[12:01] <ompaul> ladydoor,  if you want to build a package you can use it for it, but building a package is mostly a source thing if it is binary based no idea but I am sure the clue is in there
[12:01] <ladydoor> ompaul: sweet
[12:01] <day> hi everybody, would someone know if it is possible to have infraread working on an ubuntu macbook with the 2.6.15 kernel ? i've seen that it's working on gentoo with a 2.6.18 patched kernel
[12:01] <THX-1138> ompaul - What is the app that creates a deb from an installed package?
[12:02] <ompaul> ladydoor, I have finite knowledge but don't tell flannel :)
[12:02] <ladydoor> ompaul: lol
[12:02] <THX-1138> ompaul is *always* here and exceedingly modest.
[12:03] <ompaul> THX-1138, I only know how to do that version - if it is already installed you need to step back to the install section
[12:03] <ompaul> and rebuild from sources
[12:03] <THX-1138> Okay.
[12:03] <ompaul> THX-1138, however gnomefreak did some research on that I can't remember the outcome
[12:04] <THX-1138> Great, Thanks i'll ask him.
[12:04] <nickers_> anyone running edgy having evolution exchange issues?
[12:04] <BigMac> !help
[12:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:04] <ompaul> !edgy
[12:04] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:05] <cpk2> !schedule
[12:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:05] <nickers_> thanks
[12:05] <BigMac> 64Bit Live: AMD 34oo+ 64bit, ATI Rad x700 pro PCI-e. Xserver is being a whore
[12:05] <vcolombo_> Does anyone have a recommendation on an inexpensive, fully supported PCMCIA wireless card that I can get without ordering it from someplace (i.e. walk into CompUSA)?
[12:05] <exs>  Is there a good RSS program, where I am able to look for keywords... so it will notify me when for example it finds "Gaim" ?
[12:06] <THX-1138> Is it possible to indulge thrillseeking (masochistic?) tendencies and download and Edgy Eft iso?
[12:06] <ick> DBO: couldn't start X with old kernel eather
[12:06] <DBO> ick, reconfigure xorg and select vesa for now
[12:07] <cpk2> vcolombo_: I have a really cheap airlink i got from frys that "works"
[12:07] <BigMac> help please
[12:07] <Fantamoer> join #debian
[12:07] <BigMac> xserver wont work for me and i have never installed ubuntu
[12:07] <BigMac> so it isnt the update
[12:07] <vcolombo_> cpk2: "works"?
[12:08] <frenris> Heh I just installed ubuntu yesterday
[12:08] <BigMac> lucky
[12:08] <cpk2> vcolombo_: yes, need to modprobe ndiswrapper and even then it gives me attitude sometimes
[12:08] <frenris> its funny cause the first time I tried
[12:08] <BigMac> i have been trying for 3 days
[12:08] <BigMac> no luck
[12:08] <frenris> I had to kill windows
[12:08] <frenris> and reformat
[12:08] <cpk2> vcolombo_: there is a list on the wiki of what works and what doesnt
[12:09] <vcolombo_> cpk2: ah, yeah, I'm dealing with a card that "works" right now. I want one that WORKS. ;)
[12:09] <BigMac> you like it frenris?
[12:09] <JackONeil> whats the second most popular graphics package for linux?
[12:09] <frenris> and now on XP my internet, speakers and pinter does work while they work out of the box on ubuntu
[12:09] <frenris> ya
[12:09] <frenris> no
[12:09] <frenris> dam
[12:09] <frenris> typo
[12:09] <frenris> and now on XP my internet, speakers and pinter does *not* work while they work out of the box on ubuntu
[12:09] <BigMac> man i just cant get ubuntu to load
[12:09] <frenris> I like it
[12:09] <frenris> running it now
[12:10] <BigMac> did you do live or alt?
[12:10] <BigMac> is it pretty?
[12:10] <Fantamoer> I guess SuSE is pretty popular too.
[12:10] <THX-1138> Ah, The "Daily Build" - (sly grin) - looks like fun. :)
[12:11] <THX-1138> Suse uses rpm packaging? (shudder)
[12:11] <jorgg> if i have a folder that only root can access, and I dont want to change permissions on it. Can i use sudo to enter it? when I try sudo cd dir, i get the command: sudo: cd: command not found.
[12:11] <tothepigeons> sudo nautilus
[12:11] <Tonren> What is Enterprise Volume Management?
[12:11] <Fantamoer> Yes, SuSE = rpm
[12:11] <tothepigeons> will give you a root file manager
[12:11] <jorgg> tothepigeons: to me?
[12:11] <ladydoor> jorgg: cd into it
[12:11] <ladydoor> jorgg: without sudo
[12:12] <tuxub> Tonren, i think it's related to LVM disks
[12:12] <tothepigeons> yes jorgg
[12:12] <ladydoor> jorgg: and then work on it from within
[12:12] <Tonren> tuxub: dunno what those are either.
[12:12] <jorgg> ladydoor: only root has +x and can enter it
[12:12] <BigMac> 64Bit Live: AMD 34oo+ 64bit, ATI Rad x700 pro PCI-e. Xserver is being a whore any suggestions?
[12:12] <THX-1138> Ubuntu repos are an unsung feature. well organized and well tested.
[12:12] <osfameron> !restricted
[12:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:12] <jorgg> tothepigeons: illtry
[12:12] <grimboy> jorgg, sudo su - then cd into it
[12:12] <tothepigeons> jorgg if you use "sudo nautilus" it will give you a file manager window and you will have root abilities to manipulate files
[12:12] <tuxub> Tonren, check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_volume_management
[12:13] <jorgg> tothepigeons: okay thanks
[12:13] <onthost> I have a question, i tried to compile Unreal IRCD and got this error: configure:1733: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:13] <onthost> any ideas? gcc is installed
[12:13] <tothepigeons> onthost: have you tried googling that error?
[12:14] <onthost> tothepigeons: yes and i havent found a solution yet
[12:14] <ladydoor> onthost: was this on the make install phase or on the make phase?
[12:14] <sedrake> DBO: ok, got in X, everything is rly ugly tho :p
[12:14] <BigMac> 64Bit Live: AMD 34oo+ 64bit, ATI Rad x700 pro PCI-e.  I type startx after configuring and all i am left with is a light, not blinking...just a light
[12:15] <onthost> ladydoor: ./configure phase, so the start of the make phase
[12:16] <onthost> im going to try to compile hybrid-ircd, ill get a better idea that way i think
[12:17] <THX-1138> onthost - Why would you want an irc server are you going to "herd" windows boxes?
[12:17] <piclez> hi fellas.. i just changed my user group and now I can't sudo anymore, is the default user part of the root group? thks
[12:17] <sedrake> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23477 Xorg.0.log.old
[12:17] <BigMac> 64Bit Live: AMD 34oo+ 64bit, ATI Rad x700 pro PCI-e.  I type startx after configuring and all i am left with is a light, not blinking...just a light
[12:17] <starscalling> anyone know how to install posix module in cpan?
[12:18] <onthost> THX-1138: why? to play around with, why else? lol and no to herd osx boxes =p
[12:18] <midas> hi
[12:18] <Tonren> Does anyone know exactly what LVM and EVMS are, what they do, and how I know if I'm using them, or need them?
[12:19] <Captain_Redbeard> Does anybody here have any experience with xgl?
[12:19] <midas> i've got probs with the nvidia drivers.When i install it in recovery mode and start GDM everything is fine,but when i restart ubuntu it doesn't work.. whats the prob ?
[12:20] <BigMac> anyone else have trouble with xserver and an ATI graphics card?
[12:20] <vcolombo_> Tonren: afaik lvm is logical volume manager and I don't think Ubuntu (or any flavor thereof) uses it by default.
[12:20] <tothepigeons> LVM is a variation/addition to partitions am I correct?
[12:20] <Tonren> vcolombo_: Well, EVMS is causing quite a delay on my bootup.  If I only have 4 major partitions on my HD - i.e., no logical partitions - can I remove them from bootup?
[12:21] <rummik> how long should it take to dd a 80GB drive?
[12:21] <vcolombo_> Toren: and according to Google EVMS is Eastern Virginia Medical School ;)
[12:21] <Tonren> vcolombo_: Oh dear... there's a school on my computer!
[12:21] <AZzKikR> exit
[12:21] <AZzKikR> whoops, this aint a shell
[12:21] <vcolombo_> Toren: actually it's Enterprise Volume Management System I guess
[12:21] <grimboy> Hey, I have 802.11g belkin usb wifi thingmabob. At https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported near the very bottom it says it should show up in network administration. I'm running xubuntu and it doesn't show up there at all. Doing a diff before and after pluging in the device shows there isn't a difference, but it DOES show up on lspci.
[12:21] <vcolombo_> Toren: do you have raid at all?
[12:21] <Tonren> vcolombo_: Nope.
[12:22] <vcolombo_> Toren: Did you install them manually? I don't think they're installed by default, so if they're installed on your system and you didn't install them manually they may have gotten installed for a reason
[12:23] <Tonren> vcolombo_: I certainly didn't...
[12:23] <rixxon> will it be easy to get XGL working in edgy?
[12:23] <vcolombo_> Tonren: Hmmm. Then I'd be a bit leary about removing them just yet
[12:24] <Tonren> vcolombo_: Hmm.
[12:24] <vcolombo_> Tonren: you said you have four partitions?
[12:24] <Tonren> vcolombo_: Yep, all of 'em primary
[12:25] <Fantamoer> join #/holland
[12:25] <miked595> anyone know how to get the broadcom 4318 card working? I've tried fwcutter and now trying ndiswrapper
[12:25] <vcolombo_> tonren: does your system maybe have raid capability that you're just not using?
[12:25] <Tonren> vcolombo_: I doubt it.  Since when do mid-range laptops have RAID?
[12:26] <vcolombo_> tonren: heh, just making sure
[12:26] <cstrippie> Since some of us started putting a second hard drive in the media bay
[12:26] <Tonren> vcolombo_: Hehe
[12:26] <Tonren> cstrippie: I don't have any extra drives
[12:26] <cstrippie> oh, nevermind then
[12:26] <cstrippie> ;)
[12:27] <borelia> !tor
[12:27] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[12:28] <BigMac> 64Bit Live: AMD 34oo+ 64bit, ATI Rad x700 pro PCI-e.  I type startx after configuring and all i am left with is a light, not blinking...just a curser light
[12:28] <RevangelyonX> Hi all
[12:28] <BigMac> any ideas?
[12:28] <piclez> hi, please, what's the default Secondary groups of my user? to get sudo privileges..
[12:28] <_keturn> I am confused about the dmix story.  In several places, I have read "request: enable dmix by default", and the answer "ok, done in Breezy."  However, there is no /etc/asound.conf file, and I do occasionally encounter craptastic sound conflicts.    I type startx after configuring and all i am left with is a light, not blinking...just a light
[12:32] <onthost> jonah1980: are the files owned by root? meaning only root can delete them?
[12:32] <jonah1980> onthost, no they're owned by the user but i can't get rid of them
[12:33] <spoop> ubuntu owns your fais
[12:33] <djm62> cschneid: pdflatex and then pdf2ascii (or whatever the package names are...)
[12:33] <vcolombo> tonren: lvm and evms ARE actually part of ubuntu_base and ubuntu_desktop
[12:33] <jonah1980> onthost, i could of formatted the card fresh but it also won't let me copy files i need on the card to backup first
[12:33] <vcolombo> tonren: in other words installed by default
[12:33] <Crazed> what is the reason for the kernel update ?
[12:34] <Tonren> vcolombo: how odd.  so I suppose I just need to figure out if I"m actually USING them
[12:34] <Tonren> vcolombo: EVMS takes up like 5 - 10 seconds on boot, man does it suck
[12:34] <Sybux> hi
[12:34] <vcolombo> tonren: I'm guessing you're not
[12:34] <Sybux> Is there a way to install an older package with apt-get that the default one ?
[12:35] <THX-1138> !apt
[12:35] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:35] <THX-1138> -force
[12:35] <Tonren> vcolombo: Me too.
[12:35] <cwkx> Please could anyone explain why some applications (Synaptic, Network Settings, Login Window) do not get themed by some dark themes, but do by the Human theme?
[12:35] <Tonren> vcolombo: Worst case scenario, I can just use.. uh... what was that command-line app that lets you edit boot options?
[12:36] <BigMac> which is better 86i or 64bit?
[12:36] <vcolombo> tonren: argh, I always forget since I don't use it often. At work we use redhat based systems so I'm used to chkconfig
[12:37] <Tonren> vcolombo: "bum" is the GUI package.. i'ts like rc-update.conf or something
[12:37] <meh3434> cwkx: what dark themes?
[12:37] <Tonren> does anyone remember the name of the command-line app for changing bootup runlevels?
[12:37] <Tonren> it's like rc-conf.d or something
[12:38] <xyazabix> i am dual booting ubuntu desktop and server. when I installed the server it won't let me choose which install to boot into... please help
[12:38] <cwkx> meh3434: Specifically "Clearlooks-DarkNice" found at http://art.gnome.org
[12:39] <cwkx> and any of my themes with dark bacgrounds
[12:39] <meh3434> cwkx: how did you install the theme?
[12:39] <cwkx> I dragged it into the theme prferences
[12:39] <jester45> could anyone tell me how to delete files from my ext2 harddrive from livecd
[12:39] <osfameron> what's the quicksilver-like app for KDE called again?
[12:39] <meh3434> yes.. if you run an application as root it can only use themes that are installed system-wide
[12:40] <meh3434> like in /usr/share/themes for example
[12:40] <osfameron> ah, katapult
[12:40] <cwkx> I see, so I should install the theme as root?
[12:40] <jonah1980> is there anything i can use to delete files from a memory card as it won't let me?
[12:40] <grimx> where do i download w32codecs
[12:40] <osfameron> !beagle
[12:40] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB
[12:41] <djm62> jonah1980: did you mount your memory card manually?
[12:41] <meh3434> cwkx: you probably have to copy them manually in the proper folder
[12:41] <yoshiznit123> !restricted > grimx
[12:41] <xyazabix> can someone help me with my dual boot of server and desktop problem???
[12:41] <piclez> please, anybody could help me, what should be my primary group for my user to have sudo privileges?
[12:41] <jonah1980> djm62, not is just pops up when inserted in the card reader
[12:41] <cwkx> Thank you, ill have a play around and come back to you
[12:41] <djm62> jonah1980: and if you select a file, right-click and Delete what error does it give?
[12:42] <yoshiznit123> piclez, I think its admin
[12:42] <midas> can somebody help me with the nvidia driver ?
[12:42] <grimx> because i cant hear any sound when watching video over the web
[12:42] <jonah1980> djm62, "/media/Kin...thing.mp3" cannot be deleted because it is on a read-only disk.
[12:43] <jester45> could anyone tell me how to deleted files on a hard drive from a livecd
[12:43] <midas> they work fine in recovery mode, but when i restart, nothing works anymore
[12:43] <piclez> thanks yoshiznit123
[12:43] <djm62> jonah1980: oh, how odd.  Is there any kind of write protection on the card itself?
[12:44] <Tonren> vcolombo: it's sysv-rc-conf
[12:44] <jonah1980> djm62, no write protection and i can put stuff on the card
[12:44] <vcolombo> tonren: ahhh
[12:44] <xyazabix> Flannel: Could you help me again???
[12:44] <RevangelyonX> i need to know how make dial-up net with ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[12:44] <Tonren> vcolombo: well, here goes.  i shut it off...
[12:45] <djm62> jonah1980: whisky tango foxtrot.  so you can put stuff on the card, but if you try to delete anything it says it's read only?
[12:45] <piclez> yoshiznit123: primary or secondary group: adm?
[12:46] <yoshiznit123> piclez, if you want fine-grained control, you can edit the /etc/sudoers file
[12:46] <yoshiznit123> piclez, by default, members of admin group can get root priviliges (explained in /etc/sudoers)
[12:46] <jester45> could anyone please tell me if haveing 100% of a hard drive used provent you from loging in
[12:46] <jonah1980> djm62: yeah that's about the jist of it - i tried copying the entire contents of the card to desktop so i could format the card but it just comes up with preparing to copy dialog for ages and ages and then that dissapears and nothing copies over, so i can't format it cos there is stuff on i need
[12:46] <xyazabix> can someone help me with my dual boot of server and desktop problem???
