[01:23] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[01:23] <ailean> Ubuntu recognises ethernet connections and networks much more easily than windows does
[01:23] <jenda> rukuartic: yup... that's a big minus. But for ether-folk, it's all good.
[01:23] <rukuartic> It works with wireless, just a bit difficult. They're fixing that in dapper.
[01:23] <ali_> Kwipper: then again ive got an old belkin wifi card, wouldnt work wiv xp, works fine on ubuntu
[01:23] <roryy> hope seveas' pastebin can handle 64k files
[01:23] <Seveas> roryy, should work
[01:23] <ali_> though speed was reduced
[01:23] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: Tried many times. Doesnt work. "Broken pipe" error
[01:23] <ben_underscore> rukuartic, i disagree with that
[01:23] <roryy> Seveas: cool beans
[01:24] <rukuartic> Znortfl: Try "sudo apt-get clean" and redownloading it
[01:24] <rukuartic> ben_underscore: They're not fixing it in dapper/
[01:24] <gnomefreak> isnt it libc6-dev?
[01:24] <lsuactiafner> 2.6.12 is a bit old
[01:24] <gnomefreak> not libc6-devel
[01:24] <cerberus> Does anyone know why modem lights wouldn't be visible in the list of applets available to add to a gnome panel?
[01:24] <ben_underscore> rukuartic, whoops, sorry i just read your subsequent comment & retract my comment
[01:24] <Znortfl> rukuartic: Sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get -f install?
[01:25] <rukuartic> ben_underscore: Haha no prob
[01:25] <ailean> This XGL stuff is maturing now, eh?  It's pretty good.
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: the package is libc6-dev
[01:26] <rukuartic> Znortfl: apt-get clean removes the download and then tries getting it again... that might fix it. Don't know if you need the -f though. "sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install <packages>"
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: you were trying to install libc6-devel
[01:26] <Znortfl> gnomefreak, rukuartic: doesnt work
[01:26] <ali_> for anyone in UK, i will be holdin a ubuntu stand at bletchly park during the july computer fair, givin out free copies, hopefully....
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: type sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[01:26] <rukuartic> ali_: Whoo. Go for you.
[01:27] <freakabcd> ali_, dapper cds ?
[01:27] <ali_> freakbsd: hopefully
[01:27] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: same error
[01:27] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: do me a fav and paste the command and error to pastebin please
[01:27] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: just about to do that
[01:27] <freakabcd> ali_, i'm not bsd!! ;)
[01:27] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: its dutch thoguh
[01:28] <ali_> so im gunna setup a chat room, for noobs at he show, would b nice for some members to come on and giv anvise
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Seveas: is there a way to translate on pastebin?
[01:28] <ali_> advise*
[01:28] <freakabcd> ali_, are you really in uk? advice is the uk version iirc
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: you could always try #ubuntu-de
[01:29] <ali_> *really sorry*sorry keyboars batts are going flat
[01:29] <ailean> #ubuntu-nl
[01:29] <er4z0r> http://pastebin.com/676646
[01:29] <Znortfl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12770
[01:29] <ali_> at the moment
[01:29] <er4z0r> what is LC_ALL needed for?
[01:30] <MrIron> When I try to apt-get remove, evolution mail, gaim etc, it also wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, why?
[01:30] <gnomefreak> not sure but i think that is all the locales
[01:30] <firestorm> Howdy. How can I convert a PS document from landscape to portrait before printing
[01:30] <cerberus> ubuntu desktop is just a dependancy list, it's alright to remove it
[01:30] <ali_> Freakabcd, at the moment, i move around alot
[01:30] <freakabcd> ali_, ah ok.
[01:30] <MrIron> cerberus: so Its just to remove?
[01:31] <bananasontoast> Hey guys, how are we? I've just installed ubuntu onto my laptop and booted in for the first time, but I can't seem to be able to get my wireless network configured. I think this is because the wireless device is activated by a hotkey that only works in windows. Does anyone know if there would be a way around this?
[01:31] <cerberus> It isn't actually a package just a list of packages (simplification) but it's fine to remove it
[01:31] <MrIron> okey;)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[01:31] <ali_> freakabcd, going to east london, south africa, for 5 days 2morrow :-) no braodband :-(
[01:32] <freakabcd> heh.. good
[01:32] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: gimme a sec
[01:32] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: ok ill brb while your doing that
[01:32] <rukuartic> bananasontoast: What type of card is it, internal or plugged in?
[01:32] <rukuartic> bananasontoast: your sn makes me hungry btw
[01:33] <Jimmey__> bananasontoast, as far as I know, the hot keys work with Ubuntu aswell.
[01:33] <ali_> bye guys, gotta charge this bloody keyboard again!!!
[01:34] <bananasontoast> rukuartic, internal... My laptop is this: http://au.lge.com/md/product/prodcategorylist.do?actType=detail&currPage=1&categoryId=0200000045&parentCategoryId=0200000603&categoryLevel=4&productId=1100000768&productImage=&selectModel=1100000768
[01:34] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12772
[01:35] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: ok is that file still open?
[01:35] <CokeNCode> hmmm, can anyone tell me what is up with wine?
[01:36] <CokeNCode> and why the darn package never downloads completely on the first go?
[01:36] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: tell me what to modify
[01:36] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: the very first line says deb cdrom  infront of word deb put a #
[01:37] <Hexidigital> good morning everyone
[01:37] <rukuartic> bananasontoast: Try typing "lspci" in gnome-terminal
[01:37] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: theres more that wasnt all
[01:37] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: will post again,sec
[01:38] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12773
[01:38] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: on the rest of the lines that start with the word deb take the # away from it and when it says universe at end of line add a space than the word multiverse
[01:39] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: hold on ill fix it for you so you can replace it with yours
[01:39] <rukuartic> bananasontoast: That'll give you a list of PCI devices on your system. See if you can find your wireless card.
[01:39] <gnomefreak> replace yours with this one
[01:39] <bananasontoast> rukuartic, http://pastebin.com/676657
[01:40] <Hexidigital> does anyone know how much space will be consumed by installing all available packages? (and if there's an aptitude command for it?)
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: this is what your sources.list should look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12774
[01:41] <martyn> What is the best word proc. for linux , thats not open office
[01:41] <gnomefreak> abiword
[01:41] <gnomefreak> martyn: ^^^
[01:41] <rukuartic> bananasontoast: Ok, I think it found it there... but it doesn't know what it is XD
[01:41] <Capdav> hi
[01:41] <Jimmey__> where are my firefox bookmarks?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: when your done changing it to look like that please save  and paste it to pastebin please
[01:42] <rukuartic> bananasontoast: From what I understand, most wireless cards need a piece of software called "ndiswrapper" to get it working. What it does is take a windows driver and let linux talk with it.
[01:42] <jguenth> Is there an ubuntu-channel just for shouting YEAH!!! ?
[01:42] <martyn> gnomefreak: do feel that is better than or same as word
[01:42] <roryy> Jimmey__: $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/<something>.default/bookmarks.html
[01:42] <rukuartic> Jimmey__: ~/.mozilla/firefox/(find it from nere)
[01:42] <gnomefreak> martyn: i use OOo writer so i wouldnt know about word
[01:42] <bananasontoast> rukuartic, okay sounds like it makes sense...
[01:43] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: I copy-pasted mine over yours
[01:43] <roryy> Jimmey__: $HOME is your home directory (Places -> Home; .mozilla is a hidden directory, use Ctrl+H to make it visible
[01:43] <freakabcd> jguenth, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:43] <bananasontoast> rukuartic, I'll download and compile it, give me a minute?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: you need to paste mine in place of yours
[01:43] <martyn> gnomefreak: ok thx
[01:43] <roryy> martyn: what sort of docs are you going to be writing ? normal, technical ?
[01:43] <jguenth> Just testes the last things on my laptop with the Dapper Beta and now I have WLAN, Suspend-to-disk, suspend-to-ram an I can turn my fans of by hand.
[01:44] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: I did
[01:44] <jguenth> And I only needed one howto and google for wlan.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: save close and than run sudo apt-get update
[01:44] <jguenth> suspend out of the box is really a great thing.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> jguenth: #ubuntu+1 is the dapper channel
[01:45] <martyn> roryy: well both am at uni doing Computing trying to get away from Microsoft but i hate the look and feel or Openoffice
[01:46] <rukuartic> bananasontoast: Should be on the CD -- try apt-getting it
[01:46] <roryy> martyn: for technical documents, consider TeX.  There's a fairly 'friendly' front-end for it in the ubuntu repositories called Lyx.  For someone doing Computer Science TeX is entirely appropriate, considering it's history ;).
[01:47] <martyn> roryy: thx mate
[01:47] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: let me know of errors with update upgrade and libc6-dev ;)
[01:47] <Hexidigital> um... i think i just did something very bad... i think i used aptitude to delete all packages from my system
[01:47] <roryy> oops
[01:47] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: sec
[01:48] <JDahl>  martyn, Lyx is not that great, imo... if you can figure out, e.g., to write HTML code in an editor, then you can also write LaTeX without LyX
[01:48] <martyn> JDahl: NOT WRIGHT htML LOL AD JUST CODE THAT IN NOTE PAD IF I WAS LOL
[01:48] <freakabcd> err.. vim + latex
[01:48] <freakabcd> :)
[01:48] <gnomefreak> martyn: i would try what was suggested and make your own coice ;)
[01:49] <gnomefreak> choice*
[01:49] <lsuactiafner> !grub
[01:49] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:49] <freakabcd> martyn, if you're going to be involved in any sort of 'paper' submissions, etc. you might want to take a long hard look at latex
[01:50] <martyn> gnomefreak: well i just install abie word it loos good and io can use .doc with it
[01:50] <gnomefreak> martyn: should beable to use .doc but off hand i dont remember if it is supported i dont use them much anymore
[01:50] <bananasontoast> rukuartic, I've installed it now, what is next?
[01:51] <JDahl> martyn, I didn't quite catch that... what I mean is that for someone used to programming (and writing LaTeX docs), LyX is more a burden than a real help
[01:51] <FaithX> jSomeone around who has time to chat about usermodelinux?
[01:51] <Pupeno> What do I have to do to play a divx, I have installed the gstreamer plug in, yet, kaffeine doesn't play it.
[01:51] <Pupeno> is there some server to re-start ?
[01:51] <martyn> JDahl; its just as a replacment for WORD
[01:52] <Znortfl> gnomefreak: libc6-dev is now working, nuked glibc-devel
[01:52] <JDahl> martyn, Lyx? I never thought of that as a replacement for WORD - more like a graphical frontend to LaTeX
[01:52] <mrmiyagi> can anybody tell me if there's something special i need to know about the way ubuntu handles java's CLASSPATH enviroment variable?
[01:53] <rukuartic> bananasontoast: Sorry I gotta go mate...
[01:53] <Pupeno> JDahl: I am a programmer but I don't know Latex and I don't have the time to learn it now (more interesting things to do, like, prgoramming), so I use LyX and I love it.
[01:53] <freakabcd> martyn, as for plug-in replacement for 'Word' then neither of OOo and abiword work unfortunately
[01:54] <Pupeno> JDahl: lyx is sometimes more than a front-end to LaTeX and sometimes less. It is not a Word-replacement (OOo is) but something different for people that choose to work differently.
[01:54] <mrmiyagi> ive setup the classpath env-var in .bashrc but it doesn't seem to work, if enter the classpath directly into javac -classpath it works
[01:54] <Pupeno> how do I get new gstreamer plug-ins to work ?
[01:54] <roryy> mrmiyagi: make sure you export the variable
[01:57] <stjepan> initializing modules failed at boot... it says: "/sbin/lrm-manager: command not found".  What's wrong here??
[01:57] <mrmiyagi> roryy, thanks alot :-) that did the trick :-P
[01:59] <roryy> stjepan: lrm-manager is part of linux-restricted-modules-common -- have you uninstalled this package ?
[01:59] <mrmiyagi> roryy, just out of curiousity (im, as u probably can tell) not 100% on top of how exactly enviroment variables work on linux/unix, wut exactly happens when u export (i mean, i could echo the variable before the export, and like, see wut it contained n' all (which was why i suspected it like, might have been renamed or sumthing :-P)
[01:59] <masquerade> q: i have a problem with bluetooth, my phone recognizes the computer for a while and after some data transfer it doesn't
[01:59] <unikuser> q: how can I disable mysql-server to start automatically at boot time? sth like chkconfig in fedora? I have seen in services gui, but mysql-server  does not exist  there.
[01:59] <roryy> mrmiyagi: it means the variable will be passed to 'child' processes, like the java runtime
[02:00] <roryy> mrmiyagi: check out 'help export' in the bash shell
[02:00] <stjepan> roryy, tnx
[02:00] <mrmiyagi> will do, thanks a lot for the assistance :-)
[02:01] <Kwipper> Heya guys
[02:01] <ailean> can I mount /mnt/windows under "Computer"?
[02:01] <ailean> hey Kwipper
[02:02] <ailean> u under the live cd now?
[02:02] <masquerade> ailean, what do you mean 'computer' ?
[02:02] <ailean> in gnome, on the Places menu
[02:02] <masquerade> ailean, that is just a short cut
[02:02] <ailean> click on computer, you'll see CD drives and the FileSystem
[02:03] <ailean> oh right
[02:03] <roryy> ailean: my windows mount appears there; i've mounted in under /media/hda1, not /mnt/hda1, though
[02:03] <bigfoot1> so in nautilus, when i start typing onto my keyboard it will find a file that starts with the letters i've typed. Question is: how do i do a "Find Next"?
[02:03] <ailean> ah, there's an idea - thanks roryy
[02:04] <freakabcd> ailean, as roryy says all the mounts under /media will show up there
[02:04] <ailean> freakabcd, i did not know that :)
[02:04] <maskd> bigfoot1: im pretty sure that feature doesnt exist
[02:04] <ailean> still a newbie
[02:04] <A[D] minS> i want to resize " / "
[02:04] <freakabcd> ailean, all of us are :)
[02:04] <A[D] minS> so what can i do
[02:04] <maskd> bigfoot1: oh wait! try the up and down arrows on your keyboard
[02:05] <shreevatsa> Hi, is there ever a reason to use "apt-get upgrade" instead of "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[02:05] <ailean> i'm very excited about the XGL stuff I have going on, and wine running my windows progs
[02:05] <bigfoot1> maskd: you did it!
[02:05] <maskd> :)
[02:05] <bigfoot1> maskd: did you just guess that?
[02:05] <masquerade> ailean, just manually go to the place which you want to show up in the link and 'Bookmarks'->Add Bookmark
[02:05] <bigfoot1> is that parst of some manual?
[02:05] <bigfoot1> parst--> part
[02:05] <maskd> bigfoot1: nah just guessed it
[02:05] <__user__> shreevatsa: check the manual, actually it is NOT the same
[02:05] <bigfoot1> how did you learn that?
[02:05] <maskd> just played around a little bit
[02:06] <bigfoot1> I think that should be part of every Ubuntu/Linux Welcome Manual, don't you think?
[02:06] <bigfoot1> maskd: thanks
[02:06] <jenda> Is there a third pty app that allows automatic desktop cycling? Say picking a new random desktop from a directory on startup?
[02:06] <shreevatsa> __user__, I know, they aren't the same; but isn't dist-upgrade better in all ways? Why would anyone use upgrade?
[02:06] <neillzero> maskd, bigfoot1: that won't find the next thing that matches what you typed. (on breezy(
[02:06] <maskd> neillzero: im using dapper beta
[02:06] <bigfoot1> neillzero: it works for me
[02:06] <bigfoot1> i'm using dapper too
[02:06] <maskd> must be a newly added thing then
[02:06] <__user__> shreevatsa: do you know what you are doing ?
[02:06] <freakabcd> grr.. you guys on dapper beta.. i'm still on flight6+
[02:06] <bigfoot1> i asked the question here because i thought it would be a general ubunu thing.
[02:07] <neillzero> maskd: for me it just goes to the next file, regardless of name, and filter
[02:07] <bigfoot1> maskd: yeah, must be a new addition to gnome
[02:07] <shreevatsa> __user__, quote "dist-upgrade *in addition to performing the function of upgrade*, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages" (from the apt-get manpage)
[02:07] <imbrandon> freakabcd: just do a apt-get dist-upgrade ;)
[02:07] <bigfoot1> neillzero: i guess it's time for you to upgrade to dapper 8-)
[02:07] <masquerade> q: i have a problem with bluetooth, my phone recognizes the computer for a while and after some data transfer it doesn't
[02:07] <freakabcd> imbrandon, not now.
