[17:28] <TJ-> neredsenvy: as I said earlier, in BIOS Setup Boot Order, make sure the hard disk is the 1st and only boot device.
[17:28] <neredsenvy> HDD is on the list and is first
[17:28] <TJ-> neredsenvy: OK, so how long does it take to see the flashing cursor ?
[17:29] <TJ-> neredsenvy: is it almost instantly (much less than 1 second) ?
[17:29] <neredsenvy> shows acer logo and goes directly to cursor
[17:30] <TJ-> neredsenvy: right, so it is what I'm talking about then.
[17:30] <heelflip> neredsenvy: did you try to reinstall grub? or only update-grub?
[17:30] <neredsenvy> yup
[17:30] <neredsenvy> going to try to reinstall now
[17:30] <heelflip> you ran grub-install
[17:30] <TJ-> neredsenvy: there is a possiblilty that the GRUB boot loader didn't get correctly installed, but from what we've seen in the diagnostics so far, that's unlikely
[17:31] <TJ-> neredsenvy: whats the make/model of the PC?
[17:32] <neredsenvy> Acer Aspire 5943G
[17:32] <TJ-> neredsenvy: recently we've seen a lot of bugs in Acer firmwares, I'll check if we've seen that one
[17:33] <heelflip> neredsenvy: i dont think ran grub-install
[17:33] <anabain> (ubuntu 14.04) How are permissions to be set in /media dir in order to allow rbind work and not complain about permissions problems. Right now I can't ls my rbind /media/user/USBdevice mounted at the rbind mount .i.e. /deuteros/media/user/USBdevice. As root, ls on the rbind mount outputs nothing. As the user, it complains about not having permission.
[17:33] <heelflip> *you ran
[17:34] <neredsenvy> I'm reinstalling the OS again
[17:34] <neredsenvy> let's see what happens
[17:34] <silidan> hi, i have an old machine running linux kernel 2.6 that cant read ext4, but on that old machine is a harddrive with several ext4 partitiots on it, lets call dem sdb5 and sdb6. now i have a brand new ubuntu machine and i would like to access the harddrive in the old machine which contains a filesystem the old machine cant read (ext4) any idea how i can do this?
[17:35] <daftykins> silidan: from a live session.
[17:35] <daftykins> boot one
[17:35] <silidan> daftykins: no chance, not enough ram
[17:35] <daftykins> silidan: use something like puppy linux though
[17:36] <daftykins> doesn't need to be fully ubuntu just for a quick disk access and data juggle
[17:36] <OerHeks> lubuntu would do, even with 512 mb
[17:36] <silidan> isnt there a way to give low level access to sdb5 and sdb6 on the old machine over netwrok?
[17:36] <coelho> Hi, I have a question. I have a DVI to VGA adapter to connect one of my monitors and it isn't recognized. I can't put a higher resolution. I have tried xrandr with no luck. anyone had to deal with the same situation ?!
[17:37] <silidan> OerHeks: nice to hear, unfortunatly im at 128MB ram
[17:37] <silidan> daftykins: ill check out puppy then
[17:37] <daftykins> silidan: or tiny core is the other one i think, i forget the little ones
[17:37] <anabain> any ideas?
[17:38] <silidan> coelho: dvi to vga adapter requires the graphics card to have the analog signal lines in the dvi connector actually used...
[17:39] <silidan> coelho: if your graphics card doesnt put out an analog signal over its dvi port then you are out of luck
[17:39] <coelho> it works at 1280x1024
[17:39] <coelho> but i can't put higher resolutions,
[17:39] <coelho> :|
[17:39] <daftykins> coelho: it's failing to read the EDID because VGA is rubbish.
[17:40] <silidan> coelho: ok so your graficscard works analo, good, then its probably just a question of EDID stuff..
[17:40] <daftykins> avoid VGA where possible
[17:40] <TJ-> silidan: install fuseext2 package; it can read ext2/3/4 in userspace
[17:40] <TJ-> !info fuseext2 | silidan
[17:40] <coelho> old monitor without any other form of connection.
[17:40] <coelho> I saw some digital to analogic adapters
[17:41] <coelho> do you think i will have more luck with one of those ?
[17:41] <silidan> TJ-: thanks, but the system is so old all the repos moved... currently no repo access...
[17:41] <daftykins> coelho: don't throw more money at it, running analog is the mistake here
[17:41] <TJ-> silidan: replace them in sources.list with old-releases.ubuntu.com instead of archive.ubuntu.com
[17:41] <silidan> coelho: no, i think you would do better teaching your system what your monitor can do
[17:42] <silidan> TJ-: thanks
[17:42] <root_> k
[17:42] <coelho> silidan, are you telling me to make a xorg conf file ?
[17:43] <silidan> coelho: basically yes
[17:43] <neredsenvy> Ok installation completed fingers crossed now
[17:43] <silidan> coelho: although there might be an easier way... EDID
[17:43] <k1l> coelho: its not needed today. but if you make one it will be used.
[17:43] <coelho> Silidan I'm not getting the EDID info
[17:44] <coelho> the converter must lose it
[17:44] <coelho> in windows is the same
[17:44] <silidan> coelho: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316985
[17:44] <anabain> Then, a dynamically USB device mounted at /media/user/USBdevice won't be seen through its rbind mount?
[17:44] <k1l> coelho: adapters are known to be an issue. try to set the EDID yourself
[17:46] <coelho> thx guys :D i will try that
[17:46] <gambl0re> when i try to install gulp using "npm install --global gulp" i get error msgs. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1a66907373aa580044a6 . any suggestions?
[17:46] <neredsenvy> OMG
[17:47] <neredsenvy> It worked
[17:47] <neredsenvy> finally
[17:47] <silidan> coelho: dont follow it blindly its from 2006
[17:47] <TJ-> neredsenvy: thank goodness!
[17:47] <neredsenvy> did a full reinstall
[17:47] <neredsenvy> and it works now
[17:47] <TJ-> neredsenvy: earlier you mentioned seeing an "I/O error" I wonder if there's a problem with the hard disk that affected things
[17:47] <coelho> silidan, shure :)
[17:48] <neredsenvy> guessing something went wrong during installation
[17:48] <neredsenvy> second installation was slower than first one
[17:48] <Simonious> I did: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oxyum/backports to get dfu-util0.8-1 as shown: https://launchpad.net/~oxyum/+archive/ubuntu/backports but all of the things I've attempted have still only resulted in dfu-util 0.5-1, what did I miss?
[17:48] <daftykins> neredsenvy: i think based on what TJ- said, you should be checking your hard disks' condition
[17:50] <k1l> Simonious: "apt-cache policy dfu-util " in a pastebin please
[17:50] <anabain> Ok, I think I'll change my nick to "the invisible man"
[17:51] <Simonious> k1l: http://pastebin.com/Xjr45d04
[17:51] <ioria> neredsenvy   so the issue wsa ?
[17:51] <ioria> *was
[17:52] <k1l> Simonious: you are using arm. that is a very important info
[17:52] <Simonious> k1l: yes BeagleBoneBlack
[17:52] <daftykins> ugh, you need to state ARM first.
[17:52] <k1l> Simonious: PPAS must be accepted to be build for arm.
[17:52] <Simonious> my apologies
[17:53] <k1l> so most probably you will need to compile it yourself
[17:53] <Simonious> ahh.. so I'll have to compile it myself?
[17:53]  * Simonious chuckles
[17:53] <Simonious> alright then, thanks
[17:54] <Pap00se> how do u add modify user accounts on proftpd in ubuntu, please point me to a guide either via ftp commands or via ssh terminal
[17:55] <neredsenvy> ioria, Not could be bad installation
[17:55] <neredsenvy> I checked the disk now
[17:55] <neredsenvy> passed ok
[17:55] <ioria> neredsenvy   good, happy for you
[17:56] <neredsenvy> so I'm guessing something went wrong with either first attempt at making the usb or at first installation
[17:56] <neredsenvy> i remade the usb and reinstalled and now works
[17:56] <neredsenvy> Tho Ubuntu 14.04 feels bit sluggish
[17:56] <neredsenvy> Win 7 was snappy
[17:57] <ioria> neredsenvy   mmm...
[17:57] <neredsenvy> Like I open Firefox and it takes 15s to load Ubuntu start page : P
[17:57] <ioria> neredsenvy   cpu ? ram ?
[17:58] <neredsenvy> i5 quad 2.7GHz 8GB 1666MHz
[17:58] <ioria> neredsenvy   that's very good
[17:59] <ioria> neredsenvy   sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[18:00] <MrTJB> ...any help with daemon and also aptitude(/install, update, upgrade) errors?.. cant really give no command even as root. i think should reinstall whole system right or?
[18:01] <neredsenvy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14101672/
[18:01] <daftykins> neredsenvy: like i said you need to check your hard disk. "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[18:02] <ioria> neredsenvy   yes, better a check-up   .... does your mb support uefi ?
[18:04] <neredsenvy> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14101729/
[18:05] <compdoc> neredsenvy, is it a laptop?
[18:05] <daftykins> start/stop count is 36 thousand!?
[18:06] <daftykins> neredsenvy: it's a little warmer than i'd recommend but other than that, looks ok
[18:06] <compdoc> neredsenvy, most of those stats are good, except G-Sense_Error_Rate      350
[18:06] <neredsenvy> compdoc, Laptop ye
[18:07] <compdoc> neredsenvy, that start/stop count is probably the heads constantly parking. theres a util to turn that off
[18:07] <neredsenvy> I'll try it
[18:07] <neredsenvy> which tool ?
