[11:46] <cub> Anyone that have used recordmydesktop frequently?
[13:10] <zequence> cub: Don't think so. I haven't seen anyone discussing it on here. It happens users talk about it
[13:10] <zequence> might be people at #opensourcemusicians know something about it
[13:10] <zequence> cub: What are you finding problematic with it, btw?
[13:11] <zequence> cub: I'm a musician/composer by education, but right now studying to become a network technician - so currently a student, to answer your question from before
[13:11] <zequence> cub: How about yourself?
[13:24] <cub> I've had some trouble with recordmydesktop where it drops parts of the picture and so on, I then read some confusing stuff about how you shouldn't move windows while recording
[13:24] <cub> and I just wondered if someone had used it before and knew it that was the case. I have found several alternatives and will investigate them. Kdenlive seems to record directly so that would be perfect
[13:25] <cub> Myself I studied sound engineering in Haparanda, then worked some as audio tech before starting in different IT jobs
[13:31] <cub> then moved over from server tech to project management, from there to service management where I am today
[13:32] <cub> I should be doing music and videos on my spare time, but it's hard to find that spare time. :D
[13:33] <zequence> it can be, yes
[13:34] <cub> I've always played around with linux installations, then I settled down with Ubuntu and later Ubuntu Studio when I discovered it
[13:36] <zequence> My first try using Linux was with Red Hat around 2002 or something. But, didn't start really using Linux until around 2008
[13:36] <cub> I used to run a small web design one-man-firm and might start it up again on the side. Also hoping to learn how to code, starting out with Python
[13:36] <zequence> good old python
[13:36] <zequence> cub: But, you don't do a lot of php?
[13:37] <cub> I went to linux in 2004 to deal with some online gaming issues..I had to get away from Counter Strike and hence, no windows allowed.
[13:37] <zequence> hehe
[13:37] <cub> I have done some php, but only to fix certain things I wanted to change in wordpress or phpbb sites
[13:37] <cub> never sat down to properly learn php
[13:37] <zequence> how about other languages?
[13:38] <cub> 10 print "Jimmy", 20 goto 10
[13:38] <cub> I never had the patience to learn any language expect BASIC in the 80s
[13:38] <zequence> I'm self taught in a bunch of languages, but have only used python for anything real so far
[13:38] <zequence> I do a bit of python/GTK
[13:38] <cub> aha
[13:39] <zequence> I know enough about programming languages that I could do C, or C++ too
[13:39] <cub> a friend working at youtube recommended python to start out with to me
[13:40] <zequence> I think any language will do, if you just find a use for it
[13:40] <zequence> what really teaches you is just doing it
[13:40] <zequence> I learnt a lot by doing a lot of pure data
[13:40] <zequence> it's not like a written language, but you learn how to thing in terms of programming
[13:40] <cub> yes, I have some ideas of apps I want to build but have no clue on how to do it.
[13:41] <zequence> start out with something that is similar, and start changing it
[13:42] <cub> exactly
[13:42] <zequence> well, if it's not too advanced
[13:42] <cub> I would like to port Freemind to python
[13:42] <cub> and then make an offline Kanban tool
[13:42] <cub> buuut that's for later.
[13:42] <cub> so, why ubuntu studio? I think I saw somewhere that your main pc was running something else?
[13:43] <zequence> I use Debian as my main OS
[13:43] <zequence> I'm recently also a member of the Debian Multimedia Team, who packages just about everything we use in UBuntu Studio
[13:44] <zequence> Ubuntu Studio is probably the most widely used, multimedia based OS. It's the perfect first OS for someone wanting to use Linux for multimedia content creation
[13:45] <zequence> It's also a great place from where to have influence on the Linux multimedia community, or perhaps mostly, the Linux audio community
[13:45] <cub> Do you have any statistics on how many users or downloads there are?
[13:45] <zequence> I don't
[13:46] <zequence> Been meaning to get some data from Ubuntu people
[13:46] <zequence> on how much people download our ISOs
[13:46] <zequence> we're definatly the least used among the other established flavors
[13:46] <zequence> definitely*
[13:46] <cub> It's hard though. Myself have downloaded several ISOs many times and then one might do one download and several installations
[13:47] <zequence> the other Ubuntu flavors, that is
[13:47] <zequence> you can compare our downloads with other flavors though
[13:48] <zequence> There is some people wanting to put together something similar to Ubuntu Studio meta packages in Debian now
[13:48] <zequence> But, apart from that, what's great about Ubuntu Studio is that it's focused
[13:48] <zequence> like a product
[13:49] <zequence> Debian is more of a library of applications
[13:49] <cub> I think KXStudio is moving over to Debian as well
[13:49] <zequence> falkx has been talking about it
[13:49] <zequence> mostly because of recent animosity against Canonical
[13:49] <cub> yup
[13:50] <zequence> but, that IMO is not something that has any effect on how KXstudio is distributed
[13:50] <cub> Who do you mena?
