[01:50] <G> olly: not bad, that said, even 5 yeras ago when I got mine I think I had it nearly within a week
[01:50] <G> (paid standard fee too - for context)
[01:53] <olly> this was just the standard fee too
[19:18] <olly> morning
[20:42] <G> morning
[22:07] <chilts> morning


[21:02] <jphilips> hi all. hope you are all well and staying safe.
[21:03] <jphilips> just wanted to notify you all that the 20.04.2 torrent link on the alternative downloads page isn't linking to the <IP_ADDRESS> bug fix release https://kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads
[21:05] <jphilips> valorie, RikMills, @ahoneybun: ^^^
[21:15] <valorie> thank you, jphilips
[21:15] <valorie> who can fix that, do you know?
[21:15] <jphilips> the url of the link just needs to be changed
[21:16] <valorie> but by whom?
[21:16] <valorie> is it correct here? https://torrent.ubuntu.com/tracker_index
[21:16] <jphilips> the correct torrent is here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/20.04.2/release/
[21:16] <valorie> that's what I usually use since it is so easy to get them all at once
[21:17] <valorie> but I'm thinking for all the flavors, not just us
[21:17] <jphilips> the file was created on the 11th
[21:17] <jphilips> each flavor is different and they would have to update the link on their website
[21:17] <jphilips> it was updated on the xubuntu page yesterday
[21:17] <valorie> it's fine, we can fix our website
[21:18] <valorie> but it is the correct link being published by Ubuntu?
[21:18] <valorie> that's my question
[21:18] <jphilips> unfortunate for us, the old torrent file was removed, so we had people complain that the link landed at a 404
[21:18] <valorie> we can fix our stuff, but we don't control the Ubuntu website
[21:19] <valorie> I guess I will ask in -release before I seed torrents
[21:19] <jphilips> presume ubuntu would have fixed in on their site
[21:19] <jphilips> it was mentioned here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2021-February/000265.html
[21:19] <valorie> cool
[21:22] <jphilips> the checkum line for 20.04 will also need to be updated on the page :D
[21:30] <valorie> thanks jphilips
[21:30] <jphilips> glad to help
[21:30] <valorie> I think it is mparillo who fixes that? or @ahoneybun?
 We both can do it. I'll do it if I get to it first. Helping the gf with the hair for V-Day night out.
[21:31] <valorie> fun!
[21:32] <valorie> have a great time, you two
[21:32] <valorie> and wear your masks!
[21:32] <valorie> and obv., wear a condom
[21:32] <valorie> <3
 Be careful about where you put which
[21:33] <jphilips> luckily the .iso link on the main download page was already fixed, so it isn't a major rush
[21:33] <jphilips> lol
[21:33] <valorie> @Sick_Rimmit, lol
 @Valoriez {{{hug}}} love us 🥰
[21:38] <jphilips> if you guys/gals hadn't seen this https://twitter.com/omgubuntu/status/1360947752486776839
[21:44] <valorie> nice
[21:44] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} to @Sick_Rimmit
 oh god @Valoriez lol
 valorie
[21:48] <valorie> :-)
 Should be good now I believe.
 The page link that is.
 No mini-aaron's for now.
 @jphilips, I can't view tweets from that account lol
[21:55] <jphilips> @ahoneybun: https://imgur.com/Qtdkcwo.png
 Thank you I did see the preview that Telegram provided.
 My  bad!
 https://github.com/ahoneybun/Arch-LUKS-systemd-boot-install : valorie I have a problem lol.
[21:58] <valorie> arch people rarely admit that!
[21:59] <valorie> the first step in recovery is admitting that there is a problem.....
[21:59] <valorie> :-)
[21:59] <jphilips> :D
[21:59] <jphilips> have a good evening all.
[22:00] <valorie> ciao!
 Haha but at least docs have come out from the problem lol
[22:00] <valorie> @Ahoneybun kudos to you for solving your issues and providing others with your solution
 \o/
[22:11] <valorie> https://twitter.com/valoriez/status/1361075516757790723
[22:11] <valorie> yesterday & today
 It was like -1F this morning and I'm like the heck.
 @valorie, LMAO 😅
[22:22] <valorie> :-)
 (Photo, 1086x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0CDK0Vnj/file_41519.jpg
[22:22] <valorie> awwwww
[22:22] <valorie> you are cute together
[22:22] <valorie> and you both look happy
[22:22] <valorie> that's the important bit right there
[23:24] <mparillo> I updated the SHA256 checksum. It looks as if somebody got to the torrent link.


[16:02] <Guest2> Hi everyone,
[16:02] <Guest2> I would like to like ubuntu budgie on my desktop, but when I install it it only sees 1 screen and not my 2nd how can that be ?
[17:17] <Guest2> Hi everyone,
[17:17] <Guest2> I would like to like ubuntu budgie on my desktop, but when I install it it only sees 1 screen and not my 2nd how can that be ?
[17:19] <fossfreedom> This isn't a support channel ... Try #ubuntu


[00:02] <knome> hey stgraber
[00:02] <knome> stgraber, did you notice my bugfixes to the trackers (in the main branch, waiting to be pushed upstream)
[00:04] <stgraber> knome: I noticed your IRC ping at that time but haven't had the chance to look into it.
[00:04] <knome> oki
[00:04] <knome> the JS files itself are tested and will work;
[00:04] <knome> what you should review is how they are called in the module; i think i have it finally right..
[05:58] <pitti> Good morning
[06:01] <elfy> good morning pitti :)
[06:01] <pitti> hey elfy, how are you?
[06:02] <elfy> I'm good thanks - glad that xubuntu have finally decided what to do about ibus
[06:02]  * elfy was worried about releasing with that
[06:03] <elfy> in other news - back to work today after week off :(
[06:04] <pitti> elfy: hah, did you enjoy you holidays?
[06:05] <elfy> it was a break - poor as a church mouse I am :)
[06:06] <elfy> pitti: actually I work p/t so I have 2 weeks a month off - but my week starts on a thursday ...
[07:01] <jibel> Good morning
[07:03] <knome> morning jibel
[07:04] <jibel> good morning knome
[07:04] <elfy> morning jibel knome
[07:04] <knome> allö elfy
[07:09] <jibel> hey elfy
[08:39] <pitti> jibel: hah, this time it's you who are too fast on the "retry" trigger :)
[08:39] <pitti> (udisks, nova)
[08:47] <jibel> pitti, heh, actually we should have a bot which restarts the tests if it fails on one arch and not on the other
[09:39] <davmor2> jibel: we doing yet another round of testing today or is RC ready?
[09:43] <jibel> davmor2, if you have time, sure. We should test every image until the release.
[09:44] <davmor2> jibel: no worries, I'm off tomorrow though :)
[09:47] <jibel> davmor2, cool, you won't be bothered by phone testing then. That leaves you plenty of time for desktop ;)
[09:48] <davmor2> jibel: HA!! Not a pray I won't be anywhere near a computer all day,  I'm going outside,  I know I didn't think it existed either :)
[19:07] <Letozaf_> elopio, hello
[19:08] <elopio> hey Letozaf_ how are you?
[19:08] <Letozaf_> elopio, I'm fine and you ?
[19:09] <elopio> good
[19:09] <elopio> Letozaf_: I had just opened your branch 15 minutes ago
[19:09] <Letozaf_> elopio, how is it ?
[19:09] <elopio> Letozaf_: it looks very good.
[19:10] <elopio> just some more details
[19:10] <Letozaf_> elopio, I had some doubts about those two methods you wanted me to be private
[19:10] <elopio> Letozaf_: you asked that if you made the helpers private in emulators.py, you shouldn't call them from the test
[19:11] <elopio> that's precisely the idea :)
[19:11] <Letozaf_> elopio, oh! so probalby I misunderstood :P
[19:11] <elopio> you should move open_feed_item and get_article_count to emulators.py, and those are the methods you call from the test.
[19:12] <Letozaf_> elopio, oh fine I will
[19:12] <elopio> Letozaf_: another thing is that you removed the assertion at the end of the test
[19:12] <elopio> we need to check something, but I'm not sure what's the thing you want to check here.
[19:14] <Letozaf_> elopio, I wanted to check that the count property of the article view was greater than 0 before opening a feed it is 0
[19:14] <Letozaf_> elopio, so if the feed is opened is should be greater than 0
[19:14] <Letozaf_> elopio, I put that in get_current_article_count
[19:15] <elopio> Letozaf_: ok, that could work. But as we are testing from the user point of view here, it sounds that it would be better to check that the article you opened is visible.
[19:15] <Letozaf_> elopio, and also get_current_index should assert that the current_index property is greater than -1
[19:15] <Letozaf_> elopio, yes that is true
[19:15] <elopio> so, on pseudocode, something like: assertEqual(get_current_article().title, 'blah')
[19:16] <elopio> Letozaf_: and I have a question.
[19:17] <elopio> are you calling ensure_list_view_mode because open_feed_item only works in list view?
[19:17] <Letozaf_> elopio, yes
[19:17] <elopio> Letozaf_: so, what would you think about this:
[19:17] <elopio> - move ensure_grid_view_mode to emulators.py, probably to MainView
[19:18] <elopio> - on the first statement inside open_feed_item, call ensure_grid_view_mode
[19:19] <Letozaf_> elopio, ok fine I will make the changes you suggested
[19:20] <elopio> Letozaf_: I'm throwing a lot of things to you, I hope you are not hating me :)
[19:20] <Letozaf_> elopio, no instead thanks for teaching me how to do things correctly
[19:21] <elopio> as I said, the test is good, so if you feel that it would be better to land it and then improve it little by little, that's fine by me.
[19:21] <Letozaf_> elopio, I think you are only trying to make tests better
[19:21] <Letozaf_> elopio, let's do it the way you think is better :P
[19:23] <Letozaf_> elopio, so I will fix it as you suggested so you can see if it's ok first
[19:23] <elopio> Letozaf_: yes, thanks!
[19:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, o/
[19:23] <Letozaf_> elopio, ok
[19:29]  * elopio <- lunch break
[19:59] <balloons> Letozaf_, howdy
[19:59] <Letozaf_> balloons, fine and you ?
[20:00] <balloons> Letozaf_, sunburned, tired, good to be home :-)
[20:00] <elfy> hi balloons - welcome back
[20:00] <elfy> they brought release forward to tomorrow - hope you're realdy :p
[20:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, lucky you :D
[20:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, here it not hot to sun tan yet, maybe in a few weeks
[20:04] <balloons> elfy, :-)
[21:27] <phillw> balloons: how can you forward an email for RC when the iso tracker is not RC ?
[21:28] <phillw> makes me look like an idiot when I take on trust emails from you and post them to social media :(
[21:42] <balloons> phillw, ? final RC images will come after the freeze of course
[21:44] <phillw> balloons: is okay.... they froze tonight, but there is no deffinate answer as to when they will make an RC... the cron should be turned off, but then who will make the build?
[21:45] <balloons> phillw, I expect an RC by Monday morning.. sometime between now and Monday it will get started
[21:45] <balloons> the earliest would be tomorrow
[21:45] <phillw> and, of course... release will be 17th :P
[21:46] <phillw> to hell with the testers....


