[01:18] <darkxst> jbicha, gnome-terminal update never made it into saucy?
[01:40] <jbicha> darkxst: nope, bug 1132700 is still unfixed
[01:42] <jbicha> yeah, it's disappointing that terminal, webkit, and control-center weren't updated to 3.8, Canonical's desktop team had too many other priorities this cycle
[01:42] <jbicha> dobey's thinking that the webkit bug is an upstream regression
[01:42] <darkxst> yeh he told me that too
[01:43] <darkxst> btw its still broken in 2.1.90
[01:43] <darkxst> even though there was one promising change in the NEWS file
[01:44] <darkxst> "Fix rendering of WebKitWebView child widgets with recent GTK+."
[01:44] <darkxst> Could well be related/similar, but I can't find the commit for that ;(
[01:45] <jbicha> svn :(
[01:46] <jbicha> or maybe it's not, but trac isn't as fun to navigate
[01:48] <jbicha> I appreciate the stability of waiting until things are bug-free to upload to Ubuntu
[01:48] <jbicha> ...but on the other hand some things take forever to be fixed if we wait
[02:05] <darkxst> I guess it is this, http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/150763
[02:09] <darkxst> its more that on one seems to care about the bugs until its in the archive ;(
[02:09] <jbicha> well that refers to a gtk 3.8 commit: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?h=gtk-3-8&id=d22fd72
[02:10] <jbicha> I guess blogging would be a good way to attract attention to bugs that need help
[02:10] <jbicha> I almost blogged this cycle
[06:57] <darkxst> jbicha, it seems most people that read the blogs spend their time starting flamewars and trolling, rather than contributing!
[08:01] <jbicha> hopefully facebook is fixed with today's telepathy-gabble update
[08:03] <darkxst> ok cool
[08:06] <darkxst> jbicha, https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/ubuntu/saucy/gnome-shell/upstart_log/+merge/184939
[14:22] <Andy80> hi guys
[14:24] <Andy80> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 and I've added the Gnome3 PPA to my repos. I've installed Gnome 3 and I'm running it. Now.... I can't install ANY extensions. I've already verified all the things described here: https://extensions.gnome.org/about/ but it seems everything all right. I get the popup with Cancel/Install buttons, I click install and the popup closes and nothing happens. I also don't get any error in the .xsession-errors. Any idea?
[14:35] <FiremanEd> Andy80: Are the extensions showing in tweak tool>shell extensions?
[14:39] <Andy80> let me check...
[14:39] <Andy80> FiremanEd, I've the "Shell Extension" option in the tweak tool but I only see default extensions, not the one that I try to install
[14:42] <FiremanEd> Andy80: I'm running ubuntugnome 13.10 beta 1, and have noticed the same from the shell extensions web page.  Several attempts to install some extensions then fizzle.
[14:45] <Andy80> ufff :/
[14:46] <bjsnider> you're able to turn those extensions on and off?
[14:46] <bjsnider> the ones that show up in tweak?
[14:46] <Andy80> bjsnider, let me check...
[14:47] <Andy80> bjsnider, yes... just tried with Removable Drive Indicator
[14:47] <bjsnider> what browser did you use to install the one you're looking for?
[14:51] <Andy80> bjsnider, I've tried both with Chrome and Firefox
[14:51] <Andy80> and yes: Chrome has the extension plugin installed and enabled
[14:51] <Andy80> and Click to Play enabled
[14:52] <bjsnider> is the extension supposed to be compatible with gnome-shell 3.8?
[14:52] <Andy80> the extensions url is also whitelisted as usual
[14:52] <FiremanEd> Andy80: With a few extensions that were doing what you described, I went to their 'developer homepage' listed there and installed them manually, with some success
[14:52] <Andy80> I don't know, but the fact is that I can't install ANY extension at all
[14:52] <Andy80> I've tried many
[14:52] <bjsnider> and the only way you've tried is through the browser?
[14:53] <Andy80> bjsnider, yes... I'm trying to install this one https://github.com/brianrobles204/Music-Integration
[14:53] <Andy80> in particular
[14:53] <Andy80> but I can't find the package to install it manually
[14:54] <Andy80> let me try to compile it....
[14:54] <bjsnider> that won't work
[14:54] <bjsnider> it's too old
[14:54] <bjsnider> it was abandoned
[14:55] <bjsnider> i mean look for yourself: https://github.com/brianrobles204/Music-Integration/issues/27
[14:55] <Andy80> uhm... but a friend of mine, with my same version, just installed it and it works for him
[14:55] <bjsnider> the api is broken in between minor revisions, and the extension has to be updated to reflect that, so the developer should not have written that it's compatible with "3.2 and above"
[14:57] <bjsnider> "up to 3.2" is correct
[15:02] <Andy80> ah ok... infact it doesn't compile either....
[15:02] <Andy80> that's a shame... I just migrated from Unity and it would have been nice to have a Sound Menu like Unity one
[15:03] <bjsnider> so you're saying when you try to install an extension from the site, it just disappears without offering a reason for the failure?
[15:07] <Andy80> exactly
[15:07] <Andy80> same with Weather one for example
[15:07] <Andy80> let me try again just to be sure...
[15:07] <FiremanEd> Andy80: gnome 3.6 or 3.8
[15:08] <Andy80> I confirm.... Gnome 3.8
[15:08] <bjsnider> the latest neroth extension for weather based on gweather works
[15:08] <bjsnider> code is only a few weeks old
[15:08] <FiremanEd> ok. The weather ext. I did manually and then it worked
[15:09] <bjsnider> you have to install the typelib gweather package
[15:12] <u-k-i-t> The weather extension if system installed on 13.10 does work but it drops and changes weather location a alot. Maybe young code, but looks promising if it can be made stable for chosen location/weather sources.
[15:12] <bjsnider> works perfectly here
[15:12] <bjsnider> on raring
[15:13] <u-k-i-t> bjsnider: It changed me from chosen to Boston once. Dropped the location a couple of times and likes to offer then not offer a weather location at times. It's fun. :-) May look at it more at a later date.
[15:15] <FiremanEd> u-k-i-t: curious, using it on 13.10 as well, but not with your symptoms.
[15:16] <u-k-i-t> FiremanEd: May look at it sooner than later. I am UK so us and the weather never have a good relationship. :-)
[15:17] <FiremanEd> u-k-i-t: ahh!
[15:18] <bjsnider> yeah but if not for that strand of the gulf stream the uk would be a lot colder
[15:18] <Andy80> u-k-i-t, same here :D
[15:18] <u-k-i-t> bjsnider: True enough.
[15:21] <u-k-i-t> Can anyone confirm this. bug 1223462.
[15:22] <u-k-i-t> Should also add '6' to that bug later.
[15:23] <Andy80> do you think the solution given here could work http://askubuntu.com/questions/142054/why-does-installing-gnome-shell-extensions-from-extensions-gnome-org-fail-silent ?
[15:24] <jbicha> u-k-i-t: try 0.0.14-1 from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-cantarell
[15:25] <bjsnider> Andy80, what's ls -l on .local/gnome-shell/extensions
[15:25] <u-k-i-t> jbicha: Currently running it.
[15:26] <Andy80> bjsnider, andrea@andrea-ThinkPad:~$ ls -l ~/.local/gnome-shell/extensions
[15:26] <Andy80> ls: cannot access /home/andrea/.local/gnome-shell/extensions: No such file or directory
[15:27] <jbicha> u-k-i-t: oh I see, could you report that at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=cantarell-fonts too then?
[15:27] <u-k-i-t> jbicha: Will do.
