[20:19] <botux1> sebsebseb: if ubunut recommends fresh install each time a new version comes out then that would be a lot of backing up of documnets and stuff
[20:19] <coz_> GodfatherofEire,  which driver for which hardware?
[20:19] <ikonia> sebsebseb: don't lie - if you thought that was the wrong command you wouldn't make a comment like "looks like 32bit" there is no way you can tell it's 32bit from that line
[20:19] <bove> can someone recommend a ProFTPD interface running on apache?
[20:19] <vegombrei> hey can i install intrepid on my new fujitsu lifebook 8711
[20:19] <moller_> ikonia: How would I check it then?
[20:19] <sebsebseb> botux1: sometimes there is a proper reason to clean install, and other times an upgrade is just fine
[20:19] <GodfatherofEire> coz_ RTL8185L
[20:19] <ikonia> moller_: uname -m shows you the architechture
[20:19] <botux1> oh ok
[20:19] <coz_> vegombrei,  did you download the live cd?
[20:20] <botux1> most people have been telling me clean install is bets way
[20:20] <vegombrei> coz_: i could
[20:20] <coz_> GodfatherofEire,   mm  what is that?
[20:20] <sebsebseb> botux1: when 9.04 is released and for those that want the Ext4 file system, well yes  getting rid of 8.10 and putting 9.04 on with Ext4 partitions, would be a proper reason for a clean install,   ,but for those that don't care about it,  an upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 would be ok
[20:20] <moller_> ikonia: Well it returns i686 which is 32 bit, but doesnt that change depending on if I use 32 bit ubuntu or 64 bit?
[20:20] <coz_> vegombrei,  that would be the best way of checking   just stick it in reboot and see if things work well
[20:20] <sebsebseb> botux1: it's just meant to be a lot faster and such
[20:20] <ikonia> moller_: that shows you are using ubuntu 32bit
[20:20] <vegombrei> coz_: you think i'd face a driver problem or anything coz i really prefer ubuntu to vista
[20:20] <GodfatherofEire> coz_ its a wireless card
[20:20] <coz_> moller_,  yes  so you have 32 bit installed
[20:20] <mar2> tonyyarusso: sorry tony i disappeared for a while
[20:20] <ikonia> moller_: it won't change unless you install the ubuntu 64bit distribution
[20:21] <coz_> GodfatherofEire, `oh  ok   darn I am not up on wireless cards at all    I am sure someone here can helpt though
[20:21] <spaceBARbarian> i am getting an error when trying to load gsynaptics, it says set "SHMconfig" to 1 in xorg.conf, but doesnt ubuntu use HAL or something now ?
[20:21] <moller_> coz_: If i then installed 64 bit, it would return something else, aye?
[20:21] <botux1> ok got ya
[20:21] <ikonia> moller_: correct
[20:21] <coz_> moller_,  indeed it it would:0
[20:21] <coz_> :)
[20:21] <GodfatherofEire> No problem
[20:21] <gauravkittz> ikonia how r 32 bit and 64 bit are different??
[20:21] <coz_> GodfatherofEire,  do you have a link for the dirver?
[20:21] <botux1> Ext4 better a lot better?
[20:21] <mar2> tonyyarusso: i accidentily pressed that shortcut before reading what you said not realising it took me completely away from the desktop..had no idea how to get back :-!
[20:21] <ikonia> gauravkittz: different hardware platforms
[20:21] <ikonia> botux1: no - it's still very early
[20:21] <sebsebseb> botux1: and I have a proper reason to clean install my setup,  which is not 8.10 anymore, and that's been a while.   never get a development version when your new by the way
[20:21] <moller_> Well, how would I then figure out if my cpu was able to handle 64 bit?
[20:22] <coz_> GodfatherofEire,  there should be a README  file inside the driver directory that you downloaded
[20:22] <ikonia> moller_: let me ask you this why do you "want" to use 64bit ?
[20:22] <eqisow> guaravkittz: the difference, essentially, is address space. a 32bit register vs a 64bit register
[20:22] <GodfatherofEire> coz_ there is, but it just says to load the module to the kernel
[20:22] <botux1> right
[20:22] <ikonia> eqisow: super one line summary
[20:22] <eqisow> guaravkittz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64bit
[20:22] <coz_> GodfatherofEire, o0   mm  do you have a link for that driver   let me take a look at it
[20:23] <CrawfordComeaux> ikonia: sudo mount /dev/sdc /external/media (sdc1 not available). also tried -t autofs, xfs, ntfs, hfsplus, vfat.  also tried disabling ehci_hcd before connecting.
[20:23] <botux1> big difference btw ext3 and ext4?
[20:23] <GodfatherofEire> coz_ http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8185L
[20:23] <ikonia> CrawfordComeaux: you mount a partition - not a disk
[20:23] <sebsebseb> ikonia: he probably does not know the difference between  32bit and 64bit Linux,  to be honest I am not 100% sure myself
[20:23] <coz_> you can look at 32 and 64 bit  like a milshake with 32 straws or 64  straws:)
[20:23] <moller_> ikonia: Because I used it with Wubi, so therefore I was more used to that, and because my graphic driver seems to be messed up, so I thought it might be because of 32 bit, but I must be wrong.
[20:23] <_pisecx_> Hi. I have a question to english-speaking people. Does word "ubuntology" makes any sense to you?
[20:23] <ikonia> sebsebseb: then let him answer
[20:23] <CrawfordComeaux> ok...so no partition is detected on the disk.  what now?
[20:23] <eth01> coz_: that's a terrible idiom
[20:23] <deco> is  opera  better than firefox?
[20:23] <ikonia> CrawfordComeaux: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc put it in a pastebin
[20:24] <ikonia> deco: try it see what you like
[20:24] <ikonia> moller_: there is no different in how you manage a 32bit/64bit desktop so you won't be used to one more than the other
[20:24] <eqisow> !best | deco
[20:24] <deco> lol
[20:24] <coz_> eth01,  I know  but it gets part of the message across :)
[20:25] <coz_> GodfatherofEire,  I believe the readme file states   (2)Load the driver module to kernel and start up nic
[20:25] <coz_>     		./wlan0up
[20:26] <GodfatherofEire> coz_ i know
[20:26] <GodfatherofEire> I need to know HOW to load it to the kernel
[20:26] <moller_> Well thanks all. Im off to restarting my computer
[20:26] <coz_> GodfatherofEire,   in terminal   ./wlan0up
[20:26] <coz_> brb
[20:27] <botux1> anyone know of any programs for blackberries and linux
[20:27] <berriop> I was used dd to erase a hard drive, I make a mistake and I used dd with with /dev/hda instead of /dev/sda, now I have a new hard drive as hda with 250MB, How can I remove/merge that hda dev ??
[20:27] <ikonia> botux1: there is a sync program called "john" but it's quite beta and breaks a lot
[20:27] <ikonia> botux1: nothing official as blackberry is closed source from rim
[20:27] <sebsebseb> ikonia: if someone put 32bit  Ubuntu on  a  64bit compatible  computer, would uname -m  say that their computer can handle 64bit?
[20:27] <ikonia> sebsebseb: no
[20:28] <botux1> ikonia: wow right i have a curve and would love to synch and update it through ubuntu
[20:28] <sebsebseb> ikonia: it's only for the version that is installed?
[20:28] <ikonia> sebsebseb: correct
[20:28] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ok that's what I thought, thanks
[20:28] <berriop>  I have used dd to erase a hard drive, I made a mistake and I have used dd with /dev/hda instead of /dev/sda, now I have a new hard drive as hda with 250MB, How can I remove/merge that hda dev ??
[20:28] <mar2> tonyyarusso: would you mind explaining again how to unmount/remount that folder/partition?
[20:29] <sebsebseb> ikonia: what's the difference between i386 and i686?
[20:30] <ikonia> sebsebseb: one is optimised for new x86 platform, but in reality nothing
[20:31] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ah I see,  i386 for older x86  and  i686 for newer
[20:31] <erUSUL> berriop: hda did not existed before?
[20:31] <CrawfordComeaux> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d6d8951f9
[20:31] <ikonia> pretty much, but in reality it meants nothing
[20:31] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ok thanks again
[20:31] <ikonia> CrawfordComeaux: that disk has no partition table
[20:32] <berriop> erusul: yes it didnt exist, just sda
[20:32] <CrawfordComeaux> then how was windows able to store any files on it?
[20:32] <erUSUL> berriop: what does ls -l /dev/hda says ?
[20:32] <sebsebseb> CrawfordComeaux: that's a Wubi install?
[20:33] <mib_wbho696i> can someone help, if i dont get this sorted then i have lost out on a job opportunity i need wifi on my laptop so i can connect wireless instead of trying to get a wired connection !!!??
[20:33] <CrawfordComeaux> sebsebseb: running on livecd
[20:33] <sebsebseb> !wireless | mib_wbho696i:
[20:33] <berriop> erusul: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 262930432 2009-04-07 19:51 /dev/hda
[20:33] <sebsebseb> CrawfordComeaux: well be careful or you will delete Windows,  assuming your in the partition editor
[20:33] <oblenob> how does one get DV input?
[20:33] <erUSUL> berriop: you can just remove it... "sudo rm /dev/hda"
[20:34] <mib_wbho696i> ubuttu:dont dont help,after updating to the new kernel my wireless stop working
[20:34] <berriop> erusul: ok i ll try that, thanks
[20:34] <n8tuser> mib_wbho696i -> post the results of  sudo lshw -C network;   iwconfig; ifconfig; cat /etc/network/interfaces
[20:35] <CrawfordComeaux> sebsebseb: I'm not.  the drive's partitions aren't even detected from the livecd.  I'm going to see if coworker has that data anywhere else to see if I can reformat the drive...
[20:35] <sebsebseb> CrawfordComeaux: ok
[20:35] <berriop> erusul: done!! thanks, have a nice day :)
[20:35] <mib_wbho696i> n8tuser:http://www.mibbit.com/pb/p3uhwl
[20:36] <erUSUL> berriop: no problem
[20:36] <berriop> quit :)
[20:37] <dominique> Can someone tell me where Nautilus saves/manages passwords from the "connect to server"-tool?
[20:37] <emoXodus> #club-ubuntu
[20:37] <sebsebseb> !troll | emoXodus
[20:37] <n8tuser> mib_wbho696i -> your driver for your wifi is not loaded,  also do not attempt to have both the wifi and your eth0 connected on same subnet and router
[20:37] <sebsebseb> emoXodus: heh at that
[20:37] <dominique> or where i can edit/delete them?
[20:38] <blup> hello i have downloaded the beta 9.04 and dureing the installation the mouse pointer was invisible and is invisible too after installation. Now i'm useing the "ctrl" key to see where the pointer is. Any subbestion about fixing this issue?
[20:38] <emoXodus> how do you join other channels?
[20:38] <sebsebseb> emoXodus: click the link you gave us
[20:38] <emoXodus> other than that
[20:38] <lstarnes> emoXodus: /join #channel
[20:38] <dominique> emoXodus: /quit #channel
[20:38] <lstarnes> dominique: no
[20:38] <emoXodus> oh okay ty i wont do that anymore
[20:39] <Fezia> It there any difference between a Ubuntu LiveCd created by using Brasero and turned into a ubuntu.iso or a downloaded Ubuntu LiveCD as iso file?
[20:39] <antii> how come my xorg.conf is empty? just installed 8.10
[20:39] <sebsebseb> emoXodus: that channel  is not that good, that you want to jion anyway
[20:39] <uyf747> This may not be the right channel for this but... I've remotely reset my dedicated server and it claims "device not accepting address 2, error -71
[20:39] <mib_wbho696i> n8tuser: how to get it i loaded  again because the kernel stopped it, also i dont, i am connected and on ubuntu now, trying to get this problem sorted
[20:39] <sebsebseb> Fezia: the md5sum will tell you
[20:39] <thiebaude> antii: thats done automatically
[20:39] <emoXodus> whats a good one to hang out in?
[20:39] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  Fezia
[20:39] <antii> thiebaude: its empty??
[20:39] <sebsebseb> emoXodus: #ubuntu-offtopic is alright
[20:39] <n8tuser> !wifi | mib_wbho696i
[20:40] <thiebaude> mine is too,antii
[20:40] <emoXodus> okay ty
[20:40] <dominique> Where can I manage saved passwords from Nautilus' "Connect to server"?
[20:40] <sebsebseb> emoXodus: the one you wanted to join is ok
[20:40] <eseven73> emoXodus, #ubuntu+1 is more chatty than here as well as #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:40] <blup> I would like to report a bug in ubuntu 9.04 beta: Mouse pointer Invisible. Do you have an idea about how to solve it or have I to downgrade to 8.04 ?
[20:40] <Fezia> ubottu: Ok, thanks.
[20:40] <antii> thiebaude: think I need one for my ATI HD4870 :S
[20:40] <Pici> eseven73: #ubuntu+1 is still a support channel.
[20:40] <sebsebseb> blup: wrong channel go to #ubuntu+1  and  #ubuntu-bugs
[20:40] <eseven73> yes of course
[20:41] <eseven73> but it's still more "CHATTY"
[20:41] <blup> ok thanx sebsebseb
[20:41] <mib_wbho696i> n8tuser: i tried it done nothing || ubottu: as  stated i have looked at that page and it has not helped
[20:41] <ubuntunewbb> I need some help!
[20:41] <hatter243> mib_wbho696i, ubottu is a bot
[20:41] <sebsebseb> ubuntunewbb: welcome and just ask the question
[20:41] <dominique> ubuntunewbb: Ask.
[20:42] <hatter243> !bot
[20:42] <sebsebseb> dominique: !ask  I think you may have wanted
[20:42] <ubuntunewbb> I have a AMD 64bit processor and I need to install flash player but the package i downloaded only supports i386
[20:42] <barf> How can I add stuff to the games menu?
[20:42] <mib_wbho696i> hatter243: oh right, so me saying that is really me speaking to a wall
[20:42] <frostburn> barf, right click edit menu
[20:42] <hatter243> mib_wbho696i,  :P What's your question?
[20:42] <n8tuser> mib_wbho696i -> read again, there may be instructions there how to load your driver
[20:42] <marcoaa> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:42] <hatter243> oh
[20:42] <simplexio> ubuntunewbb: is your system x86_64 or 32bit ?
[20:42] <sebsebseb> barf: browse Synaptic
[20:42] <dominique> ubuntunewbb: Maybe adobe's site provides the right package or source
[20:43] <sebsebseb> !synaptic
[20:43] <barf> frostburn: Can it be done from command line?
[20:43] <frostburn> ubuntunewbb, there is a 64bit package that uses a 32bit wrapper
[20:43] <frostburn> barf, no?
[20:43] <totimkopf> hmm, I am unable to get wireless working with ubuntu 8.04 hardy, but for some weird reason i am able to get it to work with kubuntu 8.04? what's the deal here?
[20:43] <botux1> sebsebseb: now to try kde4  hehe brb
[20:43] <ubuntunewbb> simplexio how do I find out? I'm pretty sure its 32 bit though
[20:43] <shubbar> mouse pointer movementtttt is jerky
[20:43] <mib_wbho696i> hatter243: my question is how can i get my amilo 1718 laptop working with wifi again
[20:43] <sebsebseb> ubuntunewbb: yes you can  get directly from Adobe
[20:43] <barf> ln -s /usr/local/vice/x64 /somewhere/applications/Games/VICE 64
[20:43] <Geoffrey2> if I'm getting audio from some flash movies, but not others (even though they DO have an audio track), any ideas where I start looking to fix the problem?
[20:43] <barf> something along those line?
[20:43] <barf> s
[20:43] <shubbar> a process is hogging up my cpu power
[20:43] <dominique> totimkopf: Where you stuck exactly? Getting no connection to access point?
[20:43] <simplexio> ubuntunewbb: uname -ar in console
[20:43] <n8tuser> mib_wbho696i -> or you may google for how to load AR242 drivers
[20:44] <ubuntunewbb> sebsebseb when firefox took me to the site there was no 64 bit one to download
[20:44] <frostburn> ubuntunewbb, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:44] <simplexio> ubuntunewbb: dosent apt-get install flash work ?
[20:44] <sebsebseb> ubuntunewbb: you can get one from  synaptic or using apt-get
[20:44] <totimkopf> dominique, well, it supposedly connects but the bloody thing only gets "30%" AND it keeps prompting me for my password, when it is correct
[20:44] <barf> ln -s usr/local/euae/uae /somewhere/applications/Games/E-UAE
[20:44] <simplexio> ubuntunewbb: if i recall right i installed system that way..