[18:07] <daftykins> no i don't think they'd increment that value for a head park
[18:07] <compdoc> some ppl dont like it, but being a laptop, parking the heads when not in use is probably a good thing
[18:08] <daftykins> those WD blues do sound quite noisy for it ;)
[18:08] <Pap00se> how do u add modify user accounts on proftpd in ubuntu, please point me to a guide either via ftp commands or via ssh terminal
[18:09] <compdoc> neredsenvy, if you have a problem with a drive, dont bother trying to fix the start/stop thing
[18:09] <compdoc> it wont help the problem
[18:10] <neredsenvy> odd tho programs are superfast to start
[18:11] <neredsenvy> but websites load super slow
[18:11] <neredsenvy> ill try etherenet
[18:11] <daftykins> i smell wifi driver trouble
[18:14] <wawrek> hello, I have a lenovo yoga laptop. I try to install ubuntu on it from a usb key (I created it with pendrivelinux as specified here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows)
[18:14] <compdoc> neredsenvy, you have a pretty high Load_Cycle_Count, so you might want to run the util. Its named WDIDLE3, I think. Theres lots of info in forums about this problem
[18:14] <daftykins> wawrek: and?
[18:14] <wawrek> the problem is that when I try to boot from the usb and try ubuntu without installing, it cannot detect the networks
[18:14] <wawrek> no internet
[18:15] <nereds> oi
[18:15] <ioria> neredsenvy   or install in efi mode, if supported
[18:15] <daftykins> you probably need some additional input there, which version are you trying, wawrek ?
[18:15] <wawrek> so i am quite afraid of installing if the system is offline
[18:16] <wawrek> I tried ubuntu 14.04.3 and 15.10
[18:16] <daftykins> wawrek: i would boot up the live session again, then run "lshw -C network" and "lspci" then put the output of those in a text file on another flash drive if possible, then bring them back here
[18:16] <daftykins> wawrek: is it a yoga 3 pro, or?
[18:17] <wawrek> yoga 500-14ibd
[18:17] <nereds> ioria, In installed Chrome and it's blazing fast now
[18:17] <nereds> everything works as should no idea what's going on with Firefox
[18:18] <ioria> nereds ... intereresting... try a sudo apt-get update, upgrade , dist-upgrade
[18:18] <lugarius> I installed ubuntu on my Pc, and ticked the 3rd party software(Mp3) , where is the coded?
[18:18] <wawrek> daftykins:  will do that
[18:18] <lugarius> *codec
[18:18] <daftykins> ioria: there's no point doing all 3 ;) just the first and last!
[18:19] <ioria> nereds ... right... you can also   apt full-upgrade
[18:21] <lugarius> I installed ubuntu on my Pc, and ticked the 3rd party software(Mp3) , where is the codec?
[18:22] <ioria> lugarius, what you mean ?
[18:22] <anabain> how do i get my usb stick with vfat mounted at the /media/user/USB point, to be browseable at an rbind mount (/media rbind mounted)?
[18:23] <anabain> right now trying to ls complains about permissions. As root, ls outputs nothing...
[18:24] <lugarius> ioria I downloaded ubuntu, booted it , started the installation with the (do you want to install the 3rd party software) yes, and installed it.  but I cant still not play Mp3 files
[18:25] <ioria> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:25] <lugarius> .....and?
[18:26] <anabain> lugarius: http://askubuntu.com/questions/565861/unable-to-play-mp3-in-ubuntu-14-04
[18:26] <Pap00se> how do u add modify user accounts on proftpd in ubuntu, please point me to a guide either via ftp commands or via ssh terminal
[18:26] <ioria> lugarius, try to install it ... but depends also on the app you use to play it
[18:27] <ioria> lugarius, if you use the command-line sox, for example, you need an additional pkg
[18:28] <lugarius> well, the problem is, at beginn I checked the option that ubuntu installs it... why it wasn't installed
[18:28] <lugarius> is this checkbox a joke to anoy people?
[18:28] <jak2000> hi all
[18:29] <JermBeatz> whats the most effective way to search for a channel relevant to what you need help with? trying to not be unneccessary anywhere lol
[18:29] <daftykins> lugarius: don't be ridiculous
[18:29] <anabain> Hi, jak2000
[18:29] <jak2000> i have 1 nic, inserted one more (a second) nic, but ifconfig only see 1
[18:29] <jak2000> how to check?
[18:30] <anabain> lspci, jak2000
[18:30] <ioria> jak2000, sudo lshw -c network
[18:30] <OerHeks> !restricted| lugarius
[18:31] <lugarius> daftykins,  I just want to know what this checkbox makes
[18:31] <jak2000> ioria, anabain: http://pastebin.com/aSc1S7bC
[18:31] <daftykins> lugarius: so are you going to confirm that package is on?
[18:32] <ioria> jak2000, network:1 DISABLED    sudo ifup ......
[18:32] <lugarius> what?
[18:33] <jak2000> sudo ifup eth1
[18:33] <jak2000> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[18:33] <ioria> lugarius, http://askubuntu.com/questions/22285/clarification-of-the-third-party-software-options-during-system-installation
[18:33] <jak2000> checking continue disabled
[18:34] <ioria> jak2000, lspci
[18:34] <anabain> what are the names of your network card devices, jak2000 ? ethX or something else?
[18:35] <zykotick9> !alis | JermBeatz
[18:37] <JermBeatz> ubottu: may need to dumb it down for me just a bit, in freenode how do i find "alis"?
[18:37] <lugarius> ioria thanks, this helps a bit, but I still checked the box, and flash wasn't installed
[18:38] <ioria> lugarius, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?  (i k that does not answer your q)
[18:38] <IBM_CLONE> Is anyone here familiar with web server site IRC like chat services?
[18:38] <anabain> jak2000, have you tried:   sudo ifconfig eth1 up; sudo ifup eth1  ?
[18:38] <lugarius> ioria no, I cant
[18:38] <IBM_CLONE> There is a service called: Mibit but I don't want to be a part of that domain.
[18:38] <ioria> lugarius, you can't ?
[18:39] <lugarius> no Internet on the Pc
[18:39] <tgm4883> IBM_CLONE: like a web IRC client?
[18:39] <IBM_CLONE> I would like my own server to provide website instant chat.
[18:39] <ioria> lugarius, you installed without internet ?
[18:39] <IBM_CLONE> Yes TGM. Thanks for answering. :)
[18:40] <ioria> lugarius, if so, no 3rd party software
[18:40] <lugarius> yes
[18:40] <lugarius> why?
[18:40] <ioria> lugarius, it needs to download, i think
[18:40] <IBM_CLONE> If you go to Godaddy you will be greeted by a sales rep and you can type a conversation like IRC.
[18:41] <tgm4883> IBM_CLONE: well I'm not sure of any self standing chat server software, although I'm sure some exists. If you were looking for a web client that would connect to regular IRC servers there are a bunch
[18:41] <lugarius> ioria that makes no sense, why is this button even there if I need to download it
[18:41] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/irc-server.html
[18:41] <ioria> lugarius, if you have connection ...
[18:41] <IBM_CLONE> Well, not every one in the internet knows about IRC so a server side chat channel would suffice.
[18:41] <OerHeks> but carefull, irc servers need protection.
[18:41] <anabain> how do i get my usb stick with vfat mounted at the /media/user/USB point, to be browseable at an rbind mount (/media rbind mounted)?
[18:42] <dretnx> Can I install Wubi on windows 10 partition?
[18:42] <ioria> lugarius, for copyright reason , those codecs cannot be embedded in the ubuntu.iso, i guess
[18:42] <OerHeks> dretnx, no
[18:42] <OerHeks> !wubi
[18:42] <livewithhonor> Greetings. Having a little trouble understanding file paths in linux
[18:42] <lugarius> ioria FACEPALM
[18:43] <ioria> lugarius, so, you need to download elesewhere
[18:43] <livewithhonor> .gnome2/gedit/plugins/ under your home directory.
[18:43] <tgm4883> ioria: I would say it's probably space reasons rather than copyright reasons. But you could be right
[18:43] <lugarius> THIS is the reason why Linux Mint is more popular
[18:43] <livewithhonor> can someone tell me where that is?
[18:43] <tgm4883> lugarius: linux mint isn't more popular
[18:43] <ioria> tgm4883, to be honest, i'm not sure ....
[18:43] <OerHeks> lugarius, stop that troll, those 3th party packages need internet, as stated.
[18:44] <anabain> lugarius, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu-restricted-extras check "inclusion"
[18:44] <lugarius> MINT over 3000 hits per day
[18:44] <ioria> lugarius, anyway, any linux distro , without internet,  ..... ? come on :þ
[18:45] <lugarius> mint is better than ubuntu
[18:45] <ioria> lugarius, you lie :þ
[18:45] <daftykins> lugarius: it's not more popular, Mint has its' own issues and such a poor community people keep faking they're running ubuntu to come in here and ask questions.
[18:45] <tgm4883> lugarius: Spend any amount of time in this channel and you'll figure out pretty quickly that Mint is not more popular than Ubuntu. It being better or not is subjective
[18:45] <daftykins> lugarius: if you can't install one package via tickbox as most folk can, then the issue lies with you.
[18:45] <lugarius> so much pointless, an button on install that does nothing
[18:45] <lugarius> please kik me,  Ubuntu sucks
[18:46] <daftykins> lugarius: stop complaining now thanks, you're being pathetic.
[18:46] <lugarius> MINT 4 ever
[18:46] <tgm4883> anabain: FWIW, that does have a "citation needed"
[18:46] <tgm4883> lugarius: and yet you are here ;)
[18:46] <ioria> lugarius, may i ask you why 'no internet' ?
[18:46] <lugarius> KIck me, I cant close on this shitty irc client
[18:46] <tgm4883> lugarius: so... more reasons to think the problem is you then?
[18:47] <daftykins> troll confirmed
[18:47] <OerHeks> next!