[12:47] <compilerwriter> I need to find a voip product that will be friendly with WindowsXP, and Ubuntu
[12:47] <yoshiznit123> jester45, it shouldn't (root has 5% of the disk reserved, so you should be able to login as root and delete files from there)
[12:47] <djm62> jonah1980: wow, that sounds worrying.  If you have the window open on that and you select File->Empty Trash ?
[12:48] <piclez> yoshiznit123: I got it, but the problem is now I don't have more sudo privileges, because I used usermod -Gsubversion myuser and I think It changed all my groups
[12:48] <piclez> so I can't edit anything more even shutdown won't work
[12:48] <meh3434> compilerwriter: skype
[12:48] <jonah1980> djm62 when i empty the wastebin nothing happens - at least for this memory card, other ones ok and computer files are fine - it's just this memory card
[12:48] <eugman> What's a good perl ide
[12:48] <caseyomah_> Is there a way to make VLC WMV compatible?
[12:49] <lupine_85> compilerwriter: anything SIP-based
[12:49] <compilerwriter> Anyone have any ideas.
[12:49] <djm62> jonah1980: sounds quite a lot like there's something wrong with the card.  Have you tried it in a different computer to test that?
[12:49] <lupine_85> you can use the client of your choice, then - e.g. Ekiga iin Ubuntu, <anything random> in Windows
[12:49] <lupine_85> lots of free clients
[12:49] <meh3434> actually I tink there's a win32 ekiga client out now
[12:49] <yoshiznit123> piclez, that sucks... did you activate your root account, or can you login as another with root privs?...
[12:49] <philc> can I use unix sort to sort the first two fields by alphanumeric, and the third field numerically (if the first two fields are the same)?
[12:50] <jonah1980> djm62, no i can't get to a different machine before i go away - i wanted to put some albums on the card and clear some stuff off as i go on holiday in a couple of days
[12:50] <compilerwriter> I am having issues with skype.
[12:50] <meh3434> http://snapshots.voxgratia.org/win32.php does this actually work?
[12:50] <piclez> I keep getting piclez is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[12:50] <jonah1980> djm62, there isn't some kind of memory card utility program you can get for ubuntu/linux is there that can repair or delete stuff etc?
[12:50] <djm62> jonah1980: has the card ever worked?
[12:50] <yoshiznit123> meh3434, i tried it once but couldn't get the webcam working
[12:50] <piclez> yoshiznit123: I dit not activate root account :(
[12:51] <piclez> I have admin user I created to use webmin with roor privileges
[12:51] <lupine_85> piclez: boot into recovery mode and fix from there
[12:51] <meh3434> yoshiznit123: I didn't even know it had webcam support ;)
[12:51] <yoshiznit123> piclez, you can always boot into the live cd...
[12:51] <piclez> so if I boot from live CD can I change this ?
[12:51] <yoshiznit123> meh3434, maybe that's why it didn't work :-)
[12:51] <vcolombo> Anyone have an idea of why my laptop suddenly stopped loading ndiswrapper when I plug in my pcmcia wireless card? It was working, not it's not. But if I remove ndiswrapper and un-blacklist rl818x that loads just fine when I plug the card in.
[12:51] <jonah1980> djm62, yeah last month i used it fine
[12:51] <piclez> lupine_85: thanks! how to boot into rec. mode?
[12:51] <meh3434> yoshiznit123: you tried it on windows?
[12:52] <yoshiznit123> meh3434, yea
[12:52] <djm62> jonah1980: and you haven't changed the computer side significantly since then?
[12:52] <lupine_85> hit the reset button (or ctrl+alt+del). Recovery mode shows up in the GRUB menu
[12:52] <compilerwriter> Lupine_85 such as.
[12:52] <meh3434> yoshiznit123: but other than the webcam issue it was fine?
[12:52] <yoshiznit123> meh3434, i didn't really use it that much, was just to see if it worked
[12:52] <jonah1980> djm62, no - was wondering if the files just got corrupted or something
[12:52] <ztripez> is there a program that returns a pages html?
[12:52] <cwkx> meh3434: Thanks for the advice earlier, I installed the reinstalled the theme with "gksu gnome-theme-manager" and it now works with Synaptic and my other programs
[12:52] <lupine_85> compilerwriter: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=softphone+windows&btnG=Search&meta=
[12:53] <compilerwriter> thank you.
[12:53] <yoshiznit123> ztripez, it's called 'wget' :-)
[12:53] <jonah1980> djm62, i thought if there was some kind of repair utility or something...
[12:53] <meh3434> cwkx: no prob
[12:53] <Crazed> What is the reason for the kernel update ???
[12:53] <djm62> jonah1980: yes there is
[12:53] <jonah1980> djm62, really?
[12:53] <djm62> jonah1980: can you open a terminal?
[12:53] <lupine_85> Crazed: there's a kernel update in Dapper?
[12:53] <ztripez> yoshiznit123, no.. then i "download" the code.. i what to do like htmldown www.google.com | grep input
[12:53] <lupine_85> !linux-386
[12:53] <ubotu> linux-386: Complete Linux kernel on 386.. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:54] <lupine_85> !linux-image
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <lupine_85> !linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-image-2.6.15-27-386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <jonah1980> djm62, sure ok
[12:54] <Crazed> yep there is lupine_85
[12:54] <lupine_85> what's the version number, if you don't mind me asking
[12:54] <lupine_85> my botfu seems to be down right now, and I'm in edgy
[12:54] <xyazabix> an someone help me with my dual boot of server and desktop problem???
[12:55] <Crazed> >> !linux-386 this printed out the version
[12:55] <yoshiznit123> ztripez, wget -qO - www.google.com?
[12:55] <Crazed> not the linux kernel update
[12:55] <caseyomah_> Is there a plugin for WMV encryption?
[12:55] <Crazed> just some fix I gues ..
[12:55] <djm62> jonah1980: type 'mount' at the cmd line and try to find the line corresponding to your card (I don't know what it will be, but there should be something)
[12:55] <Crazed> thats why I am asking ;)
[12:55] <Crazed> 6.06 kernWhel security update issue is fixed
[12:55] <davey_> my system is unstable when using the opensouce rt61 drivers
[12:55] <ztripez> yoshiznit123, ahhh.. :D been trying to that.. :D thanks
[12:55] <Crazed> but what ? :p
[12:56] <yoshiznit123> np :-)
[12:56] <lupine_85> davey_: rt2x00 or rt61 ?
[12:56] <lupine_85> Or the base ralink driver?
[12:56] <jonah1980> djm62, ok did that and it said it's already mounted
[12:56] <jshadow> hello all, is there a way to force the programs in the bottom panel use the full width of the panel?
[12:56] <lupine_85> ah, the kernel update isn't an ABI change so that's OK
[12:56] <sureshot> hey all how do i change the resolution when it does not give me any options
[12:56] <jshadow> using gnome
[12:56] <davey_> rt61 on an amd64 kernel
[12:57] <lupine_85> davey_: th rt61 driver needs a patch applying for amd64... have you done that
[12:57] <djm62> jonah1980: that's cool
[12:57] <davey_> lupine_85 I think so, are you talking about modding the interface file?
[12:57] <jonah1980> djm62, ok
[12:57] <djm62> jonah1980: and did it say ro on that line?
[12:58] <lupine_85> davey_: no. There's a portion of the source code that isn't 64-bit safe. The patch fixes that, but introduces a (small) memory leak
[12:58] <lupine_85> I'll get a linky for you...
[12:58] <davey_> k
[12:58] <jonah1980> djm62, sorry not with you - sdb1 nothing about ro
[12:58] <jonah1980> djm62, /media/Kingston
[12:59] <JackONeil_> !swat
[12:59] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:59] <djm62> jonah1980: anything in brackets at the end of the line?
[12:59] <jonah1980> djm62, no nothing
[12:59] <djm62> rightyho
[12:59] <jonah1980> djm62, just says mounted on /media/Kingston
[01:00] <sureshot> can someone tell me how to change resolution when it does not give you any options to do so
[01:01] <sj> sureshot: tried using the menu? or are you looking at editing the xorg.conf file?
[01:01] <djm62> jonah1980: sudo fsck -t vfat /media/Kingston
[01:01] <boricua> disapointed on the offical ubuntu book, i think is to basic!!!
[01:01] <djm62> boricua: probably means you aren't the target audience ;)
[01:01] <lupine_85> davey_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1407558#post1407558
[01:01] <sean> Wow
[01:02] <sean> Full channel
[01:02] <sureshot> the menu does not give any options to do so. the xorg file list all the resolutions i dont know what is going on
[01:02] <nwbreneman> Could somebody help me with an apache2 problem? I've followed the instructions to password protect a directory, but nothing I do makes it work.
[01:02] <boricua> djm62, well when i read official i thought it was more like for a admin not a user
[01:02] <twshadow101> I needed some help, I just installed Ubuntu Linux, and now I can't access my second hard drive. :S Anyone wanna help a newbie LInux user?
[01:02] <sj> sureshot: edit the xorg.conf as per the resolution you need, just use the same syntax
[01:03] <boricua> nwbreneman:  AuthName "Authentication Required"
[01:03] <boricua>   AuthUserFile "/var/www/.htpasswd"
[01:03] <sureshot> sj  how do i edit it is wrote protected
[01:03] <nwbreneman> AH. I see the problem now.
[01:03] <djm62> boricua: you probably want something with an animal on the cover and latex typesetting in between
[01:04] <boricua> djm62, not really come one
[01:04] <nwbreneman> Thanks boricua!
[01:04] <davey_> lupine85, how big is the memory leek?
[01:04] <sj> sureshot: sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:04] <piclez> yoshiznit123: hi again yoshi. I booted with the LiveCD, what should I do now to gain root access to my HD Ubuntu?
[01:04] <sureshot> sj thanks
[01:04] <lupine_85> davey_: around 6KB/hr
[01:04] <JDStone> anyone know of a HOWTO on building ubuntu packages?
[01:04] <djm62> boricua: I meant O'Reilly :-/
[01:04] <Caplain> i just mke2fs -j'ed  my windows partition, do i get a cookie?
[01:04] <lupine_85> better than no Internet at all, I'm sure :). They are working on fixing it...
[01:04] <boricua> djm62, i dont like oreilly books that much
[01:04] <yoshiznit123> piclez, find where it's mounted, then from command line do chroot '/media/root'
[01:05] <lupine_85> ...you could also try the rt2x00 drivers (which don't have this problem!). They're what Edgy uses
[01:05] <jonah1980> djm62, ok did that
[01:05] <djm62> jonah1980: what was the result?
[01:05] <davey_> lupine_85, are you using it right now?
[01:05] <jonah1980> djm62: fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[01:05] <twshadow101> I needed some help getting to my second hard drive, I installed Ubuntu and now I cant access what used to be E Drive on WIndows. ;)
[01:05] <jonah1980> djm62: dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[01:05] <djm62> jonah1980: don't paste! describe
[01:05] <lupine_85> davey_: edgy yes, rt61 no (I've got an rt2570 USB stick)
[01:05] <jonah1980> djm62: Read 512 bytes at 0:Is a directory
[01:05] <sj> twshadow101: you have to mount it
[01:06] <jonah1980> djm62, that's all
[01:06] <jonah1980> djm62, three lines
[01:06] <twshadow101> I tried it wouldnt let me
[01:06] <sj> !mount > twshadow101
[01:06] <adrian__> aasdf
[01:06] <adrian__> adsf
[01:06] <adrian__> adsf
[01:06] <djm62> jonah1980: sudo fsck -t vfat /dev/sdb1 ?
[01:06] <piclez> thanks so much yoshiznit123
[01:06] <twshadow101> sj, let me try and i'll let you know what it does.
[01:06] <yoshiznit123> piclez, no problem, did it work?
[01:06] <Trigger_H> i think i may have found a bug, but i need someone to recreate it
[01:07] <twshadow101> sj, here is the error I get. error: device /dev/hdd1 is not removable
[01:07] <twshadow101> error: could not execute pmount
[01:07] <jonah1980> djm62, ah that said if found bad entries and asked if i wanted to drop the directory with them in
[01:07] <jonah1980> djm62, so i hit yes
[01:07] <jonah1980> djm62, and it said: Warning... fsck.vfat for device /dev/sdb1 exited with signal 11.
[01:08] <djm62> jonah1980: ouch"
[01:08] <sj> twshadow101: hmmn you followed the syntax? specified the mount point? ou would have to create the mount point
[01:08] <jenda> what version of GRUB does Ubuntu use?
[01:08] <djm62> jonah1980: can you try it again just to underline that?
[01:08] <lupine_85> !info grub dadpper
[01:08] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[01:08] <lupine_85> !info grub edgy
[01:08] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 358 kB, installed size 764 kB
[01:08] <Kibou[banned] > JDStone: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ you find the same guide in yelp
[01:09] <twshadow101> Sj, im not sure what you mean. I am going to where it list the hard drives and right clicking and then clicking "mount volume"
[01:09] <osfameron> where can I find the "kdesu" package ?
[01:09] <lupine_85> osfameron: in "main"
[01:09] <sureshot> sj i took the numbers out of the default line now do i need to reboot
[01:09] <osfameron> lupine_85: main?
[01:09] <davey_> lupine_85, so I would do a rmmod of rt61 recompile the dayly cvs with the pacth before compiling?
[01:10] <piclez> yoshiznit123: sorry for my ignorance, but how can I find out where it's mounted? I only have on hard drive and 1 CDrom
[01:10] <jgil> hi all
[01:10] <lupine_85> davey_: yes
[01:10] <jgil> anyone can help me?
[01:10] <lupine_85> osfameron: oh, sorry. it's not in a package of it's own
[01:10] <piclez> hi
[01:10] <djm62> jonah1980: sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1 ?
[01:10] <jgil> how i can change the language to key in dapper?
[01:10] <greg_zx> hi jgil
[01:10] <tgelter> hey ya'll. I am looking for a data recovery program. I deleted some files from a storage drive (which hasn't been written to since I deleted them) then had a partition fail on my machine
[01:10] <davey_> lupine_85, alright bro I'll save that page go into linux and do what I can man thanks I"ll  be back
[01:10] <jgil> how i can change the language to keyboard in dapper?
[01:10] <osfameron> lupine_85: roight, I installed katapult, which works fine except for apps it needs to sudo.  Then it complains it can't find kdesu
[01:10] <jgil> hi greg_zx
[01:11] <yoshiznit123> piclez, try 'ls /media', it would probably be something like /media/hda1 or /media/hda2
[01:11] <lupine_85> np :)
[01:11] <Cycne> hello
[01:11] <tbaur> hey
[01:11] <sj> twshadow101: you mentioned filesystem? check the options (-t etc), its long since I used the shell for mounting, Ubuntu generally autodetects and shows win drive on desktop
[01:11] <jonah1980> djm62, yeah did all that and same thing again
[01:11] <lupine_85> osfameron: it would be pulled in if you installed kubuntu-desktop, no doubt, but that'd be a complete pain... hang on
[01:11] <greg_zx> this is some crazy chaos
[01:11] <greg_zx> dudes
[01:11] <greg_zx> my sister had a ababy today
[01:11] <jgil> how i can change the language to keyboard in dapper?
[01:11] <djm62> jonah1980: can you eject and reinsert it?
[01:11] <greg_zx> she gave birth to a baby
[01:11] <Cycne> I'll find out
[01:11] <tbaur> secret
[01:12] <greg_zx> can you imagine?
[01:12] <greg_zx> im an uncle
[01:12] <nwbreneman> Hi again. Apparently I don't know what the problem is. I still can't password protect a file or directory under apache2. Can anyone help?
[01:12] <greg_zx> im so proud
[01:12] <greg_zx> !!!