[20:45] <ubuntunewbb> ubuntunewbb: dosent apt-get install flash work ?
[20:45] <ubuntunewbb> no, it says invalid operation flash
[20:45] <shubbar> my pc shouldn't be this slow, i am just runing firefox and transmiiiission
[20:45] <mib_wbho696i> n8tuser: i will try google again, the problem is i already have the tutorial for it to work again but the site is down so when i go "wget {url of download}" the site is not avaliable
[20:45] <hatter243> ubuntunewbb, apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:45] <dominique> totimkopf: connecting with networkmanager does not work? (gnome)
[20:45] <juanefren> is there a way to print using Lexmark X5070 ?
[20:45] <totimkopf> dominque, no, it does not...
[20:45] <frostburn> mib_wbho696i, can you reach the site in question, is dns working?  dig $URL
[20:45] <hatter243> ubuntunewbb, this package contains flash along with java and other restricted programs
[20:45] <totimkopf> dominique, it does not work
[20:46] <simplexio> ubuntunewbb: ??... apt-get install  flashplugin or flash-plugin
[20:46] <eseven73> ubuntunewbb, you'll need to add a sudo to that
[20:46] <gauravkittz> is there a better way to reply than always typing /msg name
[20:46] <mib_wbho696i> frostburn:the main page of madwifi i can but anything else is a no go
[20:46] <dominique> gauravkittz: Yes, leave out /msg name.
[20:46] <frostburn> gauravkittz, it depends on your irc client, xchat enables you to have separate messages in different windows
[20:46] <ikus060> Hi, Is there any people having an Apple keyboard here ??
[20:46] <dominique> totimkopf: Do you get any error message...?
[20:47] <ubuntunewbb> AHHH! this room is nuts. who ever thinks they can help me with my flash plugin problem please start a PC wit me
[20:47] <frostburn> mib_ifzzhkyx, what's the exact command you're trying
[20:47] <cchaos> Hello
[20:47] <totimkopf>  kernel: [  706.626341] rtl8187: EE:Error TX URB 0, error -2
[20:47] <totimkopf>  <-- i get those in /var/log/messages
[20:47] <thiebaude> ubuntunewbb: goto adobe.com and grab the flash .deb
[20:47] <ikonia> ubuntunewbb: just install the package "flashplugin-nonfree"
[20:47] <ubuntunewbb> thiebaude: tried that
[20:47] <ikonia> ubuntunewbb: it's in the package manager and one click away
[20:47] <dominique> totimkopf: But how do you remark that you're wireless internet does not work?
[20:48] <dominique> *your
[20:48] <safetynet> Where can I change bootup to automatic login without password ?
[20:48] <ubuntunewbb> ) ikonia no it is not
[20:48] <ubuntunewbb> I wouldn't be asking if it was that easy LOL
[20:48] <ikonia> ubuntunewbb: why is it no?
[20:48] <totimkopf> dominique, well, the connection is weak at 30% and the keyring thing keeps prompting me for my password. In essence, I cannot connect to anything on the internet
[20:48] <resno> I need some using grep. I want to search a group of folders for documents that contain certain text.
[20:48] <player1up> i just upgraded to 9.04 and now Amarok doesnt play sounds..  all system sounds are ok... any ideas?
[20:48] <gauravkittz> go to login manager
[20:48] <ikonia> ubuntunewbb: have you installed "flashplugin-nonfree" package ?
[20:48] <thiebaude> ubuntunewbb: in synaptic
[20:48] <ikonia> !jaunty > player1up
[20:49] <ubuntunewbb> ikonia: its retuning an error
[20:49] <dominique> totimkopf: Your w-lan is encrypted? WEP?
[20:49] <ikonia> ubuntunewbb: what error ?
[20:49] <totimkopf> dominique, yes
[20:49] <cchaos> Ive a problem with a Nvidia GeForce 5600 FX: it only likes displaying 640x480
[20:49] <thiebaude> player1up: #ubuntu+1 might have an answer
[20:49] <totimkopf> dominique, I use WPA Personal
[20:49] <player1up> thank you
[20:49] <dominique> totimkopf: Ubuntu has several problems with encrypted networks, did you check the wiki (there are guides to solve the problem)?
[20:49] <mib_wbho696i> frostburn: this is the command to try and get the file "wget -c http://snapshots.madwifi.org/special/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007.tar.gz"
[20:50] <totimkopf> dominique, no, i  did not know...could i see the wiki for this?
[20:50] <jcole> how do i enable vnc-java http access in vino?
[20:50] <frostburn> mib_wbho696i, that's a redirect to a file
[20:50] <ikonia> !pm  > ubuntunewbb
[20:50] <dominique> totimkopf: Is it right you're german?
[20:50] <resno> I need help using grep. I want to search a group of folders for documents that contain certain text. Right now, it just stalls.
[20:51] <mib_wbho696i> frostburn: even access to the homepage is not working
[20:51] <ikonia> resno: grep -R $string *
[20:52] <totimkopf> dominique, no, english is my first language
[20:52] <lukavia> hi
[20:52] <resno> ikonia: Sweet. Thanks.
[20:52] <dominique> totimkopf: Sorry, was because of your nickname.
[20:52] <cchaos> Help? lol
[20:52] <gauravkittz> gwibber alternatives neone???
[20:52] <lukavia> i need help with ALSA in 8.10 PLS
[20:52] <dominique> totimkopf: I got here the german version, ahm...
[20:52] <frostburn> mib_wbho696i, it resolves, but i can't curl it
[20:52] <dominique> !wpa | totimkopf
[20:52] <Geoffrey2> sigh...
[20:53] <mib_wbho696i> frostburn: my wireless card is a "Atheros Chipsets " and the site i need to file from "http://madwifi.org/" but after clicking on the link the site seems down or dead
[20:53] <frostburn> mib_wbho696i, http://madwifi.org is up, but i don't see the subdomain snapshots working
[20:53] <whileimhere> Hi. I have about 500 files in a directory and I need each one to be zipped up in its own zip file with the same name as the file. Is there a way to do this automated?
[20:54] <Mike_lifeguard> Earlier I was told "<edsmaffs>	But if you haven't defragged, any files at the end of the primary partition will be deleted"
[20:54] <Mike_lifeguard> So, defrag just finished, but it really doesn't look all that defragmented
[20:54] <Mike_lifeguard> Should I worry about losing files like that?
[20:54] <Picassotamus> whileimhere: learn to write a bash script file :), probably not the answer you were looking for i know
[20:54] <mib_wbho696i> frostburn: im aware that it is up, but as you said the snapshots part is not working , do you no if there is another way to download?
[20:54] <frostburn> whileimhere, yes it's possible, let me see if i can hash something out.   you want zip or tar.gz?
[20:55] <Fezia> I don't find any md5sum for Ubuntu 8.04, only for Ubuntu 8.04.1. Where is the md5sum for 8.04 original LiveCD?
[20:55] <frostburn> mib_wbho696i, nope, sorry =(
[20:55] <whileimhere> Picassotamus yeah I figured that was the only way probably.
[20:55] <kazaLite> whenever i start totem movie player it appears and then disappears.....how can i investigate the cause of crash?
[20:55] <lukavia> somebody help please with ALSA, i am browsing forums for three days now and no success..................
[20:55] <whileimhere> I need .zip files
[20:55] <whileimhere> frostburn: I need to zip compress them as much as I can just to save some space.
[20:56] <cchaos> Nvidia Geforce 5600 FX who wants to help me?
[20:56] <mib_wbho696i> frostburn: its ok, guess ill just have to go back to my orginal OS if i can :(
[20:56] <n8tuser> mib_wbho696i -> which ubuntu version you have? dont you have ath5k or ath9k ?
[20:56] <cchaos> Hey clearscreen sorry about disappearing last night but my internet died
[20:57] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: do you have a few moments?
[20:57] <marcoaa> holaaaaaa, soy nuevo en linux, alguién puede ayudarme con algunos consejos?????????
[20:57] <clearscreen> cchaos: that's ok, I have a really short memory span :P
[20:57] <Fezia> ubottu: I don't find a md5sum for the Ubuntu 8.04 original LiveCD that was the first one to come out. I only find the md5sum for 8.04.2?
[20:57] <mib_wbho696i> n8tuser: how can i tell , i no i have 8.10 thats about it atm
[20:57] <dominique> marcoaa: ubuntu-es
[20:57] <jpds> !es | marcoaa
[20:57] <clearscreen> cchaos: I remember your nickname, but dont remember about anything we talked about or if you disappeared or whatever :P
[20:57] <VE2EBP> Hi guys, I would have a question. Yesterday I installed Ubuntu 8.10 and I was so amazed how fast my 1.6GHz mini-Acer AspireOne with 1 GB of RAM was running so smoothly. I downloaded all the updates, security patches, etc that it suggested I do and now it seems like it's slower. What did I do wrong? Thanks in advance Pierce
[20:57] <Fezia> ubottu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#8.04%20LTS
[20:57] <michael_> hey guys i have a problem i can't get my synaptic package manager to launch at all? im using ubuntu 8.10 x64
[20:58] <n8tuser> mib_wbho696i -> look for your ath9k or ath5k driver to see if those will work instead of madwifi
[20:58] <ultratek> how do i get nmbd running in swat..it wont start
[20:58] <Fezia> ubottu: On that link. It only shows 8.04.2. Where can I check the md5sum of a Ubuntu 8.04 LiveCD shipped fron Cannonical?
[20:58] <Ienorand> michael_: What does launching it from terminal give you?
[20:58] <Pici> Fezia: ubottu is a bot, what are you teying to do or look for?
[20:58] <cchaos> Lol clearscreen nvidia geforce 5600 FX: probs with screen res (always displaying 640x480 and cant change to more senseible ones)
[20:58] <jcole> i want to enable the http java viewer in ubuntu remote desktop (vino) so window users can access my desktop for conferences... do i need to recompile vino or is there a hidden option somewhere?
[20:58] <clearscreen> VE2EBP: you could reduce the amount of services / session applications started up (system -> preferences / administration)
[20:58] <michael_> Ienorand, hold on i forgot to change my nick ha
[20:59] <VE2EBP> oh thaks clearscreen
[20:59] <jcole> windows*
[20:59] <clearscreen> cchaos: using nvidia drivers or what?
[20:59] <VE2EBP> let me see if I can try that
[20:59] <unko> Ienorand, whats the command to launch from terminal?
[20:59] <VE2EBP> How do I know what I should stop
[20:59] <Fezia> Pici: Never mind. I do it anothe rway.
[20:59] <Ienorand> unko: synaptic
[21:00] <jcole> rdp access would be fine also
[21:00] <cchaos> Yeah clearscreen I have the drivers installed but its still not helping with the prob
[21:00] <unko> Ienorand, ook
[21:00] <clearscreen> VE2EBP: well, it's best that you look up what's what before  you do so... but for example if you don't use bluetooth, you can disable the bluez service.. or cups if you dont use printing devices.. etc
[21:00] <dudette> what does it mean again if the file permissions are given like this 0700? i mean why 4 digits and not 3?
[21:00] <VE2EBP> I don't understand because I still have 500 MB of memory available
[21:00] <lukavia> ALSA problem, please help
[21:00] <VE2EBP> Ok ok...
[21:00] <wathek> hrllo all
[21:01] <unko> Ienorand, wow? it launched what the hell?
[21:01] <n8tuser> dudette -> the 1st digit is the file type
[21:01] <aliases> hello every1
[21:01] <VE2EBP> Would you have a webpage I could go to in order to find what's what?
[21:01] <Picassotamus> lukavia: You will need to be more specific then that, unless you just need the factoid
[21:01] <wathek> I got an Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 I'd like to know if it's better to install Ubuntu 64 bits or 32 bits ?
[21:01] <unko> Ienorand, now it won't let me apply my changes?
[21:01] <Ienorand> unko: And it doesn't work from menu?
[21:01] <dudette> n8tuser: the file type? then what is 0?
[21:02] <unko> Ienorand, no...
[21:02] <mib_wbho696i> n8tuser: mine is ath5k
[21:02] <GodfatherofEir1> I could really use some help here, cause I accidentally just locked myself out of my bootloader
[21:02] <lukavia> Picassotamus: for three days i am trying to install ALSA, compile after compile and no success
[21:02] <sn00p-> How do I make my external monitor work on my laptop which has ubuntu installed? its a 6150 nvidia go video card
[21:02] <Ienorand> unko: That is probably because you have launched it with limited priviliges, try using: "gksu synaptic" instead.
[21:02] <n8tuser> dudette -> man ls;    0 is type regular text file
[21:02] <PROMO> Hi, how can I find out what version of libpcap do I have on my Ubuntu machine ?
[21:03] <Picassotamus> lukavia: ok, what version of ubuntu?
[21:03] <unko> Ienorand, i did su than launced it
[21:03] <GodfatherofEir1> Anybody know how to un-password the GRUB from a root terminal?
[21:03] <lukavia> Picassotamus: so i ended up with aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found... Ibex 8.10
[21:03] <n8tuser> mib_wbho696i -> then try to use that ath5k
[21:03] <VE2EBP> Clearscreen: Thank you very much
[21:03] <n8tuser> mib_wbho696i -> or you may even google for why ath5k may replace ath9k or vice versa
[21:03] <lukavia> Picassotamus: but i have sound in win xp ...... so what do u think
[21:04] <cchaos> Clearscreen: heres a list of what Ive tried so far: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=0d20d39e4dfc9bdcc64d5ed7c8e5e7ce&p=7019395#post7019395
[21:04] <unko> Ienorand, but i still can't launch it from the menu
[21:04] <PROMO> please let me know what command will return the version of ubuntu ?
[21:04] <wathek> could you please help me ?
[21:04] <wathek> I got an Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 I'd like to know if it's better to install Ubuntu 64 bits or 32 bits ?
[21:04] <Slart> wathek: how much memory do you have?
[21:04] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEir1 -> you know the current password right? edit the menu.lst file
[21:05] <GodfatherofEir1> I really need to know how to un-password the GRUB, because I need to access recovery mode
[21:05] <wathek> Slart: 2Go
[21:05] <unko> Ienorand, can i pm you?
[21:05] <dudette> n8tuser: where did you get that info from? "man ls" doesn't mention this anywhere
[21:05] <Ienorand> unko: Sure.
[21:05] <Picassotamus> lukavia: Alsa is default, did you uninstall it, or trying new version?
[21:05] <GodfatherofEir1> n8tuser, but its been put in an MD5 hash, and no, I could have sworn I typed in the password correctly, but I guess I didnt
[21:05] <Slart> wathek: the difference between the 32 and 64 bit is mainly that 64 bit can address more than 4GB of memory.. speedwise it's almost the same
[21:05] <n8tuser> dudette -> do you like to argue or follow what i suggested?
[21:06] <GodfatherofEir1> I've tried several alterations, but I guess I made an error putting it in initially
[21:06] <lukavia> Picassotamus: i tried alsa-driver-1.0.19
[21:06] <wathek> Slart: so no difference if I install 32 or 64 bits
[21:06] <wathek> ok
[21:06]  * jcole discovers xrdp
[21:06] <mib_wbho696i> n8tuser: would trying 9.4 make a diffrence ?
[21:06] <GodfatherofEir1> n8tuser, /boot/grub/menu.lst right?
[21:06] <wathek> thanx Slart
[21:06] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEir1 -> no other way i know of other than re-installing
[21:06] <Slart> wathek: some proprietary stuff is still 32 bit only.. I can't use the firefox plugin for my e-security thingy since it's 32bit only..
[21:06] <dudette> n8tuser: what did you suggest? i am looking at the man ls page and can not find that section where it says that 0 mean regular text file
[21:06] <Picassotamus> lukavia: Is you card listed as supported by ALSA?
[21:06] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEir1 -> yes its that file
[21:07] <wathek> Slart: I see
[21:07] <GodfatherofEir1> Ok, i'll try again
[21:07] <cchaos> Anyone?
[21:07] <n8tuser> mib_wbho696i -> i dont know, its not released yet
[21:07] <aliases> I need to use strstr() in a bash script, but I get a "syntax error near unexpected token `$out, '"
[21:07] <Slart> wathek: but java, flash etc is available for 64 bit these days
[21:07] <juanefren> Is possible to print with windows dirvers using  WINE ?