[18:47] <lugarius> I have no Internet, I cant install needed software...  mint has Mp3 and everything pre installed
[18:47] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins/
[18:48] <anabain> tgm4883, taking it on the strict side: I pointed at that to make our friend aware that he shouldn't expect these packages to be included in a DVD.
[18:48] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: which would be /home/<USERNAME>/.gnome2/gedit/plugins/
[18:48] <lugarius> please kick me,  UBUNTU spyware shit
[18:48] <wawrek> hello, I have a lenovo yoga 500 14IBD. I try to install ubuntu from a usb key (created with pendrivelinux as specified here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows). When I try to boot from the usb and test ubuntu, there is any wireless network detected - it does not work. I have no ethernet port on that laptop. Here is the paste of "lshw -C network" and...
[18:48] <wawrek> ..."lspci": http://paste.ubuntu.com/14102594/
[18:48] <lugarius> KICK ME
[18:48] <tgm4883> !ops
[18:48] <tgm4883> lugarius: working on it
[18:49] <OerHeks> There are rules to make a linux distro proffesional, lugarius, and mint does not apply to that.
[18:49] <ProbablyAndy> does /quit not work?  that must be a terrible irc client.
[18:49] <lugarius> thanks, ubuntu has much to learn about user frienly
[18:49] <tgm4883> lugarius: what IRC client?
[18:49] <lugarius> yaiic on android 1.2
[18:50] <livewithhonor> tgm4883 tyvm :-)
[18:50] <lugarius> outdated as fuck
[18:50] <tgm4883> lugarius: try /close
[18:50] <lugarius> nope
[18:50]  * tgm4883 doesn't believe you
[18:51] <lugarius> I'm still in this chan
[18:51] <OerHeks> remove battery
[18:51] <tgm4883> thank you
[18:51] <tgm4883> If anyone asked legit questions during all that can you ask again, because it was probably missed
[18:51] <livewithhonor> tgm4883 so Im guessing I need to create the .gnome2 dir?
[18:52] <livewithhonor> FYI I am attempting to get gedit ftp support working.
[18:52] <jak2000> ioria, anabain: http://pastebin.com/aSc1S7bC
[18:52] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: are you looking in nautilus?
[18:52] <jak2000> how to enable the second eth?
[18:52] <wawrek> is there someone sho could help me to troubleshoot the lack of wireless when truying to install ubuntu from a usb ?
[18:52] <livewithhonor> I'm clueless about nautilus but have seen that term a bit in the last hour.
[18:53] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: it should already exist,  it's probably a hidden directory
[18:53] <livewithhonor> ah yes the .in front
[18:53] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: nautilus is the file manager in ubuntu
[18:53] <bazhang> nautilus is the file explorer type deal
[18:53] <livewithhonor> how do I see hidden dirs?
[18:53] <daftykins> wawrek: ah missed your paste
[18:53] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: in nautilus, hit ctrl+h
[18:53] <anabain> jak2000, have you tried:  sudo ifconfig eth1; ifup eth1   ?
[18:53] <daftykins> !broadcom | wawrek see here for info on your Broadcom BCM4352
[18:53] <wawrek> daftykins: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/14102594/
[18:54] <livewithhonor> ahhh okay gotcha
[18:54] <daftykins> wawrek: it looks like your wired should be working fine though.
[18:54] <wawrek> really ?
[18:54] <wawrek> ubottu: thanks
[18:55] <daftykins> !pm | nforse
[18:55] <daftykins> !ru | nforse
[18:56] <livewithhonor> This xchat irc program I d/l does not seem to have a chat scroll bar
[18:56] <EriC^^> livewithhonor: press pageup
[18:56] <daftykins> hexchat would be wiser
[18:57] <livewithhonor> wow okay thanks EriC^^
[18:57] <anabain> jak2000, any success?
[18:58] <kika> alguem aqui pode me dar um suporte em joomla?
[18:59] <wawrek> daftykins: do I need to create a different live linux usb? how to troubleshoot this?
[18:59] <livewithhonor> https://code.google.com/p/gedit-ftp-browser/ can someone verify this is still legit info?
[19:00] <livewithhonor> If anyone has a good color-by-numbers page on setting up gedit for ftp support I'd appreciate it.
[19:00] <daftykins> wawrek: what's your plan, dualboot beside Windows - or ubuntu only?
[19:00] <livewithhonor> Ubuntu only - kill windows.
[19:00] <wawrek> ubuntu only and I have one computer working...
[19:00] <livewithhonor> Just do it.
[19:00] <livewithhonor> yeayyy!
[19:00] <wawrek> yeah
[19:00] <daftykins> wawrek: just to confirm, you can't get wired LAN working on it either?
[19:01] <wawrek> how do you mean ?
[19:01] <mcphail> livewithhonor: shouldn't gedit open files from ftp in nautilus by default?
[19:01] <daftykins> wawrek: does it work with a cable plugged in from your router?
[19:01] <wawrek> daftykins: no ethernet port
[19:01] <daftykins> wawrek: your lspci paste says there is
[19:01] <daftykins> realtek RTL8111 gigabit ethernet
[19:02] <wawrek> there is lan
[19:02] <livewithhonor> mcphail I think my issue is having trouble hooking up to FTP thru nautilus
[19:02] <wawrek> foiund it :)
[19:02] <jak2000> anabain: http://pastie.org/10641920
[19:02] <mcphail> livewithhonor: in nautilus, press "ctrl-l" to see the location bar and type "ftp://whatever.site"
[19:03] <daftykins> wawrek: i would wipe the first 100MB of the disk with dd, install, then fully update it by being plugged into wired LAN
[19:03] <livewithhonor> also I'm not seeing the ftp browser plugin on the gedit plugin dialog
[19:03] <forester> good evening
[19:03] <mcphail> livewithhonor: I haven't used ftp for years, but assume this still works
[19:03] <wawrek> so i leave windows for a while...
[19:03] <wawrek> good :) will do that - thanks for the help
[19:07] <Nightelf> Hi, I'm trying to bind Super+D to show desktop but apparently it doesn't do any effect. Even tho it says minimize all normal windows => Super+D. Yet, Ctrl+Super+D is the key to minimize
[19:07] <Nightelf> any idea how can i change it super+D?
[19:07] <livewithhonor> mcphail I am now looking at my ftp thru nautilus... thanks! Next question - I should set up a local folder - need to edit local files ... is there an option in gedit to use hotkeys to go from local to remote file?
[19:07] <forester> I have downloaded last beta 3.1.3 tar and tryed to compile. But there is an error : /bin/bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' /bin/bash: -c: line 0: `cd .. && ./build_tools/autorevision -t h -o /home/master/Общедоступные/Программы (SOFTWARE)/warzone2100-3.1git/src/autorevision.cache > /home/master/Общедоступные/Программы (SOFTWARE)/warzone2100-3.1git/src/autorevision.h.new'
[19:07] <livewithhonor> Obviously do not want to edit the files remotely.
[19:08] <bekks> forester: last beta of what?
[19:08] <livewithhonor> I actually have a few questions - my team-mate and I want to set up subversion
[19:08] <forester> Warzone2100 from there site.
[19:08] <forester> 3.1.3
[19:08] <anabain> jak2000, you forgot sudo on the second command
[19:08] <bazhang> forester, try the warezone channel
[19:08] <forester> I did
[19:09] <bazhang> forester, then be patient
[19:09] <forester> There dev channel is closed
[19:09] <bazhang> forester, no need for the dev channel
[19:09] <forester> there main channel do not know
[19:09] <anabain> jak2000, sudo ifconfig eth1; sudo ifup eth1
[19:09] <forester> their member could not to answer on this question
[19:10] <jak2000> anabain: http://pastie.org/10641935
[19:11] <Nightelf> Fixed it by setting Add show desktop icon to the launcher to true through appearance => behavior.
[19:11] <anabain> jak2000, you have eth1 up, right?
[19:12] <jak2000> anabain not
[19:12] <jak2000> cant up
[19:13] <jak2000> done
[19:14] <anabain> jak2000, it's ok now?
[19:16] <livewithhonor> is there a channel specific to linux web development?
[19:17] <anabain> jak2000, shouldn't you have "auto eth1" on /etc/network/interfaces ?
[19:17] <bazhang> !alis | livewithhonor have a search
[19:18] <jak2000> anabain done
[19:19] <livewithhonor> hmm okay trying to figure that out
[19:19] <compdoc> it is missing auto eth1
[19:19] <livewithhonor> that search thing is a bit of a pain to figure out right now
[19:20] <anabain> jak2000, after putting auto eth1, restart networking: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:21] <ShadowM00n> hello; I've tried some googling already to little avail, but in 15.10 when using Upstart the machine fails to halt/reboot, last output I can get is that the filesystem and swap were unmounted/disabled. Little of value seems to be in the system logs due to this. Where can I begin troubleshooting this?
[19:22] <ioria> !systemd
[19:23] <ShadowM00n> I realise systemd is the default, but I find it unpleasant for a variety of reasons, and the upstart package appears to still be supported
[19:25] <jak2000> anabain k, thanks
[19:26] <ioria> ShadowM00n, you installed this upstart-sysv ?
[19:27] <ShadowM00n> ioria: I did indeed, as far back as 15.04. It is still present, and I tried re-installing it at one point.
[19:27] <ioria> ShadowM00n, did you run sudo update-initramfs -u ?
[19:28] <ShadowM00n> ioria: if I'm not mistaken, that's triggered regularly, notably on kernel updates, of which many have occured. I see that upstart is the default option in grub, with systemd appearing as the alternative
[19:28] <SemiNus> hi
[19:29] <ioria> ShadowM00n, oh... ok
[19:29] <SemiNus> Question: When I want to upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10,  do I need to change my  /etc/apt/sources.list   BEFORE or AFTER I run "do-release-upgrade" ?
