[12:25] <scythetleppo> is there a ubuntu support channel?
[12:25] <Pricey> scythetleppo, You have  been re-directed here.
[12:25] <Pricey> scythetleppo, We do not allow proxy users into the main channel without "cloaks".
[12:25] <nalioth> scythetleppo: please connect directly to freenode if you are able
[12:25] <nalioth> due to abuse, gateway users are not allowed in #ubuntu
[12:26] <scythetleppo> oh I see what you're saying
[12:26] <scythetleppo> cuz im using irc@work
[12:26] <scythetleppo> I can't use any ports so I have to use the http irc =/
[12:26] <scythetleppo> since I'm at school
[12:26] <nalioth> port 8001 doesn't work?
[12:26] <scythetleppo> i can't even ping
[12:27] <scythetleppo> lemme check
[12:27] <scythetleppo> nope... 'Error: I could not see your service on unknown on port (8001)'
[12:27] <scythetleppo> i cant download torrents or irc or do other various things
[12:28] <ompaul> a good admin then doing what they should
[12:28] <scythetleppo> well it's our servers and then they are run through ipcop and then through another school, with their ipcop too, plus all kinds of blockage.. =] ]
[12:29] <scythetleppo> alright well I'll go with another flavor cuz I might need support and I can't be going home everytime I want to irc =/
[12:29] <scythetleppo> see ya thanks
[12:29] <Pricey> scythetleppo, Your best bet is then to get cloaked
[12:30] <Pricey> :(
[12:56] <nalioth> too much work being done here
[12:57] <PriceChild> nalioth, Could you remove the dcc ban on livingdaylight_ ?
[12:57] <livingdaylight_> and livingdaylight
[12:57] <nalioth> is he clean?
[12:57] <PriceChild> Yup :)
[12:57] <PriceChild> finally............ ;)
[12:57] <nalioth> are YOU clean?
[12:57] <livingdaylight_> i had a bath this morning
[12:57] <PriceChild> hehe I showered earlier 8-)
[12:58] <PriceChild> nalioth, see... isn't "clean" so much shorter to type? :P
[12:58] <livingdaylight_> i normally use livingdaylight
[12:58] <PriceChild> livingdaylight_, the ban did livingdaylight*
[12:58] <PriceChild> Thanks nalioth :D
[12:58] <livingdaylight_> thanks PriceChild
[12:59] <livingdaylight_> i wonder how long this will hold
[12:59] <livingdaylight_> because i've been through this already once
[12:59] <PriceChild> livingdaylight_, Well obviously you went back to 6667 :) Not our fault :P
[01:00] <livingdaylight_> no, i have ubuntu servers set to 8001 also, but it bans me
[01:00] <livingdaylight_> PriceChild, shall i come in under ubuntuservers?
[01:00] <livingdaylight_> you'll see
[01:00] <PriceChild> livingdaylight_, I managed to disconnect you though :)
[01:00] <PriceChild> livingdaylight_, the ubuntu server just goes to irc.freenode.net However you connect to freenode, make sure its on port 8001
[01:00] <livingdaylight_> yea, but that was freenode
[01:01] <livingdaylight_> well there was a guide that said to use ubuntuserver in xchat and put the line you gave me which i did
[01:02] <PriceChild> Ah well you're definitely fixed now :)
[01:02] <PriceChild> freenode and ubuntu irc are the same
[01:02] <livingdaylight_> oh, ok
[01:02] <livingdaylight_> oh,well whatever, i'm confused, but it works now so...
[01:03] <livingdaylight_> thanks again
[01:03] <PriceChild> woo :)
[01:03] <livingdaylight_> gonna leave this chanel now....its a bit creepy here :d
[01:03] <PriceChild> Haha
[01:04] <livingdaylight_> ^^
[01:05] <effie_jayx> creepy ???
[01:05] <effie_jayx> lol
[01:08] <effie_jayx> :(
[01:09] <effie_jayx> :D
[01:17] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: i didnt do it.  whatever it was.
[01:18] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  don't worry bud ... it was the long pointy stick of doom and stuff :D
[01:18] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: no, otherwise then the removal message would have been DOOM!
[01:19] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  ok... I'll file a bug on launchpad ;)
[01:20] <Hobbsee> hah
[10:12] <cbx33> is this possible?
