[12:18] <najib> hey where is the themes section in kubuntu?
[12:18] <semistud2354> Attempting to open Rio and retrieve song list....Device not found.library tried to use method: libusb
[12:18] <semistud2354> thats what it says everytime i type rioutil -<letter>
[12:21] <sweettooth> !postgresql
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postgresql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <sweettooth> anyone could give a  hand on installing postgresql?
[12:23] <sweettooth> i have installed the suggested method, "sudo apt-get install postgresql-client-common"
[12:23] <sweettooth> then, "sudo apt-get install postgresql-client-8.2"
[12:24] <sweettooth> but i still have problems in accessing the server, or have i actually installed the server or not?
[12:24] <sweettooth> psql: could not connect to server: Connection refused
[12:24] <sweettooth>         Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting
[12:24] <sweettooth>         TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
[12:26] <djbrenden> millet limewirela ilgili bi sorum olacak .. yardmc olabilecek kimse varm ? ..
[12:26] <cWolfe> wtf?
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> no clue what country he is from..
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> his IP doesn't even say
[12:27] <cWolfe> all i made out was limewire
[12:27] <najib> hey how do  uinstall new icons?
[12:28] <najib> how do you install new icon themes?
[12:28] <sweettooth> !psql
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <TrueFX> how can i insert ` in konsole?
[12:29] <Dragnslcr> sweettooth- you only installed the client programs. If you want the server, you need the package postgresql
[12:30] <TrueFX> i cant produce that sign without using kcharselect program
[12:30] <TrueFX> is there a way to insert that kind of digraphs?
[12:30] <TrueFX> in konsole?
[12:30] <Dragnslcr> Actually, the current version is postgresql-8.2
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> najib: you can get wuite a few from the repositories
[12:30] <semistud2354> im looking at my /dev/ and i dont see sdb but i do see an snd....i dont know if that is the same thing
[12:31] <najib> nosredaekim, pardon me?
[12:31] <sweettooth> Dragnslcr, oh ic, just that i didnt see any postgresql-8.2, now i see it, thx, hehe
[12:31] <semistud2354> does anyone know how to find the new files/folders that got put in dev...after i pluged in my rio
[12:31] <semistud2354> and mount it
[12:31] <najib> nosredaekim, im new here so i  do not know
[12:32] <semistud2354> i tryed using rioutil...but that keeps saying it cant find it
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> najib: just search through adept-manager for "icons"
[12:33] <najib> hey does anybody know how to install icon themes?
[12:34] <najib> nosredaekim, ok where is that
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> the hunt is still on for a good usenet binary downloader
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> najib: wait, did you download an icon theme off the internet already?
[12:34] <najib> nosredaekim, yes
[12:35] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: There's BNR2
[12:35] <eagles0513875> j/w  the reason i could be getting slow download speeds ovra  2mb cable connection could it be due to a bad modem
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> najib: ah.. ok. so its a tar.gz file?
[12:35] <najib> nosredaekim, yes
[12:35] <Minataku> It used to give me trouble but that was back when I had bad GTK libs or something
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> najib: just a second
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> klibido doesn't suck TOO bad, but it's far from great.  BNR2 takes forever to initialize its db with more than a few groups subscribed...
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> though i like BNR2's functionality.
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> however, now that i'm not using giga, it might be a little faster...
[12:37] <najib> nosredaekim, ok
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> najib: read these instructions http://kde-artists.org/node/112
[12:39] <eagles0513875> how does one know when a cable modem is going bad
[12:40] <Daisuke_Ido> it stops working
[12:40] <bryan> lol
[12:40] <Daisuke_Ido> they generally don't gradually get slower
[12:40] <yourfriend> the inter-tubes are clogged with jelly
[12:40] <yourfriend> lol
[12:40] <bryan> yes they do sometimes
[12:40] <Minataku> KY Jelly, no doubt
[12:40] <Minataku> lol
[12:41] <yourfriend> lmao
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> I think the trucks are running out of gas
[12:41] <yourfriend> omg lol
[12:41] <Daisuke_Ido> bryan: i said "generally"
[12:41] <Minataku> eagles0513875: If there's smoke coming out of it
[12:41] <Minataku> It's probably going or already is bad
[12:41] <yourfriend> thats a sign
[12:41] <eagles0513875> no
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> you know there are shortages... and well the trucks can't keep up with you pirates
[12:41] <eagles0513875> im just getting really slow internet on a 2mbps connection
[12:41] <Minataku> eagles0513875: It's probably just network congestion
[12:41] <eagles0513875> doubt it
[12:42] <bryan> eagles0513875- what issue are you having?
[12:42] <eagles0513875> even during the day yesterday and today its been sluggish
[12:42] <eagles0513875> really slow speed
[12:42] <Minataku> If you already answered your own question, why are you asking us?
[12:42] <eagles0513875> 2mbps cable connection and im getting speeds of 56k
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> i'm getting really slow internet on 26K. beleive me..... you aren't getting slow internet
[12:42] <bryan> Have you reset
[12:42] <eagles0513875> how do i reset
[12:42] <eagles0513875> unplug it wait 30sec and then pulg it back in
[12:42] <Minataku> Best way is to unplug the cable modem for... yeah
[12:43] <bryan> Unplug modem for 15 sec. n reconnect
[12:43] <Minataku> The reset button doesn't typically reset everything
[12:43] <eagles0513875> there isnt one
[12:43] <eagles0513875> its one the cable company gave me
[12:43] <Minataku> Just unplug it for 30sec
[12:43] <eagles0513875> ok brb
[12:43] <bryan> Do you have a router with it?
[12:43] <yourfriend> eagles >> then check the cables on all of your connections as well while its down
[12:44] <yourfriend> hopefully he is not directly connected to the interweb. lol
[12:45] <eagles0513875> no i plug directly into the cable modem
[12:45] <eagles0513875> btw this is a european cable company
[12:45] <eagles0513875> i unplugged it and replugged it
[12:45] <Minataku> Bullcrap
[12:45] <eagles0513875> interweb??
[12:45] <Minataku> You never left
[12:45] <eagles0513875> oh
[12:45] <Minataku> You didn't unplug anything
[12:45] <eagles0513875> ya i did lol
[12:46] <yourfriend> eagles >> what?
[12:46] <Minataku> Probably unplugged something unrelated
[12:46] <Dragnslcr> He might have a proxy connection
[12:46] <Minataku> Like your printer
[12:46] <eagles0513875> one thing i did notice is that along the seabone that connects us to main land europe has huge packet lost
[12:46] <nathan> heya
[12:46] <yourfriend> eagles >> did you unplug your refridgerator
[12:46] <eagles0513875> i dont have a printer
[12:46] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:46] <eagles0513875> no where near my fridge
[12:46] <Minataku> [18:44:51]  eagles0513875 one thing i did notice is that along the seabone that connects us to main land europe has huge packet lost << Well there's your problem, damnit
[12:46] <yourfriend> eagles >> now place beer in mouth and count to 10 backwards
[12:46] <yourfriend> eagles >> Just kidding
[12:46] <Minataku> Once they fix that, expect better speeds
[12:46] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:47] <Minataku> Some dink probably stepped on a cable
[12:47] <eagles0513875> Minataku: i reported to the company that provides the seabone and i even reported it to my isp
[12:47] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> I hear there was a huge fishfight in the area.
[12:47] <Minataku> Well, now wait for them to fix it :P
[12:47] <UbuntuServerUser> I have a samba question. I'm following this guide (http://howtoforge.com/samba_domaincontroller_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p4?s=46e820405a536935a1b1047787c75c6a&) and its all for one HDD. I have /dev/hdb1 mounted on /srv, and thats where I want the files to be stored. What do I have to change in order for samba to write to /srv ???????
[12:47] <eagles0513875> stepped on it in the middle of the mediteranean sea
[12:48] <Minataku> Yes
[12:48] <eagles0513875> i was really looking forward to testing gutsy
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> UbuntuServerUser: where does the guide say to set it up to write to?
[12:49] <eagles0513875> that isnt possible or is it lol
[12:49] <Minataku> Sure it's possible, but don't use it for a desktop system
[12:49] <UbuntuServerUser> nosrednaekim, well its kind of confusing, it has [profiles]  in /home/samba/profiles
[12:49] <eagles0513875> ?
[12:49] <eagles0513875> what u mean min
[12:49] <Minataku> Gutsy is unstable
[12:49] <UbuntuServerUser> nosrednaekim it has [netlogon]  in /home/samba/netlogon
[12:49] <eagles0513875> that is the whole point
[12:50] <Minataku> Don't use it for a primary system
[12:50] <UbuntuServerUser> IDK even know what that does
[12:50] <eagles0513875> i want to help testing it
[12:50] <eagles0513875> and i have something that would help wifi really easy for alot of people
[12:50] <eagles0513875> that have broadcom cards
[12:50] <UbuntuServerUser> nosrednaekim what should I change?
[12:50] <Minataku> And what would that be, eagles0513875 ?
[12:50] <eagles0513875> hold on
[12:50] <eagles0513875> let me get the link out of my email
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> UbuntuServerUser: after you have it all set up,I think you set /srv as a mount point. I have not ever done Samba, so i really don't know
[12:51] <yourfriend> eagles >> would introduce wireless to the world!
[12:51] <yourfriend> lol
[12:52] <eagles0513875> in a way Minataku its a reversed engineerd wifi driver for broadcom cards
[12:52] <eagles0513875> broadcom hasnt take any action on em
[12:52] <eagles0513875> they took a windows driver deconstructed it
[12:52] <UbuntuServerUser> nosrednaekim, I have /srv as a mountpoint from my second HDD hdb1....soo how do I tell samba to use userprofiles space they have to write on /srv
[12:52] <eagles0513875> and rewrote it in c
[12:52] <Dragnslcr> eagles0513875- unless it's a stolen spec sheet, I doubt anything can help people with Broadcom chips
[12:52] <eagles0513875> i dont think it is
[12:52] <eagles0513875> cuz there was a petition that was going round
[12:52] <yourfriend> eagles >> that Win... word is not allowed in here.  Watch it buddy!
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> UbuntuServerUser:  don't know... go to #samba
[12:53] <yourfriend> lol
[12:53] <eagles0513875> i hate winblows
[12:53] <UbuntuServerUser> nosrednaekim :( nobody's in there or responding
[12:53] <yourfriend> DRM is a great upgrade feature!
[12:53] <yourfriend> and Internet exploder runs with 100% more spyware
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> and so is UAC
[12:53] <yourfriend> lame!
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> UbuntuServerUser: try #ubuntu
[12:53] <eagles0513875> and i dont think that they r going to take any action cuz they took that off of broadcoms hands
[12:53] <yourfriend> MS = Lame
[12:53] <nathan> hello there
[12:54] <eagles0513875> they dont have to wry bout  developing a linux driver
[12:54] <yourfriend> hey nathan
[12:54] <yourfriend> whats up?
[12:54] <eagles0513875> yourfriend google if4linux
[12:54] <nathan> ermm few questions, absolutely no idea if ya can help lol
[12:54] <eagles0513875> ask away natahn
[12:54] <Arwen> see, it's all the pointless MS bashing that makes people think F/OSS is a cult
[12:54] <PG> are some girls here
[12:54] <Arwen> PG, there are no girls on teh interwebs...
[12:54] <nathan> firstly - got an ATI card in this comp, and as far as me mate says its already installed
[12:54] <Arwen> that said, there is #ubuntu-women for "women"
[12:54] <UbuntuServerUser> thanks nosrednaekim for your help
[12:55] <yourfriend> PG >> this is not a sexy chatroom
[12:55] <Arwen> ^^
[12:55] <eagles0513875> u mean open gl is already installed
[12:55] <yourfriend> PG >> although we all wish it was
[12:55] <yourfriend> lol
[12:55] <nathan> (comes up as ATI in the monitor and displays
[12:55] <PG> hahaha
[12:55] <eagles0513875> what kind of card is it
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> UbuntuServerUser: I really didn't do nothing
[12:55] <Arwen> nathan, go rip it out, sell it, and buy an NVIDIA one
[12:55] <nathan> on this screen its absolutely fine
[12:55] <nathan> ATI X300
[12:55] <PG> i does think about that ;)
[12:55] <yourfriend> Arwen is right girls are smarter than to use the internet
[12:55] <Arwen> yep :-)
[12:55] <eagles0513875> ok i have something ull have to do to get ur open gl to work
[12:55] <nathan> however, on projector (which is S-vid) the screens stupid
[12:55] <yourfriend> jk
[12:55] <eagles0513875> and here is that link yourfriend
[12:55] <eagles0513875> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=home
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> oh... thats old
[12:56] <nathan> kinda same thing as when you set your resolution higher than the monitor can handle
[12:56] <eagles0513875> do u want me to give u alink on how to enable open gl
[12:56] <PG> how do i use the strong fglrx with beryl
[12:56] <yourfriend> eagles >> I see
[12:56] <PG> does it work
[12:56] <nathan> nosrednaekim its webbserver btw lol i had to format again
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ah.. ok
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> why?
[12:56] <eagles0513875> nosrednaekim: how come they havent implemented it into the distro
[12:56] <nathan> i followed some instructions, restarted and it went to a black screen with a flashing underscore lol
[12:56] <PG> i use the normal xorg with beryl and its work perfecktly
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> eagles0513875: they have
[12:57] <eagles0513875> they how come my broadcom 4306 card doesnt work out of box in feisty
[12:57] <eagles0513875> u using feisty nathan
[12:57] <Arwen> PG, fglrx is anything but strong...
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> eagles0513875: because it doesn't support all cards yet
[12:57] <Minataku> Stupid ass KDE apps, I have kdelibs installed, it's not my fault your dumbass configure script is too stupid to find them
[12:57] <nathan> ermm dont know?
[12:57] <eagles0513875> mine is supported
[12:57] <Arwen> anyway, you need !xgl to use beryl (which is dead, obsolete, and buggy) on fglrx
[12:57] <yourfriend> have a good 1 guys
[12:57] <Arwen> PG, ^^
[12:57] <yourfriend> gotta run
[12:57] <yourfriend> later
[12:57] <eagles0513875> later
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> nathan: "uname -a"
[12:58] <nathan> in konsole as a guess
[12:58] <eagles0513875> well the link im goign ot give u nathan is one for edgy but its teh exact same steps in feisty
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> nathan: indeed... its your best freind after google
[12:58] <PG> i had a mac osx tiger version on my amd dektop pc but it isn so good as feisty fawn
[12:58] <PG> i love feisty fawn its one of the best os
[12:58] <nathan> nathan@nathan:~$ uname -a
[12:58] <nathan> Linux nathan 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 06:17:24 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:58] <nathan> nathan@nathan:~
[12:58] <PG> better than mac
[12:58] <Minataku> Linux Piyoko 2.6.20-Pyocola-i686 #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 14 22:42:51 EST 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[12:58] <Minataku> Mine's better
[12:58] <Minataku> :3
[12:58] <nathan> lol
[12:58] <eagles0513875> yay another 64 bit user
[12:58] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:59] <nathan> lol of course :)
[12:59] <eagles0513875> woot
[12:59] <eagles0513875> i have to say best 64bit distro out there
[12:59] <nathan> this is my server im settin up.. lol my normal pcs only 32 bit :\
[12:59] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:59] <nathan> what ya mean eagles ol
[12:59] <eagles0513875> this is mylaptop and my desktop pc is 64bit as well
[12:59] <nathan> lol
[12:59] <Minataku> Heh, x64... those extra 32bits are just a headache
[12:59] <eagles0513875> better than xp x64
[12:59] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:00] <UbuntuServerUser> I have a samba question. I'm following this guide (http://howtoforge.com/samba_domaincontroller_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p4?s=46e820405a536935a1b1047787c75c6a&) and its all for one HDD. I have /dev/hdb1 mounted on /srv, and thats where I want the files to be stored. What do I have to change in order for samba and its users to write to /srv ???????
