[07:30] <towsonu2003> !ping and !ping
[07:30] <tzadikim> i'm still in windows land
[07:30] <Juan> hey
[07:30] <unfo> tzadikim, get edgy.
[07:30] <Farnaby> towsonu2003 according to that one its correct
[07:30] <iter> unfo: stick around
[07:30] <Juan> quick  question
[07:30] <Poseidon> so what about the EMS memery
[07:30] <tzadikim> hang on towsonu, i can't find the bug #
[07:30] <iter> unfo: that opinion will probably change ;)
[07:30] <unfo> Poseidon, what?
[07:30] <unfo> iter, oh :)
[07:31] <Poseidon> memery?
[07:31] <unfo> iter, fine, "most". :)
[07:31] <unfo> Poseidon, it requires 256 MB RAM.
[07:31] <Juan> i have my dsl connection configured on pppoeconf, but it renews ip every 12 hours
[07:31] <appen> What do you think is better. Easy Ubuntu, or Automatix
[07:31] <Poseidon> oh I got it
[07:31] <eyequeue> appen, neither, both are deprecated i believe
[07:31] <Juan> will it reconnect auto?
[07:32] <towsonu2003> Poseidon, if the computer is too old, (one with 10GB hdd & -128MB RAM would be old) try xubuntu
[07:32] <tzadikim> towsonu: i think it's bug 6367
[07:32] <Poseidon> not too much  less than XP
[07:32] <chuckyp> iter, please go to #automatix or even #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss it.
[07:32] <unfo> iter, if you go off-topic enough the ops may kick you.
[07:32] <iter> thank you mr. thought police
[07:33] <towsonu2003> Poseidon, if it can run XP, it should be able to run ubuntu
[07:33] <Shadowline> iter, try discussing it in #ubuntuforums
[07:33] <chuckyp> Poseidon, you could even install it on much lower system specs with different wms or none at all.
[07:33] <Poseidon> it can run Vista
[07:33] <chuckyp> iter, thought police?   You are speaking offtopic
[07:33] <unfo> Poseidon, I have Ubuntu on my 3-year-old slow laptop.
[07:33] <Juan> i have my dsl connection configured on pppoeconf, but it renews ip every 12 hours, will it reconnect automatically?
[07:33] <theDtTvB> Hello there, I am using Ubuntu Server, and I installed KDE.
[07:34] <theDtTvB> After that, KDE keeps prompting me to login, what should I do?
[07:34] <unfo> iter, there is no such thing as free speech on IRC. Congress guarantees you that right but Ubuntu does not. :)
[07:34] <chuckyp> theDtTvB, you log in as your user.
[07:34] <Poseidon> oh cool
[07:34] <theDtTvB> Yes.
[07:34] <Farnaby> well when i go to gnome-screensaver-preferences through command line I get the following: LibGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support cisual 0x4b | Gnome-screensaver-Message: Found best visual for GL: 0x25
[07:34] <chuckyp> Farnaby, what type of video card?
[07:34] <unfo> theDtTvB, why did you install Server?
[07:34] <nothlit> theDtTvB, you log in, or disable kdm depending on what you want to do
[07:35] <theDtTvB> I want to try it. I had Desktop already.
[07:35] <Farnaby> chuckyp: old.... matrox 400g. but its free and the ubuntu machine isn't currently my main machine
[07:35] <firebird619> What would cause Ubuntu to go throug GRUB, but then the screen goes blank and stays that way, never getting to the login screen?
[07:35] <chuckyp> Farnaby, well what is the response of glxinfo | grep render
[07:35] <chuckyp> firebird619, lots of things
[07:36] <unfo> theDtTvB, that's fair. so log in. :)
[07:36] <pc22> i need to use internet explorer and i got it using ie4linux but i cant use activex
[07:36] <jonkelle> I don't believe activex will work under wine
[07:36] <theDtTvB> The login screen shows up, I typed my username and password the screen turns black, and the login window pops up again and again.
[07:36] <chuckyp> firebird619, try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and see if you get a text console.
[07:36] <towsonu2003> tzadikim, the fix won't go to Dapper, that's for sure... if you think you're gonna bump into that, I'd go with edgy. edgy is, well, edgy :) you can also install dapper and do what this comment says: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/6367/comments/83
[07:36] <unfo> pc22, how did you plug in the pedal? USB?
[07:36] <Farnaby> just that the 3d driver claims not to support 0x4b and then hangs chuckyp
[07:36] <theDtTvB> Looks like I missed to install something...
[07:37] <pc22> its still now working unfo
[07:37] <Poseidon> unfo ,which is your first Linux sys when you knew Linux,ubuntu?redhad?XGL or else
[07:37] <chuckyp> Farnaby, if you type in "glxinfo | grep render"   in a terminal?
[07:37] <unfo> pc22, USB?
[07:37] <firebird619> chuckyp: No, I don't. This has been an ongoing problem the past couple days, it will do this and then all of a sudden work again.
[07:37] <Juan> i have my dsl connection configured on pppoeconf, but it renews ip every 12 hours. will it reconnect automatically?
[07:37] <Farnaby> chuckyp yes
[07:37] <unfo> Poseidon, it was Mandrake. I hated it.
[07:37] <Farnaby> thats what Ityped and thats what i got
[07:37] <Poseidon> why
[07:37] <tzadikim> drat, this is gonna be the third live cd download in two days
[07:37] <chuckyp> firebird619, hrm... I would suspect some faulty hardware if its working some times then not others.
[07:37] <unfo> Poseidon, no apt-get
[07:37] <pc22> usb is working but not the pedal
[07:37] <towsonu2003> tzadikim, Dapper will be supported for 3 years (desktop) while edgy will get 1,5 years (I believe). Also, edgy is designed to be more buggy then dapper (that's how their plans started)
[07:38] <unfo> Poseidon, if you want to find out what apt-get is, type: /msg ubotu apt-get
[07:38] <Poseidon> apt-get?whar is that
[07:38] <chuckyp> Farnaby, hm....  I wouldn't even know where to begin with that card for drivers.
[07:38] <Poseidon> ok
[07:38] <Xzyx987X> has anyone had any luck getting eclipse to work in 64 bit builds of kubuntu
[07:38] <Farnaby> chuckyp: me neither sadly... damn old junk
[07:38] <firebird619> chuckyp: Which piece of hardware, the PC is about 4 years old and the HDD about 1-1 1/2 years old. Would this problem be graphics or what?
[07:38] <chuckyp> Farnaby, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1687814
[07:38] <iter> nah there's definitely a matrox driver
[07:38] <Xzyx987X> I installed it from the standard package, but when I try and run it it generates a huge error log
[07:38] <unfo> pc22, type: lsusb
[07:39] <tzadikim> towsonu, so what does that mean? if i'm totally new is edgy gonna be too difficult?
[07:39] <chuckyp> firebird619, well its hard to say when it does boot you could try to check out the logs and see what failed if anything on the last boot.  Do you have another os on the machine?
[07:39] <Xzyx987X> could someone just try and install it and see if they have the same problem?
[07:39] <unfo> pc22, that's spelled ell ess you ess bee :)
[07:39] <towsonu2003> tzadikim, no, it will probably be as easy as dapper. but you may encounter bugs here and there
[07:39] <Farnaby> chucky: thanks man, google had just pulled that up as well
[07:39] <pc22> i pmed u with result
[07:39] <unfo> pc22 Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[07:39] <unfo> pc22 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[07:39] <unfo> pc22 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[07:39] <unfo> pc22 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[07:39] <unfo> pc22 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[07:40] <theDtTvB> I installed kde-base, kdelibs, kdesktop, kdm, and kubuntu-default-settings. Did I missed anuthing?
[07:40] <iter> http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/corpo/support/drivers/driverInfo.php?id=143
[07:40] <Poseidon> what is your sys now unfo? dual-boot?
[07:40] <Madpilot> unfo, pastebin!
[07:40] <tzadikim> is it just as easy to set up a dual boot?
[07:40] <unfo> pc22, hmm. i wonder what that means
[07:40] <unfo> Madpilot, sorry
[07:40] <unfo> Poseidon, yes
[07:40] <chuckyp> firebird619, most of your log files will be in /var/log   in there you will find files such as dmesg etc..  that you can look at and see what went wrong last time. Xorg.0.old   etc....
[07:40] <towsonu2003> tzadikim, let me say it this way: if the system is of *utmost* importance to you, I'd go with dapper.
[07:40] <firebird619> chuckyp: yes, Windows XP, it is on a separate HDD that isn't connected when Linux is.
[07:40] <Poseidon> which and which one
[07:40] <chuckyp> firebird619, does xp boot every time?
[07:40] <firebird619> chuckyp: Yes.
[07:41] <chuckyp> firebird619, okay well then I would start leaning towards software.  Or possibly memory if anything.
[07:41] <iter> haha
[07:41] <chuckyp> firebird619, What about the live cd.
[07:41] <unfo> pc22, I would ask in #hardware
[07:41] <tzadikim> towsonu, yeah, mostly i'm just trying to learn a bit about linux, but i intend to hold on to my windows partition for now, so i guess utmost importance wouldn't be quite true :-)
[07:41] <pc22> thanks a million
[07:41] <towsonu2003> tzadikim, then I'd go with edgy :)
[07:42] <iter> ahh got it
[07:42] <iter> of course it was included
[07:42] <iter> driver is mga
[07:42] <unfo> pc22, tell them your full lsusb output. it is probably safe to paste 5 lines in #hardware.
[07:42] <iter> Farnaby: make sure you're using mga in xorg.conf
[07:42] <Poseidon> i want to setup a Linux XGL   does it work
[07:42] <tzadikim> ok, thank you very much, i'll give it a shot
[07:42] <Farnaby> iter, I am
[07:42] <unfo> Poseidon, maybe
[07:42] <chuckyp> !xgl | Poseidon
[07:42] <ubotu> Poseidon: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:42] <eyequeue> !xgl > Poseidon
[07:43] <chuckyp> firebird619, Also are you re detecting the different hd with your bios when you change?
[07:43] <Xzyx987X> here is the full log of the eclipse problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29683/plain/
[07:44] <iter> Farnaby: sorry, looks like a bug
[07:44] <Xzyx987X> #eclipse
[07:44] <iter> Farnaby<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:44] <chuckyp> Farnaby, are you using 6.10
[07:44] <ndowens> gah, my screen won't quit moving/flickering or whatever u can see the screen kinda shake
[07:44] <unfo> ndowens, when did the problem start?
[07:44] <Farnaby> chuckyp: yes, updated to get gnomepilot working
[07:45] <iter> fortunately it's cosmetic only
[07:45] <Farnaby> iter: so it seems, they released edgy with a few issues...
[07:45] <chuckyp> Farnaby, did you check out the link i sent you earlier for a possible solution?
[07:45] <iter> well that's a mesa issue
[07:45] <omac> appen:  neither.   Edgy Eft is the best version I have had the pleasure to use and install stuff for and saw no need to use other installers.  Besides I am betting more resources have been thrown at ubuntu to make it easy to boot and install free open-source stuff.   The only thing that could make the install faster is by doing something like mirrors but each mirror could be like a torrent seed for every file in the ubuntu multi-verse.  The downl
[07:45] <omac> oad bandwidth right now is adequate, but torrent-like mirrors could make the download-bandwidth better.
[07:45] <unfo> pc22, did it work?
[07:45] <firebird619> chuckyp: It boots to Live just fine.
[07:45] <Farnaby> chuckyp: trying it now, about to restart
[07:45] <ndowens> unfo: it's been like this for a while, it's worse if the refresh rate is high
[07:45] <chuckyp> firebird619, hrm.. are you re detecting the drive in the bios when you switch and unplug the other?
[07:46] <tzadikim> hey, one more question...if i have a 64bit processor do i want to go for the 64 bit edgy?
[07:46] <unfo> ndowens, does the problem happen only in ubuntu, or other OSes too?
[07:46] <chuckyp> Farnaby, you should be able to just restart x.  ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:46] <eyequeue> tzadikim, no
[07:46] <unfo> tzadikim, I recommend the 32 bit. it's better tested.
[07:46] <ndowens> all, i am in gentoo atm, but i ordered a ubuntu cd so i am just hanging here, and wondering why that is too
[07:46] <pc22> unfo, still asking
[07:46] <chuckyp> tzadikim, you can try either or.
[07:46] <firebird619> chuckyp: BIOS detects it. I don't switch hardly at all though.  I prefer Linux over Windows.
[07:46] <ndowens> only guesses are either monitor or vid card, not sure which
[07:46] <dorto> anyone knows if Crafty(chess engine) is available in any repository that can be used in Ubuntu?
[07:47] <Farnaby> chuckyp: i am going for a fullrestart anyway since my last one was sorta messy between all the xorg modifications I was pulling to get it working correctly
[07:47] <unfo> ndowens, does it happen in DOS? Windows? in the BIOS setup screen?
[07:47] <eyequeue> !info crafty
[07:47] <ubotu> Package crafty does not exist in any distro I know
[07:47] <omac> tzadikim: yes, but do keep the 32 bit 386 kernel in your grub menu.  don't uninstall the 32-bit 386 vanilla kernel.
[07:47] <unfo> ndowens, you can get old vid cards cheap on ebay or free at www.freecycle.org
[07:47] <ndowens> i think it does it after the screen being on a while and haven't noticed it doin it in the bios setup
[07:47] <chuckyp> firebird619, hrm...  I would run an fsck on the drive make sure that tests okay.  Also run a memtest make sure that works.  If all else fails possibly try reinstalling thats just wierd.  Its very difficult to trouble shoot intermitent problems.
[07:47] <unfo> !freecycle | ndowens
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freecycle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <iter> dorto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31659
[07:47] <Farnaby> however, I will say that minus this graphics issue and minus the fact that quark has lost mp3 support/totem losing avi support, edgy is great
[07:48] <tzadikim> omac, theres nothing to uninstall, im doing a fresh linux install, hoping to dual boot with xp
[07:48] <Farnaby> the quark/totem issue seems to be just me though
[07:48] <tzadikim> do i want to test out the 32 first?
[07:48] <firebird619> chuckyp: I just did clean install of Edgy 2 days ago
[07:48] <chuckyp> tzadikim, what type of processor do you have?
[07:48] <unfo> Poseidon, do you have a Chinese IME installed? does it work in Chatzilla?
[07:48] <chuckyp> firebird619, was it working fine from the start or did this problem always occur?
[07:49] <tzadikim> dualcore amd 64 x2
[07:49] <Poseidon> IME what is it
[07:49] <unfo> Poseidon, can you type on your computer in chinese?
[07:49] <tzadikim> it sounds like everyone has a different opinion :-)
[07:49] <diesel> Does ndiswrapper come in the stock Ubuntu kernel (specifically Edgy's kernel)?
[07:49] <chuckyp> tzadikim, then you can get away with installing the amd64 package.  Or the 32bit it doesn't really matter the choice is yours.  Perhaps search the forums for some issues people have had.
[07:49] <Poseidon> of course
[07:50] <Poseidon>
[07:50] <Poseidon>
[07:50] <tzadikim> ok, thank you
[07:50] <totall_6_7> lol
[07:50] <chuckyp> tzadikim, if i'm not mistakent though I believe you can now run 32bit apps on 64bit system with 6.10
[07:50] <chuckyp> !cn
[07:50] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[07:50] <mnepton> tzadikim: if you need Flash or Win32 AV codecs, use the 32 bit version of Ubuntu
[07:51] <raghu206> !ap
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <totall_6_7> comming from years of mirc i still do double takes when i see asian characters with kvirc
[07:51] <tzadikim> oh yeah i think i'll want flash
[07:51] <firebird619> chuckyp: I had been having this problem after having Dapper installed and updating to Edgy, thats why I did the clean install to try and solve the problem, that didn't work. The problem still occured after the clean install.
