[12:00] <gnomefreak> brb i hope
[12:00] <Cartesian1984> LjL;i haven't tried yet, haven't turned it off
[12:00] <Cartesian1984> I am on it now, in fact
[12:00] <lorenzo> worked fine with php/apache under windows, but that's the only thing I cannot get to work now in linux, although I am very pleased with all the rest
[12:01] <sethk> lorenzo, what happens?
[12:01] <GregAsche> anyone care to give their insight? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93729
[12:02] <lorenzo> well nothing happens. The php page tells me the feedback was sent correctly, but the receiver (me) never recieves the expected email
[12:02] <Cartesian1984> LjL: any idea what that folder is for? i think it might be maintenance, but i dont want to take the chance of shutting it off
[12:03] <sethk> lorenzo, you'll have to trace it through the apache logs, see what happens
[12:03] <LjL> Cartesian1984: that folder is for startup. hold on, i'm hoping to give you a solution
[12:03] <Cartesian1984> thanks
[12:05] <Elsan> Is it normal that the GNOME theme manager does not work with the new kernel version?
[12:05] <foxiness> can i find anjuta 2.0 on ubuntu "i want to give it a try"
[12:05] <delltony> question is there a gui program to do scp transfers?
[12:06] <Agrajag> delltony: gftp might support it
[12:06] <Ju> delltony:  gftp can
[12:06] <delltony> alright will have a look thanks
[12:06] <delltony> thanks
[12:06] <lorenzo> took a quick look at the apache logs, I see all my requests for pages, etc... no mentions of the mail or sendmail words anywhere ...  :(
[12:06] <PinTo> i have a q's
[12:07] <PinTo> i have an old system with 3d voodoofx
[12:07] <LjL> Cartesian1984: please paste the results of "ls /etc/init.d" on the pastebin
[12:07] <sethk> lorenzo, add something to the php page to log to a file, make sure it actually gets executed
[12:07] <PinTo> does n e 1 know where i can get driver from
[12:07] <PinTo> can i use files ending in RPM in ubuntu?
[12:07] <sethk> PinTo, an old lady in Port O Prince
[12:07] <jab630> join #brownlug
[12:08] <lorenzo> ohoo, see what we have here :
[12:08] <lorenzo> sh: /usr/sbin/sendmail: No such file or directory
[12:08] <PinTo> sethk i wish i knew
[12:08] <Elsan> PinTo: You can use alien to make a .deb from it
[12:08] <lorenzo> but the sendmail IS there ...
[12:08] <foxiness> PinTo, alin somthing.rpm
[12:08] <sethk> lorenzo, must not be in /usr/sbin
[12:08] <sethk> lorenzo, although it should be
[12:08] <Cartesian1984> LjL: it says that there is no such file or directory
[12:09] <PinTo> Elsan i'am a noob
[12:09] <LjL> Cartesian1984: ehm, then you've removed much more than just /etc/rc1.d
[12:09] <Agrajag> PinTo: what is the rpm file you want to use?
[12:09] <LjL> Cartesian1984: paste me an "ls /etc"
[12:09] <foxiness> PinTo, but alien its not soo good or safe
[12:09] <ursula> join [#ubuntu]
[12:09] <orbx> is it possible to copy whole directories via the terminal?
[12:09] <Agrajag> orbx: cp -R
[12:09] <ursula> hi all
[12:09] <LjL> orbx: cp -a
[12:09] <PinTo> XFree86 V3.3.3, 3dfx XF86Setup rpm
[12:09] <orbx> or move?
[12:09] <foxiness> PinTo, use .deb
[12:10] <Agrajag> oh yeah, -a's better
[12:10] <topyli> PinTo: alien is the last resort. try to get the driver otherwise before. are you sure it's not in modern X?
[12:10] <Elsan> PinTo: Just download the "alien" package with synaptic or "sudo apt-get install alien". Then in the command line: "alien yourrpm.rpm". IT may not ALWAYS work. It worked for Limewire for me and not at all for others.
[12:10] <orbx> Ljl > what does the command do, and in what context do i use it in?
[12:10] <Agrajag> PinTo: xfree86? that's ancient
[12:10] <Elsan> PinTo: So, try to find a .deb.
[12:10] <Elsan> What are the improvements of the new kernel?
[12:10] <topyli> PinTo: Xfree 3.3 is like from 1995 or something :)
[12:10] <delltony> real quick the command to copy a file from a remote location to local location is scp -p Enterporthere username@host/pathtofile  .  correct?
[12:10] <lorenzo> well, it is there, believe me .............."puzzled"
[12:10] <sethk> lorenzo, check its permissions
[12:10] <LjL> orbx: when you want to copy recursively and maintain permissions (and not follow symlinks, i think). it's all in "man cp"
[12:11] <PinTo> agrajag i didnt know
[12:11] <sethk> lorenzo, also check the permissions on its directory, make sure the directory is searchable for the user that runs the php script
[12:11] <Cartesian1984> LJL: do you mean pastebin.com? because i think the server is down
[12:11] <orbx> Ljl > is there anyway of moving dir's like sudo mv?
[12:11] <LjL> Cartesian1984: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:11] <trappist> orbx: mv moves directories too
[12:12] <Elsan> PinTo: You understand?
[12:12] <orbx> trappist > yay, thank you
[12:12] <LjL> orbx: you can just use "mv" to move directories, at least if it's all inside the same filesystem
[12:12] <LjL> orbx: otherwise, just cp and then remove the original
[12:12] <PinTo> Elsan i'll have a read thnx for the info
[12:12] <trappist> doesn't have to be the same filesystem
[12:12] <topyli> PinTo: open a terminal, and say "lspci | grep VGA"
[12:12] <SoulPropagation> how do ya make panel items (e.g. menu, clock, etc) transparent like empty areas of the panel?
[12:13] <orbx> Ljl > thanks alot for your helo ;)
[12:13] <orbx> help*
[12:13] <topyli> PinTo: let's see what kinf of card you have
[12:13] <LjL> trappist: i don't really know, i just know i wouldn't use "mv" to move across filesystems, personally :) you never know
[12:13] <Elsan> PinTo: It's really simple. I'm still a little newbie, just happened to find "alien" in synaptic by luck and used it for my .rpm.
[12:13] <PinTo> i havent got an internet connection yet.....so i'll do that and get bak toya thnx
[12:13] <PinTo> reboot
[12:14] <Cartesian1984> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4873
[12:15] <sethk> LjL, mv works across file systems.  It will complete copying before removing the original file
[12:15] <LjL> Cartesian1984: so it's actually /etc/init.d that you deleted, not /etc/rc1.d ..?
[12:15] <iamkirk> yo
[12:15] <LjL> sethk: ok
[12:15] <sethk> LjL, on the other hand, I _never_ have only one copy of _anything_   :)
[12:16] <Cartesian1984> yes, rc2.d also, possibly
[12:16] <iamkirk> Who wants to help me wtfpwn linux ? :P
[12:16] <LjL> sethk: that's fine practice of course, though disk space isn't as cheap as they say
[12:16] <iamkirk> i have 40gb of HD to get at :P
[12:17] <sethk> LjL, it's cheaper than recreating files.  :)
[12:17] <LjL> Cartesian1984: "ls" all the /etc/rcX.d and paste them
[12:17] <trappist> LjL: here's the intro to the relevant section of mv.c: /* Move SOURCE onto DEST.  Handles cross-filesystem moves.
[12:17] <iamkirk> no one wants to help me ? :P
[12:17] <Cartesian1984> LjL: is it possible for me to move vital portions of those folders from the installation cd?
[12:17] <LjL> oh geez
[12:18] <trappist> LjL: followed closely by something like if (fail) dir_to_remove = NULL;
[12:18] <LjL> trappist: you actually went and found the relevant part of the source? man, i would have believed you without that
[12:18] <lorenzo> thank you sethk, I'll also look in that direction
[12:18] <trappist> LjL: well I wanted to know for sure :)
[12:19] <LjL> trappist: ;-)
[12:20] <Remmelas> any mencoder experts in the room?
[12:20] <LjL> Cartesian1984: yes and no
[12:21] <WebLOCH> Hey guys got a brief question
[12:21] <LjL> Cartesian1984: if you have installed services since you installed ubuntu, restoring the files from CD won't give you back everything. and in any case, i personally don't know where to find the files on the CD
[12:21] <WebLOCH> Will i need to reboot ubuntu after connecting a printer?  I realise theres no definate answer, but a good guess will fill me with the motivation to go and get the printer...
[12:21] <LjL> Cartesian1984: but, give me that listing... i think i can restore /etc/init.d, though as for /etc/rc2.d, that could be a bit harder
[12:22] <die_harder> my cron job on my server is ignored. i inserted it with crontab -e
[12:22] <die_harder>  */2 * * * * /home/luther/gate/open
[12:22] <die_harder> when i run the command manual it works
[12:24] <iamkirk> I have a 75 gb HD.... I made a 10gb partition for winblows.... made a 20gb partition for linux (<3)... and I made an extended partition of 45 gb ( all done within winblows ).... how can i access that partition from ubunti
[12:24] <PinTo> i think i was talkin elsan i dunno?
[12:24] <PinTo> my card is
[12:24] <Cartesian1984> LjL; what if i just used synaptic to mass-reinstall everything? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4874
[12:25] <LjL> Cartesian1984: that's not dissimilar from what i was thinking about -- however, i was only thinking of reinstalling stuff that *has* files in /etc/init.d
[12:25] <PinTo> VGA compatible controller:3dfx interactive,incvoodoo 3 (rev 01)
[12:25] <Teatime_> hey everyone....how do I get my powerbook to boot the ubuntu CD?
[12:25] <purplefeltangel> ubuntu says that there's an invalid argument when it tries to find my scanner....what do i do??
[12:26] <Cartesian1984> LjL: and idea how i would determine that?
[12:26] <LjL> Cartesian1984: in any case 1) i'm not sure how Synaptic would behave with a reinstall of core packages  2) reinstalling won't restore /etc/rc2.d, though it will restore /etc/init.d
[12:26] <PinTo> man i needed a re-boot
[12:26] <rafa> hi
[12:26] <LjL> Cartesian1984: yeah, the idea i had in mind was simply to look in /etc/rcX.d -- everything that's in /etc/rcX.d corresponds to something in /etc/init.d
[12:27] <kemik> !cups
[12:27] <ubotu> No idea, kemik
[12:27] <GregAsche> is there a line I can use in my smb.conf so that any user can access anything I share with samba?
[12:27] <kemik> !printer
[12:27] <ubotu> I guess printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[12:27] <PinTo> can n e help plz with my voodoo
[12:27] <brocantor> super linux j adore
[12:27] <rafa> anybody knows any reference of how to allow remote connection of clients to the Xserver?
[12:27] <PinTo> my desktop is like totaly huge because i cant change the RES
[12:27] <Cartesian1984> LjL: is there any way to reinstall ubuntu without losing everything on this partition?
[12:28] <LjL> Cartesian1984: yes, of course, you can save your /home (and more if you want)
[12:28] <purplefeltangel> ubuntu says that there's an invalid argument when it tries to find my scanner....what do i do??
[12:28] <LjL> Cartesian1984: Ubuntu can be told to not format the partition
[12:28] <Remmelas> Anyone know of a labeling program that has a template for dvd case labels?  Tried glabel, but looks like it only has templates for the disc's themselves.
[12:28] <Teatime_> anyone know how to mac my powerbook boot from the ubuntu cd?
[12:28] <Cartesian1984> LjL: how can i instruct it to do that? is it possible to save all the installed thing?
[12:29] <LjL> Cartesian1984: no, not the installed programs, only your /home and, if you want, any selection of files and directory
[12:29] <Cartesian1984> LjL: hmm. it would be easier to try and copy the files then
[12:29] <LjL> Cartesian1984: you instruct it simply by telling it to not use "automatic partitioning" (or whatever it's called) during setup, and then tell it to not format your partition
[12:29] <iamkirk> I have a 75 gb HD.... I made a 10gb partition for winblows.... made a 20gb partition for linux (<3)... and I made an extended partition of 45 gb ( all done within winblows ).... how can i access that partition from ubunti
[12:29] <rafa> Teatime_, just press C as you bootup
[12:30] <henry_> hello...is there any graphical app that allows me set up the deepth color in buntu, to 24 bits???
[12:31] <Teatime_> rafa: cheers :D
[12:31] <purplefeltangel> ubuntu says that there's an invalid argument when it tires to find my scanner...HardwareSupportComponentsScanners says that my scanner should work perfectly...what should i do?
[12:31] <n1omi> hi all :) how can i boot into terminal mode, and how can i run two terminals at once when not in a GUI?
[12:31] <smo> n1omi, for the later part, try hitting ctrl+alt+left/right cursors when you're on a terminal.  there should be 6 running already by default
[12:32] <trappist> (or use screen)
[12:32] <n1omi> smo: ctrl+alt+left produces: 7C
[12:33] <kemik> uhm, how do i install cups on ubuntu? (running serverinstall) ... i just guessed it would be "apt-get install cupsys"
[12:33] <topyli> n1omi: for starters, press ctrl-alt-Ff2. then the F1-F7 will take you through 6 virtual consoles and the X session? the graphical one will be at F7
[12:33] <LjL> Cartesian1984: join #kubuntu-offtopic please, if you want me to tell you what exactly i'm trying to do now
[12:34] <PinTo> n e 1 got a link for alien.rpm
[12:35] <n1omi> topyli: woa!! thanks! :D
[12:35] <PinTo> cant find the download
[12:35] <lightbright> if I want to change a whole folders contens permissions to full write, what would I write?  chmod 777 * ?
[12:35] <topyli> n1omi: ancient unix magic :-)
[12:36] <lightbright> topyli: any ideas?
[12:36] <navarone> topyli> I hope no penguins were scarificed...<s.
[12:36] <purplefeltangel> can someone please help me get ubuntu to detect my scanner????
[12:36] <topyli> navarone: not in the 70s, no :)
[12:37] <lightbright> topyli:  i guess you must be new too
[12:37] <smo> lightbright, that should work?
[12:37] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: is you scanner turned on as you boot ubuntu?
[12:37] <lightbright> smo: it should?
[12:37] <kgsnow> lightbright, why not just use chmod -R u+w
[12:37] <smo> altho I'm not sure you'd want everything set executable
[12:37] <topyli> lightbright: use something like chmod -R w
[12:37] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: yes
[12:38] <topyli> lightbright: kgsnow is more right :)
[12:38] <navarone> Pinto you need to search synaptic for alien and install...you cannot install an rpm in ubuntu without alien itslef...chicken before the egg kinda thing
[12:38] <lightbright> kgsnow: whats u+w mean?
[12:38] <lightbright> kgsnow: will chmod -R u+w change ALL files in that folder?
[12:38] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: it is an Afga Snapscan which is supposed to work out of the box, but it says "invalid argument"
[12:38] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  CC meeting still going?
[12:38] <smo> lightbright, -R is recursive, so yes, and them some
[12:38] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, finished 10 seconds ago :)
[12:39] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  I gotta go to work soon but
[12:39] <SoulPropagation> !composite
[12:39] <ubotu> from memory, composite is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769 -- make sure you read the whole thread.
[12:39] <topyli> lightbright: u=user, g=group, o=other (everybody). the + means add. your can use - to reduce rights. then you specify r, w., or x (read, write, execute)
[12:39] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, sorry, but I'm leaving now, 00:36 here and my fiancee is ill
[12:39] <AveTenebrae> hi all
[12:39] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  do you know if Canonical is open for partnerships with start-ups in north america?  A business advisor of mine recommended getting a partnership where I advertise a commercial Linux distribution and they pay me some money to help pay my shop's rent
[12:39] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  ah ok
[12:39] <Seveas> if it's important: mail it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:40] <lightbright> topyli:  chmod 777 * worked too
[12:40] <AveTenebrae> can anyone help me
[12:40] <SoulPropagation> AveTenebrae: problem?
