 so kernels are specific to manufacturers? <-- they can be specific all the way down to a device level depending on SoC and whether they use device trees
[22:25] <mijk> anyone here run Chrubuntu?
[22:57] <hrw> mijk: what is a difference between chrubuntu and *buntu? both use same base system
[23:03] <mijk> hrw, are you Marcin?
[23:03] <hrw> yes
[23:03] <mijk> oh cool
[23:04] <hrw> my chromebook runs fedora now anyway
[23:04] <mijk> I'm just trying to get OpenGLES to work to some degree on my Chromebook
[23:04] <mijk> maybe I'm using the wrong term by saying chrubuntu
[23:04] <hrw> mijk: I do not have anything else to say that I wrote on my blog
[23:05] <mijk> okay
[23:05] <hrw> so do not waste time asking me about opengles for chromebook
[23:05] <mijk> wow, okay
[23:07] <mijk> like I don't know what your problem is, not everyone's as 1337 as you, sorry
[23:07] <hrw> have a nice day
[23:07] <mijk> fuck yourself too I guess
[23:07] <hrw> mijk: opengles for chromebook has license problems
[23:08] <hrw> as we are not quite allowed to redistribute it
[23:08] <mijk> that was easy
[23:08] <hrw> so packages cannot be created to be included in distro
[23:08] <hrw> and I do not want to keep such stuff in external repos
[23:09] <hrw> it has nothing about being leet or not
[23:09] <mijk> there, that's all you had to say rather than make me feel like a piece of shit for asking something that I am not aware of and not technical enough to figure out
[23:09] <hrw> I know that my style of writing posts is far from perfect
[23:11] <hrw> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2013/04/15/hardware-acceleration-on-chromebook/ has info about drive
[23:11] <hrw> r
[23:11] <hrw> since then another version appeared but this time I did not even bothered looking at it
[23:11] <mijk> I can't find libmali 35 so I'm screwed either way
[23:12] <hrw> mijk: https://github.com/hrw/chromebook-mali-driver may have it
[23:12] <hrw> or maybe it has 0.0.45 - I do not remember
[23:13] <hrw> nope, 45 only
[23:14] <hrw> old recovery images you need ;(
[23:14] <hrw> or refreshed kernels
[23:15] <hrw> but that's not me - I finished my ubuntu work.
[23:15] <hrw> have a nice day/night
[23:15] <hrw> 01:13 here so time to sleep


[15:46] <tsimpson|n800> the bot(s) may lag a little for a few mins, just fyi
[16:05] <Tm_T> what was the channel to poke server maintainers of canonical?
[16:08] <vish> Tm_T: #canonical-sysadmin
[16:09] <Tm_T> thanks
[16:09] <vish> yw
[21:47] <guntbert> if http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#hebrew-arabic is right, then the factoid !arabic should be changed
[21:48] <rww> I note that that page fails at #anchors. Yay ubuntu.com.
[21:52] <guntbert> well, I didn't want to point that out *here*, and the page gives no hints whom to bother with a bug report :_)
[21:52] <guntbert> so I choose to ignore the bad markup
[21:53] <rww> If I remember correctly, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content for website content (which I guess this is), https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website for more general website stuff
[21:54] <guntbert> looking
[21:58] <guntbert> rww: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/673753


[17:05] <Egbert9e9> https://www.quakenet.org/articles/102-press-release-irc-networks-under-systematic-attack-from-governments


[05:42] <MCl0vin> is there someone here that can help me with 12.04 issue that i am having with my sound
[05:42] <MCl0vin> when i plug in headphone in audio jack "laptop" sound will come both the laptop speakers and headphone
[07:55] <pitti> kenvandine: can't you run it under dbus-launch, so that you do not depend on any outside daemon
[15:06] <kelemengabor> hi pitti, got a few minutes for translations work? It is time to open Quantal translations, could you help me with that?
[22:45] <robru> test test
[22:47] <robru> empathy seems to be crashing on me a lot.


[02:29] <jrwren> https://balintreczey.hu/blog/firefox-on-ubuntu-22-04-from-deb-not-from-snap/
[02:29] <jrwren> good shit
[02:33] <mmance> Whats the deal with the one in Ubuntu's archive?
[12:31] <jrwren> it doesn't install anything, but instead installs a snap. snaps are bad
[12:57] <cmaloney> snaps are for when you want to run a data center for your applications
[13:01] <jrwren> what do you mean by that?