[21:07] <grumbel> Is there a way to upgrade Ubuntu from the console? i.e. I am searching for the  effects of "update-manager -d" without manually editing the apt/sources files
[21:07] <hendrixski> I want to bid on a laptop on ebay without a hard-drive, because I have one and can just install Ubuntu...
[21:07] <mib_wbho696i> n8tuser: the beta is,
[21:07] <haytham-med1> hi all, how to record the sound?
[21:07] <hendrixski> but the post says it's only tested to see if it boots to Bios
[21:07] <Slart> !upgrade | grumbel
[21:07] <lukavia> Picassotamus: hmmm, i didn't check that, in 8.04 worked ....
[21:07] <hendrixski> if a computer boots to bios, will it also boot to hard-drive?
[21:07] <Slart> grumbel: check how to upgrade the server version of ubuntu.. that doesn't come with X/Gnome
[21:08] <Picassotamus> lukavia: It should still be supported then... i still don't understand why you are trying to compile ALSA
[21:08] <sebsebseb> Mike_lifeguard: here now
[21:08] <mib_wbho696i> is there a way to get stuff i have removed from the trash bin ?
[21:08] <hendrixski> or is there a significant risk that a computer won't recognize any hard-drives?
[21:08] <Slart> mib_wbho696i: there are a few tools.. testdisk is one
[21:08] <GodfatherofEir1> thanks n8tuser, must have not saved the changes
[21:08] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: Can I just PM you? It's noisy in here :)
[21:08] <lukavia> Picassotamus: what am i suppose to do ?
[21:09] <haytham-med1> directly from computer, not through a mike
[21:09] <sebsebseb> Mike_lifeguard: yep of course
[21:09] <Slart> mib_wbho696i: take a look at "photorec" or "foremost"
[21:09] <cchaos> Is there anyone that can help me? :s
[21:09] <lukavia> Picassotamus: i install fresh copy of 8.10 via Wubi and i have no sound
[21:09] <grumbel> Slart: ok, do-release-upgrade seems to do the trick
[21:10] <hendrixski> If I want to install Ubuntu should I buy an HP Compaq Tablet PC?
[21:10] <PROMO> Hi, I have  Ubuntu 8.04.2 , how can I find the version of   libpcap   on my machine ?
[21:10] <antii> are there a ati control panel in ubuntu??
[21:11] <hendrixski> or rather... if I buy an HP Compaq tablet will I be able to install Ubuntu without a hitch?
[21:11] <FrozenFire> Is there a guide on how to rebuild a Ubuntu system where the drive is partitioned into / and /home?
[21:11] <Waldir> Hi all. Has anyone here used Pinky Tagger?
[21:11] <john> hey
[21:11] <john> I seen you java guides
[21:11] <lukavia> antii: yes, install envyng-gtk and use it
[21:11] <Picassotamus> lukavia: Wubi? That's something I'm really not familiary with.... so ubuntu is running as an app on windows?
[21:11] <john> but my Ubuntu server is having issues with java
[21:12] <john> how do I install java
[21:12] <dudette> n8tuser: could it be that 0700 means no sticky bit?
[21:12] <Guest60320> I read all your guides and it won't work
[21:12] <Matson> how do I decied noatime vs relatime on ext3 fs install?
[21:12] <n8tuser> dudette -> is a regular text file, try this   file  filename
[21:12] <Matson> not finding much on google
[21:12] <krammer_> hello, I am trying to remove a folder but its showing error mesg dont have permissions
[21:12] <Guest60320> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:12] <Guest60320> openjdk-6-jre-headless
[21:12] <Guest60320> openjdk-6-jre
[21:12] <Guest60320> ca-certificates-java
[21:12] <lukavia> Picassotamus: :) Wubi is installer under windows, at boot it asks which OS to start, so ubuntu is completely separate
[21:12] <FloodBot1> Guest60320: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:13] <FrozenFire> Picassotamus: Wubi installs itself within the Windows file system, adds itself as a Windows "program," then adds a boot loader entry. It runs as Ubuntu itself, but does not require modification of your Windows installation.
[21:13] <gafir> hello, does anyone have a subscription to O'Reilly Safari here, i'm experiencing an annoying problem with this: http://getsatisfaction.com/oreilly/topics/oreilly_safari_videos_downloads_and_ubuntu_incompatibility ---- I thought someone else MUST experience the same thing!
[21:13] <dudette> n8tuser: check out http://tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/html/file-permissions.html and search for 0700 on the page with browser search function
[21:14] <Picassotamus> lukavia: ok.  Is your card listed via lspci, or lsusb?
[21:14] <daftykins> relatime is good for faster fsck'ing and also if you use mutt - Matson
[21:14] <daftykins> there is a discussion here Matson : http://kerneltrap.org/node/14148
[21:15] <n8tuser> dudette -> what are you trying to argue about?
[21:15] <Guest60320> Error in installtion of VM
[21:15] <Guest60320> please help me
[21:15] <Picassotamus> lukavia: afk for a min
[21:15] <frostburn> anyone know how to have bash automatically escape spaces parens and other things?  really don't want to write this in perl,php,etc  http://rafb.net/p/9FysuG86.html
[21:15] <sn00p-> are the nvidia-glx the binary drivers
[21:15] <Guest60320> Error in Installtion of VM
[21:15] <Guest60320> please help
[21:15] <lukavia> Picassotamus: via lspci - no, via lsusb i only have Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[21:16] <s0101> hi just a quick beginner question
[21:16] <s0101> is it bad to install pre-released intrepid proposed updated or third party updates?
[21:17] <krammer_> hello, I am trying to remove a folder but its showing error mesg dont have permissions
[21:17] <sebsebseb> s0101: no not at all
[21:17] <Guest60320>  Error in installtion of VM of java
[21:17] <Guest60320> PLEASE HELP
[21:17] <sn00p-> are the nvidia-glx the binary drivers
[21:17] <s0101> i thought they had bugs somtimes
[21:17] <Picassotamus> lukavia: well, assuming your card is on the pci, that is your problem... your soundcard isn't detected, so ALSA can't find it
[21:18] <Guest60320> omg
[21:18] <Guest60320> install sun-java6-jre
[21:18] <Guest60320> and then choose it in the list proposed after the command:
[21:18] <Guest60320> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[21:18] <Guest60320> help
[21:18] <Guest60320> pls
[21:18] <FloodBot1> Guest60320: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:18] <lukavia> Picassotamus: i have old desktop machine with integrated sound card
[21:18] <exco> what do I need to install to make fat/fat32/ntfs known to gparted?
[21:18] <s0101> why are they not ticked after installing ubuntu if they are good?
[21:19] <frostburn> krammer_, ls -lah dirname   do you have permissions to move that directory?
[21:19] <epictetu1> exco: You want to nondestructively reside them?
[21:19] <lukavia> Picassotamus: so when sound card is not listed in lspci maybe there is nothing we can do ?
[21:19] <s0101> ?
[21:19] <abchirk> ?
[21:19] <epictetu1> resize
[21:19] <exco> epictetu1: just want to format a SD card to fat32 but gparted has it greyed out
[21:20] <matamou> Hi, how come my system doesn't recognize usb-devices, ie. my usb hdd? :|
[21:20] <krammer_> frostburyn, I dont know where to start, i tried rm -r dir but then it ask for each file separtely before deleting
[21:20] <Picassotamus> lukavia: oh nvm then... well, if its integrated to mobo, its probably not PCI so wouldn't show up in lspci
[21:20] <frostburn> matamou, do a             lsusb       doyou see it there?
[21:20] <exco> matamou: do they show in lsusb?
[21:21] <frostburn> matamou, alternatively do a, ls /dev/disk/by-id/           do you see it there?
[21:21] <Picassotamus> lukavia: you could try lshw, see if its in there
[21:21] <matamou> nope, they dont
[21:21] <lukavia> Picassotamus: i will really appreciate any further help
[21:21] <exco> krammer if you run it with sudo it won't ask for each file but be careful with that command
[21:21] <krammer_> i was logged in a root
[21:22] <QaDeS> hiays. how come i got a 1-2 seconds midi delay when using alsa/jack?
[21:22] <matamou> I cant see the devices even using the command frostburn told
[21:22] <Picassotamus> lukavia: also, you wouldn't have been messing around w/ BIOS and disabled it would you have?
[21:22] <frostburn> matamou, use a different usb port, perhaps it died on the mobo
[21:22] <sequethin> if i right click a file on my desktop, there's properties, and there's a notes tab. is text that i put there available by any other means? is it file metadata? or is it strictly some gnome/nautilus sort of thing ?
[21:23] <Rob> Hi I am new to xubuntu and have a tech question
[21:23] <mar2> hi i have a few broadband isp accounts and i want to set them up in ubuntu so that i can switch between them. could anyone assist please?
[21:23] <sebsebseb> Rob: yes go ahead
[21:23] <krammer_> frostburn, I input this rm -r nacl and get this rm: descend into directory `nacl'?
[21:23] <exco> krammer_:  if you make a dir with stuff inside e.g. mkdir blah/blah -p you can remove it with  the r option "mr blah/ -r" without further confirmations
[21:23] <matamou> frostburn: still nothing :| well, i'll continue brainstorming
[21:24] <Rob> I just switched from ubuntu to xubuntu and am trying to send files from another pc (windows) to my xubuntu machine
[21:24] <krammer_> exco so i should create a dir then send nacl to the new one then remove it?
[21:24] <exco> *rm
[21:24] <exco> krammer_: no
[21:24] <Sench> Cavisty^gerber, HALP
[21:24] <Cavisty^gerber> Sench i cant help you lol, but im sure people in here can =)
[21:24] <Sench> lol
[21:24] <frostburn> krammer_, one of the directories in that directory you do not have permissions to delete
[21:24] <exco> krammer_: nacl is the dir you want to get rid of?
[21:24] <krammer_> yes
[21:24] <lukavia> Picassotamus: i am not 100% sure for the last, but if i had i would not get sound in windows neither, would i ?
[21:24] <Sench> anyone here who knows how to add .rar support in file roller
[21:25] <Sench> im using ubuntu desktop
[21:25] <exco> "sudo rm nacl -r"
[21:25] <matt> hello all
[21:25] <Picassotamus> lukavia: I wouldn't think so, good point
[21:25] <dudette> could anybody explain the answer of linux6 question 14 to me? it absolutely doesn't make sense to me. http://www.ph-home.de/linux-test/lpi-1/index.php why is the 2nd answer correct but not the first one?
[21:25] <lukavia> Picassotamus: i must go for few minutes, is it problem if i PM you and continue later ?
[21:25] <Sench> :o
[21:25] <matt> i searched around and couldnt find any fixes so i was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem i'm having
[21:25] <Sench> anyone here who knows how to add .rar support in file roller
[21:26] <exco> who can tell me what package makes fat32 available in gparted?
[21:26] <Picassotamus> sure, i'm not an expert, but ill help if i can :)
[21:26] <matt> every time i try to burn a cd in brasero or gnomebaker
[21:26] <matt> the app crashes
[21:26] <matt> it either freezes and i have to force quit
[21:26] <matt> or it just dissapears
[21:26] <matt> thing is
[21:26] <FloodBot1> matt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <krammer_> exco, well done thanks for your time
[21:26] <exco> krammer_:  anytime
[21:27] <Picassotamus> !rar | sench
[21:27] <Sench> thx i guess
[21:27] <Picassotamus> sench: Also it is generally considered rude to pm someone w/o asking them first
[21:27] <RedMushroom> when setting up a new partition for a fresh install what should i set the moint point as?
[21:27] <Sench> well
[21:27] <Sench> i was being nice and all
[21:27] <Sench> how come its rude all of a sudden
[21:27] <exco> RedMushroom: root partition: /
[21:27] <RedMushroom> exco: ty
[21:28] <brintal> hello, is it under 8.10 somehow possible to change the wireless-network priority?
[21:28] <deany> RedMushroom, you dont need to remake em, just tell it format
[21:28] <Picassotamus> Sench: I'm not mad... thats just etiquette, didn't make it, just letting you oknow
[21:28] <Sench> =/
[21:29] <matt> can anyone explain to me why brasero freezes up every time i try to add an mp3 file while trying to create an audio cd
[21:29] <_Brun0_> can I have gnome and xfce in my Ubuntu 8.10 installation? Does this use to mess up with anything in gnome or xfce? Also, If most of programs I use are gnome is it worth using xfce interface for better performance?
[21:30] <sebsebseb> _Brun0_: yes you can sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:30] <Guest60320> fuckers
[21:30] <Sench> lol
[21:30] <Guest60320> no help at all
[21:30] <Guest60320> I been asking for help this whole time
[21:30] <Guest60320> u just ignore me
[21:30] <Guest60320> u little fucks
[21:30] <FloodBot1> Guest60320: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:30] <deany> lolll
[21:30] <Picassotamus> Guest60320: lol, u feel entitled
[21:30] <_Brun0_> sebsebseb, for the rest of the questions?
[21:30] <lantay77> !zune
[21:31] <lantay77> ubuntu & zunes?
[21:31] <Guest60320> I had a server admin of mine
[21:31] <Guest60320> trying to install jav
[21:31] <Guest60320> I needed it for my game server
[21:31] <Sench> that guide is kinda useless Picassotamus
[21:31] <Guest60320> and I had a opening date
[21:31] <brintal> hello, is it under 8.10 somehow possible to change the wireless-network priority?
[21:31] <Guest60320> but
[21:31] <Guest60320> he had to go
[21:31] <Guest60320> sooo
[21:31] <LjL> !enter | Guest60320
[21:31] <Guest60320> u took to long
[21:31] <FloodBot1> Guest60320: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <_Brun0_> If most of programs I use are gnome, is it worth using xfce interface for better performance?
[21:31] <Guest60320> g
[21:31] <Guest60320> a
[21:31] <Guest60320> y
[21:31] <sebsebseb> _Brun0_: they work nicely together, and most of your programs will be for Gnome,  since XFCE is just a WM
[21:31] <Guest60320> f
[21:31] <Guest60320> a
[21:31] <Guest60320> g
[21:31] <FloodBot1> Guest60320: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <Guest60320> s
[21:31] <deany> not much of an admin then
[21:32] <_Brun0_> sebsebseb, ty alot
[21:32] <PROMO> Hi, I have Ubuntu 8.04.2 , how can I find the version of libpcap on my machine ?
[21:32] <sebsebseb> _Brun0_: and yes you can run those apps in both
[21:33] <vistausah> can sonome help me with this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448 I am using the VNC4server variant as this is a remote installation. I get a grey screen with Xvnc and with vnc4server it looks like I can't connect at all and the processs doesn't even seem to start
[21:33] <sebsebseb> !vnc |  vistausash
[21:33] <_Brun0_> sebastien, i know i can. I'm ocncerned if there will be a performance gain with xfce. My laptop is not slow, 2GB DD2 and NVidia 8400 video. But I'm always seeking for the better.
[21:34] <matt> can anyone explain to me why brasero freezes up every time i try to add an mp3 file while trying to create an audio cd
[21:34] <sebsebseb> _Brun0_: maybe a slight gain with XFCE
[21:34] <_Brun0_> matt, can you play mp3 files?
[21:34] <matt> yes
[21:34]  * kon <3's blender :)
[21:34] <vistausah> ty sebsebeseb but i know how to get VNC working... im specifically trying to get it working using xinetd
[21:34] <iamstupid> hi guys
[21:34] <BuzZz> hi  good afternoon
[21:34] <matt> i searched around, i cannot find any answeres to why this happens
[21:34] <dudette> what exactly does this mean? "The symbols \< and \> respectively match the empty string at the beginning and end of  a  word"?
[21:35] <matt> it just simply wont burn cd's
[21:35] <deany> matt,  k3b
[21:35] <sebsebseb> _Brun0_: for real performance gains maybe you should look into PuppyLinux and Damn Small Linux, ideal for older hardware with hardly any RAM.   Xubuntu is  also recommended for hardly any RAM
[21:35] <iamstupid> very wet behind the ears woman (yes woman) needs help updating her system...
[21:35] <matt> that is a burning app correct?
[21:35] <iamstupid> can anyone help me please????