[19:30] <phunyguy> SemiNus: you shouldn't need to worry about that with do-release-upgrade
[19:30] <phunyguy> it will typically disable any third party repos anyway
[19:31] <SemiNus> phunyguy, oh, that would be a problem then - I want to keep trinity desktop!
[19:31] <phunyguy> SemiNus: ahh. Good luck, then.
[19:31] <SemiNus> phunyguy, ok let me ask it from a different way - I am happy with 15.04 which is a LTS release - I only need Hugin 2015
[19:31] <anabain> jak2000, you're welcome. It seems today nobody is willing to help me, so at least I'm glad to be helpful to someone, ;)
[19:31] <phunyguy> 15.04 is not LTS.
[19:31] <SemiNus> I tried the Launchpad version but I head into dependency problems
[19:31] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: after the upgrade, you can just log in to a fallback or a TTY and just uncomment the entries in your sources.list
[19:32] <SemiNus> ShadowM00n, well, it's always risky - at the end of the day,  we cannot know if all will work out properly
[19:32] <zumba_addict> why does ctrl-p change my ubuntu to black and white?
[19:32] <phunyguy> SemiNus: best to backup first ☺
[19:32] <zumba_addict> what is it doing?
[19:33] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: I can confirm that Trinity works on 15.10, because I helped point out a dependency problem that prevented it from installing, which seems to be fixed now
[19:33] <SemiNus> ShadowM00n, nice!  So is trinity desktop already well-known out there?
[19:34] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: I'm not sure how well-known it is, exactly; I was trying to install it for nostalgic and research reasons. I normally use awesome-wm.
[19:34] <SemiNus> nice too
[19:35] <SemiNus> ShadowM00n, well,  I started using TDE again when KDE4 totally messed up everything they could mess up
[19:35] <SemiNus> every new release had at least one more problem than the prior one,  then I switched to TDE and I *love* it
[19:37] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: can't say I favour their aesthetic decisions of late, but I run KDE4 on my laptop nowadays (15.04 with Kubuntu repos) and it seems to run just fine. TDE feels faster though and I'm considering moving it over to do a more in-depth comparison
[19:37] <bazhang> can we take this to #ubuntu-discuss please
[19:38] <SemiNus> bazhang, yes, of course... but do we really disturb people?  (I just joined #ubuntu-discuss)
[19:38] <5EXAAJLOM> sup
[19:38] <ShadowM00n> right, sorry, too much coffee and jumping on everything
[19:38] <bazhang> thanks
[19:44] <zumba_addict> i installed Ubuntu 14.04. Am I using Gnome?
[19:44] <zumba_addict> it's because I want to download themes and want to make sure it's the correct one
[19:44] <teward> zumba_addict: you're likely using Unity, and not the standard GNOME interface, if you installed plain ubuntu 14.04
[19:44] <zumba_addict> got it
[19:45] <zumba_addict> i want to have a nicer gui. Any suggestions?
[19:45] <teward> you'd be looking for Ubuntu GNOME if you want the GNOME interfaces
[19:45] <teward> Kubuntu (KDE)
[19:45] <zumba_addict> k
[19:45] <teward> but that's my opinoin
[19:45] <SemiNus> now a help-question:  http://pastie.org/10642005
[19:45] <zumba_addict> for Unity, which theme is cool?
[19:45] <anabain> how do i get my usb stick with vfat mounted at the /media/user/USB point, to be browseable at an rbind mount (/media rbind mounted)? If I ls as the user it complains about permissions; as root, it outputs nothing. any ideas?
[19:45] <zumba_addict> is Numix good?
[19:46] <k1l> zumba_addict: that depends on your taste
[19:46] <k1l> !theme | zumba_addict
[19:46] <zumba_addict> k
[19:46] <k1l> choose one you like.
[19:46] <zumba_addict> will those links work for Unity?
[19:46] <k1l> you will need a unity theme.
[19:46] <zumba_addict> k
[19:46] <zumba_addict> what are you using?
[19:47] <k1l> standard theme iirc
[19:47] <zumba_addict> k
[19:47] <k1l> "radiance"
[19:49] <SemiNus> could anyone please tell me what I can do to solve the upgrade-issue?
[19:49] <SemiNus> Here is a paste:
[19:49] <SemiNus> http://pastie.org/10642005
[19:50] <ioria> SemiNus, do you have ppa ?
[19:50] <daftykins> SemiNus: "lsb_release -a" ?
[19:50] <SemiNus> ioria, like launchpad? yes
[19:51] <SemiNus> daftykins, http://pastie.org/10642014
[19:51] <ioria> SemiNus, grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[19:53] <SemiNus> ioria, http://pastie.org/pastes/10642022/text
[19:55] <ShadowM00n> looks like Trinity stuff isn't being removed
[19:55] <SemiNus> so what am I supposed to do?
[19:57] <ioria> SemiNus, maybe  purge ppa
[19:58] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: offhand, try removing the trinity packages temporarily, perhaps? The metapackage makes it easy enough to restore it, and your settings won't be harmed. Beyond that, I haven't seen a PPA interfere with an upgrade like this, so I'm unsure.
[19:58] <SemiNus> I see
[19:58] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | SemiNus
[19:59] <mrsam_> hi my frind : how can i remot ubuntu with m android phone?
[19:59] <bazhang> mrsam_, did you mean ssh?
[20:00] <daftykins> mrsam_: juiceSSH / ConnectBot
[20:00] <SemiNus> well, the only reason why I would upgrade at all is because of Hugin - I must use version "2015" of hugin.   Would it be easier to resolve the depedency issues with Hugin?  Because purgin the whole PPA .... I love that my system is running so reliable and stable at the moment
[20:02] <SemiNus> http://pastie.org/pastes/10642035/text
[20:02] <SemiNus> that's what happens when I try to install Hugin 2015
[20:03] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: you could try manually installing those packages until you find the part that's broken, or else try compiling from source if applicable (just use checkinstall instead of 'make install' at the end so you have a package)
[20:03] <SemiNus> ok, I try it :)
[20:03] <SemiNus> thank you
 yeah..hw can i do this?
[20:09] <daftykins> mrsam_: they are android apps for connecting to a Linux system via SSH, install one on your android device.
so how can i remote other linux with my linux?
[20:11] <daftykins> are you talking about the GUI, or command line (SSH) ?
[20:11] <daftykins> !ssh
i wanna connect to my friend's linux and solve his problem
[20:12] <daftykins> yes, so GUI or command line?
[20:12] <daftykins> help me... to help you.
[20:12] <Na3iL> mrsam_: you can open an SSH into his pc
GUI
[20:13] <daftykins> check out teamviewer.
 and for command line?
[20:14] <gregor_> Ist hier jemand Deutsch hab ne Frage
[20:15] <akik> !de
[20:15] <gregor_> Ok danke
[20:16] <daftykins> mrsam_: i answered that 3 times, try readnig.
[20:16] <daftykins> reading too
 how can i use ssh? say to me
[20:17] <daftykins> i already told you that, too - with links
[20:17] <daftykins> READ.
i wanna remote other ubuntu with my ubuntu not by phone
[20:20] <ShadowM00n> mrsam_: then the answer you seek is in the reading material he gave you. ssh is available on Ubuntu as well as Android.
[20:21] <daftykins> mrsam_: as above, please try to not ask something again before you look at what you've been told
[20:21] <bazhang> mrsam_, please fully read all the documentation given first
[20:22] <bazhang> mrsam_, thats a basic requirement in such a situation
so now..i want to connet to other linux with ip <IP_ADDRESS>....what is my command to use/?
[20:22] <bazhang> mrsam_, have you fully read all the links given to you
[20:23] <mrsam_> ok
[20:23] <mrsam_> tnx
[20:23] <bazhang> mrsam_, did you read them first before reasking just twenty seconds later
[20:24] <frostythesnowman> hi, does anyone know of a shortcut to clearing all cookies and sessions for only my localhost domain?
[20:25] <attendee> Hey, guys, we (local python meetup group) set up some laptops with ubuntu for people who show up without laptops!
i know but how can i open it can u say to me simplely?
[20:26] <k1l> mrsam_: "ssh" is the command
[20:26] <attendee> I'd like to give the users an experience like a live cd, where they can install anything they like as a guest, but it won't affect the base system, and their changes will go away when they log off.
[20:27] <attendee> halp! :)
[20:27] <mrsam_> so i wanna connet to this ip <IP_ADDRESS>...what command do i write?
[20:27] <commonlisp_win>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER commonlisp_win ykrkfsiebbrn
[20:27] <daftykins> attendee: use a VM.
[20:27] <rockyroad> hi there, I have a problem with kde "K" menu "leave" actions (shutdown, restart, logout ...). Sometimes they don't do anything and I need do poweroff from the command line. What could be the issue ?
[20:27] <daftykins> commonlisp_win: delete the leading space and do that in the status window :)
[20:28] <k1l> mrsam_: ssh user@ip if there is an opensshserver running already.
[20:28] <attendee> daftykins: ok, giving that some thought, any other suggestions? got a workflow?
[20:28] <daftykins> attendee: it wasn't clear really whether you mean you're putting ubuntu on peoples systems as the only OS or what
 what is the USeR? do i write his pc's name?
[20:28] <xcelq> is anybody here having issue with wifi drivers going in and out?
[20:29] <rockyroad> I'm running now linux mint 17.2/kde but the same thing happens "sometimes" to a friend with a fresh Kubuntu 15.10
[20:29] <k1l> !ssh | mrsam_
[20:29] <attendee> It's the only OS on these loaner laptops (they won't be taking them home with them)
[20:29] <daftykins> rockyroad: we don't help with Mint.