[01:00] <nathan> iv fell out with XP
[01:00] <PG> 32 and 64 is the same thing
[01:00] <eagles0513875> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide  try that nathan
[01:00] <Minataku> No it's not
[01:00] <eagles0513875> 64 bit in my opinion is like intels hyperthreading
[01:00] <eagles0513875> allows for better performance
[01:00] <nathan> fell out with it that much, i bought a brand new HDD to put linux on cause i dont wanna write it over what was once shit
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> I just installed the i386 version this week. The number of apps that don't have amd64 versions yet got slightly annoying
[01:00] <PG> no but what for advantages you have
[01:00] <PG> with 64
[01:00] <eagles0513875> did u see thte link nathan
[01:01] <Minataku> Even if you have a 64bit chip, use a 32bit OS
[01:01] <eagles0513875> good for video editing and 3danimation
[01:01] <eagles0513875> y
[01:01] <nathan> yeah but as i said, me mate says my GFX card is already installed
[01:01] <Minataku> There's no point to 64bit yet except in specialized applications
[01:01] <PG> ohh come on
[01:01] <Dragnslcr> PG- 64-bit processors can handle a lot more memory
[01:01] <eagles0513875> that doesnt mean anything
[01:01] <eagles0513875> nathan
[01:01] <Arwen> nathan, "me mate"? and, like I said, go buy an NVIDIA.
[01:01] <nathan> lmao
[01:01] <Minataku> And considering 4GB is far more than any common desktop needs
[01:01] <nathan> its true, linux people are very nvidia lol
[01:01] <Minataku> The "moar memoary" argument is moot
[01:01] <eagles0513875> im considering8gb pc4000 on my desktop lol
[01:02] <PG> with a big ram and the newest graphicscard you bel able to do it same as 64 bit or a lot better
[01:02] <eagles0513875> nathan ati doesnt have good support for newer cards go through that dude
[01:02] <eagles0513875> u wont regret it
[01:02] <Dragnslcr> I didn't say anyone needed that much memory right now, I was just pointing it out for informational purposes
[01:02] <Minataku> ATI is utter crap
[01:02] <eagles0513875> agreed
[01:02] <PG> nvidia is big shit
[01:02] <eagles0513875> in my desktop i have a pci-e 6600gt by evga
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> nathan: so did you go to that link that eagles gave you?
[01:03] <PG> i use ati and its very goooooooooooooooooooooooooood
[01:03] <TeraDyne> !ohmy | PG
[01:03] <ubotu> PG: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:03] <nathan> yeah i hvae the link
[01:03] <Arwen> PG, you FAIL
[01:03] <eagles0513875> PG: only when it comes to having a winblows machine
[01:03] <Minataku> AMD _may_ turn them around, who knows, but right now they're useless and I don't predict them making any waves in any close amount of time
[01:03] <eagles0513875> nathan email it to urself so u dont lose it
[01:03] <Dragnslcr> PG- you mean you found non-beta drivers?
[01:03] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:03] <eagles0513875> i had no choice not to mention what is worse mine is integrated
[01:04] <Dragnslcr> I had an ATI card with Win2k for a year and they never managed to get the drivers out of beta
[01:04] <PG> ach ihr habt doch keine ahnung
[01:04] <eagles0513875> i love intel and nvidia
[01:04] <nathan> so u want me to go through it, despite kubuntu already stating my graphics card is ATI Radeon (fglrx)
[01:04] <PG> labern da die grte scheie
[01:04] <eagles0513875> nathan open up a shell and do this
[01:04] <clintc_laptop> nvidia has a better history of supporting linux, ati and nvidia are more similar now than in the past, but I still like supporting nvidia for being there for us longer
[01:04] <TeraDyne> PG, keep it english here.
[01:04] <PG> ta chifscha
[01:04] <justyb> Hello
[01:04] <eagles0513875> type in glxinfo and if it says that direct rendering is indirect go through that link i gave u
[01:04] <PG> hahah did you cant speak german
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> I have an inegrated ATI, which is ONLY supported by the Fglrx
[01:05] <Minataku> PG: And keep it clean even in German, too
[01:05] <eagles0513875> nosrednaekim: that link will help u to get open gl to work
[01:05] <kouji> hello, I want to remove the folder that contains konversation settings....where is it located?
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> eagles0513875: Oh I have everything working
[01:05] <PG> hahah und dann kommt der noch mit dem prog hier rein
[01:05] <eagles0513875> ok
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> kouji: .kde somewhere.
[01:05] <eagles0513875> !language
[01:05] <Arwen> w00t, Microsoft mice rule!
[01:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:05] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:05] <PG> was fr eine ironie
[01:05] <Minataku> !ops
[01:05] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[01:05] <Minataku> Someone want to handle PG here?
[01:05] <Riddell> Minataku: hmm?
[01:06] <PriceChild> PG, english only in this channel.
[01:06] <eagles0513875> nathan what does it say
[01:06] <PG> its a frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lannnnnnnnnnnnnnnd
[01:06] <Minataku> I'm thinking he's just here to cause trouble
[01:06] <eagles0513875> do u ahve direct rendering or not
[01:06] <nixternal> slow down Riddell :)
[01:06] <Minataku> Thanks a bunch, Riddell
[01:06] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> thanks  Riddell
[01:06] <justyb> kouji: It should be located in ~/.kde/share/conhig
[01:06] <TeraDyne> Thanks Riddell
[01:06] <eagles0513875> nathan im out dude its 1am here
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> nixternal: what,you wanted the fun?
[01:07] <eagles0513875> and im beat got up early this am for nothing
[01:07] <nathan> direct rendering : yes
[01:07] <eagles0513875> then ignore the link then
[01:07] <nathan> ok
[01:07] <justyb> kouji: Sorry  ~/.kde/share/config
[01:07] <nixternal> nosrednaekim: JR is the quiet hacker type, and yes, maybe I wanted a little bit of that thunder :)
[01:07] <eagles0513875> ill give u a link to the website that i have once i get it up and running
[01:07] <eagles0513875> of simplified how to's
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> nathan: could yu pastebin the whole content of that command?
[01:07] <nathan> i think what i should do is juust buy a 50 montior port > RGB cable.. and have the better display anyway lol
[01:07] <kouji> yes I found it....now if I install konversation again will it be a clean install?
[01:07] <bryan> How would I knowif I installed my video card nvidia 7900gt correct?
[01:07] <eagles0513875> for kubuntu/ubuntu
[01:07] <eagles0513875> night u guys
[01:07] <nathan> not unless i wanna get kicked by some IRC bot? lol
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> nixternal: hehe.... can I be a mod?
[01:07] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:08] <eagles0513875> night
[01:08] <nixternal> dunno, can you?
[01:08] <bryan> kubuntu
[01:08] <eagles0513875> back
[01:08] <justyb> bryan: You can open a terminal and run glxinfo
[01:08] <nathan> lol
[01:08] <eagles0513875> .away
[01:08] <nathan> it wont kick me for posting it all in will it? cayse theres alot of stuff there
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> nathan: pastebin it.
[01:08] <eagles0513875> lol ya
[01:08] <Arwen> nathan, pastebin
[01:08] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[01:08] <Minataku> I'd vote for myself to be an op, but I'm way too edgy for the authorities around here
[01:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:08] <nathan> "pastebin"
[01:08] <Minataku> X3
[01:08] <Arwen> or we'll have to kline you
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[01:09] <eagles0513875> night
[01:09] <justyb> bryan: glxinfo | grep direct  to be exact
[01:09] <eagles0513875> for real this time lol
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: and who knows what that specially compiled IRC client can do...
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: kick the whole channel for insulting Gentoo?
[01:09] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27688/
[01:10] <Minataku> Nah, I could use chanserv for that
[01:10] <bryan> It says the verything is missing
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> nathan: looking at it.
[01:11] <justyb> bryan: That's a lot of missing
[01:11] <nathan> ko
[01:11] <mneptok> Minataku: not to mention voting for yourself is an almost instant "no" answer ;)
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok, and what you really want to do is view things on your projector?
[01:12] <voidmage> Does kde have a version of spider solitaire?
[01:12] <nathan> yeah generally speaking - which is through S-Vid
[01:12] <nathan> and as also stated it displays image but as if its too high a res so screen goes fuzzy and doubles up on itself (u kno the screen i mean)
[01:12] <Minataku> mneptok: Not my fault I'm "too hot for IRC"
[01:12] <Minataku> XD
[01:13] <justyb> bryan: What video card do you have?
[01:13] <nathan> nosred ill be right back, i just need to do a restart
[01:13] <bryan> nvidia 7900gt
[01:14] <justyb> bryan: I know silly Q, but are you running (k)ubuntu?  And which version?
[01:14] <bryan> kubuntu f 7.04
[01:15] <bryan> I'm trying ENVY but is not working
[01:15] <justyb> bryan: Check google for a package called envy
[01:15] <justyb> bryan: I see...
[01:15] <justyb> bryan: That helps to know that
[01:17] <nathan> im back
[01:17] <nathan> jus connected the S-vid cable back in again.
[01:17] <justyb> bryan: Which version of the envy script are you using?
[01:18] <nathan> when i pulled off that thing i put in the pastebucket, would i have needed the S-vid cable to be plugged in at the time?
[01:18] <justyb> Oh well.
[01:19] <nathan> nosrednaekim: still there?
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> yes
[01:19] <nathan> kl kl
[01:19] <nathan> did that come up red for u btw or black
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. it came up red
[01:20] <nathan> kl kl
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> and it gave me a little pop up.
[01:21] <nathan> aah
[01:21] <tikal> hi all
[01:21] <nathan> find any ideas via that paste?
[01:21] <nathan> and should i post another now projectors connected?
[01:21] <crusty> anyone know why I cant get any Amarok themes to work?
[01:21] <crusty> Is there a special trick I should know about?
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok, you attached your projector?
[01:22] <nathan> yeah
[01:22] <barzin1> anyone have experience with ankhSVN?
[01:22] <nathan> had to restart before it would give a display
[01:22] <justyb> crusty: Is there any output to indcate an error with the theme?
[01:23] <crusty> nope
[01:23] <crusty> it just says that "new fun stuff has been installed" and then nothing
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> nathan: you need the proprietary display driver in order to do TV-out
[01:24] <nathan> im guessing by that you mean S-Vid yeah?
[01:24] <crusty> hang on... is there a difference between Amarok FS and the one native in Kumbutu 7.04?
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> !find fglrx
[01:25] <ubotu> Found: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source
[01:25] <Arwen> !info fglrx-kernel-source
[01:25] <ubotu> fglrx-kernel-source: ATI binary kernel module source. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.34.8+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.28 (feisty), package size 212 kB, installed size 272 kB
[01:25] <justyb> crusty: It seems to be working on my install but I've never known that a option to get themes direct from kde-look existed until now.
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> nathan: "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> run that
[01:26] <nathan> ok
[01:26] <nathan> u gonna be here for long (dont wanna guess half way through and kill the system again lmao)
[01:27] <nathan> couldnt find package
[01:27] <justyb> crusty: Yeah they are two different things
[01:27] <nathan> sudo apt-get update?
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> nathan: lol... yeah I will
[01:27] <justyb> crusty: two different theme stuff too.
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> nathan: what happened last time?
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> nathan: yeah.
[01:28] <nathan> dont know, i tried folloiwng a webpage i'd been left with
[01:28] <nathan> hey im learning see :P lol
[01:28] <DrX> when I setup Thunderbird with LDAP I get no results back and I tried every permutation of 3 articles from MozillaZine and verified the server OUs -- anyone know how to troubleshoot this?
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> yep.
[01:28] <nathan> when i finished i restarted and it wouldnt load linux
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> :)
[01:28] <nathan> hmm already updated did i spell right
[01:28] <nathan> E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fgirx
[01:28] <nathan> aaah
[01:28] <nathan> glr
[01:28] <nathan> im an idiot
[01:29] <nathan> ok installing
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> hahaha
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> did THAT again?
[01:29] <nathan> lol weird i usually av a crap memory too.. and yep i did lmao
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> heh
[01:29] <nathan> i figured it out this time tho lol
[01:29] <justyb> DrX: Woha, there are about a million different things it could be.
[01:29] <nathan> ok thats finished nosred
[01:29] <crusty> justyb: ok thanks.. I'll se if I cant get a hold of something that can be skinned =)
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok run this command "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:30] <justyb> crusty: No problem.  :)
[01:30] <nathan> opened
[01:30] <justyb> DrX: What page did you get your directions from?
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> ok, go to Section "Device"
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> you see where it says "ati"?
[01:31] <nathan> found it
[01:32] <nathan> Section "Device"
[01:32] <nathan> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] "
[01:32] <nathan> 	Driver		"ati"
[01:32] <nathan> 	BusID		"PCI:5:0:0"
[01:32] <nathan> EndSection
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> change that ati to fglrx, leaving it quotes
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> like Driver "fglrx"
[01:32] <Arwen> and at the end, add
[01:32] <Arwen> Section "Extensions"
[01:32] <Arwen> Option "Composite" "false"
[01:32] <Arwen> EndSection
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> nathan: Arwen means at the end of the FILE
[01:33] <Arwen> ^^
[01:33] <Arwen> what he said
[01:33] <nathan> yeah figured
[01:33] <nathan> ok done that
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> nathan: now, back to the Device section
[01:33] <nathan> i did that last bit last time - i never modified driver thing tho
[01:33] <nathan> in this text file yeah?
[01:33] <nathan> section device
[01:34] <nathan> Section "Device"
[01:34] <nathan> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] "
[01:34] <nathan> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[01:34] <nathan> 	BusID		"PCI:5:0:0"
[01:34] <nathan> EndSection
[01:34] <Arwen> yes, that looks fine (PCI:5? lol)
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> put this is that section, right below the busID -> Option  "ForceMonitors" "lvds,tv"
[01:34] <Arwen> how do you know he's not using VGA? in which case it would be crt1,tv
[01:35] <nathan> Option  "ForceMonitors" "lvds,tv"
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: he said S-video
[01:35] <Arwen> hmm
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> oh... right
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> worry
[01:35] <nathan> guessing thats not right
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> nathan: this is a laptop right?
[01:35] <nathan> btw would like it to work with monitor aswell jus so you know ;) lol
[01:35] <Arwen> nathan, well, are you using DVI or VGA output for your monitor? or is a laptop?