[12:40] <AveTenebrae> yes
[12:40] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: ok sorry no idea
[12:40] <SoulPropagation> what is it
[12:40] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  just looking for inside advice, off the record :)
[12:40] <AveTenebrae> upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 on ppc
[12:40] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: thx anyway
[12:40] <topyli> lightbright: yes, it's the same thing but i find it harder to remember the octal numerical bull :)
[12:40] <lightbright> topyli: ok thanks
[12:40] <lightbright> topyli:  ;)
[12:41] <n1omi> look, ma, no GUI
[12:41] <lightbright> anyone here use a Canon iP1500 printer with Ubuntu?
[12:41] <AveTenebrae> SoulPropagation:  can u help me ?
[12:41] <vbgunz> hello all... I just upgraded the kernel to 2.6.12-10-686... So now, I have to recompile vmware to work with it... vmware is choking on the "location of the directory of C header files that match the running kernel"... By default it is /usr/src/linux/include" but that directory does not exist... When I inspected it, only 2.6.12-9-686* dirs exist... any ideas?
[12:41] <smo> lightbright, I use ip3000 with commercial drivers.  not sure how much it helps you, but I couldn't get it printing much more than plaintext without
[12:42] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me get ubuntu to detect my scanner?
[12:42] <myk3> hey
[12:42] <ktogias> purplefeltangel, sane, xsane
[12:42] <myk3> can some one help me?
[12:42] <topyli> purplefeltangel: what kind of scanner is it?
[12:42] <myk3> im trying to update kopete and i get a error message
[12:42] <purplefeltangel> ktogias: xsane
[12:42] <purplefeltangel> topyli: afga snapscan
[12:42] <myk3> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins                              tallation and add the correct paths!
[12:42] <myk3> thats the error
[12:42] <smo> lightbright, you've taken a look at linuxprinting.org ?
[12:43] <n1omi>  okay, i have a question about terminal mode.. sometimes (like now, on irsii) i can't see what i'm typing.. why is this?
[12:43] <topyli> purplefeltangel: is it usb or parallel port?
[12:43] <purplefeltangel> topyli: i think it's USB
[12:43] <Remmelas> myk3 if you are compiling it, you need to have the X dev files installed i think
[12:44] <SoulPropagation> !breezy
[12:44] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:44] <topyli> purplefeltangel: parallel port is the large port where you put your printer (at least in the old days). you would know :)
[12:44] <purplefeltangel> topyli, yeah, it's USB
[12:44] <SoulPropagation> AveTenebrae: read what ubotu said
[12:44] <AveTenebrae> it's what i have done
[12:44] <AveTenebrae> i've read the wiki
[12:44] <occy> ubotu, LostPassword is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword
[12:44] <ubotu> occy: okay
[12:44] <AveTenebrae> and now my Gnome display manager fail to load
[12:44] <lightbright> smo: yeah its not listed there which is strange for its 1 year old printer
[12:45] <lightbright> smo:  is alien safe to use as I was told to alien a rpm for my printer
[12:45] <occy> Seveas, I hope that's not a kickable offense.  If so... feel free to beat me up.
[12:45] <smo> lightbright, I'm biased, but I hate it with a passion
[12:45] <topyli> purplefeltangel: look here: http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl
[12:45] <occy> Seveas, :P
[12:46] <lightbright> smo:  why?
[12:46] <purplefeltangel> topyli it doesn't have a driver for my scanner...
[12:46] <lightbright> occy: what?
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> topyli it says on the wiki page that my scanner is supported out of the box
[12:47] <occy> lightbright, I added something to the bot.  heh
[12:47] <vbgunz> anyone know the directory that contains my "C header files that match my running kernel? /usr/src/linux/include does not exist... help?
[12:47] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: is your scanner turned on :)
[12:47] <smo> lightbright, I've made a mess of my system in the past by installing debian packages instead of ubuntu ones.  I don't see the sense in going three steps left and adding packages designed for redhat
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> lightbright, yes :P
[12:47] <lightbright> occy: about passwords?
[12:47] <occy> lightbright, yah
[12:47] <occy> I did a search and didn't see it in the keys
[12:48] <occy> so I added it
[12:48] <WebLOCH> hey guys, i have a HP Deskjet 950C  which appears to be connected, but whenever I print nothing at all seems to happen, anyone fancy doing diagnostics?
[12:48] <occy> hope that's ok.
[12:48] <topyli> purplefeltangel: do you have other usb devices? do they work?
[12:48] <purplefeltangel> topyli nope i haven't tried any other USB devices under ubuntu yet...
[12:48] <vbgunz> I think I have it....
[12:48] <vbgunz> thanks
[12:48] <myk3> k
[12:48] <myk3> there is a lot of them
[12:48] <guest__> I have Ubunutu 5.04 for powerpc. Where I can find codecs for playing .vob flies on my Ubuntu
[12:49] <AveTenebrae> wxvlc perhaps
[12:49] <topyli> purplefeltangel: i'm thinking it might be a usb failure. if they say the scanner should "just work"
[12:49] <purplefeltangel> topyli, okay, well in that case what should i do?
[12:50] <theCore> Are they newbies here that want to become good with linux ?
[12:50] <topyli> purplefeltangel: first, get mad and file a bug. then, all the friendly gurus here will help you out =)
[12:50] <purplefeltangel> topyli: will it be able to be fixed tonight? :S i have a project due tomorrow...
[12:50] <WebLOCH> theCore, sure if it will get my printer going :P
[12:51] <gadren> what's your problem, purple?
[12:51] <wjen> can somebody tell me  howto solve this problem  i'm in hoary to breeze   E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:51] <PinTo> my resolution is stuck 640X480 n e 1 know why this
[12:51] <myk3> ok
[12:51] <topyli> purplefeltangel: i don't thing i'll be able to help you with this. note that this is a busy channel with friendly people though
[12:51] <lightbright> smo: so how do I get my printer to work then?
[12:51] <myk3> i cant find it
[12:51] <topyli> purplefeltangel: don't give up!
[12:51] <theCore> WebLOCH, okay what is your prob ?
[12:51] <WebLOCH> lightbright, you having trouble print too ?
[12:51] <lightbright> smo:  you give no solutions :)
[12:51] <myk3> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins                              tallation and add the correct paths!
[12:51] <purplefeltangel> topyli: where should i file the bug?
[12:51] <vision> hmm
[12:52] <purplefeltangel> topyli like, in which category?
[12:52] <kemik> AWH CHRIST IS THIS SDFAF
[12:52] <vision> this the first time using this for me
[12:52] <kemik> goddamn *"#"
[12:52] <myk3> what printer is it?
[12:52] <kemik> CUPS and Ubuntu server install... moar headache PLEASE?
[12:52] <delltony> isn't hte command to show lines in nano   nano +line filename?
[12:52] <WebLOCH> theCore, i attached my HP Deskjet 950C via serial to my computer and added it under the 'printing' dialogs, but whenever I print I am told the document is sent to the printer  nad nothing happens
[12:52] <lightbright> smo: you just tell me what not to do because of personal reasons, yet offer me NO other solution!  I have to ger printer to work, so please offer ideas or solutions
[12:52] <topyli> purplefeltangel: oh, i'd let other people try first. then, it's an installer bug
[12:52] <theCore> WebLOCH, ah a bad driver problem
[12:52] <myk3> `can someone help me
[12:52] <lightbright> WebLOCH: my Canon iP1500 is not in printer listing
[12:52] <myk3> ?
[12:52] <myk3> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins                              tallation and add the correct paths!
[12:53] <theCore> WebLOCH, you see Printer status Ready, right ?
[12:53] <xxvii> anyone know of a quality mp3/CD player with cool interface.. not xine or xmms.. need it for GNOME
[12:53] <WebLOCH> theCore, I added it from the options in the dialogs, I haven't installed a driver yet, its the drive that came with it...  yeah Status is set to Ready
[12:53] <lightbright> smo: its no good just saying everything is bad to try, offer SOLUTIONS :)
[12:54] <theCore> WebLOCH, yea, that's a driver problem
[12:54] <gepatino> myk3, it seems like you need some libs installed
[12:54] <WebLOCH> theCore, they shipped ubuntu with bad drivers?
[12:54] <smo> lightbright, I did say I was biased :)
[12:54] <Remmelas> myk3 sudo apt-get install x-window-system-dev should get you what you need, but really, it'd be easier to just install the software from the repositories
[12:54] <lightbright> smo:  ok ok!  so whats a SOLUTION?
[12:54] <gepatino> myk3, try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop package from aptitude
[12:54] <theCore> WebLOCH, no no it just that ubuntu has put the wrong drivers
[12:55] <smo> lightbright, as I said, I found commercial drivers to do the job, and I've no idea how far the 1500 differs from the 3000 in that aspect
[12:55] <theCore> WebLOCH, one sec. i will try to see what i can do
[12:55] <myk3> o yea i forgot to
[12:55] <WebLOCH> theCore, thanks for any assistance
[12:55] <mrchicago> hello
[12:55] <myk3> i wanted to tell everyone i have sucsesfully converted 2 people to linux this week
[12:56] <mrchicago> how can you create your own gdm theme
[12:56] <_jason> myk3, gj
[12:56] <myk3> thnx
[12:56] <myk3> useing ubunut of course
[12:56] <mrchicago> heh
[12:56] <theCore> WebLOCH, did you try reinstalling the printer?
[12:56] <topyli> xxvii: rhythmbox is the gnome default? not good enough?
[12:56] <TokenBad> whats the new website like ubuntuguide.org but for version 5.10?
[12:57] <_jason> mrchicago, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt_2fTutorials
[12:57] <mrchicago> anyone have any idea how to create a gdm theme
[12:57] <Niomi> me again.. sorry for bugging you all. when running the CLI with no GUI on my laptop, sometimes it cuts off the bottom few lines. it does this during boot also.
[12:57] <_jason> ubotu, tell TokenBad about faq
[12:57] <mrchicago> thanks
[12:57] <WebLOCH> theCore, how does one reinstall the printer?  All I did to install it was click on its name from a list... So I don't really know how i would uninstall it and reinstall it, unless you are suggesting I click on its already highlighted name?
[12:57] <gadren> i don't think there is one right now, Token
[12:57] <kemik> where's the guy that disabled the webinterface for cups ?!
[12:57] <rubem> hi there...
[12:58] <theCore> WebLOCH, lets try something
[12:58] <WebLOCH> theCore, it seems that HP only supply windows drivers too, so not sure where I would get my own
[12:58] <rubem> where can I found good apt repos for ubuntu 5.04?
[12:58] <lightbright> smo: you cant be here in the channel all day just telling people not to do this and that etc WITHOUT offering an alternative SOLUTION
[12:58] <WebLOCH> theCore, sure thing, ready when you are
[12:58] <topyli> TokenBad: ubuntuguide was a bad idea to begin with. it helped newbies zero because it didn't explain anything. it also got obsolete very quickly and plain incorrect
[12:58] <lightbright> smo: so you recommend trying a different driver from the Canon list?  eg, 3000?
[12:58] <theCore> WebLOCH, go in System - Admin - Printer
[12:58] <rubem> anyone?
[12:58] <xxvii> topyli: i'm looking for something with a cool looking interface. rhythmbox is what i use, but i'm looking for something out of the ordinary
[12:58] <WebLOCH> lightbright, your problem with smo is academic, you wont get anywhere talking about it, you will just annoy people, including yourself.  If you come to IRC you need to expect certain attitudes unfortunately.
[12:58] <WebLOCH> theCore, im there
[12:59] <WebLOCH> theCore, its listing my printer as Ready
[12:59] <theCore> WebLOCH: deleted any printers there
[12:59] <rubem> anyone know where to find good apt repos for ubuntu 5.04?
[12:59] <lightbright> WebLOCH: yeah true!  theres always ppl like smo who dont ever offer solutions, just what doesnt work :)
[12:59] <topyli> xxvii: oh i dunno. you're looking for looks, you can deal with any kind of usability? ;-)
[12:59] <theCore> WebLOCH: so the only thing that left in is the new printer icon
[12:59] <lexhider> anyone know how to copy files alphabetically? my iriver usb disk plays in order copied.
[12:59] <SoulPropagation> how do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?
[01:00] <WebLOCH> theCore, yeah done
[01:00] <SoulPropagation> also, how can you have a badger be breezy?
[01:00] <rubem> ???
[01:00] <theCore> WebLOCH: click New Printer
[01:00] <WebLOCH> lightbright, well I wouldnt say smo has been particularly bad, maybe not as helpful as you would like, but he did say he would be biased
[01:00] <SoulPropagation> rubem: it's in /etc/apt/sources.list already.
[01:00] <WebLOCH> theCore, yup, you can go faster im pretty computer literate
[01:00] <theCore> WebLOCH: fellow *carefully* the instruction
[01:00] <topyli> xxvii: you could of course use a weird skin for something like mplayer or xmms or beep
[01:00] <rubem> SoulPropagation No it is not!
[01:00] <theCore> WebLOCH, okay
[01:01] <myk3> hey
[01:01] <xxvii> topyli: what
[01:01] <myk3> i got past the X erro
[01:01] <myk3> r
[01:01] <theCore> WebLOCH, so ... ?
[01:01] <xxvii> topyli: what's beep?
[01:01] <myk3> now i have another one
[01:01] <rubem> SoulPropagation the lists in the source.list is very bad...
[01:01] <SoulPropagation> !mirrors
[01:01] <ubotu> from memory, mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:01] <WebLOCH> theCore,  you just want me to fill in the steps and try again ?
[01:01] <lightbright> WebLOCH: beng biased is 1 thing and then not offering an alternative solution is another!  a person can be biased because they DO HAVE an alterntive solutions, yet smo  doesnt offer that alternative :P lol
[01:01] <topyli> xxvii: beep-media-player is the package. it's the next generation of xmms some people seem to like it
[01:01] <myk3> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[01:01] <myk3> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[01:01] <theCore> WebLOCH, yep , so i will be sure that is a driver prob
[01:02] <myk3> what is Qt
[01:02] <myk3> ?
[01:02] <WebLOCH> theCore, if i do this, it will be exactly the asme as before
[01:02] <xxvii> topyli: i'll check that out.. it's on apt-get ?
[01:02] <SoulPropagation> myk3: it's KDE's version of GTK
[01:02] <lightbright> topyli: is beep-media-player available now for Ubuntu?
[01:02] <TokenBad> topyli, I know that...but was talking about some info like that was on it
[01:02] <xxvii> topyli: on breezy repos?
[01:02] <myk3> Qt3?
[01:02] <TokenBad> and to be honest that guide helped me alot when used it
[01:02] <lightbright> what is qparted?
[01:02] <topyli> xxvii: lightbright: it should be in universe
[01:03] <WebLOCH> theCore, i added it, nothing is happening
[01:03] <WebLOCH> theCore, got a testsheet pending
[01:03] <xxvii> topyli: thanks
[01:03] <lexhider> anyone know how to copy files alphatically? my iriver usb plays in order copied.
[01:03] <WebLOCH> theCore, well it reckons the job is printing
[01:03] <theCore> WebLOCH, okay ... does the printer work under windows ?
[01:03] <WebLOCH> theCore, yeah
[01:03] <theCore> WebLOCH, so the printer is okay
[01:03] <WebLOCH> theCore, yeah
[01:03] <xxvii> topyli: alright, downloading right now.. thanks man
[01:03] <lightbright> topyli: whats it called qparted?
[01:04] <lightbright> topyli:  is qparted similar to cfdisk?
[01:04] <theCore> WebLOCH, the only remaining cause left is the driver
[01:04] <myk3> QT3?
[01:04] <WebLOCH> theCore, yeah you said a number of times, but where do i obtain linux drivers for it?  HP only list windows drivers...
[01:04] <SoulPropagation> lexhider: man ls, look for sort
[01:04] <skapple> can someone tell me how to enable dri on my disc drive? or is it drm?
[01:04] <SoulPropagation> then do cp $(ls -whatever) /whatever
[01:05] <topyli> lightbright: never tried it, but yes, it's a partitioning tool
[01:05] <lightbright> WebLOCH: try this website: http://www.turboprint.de/english.html
[01:05] <lexhider> SoulPropagation, can I do that and keep directory structure?
