[00:02] <leogtzr> Hola
[00:03] <petrenuk> Hi all! After upgrading to 14.04 I am having problems with OpenGL soft, it just renders black screen instead of images. Worked on Ubuntu 12
[00:03] <petrenuk> I use nvidia card and nouveau driver
[00:03] <leogtzr> hmmmm :/
[00:03] <petrenuk> More details here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/554090/opengl-does-not-work-properly-on-ubuntu-14-04-with-mesa-10-1-3
[00:05] <petrenuk> Please just advise where to start my search. I know many libraries changed: libglew, freeglut, etc. Maybe the context does not initialize properly?
[00:07] <petrenuk> can anyone help? I don't know what to try anymore.
[00:08] <Shortstraw8> petrenuk, What have you tried?
[00:09] <petrenuk> Not much because I am new to this stuff. I tried to change GLX_CONTEXT_VERSION from 3.3 to 3.1 or 3.0 but this does not help
[00:10] <petrenuk> I Shortstraw8, I believe the problem maybe not with driver itself, because other 3D software seems to work nicely
[00:10] <petrenuk> I Shortstraw8, e.g. the Meshlab works without issues
[00:11] <petrenuk> I Shortstraw8, maybe there's a way to enable some additional logging?
[00:15] <Shortstraw8> petrenuk, You may have more info than I do, I just had an issue with mine and had to install the nvidia instead of nouveau drivers. But mine was everything not working. Sorry cant help much with that.
[00:16] <petrenuk> Shortstraw8, np, thanks for trying. Strange problem...
[00:18] <Bashing-om> Shortstraw8: Consider from the liveDVD -> GParted, and re-format that drive and set up the partitions you want from GParted.
[00:21] <Shortstraw8> Bashing-om, I figured, just seeing if I was missing something in disk utility. Do really do too much so never needed GParted. Thanks.
[00:23] <Bashing-om> Shortstraw8: My best advise (GParted) .. Graphical application ... I normally use the terminal, good tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive .
[00:23] <Shortstraw8> petrenuk, Have you tried the nvidia drivers? I'm seeing some issues with rendering being fixed using 331.38 instead, which is what I did. The few articles I have scanned say it works better with OpenGl. Just an option maybe.
[00:25] <X2> hey whats the name of that cpu temp sensor package?
[00:25] <petrenuk> Shortstraw8, I did not try them. I need this soft to work on machines with all types of graphic cards, so I want to test it with mesa
[00:25] <X2> i think im getting too hot when i watch youtube
[00:25] <petrenuk> Shortstraw8, But I am planning to try nvidia drivers to understand at least the source of the problem
[00:26] <X2> petrenuk i have so much trouble with nvidia drivers lately, because legacy card
[00:26] <petrenuk> Shortstraw8, whether it is related to driver or not. Do you know how to replace mesa drivers with nvidia ones in 14.04?
[00:26] <bazhang> !sensors | x2
[00:26] <X2> ty
[00:27] <Bashing-om> X2: lm-sensors is one .
[00:27] <avoider> Happy Thanksgiving #ubuntu !!!!!
[00:28] <GODDOG> Happy Thanksgiving day
[00:28] <petrenuk> X2, the truth is that I see such problems on many machines: on Amazon instance with GPU and on VM without GPU at all (with mesa software emulation). So I hope these problems are related to context creation, or GLX usage or whatever, not to drivers
[00:31] <Shortstraw8> petrenuk, I see, sorry cant be of more help. Not specifically, maybe see if there is an askubuntu forum topic already if you have not yet done so.
[00:33] <petrenuk> Shortstraw8, I tried but I know so liitle about the problem. I'll try to search again after some research
[00:33] <Shortstraw8> Bashing-om, Thanks for the link I think I will practice that on one of my junk drives, my win is my gaming drive and I don't want to screw it up. Thanks again.
[00:35] <Bashing-om> Shortstraw8: Good deal .. For sure though for knowing grahically what you are doing, there is none better than GParted.
[00:36] <Shortstraw8> Bashing-om, Isnt it just sudo apt-get install gparted?
[00:36] <akurilin> Can a superuser still access the files of other users on the system if their home folders are encrypted?
[00:36] <akurilin> e.g. could you change a user's password and that way access their data?
[00:37] <Shortstraw8> Bashing-om, never mined spelled it wrong.
[00:37] <Bashing-om> Shortstraw8: One may -- it is installed by default on the desktop liveDVD .. remember, ( why you use it in the liveDVD ) can not work on drives while the fils system(s) is mounted .
[00:37] <leogtzr> yes ... akurilin
[00:38] <leogtzr> root user can do anything
[00:39] <akurilin> leogtzr: so there's no way of protecting a user's data from the superuser through OS means, unless that users encrypts her files with some other means?
[00:39] <leogtzr> that's correct ...
[00:41] <leogtzr> encfs ...
[00:41] <leogtzr> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EncFS
[00:45] <akurilin> leogtzr: the use case I'm trying to set up is having multiple users on the same machine who are all superusers, but still preventing them from seeing each other's home folders. e.g. say they want to set up LastPass on their Firefox browsers, if they were to change one another's password they could log in and access that data
[00:46] <akurilin> encfs could work, but admittedly you'd have to time enabling it just right so that all of the different applications place their state correctly in the right place
[00:47] <leogtzr> you could use groups ...
[00:47] <khaya> how to remotely connect to ubuntu 14.04 from windows 7
[00:47] <leogtzr> you should have only a root account ...
[00:48] <akurilin> leogtzr: sure, one root, but let's say all the users need sudo permissions
[00:48] <akurilin> say they're all Ops staff
[00:48] <leogtzr> sudo permissions for what? ...
[00:48] <leogtzr> you should give them permissions to modify only a few things ...
[00:48] <akurilin> creating more users, installing new shared apps etc
[00:49] <akurilin> This assumes a single super-admin role, I'm trying to see if it's possible to avoid that
[00:50] <leogtzr> and what about create a group with special permissions ? ...
[00:50] <leogtzr> like create other accounts, access to some folders, create accounts and stuff like that?
[00:50] <akurilin> yeah perhaps that's the way to go
[00:50] <orlock> akurilin: unless you have an encrypted directory being mounted each time a user logs in, i dont know if theres any real way to do it
[00:51] <orlock> akurilin: but if you are that paranoid, just give them all individual VM's
[00:52] <akurilin> ok
[00:52] <akurilin> Makes sense, thx
[00:53] <orlock> also, maybe check out some of the hardning and security standards
[00:53] <orlock> like, maybe an audit trail of access will do instead of trying to prevent it
[00:54] <leogtzr> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/527876/how-to-restrict-a-linux-user-to-be-only-able-to-read-home-user-and-nothing-else
[00:54] <orlock> akurilin: i worked in operations in an enviroment where any time we su'd to root we had to have another staff member monitor what commands were being run as root, etc
[00:55] <orlock> leogtzr: thats easy - now do it for root, who by definition has access to everything
[00:56] <orlock> akurilin: and the system logs were auditied, daily in match mode and in real time, as were all config files, etc.
[00:56] <orlock> remote logging, log monitoring, configuration file integrity monitoring
[00:56] <leogtzr> nice!  Where else can it be configured?
[00:58] <somsip> CrazyTB: it's mounted in /etc/fstab - is that what you mean?
[00:58] <orlock> CrazyTB: /etc/fstab
[00:59] <leogtzr> limit a user commands and force them to use a restricted shell
[00:59] <orlock> CrazyTB: cat /proc/swaps
[00:59] <Bashing-om> CrazyTB: Rephrase the question; There is no file system imposed on swap, and not much you can "configure" .
[01:00] <CrazyTB> orlock: hmm... it shows 4 /dev/zram devices
[01:01] <orlock>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zswap
[01:08] <leogtzr> ....
[01:13] <blubberbop> Can I use DD to copy a complete harddisk and then later on mount the individual partitions?  Can I somehow tell the kernel that file X is not just a file, treat it like a harddrive with partitions?
[01:14] <orb> Are you wanting to mount the file or convert it back to a regular filesystem first?
[01:15] <orlock> blubberbop: -o loop option for mount lets you mount a file
[01:15] <orb> But he wants multiple partitions in that.
[01:15] <orlock> blubberbop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/69363/mount-single-partition-from-image-of-entire-disk-device
[01:15] <blubberbop> orlock: but how would I mount a file containing the dd image from a harddrive? It has no filesystem by itself, it has partitions that the kernel then should show..
[01:16] <blubberbop> orlock: that looks pretty! thanks!
[01:16] <orlock> blubberbop: have you made the image yet?
[01:17] <CrazyTB> orlock: Thanks!
[01:17] <orlock> blubberbop: set the blocksize (bs) when  making the image, it just speeds it up drastically
[01:19] <blubberbop> orlock: I already made the image yeah, it was 400GB and I used bs=64K which indeed made it quite a bit faster
[01:19] <blubberbop> thanks though for the tip!
[01:19] <orlock> blubberbop: i remember - going on 20 years ago - cloning some.. they might have been 8 gig drives - i didnt know about that
[01:19] <orlock> blubberbop: it took about 4 hours each!
[01:20] <blubberbop> orlock: This one took also about... 4-5 hours, it was over USB2, not the fastest thing, but the best I had at hand
[01:20] <orlock> oh usb
[01:20] <orlock> damn
[01:20] <orlock> pain
[01:20] <orlock> :)
[01:22] <augustN> I don't understand why Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is supported for 5 years but Xubuntu 14.04 LTS is only supported for 3 years. What happens to Xubuntu after the 3 years of support?
[01:22] <blubberbop> orlock: Works like a charm, thanks!
[01:23] <blubberbop> augustN: no more support, no more updates
[01:23]  * orlock wonders why the hell his xterms keep locking up
[01:25] <augustN> blubberbop: but it's still basically the same distro as Ubuntu 14.04 right? but it wouldn't be supported anymore?
[01:27] <blubberbop> augustN: well,  AFAIK Xubuntu uses only a different window manager, not? XFCE IIRC? So I support if Ubuntu makes updates to packages that are not specific to XFCE, you would get them, but I don;t know if these packages would be ported to the Xubuntu repos..
[01:27] <blubberbop> augustN: mmmm
[01:28] <blubberbop> augustN: Just checked my /etc/apt/sources.list file, and its just the ubuntu repo.. So I'm sure you should at least get the updates from there
[01:28] <blubberbop> augustN: So I suppose (and I'm really not sure here!) that you would simply no longer get the XFCE specific updates..
[01:29] <augustN> blubberbop: oh. okay. i hope that's the case. I'm planning on switching to xubuntu later. compiz/unity isn't working well with my nvidia card
[01:29] <akurilin2> Does anybody else often experience issues with continuous disconnecting from Wifi APs with laptops on both precise and trusty?
[01:29] <blubberbop> augustN: *cough* kubuntu *cough*
[01:30] <akurilin2> I never figured out if there's something specific the AP needs to configure to facilitate linux wifi
[01:30] <akurilin2> never have issues with wifi when it comes to mbp / osx
[01:30] <blubberbop> akurilin2: AFAIK, there is no such thing as a specific linux setting.. it should just work..
[01:30] <blubberbop> akurilin2: Probably a wife driver issue
[01:30] <Hecter> hi, user1 is a member of developer group and created a private git repo and files has user1:developer, me user2 is a member of developer group too (shown in <id user2>), Im still having not enough permission in /objects folder, any advise?
[01:30] <orlock> akurilin2: i do on 14.04
[01:31] <blubberbop> Oh damn, freud would have had some fun with that one LOL
[01:31] <akurilin2> blubberbop: I've been told before "We have a special linux wifi AP"
[01:31] <akurilin2> not sure what's up with that
[01:31] <orlock> akurilin2:  NetGear, Inc. WN111(v2) RangeMax Next Wireless [Atheros AR9170+AR9101]
[01:32] <augustN> blubberbop: i don't like kde. lol
[01:32] <blubberbop> akurilin2: Never heard of an AP specially for Linux.. I do know though that WiFi under linux can be quite problematic still since drivers are still not as good as they could / should be
[01:32] <orlock> akurilin2: USB adaptor?
[01:33] <akurilin2> not a usb card, it's internal, let me see what model it is
[01:33] <akurilin2>  Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev bb)
[01:34] <orlock> odd
[01:34] <orlock> intels drivers are normally pretty good
[01:34] <orlock> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250244
[01:37] <akurilin2> yeah apparently that card is a troublemaker for a lot of people
[01:37] <akurilin2> at least it works on this kernel without any mods
[01:37] <orlock> i hate wireless
[01:37] <akurilin2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1354975
[01:38] <akurilin2> orlock: gosh yes
[01:39] <leonidas__> guys, have you tried to remove unused kernel modules?
[01:40] <leonidas__> ? ....
[01:40] <orlock> leonidas__: you mean or general, or for some specific reason?
[01:41] <leonidas__> general, just to save memory ...
[01:42] <leonidas__> I don't have any problem or issue, I just want to know if I could remove some specific module to reclaim some memory
[01:43] <Bashing-om> leonidas__: What release ? the method varies . Old kernels only take up disk space ( and should be removed if there is no use for them ) .
[01:44] <leonidas__> Blashing-om:[0 [18:44][leo@~]$ uname -a
[01:44] <leonidas__> Linux leo-Inspiron-5720 3.13.0-40-generic #69-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 13 17:53:56 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:46] <Bashing-om> leonidas__: In release 14.04; the termianl command -> sudo apt-get autoremove <- will remove the old kernels.
[01:46] <Bashing-om> terminal*
[01:47] <orlock> leonidas__: yeah
[01:47] <orlock> leonidas__: but are you that tight on ram that its going to make a difference? are you hitting swap by that much>
[01:48] <leonidas__> I ask how to remove unused kernel modules, not old kernels ...
[01:48] <leonidas__> @orlock, no, I have a very decent machine, I asked because I just read this from the LPIC certification book:
[01:48] <leonidas__> Sometimes, though, you may
[01:48] <leonidas__> want to remove a loaded module. Reasons include reclaiming that tiny amount of memory,
[01:48] <leonidas__> unloading an old module so you can load an updated replacement module, and removing a
[01:48] <leonidas__> module that you suspect is unreliable.
[01:48] <leonidas__> "Sometimes, though, you may
[01:48] <leonidas__> want to remove a loaded module. Reasons include reclaiming that tiny amount of memory,
[01:48] <leonidas__> unloading an old module so you can load an updated replacement module, and removing a
[01:48] <unopaste> leonidas__ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:49] <orlock> leonidas__: yeah - for learning purposes, go nuts
[01:49] <orlock> leonidas__: in the bad old days, many people would compile all the modules they knew they would need into the kernel, and not compile others at all
[01:49] <tasos> ??
[01:50] <orlock> leonidas__: and maybe only have modules for drivers that required specific flags at load time
[01:50] <leonidas__> yes, I will do some tests removing the beep pcspeaker ...
[01:50] <leonidas__> ohhhh, didn't know that :O
[01:50] <orlock> leonidas__: but i havent thought about doing that sort of thing for over 15 years
[01:57] <Guest44612> I'm trying to start an ssh server on my ubuntu desktop so I can ssh on to it.
[01:57] <Guest44612> I used: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:57] <Guest44612> how do I create a username and password so someone can ssh into my machine?
[01:57] <Guest44612> None of the tutorials really mention this
[01:58] <orlock> Guest44612: just add a new user
[01:58] <leonidas__> add a new user and try to ssh -vvv newuser@nameOfYourServer
[01:58] <orlock> Guest44612: settings -> user accounts (under system)
[01:59] <Guest44612> orlock, ahh ok so can I use the main user's account to ssh?
[01:59] <Guest44612> like the account I am on now?
[01:59] <leonidas__> yes
[01:59] <orlock> Guest44612: any account should work
[01:59] <orlock> yup
[01:59] <Guest44612> ahhh, that makes sense, I thought I had to create user profiles or something hehe
[01:59] <leonidas__> yes make sure you have well configured your keys
[02:00] <Guest44612> strong password?