[21:35] <deany> brasero is just too immature for me
[21:35] <matt> for what its worth, the same thing happens in gnomebaker
[21:35] <matt> except instead of freezing, it simply crashes and goes away
[21:35] <kon> iamstupid: but , your nick makes me not want to
[21:35] <kon> :) jk m8
[21:35] <BuzZz> kon  can u give me some  support ?
[21:35] <kon> whats the prob ?
[21:35] <rickest> _Brun0_: in my experience XFCE4 is much, much faster than either KDE or Gnome, yes
[21:36] <_Brun0_> matt, interesting... try this: orth,
[21:36] <iamstupid> erm... well i can't you there kon
[21:36] <sebsebseb> iamstupid: the thing about the ears, makes me wonder what you meant exactly, and your knick is also a bit of a put off from help
[21:36] <rickest> Xubuntu = XFCE
[21:36] <Dreaded> iamstupid: your nick is a bit self deprecating, no?
[21:36] <_Brun0_> rickest, ty alot. i'll test it.
[21:36] <zilleplus> anny guy's know if this is a good book for beginners http://www.comcol.nl/detail/66055.htm
[21:36] <kon> lol
[21:36] <_Brun0_> matt, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/249592
[21:36] <wamty> can sonome help me with this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448 I am using the VNC4server variant as this is a remote installation. I get a grey screen with Xvnc and with vnc4server it looks like I can't connect at all and the processs doesn't even seem to start
[21:36]  * kon supports BuzZz
[21:36] <Dreaded> kon: do you watch Bleach?
[21:36] <rickest> _Brun0_: Nowadays when I get a new computer, I simply install ubuntu-server, then xfce4.  screams
[21:36] <iamstupid> well i'm feeling frustrated and feel incredibly silly even though i know i have some intelligence
[21:36] <matt> Bruno, may i pm you, too much going on?
[21:36] <kon> Dreaded: yes. lol.
[21:36]  * Dreaded dies laughing
[21:36] <kon> hehe
[21:37] <rickest> on even older machines, IceWM is even smaller/faster (but simpler) than XFCE
[21:37] <Dreaded> i love Kon tho
[21:37] <mroc> how do i change the default appearance for the "guest account"?
[21:37] <BuzZz> thnks  kon  i want  to know  if  ubuntu  LIVE CD  have  can write on ntfs  partition
[21:37] <_Brun0_> rickest, does it have any gui?
[21:37] <sebsebseb> iamstupid: maybe do a  /knick newnamegoeshere   then  people will want to help you more maybe
[21:37] <deany> matt,  just use k3b and be done with it
[21:37] <Dreaded> iamstupid: well, I'm sure you aren't stupid
[21:37] <PROMO> Hi,   how can I find the version of    libpcap   on Ubuntu 8.04.2 ?
[21:37] <sebsebseb> Dreaded: I think the whole thing of him calling himself, stupid is for attention
[21:37] <iamstupid> listen please just stop commenting on my name!!
[21:37] <BuzZz> only i need  erase a couple of  file's from  instalacion of ms
[21:37] <Dreaded> iamstupid: what do you need help with, specifically? I'm at work, can't help for long, but I'll give it a try
[21:37] <wamty> Anyone???
[21:37] <matt> deany: the thing is is that it does a similar crash in gnomebaker, but ill try k3b
[21:37] <rickest> _Brun0_: yes, IceWM is basic but is basically laid out similar to Windows.  With XFCE4, I disabled panel and run avant-window-navigator with compiz.  it's closer to mac than win
[21:38] <wamty> can sonome help me with this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448 I am using the VNC4server variant as this is a remote installation. I get a grey screen with Xvnc and with vnc4server it looks like I can't connect at all and the processs doesn't even seem to start
[21:38] <kon> iamstupid: i've yet to see your question
[21:38] <iamstupid> thanks dreaded : i haven't updated my ubuntu for ages so still on 7.04
[21:38] <deany> i had probs with brasero too, so i went back to k3b which never failed
[21:38] <rickest> _Brun0_: I think XFCE is the best compromise between small footprint but still completely usable as a full-time GUI if that's your preference
[21:38] <matt> alright, I'll install it and get back to you guys
[21:38] <matt> thank you :)
[21:38] <mroc> how do i change the default appearance for the "guest account"?
[21:38] <sebsebseb> iamstupid: you have to upgrade to 7.10 first, and then  you can upgrade to 8.04
[21:38] <iamstupid> but can't upgrade - i seem to have solved the problem with my sources list
[21:39] <iamstupid> yeah that 's what i'm trying to do sebsebseb
[21:39] <wamty> can anyone plz help mee?
[21:39] <Dreaded> iamstupid: try running 'sudo update-manager -d'
[21:39] <sebsebseb> iamstupid: 8.04 being the current latest stable. and if your not going to upgrade release by release, you shoud probably stay with LTS's
[21:39] <sebsebseb> !upgrade |  iamstupid
[21:39] <iamstupid> ubottu: been there done that
[21:39] <kon> BuzZz: it makes its own file system. you cannot install on a ntfs m8.
[21:40] <sebsebseb> wamty: with?
[21:40] <wamty> can sonome help me with this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448 I am using the VNC4server variant as this is a remote installation. I get a grey screen with Xvnc and with vnc4server it looks like I can't connect at all and the processs doesn't even seem to start
[21:40] <kon> sorry for the delay, im eating some fruit :)
[21:40] <rickest> wamty: from your description it sounds like you haven't started a window manager in ~/.vnc/xstartup
[21:40] <iamstupid> does anyone pls have time to discuss fully through a pm please??
[21:40] <_Brun0_> rickest, IceWM rocks i've used it some years ago! Does it messes my system to have xfce or IceWM with gnome?
[21:40] <|ntegra|> <it's my first time using lilo> I can't edit lilo by lilo.conf.goblinx or #lilo -v -v ,, so how else might I conficker my lilo proper??
[21:40] <sebsebseb> wamty: make sure VNC is done over SSH, if your doing it  using  the net, or you won't be secure
[21:40] <rickest> _Brun0_: not at all
[21:40] <Freeaqingme> I'm getting no sound when playing any kind of media file (with sound(track) enabled) when I use VLC, all other players work fine. Any clue what that could be?
[21:40] <rickest> wamty: I use TightVNC, however, so there may be differences in how yours is configured compared to mine
[21:41] <|ntegra|> I like grub so much better >familiarity
[21:41] <_Brun0_> rickest, I might dump xfce to use IceWM now that you remembered me about it. 2 extremes lol.
[21:41] <kon> wamty: do you have a amd64 cpu ?
[21:41] <BuzZz> kon  i dont want  install ubuntu  over NTFS the only  thing i need  is  erase 2 files...  that's all, its  possible  do that from live cd ?
[21:41] <sebsebseb> Freeaqingme: have you got all the codecs installed?
[21:41] <kon> BuzZz: yes its possible m8 :)
[21:41] <sebsebseb> !sound | Freeaqingme
[21:41] <rickest> _Brun0_: yeah, IceWM is another magnitude smaaller than XFCE  :).  I do like compiz, however, and you cannot replaced Ice's WM so that's why I stuck with XFCE
[21:41] <xjam> I cant install Ubuntu 8.10
[21:42] <|ntegra|> k.bye
[21:42] <elias> what is the gid of admin group?
[21:42] <kon> BuzZz: The live cd will display any and every hdd in your systems ide or sata
[21:42] <rickest> _Brun0_: later, you can even get rid of Gnome with: apt-get purge gnome-desktop
[21:42] <sebsebseb> xjam: why not? how have you tried to install it?
[21:42] <xjam> Probably disc error?
[21:42] <BuzZz> Kon:  a last question, what is   "m8" sorry my english sucks
[21:42] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  xjam
[21:42] <kon> xjam: did you do a disck check first ?
[21:42] <_Brun0_> BuzZz, should be possible. Google for: ubuntu mount ntfs. You need to mount it.
[21:42] <QaDeS> hiays. how come i got a 1-2 seconds midi latency when using alsa/jack?
[21:42] <kon> xjam: to see if the cd is intact
[21:42] <BuzZz> thnks _Brun0_   :)
[21:42] <xjam> yes I did. I've checked disc first.
[21:42] <BuzZz> i will try it..!
[21:43] <sebsebseb> xjam: can you boot from the CD at all
[21:43] <sebsebseb> ?
[21:43] <rickest> _Brun0_: I'm not necessarily recommending that, just that most folks don't realize ALL the *buntus are the same thing except for what they install by default, and that CAN be changed later w/o having to switch *buntu
[21:43] <kon> -_-
[21:43] <xjam> yes I can.
[21:43] <kon> we*
[21:43] <kon> ;)
[21:43] <sebsebseb> xjam: why can't you install then?  you can boot up a live session on the cd? or the installer?
[21:43] <xjam> I'm in live session now.
[21:43] <kon> ok im out of here before i get 1,000 pm's for help.
[21:43] <sebsebseb> xjam: you meant, you don't know how to install?
[21:43] <kon> peace :)
[21:43] <xjam> I know how to install but I get error message
[21:44] <sebsebseb> xjam: what's the error message
[21:44] <_Brun0_> rickest, yea they are all the same lion with different clothes =P
[21:44] <reid_> hihi
[21:44] <xjam> hm, the system is telling me that CD or disc might have some errors and then quits froom installing.
[21:44] <sebsebseb> reid_: !hi |  reid
[21:44] <sebsebseb> !hi | reid
[21:45] <rickest> _Brun0_: yep.  the various *buntu packages are ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop (XFCE), etc.  Or as I said earlier, you can just install ubuntu-server and then only install the exact packages you want.  less cruft
[21:45] <xjam> Hey you're very quick with answers...
[21:45] <lukavia> Picassotamus: lshw gives a long list and no sound devices
[21:45] <sebsebseb> xjam: ok you md5sumed the ISO before burning to CD?
[21:45] <iamstupid> hi everyone - am having issues updating ubuntu because i've left it so long. I managed to sort out the fact that it couldn't download all repository indexes by changing my sources list. I have now done this and when I try to upgrade, I get an error message saying "No valid mirror found" - please can anyone help me?
[21:45] <sebsebseb> xjam: me?
[21:45] <xjam> No, I guess I have to.
[21:45] <reid_> so if I want to install just the KDE environment I can do kubuntu-server and not get all the worthless crap?
[21:45] <xjam> Yes you too.
[21:45] <sebsebseb> xjam: ok it's in Windows on there?
[21:45] <sebsebseb> xjam: the ISO
[21:45] <blip> why doesnt ubuntu boot instantly?
[21:46] <xjam> Yes on my laptop with Win XP.
[21:46] <howell__> hello
[21:46] <sebsebseb> blip: why dosan't Windows boot instantly?  why dosan't Mac OS X boot instantly?  they don't boot instantly for exactly the same reason
[21:46] <blip> like 5 sec from pusing power and be inside Ubuntu, that'd be neat
[21:46] <xjam> I've created CD/RW with it.
[21:46] <mroc> how do i change the default appearance for the "guest account"?
[21:46] <elias> please somebody, simple task: sudo getent group admin   .... I need the gid, have 2 admin groups on my system
[21:46]  * howell__ thinks reid_ is dumb :p
[21:46] <elias> need to know which one to scrap
[21:46] <blip> yes but what needs to be improved?
[21:46]  * reid_ KNOWS howell__ is dumb at life
[21:46] <sebsebseb> blip: PC's  haven't been designed for instant on stuff,  but  in newer comes there is  instant on  basic Linux installs on the  chips.   well they take like 30 seconds to boot up or whatever
[21:46] <Picassotamus> lukavia: well... it doesn't make sense that ubuntu wouldn't detect your sound card... and yet that seems to be the case, which explains why ALSA can't find it... when was the last time you booted up to windows and had sound work?
[21:47] <sebsebseb> blip: in newer computers above
[21:47] <iamstupid> hi everyone - am having issues updating ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 and beyond (!) because i've left it so long. I managed to sort out the fact that it couldn't download all repository indexes by changing my sources list. I have now done this and when I try to upgrade, I get an error message saying "No valid mirror found" - please can anyone help me?
[21:47] <iamstupid> ps i really am not stupid
[21:47] <iamstupid> not always
[21:47] <howell__> anyone get a2dp working with motorola s9-HD headphones?
[21:47] <lukavia> Picassotamus: about an hour ago
[21:47] <_Brun0_> rickest, ty alot for your tip on the ubuntu server. i'll do that next time: ubuntu server + http://www.masclat.com/cimasclat/Icewm.html
[21:47] <sebsebseb> blip: find out about Linux instant on
[21:47] <sebsebseb> blip: on newer computers
[21:47] <mroc> how do i change the default appearance for the "guest account"?  changes made to the appearance within the guest account don't seem to stick between guest sessions.
[21:48] <howell__> i can't get my pulseaudio sink to work with it
[21:48] <kl87> hey all i need soem help everytime i install my graphics drivers i am unable to get 1024x728 resolution????? what can i do?
[21:48] <iamstupid> hi everyone - am having issues updating ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 and beyond (!) because i've left it so long. I managed to sort out the fact that it couldn't download all repository indexes by changing my sources list. I have now done this and when I try to upgrade, I get an error message saying "No valid mirror found" - please can anyone help me?
[21:48] <Picassotamus> lukavia: There is a gui app to look at all your hardware, might make it easier then looking at output from lshw.... in add/remove programs try searching for "hardware"... i think its called Device Manager or something
[21:48] <rickest> _Brun0_: you don't even have to do it as manual as that web page.  just install ubuntu-server, then 'apt-get install icewm'.  voila
[21:49] <elitecoder> I'm setting up openvpn, and I'm editing the server.conf file. It says: key server.key  # This file should be kept secret
[21:49] <BuzZz> thnks  all for your help...
[21:49] <BuzZz> ciao
[21:49] <elitecoder> but where am I suppose to put it to keep it "secret"?
[21:50] <iamstupid> hi there all you lovely lovely people
[21:50] <elitecoder> I suppose I could make the permissions +r for only the user that needs it...
[21:50] <elitecoder> i guess i'll do that
[21:50] <iamstupid> i realise flattery may get me nowhere
[21:50] <ikus060> Does anyone have experience with xkb ? I need some help to modify an existing layout
[21:50] <iamstupid> but please can someone spare a few mins to help a girl in need?
[21:50] <zaius> i'm trying to install php5-gd package without all the x11 dependencies. I think i need to link it against the libgd2-noxpm instead of the regular libgd2. Is there a way i can redifine the dependencies of a package?
[21:51] <Ienorand> iamstupid: tried changing to main mirror, are you connected to the internet?
[21:51] <Picassotamus> iamstupid: Did you read the links from !upgrade?
[21:51] <iamstupid> i am connected
[21:51] <mroc> how do i change the default appearance for the "guest account"?  changes made to the appearance within the guest account don't seem to stick between guest sessions.
[21:51] <iamstupid> Picassotamus: ?
[21:52] <Picassotamus> !upgrade | iamstupid
[21:52] <ChotaZ> What is the reinstall option for apt-get?
[21:52] <Geoffrey2> ok, one last shot at this...anyone have any suggestions on why audio would be working on some flash movies I try to view, but not others?  in particular, I am getting no audio from anything on Youtube...this all started just a day or so ago...before then I had no problems at all\
[21:53] <Duckthis> ChotaZ: You can uninstall and purge a package then reinstall it.
[21:53] <Geoffrey2> I'm using Ubuntu Intrepid, and Firefox 3.0.8
[21:53] <ChotaZ> duckthis what are the comands and options to use?
[21:53] <ChotaZ> apt-get uninstall and apt-get purge?
[21:53] <SuperG1134> Ello
[21:53] <Duckthis> ChotaZ: Like "sudo apt-get remove «appname» purge" then "sudo apt-get install «appname"
[21:53] <spaceBARbarian> i just ran updates and for some reason all my graphics driver was deactivated and compiz settings got reverted to default, anyone know how to fix this ?
[21:53] <Duckthis> ChotaZ: Like "sudo apt-get remove «appname» purge" then "sudo apt-get install «appname"
[21:54] <elias> I am in the admin group, but the unlock button is not active in user-admin
[21:54] <Duckthis> What's your appname ChotaZ?
[21:55] <kplus> does anyone know if it is possible to stream audio using xvncviewer?
[21:55] <iamstupid> that doesn't really mean anything to me Picassotamus
[21:55] <iamstupid> sorry
[21:55] <safetynet> Is there a way to setup a shortcut on my desktop to one of my folders in "Places" ? ?
