[19:13] <majestik> i need help i have an error 17 with grub
[19:13] <ikonia> RAMDAC: if you search ubuntu forums you'll find that's a common problem
[19:13] <majestik> i must to boot with my cd
[19:13] <IndyGunFreak> BrettS: are you on the live cd?
[19:13] <majestik> can you help me
[19:13] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: Which release (lsb_release -a) and kernel version do you need (uname -r)
[19:13] <samsom> how do i use irc via terminal...i have installed ircii. but how do i open it in a terminal
[19:13] <BrettS> I am doing this through a flash drive
[19:13] <oddhere74> the one I managed to find in the repository was version 2.6.15-53.75, it's not even for the version of kernel installed now
[19:13] <ikonia> BrettS: do you have any unallocated disk space (as in not allocated to the vista partition)
[19:13] <BrettS> No I do not, that is my issue ikonia
[19:13] <etko> ikonia could it be caused by that ubuntu boax has also ip6 enabled?
[19:13] <BrettS> Vista thinks it all  belongs to it
[19:14] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: I need kernel-devel package for version 2.6.25-2
[19:14] <ikonia> BrettS: that is a problem as you probably won't be able to resize the partition
[19:14] <ikonia> etko: doubtful
[19:14] <BrettS> Though I do have FREE disk space that CAN be partitioned
[19:14] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: We didn't publish a 2.6.25 kernel
[19:14] <ikonia> etko: unless you on an ip 6 network it wont matter
[19:14] <req^> I have a stange problem. My ubuntu desktop system has en_US.utf-9 locale and so does my server, and my characters are correct. However when I alt+[number] to change windows in irssi I get strange symbols like "±²³´µ¶·". How should I go about fixing this?
[19:14] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: mine is 2.6.27 but I got 2.6.25 and booted it
[19:14] <ikonia> BrettS: free space is not unallocated space, so I doubt you'll be able to re-size your partition with the ubuntu tools
[19:14] <RAMDAC> ikonia:i've searched but all problems happens for people has intel hda but me having nvidia is the problem
[19:14] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: How !
[19:14] <etko> ikonia : okay thx
[19:14] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: Wher'd you get 2.6.25 from? Not the Ubuntu archives?
[19:14] <BrettS> do i need to unallocate some space with vista
[19:14] <BrettS> then re-boot up?
[19:14] <ikonia> BrettS: yes
[19:14] <BrettS> okay thanks ill try that out
[19:14] <IndyGunFreak> BrettS: you should be able to use gparted to create some unallocated space
[19:15] <ikonia> BrettS: you need free partition space to be able to resize
[19:15] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: not if his whole disk is allocated,
[19:15] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: yes the Ubuntu repository
[19:15] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: Show me the output of "uname -a" please
[19:15] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: OK
[19:15] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: it won't always allow it if there is all space allocated and the file system too full to swap it out
[19:15] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: i don't know, i've never had a problem w/ it
[19:15] <beligerant> Jaunty is pretty good, just got it installed.
[19:15] <rods> Where/how can I get the latest Docky/Gnome Do?
[19:16] <ikonia> beligerant: it's also discussed in #ubuntu+1 not here
[19:16] <beligerant> bye
[19:16] <rods> I have the version that comes with the standard Ubunutu repositories
[19:16] <hippie> Hello everyone. I want to setup a static IP for my workstation, so I edited /etc/network/interfaces to suit my needs, and I edited /etc/resolv.conf with openDNS servers... after reboot I can ping IP's but DNS doesn't work. When leftclicking on the network icon (gnome) I get the msg: Wired Network - device is unmanaged. What have I done wrong?
[19:16] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: Linux hostname 2.6.25-2-386 #1 date/time i686 GNU/Linux
[19:16] <nellmathew> there a way to add the password to a sudo command instead of having it prompt you for it afterwards?
[19:16] <FeRcHo> salu2
[19:16] <OriWB> Ikonia: do you work for linux?
[19:16] <ikonia> OriWB: no
[19:16] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: As I thought... the kernel you have isn't an Ubuntu kernel... I suspect you got it from kernel.org
[19:17] <FeRcHo> que onda que cuentan
[19:17] <ikonia> nellmathew: yes, the /etc/sudoers file (edit it with sudo visudo) you need to tell it to not prompt for a password for your user
[19:17] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: I didn't actually
[19:17] <nellmathew> thanks!
[19:17] <rods> Where/how can I get the latest Docky/Gnome Do? I have the version that comes with the standard Ubunutu repositories, but I understand that isn't  the latest release
[19:17] <ikonia> nellmathew: well documented in the man page
[19:17] <MacGyverNL|LT> I have a feeling one of my USB ports is broken. Can anyone confirm this is a hardware and not a driver problem? syslog output at http://rafb.net/p/8dKAdA29.html
[19:17] <reduz> FeRcHo, no habla espanol
[19:17] <ikonia> rods: if there is no package you can't get one - you'd need to make a ackage yourself
[19:17] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: Ubuntu kernels contains the Ubuntu build information in their version
[19:17] <OriWB> Ikonia: ok, so your just an awesome person I can't praise to a superior... Ok, well then thanx again!
[19:17] <reduz> damn pulseaudio to the bottom of help, as it keeps freezing
[19:17] <reduz> er
[19:17] <reduz> of hell
[19:17] <IndyGunFreak> BrettS: vista has a partitioning tool i do believe, it should let you change some free space to some unallocated space
[19:17] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: well I just need an earlier kernel than 2.6.27 which is the default I got with Ubuntu Hardy, to be able to run vmware
[19:17] <ikonia> OriWB: no need, happy to help
[19:18] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: Is it possible you got it from the Ubuntu Linux/ports for i386?
[19:18] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: Take a look here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-ports/
[19:18] <pauwels_> Still have the same problem
[19:18] <pauwels_> could you help me with my sound?
[19:19] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: Hardy (8.04) uses kernel 2.6.24 , Intrepid (8.10) uses 2.6.27
[19:19] <caboosification> hey whats the best virtual machine for running ubuntu in xp ?
[19:19] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: well, it wasn't a port, but let's just forgot about it, if I could find the devel package then it's solved, but your hint in regards of vmware-server would be greatly appreciated to
[19:19] <ikonia> caboosification: as in ##windows
[19:19] <oddhere74> s/to/too/g
[19:19] <ikonia> caboosification: more important to get the host - rather than the guest supported
[19:19] <pauwels_> ikonia
[19:20] <pauwels_> can i ask my question to you?
[19:20] <ikonia> pauwels_: sure
[19:20] <pauwels_> when i run with livecd
[19:20] <pauwels_> i get stereo sound
[19:20] <caboosification> ikonia: so its just better to use the default windows one ?
[19:20] <pauwels_> buth in normal  i get only the right channel
[19:20] <pauwels_> i checked my mixers
[19:20] <pauwels_> EVRYTHING :/
[19:20] <FloodBot1> pauwels_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <pauwels_> i just cant find it
[19:20] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: I saw "linux-headers-2.6.25-2-386_2.6.25-2.3_i386.deb" in the archive ports - that looks close, but the "uname -a" looked like it was a custom-built kernel since it didn't include the Ubuntu name nor a build date/time
[19:20] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: yes you're right, sorry I'm using IRC on another machine which is 8.04, but the machine I'm trying to run vmware-server on is 8.10
[19:20] <ikonia> caboosification: you can try it
[19:21] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: lol Ahhhhh! You were confusing me greatly there
[19:21] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: I'm so sorry yes I can imagine
[19:21] <ikonia> pauwels_: that's most odd
[19:21] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: I use KVM for VMs so I can't help you with vmware
[19:21] <pauwels_> y indeed  :|
[19:21] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: having lots of issues around here trying to sort out
[19:21] <pauwels_> cant i reset the sound somehow?
[19:22] <caboosification> ikonia: what would you suggest tho ? i have no experience with virtual machines so far
[19:22] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: Maybe the vmware forums can help you more? They probably have more people with experience of these kind of issues than you're going to find here.
[19:22] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: basically my problem is the linux-headers-2.6.x and devel packages
[19:22] <ikonia> caboosification: vmware on a windows platform is popular, as the guys in ##windows
[19:22] <rods> How do I ensure I have a 64-bit system install of Ubuntu? I have an amd-64 system (as far as I know)
[19:23] <ikonia> rods: show me the output of uname -a
[19:23] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: well yes you're probably right, and thanks so much you've helped me figure somethings out
[19:23] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: Well, I i see the *Ubuntu* headers and devel packages for <IP_ADDRESS> in that archive directory I pointed yo to
[19:23] <hipzen> Hello everyone. I want to setup a static IP for my workstation, so I edited /etc/network/interfaces to suit my needs, and I edited /etc/resolv.conf with openDNS servers... after reboot I can ping IP's but DNS doesn't work. When leftclicking on the network icon (gnome) I get the msg: Wired Network - device is unmanaged. What have I done wrong? (sorry for the repost, got thrown off..)
[19:23] <rods> ikonia: Where/how can I get the latest Docky/Gnome Do?
[19:23] <rods> sorry
[19:23] <rods> hang on
[19:23] <rods> ikonia: Linux dellicious 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:24] <darkblue_B> Q. bzlib.h not found.. What package to get bzlib.h ??
[19:24] <ikonia> rods: that's 32bit
[19:24] <rods> I see
[19:24] <ikonia> darkblue_B: bzip development
[19:24] <mattva01> does anyone know how to add a service to the Administration>Services menu?
[19:24] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: It's just that based on that uname output I'm suspicious that the running kernel wasn't built by Ubuntu... *unless* the ports build was broken in that regard and no-one spotted it
[19:24] <rods> ikonia: does that mean I'm not getting hte most out of my syste<
[19:24] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: which are the devel packages, aren't those headers?
[19:24] <shawnmstout> anyone here use linuxmce?
[19:24] <darkblue_B> ikonia: apt-cache search doesnt show that ??
[19:24] <ikonia> rods: not at all 32bit systems will perform just as well
[19:24] <shawnmstout> pretty nice addon
[19:24] <ikonia> darkblue_B: search for bzip and look at the packages
[19:24] <darkblue_B> ikonia: yes, i did.. gambas something
[19:25] <darkblue_B> some ruby things
[19:25] <ikonia> gambas something ?
[19:25] <darkblue_B> yes
[19:25] <rods> ikonia: much thanks. I appreciate it
[19:25] <darkblue_B> 8.10
[19:25] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: Yes, the 'headers' packages is the same thing as 'devel' - containing the include header files
[19:25] <ikonia> darkblue_B: libbz2-dev
[19:25] <darkblue_B> ikonia: thx so much!!!
[19:25] <pauwels_> ikonia cant i reset the sound?
[19:26] <pauwels_> settings i  mean
[19:26] <darkblue_B> ikonia: how did you get that?
[19:26] <ikonia> darkblue_B: apt-cache search bzip2
[19:27] <ikonia> pauwels_: errr don't know off the top of my head, I'm not massivly up on sound
[19:27] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: exactly that is what drives me completely crazy here cause vmware's message is as follows:- The path "path" is a kernel header file directory, but it is  not part of kernel source tree.
[19:27] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: I have my doubts that it's not just a vmware issue, am I right?
[19:27] <darkblue_B> ikonia: thank you
[19:27] <ikonia> no problem
[19:28] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: and forgive my ignorance
[19:28] <Nom-> Does anyone know if "nfsstat -m" shows the options which are actually applying to the mountpoint?  I've tried to change a few options, and they show up in "mount" but not "nfsstat -m"
[19:29] <MBC> Hello. After mounting the ubuntu standerd desktop iso and selecting my language (english). I am taken to a screen where I can select "Install". When I hit install the screen fills and ends with the text "end trace 4eaa2a86 etc" Help?
[19:29] <oddhere74> IntuitiveNipple: thanks so much for the help, it's greatly appreciated :-)
[19:30] <MBC> I have checked the md5sum thingy
[19:30] <IntuitiveNipple> oddhere74: Good luck with that :)
[19:30] <ikonia> MBC: sounds like a hardware error and your getting a stack trace
[19:30] <ikonia> MBC: try a different CD image
[19:31] <MBC> it is a virtual PC though ikonia
[19:32] <mustangg> does anacron poll for changes to anacrontab? or must it be restarted...?
[19:32] <ikonia> MBC: sounds like a hardware error with the virtual PC in the way it presents pretend hardware
[19:32] <ikonia> mustangg: real time changes
[19:32] <MBC> ikonia: What do you mean by a different CD image?
[19:33] <ikonia> MBC: a diffent ISO image, but it sounds like it's not happy with the way virtual PC presents hardware
[19:34] <MBC> But other people don't have this problem do they
[19:34] <MBC> ?
[19:34] <carebear> server irc.homelien.no
[19:34] <fluitfries> so i'm trying to use gparted from the live cd, but xubuntu keeps auto mounting my disk...
[19:35] <fluitfries> i unmount it, and then it gets mounted again in 30 secounds.
[19:35] <fluitfries> how can i stop this?
[19:35] <fluitfries> can't use gparted when it's mounted obvously.
[19:35] <DVA5912> Supposedly Command and Conquer Tiberium works with wine, but ive got it installed and its just sitting at the title screen (an image) is their any reason its just sitting their or do i need to wait some more?
[19:35] <mustangg> ikonia - thanks. And might you know how I can check if job/jobs listed there are running?
[19:35] <Renfield> Hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu for the first time, and I have a fundamental problem.
[19:36] <ikonia> mustangg: not sure if there is an interface into anacron but you can look in /etc/jobs.daily jobs.weekly jobs.monthly to see what gets run
[19:36] <ortsvorsteher> Renfield: which one?
[19:36] <Renfield> I can't get my computer to boot off of the CD-RW that I burnt of Ubunto 8.10.
[19:36] <fluitfries> do i need to remove the aufs line in /etc/fstab?  maybe this is what keeps remounting my filesystem?
[19:36] <gredorian> Hey. Pidgin never warns me when I have new messages on open chat windows... is that a GNOME problem or what? can I fix it?
[19:36] <ikonia> Renfield: you need to set your bios to boot from CD before hard disk
[19:36] <DVA5912> Renfield: check your bios
[19:36] <Renfield> ikonia: Yep, that works. I was able to boot another disk.
[19:36] <kiosk> cok
[19:36] <ikonia> Renfield: then your disk has a problem
[19:37] <Renfield> I get it to where it says ISOLINUX 3.63 ... and then it says Loading Linux....
[19:37] <IntuitiveNipple> fluitfries: Disable "browse media when inserted" in a Nautilus window via Edit > Preferences > Media
[19:37] <threexk> hello.  I changed my password using passwd, but my keyring password (for wireless) didn't change.  How can I update it?
[19:37] <Renfield> Then the screen goes blank and nothing happens.
[19:37] <fluitfries> IntuitiveNipple: this is xubuntu, is there an equivalent?
[19:37] <MBC> ikonia: what can I do?
[19:37] <ikonia> MBC: not use virtual PC ? try a different CD Image ?
[19:37] <_brujo> bones
[19:37] <ikonia> Renfield: what video card do you have ?
[19:38] <ikonia> _brujo: ?
[19:38] <_brujo> inonia?
[19:38] <fluitfries> IntuitiveNipple: it is working now, i just hope the automount doesn't attempt whilst i am resizing this partition...  :/
[19:38] <Renfield> ikonia: Intel 945GC, I think is it.
[19:38] <ikonia> _brujo: what are you talking about "bones"
[19:38] <lucasemmanoel> ola a todos mais cedo vim aqui pedir um help por causa do tecaldo e agora estou passando para dizer que resolvi, valeu pela força galera
[19:38] <ikonia> Renfield: really they are normally very well supported
[19:38] <_brujo> sorry, ikonia?
[19:38] <R0D0LF0> Hello. Somebody here "does" have y Ati's Hybrid Crossfire  up and runing on a Dual Boot (Ubuntu/windows) system?
[19:38] <ikonia> Renfield: for interests sake you may want to try the ubuntu alternative install CD
[19:39] <Renfield> ikonia: I don't think it is the video. The CD-ROM stops loading also.
