[04:43] <bbba> alguma cross por aqui?
[12:46] <greekfire> hey
[12:50] <cfhowlett> greekfire, greetings
[15:58] <studio-user617> Speak Spanish ?
[15:59] <cub> !es
[15:59] <cub> a bit late, but anyhow.
[17:15] <vieras_> test...
[17:16] <vieras_> Hi, question... How do I can remove whole Audio Production section from studio?
[17:17] <vieras_> to bit lighten and take unused programs out
[20:35] <Break> hi
[20:36] <Break> i've installed ubuntu-studio , but can't start using it :/ , i've a problem on the grub , i get a black screen with ' grub> ' interpeter
[20:37] <Break> i tried to use grub-repair but i've always the same problem
[20:37] <Break> now connecting from live session, any help please?
[20:37] <holstein> Break: sounds like i would do some testing.. i would want to know that the hard drive is OK>. i would want to test the iso..
[20:38] <holstein> if you are getting to a live desktop, then the hardware is supported. that leaves the hard drive
[20:38] <holstein> if the hard drive is bad, then linux wont "fix" it
[20:39] <Break> i bought a new pc from 3 days, i tested windows 8 and it worked fine
[20:39] <Break> holstein: i don't think that it's a hardware problem,
[20:40] <holstein> Break: sure.. and the issue there is "think".. you test and confirm to be sure
[20:40] <holstein> Break: new hard drives and hard drives that are 3+ years old are likely to be bad. most likely.. but, i think you are dealing with uefi issues
[20:40] <holstein> !uefi
[20:41] <cub> That was my thought also
[20:41] <holstein> what i would do is, try a mini iso.. see that it boots.. mini iso or something like xubuntu/lubuntu.. then add what you like to if from the ubuntustudio packages/metapackages
[20:41] <holstein> !mini | Break these are the mini iso's you can use
[20:42] <Break> ubottu: it's what i did,
[20:44] <cub> perhaps the download was faulty
[20:45] <cub> but..Break will have to return to find out
[20:45] <MaynardWaters> cub i tried plain jane ubuntu add had a few issues recently
[20:46] <MaynardWaters> took a few tries before I got the right version  and hardware setup correct
[21:52] <studio-user620> Hello  !!!
[21:53] <studio-user620> anyone can help me with a question ?? please.
[21:53] <holstein> studio-user620: just ask, and we'll see
[21:53] <MaynardWaters> studio-user620: ask, and if we know we will respond
[21:53] <MaynardWaters> !ask
[21:54] <studio-user620> hi holsetin
[21:54] <studio-user620> which is the latest Nvidia driver that works ??
[21:54] <holstein> studio-user620: "works" can depend on your specific hardware
[21:54] <holstein> !ati | studio-user620
[21:54] <studio-user620> 331 black screen T_T on Ubuntu 13.10
[21:54] <holstein> they all work for me
[21:54] <holstein> !nomodeset | studio-user620 cant help you get started and install a graphics driver
[21:55] <studio-user620> I have nvidia 660 Ti.. no work
[21:55] <holstein> studio-user620: sure.. but, its not a matter of which graphics driver works.. they *all* work.. its a matter of which works for you and your specific hardware case.. and that could be, none of them
[21:55] <holstein> studio-user620: i would start with the ndivia-current from the repo and go from there
[21:56] <studio-user620> ok thx
[21:56] <studio-user620> sorry, my english is basic
[21:57] <MaynardWaters> holstein: how is your day going?
[21:57] <holstein> MaynardWaters: not bad
[21:57] <holstein> MaynardWaters: i have the evening off
[21:57] <MaynardWaters> \o/
[21:58] <MaynardWaters> what will you do with yourself?
[21:58] <holstein> relaxing is on the agenda
[21:58] <MaynardWaters> more power to ya
[21:58] <studio-user620> hate windows, I have tired of the forever
[21:58] <studio-user620> bye bye W8.1
[21:59] <MaynardWaters> so i feel like i've been reporting back to you a bit on my ubuntu ordeals... latest is I had a desktop/server running 11.04, I got that up to 12.04 and it is running nice, but i ended up using the server 64edition
[21:59] <MaynardWaters> installed xfce and been slowly configuring from there
[22:00] <holstein> nice. thats a good way to go, i think
[22:00] <MaynardWaters> my 5disk raid array was recognize, saved me 2-3 days of rebuilding and moving data back on to that.
[22:00] <MaynardWaters> :)
[22:00] <studio-user620> Bye, and t hanks ;)


[04:47] <atamira> no one says hello anymore
[04:47] <atamira> or good mornig
[04:47] <atamira> or good afternoon
[21:31] <atamira> good morning all . from a cloudy auckland
[22:27] <mruffell> Hi atamira, from cloudy Christchurch
[22:46] <atamira> morning mruffell


[17:03] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Mantic Daily] has been updated (20230624)