[02:07] <freakabcd> i'll wait another week or so
[02:07] <__user__> there should not be changing dependencies in a stable release
[02:07] <maskd> its pretty rock solid for a beta i reckon
[02:07] <shreevatsa> __user__, I've always been using dist-upgrade all these years (two), I suddenly am curious why "upgrade" exists
[02:07] <neillzero> bigfoot1: hehe, i think it is, i just seem to have broken my packages in breezy
[02:08] <bigfoot1> neillzero: do it, dude
[02:08] <bigfoot1> i did it 2 days ago
[02:08] <maskd> nah its better to download an iso, means you dont have to redownload as many update
[02:08] <bigfoot1> my P3 1Ghz computer runs faster
[02:08] <freakabcd> wow.. how far? 400m or 800m or marathon?
[02:08] <freakabcd> :p
[02:09] <maskd> cant believe how good wine has gotten, grabit installed without a hitch
[02:09] <imbrandon> heh your 1ghz dosent run faster bigfoot1, you just dont have a hod windows os eating all the cpu cycles
[02:09] <bigfoot1> http://www.lifehacker.com/software/text/geek-to-live-list-your-life-in-txt-166299.php#c98650 says that appending ".log" onto a txt file will have it append dates when i open the text file. i can't get it to work.
[02:09] <neillzero> bigfoot1: prefer to try to get to the bottom of the dependencies problem first. the same thing's going to happen eventually on dapper.
[02:09] <Otacon22> i have to intall the directx 8 for wine to play some games for windows, anyone con help me?
[02:09] <bigfoot1> imbrandon: i mean faster than breezy
[02:09] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, that's for windows, IIRC
[02:09] <Otacon22> i know where download but i don't know how install
[02:09] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: you read the article?
[02:09] <maskd> imbrandon: i find things normally "load" faster in windows, but you just leave them open because linux memory management is far better than windows
[02:10] <CokeNCode> hmmm, i'm running phpbb2, but it's giving me errors because I don't have a mail server set up, what's the easiest way to set up a mail server on ubuntu ?
[02:10] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, yes, just now (but after that comment ;) )
[02:10] <freakabcd> bigfoot1, sounds like an editor specific thing
[02:10] <imbrandon> CokeNCode: apt-get install postfix
[02:10] <freakabcd> thats not a system provided facility
[02:10] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: so we can't get the ".log" renaming to auto-add date?
[02:11] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, that only works with notepad
[02:11] <bigfoot1> freakabcd: maybe. i guess i should read the article again
[02:11] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: is that right?
[02:11] <freakabcd> if you really want a version control system, why not use svn or arch or bazaar or such?
[02:11] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, besides, you can always see the access-time, modification-time, etc, with ls
[02:11] <bigfoot1> can't believe Windows' notepad is better than linux
[02:11] <freakabcd> somewhere in between is lame
[02:11] <maskd> 6 virtual workspaces full of programs/windows and only using 300mb of ram :o
[02:11] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, huh? Some obscure feature makes it better? :p
[02:11] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, I'd call it a bug; a text editor shouldn't do such things! :)
[02:12] <bigfoot1> well,i have a plain text file that i use as a journal/diary. when i open it up, it would be cool if it could auto-add the daet
[02:12] <bigfoot1> datee
[02:12] <bigfoot1> date
[02:12] <Erika> ciao
[02:12] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, you can do that with, say, emacs. You'd probably have to type "M-x insert-date" or something like that :)
[02:12] <bigfoot1> i switched from gedit to leafpad as my basic text editor.
[02:12] <maskd> bigfoot1: Edit > Insert Date & Time ;)
[02:13] <freakabcd> as i said waaaay earlier.
[02:13] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: in that case, it would be faster for me to type in the date
[02:13] <maskd> oh nm
[02:13] <bigfoot1> manually
[02:13] <freakabcd> some obscure _editor_ feature!
[02:13] <needlz_> hey, does anyone have a thinkpad? for the xorg configuration, which keyboard model should i use? pc104, pc105? any other model? thanks
[02:13] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, no no; I meant you can make emacs auto-insert that line when you open that file
[02:13] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: oh i see
[02:13] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: use an "alias tgedit='date >> file; gedit file' "
[02:13] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: isn't emacs a programmer's tool?
[02:13] <ferronica> so any one help me
[02:14] <Erika> ciao
[02:14] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: pardon me?
[02:14] <ferronica> i cant boot my Xp from GRUB
[02:14] <martuz> ciao!!!
[02:14] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: emacs is a text editor
[02:14] <bigfoot1> Frogzoo: i'm no geek, please speak english 8-)
[02:14] <ferronica> NTLDR missing
[02:14] <Erika> ciao wi!!
[02:14] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, emacs is just a text editor; you can use it for programming if you want
[02:14] <freakabcd> emacs?
[02:14] <Erika> k casino!!!
[02:14] <martuz> ciao wi!
[02:14] <martuz> miii|
[02:14] <freakabcd> who the heck said its a programmer's tool?
[02:14] <Erika> maria ci capisci qualcosa???
[02:14] <maskd> bigfoot
[02:14] <axisme> any error, ferronica?
[02:14] <martuz> si si si certo certo
[02:14] <freakabcd> emacs can browse the web, read email!
[02:14] <martuz> :-)
[02:14] <ferronica> yes
[02:14] <freakabcd> its crazy :)
[02:14] <ferronica> NTLDR missing
[02:15] <Erika> chi e matto scusa??
[02:15] <gnomefreak> all text editors are programmers tools in a sense but i would stick with calling it a text editor
[02:15] <__user__> freakabcd: IMHO emacs is overbloated :p
[02:15] <bigfoot1> emacs does alll that?
[02:15] <ferronica> when i choose Xp
[02:15] <Frogzoo> emacs is a text editor, an operating system, and a kitchen sink
[02:15] <ferronica> Foom GRUB
[02:15] <martuz> bo...kiediglielo....;-)
[02:15] <Erika> hi!!
[02:15] <freakabcd> now thats a word to describe it:: 'overbloated' :p
[02:15] <ferronica> do i need some changes in menu.list
[02:15] <martuz> hello...
[02:15] <bigfoot1> freakabcd: he could have just said "bloated"
[02:15] <Erika> who spak italian??????'
[02:15] <freakabcd> bigfoot1, emcs does a whole lot more!
[02:15] <gnomefreak> !it
[02:15] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:15] <axisme> does it not load at all?
[02:15] <roryy> !it
[02:15] <Erika> speak...
[02:15] <freakabcd> !it
[02:15] <Kwipper> BTW. Here's a suggestion for Ubuntu. When you're tyring to play media, and it says you don't have the proper codecs installed, it would be nice if Ubuntu would bring up a list of codecs you can download so that you can play the file you want to play.
[02:15] <maskd> #ubuntu-it
[02:15] <axisme> did ubuntu find it during setup?
[02:16] <Omeg> Hi all. I've installed Quake on my Ubuntu system and downloaded two binaries that would allow me to run the game under Linux. But when I attempt to start it, I get an error message that says "Segmentation fault" in the terminal.
[02:16] <Omeg> Any suggestions?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> axisme: can i make a suggestion?
[02:16] <axisme> sure
[02:16] <ferronica> yes
[02:16] <martuz> si si ;-)
[02:16] <roryy> Kwipper: there are legal reasons that the codecs are not installed.  See easyubuntu for a way to easily install the codecs
[02:16] <CokeNCode> WOW THANKS !
[02:16] <CokeNCode> That was really easy
[02:16] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, here you go
[02:16] <ferronica> it shows me Xp
[02:16] <HymnToLife> Kwipper> since most codecs are non free, doing so would be illegal in some countries
[02:16] <gnomefreak> axisme: if your talking to ferronica  dont bother her issue is a windows issue and wont go to windows for help
[02:16] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, look at http://www.geocities.com/kensanata/dot-emacs.html and search for date
[02:16] <Kwipper> Yeah, but MP3 is a given
[02:16] <axisme> oh right
[02:16] <HymnToLife> nope
[02:16] <roryy> Kwipper: mp3 is a given legal problem
[02:16] <Omeg> roryy:  it _would_ be nice if Ubuntu gave you a quick and easy method to turn on universe and multiverse at the same error dialog, though.
[02:16] <Kwipper> On the MP3 Live CD I can't even play Mp3
[02:16] <HymnToLife> mp3 is a non free format
[02:17] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: yikes , ijust opened up emacs. it's intimidating
[02:17] <ferronica> no its ubuntu issue
[02:17] <Omeg> Or at least explain why the files cannot be played.
[02:17] <ferronica> bcoz my Xp is allright
[02:17] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, relax :)
[02:17] <ferronica> to boot Xp i hav to change boot device from CMOs
[02:17] <Kwipper> Okay. If I did want to play MP3 files in Ubuntu, how would I do it?
[02:17] <ferronica> thats it
[02:17] <freakabcd> omg! behold the great interface
[02:17] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, think of it as "Notepad with a trillion other features" :)
[02:17] <bigfoot1> i'm a leafpad user
[02:17] <neillzero> dependencies: I tried installing libreadline5, but had to uninstall.  Now, previously installed packages complain that they depend on libreadline5 (i'm pretty sure they need libreadline4 only)
[02:17] <gnomefreak> ferronica: for the _last_ time NTLDR is not a ubuntu issue
[02:17] <freakabcd> ok, i'll hold off the sarcasm for a while
[02:17] <HymnToLife> !tell Kwipper about mp3
[02:17] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: would i need anything more than just notepad?
[02:17] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, (which it is, anyway)
[02:18] <bigfoot1> i'm just typing my journal.
[02:18] <bigfoot1> no special thing is needed
[02:18] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, well, Emacs *is* for typing
[02:18] <__user__> bigfoot1, if you dont use emacs, why dont just purge it ?
[02:18] <__user__> and stick with vi, nano, etc
[02:18] <freakabcd> yes, yes. DO IT!!
[02:18] <ferronica> ok i agree
[02:18] <ferronica> and now now listen me
[02:18] <bony> there is a 64 bit system on which i installed dpper-drake 32bit and i see most of the apps are running slowly there is a 256MB ram in it. apps like gimp komba2 etc. Is it because i installed 32bit ubuntu on 64bit system ?
[02:18] <imbrandon> vi
[02:19] <bigfoot1> __user__: actually i don't use vi, nano either.
[02:19] <bigfoot1> __user__: i use leafpad
[02:19] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, so what do you use? gedit?
[02:19] <bigfoot1> a plain and simple text editor
[02:19] <roryy> bigfoot1, freakabcd, etc.: please take the editor wars to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:19] <freakabcd> nono..
[02:19] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: leafpad, which is even simpler than gedit
[02:19] <ferronica> if i choose boot Xp from CMOS directly
[02:19] <bigfoot1> roryy: i'm in no war
[02:19] <freakabcd> this aint no war. and its no editor we are discussing ;)
[02:19] <xerophyte>  if we place a file in /etc/pam.d do i have to restart it .. if so  how ??
[02:19] <ferronica> then y that time it boot it
[02:19] <__user__> darn gui :p
[02:19] <ferronica> no ntldr missing
[02:20] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, ok, whatever. The feature is there in Emacs if you want it; and it can do everything leafpad can (I'm sure ;)
[02:20] <Kwipper> It seems I would have to use terminal in order to get the MP3 codecs.
[02:20] <Kwipper> This is not good.
[02:20] <HymnToLife> bigfoot1> something plainer and simpler than nano ? gotta check it ut :p
[02:20] <ferronica> if something wrong in Xp it shud not boot
[02:20] <bigfoot1> HymnToLife: yes, check out leafpad
[02:20] <bigfoot1> HymnToLife: but it's gui
[02:20] <axisme> ferronica, are you booting from two different hard drives?
[02:20] <HymnToLife> Kwipper> nop
[02:20] <ferronica> yes
[02:20] <HymnToLife> you can install them through Synaptic too
[02:20] <__user__> ferronica: what does your grub cfg look like ?
[02:20] <ferronica> i hav 3 HDD
[02:20] <jenda> what's the best pdf reader for Ubuntu? Evince takes very long to display a page of the 600-page Jazz RealBook...
[02:20] <roryy> Kwipper: google for easyubuntu
[02:20] <Kwipper> Oh okay
[02:20] <gnomefreak> ferronica: NTLDR = NT BOOT LOADER NT = windows platform
[02:20] <HymnToLife> but you'd better get used with the terminal, it will be your best friend on Linux
[02:20] <ferronica> ok agree
[02:20] <__user__> active +1...
[02:20] <roryy> jenda: afaik you can get adobe's reader from multiverse
[02:21] <HymnToLife> after Frozen Bubble of course :p
[02:21] <freakabcd> jenda, how about kpdf or even simpler: xpdf ?
[02:21] <needlz_> im trying to get the 's etc working on my ubuntu 5.10 installation. after logging into the shell it works perfect (changed it with dpkg-reconfigure locales), but when i start enlightenment with startx the $'s dont show up. does anyone have a idea? the xorg.conf is here http://pastebin.ca/50673
[02:21] <jenda> roryy: and will it be any better? I'd love to have it FOSS...
[02:21] <gnomefreak> ferronica: we can not tell you how to get it back this is _not_ a windows support channel
[02:21] <jenda> freakabcd: I'll try xpdf...
[02:21] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, just put the lines in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12776 in your .emacs, and you can insert the date by typing "Ctrl-c, i"
[02:21] <needlz_> also ~ doesnt work, i guess its a problem with the keyboard model
[02:21] <freakabcd> yup xpdf is very lightweight
[02:21] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, But if you're attached to leafpad, I don't know...
[02:21] <gnomefreak> now please as said for last 3 days join #windows see if they can help
[02:21] <roryy> jenda: in my experience adobe's reader has the best quality screen output
[02:21] <freakabcd> although you could say that of evince and kpdf nowdays as they just use the poppler lib
[02:22] <jenda> freakabcd: lol... xpdf is MEGAbetter
[02:22] <HymnToLife> lmao, there actually is a #windows channel ?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: yeah its ##windows
[02:22] <bigfoot1> where do i insert that exactly?
[02:22] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: ?
[02:22] <ferronica> i told u my Xp is allright nothing wrong
[02:22] <ferronica> if i boot xp alone
[02:22] <jenda> roryy: It's just sheet music - need to find the page I want as fast as possible to print it out...
[02:22] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, In your home directory, there will be a hidden file called ".emacs"
[02:22] <__user__> ferronica: partition not active...
[02:22] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, Just put it at the bottom of that file
[02:22] <ferronica> it works no ntldr missing
[02:22] <gnomefreak> ferronica: than why does it say your missing ntldr?
[02:22] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: ok
[02:23] <bigfoot1> i'll try it out, shreevatsa thanks
[02:23] <jenda> HymnToLife: I could burst out laughing when I first noticed it...
[02:23] <axisme> is it set as hd0 or hd1 in grub conf?
[02:23] <BrianB04> Morning all.
[02:23] <HymnToLife> especially on FREEnode :p
[02:23] <ferronica> when i boot my computer via ubuntu
[02:23] <__user__> ferronica: http://www.aboutdebian.com/dualboot.htm
[02:23] <bigfoot1> shreevatsa: is it called " .emacs.d " ?
[02:23] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, No, that's a directory
[02:23] <ferronica> then ubuntu sho me Os choice
[02:23] <needlz_> HM
[02:23] <needlz_> :)
[02:23] <shreevatsa> bigfoot1, It's just called ".emacs"
[02:23] <needlz_> has anyone even read my question?  Take the time to read the tutorial, and you'll learn to love one of the best editors ever! :)
[02:24] <bigfoot1> is there a list of all the new changes in Dapper's gnome
[02:24] <freakabcd> #e for users, #edevelop for e devels
[02:24] <needlz_> roryy: i guess its not a problem of enlightenment, its the xserver
[02:24] <__user__> ferronica: as I told you ages ago.. non-active.
[02:25] <needlz_> (i think so)
[02:25] <beta_m> how do i compare two ascii files in ubuntu... i know there is a command, but i don't remember what it is
[02:25] <needlz_> beta_m: diff
[02:25] <jenda> roryy, freakabcd thanks, adobe is very good too, but I think xpdf wins with me. lightweight, fast and FREE
[02:25] <beta_m> needlz_:  thanks
[02:25] <needlz_> beta_m: np
[02:25] <freakabcd> jenda, sweet. another happy xpdf user
[02:26] <g1gaman> how can i add a keyboard switcher to panel?
[02:26] <CokeNCode> hey, which linux tool can I used to open .zip files ?
[02:26] <imbrandon> unzip
[02:26] <__user__> ferronica: you can test out prior saving; reboot: enter the grub cmd modus; rootnoverify (hdX,Y); makeactive; chainloader +1; boot
[02:26] <jenda> oh yeah...  BTW, a very good friend of mine (female!!!) wants to switch to Ubuntu... I feel we are going to win this war afterall...
[02:27] <pschulz01> Greetings.. trying to find  <sys/io.h> in breezy...