[13:08] <cmaloney> I mean each application is its own "machine"
[13:08] <cmaloney> with its own update schedule and dependencies and such
[13:10] <jrwren> ah, yup. got it.
[13:10] <jrwren> not to mention, you don't get much control over that schedule. don't want the new version? TOO BAD.
[13:12] <cmaloney> yeah
[13:16] <cmaloney> ttps://snapcraft.io/blog/how-to-manage-snap-updates
[13:17] <cmaloney> bah, insert an h in front if that
[13:17] <cmaloney> "you can delay for 60 days": you have recreated Wibdows update. well done.
[13:35] <Scary_Guy> lol
[13:35] <Scary_Guy> Also https://flatkill.org
[13:36] <Scary_Guy> About the only thing I actually like is appimage.
[13:56] <cmaloney> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/04/twitter-reportedly-set-to-accept-elon-musks-offer-to-buy-the-company/
[14:09] <Scary_Guy> "Changed my mind, now I don't want it" :P
[14:09] <Scary_Guy> Be hilarious, just messing with them.
[14:09] <Scary_Guy> Seriously though I wonder how many will leave/join the platform
[14:12] <cmaloney> Well, Mastodon.social has twice as many users using it now
[14:12] <cmaloney> and a lot of folks inquiring about it
[14:12] <cmaloney> so...
[14:39] <Scary_Guy> Well that's good I suppose.  At least it's a personal echo chamber instead of a walled garden.
[14:46] <cmaloney> you can make it whatever you want it to be
[14:48] <Scary_Guy> It depends on who wants to or is willing to connect with you.
[16:08] <jrwren> the best ubuntu variant shipped: https://blog.system76.com/post/682519660741148672/popos-2204-lts-has-landed?utm_source=newsletter_pop&utm_medium=email&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=popos_22.04_release_blog&mc_cid=547b59b2d4&mc_eid=47463d15eb  ;)
[16:52] <mmance> I don't run ubuntu, I was here because I read the Michigan LUG hangs out here.
[16:52] <mmance> am here
[16:52] <cmaloney> No worries.
[16:52] <cmaloney> We talk about everything and anything
[16:53] <cmaloney> There's also a MUG IRC channel, but that is pretty sparse for discussion
[16:53] <cmaloney> also a Matrix channel on gitter.im
[16:53] <mmance> I have my own matrix server, but as far as the rooms go, I prefer irc
[16:53] <cmaloney> me too
[16:53] <mmance> I use mine as a inhouse replacement for signal
[16:54] <mmance> Mostly video calls and some group video chat
[16:56] <mmance> What LUG are you a member of cmaloney?
[16:56] <cmaloney> MUG
[16:56] <cmaloney> and WFTL LUG, but that's more of an online group with Marcel Gagne
[16:57] <mmance> I went to a MUG meeting as a kid.
[16:58] <mmance> like 25 years ago
[16:58] <cmaloney> We're still online each month
[16:58] <cmaloney> heh, that's before my time
[16:58] <cmaloney> (I got involved with MUG in the 2000s)
[16:58] <mmance> I grew up in Farmington Hills, I think we met at the library.
[16:59] <cmaloney> we did
[16:59] <mmance> I was not into linux or unix at that time.  I was a MS guy.
[16:59] <cmaloney> unfortunately we no longer meet at the library because of the pandemic and because we no longer have a reliable member who lives / works in FH
[17:02] <mmance> What format/software does the meetings use?
[17:02] <cmaloney> We have a paid instance of Jitsi on 88x.vc
[17:02] <cmaloney> 8x8.vc, rather
[17:03] <cmaloney> I used to self-host Jitsi but it was a pain in the arse.
[17:13] <mmance> I was just readed what Jitsi I am using.  I am using the free one, meet.element.io
[17:14] <mmance> What was the pain from?
[17:20] <cmaloney> I would have had to upgrade from 18.04 to a newer version of Ubuntu to get the right dependencies
[17:20] <cmaloney> and getting things situated the first time was a combination of trial-and-error
[17:20] <cmaloney> in the end I'm happier paying someone to keep things up-to-date
[17:21] <cmaloney> plus I was paying Linode for a beefier box to host it
[17:21] <mmance> I just switched to hetzner.
[17:22] <mmance> I got a Ryzen 5 3600 w/ 64GB ram 512nvme $40/mo
[17:22] <mmance> That is really hard to beat
[17:22] <cmaloney> We used it for our MUG meetings as well, so there was also the added stress of keeping it running
[17:23] <cmaloney> if it's just for me then who cares, but since I was providing a service it added another layer of stress
[17:23] <cmaloney> so paying 8x8.vc for hosting made more sense to me
[17:23] <mmance> ok
[17:23] <cmaloney> I don't have to care, and I'm getting a hosted Jitsi instance.