[07:52] <chuckyp> firebird619, hrm.. perhaps try installing dapper and see if the problem persists.  If it does then you know a its a problem with a package in edgy.
[07:52] <Poseidon> lol  there is no one there
[07:52] <chuckyp> firebird619, which may be the case from what you are saying.
[07:52] <unfo> Poseidon, in #ubuntu-tw there are ppl there.
[07:52] <dooglus> ubuntu is based on debian.  you shouldn't need to do a clean install - you can apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade from one release to the next
[07:52] <dorto> iter, i too got a few google hits to ubuntuforums threads, but none of them are loading. is ubuntuforums.org down today?
[07:52] <chuckyp> firebird619, that should be if it doesn't
[07:52] <chuckyp> dorto, they are up.
[07:52] <iter> dorto: works here, try google cash
[07:52] <iter> err cache
[07:53] <BHSPitLappy> google checkout
[07:53] <dorto> ok
[07:53] <unfo> dorto, dunno. try the ubuntu mailing lists or google cache or http://web.archive.org instead.
[07:53] <chuckyp> firebird619, what type of system do you have?
[07:53] <firebird619> chuckyp: Yes, I could try that. Could it possibly be a driver issue, every time I start Ubuntu, when it does work, just past GRUB it shows a black screen with multiple colored dots and lines, sometimes thick white lines, multicolored lines, etc.
[07:53] <Farnaby> chuckyp, your fix worked and for that I am thankful
[07:53] <chuckyp> Farnaby, np
[07:53] <firebird619> chuckyp: I have an eMachines Desktop. 2 Ghz, Intel Built-in graphics, 256 MB Ram.
[07:54] <chuckyp> firebird619, hrm... maybe search for your model ont he forums.  Other than that I would try dapper just to make sure its a driver issue with edgy.  Most likely going to be a problem with video drivers or the kernel.
[07:55] <chuckyp> firebird619, the other thing to try would be booting with out X and see how often the system fails that way.
[07:55] <chuckyp> firebird619, then you would know if tis a video or kernel issue.
[07:56] <firebird619> chuckyp: Ok, I can try dapper again, all I really had installed extra was Beryl (which is amazing). How do I tell it to boot without X?
[07:56] <unfo> ubotu, freecycle is a set of mailing lists where you can give away things (including old hardware) for free or get things for free. get more info at freecycle.org.
[07:56] <unfo> ubotu, freecycle.org is a set of mailing lists where you can give away things (including old hardware) for free or get things for free. get more info at freecycle.org.
[07:56] <chuckyp> firebird619, yeah I would do that before try dapper
[07:57] <firebird619> chuckyp: How do I tell it to not start X? I can't get to anything really except the GRUB menu.
[07:58] <chuckyp> firebird619, okay type in runlevel to see which runlevel you are running now
[07:59] <firebird619> chuckyp: Where do I type that in, at the GRUB menu?
[07:59] <espenel> confidential
[07:59] <chuckyp> firebird619, terminal
[07:59] <towsonu2003> ?
[07:59] <chuckyp> firebird619, you can try appending init 2 to the end of the kernel line
[08:00] <iter> sheesh wouldn't it be easier to boot to single user
[08:00] <unfo> chuckyp, or: single
[08:00] <iter> linux single at grub menu
[08:00] <firebird619> chuckyp: All I can get to is the GRUB menu, how do I get to a terminal from there. Then I can append init 2 to the kernel line.
[08:00] <chuckyp> firebird619, yeah just append single to the end of the line
[08:00] <chuckyp> unfo, ty
[08:01] <unfo> chuckyp, np
[08:01] <Farnaby> well, xinelibs is still screwy, but thats an issue for manana, I gotta go get 5 hours of sleep so i can make it to work tomorrow
[08:01] <chuckyp> firebird619, do you have recovery mode as an option?
[08:01] <Farnaby> thanks again chucky
[08:01] <nothlit> firebird619, you can append it from the grub menu .. just hit e (for edit)
[08:01] <chuckyp> Farnaby, np
[08:01] <firebird619> chuckyp: Yes, I have recovery mode as an option.
[08:01] <firebird619> chuckyp: Should I go to that before appending single to the kernel line.
[08:02] <zircx> man, I don't know what the hell is going on but sites just don't seem to be coming up or resolving in the manner that they should be..
[08:02] <chuckyp> firebird619, well you can boot to recovery mode  or hit e i believe to add stuff to the end of what ever line your are currently selecting.  Then just add single at the end of the line.   Recovery mode automatically boots to single user mode so X will not start.
[08:02] <unfo> firebird619, just use recovery mode.
[08:02] <chuckyp> firebird619, if you append single to your nomral kernel line it will only be for that boot and upon restart you would have to do it again.
[08:02] <zircx> I've even gone to the extent of using opendns servers and still having problems with sites not resolving... I'm thinking that maybe it's my router now.. because I intially thought it was my ubuntu edgy
[08:03] <CuriousCat> does anyone here use ipw3945 working on edgy?
[08:03] <CuriousCat> i can't seem to get the daemon going
[08:03] <chuckyp> firebird619, if you just select recovery you could do it every time.
[08:04] <firebird619> chuckyp: So should I boot to recovery mode from now on for a while and see how often it crashes?
[08:04] <knapper> Guys, I am having a terrible time trying to get NVIDIA drivers installed properly.
[08:04] <chuckyp> firebird619, just select recovery mode.  Let it boot.  log in.  then sudo shutdown -r now   and do the same over again a few times.   And see if it hangs or crashes.
[08:04] <zircx> i click on a link which directs me to one site and a totally different site comes up, e.g i click on a forum link and i get www.imageshack.us coming up instead but it still fails to connect?
[08:04] <zircx> has anyone had a problem like this before..
[08:04] <Kawaii-Panda> the forums are down today isn't it?
[08:04] <chuckyp> firebird619, yeah thats the idea.  Then we will know if its a problem with X or some sort of driver issue.
[08:04] <varsendaggar> knapper,  go to the ubuntulinux.com   web site,   then click on the wiki and search for nvidia
[08:05] <firebird619> chuckyp: I didn't have to log in, it automatically logged in as root.
[08:05] <spanglesontoast> erm does anyone know why fglrx doesn't seem to work on edgy properly ?
[08:05] <chuckyp> zircx, DNS issues
[08:05] <unfo> spanglesontoast, it is working badly for you? please elaborate.
[08:05] <chuckyp> firebird619, okay just shutdown -r now
[08:05] <unfo> !smart questions
[08:05] <chuckyp> firebird619, and try again make sure you can do it a few times.
[08:05] <zircx> chuckyp, I thought as much.. but I've got my router using opendns.. wouldn't that help resolve the dns problem, or would it relate more to my isp dns ?
[08:06] <unfo> all: should I put the smart-questions link into ubotu?
[08:06] <spanglesontoast> well it doesn't seem to enable 3d accell
[08:06] <firebird619> chuckyp: Ok, will do and see wat happens.
[08:06] <firebird619> *what
[08:06] <knapper> varsendagger, I am getting a version mismatch error. API mismatch.
[08:06] <knapper> I cannot install the nvidia drivers or nvidia-glx, neither work
[08:06] <knapper> when I change nv to nvidia
[08:06] <spanglesontoast> I'm just wondering if this is because I was using the k7 kernel now using the latest one provided with edgy
[08:07] <iter> knapper: gotta have appropriate restricted-modules as well'
[08:07] <knapper> iter I do
[08:07] <iter> so xserver dies?
[08:07] <zircx> knapper, are you using synaptic to install the nvidia drivers?
[08:08] <knapper> I tried synaptic and the nvidia installer
[08:08] <spanglesontoast> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". ?
[08:08] <chuckyp> zircx, you could ifconfig and see who's dns you are using
[08:08] <knapper> I can install it fine, but when I try to use it, that is when it doesn't work
[08:08] <firebird619> chuckyp: restarted three times to recovery mode and so far so good. No problems.
[08:08] <iter> since when does ifconfig return dns
[08:08] <knapper> when I edit xorg.conf and change nv to nvidia
[08:08] <knapper> startx
[08:08] <chuckyp> zircx, i'm not really good at fixing dns issues
[08:08] <knapper> I get something about API mismatch
[08:09] <chuckyp> zircx, perhaps someone else may know more.
[08:09] <knapper> kernel and the module are from different drivers
[08:09] <yakumo> how do i play .mkv format? im using mplayer
[08:09] <chuckyp> firebird619, What type of video card do you have?
[08:09] <zircx> chuckyp, the eth0 is configured as a static that uses the router as a gateway
[08:09] <towsonu2003> knapper, I guess you installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia site?
[08:09] <firebird619> chuckyp: Intel Built-in i810.
[08:09] <chuckyp> zircx, yeah I can't remember how to show which dns servers you are using.
[08:10] <zircx> the router is configured to use opendns servers.. somethings not right though.. weirdly  enough..
[08:10] <knapper> towsonu2003 at one point I have
[08:10] <chuckyp> firebird619, okay try booting to recovery mode and editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing your video driver to vesa
[08:10] <zircx> oh hang on ..
[08:10] <iter> zircx: you have the problem in firefox and not mozilla, right?
[08:10] <iter> zircx: if so it's not a dns issue
[08:10] <iter> unless you got some crazy hosts files
[08:10] <azureal> hi, sudo modprobe intel8x0 just freezes
[08:10] <zircx> iter, I had the problem in firefox, I haven't used mozilla  but I did earlier on and it was doing the same..
[08:11] <zircx> iter, is there a problem with firefox?
[08:11] <iter> zircx: no
[08:11] <firebird619> chuckyp: do I change the line that says Driver        "i810" to vesa?
[08:11] <firebird619> to read Driver     "vesa"
[08:11] <towsonu2003> knapper, you'll have to reinstall it
[08:11] <towsonu2003> knapper, I believe
[08:11] <zircx> I actually did a fresh install because i had issues with xserver..(long story) also..
[08:11] <zircx> so it's a fresh install
[08:11] <iter> zircx: first off lets get you using isp's dns
[08:12] <zircx> ok, I'll change back
[08:12] <knapper> towsonu2003 I have tried, it fails
[08:12] <iter> zircx: you have a router right
[08:12] <knapper> towsonu2003 It say it cannot compile a kernel or something to that effect
[08:12] <iter> zircx: does it get ip via dhcp ?
[08:12] <towsonu2003> knapper, maybe it cannot find the kernel headers?
[08:12] <KenSentMe> How can i see the list of users currently in a channel in irssi?
[08:12] <zircx> no, I've changed it to static, but yes it can do dhcp
[08:12] <iter> KenSentMe: /who
[08:12] <chuckyp> firebird619, yes
[08:13] <towsonu2003> knapper, this command: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:13] <iter> zircx: that's fine, as long as you know the dns is correct for your isp
[08:13] <KenSentMe> iter: thanks
[08:13] <firebird619> chuckyp: Ok, after that is edited do I try booting normally?
[08:13] <towsonu2003> knapper, that should install everything you need. then try reinstalling again
[08:13] <iter> zircx: setup dns server in router
[08:13] <knapper> build-essential is already the newest version
[08:13] <iter> zircx: then point /etc/resolv.conf to router ip
[08:13] <knapper> :/
[08:13] <chuckyp> firebird619, well you can try startx
[08:13] <chuckyp> firebird619, see if it atleast loads x
[08:13] <firebird619> chuckyp: Ok
[08:14] <towsonu2003> knapper, kernel headers? what was that package's name?
[08:14] <zircx> well the eth0 on this machine is setup as a static ip with the router as the gateway.. the router is setup to use the dns of the isp
[08:14] <AdamKili> can someone help? what package do i need to (re)install?
[08:14] <AdamKili> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.6.0... no
[08:14] <AdamKili> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[08:14] <AdamKili> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[08:14] <AdamKili> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[08:14] <AdamKili> configure: error: maybe you want the gtk-gnome-1-2 branch?
[08:14] <Kawaii-Panda> is anyone  unable to access ubuntuforums today too?
[08:14] <chuckyp> !paste > AdamKili
[08:14] <iter> zircx: sounds good
[08:14] <zircx> iter, yes resolv.conf is pointing to router..
[08:14] <chuckyp> Kawaii-Panda, yes someone else was having issues but i'm not
[08:14] <unfo> Kawaii-Panda, use google cache instead maybe?
[08:14] <firebird619> chuckyp: Yes, it started X. I am at Ubuntu's Desktop now.
[08:14] <chuckyp> firebird619, okay restart and try a normal boot using the vesa driver.
[08:14] <zircx> ok brb have to reboot the router
[08:15] <AdamKili> chuchyp it wasn't that big
[08:15] <knapper> towsonu2003 I don't recall. How can I find it?
[08:15] <towsonu2003> knapper, what's the output of uname -r for you?
[08:15] <chuckyp> AdamKili, what are you trying to rebuild?
[08:15] <firebird619> chuckyp: Ok. Could this be the cause of my problem, a driver issue. I Hope. :-)
[08:15] <knapper> 2.6.17-10-386
[08:15] <chuckyp> firebird619, possibly issues with the i810 driver
[08:16] <chuckyp> firebird619, or somethign to do with compiz etc...
[08:16] <towsonu2003> knapper, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-10
[08:16] <AdamKili> gnome-python-2.16.0 it's required for gDesklets
[08:16] <firebird619> chuckyp: I don't have an option to restart, only Logout, Lock Screen, and Switch User.
[08:16] <thee3> how do i play a vcd?
[08:16] <towsonu2003> knapper, better yet: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386
[08:16] <chuckyp> firebird619, okay ctrl+alt+f1
[08:16] <knapper> linux-headers-2.6.17-10 is already the newest version
[08:16] <chuckyp> firebird619, or open a terminal and shutdown -r now
[08:17] <firebird619> chuckyp: Did that, shows errors on that screen.
[08:17] <knapper> done
[08:17] <towsonu2003> knapper, ok, what's the output of ls -l /usr/src/linux
[08:17] <chuckyp> AdamKili, why don't you just install gdesklets from the repos?
[08:17] <knapper> no such directory
[08:17] <chuckyp> firebird619, hrm.. well if you ctrl+alt+f1  do you get a text terminal?
[08:17] <towsonu2003> knapper, ok, just a second
[08:18] <axisys> anyone here install ubuntu on sun coolthreads? T2000?
[08:18] <w4zz> What happends when i have installed edgy and i open firefox and no matter what address i type i come in <IP_ADDRESS> -> ergogroup? :S
[08:18] <chuckyp> axisys, perhaps search the forums.
[08:18] <totall_6_7> chuckyp: tell them how to get back (if they dont know) :P
[08:18] <rufi> help: my USB drive is reported to be 90% full eventhough there is no file in it!!! (no hidden files). Seems that the filesystem is damaged. How do I repair it?
[08:18] <chuckyp> totall_6_7, ?
[08:18] <AdamKili> chuchyp: that's a good question. another is y wasn't it there when i searched for it earlier? a good answer might be i misspelled it. lol.
[08:18] <firebird619> chuckyp: Well, I guess it is the same error, only repeated on the screen, Error opening device /dev/wacom. Also, Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/. It brings me to the text terminal, just nowhere to type anything.
[08:19] <thee3> how do i play a vcd? I can play all the other video formats.
[08:19] <ndowens> unfo so what should i do
[08:19] <chuckyp> !info-gdesklets | AdamKili
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info-gdesklets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <azureal> lol...comprehensive sound guide has killed my sound..
[08:19] <totall_6_7> chuckyp:  someone said that and i had no idea how to get back
[08:19] <unfo> ndowens, please ask the whole channel, not just me :)
[08:19] <chuckyp> firebird619, okay ctrl+z in the terminal  then bg then shutdown -r now
[08:19] <w4zz> What happends when i have installed edgy and i open firefox and no matter what address i type i come in <IP_ADDRESS> -> ergogroup? :S
[08:19] <ndowens> any one know what makes a screen kinda bounce a lil
[08:19] <chuckyp> totall_6_7, I have no idea what you are talking about.