[21:55] <bove> what is a "world writable directory"?
[21:55] <spaceBARbarian> i just ran updates and for some reason all my graphics driver was deactivated and compiz settings got reverted to default, anyone know how to fix this ?
[21:55] <lukavia> Picassotamus: in BIOS i disabled "boot from network card" so i will reboot, undo those changes and come back, maybe there is mismatch with the bridges of integrated hardware or something
[21:56] <Slart> safetynet: can't you create a shortcut to "nautilus /path/to/the/folder"
[21:56] <MTecknology> !info drupal6 jaunty
[21:56] <mroc> safetynet: you can just right click on the folder name and choose "make link"   then drag the link to the desktop.
[21:56] <Picassotamus> iamstupid: Doesn't mean anything to you? /sigh What problem are you having specfically? Is upgrading to 8.04 not an option from Update Manager?
[21:56] <safetynet> Slart, Not sure how to do that - newb here.
[21:56] <Slart> safetynet: oh.. or you want to add a folder in the "places" menu... no, I don't think you can do that
[21:56] <cjae> ok my friend cant connect to his ISP but cant connect to other ISP's isn't this to do with something with the MAC address no being spoffed or something, I have never run into the situation so I am not sure about it, but I remember it from various router setups
[21:56] <ChotaZ> Duckthis: How can I check the currentversion of an app?
[21:57] <cjae> but cant*
[21:57] <cjae> opps
[21:57] <safetynet> mroc, That works for me - Thanks much!
[21:57] <cjae> but can*
[21:57] <mroc> safetynet: no problem.
[21:57] <Ingsoc> Can anyone help with a error I get when I attempt to update? "Reading package lists... Done
[21:57] <Ingsoc> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[21:57] <Ingsoc> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems"
[21:57] <FloodBot1> Ingsoc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <steffen> hey, im looking for a software to extract my .rar files,, anybody know one?
[21:57] <Slart> !rar | steffen
[21:57] <Duckthis> ChotaZ: do you want to change channel to do not disturb other peoples? Follow me in #duckthis
[21:57] <cjae> !mac
[21:57] <wamty> no i have started a window manager
[21:58] <howell_> hey, can i change the resolution of a terminal session?
[21:58] <wamty> my innitial question was: can sonome help me with this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448 I am using the VNC4server variant as this is a remote installation. I get a grey screen with Xvnc and with vnc4server it looks like I can't connect at all and the processs doesn't even seem to start
 what processes
[21:58] <wamty> can anyone suggest?
[21:58] <wamty>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/146480/plain/
[21:58] <Fezia> I try to reinstall GRUB on an empty hard drive formatted using xt2, but when I use Ubuntu 8.10 LiveCD to get inteo grub and fins /boot/grub/stage1, then grub can't find the file. What is the problem?
[21:58] <wamty> thats ts a copy of my xstartup
[21:58] <mroc> how do i change the default appearance for the "guest account"?  changes made to the appearance within the guest account don't seem to stick between guest sessions.
[21:59] <jollyroger> hey guys
[21:59] <kl87> i need something like screen and graphics that used to be in hardy so i can force ubuntu to detect my monitor and get the correct resolution how wwould i go about doing this?? im running jaunty
[21:59] <safetynet> mroc, I was trying to do this from the wrong place - Once I went to Home folder and did it from there I was able to do it ....
[21:59] <Fezia> I try to reinstall GRU, bur grub can't find boot/grub/stage1 file.
[21:59] <spaceBARbarian> i just ran updates and for some reason all my graphics driver was deactivated and compiz settings got reverted to default, anyone know how to fix this ?
[21:59] <Fezia> *GRUB
[21:59] <iamstupid> Picassotamus: no because i need to update to 7.10 first
[21:59] <macman_> lol
[21:59] <macman_> sudo rm -rf / * works
[21:59] <WatchBot> !danger | macman_
[21:59] <Ingsoc> can anyone help with this error I get from apt? http://paste.ubuntu.com/146481/
[21:59]  * macman_ loves vitual box
[21:59] <steffen> hey how do you hightlight the one you are sending you message to ?
[21:59] <jollyroger> i am desperately trying to find a command line which takes a mp3-file as input and creates a wave-form file........any ideas on this issue?
[21:59] <QaDeS> anyone using midi on ubuntu? got major problems there
[22:00] <macman_> aw
[22:00] <Picassotamus> lukavia: That is a good idea
[22:00] <wamty> So?
[22:00] <iamstupid> i'm trying to sort it out from the software sources menu and that seems to get me a tiny bit further every time
[22:00] <wamty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/146483/plain/
[22:00] <iamstupid> but still having massive issues
[22:00] <wamty> HELP PLEASE http://paste.ubuntu.com/146483/plain/
[22:00] <cjones_> so on my top panel i used to have app's and settings and 2 icons for firefox and thunderbird but my settings is gone how do i fix this ?>
[22:00] <poseidon> how do I change premissions on a directory?
[22:00] <kplus> does anyone know if it is possible to listen to audio using xvncviewer?
[22:00] <Ingsoc> poseidon: chmod -R
[22:00] <wamty> thatsa copy of my xinetd script
[22:00] <hackeron> hey, I put an ftplugin in /root/.vim/ftplugin but it's not being auto loaded? - do I need to do something special to load it?
[22:01] <xjam> sebsebseb: I've md5sumed thes iso file - hashes are the same.
[22:01] <ChotaZ> How can I have the latest version of wine?
[22:01] <saing> http://crazytuga.mybrute.com  <-- BE A BRUTE AND CHALLENGE ME IN THIS FUNNY GAME :P
[22:01] <Picassotamus> iamstupid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion
[22:01] <wamty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/146483/plain/
[22:01] <wamty> thatsa copy of my xinetd script
[22:01] <rrowell> i've got a script I got from a vendor for cranking up tomcat instances, but I wan't the instances to start as the "tomcat" user... What do I add to the script to make the rest of the script run as "tomcat" rather then whoever ran it?
[22:01] <wamty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/146480/plain/
[22:01] <iGuelph> anyone know a good sftp gui ?
[22:01] <ChotaZ> saing, nés nada crazy xD
[22:01] <Slart> ChotaZ: check the wine main site.. they have repositories you can use
[22:01] <wamty> please have a look
[22:02] <Slart> !wine | ChotaZ
[22:02] <iamstupid> Picassotamus: is that seriously the only way?
[22:02] <Picassotamus> iamstupid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades <- how to get to 7.1 these are all from the links i sent you
[22:02] <eddie84> t
[22:02] <Slart> rrowell: sudo ? or su?
[22:02] <spaceBARbarian> i just ran updates in jaunty and when i rebooted i was pushed into "low  graphics" mode, when i restarted all my compiz and graphic driver settings were gone ( graphics driver disabled as well)
[22:02] <cjones_> so on my top panel i used to have app's and settings and 2 icons for firefox and thunderbird but my settings is gone how do i fix this ?>
[22:02] <rrowell> sudo /bin/su tomcat works but instead of running the script it just dumped me at a shell as the tomcat user...
[22:02] <sebsebseb> xjam: ok
[22:02] <goyishekop> I'm looking for help with a booting problem
[22:03] <iamstupid> Picassotamus: i've already tried everything on that instruction page
[22:03] <Ingsoc> can anyone help with this error I get from apt? http://paste.ubuntu.com/146481/
[22:03] <iamstupid> which is why i'm here!
[22:03] <sebsebseb> xjam: the CD itself may be dirty or scracthed or something
[22:03] <sebsebseb> xjam: you can burn a new one, and burn it slower at say  4x speed
[22:03] <xjam> So CD must be okay.
[22:03] <Slart> spaceBARbarian: and then you realised you should ask for help in the jaunty channel.. but you forgot to add +1 to the channel name.. quite understandable
[22:03] <sebsebseb> xjam: no the ISO is ok
[22:03] <xjam> Aha, good idea!!
[22:03] <sebsebseb> xjam: that does not mean the CD is ok
[22:03] <sebsebseb> xjam: wait
[22:03] <xjam> Yes the ISO is OK.
[22:03] <sebsebseb> xjam: you were going to put on 8.10?
[22:03] <Picassotamus> iamstupid: I can't help you further unless there is a error message... I mean if you followed the instuctions w/o errors than it worked, right?
[22:03] <spaceBARbarian> Slart: yeah i asked there first but no one seems to be replying :P
[22:03] <xjam> Yes.
[22:04] <sebsebseb> xjam: you can put 8.10 on, but 8.04 has  a few advantages over it
[22:04] <xjam> I'll be using linux-like system for the first time.
[22:04] <Slart> spaceBARbarian: well.. it is still the channel for jaunty questions.. =)
[22:04] <iamstupid> Picassotamus: yes there were error messages - no valid mirror
[22:04] <xjam> Yes?
[22:04] <sebsebseb> xjam: pm me
[22:04] <xjam> I have tried with 8.04 - the same error I've got.
[22:04] <wamty> can sonome help me with this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448 I am using the VNC4server variant as this is a remote installation. I get a grey screen with Xvnc and with vnc4server it looks like I can't connect at all and the processs doesn't even seem to start
[22:05] <sebsebseb> xjam: oh
[22:05] <wamty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/146480/plain/
[22:05] <saing> http://crazytuga.mybrute.com  <-- BE A BRUTE AND CHALLENGE ME IN THIS FUNNY GAME :P
[22:05] <wamty> i have started a window manager
[22:05] <Slart> saing: go away
[22:05] <wamty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/146483/plain/
[22:05] <sebsebseb> xjam: what is wrong with your computer hummm
[22:05] <wamty> thatsa copy of my xinetd script
[22:05] <sebsebseb> !install |  xjam
[22:05] <Slart> saing: go spam about your site somewhere else..
[22:05] <xjam> sebsebseb: Anyway thank you for your advices...
[22:05] <epaphus> hi guys, how do I specify that eth0 should pick up thorugh DHCP.. but i need to configure this through the command prompt
[22:06] <Slart> epaphus: try looking at the file.. /etc/interfaces or something like that
[22:06] <xjam> sebsebseb: Yes I wonder what's wrong with it.
[22:06] <Slart> epaphus: or perhaps /etc/network/interfaces..
[22:06] <mroc> am i asking a difficult question?  how do i change the default appearance for the "guest account" feature?  it's been ignored/lost several times now.  (not trying to be too impatient)
[22:06] <sebsebseb> xjam: well there are ways to install Ubuntut without a CD as well
[22:06] <Ienorand> epaphus: you could to it completely manually by sudo dhclient eth0
[22:06] <Slart> epaphus: I even think it has a man page.. "man interfaces"
[22:06] <xjam> sebsebseb: Aha.
[22:06] <Ingsoc> Can anyone help with this apt problem or am I in the wrong room? http://paste.ubuntu.com/146481/
[22:07] <wamty> ANYONE?
[22:07] <iamstupid> Picassotamus: thanks very much for all your help - i'm logging off but i'm going to keep trying. Am sure I'll be ok.
[22:07] <happyhessian> hello
[22:07] <happyhessian> i am so confused about java.
[22:07] <sebsebseb> happyhessian: hi
[22:07] <xjam> sebsebseb: Should I try to install from live session first before doing anything else?
[22:07] <sebsebseb> happyhessian: why?
[22:08] <Slart> wamty: just asking "anyone?" will only make people annoyed.. repeat the whole question every 20 minutes or so.. if someone knows they will probably answer
[22:08] <sebsebseb> xjam: oh you just done install on the CD?  yeah boot up the Live session and  then you can run the installer
[22:08] <Ienorand> wamty: Probably no one knows, try forums maybe?
[22:08] <mroc> Ingsoc: i'm pretty sure that's telling you that you don't have the key for the repository installed properly.
[22:08] <pinPoint> hey i was just reading the postfix document, Next edit /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf and add the following lines:
[22:08] <goyishekop> Ingsoc: Did you try the apt-get update?
[22:08] <happyhessian> well, i think i have the packages and plugins installed and it seems that a lot of java scripts work but a lot of things don't work
[22:08] <pinPoint> there is not such file on that location ^^^ what should I do?
[22:08] <xjam> sebsebseb: I am already in live session -
[22:08] <happyhessian> including sun's test http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[22:08] <Slart> wamty: it's also helpful to try and include the relevant info in the question.. version numbers etc are always good
[22:09] <sebsebseb> xjam: ok try the installer then
[22:09] <happyhessian> and some sites that are sort of critical for me to access
[22:09] <sebsebseb> happyhessian: have you installed Java?
[22:09] <xjam> sebsebseb: I'm typing this in XChat GNOME.
[22:09] <sebsebseb> xjam: run the insatller from the desktop then
[22:09] <xjam> sebsebseb: Okay then I'll try...
[22:09] <happyhessian> sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre, yes
[22:09] <Anj> Dudes, let's imagine that I hypothetically ran sudo passwd -l root after removing my account from the sudoers file, and that I have also rebooted since then.  In this hypothetical scenario in which i am a complete tool, how would I get root access back?
[22:10] <happyhessian> which packages should i have installed?
[22:10] <Ingsoc> goyishekop: Yes, that is whenI get the error. mroc: Ok, so what do I do?
[22:10] <goyishekop> I can boot 2.6.24 but not 2.6.27 on my laptop -- it complains that it can't find the root filesystem, tosses me into Busybox
[22:10] <onthefence928> there's no reason that Kdevelop won't work on my ubuntu 8.10 with gnome right?
[22:10] <Slart> happyhessian: that site seems to work for me.. with the little moving java guy
[22:10] <sebsebseb> onthefence928: you can run KDE apps in Gnome
[22:10] <Slart> onthefence928: KDE programs usually work in gnome too
[22:10] <onthefence928> k awesome
[22:10] <onthefence928> cuz eclipse pisses me off
[22:10] <happyhessian> Slart: i just see the little white cow in the big white snowstorm :-(
[22:10] <Fezia> If I download and install ms-sys on a usb flash drive containing Ubuntu 8.10 LiveCd that I boot from. Does the installed files be there if I boot the usb on anothe rcomputer?
[22:10] <freeatlast> Hi - I get the following error when I do updates < http://imagebin.org/44698 > When I right click on a windows app to install It does not give option to install with Wine like it used to - What best way to fix ? ?
[22:11] <mroc> Ingsoc: have you read this page?  https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[22:11] <Slart> happyhessian: you have installed java?
[22:11] <xjam> sebsebseb: Hm, "Installing without a CD drive over a network." sounds interesting.
[22:11] <Slart> !java | happyhessian
[22:11] <happyhessian> i feel like i'm missing something here--are those the packages that i need?
[22:11] <happyhessian> i have that installed
[22:11] <sebsebseb> xjam: yep that's one way,  a tiny bit more advanced than installing form a USB I think though
[22:11] <sebsebseb> xjam: ,but I haven't done either
[22:11] <xjam> sebsebseb: :-)
[22:11] <happyhessian> i'll read the guide meanwhile
[22:12] <Slart> happyhessian: hmm.. not really sure what else could be wrong..sorry
[22:12] <hans-rudolf> sudo apt-get install circuslinux
[22:12] <sebsebseb> xjam: a guy did give me a descripton on how to do the network boot a while ago though
[22:12] <Ingsoc> mroc: Thank you but that does not help
[22:12] <mroc> Ingsoc: which part of that did you get stuck on?
[22:12] <demmon> !geubuntu
[22:12] <samurai> hi
[22:12] <Picassotamus> lukavia: u there? :)
[22:12] <xjam> sebsebseb: Hm, but you need floppy - I do not have it :-)
[22:13] <sebsebseb> xjam: no you don't for the network boot.  you just need two computers
[22:13] <demmon> what is a Geubuntu
[22:13] <Mene-Mene> I've been running Ubuntu for several months now, and recently got an upgrade PC. 9.02 installed fine, but it failed to recognize my wired connection. It saw it as a pan0. I tried to install some drivers for my motherboard in case it would work, but it failed to install due to a lack of a, "config.h"
[22:13] <Ingsoc> mroc: see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1047353.html                 But I can't figure out which repo is giving me problems
[22:13] <sebsebseb> xjam: one computer sends the kernel or wahtever, and  then yeah
[22:13] <xjam> sebsebseb: Can one have Win XP?
[22:13] <Slart> demmon: http://opengeuwiki-en.intilinux.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[22:13] <samurai> wat do u think about linux?
