[12:53] <pace_t_zulu> morning wrst
[12:57] <wrst> morning pace_t_zulu how you doing?
[12:57] <wrst> average_guy: did you have any luck?
[12:58] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i'm well ... how are you
[12:58] <wrst> doing well halfway to a 3 day weekend!
[12:58] <average_guy> wrst:I'm getting there. Boots to a prompt now..
[12:59] <wrst> average_guy: if you read the wiki on getting xorg going you will be in good shape
[12:59] <wrst> its provides really good instructions on graphic card drivers etc
[13:00] <average_guy> yeah, thats where I'm at.
[13:01] <average_guy> Arch is pretty cool. Reminds me of pretty much every distribution 10 yrs ago
[13:01] <average_guy> Is not hard to set up. Just slow.  The documentation is suprisingly easy to find
[13:35] <wrst> yeah average_guy the key thing about arch is that you have only what you want so it makes for a much quicker system but it isn't for everyone
[13:36] <average_guy> oh yes, I diggin it :)
[13:37] <wrst> got X going yet average_guy?
[13:38] <average_guy> no, still working on the bootloader
[13:38] <average_guy> it didn't see my xubuntu partition
[13:38] <average_guy> and I now have burg
[13:41] <wrst> hmm average_guy I actually used grub2 in arch and installed the os-prober from the aur and it works really well, much better than ubuntu's patched grub 2
[13:42] <wrst> but grub in arch is pretty simple should just be a simple edit to the menu.lst and you should be in xubuntu glory
[13:45] <average_guy> thats what I had to do, then installed burg from xubuntu to get the graphical boot interface
[13:46] <wrst> i'm not a huge grub2 on ubuntu fan but on arch its winning me over
[13:50] <average_guy> why not? Is easy to customize, looks good, supports everything.. whats not to like?
[14:16] <average_guy> wrst:got x to load
[14:17] <wrst> cool average_guy :)
[14:17] <average_guy> can't log in fir sum reason tho :(
[14:17] <wrst> average_guy: you set up a user?
[14:18] <wrst> oh and can't log into what? :)
[14:18] <average_guy> no, still working as root for now
[14:18] <wrst> ok what can you not log into average_guy?
[14:19] <wrst> gdm/kdm that kind of thing?
[14:20] <average_guy> I cant log into x, I could log in just fine before I changed the runlevel but now that I at the little X login screen, it won't let me past
[14:20] <wrst> so startx doesn't work from the cli? or do you have something in rc.conf that starts x?
[14:21] <average_guy> no no, I modified inittab to start runlevel 5
[14:22] <average_guy> now I'm staring at a login screen I cant get past
[14:22] <wrst> average_guy: why did you do that?
[14:23] <average_guy> seemed like the thing to do at the time?
[14:23] <wrst> ha ha average_guy what login manager are you using?
[14:23] <average_guy> ??
[14:23] <wrst> average_guy: that's not the best way to do it
[14:23] <average_guy> idk
[14:23] <wrst> display manager?
[14:24] <average_guy> x
[14:24] <wrst> average_guy: i would put that back as you had it
[14:24] <wrst> average_guy: what desktop are you going to eventually run?
[14:24] <average_guy> xdm is wut I got xfce is where I'm trying to get
[14:26] <wrst> yeah average_guy you need to install xfce and xdm and have xdm as a startup module in rc.conf
[14:26] <wrst> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce
[14:26] <wrst> you will also need to start dbus
[14:27] <wrst> #rc.d start dbus but to have it work automagically you need dbus in the modules in rc.conf
[14:27] <wrst> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Manager
[14:27] <wrst> i'm guessing xdm is available but not for sure I've never dallied in xfce but any display manager will work
[14:28] <average_guy> ok, getting it un-broken right now
[14:29] <wrst> you shouldn't have to mess with run levels at all unless you just really want to
[16:45] <Xpistos> Hey, do any of you guys know anything about openswan?
[16:58] <wrst> average_guy: any luck?
[16:58] <wrst> hey Xpistos!
