[12:00] <sd> Partion manager will not edit size of partion "media/hda1" (C:/), that partition has 20gb etra space..
[12:00] <Cerveza> nazgulwalker, O(n^2)
[12:00] <qkslvrwolf> i.e, http://sfx-images.mozilla.org/affiliates/Buttons/88x31/get.gif
[12:00] <qkslvrwolf> perhaps it has another name
[12:00] <mwe> mike13: before trying what again?
[12:00] <nazgulwalker> Cerveza , thanks so much .
[12:01] <cablop> thanks a lot, now i'm surfing the directory of that ubuntu machine
[12:01] <cablop> thanks a lot
[12:01] <cablop> see you guys, have a nice time
[12:01] <sd> Partion manager will not edit size of partion "media/hda1" (C:/), that partition has 20gb extra space.. Anyone have any ideas?
[12:01] <id`> qkslvrwolf: eh, how is an image bound to an operating system...
[12:01] <nickrud> nazgulwalker, Cerveza what was that?
[12:01] <george_> helou aguna persona de Puerto Rico
[12:01] <mike13> before tryinbg again on display :0
[12:01] <edir> who is using dapper?
[12:01] <Cerveza> nazgulwalker, big O notation is always c*something with an n so you can get rid of anything next to the n
[12:01] <qkslvrwolf> ???
[12:02] <qkslvrwolf> Its just to go on my blog to show support for ubuntu.
[12:02] <Cerveza> and technically its O(n^2 + n)
[12:02] <mwe> mike13: I don't understand
[12:02] <qkslvrwolf> I'd link ubuntulinux.org
[12:02] <id`> owwww hah :P
[12:02] <Cerveza> but for a big enough n, n^2 dwarfs n
[12:02] <Cerveza> so you don't need to worry about it
[12:02] <facugaich> george_: necesitas ayuda?
[12:02] <_jason> facugaich: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12260
[12:02] <george_> sib
[12:02] <george_> un antivirus
[12:03] <sd> Partion manager will not edit size of partion "media/hda1" (C:/), that partition has 20gb extra space.. Anyone have any ideas?
[12:03] <shadow__> Hi, I have a 2pc's connected over a crosscable. i have pc1 ( My Gateway [mandriva]  : <IP_ADDRESS> ) and pc2 ( ubuntu : <IP_ADDRESS> ). I have my gateway:pc1 configured with iptables to do nat/masq, and is working well. Once i connect the cable and do "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> up;route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>" from pc2. after that i can ping pc1 and pc2 bothways. but i cannot ping google.com or its IP from pc2. Pls help ?
[12:03] <_jason> facugaich: basically in that command, you just need to escape the . because it represents the 'any character' in regex
[12:03] <qkslvrwolf> sd:  have you tried using something like system recovery cd and working with it without the os loaded in memory?
[12:03] <facugaich> _jason: that code recuses down directories?
[12:04] <mwe> but big O need not be tight
[12:04] <_jason> facugaich: ah no, for that you will need bash trickery
[12:04] <george_> e tratado de instalar el avg pero sin ningun resultado
[12:04] <facugaich> its ok
[12:04] <facugaich> I can do it with find
[12:04] <_jason> facugaich: yeah
[12:04] <sd> qkslvrwikd: I don't understand how that would help, the computer as is is uneditable to the main(C:\) partition
[12:05] <id`> There is no lighttpd, there is one for badger. Can I install it?: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/web/
[12:05] <facugaich> george_: en ubuntu?
[12:05] <echo> !xinerama
[12:05] <ubotu> xinerama is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[12:05] <george_> sib
[12:05] <george_> en ubuntu
[12:06] <naxxtor> why won't' hcitool detect my bluetooth dongle :( i don't get it - all the drivers are loaded, and it's listed in lsusb, it's just there arn't any /dev/hci* entries
[12:06] <Cerveza> when I try to ./configure gplflash it sets my system for x86-64, but when I run check install it says my system (amd64) is incompatible
[12:06] <facugaich> guys, george_ is in need of an antivirus
[12:06] <sd> for linux?
[12:06] <id`> for linux?
[12:06] <george_> for ubuntu
[12:06] <nickrud> es!