[10:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> i think so. look at powernowd, and perhaps /proc/ (i forget where exactly :S)
[11:41] <GazzaK> !tor
[11:41] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[11:41] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[11:56] <daviey> Hi, can i join the 'unaffiliated' project? ;)
[12:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> !cloaks | daviey
[12:00] <ubotu> daviey: Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[12:02] <daviey> Kamping_Kaiser, I understand that - but i really wanted to join the 'unaffiliated' project
[12:02] <GazzaK> daviey, it's not a project
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> daviey, tehn you dont understand, or your a troll
[12:03] <daviey> Kamping_Kaiser, i'm certainly not a troll; but i understand that it is a 'project cloak' so i was told to ask here
[12:03] <daviey> (by GazzaK )
[12:04] <GazzaK> no daviey, I never said @unaffiliated was a project, I said it was a cloak
[12:04] <mneptok> daviey: in any event, this channel cannot help you
[12:05] <daviey> thanks GazzaK - now i look the fool!
[12:05] <daviey> bye
[12:05] <GazzaK> mneptok, oops, you try to help, and they throw it back at ya
[12:08] <mneptok> GazzaK: wait 'til they ask to borrow the car. or give the cat genital warts.
[12:19] <Seveas> nalioth / SportChick either of you around?
[12:39] <Hobbsee> hey GazzaK!
[12:40] <LP002> hi guys....I've just put a second graphics card into my machine
[12:41] <LP002> argh
[12:41] <LP002> wrong channel
[12:41] <LP002> sorry again guys
[12:45] <Hobbsee> cbx33: hehe,t ry again
[12:45] <cbx33> yeh got it fixed now
[12:45] <cbx33> trying to setup a dual head machine
[12:45] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:45] <cbx33> but not sure how to get he information for the second graphics card
[12:45] <cbx33> you don;t know doyou?
[12:45] <Hobbsee> nope
[12:46] <cbx33> like the BUSID etc
[12:46] <cbx33> rarg :p
[12:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> cbx33, tried `X -configure`?
[12:46] <cbx33> Kamping_Kaiser: no
[12:46] <cbx33> I've backed up my xorg config
[12:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> cbx33, try it :P
[12:46] <cbx33> ok
[12:49] <apokryphos> Hobbsee: don't have my scripts :(
[12:50] <popey> cbx33: lspci?
[12:50] <cbx33> popey: YAY
[12:50] <cbx33> you're here
[12:50] <popey> :)
[12:50] <popey> uhm, yes
[12:50] <cbx33> so
[12:50] <cbx33> once i have that information
[12:50] <cbx33> like
[12:50] <cbx33> 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[12:50] <apokryphos> why is there support going on in here?
[12:51] <cbx33> sorry...
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos, my smile :)
[12:51] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: #ubuntu please
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> no thanks, i'm not after support
[12:51] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: as in, help them in #ubuntu please instead.
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos, oh, no thanks anyway.
[12:52] <cbx33> sorry apokryphos was my fault
[12:53] <Tm_T> apokryphos: Mooh.
[12:53] <apokryphos> Tm_T: quack
[12:53] <apokryphos> cbx33: no problem, just ask in #ubuntu :)
[12:56] <Hobbsee> !search xvid
[12:56] <ubotu> Found: fixvideo, screencast-#ubuntu-effects, fixvideoresolution, x, xvid, xgl-#ubuntu-effects
[12:56] <Hobbsee> !search xvidicap
[12:56] <ubotu> Found:
[12:56] <Hobbsee> !search xvidcap
[12:56] <ubotu> Found: screencast-#ubuntu-effects
[12:56] <apokryphos> you're searching factoids :P
[12:57] <apokryphos> you need !find
[12:57] <Hobbsee> !find xvidcap
[12:57] <ubotu> Package/file xvidcap does not exist in edgy
[12:57] <Hobbsee> !find xvidicap
[12:57] <ubotu> Package/file xvidicap does not exist in edgy
[12:58] <popey> Hobbsee: get it from xvidcap.sf.net
[12:58] <Hobbsee> hrm
[12:58] <popey> there is a .deb there
[12:58] <cbx33> !xvidcap
[12:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:58] <Hobbsee> popey: nah, someone else was asking about it
[12:58] <mneptok> apokryphos: it's been $number days. hasn't this gone on long enough? i swear, i'm not a bad guy.
[12:58] <cbx33> it does exist
[12:58] <popey> well tell them then
[12:58] <mneptok>  /m apokryphos i'm really sorry. please let's forget it?