[16:58] <Xpistos> Hey
[17:23] <average_guy> wrst: takin a break from it, kid just got home
[17:24] <wrst> ahh enjoy
[19:06] <Xpistos> is there a way to label an external hard drive by its UUID
[19:09] <cyberanger> Xpistos: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[19:10] <Xpistos> Thank you sir
[19:10] <cyberanger> and look for the device & matching uuid
[19:10] <Xpistos> Roger
[19:10] <wrst> hello cyberanger
[19:10] <cyberanger> hey wrst
[19:10] <Unit193> sudo blkid will show you them :P
[19:10] <wrst> and Unit193 :)
[19:11] <cyberanger> Unit193: but it has to be installed for that
[19:12] <Unit193> wrst: Howdy
[19:12] <Unit193> cyberanger: It is in newer versions of Ubuntu
[19:13] <Unit193> I personally like sudo fdisk -l better
[19:14] <Xpistos> brain fart
[19:14] <Xpistos> format ext
[19:15] <Xpistos> mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc# right
[19:15] <Xpistos> w
[19:18] <Xpistos> cyberanger: that is telling me that /dev/sdc/7dc8490d-b5a1-40c4-9edb-dcd64bc6a19e is not a directory
[19:19] <Xpistos> does it need to be mounted somewhere first?
[19:35] <Xpistos> Okay how about this. I have three usb drives. I have a backup script saving to /mnt/email-backup. I want the usb drives to auto mount to /mnt/email-backup. How can I do that?
[19:37] <Xpistos> or would it be better to set a cron job to mount -a say 10 minutes before the backup starts
[19:49] <cyberanger> that's saying what? I think your misreading your output, can I see
[19:50] <Unit193> Command |pastebinit   type thing?
[20:37] <Xpistos> YEAH! I totally understand crontab now
[20:38] <cyberanger> Xpistos: glad you understand cron better, can I see your output from ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[20:38] <cyberanger> I think it's off
[20:38] <Xpistos> doesn't matter
[20:38] <Xpistos> what he wanted was wrong
[20:39] <cyberanger> you didn't want automount by uuid
[20:39] <cyberanger> ?
[20:41] <cyberanger> Xpistos: what was wrong?
[20:46] <Xpistos> I was told to label the hard drive as it's uuid
[20:47] <Xpistos> but what he wanted was for the drive to be mounted to the same mount point
[20:47] <Xpistos> so I set fstab to mount both UUID to the same directory
[20:47] <Xpistos> then crontab mounat -a at 11 pm
[20:48] <Xpistos> and umount the drive at 3 am
[20:48] <Xpistos> the backup script will run at 11:05 and finish by 12
[20:48] <Xpistos> so when the people come in the next day they pull the drive and put in the new one
[20:48] <Xpistos> easy peasy, lemon squeshy
[20:50]  * cyberanger hands Xpistos a peice of wood to knock on
[20:50]  * Xpistos knocks on his head
[20:51] <Juzzy> http://i53.tinypic.com/2a9uogm.jpg <-- our production cluster
[20:54] <Juzzy> 20:1 production vm ratios most all are full production servers. Labs, QA, DR are different ones
[22:18] <cyberanger> man, a friend got in pcmag :-D
[22:18] <cyberanger> (relating to android rooting on the T-Mobile G2)
[22:18] <Unit193> That's great! For a good thing I would hope
[22:20] <cyberanger> yeah, good effort into a guide for rooting the G2 (after many folks including himself & myself spent a month working out the bug in the NAND drive)
[22:20] <Unit193> Was there ever something from Paul Tagliamonte?
[22:24] <cyberanger> I don't recognize that name
[22:24] <cyberanger> perhaps he's got an IRC nick?
[22:26] <Unit193> paultag
[22:30] <cyberanger> think I also saw that nick, yeah
[22:32] <cyberanger> http://www.esecurityplanet.com/network-security/Defending-Against-The-Apache-Killer-Exploit-3939081.htm
[22:37] <cyberanger> Unit193: yeah, another active one in the #g2 channel (when the NAND issue was big) more active than me
[22:42] <Unit193> He was the first to hack one of the nooks I think
[22:42] <Unit193> First or second for something
[22:46] <cyberanger> I've not got the full article, so idk if he's in it or not (but now that you say that, I do recall hearing about the nook)


 Just another Tuesday lockdown but that doesn't affect me much. You?
[07:53] <duflu> It is still Tuesday right?