[12:06] <MYP> !es
[12:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:06] <celerex> CalamAV
[12:06] <mwe> id`: sudo apt-get install lighttpd
[12:07] <donlduck> hi
[12:07] <facugaich> oh, there you go george
[12:07] <nickrud> doh, MYP
[12:07] <donlduck> what program should i install so that i can debug my c code?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> celerex: isnt there an apt way of getting it?
[12:07] <id`> mwe: why is it not in the package manager then? Do i need to enable some repo's in some conf?
[12:07] <george_> ubotu_gracias
[12:07] <Cerveza> donlduck, gdb
[12:07] <celerex> donlduck: gdb
[12:07] <sd> okay fine, ima try and install xandros again
[12:07] <donlduck> i need to trace the error of my c which line
[12:07] <donlduck> ok Cerveza
[12:07] <donlduck> thanks
[12:07] <celerex> gnomefreak: try apt-cache search clamav
[12:07] <Cerveza> np
[12:07] <mwe> id`: it is. you need to enable !universe though
[12:07] <celerex> should show up or at least show you what packages will have it
[12:07] <LeafWiz> why can't i install vncserver from apt-get?
[12:08] <mwe> !tell id` about universe
[12:08] <gnomefreak> celerex: i know what that is and where to find it :(
[12:08] <id`> mwe: how would i do thaT? pointer to the wiki maybe?
[12:08] <id`> thanks
[12:08] <facugaich> so, there's no need for an antivirus at all in linux?
[12:08] <Cerveza> LeafWiz, why do you need vncserver? you have ssh -X
[12:08] <mjr> not really at the moment
[12:08] <mike13> mwe> i wrote you mp with error message
[12:08] <george_> facugaich__Gracias
[12:08] <nickrud> LeafWiz, probably since you don't have universe enabled, see the ubotu link below
[12:08] <nickrud> !repos
[12:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:08] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin     thats all
[12:08] <Cerveza> gnomefreak, doesn't work
[12:08] <mwe> facugaich: malware tends to not spread system wide because users are not superusers by default in linux
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: what does it say? reason not working)
[12:09] <Cerveza> ubuntu suggested recompiling from source
[12:09] <Elazar> I have the USB flash drive component of a Creative MuVo plugged into my Ubuntu 5.1 system, but it doesn't seem to be recognizing it. I'm a bit of a n00b when it comes to Ubuntu. Suggestions?
[12:09] <facugaich> george_: no hay necesidad de antivirus en ubuntu
[12:09] <Cerveza> it installs but no flash will run
[12:09] <george_> o
[12:09] <scifi> anyone know why my monitors refrsh rate was limited to 60hz with the live cd?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: did you restart FF
[12:09] <george_> gracias
[12:09] <Cerveza> yup
[12:09] <mwe> mike13: ?
[12:09] <Cerveza> rebooted even
[12:09] <nickrud> scifi, probably because your monitor didn't report it's capabilties when asked
[12:09] <facugaich> de nada jorge
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: ok than just pretty much cut and paste the source instructions
[12:09] <gnomefreak> should be fairly easy
[12:10] <Cerveza> ?
[12:10] <nickrud> scifi, try the command sudo ddcprobe
[12:10] <Cerveza> don't know what you mean by that
[12:10] <mwe> scifi: because the xorg.conf is not tuned for you card, probably
[12:10] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: on the flash page there are instructions for compiling the source
[12:10] <Cerveza> yes
[12:10] <george_> bay
[12:10] <Cerveza> they failed
[12:10] <cablop> hello people, me again, i have a simple question
[12:10] <id`> mwe: I get the duh award :P
[12:10] <Cerveza> checkinstall says it won't install a x86-64.deb
[12:10] <Cerveza> because i'm amd64
[12:11] <nickrud> id`, I OWN that award, but I'll share :)
[12:11] <id`> nickrud: ;o
[12:11] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: than i would use make install
[12:11] <qkslvrwolf> ok, ya'll, a firefox booster button is available here: http://qkslvrwolf.com/wp-content/themes/andreas04/images/firefox-button.png
[12:11] <scifi> nickrud/mwe: so it wud be easy to resolve if i did indeed install ubuntu
[12:11] <mwe> scifi: probably
[12:11] <nickrud> scifi, yes, there's a lot of tools to fix theat
[12:11] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: as long as you have checkinstall installed it should work for that
[12:11] <Cerveza> its the .configure file
[12:12] <Cerveza> it detected my system as x86-64
[12:12] <cablop> ok, does anybody how to save the commandline output of an application? in DOS i use "application > file.log"  to do that in bash what i need?