[02:00] <orlock> yeah
[02:01] <orlock> otherwise china and russia will 0wn your box
[02:01] <leonidas__> hahaha
[02:01] <w00dog> Hello.  Can anyone comment on MTP / PTP support in 14.04?  Mom's getting a Moto G and she's ~5,000 km away and running 10.04, so I'm trying to plan some upgrade path that will not fail.
[02:02] <Guest44612> orlock, that's scary changing my password to like 10 characters now
[02:03] <orlock> Guest44612: and open ssh servers on the internet get hammered pretty much non stop
[02:04] <daftykins> w00dog: haha, delaying a while on that one. why not ship a bootable flash drive and get a demo done prior?
[02:05] <Guest44612> orlock, I just need to have a ssh server on temporarily, like 1/2 hr (trying to install nvidia drivers which require x-server to be off, which kills my screen), I should be safe if it's just 1/2 hr right?
[02:05] <daftykins> and whoever is going to help you can't tell you to write down the commands? ;)
[02:05] <daftykins> Guest44612: also you shouldn't be installing non-packaged nvidia drivers.
[02:06] <w00dog> daftykins: walking her through a BIOS tweak would be painful for both of us. And her PC is so ancient that it may not support USB booting.  Hence plan to do-release-upgrade with brother on-hand for emergencies.  OpenVPN gives me full access currently to her PC via SSH & VNC
[02:06] <orlock> Guest44612: yeah it will be fine - they will hammer but wont get in
[02:06] <orlock> Guest44612: unless you set the password to "root" or "password"
[02:06] <daftykins> w00dog: probably wouldn't be wise to run 14.04 then - what graphics?
[02:07] <Guest44612> daftykins, I downloaded a .run file from nvidia which requires x-server to be off (the screen stuff)
[02:07] <daftykins> Guest44612: i know - and you aren't supposed to install nvidia drivers from manual downloads.
[02:07] <w00dog> But first, curious if anyone has experience with MTP on 14.04?    Had her on XFCE for a bit.  Thinking Mint + Mate too...
[02:07] <daftykins> xubuntu is definitely ace
[02:07] <Guest44612> daftykins, is there an alternative?
[02:08] <Guest44612> orlock, haha I'm past that level of noob at least
[02:08] <daftykins> Guest44612: yes, packaged drivers. is this ubuntu 14.04?
[02:08] <Guest44612> daftykins, yes sir
[02:08] <Bravo12> hello everyone
[02:09] <daftykins> Guest44612: so click the settings 'cog' type icon on the launcher on the left, go to software and sources, then the additional hardware/drivers tab at the end
[02:09] <Bravo12> could anyone help me in creating a startup script?
[02:09] <Bravo12> its seems the permissions are jacked up, and the main app will only run if i'm currently inside the working directory
[02:10] <Guest44612> daftykins, I had tried that previously but it says "No additional drivers available"
[02:10] <Guest44612> Do I need to add sources or something?
[02:10] <daftykins> Guest44612: what's your card?
[02:10] <daftykins> no
[02:11] <Guest44612> nvidia gtx 750 ti
[02:11] <Guest44612> daftykins, they have a driver for it on the nvidia site
[02:11] <daftykins> !info nvidia-331 trusty
[02:11] <Bravo12> :-(
[02:11] <daftykins> Guest44612: yes and for the FOURTH time you're not meant to install drivers like that :P
[02:11] <daftykins> Guest44612: sudo apt-get install nvidia-331
[02:12] <daftykins> install, reboot, done
[02:12] <Guest44612> daftykins, haha I would like to avoid it since I don't want russians to take over my computer
[02:12] <Guest44612> let me try that
[02:12] <Bravo12> any help on a startup script?
[02:12] <atlas-hive> Guest44612: have a bad rap with the russians eh?
[02:13] <Guest44612> atlas-hive, nah haha I was trying to start an ssh-server to install nvidia drivers (it was mentioned here russians would take over my computer if I had a short password)
[02:13] <Bashing-om> Guest44612: 750 ti ; see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252908 >> Simple steps to install GeForce GTX 750Ti on Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 .
[02:13] <SchrodingersScat> Bravo12: there's also #bash , normally you can use full paths to avoid needing to be in a directory, and other various aliases and shorthands
[02:14] <atlas-hive> Guest44612: hahah got it. i just thought it was funny.
[02:15] <adastra312> i have a quick question, hopefully someone out there will know...i've been using ubuntu now for years and i have no idea what i did.
[02:15] <adastra312> somehow the ctrl key has been mapped to favorites
[02:15] <adastra312> so in firefox whenever i hit ctrl it opens the bookmarks or in a file browser it open the favorites
[02:16] <Guest44612> Bashing-om, thanks for the link, it seems more complicated than, sudo apt-get install nvidia-331, is the method in the link better?
[02:16] <adastra312> i know how to map keys and i don't see this mapping
[02:17] <Bashing-om> Guest44612: Nope, no easy way yet for that card .. ( soon as our developers catch up, there will be ) .
[02:17] <Guest44612> Bashing-om, ok thanks I will try those steps
[02:18] <daftykins> Bashing-om: oh is it not supported in the 331?
[02:18] <daftykins> how tedious
[02:18] <Bravo12> Ok my screen tweeked what was that?
[02:18] <Bashing-om> daftykins: So far as I know needs version 334.xx or later, and it's not in the Trusty repo .
[02:19] <daftykins> ah, i only read about the 331 not supporting the 8xxM's or something, *shrug*
[02:19] <daftykins> that explains the lack of offering from additional drivers.
[02:20] <Bravo12> I've tried to run the full path, however the startup script in that containing folder will run, but tom cat will not, if running from inside the folder (tomcat is a sub) it starts fine, also if I run under sudo it wont even find the folder
[02:20] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Yepper, we play catch up with new hardware ,, and Nvidia is not to fast to relaese/help us with the code .
[02:21] <daftykins> i think that's more speed of packagers, not nvidia support
[02:21] <leonidas__> Bravo12, are you getting an error?
[02:22] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Yeah then too, Nvidia has been pretty good to us lately .
[02:22] <platz> need a new laptop and want to run ubuntu - would prefer lenovo but dislike the pad/buttons on the new models.. what is the next best thing?
[02:23] <atlas-hive> platz: sony vaio
[02:23] <Bravo12> -- leonidas : when running from the main user screen and tryping the command in I get a catalina home path chmod: can not access '././tomcat/bin*.sh'
[02:23] <platz> atlas-hive: thanks I'll check them out
[02:23] <atlas-hive> platz: they are great computers but a bit of a penny per price
[02:23] <Bravo12> now if I "cd" into the folder that starts all of it, everything runs fine
[02:24] <atlas-hive> platz: i have an old z series which they dont make anymore but it rocks and the battery power is awesome for low to mid grade work
[02:24] <Bravo12> its currenty stored in a folder residing on the desktop
[02:24] <entenienne> what would be best program/command to compare large binary files? I just want a "they are identical" or "they differ" answer, not what bytes that differ.
[02:24] <entenienne> (if I don't want to create and compare checksums)
[02:24] <daftykins> entenienne: md5 them.
[02:24] <daftykins> oh.
[02:25] <daftykins> and why's that such a big deal?
[02:25] <platz> atlas-hive: sadly it seems the older stuff seems nicer to me, if only a bit bulkier
[02:26] <atlas-hive> acer s7 are pretty good too.
[02:26] <entenienne> daftykins: well, I was thinking about something like diff, but that reads in both files into memory (some hundred MB's) and compares them. diff seems to read just 4KB of each file at a time - and since both files are on same harddisk that would lead thousand read-head moves per file-pair
[02:26] <Bravo12> any ideas leo?
[02:27] <atlas-hive> platz: ive always been a acer fan... but sony is slowly winning me over, even though they are hemorrhaging money but the minute
[02:27] <daftykins> entenienne: you've got to read the files somehow. what's wrong with generating and dumping hashes?
[02:27] <leonidas__> Bravo12, have you given execute permissions?
[02:27] <leonidas__> chmod +x *.sh
[02:27] <Bravo12> this page is getting hard to read
[02:28] <Bravo12> yes
[02:28] <leonidas__> cd bin
[02:28] <Bravo12> ls
[02:28] <leonidas__> cd bin && chmod +x *.sh
[02:29] <entenienne> but sure, anything that writes like "files are equal" twenty times would do I guess (I have two copies of the 20 files, both directories are supposed to be the same, I want to be 100.00% certain)
[02:29] <jgornick> Hey guys, if I clear out my udev 70-persistent-net.rules file and reboot the computer, why isn't the file being automatically repopulated with my devices?
[02:29] <w00dog> platz: check out System76
[02:29] <Bravo12> ok did that
[02:29] <Bravo12> checking now
[02:30] <entenienne> daftykins: well I have at least 1GB free memory, wouldn't the easist way be to read in both files to memory (unless they toghether would be larger than free memory) ?
[02:31] <daftykins> entenienne: i think you're spending too much time thinking about this task rather than getting it done :)
[02:31] <leonidas__> use diff!
[02:31] <entenienne> daftykins: I suppose "somechecksum way" of comparing them could do (perhaps not md5 though that is know to have collisions)
[02:32] <entenienne> diff moves harddisk hear millions times! thats why I want something else than diff.
[02:32] <daftykins> the likelihood of you encountering collisions is ridiculously low.
[02:32] <entenienne> my poor harddisk will explode :-D
[02:32] <atlas-hive> platz: they look pretty stable. never heard of them thou... interesting
[02:32] <Bravo12> well leo that got it to run from the desktop
[02:33] <leonidas__> ????
[02:33] <Bravo12> now to get it to run from its full path
[02:33] <leonidas__> ok ...
[02:33] <Bravo12> i set a script to start it on the desktop... to see if i could make some headway
[02:33] <Bravo12> but it won't run from the home directory, only if use terminal and cd into the desktop folder
[02:34] <Bravo12> ls
[02:34] <entenienne> daftykins:  but ok, how would a md5-way of comparing two directories look like?
[02:34] <haskell2> Hey guys, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers (based on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252908 which someone here just provided to me a few mins ago).
[02:34] <haskell2> One of the steps says: Switch to command line mode (Press Ctr-Alt-F1)
[02:34] <haskell2> however, that does nothing for me
[02:34] <daftykins> are you sure?
[02:35] <daftykins> Ctrl+ALT+ F1 through F6 should provide command line logins
[02:35] <Bravo12> at the user folder level it will not work, states no such file or directory
[02:35] <haskell2> daftykins, I am pressing Ctrl+ALT+ F1 on ubuntu 14.01 and nothing is happening
[02:35] <daftykins> haskell2: ah well, perhaps experiment with your keyboard. something must be up.
[02:35] <entenienne> haskell2: ctrl-alt-F1 is supposed to show a textmode console
[02:36] <orlock> some keyboards have an F lock
[02:36] <orlock> function lock
[02:36] <entenienne> (or well perhaps not real textmode, but faked textmode)
[02:36] <ozAlek> Greetings, I have a use case that I'd like to scrape the minds of a few with: If the DHCP server is down when ubuntu-server intially boots, and it is unable to gather a lease- then boots normally, then the DHCP comes online after the fact, will ubuntu notice the change? Thanks
[02:36] <daftykins> ozAlek: nobody runs a server as a DHCP client.
[02:36] <atlas-hive> brb guys
[02:36] <platz> w00dog: those are interesting - good specs for the $$
[02:36] <entenienne> ah yeah, haskell2 perhaps have to hold down the [Fn] key too
[02:36] <leonidas__> Bravo12, make sure the full path doesn't have spaces ...
[02:37] <w00dog> platz: they support Linux community such as "Linux Action Show" podcast, who have a referral link on their site. I'm not affiliated but wanted to point that out...  And yes, very nice laptops; wish I had one!
[02:37] <Bravo12> just check the bash -x to the full path in.. and get the same spot where i started.. can not access tomcat
[02:37] <entenienne> Do I have to create some horrible for loop to compare multiple files with md5?
[02:37] <ozAlek> daftykins, That didn't answer the question... it's a use case
[02:38] <atlas-hive> back
[02:39] <leonidas__> http://askubuntu.com/questions/111495/how-to-diff-multiple-files-across-directories
[02:39] <entenienne> ok
[02:39] <leonidas__> yes, @entenienne
[02:39] <leonidas__> sounds fun
[02:39] <daftykins> ozAlek: i truly believe it does. using DHCP is simply mindblowingly foolish
[02:40] <w00dog> entenienne: I thought you could just point diff at two directories
[02:40] <atlas-hive> so if i were to be in tty2 and want to go into gui, what is the command?
[02:40] <jgornick> Is anyone available to help me reset my udev networking interfaces?
[02:40] <leonidas__> CTRL ALT F7 atlas-hive ...
[02:40] <ozAlek> daftykins, there are situations where DHCP is required
[02:41] <daftykins> ozAlek: like?
[02:41] <atlas-hive> leonidas__: yea, that brings me to login. but no ggui command
[02:41] <w00dog> ozAlek: I might be tempted to bind a static IP onto, say, eth0:1 whereas eth0:0 is DHCP -- just to be sure.   I don't want to read files 4KB chunks moving the harddisks read from each end of the disk thousand times back and forth for each file.
[02:42] <leonidas__> Bravo12, where is your tomcat path? (please paste the full path here)
[02:42] <nerdistmonk> is it possible to turn off delayed allocation on my ext4 *buntu partition?
[02:42] <w00dog> entenienne: are you having HD failure issues?
[02:43] <entenienne> w00dog: unless there is some magic flag --readsize 100MB on diff.... that would be wonderfull.
[02:43] <w00dog> nerdistmonk: check out "man tune2fs"
[02:44] <w00dog> nerdistmonk: I see a "nodelalloc" option in there...
[02:44] <Bravo12> home/mtsu-user/Desktop/WebGoat-5.4/tomcat
[02:44] <leonidas__> --speed-large-files
[02:44] <nerdistmonk> yes i know the nodelalloc command
[02:44] <ozAlek> w00dog, interesting, is this essentially virtual network interfaces?
[02:44] <nerdistmonk> but i do not know whats the best way of using it
[02:45] <w00dog> ozAlek: not sure if that's the correct terminology -- might be though.  I use it to access separate subnets on one NIC.
[02:45] <leonidas__> @Bravo12 chmod +x /home/mtsu-user/Desktop/WebGoat-5.4/tomcat/bin/ && /home/mtsu-user/Desktop/WebGoat-5.4/tomcat/bin/script_you_want_to_start.sh
[02:46] <Bravo12> ok
[02:46] <ozAlek> w00dog, this is great, it'll give me a fallback which i can manually connect to if required to do a dhcp release/renew - thanks!
[02:46] <leonidas__> sorry I did a mistake, Bravo12
[02:46] <leonidas__> chmod +x /home/mtsu-user/Desktop/WebGoat-5.4/tomcat/bin/*.sh && /home/mtsu-user/Desktop/WebGoat-5.4/tomcat/bin/script_you_want_to_start.sh
[02:46] <Bravo12> ok
[02:47] <nerdistmonk> yeah i haven't a clue on how to use this on my install partition
[02:48] <Bravo12> can not access '././tomcat/bin/*.sh' : No such file or directory exists
[02:49] <ozAlek> daftykins, w00dog, the only reason I was originally thinking to use DHCP was because it was going between 2 different subnets- if i can use this to have subnet0 on eth0:0 and subnet1 on eth0:1- we should be golden without the need for DHCP at all, correct?
[02:49] <atlas-hive> question: how to i connect to network using terminal only?
[02:49] <leonidas__> Bravo12
[02:49] <leonidas__> http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/showthread.php?t=214
[02:50] <Bravo12> wish I was using backtrak or kali, i find it easier to user lol
[02:50] <Bravo12> this is Ubuntu 14.10
[02:50] <daftykins> so... use them?
[02:50] <w00dog> ozAlek: correct - I think the eth0:0 and eth0:1 would work for you allowing access to both subnets
[02:50] <daftykins> well not BT, that's ancient
[02:50] <Bravo12> I can't
[02:50] <orlock> no need for aliases anymore
[02:51] <orlock> you can just do an ip addr add
[02:52] <nerdistmonk> so how would i go about applying -o nodelalloc to my main active buntu install partition?