[20:29] <xcelq> mint goes into the trash here
[20:29] <daftykins> rockyroad: so you won't be able to take any advice and apply it elsewhere
[20:29] <rockyroad> and with Kubuntu ?
[20:29] <commonlisp_win> test
[20:29] <daftykins> you're not running it, so best the actual person comes here to ask
[20:29] <xcelq> rockyroad i tried kde
[20:29] <xcelq> i don't like it at all
[20:30] <k1l> mrsam_: if you dont even know this please take a look into the documents. this is basic terminal knowledge.
[20:30] <xcelq> read the man page
[20:31] <Guest5039> HELLO
[20:31] <rockyroad> anybody interested ?
[20:31] <ShadowM00n> attendee: any reason not to just use a livecd?
[20:31] <asdopas> (Ubuntu 15.10) Ubuntu is only recognizing 640x480 on my Optiquest Q7 monitor, when it used to have the full resolution of 1280x1024. How do I fix this?
[20:31] <ioria> right
 i do this...tnx :D im connecting
[20:32] <Guest5039>  am new
[20:32] <Guest5039> any body say hello to ;e
[20:32] <Bashing-om> !manual | Guest5039
[20:32] <sruli> has anyone tried dual boot on a mac ? (ubuntu+ appleos)
[20:33] <sruli> my question is if it can work smoothly
[20:33] <Bashing-om> !mac | sruli Have you seen ::
[20:33] <asus> ciao
[20:35] <Guest5039> hi
[20:35] <Guest5039> hi
[20:35] <attendee> ok, where do I store the VM image where the guest can't touch it?
[20:35] <sruli> Bashing-om: tnx
[20:35] <Bashing-om> sruli: :) great luck . See ya soon up and running .
[20:36] <sruli> Bashing-om: was that sarcastic? if its gonna be hell, i'm not gonna start
[20:36] <Bashing-om> Guest5039: Hello, Welcome to ubuntu support . You have a support request ?
[20:37] <ioria> attendee, the user will touch it 1 the real system won't
[20:37] <Bashing-om> sruli: No, not at all .. Many have done it .. I however have not, I have no direct ecperience on a MAc .
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[20:39] <k1l> MonkeyDust: check, r is working :)
[20:40] <Bashing-om> MonkeyDust: Your cat now learned the 'r' key ?
[20:40] <sruli> Bashing-om: thanks, i installed for many people ubuntu as dualboot to get people to start using linux, just now for the first time has someone asked me if i can do it on their mac
[20:40] <MWM> Im getting alot of errors with squid proxy.  I need : simpler proxy or someone who can translate what is incorrect in a specific line
[20:40] <akik> attendee: if you just create normal user accounts without sudo rights, you can just remove their home directories later on
[20:41] <akik> attendee: oh scratch that, i didn't notice the installation requirement
[20:41] <Bashing-om> sruli: You do good ! ... I too install for many , Here, to this time. I have yet too to be asked to install on a MAc .
[20:42] <sruli> Bashing-om: thanks
[20:42] <MWM> bungled line 7163
[20:45] <ioria> attendee, there is also the Guest Account
[20:45] <attendee> yeah, but they can't install anything with that
[20:46] <daftykins> attendee: i don't really see why you would need to protect the image, just store them in an obscure path and have something like virtualbox discard changes
so when i want to connet to other linux by ssh i receive this error:::ip xx.xx.xx.xx port 22 connetion refuse
[20:49] <k1l> mrsam_: is there a ssh server running?
just install it
[20:49] <daftykins> you need to forward port 22 on a NAT router.
[20:50] <ShadowM00n> the address he gave before was local, iirc
[20:50] <daftykins> lol nice
 how can i do this?
[20:50] <daftykins> answer whether you're connecting to your friend over the internet, first.
[20:50] <anom> Hai, everyime I reboot my keyboard gets reset to US
[20:50] <anom> So I have to do: setxkbmap -layout gb
[20:50] <anom> is there anyway to make this fixed? So it doesnt reset on every reboot?
just say simplely how can i solve it..say to me ur steps
[20:51] <daftykins> mrsam_: no answer the question first.
[20:51] <daftykins> it influences the answer
[20:51] <ShadowM00n> <IP_ADDRESS> ought to be local, if that's indeed the right IP
 i wanna  connrt to my friend with publice ip
[20:52] <attendee> ok, no security by obscurity
[20:52] <mrsam_> <IP_ADDRESS> was an example
[20:52] <daftykins> over the internet or not? answer my question.
 not
[20:52] <ShadowM00n> anom: isn't there a configuration option for that in GNOME/Unity/KDE/etc.'s control panel equivalent?
[20:52] <mrsam_> No
[20:53] <daftykins> mrsam_: so you didn't install openssh-server by the sounds of it.
[20:53] <daftykins> check it's running also by looking for :22 in "netstat -tuln"
 he installs it in his system
[20:53] <Bashing-om> anom: Unity ? The keyboard app indicator icon in the top panel. lick on that and select Text Entry Settings and we get the dialog to add or remove keyboard layouts.
[20:53] <daftykins> but if you're both sat in the same place what is the point in doing things remotely?
[20:54] <akik> attendee: virtualbox has a feature called immutable images, where the modifications are not saved to the image
[20:54] <attendee> akik: sweet, where can I find more?
[20:54] <daftykins> in virtualbox's docs :P
 we are connectin with publick ip...not in the same country
[20:55] <TJ-> mrsam_: if you're trying to connect to a public IP address, that public IP address needs to be the destination PC, or if it is a gateway router, it needs port-forwarding configured to pass the connection through to a PC on its LAN side
 u dont understand just speaking
[20:55] <ablest1980> hello need some help
so how can we connect?
[20:55] <ablest1980> EriC^^,
[20:56] <sruli> anyone with MAC experience? is it possible to clone a ubuntu partition onto a MAC drive?
[20:56] <daftykins> mrsam_: i already told you what to run to check SSH server is running.
ssh: connect to host xx.xxx.xx.xx port 22: Connection refused
[20:56] <ablest1980> ./boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'
[20:56] <TJ-> mrsam_: configure the gateway-router at the listening end(s) to port-forward to the PC on its LAN, for whatever SSH port you want to use
[20:56] <daftykins> mrsam_: so it is over the internet and you didn't tell me the truth, *sigh*
[20:57] <TJ-> mrsam_: see http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/
[20:58] <ablest1980> The upgrade needs a total of 81.8 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 17.4 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[20:58] <ablest1980> how do i remove extra kernels or old ones?
[20:58] <daftykins> ablest1980: sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:59] <TJ-> ablest1980: generally "sudo apt-get autoremove" will remove no-longer-required kernels
[20:59] <ablest1980> did that
[20:59] <daftykins> ablest1980: pastebin "dpkg -l | grep linux-"
[20:59] <ablest1980> ok
[21:01] <ablest1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14105898/
[21:01] <Fighting> hai
[21:03] <daftykins> ablest1980: also "ls -al /boot" and "df -h" ?
[21:05] <daftykins> ablest1980: keep it to one channel and chop chop :)
[21:06] <frecel> is there a way to increase the size of the top bar and the task bar icons in unity7?
[21:06] <frecel> I found a way to make the font bigger but that's about it
[21:07] <ShadowM00n> frecel: launcher, yes; look into unity-tweak-tool for an easy way. I don't think the menu bar can be much adjusted though.
[21:07] <OerHeks> scaling
[21:07] <frecel> ShadowM00n: yeah I increased the size of the launcher already
[21:07] <frecel> I'm trying to make things more touch friendly
[21:07] <ShadowM00n> frecel: my mistake, misread "task bar icons"
[21:07] <OerHeks> systemsettings > display > scaling
[21:08] <OerHeks> else the panel is hardcoded
[21:08] <frecel> Welp, nothing left to do but blame popey then
[21:08] <popey> \o/
[21:10] <ablest1980> ok im back
[21:10] <ablest1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14106088/
[21:10] <ablest1980> ^
[21:10] <daftykins> yay
[21:10] <ShadowM00n> seems a different crowd is active, so I'll take the liberty of trying again: any suggestions on where to begin troubleshooting a failure to reboot/halt when using upstart on 15.10? Last messages suggest the filesystem and swap are successfully dismounted.
[21:10] <ablest1980> all 3 in one paste
[21:11] <daftykins> ablest1980: sudo dpkg -r linux-image-extra-3.13.0-68-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-67-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-66-generic linux-image-3.13.0-68-generic linux-image-3.13.0-67-generic linux-image-3.13.0-66-generic
[21:11] <ablest1980> ok
[21:12] <daftykins> then resume what you were doing perhaps with "sudo apt-get -f install"
[21:12] <frecel> It's embarrasing how much better chromium is on touch screens compared to firefox
[21:13] <daftykins> frecel: you're going off topic there, support only in this chan
[21:13] <Bashing-om> daftykins: ablest1980 You will need operation headromm for " uname -r >> 3.13.0-74-generic " a new kernel has hit my mirror .
[21:13] <ablest1980> do "sudo apt-get -f install" now?
[21:14] <daftykins> that or dance the funky chicken
[21:14] <ablest1980> lol
[21:14]  * ablest1980 does both
[21:14] <daftykins> now that's multi-tasking with ubuntu
[21:14] <ablest1980> :)
[21:16] <KeeperoftheKeys> Hi anyone around?
[21:16] <ablest1980> ok its works now ty
[21:16] <daftykins> np
[21:16] <ablest1980> bye
[21:16] <daftykins> KeeperoftheKeys: shoot.
[21:23] <MWM> is there some sort of conflict between squid and samba?  I cant see squid in webmin
[21:24] <daftykins> !webmin
[21:24] <daftykins> shouldn't be using that.
[21:24] <neredsevy> Is it possible to make a launcher shortcut that executes a .sh script ?