[12:58] <apokryphos> mneptok: since you asked so nicely, ok.
[12:58] <mneptok>  /m apokryphos I KILL YOU!
[12:58] <apokryphos> :O
[12:59] <GazzaK> kick im
[12:59] <mneptok> lather. rinse. repeat.
[12:59] <apokryphos> set it on a cron ;)
[12:59] <mneptok> jesus, now that you mention it ...
[12:59] <mneptok> *shuddder*
[01:00] <mneptok> REBOOT!
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> yay! mneptok has to go for repears
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> ... did i say that out loud? ;P
[01:01] <mneptok> Kamping_Kaiser: duh. haven't you been paying attention?
[01:01] <mneptok> if it's not obvious i need repairs, you may need some, too.
[01:02] <mneptok> fortunately, my boss is a quack.
[01:03] <mneptok> 19:03 -!- jbailey<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Orthodox medicine has not found an answer to your  complaint. However, luckily for you, I happen to be a quack.]
[01:54] <PFA> hey guys, i'm going "straight to the top" on this one. how do you pronounce "ubuntu"?
[01:55] <popey> *I* pronounce it oo-bun-too, some other pronounce it oo-boon-to, others oo-boon-too
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> PFA, its on the website... not sure we count as 'the top'
[01:55] <PFA> well seeing as that it's an actual *word*...
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> oo-boon-too is given on the website
[01:55] <popey> yeah, "grass" is an actual word, some pronounce it "graaaas", some "gras"
[01:56] <popey> it makes no difference to me how people pronounce it
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> yay for dialects
[01:56] <popey> :)
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:57] <popey> words are all about conveying meaning, i would know what you mean if you said oo-boon-too, oo-bun-too or yoo-bonn-too..
[01:57] <popey> so long as you spell it "Ubuntu" :)
[01:58] <PFA> OK, but don't shoot yourselves when there's a TV ad and they mispronounce it!  Might be worth keeping an eye out. I'm going to meet the Mez ;-)
[02:22] <popey> apokryphos: tonight?
[02:22] <apokryphos> right now 8)
[02:23] <apokryphos> if you're around, you should come by too =)
[02:23] <popey> thank you for offering
[02:23] <apokryphos> some people are keysigning
[02:23] <apokryphos> ok, no worries :)
[02:24] <elkbuntu> apokryphos, kenthomson is a persistant troll
[02:25] <mneptok> aha! popey!
[02:25] <popey> uh-oh
[02:25] <elkbuntu> popey!
[02:25] <mneptok> i *knew* i remembered that nick.
[02:25] <popey> eeek
[02:25] <popey> mneptok: from where?
 who's up next?
 o/ please
 in office alone
 getting scared
[02:25] <popey> :)
[02:25] <popey> that was a scary day
[02:25] <popey> ubuntu membership and alone in the office
[02:26] <mneptok> you have ones that aren't?
[02:26] <popey> a few
[02:26] <elkbuntu> popey, the ones that dont involve thinking about mneptok?
[02:26] <mneptok> what god(s) do you worship, and what do they require of me?
[02:26] <popey> is that a serious question mneptok ?
[02:27] <mneptok> if you have non-scary days, yes. ;)
[02:27] <elkbuntu> popey, unless he's talking in #ubuntu, dont take anything he says seriously
[02:27] <mneptok> except when i talk about hurting people.
[02:28] <mneptok> and ponies.
[02:28] <popey> oh ok then
[02:28] <popey> \o/ ponies
[02:28] <elkbuntu> uh oh
[02:28] <popey> sshhhh, don't tell sabdfl
[02:29] <popey> note we all start talking when apokryphos (the boss) leaves
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> s/boss/grump?
[02:30] <mneptok> you said rump in front of a girl!
[02:30] <mneptok> AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA.
[02:30] <mneptok> sorry.
[02:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> ......
[02:32] <Seveas> mneptok, DON'T HURT PONIES!
[02:32] <GazzaK> ponies, I want one
[02:33] <effie_jayx> ponies?
[02:33] <GazzaK> well one would do
[02:34] <GazzaK> All I want is to make it into glue
[02:34] <GazzaK> ahha, that rhymes
[02:39] <mneptok> o/~ all i wanna do is make some glue. i'll find a pony, grind up his little hooves. o/~ (sorry Sheryl Crow)
[02:39] <popey> nice
[02:42] <mneptok> you kids and yer Unicode
[02:43] <popey> \o/ utf-8
[02:43] <popey>
[02:43] <popey> lovely
[02:49] <Seveas>
[02:49] <Seveas> hah
[03:23] <tespppp> how to listup all files in a directory?