[02:52] <Bravo12> yes leo, I have read that, they have changed the webgoat.sh file and file paths 5.4 (which is allso depreciated fyi) and i'm running jre8
[02:53] <Bravo12> i used the sudo get package commmand for the java jdk8 install
[02:53] <Bravo12> and like i said I it works great if I cd down to the WebGoat-5.4 directory and run the .sh file
[02:54] <Bravo12> problem is when I try to get it to auto start .... it won't and throws the tomcat error
[02:54] <w00dog> nerdistmonk: looks like it's an option to the "mount" command.  I'd put it into /etc/fstab or maybe manually umount then manually mount -o nodealloc /dev/[device]   and see if that works.
[02:54] <leonidas__> and what if you put a cd line within the auto start script?
[02:55] <nerdistmonk> you can't umount your OS partition..
[02:55] <Bravo12> i'm affraid i don't follow
[02:55] <nerdistmonk> and doesn't fstab change rapidly due to uuid?
[02:56] <Bravo12> home
[02:58] <w00dog> nerdistmonk: fstab shouldn't change much -- uuid guarantees persistent device allocation anyway.  What's your current fstab line for your OS partition?
[02:58] <nerdistmonk> UUID=25e1b261-3a22-47b1-8a66-8e16c4320025 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro,nodelalloc 0       1
[02:58] <nerdistmonk> does that look ok?
[02:59] <w00dog> looks okay nerdistmonk
[02:59] <nerdistmonk> what does the 0   1 stand for?
[03:00] <Mike9863> When I lock my screen after about 20 seconds the screen will turn off. However, if I move my cursor at all the screen will not turn back off no matter how much time passes. How can I have the screen turn off when it's locked after I have moved the mouse?
[03:00] <nerdistmonk> they were already in my fstab before i added nodelalloc
[03:00] <nerdistmonk> ahh i see dump/pass above them
[03:00] <nerdistmonk> ok im gonna reboot and see if this thing works
[03:00] <nerdistmonk> thanks for the help woo
[03:02] <w00dog> nerdistmonk: 5th field is for "dump" flag, 6th for order of fscheck when booting (man fstab)
[03:04] <w00dog> nerdistmonk: 5th field is for "dump" flag, 6th for order of fscheck when booting (man fstab)
[03:04] <nerdistmonk> well it didn't eat it, so i guess that was a success.
[03:04] <w00dog> good news
[03:04] <nerdistmonk> i don't get why that wouldn't be on by default
[03:05] <nerdistmonk> anyways thanks for the help w00dog
[03:05] <w00dog> cheers
[03:05] <Bravo12> finished my scotch time for a smoke
[03:06] <atlas-hive> anyone familiar with nmcli commands?
[03:06] <w00dog> Bravo12: sharing?  I've worked up a thirst for ___
[03:07] <atlas-hive> anyone know nmcli commands?
[03:10] <atlas-hive> 2/join network
[03:11] <w00dog> atlas-hive: nmcli == network manager cli interface?
[03:12] <atlas-hive>   w00dog yes, perferably connecting to wlan using terminal only
[03:13] <atlas-hive>   w00dog: yes, perferably connecting to wlan using terminal only
[03:16] <Bravo12> I wonder if the catilina script is outdated it's set to run off cygwin, darwin, or os400
[03:17] <Bravo12> is Ubuntu 14 considered darwin?
[03:21] <yebada_> zpc  hellp
[03:25] <Bravo12> ls
[03:26] <Guest44059> hello
[03:27] <Guest-2293> great
[03:28] <Guest-8151> hmmm
[03:29] <ar_> hello..
[03:31] <BlueMonkey> Hello! I do not have a shut-down menu in KDE on Ubuntu 10.04! How do I get back Shutdown menu?
[03:32] <pack^> ubuntu is great. linux has come so far since the 1990's there is literally no comparison.
[03:32] <xangua> BlueMonkey: 10.04 is no longer supported
[03:32] <BlueMonkey> Im using the Server!
[03:33] <orlock> pack^: hell yeah
[03:34] <orlock> pack^: installing from 30 floppies was a pain and you didnt get much of an OS
[03:34] <pack^> finding dependencies and compiling. hours of fun.
[03:35] <orlock> pack^: ever try compiling E?
[03:35] <orlock> the window manager Enlightenment i mean
[03:35] <somsip> !ot | orlock (friendly though it is, off topic chat goes elsewhere please)
[03:35] <pack^> never used windows
[03:36] <orlock> pack^: as in X11 window manager.. the thing that lets you actually manipulate all the programs you have open
[03:36] <pack^> cli only
[03:36] <akurilin> question: is it possible to "try" a latest greatest kernel version on 14.04 without that being explicitly supported through official channels?
[03:36] <akurilin> e.g. if I wanted to try 3.17
[03:37] <somsip> !mainline | akurilin
[03:37] <orlock> akurilin: yes
[03:37] <akurilin> cool
[03:38] <xangua> akurilin: just wait to the next point release, you'll be able to install kernel and graphic drivers from 14.10 in 14.04 officially https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[03:39] <orlock> anybody else get unsolictaed priv from juisne ?
[03:39] <xangua> 14.04.2
[03:39] <pack^> yes but blocked
[03:40] <BlueMonkey> Hello! I do not have a shut-down menu in KDE on Ubuntu 10.04! How do I get back Shutdown menu?
[03:43] <xangua> 10.04 is no longer supported BlueMonkey
[03:44] <BlueMonkey> What do you mean not supported?
[03:44] <w00dog> End Of Life was 3 years after release
[03:45] <BlueMonkey> Cant you just answer the damn question , rather arguing about what is supported and what is not?
[03:45] <w00dog> updates still happen though and ksplice keeps the kernel rather up-to-date.  BTW, I just re-joined -- what was the question?
[03:46] <BlueMonkey> I do not have a shut-down menu in KDE on Ubuntu 10.04! How do I get back Shutdown menu?
[03:47] <w00dog> I'm running KDE on CentOS.  Do you have the Kickstarter (aka Start Menu) icon?
[03:47] <w00dog> ignore juisne
[03:47] <w00dog> oops.
[03:48] <pooppster> totally
[03:53] <BlueMonkey> Yes!
[03:54] <w00dog> BlueMonkey: when you click on it, there's no "Leave" icon at the bottom-right of the pop-up panel?
[03:55] <BlueMonkey> No! there is a Leave button but there is no Shutdown menu coming up after I click on that/!
[03:56] <w00dog> BlueMonkey: I see a "Sleep", "Hibernate", "Restart" but need to scroll down to see the "Shutdown" -- do you see it if you scroll?
[03:56] <avis> is a 7th gen ipod nano supported on ubuntu
[04:00] <BlueMonkey> w00dog, Nope! There is no Shutdown anywhere :/
[04:01] <w00dog> What if you right-click on the Start-thingie and switch to classic mode? Does that make it appear under "Leave"?
[04:03] <BlueMonkey> Leave is there! When I press I only get Logout!!
[04:03] <t3flon> hey all
[04:04] <pack^> permission issue. must be root/superuser to shutdown/reboot.
[04:05] <t3flon> happy tgivings.  I'm having an issue where on reboot my machine does not automatically connect to the network interface.  Ubuntu server 14.04.1, connection is managed by networkmanager (managed=true)
[04:05] <BlueMonkey> pack^, How do I fix the permission?
[04:05] <t3flon> so the connection is ifupdown(interface)
[04:05] <BlueMonkey> I can reboot with the command sudo reboot
[04:05] <t3flon> if anyone has experience with this, how can I get it to connect automatically?
[04:06] <w00dog> Try adding yourself to group "wheel" maybe.  I don't run desktop as root, but I checked and I'm in "wheel" group (among others)
[04:06] <w00dog> @ BlueMonkey ^^
[04:06] <BlueMonkey> Im in wheel group!! Should I add myself to root group?
[04:06] <pack^> I would leave permissions alone.
[04:07] <BlueMonkey> ummm....then whtat is the fix?
[04:07] <w00dog> Me too.  I'd probably do something like "apt-get install --reinstall kde-full"
[04:07] <pack^> you would lower your security level.
[04:07] <w00dog> Or...
[04:08] <w00dog> Right-click on Start-thingie, edit applications, see if there's an option there.   Alternately, bring up Start-thingie panel, in the search field start typing "shutdown"
[04:09] <BlueMonkey> Hmm!! There is one solution!! Enabling the KDM as the Default Login Manager!
[04:09] <BlueMonkey> I had GDM as the default all this time!!
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> im looking for the packages needed to update garmin maps?
[04:13] <pack^> :]
[04:13] <timvisher-xubunt> is there some way to prove that my bluetooth adapter is actually turned on and recognized by ubuntu?
[04:14] <bodhi_zazen> timvisher-xubunt, connect it to something
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> !info garmin-plugin > lotuspsychje
[04:14] <timvisher-xubunt> bodhi_zazen: blueman-browse doesn't see any devices
[04:15] <timvisher-xubunt> i'm suspicious that there's no device present, or that something isn't installed correctly, but i'm grasping at straws there
[04:15] <timvisher-xubunt> my mac's all see the devices
[04:15] <bodhi_zazen> timvisher-xubunt, but is your bluetooth configured to be discoverable ?
[04:15] <timvisher-xubunt> bodhi_zazen: yes
[04:16] <ICantCook> !cn timvisher-xubunt
[04:17] <bodhi_zazen> timvisher-xubunt, output of hcitool dev ?
[04:19] <timvisher-xubunt> bodhi_zazen: https://gist.github.com/timvisher/24498ef4846e169118a8
[04:21] <timvisher-xubunt> bodhi_zazen: also, rfkill: https://gist.github.com/434cfbd8a33f5715f074
[04:21] <naught101> Anyone know if it should be possible to play aac/m4a files on ubuntu with sox play?
[04:21] <bodhi_zazen> looks like it is working
[04:21] <naught101> I can play the files with mplayer
[04:21] <bodhi_zazen> are you having a problem ?
[04:22] <ozysimpson> I am trying to configure vnc for a user on my box everytime i run vncserver command a user it uses different port 5901, 5902, 5903 and so on how can i stop it from happening and force it to use port 5901 as default port? the issue being i have change my firewall rules everytime ?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | ozysimpson
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> ozysimpson: be carefull with vnc for security reasons
[04:23] <ozysimpson> lotuspsychje, thank you for the reply its within my local network
[04:24] <timvisher-xubunt> bodhi_zazen: thanks. is there a good debug wiki page or something for why it can't find my devices?
[04:24] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> hello everyone :)
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> Angel_Of_Sorrow: welcome
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: did you check your additional drivers section?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: doublecheck your syslog and dmesg for bluetooth errors aswell
[04:26] <ozysimpson> ubottu, thanks for pointing out the document, I had a quick skim thro I cant seem to find it, unfortunately i have to do this in next 10 min do you by any chance know top of your help what config file that needs to be changed to make this happen as a matter of urgency please?
[04:26] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ty lotuspsychje
[04:26] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: i did not, and don'tknow how to do that
[04:26] <timvisher-xubunt> but i will check logs now
[04:26] <ithilyuen> Hello Druid
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: you can find your hardware icon in dash
[04:26] <solidsnake101> hi
[04:27] <ithilyuen> hello Acid
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> ozysimpson: http://askubuntu.com/questions/259166/change-port-for-desktop-sharing-in-ubuntu-12-10
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> ozysimpson: seems like dconf-editor can change the default port
[04:32] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: no additional drivers are available, at least they're not showing up in the search
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: you could try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and try connect your bluetooth to see in realtime
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: or tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> Flannel: tnx
[04:35] <ozysimpson> lotuspsychje, unfortunately this is on my server and i would prefer not to install dconf-tools
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> ozysimpson: not sure howto then sorry, maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might advice you?
[04:36] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: so they report nothing but that a discovery session is started and then finishes
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: could you paste logs of that?
[04:37] <timvisher-xubunt> i will also point out that though the bluetooth-indicator claims that it should be visible (which i'm assuming means discoverable) my other devices also can't see it
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !paste | timvisher-xubunt
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: wich ubuntu version are you on again?
[04:37] <timvisher-xubunt> https://gist.github.com/1914041e2ee374b5e58c
[04:38] <tripelb> Hi. Happy Tummies. i am stuck in dillema. I forgot the password. got to root shell. passwd: Authentication token manipulation error  passwd: password unchanged
[04:38] <timvisher-xubunt> ubottu: i'll see if i can
[04:38] <velhop4> Can I install Av Linux (based in debian), and install ubuntu allong, with and "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" in the command line?
[04:38] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: xubuntu 14.04
[04:39] <onsketch> hello i am new to ubuntu 14.04 and i can not get sound to come out of my speakers. can someone help
[04:39] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9278231/
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !sound | onsketch
[04:40] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> :)
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: what does bluetoothd -d -n say?
[04:40]  * tripelb anxiously shifts weight from one foot to another
[04:41] <onsketch> loutuspsychje- thank you ill go read over the info
[04:42] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9278243/
[04:43] <velhop4> Hello friends!! Can I install Av Linux (based in debian), and install ubuntu allong, with and "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" in the command line?
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: are you up to date?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> velhop4: its recommended you install ubuntu fresh, a version from topic
[04:44] <onsketch> hello i have another question . i do not have the speaker icon on the upper right hand of the screen
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> onsketch: doublecheck if your sound driver is installed in 'additional drivers'
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: did you install 14.04 clean or upgrade from another version?
[04:46] <velhop4> lotuspsychje, what's a version from topic? Should i Install Ubuntu first and AV Linux after?
[04:46] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: clean. how do i check for updates?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade after
[04:46] <timvisher-xubunt> i've installed all software updates that have been recommended but i'm not sure how to activate that check manually
[04:47] <timvisher-xubunt> thanks
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> velhop4: we dont support avlinux mate, just ubuntu
[04:49] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: The following packages will be upgraded:
[04:49] <timvisher-xubunt>   dbus dbus-x11 libdbus-1-3 libflac8 libnautilus-extension1a mugshot
[04:49] <timvisher-xubunt>   nautilus-data
[04:50] <timvisher-xubunt> whoops. google-chrome doesn't seem to always put things on the x clipboard
[04:50] <timvisher-xubunt> sorry :(
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: ok update all, and try reboot mate :p
[04:50] <timvisher-xubunt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9278271/ is what i meant
[04:50] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: on it ^_^
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> !info bluez
[04:52] <tripelb> i am stuck in dilemma. I forgot the password. got to root shell. Enter new UNIX password: (I did.and.got.this) passwd: Authentication token manipulation error  passwd: password unchanged
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> timchen119: you can try to install this package too
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> !password | tripelb
[04:53] <atekz> haha when you make security so good and you get locked out
[04:55] <pngl> Is it possible to run a service on startup that depends on some kind of ssh-agent/keyring being ready so it can use ssh without user interaction?
[04:56] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: so updated and restarted and here's the bluetoothd output again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9278367/
[04:57] <timvisher-xubunt> still no joy
[04:57] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> :(
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[04:59] <owen1> I 'Override software rendering list' and 'Enable WebGL' in chrome://flags but http://get.webgl.org say I don't have WebGL support. I also tried running chrome with --disable-gp
[04:59] <owen1> u-watchdog but it doesn't help. Firefox runs WebGL just fine. any ideas?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: did your bluetooth work on other ubuntu versions?
[04:59] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: no idea. i could try a livecd, i suppose. this machine was windows 8.1 before
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: maybe try a regular ubuntu desktop 14.04?
[04:59] <timvisher-xubunt> and i did not test bluetooth before installing xubuntu
[05:00] <timvisher-xubunt> i will say that acer's website only lists windows 8 bluetooth drivers
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: os the #xubuntu guys might know of any bluetooth errors too?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: well if additional drivers dont show anything, your good to go
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: its that dbus problem
[05:01] <bluezone> how do i reduce the pointer speed to below the minimal setting allowed by the GUI on ubuntu desktop
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/389434/bluetooth-problems-on-13-04-dont-see-bt-devices
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: if you cant fix, might file a bug..seems like many others experience this issue
[05:05] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: ah. well, the particular erro was because i wasn't running as root
[05:05] <timvisher-xubunt> error*
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: you logged into another user?