[19:39] <DVA5912> Anyone play Command And Conquer
[19:39] <ikonia> 19:07 < _brujo> bones
[19:39] <ikonia> _brujo: that's what you said
[19:39] <ikonia> DVA5912: why ?
[19:39] <ortsvorsteher> !somebody | R0D0LF0
[19:39] <DVA5912> ikonia: What version? I have tiberium and its sitting at the image loading
[19:39] <_brujo> _silvia40?
[19:39] <ikonia> DVA5912: I don't play it using ubuntu
[19:40] <ikonia> _brujo: why do you keep saying random words ?
[19:40] <_brujo> random words? do you speak catalan, ikonia?
[19:40] <fluitfries> is it really a bad idea to rename the XP boot partition from F: to C: after you've installed XP (having installed Ubuntu first) ?
[19:40] <mago> ciao nessuno italiano?
[19:40] <ikonia> _brujo: no, you just said "bones" and "_silvia40" they make no-sense on their own
[19:41] <ikonia> !it > mago
[19:41] <caboosification> whats a simple light weight linux distro for systems programming purposes ?
[19:41] <R0D0LF0> Hello. Does anyone here have y Ati's Hybrid Crossfire  up and runing on a Dual Boot (Ubuntu/windows) system?
[19:41] <ikonia> caboosification: this is ubuntu support only - please ask in ##linux
[19:41] <mago> belin tuti stranieri
[19:41] <lilendian> can someone please tell me why mplayer (and any other front-end that uses it) takes a long time playing back videos upon drag-n-drop or even in transit from one item on the playlist to the next?
[19:41] <mago> extracomunitari
[19:42] <lilendian> I am pretty sure that my system specs are more than enough to meet any requirements
[19:42] <Renfield> ikonia: I'm sorry, but I don't see an alternative install CD from the ubuntu.com website. It shows 8.10 desktop, 8.04 LTS desktop, 8.10 server and 8.04 LTS server. Also 32/64 bit options. I currently have 8.10 64 bit. Do you mean for me to try 8.04 LTS?
[19:42] <foxjazz> is there a way to use cp to cpy files and not prompt for overwrite?
[19:42] <lilendian> is this something thats triggered by some weird option? Double buffering? or perhaps audio options?
[19:43] <nex__> i would like to have some assistance on "multibutton" trying to get my v320 logitech mouse to work with back and forward in firefox.
[19:43] <Renfield> ikonia: Also, I am a bit concerned that the ISO image file is 699 meg, but my CD-RWs clearly say 650Meg on them.
[19:43] <ikonia> Renfield: if you look a little further just before you start the download it will say "click here to download the alternative image"
[19:43] <fluitfries> very cool how gparted shows the actual commands it's using to apply changes.  :)
[19:44] <Renfield> ikonia: Oh, do you mean the "text based alternate installer installation disk"?
[19:44] <MacGyverNL|LT> Looks like unsetting the proxy in System -> Preferences -> Network proxy, and applying systemwide, doesn't unset environment variables. How do I globally unset those so that Synaptic doesn't use them? Preferably without restarting X.org.
[19:44] <DVA5912> Ok got command and conquer installed to ubuntu but when i got to play it all i get is the title image displaying to maby three seconds then it dissapears and nothing else happens. What could be wrong?
[19:44] <DVA5912> the cd is in the drive soo..
[19:45] <ikonia> DVA5912: you may want to ask in #winehq - I assume you're using wine
[19:45] <ikonia> Renfield: that's it
[19:46] <milostrife> how do i set up tvtime
[19:47] <ortsvorsteher> !tvtime
[19:47] <Renfield> Also, just to be sure, this is an Intel Core 2 Duo, which I believe is of the EM64T architecture, but I am downloading the AMD64 ISO image. Is this compatible?
[19:47] <ortsvorsteher> !info tvtime
[19:48] <ikonia> Renfield: fine
[19:52] <pr1r> hello all i have a quick question i have had ubuntu on this pc since 5.04 or something crazy like that and it dual boots ubuntu and windoze and ive always wanted to just redo the ubuntu partition.  my question is can i just write the new version of ubuntu over the partition w/o corrupting the windoZe install? thanks in advance
[19:54] <pr1r> wow not one person
[19:54] <fluitfries> about how long should it take to resize a 200g partition to 170?
[19:54] <pr1r> friut you using gparted?
[19:55] <miller_> pr1r, I've never had a problem reinstalling a dual boot system if ubuntu was installed second by deleting and reformatting the ubuntu partition;  this will reinstall the boot loader to allow dual booting
[19:56] <pr1r> miller, i dont want to have to install windoZe again.  its a pain.  all i use that for is for my steam account you know? i basically want to write over this partition with a fresh install of ubuntu
[19:56] <jrib> !away > olibi
[19:57] <jrib> pr1r: not exactly what you asked, but you realize steam works fine in wine?
[19:57] <pr1r> i dont do wine
[19:57] <jakswa> pr1r, me too, only for steam :-\
[19:57] <pr1r> jrib i would love nothing more than to use wine i have in the past
[19:57] <miller_> pr1r, as long as you installed windows first, and ubuntu second, you can reinstall ubuntu to your hearts content; as long as you don't format the windows partition of course;  I also found a VM for small things works wonderfully, I suggest virtualbox for ease of use
[19:58] <pr1r> miller_ thank you very much, info is much appreciated
[19:58] <miller_> I run a VPN software for work in a VM and that's all I use it for
[19:58] <Grinko> can't get the samsung Unified linux driver unpacked , tried using terminal, any help please?
[19:59] <olibi> jirb: ok, however i would like an answer to my post...?
[19:59] <krazyfingerz47> Somebody knows about a nice black-high-tech theme for ubuntu? please let me know.
[20:02] <{g}> Hey People! In a script, how do i say "if commandline parameter 1 equals abc then x=def"?
[20:03] <pr1r> anyone have an eee?
[20:03] <mindrape> {g} head over to #bash and read the topic... they reference lots of good tutorials that explain scripting in depth.
[20:03] <gordonjcp> pr1r: lots of people
[20:04] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | pr1r
[20:05] <pr1r> i dont have any questions about the eee im good on that
[20:05] <pr1r> just askin if anyone has one
[20:05] <pr1r> no big deal
[20:05] <cjae> !sweep
[20:06] <cjae> isn't there a new thing in ubuntu that is similar to windows ccleaner?
[20:06] <pr1r> i have 3 of em and love em
[20:06] <Flannel> cjae: What's that?
[20:06] <Cody> Can anybody help me hook up my xbox live? I have a wireless connection on my laptop and am trying via ethernet to hook up the xbox from my computer.
[20:06] <[TiZ]> Hi. I'm having a weird problem with my gnome-panel, more specifically, the task switcher. Once in a random while, the ellipses that indicate that a window's title is too long are replaced with accented capital Es. This happens to Firefox tabs too. Can anyone help me with this?
[20:06] <Flannel> !ics | Cody
[20:07] <aixenv> whats the best torrent program for linux?
[20:07] <olibi> rtorrent
[20:07] <helo> is it better to try to install 2.6.28 in intrepid, or install the devel version which includes it?
[20:07] <Flannel> !best | aixenv
[20:07] <helo> rtorrent is nice...
[20:08] <[TiZ]> axienv: I prefer Deluge, myself. You just have to try them and see which you like best
[20:08] <klasikahl> the Lock Screen item from the logout dropdown int he upper right hand corner of gnome -- does anyone know if i can invoke this from the command line?
[20:08] <klasikahl> and how?
[20:08] <KEBA1> kde4 disabled my compositing because there are to slow... now i changed the settings and want to activate it, but under system settings i get this error: http://junemaster.ju.funpic.de/quote/index.php?id=881&delid=PUBVzPiyDQQmRSu
[20:09] <cjae> Flannel: I regigtry scanner but primarily a system sweeper, cleans out temp internet files, cookies and such
[20:09] <olibi> aixenv: if you are member of private trackers you should check out the vlient allow/ban list
[20:09] <chris-rc1> hi
[20:09] <Flannel> cjae: Just use the clean temporary file thing in firefox, and then sudo apt-get autoclean
[20:09] <chris-rc1> is there an easy way to configure and use an ISDN connection in hardy?
[20:10] <cjae> Flannel: thought there was supposed to be some great new system cleaner in intrepid
[20:10] <adaptr> chris-rc1: external ISDN modem ?
[20:11] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600
[20:11] <commander_> when is 9.04 out or has anyone got it?
[20:11] <failers> alpha is out
[20:12] <Flannel> cjae: There's not much to clean, package management keeps cruft down.  I haven't heard anything about that, nor do I see it: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810overview
[20:12] <Flannel> commander_: Version numbers are year.month, so 9.04 comes out in April of 2009
[20:12] <vigo> What is a good firewall for a desktop/server?
[20:12] <Flannel> !firewall | vigo
[20:12] <haole> hello there... i've just bought a new keyboard, but some of the keys won't respond even when I'm running "xev"... what should i do to map them?
[20:12] <aixenv> iptables :P
[20:13] <vigo> Thank you
[20:13] <cjae> Flannel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2008-October/008049.html
[20:13] <zash> !ufv
[20:13] <Nom-> Oh... crap... noac implies sync... does it go the other way too?
[20:13] <zash> !ufvw
[20:13] <zash> !ufw
[20:13] <chris-rc1> adaptr: no, it is an interanl fritz card
[20:13] <aixenv> so whats the word on intrepid? worth upgrading yet?
[20:13] <zash> !package ufw
[20:13] <Nom-> Bloody hell... hate Sun storage gear...never buy it... a bug in that stupid gear means we have to use sync on ur nfs mounts
[20:13] <Nom-> *sigh*
[20:14] <whatev> is there a website where i can do the equivalent of 'apt-cache search <package>'? that way i can read about ubuntu packages even when i'm on my windows machine at work
[20:14] <aixenv> nfs mounts blow in general
[20:14] <Flannel> cjae: Alright, so install system-cleaner and go to town; from the description it sounds like it just automates the process of removing old packages in package management.  Not cookies, etc (which makes sense)
[20:14] <Flannel> whatev: packages.ubuntu.com
[20:14] <whatev> aixenv everyone i know whose upgraded is happy
[20:14] <whatev> thanks Flannel
[20:14] <aixenv> whatev : ok cool ty
[20:14] <commander_> can you use the Alpha one for now?
[20:14] <upd> hi, where can i give source code of top program ?
[20:14] <whatev> upd give or get
[20:15] <upd> get, sorry
[20:15] <Flannel> commander_: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty questions, yes, you can.  But it's alpha software, so... it's not necessarily stable
[20:15] <zash> upd: apt-get source top
[20:15] <thomc> any boinc users here?
[20:15] <upd> zash: that don't work.
[20:15] <cjae> Flannel: was just asking, did n't know what it did, is this the same as the autoclean command?
[20:16] <cjae> Flannel: I just found that link two min ago
[20:16] <AdyTcl> any 1 knows if anope services can be installed on ubuntu ?
[20:16] <krazyfingerz47> Somebody knows about a nice black theme for ubuntu 8.10?
[20:16] <Flannel> cjae: no, autoclean removes old package files (the deb files), this removes old libraries that aren't required, and also the things in synaptic labeled "local or obsolete packages" (well, the obsolete part of those, anyway)
[20:17] <carpii_> hi all, im using ubuntu 8.04 and my houses central heating has packed up. can someone help me fix it :((
[20:17] <commander_> Cool .No pressure. Just want to see what's in store since I'm addicted to Linux
[20:17] <quibbler> upd: http://mailman.uclinux.org/pipermail/uclinux-dev/2004-February/024154.html
[20:17] <Er2K> krazyfingerz47:  Check the mythbuntu themes.  They have a couple of very nice black ones.
[20:18] <upd> quibbler: thanks you
[20:18] <krazyfingerz47> Er2K, kk thanks
[20:18] <quibbler> upd: you are welcome
[20:18] <whatev> where can i read up on how the ubuntu keyring thing works
[20:18] <zash> upd: apt-get source $(dpkg -S $(which top) | cut -d: -f1)
[20:19] <zash> upd: dvs apt-get source procps :D
[20:19] <JC_Denton__> I think I have just lost all my photos 0_o was there a ctrl+t shortcut in nautilus that would delete a directory or something? strangely enough the drive says it still has the same amount of space free as it had before teh dissapearance of the files
[20:20] <upd> zash: interesting
[20:20] <zash> JC_Denton__: check the trash?
[20:20] <zash> upd: bash is awesome!
[20:20] <Confetti> I can't get Ubuntu to boot for the first time, either from the install or from live CD
[20:21] <zash> JC_Denton__: ctrl+t seems to open a new tab for me
[20:21] <Guisepe> hola ubuntu.es
[20:21] <JC_Denton__> zash: just did. phew they're in there
[20:21] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm trying to back up my / partition using "dd if=/dev/sda1 | gzip > of=/home/username/storage/backupfile.gz" and I keep getting "no such file or directory" for the "of" part of the command. do I have to touch the file first?
[20:21] <aixenv> "this computer is currently using the AMD 'fglrx' graphics driver. no version is avaiable that works in 8.10" is that somethign to be concerned about?
[20:21] <aixenv> or a false positive
[20:21] <JC_Denton__> zash: Don't know how they ended up in there though
[20:21] <Confetti> PM me when it's my turn
[20:21] <miller_> Confetti, any error messages?
[20:21] <Confetti> nope
[20:21] <Confetti> GUI
[20:21] <JC_Denton__> ironically enough they all dissapeared right now when I'm implementing my backup solution
[20:21] <whatev> how can i get nm-applet to stop asking me for keyring password
[20:21] <_VIM_> JC_Denton__: you should get some sort of backup software
[20:21] <Confetti> it just boots to the Ubuntu orange, then goes black
[20:22] <_VIM_> !backup | JC_Denton__
[20:22] <chocobanana> hi everyone!!!!
[20:22] <JC_Denton__> VIM_ I've just added another 500gb drive and am thinking of using rsync to backup my partition to the new drive
[20:22] <jbmigel> hey there chocobanana!
[20:22] <chocobanana> :)
[20:22] <deany> Seven_Six_Two,  wouldnt that command try to backup your /home too..
[20:22] <Er2K> Confetti: Muck with the video options from the boot menu on the CD.  I've seen that a few times and going to 640x480 at least got it booted far enough to choose a real video setup.
[20:23] <failers> sudo cp / /media/sdb :P ?
[20:23] <Confetti> aight, bbiaf
[20:23] <Cody> Im sorry but i didnt understand the website i was directed to. I need to hook up my xbox360 to my computer? Can anyone help me. This compupter is wireless and im trying to conect from this computer via ethernet
[20:23] <_VIM_> JC_Denton__: ok good enough, if you need GUI for that it's called grsync and for cron you'll want gnome-schedule
[20:23] <deany> sudo cp -a
[20:23] <Seven_Six_Two> deany, no, my home is on a different partition. and /home/username/storage is yet another
[20:23] <JC_Denton__> vim_ thanks
[20:23] <deany> Seven_Six_Two, it might be on another partition, but, its a directory inside /
[20:23] <deany> hence, it`ll get included
[20:23] <_VIM_> JC_Denton__: np
[20:24] <Seven_Six_Two> deany, that's why I'm not trying to dd /, but /dev/sda1
[20:24] <zash> JC_Denton__: you could check out mrb, a makefile+rsync-script
[20:24] <deany> you arent specifying partitions
[20:24] <deany> o
[20:24] <deany> sorry
[20:24] <deany> misread
[20:24] <AdamS42a> I am setting up a proxy server with Ubuntu 8.04 server. eth0 is on the LAN side, eth1 is connected to the router. Only eth1 can ping my router, thus nothing on the LAN can get past eth0. What should I be looking at to pass traffic between eth0 and eth1? Squid? Routing? What?
[20:25] <Necrathex> hmw: just succesfully moved my /home to a new partition, thanks again ;)
[20:25] <klasikahl> AdamS42a: nat
[20:25] <deany> doesnt it have to be unmounted first if you use DD?
[20:25] <klasikahl> AdamS42a: iptables nat
[20:25] <Er2K> Seven_Six_Two: You might find partimage or the imaging stuff in parted/gparted a bit more manageable.
[20:25] <hmw> Necrathex congratz!
[20:25] <AdamS42a> klasikahl, that's in squid, right?
[20:25] <deany> Seven_Six_Two, i use clonezilla myself.. live cd, nice and quick
[20:25] <fluitfries> if i installed linux first, then XP second on my dual-boot system, can i change the drive from G: to C: ?
[20:25] <Seven_Six_Two> deany, it is mounted. I wasn't sure if that would matter.
[20:25] <BrettS> i installed ubuntu on my 965g intel intregraded video card, and it says im missing XGL or something, anyone know what it means?
[20:26] <deany> Seven_Six_Two, i *think* it has to be unmounted.....
[20:26] <Seven_Six_Two> Er2K, gparted does whole partition backups with compression?
[20:26] <deany> no
[20:26] <Seven_Six_Two> it's a 15gb partition with about 3gb of data and I don't want a 15gb file
[20:26] <russia213> Can I get help with GRUB? I get error 15 file not found
[20:26] <Seven_Six_Two> but it's / so I'm worried about just backing up the directories
[20:27] <JC_Denton__> zash: not all that good with scripts
[20:27] <Er2K> Seven_Six_Two:  My bad.  Gparted won't, but partimage will.
[20:27] <Er2K> using dd to backup raw filesystems has not always been reliable for me.....make sure to test you restore before you announce it 'backed up'
[20:27] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm checking out those links that ubottu dumped, and I'll check out partimage too. thanks
[20:28] <deany> Seven_Six_Two, if you dont mind rebooting i`d use clonezilla..
[20:28] <deany> does disk or partition images
[20:28] <Seven_Six_Two> deany, lol. I have no blanks. I just spent about 8 hours getting 8.10 installed on a sata system with hybridSLI
[20:29] <Seven_Six_Two> and I just want to make it safe.
[20:29] <psion> so I got dual monitors set up with it setup to use different x sessions, is there _any_ way to move a window from one screen to the other?
[20:29] <deany> hmmm
[20:30] <Scunizi_> How do I add one user to a different group at terminal?
[20:30] <deany> always nice to have a rewritable handy
[20:30] <deany> man usermod
[20:30] <jtaji> Scunizi_: adduser user group
[20:30] <Er2K> Scunizi_:  usermod -G <group> -a <user>
[20:31] <Scunizi_> which would be better to add a user to www-data
[20:31] <Scunizi_> both the same?
[20:31] <jtaji> the same
[20:31] <Er2K> same
[20:31] <jtaji> adduser is nicer as you see ;)
[20:31] <jtaji> to type
[20:31] <Seven_Six_Two> psion, I use that too, and I read about a way using xauth or xset or xhost or something like that. I never got it to work though
[20:31] <Scunizi_> cool
[20:31] <Flannel> Scunizi_: `adduser user group` is the easiest, and best way to not break something.
[20:31] <jtaji> if you forget the -a, you screw up your groups
[20:32] <jtaji> with usermod
[20:32] <Flannel> Scunizi_: If you use usermod and forget the -a, you remove all the other groups its in
[20:32] <psion> Seven_Six_Two: ah thanks, it just annoys me because certain windows will only pop up on one screen
[20:32] <jtaji> hehe
[20:32] <Er2K> very true...you took the words from my mouth jtaji
[20:32] <picca> just edit /etc/groups
[20:32] <Er2K> good excuse to backup your passwd/group file
[20:32] <Scunizi_> Thanks Flannel
[20:32] <Tonik> How do I figure out if a machine is Ubuntu Server or Desktop?
[20:32] <deany> uname -r
[20:33] <Tonik> 2.6.15-52-686, and what does that tell me?
[20:33] <picca> uname -a
[20:33] <deany> hmmm
[20:33] <russia213> Can I get help with GRUB? I get error 15 file not found http://paste.ubuntu.com/115410/
[20:33] <deany> thought it would say server kernel
[20:33] <ad1> hi all
[20:33] <Flannel> Tonik: They're not exactly different.  You can use uname like deany said to determine the kernel, but that won't tell you much anyway (you can have either kernel on either).  You can also check to see if X is installed
[20:33] <deany> guess its not then
[20:33] <whatev> zash: how can i make this an alias: apt-get source $(dpkg -S $(which top) | cut -d: -f1)   and have the part where it says 'top' be an argument variable? so i can just type: "aliasname blah" to automatically run: apt-get source $(dpkg -S $(which blah) | cut -d: -f1)
[20:33] <jtaji> Tonik: or check if ubuntu-desktop is installed
[20:34] <Flannel> Tonik: That means you're running Dapper, and it's likely a desktop machine.
[20:34] <jtaji> Tonik: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[20:34] <Tonik> Flannel: X is installed, but I may have installed it on top of a server edittion  :)_
[20:34] <Tonik> the real question is, does it matter what .iso to use for upgrade to 8.04?
[20:34] <zash> whatev: i think thats to complex to build an alias for, you could try writing a small function
[20:34] <Er2K> Seven_Six_Two:  If you are (or plan to) use dd to also image NTFS partitions, use ntfsclone instead.  dd images of ntfs partitions will often not work if put on a drive of different geometry, use it on a leap year, anger god, get up on the wrong side of the bed, etc.
[20:34] <Flannel> Tonik: Indeed.  There isn't really a hard fast way to tell, because they're not different.
[20:34] <ad1> I have a question for anyone using ubuntu hardy - friefox 3.0.5 and have laptop with a touchpad....
[20:34] <Flannel> Tonik: Use the alternate CD
[20:34] <whatev> zash where would the function go, in my bashrc?
[20:34] <russia213> Can I get help with GRUB? I get error 15 file not found http://paste.ubuntu.com/115410/
[20:34] <Tonik> Flannel: alternate can also be server and desktop, right?
[20:35] <deany> lsb_release -a
[20:35] <zash> whatev: yes
[20:35] <deany> maybe
[20:35] <Confetti> back for some clarification: to boot the live cd in 640*480, i have to set the boot option manually?
[20:35] <whatev> thanks
[20:35] <Seveas> ad1, if you actually ask the question, someone might even answer it :)
[20:35] <hlfshell> help! my ubuntu laptop which worked perfectly yesterday morning now can't start an xserver. I have no clue how to fix this  one...
[20:35] <hlfshell> over my head...
[20:35] <Flannel> Tonik: It can install a desktop box with a GUI, or a CLI-only box, yes.  But it's not the same as the "server" flavor, which has a separate kernel
[20:35] <psion> is there anyway to recurse with sftp in it's native form?
[20:35] <micael> ola
[20:35] <ad1> how can i use horizontall scroll bar in touchpad as a back/forward button in firefox?
[20:35] <tmarty> MY connection is wireless on this laptop. Firestarter and ifconfig has it as eth1. Im trying to connect xbox to my computer to get on xbox live.
[20:36] <micael> fala fi
[20:36] <tmarty> By ethernet cable to my laptop from xbox. But its not connecting.
[20:36] <ad1> it's my favorite trick in ubuntu
[20:36] <Flannel> Tonik: But the alternate CD has the most packages on it, and it'll result in you needing to download fewer from the internet during install.  Of course, you also will have updates after you upgrade, so if you're just using a CD to save on bandwidth, I say just go with the straight internet upgrade.
[20:36] <Seveas> psion, I believe not, but try lftp instead (it supports sftp)
[20:36] <psion> Seveas: thanks
[20:36] <ad1> going back and forward in firefox using the horizontall scroll bar of my touchpad
[20:37] <hlfshell> anyone have any clue why X won't start for me?
[20:37] <micael> tudo bem
[20:37] <tmarty> anyone? help me please
[20:37] <Seveas> hlfshell, the phase of the moon :)
[20:37] <Flannel> !br | micael
[20:37] <ad1> in hardy 8.04.1 i used to modify this line in firefox
[20:37] <Tonik> Flannel: I'm just using a CD to save on traffic , and I have ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso and ubuntu-8.04-server-i386.iso
[20:37] <picca> hlfshell, my car won
[20:37] <hlfshell> ?????????
[20:38] <Tonik> Flannel: so whatever I use it shouldn't hurt anything, just affect the amount of stuff it downloads?
[20:38] <ad1> seveas | question served..:)
[20:38] <Flannel> Tonik: You need the alternate CD.  Desktop can't be used to upgrade.  However, consider this:  You're going to download the 700MB alternate CD to save on about 500MB worth of packages (which you'll then need to upgrade anyway, since 8.04.2 was released a few weeks ago)
[20:38] <russia213> Can I get help with GRUB? I get error 15 file not found http://paste.ubuntu.com/115410/
[20:38] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | hlfshell
[20:38] <DanaG> my issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600
[20:38] <Seveas> ad1, if I had an answer for you, I'd give it. Unfortunately, I don't :)
[20:38] <DanaG> Note that it's true for Intrepid for me, too.
[20:38] <Confetti> how do i boot into terminal?
[20:39] <micael>
[20:39] <micael> Hello everybody
[20:39] <ad1> seveas | thanks anyway
[20:39] <psion> Confetti: find a way to disable gdm
[20:39] <hmw> Does anybody know, how to get rid of trolls?
[20:39] <hlfshell> my xserver crashes on bootup - running X or startx returns "saw signal 11 server aborting". What can I do to fix this?
[20:39] <shishio> hi, im using ubuntu 8.10 and im on a router... how can i check my LAN ip address?
[20:39] <Flannel> Tonik: Actually, you only have 8.04, so those packages are even older.  I honestly would just say do a straight upgrade from the internet.  Those packages are almost a year old
[20:39] <Tonik> Flannel: I see. Thanks
[20:39] <elhoir> shishio - ifconfig
[20:39] <ad1> ok is anyone here using this trick ?
[20:39] <shishio> elhoir ok ty
[20:40] <ad1> the trick is: using horizontal scroll bar in touchpad as back/forward button in firefox
[20:40] <Pricey> hmw: check out http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml This isn't really the channel thoguh.
[20:41] <ad1> I dont think i made a discovery... im just looking for guys who allready know it
[20:41] <ad1> anyone?
[20:41] <matrix> hey is there any  tool program to burn a file movie.dvdrip.xvid.avi to a dvd, when i burn i burn in gnome as data dvd and when i play it on my dvd player it shows file search index .avi it does not burn as DVD what am i doing wrong
[20:41] <elhoir> hi all, im having troubles with fglrx..... can anyone help me?
[20:41] <leandro> Hi. I have a Pentium 4 Presscott machine. I suspect that thermal throttling is active. How can I monitor if thermal throttling is being activated?
[20:42] <leandro> Hi. I have a Pentium 4 Presscott machine. I suspect that thermal throttling is active. How can I monitor if thermal throttling is being activated?
[20:42] <psion> does anyone know how to bind commands to keys in gnome beyond the ones availible in the key bindings interface?
[20:42] <zash> matrix: you have to convert it to dvd format or get a dvd-player that does .avi files
[20:42] <infotek411> does anyone know of functional stock ticker for ubuntu
[20:42] <Seveas> psion, dig through gconf-editor to find them
[20:42] <psion> ok
[20:43] <Seveas> infotek411, there's no such thing as functional stock nowadays ;)
[20:43] <matrix> my dvd plays .avi files but what do i need to make this movie to be like a dvd
[20:43] <leandro> sorry about the duplicated message
[20:43] <Tonik> what's the safest way to do a remote distribution upgrade?  ssh + (detached) screen?
[20:43] <matrix> why to conver it the file is allready dvd
[20:43] <matrix> movie.dvdrip.xvid.avi this is how the files look like
[20:43] <^cheeky> hi, i was playing music all night, and when i woke up , its making all this wierd nosies from from my speakers.. usually if i reboot it should stop. but is there away i can stop it without a reboot ? and besides i ran a ps aux | grep rhythm and killed it but still the noise is on
[20:43] <russia213> Can I get help with GRUB? I get error 15 file not found http://paste.ubuntu.com/115410/
[20:44] <Seveas> Tonik, yeah, that'll do it. It's how I upgrade servers (often even forgetting about the screen part)
[20:44] <zash> matrix: .avi = Audio Video Interleave, a container format. DVD uses another format
[20:44] <Er2K> I'm looking, russia...no promises
[20:44] <matrix> zash: so i need to convert this
[20:44] <matrix> how
[20:44] <Seveas> ^cheeky, try killing/restarting bugaudio, err, pulseaudio
[20:45] <arthus> ssh is taking me an ungodly amount of time to login
[20:45] <arthus> any idea what it could be?
[20:45] <^cheeky> pkill pulseaudio ?
[20:45] <Seveas> arthus, reverse dns for the ip you're connecting from failing/timing out
[20:45] <CyberGabber> leandro: Maybe you can install the 'lm-sensors'-package to  () to
[20:45] <Er2K> russia213: What type of fs is root?  You get the error before/in-lieu of the menu?
[20:46] <zigovr> hi all, I'm trying libvirt with virt-manager, it's nice, but I can't seem to be able to shut down my VM, anyone experienced this problem ?
[20:46] <CyberGabber> leandro: Its utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors
[20:46] <arthus> Seveas: sorry, I don't understand that
[20:46] <russia213> Er2K: I get it after selecting to boot the generic Kernel
[20:46] <Tonik> Seveas: so doing it in screen works?   It shouldn't screw up when screen itself is being updated?
[20:47] <Seveas> Tonik, correct
[20:47] <squarebracket> how do i chown files on a drive that's auto-mounted?
[20:47] <Tonik> Seveas: thanks
[20:47] <squarebracket> or set a user/group to be able to read it
[20:47] <abstortedminds> my ubuntu takes up the whole HD currently, I want to make a 20 gig XP partition so I can play a game, how can I do this without trashing ubuntu (grub etc)
[20:47] <squarebracket> err, write
[20:47] <wathek> hello all
[20:47] <squarebracket> !auto-mount
[20:47] <whatev> does ubuntu have anything like launchy or quicksilver?
[20:48] <wathek> I got Ubuntu hardy and I've a prob with the install of virtualbox
[20:48] <clouder`grr> whatev: try gnome-do
[20:48] <pwincess> tell me a good player to open video files..
[20:48] <zash> whatev: gnome-do is awesome!
[20:48] <fosco_> whatev avant-window-navigator and many others
[20:48] <HarLeyNut> list
[20:48] <leandro> CyberGabber: I alread have lm-sensors. But there is no precise information about wich temperatrure activates thernak throttling
[20:48] <Er2K> russia213:  Just for S&G, make sure that /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic and /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic both exist and seem of sane size.
[20:48] <ortsvorsteher> pwincess: vlc
[20:48] <pupeno_> Does anybody know what picture kind of keywords are these: http://pastebin.ca/1330180?
[20:48] <Frijolie> anyone want to venture getting my USB hub to work?
[20:48] <wathek> when I do sudo /etc/init.d/vbox setup it says Makefile:143: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again. Arrêt.
[20:48] <hlfshell> my x server is throwing "Saw Signal 11. Server Aborting."
[20:48] <Frijolie> it's not self-powered and Intrepid isn't recoginzing any USB devices plugged in at the moment
[20:48] <hlfshell> what could be wrong?
[20:48] <whatev> zash and fosco_ great i'll try them
[20:48] <wathek> how ever I did install the linux-headers
[20:49] <pwincess> ortsvorsteher : I have vlc, but the file which I am trying to open isn't working in vlc. Any other recommendations ?
[20:49] <wathek> any help please ?
[20:49] <ortsvorsteher> pwincess: how does the filename ends? .???
[20:49] <Scunizi_> How do I list all the different groups available at terminal. Not necessarily tied to the user
[20:49] <HarLeyNut> list
[20:49] <Er2K> Frijolie:  Most usb kernel modules have a parameter for current limit muck.  No guarantees, but that *may* help you.
[20:49] <Er2K> Does the hub work on other machines or in the same machine on other osen?
[20:50] <squarebracket> is adding services to the plugdev group a dangerous thing?
[20:50] <pwincess> ortsvorsteher  .mpg format. it can play the file but I can't FF it.
[20:50] <russia213> Er2K: sda1 is an ntfs sdb is ext3 and /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic is 2.1mb and boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic is7.8mb
[20:50] <redvamp128> russia213:  I found something that may be a point in the right direction-- ignore the tittle -- read step6-8
[20:50] <Frijolie> Er2K, thanks for the answer..but how/what do you do to fix that--whatever it is
[20:50] <CyberGabber> leandro: I think that the trigger-values for your fans are set in your BIOS. ( min/max-values )
[20:51] <ortsvorsteher> pwincess: sorry, my vlc plays .mpg files without problems. may you try to reinstall it
[20:51] <Er2K> Frijolie:  After verifying the hub *can* work, figure out what usb module you are using
[20:51] <redvamp128> russia213:  also add  step 9
[20:51] <pwincess> ortsvorsteher : ok
[20:51] <redvamp128> russia213:  I think that may be what is missing--
[20:51] <Er2K> Frijolie:  grep hcd /cat/modules
[20:51] <Seven_Six_Two> I was going to try partimage, but the partition has to be unmounted. It's not on the ubuntu live cd either, and it's not in the repos...
[20:51] <russia213> redvamp128: what did you find?
[20:51] <pwincess> ortsvorsteher : any other good players?
[20:51] <ortsvorsteher> !media
[20:52] <ortsvorsteher> !media  | pwincess
[20:52] <Scunizi_> I installed vsftp.  on installation does the system automatically create an FTP user account? or group name?  How do I find it?
[20:52] <redvamp128> russia213:  SUCCESS - Breezy loaded on external USB drive ! - Ubuntu Forums <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811>
[20:52] <Frijolie> Er2K, grep: /cat/modules: No such file or directory
[20:52] <Seven_Six_Two> or at least they're not in the repos showing on the livecd. I got it installed just fine from my install
[20:52] <Er2K> Frijolie:  Also make sure you have ohci_hcd loaded if it's a usb2 adapter
[20:52] <Er2K> /proc/modules my bad, sorry
[20:52] <pwincess> !codecs
[20:52] <maodun> i accidentally deleted my mouse driver (appletouch.ko) - is there a place where i can redownload it?
[20:52] <HAppyKAmikaze> someone wants to help me to configure a LAN?
[20:52] <redvamp128> russia213:  ignore the tittle ( I know breezy is an earlier distro) but it does not hurt to double check these options are there.
[20:52] <thancbrxx> can someone help me with my Sony vaio vgn aw11m internal mic problem if someone can spent some time please help me thank you.
[20:52] <Seven_Six_Two> oh nevermind. I just had to enable another repo on the live cd
[20:53] <Seveas> maodun, apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r)
[20:53] <hmw> pwincess ortsvorsteher mplayer plays a lot of stuff, but is a console progeram. the mplaygui is simple, but ok
[20:53] <russia213> redvamp128: I gave up on the external HDD installation and just installed on my seecondary hard drive
[20:53] <arthus> Seveas: thanks, turning off dns reverse-lookup fixed my issue :)
[20:53] <ortsvorsteher> thx hmw
[20:53] <leandro> CyberGabber: Hmmm... I will check this. BTW, How do Ia know the accuracy of the lm-sensors read. Some people say that depending on the case, they are not too much reliabel.
[20:53] <Frijolie> Er2K, http://paste.ubuntu.com/115413/
[20:53] <Er2K> thancbrxx:  First place to check is your mixer settings.  I like alsamixer for interactive use and aumix for scripted, but there are dozens to choose from.
[20:53] <sagredo> hi, can someone PLEASE help me 'enable an ad-hoc connection' through a bash script, like the demo'r does here at 15 seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNQ6W_yUnII
[20:54] <Er2K> Frijolie: We might have some paydirt.  "sudo modprobe ohci_hcd" and see if things start lighting up.
[20:54] <russia213> Er2K: sda1 is an ntfs sdb is ext3 and /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic is 2.1mb and boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic is 7.8mb
[20:54] <Seveas> ikonia, why are you unbanning trolls?
[20:54] <ikonia> Seveas: are they known ?
[20:55] <Seveas> lunitik and mudkips most definitely. javid also rings a bell
[20:55] <squarebracket> is adding services to the plugdev group a dangerous thing?
[20:55] <CyberGabber> leandro: Did you also install 'sensord'? Is is for realtime sensortool for temperature, voltage, and fan speed sensors
[20:55] <maodun> Seveas: thank you very much, that worked
[20:56] <quibbler> russia213: did this happen after an kernel update?
[20:56] <Er2K> hmmmmm, russia, so nothing odd there.....    does update-grub produce any nastygrams?
[20:56] <Frijolie> Er2K, nope...
[20:56] <sagredo> Seveas: can you tell me what might be in the contects of this bash script, run at 15 seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNQ6W_yUnII
[20:56] <Frijolie> Er2K, i've got a thumb drive plugged in right now and there's no lights, :(
[20:56] <Seveas> sagredo, I have no flash on this box
[20:57] <Frijolie> Er2K, but the USB hub has always had a power indicator light on
[20:57] <sagredo> Seveas: thanks anyway
[20:57] <Er2K> Frijolie:  ohci_hcd appears in "grep hcd /proc/modules" though?
[20:57] <leandro> CyberGabber: Yes, I can read the measures. But for exemple, some gyu that display this measures (like ksensors, for example) allow you to calobrate the mneasures
[20:57] <arpad> any ideas why the nvidia drivers would all fail with two adapters on 8.04? using envyng the legacy and new-legacy drivers both give me rminitadapter failed and the latest driver segfaults xorg. the nvidia installer causes xorg to segfault
[20:57] <Frijolie> Er2K, but to make sure, it has a power cable which plugs in to a USB port on my lappy
[20:57] <russia213> Quibbler: No, I haven't been able to boot Ubuntu once
[20:58] <arpad> i had this same setup working fine in 8.10 so i'm certain it isn't a hardware issue
[20:58] <Renfield> I think my problem is due to the fact that the Ubuntu ISO image is 699, but my CD-Rs clearly say that they are 650Mb. Is there a way for me to get a Ubuntu boot disk that can fit on a "regular" CD-R?
[20:59] <Er2K> russia213:  I would do a "update-initramfs -cv && update-grub -y" as root....grasping at straws though
[20:59] <Flannel> Renfield: You can use the minimal CD, or another option would be the server CD (which you then install the desktop on later)
[21:00] <Frijolie> Er2K, "usbcore 149360 6 ohci_hcd,uvcvideo,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd, Live 0xf88cb000", yes it does
[21:00] <Flannel> Renfield: Minimal CD will get you a full fledged desktop during the install (although it'll also need an internet connection while installing)
[21:00] <Er2K> Frijolie: Does 'lsusb' produce anything interesting?
[21:00] <Renfield> Flannel: Hmm, I'm not seeing a minimal CD on this one mirror.
[21:00] <russia213> Er2K: Could you help me with that?
[21:00] <Renfield> Flannel: It's not mid-lpia, is it?
[21:01] <quibbler> russia213: try editing the first line when grub comes up by pressing e and change hd1,0 to hd1,1 then boot if that doeswork try hd1,2 or hd 1,3 etc
[21:01] <rokumanxes> Hey everybody.  I've had ubuntu before, but I've always had it alongside Vista because I never could get the wireless in my laptop to work too great with ubuntu.  Right now I don't have a good internet connection, and I'm sort of freeloading off my neighbors, so...  how can I get it all so that I'm sure it will work?
[21:01] <Er2K> russia213:  get booted into it, "sudo bash" to get a root shell, then those commands.
[21:01] <Flannel> !minimal  | Renfield
[21:01] <Er2K> and what quibbler said...never thought about the drive ordering changing between the bios and linuxland
[21:01] <Frijolie> Er2K, "Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub" if that's any help
[21:01] <quibbler> russia213: does not work*
[21:01] <Renfield> Flannel: Thanks.
[21:01] <Frijolie> Er2K, along with other USB 1.1 root hubs
[21:03] <sagredo> hi, can someone PLEASE help me 'enable an ad-hoc connection' through a bash script, like the demo'r does here at 15 seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNQ6W_yUnII
[21:05] <russia213> Er2K: I can't do that because I'm on liveCD
[21:05] <abstortedminds> If I Choose Pre-Released Updates, can I reverse any updates I made back to a more stable version afterwards?>
[21:05] <centaur5> Installing Intrepid via CD will complete on my system but Grub won't actually boot it just says "GRUB loading, please wait" but no error message. Upgrading from Hardy to Intrepid via apt-get caused Intrepid to boot fine but can't install with the CD.  I'm running a hardware raid card and wonder if the new raid support in Intrepid is the reason?
[21:05] <jose> hello
[21:06] <Seveas> abstortedminds, yes-ish. It's possible, but needs lots of manual fiddling
[21:06] <paxl> I've got a problem with the 8.10 install of ubuntu
[21:06] <abstortedminds> ah :\
[21:06] <whatev> yay gnome-do rocks
[21:06] <Renfield> Flannel: Is it also possible to do stuff with the minimal CD? I.E, can I get a root prompt? I need to copy some stuff off of the hard drive onto another computer on my network before installing.
[21:08] <Renfield> Hmm, where do I get the MD5 sum of the mini.iso?
[21:08] <pronto> shouldnt the place where you downloaded it tell you
[21:08] <Flannel> Renfield: It should be possible, yes.  Mini.iso is just the alternate without any packages on it.
[21:09] <jose> friend's I have a problem to transfer mp3 to mi mp3 player in amarok 2
[21:09] <[rip]oink> o:
[21:09] <russia213> Er2K: I can't use those commands because I'm on live CD
[21:09] <[rip]oink> russia213 what commands?
[21:09] <[rip]oink> i'm here what's the problem?
[21:09] <Frijolie> Er2K, I think I got it.
[21:10] <MBC> How do you get administrator privileges?
[21:10] <usser> MBC, sudo
[21:10] <[rip]oink> sudo su -
[21:10] <[rip]oink> or in the alt+f2 use gksu
[21:10] <Er2K> russia213:  You could chroot into your 'real' install from the bootcd.
[21:10] <Frijolie> Er2K, the hub requires 1 USB connection for power, and another for itself. Then you can begin plugging in USB devices to it. My thumb drive is mounted and is showing up on my desktop as an icon
[21:10] <usser> [rip]oink, sudo -i if you want permanent prompt
[21:10]  * [rip]oink agrees with Er2K
[21:10] <russia213> [rip]oink: "(08:59:31 PM) Er2K: russia213:  I would do a "update-initramfs -cv && update-grub -y" as root....grasping at straws though"
[21:10] <Er2K> Frijolie:  Schweet.
[21:10] <MBC> "sudo" ?
[21:10] <russia213> Er2K: How would I do that?
[21:11] <Frijolie> Er2K, is that normal? 1 USB connection for power and another for connectivity?
[21:11] <MBC> usser what do you mean by "sudo"?
[21:11] <quibbler> russia213: reboot and take the cd out and get to the grub menu and then edit the menu and try to boot from and partition like hd1,1  etc
[21:11] <[rip]oink> oo sweet one there usser
[21:11] <whatev> what does sudo su - do?
[21:11] <[rip]oink> cant believe
[21:11] <wunnymush> does "sudo apt-get update" install the updates to?
[21:11] <Er2K> russia213: become root, mount your root somewhere, e.g. "mkdir /media/root && mount /dev/sdb1 /media/root" then "chroot /media/root"
[21:11] <[rip]oink> prevents what u do as root being written to your normal user files
[21:12] <[rip]oink> can mess up permissions
[21:12] <Er2K> and try quibbler's suggestion, he might be smoking the paydirt.
[21:12] <usser> MBC, sudo lets you elevate your priviliges from command line, you would use sudo to run a command with administrative priviliges ie sudo gedit
[21:12] <mrwes> o/
[21:12] <Tonik> пусть вас зохавает аццкий сотона
[21:12] <jrib> !apt > wunnymush
[21:12] <[rip]oink> Er2K dont u need to chroot the proc and other?
[21:12] <[rip]oink> Tonik english in here
[21:12] <usser> !ru
[21:12] <MBC> usser: How?
[21:12] <handala> i have a very slow connection and i wanna download all the updates for ubuntu 8.10, how can i do it from a windows box and have ubuntu install it on its own??
[21:13] <wunnymush> where's your private message, ubotto?
[21:13] <Er2K> rip: sometimes /dev, but I don't think anything he is doing will require proc
[21:13] <whatev> how do you guys know so much do you just sit around and read man pages all day? :p
[21:13] <jrib> whatev: use « sudo -i » instead.  Both give you a permanent sudo shell of sorts
[21:13] <shawnmstout> mbc think of sudo is like running windows as an administrator
[21:13] <[rip]oink> handala not really..
[21:13] <dayo_> wunnymush: it's a bot.
[21:13] <MoLoot> whatev, and big thick text books and lots of google
[21:13] <Er2K> his stuff will probably show up from the static /dev entries, otherwise he can mount /dev once he's in lalaland
[21:13] <MBC> OK how
[21:13] <usser> MBC, i dont understand? through magic. What do you want to know?
[21:13] <wunnymush> ok, dayo_
[21:13] <dayo_> wunnymush: it sent you a private msg
[21:13] <[rip]oink> handala you wanna use a winbox thats on a faster connection without taking your computer there?
[21:13] <handala> [rip]oink, so its impossible
[21:13] <wunnymush> aha, tnx
[21:13] <MoLoot> whatev, plus computers are fun when you don't have to deal with crappy windows and having to pay for darn near anything
[21:13] <MBC> How do you do "suso"
[21:13] <[rip]oink> am i getting it right?
[21:14] <handala> [rip]oink, exactly
[21:14] <MBC> *sudo
[21:14] <fran69> anybody knows how to turn off the graphic interface in ubuntu?
[21:14] <[rip]oink> handala can you just take your hard drive with you?
[21:14] <russia213> Er2K: I used those commands...nothing happened
[21:14] <dayo_> MBC: what are you trying to do?
[21:14] <[rip]oink> whats your hardware and the other machine's hardware
[21:14] <Er2K> russia213:  No error messages, no output, ?
[21:14] <[rip]oink> you might be able to just boot from your disk ;)
[21:14] <etko_> hey guys how can i disable ipv6?
[21:14] <russia213> Er2K: none
[21:15] <MBC> dayo_: run something as administrator or as "sudo"
[21:15] <[rip]oink> handala is that an option?
[21:15] <stdin> MBC: it's a console command, if you want to launch a GUI app with administrator privileges press Alt-F2 and put "gksudo" before the application name
[21:15] <fran69>  anybody knows how to turn off the graphic interface in ubuntu?
[21:15] <handala> [rip]oink, i'm planning to download everything from a netcafe, dont think the owner gona like me booting a diffrent os
[21:15] <[rip]oink> fran69
[21:15] <jrib> fran69: for what purpose?
[21:15] <whatev> i dont get what the difference is between apropos and whatis
[21:15] <quibbler> Er2K: he should have gotten an error message probably not 15 but something else
[21:15] <[rip]oink> ctrl+alt+f2 sends you to tty2
[21:15] <Er2K> russia213:  which part did nothing?  I don't know what stage you are at.
[21:15] <eut> fran69, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:15] <usser> MBC, open  terminal and type sudo command
[21:15] <handala> [rip]oink, cant i just build a list of all the packages to download
[21:15] <[rip]oink> login as your user and do:
[21:15] <shawnmstout> sudo = administrator or in linux terms its called root
[21:15] <dayo_> MBC: what are u trying to run? usually, it's sudo <name of command/application>
[21:15] <fran69> it is heavy for may pc
[21:15] <[rip]oink> what eut said
[21:16] <Er2K> russia213:  if there was no response to the chroot stuff....  that is expected.
[21:16] <[rip]oink> but do it from the tty because it can freeze up sometimes otherwise
[21:16] <Er2K> do an ls / and see if you are in your real drive
[21:16] <stdin> don't use sudo with GUI applications, use gksu/gksudo
[21:16] <dereine> how can i install php xml?
[21:16] <[rip]oink> fran69 you might try the xubuntu then? its very good for lower hardware
[21:16] <russia213> Er2K: I entered sudo bash then entered your commands none of them returned any output
[21:16] <[rip]oink> fran69 what cpu/ram/vid/etc do you have?
[21:16] <shawnmstout> sudo isnt a command the command comes after, sudo just makes it run as administrator
[21:16] <shawnmstout> example
[21:16] <handala> [rip]oink, are u talking to me
[21:17] <jrib> whatev: run « whatis whatis » and « whatis apropos » to see
[21:17] <shawnmstout> apt-get install whatever is the command
[21:17] <russia213> Er2K: I'm talking about the chroot stuff
[21:17] <Er2K> russia: ok, that's what is expected
[21:17] <[rip]oink> handala yes i was in the moving hard drive bit
[21:17] <Er2K> do an ls / and see if you are on your drive
[21:17] <shawnmstout> whatever being the name of the file
[21:17] <[rip]oink> handala what hardware is your machine, and what hardware is the winbox ?
[21:17] <dereine> anyone?
[21:17] <eut> shawnmstout, sudo is a package in the repositories too :P
[21:17] <MBC> I am tring to run the Virtua;l box softwere
[21:17] <[rip]oink> MBC
[21:17] <shawnmstout> now sudo apt-get install whatever makes it run as root
[21:18] <MBC> yes
[21:18] <[rip]oink> make sure to add your user to the vboxuser or w/e group it is
[21:18] <[rip]oink> then log out and in
[21:18] <jrib> MBC: you don't need sudo to run virtual box.  Have you installed virtual box yet?
[21:18] <shawnmstout> eut, yes but lets keep it basic for him
[21:18] <[rip]oink> may need to restart
[21:18] <dayo_> MBC: why do u need to run vbox as root?
[21:18] <russia213> Er2K: "bin   cdrom  etc   initrd.img  media  opt   rofs  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuz  boot  dev    home  lib mnt    proc  root  srv   tmp  var"
[21:18] <handala> [rip]oink, same hardware
[21:18] <[rip]oink> dayo_ a lot of default installs dont work quite rite untill the group bit is done manually
[21:18] <Suburban_Ed> Is PartedMagic just another way to use Gparted or is there more to it?
[21:18] <Er2K> russia: is that sdb or not?  "ls /home" do you see *YOUR* home directory?
[21:18] <[rip]oink> handala then just put your hard drive in the windows machine and update
[21:19] <[rip]oink> ^_^
[21:19] <MBC> I am running ubuntu in virtualbox and it said in the black window
[21:19] <[rip]oink> handala linux is very forgiving when changing hardware in my experience
[21:19] <jrib> !who | MBC
[21:19] <ImSad> I'm trying to install steam using WINE, and it needs to be installed to C:\Program Files\Steam\ , but when I try to install it says "Cannot install to root directory". Can anyone help?
[21:19] <[rip]oink> MBC o:
[21:19] <[rip]oink> then that's sudo
[21:19] <[rip]oink> what are you trying to do with the ubuntu console installation?
[21:19] <Suburban_Ed> I'm in Parted Magic now because Gparted won't work, but all I can find is Gparted Partition Editor again
[21:19] <shawnmstout> imsad, wine is extremely buggy
[21:19] <ImSad> mhm
[21:19] <[rip]oink> ImSad try running winecfg first
[21:20] <russia213> Er2K: Yes it is my home
[21:20] <[rip]oink> check what stream needs
[21:20] <ImSad> I tired that.
[21:20] <ImSad> tried*
[21:20] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: what do you mean by "won't work"?
[21:20] <Er2K> ok, russia...this is good.  do the other commands now
[21:20] <shawnmstout> i believe it rights to the registry which linux has no registry
[21:20] <[rip]oink> then look on the ubuntuforums.org site for help because there are a lot of gamers there
[21:20] <shawnmstout> which might cause the problem
[21:20] <[rip]oink> if you can find a thread that looks promissing we can explain anything you dont understand
[21:20] <[rip]oink> or at least try to ;)
[21:20] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: It can't see my current partitions. Shows both of my drives as "unallocated"
[21:20] <ImSad> Okay, I've been googling for a while, but I'll keep searching for a bit.
[21:21] <[rip]oink> youve tried a bit?
[21:21] <Er2K> ImSad: Run winecfg, make sure C: drive is setup, then visit it in a shell and make sure "Program Files" is there and writable by you, etc.
[21:21] <[rip]oink> ok i'll break out the google then
[21:21] <shawnmstout> i havent had much luck with wine
[21:21] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: how did you create the current partitions?
  <[rip]oink> <jrib> <stdin> <dayo_> :I am running ubuntu in virtualbox and it said in the black window this program must be run with administrator privileges.
[21:21] <shawnmstout> but ill admit i havent spent alot of time on it either
[21:21] <shawnmstout> i run windows and separate ubuntu boxes
[21:21] <shawnmstout> or a dual boot
[21:21] <[rip]oink> should be in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/ blah
[21:21] <[rip]oink> or something lik,e that
[21:22] <shawnmstout> no
[21:22]  * Er2K uses wine daily....but does not like it.  I run TSE (http://www.semware.com) in it.  I've finally gotten it working reasonably well, but wine leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
[21:22] <shawnmstout> well let me check
[21:22] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: I created them when I first built my PC. I can't even recall how I did it.
[21:22] <shawnmstout> 1 se
[21:22] <shawnmstout> sec
[21:22] <Suburban_Ed> I've been an XP user the whole time.
  <[rip]oink> <jrib> <stdin> <dayo_> : that is the Vbox softwhere
[21:22] <dayo_> !wubi | MBC
[21:22] <russia213> Er2K: "update-initramfs is disabled since running on a live CD"
[21:22] <whatev> vmware Er2K
[21:22] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: if you can't remember, isn't it likely that you used the Windows tools to create them?
[21:22] <shawnmstout> .       /home/username/.wine/drive_c
[21:23] <shawnmstout> is where mine is located at
[21:23] <dayo_> MBC: quote the nicks without the pointy brackets
[21:23] <yuri_> hi, i want to buy an old beat up blackberry and use it as a modem for my laptop. any comments?
[21:23] <Frijolie> what file system should I partition an external HDD so both Windows and Linux can read/write to it?
[21:24] <Frijolie> does NTFS work?
[21:24] <dayo_> MBC: and i think u're probably in need of admin in *Windows* not ubuntu, by the sounds of it
[21:24] <Er2K> yuri: I do that!  Make sure the device has OS4.5.  Bluetooth will work out-of-the-box purdy much, usb will need barry or xmblackberry to make ppp work
[21:24] <shawnmstout> fri, in what aspect?
[21:24] <soundray> Frijolie: NTFS works, but is proprietary
[21:24] <quibbler> Frijolie: yes
[21:24] <dayo_> yuri_: no comment at this point. next question
[21:24] <yuri_> Frijolie: yes, ntfs works for both but only windows can repair the partition
[21:24] <shawnmstout> there is a tool that you can use for ntfs in ubuntu
[21:24] <[rip]oink> shawnmstout to show / as first char in xchat use double /: //omg shows as /omg
[21:24] <soundray> Frijolie: you can use ext3, but then you have to download an extra tool for Windows (e.g. ext2fsd)
[21:24] <yuri_> Er2K: is this reliabale or an ugly hack?
[21:24] <[rip]oink> shawnmstout not sure for irssi tho; but mirc is ctrl+enter iirc
[21:25] <Er2K> Frijolie:  I've had issues with ntfs writes from linux, and issues with the ext2 driver for windows.  I would try fat32 even...yes, that's ugly
[21:25] <Frijolie> it will be used for external back-ups (i.e. music, photos, etc)
[21:25] <Frijolie> Er2K, I thought about FAT32 but I have some larger movies wich are > 4GB
[21:25] <Er2K> yuri: Over bluetooth is perfect and easy, barry crashes on all of my machines, xmblackberry works okay, but is a gui app and takes some doing to script it
[21:25] <shubbar> I am doing a fresh installation of 8.04, and have the follwing option for preparing the disk:
[21:26] <kotan> bonsoir, premier fois.
[21:26] <shady> hello
[21:26] <rods> So, I'm not sure how to uninstall launchy since it doesn't show up in Synaptic Package Manager or in Add/Remove. I much prefer Gnome Do, but before I put that in I need to get rid of Launchy. Any ideas?
[21:26] <shubbar> make new partition for 8.04; or Guided - use entire disk ; or Manual. Which one should i choose?
[21:26] <soundray> Frijolie: I suggest you back up everything with Linux, even Windows data. Then you can use the best file system for large files and large contiguous reads and writes, which is currently XFS.
[21:26] <bluerayq> what application can stop ubuntu from looking like win 3.1?
[21:26] <quibbler> Frijolie: i have 2 external drives for music movies and backups both ntfs and no problems
[21:27] <burgua> Help please. I decided create partition for /tmp (1Gb). Will I have some troubles later?
[21:27] <Cpudan80> How do I customize the visual effects in 8.10 ?
[21:27] <Cpudan80> I have them set to "normal"
[21:27] <Cpudan80> But is there some thing I can use to customize what normal is exactly?
[21:27] <[rip]oink> burgua if you make seperate partition for temp its got to be larger than the largest thing it might need
[21:27] <MBC> dayo_ : I don't think
[21:27] <Frijolie> so, sounds like it's a matter of personal preference
[21:27] <MBC> soeey
[21:27] <Er2K> bluerayq: switch to a different gtk theme....you can make it look like openwindows or vista or osx or whatever
[21:27] <[rip]oink> so if you encode dvd9's then you might need 20GB
[21:27] <MBC> *sorry
[21:27] <soundray> Frijolie: no
[21:27] <oneeyedelf1> I don't like xfs, seems easily corrupted
[21:27] <Frijolie> i was going to go for ext3 but that would count out Windows
[21:27] <kotan> Graag hulp bij opwaarderen 7.10 >8.10
[21:28] <[rip]oink> alternatively you can configure any application that uses that much /tmp to use another folder somewhere else most of the time
[21:28] <Frijolie> soundray, I've never used XFS
[21:28] <oneeyedelf1> Frijolie: you can mount ext3 with windows
[21:28] <wunnymush> i like the function that force me password question, when i use NTFS in Ubuntu 8.10
[21:28] <rods> So, I'm not sure how to uninstall launchy since it doesn't show up in Synaptic Package Manager or in Add/Remove. I much prefer Gnome Do, but before I put that in I need to get rid of Launchy. Any ideas?
[21:28] <soundray> Frijolie: it's a matter of technical limitations. ext3 is okay under Windows with ext2fsd
[21:28] <Fractured> ntfs ftw!
[21:28] <[rip]oink> Frijolie actually i can access ext2|3 just fine from winblowz
[21:28] <shawnmstout> found it
[21:28] <[rip]oink> http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
[21:28] <[rip]oink> http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html @ Frijolie
[21:28] <MBC> Can any give me a good link that tells me how to install the VBOXADDITIONS softwere?
[21:28] <shawnmstout> ntfs-config
[21:29] <shawnmstout> is the ntfs program u need
[21:29] <[rip]oink> shawnmstout i think windows support for ext3 is better than linux's support for ntfs
[21:29] <[rip]oink> far too often charactors in windows files/folders when loaded in linux kills the structure
[21:29] <bluerayq> I know vista is a piece of crap but  it looks 10 times better than ubuntu. what app greatly improves ubuntu visually?
[21:29] <Sylphid> Frijolie, i hannot say that i have used it but you could try exfat
[21:29] <[rip]oink> creates files that cannot be removed without another format
[21:29] <Er2K> soundray:  I would disagree.  I've been down this road.  The windows ext* driver can read files about 95% of the time.....ditto the ntfs driver for linux....both are only about 99% reliable, which is a scarily low number for a filesystem!!!!!
[21:30] <oneeyedelf1> bluerayq: KDE
[21:30] <wunnymush> i don't find my ext3 partition, when i'm booting in windows
[21:30] <[rip]oink> bluerayq: google
[21:30] <_VIM_> !themes | bluerayq
[21:30] <[rip]oink> wunnymush http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
[21:30] <audioHack> I've never had issues with ntfs.3g
[21:30] <[rip]oink> btw for gnome: package gnome-art
[21:30] <wunnymush> [rip]oink, ok
[21:31] <[rip]oink> make sure all of compiz-fusion stuff is working then get down in the ocnfigs bluerayq
[21:31] <[rip]oink> wunnymush :P
[21:31] <Renfield> How do I mount the filesystem from my hard drive at the shell prompt of the minimal CD? I see no /dev/hda nor /dev/sda. It's just an 80gig Seagate IDE drive.
[21:31] <gsp2009> hello folks. Can someone tell me where to learn about filesharing in ubuntu (between two ubuntu machines that is). Everything I find is about samba.
[21:31] <shady> hi
[21:31] <shady>  what is this
[21:31] <shady> ??
[21:31] <shady> i am new
[21:32] <Er2K> yuri_: I use a curve 8320 on t-mobile with my laptop and my wife's dellintosh.  I have a dell latitude 131L, ubuntu 8.10.  Have done it under 32 and 64 bit with identical successes and failures.  ymmv.
[21:32] <Frijolie> I'm still at a loss here...
[21:32] <_VIM_> !welcome | shady
[21:32] <Frijolie> I've had each filesystem recommended to me
[21:32] <soundray> Er2K: okay, tell Frijolie about it... If it was my machine, I wouldn't consider anything other than ext3 or xfs, and only access them with Linux for backup and restore
[21:32] <shady> so here i can ask what i want live
[21:32] <audioHack> gsp2009: Windows File sharing is based on the "smb" protocol, The linux implementation of it is called Samba.
[21:33] <soundray> !ubuntu | shady
[21:33] <_VIM_> shady: as long as it's on topic for this channel yes
[21:33] <Er2K> soundray: You are preaching to the choir, my friend.  I was consolidating a tb or so of media from around the house onto the XFS partition on the media server.
[21:33] <Frijolie> soundray, I would be the one performing all the backups from my Linux lappy. My wife is the one that uses Windows and has some photos that would need to be backed up mostly
[21:33] <shady> so how can i go to a specific channel
[21:33] <Er2K> soundray: I eventually used the ntfs driver to get everything I could, then transferred the remaining files with the drive on a real windows machine
[21:33] <audioHack> XFS? You know, I've never really looked into it.  Was probably going to do 4 x 1TB in RAIDZ (ZFS) for my media server.
[21:33] <Frijolie> soundray, I guess I could just transfer the photos from her Windows lappy to my Linux comp and then backup/sync them from here
[21:34] <soundray> Frijolie: so why not backup the Windows data while you're booted into Linux?
[21:34] <dayo_> shady: /join #channelname
[21:34] <dffdgh>  Wspomozcie znalezc prace w Polsce bede bardzo wam wdzieczny                                             Mam Polski Indefikaciini numer emerytalny rachunek medyczna komisje Teraz mam otwarta
[21:34] <shubbar> if i use the entire disk, will it delete all files on it?
[21:34] <rods> If I install a program from a .deb package instead of from a repository, and then want to uninstall it, and it doesn't show up in add/remove or in synaptic package manager, what do I do?
[21:34] <soundray> Frijolie: oh, I see, you've got different machines
[21:34] <dayo_> shady: basically, same way u got here
[21:34] <Flannel> rods: It should show up in your package managers
[21:34] <gsp2009> audioHack, thanks. I have two 8.10 machines and I am trying to set shares up between them. I have no windows machines. My problem is that I am figure out the whole file permissions setup, and permanent links to shares. You know of a good tut?
[21:34] <dayo_> shubbar: yes
[21:34] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:34] <Er2K> audioHack:  XFS is the best for large files, and can be defragmented.  It's been a dream for my mythcluster, but I haven't used it long enough to recommend it as a root or general purpose fs.
[21:34] <quibbler> rods: look in synaptic
[21:34] <soundray> Frijolie: you could of course partition the backup drive and have both NTFS and ext3 on it
[21:34] <Frijolie> soundray, I'm trying to get her to convert over to the dark side...and replace XP with Intrepid
[21:35] <Suburban_Ed> HPFS/NTFS is not NTFS?
[21:35] <shubbar> dayo_, then safest to use another partition
[21:35] <Dante123> hi all, setting up a dell inspiron laptop for a former student for typical uses of email, web browser, some music, etc.  Any suggestions in terms of security (other than default) or antivirus/spyware is appreciated.  What additional software or changes would you recommend so that this should be a trouble free computer for this person?  Your help and advice is appreciated.
[21:35] <Frijolie> soundray, she just uses proprietary apps which require Window$ for her work
[21:35] <leonbrussels> gsp2009: You probably want to use samba, because its built right into ubuntu. Just right click a folder and click "Sharing Options"
[21:35] <shady> so what is the topic of this channel
[21:35] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:35] <Frijolie> soundray, that's too much to have multiple partitions and filesystems
[21:35] <audioHack> Er2K: I'll definitely look into it, thanks.  Espescially considering most of my HD movies are ~4-5GB mkv's.
[21:35] <usser> Dante123, dont give his account administrative permissions
[21:35] <dayo_> shubbar: u can resize or use the free space, if any/sufficient
[21:35] <audioHack> gsp2009: Give me a sec, I'll find you a nice tut.
[21:35] <usser> Dante123, thats about it :)
[21:35] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:36] <dayo_> shady: ubuntu
[21:36] <Frijolie> soundray, I think I'm just going to go ext3 and use that driver for Windows
[21:36] <soundray> Frijolie: have you considered a NAS box for backing up?
[21:36] <rods> quibbler: I'm not sure how to find it. I installed it from a .deb package, and as far as I can see its not showing up
[21:36] <Frijolie> soundray, yeah I was looking into that originally, but it was cost prohibitive
[21:36] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:36] <audioHack> ua: Most CPU's for a while have had SSE.
[21:36] <gsp2009> leonbrussels, ok thanks. Do you know if there is an easier way than manually editing fstab for links to shares across the network? Thanks audioHack.
[21:36] <MBC> Does anyone know where to get clear instruction on how to install the vboxadditions software on  ununtu
[21:36] <Frijolie> soundray, I'm using an external USB 2.0 HDD for now
[21:36] <shady> general ubuntu topics
[21:36] <audioHack> gsp2009: Do you use Gnome?
[21:36] <soundray> Frijolie: I found the Freecom offer reasonable
[21:36] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:36] <dayo_> shady: yep
[21:36] <quibbler> rods: system-administration-synaptic package manager search for your deb
[21:37] <Frijolie> soundray, "Freecom"?
[21:37] <audioHack> If so, you can create a bookmark on teh side, just like if you click "Documents" "Music", etc.
[21:37] <dayo_> shady: there's also #ubuntu-server. here are mostly desktop-related stuff
[21:37] <shubbar> dayo_, can i later merge the partitions?
[21:37] <gsp2009> audioHack, yes... and I am not too partial to nautilus.
[21:37] <russia213> Quibbler: trying to boot from another partition didn't work
[21:37] <dayo_> shubbar: what do u mean by merge?
[21:37] <dffdgh> -> Tommeke âîøåë â ubuntu
[21:37] <dffdgh> 	<- Tommeke îòñîåäèíèëñÿ (Îñâîáîæäåíèå Client)
[21:37] <dffdgh> 	-> redvamp128 âîøåë â ubuntu
[21:37] <dffdgh> 	usser	Dante123, dont äàþò åãî àäìèíèñòðàòèâíûå ðàçðåøåíèÿ ñ÷åòà
[21:37] <dffdgh> 23:35	dayo_	shubbar: u ìîæåò ïåðåîïðåäåëèòü ðàçìåð èëè èñïîëüçîâàòü ñâîáîäíóþ ïàìÿòü, åñëè any/sufficient
[21:37] <FloodBot1> dffdgh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:37] <dffdgh> 	àóäèîçàðóáêà	gsp2009: Äàéòå ìíå ñåêóíäó, ÿ íàéäó âàñ õîðîøåé ðàáîòîé.
[21:38] <quibbler> russia213: did you try different partitions?
[21:38] <soundray> Frijolie: Freecom FSG-3
[21:38] <dayo_> what the hell was that?
[21:38] <shady> thats really amazing
[21:38] <redvamp128> MBC:  Unless you are using the Ose -- should be simple -- open the VM you want to install it on .. then select install virtul additions
[21:38] <gsp2009> MBC, http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/09/22/install-virtualbox-2-guest-additions-in-ubuntu/
[21:38] <audioHack> Haha, yea.  Well, bookmarks are the easiest route I know of, though, assigning the mount in fstab is nice for it's consitatncy and well, not having to use a GUI.
[21:38] <leonbrussels> gsp2009: Select the "Add Bookmark" item from the Bookmarks menu while in the folder you want as a bookmark
[21:38] <russia213> Quibller: Yes
[21:38] <audioHack> I tend to just ssh into my media servers anyways.
[21:38] <rods> quibbler: that is synaptic package manager--its still not there
[21:38] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:38] <shady> every day i love ubuntu more than before
[21:38] <gsp2009> leonbrussels, thanks. I will have a look now.
[21:38] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:38] <quibbler> russia213: did you get different errors?
[21:39] <dffdgh> FloodBot1	dffdgh: Íå çàòîïëÿéòå, èñïîëüçóéòå http://paste.ubuntu.com äëÿ íàêëåèâàíèÿ, íå èñïîëüçóþò Ââîä â êà÷åñòâå ïóíêòóàöèè.
[21:39] <dffdgh> 	FloodBot1 óñòàíîâèë ðåæèì +z
[21:39] <dffdgh> 	FloodBot1 óñòàíîâèë ðåæèì +b %dffdgh!*@*
[21:39] <dffdgh> 	-> DkySven âîøåë â ubuntu
[21:39] <dffdgh> 	ïðèäèðà	russia213: âû ïðîáîâàëè ðàçëè÷íûå ðàçäåëåíèÿ?
[21:39] <FloodBot1> dffdgh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:39] <dffdgh> 	soundray	Frijolie: Freecom FSG-3
[21:39] <dayo_> shady: i've been having some pulse audio issues, lately, that have dampened my love lol
[21:39] <shubbar> dayo_, make the two parition back into one big partition
[21:39] <MBC> gsp2009: Thanks
[21:39] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:39] <Suburban_Ed> I don't understand why my Parted Magic Live CD only has the option to run Gparted.... Every where I look it seems like people are talking about them as totally separate entities
[21:39] <quibbler> rods: what did you install?
[21:39] <soundray> shady: do you have a question about ubuntu? If you just want to chat, there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:39] <dayo_> shubbar: what's on your partitions?
[21:39] <rods> quibbler: launchy
[21:39] <Frijolie> dffdgh, soundray, thanks I'm looking it up now
[21:39] <Dante123> its his computer...of course he gets admin privilidges (hes in high school)
[21:39] <rods> quibbler: its a poor Gnome-do replacement
[21:39] <russia213> Quibbler: No, "Error 15: file not found"
[21:39] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:39] <shubbar> dayo_, photos and videos i shot
[21:39] <shady> ok its just my first time, so thx
[21:40] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: parted magic is a Linux distribution, and it is not really on topic here.
[21:40] <Er2K> audioHack:  My main myth backend has 10-30GB of writes per day, about half of which are deleted by the next day.  XFS has been *wonderful* for that, just set an obscenely large allocation size.
[21:40] <dayo_> shubbar: u're trying to dual-boot?
[21:40] <ImSad> I got steam to install in Program Files, but now I have to re-install my games for some reason .
[21:40] <Suburban_Ed> It's a distribution?
[21:40] <Wolfmankurd> Does xforcevesa not work on 8.10?
[21:40] <shubbar> dayo_, no, just go back to 8.04 after trying 8.10
[21:40] <dffdgh> 3:28	Âõîäèì â êîìíàòó ÷àòà...
[21:40] <dffdgh> 	Íà÷àëî ðàçãîâîðà â ubuntu, äàòà: ñóááîòà 07.02.2009 23:28:31
[21:40] <dffdgh> 	Òåìà êîìíàòû: Îôèöèàëüíûé Ubuntu Êàíàë Ïîääåðæêè Áûòü òåðïåëèâûé è âû÷èòàííûé https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ | Ïîääåðæèâàéòå âûáîð: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | Èíôîðìàöèÿ IRC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC | Íàêëåèâàåò ê http://paste.ubuntu.com | Óñòàíîâèòå Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[21:40] <dffdgh> 	-> dark_age âîøåë â ubuntu
[21:40] <dffdgh> 	<- spo0ok îòñîåäèíèëñÿ (Îñâîáîæäåíèå Client)
[21:40] <quibbler> rods: when you installed it there were no errors?
[21:40] <FloodBot1> dffdgh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:41] <gsp2009> so let me get this straight. If I have two machines on the same network, both running ubuntu with shares, they are still going to show up as a windoze workgroup? So do I have to define the workgroup name for every machine, and then in smb.conf?
[21:41] <audioHack> Hrm, that sounds particularly useful for my on-campus file share to the massives >_>
[21:41] <rods> quibbler: no errors
[21:41] <rods> not sure why it wouldn't show up
[21:41] <gsp2009> MBC, no prob.
[21:41] <dayo_> dffdgh: wtf??!
[21:41] <quibbler> rods: try launching it from the terminal
[21:42] <ImSad> dayo_: I'm pretty sure he's already banned.
[21:42] <YeaRight> how do you get g++ ?
[21:42] <Er2K> audioHack: Some of the drives in question are usb.  The host CPU load is even significantly lower when using XFS.  All those unnecessary seeks create a lot of usb chatter.
[21:42] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:42] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: yes, it is a distribution
[21:42] <shubbar> dayo_, thanks, i'll go with the two partitions
[21:42] <audioHack> Er2K: How big of a an allocation size are you talking?
[21:42] <mikesholle1> I can't seem to empty my trash.  There's an item in there that tells me I don't have permission to delete it.  Any ideas?
[21:42] <rods> quibbler: synaptic package manager?
[21:42] <quibbler> russia213: you should of had different errors
[21:42] <usser> gsp2009, the workgroup is specified in smb.conf. for windows networking.
[21:42] <dayo_> shubbar: so the pictures partion is your home directory?
[21:42] <shawnmstout> can someone give me a hand with manually installing a driver in xorg.conf
[21:42] <dayo_> ImSad: ok
[21:42] <quibbler> rods:  no launchy
[21:42] <psion> does anyone know a decent website editor for linux? I'm used to dreamweaver in windows
[21:42] <rods> k
[21:42] <Suburban_Ed> Okay, forget Parted Magic then. How do you recommend partitioning my drive for a Ubuntu install?
[21:42] <shawnmstout> its an ati pro 128
[21:42] <audioHack> Oh really? I've been having performance issues with USB drives lately, since the server their on is rather old.
[21:42] <MBC> sudo is asking me for a password, help
[21:43] <soundray> mikesholle1: in a terminal, run 'sudo rm .local/share/Trash/*'
[21:43] <shubbar> dayo_, it was just one partition.
[21:43] <dayo_> MBC: use the password u use to login with
[21:43] <gsp2009> psion, google "linux alternative project"... Dreamweaver is in the list
[21:43] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:43] <usser> psion, you can run dreamweaver in linux with wine, anything prior to cs3 will work
[21:43] <rods> quibbler: opens
[21:43] <soundray> MBC: so, enter your password (the one you use as a user)
[21:43] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:43] <dayo_> shubbar: i don't get it. i thought u said u have two partitions, one with pics and vids on it
[21:43] <audioHack> I've had CS3 worth rather well for me in Wine.  Though, hrm. I might have been CrossOver Linux.  I can't recall.
[21:43] <psion> usser: ah, I see... unfortunately I have cs3 lol
[21:43] <Cpudan80> does anyone know what compiz setting controls the window border transparency?
[21:43] <MBC> dayo_ : god I'm thick
[21:44] <usser> psion, it might work hang on
[21:44] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: you reported a strangeness about your hard  disk drives. When I asked you about it, you stopped responding.
[21:44] <eipipuz> Sorry to bother you guys, #openssh is mute... any one knows how to have user specific authentication?
[21:44] <dffdgh> rosyjska Mafia
[21:44] <quibbler> rods: ok it's installed it should show up in synaptic
[21:44] <dayo_> MBC: ;-)
[21:44] <Bram> hello, I need to install ubuntu on a windows computer, but I can't boot up a cd, what can I do?
[21:44] <shawnmstout> isnt it gdedit xorg.conf ?
[21:44] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:44] <Gnea> ua: what about vlc?
[21:44] <shubbar> dayo_, no, i m installing 8.04 on the new 2nd partition
[21:44] <Suburban_Ed> soundray, I responded to the last thing I saw
[21:44] <Gnea> !repeat | ua
[21:44] <rods> quibbler: could it be named something else then? Something non-obvious? Any way to search synaptic by date?
[21:44] <YeaRight> anyone know how to get g++ compiler?
[21:44] <psion> mbc: visudo and %admin ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[21:44] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: I asked whether you used Windows XP tools to partition your disks
[21:44] <MBC> huh
[21:44] <psion> MBC: then add your user to the group admin
[21:44] <shawnmstout> isnt it gdedit xorg.conf ?
[21:44] <dffdgh>  :'(
[21:44] <gsp2009> Bram, use the windows installer... anyone remember what it is called?
[21:44] <quibbler> rods: what was the deb called?
[21:45] <audioHack> Wubi
[21:45] <ua> don't install vlc yet
[21:45] <usser> psion, well it got gold rating on appdb.winehq.org so it should work rather well http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7694
[21:45] <gsp2009> thanks audioHack. Bram use Wubi.
[21:45] <audioHack> Wubi is what you're looking for gsp2009.
[21:45] <Gnea> ua: I don't know then.  wait 5 minutes and ask again.
[21:45] <Suburban_Ed> soundray, I don't recall exactly how I partitioned it originally, I had help. Since I've only used XP on this computer I'm assuming it was XP tools.
[21:45] <Bram> gsp2009: no, I want to make sure there is nothing left of windows but have ubuntu
[21:45] <rods> quibbler: launchy_2.1.2-1_i386.deb
[21:45] <dayo_> YeaRight: i'm not sure, but i think it's part of build-essential? sudo aptitude install build-essential
[21:45] <soundray> psion: please don't recommend this here, it is not safe.
[21:45] <ua> ok
[21:45] <dffdgh> àóäèîçàðóáêà	Wubi
[21:45] <dffdgh> 	<- Gate îòñîåäèíèëñÿ (×èòàéòå îøèáêó: 60 (Äåéñòâèå, õðîíîìåòðèðîâàííîå))
[21:45] <dffdgh> 	-> irbdavid âîøåë â ubuntu
[21:45] <dffdgh> 	ua	íå óñòàíàâëèâàéòå vlc åùå
[21:45] <dffdgh> 	<- shubbar îòñîåäèíèëñÿ ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]")
[21:45] <FloodBot1> dffdgh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <dffdgh> 	usser	psion, õîðîøî ýòî ïîëó÷èëî çîëîòóþ îöåíêó íà appdb.winehq.org, òàê ÷òî ýòî äîëæíî ðàáîòàòü ñêîðåå õîðîøî http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7694
[21:46] <gsp2009> Bram, so you want to completely delete your windows?
[21:46] <audioHack> Without booting from any media?
[21:46] <Bram> gsp2009: yeah
[21:46] <soundray> !ops | dffdgh repeatedly flooding
[21:46] <dayo_> shubbar: which means u're dual-booting hardy and ibex. after that u want to join both partitions and have just hardy? if so, why not backup your pics and then instal over the entire disk?
[21:46] <Gnea> dffdgh: stop.
[21:46] <redvamp128> !ops | dffdgh:
[21:46] <quibbler> rods: and a search in synaptic can't find launchy?
[21:46] <Gnea> !pm | ua
[21:46] <gsp2009> Bram, and your bios doesn't support booting to CD?
[21:46] <rods> quibbler: right
[21:47] <YeaRight> dayo_ tx
[21:47] <Bram> gsp2009: no, it doesn't it only makes strange sounds
[21:47] <dayo_> YeaRight: u're welcome
[21:47] <gsp2009> Bram, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[21:47] <audioHack> Good call gsp2009
[21:48] <kotan> were to look for help on upgrading to 8.10 from 7.10
[21:48] <gsp2009> Bram, livecd first, create floppy... boot to floppy. ;)
[21:48] <Flannel> kotan: You need to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 and then to 8.10 from 8.04
[21:48] <rods> quibbler: got it
[21:48] <Bram> gsp2009: No I have xp on that one and I can get to internet etc. But I want to make it ubuntu
[21:48] <quibbler> rods: update synaptic
[21:48] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: it's very strange that gparted doesn't see your partitions. The first thing you should have is a backup of all important data.
[21:48] <quibbler> rods: got what
[21:49] <Jan|> Can you install ubuntu on a SATA hard drive and how would I do it?
[21:49] <russia213> I get grub error 15, help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/115436/
[21:49] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: I've backed it up already just in case.
[21:49] <gsp2009> Bram, oh sorry... hmmmmmmmm... lemme think about that.
[21:49] <rods> quibbler: not sure why it wasn't showing up before, but its good now. Must have been the update. Did a general search instead of a quick search. Launchy showed up. All is good in the world. Appreciate the help!
[21:49] <Renfield> Ok, I have networking set up. My hard drive is mounted. Also, I can SSH into my Ubuntu minimal install setup. How, now, do I get data off of the disk?
[21:49] <Gnea> Jan|: the same way you install it to an IDE
[21:49] <quibbler> rods: ;-)
[21:49] <unop> Renfield, scp
[21:49] <ua> people totem don't work after instalation nvvidia drivers ( NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run ) please help
[21:49] <kotan> thanks
[21:50] <Er2K> audioHack:  I use an allocsize of 512M.  99% of the files on those drives are mpg and avi, most in the 0.75-2GB range, with 1.1GB being by far the most common size.
[21:50] <own> i need to create a new user with all rights, CLI is the only way i can login as root right now, i need to create a user account with almost all the rights, can anyone give me the commands?
[21:50] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: good. How is the machine running at the moment -- still booted to parted magic?
[21:50] <audioHack> Hm, I did a ubuntu install a few years ago, before Wubi existed because I couldn't boot from CD... Let me go to my notes Bram.
[21:50] <Renfield> It appears that scp is not available in the minimal install (though ssh was downloaded and configured). And when I try to scp from my other computer in through SSH, I just get: Failed to open terminal.
[21:50] <dayo_> ua: try vlc or kaffeine.
[21:50] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: Yes, I'm still in Parted Magic
[21:50] <russia213> I get grub error 15, help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/115436/
[21:50] <gsp2009> Bram... so first thing is first. Did you download the Ubuntu image and burn it to CD?
[21:50] <psion> own: useradd
[21:51] <own> psion i have tried that
[21:51] <Bram> gsp2009: yeas I did, most recent version
[21:51] <lakotajames>  I have this script: { find /share/Video/ -name \*.avi  | sed 's,^/share,stream = http://<IP_ADDRESS>,'; echo palwsfix = 0: } > mplayerwii.conf
[21:51] <lakotajames>  is there a way to make it list the files in alphabetical order?
[21:51] <janwari> has anyone successfully been able to get Ubuntu to work with dual monitor using two graphic cards ?
[21:51] <YeaRight> I downloaded linux appliance, how do you find the ps for su
[21:51] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: can you open a terminal?
[21:51] <Jan|> Gnea how do I know if VIA VT8237 is supported?
[21:51] <audioHack> Thanks Er2K
[21:51] <gsp2009> Bram, ok. Did you put the CD in the drive and browse it's contents in another OS?
[21:51] <dayo_> own: System-->Administration-->Users and Groups
[21:52] <Gnea> Jan|: what is that? a SATA controller?
[21:52] <own> psion, it creates a standard user only without any admin rights like opening "user and groups"
[21:52] <Jan|> gnea, yes
[21:52] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: I think I have a Terminal open if this ROXTerm thing is a terminal.
[21:52] <_VIM_> !away > jakswa|away
[21:52] <olibi> how can i run "mv .* .."
[21:52] <russia213> I get grub error 15, help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/115436/
[21:52] <Suburban_Ed> I can't find anything that says "terminal"
[21:52] <Gnea> Jan|: is that an Asus A8V motherboard?
[21:53] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: can you run 'fdisk -l' in it, and does it create sensible output?
[21:53] <Bram> gsp2009: No, but it does act strange here as well
[21:53] <Renfield> Is there a way for me to download scp into the minimal CDs environment or something?
[21:53] <psion> own: add the user to groups with usermod -G <groups> username
[21:53] <Renfield> Er the minimal install's
[21:53] <ikonia> Renfield: you'd have to re-master the minimal CD
[21:53] <ikonia> Renfield: so you'd need all the scp dependencies (ssl etc)
[21:54] <Renfield> ikonia: But it downloads other things from the net that it needs.
[21:54] <Er2K> russia213:  I think there is a repair option on the cd boot menu?  I don't have an unoccupied machine handy (dang kids...dang wife) to look
[21:54] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: It does give sensible output. Around 20 lines long. Should I post it?
[21:54] <Jan|> russia213 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261
[21:54] <gsp2009> Bram, ok. Well it may be a bad disk. You will have to make sure that you can get an image onto a CD that works first. You should be able to browse the contents from XP or whatever. Then try and boot to it.
[21:54] <Suburban_Ed> Maybe a screenshot would be less obnoxious
[21:54] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: not here -- can you put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[21:54] <ikonia> Renfield: no it doesn't
[21:54] <Bram> gsp2009: well another ubuntu cd doesn't work either
[21:54] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: only if you don't have to type it all in.
[21:55] <Tonik> What's the point of enabling the "dapper-updates" repository before upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04?
[21:55] <ikonia> Renfield: it only downloads it if you are getting it real time, to include it on a livecd - you'd need to have it installed with all the working dependencies
[21:55] <bluerayq> anyone know why there is no kubuntu-desktop in my synaptics package manager?
[21:55] <gsp2009> Did you make them both Bram? What did you use to burn the image?
[21:55] <Jan|> Gnea, yes it's an ASUS A8V Deluxe
[21:55] <soundray> Tonik: it's essential. If you don't, you can't upgrade.
[21:55] <ikonia> Tonik: bring it as up to date as possible as the jump from 6.06 to 8.04 is a big jump
[21:55] <Suburban_Ed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/115438/
[21:55] <Renfield> ikonia: I don't need it included on a livecd. I just need it available during this install.
[21:55] <gsp2009> bluerayq, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-kde-41-on-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[21:55] <Renfield> ikonia: Sorry, maybe I mistyped.
[21:55] <quibbler> russia213: are you editing the line correctly...
[21:55] <ikonia> Renfield: then just install it the same as any other package
[21:56] <Tonik> soundray: well, I missed that step and it's downloading new packages happily now
[21:56] <Er2K> audioHack: Took me a minute to find it, but this is the bible I used for XFS.  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Optimizing_Performance#XFS-Specific_Tips  If you are trying to optimize XFS for big-arse media files, that is probably the best concise resource on the net.
[21:56] <soundray> Tonik: it's not going to work, though
[21:56] <Bram> one is of ubuntu 8.4 I did get it from someone else, the other one I burned myself as an cd image and then iso 9090 (was one option with iso) in the program k3b
[21:56] <Renfield> ikonia: Oh, but I need it before installing, so that I may retrieve some data from my hard drive prior to installing.
[21:56] <ikonia> Renfield: then it need to be installed before you start the install
[21:56] <ikonia> Renfield: or included on the livecd as I said
[21:57] <ikonia> Renfield: I do'nt see why you need to copy files before you install
[21:57] <Flannel> Tonik: It *may* work, but hasn't been tested/verified to work.  Dapper-updates + full up-to-date ensures a known configuration pre-upgrade
[21:57] <Suburban_Ed> Oh, forgot to ping your name. soundray I added it at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/115438/
[21:57] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: okay, fdisk seems to be able to read your first disk (/dev/sda)'s partitions at least.
[21:57] <Bram> gsp2009: one is of ubuntu 8.4 I did get it from someone else, the other one I burned myself as an cd image and then iso 9090 (was one option with iso) in the program k3b
[21:57] <Tonik> Flannel: i see
[21:57] <gsp2009> Bram. Start over. If you can't read them in XP (I am assuming your drive struggles and "cruches") they are most likely bad.
[21:57] <Jan|> Gnea, yes it's an ASUS A8V Deluxe
[21:57] <Flannel> Tonik: Are you using update-manager-core?
[21:57] <redvamp128> russia213:  I think I see why it is not booting
[21:57] <Gnea> Jan|: http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/product+asus-a8v-deluxe?id=6593
[21:57] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: maybe /dev/sdb really doesn't have any partitions?
[21:57] <Bram> gsp2009: can't I just download an installer?
[21:57] <gsp2009> Bram, I will dig up a name of an XP util to burn the image.
[21:57] <Tonik> Flannel: mmm, yes, the do-* cli thing
[21:57] <gsp2009> Bram, no. You have to boot to media to install.
[21:58] <Renfield> ikonia: Well, then maybe i'm confused. There is a section "download installer components" I thought that meant that it literally downloads some software necessary for installation, and uses it as though it were already on a live CD.                      on ubuntu 8.10
[21:59] <Er2K> rj_:  tar is just an archive format.  File-roller will let you muck with it graphically, or "tar -xvf file" will extract it from the shell
[21:59] <Renfield> Oh, well. I'll just go out and buy 700Mb CDs later. I think the minimal CD is too minimal.
[21:59] <Gnea> Jan|: please, no dcc chat
[22:00] <jrib> olibi: by typing it in and pressing enter?  What do you actually want to accomplish?
[22:00] <Jan|> Gnea, Ive got an ASUS A8V Deluxe yes
[22:00] <kotan> %C13Flannel: thanks. I have in 810 iso image but do not know how to come by an upgrde 804
[22:00] <etko> ikonia : the problem was caused by ipv6
[22:00] <olibi> http://www.wtorrent-project.org/trac/wiki/DebianInstall
[22:00] <russia213> rEDVAMP128: WHY?
[22:00] <etko> on ubuntu
[22:00] <Flannel> !upgrade | kotan
[22:00]  * gsp2009 is still perplexed at file shares and networking on 8.10. Ugh.
[22:00] <rj__> ok ill try that
[22:00] <soundray> MIrrorIMage: please don't use the instructions on ubuntu-tutorials.com -- they are outdated
[22:00] <etko> after disabling it everything got working
[22:00] <russia213> redvamp128: why?*
[22:00] <redvamp128> russia213:  see pm
[22:00] <soundray> MIrrorIMage: use the medibuntu repository
[22:00] <ikonia> etko: no way !
[22:00] <soundray> !medibuntu | MIrrorIMage
[22:01] <Gnea> Jan|: no need to repeat yourself. have you tried installing it yet?
[22:01] <olibi> and runnung it returns :mv: cannot move `.' to `../.': Device or resource busy and mv: cannot move `..' to `../..': Device or resource busy
[22:01] <Jan|> Gnea yes it would not work
[22:01] <MIrrorIMage> soundray: which instructions should I follow then? Thanks
[22:01] <Gnea> Jan|: that's a bit too vague. any chance of clearing it up?
[22:01] <jrib> olibi: so?
[22:01] <Jan|> Gnea however if I tried to install debian it worked..
[22:02] <soundray> MIrrorIMage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -- I favor the medibuntu method
[22:02] <etko> ikonia : i guess the problem vas caused by having ipv6 support in
[22:02] <MIrrorIMage> ubottu: I read that medibuntu will remove some packages, which is not a good thing
[22:02] <etko> openbsd which on a small network i haven't configured
[22:02] <ikonia> etko: I believe you - but I don't understand how as that should not effect anything
[22:02] <cockroach> hey, i'm looking for a place like snapshot.debian.net but for ubuntu, that is, a place to get older versions of specific packages. is there such a thing?
[22:02] <soundray> Hello Suburban_Ed -- is it possible that your second disk is not partitioned?
[22:02] <etko> and i don't know how to
[22:02] <jrib> olibi: it still moves .* to ...  It just tells you that it couldn't move . and .. for obvious reasons
[22:03] <etko> and that propably got ubuntus ipv6 subsystem confused
[22:03] <Gnea> Jan|: it would be helpful if you could shed light on the exact problem(s) you ran into - simply stating that the sata controller was the problem doesn't say anything. do you have any evidence to back it up? any dmesg errors?
[22:03] <soundray> MIrrorIMage: medibuntu won't remove anything. Where did you read this?
[22:03] <olibi> jrib: ok. thanks.
[22:03] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: I don't see how that could be possible. My partitions are 100GB 100GB 200GB and 200GB and are on two 300 GB drives. So it has to be using both.
[22:03] <gsp2009> Just a thought. I use skpe everyday and didn't install it from medibuntu repos.
[22:04]  * Debolaz is in love with foxit.
[22:04] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: okay, let me think
[22:04] <etko> ikonia : does ipv6 have precedence before ipv4 when routing?
[22:05] <ikonia> no
[22:05] <Jan|> Gnea http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885712
[22:05] <ikonia> etko: as you have no ipv6 address there is nothing to route
[22:05] <soundray> gsp2009: the best advice is to get it from medibuntu, nevertheless.
[22:05] <etko> yah but openbsd has ipv6 enabled by default also
[22:05] <olibi> jrib: was looking for somethin like "ls -A |grep "^\." |xargs -i mv "{}" .." Thanks :D
[22:05] <etko> so maybe it was doing something with network packets
[22:06] <MIrrorIMage> soundray: I am looking for the link now. It was a comment on a medibuntu forum
[22:06] <etko> but it was nowhere mentioned it can cause such a problem and it is better to disable it on home network
[22:06] <etko> if you don't have clue about it
[22:06] <soundray> MIrrorIMage: I think you can safely forget that warning.
[22:07] <MIrrorIMage> soundray: Thanks man!
[22:08] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: I think I have to pull out of this. If it was my system, I'd try to rewrite the partition table with Windows tools, but I'm not familiar enough with Windows to instruct you how -- sorry
[22:08] <Gnea> Jan|: wow, so that happened last summer... have you tried 8.10?
[22:09] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: Okay, I'll do some research on it. Thanks for your help.
[22:09] <Jan|> Gnea not yet
[22:09] <Gnea> Jan|: it has a newer kernel, you should try it out
[22:09] <zaapiel> say im on kubuntu and want to install ubuntu what is the command?
[22:09] <Jan|> Gnea like I said debian worked fine and I find this weird since ubuntu is based on it
[22:10] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: just out of interest, and to confirm: gparted sees no partitions on /dev/sda either?
[22:10] <soundray> zaapiel: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[22:10] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: Right, Gparted shows both disks as "unallocated", seeing no partitions at all.
[22:10] <Jan|> Gnea, yeah will keep in mind to try it out
[22:10] <zaapiel> aptty
[22:10] <zaapiel> ty
[22:11] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: so there are three opinions in total: the one from gparted, the one from fdisk and the Windows one. This is really weird.
[22:11] <Suburban_Ed> Haha, I know
[22:11] <Gnea> Jan|: perhaps you've misunderstood what 'based on' actually means - yes, ubuntu uses the same package management system, but the packages, while some of them are rebranded from debian, are sourcefully different. therefore, ubuntu is not debian and different results are to be expected.
[22:12] <gsp2009> Bram, you get it worked out?
[22:12] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: what you could do, if you trust your backup, is to just write the partitions with gparted (and destroy the current partitions)
[22:13] <Bram> gsp2009: no, I don't have any idea about what to do...
[22:13] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: That would render Windows dead though, right? I would need to reinstall it.
[22:13] <Bram> gsp2009: since I really can't make a cd (well it doesn't work) and there doesn't seem to be another way of installing
[22:14] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: I've got one other idea: there is a tool called gpart (not gparted) that reconstructs partition tables. This wouldn't destroy anything.
[22:14] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: a similar one is called testdisk (but I haven't used that one personally)
[22:14] <gsp2009> Bram, ok. If you were to download the iso right now on windows, what would you use to burn it?
[22:15] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: Sounds good. I'll check it out. Is it a live boot kind of thing?
[22:15] <redvamp128> gsp2009:  a good free program to burn iso images is The Official ImgBurn Website <http://www.imgburn.com/>
[22:15] <Bram> gsp2009: I can't burn on windows, I did burn it in this ubuntu and then put it in windows, I did use a program called k3b
[22:16] <unixdawg> afternoon
[22:16] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: on the assumption that Windows just wrote partition tables that are in some way non-standard and are therefore inaccessible to gparted, these tools might help. -- Yes, I think there is a live CD version of gparted. If not, you can install it into a Ubuntu live system.
