[09:12] <gdb> Shinzetsu: heh ok, well, that's an issue to tackle another day then :-)
[09:12] <DarkElf109> DamianFinol: This is true =)
[09:12] <Bonez56_> Shinzetsu: I had that problem, 2 secs and i'll find you a thread on ubuntuforums, it's quite simple to fix
[09:12] <DamianFinol> jamie You can 'sudo umount /dev/hdb1'
[09:12] <Bonez56_> gdb: great, didn't know about that. taa
[09:12] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, I just did that and then re-did the "apt-get install linux-source"
[09:12] <Shinzetsu> hey thanks mate
[09:12] <gdb> Shinzetsu: And remember, if you feel like it, Ubuntu can go from boot to installed in about 30 minutes. ;-)
[09:13] <gdb> Shinzetsu: If you choose to reinstall  your machine
[09:13] <gdb> Bonez56_: :-D
[09:13] <evan_w00> how do you get rid of the "beeps" when you type?
[09:13] <NickGarvey> evan_w00: you mean when you hit tab?
[09:13] <evan_w00> kinda annoying
[09:13] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, and still /usr/src/ is empty any idea why?
[09:13] <Shinzetsu> gdb: yep, i know it =p, i screwed up once
[09:13] <gdb> hehe
[09:13] <NickGarvey> evan_w00: xset -b off
[09:13] <evan_w00> NickGarvey what i hit dead ends
[09:13] <evan_w00> oh ok
[09:13] <Bonez56_> Shinzetsu: run this command; sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[09:13] <evan_w00> thanks :)
[09:13] <Bonez56_> Shinzetsu: then choose which artwork you want, just the main ubuntu one
[09:13] <gdb> ah, cool, the last part of the puzzle that I didn't know
[09:13] <Shinzetsu> thanks!!
[09:13] <gdb> thanks, Bonez56_ :-)
[09:14] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: did it install without error?
[09:14] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- however, i still get the same error message. how can i fix it?
[09:14] <Bonez56_> no probs, i searched for ages to find out how to fix that!
[09:14] <gdb> lol
[09:14] <NickGarvey> evan_w00: yeah that bothers me too (and wakes people up) ;)
[09:14] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: not too sure then sorry :(
[09:14] <gdb> hehe you know what's funny
[09:14] <Shinzetsu> wee
[09:14] <Shinzetsu> man im gonna get myself a beer now phew
[09:14] <Bonez56_> Shinzetsu: beer + ubuntu = win
[09:14] <gdb> I've been using Ubuntu (and thus a debian system) only since 2 weeks previous to Dapper release.
[09:14] <evan_w00> NickGarvey same situation here :P
[09:14] <DarkElf109> Flannel: Ack! Just found it: It was hiding in my courierimapsubscribed file -_-
[09:14] <Shinzetsu> yes
[09:15] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, it said "Setting up linux-source (<IP_ADDRESS>) ..." and then came back to the prompt
[09:15] <gdb> I was pretty much flying by the seat of my pants helping Shinzetsu. ;-)
[09:15] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- can i give you the list of files in pastebin, and you confirm which one i should download?
[09:15] <Bonez56_> gdb: what distro are you familiar with?
[09:15] <stopher> im not sure
[09:15] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: and theres nothing in /usr/src?
[09:15] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: yep go for it
[09:15] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20435
[09:15] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I did lose half of my KDE apps tho
[09:15] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, empty
[09:15] <gdb> Bonez56_: Red Hat and Fedora.  I started with Slackware in 1994, then Red Hat in '96, had a 2 year stint of NetBSD and then back to Red Hat and continuing on to Fedora.
[09:15] <Shinzetsu> gdb: doesnt matter, all I need is amaroK :-)
[09:15] <DarkElf109> So...now that that's all cleared up (been bugging me for a week -_-), anybody need help?
[09:15] <gdb> Shinzetsu: they would be included with kubuntu-desktop
[09:16] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: not sure, and its like 3:15 here so I need to finish my work and go to sleep, good luck
[09:16] <gdb> Shinzetsu: If you want them back, then you can apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ;-)
[09:16] <stopher> It's just not working for me
[09:16] <Bonez56_> gdb: sounds very similar to be, except instead of the netbsd I went to debian... stayed there since, but now i'm learning RHCE, it's a bit of a nightmare after doing debian for so long :)
[09:16] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, yep thanks
[09:16] <DarkElf109> Shinzetsu: Or just apt-get install amark, and then you don't grab EVERYTHING
[09:16] <Shinzetsu> ok heh im going out of irssi and install xchat brb
[09:16] <gdb> hehe
[09:16] <stopher> i see the default ubuntu page that says the webmaster hasn't loaded any files
[09:16] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: type uname -a and paste the output here
[09:16] <DarkElf109> Pfft. BitchX ftw!
[09:16] <gdb> Bonez56_: I'm really looking forward to Debian 4.0 in December.
[09:16] <Raproid> Hello.
[09:16] <Bonez56_> gdb: the long awaited debian 4 ;)
[09:17] <gdb> :-D
[09:17] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, is there no command I can type to locate my kernel source?
[09:17] <master5o1> Hi
[09:17] <Raproid>  Is here anybody, who know russian language?
[09:17] <Bonez56_> i'm doing all self study for RHCE reading from books... fun fun
[09:17] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: cd /; find -name linux-source*
[09:17] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: might take a bit
[09:17] <Bonez56_> Raproid: /j #ubuntu-ru
[09:17] <Raproid> thanks
[09:17] <master5o1> I love Nintendo!!
[09:17] <doll2> bye
[09:18] <Shinzetsu> gdb: wewt
[09:18] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, thanks!
[09:18] <gdb> Bonez56_: I think RHEL is a pretty slick system (by virtue of being Red Hat) but I have to say that I'm born again when it comes to Debian style package management now. I do miss rpm -V.  Is there a dpkg equivalent? I'm not sure that the relavent checksum information is stored anywhere.
[09:18] <gdb> Shinzetsu: ;-)
[09:18] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- did you get my pm?
[09:18] <Shinzetsu> gdb: #ubuntu > Microsoft support telephone
[09:19] <DamianFinol> gdb mhmh apt-cache show xxx should give you the package info
[09:19] <Bonez56_> gdb: i'm not sure to be honest, don't even know what rpm -V does lol
[09:19] <gdb> I see it in package-name-verison/debian/files in a source package, but I'm not sure how to use that to check installed packages.
[09:19] <odat> hi everyone
[09:19] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: yes but you have to have your nick registered for me to reply. try this: sudo apt-get install libc6-i686
[09:19] <DamianFinol> gdb,  Checksum, version, dependencies, comments, description, etc
[09:19] <bruenig> does anyone have a fix that allows you to have a sound occupying app, rhythmbox or another running, and hear flash in firefox?
[09:19] <DarkElf109> gdb: http://distrocenter.linux.com/distrocenter/06/07/19/1510245.shtml?tid=106&tid=13&tid=96
[09:19] <gdb> DamianFinol: That's not the information I'm looking for, though.  It's the rpm -V information. It indicates which files have been modified, which files have a different checksum, newer modification time, etc, than when installed.
[09:19] <Bonez56_> gdb: i purchased RHEL4 AS from redhat (academic edition) for $60 USD, and loving it. no support but full updates for a year, purely for self-learning
[09:19] <brlancer> what does update-manager download that dist-upgrade wouldn't? dist-upgrade had completed downloads but update-manager wanted another dozen packages
[09:20] <DarkElf109> gdb: Neat article on all sorts of nifty apt utilities
[09:20] <DamianFinol> Ah
[09:20] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- it gave me the same message that it did the first time i tried.
[09:20] <gdb> DamianFinol: ah, thanks!
[09:20] <gdb> bookmarking it now
[09:20] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: paste me the msg in a pm
[09:20] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- ... and my nick is registered.
[09:20] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: great talk to you in pm
[09:20] <Shinzetsu> gdb: where can i see my current display driver?
[09:20] <Shinzetsu> gdb: xorg.conf?
[09:20] <DarkElf109> brlancer: dist-upgrade should cover everything
[09:20] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ah, I think that would be the place to look, yes.
[09:20] <DarkElf109> brlancer: Did you try refreshing after finishing the dist-upgrade
[09:20] <DarkElf109> ?
[09:20] <Shinzetsu> gdb: :D
[09:21] <brlancer> DarkElf109: refreshing?
[09:21] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Or in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:21] <DarkElf109> brlancer: One of the buttons on the bottom...lemme check
[09:21] <Flannel> brlancer: make sure you reinstall the meta packages!
[09:21] <brlancer> DarkElf109: I restarted update-manager
[09:21] <Bonez56_> BeepAU: your nick is still unregged apparently
[09:21] <Shinzetsu> gdb: its nv
[09:21] <NickGarvey> * [BeepAU]  is identified to services
[09:21] <Shinzetsu> gdb: on the nvidia site they tell you to change nv to nvidia
[09:22] <gdb> Shinzetsu: So you're using the free nVidia 2d driver.
[09:22] <brlancer> DarkElf109: I stopped update-manager to futz with mirrors using dist-upgrade; once the downloads were done, I started update-manager again
[09:22] <Shinzetsu> gdb: im using nvidia-glx
[09:22] <DarkElf109> brlancer: Hrm...Probably what Flannel said ;)
[09:22] <darth_gimp> I officially give up...
[09:22] <BeepAU> Bonez56_ -- hmm, well i registered it and identified myself with a password. anyway, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20436
[09:22] <Shinzetsu> gdb: but I think I have to reconfigure xorg to use nvidia instead of nv
[09:22] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: in situations such as yours, where finding the right driver is very unlikely, I suggest you stick to windows for what you need
[09:22] <gdb> Shinzetsu: I have to admit that you're getting beyond me.  My Ubuntu system doesn't have video hardware for which there is a 3D driver.
[09:22] <DarkElf109> brlancer: Ah. That's probably why. update-manager was probably yusing old package lists. It's the "Check" button =)
[09:22] <darth_gimp> I've tried for months now to figure out how to get my tablet working in Linux with pressure sensitivity and nothing works
[09:22] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: I VERY really suggest that
[09:23] <Shinzetsu> gdb: hehe ok np, well it works now anyway so who cares
[09:23] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: but this seems to be one of those situations where its not worth the hassle to try and get something to work, when its just not going to happen
[09:23] <gdb> Shinzetsu: i don't think that's what you need to do.  I believe you can edit the xorg.conf file directly and restart X
[09:23] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, I was following the website set for the driver by WACOM themselves
[09:23] <Shinzetsu> yep, and gedit works from recovery mode :)
[09:23] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: oh?  hmm.. not sure then
[09:23] <brlancer> DarkElf109: what old package list?
[09:23] <Shinzetsu> hehe
[09:23] <NickGarvey> darth_gimp: but.. if you are new to linux.. thats probably quite a project to try and take on
[09:23] <darth_gimp> NickGarvey, I agree and if I could afford to buy windows I would...
[09:23] <gdb> Shinzetsu: I'm using the onboard Intel 945G video that came with my Optiplex GX640
[09:24] <Shinzetsu> gdb :D I had one of those, I have a GeFroce 6200SE now
[09:24] <Shinzetsu> gdb: brb
[09:24] <DarkElf109> brlancer: The things that are downloaded when you do apt-get update. I'm not certain, but I think update-manager uses a different set than apt-get
[09:24] <darth_gimp> I have an ubuntu full install.. how would I now setup a dual boot with windoze?
[09:24] <ripper> i keep getting an error with azureus when i try to open a torrent via firefox, it says its not a file
[09:24] <brlancer> DarkElf109: really? that's wonked :)
[09:24] <gdb> darth_gimp: I've not been following the discussion but I see these 2 packages in the Main repository that are WACOM related.  Are they unhelpful?
[09:24] <gdb> wacom-tools - utilities for wacom tablets and other hid devices
[09:24] <gdb> xserver-xorg-input-wacom - X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver
[09:25] <DarkElf109> brlancer: Not sure, but yeah...just hit the check button in update-anager, and it should update the lists
[09:25] <snoops> tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:25] <gdb> ...
[09:25] <Shinzetsu> o_O
[09:25] <stopher> Does anyone here know if GeoVision Survaillance is compatible with Linux?
[09:25] <DarkElf109> gdb: I tried those out, along with the guide on the wiki...It worked, sort of...I got mouse control with the tablet, but at about once-per-second refresh =/
[09:25] <snoops> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:25] <NickGarvey> !ops
[09:25] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:26] <NickGarvey> thanks :
[09:26] <gdb> Thank you!
[09:26] <NickGarvey> thanks :)
[09:26] <DarkElf109> Thanks!
[09:26] <Bonez56> smokes
[09:26] <ripper> anyone know why azures would be telling me to clear my browswer cache, and that i dont have enough space in /tmp, also that a .torrent isnt a file
[09:26] <darth_gimp> gdb, yep I have both of those packages installed
[09:26] <gdb> I have to say that my *verbal* reaction, had I typed it in here, would have gotten me the boot, too. ;-)
[09:27] <DarkElf109> ripper: "Isn't a file"? What's the exact error message?
[09:27] <ripper> i wish it would stay up long enough to type it out :P
[09:27] <gdb> darth_gimp: Ah, ok.  Well, I apologize for not being much help.  I saw you talking about WACOM and figured I'd chip that in there in case it'd be helpful. :-)
[09:27] <DarkElf109> ripper: Well, for the /tmp thing, check your available disk space, and make sure that /tmp exists and has permissions that allow you to access it
[09:28] <ripper> yes they do
[09:28] <gdb> The permissions on /tmp should always be 1777.
[09:28] <darth_gimp> gdb, no worries
[09:28] <DarkElf109> gdb: Operative word: should =)
[09:28] <gdb> (rwxrwxrwt)
[09:28] <ripper> heh i can open them from azures , just not firefox
[09:28] <gdb> indeed!
[09:28] <ripper> thats not right....
[09:28] <ripper> gdb perms on /tmp are correct
[09:29] <DarkElf109> ripper: What happens when you click on a link to a .torrent?
[09:29] <Talisker[w] > Hi again
[09:29] <Talisker[w] > Where are my samba folders [from other computers]  located on my system?
[09:30] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Are you in GNOME?
[09:30] <Talisker[w] > [I have to learn how to deal with so many tools I'm not used to]
[09:30] <Talisker[w] > Nope
[09:30] <DarkElf109> KDE?
[09:30] <Talisker[w] > ion3
[09:30] <DarkElf109> ...I've never heard of that =)
[09:30] <stopher> Talisker[w] : in network neighborhood
[09:30] <Talisker[w] > stopher, is there an absolute path?
[09:30] <Shinzetsu> gdb: okay this is funny
[09:30] <stopher> ummm
[09:30] <stopher> go to it and just save it
[09:30] <Shinzetsu> gdb: i have the Kubuntu loading screen, the Xubuntu login screen and the Ubuntu shutdown screen
[09:31] <gdb> Shinzetsu: wow
[09:31] <gdb> Shinzetsu: lol
[09:31] <Talisker[w] > I'm not using any file browser other then my terminal at the moment
[09:31] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Ok. I can help now =)
[09:31] <Talisker[w] > and I need access to the network files, O don't know where they are located
[09:32] <Talisker[w] > I guess the guy who installed the system kept them on the default path
[09:32] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : smbtree will show all the network paths on your network
[09:32] <Shinzetsu> gdb: it made ma laugh :P
[09:32] <gdb> Shinzetsu: have you run "dpkg-reconfigure usplash" ?
[09:32] <Talisker[w] > thanks :)
[09:32] <Shinzetsu> gdb: nope, will do now
[09:32] <stopher> Talisker[w]  samba?
[09:32] <gdb> Shinzetsu: worth a shot :-)
[09:32] <Talisker[w] > ...
[09:32] <Talisker[w] > these aren't folders
[09:33] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : From there, once you find a path, the following will let you mount the path: sudo mount -t smbfs //<Host>/<service> <mount dir>
[09:33] <Talisker[w] > cool
[09:33] <DarkElf109> It's a process =)
[09:33] <gdb> oh wow, the usplash control file is wrong
[09:33] <gdb> Section: universe/misc
[09:33] <Jamie> DamianFinol: hum.. i dont have the right to acess it still.
