[21:33] <jrib> hello google-land, the answer to my question about how to control the LEDs on my keyboard while inside X from a terminal is to use xset led (see « man xset »).  Note you can only control scroll lock by default, but you can configure X to allow more with the XLeds option
[21:33] <drag0nius> i just cant belive it didnt get solved yet
[21:34] <powerplay> soundray: oh ok cause unfortunately its not executing it i dont know why :( right now what i have done is included "source ~/.bashrc" is my bash_profile. i dont know if thats the right way to go about it but it works
[21:34] <Multbrelch> there are also some other things which are not yet solved although they are important, also with respect to Compiz
[21:34] <kanna> say i have a group with gid 200 and two users in it 101 and 102.If the fsuid is 101,will access to gid 200's files be permitted?
[21:34] <powerplay> soundray: but i would rather have it execute bashrc by default like its supposed to
[21:34] <soundray> powerplay: it's a workaround (but it shouldn't be necessary)
[21:35] <lidar> powerplay, did you edit that file with root permissions by chance ? does your user account own it ?
[21:35] <jrib> kanna: "fsuid"?
[21:35] <soundray> powerplay: have you tried logging in as a different user and see if it behaves normally then?
[21:35] <drag0nius> i'd really love to move from windows to ubuntu, but always something isnt working
[21:35] <powerplay> soundray: no i am the only user on my system. should i just login as guest and give it a shot?
[21:35] <Multbrelch> I moved 2 years ago and: I never come back, hehe
[21:35] <Sokel> drag0nius: Like what.
[21:35] <kanna> jrib:the one u do by setfsuid function
[21:35] <drag0nius> like my video card
[21:36] <powerplay> lidar: no im about to try that
[21:36] <bekks> drag0nius: Which one is it exactly?
[21:36] <soundray> powerplay: that's a possibility. But see what lidar said
[21:36] <jrib> kanna: it would depend on the permissions of the file
[21:36] <drag0nius> i've either gtx 280 r gtx 560 ti and running 2 separate screens is absolute requirement
[21:37] <bekks> drag0nius: Two screens or two displays?
[21:37] <drag0nius> two monitors, whatever you call it
[21:38] <kanna> jrib:by default shudnt it be like  members in the group could access group directory?
[21:38] <jrib> kanna: I don't understand what you just said
[21:39] <powerplay> lidar: and just another observation, when i do "ls" after the running "sudo su" then it works....
[21:39] <kanna> If there is a group container,by default will the memners in the group get access to this directory or not?
[21:40] <zykotick9> powerplay: don't use "sudo su" unless you want to break your user account...
[21:40] <soundray> powerplay: sudo -i is recommended over sudo su
[21:40] <powerplay> zykotick9: why will it break the account?
[21:40] <soundray> powerplay: this may well be what messed up your .bashrc
[21:40] <zykotick9> powerplay: permission in you home dir will get messed up
[21:40] <powerplay> zykotick9: oh ok thanks
[21:41] <soundray> powerplay: can you do a 'ls -l ~/.bashrc' and paste the results?
[21:41] <jrib> kanna: it depends on the permissions... The default umask is 222, so I suppose members of the group will have read and execute permissions by default
[21:41] <kanna> ok thanks
[21:42] <powerplay> soundray: -rw-r--r-- 1 miker miker 413 Aug 28 14:44 /home/miker/.bashrc
[21:42] <soundray> powerplay: okay, that looks fine
[21:42] <lidar> powerplay, after you run sudo su you become root .. so you edited roots .bashrc
[21:43] <ikonia> you should not need to edit roots .bashrc
[21:43] <ikonia> and you don't need to sudo su to become root or edit that
[21:43] <powerplay> lidar: i see i have never edited bashrc
[21:43] <ikonia> (but you should not need to edit it anyway)
[21:43] <ikonia> powerplay: there is no reason to edit roots .bashrc as the root user is locked in ubuntu and therefore not used
[21:43] <powerplay> lidar: i am just trying to get it loaded like its suppose to
[21:43] <ikonia> powerplay: I strongly suggest you do not follow what lidar has suggested
[21:44] <powerplay> ikonia: ok so basically to change permissions of my bashrc?
[21:44] <zykotick9> ikonia: i believe lidar was explaining what powerplay might have already done...
[21:44] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice <IP_ADDRESS>. I just noticed recently that the spellcheck no longer works in LO3, but it works in other places like this chat and the intranet. How do I fix this?
[21:44] <ikonia> powerplay: what do you want to change he permissions to ?
[21:44] <lidar> ikonia, powerplay im not suggesting he do it .. im pointing out the fact that he already did
[21:44] <ikonia> lidar: I see, thank you
[21:45] <powerplay> lidar: so i should try the chmod command u suggested?
[21:45] <soundray> ikonia: the sudo thing is a sideshow. The problem is that $HOME/.bashrc does not get sourced in the bash inside a newly opened terminal
[21:45] <ikonia> soundray: ok, great now we have a real problem
[21:45] <soundray> ikonia: we checked the permissions on ~/.bashrc -- those are okay (powerplay)
[21:46] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice <IP_ADDRESS>. I just noticed recently that the spellcheck no longer works in LO3, but it works in other places like this chat and the intranet. How do I fix this?
[21:46] <ikonia> soundray: has the .bash_profile been changed to not source it ?
[21:46] <powerplay> soundray: so is this a bug since the man pages suggests that bashrc is suppose to get loaded
[21:46]  * jrib guesses "run as login shell" is checked
[21:47] <ikonia> I don't think it's a bug
[21:47] <ikonia> either the bash_profile has been changed or it's not a login shell as jrib suggests
[21:47] <powerplay> ikonia: no the only thing i did in bash_profile is include the source command so it gets sourced. i just did it as a workaround
[21:47] <ikonia> powerplay: you don't need to include the source command
[21:47] <soundray> ikonia: Ubuntu doesn't create .bash_profile in the user's home by default now, does it?
[21:47] <ikonia> powerplay: there should be an if statement that will source it
[21:47] <powerplay> soundray: nope i had to create it
[21:47] <ikonia> soundray: it's on my machine
[21:47] <jrib> ikonia, soundray: it's ~/.profile now
[21:48] <ikonia> ahh there we go, it's gone back to the old bourne standard.....for no reason
[21:48] <ikonia> so .profile it is
[21:48] <ikonia> thank you jrib
[21:48] <soundray> ikonia: you've probably installed an older version and updated
[21:48] <soundray> jrib: okay, thanks
[21:48] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: hi
[21:48] <jrib> powerplay: how are you sure that your .bashrc isn't being sourced?
[21:48] <kanna> will creating a new group ,create a new directory?
[21:48] <jrib> kanna: no, probably not
[21:48] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice <IP_ADDRESS>. I just noticed recently that the spellcheck no longer works in LO3, but it works in other places like this chat and the intranet. How do I fix this?
[21:49] <powerplay> jrib: because the "ls" command results are not color coded, but once i run "source .bashrc" then they are
[21:49] <powerplay> jrib: which means i have to manually source it for it to work
[21:49] <dr_willis> powerplay:  check that your .profile is sourceing .bashrc at the end.
[21:49] <dr_willis> powerplay:  or .bash_login
[21:49] <Multbrelch> gordonjcp, u saw my message?
[21:49] <jrib> powerplay: it could (unlikely) mean that it runs and then something unsets your color settings
[21:49] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: I saw you highlighted me, I didn't see your message
[21:50] <Multbrelch> gordonjcp, I could read the CD on an other computer, so it is the CD ROM device which does not well work with old CDs
[21:50] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: cool
[21:50] <Multbrelch> on my first computer
[21:50] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: and you read it off okay?