[01:05] <SoulPropagation> lexhider: you should be able to
[01:05] <theCore> WebLOCH: the thing is that ubuntu support your printer
[01:05] <lexhider> SoulPropagation, thanks
[01:05] <SoulPropagation> yep
[01:05] <lightbright> topyli: qparted is not found in universe
[01:05] <WebLOCH> lightbright, cheers
[01:05] <sunsun> iwas trying to reinstall the xorg file - and this has ruined my install
[01:05] <WebLOCH> theCore, im not seeing your point
[01:06] <TokenBad> hmm...I added the reps like it supposed to be...but when tried to do like the help says
[01:06] <TokenBad> gives error
[01:06] <topyli> lightbright: so it seems. try gparted instead. it's the same thing but for gnome :)
[01:06] <lightbright> topyli: lol wll im using gnome :P
[01:06] <theCore> WebLOCH: how do add your printer ?
[01:07] <theCore> WebLOCH: automatic or manual ?
[01:07] <WebLOCH> theCore, the way you jhust told me
[01:07] <lightbright> anyone here use a Canon iP1500 printer successfuly under Ubuntu?
[01:08] <topyli> apt-get install sleep
[01:08] <tiziano> hellouu
[01:08] <lightbright> !sleep
[01:08] <ubotu> lightbright: Not a clue
[01:09] <tiziano> do you like UBUNTU?
[01:09] <lightbright> me either, no clue bot :)
[01:09] <TokenBad> like I tried to install the restricted formats and flash and stuff..but it says can't find them
[01:09] <SoulPropagation> how do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?
[01:10] <theCore> WebLOCH: from the 1st dialog did you use Local Printer, or you selected a detected one ?
[01:10] <lexhider> SoulPropagation, ls defaults to sorted alphabetically, I'm not sure how to copy a directory and have it's contents copied alphabetically.
[01:10] <SoulPropagation> *shrug*
[01:10] <lightbright> TokenBad: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <lightbright> TokenBad: then type:  sudo aptitude update
[01:10] <guydebord> ok.  I really have tryed to fix this on my own! I have just set up the wireless system on my laptop. Now I am trying to respecify the network to connect to, but no dice. So wlan is is the wireless card, the interface is active.  The gateway device is wlan. okay? Now, in properties the Network Name (I think is nonspecific) i gave my own name. WEP key blank. configuration DHCP.  Should I try entering IP address manually?  If so what are the Subnet mask and G
[01:10] <guydebord> ateway MAsks?
[01:10] <Sedge> anyone have WoW working on Breezy with just wine? (i don't have cedega), i can't get past the mouse bug
[01:10] <WebLOCH> theCore, I selected Local Printer
[01:11] <WebLOCH> theCore, I have also tried the detected one
[01:11] <WebLOCH> lightbright, cheers for turbo print but it doesnt seem to work
[01:11] <lexhider> SoulPropagation, also need to handle " " intelligently.
[01:11] <theCore> WebLOCH, hum what a wierd problem, you should post it on the forum
[01:13] <theCore> WebLOCH: I verified the drivers supplied in ubuntu are okay
[01:13] <foxiness> when i use fire fox and open many tab by time the system gos slow and very slow without response and the hardisk get loaud... ,and i have 512MB RAM and M 1.4 centrino ...is there sol i think am going to use epiphany
[01:13] <WebLOCH> theCore, keeps saying "printer not connected, retrying in 30 seconds"
[01:14] <mark__> where can i download the w32codecs .deb from?
[01:14] <Sedge> !restricted
[01:14] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:14] <Sedge> check out that link mark__
[01:15] <WebLOCH> !FreeFormats
[01:15] <ubotu> methinks freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[01:15] <theCore> WebLOCH: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/hplip_readme.html
[01:15] <mark__> !FreeFormats
[01:15] <foxiness> if any one use epiphany and know about ext to save sessions i will get use it
[01:15] <theCore> WebLOCH: the parallel is'nt supported
[01:15] <SoulPropagation> how do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?
[01:16] <WebLOCH>  theCore, I guess thats that then lol
[01:16] <theCore> WebLOCH: so you will need to plug your printer in the usb
[01:16] <WebLOCH> will need to buy a usb cable then
[01:16] <WebLOCH> cheers for the help
[01:18] <robotgeek> guydebord: if you use dhcp, you don't need gateway's and stuff
[01:18] <SoulPropagation> ...anyone?
[01:20] <tman_ubuntu> How do I change the label name of a mounted usb device?
[01:21] <thompa-A> can someone help with partitioning
[01:21] <david__> Can anyone help me with an Evolution problem?
[01:22] <tman_ubuntu> thompa: what is it you're looking at doing?
[01:22] <thompa-A> i would like to create a persistant home directory first
[01:23] <lightbright> what is libc6 exactly?
[01:23] <tman_ubuntu> That should be easy enough.  Use gparted or qtparted, find free space and then partition a /home directory.
[01:23] <david__> I'm finding that evolution is not seeing the messages in my inbox.
[01:23] <thompa-A> im in manula partitioning and have a 80GB ntfs to shrink, and a 213MB #4 i need to keep for the media player
[01:23] <lightbright> when I use my dvd burner to try to burn something to it using gnomebaker, it says doesnt seem to appear to be juliet or something FAILED!  what can be wrong?
[01:26] <thompa-A> tman_ubuntu: do i delete the ntfs partition and create half for linux?
[01:27] <aeon17x> I had a problem with the latest Linux kernel update.
[01:27] <Teatime_> hi guys I am running ubuntu 5.10 on a powerbook with no net connection (need to configure airport!), but I can't seem to install a simple RPM file, and ALIEN is not a recognised command, what shall I do?
[01:27] <foxiness> can i use gparted to resize the current partition on ubuntu ?
[01:28] <tman_ubuntu> Well I'm not familiar with Manula application.  I believe qtparted or gparted will shrink an ntfs partition to free up some space.
[01:28] <shutdownrunner> Teatime:install alien
[01:28] <Teatime_> how do I install alien without a net connection?
[01:28] <thompa-A> sorry i meant manual partitioning
[01:28] <aeon17x> How do I restore my bootup screen back to what it was? It turned to XUbuntu with the mouse thing in the middle... it looks nice, but I want the orange Ubuntu bootup screen. =/
[01:28] <shutdownrunner> Teatime:go to packages.ubuntu.com and download proper package. do it on a computer in some Cafe
[01:29] <Teatime_> do usb sticks auto mount in ubuntu?
[01:29] <Toma-> hey. whats the best way to bnackup encrypted dvds? i wanna copy my family guy season 1 dvd so i dont ruin it :)
[01:29] <shutdownrunner> Teatime_:they should. at least in my case they never failed to mount
[01:29] <robotgeek> Teatime_: airport extreme cards are not supported
[01:29] <Teatime_> ok I will try that first, is alien a .tar.gz?
[01:29] <tman_ubuntu> be back...
[01:30] <shutdownrunner> Teatime:alien is already packaged for ubuntu so it should be .deb
[01:30] <Teatime_> just double click a .deb?
[01:30] <Ueuecoyotl> I messed up the mouse part in xorg.conf without making a backup and now X won't start. Is there a way to restore it?
[01:30] <g00r0n> are there any good instant messenging alternatives to GAIM?
[01:31] <SoulPropagation> g00r0n: kopete
[01:31] <Toma-> Ueuecoyotl: you can try dpkg-reconfigure
[01:31] <shutdownrunner> Teatime:well, no. from command line as root dpkg -i alien[sth] .deb
[01:31] <navarone> teatime > dpkg -i <name>.deb
[01:31] <Toma-> g00r0n: what protocol?
[01:31] <bur[n] er> when gdebi is released, double-clicking a .deb will be possible
[01:32] <g00r0n> aim, microsoft
[01:32] <Teatime_> shadowrunner: how do I get root in the CLI in ubuntu?
[01:32] <Ueuecoyotl> g00r0n: I like Psi (jabber) and use transports to people who use MSN (or other protocols) but it can't send files or anything like that to people who use other protocols. Only messages.
[01:32] <Ueuecoyotl> Toma-: Thanks, I'll try that.
[01:32] <shutdownrunner> Teatime: I use root, because I'm used to it. You can use sudo if you want.
[01:33] <djk_> can anyone recommend a program to create torrents?
[01:33] <Toma-> g00r0n: gaim is the best multi-protocol IM... amsn is the best msn IM tho!
[01:33] <navarone> Ueue> at login screen you can get terminal br pressing ctrl+alt+F1 and login and edit your file
[01:34] <ppjd0tz9> i want set standards for the minimum characters in passwords based on importance
[01:34] <Ueuecoyotl> navarone: I don't even get to the login screen. It goes into terminal right away. I tried to edit the file but then I remembered that I didn't remember what to put in the mouse part :)
[01:34] <Teatime_> shadowrunner: ok cool alien is installed, but now I have an error installing my rpm :D
[01:34] <Phoul> Wow this is a nice OS
[01:34] <Phoul> First time on it :)
[01:35] <navarone> Ueue> what kinda mouse? Seriel / usb or ps2?
[01:35] <Ueuecoyotl> navarone: Logitech MX1000, USB
[01:35] <Teatime_> shadowrunner: I have dependencies errors :(
[01:36] <ppjd0tz9> i want an mx1000
[01:36] <Ueuecoyotl> It's nice :)
[01:36] <beginxattraction> Hey, ALL of my media players freeze up when I try to play something on them... what could be wrong? I have tried XMMS, Beep, VLC, Totem, amaroK, and Realplayer...
[01:36] <ppjd0tz9> i almost bought that saitek eclipse keyboard the other day but wasnt very impressed with the display
[01:36] <ppjd0tz9> felt cheap
[01:36] <_jason> beginxattraction, elaborate on freeze up... do they start playing?
[01:37] <shutdownrunner> Teatime: that's a problem when you have no connection and you're not using apt
[01:37] <beginxattraction> _jason, no it dosen't play anything... when you press play it just stops and Ihave to force quit
[01:37] <ppjd0tz9> ubuntu is too user friendly. i need to install debian 1.0 or something
[01:37] <shutdownrunner> Teatime:well the only solution is to download all the required packages manually. it might take some time, unfortunately
[01:37] <navarone> Ueue> I have found the mouse section of a conf file you may be able to use or edit to your taste...i will try to paste in pastebin for you...brb
[01:37] <Elsan> Is it dangerous to edit my /etc/fstab file to remove a mount point?
[01:38] <TokenBad> I just tried to issue a command from help page for installing codecs..and it gives error for lame
[01:38] <Ueuecoyotl> navarone: Ah thanks!
[01:38] <_jason> beginxattraction, if you run a media player, such as mplayer, in a terminal, do any errors show up in the terminal?
[01:38] <TokenBad> is that not avail anymore?
[01:38] <purplefeltangel> i am an onion ring.
[01:38] <Xenguy> Elsan: not if you backup the file first :-)
[01:38] <beginxattraction> _jason, I haven't tried it...
[01:38] <navarone> anyone...waht is the pastebin url?
[01:38] <Xenguy> navarone: /topic
[01:38] <_jason> TokenBad, what was the command and what help page are you referring to
[01:39] <Elsan> Xenguy: Thanks :p
[01:39] <navarone> danke
[01:39] <vicente> alguien me puede echar una mano?
[01:39] <TokenBad> wiki.ubuntu.com and that lame wasn't found
[01:39] <vicente> como podria instalarme el audacity
[01:39] <Xenguy> Elsan: yw
[01:39] <vicente> me dice que faltan dependencias
[01:39] <TokenBad> and I added the reps
[01:39] <djk_> !es
[01:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:39] <rohan_> hi all
[01:39] <lightbright> when I use my dvd burner to try to burn something to it using gnomebaker, it says doesnt seem to appear to be juliet or something FAILED!  what can be wrong?
[01:40] <lightbright> any help please?
[01:40] <SoulPropagation> how do you get compositing to start up with gdm (breezy)?
[01:40] <rohan_> i have backports enabled, but still k3b is not showing up in updates .. why ?
[01:40] <ppjd0tz9> what /list command in chat sorts by amount of users? /list -s -u ?
[01:40] <_jason> TokenBad, did you apt-get update after adding the repos?
[01:40] <ppjd0tz9> xchat
[01:40] <lightbright> rohan_: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:40] <lightbright> rohan_: then update
[01:40] <navarone> Ueue> try this  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4881
[01:40] <Elsan> Can I just remove the floppy line from my /etc/fstab file without any problem? I don't have any floppy drive and I don't want to see any traces of floppy at all.
[01:41] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: has to do with long filenames is my best guess
[01:41] <rohan_> lightbright: thanks
[01:41] <lightbright> Elsan: sounds good to me
[01:41] <TokenBad> _jason, yes
[01:41] <N6REJ> evening everyone... I'm having a very interesting problem with date... please look here... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4882
[01:41] <Ueuecoyotl> navarone: Thank you, I'll go try that now.
[01:41] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: yeah that crossed my mind too, but doesnt linux handle long filenames unto DVD?
[01:41] <TokenBad> seems it was renamed to toolame I think
[01:41] <Red-Sox> should I not reboot with the new update?
[01:42] <PokerFacePenguin> its the type of disc u burn....joliet vs other
[01:42] <navarone> Ueue> np
[01:42] <_jason> TokenBad, what's the exact command you are using
[01:42] <TokenBad> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins toolame gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg sox ffmpeg vorbis-tools
[01:42] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: should Jolian and Rockridge be ticked and selected?
[01:42] <Xenguy> Elsan: or just 'comment' the line (i.e. prepend a '#' character)
[01:42] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: do you mean juliet?
[01:42] <Xenguy> Elsan: (which de-activates the line commented)
[01:43] <lightbright> TokenBad: if you use apt-get to install multiple files, do you use space between them?
[01:43] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: yes
[01:43] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: no Joliety
[01:43] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: no Joliet
[01:43] <Elsan> Xenguy: Oh, better thnaks
[01:43] <_jason> TokenBad, and it fails only on toolame?
[01:43] <PokerFacePenguin> I believe you should choose joliet only
[01:43] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: do you have gnomebaker?
[01:43] <PokerFacePenguin> on another partition
[01:43] <Xenguy> Elsan: yw
[01:43] <TokenBad> it fails on lame
[01:43] <TokenBad> says it isn't found
[01:43] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: load gnomebaker and notice when you chose write it has Joliet selected
[01:43] <purplefeltangel> k:-O
[01:44] <Elsan> lightbright: Thanks, gonna try it out.
[01:44] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joliet_%28file_system%29
[01:44] <delltony> anyone here good with php and mind helping me wth a small problem if so pm me thanks just trying to fgure out how to overcome the 2meg upload limit
[01:44] <_jason> TokenBad, pastebin your soruces and lame isn't in the command you pasted
[01:44] <TokenBad> sorry pasted wrong one
[01:44] <TokenBad> just a sec
[01:44] <servando> #ubuntu
[01:45] <servando> hello
[01:45] <TokenBad> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins lame gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg sox ffmpeg vorbis-tools
[01:45] <TokenBad> that was the one
[01:45] <servando> I am new to ubuntu
[01:45] <TokenBad> I changed it to toolame cause I did a search for lame
[01:45] <lightbright> TokenBad: what does all that install?
[01:45] <servando> I am trying to install emacs
[01:45] <navarone> welcome to ubuntu setrvando
[01:45] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: in other words, joliet allows longer filenames
[01:45] <_jason> TokenBad, pastebin your sources then because those packages are showing up for me
[01:45] <servando> any help would be great
[01:45] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: should Jolian and Rockridge be ticked and selected when I burn a DVD?
[01:46] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: so why does it say FAILED, joliet not supported
[01:46] <servando> Navarone : hello
[01:46] <bimberi> servando: the package is emacs21
[01:46] <servando> could you tell me how to install
[01:47] <servando> I've been at it for some time now
[01:47] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: do yoiu have gnomebaker? if so load it and notice it says Joliet
[01:47] <bimberi> servando: use synaptic - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[01:47] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: you probably have too many file formats checked or something...i use KDE as my primary...GNOME is for my development
[01:47] <navarone> hmm...has anyone tried the Lament screensaver? Very nice
[01:47] <servando> thanks
[01:47] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: and I have Joliet selected so why does it say FAILED, joliet not supported
[01:47] <servando> I'll try it now
[01:47] <bimberi> servando: np :)
[01:47] <TokenBad> _jason, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4885
[01:47] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: you mean I should use k3b instead?