[09:33] <gdb> and it's not in universe... it's in main
[09:33] <Shinzetsu> gdb: hm nothing
[09:34] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Hrm, let me dig.
[09:34] <stopher> well i can't help ya my MSHOME went out
[09:34] <Talisker[w] > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on \MICHAC,
[09:34] <Talisker[w] >        missing codepage or other error
[09:34] <Talisker[w] >        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:34] <Talisker[w] >        dmesg | tail  or so
[09:34] <Jamie> how do I mount /dev/hdb1 to /home/jamie/Arkivet/ so i ahve the rights to acess it..? i must use sudo to mount it.. but now only root ahve access rights.
[09:34] <Talisker[w] > oops, sorry for that paste
[09:35] <Talisker[w] > won't happen again
[09:35] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Replace the backslashes with forward slashes
[09:35] <Talisker[w] > Tried that
[09:35] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : bash reads backslashes oddle
[09:35] <DarkElf109> oddly*
[09:35] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Ah, it's what Bonez56 said earlier: update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so" -- did you run that?
[09:35] <gdb> er sans "
[09:35] <Talisker[w] > oh
[09:35] <Shinzetsu> yeah, i chose the ubuntu one :/
[09:35] <gdb> hrm
[09:35] <Talisker[w] > so I need to double them for the escape char?
[09:36] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Nah. Just use forward slashes
[09:36] <Shinzetsu> gdb: wait lemme show you
[09:36] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Ex: //Michac/blach
[09:36] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Also, make sure the smbfs package is installed
[09:36] <Jamie> anyoen have a sec?
[09:36] <Jamie> how do I mount /dev/hdb1 to /home/jamie/Arkivet/ so i ahve the rights to acess it..? i must use sudo to mount it.. but now only root ahve access rights.
[09:36] <Talisker[w] > OK, that might be the problem
[09:36] <Shinzetsu> gdb: http://www.pastecode.com/3001
[09:36] <Shinzetsu> gdb: see I got the default on
[09:36] <DarkElf109> Jamie: I have a time server. By the justification that it gives me time, I have all the time in my server =)
[09:37] <Jamie> DarkE: hehe funny ^
[09:37] <Shinzetsu> gdb: oh I forgot to copy the last line: "Press enter to keep the default[*] , or type selection number"
[09:37] <k0shi> Senao NL-2511CD PLUS EXT2 200mw PCMCIA WiFi 802.11b   ,  bad idea on ubuntu or not?
[09:37] <DarkElf109> Jamie: mount -t <fs type> -o uid=<username/number> /dev/hdb1 /home/jamie/Arkivet
[09:38] <Shinzetsu> gdb: if * = default then I have the right one right :\
[09:38] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Gimme that card, I want to wardrive!
[09:38] <PyroManiak> how do I set access so I can write into my folders?
[09:38] <munzir> Hi, by default all my commands are on tty pts/0, how can i shift to another tty?
[09:38] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Oh, yes, very good Linux card. Senaos are all outstanding as far as support goes
[09:38] <k0shi> DarkElf109: want a link for one for cheap?
[09:38] <Jamie> DarkE aho.. i see.. let me try.. and whats the proper fstab command?
[09:38] <Jamie> to enter it
[09:38] <DarkElf109> munzir: Ctrl+Alt+F<key>
[09:38] <gdb> Shinzetsu: Yes, * is the one it's using.
[09:38] <k0shi> http://wlanparts.com/product/NL2511CDPLUSEXT2%3A%23Z00
[09:38] <Shinzetsu> gdb: well I get the Xubuntu one
[09:38] <munzir> DarkElf109: it's a sytem I am loggin in using ssh
[09:38] <k0shi> im running Xubuntu now
[09:39] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Thanks =)
[09:39] <k0shi> Youll need an antenna to buy with it as well
[09:39] <DarkElf109> Jamie: That, I'm not sure of...
[09:39] <k0shi> ANTENNA NOT INCLUDED
[09:39] <rast4> can someone help me with su? I typed 'su' in terminal and it asks for the password, and I enter it and it says authentication failure Sory.
[09:39] <Shinzetsu> gdb: lets try and reboot
[09:39] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Meh, I've always wanted to build myself a double biquad =)
[09:39] <k0shi> sudo su
[09:39] <rast4> ty
[09:39] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a problem
[09:39] <k0shi> np
[09:39] <DarkElf109> rast4: Err, no, not sudo su...
[09:39] <zoidberg> my PCMCIA services fail to start at boot
[09:40] <DarkElf109> !sudo
[09:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:40] <zoidberg> does anyone know how i could fix that?
[09:40] <DarkElf109> munzir: Not sure how to do that, then...sorry
[09:40] <rast4> what I"m confused about is I need to run as root to change permissions with my /home folders
[09:40] <zoidberg> anyone?
[09:40] <k0shi> DarkElf109: Will it be easy to install on Xubuntu?
[09:40] <k0shi> that card that is...
[09:40] <florian> hi, is it possible to synchronize the system clock on startup?
[09:40] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Should be. May even be autodetected
[09:40] <DarkElf109> Probably, that is
[09:40] <k0shi> I hope
[09:41] <k0shi> Shit man, if not thatd suck
[09:41] <DarkElf109> !language
[09:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:41] <DarkElf109> florian: Yes
[09:41] <k0shi> Will I be needing to download like masssss drivers?
[09:41] <PyroManiak> Anyone have experience getting a D-Link 650+ working with WEP?
[09:41] <Jamie> now it works.. nice..
[09:41] <DarkElf109> Nope. Shouldn't. If anything at all, you might need the restricted drivers
[09:41] <DarkElf109> !restricted
[09:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:41] <k0shi> 650+ isnt Prism2
[09:41] <k0shi> I know that
[09:41] <florian> DarkElf109: do you know a howto or can you tell me how to do that?
[09:41] <Jamie> ubuntu dosnet have support for playing mp3?
[09:42] <munzir> DarkElf109: np
[09:42] <[Nige] > hi all
[09:42] <[Nige] > how do get a script to run at boot time?
[09:42] <k0shi> Jamie: XMMS is what I use
[09:42] <k0shi> Jamie: sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:42] <Jamie> k0shi: where do i get it
[09:42] <Jamie> tahnx
[09:42] <rast4> DarkElf: if I'm using file manager, I don't have root permission to copy files over, how does one get these permissions?
[09:42] <k0shi> np
[09:43] <Bogaurd> hey guys... i just installed dapper server, and just installed exim4 as my MTA - but i dont have the 'mail' command =\
[09:43] <Shinzetsu> gdb: well I got rid of the kubuntu startup screen but I still have the Xubuntu login
[09:43] <Bogaurd> any idea as to why?
[09:43] <Bonez56> Jamie: you need codecs
[09:43] <DarkElf109> florian: Lookup ntpdate and initscripts
[09:43] <Bonez56> Jamie: you need codecs, not just a player
[09:43] <Shinzetsu> brb
[09:43] <k0shi> I figure xmms is nice and comes with a fair amount of codecs
[09:43] <jeeaar> hmm
[09:43] <DarkElf109> rast4: On your *own* home directory??
[09:43] <PyroManiak> Anyone D-Link 650+ working with WEP? works fine if I disable the wep key inside the router..
[09:44] <jeeaar> would anybody mind helping a new linux user set up his ventrilo server?"
[09:44] <Panserbjorn> Anyone have any idea why moving files from my linux partition to a FAT32 external would keep cutting out after a couple files?
[09:44] <DarkElf109> [Nige] : Copy/move/link a script to /etc/init.d/<scriptname>, give it executable permissions, and run "sudo update-rc.d add <scriptname> defaults"
[09:44] <bbrazil> Panserbjorn: you're run out of diskspace?
[09:44] <rast4> yes DE, I downloaded something to my desktop and I need to copy it over to my /usr/share/amsn/skins folder
[09:44] <rast4> but I have mo permissions
[09:44] <DarkElf109> sudo <command>
[09:44] <[Nige] > thanks DarkElf109
[09:44] <Panserbjorn> bbrazil: Nope, 253GB free
[09:44] <[Nige] > i will give it a gao
[09:44] <DarkElf109> !sudo > rast4
[09:44] <bbrazil> Panserbjorn: files under 2GB?
[09:44] <Panserbjorn> aye, mp3s
[09:45] <k0shi> DarkElf109: What do you mean ill need restriced drivers?
[09:45] <k0shi> like wlan-linux?
[09:45] <Panserbjorn> sometimes a whole folder will transfer
[09:45] <Jamie> how do I make XMMS my standar player?
[09:45] <rast4> ty I will look
[09:45] <Jamie> for mp3's
[09:45] <bbrazil> Panserbjorn: what error is it giving?
[09:45] <k0shi> right click an mp3, change it i think
[09:45] <Bonez56> Jamie: similar to windows, double click a .mp3 file and tell it to always open with xmms
[09:45] <Panserbjorn> bbrazil: no error, moving window just disappears
[09:45] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Some drivers are proprietary...and therefore not included by default for legal reasons
[09:45] <PyroManiak> hmm... the ubuntu help site is down?
[09:45] <bbrazil> Panserbjorn: ah, try using cp from the terminal
[09:45] <Bogaurd> I just installed dapper server, and just installed exim4 as my MTA - but i dont have the 'mail' command =\ - have i forgotten something?
[09:45] <k0shi> Got any links for such drivers?
[09:45] <Talisker[w] > Hi, do I have to somehow reload samba after adding remote shared folders?
[09:46] <Bogaurd> PyroManiak: working fine here...
[09:46] <rast4> yeah I got a time out
[09:46] <Bonez56> Talisker[w] : sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[09:46] <Talisker[w] > Because smbtree won't see them
[09:46] <rast4> on the help page
[09:46] <Talisker[w] > thanks
[09:46] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[09:46] <Panserbjorn> bbrazil: thanks, will try
[09:46] <PyroManiak> Bogaurd: Wonder why it isn't working for me :[
[09:46] <PyroManiak> boguard I'm trying to open https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:46] <Talisker[w] > sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[09:46] <Bogaurd> yah... I wonder why the 'mail' command isnt working for me :(
[09:47] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Oh. Then you don't have samba installed
[09:47] <Talisker[w] > ...
[09:47] <DarkElf109> Bogaurd: Did you try runningit through sudo?
[09:47] <Bogaurd> PyroManiak: ah, you're right. that one's not working.
[09:47] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : sudo apt-get install samba
[09:47] <PyroManiak> I can't get to the wiki site, or the help site
[09:47] <Talisker[w] > I DO have samba
[09:47] <rast4> *sniff* I can't get to the help site either
[09:47] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Wait...are you sharing folders?
[09:47] <k0shi> DarkElf109: I know what youre talking about , i think, got any links for thos restr. drivers?
[09:47] <Bogaurd> DarkElf109, yeah, it just says unknown command?
[09:47] <PyroManiak> Bogaurd: try this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[09:48] <Talisker[w] > Maybe, but I'm trying to access remote folders ATM
[09:48] <DarkElf109> k0shi: they're in the repository
[09:48] <minerale> whoa I never realised how awfully slow ntfs-3g is... I'm copying over a .iso file and this thinks takes *FOREVER*
[09:48] <DarkElf109> !restricted > k0shi
[09:48] <Panserbjorn> bbrazil: would I type something like "cp /home/mark/Desktop/CDs /media/WD/CDs"? I do that and get error
[09:48] <Panserbjorn> bbrazil: haven't used cp before
[09:48] <ireneshusband> inserting my pcmcia wavelan silver into my dapper powerbook causes an instant and total lockup. If I rmmod pcmcia and then insert the card, modprobe pcmcia hangs. Is there anything I can do about this?
[09:48] <Bonez56> remote folders uses smbclient
[09:48] <Bonez56> not samba
[09:48] <DarkElf109> minerale: According to the tests they've done, it's faster than most of the others
[09:48] <Bogaurd> PyroManiak: nope :(
[09:48] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Oh, then, no, shouldn't need to restart anything
[09:48] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Just cd to the folder where you mounted the share
[09:49] <minerale> darkelf109: well, it's using 100 percent cpu on me and i'm du -sh'ing as it goes through, and it's slow
[09:49] <k0shi> DarkElf109: Run that as a command?
[09:49] <DarkElf109> minerale: Well, you might want to tell the author, then =)
[09:49] <Talisker[w] > DarkElf109, I don't think you catch my drift
[09:49] <Talisker[w] > I have a remote folder I need to access
[09:49] <Talisker[w] > and I can't mount it
[09:49] <Talisker[w] > because smbtree won't detect it
[09:49] <Bonez56> Talisker[w] : mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test
[09:49] <k0shi> DarkElf109 is chattin it up tonight damn dude, haha
[09:49] <funkja> I have a computer that I tried to dual boot Vista on and it messed something up and now doesn't detect GRUB. I booted with the ubuntu Live cd and all the grub files are still there. How do I set it to use GRUB?
[09:49] <DarkElf109> !language
[09:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:49] <PyroManiak> Since help isn't working, can someone tell me how to use NDISwrapper with my D-Link 650+?
[09:49] <overflow-1> hi
[09:50] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Hrm...not sure, then. In /etc/samba/smb.conf, is the workgroup setting correct?
[09:50] <overflow-1> On my machine, X is started up with the -nolisten argument; how do i disable that from happening - /usr/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[09:50] <Talisker[w] > DarkElf109, you told me I need to do samba restart
[09:50] <DarkElf109> !restricted
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <Talisker[w] > But I don't know where samba is located on that system
[09:50] <DarkElf109> k0shi: Go to those sites
[09:51] <Talisker[w] > The settings are fine, BTW
[09:51] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : Ignore that. That;'s just for the server
[09:51] <Talisker[w] > Oh
[09:51] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : smbtree *should* show everything...it's just wonkly because it's a windows protocol
[09:51] <DarkElf109> wonky*
[09:51] <DarkElf109> Wow...typing too fast
[09:51] <k0shi> help.ubuntu.com isnt working haha
[09:51] <ireneshusband> does pcmcia work in dapper?
[09:52] <Ribs> the wiki is down as well
[09:52] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: Yes
[09:52] <gdb> damn, sorry for falling quiet
[09:52] <DarkElf109> !language
[09:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:52] <wasauce> anyone have an idea on how to get Wake on lan to work premanently... i.e. so I dont have to have to run the following code before each shutdown? ethtool -s eth0 wol g
[09:52] <gdb> neighbor banging on my door needed to use my phone
[09:52] <ireneshusband> right. so why does inserting my wavelan card in my powerbook cause a lockup?
[09:52] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: Because it's overloaded with dark energy
[09:53] <Jamie> Whats a good player for divx, xvid and such?
[09:53] <gdb> his gf was having a severe athsma attack and couldn't breathe
[09:53] <Talisker[w] > DarkElf109, so what can I do about it?
[09:53] <Jamie> vlc?
[09:53] <gdb> ambulance is over there now with her
[09:53] <ripper> how can i remove a network place from places, it wont let me remove it via right click
[09:53] <ragz> hey, anyone know why i can see myself typing letters outside of the a-z alphabet, and i can see others typing it too, but my letters won't display the way they should in others irc-clients?
[09:53] <ireneshusband> shouldda known :)
[09:53] <Talisker[w] > are you suggesting that I could mount the folder even though it's not in smbtree?
[09:53] <Shinzetsu> gdb: hey I fixed the login window via gnome (system > administration > loginscreen)
[09:53] <gdb> Shinzetsu: oh cool! lol
[09:53] <gdb> Didn't think it'd be that easy. lol
[09:53] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: http://www.popsci.com/popsci/computerselec/b49dd4d03cb84010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html
[09:54] <minerale> darkelf109: as of a last minute hasty calculation: I'm getting 52mb per minute write speed using ntfs 3g, is that anywhere close to what other ntfs drives give ?
[09:54] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : I...don't know...not really sure
[09:54] <ripper> nvm i got it
[09:54] <DarkElf109> minerale: Also don't know...check up on the original ntfs-3g announcement. Stats were listed there
[09:55] <jeeaar> ok, ive got a file: "ventrilo_srv", on my desktop, and id like to execute it, but I dont know what to put into my terminal, i r noob
[09:55] <Talisker[w] > ...