[05:08] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: i'm not logged in as root.
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> kk
[05:09] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: so this might be much more informative http://paste.ubuntu.com/9278491/
[05:10] <pypie> !register
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: you dont have bt button on laptop right or BIOS bt disabled?
[05:11] <timvisher-xubunt> lotuspsychje: i can check BIOS i suppose, but i don't believe there's a bluetooth button
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> timvisher-xubunt: well im out of ideas after this :p
[05:16] <tripelb> What I was trying to say os that I did yhe correct things to reset my.password and the passwd program.belched. and now.what? (I had to reread the link you gave me to.make certain.) SonikkuAmerica lotuspsychje
[05:17] <SonikkuAmerica> tripelb: Did you use [ passwd ] in recovery mode?
[05:22] <dillon_> can any one help
[05:22] <cfhowlett> !help | dillon_,
[05:24] <cpugirl> how to make hotspot in linux  ?
[05:26] <tripelb> (He is suddenly gone but) I did I use password in recovery mode . And it fails I'll repeat my original question.  .. Hi.  i am stuck in dillema. I forgot the password. got to root shell. Enter new UNIX password: (I did.and.got.this) passwd: Authentication token manipulation error  passwd: password unchanged
[05:27] <cpugirl> how to make hotspot in linux ?
[05:29] <pack^> http://www.howtoforge.com/wifi_hotspot_setup
[05:29] <wow> hello, noob user here, have a question
[05:30] <cpugirl> wow:how to make hotspot in linux ?
[05:31] <wow> i currently have 12.10 installed and want to upgrade
[05:31] <wow> to 14.04
[05:31] <wow> cpugirl: hahah, no not that noob
[05:31] <wow> cpugirl: i learned that while back
[05:31] <cpugirl> wow:LOL
[05:32] <wow> cpugirl: will i have to make a clean install or is there any way to upgrade
[05:32] <tripelb> Wow make a live cd. Backup your stuff and reinstall. (Can only upgrade one step at a time. And it can be flakey to do several.)
[05:33] <cpugirl> wow:what actually you wants to do ?
[05:33] <wow> tripelb: is this 1990 ? last time i used a cd was in 90's
[05:33] <tripelb> cpugirl: see my comment just above
[05:33] <wow> i want to upgrade my ubuntu 12.10 to 14.04
[05:33] <Loshki> tripelb: any of these help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/57620/getting-an-authentication-token-manipulation-error-when-trying-to-change-my-us
[05:34] <wow> cpugirl: i want to upgrade my ubuntu 12.10 to 14.04
[05:34] <cpugirl> wow:[lsb_release -a ]
[05:34] <cpugirl> wow:do it first and tell me
[05:34] <wow> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 12.10 Release:	12.10 Codename:	quantal
[05:36] <tripelb> Loshki: i will read it. I know.I.have system errors. Have 12.04 no home wifi.  I.noticed a recovery choice to correct errors in files. Thougjt I might try that.withthe.disk... after I.check.the.hash.
[05:36] <cpugirl> wow:ubuntu software centre->edit->software sources->updates..then click 1 2 and 4 except pre release updates
[05:39] <cpugirl> wow:have u did ?
[05:39] <wow> yes
[05:39] <wow> cpugirl: doing it
[05:39] <wow> cpugirl: all options are checked
[05:39] <wow> cpugirl: which one i need to uncheck ?
[05:39] <cpugirl> wow:unclick 3r 1
[05:40] <cpugirl> 3rd
[05:40] <wow> cpugirl: http://imgur.com/LpqFQuS
[05:40] <wow> cpugirl: proprietry
[05:40] <cpugirl> wow:no in update section
[05:41] <cpugirl> wow:click on updates
[05:41] <tripelb> Loshki: no. That ismt.my.issue. i am followimg.the.recover.lost password method qnd the prompt is Enter new UNIX password:   (I looked to double.check.)
[05:41] <cpugirl> wow:then check 1 2 and 4
[05:42] <wow> cpugirl: yes my update looks like this http://imgur.com/OnKwApi
[05:44] <cpugirl> wow:yeah good!! then do [apt-get update ] then [ do-release-upgrade ]
[05:45] <wow> cpugirl: and thats it ?
[05:46] <cpugirl> wow:yeah!! have software centre downloaded cache ?
[05:46] <wow> cpugirl: nopes
[05:46] <cpugirl> wow:these cmds you have to run after cache download by software centre.
[05:47] <wow> cpugirl: and how do i do cache downloads?
[05:47] <tripelb> Loshki: can you teach me how to create another user
[05:48] <cpugirl> wow:you have did it now.
[05:48] <wow> cpugirl: okay, so i run the cmd's
[05:48] <Seveas> tripelb: open the dash, type 'users', click the users and groups icon, click add.
[05:48] <cpugirl> wow:yeah
[05:49] <tripelb> wow you can only update to the next version, am I right? cpugirl
[05:49] <wow> cpugirl: i think so
[05:49] <cpugirl> wow:I think it latest
[05:49] <cpugirl> 14.10
[05:49] <wow> tripelb: i think yes, 12.10 -> 12.04
[05:50] <Loshki> tripelb: I don't think so. What 'system errors'?
[05:50] <cpugirl> wow:do it and restart your system
[05:50] <wow> cpugirl: and then i can upgrade 14.10 -> 15.04
[05:51] <tripelb> Seveas, i am on root.shell and the passwd wont take the new password. > Did > passwd username  > Enter new UNIX password: (I did and got these 2 lines)     passwd: Authentication token manipulation error  passwd: password unchanged (ditto with sudo)
[05:51] <wow> cpugirl: basically i want to move to an LTS
[05:51] <Ben64> wow: 14.04 is the latest LTS
[05:52] <cpugirl> wow:I don't know much!! I did it in my system
[05:52] <cpugirl> now I am using 14.04
[05:52] <wow> Ben64: i know but in future i would move to 15.04
[05:52] <Ben64> wow: 15.04 is not LTS
[05:52] <cpugirl> guys 15.04 is release or what ?
[05:52] <wow> cpugirl: i had 12.04 on my other machine and it was smooth to move to 14.04
[05:52] <tripelb> Loshki: when I ran it it wound tell me I had them, never specify what. I could just go on.
[05:52] <wow> Ben64: sorry 16.04
[05:53] <Ben64> wow: yeah, but you'll have to wait until April 2016 for that, not sure why its relevant at this time
[05:53] <wow> or is it possible to portback to 14.04 from 14.10
[05:53] <cpugirl> wow:any other method for upgrade ?
[05:53] <Ben64> wow: nope, can't go backwards
[05:53] <wow> cpugirl: just fron the software update GUI
[05:54] <wow> cpugirl: it asked me if i want to upgrade
[05:54] <cpugirl> wow:ok!! fine
[05:54] <wow> Ben64: So i am kinda fucked
[05:54] <wow> Ben64: Will have to do a clean install
[05:54] <cpugirl> stop fighting
[05:54] <Loshki> tripelb: I think your first priority should be to boot the live cd and fsck all your disks.
[05:55] <cpugirl> wow:if you wants to go for any specific version.make a boot cd for that.
[05:55] <Ben64> wow: watch the language here, and i thought you were on 12.10?
[05:55] <cpugirl> Ben64:I think same
[05:56] <wow> Does it make a lot of difference between 14.10 and 14.04, i do dev on node.js on two machines one has 14.04 and other has 12.10(this machine)
[05:56] <wow> Ben64: Okay sorry for the f word
[05:56] <Ben64> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04, or you can install 14.04
[05:57] <cpugirl> 14.10 and 14.04 are almost same.14.10 is some bug less
[05:58] <tripelb> Loshki: ok then I will. So that will take me a while.
[05:59] <wow> cpugirl: looks like a lot of errors
[05:59] <tripelb> Loshki: thank you. And I have only one hard drive, dual boot. Three partitions.
[05:59] <wow> on apt-get update
[06:00] <wow> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9278852/
[06:02] <Ben64> !eol | wow
[06:03] <wow> Ben64: Thanks
[06:12] <tripelb> I got solution fyi this was it. what I had done was. mount -rw -o remount /   ... what worked was. mount -o rw,remount /
[06:15] <tripelb> Thanks all
[06:26] <uskerine> does " service iptables save  " work in ubuntu 12.04?
[06:26] <uskerine> # service iptables save
[06:26] <uskerine> iptables: unrecognized service
[06:30] <he1kki> Looking for Unity Lens (scopes etc.) related speculation. As of now that hud seems to be terribly slow, so I was wondering if there is some big overhauls coming...
[06:36] <Mai23>  There is no such thing as Free Porn http://bit.ly/1y2SGSo
[07:17] <bluezone> how do i reduce the pointer speed to below the minimal setting allowed by the GUI on ubuntu desktop
[07:22] <bluezone> god help me :/
[07:24] <farva> how do I ban an IP address to connect to my server?
[07:32] <farva> can some one tell me how to block an IP address from accessing my server?
[07:32] <Rhetorical> bluezone: it looks like you can use xset
[07:33] <bluezone> Rhetorical, yeah doesn't seem to work with my dell mouse though :(
[07:33] <farva> I have tried a number of things with ip tables...but it does not seem to be working
[07:33] <ikonia> farva: accessing it what way ?
[07:33] <farva> he was ddosing
[07:33] <ikonia> how ?
[07:34] <ikonia> that means it's more than one ip if it's a ddos
[07:34] <farva> I found 196 connections when I ran a netstat on the machine
[07:34] <farva> on one IP
[07:34] <farva> so he was not very bright about it obviously
[07:34] <ikonia> connections to what
[07:34] <ikonia> ok, so it's not a ddos then
[07:34] <farva> http://gyazo.com/42b1b1d3a239c288a2af35d733206a77
[07:34] <ikonia> he's bright enough to have you worried
[07:34] <ikonia> and you d'nt know how to stop it
[07:34] <farva> yea, just some script kid pinging the fuck out of the server
[07:34] <farva> well, I know how to kick him off
[07:34] <ikonia> farva: there is no need for bad language
[07:35] <farva> but I can't figure out a ban for him
[07:35] <ikonia> farva: how do you plan to kick him off ?
[07:35] <farva> iptables -A INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -p tcp --destination-port 25 -j DROP
[07:35] <farva> is the example I used to boot him
[07:36] <ikonia> farva: so it's connection to a mail service on your machine ?
[07:36] <farva> I just replaced his IP and the port he was accessing
[07:36] <ikonia> what is the port he's accessing ?
[07:36] <farva> 25565
[07:36] <farva> that was just an example line
[07:36] <farva> he is attacking a game server
[07:36] <ikonia> what is running on that port, I'm not aware of that port's service
[07:37] <Rhetorical> Isn't that the port for the game Terraria?
[07:37] <farva> minecraft
[07:37] <Rhetorical> or minecraft
[07:37] <farva> xD
[07:37] <farva> so, how do I ban that ip now?
[07:37] <ikonia> Rhetorical: so use -j REJECT  --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[07:38] <Rhetorical> farva, I think you mean.
[07:39] <farva> I was confused there Rhetorical
[07:39] <farva> got it ty ikonia
[07:40] <ikonia> sorry - typo
[07:40] <farva> so where do I put in his IP?
[07:40] <ikonia> farva: you showed me in your previous example you knew how to do that
[07:40] <Rhetorical> my bad as well
[07:40] <ikonia> so I just gave you the policy to drop
[07:41] <farva> I just showed you the example I found and used, I don't understand it really
[07:41] <farva> this is like my 3rd month with linux
[07:41] <farva> so these finer details are pretty new to me
[07:41] <ikonia> so ?
[07:41] <ikonia> finer detail ?
[07:41] <farva> yes, like, understanding the variables you just laid out and what I have to do to make it work
[07:42] <ikonia> it's not a varible, it's an iptables flag/option
[07:42] <farva> =finer details
[07:42] <farva> well, I love to learn, so let me see what I can make of this..
[07:43] <farva> iptables -A INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -p tcp --destination-port 25 -j REJECT  --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[07:43] <farva> like that?
[07:43] <ikonia> that should work
[07:45] <farva> and if I want to keep him from accessing the entire server, I can leave out the port info like this? : iptables -A INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -p tcp -j REJECT  --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[07:45] <ikonia> farva: no
[07:47] <ikonia> just use -j DROP
[07:47] <farva> kk ty =]
[07:48] <farva> ikonia: so now, how can I check to see that it has been banned?
[07:49] <farva> I assume there is a banlist I can read?
[07:55] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> :(
[08:05] <Mani23>  Free Porn for Life!. Click Here! http://bit.ly/1y2SGSo
[08:12] <owen1> I 'Override software rendering list' and 'Enable WebGL' in chrome://flags but http://get.webgl.org say I don't have WebGL support. I also tried running chrome with --disable-gp
[08:12] <owen1> u-watchdog but it doesn't help. Firefox runs WebGL just fine. I have the same with chromium-browser package (39.0.2171.65 Ubuntu 14.10) and also with chrome (39.0.2171.71). Any ideas?
[08:19] <haidora> hey guys please help me tor is closing unexpectedly
[08:36] <nagerst> Hi, how do i set the background colour to white and text to black in the virtual terminals?
[08:37] <ozAlek> Hi Guys, quick q- is it possible to mount a NIC without assigning it an IP: it would be a Guest-Only NIC on a VM- it seems that the host must have it available, but I don't want it to use it in any way
[08:38] <ozAlek> (ubuntu server btw)
[08:38] <ikonia> ozAlek: you don't "mount" a nick
[08:38] <ikonia> ozAlek: ou can assign a physical / virtual nic to a guest OS without any IP details
[08:38] <slacka> slacka
[08:40] <ozAlek> ikonia, It's a physical nic that i want sole use for a guest - i assigned 'p3p1' to the guest, however it doesn't appear to be active
[08:40] <bluezone> my damn mouse is too fast and it's bothering me so much, i can't reduce the speed anymore with the GUI and i don't understand how to use xset
[08:40] <ikonia> ozAlek: what do you mean "not active"
[08:40] <ikonia> ozAlek: could you define the actual problem please
[08:41] <ozAlek> ikonia: it is unable to communicate with the network- it's as if the card simply does not work. From what I've been able to google, the NIC needs to be active on the host
[08:41] <ikonia> ozAlek: how do you expect it to communicate with a network without any ip details ?
[08:42] <ozAlek> ozAlek, the guest would have the IP details
[08:42] <ozAlek> oops- ikonia ^
[08:42] <ikonia> ozAlek: so what's stopping you doing that?
[08:43] <ozAlek> ikonia, The host does not have a wth* for the NIC- which is what I want, the NIC is visible in my virtualization software, when I assign it to a guest and then attempt to use that guest to get DHCP- it fails.
[08:43]  * bluezone hates high sensitivity with a passion
[08:43] <ozAlek> eth**
[08:44] <ikonia> ozAlek: what is the name of the interface on the host(hypervisor) you want to use
[08:44] <ozAlek> ikonia, p3p1
[08:44] <ikonia> ozAlek: and you can see that with ifconfig p3p1 in the host ?
[08:44] <ozAlek> ikonia, no
[08:45] <ikonia> ozAlek: then how do you know thats the interface name ?
[08:45] <ozAlek> ikonia, sorry, yes
[08:45] <ozAlek> ikonia, if you run ifconfig on it's own, it doesn't appear, but if you run 'ifconfig p3p1' it shows it's details
[08:45] <ikonia> ozAlek: sorry, I don't see an issue, if the host can see the device, you can assign it to a guest as a pass through device and allow the guest to use it as a network card
[08:46] <ozAlek> ikonia, that's what I assumed, perhaps other things are in play here.