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[06:55] <jbicha> bdmurray: thanks, yes I need to mark the eol-date in osinfo-db. It's also helpful to know when it's moved to old-releases since that's a different step
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[09:08] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, FYI I fixed codec2
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[11:07] <sergiodj> vorlon: hi, just a heads-up that rsync now B-D on python3-cmarkgfm, which means that the latter will need to be added to the i386 whitelist.  I've checked and python3-cmarkgfm's dependencies/B-D already seem to be present on i386
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[12:05] <LocutusOfBorg> please accept coq-simple-io
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[12:25] <coreycb> ubuntu-archive: hello, I would like to see if we can remove python-django 2:4.0.6-1 from kinetic-proposed and stick with 2:3.2.13-1 for the time being. openstack is currently not compatible with it >= 3.2.13. https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L437
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[12:34] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: thanks for the codec2 fix :)
[12:34] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: I'm working on the avifile armhf autopkgtest issue; may be related to aubio not having been rebuilt yet against new ffmpeg
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[12:36] <cpaelzer> coreycb: uuh that is painful
[12:37] <cpaelzer> coreycb: we have been working on a vast amount of dependencies already to make it django 4.0 compatible
[12:37] <cpaelzer> coreycb: what level of "not compatible" are we talking about for openstack - "working not at all" or "would be a bit of work, but could be done"
[12:37] <cpaelzer> lvoytek: ^^ please enter a discussion with coreycb
[12:38] <cpaelzer> coreycb: I'm busy at the sprint, but a bit later I'd like to ask you to get in contact with lvoytek to discuss this overall
[12:38] <coreycb> cpaelzer: not working but I don't know what the depth of it is to be honest. historically we've done this and waited on upstream to come up to speed.
[12:38] <cpaelzer> lvoytek: please let me know the outcome that you eventually agree on how to go for this cycle
[12:40] <cpaelzer> coreycb: since we are like 80% done with dependencies it would be nice if you could inquire if it is already in progress on the openstack side - just that we have all the info when making a decision
[12:40] <cpaelzer> to not throw away all that work too easily :-)
[12:41] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: ffmpeg NBS cleanup looks like it's going to be a slog.  Lots of reverse-deps that are stuck in -proposed currently, mostly with arch-specific issues
[12:43] <vorlon> anyway, I'm kicking off no-change rebuilds to try to sort out the avifile autopkgtest failure; the current test result is useless, the stack trace is in the release version of libavcodec
[12:45] <coreycb> cpaelzer: checking, there was a thread that got no responses upstream so I'm trying to ask more directly
[12:58] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: and a lot of packages ftbfs with the new ffmpeg :/
[12:58] <vorlon> maybe some will succeed on retry after more libraries are built
[12:58] <LocutusOfBorg> meh
[12:58] <LocutusOfBorg> please have a look at coq-simple-io if possible
[12:58] <LocutusOfBorg> I fixed the build failure
[12:59] <LocutusOfBorg> I want to finish ocaml, while I wait for haskell to settle down
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-simple-io [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [1.7.0-1ubuntu1]
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-simple-io [armhf] (kinetic-proposed) [1.7.0-1ubuntu1]
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-simple-io [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [1.7.0-1ubuntu2]
[13:00] <LocutusOfBorg> ta
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-simple-io [armhf] (kinetic-proposed) [1.7.0-1ubuntu2]
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-simple-io [riscv64] (kinetic-proposed) [1.7.0-1ubuntu2]
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-simple-io [arm64] (kinetic-proposed) [1.7.0-1ubuntu1]
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-simple-io [arm64] (kinetic-proposed) [1.7.0-1ubuntu2]
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-simple-io [s390x] (kinetic-proposed) [1.7.0-1ubuntu2]
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-simple-io [ppc64el] (kinetic-proposed) [1.7.0-1ubuntu1]
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-simple-io [ppc64el] (kinetic-proposed) [1.7.0-1ubuntu2]
[13:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted raspi-config [source] (jammy-proposed) [20220506-0ubuntu1~22.04.1]
[13:22] <sil2100> bdmurray: hey! I'm doing a few SRU reviews today, mostly for stuff regarding .1
[13:22] <sil2100> bdmurray: did you take a look at updating python-apt etc.?
[13:23] <bdmurray> sil2100: I have not looked at python-apt yet, but I am working on ubuntu-release-upgrader.
[13:24] <sil2100> bdmurray: thank you, I owe you a beer then o/
[13:42] <mfo> sil2100, bdmurray: hey folks o/ if you have some additional SRU review cycles today, I'd like to ask for xen/focal-unapproved, it's an incremental fix for ftbfs on arm64/armhf in focal-proposed, please.  thanks!
[13:43] <sil2100> mfo: hey! Sorry I didn't manage to get to it yesterday - the mid-cycle sprint + .1-prep is taking up quite a few of my cycles
[13:43] <mfo> sil2100, no worries! i figured you were probably busy, Łucasz :) thx for letting me know
[13:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubiquity [source] (jammy-proposed) [22.04.17]
[13:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: coq-quickchick [ppc64el] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1.6.3-1] (no packageset)
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: coq-quickchick [amd64] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1.6.3-1] (no packageset)
[14:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted wireless-regdb [sync] (jammy-proposed) [2022.06.06-0ubuntu1~22.04.1]
[14:07] <luis220413> mfo, sil2100: I have a security update on top of your SRU (bug 1956166)
[14:08] <luis220413> Bug 1956166 is your SRU, bug 1970507 is my security update
[14:08] <ebarretto> luis220413, your security update will have to wait the SRU to be merged first
[14:08] <ebarretto> luis220413, I'm already verifying it in the meantime
[14:09] <luis220413> ebarretto: Thanks! I just wanted to let sil2100 know about my security update.
[14:09] <lvoytek> cpaelzer: Thanks for letting me know! I am online now.
[14:09] <lvoytek> coreycb: I noticed the openstack issues in the proposed migration. The initial errors are easy to fix but it may go deeper than that. I'll take a more extensive look today
[14:09] <luis220413> ebarretto: And I also wanted to give an additional argument for the importance of this SRU
[14:10] <coreycb> lvoytek: thank you. I'm digging atm if you want to focus on other things. I'll keep you posted.
[14:11] <ebarretto> luis220413, +1
[14:12] <lvoytek> coreycb: sounds good, thanks! I'm pretty familiar with django 4 related errors at this point so lmk if you need any extra help there
[14:12] <coreycb> lvoytek: great, thank you
[14:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted wireless-regdb [sync] (focal-proposed) [2022.06.06-0ubuntu1~20.04.1]
[14:19] <sil2100> waveform: hey! Any status update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1923363 ?
[14:19] <sil2100> luis220413: thanks for the heads up o/
[14:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (jammy-proposed/main) [1:22.04.11 => 1:22.04.12] (core)
[14:22] <bdmurray> sil2100: ^ there is a test case missing and I'll add it after my next meeting but it should be deducible if you want to review it early
[14:25] <sil2100> bdmurray: ACK, thank you o/
[14:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted wireless-regdb [sync] (bionic-proposed) [2022.06.06-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[14:44] <sil2100> mwhudson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1974483 <- hey! Since you did some initial investigation, do we have any updates on openssh not being installed when opted-out?
[14:44] <sil2100> paride: ^ do you know by any chance?
[14:45] <paride> sil2100, in a call, then I'll look
[14:45] <dbungert> I think the plan is that we needed to fix the seeds
[14:49] <vorlon> Thread 1 "test1" received signal SIGBUS, Bus error.
[14:49] <vorlon> 0xf6bce412 in ff_put_pixels16_neon () at src/libavcodec/arm/hpeldsp_neon.S:380
[14:49] <vorlon> 380	src/libavcodec/arm/hpeldsp_neon.S: No such file or directory.
[14:49] <vorlon> (gdb)
[14:49] <vorlon> oh great, sigbus in arm-specific code
[14:49] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: ^^ avifile fyi
[14:50] <LocutusOfBorg> what a joy
[14:50] <LocutusOfBorg> aligment issue?
[14:52] <LocutusOfBorg> and of course that .S file didn't change between ffmpeg 4 and 5
[14:54] <vorlon> yes, alignment
[14:55] <vorlon> as for it not changing, that's not really surprising given that the test was originally crashing in libavcodec58, not libavcodec59 :P  I'm not sure what has changed to trigger the use of this code path where it wasn't before
[14:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-remote-desktop [source] (jammy-proposed) [42.3-0ubuntu1]
[14:55] <vorlon> since avifile itself wasn't rebuilt
[15:02] <sil2100> bdmurray: I see ubuntu-release-upgrader is still in kinetic-proposed, blocked on autopkgtests - is this anything worrysome that could affect the jammy SRU?
[15:02] <sil2100> Or just general flakiness?
[15:07] <bdmurray> sil2100: I looked a bit and suspect flakiness because that shouldn't be arch specific at all
[15:08] <sil2100> bdmurray: ACK
[15:09] <sil2100> bdmurray: another question is - along with the changes mentioned in debian/changelog there's also an unmentioned change in utils/demotions.py, addin the handling of old-releases.ubuntu.com archive
[15:09] <bdmurray> that's not question
[15:10] <sil2100> This is basically a non user-functional change, but still a change that could regress runs of demotion updates for next updates. Should this have a separate bug number? Or maybe at least add a mention of it in on e of the bugs already listed?
[15:11] <sil2100> Or you think it's not needed? Guess we'd see if it's broken by having the demotions being botched - but how can we check if those got generated in a sane way?
[15:11] <bdmurray> sil2100: It was necessary as a prerequisite for fixing bug 1975533.
[15:11] <sil2100> They feel sane, but I can't say for sure by just looking at the diffs
[15:12] <sil2100> bdmurray: oh, excellent, could you add some mention about this to he bug then? Is the test case for this bug enough to make sure we didn't regress the demotion updates?
[15:17] <sil2100> Anyway, looking good from the SRU POV. I'd love if you could address those on the bug above ^
[15:17] <sil2100> But no to delay any further, I'll accept it now
[15:17] <bdmurray> sil2100: I'm having a hard time seeing how it could fail but appreciate your concerns. If we don't find the release file at archive.u.c we fall back to checking old-releases.u.c
[15:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (jammy-proposed) [1:22.04.12]
[16:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: coq-quickchick [riscv64] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1.6.3-1] (no packageset)
[17:02] <paride> sil2100, openssh-server is still installed even if "install server" is not selected, I'll update the bug
[17:42] <waveform> sil2100, re: LP: #1923363 it's on my list to look at this week but I haven't got to it yet
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted s390-tools [source] (focal-proposed) [2.12.0-0ubuntu3.6]
[17:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted s390-tools-signed [source] (focal-proposed) [2.12.0-0ubuntu3.6]
[17:53] <sil2100> paride: do you know if there's anyone working on it? I think mwhudson started investigating, but I'd like to know if it's on someone elses radar
[17:54] <sil2100> And if there's any solution ready
[17:55] <bdmurray> sil2100: Have you looked at bug 1980180? While there isn't an SRU yet I think they were looking for feedback on acceptability from us.
[17:58] <sil2100> bdmurray: didn't read all the context yet, I saw Robie involved earlier so was wondering if maybe he could have another look and see if his concerns are addressed
[17:58] <sil2100> rbasak: ^ did you see latest feedback on the bug?
[17:59] <bdmurray> We discussed it at the SRU team meeting and he wants the release team to make a decision as to what the flavors are empowered to do.
[17:59] <sil2100> Anyway, I'll read up the context tomorrow and see if we can get this moving
[17:59] <sil2100> Ah, okay
[18:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: coq-quickchick [armhf] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1.6.3-1] (no packageset)
[18:00] <bdmurray> Its their installer so I think its their decision but one concern I have is if systems installed with calamares from 22.04 will be different than systems installed with calamares from 22.04.1.
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: coq-quickchick [arm64] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1.6.3-1] (no packageset)
[18:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-quickchick [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [1.6.3-1]
[18:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-quickchick [armhf] (kinetic-proposed) [1.6.3-1]
[18:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-quickchick [riscv64] (kinetic-proposed) [1.6.3-1]
[18:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-quickchick [arm64] (kinetic-proposed) [1.6.3-1]
[18:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq-quickchick [ppc64el] (kinetic-proposed) [1.6.3-1]
[18:05] <bdmurray> seb128: Has the desktop team looked at bug 1981611?
[18:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: s390-tools (focal-proposed/main) [2.12.0-0ubuntu3.5 => 2.12.0-0ubuntu3.6] (core)
[18:41] <rbasak> bdmurray: I don't remember discussing calamares - I don't think we got to that agenda item? Or did we briefly discuss it and I've just forgotten? I don't see anything in our notes.
[18:42] <rbasak> But yeah, looking at it with fresh eyes now, I think your summary is a fair reflection of my view anyway. The key thing is that it only affects the installer. If this is definitely the case, then I'm fine with letting the flavour leads figure it out, providing the release team is OK with it.
[18:44] <rbasak> This is assuming that there will be a real improvement to Ubuntu users as a result of the update.
[18:44] <bdmurray> rbasak: Given I had a note on the bug about forming an opinion on the SRU I'm quite certain we discussed it.
[18:44] <rbasak> OK, sorry I've just forgotten
[18:44] <bdmurray> sil2100: I've updated the jammy SRU bugs for ubuntu-release-upgrader.
[18:45] <rbasak> FWIW, I place very little weight on the "it's upstream LTS!" argument in the bug. But the other arguments are OK.
[18:47] <bdmurray> rbasak: Looking at the SRU team meeting for this week I wonder if we should get it officially scheduled with the sprint so we get more attendance?
[18:50] <rbasak> bdmurray: sure if you can arrange that
[18:56] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: oh wow, avifile's test case includes a check to force disabling of neon on armhf because of this issue and somehow that's failing when using libavutil from -proposed
[19:08] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: ok now that I'm testing right I have the test working against -proposed
[19:09] <vorlon> so yes it was actually a problem of a mix of release and -proposed libs from ffmpeg; would be ideal for ffmpeg to tighten package relationships to not let that happen
[19:10] <vorlon> because basically libavutil57 and libavcodec58 don't interoperate despite being coinstallable etc
[19:13] <luis220413> LocutusOfBorg: Please file a Debian bug to tighten the ffmpeg dependencies.
[19:21] <seb128> bdmurray, no, our rls review weekly meeting conflicted with the roadmap sprint today
[19:22] <seb128> it's unclear without investigating why that would trigger a conffile upgrade prompts, there is no reason that file should have been modified by something else on the system
[19:43] <vorlon> seb128: debian/speech-dispatcher.maintscript in the jammy version of speech-dispatcher removes /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/mary-generic.conf but this package version also ships it
[19:46] <vorlon> analysis posted on the bug
[19:47] <seb128> vorlon, thanks
[21:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: yt-dlp (jammy-backports/universe) [2022.06.29-1~bpo22.04.1 => 2022.07.18-1~bpo22.04.1] (no packageset)
[23:44] <Ukikie> So is there any reason to keep wireguard-linux-compat around?  That'll just cause what looks like errors (but only warnings) when installed, functionally has no use.