[01:35] <nathan> no
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> lol
[01:35] <nathan> this is a server PC.. big block lol
[01:35] <Arwen> and heh, an X300? that's a shitty card
[01:35] <nathan> yer it is llo
[01:36] <Arwen> :-P
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> ok, change that lvds to crt1
[01:36] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, wait, when'd we confirm it was VGA? it could also tpms1 or something
[01:36] <nathan> Section "Device"
[01:36] <nathan> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] "
[01:36] <nathan> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[01:36] <nathan> 	BusID		"PCI:5:0:0"
[01:36] <nathan> Option  "ForceMonitors" "crtl,tv"
[01:36] <nathan> EndSection
[01:36] <Arwen> tmds*
[01:36] <DrX> justyb:  www.cc.isel.ipl.pt/Pessoais/LusSousa/knowledge/mozilla_ad/ and forums.msexchange.org/m_30659100/tm.htm and www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/specs/ldap.html
[01:36] <Arwen> nathan, don't paste to the channel..
[01:36] <nathan> the above look right?
[01:36] <nathan> sorry
[01:37] <mo0osah> !pastebin | nathan
[01:37] <ubotu> nathan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> nathan: crt1 as is "one"
[01:37] <DrX> justyb: and kb.mozillazine.org/LDAP_access_via_Address_Book
[01:37] <nathan> nosred you lost me there
[01:37] <nathan> aha you mean no ,tv
[01:37] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, but if he uses DVI, it would be tmds
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> nathan: not crt "L" crt "1" ans in the number one
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> *as
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> nathan: no, keep the tv
[01:38] <nathan> aah crt1 im with ya
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> nathan: it is a VGA monitor right?
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> not DVI?
[01:38] <nathan> mm DVI is the big one aint it
[01:38] <Arwen> DVI is usually white colored
[01:39] <Arwen> VGA is usually blue colored
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> the big white one
[01:39] <nathan> VGA the one like a mouse port but more pins lol
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> no... thats s-video
[01:39] <Arwen> ^^
[01:39] <nathan> i mean old style mouses lmao
[01:39] <nathan> 1 sec
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> ah... right..like a serial port
[01:39] <Arwen> yes, old style mice with the PS/2 ports? the round ones? that's svideo
[01:39] <nathan> yeah
[01:39] <Arwen> VGA is like serial
[01:40] <nathan> its vga
[01:40] <nathan> i google pic'd it
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> nathan: so its VGA?
[01:40] <nathan> yeah
[01:40] <Arwen> ok, crt1 it is
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> ok... paste that section again.
[01:40] <nathan> in a pastebin this time ;) lol
[01:40] <dewey> good day mates
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> yeah..actually pastebin the whole file
[01:40] <dewey> gutsy-gibbon 2 would not boot for me?
[01:41] <justyb> DrX: What error are you getting?
[01:41] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27690/
[01:41] <nathan> ok ill amend and pastebin the lot
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> I think those kinda things go over to #kubuntu-devel
[01:41] <dewey> justyb: no error it stops in middle of boot.
[01:41] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27691/
[01:42] <justyb> dewey: ???
[01:42] <DrX> justyb:  no error, just no results.  supposed to be able to enter something in the (advanced) search box & get results.
[01:43] <justyb> DrX: And you are sure that there is information in the directory?
[01:43] <Arwen> !icecast
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <Arwen> ...
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> nathan: tab that Option force monitors in to be even with the other options.
[01:43] <CliffJumper> So I have a couple of packages which I've source compiled and "dpkg -i"-ed, and adept has them marked as upgradeable, even though the version numbers are exactly the same... what gives?
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> and nathantab the "option composite false" in as well
[01:44] <nathan> ok
[01:44] <Arwen> CliffJumper, apt prefers non-local packages
[01:44] <Arwen> add a prefix to them
[01:44] <Arwen> (and for the record, use the "dpkg-buildpackage" command, it's good)
[01:44] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27692/
[01:44] <Arwen> oh yeah, s/prefix/suffix
[01:44] <Arwen> prefixes are bad
[01:45] <CliffJumper> Arwen: that's what i used to compile them and create the deb; how do I add a suffix?
[01:45] <justyb> Aw smack...  Got to go.  Got to start cooking dinner or the whole family is going to kill me.
[01:45] <DrX> yes.  i can see the information on the server AND from another client running a different email client
[01:45] <Arwen> CliffJumper, edit the changelog file and add a new version
[01:45] <Arwen> making it a higher one than the previous
[01:45] <CliffJumper> Arwen: Thanks!
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> nathan: and the Option Composite False at the end too.... tab that in.
[01:45] <justyb> DrX: Sorry I've got to go.
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> i'm not sure is it matters... but we don't want totake chances
[01:46] <justyb> DrX: Hope things work out.
[01:46] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27694/
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> Great!
[01:47] <nathan> ko, that look good now yeah?
[01:47] <sooti> hello, where can I download the oxygen iconset
[01:47] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, wait, don't we need specific settings for the TV?
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> now, if the X server crashes in the next step we do, log in from the command line, and change that file back to the way it was before with "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: we do that with aticonfigure I believe
[01:47] <Tm_T> sooti: sure you can, BUT it won't help you much I afraid
[01:47] <Arwen> hmm
[01:48] <nathan> eh lol
[01:48] <Tm_T> sooti: because icon naming has changed from KDE3 to KDE4
[01:48] <sooti> ahh... I see
[01:48] <nathan> lmao... gonna b fun tryin 2 do the TV card .. lmfao but thats a differnet matter
[01:49] <Arwen> !u | nathan
[01:49] <ubotu> nathan: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[01:49] <Arwen> just a thought
[01:49] <Arwen> (I'm just kidding)
[01:49] <nathan> lol
[01:49] <nathan> laugh out loud even
[01:49] <Arwen> :-P
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> nathan: log out, and in KDM select "restart x server", its in one of the menus.
[01:49] <Arwen> (/me would go watch a movie, but shoutcast is so fun)
[01:50] <sooti> A bot trying to reinforce english grammar in an internet chatroom.....that's amusing
[01:50] <nathan> eh do i have to acutally logout to restart x-server
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> haha
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> nathan: yes
[01:50] <nathan> cause i got log out, hibernate, restart or turn off
[01:50] <nathan> so log out, THEN i get restart X-server
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> just log out.
[01:50] <Arwen> nathan, well, no, but restarting it will kill your session anyway
[01:50] <Arwen> hit "ctrl+alt+backspace"
[01:50] <nathan> what haps if x-server crashes lol
[01:51] <nathan> cause i cant get back on here if it dont load
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> nathan: you'll get sent to the command line
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> you log in there, and do that nano command I said
[01:51] <Arwen> ^^
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> then reboot
[01:51] <nathan> got a msn addy i can add ya on my other comp incase it goes dead?
[01:51] <Arwen> you know, there's plenty of IRC clients available, I'm sure you'll manage
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> go to www.meemo.com and you can log onto IRC from there
[01:51] <Arwen> in fact, you can use IRC from the command line (with irssi)
[01:52] <nathan> i got Mirc ono ther comp but cudn get it to connect to server
[01:52] <ardchoille> I use irssi and I think it's awesome.
[01:52] <nathan> whats line i use on command line if it fails
[01:52] <nathan> o yer i  should probably save xorg.conf before i try restart lmao
[01:53] <nathan> would help
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> " sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change it back to what it was before
[01:53] <nathan> so delete the extra lines and put driver back to ATI right
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[01:54] <nathan> lemme write that line and ill give it a try
[01:54] <Arwen> make sure you do "nano -w" or the file will be garbled once you save it
[01:55] <nathan> eh
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: waa?
[01:55] <Arwen> yes, -w means no linebreaks
[01:55] <Arwen> without it, if you have a line longer than the screen, it'll get split
[01:55] <ardchoille> -w disables wrapping of long lines
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> ah!
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> ok
[01:56] <nathan> so would i put sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf -w
[01:56] <ardchoille> Which should be the default behaviour, IMHO
[01:56] <Arwen> -w before the filename is a better idea
[01:56] <Arwen> ardchoille, yeah...
[01:56] <nathan> sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[01:57] <nathan> ok
[01:57] <nathan> wish me luck! lmao
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[01:59] <intelikey> is this a real url or a link in a page ?   https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ ???
[01:59] <Arwen> real URL
[01:59] <Arwen> many companies host files on akamai to keep stress off their servers
[01:59] <Arwen> MS does it tooo
[02:00] <Arwen> oh wait, that's not a real URL, it's mangled
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: what do you want those drivers for?
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> uhhh...oh... our good freind nathan is taking a while.
[02:01] <CliffJumper> nosrednaekim: is he a *fiend*?
[02:01] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, yeah, lol
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> oh ... I always spell that wrong..
[02:02] <CliffJumper> nosrednaekim: I like when I misspell it and it makes a different, legitimate word
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> friend
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> yay! it worked!
[02:03] <intelikey> -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 61.773 seconds  <<< few hours from now i'll answer.
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: gotta love that dial-up
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> who says?
[02:04] <Arwen> lol
[02:05] <intelikey> na   i don't have too       :)
[02:05] <CliffJumper> So, before *buntu, what didstros did you use?
[02:05] <webbhost> phew
[02:05] <raymond> what is the command to reconfigure xorg?
[02:06] <nalioth> raymond: /msg ubotu fixres
[02:06] <Arwen> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:06] <MrKimm> Can anyone tell me how to change screenresolution in KDE? (as in... where is the tool)
[02:06] <webbhost> nosred
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> ah.
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> hello
[02:06] <webbhost> crashed
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> my fiend
[02:06] <hitmanWilly> CliffJumper: slack mainly
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> suse, slackware
[02:06] <MrKimm> CliffJumper, Fedora Core before Ubuntu :)
[02:06] <webbhost> im in failsafe mode, and ive changed it back
[02:06] <webbhost> but how do ya save the file lmao
[02:06] <webbhost> (nathan)
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> webbhost: in nano?
[02:06] <hitmanWilly> CliffJumper: tho i am still using gentoo on my desktop
[02:06] <webbhost> yeah
[02:07] <webbhost> is it CTRL - O (WriteOut) ?
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> Ctrl+x
[02:07] <CliffJumper> Gentoo for me, too
[02:07] <webbhost> exit?
[02:07] <webbhost> guessin it asks if i want to save
[02:07] <raymond> no not to fix the resolution. i just loaded the ati drivers and i want x to use them
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> yeah, exiting works
[02:08] <webbhost> ok its wrote
[02:08] <webbhost> ill give it a hard reset, see if it loads
[02:08] <intelikey> heh my network transfer speed is a four digit number, unfortunately it's in bytes and the first digit is one...
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> webbhost: edit it again and make sure its fine
[02:08] <webbhost> ok
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> 26K here baby!
[02:09] <webbhost> driver ATI, bottom lines are gone
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> great.
[02:09] <raymond> !xorg
[02:09] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> ok,ctrl+alt+del
[02:09] <webbhost> i reckon it could be those last 3 lines nos
[02:09] <webbhost> cause i changed them last time and it did the same
[02:09] <MrKimm> Can real noone tell me how to change screen-resolution? It shouldnt take more than a few secunds...
[02:09] <webbhost> except last time i dint know how to put it back lmao
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> webbhost: hmmm... I don't know what could do it... we can check once you are back in X.
[02:10] <webbhost> woo its back in
[02:10] <webbhost> phew lol
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> webbhost: good.
[02:11] <webbhost> me heart sunk when it went dead lol
[02:11] <webbhost> i was like ... no way
[02:11] <webbhost> lol
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> ok now pastebin this file " /var/log/Xorg.1.log"
[02:11] <nathan> lo again
[02:11] <MrKimm> ok.... seemed to be able to figure it out after setting it to "Windows" behaviour...
[02:11] <nathan> ok should i try changing the "driver" to ATI, and restarting X-server with that alone?
[02:12] <ghsry5w56uwy6> Can anyone tell me how to install Kubuntu 7.0.4  with nvida drivers.  I can only fin how to enable drivers after install
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> nathan: pastebin the last 200 lines or so of /var/log/Xorg.1.log
[02:12] <nathan> ok
[02:12] <nathan> mm i go sudo nano /var/log/Xorg.1.log right
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> no " cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log"
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> that'll be easier
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> no need for sudo either... you aren't editing it.
[02:13] <crusty> can someone recommend a good mp3 player for Kumbuntu that isnt Amarok?
[02:13] <intelikey> ghsry5w56uwy6 install with the "alternative" text based installer
[02:13] <nathan> nathan@nathan:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log
[02:13] <nathan> cat: /var/log/Xorg.1.log: No such file or directory
[02:13] <hitmanWilly> crusty: kmplayer
[02:13] <MrKimm> crusty, Noatun is good :)
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> crusty: exaile
[02:13] <crusty> will try them all :p thanks =)
[02:13] <kilrae> does xmms still exist?
[02:13] <ardchoille> crusty: I use xmms and I love it
[02:14] <MrKimm> crusty, Noatun can be made to look like Winamp amoung other things :)
[02:14] <hitmanWilly> crusty: or VLC (from the web, not the repos)
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> nathan: hmm..
[02:14] <nathan> could always take a look in the folder see what "is" in there
[02:14] <ghsry5w56uwy6> intelikey: do i need to download the alternative cd to do that?
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> nathan: well there is 0.log, but thats your current session
[02:14] <intelikey> ghsry5w56uwy6 yes.
[02:14] <MrKimm> Can anyone tell me why fonts look so much bigger in KDE than in GNOME/XFCE? I have to set them to size 8 to make them look like size 10
[02:15] <crusty> I have to say, as a former Windows user, that this ad and remove thing kicks ass!! no reboots or anything =)
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> nathan: go try to just switch out ATI for fglrx
[02:15] <nathan> think iv got it
[02:15] <ghsry5w56uwy6> thanks; that really sucks
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> what?
[02:15] <nathan> Xorg.0.log.old
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> crusty: indeed it does
[02:16] <ardchoille> crusty: Reboots are usually only for kernel upgrades.
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> nathan: pastebin it, we'll see
[02:16] <nathan> ok
[02:16] <kilrae> you know what i don't understand? companies (canadian ones anyway) can offer unlimited wired internet for about $40, and you can get unlimited streaming video and radio for $15 on your cell phone, but they charge you like 10 cents a kilobyte to check the weather
[02:16] <nathan> "pastebin"
[02:16] <hitmanWilly> kilrae: money making sccheme
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[02:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:16] <nathan> pfft silly bot
[02:16] <intelikey> crusty it's not that this add/remove is so good, it's just that the M$ way is abominable.
[02:16] <nathan> ty
[02:17] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27704/
[02:17] <ardchoille> nathan: Nah, the bot's fine, you're suffering from PEBCAK, lol
[02:17] <not-Timmay> anyone use GIMP?
[02:17] <ardchoille> I use gimp
[02:17] <nathan> lol
[02:17] <nathan> whats pebcak lmao
[02:17] <crusty> nevertheless, I am realy enjoying listening to music uniterupted and mucking about with everything without the entire computer going up into flames :)
[02:17] <ardchoille> Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard
[02:18] <nathan> lol crusty u just converted from XP or summat
[02:18] <crusty> yup!
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> nathan: something's wrong with the config file
[02:18] <nathan> lol what a guess
[02:18] <nathan> guessin you mean something was wrong (until we changed it back)
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> nathan: right
[02:19] <nathan> ok well shall i try change to "ati" driver and see if that loads first
[02:19] <nathan> (also it is ati all lower caps right?