[21:50] <powerplay> dr_willis: my .profile does have a if statement for sourcing bashrc
[21:50] <Multbrelch> hehe, a CD from 1999
[21:50] <gordonjcp> Multbrelch: maybe the lens needs cleaned
[21:50] <Multbrelch> may be
[21:51] <Multbrelch> I got all data
[21:51] <soundray> powerplay: I'd suggest checking the permissions and ownership on ~/.profile next with ls -l
[21:51] <powerplay> jrib: ya maybe bit u havent really done any tweaks in my bash
[21:51] <powerplay> soundray: here it is "-rw-r--r-- "
[21:51] <soundray> powerplay: okay, and the ownership?
[21:51] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice <IP_ADDRESS> and it doesn't spell check anything. But spell checker works in other programmes and the intranet.
[21:52] <powerplay> soundray: what do u mean by owneshipo?
[21:52] <soundray> powerplay: the owner and group of the file. Should be "miker miker"
[21:52] <powerplay> soundray: yup
[21:52] <dr_willis> powerplay:  toss in some echo 'this is .profile' or other lines in the varioys configs to see whats getting ran when and where.
[21:52] <jrib> powerplay: it really is better imo to just run the command and pastebin the output including the command.  A lot of times that lets one catch small details one wasn't even looking for
[21:53] <soundray> jrib: what command do you want powerplay to run?
[21:54] <jrib> soundray: nothing in particular.  I was just suggesting it for the future. If he had just pastebinned the « ls -l ~/.bashrc », you wouldn't have had to ask for the ownership info again (and we could have also double checked he's checking the right file)
[21:54] <dr_willis>  ls -l .profile .bashrc
[21:54] <soundray> jrib: got you
[21:55] <powerplay> jrib: alright
[21:56] <powerplay> dr_willis: -rw-r--r-- 1 miker miker 3413 Aug 28 14:44 .bashrc
[21:56] <powerplay> -rw-r--r-- 1 miker miker 674 Aug 28 14:17 .profile
[21:57] <jarson> why the hell would i need to hold control to click using a trackpad on a toshiba lappy, and how to make it act normally
[21:58] <powerplay> are you guys sure its a non login shell? cause man page states "       When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-interactive shell with the --login option, it first reads and  exe‐
[21:58] <powerplay>        cutes  commands  from  the  file  /etc/profile,  if  that  file  exists.   After  reading  that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile,
[21:58] <powerplay>        ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable.   The
[21:58] <powerplay>        --noprofile option may be used when the shell is started to inhibit this behavior."
[21:58] <powerplay> "
[21:58] <FloodBot1> powerplay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:59] <jrib> powerplay: it isn't a login shell by default (well last time I checked anyway) when you open a new terminal, but there is an option in the configuration.  It shouldn't matter anyway though because the default profile sources bashrc
[22:00] <drag0nius> would it be possible to create symbolic link between ntfs and fat3?
[22:00] <jrib> drag0nius: I don't think either of those filesystems support symlinks, do they?
[22:00] <powerplay> jrib: alrighty someone suggested to me that the problem is that i dont have a profile in the first place. could that be the problem?
[22:00] <Sokel> drag0nius and jrib NTFS supports symlinks.
[22:01] <drag0nius> i've a bit mishmashed steam on windows
[22:01] <drag0nius> like commons folder on one drive, then few games on another linked with those
[22:01] <jrib> Sokel: cool.  Can you create them with just ln -s?
[22:01] <Sokel> jrib: Yes.
[22:02] <powerplay> jrib: also when i run "ls --color" i do get the color coded results
[22:02] <jrib> drag0nius: guess you can then :)
[22:02] <spiouki> hey I can't connect ubuntu 12.04 to win7 need help
[22:02] <drag0nius> what you mean?
[22:02] <spiouki> with samba ofcoarse
[22:02] <Sokel> jrib and drag0nius: Not only does NTFS support symbolic links between a linux file system and itself, windows has it's own method of symbolic linking as well.
[22:02] <Sokel> drag0nius: Just using ln -s source destination
[22:03] <drag0nius> spiuki you create samba share on same workgroup
[22:03] <drag0nius> then it should plain work
[22:03] <drag0nius> how can i get whole path on nautilus?
[22:03] <drag0nius> of current folder
[22:03] <jrib> powerplay: I'm confused when you say you don't have a profile.  Why do you say that?
[22:03] <jrib> drag0nius: try ctrl-l (maybe)
[22:04] <spiouki> I installed samba and made a shared folder and i entered the password for windows but nothing happend
[22:04] <spiouki> where in windows should i look for the file i shared in ubuntu?
[22:04] <soundray> powerplay: you have a ~/.profile -- the ls -l you did earlier shows that it has 674 characters
[22:05] <powerplay> jrib: the person suggested to run this command for the fix: "sudo cd /root/.profile $HOME; sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.profile"
[22:06] <jrib> powerplay: diff -Nurp ~/.profile /etc/skel/.profile
[22:06] <Meris> I could use the Japanese imput method editor under ibus, but some update broke it. As a result of this, The Keyboard Input Methods can not be found any more. All the required packages have been installed afaik. There is an icon of a keyboard in the top-right bar, but right clicking on options in the context menu has no effect whatsoever.
[22:06] <spiouki> where in win 7 can i find the file which i shared in ubuntu?
[22:07] <powerplay> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174745/
[22:08] <dr_willis> powerplay:  the command was 'cp' not 'cd'
[22:08] <dr_willis> powerplay:  do a 'cat .profile' and see if you do in fact have a .profile
[22:08] <jrib> powerplay: « cp /etc/skel/.profile ~ » will give you the default .profile, but I doubt it will affect your issue
[22:09] <soundray> dr_willis: but we know that already from the ls -l
[22:09] <freerobby> Can anybody explain why this works in a shell, but when the torquebox user runs a process via init.d, ulimit -n returns 1024 ? https://gist.github.com/7fff364c0bca20c27aa5
[22:09] <powerplay> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174747/
[22:10] <jrib> powerplay: pastebin your .bashrc
[22:10] <dr_willis> soundray:  it could be empty
[22:10] <jrib> soundray knows its size (/me waits for dr_willis to say it could be whitespace)
[22:10] <freerobby> If nothing else I would expect an arbitrary process to derive from the system limit, which is 8192 (soft)
[22:10] <soundray> dr_willis: then it wouldn't show as having 674 characters, and it wouldn't diff with the one in /etc/skel/ like it has
[22:11] <powerplay> jrib: heres my bashrc http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174749/
[22:11] <dr_willis> I think its time to drop back to the original problem.
[22:11] <drag0nius> how can i cahnge name in that ln -s?
[22:11] <drag0nius> i've different real folder name than desired link
[22:11] <Jay-> Anyone mind if I ask some foolish new user questions? Haven't used Linux outside of servers :|
[22:12] <dr_willis> Jay-:  go for it.. theres also the Ubuntu manual
[22:12] <dr_willis> !manual
[22:12] <Jay-> Ah thanks. But I wanted to ask some things about the interface, and suggestions for certain alternatives to Windows software
[22:12] <drag0nius> nvm got it
[22:13] <jrib> drag0nius: open a new terminal.  Do you use gnome-terminal?  What's the output of « alias ls »?
[22:13] <dr_willis> Top Unity Tip = press and hold the super (windows) key - to see a list of key shortcuts. ;)
[22:13] <Jay-> Is there any way to have a similar interface to Windows by having a horizontal taskbar at the bottom of the screen?