[15:28] <bjsnider> Andy80, .local/gnome-shell/share/extensions
[15:28] <bjsnider> no, .local/share/gnome-shell/extensions
[15:28] <Andy80> bjsnider, andrea@andrea-ThinkPad:~$ ls -l ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions
[15:28] <Andy80> total 0
[15:29] <Andy80> and it's normal... all the extensions installed are system wide installed because are the default one
[15:29] <bjsnider> ls -ld
[15:30] <bjsnider> it should be 755 and you own it
[15:32] <bjsnider> ok, jasper says the extensions site has a bug that prevents it from reporting errors at the moment. that's why you didn't see any info and it just died
[15:33] <FiremanEd> bjsnider:thanks.
[15:36] <Andy80> yeah it is:
[15:36] <Andy80> andrea@andrea-ThinkPad:~$ ls -ld ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions
[15:36] <Andy80> drwxrwxr-x 2 andrea andrea 4096 Sep 11 16:07 /home/andrea/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions
[15:36] <u-k-i-t> jbicha: Filed upstream and linked to each other.
[15:37] <jbicha> u-k-i-t: thanks!
[15:37] <bjsnider> 775, but anyway there's no issue creating anything under that
[15:40] <u-k-i-t> While I have you here. ;-) bug 1218351 Any opinions on it and how to address it locally or upstream?
[15:45] <jbicha> u-k-i-t: file that one to gnome too as Ubuntu GNOME just uses the default GNOME theme
[15:45] <u-k-i-t> jbicha: Will do.
[15:45] <Andy80> uff,,, I also receive double notifications when I get a message from Empathy... the first one is the nice GNOME one... thet pop up from the bottom, then I also get another one as dialog window. How can I avoid the second one?
[15:56] <u-k-i-t> Right. Now we just have the issue of not being able to boot any 13.10 iso images. But that's a kernel / main project problem.
[15:59] <qubit01> I love ubuntu-gnome, you guys rock
[16:13] <Andy80> it looks like that enabling the staging repository I'm able to install some extensions
[16:13] <Andy80> this one for exapmple https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/55/media-player-indicator/
[16:17] <Andy80> while the Weather one is still not working
[16:22] <FiremanEd> Andy80: Those two work for me in 13.10 but only have the 'gnome3 team' enabled.
[16:25] <Andy80> with a bit of efforts but it's getting better :)
[16:26] <FiremanEd> good deal
[16:26] <Andy80> I hope the version available with Saucy will be a bit more stable ;)
[16:27] <jbicha> Andy80: if you're using the gnome3 ppa, try sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extension-weather
[16:30] <Andy80> yes just got it... I was also missing another little lib. Up and running right now :)
[16:35] <Andy80> jbicha, this one works for you https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/150/message-notifier/ ?
[16:57] <u-k-i-t> lol. Some people who hang around the gnome bugzilla should really not think that the Linus Torvalds charm school way of talking to folks is the right way. :-D
[16:59] <Andy80> he's "just" a little emothive, but he's not a bad guy :D
[16:59] <Andy80> emotive
[17:01] <u-k-i-t> I know, but folks should not think that is always the way and try emulate. All good fun.
[17:03] <Andy80> yep... I agree that there could be people who try to emulate him
[17:03] <Andy80> got to go now, see you later and thanks for the help before!
[17:04] <u-k-i-t> Are there plans to use the next vUDS for ubuntu-gnome with a session or two as the next release will be the first ubuntu-gnome LTS?
[17:07] <jbicha> we don't have enough developers to support an LTS
[17:08] <u-k-i-t> That is a shame. Are there any group plans for recruitment of volunteers etc. and build the structure required?
[17:09] <jbicha> we need people to package sru's and test them
[17:10] <jbicha> for instance, this update needs to be verified: bug 1064584
[17:12] <u-k-i-t> Could SRU requests go to the mailing list so more can see and maybe get involved?
[17:15] <jbicha> sure, someone could do that
[17:15] <jbicha> honestly though, I think we're pretty set about UG 14.04 not being an LTS
[17:16] <jbicha> that doesn't stop any one from releasing bugfix updates for 14.04 as long as the regular Ubuntu is supported
[17:16] <u-k-i-t> True enough.
[17:16] <jbicha> we just don't have the resources to be making a 5-year promise or even a 3-year promise
[17:17] <u-k-i-t> Hopefully that changes as popularity grows.
[17:17] <jbicha> except that the GNOME project generally isn't interested in supporting any thing except for the most recent stable gnome series
[17:19] <u-k-i-t> Yes, that is an issue. For widespread adoption that should change. Maybe ubuntu gnome could link with Red Hat / Fedora / CentOS in some way as they have a stronger gnome support network. Just a thought.
[17:20] <jbicha> it sounds like RHEL7 will be using GNOME 3.8; do you think we should stick with 3.8 next cycle too?
[17:21] <u-k-i-t> Would have to give that some consideration. Many would like to jump to latest and some may like the stability. That is a discussion for another day on the mailing list.
[17:23] <u-k-i-t> Time to go and hunt some food. Bye all.
[18:29] <theenduser> o/
[18:30] <theenduser> So I usually disable GS animations but afer the last updates the settings won't stick. After log-out and -in they're back. Any thoughts?
[18:30] <theenduser> The extension doesn't install either BTW..
[18:31] <theenduser> this is saucy
[19:14] <stijn_> not sure if anyone replied to theenduser's question? sorry I logged out
[21:01] <okinMokin> hi. whatever I put under  settings->keyboard->system->'show the activities overview' the windows key (or super_L) is never deactivated. how can I achieve this?
[21:25] <okinMokin> that is gnome-shell <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:56] <bjsnider> that's not the latest
[22:01] <okinMokin> @bjsnider: talking to me? well, it's ubuntu 13.04 standard. you suggesting that it's kind of a bug?
[22:01] <meetingology> okinMokin: Error: "bjsnider:" is not a valid command.
[22:01] <okinMokin> bjsnider: talking to me? well, it's ubuntu 13.04 standard. you suggesting that it's kind of a bug?
[22:07] <darkxst> okinMokin, the <super> key is hardcoded I believe
[22:07] <okinMokin> darkxst: wow, that sucks
[22:08] <darkxst> okinMokin, obviously you can change/set <super>+key shortcuts, but just not <super> by itself
[22:09] <darkxst> if you wanted to do that, you probably need to use xmodmap or similar
[22:10] <okinMokin> yeah, i found that out as well. but that is exactly what is bugging me: whenever i accidently press super the whole 3d-graphic eye candy gets going
[22:19] <bjsnider> okinMokin, do you accidentally press it a lot?
[22:20] <okinMokin> bjsnider: too much to ignore it
[22:20] <okinMokin> and sometimes (i think especially the first time after booting) it takes a looong time during which the system is irresponsive
[22:28] <bjsnider> takes a long time to get to overview?
[22:30] <okinMokin> well yeah, it can be a couple of seconds (maybe even ten). maybe it's a different reason, though.
[22:31] <darkxst> okinMokin, the first time you press it, it has to build a lot of caches
[22:31] <okinMokin> i understand that
[22:31] <okinMokin> but even later on. you type something, press it without wanting and keep typing in that field up there in the overview. pretty annoyinh
[22:40] <bjsnider> i dunno, first time i press it, it jumps up fast, but i have a fast system
[22:43] <okinMokin> bjsnider: to be honest, so do i, but i do have other issues with my graphics driver too (i'm on a shiny macbookproretina).
[22:43] <darkxst> bjsnider, it has been improved somewhat since 3.6
[22:44] <coolspot> hi


[03:15] <nerdkid> hello, is there a way to make hexchat dark mode?
[09:56] <alex__> save nuovo utente di xubuntu
[11:37] <xubuntu71i> hi you all
[11:47] <Exterminador> hi guys. so, I have my laptop connected via Ethernet and I'd like to use it as a hotstop for other devices (router is in another room) to 'extend' the WiFi round. how can I do it? running Xubuntu 20.04
[12:58] <tomreyn> Exterminador: are you saying you want to set up an access point on your laptop with the same SSID as your other access point, and enable seemless device handover across those those wireless LANs? i would not know how to set this up, or whether that's actually possible.