[08:46] <ozAlek> ikonia, it's a newly installed NIC, perhaps ubuntu doesn't have drivers for the card
[08:46] <ikonia> ozAlek: you can see it in ifconfig
[08:46] <ikonia> ozAlek: therefore the host can see it/user it
[08:46] <ozAlek> ikonia, roger
[08:46] <ikonia> configure if it for the host if you want proof/test it
[08:49] <ozAlek> ikonia, thanks for the intel, i'll dig further and troubleshoot
[08:49] <ozAlek> ikonia, highly appreciated
[08:49] <ikonia> ozAlek: when you assign the device to the guest, can the guest see it if you do ifconfig -a on the guest ?
[08:49] <ikonia> ozAlek: remember it will not have the same interface name on the guest
[08:50] <ozAlek> ikonia, i can see eth0 and eth1, however i believe these are the virtual interfaces that have been bridged by the hypervisor to the card.
[08:50] <ikonia> ozAlek: what are you expecting to see in the guest ?
[08:50] <ozAlek> ikonia, DHCP working
[08:50] <ikonia> ozAlek: I mean in terms of devices
[08:51] <ozAlek> ikonia, what i see is accurate
[08:51] <ikonia> ozAlek: what devices are you expecting to see in the guest
[08:51] <ikonia> ozAlek: ok, so you see what you expect
[08:51] <ikonia> ozAlek: and the bottom line is, dhcp isn't working ?
[08:51] <ozAlek> ikonia, yeah that's right
[08:52] <ikonia> ozAlek: so you have 2 virtual devices mapped as a bridge to 1 physical on your host ?
[08:52] <ozAlek> 2 virtual bridged to 2 physical
[08:52] <ikonia> ozAlek: which one are you expecting dhcp to work on ?
[08:52] <ozAlek> ikonia, eth0
[08:52] <ikonia> ozAlek: ok, how are you testing this from the guest ?
[08:53] <ozAlek> ikonia, ubuntu installation
[08:54] <ikonia> ozAlek: sorry - "ubuntu installation" is not a "test for dhcp"
[08:54] <ikonia> ozAlek: how are you testing dhcp from the guest
[08:55] <ozAlek> ikonia, the ubuntu installation has a section where it tries to configure DHCP
[08:57] <ikonia> ozAlek: that is true, but it's a bit of an agressive test with no debug ability
[08:57] <ozAlek> ikonia, indeed- i've skupped it for now, i'll test once it is installed
[08:58] <ikonia> ozAlek: I'd use a livecd boot to test it/debug it
[09:06] <samthewildone> I thought it If you click the icon on launcher the application minimizes... if there an option for that ?
[09:06] <excognac> hi all, i need some confirmation before i reinstall my machine, using this http://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages if I edit the list files it's ok  to customiye what i reallz want to reinstall, or if they are included in the new release (kubuntu14.04) bz default they wont be duplicate?
[09:17] <rodyboyirc> nice community we have right here
[09:17] <ozAlek> ikonia, it has installed, DHCPDISCOVER times out - upon setting static attributes I am unable to ping the gateway
[09:20] <haidora> what should i do after downloading guest additions virtual box by this command sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
[09:22] <haidora> please answer
[09:23] <basheba> yes haidora
[09:23] <cfhowlett> haidora, open virtualbox.  go to help.  read "guest additions"
[09:24] <basheba> l
[09:25] <haidora> i have already download the iso file by terminal
[09:25] <haidora> is it done??
[09:25] <cfhowlett> haidora, read the documentation.  don't be lazy.
[09:25] <basheba> at the top of your vm menu you will see install guest additions
[09:25] <basheba> click that and it will install on it's own
[09:27] <haidora> ok
[09:28] <rsmarshall> anyone good with vsftp?
[09:28] <rsmarshall> A bit stuck as to why a user can't login
[09:37] <asd_> Ian
[09:47] <dotspace> I'm trying to create a chroot environment where specific commands must run. I tried to copy /usr/local/lib libraries and executables, still command is saying some "module" is missing.... How can I find all list of files(libraries) which is used by an application command upon invocations
[09:48] <dotspace> I'm trying to run pm2(https://github.com/Unitech/pm2) to be specific
[09:51] <dotspace> using 14.04 LTS
[09:55] <dotspace> anyone around there ?
[09:55] <asd_> hi
[09:56] <dotspace> seems stuck in configuring chroot
[09:56] <bray90820> What tablet would support the x86 or x86_64 versions of ubuntu
[09:57] <asd_> what do you need exactly
[09:58] <bray90820> asd were you talking to me?
[09:58] <bray90820> asd_:
[10:05] <Kim23>  Free Porn for Life!.   When I try to install rvm (latest), I get "Couldn't find package libreadline6".  Even using old-sources, I haven't been able to install it.
[10:32] <sridharraman> I am not in a position to upgrade the server.  So, is there a particular branch of rvm I can install that will install without any issues on Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty)?
[10:33] <bazhang> !compile | sridharraman
[10:33] <OerHeks> sridharraman, 9.04 is EOL, you should upgrade
[10:34] <jane_> I
[10:34] <OerHeks> no fix for latest vulnerabilities, heartbleed and such
[10:34] <sridharraman> OerHeks, yes, but upgrading is not an option my client is providing right now.  So, I guess, I will compile from source.
[10:35] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade | sridharraman, there is a hack to get those repos working, but it is just a hack to upgrade
[10:38] <jane_> I
[10:38] <jane_> you
[10:39] <Guest81588> When I use apt-get update does it confirm a successful update or not? So far the command has been returning a list of urls then not actually doing anything after.
[10:39] <bazhang> jane_, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[10:40] <jane_> I cant speak inglish good
[10:40] <bazhang> !cz | jane_
[10:40] <bazhang> Guest81588, any errors?
[10:40] <OerHeks> Guest81588, update is 1 part, full command is :  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade / dist-upgrade
[10:41] <jane_> thank you
[10:43] <kingchipo> hello! could use some help concerning my wireless
[10:44] <bazhang> !wifi | kingchipo
[10:44] <OerHeks> kingchipo, just ask
[10:45] <Guest81588> 1 error occurs with update; no pubkey available. upgrade asks for confirmation to install then again for unverified packages (I think the same one as update). When I decline the unverified package it stops all upgrade. I'll try Update &&
[10:45] <kingchipo> Haha well ok ill try to explain, I have a broadcome 4306(14e4:4320)
[10:46] <kingchipo> Ive installed b43legacy as instructed by the ubuntu docs, my wireless can recognize the access point but cannot connect. Ive tried two different network managers wicd and nmapplet both hang at obtaining ip adress
[10:46] <kingchipo> Also somthing funny, im trying to cycle through the drivers, ive blacklisted ssb in an attempt to spot somthing conflicting yet ssb still loads?
[10:47] <Guest81588> Thanks for the help, Bazhang and OerHeks.
[10:48] <OerHeks> Guest81588, it is fixed?
[10:48] <Guest81588> Its doing something it wasn;'t before, so I guess so!
[10:49] <kingchipo> any advice?
[10:54] <maktareq> hi
[10:54] <kingchipo> Guess no one wants to get into those awesome broadcom drivers with me at 5 am :(
[10:57] <jane_> hi
[10:58] <olegon-ru> hello, can anybody pay attention for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1397277 ?
[10:58] <olegon-ru> any ideas?
[10:58] <bazhang> olegon-ru, its undecided
[10:59] <bazhang> olegon-ru, sign up to be notified of progress, and supply info when asked
[10:59] <OerHeks> kingchipo, i find in the docs that you need broadcom STA https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[10:59] <olegon-ru> bazhang: sorry, I'm newbie in Ubuntu, is this mentioned, that I must wait for developer?
[11:00] <bazhang> olegon-ru, for someone to be assigned that bug, yes
[11:01] <olegon-ru> bazhang: i915 too hard to understood driver, supposed to try some variants... thanks, waiting...
[11:03] <kingchipo> oerheks, The doc seems to say i need b43legacy?
[11:06] <kingchipo> oerheks,  ill try installing sta
[11:06] <OerHeks> kingchipo, read this part https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BroadcomSTA(Wireless)#b43fwcutter_with_firmware-b43-installer_works_for_model_numbers , so remove the legacy driver and  sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer ( and reboot)
[11:08] <kingchipo> oerheks, ok sure thing sorry very tired been at this a while
[11:16] <ionelmc> hello
[11:16] <ionelmc> i have 2 network interfaces, both dhcp - can i make the dhcp client avoid picking one of the interfaces as the default gateway ?
[11:19] <kingchipo> oerheks, after running the commands there is no longer any access point detected
[11:20] <OerHeks> kingchipo, did you reboot?
[11:20] <kingchipo> yes
[11:22] <OerHeks> you have removed that STA driver too?
[11:23] <kingchipo> Never installed the STA driver
[11:23] <kingchipo> Would you like me to upload my lsmod results?
[11:24] <philip_> virt-manger says default 52.04GB free/ 214.98 GB in use
[11:41] <kingchipo> ill try ndiswrapper
[11:55] <kofel> Hi, I have question regarding CUPS printers sharing
[11:55] <kofel> is there anyone experienced in this?
[11:55] <pecanha> Hello! iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/32 -j CLASSIFY –-set-class 1:20 is generating bad argument --set-class. However I didn't see why as its described on man. Any idea?
[12:01] <iptable> pecanha: check your font and characters on --set-class. looks like the first - is not a normal -
[12:02] <pecanha> iptable: :O
[12:02] <pecanha> iptable: indeed.... crappy!
[12:03] <pecanha> iptable: thank you
[12:05] <iptable> no worries
[12:05] <samthewildone> Does Ubuntu have an agenda ?
[12:05] <samthewildone> Like a Planner Software.
[12:05] <iptable> channel or OS?
[12:05] <iptable> oh
[12:06] <cfhowlett> samthewildone, search the software center <project> for several options
[12:08] <samthewildone> Bah... thanks cfhowlett. What I need is just a simply virtual sticky
[12:08] <samthewildone> Got so much work to do today ...
[12:09] <samthewildone> trying to get mySQL script working, autoresponders working... everything up and running @ 100% by Monday.
[12:09] <samthewildone> Running on ~2 hours of sleep
[12:14] <zebra5000> pwn
[12:21] <kingchipo> Hey guys btw ndiswrapper worked flawlessly in getting my wireless card working, bcm4306
[12:23] <cfhowlett> kingchipo,  ndiswrapper?  pretty sure that's the wrong tool.  Have you the ubuntu .iso?
[12:23] <cfhowlett> or USB?
[12:23] <asdasd> asdas
[12:24] <kingchipo> cflhowlett, Im sorry i dont understand the question? Also im on lubuntu
[12:26] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, version?
[12:26] <kingchipo> 14.04
[12:26] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, perfect.  wait 1
[12:26] <kingchipo> sure
[12:26] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, 386 or amd 64?
[12:27] <kingchipo> 386
[12:28] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, OK --- you need 2 .deb packages for the broadcom and it should fire right up.
[12:28] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, sudo apt-get install dkms
[12:29] <kingchipo> lol While i would prefer for it work natively, im rather scared to mess with it.
[12:30] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, this works about 80 % of the time and doesn't even require reboot.  your choice.
[12:30] <kingchipo> hmm ok lets give it a go..
[12:30] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get install dkms bcmwl-kernel-source
[12:31] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, that command should grab and install 2 packages.
[12:31] <kingchipo> ok both are installed
[12:31] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, but you can sandbox test with sudo apt-get -s install dkms bcmwl-kernel-source
[12:31] <kingchipo> no worries
[12:31] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, check your wifi --- it should be active
[12:32] <kingchipo> hmm, well its currently active with ndiswrapper should sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper ?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, ndis will conflict with these 2 packages.  disable it
[12:33] <kingchipo> the package you gave me is wl correct?
[12:33] <kingchipo> the sta drivers?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, yes
[12:34] <cfhowlett> actually, check your additional drivers --- might even be there
[12:34] <kingchipo> I blacklisted them when i installed ndiswrapper, let me remove wl from blacklist and add ndiswrapper really quickly
[12:35] <kingchipo> k rebooting
[12:35] <kingchipo> if this works natively.. ill be surprised haha
[12:35] <kingchipo> suprised
[12:37] <kingchipo> ummm are you a genie?
[12:37] <kingchipo> I dont understand
[12:37] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, so .. it works?
[12:37] <kingchipo> Yes..
[12:37] <kingchipo> I tried the sta drivers...........
[12:37] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, it's all in the wrist, amigo
[12:37] <kingchipo> they didnt work x.x
[12:38] <kingchipo> now they work ????
[12:38] <kingchipo> and signal is stronger x.x
[12:38] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, make a note of those 2 files for future reference.
[12:38] <kingchipo> dkms is the culprit?
[12:38] <kingchipo> err savior?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> fun fact: on a live USB session, those files are present in cdrom>filesystem>pool>main>d>dkms   and pool>restricted>b>bcmwl
[12:39] <kingchipo> lol, why arent these steps in the docs....?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> run a terminal and dpkg -i those 2 files and you have wifi on your live session.  I do it all the time at the Apple store to "borrow" their box
[12:40] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, they actually are
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !broadcom
[12:40] <jane_> I
[12:41] <kingchipo> Yeah but that doc says i should the b43legacy driver LOL
[12:41] <kingchipo> i should use*
[12:41] <kingchipo> which i tryed lol for about six hours
[12:42] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, entirely possible that's bad info but the STA driver comes direct direct from broadcom and should work with most chipsets.  don't know why 4306 isn't listed
[12:42] <kingchipo> hmmm.. that broke html5 support..???
[12:43] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, no = should have no effect on html5
[12:44] <kingchipo> you wouldnt think so.
[12:44] <kingchipo> oh never mind, mozzilla just being bad
[12:45] <kingchipo> cflhowlett, b43legacy does not work whatsoever with the bfm4306 rev2
[12:45] <kingchipo> it allows the card to see acess points but it will not connect
[12:45] <kingchipo> someone should change that...
[12:46] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, feel free :)
[12:47] <kingchipo> doing so :D
[12:47] <InvaderXx> hi
[12:49] <ysh> the bealtes
[12:50] <InvaderXx> hi
[12:51] <InvaderXx> let me ask , for what thing is that chat used ?]
[12:52] <kingchipo> Oh immutable page, can i submit a recomended change?
[12:55] <Elrond2015> \list
[12:56] <cfhowlett> kingchipo, might have to mail the page manager, I guess.
[13:00] <qubic> someone keeps sending me an email exploit (ever since I bought something with paypal). i get several everyday. if i set up a honey pot vm (say windows xp machine with dummy credit card files which contain my own exploits), can they pivot beyond the virtual machine to my main machine?
[13:00] <Ben64> qubic: really not on topic here
[13:01] <qubic> i was just on netsec but got bounced
[13:01] <qubic> sorry
[13:01] <hateball> qubic: You could ask in the ## for whatever hypervisor you're using I guess
[13:02] <qubic> hateball: yep sorry. just got bounced..
[13:05] <frank___> can someone give me a hand with an ubuntu problem
[13:07] <trijntje> frank___: sure, ask away
[13:09] <frank___> when i was downloading ubuntu the internet was working. the updates downloaded fine. but after the installation, when i log into the desktop, the internet no longer works
[13:09] <cfhowlett> frank___, you need to configure your wifi chipset
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !wifi
[13:10] <frank___> i am using a wired connection
[13:11] <xkubic19> /close
[13:14] <frank___> does it apply to wired as well?
[13:15] <DrDroid> frank___ I assume that you are using the Internet from a different machine since you are connected to this channel?
[13:15] <frank___> yeah
[13:15] <iptable> frank___: no, it only applies to wireless. wired connection is separate. Can you please explain "internet no longer works"?
[13:16] <iptable> frank___: does the network manager show no connection on wired or shows connection is established
[13:17] <frank___> well, when i was installing ubuntu it said it was connected to the internet during the installatiin. but after finishing the installation, when i log into the desktop, it says disconnected, and no neteork devices available
[13:17] <SrPx> Hello, does anyone know  where I can find a premium ultrabook, with 13" or 14" screen and a very high pixel resolution (ie, 2880x1800 etc), 16hrs+ battery life, that goes well with Ubuntu?
[13:17] <frank___> during the installation ubuntu was able to connect and download updates
[13:18] <iptable> frank___: did you reboot afte rinstalling updates?