[17:24] <mmance> I use containers for everything, so dependencies just get integrated into the container
[17:24] <mmance> I have been using docker up until now, but I am sold on jails and have been slowly migrating
[17:25] <mmance> I just recently took a few classes on zfs and I am so hooked
[17:25] <cmaloney> nice
[19:49] <Scary_Guy> I still haven no clue about ZFS, I just know Ubuntu uses it now and that's what is on my media center.  Seems to work great.  I just recently migrated from XTF4 to BTRFS.
[19:49] <Scary_Guy> Well, more like backed up and reformatted
[19:53] <greg-g> <obligatory elongated muskrat and chirping site comment>
[20:02] <cmaloney> heh
[20:02] <cmaloney> My Mastodon account has exploded
[20:02] <cmaloney> And seeing some familiar faces from G+ on dice.camp
[20:02] <cmaloney> I hope Elon chokes on his leveraged buyout
[20:04] <greg-g> it's funny, I am in season 2 of Succession where one of the main plot lines is around leveraged buy-outs
[20:05] <greg-g> It is definitely a guilty pleasure of mine
[20:05] <greg-g> all the characters are bad people almost by definition, but it's well written in that you can see little bits of humanity every now and then (not always!) for each of them.
[20:07] <greg-g> I feel like jrwren would like it ^ :)
[20:10] <Scary_Guy> I hope he buys Facebook next and destroys that.  I'd also say Netflix but they're doing a good enough job of that themselves.
[20:10] <greg-g> the high seas await!
[20:11] <Scary_Guy> I mean I usually don't speak of such things on this network.  I have other places for that.
[20:12] <jrwren> I'll have to watch Succession. I do love business.
[20:12] <jrwren> But I don't know if I like fictional shows about it.
[20:12] <Scary_Guy> Pine64 has their IRC, Matrix, and Discord all bridged together.  It's neat.
[20:12] <jrwren> more fun is just obsession over finance.yahoo.com everyday ;)
[20:13] <Scary_Guy> Whatever makes me more money.  I'm hoodrich, but I'd prefer to be actualrich.
[20:13] <jrwren> I wish I was anyrich
[20:13] <Scary_Guy> Well you're not destitute so you're doing something right.
[20:13] <jrwren> hahaha... but I just went to https://finance.yahoo.com and I'm laughing at todays charts.
[20:13] <jrwren> cu zI'm in sane.
[20:15] <Scary_Guy> I prefer https://finviz.com/map.ashx?t=sec
[20:16] <greg-g> I'm a boglehead, I try not to look at charts :)
[20:17] <Scary_Guy> https://newsmap-js.herokuapp.com I combine it with that.  One on each monitor makes for fun eyecandy.
[21:34] <jrwren> that is a cool app
[21:51] <Scary_Guy> Which one?  Or just the layout in general?  There was also WinDirStat back in the day or whatever that did a similar thing with all the files on your system.  There's a Gnome recreation of that too that I can't remember the name of.
[21:52] <Scary_Guy> Disk Usage Analyzer is the friendly name.
[21:54] <Scary_Guy> https://github.com/shundhammer/qdirstat No it was this
[22:43] <mmance> Or if you like cli ncdu


[01:13] <LinuxJunke> having issues with an geforce 9400 gt
[01:13] <LinuxJunke> anyone interested in helping
[01:31] <gomike> how do i toggle which tuner card i am using when watching live tv?
[01:32] <gomike> !help
[01:32] <Zinn> !help Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs.  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].  For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[01:33] <gregL> gomike: hit m the choose the tuner
[01:34] <gregL> s/the/then
[01:37] <gomike> i do not see a choice in there
[01:38] <rhpot1991> I think its input or something
[01:38] <rhpot1991> "switch input"
[01:39] <rhpot1991> also I believe y switches them
[01:48] <gregL> gomike: sorry i was afk...When watching hit M ,then choose change input...works for me...
[01:48] <gomike> yea it worked, the other tuner was in use so it didnt show up
[01:48] <gomike> thanks
[01:48] <gregL> np
[01:50] <gomike> what nvidia version are you using?
[01:53] <gregL> I never setup the nvidia drivers...I am still using the default nv.