[07:53]  * duflu has to check
[07:56] <seb128> duflu, it is indeed! I'm alright, had a decent night though a bit short
[07:56] <seb128> Trevinho, hey, what's the status of uploading gnome-shell to finish the new GNOME transition in impish-proposed?
[07:59] <ricotz> hey didrocks seb128
[08:00] <duflu> Sounds like that might take a while if dash-to-dock/ubuntu-dock is on the critical path. I'd say don't wait for that, just do vanilla gnome-shell first
[08:01] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you?
[08:01] <seb128> duflu, that doesn't work though, things aren't going to migrate out of proposed until those are ported
[08:02] <laney> heya
[08:02] <duflu> Hi laney
[08:03] <duflu> seb128, I take it the option to replace those extensions didn't happen :((
[08:03] <ricotz> seb128, I am fine :), thanks, hoping you are not much of a soccer fan
[08:03] <ricotz> hey laney
[08:03]  * ricotz is waiting for gnome-shell too
[08:04] <didrocks> hey ricotz, seb128, laney
[08:04] <seb128> duflu, getting traction upstream is taking time as usual, it's not ruled out, just not happening yet
[08:04] <seb128> lut didrocks , hey laney
[08:05] <seb128> ricotz, I do watch some games sometime but not really not so I'm alright :)
[08:08] <ricotz> yeah, so much sports to choose from :)
[08:21] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk, didrocks, seb128, laney
[08:22] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[08:22] <oSoMoN> bien, et toi?
[08:23] <seb128> nickel
[08:24] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[08:25] <KGB-0> librsvg Sebastien Bacher 246163 * commented merge request !14 * https://deb.li/Kxee
[08:27] <laney> hi duflu ricotz didrocks seb128 oSoMoN!
[08:29] <seb128> oSoMoN, could you push the upstream/2.50.7+dfsg tag ?
[08:29] <KGB-0> librsvg tags a3010bd Olivier Tilloy upstream/2.50.7+dfsg * Upstream version 2.50.7+dfsg * https://deb.li/3PJ20
[08:29] <oSoMoN> seb128, done
[08:29] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
[08:30] <KGB-0> librsvg upstream/latest 55bd55a Sebastien Bacher * pushed 32 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3xBQM
[08:30] <KGB-0> librsvg upstream/latest 2996994 Federico Mena Quintero rsvg_internals/src/ css.rs document.rs io.rs * Use data_url::mime::Mime instead of a String in BinaryData.mime_type * https://deb.li/bcuy
[08:30] <KGB-0> librsvg upstream/latest aaf5bfd Federico Mena Quintero rsvg_internals/src/document.rs * Extract function to munge a MIME type for gdk-pixbuf * https://deb.li/39XR4
[08:31] <KGB-0> librsvg upstream/latest ba63ec1 Federico Mena Quintero rsvg_internals/src/document.rs * (#699) - Add tests for MIME type conversions for gdk-pixbuf * https://deb.li/KXaV
[08:31] <KGB-0> librsvg upstream/latest 7c0c441 madds-h rsvg_internals/src/ filters/component_transfer.rs filters/convolve_matrix.rs number_list.rs * (#691) Replace NumberList::Unbounded with NumberList::MaxLength * https://deb.li/3CFDg
[08:31] <KGB-0> librsvg upstream/latest 0fd2bc0 madds-h rsvg_internals/src/number_list.rs * Remove support for NumberList::Unbounded * https://deb.li/c8Av
[08:31] <KGB-0> librsvg pristine-tar c3b00bf Olivier Tilloy librsvg_2.50.7+dfsg.orig.tar.xz.delta librsvg_2.50.7+dfsg.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for librsvg_2.50.7+dfsg.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/o2pN
[08:38] <seb128> laney, jamesh, marcustomlinson, weekly discourse reminder
[10:22] <laney> heh, just saw that
[10:22] <laney> I guess I did it a bit after, sorry
[11:14] <seb128> small fyi but https://launchpad.net/~albertomilone/+archive/ubuntu/nvidia-testing has nvidia 470 beta drivers which include support for wayland
[11:16] <seb128> for those who feel like testing (it current would require to manually comment the rule in /lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules that disable it or to ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules)
[11:18] <seb128> also we current don't have accelerated xwayland but that's going to come at some point, I've heard t_jaalton had to bring those changes on his todolist ;-)
[11:21] <oSoMoN> now I almost wish I had nvidia hw !