[03:51] <saya> hey
[03:52] <saya> anybody is here ?
[07:43] <hereiamsorryandh> Bought an old computer. When I boot from live USB, the screen says something like 'the current screenmode isn't supported, change it to 1920x1080@60Hz'
[07:43] <hereiamsorryandh> Booted again but choosed 'safe graphics'. And everything is okay. Is that a big problem? Can it be easily fixed?
[07:46] <hereiamsorryandh> If I install it now, will it boot successfully? If it won't, what shall I do?
[07:51] <unkindledOne> hey
[07:54] <unkindledOne> dead chat?
[07:55] <well_laid_lawn> !ask
[10:00] <hereiamsorryandh> I installed Xubuntu choosing 'safe graphics', now it boots fine, but the monitor says ATTENTION
[10:00] <hereiamsorryandh> This video mode cannot be displayed. Change the display resolution to 1920x1080@60Hz
[10:00] <hereiamsorryandh> That's why I can't see anything. How to fix that permanently?
[21:09] <xu-irc52w> HOLA ALGUNO DESPIERTO?


[05:37] <stub> tvansteenburgh, marcoceppi : I broke your Jenkins
[06:04] <weblife> Thought someone here may appreciate this: https://mastersproject.info/blog/54de76fb03b198870a6daa12
[06:12] <trave> anyone around here connect juju into digitalocean, using kapilt/juju-digitalocean ? i feel that i am close, just having trouble with it timing out.
[07:51] <trave> after setting up a free-tier account on AWS, things work like a charm. thanks anyway :]
[08:55] <lazyPower> trave: i have successfully use/am-using digital ocean w/ the plugin
[08:56] <lazyPower> if you're still on that path. the AWS account provider is however one of the more stable/tried/tested providers in the toolbox
[09:09] <trave> lazyPower, yea, i was likely pretty close with digitalocean, just wasnt picking up my ssh_key identity .pub name or something.. but this AWS path seems pretty stable. I take it the m1.small is about $18/mo.? Just to get my feet wet, how many charms can I throw at one of those instances? I want to toy with IO.js and Redis.
[09:09] <lazyPower> trave: give or take - Digital Ocean is fairly straight forward once you get the flow - and i've found that often i have to manuallya dd the machines myself since the provisioning of VM's takes longer than their highly touted 60 seconds
[09:10] <lazyPower> juju add-machine ssh:root@host
[09:10] <lazyPower> then its in the pool of available machines - however - to answer your aws question - 2 machines (1 for bootstrap, 1 for your apps/containers)
[09:10] <trave> maybe thats all im missing there, is it doing a timeout when im boostrapping the first instance... now that ive spun up and destroyed a few attempts on AWS, i think i might go back to trying D.O. again
[09:11] <lazyPower> i'll be around if you want help troubleshooting
[09:11] <trave> cool, thanks man :]
[09:11] <lazyPower> their provisioner gets wonky late at night
[09:11] <lazyPower> maintenance windows and all that
[09:12] <trave> yea, i might catch some zzzs soon, still got work in the a.m. but feel accomplished having waded my way this far, so far.
[09:12] <lazyPower> http://blog.dasroot.net/juju-digital-ocean-awesome.html
[09:12] <lazyPower> i did a fairly decent writeup of the flow to get moving w/ juju on DO
[09:13] <lazyPower> but that also was submitted for the official docs - so not much to do here other than boost my analytics :)
[09:13] <trave> Oh yes, I did watch that, which is what got me as far as I did. :D thanks for putting that together, maybe i'll absorb more the second time watching it
[09:14] <lazyPower> trave: allright - i'll be off on another work station so ping me if you need me for anything.
[09:28] <trave> lazyPower: probably a dumb question, but heres where i get stuck when spinning up a new digitalocean-0 bootstrap instance... it asks for the root password, even though ive specified an ENV_VAR for DO_SSH_KEY, (do I need to add .pub to the end of that value?) Since I dont yet know what that instances generated root password is, do I let it hang there for a bit while I use the DO UI to go reset that to something else which emails it to me?
[09:28] <lazyPower> ah, no - you probably need to add your SSH key to DigitalOcean's admin web ui so it loads that into the instance(s)
[09:29] <trave> Its listed in there, strange.
[09:29] <lazyPower> http://i.imgur.com/dBakNhu.png
[09:30] <lazyPower> what version of the plugin do you ahve installed with pip? 0.5.1 assuming?
[09:30] <trave> yea, ive got it in there, and ive used it successfully before scp'ing it to my other instance by hand before.
[09:30] <trave> checking..
[09:32] <trave> juju-docean==0.5.1
[09:32] <lazyPower> juju version 1.21.1?
[09:32] <trave> 1.18.4-unknown-amd64
[09:32] <lazyPower> whoa, thats crusty
[09:32] <trave> ;]
[09:32] <lazyPower> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:juju/stable
[09:33] <trave> im on osx
[09:33] <lazyPower> ah
[09:33] <lazyPower> we're shipping 1.18 on mac still? wat
[09:33]  * lazyPower makes note to follow up on that later today
[09:34] <lazyPower> it should still work regardless - the manual provider code hasn't changed.
[09:34] <lazyPower> let me check the bug tracker on hazmat's repo real fast, 1 sec
[09:34] <trave> i'll try the --devel flag
[09:34] <lazyPower> ehh
[09:34] <lazyPower> lets stick with 1.18 for the time being until i can verify
[09:34] <trave> k :]
[09:35] <lazyPower> ah
[09:35] <lazyPower> is the key you're using to authenticate against docean ~/.ssh/id_rsa?
[09:35] <trave> i named it something else
[09:35] <trave> i can make an id_rsa
[09:35] <lazyPower> i bet thats why its having a derp moment
[09:35] <lazyPower> https://github.com/kapilt/juju-digitalocean/issues/29
[09:36] <trave> aha, you da man.
[09:36] <trave> k, making new key, trying again.
[09:47] <trave> well, it did something different at least: juju_docean.exceptions.ProviderError: Failed to get running instance digitalocean-0 event: {u'status': u'OK', u'event': {u'droplet_id': 4177198, u'percentage': u'90', u'event_type_id': 1, u'id': 43954384, u'action_status': None}}
[09:47] <trave> ERROR exit status 1
[09:47] <lazyPower> it timed out - thats in relation to this: https://github.com/kapilt/juju-digitalocean/issues/27
[09:48] <lazyPower> it gets pokey now and again unfortunately
[09:48] <trave> k, trying agin :]
[10:01] <lazyPower> hit paydirt yet trave?
[10:02] <trave> no, just what keeps seeming like timeouts
[10:02] <trave> you think the --devel build is in a unstable state?
[10:06] <lazyPower> i dont know
[10:06] <lazyPower> its worth a go
[10:07] <lazyPower> are tyou tracking the vm launch in a browser while you bootstrap?
[10:07] <trave> or, is 512MB memory/20GB disk the smallest tier that DO does, would spinnging up a smaller instance be faster at all to be under that 3min window?
[10:08] <trave> yea, i can see it spinning up a digitalocean-0 new instance, the CLI throws the error before its done provisioning that box
[10:08] <trave> my next feat will be to try out the --devel build, i bet it will work like a charm
[10:09] <lazyPower> eh
[10:09] <trave> ;]
[10:09] <lazyPower> its not a juju problem :( its a DO problem atm
[10:09] <trave> yea
[10:09] <lazyPower> the only thing i can suggest is either keep trying until the APi gets un-pokey, or do a pure manual bootstrap
[10:09] <lazyPower> which is slightly more inconvenient
[10:09] <lazyPower> but it doesn't have any timing issues, you spin up the machine, specify the bootstrap host in your environments.yaml and you're off and running
[10:10] <trave> gotcha. yea, i'll try through the day tomorrow, maybe their performance is up during the peak hours
[10:10] <lazyPower> should be better then yeah.
[10:10] <lazyPower> its that or try a different DC
[10:10] <trave> yep, several more avenues to try, this is good for me to broaden my skillset and learn
[10:11] <trave> thank you so much for the help, youve been great
[10:11] <lazyPower> I'm sorry it hasn't been as smooth as cheddar tonight however
[10:11] <trave> i'll be around :]
[10:11] <lazyPower> if only everything were as reliable :)
[10:11] <trave> :D
[10:35] <trave> lazyPower: hey, a simple: brew uninstall juju; brew instal juju; now gives me version: 1.21.1-yosemite-amd64
[10:35] <lazyPower> \o/
[10:36] <trave> trying yet again ;]
[10:40] <trave> woot! bootstrap complete.
[10:40] <trave> is there any reason the examples show 2g memory for the bootstrap machine? this time I just used a 512m box, that should be fine, right?
[10:54] <lazyPower> yeah thats fine
[10:55] <lazyPower> the example was with constraints - and thats why you see the higher mem limit
[10:57] <trave> again, thanks. :]
[12:48] <lazyPower> hazmat: thanks for the reply, thats basically what i had figured. Juju isn't doing anything special outside of using the agent and falling back to that specified key
[12:49] <hazmat> lazyPower: its very badly documented in juju
[12:49] <hazmat>  search authorized-keys over here https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/config-general.html
[12:50] <hazmat> and afaics thats the only doc for it.
[12:51] <lazyPower> https://github.com/juju/docs/issues/268
[12:51] <lazyPower> left a TODO to follow up on. cheers
[12:52] <hazmat> lazyPower: thanks
[12:53] <hazmat> lazyPower: for the other issue i have a timeout option sitting in my working copy...
[12:53]  * lazyPower fist pumps
[12:53] <lazyPower> so we can see that branch land soon, very nice
[12:54] <lazyPower> i was considering pulling the repo this weekend and working on the v2api support if you haven't already looked into it and getting something shot over for review
[12:54] <lazyPower> i got sidetracked with my tinfoil hat, i must admit
[12:58] <lazyPower> hazmat: it may be prudent to close #29 as thats a juju issue and not a plugin issue.
[12:59] <lazyPower> unless you plan on supporting upload ssh key to DO and setting config to leverage that key
[13:48] <tvansteenburgh> stub: i killed that jenkins job
[13:51] <stub> tvansteenburgh: Ta.
[13:53] <stub> ERROR failed to bootstrap environment: cannot start bootstrap instance: no OS images found for location "West US", series "trusty", architectures ["amd64" "arm64" "armhf" "i386" "ppc64el"] (and endpoint: "https://management.core.windows.net/")
[13:53] <stub> I think the next one is doomed too
[13:54] <stub> Still, am interested in how things go with the other providers. I had some code paths not running under lxc that failed with the other providers.
[13:56] <tvansteenburgh> stub you want me to kill this one too?
[13:56] <stub> tvansteenburgh: Only if you think a retry will fix that error. 'no OS images found for location' doesn't fill me with confidence of it working today.
[13:58] <tvansteenburgh> stub: i'll let it run i guess. azure is the environment most often broken. it may work later though
[13:59] <stub> tvansteenburgh: How many environments are there btw? About 10?
[13:59] <tvansteenburgh> 5
[13:59] <tvansteenburgh> lxc, hp, awc, azure, joyent
[14:00] <stub> I might have told bundletester to run the unittests twice then.