[01:47] <dpt> Hello everyone
[01:47] <PokerFacePenguin> thats what i use
[01:48] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: you use k3b under Gnome?
[01:48] <Whtiger> Hello! I've looked in several places and I can't seem to find the update guide. I'd like to not lose any data. Thanks.
[01:48] <theCore> What are those wierd msg from my dmesg ? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4884
[01:48] <PokerFacePenguin> under kde
[01:48] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin:  can you tell me everything that is selected in your k3b before you burn?
[01:48] <PokerFacePenguin> but it should work under gnome
[01:48] <rraajj> Hey all, I wanted to delete the packages copied by my installer to the hard drive. Where can I find them?
[01:48] <bimberi> hi lightbright :) (no idea regarding your burning issue sorry)
[01:48] <lightbright> Elsan: did that work ok for you?
[01:48] <lightbright> bimberi:  hi there :)
[01:49] <_jason> TokenBad, get rid of "breezy-backports" and change it to just "breezy"
[01:49] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: u burning an .iso or what?
[01:49] <dpt> I have ubuntu in spanish and i use gnome. Now, when i log in i have  an error message in gnome and (translating from spanish itnro english) it says "An already panel running was detected and will end now". Any idea?
[01:49] <lightbright> bimberi:  yeah cant burn DVD says something like failed!  joliet not supported
[01:49] <rohan_> lightbright: are you sure u gave me the right post ?
[01:49] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin:  no drag and drop
[01:49] <rohan_> lightbright: d232 is a problem someone is experiencing
[01:49] <lightbright> rohan_: type: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:49] <servando> no luck using synaptic
[01:50] <servando> here is  the error
[01:50] <servando>  Depends: emacs21-bin-common (=21.4a-1ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[01:50] <lightbright> rohan_:  or go to:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 and copy and paste that
[01:50] <rohan_> lightbright: oh, i made a mistake in copy pasting. i used d232
[01:50] <rohan_> :)
[01:50] <servando> man this is a busy channel
[01:50] <bimberi> rraajj: "sudo aptitude clean" does it - /var/cache/apt/archives is the dir
[01:50] <lightbright> rohan_: you need the "d" when uysing wget
[01:50] <TokenBad> _jason, what you mean?
[01:50] <lightbright> rohan_:  just go to:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 and copy and paste that
[01:51] <_jason> TokenBad, lines 29 and 30 have "breezy-backports" in them.  Change "breezy-backports" to "breezy".  then "apt-get update" and try again
[01:51] <rraajj> bimberi: Doesn't that delete ALL packages, including the ones I have already downloaded using apt?
[01:52] <rraajj> bimberi: I just wanted to delete the old files, for they're taking up quite a large space in my disk. :)
[01:52] <lightbright> anyone here use a Canon iP1500 printer successfuly under Ubuntu please?
[01:52] <bimberi> rraajj: it removes all the downloaded deb files (see man aptitude)
[01:52] <strokey> Hello! Is anyone here what can help me with a ubuntu partition making/doing and how to get the web with ndiswrapper or whatever its called?
[01:52] <n0dl> is there a list of printers supported by ubuntu somewhere?
[01:52] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: if i had to guess at the prob, i would go to the advanced tab and check allow 101 char filenames
[01:53] <lightbright> bimberi: I was told of a way to install printer drivers by downloading rpm and use alien to convert to deb for Ubuntu!  is this safe?
[01:53] <_jason> nodl, yes search the wiki for printers
[01:53] <xsje> !time format
[01:53] <ubotu> No idea, xsje
[01:53] <PokerFacePenguin> er 103
[01:53] <Phoul> I just installed ubuntu :) i was just wondering how to configure gnome
[01:53] <Phoul> Like how do i do it?
[01:53] <TokenBad> _jason, isn't that line the first couple lines listed?
[01:53] <bimberi> servando: can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:53] <servando> wow I am glad to see I am not the only one having trouble
[01:53] <TokenBad> where it says breezy main restricted
[01:53] <servando> sure
[01:54] <lightbright> PokerFacePenguin: gnomebaker doesnt have advanced tab
[01:54] <PokerFacePenguin> k3b
[01:54] <dooglus> nalioth: thanks for the "man ntfsresize" tip.  that worked for me eventually.  I had to "chkdsk /f" from windows, which ntfsresize told me to do.
[01:54] <bimberi> lightbright: should be ok, worth a try if you've exhausted other avenues
[01:54] <nalioth> dooglus: good show!
[01:54] <_jason> TokenBad, no, you must be misunderstanding me, join me in #flood for a second
[01:54] <lightbright> bimberi:  yeah :)
[01:54] <strokey> Can anyone here guide a little newbie on how to go about installing ubuntu and using ndispapper? or something
[01:54] <dooglus> nalioth: I had to get drunk before I was brave enough to run the actual resize mind.  but it worked :)
[01:54] <rohan_> lightbright: that still doesnt update my k3b from breezy-backports
[01:54] <PokerFacePenguin> ndiswrapper
[01:55] <strokey> thats it ;o
[01:55] <strokey> I tried the live cd, but i couldent seem to get ndiswrapper to..do anything
[01:55] <lightbright> rohan_: go to that website I gave you anbd copy that and paste into your sources.list
[01:55] <lightbright> rohan_:  than type:  sudo aptitude update
[01:55] <bimberi> strokey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:55] <n0dl>  _jason: whats the search word i tried ubuntu supported printers and ubuntu printers
[01:55] <PokerFacePenguin> strokey: was the wifi card enabled with iwconfig?
[01:55] <lightbright> rohan_:  then type sudo aptitude install k3b
[01:55] <strokey> bimberi , all my websites seem to be blocked atm :/
[01:56] <Weng> Alright, so I've got a system set up that absolutely refuses to in any way, shape, or form, acknowledge the existance of any new or changed hardware until I reinstall Ubuntu. Thoughts on how I can actually avoid re-setting-up this server another 15 times because the hardware has to change subtly?
[01:56] <Phoul> Is anyone willing to help me?...
[01:56] <servando> hey this is a really long are you sure you want it
[01:56] <_jason> nodl, just put "printers" and look at the links, it should be the first one
[01:56] <rohan_> lightbright: ok, k3b is not there for i386
[01:56] <rohan_> thanks anyway
[01:56] <rohan_> :)
[01:56] <rohan_> cya
[01:56] <lightbright> rohan_:  Uncoment backports
[01:56] <lightbright> rohan you need to remove the #
[01:56] <strokey> PokerFacePenguin: can we PM ? This channel is crowded :x
[01:56] <Teatime_> shadowrunner:  10 PACKAGES! to install 1!
[01:56] <bimberi> servando: yes but don't paste it here, put it on that site and give me the url
[01:56] <Phoul> Is somone willing to help me out?
[01:56] <reza> hello
[01:56] <servando> k
[01:56] <intelikey> Phoul that is a bad question.      you might try just asking what you need to know.
[01:57] <Weng> For example, I added a new NIC, in this case, eth1. Ubuntu doesn't see eth1, and even if I manually edit the config files, it refuses to use eth1.
[01:57] <Phoul> Heh well im new and i would like to know some nice stuff about ubuntu
[01:57] <Weng> If I were to reinstall, setup would see eth1, and the resulting system would be able to use eth1.
[01:57] <The_Vox> anybody got a clue about how to find which packages, installed or not, depend on a particular package?
[01:57] <navarone> lightbright > check this url for printer info  http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/canon-list/2005q2/002129.html
[01:58] <servando> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4886
[01:58] <intelikey> nice stuff about ub.... hmmm it's free, it's open source, it is well supported....
[01:58] <Elsan> lightbright: Sorry for not responding. Yes it did, I'm still here, I'm always scared it won't reboot(I did some errors before). It doesn't show up in "Poste de travail" folder(My Computer in english?)
[01:58] <Phoul> anyone?
[01:58] <Phuzion> Can someone suggest a good free SSH client for Windows?
[01:58] <Weng> So, I'm thinking something's a little odd in the hotplug components - any known issues with the Intel Serverworks chipsets?
[01:58] <djk_> can anyone recommend a program to create torrents, azureus is giving me problems?
[01:58] <Phuzion> Because PuTTY is making me mad.
[01:58] <The_Vox> Phuzion: putty is usually the best there is...why is it making you mad?
[01:59] <Elsan> How can I change my loading screen? When I load with the new kernel, it shows the kubuntu loading screen(I have kubuntu-desktop) but I want the original Ubuntu one (or maybe the XFCE)...
[01:59] <Phuzion> You can't go back to the menu screen after making a connection.
[01:59] <Phoul> okay i have a real question now :P
[01:59] <Phoul> Where do i go to configure gnome?
[01:59] <n0dl> does anyone know the wiki search word for ubuntu supported printers?
[01:59] <Teatime_> what is the command to change the permissions on a folder to r w x
[01:59] <Phuzion> Teatime:  chmod rwx filename
[01:59] <servando> I think  see what you are up to I need to uncomment something from the sources.list   Right ?
[01:59] <Phuzion> foldername*
[02:00] <SWAT> will Ubuntu run well on a Celeron 1.4ghz with 512ram? (laptop)
[02:00] <Phuzion> Definately.
[02:00] <SWAT> nice :)
[02:00] <SWAT> thanks
[02:00] <Phoul> Could somone help me?
[02:00] <The_Vox> Phuzion: you mean the connect screen?
[02:00] <Phuzion> Yes
[02:00] <bimberi> servando: ok, you only have the cdrom enabled at present - you need to enable the online repositories -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:00] <lightbright> if I want to apt-get install 15 files, do I use apt-get install file1 file2 file3 ?
[02:00] <_jason> lightbright, yes
[02:00] <Phoul> Umm
[02:01] <lightbright> _jason: cool thanks
[02:01] <servando> sweet
[02:01] <Phuzion> lightbright, don't put commas or any crap between them
[02:01] <Phoul> Is there anyone who can help me figure out where i can configure linux
[02:01] <Phoul> I mean gnome*
[02:01] <The_Vox> Phuzion: uhm...no, you can't go back to that, you need to close putty and open it again...it's one of the few misdesigns of it that I've noticed the few times I've had to use it
[02:01] <cocox> hi dudes all the linux distros use the same kernell ?
[02:01] <navarone> Lightbright> did you go to page wiht printer info?
[02:01] <lightbright> Phuzion: ok just empty space
[02:01] <The_Vox> Phoul: in your menu there must be a Control Center or similarly named link...click it
[02:01] <lightbright> navarone: what page?
[02:01] <Phuzion> lightbright, yes
[02:01] <navarone> http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/canon-list/2005q2/002129.html
[02:02] <jacobu> I am having trouble with an HP zv6000 laptop, running ubuntu 5.10 x64.  x.org says that it is not configured properly and crashes.  I have an ati radeon xpress 200M built into this thing.  Does anybody know what might cause this and/or have a solution?
[02:02] <lightbright> navarone: no sorry i miised your message!  will go now :) brb
[02:02] <Phuzion> lightbright:  apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server5
[02:02] <navarone> lightbright> np
[02:02] <Phoul> The_Vox: where?.... i dont see it
[02:02] <bimberi> cocox: they use the linux kernel yes, but each would have their own variants
[02:03] <cocox> oh thank u and what is the last release for the ubuntu kernell ?
[02:03] <The_Vox> Phoul: I can't tell you exactly where 'cause I don't use gnome, but I'm pretty sure there is one
[02:03] <bimberi> cocox: 2.6.12 (in ubuntu breezy)
[02:03] <Phoul> The_vox do you use KDE?
[02:03] <The_Vox> Phoul: if you can't find it, open a terminal and type "gnome-control-center" (no quotemarks) and hit enter
[02:03] <lightbright> navarone: great thanlks, problem is I cant read Canon.jp to find the canon printer files :(  I cant read Japanese
[02:03] <The_Vox> Phoul: yes, I use kde
[02:03] <varsendagger> has anyone gotten quake 2 to work?
[02:04] <varsendagger> there should be a wiki
[02:04] <n0dl> does anyone know if Canon S300 works with ubuntu
[02:04] <Phoul> Umm vox how do i get kde? i didnt install kubuntu is there anyway tho?
[02:04] <bimberi> cocox: dapper (the ubuntu develoopment release) might have something later but i'm not sure
[02:04] <LjL> Phoul: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <Phoul> sudo? aptitude?
[02:04] <navarone> lightbright> if you traced thread back the author gives his site where files are  http://linux.cergynux.net/canon/   I would think you need the deb file with ip1500 in the name
[02:04] <varsendagger> Phoul, what are you dong
[02:05] <varsendagger> doing
[02:05] <LjL> Phoul: typing that will install your KDE desktop
[02:05] <Phoul> Im trying to get kde
[02:05] <varsendagger> ahh
[02:05] <cocox> i have activaded the automatic updates here in ubuntu ... it will upgrade automaticaly my kernell every new released?????????
[02:05] <Phoul> ljl will it leave gnome?
[02:05] <seth_slackware> hey
[02:05] <Phoul> Because i like both...
[02:05] <LjL> Phoul: yes
[02:05] <Phoul> Okay
[02:05] <dpt> Hello everyone
[02:05] <dpt> I have ubuntu in spanish and i use gnome. Now, when i log in i have  an error message in gnome and (translating from spanish itnro english) it says "An already panel running was detected and will end now". Any idea?
[02:05] <LjL> Phoul: only disadvantage, the menus will be a bit of a mess, as both KDE and Gnome programs will be found in the same menus
[02:05] <seth_slackware> Just did a free install of brezzy and have 1 little issue
[02:05] <servando> bimberi : Thank you very much I got it
[02:05] <dpt> i do not know how to avoid getting that msg when i log in
[02:06] <seth_slackware> libgl1-mesa-dri is broken and apt-get will not fix it
[02:06] <SWAT> Phuzion, still there?
[02:06] <bimberi> servando: great! np :)
[02:06] <navarone> lightbright> I think the last file on the page...1.8 mb
[02:06] <lightbright> navarone: yes I found that website!  and may I ask your opion about soemthing!  Some guy says to use alian to avoid having to install Debian libc6!
[02:06] <nalioth> seth_slackware: if you open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get intall libgl1-mesa-dri" it'll tell you how to fix it
[02:06] <asonjay99> where can i get good linux themes and what not
[02:06] <lightbright> navarone:  can you look at this pls: http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=56725&pp=10
[02:06] <SWAT> Phuzion, what would you say about this laptop (office/programming purposes) HP Compaq Business Notebook nx6110, Celeron M360 1.4GHz, 768MB RAM, 15"TFT (1024*768), 40GB HD, Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN ?
[02:06] <lightbright> navarone:  and scroll to bottom please
[02:06] <SWAT> Phuzion, I only want a 2nd opinion :-)
[02:07] <lightbright> navarone: sctoll to: "Well, actually, you don't need to reinstall libc6. Ubuntu's version works quite well for the driver. It's just not recognized as appropriate by dpkg."
[02:07] <cocox> i have activaded the automatic updates here in ubuntu ... it will upgrade automaticaly my kernell every new released?????????
[02:07] <lightbright> navarone:  whats your personal opinion about doing it that way and converting the rpm using alien as that guy recommedned?>
[02:07] <bimberi> cocox: no, the automatic updates will continue to update your current release's (eg. breezy) kernel which almost certainly won't change version.  You have to take action to go to the next ubuntu release
[02:07] <servando> I am rolling now
[02:08] <lightbright> navarone:  I value your view, so I wanted to ask
[02:08] <servando> I got my beloved emacs
[02:08] <seth_slackware> nelioth: I get a apt-get error 5lineish, can I flood?
[02:08] <bimberi> servando: :)
[02:08] <servando> I take back all the mean things I have said about Ubuntu
[02:08] <asonjay99> does anyone know wher i can find themes for ubuntu
[02:08] <bimberi> seth_slackware: no, pastebin please - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:08] <bimberi> !themes
[02:09] <armor98926> hey people
[02:09] <_jason> asonjay99, do you use gnome?