[07:37] <Kilos> morning theblazehen  and others
[07:39] <mazal> Mornings all
[07:39] <Kilos> hi mazal
[07:40] <mazal> Gaanit oom ?
[07:40] <Kilos> hi Cryterion
[07:40] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:40] <Kilos> dink nog daaroor en jy
[07:40] <mazal> lol
[07:40] <mazal> Okerig dankie.
[07:41] <mazal> Backup eta nou op 18 hours
[07:41] <Kilos> wow
[07:41] <Kilos> se dankie vir eskom
[07:41] <mazal> Looks like it is really gonna take more than 1 day
[07:41] <Kilos> something wrong there man
[07:42] <mazal> Nah is normal for 100mb , my router is the weak link , it's lan is 100mb , not 1Gb
[07:42] <Kilos> oh ok not direct connection
[07:42] <mazal> Nope , stupid OS to Ubuntu server over lan
[07:44] <mazal> I have a 1Gb switch , but don't have a spare power plug and space for it to stand , so sommer use the router's lan ports
[07:45] <Kilos> i was impressed with the speed through a switch
[07:45]  * mazal checks the day's agenda
[07:46] <mazal> eat - play - eat again - play again - check backup progress - play further
[07:46] <mazal> I love winter agendas :)
[07:57] <Kilos> lol
[08:35] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:35] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[08:35] <inetpro> mazal: what's the size of your backup?
[08:36] <Kilos> 1.2TB
[08:36] <mazal> Morning Inetpro , 1.2TB
[08:37] <inetpro> and the connection speed?
[08:39] <mazal> 100Mb
[08:40] <inetpro> hmm... at a maximum of 100Mbps you can expect it to take at least 25.4 hours
[08:40] <Kilos> wow
[08:40] <inetpro> but it'll probably take longer
[08:41] <mazal> The estimate when started was 37 hours
[08:42] <inetpro> if the slowest link is a 100Mbps you'll probaly get more like 80% of that speed, thus more like >30 hours
[08:42] <mazal> Yeah
[08:42] <mazal> Fortunately I'm in no rush. Can't continue working until it's finished lol
[08:42] <inetpro> ai!
[08:43] <Kilos> he doesnt work weekends anyway
[08:43] <Kilos> just sleep eat and play
[08:44] <Symmetria> sup :P
[08:44] <Symmetria> heh, so, for those who are interested
[08:44] <Symmetria> http://server.alstonnetworks.net/global-network.png
[08:44] <Kilos> hi Symmetria
[08:44] <Symmetria> heh, bandwidths arent showing cause that was taken from editor mode
[08:44] <inetpro> wb Symmetria
[08:44] <Symmetria> but that will show you just how large my network is ;p
[08:44] <mazal> Kilos, I actually have a big job waiting
[08:45] <mazal> Hi Symmetria
[08:45] <Kilos> yay mazal  thats good
[08:45] <mazal> I have to clean all this data
[08:45] <Symmetria> lol, thats what you call a *complicated* network
[08:45] <mazal> Need to go through it all dir by dir and see what I actually still need and what can be deleted
[08:46] <mazal> Some of this stuff is coming from the 90's
[08:46] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:46] <inetpro> Symmetria: interesting diagram
[08:46] <Symmetria> haha cleaning my shit up is almost impossible, there is just 2 much of it
[08:46] <Symmetria> so now I just accumulate more and add more disk space
[08:46] <mazal> Lots of old software and games that doesn't even work anymore
[08:46] <Symmetria> ;p
[08:47] <inetpro> and looks like you have a few single point of failures even
[08:47] <Symmetria> lol, last time I checked I had 1.4 million MP3's
[08:47] <mazal> Symmetria, that pretty much somes up my data disk lol
[08:47] <mazal> I need to clean this shees
[08:47] <Symmetria> inetpro heh very few actually
[08:48] <Kilos> your mirror was sick for quite a while Symmetria
[08:48] <Symmetria> remember, you arent seeing a client view there, so clients connected to routers that are spured off are most often connected to other routers as well
[08:48] <Symmetria> kilos yeah that should have been sorted, had raid issues
[08:48] <Symmetria> lol inetpro the scary thing is, almost every link on that picture is 10G
[08:49] <Kilos> ah but you didnt tell us man and you werent here either
[08:49] <inetpro> nicely squeezed to fit on a single page
[08:49]  * Symmetria points at an email client ;p
[08:49] <Symmetria> heh inetpro well, its formatted for a 4K resolution screen
[08:50] <inetpro> Symmetria: what software is used to map it out like that?
[08:51] <Symmetria> inetpro its cacti with a plugin
[08:51] <Symmetria> on the cacti instance it actually live updates every 5 minutes with the traffic levels
[08:52] <inetpro> nice!
[08:53] <Symmetria> heh scary thing about that map, thats just the backbone
[08:53] <Symmetria> there is no human way to fit the whole edge of the network onto a map, because I'd be adding another 2 and a half thousand edge routers/switches to it if I wanted to do that
[08:54] <inetpro> Symmetria: what network is this?
[08:54] <Symmetria> heh thats the liquid backbone
[08:54] <Symmetria> from london all the way to zambia ;p
[08:55] <inetpro> interesting
[08:57] <Symmetria> heh the major pain in the ass with that mapping stuff
[08:57] <Symmetria> is that you have to do the layout manually
[08:57] <Symmetria> so you place all your routers, add all your links, and then add via points to the links to route them around stuff etc
[08:58] <Symmetria> and then associate the links with cacti graphs
[08:58] <Symmetria> it takes *AGES* to put together a map like that
[09:00] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[09:01] <magespawn> hi Kilos
[09:04] <Symmetria> lol so outta interest
[09:04] <Symmetria> I looked at what the month long average of the bandwidth into my house is (actual usage)
[09:04] <Symmetria> and I'm living proof that once you get past a certain point, more bandwidth is pointless
[09:05] <Symmetria> I run an average of 37mbit/second to my house
[09:05] <Symmetria> coupla spikes to like 800 - 900 mbit, but mostly it just ticks away
[09:05] <Symmetria> heh, admittedly if you averaging 37mbit, you probably really need at least 100mbit line, but more than that *shrug* no point
[09:37] <inetpro> Symmetria: wow, only 37mbps average?
[09:38] <inetpro> would be interesting to see that over time as more speed becomes available to the masses
[09:40] <magespawn> i have often thought anything fast enough to stream video would suit most
[09:41]  * inetpro would be happy with 10mbps without any restrictions
[09:45] <inetpro> thinking about it, Symmetria surely your averages would look much different if you only had a 100mbps line?
[09:46] <Symmetria> inetpro lol, possibly, hard to say
[09:46] <inetpro> would probably be maxed out all the time
[09:48] <inetpro> all depends on how much data you actually transfer on a daily, weekly or monthly basis
[11:48] <mazal_> hmmm...
[12:37] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:37] <inetpro> .
[12:37] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[12:37]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[12:37] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[12:37] <Maaz> inetpro: Yessir
[12:37] <inetpro> Kilos: how do we solve our cooking problems?
[12:38] <Kilos> what cooking problems inetpro  ?
[12:38] <inetpro> need some solution for using sustainable energy rather than power or gas
[12:38] <Kilos> thats tough
[12:39] <Kilos> gas was the alternite but very expensive now
[12:39] <inetpro> I think gas is still cheaper
[12:39] <Kilos> see if you can find 12v stoves or hotplates
[12:39] <inetpro> but not sustainable in the long run
[12:40] <Kilos> only way is solar
[12:40] <inetpro> how do you store the energy for use later at night
[12:40] <Kilos> bateries
[12:40] <inetpro> no man
[12:40] <Kilos> batteries
[12:40] <Kilos> only way
[12:41] <inetpro> heat kill batteries very quickly
[12:41] <Kilos> i used solar in utrecht
[12:41] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!
[12:41] <Kilos> no man solar to charge the batteries
[12:41] <Kilos> Maaz  ty
[12:41] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[12:42] <Kilos> http://www.amazon.com/RoadPro-12-Volt-Portable-Stove-Black/dp/B00030DLEE
[12:44] <Kilos> https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.olx.co.za%2Fq%2Fcamping%2Fc-808&ei=9dSXVeyaPIiPU5y6gvAE&usg=AFQjCNGlp7HwFxhhJ3kcH5tqM4i9pSgiTQ&bvm=bv.96952980,d.bGg
[12:44] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:44] <Kilos> https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDUQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dometic.co.za%2Fproducts%2Fmobile-kitchen%2Fovens%2F&ei=9dSXVeyaPIiPU5y6gvAE&usg=AFQjCNE0sqIGMjnunMVafuObLkpBk4o-Jg&bvm=bv.96952980,d.bGg
[12:44] <Kilos> more sjoe
[12:46] <inetpro> hmm... that last link is interesting
[12:46] <Kilos> with our lots of sun solar is the wqay to go but outlay isnt min
[12:48] <Kilos> when i moved here i had lots of gas stuff and used to buy them big gas bottles and refil my smalll ones myself , but gas got expensive
[12:52] <Kilos> we use gas when power out here now. got gas lamps and stoves and smokers etc
[12:53] <Kilos> but mainly cook when power is on
[12:53] <Kilos> electric still cheaper than gas
[12:54] <magespawn> we have a gas stove mainly so that we do not have to think about when we cook etc
[12:54] <magespawn> electricity has always been unstable here in hluhluwe
[13:07] <inetpro> Kilos: did you read that article I tweeted?
[13:07] <inetpro> Elon Musk: The World’s Raddest Man
[13:07] <Kilos> nope dont often open twitter
[13:08] <inetpro> lot's of food for thought
[13:08] <inetpro> http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html
[13:08] <inetpro> very long but worth it
[13:10] <Kilos> ty
[13:15] <Kilos> oh inetpro  that tesla power ball is an option for peeps with money
[13:15] <Kilos> hehe
[13:15] <inetpro> power ball?
[13:16] <inetpro> s/ball/wall/
[13:16] <Kilos> its a storage system
[13:16] <Kilos> Maaz  google tesla power ball
[13:16] <inetpro> yes, but you mount it on your wall
[13:16] <Maaz> Kilos: "Tesla Powerwall - Tesla Motors" http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall :: "Press Kit | Tesla Motors" http://www.teslamotors.com/presskit :: "Tesla's Powerwall Is the Latest Step Toward Our Clean-Energy ..." http://singularityhub.com/2015/05/01/teslas-powerwall-is-the-latest-step-toward-our-clean-energy-future/ :: "Elon Musk Debuts the Tesla Powerwall -
[13:16] <Maaz> YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKORsrlN-2k :: "Why Tesla's Powerwall Is Just Another T…
[13:16] <Kilos> so what
[13:16] <inetpro> not ball
[13:17] <Kilos> i think one would need 2 or even 3
[13:17] <Kilos> oh that ya
[13:17] <inetpro> you can build your own
[13:18] <Kilos> yeah but the cost and time to get it as perfect as teslas makes it simpler to buy one
[13:18] <Kilos> dont forget you need to buy everything to build one too
[13:18] <Kilos> and know exactly how to assemble andset it up
[13:19] <Kilos> but 36k is heavy
[13:20] <Kilos> the tesla one is the best you can get
[13:20] <Kilos> and everything will work, no oops need more cash to try again
[13:21]  * inetpro wbbl
[13:29] <nuvolari> o/ oh hi
[13:30]  * nuvolari peek out from under the blankets
[13:30] <Kilos> hi nuvolari
[13:30] <Kilos> lol
[13:30] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos
[13:30] <Kilos> amper tyd om weer te gaan slaap
[13:30]  * nuvolari is vrot van die verkoue :(
[13:30] <Kilos> ai!
[13:31] <nuvolari> gaan gesond bed toe, staan op met 'n gemors
[13:31] <Kilos> ai!
[13:31] <nuvolari> hoe gaan dit met oom?
[13:31] <Kilos> goed dankie seun
[13:32] <nuvolari> dis mooi oom
[13:32] <nuvolari> word dit al bietjie warmer daar?
[13:32] <Kilos> net al die buntu goed hou my te besig
[13:32] <Kilos> nee man dit vrek koud
[13:33] <nuvolari> dis nie heeltemal so koud hier nie, maar dis koud
[13:34] <Kilos> ja julle minimums is nie so kwaai soos hier nie
[15:38] <Kilos> inetpro  that was very interesting, quite a man elon musk
[16:36] <MaNI> powerwall is like the iphone of batteries, clever move by musk but just riding a new wave of batteries that was coming anyway :p
[17:17] <Kilos> are iphones good or bad?
[17:18] <Kilos> MaNI  ?
[17:36] <MaNI> depends on your point of view/preferences, mostly neither, they're just a device that timed what the market was already about to do anyway really well
[17:36] <Kilos> aha
[17:37] <MaNI> whats known as 'smart phones' now was coming regardless, in the scheme of things the existence of the iphone changed very little - the powerwall is similar
[17:37] <MaNI> 'lifepo' type batteries have been coming and is where things are headed anyway, its a smart move by musk and he will probably make a lot selling them to rich people, but it doesn't really change much in the grand scheme of things
[17:38] <MaNI> thats how I feel about it at least *shrug*
[17:38] <Kilos> well getting in first with anything is always good busines
[17:38] <Kilos> s
[17:39] <MaNI> thats the thing he isn't even first really, there are such things on the market already, as with iphone they weren't really 'first' either
[17:39] <MaNI> its just that because its a new market the initial players have not yet done wildly well
[17:40] <MaNI> they are the first to have the capital/timing/marketing to take advantage of the new market
[17:40] <MaNI> which is of course what matters at the end of the day :p
[17:41]  * Cryterion thinks MaNI should refer to a iPhone as an iCrap instead :)
[17:41] <Kilos> well he seems to have been innovated with quite a few things
[17:41] <Cryterion> an*
[17:41] <MaNI> Cryterion, well I'm trying to remain neutral, I'm not iphone fan but thats not really the point :P
[17:41] <Kilos> lol
[17:41] <Cryterion> lol
[17:42] <Kilos> wb inetpro
[17:42] <Cryterion> I just never had any success with mine, failed on charging it's battery like my nokia did
[17:51] <MaNI> e.g. http://bosch-solar-storage.com/the-solar-power-storage-tank/the-system/ < predates powerwall
[17:52] <Kilos> tell me this tesla car and wall things
[17:52] <Kilos> are they in anyway connected to the tesla of old
[17:53] <MaNI> no, well other than that they use electricity :P
[17:55] <inetpro> thank you oom Kilos
[19:15] <inetpro> .
[19:20] <Kilos> ..
[19:21] <Kilos> hwhy dont you greet him
[19:21] <Kilos> why didnt
[19:21] <Trixar_za> Didn't see him? Oo
[19:21] <Kilos> lol
[19:27] <Kilos> so how is Trixar_za  ?
[19:28] <Kilos> did you ans Squirm  ever manage to get together there
[19:28] <Kilos> s/ans/and
[19:32] <Trixar_za> Yeah - once. He's in Durbs for the weekend though
[19:32] <Trixar_za> Him and nuvolari tend to hang out more
[19:32] <Kilos> yeah i saw
[19:32] <Kilos> aha
[19:34] <Trixar_za> nuvolari also looks like he's turning into a fitness buff. Always up at like 5am to go for a run.
[19:34] <Trixar_za> I should follow his example :P
[19:34] <Kilos> lol
[19:37] <rusbus> Kilos I'm not a lurker, I'm a working man
[19:38] <rusbus> been super busy
[19:38] <rusbus> worked today
[19:38] <rusbus> will work tomorrow
[19:38] <rusbus> will work next weekend
[19:38] <rusbus> etc
[19:38] <Kilos> excuses
[19:38] <rusbus> got home not long ago
[19:38] <Kilos> ah ok then i forgive you
[19:38] <rusbus> :)
[19:39] <Kilos> hehe
[20:00] <inetpro> good night
[20:01] <Kilos> night inetpro  sleep tight
[20:16] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[20:30] <mazal_> Night all