[22:14] <dr_willis> Jay-:  theres dozens of alternative desktops and interfaces
[22:14] <soundray> jrib: powerplay is having the terminal problem
[22:14] <Sokel> Jay-: Yes. Do not use unity. Problem solved.
[22:14] <jrib> soundray: thanks
[22:14] <dr_willis> Jay-:  lubuntu is  very similer to the old windows 95 look.
[22:14] <jrib> powerplay: open a new terminal.  Do you use gnome-terminal?  What's the output of « alias ls »?
[22:15] <dr_willis> Jay-:  then theres the gnome fallback mode.
[22:15] <dr_willis> Jay-:  or just use one of the many docks to add a panel to the bottom to do whatever you want.
[22:15] <Jay-> Okay, two other questions. I read some lists of IRC client recommendations, but I wanted to hear an opinion from users in here.
[22:15] <powerplay> jrib: how do i figure out if i use gnome terminal? running alias ls give me "not found"
[22:16] <dr_willis> Jay-:  totally depends on your needs.. Xchat for gui and weechat for console/ssh here normally
[22:16] <Jay-> Is there anything minimalist that doesn't sacrifice important function, with clean interface?
[22:16] <jrib> powerplay: heh, sorry I should learn to test things in bash instead of zsh
[22:16] <Ben64> dr_willis: is it possible to use gnome2 and gnome-panel in 12.04?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  gnome-panel yes
[22:16] <powerplay> jrib: no worries
[22:16] <dr_willis> Ben64:  gnome2 is dead - the fallback mode is close.. but i belive its got plans on getting phased out also.
[22:17] <Ben64> what about the other versions of it? Can't recall the name but some people have picked up Gnome2 and are updating it still
[22:17] <jrib> powerplay: run gnome-terminal in your current terminal and see if it looks the same :P
[22:17] <Meris> Ben64, you probably mean cinnamon
[22:17] <dr_willis> Ben64:  not supported by ubuntu.
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  you're in the denial phase, cannot accept gnome2 is dead
[22:18] <dr_willis> Gnome 2 is dead.. time to move on.
[22:18] <Ben64> gnome3 doesn't work for me
[22:18] <piezo> does anybody know if there is a gui for some kind of qos configuration? (i want to mangle nat packets aswell as local packets)
[22:18] <piezo> 3
[22:18] <powerplay> jrib: yup it basically open up another terminal
[22:18] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice <IP_ADDRESS> and it doesn't spell check anymore, but spell check works on other programmes and the intranet. Why?
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  you're living in the past, gnome2 is dead
[22:18] <jrib> powerplay: ok, in that new terminal where you ran "alias ls", what is the output of: ps -ef | grep $$
[22:19] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: don't care if i'm in the past. gnome2 works, gnome3 doesn't
[22:19] <powerplay> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174769/
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  then try to make it work, like it does for the rest of us, with our help, if needed
[22:21] <Ben64> i tried 12.04 and gnome3 for a week, asking questions here, no answers. So I gave up and went back to 10.04. It shouldn't take that much effort to get a functional system
[22:21] <lidar> Ben64, lots of alternatives out there
[22:21] <Meris> Ben64, try XFCE or LXDE
[22:21] <Ben64> They don't have the panel plugins I want
[22:21] <dr_willis> details would help...
[22:21] <jrib> powerplay: you should try dr_willis's idea of adding some echo or touch lines into your .profile and .bashrc
[22:22] <lidar> Ben64, i installed fluxbox for exapmple but as Meris sais xfce and lxde are nice
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  gnome3 isnt what you want, lxde isnt what you want, xfce isnt what you want
[22:22] <dr_willis> Windows 1.0!
[22:22] <Ben64> CPU temp, GPU temp, CPU usage graph, RAM usage graph
[22:22] <Spectacle_K> Can ANYONE help/
[22:22] <Meris> Ben64, LXDE uses OpenBox which is very similar to FluxBox
[22:22] <Ben64> apparently only gnome-panel can do those 4 things
[22:22] <lidar> Ben64, xfce has all of that
[22:22] <powerplay> jrib: once i add the echo lines i just open and close my terminal?
[22:22] <jrib> powerplay: you can just open a new one from the menu
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  you can install gnome-panel in gnome3
[22:23] <jrib> powerplay: remember you want something like "echo profile executed" and "echo bashrc executed"
[22:23] <powerplay> jrib: ok so the syntax is just....echo "blah"
[22:23] <jrib> powerplay: yep
[22:23] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: the theming instantly broke when I did that
[22:23] <powerplay> jrib: ok ill give it a try
[22:23] <lidar> Ben64, you can also run gkrellm .. soo many options out there
[22:23] <Meris> Ben64, gkrellm is modular, very versatile
[22:24] <Mavrik> hmm, does anyone know a reason why "laptop-mode-tools" aren't installed by default? any bad side-effects?
[22:24] <dr_willis> gkrellm is also old skool. :) been around for ages.
[22:24] <drag0nius> is there way to further reduce volume of some device?
[22:24] <drag0nius> even on minimum its like 3 times too loud
[22:25] <jrib> drag0nius: tried pavucontrol and alsamixer?
[22:25] <brenden1> #macosx
[22:25] <soundray> powerplay: I'm off. Hope you can track down the problem -- good luck
[22:25] <exutux> Mavrik: simply because it is an optional package
[22:26] <lidar> Mavrik, manually install it ? it should work fine
[22:26] <powerplay> soundray: ok thank you for all your help and efforts
[22:26] <timespliter> Hi. Does anyone here know how to show the user in channel list on Xchat for Ubuntu Unity?
[22:26] <Spectacle_K> Can SOMEONE please help me with my LibreOffice issue?
[22:26] <Mavrik> lidar, exutux, yeah, I was just wondering what was the reason for removal in 10.04+
[22:26] <jrib> !ask | Spectacle_K
[22:26] <Mavrik> since it causes a noticable difference and I was just wondering if I'm causing problems to other people when I suggest installation :)
[22:26] <powerplay> jrib: i inserted echo statements on the top of both the files but not getting any output when i open up a new terminal
[22:27] <dr_willis> timespliter:  sometimes the list on the right  side gets 'resized' where its just 1 pixle wide. mouse over to the right edge and look for the cursor to change,, also check the menus to be sure its not hidden,
[22:27] <jrib> powerplay: you added them after the line that starts with #!, right?
[22:27] <dr_willis> I always hide the list anyway. ;)
[22:27] <Spectacle_K> I have LibreOffice <IP_ADDRESS> and it has stopped spell checking my documents. But spell check works in other programmes. How can I restore spell check to LibreOffice?
[22:27] <drag0nius> how can i set custom volume in alsamixer?
[22:27] <drag0nius> theres -77 db gain possibly by a bug but i'd still like to make it a little less
[22:27] <w0rm> hello nerds
[22:27] <Meris> dragO
[22:28] <lidar> Mavrik, in theory no package from the official repos should cause conflicts .. however if soemthing comes up its usually fixable
[22:28] <jrib> drag0nius: you could try amixer from the command line
[22:28] <powerplay> jrib: there is no line that starts with #!
[22:28] <jrib> powerplay: ok
[22:28] <geudrik> powerplay: do you know what language it's written in?
[22:29] <jrib> powerplay: for fun, run "bash -l" in your current shell and report what happens
[22:29] <Meris> drag0nius, try starting a terminal and starting alsamixer. Do you see a "Master" bar?
[22:29] <powerplay> geudrik: cant really tell
[22:29] <qw12> how do i make the output of cron scripts emailed to root ?