[01:12] <twshadow101> Sj, sorry it is the file manager. It shows the hard drive but if I click it I get "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdd1""
[01:12] <greg_zx> im so so so so sos os drunk
[01:12] <keleus> Every time I install something from APT (ubunto repo or not) i get warnings about not verified .... gpg signatures is my guess
[01:12] <greg_zx> cmon guys its my sisters baby!
[01:12] <greg_zx> ok just dont ban me
[01:12] <keleus> why would it loose the keys, and how do i get em back?
[01:12] <greg_zx> i had to say it
[01:13] <twshadow101> SJ. as far as I know its Windows NTFS. I hope that doesnt cause I problem because I have a lot of files I wanted to bring into the new OS from there.
[01:13] <greg_zx> :P
[01:13] <sj> twshadow101: it isnt external HD right? coz I had probs prev like that
[01:13] <overridex> greg_zx: imagine passing a watermelon through your nostril, that's like having a baby ;)
[01:13] <twshadow101> Sj, no its internal
[01:13] <osfameron> lupine_85: ah, gotcha.  I wasn't thinking of installing the whole of kde, but I guess that's a possibility..
[01:13] <greg_zx> overridex: i think thats just how it is
[01:13] <greg_zx> 1:15 qm here
[01:13] <greg_zx> am*
[01:13] <jgil> how i can change the language to keyboard in dapper?
[01:13] <sj> damn! now I remember.. when installing Ubuntu, I specified and mounted my win partition
[01:13] <keleus> qm? is that a new time zone?
[01:14] <twshadow101> sp: am I screwed? lol
[01:14] <twshadow101> sj:*
[01:14] <piclez> yoshiznit123 ls /media brings nothing! :/
[01:14] <keleus> !signatures
[01:14] <djm62> jgil: System->Preferences->Keyboard
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about signatures - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <keleus> !gpg
[01:14] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[01:14] <nwbreneman> I've set the .htaccess and .htpasswd files accordingly, but still can't get any password protection with apache2. Anyone help?
[01:14] <greg_zx> win part is defaultly mounted while installation
[01:14] <keleus> hmm not what im looking for
[01:14] <keleus> anyone know how to get APT to verify legit packages again?
[01:14] <alex_ndc> hi people ... can anyone give me advice on how to get newer Mono packages ... or at least point me to a good tutorial on building deb packages from tarballs ?
[01:14] <piclez> yoshiznit123: total 0..  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:16] <JackONeil_> Hey, i can't get in to SWAT - it asks for my user/pass and i have used smbpasswd to add a user but still no luck
[01:16] <djm62> jonah1980: no joy?
[01:16] <twshadow101> keleus: so I need to be root to change the permissions?
[01:16] <JackONeil_> I used... sudo smbpasswd -a cyorxamp    (then i gave it the password, then restarted samba)
[01:16] <keleus> twshadow101, are you mounting from command line or are you using an /etc/fstab entry
[01:16] <keleus> twshadow101, no, you just need to pass two options when its mounted
[01:16] <jonah1980> djm62, well all the files are still there that won't go
[01:16] <jman8888> Can ubuntu dual boot with win98?
[01:16] <twshadow101> keleus: im mounting from the file system by right clicking
[01:17] <keleus> twshadow101, you using gnome or kde?
[01:17] <twshadow101> keleus: gnome
[01:17] <alex_ndc> Phoul: it should ... kill -9 PID
[01:17] <npodges> the kernel update broke my nvidia drivers. i can't get into gnome anymore.. it also broke my ndiswrapper. since my wireless is set as the default network device, i cant update via eth0. how can i change network settings to default wired settings from the command line?
[01:17] <twshadow101> keleus: im a linux newbie by the way
[01:17] <keleus> twshadow101, "gksudo -S gedit /etc/fstab" - BE CAREFULL, make NO TYPOS in that file
[01:17] <overridex> jman8888: yes
[01:17] <nadia_007> wondering if someone can direct me to a source that could help me solve my Error Reading from server I get with I try to do sudo apt-get update?
[01:17] <keleus> twshadow101, are you using the user account that you made when you installed ubuntu?
[01:18] <jman8888> overridex, Ok. Also can windows98 and xubuntu be on seperate drives?
[01:18] <twshadow101> keleus: yes
[01:18] <nwbreneman> Can anyone tell me how to fix my password protection with apache2? I've followed the directions, set .htaccess and .htpasswd accordingly, etc., and it doesn't work.
[01:18] <keleus> twshadow101, is the file open?
[01:18] <twshadow101> keleus: im not in root if thats what you mean.
[01:18] <djm62> jonah1980: from a terminal, mkdir Kingstonbackup, then cp -r /media/Kingston Kingstonbackup
[01:18] <keleus> gksudo -S will make the command you ran root...
[01:18] <lupine_85> osfameron: sorry, I can't seem to find it!
[01:18] <keleus> anyways get /etc/fstab open in an editor as root somehow
[01:19] <djm62> jonah1980: I'm thinking get what you can off it, then reformat
[01:19] <twshadow101> keleus the file is open
[01:19] <Anubuntu> heyo, ive got a video that for some stupid reason is in 4 parts, can someone tell me if theres a program for linux that will join them into one?
[01:19] <overridex> jman8888: haven't tried it, i assume so
[01:19] <Trigger_H> npodges: man ifconfig
[01:19] <compilerwriter> Is there a windows softphone that can connect with ekiga?
[01:19] <keleus> twshadow101, what partition is your windows system on?
[01:19] <jman8888> Can Ubuntu dual boot with a os on a seperate drive?
[01:19] <cafuego> jman8888: yes
[01:20] <twshadow101> keleus: from what I can tell on LInux its hdd1 on WIndows it was E
[01:20] <lupine_85> compilerwriter: all SIP softphones are inter-connectible
[01:20] <keleus> hdd1?
[01:20] <lupine_85> SIP is an open standard
[01:20] <jonah1980> djm62, ok trying that
[01:20] <keleus> thats what we need
[01:20] <twshadow101> keleus: yeah
[01:20] <compilerwriter> How does one do this then?
[01:20] <Phoul> !quicktime
[01:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:20] <jman8888> cafuego, Do you have to do anything seperate?
[01:20] <keleus> twshadow101, is there a line starting /dev/hdd1 in the file?
[01:20] <osfameron> lupine_85: heh, no problem, at least I know I wasn't going mad when I couldn't find it before :-)  I think I'll worry about it tomorrow, thanks!
[01:20] <twshadow101> keleus: I know its /dev/hdd1
[01:20] <compilerwriter> I have not tried ekiga yet.
[01:20] <lupine_85> You can even get hardware devices (ATAs) with a network plug on one side, and a 'real' phone plug on the other ;)
[01:20] <knoppMythNewbie> Hi...   Would ubuntu be a good os to give with them?  When I started with linux, a decade ago, dial-up to the net was a difficulty.  Is it easier now, with ubuntu?
[01:21] <tgelter> hey ya'll. I am looking for a data recovery program. I deleted some files from a storage drive (which hasn't been written to since I deleted them) then had a partition fail on my machine
[01:21] <lupine_85> compilerwriter: first you need a SIP server/company that provides SIP services
[01:21] <jonah1980> djm62, that seems to be copying so far - it wouldn't at all from within nautilus
[01:21] <lupine_85> these are free for SIP-SIP calls
[01:21] <keleus> twshadow101, .... just tell me if the line is in fstab
[01:21] <djm62> jonah1980: fingers crossed...
[01:21] <keleus> twshadow101, sorry, dont mean to be cross... but i work on a helpdesk and deal with very... thick... people all day
[01:21] <djm62> compilerwriter: http://www.sipphone.com/softphone/
[01:21] <jonah1980> djm62: i appreciate your help on this, thanks a lot
[01:21] <compilerwriter> ekiga doesn't work in and of itself then?
[01:21] <keleus> twshadow101, by the time i get home i have no patience :D
[01:22] <lupine_85> usually you get a geographic number for people to call you from the PSTN network as well
[01:22] <twshadow101> keleus: sorry, im new and I dont understand all the linux stuff just yet.
[01:22] <lupine_85> compilerwriter: neither does skype ;)
[01:22] <compilerwriter> True, but it is a world unto itself.
[01:22] <keleus> twshadow101, I understand, i was there not very long ago. I would hardly consider myself very knowledgable.... but you found the area that i DO know something about :D
[01:22] <compilerwriter> Skype and Ubuntu don't play well with one another.
[01:23] <twshadow101> keleus: in this fstab thing you had me open, I dont even see hdd1 listed
[01:23] <keleus> twshadow101, hmmm.... well lets go about a different way.
[01:23] <twshadow101> keleus: i see hda1, hda5, and hdb
[01:23] <keleus> twshadow101, you already tried to mount it once?
[01:23] <twshadow101> keleus: yes
[01:23] <keleus> btw, you can close that file
[01:23] <twshadow101> done
[01:23] <keleus> make a directory somewhere.
[01:23] <keleus> doesnt matter where or what the name is (no spaces though, makes it less confusing)
[01:23] <sky123> any peeps familiar with vsftpd here..?? got a specific question about setting browse functionality properly
[01:24] <twshadow101> on the desktop or does it really matter?
[01:24] <twshadow101> oh ok
[01:24] <twshadow101> lol
[01:24] <keleus> desktop is fine
[01:24] <keleus> open a terminal
[01:24] <rixxon> when stopping X, how do you get back in without rebooting?
[01:24] <twshadow101> I created one called drive_e
[01:24] <lupine_85> compilerwriter: you can get a quick overview of how SIP works here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol  .  As for a SIP server, I use www.voip.co.uk
[01:24] <archangelpetro> http://rafb.net/paste/results/bXwO6u66.html  could anybody identify the problem and/or state a solution please?
[01:24] <twshadow101> on the desktop
[01:24] <sky123> vsftpd - even after setting up chroot for the user...they can still browse....any ideas??
[01:24] <shibby> rixxon try alt + F5
[01:24] <lupine_85> It's really really easy, and much better than Skype :)
[01:24] <keleus> twshadow101, yea, we need a terminal where we can type stuff and things :)
[01:25] <keleus> i think its in system or utilities
[01:25] <twshadow101> Terminal is open :)
[01:25] <keleus> ok... just cause i need to know which way its mounting
[01:25] <compilerwriter> so a person with windows could use Gizmo, and I could use ekiga?
[01:25] <keleus> "lsmod | grep fuse"
[01:25] <keleus> no quotes
[01:25] <archangelpetro> how does one mount a windows share across a network to a local directory?
[01:25] <rixxon> shibby: i'm talking about when you've done something like ctrl+alt+f1 and you're in a fullscreen terminal. i've tried logging in and running startx with no effect
[01:25] <keleus> did you get anything?
[01:25] <twshadow101> nope
[01:26] <keleus> ok
[01:26] <djm62> jonah1980: if it's done copying, sudo umount /media/Kingston
[01:26] <th1ef> hey im new in ubuntu. can anyone help me about How to install XMMS??
[01:26] <tgelter> thlef: sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:26] <keleus> "sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8 /dev/hdd1 /home/USERNAME/Desktop/FOLDERYOUMADE"
[01:27] <jonah1980> djm62, it's throwing up some input/output errors at moment - guess it's the corrupt files
[01:27] <keleus> make sure you fix the paths.... see USERNAME and FOLDERYOUMADE
[01:27] <rummik> how should i partition this drive so that it can dual boot linux and windows?
[01:27] <twshadow101> yes
[01:27] <oskar_> I'm trying to use my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card as my OpenGL renderer, but I can't change it from the default mesa
[01:27] <grimboy> What's the name of that command that you run when you connect a device to see what's been put in dev?
[01:27] <keleus> rummik, install windows FIRST and do it on hda1
[01:27] <shibby> rixxon yes try with F5 i or else Fx
[01:27] <keleus> rummik, then the rest is ridiculously easy
[01:27] <twshadow101> it asked for a pass, so I put one in which I use for Unbunto and then it did nothing
[01:27] <archangelpetro> hmm :/
[01:27] <keleus> twshadow101, nothing you SAW....
[01:27] <jonah1980> djm62, it's taking an age
[01:27] <th1ef> hey im new in ubuntu. can anyone help me about How to install XMMS??
[01:28] <keleus> go open that folder
[01:28] <twshadow101> keleus: I clicked on the folder and got this, "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "drive_e"."
[01:28] <djm62>  jonah1980: if it's taking ridiculously long, you might want to ctrl-C out of it and consider how valuable the data is on it...
[01:28] <rixxon> shibby: i just don't see why that would start X in a _terminal_?
[01:28] <archangelpetro> th1ef: sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:28] <twshadow101> keleus: same thing I got in file manager
[01:28] <keleus> twshadow101, ok, where is the folder?
[01:28] <rummik> keleus: so, i let windows do the partitioning? :O
[01:28] <twshadow101> keleus: desktop
[01:28] <keleus> rummik, for itself
[01:28] <keleus> twshadow101, folder name? and your usernam? (capital letters count)
[01:28] <JDStone> i'm using dpkg-buildpackage to make a package of lirc, but when I do that, it says I need to run './configure'
[01:29] <th1ef> archangelpetro: E: Couldn't find package xmms
[01:29] <oskar_> can any one help me with my video card, I want to use it for OpenGL but I can't change it from Mesa
[01:29] <JDStone> does anyone know why? can someone help me?
[01:29] <twshadow101> keleus: everything is lower case
[01:29] <JDStone> i'm following this guide: http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/08/16/Building-deb-package-from-source
[01:29] <rummik> keleus: should i worry about putting a small linux partition before it, or is that nothing?
[01:29] <djm62> jonah1980: is it stuff you have copies of? is there anything special about the memory card or is it just a generic fat32 memory card?
[01:29] <keleus> twshadow101, Desktop isnt lowercase
[01:29] <grimboy> th1ef, use the synaptic package manager
[01:29] <keleus> anyways, fix the paths then...
[01:29] <Kibou[banned] > JDStone: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ you find the same guide in yelp
[01:29] <twshadow101> keleus: no I left Desktop alone
[01:29] <archangelpetro> th1ef: apt-get update
[01:29] <shibby> rixxxon i think i dont understand what u are talking about lol, u are in a black terminal ok ?
[01:29] <th1ef> i have do that
[01:29] <th1ef> but the same
[01:29] <archangelpetro> th1ef: you need your sources list to be updated
[01:29] <twshadow101> keleus: it mounted but it says I odnt have permission to vew it
[01:29] <twshadow101> dont*
[01:29] <JDStone> thanks Kibou[banned]
[01:30] <shibby> rixxon and u want back in X ?
[01:30] <twshadow101> view*
[01:30] <th1ef> archangelpetro: what my list should include?
[01:30] <djm62> jonah1980: and by way of background, how big is it?
[01:30] <rixxon> shibby: yes
[01:30] <keleus> "ls -Llah /home/USERNAME/FOLDERYOUMADE/" and tell me what one of the lines reads (copy/paste ONE Line).. thats two els after the ls btw
[01:30] <rixxon> shibby: ctrl+alt+f1 stops X and gives a fullscreen terminal stating "[hostname]  login:"
[01:30] <jonah1980> djm62, mostly it's just junk or songs whatever, but i've got a couple of work docs on there but it seems to have copied everything like that, it's just struggling with the .Trash folder contents
[01:30] <shibby> rixxon so type alt + ctrl + F5 or F6 or F7 or F9  --> try
[01:30] <grimboy> Can anyone remember the name of that command that you run when you connect a device to see what's been put in dev? I've tried apropos to no avail
[01:30] <twshadow101> keleus: it only gave me: ls: /home/tyler/drive_e: No such file or directory
[01:30] <th1ef> grimboy: what my list should include?
[01:30] <jonah1980> djm62, it's a 2gb card
[01:31] <rixxon> shibby: shouldn't i run some command? o_O
[01:31] <rummik> k>
[01:31] <shibby> rixxon that's work for me
[01:31] <keleus> twshadow101, .... sorry... "ls -Llah /home/user/Desktop/FOLDERYOUMADE/"
[01:31] <shibby> rixxon i dont think so
[01:31] <wladston> Guys, ubuntu's grub suddely screwed up, and now I can restore grub anymore. It says root@ubuntu:/#  grub-install /dev/sda -- /dev/sda: Not found or not a block device. anyone can help me?