[01:54] <Mez> hey, for any of those interested, I've just put up a video of Daviey doing a talk about mythbuntu @ our local lug on http://www.sourceguru.org/videos/
[01:55] <rhpot1991> Mez: empty
[01:55] <rhpot1991> or not I'm blind :)
[01:56] <gomike> would a bad video driver give me decoding errors in mythfrontend log?
[01:58] <Mez> rhpot1991: nothing under the word "video"?
[01:58] <rhpot1991> Mez: it works, I was just expecting it to be right there and not an additional click
[01:58] <rhpot1991> http://www.sourceguru.org/videos/1/ goes directly to it
[01:59] <Mez> ah, lol, I expect to have more vids there soon :D
[01:59] <rhpot1991> an hour long, I'll have to watch it later
[01:59] <Mez> lol, yeah...
[01:59] <Mez> there was a break too :D thats edited out though
[02:00] <rhpot1991> Mez: now you just need to get Daviey to release the UUPC podcasts on a reliable schedule
[02:00] <Mez> rhpot1991: they were... but they're on a break at the moment :D it was announce
[02:00] <Mez> d
[02:00]  * Mez is a mirror, so saw the bandwidth peak at roughly the same time.
[02:00] <rhpot1991> I like to bust him on them not being out constantly
[02:01] <Mez> lol
[02:55] <fmarier> hi there, i'd like to suggest a new package for Mythbuntu: the "Copy and Transcode" user job (http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=CopyAndTranscode)
[03:19] <a1fa> so my nvidia settings does not have overscan option
[03:43] <wjs_ltop> Re: problems with mythvideo crashing mythfrontend..  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/fc96bb97
[03:44] <abarbaccia> anybody notice poor signal strength with the HVR1600?
[03:45] <abarbaccia> i had a HVR1250 and swapped it out for a 1600 and am now missing locks on a lot of my channels / unable to tune
[03:46] <wjs_ltop> before you get too involved in looking at that pastebin...  I noticed it complaining about lack of swap.  I'm looking into that now.
[03:57] <wjs_ltop> hello, I'm having a problem with mythfrontend using up all available memory when trying to choose mythvideos
[03:58] <wjs_ltop> I have a pastebin of the system after one such crash.  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/fc96bb97
[03:59] <wjs_ltop> presently "top" shows it having used 1191m of virtual memory, and 533m res, and using about 40% CPU
[03:59] <foxbuntu> wjs_ltop, this when you try to play a video?
[04:01] <wjs_ltop> While it's trying to build the list of videos I think..  I choose the "Watch Videos" choice and it never comes back.
[04:01] <foxbuntu> wjs_ltop, also nice to see your using MythLog Grabber :) glad someone is
[04:01] <wjs_ltop> well, I asked earlier, and was told to use it ;-)
[04:02] <foxbuntu> i wrote the version we are using, to be fair though tgm4883 came up with the idea and first version
[04:02] <foxbuntu> anyways....
[04:02] <foxbuntu> two suggestions:
[04:02] <wjs_ltop> I am able to go into "Manage videos"
[04:03] <foxbuntu> 1) disable vsync | use nvidia-settings to change this
[04:03] <wjs_ltop> I thought I already had vsync disabled...  I'll double check.
[04:04] <foxbuntu> 2) sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then add this line to the device section: Option         "UseEvents" "True"
[04:05] <foxbuntu> then save and exit, restart gdm (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart)
[04:11] <wjs_ltop> foxbuntu: no changes
[04:12] <wjs_ltop> ^changes^change
[04:12] <foxbuntu> hmm
[04:12] <wjs_ltop> I did find one sync to VBlank that I unchecked,  All the others were already cleared.
[04:13] <foxbuntu> are you using the OpenGL painter or QT?
[04:13] <wjs_ltop> OpenGL I Think
[04:13] <wjs_ltop> that's what the logs show as well.  I'm actually leaning towards some kind of database issue here, not display.
[04:14] <wjs_ltop> I'm thinking about makeing sure I have a current backup of the mythconverg database, and then going back to a prior version
[04:15] <tgm4883> !stab foxbuntu
[04:15]  * Zinn stabs foxbuntu with a rusty spork.
[04:15] <wjs_ltop> of the videos tables
[04:15] <rhpot1991> !stab server outages
[04:15]  * Zinn stabs server outages with a rusty spork.
[04:15] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, again?!
[04:15] <foxbuntu> wjs_ltop, you might try a repair on the DB tables
[04:16] <wjs_ltop> how do I do that?