[13:18] <frank___> yeah
[13:19] <iptable> frank___: open terminal.
[13:19] <iptable> frank___: type in: ifconfig
[13:19] <iptable> frank___: tell me what interfaces you see
[13:20] <iptable> frank___: actually ifconfig -a
[13:20] <frank___> do you want me to type it all?
[13:21] <iptable> frank___: ifconfig -a
[13:21] <iptable> frank___: yes the whole 'ifconfig -a' bit. :/
[13:21] <frank___> ok :)
[13:26] <frank___> lo link encap:local loopback inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS> mask:<IP_ADDRESS> inet6 addr: ::1/128 scope:host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 metric:1 RX packets:36 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 Tx packets:36 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[13:26] <frank___> i have two more lines to type
[13:26] <bubina> ciao
[13:26] <bubina> !list
[13:26] <cfhowlett> SrPx, 16 hours?  16 HOURS?  not bloody likely.  even the macbook will only get you 12
[13:27] <vbgunz> upon bootup, I somehow keep unlocking the wrong encrypted partition. I should be unlocking A but I keep unlocking B. I checked my fstab and crypttab and they seem correct, they seem to be pointing to the right device but the wrong device keeps unlocking. what else is in charge of unlocking the device?
[13:27] <bubina> ciao
[13:27] <cfhowlett> frank___, paste it please
[13:27] <SrPx> cfhowlett: =( I have a macbook I didn't know it was the best ?
[13:27] <SrPx> cfhowlett: the problem with my mac is exactly that battery is great with osx but terrible with ubuntu
[13:27] <frank___> it is on another computer
[13:27] <frank___> i am using a kindle to type
[13:28] <cfhowlett> SrPx, for the specs you just listed?  possibly.  the dell m3800 is looking good - don't know about the ubuntu + battery though.  the dell xps 13 Developer Edition doesn't meet your screen resolution but it is due for a refresh any day.
[13:28] <frank___> mayb  i can email it to myself. just a minute
[13:28] <frank___> maybe
[13:28] <frank___> oh wait no internet
[13:28] <SrPx> Hmm I see
[13:28] <frank___> on my ubuntu
[13:29] <SrPx> so installing ubuntu on a mac is actually a good option cfhowlett ?
[13:29] <frank___> should i finish the other two lines?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> SrPx, there are native supported laptops but you specified some very ambitious specifications ...
[13:31] <SrPx> cfhowlett: I see
[13:32] <SrPx> if the problem is the battery, what is the best I can get, then?
[13:33] <iptable> frank___: I asked for interface names only
[13:33] <dasjoe> One with a replaceable battery
[13:33] <cfhowlett> SrPx, system 76?
[13:33] <iptable> frank___: like lo, eth0, etc
[13:33] <iptable> frank___: the first column
[13:33] <cfhowlett> SrPx, and dasjoe is spot on with the battery recommendation
[13:33] <dasjoe> SrPx: the Lenovo T-series has two batteries, one is external and hot-swappable while the internal one powers the laptop
[13:34] <Domz94> !list
[13:34] <SrPx> Great idea, are there chargers for batteries without the note?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> SrPx, and lenovo seems to be pretty linux friendly.  I test an x1 carbon touch at my local lenovo store.  everything worked OOTB
[13:34] <cfhowlett> SrPx, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[13:34] <frank___> lo link inet inet6 UP RX TX Rx
[13:35] <frank___> those?
[13:35] <iptable> frank___: first COLUMN. Not ROW!
[13:35] <iptable> lo is one interface.
[13:35] <iptable> do you have others? on the same column. somewhere some lines under lo, does it say wlan0 or eth0 or em1 or something
[13:36] <frank___> no thats it
[13:36] <cfhowlett> SrPx, also:  http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-laptop?c=us&l=en&s=biz
[13:37] <iptable> frank___: type in: dmesg
[13:37] <iptable> frank___: look for any indication of your network card
[13:37] <iptable> frank___: ethX or emX, or "network" etc
[13:37] <iptable> frank___: also command lspci
[13:38] <iptable> frank___: will show you list of pci cards. check for network card (wired). It looks like the system doesn't see your network card AT ALL
[13:39]  * iptable goes to make a coffee ... sleeeeeep
[13:39] <SrPx> (researching, thanks)
[13:40] <SrPx> http://i.dell.com/sites/imagecontent/products/PublishingImages/xps-13-l321x-mlk/images/laptop-xps-13-MLK-love-pdp-module-2.jpg wtf
[13:41] <cfhowlett> SrPx, current model: xps 13-9333
[13:42] <frank___> still looking
[13:44] <SrPx> cfhowlett: thanks a lot but tbh it is looking very bad comparing to the MBP :( I guess I have an idea though
[13:45] <cfhowlett> SrPx, perfectly legal to dual boot ... or even triple ...
[13:46] <SrPx> cfhowlett: uh huh... I'm actually thinking in installing X on osx, if that is possible... the thing I miss most is xmonad
[13:46] <frank___> bluetooth ethernet emulation? thats the only thing i found
[13:49] <frank___> i did the lspci command and found.  network and ethernet controller
[13:50] <frank___> i also found some things that say failed to start, if that is relevant
[13:51] <iptable> frank___: what ugprade were you doing and on what system? ubuntu? what version?
[13:51] <frank___> i was replacing windows vista with ubuntu 4.10
[13:52] <iptable> you mean 14.10
[13:52] <frank___> yeah, sorry
[13:52] <iptable> windows vista? so it's an old machine?
[13:53] <frank___> yeah its an older one. around 2004-2006
[13:53] <iptable> ugh. frank___ try ubuntu 12.04 with all updates. If it works, try ubuntu 14.04 with all updates. If it works stick with 14.04, if it doesn't, stick with 12.04. both are still supported for some time still
[13:54] <alami> i can't apt-get update, error message is No enough Space, here is a df -h output http://pastie.org/9748571
[13:54] <iptable> frank___: truth being, it's a very old machine and newer kernel/drivers might be removing support for it's HW
[13:54] <iptable> It's 10yo
[13:54] <hateball> alami: could be not enough space on /boot, did you try "apt-get autoremove" ?
[13:54] <kanupatar> May I know where can I get Logitech G27 steering wheel driver in ubuntu?
[13:55] <frank___> alright, ill try out the older versions. should i try xubuntu too?
[13:55] <frank___> thanks
[13:56] <daniel> hello
[13:56] <alami> hateball: seem that apt-get autoremove help, thanks a lot
[13:58] <OerHeks> kanupatar, this guide may be a help https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=142372419
[13:58] <hateball> alami: :)
[13:59] <digitalsurgeon> why does ubuntu 14 has such an old version of ruby ?
[14:00] <Guest4905> hello guys
[14:00] <Guest4905> pls i need ur help
[14:00] <Guest4905> i want to crack a software so i can use it for multiple pcs
[14:01] <kanupatar> OerHeks: is that driver for G27?
[14:01] <Guest4905> right nw i only have the serial for one pc and it is pc specific , anybody can help teach me how to do it?
[14:02] <OerHeks> kanupatar, for more than one steeringwheel, g27 is there too, no?
[14:02] <kanupatar> OerHeks: sorry
[14:03] <OerHeks> Guest4905, poor you, ubuntu does not need serialnumbers
[14:03] <OerHeks> !hacking > Guest4905
[14:03] <kanupatar> OerHeks:  didn't see any KOs generated
[14:03] <kanupatar> for the USB HID device
[14:04] <OerHeks> kanupatar, i can't help you there :-(
[14:05] <kanupatar> OerHeks: ok
[14:06] <blami> hi, if I have utopic and vivid apt lists enabled and I have all packages pinned to utopic is it possible to install whole gnome3.14 desktop somehow or there's no ubuntu-gnome-desktop for gnome3.14 yet?
[14:08] <OerHeks> blami, bad idea to mix repos.
[14:09] <Ben64> blami: great way to break your install irreparably
[14:09] <White_Cat> I am trying to merge two csv files. How can I do this with least amount of effort? :/
[14:09] <xkubic19> klfnd fkdjf ldkjaf
[14:09] <blami> Ben64: I can live with that, I do daily snapshots using btrfs
[14:09] <White_Cat> both files have their 3rd column mostly shared
[14:10] <Ben64> blami: well have fun. don't expect to get help here with any problems in the future
[14:10] <rhys> hello
[14:11] <blami> Ben64: thanks
[14:11] <xkubic19> ahojky deti
[14:12] <knewguy> Ben64 you're cool
[14:12] <knewguy> blami, please do expect to get help here.  this is a help channel
[14:13] <knewguy> Ben64 is just grumpy because he didn't have a good thanksgiving
[14:13] <knewguy> (lol)
[14:13] <Ben64> knewguy: nobody here is going to support mixing repositories like that
[14:13] <blami> knewguy: I was warned by Debian guys. Actually I agree with both of them and don't consider Ben64 to be grumpy :)
[14:13] <xkubic19> hello
[14:13] <knewguy> i support mixing repositories
[14:14] <knewguy> what's wrong with experimenting that's how you learn
[14:14] <Ben64> i said have fun, just it is not supported here
[14:14] <knewguy> uh, why can't you discuss linux in here ben64?
[14:15] <knewguy> it's a chatroom, not a paid-support system with a certain scope
[14:15] <Ben64> it isn't a chatroom, it is a dedicated ubuntu support room, with certain rules
[14:15] <knewguy> okay where does it say you can't talk about mixing repositories?
[14:15] <blami> knewguy: I suppose there's alot of "normal" linux users who might read a bad advice
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> knewguy  #ubuntu-offtopic for nice social chat
[14:15] <knewguy> lol!
[14:16] <iptable> If you are mixing ubuntu with debian repositories, you could ask on #debian instead :D Adding debian repos to ubuntu is not supported here
[14:16] <blami> if it's not being supported I can live with that. I just wanted to know if there's ubuntu-gnome-desktop that consolidates gnome components in vivid
[14:16] <iptable> For general fiddly stuff and how to (un)break your mixed ubu-debian distro (essentialyl you done that), try #linux
[14:16] <White_Cat> Ben64 fun isnt supported here? :p
[14:16] <blami> iptable: I actually mix utopic and vivid and I'm pinned to utopic to pull just few items from vivid I need
[14:17] <knewguy> well i was just defending blami.  Ben64 doesn't seem to want to help anybody
[14:17] <knewguy> carry on gentlemen
[14:17] <knewguy> (LOL!)
[14:17] <iptable> blami: isn't vivid in beta?
[14:17] <Ben64> knewguy: you've been here all of 2 hours, you really should read the rules of this channel before talking
[14:17] <iptable> Ben64: ^
[14:17] <Ben64> iptable: sure is, support is in #ubuntu+1 until april 2015
[14:17] <iptable> Ben64: vivid is beta, right? I was sure it was 15.04
[14:17] <iptable> yes
[14:18] <iptable> blami: vivid repositories and packages are not supported here. only on #ubuntu+1
[14:18] <knewguy> Ben64 the rules?  you're the one who has failed to cite where in the rules it says you can't talk about mixing repositories (LOL2X!)
[14:18] <ikonia> allow me to clarify
[14:18] <ikonia> the aim of the channel is to provide meaningful support
[14:18] <ikonia> not help people break their systems
[14:18] <iptable> knewguy: the user is mixing repositories from ubuntu+1 (future release). these are not supported here
[14:19] <ikonia> "give good advice" is the policy
[14:19] <ikonia> and telling people to mix repos is not good advice, hence "don't do it"
[14:19] <iptable> general linux fiddly things are normally sorted on #linux channel, let me repear that
[14:19] <blami> iptable: thanks. that's useful. I'm stopping this. Is there any channel where people might help me to do what I want (aka unofficial support that might break my system?)
[14:19] <ikonia> !guidelines > knewguy
[14:19] <knewguy> whatever
[14:19] <anonim> does packages from ppa get upgraded when I run dist-upgrade?
[14:19] <ikonia> knewguy: check the link from ubottu to get some guidelines on how to use the channel sucessfully
[14:19] <knewguy> ikonia why didn't you msg me directly?
[14:19] <iptable> blami: as I have already said 2 times, #linux channel. Do you even read what I write?
[14:19] <knewguy> kind of weird using a bot...
[14:20] <blami> iptable: ok I'll ask generic apt question on debian channel :) thanks to all
[14:20] <ikonia> knewguy: the bot gives you links/info rather than have me type it out manually
[14:20] <albert__>  中国人的信仰就是：去他妈的，活下去最重要。
[14:20] <ikonia> nothing weird about it
[14:20] <Ben64> blami: if you have questions about packages in 15.04, you can ask in #ubuntu+1 but I doubt they'll help you with mixing U and V
[14:21] <iptable> blami: any reason you are avoiding #linux ?
[14:21] <blami> iptable: no
[14:21] <znc-> hey, would like to clean my drive, too much storage is used
[14:22] <blami> iptable: on #debian will be probably better chance to get some help as debian people usually mix testing+stable to do similar thing (I'm also debian upgradee)
[14:22] <iptable> znc-: and?
[14:22] <ikonia> znc-: what's stopping you ?
[14:22] <znc-> dont know how to do it
[14:22] <ikonia> #debian will not help you add ubuntu repos
[14:22] <ikonia> znc-: open file manager, delete the data you don't need/want any more
[14:23] <iptable> znc-: open file manager (or click on "home" to get to home directory) and remove files you don't need from Download/Desktop/Documents folders
[14:23] <znc-> would be nicer to get it automatically
[14:23] <ikonia> znc-: how can you automate deleting user data ?
[14:23] <iptable> znc-: how would an automatic system know which files you want to keep...
[14:23] <ikonia> the whole point of it is, it's your data
[14:23] <znc-> analyzing what is just wastelike
[14:23] <znc-> and could be just removed
[14:23] <blami> ikonia: it's rather apt related question than ubuntu specific question, I'll manage
[14:23] <ikonia> znc-: what defines what's waste ?
[14:24] <cbtis> hey
[14:24] <znc-> sure that is the question
[14:24] <ikonia> znc-: the answer is "you" the user define what is waste
[14:24] <znc-> cannot be buliding something and nearly 20gb are gone
[14:24] <znc-> ridiculous
[14:24] <Ben64> there is a program... bleachbit it kind of shows you what you could remove, but it may want to remove things you want to keep
[14:25] <znc-> Ben64 thx
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> yes, it's also possible to delete "orphaned packages" or so
[14:25] <cbtis> how to use ubuntu
[14:25] <cbtis> ???
[14:25] <Ben64> !manual | cbtis
[14:25] <znc-> Ben64 is there something like an ui for
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> cbtis  learn it like you learned windows or mac: by using it
[14:26] <znc-> dont like console
[14:26] <iptable> znc-: it is YOUR data. You need to choose what you want to remove. I have some files which I haven't touched for 3 months (5GB+ large) and others that I downloaded last night that I don't need
[14:26] <Ben64> znc-: bleachbit is a graphical program
[14:26] <iptable> znc-: there is no automation to help you make up your mind what you want to delete
[14:26] <znc-> oki
[14:26] <cbtis> ok thank you
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> znc-  but do try   sudo apt-get autoremove    to start
[14:27] <znc-> MonkeyDust yeah also thought about autoremove
[14:27] <znc-> well lets try
[14:28] <basichash> we just got a new router, but my linux can\'t access it using either the network key or the WPS-PIN
[14:29] <basichash> anyone know how to get this working?
[14:31] <periklis> how can i install python v3 but not running in my terminal???...i wnt to act like a separetet progrm
[14:31] <basichash> periklis: ..................
[14:31] <basichash> what?
[14:31] <basichash> you want the python shell?
[14:32] <periklis> yep
[14:32] <basichash> ubuntu software center, python interpreter
[14:32] <periklis> ok
[14:32] <basichash> IDLE
[14:32] <basichash> v3
[14:32] <periklis> thnks lot
[14:33] <basichash> yw
[14:33] <znc-> my loginscreen fails how to start in console
[14:33] <basichash> periklis: sudo apt-get install idle-python3.4 should do it too
[14:33] <basichash> znc-: shame
[14:33] <znc-> hmm
[14:33] <basichash> reformat your machine
[14:33] <znc-> lol
[14:34] <iptable> basichash: stop spamming
[14:34] <basichash> iptable: excuse me?