[21:25] <MWM> I need crutches for linux until I leanr the ropes.  i was hoping webmin would fill the gap until I got my "sea legs"
[21:26] <spaok> MWM: I'm just walking into this room, but cockpit is pretty nice for web admin stuff
[21:26] <daftykins> MWM: if you don't do it right from the start, you never will.
[21:26] <sruli> neredsevy: which version are u using?
[21:27] <reduce> i installed ubuntu server and then ubuntu-desktop no recomended apps
[21:27] <reduce> the desktop now just shows the background
[21:27] <daftykins> graphics issues perhaps
[21:27] <reduce> ctrl alt t gets me a terminal
[21:27] <MWM> daftykins: if I wait util I know how to do it right then Ill never have any fun :)  Youre right but Im a cheater
[21:27] <daftykins> MWM: allow me to swiftly ignore then!
[21:27] <sruli> reduce: have you installed unity?
[21:27] <spaok> I was hoping someone here might be able to help me with a MAAS thing I'm running into, tried #maas but pretty quite there
[21:28] <reduce> sruli: nothing after what i stated i installed earlier
[21:28] <daftykins> spaok: if it's not proper ubuntu it's not matching the topic i would say
[21:28] <MWM> spaok : thanks Ill look into it
[21:28] <sruli> reduce: you need to install unity or other menu launcher
[21:28] <spaok> daftykins: proper ubuntu being what? it's ubuntu, MAAS is a ubuntu thing, the issue is on ubuntu
[21:28] <neredsevy> sruli: 14.04
[21:29] <daftykins> i know it is, nevermind you missed the point -> moving on
[21:29] <spaok> i'm mostly familiar with RHEL
[21:29] <sruli> neredsevy: which flavour? ubuntu?
[21:29] <neredsevy> desktop ubuntu
[21:29] <TJ-> MWM: you probably need to install the squid webmin module, via Webmin Configuration > Webmin Modules > 'standard module from www.webmin.com' (press ... button) and find the 'squid' module
[21:30] <MWM> TJ : thanks
[21:32] <KeeperoftheKeys> So I found an interesting problem that blows my mind that it was missed, kernel 4.2 seems to completely lack support for detecting HDDs on one of the motherboards I use, I also noticed at least one question on ask.ubuntu which seems to suggest that user also suffered the same issue.
[21:33] <KeeperoftheKeys> My methodology
[21:33] <daftykins> standard 3.5" SATA I/II/III mechanical HDD?
[21:33] <sruli> neredsevy: "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends gnome-panel" , then to create shortcut "gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new"  point it to your .sh script
[21:33] <KeeperoftheKeys> yup
[21:34] <daftykins> sounds like it could be on a secondary controller on your motherboard, can you link to the specific mobo model?
[21:35] <KeeperoftheKeys> probably, I'm not at home now, but I have an lshw from the machine here so I'll see
[21:36] <daftykins> KeeperoftheKeys: different coloured SATA ports is often a dead giveaway
[21:36] <KeeperoftheKeys> (after 15.04>15.10 upgrade system became unbootable except with old kernel tried 15.10 disk-on-key didn't recognize disks)
[21:36] <KeeperoftheKeys> hmmm
[21:37] <daftykins> if it was an upgrade, testing a 15.10 live session would be handy
[21:37] <KeeperoftheKeys> dunno, is at least a year ago I put it together, but very likely, I believ it has both sata2 and sata 3 ports, otoh lspci is identical under kernel 3.9 & 4.2
[21:37] <KeeperoftheKeys> live session test also did not recognize disks
[21:37] <daftykins> it would be
[21:38] <daftykins> well feel free to pastebin said lshw somewhere like paste.ubuntu.com
[21:38] <KeeperoftheKeys> shall I stick both 3.9 & 4.2 in the same paste?
[21:39] <MWM> working GUI for squid?
[21:39] <sruli> anyone with MAC experience? is it possible to clone a ubuntu partition onto a MAC drive?
[21:40] <KeeperoftheKeys> squid-cache has so many options that I doubt anyone can make a complete GUI
[21:40] <MWM> Ive got no Mac experience but I dont know that Mac will read anything but Mac.  However you might be able to run in a virtual machine?  just a guess
[21:42] <sruli> MWM: it is possible to install ubuntu as dual boot on mac, i just want to know if i have to install it or a cloned partition would work fine
[21:42] <nicomachus> sruli: yea it's possible.
[21:43] <sruli> nicomachus: possible to clone part on to mac drive?
[21:43] <nicomachus> well, should be. I also have no mac experience.
[21:43] <MWM> sruli: I would imagine that you would install and then restore from an image in that case... but Im still just guessing
[21:43] <sruli> tnx
[21:43] <reduce> i cant find the package to instal the unity hud
[21:43] <reduce> or unity menu launcher or whatever its called
[21:43] <sruli> is there anyone with MAC experience around?
[21:44] <MWM> Is there a more user friendly package I can use than squid?  Im in a bit over my head with squid
[21:44] <reduce> any ideas what its called?
[21:44] <sruli> reduce: unity
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> reduce  dash
[21:44] <sruli> reduce: are you using ubuntu or lubuntu etc?
[21:45] <reduce> im using ubuntu server with ubuntu desktop installed with no recommended apps
[21:45] <reduce> synaptic tells me i have the "unity" package installed already
[21:46] <sruli> reduce: apt-get install unity
[21:46] <reduce> i also have "dash" installed according to it
[21:46] <reduce> sruli: ill try it
[21:46] <sruli> reduce: u have hud installed?
[21:47] <reduce> there is no package called "hud" in synaptic
[21:47] <reduce> sorry im talking bs
[21:47] <reduce> sruli: yes it says it is installed
[21:47] <reduce> "backend for unity hud"
[21:48] <sruli> reduce: sudo service lightdm status
[21:49] <reduce> stop/waiting
[21:49] <reduce> sruli: ^
[21:49] <sruli> reduce: seems like that is ur problem
[21:50] <bodom> Hi there! Since last upgrade, i can't switch to terminal (CTRL+ALT+F1) anymore. Here is what happens when i try: http://picpaste.com/z8RMB0Ny.jpg
[21:50] <sruli> bodom: same when you try F2?
[21:51]  * reduce tried a reboot
[21:51] <bodom> sruli: the noise changes when i try f2
[21:51] <sruli> bodom: u upgraded from what to what?
[21:51] <daftykins> looks like a driver issue
[21:52] <bodom> sruli: from 15.04 to 15.10
[21:55] <sruli> bodom: what graphics card and driver are u using?
[21:55] <bodom> sruli: nvidia 340.96
[21:56] <daftykins> try 346
[21:58] <bodom> daftykins: apparently there only are 340 and 352 available
[21:58] <whiteowl> huaaah
[21:58] <sruli> bodom: just for testing can u use x.org driver?
[21:59] <sora> do you prefer mysql or postgresql? :3
[21:59] <bodom> sruli: which one?
[21:59] <daftykins> i think sruli means nouveau, the open source nvidia driver
[21:59] <daftykins> but that'd be moot because it probably would be fine depending on what the card is
[22:00] <bodom> oh, i had so many problems with nouveau in the past and didn't read anything better more recently. i do not think that's an option.
[22:01] <reduce> i logged in as guest
[22:01] <daftykins> so just try changing driver
[22:01] <reduce> im not sure how to logout again
[22:01] <sruli> reduce: and?
[22:01] <reduce> (unity)
[22:01] <reduce> sruli: my issue is reolved :)
[22:02] <reduce> sruli: now i just need to learn to use unit
[22:02] <reduce> y
[22:02] <sruli> reduce: great
[22:02] <reduce> there is no obvious logout button
[22:03] <reduce> perhaps --no-recommends-apps was not a good option for me
[22:03] <reduce> :P
[22:03] <sruli> reduce: top right u shoud have a star shaped button, you dont?
[22:03]  * rostyk is away: Pracuji
[22:04] <reduce> sruli: no, just En, audio icon and time
[22:04] <reduce> strl alt del worked though :)
[22:05] <sruli> reduce: maybe reinstall with recommends
[22:06] <reduce> sruli: ill do that if i run into anymore issues
[22:07] <sruli> reduce: if you go to Settings > Time & Date > Clock tab , do u have an option "show a clock in teh menu bar" ?
[22:08] <reduce> sruli: yes, when i untick it im left with a whole
[22:08] <reduce> *hole
[22:08] <sruli> reduce: while ticked do u have the time on top bar?
[22:08] <reduce> yes, rightmost 'icon'
[22:09] <sruli> reduce: anything else on top bar?
[22:09] <reduce> leftmost it says system settings, then beside the time i have the audio icon, beside that the En icon
[22:10] <sruli> reduce: do u have "indicator-session" installed?
[22:11] <reduce> sruli: no - is that what i need?
[22:12] <sruli> reduce: i believe so, in synaptic search for "indicator" there are others which might be useful
[22:12] <OerHeks> apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop is the quickest way to get out of that funny install
[22:13] <reduce> you guys win
[22:13] <reduce> ill run it :)
[22:13] <sruli> reduce: i agree with Oerheks
[22:32] <MWM> move to a specified line with nano?
[22:32] <curlyears> hello
[22:34] <sruli> MWM: u mean go to line number?
[22:34] <curlyears> I insstallled the latest siftware updater from Canonical into my LTS14.02. and it killed mu OS.  System will bot bootk.
[22:34] <MWM> srule: yes
[22:34] <MWM> er sruli
[22:34] <sruli> MWM: nano +#(line_number filename
[22:35] <daftykins> curlyears: that's not a real version
[22:35] <MWM> so sudo nano /path/to/file +# ?
[22:35] <drroot> hi
[22:36] <sruli> MWM +# before path
[22:36] <curlyears> dattykins:  ??