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> I want to use an HP printer on this machine's LPT1 from another Ubuntu Laptop connected to the same router.  Both have internet access so the net is working ... Just need some printer config help
[01:31] <djm62> jonah1980: damn, that's a lot to work with.  can you check that you have the essential stuff backed up now?
[01:32] <twshadow101> keleus: "ls: /home/tyler/Desktop/drive_e: Permission denied"
[01:32] <keleus> hmm.... stick a sudo in front
[01:32] <twshadow101> ok
[01:32] <jonah1980> djm62, yeah it's backed up all the important stuff in one of the first folders it did, it's still trying to copy .trash and there is a music folder also to go
[01:32] <keleus> FYI, you can press up to get the last line... and hit HOME to jump to the beginning of the line
[01:32] <archangelpetro> th1ef: mount: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:32] <sean> chaos
[01:32] <archangelpetro> minus mount*
[01:32] <keleus> you dont have to retype it all
[01:33] <tgelter> so I take it that nobody knows about data recovery software for linux?
[01:33] <twshadow101> it showed me what folders are on it
[01:33] <wladston> i want my computer back ... :.-(
[01:33] <grimboy> th1ef, If you go into synaptic package manager and go do settings > repositories, then tick everything.
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> tgelter: Recovery of XP or Linux software?
[01:33] <keleus> twshadow101, ok... but can you copy a line here, i need some of the info
[01:33] <twshadow101> there is 20 lines lol
[01:33] <twshadow101> which one?
[01:34] <th1ef> where i can find synaptic package manager?? im a n00b sorry!
[01:34] <keleus> any
[01:34] <shibby> wladston did u try  ? root(hd0) ? or something like that ?
[01:34] <tgelter> Jack_Sparrow: I have a FAT32 partition (external hard drive) that I deleted files from that I need back
[01:34] <twshadow101> ls -Llah /home/tyler/Desktop/drive_e
[01:34] <grimboy> th1ef, in your ubuntu menu under administration
[01:34] <twshadow101> oops
[01:34] <twshadow101> sorry
[01:34] <twshadow101> dr-x------ 1 root  root   4.0K 2006-08-02 14:31 My Documents
[01:34] <keleus> lol dont forget the sudo
[01:34] <keleus> hhmmmm
[01:34] <keleus> hold on, i did something wrong earlier then
[01:34] <grimboy> th1ef, Have you found it?
[01:34] <shibby> wladston i mean before type grub-install ...
[01:34] <keleus> it should say dr-x------- 1 tyler tyler         blahblah
[01:35] <rixxon> shibby: thanks, it works fine. i'm beginning to understand how this works now
[01:35] <twshadow101> only one line says it
[01:35] <archangelpetro> th1ef: go to that site.. get it to generate you sources.list  then overwrite it into /etc/apt/sources.list       then type "apt-get update && apt-get install synaptic"
[01:35] <shibby> rixxon no problem ;)
[01:35] <twshadow101> drwxr-xr-x 3 tyler tyler  4.0K 2006-09-14 19:28 ..
[01:35] <djm62> jonah1980: if the important stuff is across, cancel out of it, umount the device, verify that the files are really there and format it
[01:35] <twshadow101> the rest are under root
[01:36] <keleus> twshadow101, yea. the directory ".." is the directory that the current directory is in... which in your case is /home/tyler/Desktop
[01:36] <keleus> "." is the directory itself
[01:36] <twshadow101> oooh ok
[01:36] <dk06> how do i lauch cedega
[01:36] <dk06> 5.1.3
[01:36] <djm62> jonah1980: well, this is my advice, and you should be aware that it will definitely destroy any files on the card and that you're comfortable with that as an attempt to fix it
[01:36] <twshadow101> the directory itself is root
[01:36] <twshadow101> dr-x------ 1 root  root    20K 2006-09-14 12:38 .
[01:36] <keleus> twshadow101, ok, "sudo umount /dev/hdd1"
[01:36] <twshadow101> ok
[01:37] <twshadow101> done
[01:37] <Trigger_H> twshadow101, mounting ntfs?
[01:37] <twshadow101> I put it in and nothing happened now im back at the command line
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> I want to use an HP printer on this machine's LPT1 from another Ubuntu Laptop connected to the same router.  Both have internet access so the net is working ... Just need some printer config help
[01:37] <keleus> twshadow101, ok... this is too hard to do remotly (considering i use FUSE instead of regular mounting)
[01:37] <keleus> twshadow101, instead, im going to point you HERE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:38] <Trigger_H> !ntfs-3g
[01:38] <twshadow101> lol, I stump you?
[01:38] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[01:38] <Trigger_H> ^^ there you go twshadow101
[01:38] <Tonren> Guys, I'm trying to format my CompactFlash card through a USB Zio! reader, and every time I use Gparted to format to FAT32, it actually mounts the drive and opens it in Nautilus, then gives me an error
[01:38] <oskar_> I really need help with my ATI card, I would really appriciate it if someone could help me with tat
[01:38] <Tonren> Can nayone hlep?
[01:38] <Tonren> Wow.  That was horrendous.
[01:38] <keleus> twshadow101, but pay attention to the section "Accessing the Files on Your Windows Partition From Ubuntu"
[01:38] <tgelter> what repository do I need to install the amd64-k8-smp kernel?
[01:38] <keleus> twshadow101, DO NOT USE NTFS-3G
[01:38] <shibby> oskar_ what happen to u ?
[01:38] <dannyr> Hurrah - I finally got gld working - can anyone please reccommend a virus checker to fit in with postfix, courier, spamassassin and gld - not ClamAV - I have had disasters with this?
[01:38] <keleus> twshadow101, at your level of experience something bad might happen
[01:39] <djm62> jonah1980: actually you might want to try dosfsck -n /dev/sdb1 as a last attempt at recovery before wiping it
[01:39] <keleus> Trigger_H, hes only trying to read his data
[01:39] <oskar_> shibby: I want to use it as the open gl renderer, but I can't do it
[01:39] <oskar_> i wont swithch from mesa
[01:39] <phaedrus44> what software or driver should i look for to install a usb video capture device?
[01:39] <Trigger_H> keleus: i guess
[01:39] <keleus> Trigger_H, normal mount -t ntfs will work if he can get it to stop mounting everything as root:root
[01:39] <Tonren> Also, can anyone tell me what command is actually triggered when you select "Eject" from the right click GNOME menu, causing changes to be written to the flash memory?
[01:39] <Hatty> Whats a good DVD player for ubuntu?
[01:39] <Trigger_H> keleus: it has to do with the umask
[01:39] <twshadow101> keleus, yeah im trying to use like a regular hdd
[01:39] <shibby> oskar_ sorry cant help u :s
[01:40] <Kibou[banned] > Tonren: umount probably
[01:40] <djm62> jonah1980: I got this from googling, in case it's any good to you: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Photo_Recovery_From_Defective_Memory_Card
[01:40] <oskar_> ok , tahnks
[01:40] <jonah1980> djm62, ok i'll cancel it and give taht a try
[01:40] <Trigger_H> keleus: when you change the umask setting when you mount to 0000 it works for all users
[01:40] <Trigger_H> for default ntfs drivers
[01:40] <keleus> Trigger_H, drue
[01:40] <keleus> true
[01:40] <Tonren> Kibou[banned] : Well... I'm using Gparted to reformat this flash memory, see?  And I delete the existing FS, then make a new partition.  But... when I make the new partition, it RE-MOUNTS the flash memory, and the old files are STILL THERE!
[01:41] <keleus> Trigger_H, twshadow101, unfortunatly i need to get going.
[01:41] <Tonren> Kibou[banned] : But the thing is that it's already unmounted when I'm gpartediting it
[01:41] <twshadow101> Trigger_H and keleus: can I change that setting?
[01:41] <twshadow101> ok
[01:41] <Trigger_H> keleus: take it easy
[01:41] <keleus> Tonren, deleting and recreating partitions do nothing
[01:41] <Tonren> Kibou[banned] : So it appears that it is not "committing" Its changes to the compact flash card.
[01:41] <UKMatt> so what is the newest CVS version of glitz and how can i compile it?
[01:41] <twshadow101> keleus: see ya
[01:41] <Tonren> keleus: Really.  I didn't know that...
[01:41] <keleus> Ahh, your mocking him
[01:42] <Kibou[banned] > Tonren: I never used gparted. have you tried to format it manually already?
[01:42] <dk06> lol
[01:42] <npodges> how do you set the default networking device from the terminal?
[01:42] <Tonren> Kibou[banned] : I don't know how.  I just tried to figure out how to format things on the command line, because I prefer to us ethe command line, btu I couldn't figure it out
[01:42] <ivx> hey if i am going to install ubuntu on a computer with dual pIII do i have to do anything special
[01:42] <Tonren> Kibou[banned] : could you walk me through the CLI for formatting?
[01:42] <Kibou[banned] > Tonren: I can try
[01:42] <Trigger_H> npodges: i told you last time you were in #ubuntu
[01:42] <dk06> anyone here use Cedegea before?
[01:43] <dk06> *cedega
[01:43] <Tonren> Kibou[banned] : Thanks.  OK.  So it's on /dev/sda1. What do I do?
[01:43] <keleus> Kibou[banned] , ..... partitions dont change filesystem, if you delete a partition, shut the machine down, restart, and make the partitions starting and ending on the same spots.... it will all still be there.
[01:43] <npodges> trigger_h sorry :-/
[01:43] <PhilH> dk06, yes
[01:43] <dk06> phil
[01:43] <Tonren> keleus: I had no idea.  THat's totally awesome
[01:43] <dk06> can u help me install it
[01:43] <Trigger_H> npodges: sudo ifconfig <INTERAFCE> <UP/DOWN> (for on or off)
[01:43] <PhilH> quite possibly
[01:43] <dk06> i have the tar
[01:43] <dk06> and i untared it
[01:43] <dk06> what do i do now
[01:43] <Kibou[banned] > keleus: ...
[01:43] <Trigger_H> npodges: ifconfig to list the interfaces
[01:43] <PhilH> dko6, join #sfd-flyingmonkeys
[01:43] <dk06> ill just pm u
[01:43] <PhilH> ok
[01:44] <keleus> Kibou[banned] , you need to make sure the start of the partition is in the same place though. usually you can make the end of the partition farther along the disk to enlarge the FS. you usually have to check the FS for errors to get it to realize what you did though
[01:44] <shibby> I have 386 and K7 kernel, and now i can update both of them, must i update the two ? or just K7 ( i use the k7 kernel )
[01:45] <PhilH> dk06, it isn't working
[01:45] <keleus> Kibou[banned] , and... what all this means: the partition is litterly just a table at teh beginning of the disk saying where each section lives.
[01:45] <dk06> you cant read it?
[01:45] <keleus> anyways.... im off. dont wanna be late :)
[01:45] <PhilH> dk06,nope
[01:45] <dk06> oh
[01:45] <dk06> thats because you didnt register your name
[01:45] <PhilH> dk06, i've been having trouble today
[01:45] <dk06> i guess
[01:46] <dk06> thats ok
[01:46] <dk06> lets go to a private room
[01:46] <dk06> u make one
[01:46] <PhilH> #sfd-flyingmonkeys
[01:46] <dk06> ok
[01:46] <dk06> #sfd-flyingmonkey
[01:47] <tjb891> is it possible to make wget ignore robots.txt when it does a recursive download?
[01:47] <Trigger_H> !test
[01:47] <JDStone> where do I put the .deb package so I can install it using apt-get?  Or do I have to install it some other way?
[01:47] <ubotu> Failed.
[01:47] <lupine_85> JDstone: right-click and select install... ;)
[01:47] <chibiace> tjb891: yes i think its in the manual
[01:47] <tjb891> ok
[01:47] <lupine_85> or dpkg -i <filename>
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> I want to use an HP printer on this Ubuntu machine's LPT1 from another Ubuntu Laptop connected to the same router.  Both have internet access so the net is working ... Just need some printer config help
[01:47] <tjb891> thx
[01:47] <JDStone> ahh, ok, thanks lupine_85
[01:49] <chibiace> hope this kernel update doesnt screw something up
[01:49] <jonah1980> djm62, ok i reformatted etc and i'm copying files back across - i think the reformat robbed me of some memory card space though!! but not sure - the properties say 300 and odd used mb and 600 and odd spare but it should amount to 2gb
[01:50] <djm62> jonah1980: that's really weird
[01:50] <jonah1980> djm62, oh well at least there's no weird files so thanks a lot for your help again
[01:51] <djm62> jonah1980: if I were you, and I'm not, I wouldn't be inclined to regard that memory card as /very/ trustworthy
[01:51] <jonah1980> djm62, i'm gonna go get some sleep - yeah i think you're right, i maybe won't put such important things on this card in future!! bye for now...
[01:51] <djm62> jonah1980: bonne chance
[01:51] <wall0159> hey all. I've just upgraded my PC to AMD64, and have installed Dapper. For some odd reason, there's no setenv command! Not sure which package this is part of.. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[01:53] <alex_ndc> Can anyone give me advice on how to get newer Mono packages (1.1.17) ... or at least point me to a good tutorial on building deb packages from tarballs ?
[01:53] <javiolo> is there any way to use sshfs on the gnome shared folder app ?
[01:54] <JDStone> when I try to install the debian package I just created, I receive this: dpkg: error processing lirc_0.8.0-1_i386.deb (--install):
[01:54] <JDStone>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/liblirc_client.la', which is also in package liblircclient0
[01:54] <JDStone> what do I do?
[01:58] <wall0159> Apologies - looking further on line, it appears that setenv is deprecated in favour of 'export' - has this been the case for a while (it's an older csh thing)? I'm certain I've used (un)setenv on Fedora at work..?
[01:58] <killown> algum brasileiro aqui?
[01:58] <JoseStefan> !br
[01:58] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:58] <killown> no
[02:01] <Sgeo> How do I disable the 30 mount check?
[02:01] <X-Rob> Warm Fuzzies: Bought a new dell laptop. Did the accept windows things, blah blah, updated. Inserted ubuntu 6.06 cd, booted, repartitioned, installed. Worked flawlessly.
[02:01] <X-Rob> Good works, guys.
[02:03] <phaedrus44> my hard drive is showing full but i deleted a bunch of stuff....what should i do now?
[02:03] <turbomatic> hi
[02:04] <chibiace> phaedrus44: empty your trash
[02:04] <phaedrus44> uh..how do i do that?
[02:05] <chibiace> phaedrus44: the trash icon on the lower panel?
[02:05] <phaedrus44> i use fluxbox
[02:05] <turbomatic> I have connected my ubuntu box to a network CUPS printer, but it seems that after a few seconds being connected, the Ubuntu printer becomes paused, and no print jobs make it to the CUPS server or the printer
[02:05] <turbomatic> I also see "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" on http://localhost:631/printers/ on the Ubuntu box
[02:05] <chibiace> phaedrus44: you were deleting with rm?
[02:05] <phaedrus44> yah
[02:06] <turbomatic> resuming the printer doesn't help because it pauses again in a short while
[02:06] <chibiace> phaedrus44: perhaps its not updating the numbers, reboot?
[02:06] <phaedrus44> yeah m,abye......ill do that
[02:07] <bungopolis> I'm on a fresh install of 6.01.1 LTS server (AMD64) with a RAID1 configuration and I'm getting  "raid array is not clean -- starting background reconstruction" at every boot. I was told in #linux it could be a shutdown script issue. Any ideas?
[02:08] <chibiace> bungopolis: i have no exp with raid but quite possibly it is the shutdown script not doing its job properly. get any Failed when your shutting down?
[02:08] <bungopolis> chibiace: nope, no alerts at shutdown
[02:09] <RagingBull> I have a few questions about Ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[02:09] <bungopolis> RagingBull: ask away
[02:10] <len> is it just me or system update is really slow???
[02:10] <printk> change your repos
[02:10] <turbomatic> I see this in the cups error_log:  Print file was not accepted (client-error-bad-request)!