[03:24] <popey> ls
[03:32] <PriceChild> Whoa its a LjL! :)
[03:33] <LjL> you think? hmm well yeah, you're probably right. though it might just that his computer managed to kill him and took over his irc personality. but of course, not.
[03:35] <Seveas> it looks like an ljl
[03:35] <Seveas> it smells like an ljl
[03:35] <Seveas> it tastes like an ljl
[03:35] <Seveas> so it must be an ljl :)
[03:37] <GazzaK> tastes like chicken
[03:38] <LjL> @lart 28 Seves and GazzaK
[03:38] <LjL> so, did i miss anything funny?
[03:38] <GazzaK> yes
[03:38] <GazzaK> just before you joined
[03:42] <PriceChild> hehe
[03:43] <PriceChild> LjL, There's now an ubot3
[03:43] <LjL> yup i know, i dialled in once or twice
[03:44] <GazzaK> I stalked PriceChild - thats interesting
[03:44] <PriceChild> yeah but that's not new
[03:48] <effie_jayx> LjL,  i'm so telling Hobbsee you took his stick...
[03:48] <effie_jayx> :D
[03:48] <Seveas> his?
[03:48] <LjL> its
[03:49] <Seveas> let's hope hobbsee doesn't read that....
[03:49] <effie_jayx> Seveas, :S
[03:49] <effie_jayx> I will get DOOM :O
[03:50] <effie_jayx> Seveas,  mean you... :(
[03:50] <Seveas> I'm not mean
[03:51] <Seveas> just realistic
[03:51] <effie_jayx> well actually yesterday i got booted from this channel... and Hobbsee stated that it was some malfuction with the stick
[03:51] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, hobbsee is a cool geeky aussie chica like me
[03:51] <Seveas> you're not cool
[03:51] <effie_jayx> so I went and filled a bug on Launchpad :D
[03:52] <elkbuntu> Seveas, did you read my article yet?
[03:52] <Seveas> no
[03:52] <Seveas> I'v been insanely ill
[03:52] <elkbuntu> :(
[03:52] <GazzaK> awww
[03:52] <effie_jayx> Seveas,  hope you feel better
[03:52] <Seveas> why do you think I missed the CC meeting?
[03:52] <elkbuntu> it's linked from my blog when you're well enough
[03:53] <Seveas> at 21:00 I simply collapsed
[03:53] <elkbuntu> Seveas, i figured for the same reason you missed the irc meeting
[03:53] <GazzaK> Seveas, collapsed???  seen a doctor?
[03:54] <Seveas> GazzaK, not litterally collapsed but just too ill to not go to bed and sleep
[03:54] <Seveas> and that doesn't happen too often
[03:54] <GazzaK> doesn't sound that good though, have you seen a doctor?
[03:55] <Seveas> neh
[03:55] <Seveas> half the country is ill
[03:55] <GazzaK> is it just the damn flu bug?
[03:55] <elkbuntu> it sounds like something a doctor would prescribe panadol for
[03:55] <elkbuntu> doctors here prescribe fricking paracetemol for every freaking thing
[03:55] <Seveas> just flu, and a flu variant that was not in the vaccin
[03:56] <Seveas> elkbuntu, you need a prescription for paracetamol?1
[03:56] <elkbuntu> Seveas, no
[03:56] <elkbuntu> Seveas, but they tell you to take it
[03:57] <elkbuntu> which is by definition prescribing
[03:57] <elkbuntu> prescribed texts for courses do not need a teacher to write out a prescription either ;)
[03:57] <GazzaK> my boyfriend has been off work for most of the week with this flu too, he was looking like death warmed up the other day, so if you have what he has had, I'd recommend bed
[03:59] <Seveas> I've been in bed for most of this week
[03:59] <GazzaK> alone?
[03:59] <Seveas> not all the time
[03:59] <Seveas> but when you're ill, sex is not too much on your mind
[04:00] <GazzaK> well there we go, bed rest :p
[04:00] <GazzaK> Tom was like a radiator the other night, totally burning up, I'm glad I did not get it from him
[04:01] <Seveas> you're lucky
[04:08] <GazzaK> yeah, I know that.  he is only just now looking more Tom like
[04:37] <GazzaK> nalioth, I wassn't having a dig
[04:40] <SportChick> Seveas: sorry - it was 3AM here..I was happily asleep
[04:40] <Seveas> sleep is for wussies
[04:41] <PriceChild> Seveas, Haven't you been in bed for a week? 8-)
[04:41] <Seveas> I was feeling pretty wuss :p
[04:41] <PriceChild> hehe :)
[04:41] <Myrtti> flu or noro virus?