[02:27] <__user__> it WILL work if you set the HDD and the partition correct.
[02:27] <jenda> g1gaman: right click panel, add to panel, keyboard switcher
[02:27] <freakabcd> jenda, why did you say 'female' was that relevant in that sentence?
[02:27] <ferronica> my win Xp is in SATA drive
[02:27] <ferronica> not in IDE
[02:27] <g1gaman> jenda, :) no, it is not like that
[02:27] <roryy> pschulz01: install the build-essential package
[02:27] <axisme> ferronica
[02:27] <pschulz01> The software that I am trying to compile works in 'Dapper' but not 'Breezy'.
[02:28] <axisme> look at your message windows
[02:28] <__user__> ferronica: does not matter
[02:28] <ferronica> rootnoverify         (hd2,0)
[02:28] <g1gaman> jenda, gnome
[02:28] <jenda> freakabcd: because there are very few women using linux, and from experience, they are less open to technical debate...
[02:28] <newbie33> how to get more gnome themes?
[02:28] <jenda> g1gaman: sorry, it's keyboard indicator
[02:28] <newbie33> !themes
[02:28] <gnomefreak> jenda: there is a ubuntu-womens team
[02:28] <jenda> newbie33: gnome-look.org
[02:28] <freakabcd> umm.. ok. all the women in my dept use linux
[02:28] <jenda> gnomefreak: I know.
[02:28] <imbrandon> gnomes-look.org
[02:28] <__user__> ferronica: makeactive and chainloader +1 also part of your menu.lst ?
[02:28] <pschulz01> roryy: build-essential is already the newest version.
[02:28] <kbrooks> OK
[02:28] <kbrooks> er
[02:28] <g1gaman> jenda, i meant language to language switcher
[02:29] <__user__> ferronica: is the partition marked as ACTIVE ?
[02:29] <Frogzoo> !tell newbie33: about themes
[02:29] <newbie33> :)
[02:29] <Frogzoo> !tell newbie33: about theme
[02:29] <g1gaman> jenda, like EN to FR and otherwise
[02:29] <__user__> ferronica: fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:29] <ferronica> makeactive
[02:29] <Frogzoo> newbie33: check the pm from ubotu
[02:29] <ferronica> map                (hd0) (hd2)
[02:29] <newbie33> Frogzoo, thankus but I already written !themes :)
[02:29] <Frogzoo> newbie33: please register with nickserv
[02:29] <ferronica> map                (hd2) (hd0)
[02:29] <jenda> gnomefreak, g1gaman, all my converts so for were men, and no member of the marketing team is a female, so that's why I'm happy I have a female convert now - that's all. :)
[02:29] <bigfoot1> breezy users: tell me what version is your nautilus?
[02:29] <Frogzoo> !theme
[02:30] <newbie33> Frogzoo,  I got msg from ubotu :)
[02:30] <roryy> pschulz01: and sys/io.h is missigin ?
[02:30] <newbie33> all ok
[02:30] <Frogzoo> newbie33: ok, cool
[02:30] <pschulz01> roryy:  dpkg -S include/sys/io.h
[02:30] <pschulz01> dpkg: *include/sys/io.h* not found.
[02:30] <jenda> g1gaman: OK, that's exactly what keyboard indicator does. You need to set up the alternat keyboard layout in System > Prefs>Keyboard Settings
[02:30] <axisme> ferronica..... Open up a terminal. type "cd /etc/grub"
[02:30] <axisme> then type "nano menu.lst"
[02:30] <gnomefreak> pschulz01: try dpkg -L sys/io.h
[02:31] <ferronica> come privately
[02:31] <Seveas> !tell pschulz01 about compiling
[02:31] <Frogzoo> (it seems bot is playing up - spamming "(target invalid?))" when the pm has been sent)
[02:31] <ferronica> error
[02:31] <axisme> what error
[02:31] <roryy> pschulz01: puzzling. I set libc6-dev -- which is a dep of build-essential
[02:31] <ferronica> bash: cd: /etc/grub: No such file or directory
[02:31] <roryy> pschulz01: that is, i *get* libc6-dev (from dpkg -S ... )
[02:31] <Frogzoo> ferronica: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:31] <axisme> oh sorry my bad
[02:31] <__user__> ferronica: it has to be part of /boot/ anyways
[02:32] <freakabcd> roryy, err..
[02:32] <axisme> yeh what frog said
[02:32] <pschulz01> libc6-dev is installed..
[02:32] <freakabcd> hes searching for non-existent files
[02:32] <ferronica> it is already opened
[02:32] <freakabcd> shouldn't you specify the full path to -S ?
[02:32] <__user__> ferronica: /etc/grub is probably just a symlink to /boot/grub
[02:32] <roryy> freakabcd: ah, yeah, sorry
[02:32] <axisme> so scroll down
[02:32] <roryy> pschulz01: /usr/include/sys/io.h
[02:32] <axisme> until you find the windows option
[02:32] <g1gaman> jenda, thanx, it worked. me = stupido
[02:33] <freakabcd> and whats the problem with libc6-dev ?
[02:33] <ferronica> in bottom i found
[02:33] <jenda> g1gaman: no problem at all
[02:33] <pschulz01> roryy: dpkg -L libc6-dev | grep sys/io.h -  doesn't return anything on Breezy.
[02:33] <axisme> just change the contents of the root to the destination of your windows hdd
[02:33] <ferronica> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[02:33] <imbrandon> please use pastebin
[02:33] <roryy> pschulz01: it does on my breezy ;)
[02:33] <ferronica> sorry
[02:33] <roryy> pschulz01: what arch are you on?
[02:34] <pschulz01> roryy: PowerPC
[02:34] <ferronica> what axisme
[02:34] <axisme> yes below that
[02:34] <ferronica> what i change
[02:34] <roryy> pschulz01: let's check on packages.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <axisme> you will see root            (hd0,1)
[02:34] <axisme> or something like that
[02:34] <axisme> change the contents of the bracket to the drive you want it to boot
[02:34] <ferronica> rootnoverify     (hd2,0)
[02:35] <ferronica> savedefault
[02:35] <axisme> did you change it?
[02:35] <axisme> what was it before?
[02:35] <ferronica> right now it is hd2,0
[02:35] <pschulz01> roryy: Is is arch dependent?
[02:35] <roryy> pschulz01: wouldn't have thought so
[02:36] <axisme> ok and which drive do you want to boot?
[02:36] <roryy> pschulz01: but that is the only difference between our system
[02:36] <ferronica> i want ubuntu ask me to choose OS,
[02:36] <ferronica> ok
[02:36] <ferronica> if i choose Xp it shud boot Boot
[02:37] <axisme> yes but which hdd is xp on
[02:37] <axisme> is it set right?
[02:37] <imbrandon> probly hd0,1
[02:37] <ferronica> Xp is on SATA
[02:37] <axisme> if it is, i have no idea what your problem is. If its set to boot in the wrong place, change it
[02:37] <ferronica> 0 channel
[02:37] <buithuhien> hi
[02:37] <ferronica> and ubuntu is in IDE
[02:37] <ferronica> 0 channel
[02:37] <pschulz01> roryy: My Dapper is on i386, and this has this file..
[02:38] <buithuhien> can i ask a question
[02:38] <buithuhien> ?????????????????????????????????
[02:38] <imbrandon> ask
[02:38] <imbrandon> just ask
[02:38] <roryy> pschulz01: i'm on i386 breezy
[02:38] <buithuhien> yes
[02:38] <sfar> buithuhien: you just did
[02:38] <buithuhien> i there any soft to read pdf file
[02:38] <roryy> pschulz01: hmm. http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=sys%2Fio.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=powerpc
[02:38] <imbrandon> xpdf
[02:38] <axisme> what does ubuntu root say
[02:38] <axisme> hd0
[02:38] <axisme> or hd1
[02:38] <roryy> pschulz01: as opposed to http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=sys%2Fio.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[02:38] <imbrandon> buithuhien: apt-get install xpdf
[02:39] <ferronica> root                (hd0,0)
[02:39] <axisme> when you go to cmos, where do you tell it to boot from, to get xp to boot
[02:39] <roryy> pschulz01: looks like it is arch specific
[02:39] <imbrandon> ferronica: try hd1,0 for windows, see if it works
[02:39] <newbie33> I am having a HUGE problem with my mobile phone's cable and it's applications.
[02:39] <newbie33> I am a Siemens cx65 user and use the siemens DCA-510 usb data cable. In windows there was a driver that emulated usb port to be found from siemens apps as a communication ports (u could selected the port). I can run the programs thru wine but they cannot recognise the cable, because they need commport cables. Is there any way to do this?
[02:39] <ferronica> i set it on ubuntu
[02:40] <axisme> eh?
[02:40] <ferronica> not in XP
[02:40] <buithuhien> imbrandon : thanks
[02:40] <ferronica> if i wanna use Xp again i ahv to change
[02:40] <imbrandon> buithuhien: np
[02:40] <axisme> ....so whats the xp hdd drive called?
[02:40] <axisme> hd1? hd2?
[02:41] <Frogzoo> newbie33: pretty sure wine supports serial ports
[02:41] <axisme> if you can manually boot it, it should tell you there
[02:41] <imbrandon> axisme: i dont think she knows
[02:41] <axisme> oh
[02:41] <pschulz01> roryy: Thanks.. looks like I'll have to hack some code..
[02:41] <ferronica> really i dont know
[02:41] <ferronica> sorry
[02:41] <gnomefreak> why not paste /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin
[02:41] <imbrandon> !pastebin
[02:41] <ferronica> i am dumbo in linux
[02:41] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[02:42] <axisme> or just do what brandon sways and change the windows one to  (hd1,0)
[02:42] <axisme> just guessing
[02:42] <axisme> no idea what its on heh
[02:42] <ferronica> ok done
[02:42] <imbrandon> if your linux is hd0,0 and on ide and the other is on sata and there are no other hdds installed i bet its hd1,0
[02:42] <ferronica> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12777
[02:43] <ferronica> there is only one sata
[02:43] <ferronica> and two IDE
[02:43] <imbrandon> ahh try hd2,1 thern
[02:43] <imbrandon> if there is two ide
[02:43] <ferronica> what
[02:43] <jenda> How can I rip a page out of a pdf book? output to postscript would suffice, but evince doesn't seem to work...
[02:43] <ferronica> ya there is two HDD
[02:43] <Frogzoo> imbrandon: sata would be sd0
[02:44] <ferronica> IDE two
[02:44] <imbrandon> not in grub
[02:44] <roryy> Frogzoo: in grub too ?
[02:44] <imbrandon> i run sata for all my drives
[02:44] <gnomefreak> sd(a)0 in grub no?
[02:44] <imbrandon> no
[02:44] <gnomefreak> (a) = a or b or whatever letter
[02:44] <imbrandon> hd just the same
[02:44] <imbrandon> my sata drives are hd just as ide ones
[02:45] <imbrandon> just depends on the order
[02:45] <imbrandon> ferronica: try to change rootnoverify         (hd2,0) to rootnoverify         (hd2,1)
[02:45] <axisme> change rootnoverify         (hd2,0) to rootnoverify         (hd2,1)
[02:45] <axisme> try that
[02:45] <roryy> 'fdisk -l' should at least let you identify which partition of the drive it is
[02:46] <ferronica> ok
[02:46] <ferronica> and reboot ok
[02:46] <ferronica> wait
[02:47] <TG|Mino> hi
[02:47] <ferronica> command to open menulist
[02:47] <TG|Mino> can anybody help me a bit with booting ubuntu...
[02:47] <Frogzoo> roryy: device.map should map hdx -> /dev/sdx
[02:47] <axisme> nano menu.lst
[02:47] <imbrandon> gnomefreak: grub sees all hard drives as hdx,x but the OS see's them as /dev/sdX
[02:47] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:47] <TG|Mino> I just installed ubuntu from cd on a partition, I allready had a windows xp install on my syststem
[02:48] <newbie33> how to reach mounted drives threw terminal?
[02:48] <newbie33> where it is?
[02:48] <TG|Mino> now it shows a nice grub prompt and me wondering what to do next
[02:48] <axisme> should be in /media
[02:48] <imbrandon> newbie33: probbly /media but it depends on where you mounted them
[02:48] <Frogzoo> newbie33: mount will show where it's mounted
[02:48] <newbie33> found, thanks
[02:48] <TG|Mino> my ubuntu install is at (hd1,1)
[02:48] <keithhhhh> Did anyone have this problem installing ubuntu.... After getting past Selecting Country and Keyboard its freezes at 92%-"Detecting Hardware to find CD-Rom Drive         Loading module 'isofs' for Linux ISO 9660 filesystem' ...
[02:49] <imbrandon> keithhhhh: it just seems like its locked it takes a long time on older systems
[02:49] <imbrandon> i thought that the first time
[02:49] <keithhhhh> well this is a fairly new sytem
[02:49] <roryy> TG|Mino: you're seeing a grub> prompt ?
[02:49] <TG|Mino> yes
[02:49] <keithhhhh> and Ive gotten past this problem before
[02:49] <HaxoR91> how do i install my printer?
[02:49] <keithhhhh> this is my second install  :(
[02:49] <imbrandon> hmmm ok keithhhhh
[02:49] <gnomefreak> !printer
[02:49] <ubotu> methinks printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[02:49] <imbrandon> my bad
[02:50] <roryy> TG|Mino: i can try to help you by telling you commands from my menu.lst, and using grub's filename completion
[02:50] <keithhhhh> imbrandon Ive tried 3 disks  :(
[02:50] <imbrandon> ouch
[02:51] <TG|Mino> well my question really is what to do next, how do I boot my winXP install again or a ubuntu install
[02:51] <HaxoR91> uhmm can someone please tell me how to install my printer?
[02:51] <imbrandon> !printers
[02:51] <ubotu> well, printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[02:51] <roryy> TG|Mino: you can use a windows install CD, with the 'fixmbr' command, to restore your windows system
[02:51] <axisme> MIno, didn't grub find the windows install when you installed unbuntu?
[02:51] <roryy> TG|Mino: it sounds like your ubuntu install failed -- any ideas why?
[02:52] <TG|Mino> not really it appeared to go well
[02:52] <athlon> is firefox <IP_ADDRESS> package for dapper / breezy available from the official repositories ?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> athlon: no get it from
[02:52] <TG|Mino> it told me to reboot without cd to install some other software, but it didn't really got to that obviously
[02:52] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[02:52] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:52] <gnomefreak> there
[02:52] <imbrandon> athlon: <IP_ADDRESS> is dapper not <IP_ADDRESS> yer
[02:52] <imbrandon> yet
[02:53] <roryy> TG|Mino: maybe the grub install got confused. I get the idea with multiple drives, things can more easily go wrong
[02:53] <athlon> oh okay... I thought theres something wrong with my sources.list
[02:53] <roryy> TG|Mino: what do you want to do?
[02:54] <lesshaste> anyone know how to make a simply 3d plot with gnuplot?
[02:55] <lesshaste> I have a file of x y z values
[02:55] <TG|Mino> well could be, I got my windows install on IDE hd, and I got a 200gig ata hd partitioned with fat32, I took 10 gig from that 200gig fat32 partition to install ubuntu on, but it doesn't really seem to work that easy...
[02:55] <roryy> TG|Mino: i imagine the grub config can be fixed up manually
[02:55] <TG|Mino> ok can you give me a hint on how to do that
[02:55] <alexMK> Ubuntu Dapper rocks :)
[02:55] <freakabcd> lesshaste, easy
[02:56] <gnomefreak> alexMK: #ubuntu+1 for all dapper discussion
[02:56] <lesshaste> freakabcd: :) how?
[02:56] <roryy> TG|Mino: let's try to get ubuntu booted
[02:56] <alexMK> I mean Ubuntu Dapper "Live" rocks :)
[02:56] <freakabcd> lesshaste, if you already have a file 'data.dat' with x y z values: splot 'data.dat'
[02:56] <TG|Mino> yes thats the idea
[02:56] <roryy> TG|Mino: first,    'root (hd1,1)'     (without the quotes)
[02:56] <TG|Mino> k
[02:57] <lesshaste> freakabcd: cool.. I just need a nice surface to be drawn
[02:57] <TG|Mino> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition thype 0x83
[02:57] <freakabcd> set pm3d
[02:57] <freakabcd> set surface
[02:57] <roryy> TG|Mino:    'kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6<TAB>'    (the <TAB> keypress should hopefully complete the name)
[02:57] <freakabcd> replot
[02:57] <alexMK> gnomefreak:This live version is cool, I can actually install software running Ubuntu from the CD (Live) with the new UnionFS :)
[02:57] <phish_> Hi
[02:57] <phish_> Can anyone help me?
[02:58] <phish_> I'm new to linux.