[22:36] <drroot> Hi
[22:36] <daftykins> !recovery | curlyears
[22:36] <MWM> sruli: sweeeeet thanks
[22:37] <sruli> MWM: pleasure
[22:38] <UserUS> can you install windows from in a ubuntu shell?
[22:39] <sruli> MWM: to go to line number while in nano ctrl+shift+- will promt for line number
[22:39] <MWM> sruli : even better!
[22:40] <anabain> how should I set permissions on /media/user/USBdevice in order to be able to access the plugged device through a rbind mount made in /etc/fstab at /mountdir/media/user/USBdevice ? Right now, as user I get a permission error. As root, ls outputs nothing.
[22:41] <daftykins> UserUS: only with VM technology
[22:41] <daftykins> and even then you'd need a working GUI :P
[22:41] <UserUS> I can work without one, if I can run the software alongside the mounted drive and it will run
[22:42] <MWM> FATAL: Bungled /etc/squid3/squid.conf line 3038: cache_dir rock Directory-Name Mbytes <max-size=bytes> [options
[22:42] <nicomachus> UserUS: what's the software?
[22:42] <UserUS> nicomachus: Windows 7 install
[22:43] <nicomachus> UserUS: yea you'll need a VM then...
[22:43] <daftykins> UserUS: what are you trying to achieve?
[22:43] <MWM> whats wrong with this line?  this is how it is configured out of the box?  All I can guess is that it needs to be commented out?
[22:46] <sruli> MWM: to see which line u are currently at alt+c in nano will give u a status bar at the bottom with line number
[22:46] <MWM> sruli: thanks I made it to the line but I cant figure out what the problem is FATAL: Bungled /etc/squid3/squid.conf line 3038: cache_dir rock Directory-Name Mbytes <max-size=bytes> [options
[22:47] <nolsen_> Is there a way to disable apt's autoremove?
[22:47] <nolsen_> Because last time I used it, I had to reinstall Ubuntu because it broke my DEs.
[22:47] <sruli> MWM: sorry never used squid
[22:47] <MWM> sruli: me neither :)
[22:48] <daftykins> time to read their docs
[22:48] <nicomachus> nolsen_: just don't type in the command?
[22:49] <nolsen_> nicomachus, Then I get that annoying message every time I use apt.
[22:49] <nicomachus> nolsen_: what packages is auto-removing removing that is breaking your DE? and what DE is it?
[22:51] <nolsen_> ...is there a way to turn off autoremove....
[22:52] <UserUS> daftykins: Install W7 on a drive that's on the same disk as ubuntu. Windows 7 installer won't recognize the drivers, but ubuntu does.
[22:52] <daftykins> UserUS: "drivers" - what?
[22:53] <daftykins> what's special about your disks?
[22:53] <UserUS> hardware drivers. won't even detect the hardware or gpu card.
[22:53] <daftykins> you wouldn't see a picture if that were true
[22:54] <UserUS> I know
[22:54] <UserUS> That's what it was doing
[22:54] <daftykins> you realise in Windows 7 you have to manually install drivers right? mostly.
[22:54] <UserUS> Didn't help the hard drive was near failing
[22:54] <UserUS> I did
[22:54] <UserUS> and updated bios
[22:55] <daftykins> that's only wise when needed
[22:55] <daftykins> so you're saying you installed win7 but that it was having graphics driver issues?
[22:55] <daftykins> there is no way you can install Windows through Linux, that's ridiculous
[22:56] <UserUS> the person who owns it installed a 64-bit graphics card update which screwed up other ones with it
[22:56] <UserUS> it's 32-bit, and they installed amd graphics updates for an intel graphics card
[22:57] <daftykins> ok, your details of this are getting so far removed from sanity you need to start from the start
[22:57] <daftykins> so someone has come to you with a broken Windows install?
[22:57] <daftykins> so this has nothing to do with ubuntu at all?
[22:58] <UserUS> Lol, yes. To begin with, the OS had malware, tons of it. I removed the malware (and a few rootkits) until they installed the incorrect software and messed up the registry, which messed up the kernel
[22:58] <nicomachus> so what does this have to do with ubuntu... at all?
[22:58] <UserUS> only a linux kernel will run for some reason, aka ubuntu
[22:58] <daftykins> that's not how Windows works, you're making up terms and throwing them in
[22:58] <daftykins> go to ##windows
[22:59] <daftykins> 32-bit drivers do not install on a 64-bit Windows, so the above story is 100% wrong
[23:00] <UserUS> are you serious? you can easily install even a 64-bit os on a 32-bit machine. I've done it, it just doesn't load any gui's after it boots lol
[23:01] <bodom> no luck: any nvidia driver still gives me the same issue
[23:02] <sruli> bodom: as i said before to see if its the driver issue try the x.org dirver, if it works then we know whats causing it
[23:02] <daftykins> UserUS: my bad the opposite way, you said 64-bit drivers on a 32-bit windows, that doesn't work - you're chatting rubbish. go to ##windows thanks.
[23:03] <bodom> sruli: I've been using nvidia-340 for many years and it didn't seem to change. What you call the xorg driver will just cause me more problems.
[23:03] <ZorCocuK> Hi
[23:04] <sruli> bodom: use it just to test the issue
[23:04] <bekks> bodom: yeah, because you are not using nvidia-340-updates
[23:04] <bodom> bekks: no, i'm not
[23:04] <anabain> can anybody tell me where to learn about how permissions are set on plugged devices under /media dir?
[23:05] <bekks> bodom: nvidia-340 does not contain updates, nvidia-340-updates does contain updates.
[23:05] <bodom> bekks: 304,340,346,352 all have the same behaviour
[23:05] <bodom> and 240 used to work for a very long time
[23:05] <bodom> *340
[23:05] <bekks> bodom: yeah, nvidia-xyz dooes not contain updates, nvidia-xyz-updates does.
[23:06] <bekks> bodom: So whats the issue with that?
[23:06] <daftykins> bodom: let's save some time here. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[23:07] <conall> Hi all. Trying to install 15.10. Currently 15.04 and windows 7 duel booted. Running into issues regarding uefi vs legacy boot. Currently using legacy boot but when I boot into ubuntu usb with legacy mode I get a kernel panic. When I boot into ubuntu uefi it doesnt see the windows installation. What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance
[23:07] <daftykins> you can't mix the two
[23:08] <daftykins> you must install all OSs in the same mode
[23:08] <bodom> bekks: http://picpaste.com/z8RMB0Ny.jpg what's what i get when i switch to console
[23:08] <bekks> conall: And why dont you just upgrade your 15.04 to 15.10?
[23:08] <bodom> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/B6hcf6eC
[23:09] <bekks> bodom: try using the nomodeset kernel parameter then.
[23:09] <conall> The new ubuntu wont detect it, so I think I wont be able to boot into it????
[23:09] <bekks> conall: that sentence doesnt make sense in the context of my question.
[23:09] <daftykins> bodom: yeah your system is a mess, "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " then reboot; then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-340-updates as bekks said if you can
[23:10] <bodom> bekks: mhhh
[23:11] <bodom> daftykins: what do you mean by "mess"?
[23:11] <conall> sorry bekks, im pretty new to all this. when I do an "os-prober" it will not detect the windows partition, so when grub-update is run at the end of the install, Im afraid I wont be able to boot into windows
[23:11] <bekks> conall: Why dont you update your 15.04 to 15.10?
[23:11] <bekks> conall: Why do you run os-proper?
[23:11] <daftykins> bodom: you're mixing 3 different nvidia package versions there
[23:12] <conall> oh, sorry bekks, I understand, do you mean from the software repo?
[23:12] <bekks> conall: Yes.
[23:12] <bodom> daftykins: i only have 240 installed
[23:12] <bodom> *340
[23:12] <bekks> bodom: you have several versions installed.
[23:12] <conall> ah, my current install is quite clogged. And I hear a fresh install is cleaner than an upgrade
[23:13] <daftykins> bodom: do what i said.
[23:13] <bekks> conall: then just clean it up. this isnt windows.
[23:13] <conall> bekks, basically I want a nice clean fresh install
[23:14] <conall> bekks, probably a good idea. Thanks
[23:14] <bekks> conall: Why? This isnt windows. It will not be any faster, better or bigger.
[23:14] <bodom> bekks, daftykins: http://pastebin.com/UJ55uY1p
[23:14] <bekks> bodom: Do what daftykins said.
[23:14] <bodom> i can still purge the others, but only 340 is installed
[23:14] <daftykins> bodom: that's not relevant, run what i said for the love of Tux
[23:14] <conall> Well I noticed that my current ubuntu install is quite slow to boot and gets alot of those annoying errors
[23:15] <bekks> conall: So fix the errors.
[23:15] <conall> ill try bekks, thanks
[23:17] <bodom> daftykins: neverming, thank you for your time
[23:17] <nicomachus> bodom: what he said will solve your issue. it will take 5 minutes.
[23:17] <nicomachus> or less.
[23:19] <daftykins> bodom: do the lot then add back in the one desired to be run, i have given advice like this for years and avoiding it like you are now is being purely idiotic.
[23:19] <daftykins> i know you think being removed means they're not a problem, but you are WRONG.
[23:20] <Xcody> why you guys mad
[23:20] <nicomachus> lol. not mad, it's just frustrating when you spend time trying to help people and they don't want to take the advice that will resolve their issues.
[23:20] <bodom> daftykins: man your advice is only leading to troubles, don't call me idiot for not following it, since i didn't call you the same for suggesting it
[23:20] <bekks> bodom: that adbvice will not lead to any troubles.
[23:21] <daftykins> ^
[23:21] <bekks> bodom: he didnt call you names, but you obviously dont know the difference between purge and remove.
[23:21] <daftykins> re-read the bit about years.