[02:10] <printk> rather your mirror i mean
[02:11] <RagingBull> bungopolis: I sent you a private message
[02:11] <silverfox> does anyone here uses kopete + xmms ?
[02:11] <len> I'm dling 1kb<
[02:11] <silverfox> i want the plugin for kopete :P
[02:11] <linux1> wondering if i should blindly install the glx driver update like i did the xorg core update lastime.  In other words should i be foolish with ubuntu upgrades once again?
[02:11] <lupine_85> yes :)
[02:11] <bungopolis> RagingBull: please ask your question in the main room
[02:11] <lupine_85> foolish==up to date
[02:11] <RagingBull> ok then
[02:12] <RagingBull> well, I am using a mac and am wondering if I could install Ubuntu on it
[02:12] <Sgeo> Be back in ~30min all
[02:12] <lupine_85> !PPC
[02:12] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[02:12] <RagingBull> so, that's a yes
[02:12] <bungopolis> RagingBull: is it a PPC or Intel mac?
[02:12] <javiolo> ragingbull its possible
[02:12] <RagingBull> PPC
[02:12] <javiolo> Im right now on a mac mini
[02:13] <RagingBull> me too
[02:13] <javiolo> running ubuntu...
[02:13] <RagingBull> so, you're my man then
[02:13] <RagingBull> I can still use Ubuntu AND Mac, correct?
[02:13] <javiolo> its easy to install
[02:13] <linux1> sheesh just get a old p3 1 ghz and run ubuntu on that
[02:13] <javiolo> just insert the cd, and press c
[02:14] <javiolo> and follow the installation
[02:14] <JoseStefan> linux1, i did today's xorg update, flawless
[02:14] <RagingBull> but, I can still switch OS'?
[02:14] <linux1> Jose: thanks
[02:14] <JoseStefan> linux1, and yes, i have already restarted :P
[02:14] <RagingBull> how do I switch between the two?
[02:14] <javiolo> ragingbull yes, but I have only ubuntu on this macmini not osx
[02:14] <chibiace> there was an xorg update? i only got kernel updates
[02:15] <linux1> glx driver update
[02:15] <JoseStefan> chibiace, true, meant nvidia glx
[02:15] <chibiace> ah
[02:15] <JoseStefan> chibiace: good point, my mind was somewhere else
[02:15] <linux1> hopefully chromium wont crash anymore
[02:16] <chibiace> heh that game is insane
[02:16] <RagingBull> javiolo: how do I switch then?
[02:16] <chibiace> i gotta reboot sometime
[02:17] <javiolo> ragingbull http://www.philroche.net/archives/osx-and-ubuntu-dual-boot/
[02:17] <eugman> Ok, is there a way to roll back to a previous kernel? The most recent update broke nvidia. I did a reconfig and the nv drivers work but the nvidia drivers don't seem to.
[02:17] <kads> how can i speed up network printing from winxp
[02:18] <eugman> A way preferably that can be done from the command line.
[02:18] <cafuego> Buy a printer with a non-crap XP driver.
[02:18] <j2daosh> what is the application that will allow me to have 7 different desktops?
[02:18] <j2daosh> there is one application that changes inittab and will allow me to run gui's on tty's other then 7
[02:19] <matt_> Why did the chicken cross the road?
[02:19] <j2daosh> it starts with an "e"
[02:19] <eugman> Ok, is there a way to roll back to a previous kernel? The most recent update broke nvidia. I did a reconfig and the nv drivers work but the nvidia drivers don't seem to.
[02:19] <eugman> whoops
[02:19] <kads> how can i speed up network printing from winxp
[02:19] <eugman> Though I had went to #ubuntu-unregged
[02:19] <JoseStefan> eugman, did you upgrade both the kernel and the driver?
[02:20] <eugman> JoseStefan, the update manager only listed the kernel.
[02:20] <eugman> Should a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade fix things?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> eugman: Are you running 686 kernel?
[02:20] <j2daosh> anyone?
[02:21] <JoseStefan> eugman, are you using the nvidia driver, or the xorg nv driver?
[02:21] <eugman> Jack_Sparrow, don't know.
[02:21] <phaedrus44> can someone help me figure out why my 5 gig drive is full?   my installation is on the drive and my only users home directory is empty yet the 5 gigs is full....dont get it
[02:21] <eugman> JoseStefan, Nvidia. Nv works witht he kernel although it looks a little off.
[02:22] <no0tic> my wireless card doesn't work with wep encrypted nets... what can I do?
[02:22] <phaedrus44> no0tic   what card is it?
[02:22] <JoseStefan> eugman, put the results of this on the pastebin: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> eugman: I have seen the upgrade hose the nvidia driver for the 686 kernel .. DOnt know how to roll it back but using the 386 gets the res back until a fix is found
[02:22] <no0tic> phaedrus44, ipw3945
[02:23] <bnovc> i was wondering if anyone knew how to get windows in gaim to stop fading in and out even after you've seen the newest message
[02:23] <eugman> JoseStefan, is there a way to do that from the command like or will I need to reconfig xserver to use the nv drivers?
[02:23] <eugman> er, command line
[02:23] <JoseStefan> the pastebin from CLI? not sure
[02:24] <JoseStefan> eugman, the output is not long, you can just type the version # for me, instead of paste
[02:24] <eugman> ok
[02:24] <eugman> one moment
[02:25] <javiolo> pastebin from the cli ? http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/16545.html
[02:25] <no0tic> phaedrus44, it is an intel centrino core duo
[02:26] <eugman> 1.0.8762+26.15.11-3 0
[02:26] <eugman> whoops
[02:26] <JoseStefan> eugman, ok, i have 1.0.8762+<IP_ADDRESS>-4 dapper
[02:26] <eugman> 1.0.8762+<IP_ADDRESS>-3 0
[02:27] <eugman> so, do an update and stuff?
[02:27] <JoseStefan> eugman you might want to try the update
[02:27] <JoseStefan> eugman, afaik you have 'yesterdays' version
[02:28] <PhilH> bnovc, you somtimes need to type in the text entry box
[02:28] <SurfnKid> !dwg
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dwg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <SurfnKid> whats a good cad viewer
[02:28] <JoseStefan> eugman: check this too: apt-cache policy linux-image-$(uname -r)
[02:28] <bnovc> PhilH: that does stop it, but is there a fix w/o?
[02:28] <billytwowilly> so yah. I think I discovered a bug in the ubuntu non livecd installer...
[02:28] <JoseStefan> !bug
[02:28] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[02:29] <jvai> anybody uses screem web editor? is it good?
[02:30] <nailbags>  /part
[02:30] <billytwowilly> lame. I have to register to report a bug. so not happening..
[02:30] <nailbags> oops
[02:30] <eugman> Yeah, nvidia updated. Whats the command to restart the coputer?
[02:30] <basbryan> shutdown -r?
[02:30] <eugman> let's see
[02:30] <JoseStefan> eugman: ctrl+alt+del
[02:30] <jake45> can someone tell me the easiest way to get my screen resolution to 1280 by1024  ubuntu wont recognize my card
[02:30] <javiolo> jvai try bluefish or nvu
[02:31] <jvai> they r bettr?
[02:31] <jvai> i was reading reviews of those last night, well of bluefish
[02:31] <javiolo> I dont know the one you use
[02:31] <jvai> yea, nvu was n the reviews also
[02:31] <mmaraxx> hi all
[02:32] <PhilH> bnovc
[02:32] <PhilH> bnovc, open up your preferences dialogue
[02:33] <PhilH> bnovc: look for Message Notification under Plugins
[02:33] <PhilH> bnovc: the notification removal check boxes should help
[02:34] <eternalswd> how do I do crc checks?
[02:34] <Wanted> hellu ubuntuworld
[02:34] <JoseStefan> eternalswd, md5 ?
[02:35] <bnovc> PhilH: ah, well my gf likes the notification but has been complaining to me that it blinks inappropriately
[02:35] <PhilH> eternalswd, crc32?
[02:35] <PhilH> eternalswd, md5sum would probably be better though
[02:35] <Wanted> my problem is thath in normal user, after update kernel and reboot...the link such as synaptic in system->administrator not present(sorry for my english)
[02:36] <SurfnKid> whats a good dwg viewer ??
[02:36] <eternalswd> JoseStefan, PhilH is md5sum a program?
[02:36] <JoseStefan> eternalswd, yes
[02:36] <PhilH> bnovc, yeah, don't want it flashing inappropriately at your GF
[02:36] <Luakagon> I installed an embedded .pdf viewer with automatix but it's not working, how can I remove it?
[02:36] <eternalswd> okay, thanks
[02:36] <PhilH> with automatix i guess
[02:36] <JoseStefan> eternalswd, md5sum --help
[02:37] <Luakagon> automatix didn't work
[02:37] <JoseStefan> eternalswd, as running it without parameters will do 'nothing' forcing you to exit with ctrl+c
[02:37] <Luakagon> heh
[02:37] <Luakagon> the solution - go to plugin panel on browser configuration and remove the pdf one
[02:37] <bnovc> PhilH: ;)
[02:37] <eternalswd> okay, thanks again
[02:38] <Trae> How do you change the icon in Gnome for the "Main Menu"   [Note: NOT Menu Bar]
[02:38] <bnovc> every little thing that doesnt work in linux for her makes her go nuts cause i put ubuntu on her computer
[02:38] <toresbe> Hello, I have noticed upon upgrading from ...some previous Ubuntu distibution - to Dapper, that the Lock Screen button on the Places or System menu has disappeared
[02:38] <bnovc> i have most of it working though...totem wouldnt play her mp3s and she flipped out, so i got her to install mplayer and onw i think she only hates the blinking and the enormous size of the gnome desktop icons and i dont know how to fixeitehr
[02:38] <Trae> Also, if anyone knows how to remove Kubuntu splash from my Ubuntu, I'd appreciate help with that.
[02:38] <Trae> heh
[02:38] <toresbe> Is there a way to return it?
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> If someone has a dual-boot Ubuntu/Windows, can a virtualization program be used to "boot" the existing Windows installation from within Ubuntu, or do you have to install it as a virtual image for that?
[02:38] <PhilH> bnovc, heh, never has a man been so commited to filing bug reports ;-)
[02:39] <toresbe> bnovc: Maybe you should've just installed the gstreamer mp3 plugins in stead?
[02:39] <PhilH> tonyyarusso, sort or, but it's not advisable
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> PhilH: How come?
[02:39] <jrib> Trae: usplash?
[02:40] <Trae> jrib, yeah I think that's what it is.
[02:40] <harris2004> i am always wondering whats ubuntu??? alunix os?
[02:40] <PhilH> tonyyarusso, something to do with direct disk access, and of course the driver profile will be all wrong
[02:40] <JoseStefan> !ubuntu
[02:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[02:40] <jrib> Trae: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so   and then   sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[02:40] <harris2004> oh so its os
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> PhilH: Hmm. 'k.
[02:41] <jvai> lol
[02:41] <Trae> jrib, got it ;) danke
[02:41] <eternalswd> okay, the value I was given for the file by the server was F2D6D960.  the value I got from md5sum is 4fdfe7ac46db292000670dc3f5bcbf34 so how do I compare the two?
[02:41] <mournsanity> Is there an easy way to install a new gnome splash screen? Like with a GUI program?
[02:41] <jrib> mournsanity: like gnome-splashscreen-manager ?
[02:41] <PhilH> eternalswd, if you're using crc on the server then use crc32 on your end to
[02:42] <mournsanity> ah, there we go
[02:42] <Trae> jrib, one last one.... how do I get gdm to be default DM again?
[02:42] <eternalswd> okay, thanks
[02:42] <mournsanity> thanks
[02:42] <Trae> jrib, ;)
[02:42] <JoseStefan> eternalswd, the server is providing another type of hash/sum
[02:42] <PhilH> eternalswd, crc32 filename
[02:42] <Milktea> Does anyone here use limewire on Ubuntu?
[02:42] <jrib> Trae: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:42] <Trae> jrib, you are too kind sir
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> mournsanity: I'm not sure, but the Gnome Art Manager might do splash screens.
[02:42] <Trae> jrib, danke
[02:42] <Milktea> Limewire can't find my JRE
[02:42] <jrib> Trae: np
[02:42] <Milktea> :(
[02:42] <NthDegree> Milktea: Limewire is not good
[02:42] <Milktea> Why not?
[02:42] <JoseStefan> PhilH, he might need a pkg for that
[02:42] <NthDegree> Milktea:  Get Frostwire
[02:42] <Milktea> Frostwire?
[02:42] <eternalswd> okay, thanks got it.
[02:43] <Trae> jrib, as payment, feel free to listen to my bands tunes for free on theinterference.com  *chuckle*
[02:43] <MichaelS> anyone else run into a scenario where you get 5~ printed out in a terminal window when pressing ctrl+pg up or ctrl+pg down?
[02:43] <NthDegree> Milktea:  Limewire had content restrictions added in and god knows what
[02:43] <jrib> Trae: ok thank you :)
[02:43] <JoseStefan> !frostwire > Milktea
[02:43] <NthDegree> Milktea:  so the Limewire peeps forked another one called Frostwire
[02:43] <Milktea> Where can I get Frostwire, and does it connect to the Limewire server?
[02:43] <Trae> We've got some kick butt stuff we are going into the studio soon again to record
[02:43] <Trae> can't wait
[02:43] <PhilH> NthDegree, what kind of content restrictions?
[02:43] <JoseStefan> Milktea, read the msg from ubotu
[02:43] <terlmann> help
[02:44] <Milktea> okay thanks
[02:44] <NthDegree> PhilH: they may be forced to place DRM on it and restrict illegal mp3 downloads
[02:44] <PhilH> NthDegree, point being that at present it has no such restrictions
[02:44] <phaedrus44> jopin #mythtv-users
[02:45] <PhilH> NthDegree, careful with the FUD, even if frostwire is a better product
[02:45] <Wanted> my problem is thath in normal user, after update kernel and reboot...the link such as synaptic in system->administrator not present(sorry for my english)
[02:45] <NthDegree> PhilH: wrong, it has content filtering enabled unless you select otherwise when you 1st set it up
[02:45] <JoseStefan> FrostWire might be easier to install in ubuntu
[02:45] <PhilH> NthDegree, when you say content filtering exactly what do you mean?
[02:45] <jvai> anybody use the demonoid website?
[02:45] <NthDegree> PhilH: anything without a license not appearing on search results
[02:45] <PhilH> the question it asks you about allowing you access to non CC licensed media?
[02:46] <Trae> bbiab, restarting GDM
[02:46] <Ginks> with Ubuntu even install on a machine without 128mb of ram?
[02:46] <Ginks> err, 192
[02:46] <Kibou[banned] > jvai: why?
[02:46] <Ginks> got an old desktop I figured I'd use it on instead of XP
[02:46] <terlmann> i have a major ubuntu ptoblem! i tried to run msudo nautilus as user terlmann but the thing ran as "hal" and now my screen is whacked out,the bottom menu are 3 inches from the bottom of the screen,and the mouse pointer has to locate 1 inch BELOW the dialog i wanna click... has anyone got a solution?
[02:46] <NthDegree> PhilH: uh the question it now asks about any non-licensed media yeah
[02:46] <jvai> demonoid uses bittorrent for p2p, some1 suggested to me
[02:46] <CrippsFX> Ginks, you can do it ... you'll probably want to use a very lightweight window manager though, like fluxbox
[02:46] <Ginks> the desktop runs XP fine, dunno why Ubuntu would be more demanding
[02:46] <Kibou[banned] > jvai: it does
[02:46] <JoseStefan> Ginks, maybe, consider Xubuntu, which has a smaller memory footprint. And consider the alternate install CD (instead of desktop cd)
[02:46] <Ginks> k, cool CrippsFX
[02:47] <Ginks> k
[02:47] <MichaelS> has nobody else experienced that?
[02:47] <CrippsFX> Ginks, yeah, Xubuntu is fine too because XFCE4 is aimed towards being a lightweight wm
[02:47] <jadacyrus> Okay I just installed Xubuntu over normal Ubuntu, and now im getting a Grub Error 15.