[08:20] <totall_6_7> nm :)
[08:20] <firebird619> chuckyp: Ok, did that, will wait and see what happens on normal boot.
[08:20] <unfo> w4zz, if you ask and nobody answers, please make the question longer and more detailed and more gramatically clear before re-asking :)
[08:20] <chuckyp> !info - gdesklets
[08:20] <towsonu2003> knapper, hopefully, it will be: sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10 /usr/src/linux
[08:20] <w4zz> unfo okey
[08:20] <unfo> ndowens, try a new video card or a new monitor :)
[08:20] <AdamKili> chuchyp: thanks for having me look twice and not have to compile
[08:20] <towsonu2003> knapper, warnings coming now:
[08:20] <chuckyp> AdamKili, np
[08:20] <firebird619> chuckyp: If it is a driver issue with the i810 driver, what do I do for a driver, use Vesa, or is there another alternative i810 driver?
[08:20] <towsonu2003> knapper, wait for a second, someone may see if it's wrong. also, copy paste the command so you won't make typos
[08:21] <towsonu2003> knapper, then try reinstalling the nvidia drivers again
[08:21] <chuckyp> AdamKili, you can search ubotu by sending it a message info packagename it will tell you if it exists int he repos and where.
[08:21] <firebird619> chuckyp: It booted normally, I was able to login and everything.
[08:21] <thee3> Anyone??
[08:21] <phab> forums are down :(
[08:21] <chuckyp> firebird619, okay how idd you install the i810 driver
[08:22] <AdamKili> chuchyp: cool thanks
[08:22] <chuckyp> !info gdesklets | AdamKili
[08:22] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB
[08:22] <chuckyp> AdamKili, see
[08:22] <phab> !compiz
[08:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:22] <sparr> What major commercial game titles are coming out for linux in the 'near' future, other than ET:QW and Savage2?
[08:22] <Adriano> Ok people, I need to do your worst to crash my Gaim. So get at it
[08:22] <rufi> help: my USB drive is reported to be 90% full eventhough there is no file in it!!! (no hidden files). Seems that the filesystem is damaged. How do I repair it? (anyone?)
[08:22] <chuckyp> AdamKili, another way to search the repos is to use synaptic or apt-cache search packagename
[08:22] <AdamKili> yep
[08:23] <phab> rufi, check if it has a .Trash folder
[08:23] <w4zz> I have newly installed Ubuntu Edgy 6.10. And when i open my firefox, it looks like i have noe net. i come to this ipaddress: <IP_ADDRESS> and it stands something about ergogroup. Like a login.
[08:23] <rufi> phab: no .Trash
[08:23] <firebird619> chuckyp: I didn't install any specific driver. It is what installed with Edgy. I take back that it booted normally, soon after I logged in, it took me to a blank screen, and when I type it shows weird symbols.
[08:23] <Adriano> rufi: in nautilus, enable "show hidden files"
[08:23] <unfo> w4zz, what does it "stand about ergogroup"? we do not understand :)
[08:23] <sparr> oh, and UT2007
[08:23] <chuckyp> firebird619, hrm...
[08:23] <knapper> towsonu2003 I will give it a try, thanks!
[08:23] <chuckyp> firebird619, do you experience artifacts in windows?
[08:24] <smoenux> can anyone tell me where to find info on Port Forwarding on my Router??
[08:24] <w4zz> nothing.. its topic: ergogroup and then its a login under the topic
[08:24] <rufi> Adriano: nothing... ls -a gives nothing
[08:24] <firebird619> chuckyp: No, not that I have ever noticed anyway, but like I said, I am do not boot to Windows very much at all.
[08:24] <chuckyp> firebird619, I would try windows and see if you are experiencing artifacts in your video.
[08:24] <iter> smoenux: portforward.com
[08:24] <chuckyp> firebird619, if that is the case that is a tell tale sign of bad video card memory.
[08:24] <Adriano> rufi, then, which filesystem is it formatted with? vfat?
[08:24] <smoenux> iter, thanks
[08:24] <nothlit> Does anyone know what the difference between free and available space in gnome system monitor tab filesystem is?
[08:25] <Gumby> chuckyp: are you sure he is talking about visual artifacts and not a bad keyboard layout?  "shows weird symbols"
[08:25] <chuckyp> smoenux, the website for your router.
[08:25] <unfo> nothlit, try F1 key for help
[08:25] <chuckyp> Gumby, yes
[08:25] <w4zz> unfo: nothing.. its topic: ergogroup and then its a login under the topic
[08:25] <pc22> anyone using ies4linux now?
[08:25] <firebird619> chuckyp: And this is built-in Intel, so I would just have to disable it in BIOS and get a PCI video card, if that is the problem.
[08:25] <chuckyp> Gumby, ahh maybe not
[08:25] <tortho> Hi, can anyone explain what this is: " hw_random: cannot enable RNG, aborting" thanks!
[08:25] <knapper> towsonu2003, still didn't work :(
[08:25] <knapper> any other ideas?
[08:25] <chuckyp> firebird619, hold on when you type you get wierd symbols?
[08:26] <nothlit> unfo, i looked in the yelp system
[08:26] <unfo> nothlit, oh. :( dunno
[08:26] <thee3> Isn't it possible to play VCD in ubuntu?
[08:26] <iter> tortho: RNG = random number generator
[08:26] <Gumby> hehe, his video card cant render US English  :P
[08:26] <unfo> thee3, it is possible
[08:26] <iter> fwiw, which aint' much
[08:26] <chuckyp> firebird619, but everything else looks okay?
[08:26] <towsonu2003> knapper, what's the output of the error message?
[08:26] <firebird619> chuckyp: yes, like /s and diamonds, etc.
[08:26] <knapper> hang on
[08:26] <unfo> thee3, what languages do you speak?
[08:26] <tortho> iter: so what is this error then... get it everytime i boot eft
[08:26] <rufi> Adriano: yes, vfat
[08:26] <towsonu2003> !paste > knapper
[08:26] <unfo> w4zz, are you at home? maybe you're in a captive portal?
[08:26] <chuckyp> firebird619, okay reboot into recovery mode and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   we are going to select the proper keyboard layout.
[08:26] <thee3> unfo: eh? English..
[08:27] <chuckyp> firebird619, or youc an switch to text terminal and do it.
[08:27] <thee3> unfo and hindi
[08:27] <w4zz> unfo i'm at work.. and we are not ergo group...
[08:27] <unfo> thee3, #ubuntu is not the best channel for VCD help: I would try the hindi channel.
[08:27] <unfo> !hi
[08:27] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:27] <Adriano> rufi: have you tried it on other computers, or at least on Windows?
[08:27] <unfo> !hindi
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hindi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <pc22> unfo, didnt work
[08:27] <chuckyp> firebird619, ctrl+alt+f1  then login sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:27] <SizzlerWA> Howdy.
[08:27] <tortho> iter: i can see after google'ing for a while that a lot of people have it, but havn't found any explain...
[08:27] <unfo> pc22, sorry. try the Ubuntu Forums.
[08:27] <knapper> towsonu2003 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29685/
[08:27] <firebird619> chuckyp: No, there isn't anything else to look ok, it is just a blank screen. I had rebooted and it did the same thing, shortly after login, only when I type now, nothing shows up. It switches to black right after it shows Beryl loading.
[08:27] <iter> tortho: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/hardware-RNG/index.html
[08:27] <mygod> I'm use hiweed
[08:28] <pc22> for now will try to make ie4linux work with activex
[08:28] <nothlit> unfo, its just theres a difference of 10 gigs between free space and available space and i think thats pretty significant
[08:28] <unfo> !vcd | thee3
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <chuckyp> firebird619, well beryl is possibly messing with us as well.  You may want to try uninstalling that so we can eliminate that.
[08:28] <unfo> thee3, try looking for VCD in Applications menu > Add/Remove
[08:28] <tortho> iter: thanks a lot!!
[08:28] <rufi> Adriano: well I could format/scandisk it on windows but it will have to wait until evening... Currently there's only linux here :). Any tips?
[08:28] <thee3> unfo: i can play all other formats.
[08:28] <unfo> nothlit, i have no clue. ask again here or try channel #gnome :)
[08:29] <cyphase> :P
[08:29] <nothlit> unfo, ahh kk ty
[08:29] <unfo> w4zz, i dunno. maybe google "Ergo Group"?
[08:29] <firebird619> chuckyp: Ok, I can try uninstalling Beryl :-(. Should I still enter that command you gave me thought.
[08:29] <firebird619> *though
[08:29] <Adriano> rufi: I meant, check if the problem still exists on other computers - operating systems
[08:29] <w4zz> okey.. i try a little more... thnx for the try unfo :)
[08:29] <zircx> urhm, i guess you can't override the server dns even if you're using opendns due to backward compatibility
[08:30] <Adriano> rufi: before reformatting, to rule out a bug
[08:30] <chuckyp> firebird619, well remove beryl first and see how the system acts.  IF its acting screwey come back here.
[08:30] <iter> zircx: how's that ?
[08:30] <zircx> buggy beta nvidia drivers and beryl!
[08:30] <firebird619> chuckyp: Is that sudo apt-get uninstall beryl-manager?
[08:30] <kleinlappies> hello
[08:30] <towsonu2003> knapper, sorry, I won't be able to help with that one. I dunno what "initialization from incompatible pointer type" means while reinstalling the nvidia driver... For anyone who have an idea: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29685/
[08:30] <zircx> not much better iter
[08:30] <zircx> I believe it is a isp dns issue..
[08:30] <kleinlappies> can anyone tell me if there is a good backup program for thunderbird.
[08:30] <iter> zircx: open a terminal and type 'host google.com'
[08:31] <tortho> any bluetooth / gnome experts here? my mobile fails straight away when trying to connect, pc does not see any devices, but devices does see pc..
[08:31] <zircx> even using opendns they still have to resolve from one host back to the isp host..
[08:31] <ndowens> towsonu2003: i've seen that error when installing some programs
[08:31] <iter> zircx: your isp's dns is probably working fine
[08:31] <ndowens> but dunno what it means, it is some compile error than dns
[08:31] <zircx> google.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:31] <zircx> google.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:31] <zircx> google.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:31] <zircx> ;; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet.
[08:31] <zircx> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[08:31] <iter> zircx: also do 'dig google.com'
[08:32] <chuckyp> firebird619, well I would look at whatever directions you followed to install it and go in reverse order.  Or possibly ask in #ubuntu-xgl they will be able to help a lot more.
[08:32] <Regurgitator> i have 2 pcs each with ati video cards, one radeon and one older onboard model, when i go to install ubuntu up to the menu the loading screen where you see a bar go back and forth sort of like win xp i can see everything great, but then as soon as its done loading the screen is intirely unreadable, i see like 5 or 6 mouse pointers and its like it would be set to a wrong resolution, and i already have tried setting it to different
[08:32] <ndowens> zircx: try ping yahoo.com if it says it can't resolv it then most likely it is a dns issue
[08:32] <knapper> towsonu2003, well thanks anyway. :)
[08:32] <towsonu2003> knapper, sorry...
[08:32] <diesel> So I have a brand spanking new Edgy.  When I modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/...ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid Argument.  ANy suggestions?
[08:32] <firebird619> chuckyp: Ok, and after that, do I continue with the vesa driver or switch back to i810 after uninstalling Beryl.
[08:32] <zircx> ndowens, that works ok
[08:33] <SizzlerWA> I want to join an Ubuntu Dev team --- any suggestions?
[08:33] <LainNaomi> anyone knows about Plan 9 from bell lab?
[08:33] <chuckyp> firebird619, try the vesa driver  that should work.  Then you could edit the file and try using the i810 driver and see how it acts.
[08:33] <zircx> firebird619, what video card are you using?
[08:33] <Adriano> SizzlerWA: you should search some project that interests you
[08:33] <zircx> oh i810 driver..
[08:33] <mygod> is there any tools for read *.chm
[08:33] <LainNaomi> xchm
[08:33] <mygod> chm
[08:33] <diesel> mygod: xchm
[08:33] <zircx> haven't touched a machine that old in four years.. plus..
[08:33] <Adriano> or some project that desperately asks for help
[08:33] <mygod> thank you
[08:34] <firebird619> zircx: Intel built-in i810.
[08:34] <brocoli> i install ubuntu 6.10 and don't have a console. how i can install it?
[08:34] <Adriano> LainNaomi: I do know a bit about Plan9, I installed it here
[08:34] <Adriano> what's the issue?
[08:34] <diesel> Edgy Eft has been a big disappointment
[08:34] <LainNaomi> I can't get my usb mouse working:p
[08:34] <iter> zircx: next thing to try is put your isp dns in /etc/resolv.conf in place of router dns
[08:34] <firebird619> zircx: Gee, thanks. : - ). The system is about 4 years old.
[08:34] <Adriano> diesel: http://theinside-out.blogspot.com/2006/10/en-its-called-edgy-for-reason.html
[08:35] <tortho> diesel: yupp..... what's new in it?... :-(
[08:35] <zircx> sorry man, I could help ya if you had nvidia card..
[08:35] <Adriano> LainNaomi: and it surprises you?
[08:35] <diesel> tortho: all the crap that doesn't work, is new
[08:35] <zircx> I installed it beryl / emerald  / nvidia / kiba-dock the other day.
[08:35] <tortho> diesel:  yupp as i was about to write: except for more problems with hardware
[08:35] <LainNaomi> no not really I really know little about it
[08:35] <zircx> ok
[08:36] <zircx> iter, , the primary dns or both or all?
[08:36] <Adriano> LainNaomi: it's a research project, lots of good ideas, not the best implementation
[08:36] <brocoli> how i can use pppoeconf without console?
[08:36] <diesel> Anyone have success modprobe'ing ndiswrapper?
[08:36] <firebird619> zircx: thats fine, I know it is old. I have another system, Dell 3.2 Ghz with Nvidia FX5200, but need Windows on that for now for college work, etc. I've always had bad luck with Dual boot, thats why I use separate HDDs for everything.
[08:36] <tortho> anyone got bluetooth working in gnome? what did you set up to make it work?
[08:36] <Adriano> for that, you could try Inferno, but It Is Not Ubuntu (TM)
[08:36] <Regurgitator> does anyone know how i could solve this as i would really like to try out ubuntu but these display limitations are preventing me
[08:36] <iter> zircx: for testing remove the secondary (comment it out)
[08:37] <thee3> unfo: still there?
[08:37] <iter> zircx: change primary dns to isp dns
[08:37] <zircx> k
[08:37] <pradeep> can i execute commands on a remote machine through a shell script?
[08:37] <iter> pradeep: yes, through ssh
[08:37] <mseve> !samba
[08:37] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:37] <LainNaomi> Yeah I haven't figure out what's special about it and I'm reading the manual at present
[08:37] <Firefishe> Hello..first time here.  Does ubuntu support xen?
[08:38] <iter> yes
[08:38] <KenSentMe> !xen | Firefishe
[08:38] <ubotu> Firefishe: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[08:38] <zircx> nameserver dns.server.ip.address ? yeah
[08:38] <iter> zircx: yes
[08:38] <rufi> Adriano: ok, I'll do it and if there is indeed a bug, i'll report it
[08:38] <zircx> ok done
[08:38] <pradeep> iter, can i directly place the commands in the script?
[08:38] <iter> please do 'dig google.com'
[08:38] <firebird619> How do I uninstall a package from a terminal, is it sudo apt-get uninstall packagename?
[08:38] <zircx> firebird619, bummer, i don't use windows at all these days..