[12:58] <tomreyn> if you just want to setup a separate wireless access point on your laptop, that should work, though, if the device can work in this mode.
[12:59] <Exterminador> and how can I check if it has AP support? since I have the laptop wired, the wifi card/adaptor is free
[13:01] <tomreyn> you can just try to set it up https://ubunlog.com/en/como-crear-un-punto-de-acceso-wifi-en-ubuntu-18-04-lts/
[13:01] <tomreyn> or run "iw list" in a terminal to see the "supported interface modes"
[13:02] <tomreyn> "AP" is the mode you'd need
[13:03] <tomreyn> "mesh point" would be needed for the first scenario (same SSID, automatic AP handover)
[13:05] <tomreyn> here's anothger way to set it up: https://mitrahosting.id/how-to-create-a-wireless-hotspot-access-point-on-ubuntu-21-04-hirsute-hippo/
[13:05] <tomreyn> (the normal access point, without mesh / handover)
[13:07] <tomreyn> and here's a video, explaining that, too. it's old, but the process is unchanged: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwDGw_fAGb0
[13:37] <Exterminador> seems I only have "Managed" and no AP/wrv
[14:01] <tomreyn> Exterminador: "managed" is the "normal" one, where you connect to an existing AP.
[14:02] <tomreyn> if the other modes aren't listed by 'iw', it means the driver / device firmware / hardware is not capable of it
[14:02] <tomreyn> that's often the case with badly supported, especially usb connected, wireless chipsets.
[14:12] <Exterminador> there are no other modes. being a laptop with 10y has its cons
[20:34] <dreamon> hello. I have a very issued touchpad of thinkpad laptop. I have to start → sleep 10; synclient RightButtonAreaLeft=0; synclient RightButtonAreaTop=0; synclient RTCornerButton=0;synclient ClickFinger2=0; xinput set-prop 'TPPS/2 Elan TrackPoint' "libinput Scroll Method Enabled" 0 0 0;synclient RBCornerButton=0;xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" "Synaptics Finger" 10 15 100 ;xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
[20:34] <dreamon> " "Synaptics Coasting Speed" 2 200; xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" "Synaptics Noise Cancellation" 5 5
[20:35] <dreamon> to fix it manually. how can I do it on boot? I tried to add in start menau .. but no luck I had to do it in Terminal
[21:42] <gnrp> what is the issue?
[21:42] <gnrp> how did you add it in the start menu?
[21:44] <dreamon> gnrp, all settings - autostart - added "on login" command -> sleep 10; synclient RightButtonAreaLeft=0; synclient RightButtonAreaTop=0; synclient RTCornerButton=0;synclient ClickFinger2=0; xinput set-prop 'TPPS/2 Elan TrackPoint' "libinput Scroll Method Enabled" 0 0 0;synclient RBCornerButton=0;xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" "Synaptics Finger" 10 15 100 ;xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" "Synaptics Coasting
[21:44] <dreamon> Speed" 2 200; xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" "Synaptics Noise Cancellation" 5 5
[21:45] <dreamon> issue was touchpad very hard to handle. with these commands it works. but still have some strange behaviors.. after reboot, all is gone.
[21:46] <dreamon> so tried to add it autostart, but no luck
[21:52] <gnrp> dreamon: Have you tried putting everything into a shell script that you would execute?
[21:52] <gnrp> also, can you run this as a user or does it need root?
[21:53] <dreamon> not till now.
[21:55] <dreamon> will give it a try.
[22:06] <dreamon> gnrp, dont know why, but this works! Thank you
[22:09] <gnrp> dreamon: You put it in a separate shell script?
[22:09] <dreamon> gnrp, yes, now autostart works by starting this script
[22:17] <gnrp> ok, good^^


[04:37] <voltagex> Hi, is it possible to boot ubuntu-22.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso (or 23.10) in text mode under qemu over serial? It seems like grub won't output to anything other than a vga device
[07:15] <cpaelzer> voltagex: hi, let me start with a disiclaimer :-) ISOs are usually for real devices which tend to have some sort of output :-)
[07:15] <cpaelzer> voltagex: On VMs the better way usually is using images https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ - and they do not even present grub options, they just boot
[07:15] <cpaelzer> voltagex: And there are many things like lxd with --vm or uvtool or multipass which will do that for you even more comfortable
[07:16] <cpaelzer> voltagex: But it is soon christmas, ignore the better way - boot an ISO without GFX ...
[07:16] <cpaelzer> voltagex: essentially you need to tell qemu to map the gfx elsewhere, there are two common ways
[07:16] <cpaelzer> voltagex: you can ask it to use libncurses for a text rendering right where you start it via -display curses
[07:17] <cpaelzer> voltagex: or you can ask it to just do not use any GFX at all via -nographic
[07:20] <cpaelzer> voltagex: The grub you missed should then be seen right in the console you submit the command
[07:21] <cpaelzer> I haven't looked further if you'd also need to tell the kernel to not try initializing graphics ... as I said one would usually just use cloud-images in the same scenario
[07:32] <cpaelzer> Yep, I just checked for you quickly, to hold back the kernel as well you'd need to go into "edit" in the grub that you see and set gfxpayload=text as well as  nomodeset before the ---
[07:33] <cpaelzer> That gets me into the installer, but again why would you want one - use a cloud-image for this use case :-)


[00:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mariadb-connector-c [arm64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.0.3-1] (no packageset)
[00:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mariadb-connector-c [armhf] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.0.3-1] (no packageset)
[00:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openbox (trusty-proposed/universe) [3.5.2-6 => 3.5.2-6ubuntu0.1] (lubuntu)
[00:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openbox (xenial-proposed/universe) [3.6.1-1ubuntu2 => 3.6.1-1ubuntu2.1] (no packageset)
[02:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: simple-scan (artful-proposed/main) [3.26.1-0ubuntu1 => 3.26.3-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-desktop)
[08:15] <tjaalton> is it the WIP tests on !x86 that keep packages in bionic-proposed?
[08:17] <tjaalton> like nvidia-graphics-drivers-384 update, which is needed to unblock mesa
[08:27] <sil2100> Yeah, looks like non-x86 don't run right now
[08:27] <sil2100> I thought all archs were enabled just not through request.cgi
[08:54] <didrocks> sil2100: hey, small question, do you know where filesystem.manifest-remove is created for a given flavor? I look at both germinate and livecd-rootfs but only found the hardlink creation
[08:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (bionic-proposed/main) [2.02-2ubuntu3 => 2.02-2ubuntu4] (core)
[09:02] <didrocks> sil2100: ok, it's simply on ubuntu-cdimage :)
[09:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (bionic-proposed/main) [2.02-2ubuntu3 => 2.02-2ubuntu4] (core)
[09:20] <sil2100> didrocks: ;)
[09:21] <Laney> didrocks: ubiquity is the main place I know of
[09:21] <didrocks> Laney: ubiquity is using this list, correct, but it doesn't create it?
[09:22] <didrocks> Laney: it's downloaded in daily-live iso creation (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/artful/daily-live-20171001.log)
[09:22] <didrocks> and the list is here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/339343473/livecd.ubuntu.manifest-remove
[09:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [2.02-2ubuntu4]
[09:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [2.02-2ubuntu4]
[09:24] <Laney> didrocks: ah right, sorry, misunderstood what you wanted
[09:24] <Laney> live-build then
[09:27] <didrocks> Laney: excellent, what I needed, thanks! :)
[09:30] <sil2100> Oh, I thought you found it already
[09:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libjogl2-java (xenial-proposed/universe) [2.3.2+dfsg-4 => 2.3.2+dfsg-4ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
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[17:45] <tsimonq2> infinity: Any chance you're around?
[17:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fwupdate [arm64] (xenial-proposed) [0.5-2ubuntu7]
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[18:10] <infinity> tsimonq2: There's a chance.