[02:47] <Ginks> k, cool
[02:48] <Wanted> wanted   tty1         2006-09-15 02:12
[02:48] <Wanted> wanted   :0           2006-09-15 01:50
[02:48] <jvai> is fluxbox good on dapper/
[02:48] <Wanted> sorry
[02:48] <Wanted> my problem is thath in normal user, after update kernel and reboot...the link such as synaptic in system->administrator not present(sorry for my english)
[02:48] <Trae> jrib, thanks again... you don't know much about gnome do you?
[02:48] <fildo> fluxbox is da shiznit
[02:48] <Trae> NthDegree, heh, weren't you just on a KDE channel yesterday?  ;)
[02:49] <jvai> fluxbox makes dapper.. lighter?
[02:49] <NthDegree> yeah
[02:49] <bnovc> toresbe: i probably should have but i didnt realize it was a necessity until afterward...i assume ubuntu would have come with it and i am used tomplayer a lot more
[02:49] <NthDegree> doesn't mean I haven't used gnome before XD
[02:49] <Trae> NthDegree, nod... :)
[02:49] <Trae> I try out KDE like once every month or two... and come crawling back to GNOME
[02:50] <jadacyrus> Okay I just installed Xubuntu over normal Ubuntu, and now im getting a Grub Error 15.
[02:50] <jvai> lol
[02:50] <Trae> I've been doing that for about 6 years now
[02:50] <NthDegree> other way round for me
[02:50] <Trae> every since I left KDE for good
[02:50] <PhilH> bnovc, mplayer is horrible from a UI point of view though, i certainly wouldn't force someone to use it if totem were an option
[02:50] <Trae> NthDegree, hehe
[02:50] <jvai> i only like kde in knppix.. they do it right
[02:50] <Trae> NthDegree, yeah, they both have good points and bad points.
[02:50] <bnovc> PhilH: why do you think so?
[02:50] <Trae> NthDegree, both suck  *sigh*
[02:50] <Trae> NthDegree, but are better than anything else
[02:51] <bnovc> i'm not really familiar with totem at all so maybe ill fix her totem later and set that up
[02:51] <hav0k> hey, does anyone know anything about the flashplugin?  cause im not getting any sound
[02:51] <Trae> triple my money back if I don't 100% like KDE or GNOME!
[02:51] <jrib> !flash > hav0k
[02:51] <Trae> that goes for anyone here
[02:51] <Trae> heh
[02:51] <Trae> jrib, oooh, new bot features?
[02:51] <bnovc> oh yea, flash plugin was another thing the gf was bitching about
[02:51] <coriander> I'm trying to compile Wireshark (packet sniffer) on Dapper and it needs gtk+.  Is there a package for gtk+ that I can install thru synaptic or should I follow the instructions for manual installation on gtk.org?
[02:51] <jrib> Trae: new bot
[02:51] <NthDegree> GNOME is too unintegrated for me, and KDE needs to make emselves faster so they can rid themselves of the anti-KDE propaganda people talk out of their arse
[02:51] <PhilH> bnovc, totem is just a well designed player for video and a lesser extend music, otherwise stick with rythmbox, banshee or XMMS
[02:51] <Trae> jrib, sweet
[02:52] <azureal> lo; i compiled version 2.12.3 of glib from source, before realizing that a lot of things depend on my [already installed]  glib 2.10.3  -- should i (and if so, how) uninstall the one i just compiled?
[02:52] <Trae> NthDegree, #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <azureal> is it sudo make uninstall?
[02:54] <Milktea> NthDegree,
[02:54] <knapper> if cuking love ou guys
[02:54] <theBishop> what do you guys use to keep your ipod updated?
[02:54] <Milktea> frostwire
[02:54] <Milktea> can't find my JRE
[02:54] <NthDegree> you need Sun JRE
[02:54] <Milktea> I have it
[02:54] <theBishop> rhythmbox can play songs, but doesn't seem to copy TO the ipod
[02:54] <terlmann> help?
[02:54] <Milktea> I have 1.5.x
[02:54] <NthDegree> off the Sun website, latest one?
[02:54] <NthDegree> that's old
[02:54] <NthDegree> Sun Java is 5.0
[02:54] <Milktea> it says 1.4 or newer on the frostwire
[02:55] <Luakagon> Can someone please assist me with my synaptic?  it's not getting the right repositories
[02:55] <NthDegree> Milktea: get proper Sun Java off their site
[02:55] <hav0k> theBishop, i use gtkpod
[02:55] <Milktea> ok
[02:55] <micr0jackson> is there any way to install Ubuntu from a different distros command line?
[02:55] <RobNyc|Ubuntu> Any ASUS users here using Vista RC1?
[02:55] <jrib> Luakagon: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link to your post
[02:55] <hav0k> theBishop, yeah, rhythmbox cant transfter stuff yet
[02:55] <Ginks> does Ubuntu support the Netgear WG111v2 wireless usb adapter?
[02:55] <Milktea> What do I download?
[02:55] <theBishop> i see Banshee can do it
[02:55] <jrib> Luakagon: or if you want to just recreate a new one, checkout the link ubotu is about to send you:
[02:56] <jrib> !easysource > Luakagon
[02:56] <theBishop> its pretty unbelievable that rhythmbox doesn't have this obvious feature
[02:56] <hav0k> theBishop, yeah, i think banshee can, but rhythmbox will eventually.  it does suck that they left that off
[02:56] <bobbobowitz> Can anyone help me setup AIGLX?  I followed this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133772 and there weren't any problems, except the line "sudo cp /usr/lib/libdrm.so.1 /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2" which said so.1 didn't exist.  Now things open slowly, for example, the login screen loads block by block (but it only takes a second still)
[02:56] <Milktea> NthDegree, which download should I download
[02:57] <NthDegree> 1 second
[02:57] <jvai> how do i back up my config? do i go to *computer-home-then copy home? or do i go to my home dir & copy all files from it?
[02:57] <NthDegree> http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[02:57] <NthDegree> Milktea: Linux
[02:58] <Milktea> thanks
[02:58] <cappicard> this is irritating. every time I reboot into ubuntu (previously in windows), I keep having to plug in my speakers into the rear output jack (was the front output jack) of my audigy 2 value.
[02:58] <NthDegree> if you have x86_64 you want Linux x64 aswell
[02:59] <hav0k> is 1.4.2-02 the latest java?
[02:59] <Milktea> NthDegree, i looked a little more into it
[02:59] <Milktea> and
[02:59] <Milktea> i only needed to do a sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:59] <jvai> how do i back up my config? do i go to *computer-home-then copy home? or do i go to my home dir & copy all files from it?
[02:59] <Milktea> and select another alternative
[02:59] <terlmann> i have a major ubuntu ptoblem! i tried to run msudo nautilus as user terlmann but the thing ran as "hal" and now my screen is whacked out,the bottom menu are 3 inches from the bottom of the screen,and the mouse pointer has to locate 1 inch BELOW the dialog i wanna click... has anyone got a solution?
[02:59] <NthDegree> heh that's old stuff usually
[03:00] <NthDegree> very insecure
[03:00] <NthDegree> since it isn't open source
[03:00] <terlmann> help!
[03:00] <NthDegree> on closed source Java versions you want the latest gear to be secure
[03:00] <micr0jackson> is there a way to install Ubuntu from a different distros command line?  (my cd burner is busted) ?
[03:00] <NthDegree> terlmann, restart the PC
[03:00] <Intangir> the most annoying thing about linux ???? The STUPID SLOW KEYS shit.. how do i turn off this crap
[03:01] <NthDegree> Intangir: same feature as Windows
[03:01] <Intangir> im using a graphics program and have to hold down shift to add to my selection, but this STUPID slowkeys crap keeps poping up asking if i want to enable slowkeys, i said NO like 20 times now
[03:01] <NthDegree> it's called stickykeys
[03:01] <DanaG> Aargh, my Xgl crashes whenever I switc to a TTY.
[03:01] <Intangir> how do i turn it off. for ever. i dont want it to keeep on freaking ASKING me
[03:01] <Intangir> i have to hold down the damn key
[03:01] <Intangir> the most annoying crap ever..
[03:01] <NthDegree> Intangir, you are slow on the keyboard so it thinks you are disabled XD
[03:01] <Intangir> shouldnt it just ask once and then shut up? i pressed help and there is nothing in help about turning it off forever
[03:02] <Intangir> i gotta hold shift to add to my selection
[03:02] <Intangir> so i hold shift for more than 8 seconds
[03:02] <Intangir> i NEED to be able to do that
[03:02] <Intangir> without it asking me everytime
[03:02] <micr0jackson> anyone? install ubuntu from different distros shell?
[03:02] <Intangir> does anyone know how to turn it off?
[03:02] <terlmann> Nthdegree I did that.
[03:03] <bobbobowitz> micr0jackson, I saw a way to install it over the network
[03:03] <jrib> Intangir: system > preferences > keyboard > accessibility > filters, gives me an option for it but it is grayed out on my system
[03:03] <azureal> Intangir, which desktop?
[03:03] <terlmann> help?
[03:03] <bobbobowitz> but that required a previous linux install as the server
[03:03] <NthDegree> terlmann, it's gksudo for graphical apps there is a warning about using sudo for the wrong things
[03:04] <Mangix> !airport
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about airport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Intangir> i think i got it
[03:04] <Mangix> awwwwww
[03:04] <Intangir> i disabled accessability options
[03:04] <azureal> airport =P
[03:04] <Intangir> hopefully that fixes it
[03:04] <Mangix> anyone know of any airport drivers for Ubuntu?
[03:04] <terlmann> yea... thanks... just a noob ... NOW how do I fix it?
[03:04] <CrippsFX> Mangix, loking for info on the airport wireless card? (broadcom bcm43xx)
[03:04] <cafuego> CrippsFX: Check the wiki.
[03:04] <djancak> why is apache not set up to parse php by default on dapper drake :(
[03:04] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[03:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:05] <CrippsFX> Mangix, search google for "bcm43xx +ubuntu" it'll come up with the wiki
[03:05] <NthDegree> terlmann, easy just close down X server, login to the text console, do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:05] <Mangix> ty
[03:05] <chr1s_> has anyone experienced there sound volume mysteriously fluctuating?
[03:05] <Trae> anyone here know how to change the icon that is used in "Main Menu" on the panel.  {Not Menu Bar}
[03:05] <CrippsFX> cafuego, no. I'm speaking english. Had I been looking for info, I would have said "I'm looking for info" ... with no '?'
[03:05] <pianoboy3333> Is there a way to change the character banner uses
[03:06] <cafuego> CrippsFX: Waar heb je het over?
[03:06] <bobbobowitz> you still there micr0?
[03:06] <Matrikz> what's a good burning program?
[03:06] <CrippsFX> cafuego, I *think* that's dutch ... but "what have you had over?" makes no sense to me.
[03:06] <azureal> ?cafuego  crei que hablaras espanol
[03:06] <CrippsFX> Matrikz, k3b
[03:07] <cafuego> azureal: Das versteh ich nicht.
[03:07] <phaedrus44> usbvision driver dissapear in 6.06?
[03:07] <azureal> oh, german.... that i do no tknow
[03:07] <cafuego> CrippsFX: *muaha*
[03:07] <CrippsFX> cafuego, was I right in thinking dutch?
[03:07] <cafuego> CrippsFX: Yup, spot on :-)
[03:07] <CrippsFX> cafuego, was my literal translation spot on too? ;)
[03:08] <cafuego> CrippsFX: not quite, the 'had' should be 'it'
[03:08] <Matrikz> ty CrippsFX
[03:08] <CrippsFX> ahh.
[03:08] <cafuego> 'where have you it over'
[03:08] <CrippsFX> Matrikz, np.
[03:08] <CrippsFX> cafuego, k. now what's the idiomatic translation? :P
[03:08] <azureal> lol, what doest that mean
[03:08] <cafuego> CrippsFX: "what are you on about?" ;-)
[03:08] <pianoboy3333> Is there a way to change the character banner uses
[03:09] <CrippsFX> cafuego, ahh.
[03:09] <cafuego> they're too small, maybe use 4 or 5 ;-)
[03:09] <CrippsFX> cafuego, just ranting about how you misunderstood what I said when I mentioned broadcom :P
[03:09] <CrippsFX> lol.
[03:09] <hav0k> is there a way to change the sound output for flash?
[03:10] <stealth> Can someone help me with something?, im kinda new to Ubuntu
[03:10] <cafuego> CrippsFX: yeah, hiding ones reply behind a foreign language is nice in such cases, but then having to explain it kind of spoils the effect <heh>
[03:10] <CrippsFX> I'm going to be eating a lot of rice next semester ...
[03:10] <denver> stealth, i'm sure they can if you will just state what you need help with
[03:10] <jrib> stealth: maybe, just ask the channel your question and see
[03:11] <stealth> Err, i dont get how to install things, What do i do, i tried reading the instructions, but i only get lost.
[03:11] <CrippsFX> cafuego, ah, yes. darn people who are *just* too smart ... but not diverse enough to know the foreign language ;)
[03:11] <CrippsFX> stealth, what are you trying to install?
[03:11] <cynical> stealth: yes what software?
[03:11] <stealth> umm, let me check the folder
[03:11] <stealth> Gaim Xfire Addon
[03:11] <CrippsFX> if you downloaded stuff to install, you've already missed the point.
[03:12] <whiter> is there an ubuntu binary deb for rhythmbox 0.95 ?
[03:13] <CrippsFX> stealth, what is the extension on the file you are using to install?
[03:13] <stealth> .tar.gz
[03:13] <cynical> stealth: It says in the install file that you should first do ./configure --with-gaim=/PATH/TO/GAIM, then make, and finally make install
[03:13] <cynical> stealth: do you know how to use the terminal?
[03:13] <CrippsFX> stealth, yeah ... they confused me at first too ...
[03:13] <stealth> nope
[03:13] <OofCZer0> question for anyone who can help, ive just installed ubuntu, and when i restarted after i took the cd out it didnt give me the option to choose windows or ubuntu
[03:14] <OofCZer0> any suggestions
[03:14] <OofCZer0> ???
[03:14] <CrippsFX> OofCZer0, choose ubuntu.
[03:14] <jrib> cynical: remember build-essential and deps too
[03:14] <OofCZer0> CrippsFX it doesnt give me the option
[03:14] <cynical> stealth: yes jrib has a point, you may need some dependencies
[03:14] <OofCZer0> CrippsFX it just boots windows
[03:14] <CrippsFX> OofCZer0, oh, sorry, I missed the "doesn't" there.
[03:14] <cynical> stealth: open up a terminal (applications > accessories)
[03:14] <stealth> ok
[03:15] <CrippsFX> OofCZer0, stick in the ubuntu cd, and boot it up in rescue mode.
[03:15] <cynical> stealth: then type "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[03:15] <cynical> stealth: we can find the other dependencies while compiling
[03:15] <OofCZer0> CrippsFX anything after that or just do that then restart and take the cd out?
[03:16] <cynical> stealth: after thats done change to the folder of the plugin you just extracted using "cd Desktop/foldername"
[03:16] <codecaine> how can I made my whole desktop transparent?
[03:16] <jrib> stealth: and so you aren't scared away from ubuntu, you usually install things from online repositories using applications > add/remove or system > administration > synaptic.  That's the best way to install things.  But it happens that your particular program hasn't been packaged for ubuntu yet
[03:16] <CrippsFX> OofCZer0, yep ... you're going to need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst  ... and then you're going to need to make sure grub installed to your mbr
[03:17] <stealth> hmmm, im getting "Command not found"
[03:17] <cynical> stealth: what are you typing?