[04:16] <foxbuntu> i usually suggest phpmyadmin for first timers
[04:17] <foxbuntu> then hads will chime in and tell me how wrong I am
[04:17] <foxbuntu> ;)
[04:17] <hads> You should use the mysql command line! ;)
[04:17] <foxbuntu> there he is
[04:18] <hads> Na, use whatever
[04:19] <foxbuntu> wjs_ltop, sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[04:19] <foxbuntu> then http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[04:19] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: from before
[04:19] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, ah
[04:25] <wjs_ltop> I did a repair, then I did an optimize on all tables in the mythconverg database.
[04:26] <wjs_ltop> so far, it doesn't seem to have made a difference.  It's at 725M virtual, 750M now
[06:39] <fpsdavid> hi, i just switched out a ATI HD3650 from a nvidia 6600 and now i'm having trouble getting mythtv to go back to 1920x1080. the highest it'll let me pick is 1680x1050 and then 1920x1200
[07:41] <aniiena> I have some questions about setting up a PVR, anyone around?
[08:46] <bsusa> hello
[08:47] <bsusa> is their a way of adjusting a delay for when a program should run at startup, or to run when the wireless connection is active?
[08:47] <bsusa> or is their a way to pick what should run first on startup?
[08:47] <bsusa> what i want to do is have my wireless card connected before it runs the MythTv Frontend
[09:03] <bsusa> is it possible to write a script to delay a program from running on start up for like 5 seconds or so?
[09:04] <hads> If you want a hack you could write a script to start the program.
[09:05] <hads> e.g. sleep 5 && mythfrontend
[09:15] <bsusa> im not that good with scripts could you give me an example please in this situation, or would i add that on the end of the launcher
[09:37] <cann> iam running 8.04 backened and a 8.10 diskless frontend, everything works like a charm but when i edit fstab to add my shares on the backend, the entry dont remain in fstab after reboot. same thing if i change permisions on /dev/input/js0. surely i must have missed something but iam beating my head against a wall here =)
[09:38] <cann> anyone got any tips ?
[09:38] <bsusa> nvm hads i got it working
[09:47] <bsusa> thanks
[09:47] <bsusa> bye
[10:11] <Northy_ie> Hi there! I've just finished installing mythbuntu 8.10 but am unable to scan for channels in the setup (I hear my DVB-S card clicking, by the scan window does not come up). In the previous versions, you could check /var/log/messages but that logging seems to have moved. I checked all the files in /var/log/mythtv as well, nothing in there. Does anyone know where I could see the setup log files?
[14:30] <wjs_ltop> Hello, I'm having a problem with one of my front ends when I try to go into MythVideo.  I tried the FrontEnd on the Backend, and it worked ok.
[14:31] <wjs_ltop> The pastebin from yesterday is http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/fc96bb97
[14:31] <wjs_ltop> I have disabled vsync in nvidia-settings, and set UseEvents to true in xorg.conf
[14:32] <wjs_ltop> I have done a repair and optimize on all the tables in the database.
[14:33] <wjs_ltop> I have verified that the directory is mounted on the frontend in question, and I can play videos from a command line.
[14:33] <wjs_ltop> I think I'm using the OpenGL painter.
[14:34] <wjs_ltop> I am not at home presently, so while I have access via ssh to the box, I do not have console access.
[14:47] <NeoMatrixJR> Can anyone help me figure out why my lirc module won't load/why the port is in use?  "lirc_it87: i/o port 0x0310 already in use."
[17:12] <gomike> can someone help me with what this means http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d17cf2aeb
[17:12] <gomike> i get it when i try to watch some channels
[19:11] <Louis> hello!  i keep running into a weird problem during my installation of mythbuntu 8.10.  The installation completes, but when i goto run mythtv-backend setup, I get an error which says it cannot connect to the database
[19:11] <Louis> and mythfilldatabase doesn't work either...
[19:12] <Louis> is everybody AFK?
[19:16] <fpsdavid> hi, i just switched out a ATI HD3650 from a nvidia 6600 and now i'm having trouble getting mythtv to go back to 1920x1080. the highest it'll let me pick is 1680x1050 and then 1920x1200
[19:17] <Louis> fpsdavid:  not that i know very much, but have you tried using the proprietary drivers?
[19:18] <fpsdavid> yeah
[19:18] <Louis> yikes... then i got no more advice lol sorry
[19:18] <fpsdavid> lol np
[19:26] <bogus-> can you select the aspect ratio?