[02:58] <TG|Mino> [Linux-bzImage, setup-0x1c00, size=0x124b1b
[02:58] <TG|Mino> ]
[02:58] <alexMK> phish_:yes...
[02:58] <keithhhhh> phish - I find everyone helpful here, just ask the question and say thank you after  ;)
[02:58] <roryy> TG|Mino: hmm
[02:58] <gnomefreak> alexMK: please bring all dapper support issues to #ubuntu+1 and for dapper offtopic talk please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:58] <roryy> TG|Mino: doesn't sound quite right
[02:58] <alexMK> oh sorry
[02:58] <lesshaste> freakabcd: that didn't do it... http://pastebin.com/676774 is the data
[02:59] <lesshaste> freakabcd: I get a nice colour bar on the right but no surface drawn
[02:59] <phish_> When i go to install my nvidia drivers it tells me i am running an X server and i need to stop ruinning it. what does it mean and how can i stop it?
[02:59] <phish_> *running
[02:59] <jimi>  is there anything to view what inside the /boot/bzImage file?
[02:59] <alexMK> gnomefreak:I didn't understand that #ubuntu+1 at first :P, got it now
[02:59] <TG|Mino> any idea on what could cause this -not quite rightigousness-
[02:59] <imbrandon> phish_: easyest thing is to reboot
[02:59] <gnomefreak> phish_: please reboot
[02:59] <phish_> ok
[02:59] <shackan_> hi
[03:00] <roryy> TG|Mino: 'kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6<TAB>'  gives me 'Possible files are e: vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-k7 vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-k7'
[03:00] <imbrandon> brb, btw good morning gnomefreak ;)
[03:00] <gnomefreak> good morning imbrandon
[03:00] <roryy> TG|Mino: are you putting a space before the TAB by any chance?
[03:00] <imbrandon> brb quick reboot myself
[03:00] <shackan_> on freebsd I can force my centrino on a fixed frequency (no scaling) using sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq=XXXX, is there anything similar on linux ?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> hb
[03:00] <freakabcd> lesshaste, ah yes.. you need to tell gnuplot to explicitly interpolate and draw the surfaace..
[03:01] <TG|Mino> the command after tab read: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386
[03:01] <lesshaste> freakabcd: ah ok.. how do you do that?
[03:01] <freakabcd> lemme try to find my files i did the exact same thing many moons ago
[03:01] <roryy> TG|Mino: ah, good
[03:01] <roryy> TG|Mino: don't press enter, there are still some boot parameters after that
[03:01] <TG|Mino> ah ok
[03:02] <roryy> TG|Mino: the line should look like this:     'kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet splash'   (the /dev/sda2 is a bit of a guess -- you said this is an SATA drive, and your other drive is IDE ?)
[03:03] <lesshaste> freakabcd: thx very much
[03:03] <TG|Mino> yes as fas as I can remember I build a IDE and a sata drive in this pc ^_^
[03:03] <Pupeno> I am converting images from tiff to png with ImageMagick's convert, how do I achieve the greatest compression ?
[03:03] <roryy> TG|Mino: well, we'll find out soon enough
[03:03] <phish_> Well, unfortunatly i got the same error.
[03:04] <roryy> TG|Mino: next line is 'initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-386'
[03:04] <jimi>  is there anything to view what inside the /boot/bzImage file?
[03:04] <roryy> TG|Mino: you can use <TAB> to complete the initrd.img name (that will verify that it's correct)
[03:04] <freakabcd> lesshaste, set dgrid3d
[03:04] <imbrandon> jimi: thats your kernel
[03:04] <freakabcd> replot
[03:04] <phish_> How do i stop "X"
[03:04] <TG|Mino> it gives the same response as without the 'root=' but if I remember it right it should be sda5 so I'll try that
[03:05] <lesshaste> freakabcd: thx!
[03:05] <imbrandon> phish_: rebooting will restart x
[03:05] <roryy> TG|Mino: ah, fair enough, if it's an extended partition
[03:05] <OffHand> anyone got his HP Deskjet 843C printer to work in Dapper Beta?
[03:05] <phish_> imbrandon: i need to stop it
[03:05] <freakabcd> lesshaste, your points a too sparsed out. hence it doesn't provide a smooth surface
[03:05] <roryy> phish_: in a terminal 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[03:05] <imbrandon> phish_: x is your windows
[03:05] <phish_> ok
[03:05] <lesshaste> freakabcd: it also makes some odd interpolation
[03:06] <freakabcd> yup
[03:06] <TG|Mino> ok no luck until 9 :/
[03:06] <freakabcd> help dgrid3d
[03:06] <freakabcd> anyway, whats this data set from? its weird
[03:06] <lesshaste> freakabcd: for some reason it goes up and down in both the x and y axes
[03:06] <roryy> TG|Mino: root=/dev/sda9 ?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> i could be wrong on this but doesnt grub send signal to windows loader to boot windows (grub is not really booting anything)
[03:06] <TG|Mino> ye
[03:06] <roryy> TG|Mino: sounds dodg
[03:06] <lesshaste> freakabcd: not sure how to stop it doing that
[03:06] <lesshaste> freakabcd: I linear interpolation would have done!"
[03:07] <lesshaste> A linear
[03:07] <OffHand> is there a dapper drake irc channel?
[03:07] <TG|Mino> all gives thes same response: [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1c00, size=0x124b1b]
[03:07] <gnomefreak> OffHand: #ubuntu+1
[03:07] <freakabcd> OffHand, #ubuntu+1
[03:07] <roryy> TG|Mino: well, let's see what happens.   I thought that was the 'completion' response
[03:08] <roryy> TG|Mino: i think try '/dev/sda2', unless you remember creating an extended partition
[03:08] <freakabcd> less linear interpolation is what you get if you just set dgrid3d
[03:08] <mthakur> hi, can ne1 tell me how to run windows program on linux?
[03:08] <freakabcd> and it will decide the interpolation
[03:08] <freakabcd> and the surface will _not_ be smooth
[03:08] <gnomefreak> mthakur: wine cedega crossover office your choice
[03:09] <mthakur> gnomefreak, how do u use it/install it?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> mthakur: not all win apps run on them wine is only free one in the group
[03:09] <freakabcd> lesshaste, you still there?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mthakur about wine
[03:09] <TG|Mino> ok the initrd [Linux-initrd @ [somehex] , [morehex]  bytes]
[03:09] <lesshaste> freakabcd: yep
[03:09] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mthakur about cedega
[03:09] <mthakur> gnomefreak, cheers!
[03:09] <roryy> TG|Mino: ok, let's try boot
[03:10] <phish_> What was the command to stop "X" again? i need to write it down this time
[03:10] <TG|Mino> ah that looks good
[03:10] <roryy> TG|Mino: just 'boot'
[03:10] <lesshaste> freakabcd: I have to set hidden3d too
[03:10] <gnomefreak> phish_: ctrl+alt+backspace is one way to do it
[03:10] <freakabcd> sorry if you wanted just crappy linear interp wth a surface, unset dgrid3d; set pm3d; set dgrid3d 5,5; splot "data.dat"
[03:10] <TG|Mino> will it work the next time grub will load like this?
[03:10] <TG|Mino> or will I have to retype all this
[03:10] <roryy> TG|Mino: no, i think you may need to tweak the grub config file
[03:11] <lesshaste> freakabcd: ok... here goes :)
[03:11] <HaxoR91> hi
[03:11] <roryy> TG|Mino: can that machine access the internet ?
[03:11] <TG|Mino> it should ye
[03:11] <TG|Mino> it's now installing the rest of the packages
[03:11] <freakabcd> the pm3d is what is providing the colours you can change the colourscheme. take a look at the gnuplot 4.x demo pages on the net. lots of good examples
[03:11] <lesshaste> freakabcd: that is at least monotonic!
[03:12] <lesshaste> freakabcd: the previous ones weren't for some reason
[03:12] <HaxoR91> ubuntu didnt detect my printer
[03:12] <HaxoR91> what do i do?
[03:12] <roryy> TG|Mino: well, when all the install bits are done, put your /boot/grub/menu.lst file on the pastebin http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl and we'll see if we can fix it
[03:12] <newbie33> how to exit man command?
[03:12] <newbie33> ctrl + c not helps
[03:12] <roryy> TG|Mino: you should recognize some of the commands we just typed as being in that file
[03:12] <roryy> newbie33: q
[03:12] <newbie33> thanks
[03:12] <TG|Mino> ok is it possible to fix the windows boot aswell?
[03:13] <HaxoR91> ubuntu did detect my printer
[03:13] <gnomefreak> newbie33: q
[03:13] <theSamo> haakonn: hmm, where does ubuntu keep all the .debs it downloads?
[03:13] <imbrandon> ubotu tell HaxoR91 about printers
[03:13] <HaxoR91> i dont know what to do
[03:13] <freakabcd> lesshaste, yeah it was because of dgrid3d's interp
[03:13] <lesshaste> freakabcd: I don't suppose you know how to do non-linear interpolation that will be monotonic in the x and y axes? :)
[03:13] <theSamo> sry for that , this was a general question
[03:13] <HaxoR91> dude that does not help
[03:13] <newbie33> rkz@tyla:/media/hda5/Program Files$ cp Skype /home/rkz/skype
[03:13] <newbie33> cp: omitting directory `Skype'
[03:13] <theSamo> where does ubuntu keep all the .debs it downloads?
[03:13] <newbie33> whats wrong?
[03:13] <roryy> TG|Mino: hopefully we can do that in the menu.lst file too
[03:13] <lesshaste> freakabcd: I suppose I could do it by hand ...
[03:14] <roryy> TG|Mino: i know it's not much help, but things are usually much smoother than this (normally the boot manager 'Just Works')
[03:14] <imbrandon> newbie33: cp -R Skype /home/rkz/skype
[03:14] <G|zeh> hi
[03:15] <imbrandon> hi
[03:15] <TG|Mino> yeah, I ussually have this kind of trouble... I once managed to destroy a harddrive trying to dualboot suse and windows server... never really understood much of it
[03:15] <newbie33> thanks imbrandon , I wonder what means -R
[03:15] <freakabcd> lesshaste, look at help dgrid3d; unfortunately your data set interpolates in a weird way. 5,5 because your data set is essentially a 5x5 grid
[03:15] <G|zeh> i have sum problem
[03:15] <G|zeh> lol
[03:15] <phish_> ok
[03:15] <G|zeh> :/
[03:15] <phish_> this is kind of annoying.
[03:15] <TG|Mino> but thanks for the help
[03:15] <imbrandon> newbie33: it means recursive , type "man cp" if you want to know about it
[03:15] <G|zeh> can i ask a question pls?
[03:16] <imbrandon> you just did G|zeh
[03:16] <G|zeh> lol
[03:16] <phish_> basiclly, how do i install my nvidia drivers? (geforce 5200 fx agp, i386)
[03:16] <G|zeh> okay i installed nforce sound drivers for my nforce 2 mobo
[03:16] <imbrandon> phish_: type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and then reboot when its done
[03:16] <G|zeh> but system sounds arent working anymore
[03:17] <G|zeh> id like to hear em
[03:17] <G|zeh> is there any chance to get em back?
[03:17] <phish_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[03:17] <phish_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[03:17] <phish_> k...
[03:17] <imbrandon> you dident type sudo
[03:17] <imbrandon> or synaptic is running
[03:17] <bpuccio> phish_: do you have synaptic open in the background?
[03:17] <phish_> whoops
[03:18] <phish_> jesus you guys know alot
[03:18] <alexMK> does anyone know if the arial font is in any ubuntu package?
[03:18] <imbrandon> lol it wont take you long to learn
[03:18] <phish_> i got used to windows
[03:18] <phish_> super fast
[03:19] <phish_> then i got sick
[03:19] <lesshaste> freakabcd: ok thx... I am now trying to work out if I can plot two 3d surfaces on one graph :)
[03:19] <phish_> but ive always wanter to learn linux junk.
[03:19] <G|zeh> btw nforce drivers are audio driver which use oss
[03:19] <imbrandon> alexMK: its in the msttcorefonts pkg
[03:19] <bimberi> alexMK: msttcorefonts (in multiverse)
[03:19] <alexMK> thanks guys :)
[03:19] <phish_> imbrandon: im done.
[03:20] <phish_> imbrandon: after i reboot what do i do?
[03:20] <imbrandon> nothing
[03:20] <imbrandon> they are installed
[03:20] <phish_> the driver will be there?
[03:20] <phish_> voilla?
[03:20] <imbrandon> yup
[03:20] <phish_> merci
[03:20] <imbrandon> yw
[03:20] <G|zeh> anyone knows?
[03:20] <imbrandon> G|zeh: no idea bro , someone in here might though
[03:20] <kevinz> how to turn on bitmap for fonts?
[03:21] <G|zeh> okay imbrandon
[03:21] <G|zeh> thx
[03:22] <bigfoot1> i was playing around with "gok" (on screen keyboard), and now my numeric keypad  (to the right of the alphabetical keys ) don't work
[03:22] <coz_> just installed streamtuner on dapper and I get three erros when trying to run it the first on is Script/usr/share/streamtuner/python/scripts/google-stations.py could not beloaded: 'module' object has no attribute 'argv
[03:22] <bigfoot1> gok is not running , or at least i think so
[03:22] <imbrandon> bigfoot1: is you numlock key on? if not turn it on
[03:22] <bigfoot1> imbrandon: i tried both
[03:22] <imbrandon> hmm
[03:22] <Toma-> coz_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[03:22] <bigfoot1> actually, i think it or something associated with it, is still on
[03:23] <entropy> I've just installed ubuntu to try help port some of my software for linux/ubuntu, how do I install gcc?
[03:23] <pschulz01> seveas: Thanks for the link.. the software that I am trying to compile needs to have 'configure' added :-)
[03:23] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: please join #ubuntu+1
[03:23] <phish_> ok more help :P. so i installed wine earlier
[03:23] <phish_> and i installed steam with it, how do i open steam now?
[03:23] <roryy> entropy: install build-essential
[03:23] <bigfoot1> when i press Shift twice, "sticky Keys configuration" pops up.
[03:23] <bigfoot1> so that's why i'm guessing it's still on
[03:23] <entropy> roryy thanks
[03:23] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: is this a dapper issue?
[03:23] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: are you using dapper?
[03:23] <imbrandon> phish_: type "wine /path/to/steam.exe"
[03:24] <TG|Mino> Ok I posted the menu.lst there
[03:24] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: yes
[03:24] <phish_> imbrandon: when i installed it said "C:\program files\" what would the linux equivlent ofthat be?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: if your using dapper all issues are assumed to be dapper related
[03:24] <newbie33> who knows how to load radio list in xmms?
[03:24] <TG|Mino> it's on http://paste.ububntu-nl.org/12779
[03:24] <imbrandon> phish_: probbly something like /home/<username>/.wine/c_drive/Programfiles etc etc etc
[03:25] <coz_> you know I was told by several operators that #ubuntu suports dapper yet everytime i ask a question here i am told to go to ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[03:25] <entropy> roryy: is there a commandline install tool in ubuntu? I'm in 'system->administration->add application' and cannot find "build-essential"
[03:25] <pschulz01> entropy: apt-get
[03:25] <imbrandon> entropy: apt-get
[03:25] <Toma-> coz_: who told u that?
[03:25] <roryy> entropy: yes, you can use 'apt-get' or 'aptitude'.  Try also synaptic (gui); should have all packages
[03:25] <entropy> ah, thanks :) now i know what to rtfm ;)
[03:25] <gnomefreak> entropy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:25] <Toma-> coz_: they obviously havent read the /topic :)
[03:25] <coz_> Toma-, who told this channel supports dapper
[03:25] <redLAW> how can i enable multimedia buttons on my keyboard
[03:26] <Toma-> coz_: yeh. seen the topic?
[03:26] <entropy> gnomefreak: fantastic, thanks for the kickstart
[03:26] <gnomefreak> ;)
[03:26] <HaxoR91> how do i install the driver for my printer?
[03:26] <phish_> imbrandon: is there a way to search the filesystem? like windows has?
[03:26] <coz_> Toma do you realize this is the official "ubuntu" chammel and last I heard dapper si ubuntu
[03:26] <Fitzz> !techsmith
[03:26] <ubotu> Fitzz: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:26] <Toma-> coz_: its still development tho.
[03:26] <Fitzz> !tsccvid.dll
[03:26] <imbrandon> if you have slocate installed you can run "sudo updatedb" and then type "locate <blah>"
[03:26] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fitzz
[03:26] <roryy> TG|Mino: hmm. That lone 'root' on line 133 looks suspicious
[03:27] <roryy> TG|Mino: what message did grub give on boot ?