[03:17] <stealth> sude apt-get install build-essential
[03:17] <OofCZer0> CrippsFX so u know i have never used ubuntu or any type of linux before this so i dont really know what your talking about, if you coudl explain that in a little more detail it would be much appreciated
[03:17] <cynical> stealth: its "sudo"
[03:18] <stealth> ahh thanks
[03:18] <stealth> ok put in my password
[03:18] <cynical> stealth: ok, now change to the directory of the folder you just extracted
[03:18] <cynical> stealth: cd Desktop/foldername
[03:18] <jasz> hello all
[03:18] <CrippsFX> OofCZer0, when you boot up, you will need to run "nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" and add an entry for ubuntu in there ... just a moment and I'll find you a grub how to
[03:19] <jasz> i'm trying to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse but it requires liblame0 ... which is not installable... i do have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled.. so I dont know where to go from here.. any ideas?
[03:19] <OofCZer0> CrippsFX thanks
[03:19] <stealth> ok, lost me
[03:20] <stealth> So i change the folder i had it in?
[03:20] <stealth> or i move it
[03:20] <iqon> is it possible to have a partitioned loop device?
[03:20] <cynical> CrippsFX: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10#grub
[03:20] <cynical> stealth: no no, once you are in the terminal, you are in your home folder
[03:20] <stealth> o
[03:20] <iceman24k> anyone have any idea why i cannot reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[03:20] <cynical> stealth: if you type the command "ls" you will see the documents in your home folder
[03:21] <cynical> stealth: you need to move to the folder you just extracted to, which I'm assuming is on your desktop somewhere
[03:21] <CrippsFX> cynical, no, that one's gentoo-specific. I found a generic one already.
[03:21] <lostinc> Is there any software that allows the editing of MOV files?
[03:21] <iceman24k> i have done sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and none of my changes take effect
[03:21] <jasz> ~liblame0
[03:21] <cynical> CrippsFX: lol, everything besides emerge is quite helpful
[03:21] <jrib> jasz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and give us a link please
[03:21] <stealth> ok i did
[03:21] <jasz> jrib .. ok
[03:22] <bon> a total nebie question for you how do i burn an avi file to dvd so it plays in a dvd player
[03:22] <CrippsFX> OofCZer0, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html   ... or you can check out the link cynical posted ... another option is to check out the "Linux Documentation Project"
[03:22] <iceman24k> !nvidia
[03:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:22] <cynical> stealth: ok good, now that you are in the directory, type ./configure --with-gaim=/usr/bin/gaim
[03:23] <cynical> stealth: and let me know what error messages come up (most likely there will be a few)
[03:23] <CrippsFX> cynical, ahh ... I see ... I just read a little further. gentoo docs are good because they explain just about every freaking thing there is to the process.
[03:23] <tyler_d> anyone know if I would be able to install all of the macromedia plugins?
[03:23] <cynical> CrippsFX: yes exactly. Thats where I first learned how grub interpreted hard drives
[03:23] <Ginks> anyone using photoshop cs or cs 2 with ubuntu and wine?
[03:23] <jasz> pastebin must have a lot of traffic
[03:23] <CrippsFX> cynical, I did it by setting up my dual boot systems ;)
[03:24] <stealth> "No such file or Directory
[03:24] <stealth> "
[03:24] <cynical> stealth: oh boy
[03:24] <jrib> tyler_d: adobe/macromedia has not developed shockwave for linux, but flash 7 is available
[03:24] <jrib> !flash > tyler_d
[03:24] <cynical> CrippsFX: do you happen to know where gaim is installed by default?
[03:24] <jasz> flash 9 was tried today for linux....
[03:24] <cynical> CrippsFX: I'm on a windows box atm so its hard for me to help this person :\
[03:24] <CrippsFX> cynical, probably in /usr/local/share somewhere
[03:24] <jasz> (the player)
[03:24] <tyler_d> jrib: thanks mang
[03:24] <bon> i got flash nine wotrking with simple tutorial
[03:24] <CrippsFX> cynical, just a secoind, I'll find it.
[03:25] <OofCZer0> CrippsFX: i dont get what im supposed to do, im at the link, i dont get what im supposed to do, sorry :-\
[03:25] <iceman24k> Anyone know why KDE would llimit me to 1024x764 resolution, even though xorg shows higher
[03:25] <cynical> stealth: one second, I cant remember where gaim is installed by default
[03:25] <jrib> tyler_d: you /can/ get shockwave and flash9 if you run firefox in wine...
[03:25] <stealth> ok
[03:25] <bon> aye
[03:25] <bon> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:26] <bon> a total nebie question for you how do i burn an avi file to dvd so it plays in a dvd player
[03:26] <CrippsFX> OofCZer0, sorry ... I'm tied up right now ... if you keep re-reading it, it'll eventually make sense.
[03:27] <CrippsFX> cynical, what's the flag for "ls" that shows where a symlink points to?
[03:27] <cynical> CrippsFX: either -s or -l I think
[03:27] <CrippsFX> cynical, kk.
[03:28] <jasz> any other pasting website? pastebin is having issues...
[03:28] <cynical> stealth: I have an idea
[03:28] <stealth> ok
[03:28] <jrib> jasz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:28] <jmoncayo> hey can somebody help me i am using rxvt with fluxbox and i want to use transparency, -tr flag gives me transparency support but how can i shade it a little bit?
[03:28] <cynical> stealth: first exit the folder by typing 'cd ..'
[03:28] <Matrikz> any burning programs other than k3b?
[03:29] <cynical> Martikz: brasero / gnomebaker are good alternatives
[03:29] <iceman24k> How do you reconfigure KDM or GDM manager ? to reset the default ?
[03:29] <jasz> pdelgado@Eva:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:29] <jasz> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[03:29] <jasz> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[03:29] <jasz> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[03:29] <stealth> ok
[03:29] <dk06> hey philh
[03:29] <mabus> What's the traditional place to store world readable files, such as a library of .chm/.pdf files I want anybody to be able to read?
[03:29] <dk06> what was that room name again
[03:29] <OofCZer0> CrippsFX so i guess i just go to that file and change it to make it say what is on the page???
[03:29] <dk06> flyingmonkeys
[03:29] <cynical> stealth: now type 'sudo mv foldername /usr/lib/gaim/'
[03:29] <jrib> mabus: your home directory is world readable by default
[03:30] <dk06> i got it
[03:30] <jasz> fuck...
[03:30] <jasz> i didnt mean to do that :(
[03:30] <mabus> jrib: Well I don't want mine to be, and it's not.
[03:30] <Matrikz> ty
[03:30] <baconbacon> tut tut
[03:30] <iceman24k> how do I reset the GDM display manager to load and not kdm ?
[03:30] <baconbacon> !language
[03:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:30] <stealth> what folder?
[03:30] <iceman24k> !gdm
[03:30] <cynical> stealth: the folder with the plugin inside it
[03:30] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB
[03:30] <jasz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23488    << here it is... sorry about the flood :(
[03:30] <mabus> jrib: Is the tradition to make a /home/pub or something?
[03:30] <cynical> stealth: the one you just exited
[03:30] <thiagoarrais> i am trying to install the development snapshot on my second hard drive (hdb), but it won't let me...
[03:30] <CrippsFX> OofCZer0, that would be a start ... keeping in mind partition scheme and such. i.e. hd(0,0) is the first partition on the first HD, hd(1,0) is the first partition on the second hd, hd(1,1) is the second partition on the second HD, etc, etc ....
[03:31] <thiagoarrais> does anyone have any idea?
[03:31] <Matrikz> hmm apt-get is a bit slow tonight
[03:31] <bon> does anyone know how to rip avi files to dvd file e.g. audio_ts video_ts
[03:31] <CrippsFX> cynical, heh ... I'm just gonna run find /usr/ gaim ;)
[03:31] <baconbacon> mabus, more like /var/pub on servers
[03:31] <iceman24k> whats commandline to reconfigure the KDM / GDM display manager ?
[03:31] <cynical> CrippsFX: lol good idea
[03:31] <mabus> baconbacon: thanks
[03:31] <Wiseguy> hey guys, whats the trick to installing flash on firefox?
[03:31] <mabus> !flash
[03:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:32] <cynical> stealth: after that type ./configure
[03:32] <jrib> jasz: you don't have dapper multiverse, only dapper-backports multiverse.  Append the word " multiverse" to the four lines that have "universe" in them but no "multiverse"
[03:32] <stealth> yea, im getting noware, it cant ifnd the folder
[03:32] <stealth> find*
[03:32] <nozorro> iceman24k: just uninstall kdm and gdm should come up automatically after that
[03:32] <thiagoarrais> wiseguy, no tricks. i just install it from the adobe installer. what are you trying to do?
[03:32] <cynical> stealth: oops
[03:32] <cynical> stealth: the folder on your desktop?
[03:32] <cynical> stealth: it should now be in libs
[03:32] <baconbacon> mabus: just saying, /var is usually the place you put stuff which can grow uncontrollably big, like log files, cache or public writable dirs.
[03:32] <CrippsFX> cynical, while that's chugging away, I'm going out for a smoke. I'll be a few mins.
[03:32] <baconbacon> doh, hes gone
[03:33] <cynical> CrippsFX: np
[03:33] <Wiseguy> thiagoarrais, i was trying to isntall through the firefox browser..
[03:33] <Wiseguy> it hasnt work on 3 of my comps
[03:33] <stealth> still cant find it
[03:33] <baconbacon> it usually works on 32 bits ubuntu
[03:33] <cynical> stealth: the folder that was on your desktop? are you saying it disappeared?
[03:33] <Wiseguy> i wonder if its because i might not have the w32 codecs installed
[03:34] <stealth> no, i put it in home
[03:34] <thiagoarrais> wiseguy: hmmm..  that never worked for me
[03:34] <stealth> extracted it in home
[03:34] <cynical> stealth: oh ok
[03:34] <jasz> jrib ... damn... i didnt see those :(
[03:34] <thiagoarrais> so i went to adobe.com and downloaded the linux version from there
[03:34] <baconbacon> Wiseguy, installing flash with firefox installer always worked for me. you can use the package flash-plugin-nonfree too i guess
[03:34] <thiagoarrais> i guess the firefox installer points to the manual installation page when it cant get it done automatically
[03:35] <jadacyrus> Okay I just installed Xubuntu over normal Ubuntu, and now im getting a Grub Error 15.
[03:35] <thiagoarrais> baconbacon: hmmm, good to know
[03:35] <bon> wiseguy: you need to use wine but its a bit slower - some people are re laaaseing a flash nine or something for linux later this yeaar i think?
[03:35] <baconbacon> !flashplugin-nonfree
[03:35] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:36] <thiagoarrais> i am trying to install the development snapshot on my second hard drive (hdb), but it won't let me...
[03:36] <thiagoarrais> the installer only shows hda...
[03:36] <dk06> phil
[03:36] <dk06> i need some serious help
[03:36] <bnovc> not joking help?
[03:36] <azureal> how do i add the location of the file glib-2.0.pc to the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH?
[03:37] <justin420> hi all. anybody help with permission denied errors while trying to use /etc/fstab? im using uid=<insert linux users name here> guid=users; and credentials=<path to credentials file>
[03:37] <bnovc> azureal: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH='/path/toglib/' ?
[03:37] <bon> wiseguy: it tells you how to install ie here and flash nine http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:37] <azureal> bnovc, is that a permanent change?
[03:37] <bnovc> azureal: no
[03:37] <bnovc> azureal: until your shell restarts
[03:37] <azureal> should i make it permanent if it's a compiling error?
[03:38] <bnovc> probably, i dont know about the requiremenst though
[03:38] <bnovc> it may just need it for linking
[03:38] <nozorro> justin420: you need to use the numbers as id, as given in /etc/passwd, /etc/group
[03:38] <bnovc> you can put it in ~/.bashrc if you're using bash
[03:39] <justin420> nozorro: so use instead of username user their user number?
[03:39] <Frederick> folks why doesnt ubuntu features the dgb info for image magick?
[03:39] <nozorro> justin420: for fstab, yes. see 'man mount'
[03:39] <thiagoarrais> any ideas for my problem with the installer?
[03:39] <justin420> nozorro: trying to mount remote share; maxtor shared storage drive. i also saw man mount.cifs
[03:40] <bryanl> is there a way to find out what memory type you have without opening the case?
[03:40] <bryanl> or rebooting?
[03:40] <fmasi> Helo i like to know if its posible to restore a EXT3 tump into a XFS file system
[03:40] <nozorro> justin420: what kind of server are the shares on?
[03:40] <bnovc> bryanl: might be able to find it in `dmesg`
[03:40] <bon> how hard is it to burn an avi file to dvd so it plays in an dvd player
[03:40] <dk06> philh
[03:40] <azureal> bnovc, oh, should it be the path to the file or the directory holding the file?
[03:40] <dk06> please replay
[03:40] <justin420> nozorro: thanks for the input, will try; but have this feeling it wont help. it says it running samba 3.22 i think
[03:41] <bon> what programs do i need
[03:41] <bnovc> bon: depends if your dvd player plays it, otherwise it wont
[03:41] <bnovc> azureal: probably directory
[03:41] <dk06> my computer is really messed up after thyat xrestart
[03:41] <bnovc> bon: most dvd players wont play it
[03:41] <dk06> it keeps freezing
[03:41] <nozorro> justin420: ah samba, that's different
[03:41] <dk06> well the mouse moves
[03:41] <maple1> DVDs are nonfree and evil\
[03:41] <dk06> but i cant do anything
[03:41] <dk06> even the ctrl alt fn functions dont do anything
[03:41] <bon> whould be good if i could have dvd menus and that
[03:41] <bnovc> bon: that wont happen from an avi
[03:42] <bnovc> you'll need to have a horrible conversion process first anyway
[03:42] <justin420> nozorro: on windows xp machine it says the partition is ntfs but i can mount it just fine using root; i would like to make it so i can save/delete/exec on the remote shares
[03:42] <bnovc> better off plugging your computer to the tv or getting it in a different format
[03:42] <bon> lol great
[03:42] <lupine_85> dvd++
[03:42] <bnovc> dvd--
[03:42] <dk06> philh
[03:42] <lupine_85> blu-ray+++
[03:42] <dk06> please
[03:42] <bnovc> lupine_85: bigger haddrives and direct connections to tvs++
[03:42] <nozorro> justin420: sorry, i'm not familiar with samba
[03:42] <bon> i was going to take the movie around to mt girls house tomorrow
[03:43] <bnovc> bon: bring a laptop then
[03:43] <lupine_85> bnovc: on-demand TV maybe
[03:43] <bnovc> i use my laptop and a cable for s-video in
[03:43] <lupine_85> on-demand HDTV, probably
[03:43] <dk06> come on man
[03:43] <bon> mmmhh
[03:43] <justin420> nozorro:no problem. at least you were nice enough to try and help me; unlike others :)
[03:43] <lupine_85> but I can't remember the last time *any* TV channel played some of my favourite films
[03:43] <azureal> bnovc, weird... both /usr/local/lib/glib-2.0 and /usr/local/share/glib-2.0 contain empty directories
[03:43] <bon> nothings ever easy
[03:44] <Wiseguy> do you guys know of any sites i can test the flash out on?
[03:44] <nozorro> Wiseguy: bloomberg.com
[03:44] <thiagoarrais> i am trying to install the development snapshot on my second hard drive (hdb), but it won't let me...
[03:44] <PhilH> dk06
[03:45] <bon> yeah but my laptopp has kubuntu on it as well so i would have to figure oue=t how to setup split screaan
[03:45] <jrib> Wiseguy: badgerbadgerbadger.com
[03:45] <bon> aaaaaaaaaaaah
[03:45] <PhilH> dk06, join #sfd-flyingmonkeys
[03:45] <bnovc> bon why would you need split screen to play the movie
[03:45] <bnovc> bon: just get something to do s-video out and plug it into her tv
[03:46] <bnovc> it will scale down the resolution a LOT but it works
[03:46] <bon> plug the laptop into the tv
[03:46] <bnovc> and it looks like normal 640x480 tv
[03:46] <bnovc> which is how i watch all my movies
[03:47] <thiagoarrais> any installation wiz here? i've got issues with installing on the second hd
[03:47] <leeyee> Hello, I need to do a presentation about Linux tomorrow morning, and till now I still have no idea about projector connection under Dapper. Any idea?
[03:47] <thiagoarrais> or better yet, edgy eft has...
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> I don't get any sound with YouTube videos (right now I'm trying the ones at ubuntuvideo.com).  What do I have to do for that?