[01:44] <dzho> so is the person doing the Ubuntu BoF known to this channel?
[01:44] <dzho> cf https://ohiolinux.org/schedule/
[01:44] <jenni> [ Schedule 2019 - Ohio LinuxFest ] - https://bit.ly/2xgcvgK
[01:44]  * dzho just registered fwiw
[02:21] <Unit193> Huh, I don't even know that name.
[03:01] <smkellat> Hmm.  Not known under that name on LP, AskUbuntu, or Ubuntu Forums.  Does show up in a DDG as being somebody connected to PyOhio.
[03:03] <smkellat> Most biographical information I can snag is here: https://www.pyohio.org/2018/schedule/presentation/51/
[03:03] <jenni> [ PyOhio | Presentation: Build GUIs with Python and Glade ] - https://bit.ly/2MVK3dZ
[03:03] <smkellat> And the only hint that *that* gives is that the unsub is possibly from Indiana.  Ohio LinuxFest is turning into an event that is not run by people from Ohio.  I find something deeply disturbing in that.
[03:04] <Unit193> Nah man, Indiana is great. ;)
[03:06] <smkellat> After the last six years of being very, very up close and very direct with My Fellow Americans...I really don't know about that anymore.
[03:10]  * smkellat wanders off to try to figure out what he's doing wrong with mkdocs
[09:55] <dzho> well, some of the Pittsburgh crew has long been part of the planning, at least


[20:41] <mup> Issue operator#909 closed: Operator framework locking .unit-state.db breaking charmhelpers kv() functionality <blocked> <Created by dparv> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/909>
[21:30] <mup> Issue operator#688 closed: Move real pebble tests into their own file <small item> <Created by rwcarlsen> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/688>
[21:30] <mup> PR operator#1018 closed: test: separate the real pebble tests into a separate module <Created by tonyandrewmeyer> <Merged by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/1018>
[23:01] <mup> Issue operator#879 closed: Means to test charm upgrade <blocked> <Created by sed-i> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/879>


[00:26] <pleia2> nhaines: any update on group photo availability? :)
[13:39] <harry> Hello
[13:39] <harry> Is anyone online?
[13:40] <Guest52691> Hello
[20:36] <nhaines> pleia2: no, but I'm going to call him today because I was very clear about how quickly we needed everything. :P
[22:30] <ianorlin> nhaines: is this about the person with the photo?


[07:21] <ara> morning all :-)
[08:12] <davmor2> Good Morning Everybody
[08:13] <davmor2> ara: morning you're auto test script is it best to try them in vm or hw?
[08:13] <ara> morning davmor2
[08:13] <ara> davmor2: any of them should work
[08:14] <davmor2> okay cool :)
[09:00]  * ara starts automating dist upgrade
[09:16]  * davmor2 mail finished, burns disk to test install before start on automated
[09:56] <willgreg> hello all
[10:06] <willgreg> hello jouston
[10:08] <jouston> willgreg: Hi
[10:08] <jouston> willgreg: Anything I can help you here sir?
[10:09] <willgreg> Well, I´m trying to isolate a bug on my Ubuntu Install
[10:20] <willgreg> The problem occurs after openning and closing multiples windows and tabs in Nautilus, Firefox, and Opera;  The Desktop seems to partially crash
[10:22] <willgreg> The crash isn complete, mouse still works, but all attempts to launch new software fail
[10:23] <willgreg> I was hoping for advice on how to install 2 or 3 completely seperate ubuntu partitions to isolate the configuration/software that causes this problem
[10:32] <willgreg> Does anyone know how to set up extra Ubuntu installs on the same PC?
[10:35] <ara> willgreg: if you use the desktop cds, it will set up extra space for you automatically. just choose "Guided - use empty space" when asked during the installation
[10:36] <ara> willgreg: it is not a bad idea to save important data before the process, though
[10:44] <willgreg> ara: I have tried the install disc, It may have worked, but it didn´t update Grub correctly...
[10:45] <davmor2> willgreg: Did you do an autoresize?
[10:45] <ara> willgreg: which option did you use?
[10:46] <ara> willgreg: when rebooting, which system starts? the new one or the old one?
[10:47] <willgreg> I have an extra hard-drive, I manually added a partition.  When the install completed and rebooted, there was no option for the new install...
[10:49] <davmor2> willgreg: I think there is currently an issue with grub and second partitions.  You can get around it though by simply going into /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:49] <davmor2> in the install that works
[10:50] <davmor2> and mod it.
[10:50] <davmor2> the other thing is you may of installed grub for the second install on the second hd
[10:51] <davmor2> try booting fro it instead
[10:52] <willgreg> Hey, davmor2, that´s a good idea :) I can try that!
[10:53] <willgreg> Thanks all
[10:53] <davmor2> willgreg: give me to secs and I'll tell you how to mod the menu.lst
[11:07] <ara> davmor2: he didn't :-)
[11:08] <davmor2> ara: I know :(
[12:29] <davmor2> ara: is there noway we could modify the script so it autoran a test.xml?  Reason I ask is you could run the test as in alt-F2 that way
[12:30] <ara> davmor2: well, the final objective is to run those tests with checkbox, once the integration is completed
[12:31] <davmor2> ah okay cool :)
[12:31] <ara> davmor2: but alt+f2 does not accept parameters?
[12:32] <davmor2> I know that's why I say it you could put in a full path and command that ran the test automatically it would be better :)
[12:56] <daaaniel> i'm trying to find out status of intel gma x4500 support on the latest beta, it did not work very well for me on alpha 6 - can someon point me in the right direction?
[15:00] <davmor2> ara: I keep getting an error on todays iso with openall.  Between 1/3 and 2/3's of the way through I'm guessing I get "unable to parse temp_log.xml
[15:01] <mvo> that reminds me, how was the testing day for the upgrades? anything interessting? lots of failure and/or success reports?
[15:02] <ara> davmor2: which one are you running exactly?
[15:02] <davmor2> openAll.xml
[15:02] <davmor2> ara: ^
[15:02] <ara> davmor2: try running them by group of applications
[15:03] <davmor2> will do
[15:03] <ara> davmor2: it usually works better and it is easier to debug if anything goes wrong
[15:04] <davmor2> ara: NP's
[15:04] <ara> mvo: not much about the upgrade process, afraid. but some new people came to give us a hand. I think some one reported something about broken deps, but it seemed related to 3rd party repos
[15:04] <ara> mvo: you can check the logs at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/10/06/%23ubuntu-testing.txt
[15:07] <mvo> thanks ara, I have a look
[15:14] <davmor2> ara: FF opens at the end with http://www.games.html what should it actually do?
[15:14] <ara> it should have opened with the file games.html generated at the path
[16:34] <ara> I have a question about vbox, maybe someone can point me in the right direction. I am running intrepid as a host, and hardy as guest. in order to increase the resolution of my virtual machine, should I install the guest-utils for intrepid or for hardy???
[16:41]  * davmor2 runs vbox to check
[16:52] <davmor2> ara: reading the vbox info you just click on the devices tab in the running window and click on install guest additions
[16:53] <ara> davmor2: yes, I also tried that, but the image seems to give a 404 error
[16:53] <davmor2> ah worked for me in hardy
[17:08] <ara> manually downloaded the iso file and put it under /usr/share/virtualbox in the host machine. that seems to have solved the issue
[17:09]  * ara takes a break before the meeting
[18:48] <davmor2> right I'm off Lugmeeting talk to you all tomorrow
[23:38] <pikwix> stats p