[08:38] <Adriano> rufi: good. remember to check if it hasn't been reported before
[08:39] <KenSentMe> firebird619: sudo apt-get remove package
[08:39] <Firefishe> one more q.  pbly the most important:  where can I get 1.  a current dvd release of Dapper and 2.  a supplemental cd/dvd of the edgy upgrade?
[08:39] <firebird619> zircx: believe me, I wouldn't either if I didn't have college work that required Windows.
[08:39] <zircx> I'm trying to get comfortable with ubuntu as a desktop
[08:39] <firebird619> KenSentMe: Thanks
[08:39] <tortho> firebird619: isnt it remove?
[08:39] <ndowens> why is it a issue that u aren't suppose to apt debian pckages in ubuntu
[08:39] <iter> pradeep: http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_network/x-087-2-appl.remote.html
[08:39] <iter> firebird619: apt-get remove package
[08:39] <firebird619> iter: Thank You.
[08:40] <brocoli> i dont have console in edgy
[08:40] <pradeep> ter, thanks a ton ! :)
[08:40] <zircx> oh you can get Xen on Edgy?
[08:40] <Adriano> Firefishe: that's a) 2 questions, b) I don't know c) neither d) why would you need one? there's been no updates yet
[08:40] <iter> np ssh rules
[08:40] <zircx> has anyone used it successfully and how good is it?
[08:40] <pradeep> :)
[08:40] <KenSentMe> Firefishe: check http://www.ubuntu.com/download. There should be a dvd download and an Edgy cd
[08:40] <iter> xen is cool but vmware is still the gold standard
[08:40] <firebird619> chuckyp: I uninstalled beryl now, am restarting and will see what happens.
[08:41] <KenSentMe> Firefishe: there's no update cd for upgrading from dapper to edgy
[08:41] <zircx> erm, they were saying that xen out did vmware benchmark wise
[08:41] <KenSentMe> !upgrade | Firefishe
[08:41] <ubotu> Firefishe: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[08:41] <iter> zircx: yeah but mgmt wise esx server is waaay better than xen
[08:41] <iter> atm
[08:41] <dooglus> nothlit: the difference between 'free' and 'available' in gnome-system-monitor is that 'free' is what's available to the superuser, and 'available' is what's available to regular users.
[08:42] <zircx> iter, i take it those changes happen immediately on resolv.conf
[08:42] <dooglus> nothlit: some filesystems keep some percentage (10%?) of the disk reserved just for root to use
[08:42] <iter> yes
[08:42] <zircx> iter, yeah but you have to pay for that don't you.
[08:42] <iter> ooooohhhh yeah
[08:42] <iter> lots of $
[08:42] <vik> I've just tried moving up to flash 9 beta, but about:plugins in firefox still says I have version 7 installed. I put libplashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[08:42] <Adriano> KenSentMe: there's no dvd link either at canonical's servers or at the Uni Utah servers
[08:42] <daywalker> g'day! I  installed dapper, had no internt - so I got edgy - still no internet....but a win pc works off that same adsl modem? What gives?
[08:42] <iter> zircx: same issue?
[08:43] <iter> zircx: please issue 'dig google.com'
[08:43] <zircx> so far it's pretty good
[08:43] <Adriano> I guess that means a "there ain't no dvd for Edgy out yet"
[08:43] <fnf> vik: Not everyone has root permission, it's more natural to put it under your .mozilla/plugins/
[08:43] <KenSentMe> Adriano: i believed there where torrents of the dvd release
[08:43] <nothlit> dooglus, how do i fix it? its an old gentoo partition
[08:43] <zircx> much better :)
[08:43] <dooglus> nothlit: fix what?
[08:43] <KenSentMe> Adriano: maybe there won't be any dvd's for edgy
[08:43] <zircx> got a full print out that time..
[08:43] <Adriano> meh
[08:43] <nothlit> dooglus, how do i unreserve that space
[08:43] <daywalker> g'day! I  installed dapper, had no internet - so I got edgy - still no internet....but a win pc works off that same adsl modem? What gives?
[08:43] <Adriano> I did try a search
[08:43] <zircx> iter, thanks..
[08:43] <vik> fnf: that's where is was before, and should work from there for all users, no?
[08:43] <fnf> vik: And make sure the flash 7 plugin is uninstalled, this sometimes cause problem.
[08:44] <zircx> lets hope that holds up..
[08:44] <iter> yep glad you're working
[08:44] <vik> fnf: yeah did that
[08:44] <dooglus> nothlit: what filesystem is it?  (run "mount" to find out)
[08:44] <nothlit> ext3
[08:44] <zircx> now I've got to add all my bling back on
[08:44] <fnf> vik: Yes, but if you're the only user in the system, it makes more sense to put it in your home folder.
[08:44] <zircx> edgy edgy edgy
[08:44] <daywalker> also i can ping web addresses fine
[08:44] <vik> fnf: not the only user
[08:44] <koresko> Just got an old iMac and want to install xubuntu Edgy.  The machine boots the CD but the installer crashes.
[08:44] <Ademan> where does apt keep downloaded but not installed packages?
[08:44] <Adriano> is anyone else experiencing Epiphany crashing when you close it and Gmail is the last page on it? for me, Bug-buddy is always called
[08:45] <iter> wrote this humdinger with a dislocated bling finger
[08:45] <Ademan> koresko: try the alternate install?
[08:45] <nothlit> dooglus, does ubuntu behave this way as well? even if root and home are on different partitions?
[08:45] <daywalker> where can i look if my internet connection isint working in edgy?
[08:45] <fnf> vik: If you insist, try putting it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/, this is not guaranteed to work though.
[08:45] <iter> Ademan: /var/cache/apt ?
[08:45] <koresko> Ademan: I'm downloading the alternate CD now, but it's got most of another hour to go.  Any idea if there's a way to start the textmode installer from the console with the regular CD?
[08:45] <coz_> daywalker, sustem administrator net work or
[08:45] <Ademan> daywalker: what do you mean not working?
[08:45] <coz_> ifconfig in the terminal
[08:46] <coz_> daywalker, or ifconfig in the terminal or iwsonfig if it is wireless
[08:46] <mygod> where dir... change  deb source  from ubuntu
[08:46] <daywalker> i cant browse, wont open a web page
[08:46] <coz_> daywalker, iwconfig
[08:46] <fnf> vik: The difference is that we never know what the binary flash 7 package did to our system without a monitor.
[08:46] <coz_> daywalker, are you on that machine now?
[08:46] <Ademan> koresko: if there was you would probably want to ctrl+alt+f1 into a virtual terminal, maybe there's a script somewhere, browse the install cd's file system maybe there is an installer
[08:46] <daywalker> no im on another machine
[08:47] <dooglus> nothlit: ext3 reserves 5% of the partition for root's use.  apparently it's changable when you format the fs, but I don't know.  I use reiserfs personally, which doesn't reserve and space for root.
[08:47] <dooglus> nothlit: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215177
[08:47] <firebird619> I just uninstalled Beryl, yet when Ubuntu Starts and I log in, Beryl starts, it goes to a black screen that is running fschk and then brings me back to Ubuntu login screen. What can I do?
[08:47] <iter> stabbyfs
[08:47] <zircx> i take it wiki.ubuntu is down...
[08:47] <coz_> daywalker, ok did you ifconfig or iwconfig in the terminal to see if you are connected
[08:47] <vik> fnf: huh? the install script is quite simple.
[08:47] <Regurgitator> is there something i can do to stabilize the screen with my ati card so that i can install ubuntu? i tried both 640X480 and 800X600 resolutions which are resolutions i already know worked on windows
[08:47] <koresko> Ademan: Thanks.  I did ctrl-alt-f1 and have a console.  Killed X so I have a bit of ram free.  Just need to find the textmode installer, if there is one on the CD...
[08:48] <daywalker> no that machine is at another location Im home now reading up on it to fix tomorrow
[08:48] <mygod> who can give me a source for install xchm
[08:48] <KenSentMe> koresko: i don think there is a text mode installer on the regular cd
[08:48] <iter> I like filesystems
[08:48] <iter> stuff like xfs is cool
[08:48] <Ademan> koresko: yeah i dunno if there's one
[08:48] <coz_> daywalker,i see
[08:48] <iter> but as far as putting data I care about on em ...
[08:48] <Ademan> xfs doesnt like GRUB though :-(
[08:48] <daywalker> coz, the same thing happened with dapper
[08:49] <ndowens> i am not having a problem
[08:49] <fnf> vik: Ahh, I forgot there's a downloadable package, of course. You may put it under /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ to see if it works, I'd recommend to work within your home though.
[08:49] <daywalker> thats the reason i got edgy
[08:49] <Madpilot> zircx, seems like it's more than just the wiki; I can't get to www.ubuntu.com or planet.ubuntu.com either
[08:49] <daywalker> if i connect another pc on it, winxp it works
[08:49] <KenSentMe> mygod: xchm is in the repo's
[08:49] <KenSentMe> !info xchm
[08:49] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.9-3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 944 kB
[08:49] <coz_> daywalker, mmm that is odd, what is your machine, specs... cpu, memory,, manufacutere, home built???
[08:49] <koresko> Bummer - hate to have to download all over again to get the text installer.  But it's probably easier than installing without one ;)
[08:49] <dooglus> nothlit: see "man mkfs.ext3" - specifically the -m flag.
[08:49] <zircx> Madpilot, erm bummer, well at least it wasn't my dns issue..
[08:50] <ndowens> Ademan: i am not having a problem with XFS+grub
[08:50] <vik> fnf: put it in home as well, but now about:plugins shows both 9 and 7 installed. I can't work out where version 7 is coming from. Is there a search path for firefox plugins somwhere/
[08:50] <Ademan> ndowens: maybe they fixed it i dunno
[08:50] <Madpilot> zircx, not unless my roommate's flaky router has also flaked out again :|
[08:50] <fnf> vik: What did you install flash 7 with ?.
[08:50] <brocoli> how i can configure pppoe without console?
[08:50] <daywalker> quite old, 256MB ram, pentium 3 733 i think, change network cards in it too just incase
[08:50] <ndowens> it had a problem with the older i forget what version where it didn't/couldn't understand it, but it has been fixed
[08:51] <nothlit> dooglus, i followed that link you gave me and fixed it... thanks a lot! :D
[08:51] <dooglus> nothlit: see also "man tune2fs" - the -m flag again.  I don't know how compatible tune2fs is with ext3 filesystems though.  someone else here might know.
[08:51] <vik> fnf: flashplugin-nonfree package. But have uninstalled that now. AFAIK it just downloads the plugin, extracts it into the plugins directory
[08:51] <daywalker> coz, so u reckon ifconfig?im not on a wireless connection
[08:51] <nothlit> dooglus, yeah i used tune2fs and it worked
[08:51] <dooglus> nothlit: ok
[08:52] <koresko> nonthlit: tune2fs is the standard tool for manipulating ext3.  You just have to make sure you have a relatively modern version.
[08:52] <coz_> daywalker, well it should work but no way for me to know unless i ws there acutally.. I have several old machines i have installed edgy on on is an AMD k7 with 256 megs mem it works fine so off hand... I couldn't tell what theproblem is unless you were able to be at the machine whiles you are in here as well
[08:52] <nothlit> dooglus, the man page for tune2fs says its for both ext2 and ext3
[08:52] <poquedoraqu> Well, i need to quit tampering with linux without researching first
[08:52] <koresko> I used tune2fs to turn on data journaling, for example.
[08:52] <fnf> vik: is 'ls -la /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox' shows that a symlink ?
[08:52] <fnf> vik: to /usr/lib/firefox ?
[08:52] <Firefishe> Where can I get a list of the compiled kernel modules for 6.10 or Edgy?
[08:52] <coz_> daywalker, BUT there are many people musch moreknowledgeable that myself I amsure someone could help
[08:52] <dooglus> nothlit: your question took a lot of answering!  I had to download the source to gnome-system-monitor, and the source of one of the libs it uses to work out what the columns meant...  the documentation is crap, isn't it?
[08:53] <thyko> how do i install postscript printer drivers?
[08:53] <vik> fnf: yep
[08:53] <nothlit> dooglus, wow, thanks a lot a lot a lot then
[08:53] <ndowens> trying to decide with programming language i should learn
[08:53] <KenSentMe> Firefishe: use apt-cache search <word> or http://packages.ubuntu.com to search packages
[08:53] <daywalker> coz, tru, thanks anyhow.I'll be able to work from it in anotehr hour or so - ill see how i get on till - thanks
[08:53] <dooglus> nothlit: I was interested to find out what the columns meant for myself.  they are identical on my system, and I've wondered before why they were both shown.
[08:54] <nothlit> dooglus, yes its frustrating the yelp documentation and the man documentation never define all the columns/settings/variables
[08:54] <ndowens> !programming
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about programming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <eilker> hi, i installed apache2 and php5, now which mysql packet must i install ?
[08:54] <Firefishe> KenSentMe: Is there a list of just the compiled kernel modules?
[08:54] <coz_> daywalker, well I hope you get it fixed
[08:54] <poquedoraqu> I installed the package for an opengl device because i wanted to see if I could do better with my 3d graphics stuff if I did. The installer said to use some sort of command to activate it, and i pasted that into the terminal. It said 'X' needs to reboot. When i rebooted, it wouldnt let me back into linux at all! I get a blue screen with a square in the middle >.<
[08:54] <elmargol> Firefishe: egrep =y /boot/config*
[08:54] <fnf> vik: Does '/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/' contain a copy of flash 7 ? I guess it doesn't though, either way, try removing the plugin in your home dir first then accessing a flash site to see if Fx works normally.
[08:54] <poquedoraqu> how can i save myself
[08:54] <dooglus> nothlit: I'm not running ubuntu at the moment, so maybe it would be different if I was, but I see documentation only for Name, Directory, Type, Total and Used.  No mention of 'Free' or 'Available'
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ndowens: C++ or Fortan imho
[08:55] <elmargol> and egrep =m /boot/config*
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> but that belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:55] <yogeshitbhu> hi
[08:55] <nothlit> dooglus, yes its the same for me, what distro are you running?
[08:55] <KenSentMe> poquedoraqu: what package did you install?
[08:55] <dooglus> nothlit: I'm running debian sid at the moment
[08:55] <coz_> yogeshitbhu, welcome
[08:55] <dooglus> nothlit: so I guess most things will be pretty similar to edgy anyway for the moment
[08:55] <poquedoraqu> There were two.... i cant remember, one had an extra tag to its name
[08:55] <brocoli> how i can get my adsl working on edgy??
[08:55] <poquedoraqu> but i installed the one without it
[08:55] <koresko> Going to bed.  Thanks guys.
[08:55] <roycebarber> I..need...to know... how do i install downloaded gnome themes. i know nothing of this process.
[08:55] <ndowens> Admiral_Chicago: i know just wanted a idea from someone in here
[08:56] <daywalker> coz. same.Strange how i can ping net addresses though - maybe its a ver6 problem?
[08:56] <poquedoraqu> It said 'for newer boards'... i hope mine's new :(
[08:56] <daywalker> does dapper also use ipv6?
[08:56] <vik> fnf: it has a copy of flash 9. Will try removing it from there to see if firefox still thinks it has flash 7
[08:56] <KenSentMe> poquedoraqu: where did you get it?
[08:56] <coz_> roycebarber, you can go to gnomelook.org
[08:56] <Regurgitator> can someone help me pretty please? lol the ubuntu faw said to check here for support
[08:56] <poquedoraqu> It was from the 'add/remove' list
[08:56] <sith-lord> sup?
[08:56] <yogeshitbhu> i am a newbe to ubuntu .....  as we use your-freedom in windows for proxy is thr ny substitute for ubuntu
[08:56] <yogeshitbhu> ??