[09:55] <Talisker[w] > I'm stuck
[09:55] <DarkElf109> Jamie: Xine, VLC both work, but fot the former, you'll need codecs
[09:55] <Shinzetsu> gdb: gonna have breakfast now, then remove all that kde stuff brb
[09:55] <Shinzetsu> Shinzetsu^AFK
[09:55] <Shinzetsu^AFK> forgot /nick :-) bye
[09:55] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: cd to /home/<username>/Desktop, then type ./ventrilo_srv, and hit returm
[09:56] <k0shi> DarkElf109: sorry to bog you down with the same question, but is there anywhere else for such drivers?
[09:56] <DarkElf109> !automatix
[09:56] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:56] <jeeaar> cd stands for?
[09:56] <DarkElf109> There. A link that actually works =)
[09:56] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: Change Directory
[09:56] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: It's a command
[09:56] <jeeaar> ok, so i have to set a directory before i can execute under it?
[09:56] <redblades> Hi, how do I install ubuntu with the X installer?
[09:57] <redblades> As in, just use it normally, not a live CD
[09:57] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: No, but it makes more sense. If it creates any extra files, it usually drops them in the working directory if the location isn't explicitly set
[09:57] <redblades> The box I'm planning to use it fairly slowish
[09:57] <jeeaar> ok, cool
[09:57] <jeeaar> thx
[09:57] <DarkElf109> redblades: TRhere should be an icon on the desktop when you boot with the LiveCD installer that say "IOnstall Ubuntu". Double-click it
[09:57] <redblades> DarkE
[09:58] <DarkElf109> Gah...can't type this fast...
[09:58] <redblades> DarkElf109, I want to use the non-X installer.
[09:58] <DarkElf109> redblades: Ah. Then you'll need the alternate install CD
[09:58] <Jamie> hum.. anyoen running VLC media player on linux?
[09:58] <ireneshusband> would replacing the ubuntu kernel with a more vanilla one reduce the pcmcia-related dark energy, or would that just leave me with bigger problems?
[09:58] <DarkElf109> Jamie: I am =)
[09:58] <Jamie> DarkElf: how do i get it and install apt cant find it
[09:58] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: It may or may not remove the pcmcia problem...it also may or may not introduce new problems
[09:59] <DarkElf109> !automatix > Jamie
[09:59] <redblades> DarkElf109, where might I find the link for that? I can't locate it on the Ubuntu site...
[09:59] <ireneshusband> ah
[09:59] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: What happens, exactly? You plug it in, and the computer shuts off?
[10:00] <DarkElf109> redblades: Any download mirror, just find the "alternate install cd" link
[10:00] <k0shi> DarkElf109: Know any good resources for WiFi card installation on linux?
[10:00] <ireneshusband> locks up completely and utterly. no ctrl-alt-F?. no nuthin.
[10:00] <munzir> Hi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ doesn't work for me. Only me?
[10:00] <k0shi> no
[10:00] <DarkElf109> k0shi: The wiki that's down and making this oh so much harder =)
[10:00] <k0shi> wiki is down
[10:01] <k0shi> its beeeen down
[10:01] <JoshHendo> yea, I just noticed that
[10:01] <munzir> bad
[10:01] <JoshHendo> do you know how long?
[10:01] <redblades> Oh.... dear....
[10:01] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: Restart the computer in single user mode (recovery mode, I think GRUB calls it by default), and try inserting it. Might simply be an X problems
[10:01] <redblades> I forgot... if I download it... I'll exceed my limit.
[10:02] <jeeaar> has anybody here worked with ventrilo in the past?
[10:02] <minerale> Hi, how can I issue a 'eject cd' command through the command line ?
[10:02] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: Server or client?
[10:02] <jeeaar> server
[10:02] <DarkElf109> Sorry, can't help ya
[10:02] <jeeaar> :(
[10:02] <due> I'm having issues with shutting my new install of Dapper down; it's a laptop, Dell, apparently it was an issue with the ipw2200 (found some posts about it from a few years ago), but even modprobe -r before shutdown still makes it hang on "Mounting the root filesystem read only".
[10:02] <jeeaar> i think i have the server running, i just dont think ive defined a connection point.
[10:02] <DarkElf109> minerale: man eject
[10:03] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: ps -A | grep ventrilo
[10:03] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: That'll let you know if it's running or not
[10:03] <ireneshusband> when  i try booting with the card inserted I get a raft of kernel error messages and a failed boot, way before x starts. I'll have to try crashing the puter again to get a summary unfortunately.
[10:04] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: Funny thing, XP actually has a key combo that can be set in the registry to crash the computer on command =P
[10:04] <ireneshusband> and when i rmmod pcmcia and insert the card, modprobe pcmcia hangs (but the system doesn't)
[10:05] <NickGarvey> DarkElf109: ctrl scroll scroll :)
[10:05] <NickGarvey> DarkElf109: instant BSOD
[10:05] <DarkElf109> ireneshusband: What kind of card was it again? I'll do some research in the meantime
[10:05] <ireneshusband> that xp key combo is like trying to remember how to fall over when you are drunk
[10:06] <nathanl> hello, I'm having trouble with EasyUbuntu...I cant seem to connect to freecontrib
[10:06] <ireneshusband> wavelan silver (orinoco)
[10:06] <nathanl> it keeps timing out when I try to connect
[10:06] <DarkElf109> NickGarvey: Well, there's one for Linux too, but it's 6 key combos in a string that all involve both ctrl and scroll lock...I never remembered the nemonic for the commands, though =/
[10:06] <jeeaar> DarkElf109 im getting "28650 pts/0    00:00:00 ventrilo_srv
[10:06] <jeeaar> "
[10:06] <jay> Hi
[10:06] <rast4> is aMSN crappy white texting that is super hard to read?
[10:06] <NickGarvey> DarkElf109: um.. alt sysrq b might do it
[10:06] <rast4> I tried to change it, but I can't...
[10:07] <DarkElf109> NickGarvey: Something about elephants was definitely in there...
[10:07] <DarkElf109> NickGarvey: Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring.
[10:07] <DarkElf109> http://www.pcsympathy.com/contentid-41.html
[10:08] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: That means that it's running
[10:08] <jay> [Help?]  When i try to install RealPlayer10GOLD.bin on my ubuntu, it tells: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:08] <jay> ? ------Whatcan I do?
[10:08] <srikanthssn> how do i change desktop frm GNOME to KDE.. i installed KDE frm ubuntu dvd.. any help plz
[10:08] <jeeaar> hmm
[10:08] <jeeaar> ok
[10:08] <_JECKEL_> so how would I put kde on if I allready got the version with gnome?
[10:08] <NickGarvey> _JECKEL_: I don't understand
[10:09] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:09] <_JECKEL_> cool
[10:09] <_JECKEL_> tnx
[10:09] <NickGarvey> oh thats what he was asking
[10:09] <jeeaar> DarkElf109: Does being behind a router mean i need to set permissions in the router settings?
[10:09] <NickGarvey> jeeaar: that means you have a little box between your modem and your computer
[10:09] <nathanl> Could someone help me?
[10:10] <NickGarvey> nathan_: what can we do for you?
[10:10] <jeeaar> NickGarvey: very clever
[10:10] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: No idea. Never ran a ventrilo server
[10:10] <cry0gen> NickGarvey: :D PEBKAC
[10:10] <NickGarvey> ah :)
[10:10] <nathanl> I cant connect to freecontrib.org, as I was trying to get easyubuntu, so I could download whatever I needed to listen to mp3's
[10:10] <goblyn> how do i restart x?
[10:10] <_JECKEL_> yeah..seems to be no problems with the router I just got
[10:10] <DarkElf109> goblyn: From a terminal: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:11] <DarkElf109> He was using XChat =)
[10:11] <nathanl> so, does anyone have the easyubuntu.tar file or am i out of luck?
[10:11] <NickGarvey> nathanl: hmm, I think you can apt-get install lame (I believe)
[10:11] <_JECKEL_> I plan on putting ubuntu on my coming laptop
[10:11] <_JECKEL_> how well is the wireless support?
[10:11] <NickGarvey> !mp3 > nathanl
[10:11] <_JECKEL_> about as well as I can make it?
[10:11] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: I'd send you to the wiki page about it, but the wiki is down =)
[10:12] <NickGarvey> nathanl: but the server is down..
[10:12] <DarkElf109> Ubuntu has some of, if not the, best hardware support of any linux distro
[10:12] <nathanl> yeah
[10:12] <_JECKEL_> no problem..I'm not getting the laptop till x-mas
[10:12] <nathanl> for some reason the ubuntu page doesnt like me
[10:13] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Even if your card's not natively supported, there's always ndiswrapper
[10:13] <_JECKEL_> how is 64 bit ubuntu?
[10:13] <DarkElf109> nathanl: Not just you. The server's down
[10:13] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with partitioning
[10:13] <NickGarvey> _JECKEL_: its.. very 64 bit.. not dual arch...
[10:13] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Same as standard, except you'll need to get 32-bit firefox if you want flash, etc.
[10:13] <_JECKEL_> plan on having at least a 64 bit OS installed even though i'll have 32 bit windows
[10:13] <DarkElf109> shekhar: Probably =)
[10:14] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[10:14] <_JECKEL_> does ubuntu support dual cores?
[10:14] <NickGarvey> nathanl: try "apt-get install mpg321"
[10:14] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  i want to create an extended partition on my HD but gparted won't allow me
[10:14] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Honestly, you're much better off with 32 bit...codecs and other proprietary stuff requires it
[10:14] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Yeah
[10:14] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Heck, it supoports multiple processors
[10:14] <DarkElf109> All Linuxes do =)
[10:14] <_JECKEL_> I could allways upgrade later I suppose
[10:14] <DarkElf109> shekhar: Won't let you?
[10:14] <_JECKEL_> not like the 64 bit processors can't run 32 bit stuff anyway.
[10:14] <NickGarvey> shekhar: how many partitions do you have now?
[10:15] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Like I said, better off with 32 bit
[10:15] <_JECKEL_> but i'd rather be prepared...FOR THE FUTURE!
[10:15] <DarkElf109> lol
[10:15] <DarkElf109> 128-bit processors!
[10:15] <synd3> http://www.system76.com/index.php/cPath/53_64
[10:15] <_JECKEL_> future uture ture ure re re e
[10:15] <DarkElf109> Well...AMD is working on the 4-core proc
[10:15] <synd3> Get your free powered by ubuntu stickers!
[10:15] <NickGarvey> wow
[10:15] <shekhar> NickGarvey DarkElf109 : i have three already and want a fourth, so i am deleting the third one and trying to create it as an extended partition
[10:15] <rast4_> how would I download BitchX with UbuntU
[10:15] <nathanl> NickGarvey: apt-get install lame doesnt work
[10:16] <NickGarvey> shekhar: and what is it not letting you do?
[10:16] <rast4_> xchat is yuck
[10:16] <_JECKEL_> sucks that nothing really ever gets supported till microsoft gets off it's ass
[10:16] <NickGarvey> rast4: probably apt-get install bitchx
[10:16] <rast4_> ty
[10:16] <DarkElf109> rast4_: sudo apt-get install bitchx
[10:16] <synd3> rast4_: Irssi
[10:16] <NickGarvey> nathanl: do the second one, mpg321
[10:16] <shekhar> NickGarvey DarkElf109 : it doesn't give me the option to format as extended partition in gparted format dialogue
[10:16] <nathanl> ok
[10:16] <_JECKEL_> i'm expecting vista to completley get rid of the keyboard and all to be nothing more than point and click
[10:16] <_JECKEL_> and no abillity to delete anything
[10:16] <_JECKEL_> yay..idiot proofing.
[10:16] <rast4_> Vista isn't the greatest thing
[10:16] <NickGarvey> nathanl: here let me give you the page I am looking at
[10:17] <rast4_> I'm beta testing it and have been since the beginning
[10:17] <nathanl> NickGarvey: mpg321 is already the newest version.
[10:17] <NickGarvey> nathanl: http://tinyurl.com/loavd
[10:17] <rast4_> It's just a rip off of a Mac and linux
[10:17] <rast4_> and the cost of Vista is going to be crazy
[10:17] <NickGarvey> nathanl: don't click any of the links on that page though, they won't work
[10:17] <synd3> rast4_: What does Vista take from Linux?
[10:17] <PyroManiak> why is the wiki down??
[10:17] <DarkElf109> PyroManiak: Because it's not up
[10:17] <rast4_> they tried to base their security and their cmd off it
[10:17] <rast4_> they are comparing it themselves with the security of a stable linux
[10:17] <Madpilot> DarkElf109, +1 ;)
[10:18] <PyroManiak> DarkElf109: har har.... I meant, was it down for maintainence... or just down?
[10:18] <DarkElf109> PyroManiak: Well, nobody's announced anything, so AFAIK, it's just down
[10:18] <DarkElf109> I'm guessing that the server was attacked by an elite squad of Microsoft's Nija Lawyers out for revenge
[10:18] <DarkElf109> See Bug #1 for reference
[10:19] <DarkElf109> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[10:19] <sethk> DarkElf109, or perhaps too many people were hitting it at once?  Less interesting, I know, but ...
[10:19] <Tonren> hey guys, what's a goood app for viewing FLV files, or converting them?
[10:19] <DarkElf109> sethk: I doubt it. Those servers can take a beating
[10:19] <Tarandus> Tonren: AFAIK mplayer works for that
[10:20] <DevGet> I'm trying to connect a ubuntu station to wlan, but when I run, I only get a lot of DHCPDISCOVER and no connection, what's worng?
[10:20] <Tonren> Tarandus: I don't have sound, and it's choppy.  Do I need another plugin?
[10:20] <DevGet> when I scanned I found my wlan
[10:20] <Tarandus> Tonren: How fast is your machine?
[10:20] <NickGarvey> DevGet: oh.. I had that problem.. which is why.. I use suse now..
[10:20] <DarkElf109> DevGet: Are your wireless settings configured properly?
[10:20] <rast4_> E: Couldn't find package BitchX
[10:20] <Tonren> DevGet: Have you run sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any ?
[10:20] <Tonren> Tarandus: 1.8 GHz 758 megs of RAM
[10:20] <NickGarvey> rast4: try apt-cache search bitchx then
[10:20] <Tonren> Tarandus: When I stream the same video from YouTube, it runs fine
[10:20] <nathanl> NickGarvey: I'm installing those, so hopefully they'll help, I'll let you know
[10:20] <DevGet> Tonren: no?
[10:21] <Tarandus> Tonren: That should be fast enough.  Have you tried -vo xv ?
[10:21] <DarkElf109> !source-o-matic > rast4_
[10:21] <DevGet> DarkElf109: yes
[10:21] <Tonren> DevGet: Wireless in Ubuntu works just like in windows: You have to tell it which access point to use
[10:21] <Shinzetsu^AFK> back
[10:21] <DarkElf109> Shinzetsu: Welcome back
[10:21] <rast4_> ty all around
[10:21] <Shinzetsu> DarkElf109: thanks :-)
[10:21] <Tarandus> DevGet: I got my WLAN working by using gnome-network-manager
[10:21] <Tonren> DevGet: Run ' sudo iwconfig ethX ap any ' and HTEN sudo dhclient ethX, where X is the # of your wlan connection
[10:21] <Tonren> Tarandus: What is -vo xv...?
[10:21] <DevGet> Tonren: I have runed iwconfig ra0 essid <myessid>
[10:22] <Tonren> DevGet: In iwconfig, does it confirm that it has connected to that AP?
[10:22] <DarkElf109> Hrm...I need to do a certain amount of community service per year of High School because of a program that I'm in...who would I get to sign the form to verify that I worked X number of hours in this room?
[10:22] <Tarandus> DevGet: network-manager displays the networks in a menu, and it works out of the box if you have no static IP addresses
[10:22] <Tonren> Tarandus: What's the command line for mplayer ? It doesn't appear to be mplayer
[10:22] <PyroManiak> Wlan0: Duplicate Address Detected! <-- What does this mean, how can I fix?
[10:23] <DarkElf109> Not that that's why I'm here, but...would be nice if I could use it for that =)
[10:23] <DarkElf109> PyroManiak: Means that somebody else on your network is already using your IP
[10:23] <Tonren> Tarandus: Is mplayer just totem?