[14:34] <iptable> znc-: ctrl+alt+f2
[14:35] <iptable> basichash: you are excused
[14:35] <znc-> yeah it works
[14:35] <znc-> thx
[14:35] <iptable> znc-: no problem
[14:35] <albert__>  中国人的信仰就是：去他妈的，活下去最重要。
[14:35] <cfhowlett> !cn | albert__,
[14:35] <White_Cat> how can I merge two csv files (each on their 3rd column). this would be more of an outer join
[14:35] <basichash> iptable: how am i spamming?
[14:35] <basichash> you the local SJW?
[14:36] <White_Cat> I need to merge them but I am also curious about the difference
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  if you don't get an answer here, try asking in #bash
[14:36] <iptable> basichash: ever heard of a space bar as opposed to constant carriage return? and providing useful answers instead of "reformat your machine" ?
[14:36] <White_Cat> MonkeyDust, well I am trying my lukc here first :p
[14:36] <White_Cat> luck even
[14:36] <basichash> you can't make a joke on this channel?
[14:36] <iptable> White_Cat: Well, I could do it by importing to mysql and joining there, but I do realise that's not optimal
[14:37] <White_Cat> iptable I had that idea too but it felt too much work for little gain
[14:37] <basichash> way to encourage involvement in the community
[14:37] <iptable> basichash: you can, if it is well calculated, not aimed at someone in trouble (in which case it could be taken as laughing at them).
[14:38] <basichash> iptable: yeah, i don't think he actually took me seriously, hence the 'lol'
[14:38] <iptable> White_Cat: yar. CSV are hard to parse though due to rules. e.g. rob,bob is CSV. But if you have , in text, example: rob,"bob,comma,example",something
[14:38] <blami> White_Cat: there's csv toolkit that contains cvsvjoin: http://csvkit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/scripts/csvjoin.html it's written in python and should work in ubuntu
[14:39] <blami> White_Cat: it might help
[14:39] <iptable> White_Cat: and " need to be escaped and a few more quirks. All in all just a pain to work with using awk/sed or other string processing tools
[14:39] <znc-> phew kde loads
[14:39] <basichash> znc-, sorry for nearly making you reformat your machine
[14:39] <somsip> White_Cat: is this any good? There may be other similar programs if not http://csvkit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/scripts/csvjoin.html
[14:39] <znc-> no proble it was a solution so thx too
[14:39] <iptable> basichash: ok, just bear in mind we had people joke rm -rf / and others remove their systems. Please keep it in mind, not everyone will treat it as a joke
[14:40] <somsip> White_Cat: alternative - http://superuser.com/questions/26834/how-to-join-two-csv-files
[14:41] <znc-> trying bleachbit
[14:41] <znc-> 95,5 MB gone
[14:41] <znc-> well that wasnt the aim
[14:43] <iptable> znc-: most space is used by your /hmoe most likely, i.e. YOUR files in Documents/Downloads/Desktop. These tyou need to go thourgh and clean yourself!
[14:43] <iptable> znc-: we did tell you
[14:43] <znc-> understand
[14:43] <znc-> how can I just show the usage of space in the directory
[14:44] <znc-> my home just
[14:44] <iptable> right-click on the dir, properties
[14:44] <znc-> in terminal?
[14:44] <iptable> or from command line: du -hs /home/whatever
[14:44] <znc-> ok trying
[14:44] <iptable> replace whatever with your username
[14:45] <SohamG> On ubuntustudio, when I tried to logon today, after entering my password it showed me a blackscreen, and then got me back to login prompt.....And this kept happening. How do I fix this??
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> znc-  in your home directory, use this command, change 500M to any size   find / -size +500M -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> znc-  hope that helps ypou decide what you want to keep/delete
[14:46] <iptable> znc-: then you can do: du -hs /home/whatever/*
[14:46] <basichash> we just got a new router, but my linux can\'t access it using either the network key or the WPS-PIN. How can i access it?
[14:46] <iptable> znc-: that will show you usage per subdir in your home dir
[14:47] <iptable> basichash: define "can't access it"?
[14:47] <iptable> basichash: the GUI or trying to connecto via WiFi or via cable get an uplink, or what?
[14:48] <iptable> SohamG: fix your permissions on your home direcotry
[14:48] <iptable> SohamG: chown -R youruser:youruser /home/youruser
[14:48] <basichash> iptable: for some reason the network key or WPS-PIN on the router doesn't work on ubuntu, although it works fine on windows 7
[14:49] <iptable> WPS-PIN, so attempting to connect to the router's WiFi?
[14:49] <SohamG> can that be done through recovery mode?? and this happend all of a sudden...like yesterday i could login to my account no problem...
[14:49] <basichash> iptable: yeah
[14:49] <basichash> iptable: works on windows, doesn't on ubuntu
[14:49] <iptable> SohamG: ctrl+alt+f2, login to console, execute that command
[14:49] <iptable> basichash: I am guessing by "network key" you mean the password, i.e. WPA2 passkey ?
[14:50] <SohamG> 'login to console'? I am currently on a guest session so I cant really do anything...
[14:50] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:50] <iptable> SohamG: yes you can. Press ctrl+alt+f2
[14:50] <iptable> SohamG: that should take you to text-mode TTY2
[14:50] <iptable> BluesKaj: yo
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Hi iptable
[14:51] <basichash> iptable: yeah i believe so
[14:52] <iptable> basichash: "I believe so" ? what is the router you have?
[14:55] <pngl> I'd like to have a program which runs at startup and backups files with ssh. I'd like the program to run
[14:55] <pngl> after the keyring is enabled, so it doesn't prompt me for a passphrase. Is that possible?
[14:55] <iptable> pngl: yes
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> pngl  hint: create a cronjob and add @reboot in it
[14:56] <iptable> pngl: write your backup script, run it form /etc/rc.local or /etc/init.d (and enable to rc*.d) or run from crontab with @reboot time directive
[14:56] <iptable> MonkeyDust: damn. chased me to it :D
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> iptable  i was faster \o/
[14:56] <basichash> iptable: vodafone
[14:57] <iptable> basichash: what do you mean vodafone? what's the router?
[14:57] <iptable> basichash: tip: look for a sticker with make and model
[14:57] <pngl> iptable, MonkeyDust : ok. I'm not sure it will have access to passphrases by then, I tried putting my script in .config/autostart (which happens later if I understand correctly) and it failed
[14:57] <iptable> pngl: oh, you need it AFTER LOGIN?
[14:57] <basichash> iptable: astoria networks by twonky
[14:58] <iptable> pngl: GUI or shell?
[14:58] <basichash> DSL-EasyBOX 803 A
[14:58] <basichash> iptable: DSL-EasyBOX 803 A
[14:58] <pngl> iptable: gui
[14:58] <iptable> basichash: that explains why it only works with windows :P NoName router. let me see
[14:58] <iptable> pngl: on my mint/ubuntu I have "startup applications" option in the GUI
[14:58] <pngl> iptable: well I need it whenever the passphrases are accessible to an automated script
[14:58] <iptable> pngl: where I can add a script
[14:58] <SohamG> iptable: please can you give me the command (the chown one) again? I hopped in tty2 but didnt look at the command and coudnt get out of it :P
[14:59] <iptable> pngl: alternatively run it from crontab and make the script check and wait until passphrases are available
[14:59] <iptable> SohamG: lol, no worries. chown -R youruser:youruser /home/youruser
[14:59] <iptable> SohamG: replace youruser with your username
[15:00] <pngl> iptable: I think that's my main problem. How do I check for this. Right now it just fails if there's no terminal, or prompts me for the passphrase. I don't know how to make it wait.
[15:00] <SohamG> iptable: thanks!! and how do i get out of tty2?
[15:00] <iptable> SohamG: press ctrl+alt+f3 through to F8. one of them will be your login. eitrher F7 or F8 should be
[15:00] <SohamG> iptable: thanks again!
[15:00] <iptable> pngl: why not use the "startup applications" part?
[15:01] <iptable> SohamG: no worries
[15:01] <iptable> pngl: pretty much every piece of software has that. make it start there, sleep for 30 seconds and go.
[15:01] <iptable> pngl: you can add options to ssh with -o. google for the list. one of them will be to try auth with key only. and you should use shared keys instead of passwords with ssh if you want safe login.
[15:02] <pngl> iptable: Ok. That would work some fraction of the time but I'd like to know if there is a way to actually block on the event "keyring is up"
[15:02] <pngl> iptable: yes, I meant passphrase for the private key.
[15:02] <ketphish> Hi! My name is Alex :) Give me a registration code, please! Help newbie join to the linux mint community!
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> pngl  is this useful http://paste.ubuntu.com/9284032/
[15:04] <iptable> pngl: where is that passphrase coming up? does it get logged? where is the keyring? what is it, can you make it log? investigate that or don't use passwords on your key for the backup system
[15:04] <pngl> MonkeyDust: If I understand correctly, this copies a public key to a remote server. This is already set up in my case. But the client still needs a passphrase.
[15:05] <iptable> ketphish: there is no tregistration codes for linux ubuntu/mint. just download ISO and install
[15:05] <iptable> MonkeyDust: he setup encrypted with passphrase keys for ssh :/
[15:06] <iptable> pngl: don't use password on your keys if you want to automate the backup. or run your backup script from "startup applications" section of your GUI and make it sleep 60 or so seconds before it attempts to backup. the GUI startup applications start once you login
[15:06] <pngl> iptable: this is not secure. A passphrase encrypts a local private key. The passphrase is in the keyring, which stores encrypted data that is decrypted whenever I log in (the user password is the decryption key).
[15:06] <iptable> pngl: or instead I could just boot your backup server in single user mode unless you encrypted the hard drives
[15:06] <iptable> pngl: don't use password on your keys if you want to automate the backup. or run your backup script from "startup applications" section of your GUI and make it sleep 60 or so seconds before it attempts to backup. the GUI startup applications start once you login
[15:07] <iptable> the 60 seconds is "just in case"
[15:07] <iptable> pngl: I just encrypted my hard drives, problem solved :/
[15:07] <haidora> hey guys my software center  gives me an error when installing vlc
[15:07] <pngl> iptable: haha I should consider that.
[15:08] <iptable> haidora: what the an error?
[15:10] <haidora> please check your internet connection
[15:10] <iptable> haidora: please check your internet connection
[15:11] <haidora> i have internet connection
[15:11] <haidora> i am talking to you right now
[15:11] <iptable> haidora: are you sure? can you access wbesites like google and yahoo, and not just IRC?
[15:11] <iptable> haidora: please check. I need to know going out to ports 80 and 443 works
[15:12] <haidora> yes i even download a torrent after this error and i still get it
[15:12] <iptable> haidora: torrents download using IPs not hostnames. Can you actually access https://www.google.com and http://www.yahoo.co.uk
[15:12] <cfhowlett> haidora, "an error" ... paste the error!  we're not going to guess.
[15:12] <cfhowlett> !paste | haidora
[15:12] <xkubic19> make
[15:12] <iptable> haidora: if you can, then your sources file is broken possibly
[15:13] <iptable> haidora: if you can access the sites mentioned, go to terminal and try: sudo apt-get update
[15:13] <iptable> haidora: then pastebin the result to us
[15:19] <pistdov> hello, just installed 14.04 on a VM, but the desktop environment / default UI is different
[15:19] <pistdov> a little bit like osx, but you cant right click in desktop, and create a shortcut to terminal?
[15:19] <pistdov> is there a way to purge this default UI, and make it more desktop default?
[15:19] <pistdov> right click on desktop, should give me an option to "spawn a terminal"
[15:20] <iptable> pistdov: that is the ubuntu UI. it looks and works like this
[15:20] <compdoc> did you use the ubuntu iso, or some other way to install?
[15:20] <iptable> pistdov: if you want another UI, you could try kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, which feature other UIs
[15:21] <pistdov> the generic ubuntu iso
[15:21] <iptable> pistdov: or (although not supported here), mint
[15:21] <iptable> compdoc: he is just going through Unity shock
[15:21] <rypervenche> pistdov: What you are not liking is called Unity. It works differently from the "traditional" desktop environment that you are used to. Other desktop environments in Ubuntu are usually their own versions of Ubuntu, such as Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.
[15:22] <cfhowlett> pistdov, quick and easy: sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4 kde             then logout/choose your preferred session/login
[15:22] <pistdov> i have a macbook pro with osx 10x etc, but i didnt expect this o
[15:22] <pistdov> on this VM
[15:23] <pistdov> cfhowlett
[15:23] <pistdov> E: Package 'kde' has no installation candidate
[15:23] <pistdov> pistdov@ubuntu:~$
[15:23] <pistdov> via  sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4 kde
[15:23] <cfhowlett> !info kde
[15:23] <xangua> !info kubuntu-desktop
[15:24] <cfhowlett> pistdov, kubuntu-desktop not kde = sorry
[15:25] <pistdov> 853meg process
[15:25] <pistdov> via that now
[15:25] <cfhowlett> pistdov, you'll be getting the kubuntu desktop AND default apps ...
[15:26] <iptable> pistdov: you should download kubuntu ISO instead. Installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu-desktop introduces some issues with icons and themes being mixed between the 2 UIs. So note that kubuntu will look better if you install it form the ISO, not as kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu-desktop system
[15:28] <pistdov> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download-lts
[15:28] <pistdov> kubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64
[15:32] <m0h4wk> I have a question regarding switching between Ethernet and Wireless
[15:32] <m0h4wk> For some reason when I unplug my Ethernet, switch to wireless, I cannot go back to Ethernet without restarting the OS
[15:32] <iptable> m0h4wk: you can. with wire UNPLUGGED, turn off wireless. Then plug wire in
[15:33] <iptable> m0h4wk: if wireless is connected, linux may not switch you to avoid dropping connections
[15:34] <momomo> How can I create a launcher to the sound settings?
[15:34] <iptable> momomo: you cannot. sound settings are an applet and also part of the settings application.
[15:34] <iptable> momomo: you oculd install pavucontrol (a separate tool) and create a launcher to that
[15:35] <OerHeks> momomo, type 'sound' in dash, and drag that icon to your panel
[15:35] <iptable> momomo: someone here MAY soon correct me with something like "you can, the system settings control panel allows you to do it"
[15:35] <iptable> there we go ;)
[15:36] <iptable> I was 50% sure I was wrong for some reason. sorry. my bad.
[15:36] <estg11> !language
[15:36] <iptable> OerHeks: sorry and cheers
[15:36] <iptable> uhm, which part of the language was wrong?
[15:36] <OerHeks> np iptable, there is a lot to discover :-)
[15:36] <momomo> iptable, pavucontrol kind of sucks
[15:36] <estg11> !ask
[15:37] <bbigras__> Is is possible to have a sysvinit script run after a upstart script at startup or should I just migrate the sysvinit script to upstart?
[15:37] <iptable> estg11: are you a failed bot?
[15:37] <momomo> OerHeks, oh, fuck that worked. I tried it before but didn't then
[15:37] <estg11> !patience
[15:37] <iptable> momomo: see what OerHeks said. btw, pavucontrol doesn't look nice but is much mroe powerful
[15:37] <OerHeks> estg11, pm ubottu, so we don't see your actions
[15:38] <iptable> bbigras__: sysvinit is actually a script started by upstart at some point during boot ;)
[15:39] <iptable> bbigras__: so sysvinit still there and still start stuff, but upstart starts sysvinint at some point.
[15:39] <momomo> iptable, i've been mixing iwth pavucotnrol for quite a while, it seems to interfere with normal settings. didn't work as expected
[15:39] <bbigras__> iptable: thanks
[15:40] <pistdov> is the kubuntu iso installing in the background
[15:40] <pistdov> for a long time
[15:40] <iptable> momomo: yes, depends on what you try to do. I use pactl to join sinks and then pavucontrol for sound control (watching movie with headphones plugged in x2 with wife and also ytalking via the headphone microphones with each other)
[15:40] <pistdov> while that rainbow graphic just sits there?