[05:33] <magespawn> good morning
[05:55] <chesedo> morning magespawn and all others
[06:10] <Kilos> morning all
[06:28] <chesedo> morning Kilos, it is getting cold hey
[06:29] <Kilos> yes
[06:29] <Kilos> makes me sad i sukkel in winter
[06:29] <chesedo> lol, i mostly love it
[06:30] <Kilos> ai!
[06:30] <Kilos> already my hands are cold
[06:30] <chesedo> yip, toes too
[06:30] <Kilos> at least we had some rain
[07:05] <inetpro> good mornings everyone
[07:05] <inetpro> oom Kilos, we've had 191mm so far for the month
[07:05] <Kilos> wow
[07:06] <Kilos> maybe next summer will start off better
[07:20] <chesedo> hi inetpro, out of interest what's the total season average?
[07:21] <magespawn> morning inetpro Kilos chesedo
[07:22] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[08:27] <Kilos> hi kmf superfly unlaudable TinuvaMac
[08:31] <superfly> evening
[08:41] <inetpro> hello superfly
[09:12] <nlsthzn> sup y'all
[09:23] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[09:23] <Kilos> same old
[09:26] <nlsthzn> well I hope same old is good old :)
[09:26] <nlsthzn> oh and I actually came back online in a reasonable time ;)
[09:29] <Kilos> lol
[09:29] <Kilos> yeah thats an improvement
[09:43] <nlsthzn> :)
[09:44] <nlsthzn> and I am totally not using KDE currently... nope ...not me... or maybe I am ... *sigh*
[09:49] <Kilos> lol
[09:51] <Kilos> is it so lekker
[09:57] <nlsthzn> roocking 14.04 so kde 4 ftw
[09:58] <Kilos> lol
[09:58] <Kilos> i love it
[09:58] <Kilos> nothing breaks
[09:58] <Kilos> very stable
[09:59] <nlsthzn>  +1
[09:59] <nlsthzn> pity once the devs hit super stable to bugger of in another direction again :p
[09:59] <Kilos> lol
[10:01] <nlsthzn> gnome 2.32 and then kde 4.14.x :'(
[10:06] <superfly> I'm on 16.04
[10:06] <superfly> got tired of the 15.10 plasma crashing all the time
[10:06] <superfly> new font called Noko
[10:12] <nlsthzn> hey superfly
[10:12] <nlsthzn> I will try 16.04 a little bit after release... still something screwy going on in the sound sub-system it seems
[10:13] <nlsthzn> seems the KDE 5 effort is now starting to hit something resembling stability
[10:53] <Wolfeyes> hey everyone
[11:05] <chesedo> hello Wolfeyes, hows server going?
[11:07] <Wolfeyes> server is installed and working with internet, only have to complete the proxy application now.
[11:07] <Wolfeyes> But had a few other clients to attend to first.
[11:09] <chesedo> sounds great :)
[11:12] <Wolfeyes> It is getting there ty chesedo :-), all you guys here played a big part of it.
[11:14] <chesedo> we are glad to help Wolfeyes
[11:15] <Wolfeyes> :-)
[11:23] <zipper> Hey, anyone online
[11:24] <Kilos> hi Wolfeyes zipper
[11:25] <zipper> Kilos: Hey I met a guy from uh Cape Town
[11:25] <Kilos> lol
[11:26] <Kilos> hi qwebirc39461
[11:26] <qwebirc39461> test
[11:26] <qwebirc39461> This is just zipper testing the web interface
[11:26] <Kilos> ok
[11:27] <Kilos> our things work
[11:33] <zipper> For sure
[13:36] <pavlushka> Ki every one, o/
[13:36] <pavlushka> Hi every one, o/
[13:44] <magespawn> hey pavlushka
[13:44] <pavlushka> Hi magespawn !!!!
[13:45] <pavlushka> So how are you?
[13:45] <magespawn> good and you?
[13:45] <pavlushka> jolly good!
[13:46] <magespawn> awesome
[13:48] <pavlushka> Kilos, o/
[13:52] <magespawn> home time, chate later all, cheers
[13:55] <pavlushka> bye magespawn
[14:25] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:30] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[15:30]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[15:34] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:34] <Kilos> Maaz dankie man
[15:34] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[16:05] <Kilos> someone was hear with a vodafone webbook
[16:05] <Kilos> anyone remember who it was
[16:14] <chesedo> Kilos: think it was Xsm
[16:14] <Kilos> nono
[16:14] <Kilos> oh my , was it
[16:15] <Kilos> no
[16:15] <Kilos> was someone else that got it from one of his kids
[16:16] <chesedo> Happy_h
[16:16] <Kilos> yes
[16:16] <Kilos> i wonder what happened
[16:16] <Kilos> oh he found a switch by the battery
[16:17] <Kilos> i dunno why peeps dont stay here
[16:17] <Kilos> just come for help then leave
[16:18] <Kilos> sjoe we have a meeting in 5 nights time
[16:19] <chesedo> yea, know still have to finish agenda and stuff
[16:19]  * chesedo started looking for lugs today to complete his task
[16:19] <Kilos> lol
[16:19] <Kilos> jozilug have visited here now and again but also dont stay
[16:20] <Kilos> and william forgets
[16:20] <Kilos> the cape lugs never appear unles the fly is their rep
[16:21] <chesedo> will finish that tom... will have to pm you for some advice
[16:21]  * chesedo gotta go for now
[16:21] <Kilos> anytime im awake is good
[16:21] <Kilos> go well
[16:21] <chesedo> ty
[16:52] <Cryterion> Hi
[16:52] <Kilos> hi Cryterion
[16:52] <Cryterion> Isn't the topic a bit out of date
[16:53] <Cryterion> Hey kilos
[16:53] <Kilos> oh my
[16:53] <Kilos> inetpro topic please
[16:53] <Kilos> ty Cryterion
[16:53] <Cryterion> Lol
[16:53] <Kilos> i forgot its not feb anymore
[16:53] <Cryterion> Np.  But network I'm on isn't very nice
[18:14] <fusionsparc> evening
[18:14] <Kilos> hi fusionsparc
[18:14] <Cryterion> hi
[18:14] <fusionsparc> How are you guys?
[18:15] <Kilos> good ty and you
[18:15] <superfly> Cryterion: this is actually on my own server. I was just wondering if you knew
[18:16] <fusionsparc> Lots of rain so I'm happy.. :)
[18:17] <superfly> Just started raining here
[18:17] <fusionsparc> ah
[18:22] <fusionsparc> itching to load Kubuntu 15.10
[18:23] <Kilos> rather go 16.04
[18:23] <Kilos> fly had plasma probs
[18:24] <Kilos> or be paitient for a month
[18:24] <fusionsparc> oh...when's the release date again?
[18:24] <Kilos> patient
[18:24] <fusionsparc> ok
[18:24] <fusionsparc> I might do that..
[18:24] <Kilos> must be near end of april
[18:25] <Kilos> Maaz google when is 16.04 release date
[18:25] <Maaz> Kilos: "Xenial Xerus release schedule - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule :: "This Is The Release Date for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - OMG! Ubuntu!" http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/ubuntu-16-04-release-schedule-release-schedule-date-xenial-xerus :: "Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Xenial Xerus - fossBytes" http://fossbytes.com/the-spyware-feature-in-
[18:25] <Maaz> ubuntu-will-be-disabled-in-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus/ :: "List of Ubuntu releases - Wikipedia,…
[18:27] <fusionsparc> Downloading the 16.04 daily release to test in virtualbox..
[18:29] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[18:42] <magespawn> before i was so rudely interrupted
[18:42] <magespawn> did not even notice i was gone
[18:43] <Kilos> lol
[18:44] <Kilos> you been and came again since then
[18:44] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[18:45] <Kilos> haha now the paw arrived
[18:45] <magespawn> yup
[19:12] <magespawn> i like the paw
[19:16] <magespawn> right now just one of me
[19:16] <Kilos> lol
[19:23] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:01] <pavlushka> night all guys!
[21:30] <inetpro> chesedo: hmm.... you have not updated the minutes from last time or created the new agenda yet?
[21:33] <inetpro> chesedo: copied and pasted agenda from last time, feel free to edit...