[04:41] <Myrtti> a-virus and noro are going rampart here in Finland
[04:42] <Seveas> don't know what noro or a-virus are
[04:42] <Myrtti> one of the most famous Finnish singer died due to complications of noro virus last month
[04:42] <nalioth> Seveas: did you get your problem sorted from earlier?
[04:42] <Seveas> nalioth, yes
[04:42] <Myrtti> A-virus influenza, noro virus diarrhea
[04:42] <Seveas> Myrtti, barrel of fun...
[04:45] <SportChick> seveas: sleep may be for wussies, but that's a pretty good description of what I've been lately
[04:55] <Tm_T> Myrtti: Still trying to keep unarian people out from finnish pureland by scaring them?
[04:55] <Tm_T> -spellerrors
[04:56] <Myrtti> by what I've heard I guess these viruses move quite fast around the globe
[04:56] <Myrtti> Isn't there one flight from 'dam to Helsinki every day?
[04:56] <Myrtti> could be more
[04:57] <Myrtti> so the connection between Seveas' flu and mine isn't that far fetched
[05:00] <Myrtti> hm, a thought of woolly mittens with ubuntu logos on them...
[05:01] <Myrtti> hm, nevermind :-P
[05:19] <ikonia_> please please please please please - can we have an #ubuntu-nonefaq channel where you can ask a question thats not related to nvidia/ati/beryl/wifi without 400 "nvidia" messages coming on and bouncing your message of screen
[05:20] <popey> ikonia_: you could always ask your question using the support ticket system http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[05:20] <popey> or using the ubuntuusers mailing list at http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[05:20] <ikonia_> not really real time conversation is it though
[05:21] <popey> does it need to be?
[05:21] <popey> you open a support ticket and we will see how quick I can answer it okay?
[05:21] <ikonia_> well thats the point of IRC to have a disscussion about configuration/ideas etc etc
[05:21] <popey> its one way of getting support, yes, not the only way
[05:22] <ikonia_> popey not so much a time to answer - more a case of discuss an issue and get opinions etc
[05:22] <popey> you think you wont get any using a support ticket?
[05:22] <popey> or mailing list?
[05:22] <ikonia_> popey I have no problem logging bugs/assistance - I was just looking for discussion about the issue and opinons and options
[05:22] <ikonia_> popey as I said, not real time
[05:23] <popey> well, just suggesting alternative options to help you solve your problem
[05:23] <ikonia_> popey not at all, I appricaite that. I personalyl won't sign up to the mail lists as its alaways been border line on spam, I have no problems with launchpad though
[05:23] <ikonia_> I just fancied discussing an issue, getting opinions etc etc
[05:23] <ikonia_> irc is a nice way to discuss
[05:24] <popey> border line spam?!
[05:24] <popey> what are you talking about?
[05:24] <popey> I note you are in the UK
[05:24] <popey> feel free to join #ubuntu-uk
[05:24] <ikonia_> popey a lot of posts go through them and a lot are "I can't get my nvidia card working" etc etc. Although when you do find a good thread, it is good
[05:24] <popey> the UK loco team are good at chatting
[05:24] <ikonia_> popey yeah, I visit ubuntu-uk
[05:24] <popey> ask your question there?
[05:25] <ikonia_> I can do, but again there is just a lot of "how can i get wifi working" totally not as much as the main channel which is good. Its probably the best option
[05:25] <ikonia_> just thought it maybe nice to have #ubuntu-level2 or something
[05:25] <ikonia_> only an idea
[05:25] <ikonia_> ill thought through on my part
[05:25] <popey> er
[05:25] <popey> there is very little " how can i get wifi working" in #ubuntu-uk
[05:25] <popey> very very little
[05:25] <popey> we mostly chat
[05:26] <popey> shoot the breeze
[05:26] <ikonia_> really, we must have crossed times. I'll give it another go. I normally visit a few nights a week
[05:26] <mneptok> ikonia_: seeing your complaint, i have some quesitons, too.