[02:19] <kilrae> you sometimes need to restart
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> nathan: what are you using now?
[02:19] <hitmanWilly> nathan: looks like maybe somethings mispelled somewhere or commented where it shouldn't be
[02:19] <jarn> How do I have xinit run two commands?
[02:19] <ardchoille> kilrae: You mean reboot? Why?
[02:20] <MrKimm> Could anyone tell me why Tango looks like its missing colours in Konqueror? :S
[02:20] <nathan> you want me to pastebin curr xorg.conf?
[02:20] <kilrae> ardchoille: making changes to grub?
[02:20] <ardchoille> kilrae: Ah, yeah
[02:20] <kilrae> :P
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok... thats easy enough
[02:20] <nathan> mr kimm ya need more oranges lol
[02:20] <hitmanWilly> nathan: the one you tried to boot on previously
[02:20] <hitmanWilly> nathan: the one that generated that log
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: he edited that one unfortunately
[02:21] <nathan> mm ill av 2 look back in pastebins to find that
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm then
[02:21] <nathan> can find it in pastebins rnos
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> ah right... good idea
[02:21] <not-Timmay> ok so in GIMP I am opening an image and trying to add new text, but the text isn't the color I am choosing...how can I get it to be the color I want?
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27694/
[02:21] <nathan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27694/
[02:21] <nathan> lol beat me to it
[02:22] <nathan> hmm
[02:22] <nathan> jjust had a thought
[02:22] <nathan> line 142, im still missing a tab aint i?
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> no.
[02:23] <nathan> I dont need a tab between the "composite" and "false" then
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> but it doesn't like line 142
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> no
[02:23] <nathan> that log say it dint like it?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> yeah. it said there was a parsing error on line 142
[02:23] <nathan> o ye
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> do you want 3d acceleration?
[02:24] <nathan> genearlly speaking yeah cause i got a radio flight sim
[02:24] <nathan> but will have to do that via some form of emulator i think
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[02:24] <nathan> i doubt theres a linux version for it
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> nathan: which radio flight emulator?
[02:24] <nathan> realflight G3
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> nathan: sweet... wish I had that.
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> i'm a RC plane guy too
[02:25] <nathan> cool man lol
[02:25] <nathan> Helicopters here lol but its all good ai
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> thats one linux app i've never found.. there is flightgear tho... TAHT is nice
[02:25] <nathan> i like the planes just as much :P just not brave enough to try building one lol
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> haha
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> anyway... lemme see whats with that line 142
[02:26] <nathan> ok
[02:26] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: that's just the end of the file
[02:26] <bob_> i just installed the feisty 32 bit and wanted to know should i add an antivirus program
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> 143 is the end of the file..
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> bob_: nope.. no need
[02:27] <bob_> ok just checking
[02:27] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: the console calls the first line 0, not one like the pastebin
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> unzip has me peeved.  i want to take a group of archives and extract into subdirectories based on the archive filename.  easy enough from konqueror (using ark's integration), but i can't for the life of me figure out how to do it with unzip
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> AH!
[02:27] <not-Timmay> ok so in GIMP I am opening an image and trying to add new text, but the text isn't the color I am choosing...how can I get it to be the color I want?
[02:27] <bob_> came from windows 98 so just wanted to make sure
[02:27] <nathan> so we may be 1 line off?
[02:28] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: im going through it looking for missing close ", etc
[02:28] <bob_> have a nice evening
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> ah right.
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> bob_: you have just taken about 100 steps up OS Evolution ladder.
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i would like to be the first to say congratulations
[02:28] <bob_> thank you
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> I would like to be first... but I can't ;)
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> you can be second, and two is higher than one! </grade school logic>
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: I don't see anything wrong.
[02:30] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: nah, im not seeing anything either...
[02:30] <nathan> nosrednaekim: what happens if we dont add htose lines at bottom?
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: you forgot to enter grade school logic... or have you been using it ever since I came in here?
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm, i suppose i could attempt to write a shell script to do what i want with unzip...
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> nathan: i'm not sure. I think 3d acceration just doesn't work.
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: whoops :)
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:30] <nathan> :( lol
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i have exactly *no* experience writing shell scripts...
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> nathan: but thats only temporary.
[02:31] <jhutchins> not-Timmay: You have to use teh color chooser to set foreground/background colors for the current operation.
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> it may have a jacked EOF marker or something
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> time to learn by doing :D
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: maybe we should just replace it with mine?
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: how close is it?
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> everything but the screen and the busID
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> resolutions I mean
[02:32] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: ok, that's easily fixed
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> right... working on it.
[02:32] <nathan> how  ome it be temporary?
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> back in a minute...bio break
[02:34] <trakinas> has anyone here ever ran any 3d app with SiS boards?
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> nathan: we're fixing it to be permanat
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: fugettaboutit
[02:35] <nathan> you work for linux then?
[02:35] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: heeheheh. i kind of tried it again, knowing it will never work just for the sake of "i cannot be beaten by a non-living creature""
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> haha
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> nathan: no. we;re fixing your xorg config file
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> and erase everything in there.
[02:37] <nathan> ooh lol
[02:37] <nathan> ok
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> then go here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27707/plain/
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> and put all that text in the file
[02:37] <_gtt_> anyone have problems with k3b recognizing media changes?
[02:38] <_gtt_> (swapping disks and it doesn't even know i've opened the tray)
[02:39] <nathan> nosred is it possible to save xorg.conf current as xorg.conf.backup, then save new
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> nathan: good idea... yeah, do that
[02:39] <nathan> so if new one dont work, can delete .conf and rename right?
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[02:40] <trakinas> _gtt_: i got problems with the kernel and my dvd drive. does it makes you feel better?
[02:41] <nathan> whats command again, i losti t
[02:41] <nathan> nah i got it
[02:41] <nathan> ok saved
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> ok
[02:42] <yurimxpxman> with inkscape, is there any way to make a certain portion of an image transparent throughout all of the layers in that area?
[02:42] <webbhost> ok going to speak on here whilst i restart X-server
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> yurimxpxman: #inkscape
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok,
[02:42] <webbhost> ooh
[02:42] <webbhost> looking good
[02:43] <webbhost> o wait
[02:43] <webbhost> would help if i dint just "log off"..
[02:43] <webbhost> im a tit
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> don't hard restart if it fails
[02:43] <webbhost> ok i wont
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> indeed
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> you don't have to restart the computer
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> just press ctrl+alt+del on the login screen
[02:44] <webbhost> loaded back up believe it or not
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm...  bleh.
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> and that will restart the x server which is all that matters
[02:44] <webbhost> i pressed restart X-server and it went black then went to login screen
[02:44] <webbhost> so i logged in again
[02:44] <webbhost> ooh
[02:44] <webbhost> and projector works!
[02:44] <webbhost> neat
[02:44] <webbhost> you truly are a god
[02:44] <webbhost> lol
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> no i'm not
[02:45] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: ctrl-alt-bksp
[02:45] <webbhost> well ya ent no but it sounded good at the time lol
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> haha... oh man./.. its getting late here
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm just a man.  a man with the powers of a god, but a man nonetheless.
[02:45] <nathan> just need to turn me res down no so it fits all in the screen llo
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> nathan: oh... well...
[02:46] <nathan> lol
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> I have NO CLUE how to do that stuff
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> I think it has to be the same res for both monitors.
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> not sure on that.
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> you can go into system settings-> display and change the res.
[02:47] <nathan> woo
[02:47] <rixxon> The quality of video and audio sucks in kubuntu compared to my previous archlinux installation, am I missing something?
[02:48] <nathan> all i need to do now is install the eqivilent of powerDVD and im ready! lol
[02:48] <rixxon> I doubt it is the codecs or applications, I have tried mplayer too
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> rixxon: dunno, drivers?
[02:48] <rixxon> Possibly?
[02:48] <nathan> i changed res on both btw nos lol this is how i had it on XP anyway
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok, cool
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> !dvd | nathan
[02:49] <ubotu> nathan: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:49] <nathan> nosrednaekim: got any recommended ... you beat me to it lol
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:50] <nathan> luckil adept is one of the things i DO know how to use ll
[02:51] <not-Timmay> does anyone use GIMP?
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> #gimp
[02:51] <not-Timmay> no one is talking in there
[02:52] <Daisuke_Ido> must avoid ball-gag and gimp suit jokes...
[02:52] <Daisuke_Ido> nope, couldn't do it.
[02:52] <hitmanWilly> XD
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok, laterz I have to run
[02:53] <hitmanWilly> maybe they're all in their boxes?
[02:53] <nathan> laterz nosred, again thanks a million for your help, much appreciated mate
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> see ya around
[02:53] <nathan> yup :)
[02:53] <rixxon> nosrednaekim: how do I check what drivers I use
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> come back if you have any problems... i'm ussually on
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> rixxon: glxconfig
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> sorry, glxinfo
[02:55] <mneptok> Misssster Aaaaanderson
[02:56] <bob_> i have a tiger jet network modem installed but not working and needed to know if driver is issue or modem will not work
[02:56] <rixxon> nosrednaekim: kinda cryptic
[02:56] <roho> i'm using konqueror. up until yesterday, flash worked fine everywhere. now, it only works in a couple places. notably, i can't use youtube at all. i reinstalled all flash-related packages and it still doesn't work.  anyone have an idea as to what i should do next?
[02:58] <roho> anyone?
[02:58] <hitmanWilly> roho: youtube uses java as well, correct? maybe reinstall that...
[02:59] <roho> weird.
[02:59] <roho> alright
[03:00] <roho> i haven't changed anything
[03:00] <roho> everything worked fine
[03:01] <Schuenemann> which program can I use for inserting subtitles in an AVI file?
[03:01] <not-Timmay> how come (in GIMP) when i open an image and try to use the text tool it doesn't use the color I selected it uses an old color?
[03:04] <trakinas> not-Timmay: it has a separated color for the text
[03:04] <trakinas> see the text tool dialog
[03:04] <dewey> good day mates
[03:05] <dewey> I am here via gutsy-gibbon2
[03:06] <not-Timmay> trakinas: right i have selected an orange-redish color in the text tool section, the FG and BG and it shows up as grey
[03:06] <sparr> how can i avoid clamav upgrade warnings in my cron output?  without updating clamav more often than packaging allows
[03:08] <not-Timmay> i chose blue, red, yellow and green and every time i try to type text it shows up grey
[03:08] <trakinas> not-Timmay: send a screen shot of your tools to me.
[03:08] <trakinas> put it in imageshack.us
[03:08] <trakinas> and i will see what i can do. if i cant help, #gimp
[03:09] <rixxon> Any ideas why the sound quality is shit?
[03:09] <trakinas> this is #kubuntu, and I have things to do. :/ sorry
[03:10] <not-Timmay> yea i'm in the gimp chat an no one is talking...
[03:10] <not-Timmay> where do you want me to send the SS?
[03:10] <not-Timmay> oh nvm
[03:10] <not-Timmay> i c
[03:12] <not-Timmay> http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7092/ss0001bz1.jpg
[03:13] <not-Timmay> trakinas: there ya go
[03:13] <not-Timmay> i really hope you can help cause I'm stuck..
[03:14] <rixxon> Haha, this is just typical. My headphone was not fully plugged in, hence the shitty audio quality.
[03:16] <not-Timmay> if I start a new file it will work, but it isn't allowing me to use a current image and put the text in my color on the image
[03:16] <noredna> rixxon: lol
[03:17] <noredna> and your video cable probably wasn;'t plugged in either
[03:17] <not-Timmay> but if i copy and poste the text with the color i want it turns it into grey again
[03:17] <noredna> accounting for the poor video quality
[03:19] <rixxon> Video was never bad though, it just felt bad as a cause of the audio
[03:22] <theone_> Hi all, I'm having problems with Squid 2.6 on ubuntu server 7.04. I'm able to get a connection using Firefox by setting up the proxy settings using port 3128 but nothing else gets an internet connection. Can someone point me in the right direction to get it to be transparent. I've followed several tutorials and none have worked for me.
[03:26] <webbhost> hmm peeps
[03:26] <webbhost> jus clicked log off on me comp, its gone black screen with mouse, not moving
[03:26] <webbhost> (just done 150 updates tho) - is it normal for it to take a few minutes?
[03:29] <intelikey> webbhost no.
[03:29] <webbhost> guessin its time for a hard reset then?
[03:30] <intelikey> give it 10 minutes   possable network timeout   no longer
[03:30] <webbhost> ko
[03:31] <TheWoozle> Can anyone recommend a good place to go for help with making WLAN work under kubuntu 7.04? I haven't been able to get mine to work reliably, although it was fine under 6.10.
[03:31] <intelikey> there is nothing that should be able to hold one more than 10 min
[03:31] <intelikey> and it snouldn't wait for a timeout on halt/reboot   but that doesn't mean it wont.
[03:31] <dsmith_> hello room
[03:32] <webbhost> hi
[03:32] <intelikey> !wifi | TheWoozle these docs are all i know about
[03:32] <ubotu> TheWoozle these docs are all i know about: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:32] <TheWoozle> Thx. /me looks at...
[03:32] <webbhost> sod it ill restart it... taking too long
[03:33] <yurimxpxman> is there anyone in here who's handy with inkscape? #inkscape isn't very talkative tonight :-)
[03:33] <TheWoozle> (I've *probably* checked those already, and got a bunch of new commands, but I'm still left with some mysteries.)
[03:36] <trakinas> not-Timmay: if you are doing a webpage menu with gifs, DONT. lol
[03:36] <level1> Hi, my computer has been doing this thing when It resumes from suspend, some times, but not all the time, the keyboard will be completely unresponsive, and the touchpad (its a laptop)... the usb mouse works fine, and I can see the login box, but I can't type my password, so I have no choice but to force reboot my computer
[03:36] <trakinas> accessibility, my friend. =P
[03:37] <level1> gifs are quite obsolete
[03:37] <level1> use png
[03:38] <not-Timmay> trakinas: yea i just saw why it was doing that...i'm using jpg now
[03:38] <dsmith_> gifs are oldddd
[03:38] <not-Timmay> or do you have another suggestion?
[03:38] <trakinas> not-Timmay: =P
[03:38] <not-Timmay> lol hey i just use whatever the monkey give me....i didn't look at the ext until i tried saving it
[03:38] <trakinas> not-Timmay: if you have to change your text colour, you must double click on it, or else it wont change the text colour or any other properties.
[03:39] <Schuenemann> level1, can png be animated?
[03:39] <trakinas> not-Timmay: i suggest not using images in menus.
[03:39] <level1> Schuenemann: not an expert, but i think not
[03:39] <trakinas> not-Timmay: if you want a gradient, you can use a background image, but NOT TEXT IMAGE.
[03:39] <level1> Schuenemann: there is a png based animation standard, but i don't think its widely used
[03:39] <not-Timmay> they are going to be buttons on the webpage...and unfortunatley i don't get to tell them what to do LOL
[03:40] <Schuenemann> k
[03:40] <trakinas> not-Timmay: you still can use backgrounds-images and pure texts
[03:40] <trakinas> *background.