[03:25] <LubuntuUser> Does anyone know how I can install my lubuntu on my usb hdd in the installer only my internal drive shows up
[12:40] <BlackMage> how names the default panel in lxqt?
[12:50] <kc2bez> The package name for the panel is lxqt-panel
[12:53] <BlackMage> how i can fix the language choose?
[12:53] <BlackMage> it is ever openend down right at the screen
[12:54] <BlackMage> even at the start
[12:54] <BlackMage> how names the config`
[12:55] <BlackMage> ?
[12:56] <BlackMage> in user directory
[12:57] <kc2bez> You have gone past my knowledge here. I only know English. Perhaps someone that changes their language selection will be along to help.
[12:58] <kc2bez> I would look to do it in the graphical interface rather than a configuration file. Sometimes changing a configuration file on a running system does not work well.
[12:59] <BlackMage> omg
[13:00] <kc2bez> The system will revert back to the last thing selected in the graphical interface.
[13:00] <BlackMage> the language choose suddenly appears somewhere and won't go away!!
[13:00] <BlackMage> when i kill lxqt-panel all is gone
[13:01] <BlackMage> but when i reopen it, the language choices reappear where they don't belong at all
[13:01] <kc2bez> You can try right clicking and add a panel back or just restart in the terminal and it should return.
[13:02] <kc2bez> I am not familiar with the language selection process.
[13:03] <BlackMage> yes the panel returns with all the misplaced language selections that I can't get rid of
[13:03] <BlackMage> i use only english
[13:04] <BlackMage> okay, i try a logout


[01:13] <karlox> hi
[01:14] <karlox> we Oscar Coca and carlos ramirez of Manizales University developed a Gervoice
[01:15] <karlox> http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/GERvoice
[01:16] <karlox> but this project was Abandoned
[01:16] <karlox> by we don't have money
[01:18] <karlox> I want to raise funds for further develop any ideas ?
[01:18] <karlox> thanks  for   your help
[08:33] <mdke> carlos_: if I rename a translation team, will it still retain the permissions required to commit to rosetta/Ubuntu
[08:34] <mdke> or anyone
[08:40] <somerville32> mdke, rename the unix name or the display name?
[08:40] <somerville32> mdke, either way, I'm pretty sure it will.
[09:42] <somerville32> Can someone delete this?
[09:42] <somerville32> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/45944/comments/16
[09:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 45944 in ubuntu-docs "Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers" [Medium,Triaged]  - Assigned to Ubuntu Documentation Project Team (ubuntu-doc)
[10:43] <carlos_> mdke: yes, permissions will remain
[11:55] <MenZa> Where does one register a team on Launchpad?
[11:55] <Hobbsee> lp.net/people ?
[11:56] <MenZa> That did it, cheers
[13:28] <frafu> Hello, I have a problem with launchpad: I don't get the email with the link to download the translation files of a project. I am using launchpad unstable, but somebody else that I know to use launchpad stable has the same problem. There is even a bug filed for the problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/160551 Anybody knows how to work around the issue?
[13:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 160551 in rosetta "downloads of single po files or the whole bundle broken" [Undecided,New]
[13:31] <kiko> frafu, talk to carlos and danilos
[13:31] <kiko> they should know!
[13:32] <danilos> frafu: translations are currently delayed a bit, we are working on it
[13:34] <frafu> danilos: ok, thanks. Do you already have an idea when they will again be available?
[13:37] <danilos> frafu: they are available, but they are pretty slow: we estimate a few days of wait (we've got a big backlog right now)
[13:46] <frafu> danilos: i have changed a few strings and requested a download, but did not get the email yet ; in the meantime I changed a few other strings and requested a new download. My question: when the email with the link arrives, will it include the files with all the changes or only the first changes? Will the latter changes will arrive in a email?
[13:46] <danilos> frafu: you should get all changes
[13:50] <frafu> danilos: Sorry, i wanted to ask whether the latter changes would arrive in a second email. But it seems you understood nevertheless.  thanks for the replies.
[16:56] <leonel> my launchpad  account is suscribed to  some lists
[16:57] <leonel> and is suscribed for my teams  in launchpad
[16:58] <leonel> can I unsuscribe  from the mailling list and suscribe another   and there won't be problems with launchpad ?
[20:50] <ubotu> New bug: #160818 in launchpad-bazaar "record branch format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160818
[22:13] <Ubulette> strange.. for the last few days, each of my pushes to my ppa took more than 1h to appear as "Pending(0)", even with all ppa builders idle


[00:00] <RAOF> Maybe?
[00:01] <RAOF> Firmware has the distinction that it's often a binary only in the same way that ubuntu-desktop.iso is a binary.
[00:01] <RAOF> But, hey! Copyright is weird and a stupid thing to apply to software.
[00:01] <Eickmeyer> I'd argue a .cpp library file is the same when xxd is used to encode it.
[00:03] <RAOF> That's certainly an argument you could make. I'm not convinced either way.
[00:05] <RAOF> Ah. That's where the rest of those things are going. Artwork.cpp is also generated the same way…
[00:07] <RAOF> Is it difficult to get filesystem access from lv2 plugins or something?
[00:07] <Eickmeyer> It depends. They're basically libraries that exist in a path for digital audio workstations and plugin hosts.
[00:12] <Eickmeyer> RAOF: But, basically, yes, plugins don't typically have filesystem access.
[00:13] <Eickmeyer> In fact, that's one reason we don't ship any snaps in Ubuntu Studio.
[00:13] <RAOF> Hm. Was this originally in Debian? Is there value in including the old changelog entries (from a non-official Debian archive?)
[00:14] <Eickmeyer> It wasn't originally in Debian, but a French Debian derivitive. I tried to eliminate the old changelog entries that were in French but the person who put them there (in French) objected vocally.
[00:14] <Eickmeyer> So, I translated them, but Lintian didn't like the translated form.
[00:14] <RAOF> Heh. Ok.
[00:15] <RAOF> You use a debian/copyright generator, don't you. That's why it's so granular? :)
[00:16] <Eickmeyer> Actually, I took what was already there and hand-wrote most of it. :D
[00:17] <Eickmeyer> I had to take special care to add the dpf/* items since that was a git submodule that had to be repacked.
[00:21] <RAOF> Ok. Time to go and renew my license. I think the rest is ok (although it's a little weird that both the dragonfly-reverb metapackage and the packages it depends on Provide: lv2-plugin and vst-plugin)
[00:23] <Eickmeyer> RAOF: Have fun. License renewals: I don't envy you.
[00:36] <teward> RAOF: i was pinged.
[00:39] <teward> and am playing catchup
[01:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: containerd (eoan-proposed/universe) [1.3.3-0ubuntu1~19.10.1 => 1.3.3-0ubuntu1~19.10.2] (no packageset)
[03:40] <RAOF> Eickmeyer: Actually, the other thing I'd like to have in there is some documentation as to regenerate the various embedded files would be nice - the various Artwork.cpp files and NotoSans_Regular.ttf.cpp.
[03:40] <RAOF> I don't think I'd block on that, but it's the sort of thing that'd be really nice for anyone who actually wanted to take us up on our offer of being able to modify all our source packages :)
[04:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-10-cross-mipsen [ppc64el] (focal-proposed/universe) [2+c1] (no packageset)
[07:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-10-cross-mipsen [amd64] (focal-proposed/universe) [2+c1] (no packageset)
[07:20] <cpaelzer> hi ubuntu-archive geoip geoip-database and python-geoip are listed as "source and binary movement to universe". This is intentional (we switched to v2) and I'd ask if one of you could please do the change?
[07:20] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: ^^ FYI
[07:22] <seb128> cpaelzer, hey, demoted now!
[07:22] <cpaelzer> thanks!
[07:31] <cpaelzer> rbasak: if you are around it would be nice to ack and push https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/+merge/381289 so that later someone can do the associated demotion and allow the new stable dpdk to migrate
[09:11] <sil2100> RikMills[m], valorie: hey! So I have created the FocalUpgrades page on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FocalUpgrades - could you make sure the Kubuntu upgrade section is good?
[09:32] <RikMills> sil2100: thanks for that. yes will get that done soonish
[09:34]  * sil2100 hugs RikMills
[09:34] <RikMills> grr. I guess libreoffice tests don't very much like it migrating from proposed to release half way through an 8 hr test run!
[10:14] <rbasak> cpaelzer: done
[10:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-10-cross-mipsen [amd64] (focal-proposed) [2+c1]
[10:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-10-cross-mipsen [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [2+c1]
[10:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted what-is-python [amd64] (focal-proposed) [3]
[10:28] <seb128> could someone look at bug #1868927?
[10:29] <seb128> I'm not convinced a FFe is required, it's mostly bugfixes but still since it's up for one I would rather no by pass r-t
[10:35] <Laney> seb128: you can sync that one
[10:37] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[11:06] <doko> sil2100, apw: please ignore the ruby2.5 autopkg test triggered by libffi, we are going to remove ruby2.5 before the release
[11:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pydoctor [amd64] (focal-proposed/universe) [19.11.0+git20200303.47424e7-1] (no packageset)
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pydoctor [amd64] (focal-proposed) [19.11.0+git20200303.47424e7-1]
[12:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rpmlint [amd64] (focal-proposed/universe) [1.11-0.2] (no packageset)
[12:35] <kanashiro> ubuntu-archive: when someone has some time I requested a removal for ruby2.5 here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby2.5/+bug/1869365
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rpmlint [amd64] (focal-proposed) [1.11-0.2]
[12:45] <doko> done
[13:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: oem-somerville-three-eyed-raven-meta (focal-proposed/primary) [20.04~ubuntu1]
[13:42] <Laney> that ^ is for NEWing to main please, under the exception listed in the referenced bug
[13:42] <coreycb> hello, please can someone reject python-pyscss2 and python-django-pyscss2 from the focal new queue? upstream horizon moved back to the original deps so these are no longer needed.
[13:49] <cpaelzer> ubuntu-archive: hiho there is dpdk-doc as "Binary only movements to universe" - as well as as for "libnginx-mod-http-geoip"
[13:49] <cpaelzer> both are intentional and I wanted to ask if someone could do these moves
[13:49] <cpaelzer> dpdk would also free it up in proposed migration to move before the next level of freezes next week
[15:07] <Eickmeyer> RAOF: I'll open an issue with upstream about that.
[15:13] <Eickmeyer> RAOF: https://github.com/michaelwillis/dragonfly-reverb/issues/66
[15:13] <gitbot> michaelwillis issue 66 in dragonfly-reverb "Packaging for Ubuntu" [Open]
[15:56] <xnox> kanashiro:  release team cannot remove packages, normally RM bugs should add ~ubuntu-archive as subscriber
[15:56] <xnox> kanashiro:  and AA did that already now
[16:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oem-osp1 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [5.0.0-1046.51] (no packageset)
[16:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oem [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1079.89] (kernel)
[16:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: poppler [s390x] (focal-proposed/main) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[16:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: poppler [i386] (focal-proposed/main) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[16:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: poppler [ppc64el] (focal-proposed/main) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[16:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: poppler [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[16:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: poppler [arm64] (focal-proposed/main) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[16:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: poppler [armhf] (focal-proposed/main) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted poppler [amd64] (focal-proposed) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1]
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted poppler [armhf] (focal-proposed) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1]
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted poppler [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1]
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted poppler [arm64] (focal-proposed) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1]
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted poppler [s390x] (focal-proposed) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1]
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted poppler [i386] (focal-proposed) [0.86.1-0ubuntu1]
[17:09] <wxl> looks like something is not working right with the iso building today… temporary glitch? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/471010607/buildlog_ubuntu_focal_amd64_lubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz
[17:14] <cjwatson> Yes, should be fixed now
[17:14] <cjwatson> (Rolled back anyway - we haven't completely worked out the underlying cause yet)
[17:15] <wxl> ^ bashfulrobot that affects you, too, so trigger a rebuild on your images
[17:15] <wxl> thanks cjwatson
[17:19] <bashfulrobot> wxl I appreciate hte heads up!
[17:24] <kanashiro> xnox, ok, I did subscribe ~ubuntu-archive
[18:58] <valorie> sil2100: thanks for doing that
[18:58] <valorie> will test shortly
[19:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] (20200327.1) has been added
[19:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected python-django-pyscss2 [source] (focal-proposed) [3.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[19:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected python-pyscss2 [source] (focal-proposed) [2.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[19:16] <teward> Laney: re: gpaste that came over the sponsors list, I took that up and synced it - it's currently sitting in proposed :)
[19:16] <teward> since I saw you ID that there's no need for FFe
[19:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (bionic-proposed/main) [2.525.41 => 2.525.42] (desktop-core)
[19:57] <xnox> kanashiro:  ok cool, sorry that i missread things
[21:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Focal Beta] (20200327) has been added
[21:17] <Eickmeyer> Huh. I didn't think we were going to start seeing beta builds until after beta freeze, but oh well.
[22:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oem-osp1 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-1046.51]
[22:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oem [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1079.89]
[23:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mstflint (eoan-proposed/universe) [4.11.0+1-1 => 4.13.3+2-2~ubuntu19.10.1] (no packageset) (sync)
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mstflint (bionic-proposed/universe) [4.8.0-2 => 4.13.3+2-2~ubuntu18.04.1] (no packageset) (sync)