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[18:19] <tsimonq2> infinity: How would you feel about RPi3 arm64 images being on official infra?l
[18:22] <infinity> tsimonq2: I'm not sure I have an emotional response to that.
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[19:03] <tsimonq2> infinity: :P
[19:04] <tsimonq2> infinity: I'm asking if you have any objections, really.
[19:06] <infinity> tsimonq2: Not terribly.  Do you mean a preinstalled-server image, like the armhf+raspi2 one, or an installer image?
[19:09] <tsimonq2> infinity: Likely a preinstalled one.
[19:09] <tsimonq2> infinity: The tooling exists, right?
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[19:11] <infinity> tsimonq2: So, duplicating the armhf+raspi2 bits from livecd-rootfs to generate arm64+raspi3 should get you most of the way there.
[19:12] <infinity> tsimonq2: Except I don't know what's required bootloader and firmware wise.
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[19:22] <tsimonq2> infinity: Right, I'm just looking for an ack to go through with it. Since unofficial images exist (and tooling) for 16.04, I'll likely work with flexiondotorg on that.
[20:41] <tsimonq2> infinity: One more thing; would it be out of the question to change an installer slideshow image that displays a website Lubuntu no longer has control of via an SRU?
[20:42] <tsimonq2> infinity: It would certainly be a special case I think, but with Xenial still having point releases to go, it would be helpful for marketing.
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[20:59] <infinity> tsimonq2: For xenial, entirely appropriate, sure.
[20:59] <infinity> tsimonq2: For other releases, not so much, since they won't have new ISOs.
[21:02] <tsimonq2> Ok
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[17:48] <Jameswings2k> Hi there, I have a weird one.  I'm running mythbuntu 14.04 I did an apt-get update to get the latest mythtv 0.29 and if I go to software manager it claims it is installed.  But in /usr/bin/ I still only have the old version and I can't seem to find the new one anywhere...


[00:02] <zyx386> how can i approve new member in our trnslation team?
[00:18] <Rinchen> zyx386, if it's a team, you can view them on "show all members" ...at the bottom
[00:18] <zyx386> Rinchen, https://translations.launchpad.net/wordpress/2.5/+pots/wordpress/ckb/+index
[00:18] <zyx386> who?
[00:19] <Rinchen> ah zyx386, that's automatically created when someone actually does a translation
[00:19] <zyx386> no
[00:20] <zyx386> the exestend member send me now email with screenshot he can't edit more
[00:21] <Rinchen> zyx386, oh.. I think I understand
[00:21] <Rinchen> zyx386, you're the only member of the translation group
[00:21] <Rinchen> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/+groups/wordpress-translators
[00:21] <zyx386> yes
[00:21] <Rinchen> so you want to create a translation team
[00:21] <zyx386> but how can i approve another?
[00:21] <Rinchen> and then we can edit the group to show the team instead of just you
[00:22] <zyx386> Rinchen, now can pprove or not, ? :)
[00:22] <Rinchen> zyx386, so you want to create a TEAM that does Kurdish translations and then add folks to it... and then have us change the group from YOU to the new TEAM
[00:23] <zyx386> how can i creat the team?
[00:23] <Rinchen> there seem to be a few already   https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/people/?name=kurdish&searchfor=teamsonly
[00:23] <Rinchen> you can create a new team by using the "register a team" link
[00:24] <Rinchen> (sorry I keep sending you EDGE links. If you delete "edge" your screen will look like the normal Launchpad system)
[00:24] <zyx386> we have team in ubuntu translation
[00:25] <Rinchen> if you want, you can use that too. It's up to you
[00:25] <zyx386> ok
[00:25] <zyx386> but my translation wordpress be removed?
[00:26] <zyx386> because we have team longe time her
[00:27] <zyx386> ckb
[00:27] <zyx386> Rinchen,
[00:27] <Rinchen> zyx386, no it shouldn't.  You should contact https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/~nbachiyski   who is the owner of the WP translation groups though
[00:27] <Rinchen> and get him to make the change for you.
[00:27] <Rinchen> I just realized that group was owned so I shouldn't do it for you.
[00:28] <zyx386> he never answer me
[00:28] <zyx386> i send him more than 5 emails
[00:28] <zyx386> he answer another people in wp-mailing list but dont me
[00:30] <Rinchen> if you create a kurdish team for you and your friends for WP, and then open a ticket (for tracking) at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad ... I can contact him for you to see if I have better luck.
[00:30] <Rinchen> he might not have understood what you wanted
[00:31] <Rinchen> just subscribe me to the question you create at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad  and I can help you that way
[00:31] <Rinchen> (I also have to leave for a meeting now too)
[00:31] <zyx386> rosetta?
[00:32] <zyx386> Rinchen, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/38412
[00:33] <Rinchen> pefect
[01:04] <zyx386> Rinchen, thanx
[01:09] <Ursinha> netsplit :)
[01:19] <zyx386> Rinchen, i create the group but how can now import our translation from wordpress her?
[01:29] <zyx386> jtv,
[01:34] <zyx386> Rinchen, are you her?
[01:38] <nedko> how long it takes to publish packages? i copied one to team ppa but it is still in pending state, publishing in my ppa was faster
[02:24] <Hobbsee> mpt: i'm doing what now?
[02:25] <Hobbsee> mpt: if it's on the build page, it's not ppa specific.
[03:58] <kgoetz> hi all. i'm getting an ssl error -Certificate verification error -  trying to dget a file. is this to be expected?
[03:59]  * kgoetz wonders if he should file a bug against dget for showing wgets error messages
[04:00]  * kgoetz files bug
[04:03] <shirish> hi all, can somebody help me to attach another package as well for a particular bug, I don't know how to do that
[04:03] <shirish> I am on the edge server but still can't figure out a way
[04:14] <kgoetz> here is the output i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/26361/ sorry about the delay, i was testing with curl backend as well.
[04:18] <LaserJock> kgoetz: do you have ca-certificates installed?
[04:20] <shirish> LaserJock: can u help me to attach another package for a particular bug, I don't know how to do that although I'm on the edge server
[04:20] <shirish> LaserJock: if that can't be done by users but only by developers (as in rights,permissions) then that's ok
[04:23] <RAOF> shirish: What do you actually want done there?
[04:24] <RAOF> That looks like a fairly simple "X crashed" bug.
[04:24] <shirish> RAOF: ah, thanx, thought so didn't know whether its an xorg-xserver bug or its an gnome-session
[04:25] <shirish> RAOF: my actual issue is if I want to file the bug citing two packages, as in this case gnome-session as well as xorg-xserver as well
[04:25] <shirish> RAOF: how do I do that? I don't see any easy way to do that
[04:25] <RAOF> Also affects
[04:26] <shirish> RAOF: also affects another project?
[04:26] <RAOF> shirish: Also affects distribution
[04:27] <RAOF> But that could be clearer.  Let's file a bug.
[04:28] <shirish> ROAF: right, for distribution has another meaning where it should be package
[04:28] <shirish> RAOF: should I file it against launchpad or something else?
[04:29] <kgoetz> LaserJock: unsure - let me check
[04:30] <RAOF> shirish: It's probably one of these: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bugs?field.searchtext=also+affects&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&fie ...
[04:30] <RAOF> ... ld.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[04:30] <RAOF> Eeep!  That url was somewhat longer than expected!
[04:31] <RAOF> shirish: http://tinyurl.com/5rasyr
[04:32] <shirish> RAOF: checking ;)
[04:32] <kgoetz> LaserJock: no i didnt. working now. thanks for that
[05:21] <kgoetz> anyone else having difficulty dgeting dsc+tar.gz from LP PPAs?
[06:38] <sm> evening all
[06:39]  * sm wonders how hard it would be to have darcs and others importable on launchpad
[06:46] <stub> I think that involves adding support to https://launchpad.net/launchpad-cscvs
[06:49] <sm> thanks
[07:42] <sm> so.. lp uses the standalone cscvs tool to import from cvs/svn, and not bzr's built-in foreign branch feature, is that right ?