[22:13] <samurai> am new , please
[22:14] <sebsebseb> xjam: not sure I think so,  I can't quite remember, it's quite a procedure to do the network boot
[22:14] <freeatlast> How do I tell which version ubuntu I'm running?
[22:14] <xjam> sebsebseb: Then I guess it's not for me linux rukie.
[22:14] <sebsebseb> xjam: for trying Ubuntu for a first time well,  another option is to run it inside XP in a virtual machine, as long as your computer has enough RAM
[22:14] <Slart> samurai: in here you'll probably mostly find people who think it's great.. but ask in #ubuntu-offtopic for other oppinions
[22:14] <sebsebseb> !release |  freeatlast
[22:15] <xjam> sebsebseb: Life session is all right for me for now.
[22:15] <sebsebseb> !version | freeatlast
[22:15] <Slart> freeatlast: run "lsb_release -a" in a terminal
[22:15] <xjam> sebsebseb: *live
[22:15] <Slart> bah
[22:15] <demmon> Slart: whats the min cpu for it
[22:15] <sebsebseb> xjam: ok, but you can't install loads of stuff on there, without losing it one  the CD is no longer running
[22:15] <stanza_> hi guys
[22:15] <sebsebseb> xjam: and I don't normally recommend it for various reasons, but Wubi
[22:15] <sebsebseb> !wubi > xjam
[22:15] <freeatlast> sebsebseb, thanks
[22:16] <stanza_> i have a problem in configuring/using mysql with apache and php
[22:16] <freeatlast> Slart, thank you!
[22:16] <svb> i got my sound card to work finally
[22:16] <Slart> demmon: no idea.. never tried it
[22:16] <sebsebseb> svb: there you are :d
[22:16] <stanza_> i have a fresh installation of ubuntu and i am quite a newbie
[22:16] <sebsebseb> svb: how you do that?
[22:16] <xjam> sebsebseb: Yes you're right. I can use memeory key.
[22:16] <svb> just had to disable the mobo soundcard in the bios
[22:16] <sebsebseb> svb: oh right ok cool
[22:16] <mrbull> anyone knows how to find out your keyboard layout on X (without gnome, i'm on xmonad)
[22:16] <svb> simple
[22:16] <Mene-Mene> Completely fresh installation, I wiped everything else.
[22:16] <svb> i didnt have to add any code or nothing
[22:16] <sebsebseb> svb: maybe that's what other people have to do to, that get sound issues
[22:16] <stanza_> the issue is that the php script connects as usual to the database, but any query returns an empty resultset
[22:16] <sebsebseb> svb: some of them anyway
[22:17] <svb> yeah
[22:17] <svb> i was ready to throw this computer out the window yesterday
[22:17] <sebsebseb> svb: lol
[22:17] <happyhessian> Slart: I get this when i try and follow the guide http://pastebin.com/m54a61741.  Is that normal?
[22:17] <exco> how do I copy everything inside a dir to another dir in terminal?
[22:18] <sebsebseb> svb: ok Pidgin then,  or pm on here, and i'll tell you about good stuff to install
[22:18] <Slart> happyhessian: eh.. no... it's never done that for me
[22:18] <Slart> happyhessian: are you really really sure you've installed suns java runtime?
[22:18] <sebsebseb> [22:18] <sebsebseb> svb: ok Pidgin then,  or pm on here, and i'll tell you about good stuff to install
[22:19] <happyhessian> yes but it seems i have openjdk alongside it, which may mess things up
[22:19] <Slart> happyhessian: hmm.. if I were in your situation I would uninstall all the java packages and start over.. installing according to the guide and so on
[22:19] <mroc> Ingsoc: to try and figure it out, have you compared the listed third party sources with the listed keys under the authentication tab in the software sources?
[22:20] <matisse> hi
[22:20] <happyhessian> http://pastebin.com/m1a271608
[22:20] <matisse> I've got an puzzling problem: I have okular (package okular-kde4 and more) installed, but I can't start it, because there seems to be no executable with such name. (I'm running Kde3) Anyone got an idea?
[22:20] <lastent> Hi i have a problem I installed ubuntu with the usb headset plugged, I plugged them out, when I plugged them in again the sound still outs by the integrated speakers, for some applications it outs for the headset, totem by the headsets and rhythmbox by the integrated speakers, what can I do?
[22:20] <happyhessian> Slart: right, i'll give it a shot
[22:20] <Ingsoc> mroc: I found the answer.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/146494/
[22:20] <demmon> !geu
[22:20] <Picassotamus> matisse: you can use apt-get to answer that, see !apt-get and read the page linked
[22:20] <mgolisch> matisse: look at the packages files? using dpkg -L packagename
[22:20] <xjam> sebsebseb: What shoul I choose in partitioner? Guided resize or entire disc?
[22:20] <mroc> Ingsoc: did that solve your problem?
[22:21] <Ingsoc> i think so. Thanks for the help
[22:21] <sebsebseb> xjam: normalley I would  get people set up with a seperate home
[22:21] <mroc> Ingsoc: great.  no problem.
[22:21] <sebsebseb> xjam: ,but  apparnatly  those aren't needed as much anymore
[22:21] <sebsebseb> xjam: guided will be ok
[22:21] <mroc> how do i change the default appearance for the "guest account"?  changes made to the appearance within the guest account don't seem to stick between guest sessions.
[22:21] <ruben23> hi
[22:22] <sebsebseb> xjam: and no point setting up some  fancyish partition set up, and then find you can't install
[22:22] <xjam> sebsebseb: Guided resize or guided use entire disc?
[22:22] <sebsebseb> xjam: guided  use entire disk will get rid of Windows
[22:22] <ruben23> i get un supported input when login in with ubuntu intrepid...my card is nvidia..
[22:22] <xjam> I have just one disc installed on PC.
[22:22] <sebsebseb> xjam: so I guess you want guided resize
[22:22] <xjam> No Windows for now.
[22:23] <RedMushroom> does anyone know how to fix "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode"?
[22:23] <sebsebseb> xjam: hummmm maybe  we should set you up with a partiiton set up
[22:23] <ajr> I needed to reformat the partition where I had grub installed, how do I reinstall grub
[22:23] <ajr> , and make sure it knows where to boot from
[22:23] <sebsebseb> xjam: your not going to dual boot?  it's going Ubuntu only?
[22:23] <xjam> sebsebseb: Yes for shure.
[22:24] <RedMushroom> i can't get it to go away >:-(
[22:24] <ruben23> hi...
[22:24] <ruben23> have ideas on it..?
[22:24] <RedMushroom> it keeps saying it needs to reconfigure my graphics settings and rebooting linux
[22:24] <sebsebseb> xjam: a little pointless putting 8.10 on now, except as a tempory  install, because 9.04  is released on April 23rd,  and  has Ext4 as an option for the file system.  and the default Ext3  upgrades are only partial Ext4 suppourt
[22:24] <matisse> mgolisch, Picassotamus:  found the reason: the directory you mentioned is not in the PATH... thx for the hints!
[22:25] <RedMushroom> i've even tried reformating and reinstalling but it won't go away >:-(
[22:25] <sebsebseb> xjam: I mean Ext3 can only get partial suppourt
[22:25] <Slart> is ext4 recommended now? has everyone agreed that it's not as bad as the reports said?
[22:26] <sebsebseb> Slart: by the sounds of it most of the Ext4 issues are fixed or pretty much fixed
[22:26] <demmon> !e
[22:26] <sebsebseb> Slart: however Ext3 will remian the default for 9.04
[22:26] <botux1> im trying to find out is there a way to find out what your ips a sucha re similar to ipconfig in windows
[22:26] <deany> "pretty much" isnt good when talkin filesystems
[22:26] <Slart> sebsebseb: sounds nice.. I've got to go read up on it then.. see what new stuff there is to play with
[22:26] <_Brun0_> Wow IceWM is that MUCH faster! Lol. Ridiculously faster. In trade for super simplicity =(
[22:27] <RedMushroom> does anyone know why i'm being told that linux couldn't detect the graphics card settings on startup?
[22:27] <sebsebseb> deany: indeed,  but it's  good enough for usage I think once 9.04 is out
[22:27] <mroc> botux1: ifconfig command?  is that what you're looking for?
[22:27] <yowshi> how do i install a i386 .deb onto an amd_64 arch?
[22:27] <botux1> mroc: yes thank you
[22:27] <sebsebseb> xjam: ok  yeah use guided, or I can tell you how to set up with a seperate home
[22:27] <botux1> ifconfig
[22:27] <botux1> oops lol
[22:28] <mroc> botux1: or right click on NetworkManager and choose connection information if you want it graphically
[22:28] <sebsebseb> !home |  xjam
[22:28] <ajr> Can anyone let me know how to reinstall just grub, and to make sure that the right partiion is marked for boot
[22:28] <RedMushroom> does anyone know why i'd be having touble with the display configuration, and how to fix it?
[22:28] <Slart> yowshi: first you think twice if you really have to..
[22:28] <sebsebseb> !grub |  ajr
[22:28] <ajr> thanks
[22:28] <ajr> but not after reinstalling windows
[22:29] <ajr> ubuntu only boot
[22:29] <botux1> mrco: cool thnaks
[22:29] <sebsebseb> ajr: yes, but one of those links will still be valid
[22:29] <Slart> yowshi: when you've done that you use dkpg.. there are options to force install regardless of architecture
[22:29] <mroc> botux1: welcome.
[22:29] <sebsebseb> ajr: and  when you install Ubuntu,  it should take care of Grub automatically
[22:29] <deany> How can i install games from debs or repo`s  to my home or somewhere else other than the / partition.....
[22:29] <sebsebseb> deany: you woudn't normalely
[22:29] <yowshi> Slart: thanks i managed to find an amd64 arch for the file i wanted
[22:29] <RedMushroom> does anyone know why reformating and reinstalling wouldn't fix an issue w/ the graphics configuration?
[22:29] <Slart> yowshi: much better =)
[22:29] <mint3> !jaunty
[22:29] <deany> sebastien, i dont wanna allocate a ton of space for / for it
[22:30] <ajr> yah it did
[22:30] <deany> i want the option.
[22:30] <Slart> deany: install it, then move it somewhere else and create a symlink?
[22:30] <ajr> what happend was i had a dual install
[22:30] <sebsebseb> deany: you only need a pretty small /
[22:30] <sebsebseb> deany: Linux programs and such go on /
[22:30] <mroc> RedMushroom: that makes it sound like something isn't being correctly detected, or isn't supported.
[22:30] <sebsebseb> deany:  /home for data
[22:30] <yowshi> Slart: i hate doing that myself but sometimes you just cant find the programme you want on the arch you have
[22:30] <ajr> i just ate my windows partition to give to linux, but i think the windows partition was where grub was
[22:30] <deany> some pretty big games out there...
[22:30] <sebsebseb> deany:  what type of games?  Linux games or not?
[22:30] <deany> I dont want em on /
[22:30] <sebsebseb> deany: Wine  puts it's stuff in home by default
[22:31] <deany> linux games
[22:31] <RedMushroom> mroc: yeah, but wouldn't reformating/reinstalling fix it if it's not detecting correctly?
[22:31] <sebsebseb> deany: and Linux programs hardly take up any space
[22:31] <Slart> yowshi: yup.. we just don't want to recommend people do it without really checking if it's available for the right architecture first
[22:31] <mroc> RedMushroom: probably not...if it didn't get detected properly the first time, why would it be different the second time?
[22:31] <Slart> sebsebseb: huh? what games are you playing?
[22:31] <deany> I havent allocated much more than i need for /, programs no, they dont take much.. games however, do
[22:31] <RedMushroom> mroc: because i'm probably doing it wrong :)
[22:32] <Slart> Quake Wars certainly used up a lot of space..
[22:32] <Lint01> what can I do to make Ubuntu more slim?
[22:32] <mroc> RedMushroom: what graphics card do you have?
[22:32] <deany> quake based games, etc
[22:32] <RedMushroom> mroc: generic integrated card on the system board
[22:32] <goyishekop> I'm having trouble booting my laptop under Intrepid Ibex.  Anyone able to help?
[22:32] <deany> I want the option to install them where i want..
[22:32] <gregge> Is there a quick combo to the system monitor, such as ctrl-alt del in win?
[22:32] <Slart> deany: doesn't most games offer you that choice when installing?
[22:32] <deany> not debs or repo ones
[22:33] <deany> only one i play that does is UT2k4
[22:33] <Slart> deany: ahh.. true
[22:33] <Nytrix> when i install ubuntu will i have the option to have /boot and bootloader on my usb key or do i have to do this manually?
[22:33] <mint3> goyishekop,  - whats the problem ?
[22:33] <deany> bit of a failing really
[22:33] <Slart> Lint01: I think it's pretty much the same as for any operating system.. identify stuff you don't need and uninstall them
[22:33] <eitreach> Where are the 700mb-images of Jaunty?
[22:33] <uhf7647> .join #ssh
[22:33] <Lint01> it has almost no software installed, but it takes 5,3 GB
[22:33] <Slart> !jaunty | eitreach
[22:33] <sebsebseb> Slart: put like 16GB for / and I expect you will be fine
[22:33] <kamyk> #ubuntu-pl
[22:33] <deany> when thinkin about partitions, i never put games in the equation, for /
[22:34] <sebsebseb> Slart: how about 20GB instead if your still not sure
[22:34] <philipp> how do i make a network called eth1
[22:34] <freeatlast> Is the internet upgrade install from Hardy to Intrepid a fairly big update install ? ?
[22:34] <Goldfisch> Nytrix: I haven't seen that yet. So far, that has required manual configuration. However, I have been using the alternate install iso's, due to root+raid+lvm setups. Don't know about intrepid.
[22:34] <mroc> RedMushroom: ok.  run the command "lspci -nn" (without quotes) in a terminal.  read the output.  what does it list for graphics related items?
[22:34] <sebsebseb> Slart: oh let's have a seperate games partition heh,  Ubuntu is not Windows
[22:34] <deany> well, guess when i install jaunty i`ll rethink it.
[22:34] <botux1> mroc: i can see my windows shares on my linux pc is it easy to setup ability to see my linux shares on my vista box
[22:34] <philipp> how do i make a network called eth1
[22:35] <wuffi600> i can not hibernate anymore because there is this compcache swap using /dev/ramzswap0. How do i disable/remove this kind of swap? if i do a "swapoff /dev/ramzswap0" hibernation works but how do i remove this kind of swap for ever?
[22:35] <Goldfisch> philipp: eth1 isn't a network. It could be the name the kernel assigns to a network card in your system.
[22:35] <sebsebseb> botux1: yes, but you woudn't normalely want Windows to have access to the Linux partitions, after all,  you get a virus on Windows let's say, and it could delete Linux's stuff
[22:35] <philipp> goldfish and how do i set such a name?
[22:35] <botux1> sebsebseb: ahhh makes sense
[22:35] <deany> sebsebseb, huh?
[22:35] <botux1> but just in case i may need it wanted to know lol
[22:35] <Slart> sebsebseb: I actually have a 1TB disk where I put big stuff.. Google Earth, quake wars, quake 4 and such.. symlinks work great for that
[22:36] <sebsebseb> Slart: ok
[22:36] <sebsebseb> deany: what?
[22:36] <ajr> is there a way from terminal or gparted to move grub
[22:36] <ajr> so i know wehre it is
[22:36] <ajr> and how can i just reinstall grub
[22:36] <Nytrix> Goldfisch, what if i install everything on my internal HD then i use the "Creat a usb start up disk" option? will that work? will this move my /boot and bootloader to usb?
[22:36] <sebsebseb> botux1: and you can read and write no problem to the Windows partitions from Ubuntu, as long as they were shut down properly when Windows was running last time
[22:36] <deany> a windows virus deleting stuff from a linux partition?
[22:36] <philipp> goldfish and how do i set such a name?
[22:36] <ajr> i dont want any dualboot
[22:36] <ajr> straight to linux
[22:36] <sebsebseb> deany: yes if the driver for Windows was put on, that reads and writes to Ext3
[22:37] <mroc> botux1: i don't think there's a nice easy way to do it.  there are some tutorials out there but i have no idea what results you'd get.  i agree with other opinions here...probably not a good idea.
[22:37] <safetynet> Will it be possible to by pass Intrepid and upgrade from Hardy to Jaunty ? ?