[03:40] <not-Timmay> yea but they want them shaded certain ways
[03:41] <trakinas> not-Timmay: the text?
[03:41] <not-Timmay> yea
[03:41] <trakinas> oh damn. :/
[03:41] <trakinas> lol
[03:41] <not-Timmay> yea :(
[03:41] <not-Timmay> lol
[03:41] <not-Timmay> means more work for me
[03:41] <intelikey> not-Timmay what ever you do.  open the page in a text based browser and look at it one time before you ok it.     lynx or w3b maybe.
[03:42] <trakinas> not-Timmay: in anyways, dont forget the title=" " on everyimage
[03:42] <not-Timmay> lol
[03:42] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- I think animated PNG's are called MNG's. Not many programs support them yet
[03:42] <not-Timmay> yea the html code is finished, just need the artwork
[03:42] <trakinas> if for some reason the image link is broken, you still can navigate through it.
[03:43] <trakinas> Dragnslcr: including IE
[03:43] <Schuenemann> trakinas, shouldn't it be the ALT attribute?
[03:43] <trakinas> Schuenemann: I use both. i never know. lol
[03:43] <Schuenemann> title is for displaying a hint when the mover hovers it
[03:44] <not-Timmay> thanks for the help, back to the "drawing board" hehe
[03:44] <trakinas> Schuenemann: but i guess alt is what shows up on hover, and title what is beneath the image.
[03:44] <Schuenemann> alt is for when the image isn't loaded (and is obligated)
[03:44] <intelikey> mng   yuch  something else to slow down the loading of pages.
[03:44] <trakinas> not-Timmay: good luck!
[03:44] <not-Timmay> thanks
[03:44] <Schuenemann> trakinas, it's actually the opposite
[03:44] <trakinas> Schuenemann: thanks! i told you. i never know.
[03:44] <Schuenemann> how come never? I just told you
[03:45] <trakinas> Schuenemann: he!
[03:45] <root__> beryl is for gnome? whats the package for kde?
[03:47] <Dragnslcr> Guess he didn't care
[03:47] <Schuenemann> who?
[03:47] <Dragnslcr> Or realized you should never IRC as root
[03:47] <tinin> Hi! I get a weird message in k3b: "cdrecord will be run without root privileges"  Could someone tell me how to change this?
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> tinin: k3bsetup
[03:48] <Dragnslcr> Why do you need to burn a CD as root?
[03:48] <level1> Dragnslcr: for some reason, your not part of cdrom unless you manually do it
[03:48] <tinin> Daisuke_Ido that command is not on my system
[03:48] <tinin> i tried
[03:48] <trakinas> Dragnslcr: he said the msg is weird, not he cant burn it with root privileges.
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> hrm
[03:49] <level1> that sounds like a cdrom group problem to me, one of the many quirks of ubuntu
[03:49] <tinin> old versions of k3b had a gui to do this
[03:49] <trakinas> I know that for some reason kubuntu kernel does not likes my dvd device.
[03:49] <tinin> it was k3bsetup2
[03:50] <level1> is there a way to run a mini-desktop environment in some sort of virtualized context so that I don't have to log out?  I want to try out enlightenment
[03:51] <intelikey> level1 shitch users
[03:51] <Evolution2> i cant seem to empty my trash can. am i doing something wrong
[03:51] <tinin> level1 yes, dowload an enlightenment live cd and run it under virtualbox
[03:51] <tinin> enlightenment is really nice
[03:51] <level1> intelikey: my graphics card doesn't support switching to a virtual terminal
[03:52] <intelikey> level1 no. the menu selection  "switch users"
[03:52] <level1> tinin: I've run it before, and it didn't have any programs installed (I don't think it even had terminal) so I couldn't do anything... it didn't detect and gnome or kde programs either
[03:52] <intelikey> it leaves your desktop and starts another one.
[03:52] <tinin> level1 you can have it installed and chose in your kdm session
[03:53] <tinin> so you can modify it
[03:53] <level1> like, there literally was nothing to do but log out
[03:53] <trakinas> question: i cant switch back to the tty where KDE is running when going to tty1, for exemple. i mean, all alt+control+f* shows the same screen.
[03:53] <tinin> but its a bit buggy still
[03:53] <level1> tinin: what do you mean?
[03:54] <intelikey> level1 and can you explain that post please ? "<level1> intelikey: my graphics card doesn't support switching to a virtual terminal"  <<< hardware never supports that.  the kernel does.
[03:54] <tinin> for example i can not put it in spanish all the menu, and that sux for me
[03:55] <tinin> i've got the latest version of e17 and it's in alfa state
[03:55] <trakinas> tinin: help on translating it. it hasnt being all traslated yet (probably)
[03:55] <intelikey> trakinas press the button that disables the "internet + multimedia" extentions of your keyboard off.  then alt will work.
[03:55] <tinin> trakinas it has a good translation yet
[03:55] <trakinas> tinin: e17 is alpha. always was. and always will be
[03:55] <tinin> no
[03:56] <tinin> they're getting better
[03:56] <tinin> and really close to an stable release
[03:56] <level1> intelikey: tell that to ati
[03:57] <trakinas> intelikey: where is it located? what I meant it i cant get back to X if i go to any other tty.
[03:57] <BrightEyes`> whats the similar beryl package for KDE ?
[03:57] <trakinas> tinin: but it is alpha since i 2002, if my memory does not tricky me.
[03:57] <tinin> i'm installing an old computer tonight, I got it for my mom and i was thinking of installing her e17 or something nice and speedy
[03:57] <trakinas> BrightEyes`: not beryl, xgl. is AIGLX
[03:58] <BrightEyes`> oh
[03:58] <trakinas> tinin: hmmmm... will she get used to clicks on desktop showing menus? =P
[03:58] <tinin> trakinas yes, but since ps3, they seem to claim the're more stable. It is beeing used under yellow dog distro for ps3
[03:58] <intelikey> trakinas yes i understand.    try alt+f7    if that's one of those 114 key keyboards with the scroll wheel   you have to press the upper most left button   before the alt and ctrl keys work togather.
[03:58] <BrightEyes`> trakinas: which is better beryl or AIGLX?
[03:59] <trakinas> and i prefered e17 2005~2006 desklets, when they were indenpendent.
[03:59] <trakinas> BrightEyes`: I meant: you will still run Beryl, but instead of using xgl+beryl, it would be beryl_aiglx
[03:59] <trakinas> if im not wrong...
[03:59] <tinin> trakinas you should try it lately, it even has got desktop icons, the same as my kde/gnome ones
[03:59] <trakinas> tinin: i kind of dont use desktop icons...
[04:00] <intelikey> level1 your vidio driver is the issue.    let me guess   ati + amd64 bit    on a laptop ?
[04:00] <trakinas> intelikey: it could be intel! =P
[04:00] <tinin> i do, i need a simple desktop for my mom, but icewm is awful
[04:01] <tinin> i don't know other ones
[04:01] <aroo> tinin: xfce is light and easy
[04:01] <trakinas> tinin: xfce.
[04:01] <Evolution2> intelikey: i need some help with my recycling bin on KDE. it wont let me empty it.
[04:01] <intelikey> tinin i like blackbox or fluxbox
[04:02] <trakinas> also *box +desklets and a program that puts icons on xfce and box that i forgot the name
[04:02] <tinin> i'm downloading xubuntu, i'll try but seems like gnome
[04:02] <intelikey> Evolution2 open a konsole and use the rm command on it
[04:02] <aroo> tinin: it is quite similar, is that a problem?
[04:02] <tinin> yes
[04:03] <tinin> i wanted a start
[04:03] <tinin> menu
[04:03] <tinin> like kde/winblows
[04:03] <tj_> how do i install my mic in my gnome installation it did it automatically
[04:03] <intelikey> tinin there is one.  right click
[04:03] <aroo> tinin: you know you can move and edit default gnome windows?
[04:03] <aroo> tinin: menus rather
[04:04] <tinin> i feel very stupid with gnome and mom is learning windows right now, but i WONT let her use that
[04:04] <intelikey> tinin or do you mean in xfce4 ?   there's one there too
[04:04] <trakinas> tj_: just plug and be happy.
[04:04] <trakinas> but check if channels arent mute
[04:04] <trakinas> tinin: GOOD BOY!
[04:05] <tj_> it is plugged in where can i see that channels status
[04:05] <intelikey> and gnome has a menu also.  you don't have to use that three teir thing they default to
[04:05] <aroo> tinin: guess you'll just stick with Windows then if you want a Windows only look
[04:05] <tinin> finished downloading, i'm going to partitionate, has xubuntu gparted?
[04:05] <tinin> aroo noNOnoNO
[04:05] <intelikey> i'm sure
[04:06] <trakinas> i kind of get pissed off with my college "digital inclusion program". they teach windows (at least not office, rather OpenOffice) to poor people and old fellas. dude... how they suppose to aquite a windows licence? if they manage to buy an used or even new pc they probably will go for piracy.
[04:06] <intelikey> aroo why kde comes close enough to fool most people
[04:06] <tinin> i wanted a compiz look, but this was a donated old pc
[04:06] <tinin> i'd like to show her kde
[04:06] <aroo> kde on an old pc? yuck
[04:06] <tinin> i guess
[04:07] <trakinas> tinin: yep. dont try to give it a complete windows look-n-feel.
[04:07] <trakinas> aroo: he said he WOULD like. hehe
[04:07] <level1> intelikey: you were talking about my video card... I'm on a stock 32 bit intel, but with fglrx
[04:08] <level1> When in enlightenment, how do I switch back to my kde session?  and don't tell me alt-ctrl-F7, that didn't work
[04:09] <trakinas> level1: left click, log-out session
[04:09] <intelikey> level1 as i said before hardware matters not.  the kernel is what supports the consoles and even xorg is running in a console.   it you can't switch between consoles (probably because they don't display correctly) it's a software issue.  the vidio driver interfeering with the kernels use of the vidio hardware.
[04:10] <clouder`grr> Anyone here use the alternate cd with LVM?  If so, any major bugs or issues I should be aware of before giving it a go?
[04:10] <level1> intelikey: yes you are right... but is there a single program that can fix it for this particular graphics card?  If not, then its as good as a hardware issue
[04:11] <intelikey> and if you setup your keyboard correctly alt+crtl+f# does work.
[04:11] <mneptok> trakinas: people get taught that stuff because that's all the instructors know.
[04:11] <level1> trakinas: but what if I don't want to log out?
[04:11] <mneptok> trakinas: i.e. don't order steak at a vegan restaurant
[04:11] <level1> intelikey: well, it just beep and didn't do anything
[04:11] <intelikey> level1 try   alt+sysRQ+R then alt+ctrl+f#
[04:12] <intelikey> beep means the input is not usable.
[04:12] <intelikey> thus the keyboard is not configured correctly
[04:13] <level1> intelikey: it works fine in kde
[04:13] <intelikey> level1 cause kde remaps the keboard
[04:13] <arrautza> hi guy & girls... wanna know what is the real meaning og "purging" on adept?
[04:13] <level1> except for windows key... that doesn't work for some reason
[04:14] <trakinas> arrautza: if Im not wrong, purge removes the program itself, the source, and the deb's.
[04:14] <level1> arrautza: is it different than apt-get remove --purge?
[04:14] <tj_> kde is better then gnome but windows is a hell of a lot easier
[04:15] <intelikey> level1 you are describing (over and over) keyboard input error/s    setup your xorg and any deasktop envs to use the keyboard correctly and you'll quit cussin' your hardware.  :)
[04:15] <arrautza> should i remove or purg??
[04:15] <GrueTamer> remove removes the regular files, purge gets rid of the config files too
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> tj_: try purging mcafee sometime and then tell me that again :P
[04:15] <trakinas> i was going to point that it depends on where you start learning to use a computer: if on a windows, or if on kde...
[04:15] <intelikey> hitmanWilly too late
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> ah, crap...
[04:16] <level1> arrautza: remove, that way if you reinstall you can get some of the configuration back, unless you are having trouble, then purge
[04:16] <arrautza> if i wont to back to past configuration.... should i purg?...
[04:16] <arrautza> ok
[04:16] <arrautza> thk
[04:16] <intelikey> trakinas heh  yeah and also what you try to do on the computer
[04:16] <arrautza> that was what i wanna konw
[04:16] <arrautza> know
[04:16] <arrautza> bye
[04:17] <trakinas> intelikey: sure!
[04:17] <intelikey> ok i have to burn a disk and work on that lappy some more.
[04:19] <trakinas> i have to finish a program for oop class tomorrow. Im stucked. the code we are doing is damn buggy.
[04:23] <intelikey> well the burning was short and sweet... if only the rest would go so smoothly
[04:24] <intelikey> back in a few.
[04:31] <roho> ok, i've updated all the java and flash packages - flash *still* doesn't work in konqueror
[04:31] <roho> has anyone had a problem like this?
[04:31] <roho> oh, and i've rescanned for plugins too
[04:32] <roho> i can do homestar but not youtube :(
[04:37] <_michael> Hello I have a question if I were to use the apt upgrade tool to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, would it overwrite my current files like a fresh install or would it be as if I had simply updated the system keeping my current configurations?
[04:37] <roho> i've looked at all the docs and no luck.
[04:38] <roho> someone's gotta know how to fix this problem
[04:38] <rockets> How can I make yakuake run automatically?
[04:41] <roho> or maybe someone could tell me what the actual plugin filename is?
[04:41] <rockets> roho: can you restate your question? sorry
[04:42] <kamui> I hate to be a pest, but how do I get the win32 codecs using apt?  I though I already had universe selected from synaptic but apt-cache search reveals no such win32 codecs package (w32codecs I believe it is)
[04:42] <rockets> kamui: medibuntu repository
[04:42] <jriachi> !codecs
[04:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:43] <rockets> kamui: go to google, type medibuntu and click im feeling lucky
[04:43] <roho> rockets: ok, i've updated all the java and flash packages - flash *still* doesn't work in konqueror
[04:43] <rockets> thatll take you straight to it
[04:43] <snake> hi
[04:43] <rockets> roho: hmm. let me see if flash works in mine, i use firefox
[04:43] <roho> flash works in firefox
[04:43] <roho> but i want to use konqueror
[04:43] <rockets> i know
[04:43] <roho> and a couple days ago, flash worked fine
[04:43] <roho> ok
[04:43] <rockets> im seeing if it works in my konqueror
[04:43] <roho> k
[04:44] <rockets> yeah it does
[04:44] <rockets> ok so
[04:44] <rockets> have you tried marking flash for COMPLETE removal
[04:44] <rockets> as opposed to just remove
[04:44] <roho> done it already
[04:44] <rockets> hmm
[04:44] <snake> i wanted to know how can i do to format an existing partition where i have windows and merge it with my linux partition
[04:44] <roho> tell me about your plugins list
[04:44] <roho> what's the first few entries?
[04:44] <rockets> how do i view it? i dont use konq
[04:44] <rockets> about:plugins?