[19:28] <rhpot1991> !mysql | Louis
[19:28] <Zinn> Louis: If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[19:28] <Louis> rhpot1991:  thanks!  that just made me think of something
[19:29] <Louis> during the installation, i opted not to define a mysql root password... should i have done that?
[19:30] <rhpot1991> doesn't matter, just when it asks later make sure you tell it that there is no password
[19:30] <rhpot1991> also there is normally a lot of confusion between mysql root and sudo passwords when it asks you (wording is funny I think)
[19:30] <Louis> rhpot1991:  okay thanks a bunch.  and just to be clear, that's not insecure if i have a combined frontend/backend behind a router right?
[19:31] <Louis> yeah i figured as much.  i just made both passwords the same t to eliminate the confusion
[19:33] <rhpot1991> Louis: not really, as thats local access only
[19:33] <rhpot1991> if someone hacked in then they could hit it, but you have bigger issues then :)
[19:33] <Louis> haha yes clearly.  thanks again!  i'll go try that right nwo
[20:22] <Louis> I'm trying to add mythbuntu to an existing xubuntu installation, but the link at www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu doesn't work on that machine... it seems to work on my windows firefox (i get a protocol not supported - apt) ... what gives and what can i do?
[20:25] <Louis> is there a metapackage?
[20:52] <Louis> where are the default music, video and picture directories in mythtv?
[20:53] <rhpot1991> Louis: /var/lib/mythtv/
[20:54] <Louis> rhpot1991:  thanks!  and btw your advice worked beautifully for mysql.  Thanks a million
[20:55] <rhpot1991> np Louis
[21:46] <Louis> is it possible to get mythbuntu to display the pictures from mythgallery when the computer is idle for a certain amount of time?
[21:48] <superm1> Louis, i think the only thing you can do is set the gnome screensaver to show pictures from that directory
[21:48] <superm1> not nearly as cool, but it would be functional
[21:51] <Louis> superm1:  thanks!  how would i go about doing that?
[21:51] <Louis> superm1:  i'm in xfce, and i can get to the screen saver options, but i don't see where i can define the directory (/var/lib/mythtv/ etc...)
[21:52] <superm1> Louis, yeah a lot of gnome tools seem to not expose all the useful options
[21:52] <superm1> you might have to look in gconf-editor
[21:53] <Louis> okay i'll look there. thank you!
[21:53] <superm1> no prob, good luck
[21:56] <rhpot1991> superm1: is there still an issue where that will kick in after x minutes if you are watching a show?
[21:56] <superm1> rhpot1991, not as far as i'm aware.  i use it (with the 'blank') screensaver without issues
[21:57] <superm1> default install in terms of screensaver stuff
[21:57] <rhpot1991> last I messed with it I had to disable them because that happened, but that was quite a few releases ago
[21:57] <superm1> oh yeah that happened with 7.04
[21:57] <rhpot1991> IIRC my TV's go to sleep if there is no movement anyways
[21:58] <rhpot1991> I should check and see if mine are still disabled or what, cause I've been upgrading ever since
[21:59] <Louis> superm1:  just a question... will the screensaver kick in while i'm watching live tv?
[21:59] <Louis> or is myth smart?
[21:59] <rhpot1991> Louis: thats what we were just discussing, you should be fine
[21:59] <superm1> Louis, that's what rhpot1991 and i were just talking of.  it shouldn't
[22:00] <Louis> ooh lol. i should read
[22:00] <Louis> haha wow i'm dumb.  thanks for the info though
[22:05] <Louis> Just another quick question... would it work if i put a symlink from ~/Photos to /var/lib/mythtv/pictures?
[22:08] <superm1> yeah probably
[22:09] <superm1> it might be ~/Pictures it looks for
[22:09] <superm1> whichever it is, if you symlink that'll probably do the trick
[22:09] <Louis> aah that's the problem!
[22:09] <Louis> i did ~/Photos...
[22:10] <Louis> WIN
[22:10] <Louis> thanks much, superm1
[22:10] <Louis> and this *should* kick in when myth is idle on the menu screen?
[22:20] <afm> afternoon all
[22:20] <afm> I upgraded to trunk today, and it looks as if mytharchive didn't quite make it.  I get mytharchive (0.22.2009011-1) binary version does not match libraries (0.22.20090120-1)  when attempting to run the frontend
[22:36] <superm1> afm, last week's mythplugins failed to build.  it should be fixed this friday
[22:36] <afm> does the svn build work?