[14:01] <tvansteenburgh> stub: well let me know if you need stuff killed or whatever, happy to help
[14:01] <stub> ta. This run looks happy for the next hour in any case.
[14:02] <tvansteenburgh> stub: also next time you want to start one, let me know, i want to try it on the new jenkins setup i've been working on
[14:02] <stub> ok
[14:13] <hazmat> lazyPower: definitely not uploading people's public keys.. to much responsibility.. i'll close it out.
[15:12] <jcastro> jose, what day do you get to SCALE?
[15:12] <jose> jcastro: tomorrow 3pm local time
[15:12] <jose> I'm getting ready to fly out later today
[15:12] <jcastro> oh excellent, me and marcoceppi as well, we can just sit down and bash out the details of our talk
[15:12] <jcastro> which isn't until saturday anyway
[15:13] <jose> yeah, sounds good to me
[16:00] <lazyPower> marcoceppi: mbruzek, tvansteenburgh - whats our stance on incoming tests that only stand up the service? Enough to satisfy the requirement or do we gently guide them to write an actual functional test?  https://code.launchpad.net/~jose/charms/precise/quassel-core/add-tests/+merge/246001 <- is the test in question
[16:01] <lazyPower> I'm inclined to say the latter, but its not just my opinion here.
[16:01] <mbruzek> gently guide
[16:02] <mbruzek> lazyPower: even if he did a ps aux | grep quassel that would make me happy
[16:02] <lazyPower> yeah, we have enough weak tests i feel
[16:02] <lazyPower> +1
[16:03] <jose> +1 to that, nice tests are easy enough to make
[16:03] <jose> (I made those in a hurry since Paul wanted the charm approved and had no tests, no results yet)
[16:04] <mbruzek> ack
[16:04] <lazyPower> I promise this wasn't a poke @ your effort(s) jose :)
[16:04] <jose> question, though
[16:04] <jose> should 'simple' tests be renamed to 10-deploy, or should I keep them as 99-autogen?
[16:05] <lazyPower> if you're not doing anything to actually validate, the 99-autogen gives me a clear indicator of what's been done
[16:07] <jose> ok
[16:29] <marcoceppi> jose: yeah, leave them as 99-autogen, we'll be sniffing that out in the future to find charms that need better tests and it makes it so we can track unmaintained charms
[16:29] <jose> ok
[17:28] <stub> tvansteenburgh: Do you recall what constraints the test vms have? I can install the charm on our local OpenStack, but with little RAM the install hook fails due to the OOM killer.
[17:29] <stub> tvansteenburgh: I don't think I'm going to get anything more useful out of this build, so you can kill it. I might have hung it again too sorry.
[17:29] <stub> tvansteenburgh: Happy to have it kicked off in your new Jenkins if you want to give it a workout.
[17:30] <tvansteenburgh> stub: will do
[17:30] <tvansteenburgh> stub: in the new setup we bootstrap with mem=2G by default
[17:31] <stub> I'll test that here. I know it fails with 1G, and installs with 8G
[17:31] <stub> I may be able to tune the requirements down at my end if it is needed.
[17:32] <tvansteenburgh> stub: http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/computer/charm-bundle-slave/
[17:32] <stokachu> jcastro: lazyPower do you guys know if juju http proxy settings are exposed in charms?
[17:33] <stokachu> for things like wget to make use of
[17:33] <lazyPower> I'm not sure tbh
[17:33] <jcastro> yeah, that's a good question
[17:33] <tvansteenburgh> stub: new tests running, the main job kicks off one job per substrate
[17:33] <stub> tvansteenburgh: Oh, cool. No more interleaving of output.
[17:33] <lazyPower> tvansteenburgh: is my docker test still in the queue or did it get wiped?
[17:33] <stub> lazyPower: Its running now
[17:33]  * lazyPower does a dance
[17:33] <lazyPower> ta
[17:34] <stub> lazyPower: oh, it *was* running
[17:34] <tvansteenburgh> stub: yeah, much better for several reasons. will be the default soonish
[17:34] <lazyPower> stokachu: i'm reasonably certain that if its set as an env variable it will be, however it would be best to confirm with someone like wwitzel3
[17:34] <tvansteenburgh> lazyPower: pfft i thought that was stub's job and killed it
[17:35] <lazyPower> tvansteenburgh: >.>
[17:35] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/430865/juju-http-proxy-and-no-proxy-settings
[17:35] <tvansteenburgh> lazyPower:  what was the test url
[17:35] <jcastro> stokachu, ^^^
[17:35] <jcastro> "The proxy options are exported in all hook execution contexts, and also available in the shell through "juju ssh" or "juju run"."
[17:35] <lazyPower> tvansteenburgh: i didnt get one, i kicked it off from the revq
[17:36] <tvansteenburgh> lazyPower: if it's any consolation, it had just started
[17:36] <stokachu> jcastro: ah nice find!
[17:36] <tvansteenburgh> lazyPower: no i mean the url of the thing being tested
[17:36] <lazyPower> https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1413775
[17:36] <mup> Bug #1413775: New Charm - Docker <Juju Charms Collection:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1413775>
[17:38] <tvansteenburgh> lazyPower: is this it? lp:~lazypower/charms/trusty/docker/trunk
[17:38] <lazyPower> yep
[17:38] <stub> manual deploy to openstack vm with 2G seems ok, no oom
[17:39] <tvansteenburgh> lazyPower: queued up behind stub's jobs in the new queue
[17:39] <lazyPower> ta
[17:43] <stub> @    WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!     @
[17:45] <stub> tvansteenburgh: You may need to have the authorized_keys scrubbed between jobs, like http://paste.ubuntu.com/10276641/
[17:45] <stub> or just nuke both of them entirely I guess
[17:46] <stub> oh, here it goes...
[17:46]  * stub watches his job on hp
[17:51] <tvansteenburgh> stub: yeah good point
[17:52] <stub> DEBUG:runner:2015-02-17 17:37:21 Error getting env api endpoints, env bootstrapped?
[17:52] <stub> The lxc job bombed
[17:53]  * tvansteenburgh looks
[18:02] <stub> grr... my install hook failed on joyent, but I can't reproduce locally or on our openstack :-/
[18:03] <tvansteenburgh> stub: no idea what happened on lxc, it's running again here http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/charm-bundle-test-lxc/8/console
[18:04] <stub> ta
[18:05] <tvansteenburgh> stub: we're capturing all-machines.log at the end of the tests now, that might yield a clue re joyent
[18:05] <stub> tvansteenburgh: It should, ya.
[18:06] <stub> I think Cassandra is crashing and we are waiting for the install hook to timeout and fail, rather than slow bootstrapping.
[18:07] <sh00k> I have what seems  like a pretty dumb question that I'm hoping someone in here might be able to help with me. I already have an environment configured and a machine bootstrapped in EC2. I am now on a different client machine and want to connect to the existing environment/bootstrap. I've already tried migrating the entire 'juju' folder to the other client machine, but I am getting an error back when trying to run 'juju status' of: WARNING discar
[18:07] <sh00k> 70/environment/d4c68949-2e62-4604-8aa2-xxxxxxxxxxxxx/api"
[18:07] <sh00k> ERROR Unable to connect to environment "aws".
[18:07] <sh00k> Please check your credentials or use 'juju bootstrap' to create a new environmen
[18:07] <sh00k> t.
[18:07] <sh00k> Error details:
[18:07] <sh00k> no instances found" any thoughts?
[18:09] <lazyPower> sh00k: did your $JUJU_HOME/environments/aws.jenv make it during the copy?
[18:09] <lazyPower> if it did, are you able to ping the ip of the state server?
[18:09] <sh00k> Yup, i double checked that - as well as the file permissions
[18:09] <sh00k> stand by let me try that
[18:11] <sh00k> Damn, so i'm guessing that's it. Ping requests timed out :/
[18:11] <lazyPower> that would be a key cause, if you rnetwork reachability isn't there.
[18:11] <lazyPower> its bit me a couple times too - dont feel like the lone stranger sh00k :)
[18:12] <sh00k> hahah thanks a lot
[18:16] <marcoceppi> tvansteenburgh: what do I need to change in the review queue for the new testing stuff?
[18:17] <tvansteenburgh> marcoceppi: new jenkins endpoint, and you'll get one callback per substrate now
[18:18] <marcoceppi> Docs for this?
[18:18] <tvansteenburgh> marcoceppi: HAHAHAHAH
[18:19] <marcoceppi> ROFL
[18:19] <tvansteenburgh> marcoceppi: i figured we could just bang it out at the sprint
[18:19] <marcoceppi> tvansteenburgh: I plan to make a bunch of changes this week to revq
[18:19] <marcoceppi> That works too
[18:19] <tvansteenburgh> marcoceppi: oh ok, i'll type something up
[18:20] <tvansteenburgh> sooner would be better i guess
[18:20] <tvansteenburgh> i'll document it
[18:20] <marcoceppi> Either way is fine. Does the old style work?
[18:20] <tvansteenburgh> the old one still works for now
[18:20] <marcoceppi> Rough docs are fine. Even a bunch of cmd outputs
[18:21] <tvansteenburgh> i haven't changed it, just built the new thing on the side
[18:21] <tvansteenburgh> ack re docs
[18:21] <marcoceppi> Cool
[18:21] <tvansteenburgh> lunch time
[18:42] <lazyPower> marcoceppi: the endpoint/json stuff you sent me will largely remain the same yes?
[18:44] <marcoceppi> lazyPower: yes, if it changes I'll let you know
[18:45] <marcoceppi> Will also be exposing more data
[18:45] <lazyPower> nice
[19:03] <lamont> will juju destroy-env reomve volumes that may have been attached to instances?
[19:03] <lamont> or simply detach?
[19:04] <lazyPower> simply detach
[19:04] <lazyPower> lamont: you're referring to extraneous volumes, such as those that are provided by block-storage-broker correct?
[19:04] <lazyPower> or additional block devices allocated to the node, not just the baseline disk that comes with the VM?
[19:05] <lamont> lazyPower: correct
[19:05] <lamont> specifically one taht our scripts euca-attache-volumes/
[19:06] <lazyPower> yeah, those are not deleted on machine termination
[19:06]  * lamont does hisdestroy-env then
[19:06] <lazyPower> lamont: take a snapshot to be safe :)
[19:06] <lamont> now you tell me.
[19:06] <lamont> volume still tehre,arked avaialble
[19:06] <lamont> woo typing!
[19:07]  * lazyPower grins
[19:07] <lazyPower> nothing like a dose of doubt right after you send a command no?
[19:07] <lazyPower> sorry about that - just happened to think its always better to err on the side of caution
[19:08] <lamont> yep
[19:08] <lamont> you were about 8 seconds after I said 'y'
[19:09] <lazyPower> i wont steer you wrong... on purpose.
[19:09] <lamont> hehe
[19:09] <lamont> alls well that ends well
[19:09] <lazyPower> however with storage landing in core soon - you might want to be a bit more persnickety about snapshotting before destroying things.
[19:10] <lazyPower> i'm not 100% sure how it will work, i'd need to fish up some planning docs
[20:45] <lazyPower> tvansteenburgh: did you kick off that test manually?
[20:45] <lazyPower> i ask because the bug hasn't been updated, and i assume that is a byproduct of how the test was run
[20:46] <tvansteenburgh> lazyPower: correct
[20:49] <tvansteenburgh> lazyPower: i expected to see the results here though, not sure why they're not http://reports.vapour.ws/charm-summary/docker
[20:49] <tvansteenburgh> jog might know
[20:49]  * jog looks
[21:10] <travnewmatic> hello all, i know there's a separate maas channel but i'm not getting any response on there
[21:10] <travnewmatic> can anyone help me with enlisting a node?
[21:11] <travnewmatic> the node boots from pxe, and ends up at an ubuntu login prompt, but it doesnt appear as a node in my maas contron panel on either the region controller or cluster controller
[21:12] <travnewmatic> i can ping the pxe'd node
[21:35] <tvansteenburgh> lazyPower: http://reports.vapour.ws/charm-summary/docker
[21:51] <marcoceppi> tvansteenburgh: that's awesome dude
[21:53] <tvansteenburgh> marcoceppi: what's awesome?
[21:53] <marcoceppi> tvansteenburgh: that URL
[21:53] <tvansteenburgh> ah, yeah, thank jog :)
[21:54] <marcoceppi> jog: sweet url
[21:56] <marcoceppi> awesomeee http://reports.vapour.ws/charm-summary/mysql
[21:56] <tvansteenburgh> marcoceppi: yeah, mysql has a long history of passing proof and lint!
[21:56] <marcoceppi> \o/
[21:57] <tvansteenburgh> lol
[22:44] <mwak> o/


[01:16] <jdong> #ubuntuforums done.
[01:23] <jdong> Pricey: I see an avatar in my head.... some sort of anime thing... man that's from like 2 years ago
[01:40] <Pricey> *head desks* at the new "4 more days" thread on the devel-discuss ML
[01:50] <Pricey> Hello Snuxoll?
[01:50] <Snuxoll> Hi Pricey
[01:50] <Pricey> How can I help?
[01:50] <Snuxoll> not really
[01:55] <Pici> Hes just mad because I banned him because he suggested that sysrq-b was an easter egg.
[01:56] <PriceChild> yeah he mentioned you'd banned him
[01:56] <Pici> Oh. He pm'ed you?
[01:56] <LjL> and a nice easter egg at that
[01:56] <Pici> Two people did it.
[01:56] <LjL> Pici: only because only two people could find the SysRq key
[01:56] <PriceChild> He did indeedy.
[01:57] <Pici> LjL: he said alt-printscreen-b to be exact ;)
[01:57] <LjL> uhm well, that explains why someone did it at all
[01:57] <LjL> with the compiz craze, some people now know where printscreen is ;)
[02:01] <PriceChild> LjL, I'm watching and poised.
[02:03] <LjL> PriceChild: poised?
[02:05] <LjL> inviting holycow here.
[02:05] <LjL> check bantracker.
[02:08] <holycow> alright
[02:08] <holycow> someone unban me please for #kubuntu
[02:08] <holycow> i was banned without just cause i believe
[02:08] <LjL> holycow, perhaps the folks here would like to see our private query to follow the events better, mind if i post it?
[02:08] <holycow> sure i don't mind at all
[02:09] <LjL> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40665/
[02:09] <holycow> i really wouldn't mind if you banned me for the bad word that fine
[02:10] <holycow> it would still be unjust as others don't get banned for a slipup here or there
[02:10] <LjL> holycow: i really did. but, instead, i decided to just kick you and give you a chance to show you understood why you were so much wrong
[02:10] <holycow> but you banned me because i refuse to cow tow
[02:10] <LjL> so basically, if i had banned you right away, you'd be ok with that... but instead i gave you a chance, you dissed it, and *that* is not ok.
[02:10] <holycow> i accepted the kick, i didn't say a word
[02:10] <LjL> that's the clue of what you're saying
[02:10] <holycow> no
[02:10] <LjL> yeah but being kicked doesn't mean it's up
[02:11] <holycow> its a clue that you guys just use the channels for personal gratification ...not all but its common
[02:11] <LjL> it can mean i want to discuss the behavior and make sure you understand you were wrong
[02:11] <LjL> you clearly didn't, so there's the ban
[02:11] <holycow> no, i refused to let yo ulecture me on my typing skills
[02:11] <holycow> this isn't kindergaden, and the channels aren't you rpersonal playground
[02:12] <holycow> you don't get the opportunity to twist every conversation where one must show respect to you as an op
[02:12] <holycow> its immoral
[02:12] <LjL> holycow: the !enter factoid is there in the bot, and part of our common policies. see !etiquette. if you don't like it because you feel it's "kindergarten", that's fine
[02:12] <LjL> go somewhere else
[02:12] <LjL> !etiquette
[02:12] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel?  Anyway, hope my social security number and credit card information arrived safelty
[02:22] <kerry> i dont understand
[02:23] <jdong> kerry: I think you do understand.
[02:23] <LjL> jdong: you'll get that villa in no time
[02:23] <LjL> kerry: yet you understand how to change idents very well.
[02:23] <LjL> seriously, go away
[02:23] <LjL> you aren't fooling anybody
[02:24] <LjL> jdong: wolves have better grammar though i'm sure. sheep too
[02:24] <LjL> ok, cheap shot
[02:24] <kerry> LjL: if your talking about adenicio his not there i'm kerry he just install linux on my pc and im looking how to install drivers for my ati card
[02:24] <LjL> y.....es.
[02:24] <LjL> look, i can tell IP addresses and idents.
[02:25] <jdong> aww I wanted to hear his complete evil-twin excuse!
[02:25] <jrib> how do we know it is him?
[02:25] <jdong> jrib: IP and behavior
[02:25] <LjL> jrib: perhaps based on the fact that it's the same IP (not hostmask, *exact* IP) he had one minute ago
[02:25] <jdong> jrib: his mannerisms appear IDENTICAL to wii
[02:25] <jdong> randomly flooding with weird emoticons, etc
[02:25] <LjL> and yeah, his mixture of bad french with bad english also gives it away
[02:26] <jdong> claiming he has some sort of question when he seeks to be unbanned
[02:26] <jrib> ah I see the earlier join now
[02:26] <jdong> if he wants to take on a new identity that's not a troll, I honestly don't care.... but he's a pretty bad actor this time around
[02:28] <jdong> " if your talking about adenicio..."
[02:28] <jdong> interesting, now we have a name?
[02:28] <LjL> *shrug*
[02:28] <holycow> so any comments on my request for an unban?
[02:31] <LjL> honestly i'm not sure any op who was in #kubuntu is awake, but if anyone else wants to check the logs...
[02:32] <Seeker`> I'm not a #kubuntu op, but I feel that the kick was justified, and everything after that was just arguing
[02:32] <jdong> LjL: you were there, right? I just looked over that interchange with you and found the attitude displayed by holycow to be incompliant with our guidelines
[02:32] <holycow> lol
[02:32] <holycow> attitude?
[02:33] <holycow> you guys aren't there to police attitude
[02:33] <holycow> you guys are there to police language
[02:33] <holycow> you cannot seriously insist that you have the RIGHT to police what is in anyones head?
[02:33] <jdong> ok, then your language use was appalling
[02:33] <holycow> one word was appaling
[02:33] <holycow> i got kicked
[02:33] <holycow> i realized my mistake and didn't make a fus
[02:33] <holycow> fuss even
[02:33] <jdong> holycow: we insist that we have the RIGHT to police the attitude you display in an official channel
[02:34] <holycow> c'mon, look at the end of the day its irc and it doesn't matter but it matters to me on this level
[02:34] <holycow> you guys cannot possibly insist that you have the moral righ to police attitude?
 you guys aren't there to police attitude - Yes we are.
[02:34] <Seeker`> holycow: attitude isn't "what is going on in your head", it is how you act in the channel
[02:34] <holycow> that is so contrary to to freedom that i ... well i have levels of feeling on this
 you cannot seriously insist that you have the RIGHT to police what is in anyones head? - No. But We have the right to police what you convey in our channels.
[02:34] <holycow> what?
[02:35] <holycow> what insane thinking is this?
[02:35] <jdong> holycow: you do not have absolute freedom to do whatever you want in an official Ubuntu channel... that is true.
[02:35] <PriceChild> holycow, You are free to do whatever you want as long as it abides by the guidelines.
[02:35] <holycow> how does this forward freedom?
[02:35] <holycow> it abides by the rules
[02:35] <holycow> i swore one word
[02:35] <holycow> thats it
[02:35] <PriceChild> holycow, Should I be free to ban anyone?
[02:35] <holycow> i refused to however play puppy to ljl
[02:35] <PriceChild> holycow, no... and we have guidelines for operators which they must abide by also.
[02:35] <LjL> holycow: we are *definitely* here to check your attitude
[02:35] <LjL> !attitude
[02:35] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:35] <holycow> absolutely but not because you hate the person
[02:35] <holycow> wow
[02:35] <holycow> this is seriously not good guys
[02:36] <holycow> i would honestly, and you know me well enough to know why i'm saying this, modify that approach
[02:36] <PriceChild> holycow, have you read the link that ubotu just gave you?
[02:36] <holycow> this isn't 1942 nazi germany
[02:36] <jdong> holycow: refusing to comply with channel operators is not helping your cause
[02:36] <PriceChild> *head desks*
[02:36] <holycow> PriceChild: only for like the 40 times you guys post stuff like that at me
[02:36] <LjL> PriceChild: i think he has something against bots
[02:36] <holycow> jdong: noooo, there is a slight difference here
[02:36] <holycow> i swore
[02:36] <holycow> i got kicked
[02:36] <jdong> holycow: and I don't see what enforcing a basic level of respect in a channel can be compared to Nazi germany.
[02:36] <holycow> thats fair
[02:36] <holycow> i stopped
[02:36] <holycow> thats fair
[02:36] <jdong> holycow: it is not because you swore
[02:36] <holycow> RIGHT!
[02:37] <holycow> jdong: exactly
[02:37] <jdong> holycow: it is because of the way you responded to LjL's warning
[02:37] <PriceChild> *invokes godwin's law*
[02:37] <holycow> ljl insisted on talking to me about some nonsense
[02:37] <LjL> it's because you did not understand that the whole attitude was way off.
[02:37] <LjL> some nonsense - exactly
[02:37] <PriceChild> holycow, read the link ubotu gave you. Discussing it further at this time will not help you.
[02:37] <jdong> holycow: had you said "I'm sorry, it was inappropriate, I won't do it again", we wouldn't be here
[02:37] <holycow> i have no responsibility to acknowledge or like what he says just because he is an op
[02:37] <PriceChild> holycow, come back to me when you've read it.
[02:37] <LjL> i insisted on trying to make you understand why you were kicked (and going to be banned) in the first place
[02:37] <holycow> and i have a right to ask for him to stop
[02:37] <holycow> i said stop right now
[02:37] <LjL> you finding that "nonsense" *is* the problem
[02:37] <holycow> then i said you have no right to lecture me on my typing skills
[02:37] <LjL> no holycow you don't have a right to stop me from saying things
[02:38] <holycow> within STRICT rules that passes, but i simply showed the lack of willingness to roll over and play dead
[02:38] <holycow> no not at all
[02:38] <holycow> i have the right to ask
[02:38] <jdong> holycow: if you don't like the styles of Ubuntu's IRC channels, nothing dictates you must continue to come here.
[02:38] <holycow> you have the right to speak to me absolutely
[02:38] <PriceChild> holycow, read the link ubotu gave you. Discussing it further at this time will not help you.
[02:38] <PriceChild> holycow, come back to me when you've read it.
[02:38] <holycow> jdong: well freedom dictates that i should have a chance to try
[02:38] <holycow> and freedom is really what this is all about
[02:38] <PriceChild> see above
[02:39] <PriceChild> I will be happy to remove the mute as soon as you have read the guidelines we ask all users to abide by.
[02:39] <LjL> [02:39:16]  <holycow> lol
[02:39] <LjL> [02:39:22]  <holycow> you guys trully are idiots
[02:39] <LjL> [02:39:27]  <holycow> serve the permaban morons
[02:39] <LjL> i think we should abide
[02:40] <LjL> note that he joined #ubuntu as soon as i kicked him from #kubuntu :)
[02:46] <PriceChild> I think that . was a test to see if he could talk.
[02:47] <LjL> which he can, it's just that what he says is marked with a violet highlight :)
[02:47] <LjL> ehm, how come https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades has instructions in *chinese*?
[02:47] <Seeker`> LjL: what client do you use?
[02:48] <LjL> Seeker`: konversation
[02:50] <Pici> LjL: odd
[02:53] <LjL> #ubuntu-fr:
[02:53] <LjL> [02:51:42]  <Mii> LjL: u block the other pc from going on the ch.i only install linux for him to lurn how to use it ect he's using my conection.i told him to ask the ch how to install the drivers for his ati becaus i dont know how
[02:53] <LjL> [02:51:56]  <Mii> LjL: but i guess u dont care
[02:53] <LjL> [02:52:05]  <LjL> ?!
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[02:53] <LjL> [02:52:53]  <LjL> mii: crois tu que ce canal a quelque chose a voir avec ce que passe en #ubuntu?
[02:53] <LjL> [02:52:55]  <Mii> LjL: u block mii so i take his name i'm wii
[02:53] <LjL> [02:52:59]  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o McPeter
[02:53] <LjL> [02:53:00]  *** McPeter sets mode: +b %Mii!*@*
[02:57] <Mii>  u block the other pc from going on the ch.i only install linux for him to lurn how to use it ect he's using my conection.i told him to ask the ch how to install the drivers for his ati becaus i dont know how
[02:57] <Mii> LjL:
[02:57] <Mii> i'm wii u block kerry
[02:58] <LjL> Mii: tell kerry to blame you, then.
[02:58] <LjL> you should think before behaving in a way that makes other people on the same connection as you end up banned.
[02:59] <rob> I was thinking the same thing nalioth
[02:59] <LjL> heh
[03:00] <nalioth> enough is enough
[03:00] <rob> I noticed he was ban-forwarded here though, so was waiting to see how it panned out
[03:00] <nalioth> ah, and now more fun in #freenode
[03:00] <LjL> rob: he was forwarded because we've put a blanket ban on half of his ISP ;)
[03:00] <LjL> didn't feel like making that a *ban*
[03:00] <rob> yeah, that's what I noticed :)
[03:12] <stdin> wow, I step away for like an hour and miss world war 3! :p
[03:16] <LjL> stdin: nah, just much ado for nothing.
[03:18] <stdin> I do so love it when they complain that we only ban them for personal gratification, if that was the case I'd have banned holycow ages ago
[03:18] <Seeker`> i think that by that point, they are just trying to have fun by winding people up
[03:18] <LjL> heh indeed, irritating guy since the very first time i saw him
[03:20] <stdin> I've had to /ignore him in #kde a few times, just because of the seer number/frequency of the bad language highlights
[03:20] <stdin> my computer was beeping so much it sounded like a bomb waiting to go *BOOM*!!
[03:25] <jdong> nothing too suspicious so far, other than going on a random rant about PC's being crap
[03:26] <LjL> jdong: he's someone i don't like, and i think he's trolled in the past
[03:26] <jdong> hmm
[03:26] <Pici> arg.  I need to fix this.  'suspicious' keeps highlighting me.
[03:26] <LjL> Pici: terrible client :)
[03:26] <jdong> goatse mono novell pigsex wii mii kerry
[03:26] <jdong> any of those work?
[03:27] <Pici> LjL: nah, its a hilight I set myself.
[03:27] <LjL> Pici: you set "suspicious" as a highlight? i mean, really? i thought i was among the guys with the most gratuitous highlights, but you beat me by a distance
[03:27] <LjL> jdong: wha?
[03:28] <LjL> are those all aliases of wii?
[03:28] <Pici> LjL: no.  I set pici as a a hilight.  I just didnt use the right syntax and it keeps hilighting when its in the middle of a word.
[03:28] <LjL> Novell is online, but
[03:28] <jdong> LjL: lol no, I suspect they may be magic highlight-words of the ops :)
[03:28] <LjL> Pici: ah, uh, but clients usually have one's own nickname highlighted by default...?
[03:29] <LjL> jdong: uhm i have none of those to be honest :P
[03:29] <LjL> although, i don't even *really* know what i have on highlight
[03:29] <Seeker`> Pici: what client?
[03:29] <jdong> LjL: then I'm a bad guess :)
[03:29] <Pici> LjL: I've found its only for when the message is directed towards me, I like to know if someone is talking about me.
[03:29] <LjL> there should be a searchbox for highlights
[03:29] <Pici> Seeker`: irssi
[03:29] <LjL> Pici: weird, konversation just highlights me regardless of where "ljl" is said, as long as it's a single word
[03:30] <Seeker`> Pici: what is the hilight set as?
[03:30] <Pici> Seeker`: Pici
[03:32] <LjL> Pici: i don't know about irssi, but if you can use regular expressions, just make it [^[:alnum:] ] Pici[^[:alnum:] ]
[03:32] <Seeker`> Pici: Did you use any of the mask/regex/full options?
[03:32] <Pici> Seeker`: none
[03:32] <jdong> Pici: should be /hilight -regexp
[03:32] <jdong> wrt. Ljl's expresion
[03:33] <Pici> Thanks everyone
[03:33] <jdong> auspiciously suspicious.
[03:33] <jdong> ha.
[03:34] <jdong> [jdong@blackbook:~] $ grep pici /usr/share/dict/words | wc -l      (10-14 21:34)
[03:34] <jdong> 16
[03:34] <jdong> :)
[03:34] <Pici> jdong: thanks for the tests, seems to have worked
[03:34] <LjL> my three letters nicknames is a full zero :P
[03:35] <jdong> wake me up when jdong is a word.
[03:35] <Seeker`> seeker, seeker's and seekers
[03:35] <jdong> well except when hobbsee randomly unleashes her factoids on me :D
[03:35] <Seeker`> gah, where did the evening go - I have to get up for lectures tomorrow :(
[03:36] <Pici> I have work tomorrow
[03:47] <jdong> was holycow only banned in #kubuntu?
[03:47] <LjL> jdong: yes
[03:47] <jdong> ok
[03:47] <LjL> i have him on highlight though, if he says something bad in #ubuntu, he's gone at once
[03:48] <LjL> not kicking and nice words this time for sure
[03:48] <LjL> good night now
[03:49] <jdong> night
[03:49] <jrib> night
[04:03] <mrguser> i've talked a little with the -fr ops anyway
[04:04] <mrguser> they've known wii for some time too
[04:05] <mrguser> and now i understand why he claims that english is his language
[04:06] <mrguser> Margot is some island where they speak english
[04:06] <mrguser> at least if i've understood the french guys right
[04:07] <mrguser> though they confirm that is french is as horrible as s english
[04:09] <mrguser> Err, "his" and "his"
[04:24] <LjL> Sigh... Two more meters bluetooth range, just two!
[04:32] <jdong> haha
[04:44] <jdong> how the hell, I just spent 2hrs+ randomyl answering questions in #*buntu
[04:46] <rob> easy done, time flies when you are having, umm, fun :)
[04:48] <jdong> ha. :)
[04:51] <jdong> wow, my roommate just had MS Office 2k3 deactivate itself on him when trying to print an 11-page paper due tomorrow
[04:51] <jdong> took me about 2 seconds to finally sell him on OpenOffice
[04:51] <jdong> next, I'll have to burst his bubble and tell him Vista has identical timebombs built in :)
[07:53] <draik> rob: Thank you for the clarification.
[07:53] <rob> draik, np
[07:53] <draik> I will complete the "manual" and get back to you about it.
[07:54] <rob> dam
[07:54] <rob> I was just about to reply..
[07:54] <rob> oh well
[08:18] <Tm_T> moin
[08:22] <Tm_T> wow
[09:07] <ubotu> nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:08] <rob> got it
[09:56] <Tm_T> hmmmh
[10:30] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !seamless is <reply> Seamless virtualiasation is a method to bring applications for Windows directly to your Ubuntu box! See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization for more information.
[10:47] <ubotu> soundray called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:50] <rob> looks like a troll
[10:55] <rob> oh looky, ban avoidance
[10:56] <Tm_T> I'm not!
[10:56] <Amaranth> rob: He wasn't banned
[10:57] <rob> he wasn't? oops, oh well ;)
[10:57] <rob> serves him right for trolling!
[10:57] <Tm_T> :p
[11:01] <Mez> I just removed him, seemed to keep him quiet
[11:01] <Tm_T> who where?
[11:01] <Mez> martin_ in #ubuntu
[11:01] <Tm_T> I see
[11:02] <Tm_T> I noticed he was bit ass
[11:03] <ubotu> In ubotu, arcticblue said: That is true, but is it not a release candidate?
[11:03] <Tm_T> =)
[11:08] <MenZa> Apparent troll in #ubuntu-offtopic; just a head-sup
 im investing in vista
[11:09] <rob> that one?
[11:10] <Amaranth> Him and pommer seem...off
[11:13] <Amaranth> Troll city
[11:15] <rob> but yes, there are several trolls, he (winchesterPAT) is trying to troll me in pm and failing
[11:16] <rob> he is now hitting ##windows too btw, so I can confirm at least one is a troll
[11:17] <rob> or, maybe he is just young/naive, I dunno
[11:18] <rob> hopefully school starts in whatever country just work up soon
[11:18] <rob> err woke
[11:18] <Tm_T> rob: mind to show what this winchester friend tries?
[11:19] <rob> paste alert
[11:19] <rob> winchesterPAT> i dont know anything about developing softwaree
 that's okay, you can get involved and learn, just being helpful on channels like #ubuntu is a good start
 i dont trust linus
 he hacks pepoles lifes
 ok, if you say so. People are free to do what they want.
 no theyr not
 sure they are, within reason usually defined by social norms and laws.
 they are free to hack people ?
 go hack micros**t
 why? Not only is that illegal, but I have nothing to gain by doing so.
[11:19] <rob> note that I sanitised that
[11:20] <Amaranth> martin_: This is where the ops are, what do you need?
[11:20] <ikonia> how interesting
[11:21] <ubotu> IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:21] <rob> apparently someone should whack me now, as in end my life..
[11:22] <Tm_T> rob: *hug*
[11:22] <martin_> Amaranth I dont need anything ,, I just wouldnt know how to better or develop linux distributions
[11:23] <Amaranth> martin_: Then this is the wrong place
[11:23] <ikonia> martin_: there are tons of channels and projects to work that through on, what point are you at
[11:24] <martin_> Amaranth .. But how do I post bugs or improvement ideas to ubuntu? launchapad is confusing
[11:24] <Amaranth> martin_: Launchpad is the way
[11:24] <ikonia> martin_: there is a guide on launchpad itsself on using launchpad
[11:24] <martin_> k, I go read then
[11:24] <Tm_T> ok Holycow in #ubuntu
[11:28] <MenZa> rob: Yes, him, but that wasn't it :P
[11:28] <rob> now, for some reason he is talking about kiddy porn..
[11:28] <MenZa> I was thinking more of [2007-15-10 10:44:01 CEST]  < winchesterPAT> kiss my ass
[11:28] <MenZa> (Immediately after joining)
[11:28] <Tm_T> =)
[11:29] <rob> if this conversation degrades anymore, I'm going to terminate his connection
[11:29] <MenZa> Also, I was wondering if I could have the ops 'grace', if you will, to stay here? I've read the IrcCouncil mailing list lately, and I don't want to risk banning.
[11:29] <Tm_T> ?
[11:30] <Tm_T> grace?
[11:30] <Tm_T> aaaa
[11:30] <MenZa> Yes. Permission, if you will.
[11:30] <Tm_T> now I realised
[11:30] <Tm_T> well I have nothing against it
[11:30] <MenZa> Good, good
[11:30] <MenZa> I assume you read Hobbsee's e-mail to the mailing list?
[11:30] <Amaranth> MenZa: You're allowed if we know who you are
[11:30] <MenZa> Yes.
[11:31] <Tm_T> known and known to be "tolerated" =)
[11:31] <MenZa> Exactly. :)
[11:31] <Tm_T> MenZa: are you? really?!
[11:32] <Tm_T> <3<3<3 Yes - And You And I <3<3<3
[11:32] <MenZa> :D
[11:35] <Tm_T> martin_: got snow already?
[11:36] <MenZa> I wish we had snow.
[11:37] <Tm_T> heh
[11:38] <Tm_T> its not fun when it covers everything with 1 meter thick wall
[11:38] <MenZa> lies
[11:38] <MenZa> no school \o/
[11:38] <Tm_T> er
[11:38] <Tm_T> school?
[11:38] <Tm_T> oh right, that kids stuff ;-P
[11:40] <Tm_T> we almost have snow here
[11:40] <Tm_T> it's freezing by night but just few degrees over zero by days
[11:41] <jussi01> Tm_T: we had snow up here in oulu on friday
[11:41] <Tm_T> jussi01: heh, we had it too slightly, but its gone now
[11:41] <MenZa> Tm_T: Where do you live?
[11:41] <Tm_T> Eastern Finland
[11:41] <jussi01> Tm_T: yeah... I hope it holds off for a while..
[11:41] <MenZa> Ah
[11:41] <MenZa> Denmark here.
[11:42] <MenZa> No snow till late November :(
[11:42] <MenZa> If we're lucky.
[11:42] <Tm_T> MenZa: "Siberia of Finland" =)
[11:42] <MenZa> lol
[11:48] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, pkern said: ubotu: LP is Launchpad (http://launchpad.net)
[11:50] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, Fujitsu said: !launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:51] <Amaranth> I already handled lp
[11:51] <Tm_T> muh
[11:51] <Amaranth> !launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:51] <ubotu> But launchpad already means something else!
[11:51] <Amaranth> !no, launchpad is <reply> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:51] <ubotu> I'll remember that Amaranth
[11:51] <Amaranth> !lp
[11:51] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:51] <Tm_T> Amaranth: like to handle me too? ;)
[11:51] <Fujitsu> Thanks Amaranth.
[11:52] <Tm_T> Fujitsu: youre welcome
[11:53] <MenZa> :)
[11:59] <ubotu> soundray called the ops in #ubuntu
[12:00] <Tm_T> aww
[12:01] <Tm_T> !away | Mez
[12:01] <ubotu> Mez: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[12:01] <Tm_T> ;--P
[12:44] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu
[01:36] <Tm_T> mooh
[01:49] <Gary> sorry for the join/parts, client broke
[01:51] <Tm_T> haha
[02:06] <Gary> it's a pony windows client, meh
[02:06] <Pici> @pony?
[02:07] <Gary> I cannot get silverex's xchat client running with python right
[02:07] <MenZa> Windows. :<
[02:07] <Gary> well I am at work
[02:08] <Pici> I just ssh into my home computer using putty, ssh/screen/irssi  :D
[02:08] <Gary> I might start doing that
[02:08] <Gary> but I do like Sevea's chanserv.py script
[02:11] <Myrtti> I wanna pony
[02:11] <Gary> me too, then I can have yummy steaks for at least a week
[02:11] <Tm_T> Myrtti: can I be your pony?
[02:11] <Myrtti> you're too far away
[02:12] <Tm_T> hmh
[02:12] <Tm_T> not on saturday
[02:12] <Pici> Mister will you please help my pony.
[02:12] <Myrtti> besides these days applicants are crowding my irssi with their queries
[02:12] <Myrtti> I wonder why
[02:12] <Myrtti> >-)
[02:12] <Tm_T> haha
[02:13] <Myrtti> Apparently I'm even more invisible pink unicorn than before
[02:13] <Gary> woo Seeker` you have voice :p
[02:13] <Myrtti> not only am I a female with some linux knowhow
[02:13] <Seeker`> Gary: yup :) Tis much better than being banned :P
[02:13] <Pici> Myrtti: applicants?
[02:13] <Myrtti> I'm SINGLE! which, I suppose, is totally unexceptable
[02:14] <Myrtti> Pici: to be my pony
[02:14] <Pici> Myrtti: Ooh. :D
[02:14] <Myrtti> ;-)
[02:14] <Tm_T> haha
[02:15] <Myrtti> I what kind of colts would a pink invisible unicorn and an icelandic pony have
[02:15] <Tm_T> mooh
[02:15] <Myrtti> camocapabilities would without a doubt be marvelous
[02:15] <pleia2> so cute ones
[02:15] <Tm_T> wait, pony doesnt say mooh?
[02:16] <pleia2> I'd rather have a llama though
[02:16] <Myrtti> or an alpaca
[02:16] <Myrtti> the wool... :-P~~~~~
[02:16] <Pici> pushmepullyou?
[02:16] <pleia2> alpacas are smaller, so would make more sense for my smallish property
[02:16] <Tm_T> moooh
[02:17] <Myrtti> Tm_T: don't be, join Facebo... ;-)
[02:17] <Myrtti> *krrhrhhr*
[02:17] <Tm_T> hah
[02:17] <Tm_T> Myrtti: how that would help?
[02:17] <Myrtti> I could pet your panda :->
[02:18] <Myrtti> oh wait, I haven't done that yet today for my own either
[02:18] <Pici> ohmy
[02:18] <Tm_T> Myrtti: er, you lost me
[02:19] <Myrtti> they've got this application that you can take care of a pet of your choice :-D
[02:19] <Pici> Oh.  I thought it was a euphemism. <.<
[02:19] <Myrtti> when you feed them, they get faster and get better results in races (and you can gamble on the results)
[02:19] <Tm_T> er?!
[02:19] <Myrtti> Pici: you sick animal you
[02:20] <Myrtti> Tm_T: a tamagotchi, if you will
[02:20] <Tm_T> Myrtti: ok, not my piece of cake or so
[02:39] <Pici> He was here earlier.
[02:41] <Pici> jussi01: do you have ops in #ubuntu ?
[02:41] <jussi01> Pici: no
[02:41] <LjL> jussi01: don't bother then, you can't make them rejoin anyway
[02:41] <Pici> jussi01: Then there really isnt a point, is there?
[02:41] <jussi01> OK. :) I didnt realise ops for #ubuntu was needed :)
[02:41] <LjL> jussi01: well, for #ubuntu or whatever channel they were redirected from
[02:41] <Pici> jussi01: well, you test them, and if they pass, you unban them from #ubuntu
[03:28] <BugMaN> hi Seveas, could you please tell freenode to add my ubuntu/member cloak? my LP profile is https://launchpad.net/~bugman
[03:36] <Tm_T> hih
[03:49] <PriceChild> *wonders where his cheque book is*
[03:58] <jdong> *giggles at british spelling*
[04:09] <Tm_T> PriceChild: !!
[05:28] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: pong
[05:35] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, was someone caught by the ban a very long time ago :P
[05:35] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, was wii in disguise though it turned out
[05:35] <PriceChild> Tm_T, hmm?
[05:35] <PriceChild> jdong, shh
[05:35] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:35] <gnomefreak> is the ban that we set working?
[05:36] <PriceChild> I assume so
[05:37] <Pici> I removed the duplicate matching mask out of offtopic, since we've been running out of banlist space lately.
[05:37] <PriceChild> Pici, time to clean a few more bans?
[05:37] <Pici> PriceChild: Is it okay to go through stuff that I didnt set?
[05:38] <nalioth> Pici: if you are "running out of banspace", pruning the list is not verboten
[05:39] <Pici> Then a-pruning I shall go
[05:40] <gnomefreak> it seems to have grabbed him on 3 nicks wii mii and kerry ;)
[05:40] <PriceChild> I'd leave all the stuff set before the netsplit :/
[05:41] <PriceChild> jul 12 on my screen
[05:42] <nalioth> gnomefreak: PriceChild: others: if you see wii/mii/whoever, please poke the staff (he's been doing this long enough and is now evading klines)
[05:42] <PriceChild> k
[05:42] <gnomefreak> nalioth: will do
[05:47] <nalioth> well, if the ban works, don't bother us  :P
[05:48] <gnomefreak> nalioth: so far but we have it forwarded here
[05:48] <gnomefreak> just incase it catches someone other than him
[05:49] <gnomefreak> but i doubt it will
[05:49] <Pici> If it does, can we tell that person to knock some sense into Wii?
[05:49] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:50] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: What did you set for the ban?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> would love a kline for what we set :)
[05:50] <Amaranth> All of wanadoo?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> sort of
[05:50] <gnomefreak> ill get it
[05:51] <jdong> haha
[05:51] <gnomefreak> [+b *!*@AMarigot-102-1*!#ubuntu-ops]
[05:51] <jdong> that's not bad...
[05:51] <gnomefreak> it has caught only him and 3 times it seems
[05:53] <Tm_T> PriceChild: hi
[05:53] <PriceChild> Meed anything?
[05:53] <PriceChild> *Need
[05:54] <gnomefreak> yeah a big strong drink (jim and coke will do)
[05:56] <jussi01> PriceChild: yeah... the list is endles... :P
[06:03] <nalioth> anyone want to field a gutsy question? (same one i asked last week)
[06:04] <mc44> eat more roughage
[06:04] <mc44> not that kind of guts?
[06:04] <Pici> noobuntu: Can we help you?
[06:04] <Seeker`> nalioth: what was the question?
[06:04] <noobuntu> Pici, with what
[06:05] <Pici> noobuntu: Well, you appear to be in #ubuntu-ops, most people don't come here unless they have an issue.
[06:06] <nalioth> every time i start my gutsy laptop. udevd is at the top of the cpu usage meter
[06:06] <nalioth> i kill it and restart it, it behaves normally
[06:07] <mc44> have you updated recently? I thought that bug was fixed
[06:07] <Tm_T> nalioth: I have seen that issue, just cant remember what it is
[06:07] <nalioth> mc44: i update daily
[06:09] <noobuntu> Pici, no issue
[06:09] <nalioth> noobuntu: is there something we can help you with?
[06:09] <philip> Hello there....I want to be tested
[06:09] <noobuntu> nalioth, i dont know. is there?
[06:10] <mc44> nalioth: do you use evms?
[06:10] <jussi01> nalioth: are you using one of the main mirrors? some mirrors are 1 week behind...
[06:10] <nalioth> noobuntu: if you don't have a reason to be here, we can help you out
[06:10] <nalioth> jussi01: am using archive.ubuntu.blah
[06:10] <nalioth> mc44: have no clue
[06:10] <noobuntu> nalioth, interesting. you can help me without a reason
[06:10] <gnomefreak> noobuntu: read the topic
[06:10] <nalioth> noobuntu: we discourage random idlers
[06:11] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[06:11] <philip> guys can you 'poke' me, I "need" to be tested.....
[06:11] <nalioth> philip: buckle your seat belt
[06:11] <mc44> nalioth: apt-cache policy evms --> does it show it's installed?
[06:11] <noobuntu> nalioth, gnomefreak okay, i have a question for you since you want to help me with something
[06:11] <nalioth> mc44: it's not running atm
[06:11] <philip> I'm ready..........
[06:12] <gnomefreak> nalioth: :(
[06:12] <Amaranth> guys, i'm sad
[06:12] <Amaranth> my roommate at UDS is an automatix guy
[06:12] <noobuntu> what is the purpose of these instructions? how do they improve sound in gnome? ubuntuforums.org
[06:12] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: oh crap :(
[06:12] <Amaranth> I think they did it on purpose
[06:12] <Tm_T> Amaranth: ouch!
[06:12] <Amaranth> And he is in Omaha, NE same as me
[06:12] <mc44> nalioth: it might be bug 115616
[06:12] <nalioth> philip: you're good, you an join #ubuntu now and thanks for your patience  :)
[06:12] <noobuntu> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[06:12] <Amaranth> if I kill him now I won't have to mess up my hotel room
[06:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115616 in update-manager "Device-mapper errors: dm-linear, lookup failed" [Critical,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115616
[06:12] <noobuntu> i pasted the wrong url the first time
[06:12] <nalioth> noobuntu: supprt is in #ubuntu
[06:13] <nalioth> noobuntu: or #ubuntuforums
[06:13] <Pici> #ubuntuforums isn't a support channel, they'll push him to #ubuntu
[06:13] <noobuntu> nalioth, okay, but you asked me if i need any help
[06:13] <philip> thanx
[06:13] <mc44> nalioth: in which case remove evms
[06:13] <nalioth> noobuntu: this is an administration channel
[06:13] <Tm_T> =)
[06:13] <Pici> nalioth: check the tracker, that mask is in there quite a few times fyi.
[06:13] <noobuntu> nalioth, what's the purpose of telling me of a channel that you know im banned from?
[06:15] <nalioth> what is evms, anyway?
[06:15] <Amaranth> !info evms
[06:15] <ubotu> evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.5-18ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 85 kB, installed size 320 kB
[06:16] <Amaranth> nalioth: it says enterprise, that's all you need to know :P
[06:16] <Tm_T> =)
[06:16] <Tm_T> Amaranth: how it can be enterprise when its not java?
[06:16] <Pici> Amaranth: Or XML
[06:16] <nalioth> ah
[06:17] <jdong> it's the LVM/fancy-partition-management overlord of doom :)
[06:18] <Amaranth> Seriously though, this is going to _suck_
[06:18] <Amaranth> I'm just not going to be in my room unless I'm sleeping
[06:18] <Amaranth> and I'll sleep with one eye open
[06:19] <nalioth> Amaranth: well, you no longer have to preach EU superiority, but instead ask him why he's affiliated with "the extra coat of paint"
[06:19] <Amaranth> nalioth: I was never happy with EU anyway :P
[06:19] <Amaranth> nalioth: I was only doing stuff there because I didn't want it to suck
[06:19] <gnomefreak> what happened with EU?
[06:19] <gnomefreak> i havent heard about it in a while
[06:20] <Amaranth> It was completely replaced with gnome-app-install and automatic codec installation
[06:20] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[06:20] <Amaranth> Well, basically for feisty it would have been an 'install flash' button
[06:20] <mc44> Amaranth: you could smother him with a pillow. No one will ever know!
[06:20] <nalioth> gnomefreak: it is no longer needed.
[06:20] <Amaranth> mc44: I was thinking a push out the window
[06:31] <jdong> !-ntfs
[06:31] <ubotu> ntfs aliases: windowsdrives, nfts - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 00:07:26
[06:31] <jdong> !ntfs
[06:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:31] <jdong> that factoid is a bit confusing in the globbing of Mac partitions
[06:31] <jdong> neither ntfs-3g nor fuse helps for writing to journaled HFS+ filesystems
[06:32] <jdong> "For NTFS write access" would be clearer
[06:33] <nalioth> so clear it
[06:33] <jdong> how do I do that? re-submit the factoid?
[06:34] <jussi01> jdong: !no, ntfs-3g is <reply> blah IIRC
[06:34] <nalioth> if you like, or poke someone with ubotu write access (no ntfs-3g required)
[06:34] <jussi01> hehe
[06:34] <jdong> !no, ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:34] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, jdong said: !no, ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .    For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, jdong said: !no, ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <jdong> that
[06:35] <gnomefreak> ok give me a sec
[06:35] <jdong> just to clarify what "write access" we're referring to
[06:35] <gnomefreak> !no, ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <ubotu> I'll remember that gnomefreak
[06:35] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[06:35] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <jdong> thanks gnomefreak :)
[06:36] <gnomefreak> anytime
[06:36] <nalioth> EEEK! BOTSPAM
[06:37] <gnomefreak> jdong: once i remember how to add editors if you want ill add you
[06:37] <jdong> sorry nalioth, I'm an idiot
[06:38] <jdong> gnomefreak: meh I don't mind either way :)
[06:38] <gnomefreak> could have done it in pm but than i wouldnt get pm from other bot telling me his not smart (thats the fun of it)
[06:39] <jdong> in retrospect that would've been smarter
[06:40] <nalioth> gnomefreak: the other bots in here have nice cups of STFU
[06:40] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:41] <gnomefreak> brb reboot
[09:20] <PriceChild> #ubuntu's getting a bit large...
[09:20] <Pici> Yep, its already swelling.
[09:21] <jdong> insert another innuendo here
[09:22] <mc44> jdong: wait for it's size on release!
[09:22] <mc44> *its
[09:22] <mc44> :P
[09:24] <jdong> mc44: tehn it'll return to its normal size
[09:24] <jdong> mc44: and cannot release again for a decent period of time
[09:28] <jussi01> hmmm, this is a good question : [21:22]  <Moniker42> any idea what the largest number of users in #ubuntu has been?
[09:28] <jussi01> anyone?
[09:28] <jussi01> Im curious also...
[09:29] <mc44> it was on feisty release day
[09:29] <mc44> can't remember how many exactly, maybe 1600
[09:29] <jussi01> is there somewhere wit the stats?
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> mc44: I think it was more like 1300
[09:32] <nalioth> jdong: there'll be at least 1500 folks there
[09:32] <mc44> tonyyarusso: nah, higher than that
[09:32] <nalioth> the crowd swells with each release
[09:32] <jussi01> there is ~1300 now...
[09:32] <mc44> tonyyarusso: it went past 1337 quite early iirc :)
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> haha
[09:35] <Pici> hm.  My irc stats program doesnt grab number of users.
[09:37] <nalioth> Pici: usercount.pl
[09:37] <Seeker`> I'm pretty sure it was around 1600 for feisty
[09:38] <Seeker`> 1297 atm in #ubuntu
[09:38] <gnomefreak> it was ~1600 for feisty release
[09:39] <Seeker`> just hit 1300 in ubuntu
[09:39] <Mez> w00t
[09:39] <Mez> we need 37 more
[09:40] <Seeker`> just get a load of bots
[09:40] <jussi01> LOL
[09:40] <jdong> for i in range(37): system("irssi &") ?
 we need 37 more people in #ubuntu to make it 1337 users ;0
 hehe
 I have a screenshot of it at 1337!
[09:40] <Dave2> indeed
[09:41] <Mez> ah didnt see you in here
[09:41] <Dave2> I have no idea where the screenshot is. But it's somewhere.
[09:43] <jdong> PriceChild: I have to relocate to another classroom right now, but can you loo kin teh bantracker for NoelCower/Noel/Cower's ban in #ubuntuforums for suggesting a rm -rf?
[09:43] <jdong> totally forgot to lift it.
[09:46] <jdong> PriceChild: got it, nvm
[09:53] <PriceChild> sorry was away
[10:03] <jdong> no worries
[10:06] <jdong> bleh
[10:07] <jdong> stupid irssi hanging
[10:10] <jayt> PriceChild, there is a pm there for you ..
[10:14] <Seveas> !ping
[10:14] <Mez> !pong
[10:14] <Seveas> neh, ubotu has a proble
[10:14] <Seveas> m
[10:15] <Seveas> @quit
[10:48] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[10:48] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[10:48] <gnomefreak> !btlogin
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about btlogin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <jdong> haha
[10:48] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrr
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Seveas: your bot is down?
[10:48] <Seveas> not anymore
[10:48] <Seveas> !ping
[10:48] <ubotu> pong
[10:48] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[10:48] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[10:48] <gnomefreak> still
[10:49] <gnomefreak> %whoami
[10:49] <ubotu> gnomefreak
[10:49] <gnomefreak> did the command change?
[10:49] <Seveas> hmm
[10:49] <Seveas> no, it's just broken
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ah ok does someone have the link i so i can comment
[10:50] <Seveas> try again
[10:50] <Seveas> you need to login :)
[10:50] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[10:50] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[10:50] <gnomefreak> yeah well i tried that ;)
[10:50] <ompaul> Python 2.4.3: /usr/bin/python
[10:50] <ompaul> Mon Oct 15 22:52:07 2007
[10:50] <ompaul> more errorz
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ill wait he may make it in here anyway
[10:50] <Seveas> grmbl
[10:50] <ompaul> OperationalError: database is locked
[10:50] <Seveas> @reload Bantracker
[10:50] <ompaul>       args = ('database is locked',)
[10:51] <ompaul> Seveas, that may point in the right direction
[10:51] <Seveas> I know
[10:51] <Seveas> already seen the error
[10:51] <gnomefreak> i never get good output from bot
[10:51] <gnomefreak> :(
[10:51] <ompaul> keweo
[10:51] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ompaul grabbed it from the bantracker
[10:51] <Seveas> I saw it in the debug log
[10:51] <Seveas> so we are both cheating
[10:51] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:51] <Seveas> try now, bantracker works
[10:52] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ha
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ty
[10:52] <ompaul> Seveas, it does
[10:52] <ompaul> but it is missing the last couple of hours
[10:52] <ompaul> the but can be dropped()
[10:53] <Seveas> too bad
[10:53] <ompaul> yeap :)
[10:53] <Seveas> had to delete the journal
[10:53] <ompaul> ahh
[10:53] <Seveas> server got a hard reboot
[10:53] <ompaul> nasty
[10:53] <Seeker`> thats bad
[10:54] <Pici> Is the tracker still running on a sqlite database?
[10:55] <Pici> s/still//
[10:55] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[10:55] <gnomefreak> i guess it was down when i banned him
[10:56] <ompaul> gnomefreak, your own logs
[10:56] <gnomefreak> i have my own logs but commenting on my logs is a bit harder
[10:56] <ompaul> there is that ;-)
[10:57] <gnomefreak> i wish he would find something better to do than pm me
[10:58] <Pici> gnomefreak: unban and reban him, then comment
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:58] <gnomefreak> good idea
[11:00] <gnomefreak> Pici: thanks that did it
[11:23] <ompaul> ikonia, how you doin?
[11:26] <ikonia> hey ompaul doing ok. Exausted but fine
[11:26] <ikonia> been a long old day
[11:26] <ikonia> then I've come home to reasonable ammount of house work
[11:26] <ompaul> ahh
[11:26] <ikonia> how about you
[11:26] <ikonia> still full of beans
[11:26] <ompaul> good
[11:27] <ompaul> na its late
[11:27] <ompaul> that is the only reason
[11:27] <ompaul> I got out of bed at 7am
[11:27] <ikonia> ok, so still got some drive
[11:29] <ikonia> jump on a flight if you want/can, I'm having a birthday part on Wednesday, and a geek version on Thursday
[11:29] <ompaul> heh, I got my whole week booked up already :)
[11:29] <ikonia> its a last minute thing,
[11:30] <ompaul> and can't other than that - not enough notice to work and got 3 desktops and one server to work on for fun
[11:30] <ikonia> I suspected as much
[11:30] <ikonia> but it never hurts to ask
[11:30] <ikonia> normally better planning, but last minute thing this year
[11:31] <ompaul> hehe
[12:13] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[12:13] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm seems slow
[12:15] <gnomefreak> mc44: are you only op in -offtopic?
[12:17] <mc44> gnomefreak: not anywhere :)
[12:19] <gnomefreak> oh thought you were op in -offtopic :(
[12:19] <nalioth> if you are not an op, why are you here ?  0_o
[12:19] <gnomefreak> btw ban tracker thinks you are as well
[12:20] <gnomefreak> atleast i thought you were the banner/kicker
[12:20] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[12:21] <mc44> gnomefreak: occasionally people are silly and get chanserv to op people
[12:21] <mc44> nalioth: because it's useful if you're helping out in #ubuntu etc?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> oh ompaul kicked you
[12:21] <gnomefreak> 2 times
[12:21] <gnomefreak> 3 times
[12:21] <gnomefreak> holy crap what were you doing
[12:22] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: How many times has Gary / Gazzak been kicked?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> dont know dont see him on this first page
[12:22] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: I would be surprised if it were still in 2 figures
[12:26] <Pici> mc44 has been kicked at least 10 times
[12:26] <Pici> hes a bad boy.
[12:27] <mc44> Pici: more like 100
[12:28] <nalioth> mc44: your logic is faulty.
[12:28] <mc44> nalioth: which logic?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> coreymon77: is there something we can do for you?
[12:32] <mneptok> *suspects
[12:33] <Pici> murgi can probably be removed, hes an 83.230 that was looking for -es.
[12:33] <nalioth> mc44: there are dozens of other active helpful folks in #ubuntu and #kubuntu etc who do not feel it necessary to idle in here   << logic
[12:33] <mc44> nalioth: I happen to have a different opinion
[12:34] <mc44> It wasn't logic, it was a statement of why I was in here
[12:34] <Pici> My opinion is that we should leave it as it is right now and bring up the issue at the next IRC Council meeting, when all the Council members are present.
[12:52] <gnomefreak> mc44: hes having fun in pm
[12:52] <mc44> gnomefreak: because we're racist? :)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> mc44: yeah
[12:53] <gnomefreak> hes telling me hes gonna dodge the ban
[12:53] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:54] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, where's this frm?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> +1 now in pm
[12:54] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: he was using slang for black people iirc than called us rasist
[12:55] <gnomefreak> now hes telling me hes gonna dodge
[12:55] <gnomefreak> 18:54 <nzero> new ip and no problems getting in
[12:55] <gnomefreak> thers more :)
[12:55] <PriceChild> what channel?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> its in pm right now
[12:55] <PriceChild> what channel did this start?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> he was banned from +1
[12:56] <Pici> Can someone check the links in -offtopic, I'm only on a shell
[12:56] <PriceChild> wierd... :/
[12:56] <PriceChild> they forwarded to google for me anyway it seemed
[12:56] <gnomefreak> the usage links?
[12:56] <Pici> ty Seveas.
[12:57] <PriceChild> still.... nasty person
[12:57] <Seveas> all google, but calling it goatse makes me itchy
[12:57] <Pici> Okay.
[12:57] <PriceChild> indeed
[12:57] <PriceChild> he was asking about goatse and tubgirl earlier
[12:57] <Seveas> good riddance
[12:57] <nalioth> Pici: screen is your friend
[12:57] <Seveas> is now complaining in #freenode
[12:58] <nalioth> Pici: irssi in one screen, links2 in another, etc
[12:58] <gnomefreak> please tell me the one you just banned
[12:58] <Seveas> Soskel
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[12:58] <PriceChild> incoming
[12:58] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: ;)
[12:58] <Soskel> Seveas banned me for linking to google
[12:58] <Soskel> http://000-137.info/              http://0513.info/              http://0757fs.com/
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Soskel: and?
[12:59] <Seveas> no, I banned you for announcing links to goatse
[12:59] <Soskel> abusing powers
[12:59] <Seveas> standard troll excuse :)
[12:59] <Soskel> Seveas: they weren't links to goatse
[12:59] <Seveas> have fun gnomefreak
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Seeker`: ty :)
[12:59] <Seveas> mine is right here, makes it easy
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ty
[12:59] <gnomefreak> mine wont join
[12:59] <Seveas> invite?
[01:00] <PriceChild> Soskel, you were intentionally trying to stir the channel up. I am very sure you are aware that goatse and tubgirl are not accepted discussion topics.
[01:00] <Soskel> PriceChild: I know..... but I didn't post links to either
[01:00] <PriceChild> Soskel, that is irrelevant.
[01:00] <Soskel> I am also shocked to see oprs acting so immaturely
[01:01] <nzero> me too
[01:01] <PriceChild> Soskel, I think that's enough discussion then. The ban will not be lifted at this time.
[01:01] <PriceChild> nzero, can I help you?
[01:01] <mc44> PriceChild: thats gnomefreak's :)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> nzero: welcome
[01:01] <PriceChild> mc44, I know :)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> nzero: did you bring the logs?
[01:01] <nzero> ?
[01:01] <nzero> what logs
[01:02] <Pici> mc44: he likes asking that question
[01:02] <gnomefreak> nzero: i told you in p, bring the log if you think this ban was unfaur
[01:02] <Seveas> nzero, if you want to protest against something an op dit, you must bring logs
[01:02] <gnomefreak> unfair. if you like i can post it here
 are you able to have a civilized conversation in PM?
 hmmmm
 http://www.kaarsemaker.net/contact/
 nice site
[01:02] <Seveas> funny thing, google
[01:02] <Soskel> please use a pastebin next time
[01:02] <Seveas> Soskel, use /dev/null for trolling
[01:03] <gnomefreak> 18:59 <nzero> you didn't answer the question of how you plan to ban a changing ip address
[01:03] <gnomefreak> 19:01 <gnomefreak> nzero doesnt matter how i do it its alredy been done. now i suggest you go find somewhere else to get help if you need it that bad. if you thin this ban was wrong join #ubuntu-ops with logs
[01:03] <gnomefreak> 19:01 <gnomefreak> if you cant do that than im done.
[01:03] <gnomefreak> nzero: that is what i said about logs
[01:03] <gnomefreak> did i miss a line'
[01:04] <gnomefreak> no i did
[01:04] <nzero> but you didn't ban me, you have banned me under different names over 5 times now gnomefreak and its always been about some joke that your humorless self got all tight about. and i have gotten past all those bans and i'll do it again
[01:04] <Seveas> nzero, if you come in here just to rant, please leave
[01:04] <gnomefreak> nzero: did i? nalioth is him admitting it enough for a kline?
[01:05] <Seveas> if you have a serious complaint, back it up with logs
[01:05] <Soskel> gnomefreak: you may not be aware, but you can't ban a specific dynamic IP
[01:05] <gnomefreak> Soskel: you stick with your person
[01:05] <Seveas> Soskel, please leave if you have nothing useful to say
[01:05] <Soskel> Seveas: please stfu
[01:05] <nzero> yes but if you ban the IP i am on at a higher level you risk have everyone else on that number not be able to use ubuntu support
[01:06] <gnomefreak> stupid little man
[01:06] <gnomefreak> nzero: than go for it. if you think you want to dodge it feel free
[01:06] <nzero> oh and then there always the various WiFi spots around me as well, all i am saying is stop being dick and be a little human
[01:06] <PriceChild> nzero, we're cleverer than that :)
[01:06] <gnomefreak> nzero: but warning you now admitting it in a channel full of ops and freenode staff not really smartest thing to do
[01:07] <nalioth> what does nzero do? (besides evade bans)
[01:07] <Seveas> evade k-lines?
[01:08] <nalioth> nzero, why were you banned in the 1st place?
[01:08] <nzero> oh
[01:08] <gnomefreak> nalioth: it started because of his use of language and fighting mc and i over it and than saying we are reacists
[01:08] <gnomefreak> racists
[01:08] <nzero> cause somebody came in and said hey everybody
[01:08] <nalioth> gnomefreak: ah
[01:09] <nzero> and me being the funny guy i am, said in quot "yo yo my nigga"
[01:09] <Seveas> that's nowhere near funny
[01:09] <nalioth> unfortunately, that is not funny for everyone
[01:09] <nzero> now i could have said nigger, now that is offensive (in certain situtions) but nigga is not even technically a word
[01:09] <nzero> its slanguage
[01:10] <PriceChild> slanguage?
[01:10] <PriceChild> that's not even a word either?
[01:10] <nzero> true
[01:10] <Seveas> PriceChild, that translates to "thin excuses for trolling"
[01:10] <PriceChild> nzero, please do not try to be clever with us. Please do not think you can bend the rules and make it "technically ok" for you to do whatever it is you want to do.
[01:10] <Daviey> How long does it take a kline to get activated? :)