[02:09] <PokerFacePenguin> lightbright: allien can get you in trouble...handle with care
[02:09] <asonjay99> yes
[02:09] <seth_slackware> ok
[02:09] <armor98926> can anyone tell me how to get something equivalent to flash player 8
[02:09] <bimberi> hm, !themes factoid too long
[02:09] <navarone> lightbright> if you feel more comfortable installing and using alien go for it. I don't think it will bring your system crashing down either way. I have installed some debs from other sources and have not experienced any bad effects. But maybe someone here would be better qualified to respond to your concerns
[02:09] <_jason> asonjay99, http://www.gnome-look.org/
[02:09] <asonjay99> _jason: thank you
[02:09] <bimberi> ubotu tell asonjay99 about themes
[02:09] <Phoul> Umm
[02:10] <varsendagger> lightbright, what are you installing
[02:10] <Phoul> It keeps timing me out
[02:10] <TokenBad> what version of mplayer should I get if I am normal pc?
[02:10] <Phoul> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop <-- it gets part way then times me out
[02:10] <TokenBad> the 386 one right?
[02:10] <lightbright> navarone: ok ty
[02:10] <servando> guess I'll stick around for a while to see what I can learn
[02:10] <armor98926> where can i get something equivalant for flash player 8?
[02:10] <lightbright> varsendagger:  my Canon printer!  Please read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=56725&pp=10
[02:11] <armor98926> equivalent to*
[02:11] <navarone> varsendagger> he want to get printer drivers in deb file and is concerned that they could be unstable as people have suggested using alien instead to convert rpm to deb first
[02:11] <seth_slackware> nelioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4888
[02:11] <iamkirk> wow , i need help badly
[02:11] <bimberi> armor98926: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:11] <cyphase> does anyone have a wireless card working on a desktop out of the box?
[02:11] <cyphase> running ubuntu of course
[02:11] <armor98926> bimberi: what would that do?
[02:11] <lightbright> varsendagger:  notice at end of that page some guy recommened instead to use alien so I dont have to use Debian libc6 overwrtring the Ubuntu one
[02:11] <servando> I have read that espon printers work the best for linux
[02:11] <iamkirk> Im getting grub error 17..... wtf do i so i cant boot into anything
[02:11] <cyphase> servando, mine works at least :)
[02:11] <lightbright> varsendagger: whats your thoughts?
[02:12] <bur[n] er> Seveas: u play with that bmp fork yet?  I know you're a bmp fan
[02:12] <cocox> bimberi: thnx u a looooooot :)
[02:12] <servando> I am thinking about buying a espon
[02:12] <bimberi> armor98926: it includes details on installing flashplayer.  Or are you after 8 specifically?
[02:12] <bimberi> cocox: np :)
[02:12] <_jason> servando, see what they say at linuxprinting.org if you haven't yet
[02:12] <armor98926> bimberi: im after any of them
[02:12] <lightbright> navarone: yeah because I read its not good idea to install the Debian libc6 over Ubuntu!  So it seems safer to alien the rpm saving me having to install Debian libc6
[02:13] <lightbright> navarone:  both ways have drawbacks, yet I wonder which was is the best
[02:13] <armor98926> bimberi: so well that tell me how to do it or is that where i can install it from?
[02:13] <iamkirk> GRUB loading, please wait...
[02:13] <navarone> lightbright> apples and oranges my friend ;)
[02:13] <iamkirk> Error 17
[02:13] <servando> I currently have a lexmark X75
[02:13] <varsendagger> i would agree with not overwrighting libc6  - i personally don't know what libc6 is but it sounds important
[02:13] <iamkirk> can anyone help me
[02:13] <servando> what a piece of junk
[02:13] <bimberi> servando: http://linuxprinting.org/suggested.html
[02:13] <lightbright> navarone:  or I can install the Debian libc6 and then remove it after printer is set up and install the Ubuntu libc6 again!  Whats you think?
[02:13] <lightbright> navarone:  which way would you go? :)
[02:13] <bimberi> armor98926: how to do it :)
[02:13] <servando> I bought it cause it was cheaper to buy a bew printer than to buy more ink
[02:14] <lightbright> navarone: the apples or the oranges? :)
[02:14] <armor98926> bimberi: ok thanx
[02:14] <intelikey> iamkirk google grub error 17 ?
[02:14] <servando> Now I see why
[02:14] <armor98926> later people
[02:14] <varsendagger> lightbright, i have aliend other programs, in fact the rpm's form OO.o run alot alot better then the one i can apt-get
[02:14] <iamkirk> Intelikey : 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[02:14] <iamkirk> This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[02:14] <Milk_> Good evening!
[02:14] <Weng> So, no ideas on why hardware detection refuses to work for me?
[02:15] <lightbright> varsendagger: ok so what you recommend?  alien the rpm so I dont have to overwrite Ubuntu libc6 ?
[02:15] <servando> Got Milk
[02:15] <Milk_> has anyone ever tried to install TinyFugue?
[02:15] <iamkirk> any idea how to fix this without formatting again.... trying to get this working for 2 days
[02:15] <servando> sorry I had to say that
[02:15] <Milk_> servando, hehehe
[02:15] <navarone> lightbright...use alien...you never know when you will need it again a ta later date for another install
[02:15] <seth_slackware> Can someone please look at this error, trying to fix broken libgl1 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4888
[02:15] <Milk_> servando, happens all the time
[02:15] <lightbright> navarone: ok Ill do it that way
[02:15] <pc22> how do u install a *.run file
[02:15] <bimberi> seth_slackware: hm, try "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa-dri_6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1_i386.deb" and retry (also you're misspelling the nick you've been addressing)
[02:15] <seth_slackware> pc22 chmod it right and ./ it
[02:15] <Milk_> pc22, ./FILE or sh FILE
[02:16] <varsendagger> lightbright, yes that is what i'd recommend, i don't thing anything will get hurt
[02:16] <pc22> thanks
[02:16] <intelikey> iamkirk what is the fs type ?
[02:16] <iamkirk> ent 3 or something
[02:16] <Milk_> Ok.. differnet question.. does anyone MUD and can you recomend a client?
[02:17] <n0dl> does anyone know a good site on how to use non web based email?
[02:17] <intelikey> ext3 ?
[02:17] <iamkirk> thats it
[02:17] <iamkirk> cani pm you ?
[02:17] <Got_Milk> Hello Milk_
[02:17] <bimberi> navarone: which album? :)
[02:17] <intelikey> na keep it here.
[02:17] <iamkirk> ok
[02:17] <seth_slackware> bimberi: Worked thanks alot
[02:17] <Milk_> Got_Milk, hehehe
[02:18] <iamkirk> this is gonna take some space....
[02:18] <bimberi> seth_slackware: great! np :)
[02:18] <Got_Milk> change nick
[02:18] <Got_Milk> it is I Servando
[02:18] <intelikey> don't flood.
[02:18] <navarone> bimberi> I have assorted...Listening to once upon a time in the west atm
[02:18] <Milk_> am I really the only one who muds?
[02:18] <intelikey> !paste
[02:18] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:18] <intelikey> iamkirk ^
[02:18] <pc22> what is a dialog program?
[02:18] <kbrooks> ping.
[02:19] <bimberi> navarone: ah :)
[02:19] <kbrooks> How do I get quicktime movies to play?
[02:19] <kbrooks> totem complains of a decoder
[02:19] <navarone> bimberi> I've been adding to my collection...<s>
[02:19] <Got_Milk> wish I could be of more help here
[02:19] <kbrooks> whatever that is
[02:19] <Got_Milk> but
[02:19] <iamkirk> I just got everything working... or so i thought... I ended up installing windows on the laptop as well.....  so i have : 10gb partition for windows... 20gb partition for linux (<3)... and the remaining 45 in an extended partition setup as logical drives...
[02:19] <Milk_> kbrooks, theres a great howto on the wiki about codecs
[02:19] <kbrooks> Milk_, url
[02:19] <Got_Milk> it seems that bimberi has it under control
[02:20] <iamkirk> everything worked fine until i diced up the remaining 45 into the logical drives
[02:20] <mindlace> I have a machine with a XFX SATA RAID card. It is supported by the generic_ide module after 2.6.13. What's the easiest way for me to get to a new .iso that's just like the existing one except with 2.6.13?
[02:20] <Milk_> kbrooks, http://wiki.ubuntu.com  search for media
[02:20] <iamkirk> now i am getting the error 17 about not being able tyo mount the drive
[02:20] <mindlace> (kernel 2.6.13)
[02:20] <bimberi> Got_Milk: heh, no way, just lucky there a few queries i could help with :P
[02:20] <kbrooks> site:wiki.ubuntu.com media < faster
[02:20] <bimberi> *there was
[02:20] <towsonu2003> hi, I am a little panicked about this kernel upgrade... being a newbie and so on... when I do the upgrade, will my old kernels (I have 2, 386 and 686) stay in GRUB so that I can boot ubuntu even if new kernels don't work??? also, what is the total number of entries grub can hold?? I currently have 7 entries (3 for each kernel   1 for windows)??? I'm gonna have a heart attack (and it's gonna be hard to download all thru dial u
[02:21] <navarone> gotta like multiple workplaces...putting file browser and xmss in workplace 2 keeps things tidy
[02:21] <towsonu2003> wow that was a long question => sorry all...
[02:21] <Milk_> kbrooks, didn't realise I was here to make your life faster *WINK*
[02:21] <intelikey> you ran windows fdisk and made the extended partition iamkirk ?
[02:21] <iamkirk> yea
[02:21] <lightbright> varsendagger: ok thanks for your time and help
[02:21] <iamkirk> did it from the point click manager
[02:21] <pirx> hi! if i want a module to load with some certain option, where do i spec that in the startup files? (5.10)
[02:21] <iamkirk> if you get what i mean
[02:22] <intelikey> iamkirk i'm sorry.....  good luck with it.    (you will need it)
[02:22] <kbrooks> milk_: lol
[02:22] <robotgeek> pirx: mostly in /etc/modprobe.d/
[02:22] <iamkirk> really ?
[02:22] <varsendagger> lightbright, hope it goes well
[02:22] <lightbright> do I need to install anything else besides this to get full mulitmedia support, eg, play mp3 and video files etc?
[02:22] <lightbright> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[02:22] <cyphase> Does anyone have a PCI wireless card working on an Ubuntu desktop out of the box?
[02:22] <lightbright> varsendagger:  thanks im going to do all that a little later and tell you the feedback thanks agian :)
[02:22] <varsendagger> cool
[02:23] <varsendagger> Red-Sox, hey!!!
[02:23] <intelikey> iamkirk it has messed up your partition table.   you may be able to fix it.    or may not.
[02:23] <Red-Sox> varsendagger, hey
[02:23] <Red-Sox> varsendagger, I got it done
[02:23] <varsendagger> nice
[02:23] <armor98926> bimberi: hey im trying to view text on a game what do i need?
[02:23] <varsendagger> it wasn't so bad
[02:23] <iamkirk> well im in the partition manager from the ubuntu cd
[02:23] <Red-Sox> varsendagger, thank you soooooo much
[02:23] <towsonu2003> anyone who can help me?
[02:23] <Milk_> well.. I"m off to see if I can't figure out what is wrong with tinyfugue
[02:23] <pc22> what is a dialog program?
[02:23] <iamkirk> i ended up booting from cd.... ive just formatted so ive nothing on the laptop im worried about
[02:23] <bimberi> lightbright: you might need w32codecs, but that should be enough for starters
[02:24] <iamkirk> this would be my 3rd time in 2 days installing ubuntu
[02:24] <lightbright> bimberi:  ah yes I knew I forgot something :) thanks
[02:24] <iamkirk> you have no advice at all ?
[02:24] <intelikey> some one should build a partition tabel rebuilding tool.   that can fix these hibird disks.
[02:24] <lightbright> bimberi:  and after installing all that, do I have to type: gst-register-0.8  ?
[02:24] <varsendagger> Red-Sox, what was it that naolith sugested using to install checkinstall
[02:24] <intelikey> no iamkirk sorry, i don't.
[02:24] <navarone> towsonou> after you confirm new kernel is stable you can probalby delete backup and edit ftab to remove the entries pointing to them
[02:24] <Red-Sox> varsendagger, thats it, thats what it wa
[02:24] <iamkirk> see if i wasnt installing windows i wouldnt have a problem
[02:25] <Red-Sox> s*
[02:25] <iamkirk> fucking winblows is a problem to the bitter end
[02:25] <bimberi> armor98926: where is the text, in a file?
[02:25] <iamkirk> ima kick bill gates in the junk
[02:25] <varsendagger> are there any women here? --- im not being weird, my wife wants to know
[02:25] <varsendagger> iamkirk, true that
[02:25] <method55> i just updated firefox from 1.0.0 to 1.0.7 with the updater and now it doesnt run...i am new to linux
[02:25] <armor98926> bimberi: i dont know its in an actual game so i dont think it is
[02:25] <navarone> iamkirk> he won't feel it...he keeps his wallet next to his junk ;)
[02:25] <nalioth> iamkirk: please be respectful of others
[02:25] <armor98926> bimberi: its an online game
[02:25] <iamkirk> sorry... was just venting
[02:26] <towsonu2003> navarone : so, after kernel upgrade (from I believe 2.9.10 to 2.9.12), old kernels will stay in place and GRUB has no limits.. is that correct / did I understand it correctly?
[02:26] <Greves> how can i enable remote desktop (securely) to access it from an off-network site?
[02:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell varsendagger about checkinstall
[02:26] <mindlace> so ok I see how I can compile a new kernel, but how do I make a new install .iso?
[02:26] <bimberi> armor98926: hard to know sorry, in a bash shell you can "cat" it, or use gedit to view in gui
[02:26] <armor98926> bimberi: cat it whats that mean?
[02:26] <intelikey> iamkirk i do have a sujestion, but you wont like it.     erase everything, install windows on the hd leaving all the free space for other partitions you can and then install linux,  afterwards from within linux make logical drives as desired.
[02:26] <kjcole> method55, try:  cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/weirdnumber/ ; rm XUL.*
[02:27] <N6REJ> nalioth: I need some serious help.... /dev/hda6 is /var/lib/mysql and for some reason it doesn't mount on reboot and there IS an entry in fstab
[02:27] <iamkirk> well see someone gave me somewhat similar advice to that
[02:27] <navarone> towsonou> I don't kow about no limits...but I think you shouldn't fret to much about it. I did kernel upgrade to new 383 and then upgraded again to the 686 arch without prob
[02:27] <iamkirk> they just said to do the parts from winblows instead
[02:27] <iamkirk> things might work after just reinstalling ubuntu
[02:27] <Greves> ?
[02:27] <varsendagger> nalioth, that is awesome
[02:27] <bimberi> armor98926: cat <file>    <- displays the contents of a file (short for catenate)
[02:27] <iamkirk> all i know is ive got the installation of ubuntu down pat ;P
[02:28] <iamkirk> ill let you know how it goes intel
[02:28] <armor98926> bimberi: how can i do that. have you heard of gaio online? if so thats what i cant view is the text in the trainstation area
[02:28] <Got_Milk> well I wanted to say thanks for the help I am off to explore the other channels
[02:28] <Got_Milk> but
[02:28] <iamkirk> what im doing now is only affecting my ext3 and swap partitions
[02:28] <bimberi> armor98926: if it's a long file you can use "less <file>" which lets you step through the file (amongst other things)
[02:28] <Got_Milk> I'll be back
[02:29] <iamkirk> leaving my 2 FAT32 and windows partitions
[02:29] <intelikey> windows didn't used to be able to handle more than one primary partition iamkirk, that is the reason i say use linux to do your extended partitioning, so it doesn't mess with the primaries.
[02:29] <towsonu2003> oki, thanks :)
[02:29] <bimberi> armor98926: aha, sorry i don't how in that environment :/
[02:29] <iamkirk> windows can handle 4
[02:29] <armor98926> bimberi: do you know what im talking about though?
[02:29] <iamkirk> i have 3 and an extended seperated into two logical
[02:30] <intelikey> k that would be xp then, you never specified winver.