[22:37] <superm1> afm, the upstream build works, but they made some changes to the plugins (got rid of mythcontrols and mythphone) so the packaging has to be manually adjusted
[22:37] <superm1> afm, for now just remove the plugins that are installed
[22:37] <superm1> you can reinstall them again next week
[22:38] <afm> i seem to have more than that broken....thanks for the info
[22:39] <afm> going for install 37 or something...hehe...trying for the life of me to get my hdpvr working in any fashion
[22:39] <afm> i've gotten a stream off it in vlc once...
[22:39] <afm> heh
[22:40] <afm> trunk is what i need correct?  not the 0.21-fixes
[22:41] <afm> install mythbuntu, obtain al updates... and follow this http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds ?  plus the driver stuff which i'm not having issues with....
[22:43] <OpenMedia> superm1: Hows things??? Still at Dell?
[22:49] <walker_> hello. I've got a mythbuntu-8.10 server setup with mythweb, but i can't get it to show the coverart on web... i've tried linking and permissions, anyone got a clue?
[23:07] <BLZ> the movie posters don't seem to work in mythvideo... i tried changing the directory to which they are saved (now /var/lib/mythtv/posters) because t he original did not seem to exist, but still nothing.  The rest of the metadata fetches perfectly.
[23:08] <BLZ> anybody know what's wrong?
[23:11] <BLZ> i should add that the myth interface claims to be fetching the poster every time
[23:12] <MythbuntuGuest46> hello is here an the server a channel for sharpdevelop?
[23:12] <MythbuntuGuest46> on
[23:12] <tgm4883> ?
[23:12] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest46, sharpdevelop?
[23:12] <BLZ> scratch that ... permissions problem. fixed
[23:13] <stiev3> BLZ, has to do with imdb's effort to stop people from scraping their site and/or them changing their site's layout
[23:13] <MythbuntuGuest46> yes
[23:13] <BLZ> stiev3:  orly?
[23:13] <BLZ> that's evil...
[23:13] <MythbuntuGuest46> here in java the channels isnt sorted. so i cant find it :-)
[23:13] <tgm4883> BLZ, are you running 9.04?
[23:13] <BLZ> tgm4883:  no 8.10
[23:13] <BLZ> i didn't realize 9.04 was stable...
[23:14] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest46, well you shouldn't be trying to access other channels like that through the mythbuntu website
[23:14] <tgm4883> BLZ, it's not, but that isn't the default dir for posters for pre-9.04
[23:15] <MythbuntuGuest46> isnt that ok?
[23:15] <MythbuntuGuest46> than sorry
[23:15] <BLZ> tgm4883:  hmmm that might have something to do with it then.  I looked for that directory and it didn't exist...  I'm running xubuntu 8.10 with the latest version of myth (from the repos) on top
[23:15] <tgm4883> hmm
[23:15] <BLZ> anyway it seems to be working now that i changed the permissions of /var/lib/mythtv/posters (of my own creation) to 777
[23:15] <BLZ> tgm4883:  i can't imagine that having serious security repercussions
[23:16] <tgm4883> BLZ, well it should be 775 and owned by mythtv:mythtv
[23:16] <tgm4883> thats how it will be in 9.04
[23:16] <tgm4883> and how the rest of the mythtv dir's are
[23:16] <BLZ> aah i'll have to chown then...
[23:16] <MythbuntuGuest46> so than i went away, bye
[23:16] <BLZ> it's owned by my user "louis" who is part of the mythtv group
[23:17] <tgm4883> also, there is a tmdb.pl, which replaces imdb.pl
[23:17] <tgm4883> although themoviedb.org isn't as full as imdb.org
[23:17] <BLZ> tgm4883:     yeah so what's this you were saying about imdb getting angry?
[23:18] <tgm4883> I didn't say imdb was getting angry
[23:18] <stiev3> not angry just they have it stated that they're not open to screen scraping/automated apps somewhere on their site
[23:18] <tgm4883> but it is against their ToS to scrape their site, and they keep changing their site to break it
[23:18] <tgm4883> thats why themoviedb.org was born
[23:18] <BLZ> tgm4883:  i see
[23:18] <BLZ> i might switch at some point then
[23:19] <BLZ> ugh. what's the syntax again for chown?  sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /path/to/directory ?
[23:19] <tgm4883> yep
[23:19] <BLZ> thanks
[23:20] <BLZ> and the second mythtv after the colon is group, correct?