[03:27] <imbrandon> phish_: if you have slocate installed you can run "sudo updatedb" and then type "locate <blah>"
[03:27] <nomin> how do I play streaming audio with xmms.  I have a link from shoutcast.  I just want to know where to paste it in xmms.
[03:27] <imbrandon> i think slocate is installed by default
[03:27] <phish_> ill install it
[03:27] <TG|Mino> it looked all very standard
[03:27] <bimberi> phish_: Places -> Search for Files...
[03:27] <entropy> ahh, much better :) i'm much more at home with console utils
[03:27] <Fitzz> how can i play techsmith videos? i already installed codecs on the ubuntu unofficial guide
[03:27] <TG|Mino> but I'll have to reboot to see it again :)
[03:27] <redLAW> how can i enable multimedia buttons on my keyboard
[03:27] <phish_> bimberi: thank god... :P
[03:27] <roryy> TG|Mino: never mind.  I think it will be easiest to just remove that 'root', save and reboot
[03:28] <entropy> thanks for the help guys
[03:28] <TG|Mino> ok
[03:28] <bimberi> phish_: :)
[03:28] <imbrandon> redLAW: depends on the keayboard most dont have linux drivers you have top mess with custom keymaps
[03:28] <roryy> TG|Mino: just a second...
[03:28] <HaxoR91> how do i install the driver for my printer?
[03:28] <Fitzz> !tscc
[03:28] <ubotu> Fitzz: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:28] <roryy> TG|Mino: hrm, i can't see if a bare 'root' would generate an error
[03:28] <imbrandon> HaxoR91: we gave you the link
[03:28] <HaxoR91> ?
[03:29] <HaxoR91> when?
[03:29] <dabuni_> Hi! I have a wlan problem. I installed Ndiswrapper succesfully and dmesg said me that it has been loaded succesfully. but ifconfig and iwconfig both don't show a wlan0 device or something
[03:29] <TG|Mino> it doesn't generate any errors right now
[03:29] <imbrandon> HaxoR91: goto system settings and click on printers
[03:29] <roryy> TG|Mino: did you reboot?
[03:29] <_jason> HaxoR91: check your private messages from ubotu
[03:29] <redLAW> imbrandon: i have logitech media keyboard elite
[03:29] <phish_> bimberi: that program is restarded, i searched steam in filesystem... when on my desktop there is a steaminstall binary
[03:29] <TG|Mino> yes
[03:29] <phish_> *retarded
[03:30] <imbrandon> lol
[03:30] <HaxoR91> you mean printing?
[03:30] <roryy> TG|Mino: and?
[03:30] <HaxoR91> imbrandon: you mean printing?
[03:30] <imbrandon> no i use kde not gnome so mine is diffrent thats why we said check the link
[03:30] <buithuhien> oh
[03:30] <imbrandon> !printer
[03:30] <ubotu> it has been said that printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[03:30] <bimberi> phish_: it might rely on the slocate database - do a 'sudo updatedb' in a terminal and retry
[03:31] <TG|Mino> well I didn't yet remeove the root so I had to do that steps I did before
[03:31] <buithuhien> how can i play mp3 file
[03:31] <bimberi> !tell buithuhien about mp3
[03:31] <roryy> TG|Mino: no informative error messages?
[03:31] <simonpca> plop
[03:31] <roryy> TG|Mino: it's a bit weird for grub to just drop into a shell like that
[03:31] <TG|Mino> no, just the message that I could use simple bash command
[03:31] <TG|Mino> ss
[03:31] <sanderella> can someone tell me why i can't safely download java on ubuntu?
[03:31] <roryy> TG|Mino: oh... hm. I guess it can't find the menu.lst file
[03:32] <TG|Mino> ok...
[03:32] <imbrandon> sanderella: search for "blackdown" in syanptic
[03:32] <Uriku> hey, does anyone has experience with Image Magick?
[03:32] <sanderella> thanks imbrandon
[03:32] <bimberi> !java
[03:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:32] <phish_> stupid wine giving me errors..
[03:32] <TG|Mino> I guess I can fix that in the command prompt?
[03:32] <TG|Mino> heh shell
[03:33] <roryy> TG|Mino: i think grub needs to be reinstalled
[03:33] <buithuhien> what
[03:33] <aveend> Hi! I have a wlan problem. I installed Ndiswrapper succesfully and dmesg said me that it has been loaded succesfully. but ifconfig and iwconfig both don't show a wlan0 device or something
[03:33] <buithuhien> i have a music player
[03:33] <TG|Mino> o...k
[03:33] <buithuhien> it say that it can play mp3
[03:33] <buithuhien> but when i add a song
[03:34] <Uriku> what music player do you have?
[03:34] <buithuhien> error
[03:34] <avalost> buithuhien: do you have the correct sound driver selected?
[03:34] <billytwowilly> xfs vs reiserfs go
[03:34] <gapz> r
[03:34] <buithuhien> this file is not audio stream
[03:35] <roryy> !tell TG|Mino about grub
[03:35] <buithuhien> avalost : yes i have
[03:35] <roryy> TG|Mino: did you get a message from ubotu?
[03:35] <TG|Mino> yup
[03:35] <buithuhien> i can play cd
[03:35] <phish_> wow, linux is awesome
[03:35] <phish_> so much more sexier than winblows :D
[03:35] <imbrandon> phish_: we think so too ;)
[03:35] <phish_> where can i download skins?
[03:35] <imbrandon> for what?
[03:35] <avalost> skins for what?
[03:35] <phish_> uhm
[03:35] <TG|Mino> so there is no fixing :/
[03:36] <LordFalcon> gnome-look.org ?
[03:36] <phish_> thw "windows" if you would clal them that
[03:36] <TG|Mino> oh well will try this
[03:36] <Uriku> anyone that heard of Image Magick?
[03:36] <imbrandon> gnome skins? gnome-look.org
[03:36] <roryy> TG|Mino: stand by, i'm browsing the wiki page
[03:36] <avalost> yes, gnome-look.org, gnome.org
[03:36] <phish_> ok
[03:36] <sander> Hi everyone!
[03:36] <imbrandon> or kde-look.org if you are using kubuntu
[03:36] <avalost> phish_: you may also opt to try other WM's to see what you like
[03:36] <avalost> you're not limited to one WM as you are in windows
[03:37] <avalost> Uriku: yes
[03:37] <sander> Im new to Linu and Ubuntu and I am trying to install FSV-0.9 but I am not really getting anywhere with it :(
[03:37] <imbrandon> yea as quick as you caught on i would recoment fluxbox or kde , just try "try" others I personaly use kde alot ( although i keep gnome installed )
[03:37] <Uriku> avalost: can I use convert to batch convert several files to png?
[03:37] <phish_> this is wierd
[03:37] <avalost> Uriku: man ImageMagick
[03:37] <avalost> yes
[03:38] <sander> Anyone knows why 'make' doesn't work from the terminal?
[03:38] <Uriku> avalost: or do I absulutly have to use morgify
[03:38] <phish_> how can i access "my computer" i know thats windows but wine shows it :/
[03:38] <avalost> you may need to write a script to do batch commands though
[03:38] <imbrandon> sander:  can you be more descriptive
[03:38] <Uriku> currently, I am not using Linux
[03:38] <avalost> Uriku: see convert --help
[03:38] <avalost> too
[03:38] <roryy> TG|Mino: you there?
[03:38] <sander> imbrandon: when I type make, it is not reckognized
[03:38] <TG|Mino> yes I am
[03:39] <avalost> sander: apt-get buildessential
[03:39] <imbrandon> do you have make installed ? install build-essentials
[03:39] <avalost> sander: apt-get build-essential
[03:39] <roryy> TG|Mino: ok, i have an idea how to try to fix this
[03:39] <avalost> yeah
[03:39] <gnomefreak> sander: use avalost's last one
[03:39] <avalost> err, don't forget "install"
[03:39] <imbrandon> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:40] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:40] <imbrandon> ;)
[03:40] <avalost> hey it's early :p
[03:40] <roryy> TG|Mino: hmm, sorry, hang on
[03:40] <sander> That last one seems to be working :)
[03:40] <phish_> how do i access the C:/
[03:40] <Uriku> ^_^ the windows CMD works about the same as the Kernal - I tried to do convert --help > more and it created a more txt file
[03:40] <imbrandon> me too my brother got married last night and i pulled a good one ;)
[03:40] <phish_> there is a Z:/ drive also :/
[03:40] <phish_> ..wierd
[03:41] <Uriku> I forgot how to use a pipeline
[03:41] <roryy> TG|Mino: ok, let's try this
[03:41] <Uriku> hmm... | no?
[03:41] <imbrandon> phish_: there is no c:\ in linux
[03:41] <imbrandon> only in wine
[03:41] <phish_> well
[03:41] <ceacy> Hi
[03:41] <roryy> TG|Mino: get to a terminal   (Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal )
[03:41] <avalost> imbrandon: he's trying to view his windows partition
[03:41] <phish_> were is this fictitious C:/ wine is making?
[03:41] <TG|Mino> I am in it yes
[03:41] <ceacy> I've got a problem with Ubuntu Dapper Drake Beta, trying to compile a library
[03:41] <roryy> TG|Mino: ok, now run 'sudo grub'  (enter your user password when prompted)
[03:41] <gnomefreak> ceacy: #ubuntu+1 please
[03:41] <imbrandon> phish_: look in the ~/.wine/fakec dir
[03:42] <conhe> i need notes to install of nvidia
[03:42] <ceacy> gnomefreak > ok, thanks
[03:42] <TG|Mino> k
[03:42] <sander> You have to mount it as a NTFS partition phish
[03:42] <avalost> hmm, I haven't compiled e17 in ages.. maybe I should see whats up
[03:42] <roryy> TG|Mino: let's try this first: 'find /boot/grub/stage1'
[03:42] <roryy> TG|Mino: should spit on (hd1,1)
[03:42] <imbrandon> sander: no he is using wine not a real windows part
[03:42] <roryy> spit out, even
[03:42] <Uriku> err.. how do I exit MORE?
[03:42] <TG|Mino> it does
[03:43] <Uriku> besides getting to the end
[03:43] <avalost> Uriku: q
[03:43] <imbrandon> phish_: "cd ~/.wine/"
[03:43] <roryy> TG|Mino: ok, now 'root (hd1,1)'
[03:43] <phish_> ok
[03:43] <Uriku> -_-; tried ctrl+q
[03:43] <sander> Both for the installation of Nvidia drivers and the mounting of the windows drive take a look at the unofficial ubuntu guide
[03:43] <sander> It is very good, it helped me a lot
[03:43] <TG|Mino> k
[03:43] <roryy> TG|Mino: and then 'setup (hd0)'
[03:43] <sander> It is at: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[03:44] <TG|Mino> ok it runned an install on menu.lst
[03:44] <imbrandon> sander: we're talking about wine not a real windows partition dont confuse him
[03:44] <Uriku> hmm... is there a comperisment table of Linux's Kernal and Window CMD?
[03:44] <Uriku> (DOS)
[03:44] <phish_> imbrandon: i can set that as my dir in the terminal, how would i go here in the file browser?
[03:44] <roryy> TG|Mino: that should be it -- the 'setup (hd0)' writes to the MBR of your IDE drive, and should point to that partition on the SATA drive
[03:44] <Trunkz> hey folks
[03:44] <Trunkz> got a small question
[03:44] <Trunkz> I've compiled the 2.6.16 kernel
[03:44] <Trunkz> from a guide on the forums
[03:44] <Trunkz> thats all fine etc..
[03:44] <TG|Mino> ok reboot to try it I guess?
[03:44] <imbrandon> phish_: in the address bar type ~/.wine you have to manualy type it becouse .wine is hidden
[03:45] <Trunkz> but I cant seem to be able to get the linux-headers for it (I need to recompile ndiswrapper)
[03:45] <roryy> TG|Mino: yip. exit grub first and shutdown properly
[03:45] <phish_> oh ok
[03:45] <roryy> TG|Mino: 'quit' to exit grub
[03:45] <roryy> TG|Mino: i'm not all that confident of success; i'd think that this is pretty much what the ubuntu installer does
[03:46] <Uriku> well... gonna try using Morgify by drag and drop
[03:46] <sander> Okay I have ' make'  now, do I need to run it with the ' makefile.in'  or ' makefile.am' ?
[03:46] <Uriku> wish me luck
[03:46] <Uriku> zomg it worked!
[03:46] <imbrandon> sander: just type make
[03:46] <imbrandon> it will figure it out
[03:47] <TG|Mino> hmmm doesn't seem to work yet, I gtg now but I got a lot further now, will try some googling later :) tnx for the help
[03:47] <sander> imbrandon: it says it cant find any make files
[03:47] <roryy> TG|Mino: ok
[03:47] <jared_> how do I specify ssh in /etc/hosts.allow?
[03:47] <Trunkz> anyone?
[03:47] <sander> Do I need to run it as sudo?
[03:47] <roryy> TG|Mino: i think a solution is to boot your SATA drive first
[03:47] <imbrandon> sander then run ./configure first
[03:47] <imbrandon> sander then run "./configure" first
[03:47] <roryy> TG|Mino: grub can be convinced to boot the other drive for windows
[03:48] <sander> What is it doing now?:S
[03:48] <sander> It is doing a lot?
[03:48] <imbrandon> its creating your makefile
[03:48] <phish_> imbrandon: when i type wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/Steam.exe it says it cannot find the file
[03:48] <phish_> i also tried
[03:48] <eugman> I think I broke Ice or something. I'm in the failsafe terminal right now.
[03:48] <teletubbie> hi, how do I find out how many mb of ram a process uses?
[03:49] <phish_> wine /home/username/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/Steam.exe
[03:49] <imbrandon> phish_: put quites arround the path becouse there are spaces in it
[03:49] <eugman> any idea how to fix?
[03:49] <imbrandon> quotes
[03:49] <sander> Pfff, now it says it can't find the proper GTK+
[03:49] <imbrandon> sander: so install the propper gtk this chan is not to help compile things ;)
[03:50] <imbrandon> phish_: wine "/home/username/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/Steam.exe"
[03:50] <phish_> yeah
[03:50] <phish_> i need to reinstall
[03:50] <phish_> steam
[03:51] <sander> Gonna look to see what GTK+ is the right one :)
[03:52] <imbrandon> teletubbie: run "top" in a terminal
[03:52] <sander> GTK+ is not in the standard application list right?
[03:52] <roryy> sander: you probably need libgtk2.0-dev
[03:52] <teletubbie> imbrandon, it only says it in %
[03:52] <teletubbie> not in mb
[03:52] <phish_> hmm
[03:53] <phish_> imbrandon: should i run the installer from root? (real root or sudo -i?)
[03:53] <sander> roryy: the latest 2.8.17 wouldn't work?
[03:53] <jessid> hello
[03:53] <imbrandon> Phish i woulent run the installer as root at all ( steam right ? )
[03:53] <roryy> sander: assuming you're on breezy (ubuntu 5.10), you'll need to install that yourself
[03:53] <phish_> yea its steam
[03:54] <chatboy> !broadcom wireless
[03:54] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chatboy
[03:54] <jessid> some of you can tell me what do I have to do if a program says What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[03:54] <jessid> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[03:54] <sander> I am at GTK.org now
[03:54] <imbrandon> yea dont install it as root
[03:54] <imbrandon> sander you can use synaptic to get it i think
[03:54] <jessid> but i dont know where they are or what they are
[03:54] <roryy> sander: what are you trying to compile?
[03:54] <phish_> well when i run the installer at the end it crashes and says "doesn't have right access rights blah"
[03:54] <sander> I am trying to compile FSV-0.9
[03:54] <roryy> sander: i strongly recommend trying the ubuntu provided -dev package first
[03:55] <chatboy> !broadcom
[03:55] <ubotu> [broadcom]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[03:55] <roryy> sander: does that have a longer name?
[03:55] <sander> imbrandon and rorry, GTK+ should be in Synaptic?
[03:55] <xbox_sky> echo $PATH gives me a few directorys that will execute various commands, what if I wanted to delete a directory from bash, is it possible? Like I don't want $PATH to run executives from /usr/bin/2 etc?
[03:56] <newbie33> how to make printscreen with command from terminal. It should be something like import -window ...
[03:56] <imbrandon> xbox_sky: edit your path in .bashrc
[03:56] <martyn> i have a TV card for my pc any idea wherer to start to use it
[03:56] <roryy> sander: it's called libgtk2.0 and libgtk2.0-dev
[03:56] <imbrandon> martyn: mythtv is a good place to start
[03:56] <roryy> sander: and yes, it should be in synaptic. do you have a URL for that software?