[11:58] <laney> don't get too excited, it doesn't work
[11:58] <laney> for me anyway
[11:58] <laney> Jun 29 12:36:46 raleigh gnome-shell[3946]: Failed to open gpu '/dev/dri/card0': Failed to activate universal planes: Operation not permitted
[11:59] <laney> Jun 29 12:36:46 raleigh gnome-shell[3946]: Failed to create backend: No GPUs found
[11:59] <laney> :-)
[12:01] <seb128> :(
[14:25] <KGB-2> glib tags 2848a11 Iain Lane upstream/2.68.3 * Upstream version 2.68.3 * https://deb.li/7mWF
[14:25] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest 617909e Iain Lane * pushed 20 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iWowy
[14:25] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest 463b714 Мирослав Николић po/sr.po * Update Serbian translation * https://deb.li/pml4
[14:25] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest e9587a4 Pawan Chitrakar po/ne.po * Update Nepali translation * https://deb.li/3jpAD
[14:26] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest f954aff Ignacio Casal Quinteiro glib/gmacros.h * gmacros: check that __cplusplus or _MSC_VER is defined * https://deb.li/1oIj
[14:26] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest 1816c1e Sebastian Dröge glib/gmacros.h * Merge branch 'nacho/gmacros' into 'glib-2-68' * https://deb.li/aoLd
[14:26] <KGB-2> glib upstream/latest 7d392d7 Ignacio Casal Quinteiro glib/gmacros.h * gmacros: missing check if __STDC_VERSION__ is defined * https://deb.li/3Mt6V
[14:26] <KGB-2> glib pristine-tar 63e85cb Iain Lane glib2.0_2.68.3.orig.tar.xz.delta glib2.0_2.68.3.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for glib2.0_2.68.3.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3BliR
[15:06] <seb128> ricotz, hey, did you find that commit?
[15:16] <seb128> laney, so the nvidia/wayland error, do you have kms on?
[15:16] <seb128> (question from t_seliot, I should have asked him here directly)
[15:18] <ricotz> seb128, I am hoping so, a build is currently running to confirm it
[15:19] <seb128> ricotz, like down to one commit and you did a gcc build with a revert see if it's really fixing it?
[15:19] <ricotz> seb128, yes
[15:20] <seb128> wooot, hopefullfy that work out :-)
[15:21] <ricotz> there is a gcc-9 package with the specific revert at https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/debug/+packages
[15:21] <ricotz> and libreoffice building against it https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/debug-1/+packages
[15:21] <seb128> libreoffice build is 3 hours in so we should know in a few hours right?
[15:22] <ricotz> the armhf build will take like 10+ hours
[15:22] <laney> ricotz: do you want access to an arm64 aws instance? just realised I could import your ssh key to one of those
[15:23] <laney> I guess that might have been helpful like 2 weeks ago, sorry
[15:24] <ricotz> laney, don't worry, let's see if the build confirms the commit
[15:25] <laney> ok, no 4 cores for you :p
[15:25] <ricotz> this is still the first step to figure things out
[15:25] <laney> tseliot: how do I check the kms?
[15:25] <laney> I didn't do anything special so I'm guessing not
[15:25] <seb128> ricotz, well, once we have a commit doko might be able to check on the gcc side
[15:25] <ricotz> laney, so it might still be needed at some point :)
[15:26] <ricotz> seb128, yeah, I have two libreoffice builds running to have some interchangeable binaries for further pin pointing in libreoffice itself
[15:26] <laney> ah nvidia-drm.modeset=1?
[15:27] <tseliot> laney, yes
[15:27] <laney> let me check that
[15:27] <laney> it'll be turned on by default at some point I guess
[15:27] <tseliot> so /sys/module/nvidia_drm/ something to check the parameters
[15:28] <laney> ah yeah there's a modeset file with a big 'N' in it
[15:29] <laney> man
[15:29] <tseliot> for now we enable it when in on-demand mode as long as your NVIDIA GPU supports runtimepm. It's fine to enable it manually
[15:29] <laney> my plymouth doesn't look awful any more
[15:29] <laney> I guess this is working
[15:30] <tseliot> yes, switching it on by default probably makes sense for the 470 release
[15:30] <laney> ok yeah that was it, w00t
[15:31] <seb128> \o/
[15:31] <seb128> tseliot, thanks for the hint!