[22:29] <powerplay> jrib: nothing happenas
[22:30] <jrib> qw12: I think you just need an mta installed (ubuntu doesn't have one by default)
[22:30] <drag0nius> yeah its on 0 :P
[22:30] <drag0nius> and gain is -77
[22:30] <powerplay> jrib: if i run "bash -" and then run ls command then i do get the color coded output
[22:30] <geudrik> qw12: # apt-get install postfix
[22:30] <drag0nius> but i still wanna more
[22:30] <TierraTij> Is DonkeyHotei/Faqtotum here?
[22:30] <jrib> powerplay: you're not getting your echo outputs from either "bash -l" or "bash -"?
[22:31] <TierraTij> nvm
[22:31] <krababbel> drag0nius: that's probably set in hardware
[22:31] <Meris> drag0nius, you mean "less"...What does it say next to Card in AlsaMixer?
[22:31] <powerplay> oh i took out the echo outputs
[22:31] <powerplay> jrib: lemme insert them again and try again
[22:31] <krababbel> drag0nius: try pulseaudio maybe
[22:31] <dr_willis> example .bashrc with echo statement near the top --> pastebinit  .bashrc
[22:31] <dr_willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174784/
[22:31] <Jimmy_Chunga> i'm running ubuntu 12.04 lts and usually at the login screen it will show the desktop background of the user. i turned on the computer one day and instead of showing my background it showed the default background instead. why is this? can i fix it?
[22:32] <drag0nius> i've audiotrak prodigy hd2
[22:32] <drag0nius> but its still too loud xD
[22:32] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  where is your background file saved to?
[22:32] <drag0nius> could i hack it somehow so the slider has like -200 db by default? xD
[22:32] <powerplay> jrib: ya not getting any outputs at all
[22:32] <Jimmy_Chunga> it's in a hidden file in the home directory.
[22:32] <jrib> powerplay: that's pretty weird...
[22:32] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  check permissions on it perhaps.
[22:32] <Jimmy_Chunga> k, what am i looking for in permissions?
[22:32] <powerplay> jrib: that means that these files are not even being read right?
[22:32] <jrib> powerplay: you're not using sudo for any of this, right?
[22:33] <powerplay> jrib: nope
[22:33] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: what am i looking for exactly?
[22:33] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  see what permissions it has..
[22:33] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  is your home encrypted also?
[22:33] <powerplay> jrib: anything else i can try or does this seem like a bug>
[22:34] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: i don't know, how do i check? it used to show my backgrounds, but now it won't.
[22:34] <dr_willis> powerplay:  make a new user.. see if it affects them
[22:34] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  ls -l filename   to see permissions....
[22:34] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: forgive me, but what do you mean?
[22:35] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  to see what permissions are on a file you use the 'ls -l' command
[22:35] <dr_willis> !permissions
[22:35] <Meris> drag0nius, if you want to hack into the alsa setting, you can better look into: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[22:35] <jrib> powerplay: pastebin: strace bash -l |& grep '/\.'
[22:35] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: ok, what now?
[22:36] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  and what are the permissions of the file?
[22:36] <Kevin1a> I'm having an issue with my sound stuttering, cutting out, buzzing, etc.  Tried most of the normal ideas already.  It happens in Ubuntu and Windows which makes me think hardware, but it happens with multiple different soundcards which makes me think software.  I tried different speakers and cables so it has to be in the computer or software itself.  Any suggestions on things I can try next?
[22:36] <powerplay> jrib: i get this " open("/home/miker/.bash_profile", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
[22:37] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: the file? i'm sorry, i'm really new to ubuntu, i have no clue. i just entered the command and it's giving me drwxr on various files like 'desktop', 'documents', etc.
[22:37] <jrib> powerplay: that can't be the only output you get, is it?
[22:37] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  and  the file you are using as your wallpaper.. whats its name.. and what permissions are on it?
[22:37] <powerplay> jrib: thats all i get then it hangs
[22:37] <jrib> powerplay: you can type "exit" and hit enter to quit it.  Pastebin ~/.bash_profile
[22:38] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  the exact command 'ls -al whateveryourimagefilenameis' should tell you the exact info to be looking at.
[22:38] <Meris> Gotta sleep now. Bye everyone
[22:38] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: read and write under 'owner'
[22:38] <powerplay> jrib: bash profile is empty
[22:38] <jrib> powerplay: rename it (or just delete it)
[22:38] <exutux> bash_profile doesn't exist by default I think
[22:39] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: so the file name is Flowing Rock.jpg
[22:39] <powerplay> jrib: okay i deleted it
[22:39] <exutux> if you want customize your shell prompt you have to modify .bashrc
[22:39] <jrib> powerplay: run « bash -l ».  Do your echo statements show up now?
[22:39] <powerplay> jrib: those arrows are not part of the command right?
[22:39] <jrib> powerplay: right
[22:39] <dr_willis> I thought if .bash_profile existes it does not parse the other .bash* configs
[22:40] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: i'm trying the command but it's saying it cannot access because of no such file or directory.
[22:40] <jrib> dr_willis: that's my thought now, yes
[22:40] <exutux> dr_willis: right
[22:40] <lsv> anyone here a grub wizard?
[22:40] <exutux> dr_willis: but you have to create manually it
[22:40] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  I suggest avoidding spaces in file names.. they just cause issues..   use single quotes around files with spaces in the names as a work around
[22:40] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  ls -l 'the file name.jpg'
[22:41] <powerplay> jrib: nope still no luck :)(
[22:41] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: it says no such file or directory
[22:41] <powerplay> jrib: :(
[22:41] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: is it because i moved these pictures from another computer?
[22:41] <exutux> bash_profile is a local file, and bashrc it's global
[22:41] <jrib> powerplay: pastebin: strace bash -l |& grep '/\.'
[22:42] <drag0nius> hmm
[22:42] <drag0nius> steam does not follow that ln -s link
[22:42] <drag0nius> on ubuntu at least
[22:42] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  whats the exact ls command you are using?
[22:42] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: ls -l 'Flowing Rock.jpg'
[22:43] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: "ls: cannot access Flowing Rock.jpg: No such file or directory"
[22:43] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:   and what directory are you in? what directory is the file in? 'pwd' or the prompt shows your current directory
[22:43] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  and the TAB key can be used to auto complete file names.
[22:44] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: "xxxx@xxxx-HP-G62-Notebook-PC:~$"
[22:44] <Newtoubuntu> what is the task manager equivalent on ubuntu using the keyboard?
[22:44] <lsv> I just updated to 12.04.1 and have some troubles starting up using normal boot (display won't start) and recovery mode gives me a low resolution display.  I think this has to do with some of grub's options.  Any ideas?  Help.
[22:44] <powerplay> jrib: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1174798/
[22:45] <k3rn3l_klink> what's the scoop on 12.04 LTS?  Should I install now or wait a bit until the community works some bugs out?
[22:45] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: the file is under a hidden folder in the home directory called '.Customization'
[22:45] <jrib> powerplay: pastebin ~/.bash_login
[22:45] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: yes i had the same problem. ill send you a link soon
[22:45] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: Thanks
[22:45] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  then you need to check the permissions of that directory and the file.
[22:45] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: how do i do that?\
[22:45] <lsv> k3rn3l_klink: maybe wait?
[22:46] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  via the ls command like we have been using. It may be a good idea to go spend an half hour reading some bash tutorials.
[22:46] <powerplay> jrib: [[ -s "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" ]] && source "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" # Load RVM into a shell session *as a function*
[22:46] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1900024 post number 6. Was a major pain with me as well.
[22:46] <k3rn3l_klink> lsv: not sure I understand your "question".