[13:50] <cub> mean
[13:51] <zequence> I mean, what Canonical does has no effect on KXStudio
[13:51] <cub> ah
[13:52] <zequence> as long as we, the community have the freedom to do our work, the Ubuntu flavor, which is of course designed by Canonical, can be regarded just like any flavor
[13:52] <zequence> KXStudio is not a big community project. It's mostly falktx, and he
[13:52] <zequence> he's never been interested in making changed in Ubuntu repos
[13:52] <zequence> or Debian repos
[13:53] <cub> Yes, that's what kept me off using some other projects. There was only one guy doing everything
[13:53] <cub> so what happens when they don't have the time or doesn't feel like moving things forward anymore
[13:54] <zequence> There are some advantages to KXStudio, and one of them is the inclusion of applications with hazy licenses
[13:54] <zequence> something that doesn't happen easily on Ubuntu
[13:54] <zequence> or Debian
[13:55] <zequence> that would be a certain amount of packages, that one person could just maintain on a PPA
[13:55] <zequence> then there's updates to older releases
[13:55] <zequence> finally, there are cases where KXStudio applications are rebuilt to overcome some problem, a bug.
[13:56] <zequence> packaging bugs are not reported upstream to Debian or Ubuntu
[13:56] <zequence> application bugs are of course reported to the application developer, and those fixes also end up in Debian and Ubuntu over time
[13:56] <cub> so they might not get fixed unless someone else reports it
[13:56] <zequence> just not in the flash of a moment
[13:57] <zequence> falktx is not concerned with co-operating with Debian and Ubuntud devs. Only application devs.
[13:57] <zequence> I'd like for fixes to end up in Debian, Ubuntu and all of their derivatives
[13:58] <zequence> I'd like for the user being able to do the same thing on any Debian derived distro without too much work, especially Debian
[13:58] <zequence> but, also Ubuntu, and therefore Ubuntu Studio
[13:59] <zequence> If we make Ubuntu Studio work really well for multimedia content creation, that will of course make people want to use it
[13:59] <zequence> But, why stop there?
[14:02] <cub> World domination?
[14:02] <zequence> lol
[14:02] <zequence> It makes sense to fix things upstream, so that you don't need to do it locally yourself
[14:03] <cub> yes, since it kind of depends on upstream anyway
[14:48] <DarkEra> good afternoon guys
[14:50] <zequence> DarkEra: hi
[14:50] <DarkEra> heya zequence :)
[14:51] <DarkEra> i love 13.04. It's a real pleasure to work with it. Having two track in the work at the moment
[14:51] <DarkEra> track/tracks
[14:56] <cub> Hiya
[14:56] <cub> DarkEra, audio recordings?
[14:57] <DarkEra> cub, hi
[14:57] <DarkEra> yes, audio recordings
[14:59] <cub> anything available online? I always enjoy checking out new stuff
[15:02] <DarkEra> cub, i have some older tracks online that i made years ago on a playstation one and 2, plus a rough demo track of the new one and a tomb raider theme i made on a mac. The second track i'm working on at the moment i keep a secret until it's finished
[15:03] <DarkEra> cub, here's a link to my blog: http://mathiusquest.blogspot.com
[15:04] <cub> cool
[15:04] <DarkEra> my other tracks can be found on soundcloud
[15:30] <NickG> soundcloud = awesome
[15:30] <NickG> whats your soundcloud url?
[15:33] <DarkEra> NickG, hold on :)
[15:34] <NickG> good stuff
[15:34] <DarkEra> https://soundcloud.com/mathius-quest
[15:35] <DarkEra> not everyone likes the music but hey, it's all a matter of taste
[15:35] <DarkEra> what i'm working on now will be more Enigmatic style
[15:36] <NickG> I work on hip hop music
[15:36] <DarkEra> cool :)
[15:36] <NickG> https://soundcloud.com/nick-germaine/sickness-feat-dien2live
[15:37] <NickG> one of my new ones.  A lot of people has a huge misconception about hip hop music.  A lot think it's all about guns, drugs and that kinda stuff.  I just use it as an art form to convey my thoughts
[15:37] <DarkEra> listening to it now
[15:37] <NickG> good stuff
[15:37] <NickG> that one was actually made in LMMS
[15:37] <NickG> and Ardour
[15:38] <DarkEra> wow, very cool! I like it
[15:38] <NickG> thank you
[15:43] <DarkEra> sorry for the delay, had a phonecall
[15:51] <DarkEra> NickG, following you and added a bookmark. Listening to the other tracks at the moment
[15:53] <zequence> Wish I could rap
[15:53] <zequence> my mouth is too slow
[15:53] <DarkEra> same here
[15:53] <zequence> Maybe slow doomy rap would work?