[07:43] <mwhudson> that is correct
[07:43] <mwhudson> i'm not sure what you mean by " bzr's built-in foreign branch feature"
[07:44] <spiv> mwhudson: bzr-svn and similar.
[07:44] <mwhudson> spiv: that's hardly built in
[07:45] <mwhudson> sm: it's worth noting that launchpad's cvs imports have been running for longer than bzr has really existed :)
[07:45] <sm> I mean http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrForeignBranches .. I have the impression bzr can talk to cvs and svn natively these days
[07:45] <spiv> Well, the abstractions in the code to allow different formats of branch to be used more-or-less interchangeably are built-in.
[07:46] <mwhudson> spiv: fair enough
[07:46] <mwhudson> sm: we'll maybe use bzr-svn one day
[07:46] <spiv> But yes, the specific support for SVN needs a plugin.
[07:46] <sm> I see, thanks
[07:46] <mwhudson> sm: there's no foreign branch for cvs though, i think...
[07:46] <sm> true, they recommend using lp fot that
[07:46] <sm> for
[07:48] <sm> so the future-minded person that ends up adding darcs support should probably add it to vibrant bzr, not crufty cscvs
[07:48] <mwhudson> yes
[07:48] <mwhudson> we'll probably go on using cscvs for cvs, there's no other option really today
[07:49] <mwhudson> (all the other stuff requires access to ,v files i think)
[09:13] <jumpkick> Hi...   launchpad has been unable to import our SVN repo from sourceforge since June 24th...
[09:13] <jumpkick> is this a known issue?
[09:13] <mwhudson> jumpkick: branch url?
[09:14] <jumpkick> mwhudson: https://mixxx.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/mixxx/trunk
[09:14] <jumpkick> https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/mixxx/trunk for the launchpad page
[10:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[10:00] <Hobbsee> hey mpt!
[10:01] <huats> mrevell: hey
[10:02] <huats> mrevell: are you around ?
[10:02] <mrevell> hi huats, I sure am
[10:02] <huats> :)
[10:02] <huats> i was quite sure you were
[10:02] <huats> but you might be on a break :)
[10:02] <huats> how are you ?
[10:03] <huats> mrevell: sorry to bother again
[10:03] <huats> do you know who I have to ask, to know the status of the create of a mailing list for a team ?
[10:03] <mrevell> huats: No problem. I fine thanks. How are you and how can I help?
[10:03] <klette> gmb: Did you answer my mail yesterday? Our datacenter had "a small crash" and lost all emails from yesterday
[10:03] <mrevell> huats: that depends. Is it an Ubuntu mailing list or for something else?
[10:03] <huats> I am great too
[10:04] <gmb> klette: Oh, fun(!) No, I haven't responded to it yet. I'll be doing so today, though.
[10:04] <huats> thanks
[10:04] <huats> it is related to the reception team (for the mentoring of MOTU)
[10:04] <klette> gmb: ah, excellent :-)
[10:04] <klette> and yeah, really fun.. the joy of tech :-)
[10:05] <mrevell> huats: In that case, you should send a request to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and also speak to jcastro. Do you know him?
[10:05] <huats> sure
[10:05] <huats> i'll talk to jorge :)
[10:05] <huats> thanks mrevell
[10:06] <huats> I know we have asked for the creation for some time now...
[10:06] <huats> and we are waiting for it :)
[10:06] <huats> I'll look for him
[10:06] <mrevell> huats: No problem :) For the time being, Ubuntu mailing lists are handled separately from Launchpad, so we automatically reject Ubuntu-related mailing list requests made to Launchpad.
[10:06] <mrevell> So, Jorge is the best person to speak to.
[10:06] <huats> I will
[10:06] <huats> hey popey o/
[10:07] <popey> hello
[10:11] <nandersson> Hi, I would like to know if OpenSUSE Build Service would be of any use to Ubuntu, or if it's a competing platform with Launchpad.
[10:11] <nandersson> I'm curious as I write for Swedish tech-mag TechWorld Open Source
[10:12] <nandersson> I haven't yet found out in what they compete/complement each other
[10:37] <mrevell> hey beuno
[10:37] <nedko> how long it usually takes to review vcs-import branch?
[10:38] <beuno> mornin' mrevell
[10:39] <mrevell> nandersson: Hi
[10:40] <mrevell> nandersson: I think my colleague cprov would be a good person to speak to about that. Cprov, are you able to speak to nandersson about OpenSUSE's Build Service and Launchpad similarities/differences?
[10:44] <nandersson> mrevell, Hi, I would appreciate it :) To me, as an external part, it seems they kind of complement each other. BuildService will for example support an interface to communicate with version control systems, such as SVN/CVS - Would be nice if they supported Bazaar as well, as you're on your way to import 16 000 projects into your dev-repository :)
[10:47] <cprov> mrevell: sure
[10:48] <nandersson> cprov, Hi
[10:48] <cprov> nandersson: yes, fully integration with bzr is in our plans, it will wider than PPAs, though
[10:49] <cprov> nandersson: we will be able to assembly a source-package from a arbitrary branch.
[10:49] <nandersson> cprov, That sounds great, because it seems that Build Service could be used to create the distribution and Launchpad for all the development around it
[10:49] <cprov> nandersson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoMoreSourcePackages
[10:50] <nandersson> cprov, And that would be fully automized?
[10:50] <cprov> nandersson: as much as it can be.
[10:52] <nandersson> cprov, would you then use the OpenSUSE Build Service or would you host it yourself? As part of Launchpad?
[10:54] <Hobbsee> cprov: oh, were there any plans to finish the dget ppa stuff, btw?  i thought it got targetted for release ages ago
[10:54] <cprov> nandersson: we will be able to host everything related to this process -> branches (done) -> source-packages -> binary-packages -> archives
[10:54] <cprov> Hobbsee: but it wasn't :(
[10:54] <Hobbsee> ah
[10:54] <Hobbsee> any ETA?
[10:55] <nandersson> cprov, Do you use OpenSUSE Build Service as a foundation or are you developing your own Build Service?
[10:56] <cprov> Hobbsee: it's pretty hectic right now, so it's, at least, post-2.0 (august)
[10:57] <Hobbsee> ah well.  okay
[10:57] <cprov> nandersson: we do have our own build-service.
[10:57] <cprov> nandersson: it's just not integrated with our branch-hosting service.
[10:57] <cprov> yet
[10:57] <nandersson> cprov, aha, I get it :)
[10:59] <nandersson> cprov, Now I get the picture. Thanks a lot for your time - and keep up the good work. :)
[10:59] <cprov> nandersson: keep in touch, it will be done very soon.
[10:59] <nandersson> cprov, I'll do that - I keep a very close eye on the Ubuntu development. Ubuntu has a big userbase in Sweden
[11:02] <cprov> nandersson: great. Just a quick question, I understand VCS-integration is desirable, but how desperately you need it ?
[11:02] <cprov> nandersson: I mean, is it blocking you to start using PPA right now ?
[11:03] <cprov> nandersson: because some automation can be done in your side already (not ideal, but will do the work) using bzr-builddeb.
[11:04] <nandersson> cprov, I don't know as I'm not involved in OpenSUSE Build Service as a developer. I write for the swedish Tech-mag TechWorld Open Source
[11:04] <nandersson> cprov, So I keep an open eye on everything that has to do with open source
[11:05] <cprov> nandersson: oh, I see.
[11:05] <nandersson> cprov, I have used bzr-builddeb myself though :)
[11:05] <cprov> nandersson: isn't it great ?
[11:06] <nandersson> cprov, It sure is :) it saves a lot of time
[11:06] <nandersson> cprov, You guys are doing a great job streamlining the process
[11:07] <cprov> nandersson: thanks
[11:10] <cprov-lunch> guys, see you in a bit
[11:45] <zyx386> Rinchen, r u her?