[03:56] <Frogzoo> xbox_sky: you probably want to leave the stock entries, eg /usr/bin in your path
[03:56] <phish_> imbrandon, when i run the steam.exe it tells me it can't access bin/vgui.dll
[03:56] <phish_> its there :/
[03:56] <martyn> imbrandon : will that auto detected it
[03:57] <imbrandon> martyn it should
[03:57] <imbrandon> no garentee
[03:57] <imbrandon> lol
[03:57] <Frogzoo> xbox_sky: if you want to modify your $PATH, you can set it/reset it in ~/.gnomerc
[03:57] <martyn> imbrandon : kool thx
[03:57] <imbrandon> phish_: no idea past that man, i dont run steam ( and i use crossover office for my windows apps not stock wine )
[03:58] <phish_> crossover office?
[03:58] <phish_> any good?
[03:58] <imbrandon> phish_: yea its real good but it cost $$
[03:58] <imbrandon> ;)
[03:58] <imbrandon> its based on wine though, alot of the stuff is the same
[03:58] <EoS666> hello
[03:58] <imbrandon> hello
[03:59] <xbox_sky> Frogzoo yes the stock entries, but i've added a few shall we say "unwanted" paths that i'd like to remove
[03:59] <EoS666> what are the minimum system rq. for ubuntu?
[03:59] <sander> http://fsv.sourceforge.net/
[03:59] <phish_> the internet is free :P
[03:59] <xbox_sky> frogzoo ok I'll check out gnomerc
[03:59] <sander> rorry Do I need both?
[03:59] <xbox_sky> locate gnomerc
[03:59] <xbox_sky> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55gnome-session_gnomerc
[04:00] <xbox_sky> is that the one?
[04:00] <imbrandon> EoS666: depends on the install type , basic gnome install i would use atleaste 300mhz with 64mb ram
[04:00] <roryy> sander: looks like you'll need opengl dev stuff too
[04:00] <EoS666> hm that souns good, i want to install it on a celeron 600 with 64mb ram
[04:01] <sander> I am not trying to get the easiest thing installed I guess :p
[04:01] <EoS666> is that reasonable?
[04:01] <sander> This is my first week in Linux :D
[04:01] <imbrandon> EoS666: yea that shouldent be a problem, might be a bit slow but faster than windows ;)
[04:01] <EoS666> cool thx!
[04:01] <EoS666> im gonna get ubuntu then :)
[04:01] <LordFalcon> sander, good :)
[04:01] <roryy> sander: learn how to use synaptic's search feature, and look for -dev packages.  packages.ubuntu.com is also very handy for finding particular files.
[04:02] <LordFalcon> sander, and remember, you don't get girls if you use linux :)
[04:02] <phish_> in wine is there an option to bypass access rights?
[04:02] <oldFart_> can I somehow force apt-get to install xserver-xgl?
[04:02] <LordFalcon> sander, if you was thinking like that
[04:02] <apokryphos> oldFart_: on breezy it will not work
[04:02] <imbrandon> oldFart_: try #ubuntu-xql
[04:02] <LordFalcon> and my english suck
[04:02] <apokryphos> oldFart_: /msg ubotu xgl
[04:02] <imbrandon> oldFart_: try #ubuntu-xgl
[04:02] <oldFart_> im running dapper :P
[04:02] <xbox_sky> frogz00 I see no gnomerc in my home directory??
[04:02] <imbrandon> oldFart_: try #ubuntu-xgl
[04:02] <oldFart_> I know, +1
[04:02] <Frogzoo> phish_: how do you mean?
[04:02] <oldFart_> rigt-o
[04:03] <LordFalcon> "This OS got me laid"
[04:03] <imbrandon> phish_: no not realy
[04:03] <teletubbie> LordFalcon sander, and remember, you don't get girls if you use linux :) lmfao
[04:03] <sander> rorry, I see in synaptic that GTK+2.0 is already installed, so I now add the -dev too
[04:03] <Frogzoo> xbox_sky: you need to createa  file ~/.gnomerc     - it's read when you login to gnome, & all child procs inherit the environment
[04:03] <imbrandon> hahahah my wife showed me linux actualy many years ago
[04:03] <sander> I just broke up so it is okay:P
[04:04] <xbox_sky> ah gothca frogzoo
[04:04] <sander> I think the problem with Linux and no getting any girls is the awfull webcam support in Linux :p
[04:04] <xbox_sky> thank you Frogzoo :)
[04:04] <imbrandon> sander: hehe webcams work pretty good in linux ;)_
[04:04] <Frogzoo> xbox_sky: yw
[04:05] <sander> imbrandon, can you connect it to MSN or Skype?
[04:05] <phish_> well its annoying it seems that steam.exe can't access bin/vgui.exe both are located in /steam/
[04:05] <phish_> maybe because /.wine/ is hidden?
[04:05] <^^angusta> has anyone had trouble with ubuntu and Gefrce 420G chipset vid cards?
[04:05] <imbrandon> sander: both
[04:05] <Frogzoo> phish_: you're best off to work with linux's security, not against it, usually you just need to add your user to a group
[04:05] <jessid> hello...where can I find the C headers of my running kernel????
[04:05] <sander> Tell me how, maybe I can get a new gf with it :D
[04:06] <phish_> Frogzoo: mind telling me how?
[04:06] <hollywoodb> phish_:  try to cd to the /steam/ dir and then running wine <appname>
[04:06] <^^angusta> jesseman_, linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:06] <imbrandon> brb reboot
[04:06] <EoS666> ok thx for the help everyone, cya
[04:06] <^^angusta> use apt-get t install that
[04:07] <juztin> help!  when i right-click my trash can in gnome, and hit empty....it does nothing!  it just keeps buliding up and i now have like 300 items in it and i can't empty it!  what do i do?
[04:07] <hollywoodb> ^^angusta: check the nvidia driver release notes from nvidia's site, if it is supported it should work fine
[04:07] <LordFalcon> juztin, chmor -R 777 /home/$USER/.Trash
[04:07] <LordFalcon> try that
[04:07] <juztin> help!  when i right-click my trash can in gnome, and hit empty....it does nothing!  it just keeps buliding up and i now have like 300 items in it and i can't empty it!  what do i do?  this is the error i get : "/storage/.T...irthday.wma" cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder.
[04:07] <juztin> ah
[04:07] <juztin> ok thx LordFalcon
[04:07] <hollywoodb> juztin: try opening the trash and selecting "empty trash" from the file menu
[04:07] <LordFalcon> and then empty your trash
[04:08] <juztin> hollywoodb, thats the error i got with it open
[04:08] <LordFalcon> chmod -R 777 /home/$USER/.Trash
[04:08] <LordFalcon> I mean
[04:08] <LordFalcon> typo
[04:08] <^^angusta> it's listed under the nvidia supported cards, and works under other distrs
[04:08] <Frogzoo> !steam
[04:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, steam is http://www.steampowered.com
[04:08] <hollywoodb> juztin: ignore me, Falcon's got it
[04:08] <GillesM> salut
[04:09] <juztin> LordFalcon, i got the same error
[04:09] <Frogzoo> phish_: I'm pretty sure you'll find steam setup in the wiki, if that's not the correct url above
[04:09] <sander> No luck yet: The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
[04:09] <hollywoodb> ^^angusta: so it isn't working correctly under ubuntu? breezy or dapper?
[04:09] <GillesM> j'ai besoin d'installer une version plus recente de streamripper et je suis nouveau sous ubuntu
[04:09] <^^angusta> breezy or dapper
[04:09] <LordFalcon> juztin,hmm.. I tought it was something else, sorry
[04:09] <sander> I have the GTK2.0 and GTK2.0-dev installed now
[04:09] <_jason> !fr
[04:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:09] <juztin> np, thx anyway
[04:09] <juztin> help!  when i right-click my trash can in gnome, and hit empty....it does nothing!  it just keeps buliding up and i now have like 300 items in it and i can't empty it!  what do i do?  this is the error i get : "/storage/.T...irthday.wma" cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder.
[04:09] <^^angusta> neither, just hangs part way through loading, nothing in error log
[04:09] <mzuverink> On a fresh install of Dapper, what install errors can I expect during the process?  I tried an upgrade and my system was a real mess.  i would just like to know what specific know install errors are there, so that i am not suprised.
[04:09] <Frogzoo> phish_: I gotta head - I'm sure someone here will help you
[04:10] <_jason> !dapper
[04:10] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:10] <LordFalcon> sudo chmod -R 777 /home/$USER/.Trash
[04:10] <jessid> can somebody helpme?
[04:10] <LordFalcon> it should work
[04:10] <_jason> !helpme
[04:10] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:10] <martyn> imbrandon : ok i have isnatlled Myth tv how do i get it to start
[04:11] <juztin> LordFalcon, it gave me the same error :((
[04:11] <newbie33> how to extract tar.gz files in terminal?
[04:11] <^^angusta> man tar
[04:11] <_jason> !tar.gz
[04:11] <ubotu> I guess tar.gz is a compressed archive similar to a zip file.  tar zxvf filename.tar.gz to extract.
[04:11] <LordFalcon> juztin,hmm,.. I dont know then : / sorry
[04:12] <sander> After the installation of the GTK2.0-dev do I need to reboot or something ?
[04:12] <_jason> juztin: ls -ld ~/.Trash, what does that say?
[04:12] <|lostbyte|> !7z
[04:12] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, |lostbyte|
[04:12] <LordFalcon> juztin, cd /home/$USER/.Trash; sudo rm *;
[04:13] <LordFalcon> juztin, cd /home/$USER/.Trash; sudo rm *
[04:13] <LordFalcon> I thin
[04:13] <LordFalcon> k
[04:13] <martyn> I have just installed Myth Tv from the reporsty but can seem to find it or get it to work can any 1 help
[04:14] <juztin> LordFalcon, i figured it out......some of the trash i was trying to delete was located in /storage/.Trash-juztin...i just had to modify the command you gave me.  thanks!
[04:14] <phish_> Anyone here experianced with wine?
[04:14] <falcon3> \o_
[04:15] <_jason> ubotu: 7zip is <reply> You can use the Archive Manager to open 7zip files, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression for more info
[04:15] <ubotu> _jason: okay
[04:15] <Trunkz> Where am I able to download the 2.6.16-ck3 kernel headers?
[04:15] <martyn> I have just installed Myth Tv from the reporsty but can seem to find it or get it to work can any 1 help
[04:15] <phish_> in wine, why do i get the error "cannot load module bin/vgui.dll"?
[04:15] <blackline> anyone experiences trouble using vlc in ubuntu 5.10? i cant get any sound and serveral movies that worked just fine when i had fedora on the same computer locks up now..
[04:15] <Trunkz> phish_, go join #wine :)
[04:15] <eka> hi all
[04:15] <_jason> blackline: do you use esd or alsa?
[04:15] <sander> gtk-config
[04:15] <eka> anyone knows why quake 4 gives me segmentation faukt?
[04:16] <bluelotus_> hey, I'm using ndiswrapper on a WPC54G v3 linksys card.  I downloaded the driver for this from their website, installed it following the man pages etc... but I think there may be native support for this in Dapper and I may have crushed it.  I didn't note this when starting up... how do I purge myself of the ndiswrapper that I installed?
[04:16] <hollywoodb> phish_:  did you try to cd to the dir of the executable you're running and run wine from there?
[04:16] <blackline> _jason alsa was what i used before.. where can i see what i use now?
[04:16] <phish_> trunkz: empty :P
[04:16] <_jason> blackline: system > prefs > multimedia systems selector
[04:16] <mzuverink> Can someone tell if I will have a better running install doing a fresh install of Dapper rather than a upgrade over breezy?
[04:16] <phish_> hollywoodb: yes
[04:16] <hollywoodb> phish_: #winehq
[04:16] <Trunkz> _jason, can you point me in the right direction to where I might find the linux 2.6.16 headers?
[04:17] <_jason> Trunkz: 2.6.16 isn't in the repos right?
[04:17] <Trunkz> nope :o
[04:17] <_jason> kernel.org maybe?
[04:17] <Trunkz> I just compiled the kernel from a guide on the ubuntu forums
[04:17] <Trunkz> * checks *
[04:17] <blackline> _jason there is says "Ensonic AudioPCI".. remember that name from when i used fedora.
[04:18] <_jason> blackline: isn't their like a default out or soemthing?
[04:18] <_jason> there*
[04:18] <blackline> _jason in vlc it says Audio output module: Default.. and sound does work in general. so i have no idea
[04:19] <_jason> blackline: ah so you have no sound at all with anything?
[04:19] <blackline> _jason - no. sound work everywhere else
[04:19] <_jason> blackline: k, does the dialog you opened say anything about esd, alsa, oss?
[04:20] <pianoboy3333> How do you use the Generate Package Download Script in Synaptic?
[04:20] <blackline> _jason just in vlc it doesnt work.. and i havnt done any changes, just installed the vlc package with apt
[04:20] <sander> blackline: maybe you need a specific codec?
[04:20] <_jason> blackline: see you have to install vlc-plugin-esd or vlc-plugin-alsa depending on what you use and set it in preferences
[04:20] <blackline> sander - why would i need a codec for getting sound in vlc?
[04:20] <blackline> aah
[04:20] <blackline> ok
[04:21] <blackline> when i boot ubuntu it says "alsa starting" or something like that
[04:21] <guem> does anyone of you know if there is a standard port for DirectConnect Servers/Hubs ?
[04:21] <Trunkz> bleh
[04:21] <spike> hi there
[04:21] <Trunkz> I cant find the linux-headers o.o
[04:22] <martyn> can any 1 help with Myth Tv
[04:22] <sander> guem: Not anything standard I guess
[04:22] <guem> sander: what ports do you propose to "check" for ? :)
[04:22] <spike> I just dist-upgraded breezy to dapper and few things broke
[04:22] <sander> guem: I always see the port specified when I visit a hub
[04:22] <spike> namely networking
[04:22] <_jason> !dapper
[04:22] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:22] <blackline> _jason / sander - i installed the alsa plugin and now it works.. thanks
[04:22] <blackline> byw
[04:22] <blackline> bye
[04:23] <guem> sander: thing is.. i'd like to search my lan for any active hubs
[04:23] <Trunkz> _jason, still cant find the headers
[04:23] <fak3r> is this the right chan for ubuntuppc questions? (I don't see that chan on here
[04:24] <bluelotus_> how do I remove the default dapper drake drivers?
[04:24] <fak3r> does anyone have WPA working on PPC?
[04:24] <bluelotus_> more specifically, the default atheros-chipset based wifi card drivers
[04:25] <_jason> Trunkz: don't know, never really messed with that
[04:26] <Trunkz> ahh k :o
[04:26] <Sativa\\> guys, i installed ubuntu 5.10 but why i cant find apache, mysql on my system ?
[04:26] <sander> How do I install OpenGL? I thought it was installed cause Unreal Tournament 2004 is running fine, but apparently it isnt
[04:27] <sander> Sativa\\ : because this is for human beings :p
[04:27] <buithuhien> hi
[04:27] <keithhhhh> what is the minimum hard disk space to install ubuntu?
[04:27] <sander> Sativa\\ you can find them in the install applications utility and add them from there
[04:27] <_jason> keithhhhh: ~1.8gb
[04:28] <sander> Hi buithuhien!
[04:28] <fak3r> Sativa\\: click on Applications -> add/remove software
[04:28] <Sativa\\> ok i will try now :)
[04:28] <buithuhien> is there any soft to read .chm file
[04:28] <buithuhien> please help me
[04:28] <fak3r> keithhhhh: far less if you do a 'minimal' install -- at boot on the cd, choose 'minimal'
[04:28] <fyrestrtr> sander: did you install video card drivers for your video card?
[04:29] <fak3r> buithuhien: what is a chm file?
[04:29] <keithhhhh> jason ah!!!!
[04:29] <keithhhhh> Jason I think I figured my probs then
[04:29] <keithhhhh> Jason I have 1.8 right now  :D
[04:29] <keithhhhh> fak3r Ill give that a try   :D
[04:29] <fyrestrtr> fak3r: compiled help -- windows help file.
[04:29] <sander> If OpenGL is working in UT2004,does this mean the libraries are installed too, or do I need to look them up in Synaptic?
[04:29] <fak3r> sander: if you dope to a cmd line can you run glxgears?
[04:29] <fyrestrtr> sander: yes, means they are installed -- but what are you trying to do?
[04:29] <fak3r> sander: that should mean things are working, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[04:29] <sander> fyrestrtr: Yes, and UT2004 works great- definetly hardware accelaration :)
[04:29] <hollywoodb> sander: it is probably working, 'glxinfo | less' should give you some info
[04:29] <guem> buithuhien: gnochm ?