[12:12] <qkslvrwolf> *make that ubuntu booster button
[12:12] <qkslvrwolf> whoops
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: thats what it is isnt it?
[12:12] <nickrud> !tell scifi about fixres
[12:12] <Cerveza> its amd64
[12:12] <mwe> cablop: you can do it like that. it want save errors though
[12:12] <facugaich> cablop: I think its the same
[12:12] <Cerveza> apparently there is some sortof difference in the eyes of checkinstall
[12:12] <naxxtor> cablop, the same works in bash
[12:12] <digen> _jason, u there
[12:12] <Elazar> I have the USB flash drive component of a Creative MuVo plugged into my Ubuntu 5.1 system, but it doesn't seem to be recognizing it. I'm a bit of a n00b when it comes to Ubuntu. Suggestions?
[12:12] <nickrud> scifi, that link in the pm from ubotu has details
[12:12] <scifi> nickrud:it also didnt detect my origo asr-8000 modem router...but obivously i need to install some linux drivers for that?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: are you on breezy or dapper?
[12:12] <Cerveza> although I thought x86-64 was amd64
[12:12] <mwe> cablop: you'd need foobar > file.log 2>&1
[12:12] <scifi> ty
[12:12] <gimmulf_> !skype
[12:12] <Cerveza> breezy
[12:12] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[12:13] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[12:13] <nickrud> scifi, I don't know that router, so I won't venture a guess
[12:13] <mzuverink> can someone point me to a link that give instructions in how to upgrade breezy to dapper
[12:13] <digen> installation finished, it gives a new error now
[12:13] <digen> checking for DBUS... configure: error: Package requirements (dbus-glib-1 >= 0.60) were not met:
[12:13] <digen> Requested 'dbus-glib-1 >= 0.60' but version of dbus-glib is 0.36.2
[12:13] <gnomefreak> digen: please dont paste in here use pastebin
[12:13] <digen> gnomefreak, k i'm sorry
[12:13] <cablop> mwe, in this line "foobar > file.log 2>&1" why we use two times the symbol ">"?
[12:14] <nickrud> scifi, can you use your browser to access your router?
[12:14] <mike13> mwe: i wrote the message in a separate window
[12:14] <scifi> erm i didnt try it....but possibly
[12:14] <Cerveza> make install didn't work at all
[12:14] <mwe> cablop: the firs redirects stdout. the second directs stderr to stdout
[12:15] <scifi> wud "sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange" command work even for the live cd?
[12:15] <cablop> woa! thanks
[12:15] <mwe> cablop: hence all is directed to the file
[12:15] <mwe> mike13: I didn't get it. you need to be registered at freenode to /msg people on the network
[12:16] <naxxtor> what could possibly be wrong - i don't get this at all ... everything points to the device being correctly loaded, but for some reason it isn't!
[12:16] <gimmulf_> !bluetooth
[12:16] <ubotu> [bluetooth]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[12:16] <facugaich> _jason: this will do? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12261
[12:16] <gnomefreak> Cerveza: are you sure you have everything needed to compile it?
[12:16] <Cerveza> Well I had everything via apt-get
[12:16] <scifi> !origo
[12:16] <ubotu> scifi: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:16] <Cerveza> and the only thing I removed was the flash
[12:16] <Elazar> Anybody?
[12:17] <Cerveza> so I should have all the dependencies
[12:17] <nickrud> scifi, possibly, but the live cd is really only an example, not a true version of ubuntu.