[22:16] <shawnmstout> whats the command to find out how much ram is installed
[22:16] <redvamp128> gsp2009:  that that is for windows.
[22:16] <JC_Denton__> which software would you recommend for to remotely control my desktop on the local network? VLC? I'd obviously prefer software which would alter the desktop output to suit my resolution
[22:16] <shawnmstout> just want to make sure system is seeing it properly
[22:16] <pepperjack> shawnmstout: cat /proc/meminfo
[22:16] <MBC> I have a .sh file that I want to run, help?
[22:16] <Gnea> shawnmstout: free
[22:16] <pepperjack> shawnmstout: or free
[22:16] <gsp2009> redvamp128, thanks.
[22:16] <shawnmstout> thanks
[22:17] <gsp2009> Bram, so you have another linux machine?
[22:17] <Suburban_Ed> soundray: Okay, cool. I'll go try the goods out. Thanks again.
[22:17] <soundray> JC_Denton__: VNC (not VLC)
[22:17] <TelQuel> I have a dual boot system with a windows partition on top of my ubuntu install and I was just wondering what the best way was to go about formatting one of the partitions?
[22:17] <soundray> Suburban_Ed: good luck
[22:17] <redvamp128> gsp2009:  though it is recomended not to burn - images at speeds greater than 12x
[22:17] <JC_Denton__> soundray: eh, that's what I meant
[22:17] <JC_Denton__> soundray: little slip of the brain :)
[22:17] <shawnmstout> sweet thanks again
[22:17] <CoJaBo> How do I disable the "hardware drivers" option on the menu in Xubuntu? Seems clicking this causes the system to lock up.
[22:17] <Bram> gsp2009: yes, I have the one that I'm using now with ubuntu (8.10) And my windows one is full with virusses etc. so I want to make it ubuntu as well
[22:18] <pepperjack> TelQuel: you can do a simple sudo mkfs.ext3 or whatever fstype so mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc2 or whatever but make really really sure the partition you format
[22:18] <MBC> I have a .sh file that I want to run, help?
[22:18] <gsp2009> Bram, OH! I misunderstood. Sorry man. I thought you were on windows now and wanted to turf it for 8.10
[22:19] <gsp2009> Bram, brb.
[22:19] <redvamp128> MBC:  right click on the file-- choose properties-- then permissions then checkmark box for make it executible.
[22:19] <TelQuel> pepperjack, but formatting the windows partition won't break GRUB? I am going to reinstall windows but I want to make sure my nix partition is still intact.
[22:19] <pepperjack> MBC: open it with a text editor and look at the top line. itll say like #!/bin/sh or #!/usr/bin/bash or whatever so bash file.sh or just make it executable and then ./file.sh
[22:19] <soundray> JC_Denton__: Ubuntu comes with vino by default for the "server" side -- configure it through System-Preferences-Remote Desktop
[22:19] <gsp2009> Bram, sounds to me like this is a K3b issue. brb
[22:19] <soundray> JC_Denton__: for a client, try vinagre
[22:19] <Bram> gsp2009: ok
[22:19] <redvamp128> MBC:  then it should be able to run-- double click and choose run in terminal
[22:19] <pepperjack> TelQuel: no grub is installed to the hd mbr and it loads /boot/grub on the ubuntu partition you only need to maintain /boot partitition and mbr
[22:20] <JC_Denton__> soundray: thanks
[22:20] <pronoy> !jre
[22:20] <pepperjack> TelQuel: now if you format the ubuntu partition this will result in badness
 thanks
[22:21] <TelQuel> pepperjack, ok, so no matter how I format the windows partition GRUB should remain intact and it should be fine to simply reinstall windows and GRUB should recognize it and run as usual?
[22:21] <pronoy> is there a way to obtain .deb packages of JRE ?
[22:21] <slicslak> i would like to try kde 4.2.  i have a default ubuntu install atm.  what's the best way to get kde4?
[22:21] <pepperjack> TelQuel: yep
[22:22] <unop> pronoy, why do you want the .deb ?  to install the JRE?
[22:22] <redvamp128> slicslak:  try syntaptic package manger and install Kubuntu-desktop
[22:22] <russia213> redvamp128: It worked...to a point
[22:22] <pepperjack> TelQuel: so grub exists on mbr which the system loads then grub loads the stuff in /boot as long as the partition number remains the same youre fine
[22:22] <TelQuel> pepperjack, alright, is it possible to format the windows partition from inside ubuntu?
[22:22] <pepperjack> TelQuel: yes very easy
[22:22] <pronoy> unop: i can access internet only through windows...long story....so i need .deb for JRE so that i can install your-freedom on int
[22:22] <pronoy> *it
[22:22] <unixdawg> when is kde4.2 going to be in pkgs
[22:22] <redvamp128> slicslak:  then log out-- choose options then window manger -- then - select KDE then log in choose just for session
[22:23] <unixdawg> is anyone working on it
[22:23] <Deamos> lo pepople
[22:23] <Deamos> damn, that was hell trying to do the registration
[22:23] <cdavis>  I am hunting a usb scanner that will duplex and auto feed multi-pagers. I don't need a flatbet. I am looking through the supported hardware list but having a hard time figuruting out what is new and what is long since discontinued. Can anyone make a suggestion?
[22:23] <TelQuel> pepperjack, well I am very glad that I went with the dual boot config, alright so what is the command to format C: from inside ubuntu? (windows is C: simply due to convention)
[22:23] <pepperjack> TelQuel: you can do a sudo fdisk -l to list all partitions then a sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/partitionnumber where partitionnumber might be sda3 or whatever
[22:23] <unop> pronoy, this should help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OfflinePackageDownload
[22:23] <RichardWolfVI> Hey all, I'm having an annoying issue with duplicate devices.
[22:24] <pepperjack> TelQuel: that is the command line option there are tools in the gui too
[22:24] <RichardWolfVI> My network devices ar shown four times on the panel.
[22:24] <DasE1> pepperjack: gparted is a graphic tool for that
[22:25] <nonix4> which risks should I expect if/when I try to use a Hardy /home with Ibex for a while and then reboot back to Hardy?
[22:25] <TelQuel> pepperjack,  I generally prefer the terminal route as GUI is more buggy. Ok so my NTFS windows partition is the /dev/sda1 ...
[22:25] <TelQuel> pepperjack, but I want to format it for NTFS right?
[22:25] <pronoy> unop: DUDE i've been looking for this like forever.. !!! thanks !!!
[22:25] <pepperjack> TelQuel: depends. what do you want to use it for?
[22:26] <Deamos> I have a quick question regarding file systems.  I am looking for a setup to replace my current WHS to an open source solution.  Well, as for the file system I was hoping for one that works with Storage Pooling.  I add a new HDD and it adds it to the pool
[22:26] <gsp2009> Bram, I am not overly familiar with K3b, but it sounds like it is making coasters. If you can't read the contents of the disk after you have burned it in either ubuntu or windows, something is up. Can you use another app to mount the iso? Also, did you verify the checksum after you downloaded before trying to burn it?
[22:26] <TelQuel> pepperjack, this is the windows part... so it needs to be NTFS I am pretty sure ... or technically FAT32. heh.
[22:26] <Renfield> Ok, I need some additional assistance. I managed to get ssh and scp running in my minimal install. I started copying some files off of the hard drive onto my remote file server. Then it stalled. Now, I can't even ping anything from the minimal install.
[22:26] <_VIM_> nonix4: that doesnt sound to safe to me, have you concidered using virtualbox for testing ibex?
[22:26] <DasE1> nonix4: none
[22:26] <tonsofpcs> I want to create a playlist file (in any format that VLC can use) automatically when the contents of a directory change.  Is this possible or would it be easier for me to just set up a daily cron job that runs a script that I can also manually run to update this playlist?
[22:27] <moonwatcher> hi
[22:27] <Renfield> How do I determine why I have lost networking communications, and how do I get it back?
[22:27] <pepperjack> TelQuel: ah i wouldnt format ntfs for windows with a linux tool if i knew of one.  what i would do is use the windows install cd to do it. sorry didnt know you wanted ntfs
[22:27] <Bram> gsp2009: what is the checksum? And normally k3b just works fine for example with music
[22:27] <nonix4> _VIM_: already kinda done that but no, I don't support commercialish VM software, rather prefer using ubuntu-supplied kvm :)
[22:27] <CoJaBo> Any suggestions for unfreezing the system, or is hard reset the only option?
[22:27] <moonwatcher> having issues with a P5B Asus board and its on board NICs
[22:27] <DasE1> nonix: but why change it ? simply additional mount it on a dualboot
[22:27] <Deamos> Anyone have an idea other than doing a RAID0?
[22:27] <Renfield> moonwatcher: Oh, you too!
[22:27] <moonwatcher> can't seem to make them function at 1Gb
[22:27] <moonwatcher> is that a common thing?
[22:27] <TelQuel> pepperjack, ok so the windows install CD/DVD should be able to format the windows partition on its own anyway if I boot from CD correct?
[22:27] <Renfield> I just got a P5GC.
[22:28] <Renfield> And just now my network access is gone.
[22:28] <pepperjack> TelQuel: yeah just dont let it use the whole hd and reformat everything
[22:28] <soundray> tonsofpcs: make the playlist a named pipe that does a ls on the directory each time it is read
[22:28] <nonix4> DasE1: hmm, true... that'll be a lot safer :)
[22:28] <_VIM_> nonix4: I hear ya, open-source is always a better choice if we can avoid the alternatives :)
[22:28] <Renfield> Oh, but this is only 10/100.
[22:28] <gsp2009> Bram, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[22:28] <moonwatcher> th small thingy near the clock (network manager or something)  is completely not sure whats going on
[22:28] <TelQuel> pepperjack, and that way it will do NTFS. Yeah, I won't. I wish there was a way to get a common partition for storage that would read in both OSes.
[22:28] <RichardWolfVI> nonix4: There's a open source version of VirtualBox on the repos
[22:28] <slicslak> redvamp128, right, so kubuntu-desktop uses kde4 now?
[22:28] <Accesshater> Good evening (Netherlands :p), i have some problems with my desktop and would like to have some help. Everything works fine, but my desktop doesnt have any icons. And i cant use my rightsmouse button on the desktop. But the wallpapers are working just fine.
[22:28] <Accesshater> If i go to my home directory and look in the Desktop folder i see that there are enough files, but the arent being displayed.
[22:28] <Accesshater> could someone help me
[22:28] <tonsofpcs> soundray: hmmm... interesting, how do I do that?
[22:29] <Accesshater> http://paste.ubuntu.com/115445/ this is what is being logged in .xessesion-log
[22:29] <nonix4> RichardWolfVI: well KVM works well so I don't see a point in testing that out... unless it can do OpenGL :)
[22:29] <soundray> tonsofpcs: hold on, I have to look it up :)
[22:29] <_VIM_> RichardWolfVI: that doesnt make them any less "commercialish"
[22:29] <_VIM_> :)
[22:29] <moonwatcher> Renfield: is this some ubuntu crap or some Marvell crap?
[22:29] <pepperjack> TelQuel: you can use fat32 that is fine for a media share
[22:29] <Bram> gsp2009: I didn't know it was that hard to install ubuntu...
[22:29] <tonsofpcs> thanks soundray :)
[22:29] <RichardWolfVI> nonix4: It does. And is WAY faster and more stable that kvm.
[22:29] <pepperjack> TelQuel: you can format fat32 in ubuntu.
[22:29] <RichardWolfVI> nonix4: kvm was hell for me
[22:30] <frg221> join #firefox
[22:30] <frg221> whoops
[22:30] <Renfield> moonwatcher: I'm not sure. I haven't gotten far enough to even get the desktop. I was just trying to scp files off of my hard drive prior to installation, and now I've lost all network communication.
[22:30] <Dillizar> how can i format a usb
[22:30] <nonix4> RichardWolfVI: on h/w w/ VM support?
[22:30] <gsp2009> Bram, it's not. You just may have a bad install, or the burn process didn't go so well.
[22:30] <DasE1> Dillizar: gparted
[22:30] <TelQuel> pepperjack, alright, well thanks a lot. I am going to finish backing stuff up on DVD and then attempt the format. Thanks again.
[22:30] <dean> Dillizar: try mkfs
[22:30] <RichardWolfVI> nonix4: Yeah, Core 2 Quad Q6600
[22:30] <Dillizar> DasE1, gparted and after that the path??
[22:30] <timahvo1> is there  any way to fork rtorrent to the background so it doesn't have to run in a terminal
[22:30] <dean> Dillizar: also fdisk. gparted is a GUI for these
[22:30] <timahvo1> ?
[22:30] <Bram> gsp2009: ok, thanks for all your help, I got to go now, but I'll try again
[22:31] <moonwatcher> Renfield: there seems to be some talks about this that date to 2007
[22:31] <dean> timavo1: gnu screen
[22:31] <moonwatcher> non with resultions
[22:31] <RichardWolfVI> timahvo1: Create a launcher, I guess.
[22:31] <_VIM_> timahvo1: does rtorrent & do anything?
[22:31] <DasE1> Dillizar: see above, just run it, choose usb-drive....
[22:31] <moonwatcher> just people bitching on and on and then the tickets closing
[22:31] <aixenv> hey guys i have an issue, i upgraded to 8.10 and lost my video
[22:31] <kotan> Flannel & ubottu thanks Igo now and try to on this site
[22:31] <dean> timavo1: also try nohup and putting an ampersand at the end
[22:31] <Renfield> moonwatcher: Oh? I'll look.
[22:31] <gsp2009> Bram, ok. Good luck, and this should work better for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[22:31] <aixenv> im lookin at the /var/log/org.0.log
[22:31] <Deamos> I have a quick question regarding file systems.  I am looking for a setup to replace my current WHS to an open source solution.  Well, as for the file system I was hoping for one that works with Storage Pooling.  I add a new HDD and it adds it to the pool
[22:32] <RichardWolfVI> aixenv: Try to reconfigure X
[22:32] <rjune_> Are there instructions for upgrading to Ibex?
[22:32] <Stroganoff> timahvo1: you can also press ctrl+f6 and run it from there (use f7 to go back to X)
[22:32] <Bram> gsp2009: ok thank you very much!   bye
[22:32] <soundray> tonsofpcs: still here?
[22:32] <dean> rjune_: update-manager works for upgrading
[22:32] <tonsofpcs> yup
[22:33] <rjune_> dean: to non released versions?
[22:33] <dean> rjune_: also 'sudo sed -i 's/hardy/intrepid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list'
[22:33] <tonsofpcs> soundray: 24/7
[22:33] <tonsofpcs> ;)
[22:33] <dean> rjune_: update-manager -d
[22:33] <rjune_> Thanks
[22:33] <WT> Just installed dual boot on Intrepid on Thinkpad T500. Two problems -- when I boot Linux, the Windows loses the ability to detect the ATI driver and I have to reinstall. When I boot linux, it wont start the gui unless I go boot the Windows XP partition first. any ideaS?
[22:33] <dean> rjune_: currently the latest is Jaunty Jackalope = 9.04
[22:33] <ua> dayo_
[22:33] <RichardWolfVI> rjune_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[22:33] <soundray> tonsofpcs: okay, assuming you have a directory ~/music and a directory in there that changes, let's call it ~/music/dyndir
[22:33] <aixenv> RichardWolfVI: dpkg-reconfigur xserver-xorg right?
[22:33] <ua> vlc don't work
[22:33] <DasE1> rjune: prefer a frsh install, but :  For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:33] <RichardWolfVI> aixenv: That's right.
[22:34] <rjune_> dean:  I know that, I want Intrepid Ibex
[22:34] <nonix4> RichardWolfVI: lol, there's virtualbox-ose-modules-openvz... two virtualization stacks on top of each other there?
[22:34] <rjune_> RichardWolfVI: thanks
[22:34] <tonsofpcs> ok
[22:34] <timahvo1> "rtorrent &" seems to work just fine ty all