[08:56] <zircx> aw man that zooms now iter
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> roycebarber: i think the link is gnome-look.org
[08:56] <poquedoraqu> I can get into Linux terminal, but not into gnome. :(
[08:56] <KenSentMe> poquedoraqu: ah, than there shouldn't be any problems
[08:57] <nothlit> dooglus, its already behind though right? as soon as the upstream freeze hits in dev ubuntu starts lagging behind?
[08:57] <poquedoraqu> But why wont it load up?
[08:57] <fnf> vik: go on, you may delete both of them (/usr/lib and ~/.mozilla), perhaps firefox went crazy after the installation.
[08:57] <coz_> roycebarber, then when you download the theme of choice you go to system/prferences/theme and hit the install theme button locate the downoaded file and click ok
[08:57] <dooglus> yogeshitbhu: what does 'your-freedom' do?
[08:57] <sith-lord> investigating
[08:57] <KenSentMe> poquedoraqu: can you find some errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[08:57] <brocoli>  how i can get my adsl working on edgy??
[08:57] <yogeshitbhu> it speeds up the net access
[08:57] <dooglus> nothlit: that's right.  I get 30 or 40 updates per day on sid
[08:57] <vik> fnf: just got rid of the one in /usr/lib, and it no longer thinks it has flash 7.
[08:57] <KenSentMe> brocoli: what modem do you use?
[08:57] <daywalker> brocoli, mine also dosent :)
[08:58] <poquedoraqu> Well when i checked the error log it gave me it said "NVIDIA: no matching device section for instance (BUS ID PCI:1:0:0
[08:58] <dooglus> nothlit: although in some areas edgy is ahead; sid is still using evolution 2.6.3 for example
[08:58] <roycebarber> Does anyone know if the preview install of Flash9 is stable, because CNET video's seem to require it. Not a big deal, im just slightly curious.
[08:58] <daywalker> i use dlink
[08:58] <fnf> vik: That's sort of the problem, if you have flash 7 installed via aptitude and put flash 9 plugin in your home, /sometimes/ firefox insists on running the 7 version, that's weird but a minor issue.
[08:58] <KenSentMe> !justask | Regurgitator
[08:58] <ubotu> Regurgitator: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:58] <poquedoraqu> Otherwise i dont know, im not extremely familiar with this terminal
[08:58] <nothlit> dooglus, i heard when no bugs are reported for two weeks packages from unstable move to testing?
[08:58] <Regurgitator> lol yes but i did before, i shall re-ask
[08:58] <dooglus> roycebarber: I find flash 9 locks up after 3 to 5 minutes of playing videos at youtube.com
[08:58] <Regurgitator> does anyone know how i could solve this as i would really like to try out ubuntu but these display limitations are preventing me
[08:59] <nothlit> dooglus, is that because ubuntu has such close ties with gnome?
[08:59] <Regurgitator> oops wrong text string sorry
[08:59] <vik> fnf: now I got rid of it from ~/.mozilla, and put it back in /usr/lib, and firefox tells me I'm running version 7 again. Wierd
[08:59] <KenSentMe> poquedoraqu: you could try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:59] <Regurgitator> is there something i can do to stabilize the screen with my ati card so that i can install ubuntu? i tried both 640X480 and 800X600 resolutions which are resolutions i already know worked on windows
[08:59] <dooglus> nothlit: I don't know about debian testing or ubuntu's ties with gnome, sorry :)
[08:59] <roycebarber> Dooglus thank you very much for letting me know flash9 isnt ready. You saved me a lot of troubble. :D
[08:59] <chuckyp> vik, if you make a link in /usr/share/firefox/plugins  it will be there for all users.  You  porobably have to remove the 7 first
[08:59] <brocoli> daywalker, before i have hoary and my adsl work fine, now i cant configure because i dont have console
[08:59] <yogeshitbhu> net is very shit in our college so it needs to use some other sources for tunnelling and speeding up the net
[08:59] <chuckyp> roycebarber, no problems here with 9
[08:59] <coz_> Regurgitator, I don;'t know guy, someone here who does will get to your question,
[09:00] <KenSentMe> Regurgitator: what do you mean with stabilize?
[09:00] <eyequeue> !language
[09:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:00] <dooglus> roycebarber: it might be a problem with my setup.  I'm using 'aoss firefox' to run firefox with OSS emulation (or something).  that might be causing the problems.
[09:00] <vik> chuckyp: I _did_ remove version 7. But firefox insists I have version 7 installed
[09:00] <fnf> vik: It's likely to be some orphan configuration stays put after flash 7 removal, another good idea to mess with your own home directory rather than root's btw. ;)
[09:00] <dooglus> roycebarber: it's pretty quick and easy to switch in the v9 plugin temporarily to test it
[09:00] <poquedoraqu> So i type ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' ?
[09:00] <KenSentMe> poquedoraqu: yes
[09:01] <Link9618> !help
[09:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:01] <nothlit> dooglus, ahh kk ty for your help
[09:01] <roycebarber> I couldnt get flash9 to install anyway. The firefox directory wont let me paste any files, it says i dont have permission.
[09:01] <chuckyp> vik, how did you remove it?
[09:01] <poquedoraqu> And what will this do?  I then ran the command to reconfigure X and just tried the i810 driver, it does the same as before, sticks at blank screen, switched it to vesa, and it works as far as getting to login screen.
[09:01] <chuckyp> vik, and it will be there for all users.
[09:01] <NoisRevBus> hello, i have a strange bug and i vaguely recall reading about it somewhere but the forums don't seem to be working for me
[09:02] <NoisRevBus> when i have azureus running, i have no sound
[09:02] <KenSentMe> poquedoraqu: yes, choose the nv driver and then use all the default options
[09:02] <Regurgitator> (KenSentMe): i mean its like its set to a wrong resolution or something i see like 5 or 6 mouse pointers and such
[09:02] <chuckyp> firebird619, okay so definately a problem with the i810 driver then?
[09:02] <vik> chuckyp: I've also combed through my hard disk for any other instances of libflashplugin.so, which there are none of. But firefox still insists its version 7
[09:02] <dooglus> roycebarber: I put the plugin here: ls -l ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[09:02] <NoisRevBus> does anyone know anything about this?
[09:02] <KenSentMe> Regurgitator: is this in the installer or have you installed ubuntu already?
[09:02] <dooglus> roycebarber: you don't need root privs to copy it there hopefully
[09:02] <Regurgitator> in the installer, i wish to install it
[09:02] <brocoli> daywalker, did you try pppoeconf on console?
[09:02] <vik> chuckyp: though interstingly it seems to actually run as flash 9
[09:03] <bdragonmsl> !xgl
[09:03] <poquedoraqu> Thank you so much :) if that doesnt work, nay way to force gnome up anyway?
[09:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:03] <firebird619> chuckyp, Yes, evidently, with vesa though, when I get to the login screen I login, it logs in then goes to screen that looks like it's running fschk, and then straight back to login screen.
[09:03] <roycebarber> Is there a way to tell Ubuntu to stop restricting my permissions. i
[09:03] <fnf> chuckup: That doesn't really work if flash 9 doesn't play nicely with your computer, in which case, you'll need root permission all the time to fix the problem, and what if other users don't want any kind of annoying flash ads ?
[09:03] <KenSentMe> Regurgitator: you could try donwloading the alternate cd, it uses a text-based installer
[09:03] <chuckyp> vik, I'm sorry my link is in /usr/lib/firefox/plguins
[09:03] <daywalker> brocoli, no have you?
[09:04] <KenSentMe> !alternate | Regurgitator
[09:04] <ubotu> Regurgitator: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[09:04] <^Ocean^> is there a way too tell whats useing a kernel module ?
[09:04] <Regurgitator> (KenSentMe): worth a shot but are there any other alternatives?
[09:04] <vik> chuckyp: they're the same; mozilla-firefox is a symlink to firefox
[09:04] <^Ocean^> im trying to rmmod something but it says its in use... so how to i tell whats useing it ?
[09:04] <KenSentMe> Regurgitator: i wouldn't know
[09:04] <daywalker> brocoli, im not near my linux pc right now
[09:04] <chuckyp> vik, okay well I know it works.   SO make sure flash-plugin and anything related to flash is uninstalled.  Try dpkg -l | grep flash
[09:04] <KenSentMe> roycebarber: what are you trying to do?
[09:05] <dooglus> roycebarber: if you run "sudo nautilus" you'll be able to copy and paste anything wherever you like, but be careful - those permissions are set up to stop you messing things up
[09:05] <chuckyp> vik, then download the flash 9 beta and just put it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[09:05] <roycebarber> KenSentMe, im trying to install Flash9, but i dont have permission to do so. I'm not familiar with the Terminal at all.
[09:05] <chuckyp> vik, then restart firefox go to about:plugins  and you will see it is flash9
[09:05] <KenSentMe> roycebarber: how are you trying to install flash9?
[09:05] <KenSentMe> !flash9 | roycebarber
[09:05] <ubotu> roycebarber: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[09:05] <vik> chuckyp: done all that; firefox still thinks it's version 7. Hence the questions
[09:05] <dooglus> roycebarber: probably I should say "gksu nautilus" to appease the "don't-use-sudo-for-x11-apps" nazis
[09:06] <ndlovu> any recommendations on a tool to spider a website for offline viewing?
[09:06] <KenSentMe> ndlovu: wget
[09:06] <brocoli> daywalker, in previous versions of ubuntu work but my problem is that now i havent console, if you have it maybe work
[09:06] <ndlovu> KenSentMe, wow, wget seems pretty versatile
[09:08] <firebird619> What is an alternative to use to the i810 driver that comes with Edgy, and something other than vesa?
[09:08] <Regurgitator> whats the text i need to put in advanced boot options to enable expert mode (edgy)
[09:09] <chuckyp> vik, well there is a pluginsreg.dat or something like that that references the version
[09:09] <KenSentMe> Regurgitator: in the alternate cd you mean. I don believe the live-cd has an expert mode
[09:10] <Regurgitator> oh i wouldnt know, i saw something like it in help saying to enable expert mode but with no explanations
[09:10] <chuckyp> vik, .mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat  you could try changing the version in there.  but that shouldn't really effect it.  I would try renaming tha tfile and restarting firefox seeing what it says about the version.   It will recreate the file.
[09:10] <domster> Is there a nice easy to install vnc server package. All the packages I've checked out need further configuration (xinetd and the like)
[09:11] <domster> and ubuntuguide is digg'd out, so I can't check there
[09:11] <KenSentMe> domster: vnc is already in ubuntu
[09:12] <KenSentMe> domster: go to System - Preferences - Remote Desktop
[09:12] <vik> chuckyp: nup; still thinks version 7 is in there; and it didn't re-create the file
[09:12] <domster> KenSentMe, yep, true. Where does it log to, because I'm having auth issues
[09:12] <KenSentMe> domster: logs are all in /var/log, so you could check there
[09:12] <domster> KenSentMe, I did.
[09:12] <vik> giving up now
[09:13] <nothlit> dooglus, i found out how packages move into testing http://www.debian.org/devel/testing
[09:14] <kzm> I have a VIA-based mainboard - I know it can monitor its temperatures, since it can display them in the BIOS, but how can I read temperatures from Linux?
[09:15] <firebird619> I just restarted my PC and it said Failed to start X. VESA: No  matching modes and Screens found but none have a usable configuration. Fatal Server Error: no screens found.
[09:19] <Madpilot> kzm, the site seems down right now, but check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto later when it's available
[09:19] <spanglesontoast> grr can't get this damn 3d accel working with fglrx
[09:19] <Lathiat> spanglesontoast: what kind of card?
[09:19] <spanglesontoast> radeon 9600
[09:19] <spanglesontoast> from what I've googled I'm guessing it's about xgl
[09:20] <spanglesontoast> but then again most of you guys are once step ahead of me
[09:20] <Madpilot> spanglesontoast, from what I've read, XGL & ATI don't always play nice together. I've never had issues w/ basic fglrx & my 9600XT, though
[09:20] <spanglesontoast> but isn't xgl the 3d accel
[09:21] <Madpilot> no. XGL is the wobbly desktop thingie.
[09:21] <spanglesontoast> oh
[09:21] <spanglesontoast> so why don't I have 3d accel ?
[09:21] <roycebarber> Running "sudo nautilus" is exactly what I needed to get the permission to install Flash9. It seems to work well!! :D
[09:21] <Madpilot> fglrx is 3d accel
[09:21] <spanglesontoast> could it be because I've installed xgl ?
[09:21] <Regurgitator> a friend of mine also had a similar problem than the one i have with my video cards and told me he had to get it to stop trying to use the monitor drivers and made it use Xorg, if anyone knows how i could do this from the edgy cd please help me out
[09:21] <Qualc1> spanglesontoast: you get errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[09:22] <xukun> anyone having start up problems with vmware workstation after upgrading to Ubuntu edgy?
[09:22] <dsewnr_> hello
[09:22] <dsewnr_> : )
[09:22] <spanglesontoast> (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/$
[09:23] <spanglesontoast> only one I can see
[09:23] <spanglesontoast> I can pastebin if you'd like
[09:24] <Qualc1> spanglesontoast: ok
[09:25] <Link9618> Which respository on the sources.list is firestarter in?
[09:25] <tamacracker> Hey guys... I'm havin a hard time findin my trash can lol
[09:25] <Adriano> !ubotu firestarter
[09:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:25] <Habbie> http://xkcd.com/c178.html
[09:26] <Gustap0> Hi, how do I share an internet connection via a windows machine? Do i just assign an address like 192.168.0.x in the /etc/network files?
[09:26] <spanglesontoast> http://pastebin.ca/232276
[09:26] <Adriano> Link9618: universe/admin
[09:27] <milamber> lo there
[09:27] <Adriano> Link9618: try apt-cache search show --full firestarter
[09:27] <tamacracker> can some one tell me where the trash can is located?
[09:27] <tamacracker> nevermind.
[09:28] <Adriano> they make it way too easy
[09:28] <Adriano> answering their own questions before we have a chance...
[09:28] <Adriano> not fair, man, not fair
[09:28] <Gustap0> Ok, if you want to answer a question, then answer mine (please :P).
[09:29] <Regurgitator> or mine even lol
[09:29] <Feldegast> Gustap0 is the windows pc the client or the server?
[09:29] <daywalker> brocoli, any improvement?
[09:29] <Gustap0> I'm trying to get the linux box connected to the internet via a windows machine. Usually, with dial-up, i'd need to setup the resolv.conf file and then some.
[09:29] <Gustap0> Feldegast- the server. or gateway
[09:30] <Gustap0> and its got an adsl connection- picks up the ip dynamically.
[09:30] <Link9618> Thank you
[09:30] <Feldegast> Gustap0 then u set up ICS on the windows pc, then on the linux pc u set the gateway to <IP_ADDRESS> and u set the dns on the linux pc to the ISP's DNS
[09:31] <milamber> someone nows why k3b suddenly stoped working, it will try to start with burning, buth doesnt do anything, it worked before
[09:31] <Gustap0> uh huh. and it'll work right outta the box if i hook 'em up both using an ethernet cable right? no routers/switches involved. just mano-a-mano ethernet cards doing their business.
[09:31] <Feldegast> Gustap0 the adsl device, is it a router?
[09:32] <Gustap0> no, a usb-modem.
[09:32] <Feldegast> Gustap0 it will but ICS is flaky
[09:32] <Mike2k6> hello, i have a problem with frostwire, i downloaded it, but it wont connect
[09:33] <kzm> Madpilot, thanks.
[09:33] <Feldegast> when you set up ICS on the server pc it will set bridging and other things
[09:34] <milamber> nobuddy? ive tried it also with differant burn-programs, like eg nero, and xcdroast buth all have the same problem, they will start buth do nothing with the empty disk, and hangs afther a while
[09:34] <Gustap0> Feldegast- i'd have chosen to connect the modem to the linux box. only problem is the adsl-driver. which is provided by that eagle-usb modem driver mod. I don't know how to re-route (or is it called bridging?) the internet connection to the ethernet card on the linux box.