[10:23] <DarkElf109> PyroManiak: sudo dhclient wlan0 SHOULD fix it if you're using DHCP
[10:23] <DarkElf109> PyroManiak: If you've got a static address, go beat up the person trying to steal your address
[10:23] <DevGet> Tonren: yes, there is som numbers after access point
[10:24] <Tonren> DevGet: Hmm.. .not sure what your prob is
[10:24] <Tarandus> Tonren: mplayer is a separate package, not related to totem
[10:24] <Tonren> Tarandus: ooo.
[10:24] <Tarandus> Tonren: and yes, the commandline is mplayer
[10:24] <Tonren> Tarandus: Totem is sneaky
[10:24] <DarkElf109> Tarandus: There is a GTK mplayer client, however
[10:24] <DevGet> may I should try NetworkManager?
[10:24] <Tonren> Tarandus: Its "name" in Applications menu is just "Movie Player"
[10:25] <DarkElf109> Tonren: The idea is that, for the average user, it's the Movie Player that they should use
[10:25] <Tarandus> Tonren: that's something I'm opposed to in Gnome
[10:25] <DarkElf109> You can always rename them
[10:25] <DarkElf109> And don't blame GNOME, blame the Ubuntu devs
[10:25] <Tonren> Tarandus: I don't think I have the "xv" video output driver
[10:26] <DarkElf109> By default, it would appear as Totem
[10:26] <Tonren> Tarandus: How do I get it?
[10:26] <Tonren> DarkElf109: That's too far in the direction of "user friendly" .    I haven't played anything with mplayer in Ubuntu.  With gentoo, the xv output plugin comes automatically.
[10:26] <NickGarvey> nathanl: I use mplayer from the command line heh
[10:27] <DarkElf109> Jamie: Pray really really hard =)
[10:27] <NickGarvey> nathanl: (no I'm not :))
[10:27] <DarkElf109> Jamie: I'd give better advice, but the wiki's down =/
[10:27] <Tarandus> Tonren: So I'd guess that it is there too in Ubuntu
[10:27] <rast4_> I have no idea how to use the link I got from you DE
[10:27] <rast4_> :(
[10:27] <Tonren> Tarandus: Oh, I didn't realize that you MUST supply a file argument to mplayer
[10:27] <Tonren> Tarandus: I'm still not getting any sound
[10:27] <PyroManiak> DarkElf109: Ok, apparently the router didn't have enough IP's given for the DHCP server.. all better now
[10:27] <DarkElf109> nathanl: Choose a different output method
[10:27] <Tonren> Tarandus: Oh.. running without -vo xv gives me sound.  Weird. Whatev!
[10:28] <DarkElf109> rast4_: Just select all the official ones...then save that file as /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:28] <Tarandus> Tonren: That exceeds my tolerance for weirdness, and so I have no idea why it does that.  Maybe try to specify a sound output plugin too.
[10:28] <Shinzetsu> gdb: my school forces me to run winxp on my macbook =o
[10:28] <nathanl> NickGarvey: is there an arts plugin for amarok?
[10:28] <Shinzetsu> sorry #offtopic
[10:28] <Tonren> Tarandus: It runs fine with no other arguments, actually.  Weird
[10:29] <rast4_> ok I'll try
[10:29] <NickGarvey> nathanl: not even sure what arts stands for :) (I did.. 2 days ago though..)
[10:29] <Tarandus> Tonren: Then again, does the -vo xv help with the playback speed of flv files?
[10:29] <gdb> Shinzetsu: omg, that's evil
[10:29] <Pntkl> hi
[10:29] <Tonren> Tarandus: Nope.  Playback is fine without -vo xv.
[10:29] <DarkElf109> Pntkl: Heya
[10:29] <Jamie> DarkElf109 heh.. so u dont realy know?
[10:29] <Shinzetsu> gdb: I refuse :-)
[10:29] <Tarandus> Tonren: If not, then I'd assume it uses xv output by default.
[10:29] <Jamie> DarkElf109 but it shoudl be possible right?
[10:29] <DarkElf109> Jamie: Depends on your card, etc.
[10:29] <Tonren> Tarandus: Only in mplayer though.  Totem hosed it.
[10:29] <Tarandus> Tonren: Ok
[10:29] <Jamie> DarkElf109: i ahve Gforce 4
[10:30] <DarkElf109> Jamie: Yeah. The wiki just does a much better job than I ever could of trying to figure it out
[10:30] <nathanl> lol, ok
[10:30] <Tonren> Tarandus: Potentially, anyway.  Whatever.. it works, I'm happy. :)  sometimes delving just ain't worth it.  Now I'm gonna get some sleep
[10:30] <Tonren> thanks all
[10:30] <Tonren> g'night
[10:30] <Shinzetsu> night
[10:30] <Jamie> DarkElf109: ok.. what is winki?
[10:30] <nathanl> now I'm at a loss
[10:30] <nathanl> what do I do now?
[10:30] <DarkElf109> Jamie: The wiki is the central repository for all ubuntu support material...it just happens to be down right now
[10:31] <rast4_> DE: does it save it automatically to that location or am I suppose to save it somehow? I got a new page with information on it, nothing to save on it.
[10:31] <nathanl> yeah I know, and I cant connect to freecontrib for some reason
[10:31] <_JECKEL_> there's also like two books on ubuntu out there
[10:31] <DarkElf109> nathanl: Ok. Go to Amarok settings, the engine page, and try all the different output plugins
[10:31] <_JECKEL_> saw em at the book store
[10:31] <nathanl> DarkElf109: I've done that, same problem
[10:31] <DarkElf109> Oh. It might be a codec thing, then
[10:32] <yey> hi
[10:32] <yey> I have a problem with 'colorgcc', it doesn't color anything when it's called by vim's ":make"
[10:32] <DarkElf109> rast4_: You're supposed to save that page
[10:32] <DarkElf109> !sources.list
[10:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:32] <DarkElf109> That's for you, rast
[10:32] <yey> I have already in my .vimrc: set makeprg=colorgcc\ -Wall\ -O2\ -o\ %:r.bin\ %
[10:32] <rast4_> thank you for your info and tolerance :D
[10:32] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  i think i've figured out the extended partition problem
[10:32] <_JECKEL_> anyone know where I can find more pointer sets?
[10:33] <DarkElf109> shekhar: Really? What was it?
[10:33] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  now when i have mounted the partition it says i do not have permissions to copy files to it
[10:33] <yey> I have a problem with 'colorgcc', it doesn't color anything when it's called by vim's ":make"
[10:33] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  do i need to do something special in /etc/fstab?
[10:33] <DarkElf109> shekhar: What partition type?
[10:33] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  ext3
[10:34] <DarkElf109> Either access it as root, or change the permissions
[10:34] <yey> I have a problem with 'colorgcc', it doesn't color anything when it's called by vim's ":make"
[10:34] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  the whole reason i'm doing this is because the earlier fat3 partition didn't save unix permissions
[10:34] <shekhar> err, fat32
[10:34] <DarkElf109> Yeah, just chmod -r the directory that it's mounted at to your user as root
[10:34] <NickGarvey> shekhar: if you are just backing things up, you can tar them and put them in the fat32 partition
[10:34] <DarkElf109> sudo chmod -r <username> <mountpoint>
[10:34] <yey> I have a problem with 'colorgcc', it doesn't color anything when it's called by vim's ":make". Could you help me?
[10:35] <NickGarvey> shekhar: but, windows can read write ext3 file systems, so you should little need for fat32
[10:35] <DarkElf109> yey: We hear your question, and if anybody knew the answer, they'd tell you =)
[10:35] <yey> DarkElf109: ;P
[10:35] <rast4> DE: can you do that with an NTFS partition to be able to write to it without damaging it with the dual boot?
[10:35] <NickGarvey> rast4: ntfs write is not generally a good think
[10:35] <NickGarvey> thing*
[10:36] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  shekhar@nowhereman:~$ sudo chmod -r shekhar /mnt/data
[10:36] <shekhar> chmod: cannot access `shekhar': No such file or directory
[10:36] <shekhar> oops sorry
[10:36] <NickGarvey> rast4: it CAN be done.. but its all experimental and such
[10:36] <DarkElf109> rast4: There are ways. They're all unstable and dangerous at the moment, but there are ways
[10:36] <_JECKEL_> eh..ntfs damaged by dual boot?
[10:36] <_JECKEL_> oh shi-
[10:36] <DarkElf109> shekhar: Whoops! chown...not chmod
[10:36] <rast4> like i can't write to my ntfs mount points
[10:36] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Nonono
[10:36] <rast4> so I was wondering if I could change permissions so I could
[10:36] <shekhar> NickGarvey:  so i can store windows apps on the ext3 partition?
[10:36] <rast4> but I hear about possible damaging
[10:36] <rast4> so I'm not in
[10:36] <NickGarvey> shekhar: yup
[10:36] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Writing to NTFS from Linux
[10:36] <rast4> :D
[10:36] <NickGarvey> shekhar: but you need a special driver
[10:37] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Risky stuff, if you value your data
[10:37] <_JECKEL_> oh
[10:37] <NickGarvey> !ext3
[10:37] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:37] <_JECKEL_> pfft
[10:37] <NickGarvey> shekhar: use that ^
[10:37] <yey> rast4: ntfs drivers have been already intensively tested and they work well, I think that you should give them a try.
[10:37] <_JECKEL_> why would I do that?
[10:37] <shekhar> NickGarvey:  thanks!
[10:37] <NickGarvey> shekhar: :)
[10:37] <_JECKEL_> if anything i'd rather put as much windows stuff into linux than the other way around
[10:37] <rast4> what about making it so I can just write to my ext2 partition so I don't have to go in terminal and sudo su
[10:37] <shekhar> DarkElf109:  chown worked, thanks!
[10:37] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: You can play chick by copying large files over and over again with a friend...
[10:38] <DarkElf109> shekhar: =)
[10:38] <DarkElf109> chicken*
[10:38] <DarkElf109> \Gah
[10:38] <nathanl> this is just ridiculous
[10:38] <_JECKEL_> only real reason I have windows still here is simply because Wine sorta sucks at running some windows apps. like games
[10:38] <nathanl> for the life of me I cant get it to work
[10:38] <_JECKEL_> linux suxorz for games. :\
[10:38] <rast4> I run Vista and XP Pro's
[10:38] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: TuxRacer is great!
[10:38] <rast4> I'm migrating over though, but I need to get back into *nix
[10:38] <ardchoille> I *do* value my data.. that's why I refuse to use anything that comes from Microsoft ;)
[10:39] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: So is UT2k4, Doom3, etc.
[10:39] <Rookie-> if any likes win apps so much ... why emigrate to linux ... ?
[10:39] <DarkElf109> Ugh...new school year starts in 30 hours
[10:39] <_JECKEL_> perhaps if I simply ran windows in an emulator...perhaps then I could get games to properly work..
[10:40] <_JECKEL_> not wine..but an actual emulator
[10:40] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: They'd work, at about a 20-30% or more speed loss
[10:40] <NickGarvey> DarkElf109: 20 days for me :)
[10:40] <rast4> I don't like the apps, I use it because it's what 99.8% of my clients use, so I need to use it in order to interact with them
[10:40] <_JECKEL_> well here's the things...I like linux because of the power it gives me as an individual user
[10:40] <_JECKEL_> and that...
[10:40] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: It gives you no power as a user, unless you run as root =P
[10:41] <steveO_> Wonder if WINE would run Listen's Rhapsody client...
[10:41] <_JECKEL_> the fact that most of the world around me uses windows
[10:41] <_JECKEL_> face it..as a linux user..you're almost sorta like  a mac user....cept not as hated.
[10:41] <NickGarvey> hahaha
[10:41] <nathanl> NickGarvey: I got it to work
[10:41] <Rookie-> Well, what about the kernel? the security on atleast 2 levels - local and network ... the option to make a system that the user like ....
[10:41] <DarkElf109> Nah. As a Linux user, I actually have an argument that's better than "It has a better user interface"
[10:41] <yey> STiKi-: 10:37 < rast4> what about making it so I can just write to my ext2 partition so I don't have to go in terminal and sudo su
[10:42] <NickGarvey> nathanl: :) good
[10:42] <yey> damn it
[10:42] <DarkElf109> !language
[10:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:42] <Jamie> any good cdburner for ubuntu?
[10:42] <NickGarvey> Jamie: k3b/gnomebaker
[10:42] <nathanl> for dapper you have to install libxine-extracodecs
[10:42] <rast4> yey: you have an answer?
[10:42] <Jamie> NickHravey: thank you sir.. will look into them
[10:42] <yey> rast4: no
[10:42] <DarkElf109> Jamie: A bunch come with the system. Look in Applications> Sound & Video
[10:43] <Rookie-> if you install everything on ubuntu and i mean everything including gnome ... how much would it be ... ? 4 - 5 GB .. ?
[10:43] <nathanl> thanks NickGarvey, I'm out.
[10:43] <NickGarvey> night
[10:43] <DarkElf109> rast4: Oh, you shouldn't be using 'sudo su'. That's bad. Use 'sudo -s' instead
[10:43] <DarkElf109> Rookie-: Everything? Maybe a 1-200 gigs
[10:43] <_JECKEL_> I also decided to look into linux because I like (or rather liked) MUD games
[10:43] <DarkElf109> Rookie-: There are over 18.5 THOUSAND packages for Ubuntu
[10:44] <Rookie-> hmm ... i dont coulnt openoffice or such tings ...
[10:44] <_JECKEL_> and trying to run my own on an emulator (Cygwin) was fine...but..I wanted the real thing.
[10:44] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: Heh. I used to play MU*s fervently...good stuff
[10:44] <Rookie-> i just thinking of the system ... libs and so on
[10:44] <_JECKEL_> I used to be imm on a few DBZ muds
[10:44] <DarkElf109> Rookie-: Oh...you mean a default install?
[10:44] <_JECKEL_> but they all went down
[10:44] <_JECKEL_> which sucks
[10:44] <_JECKEL_> I miss it. :\
[10:44] <rast4> ok DE
[10:45] <DarkElf109> I'm a fantasy RPG fan...what can I say?
[10:45] <Rookie-> well yes ... and no ... default isnt more then 1 or 2 cd's ... that is about 2 GB ... maybe 3 ...
[10:45] <rast4_> I love RPG's
[10:45] <DarkElf109> I was in one for a while...an RP-heavy SciFi mining station sim. That was a good time
[10:45] <rast4_> I'm about to play Sacred
[10:45] <Kzar_fr> Hi ! Does anybody use RAKI and / or SynCE ?
[10:45] <Rookie-> why i asking is that i thinking to try ubuntu on desktop ... i running servers now
[10:46] <_JECKEL_> and yeah...if I get a good enough computer and just run apps from an emulator then I can just do that without worry of speed loss
[10:47] <DarkElf109> Rookie-: Ah. Well, then, yeah, shouldn't be more than 5 or 6 gigs... I'd say even a 10 gig HDD would cover you
[10:47] <DarkElf109> Not sure where you could find a new HDD under 40, though
[10:47] <jeeaar> hmm
[10:47] <Rookie-> ur right, i cant
[10:47] <rast4> I partitioned a 60 gb HD
[10:47] <jeeaar> are there any good win32 environemt emulators?
[10:47] <ramvi> Hi! My HP PhotoSmart-8200 only prints the first page... What do I do?
[10:47] <rast4> 10gb for ubuntu
[10:47] <Rookie-> 40 is the smallest ...
[10:47] <rast4> 2gb swap
[10:48] <rast4> 28gb for storage
[10:48] <rast4> and like 18gb for windoze main
[10:48] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: Environment?
[10:48] <DarkElf109> ramvi: Print each page as a single print job ;)
[10:48] <ramvi> DarkElf109, hehe, I was thinking more about having it work ;)
[10:49] <Rookie-> pretty big system ... since most other dists isnt more then 2-3 GB at default including a Xwin ...
[10:49] <Kzar_fr> jeeaar, Wine.
[10:49] <DarkElf109> ramvi: Come on, man! Back in my day, we had to transcribe the pages by hand! And we didn't even have ink! Had to etch it right into the stone tablets!
[10:49] <jeeaar> haha, sorry if my terminology is hazy, a more refined question would be "is there any way I can run an application in linux, that would normally only work in windows"
[10:49] <Kzar_fr> jeeaar, Wine
[10:49] <rast4_> lol DE
[10:49] <Rookie-> crossfire too ...
[10:49] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: Wine, if you want to run it semi-natively
[10:49] <NickGarvey> jeeaar: wine is wha you are looking for
[10:50] <rast4_> is wine really all that great of a program?
[10:50] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: If you want to emulate a full Windows install, there's qemu, or, if you want to pay, VMWare
[10:50] <ramvi> rast4, wine is amazing
[10:50] <rast4_> is it free?
[10:50] <DarkElf109> Yup!
[10:50] <rast4_> score!
[10:50] <_JECKEL_> yeah
[10:50] <rast4_> got a link?
[10:50] <Kzar_fr> rast4, Free as in Free speech, yes.
[10:50] <DarkElf109> Speech AND beer!
[10:50] <Rookie-> winex is not free ... bit better thou
[10:50] <Kzar_fr> rast4, sudo apt-get install wine
[10:50] <rast4_> even speech isn't fre in USA anymore
[10:50] <rast4_> ty
[10:50] <_JECKEL_> I must say...Wine though..you gotta put a little work into getting some things to work sometimes
[10:51] <DarkElf109> !winetools
[10:51] <jeeaar> correct me if im wrong, but for games and such, wine still wont allow video drivers to be installed, will it?
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winetools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <DarkElf109> Grr
[10:51] <rast4_> it's just to run windows apps correct?
[10:51] <_JECKEL_> it cost a buck fitty for speech
[10:51] <florian> hi, on startup "staring kernel event managaer" fails. I guess it has something to do with the use of insserv. what can I do to solve the problem?
[10:51] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: You *can* do it, but it's hard.  During your month, install Windows and do the setups you like. After that, install vmware-player (is in the repos). Then you have it working.
[10:52] <nearfar> how do I *completely* remove kubuntu (from ubuntu)? 'apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop' only removes the meta package.
[10:52] <yo2lux> What I need to do to add windows fonts to ubuntu firefox ?
[10:52] <DarkElf109> jeeaar: Cedega is a fork of Wine that's been modified for better game support
[10:52] <DarkElf109> nearfar: It's in the wiki...which is down
[10:53] <nearfar> DarkElf109: what would be the 'page title' like? I will get it from google cache.
[10:53] <sethk> yo2lux, copy them into a directory that is in the font path.  You can find the font path in the X log
[10:53] <DarkElf109> nearfar: Never mind....found something better =)
[10:53] <DarkElf109> nearfar: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[10:53] <rast4_> man I'm so impressed with Ubuntu
[10:53] <DarkElf109> !automatix > yo2lux
[10:53] <rast4_> I used Slackware
[10:53] <rast4_> and that was a PITA
[10:53] <rast4_> this seems to be amazingly simple
[10:54] <rast4_> yet powerful
[10:54] <nearfar> ah! how different is aptitude from apt-get?
[10:54] <florian> is there a log file where the last shutdown has been logged?
[10:54] <DarkElf109> yo2lux: Or: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[10:54] <_JECKEL_> I tried using Fedora...
[10:54] <sethk> rast4_, slackware is a good server distro.  ubuntu is a better desktop distro, IMHO
[10:54] <DarkElf109> nearfar: Aptitude saves lives. and puppies
[10:54] <DarkElf109> nearfar: I love aptitude. It tracks dependencies
[10:55] <nearfar> but I didn't use aptitude to install anything
[10:55] <rast4_> I used it as a desktop, so I can't say
[10:55] <nearfar> DarkElf109: oh
[10:55] <_JECKEL_> but fedora pissed me off when it said "Due to some licensing issues and blah blah..playing that file extention is disabled" they freaking disabled MP3
[10:55] <yo2lux> Automatix has windows fonts ?
[10:55] <rast4_> I'm really curious about Ununti server
[10:55] <DarkElf109> nearfar: Meh. It'll just pick up whenever you start
[10:55] <rast4_> Automatix crashed my system :(
[10:55] <_JECKEL_> which was oh horribly not cool
[10:55] <DarkElf109> yo2lux: Think so. Try running that command I just posted
[10:55] <sethk> nearfar, it's a front end to apt-get, like synaptic, only synaptic is far superior
[10:55] <rast4_> I HATED Fedora core 4
[10:55] <rast4_> I'd rather use BSD than Fedora
[10:55] <Jamie> is there anyway to make a harddrive i have (ntfs) writable.. right now its not.
[10:55] <DarkElf109> sethk: Using aptitude as a GUI is bad
[10:55] <sethk> yo2lux, I have two machines running ubuntu server.  no problems.
[10:55] <jeeaar> pfft. i hated bsd
[10:55] <DarkElf109> !ntfs
[10:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:56] <sethk> DarkElf109, yes, I agree, but it does explain what it is w.r.t. apt-get
[10:56] <rast4_> it's hardware unfriendly
[10:56] <DarkElf109> Hrm...that's not the one...
[10:56] <DarkElf109> Jamie: http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/howto-write-to-windows-ntfs-drive-from-ubuntu-ntfs-3g/
[10:56] <sethk> jeeaar, I use bsd for some purposes.  Nothing to hate, at least rationally
[10:56] <nearfar> DarkElf109: that long second command tells that it would remove apache, gstreamer, etc.. :|
[10:56] <yo2lux> Swiftfox Plugins (Java, Flash, Acrobat, Mplayer, MS fonts)
[10:56] <nearfar> DarkElf109: even python
[10:56] <yo2lux> MS fonts is all fonts that I need?
[10:56] <rast4_> it's hella secure if configured properly
[10:57] <jeeaar> sethk: yes, i know my hatred is unfounded, but my first experience with open source was Open BSD, and i found it nearly impossible to use.
[10:57] <jeeaar> therefor i hate it
[10:57] <DarkElf109> nearfar: Well, best bet is to copy/paste all the stuff that it's removing that you want, and re-apt-get them later
[10:57] <sethk> rast4, what's hardware unfriendly, bsd?  Certainly supports a much smaller set of hardware.
[10:57] <DarkElf109> yo2lux: Should be
[10:57] <sethk> jeeaar, openbsd I would not tolerate either.  But don't condemn bsd because of openbsd
[10:57] <rast4_> sethk: yes, it hated most of my hardware of my servers
[10:57] <goblyn> whats a better plugin for firefox, the official Macromedia Flash, or a 3rd party plugin?
[10:58] <nearfar> DarkElf109: I am trying 'apt-get remove kdelibs-bin' .. which alone is removing many kde stuff
[10:58] <rast4_> I have 3 servers at my house
[10:58] <sethk> jeeaar, that's like condeming ubuntu because of gentoo  :)
[10:58] <_JECKEL_> BTW...any real substance to gnome vs KDE?
[10:58] <DarkElf109> nearfar: Might not get everything, though
[10:58] <rast4_> all 2k3 server software running on  them except one which has a Slack hardware firewall
[10:58] <DarkElf109> _JECKEL_: GNOME wins, because I like it better!
[10:58] <sethk> _JECKEL_, no, reallyl mostly a matter of taste
[10:58] <jeeaar> sethk: my remark was more off-hand and sarcastic than anything, sorry to offend you :P
[10:58] <DarkElf109> And there's no substance greater than that =)
[10:59] <sethk> jeeaar, that's ok, I just don't believe that to like ubuntu you have to hate other stuff.  :)
[10:59] <jeeaar> haha
[10:59] <DarkElf109> You don't? Well, that's changed MY worldview...
[10:59] <Rookie-> Unix *is* user friendly.  I don't have the same behaviour with gnome -- I need to mount the CD manually. Which program in gnome can do that for me?
[10:59] <rast4_> still only have one issue, which is the Nvidia drivers for my laptop card
[11:00] <rast4_> but otherwise it's great and I don't want to play games
[11:00] <DarkElf109> jatt: Should be automatic...setting is...hold on
[11:00] <rast4_> so meh
[11:00] <jeeaar> yes, i now have nothing to hate.. better choose society
[11:00] <_JECKEL_> I never had that problem in gnome
[11:00] <rast4_> choose Republicans :)
[11:00] <rast4_> they are easy to hate
[11:00] <sethk> _JECKEL_, you can go troll on #debian
[11:00] <DarkElf109> jatt: System>Preferences>Removable Drives and Media
[11:00] <goblyn> whats a better plugin for firefox, the official Macromedia Flash, or a 3rd party plugin?
[11:01] <jeeaar> i would assume official?
[11:01] <rast4_> i need that too
[11:01] <jatt> DarkElf109: thanks. I see I don't have that menu entry, so probably I don't have the right package installed
[11:01] <Kzar_fr> goblyn, a plugin what for ?
[11:01] <DarkElf109> jatt: Hrm...should be installed with ubuntu-desktop, AFAIK
[11:02] <goblyn> Kzar_fr: Flash
[11:02] <DarkElf109> Yeah, go with official
[11:02] <jatt> DarkElf109: I see it must be the following package: gnome-volume-manager - GNOME daemon to auto-mount and manage media devices
[11:02] <Kzar_fr> goblyn, the Macromedia plugin is the right one for your needs.
[11:02] <jatt> will install it and test, thanks!
[11:02] <goblyn> Kzar_fr: there aren't any alternatives that are better?
[11:02] <jasost> hello, who do you talk to to get support from?
[11:03] <nearfar> removing kdelibs-data
[11:03] <rast4_> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:03] <rast4_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:03] <rast4_> is only available from another source
[11:03] <rast4_> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[11:03] <rast4_> whast's that mean ? :(
[11:03] <DarkElf109> goblyn: There's an alternative that;s better for moral reasons, but not for use reasons...
[11:03] <lukem> hey guys, my Remote desktop does not work
[11:03] <Kzar_fr> !google Wine repository for Ubuntu
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google Wine repository for Ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <nearfar> DarkElf109: removing kdelibs-data now :)
[11:03] <lukem> anything I need to do?
[11:03] <DarkElf109> !wine
[11:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:03] <goblyn> KarkElf109: Explain
[11:03] <goblyn> DarkElf109: Explain
[11:03] <sethk> lukem, yes, fix it.  :)
[11:04] <DarkElf109> goblyn: http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/GNU_Gnash_Screenshots_and_Review
[11:04] <lukem> sethk: heh, I know, I have no idea why it is not wokring
[11:04] <jeeaar> goblyn: he means that macromedia isnt open source, and other might be
[11:04] <DarkElf109> lukem: Is System>Preferences>Remote Desktop set up right?
[11:04] <lukem> I just always get connection refused
[11:04] <florian> what's worng with my graphical UI? When I log in only a console appears, nothing like ALT+TAB works, i can only start one app...
[11:05] <goblyn> DarkElf109: hmmmm, well... i've been having trouble with the proprietary Macromedia plugin... why not
[11:05] <lukem> DarkElf109: I have ticked Allow other user to view desktop and allow them to control and required a password
[11:05] <DarkElf109> lukem: Do you have firestarter or some other firewall set up?
[11:05] <lukem> I have not set up a firewall (dapper does come with one by default does it?)
[11:05] <gorski> does audio streaming occupy space on hard disk?
[11:06] <goblyn> how do i find out if i have a firewall installed, and if i do, how do i turn it off?
[11:06] <lukem> I have also configured my router to let 5900 through
[11:06] <_JECKEL_> quick..any telnet like thing in ubuntu I can use to access MUDs?
[11:06] <DarkElf109> lukem: not sure...On a command line, run 'sudo iptables -L', and see if any rules are present
[11:06] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, well, there's telnet...
[11:06] <bbrazil> goblyn: iptables -xvnL
[11:06] <jeeaar> rofl
[11:07] <lukem> DarkElf109: no rules
[11:07] <lukem>  vncviewer localhost:0 doesn't even connect
[11:07] <_JECKEL_> thought that was windows only lol
[11:07] <goblyn> bbrazil: what does this tell me?
[11:07] <DarkElf109> gorski: Probably not. Unless you have an absolutely enormous buffer size set
[11:07] <bbrazil> goblyn: your current firewall rules
[11:07] <goblyn> bbrazil: is there a way to just turn a firewall off completely?
[11:07] <gorski> ok, tnx
[11:07] <DarkElf109> lukem: try localhost:1
[11:08] <DarkElf109> gorski: iptables -F
[11:08] <DarkElf109> Grr
[11:08] <jeeaar> bbrazil: did you ip scan him?
[11:08] <DarkElf109> That was to goblyn
[11:08] <bbrazil> goblyn: yes, but you don't want to go there. If that command doesn't have any rules you don't have a firewall
[11:08] <lukem> ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104)
[11:08] <DarkElf109> goblyn: iptables -F verifies it
[11:08] <lukem> different error
[11:08] <DarkElf109> Try localhost:2
[11:08] <bbrazil> DarkElf109: don't tell peopl to run iptables -F, it's dangerous
[11:09] <gorski> ?
[11:09] <Flannel> _JECKEL_: you can also use the mother of all mud clients: tintin.  other popular (and more modern) ones include tinyfugue, and... um, well, a few others.  search for "mud" in synaptic
[11:09] <goblyn> Darkelf109: what do you mean "verifies it"?
[11:09] <DarkElf109> bbrazil: He asked how toturn the firewall off
[11:09] <rast4_> ok I can't get wine downloaded
[11:09] <rast4_> wtf
[11:09] <lukem> DarkElf109: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused same as :0
[11:09] <bbrazil> DarkElf109: yes, not how to possibly block all network access
[11:09] <DarkElf109> goblyn: It flushes the firewall rules altogether
[11:09] <_JECKEL_> well i'm just using it to check something out
[11:09] <DarkElf109> bbrazil: How? It doesn't flush the nat rules
[11:10] <bbrazil> DarkElf109: default policy
[11:10] <DarkElf109> lukem: Well, then, it's probably running on 1
[11:10] <jeeaar> uh oh.. nerd legistics
[11:10] <bbrazil> DarkElf109: most firewall scripts set it to REJECT
[11:10] <bbrazil> or DROP
[11:10] <DarkElf109> bbrazil: Ah. Good point.
[11:10] <lukem> DarkElf109: yeah ok, thats my bad, but why would it be killing the connection straight away
[11:10] <DarkElf109> lukem: No idea! =)
[11:10] <lukem> damit :)
[11:10] <goblyn> DarkElf109: ok... back to the question about Gnash... how do i install it?
[11:11] <DarkElf109> lukem: On the Remote Desktop Preferences, what command does it show in blue?
[11:11] <DarkElf109> goblyn: No clue. Never used it
[11:11] <goblyn> DarkElf109: ... great advice
[11:12] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Hey, at least I didn't give you advice on something I know absolutely nothing about =P
[11:12] <minerale> I made the mistake of installing the kubuntu package over ubuntu, after much wrangling I was able to remvoe it, but the kubuntu logo shows up each time I start / shut my computer.... anyone know how I can remove it ?
[11:12] <goblyn> DarkElf109: lol, fair enough
[11:12] <_JECKEL_> ok guys..thanks for the help
[11:12] <goblyn> DarkElf109: well, let me get your opinion on something else, ever used Epiphany?
[11:12] <DarkElf109> minerale: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[11:13] <DarkElf109> goblyn: I've used all those amaroK wannabes for GNOME...amaroK still wins =)
[11:13] <DarkElf109> Wait...Epiphany's mail, isn't it...
[11:13] <goblyn> DarkElf109: good browser?
[11:13] <jeeaar> what is amaroK?
[11:13] <goblyn> no, it's browser
[11:13] <DarkElf109> Wow...First I was thinking of Banshee, then Evolution =P
[11:14] <gorski> can thunderbird be in tray?
[11:14] <Madpilot> DarkElf109, Evolution is the mail app you're probably thinking of
[11:14] <DarkElf109> Yeah
[11:14] <jeeaar> DarkElf109: sorry, i should stop using you as my personal google :S
[11:14] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Nope, never used it...I <3 Firefox
[11:14] <goblyn> DarkElf109: lol, ooookay, i'll take your comment as a whopping "no"
[11:14] <DarkElf109> goblyn: I know there's an extension for it that puts it in the tray in Windows...not sure about in Linux
[11:14] <goblyn> DarkElf109: i'm die hard Firefox myself... but i was just figured i'd try something else in Linux to see if it's any better
[11:14] <DarkElf109> Bah. That was to gorski =(
[11:14] <ardchoille> minerale: Maybe this will be of some help: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[11:15] <gorski> ok
[11:15] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Only time I'd recommend something other than Fx is, MAYBE, Konqueror...MAYBE
[11:15] <DarkElf109> If ofnly or the integration
[11:16] <lukem> DarkElf109: it shows vncviewer luke:0
[11:16] <goblyn> DarkElf109: i am not the biggest Konqueror fan, i've tried it and it's too... simplistic
[11:16] <DarkElf109> Or Opera...if you're into that all-in-one sort of thing
[11:16] <lukem> DarkElf109: so that doesn't help
[11:16] <DarkElf109> lukem: Hrm...should be running on port 5900 then...
[11:16] <rast4_> I'm a little confused as to how to "add a repository"
[11:17] <Flannel> !tell rast4_ about repositories
[11:17] <rast4_> like I'm having a prob getting Wine
[11:17] <Flannel> rast4_: second link ubotu sent you
[11:17] <lukem> yeah I have configure that port on my router
[11:17] <DarkElf109> lukem: Could you run netstat -a, and look for 5900 or 5901?
[11:17] <rast4_> ty
[11:17] <lukem> ok
[11:18] <goblyn> DarkElf109: omfg... i can't install Macromedia Flash Player because i'm using x8664
[11:18] <goblyn> x86_64
[11:18] <jeeaar> goblyn: ouch
[11:18] <lukem> 5900 is not there thought this is: tcp        0      0 *:5901                  *:*                     LISTEN
[11:18] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Shoulda mentioned that earlier
[11:19] <DarkElf109> Yeah...Can't run Flash, most codecs, some other things...
[11:19] <goblyn> DarkElf109: didn't realize that would be a problem till i tried to install it :-
[11:19] <goblyn> DarkElf109: ok... is there really any point in having the 64 bit version?
[11:19] <jeeaar> goblyn: you get to try ubuntu =D
[11:19] <DarkElf109> goblyn: I can't honestly say, I don't know. I don't personally believe so. 32 bit is much easier, and you still get good performance
[11:20] <DarkElf109> goblyn: I just found this on google, you could try it: http://marius.scurtescu.com/?p=139
[11:20] <goblyn> can anyone tell me if there is a good reason to use the 64 bit version of Ubuntu?
[11:21] <DarkElf109> Anyone CAN tell you...they just might not be right
[11:21] <Jay_> has anyone seen any bug reports on the new kernel and WiFi?
[11:21] <lukem> any more ideas DarkElf109?
[11:21] <jeeaar> goblyn: if you were good enough, you could help develop it
[11:21] <DarkElf109> Jay_: Check http://www.launchpad.net
[11:21] <amarillion> goblyn: I don't know, but I'm using 32 bit on my amd64
[11:21] <amarillion> Just to avoid the headache
[11:21] <goblyn> yeah... okay... great...
[11:22] <DarkElf109> lukem: Sorry, didn't see the response. So, it looks like you're running something on :1...may or may not be a VNC server, but something is listening there...
[11:22] <goblyn> well... i'll be back in about 20 minutes after i completely re-format my hard drive and install the 32 bit version and re-configure everything
[11:22] <jeeaar> rofl
[11:22] <Jay_> thanks Dark
[11:22] <amarillion> I don't think there is a real good reason for using the 64 bit version
[11:22] <DarkElf109> goblyn: http://marius.scurtescu.com/?p=139
[11:22] <DarkElf109> Check that out
[11:22] <jeeaar> goblyn: sucks man, c ya in a while :P
[11:23] <lukem> damit
[11:23] <DarkElf109> lukem: Could you run 'ps -A | grep vnc'?
[11:23] <lukem> it should just work out of the box right?
[11:23] <goblyn> DarkElf109: Bah, not gonna worry about it, this thing is a beast, it'll take me about 15 minutes to install the 32 bit version of Ubuntu
[11:23] <DarkElf109> lukem: And then 'ps -A | grep vino'
[11:23] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Well, then, have fun
[11:23] <lukem> DarkElf109: vnc is not there
[11:23] <DarkElf109> lukem: That's good. I'm just making sure a second VNC server isn't running
[11:24] <lukem> DarkElf109: vino is not there
[11:24] <DarkElf109> lukem: That's bad. Means vino isn't running
[11:24] <lukem> yeah and thats the dapper vnc server right?
[11:24] <babis85> guys, when i press backspace the xserver terminaes
[11:24] <lukem> hmm
[11:24] <jeeaar> hmm
[11:24] <amarillion> Yes, 64bit ubuntu might be slightly more optimized for your system, but that really doesn't matter if some of the hardware doesn't work
[11:24] <jeeaar> who was asking about MUDS earlier?
[11:24] <DarkElf109> lukem: Hrm...Ok, this is gonna restart X, so close out of everything before you do this: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:24] <bnD> anyone used a firefox plugin to enable mms:// wmv streaming in linux?
[11:25] <babis85> what could i do?
[11:25] <amarillion> Given the choice between some hardware very fast or all hardware reasonably fast...
[11:25] <DarkElf109> babis85: Don't hit the backspace key?
[11:25] <babis85> DarkElf109: it's not so easy
[11:25] <babis85> DarkElf109: i do it mechanically
[11:25] <lukem> DarkElf109: ok i'll be back :)
[11:26] <babis85> actually i found a solution but it is not permanentle
[11:26] <DarkElf109> babis85: Is this all the time, or just since the last restart?
[11:26] <babis85> i had installed compiz/xgl
[11:26] <babis85> occured an error
[11:26] <babis85> and then this problem emerged
[11:27] <DarkElf109> !compiz
[11:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:27] <babis85> now have completely uninstall compiz and xgl
[11:27] <DarkElf109> Ah
[11:27] <babis85> so, i tried that command :xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace", which makes the things
[11:27] <ardchoille> I downloaded the desktop ISO. Id like to mount it, copy all files to a tmp dir, and add a couple GTK themes. Can I just create a new ISO from that, burn it as an image and have it work?
[11:28] <babis85> and after that i run:  sudo xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace" /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.gr
[11:28] <babis85> because i am from greece
[11:28] <babis85> and now i have no greek at all
[11:28] <DarkElf109> Well
[11:29] <Kittiah> Anyone know a working site that hosts EasyUbuntu, or another application that will add a large selection of repositories to my package manager?
[11:29] <babis85> the question finally is: at the next restart would be able to write in greek?
[11:29] <DarkElf109> babis85: First, you'll have to reinstall the greek keymap...I think you overwrote it
[11:29] <babis85> and how could i restore the default settings for that file?
[11:29] <rast4_> NICE! I got the repository aspect nailed
[11:29] <DarkElf109> babis85: Secondly, really easy way to do this, modify ~/.Xmodmap
[11:29] <rast4_> thanks again fellas
[11:29] <Flannel> rast4_: good to hear
[11:29] <DarkElf109> rast4_: Np =)
[11:29] <ubuntu> how do i get the w32 codecs?
[11:30] <DarkElf109> !automatix > ubuntu
[11:30] <rast4_> this is turning out to kick more and more boo-tay by the minute
[11:30] <Jivemonkey> i installed ubuntu on parallels and when i boot now i get: kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[11:30] <babis85> there is no such file
[11:30] <Flannel> !tell ubuntu about w32codecs
[11:30] <ubuntu> Darkelf109: hiss!
[11:30] <Flannel> DarkElf109: don't suggest automatix please
[11:30] <nearfar> back to GNOME! liberation from Komplexity! Yay!
[11:30] <jeeaar> ubuntu: firstly, my operating system shouldnt want to be another one, and secondly.. PLF
[11:30] <rast4_> I concur, Automatix = the devil!
[11:30] <rast4_> :P
[11:30] <rast4_> made me do 4 reinstallations hehe
[11:31] <ubuntu> jeeaar: PLF?
[11:31] <babis85> and how could have the xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace" running automatically?
[11:31] <Flannel> Penguin Liberation Front, I believe.
[11:31] <jeeaar> yes
[11:31] <lukem> DarkElf109: VINO-SERVER was running then it stops
[11:31] <jeeaar> dont they have w32 repo's?
[11:31] <gerhard> morning
[11:31] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[11:31] <ivorybishop> morning
[11:31] <raddy> does anybody using gdesklets?
[11:31] <ubuntu> jeeaar: well, sorry, all i really want is just to watch video's andlisten to mp3's, thats about it
[11:31] <Flannel> ubuntu: see the link ubotu sent you.
[11:31] <gerhard> I have linux 606 x64 and i want to install wine
[11:32] <Flannel> ubuntu: it covers all that ;)
[11:32] <gerhard> is that possible with linux32?
[11:32] <lukem> DarkElf109: did a vncviewer luke:0 to try and connect got this ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream and vino-server is no longer running
[11:32] <ubuntu> flannel using IRSSI
[11:32] <jeeaar> ubuntu: yeah, ots not quite as simple as windows is. you'll need to get a repository for w32 codecs
[11:32] <gerhard> !linux32
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <Flannel> ubuntu: alt-2 or whatever, then copy/paste the first link.
[11:32] <raddy> does gdesklets work in ubuntu?
[11:32] <Flannel> rast4_: yes
[11:32] <Flannel> er, raddy yes.
[11:33] <ubuntu> jeeaar: well, i'll be back on in a second, send it back to me then
[11:33] <babis85> DarkElf109: should i run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xmodmap" to fix the problem?
[11:33] <raddy> Flannel : does lmsensor work in gwget?
[11:33] <ivorybishop> guys, i am in a real pickle, i installed dapper on my laptop, used the same username/pw i use on all my home workstations, and it now tells me the username and password are incorrect, is there anyway to boot from the live cd and fix this? or is there a way to login as sudo/root?
[11:33] <raddy> Flannel : sorry gdeskles
[11:33] <Flannel> ubuntu: go to the help: help.ubuntu.com and search for 'RestrictedFormats'
[11:33] <DarkElf109> lukem: That is REALLY odd...I'm not sure why it could be doing that
[11:33] <josh> quick quetion, yesterday i was having a problems with video card driver (i have an ati in it right now but switched to a nvidia) a guy gave me a link for getting the nvidia driver. my question is, can i leave the ati card and drivers in the comp, download and set the nvidia drivers and then at my leisure change the card out with smooth transition? or is my gdm going to be messed up either way?
[11:33] <Flannel> raddy: Believe so.   Haven't done so myself though
[11:33] <lukem> DarkElf109: dam, thanks anyway so far
[11:33] <DarkElf109> !restricted > ubuntu
[11:34] <lukem> i'll do some more searcging
[11:34] <raddy> please somebody see this url http://gdesklets.org//?mod=forum/post&pid=16
[11:34] <DarkElf109> lukem: My suggestion, try the forum. Lots of smart people there
[11:34] <gerhard> I have linux 606 x64 and i want to install wine
[11:34] <gerhard> is that possible with linux32?
[11:34] <raddy> i am experiencing the same problem
[11:34] <raddy> does any know any solutions?
[11:35] <Flannel> ivorybishop: at the grub menu, boot into recovery mode, and you can clear/set a new password
[11:35] <ivorybishop> flannel: thanks man! afk to fix it
[11:35] <DarkElf109> babis85: sudo apt-get reinstall xserver-xorg would probably reinstall the keymap
[11:36] <lukem> DarkElf109: thanks
[11:36] <Flannel> ivorybishop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  Should be able to use the first method, as you haven't set a root password.  But, it walks you through setting the new one, etc
[11:36] <jeeaar> hmm
[11:36] <jeeaar> gnight guys
[11:36] <babis85> DarkElf109: E: Invalid operation reinstall
[11:37] <jeeaar> thanks for the help Dark
[11:38] <Talisker[w] > !MTA
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MTA - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <Talisker[w] > !sendmail
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sendmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <DarkElf109> !postfix
[11:38] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[11:38] <DarkElf109> =)
[11:38] <mission> hi
[11:38] <DarkElf109> babis85: Hrm...do you have aptitude installed?
[11:38] <babis85> ofcource
[11:38] <DarkElf109> The sudo aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg
[11:39] <DarkElf109> I know that aptitude has reinstall...If it responds with an error, I'll be flabbergasted
[11:39] <DarkElf109> Then*
[11:39] <ivorybishop> lol, that grub menu goes by quick!
[11:39] <ivorybishop> you gotta be on the ball to catch it
[11:40] <ardchoille> ivorybishop: you can change the timeout on that
[11:40] <ag0ny> hi
[11:40] <ivorybishop> sweet, yeah i just found the doc on that
[11:40] <Flannel> there's no reason to, unless you want to wait more seconds each bootup ;)  just have to be prepared to hit escape
[11:40] <yey> I know why colorgcc doesn't work with vim's
[11:40] <ivorybishop> hehe
[11:40] <Talisker[w] > Where do I define my smtp and pop3 servers?
[11:40] <Flannel> just like POST screens
[11:40] <Talisker[w] > Is it possible to define them per user?
[11:41] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : For which client?
[11:41] <Talisker[w] > mutt
[11:41] <ivorybishop> ok, 1000 points to Flannel, thanks for the tip on that
[11:41] <DarkElf109> Gonna be in .muttrc then
[11:41] <babis85> DarkElf109: just seen the man page and it doesn't have reinstall
[11:41] <Talisker[w] > ~/.muttrc?
[11:41] <DarkElf109> Yup
[11:41] <JamieBE> Hi everyone
[11:41] <Flannel> ivorybishop: you got the link to the stepwise instructions, right? or, maybe you're already done by now ;)
[11:42] <Talisker[w] > no such file
[11:42] <ivorybishop> i am done...lol
[11:42] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : http://www.hserus.net/wiki/index.php/Muttrc
[11:42] <ivorybishop> thanks again man
[11:42] <JamieBE> Its been a while since I last screwed up big time and actually needed help
[11:42] <yey> I know why colorgcc doesn't work with vim's ":make" command. It redirects it appending at the end "2>&1| tee". And it seems that it loses color with that. Could you help me? I want it to not lose the color. How should I change this redirection?
[11:42] <JamieBE> I tried to get this thing called GXL to work
[11:42] <ivorybishop> its great that you volunteers are here, keep up the good work and keep fighting the good fight
[11:42] <rixxon> there is a pretty annoying "bug" in rhythmbox
[11:42] <Flannel> JamieBE: you mean XGL?
[11:42] <JamieBE> It involved modifying some xorg and xserver stuff
[11:43] <JamieBE> Yea Flannel, thats the one
[11:43] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-to-mutt.xml
[11:43] <DarkElf109> Talisker[w] : You have to get your mail from a pop server with fetchmail
[11:43] <JamieBE> Not whenever I boot I get an Xserver error and have to go through the whole dpkg -reconfigure xserver blah blah blah
[11:43] <Flannel> JamieBE: #ubuntu-xgl is the correct spot for XGL related support.  They should (should, op word) be pretty adept at dealing with hosed XGL stuff ;)
[11:43] <JamieBE> I'll give them a try flannel
[11:44] <goblyn> DarkElf109: took less time than i thought it would :-D
[11:44] <yey> 	error file.  See also |:make_makeprg|.  See |option-backslash| about
[11:44] <yey> sorry
[11:44] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Dang. That was fast
[11:44] <Snow_Shelter> hello
[11:44] <goblyn> DarkElf109: lol, i told you, my PC is a beast
[11:44] <DarkElf109> Hrm...Anyone know if it's possible to read All Quiet on the Western Front in less than 8 hours?
[11:45] <JamieBE> Flannel: dead room.
[11:45] <ag0ny> anyone know of a deb for the latest RT2570 wlan-driver?
[11:45] <Madpilot> DarkElf109, that sounds like an #ubuntu-offtopic question. It's thataway --->
[11:45] <Snow_Shelter> I know this isn't the right place to ask, but I'm about to shoot google's church bells because all it gives me is BS when I try to search for a free hosting service for .ico images... does anyone know of a free service for hosting .ico images?
[11:45] <JamieBE> Is there a way that I can just forget all the XGL stuff and revert back to a working X for my Nvidia card?
[11:45] <Madpilot> DarkElf109, and yes, I could probably read it in les than 8hrs, but I read stupidly fast ;)
[11:45] <goblyn> DarkElf109: so, are you like a developer or have you just been using this for a really long time?
[11:45] <DarkElf109> Madpilot: I'll read it by the light of my monitor on my Ubuntu comp, ok?
[11:45] <JamieBE> I ahve it running at the moment but when I go into stuff the like penguin racer, it is IMPOSSIBLY slow and laggy
[11:46] <DarkElf109> =P
[11:46] <Snow_Shelter> Jamie; apt-get uninstall xgl?
[11:46] <Madpilot> DarkElf109, sounds on-topic enough for me ;)
[11:46] <DarkElf109> goblyn: I'd develop if I were motivated enough to actually learn C++...I've been using various Linuxes for the past couple years
[11:46] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE:  apt-get uninstall xgl?
[11:46] <goblyn> DarkElf109: ah
[11:47] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: what kind of NVidia card is it?
[11:47] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Linux User #385258, if you want to look me up =P
[11:47] <goblyn> anybody know how i can contribute to Ubuntu (not money unfortunately, i'm fairly poor :-()
[11:47] <JamieBE> Ti4200 128MB I think
[11:47] <DarkElf109> !contribute
[11:47] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[11:47] <Snow_Shelter> goblyn: write code
[11:47] <DarkElf109> Heh. I love this bot...I had *no idea* that that command existed...
[11:47] <Snow_Shelter> !bite
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <goblyn> Snow_Shelter: lol, any other idea's?
[11:48] <Snow_Shelter> !favicon
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about favicon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <goblyn> !contribute
[11:48] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[11:48] <Madpilot> goblyn, help write documentation, or... there's lots of things you can help with, even if you don't code
[11:48] <Snow_Shelter> goblyn: uhh, help other users? like me!
[11:48] <rast4_> is there any way to get tool tips off? Like when I go to use the system menu, it says "Browse and run installed programs"
[11:48] <DarkElf109> You could even just do support in here or on the forums
[11:48] <rast4_> I'd like to chuck that
[11:48] <Snow_Shelter> goblyn: you can tell me a free place on the net where I can upload my @#%%ing favicon.
[11:48] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: Your server?
[11:48] <Flannel> Snow_Shelter: Thats an #ubuntu-offtopic question
[11:48] <goblyn> heh, well, i think i'll have to hang out for quite a while to get to the point of helping as much as you guys
[11:49] <DarkElf109> Flannel: He's uploading it from ubuntu =)
[11:49] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: unfortunately I *don't* have one
[11:49] <Snow_Shelter> Flannel: dulely noted
[11:49] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: Then, why do you need a favicon?
[11:49] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: for teh blog!
[11:49] <DarkElf109> Ah
[11:49] <JamieBE> I think my xserver is working OK, It's just very laggy for some reason, it used to be like this on the LiveCD, any ideas, anyone?  Other than sunbird?
[11:51] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: sudo synaptic, search, xgl, uninstall
[11:51] <goblyn> JamieBE: add sudo to before it
[11:51] <goblyn> JamieBE: type sudo apt-get uninstall xgl
[11:51] <DarkElf109> t-thing: Google Calendar, Yahoo! Calendar
[11:51] <threat2> ey
[11:51] <DarkElf109> t-thing: Only decent ones I've found =/
[11:51] <JamieBE> sTILL AN INVALID OP.
[11:52] <goblyn> DarkElf109: wait... Google finally came out with their calendar?
[11:52] <chez> whois chez
[11:52] <chez> \whois chez
[11:52] <JamieBE> I'll remove XGL through Synaptic and see what that does.
[11:52] <t-thing> DarkElf109: Yeah, but another requirement is that its an application. It needs to be keyboard friendly.
[11:52] <goblyn> JamieBE: well do you know if it's recognizing your video card, or just loading a generic driver?
[11:52] <DarkElf109> rast4_: I'm still trying tom figure out how to disable tooltips for ya
[11:52] <JamieBE> #ubuntu-xgl wasn't any help i'm 'fraid. it was dead room.
[11:52] <rast4_> ok ty
[11:52] <DarkElf109> goblyn: Yeah. It's been out for a while...not used it, but it's out
[11:52] <ag0ny> anyone has WUSB54G V4 running with Ubuntu Dapper Drake and WPA encryption?
[11:52] <JamieBE> goblyn, I went through the Xserver config and it picked up the name of the card and stuff just fune
[11:53] <JamieBE> I am actually using xserver now
[11:53] <Flannel> JamieBE: might have to check back during the day then.
[11:53] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: reinstall since what we're telling you isn't working. That's the breaks for trying out software that requires devotion and the hardware to support it.
[11:53] <goblyn> JamieBE: hmmm, thats very odd, perhaps it's your refresh rate, though i doubt that would make it look choppy, just destroy your eyes
[11:53] <jungsonn> hello
[11:53] <JamieBE> But when i restart, x fails to load, and then the terminal gives me some lip about not being able to load. and then I have to redo the config x thing all over again
[11:53] <Madpilot> chez, did you just ping the whole channel?
[11:53] <nixternal> wth
[11:53] <nixternal> i think so Madpilot
[11:53] <jungsonn> does anyone know where i can ask a question about upgradin to the new ubuntu?
[11:54] <DarkElf109> !ask
[11:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:54] <nixternal> mmm lag
[11:54] <Madpilot> imbrandon, well, that sorts it
[11:54] <imbrandon> ;)
[11:54] <nixternal> hehe
[11:54] <jungsonn> i have hoary but i can't figure out how i can upgrade to the new ubuntu.
[11:54] <goblyn> DarkElf109: you know anything about this?
[11:55] <Madpilot> jungsonn, from Hoary, you should upgrade to Breezy, then Dapper
[11:55] <JamieBE> goblyn, it's weird, I can play videos and move windows around fine, it's just those games that used to run fine before, and dont now.
[11:55] <DarkElf109> What's the problem? I tend to filter out stuff that doesn't start with "Darkelf109:" or some variation =P
[11:55] <JamieBE> Is there a way of configuring refresh rate in x?
[11:55] <florian> hi, when I log in to Gnome I only get a terminal. Nothing else. I can only start one app. What's wrong?
[11:55] <jungsonn> what is the best way? do i need to download it again? or can i do it with sudo?
[11:56] <Madpilot> jungsonn, you can upgrade in place
[11:56] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: In /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:56] <jungsonn> in place?
[11:56] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell jungsonn about upgrade
[11:56] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Well, first things first...BACK UP YOUR XORG.CONF!
[11:56] <chez> exit
[11:56] <Madpilot> jungsonn, check the PM you just got from the bot
[11:56] <chez> ahhh, so are you not supposed to ping the whole channel
[11:56] <jungsonn> thank u
[11:57] <Madpilot> chez, no... the kick might have been a clue, huh?
[11:57] <jungsonn> ok i go looking, thank you for your time.
[11:57] <JamieBE> Darkelf109: I had to modify xorg.conf as part of the XGL installation.
[11:57] <chez> meh
[11:57] <Shinzetsu> is it possible to ping an irc channel? Oo
[11:57] <chez> I won't do it again
[11:57] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Did you make a backup?
[11:58] <Snow_Shelter> what's wrong with pinging the whole channel, obviously I haven't read the rules in their entirety...
[11:58] <JamieBE> DarkElf109: If I was that smart to make a backup in the first place, I wouldnt be here :p
[11:58] <Madpilot> Snow_Shelter, it's an irritant to 800 people, and not at all needed...
[11:58] <Flannel> Snow_Shelter: you bother a lot of people.  its essentially spamming
[11:58] <KrisWood> Hello, I just upgraded to dapper yesterday and now my proftpd is broken. I've verified that it can run from the command line but it won't run with inetd. Has anyone got proftpd working with dapper? If so, what are your inetd settings for it?
[11:58] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Heh. Alright. I doubt it's a framerate problem, but, lets see something
[11:58] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: if I was smart enough to back up all the files on my 5 month old iPod which just died, I wouldn't have lost over 12GB of data... life's the breaks
[11:58] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Can you run glxgears, and give me a framerate?
[11:59] <chez> anyhow I'm sorry I waqs just working my way through the command list
[11:59] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: glxgears wont give you a frame rate unless you feed it an option to do so...
[11:59] <Zdra> hello, I administrate ~70 computers running ubuntu dapper here and I have a question for upgrades: If there is a new kernel version the old one isn't removed. For security reasons I don't want to allow users to boot an old kenrel. Is there a way to automatically remove old kernel when there is an upgrade of kernel-image ?
[11:59] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: Echoes it to console ever 5 seconds
[11:59] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: what model NVidia card do you have? (2nd time I've asked)
[11:59] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: doesn't on my AMD64
[11:59] <JamieBE> darkelf109: Cool, i see some gears going very slowly, dont see a framerate on there though
[12:00] <PyroManiak> how do I set the permission so I can see my windows partition? chmod -x /media/hda1?
[12:00] <JamieBE> I think it is a geforce ti4200 snow_shelter
[12:00] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Should echo to the console every 5 seconds...
[12:00] <DarkElf109> Always has for me
[12:00] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:00] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: doesn't anymore
[12:00] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: Heh. I just ran it, and it did =)
[12:00] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: I have a 7900GTX and I get about 3200FPS
[12:00] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: Kernel version, X version, and glxgears version please
[12:01] <JamieBE> DarkElf109 : nope, just a picture of the gears moving VERY choppy
[12:01] <Seveas> Zdra, unfortunately not -- but you can work around it by letting grub only display the latest kernel and forbiding editing of the grub menu during boot
[12:01] <PyroManiak> Why doesn't my windows partition show up in ubuntu?
[12:01] <neutrinomass> Zdra: None that I know of, but you may be able to remove them all in one go using clusterssh
[12:01] <Madpilot> PyroManiak, because Windows is evil
[12:02] <KrisWood> does anyone here use proftpd at all?
[12:02] <neutrinomass> PyroManiak: Because Microsoft pretends only Windows exist and will only "see" windows partitions
[12:02] <JamieBE> Hey hey hey
[12:02] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: 2.6.15-26-686, Xorg 7.0.0-0ubuntu45, and I don't even know how to find the glxgears version...
[12:02] <Seveas> neutrinomass, read his question please...
[12:02] <Seveas> !tell PyroManiak about windowsdrives
[12:02] <JamieBE> Nah, it ran very smoothly for a second, and then choppy again
[12:02] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: the TI4200 isn't the newest card, so don't expect a fantastic FPS in tux racer anyway, I think it's an entirely different problem, you video card is wicked old
[12:02] <neutrinomass> Seveas: Wow, sorry, read that backwards
[12:03] <KrisWood> anyone at all?
[12:03] <JamieBE> Snow_Shelter: Everything was running very smoothly before
[12:03] <Seveas> neutrinomass,
[12:03] <KrisWood> please?
[12:03] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: well I can't tell you what I'm running, cause I'm in Hawaii and my PC is in Ottawa Canada... and the constant thunderstorms knocked out our gw so I can't tell you what I'm running... :P
[12:03] <KrisWood> google isn't being particularly forthcoming at the moment, so help would be greatly appreciated
[12:03] <Zdra> Seveas: neutrinomass: ok thanks, I'll try to configure menu.lst to only display last kernel. grub is already protected by password.
[12:03] <JamieBE> Snow_Shelter: I know what my card is capable of, and I know it can do more than this.
[12:03] <KrisWood> I don't like pleading, but I'll do it
[12:03] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: hmmm, ok... my prognosis, get a new video card
[12:03] <JamieBE> lmao
[12:03] <DarkElf109> 1) Darn you for being in Hawaii while I'm stuck in 106-degree Arizona. 2) Sorry for your connection loss =P
[12:04] <Snow_Shelter> KrisWood: what's your problem?
[12:04] <JamieBE> I may as well scap the OS at that price Snow_Shelter.
[12:04] <Seveas> Zdra, it's configured in one of the commented lines in menu.lst
[12:04] <KrisWood> I upgraded to dapper and now proftpd won't work with inetd
[12:04] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: I'll switch with you! I hate being dragged to Hawaii for 5 weeks...
[12:04] <Zdra> neutrinomass: didn't know clusterssh, I'll try it. I currently use a home-made script to run commands on all machines at once
[12:04] <KrisWood> the folks in #proftpd helped me verify that nothing is wrong with my proftpd, it's inetd that's having the problem
[12:04] <Seveas> Zdra, clusterss is fugly, try keyboardcast
[12:04] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: So...Is it a vacation? Or work?
[12:04] <Snow_Shelter> JamieBE: If you feel that way, go to Windows
[12:04] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: unwanted vacation
[12:05] <DarkElf109> Snow_Shelter: I haven't left my town for over 4 years...
[12:05] <KrisWood> so I need to find someone who has it working and find out what the right inetd configuration is for it now
[12:05] <neutrinomass> Zdra: Ahh, it's a small little program that sort of broadcasts commands to several computers - I've never used it so I can't comment on it. Better try what Seveas suggests ...
[12:05] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: I haven't had a summer for 4 years straight
[12:05] <JamieBE> Snow_Shelter: I appreciated your effort here, but it's not very constructive now
[12:05] <Seveas> Snow_Shelter, offtopic talk elswhere please
[12:05] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Your best bet would be to try the forums now
[12:05] <Snow_Shelter> Seveas: yeah, I'm on my way out of here
[12:06] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: YGPM
[12:06] <Snow_Shelter> DarkElf109: eh, just reply when you have time, I'll get to it in the morning, too late, agitated... sleep required
[12:06] <JamieBE> DARKELF109 I am in the process of retrieving framerates
[12:07] <KrisWood> I guess no one is using proftpd on dapper with inetd
[12:07] <Seveas> KrisWood, stop repeating kthbye
[12:07] <cowbud> isn't there a way to download older packages from a distro after ones have been upgraded? like a snapshot of a day how the archive was before?
[12:07] <JamieBE> darkelf 109: 1026 frames in 5.2 seconds = 195.775 FPS
[12:08] <Seveas> cowbud, not easily -- why would you want that?
[12:08] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Hrm...Could even be correct...
[12:08] <cowbud> Seveas: if you are running unstable and something broke ;)
[12:08] <Seveas> cowbud, then you file a bug
[12:08] <cowbud> I sware there was a way in debian hrmm...
[12:08] <cowbud> I mean it has nothing to do with the distro just with how they setup their packages..
[12:08] <cowbud> Seveas: done...
[12:08] <Dunpeal> re
[12:08] <cowbud> but two days without email is kinda a bitch ;)
[12:08] <Seveas> hehe
[12:08] <JamieBE> Darkelf109: It SAYS that, but it is choppy as hell
[12:09] <cowbud> but I suppose that is the price :)
[12:09] <DarkElf109> JamieBE: Like I said, post to the forum. Give as much detail as you can (xorg.conf, that framerate, full story, etc.), and hopefuly, someone that knowsmore than I will stumble upon it...
[12:09] <Seveas> you could pin the package to the older version, but the deb of an older version is removed quite soon after the newer one is approved
[12:09] <DarkElf109> And that's a whole lotta people, so you have a good chance =)
[12:09] <JamieBE> OK Darkelf109, thanks for your help
[12:09] <babis85> how could i have xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace" run at startup?
[12:09] <Seveas> babis85, put it in your ~/.gnomerc
[12:09] <DarkElf109> babis85: Not sure, but you can put it in your .Xsession
[12:09] <DarkElf109> Or that,,,
[12:10] <babis85> finally, in which one ?
[12:10] <DarkElf109> .gnomerc
[12:10] <KrisWood> ok let's try this a different way....
[12:10] <KrisWood> how do I start a service with inetd
[12:10] <ardchoille> Seveas: Thanks, I have been looking for a way to do that for a while. Would that require a "&" at the end of the command in ~/.gnomerc ?
[12:11] <babis85> there is no such file? do i have to create it?
[12:11] <Seveas> ardchoille, no
[12:11] <Seveas> babis85, yes
[12:11] <taavi> hi
[12:11] <taavi> i have a problem with avi files?
[12:12] <babis85> Seveas: and simple put that line in it?