[12:18] <scifi> yeh, i understand.....maybe i shud just go ahead and partition instead of messing about :p
[12:18] <id`> '$ sudo ls -AlF ~/share/audio' reveals that the directory is owned by tom. I did a 'chown -R ~/share tom' before that. I cant access the directory with my user. Why? :P
[12:18] <nickrud> scifi, quit messing around, get on the stick :)
[12:18] <naxxtor> AHA.  dmesg shows this: "bcm203x: probe of 2-1:1.0 failed with error -5
[12:18] <naxxtor> " when i insert the dongle
[12:19] <donlduck> how do i know mysql server is installed?
[12:19] <scifi> on the stick? sorry dont know all the linux jingo yet :)
[12:19] <Cerveza> just partition and install
[12:19] <mwe> id`: wrong syntax
[12:19] <nickrud> donlduck, dpkg -l mysql-server
[12:19] <scifi> hehe
[12:20] <id`> mwe: meh :|
[12:20] <nickrud> scifi, gimme a break :)
[12:20] <mwe> id`: it's chown -R tom ~/share
[12:20] <gnomefreak> donlduck: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[12:20] <scifi> sorry
[12:20] <id`> <--- boke
[12:20] <manicka> morning all :)
[12:21] <manicka> does anyone know where evolution 2.6 stores its account information? It's not in /.gconf/apps/evolution/mail/accounts like it used to be
[12:21] <nickrud> scifi, it's a figure of speach, and means get cracking (lol)
[12:21] <donlduck> un  mysql-server          <none>                (no description available)
[12:21] <donlduck> i got this one
[12:21] <nickrud> donlduck, then not installed
[12:21] <scifi> ive also read about easyubuntu, which looks like it solves alot of multimedia codec issues in one swoop, wud u recommend using that once i have ubuntu sorted?
[12:21] <siimo> hi anyone expert with gnome menus? i have eclipse installed in /opt and if i run /opt/eclipse/eclipse as both user or root then it runs fine but a gnome menu with same exec command says i dont have java in my path... but i do ... if i try using a bash shell
[12:21] <nickrud> donlduck, the u means desired status is uninstalled, n means current status is not installed
[12:22] <donlduck> ok
[12:22] <donlduck> doing sudo apt-get -y install mysql-server
[12:22] <donlduck> am i right?
[12:22] <nickrud> donlduck, yup
[12:22] <donlduck> btw any other c debugging program besides gdb?
[12:23] <nickrud> donlduck, but, please don't use -y , there may be questions you may want to answer
[12:23] <mike23> mwe: sorry i've been disconnected
[12:23] <gimmulf_> !bluetooth
[12:23] <ubotu> somebody said bluetooth was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[12:23] <mebaran151> hey
[12:23] <mebaran151> why isn't rubygems included by default
[12:23] <donlduck> ok
[12:23] <mwe> donlduck: ddd is a pretty nice front end
[12:23] <mebaran151> the rails setup with Ubuntu is seriously borked
[12:23] <scifi> when i partition with ubuntu, will i still be able to access the 1st partition in windows?
[12:23] <mwe> donlduck: gdb rocks but has a steap learning curve
[12:24] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe: I just tried out the parallel port on my home machine using Kubuntu Dapper Flight 6 LiveCD
[12:24] <Marineboy> scifi, Yes, It gave me the option to add another partition
[12:24] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: yes
[12:24] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  I have the BIOS configured properly
[12:24] <MrKubuntuUser> I modprobed lp, parport, and parport_pc in that order
[12:24] <donlduck> ill install ddd then
[12:24] <scifi> marineboy:k ty
[12:24] <Marineboy> scifi: yw :)
[12:24] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe: and no DMA
[12:25] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: odd
[12:25] <scifi> 250gig drive, so think take a 100gig chunk for the linux partition
[12:25] <coz> where is evolutions account information stored?
[12:25] <phoul> Anyone get amarok 1.4 on ubuntu by chance?
[12:25] <mike23> mwe : ?
[12:25] <nickrud> coz, evolution keeps the account info in gconf
[12:25] <mwe> scifi: that'd plenty and then a lot
[12:26] <phoul> Im wondering if anyone knows where i could find a deb or what ever
[12:26] <coz> nickrud, Ok do you knwo ecact location another guynees this information
[12:26] <phoul> anyone?
[12:26] <nickrud> coz, gconf-editor is the command, and /apps/evolution/mail is the key location
[12:26] <Marineboy> lol mwe, Now I gotta wait for the site to send me the disks.