[22:46] <dr_willis> ls -l .Custm<tab key>/Flo<TabKey>
[22:46] <jrib> powerplay: for now just rename the file while we troubleshoot.  Later you may want to move that to .bashrc (or .profile as appropriate)
[22:46] <Newtoubuntu> how can i exit a program that wont close normally?
[22:46] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: ok, but... so it's under the hom directory so i'd do 'ls -l' and then the directory?
[22:47] <powerplay> jrib: so rename both bashrc and profile?
[22:47] <nsmgo> asking for help debugging why i'm getting 404 on a fresh nginx/php/mysql install using this guide: http://blog.swiftbyte.com/linux/how-to-install-nginx-php-fpm-and-mysql-on-ubuntu/
[22:47] <jrib> powerplay: no, rename ~/.bash_login and nothing else
[22:47] <dr_willis> Jimmy_Chunga:  its Not in your Home direcotry - you just said its in the .Customization directory.
[22:48] <dr_willis> ls -l .Customization   or ls -ld .Customization
[22:48] <k3rn3l_klink> is it a good idea to update to 12.04 LTS now?
[22:48] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: yes, in the home directory in .Customization
[22:48] <powerplay> jrib: ok done
[22:48] <histo> k3rn3l_klink: yes it's fine
[22:48] <Jimmy_Chunga> dr_willis: the folder is in home
[22:48] <Bodsda> Hi, I have a working ubuntu installation on /dev/sda1 and also have a blank hdd with just an ext4 filesystem (no data) on /dev/sdc1, how can I install say another ubunu system (or other distro) to /dev/sdc1 without using any removable media (cd or usb)?
[22:48] <k3rn3l_klink> histo: thanks, dude.
[22:48] <lsv> k3rn3l_klink: after upgrade, normal boot makes my display stay blank/black.  I can get a low resolution display after selecting recovery mode from grub menu.
[22:48] <jrib> powerplay: bash -l, check for echo lines
[22:48] <histo> k3rn3l_klink: I upgraded two of my servers without hitches
[22:49] <histo> lsv: you need proper video drivers
[22:49] <histo> !install > Bodsda
[22:49] <powerplay> jrib: yesssss success it printed out!
[22:49] <dr_willis> Bodsda:  you can set up grub2 to boot ISO files with a little work.
[22:49] <jrib> powerplay: try opening a new terminal
[22:49] <dr_willis> Bodsda:  depending on what it is you want to install.
[22:49] <histo> Bodsda: You can use debootstrap to install ubuntu over the network on the other drive
[22:50] <powerplay> jrib: yayy the new terminal has the color coded ls lisitngs :)
[22:50] <Bodsda> histo: dr_willis - cheers guys
[22:50] <jrib> powerplay: assuming you still want rvm, check the documentation to see if you can add it to the bottom of your .profile or .bashrc (I don't know what rvm does and which is more appropriate)
[22:51] <powerplay> jrib: ok will do and rvm is a manager for ruby programming language https://rvm.io/
[22:51] <soman> Hi all. I want to build library in debug and release (2xconfigure, 2xmake) Do I need 'make install' 2 times or just once at end to install debug and release?
[22:54] <histo> Bodsda: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[22:55] <powerplay> jrib: found this online http://marc-bowes.com/2012/04/15/rvm-breaking-your-bashrc.html
[22:55] <powerplay> jrib: not sure if its the best way solution tho
[22:55] <jrib> powerplay: heh
[22:55] <trashdeb> Hello. I'm trying to dual-boot Ubuntu using WUBI. I have installed Ubuntu using WUBI on a fresh install of Windows 7. If I shut down my laptop and boot Ubuntu, it works. But once I've started Windows again, I can't start Ubuntu anymore. The following errors appear: "try (hd0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" "Try (hd0,1): NTFS5: error: "prefix" is not set.", after which the GRUB command prompt is shown.
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[22:56] <Newtoubuntu> how do i close a program that wont close normally?
[22:56] <daemon> killall / kill
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> Newtoubuntu  alt-f2 xkill
[22:57] <freerobby> I apologize for repeating questions but I've pined through hundreds of threads on the ubuntu forums/docs and I just can't find anything on this. I can get ulimit -n to work fine in a shell (https://gist.github.com/7fff364c0bca20c27aa5), but never to hold a value for an upstart process. Does anybody know how to set the ulimit values for processes that are not spawned in a bash shell?
[22:57] <jrib> freerobby: I have no idea if it addresses your question, but have you checked the upstart cookbook?
[22:57] <freerobby> jrib: I have.
[22:58] <jrib> freerobby: there's a #upstart here on freenode that may be able to help
[22:58] <Newtoubuntu> MonkeyDust, thanks. that is an awesome method used on this OS
[22:58] <freerobby> jrib: Ubuntu appears not to be honoring my /etc/default/ubuntu values, but I have no idea why.
[22:58] <trashdeb> Newtoubuntu: Go to System Monitor -> Processes. Select your program and kill it.
[22:58] <freerobby> jrib: Thanks, I'll ask there. I don't think it's an upstart issue though.
[22:58] <Newtoubuntu> trashdeb, thanks.
[22:58] <freerobby> I think upstart is just an example of something that isn't getting spawned from a shell.
[22:58] <histo> Newtoubuntu: from terminal you can kill someprogramname if it's really hung up you can use kill -9 someprogramname
[22:59] <trashdeb> Newtoubuntu: np, good luck.
[22:59] <Newtoubuntu> histo: thanks.
[22:59] <jrib> freerobby: how are you setting the ulimit?
[22:59] <trashdeb> though kill -9 is very much not recommended from what I've heard..
[22:59] <MonkeyDust> Newtoubuntu  mind: xkill kills the graphical interface, not the process
[22:59] <gordonjcp> trashdeb: well, it depends
[22:59] <gordonjcp> trashdeb: it may leave things in an uncertain state
[23:00] <gordonjcp> trashdeb: what's really not recommended is running stuff that needs to be kill -9'ed
[23:00] <freerobby> jrib: I've tried a few things. Set high system limits in /etc/security/limits.conf. Tried making a /etc/default/ubuntu that set it. Also tried setting it directly in the upstart file.
[23:01] <Newtoubuntu> gordonjcp,  what is the normal method to just kill a single program then?
[23:01] <jrib> freerobby: did you see if it made a difference whether the service starts at boot or later on?  (So for example stop the service and then start it again after the boot process is over)
[23:02] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: gonna try it now.  I'll be back.
[23:02] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: cool. let me know
[23:02] <tushar> hello?
[23:02] <tushar> is there any one?
[23:03] <trashdeb> tushar: yes. just ask your question.
[23:03] <gordonjcp> Newtoubuntu: normally it should close when asked
[23:03] <freerobby> jrib: Yes, it fails in both cases.
[23:03] <gordonjcp> Newtoubuntu: it does very much depend on what the program is though
[23:03] <tushar> i need a software
[23:03] <trashdeb> tushar: what software?
[23:03] <powerplay> jrib: my rvm commands still work fine, just wanted to know is it necessary to have the bash_login or can i just leave it renamed?
[23:04] <jrib> powerplay: you can leave it renamed
[23:04] <tushar> that can help me log in to multiple account
[23:04] <tushar> like facebook
[23:04] <tushar> msn
[23:04] <tushar> yahoo
[23:04] <tushar> google
[23:04] <FloodBot1> tushar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:04] <tushar> etc
[23:04] <powerplay> jrib: oh so i will never need it in the future?
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> tushar  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:04] <trashdeb> tushar: multiple accounts on what?