 Testing
 accacacac
 accacacac-a a a
 telegam-cli is pretty awesome
 all of the things
[00:13] <abrer> catsss!
[00:13] <abrer> ok, all is good.
 @itnet7 cli? I know the Hangups snap has Hangouts in cli
 Discovered hangups a few weeks ago, lurvv it.
 @itnet7 showed me the ropes of telegram-cli
[01:21] <ahoneybun> hangups is on Ubuntu Touch
 Talking about the urwid hangouts app? I'm on Arch here, just compiled from AUR
[01:21] <ahoneybun> no
[01:22] <ahoneybun> it's a google hangouts client for Ubuntu
 @KMyers http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/16/telltales-mr-robot-game-is-disguised-as-the-official-e-corp-messenger-app/
 Oh yeh!
 https://github.com/tdryer/hangups
 Oh I see... Googled it, it uses Dryer's hangups (cli python) wrapped up in QML for touch.
[01:33] <ahoneybun> yep
 Das cooooool. Need some ubuntu touch images for OPX.
[01:36] <ahoneybun> someone is working on them
[01:37] <ahoneybun> https://devices.ubports.com/#/onyx
 Nice :D
 I think Nexus 5 has images, but the screen on my is wrecked.
 I still need to get my hands on a N5
 Running 5x now, but prefer the 5. Felt better. 5x is larger, i like the smaller phones.
 Running the N6P right now
[01:48] <abrer> I r sorta jealous
 I skipped the Nexus 5 and went to the Sony Z Ultra Google Play Edition as I needed a bigger screen
 Just got back from MRI
 @Ivoriesablaze, Is it going to be a boy or girl?
 It's neither now because the radiation killed it
 When will you have the results?
 Apparently 24 to 48 hours, but I have a disc of the images
[02:54] <floridagram> * ahoneybun needs an upgrade
 the Humble Indie Bundle 17 has all Linux games
 @Ivoriesablaze around?
 the heck
 I have two orders of Humble Origin Bundle
 anyone want Dead Space, Dead Space 3, Mirror's Edge on Origin?
 so Windows of course
 The heck... Apperantly Ubuntu is useing /usr/share/sbin instead of /usr/share/bin
 made a symlink of it in the same folder and called the symlink bin.... So I was able to "fix it"
 @RazPi - http://www.pcworld.com/article/3108440/internet-of-things/intel-challenges-raspberry-pi-3-with-tricked-out-joule-board.html . A single board Intel computer that supports RealSense cameras
 A bit pricy
 Yeah a bit but realsense support means it does usb 3 :o
 If it was 150 itd be a nobrainer
 @RazPi, Agreed but the boards have 3 or 4 GB of LPDDR4
 Still expensive but not a bad board to use for embedded things
 Yesh
 And oh geez what didb joel need an mri for
 @RazPi, You have really been under a rock for the past few weeks
 Yeah..
 I hope it wasnt something serious
 He hurt his leg about 10 days ago while at work
 Oh geez
 @Ivoriesablaze you can also make a function return a function and have it keep internal variable state at time of return
 @RazPi so, basically, if it's tangible, you can use it like a variable
 Well maybe a better way to think about it is a function is a block of memory that can be addressed and that address can be passed around as a variable
 Or as the lispers like to say: code is data is code
 In python and many other languages a function is actually an object and you can treat it like one
 Ah, ok, that makes sense, would that work in c++?
 @Ivoriesablaze - how is the leg today?
 @RazPi, So some languages make some functions an object? there is an objectification joke in there somewhere.
 Raz, in most OO languages, you can't pass around a function.  The function gets called and it is determined as a type and value.
 However, you can use Reflection Library in Java6 and java8 has Lambda expressions where you pass functions.
 It's best to just think "I need this type of variable and I know that function provides it".
 There are accelerators though. In a lot of languages everything has a toString() type of method that's automatically called when a string is required.  So that is an exception.
 https://www.humblebundle.com/books/joy-of-coding-book-bundle?mcID=102:57b354a0486e54be7626405f:ot:56de80a6733462ca8968eb5c:1&utm_source=Humble+Bundle+Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2016_08_17_Joy_Of_Coding_Books&linkID=57b4a6381b04d48e7b8b456a&utm_content=cta_button
[22:03] <ahoneybun> mhall119: you got lazy with those tweets, copying from Ubuntu twitter account?
 well, all I know is that I expected a syntax or undefined error and it went through