[15:31] <tseliot> yw
[15:31] <seb128> another change to track on the road to 470 there
[15:32] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop-testing tags daad4c5 Simon McVittie upstream/2018.1+git20210629 * Upstream version 2018.1+git20210629 * https://deb.li/jR5U
[15:32] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop-testing upstream/latest 896135e Simon McVittie * pushed 18 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iQe8c
[15:32] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop-testing upstream/latest 0447403 Simon McVittie src/gnome-desktop-testing-runner.c * Factor out test_log() to wrap sd_journal_send * https://deb.li/x4iz
[15:32] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop-testing upstream/latest cd78f8f Simon McVittie src/gnome-desktop-testing-runner.c * Output messages by default if stdout is not the Journal * https://deb.li/3lRcs
[15:32] <seb128> tseliot, I created https://trello.com/c/2y7k8fpk/257-enable-wayland-on-new-nvidia-drivers so we keep visibility on the work needed
[15:33] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop-testing upstream/latest 802cfd2 Simon McVittie Makefile-tests.am configure.ac src/gnome-desktop-testing-runner.c * Make libsystemd optional again * https://deb.li/9lhv
[15:33] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop-testing upstream/latest 5fbc602 Simon McVittie src/gnome-desktop-testing-runner.c * Add a TAP output mode * https://deb.li/35eyn
[15:33] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop-testing upstream/latest 4decade Simon McVittie configure.ac * Merge tag 'v2018.1' * https://deb.li/Bmk7
[15:33] <laney> we should have something about any prime work that's needed
[15:33] <tseliot> seb128, yes, I noticed. It's good to keep track of things
[15:33] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop-testing pristine-tar c1bc254 Simon McVittie gnome-desktop-testing_2018.1+git20210629.orig.tar.gz.delta gnome-desktop-testing_2018.1+git20210629.orig.tar.gz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-desktop-testing_2018.1+git20210629.orig.tar.gz * https://deb.li/Pm2e
[15:34] <seb128> laney, ^ trello card, I will make a checklist of the items
[15:34] <laney> yeah good, adding it to that card would be fine I guess
[16:52] <KGB-0> glib-networking tags 50457e9 Iain Lane upstream/2.68.1 * Upstream version 2.68.1 * https://deb.li/3b96U
[16:52] <KGB-0> glib-networking pristine-tar aa5e713 Iain Lane glib-networking_2.68.1.orig.tar.xz.delta glib-networking_2.68.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for glib-networking_2.68.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/F0GD
[16:53] <KGB-0> glib-networking upstream/latest d8e9116 Iain Lane * pushed 74 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3fHjz
[16:53] <KGB-0> glib-networking upstream/latest 5c24534 Fran Dieguez po/gl.po * Update Galician translation * https://deb.li/MUMR
[16:53] <KGB-0> glib-networking upstream/latest d611069 Kukuh Syafaat po/id.po * Update Indonesian translation * https://deb.li/i4fRv
[16:53] <KGB-0> glib-networking upstream/latest b3f017a Philipp Kiemle po/de.po * Update German translation * https://deb.li/7wwh
[16:53] <KGB-0> glib-networking upstream/latest 3317671 Michael Catanzaro tls/gnutls/gtlsconnection-gnutls.c * gnutls: Fix check for certain handshake failure conditions * https://deb.li/3FfYc
[16:53] <KGB-0> glib-networking upstream/latest 09485fc Michael Catanzaro tls/base/gtlsconnection-base.c * Replace successful_posthandshake_op with successful_read_op * https://deb.li/aHrC


[05:27] <cypherbios> Hi folks. Someone here knows how is extracted the strings from xml/docbook files of the documentation to an .pot file for translation, using gettext?
[05:29] <LaserJock> we use xmltopo
[05:29] <LaserJock> or xml2pot I think actually
[05:29] <cypherbios> LaserJock: humm, thank you. I'll take a look at both
[05:32] <LaserJock> xml2po -e -p
[05:42] <cypherbios> LaserJock: it worked. I've extracted some .pot files from xml using xml2pot original.xml > messages.pot. Thank you