[23:04] <jrib> powerplay: it's basically like another .profile but with a different name
[23:04] <Newtoubuntu> is there a program similar to netwatcher which allows you to see who is on your wifi? i dont prefer to use wireshark.
[23:04] <jrib> freerobby: there's some discussion here http://serverfault.com/questions/195655/squid-running-out-of-file-descriptors-on-ubuntu though the user is on 10.04
[23:05] <Jimmy_Chunga> if i check to see if something is encrypted, what does it mean if it is in blue text?
[23:05] <powerplay> jrib: i see well thanks a lot for youre help i really really reaally really appreciate it!!!!
[23:05] <jrib> powerplay: no problem
[23:05] <jrib> freerobby: maybe give more details about what you are doing if you can
[23:05] <trashdeb> tushar: There isn't 1 software for all the networks. With Pidgin you can use multiple internet messaging accounts at the same time (Google Chat, Facebook Chat, Live Messenger, Yahoo, etc.)
[23:05] <powerplay> jrib: any books/reading u can recommend for me to get more familiar with this unix stiff?
[23:06] <jrib> !rute | powerplay
[23:06] <tushar> pidgin is not userfriendly
[23:06] <jrib> powerplay: the rute book is very comprehensive
[23:06] <trashdeb> Newtoubuntu: You can see who's on your network by logging into your router too. That might not be what you are looking for, but I'm just saying ;)
[23:06] <trashdeb> tushar: To what accounts do you want to be logged in?
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> tushar  i.e.: you don't like pidgin
[23:06] <powerplay> ubottu: thanks
[23:06] <tushar> ya i dont like it
[23:07] <powerplay> ubottu: wow im talking to a bot how cool
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> tushar  try empathy
[23:07] <tushar> ok empathy
[23:07] <trashdeb> tushar: To what accounts do you want to be logged in at the same time?
[23:07] <moosen> how do i decrypt my home folder?
[23:08] <trashdeb> moosen: I've done that successfully before using a post from stackoverflow.
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> !encrypt > moosen
[23:08] <tushar> that is yahoo skype msn facebook gmail
[23:08] <freerobby> jrib: May have found the solution here: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Stanzas#limit It looks like upstart has its own way of doing limits; oddly unmentioned in any of the upstart tutorials i saw
[23:08] <jrib> freerobby: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Stanzas#limit seems relevant too
[23:08] <freerobby> ha
[23:08] <jrib> freerobby: ha.
[23:08] <jrib> ,,,
[23:08] <freerobby> oh man
[23:08] <freerobby> where do you even take that?
[23:08] <tushar> trashdeb that is yahoo skype msn facebook gmail
[23:08] <powerplay> jrib: awesome thanks
[23:08] <jrib> freerobby: I came across http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/v5FspALFu8N9fFxc8vPw
[23:08] <nOde> Hi, I need some help. I installed ubuntu 12.04 on my dell laptop a few days back. But whenever I choose ubuntu, the fan speed increases so much that I can even hear the sound. I've not installed any external graphics card. The one I have is Intel 4000.
[23:09] <trashdeb> tushar: There is no third-party application for Skype as far as I'm aware.
[23:09] <moosen> ubottu: I don't understand how this helps me.
[23:09] <freerobby> jrib: I appreciate the help, think I'm close enough to get the rest of the way on my own
[23:09] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: I think that did it.  Thanks.
[23:09] <jrib> freerobby: cool, good luck
[23:09] <nOde> Could someone help me?
[23:09] <tushar> trashdeb its souond not good
[23:09] <trashdeb> tushar: Yahoo, MSN, Facebook and Gmail are all supported by Pidgin.
[23:09] <moosen> so how do I decrypt my home folder?
[23:09] <trashdeb> moosen: Please PM me, I can help you.
[23:10] <nOde> If anyone can help me,
[23:10] <trashdeb> moosen: See pm.
[23:10] <nOde>  I installed ubuntu 12.04 on my dell laptop a few days back. But whenever I choose ubuntu, the fan speed increases so much that I can even hear the sound. I've not installed any external graphics card. The one I have is Intel 4000.
[23:10] <trashdeb> n0de: Maybe. Just ask your question :)
[23:10] <jrib> !encryption | moosen
[23:10] <Newtoubuntu> ubottu needs a grammar upgrade XD
[23:10] <tushar> trashdeb i cant login in facebook and yahoo by pidgin
[23:11] <jrib> Newtoubuntu: tell him :)
[23:11] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: no problem. did you have in issue with brightness at all?
[23:11] <trashdeb> tushar: I'm sorry but I'm helping moosen now. Please wait for a while.
[23:12] <tushar> ok
[23:12] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: I thought it was another thing but apparently the brightness was the problem.
[23:12] <tushar> thank u so much
[23:13] <tushar> trashdeb where r u grom?
[23:13] <tushar> trashdeb where r u from?
[23:13] <tushar> trashdeb i am also a java student
[23:14] <MonkeyDust> tushar  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[23:14] <tushar> trashdeb i need a compiler
[23:14] <tushar> to practice
[23:14] <tushar> can u help me out
[23:14] <tushar> ?
[23:15] <h00k> tushar: you can try ##java
[23:15] <tushar> join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[23:15] <tushar> bash: /join: No such file or directory
[23:15] <tushar> hook sure
[23:15] <trashdeb> tushar: I don't know much about compilers or Java, sorry.
[23:15] <trashdeb> tushar: Are you trying to log into Facebook or Facebook Chat?
[23:15] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: well i now have full res and can actually boot without the nomodeset option but i havnt been able to fix my brightness issue.
[23:15] <tushar> ya
[23:15] <silverarrow> hi
[23:15] <MonkeyDust> tushar  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:16] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: my last attempt landed me at that dreaded blank boot screen again
[23:16] <h00k> tushar: Do that on your IRC application, not a terminal.
[23:16] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: oh :(  My brightness somewhat works
[23:16] <tushar> bash: /join: No such file or directory
[23:16] <trashdeb> tushar: That's not an answer. Do you want to see your Timeline or do you want to chat with your Facebook friends? You can only chat with your Facebook friends using Pidgin.
[23:17] <tushar> chat
[23:17] <goddard> im planning on buying some bluetooth speakers for my laptop any recommendations?
[23:17] <trashdeb> Okay. Then Pidgin should work.
[23:17] <trashdeb> tushar
[23:17] <tushar> yes?
[23:17] <MonkeyDust> tushar  here in the channel, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:17] <trashdeb> tushar: Can you PM me?
[23:17] <tushar> let me try
[23:18] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: Its ridiculous really. I almost gave up on Ubuntu :(
[23:18] <tushar> i am all new in linux
[23:18] <tushar> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:18] <lsv> Newtoubuntu: have you tried any other linux distros?
[23:19] <tushar> hook?
[23:19] <lsv> to compile a Java program: javac main_java_file.java
[23:19] <tushar> hook? where i have to type ##java?
[23:19] <Newtoubuntu> lsv: no because i literally had the same boot issue with an older version of ubuntu. i have also seen on forums some fedora users experiencing the same problem.
[23:19] <lsv> then to run the program: java main_java_file
[23:20] <lsv> if I am not mistaken.
[23:20] <tushar> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:21] <nOde>  I installed ubuntu 12.04 on my dell laptop a few days back. But whenever I choose ubuntu, the fan speed increases so much that I can even hear the sound. I've not installed any external graphics card. The one I have is Intel 4000.