[02:30] <kbrooks> http://mochikit.com/screencasts/MochiKit_Intro-1.mov
[02:30] <iamkirk> im sorry , my bad
[02:30] <bimberi> armor98926: i think so :)
[02:30] <iamkirk> ill be clearer next time , as you will hear from me again
[02:30] <kjcole> by the way, if  you like 'less', try 'most'.   it's  in universe, and it's a great pager.
[02:30] <intelikey> k
[02:30] <kbrooks> "totem coulde not play fd://0"
[02:30] <iamkirk> do you ise messenger intel ?
[02:30] <iamkirk> *use
[02:31] <kbrooks> there are no decoders found to handle the stream
[02:31] <intelikey> no
[02:31] <armor98926> bimberi: so you have heard of the site and im talking about the bots in the court yard you know you have to click them to talk to them but i cant see the text that comes up
[02:31] <ravv> Im mounting a share over sshfs, is there any way to make it try ti estabkish the connection automaticaklly periodically?
[02:31] <kbrooks> and i might want to install plugins
[02:31] <ravv> dammit hard to speel in the dark
[02:31] <kbrooks> "totem coulde not play fd://0"
[02:31] <armor98926> bimberi: hopefully that helps out a little
[02:31] <Greves> is there a way to secureyl open up remote desktop to the internet, so i can log onto my home linux box from my work windows box?
[02:31] <bimberi> armor98926: no, i've not played that game, i understand the issue, but i don't think i can offer much help sorry
[02:32] <nalioth> Greves: do it over an ssh tunnel
[02:32] <armor98926> bimberi: alright thanx anyway
[02:32] <kbrooks> "there are no decoders found to handle the stream  and  i might want to install plugins"
[02:32] <Greves> nalioth: do you have some instructions or a page that does?
[02:32] <armor98926> does anyone play on gaiaonline?
[02:33] <typewriter> is there any problems running 64bit ubuntu?
[02:34] <iamkirk> wow.... did you see this intel.. ?
[02:34] <iamkirk> When a system has multiple HDDs the /boot partition has to be on the first hard disk that BIOS boots from and preferebly on the first 1024 cylinder (~8.5GB area) some system BIOS cannot reach any further
[02:34] <iamkirk> learn something new every day :P
[02:34] <Weng> Alright
[02:34] <vanguard> Yo.
[02:34] <Weng> lets try phrasing it this way
[02:34] <nalioth> Greves: ask uncle google "vnc ssh tunnel"
[02:34] <Weng> is there any way that I can FORCE the system to rescan hardware?
[02:34] <ravv> Greves, ssh tunnel using putty
[02:34] <bimberi> typewriter: well no, unless nonfree binary formats are important to you (flash, java ...).  also wine isn't available (possibly a good thing :P)
[02:34] <zblach> hey. i can't remember. how to burn .bin and .cue in ubuntu?
[02:35] <intelikey> iamkirk yeah.
[02:35] <Weng> Since dmesg hasn't been updated... EVER, I can only assume it's actually NOT scanning during boot.
[02:35] <kbrooks> Weng, man sfdisk
[02:35] <Weng> (how that's even possible, I can't even begin to imagine.
[02:35] <armor98926> bimberi: speaking of wine how do i get a good version of it on my pc?
[02:35] <bimberi> typewriter: sorry, java is available (D'Oh)
[02:35] <armor98926> bimberi: and with wine cant i install window things?
[02:35] <nalioth> ravv: putty is for windows
[02:36] <ravv> DUH
[02:36] <[3Style] > PokerFacePenguin: um
[02:36] <bimberi> armor98926: it's in the ubuntu repositories
[02:36] <zblach> how to burn .bin with ubuntu? i can't remember which program (if any) i need
[02:37] <bimberi> armor98926: theoretically yes, check for what runs at http://winehq.org
[02:37] <kbrooks> zblach, bin2iso ?
[02:37] <armor98926> bimberi: what do you mean sorry im not that great with programs
[02:37] <Weng> kbrooks: I fail to see how changing the partition tables on the drives it can see is going to help it see the other drives I just added, or to see the NICs that it's ignoring.
[02:37] <IamSam> hey
[02:37] <IamSam> has anyone seen the python channel
[02:37] <pjssilva> Hello, I have two systems experiment major kernel leaks. I believe it may be related to inotify and the following bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18473. Is there anybody else experimenting weird memory leaks in their system?
[02:38] <iamkirk> Intel... once i got ubuntu to write grub to the mbr things seem to be working fine
[02:38] <zblach> kbrooks, can't seem to find that one with synaptic.
[02:38] <intelikey> iamkirk some system installers prefer to make a /boot partition on the first data sector of the hd of about 50m - 250m in size.  but that is mostly for multi-boot systems where you may have 4/5 *nix + 1/2 windows systems installed and maybe vmware.
[02:38] <typewriter> all the US mirrors are slow...
[02:39] <bimberi> armor98926: "sudo aptitude install wine" will install it (or use synaptic)
[02:39] <lightbright> is it hard to install limewire?
[02:40] <armor98926> bimberi: thanx
[02:40] <LjL> !tell lightbright about limewire
[02:40] <kbrooks> http://mochikit.com/screencasts/MochiKit_Intro-1.mov < plays fine?
[02:40] <bimberi> armor98926: np :)
[02:40] <_jason> kbrooks, yes
[02:40] <devilz> hi
[02:40] <devilz> can i ask someone where can i get password of root
[02:40] <devilz> i just installed ubuntu
[02:40] <_jason> kbrooks, well the last link you pasted did, I assume that's the same one?
[02:40] <intelikey> !root
[02:40] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:40] <lightbright> LjL: thanks :)
[02:40] <armor98926> later people and thanx again
[02:41] <bimberi> armor98926: cya :)
[02:41] <intelikey> devilz root password is not set unless you set it.
[02:41] <devilz> intelikey, well
[02:41] <devilz> how i set it
[02:41] <lightbright> LjL: how do I install Java?
[02:42] <lightbright> !tell lightbright about Java
[02:42] <LjL> !tell lightbright about javadebs
[02:42] <kbrooks> itokay
[02:42] <kbrooks> ok
[02:42] <bimberi> lightbright: you can "/msg ubotu java" too :)
[02:42] <intelikey> devilz 'sudo passwd '   and when it first asks for your password type your user password, then follow the instructions.
[02:42] <navarone> lightbright> in Add Applications Internet/More programs you can install Blackdown java...it will tell it must enable multiverse repos first
[02:43] <lightbright> bimberi:  yes I realised that now as it told me :) hehe sorry
[02:43] <_jason> devilz, you don't need root, just use sudo for everything
[02:43] <lightbright> navarone: ok thanks
[02:43] <bimberi> lightbright: np :)
[02:43] <TokenBad> azureus isn't supported by ubuntu anymore right?
[02:43] <TokenBad> or whatever cause of java?
[02:43] <navarone> lightbright> i installed it and my java based p2p client is flawless
[02:44] <devilz> ah ty
 devilz, you don't need root, <--- do what?    me thinks you mean you don't need to set a root password.
[02:44] <zblach> TokenBad, there was some package mismanagement
[02:44] <devilz> so i dont need su
[02:44] <N6REJ> <---- desperately needs help with his /etc/fstab configuration I think
[02:44] <_jason> intelikey, yeah that's what i meant
[02:44] <devilz> btw
[02:44] <devilz> do i have msn
[02:44] <devilz> on ubuntu
[02:44] <N6REJ> *EEEK*
[02:44] <bimberi> devilz: you can use "sudo -i" to get a root shell (without having to set a root password)
[02:44] <intelikey> !msn
[02:44] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know
[02:45] <TokenBad> zblach, so its back in..or still isn't?
[02:45] <zblach> TokenBad, don'tinstall azureus with synaptic
[02:45] <zblach> install it manually
[02:45] <zblach> i was having isuses with it and eclipse
[02:45] <nate1231> hello guys
[02:45] <N6REJ> intellikey: I've got a serious fstab problem... its not mounting one of the partitions for some reason.
[02:45] <lightbright> navarone: ok i selected java Web Start Blackdown Java :)  is that all I need?
[02:46] <TokenBad> zblach, ok just apt-get install azureus or download it from the site and install?
[02:46] <navarone> lightbright> I think so
[02:46] <Greves> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[02:46] <Greves> any idea?
[02:46] <lightbright> navarone: what p2p client did you install?
[02:46] <navarone> lightbright> phex2.8
[02:47] <intelikey> devilz if you are used to linux and using the root account for admin.  you can set the root password and even remove the sudo package it you want.  but the ub default way of doing admin actions is "sudo blah"
[02:47] <navarone> google it...i used it in windows as well...big improvement in the newer release
[02:47] <lightbright> navarone: is phex2.8 similar to Limwewire?
[02:47] <intelikey> N6REJ what error ?
[02:47] <navarone> lightbright> it only accesses gnutella
[02:47] <nate1231> is this the support channel?
[02:48] <nate1231> for noobs?
[02:48] <lightbright> navarone: is that good? :P
[02:48] <lightbright> nate1231: im a newbie :)
[02:48] <nate1231> yup
[02:48] <nate1231> i am
[02:48] <lightbright> navarone:  how do i install phex2.8?
[02:48] <intelikey> and N6REJ cat /etc/fstab and give us the line that has that mount point in it.
[02:48] <N6REJ> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4890 this is my fstab.. the partition in question is /dev/hda6 it doesn't mount after reboot.  Originally i was labled /usr/local/mysql when I partitioned it but I didn't know that mysql datalibs live in /var/lib/mysql
[02:49] <intelikey> ok now what error N6REJ ?
[02:49] <N6REJ> myql doesn't start because /var/lib/mysql isn't right.
[02:49] <JRlinux> I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 on my other computer.  During the installation, I did not see a question of the root password!  Now I cannot operate as SU because it asks for a password that I do not know.
[02:49] <N6REJ> there is a /var/lib/mysql w/o /dev/hda6 being mounted ( which I think is wrong ) but thats not where the proper data is.
[02:50] <navarone> lightbright> it's like gnutella-gtk...but is a bit simpler to understand and configure. After installing blackdown you dl they zip file and use ark to extract to folder of your choice...I used phex folder in home directory...you then open terminal , cd to phex folder and issue java -jar phex.jar
[02:50] <lightbright> how can I make sure ubuntu is using hda2 for swap?
[02:50] <bimberi> JRlinux: use "sudo -i" with your own password
[02:50] <nate1231> how do I upgrade to breezy?
[02:50] <bimberi> !root
[02:50] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:50] <bimberi> !breezy
[02:50] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:50] <nate1231> thanks
[02:51] <JRlinux> bimberi, thanks.  I will try that.  Is there any way to learn the mysterious root password?  or to change it?
[02:51] <bimberi> np :)
[02:51] <Greves> !sshd
[02:51] <ubotu> from memory, sshd is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[02:51] <lightbright> bimberi: how can I make sure ubuntu is using hda2 for swap now as i changed it as it was using hd5 before.
[02:51] <bimberi> JRlinux: sudo passwd (to set one)
[02:51] <N6REJ> intelikey: if I reboot and do not manually mount /dev/hda6, then mysql will not start, /var/lib/mysql exists with the wrong data.  If I then manually mount /dev/hda6 all is well but this seems wrong!
[02:51] <armor98926> bimberi: is their anyway to get an upgraded version of Gaim?
[02:51] <devilz> hey
[02:52] <bimberi> armor98926: possibly by compiling it yourself
[02:52] <devilz> can you tell me is it possible to talk with a microphone somehow
[02:52] <navarone> lightbright> when you extract to folder you can go and read the docs...tells you how to set it up
[02:52] <armor98926> bimberi: how do i do that
[02:52] <devilz> with other people
[02:52] <intelikey> N6REJ 'sudo mount  /var/lib/mysql '  does that mount with no error ?
[02:52] <JRlinux> bimberi, I tried that, but it would not accept the one I wanted.
[02:52] <devilz> for eg. my friend on a msn
[02:52] <bimberi> lightbright: cat /proc/swaps
[02:52] <N6REJ> intelikey: just umount /dev/hda6 first?
[02:53] <Weng> .... Okay, apparently support for this system is just plain poor
[02:53] <intelikey> yeah
[02:53] <Weng> Because it also detects and ignores the second CPU
[02:53] <N6REJ> ok, one moment
[02:53] <themachine> does anyone have an idea how to access the partition from ubuntu?
[02:53] <Weng> Fuckit, /win2k3
[02:53] <themachine> Im trying to get wine running on some apps
[02:53] <intelikey> may have to kill mysql for it to umount
[02:53] <lightbright> navarone:  ok :)
[02:54] <intelikey> may have to kill mysql for it to umount N6REJ
[02:54] <varsendagger> so aout of 547 people her there are no women
[02:54] <KenWeill> my satellite modem was detected on ubuntu 5.10 device manager.. but doesn't seem to work.. what should i do about this?
[02:54] <lightbright> bimberi: it said: /dev/hda2                               partition       747012  55832   -1
[02:54] <lightbright> bimberi:  looks good?
[02:54] <ravv> Im mounting a share over sshfs, is there any way to make it try ti establish the connection automaticakly periodically? (or as soon as internet connection is up)
[02:54] <bimberi> armor98926: download source from whereever, compile, install
[02:54] <bimberi> lightbright: yep :)
[02:54] <lightbright> bimberi:  excellent :)
[02:54] <JRlinux> bimberi, But I did not try it with the sudo -i  .... OK, that might do it.
[02:54] <intelikey> varsendagger this is irc where men are men, and women are men, and children are fbi agents.
[02:55] <armor98926> bimberi: do you know a site for that?
[02:55] <N6REJ> intelikey: yeah thats what I did and it worked fine... want me to try rebooting it first?
[02:55] <navarone> lightbright> when set up i would play witht eh bandwidth and number of connection to get a good mix of efficiency and search results
[02:55] <bimberi> JRlinux: yes, give that a try :)
[02:55] <lightbright> navarone:  ok
[02:55] <intelikey> no.
[02:55] <N6REJ> k
[02:55] <intelikey> N6REJ it mounts ok with that command ?
[02:55] <N6REJ> yes
[02:55] <intelikey> k
[02:55] <gimmulf> Is there any software for making Flash for linux?
[02:55] <nate1231> whats a good irc walkthrough? i need to learn this thing
[02:56] <bimberi> armor98926: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/   i don't have a howto for compiling on ubuntu at hand sorry, perhaps search the wiki
[02:56] <armor98926> k
[02:56] <N6REJ> 'sudo mount /var/lib/mysql' gets root prompt, then 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start' "checking for crashed tables"
[02:57] <themachine> how do you mount a windows partition?
[02:57] <themachine> ls /dev/hda1 is not showing me anything
[02:57] <intelikey> N6REJ i know it isn't supposed to need it but add auto after defualts in your fstab        defaults,auto   and then try it.
[02:57] <ravv> Any good site with tips and tricks for ubuntu, im looking for the neat stuff that really help but you, the kind of stuff that you can't live without once installed. (Not the guide or blog)
[02:57] <armor98926> bimberi: thanx
[02:57] <N6REJ> k
[02:57] <bimberi> armor98926: np :)
[02:57] <max> hey
[02:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell themachine about mountwindows
[02:58] <bimberi> chaff
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> ravv, bash
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> i can't live without it ....
[02:59] <Greves> !sudo
[02:59] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:59] <bimberi> !cli
[02:59] <ubotu> I heard cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/, or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[03:00] <intelikey> and N6REJ you may need to make sure that mysql is not trying to start before the mount all command is issued to init.   just a thought.
[03:00] <N6REJ> intelikey: I've added that umounted /var/lib/mysql, should I delete the /var/lib/mysql folder that is there right now?
[03:00] <N6REJ> intelikey: how do I check that?
[03:00] <reiki> regarding Flash. I read the wiki. Hard to tell if it's updated for Breezy. currently have flashplayer-mozilla installed. A flash chat app crashes firefox AND epiphany. Do I need to do something different?
[03:00] <intelikey> N6REJ it will have to have an empty folder to mount on.    'well it doesn't have to be empty'
[03:01] <^cougar^> Hi all, Who may I talk to about a couple of questions that I got.
[03:01] <N6REJ> intelikey.. that MIGHT be teh problem!!!
[03:01] <N6REJ> its not empyt!