[05:26] <ikonia_> mneptok it wasn't a complaint
[05:26] <ikonia_> mneptok not at all
[05:26] <ikonia_> please don't take it as a complaint
[05:26] <ikonia_> I was just thinking out loud
[05:26] <mneptok> like ... can i run Compiz on an nVidia GeForce5200?
[05:27] <ikonia_> mneptok if only I had a gun.....
[05:27] <mneptok> will you install Beryl for me?
[05:27] <ikonia_> mneptok are you going to go through the whole lot ?
[05:27] <mneptok> PLEASE HELP ME INSTALL IT
[05:27] <ikonia_> ha ha ha ha
[05:27] <ikonia_> are you reading my conversations logs
[05:27] <mneptok> down, not across.
[05:28] <mneptok> it's Big Blue Room time for you.
[05:28] <ikonia_> big blue room ?
[05:28] <mneptok> for me, as well.
[05:28] <ikonia_> that went over my head
[05:28] <mneptok> that place out the window.
[05:28] <ikonia_> ahhhh
[05:28] <ikonia_> the real world
[05:29] <mneptok> the idiots are somewhat attenuated
[05:29] <mneptok> let's do *somewhat*
[05:29] <mneptok> yes, with emphasis
[05:29] <ikonia_> nah, ignore my ramblings, I was just getting bored of !nvidia !ati !ndiswrapper !beryl , when I wanted to discuss an unusual (to me) issue with the apache build on ubuntu
[05:30] <ikonia_> I'll hit ubuntu-uk see whats going on
[05:30] <mneptok> is it broke?
[05:30] <mneptok> *spit*
[05:31] <ikonia_> no no, not broke, just a configuration issue which is partly down to me and partly down to how ubuntu lays out its modular apache config
[05:31] <mneptok> if you have better ideas, you want to learn about writing specs
[05:31] <ikonia_> mneptok not all, I qutie like the more modular approach, its a bit unusual for me, but I think its a good change
[05:31] <mneptok> #ubuntu-motu would be helpful. many have written specs.
[05:32] <ikonia_> time will tell if it has longevity for me
[05:32] <mneptok> a lot of this is apache 1.3 vs 2.0 for you, prolly.
[05:32] <ikonia_> mneptok nah, I dropped apache 1 ages ago, I run a mix of apache 2 and 2.2 - but ubuntu really takes the modular aproach to the N'th level
[05:33] <Ubugtu> Apache bug 2 in Layout "Just testing the Boogzeela setup for log4j" [Normal,Closed: fixed]  http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2
[05:33] <ikonia_> more than any other distro
[05:33] <ikonia_> as I said I think its potentially a good thing
[05:33] <ikonia_> actualyl strike that I don't mean to chat in here sorry
[05:33] <mneptok> apache 1
[05:34] <mneptok> *clink*
[05:34] <mneptok> apache 1362
[05:34] <Ubugtu> Apache bug 1362 in Core tasks "class initialisation for task java is not well done" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]  http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1362
[05:34] <mneptok> thanks for joining us, pythonpile
[08:52] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, jussi01 said: !hi is Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! How can we help you?
[08:53] <AndrewB> ubotu: so?
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about so? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <apokryphos> AndrewB: ?
[08:57] <AndrewB> Nothing I am going insane.
[08:59] <AndrewB> Just spent 30 pound more on flights than I needed to.
[08:59] <apokryphos> AndrewB: I think you're looking for #ubuntu-offtopic -- that channel is for general chat :)
[09:00] <AndrewB> heh..
[11:10] <cables> Seveas, sorry about the !ops thing. There were several trolls in there, and no one was doing anything about it.


 EriC^^ - i'm fine, thanks, how about you?
[06:28] <lordievader> Doing good here.
[06:31] <EriC^^> great thanks ducasse
[06:33] <ducasse> national day here today, lots of stuff happening everywhere
[06:41] <lordievader> Nice stuff, or 'too many people, not nice' stuff?
[06:45] <ducasse> for me, the latter. there will be crowds *everywhere*, and i don't do crowds.
[06:46] <ducasse> so staying at home and preparing for family to come for barbecue :)
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse jink
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: the meat is marinating already?
[06:52] <lordievader> ducasse: Crowds are the worst.
[06:54] <ducasse> morning lotuspsychje - all well today? haven't really started on the meat yet :)
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> yeah fine here ducasse :p
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> !info zzuf xenial
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> !info zzuf precise
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> !info zzuf bionic
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> weird
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys workday ;)
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:06] <JimBuntu> Hello there BluesKaj
[12:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning JimBuntu, how's things this fine morn?