[04:30] <fyrestrtr> sander: then you have opengl working fine :)
[04:30] <fak3r> sander: yeah, glxinfo is a better way
[04:30] <fyrestrtr> sander: glxinfo | grep direct
[04:30] <sander> glxgears is running fine too
[04:30] <guem> buithuhien: "apt-cache search chm view"
[04:30] <sander> direct rendering: yes
[04:31] <fyrestrtr> sander: then don't worry, be happy
[04:31] <fyrestrtr> :)
[04:31] <fyrestrtr> and now, I'm going home
[04:31] <buithuhien> guem : thanks
[04:31] <sander> But I can't configure FSV :'(
[04:32] <fak3r> sander: FSV == ?
[04:32] <sander> FSV-0.9: http://fsv.sourceforge.net/
[04:32] <guem> guys.. i have a 2d (no dri and stuff) only graphics chip on my notebook .. is there any way to use software rendering or something to get a game running? (it worked pretty good with windows)
[04:32] <sander> guem: What chip is it?
[04:33] <guem> sander: sis650 or something
[04:33] <guem> 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[04:33] <tom_taz> hello
[04:33] <geno_> Wow, so much more peopel than 3 months ago here! :O
[04:34] <tom_taz> i'm new to linux and ubuntu...i just installed it yesterday...can somebody help me with a few questions ?
[04:34] <guem> tom_taz: ask right away
[04:34] <mram> tom_taz: what kinda of questions?
[04:34] <sander> Guem: Maybe you can get some info from here http://www.winischhofer.net/linux2.shtml
[04:35] <tom_taz> so far I don't have any problems except for, i'm not able to play a .mpg video
[04:35] <fak3r> rerun: does anyone have WPA wireless working on Ubuntu-PPC?
[04:35] <molar> ;
[04:35] <sander> guem: This page is not meant for absolute Linux beginners. You should at least know how to configure and compile a kernel.
[04:35] <tom_taz> i have a webpage, http://www.zacherfamily.com  and i have video's on there
[04:35] <mram> tom_taz: you need to install the gstreamer good and ugly from synaptic
[04:36] <tom_taz> i had downloaded a video and I wasn't able to play it...said i didn't have the correct codec
[04:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell tom_taz about multimedia
[04:36] <mram> tom_taz: have you heard of easy ubuntu?
[04:36] <tom_taz> i have totem 1.0.1
[04:37] <VE> tom_taz you need to get your video codecs thats why its not working
[04:37] <_jason> tom_taz: ubotu sent you some codecs you should install
[04:37] <fak3r> tom_taz: I would try mram's suggestion -- easy ubuntu will get the video codecs installed for you.  ubuntu doesn't have them by default, it's not a technical reason, it's a licencing issue
[04:38] <sander> tom_taz: You could also try adding XMMS
[04:38] <tom_taz> now comes the next newbie question...how do I install a file on linux? i'm very familiar with win xp with my 4 winxp computers at the house
[04:38] <sander> XMMS does come with some codecs apparently
[04:38] <plasmoduck> DCC SEND OMGWTFITSTHEDCCH4X0RBACKLOLZ
[04:38] <VE> heh
[04:39] <mram> tom_taz: fak3r is right it is a licencing issue, and with easy ubuntu you will be up and running in no time, you can get it at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[04:39] <_jason> !ops
[04:39] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[04:39] <VE> tom_taz pop open a terminal
[04:39] <VE> type
[04:39] <VE> sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:39] <sander> tom_taz: what program do you want to install?
[04:39] <VE> type your pass and it'll do it for you
[04:39] <bluelotus_> heh I'm doing a dist-upgrade with an alpha breezy.  Will this give me the beta?
[04:39] <tom_taz> w8 1....VE
[04:39] <_jason> bluelotus_: what is an alpha breezy?
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> jason, out of date ;)
[04:39] <mram> bluelotus_: it should, mine is a beta now
[04:40] <VE> no clue i'm running dapper
[04:40] <_jason> I would upgrade the breezy first
[04:40] <VE> why in 40 days or so dapper will be done
[04:40] <sander> Guys anyone know what is the difference between libopengl-dylan, -perl or -ruby?
[04:41] <tom_taz> VE could you send me an e-mail with instructions<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:41] <krg> Should I file a bug report on <https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs> for a grammar bug?
[04:41] <beta_m> sander:  well, my guess is that -perl is for perl programmes
[04:41] <VE> tom_taz do you have aim?
[04:41] <bluelotus_> _jason haha
[04:41] <VE> I'll talk you through it
[04:41] <bluelotus_> _jason alpha daper
[04:41] <tom_taz> VE could you do a private chat with me?
[04:41] <bluelotus_> sorry
[04:42] <sander> beta_ that sound reasonable :D
[04:42] <tom_taz> VE- negs I have google talk, msn messenger and yahoo messenger
[04:42] <bluelotus_> mram thanks I look forward to it :-P  hopefully beta will support atheros based chipsets better
[04:42] <beta_m> sander: isn't there a description ?
[04:42] <VE> google talk that like the gmail chat thing?
[04:42] <_jason> bluelotus_: yeah, should give you latest beta, #ubuntu+1 for dapper talk :)
[04:42] <beta_m> sander:  what are you using to install them?
[04:42] <tom_taz> yes the same as google chat
[04:42] <phoul> Hello is it possible to change the usplash screen
[04:42] <mram> bluelotus_: no problem, atheros chipset for wireless nic?
[04:42] <phoul> Like the boot splash I guess
[04:43] <VE> ok well my gmail is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:43] <newbie33> !aterm
[04:43] <bluelotus_> yah, mram.  The atheros that I have doesn't support scanning and won't connect... like using the wrong driver with ndiswrapper
[04:43] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, newbie33
[04:43] <sander> I am looking for OpenGL libraries in Synaptic, cause I am trying to .\configure FSV-0.9, but it says I need GL or MesaGL libraries
[04:43] <_jason> spam bots are going to grab your email since this channel is logged and put on the internet :/
[04:43] <phoul> anyone?
[04:43] <bluelotus_> thanks _jason
[04:43] <newbie33> is aterm better than simple terminal?
[04:44] <jimi> anyone know why i get such error plesae help http://pastebin.com/676879
[04:44] <phoul> _jason, do you kniw how?
[04:44] <sander> I am not familiar with MesaGL and I thought OpenGL already came with my Nvidia drivers
[04:44] <hollywoodb> newbie33: aterm is nice and fast, though I just use gnome-terminal these days
[04:44] <fak3r> ok all, have fun, gotta run
[04:44] <mram> bluelotus_: i see hopefully i won't the same problem when i get my laptop next month
[04:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell phoul about usplash
[04:44] <bluelotus_> mram lenovo is good about linux compatibility, what are you getting?
[04:44] <VE> tom_taz i'm in gmail chat, I've never used this so ya
[04:44] <slaterock> what's the easiest way to set up remote desktop between a linux and windows machine?
[04:44] <beta_m> sander:  i think i've installed Mesa when i needed it OpenGL capability for another programme
[04:45] <sander> Is that libglu1-mesa?
[04:45] <beta_m> sander:  hold on... i'll check what on earth i've installed... q;-)
[04:46] <VE> has anyone heard of xgl?
[04:46] <sander> Thanks beta_ :)
[04:46] <mram> bluelotus_: well i am currently as college student and I am planning on getting an HP because they give good discounts and plus one of my buddies has a compaq and ubuntu worked well except for the wireless issue which we fixed on our own with a bit or research on the net
[04:47] <kestas> anyone have any experience with ubuntu and dual screens?
[04:47] <DarkED> are there any wireless tools for linux where i can see what networks are around me instead of having to know the name
[04:47] <VE> ya me I failed mesirably though
[04:47] <DarkED> ?
[04:47] <phoul> _jason,  Is there a tutoriel in putting a picture on your grub boot loader?
[04:47] <kestas> VE: :(
[04:47] <sander> kestas: What you need to know? I know I had some trouble getting DVI working here
[04:47] <Tr0nAd0r> hi
[04:47] <fensta> hey guys.. how do I update gnome?
[04:47] <_jason> phoul: maybe, search the wiki and forums.  I remember seeing it somewhere
[04:47] <kestas> sander: just wondering how hard it is, one of the main reasons I moved back to windows was so that I could use the dual screen functionality of my laptop
[04:48] <VE> kestas i got the dual screens working though the color was off on one of the moniter
[04:48] <sander> phoul: Yes, the unofficial guide says something about it
[04:48] <mirak> is there a way to start a new X with a login screen without restarting GDM ?
[04:48] <kestas> sander: but Im not sure how well linux would cope with me closing screens or unplugging the monitor or something
[04:48] <mram> DarkED: i belive so, i ran into one when i was in the Add and Remove programs, under that search for network you will sure to see one that will do just that
[04:48] <sander> kestas: I think if you do some research on the net it should be no problem
[04:49] <_jason> mirak: do you just want another login screen or do you actually want to start X again somehow?
[04:49] <animato> hello, does anyone know of any GUI video converters for ubuntu?
[04:49] <sander> kestas: You might have to do some editing of some files though
[04:49] <beta_m> sander:  i have libgl1-mesa (and -dev to compile myself) and libglu1-mesa (also with -dev) also i have mesa-utils... but i think that was an overkill
[04:49] <mirak> _jason: hem
[04:49] <Tr0nAd0r> any can help me
[04:49] <sander> beta_ those are in Synaptic?
[04:49] <_jason> !helpme
[04:49] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:49] <beta_m> yes
[04:49] <Tr0nAd0r> i have a error with the Encore Network card
[04:49] <mirak> _jason: I want to start a Xgl server, but when I try to run another login session from gnome it fails for Xgl
[04:50] <animato> ?
[04:50] <tom_taz> VE - it said your offline and can't accept chat att
[04:50] <tom_taz> i did send you an e-mail from my google acct
[04:50] <VE> tom_taz
[04:50] <VE> thats insane
[04:50] <DarkED> mram: thanks
[04:50] <slaterock> anyone?
[04:50] <_jason> mirak: try #ubuntu-xgl too, I don't know about xgl
[04:50] <slaterock> remote desktop?
[04:50] <Tr0nAd0r> I compile the driver of my ethernet card but i cannot start it
[04:50] <VE> tom_taz
[04:50] <Tr0nAd0r> i have this error:
[04:50] <mram> DarkED: no problem
[04:50] <Tr0nAd0r> sundance: version magic '2.6.12-9-386 386 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.12-9-386 386 gcc-3.4
[04:50] <tom_taz> VE - send me an e-mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:51] <VE> is there a way we can start a private chat here
[04:51] <mirak> _jason: what's the program that run a new session ?
[04:51] <beta_m> Tr0nAd0r:  you need to get gcc3 to compile whatever you are working on
[04:51] <_jason> mirak: not sure
[04:52] <tom_taz> VE - this is my first time using it, but you can right click on my name and direct client - offer chat
[04:52] <beta_m> Tr0nAd0r:  go to Synaptic Package Mannager and intall gcc3
[04:52] <Tr0nAd0r> i have it
[04:52] <bluelotus_> mram, aye HP are really good.  I have a client who used to swear by them until his work bought him an Emperor Linux Lenovo :-P
[04:52] <beta_m> ok then do in terminal "which gcc"
[04:52] <Tr0nAd0r> i must unistall gcc-4??
[04:52] <kestas> Tr0nAd0r: you have to specify which compiler to use when you ./configure
[04:52] <beta_m> no you don't need to do that
[04:52] <kestas> Tr0nAd0r: ./configure --help
[04:52] <ScrappyDoo> Can anyone offer any ideas on how to change the refresh rate on my system - I have a Nvidia 6200 Graphics Card, and seem to be failing quite well on installing the latest driver from NVidia, cannot get it to install
[04:52] <Tr0nAd0r> i edit the Makefile and change the "CC" to gcc-3.4
[04:53] <Tr0nAd0r> but i have the same error
[04:53] <kestas> Tr0nAd0r: if it has a configure script that's where you should change the CC
[04:53] <sander> Beta_ It asks for some more packages now, but I think I am getting there :)
[04:53] <Tr0nAd0r> how i configure gcc-3.4 as the default compiler??
[04:53] <mooey> is there any way to disable a specific kernel module being loaded on boot? I want to use ndiswrapper instead of the native linux driver
[04:53] <Tr0nAd0r> it dont have configure script
[04:53] <pip> Hello,I need help
[04:53] <beta_m> sander:  install whatever it asks for, those are just dependencies
[04:53] <VE> tom_taz i'm just going to send you an email
[04:53] <Tr0nAd0r> i have the source and makefile
[04:53] <VE> i'm just making sure my instructions work
[04:54] <der0b> what are the chances that the latest ver of xchat is going to make it into breezy repositories?
[04:54] <pip> can I play 3D games on linux ?
[04:54] <sander> make
[04:54] <tom_taz> i'll reply as soon as I get it...i also sent an e-mail to you
[04:54] <VE> tom_taz
[04:54] <sander> Whoops sorry
[04:54] <mathieu> hi, is it possible to have a list of essid to connect to?
[04:54] <VE> real quick question
[04:54] <mathieu> instead of just having one
[04:54] <sander> pip: Try Unreal Tournament 2004: It is the best!
[04:54] <tom_taz> VE
[04:54] <VE> do you have univers and multivers repositorys enabled
[04:54] <mooey> mathieu: iwconfig scanning should do it
[04:54] <tom_taz> yeah
[04:54] <beta_m> Tr0nAd0r:  if you do "which gcc" in the terminal, it'll tell you which gcc gets run
[04:55] <VE> tom_taz good this will work then
[04:55] <tom_taz> VE
[04:55] <sander> pip: You can find a demo on the unrealtournament.com website
[04:55] <mirak> gdmflexiserver fails to run Xgl
[04:55] <mathieu> mooey: i want to provide a list of essid's to connect to automatically. i don't want to discover them. i already know them
[04:55] <tom_taz> i can't tell what that is...so i'm not sure
[04:55] <Tr0nAd0r> /usr/bin/gcc
[04:55] <pip> sander, I dont know how to install 3D games on linux
[04:55] <beta_m> Tr0nAd0r:  must be a redirect then...
[04:55] <datacrusher> hi people!
[04:56] <sander> pip you have your video driver installed?
[04:56] <Tr0nAd0r>  rm gcc
[04:56] <mram> bluelotus_: :-) well Lenovo used to IBM, it's odd that they a good linux support and yet really good, AMD just announced that they will support linux more now.
[04:56] <beta_m> nooooo
[04:56] <pip> sander, unreal ? is it a physics engin ?
[04:56] <VE> tom_taz the email is sent
[04:56] <Tr0nAd0r> ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[04:56] <beta_m> don't do that Tr0nAd0r
[04:56] <pip> sander, yes
[04:56] <datacrusher> hey, what good c++ compiler to use with ubuntu?
[04:56] <Tr0nAd0r> gcc is a symlink
[04:56] <datacrusher> and developer too..
[04:56] <beta_m> you need to edit the makefile manually then to put in the path to the correct one
[04:56] <datacrusher> like dev or sort of
[04:56] <pip> datacrusher, GCC
[04:56] <sander> pip: Go to UnrealTournament.com; It is a great game and also available as an engine
[04:56] <Tr0nAd0r> i remove it and link to gcc-3.4
[04:57] <tom_taz> VE - i'll go check it
[04:57] <sander> pip: I am doing an internship with that engine :)
[04:57] <datacrusher> hm.. on the dirsto already have the gcc?
[04:57] <beta_m> well, if you want to go about it this way... ok
[04:57] <pip> sander, In fact I want to play Balance
[04:57] <fensta> hey guys.. how do I update gnome?
[04:57] <datacrusher> unreal is pretty good
[04:57] <beta_m> but don't forget that you've done that
[04:57] <beta_m> q;-)
[04:57] <Tr0nAd0r> the kernel have a configure script for the modules??
[04:57] <fensta> I installed 5.1 but it has older gnome
[04:57] <pip> sander, so good
[04:57] <sander> pip: You can download a free demo of the game from the website (also for windows and mac)
[04:57] <bluelotus_> mram, I look forward to all the new linux shit that's happening.  It's quite exciting to come from the tweaking times of linux as it slowly progresses towards user-friendly.
[04:58] <sander> bluelotus_ : Still too slow sometimes :P
[04:58] <TokenBad> ok can someone help me...I am trying to apply the 3355 patch for ut2004..and everytime do the tar -xf ut2004-lnxpatch.tar or whatever..it goes through giving me all these errors..and also does the same if trying to use sudo...
[04:58] <datacrusher> [pip] : i dont have internet at home, where my ubuntu its installed.. do i have to download some librarys, or the gcc itself?
[04:58] <mram> bluelotus_: yes it is. plus ubuntu looks so good, with new icons and new color for the clearlooks theme
[04:58] <sander> Tokenbad: Try the 3369 update
[04:58] <sander> Tokenbad: google for it
[04:58] <TokenBad> I didn't see a 3369 patch for linux..