[09:34] <xukun> which packages to I need to install the development tools?
[09:34] <Gustap0> xukun: perhaps build-essentials?
[09:35] <Feldegast> Gustap0 that's why i don't use USB
[09:36] <gourdin> anyone knows why I got this output http://pastebin.co.uk/4941 when doing a dist-upgrade in edgy eft ?
[09:36] <Adriano> Gustap0: yes, most people strongly recommend to use ethernet adsl modem/routers if possible
[09:36] <crimsun> gourdin: are you using any non-Canonical repositories?
[09:36] <kleinlappies> is there a good thunderbird backup program or command?
[09:37] <gourdin> crimsun: ?
[09:37] <gourdin> hmmm
[09:37] <Feldegast> gourdin try running it again?
[09:37] <Adriano> kleinlappies: copying the .thunderbird or .mozilla-thunderbird dir somewhere else?
[09:37] <gourdin> crimsun: I'm coming from dapper wich used a mirror to install aiglx
[09:37] <AWOSDev> My floppy drive doesn't work, it didn't get created for some reason (as in, even with sudo, /dev/fd0 doesn't exist).
[09:38] <Gustap0> Adriano: never doubted that. Just giving one whack at the device the ISP provided me with. thanks all.
[09:38] <Adriano> .mozilla-thunderbird in Edgy
[09:38] <gourdin> now i'm only using ubuntu mirror for edgy
[09:38] <AWOSDev> Adriano, .mozilla-thunderbird in Dapper, too.
[09:38] <AWOSDev> I had to fiddle with it last night.
[09:38] <Adriano> Gustap0: I haven't really been following this chan, just trying to make gaim crash, sorry
[09:38] <roycebarber> Democracy Player is so awesome! I didn't know it even ran in linux. This is incredible. Gleeeee!!! I love watching Leo Laporte, and now i can.. hehehe...
[09:39] <AWOSDev> dd: opening `/dev/fd0': No such file or directory
[09:39] <AWOSDev> stat: cannot stat `/dev/fd0': No such file or directory
[09:39] <AWOSDev> :-(
[09:39] <AWOSDev> ^^ That's with sudo on it too
[09:39] <Gustap0> whatis democracy player? :P i smell al-gore.
[09:39] <crimsun> gourdin: ok, is 'ubuntu-desktop' installde?
[09:39] <gourdin> crimsun: perhaps a --reinstall of some package ?
[09:39] <crimsun> installed, even
[09:39] <Adriano> AWOSDev: are you sure your floppy is still there in sftab?
[09:39] <Adriano> after the Great Renaming to UUID, I mean
[09:40] <nomad111> can some1 tell me why i don t get water effects with beryl, i have an intel 945gm card
[09:40] <AWOSDev> Adriano, Well, I have Dapper for one thing.  and I'm not trying to mount it.
[09:40] <gourdin> crimsun: kubuntu desktop was installed before dist-upgrading to edgy
[09:40] <AWOSDev> I want to dd from it!
[09:40] <xx2trouble> anybosy know about localisation? i wanna thai desktop but thai-system is broken
[09:40] <brynk> i still can't print on my epson aculaser c1100 in edgy
[09:40] <brynk> FIX IT
[09:40] <brynk> :)
[09:40] <gourdin> now It seems to be deleted
[09:40] <Qualc1> spanglesontoast: if you disable AIGLX, with ---Option "AIGLX" "false"--- in /etc/X11/xorg.conf does 3D accel works ?
[09:40] <Adriano> AWOSDev: I can't help you much, since I tore out the floppy unit from my 'puter long ago, and it didn't work to begin with
[09:40] <kleinlappies> Adriano, so could i do a cron job to copy the .mozilla-thunderbird dir to another place like everyday at 11:00
[09:40] <nomad111> brynk, wats the printer problem
[09:41] <Adriano> kleinlappies: yes, rsync should help you there
[09:41] <AWOSDev> okay well goodnight
[09:41] <spanglesontoast> erm well I think I was paranoid
[09:41] <brynk> it just sits there doing nothing, job stopped, giving a foomatic-rip error
[09:41] <crimsun> gourdin: I would remove any external packages (that didn't originate from archive.ubuntu.com), reinstall kubuntu-desktop, then update && dist-upgrade again
[09:41] <spanglesontoast> it's just the transgaming thing said no 3d acce
[09:41] <gourdin> crimsun: ok
[09:41] <gourdin> I'll try
[09:41] <Adriano> kleinlappies: try the official site for better strategies, it's almost surely a FAQ or at least in the manual
[09:41] <gary_> hello all, I'm wondering if anyone can provide me with direction (search terms for ubuntu forums would even be great) for an issue where I can see a shared xp folder, view the contents, browse subfolders, and even open .txt and image files, but mp3 files will not play (they play if I copy them to a local folder).  I'm using ubuntu 6.10 currently
[09:42] <spanglesontoast> what difference will that make Qualcl
[09:42] <kleinlappies> Adriano, K will look at that thanks.
[09:42] <gary_> if I open them in xmms, they show up in the playlist, but pressing 'play' simply doesn't seem to do anything
[09:42] <frying_fish> gary_: you don't have the gnome-vfs attributes for your players
[09:42] <Feldegast> gourdin i found that the cdromupgrade on the install cd worked around those
[09:42] <frying_fish> as they can't play directly over samba
[09:43] <gourdin> Feldegast: ho
[09:43] <brynk> nomad111: it just sits there doing nothing, job stopped, giving a foomatic-rip error (also see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68183)
[09:43] <Qualc1> it should disable aiglx
[09:43] <gary_> frying_fish: that's it? :) sorry to waste your time then..
[09:43] <Adriano> I'd like to know why local mp3 or ogg files will not "preview" (as in "play") anymore if I hover over them, even with audio preview enabled for files of those sizes
[09:43] <frying_fish> you will either need to mount the folder (to make it think its a local file) or find a package that will add the "play over samba" functionality for your player.
[09:43] <gourdin> hmmmm
[09:43] <nomad111> brynk, strange
[09:43] <gourdin> --reinstall some packages seems to work
[09:43] <frying_fish> Adriano: apt-get install mpg321
[09:43] <Adriano> thanks
[09:43] <Feldegast> apt-get distupgrade when i did it didn't upgrade everything, the cdromupgrade on the cd did (at least) python
[09:43] <Adriano> will try
[09:43] <stylus> where could i find these? checking for X... no
[09:43] <stylus> configure: error: X development libraries not found
[09:44] <frying_fish> stylus: what you trying to compile?
[09:44] <nomad111> brynk, strange sorry i thought i could help
[09:44] <gourdin> Feldegast: ok, thx for th tips
[09:44] <stylus> gtk+
[09:44] <gourdin> Feldegast: I'm trying --reinstall some package =)
[09:44] <Feldegast> :)
[09:44] <milamber> howto set cdrecord suid root ?
[09:44] <frying_fish> stylus: why? why not just use the one that comes with ubuntu. its the latest stable version
[09:44] <frying_fish> milamber: ask google
[09:44] <spanglesontoast> but I'd love to get beryl working
[09:45] <stylus> frying_fish: i see
[09:45] <Adriano> frying_fish: ok, that was really stupid, but worked.  Anyone know if Google is going to.. 1.) release their own linux distro. 2.) finance development of ubuntu.
[09:46] <Adriano> or browsing for one...
[09:46] <frying_fish> Adriano: go file a bug, but again its a package that won't be included by default (mp3 licensing)
[09:46] <Adriano> roycebarber: 1) they said no. 2) doubt it
[09:46] <Adriano> frying_fish: at least for ogg files, it should work
[09:46] <Feldegast> frying_fish i tried installing the beta drivers yesterday and it killed X completly, had to downgrade them
[09:46] <Adriano> or not let me do it in the first place
[09:46] <frying_fish> well ok then, just use the xgl for now
[09:46] <tur1> hi just a quick question is ubuntu website down?
[09:47] <frying_fish> as xorg7.1 doesn't eat the cpu but if it crashes then don't use it.
[09:47] <frying_fish> tur1: nope.
[09:47] <tur1> mm
[09:47] <crimsun> tur1: routing issues upstream.
[09:47] <tur1> i could not access it
[09:47] <gorndog> same here, tur1
[09:47] <crimsun> you may or may not experience said routing issues.
[09:48] <tur1> ok, let me check
[09:48] <tur1> thanks
[09:48] <Feldegast> frying_fish i have latest xorg, just not the beta nvidia drivers
[09:48] <crimsun> (it's known)
[09:48] <frying_fish> Feldegast: yes, but for nvidia it will only do it using just xorg 7.1 with the latest beta drivers, as the earlier ones don't support the extensions
[09:48] <gorndog> tur1, ubuntuforums.org also.
[09:48] <Feldegast> k
[09:49] <Adriano> frying_fish: it doesn't even work for ogg files, it's reedeeculous
[09:49] <frying_fish> because mpg321 is a program that isn't installed by default
[09:49] <frying_fish> and they haven't written something like ogg321 (so if you want it, go do it yourself...)
[09:49] <Adriano> sure, but I installed it right now, it works with mp3 giles
[09:49] <Adriano> *files
[09:50] <Adriano> and ogg123 used to exist, and isn't in the edgy repos
[09:51] <frying_fish> I know you installed it, but you were arguing its stupid that it doesn't do it by default, but mpg321 isn't installed by default because of licensing and certain laws in certain countries.
[09:51] <Adriano> I'm arguing that for free .ogg files it should work and it doesn't
[09:52] <RMorris84> how can i install guifications for gaim 2.0 beta 3?
[09:52] <Adriano> and I'm arguing that if it's at all unallowed in certain countries, and requires a package installation, nautilus shouldn't let me just enable the thing
[09:52] <sverek> hello, when running eclipse in edgy i get the same error as this guy (in french) anybody know a fix? http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=71854
[09:53] <sverek> i have tried with gcj and sun java and same error
[09:53] <frying_fish> sure it could, because then it is up to you to install it
[09:53] <frying_fish> so any issues with laws are at your discretion.
[09:53] <Adriano> for .ogg files?
[09:53] <hintswen> Is there a program that i can use o watch TV?(I have a TV tuner card)
[09:53] <frying_fish> hintswen: mythtv.
[09:53] <Feldegast> hintswen myth tv?
[09:54] <Regurgitator> if anyone knows how i can make the ubuntu installer load with the Xorg instead of the default video drivers let me know
[09:54] <sparr> hintswen: xawtv (maybe?  ive heard of it, never used it)
[09:54] <sparr> Regurgitator: xorg has nothing to do with video drivers
[09:54] <hintswen> do i need the right drivers for my TV card to use myth tv?
[09:54] <frying_fish> Regurgitator: rephrase your question to make some sense.
[09:54] <frying_fish> hintswen: most probably.
[09:54] <sparr> hintswen: drivers are good.  but you dont HAVE to have them.  generics, even generic v4l drivers for dumb capture, will work
[09:54] <frying_fish> sparr: lies.
[09:54] <gorndog> crimsun: is there any site that explains routing issue or gives status?  I'm assuming many affected ..., as I cannot even get to it from two different ISPs, nor from any proxies that I tried (e.g., hidemyass.com)
[09:54] <hintswen> dam, I checked and there's only windows 2k/XP drivers for it
[09:55] <frying_fish> about xorg not having anything to do video drivers.
[09:55] <sparr> hintswen: the drivers listed by the company are rarely the same as the drivers youll find in linux
[09:55] <sparr> frying_fish: of course.
[09:55] <Feldegast> hintswen what tv card is it?
[09:55] <hintswen> well I think it's actually my graphics card, WinFast PX6600 GT
[09:56] <stylus> configure: error: Library requirements (  libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.10   atk >= 1.0.0   gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0   glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[09:56] <Regurgitator> i dont even know what im saying myself lol, all i know is im new to ubuntu and my friend uses another nix on which he had the same problem as i do with my video card, he said he had to make it stop trying to use the monitor drivers and made it use Xorg
[09:56] <crimsun> gorndog: I don't know of one off the top of my head
[09:56] <Feldegast> hintswen that doesn't have a tv tuner
[09:56] <stylus> frying_fish: my dependancies are higher than what it needs
[09:56] <hintswen> says it does here
[09:56] <stylus> why can't it use them?
[09:56] <hintswen> http://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/3d_graphic/overview.asp?lineid=1&pronameid=147
[09:56] <sparr> stylus: dependencies are not always "this version or higher", some require a specific version
[09:56] <hintswen> says it has HDTV support
[09:57] <stylus> sparr: so i need to install those exact versions?
[09:57] <Feldegast> hintswen it has HDTV OUT
[09:57] <ndlovu> I'm trying to convert single page pdf files to 2-page-per-sheet pdfs, but it loses the first page for some reason. Any ideas why it's not working?
[09:57] <ndlovu> pdf2ps kyoto2002.pdf - | mpage -2 -bA4 | ps2pdf - kyoto2002-2.pdf
[09:57] <sparr> stylus: maybe.  i dont know.  im speaking generically
[09:57] <hintswen> right, well i'm on windows right now lol
[09:58] <Feldegast> hintswen it doesn't have a Tuner, it might have video in.....
[09:58] <hintswen> I'll try figure out what my tv tuner card is then
[09:58] <stylus> sparr: that doesn't really help me :(
[09:58] <ndlovu> that's single page-per-sheet pdfs...
[09:58] <hintswen> I'm watching TV on my computer right now
[09:58] <Feldegast> hintswen what software are you using?
[09:58] <RollDice> Hey all, anyone here have experience with compiz/beryl under ubuntu edgy eft? My GDM keeps restarting when I enable GD display or load an XGL session
[09:58] <hintswen> WinFast DTV
[09:59] <frying_fish> stylus: do you have -dev versions of each of those?
[09:59] <Feldegast> hintswen in that software, go into settings and tell me what divice it is using
[09:59] <frying_fish> stylus: these are >= so they can be greater than, but make sure you have the -dev version of the packages.
[10:00] <Regurgitator> (frying_fish): did it make more sense that time?
[10:00] <hintswen> WinFast DTV 1000T BDA DVB-T Tuner/Demon (Thomson DTT7579)
[10:00] <Feldegast> hintswen same as my card :)
[10:00] <frying_fish> Regurgitator: not really, what is your graphics card, (we might figure it out from that)
[10:00] <stylus> ok, i'm finding them now frying_fish
[10:00] <hintswen> yay i'm not the only person with this card lol
[10:01] <Regurgitator> i have an ati radeon
[10:01] <Feldegast> your card is "WinFast DTV 1000T"
[10:01] <frying_fish> Regurgitator: which model.
[10:01] <frying_fish> there are a lot....
[10:01] <ndlovu> or is there a better way to convert pdfs using ghostscript rather than a combination of pdf2ps, mpage and ps2pdf?
[10:01] <Feldegast> hintswen, next isue is getting it working under linux.....now i havn't tried mine yet....
[10:02] <brynk> so.. i'm downloading fedora and thinking about installing it
[10:02] <Regurgitator> (frying_fish): radeon 7000
[10:02] <donfilipo> anyone can tell how to enable XGL in Edgy i have heart it should be easy
[10:03] <Feldegast> brynk i know a lot of ppl who have fedora, have got fed up with it and are moving to ubuntu
[10:03] <hintswen> Feldegast, would it work running under a virtual machine?
[10:03] <kzm> I'm trying out Thunderbird, but when trying to reply to an email, the crappy editor just gives me a bunch of red frames with funny symbols on them.  Apparently, one is just supposed to return each entire mail along with one's response.  Let me guess: it is still impossible to use a real editor to compose mails?