[03:01] <intelikey>  /var/lib/mysql must exist.       it doesn't have to be empty but can be.
[03:01] <N6REJ> oh ok!..
[03:01] <N6REJ> reboot?
[03:02] <bimberi> ^cougar^: just ask your questions, hopefully someone can help
[03:02] <nate1231> does anyone have any guides to irc chat
[03:02] <intelikey> yeah watch the startup dialog for anything that fails,  if you have boot splash use [esc]  so you can watch for errors N6REJ
[03:03] <Ophiocus> what s the command to stop start apache again?
[03:03] <Phuzion> apache2 -k start
[03:03] <robotgeek> Ophiocus: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:03] <^cougar^> Ok, I am running the live CD of Ubuntu, and it does not see any of my hard drives, is this normal on live CD?
[03:03] <nate1231> anyone know how to get my wireless card to work.. or should I just not even touch it?
[03:04] <Phuzion> nate1231:  Do you have wired ethernet as an alternative?
[03:04] <N6REJ> intelikey: its mounting "/usr/local/mysql" which is what I told it it would be named when I first installed the server :(
[03:04] <nate1231> yes I do
[03:04] <nate1231> im on it now
[03:04] <Phuzion> Are you looking to move the computer to a place that wired ethernet can't reach?
[03:04] <lightbright>  when a person first installs Ubuntu, do they have to pick "boot" from cfdisk for hda?
[03:04] <nate1231> lol I get where your going with this
[03:05] <dooglus> I'm new to 'grub'.  What do I need to do after editing grub's menu file?
[03:05] <intelikey> ah that is a mysql config error N6REJ,  and i'm no sql'r
[03:05] <nate1231> yes I am .. but I can stay where I am also
[03:05] <Phuzion> nate1231:  2 reasons to stick with wired:  1)  No chance of people intercepting your connection (unless you're ignorant) and 2) Faster (for the most part)
[03:05] <nuck> hi i just installed ubuntu 5.10 but i find it there are some packages in the 5.04 install disk that aren't in the 5.10 i.e. emacs... why is that?
[03:05] <^cougar^> Ok, I am running the live CD of Ubuntu, and it does not see any of my hard drives, is this normal on live CD?
[03:06] <nate1231> I dont really care of my security... or the speed
[03:06] <dooglus> ^cougar^: run this in a terminal: "sudo mkdir /mnt/win; sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win; cd /mnt/win"
[03:06] <Phuzion> nate1231:  Would you care if you got accused of hosting child porn?
[03:06] <N6REJ> intelikey: no, I think the kernel is confused... when I initially partitioned the disk during install, I told it it would be /usr/local/mysql  then I changed that ( or tried too ) when I discovered that mysql data lives at /var/lib/mysql
[03:06] <nate1231> well...
[03:07] <Phuzion> If that would bother you, then I'd suggest caring about security.
[03:07] <nate1231> I seriously doubt that would happen
[03:07] <Phuzion> Are you on broadband?
[03:07] <nate1231> yes
[03:07] <dooglus> nate1231: don't doubt it.  it's well possible.
[03:07] <Phuzion> It's possible.
[03:07] <nate1231> I didnt say it wasnt possible
[03:07] <nate1231> I have my router setup pretty tight
[03:07] <sethk> for all the people bitching about KDE, I just installed KDE from synaptic and it had not a single hitch
[03:07] <Phuzion> My friend found 25GB of porn on his hard drive once.  Someone put it on his Windows shared folder through his wireless.
[03:08] <LotsaCabo> Anyone got Skype running?
[03:08] <nate1231> I just wanted to use my wireless card
[03:08] <dooglus> !gru
[03:08] <ubotu> dooglus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:08] <dooglus> !grub
[03:08] <ubotu> grub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:08] <nuck> Phuzion really? is that possible without the guy knowing?
[03:08] <nate1231> not argue about hosing kiddie porn
[03:08] <sethk> of course, the fonts look awful, but that's true on the other distros too  :)
[03:08] <Ykstort> Where can I get ubuntu's human theme for gnome so I can have it on Gentoo?
[03:08] <bimberi> dooglus: nothing needed after editing menu.lst
[03:08] <nuck> hi i just installed ubuntu 5.10 but i find it there are some packages in the 5.04 install disk that aren't in the 5.10 i.e. emacs... why is that?
[03:08] <primoturbo> Hey guys what's the command to remount my drives in fstab file?
[03:08] <Hobbsee> primoturbo: sudo mount -a
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> primoturbo, mount -a
[03:09] <primoturbo> thnx
[03:09] <Phuzion> nuck:  Of course, he could also have installed Apache as a background service, got the IP address, and given it out to people.
[03:09] <dooglus> bimberi: what if I've introduced a syntax error to the menu.lst?  will I still be able to boot?  is there a syntax checker?
[03:09] <lzybm> wow. im not the only person to use Ubuntu ;p
[03:09] <sethk> lzybm, sure you are.  these are all 'bots
[03:09] <lzybm> LMAO
[03:09] <nate1231> Phuzion: any help on how t setup my wireless card?\
[03:09] <dooglus> bimberi: I usually use lilo.  after editing lilo.conf I run the 'lilo' command and it tells me exactly how much of an idiot I am
 Where can I get ubuntu's human theme for gnome so I can have it on Gentoo?
[03:09] <Phuzion> nate1231:  Nope, sorry dude...
[03:10] <bimberi> dooglus: not that i know of,  you can (temporarily) edit commands while booting (hit e on a highlighted line)
[03:10] <sethk> nate1231, I forgot your original question.  what's going on with the wireless card?
[03:10] <^cougar^> The stupid root won't see my password
[03:10] <TokenBad> how handle bz2 files in ubuntu?
[03:10] <nate1231> lol well... that sux dude...
[03:10] <nuck> anyone else using ubuntu 5.10
[03:10] <dooglus> bimberi: OK, I'll just reboot and see what happens then.  thanks :)
[03:10] <bimberi> dooglus: ... which in no way means that there isn't a sanity checker of some sore :)
[03:10] <nate1231> sethk: I just wanted to get it to work is all
[03:10] <lzybm> so. all these guys are bots??
[03:10] <sethk> nate1231, which card?
[03:10] <nuck> i need some help, i want to use it instead of 5.04 but i find some stuff in 5.04 missing in the 5.10 install cd
[03:10] <sethk> lzybm, absolutely.
[03:10] <Elsan> How can I change my loading screen? When I load with the new kernel, it shows the kubuntu loading screen(I have kubuntu-desktop) but I want the original Ubuntu one (or maybe the XFCE)...
[03:10] <JRlinux> Totem would not play my mp3 file.  What do I need to do?
[03:10] <lzybm> lol. dont wanna sound like a noob, but i am one ;P
[03:10] <nate1231> is there a select few that work?
[03:11] <intelikey> anyone know where the official #gentoo is ?   what server ?
[03:11] <dooglus> TokenBad: "bunzip2" or "tar xf" or "bzcat" or "bzdiff", "bzgrep", etc.  in a terminal, type bz and hit tab a few times.
[03:11] <LotsaCabo> I'm running into issues with libqt-mt versus libqt3c102-mt.  Skype requires libqt3c102-mt, but I have another version installed so that I can learn Qt 3.  Anyone know how to get Skye running without replacing the version that is installed already?
[03:11] <sethk> nate1231, there are quite a few that are known to work.  Your's may be one of them
[03:11] <nate1231> ok
[03:11] <Phuzion> intelikey:  It's here, just /j #gentoo
[03:11] <^cougar^> After I install Ubuntu 5.10, what can I use or get so I can run my previous windows products, like my games and photo editing software, as well as running my nvidia geforce 5500 vid card?
[03:11] <bimberi> LotsaCabo: yes, download Seveas' deb for skype via http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:11] <n0dl> how do i open rar files?
[03:12] <sethk> LotsaCabo, set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH in a terminal, and run Skype from that terminal
[03:12] <robotgeek> Ykstort: http://robotgeek.no-ip.info/Human.tar.gz
[03:12] <nate1231> wel.. its a zyxel
[03:12] <n0dl> does anyone know how to open rar files?
[03:12] <nate1231> sethk: its an ZyXEL G-302
[03:13] <sethk> n0dl, rar is an archiving/compression tool.  you can install it from synaptic
[03:13] <sethk> nate1231, I haven't played with that one yet.  Does ubuntu see it?
[03:13] <nate1231> it sees a wireless connection" card" but thats as far as i know what it see
[03:14] <intelikey> yeah Phuzion i found it just befor you answered, tanks
[03:14] <primoturbo> hey dudes quick question, you know in natalius when you surf folders you get buttons for the list structre like usr - bin
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> n0dl, unrar -x file.rar i believe .. try it ... either that or just unrar file.rar ... i forgot which one
[03:14] <n0dl> sethk: whats the package called?
[03:14] <nuck> is there a command to print the partition and what's allocated in that partition? thanks
[03:14] <primoturbo> how do I make it text based
[03:14] <primoturbo> so I can write in the location
[03:14] <robotgeek> nuck: sudo fdisk -l
[03:14] <primoturbo> instead of pressing buttons
[03:14] <N6REJ> intelikey: what should the label type be?  right now its dos!
[03:14] <nuck> robotgeek thx
[03:14] <sethk> n0dl, I'm not sure, use the search function, it finds it
[03:14] <primoturbo> like in browsers the url area is not button based
[03:15] <primoturbo> but you can type stuff in
[03:15] <JRlinux> Apparently I need an mp3 decoder.  How do I get one?
[03:15] <intelikey> N6REJ im not a mysql user, you need to ask someone that is.  sorry.
[03:15] <bimberi> ^cougar^: you can try running them with wine, or better to look for linux equivalents (eg. gimp for photo editing)
[03:15] <joe_> hi, can ubuntu on master HD boot windows on slave HD?
[03:15] <sethk> nate1231, that's all you ever see until you do something with it
[03:15] <griffin_> is this a forum for ubuntu rookies to ask questions? Or is there a more specific room for that
[03:15] <bimberi> ubotu tell ^cougar^ about nvidia
[03:15] <N6REJ> intelikey: this is not about mysql at this point... this is about parted
[03:15] <_jason> primoturbo, ctrl+l (the letter L)
[03:15] <bimberi> griffin_: ask away :)
[03:15] <sethk> nate1231, click on it and configure it
[03:15] <nate1231> sethk: hmm.. whhats the next step then? I have already tried to configure it
[03:15] <bimberi> ubotu tell JRlinux about mp3
[03:16] <intelikey> label can be anything you like as far as i know. N6REJ
[03:16] <joe_> hi, can ubuntu on master HD boot windows on slave HD?
[03:16] <sethk> nate1231, why do you say "tried"?  didn't it configure?
[03:16] <N6REJ> intelikey: hmmmmm....
[03:16] <primoturbo> _jason: thanks but how do I make it permenant
[03:16] <N6REJ> intelikey: something stinks!
[03:16] <nate1231> sethk: tried "configured" no connection to the router.. im not connected to the internet
[03:16] <nate1231> sethk: router settings are correct.
[03:16] <_jason> primoturbo, that i don't know
[03:17] <sethk> nate1231, did you see your wireless network in the dropdown box?
[03:17] <ShadyRevolution> I need help, I finally got the Ubuntu 5.10 in the mail, and I put the live mac disk in my old G3 Imac, it was working fine but towards the end of the setup the screen went black and never came back on.  The cd drive is still moving and making noises, I have waited half and hour and it still isn't doing anything.
[03:17] <intelikey> if that partition is going to be used exclusively for sql call it mysql  or something.     a partition label, is just that a label.
[03:17] <LotsaCabo> No way.  There is absolutely no way that Skype installed that fast.
[03:17] <JRlinux> ubotu help mp3
[03:17] <armor98926> bimbie: how do i install gaim-w
[03:17] <primoturbo> Does anyone know how to get the browser in natilus instead of having to press ctrl + l ?
[03:17] <primoturbo> thanks
[03:17] <nate1231> sethk: Negative I had to create my network essid
[03:18] <sethk> nate1231, then it isn't really working
[03:18] <griffin_> I am trying to install my Lexmark z600 (connected by USB). Ubuntu finds the printer, but wants to install it as the Z11. I downloaded drivers from Lexmark, but they came in a shell file, not the ppd file that ubuntu wants to use. I am curious what a good solution would be?
[03:18] <nate1231> sethk: correct
[03:18] <nate1231> thats my problem
[03:18] <bimberi> armor98926: no idea sorry (bimbie, sheesh! :P)
[03:18] <armor98926> bimberi: sorry
[03:18] <JRlinux> bimberi,  ubotu is ignoring me, it seems
[03:18] <sethk> nate1231, that's not a good situation, where it is seen, but not working.
[03:18] <bimberi> !mp3
[03:18] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:18] <mgcross> any else have Enemy Territory crash only when starting a server...driving me crazy looking for a fix...get signal 11
[03:18] <nate1231> sethk: lol
[03:18] <bimberi> JRlinux: there you go ^^^^
[03:18] <sethk> nate1231, I would google for driver updates
[03:18] <nate1231> hmm
[03:18] <JRlinux> ! mp3
[03:18] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:18] <armor98926> bimberi: i found the site but i dont understand the directions can you help me?
[03:19] <nate1231> sethk: I dont think this cards supported
[03:19] <ShadyRevolution> can anyone helo me?
[03:19] <sethk> nate1231, it would certainly make your life easier to use a card that works out of the box
[03:19] <ShadyRevolution> help me?
[03:19] <nate1231> sethk: = no linux drivers... I think its installed itself on some other drivers
[03:19] <sethk> nate1231, I have gotten them to work, but it takes hours.  and hours.  and ...
[03:19] <sethk> nate1231, that's possible
[03:19] <armor98926> bimberi: if so here is the site http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/install.html
[03:19] <nate1231> thats why i asked what cards are supported.,
[03:20] <joe_> i would like to see if there's a way to dual boot from ubuntu on master HD to windows on slave HD, anyone?
[03:20] <nate1231> I wasnt sure... what I could get
[03:20] <bimberi> armor98926: no sorry, i have to go and do some (paid) work :)
[03:21] <LootBeer> can someone help me install my macan someone help me install my master boot loader on my hda.. seems the hda now cannot boot at all.. i screwed up my lilo, contents of hdd is there thoughster boot loader on my hda.. seems the hda now cannot boot at all.. i screwed up my lilo, contents of hdd is there though
[03:21] <griffin_> joe_ install windows on the master, then swtich the jumper to slave and install the second HDD with jumpers to master and install ubuntu
[03:21] <ShadyRevolution> can anyone help me get ubuntu working on my old G3 imac?
[03:21] <armor98926> bimberi: alright thanx anyway
[03:21] <bimberi> armor98926: although, do a search on ubuntuforums.org for gaim-vv, you might get some guidance there
[03:21] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: you tried hitting a key?
[03:22] <armor98926> k
[03:22] <armor98926> thanx
[03:22] <griffin_> anybody good with lexmark printer installs?
[03:22] <ShadyRevolution> yeah, nothing happens
[03:22] <joe_> i see wat u mean griffin_
[03:22] <joe_> hehehe
[03:22] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: what if you do ctrl-alt-f2?
[03:22] <JRlinux> bimberi, thanks for your help.  You have been a busy guy.
[03:22] <thewayofzen> *PROBLEM* azureus has always shown in the system tray.  i did a fresh BREEZY install today.. and have it configured to minimize to tray as well as close to tray as always.. and NO icon in tray.. ANYONE able to help?
[03:22] <^cougar^> lmao, this is not going to be easy, is it
[03:22] <ShadyRevolution> Coweatar as far as I can tell nothing changes
[03:22] <bimberi> JRlinux: yeah, lots of things i knew about during this "session" :)
[03:23] <nate1231> sethk ?
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, i thought by default azureus goes to tray on minimise ??
[03:23] <shmittubuntu> hullo
[03:23] <sethk> nate1231, sorry, I was doing something.  what did you ask?
[03:23] <nate1231> nothing
[03:23] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  me too thats the problem
[03:23] <noob_> anyone experienced with ubuntu lite?