[11:53] <beuno> zyx386, he won't for a few hours, it's his sleeping time  :)
[12:01] <zyx386> ok beuno
[12:01] <beuno> zyx386, maybe someone else can help you?
[12:02] <zyx386> i have translation problem
[12:03] <zyx386> in this team
[12:03] <zyx386> https://translations.launchpad.net/wordpress/2.5/+pots/wordpress/ckb/+index
[12:03] <zyx386> i can just edit translation
[12:03] <zyx386> i well approve another person
[12:04] <zyx386> can anyone help?
[12:04] <beuno> zyx386, I don't think I understand the problem. What are you trying to do?
[12:05] <zyx386> that is our tranlation
[12:05] <zyx386> https://translations.launchpad.net/wordpress/2.5/+pots/wordpress/ckb/+index
[12:05] <zyx386> r u understand?
[12:05] <zyx386> i manage this group
[12:06] <zyx386> i well approve another person to translate
[12:06] <zyx386> how?
[12:06] <beuno> you want to approve someone else?
[12:07] <zyx386> beuno, is solved
[12:07] <beuno> I'd assume adding them to the ~wpkurdish might do it
[12:07] <zyx386> i receive email from team
[12:07] <zyx386> thanx you to
[12:07] <beuno> :)
[12:23] <doko> can I disable the loooong list of tags in every bug list?
[12:23] <doko> can I disable the list of "subscribed to all" people in bug views?
[12:25] <nedko> how long it usually takes to review vcs-import branch?
[12:26] <andrea-bs> doko: for the first question: are you using edge?
[12:26] <doko> andrea-bs: yes, edge
[12:26] <andrea-bs> doko: you can't, sorry
[12:26] <doko> andrea-bs: will this be reverted?
[12:27] <andrea-bs> doko: I don't know
[12:27] <andrea-bs> doko: try to ask to mpt
[12:31] <mpt> doko, the answer to your first question is "Persuade someone to fix bug 59154"
[12:34] <mpt> doko, and the answer to your second question is "Persuade someone to fix bug 241150"
[12:36] <doko> mpt: \o/
[12:36] <mpt> I'm sorry I can't be more help than that
[13:32] <tarmot> Hi guys. I'm getting the "This account cannot be used." error message while trying to claim my account. Wasn't the error fixed like a week ago?
[13:33] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: ^
[13:33] <tarmot> (I may have done something wrong as I first tried to create a new account, and after digging around found that my e-mail was already automatically added; tried to claim it, which was successful, but login doesn't happen)
[13:34] <tarmot> actually both registering as a new user and claiming the account (both using the same email) were successful...
[13:38] <intellectronica> tarmot: let me see what's going on. we're still having occasional problems
[13:54] <nedko> how long it usually takes to review vcs-import branch?
[14:16] <stewart> anybody got an idea on why it takes 4 or 5 hours to push a mysql branch to launchpad? (even when it's my 2nd branch). Does launchpad not use a shared repo ?
[14:21] <Dark_Shadow> hi
[14:21] <Dark_Shadow> i want to know what is karma?
[14:21] <andrea-bs> Dark_Shadow: you may find this page useful: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/Karma
[14:22] <kgoetz> good vibes. ("points" you have "scored" by work on free software)
[14:22] <Dark_Shadow> ok
[14:42] <wormsxulla> !karma ChanServ
[14:42] <wormsxulla> !karma ubuntu
[14:42] <wormsxulla> ubottu: karma launchpad
[14:42] <wormsxulla> well, you suck! ;)
[14:43] <wormsxulla> with all due respect to your botitude
[14:43] <Ursinha> wormsxulla, try asking google
[14:43] <wormsxulla> Ursinha: i can't. google.com is in my hostfile
[14:43] <wormsxulla> hostsfile
[14:57] <ToyKeeper> wormsxulla: There are other names for google, such as google.co.uk, and other search engines, and in case they're all in a /etc/hosts you can't modify, it's still possible to access them via IP address or proxy.
[14:58] <wormsxulla> ToyKeeper: i know i know. i was only kidding (i hate google)
[14:58] <wormsxulla> but that's off-topic, i guess :)
[15:00] <ToyKeeper> Ah.  It's too early in the morning for me to detect sarcasm.  :)
[15:01] <wormsxulla> :) hehe
[15:46] <a_c_m> hi all, i've been playing with BZR and love it... i'm a Drupal developer - so was looking at https://code.launchpad.net/drupal but it seems to only be HEAD and does not have the all important tagg'ed releases - which would make it much more useful to the non core developers... is it possible to get these tagged versions imported as well and who would i need to ask?
[15:48] <mrevell> a_c_m: Right now, we only import projects' mainline. However, send an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and I'll make sure the right person sees it.
[15:50] <a_c_m> mrevell: writing it now - thanks
[15:50] <mrevell> a_c_m: great, thanks
[16:08] <a_c_m> mrevell: sent
[16:09] <mrevell> thanks
[16:41] <Laibsch> since a few hours I am the gnucash maintainer on LP.  I'd like to test out translation work wrt gnucash but I don't see a way to activate it
[16:41] <Laibsch> Where is the magic knob?
[16:42]  * soren <3 gnucash
[16:42] <beuno> Laibsch, https://launchpad.net/gnucash/+edit
[16:44] <Laibsch> soren: ?
[16:44] <Laibsch> beuno: thanks
[16:44] <soren> Laibsch: It's a heart. It's the way young people express liking for someone or something these days.
[16:45] <Laibsch> oh
[16:45] <Laibsch> glad you like it
[16:45] <Laibsch> and indeed it looks like a heart ;-)
[16:47] <soren> Young people lie down a lot these days, apparantly.
[16:49] <laga> passive voice would be worse..
[16:51] <soren> laga: hm?
[16:51] <laga> soren: "young people get laid a lot these days, apparently"
[16:51] <soren> If that's passive, you're doing it wrong.
[16:52] <soren> :p
[16:52]  * laga needs to work on his jokes.
[16:52] <laga> soren: yeah, i need to get on top of that
[16:52] <laga> of grammar, i mean
[16:52] <soren> Uhuh.
[16:52] <soren> :)
[18:48] <Rinchen> >> 10 minute advanced notice: Launchpad Team Meeting in #launchpad-meeting.  Come join us!
[18:57] <Rinchen> >> Launchpad Dev meeting happening now on #launchpad-meeting. Come Join us!
[19:12] <mathiaz> Hi - could somebody help figuring out why openldap trunk import on LP doesn't work ?
[19:12] <mathiaz> https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/openldap/main
[19:44] <Rinchen> changed the date for next mtg
[19:47] <wormsxulla> there are meetings?
[19:48] <Rinchen> #launchpad-meeting
[19:48] <Rinchen> as specified in the channel topic here
[19:50]  * sm catches his first launchpad dev meeting
[19:50] <sm> dang, you guys are smooth :)
[19:51] <sm> not even an argument
[20:19] <Laibsch> the server admin of the gnucash svn server claims you've been hosing his t1 line
[20:19] <Laibsch> He has blocked you now (I think he's just being a jerk)
[20:19] <Laibsch> https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnucash/trunk
[20:21] <siretart> Laibsch: perhaps you can explain him the issue and ask him to unblock launchpad? Or even better, he can provide a snapshot of the svn repository?
[20:25] <Laibsch> tar ball?
[20:25] <Laibsch> Is LP really taking oodles of bandwidth to import stuff?
[20:26] <Laibsch> I can't really believe it does
[20:26] <Laibsch> normal svn pull of the whole repo takes a few minutes and does not max out my connection
[20:26] <siretart> a 'normal' svn pull does not download the whole history
[20:26] <Laibsch> the import goes on for days, so the I/O should really be spread out
[20:30] <Laibsch> we'll probably get a tarball
[20:41] <Laibsch> siretart: I have an URL for yesterday's snapshot
[20:41] <Laibsch> who should I talk to?