[12:12] <Seveas> babis85, indeed
[12:12] <Seveas> !avi > taavi
[12:12] <babis85> Seveas: ok, i'm gonna restart X
[12:12] <S0me1> taavi: use xine
[12:12] <babis85> thank you both
[12:12] <taavi> i've installed all those codecs
[12:13] <taavi> i've tried all the media players, all i hear is sound
[12:13] <KrisWood> :(
[12:13] <S0me1> taavi: did you try Xine?
[12:13] <taavi> yes
[12:13] <goblyn> okay, what is PLF?
[12:14] <alus> how can I change the max file descriptors per process?
[12:14] <S0me1> taavi: it should works
[12:14] <alus> and is there a way to query it?
[12:14] <foo> hm, I can't seem to mount my drive /dev/hdd or /dev/hdd1 for some reason. mount /dev/hdd1 /public says no filesystem found, specify. I try to mount /dev/hdd .. and it says it's busy. lsof | grep hdd shows nothing. Any ideas?
[12:14] <jungsonn> i have a last question about upgrading to breezy: i have alot installed, does this upgrading method remove all my installed apps?
[12:14] <taavi> some1: i know it should, but it aint :P
[12:14] <S0me1> taavi: try use VLC
[12:14] <DarkElf109> jungsonn: Nope
[12:14] <r0wd3> How do i install the Vesa Driver?
[12:15] <DarkElf109> Just upgrades whatever needs to be upgraded
[12:15] <Shinzetsu> r0wd3: it comes with xorg
[12:15] <DarkElf109> r0wd3: Should be installed by default, AFAIK
[12:15] <jungsonn> ok great, i go upgrading thank you :)
[12:15] <S0me1> taavi: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[12:15] <r0wd3> Oh well, Thats lame.
[12:15] <taavi> some1: have that one
[12:15] <r0wd3> In that case, I have another Question
[12:15] <S0me1> taavi: it is working fine with me
[12:16] <taavi> some1: for most it is, but i've heard the same problem with others
[12:16] <r0wd3> Ubuntu doesnt boot with my AGP 6600GT, doesnt get past the ubuntu boot screen (just freezes, i have to reboot and load ubuntu with my onboard graphics). If i boot in recovery mode, it doesnt finsh and I have to reboot.
[12:17] <S0me1> taavi: did you try use VLC? if not that mean you have problem with some codes
[12:17] <KrisWood> so I guess no one knows how to use inetd at the moment?
[12:17] <foo> Is there anyway I could show the filesystem types on different partitions?
[12:17] <KrisWood> :-/
[12:17] <goblyn> what is PLF?
[12:18] <Flannel> Penguin Liberation Front
[12:18] <taavi> some1: i have vlc, doesnt play
[12:18] <r0wd3> :9
[12:18] <S0me1> taavi: try use another avi file
[12:18] <babis85> Seveas: actually it didn't work
[12:19] <taavi> some1: i have many avi files,theyre all okey
[12:19] <taavi> some1: but dont play
[12:19] <S0me1> goblyn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penguin_Liberation_Front
[12:20] <ardchoille> babis85: It worked great for me. What command are you putting in ~/.gomerc?
[12:20] <xsquared> hi, im trying to complie a plugin and im getting heaps of errors. I think i am missing some dev packages but i can't figure out what im missing, could someone tell me what packages im missing?
[12:20] <xsquared> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20438
[12:20] <goblyn> what plugin do i use in place of quicktime for firefox?
[12:20] <r0wd3> Ubuntu doesnt boot with my AGP 6600GT, doesnt get past the ubuntu boot screen (just freezes, i have to reboot and load ubuntu with my onboard graphics). If i boot in recovery mode, it doesnt finsh and I have to reboot
[12:20] <Saviq> mplayer, vlc, xine
[12:20] <idontknow> hello
[12:21] <Saviq> whichever You like best
[12:21] <r0wd3> Can someone help or refer me to a forum?
[12:21] <HeXiOn> does anybody know where can I find the changelogs for compiz and cgwd?
[12:21] <idontknow> can someone help me please? my forum has all the sudden... started acting really strange
[12:21] <S0me1> taavi: http://avicodec.duby.info/
[12:21] <xsquared> r0wd3, ubuntuforums.org
[12:21] <PyroManiak> Seveas: Thank you, script worked beautifully :]
[12:21] <idontknow> some topics come right up... but most of them... take around a minute to load
[12:22] <r0wd3> I have search there many times in the last 3 days
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <r0wd3> I didn't find anything.
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <idontknow> nothing has been changed..
[12:22] <Shinzetsu> where is the house icon for the home folder stored?
[12:22] <Swishboi> hey im thinking of running ubuntu. will i be able to run .exe files ?
[12:22] <xsquared> lol
[12:22] <idontknow> the server is ubuntu...
[12:22] <Shinzetsu> Swishboi: uhm. linux is not windows
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <xsquared> Swishboi, LOL!
[12:22] <idontknow> i get completely ignored?
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <nick37343> #lamers
[12:22] <Shinzetsu> ^shh
[12:22] <Flannel> !ops
[12:22] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[12:22] <Swishboi> yeh i know but i never run linux before so i take tht as a no
[12:22] <idontknow> someone boot that dude for flooding...
[12:23] <xsquared> Swishboi, go back to windows 8-)
[12:23] <Amaranth> bleh
[12:23] <goblyn> what plugin do i use in place of quicktime for firefox?
[12:23] <Shinzetsu> Swishboi: you can run some of your Windows apps under wine, but natively, no
[12:23] <xsquared> goblyn, ubuntuguide.org
[12:23] <ardchoille> Madpilot: Thank you :)
[12:23] <Swishboi> can i run them in a sandbox?
[12:23] <Flannel> idontknow: you havent given us nearly enough information to diagnose anything
[12:23] <S0me1> idontknow: yes i feel that
[12:23] <Amaranth> xsquared: Don't be rude.
[12:23] <Saviq> Swishboi: and more of them on VMware
[12:23] <TheGateKeeper> Swishboi: either dualbooting or running windows in vmware, or using wine, not in linux itself
[12:23] <Amaranth> !wine
[12:23] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:23] <KrisWood> !inetd
[12:23] <babis85> i put in the ~/.gnomerc the line : xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace"
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <goblyn> xsquared: that helped... not at all
[12:23] <Shinzetsu> where is the house icon for the home folder stored?
[12:23] <idontknow> is there any way someone can help me or atleast acknowledge my existance?
[12:24] <KrisWood> !xinetd
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <KrisWood> bah
[12:24] <Saviq> goblyn: I've already said
[12:24] <Amaranth> Shinzetsu: somewhere under /usr/share/icons
[12:24] <Swishboi> thanx guys
[12:24] <xsquared> goblyn, follow the tutorials, especially about the mplayer one, and the totem-firefox one
[12:24] <Amaranth> Shinzetsu: Depends on your theme and such.
[12:24] <Saviq> xine, mplayer, vlc whichever U like best
[12:24] <Flannel> 03:24 < Flannel> idontknow: you havent given us nearly enough information to diagnose anything
[12:24] <xsquared> goblyn, its not that hard to search
[12:24] <Amaranth> goblyn: What's the problem?
[12:24] <xsquared> use the Control F power
[12:24] <ardchoille> babis85: Did you try keysym 0xff08 instead of keycode 22 ?
[12:24] <S0me1> i agree with Saviq
[12:24] <idontknow> http://wine.getcontinuum.com/
[12:24] <Kittiah> Can anyone suggest some useful repositories for me to add?
[12:24] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[12:24] <Amaranth> xsquared: Please don't be rude, last warning.
[12:24] <r0wd3> join #ubuntu-au
[12:25] <xsquared> im not being rude, mate
[12:25] <babis85> ardchoille: no, that command seems to fix my problem
[12:25] <Amaranth> idontknow: You play Continuum?
[12:25] <idontknow> yes
[12:25] <TheGateKeeper> Swishboi: Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[12:25] <idontknow> o.O
[12:25] <marcin_ant> I'm looking for good software for backups in local network based on windows clients
[12:25] <Amaranth> idontknow: Works great under WINE with the patch from the appdb. :)
[12:25] <babis85> ardchoille: but i want it to run on startup
[12:25] <Swishboi> cheers
[12:25] <Amaranth> idontknow: I play Trench Wars, how about you?
[12:26] <usama> hi all
[12:26] <marcin_ant> could someone advise me some good software to do backups on ubuntu based machine?
[12:26] <Amaranth> !backup
[12:26] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[12:26] <idontknow> im SSCI Admin, tryin to get some help on my damn forums
[12:26] <DarkElf109> !language
[12:26] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:26] <idontknow> its messed up man, some topics load instantly but most
[12:26] <Flannel> idontknow: so... 'nothing has changed', lets see, obviously, something has changed.  So, now we try and figure out what.    I imagine its a SQL issue.  Bad data in your queries or whatnot.
[12:26] <idontknow> take forever
[12:26] <idontknow> over a minute or so
[12:27] <idontknow> no nothing has changed...
[12:27] <Amaranth> idontknow: Having some server issues?
[12:27] <ardchoille> babis85: babis85 why do you have "Backspace" in there twice?
[12:27] <Amaranth> idontknow: Oh, wine.getcontinuum.com is the site you're talking about?
[12:27] <idontknow> here is site im talkin bout http://eb.sszones.com/
[12:27] <Amaranth> idontknow: it never loaded for me
[12:27] <babis85> ardchoille: i don't know.
[12:27] <idontknow> no i sent that cause someone was talkin bout wine
[12:27] <loko555> hello, i have 3 deb-files in a directory, how could i install them with dpkg, i mean -i dont work. cause the 3 files are depencies with each other but dpkg wont recognize
[12:28] <babis85> ardchoille: i found that command, which solves my problem
[12:28] <idontknow> if u go and look at the forums you will see what im talkin bout in general there is one called Ants
[12:28] <idontknow>  it loads fast
[12:28] <ardchoille> babis85: ok
[12:28] <idontknow> the rest......
[12:28] <idontknow> nothing has changed on the server
[12:28] <babis85> ardchoille: when i press the backspace once and i am switched to greek the x server gets killed
[12:28] <idontknow> its default apt-get install mysql-server
[12:28] <idontknow>  package
[12:28] <Amaranth> loko555: If you use `dpkg -i file1.deb file2.deb file3.deb` it should work.
[12:28] <idontknow> been there for a while
[12:28] <idontknow> haven't done no work on site
[12:28] <babis85> ardchoille: by running that command it doesn't
[12:28] <idontknow>   come on the other day and then its all messed
[12:29] <Flannel> idontknow: no, the SOFTWARE hasnt changed.  something mustve changed.  whether it's data, or something else.
[12:29] <babis85> ardchoille: have you got any idea?
[12:29] <loko555> Amaranth: thanks this works
[12:29] <ardchoille> babis85: What is the exact line you put in ~/.gnomerc ?
[12:29] <idontknow> no software changed and the only thing that has been done is people using the forum as normal
[12:30] <Amaranth> loko555: No problem. :) dpkg is smart enough to realize that it's going to get the dependency resolved if you install them all in one go, something to remember for later.
[12:30] <goblyn> where do i download Automatix from?
[12:30] <babis85> aardchoille:  single line containing : xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace"
[12:30] <Amaranth> !automatix
[12:30] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[12:30] <ardchoille> goblyn: automatix is ot for this channel
[12:30] <KrisWood> wonderful, the wiki's solution for me is to simply not use inetd...
[12:30] <idontknow> anyone know why some topics would load fast.. and then others would take so long?
[12:30] <DarkElf109> Night all
[12:31] <Amaranth> KrisWood: inetd is for programs that don't know how to run themselves as a daemon
[12:31] <Amaranth> KrisWood: What are you trying to do?
[12:31] <goblyn> ardchoille: oh?
[12:31] <jhjp> I need some help: My network is so slow.... I have a Router with one XP notebook and one Ubuntu notebook connected. the ftp transfer from the ubuntu to the xp notebook runs at 30kb/s. it shoud run with 500kb/s
[12:31] <idontknow> been usin site since like 2005..
[12:31] <KrisWood> Amaranth, trying to run proftpd without having to type it into the command line every time I boot up
[12:31] <shinobi2> is there a mario-ish game for linux? i think there was super-tux or something
[12:31] <ardchoille> goblyn: Yes
[12:31] <goblyn> ardchoille: what do you mean>?
[12:31] <Amaranth> KrisWood: hrm, i think there is a better ftp daemon
[12:32] <Amaranth> !ftp
[12:32] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[12:32] <idontknow> your having troubles ith wine.getcontinuum.com amaranth?
[12:32] <Amaranth> bah
[12:32] <Shinzetsu> what size are normal icons?
[12:32] <Flannel> idontknow: looks like the topics with those orange images are problematic.  And the more, the longer it takes
[12:32] <Shinzetsu> 48x48?
[12:32] <Amaranth> idontknow: yep
[12:32] <KrisWood> Amaranth, When I upgraded to dapper it stopped working with inetd :-/
[12:32] <Amaranth> idontknow: still waiting for it to load
[12:32] <sean> Wow why do Java programs run so SLOW???
[12:32] <Flannel> idontknow: and yes, wine.getyadda doesnt load
[12:32] <idontknow> should...
[12:32] <idontknow> moment
[12:32] <ardchoille> goblyn: It's not recommended, talked about, supported, etc.
[12:32] <Amaranth> !find vsftpd
[12:32] <ubotu> Found: vsftpd
[12:32] <Amaranth> KrisWood: Try using vsftpd
[12:32] <goblyn> ardchoille: so the best policy is to completely ignore it and hope it goes away?
[12:32] <KrisWood> Amaranth, If proftpd isn't so good, what would you recommend instead and why?
[12:32] <idontknow> meh thats not my server thats Wonderers server
[12:33] <Flannel> idontknow: right, but *that* appears to be causing your problem
[12:33] <ardchoille> babis85: I have no idea, then. The syntax looks correct but I don't know what to tell you.
[12:33] <idontknow> i knew i should of hosted it
[12:33] <Amaranth> KrisWood: The official ubuntu server documentation says to use vsftpd
[12:33] <ardchoille> goblyn: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:33] <KrisWood> I was using vsftp before going to proftpd, I forget why I switched
[12:33] <Amaranth> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[12:33] <idontknow> here if anyone wants continuum-wine there is a mirror site here http://www.network3d.net/portal/content/view/12/1/
[12:33] <goblyn> ardchoille: well, i'm sorry for thinking so, but if it's a bad idea to try it, tell me why so i don't use it
[12:33] <idontknow> but thats not why im here
[12:33] <KrisWood> ok that works I guess
[12:33] <sean> vsftp is not very secure
[12:34] <idontknow> proftpd is good
[12:34] <ardchoille> goblyn: You are now on my ignore list. Please be respectful of channel policies in the future
[12:34] <delta> Hi.
[12:34] <KrisWood> I've been happy with proftpd up until now
[12:34] <klm-> gftp
[12:34] <idontknow> easy to use, i suggest usin webmin with it
[12:34] <KrisWood> I'd like to keep using it
[12:34] <goblyn> ok, can someone tell me what ardchoille's problem is? i asked a simple question
[12:34] <KrisWood> webmin is a security risk
[12:34] <idontknow> lol everything is o.O
[12:34] <KrisWood> and a pain to set up as well
[12:35] <delta> I can see a connection I don't know from the internet on my local ip. What can I do?
[12:35] <sean> Anyone know anything that will put /. headlines in my menu bar thingy???
[12:36] <idontknow> anyone know where i might be able to go look
[12:36] <idontknow> to get some help
[12:36] <KrisWood> anyway, would it be possible to have the standalone version of proftpd start automaticly in init.d like vsftpd does?
[12:36] <idontknow> on my issue
[12:36] <idontknow> with my forums
[12:36] <KrisWood> hmmm
[12:37] <Amaranth> idontknow: I'd talk to the people who make the forum software.
[12:37] <Flannel> idontknow: Those images are the problem.  Look through your code, take a look at the other site.  And, clean up your html, you have a webpage in a webpage.
[12:37] <Amaranth> idontknow: If it worked before and the mysql and etc packages haven't changed since something is wrong with your database or your software
[12:37] <idontknow> flannel, some topics load fast
[12:37] <idontknow> the sites been working as is for a long time
[12:37] <Flannel> idontknow: the ones without those orange banner images load fast