[15:40] <iptable> momomo: it's not pervercy. we just don't want to wake the kids up
[15:41] <iptable> pistdov: using apt-get/software center?
[15:41] <pistdov> i see nothing, the activity light for the iso in vmware workstation 11
[15:41] <pistdov> saying easy install is going
[15:41] <iptable> pistdov: or kubuntu installer? rainbow waiter means wait normally
[15:41] <pistdov> but i see no progress indictators
[15:41] <pistdov> its just one big desktop with nothing
[15:41] <estg11> OerHeks, drop dead!
[15:41] <iptable> estg11: stop or you will be thrown out!
[15:41] <iptable> !ops |estg11 abusive troll
[15:42] <estg11> iptable, who cares!
[15:42] <popey> estg11: we don't talk to people like that round here, please.
[15:42] <pistdov> http://i.imgur.com/S9p7LRk.jpg
[15:42] <iptable> pistdov: could have hung. try rebooting.
[15:42] <pistdov> its actually going now
[15:43] <iptable> oh, ok
[15:43] <pistdov> took 8 min or so
[15:43] <pistdov> that is not ideal
[15:43] <popey> pistdov: what vm is that?
[15:43] <iptable> pistdov: patience ;)
[15:43] <momomo> iptable, sounds cool with duo functionality .. i will look into pactl
[15:43] <iptable> momomo: it's command line though
[15:43]  * cfhowlett adds one more abusive troll to the /ignore list.  hexchat is great for dealing with dummies!
[15:44] <iptable> momomo: google for "pactl join sinks", you will get a manual on it
[15:44] <iptable> momomo: join sinks, redirect mics to sinks, add a mic near the kids' bedrom, redirect that to your sinks and you end up with home cinema using 2x headphone with microphone with wife and an alert mic system when kids wake up so you can pause that heart-ripping movie in time ;)
[15:45] <iptable> oh damn. Time to go home or my train will run off from before me.
[15:45]  * iptable goes to enjoy the evening. laters all.
[15:47] <Plasmastar> pistdov: Yeah, what VM is that? Pretty sexy.
[15:47] <pistdov> ?
[15:47] <pistdov> its just the standard default bg for kubuntu 14.10
[15:47] <iptable> Plasmastar: vmware running kubuntu 14.10
[15:47] <Plasmastar> Ah. O:
[15:48] <pistdov> we get vmware workstaiton for free
[15:48] <pistdov> and fusion for osx, im big into esx
[15:48] <pistdov> and workstation
[15:48] <Plasmastar> Nice.
[15:49] <pistdov> vmware workstation is good to get familiar with
[15:49] <pistdov> if you never used it
[15:49] <pistdov> 30day trial etc
[15:49] <mindless1chaos> swoosh
[15:50]  * mindless1chaos
[15:50] <mindless1chaos> whois mindless_chaos
[15:53] <mindless1chaos> apparently i am already logged in
[15:53] <mindless1chaos> woops
[15:54] <mindless1chaos> must have left it logged in b4 i went to bed
[16:02] <pistdov> cant install vmware tools in kubuntu in vmware workstation, says "easy install" is still going
[16:02] <pistdov> but nothing is installing anymore
[16:03] <pistdov> ive removed the dvd drives, and added a base device, but still nothing
[16:04] <pistdov> n/m, this fixed it
[16:04] <pistdov> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1017687
[16:06] <Mike5kt> k
[16:09] <rubiksmomo> What's the easiest way for me to give remote assistance to someone? Should they install TeamViewer? They might be behind NAT.
[16:10] <popey> rubiksmomo: teamviewer works pretty well, yes.
[16:10] <popey> rubiksmomo: easy for new users to use too.
[16:10] <rubiksmomo> Any idea what is Multiarch? Would I need it?
[16:11] <maxvi> anybody know something like xmind, freemind but without java installing ?
[16:11] <sepen> rubiksmomo: if you need 32 and 64 binaries at same time then yes
[16:12] <rubiksmomo> oh, I don't see why I could. But I guess it doesn't hurt to have it
[16:12] <sepen> rubiksmomo: for example, you can run a x64 based S.O. but some binaries may need x32 libraries, etc.
[16:12] <ikeboy> how can I disable bootchart logging?
[16:13] <OerHeks> ikeboy, uninstall bootchart i guess.
[16:13] <sepen> see /lib or /lib64 (or even lib32 depending on distros) on your rootfs
[16:13] <ikeboy> is bootchart used for anything else? I'm just trying tofree up space.
[16:13] <rubiksmomo> OK, thanks
[16:13] <OerHeks> ikeboy, no, it is just a tool to show timing during boot
[16:13] <cmt29> My dns resolution drops in and out when I'm connected to my college network (normally OK for about 10 sec then drops, then occasionally picks up again), but it's fine when at home. Any ideas how to troubleshoot?
[16:14] <ikeboy> why does it use multiple gigs of space anyway? Does that mean my computer is not booting right?
[16:16] <AlexPortable> Anyone can help me opening acronis .tib files? I want to make sure my backup has been successfull
[16:16] <OerHeks> ikeboy, huh? multiple gigs is a lot, did you have it running for months? then you will have to delete a lot in /var/log/bootchart
[16:16] <ikeboy> I deleted a file called /dev/.bootchart/log/proc_ps.log, which was 4GB, and a day later it's 4GB again
[16:19] <Patrese> Hi
[16:27] <skypce> hello all
[16:27] <skypce> i need install a package from precise in trusty
[16:27] <skypce> do you know the way for to it?
[16:29] <bluezone> my damn mouse is too fast and it's bothering me so much, i can't reduce the speed anymore with the GUI and i don't understand how to use xset
[16:30] <Patrese> My ubuntu does not boot, after crashing while upgrading!
[16:30] <Patrese> iwl4965 0000:08:00.0: Aggregation not able for tid 0 because load = 1
[16:38] <cfhowlett> skypce, generally not a wise thing to do ...
[17:02] <nice__guy> hey everyone
[17:02] <aberrant> hi all
[17:02] <EriC^^> hey
[17:03] <EriC^^> hi
[17:03] <aberrant> I messed up my /etc/wpa.config - can someone paste an example?
[17:04] <EriC^^> hmm
[17:04] <nice__guy> i want to know why my system crashes while using touchpad and nvidia server
[17:06] <Sniperfox47> Does anybody know why Ubuntu is recommended in 32 bit rather than 64 bit?
[17:07] <cfhowlett> Sniperfox47, where do you see that?
[17:07] <nice__guy> please help
[17:07] <Sniperfox47> cfhowlett: unless its changed recently, it was recommended that way on Ubuntu's main site. At least it was when I got my sister on the Linux bandwagon...
[17:08] <VanceX> Sniperfox47: How much system memory do you have?
[17:09] <Sniperfox47> Ah nvm. Apparently it has changed. It's showing 64-bit recommended when I go on there on my phone. Ignore me, I'm an idiot
[17:10] <xkubic19> make
[17:11] <nice__guy> help me
[17:13] <momomo> how do I add a shortcut to pop up the menu for unity ?
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> momomo  keep the super-key pressed to see the shortcuts
[17:18] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone please help me with adding a custom action to kde/dolphin. i can get it to show up. here's my mediainfo.desktop file https://clbin.com/p9Tlb
[17:18] <mrdeb> hi, is unity more stable on big video cards like 512mb or more
[17:19] <cfhowlett> mrdeb, bigger is better
[17:21] <mrdeb> unity is very bloated and needs to change to mutter
[17:22] <mrdeb> stop doign compiz, oplease
[17:22] <mrdeb> thank u
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb  if you don't like it, don't use it
[17:22] <cfhowlett> mrdeb, don't like = don't use it.  there are at least 6 different DE's you can use
[17:22] <sepen> hi
[17:23] <mrdeb> yes they crash too
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb  your point being...
[17:23] <mrdeb> i mean i want somethign stable
[17:23] <cfhowlett> mrdeb, "roll your own" linux distro
[17:23] <mrdeb> i put on ubuntu mate, but hten caja file manager is crashign
[17:24] <mrdeb> ubuntu regular files doesnt crash but unity adn chrome too
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb  i'm sure you'll find something of your liking on distrowatch
[17:24] <mrdeb> doubt it
[17:24] <VanceX> mrdeb: Openbox
[17:25] <cfhowlett> mrdeb, use ubuntu server.  no gui.  no desktop environment.  no problem.
[17:25] <mrdeb> openbox works
[17:25] <mrdeb> only stable de i foudn so far
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb  great, but did you have a support question?
[17:26] <VanceX> mrdeb: Ob is a window manager
[17:26] <mrdeb> yes i know
[17:26] <Esmer> hi
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb  discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:27] <w00tburger> can someone help me explain why the font size in the title bars is absolutely huge?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> w00tburger  try myunity to change it
[17:29] <w00tburger> not ini apt-cache, cant locate that on my system either
[17:29] <w00tburger> wheres that located at?
[17:29] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone please help me with adding a custom action to kde/dolphin. i can get it to show up. here's my mediainfo.desktop file https://clbin.com/p9Tlb
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> w00tburger  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[17:31] <w00tburger> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> !find myunity
[17:32] <squinty> or trusty
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> hm, seems to be gone
[17:33] <w00tburger> ugh, hiDPI displays, virtual box, and linux. I dont think I have any hair left
[17:33] <megahaxor> http://bit.ly/1pw80IO
[17:35] <squinty> w00tburger:  might want to see if  unity-tweak-tool  has the options you are looking for
[17:35] <w00tburger> i dont get what I could have done. Its a fresh install and worked fine until I rebooted. Then... Life happened
[17:37] <arturo> que tal
[17:37] <arturo> no se como funciona esto
[17:38] <cfhowlett> !es | Artemis3
[17:38] <VanceX> w00burger: Have you had any display driver issues in the past?
[17:38] <cfhowlett> arturo, ^^^ sorry Artemis3
[17:38] <arturo> que tal
[17:38] <squinty> w00tburger:  quick check here shows   unity tweak tool > Fonts > Window title font is set at Ubuntu /Bold 11   it can be changed
[17:39] <trism> w00tburger: maybe the slider in System Settings/Displays/Scale for menu and title bars, got changed somehow?
[17:39] <w00tburger> I did change that, but I had changed it back to what this came as stock
[17:39] <w00tburger> I just installed the unity tweak
[17:40] <stoffus> d
[17:42] <w00tburger> so I turned down text scaling and it made it fit, now everything else is distorted
[17:43] <w00tburger> holy crap this is absolutely infuriating
[17:43] <w00tburger> im just going to re-install the thing, and maybe this time it will cooperate
[17:43] <Pericles> voy despistado
[17:44] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone please help me with adding a custom action to kde/dolphin. i can get it to show up. here's my mediainfo.desktop file https://clbin.com/p9Tlb
[17:48] <etzerd> hello all
[17:48] <etzerd> ?
[17:48] <Guest70001> A QUESTION Xubuntu install .I can install Ubuntu restricted extras ?
[17:48] <etzerd> is anyone here used Zorin-OS before?
[17:48] <etzerd> i just need a comparison
[17:50] <Guest70001> xubuntu. install extras restricted ubuntu? yes o no
[17:50] <squinty> Guest70001:  check in your sources to make sure that repository is turned on
[17:50] <bubbasaures> etzerd, Than do a comparison, not a ubuntu channel issue
[17:50] <ubuntuaddicted> Guest70001, yes, if you want to listen to mp3's. it's just because ubuntu can't package with it items which play back proprietary stuff
[17:51] <trijntje> Guest70001: ubuntu-restrictief
[17:51] <trijntje> xubuntu-restricted
[17:51] <xangua> !info xubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:51] <ubuntuaddicted> trijntje, sounds like he's in the installer
[17:52] <ubuntuaddicted> trijntje, there's the option to enable restricted extras right in the installer. at least that's how i read his question
[17:53] <poorroop> hi
[17:54] <ubuntuaddicted> hi
[17:58] <xangua> ubuntuaddicted: that option are not restricted extras
[17:58] <pngl> Is it possible to test upstart session jobd? doing sudo service jobname start works when jobname is in /etc/init, but not when it is in ~/.config/upstart
[17:58] <pngl> s/jobd/jobs
[17:58] <ubuntuaddicted> xangua, it get's you mp3 playback doesn't it?
[17:59] <pngl> s/when jobname/when jobname.conf
[17:59] <ubuntuaddicted> xangua, and isn't mp3 a "restricted extra"  are you saying enabling that during an install that's not the same as installing (x)ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[17:59] <xangua> yes
[18:05] <xvzf> I use lubuntu and have problems with my microphone settings on skype. In pavucontrol I see my mic working but when I do a skype test call it does not replay any sound. I switched off automatical setting of mixer levels in skype. What could I do to make it work?
[18:05] <Guest16307> I am running ubuntu 14.04 every time i try to put things on my flash drive it tells me i dont have root permission. anyway to solve this?
[18:06] <daftykins> Guest16307: yes, format it with an appropriate file system that doesn't have permissions set wrong
[18:09] <ubuntuaddicted> xvzf, when you launch skype and do the test call or the test to see if your mic is working have pavucontrol open while doing it and view the recording tab, make sure the device selected is the mic you want
[18:09] <xvzf> ubuntuaddicted: I will do in a minute
[18:10] <ubuntuaddicted> Guest16307, you can only write things to folders you have permissions to write to, so anywhere in /home/yourusernamehere/
[18:10] <xvzf> ubuntuaddicted: pavucontrol has shown my input but skype did not replay it back
[18:10] <dna113p> I'm looking for some advice on setting up a dual boot system with ubuntu. I really want to run ubuntu on a partition because I am learning to program and it seems like I should be learning linux. But I want to run windows for games and for adobe products. I have a 240GB ssd, and a 120 GB ssd... what would be a good way to partition such a system? Is this a stupid way to do it?
[18:11] <daftykins> dna113p: what's installed on what rightnow?
[18:12] <ubuntuaddicted> xvzf, this image may help. http://gyazo.com/2f14a8a7a9814067dcba6f1ec76f1571
[18:12] <dna113p> daftykins: right now I am running lubuntu on it. but i'm about to put in the 2 new ssds
[18:14] <rootgenie> Is there a channel for Geany?
[18:15] <daftykins> dna113p: so what's the existing disk and what's the plane for that? no Windows at all right now?
[18:15] <daftykins> !alis | rootgenie find out with
[18:16] <rootgenie> daftykins, nothing
[18:16] <daftykins> oops *plan
[18:16] <daftykins> rootgenie: bad luck then
[18:16] <dna113p> daftykins: yeah the existing disk is just 5400 rpm 240GB disk that i'm not going ot use anymore because the laptop can only fit 2 in it as is.
[18:16] <rootgenie> daftykins, do you know Geany?
[18:17] <rootgenie> Anone here familiar with Geany?
[18:17] <daftykins> rootgenie: no i don't have a clue what that is.
[18:17] <daftykins> rootgenie: ask a proper question if you want someone to respond
[18:17] <daftykins> but it has to be *ubuntu* support
[18:17] <xvzf> ubuntuaddicted: that indeed helped, thanks a lot
[18:18] <daftykins> dna113p: hmm, Windows on the 240GB and ubuntu on the 120GB then
[18:18] <dna113p> daftykins: could it be smart to leave a partition for data that both OSs would have easy access too?
[18:19] <daftykins> dna113p: you haven't got much space to play with on either. Ubuntu will read the NTFS volumes fine
[18:19] <rootgenie> Anyone here familiar with Geany?
[18:20] <squinty> rootgenie:  http://www.geany.org/Support/IRC
[18:20] <rootgenie> squinty, thanks a lot
[18:21] <daftykins> rootgenie: so you didn't even try to use alis, nice job.
[18:21] <rootgenie> daftykins, i tried but for some reason i had the same background and foreground so that's why it gave nothing
[18:23] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone please help me with adding a custom action to kde/dolphin. i can get it to show up. here's my mediainfo.desktop file https://clbin.com/p9Tlb