[12:27] <coz> nickrud, ok thanks
[12:27] <Marineboy> I thought my writer wrote all the files, i went to sleep while it installed to find out that it deleted my windows partition and then was a corrupt installation file.
[12:27] <Marineboy> So now I have to boot my PC off the live version.
[12:28] <scifi> ouch marine
[12:28] <phoul> !amarok
[12:28] <ubotu> amarok is, like, a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[12:28] <nickrud> Marineboy, bummer
[12:28] <scifi> ur scaring me now :P
[12:28] <Marineboy> I know right!
[12:28] <Marineboy> Scifi.
[12:28] <Althulas> i got a serius problem. how can i convince someone to use ubuntu amd64 version if they say they absolutely need M$ money
[12:28] <coz> nickrud, apparently not there the other guy has looked as well
[12:28] <Althulas> any equivelent ?
[12:28] <coz> i will keep looking
[12:28] <naxxtor> right, check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24876 <-- that is the exact problem, only i'm under breezy not hoary - and that package isn't available for hoary - what should I do?
[12:28] <Marineboy> You'll be fine, Just make sure your burner burns the entire .iso.
[12:28] <nickrud> coz, I'm looking at it as we speak
[12:28] <Althulas> or wine ?
[12:28] <Althulas> ive never used wine
[12:29] <Althulas> however
[12:29] <scifi> ive read that hi-def video will run slightly smoother on a linux system than windows...thats one of a few reasons why i'd like to try it
[12:29] <Marineboy> ill bb, let me call a friend and see if i can go to her house and burn it.
[12:30] <cablop> ummm
[12:30] <cablop> i have next qestion: i have a .sh file with this line inside but ubuntu reports me an error when using it "CLASSPATH=/opt/grinder/lib/grinder.jar
[12:30] <cablop> export CLASSPATH"
[12:30] <nickrud> Althulas, take a look at http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search?name=money&company=&medal=&date_start%5B1%5D=1&date_start%5B2%5D=1&date_start%5B0%5D=2000&date_start%5B3%5D=0&date_start%5B4%5D=00&date_end%5B1%5D=4&date_end%5B2%5D=14&date_end%5B0%5D=2006&date_end%5B3%5D=17&date_end%5B4%5D=30&search=app , if one of those is right, he can run crossover office
[12:31] <cablop> ubuntu sdaid me "not a valid identifier: export: `CLASSPATH"
[12:31] <cablop> what is the problem?
[12:31] <Althulas> thanks nick
[12:31] <Althulas> nickrud:
[12:31] <kbrooks> cablop: you have to split into 2 lines
[12:31] <Althulas> what is crossover office exactly ?
[12:32] <baquero22> i have a big problem.. trying to share my folders with my winxp laptop but nothing happends when i right-clic and shared the folders
[12:32] <ardchoille> http://www.gnomehelp.org/ardchoille/temp/variety_ubuntu_splash.png
[12:32] <nickrud> Althulas, point him at the 386 version, don't saddle him with the 64 bit version
[12:32] <ardchoille> http://www.gnomehelp.org/ardchoille/temp/variety_ubuntu_background.png
[12:32] <ardchoille> :)
[12:32] <baquero22> as well i tried to go to system and folder sharing but that application always freeze
[12:32] <nickrud> Althulas, it's a customized version of wine
[12:32] <Marineboy> ill be back soon because I'm going to download it again
[12:32] <baquero22> i can open it as root or as anyuser and its freeze
[12:32] <mwe> Althulas: modified wine aimed at windows office
[12:32] <Althulas> ah
[12:32] <Althulas> nice nice
[12:32] <mike_> I love ubuntu.
[12:32] <cablop> kbrooks, how to split ythem, only enter?
[12:33] <cablop> they're yet splitted
[12:34] <id`> When I press my media buttons on my laptop keyboard gnome gives me a nice volume display. It uses Master. I want it to use PCM. What is it/where can i find or config it?
[12:34] <naxxtor> uhm - how do you get the kernel version?
[12:34] <twidget> I'm unable to format my /home 155.5GB partition as FAT32. Would someone help me figure out why?