[11:41] <gunnar> stefg:  Something that makes me wonder,  I can watch DVD's (mplayer) without skipping or jumping.  Kinda weird.  My DVD is IDE  and my hard drive is SATA. Could that make a differance?
[11:41] <NthDegree> willys_fueguino: that is xgl not X
[11:41] <gunnar> rebooting, brb
[11:41] <Daishi> so is 61Hz refresh rate on a laptops lcd cause for concern?
[11:41] <stefg> gunnar: now, shouldn't make a difference
[11:41] <mitch_> whoppix, yeah..
[11:41] <NthDegree> willys_fueguino: xgl is AFAIK not officially supported (please correct me if i'm wrong)
[11:42] <whoppix> mitch_, you read that error msg?
[11:42] <cartur25> mwe: ok thanks, so until I reinstall GRUB, will I just boot to windows with no option to go into linux?
[11:42] <willys_fueguino> NthDegree:  how can I remove it??
[11:42] <mwe> cartur25: yes
[11:42] <mitch_> whoppix, sounds like your display adapater doesn't support..
[11:42] <mwe> cartur25: ubuntu will still be there though
[11:42] <mitch_> whoppix, let me find a list of modes for you... hang on.
[11:42] <zool2005> gdmflexiserver doesn't work, I just get dumped back to a locked screen. Can anyone help please?
[11:42] <whoppix> mitch_, thats strange, im currently using 1280x1024.. ok, thanks
[11:42] <mwe> cartur25: it's just not accessible
[11:42] <toddobryan> NthDegree: Nvm. I thought the "CMOS Setup Utility" was some other program. Trust me, I've looked at all the options in there, but there are about a gazillion, and I've set them to what I think is reasonable, but am not getting anywhere.
[11:43] <Boj> Does anyone know how to change to a lower resolution? Everytime I try changing from 1280*1024 --> 1024*768 it just takes me to the login screen and remains on 1280 :(
[11:43] <NthDegree> willys_fueguino: if you installed xgl (as it isn't naturally there last time i looked) then consult the documentation you used to install with
[11:43] <willys_fueguino> ok...
[11:43] <NthDegree> toddobryan, checked the boot order at all for it
[11:43] <willys_fueguino> thanx NthDegree
[11:43] <mitch_> whoppix,  look at VESA modes here: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html
[11:43] <mwe> Boj: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf after creating a backup
[11:44] <mwe> Boj: I don't know why you get the behaviour you're describing
[11:44] <toddobryan> NthDegree: Yeah. And it doesn't matter what I set. It will only boot from whatever is plugged into IDE1.
[11:44] <mitch_> whoppix, somewhat incomplete list, but worth starting here. Maybe try vga=0x31B?
[11:45] <toddobryan> NthDegree: I set it to CDROM, and if the CD is plugged into IDE2, it just won't boot.
[11:45] <Boj> mwe: Yeah i never had it on 5.10
[11:45] <whoppix> mitch_, ok, im gonna try that :) thx so far, i brb
[11:45] <NthDegree> toddobryan, then try enabling both IDE controller channels
[11:46] <mwe> Boj: you should be able to work around it by editing the file by hand though
[11:46] <Unix_n_Coffee> anyone here familiar to dsl services?
[11:46] <toddobryan> NthDegree: I'll check them. But once I boot into the CD, I am able to install to the hard drive (or at least it seems I am). I'm sure it's something stupid I'm overlooking. :-)
[11:46] <backz> Hey, I can't install libgtk2.0-dev, apt says it depends libxcursor-dev and libxfixes-dev but those will not be installed. why?
[11:47] <popeydotcom> Unix_n_Coffee: what's up?
[11:47] <gunnar> I'm back with : Linux oak 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux,  and my sound dons't skip.  Thank you.
[11:47] <Boj> mwe: Ok I'll have another attempt.
[11:47] <cartur25> mwe: thanks a lot for your help. i hope this works :)
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> backz: are they in different repos that need enabling??
[11:48] <mwe> Boj: put your preferred res at the beginning of the resolution lines
[11:48] <Unix_n_Coffee> popeydotcom, ok in windows my friend this connection thing he has to do to connect to the web and there is a ethernet directly connected to the dsl modem and he doesnt have a router or some hub that has more than 1 more will ubuntu support a dsl modem that doesnt connect to a hub or router?
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> backz: have you installed build-essential?
[11:48] <mwe> Boj: or paste the file at paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I'll look at it for you if you want me to
[11:48] <computer14> hi
[11:48] <whoppix> mitch_, works with that option, thx once more :) all my problems solved for now :)
[11:49] <Tux> help
[11:49] <computer14> hi how is in this chat room
[11:49] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: if the modem has an ethernet interface then yes, it will likely dish out an IP address via DHCP and will work just fine in ubuntu
[11:49] <Unix_n_Coffee> popeydotcom its like a connection thing he has to do to connect to the web
[11:49] <Tux> how do ytou install a binary file?
[11:49] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: in fact that's what I'm using right now
[11:49] <backz> TheGateKeeper, I've dapper (main, restricted, universe, multiverse), dapper-updates (main, restricted, universe, multiverse), dapper-security (main, restricted...) and dapper-commercial (main)
[11:49] <Tux> how do ytou install a binary file?
[11:49] <Tux> how do you install a binary file?
[11:49] <mwe> Tux: dont repeat
[11:49] <mwe> Tux: dont repeat
[11:49] <mwe> Tux: dont repeat
[11:49] <Tux> my bad
[11:49] <Spec> mwe: don't repeat
[11:49] <popey> Tux: what binary file?
[11:49] <Unix_n_Coffee> popey so he wouldnt have to use the dsl account name and password anymore?
[11:50] <backz> TheGateKeeper, yes, build-essential installed.
[11:50] <mwe> Spec: :)
[11:50] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: the modem should have that detail
[11:50] <Spec> mwe: and spell don't correctly =P
[11:50] <Tux> does anyone know?
[11:50] <popey> Tux: what binary file?
[11:50] <Spec> Tutter: install <file> /usr/local/bin
[11:50] <popey> Tux: what are you trying to install?
[11:50] <Unix_n_Coffee> modem in windows makes you dial in
[11:50] <Spec> sorry, that was for Tux
[11:50] <Tux> im trying to install...
[11:50] <azureal> mwe: don't repeat =P
[11:50] <Tux> targetware
[11:50] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: dsl modem?
[11:50] <Spec> azureal: i beat you
[11:50] <smacky> help plz what verison of yahoo messager do i install for ubuntu desktop
[11:50] <mwe> azureal: ;)
[11:50] <Unix_n_Coffee> yes dsl modem
[11:50] <popey> smacky: use GAIM
[11:50] <Unix_n_Coffee> its a spreedstream
[11:51] <azureal> Spec: i'm just repeating =)
[11:51] <Spec> hehe
[11:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> http://images.google.com/images?hs=IvH&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=speedstream&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
[11:51] <smacky> thx popey
[11:51] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: in which case the user credentials are stored in the modem
[11:51] <Tux> file:///home/falco/targetware
[11:51] <mwe> azureal: don't repeat
[11:51] <azureal> rofl
[11:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> popey so i should be all set?
[11:51] <Spec> mwe, azureal: damnit, i said please don't repeat. thanks.
[11:51] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: if the modem has already been proven to work, you should just be able to plug a pc into it and it continue to work, yes
[11:51] <Spec> :p
[11:51] <Tux> can anyone help?
[11:52] <mwe> Tux: what is it?
[11:52] <mwe> Tux: the file
[11:52] <Spec> Tux: not enough information
[11:52] <Unix_n_Coffee> im on a wireless connection :)... my friend wants to try ubuntu.... thanks popey! :)
[11:52] <Tux> what do u mean?
[11:52] <Spec> Tux: open up a terminal and type "file /home/falco/targetware"
[11:52] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: no problem
[11:52] <mwe> Tux: what is it supposed to install?
[11:52] <popey> Tux: a flight sim?
[11:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> just makes me wonder popey why windows wants the account name and password for a new connection
[11:53] <Tux> yeah
[11:53] <Tux> a sim
[11:53] <Tux> flight
[11:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> with a LAN its not needed
[11:53] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: definately ethernet?
[11:53] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: yeah, not needed for a lan, very odd
[11:53] <Tux> can i talk to u guys in a non occupied channel?
[11:53] <mitch_> whoppix, glad to help.
[11:53] <mwe> Tux: be care running random .bin files
[11:53] <azureal> i've just been wondering... how do i get a list of xine fonts, for example?  (xlsfonts is not it, and the families in xfontsel don't contain 'sans', so it can't be there either)
[11:53] <mwe> Tux: chmod +x file.bin then sudo ./file.bin
[11:53] <Tux> what?
[11:53] <popey> mwe: it's not "random", it's an app
[11:53] <Tux> one sec
[11:54] <goonies> can someone please tell me how can i clear my dns cache, theres some things i can connect to online and some things i cant =\
[11:54] <azureal> yea, linux does not like .bin for the most part
[11:54] <Spec> goonies: in firefox?
[11:54] <goonies> well
[11:54] <goonies> everywhere
[11:54] <TheGateKeeper> backz: hmmm don't know apt-cache libxfixes-dev returns info for me how about you?
[11:54] <Spec> what caches dns?
[11:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> well there isnt a router or hub its just a NIC cable port 1 single one has option to connect to a hub or directly to pc , doing directly to pc will ask for a password and account name in windows
[11:54] <Tux> wait
[11:54] <vbgunz> How do you clear a DCRW with Nautilus? I could have sworn I was able to do this... Can someone help me out!?
[11:54] <mwe> popey: I think it's appropiate to issue a warning though
[11:54] <goonies> maybe router, maybe system, beats me =\ tried lots of things already
[11:54] <popey> mwe: sure, but he's told us what it is
[11:55] <popey> mwe: might download and install myself, looks neat :)
[11:55] <mwe> popey: I missed it, what is it then?
[11:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> well ubuntu has a live verson ...we can see if it conencts then and there :)
[11:55] <Boj> What is the name of the default font in Ubuntu?
[11:55] <popey> mwe: http://www.targetware.net/
[11:55] <backz> TheGateKeeper, http://rafb.net/paste/results/V6Ie6e57.html - apt-cache search libxfixes-dev returns: libxfixes-dev - X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extension library (development headers)
[11:55] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: yeah, give that a go
[11:55] <Tux> hey guys?
[11:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> thanks popey! :)
[11:55] <Tux> it's an...
[11:56] <vbgunz> how do i clear a CD-RW in nautilus?
[11:56] <Tux> its a .tgz file
[11:56] <Tux> what do i do?
[11:56] <popey> Tux: I am downloading it now, will tell you in a moment
[11:56] <Tux> thanks
[11:56] <mwe> popey: it does indeed look cool at a first impression at least
[11:56] <Subhuman> Tux, "tar -xvzf filename"
[11:56] <LDZ420> can someone help me import my old firefox bookmarks file back into firefox?
[11:57] <popey> Tux: open a terminal and run "tar zxvf tw_063_lnx.tgz"  if that's the name of the file
[11:57] <Tux> ok
[11:57] <shiv> how do I upgrade from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.06.1
[11:57] <popey> Tux: that will uncompress the contents - like unzipping
[11:57] <Spec> err, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[11:57] <popey> shiv: there's a 6.06.1!?
[11:57] <Subhuman> shiv, theres no such version as 6.06.1
[11:57] <shiv> hold on
[11:57] <Subhuman> shiv, the "version" numbers are dates
[11:57] <shiv> it shows on distrowatch
[11:58] <NthDegree> there's a 6.10 methinks
[11:58] <Subhuman> 6th month, 2006.
[11:58] <Subhuman> next release
[11:58] <Tux> this is what i got
[11:58] <Tux> Subhuman next release
[11:58] <Tux> oops
[11:58] <Subhuman> is the 10th month, 2006, so therfore 06.10
[11:58] <Tux> tar: tw_063_lnx.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[11:58] <Tux> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:58] <Tux> tar: Child returned status 2
[11:58] <Tux> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:58] <cerda> anyone who uses kguitar or tuxguitar???
[11:58] <Spec> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.1/
[11:58] <shiv> see here http://distrowatch.com/
[11:58] <mwe> Tux: it's not a .bin file
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> backz: sorry don't know :-(
[11:58] <popey> Tux: what is the tgz file called you have?
[11:58] <backz> TheGateKeeper, thank u =)
[11:58] <Tux> tw_063_lnx.tgz
[11:58] <Subhuman> ahh shiv
[11:59] <mwe> Tux: tar ztvf file.tgz too see what it provides
[11:59] <ych> yay twinview :D
[11:59] <Subhuman> thats jus the download with the current updates
[11:59] <Tux> for file do i put the file name?
[11:59] <vbgunz> anyone know how to clear a cd-wr in nautilus?
[11:59] <Subhuman> as long as you use update manager youll be using .1
[11:59] <popey> ych: stoppit! I'll have to buy another screen!
[11:59] <popey> :)
[11:59] <Tux> for "file" do i put the file name?
[11:59] <Subhuman> vbgunz, can you not jus delete them?
[11:59] <Subhuman> Tux, yes
[11:59] <ych> unfortunately my video card only allows 2 screens at a time, otherwise i'd be running 2 :)
[11:59] <vbgunz> Subhuman: I tried... I couldn't :(
[11:59] <Tux> ok
[11:59] <ych> 3 i mean
[12:00] <ych> 2 monitors and a tv
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> backz: I just waisted your time sorry, hopefully someone will be in a better position to help, especially if you can find a developer :-(
[12:00] <ych> but oh well
[12:00] <Tux> ar: tw_063_lnx.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[12:00] <Tux> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:00] <Tux> tar: Child returned status 2
[12:00] <Tux> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[12:00] <Tux> all i got
[12:00] <mwe> Tux: it's not present in your working dir
[12:00] <mwe> Tux: type ls
[12:00] <Tux> ok
[12:00] <Consty> When a wireless access point has a ' in it, I believe its conflicting and having a problem connecting.  Anyone know a way around this problem?
[12:00] <Tux> ok
[12:00] <mwe> Tux: where did you download it to?
[12:01] <Melio> the word "ok" is emo
[12:01] <backz> TheGateKeeper, np man! thank u for your patience... I only need to compile gnucash to try it... thank u =)


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