[23:21] <bekks> So stop discussing this and just do what he told you to.
[23:21] <nicomachus> or don't, and keep having problems.
[23:22] <bodom> awww man, everybody seems out of hid mind here. Fine, let's do this waste of time just to prove you all are wrong.
[23:24] <MWM> does that mean you were wrong?
[23:25] <daftykins> does what
[23:25] <daftykins> i guarantee it will not be performed correctly.
[23:35] <bodom> Nice. So it didn't solve anything, and my screen setup is now gone.   I am using Razar Naga Taipan currently. Thanks!
[23:42] <min> it is moving way too fast and I am having hard time resizing windows
[23:42] <bekks> min: so reduce mouse speed in the sttings.
[23:42] <nicomachus> min: you can use xinput. I'm not sure if MATE has it in a GUI settings menu anywhere or not.
[23:43] <min> ok thank you
[23:43] <nicomachus> min: if you do "xinput list" you can find the id=# for your mouse, and then "xinput list-props #" to find Device Accel Constant Deceleration value.
[23:44] <min> bekks: i am sorry it is already in the lowest setting for acceleration
[23:44] <codepython777> anyone using linode here?
[23:44] <bekks> codepython777: what if?
[23:44] <nicomachus> min: this will probably be helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/172972/configure-mouse-speed-not-pointer-acceleration
[23:44] <min> nicomachus: thank you!
[23:45] <nicomachus> min: if it's already set to 1.000000, I'm not sure if you can go sub-1. but you can try.
[23:45] <codepython777> bekks: I apologize. Has someone used linode to pre-pay for a year? Are there any benefits with that?
[23:46] <bekks> codepython777: Can you elaborate the ubuntu relevance of your question?
[23:46] <codepython777> bekks: wrong room - sorry
[23:46] <TJ-> codepython777: try the #linode  channel on the oftc network
[23:46] <min> nicomachus: yeah it is already 1.000000 =(
[23:47] <klados> HI a new Ubuntu entusiasm from Costa Rica
[23:47] <sruli> maybe we should send some flowers to bodom for wasting his time
[23:47] <nicomachus> min: i think increasing that value will actually slow it donw.
[23:47] <nicomachus> down*
[23:48] <codepython777> TJ-: no answer from there yet. I was looking to pre-paid cloud accounts for a year. Seems like linode/vultr/do have the same pricing these days
[23:48] <daftykins> still off topic :)
[23:50] <TJ-> codepython777: I've been with Linode since they started; excellent support, frequent package upgrades, extremely reliable, very flexible. I have Ubuntu Server on them, now with the KVM hypervisor
[23:50] <codepython777>  TJ-: which plan did you buy
[23:51] <min> nicomachus: hey it works, thank you so much
[23:51] <codepython777> TJ-: which ubuntu server?
[23:51] <nicomachus> min: \o/ yay
[23:51] <codepython777> TJ-: I'm debating between DO and Linode
[23:51] <TJ-> codepython777: whatever suits the task, and LTS releases
[23:52] <min> oh man this is cool, thanks
[23:56] <anabain> How do I change the default permissions for automounted vfat USB media so that they can be accessed through a /media rbind mount, e.g., /mount/media/user/USBdevice?
[23:56] <min> nicomachus: thank you, I'd appreciate your help and have a great day!
[23:57] <bekks> anabain: you dint need to change permissions for diong so. whats the actual issue you are trying to solve?
[23:57] <bekks> *dont
[23:58] <anabain> bekks, for example: ls /mount/media/user/USBdevice complains about permissions. As root, it just outputs nothing...


[01:23] <Rapadura> Hello People, UpStart Works on the Slackware?
[01:24] <Keybuk> it should do
[11:24] [jenda(n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda)]  help


[00:20] <CIA-3> partman-base: cjwatson * r193 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog parted_server.c): Tell libparted not to use cylinder alignment (LP: #539456).
[00:23] <CIA-3> partman-base: cjwatson * r194 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 138ubuntu4
[00:28] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3939 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): Automatic update of included source packages: partman-base 138ubuntu4.
[00:33] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3940 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.2.3
[09:49] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3941 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/ubi-language.py):
[09:49] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Properly set the text for the release notes label after the user
[09:49] <CIA-3> ubiquity: runs the 'update this installer' option.
[09:50]  * ev discovers dch -U
[09:50] <ev> it's all about the small victories
[11:00] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3942 ubiquity/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Correctly set up GtkComboBoxEntry widgets (LP: #539204).
[11:25] <davmor2> ev: wubi isn't working
[11:25] <davmor2> No CD detected, cannot run CD menu
[11:26] <ev> bah
[11:27] <ev> looking
[11:39] <CIA-3> wubi: evand * r173 trunk/ (data/isolist.ini debian/changelog): Bump to 10.04
[11:39] <ev> *ahem* whoops
[11:42] <davmor2> ev: do you want to ask for a respin
[11:42] <ev> no, but I will make it known in -release
[11:43] <cjwatson> there's at least one other thing I'm worried about ...
[11:43] <ev> eh?
[11:44] <cjwatson> -release
[11:44] <davmor2> cjwatson: if you want a respin do it sooner than latter more time to test that way
[11:45] <cjwatson> davmor2: I don't want to have to respin twice though, and I don't have a fix for the "Enter kills X" problem yet
[11:45] <davmor2> cjwatson: man is that still an issue :(
[11:45] <cjwatson> I really hope I didn't create that with the change in 2.2.2
[11:46] <davmor2> I'm assuming aswell that although this is really alpha 4 because it has the word beta in it lots more people will install it :(
[11:47] <cjwatson> "really alpha 4"?
[11:48] <cjwatson> the idea was to have more beta-quality releases, rather than more alpha-quality releases ...
[11:50] <davmor2> cjwatson: Well you see no wubi, enter restarts x if you have nvidia gfx, etc etc etc  okay I'll be fair late alpha rather than mid alpha but you get what I mean :)
[11:50] <cjwatson> I didn't say we'd achieved it
[11:51] <cjwatson> (my enter-restarts-x is inside kvm not with nvidia, fwiw)
[11:51] <cjwatson> I imagine the condition is "plymouth's text plugin"
[11:51] <davmor2> cjwatson: wow that's regressed even further then
[11:52] <davmor2> cjwatson:  at one point it only effect nv cards with the nvidia binary installed
[11:52] <cjwatson> well, it may be a race
[11:55] <davmor2> cjwatson: Oh and I know how much you like tracking those down ;)
[11:56]  * cjwatson tries backing out the change in 2.2.2 as an experiment
[11:56] <cjwatson> not that that proves anything - I could easily just be reintroducing some other bug that way, I'd just like to have the datum point
[12:00] <davmor2> partition resize seems to be taking longer against ntfs
[12:01] <davmor2> it is however working so I'm not too bothered :)
[12:01] <michaelforrest> I used the installer on an original Asus EEE PC the other day.
[12:02] <michaelforrest> I noticed it detected the internal hard drive as being empty, even though it had Xandros on there...
[12:04] <cjwatson> oh, here, isn't this what was fixed in bug 538213?  just need a newer plymouth then ...
[12:04] <cjwatson> michaelforrest: do you still have it in a state where you can reproduce this?
[12:05] <michaelforrest> I'm not sure I do :(
[12:05] <cjwatson> michaelforrest: oh.  can't help then :-(
[12:05] <michaelforrest> I'll be trying it again over the next couple of days
[12:05] <michaelforrest> then I'll know
[12:05] <cjwatson> if you see this kind of thing again, I'd really appreciate if you could report immediately and bug me about it
[12:05] <davmor2> cjwatson: certainly looks like it.
[12:05] <cjwatson> since I might at least be able to extract enough information to reproduce it
[12:05] <michaelforrest> yeah I didn't really think about it at the time to be honest - just wanted to get home!
[12:05] <michaelforrest> but yeah
[12:05] <michaelforrest> I'll try to reproduce it
[12:06] <cjwatson> thanks
[12:06] <cjwatson> it's typically a parted bug
[13:03] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3943 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):
[13:03] <CIA-3> ubiquity: * Port from base-installer:
[13:03] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  - Ensure that Acquire::cdrom::AutoDetect is disabled when running
[13:03] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  apt-cdrom. We bind-mount /target/cdrom, so apt's new libudev-based
[13:03] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  autodetection isn't needed during installation (LP: #539170).
[13:24] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3941 lucid-beta-1/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):
[13:24] <CIA-3> ubiquity: * Port from base-installer:
[13:24] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  - Ensure that Acquire::cdrom::AutoDetect is disabled when running
[13:24] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  apt-cdrom. We bind-mount /target/cdrom, so apt's new libudev-based
[13:24] <CIA-3> ubiquity:  autodetection isn't needed during installation (LP: #539170).
[13:26] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3942 lucid-beta-1/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.2.4
[13:36] <CIA-3> usb-creator: evand * r279 usb-creator/ (bin/usb-creator-helper debian/changelog):
[13:36] <CIA-3> usb-creator: Don't try to unmount a partition in usb-creator-helper unless it
[13:36] <CIA-3> usb-creator: actually is mounted.
[17:21] <CIA-3> usb-creator: evand * r280 usb-creator/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/install.py):
[17:21] <CIA-3> usb-creator: Unmount the partition at the end of install using
[17:21] <CIA-3> usb-creator: usb-creator-helper rather than umount as a regular user.
[19:09] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3942 ubiquity.lucid-beta-1/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.2.4
[19:09] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3943 lucid-beta-1/ (d-i/make-keyboard-names debian/changelog):
[19:09] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Use a custom-generated locale when building keyboard_names.py
[19:09] <CIA-3> ubiquity: (LP: #540275).
[19:15] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3944 lucid-beta-1/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.2.5