[15:53] <DarkEra> gotta say, he's got talent for sure
[15:54] <zequence> It sounds right
[15:54] <DarkEra> zequence, lol at slow doomy rap :D
[15:55] <zequence> Frankenstein rap
[15:55] <DarkEra> hahaha
[15:56] <zequence> NickG: Not bad at all. The voice is great, but maybe the music could be fattened up a bit?
[15:58] <zequence> I don't have much up, but this is something I did with puredata. the music is generated through pure data programming http://soundcloud.com/zequence/autopoiesis-0000001
[15:58] <zequence> I did post processing to the file, so not all done in programming, but you could do it all with the program too
[16:01] <DarkEra> cool stuff!
[16:03] <DarkEra> hmmm... looks like NickG is lost in a musical universe
[16:03] <DarkEra> i will be for sure tonight when i continue to work on my track
[16:26] <NickG> hah I am busy with school, we homeschool our children
[16:27] <NickG> I have them listening to classical music, one writing a book report and the other practicing writing.
[16:29] <zequence> NickG: Why do you homeschool them?
[16:29] <NickG> brb
[16:30] <zequence> Can't do that around here. We have laws that enforces kids to go to school
[16:31] <NickG> We have laws too.  But none specifically stating children to attend public school.
[16:33] <NickG> We homeschool a few reasons.  First, you are in complete control of what they learn.  Second, you are in complete control of how they learn.  By homeschooling, we are two teachers with two students, as opposed to 1 teacher with 30 students.  It provides more 1-on-1 time and individualized learning.  In public school, they teach something one way and if you don't get it, too bad.  We have the ability to teach in different ways
[16:33] <NickG> I was homeschooled as well.  I was allowed to choose what I learn, so I began HTML and CSS programming at 15.  I began making music at 14, and built my first computer at 14 as well.
[16:34] <zequence> I wouldn't say school was my major source of education on some fields
[16:34] <zequence> but, it's a lot more than just education
[16:34] <zequence> it has a social aspect as well
[16:35] <NickG> Yeah, but I still had my friends from before I was homeschooled, and there are other social events.
[16:35] <zequence> as long as the kids get what they need, I guess
[16:35] <NickG> A lot of people associate school with learning, and in turn associate the ending of high school with the ending of the need to learn.  And that's part of the problem with society.
[16:52] <NickG> I got the meta fields under each post changed darker as well.  I think it's too dark, but let me know what you think http://us.nickgermaine.ca
[17:10] <zequence> NickG: a bit too dark yes. I see you made the text in the front tabs larger. Looks ok. I'd still like the other text to be a little larger too
[17:13] <zequence> I also don't really like how the different header sizes are
[17:13] <zequence> h1, h2, h3, etc
[17:21] <zequence> NickG: The size on this page, directly under "Community" looks right to me
[17:21] <zequence> smaller sized are better suited for news articles, etc
[17:21] <zequence> well, not for our "news", but if you know what I mean
[17:21] <zequence> sizes*
[17:25] <DarkEra> heya madeinkobaia :)
[17:26] <DarkEra> how are you buddy?
[17:26] <madeinkobaia> Hey DarkEra ! I am great !
[17:26] <madeinkobaia> And you ?
[17:26] <DarkEra> good to 'hear'
[17:26] <DarkEra> i'm doing fine, thanks
[17:28] <madeinkobaia> Great, what's new ?
[17:33] <madeinkobaia> DarkEra : ^ ;)
[17:34] <DarkEra> madeinkobaia, working on another track in the nighttime. Daytime is for my family :)
[17:34] <madeinkobaia> Cool, thats a good planning.
[17:46] <NickG> I haven't played around with the header sizes, but I'll look at them and make appropriate changes.
[17:48] <NickG> Not sure if it might be a browser thing, I'm on Firefox, but the fonts on the community page look exactly like the font sizes for content everywhere else on the site.
[19:39] <cub> zequence, when you have used Virtualbox, have you set the guests to be a specific size?
[19:40] <cub> screen resolution wise I mean. I would like my vbox to be exactly 1280x720, but it disagrees with me