[23:21] <histo> tushar: /join ##java in your irc window
[23:24] <RustyShackleford> My internet (connected through ethernet) is acting wonky
[23:24] <RustyShackleford> however, it works fine under windows
[23:24] <RustyShackleford> I'm getting frequent dns lookup failures
[23:25] <nOde> lol I'm not getting any help here
[23:25] <goddard> im planning on buying some bluetooth speakers for my laptop any recommendations?
[23:26] <nOde> Better to post it on ubuntu forum
[23:27] <dr_willis> or askubuntu.com
[23:27] <dr_willis> best is to search those sites  :) then post.
[23:27] <Daghdha> i always just make a new post.
[23:28] <Daghdha> They like that
[23:28] <Daghdha> The moderators, realy gives them a sense of purpose.
[23:28] <nOde> Thank you dr_jesus
[23:28] <nOde> dr_willis*
[23:29] <Super_Dog> Anybody done an upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS on Ubuntu?  Just showed up as a viable upgrade option in the last week or so.
[23:30] <Daghdha> Hmm, wasn't there when i upgraded
[23:30] <Daghdha> Had to go trough 11
[23:30] <Daghdha> iirc
[23:30] <compdoc> Super_Dog, I see some ppl mentioning it in the mailing list
[23:31] <Super_Dog> What mailing list are you talking about?
[23:31] <compdoc> the ubuntu support mailing list
[23:31] <Super_Dog> You have a URL for that?
[23:31] <compdoc> you can get more detailed support using it
[23:31] <Super_Dog> I'm on the forums and stuff.    That's a lot of lists.
[23:34] <compdoc> ^
[23:34] <tushar> monkeydust: nothing happnen
[23:34] <Chaser> Super_Dog, I did. It was fine except for some pop up dialog boxes with alien characters during the upgrade. I hit what I thought was OK button and it went on.
[23:35] <Super_Dog> Chaser... Do you have a LAMP installation on your desktop?
[23:35] <harris> i am running ubuntu 12.04 but instead of unity i am in mint how do i remove the bottom bar so that the only dock is docky
[23:35] <Chaser> Super_Dog, sorry nope
[23:35] <Super_Dog> Particularly interested in how 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade will go with LAMP.
[23:35] <tushar> monkeydust: ?
[23:36] <Super_Dog> Guess I better clone this sucker just in case the worst happens before I try the upgrade.
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> tushar  !
[23:36] <Daghdha> Well, i trust you will 1st make a backup
[23:36] <tushar> monkeydust: nothing happen
[23:36] <dr_willis> harris:  if you are using 'mint' you should be in the mint support channels.
[23:36] <histo> This is interesting booting ubuntu cd in virtualbox. I cannot resolve dns queries but I can ping inet addresses by ip. I've tried both NAT and Bridged mode for network settings for the vm.
[23:36] <Chaser> Super_Dog, thats a good idea even if otherwise
[23:36] <histo> I can confirm that in bridged mode all my dns servers pulled are those that the host machine is running
[23:37] <Super_Dog> Chaser:  But your 10.04LTS to 12.04.1 LTS upgrade went smoothly other than some weird alien characters?
[23:37] <Chaser> yup !
[23:37] <harris> what is the mint channel
[23:37] <harris> ! mint
[23:37] <Super_Dog> Chaser: You running 12.04 LTS right now with satisfactory upgrade?  You didn't have to re-install from scratch.
[23:38] <zokk> hmm how do i switch from xubuntu load/login screen to ubuntu/unity ?
[23:38] <Newtoubuntu> mint cinnamon
[23:38] <Newtoubuntu> yum
[23:38] <MonkeyDust> tushar  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#GNU_Compiler_for_Java
[23:39] <Chaser> Super_Dog, thats correct. Its a desktop but have been using it as build machine.
[23:39] <Newtoubuntu> Is there a way i can replace the position of my Operating Sytems order at the grub menu?
[23:39] <Super_Dog> Cool... Running 12.04 LTS on some other machines over here but I know that the support runs out in April so I want to bite the bullet and just go for it.
[23:40] <Super_Dog> All the other machines I'm running with 12.04 were virgin drive installs and not upgrades.
[23:40] <Chaser> I am sticking to 10.04 till support ends for my laptop though.
[23:41] <dr_willis> Newtoubuntu:  by altering the /etc/default/grub or the /etc/grub.d files
[23:41] <Super_Dog> I actually am running 12.04 on my laptop and upgraded through the whole cycle - 10.04 -->11.04 -->11.10 --> 12.04.
[23:41] <Spectacle_K> Does anyone know how to make a list of all the installed programmes on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS installation so that I can just simply restore them on a fresh install of Ubuntu? So I don't have to go through the Software Centre and reinstall them all individually.
[23:41] <Super_Dog> I guess I just got lucky with that one.
[23:41] <dr_willis> !clone | Spectacle_K
[23:42] <dr_willis> but that factoid is a bit out of date.. your eally sholdent be using aptitude these days.,
[23:42] <Spectacle_K> dr_willis: And this will back up all my programmes so that I can reinstall them all at once?
[23:42] <Ben64> Super_Dog: the upgrades usually work. I went from Edgy -> Feisty -> Gutsy -> Hardy -> Lucid
[23:42] <dr_willis> it makes a LIST of the installed packages.
[23:42] <Super_Dog> The desktop I'm running has a sweet install of AjaxPlorer with a LAMP stack and that's why I've been hesitant to mess with it until the 12.04 LTS upgrade path was released to the public.
[23:42] <Newtoubuntu> how do i gain root access?
[23:42] <Chaser> Super_Dog, I remember having to tweak xchat2 profile when I upgraded from 8.04 -> 10.04 on my laptop but other than that it was smooth as far as I can remember.
[23:42] <dr_willis> !sudo | Newtoubuntu
[23:42] <Spectacle_K> dr_willis: and can I use this list to restore my apps all at once so I don't have to install them individually through the software centre?
[23:43] <dr_willis> Spectacle_K:  the use of aptitude is not reccomended these days
[23:43] <Spectacle_K> dr_willis: And why is that?
[23:43] <dr_willis> Spectacle_K:  once you have that list in a text file. you could make your own script to install them
[23:43] <dr_willis> !aptitude
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  here's what I did: made a manual list of all installed, abiword, preload etc etc and put it in a text file // I just have to install it by copy/paste in a terminal
[23:43] <Super_Dog> I had some spotty upgrades in the past and that's why I'm a little nervous...  I was thinking the LTS to LTS upgrade (10.04 -->12.04) should be a little more solid.
[23:44] <Spectacle_K> dr_willis: MonkeyDust how do I do this?
[23:44] <dr_willis> i alwyas  just do clean installs.. but i do test/install tons and tons of junk i try out once.
[23:44] <blackshirt> super_dog, why do you feel nervous?
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  manually :)
[23:44] <Ben64> Super_Dog: 12.04 is very different from 10.04, but the upgrade itself should work fine
[23:45] <Spectacle_K> This is what I don't want to do. I have a lot of programmes installed and going through them one by one takes too long. I just want to be able to install them all at once, or automatically.
[23:45] <trashdeb> dr_willis: Yes, you could make your own script, but I don't think Spectacle_K has the knowledge to do that.
[23:45] <trashdeb> dr_willis: Could he make a list of all the applications he has now and do "apt-get install PACKAGE1 PACKAGE2 PACKAGE3 PACKAGEETC" when he is on his fresh install?
[23:45] <Spectacle_K> So I can walk away from the computer and come back to the installed programmes?
[23:45] <dr_willis> Spectacle_K:  once you get a list.. you make a script with a lot of 'apt-get install whatever' from that list.
[23:45] <Super_Dog> Because interim release upgrades on some hardware have not gone as well for me.  But I must confess that the most recent upgrades have been much better.