[20:42] <siretart> Laibsch: I'd say the lp ticket and/or mwhudson
[20:42] <Laibsch> ping mwhudson
[20:42] <Laibsch> siretart: the thing is that I suspect the LP computers sucking up the bandwidth again once unblocked
[20:43] <Laibsch> but if they are blocked, it might also lead to trouble when downloading (if from same IP)
[20:43] <siretart> I don't think so, but you need to discuss this with mwhudson, I think
[20:43] <Laibsch> I am downloading the snapshot to my private computer to make sure things work smoothly
[20:44] <Laibsch> but my upload is limited in case I'd need to upload.  It would take a little while
[20:44] <Laibsch> few hours
[20:44] <siretart> Laibsch: if you pass me the url, I could place it on a machine at my university
[20:50] <statik> where can i find the source for ubottu?
[20:51] <beuno> statik, I believe this would be it:  https://code.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[20:51] <statik> beuno: ta
[21:20] <gijsisok> Hello. My Launchpad account is removed, but I has not removed it. And sorry for my bad English, I'm a 13 years old Dutch boy.
[21:20] <gijsisok> If I make a new account with the same emailadres it says that the account cannot be used.
[21:20] <gijsisok> Before this it says the same
[21:21] <gijsisok> Anybody knows what to do?
[21:22] <tavla> a little patience, gijsisok, someone who knows this error will answer when he or she sees the question
[21:23] <gijsisok> Okay
[21:23] <beuno> gijsisok, have you deleted it yourself, or requested it where deleted, or did this "just happen"?
[21:23] <intellectronica> gijsisok: hi. this is a problem we've encountered several times in the last few days. let me see if we can get someone to look at it now
[21:24] <intellectronica> gijsisok: what's your launchpad username?
[21:24] <gijsisok><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:24] <gijsisok> it just happens
[21:25] <intellectronica> sinzui: gijsisok seems to have lost his account
[21:26] <Drk_Guy> I'm having an issue, my PPA is HTTP 404
[21:26] <sinzui> gijsisok: How did it happen? adding an address, resetting the  the password?
[21:26] <Drk_Guy> http://ppa.launchpad.net/drkguy/ubuntu
[21:26] <gijsisok> Nothing I know, I has logged in a few weeks ago
[21:26] <gijsisok> And then it was working right
[21:27] <sinzui> :/
[21:27] <gijsisok> A few minutes ago, i has try to make a new account with the same emailadres, but that doesn't works
[21:29] <sinzui> gijsisok: ahh I see.I have heard of that. I'm going to fix that
[21:30] <gijsisok> Okay, thank you! :) Can I get offline now?
[21:30] <gijsisok> It's time to go sleeping in the Netherlands, so I want to go.
[21:32] <sinzui> gijsisok: if you ask a question https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad, I can leave a message when the status is fixed.
[21:32] <gijsisok> Okay, I do.
[21:32] <gijsisok> Goodbye
[21:33] <gijsisok> I can't, because I haven't a Launchpad account.
[21:34] <gijsisok> I can give you my mailadress, so you can send a message to me?
[21:34] <sinzui> Ha. I suck
[21:35] <sinzui> gijsisok: I'll be in this channel you can ping me
[21:35] <sinzui> /msg gijsisok you can contact me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:35] <gijsisok> Okay, I ask it in a few days to you.


[00:26] <nwidger> did the last .23 auto build update break anyone else's setup?
[01:50] <ScumBag> I'm having a problem with Miro, I'm sure this isn't the place but I have to start somewhere. I can't download feeds from ezrss in Miro, but I can open them in Firefox with no problems.
[16:37] <jolaren> Can someone take a look at my mythfilldatabase.. I can't get the XMLTV to work.. I've been running with EIT scanning before and it works but crashes my backend a few tmies a day
[16:38] <tmkt> Hey hey..for dd5.1 and dts passthrough which codec package should i have installed? i just installed libavcodec52 used to have libdevice-extra-52 libavformat-extra-52 and the unstripped-52
[16:42] <mrand> tmkt: sorry, no clue
[16:42] <mrand> jolaren: if it is crashing on 0.23 with auto-builds enabled, we'd love to get a back trace.
[16:43] <jolaren> I'm running the stable version, I think that's 0.22
[16:45] <jolaren> mrand, think I should upgrade?
[16:45] <jolaren> I just want my tv to work, I never want to touch my backend
[16:48] <mrand> jolaren: 0.23 isn't released and has a few rough edges, but is fine for most people.  In general, most people see improvements, but there are some random crashes still - hard to say if it would be an improvement for you or not.
[16:50] <jolaren> I tried running tv_grab_se_swedb --configure and then mythfilldatabase --manual
[16:50] <jolaren> but still the same errors
[17:00] <smoovemove> hello all - I recently upgraded my 0.22 (mythbuntu 9.10) to 0.23-rc1 using the control centre.  Worked like a charm, but it did not give me the Mythnetvision plugin.  What is the best way to install that and test it out?
[17:02] <superm1> smoovemove, apt-get install mythnetvision, or go to synaptic, or ubuntu software center and find it there
[17:03] <superm1> unfortunately that plugins page isn't dynamic in MCC based on what's available, it is hardcoded per each *buntu release
[17:06] <smoovemove> superm1: great, will give that a shot.  and makes sense about MCC.
[17:06] <smoovemove> superm1: thanks
[17:35] <bjd> hai!
[17:35] <bjd> am i in the right place to ask about installing newer myth packages with a vanilla ubuntu install?
[17:37] <superm1> bjd, sure
[17:38] <superm1> you can use the autobuilds on vanilla ubuntu installs too
[17:38] <superm1> http://mythbuntu.org/download-type
[17:39] <bjd> hm, does that url work for you?
[17:41] <superm1> Yeah it does
[17:41] <bjd> mm
[17:41] <superm1> just hit activate autobuilds on it
[17:41] <bjd> Ah, my v6 connection is broken
[17:41]  * bjd fixes
[17:45] <jolaren> teh fudge
[17:45] <bjd> ok, the site doesn't like v6 ;p
[17:45] <superm1> what's v6?
[17:45] <bjd> Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Exception' with message 'Invalid IP address...
[17:45] <superm1> ipv6?
[17:45] <bjd> ipv6
[17:45] <jolaren> ipv6?
[17:45] <mrand> ipv6?
[17:46] <mrand> sorry, didn't want to be left out.
[17:46] <superm1> haha
[17:46] <mrand> I don't think anyone calls it v6.
[17:46] <mrand> That an engine
[17:46] <jolaren> me neither
[17:47] <jolaren> I don't understand what I'm doing wrong with xmltv
[17:47] <jolaren> drives me crazy
[17:47] <jolaren> i hate fiddlin with me backend
[17:47] <superm1> jolaren, 10.04, uk radiotimes problem?
[17:50] <jolaren> naw the 'se' one
[18:06] <jolaren> tv_grab_se_swedb --configure --config-file '/home/joel/.mythtv/swedb.xmltv'
[18:06] <jolaren> and then mythfilldatabase --manual
[19:11] <icewolfca> I am using Mythbuntu 9.10 and I have my HVR-1600 working, but I get pink lines on the right side of the screen, is this a know issue?
[19:14] <rhpot1991> icewolfca: on every channel?  Is it a large section or maybe just a few pixels off to the side?
[19:16] <tgm4883> icewolfca, analog or digital?
[19:18] <rhpot1991> I was thinking possibly just junk in overscan
[19:19] <tgm4883> could be
[19:20] <icewolfca> its all atsc channels
[19:20] <icewolfca> analog is fine
[19:20] <icewolfca> its a considerable amount, i tried setting the aspect ratio etc
[19:20] <icewolfca> tried all of the different decoder combinations
[19:21] <icewolfca> I have searched google and I could not find anything
[19:23] <tmkt> icewolf is it a vertical line from top of the screen to the bottom?