[22:37] <gregge> Is there a quick combo to the system monitor, such as ctrl-alt del in win?
[22:37] <yowshi> different question this time. anyone know how to get a wine game to se hamachi?
[22:37] <deany> ohhh.
[22:37] <Slart> gregge: not that I know of.. you could always create one if you want to though
[22:37] <Goldfisch> Nytrix: Hmm...haven't used the option myself. However, I usually test new installations a few times using vmware, to shake out the procedure. I wonder how to tie that into using a usb boot loading partition.
[22:37] <deany> most would concentrate on c: mostly tho
[22:37] <eseven73> safetynet, no you cannot jump releases unless its LTS
[22:37] <gregge> Slart: ok, how would I do that?
[22:37] <sebsebseb> safetynet: no
[22:38] <eseven73> !LTS > safetynet
[22:38] <Slart> gregge: I think compiz has some shortcut key stuff you can use.. there are probably other ways too
[22:38] <philipp> i wanna set wlan1 as my railing wireless controler
[22:38] <SliderMan> is there a way to give bootable flag to hd without formating it?
[22:38] <sebsebseb> safetynet: you can upgrade from one LTS to  another LTS,  but you can't  upgrade to whatever version of Ubuntu you feel like, from whatever version of Ubuntu you felt like upgrading from
[22:38] <Goldfisch> philipp: When the kernel boots, it usually finds all network devices. You can see what it found using "ifconfig -a". It gives a listing of known network devices. Check this against your existing hardware. You typically don't pick the names, instead the kernel modules do that. If any card is missing, you may need to figure out the right kernel module and have it loaded as well.
[22:39] <mhilinski> hi
[22:39] <flip> SliderMan:  you can do that in gparted
[22:39] <gregge> Slart: Ok, I don't have compiz activated particularly often though :/
[22:39] <sebsebseb> safetynet: and so as a result with non LTS releases you have to upgrade in order
[22:39] <Behappy> I have installed ubunto , unfortunately I forget the password it possible to recovery the password without reinstall th system ??
[22:39] <Guest55230> once you have compiz installed where is it lol
[22:39] <sebsebseb> safetynet: and a LTS release can also be part of your upgrade process
[22:39] <botux1> k thnaks
[22:39] <SliderMan> flip, does it work for usb too?
[22:39] <sebsebseb> mhilinski: hi
[22:39] <sebsebseb> botux1: thanks for what?  :)
[22:39] <tonyyarusso> Behappy: yes.  Reboot into single-user mode and do 'passwd yourusername'.
[22:39] <Goldfisch> philipp: I good example was the fact that in the past, motherboards with nVidia ethernet support weren't standard in the kernel, and required loading the forcedeth module to activate them.
[22:40] <flip> SliderMan:  unless your bios permits you to boot from usb you need a program to put onto a cd to boot it
[22:40] <GodfatherofEir1> Halp, I think I just borked the GDM
[22:40] <flip> SliderMan:  for further help on the subject join #flip
[22:40] <eseven73> Guest55230, its in system > Preferences > Appearances, and you'll see extra effects setting
[22:40] <philipp> goldfish i have checked my lspci... one is missing
[22:40] <happyhessian> i just removed all my java and reinstalled
[22:40] <flex_> .bg
[22:40] <eseven73> Guest55230, or you could install fusion-icon
[22:40] <Nytrix> will "Create a usb start up disk" move my /boot and bootloader to usb key?
[22:40] <Whitor> Hi... program question... in Eye of Gnome, I see there is a plugin to expand image to full screen when double left clicked... I would like to close the image with a double right click... anyone know of a way to do this ?
[22:40] <Guest55230> thank  you eseven73!
[22:40] <eseven73> :D
[22:41] <Slart> gregge: hmm.. there has to be a way of doing keyboard shortcuts without compiz.. there's nothing in the system, keyboard menu thingy?
[22:41] <happyhessian> Slart: for sun java what is the package for the firefox plugin
[22:41] <mroc> how can i change the default appearance of the "Guest account"???  nobody seems to have an answer for this.
[22:41] <mrwes> I just plugged a 40GB external usb drive into my Ubuntu server and it shows the following
[22:41] <mrwes> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 1 2009-04-07 17:22 /dev/scd1
[22:41] <GodfatherofEir1> Seriously, I think I just borked the GDM on this thing.
[22:41] <Whitor> not programming* ... application would have been a more appropriate word
[22:41] <Slart> happyhessian: might be icedtea.. not sure
[22:41] <mrwes> why does it think it's a CDROM?
[22:41] <mrwes> and I can't mount it -- 'no medium found' error
[22:41] <gregge> Slart: Thanks, didn't know it was that easy :)
[22:41] <lastent> Hi i have a problem I installed ubuntu with the usb headset plugged, I plugged them out, when I plugged them in again the sound still outs by the integrated speakers, for some applications it outs for the headset, totem by the headsets and rhythmbox by the integrated speakers, what can I do?
[22:41] <Slart> mrwes: scd is usually a cdrom
[22:42] <philipp> 04:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2760 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R Cardbus
[22:42] <Slart> gregge: =)
[22:42] <philipp> just say me how i mount that on wlan1
[22:42] <mrwes> Slart, yah I know, but sudo fdisk -l doesn't show that
[22:42] <Goldfisch> philipp: You mean that you see another ethernet device listed on lspci, but it doesn't show up on ifconfig? I suggest googling the description along with "kernel module".
[22:42] <Ingsoc> mroc I think the Guest account is cleared after each logout but I guess you could write a script or something to change it at login.
[22:42] <mrwes> Slart, fdisk -l shows it's a 'Disk'
[22:42] <philipp> goldfish you got it
[22:43] <Slart> mrwes: nope.. fdisk -l doesn't show the cd for me neither
[22:43] <Slart> mrwes: are you sure that's not sdc? not scd
[22:43] <philipp> goldfish do you know how i make a allias?
[22:43] <happyhessian> icedtea was the one that jdk used but i don't know if sun has its own, i'll see what i can find
[22:43] <mroc> Ingsoc: yeah, it appears to exist only as a temporary thing, but it must draw on something to get the default settings, right?
[22:43] <eseven73> mrwes, if you man fdisk it says how buggy it is at the bottom, maybe its a bug? :)
[22:43] <mrwes> Slart, duh! no doubt brother!
[22:44] <Goldfisch> philipp: Alias for what?
[22:44] <mrwes> jezzz. I'm stupid
[22:44] <mrwes> heh
[22:44] <StevenTyler> sudo grep "secret" /media/External/I/Work Documents/web/* <-- how do I do that? the space between Work and Documents is causing a problem
[22:44] <philipp> the missing network card
[22:44] <philipp> its an external card
[22:44] <Slart> mrwes: no worries.. it's easy to miss =)
[22:44] <Goldfisch> StevenTyler: Use a backslash to escape the space.
[22:44] <StevenTyler> oh yeah!
[22:44] <mrwes> Slart, I haven't even been drinkin' -- yet
[22:44] <mrwes> heh
[22:45] <mrwes> Slart, now it mounted
[22:45] <Slart> hmm.. apparently scd is short for SCSI audio oriented optical disk drive
[22:45] <GodfatherofEir1> Alo? could somebody please help? I kind of need the system up and running again ASAP
[22:45] <mroc> StevenTyler: use a \ after Work.   also, tab completion is your friend.
[22:45] <Slart> according to wikipedia at least =)
[22:45] <novato> help in c
[22:46] <novato> un canal de spanish
[22:46] <Slart> !es | novato
[22:47] <Guest75397> \server localhost
[22:47] <lukavia> Picassotamus: i am here again, undo the changes in BIOS, should i do the ALSA compilation again if only i changed BIOS settings ?
[22:47] <Goldfisch> philipp: I don't understand what you need to do. What make/model is this network card? P.S. lspci -v can show you this info. You just have to google to find the kernel module it may need to work.
[22:47] <mroc> where are the default appearance settings defined?  i.e. when the guest account is used, new user created, etc.
[22:47] <Preplexed> I am sorry to ask but I have installed awn that rawks but when i re boot my box it not load automaticaly so is there a way i can make this happen?
[22:48] <botux1> sebsebseb: i can see mywindows network and pc but when i click on the icon after a few seconds it says unable to mount cant figure out why its doing that
[22:48] <lukavia> hi ppl, will be stupid of me if i have both ALSA and OSS drivers on my PC ?
[22:48] <GodfatherofEir1> Oh, come on, will somebody help me fix GDM?
[22:48] <xun> Hello, my system has problem to resume from suspend, where should I start trouble shooting it?
[22:48] <sebsebseb> !samba | botux1
[22:48] <mroc> Preplexed: System->Preferences->Sessions    you can add it to start on login.
[22:48] <StevenTyler> how do I do a recursive grep?
[22:49] <Picassotamus> lukavia: I don't think you should have to compile ALSA at all... is your sound card showing up now? :)
[22:49] <botux1> hmmm smaba is included by default with ubuntu right?
[22:49] <sebsebseb> botux1: no it is not, you have to install it
[22:49] <Picassotamus> !info samba
[22:49] <philipp> goldfish i have already installed that moduled
[22:49] <lukavia> GodfatherofEir1: google "install ubuntu desktop on server" something like that - on the first page there are commands for rebuild GNOME
[22:49] <botux1> sebsebseb: lol ok thats why i thought it was cause it already found my network lol
[22:50] <Nasso> does anyone know if it is possible t run a scrip one ubuntu has finnished starting up?
[22:50] <philipp> goldfish i have compiled it on my own
[22:50] <sebsebseb> botux1: ok
[22:50] <lukavia> Picassotamus: sure not :) Ubuntu is hard :)
[22:50] <bakka> hi
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !start |  Nasso
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !startup | Nasoo
[22:50] <sebsebseb> Nasso: see above
[22:50] <tonyyarusso> I've been pondering whether there's a way to do an sshfs mount in a similar fashion to reverse ssh connections, so I could use a large hard drive on a PC at home (behind a NAT) as storage for my server (which has a static public IP).  Sound plausible?
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !boot  |  Nasso
[22:51] <Nasso> sebsebseb, i gont use gnome, or gdm, or xorg. ubunutu-server
[22:51] <GodfatherofEir1> lukavia, anything in particularly I ought to look for?
[22:51] <philipp> goldfish i have already installed that module
[22:51] <Nasso> sebsebseb, is there any way to let your script in /etc/init.d start after ALL other scripts have started?
[22:51] <philipp> goldfish it was madwifi
[22:52] <Preplexed> thank-you mroc
[22:53] <meoblast001> hi
[22:53] <meoblast001> where do Firefox plugins go?
[22:53] <meoblast001> i guess i'll have to drop Gnash in manually
[22:53] <sebsebseb> Nasso: probably, but not sure how
[22:53] <|Dreams|> ok i am trying to change my mtu to 4352 with the command ifconfig eth0 mtu 4352 but keep getting the error SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument help
[22:53] <sebsebseb> meoblast001: in .mozilla  a hidden folder in home
[22:54] <Behappy> I have rest my password but still say username or password incorrect
[22:54] <meoblast001> sebsebseb: i'm in there... now where
[22:54] <sebsebseb> meoblast001: plugins or some such?
[22:54] <meoblast001> sebsebseb: i don't have that folder
[22:54] <sebsebseb> meoblast001: Gnash is nice, but  Adobe Flash is still better with Flash
[22:54] <sebsebseb> meoblast001: you can't have both installed
[22:54] <sebsebseb> meoblast001: they won't work nicely together I mean
[22:55] <Matson> is there a maximum partition size for scsi 3.0 GB drives using ext3 ?
[22:55] <meoblast001> sebsebseb: i uninstall Proprieflash
[22:55] <carpii__> im guessing 3.0 G
[22:55] <sebsebseb> Matson: no maxium partition size,  as long as you got space on your hard disk
[22:55] <Matson> sebsebseb: thanks
[22:55] <meoblast001> sebsebseb: i'm compiling because Gnash from Ubuntu's repos isn't working well
[22:55] <Diabl0> someone know which plugin for x-chat for show music playing in audacious ?
[22:55] <drostie> why are Ubuntu's openssl packages still back at 0.9.8 g/h?
[22:56] <Matson> on the "partition" section of the installer, some partifitions have a capital "F" other have a small "f"  anyone know the difference?
[22:56] <sebsebseb> meoblast001: yeah you can install  Flash directly from Mozilla, but the one in the repo is pretty up to date
[22:56] <meoblast001> sebsebseb: Gnash
[22:56] <sebsebseb> meoblast001: try Swfdec as well if you want alternative to Adobe's
[22:56] <lewench> Anyone know how to execute a command in bash to display results in another terminal?
[22:56] <meoblast001> sebsebseb: you can't compile Flash.. it's proprietary
[22:56] <sebsebseb> meoblast001: yes I know that, and Swfdec is nice as well
[22:56] <Preplexed> sorry to ask wen i am adding something in session prefrences wat i put in the command line
[22:56] <philipp> goldfish come on i just need this command
[22:56] <meoblast001> sebsebseb: i heard it's dead... last i tried it it wouldnt work
[22:56] <wat> yes Preplexed?
[22:57] <wat> you said my name
[22:57] <sebsebseb> meoblast001: the Flash format is propritary, and so these players  well they are for a propritary format and so hum
[22:57] <Picassotamus> lewench: yes pipe them.... ls -la | tty1 maybe?
[22:57] <meoblast001> sebsebseb: uh huh
[22:57] <lukavia> Picassotamus: will be a problem if i install OSS drivers now ?
[22:57] <Picassotamus> lewench: or /dev/tty1 perhaps
[22:57] <Matson> if there are bad blocks on a drive - will the format and filesystem create handle them?
[22:58] <Matson> or do I need to do something to check and flag them on install?
[22:58] <Duckthis> Is there someone under 8.10 or previous who can give me an info about TrueCrypt?
[22:58] <Preplexed> in the name i guess i put awn manager as that what application i want but what i put under command
[22:58] <otm> when you join a channel and it says "no messages from outside", what have I done wrong when joining it?
[22:58] <lewench> Picassotamus, Ah, pipe. Ok, I will read up on that. Im creating a script, but when I execute a command it kinda closes the script, so I have to restart the script again. Is there a way around this? My alternative was to open the command in another terminal.
[22:58] <Picassotamus> lukavia: Is your soundcard showing up now?
[22:59] <|Dreams|> is there a problem with the new kernels that dont allow me to change the mtu above 1500? if so what good is that if i am using fiber that supports larger than 1500
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[23:00] <sebsebseb> !ot Behappy
[23:00] <Picassotamus> lewench: I'm not sure what your mean.... you have to close your script file to run a command for testing... or?
[23:00] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Behappy
[23:00] <matt> i just wanted to say thanks to those that helped me with my cd burning issue. i installed k3b then had to install a package to allow it to work with mp3's and everything works great, already burned 5 discs :)
[23:00] <Duckthis> Is there someone under 8.10 or previous who can give me an info about TrueCrypt?
[23:00] <jrg_dnn> #xbins
[23:00] <sebsebseb> matt: yep  thank you, me
[23:01] <lukavia> Picassotamus: no it is not
[23:01] <mbent_> hi all, I would like to connect to a Cisco vpn. I have installed all the relevant things for network manager but, how can I restrict only traffic that goes over it, to a particular Class B range?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> matt: and yeah the codecs so you can play MP3
[23:01] <Behappy> I have change my password from single-user mode 'passwd yourusername' put still incorrect
[23:01] <philipp> okey can anyone else say me how i can make an name like wlan1 for a controller?
[23:01] <Picassotamus> lukavia: If your soundcard isn't detected, then it won't matter what driver you  have : /
[23:01] <mbent_> there used to be an option in network manager plugin, but it seems to have disappeared in the latest version
[23:01] <lewench> Picassotamus, Once I exec the script, it asks you a question to setup the variable. then it executes the command with the variable. But when it executes the command the script finishes. I want it to go back to the menu.
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Behappy: you can do it in the recovery console as well.  in the root prompt.   sudo passwd  username
[23:02] <sebsebseb> Behappy: password changing may even work better there
[23:02] <Behappy> sebsebseb: Ok let me try
[23:02] <tonyyarusso> sebsebseb: you don't need sudo when you're already root.