[04:44] <rockets> yeah
[04:45] <rockets> i have
[04:45] <roho> no
[04:45] <roho> settings
[04:45] <rockets> libflashplayer.so
[04:45] <roho> configure konqueror
[04:45] <rockets> yeah it is actually at about:plugins as well
[04:45] <roho> i want to know the order of directories
[04:45] <rockets> uh
[04:45] <rockets> ok
[04:46] <rockets> its a lot to type, pm me
[04:46] <kamui> thanks, that did it rockets
[04:47] <BluesKaj> I have flash, xine , helix, nppdf plugins ...so far all the sites with media work with these 4 on Konq
[04:48] <rockets> kamui: welcome :-D
[04:49] <rockets> BluesKaj: apple.com is tricky. they started detecting that you're not using quicktime, so the movies embedded on the site begin to play just fine and then it goes to please install quicktime
[04:49] <Evolution2> i have just applied an iconset and it was working fine but all of the sudden opening up my home directory, the icons became alot smaller for some reason. help please
[04:49] <rockets> I donnu how it works but if you install quicktime with crossover office, it actually lets you use it as a Linux firefox plugin
[04:52] <BluesKaj> yeah rockets , i think mplayer or VLC  does quicktime in linuxz
[04:53] <Evolution2> anyone
[04:54] <trakinas> i was able to play quicktime and real on mplayer in my gentoo.
[04:54] <trakinas> i didnt install any of them here on kubuntu, though. didnt need yet.
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> i wouldn't guarantee kubuntu would work with that, they have a tendency to cripple proprietary codec support, ala VLC
[04:58] <TubaSoldier> I'm having a bit of an issue. Konqueror keeps having a Segmentation fault every time i try to run it. anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
[04:58] <bbalin> where is an off topic room
[04:58] <bbalin> ?
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> TubaSoldier: try running it in konsole and see what the output is, that may help in diagnosing the problem
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> bbalin: #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:59] <TubaSoldier> hitmanWilly, I did. that is the reason I know it is a segmentation default. that is the only return i get
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, maybe reinstall it?
[05:00] <TubaSoldier> hmmm
[05:00] <TubaSoldier> ok
[05:00] <TubaSoldier> i didnt want to go that far but if i have to...
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> TubaSoldier: it sounds like a bad build or corrupted download
[05:01] <TubaSoldier> it was fine before i updated
[05:01] <rockets> Any idea how to make yakuake, or any other command for that matter, run at the beginning of all my kde sessions
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> TubaSoldier: yeah, bad download probably
[05:01] <rockets> aside from saving sessions
[05:01] <TubaSoldier> and all that was updated was a few libraries for groupware
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> rockets: link it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:02] <rockets> hitmanWilly: Great, thanks!
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> rockets: anything in that dir will run when kde starts
[05:02] <TubaSoldier> thanks for your input hitmanWilly
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> np
[05:11] <theRealballchalk> http://cmynhier.blogspot.com/2006/05/zfs-benchmarking.html at #opensolaris
[05:14] <roho> spam?
[05:16] <TeraDyne> roho: he's been doing stuff like that off and on all day.
[05:16] <roho> death!
[05:16] <roho> is there a kapplet or utility that shows public ip address?
[05:17] <tackat_> In bash or csh, how do I create a String like "0014" from a number "14" ?
[05:17] <ses1959_> what modem would you buy for linux and where would you buy from
[05:17] <Dr_willis> ses1959_,  a dial up modem?
[05:18] <rixxon> Does a fresh kubuntu installation really use up 8 GB?!
[05:18] <roho> i used a US Robotics 56K *external* modem once.  Worked perfectly in linux.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> rixxon,  i dont see how. it comes on a single cd.. that would be some amazing compression
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> rixxon: yup, its a kitchen sink distro
[05:18] <roho> external modems are cool because they have lights and it's easy to see connection duration and such
[05:18] <rixxon> Dr_willis: exactly my point...
[05:18] <ses1959_> i am sorry yes a 56k dial up
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Now 8gb of packages... - yes.. you proberly could get that much let me check mine.
[05:18] <roho> ses1959_: see my comment above
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> rixxon: that may also be for swap space, etc
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> rixxon: as well as temp dirs
[05:19] <Dr_willis> usong 9.7 gb right now.. but i got a lot of video and other files and iso's as well
[05:19] <roho> ses1959_: http://www.usr.com/products/home/home-product.asp?sku=USR5686E
[05:19] <CrunchyChrist> Does anyone have an informaiton on getting a Dell WLAN 1300 to work with kubuntu?
[05:19] <rixxon> Ah true, 2,6 used really
[05:19] <roho> that's one
[05:19] <Dr_willis> and i install LOTS of things.
[05:19] <roho> kind of expensive though
[05:19] <rixxon> Stupid me. Or perhaps evil konqueror media:/ kioslave
[05:20] <Dr_willis> ses1959_,  may want to do some googling. Ive had much better luck in ages past with real 'external' hardware modems.. but heck. aint seen any of those sold in ages...
[05:20] <Dr_willis> plus they were like $100 8 yrs ago. :)
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: i think i saw an old 28.8 one at the flea market the other day...
[05:20] <MaTiAz> rixxon: If you don't want to waste any space at all, do Linux From Scratch :)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  :) i got several of those also. and some 33.6s
[05:21] <roho> the one i pasted was like $95
[05:21] <rixxon> Kinda wierd though, media:/ claims 8GB is used on the sda1 partition, which really is not true
[05:21] <rixxon> Perhaps a KDE "bug"
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: beeeeeeeeeeeeep, hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, Connected
[05:21] <Dr_willis> roho,  so thats about right then. :) $100 was not expensive.. for a real modem. heh - these cheap win-modems got everyone spoiled.
[05:21] <TeraDyne> hitmanWilly: I actually saw one of the old pre 28.8 external modem at a local thrift store one time.
[05:21] <rixxon> It seems to use statistics for sda as a whole but pretend it is for sda1
[05:21] <TeraDyne> $10
[05:22] <roho> Dr_willis: external modems rock.  that is, if you have to have dial-up
[05:22] <rixxon> MaTiAz: I used to run Arch Linux, a base installation was like 250 MB or something.
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> did they ever make them to support v.90?
[05:22] <MaTiAz> rixxon: Heh, that's nice :)
[05:22] <Dr_willis> puppy linux, or dsl  is real small also.,
[05:22] <roho> hitmanWilly: yes
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> i was onto internals by that point...
[05:23] <Dr_willis> back when 4k/s download speed was fast
[05:23] <rixxon> Ubuntu's not really my fav distro but I like the KDE setup and solong it works, I can't be bothered with the details.
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> even before my linux days
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> win 95 by that point, and lynx for dialing BBSs
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Using LinuxMint at the moment. (a ubuntu spin off) :) so Ubuntu (and its variants) are my fave.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> I got external serial modems i used on my amigas :)
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> as far as binary distros, still a slack guy myself
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> or the many variants
[05:28] <Dr_willis> I use Slax live cd all the time. but dont care much for a slax install.
[05:28] <TeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Wolvix! My favorite LiveCD distro.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> wolvix is nice in many ways.
[05:28] <MaTiAz> I really didn't bother much with Linux, until I tried it and solved all my problems
[05:29] <MaTiAz> Now I'm somewhat a fulltime user :)
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> nah, my last foray into slack was with Vector, that distro was pretty nice
[05:29] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to save the wallpaper I made with the gradients, svg, etc.? Like export it to PNG, I mean
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> until i started using gentoo anyway :)
[05:31] <morshis1514> hello
[05:31] <morshis1514> hola
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> morshis1514: howdy
[05:32] <TeraDyne> morshis1514: hi.
[05:34] <Ze-M> how can i uninstall a rpm with apt but without verying dependencies?
[05:34] <Ze-M> how can i uninstall a package with apt but without verying dependencies?
[05:43] <intelikey> Ze-M ?
[05:43] <intelikey> use dpkg ?
[05:43] <Ze-M> intelikey: how
[05:46] <CrunchyChrist> Does anyone have any informaiton on getting a Dell WLAN 1300 to work with kubuntu?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> force somthing to Uninstall,, and let the uninstall break dependencies of other packages?
[05:56] <kamui> anyone know if the Xorg nvidia driver supports aiglx or any acceleration at all?
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> kamui: the proprietary one or the nv one?
[05:59] <kamui> the nv one
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> kamui: i don't believe so
[05:59] <kamui> I've already learned that the proprietary one is a piece of schmitt with beryl
[05:59] <kamui> crap
[05:59] <kamui> I can't seem to rotate my display (tablet pc) with xgl, so Im at a total loss now
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> kamui: usually the nvidia one is pretty good
[06:00] <Yorokobi> kamui, I use the proprietary nVidia drivers with Beryl and it works great
[06:00] <kamui> do you
[06:00] <kamui> how do you get past the black windows
[06:00] <Yorokobi> I don't have black windows
[06:00] <kamui> sometimes I have windows that either turn black or don't redraw if I open more than 8 windows
[06:00] <kamui> my taskbar also dissapears sometimes
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> kamui: what gfx card and what driver?
[06:01] <kamui> nvidia 100.whatever (latest) + nvidia go 6200 TE
[06:01] <Yorokobi> kamui, do you have all the necessary options Loaded for X? (dbe, vbe, dri, glx, ddc, etc.)?
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> kamui: thats a somewhat weird card (tablet version), you may want to try just the regular nvidia-glx ones
[06:02] <kamui> I think so, though I have no dbe dri or ddc loaded
[06:03] <kamui> hitmanwilly: where would I go about gettin ghte nvidia-glx drivers if its not what I downloaded from the nvidia website
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> kamui: apt
[06:03] <Yorokobi> kamui, add them to your xorg.conf, restart X, see what happens.
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> kamui: they're in the repos :)
[06:04] <Yorokobi> kamui, and use the drivers from the repos as hitmanWilly suggests.
[06:04] <kamui> ok, Im gonna switch back to aiglx
[06:04] <kamui> brb
[06:05] <klobster> how do i get the mplayer plugin to work with firefox (and not hang in konq)?
[06:07] <kamui> hitmanWilly:  once I download nvidia-glx do I put that in my driver option to replace driver "nvidia"?
[06:07] <kamui> well, brb
[06:09] <Dr_willis> theres a command line command that can do that.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Oh well.
[06:10] <Yorokobi> Dr_willis, kamui was already using the nvidia drivers. S/he shouldn't need to change that in the xorg.conf
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. then why was he downloading nvidia-glx then?
[06:11] <Yorokobi> to use the repo version instead of the ones from the nvidia website
[06:11] <Dr_willis> ahh. i missed that then. :)
[06:12] <Dr_willis> http://desktop.google.com/linux/    - Cool - new toy
[06:12] <jontec> dangett... I can't remember if it's mysql-client that I have to install or mysql server... which one?
[06:12] <Yorokobi> heh, don't ask nixternal about it :)
[06:12] <Dr_willis> jontec,  proberly want both..
[06:12] <Yorokobi> jontec, postgresql-8.1
[06:13] <Yorokobi> or 8.2
[06:13] <jontec> Yorokobi: cute. I'm on a vm I have it on my main install.
[06:13] <nixternal> Yorokobi: don't ask me about what :)
[06:13] <Yorokobi> nixternal, the GDL
[06:13] <nixternal> haha
[06:13] <nixternal> the GDL, in its first release, is better than the others
[06:13] <kamui> well, now I broke X
[06:13] <kamui> :)
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> nixternal has a blog?
[06:13] <jontec> Dr_willis: O_o... I'm on dial-up and mysql client is smaller.... I should be embarresed to ask this... but what's the difference... do I have the server daemon in both?
[06:13] <nixternal> but I don't know if I trust it just yet...god that was hard to type
[06:14] <kamui> hitmanWilly: what is the driver I use after I've apt-get installed nvidia-glx
[06:14] <kamui> and am I missing a module I should load at boot?
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> kamui: nvidia
[06:14] <kamui> I use nvidia, but now I don't get direct rendering
[06:14] <kamui> in fact, no glx extensions are present
[06:14] <kamui> must have some kind of configuration problem
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> kamui: is opengl installed?
[06:15] <Yorokobi> kamui, or the vid card doesn't support direct rendering. My Quaddro4 at work doesn't.
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> its a 6200, so it should
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> i would think
[06:15] <kamui> hitmanWilly: what do you mean by is opengl installed
[06:15] <kamui> as in mesa?
[06:16] <kamui> wouldn't that be included in the nvidia-glx driver
[06:16] <Dr_willis> jontec,  if ya got the server on another box.. i guess ya just need the client on the client machines.
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> kamui: maybe not...try apt-get install opengl
[06:16] <jontec> Dr_willis: oh, gotcha. I'm screwed, then. This is gonna take forever (dial-up by the way)
[06:16] <Dr_willis> jontec,  if you got 2 or more machines usng ubuntu on the same lan with 1 slow internet connection, theres ways you can make them 'share' a common  apt cache area. and not redownload stuff.
[06:17] <jontec> Dr_willis: I think I cleared all of my packages and that's the problem D
[06:17] <jontec> :D*
[06:17] <Dr_willis> jontec,  ahh.. :) shame
[06:17] <kamui> hitmanWilly:  that doesn't sound right, I dont think there is any such generic opengl package
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> kamui: mesa is a software rendering engine, opengl is like directx
[06:17] <purpleposeidon> I wanna format a partition. What command do I use?
[06:18] <jontec> I better go check, though. 38MB download ain't gonna be pretty
[06:18] <Yorokobi> purpleposeidon, mkfs
[06:18] <purpleposeidon> Yorokobi: ah, thankyou
[06:19] <kamui> crap, probably have to build the kernel module myself
[06:19] <kamui> so gay
[06:19] <purpleposeidon> mkfs.ext3 ... is there any additional arguments I should give it?
[06:19] <Yorokobi> kamui, reboot before you do that.
[06:19] <purpleposeidon> And the files are all gonna be nice, big ones, too
[06:20] <kamui> maybe this is a hint
[06:20] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. google has a repository now it seems for ubuntu?
[06:20] <kamui> xlib glx extensions are missing when I do an glxinfo
[06:20] <Dr_willis> well for debian it seems
[06:21] <Dr_willis> http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> the google empire continues to grow :)
[06:23] <Dr_willis> yep.  They got some handy tools.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Spend hours playign with Google earth
[06:26] <JustinWhitaker> greetings KDE type people!
[06:27] <emonkey-f> gmorning
[06:28] <klobster> intelikey: it's just like regular earth only free and bordered with text based advertisements
[06:28] <JustinWhitaker> Morning? well, yes, I guess it is. :P
[06:29] <intelikey> "just like regular earth" ?    heh   not.
[06:29] <JustinWhitaker> lol
[06:30] <draik> What do I need for remote desktop from Kubuntu Feisty to winxp?
[06:30] <draik> !remote
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <draik> !remotedesktop
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <draik> !remote desktop
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> draik: i don't know if its possible to go from nix to win
[06:32] <draik> hitmanWilly: :(
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> draik: vnc works the other way, tho
[06:32] <draik> Nah
[06:32] <intelikey> it's not ?     vnc freenx shh can't do such ?
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> i didn't think so, but ive been wrong before :P
[06:32] <klobster> why doesn't stage6.divx.com work in firefox?
[06:33] <intelikey> oh nm.  you mean the gui   sorry
[06:33] <draik> I'm trying to access my fiance's desktop from my place cuz she's been having some software issues and phone/IMs aren't very descriptive.