[19:23] <icewolfca> yes many, verical on the right side
[19:23] <rhpot1991> icewolfca: take a screenshot
[19:23] <tmkt> ah..i just have the 1..
[19:23] <icewolfca> how?
[19:23] <tmkt> 1 line 2 pixels wide
[19:23] <rhpot1991> printscreen button?
[19:23] <icewolfca> ok
[19:23] <tmkt> and i don't think this error shows up on the screenshot
[19:23] <rhpot1991> and then throw it on something like imagebin
[19:24] <jolaren> §§§
[19:24] <icewolfca> ok
[19:24] <tmkt> icewolfca: ati video card?
[19:24] <jolaren> I really can't get XMLTV running smoothly, should It really be this much of an hazzle?
[19:24] <icewolfca> yes ati
[19:24] <jolaren> Spent over 3 hours with it already
[19:25] <rhpot1991> heh, that might be your issue
[19:25] <tmkt> did the line show up in your screenshot?
[19:25] <icewolfca> even the overlay is cut off a bit hah
[19:25] <tmkt> rhpot1991: yeah..i took my nvidia out
[19:25] <rhpot1991> jolaren: lucid?
[19:25] <tmkt> and went with the onboard ati
[19:25] <tmkt> and thats my problem
[19:25] <icewolfca> I am checking now
[19:25] <icewolfca> what can I paste it into?
[19:25] <icewolfca> the image
[19:25] <jolaren> rhpot1991, mythbuntu 9.10
[19:25] <icewolfca> I need to installa program
[19:26] <icewolfca> what should I use for screen capture?
[19:26] <rhpot1991> icewolfca: http://imagebin.org/
[19:27] <tmkt> print screen should ask you to save it to your destop
[19:37] <icewolfca> it does not ask me anything
[19:40] <superm1> on mythbuntu i dont think we install anything that would be capable of printscreen working
[19:40] <superm1> gnome uses gnome stuff to do it, and binds it
[19:40] <superm1> you can install gimp and probably do it with taht
[19:46] <tmkt> either way...i'm pretty sure that pink line won'tshow up on the screenshot
[19:47] <icewolfca> ok I am taking a picture
[19:47] <icewolfca> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1426
[19:47] <Zinn> [imgbin.org] ImgBin.Org: The #1 site for free, fast image hosting
[19:48] <icewolfca> http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1427
[19:48] <Zinn> [www.imgbin.org] ImgBin.Org: The #1 site for free, fast image hosting
[19:48] <icewolfca> closer picture to the crap
[19:48] <mrand> oh wow.  Does it look like that in programs other than myth?  Like vlc?
[19:48] <icewolfca> you mean the hvr-1600?
[19:48] <icewolfca> in digital mode?
[19:49] <icewolfca> I don't know how to test the atsc mode in another program
[19:49] <icewolfca> and it works fine in the windows machine so this I do know
[19:49] <tmkt> wow..that is definitely not my problem
[19:49] <icewolfca> hah
[19:49] <tmkt> mine is 1 line..2 pixels wide
[19:49] <tmkt> i can live with mine
[19:49] <tmkt> that one..i sure wouldn't be able to
[19:50] <icewolfca> its pretty bad
[19:50] <rhpot1991> yikes that is pretty bad
[19:50] <mrand> icewolfca: atsc is a don't care.  Now that it is tuned, you should be able to capture with cat /dev/video_device_name > filename.mpg
[19:50] <icewolfca> hah
[19:50] <mrand> Or you can use vlc.  Or probably lots of other things.
[19:50] <icewolfca> ok let me try that now and see
[19:50] <rhpot1991> thats definitely not overscan, so my theory is out
[19:50] <icewolfca> I am liking mythtv alot though
[19:51] <tmkt> everytime i get annoyed with my pink line...i'll think of yours and smile
[19:51] <icewolfca> hah
[19:52] <mrand> Until you said that it worked fine on Windoze, I was going to suggest a tuner hardware problem.  If this only appears on Linux, it's either kernel (either driver or firmware) or mythtv.
[19:52] <icewolfca> I thought "maybe" firmware since there are different verions of the card
[19:52] <icewolfca> but I wouldn't know which to try
[19:52] <rhpot1991> it almost looks like its doing an anlog size and filling in the rest with junk
[19:53] <rhpot1991> I'm not familiar with that card, but I know some of them don't play nicely between analog and digital
[19:53] <tmkt> so this only happens when watching video?
[19:53] <tmkt> stop watching video and the lines go away?
[19:53] <icewolfca> only atsc channels from /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0
[19:53] <tmkt> i have hvr-1600, and no problems with the tuner
[19:53] <tmkt> using DVB?
[19:53] <icewolfca> if I watch a xvid or analog tv its fine
[19:54] <icewolfca> the regular cable part of the card works great!
[19:55] <rhpot1991> icewolfca: assuming you've looked through this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-1600
[19:55] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Hauppauge HVR-1600 - MythTV
[19:55] <icewolfca> yes I have looked through there
[19:56] <icewolfca> I will try a different firmware version
[20:08] <Daviey> icewolfca: I would recommend imagemagick
[20:09] <Daviey> sudo apt-get install imagemagic
[20:10] <Daviey> then you can do from the console, sleep 10s ; import -window root screenshot.png
[20:13] <icewolfca> the image is there now
[20:14] <icewolfca> you guys think 1.5ghz is enough for 720p?
[20:14] <rhpot1991> if you have an nvidia card that can do VDPAU sure, if not then most likely no
[20:15] <tmkt> he's ati
[20:15] <icewolfca> rage 128
[20:15] <icewolfca> hah
[20:17] <icewolfca> ok then I will just stick to regular cable
[20:17] <icewolfca> and remove the DVB device until I get a better motherboard etc
[20:17] <icewolfca> I guess the ati rage 128 is causing it to barf
[20:18] <rhpot1991> once upon a time I ran 720p content on an amd athlon 1900+
[20:18] <icewolfca> this is an athlon 1800
[20:18] <rhpot1991> system was heavily tweaked and I was using XvMC
[20:18] <rhpot1991> it "worked" but I was not really happy with it
[20:19] <rhpot1991> you'd be better dedicating that box as a backend and picking up a cheap ion box for a frontend IMO
[20:19] <icewolfca> yes
[20:20] <icewolfca> I don't think it will play the hd content
[20:20] <icewolfca> that is ok
[20:20] <icewolfca> I put my vhs tapes in avi files
[20:20] <icewolfca> so I can watch those as well
[20:20] <icewolfca> and they work fine :)
[20:21] <icewolfca> I guess because the bit rate is lower than a prom dress
[20:22] <mrand> interesting way to put it.
[20:22] <tmkt> video card pci?
[20:22] <tmkt> pcie?
[20:23] <icewolfca> its agp
[20:23] <icewolfca> an older ati rage 128 pro
[20:24] <icewolfca> It is a very "high performance" card
[20:25] <rhpot1991> if by high performance you mean old as dirt :)
[20:26] <icewolfca> hah yes
[20:26] <icewolfca> I am guessing that the agp video card is the problem here
[20:26] <icewolfca> not a combination of firmware and drivers
[20:33] <mrand> if 720p is your goal, yeah, don't waste a lot of time on that card.
[20:54] <rhpot1991> agreed
[20:56] <icewolfca> yes
[20:56] <icewolfca> thank you
[21:13] <stevieman> To get IRBlaster working mythbuntu is there a how-to or will this work http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=24
[21:13] <Zinn> [www.blushingpenguin.com] LIRC PVR-150 IR blaster support, version 3 « Mark’s Braindump
[21:15] <stevieman> !help
[21:15] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[21:15] <stevieman> !about irblaster
[21:15] <Zinn> I am an IRC bot written in perl, but my code is not yet released.  I am named after Howard Zinn, you can learn more about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinn