[05:28] <histo> lilzeus: install smbtree on the machine that you have the share and run that.
[05:28] <Flannel> epaphus: What?  You want to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[05:28] <lilzeus> histo: Unable to mount location
[05:28] <progesterone> question: What's 'll' command-equivalent on Ubuntu terminal?
[05:28] <lilzeus> histo: Failed to retrieve share list from server
[05:28] <histo> epaphus: in #ubuntu+1 is support for 9.10
[05:29] <histo> lilzeus: when you run smbtree?
[05:29] <lilzeus> histo: on the machine sharing the folder, everything shows up fine
[05:29] <lilzeus> histo: on this machine is where I cannot access the other
[05:29] <datz> Does this mean there is no later version: Installed: 1.4.6dfsg1-2ubuntu1.1 Candidate: 1.4.6dfsg1-2ubuntu1.1
[05:30] <Bouquet> aw screw it, I'll just hit the big red button.
[05:30] <Flannel> datz: Have you done apt-get update recently?
[05:30] <histo> lilzeus: make sure you have samba-common on the machine that you can't access the other.
[05:30] <thiebaude> epaphus, update-manager -d
[05:30] <datz> yes
[05:30] <datz> let me try again
[05:30] <Flannel> datz: It means that as of your last apt-get update there's no newer version
[05:30] <datz> ok, so manually update?
[05:31] <datz> screen -r irssi
[05:31] <datz> oops
[05:31] <histo> datz: sudo apt-get update then run the command again
[05:31] <lilzeus> histo: yep, samba-common appears to be on here
[05:31]  * histo fingers crossed 90% pass with the bad stick removed hopefully memtest
[05:31] <epaphus> thiebaude, thanks.. i didnt explain myself well.
[05:32] <thiebaude> epaphus, np
[05:32] <BoxMagnet> histo, ok, now it says its already registered
[05:32] <BoxMagnet> when i try to open the share
[05:32] <BoxMagnet> i used ur smb.conf, edited of course.
[05:32] <BoxMagnet> and i added my self and samba quest account
[05:32] <datz> histo, same thing...looks like I need later version though. svn: This client is too old to work with working copy
[05:32] <BoxMagnet> to my group
[05:32]  * eclipse75 hugs BoxMagnet
[05:33] <BoxMagnet> eclipse75, lol
[05:33] <BoxMagnet> i think im going to kill my self soon
[05:33] <BoxMagnet> all i want to do is  watch a movie
[05:33] <BoxMagnet> arg
[05:33] <histo> BoxMagnet: you don't need users and guests with my smb.conf it just works and won't prompt for user pass when you connect.
[05:33] <epaphus> Hey guys, i installed icewm ... but I need a login screen for it (instead of GDM) .. what can i use?
[05:33] <Flannel> datz: There's an updated version (1.5.1) in hardy-backports
[05:34] <datz> thanks
[05:34] <BoxMagnet> histo, well it says already registered
[05:34] <histo> BoxMagnet: I really need my gui back to check but it will be a while perhaps someone else can help.  Thats just wierd. I don't get what is going on with you and lilzeus
[05:34] <datz> Flannel, do I have to add a repo?
[05:34] <ZykoticK9> epaphus, xdm - but it looks like it's from the 70s :(
[05:34] <lilzeus> histo: when I double click Windows Network from this machine, it is empty
[05:34]  * datz looks
[05:34] <BoxMagnet> me too
[05:35] <Flannel> datz: You need to enable backports, which could be seen as adding a repo.  I urge you not to enable -backports permanently, but just add it, update, install subversion, then remove it (don't upgrade)
[05:35] <lilzeus> the other machine(the one sharing the folder) everything shows up fine
[05:35] <Animagladius_> Night.
[05:36] <lilzeus> going to try something
[05:36] <lilzeus> attempting to share a folder on THIS machine, and see if the other can see it
[05:36] <datz> Flannel, ok...I'm only on command line here...any tutorials?
[05:36] <Flannel> datz: Yeah, it's easy.  Let me find one.
[05:36] <datz> thanks
[05:37] <BoxMagnet> ok
[05:37] <sam2> hello I need some information on ubuntu......
[05:37] <lilzeus> arrrggg
[05:37] <navap> !ask | sam2
[05:37] <epaphus> ZykoticK9, is that the only option? xdm and gdm?=
[05:37] <Flannel> datz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> epaphus, or kdm
[05:37] <thiebaude> sam2, what info?
[05:38] <sam2> I've been using fedora all these years , now I'm planning to shift to ubuntu..... I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS
[05:38] <lilzeus> now when I double click Windows Network, it opens and I see the workgroup(MSHOME), but when I double click that, I get that same 'unable to mount' error
[05:38] <datz> Flannel, thanks
[05:38] <sam2> Will yum update work in ubuntu???
[05:38] <thiebaude> sam2, what is your questions to the channel?
[05:38] <thiebaude> sam2, no
[05:38] <sam2> Will yum update work in ubuntu???
[05:38] <linden940> anyone that would call them selfs a pro with the xorg.conf?
[05:38] <Flannel> sam2: No, Ubuntu uses apt instead of rpm, but there's an equivalent command
[05:39] <Billiard> sam2: in ubuntu you will use apt-get update
[05:39] <lilzeus-web> so weird
[05:39] <linden940> anyone that would call them self a pro with xorg.conf? if so plez help me out here
[05:39] <lilzeus-web> this machine can see its own shares
[05:39] <sam2> ohhh.... k.... now after I install ubuntu, how to install KDE ??
[05:39] <Flannel> !anyone | lilzeus-web
[05:39] <lilzeus-web> the other cannot
[05:39] <Flannel> er,
[05:39] <Flannel> !anyone | linden940
[05:40] <Flannel> sam2: You'll be better off installing Kubuntu (assuming you just want KDE) instead of switching afterwards
[05:40] <Flannel> sam2: If you want both KDE and Gnome, just install the kubuntu-desktop package
[05:40] <lilzeus-web> I am going to restart the other machine, see if that helps
[05:41] <datz> Flannel, uncomment this? #deb https://edge.launchpad.net/~kklimonda/+archive/backports hardy main
[05:41] <histo> BoxMagnet: I just booted a livecd and I can connect to my share with that smb.conf on my server
[05:41] <sam2> Yes I actually want both kde and gnome....
[05:41] <Flannel> datz: No.  You want deb http://[your regular archive URL]/ubuntu hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:41] <lilzeus-web> lilzeus will be back
[05:41] <lilzeus-web> :)
[05:41] <linden940> can anyone help me mod the xorg.conf...i could use some help
[05:41] <BoxMagnet> lilzeus-web,
[05:41] <sam2> so after i install ubuntu how to get the kde??
[05:41] <Flannel> sam2: Alright, then it's as easy as installing "kubuntu-desktop"
[05:41] <BoxMagnet> got ur problem solved buddy
[05:42] <lilzeus-web> really?
[05:42] <histo> linden940: whats the problem?
[05:42] <DaZ> linden940: protip: ask exactly what you want to do :f
[05:42] <linden940> when i reboot my pc my res is real low
[05:42] <histo> linden940: what type of video card do you have?
[05:42] <ZykoticK9> linden940, are you able to pastebin your current xorg file - and tell the channel what you want changed.
[05:42] <thiebaude> !synaptic | sam2
[05:42] <linden940> so from all the reading i have been doing and as far as i have gotin i have been told that if i can mod the xorg.conf it would fix my promble
[05:43] <linden940> nvidia
[05:43] <sam2> should i give his command sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop ???
[05:43] <BoxMagnet> lilzeus-web, pm
[05:43] <datz> Flannel, humm, not seeing it, I guess I should find one to add?
[05:43] <Flannel> datz: What package manager are you using?
[05:43] <thiebaude> linden940, which nvidia?
[05:43] <Billiard> sam2: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <linden940> not sure
[05:43] <linden940> lol
[05:43] <histo> BoxMagnet: Now i'm writing to it with out a problem
[05:44] <linden940> i 4got looking it up
[05:44] <thiebaude> linden940, what problem are you having?
[05:44] <datz> Flannel, using gome..ubuntu 8.04  default one I guess
[05:44] <datz> gnome*
[05:44] <histo> linden940: lspci | grep VGA should show you the chipset
[05:44] <sam2> ohhh cool
[05:44] <thiebaude> linden940, i have nvidia 8400 gs
[05:44] <BoxMagnet> histo, im using ssh now
[05:44] <linden940> when i reboot my pc the res is very small and i cant see anything
[05:44] <lilzeus-web> weird
[05:44] <Flannel> datz: Alright, lets just drop to the command line since it'll be easier to help you.  Close whatever you're looking at (package manager), and then do this in a terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:44] <sam2> how to get the nvidia drivers ..... i ususlly face a hell lot of problem in fedora
[05:44] <lilzeus-web> this machine can see its own shares, the other cannot see its own shares
[05:44] <thiebaude> linden940, System-administration-hardware drivers
[05:44] <datz> Flannel, I'm using only command line
[05:45] <epaphus> If X can be used with a client to connect to a remote X server.. is there a limit then to have 20 LAN users run everything remotely? (like firefox and office) what are the limitations?
[05:45] <histo> linden940: install the restricted drivers as thiebaude suggested
[05:45] <Flannel> datz: Oh, wait.  hah, wrong question, sorry.
[05:45] <Billiard> sam2: its very easy in ubuntu, there will be a popup that 3rd party drivers are availiable
[05:45] <thiebaude> linden940, then let ubuntu search for the drivers and pick the recommended one
[05:45] <datz> Flannel, yea, don't want kubuntu. :)
[05:45] <linden940> its nvidia accelerated graphics driver ver 180
[05:45] <datz> np
[05:45] <Flannel> datz: You're looking for backports?  Yeah, ok, what are some of your other deb https://[url] stuff stuff URLs?  archive.ubuntu.com?  cc.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:45] <linden940> i did that
[05:45] <linden940> it wont work
[05:45] <thiebaude> linden940, i used 180 in 9.04 but now 185 in 9.10
[05:46] <histo> epaphus: you would be limited by the resources on the server ex: if it can't handle running 20 instances of firefox locally its not going to with forwarding X
[05:46] <linden940> i have the recommended one on
[05:46] <sam2> wow.... thanks Billiard..... hopin to have a nice time with ububtu.... will start right away
[05:46] <thiebaude> linden940, what did it say?
[05:46] <BoxMagnet> lilzeus-web, open a pm with me
[05:46] <BoxMagnet> i got an idea for you
[05:46] <sam2> thanks all for your support
[05:46] <epaphus> histo, firefox would run in the remote server.. right?
[05:46] <thiebaude> linden940, gksudo nvidia-settings
[05:46] <linden940> well i am useing the 180
[05:46] <linden940> and it wont work
[05:46] <datz> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/m3460f5a3
[05:46] <histo> epaphus: yeah then it would just forward X over ssh
[05:46] <epaphus> histo, what actually needs installed in the local machine for this?
[05:47] <thiebaude> linden940, can you do that in a terminal?
[05:47] <blenderpc> Question: Best App for managing music and working with Ipod
[05:47] <Flannel> datz: Add this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:47] <histo> epaphus: you'll still need atleast a minimal X server on the local machine then you could forward the apps
[05:47] <histo> epaphus: google X forwarding
[05:47] <Flannel> datz: then save, update, install subversion, and then comment that line out.
[05:48] <histo> epaphus: someone else may know a more modern way like a thin client if thats what you are trying to do?
[05:48] <datz> Flannel, ok thanks
[05:48] <thiebaude> linden940, do you have nvidia-settings?
[05:48] <linden940> yea
[05:48] <linden940> its up
[05:49] <thiebaude> linden940, choose you resolution , hit apply and then save to X configuration
[05:49] <datz> Flannel, great, thanks working. :)
[05:49] <linden940> i have done the save to x configuration and it still wont work
[05:49] <epaphus> histo, right.. but thin clients would be based on this... wouldnt it?
[05:49] <Roasted> question - if I CD into a directory in terminal that I own, why can't I run chmod 775 *.* for all files within the directory? I know I could run chmod -R 775 /media/storage, but if I want /media/storage to have 770, and all contents inside to have 775, that means I have to run chmod -R 775 /media/storage, then chmod 770 /media/storage to get the perms I want. Why cant I run it with *.* in a directory?
[05:49] <linden940> when i reboot its back 2 bein small
[05:49] <thiebaude> linden940, it then save to xorg.conf
[05:49] <linden940> i did that
[05:49] <thiebaude> linden940, your doing something wrong
[05:49] <linden940> let me reboot...let me see if it works now..
[05:49] <thiebaude> ok
[05:50] <mb_again_> roasted: are you trying to change permissions on read only media?
[05:50] <linden940> i have been doing this for like 5+hrs
[05:50] <Billiard> Roasted: you can whats the error?
[05:50] <thiebaude> linden940, wow, too long, nvidia is great with ubuntu
[05:50] <histo> epaphus: no looks liek the way is with LTSP search on help.ubuntu.com for ltsp i'm reading about it now it sounds like what you want.
[05:50] <Roasted> mb_again - No. I just like to have certain permissions on the mount point, and certain permissions on all files inside.
[05:50] <Roasted> billiard - it just says no file or directory.
[05:50] <linden940> lol its not working good 4 me
[05:50] <linden940> ok i will be back in a sec
[05:50] <wizzo50> Hi, is there a program to run to save your data here on Ubuntu as a backup and then reinstall on another computer for Windows 7?
[05:50] <thiebaude> ok
[05:50] <Billiard> Roasted:  are your files in the form *.*
[05:50] <Roasted> billiard - I'm CD'd into the directory, so when I run chmod 775 *.* I figured it would just apply to all contents of the folder.
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> Roasted, don't use "*.*" in unix!  that would mean ONLY files with an extension!  just use * for everything
[05:50] <Roasted> Billiard - I was assuming *.* was the wildcard, including ALL files.
[05:51] <Billiard> Roasted:  * is all file
[05:51] <Roasted> zykotick9 - so if I run chmod  775 * wi thin /media/storage, all files within storage would get 775 perms?
[05:51] <Roasted> damnit I need to stay away from windows :P I use *.* a lot in windows.
[05:51] <histo> epaphus: with LTSP the clients don't need any local storage
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> Roasted, not sure about your specific problem just pointing out the *.* problem
[05:51] <datz> Flannel, lol...still too old. :P
[05:52] <Roasted> zykotick9 - worked with chmod 775 *
[05:52] <Roasted> billiard, mb_again, zykotick9 - thanks!
[05:52] <datz> Flannel, install manually?
[05:52] <Billiard> np
[05:53] <jesse> how can i install vmware surver?
[05:53] <wizzo50> Is there a program to run to save your data here on Ubuntu as a backup and then reinstall on another computer for Windows 7?
[05:54] <epaphus> histo, right..i think thats about the entire difference.. or does the kernel actually load in the RAM of the client vrs the X frowarding loads EVERYTHING from network.. right?
[05:54] <Guest49024> how can i install VMware server?
[05:54] <linden940> same damm thing
[05:54] <linden940> i had the small screen again
[05:55] <Flannel> datz: Still too old?  What version of subversion are you dealing with on the server?
[05:55] <thiebaude> linden940, and you said 180 drivers are installed
[05:55] <linden940> yes they r
[05:55] <Guest49024> i have no ideo...
[05:55] <Guest49024> idea
[05:55] <datz> Flannel, just asked someone to see if they could check out the same project, they could with 1.4.2
[05:55] <thiebaude> linden940, and you did gksudo nvidia-settings
[05:55] <wizzo50> How can I backup my data on here to save when I reinstall ubuntu with Windows?
[05:55] <datz> Flannel, must be some other problem
[05:55] <linden940> yes
[05:56] <Flannel> datz: You're trying to read a directory that's already under version control?
[05:56] <histo> epaphus: Both can accomplish the same thing with X forwarding you will need a X environment on the clients. With LTSP you don't need anything on the clients other than a boot disk to connect tot he LTSP server
[05:56] <Guest49024> how can i install vmware server?
[05:56] <Flannel> datz: As in, someone checked it out, and now you're trying to use it from the disk?
[05:56] <thiebaude> linden940, i dont know
[05:56] <linden940> yea...thats y i have been doing this for hrs now
[05:56] <linden940> lol
[05:56] <mb_again_> !vmware
[05:56] <Guest49024> how can i install vm-ware server?
[05:56] <epaphus> histo, right.. but then again.. the part iam interested is that the kernel gets loaded in the RAM entirely.. would this be right?
[05:56] <histo> wizzo50: do you have somewhere to put your data? like an extra drive or thumb drive etc..?
[05:56] <thiebaude> linden940, you on 9.04?
[05:57] <datz> Flannel, they were able to check out the same source with an older client
[05:57] <Guest49024> what ,an../
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> linden940, in a terminal run "gksudo nvidia-settings" make your changes - then click the save to xorg button -- reboot and it will be saved :)
[05:57] <linden940> yea
[05:57] <Flannel> datz: right, what are you trying to do?
[05:57] <wizzo50> Yea
[05:57] <datz> Flannel "svn update sharelin"
[05:57] <thiebaude> ZykoticK9, he did
[05:57] <linden940> zyk i have done just that a sec again
[05:57] <Ma5t3rw1tt> Hey everyone
[05:57] <wizzo50> histo: yes
[05:57] <histo> epaphus: I don't think LTSP is forwarding the kernel to ram. Its running on the server I believe. But don't quote me i've never used it.
[05:57] <linden940> i have done that like 100times
[05:57] <histo> wizzo50: then just copy the files from your /home/wizzo50 and that will be everything.
[05:57] <Flannel> datz: Try checking out to a new folder
[05:57] <datz> Flannel: svn: This client is too old to work with working copy 'sharelin'.
[05:58] <thiebaude> !envy
[05:58] <datz> yea, I tried updating another project, that worked..
[05:58] <wizzo50> histo: ok
[05:58] <wizzo50> histo: thanks
[05:58] <linden940> this the "preview" of the code being saved
[05:58] <linden940> Section "Monitor"
[05:58] <linden940>     Identifier     "Monitor0"
[05:58] <linden940>     VendorName     "Unknown"
[05:58] <linden940>     ModelName      "LPL"
[05:58] <linden940>     HorizSync       30.0 - 75.0
[05:58] <FloodBot1> linden940: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:59] <linden940> so...what do u think?
[05:59] <histo> epaphus: the easiest way to explain it is its like terminal services
[06:00] <neoneddy> Any Samba Ninjas present ?
[06:01] <datz> Flannel, yea, just rm dir and checking out fresh
[06:01] <epaphus> histo, thank you.. this is just what i need and ive been searching for weeks
[06:02] <histo> epaphus: looks like they are working to make it easier to set up with each release
[06:02] <epaphus> i hope its stable though :)
[06:02] <thiebaude> linden940, i'am puzzled about your problem and have no other options to try
[06:02] <dotjsd> hello channel
[06:03] <linden940> thanks
[06:03] <c0l2e> how can I disable Switch User when I log-out ??
[06:03] <thiebaude> linden940, np
[06:03] <linden940> do u think the 9.10 would fix it?
[06:03] <thiebaude> linden940, i dont know
[06:03] <eltew> Does anyone know how I can map my windows key to open up the Panel menu?  I'm unable to do it unless I use it in combination with another key.
[06:03] <thiebaude> linden940, you'll have the 185 drivers in 9.10
[06:04] <linden940> yea
[06:04] <thiebaude> instead of 180
[06:04] <linden940> is there a ez way 2 update 2 9.10 now?
[06:04] <linden940> *with out doing the iso thing*
[06:04] <thiebaude> linden940, update-manager -d
[06:04] <histo> epaphus: there saying it is
[06:04] <linden940> ty
[06:05] <thiebaude> np
[06:05] <thiebaude> linden940, burning the alternate cd didn't take long for me at all
[06:05] <linden940> upgradeing now
[06:05] <thiebaude> ok
[06:05] <linden940> hope that fixs it
[06:06] <thiebaude> linden940, good luck with it
[06:06] <linden940> thiebaude are u useing amd or intel?
[06:06] <thiebaude> linden940, amd dual core opteron 165
[06:06] <thiebaude> yea, amd
[06:06] <linden940> then u r the same as me
[06:06] <thiebaude> it should work for you
[06:06] <linden940> hmmm i wounder y it dos not work 4 me but it dos 4 u
[06:07] <thiebaude> linden940, i had no problems at all, and i did a fresh install
[06:07] <linden940> well i went from the 8.something 2 this 9.04
[06:07] <linden940> maybe that was part of it?
[06:08] <thiebaude> linden940, i burned ti alternate cd because it has less then 700 mb
[06:08] <linden940> *i had the 8.10 cd...just used that when my pc crashed with windows
[06:08] <thiebaude> the
[06:08] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to recreate a mdadm array on a different PC, and it says "device or resource busy" on each drive, and it can't create it because of that, any ideas?
[06:08] <linden940> hmm
[06:09]  * raid0 back
[06:09] <linden940> wb
[06:10] <linden940> so how is the 9.10?
[06:10] <thiebaude> linden940, its nice
[06:10] <thiebaude> and wobbly windows,lol
[06:10] <linden940> lol
[06:10] <linden940> i like that
[06:10] <linden940> it looks cool an dif
[06:11] <Degot> Hi, all. I have several folders and i want to give several users read/write access to these folders. how can i make this?
[06:11]  * thiebaude goes away
[06:12] <SeaPhor> Degot, are these folders in 1 parent directory?
[06:13] <Degot> SeaPhor, yes, but there are also another folders... problem not in structure....
[06:14] <accid> hmm
[06:14] <accid> im installing ubuntu via virtual pc, when i get to the main screen it does not lalow me to click enter to select INSTALL UBUNTU
[06:14] <Billiard> Degot: change the group of the directories give group rw permissions on the dir, add users to the group
[06:15] <Billiard> accid: you clicked on the virtual pc window to capture the keyboard?
[06:15] <ramkey> is this the place for newbs to ask questions?
[06:16] <Degot> SeaPhor, problem is... if i create group with r/w access and will make chown grpname:grpname then chmod g+w folder.... then, if one of user will create file in this folder, will be able others to change/delete this file ?
[06:16] <Billiard> Degot: not if you set the sticky bit
[06:16] <SeaPhor> Degot, then you create a group, make these users members of that group, chown that parent dir with -R user:newgroup aand then chmod  it with the rights u choose,,, 770 or whatever,,,,
[06:16] <ramkey> i got a question... how do I as the primary admin user write a text file to root/etc/udev?
[06:17] <Degot> Billiard: can you give me info about stricky bit?   link or something
[06:17] <SeaPhor> Degot, yes
[06:17] <Billiard> Degot: wiki: chmod +t dir   then only the dir owner, root, or file owner can delete
[06:17] <infid_> degot sticky bit is mostly for directories, so other users can't rm stuff if they dont own it
[06:17] <ramkey> anyone know how to write a text file to the root?
[06:17] <infid_> degot like how the /tmp behaves
[06:18] <navap> ramkey: `sudo touch file`
[06:19] <Degot> All , thank you...i`ll read wiki about this ))
[06:19] <ramkey> navap, file being my file name?
[06:19] <navap> Yes, if you want to edit it you could do `sudo nano file` instead.
[06:21] <ramkey> Could not save the file /etc/udev/rules.d/60-happuage-pvr2usb.rules.
[06:21] <ramkey> arghhh
[06:21] <tehbaut> in gedit, the drag n' drop scrolling is a bit too sensitive for my tastes
[06:22] <tehbaut> is it possible to customize the sensitivity on that?
[06:25] <Billiard> ramkey: what command did you use
[06:25] <ramkey> sudo touch
[06:25] <Billiard> ramkey: then what
[06:25] <ramkey> i have a simple udev file i want to place so my usb tv card will work in mythtv
[06:25] <ramkey> i already have the text file written and saved on desktop of admin user
[06:26] <ramkey> i can not however, get it to save in the root/etc/udev directory
[06:26] <Billiard> ramkey: you can just move it into the rules.d directory
[06:26] <ramkey> it won't let me
[06:26] <ramkey> and i don't know why
[06:26] <linden940> damm i been up a long time
[06:26] <Billiard> use sudo
[06:29] <ramkey> thanks billaird
[06:29] <ramkey> Billiard
[06:32] <settntrenz> I've got ubuntu running on my ps3 but cannot get sound to work. I'm using HDMI out of ps3 into a yamaha receiver. Sound works out of native ps3. Please see some output http://pastebin.com/d1b912f50 I've tried using asoundconf to select both PS3 and Pulse and messed with the volume control applet and alsamixer to make sure its not muted
[06:32] <settntrenz> Any idea's what to try next?
[06:34] <matyd> my kids got to my desktop today and somehow got the system tray widget spanned out across the whole panel at the bottom of the screen and i can not for the life of me figure out how to resize it down. as it stands right now, i can see any apps i have open because that is taking up the whole panel
[06:34] <matyd> any advice?
[06:34] <Billiard> ramkey: np
[06:34] <Stumpie> I want to build a mini ITX system for my dad, so he can watch youtube, and recive and send his email from his television. is Ubuntu compatible with this kind of graphics card and motherboard?
[06:34] <Stumpie> http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=MB-ION-A-U
[06:34] <matyd> running kubuntu btw
[06:37] <ramkey> where is the better location to put firmware drivers in Ubuntu? /lib/firmware ?
[06:37] <settntrenz> Stumpie: I see the board has HDMI. You may find yourself in a similar debacle as I am right now with ps3 (no sound out of HDMI)
[06:37] <Stumpie> thankyou settntrenz  :)
[06:38] <xenoterracide> does ubuntu or canonical have any kind of page for people who are thinking of upgrading? why it's different? why it's better than the alternatives?
[06:38] <tma> how can i run a check disk on a memory stick formated with fat32?
[06:39] <Stumpie> tma, i think QTparted does scans for fat 16 and fat32
[06:39] <tma> Stumpie,  qtparted?
[06:40] <Stumpie> !qtparted
[06:40] <Stumpie> bummer :(
[06:40] <navap> !partitionmanager
[06:40] <tma> Stumpie, oh, i'm on gnome ... gparted does it too, but i think it doesnt work too god with fat32 partitions
[06:40] <navap> !PartitionManager
[06:42] <tma> Stumpie, was thinking of something like dosfsck
[06:42] <Stumpie> chkdsk
[06:42] <Stumpie> sorry, that probably does not work either
[06:42] <DigitalKiwi> lol eeebuntu is moving to debian? epic
[06:42] <ramkey> hey, supernewb question ... is there a shortcut kkey to get to terminal?
[06:43] <tma> Stumpie, well .... thx anyway
[06:43] <Stumpie> just wait, someone else might know
[06:44] <kupad> fsck
[06:46] <matyd> none of the applications i'm running is showing up in my panel
[06:47] <Rask> Hey guys... easy question about partitioning.  :)  Any advantage to putting the swap partition in front of the root partition, or should one do it the other way round?
[06:48] <navap> Preferably I think they should be on different drives. If they're on the same drive it shouldn't matter which is before the other.
[06:49] <Rask> Well, let me fill in some more details... I'm trying to do software RAID 1.
[06:49] <Rask> Do both drives need a swap partition, or how does that work?
[06:50] <Flannel> Rask: swap is just used instead of RAM, so you only need one
[06:50] <Flannel> Rask: Oh
[06:51] <Flannel> Rask: yeah, I believe both drives need one, because they're mirrored.  But you should have twice the swap?  They certainly don't need to be backed up.  I'm going to back out of this conversation now, since I have no idea what I'm talking about.
[06:52] <Stumpie> !mini ITX
[06:52] <Rask> Hm.  I've never gone through this process before, perhaps I basically pretend like my primary drive is my only drive, then set the second one up to mirror it...
[06:52] <navap> Raiding the swap doesn't make sense to me either, at least not in a raid 1. If it were a raid 5 or something like that then it might make sense. I'm not sure though.
[06:53] <francispereira_> .
[06:53] <jony123> How to i reload fonts
[06:53] <jony123> ?
[06:55] <matt___> i am needing help with the panel in my gui, kids got to it today while i was at work and now i can't see the applications i'm running on it and the widgets take up the whole panel.
[06:55] <matt___> how can i fix this in kubuntu?
[06:55]  * matt___ is a newb
[06:55] <Bluey> matt___: I know how to fix gnome but not kde - sorry
[06:55] <ashutosh> hi any cvs browsing utility in ubuntu?
[06:55] <matt___> so i tried a restart and now identd isnt working heh
[06:56] <matt___> thnx anyway bluey
[06:56] <Bluey> matt___: I've had problems with identd - I solved it by going to nullident
[06:57] <matt___> i'll install that thnx bluey
[06:57] <anoe> hi all, how are u doing
[06:57] <Bluey> matt___: hang on I've a link on how to do it..
[06:57] <matt___> k
[06:57] <Bluey> matt___: try this:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=115
[06:58] <Stumpie> anyone know of a company making mini-itx systems with Ubuntu on them?
[06:58] <KruyKaze> hi ubuntuers! is it safe to buy any bleutooth dongle or will i run into compatibility issues?
[06:58] <Stumpie> depends on the dongle KruyKaze
[06:58] <Stumpie> what brand, and model?
[06:58] <KruyKaze> is there a list of compatible dongles?
[06:58] <matt___> k will give it a look bluey
[06:59] <Stumpie> !comaptible list
[06:59] <KruyKaze> http://www.dinodirect.com/Small-USB-2-0-Bluetooth-Dongle-Adapter-for-PC-Notebook-Laptop-Grey.html
[06:59] <Rask> Stumpie:  logicsupply.com might.
[06:59] <Stumpie> thanks rask :D
[06:59] <Bluey> !hcl | stumpie
[06:59] <Rask> http://www.logicsupply.com/categories/ubuntu_linux_systems  In fact, they do.  :O
[06:59] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: I bought a rocketfish dongle and it worked
[07:00] <KruyKaze> i was looking for the smallest possible
[07:00] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: its super small usb dongle
[07:00] <KruyKaze> like on the link i posted
[07:00] <Rask> Stumpie:  Logic Supply, in my experience, has perhaps not quite the lowest prices ever, but they have excellent, knowledgable support
[07:00] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: so small its a pain to remove actually
[07:00] <KruyKaze> lol
[07:00] <KruyKaze> that's good
[07:00] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: its almost flush when installed
[07:00] <Rask> Stumpie:  Had a DC board fail in a case probably six months after I bought it originally, they shipped a replacement out to me no charge
[07:00] <KruyKaze> rocket fish?
[07:01] <Bluey> KruyKaze: not recommended to folks with arthritis..
[07:01] <settntrenz> yeah, let me see if I can find link
[07:01] <KruyKaze> :D thanks
[07:01] <Stumpie> awesome rask, i want to make a settop box for my dad to watch internet TV, and get email
[07:01] <settntrenz> http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/p-125-rocketfish-micro-bluetooth-21-edr-usb-adapter.aspx
[07:01] <Stumpie> would be nice with a hard disk and DVD burner too :D
[07:01] <anoe> got a question. I am using an asus EEE 901 notebook with ubuntu studio (last version) over ubuntu 9.04. My lcd screen is 1024x600. My problem is, ardour GTK2 uses windows bigger than my resolution size. I've tried to include a virtual 1280 1024 and modes "1024x600" "1200x1024" in xorg.conf, ad xrandr -q list 1200x1024 as a correcto mode, but when using xrandr -s 1200x1024 it says not  available mode. I would like to have a virtual s
[07:01] <anoe> creenn bigger than my real screen, and then moving around with the mouse (like old liinux distros)
[07:02] <KruyKaze> awesome
[07:02] <KruyKaze> how much is it?
[07:02] <settntrenz> anoe: I know its possible (my co-worker has that on his eee) but thats all the help I'll be since I really dislike that mode I've never configured
[07:03] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: Bestbuy had it for like twenty something bucks
[07:03] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: it was in the cell phone section
[07:03] <Crayboff> alright i've got a shell account in another timezone, what's the command to change it to EST?
[07:03] <KruyKaze> is 2.0 good enough for a headset?
[07:04] <Bluey> Crayboff: technically we are still on daylight saving time till nov 1
[07:04] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: not sure, used mine for kb/mouse
[07:05] <Crayboff> Bluey: uhh what?
[07:06] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: USB 2 should be fast enough for even ulaw voice convos
[07:06] <KruyKaze> sweet thanks alot
[07:06] <tstebut> ~pastebin
[07:07] <settntrenz> so, who knows how to make my ps3 HDMI audio work? no sound for my home theatre system kind of defeats the purpose.
[07:07] <Bluey> settntrenz: we're a ubuntu help channel (hence #ubuntu) maybe try --- #ps3 ?
[07:08] <settntrenz> Bluey: joe@ps3buntu:~$ uname -a
[07:08] <settntrenz> Linux ps3buntu 2.6.28-6-powerpc64-smp #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 09:59:41 UTC 2009 ppc64 GNU/Linux
[07:08] <Bluey> settntrenz: you want to change the host name?
[07:09] <settntrenz> Bluey: no. I want my audio to work
[07:09] <Flannel> settntrenz: try #ubuntu-ps3
[07:09] <settntrenz> Flannel: nice! thanks I was wondering if there was a dedicated channel
[07:09] <tstebut> Hello
[07:09] <cew> kihgjhjhjhujj
[07:09] <tstebut> Has anybody already installed an oracle database here ?
[07:10] <tstebut> (I mean on ubuntu)
[07:10] <settntrenz> Flannel: 5 ppl in there :( ::hoping for quality over quantity::
[07:11]  * Bluey doesn't know anyone that has done oracle - except for maybe the seti folks
[07:11] <naruto> hi
[07:11] <settntrenz> tstebut: Sorry can't help. I've only installed 10g Express on CentOS and that was via RPM
[07:13] <tstebut> So is there a way to install RPM packages ??
[07:13] <Bluey> tstebut: on ubuntu -- yes
[07:13] <Bluey> tstebut: i don't honestly remember what I did though.....
[07:13] <tstebut> hah
[07:13] <n8tuser> alien
[07:13] <fantomas> Hi. How to change parameters of connection when connecting using "Connect to server"? For example, I want to change mask, uid, etc when mouting via SSH or FTP
[07:13] <Bluey> n8tuser: tht's it!
[07:13] <tstebut> what is alien
[07:14] <Bluey> !alien
[07:14] <BellinXFelon> how can i prevent attacks on my computer by hackers and unwanted people
[07:14] <Bluey> tstebut: I remember I had to do that with the light scribe package iirc
[07:15] <darthanubis> BellinXFelon, could you be more vague?
[07:15] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: edit hosts.deny to deny all entries
[07:15] <tstebut> hmmmm
[07:15] <duckx0r> i have ubuntu netbook remix installed on one of my netbooks and it worked fine for a while, but now for some reason it doesn't load the panel upon startup or the window manager (i.e. windows don't have any decorations and I can't move, resize, etc). How can I fix this?
[07:15] <darthanubis> BellinXFelon, turn it off
[07:15] <BellinXFelon> darthanubis : specifically, how can I enable my firewall
[07:15] <darthanubis> unhook from the web and lock in closet
[07:16] <histo> !firewall | BellinXFelon
[07:16] <darthanubis> !firewall | BellinXFelon
[07:16] <phantomcircuit> the libtorrent-rasterbar-dev package is broken
[07:16] <phantomcircuit> http://pastebin.com/m2c3dd094
[07:18] <Bluey> "My!  People come and go so quickly here."
[07:19] <alabd> Good day everyone , What are best    mental games for ubuntu ?
[07:19] <darthanubis> !best
[07:19] <nimrod> cant print from acroread
[07:20] <Bluey> nimrod: just acroread?  have you tried other apps?
[07:21] <TheKro> every time I "save and quit" firefox, it seems to quit cleanly, but outputs "segmentation fault".  any idea on how i can trace what's causing that?
[07:22] <Bluey> TheKro: what version?
[07:22] <TheKro> Bluey: 3.0.14
[07:22] <Bluey> TheKro: you might want to upgrade to ff 3.5
[07:22] <nimrod> yep!i can print from document viewer
[07:23] <Bluey> nimrod:  kewl!
[07:23] <nimrod> thanks!
[07:23] <TheKro> Bluey: i'm still on jaunty, with recommended package versions.  last time I tried 3.5 it was a disaster.
[07:23] <darthanubis> lol 3.5 a disaster?
[07:23] <darthanubis> that is just not believable
[07:24] <Bluey> TheKro: :-/ I've had some problems with 3.5 - but not a disaster...
[07:24] <nimrod> will try that.was just wondering if i had to install something for it to print,or maybe it was just my printer.
[07:24] <Bluey> nimrod:  I use document viewer and I've had no problems with it...
[07:25] <nimrod> me too
[07:25] <TheKro> i couldn't exit it at all without killing the process
[07:25] <Bluey> nimrod: and I've a ghetto printer....
[07:25] <Bluey> TheKro: why are you using an older version of ubuntu?
[07:26] <TheKro> older? karmic isn't released yet, AFAIK
[07:27] <nimrod> ghetto printer?
[07:27] <nimrod> lol
[07:27] <Bluey> TheKro: I don't know names just version numbers --
[07:27] <TheKro> well, i've got 9.04
[07:27] <TheKro> which is the "current" version, to my knowledge
[07:27] <Bluey> nimrod:  an hp psc-1315 - about 7 years old now...
[07:28] <BellinXFelon> what else can i do to secure my computer besides activate my firewall?
[07:28] <Bluey> TheKro: okay my bad
[07:28] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: lock down hosts.deny --
[07:28] <BellinXFelon> bluey : how do i do that
[07:28] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : how do I do that
[07:29] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: I have this line in my hosts.deny --
[07:29] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: ALL	:	ALL EXCEPT LOCA
[07:29] <Bluey> oops  ALL	:	ALL EXCEPT LOCAL
[07:29] <SpiceMan> BellinXFelon: man hosts_access
[07:29] <nimrod> was not even in the IT..far.
[07:29] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : I am new to linux, how can i open the file to edit
[07:30] <SpiceMan> BellinXFelon: you want to read the manual before editing stuff
[07:30] <SpiceMan> BellinXFelon: or you're going to need to reinstall linux over and over :P
[07:30] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: first make a backup copy of the file -- sudo cp /etc/hosts.deny hosts.deny.org (or something you will remember)
[07:31] <histo> Anyway to see if the installer is doing anything?  Its sitting at "Setting up parittioner" Scanning disks 47% just stuck there
[07:31] <jasonmchristos> hello, would someone please tell me why autocomplete of email addreses is not working in ubuntu jaunty under evolution?
[07:31] <maco> jasonmchristos: do you have it enabled for your address books? (i havent used evo in almost a year so i dont know where that setting is anymore, sorry)
[07:32] <Bluey> jasonmchristos: sorry I use thunderbird - don't know...
[07:32] <jasonmchristos> maco: yes it is enabled marked
[07:32] <jasonmchristos> maco: do you use thunderbird aswell?
[07:32] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : ok
[07:32] <maco> jasonmchristos: no, i use kmail
[07:33] <maco> jasonmchristos: well really, all of kontact... kmail, kaddressbook, korganizer...
[07:33] <jasonmchristos> i se
[07:33] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: next gksudo /etc/hosts.deny then add that line -- ALL	:	ALL EXCEPT LOCAL
[07:33] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: that's easier then using nano --
[07:33] <jasonmchristos> does anyone know why ubuntu comes default with evolution instead of tbird
[07:33] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : done
[07:34] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: save and exit
[07:34] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : how do I save
[07:34] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : restart?
[07:34] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: NO
[07:34] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: just file and save
[07:34] <Stumpie> I was about to pay for a usenet account, then I realized, perhaps I could set up a usenet server, and log in for free with ubuntu? Can I make a Usenet server? TIA
[07:35] <wrapster> where will the 64bit libs be present? /usr/lib/amd64 ?
[07:35] <wrapster> is it the only location or anywhere else ?
[07:35] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: think NOTEPAD
[07:35] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : thank you
[07:36] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : it had me install save
[07:36] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: you control who access your machine through hosts.allow
[07:36] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: what?
[07:36] <fantomas> How to cofigure Nautilus and specifically its Connect to server feature?
[07:36] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: it's just like notepad in windows - file/save
[07:36] <spaghetti> Stumpie: Yes, you can make what you call a "Usenet server"
[07:36] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : ALL : ALL EXCEPT LOCAL
[07:36] <BellinXFelon> oops
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> The program 'save' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> sudo apt-get install atfs
[07:37] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: you put that in the file yes?
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : yes
[07:37] <fufu> Q: the install updates screen that comes up when OS starts.. why is it that there are so many updates all the time? if i update today.. i know im going to get more tomorrow. and some of those files are 5mb 8mb.. I dont even have a lot of programs on my computer..so whats up with the updates?
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : in terminal
[07:37] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: i've never heard of atfs
[07:37] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: private message ok?
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : yea sure
[07:38] <Billiard> fufu: are you using the beta?
[07:38] <fufu> are those updates legit?
[07:38] <fufu> i dont know
[07:38] <fufu> how do i check
[07:38] <Rebelstar> hello ppl, i need some help. i installed ubuntu 9.04..everything was working fine, i wanted root access, so i modified some file based on a suggestion in some forum and i restarted the system to find that the audio is not working. what can i do ?
[07:38] <fufu>  Ubuntu 9.04
[07:38] <fufu>                 - the Jaunty Jackalope - released in April 2009.
[07:38] <fufu>
[07:38] <fufu> thats what i have...
[07:39] <Billiard> fufu: thats the latest release, you get updates when programs are updated is thats just how it is
[07:40] <astrid> Hello, I need a bit of help with fluxbox startup scripting
[07:40] <fufu> how much updates do you get though? I understand updates but sometimes I wander if the programs are legit.. because some of the files are so big
[07:40] <Angel-SL> Hey.
[07:40] <Rebelstar> hello ppl, i need some help. i installed ubuntu 9.04..everything was working fine, i wanted root access, so i modified some file based on a suggestion in some forum and i restarted the system to find that the audio is not working. what can i do ?
[07:40] <Billiard> Rebelstar: change taht file back
[07:41] <fufu> And these updates have names that no-one can understand..
[07:41] <Rebelstar> i did that
[07:41] <Billiard> Rebelstar: what file
[07:41] <Rebelstar> but still it is not working
[07:41] <Angel-SL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297323/ How to fix?
[07:41] <Billiard> fufu: names like what?
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: you dont NEED root access, you have sudoi and gksudo. Did you not read those on your forums too?
[07:41] <Angel-SL> Rebelstar: sudo passwd
[07:41] <Angel-SL> set the password
[07:41] <Angel-SL> and su up.
[07:41] <Angel-SL> :|
[07:41] <FloodBot1> Angel-SL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <Rebelstar> it was not in this forum
[07:41] <Rebelstar> it was a blog
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> !root | Rebelstar
[07:41] <fufu> lib files
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: i'd reinstall and stay off root
[07:42] <Rebelstar> is there no other way
[07:42] <fufu> Billiard: ok check this out. I open my update manager and there is 115MB of checked updates..
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> if you can't undo what you did and its a fresh install i'd say cut your losses
[07:43] <fufu> How is that normal?
[07:43] <Billiard> Rebelstar: what file did you change that made you lose audio
[07:43] <Billiard> fufu: what are the updates for?
[07:44] <fufu> The heading of the updates is "important security updates"
[07:44] <Rebelstar> i did this
[07:44] <Rebelstar>      	 		 			Login as Root on Ubuntu 9.04 			August 12, 2009 in LInux,  Ubuntu | Tags: access root, login as root, login ubuntu, root, root access, root login ubuntu, root ubuntu			 		 		 			Basically in all linux OS we can access root for login. But in ubuntu by default that option is not enabled. if you want to have root login then you have to do some hack on ubuntu OS   Just follow the below step for login as root. And do everything as you want   . S
[07:44] <Rebelstar> sorry
[07:44] <naruto> ghina
[07:44] <fufu> a lot of the files start with lib*
[07:44] <Angel-SL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297323/ How to fix?
[07:44] <Guest11562> dd
[07:45] <Billiard> Rebelstar: what file did you change
[07:45] <ElijahCMenifee> fufu, Depends on what all is being updated the used diskspace afterwards can either go up or down based on the size difference of the new packages, you make have to download 200meg but after appling the removal of the old versions may gain you a net 10meg of additional space.
[07:45] <Rebelstar>  sudo gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:45] <Rebelstar> gdm.conf
[07:45] <astrid> I tried the #fluxbox but nobody is there. I added to the startup script in .fluxbox a few lines to restart alsa and set the volumes to unmute, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.
[07:45] <Rebelstar> set  AllowRoot=false to true
[07:46] <ElijahCMenifee> Rebelstar, please use pastbin or provide link to url
[07:46] <JabberWalkie> Rebelstar: enabling the root user is not supported on this channel
[07:46] <Rebelstar> http://saeed05.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/login-as-root-on-ubuntu-9-04/
[07:46] <Rebelstar> here it is
[07:46] <Billiard> Rebelstar: that shouldnt affect audio
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: have you noticed how all ubuntu guides contain the word sudo ?
[07:46] <Rebelstar> yes
[07:46] <Billiard> Rebelstar: i wouldnt log in as root though
[07:46] <Rebelstar> after this istarted using sudo
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: do you know what that is?
[07:46] <astrid> Rebelstar: Have you noticed that everyone is telling you not to log in as root? Wow. It's quite incredible.
[07:46] <Rebelstar> to get ownership
[07:47] <Billiard> Rebelstar: did you change something while logged in as root
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: its the entire reason you never need root, the account is actually disabled by default
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: sudo gives you the equivelant power of root without needing the account
[07:47] <ramkey> anyone know how to fix the ATi HD4650 driver problem?
[07:47] <Rebelstar> sorry i dint know that wheni changed it for the first time
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: so you now never need root
[07:47] <Rebelstar> sudo should be fine now
[07:48] <Angel-SL> Erm, anyone? > http://paste.ubuntu.com/297323/ how to fix?
[07:48] <Rebelstar> but audio is the problem..i need it back
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: it is and always will be but you will never need to log in as root, o even touch the account
[07:48] <Rebelstar> :(
[07:48] <ElijahCMenifee> Well ActionParsnip I would never say never, I do have a legitamate reason for root login(never no when ldap is going to go down with no actaul local users...)
[07:48] <Billiard> Rebelstar: what did you change while logged in as root?
[07:48] <fufu> Ok it shows 80MB of "Important security Updates" i will install all of them and restart my comp..i will see if it gives me more "Security updates"
[07:49] <Rebelstar> well infact i could not login as root after following that step,,,so i restared
[07:49] <Rebelstar> the system
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: if you run: sudo lshw -C sound
[07:49] <Rebelstar> and audio was out
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: will tell you the sound chip, you can then set it up as if it never worked
[07:49] <fufu> libicu38, libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-data.. hows  a regular user suppose to understand that..
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: i'd say, use sudo -s     gives a root shell, there is no need for root
[07:50] <Rebelstar> i got this
[07:50] <Rebelstar> sudo lshw -C sound
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: use a pastebin
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[07:50] <Rebelstar>  description: Audio device
[07:50] <Rebelstar>        product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[07:50] <Rebelstar>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[07:50] <Rebelstar>        physical id: 1b
[07:50] <Rebelstar>        bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
[07:50] <Rebelstar>        version: 03
[07:50] <FloodBot1> Rebelstar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:50] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, not if there is no local user, and user credentials are on the LDAP server that just when belly up, its either root or hope you hace live-Cd handy...
[07:51] <ramkey> did ATI/AMD stop support of linux drivers?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: true but very specific. I'd at least have 1 user on each system
[07:51] <ramkey> did ati/amd stop supporting linux drivers?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: i told you to use a pastebin
[07:52] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, I do have one user on every system (root ;0) but I have been sysadmining for a long long time...
[07:52] <Rebelstar> sorry ,using for the first time..sorry
[07:52] <Rebelstar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297325/
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: i'd have a non root account instad which can sudo, but thats just m
[07:54] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, Depending on the problem single user boot as root can be very useful, system requires a root user even if by default it was disabled.
[07:54] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, Emergency backdoor access for production servers is very useful.
[07:55] <Bluey> backdoor conjures up the wrong images....
[07:55] <Rebelstar>  ActionParsnip, pls find the output i got in http://paste.ubuntu.com/297325/
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: ok but for a desktop user who has just installed?
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: yeah i read it, just web searching
[07:57] <X2daYfDaBYcA> how can I get mkv support in vlc
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | X2daYfDaBYcA
[07:57] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, In complete agreement with you there only needed as specific circumstances(i did say never say never....) , as I have said been sysadmining long time and have been bitten by a disabled root account for emergency hardware/software repair
[07:57] <Bluey> okay off for awhile - but I did enjoy this:  http://www.bash.org/?905833
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: how can we modprobe "HDA Intel" ?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: as it has a space
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> think i got it
[07:59] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, I would rename the file to HDA_Intel
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: try this:
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel; sleep 2; sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: appears it has a different real module name
[08:01] <Rebelstar> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/297326/, i get error
[08:01] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, On my local box(karmic) their is a snd-hda-intel.ko available
[08:01] <icarus-c> how to request a new IP from dhcp?  (or can i?)
[08:01] <kusanagi_> is there anyway to force whatever is using swap memory to use regular memory?
[08:02] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, Note the - not the _
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> icarus-c: sudo dhclient <interface name>
[08:02] <naruto> hi
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: you can set swappiness higher and lower, higher = more swap space used, lower = system tries to keep processes in ram
[08:03] <icarus-c> ActionParsnip: would that really change a new IP?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: otherwise the kernel will analyse the activities and swap what is needed
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> icarus-c: you would request a new IP, weather or not its different or the same is up to the dhcp server
[08:04] <kusanagi_> ActionParsnip, my comp is going really slow lately (dunno why) but i noticed im using 20% of swap and the regular ram memory is only at 60%... could that be it?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: possibly, how much ram do you have?
[08:04] <kusanagi_> 2Gb
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> thats loads, my most powerful pc has that
[08:05] <ziroday> kusanagi_: are you running a VM of any sort?
[08:05] <kusanagi_> ziroday, no
[08:05] <kusanagi_> can i send watever is in swap to ram?
[08:05] <ziroday> kusanagi_: can you pastebin the output of free -m please
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: run: gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[08:06] <ziroday> kusanagi_: also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Performance%20tuning%20with%20%27%27swappiness%27%27
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: search for vm.swappiness        and change it to vm.swappiness=10
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: you can then save the file and run: sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=10    to save having to reboot
[08:06] <kusanagi_> http://pastebin.com/d2aa4a9d1
[08:07] <mneptok> kusanagi_: or run "sudo swapoff -a"
[08:07] <ziroday> kusanagi_: hardly any of your swap is used, I doubt that's the reason for your computer being slow
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: you can run: top     to see whats using most cpu
[08:07] <kusanagi_> firefox without a doubt
[08:08] <mneptok> kusanagi_: or install htop, which is a bit more featureful
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> yep, firefox is garbage
[08:08] <kusanagi_> but ive used ff with more tabs than i currently have and it wasnt this slow
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> firefox uses more cou that: yes > /dev/null
[08:08] <kusanagi_> maybe a tab is leaking or sumthing?
[08:09] <mneptok> kusanagi_: do you have Flash content being displayed?
[08:09] <kusanagi_> only 1 video
[08:09] <kusanagi_> and its a 10 min youtube video
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: i'd try the swappiness thing, you have a lot of ram to fly at so you should be ok
[08:09] <mneptok> kusanagi_: that's enough. Adobe's Flash implementation for Linux leaves a lot to be desired.
[08:10] <kusanagi_> :/ can a tab be leaking and causing all this?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> i wish adobe would get smart and open up flash
[08:10] <kusanagi_> ActionParsnip, we all do
[08:10] <mneptok> kusanagi_: get rid of the Flash
[08:10] <mneptok> kusanagi_: i'll wager that's it
[08:10] <Rebelstar> ActionParsnip: it says ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: also reduce plugins and skins too, they take up ram too
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: hmm
[08:11] <kusanagi_> i restarted ff and its ok now
[08:11] <kusanagi_> i guess i wont be able to detect what was it now
[08:11] <kusanagi_> but in a few hours is gonna be again slow
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: thats the module (and sub modules that help it) that give you sound
[08:11] <mneptok> kusanagi_: open *only* that video
[08:11] <kusanagi_> ive been like this for 2 days
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: maybe your card needs so extra options
[08:12] <kusanagi_> thanks guys :D
[08:12] <Rebelstar> ActionParsnip: one more thing, when i say audio is out,there is still buzz sound
[08:12] <skx> I am trying to compile and install kydpdict but running into a problem I can't debug (at the end of the log, obviously) http://pastebin.com/d46f24249, any idea?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: are the sliders cranked high?
[08:12] <Rebelstar> yes
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: for volume
[08:12] <indus> hello folks
[08:12] <Rebelstar> yes
[08:12] <kusanagi_> btw, when is a going to run flash smoothly on linux? :(
[08:13] <skx> kusanagi_, never, flash sux
[08:13] <indus> probably when 11 comes out
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: ask adobe, they hold the key
[08:13] <kusanagi_> skx, we are doom then
[08:13] <kusanagi_> coz everthing is flash
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> or java
[08:13] <skx> I don't feel doomed nor compelled to watch hd movies in flash
[08:13] <skx> anyway, I am trying to compile and install kydpdict but running into a problem I can't debug (at the end of the log, obviously) http://pastebin.com/d46f24249, any ideas? :)
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> firefox 3.7 makes it use less but its flakier than colin the lepper
[08:15] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: Adobe opening Flash will not help much
[08:15] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: the code is beyond crufty, and has significant amounts of ASM
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: but it surely can be analysed and made nicer
[08:15] <kusanagi_> ActionParsnip, can we like buy it the patent and make it free?
[08:15] <kusanagi_> cant*
[08:15] <ziroday> I'm sure donating (time. money, cookies) to the gnash project would help
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: mozilla did it with the code for nutscrape
[08:16] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: how many skilled ASM coders do you know? how many of them want to work on AV crap in their free time?
[08:16] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: Netscape was not ASM
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: its was a joke, none really but i get your point
[08:16] <Rebelstar> ActionParsnip::shall i reinstall ubuntu
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: it is a step in the right direction though
[08:16] <mneptok> C-variant coders are cheap and plentiful. ASM ... not so much.
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: i would if no one else can advise. I'm not so good at sound card stuff
[08:17] <Rebelstar> ActionParsnip:thanks a lot for ur help
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: np man
[08:17] <kusanagi_> Rebelstar, i dont know what sound issues did u have
[08:17] <kusanagi_> but im gonna tell what gave the sound back
[08:18] <jabagawee> oh no, my zipfile is corrupt because it has 50GB of extra data in it
[08:18] <kusanagi_> rm ~/.pulse*
[08:18] <jabagawee> incidentally, it should contain a 50GB file, that i really really need
[08:18] <jabagawee> how can i get it out?
[08:18] <xim_> how can i modify the contents of a text (config) file automatically from a shell script?
[08:18] <kusanagi_> jabagawee, what kind of file is in the zip?
[08:19] <jabagawee> it was the Documents/ folder of an old computer
[08:19] <jabagawee> with a truecrypt archive
[08:19] <xim_> is there a shell command which finds lines of text and replaces them?
[08:19] <jabagawee> that i basically dumped everything in
[08:19] <Rebelstar> kusanagi: i http://paste.ubuntu.com/297329/
[08:19] <Billiard> xim_: sed
[08:19] <Rebelstar> kusanagi: iget that msg
[08:19] <jabagawee> exact error: http://pastebin.com/m50494a
[08:19] <xim_> Billiard: thx
[08:20] <necromnicon> does anyone know of a good Usenet download program that supports video streaming?
[08:20] <kusanagi_> jabagawee,  :S if its encripted i dont know if thats possible
[08:20] <jabagawee> kusanagi_, the zipfile isn't encrypted. but there's a tc archive inside the zip
[08:20] <Finnish> Any kdenlive users around? I can't render to ogg today, but yesterday it was possible?
[08:20] <jabagawee> and it's of ridiculous importance to get that truecrypt folder out
[08:20] <ziroday> Finnish: tried running it through the terminal and spotting any error messages printed to it?
[08:20] <kusanagi_> yeah jabagawee but the file inside is encrypted.... that means u cant recover any part of anything
[08:20] <skx> xim_, depending on what you want to do http://www.liamdelahunty.com/tips/linux_search_and_replace_multiple_files.php
[08:21] <jabagawee> kusanagi_, can't we just assume that it's a giant 50GB blob of binary data
[08:21] <jabagawee> and extract it?
[08:21] <jabagawee> i have my password and such, that's no issue
[08:22] <jabagawee> but the zip around it is corrupt
[08:22] <freetime> hi , i have a problem when i do /etc/init.d/networck restart i get th no mount to host
[08:22] <freetime> how to slove this
[08:23] <kusanagi_> jabagawee,  :S well, sorry i have no idea.... but id say i have lost it if it were mine
[08:23] <jabagawee> kusanagi_, wait, what's the issue that's stopping recovery? if my zipfile were corrupted with a 50GB txt file in it, would that make a difference?
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> freetime: so the error is: "No mount to host" ?
[08:24] <kusanagi_> yeah... u cant recover that file
[08:24] <Yuttadhammo> hey there, I have a problem with Ubuntu Server 9.04... when I run netstat -lu  it gives: netstat: no support for `AF INET (udp)' on this system.  How do I add UDP support?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> freetime: is that right?
[08:25] <freetime> o sory no route to host
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> o kthats cool
[08:25] <kusanagi_> jabagawee, i mean, i am no expert, but if something is missing u cant recover that file
[08:25] <kusanagi_> dont give up coz im no expert
[08:25] <kusanagi_> but...
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> freetime: if you run: cat /etc/hostname; cat /etc/hosts
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> freetime: is your hostname in the hosts file to resolve to <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[08:26] <freetime> no
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> freetime: does it say:   <IP_ADDRESS>     localhost
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> freetime: and: <IP_ADDRESS>     <your hostname>
[08:27] <freetime> yes
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> freetime: ok can you ping your router's ip?
[08:28] <freetime> no i can't it ping
[08:28] <Xaifas> Hey i used "gconftool-2 –type bool –set /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop false" to turn my desktop off so i can use a screen saver as wallpaper but now i can't seem to manage to turn it back on, any ideas?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> freetime: if you set a suitable static IP address for the interface can you ping?
[08:29] <jasonmchristos> ActionParsnip: is always in here giving solid support u would think he was bieng pais
[08:29] <freetime> my ip adress i can ping but other no
[08:29] <Neriko> I've got an issue.
[08:29] <Neriko> It needs fixin'
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> jasonmchristos: i wish ;)
[08:29] <Xaifas> "gconftool-2 -s /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop -t bool true && nautilus" seems to get it back but its only runing while the terminal is runing .. if i close terminal its not working again
[08:30] <pshr_> how to remove default applications that a particular file is opening with, previously i did .chm file to open with nautilus and now when ever i open .chm file it defaults to nautilus giving me a error ?
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> freetime: if you set an ip address that is appropriate for your LAN as well as the router IP for the default gateway, can you ping then
[08:30] <Neriko> I had two different 'buntu distros; I deleted one, and now I need to resize the other to occupy the whole hard drive. How
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> pshr_: right click the file _> select open with then select other. You can now choose the app and tell the system to remember the association
[08:31] <Neriko> How the hell do I do this.
[08:31] <Billiard> Neriko: gparted can resize partitions
[08:31] <Neriko> Hiya Billiard. This is nightone
[08:32] <freetime> no i cant;t it ping
[08:32] <Billiard> Neriko: k
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> freetime: is it wired or wireless?
[08:32] <freetime> is wired
[08:32] <Neriko> Umm, I deleted the other partition, so can I still resize the partition while I'm on it?
[08:32] <pshr_> ActionParsnip, there is no option to check  remember the app, it just opens up with chmviewer thats all
[08:32] <freetime> cable i check
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> !defaulapp
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> freetime: try a different port on the router too
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> freetime: also try a diferent cable as that may be bad
[08:33] <pshr_> ActionParsnip, got it :)
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> pshr_: good lad
[08:33] <Billiard> Neriko: probably not, use a live cd or a gparted cd
[08:34] <tasdawg> Gday all how can make a virtual serial port? send a 'file' to it and have another program pick it up and read it? Please in need of real help
[08:34] <Neriko> So how do i resize it using a the live cd?
[08:34] <pshr_> Is there an Ovi suite (Nokia) for Linux, its turning out to be only reason why i am still having dual boots of XP and Ubuntu
[08:34] <Neriko> I did it once upon a time. No clue how I did it though.
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Neriko: boot to live cd, run: gksudo gparted    and you can resize as you wish there
[08:35] <tasdawg> pshr_ obex GUI, sync as well
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Neriko: make sure your backs are recent just in case
[08:35] <Neriko> hmm.
[08:35] <Neriko> ok
[08:36] <necromnicon> does anyone know of a good Usenet download program that supports video streaming?
[08:36] <tasdawg> anyone know about pty and tty simulating ??
[08:36] <Bodsda> Hi, I have installed a lamp server and unziped phpbb3 but when I browse to localhost/phpBB3/install/index.php it attempts to download the file instead of displaying it. What am I doing wrong?
[08:36] <necromnicon> or a video player that supports rar files
[08:36] <tasdawg> Badsda: RealRipper
[08:36] <Billiard> Bodsda: install/enable php
[08:36] <Bodsda> tasdawg:
[08:36] <Bodsda> tasdawg: huh?
[08:36] <tasdawg> sorry necromanicon
[08:37] <Shurick> hi all
[08:38] <tasdawg> Badsda: check your config file, you might have php files set as a comment(by default it will only display html, htmls)
[08:38] <Bodsda> Billiard: ah, I had php5-common but not php5 -- my bad, ty
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> necromnicon: you can open the rar and double click the content, it will be opened to temp whil it is played
[08:38] <necromnicon> ActionParsnip: cool thanks
[08:39] <tasdawg> Noone knows about ttyS* or ptyt* ???? simulating a serial port?
[08:39] <fufu> i downloaded an installation file, it opened in archive manager. How do I install it?
[08:40] <tasdawg> fufu: make it exec
[08:40] <Shurick> small question regarding acer notebook with wifi atheros 2425 chipset: is there any solution to fight with pure net performance and constant reconnects to AP?
[08:40] <tasdawg> fufu: chmod +x installfile && ./installfile
[08:41] <fufu> what does the installfile look lke>?
[08:41] <infid_> can i permanently mount a windows/samba public folder, so i don't have to enter a password to access it all the time?
[08:41] <fufu> does it end with .sh?
[08:41] <tasdawg> fufu: the name of the file u downloaded
[08:41] <tasdawg> a install file (bin) can be blah.bin, blah.sh, blah
[08:42] <tasdawg> infid_: yes you Network map it (make a hard link(your file manager should have the option)
[08:44] <infid_> tasdawg: by rightclicking on the folder and choosing 'make link'?
[08:44] <fufu> should i install programs on /opt folder?
[08:45] <infid_> fufu 3rd party stuff maybe
[08:45] <fufu> i wannt to install komodo
[08:45] <fufu> edit
[08:46] <Nukeador> Hi
[08:46] <Bluey> hello
[08:46] <Nukeador> I'm having problems when installing snort 2.8, it's unable to detect that eth0 is a valid interface. I get an error telling me that it isn't.
[08:48] <infid_> fufu are you sure i dont need to list it in /etc/fstab?
[08:49] <fufu> uh.. i already installed it in /opt folder
[08:49] <fufu> will other users see my opt folder?
[08:50] <fufu> i want them to use the program also
[08:50] <infid_> others have read perms by default on /opt
[08:50] <infid_> and execute
[08:50] <fufu> ok good
[08:52] <infid_> what's a decent gui browser for ubuntu that's in the normal repos besides firefox
[08:52] <Bluey> infid_: well firefox is a browser not a gui
[08:52] <infid_> it's a gui based browser, as opposted to a text browser
[08:52] <Bluey> infid_: other browsers would be stuph like opera or konqueror
[08:53] <infid_> i'll try konq, i dont think opera would be in the public repos since it's proprietary
[08:53] <Bluey> infid_: oh you were thinking lynx forgot that
[08:53] <fufu> what does this mean "Once the installer has finished, add Komodo to your   PATH :  Add Komodo/bin to your PATH directly:       export PATH=<installdir>/bin:$PATH "
[08:53] <abhifx> infid_, try seamonkey or opera
[08:53] <d9500> infid_: midori and arora are both gui browsers. not sure about midori, but arora uses the qt toolkit, so it will also install some qt libraries when you install it (worth noting if you want to use gtk only apps)
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> !browser | infid_
[08:54] <Bluey> well I can get opera from the repos
[08:54] <fufu> do i just type "export PATH=<installdir>/bin:$PATH" into the terminal?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> infid_: theres chromium too
[08:54] <Bluey> true
[08:54] <infid_> is that like linux's version of google chrome
[08:55] <Bluey> infid_: yes
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> infid_: its not bad, doesnt do quakelive though so its not for me
[08:56] <Bluey> i think the flock browser is also avail. for linux let me check
[08:56] <tstebut> Hello I got a problem , look , if  I do simple "id" as oracle, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=0(root),4(adm),1003(oinstall),1004(dba)
[08:56] <samushka> im having trouble compiling an application, getting the error msg: No package 'qtwebkit-sharp' found
[08:56] <tstebut> But if I do a "id oracle" as any, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=1003(oinstall),4(adm),1004(dba)
[08:56] <tstebut> Why do I get root as secondary group on case 1 ?
[08:56] <Bluey> yup - http://www.flock.com/
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> infid_: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[08:56] <tstebut> hello
[08:57] <tstebut> HI ?
[08:57] <tstebut> Sorry I've been disconnected
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> infid_: you will need to work out the import of the GPG key
[08:57] <Bluey> tstebut: sup?
[08:57] <tstebut> Does anybody answered to my question ?
[08:57] <tstebut> If  I do simple "id" as oracle, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=0(root),4(adm),1003(oinstall),1004(dba)
[08:57] <tstebut> But if I do a "id oracle" as any, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=1003(oinstall),4(adm),1004(dba)
[08:57] <tstebut> Why do I get root as secondary group on case 1 ?
[08:57]  * Bluey is not the oracle guy - sorry....
[08:57] <tstebut> No but its about user/group thing
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> infid_: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5   the key
[08:58] <tstebut> The question is
[08:58] <tstebut> Why the .... do I get root as secondary group on case 1 ?
[08:58] <fufu> awesome i installed my first program and configured the path SWEETTT thnks mods
[08:59] <nooneelse> tstebut, you're talking about what ?
[08:59] <Esnaque> hi
[08:59] <Esnaque> can you check your gnome clock and set show seconds
[08:59] <Esnaque> ?
[09:00] <Esnaque> time goes by so slowly
[09:00] <Esnaque> or seconds are skkiped
[09:00] <Esnaque> it seems a general problem
[09:01] <tstebut> Case 1 : I do simple "id" as oracle, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=0(root),4(adm),1003(oinstall),1004(dba)
[09:01] <Mannan> ey guys, i have just installed ubuntu desktop 9.04 (for the 10th time) and i was wondering if there is anyway i can save its current state (something like Windows Xp System Restore). i want to be able to 'rollback' to a previous restore point just in case i mess up anything because i am new to linux
[09:02] <Esnaque> could anyone check the option "Show seconds" in gnome clock?? Something is going wrong.
[09:02] <iceroot> if i create a file in /etc/cron.d/  will cron automaticly detect the new job? so that i just can put file with the string 5 * * * * * sh test.sh   in it?
[09:03] <Esnaque> anda y q os den
[09:03] <Jonathan_Glam> Hi, I keep getting the following error whilst trying to update: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 632D16BB0C713DA6W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 632D16BB0C713DA6
[09:04] <Jonathan_Glam> How can I fix this error. Happening when loading packages in Add/Remove and in other things
[09:05] <fufu> whats the command for deleting a non-empty directory?
[09:06] <histo> rm -rf
[09:06] <histo> fufu: ^^^^^^^^^^
[09:07] <tstebut> Case 2 :  I do a "id oracle" as any, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=1003(oinstall),4(adm),1004(dba)
[09:07] <tstebut> Result is not the same, what could explain this (it's all about user/group on Ubuntu)
[09:07] <tstebut> Well forget about oracle....it's an example....what I want is to remove group root from user oracle ....(!)...
[09:07] <fufu> the rm -rf worked
[09:07] <fufu> thanks histo
[09:07] <tstebut> Sorry I was disconnecter...again....
[09:08] <tstebut> Did someone answered to my question ?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> !gpgerr
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> jonathan_glam: see above, the <key> is the last 8 characters in the output of the code you get in your error
[09:09] <Jonathan_Glam> ok thanks ActionParsnip
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Jonathan_Glam: you can also get the big key file from the same page you got the ppa from but this achieves the same end
[09:11] <Jonathan_Glam> ActionParsnip worked. Wonderful, thanks!
[09:12] <X2daYfDaBYcA> I am having trouble with pulseaudio playback, how can i fix it
[09:12] <kraut> moin
[09:13] <X2daYfDaBYcA> when i try to play a matroska video file, there is no sound due to something wrong with pulseaudio
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Jonathan_Glam: np bro, same with all gpg errors, could script it ;)
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Jonathan_Glam: instead of a code put $1, you can then send the script the code to get the key for :D
[09:13] <d3xter> hey guys
[09:17] <l314> i'm looking to install fluxbox
[09:17] <tkm> maxi1973
[09:18] <rsk> l314: sudo apt-get install fluxbox in a terminal does
[09:18] <l314> rsk, thank you i was trying get-apt
[09:18] <l314> lol
[09:18] <WackyHyena> helo
[09:19] <preecher> i use ubuntu 9.04 if i wait to the release date for stable 9.10 can i just update to it or do it be a whole new install
[09:19] <MenZa> You can just update it, preecher
[09:20] <preecher> thx
[09:20] <MenZa> preecher: The day it's released, a nice little button will show up in update-manager saying "New release available"
[09:20] <fcuk112_> what's so good about fluxbox?
[09:20] <WackyHyena> is it possible to see a list of recently added applications for ubuntu? like a list of brand new applications that were recently released?
[09:20] <WackyHyena> i want to see what new things I can use
[09:21] <rsk> WackyHyena: using 9.04 ?
[09:21] <WackyHyena> no, 9.10
[09:21] <rsk> then use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic
[09:21] <rsk> also #ubuntu+1 for karmic discussion
[09:23] <de_amore_imah> i'm use ubuntu 8.04, can I update to 9.10,..
[09:23] <l314> rsk: and its sudo apt-get install xfce
[09:23] <rsk> de_amore_imah: yes
[09:23] <rsk> de_amore_imah: update to 8.10 then 9.04 then to 9.10
[09:23] <de_amore_imah> wOw,..  but,I'm affraid make my ubuntu demage,...
[09:24] <rsk> de_amore_imah: then don't do it
[09:24] <de_amore_imah> ??????
[09:24] <rsk> ????
[09:24] <alabd> Is there any download manager for ubuntu that if internet has been disconnected we can continue it next time ?
[09:24] <rsk> why should you be afraid
[09:24] <de_amore_imah> hah? mean?
[09:24] <kran> hello
[09:24] <rsk> alabd: use wget with the -c option for resume
[09:25] <rsk> kran hi
[09:25] <l314> is it sudo apt-get install xfce
[09:25] <rsk> for installing fluxbox?
[09:25] <rsk> no that installs xfce
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install xfce4
[09:26] <de_amore_imah> how size for update it until to fix 9.10???
[09:26] <l314> yes thats what i want i want both thank you
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> rsk: for fluxbox its: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[09:26] <rsk> de_amore_imah: hm a few gigabytes
[09:26] <rsk> ActionParsnip: what?
[09:26] <de_amore_imah> 2GB?
[09:26] <rsk> de_amore_imah: probably more
[09:26] <de_amore_imah> enough,..
[09:26] <Jonathan_Glam> Hi, I was wondering. Is there a thing that is similar to Cairodock, but only pops up when I click something, say Alt-Tab. Kind of like in this thing at 0.55seconds in: http://www.break.com/index/it-guy-vs-dumb-employees.html:
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> rsk: its the command to run to install fluxbox
[09:27] <de_amore_imah> hhahhh,...    :'(
[09:27] <rsk> sure, but why would you say that to me
[09:27] <Jonathan_Glam> is there a way to get that to work?
[09:27] <l314> ActionParsnip: i was asking rsk
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> l314: sorry, just read what i put then ;)
[09:28] <l314> ActionParsnip: ya i was trying to do it but didn't realize that it was xfce 4
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> l314: xfce4 will give you just the desktop and you will run your gnome apps, if you install xubuntu-desktop you will get some lighter alternatives to the gnome apps you run
[09:28] <l314> ActionParsnip: ya i was trying to do it but didn't realize that it was xfce4
[09:29] <WackyHyena> if I got a powerful gaming computer, would it be a good idea to put ubuntu on it or should I just keep windows on it?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: its not an issue of power, its what suits your needs
[09:29] <l314> ActionParsnip: thank you what is the command to start a gui program via terminal
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> l314: just type its name, it will run
[09:30] <WackyHyena> well, I just don't want ubuntu using only half of the resources of a powerful PC
[09:30] <preecher> did i see that other peoples answer correct--i can install xbuntu desktop only an keep ubuntu progs and everthing else
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> l314: make sure you add a & at the end of the command
[09:30] <vanillasky> I've been running 6.04 AMD64 desktop for several months without problem, and today, I've been having issues with lockups which I thought were HDD related (tested good), and now I have no sound
[09:31] <l314> ActionParsnip: sorry haven't used ubuntu since 5.10 when it first came out
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: it will use as much as it needs to run, it will use the resources well
[09:31] <rsk> WackyHyena: put ubuntu on it if you want ubuntu, put windows on it if you want windows. pretty easy question.
[09:31] <MenZa> WackyHyena: I just bought a machine with an i7 920, a GTX 285 and 6 gigs of RAM. I dualboot.
[09:31] <vanillasky> I did try the liveCD, and I have working sound under the liveCD
[09:31] <Flannel> vanillasky: 6.06 isn't supported anymore.  You ought to upgrade to 8.04 (which is a direct upgrade)
[09:31] <fcuk112_> MenZa: wow that's a beast!
[09:31] <rsk> no that's a computer.
[09:31] <vanillasky> sorry, fatfingered it, 9.04
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> fcuk112_: you'd like some of my sql servers then ;)
[09:31] <fcuk112_> hehe
[09:32] <rsk> a beast is unreleased hardware that you have under control
[09:32] <rsk> =)
[09:32] <WackyHyena> like ubuntu doesn't use directx functionality of my video card, or is that not correct?
[09:32] <rsk> anyone can buy commodity hardware :p
[09:32]  * frogzoo mumbles something about ActionParsnip yoking thoroughbreds to ploughs...
[09:33] <rsk> WackyHyena: no it dosen't. it can use openGL instead.
[09:33] <Jonathan_Glam> Is there any program that allows me to have a quick launch bar that only pops up when I click a set key, and it doesn't reduce my screen size like cairo dock?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: directx is a microsoft product so no
[09:33] <frogzoo> ActionParsnip: oh sql servers, nvm, for some reason was thinking ms sql
[09:33] <WackyHyena> opengl works worse on my card than directx
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> wakejagr: but wine allows an abstraction for it so stuff that uses it may run
[09:33] <rsk> WackyHyena: in windows, right?
[09:34] <WackyHyena> no, in ubuntu
[09:34] <rsk> how can you know
[09:34] <rsk> there's no dx for ubuntu
[09:34] <papul> when's karmic realising?
[09:34] <rsk> !karmic | papul
[09:34] <frogzoo> !koala
[09:34] <WackyHyena> like in nexuiz, it's really really slow with all settings down, and half life at full settings is still fast
[09:34] <darkking_> Hi all! Can anyone help me about "dm_mod" , "dm_mirror", "dm_snapshot" modules?
[09:34] <WackyHyena> nexuiz being on linux and half life 2 being on windows
[09:34] <vanillasky> What would cause my sound to stop working for no reason like that?  There were no updates or changes to the software that I know of.
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: installed and configured video drivers?
[09:35] <WackyHyena> yes
[09:35] <rsk> WackyHyena: how does nexiuz run in windows?
[09:36] <darkking_> anyone?
[09:36] <rsk> WackyHyena: it's kinda bad comparing peformance with 2 different games
[09:36] <darkking_> nobody?
[09:36] <WackyHyena> openarena runs good in windows and bad in linux with same exact settings
[09:36] <Catalin> hello all
[09:36] <rsk> WackyHyena: have you confirmed you have drivers working well?
[09:37] <WackyHyena> how do I know?
[09:37] <tehbaut> anyone know of a decent screenshot app/utility for ubuntu (not firefox-only) that supports scrolling windows/regions?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: logged a bug to the devs?
[09:37] <vanillasky> I was going to just fresh install, but I checked the site and noticed that Karmic is due in 9 days, so I figured I'd wait until then for a fresh install
[09:37] <Catalin> can someone assist me please with a small problem?
[09:37] <rsk> !ask | Catalin
[09:37] <sun`> If i download ubuntu 9.10 beta.. will it be upgraded on 29th OCt?
[09:37] <rsk> sun`: yes
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: gnome has one under graphics or it may be under accessories
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> sun`: yes they use the same repos so you will upgrade seamlessly
[09:37] <Catalin> any ideea where i should find strong dc or dc++
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Catalin
[09:38] <Catalin> i want to install in Ubuntu 9.04
[09:38] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: out of the box? it doesn't support scrolling regions tho...
[09:38] <zcat[1]> birthday?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: ah, i see
[09:38] <rsk> Catalin: there's no good direct connect client for ubuntu, but try microdc.
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> !dc
[09:39] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: to be honest, I'm looking for a SnagIt replacement for linux
[09:39] <rsk> aren't valknut and family like really bad?
[09:39] <Catalin> microdc is the same thing like strong ?
[09:39] <rsk> no
[09:39] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: only better, as SnagIt couldn't seem to scroll all regions successfully
[09:39] <rsk> microdc = microdc strong = strong
[09:39] <tehbaut> most, but not all
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: i use snaggit on my work laptop, ive not used or heard of scrolling regions
[09:40] <vanillasky> got it working, now to figure out my freezing issue
[09:40] <vanillasky> thanks
[09:40] <Catalin> and with this program i can connect to my fav hubs?
[09:40] <rsk> 2006-10-29: microdc is no longer in development. wops
[09:40] <rsk> Catalin: yes
[09:40] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: you must not have it set to scroll then?
 2006-10-29: microdc is no longer in development. wops
[09:40] <Catalin> :((
[09:41] <rsk> haven't used dc since 2005 maybe
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: i just press ctrl + print screen and draw a square round what I need
[09:41] <tehbaut> basically, it's suppose to scroll any scrollable control of any window and piece multiple screenshots of that region back together
[09:41] <WackyHyena> how would I know if I have my video driver installed properly?
[09:41] <Catalin> rsk, a few minutes in private it will upset you?
[09:41] <tehbaut> kinda like page-dn, capture, page-dn, capture... build
[09:41] <rsk> Catalin: yes
[09:42] <linny> anyone had any problems with transmission freezing up the pc, i have a feeling it has something to do with HT on my p4 cpu , does ubuntu "offically" support HT
[09:42] <rsk> WackyHyena: you should get good peformance in games
[09:42] <Catalin> Yes means that i can do that?
[09:42] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: it's an awesome feature when it works (and it does for a majority of scrollable regions)
[09:42] <rsk> it means dont private message me, i don't know you
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: if you can run 3D its installed, 3D stuff simply wont start without the right driver
[09:43] <Catalin> ok rsk , sorry
[09:43] <rsk> ActionParsnip: you sure? ati/radeon driver can run 3 stuff
[09:43] <rsk> 3d*
[09:43] <Catalin> so, can you name another client like dc for me?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: i've only used it for small regions, I can do the same without and mspaint to isolate what i need
[09:43] <rsk> 10:38 < ActionParsnip> !dc
[09:43] <rsk> 10:38 < ubottu> Direct Connect clients: linuxdcpp, dcgui (GTK), Valknut, dc-qt (Qt), rccp (terminal-based) - See also !P2P
[09:43] <tehbaut> hmmm, I thought FireFox was supposed to be uncrashable on ubuntu? :P
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> rsk: sure, the drivers just arent great
[09:43] <rsk> tehbaut: not really
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> !dc | Catalin
[09:44] <WackyHyena> enabling blur in compiz slows everything way down, and sometimes messes up the screen so I have to restart Xorg
[09:44] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: well saving time sure is a beautiful thing :)
[09:44] <rsk> WackyHyena: disable compiz when running games
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: i'm at work now
[09:44] <tehbaut> you should try it some time :D
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: i have time
[09:44] <tehbaut> heh
[09:44] <Catalin> thank you guys
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: ati under linux is pretty poor due to ati not wanting to support ati but they are getting better
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: nvidia cards are very supported
[09:45] <WackyHyena> rsk, i'm trying to make compiz make my titlebars slightly blurred like in vista, but that slows down the whole system, even when not running anything else, it's an intel 945GM card
[09:46] <rsk> WackyHyena: you were saying before you had an ATI card
[09:46] <rsk> WackyHyena: stop confusing me
[09:46] <WackyHyena> i did?
[09:46]  * WackyHyena checks
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: i thought you said you had a powerful gaming pc?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> with an onboard intel graphics card??
[09:47] <rsk> WackyHyena: intel has a opensource driver that works fairly well
[09:47] <rsk> WackyHyena: but the windows one is closed source with some magic linux dosen't have
[09:48] <WackyHyena> i'm going to buy one soon and I want to know if ubuntu would take advantage of it's power, like supporting all the cores and things like that
[09:48] <rsk> but it's getter better for every day basicly in linux
[09:48] <rsk> WackyHyena: Yes it will if you buy nvidia GPU, cpu dosen't matter.
[09:48] <MenZa> WackyHyena: It certainly can.
[09:48] <linny> ActionParsnip: hes prolly repeating what they told him at pc world :S
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> linny: thats what i thought, i love pc world, its fun to baffle them
[09:48] <linny> :)
[09:49] <frosty840> Hi, I'm trying to follow this guide to grub error 22 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 . I'm booting from a live USB. I get to the second line of the instruction, to run "find /boot/grub/?stage1" and am getting error 15: File not found returned. The thing is, the stage1 file is there, in /boot/grub/. Any ideas?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> linny: ask them about the cas latency of the ram in their systems, that always gets them scrathing their heads
[09:49] <WackyHyena> i hope I can delete my windows partition soon if wine gets good enough to run my games :D
[09:50] <linny> ActionParsnip: nah im not silly enough to buy things from pc world
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: you could
[09:50] <tehbaut> is there a trick to undo changes made to settings in a dialog box?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> linny: me neither, i just use it as an entertainment centre
[09:50] <linny> if i ever need to waste 70 pounds or so on some bloated anti-virus i know where to go
[09:51] <WackyHyena> anti-viruses are useless, even in windows (to me)
[09:51] <tehbaut> I guess I'm somewhat used to the [save] [apply] [cancel] workflow implemented by windows
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: in windows they are advised due to poor user modelling
[09:53] <WackyHyena> I wonder if there's any video editor that handles mesh distortions, seems like it's only an idea in linux
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> wonder away, you'll never know unless you ask or research
[09:55] <rsk> WackyHyena: http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/features/
[09:55] <tehbaut> is there a better weather widget for gnome panels than the one included by default?
[09:55] <rsk> tehbaut: what do you mean by better?
[09:55] <WackyHyena> blender is for 3d animation though
[09:56] <tehbaut> well, I was hoping for something more widgety when you click to get the forcast an such
[09:56] <tehbaut> rather than a tabbed window with plain text
[09:56] <rsk> use awn or such
[09:57] <tehbaut> something perhaps that pops up when you click, and allows you to interact with it, but clicking away makes it vanish
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: there may be some desklet that gives it
[09:57] <lyhana8> hi, I try to commit a personnal projet to a svn repository but I got this error : containing working copy admin area is missing
[09:58] <lyhana8> the folder doesn't exist in the repository so I couldn't check him out
[09:58] <tehbaut> is there a good resource for desklets on the web?
[09:58] <tehbaut> or just the desklets site itself
[10:00] <accid> i just installed ubunto on a vm, what are some cool plugins i can get ?
[10:00] <kbmaniac> have migrated to ubuntu but still get the xubuntu 'loading' screen, how to change ?
[10:00] <rsk> accid: please give a cool example, so i know what you want
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: http://www.gdesklets.de/
[10:01] <accid> rsk - interface wise
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> !bootsplash
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> !splash
[10:01] <rsk> accid: what do you think is cool in a interface?
[10:01] <accid> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w
[10:01] <kbmaniac> many thanks
[10:01] <accid> that is
[10:02] <accid> i like the widgets
[10:02] <rsk> accid: do install the prgoram in the youtube vid then?
[10:02] <rsk> accid: there's countless plugins for compiz
[10:02] <tehbaut> thanks ActionParsnip, this AWN app is interesting too
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: sounds like you found something then :)
[10:03] <tehbaut> wonder if it can be made to act similar to the win7 superbar, which I think behaves pretty decently
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> accid: you will need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:04] <accid> doing so now accid
[10:04] <Solar_Flare> Hi ^^
[10:04] <accid> ActionParsnip
[10:04] <Solar_Flare> can i somehow save my changes to the ubuntu live-cd?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> accid: i'm not sure how vmware gives any sort of 3D acceleration which compiz needs
[10:05] <rsk> Solar_Flare: no
[10:05] <accid> rsk
[10:05] <rsk> accid
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Solar_Flare: you can put the live cd home on a usb to store settings
[10:06] <accid> i may just install ubuntu on its own partition
[10:06] <rsk> and how does that relate to me?
[10:06] <accid> yes rsk ?
[10:06] <ruby_on_tails> hello
[10:06] <||David||> bleh
[10:06] <Solar_Flare> ActionParsnip Ive got it on a usb drive, how do I set it to store changes there?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Solar_Flare: if the livecd is on the usb as well then any chnages will be automatically stored
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Solar_Flare: you can even update the packages
[10:07] <Solar_Flare> wow...
[10:07] <ruby_on_tails> hello
[10:07] <Solar_Flare> ubuntu astonishes me every day more and more...
[10:07] <Solar_Flare>  ^^
[10:07] <Solar_Flare> thanks.
[10:07] <Solar_Flare> cu
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Solar_Flare: np
[10:07] <FloodBot1> Solar_Flare: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:08] <Jonathan_Glam> Is there a simple .deb installation for Gnome Do Docky?
[10:08] <|DarkStar|> holy...this place is almost as big as dalnet or somewhere old
[10:08] <Jonathan_Glam> Because I installed Gnome do... but i can't seem to get the dock working
[10:08] <accid> rsk
[10:08] <rsk> accid
[10:08] <accid> =]
[10:08] <ruby_on_tails> is it possible to make a bash script which can clean my desktop every Sunday ?
[10:08] <accid> i have a few silly questions
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: sure, the desktop is just a folder ~/Desktop
[10:09] <accid> can one OS remote desktop into another OS ?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: so you can have a script to empty that folder
[10:09] <rsk> Jonathan_Glam: http://do.davebsd.com/download.shtml and click on ubuntu?
[10:09] <vox> accid: sure
[10:09] <rsk> accid: yes
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> accid: sure can
[10:09] <ruby_on_tails> no no not empty ActionParsnip :P
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: whatever you want, it will be done in that folder
[10:09] <accid> RSK, which program do i need to remote from xp to ubuntu ?
[10:10] <rsk> accid: none
[10:10] <d9500> accid: you mean vnc or rdp (to windows)? both can be done from ubuntu, but unless the machines are on the same lan, you probably need a vpn tunnel between them.
[10:10] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, how do I install it from the ppa?  https://launchpad.net/~do-core/+archive/ppa
[10:10] <accid> there is one here called krdc
[10:10] <rsk> Jonathan_Glam: read the instructions
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: write the script to do whatever then have it running every sunday
[10:10] <ruby_on_tails> for example if I am working on 4 projects which have their folders in var/www/ can a script put the lazy files downloaded/copied on the desktop in the respective folders in var/www each Sunday
[10:10] <ruby_on_tails> aah k
[10:10] <FloodBot1> ruby_on_tails: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> accid: or if you want basic control you can use ssh and have a command line interface which is much faster
[10:10] <slawek> #lubin
[10:11] <ruby_on_tails> who coded FloodBot1 ?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: i'd bet jussi
[10:11] <MenZa> ruby_on_tails: Ask in #ubuntu-bots for these types of questions.
[10:11] <ruby_on_tails> ActionParsnip: can this thing be done on windows os ?
[10:11] <ruby_on_tails> DOS scripts maybe ?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: not sure, ask in ##windows
[10:12] <ruby_on_tails> hmm.. ok
[10:12] <ziroday> ruby_on_tails: floodbot was created by LjL` and I'm guessing in perl, but could very well be wrong
[10:13] <ziroday> ruby_on_tails: and IIRC its not open source, but #ubuntu-bots is the best place to ask
[10:13] <tehbaut> for some reason, I'm now unable to select certain apps to install from the Jaunty Add/Remove Apps listing
[10:13] <ruby_on_tails> ziroday: what's IIRC ?
[10:13] <ziroday> ruby_on_tails: if I recall corrrectly :)
[10:14] <ziroday> tehbaut: like?
[10:14] <ruby_on_tails> oh k
[10:14] <tehbaut> ziroday: RAR, Avant Window Navigator
[10:14] <ruby_on_tails> I just want to tell the coder to improve the logic, the bot shouts 3 out of 5 times on me when I am here
[10:14] <MenZa> ruby_on_tails: Again, #ubuntu-bots :)
[10:14] <tehbaut> ziroday: looks like it's actually only an issue when I've done a search
[10:15] <ruby_on_tails> 1 sec
[10:15] <ziroday> tehbaut: hmm, try doing 'sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator' in a terminal
[10:15] <MenZa> alternative, ruby_on_tails - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[10:15] <ruby_on_tails> done
[10:15] <tehbaut> ziroday: I take that back, still not able to select RAR
[10:15] <ruby_on_tails> told at #ubuntu-bots
[10:15] <david__> help, i uninstalled an app and it still is in the menu button under office..
[10:15] <tehbaut> is that because I installed 7zip?
[10:16] <d9500> david: you just want to get rid of the entry in the menu?
[10:16] <|DarkStar|> david_ ...right click on the menu and go to "Edit Menu"
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> d9500: then run alacarte and remove it
[10:17] <d9500> DarkStar beat me to it.
[10:17] <|DarkStar|> yay
[10:17] <|DarkStar|> I'm somewhat useful
[10:17]  * david__ runs alacarte
[10:17] <david__> yay, it worked, thanks alot ActionParsnip =D
[10:17] <d9500> Actually, |DarkStar| your method was quicker than mine. I was going to suggest System-->Prefes-->Main Menu. So thx for the tip.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> david__: np man
[10:18] <|DarkStar|> d9500, np
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> david__: you can also create entrys there too (for example for your home made scripts0
[10:18] <cowgarden> hi, how to see the remaining space on a CD/DVD in the burning utility?
[10:18] <|DarkStar|> what's alacarte, btw?
[10:18] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, got in updated thanks. How would I install compositing? I tried before a while back, but completely failed. Is there a guide you could link me to?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> !info alacarte | |DarkStar|
[10:19] <Trance> hi all
[10:19] <|DarkStar|> cool ty
[10:19] <Trance> I have a problem with sound in beta
[10:19] <rsk> Jonathan_Glam: no idea
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> !9.10 | Trance
[10:20] <|DarkStar|> my main laptop crapped out so I'm on my netbook now :(
[10:20] <Trance> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[10:20] <|DarkStar|> works good, now that I'm using it hehe
[10:20] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, k :(
[10:20] <cowgarden> nobody burning CDs with nautilus?
[10:20] <fcuk112_> cowgarden: i use k3b.
[10:20] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, if that one shows me what I need.. I'll give it a try
[10:20] <engrshahryar_> hello to all
[10:21] <engrshahryar_> anyone worked with LBS?
[10:21] <engrshahryar_> i need a small help
[10:21] <|DarkStar|> cowgarden, I used to use k3b but it wasn't working with my dvd-rw...so I bought nero (ducks for backlash)
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> jonathan_glam: you need to install video drivers first, then you can switch on compiz and have compositing
[10:21] <engrshahryar_> location based services? anyone used it in thier app? plz help
[10:21] <cowgarden> |DarkStar|, there is a linux nero?
[10:21] <|DarkStar|> cowgarden, yessir
[10:21] <|DarkStar|> costs money, though
[10:22] <Jonathan_Glam> actionparsnip: last time I tried to install Compiz it stuffed up and I had to re-install/repair Ubuntu via LiveCD
[10:22] <|DarkStar|> I'd use it as a last resort, though, like I had to...k3b didn't work for me
[10:22] <Jonathan_Glam> actionparsnip: i'm looking at: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/03/31/enable-metacity-compositing-in-gnome-222/
[10:22] <cowgarden> |DarkStar|, supporting linux makes them deserve some money :)
[10:22] <rsk> Jonathan_Glam: it should be installed already if you are using 9.04, that link is old.
[10:22] <|DarkStar|> cowgarden, I agree...
[10:22] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, I am yes
[10:23] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, but I'm still getting that on Gnome Do
[10:23] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, woa, loads of kde libs :)
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> jonathan_glam; tombuntu is usually pretty good
[10:23] <|DarkStar|> cowgarden, I was pretty happy with it
[10:23] <zaoul1> gimmie muh monie
[10:23] <fcuk112_> cowgarden: yes, its a KDE app.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> !burning | cowgarden
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> nero for linux seems awfully silly when there are all those apps you can use for free
[10:23] <|DarkStar|> kinda like how some game companies like 2Dboy deserve money for supporting linux
[10:23] <cowgarden> ActionParsnip, thanks, now I have k3b :)
[10:24] <david__> um.. i want to learn lots about linux etc any tips on how to do that fast?
[10:24] <rsk> david__: do things with it
[10:24] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, what if none work but a commercial app does?
[10:24] <ziroday> david__: and use the wiki
[10:24] <fcuk112_> david__: read some books.
[10:24] <cowgarden> david__, maybe just try to tweak your system?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: then you have some crazy issue
[10:24] <zaoul1> david__: if you want to learn 'Linux' dont use ubuntu
[10:24] <david__> rsk: what "things" do i do?
[10:24] <rsk> david__: things you want, that gives best results
[10:24] <david__> zaoul1: i was thinking about debian but i dont know if the difference is that huge..
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: i'd look at settings and try a million different combinations before paying for an app
[10:25] <zaoul1> david__: you are right, they both use apt-get so it would be the same
[10:25] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, which a commercial program solves...so...? Don't get me wrong, I'd like to use K3b but at the time it didn't detect the drive
[10:25] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, wonderful it worked that link
[10:25] <Jonathan_Glam> actionparsnip worked, thanks man!
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> jonathan_glam: sweet nice one
[10:25] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, not everyone has the time, or the knowledge to do that. Some, like myself, are just impatient and want stuff to work.
[10:25] <david__> zaoul1:  could use freebsd then...
[10:26] <zaoul1> david__: you said you wanted to learn Linux ..
[10:26] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, how do I select multiple files in K3b?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: then your wallet will take a hit
[10:26] <alan__> lol i need help desperately, amsn disappeared from systray, and its not in system processes, but its still on, how do i access it?
[10:26] <david__> zaoul1: as long as i learn something im happy, any OS recomendations for learning?
[10:26] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, folders i ment, they keep opening on single klick
[10:26] <zaoul1> david__: Gentoo
[10:26] <rsk> david__: LFS
[10:27] <zaoul1> rsk: oh dont make the guy commit suicide
[10:27] <alan__> david__: crunchbang!
[10:27] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, a small hit, true. Not anything in the order of paying for a MS Windows license, though. I don't see the problem.
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> david__: +1 for gentoo
[10:27] <rsk> -1 for gentoo
[10:27] <zaoul1> we prob need to stop now the topic nazis  will show up soon
[10:27] <alan__> Crunchbang is pretty easy to use, and its faster than ubuntu
[10:27] <fcuk112_> cowgarden: are you trying to burn a dvd?
[10:27] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, yes
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: true true, i'd rather try and get the open solutions going but if the paid for one gets you sorted then its no bad thing
[10:28] <zaoul1> alan__: we want to learn Linux not xyz distribution
[10:28] <|DarkStar|> There's room for commercial apps in linux
[10:28] <fcuk112_> cowgarden: just select new data dvd project and drag files into the window.
[10:28] <david__> so.. what do i do gentoo or lfs?
[10:28] <indus> is ubuntu 9.10rc out
[10:28] <rsk> indus: no
[10:28] <zaoul1> david__: I would setup ubuntu and then install virtualbox and give a whirl at whatever you feel like
[10:28] <indus> rsk: delayed?
[10:28] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, wanted to use the build in browser, but thats a simple workarround :) thx...
[10:28] <alan__> Does anyone know how to open a list of all running applications?
[10:28] <rsk> indus: afaik it won't be a RC.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: definately, there already is too: penumbra, cedega and crossoveroffice are also commercial
[10:28] <zaoul1> david__: in the virtual env
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> alan__: ps -ef | less
[10:29] <rsk> david__: if you want to learn linux get LFS, gentoo is more for having a usable system and good practices
[10:29] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, I used that method for getting DVDs to play...I won't spend a single dime to play DVDs I already own and should be able to play
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: the demo of penumbra is great :D
[10:29] <zaoul1> system -- administration -- system monitor
[10:29] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, yeah it is...actually I played Doom 3 in Linux...good game
[10:29] <Tm_T> |DarkStar|: ActionParsnip: ...
[10:29] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, and 2D Boy's World of Goo...not a bad game either
[10:30] <zaoul1> id say LFS is outdated, gentoo you can do the same thing without having to solve all the deps yourself, drive yourself crazy
[10:30] <djtigerwolf> how do i get amarok to play mp3 files i already added restricted files
[10:30] <|DarkStar|> there are some great commercial linux games out there
[10:30] <arand> I have a wireless network which only leases for ~300 seconds, meaning that network manager drops the connection constantly, are there any settings in NM to mitigate this?
[10:30] <zaoul1> gentoo you do everything manually anywya.. partition, bootloader, kernel
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: totally, some are magnificent
[10:31] <Tm_T> zaoul1: ActionParsnip |DarkStar| please, topic
[10:31] <rsk> zaoul1: he wants to learn linux, LFS isn't outdated for that.
[10:31] <WackyHyena> are there any audio editors available that use something like keyframes?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> arand: use static IP
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> arand: change your dhcp lease time to something realistic
[10:31] <zaoul1> and there they are
[10:31] <zaoul1> im outie
[10:31] <acts_as_rubyist> hello all, anyone here used Openmeetings ever?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: gotcha
[10:31] <david__> then that settles it, il run gentoo first, then lfs later(lfs sounds harder so il learn stuff in gentoo first)
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> david__: gentoo will teach you much
[10:32] <|DarkStar|> david__, I'd run slackware first if I were you7
[10:32] <|DarkStar|> -7
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> david__: grab the handbook and the minimal CD and away you go
[10:32] <acts_as_rubyist> my first linux install was gentoo from stage 1 tarballs
[10:32] <acts_as_rubyist> can you even do that anymore?
[10:33]  * david__ starts getting confused..
[10:33] <david__> slackware, gentoo, lfs...
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> acts_as_rubyist: you can but its not supported, stage3 is more accepted
[10:34] <acts_as_rubyist> totally, that was a long time ago
[10:34] <jussi01> !ot
[10:34] <Tm_T> david__: acts_as_rubyist and others, if your conversation isn't Ubuntu support related, please use our lovely #ubuntu-offtopic channel, thanks (:
[10:35] <acts_as_rubyist> ok. So has anyone gotten Openmeetings to run under ubunutu?
[10:35] <WackyHyena> what's openmeetings
[10:35] <hsarci_> whenever i try to open a folder from "places" i get a error saying "No application is registered as handling this file"? any ideas???
[10:35] <acts_as_rubyist> sorry, back now
[10:35] <ziroday> hsarci_: what version of ubuntu?
[10:36] <horsie> anyone know how accurate the release schedule for 9.10 is?
[10:36] <hsarci_> ziroday, karmic...i asked in +1 but no one responded
[10:36] <acts_as_rubyist> looking for some install help for this Openmeetings RC5
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> !9.10 | horsie
[10:36] <acts_as_rubyist> it's supported for debian variants, but I'm having a heck of a time putting openmeetings on my ubuntu box
[10:36] <WackyHyena> does anyone use JACK in ubuntu? i can' seem to get ardour and other jack based applications to run
[10:37] <horsie> ta - is the date close to garunteed or a target? or is it released at that stage regardless
[10:37] <ziroday> hsarci_: one sec
[10:37] <tehbaut> AWN seems a tad buggy
[10:37] <hsarci_> ziroday, thanks
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> horsie: ask in #ubuntu+1   karmic isnt discussed here
[10:38] <horsie> k - thanks
[10:38] <arand> I have a wireless network which only leases for ~300 seconds, meaning that network manager drops the connection constantly (I presume this is the reason). Currently I'm forced to use ifupdown (+wpa_client) and "watch -n 200 sudo dhclient wlan0" To access the network, which works just as it should. Any way to get this working in NM?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> arand: why the short lease?
[10:40] <arand> ActionParsnip: Not my network, have no idea, it's normally configured using a client application (SecureW2) on windows...
[10:40] <|DarkStar|> arand, are you using a wireless router connected to your cable? adsl? and if so, can you connect to it directly and access it's web config page?
[10:40] <pee> hi, currently I'm reading in a magazine, that when I create a virtual-hosts file in /etc/apache2/sites-available, so I should link from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled. but how looks »the link« like in practise? I have the skript for the virtual-host file, but I don't know nothing about the »linking«. :-)
[10:41] <arand> Clarification: I have no possibility configure the network/DHCP, this is a wireless access point at a university.
[10:41] <fcuk112_> pee: man ln
[10:41] <ziroday> hsarci_:     * Right click a folder, go to Properties -> Open With, and change it back to Nautilus. There's a bug where if a folder is opened in an application, it automatically associates folders with that application on your system.
[10:42] <venil> Hi everyone, i created usb drive with ubuntu on it with persistence enabled, so i can save files - however if i make changes to /etc/resolv.conf(and possibly other system files) - its reset on reboot, is there a way to fix this so i can persistently make changes to it.
[10:42] <pee> fcuk112_: thx.
[10:42] <hsarci_> ziroday, right click within nautilus?? becasue i cant rightclick from the "places" menu
[10:43] <arand> |DarkStar|: I can't configure it see^
[10:43] <FiReSTaRT> hsarci_: so open one of the "places" and that'll open nautilus.. then right click on any folder and open the properties
[10:43] <ziroday> hsarci_: any folder will do
[10:44] <hsarci_> *sigh* im in nautilus, ive right clicked on a folder...and theres no place to change what application it opens with
[10:44] <ziroday> hsarci_: did you go to properties?
[10:44] <hsarci_> ziroday, nvm, its not in properties
[10:45] <venil> anyone?
[10:45] <ziroday> hsarci_: woops its been moved since that was pasted
[10:45] <hsarci_> ziroday, thanks a lot...works now :)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> arand: use a static ip
[10:45] <erUSUL> hsarci_: it is in Properties>Open with tab
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> venil: network manager will change that file
[10:46] <hsarci_> erUSUL, no its not...not on karmic at least...
[10:46] <FiReSTaRT> hsarci_: or jaunty
[10:46] <erUSUL> hsarci_: if you are in karmic you are asking in the wrong channel
[10:46] <FiReSTaRT> hsarci_: i checked in jaunty, same deal
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> venil: so you can use staic IP and disable network manager
[10:46] <erUSUL> FiReSTaRT: i am in karmic and the tab is there
[10:46] <erUSUL> !karmic | hsarci_
[10:46] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL:  i'm curious about this for jaunty
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> venil: or you can add the dns servers in network manager somewhere maybe
[10:46] <erUSUL> FiReSTaRT: jaunty* sorry
[10:46] <hsarci_> erUSUL, you are god of ubuntu, thanks for clarifying this as i had no idea what im doing and i would be lost without you
[10:46] <venil> ActionParsnip: where exactly?
[10:47] <nearst> hi ppl
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> venil: i dont use the app, it has no benefit to me so i remove it
[10:47] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL: i'm in jaunty but i don't have an open with tab for a folder
[10:47] <venil> ActionParsnip: so how do i configure to use static ip?
[10:47] <nearst> look /etc/network/interface
[10:47] <arand> ActionParsnip: hmm, that's an idea... *testing
[10:48] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL: basic emblems permissions notes share
[10:48] <erUSUL> FiReSTaRT: folder? the folder pen with the file manager (nautilus). it makes no sense imho to change that to anything else
[10:48] <venil> nearst: it will be reset after reboot, no persistance for this file
[10:48] <erUSUL> FiReSTaRT: what would you change that to ? anuther filemanager?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> venil: i set it in /etc/network/interfaces as nearst uggested. here is a guide: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[10:48] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL: exactly :)
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> venil: you can then disable the thing from loading at startup using bum
[10:48]  * erUSUL :S
[10:49] <venil> ActionParsnip: wont it be reset, same as  resolv.conf ?
[10:49] <nearst> venil: ifconfig inet bla bla will lost when reboot... not in config
[10:49] <hoit> is there a users sidebar or something in this xchat
[10:49] <i3azab> does anyone knows how to install "build-essential" form the .tar.gz file ?
[10:49] <nearst> venil: yeah... keep in resolv.conf for dnsname
[10:49] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL: nautilus is adequate, but i'd like to check out a few other options before i wipe my machine and install jaunty+1 :P
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> venil: no, it supercedes all network settings too, if you disable network manager, you can add any name servers you wish in resolv.conf and they will not get removed
[10:50] <erUSUL> FiReSTaRT: so you want to pen everything with nautilus except for one folder (or a few) that you want to open with dolphin? konqueror? roxfiler? ... people are crazy
[10:50] <meanieface> FiReSTaRT: why not just use thunar?
[10:50] <FiReSTaRT> meanieface: i might
[10:50] <venil> ActionParsnip:  ah, i see, ok
[10:50] <nearst> better open a folder in shell :) .. thats true linux
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> venil: personally, I think the network manager overwriting the resolv.cof file is rude
[10:50] <meanieface> FiReSTaRT: lightweight and acts just as well as nautilus
[10:51] <venil> ActionParsnip: can i disable it from startup, but keep it if i need to run in later?
[10:51] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL: i've used "open with" to change the default app across the board since preferred applications doesn't work every time
[10:52] <nearst> any idea about good virtualization ?
[10:52] <hsarci_> the settings in gconf for power manager that refer to time....what unit of measurement do they use???? for example it says "spindown time ac: 600" that means 600 whats?
[10:52] <FiReSTaRT> meanieface: ideally i'd like a cross b/w nautilus and win commander.. i'll check thunar out and whatever else is out there.. currently away from home so i don't have too much time to screw around with the system
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> venil: sure: sudo apt-get install bum; gksudo bum    then disable and stop network manager
[10:52] <FiReSTaRT> nearst: virtual box (giyf)
[10:53] <meanieface> FiReSTaRT: sounds good
[10:53] <pee> I have ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/netzor.local.conf in my 000-default file at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled before </VirtualHost>. at the apache2-restart I get the message: Syntax error on line 41 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:
[10:53] <pee> Invalid command 'ln', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[10:53] <nearst> FiReSTaRT: im know that... im talking about kvm
[10:53] <FiReSTaRT> speaking of which i gotta go translate a job proposal, so i'm outta here.. have a good one guys :)
[10:54] <nearst> pee: u got defines in vhost.conf
[10:54] <pee> nearst: I should define the link there, yeah?
[10:55] <nearst> no... in apache.conf / httpd.conf
[10:55] <nearst> edit that file pee
[10:56] <tehbaut> is there some way to make it so that when I'm dragging selections inside of a textbox, they don't change if I drag above or below the box, only left/right of the initial click
[10:56] <pee> nearst: in which folder are they? I was searching with sudo find / -name for them and I couldn't find anything.
[10:56] <erUSUL> pee: ln is in coreutils and should be installed?
[10:56] <tehbaut> that is reaaaally annoying (that it changes the selection when I accidentally drag above/below the textbox)
[10:57] <napster_123> i've installed svn through apt-get ... where can i find the conf files ?
[10:57] <pee> erUSUL: puh.. I was searching in synaptic for any with »ln«, without success.
[10:58] <nearst> find / -name apt.conf
[10:58] <erUSUL> pee: given that coreutils have cp mv and a lot of other core utils of any sane unix system i'm amazed that you do not have that installed
[10:59] <nathan7> Hi, I have a realtek that is working *great* when I unload 8139cp and reload 8139too - but it loads 8139cp in initramfs. How do I stop that?
[11:00] <nearst> nathan crate initramfs again or unload that modules
[11:00] <nathan7> Hmm.
[11:00] <|DarkStar|> dangit
[11:00] <nathan7> I have it blacklisted.
[11:00] <nathan7> And I ran update-initramfs -u
[11:00] <|DarkStar|> any programmer canucks in here? i.e. canadians?
[11:00] <pee> erUSUL: mv and cp are working well. thats my httpd.conf (from the apache2-folder - dunno why sudo find / -name wasn't finding it): http://bin.cakephp.org/view/744963666
[11:00] <nathan7> Caek.
[11:01] <nearst> pee: better with su - command
[11:01]  * nathan7 generates fresh initramfs
[11:01] <hoit> xchat is shit
[11:01] <pee> but now apache2 is alerting that: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1973700085
[11:01] <erUSUL> nathan7: /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ??
[11:02] <erUSUL> !blacklist | nathan7
[11:02] <nearst> erUSUL: your bot work like a charm
[11:03] <alabd> e.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war ?
[11:03] <erUSUL> nearst: is not mine :) i only know a few factoids ;)
[11:03] <nathan7> erUSUL: Oh, thanks
[11:03] <nearst> erUSUL: better for help people out there..
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> alabd: pokemon siler / gold / pearl / whatever
[11:04] <nearst> alabd: solitair also RPG game in your mind
[11:04] <nathan7> erUSUL: Nvm, it worked
[11:04] <erUSUL> !yay | nathan7
[11:04] <nathan7> Recreating the initramfs that is
[11:04] <r3za> hey guys , i have a problem , when i was to create iso from my package with aptoncd its close program automatically right on 87% , how can i fix this ?
[11:05] <nearst> !yay | erUSUL
[11:05] <nathan7> !yay > /dev/null
[11:06] <r3za> hey guys , i have a problem , when i was to create iso from my package with aptoncd its close program automatically right on 87% , how can i fix this ?
[11:06] <nathan7> Hmm
[11:07] <nathan7> r3za: Try running it from the terminal
[11:07] <nathan7> r3za: Maybe you can see the error message
[11:08] <r3za> nathan : HOW can i do that ?
[11:08] <karl0s> helou moto
[11:08] <nic1> how to install and run xdeskop on ubuntu?
[11:09] <rsk> nic1: install it, then runt it.
[11:09] <r3za> nathan7:  ok , got it
[11:09] <rsk> run*
[11:09] <karl0s> good luck
[11:09] <meanieface> lmao
[11:09] <nic1> rsk, what are the commands?
[11:09] <JNSamuel> ..
[11:09] <rsk> nic1: it dosen't say in the manual?
[11:09] <karl0s> rtfm
[11:09] <nathan7> nic1: xdeskop?
[11:09] <nathan7> I think you mean desktop?
[11:09] <alabd> ActionParsnip: siler is another game ?
[11:10] <nic1> nathan7, yes
[11:10] <nathan7> What specific one?
[11:10] <nic1> xfce
[11:11] <karl0s> apt-get install xdeskop
[11:11] <nathan7> http://www.x-desktop.org/ that?
[11:11] <nathan7> nic1: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:11] <nic1> karl0s, with xdesktop, will i be able to run xfce command?
[11:11] <alabd> ActionParsnip: nearst which of them you introduced are non-online ?
[11:11] <nathan7> nic1: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:11] <karl0s> maybe
[11:12] <meanieface> xfce isn't a command
[11:12] <karl0s> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <tehbaut> wow, AWN is really quite buggy
[11:13] <nathan7> tehbaut: Indeed.
[11:13] <ArkoldThos> if you don't want to fill your menu wit many things, just install xfdesktop4
[11:13] <alabd> e.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ?
[11:13] <tehbaut> nathan7: any better apps out there that are similar?
[11:13] <alabd> e.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ? an non-online
[11:13] <nic1> i ran sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:14] <nic1> now how can i start x desktop instead of gnome?
[11:14] <meanieface> nic1: are you using gdm?
[11:14] <rsk> lougout of gnome, pick xfce instead
[11:14] <rsk> and login
[11:14] <nic1> meanieface, yes
[11:14] <meanieface> nic1: just do what rsk said logout and pick xfce from the dropdown
[11:15] <nic1> ok
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> alabd: silver i meant
[11:15] <alabd> e.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ? an non-online ? ActionParsnip
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> alabd: its a pokemon game so no one dies, they just faint
[11:16] <tehbaut> well, the weather app for AWN really is spot-on
[11:16] <tehbaut> just what I was looking for
[11:16] <tehbaut> is it available for use with the standard gnome panels or other docks though?
[11:17] <alabd> ActionParsnip: except that pokemon
[11:17] <frosty840> Hi, I'm booting off a usb stick because mygrub has gone unexpectedly screwy. I'd like to reinstall ubuntu onto the partition it's currently installed on. How do I find out what partition my ubuntu is installed on? I've got sda1-4 here in the installer, and the information doesn't make sense, and I don't trust it. :/
[11:18] <meanieface> frosty840: type in df
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> alabd: sailor moon
[11:19] <nic1> anyone here knows awesome window manager?
[11:19] <alabd> ActionParsnip:  is it thinking game?
[11:19] <erUSUL> frosty840: mount thepartitions of the hards disk and see what is inside ?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> alabd: its alla bout farming
[11:20] <frosty840> The partitions are named, but I don't know how to connect them to these "sda" entries
[11:20] <hsarci_> why is it that when i specificy a port when trying to telnet to a specific address it always defaults to address:port/telnet instead of address:port???
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> hsarci_: i think you need to use: telnet server -p portnumb
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> hsarci_: or simply: telnet server port
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> hsarci_: no need for the colon
[11:23] <Seether1s> does ubuntu have good support for wireless routers?
[11:24] <Seether1s> usb recievers etc?
[11:24] <hsarci> ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: depends on the chip inside the device
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: the router is moot as it will obey ISO standards
[11:27] <Seether1s> d link 635
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: means nothing
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: can you give the output of: lsusb
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: one line will identify the device
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: dlink 635 is the router as well whci doesnt interest us, as soon as you get your wireless usb workig it will work with ANY router
[11:30] <user_> #linux-novatos
[11:30] <mud_bat1> I have a primary and extended partition /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2.  The extended partition contains 5 logical drives /dev/sda5 through /dev/sda9.  Windows XP is installed on /dev/sda1 and Vista is on /dev/sda5.  I'm having trouble with the grub entries booting into the two windows.  I assume that winxp would be on (hd0,0) and vista would be on (hd0,4) or just counting the partitions it would be the 3rd partition so I tried (hd0,2).  What
[11:31] <mud_bat1> perhaps I'm trying to reinvent the wheel and all I need to do is type grub> setup?
[11:32] <tehbaut> is there a shortcut to the process monitor?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: could make a shortcut to it on your desktop
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: some people assign ctrl+alt+del to it like in windows
[11:33] <tehbaut> I meant a keyboard shortcut, like ctrl+shift+escape
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> !grub | mud_bat1
[11:33] <user_> neptuno irc-hispano.org
[11:34] <alabd> ActionParsnip:  farming or sx ?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> alabd: sx?
[11:36] <tavasti> is there any command-line tool for disabling services? update-rc.d is not upstart compatible?
[11:37] <alabd> e.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ? an non-online ? ActionParsnip except  that pokemon
[11:37] <alabd> and silar moon
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/09/linux-tips-modify-ctrl-alt-del-behavior/
[11:38] <tehbaut> thanks :)
[11:39] <meanieface> alabd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=621458
[11:40] <tehbaut> ok, I installed FF3.5 from the Synaptic App Manager and FF is still showing up as v2
[11:41] <LiMatia> can anyone please help me out here?
[11:41] <rsk> tehbaut: try this
[11:41] <erUSUL> !ask | LiMatia
[11:41] <rsk> tehbaut: run firefox-3.5 in a terminal
[11:42] <fcuk112_> tehbaut: cd /usr/bin; sudo rm firefox; sudo ln -s firefox-3.5 firefox.
[11:42] <LiMatia> i updated the laptops manager and when i tried to play videos online i could't
[11:42] <kosmic> why am, i getting choppy sound
[11:43] <kosmic> oss. pulse, alsa
[11:43] <kosmic> all choppyp
[11:43] <pshr_> !oss | kosmic
[11:43] <pshr_> !sound | kosmic
[11:43] <kosmic> why is alsa not default in ubuntu
[11:43] <alabd> meanieface: see there is need game without war and wrath and not to be online and to be thinking game
[11:44] <rsk> kosmic: alsa is default in ubuntu
[11:45] <meanieface> alabd: thinking game as of how?
[11:45] <LiMatia> i can
[11:45] <meanieface> alabd: like puzzles or RTS style?
[11:45] <kosmic> rsk, is that a new setting
[11:45] <kosmic> pulseaudio was default in earlier versions
[11:46] <alabd> what is RTS  meanieface ?
[11:46] <tehbaut> btw, is it possible to get gnome-terminal to remember its window position or size?
[11:46] <rsk> kosmic: no every release of ubuntu has had alsa as default
[11:46] <rsk> kosmic: pulseaudio is ontop of alsa
[11:46] <user_> hola
[11:46] <LiMatia> I mean i can't seem to play videos online, can anyone please tell me what's wrong?
[11:46] <GIR7590> Hey, I recently installed SDL via apt-get, but whenever I try to compile something, it doesn't seem to see the libraries, and it always says "error: <sdl header file> : No such file or directory" (Replacing <sdl header file> with an actual header filename obvoisly)...
[11:46] <kosmic> rsk,  ohb
[11:46] <meanieface> alabd: real time strategy
[11:46] <GIR7590> Any thoughts?
[11:46] <kosmic> rsk, so wht else can be ontop of alsa
[11:46] <OSGUIAnonymous> wow this room is so busy
[11:46] <kosmic> alsa on alsa?
[11:46] <rsk> kosmic: jack, esd
[11:46] <rsk> kosmic: probaly moer things
[11:46] <alabd> meanieface: yes but without war and wrath
[11:47] <GIR7590> Anyone?
[11:47] <rsk> GIR7590: you need the -dev packages
[11:48] <meanieface> alabd: that's kinda tough considering RTS is pretty much about war and stuff
[11:48] <rsk> GIR7590: regular packages don't contain headers
[11:48] <joaopinto> GIR7590, you need the libsdl DEV packages
[11:48] <GIR7590> like sdl-mixer<version>-dev Right?
[11:48] <rsk> maybe, not sure
[11:48] <speed> Hello everyone
[11:49] <GIR7590> Hm, I think that may be my problem with some sections of SDL, but I installed the dev for mixer, and it still didn't detect it... Is there a full bundle for the -dev apckages?
[11:49] <GIR7590> packages*
[11:53] <babak> hi
[11:53] <GIR7590> Hey
[11:53] <n2diy> GIR7590: if your having dependiecy problems with your package manager, it could be a bug, and should be checked, and, or reportede
[11:54] <legend2440> GIR7590: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1154208
[11:54] <GIR7590> Thanks, I'll check that out.
[11:54] <babak> when i type this command   hg clone http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin  this output appear  bash: hg: command not found  what is problem?
[11:55] <n2diy> babak: your not sudo?
[11:55] <thijs_> Ever since i installed some ati catalyst drivers my 8.10 installation won't load any program, because that leads to direct crash. How do i remove them ?
[11:56] <babak> n2diy: yes i use sudo
[11:56] <johann> I am trying to install xubuntu on an old Toshiba. I need to generate custom xorg.conf file through the live CD. I can't install first and modify later since the normal installation ends in a black screen. Anyone have an idea of how to modify the live CD?
[11:56] <n2diy> babak: are you sure hg is installed? What is hg?
[11:57] <Ademan> can anyone explain to me how the gnome menu system works? where is the "structural" information for your menu kept? and I assume that there's a "master" copy of this which is used for new accounts.
[11:57] <Ademan> n2diy: hg is mercurial, a source control system like git or less so, svn or cvs
[11:58] <babak> n2diy: when i type hg this appear http://pastebin.com/m534847b5
[11:58] <Ademan> babak: what are you trying to do?
[11:59] <babak> Ademan: i want use this command  hg clone http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin
[11:59] <hylman> anyone tried karmic moblin remix yet?
[12:00] <erUSUL> !karmic | hylman
[12:00] <n2diy> babak: the only "problem" I see, is you are logged in as root, why?
[12:00] <Ademan> babak: then just run that command as it is, what exactly isn't working?
[12:00] <Martin_vW> Hello, update-manager on my karmic notebooks hangs after having entered the password. I see in htop that update-manager has a subprocess gksu, and gksu has a sudo subprocess in turn. If I strace this sudo process, it prints only one line "restart_syscall" and hangs. Any ideas on what's going on here?
[12:01] <hylman> I thought karmic moblin = ubuntu moblin remix 9.10
[12:01] <Martin_vW> *notebook
[12:01] <Martin_vW> My main karmic machine is not affected.
[12:01] <hylman> I tried it couple weeks ago, but it was still buggy... just wondering if this has been stable ever since
[12:02] <babak> n2diy: plese see this  http://pastebin.com/m6979dac0
[12:02] <Ademan> Martin_vW: you may want to go to #ubuntu+1
[12:02] <estan> anyone experience printing stopping to work in openoffice with some recent update? it works from gedit/firefox et.c.
[12:02] <charnel> I installed Vim-Gnome and cannot use it in graphical mode when I type vim.gnome I see the standart Vim in conseol
[12:02] <Ademan> estan: it doesn't print on tuesday :-p
[12:03] <MenZa> charnel: Try "gvim"
[12:03] <GIR7590> I think I found my problem, looks like there isn't just a universal repo for all versions of Ubuntu, I am currently using Hardy Heron, and it isn't updating SDL to the extent that is needed by the source I am trying to compile, does anyone know if (If possible) I could update my repos so they use a newer version of Ubuntu's repos?
[12:03] <estan> i've tried restarting cups and the printer, and /var/log/cups/* doesn't show anything special.
[12:03] <estan> Ademan: :)
[12:03] <babak> Ademan: when i type that command this error show http://pastebin.com/m6979dac0
[12:03] <iceroot> is it allowed to use 00 in cron instead of 0? something like 00 23 * * * sh foo.sh