[03:47] <bnovc> leeyee: probably wont work :P
[03:47] <bon> i will try it but if it doesnt work i will be back to EAT YOUR BABY
[03:47] <bnovc> tonyyarusso: might be because of lack of flash8 support...not sure
[03:47] <lupine_85> thiagoarrais: you're trying to install edgy?
[03:47] <leeyee> bnovc, really? I still remeber that it worked fine on SuSE 10.0
[03:48] <bnovc> bon: i'd have to get your gf pregnant before you eat it
[03:48] <PhilH> leeyee, does it connect to the vga out in the same way a monitor does?
[03:48] <thiagoarrais> yup, this mornings snapshot
[03:48] <bon> lol
[03:48] <bnovc> leeyee: newest flash player doesnt work in linux
[03:48] <lupine_85> and the error is...
[03:48] <bnovc> windows and osx only
[03:48] <lupine_85> youtube is flash 7
[03:48] <lupine_85> firefox is a git
[03:48] <thiagoarrais> i want to install it on my second harddrive
[03:48] <mortal5> has anyone in here succeded in using ffmpeg under ubuntu?
[03:48] <thiagoarrais> but the partitioner only sees hda
[03:48] <bnovc> lupine_85: ah, yea, didnt know what it used
[03:49] <leeyee> PhilH, My laptop has a s-video output, and the graphic chip is ATI9000
[03:49] <bryanl> ok... striping across multiple disks is faster than one disk even if they are on the same controller?  i should i pick up a second sata controller?
[03:49] <lupine_85> firefox uses oss by default... so running it under aoss would work fine
[03:49] <PhilH> leeyee, does the projector use s-video, does your s-video out work?
[03:49] <junkphreak> anyone ever used the ghost for linux / g4l
[03:49] <lupine_85> thiagoarrais: should teh other drive be hdb? or sd?? ?
[03:50] <thiagoarrais> hdb
[03:50] <lupine_85> can you partition it manually?
[03:50] <thiagoarrais> hmmm...
[03:50] <PhilH> thiagoarrais, so fdisk -l /dev/hdb returns what?
[03:50] <thiagoarrais> i dont really know how to do that
[03:50] <lupine_85> if you're in the alternative CD, there's a VT on alt+f2
[03:51] <lupine_85> start by doing what PhilH said
[03:51] <bon> bnovc, thanks for you pratical knowage, see you tomorrow ;)
[03:51] <PhilH> the -l is a lowercase L
[03:51] <bnovc> bon: see ya
[03:51] <bnovc> good luck
[03:51] <leeyee> PhilH, to be honest, I don't have a projector at hand, but it worked before on SuSE10.0
[03:51] <Wiseguy> ok i got the flash working, but for some reason windows media files dont work either... mpeg or wmv
[03:51] <thiagoarrais> phil: $ fdisk -l /dev/hdb => Cannot open /dev/hdb
[03:52] <lupine_85> do you have /dev/hdb?
[03:52] <PhilH> use sudo infront of it
[03:52] <lupine_85> ls /dev/hdb
[03:52] <thiagoarrais> i am running the live one right now
[03:52] <leeyee> PhilH, So I'm planning to borrow a CRT monitor first, and try it out
[03:52] <lupine_85> ah, live CD not alt install CD
[03:52] <PhilH> thiagoarrais, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[03:52] <thiagoarrais> last night i tried the al cd, but i think it was broken. cause it kept complaining about kernel modules
[03:53] <PhilH> leeyee, so the projector just uses a vga connector?
[03:53] <lupine_85> yes, the alt is well broken at the moment
[03:53] <thiagoarrais> phil: will send you the result in private, ok?
[03:53] <PhilH> thaigoarrais, sure, if it doesn't work then join #sfd-flyingmonkeys
[03:53] <leeyee> PhilH, sorry I have no idea about that, what is the vga connector?
[03:54] <knapper> Anyone know of a way to burn m4a files?
[03:54] <dk06> phil
[03:54] <dk06> are u there
[03:54] <PhilKC> Yes.
[03:54] <dk06> yay
[03:54] <knapper> or convert m4a files
[03:54] <PhilH> 15pin d connector on the back of your machine
[03:54] <dk06> no
[03:54] <PhilH> dk06, yes
[03:54] <dk06> im lookin for philh
[03:54] <dk06> oh great
[03:54] <PhilH> dk06, what went wrong?
[03:54] <dk06> i encounterd huge problems
[03:54] <firefly2442> my pchdtv 3000 TV tuner card worked fine in i386 Ubuntu, but the AMD64 bit version doesn't seem to work, any thoughts?
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone tell me their impressions of Gnu Cash vs. Grisbi?
[03:54] <dk06> can we go back to our private room
[03:54] <dk06> whats it called
[03:54] <Fingertips> hey
[03:55] <leeyee> PhilH, I remeber that I just connectted the s-plug with s-video output of my lappy, then it worked, on SuSE of course
[03:55] <heymon> hey all
[03:55] <dk06> whats that private room called
[03:55] <dk06> where we were chatting
[03:55] <PhilH> dk06, #sfd-flyingmonkeys
[03:55] <Fingertips> could anybody here help me with some Dapper Drake installation problems regarding my x server using an x800 pro
[03:55] <dk06> k
[03:55] <thiagoarrais> phil and lupine: i would run fdisk manually, but i dont think the installer would work normally with that...
[03:56] <PhilH> thiagoarrais, i didn't get the output, private messages aren't working for me at the moment
[03:56] <lupine_85> thiagoarrais: it might be easier to install dapper then manually upgrade
[03:56] <thiagoarrais> oh, sorry
[03:56] <Fingertips> could anybody here help me with some Dapper Drake installation problems regarding my x server failing to work
[03:56] <lupine_85> I've done an edgy install from scratch and an edgy upgrade; the latter was definitely easier
[03:57] <nadia007> thiagoarrais, is the dapper universe repository down due to edgy coming out?
[03:57] <Flannel> nadia007: no
[03:57] <Tonren> How do I mount FAT16 as a writable FS?
[03:57] <thiagoarrais> lupine: i didnt have a very good experience on doing that from breezy to dapper...
[03:57] <Fingertips> could anybody here help me with some Dapper Drake installation problems regarding my x server failing to work
[03:58] <PhilH> thiagoarrais, ok, so what is the problem you're having exactly?
[03:58] <thiagoarrais> the installer partitioner (from the live cd) doesn't see hdb
[03:58] <nadia007> Flannel, I can't seem to update my indexes when I run sudo apt-get update on my server.  All repositories work except for the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (binary)
[03:58] <OofCZer0> this is a real stupid question im sure but how to you get the console type box up that you type commands and stuff in??
[03:58] <thiagoarrais> it only lists hda
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> OofCZer0: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[03:58] <thiagoarrais> on the drop down menu, you know
[03:59] <OofCZer0> tonyyarusso thank you
[03:59] <Fingertips> could anybody here help me with some Dapper Drake installation problems regarding my x server failing to work
[03:59] <Flannel> nadia007: er, which other repositories?
[04:00] <Tonren> How do I mount FAT16 as a writable FS?  Anyone?
[04:00] <fluvvell> Fingertips  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:00] <fluvvell> as sudo
[04:00] <Fingertips> fluvvell ive followed all those steps, but it hasnt been installed yet so it cant save the changes anywhere
[04:00] <Frederick> Does anyone here uses magick wand or magick core lib?
[04:01] <Kirsch> hey guys, i'm being really agrovated with this already, i'm trying to install php5 w/ jpeg support but it doesn't seem to want to go, i know i have gd (intalled from repo), i know i have libjpeg (its in /usr/lib/libjpeg62.so, also installed from repo) but i can't compile php w/ jpeg support... can anyone enlighten me?
[04:01] <nadia007> Flannel, I can update all supported repositories... it's the community maintained that err out on me.
[04:01] <Kirsch> pls...
[04:01] <leeyee> PhilH, any idea about that?
[04:01] <Dink> MattJ ??
[04:01] <Fingertips> fluvvell https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI i followed all those steps including the final one of reboot and then it just destroys all the work ive done
[04:01] <PhilH> leeyee, i've no idea how well ATI s-video works under ubuntu, sorry
[04:01] <fluvvell> Fingertips: sorry, what hasn't been installed?
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> !mount
[04:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:02] <fluvvell> Fingertips: you're not running on the live installation still are you?
[04:02] <leeyee> PhilH, that's okay, I've just found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78570.html
[04:02] <Fingertips> fluvvell thats the problem
[04:02] <nozorro> nadia007: try a different mirror
[04:02] <Fingertips> fluvvell i cant install because the x server crashes
[04:03] <fluvvell> Fingertips, do a basic install then go in to get your ati card working later.
[04:03] <fluvvell> dont try to do it all at once
[04:03] <Fingertips> fluvvell using the alternate thing?
[04:03] <nadia007> nozorro, meaning try diff country code?
[04:03] <Fingertips> fluvvell alternate disk?
[04:03] <fluvvell> Fingertips, that may be your only option.  Have you considered whether your install disk or hardware may be flakey?
[04:04] <Fingertips> fluvvell well,,, i have no idea how to manually in stall via consol
[04:04] <Fingertips> fluvvell neither
[04:04] <Fingertips> fluvvell i checksum'd it like 5 times
[04:04] <nozorro> nadia007: yeah, or look for a mirror using a browser (if you can)
[04:04] <fluvvell> Fingertips: you've actually tested the media after burning?
[04:04] <thiagoarrais> think i am gonna try to update from dapper...
[04:04] <iceman24k> !nvidia
[04:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:04] <Fingertips> fluvvell yes
[04:04] <nadia007> nozorro, I've tried just about every country code I can think of...
[04:04] <Fingertips> lol bots
[04:05] <nadia007> nozorro, same results
[04:05] <nwbreneman> Hi, I just told Openbox to replace the current window manager, had some errors, and now things such as my panels are gone. Could someone please tell me how to revert?
[04:05] <Fingertips> fluvvell is there any way to install via console w/o x
[04:05] <Fingertips> fluvvell using the Desktop disk
[04:05] <thiagoarrais> any other ideas before i give up?
[04:05] <nozorro> nadia007: changing just the country code mightn't always help -- look here for addresses: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:06] <nadia007> nozorro, thx, I'll look into it.!
[04:06] <jmoncayo> can somebody help me to isntall my broadcom wireless adpater with ndiswrapper please
[04:06] <nwbreneman> What's the default window manager in GNOME?
[04:07] <jmoncayo> anyone here please
[04:07] <orbin> nwbreneman: metacity iirc
[04:07] <thiagoarrais> nwbreneman: i think that would be metacity
[04:07] <fluvvell> Fingertips: probably the alternative install disk, in the old days of breezy it was a text based install
[04:07] <nwbreneman> Thanks.
[04:07] <orbin> jmoncayo: try here maybe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:07] <baconbacon> !broadcom :)
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broadcom :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <tech13> any link to a howto to use the resuce to fix a lvm?
[04:07] <fluvvell> Fingertips: when the x server crashes, have you tried ctrl+alt+f2 to get to the console?
[04:08] <thiagoarrais> how can i have the live installer skip thing?
[04:09] <orbin> skip thing?
[04:09] <thiagoarrais> oops
[04:09] <thiagoarrais> skip things. skip some steps
[04:09] <thiagoarrais> i am trying to skip the partitioner...
[04:10] <lupine_85> thiagoarrais: does the file /dev/hdb exist ?
[04:10] <iceman24k> Dang it i'll reinstall again, wonder why i could not enable resolution abouve 1024x768 ?
[04:10] <thiagoarrais> yup
[04:10] <thiagoarrais> it exists and the hd is partioned already
[04:11] <thiagoarrais> i can send you the fdisk output, if that would help....
[04:11] <lupine_85> no really, it just seems to be an installer bug :(
[04:11] <tech13> any howto for rescuing the system after a bad kernel update?
[04:11] <nozorro> thiagoarrais: if you're installing edgy eft, why not discuss this on #ubuntu+1
[04:11] <Fingertips> fluvvell how do i install dapper using the Desktop disk in console w/o x
[04:11] <SillyZ> evening
[04:11] <lupine_85> you could try the hardware solution - switching the drives around ;)
[04:11] <thiagoarrais> should i file that?
[04:11] <orbin> iceman24k: common problem: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:11] <thiagoarrais> nozorro: didn' t know that existed...
[04:11] <S3RV0> Hi guys, having problem with ubuntu live cd (dapper drake, i386) it keeps freezing at a random time whenever I use it, think it may be down to ACPI since my computer requires an ESD reset to even POST after, any Ideas on how to alter the kernel load so theres no ACPI?
[04:11] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys, I compiled xvid from CVS using CFLAGS, and did a symbolic link...but how can I see if totem, for example, is using my compiled version or the libxvidcore4 that was installed through synaptic??
[04:11] <nozorro> thiagoarrais: go for it :-)
[04:12] <KanRiNiN> Thanks in advance
[04:12] <lupine_85> tech13: just load the previous kernel version in GRUB?
[04:12] <thiagoarrais> sure, i moving the discussion to there...
[04:12] <databind> hey guys
[04:12] <Dutchy> S3RV0: i think acpi=off when loading it through the boatloader works
[04:12] <chr1s_> does anyone elses sound volume flucuate randomly?
[04:12] <orbin> S3RV0: you can pass 'acpi=off' ... or 'noacpi' ... i forgot which one
[04:12] <KanRiNiN> anybody?
[04:12] <Dutchy> bootloader*
[04:12] <databind> I got a problem while installing ubuntu 6.0 LTS
[04:12] <tech13> lupine_85, was using lilo, and it doesn't have the previous version listed.
[04:13] <nadia007> nozorro, I found the mirror pages... but do I just add the ftp location to my list of repository list?
[04:13] <SillyZ> Fingertips: this a machine without a cdrom drive?
[04:13] <lupine_85> tech13: then you'll need to boot from another source (live CD?) and go from there
[04:13] <databind> the screen res is so big 640x480 and the windows doesnt fit to the screen
[04:13] <thin_> hello, I'm installing ubuntu and can't get past step 2 of 6 (selecting my time zone)
[04:13] <Vanique> NthDegree: Available?
[04:13] <S3RV0> the menu doesn't offer the option on command line, and since it was partitioning grub before crashing my bootloaders gone ^.^
[04:13] <Vanique> ;)
[04:13] <thin_> any idea why i just get the hourglass / spinning circle?
[04:14] <tech13> lupine_85, tried booting the kubutu alternate cd in rescue mode, but lilo gave errors about device-mapper (i'm also using lvm....)
[04:14] <databind> it's busy
[04:14] <Fingertips> sillyz no im using a Desktop CD to install
[04:14] <foo> I have xterm*faceName: MiscFixed and xterm*faceSize: 12 in my .Xdefaults and it's not working.. my xterm fonts are still the same. I have another ubuntu desktop with fluxbox and it works fine .. hm, I did a server install on this one. Am I missing something?
[04:14] <orbin> databind: have you installed the system?
[04:14] <chr1s_> does anyone elses sound volume flucuate randomly?
[04:14] <lupine_85> tech-13: install grub? :)
[04:14] <thin_> is there a channel where total noobs can get actual help?
[04:15] <iceman24k> Wish i could find a Gdeskletes applet like the meck applet for karamba :(
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> thin_: Did you have the cd do a self test for errors.. Just because it boots does not mean there are no errors
[04:15] <tbaur> sup
[04:15] <abelle> Hello
[04:15] <nozorro> nadia007: yes but following the model in /etc/apt/sources-list, i.e. you add the basse server address, the 'dapper main restricted ...'
[04:15] <Cycne> sup?
[04:15] <orbin> thin_: does it actually lock up?
[04:15] <thin_> burnt multiple cd's and cd checed all using the cd check utility on the unubtu startup
[04:16] <thin_> not locked
[04:16] <thin_> just jerky
[04:16] <thin_> cant select a city
[04:16] <Fingertips> sounds like a graphcis card erro thin_
[04:16] <thin_> doing anything other than running the install program on the desktop worked fine