[10:03] <frying_fish> Regurgitator: ok then, right do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:03] <Feldegast> hintswen no, it needs a driver, it is HDTV so i don't know how well it will work
[10:03] <frying_fish> and then when it suggests a driver use the "radeon" or "ati" option (probably radeon is best)
[10:04] <Regurgitator> (frying_fish): input that in the advanced boot options?
[10:04] <frying_fish> Regurgitator: no
[10:04] <hintswen> Feldegast, I just checked and there's only WinXP drivers :(
[10:04] <Regurgitator> ubuntu is not yet installed on my system if i hadnt mentioned that
[10:04] <frying_fish> no you didn't mention that
[10:04] <frying_fish> at which point the cd you put in will most likely detect which one you want anyway
[10:04] <frying_fish> so just what it suggests.
[10:05] <Feldegast> hintswen the winfast website won't have linux drivers, you'd need to look elsewhere
[10:05] <brynk> Feldegast: yeah well, i'm kinda fed up with ubuntu, i've been a haapy user since it first got out but i've put a lot of time in getting my printer to work in edgy and there's not much hope of it getting fixed. i've asked questions on forums and filed bugs, but noone seems to want to help, so i've kind of had it
[10:06] <Regurgitator> well the problem is no matter what resolution i try its always as though its the wrong one, i get the menu that asks if i want to install or check cd for defects etc to come up properly but as soon as it loads into the installer it seems to go to a wrong resoltion
[10:06] <Feldegast> brynk what printer?
[10:06] <mnepton> brynk: have you spoken to your printer's manufacturer?
[10:06] <gorndog> crimsun: thanks, routing issue appears to be resolved now.
[10:06] <brynk> Feldegast: epson aculaser c1100
[10:07] <frying_fish> Regurgitator: well just deal with the wrong resolution for the install (or, either change it in the system->preferences->resolution) option, or kill X, and edit the xorg config it has
[10:07] <Feldegast> an epson printer doesn't work? strange
[10:07] <frying_fish> just install it with a bad resolution, then fix it after install
[10:07] <brynk> mnepton: the printer works fine in dapper, the drivers aren't great though
[10:07] <frying_fish> its like windows, windows will only install on something like 800x600 (unless you give it a nice little hack to get a command prompt open and force it to change resolution)
[10:07] <frying_fish> and now I must go, for I am due in at university.
[10:08] <Bokeh> mornin'
[10:08] <mnepton> brynk: http://robert.cheramy.net/my.wiki/Divers/EpsonAcuLaserC1100
[10:08] <brynk> mnepton: yeah, that doesn't work in edgy
[10:08] <sandy16> how to reinstall grub loader ?
[10:09] <mnepton> brynk: have you spoken to Epson about it?
[10:09] <mnepton> brynk: and it seems to just be a .ppd, which you sould be able to set up via GNOME's printer dialogs
[10:09] <brynk> mnepton: no, i kinda have to do it with the drivers pointed to at the site you just linked
[10:10] <brynk> there fine btw, just not in edgy
[10:10] <brynk> *they're
[10:11] <lOkadin> how do i get wmv support?
[10:13] <Feldegast> brynk http://whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/437089.html
[10:13] <Feldegast> oops
[10:13] <hintswen> i think i'll just wait untill this show is finished then install ubuntu
[10:13] <Feldegast> hintswen that link was for u
[10:13] <hintswen> ok
[10:14] <Feldegast> it's setting that card up in linux
[10:14] <sandy16> can any body help to reinstall my grub loader on dapper 6.06?
[10:16] <webben> It looks like my old Thinkpad is on its last legs. Is anyone here running Ubuntu on Parallels, and if so, what's that like?
[10:16] <SoftIce> I just want to warn people on ubuntu edgy upgrade, we had some nasty trouble with VOIP servers on the upgrade, a number of things not working..
[10:16] <SoftIce> make sure you stage your upgrade first
[10:16] <SoftIce> in #fedora
[10:17] <SoftIce> sorry.
[10:17] <roycebarber> WindowsXP has a file checking program. It restores origional files, to repair the system. Does Ubuntu have that. Also, does linux use a Registry??
[10:18] <Acke_ubu> hey i just installed fluxbox through synaptic. however, i cant auto generate menus. i tried with reconfigure from the menu and fluxbox-generate_menu in the terminal. any ideas??
[10:18] <Acke_ubu> !fluxbox
[10:18] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[10:18] <roycebarber> Registry...Linux... anyone have an answer.
[10:19] <hdcool> roycebarber: thank god no
[10:19] <roycebarber> Haha thank you!
[10:19] <pty> roycebarber: it doesn't have a registry as such but gnome does have gconf which is registry like
[10:19] <hdcool> it uses flat files.. if you fuck up your system, remove the files and restart all over
[10:19] <DBO> hdcool, watch the swearing please =)
[10:19] <hdcool> hm :)
[10:19] <SoftIce> roycebarber: if I was you I would do a rsync backup of your system with an incremental solution.
[10:20] <SoftIce> then if something goes bang or if you delete something just compare date()
[10:20] <SoftIce> and move backs the files that have changed since your system broke
[10:20] <roycebarber> Ok now to my next previous question. (And yeah, my kids use this channel so please people be nice). Also..softice thats a good idea. Ok... Does a file checking program exist, or a "Repair Install"?
[10:20] <roycebarber> I'
[10:21] <hdcool> in linux everything works kind off totally different.. :)
[10:21] <aterphasma> can someone recommend a good laptop network utility? roaming is not conducive to edgy working very well, i've found
[10:21] <hdcool> you won't need all those fancy tools
[10:21] <roycebarber> I'm compairing Windows backup features to Ubuntu, because im brand new user to linux and im having troubble wrapping my head around all this Terminal talk
[10:21] <frederick85> hdcool: there's some really crappy programs for linux too, look at this http://pooby.freds-webs.net
[10:22] <SoftIce> roycebarber: I have a nice backup solution on my site, http://www.security.web.za/rsync.htm
[10:22] <webben> roycebarber: the reason for the Terminal talk is it tends to get things done faster than describing how to do it with GUI
[10:22] <SoftIce> its pretty easy to follow, mainly cut and paste
[10:22] <hdcool> erm frederick85 ? :p
[10:22] <roycebarber> I imagine after i learn the basic terminal lingo, installing and editing files will be a lot easier. I hope anyway.
[10:22] <frederick85> hdcool: I MAde It :D
[10:23] <hdcool> :p
[10:23] <samu2> all right, so ubuntu is not working even though i did a fresh install
[10:23] <samu2> keeps throwing me out to the login screen constantly
[10:23] <scheuri> hi all
[10:23] <SoftIce> samu2: what is the issue?
[10:23] <webben> roycebarber: which application would you like to edit files with? (I assume you don't know vim or nano or pico or emacs, so you probably something GUI like gedit).
[10:23] <roycebarber> Random bit of data: I couldnt get my computer to boot to the Ubuntu 6.10 cd, so i had to install the previous ubuntu cd and then update it.
[10:24] <webben> roycebarber: so wherever a instruction for the Terminal says something like sudo vim /path/to/some/file
[10:24] <webben> roycebarber: just replace that with gksudo gedit /path/to/some/file
[10:24] <webben> that will launch gedit to edit the same file
[10:25] <webben> (I use Vim because it's a lot faster and fully featured, but it does take getting used to.)
[10:25] <samu2> SoftIce I only get to see the gnome desktop for maybe 15 seconds before I'm thrown out to the login screen again.
[10:25] <roycebarber> emacs im not sure, there are many things i like to edit and play with. webben, do you know of a site that explains Terminal lingo in a easy way.
[10:25] <SoftIce> samu2: well you need to check your x11 logs
[10:25] <SoftIce> and see whats causing it to crash, maybe monitor refresh rate, res, etc.
[10:26] <roycebarber> Anyone know why WINE bugs out so easily..? I'm thinking maybe I did something wrong. No biggie, im mildly curious and playing with it.
[10:26] <samu2> SoftIce all right, where are the x11 logs?
[10:26] <Regurgitator> Leaving Reason..::sleep::.. Time is now: 5:26am .UPP.
[10:26] <SoftIce> hehe, for all the years i'm used WINE its been buggy ;)
[10:26] <webben> roycebarber: maybe http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal is a basic guide to the shell (it's for bash, Ubuntu uses dash, but the differences don't need to worry you at this point)
[10:26] <SoftIce> samu2: all your logs sit in /var/log
[10:27] <SoftIce> just run 'tail -f logname'
[10:27] <SoftIce> and it will show the last part of the log and tail if anthing else is being passed to it.
[10:27] <webben> roycebarber: particularly worth learning the basic file/directory commands (mkdir (make directories), rm -r (to delete files and directories), ls -al (list files in current directory), cd (change to another director) )
[10:28] <Magilla> if I do a dist-upgrade from dapper, what are the chances it will go horribly wrong?
[10:28] <stylus> it seems the au repository for ubuntu is down.
[10:28] <webben> roycebarber: other than that, one mainly uses /particular/ commands with the terminal which aren't really "terminal lingo" just applications in their own right
[10:28] <crimsun> Magilla: 50/50
[10:28] <roycebarber> I used to know all the DOS Prompt commands... so terminal is alien to me, yet im sure i'll soak it up fast.
[10:28] <Magilla> crimsun: they aren't promising odds...
[10:28] <webben> roycebarber: like apt-get, which is for "getting"/installing packages with the Apt package manager
[10:29] <crimsun> Magilla: no better, no worse.
[10:29] <webben> roycebarber: or apt-cache search (for searching potential packages for install)
[10:29] <webben> roycebarber: so there's not like one page to explain the terminal, any more than there'd be one page to explain Windows.
[10:29] <samu2> Isn't ctrl+alt+fx the shortcut to get to terminal x?
[10:29] <webben> samu2: yes
[10:30] <roycebarber> webben you bring up things i didnt realize, im going to play with apt-get and the other things you speak of. its facinating to flex the power of linux because its so different than windows.
[10:30] <samu2> ok, well it seems i made ubuntu crash by pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[10:30] <webben> roycebarber: If you used to know the DOS prompt, you won't have too much trouble easing into Terminal.
[10:30] <roycebarber> I'm going to ask a possibly dumb question: Does Linux use C++? Im sure it doesnt but i dont know.
[10:31] <sparr> roycebarber: it does
[10:31] <webben> roycebarber: Some applications are programmed in C++ yes.
[10:31] <sparr> webben: i think he mans linux itself
[10:31] <webben> oh
[10:32] <roycebarber> C++ works in linux? Then... why do c++ written programs not run on both windows and linux?
[10:32] <sparr> roycebarber: they do
[10:33] <roycebarber> So there is a common file extension that works in linux and windows..?
[10:33] <eyequeue> g++ (1)              - GNU project C and C++ compiler
[10:33] <sparr> hell, i know a c++ game that uses SDL for graphics that runs on windows, linux, osx, palm, zaurus, gp2x, psp, nintendo ds, gamecube, ps2, xbox
[10:33] <webben> roycebarber: it doesn't work quite like that
[10:33] <sparr> roycebarber: file extension?  sure.  .cc or .c++ or .cpp would work
[10:33] <samu2> SoftIce so, did you mean Xorg.0.log ?
[10:33] <webben> roycebarber: you have to recompile to run on the other OS
[10:33] <roycebarber> Haha this is quite the educational experience for me!
[10:33] <webben> roycebarber: and it depends on what libraries the C++ programs use
[10:34] <roycebarber> Webben the libraries idea is something i was wondering, thank you.
[10:34] <webben> roycebarber: e.g. to run on both windows and linux, it must use a GUI toolkit that works on both (e.g. GTK)
[10:34] <webben> roycebarber: or compile with a different toolkit on each system
[10:34] <CotRo|eR> i have set up proftpd on my ubuntu and when i acces it i cant write to it... how do i make it write?
[10:34] <roycebarber> Either WINE had better emulate every windows program, or someone should write programs that run on every os without recompiling it.
[10:35] <webben> roycebarber: I think they did. it's called Java.
[10:35] <sparr> roycebarber: what webben said
[10:35] <Kvark> how do you change language?
[10:35] <hintswen> ubuntu is gnome right?
[10:35] <sparr> hintswen: ish
[10:35] <ub12> Hello. Can some one please tell me how do i set a password for su?
[10:35] <webben> hintswen: Ubuntu Desktop comes with gnome installed
[10:35] <hintswen> ok, thanks
[10:35] <sparr> hintswen: by default, yes.  but ubuntu provides kde packages as well.  kubuntu has kde as the default.
[10:36] <sparr> xubuntu has xfce as the default
[10:36] <webben> hitswen: you can run Ubuntu without gnome, and you can install alternate wms like kde xfce fluxbox etc
[10:36] <roycebarber> Is gnome more stable than KDE
[10:36] <hintswen> I was just trying to work out the difference lo
[10:36] <ub12> Kvark you can choose language at the login window
[10:36] <eyequeue> !sudo > ub12
[10:36] <webben> roycebarber: who knows? (the best a question like that could do is start a flamewar ;) )
[10:36] <sparr> gnome is so far behind kde in terms of eye candy and features...  i cant imagine why there is still any competition...  except maybe for gtk+ being Free and Qt not.
[10:36] <CotRo|eR> !proftpd
[10:36] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9 (edgy), package size 579 kB, installed size 1508 kB
[10:36] <ub12> eyequeue, I do not want to use sudo
[10:36] <CotRo|eR> i have set up proftpd on my ubuntu and when i acces it i cant write to it... how do i make it write?
[10:36] <Kvark> ub12 thanks i'll try that!
[10:37] <ub12> Kvark np
[10:37] <eyequeue> ub12, nevertheless, read the url the bot gave
[10:37] <webben> roycebarber: most of the gnome-kde fanboyism focuses not on stability but on "simplicity" vs "power"
[10:37] <ub12> eyequeue, ok thanks
[10:37] <eyequeue> ub12, it covers what you want, no doubt (-i)
[10:38] <sparr> webben: dont forget eye candy  :)
[10:38] <ZeeO> hey guys i'm trying to play a DVD on tv box but thing is its got no dvdrom in it how can i a share a dvdrom over the network
[10:38] <tacopon_> Plz someone tell me how to change primary booting from Ubuntu to WindowsXP
[10:38] <sparr> ZeeO: same way you share any other drive
[10:39] <milamber> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29692/ ive pasted there the output from my burner, someaone can have a look, i still cant burn cd-roms
[10:39] <eyequeue> tacopon_, "default=" in /boot/grub/menu.lst, then sudo update-grub
[10:39] <webben> sparr: Yes... but as both sides (natch) insist they have eye candy, that's a bit zero sum. Simplicity vs power approaches a clear difference.
[10:39] <CotRo|eR> i have set up proftpd on my ubuntu and when i acces it i cant write to it... how do i make it write?
[10:39] <CotRo|eR> i have set up proftpd on my ubuntu and when i acces it i cant write to it... how do i make it write?
[10:39] <hintswen> I might get Knoppix lol
[10:39] <ZeeO> my laptop is kubuntu thats what the dvdrom is coming from
[10:39] <sparr> tacopon_: first, play a dozen rounds of russian roulette.  come back after.
[10:39] <roycebarber> I cant find my windows directory when im running ubuntu. will i have to stand on my head to make it work, because im new at this.
[10:39] <webben> roycebarber: you probably want to look into ntfs-3g
[10:39] <sparr> webben: plausible.  i have tried gnome a few times in the last few years, and what they call "simplicity" i call "limited to the features kde had 3 years ago"
[10:40] <edgy> Hi, i downloaded edgy iso and mounted -o looped it so I now have all the .debs files, can I upgrade dapper to edgy without burning the iso to a CD? something like dpkg -i *
[10:40] <roycebarber> If I find my Windows directory (by the way what is "ntfs-3g???"), will that make WINE run better?