[12:11] <JimBuntu> Good and looking up so far. It's a crisp/chilly morning with blue skies. I'll take it! How are you?
[12:12] <lordievader> 👋
[12:18] <BluesKaj> JimBuntu, the weather's the same here and I'm doing ok so far...lotsof stuuf to do today. My 2 daughters are driving up from Montreal today so i have to finish cleaning this place :-)
[12:18] <JimBuntu> Awesome for you though!
[12:19] <BluesKaj> yeah, absolutely
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hey lordievader, how's things?
[12:19] <lordievader> Doing good here 😁
[12:20] <lordievader> Good luck with cleaning 😉
[12:21] <BluesKaj> hehe, yeah , had a good stsrt yesterday so it shouldn't be too difficult to finish up
[12:22] <pauljw> hey BluesKaj, everyone. :)
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hi pauljw :-)
[12:23] <lordievader> 👋
[12:24] <BluesKaj> lordievader, that emoji is showing up here as a vertical rectangle
[12:24] <pauljw> looks a hello kitty here...
[12:24] <pauljw> looks like
[12:25] <lordievader> Hmm, it is a waving hand emoji. Either your client doesn't use/support utf-8 or your fon't is missing this specific emoji.
[12:25] <BluesKaj> the first 2 you posted worked ok
[12:25] <lordievader> https://emojipedia.org/waving-hand-sign/
[12:25] <pauljw> ah yeah, now i see the hand...
[12:26] <pauljw> i'm so used to emoji's being face oriented that i wasn't looking for something else. :)
[12:27] <BluesKaj> font I use is Dejavu Sans
[12:30] <BluesKaj> of course I'm also testing 18.10 Cosmic dev OS so who what can happen
[12:30] <BluesKaj> who knows
[12:31] <BluesKaj> running well so far , but there haven't been many upgrades or new installs since it's early days
[12:32] <daftykins> lordievader: i saw it
[12:33] <daftykins> yeah i would've thought at this point there's not even anything between 18.04 and 18.10? :)
[12:33] <BluesKaj> had about 50-60 upgrades so far
[12:35] <BluesKaj> no kernel upgrades or kde/plasma major version changes
[15:12] <tgm4883> leftyfb: yea dpkg-dev isn't needed for this
[15:12] <leftyfb> got all the files already?
[15:12] <tgm4883> dpkg-dev is for creating the repo. The repo is already created
[15:13] <tgm4883> whoever gave her the ISO created the repo
[15:13] <tgm4883> so I think we just need to find the right deb line to add to sources.list
[15:13] <tgm4883> That page that was linked to assume you're dumping a bunch of random debs in a directory and want to make a repo out of that
[15:14] <tgm4883> leftyfb: so I think what probably need to happen is to have a sources line something like
[15:15] <tgm4883> deb file:/usr/local/mydebs xenial-updates main restricted ...
[15:15] <leftyfb> deb file:///home/repository SuiteCodename main restricted universe multiverse
[15:15] <tgm4883> yea
[15:15] <leftyfb> deb file:///home/repository xenial-updates main restricted
[15:16] <leftyfb> deb file:///home/repository xenial-security main restricted
[15:16] <tgm4883> she's got updates and security, so two lines. Figuring out what parts she has now
[15:16] <leftyfb> I'd say the 2 lines I just posted
[15:17] <tgm4883> Probably. I'm doubtful she has universe and multiverse, but she might not have restricted either
[15:17] <leftyfb> the lines I posted last don't have universe and multiverse
[15:17] <daftykins> what's the deal with a custom repo?