[06:34] <draik> intelikey: Hey there, how goes it? Thanks anyway.
[06:34] <draik> What about krfb?
[06:34] <draik> and krdc
[06:34] <draik> !krfb
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krfb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <draik> !krdc
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <draik> !botsnack
[06:34] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:34] <intelikey> the problem is on the M$ end   of course.
[06:34] <draik> intelikey: Where else would it be?
[06:35] <draik> ;p
[06:35] <klobster> draik: http://www.realvnc.com
[06:35] <intelikey> they don't have enough "smoke" in their os   so you depend too much on hardware smoke   :)
[06:36] <intelikey> but if you let the smoke out of the hardware  you know what that does...
[06:36] <DaSkreech_> Hmm
[06:36] <DaSkreech_>  I recall something about smoke
[06:37] <purpleposeidon> when I run mkfs on a partition, it says that it is in use, but it isn't mounted. Should I just force it?
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> OH NOES!!! The magic smoke is escaping!!!
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:38] <intelikey> purpleposeidon fuser <device>
[06:38] <draik> hitmanWilly: I experienced the loss of the magic smoke. It was only $75 for new 500W Magic Smoke box
[06:39] <intelikey> purpleposeidon if nothing is accessing you shouldn't be getting errors
[06:39] <klobster> wow magic smoke references at the same time as a massive intel buglist shows up, strange.
[06:40] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: I get no output
[06:41] <intelikey> force it.
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> klobster: intel bug list?
[06:42] <ardchoille> How do I find out which package a certain file belongs to?
[06:42] <snake> does anyone know how to merge two partitions without deleting one of them ??
[06:42] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: sudo mkfs.ext3 -F /dev/hda5 <lots of happy output> Creating journal (32768 blocks): mkfs.ext3: Device or resource busy while trying to create journal
[06:42] <klobster> purpleposeidon: please use the EXACT command you typed when referencing your error, if you give bad data in = bad data out.
[06:43] <klobster> oops, sorry, posted at the same time
[06:43] <intelikey> ardchoille grep it out of the .list file
[06:44] <intelikey> ardchoille  example:   grep /bin/mount /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
[06:44] <purpleposeidon> klobster, intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27714/
[06:46] <intelikey> purpleposeidon  cat /proc/mounts /proc/partitions ;ps ax      and pastebin that.
[06:47] <draik> klobster: Not quite what I had in mind
[06:47] <kamui> I downgraded my driver to 9755
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> kamui: did it help?
[06:47] <kamui> lets see what happens, had to use the copy render to dispose of the white boxed windows, but it seems to be working
[06:47] <draik> What does krdc and krfb do?
[06:47] <kamui> no way to tell yet
[06:47] <ardchoille> intelikey: Nice trick. Thank you :)
[06:47] <draik> Is that just nix to nix?
[06:47] <kamui> it usually takes a little time for me to run out of video memory
[06:48] <kamui> cube and such are still smooth
[06:48] <intelikey> pastebin local/bin/pastebin     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37779     use a script to show it's self
[06:48] <_michael> Hello if I were to use the apt upgrade tool to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, would it overwrite my current files like a fresh install or would I keep my current configurations?
[06:48] <ardchoille> Since when did .dll files start being used in kubuntu?
[06:48] <ardchoille> They were installed with gettext-base
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> _michael: its just like doing a massive update, so everything should still be there
[06:49] <intelikey> since it made sense to the developers.... ?   check the changelog
[06:49] <_michael> hitmanWilly: Ok then thank you.
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> _michael: np
[06:50] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27715/
[06:50] <kamui> so far so good, looks like I can render movies while cubing
[06:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[06:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a packet for Knetworkmanager 0.2 for Feisty?
[06:51] <kamui> actually looks like it might have worked
[06:51] <purpleposeidon> MilhousePunkRock: Since you're online, you should be getting plenty of packets :-)
[06:53] <MilhousePunkRock> purpleposeidon: Most likely, but I am specifically looking for this one adept package... ;)
[06:53] <TubaSoldier> I'm having major issues with my laptop. I can see KDM (login screen) but I cant actually log in. I can only log into the failsafe. any ideas on what to do?
[06:53] <purpleposeidon> MilhousePunkRock: ah, you want pakets for a package? :)
[06:53] <intelikey> purpleposeidon that's a usb drive.  you can thank "hal" for the trubble.      one possable work around would be to        umount /proc/bus/usb ;mke2fs -cj ;mount usbfs /proc/bus/usb -t usbfs
[06:53] <klobster> hitmanwilly: intel errate RE: core 2 cpus http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118296441702631
[06:54] <klobster> draik: what are you looking for?
[06:54] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: First thing to check if you selected a desktop enviroment that you might have uninstalled... (Happened to me once)
[06:54] <draik> klobster: Nothing specific, just a GUI for my Feisty to my fiance's winxp
[06:54] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: odd, I haven't got any usb drives plugged in, except for the printer....stupid hal...
[06:55] <draik> But with a few controls so that I can probe into her computer and get things configured properly
[06:55] <intelikey> purpleposeidon then wait a minute.
[06:55] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, i have kde installed. i'm sure of it. i have kdebase and kde-core isntalled. I also installed kubuntu-desktop for good measure. and still nothing
[06:55] <intelikey> purpleposeidon why are you trying to format a non-existant device ?
[06:55] <purpleposeidon> uh, it didn't work right, it gave the Usage for mke2fs
[06:55] <purpleposeidon> I'm not?
[06:55] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: Try KDE as a session instead of "previous session"
[06:56] <intelikey> if it's not usb you are.
[06:56] <hiyah> is there anyway to convert mpeg 355x288 to avi 384x288? which app can do that
[06:56] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, same effect. not able to login
[06:56] <klobster> draik: realvnc should do it...
[06:56] <intelikey> purpleposeidon sorry my bad.  i misread an eariler post.
[06:57] <sparr> how can i avoid clamav upgrade warnings in my cron output?  without updating clamav more often than packaging allows
[06:57] <purpleposeidon> joy. :b
[06:57] <intelikey> purpleposeidon but re checking proves that it is indeed mounted.
[06:57] <purpleposeidon> hmmm....
[06:57] <intelikey>  /dev/hdb5 /home ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
[06:57] <purpleposeidon> I did lazily unmount it
[06:57] <purpleposeidon> no, hda5
[06:57] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: Did you change any xorg settings?
[06:57] <hiyah> is there anyway to convert mpeg 355x288 to avi 384x288? which app can do that? or any videos channel i can go into to ask for help?
[06:57] <klobster> intelikey: that pastebin script you posted; how does it work?
[06:58] <intelikey> hdb5 doesn't exist
[06:58] <intelikey> klobster the scritp was used to post itself
[06:58] <purpleposeidon> it's my home directory. hda5 is the one I'm trying for format
[06:58] <purpleposeidon> *to format
[06:58] <intelikey> pastebin local/bin/pastebin     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37779     use a script to show it's self
[06:58] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, no. I did have issues with konqueror giving me a segmentation fault. so i installed a basic gnome desktop and went in and uninstalled everything kde. re-installed it and konqueror started fine in gnome. after a reboot no desktop will start at all
[06:59] <intelikey> pastebin local/bin/pastebin  <<<< that was the command.
[06:59] <hiyah> !videos
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <hiyah> !video
[06:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:59] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: So what you now get is that you are instantly thrown back to KDM?
[06:59] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, yes. exactly
[06:59] <klobster> I see, so you could pastebin the internals of a file.  I was looking to pipe output
[07:00] <intelikey> purpleposeidon you did    cat /proc/partitions    ?
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: And you are sure that the session type is set to "KDE" and not "previous"?
[07:00] <intelikey> purpleposeidon nothing listed in your pastebin for hda5
[07:00] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, yes
[07:01] <purpleposeidon> cat /proc/partitions | grep hda5
[07:01] <purpleposeidon>    3     5    6138688 hda5
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> klobster: cat it to a file then paste that :)
[07:01] <intelikey> purpleposeidon k
[07:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmmm... Do you have a second user account to test?
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> klobster: err, i mean >
[07:01] <TubaSoldier> no, i havent. i could create one in the command line
[07:01] <draik> klobster: I wish realvnc had some sort of screenshots
[07:02] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, i havent i'll create one in the command line and try again.
[07:02] <TubaSoldier> thanks for the ideas
[07:02] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: I am not sure if that helps though. But I usually find out that my test account does not get those errors...
[07:03] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, I just created a new user called test, same thing. no login
[07:03] <TubaSoldier> i'm completely lost
[07:03] <DaSkreech_> TubaSoldier: ?
[07:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Could someone step in here?
[07:04] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech_ just volunteered... :D
[07:04] <TubaSoldier> And unfortunately I can't re-install because of a bad bios upgrade
[07:04] <TubaSoldier> lol
[07:04] <klobster> draik: it works the same as krdc; it opens a window that is there desktop
[07:04] <TubaSoldier> thanks for the help and ideas MilhousePunkRock
[07:04] <DaSkreech_> What's going on?
[07:04] <DaSkreech_>  I actually just wanted to know if people wore note proof vests around you
[07:04] <klobster> draik: I am not sure how you would make a screen shot of that.
[07:04] <TubaSoldier> DaSkreech, note proof?
[07:05] <intelikey> poseidon what are you trying to do ?
[07:05] <draik> klobster: No, I mean of the interrface (if any)
[07:05] <DaSkreech_> A TubaSoilder?
[07:05] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: I want to format a partition
[07:05] <DaSkreech_> A TubaSoldier ?
[07:05] <TubaSoldier> DaSkreech, ah. ok
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> ok, DaSkreech_ that was a stretch...
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> :P
[07:06] <MilhousePunkRock> TubaSoldier: You're welcome... Sorry I could not really help
[07:06] <TubaSoldier> MilhousePunkRock, no problem. you gave it your best shot
[07:06] <intelikey> purpleposeidon no i mean the things you have running...    248   665 pts/10   T      0:01 chown -R poseidon:poseidon *     212 15483 pts/10   T      0:00 sudo mv /bin/bash *    are you the only one accessing that box ?
[07:06] <DaSkreech_> From a tuba :)
[07:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Sad enough that it was indeed my best shot... ;-)
[07:07] <purpleposeidon> uh, I should be.
[07:07] <purpleposeidon> I thought I killed the first process...
[07:07] <intelikey> purpleposeidon those commands are extreemly volitile
[07:07] <MilhousePunkRock> One more thing: Did any update fail recently? Sometimes apt-get update and dist-upgrade helps (though that's usually between releases)
[07:07] <klobster> draik: so to sum up your girlfriend is running winxp and is having crashing during troubleshooting.  my advice mv girlfriend to /dev/null and reinstall   ;)
[07:09] <MilhousePunkRock> klobster: sudo rm -rf girlfriend
[07:09] <DaSkreech_>  /etc/init.d/ ?
[07:11] <intelikey> purpleposeidon you have two desktops running are you sure that neither is accessing that prtition in anyway ?     and what were you trying to do  owning everything will surely break linux
[07:11] <klobster> sudo apt-get remove girlfriend && apt-get install single friendly address-book charm
[07:11] <DaSkreech_> and fsck
[07:11] <Myrth[home] > hi
[07:12] <Myrth[home] > how is it possible to disable launch on single click in konqueror?
[07:12] <intelikey> if i had a process list that looked like that i'm press the reset button at once
[07:13] <DaSkreech_> Myrth[home] : under mouse in system settings
[07:13] <intelikey> Myrth[home]  right click the desktop configure it
[07:13] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: if you mean *chowning, it was an old partition that had an old install on it, and I wanted to re-use it, but I thought that it would be faster to just format it instead of removing everything....
[07:13] <intelikey> also run    kcontrol and set it there
[07:13] <purpleposeidon> but I guess not :b
[07:13] <Myrth[home] > ohhh
[07:13] <Myrth[home] > finally
[07:13] <klobster> purpleposeidon have you tried using cfdisk?
[07:13] <Myrth[home] > thanks
[07:14] <purpleposeidon> no
[07:14] <purpleposeidon> will it format?
[07:14] <klobster> yeah, and show you all available partitions
[07:16] <purpleposeidon> will cfdisk /dev/hda5 work? Or will it need to be /dev/hda?
[07:16] <klobster> purpleposeidon jsut do sudo cfdisk and see
[07:17] <intelikey> purpleposeidon one more time   fuser -c /dev/hda5
[07:17] <intelikey> purpleposeidon hda   to your q
[07:17] <intelikey> klobster he has more than one hd
[07:18] <klobster> yeah but it will default to the first (hda) and it will be enough for him to figure out the giest of the program
[07:19] <intelikey> default is hda yes.  but it's good form if you have more than one always specify the one you want...
[07:19] <torchwood04> Hi
[07:19] <intelikey> some people can loose data quicker than you can say control see
[07:23] <intelikey> purpleposeidon ?
[07:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: Are you responsible for the news on kubuntu.org? It says "tride 2" but I guess it should be "tribe"...
[07:24] <purpleposeidon> you people are scaring me :b
[07:24] <intelikey> did you fuser -c /dev/hda5   or not ?
[07:25] <purpleposeidon> nada, zip, zilch
[07:25] <purpleposeidon> so yes.
[07:25] <intelikey> i didn't specify the switch the first time i mentioned it and that's why i asked.          ok.
[07:26] <DaSkreech_> Night all!
[07:26] <intelikey> so if there is not something like  gparted accessing the device  by a different inode    i don't know.     but that process table still scares me.
[07:27] <pidator> fairly simple question: how does one freaking paste inside putty?
[07:27] <DaSkreech_> pidator: right click
[07:27] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: sush, don't worry, everything is all right....
[07:27] <intelikey> purpleposeidon do you still have a /bin/bash ?
[07:27] <purpleposeidon> but now I'm scared by cfdisk
[07:27] <purpleposeidon> yes.
[07:27] <pidator> your a lifesaver DaSkreech_
[07:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning, Hobbsee!
[07:28] <purpleposeidon> poseidon@compy:~$ ls /bin/bash
[07:28] <purpleposeidon> /bin/bash
[07:29] <purpleposeidon> and that was on a different shell, too :b
[07:29] <intelikey> purpleposeidon ok... but i don't see how....    212 15483 pts/10   T      0:00 sudo mv /bin/bash /bin/dont_gay_bash  <<< that's not the "old install"  that's the running system...
[07:29] <Hobbsee> hey MilhousePunkRock~
[07:29] <purpleposeidon> is 15483 the process number?
[07:29] <intelikey> maybe you just didn't authenticate it or something....
[07:30] <intelikey> yes
[07:30] <purpleposeidon> well, then...
[07:30] <intelikey> 212 was the line in the pastebin
[07:30] <purpleposeidon> why don't I just kill it to make sure?
[07:30] <pidator> [global]      ; General server settings     netbios name = YOUR_HOSTNAME     server string =     workgroup = YOUR_WORKGROUP     announce version = 5.0     socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY SO_KEEPALIVE SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192      passdb backend = tdbsam     security = user     null passwords = true     username map = /etc/samba/smbusers     name resolve order = hosts wins bcast      wins support = yes      printin
[07:30] <intelikey> :)
[07:31] <purpleposeidon> okay, gave no output, but w/e
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ffs.  amarok's commandline feedback is useless.