[03:23] <nate1231> I just wanted to know if you knew a good irc guide
[03:23] <ravv> Any good site with tips and tricks for ubuntu, im looking for the neat stuff that really help but you, the kind of stuff that you can't live without once installed. (Not the guide or blog)
[03:23] <shmittubuntu> anyone know of a good dock app for breezy
[03:23] <nate1231> I want to goto a diffrent channel but dknow know how
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, i don't remember having to configure that part
[03:24] <sethk> nate1231, the freenode web page shows two good ones
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> nate1231, /join #channelname
[03:24] <noob_> ravv: check out the unofficial add-on CD
[03:24] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  thats why i dont understand whats up
[03:24] <intelikey> griffin_ joe_ it's easier than that on some boxes,  the bios setting let you select which drive to boot form,  boot from the second install win boot from the first install lin  tada
[03:24] <nate1231> ok
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, did it crashed or did it just not go to tray ...
[03:24] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  just not to tray
[03:24] <ShadyRevolution> Coweatar: I have tried rebooting the mac three times but it doesn't want to initialize the monitor after it makes the sounds like it is working.
[03:24] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  clean install of both
[03:24] <joe_> hey griffin_, i have an image of my c: drive where i use to have windows n now i have ubuntu, can i burn my c: drive image to my second HD d: and do u think it will work?
[03:24] <DjKritical> Anyone know of a ubuntu application good for personal financing?
[03:25] <TokenBad> on the wiki page...is there info on how to mount hard drives?
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, you also installed java too right ? obvious but gotta check
[03:25] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  correct
[03:25] <nate1231> wickedpuppy: but how do i get to this though? irc://irc.osx86project.org/
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, try dmesg ....
[03:25] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: so it shows nothing the whole boot process?
[03:25] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy, ok you lost me now
[03:25] <ShadyRevolution> No it show through most of it.
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> nate1231, try /server servername:port
[03:26] <nate1231> ok i will try...
[03:26] <nate1231> thanks
[03:26] <ShadyRevolution> Coweatar: it even gets to the part where it shows the Ubuntu logo, but after that it just goes black and spins the cd
[03:26] <griffin_> _joe, sorry thats way outta my leauge.  I am not sure wether your image would have the boot record and other such things needed to succesfully boot
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, oh just not to tray ... eh ah. .. hmms .. re download and try ?
[03:26] <intelikey> yep joe_  if the drives are the same size  just dd if=image of=/dev/hdb
[03:26] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  doing now
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> thewayofzen, azureus has its own channel #azureus-users
[03:26] <thewayofzen> wickedpuppy,  will go next :)
[03:26] <bimberi> armor98926: http://blog.mypapit.net/2005/09/gaim-vv-gaim-with-webcam-and-voice-support.html  (right - definitely back to work now)
[03:27] <intelikey> joe_ if they are different capicity that don't work near so well.
[03:27] <seth_slackware> hello again
[03:27] <shmittubuntu> good app dock for ubuntu?
[03:28] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: sounds like the refresh rate is off in the xorg config
[03:28] <seth_slackware> that show ubuntu has lame http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/lame
[03:28] <griffin_> is there a file where printer drivers are stored?
[03:28] <seth_slackware> apt-get install lame, shows none
[03:28] <^cougar^> I didn't know Linux was so complicated, none fo my HD's are seen, gotta find the right Linux based driver for my vid card, and all the programs I like to use like Adobe Photoshop
[03:28] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: dunno how you could fix that with the livecd
[03:28] <intelikey> joe_ what you can do with an image of a drive of another size is mount it and cp all its content to the new partition.
[03:28] <ShadyRevolution> Coweatar: me neither
[03:28] <sethk> seth_slackware, it's pissed because you called it lame
[03:28] <nuck> hey can i anyone help me out? why are there some packages missing in ubuntu 5.10 install disk?
[03:29] <seth_slackware> sethk: lol
[03:29] <brdweb> hi all, i'm having an issue with my wireless. My hardware driver is installed, wlan0 interface comes up, I get DHCP settings from the router just fine, but then I can't actually get anywhere, to include pinging the router
[03:29] <joe_> intelikey, ok, lets say i got the c: image to d: now so wat do i do next, sorry im new to linux
[03:29] <nuck> i got the official install disk distributed by ubuntu not an image i downloaded off the web
[03:29] <Coweatar> ShadyRevolution: i usually have to change the config after the auto configuration, but i guess you're kind of screwed with the livecd
[03:29] <robotgeek> brdweb: can u check you 'dmesg' output and see if your packets are being blocked?
[03:29] <sethk> nuck, no wonder it didn't work
[03:30] <intelikey> joe_ can you clearify ' lets say i got the c: image to d: ' for me ?
[03:30] <ShadyRevolution> Coweatar: oh well I'll try a live cd on my pc instead,  Thanks for your help.
[03:30] <joe_> i wanna get this working cuz abuntu looks nice n i like the idea that it updates like windows hehehe
[03:30] <nuck> sethk what do you mean? thanks
[03:30] <shmittubuntu> wut display managers will work on ubuntu, sorry n00b question
[03:30] <sethk> nuck, just teasing, nothing really  :)
[03:30] <daddius> hey what kernel does 5.10 use?
[03:30] <sethk> shmittubuntu, gdm, xdm, kdm
[03:31] <dsl_> is there anyone who could tell me how to reinstall grub when i have /boot/grub intact? :P
[03:31] <shmittubuntu> ugg i hate xdm
[03:31] <intelikey> joe_ can you clearify ' lets say i got the c: image to d: ' for me ????
[03:31] <shmittubuntu> everythings wierd and i didnt even take any time to get use to it
[03:31] <sethk> shmittubuntu, I didn't say you have to use it, I said it is supported  :)
[03:31] <shmittubuntu> yea i kno
[03:31] <nuck> sethk you bastard :-)
[03:32] <brdweb> robotgeek: it looks like it's sending packets to the DNS servers when i look at dmesg
[03:32] <buddy> --How do i turn the telnet server on on my ubuntu box?
[03:32] <joe_> intelikey, i would like to boot from ubuntu on c: drive to windows on d: drive, griffin told me to install windows on c: drive change jumpers to from master to slave then install ubuntu on master drive.......
[03:32] <brdweb> robotgeek: how do I check to see what gateway DHCP gave me?
[03:32] <^cougar^> If I was to fully install this linux operating system, will the installer see all of my drives and media?
[03:32] <nuck> elp!h
[03:32] <intelikey> yes joe_ that will work.
[03:33] <shmittubuntu> ^cougar^ yes while its installing it says detecting drives
[03:33] <nuck> intelikey do you use the 5.10 ubuntu version?
[03:33] <intelikey> joe_ no i don't use ubuntu
[03:34] <joe_> intelikey, ok, after i boot it there anything else i need to configure
[03:34] <dsl_> is there anyone who could tell me how to reinstall grub when i have /boot/grub intact? :P
[03:34] <^cougar^> ok, I hope I can save the files and folders that I want to keep as well as my previous windows applications
[03:34] <joe_> ohh ok,  wat do u use?
[03:34] <intelikey> sorry s/joe/nuck/  ^
[03:34] <LotsaCabo> My buffer already flushed my history, but thanks to whomever it was that gave me the link to grab Skype.  I'm up and running.
[03:34] <intelikey> mdk
[03:35] <blanky> hello
[03:35] <SimpleIRC> bye!
[03:35] <blanky> scare him, haha
[03:35] <intelikey> joe_ no it should all be automatic after the changing of the jumpers.
[03:35] <JRlinux> Computer has hda and hdb.  hda has WinME and Debian; I installed Ubuntu on hdb,  thinking that grub would still give me choice of the other two OS-- Nope, Debian has disappeared from the boot menu.
[03:35] <joe_> really, thats nice hehehe
[03:36] <joshuaxls> I am having a big problem trying to compile ndiswrapper 1.5 on a new Ubuntu install
[03:36] <JRlinux> Not funny, joe_
[03:36] <brdweb> robotgeek: any ideas?
[03:36] <blanky> guys k3b wont close, I've clicked close countless times
[03:36] <blanky> is there a way to force kill it
[03:36] <joe_> i rembered something that made me laugh :)
[03:37] <NoUse> blanky, open a terminal and run xkill, then click on the k3b window
[03:37] <MarcN> NoUse: or open a terminal and      killall -9 k3b
[03:37] <kbrooks> bed
[03:37] <joe_> intelikey, thaks for the help
[03:37] <blanky> thanks!
[03:38] <shmittubuntu> sethk whatabout aurora dm?
[03:38] <JRlinux> I guess it is time to re-install Debian-- and hope that Ubuntu stays.  Sheesh.
[03:38] <joshuaxls> Has anyone compiled ndiswrapper before on an Ubuntu machine?
[03:38] <Creamier_Oak> JRlinux: or just add to your /boot/grub/menu.lst the other entries...
[03:39] <intelikey> JRlinux so boot ub mount the partition that has deb on it and get the line from the debian's /boot/grub/menu.lst that contains the debian listing and add it to the ubuntu /boot/grub/menu.lst    viola you boot all three.
[03:39] <nuck> no one here using 5.10? unbelievable :-(
[03:39] <intelikey> joe_ np :)
[03:39] <NoUse> nuck, do you have a question?
[03:39] <robotgeek> brdweb: sorry was away, gimme a moment
[03:39] <JRlinux> Creamier_Oak,  intelikey , copying down those instructions...
[03:39] <nuck> yes ive just installed 5.10 over the 5.04 but some of the [ackaages like emacs are missing from the 5.10 install disk
[03:40] <joe_> take care im out to do some twicking :), c-ya
[03:40] <Creamier_Oak> nuck: sudo apt-get install emacs?
[03:40] <NoUse> nuck, just apt-get get them or use synaptic
[03:40] <nuck> yes i use synaptic i search it from synaptic under "All" but it doesnt show up
[03:41] <NoUse> nuck, emacs21 is the package name
[03:41] <nuck> Creamier_Oak NoUse then i browsed the 5.10 install cd and theres no emacs under "/pool/.../e"
[03:41] <JRlinux> menu.lst, eh?  I did make a copy of it on my flash disk before installation.  And now I just add one line to the ubuntu menu.lst?  I will surely try it, thanks!
[03:42] <robotgeek> brdweb: does it say stuff like blocked?
[03:42] <NoUse> nuck, they probably don't put emacs on the CD, use synaptic
[03:42] <n0dl> does anyone here know a good MTA?
[03:42] <dooglus> grub fans:  how can I remove the "memtest" and the "safe mode" ubuntu entries from the boot menu?
[03:42] <Creamier_Oak> dooglus: comment them out in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:42] <unixx> does anybody know how i can install mepis that was burnt as unbootable???
[03:43] <Creamier_Oak> dooglus: comment them out in /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:43] <dooglus> Creamier_Oak: with '
[03:43] <JRlinux> dooglus, I am guessing from what the experts are telling me... by commening out... yeah
[03:43] <dooglus> Creamier_Oak: with hash/pound signs?  I did that.  They came back.
[03:43] <Creamier_Oak> dooglus: your text editor of choice, you'll need to use sudo
[03:43] <NoUse> unixx, you may want to ask in #mepis
[03:43] <nuck> NoUse yes i use synaptic add the web repository in synaptic right?
[03:43] <nuck> NoUse yes i use synaptic you mean add the web repository in synaptic right?
[03:43] <unixx> NoUse ok
[03:43] <geno_> How can I change my loading screen? When I load with the new kernel, it shows the kubuntu loading screen(I have kubuntu-desktop) but I want the original Ubuntu one (or maybe the XFCE)...
[03:44] <JRlinux> unixx, I had to copy over TWICE the install disk that Ubuntu sent to me.  the second copy worked, but not the original nor the first try.
[03:44] <brdweb> robotgeek: nope, nothing blocked
[03:44] <dooglus> Creamier_Oak: I put # in front of the lines.  but the #'s have gone now that I've rebooted...  and the entries appeared in the menu
[03:44] <n0dl> Does anyone know of a good MTA that is not Sndmail>
[03:44] <n0dl> ?
[03:44] <Knowerrors> !metabar
[03:44] <JRlinux> try=copy
[03:44] <ubotu> Knowerrors: Wish i knew
[03:44] <Creamier_Oak> dooglus: stupid question, but did you save it first?
[03:44] <dooglus> Creamier_Oak: twice.
[03:44] <robotgeek> brdweb: hmm, no clue then
[03:44] <dooglus> Creamier_Oak: and rebooted twice.
[03:44] <Creamier_Oak> dooglus: post your /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin?
[03:44] <brdweb> robotgeek: thanks anyway, i'm going to try and see if disabling ipv6 does the trick
[03:45] <NoUse> nuck, emacs is in the default repos, you don't need to add any
[03:45] <NoUse> nuck, sudo apt-get install emacs21
[03:45] <jared> hi
[03:45] <dooglus> Hobbsee: after I edit it, or after I reboot?
[03:45] <dooglus> Hobbsee: 'cos it changes when I reboot
[03:46] <Hobbsee> dooglus: hmmm...it shouldnt change after you reboot, i didnt think
[03:46] <JRlinux> The first line in /boot/grub/menu.lst is the first to be listed on the boot menu?  So put my favorite OS at the top?
[03:47] <dooglus> Hobbsee: I'll reboot again and see...
[03:47] <Hobbsee> ok
[03:47] <dooglus> Hobbsee: I've made a copy of the file, so I can be sure if it changes.
[03:47] <sethk> JRlinux, yes, but you can make any one of them the default
[03:47] <Hobbsee> dooglus: good idea
[03:47] <boodle> anyone get firefox 1.5rc2 working that just went into dapper
[03:48] <sethk> JRlinux, but yes, that's how you make it appear first in the list
[03:48] <Hobbsee> boodle: yeah, was working here - sudo apt-get install firefox mozilla-firefox
[03:48] <JRlinux> sethk  ... the default?  How do you do that?
[03:48] <intelikey> JRlinux 'man grub'
[03:48] <boodle> Hobbsee, heh dindna see the moz-firefox pkg still. tyvm!
[03:49] <sethk> JRlinux, there is usually a line in the file,     default 0           or   default 1        or whatever
[03:49] <Hobbsee> boodle: tyvm?
[03:49] <sethk> JRlinux, default 0 means the first choice is the default, default 1 means the second is the default, etc.
[03:49] <boodle> thankyouverymuch
[03:49] <neoplasticity> hello
[03:49] <neoplasticity> anyone here using ubuntu ppc?
[03:49] <JRlinux> sethk, ok, and thanks!
[03:50] <JRlinux> intelikey, someday I will learn the man language.  I keep working at it, but still lousy at it.  Thanks, anyway!
[03:50] <blanky> hey guys, do I need a setting in my xorg.conf so windows dont lag, someone in #kde told me about renderaccel = true, should I set that?
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> JRlinux, its in menu.lst ... no need man
[03:50] <intelikey> JRlinux man man   ?
[03:51] <JRlinux> lol, OK.  Thanks, guys
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> the explaination for using default boot option is explained in /boot/grub/menu.lst ...
[03:51] <JRlinux> Thanks wickedpuppy
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> blah ... you should have found it out yourself ... :P
[03:52] <JRlinux> lol
[03:53] <blanky> hey guys do I need a setting in xorg.conf enabled to make my windows not lag when I drag them on top of other windows (especially things like openoffice or firefox), I have my drivers installed and they're working
[03:53] <intelikey> wickedpuppy there are no comments in my menu.lst   :)
[03:53] <Villa> nick PorcupineTree
[03:53] <PorcupineTree> hi
[03:53] <dooglus> Hobbsee: aah - I see what's happening...  it's when I run "sudo update-grub" that it undoes my changes.  I'll stop running that!  :)
[03:53] <johnp> Hello
[03:53] <PorcupineTree> does anyon here use dosbox
[03:53] <Hobbsee> dooglus: hehe....that might help, yes
[03:54] <dooglus> what do I need to do to a new install to get the security updates?
[03:54] <blanky> guys should I set '	Option	"RenderAccel"		"yes"	# hardware Render acceleration' in my xorg.conf
[03:54] <eternalist> wheres the startup script for ubuntu?
[03:54] <eternalist> i need to have a certain thing happen everytime i boot up
[03:54] <gimmulf> 2How do i make flash from linux?