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  then try apt-on cd, it creates a list too, in an iso file
[23:46] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  that's aptoncd
[23:46] <Super_Dog> Some of the 8.X to 9.X and 9.X to 10.X upgrades a few years ago were particularly nasty...
[23:46] <blackshirt> spectacle_k, what do you mean?
[23:46] <Ben64> Super_Dog: you could back up first in case things go awry
[23:46] <harushimo> is there a way to do a purge remove of an application in ubuntu
[23:46] <harushimo> I forgot the command
[23:46] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  catch, if you did apt-get clean, you can no longer use aptoncd
[23:46] <Ben64> harushimo: apt-get purge
[23:47] <krios> anyone got xmonad on ubuntu?
[23:47] <Spectacle_K> blackshirt: I mean I just want to be able to do a clean install, run a script or whatever and it starts installing all the apps and programmes I had on Ubuntu before the reinstall. That way I don't have to manually click install in the software centre for each programme.
[23:47] <harushimo> thank you
[23:47] <jrib> !anyone | krios
[23:47] <Spectacle_K> I apologise and thanks for your patience everyone I just apparently have no clue when it comes to advanced Ubuntu stuff.
[23:47] <lovesvolt> I got a Asus G75vw, GTX670m with no integrated gfx. When I try to install Ubuntu it finishing the install, but at first boot the screen goes purple and then "crashes" into lines in different colors. I think i need drivers to my GPU but since I can't get any picture at all I don't know how to install them. HALP!
[23:48] <Super_Dog> Yeah... Any particular imaging / cloning procedure you guys like before I upgrade here?  I was thinking of stealing more space away from the Windows Server installed on this box by resizing the drive partitions with GParted.
[23:48] <MonkeyDust> Spectacle_K  that's not advanced ubuntu stuff, that's called a backup
[23:48] <blackshirt> spectacle_k, you can dpkg-repack your programs
[23:48] <Spectacle_K> Well it's advanced for me X3
[23:48] <Super_Dog> ConeZilla?  DD? Anything else?
[23:48] <Spectacle_K> blackshirt: And how do I do that?
[23:48] <blackshirt> and install thats you want
[23:49] <blackshirt> you should install dpkg-repack first
[23:49] <Spectacle_K> I just want my programmes to install automatically without me having to click 'install' on each one.
[23:50] <blackshirt> and then you can use dpkg-repack to repackage the programs installed
[23:50] <ridor> hi
[23:51] <ridor> my ubuntu strats slowly because it take a time whith message "waiting for network confguration"
[23:51] <ridor> how i resolve it ?
[23:52] <blackshirt> i think you don't need all of the packages, because of from clean install a lo ot packages has been installed
[23:52] <BlueEagle> if you google ubuntu network background you'll find useful info.
[23:53] <ridor> how i disable network configuration at the startup
[23:53] <ridor> have you a link internet ?
[23:53] <blackshirt> I think you just want some special programs had been installed before and you want use it on new system
[23:53] <ridor> i have SAMBA and ssh server
[23:54] <budric> Hi, can someone tell me how to install a sound card?  I've tried: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting.    But the module for my sound card isn't loaded.  My particular sound card is ALC887-VD2
[23:54] <blackshirt> ridor, are you using ubuntu server?
[23:54] <BlueEagle> you shouldn't disable it and I'm on my phone so I won't google for you
[23:54] <ridor> no blackshirt
[23:54] <ridor> ubuntu 12.04
[23:56] <ridor> it is not the connection wiref connect automaticly ??
[23:56] <harushimo> how do I check the memory of my root partition on the command line?
[23:56] <ridor> wired*3
[23:56] <budric> harushimo: df-h
[23:56] <budric> harushimo: df -h
[23:56] <ridor> blackshirt ?
[23:57] <harushimo> ok
[23:57] <harushimo> how do I check for unused programs on the root partition?
[23:57] <blackshirt> harushimo, what do you mean?
[23:57] <budric> harushimo: deborphaned package, or wajig can sort installed packages by size
[23:57] <blackshirt> harushimo, what do you mean with unused programs?
[23:57] <harushimo> for some odd reason, I'm using 98 % of my root partition
[23:58] <BlueEagle> harush: check the executable bit and filesystem atime.
[23:58] <harushimo> how would I do that?
[23:58] <blackshirt> yes ridor
[23:58] <BlueEagle> haruah: find
[23:58] <budric> harushimo: check /var/crash may have some core dumps in there
[23:58] <blackshirt> ridor, is your network using dhcp?
[23:58] <harushimo> ok
[23:59] <harushimo> it has some core dumps
[23:59] <harushimo> in the var/crash directory
[23:59] <ridor> yes in wifi
[23:59] <aaaaas> i have a problem with my graphic driver: it says that the driver is activated but not currently in use
[23:59] <harushimo> should I delete those
[23:59] <budric> you can erase those
[23:59] <harushimo> alright
[23:59] <budric> ls -lh /var/crash will show you their size
[23:59] <harushimo> thank you


[09:12] <taavster> hello is someone there
[09:24] <taavster> hello can someone give me some help?
[09:28] <oCean> hello taavster, best is to just go ahead and ask your question in the channel. Then see if someone knows the answer..
[09:45] <taavster> Hi i was trying to install ubuntu 11.10 from a usb today, when i got to the phase where it asked me what kind of installation i wanted i clicked install alongside windows, then pressed continue, instead of continuing to the part where it askes me to partition my drive it instead immediately went to somekidn of black screen with data scrolling down informing me ubuntu was installing after which i encountered somekind of er
[17:21] <adamj1986> Hi, I'm a new Xubuntu user and I'm having trouble configuring the audio output.
[17:23] <adamj1986> Audio is working through the internal speakers. I can also connect to a bluetooth device. But how do I tell it to USE that bluetooth device?
[17:23] <holstein> adamj1986: i would try installing pavucontrol ... you can try astking in #xubuntu as well
[17:24] <adamj1986> Ok, didn't realize there was a separate channel. Thanks!
[17:24] <holstein> i use pavucontrol with multiple audio devices, but i cant say i have used it first hand with a BT device
[17:24] <holstein> adamj1986: totally cool to ask here as well! ...stay as long as you like :)
[17:25] <adamj1986> Installed and loaded pavucontrol, but couldn't select the output device. Got this error in console: " DEBUG: Failed to initialize device manager extension: No such extension"
[17:26] <holstein> adamj1986: so the GUI didnt load?
[17:27] <adamj1986> It loaded and seemed to be fine but I have no options for the output device
[17:27] <holstein> adamj1986: BT devices may not show up there
[17:28] <holstein> i just havent had the opportunity to troubleshoot them
[19:47] <zhuang> I've just installed scrotwm, logged out, switched to scrotwm and logged back in.
[19:48] <zhuang> after that, i just saw the little taskbar on the top of the screen and the ubuntu login screen
[19:48] <zhuang> i wasn't able to log back in, essentially. what might've caused this and how do I fix it?
[19:54] <zhuang> is there a way I can mask my IP when chatting using irc?
[19:54] <zhuang> or a way to do it in Xchat or...?
[20:08] <nlsthzn> :( finally a question I can answer and I miss it
[20:08] <nlsthzn> lol
[20:11] <JoseeAntonioR> :O, same over here :/
[23:08] <conorreedy> anyone in here?
[23:09] <benonsoftware> yes
[23:10] <conorreedy> I want to ask a question, I'm just reading the terms of service
[23:13] <conorreedy> Ok, so has anyone experienced "No boot device available" when inserting a CD burned iso and trying to boot from it?