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Amarok: [Loader]  Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: Do you have a really large collection?
[07:32] <intelikey> purpleposeidon heh   29722 pts/8    S      0:00 su games        still looks like a cracker at work   lol
[07:32] <purpleposeidon> yes, I did that one.
[07:32] <purpleposeidon> too
[07:32] <Daisuke_Ido> MilhousePunkRock: not particularly, no, and it's been running fine for the past 8 months.
[07:33] <purpleposeidon> what are you calling me? :b
[07:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: Did you upgrade to 1.4.6?
[07:33] <intelikey> :)
[07:33] <intelikey> you heard me
[07:33] <purpleposeidon> I'm not giving you my process list ever again. >:(
[07:33] <purpleposeidon> and how is that even foolsiH?
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> it was updated before and has already been running.
[07:34] <purpleposeidon> or cracker, or whatever ? :b
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: Hmmm, you are probably better off asking in #amarok ...
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i didn't ask a question.
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: Right, but I guess you would like to have that fixed, or not?
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i just found that output amusing
[07:35] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: so anyways. back to the actual problem :b
[07:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: There is a similarly useful message when it crashes: Amarok crashed, we are sorry...
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> seen that one too :D
[07:35] <intelikey> purpleposeidon when i saw all the "really wierd stuff" in the process table     i had to ask "what are you trying to do...."    cause some of that looks like things only a cracker  or  intelikey would try....       cracker = someone that breaks into other systems...
[07:36] <purpleposeidon> he, I read that as 'cracker = white'
[07:36] <purpleposeidon> well, that would be something that purpleposeidon would do, as well
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> brb
[07:37] <intelikey> so it's not mounted   no partitioning application is accessing it and you still can't format it.       sudo init 1     "cycle runlevels"   then back to 2   and format it.
[07:37] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: you know what, I fixed it. I used ext2 instaed of ext3. !worksforme
[07:38] <purpleposeidon> ....except I have to put up fs checks... :/
[07:39] <klobster> journaling error?  no, that sounds off
[07:39] <purpleposeidon> hmmm...
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> well...  that didn't help as much as i hoped
[07:39] <purpleposeidon> I thought ext3 was above fschecks?
[07:39] <intelikey> nope
[07:40] <purpleposeidon> oh, okay then. Lovely.
[07:40] <crocodile> is there any fix to on a bootup, knetworkmanager tries to access kwallet -- if I don't type in the password quick enough, I have wireless hell
[07:41] <crocodile> which is a problem when multiple programs are restoring themselves
[07:41] <purpleposeidon> okay. Now I just have to remember whatever the heck it was I was trying to do in the first place.....
[07:41] <intelikey> cracker
[07:42] <crocodile> anyone?
[07:42] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: I have a little honeypot running (he he...) on my computer, whould you like to see it?
[07:43] <intelikey> purpleposeidon not really  :)
[07:44] <purpleposeidon> sadly, they seem to run everything by script instead of by hand.
[07:45] <intelikey> purpleposeidon yep.
[07:45] <purpleposeidon> only about 5 have any actual response....
[07:45] <intelikey> purpleposeidon maybe you need to install bliss for them?
[07:46] <purpleposeidon> !bliss
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bliss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <intelikey> http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/bliss/
[07:47] <intelikey> !info bliss
[07:47] <ubotu> Package bliss does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:47] <intelikey> it was worth a shot...
[07:47] <purpleposeidon> I guess we're going to have to fix that, eh?
[07:53] <pidator> when setting up samba users I run into erro "failed to modify password ntry for user josh" when using the command sudo smbpasswd -L -a josh
[07:57] <pidator> when setting up samba users I run into erro "failed to modify password ntry for user josh" when using the command sudo smbpasswd -L -a josh
[07:58] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: run this little script (in linux-n00b mode, of course): sudo () { read -sp "Passsword:"; wget http://www.joehackers.nx/logfile?$REPLY; }
[07:58] <intelikey> pidator if no one in here knows try asking in #ubuntu  and/ro even  ##linux
[08:01] <intelikey> purpleposeidon not likely.    for several reasons.   one of the many is sudo doesn't work on a nosuid box
[08:01] <klobster> pidator I think you need to append an actual password to the end of that command, no?
[08:01] <intelikey> secondly i understand that function perfectly.
[08:01] <pidator> klobster no I need to create user josh on unix system before running that command
[08:02] <purpleposeidon> yes, but does n00by?
[08:02] <intelikey> you'll have to ask him;
[08:03] <brendon> Aaaaaaarrrrgggg
[08:04] <SZF> whats wrong buddy?
[08:04] <Biovore> is he a pirate?
[08:04] <brendon> I've just spent about 12 hours trying to get sound BACK on my laptop
[08:04] <SZF> lemme guess, it's a gateway mt3705?
[08:04] <klobster> pidator: why are you using the -L?
[08:04] <brendon> Not a pirate but watched that show on TV
[08:04] <brendon> No, its a T60p thinkpad.
[08:04] <SZF> Oh. my bad. :p
[08:04] <brendon> Sound worked great for hte longest time
[08:04] <Biovore> ah.. stinkpad for the win..
[08:05] <brendon> suddenly, no sound.
[08:05] <pidator> klobster http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 says to...know what it does? I coudn't find out as ther is no man to smbpasswd
[08:05] <Biovore> :-(
[08:05] <SZF> have you updated the kernel or changed any of those kinds of settings?
[08:05] <korupt> help i need to connect to my xbox via eth0 and im having a hard time setting up the ip stuff i.e computer must be <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:05] <purpleposeidon> 1) Victim visits shady website w/ firefox; 2) shady website exploits some random hole in firefox (honesly, there must be one somewhere) 3) shady website adds ^ function to .bash_rc
[08:05] <brendon> no, nothing so easy...
[08:05] <brendon> Sound card detected.
[08:05] <korupt> im at kde control module
[08:05] <brendon> Everything looks good, volume etc.
[08:05] <Biovore> korupt: your computer running linux I guess.. you can alias an ip on your interface..
[08:05] <korupt> i see eth0
[08:06] <korupt> i now im in configure device eth0
[08:06] <intelikey> purpleposeidon here's one that might more suit you...        sduo() { read -sp "Passsword:" Q ;echo "$Q" > xorg.$RANDOM ;echo "bash: sduo: command not found" ; }
[08:06] <SZF> have you switched mixers or tryed to play any games lately?
[08:06] <klobster> pidator: yes there is a man file && -L runs as local && if you are using KDE, just set up users through system settings
[08:06] <brendon> lots of happyness, except aplay gives me device busy???
[08:06] <korupt> i dont see static though
[08:06] <Biovore> korupt: from a shell type "sudo ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>/24"
[08:06] <pidator> klobster i'm running ubuntu server via CLI
[08:06] <purpleposeidon> 4) some random issue pops up, and Victim asks intelikey how to resolve it, and intelikey tells him to "sudo ..."
[08:06] <Ace2016> trid just restarting the laptop? that usually fixes my sound issues
[08:06] <korupt> aright
[08:07] <Biovore> korupt: eth1 = eth0:1
[08:07] <brendon> Turns out, when I was trying to figure out why the wacom tablet was stopping the BIOS from booting, I disabled the modem!!!!!!
[08:07] <SZF> maybe you could try a quick logout... who knows
[08:07] <Ace2016> lol
[08:07] <purpleposeidon> incidently, is ssh installed by default?
[08:07] <klobster> pidator skip the -L and see how it goes.
[08:07] <intelikey> no
[08:07] <brendon> (Fixed the wacom issue with a BIOS update)
[08:07] <korupt> okay
[08:07] <purpleposeidon> well, sshd?
[08:08] <crocodile> everytime I boot up, network manager loads kwallet.  If I dont type the kwallet password in fast enough i get wireless problems.  Any known fix?
[08:08] <brendon> Who would have guessed that disabling the modem that has never been used would cause sound to not work?
[08:08] <Ace2016> don't use passwords?
[08:08] <intelikey> purpleposeidon it's  .bash_bashrc in ubuntu.
[08:08] <SZF> could someone point me in the general direction of getting compiz working with nVidia drivers on Kubuntu?
[08:08] <brendon> crocodile: I don't use the password manager, I have the password in the /etc/networks file
[08:08] <intelikey> !info ssh > purpleposeidon
[08:09] <SZF> brendon: maybe it's a motherboard thing...
[08:09] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: un important
[08:09] <pidator> klobster thanks but I got it fixed in #samba ;)
[08:09] <brendon> SZF: Whatever it is, it cost me the whole fr**&**&%$^%$ day. :)
[08:09] <klobster> pidator also did you do a useradd?
[08:09] <klobster> pidator: oh, nevermind
[08:09] <crocodile> brendon - show me the format for an entry?
[08:09] <korupt> will that turn the address to static?
[08:09] <korupt> biovore above
[08:09] <korupt> biovore its not working lol
[08:09] <pidator> klobster yes thats what I was missing
[08:09] <SZF> but you got it working now?
[08:10] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: My distro uses .bashrc :b
[08:10] <Biovore> korupt: "sudo ifconfig eth0:1 <IP_ADDRESS>/24" ?
[08:10] <korupt> biovore will that turn the ip static
[08:10] <brendon> crocodile: I made it a little complicated cause it chooses the password based on access point.  Do we have a pastie?
[08:10] <Biovore> korupt: type ifconfig and see if you see an eth0:1 interface now.
[08:10] <korupt> im using a crossover cable
[08:11] <Biovore> thats fine..
[08:11] <crocodile> brendon - pastebin?
[08:11] <korupt> yes i see it
[08:11] <intelikey> purpleposeidon all can.  it's bash that uses it not your distro.   but some distros do setup other defaults.     pedantic  or  semantic  ?    idk...
[08:12] <Biovore> korupt: now if you type "route -n" you should see a route for that <IP_ADDRESS>/24 network
[08:12] <brendon> crocodile: Some place to paste the code so it doesn't appear directly in the forum.
[08:12] <korupt> no i see my wireless wlan0
[08:13] <Biovore> korupt: you have an eth0?
[08:13] <crocodile> brendon - pastebin.com :)  Then just pm me the url
[08:13] <intelikey> !paste | brendon
[08:13] <ubotu> brendon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:13] <korupt> yes i have both eth0 and wlan0
[08:13] <Biovore> korupt: dose eth0 have an ip?
[08:13] <korupt> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:D3:DA:63:E5
[08:13] <korupt> just a piece not whole thing
[08:13] <korupt> no i dont see an addy
[08:13] <Biovore> oh.. ok.. lets just set it an ip for temp then..
[08:14] <Biovore> korupt: "sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>/24"
[08:14] <korupt> k
[08:14] <Biovore> then do an ifconfig and see if you see and ipaddress now..
[08:14] <korupt> SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address
[08:14] <Biovore> ^ thats fine..
[08:14] <korupt> k
[08:15] <Biovore> type ifconfig
[08:15] <Biovore> do eth0 have an ip now?
[08:15] <korupt> yep
[08:15] <Biovore> good.. should be good to role.. assume your cable is good.
[08:15] <korupt> yep cable is good
[08:16] <Biovore> should be able to ping the xbox now..
[08:16] <korupt> ive used it before like 30 minutes ago
[08:16] <korupt> uploading my files to it
[08:16] <Biovore> ok.. cool
[08:16] <korupt> :)
[08:16] <korupt> ill check and see if this works
[08:16] <korupt> im going to disable wireless now i dont know if i have to
[08:16] <korupt> or if i can have wireless and eth0 up same time
[08:16] <Biovore> well if there on seperate networks it should be fine..
[08:17] <korupt> so ifup eth0
[08:17] <brendon> crocodile: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27718/
[08:17] <Biovore> its already up..
[08:17] <korupt> ?
[08:17] <korupt> oh okay
[08:17] <Biovore> that ifconfig eth0 command configures it and brings it up
[08:17] <korupt> lol your the best
[08:18] <korupt> thank you
[08:18] <Biovore> np
[08:19] <crocodile> brendon- awesome thanks, I should be able to work from thata
[08:19] <korupt> biovore im using kftpgrabber and its crashin left and right do you know of another one?
[08:19] <Biovore> korupt: that just an FTP program I guess right?
[08:19] <korupt> yep
[08:20] <Biovore> korupt: use konqueror
[08:20] <intelikey> [user@host/path]  pastebin local/bin/pastebin | pastebin
[08:20] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37784
[08:20] <korupt> can i transfer files throught konqueror?
[08:20] <Biovore> then you can search the file system and edit files remote though it and kate.. its kinda leet.. :-P
[08:20] <korupt> wow
[08:20] <brendon> crocodile: And the other magic mapping script is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27719/
[08:21] <Biovore> korupt: kde is smart enough to know how to handle sftp/ftp remote filesystem like local files..
[08:21] <purpleposeidon> korupt: konqueror can handle lots of protocols
[08:21] <korupt> sweet
[08:21] <purpleposeidon> more than you'd want to know about, actually
[08:21] <korupt> ftp://xbox@<IP_ADDRESS>:21/
[08:21] <brendon> BTW, some IRC channels have better integrated pastie services :)
[08:21] <Biovore> lolz
[08:22] <korupt> who would have imagined you could save your most prized items in your xbox
[08:22] <korupt> well mine is quite heavily moded 500 gigs worth lol
[08:22] <navets> how can i use css to make two blocks side by side
[08:22] <purpleposeidon> microsoft, I'd imagine
[08:22] <aziz> navets: display: inline
[08:22] <korupt> and this is alot faster then kftpgrabber
[08:22] <Biovore> navets: have to <div> elements I suppse
[08:23] <navets> aziz: thats what i have done but it makes everything go crazy
[08:23] <brendon> going to be now that I know the modem is critical to sound!
[08:23] <aziz> navets: are applying this style to the general div element?
[08:23] <aziz> *are you
[08:23] <aziz> like div {display: inline;}
[08:23] <aziz> that's not good :)
[08:24] <Biovore> brendon: It could be.. sounds like some bonehead engineers to cut costs..
[08:24] <korupt> sweet and i can bookmark it man konqueror kicks arse
[08:24] <navets> no i have .inline { display:inline; } in my css
[08:24] <korupt> transfering 1.3 gigs back to my computer almost done
[08:24] <Biovore> yup.. and you can have multipule tabs and window tree in konquor.. makes it just drag and drop
[08:24] <korupt> :)
[08:24] <navets> then i have <div class="inline"> wrapped around the eleents i want
[08:25] <aziz> hm
[08:25] <brendon> Biovore: Just took me since 9 this morning to figure that out... its now 23:25.
[08:25] <korupt> swing all done
[08:25] <Biovore> brendon: and now you know.. :-P
[08:26] <Biovore> most modems are just soundcards..
[08:26] <korupt> lol
[08:26] <korupt> so true
[08:27] <korupt> sound card with a tele line sound to get free service if you have a recorder :P but i dont know anything about that
[08:27] <crocodile> man this sure is a learning curve.. from photoshop to the gimp
[08:27] <intelikey> ok  why is this saying no and reporting the version....   curl --version && echo boo || echo no       looks like very sloppy coding to me.
[08:29] <intelikey> { curl --version 2>&1 ; echo $? ; } | pastebin
[08:29] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37787