[15:18] <tgm4883> I know. I'm just saying we need to figure out what she has first
[15:18] <tgm4883> daftykins: someone was given an ISO with a mirror of the repo to update an air-gapped server
[15:18] <tgm4883> a mirror or a semi mirror, unsure how complete it is
[15:19] <tgm4883> it's 45GB, so it's not a full mirror
[15:19] <daftykins> curious method
[15:21] <leftyfb> not a bad idea if it's done correct and with some instruction
[15:22] <tgm4883> leftyfb: main and multiverse
[15:22] <tgm4883> what a weird combo
[15:22] <leftyfb> yeah, interesting
[15:22] <tgm4883> oh and universe
[15:22] <leftyfb> and universe
[15:22] <tgm4883> that's not so crazy then
[15:22] <daftykins> by the sounds though, it would've been easier to ship an image of an installed OS to transfer over
[15:23] <daftykins> oh no i'm being an idiot, 'cause they wouldn't necessarily know what software they want to use
[17:10] <leftyfb> nacc: you know WSL has very little do with #windows right? It's based off the cloud image of ubuntu. The error they were having has to just do with a broken mysql installation. The "runlevel" error is a red herring
[17:14] <EriC^^> evening all
[17:47] <EriC^^> hey oerheks
[17:47] <oerheks> Hi EriC^^ \0/
[17:54] <nacc> leftyfb: dunno any of that, i know that WSL is not supported in #ubuntu.
[17:55] <leftyfb> nacc: I'd say with it's installation or kernel level stuff or maybe even advanced networking. But as far as a broken package system, it's just ubuntu. At that point it has nothing to do with Windows
[17:55] <leftyfb> nacc: sending someone to #windows because of a broken mysql installation in ubuntu is going to get them nowhere and very frustrated with ubuntu
[17:55] <leftyfb> not Windows
[17:56] <nacc> leftyfb: i have seen donofrio find enough weird shit that i disagree with you.
[17:57] <nacc> leftyfb: and choose to not disclose they are on wsl until an hour into debugging.
[17:57] <nacc> leftyfb: and you know what, i honestly don't care if they are frustrated with ubuntu. All I did was point them to the FAQ response for their specific usage.
[17:57] <oerheks> donofrio.. he is the only active user i know on WSL .. problems with installing a desktop and such
[17:57] <leftyfb> which tells them to ask for help in #windows
[17:57] <nacc> leftyfb: I believe I've seen you do the same with other users for other things. So let's just drop it
[17:58] <nacc> leftyfb: feel free to change the FAQ response, if you think it's wrong.
[17:58] <leftyfb> nacc: is that something I have the ability to do?
[17:58] <nacc> leftyfb: yes.
[17:59] <nacc> "!ubuwin is ..."
[17:59] <nacc> (without the quotes, of course)
[17:59] <oerheks> the !wsl factoid is correct, no?
[17:59] <nacc> leftyfb: the admins of the bot will have to approve it, but that's how the responses are defined and adjusted over time.
[17:59] <oerheks> !wsl
[18:00] <nacc> leftyfb is claiming that support for some parts of it should occur in #ubuntu, afaict.
[18:00] <nacc> might be true, but hasn't been our policy until now
[18:00] <leftyfb> I most certainly claim that. #windows has no business supporting an Ubuntu OS. Maybe the installation on their subsystem. Or if something is wrong at the kernel level. But userland, no way.
[18:01] <nacc> it's not an Ubuntu product, it's a Canonical prodcut
[18:01] <nacc> *product
[18:01] <nacc> also, I would think someone would pick "#ubuntu-on-windows" first, but that's just me
[18:01] <leftyfb> the running OS is just the cloud image. Same thing that gets installed on servers
[18:02] <nacc> except *how* it runs is nothing like Linux
[18:02] <nacc> so you can handwave all you need to, I will handwave back
[18:02] <leftyfb> there's 14 people in there. One is a chanserv, one is me, and one is the guy that was looking for help earlier. Not going to get much help there.
[18:03] <nacc> nope, that's the consequence of choosing to use the product, then
[18:03] <nacc> maybe don't use windows
[18:03] <nacc> just like any number of other products that have no support on IRC

[18:03] <oerheks> and 12.04 extended support
[18:04] <oerheks> oh i love the wave of 32 users in the future
[18:04] <leftyfb> In the case of today, the issue was with ubuntu as an OS and zero to do with windows or the WSL product.
[18:04] <oerheks> 32 bit *
[18:16] <oerheks> oh my ..
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> oO
[19:10] <kostkon> :/
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu & windows are such good friends :p
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> ive readed it on internet!
[20:22] <JimBuntu> it MUST be true!  Plus, it's IBM, a fair amount of Linux love from IBM in general.
[23:30]  * oerheks facepalms
[23:30] <oerheks> sorry nacc .. i explicitly asked him about other os that might controll ..
[23:30] <nacc> oerheks: that's what i thought too :/
[23:31] <oerheks> then we all still win, guessing was right
[23:54] <oerheks> !cookie | nacc
[23:55] <oerheks> !pizza EriC^^