[04:59] <sander> TokenBad: on the website there is only 3355 but some other sites have the 3369 for Linu too
[04:59] <pip> datacrusher, OK! I think you should install GCC
[05:00] <sander> TokenBad: Look at gamershell
[05:00] <Frogzoo> datacrusher: build-essential
[05:00] <mram> bluelotus_: one of main reason i want a hp laptop is becuse i want a amd turion64
[05:00] <TokenBad> sander, thanks found it...
[05:00] <Tr0nAd0r> i must set a $compiler var??
[05:00] <TokenBad> also in tar...how can use it to do bz2 files?
[05:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell TokenBad about tar
[05:01] <Frogzoo> TokenBad: option j
[05:01] <bluelotus_> mram, I'm afraid to go into 64bit processing until it's more supported.
[05:02] <mram> bluelotus_: good thing about the amd ones they are highly backwards compatable, my friend has a AMD64 and it runs 32bit apps with no problem what so ever
[05:02] <Tr0nAd0r> i exec the gcc-version.sh script
[05:02] <sander> TokenBad just extract the file and run the script
[05:02] <Tr0nAd0r> and i have the error
[05:03] <Tr0nAd0r> line 12: -E: command not found
[05:03] <bluelotus_> mram that's good to know.  I'll be in the market soon so I'll keep that in mind.
[05:03] <sander> TokenBad: It will ask for your installation directory
[05:03] <datacrusher> [pip] : is there a place i can download it here, and burn it to read on my pc at home?
[05:03] <pip> sander, do you know virtools?
[05:03] <Tr0nAd0r> and the version showed is 0000
[05:03] <datacrusher> the gcc and its librarys?
[05:03] <sander> People I have FSV running! :D :D :D
[05:03] <sander> Pip: virtools? No, what is it?
[05:03] <mram> bluelotus_: :-)
[05:03] <pip> datacrusher, You can find it with google
[05:03] <Large_Box> hello, I forgot to change my clock now that I've corrected it I get an error from sudo saying
[05:04] <Large_Box> sudo: timestamp too far in the future how can I correct this?
[05:04] <ferronica> i am unable to modify menu.list
[05:04] <pip> sander, http://www.virtools.com/ have a look,cool
[05:04] <datacrusher> [pip] : thanks
[05:04] <phace> ferronica: sudo menu.list
[05:04] <ferronica> what i do
[05:04] <ferronica> unable to edit menu.list
[05:04] <ferronica> ok
[05:05] <beta_m> ferronica:  who are you trying to edit it?
[05:05] <beta_m> er. how
[05:05] <ferronica> boot
[05:05] <phace> ferronica: sudo vi menu.list
[05:05] <phace> sorry my mistake
[05:05] <phace> :)
[05:05] <phace> e
[05:05] <ferronica> not opened
[05:05] <ferronica> what command
[05:05] <AnAnt> I have the Ubuntu DVD on one machine on the network
[05:05] <ferronica> beta???
[05:06] <buithuhien> hi
[05:06] <pip> sander, how do you find it ?
[05:06] <buithuhien> i have a bin file
[05:06] <AnAnt> how can I install it on another machine via local network?
[05:06] <buithuhien> how can i install it
[05:06] <buithuhien> ?
[05:06] <TokenBad> sander, what script..its alot of files
[05:06] <sander> pip: find what?
[05:06] <phace> ferronica: sudo vi menu.list
[05:06] <beta_m> ferronica:  i'm getting lost in what you are asking, is the file not opening, or is it opening read only?
[05:06] <sander> TokenBad: Wait I download it again and look what I did :)
[05:06] <munzir> Hi, If I need to configure my static ip, should I leave that auto eth0 or remove it?
[05:06] <sander> TokenBad you have the release version not the demo right?
[05:06] <Bone`> buithuhien: have you burned the bin file to a CD?
[05:06] <beta_m> ferronica:  phace tells you how to open it if you have the latter problem
[05:07] <TokenBad> sander, yes
[05:07] <jenda> I need a script that'll add a file to the xmms playlist without blanking it. Any ideas?
[05:07] <ferronica> file is opening
[05:07] <ferronica> but unable to edit
[05:07] <beta_m> are you sure you start with "sudo"
[05:07] <ferronica> i wanna make some changes there
[05:07] <beta_m> what editor are you using?
[05:08] <ferronica> rootnoverify         (hd2,0) to rootnoverify         (hd2,1)
[05:08] <ferronica> this change
[05:08] <AnAnt> ?
[05:08] <beta_m> ok, which programme are you using to edit
[05:08] <ferronica> getedit
[05:08] <buithuhien> Bone : no
[05:08] <phace> ferronica: are you reading what i wrote ???  here how it shoud look * phace@cartmanland:/boot/grub$ sudo vi menu.lst
[05:08] <phace>  *
[05:08] <sander> TokenBad: You have this one: http://www.gamershell.com/download_11755.shtml?
[05:08] <buithuhien> i see that the bin file can run directly , alright?
[05:08] <TokenBad> sander, yes
[05:09] <Bone`> buithuhien: if you're trying to do a boot install you'll have to burn it to a cd
[05:09] <beta_m> ferronica:  i don't even know what getedit is, but do what phace told you
[05:09] <Bone`> buithuhien: in order to run a bin file directly you'll need a CD emulator like Daemon Tools, which requires that the OS is on
[05:09] <beta_m> ferronica:  go to the terminal, and change to the directory where menu.list is
[05:09] <ferronica> in top of menu list written
[05:09] <sander> TokenBad: I am downloading it to my desktop now, you did the same?
[05:09] <fensta> hey guys.. can someone please help me update gnome?
[05:10] <fensta> it isnt showing up in software updates
[05:10] <jdmpike> I can't get xorg.conf to output to my HDTV - during boot, it outputs 1920x1080i,  but then when x tries to start... it falls apart... not how it works with Windows...
[05:10] <ferronica> 'menu.list[read only]  (/boot/grub) - gedit
[05:10] <TokenBad> I downloaded it to a spot on my drive..not my desktop though..cause I don't have ut2004 on my main drive
[05:10] <AnsiC> hello
[05:10] <ethel> cc
[05:10] <AnsiC> deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[05:10] <AnsiC> deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[05:10] <AnsiC> if i have the second line
[05:10] <AnsiC> can i delete the firsth?
[05:10] <phace> ferronica: listen... try it like this... open the terminal... enter sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.list
[05:11] <_jason> AnsiC: no, they are different.  One gives you updates
[05:11] <sander> TokenBad, okay I think it will be the same, I have UT2004 in my personal folder
[05:11] <AnAnt> I have the Ubuntu DVD on one machine on the network. How can I install it on another machine via local network?
[05:11] <beta_m> ferronica: ok do this: go to terminal and type "gksudo gedit"
[05:11] <TokenBad> but what mine did was make a dir called ut2004-patch...and alot of dirs and files inside that..but no file for installing it that I can see...
[05:11] <mirak> is Fedora nice to use ? I am using ubuntu since warty, I am wondering if I really miss something not trying something else
[05:11] <beta_m> ferronica: it is *the only way* to do this...
[05:11] <sander> TokenBad: You did install UT2004 from Linux right? You are not trying to patch a Windows-UT2004?
[05:11] <beta_m> you must be root
[05:11] <Frogzoo> fensta: gnome won't be upgraded until dapper is released
[05:11] <TokenBad> it is linux..yes
[05:12] <phace> mirak: fedora sux... i migrated recently from Fedora to Ubuntu =)
[05:12] <buithuhien> bone : sorry i don't understand
[05:12] <Frogzoo> fensta: or to be more precise, it won't be upgraded - you'll need to move to dapper, when it's released
[05:12] <buithuhien> i think that i only download it from internet and install it
[05:12] <LazyAngel> hi! i'm trying to reinstall my gf's win xp. But there is something wrong with her cdrom driver. So i was thinking of copying the factory restoration cd to an external harddrive and make that bootable. Would that be possible?
[05:12] <fensta> well there is a newer gnome out than what I have now
[05:12] <beta_m> ferronica:  did you do that?
[05:12] <sander> TokenBad: sorry download is very slow
[05:12] <fensta> can I not update gnome manually?
[05:12] <mirak> phace: what is bad ?
[05:12] <TokenBad> thats ok
[05:12] <phace> LazyAngel: ROFL
[05:13] <Frogzoo> fensta: not easily, if you're an expert yes, otherwise, don't try
[05:13] <fensta> erm
[05:13] <ferronica> nothing opend
[05:13] <mirak> phace: what sucks ?
[05:13] <LazyAngel> phase: whats the funny part?
[05:13] <pip> sander, virtools
[05:13] <phace> mirak: well it's okay for a beginner but it's kind of crapy when comparing it with ubuntu... one nice thing about fedora you have most of the packages on the dvd but on ubuntu you have to download... + fedora doesnt have mp3 support... =)
[05:13] <fensta> this makes little sense to me... updates arent available until a new OS version is rlsd?
[05:14] <sander> pip, what is virtools?
[05:14] <beta_m> ferronica:  you should have had the password prompt, did you type your password there?
[05:14] <mirak> phace: what is crappy ?
[05:14] <ferronica> sudo /boot/grub/m
[05:14] <mirak> phace: it's not easier to configure ?
[05:14] <pip> sander, http://www.virtools.com/
[05:14] <ferronica> sudo /boot/grub/menu.list
[05:14] <Frogzoo> fensta: that's how ubuntu/debian work - they only release security fixes
[05:14] <ferronica> i typed this one
[05:14] <sander> pip: looking at virtools.com now :)
[05:14] <_jason> fensta: ubuntu makes a stable release every 6 months and then provides security updates until the next stable release, that way... things are stable :)
[05:14] <mirak> phace: I will give it a shot I think. That's the other major distribution. mandriva sucks I already used it at the begining
[05:14] <Frogzoo> fensta: take a look at firefox - same deal
[05:14] <ferronica> didnt asked me password
[05:15] <fensta> but these updates add features do they not?
[05:15] <beta_m> ferronica type this "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list" (without quotes) and type pass when asked
[05:15] <Frogzoo> fensta: no, for new features, you need to wait for a new release
[05:15] <pip> sander, so you are an expert on graphics ?
[05:15] <fensta> but is what im saying is there is a new gnome release
[05:15] <phace> mirak: well... you have the pirut tool that sucks (add/remove programs), you cannot run it if you are not connected on the INet. You cannot install from the DVD after the install at all... it searchs from the repositories and downloads the updated versions...
[05:15] <sander> pip: I study Media and Knowledge Engineering
[05:15] <Frogzoo> fensta: besides, dapper's release is only 5 weeks off
[05:16] <Bone`> buithuhien: Bin files are all CD date
[05:16] <klos> where do i find a softwareraid partition ?
[05:16] <sander> pip: Not an expert yet :p
[05:16] <TokenBad> sander, just let me know when you figure it out...maybe I am missing something
[05:16] <ferronica> hey a new menu.list has been opened
[05:16] <klos> i only find the sda/sdb partitions
[05:16] <ferronica> i wanna edit small thing
[05:16] <emma-chan> hi hi
[05:16] <ferronica> not whole
[05:16] <Bone`> buithuhien: err sorry, Bin files are all CD data, in order to run it it must be on CD
[05:16] <sander> Tokenbad: 18.2MB now
[05:16] <sander> You extracted all the files TokenBad?
[05:16] <TokenBad> yes
[05:16] <beta_m> ferronica:  what do you mean "not whole"
[05:17] <fensta> what about if openoffice has a new rls.. I cant update it until the new ubuntu rls?
[05:17] <phace> ferronica: how stupd are you ? open the terminal and enter the following command: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.list
[05:17] <phace> stupid *
[05:17] <mirak> phace: I am not sure I ever want to try gentoo again lol
[05:17] <TokenBad> sander, I did tar -xjf ut2004-lnxpatch3369.tar.bz2
[05:17] <sta1> hey, isn't ubuntu going to fix the keyboard layout selector ? :)
[05:17] <Bone`> does Ubuntu come with its on program for getting on newgroups?
[05:17] <phace> mirak: gentoo is nice... but it takes long to install it :)
[05:17] <ferronica> a blank menu.list opened
[05:17] <sander> TokenBad, I just right click and do "extract here" :)
[05:17] <emma-chan> Arch is good stuff.
[05:17] <sander> I am GUI oriented :)
[05:17] <emma-chan> It is like Gentoo with a sane install time. ^.^
[05:18] <danny_> ya i agree
[05:18] <emma-chan> But Ubuntu is easy to use.
[05:18] <beta_m> ferronica:  go into "File->open" and open it that way
[05:18] <emma-chan> :)
[05:18] <emma-chan> So Ubuntu for my parents it is. ;)
[05:18] <Frogzoo> !tell fensta about ooo2
[05:18] <ferronica> u mean file system
[05:18] <beta_m> ferronica:  you should be able to edit any file this way
[05:18] <ferronica> ok
[05:18] <beta_m> yes
[05:18] <danny_> well i think we should all eat rce and beans
[05:18] <Frogzoo> fensta: read the pm from ubotu, there is an update for oo
[05:18] <jimi> how to check if my kernel has netfiler support?
[05:18] <ferronica> now its opened
[05:18] <beta_m> ferronica:  gksudo gives you permissions to do anything in the graphical programme
[05:19] <ferronica> but unable to edit
[05:19] <beta_m> huh?
[05:19] <ferronica> i cant edit anything
[05:19] <mirak> phace: I don't like there crappy handbook
[05:19] <sander> TokenBad, I am stupid :p
[05:19] <fensta> so basically they do updates between the ubuntu rls based on importance.. and then at ubuntu rls time they update everything?
[05:19] <mirak> phace: as well as installing all from command line
[05:19] <mdke> it seems that ~/bin isn't in my path, how can I add it?
[05:19] <phace> mirak: well the handbook is really helpful =)
[05:19] <GoZeR> yeah
[05:19] <sander> Tokenbad, you just need to extract the files in your UT2004 folder
[05:19] <GoZeR> this is a real network
[05:19] <mirak> phace: well the problem is you really need it
[05:19] <GoZeR> 751 users on #Ubuntu
[05:19] <TokenBad> so don't let it make the ut-patch dir?
[05:20] <sander> Or copy the extracted files over the installed files
[05:20] <sander> Exactly
[05:20] <beta_m> ferronica:  i think you've done something differently then
[05:20] <phace> mirak: no i dont need it anymore =)
[05:20] <mirak> phace: I mean with debian there is debconf, so you do everything not from command line :)
[05:20] <emma-chan> GoZeR: There are fake networks too? O.o
[05:20] <beta_m> because you *must* be able to edit it as root
[05:20] <sander> Or copy them from UT2004-patch to UT2004
[05:20] <GoZeR> emma-chan, yeap
[05:20] <beta_m> i can definitely edit mine... i've opened it for edit just now
[05:20] <emma-chan> GoZeR: kk
[05:20] <emma-chan> I wuv you guys
[05:20] <Frogzoo> fensta: officially, the oo update is a test release - it's not part of breezy
[05:21] <FlameSphere> is there a media player that plays wma
[05:21] <ferronica> but i cant Y?
[05:21] <mdke> FlameSphere, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:21] <emma-chan> FlameSphere: audacious
[05:21] <Bone`> is there a recommended program (or does Ubutu come with one?) for getting onto Usenet?
[05:21] <Frogzoo> fensta: usually people will use backports to keep up to date, but the backports aren't official
[05:21] <ferronica> do i need to login as a root user
[05:21] <ferronica> or what
[05:21] <emma-chan> Oh wait.
[05:21] <fensta> Frogzoo.. Im just new to linux/ubuntu and I odnt understand how updates happen
[05:21] <Frogzoo> !tell fensta about seveas
[05:21] <FlameSphere> is there a media player that plays wma
[05:21] <pdlnhrd> is there a special way to burn a dvd9 disc? i am trying to burn an iso to a dvd9 and it keeps failing
[05:21] <beta_m> Bone`:  you can use Thunderbird
[05:22] <mdke> FlameSphere, don't repeat yourself, especially when you're question has been answered twice
[05:22] <FlameSphere> it has
[05:22] <emma-chan> !ask
[05:22] <Bone`> ok
[05:22] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[05:22] <beta_m> FlameSphere, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:22] <Bone`> Ubuntu doesn't happen to come with Thunderbird does it?
[05:22] <ferronica> what i do
[05:22] <FlameSphere> oh, ok
[05:22] <ferronica> please
[05:22] <FlameSphere> thanks
[05:22] <Bone`> seeing as it comes with Firefox
[05:22] <emma-chan> I doubt that ubotu has Chuck Norris quotes, but that is a start. XD
[05:22] <emma-chan> !chuck
[05:22] <ubotu> emma-chan: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:23] <beta_m> Bone`:  go to "Add programmes"
[05:23] <emma-chan> darn
[05:23] <Bone`> ahh okay