[23:02] <lewench> Picassotamus, In other words once the script executes, to go back to the first line "echo "What would you like to do? \n""
[23:02] <matt> hey guys...i just installed grabcd-rip to rip cd's to mp3 tracks, it didnt show up in apps so i used locate grabcd-rip to find it and it returned nothing. how do i locate the app so i can add it to apps list?
[23:02] <philipp> okey can anyone else say me how i can make an name like wlan1 for a controller?
[23:02] <sebsebseb> Behappy: yeah  recovery console,  from the bootloader, and yes no sudo in the root prompt as that guy pointed out
[23:02] <lukavia> Picassotamus: your thinking is logicall, so any other ideas ? :/
[23:02] <Behappy> ok
[23:02] <tonyyarusso> it should work, but is a bit silly :P
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Behappy: you can also get a root prompt in Ubuntu install and try there
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Behappy: and graphically you can set a password for a user even it seems
[23:05] <Picassotamus> lewench: I'm not an experienced BASH scripter... but you would probably need to setup some kind of loop, where it checks if the persion types quit, or again, then repeats code
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Behappy: sudo -i  for a root prompt
[23:06] <Picassotamus> lukavia: not really... i might try to reinstall 8.04, not a real good answer though i know
[23:06] <matt> hey guys...i just installed grabcd-rip to rip cd's to mp3 tracks, it didnt show up in apps so i used locate grabcd-rip to find it and it returned nothing. how do i locate the app so i can add it to apps list?
[23:07] <sebsebseb> matt: not sure, but you can use it's name and open it via the terminal
[23:07] <Picassotamus> lukavia: Was sound broken, right after 8.1 upgrade?
[23:07] <lukavia> Picassotamus: thank you for cooperation :) i apreciate it :)
[23:07] <matt> whats teh command to open apps via terminal? i've tried typing in just the apps name and it doesnt work
[23:07] <lewench> Picassotamus, How would I pipe a command to xterm?  ex. ls -l | xter     ?
[23:07] <deany> matt, rubyripper is the linux equiv of  EAC  for windows
[23:07] <jrib> matt: be more specific
[23:07] <sebsebseb> matt: also if you got it from the Ubuntu repo.   logging out and back into your account may add it to the menu
[23:08] <lukavia> Picassotamus: i did not attend upgrade, i put clean 8.10
[23:08] <robert__> need help with wireless
[23:08] <deany> preferably, use it
[23:08] <matt> jrib: more specific about what?
[23:08] <sebsebseb> !wireless | robert__:
[23:08] <Picassotamus> lewench: I can't really say, i was just trying to point you in the right direction based on your question... now that i know more, i don't think piping is what you need, you need a loop
[23:09] <eseven73> Pica, Picassotamus same person?
[23:10] <Behappy> sebsebseb: the password still incorrect on graphic mode
[23:10] <Picassotamus> lukavia: Yeah... i would either try 8.04 since it worked before, or 8.1 again... i don't know what else to say really...
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Behappy: re set in a root prompt then
[23:10] <lukavia> Picassotamus: lspnp lists that 01:01.00 CSC0100 (unknown) i will continue fighting :)
[23:10] <Picassotamus> eseven73: no
[23:10] <eseven73> ah
[23:10] <Behappy> ebsebseb: I did that
[23:11] <sebsebseb> Behappy: make a new account and delete that user?
[23:11] <matt> sebsebseb: you said to open grabcd-rip through the terminal. i cannot figure out how to open apps in the terminal. can you give me the proper command syntax?
[23:11] <deany> matt, there are better apps.. use em
[23:11] <sebsebseb> matt: name of program and hit enter
[23:11] <Picassotamus> lukavia: I doubt that is your sound card, since lspvp is for plug and play, imo
[23:11] <sebsebseb> deany: such as?
[23:11] <matt> that did not work
[23:11] <Behappy> sebsebseb: also I can't login by root to mode graphic
[23:11] <lukavia> Picassotamus: now i remember that in 8.04 i heard only the login sound, which is "bum-bum" if u know :) and after that in X i did not have sound
[23:11] <sebsebseb> deany: telling him that there are better apps, but not which, is not that helpful really
[23:11] <deany> like, brasero you used.. use k3b..   use rubyripper
[23:12] <deany> ive just tried a few apps already.. and givin my opinion.
[23:12] <sebsebseb> matt: you want to copy MP3's?
[23:12] <matt> deany: the reason i asked is for the sake of knowing why so i can apply it to other things. my goal is to learn linux, not just use it
[23:12] <Picassotamus> lukavia: Have  you tested to see if you hear the login sound in 8.1?
[23:12] <matt> i wanted to install the program to rip wav audio from cds to mp3
[23:12] <deany> sebsebseb, i already told him before hand the name... btw..
[23:12] <sebsebseb> matt: OGG would be better I guess
[23:13] <sebsebseb> !ogg |  matt
[23:13] <matt> i realize other apps do it, i guess i just wanted to know for the sake of it
[23:13] <eseven73> yea I was gonna say use ogg if possible
[23:13] <sebsebseb> matt: converting to OGG format is better :)
[23:13] <matt> i can't use ogg :( too many componets i use do not support it
[23:13] <sebsebseb> matt: MP3 is closed source propritary format.   to many components don't suppourt it?
[23:13] <eseven73> ogg is more linux-like :)
[23:13] <lukavia> Picassotamus: there is possibility that the sound card is PnP, because i have memories of that showed in windows
[23:13] <matt> no, ogg
[23:14] <deany> we all try to give out help from experience dont we.. well mine says rubyripper is what i prefer, as its goal is to be like EAC.. and you cant get much better than EAC.
[23:14] <Picassotamus> lukavia: For a built in sound card? Thats wierd, but possible i suppose
[23:14] <sebsebseb> deany: I haven't used either of htose programs, so no idea what they are really heh
[23:14] <deany> and it makes MP3...
[23:14] <eseven73> tk away nicks are lame ;)
[23:14] <sebsebseb> eseven73: indeed, but most of us still have MP3's and not OGG's
[23:15] <matt> deany: i will try ruby ripper. but im still purplexed as to why i couldn't find the app with the locate command hehe
[23:15] <deany> OGG is ok but in real world, not really, until all mobiles and mobile music players support it
[23:15] <Lint01> can I use WMA files with MPD?
[23:15] <sebsebseb> matt: you can find stuff in Synaptic as well
[23:15] <eseven73> sebsebseb, yep im well aware of that
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !synaptic | matt
[23:15] <matt> yeah i know, but i feel REALLY cool using the terminal for everything :) lol
[23:15] <deany> im all for OGG.. but i also live in the real licensed world
[23:15] <sebsebseb> deany: yeah  indeed
[23:15] <matt> i hail from windows after all
[23:16] <sebsebseb> deany: once manufactures suppourt OGG and FLAC properly :)  untill then MP3 has most of that market
[23:16] <eseven73> 'hail'?
[23:16] <matt> come from windows
[23:16] <matt> where no one uses a terminal
[23:16] <angelo> ciao
[23:16] <deany> rubyripper rips the track twice, and compares mdsum...
[23:16] <deany> and then encodes it to whatever you want
[23:16] <matt> guys, will ogg ever be as widely used as mp3?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> matt: indeed and the comand prompt in Windows is rather limiting
[23:16] <eseven73> no way
[23:16] <eseven73> I don't see it happening
[23:17] <matt> sebsebseb: yes it is
[23:17] <deany> to make sure you get an "Exact Audio Copy" (EAC )
[23:17] <sebsebseb> it will  once enough people stop being so freaking ignorant at computers and other such technology, untill then no
[23:17] <lukavia> Picassotamus: yeah, the PC is 10 years old :D IBM http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=JBAR-3U3KQG
[23:18] <sebsebseb> matt: that was a bit like asking will Ubuntu ever become as popular as Windows?   well  same answer as the OGG  vs MP3 thing
[23:18] <ianm_> anyone know if xsetwacom can make a Bamboo [Fun] tablet report mouse button 4,5,6,7,8,9 presses for the 4 tablet buttons and wheel up/down movements?
[23:18] <eseven73> you got two very dominant and controlling computer companies, like one wouldn't be bad enough, Microsoft and Apple, until they go belly up, nothing will change
[23:18] <sebsebseb> eseven73: Apple aren't as bad as Microsoft though
[23:18] <eseven73> right
[23:18] <matt> is the ubuntu developments team goal to compete with windows in the mainstream market?
[23:18] <eseven73> you're blind sebastien
[23:19] <eseven73> sebsebseb*
[23:19] <sebsebseb> matt: of course
[23:19] <Geoffrey2> eseven73, well, Microsoft gives us another OS like Vista, and you never know.....
[23:19] <eseven73> but getting off topic ;)
[23:19] <sebsebseb> eseven73: not at all, I know Apple lock people in big time as well, and hardare as well, not just software
[23:19] <matt> a few things need to change before that happens. this is coming from an average user
[23:19] <deany> all it`ll take is for apple/ipod to support OGG.. and make an itunes for linux.. dont they know they will open up their market that way
[23:19] <botux1> sebsebseb: i cant figure this out it keeps asking me for  a user name and password my network doesnt use authentication for sharing
[23:20] <matt> i've been enjoying my linux adventure a lot. but there are a lot of problems that people who aren't as willing to read, learn, and try things won't tolerate
[23:20] <sebsebseb> deany: Apple like to pretend that Desktop Linux does not exist,  after all if more people knew Desktop Linux existed, well who would need a Mac?  other then  some  multimedia pros,  but even the movie industry have gone Linux
[23:20] <m1dn1ght> Hi guys.  I've just installed Ubuntu and have enabled the restricted driver for my card (On board Nvidia Geforce 7100) - however I cannot make screen resolution bigger than 800x600.  Can anyone give some advise please?
[23:20] <botux1> sebsebseb: i figured it might be my firewall so changed some settings in  their but still wont lemme see windows shares
[23:20] <deany> sebsebseb, the people who dont know how to use it
[23:21] <deany> just enable ogg and itunes even capable in wine..  that`d be enough...for a while
[23:21] <matt> m1dn1ght is your monitor big enough?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> botux1: you installed samba-common or whatever it is,  been a while since I did samba
[23:21] <deany> like, help wine make itunes work
[23:21] <m1dn1ght> matt:  Definitely.
[23:21] <sebsebseb> deany: itunes won't work in wine yet, but there is a good enough  alternatieve out htere
[23:21] <sebsebseb> there
[23:21] <botux1> sebsebseb: yeah me too
[23:22] <sebsebseb> botux1: ha ha no, since your new to Linux
[23:22] <deany> sebsebseb, not good enough for newer ipods and iphone
[23:22] <meshuggah> how can i install linux vista?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> botux1: places  >  network you tried that to get into  Windows stuff, once Samba is installed?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> deany: indeed
[23:22] <Titan8990> meshuggah, its not recommended
[23:22] <Titan8990> !wubi | meshuggah
[23:22] <botux1> sebsebseb: actaully not new to linux just ubuntu
[23:23] <Titan8990> meshuggah, I would actually recommend a VM over wubi....
[23:23] <botux1> sebsebseb: been a while since i played with linux though
[23:23] <Titan8990> !vbox | meshuggah
[23:23] <jdu> can I record from the mic without having it play out the speakers?
[23:23] <meshuggah> wo
[23:23] <meshuggah> i dont understand
[23:23] <meshuggah> too much information
[23:23] <meshuggah> wait
[23:23] <sebsebseb> meshuggah:  I know you
[23:23]  * meshuggah slaps sebastien
[23:23] <otm> how can i use a proxy with ubuntu?
[23:23]  * meshuggah slaps sebsebseb
[23:23] <meshuggah> oops
[23:23] <FloodBot1> meshuggah: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:23] <meshuggah> sorry sebastien
[23:23] <Titan8990> meshuggah, get used to the "too much information" becuase you will be relearning how to use a computer
[23:23] <eseven73> !ot
[23:23] <matt> i mean no disrespect when i say this but, i really feel part of the problem with making ubuntu a front running contender to windows boils down to the philosphy
[23:23] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: you could actsaully help people and such I know you can
[23:23] <fosco_> otm: system - preferences - proxy
[23:24] <botux1> sebsebseb: yes i went there and still no dice
[23:24] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, ok sorry
[23:24] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: seems the ops are gone and all right now, but stil no  good reason to troll this channel for fun
[23:24] <meshuggah> lol
[23:24] <meshuggah> you are funny
[23:24] <meshuggah> anyone needs help?
[23:24] <eseven73> you only think they're gone
[23:24] <sebsebseb> eseven73: yeah unless your one?
[23:25] <m1dn1ght> Hi guys.  I've just installed Ubuntu and have enabled the restricted driver for my card (On board Nvidia Geforce 7100) - however I cannot make screen resolution bigger than 800x600.  Can anyone give some advise please?
[23:25] <jrib> meshuggah: please stay on-topic
[23:25] <botux1> sebsebseb: still says unable to mount
[23:25] <meshuggah> jrib, sorry :(
[23:25] <sebsebseb> no ops are not gone, I think jrib is one
[23:25] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: why not be useful in here, instead of trolling it a bit for fun?   I know you know stuff
[23:25] <eseven73> sebsebseb, No Im not an op silly
[23:25] <sebblucas> good afternoon to all, i am looking for someone who can help extensively with ubuntu server setup
[23:25] <otm> fosco_: Isn't that just a network proxy though :S (i've never really understood this)
[23:25] <CrawfordComeaux> if I've got a disk with a deleted partition and I use gparted to create a partition, will that erase the data?
[23:25] <meshuggah> sebsebseb, it is what iam saying, if people need help, me will help if i can
[23:26] <Titan8990> sebblucas, join #ubuntu-server
[23:26] <sebblucas> thanks you titan8990
[23:26] <Titan8990> sebblucas, but you are not going to find someone to config your server for you
[23:26] <jdu> m1dn1ght, sometimes if you fiddle with the settings for a while and/or change frequencies, it will show more options.
[23:26] <Titan8990> sebblucas, if you don't know anything about UNIX CLI administration, a linux server is probably not the best choice
[23:26] <jdu> has anyone used /dev/audio or /dev/dsp to record?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> meshuggah: ok
[23:27] <jdu> CrawfordComeaux, erase the data in the deleted partition?
[23:27] <botux1> anyone else wanna take a stab at helping me with samba
[23:27] <CrawfordComeaux> sorry...crappy question.  a partition was deleted and I'm trying to recover the files in it.  if I create a partition using gparted, will that delete the files I'm trying to grab?
[23:27] <nejode> CrawfordComeaux: you should run testdisk before creating a new partition
[23:27] <jdu> botux1, what is wrong?
[23:27] <CrawfordComeaux> nejode: ok
[23:27] <meshuggah> CrawfordComeaux, yeah
[23:28] <CrawfordComeaux> that's installing right now
[23:28] <Matson> does "mount" show swap spaces?
[23:28] <botux1> jdu: well i can see my vista pc on the network but cant access it it keeps saying unable to mount
[23:28] <fosco_> Matson: no, use free to view swap
[23:28] <CrawfordComeaux> Matson: nope
[23:29] <Matson> how do I tell if swap is mounting correctly at startup?
[23:29] <fosco_> Matson: free -m
[23:29] <jdu> botux1, I don't think I can help with it then.  I have only ever done accessing samba on ubuntu from windows
[23:29] <jdu> Matson, swapon untility
[23:29] <jdu> swapon -s
[23:30] <Matson> so if free lists it there, then it is using it if it needs it / mounting correctly?
[23:30] <botux1> jdu: im trying to be able to access samba from my windows box as well
[23:30] <ModNar> hey guys i have a Atheros A242X and running ubuntu 8.10 I can have installed the drivers before(madwifi) and they work but they don't work all the time they only work about 1/2 the time
[23:30] <botux1> jd: i cant see my ubuntu shares on my vista box at all
[23:30] <Jerky_> is there a channel for jaunty?
[23:30] <botux1> jdu: rather
[23:31] <fosco_> Matson: yes
[23:31] <jdu> Jerky_, #ubuntu+1
[23:31] <Jerky_> thanks
[23:31] <ybeddyj> i have two files.....file1 was modified with a lot of changes to form file2 ...now i want to compare them and discard the similar areas and only keep the changes for file3...how do i do that...sdiff..diff..diff3 what should i use and what switches
[23:32] <jdu> botux1, you might need to fix something in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[23:32] <botux1> jdu: im in the gui editor now tryig to figure it out an its like greek to me lol
[23:32] <jrib> ybeddyj: diff -Nurp