[23:20] <tgm4883> right
[23:21] <BLZ> let's hope this works
[23:21] <BLZ> i don't see why it wouldn't
[23:21] <tgm4883> as long as your user is in the group, you should be fine
[23:21] <BLZ> is that going to cause any problems when i upgrade to 9.04?  or does it expect to find my posters in /home/mythtv
[23:21] <BLZ> right. i figured i might as well do it right though
[23:23] <tgm4883> won't be a problem
[23:24] <tgm4883> mythvideo checks the db for the location, upgrades shouldn't mess with the db other than upgrading the schema
[23:24] <BLZ> okay cool. last question before i leave you alone =)   Do you happen to know how i can configure the server to shuttdown when i press the main power button/
[23:24] <BLZ> ?
[23:25] <tgm4883> no
[23:25] <tgm4883> you could do it from the frontend though
[23:25] <BLZ> i'm confused. i'm running a combined server/frontend
[23:26] <tgm4883> you want to shut the whole system off right?
[23:26] <BLZ> yeah
[23:26] <BLZ> just by pushing the power button
[23:27] <tgm4883> ok, well I don't know how to do it via just the power button, but you can do it in the frontend if you keep backing out of the menus until you reach the part where it asks if you want to quit the frontend or not
[23:27] <tgm4883> there is a setting you can set to make it ask you if you want to quit, shutdown, or not
[23:27] <Chom> 1st question, if i may, what should i install on a seperate drive for mythbuntu?
[23:28] <BLZ> tgm4883:  that  not bad. do you remember where the setting is?
[23:28] <BLZ> Chom:  you mean as far as storage or as far as /, /home, etc?
[23:29] <Chom> to just boot to a linux os
[23:29] <tgm4883> yea, in the frontend, go to Util/setup > setup > general, go to the misc screen and change the "customise exit menu options:" from autodetect to something else
[23:29] <Chom> i want to try and install mythtv and use fta stuff
[23:29] <BLZ> Chom:  what exactly do you want to do?
[23:29] <BLZ> tgm4883:  awesome. thank you so much
[23:30] <tgm4883> np
[23:30] <Chom> i want to have 2 seperate os's xp and linux
[23:30] <Chom> and learn some linux
[23:30] <BLZ> oh okay. you might not want to start with mythbuntu or mythtv then
[23:30] <BLZ> i'd start with regular ubuntu
[23:30] <BLZ> and install xp first
[23:31] <BLZ> and then install ubuntu on top, and the bootloader (grub) will automatically configure to let you select your os on startup
[23:31] <BLZ> but you should be asking all of this in #ubuntu
[23:32] <Chom> well i installed mythbuntu-8.10 and have a duel boot, but it hangs while starting the mythbuntu
[23:33] <Chom> i think its b/c i have a pci-e card for video and wants to use my onboard video
[23:33] <Chom> (read some info in the forum)
[23:33] <Chom> but i cant seem to understand much from this point
[23:34] <BLZ> Chom:  well, you'll still probably have better luck for general (read: non-mythtv-specific) issues in #ubuntu
[23:34] <BLZ> but if your card has proprietary drivers, i'd try enabling them... have you tried that?
[23:35] <BLZ> what kind of card are you running?
[23:37] <Chom> nv 8600 gt
[23:38] <BLZ> Chom:  nVidia?
[23:38] <BLZ> i'd try using envy-ng even though it's not officially supported
[23:38] <BLZ> it's never failed me
[23:38] <Chom> ya
[23:38] <Chom> what is envy-ng ?
[23:39] <BLZ> look it up on google.  it automatically compiles the latest drivers from source and installs them
[23:39] <Chom> kool. company is over now, i gotta go
[23:39] <Chom> i will be back
[23:39] <Chom> tx
[23:39] <BLZ> sure. take care
[23:39] <BLZ> no problem
[23:40] <Mez> http://www.sourceguru.org/videos/1/ - Daviey doing a talk on Mythbuntu
[23:41] <BLZ> ?


 There is also vscodium
[08:14] <RatPunk> hola
[09:46] <apt-ghetto> bug 1873008 was triaged as High and the milestone ubuntu-20.04 was added.
[16:02] <glat-agent> https://web.archive.org/web/20190819143515/wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Activation
[16:02] <glat-agent> Where to get it?
[16:02] <glat-agent> Is there Ubuntu package?
[17:46] <ele_> hilfe
[17:47] <ele_> wos isch des fir a kacxk
[17:50] <diogenes_> !de
[22:51] <santimir[m]> been trying to push a change to phabricator but seems you need permissions?
[22:52] <kc2bez> santimir[m]: That is probably better for the -devel channel
[22:53] <santimir[m]> alright