[10:41] <eyequeue> edgy, out then in /var/cache/apt/archives, then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (after editing sources.list etc)
[10:41] <eyequeue> edgy, put them
[10:41] <ub12> eyequeue, Thanks it gave me excactly the information I was after. I have been asked for su password when trying to set up a cups printer using "localhost:631" method but it would not accept my sudo pasword.
[10:41] <eyequeue> ub12, :)
[10:42] <edgy> eyequeue: thx a lot for the idea I will try now and report back if there is any problem
[10:42] <eyequeue> edgy, dpkg -i is too dangerous, apt will handle sequencing and dependencies
[10:42] <Juhaz> sparr, what you call "features" and "eye candy", I call endless clutter of ugly junk being puked on me whether I want it or not
[10:42] <eyequeue> edgy, are you fluent on sources.list and apt-get update?
[10:43] <roycebarber> When I plug in a USB hard drive, can i disconnect it at any time or do i need to somehow eject it first in the os????
[10:43] <samu2> ok, i managed to switch to a terminal and login with ctrl+alt+f2
[10:43] <sparr> Juhaz: meh, it can all be turned off in kde if you dont want it.  im not a fan of eye candy, but some of the basic things that i need in a GUI just arent there in gnome
[10:44] <samu2> then i switch back to gdm and try to login and get thrown out as usual... and then if i try to switch to terminal2 again the system crashes
[10:44] <sparr> Juhaz: take baobab, gnome finally has a graphical 'treeview' file browser (ish)...  comparable to the same utilities in windows 8 years ago, and kde 3 years ago.
[10:44] <jdawson> Can anyone recommend a good tut/doc on installing ubuntu next to linux on my laptop? I have two seperate partitions already, C (win) and D (nothing) -- just nervous about screwing my win partition, important stuff on there.
[10:44] <sparr> jdawson: ubuntu is linux...
[10:44] <jdawson> mistake, next to winxp :P
[10:44] <sparr> sure.  just install it on D
[10:45] <eyequeue> what is D?
[10:45] <jdawson> 'oh right, cool thanks
[10:45] <sparr> (nothing), apparently  :)
[10:45] <edgy> eyequeue: where should I find the .deb's file on the cd?! the pool/main and pool/restricted only contains 29 basic packages
[10:45] <roycebarber> jdawson ubuntu can safly adjust your partition automatically.. but please for pinaples sake buy a backup drive and backup your files first.
[10:45] <sparr> then you can set up the windows boot loader on C to give you a menu with D as an option, or you can install grub/lilo on the mbr or on C
[10:46] <eyequeue> edgy, pool would be where they reside, you may have the livecd which has less debs on it
[10:46] <jdawson> Righto thanks
[10:46] <samu2> yeah, backup files first if you have anything impoo
[10:46] <samu2> rtant
[10:46] <CotRo|eR> i have an ubuntu ftp server and when i try to upload it says permission denied.... any help???
[10:46] <sparr> CotRo|eR: the user you are logged into ftp as does not have write permission to the folder you are in
[10:46] <edgy> eyequeue: i dowloaded the ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:47] <CotRo|eR> sparr: how do i make write persmission pls?
[10:47] <eyequeue> edgy, yes, "desktop" is the livecd (as opposed to alternate, which i prefer)
[10:47] <roycebarber> My boot loader says im using an old version of Ubuntu, but i know im using 6.10. is my boot loader out of date, is that possible.
[10:47] <edgy> eyequeue: no one told me this before! ;)
[10:47] <eyequeue> roycebarber, which boot loader?  grub?
[10:48] <edgy> eyequeue: so desktop is the livecd and alternate is the desktop cd or what?!
[10:48] <samu2> are there any changes to gnome in 6.10 that might be incompatible with older hardware?
[10:48] <roycebarber> eyeque, im not sure what bootloader i use, it came with ubuntu 6.06 i believe, and it still thinks thats what os i use.
[10:48] <sparr> roycebarber: the boot loader configuration doesnt technically have anything to do with your actual ubuntu version, you could put Ubuntu 17.35 in your menu.lst if you wanted
[10:49] <roycebarber> haha
[10:49] <eyequeue> edgy, look on the cd download page of your favorite mirror for descriptions of "desktop" "alternate" and "server" isos
[10:49] <Xteven> gug
[10:49] <NineTeen67Comet> Little question about dual monitors and games .. Is there a way to kick the game down to just one? They keep centering on the split between monitors and it makes it hard to exit the game let alone play it .. Help?
[10:49] <Xteven> I have an ubuntu 6.06 that keeps crashing on me, for no apparent reason :(
[10:49] <eyequeue> edgy, "desktop" is basically filled up with all that live stuff, so no room for many debs really.  alternate has the power :)
[10:50] <roycebarber> I cant move my GMAIL Notifier icon when the program is running. It likes to live in the top right of my screen. anyone know how to move it?
[10:50] <edgy> eyequeue: ok thx I got it now
[10:51] <eyequeue> edgy, good luck :)
[10:51] <roycebarber> Anyone have an answer for NineTeen67Comet? I'm afraide that might happen to me.
[10:52] <Xteven> when a sata disk shows errors in smartctl, could that be a reason why it hangs sometimes ? because it hung up without extra errors in smartctl too
[10:53] <roycebarber> Do I ever need to run Defrag in Linux? I had to run it in windows all the time.
[10:53] <FRET> good morning
[10:53] <samu2> i noticed another strange thing... the top 3 rows of the character '6' are missing when i am in a textmode terminal...
[10:54] <eyequeue> roycebarber, what is it?
[10:55] <rc-1> my bios screen/splash screen are all messed up, and other video errors too, (also in windows) do you think i need a new graphics card?
[10:55] <samu2> What's the main package for xfce?
[10:56] <Wizardling> Does the new version of Ubuntu finally work on old CRT iMacs without workarounds?
[10:56] <roycebarber> Eyeqye, defrag is a windows program that organizes the files on the hard drive so they can be accessed faster. im not entirly sure how it does it, i think it simply puts the files near the center of the circular hard drive platter, so they read quicker. i dont know if linux has Defragmentation, so i guess i'll have to look around.
[10:57] <enquest> Has anybody run into a bug, with 6.06 lts. The date changed today from 1 nov to 01 jan 2001 2 o'clock
[10:57] <eyequeue> roycebarber, common linux filesystems have no need for defragmenting
[10:57] <eyequeue> roycebarber, ext3 for example
[10:59] <Cyron> roycebarber, it does it by making sure all the bits of a given file are physically located beside each other on the hard drive so it can read it in one sweep of the head over the platter
[10:59] <mjr> 21
[10:59] <Whoopie> Seveas: Hi, where can I find a package for your falcon repository?
[10:59] <lobosque> hey guys! im trying to watch a movie but it says that i need a decoder... and i downloaded a lot... for divx, for mpeg1 and mpeg2... but the movie still not playing!!
[11:00] <eyequeue> !seveas > Whoopie
[11:03] <eyequeue> !seveas > Whoopie_
[11:03] <Juhaz> sparr, baobab is hardly the first gnome disk space usage analyzer ever. gdmap for example is as old as kdirstat (~5 years), big deal if something has official flag.
[11:04] <Whoopie_> eyequeue: thanks, I found his repo before. but I can't find a package to install falcon to setup an own repo.
[11:04] <Solopher> (:
[11:05] <jpjacobs> Hi guys! I want to know how to roll my own debs (without checkinstall). I've got only compiled binaries in a tree which were supposed to extracted directly in to / (but i don't like that)
[11:05] <apokryphos> jpjacobs: /msg ubotu packaging
[11:06] <sparr> Juhaz: im talking about the graphical part.  the rest is just "du" in a pretty wrapper
[11:06] <samu2> ok, i tried installing xfce but even then i get thrown out to the gdm immediately...
[11:06] <samu2> i really don't know what's wrong now
[11:08] <typecast> hi
[11:08] <lobosque> hey guys! im trying to watch a movie but it says that i need a decoder... and i downloaded a lot... for divx, for mpeg1 and mpeg2... but the movie still not playing!!
[11:08] <Xteven> can anyone tell me how netconsole works in ubuntu ? I passed it the netconsole= parameter with all my config, and I get nothing
[11:09] <typecast> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kopete/+bug/69583 <--- when will this fix go into the official ubuntu-archives?
[11:09] <eyequeue> Whoopie, http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/pool/dapper-seveas/extras/falcon_1.5.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[11:10] <CheekyBoinc> Good Morning
[11:10] <cfm> Hi all. Is there a way to determine the physical configuration of RAM in my Ubuntu box without opening the box? I've checked /proc/meminfo, dmesg and the usual suspects in /var/log.
[11:11] <mygod> where is the .xchm
[11:11] <|thunder> mygod; 'locate *.xchm'
[11:12] <lobosque> hey guys! im trying to watch a movie but it says that i need a decoder... and i downloaded a lot... for divx, for mpeg1 and mpeg2... but the movie still not playing!!
[11:12] <lastnode> how do i completley purge a package so it will re-download it from the repos?
[11:13] <lastnode> (instead of installing it from a cache)
[11:13] <lastnode> !divx > lobosque
[11:14] <Juhaz> sparr, nautilus already had a tree for a while before baobab was included. maybe year or so
[11:15] <eyequeue> lastnode, sudo dpkg --purge foo
[11:15] <minetus> hi, can someone help me? i need to make some kernel adjustments (see http://gul.est.ips.pt/downloads/octal/octal_howto.pdf step 3) but i dont know how to
[11:15] <mygod> i can't find it
[11:15] <sparr> Juhaz: not a tree, a treeview
[11:16] <eyequeue> lastnode, sudo apt-get clean, before your install command
[11:16] <sparr> err
[11:16] <sparr> a treeMAP
[11:16] <sparr> my bad  :)
[11:16] <Xteven> where can I set kernel module parameters for modules to be loaded at boottime, in ubuntu ?
[11:16] <sparr> not the best time of day for me to be remembering technical terms
[11:16] <mygod> I can't find the path where the .xchm is
[11:16] <Juhaz> sparr, which is just what the 2001 gdmap also does...
[11:17] <sparr> interesting.  and this is part of gnome?
[11:18] <HeathenDan> what's a good program for copying a vcd to an iso file?
[11:18] <sparr> HeathenDan: dd
[11:18] <HeathenDan> dd?
[11:18] <eyequeue> dd (1)               - convert and copy a file
[11:18] <eyequeue> dd (1posix)          - convert and copy a file
[11:18] <sparr> dd the cdrom drive device to a file
[11:18] <jpjacobs> thx apokryphos
[11:19] <sparr> .iso == image of ISO9660 filesystem
[11:20] <HeathenDan> dd is command line? does it have man?
[11:20] <sparr> yes.  yes.
[11:20] <HeathenDan> ok, lemme go read it then
[11:20] <sparr> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=something.iso
[11:20] <sparr> that should work, dont think you need any other options for a plain iso image
[11:21] <HeathenDan> alrighty, thx
[11:22] <johnema> hi
[11:22] <HeathenDan> hmm, does it have verbose mode?
[11:22] <johnema> do you have a rich sources.list for ubuntu edgy ??
[11:25] <HeathenDan> this doesn't look right... the output iso is only 300kB
[11:25] <boink> rich? like in a lot of money?
[11:25] <gnarula> can someone help me?? i cannot see the gaim icon in top panel when i close gaim..
[11:26] <samu2> Is it possible to scroll up in a textmode terminal somehow?
[11:26] <boink> samu2: you could use tools like "less"
[11:26] <boink> man less
[11:26] <eyequeue> samu2, , pgup
[11:26] <samu2> Or can you only pipe output to some pager program?
[11:27] <eyequeue> samu2, sometimes shift-pgup
[11:28] <samu2> eyequeue oh that worked, thanks
[11:28] <eyequeue> samu2, np
[11:29] <samu2> So.. now I can't login to any window managers.  What can I do to kill the gdm stuff gracefully?
[11:29] <eyequeue> samu2, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:31] <ozzloy> how do i make my laptop automatically connect to one of the locations i've set when it returns from hibernate?
[11:32] <ozzloy> i'll be in one location, hibernate, resuscitate in another location that i frequent
[11:33] <ozzloy> what's the proper word for coming back from hibernation?
[11:33] <samu2> meh, system totally crashed again
[11:33] <radu> hi, how can I make my X so that it uses both my monitors?
[11:35] <eyequeue> in edgy xchat, how do i tell it to use firefox for viewing urls, not dillo?
[11:37] <scheuri> !pastebin
[11:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:38] <webben> eyequeue: probably System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[11:39] <eyequeue> webben, already set to firefox there :(  but i get dillo from xchat, and can't see where that's set
[11:40] <webben> eyequeue: this is XChat-GNOME IRC isn't it?
[11:40] <eyequeue> webben, minus the gnome
[11:40] <eyequeue> webben, xchat 2.6.6
[11:40] <webben> eyequeue: oh it's normal xchat ... i can't remember now it's in the preferences somewhere
[11:41] <webben> eyequeue: if you can't find it, ask in #xchat
[11:41] <eyequeue> webben, yeah, i don't see it at all in 2.6.6
[11:41] <eyequeue> hmmm, i wonder if it's something that's only sourced on program start ... if i need to exit and restart xchat :/
[11:41] <eyequeue> brb
[11:42] <Icoo> guys I finnaly got my Wifi card running yesterday and I installed wifi-radar (network-manager didn't find anything), and Wifi-radar finds my network...but I can't connect
[11:43] <Icoo> it says aquring IP adress...does that a few seconds and then stops
[11:45] <Rookie> !beryl
[11:45] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[11:45] <jatt> I've a problem with the konsole available fonts in edgy. Settings->Font->Select shows only six different fonts available, although there are more fonts installed and configured in my machine.
[11:46] <jatt> gnome-terminal shows in Edit->Current Profile->Font at least 20 different fonts.
[11:46] <Icoo> guys I finnaly got my Wifi card running yesterday and I installed wifi-radar (network-manager didn't find anything), and Wifi-radar finds my network...but I can't connect
[11:46] <Icoo> guys I finnaly got my Wifi card running yesterday and I installed wifi-radar (network-manager didn't find anything), and Wifi-radar finds my network...but I can't connect
[11:46] <Icoo> sorry
[11:47] <Icoo> double post
[11:47] <newbie> yay..just installed UBUNTU!
[11:47] <ghos[t] > Congrats!!
[11:47] <newbie> just wondering, tried to use Rhytm box
[11:47] <newbie> and it didnt play songs from my ipod
[11:47] <newbie> any hints?
[11:48] <susscorfa> !ipod
[11:48] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[11:48] <znejk> !i810
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <newbie> ah ok thanks..its not so much about syncing and stuff..i just cant play
[11:48] <newbie> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[11:50] <susscorfa> i don't know about that newbie
[11:50] <minetus> hi, can someone help me? i need to make some kernel adjustments (see http://gul.est.ips.pt/downloads/octal/octal_howto.pdf step 3) but i dont know how to, does anyone know what i can do ? thanx?
[11:51] <eyequeue> okay, the solution was sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[11:51] <eyequeue> very non-intuitive
[11:51] <edgy> Hi, how can I set my shell to redirect the command errors to a file by default. so instead of doing ./a.out 2>err-file I just do ./a.out?
[11:53] <Icoo> guys I finnaly got my Wifi card running yesterday and I installed wifi-radar (network-manager didn't find anything), and Wifi-radar finds my network...but I can't connect
[11:53] <Icoo> it says aquring IP adress...does that a few seconds and then stops
[11:55] <smoenux> Hey everyone ^.^
[11:55] <kzm> Hmm...upgrading problem: trying to go from breezy to edgy (yeah, I know).  /sbin/vol_id was previously owned by udev, in edgy it belongs to volumeid.