[12:34] <crimsun> naxxtor: uname -r
[12:34] <naxxtor> crimsun, cheers
[12:34] <baquero22> hey no idea about why my system ---> shared foldres.   get freeze each time i open it???
[12:34] <nickrud> twidget, home needs to be a linux partition, not fat32
[12:34] <cablop> if i use that lines directly i can run it, but not from inside the .sh file
[12:35] <cablop> how to say in a .sh file there's an end of line?
[12:35] <shray__> hi how may I switch to a faster mirror in ubuntu.. the current one its using is only going 100KB/s down
[12:35] <twidget> I was told I could format it as FAT32 and have it be seen both my Windows XP and Ubuntu (for my documents)
[12:35] <echo> can someone help me edit my xorg.conf file... i dont wanna be all screwin it up again
[12:35] <echo> tryin to do dual video on the same card
[12:35] <twidget> I was told wrong?
[12:36] <echo> twin view
[12:36] <zig_> Is XULrunner out as far as dapper drake is concerned, we are still sticking with the bloody firefox dependency
[12:36] <baquero22> soo anyone shared folders here???
[12:36] <nickrud> twidget, ignore that advice, maybe set up a 10-20gb fat32 that both ubuntu & windows can see, but home must be a linux type partition
[12:36] <baquero22> i just installed samba
[12:36] <baquero22> and i can see my ubuntu from the laptop running xp
[12:36] <scifi> shray: lol whats wrong with 100k?  FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[12:39] <twidget> I'm mean, I don't mean to sound rude or anything, it's just that I'd prefer to have the bulk of my free space available to both OSs.
[12:39] <baquero22> sooo its easy men
[12:39] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  I just tried booting the LiveCD with the extra option parport=0x378,7,3 but I still didn't have DMA after I modprobe'd lp
[12:39] <baquero22> three partitions
[12:39] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  any ideas?
[12:39] <twidget> I mean instead of I'm mean
[12:39] <mwe> id`: maybe it's only in dapper then.
[12:39] <ardchoille> Check out some of the themes I made:  http://www.gnomehelp.org/ardchoille/themes
[12:39] <baquero22> one ext3 another fat32 and anotherone ntfs
[12:39] <id`> mwe: ok
[12:39] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: not really
[12:39] <baquero22> like that ur gonna be able to play
[12:39] <nickrud> twidget, then, say 10GB for / on ubuntu, 40 GB for /home, and the rest as a fat32? or something along those lines
[12:39] <Veronica> Quick question.. got a siguation.. got a siguation.. got a siguation.. got a siguation.. got a siguation where a way to have a directory?
[12:40] <baquero22> hey nickrud your complicated
[12:40] <twidget> that sounds good
[12:40] <slimz> does anyone know if there is any real benefit to building your programs from source in apt versus just installing them? other than the fact that the source migth be out before the build?
[12:40] <baquero22> split the disk in three parts... or in two...  ext3 and anotherone fat32
[12:40] <twidget> what should the fat32 point to?
[12:40] <id`> mwe: ill go get badger then
[12:40] <nickrud> baquero22, I've gone thru so many iterations of this exact question .... currently I run a 10gb fat32
[12:40] <twidget> or does that matter?
[12:40] <baquero22> or a third one on ntfs if u want to protect ur winxp from any ubuntu idiot move u make
[12:41] <echo> anyone got a wiki on 2 monitors on 1 video card?
[12:41] <delliott> Good evening all.
[12:41] <echo> hey
[12:41] <simosx> slimz, you would build from source for educational purposes, to learn the process. Other than that, get the package.
[12:41] <id`> mwe: i mean dapper
[12:41] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:41] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:41] <slimz> simosx : well if apt will be doing the building for me, then im really not learning, i thought it *maybe* would be better configured for my system, thanks
[12:42] <scifi> looking at screenshots of the partitioning wizard when u setup ubuntu, i can only see 2 erase options and an edit partiton table option, so how do u create a NEW partition on the same drive without erasing anything?
[12:42] <ordi> hi
[12:42] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  Do you know of any other settings that would affect the parallel port?
[12:42] <nickrud> baquero22, always recommend a /home partition, they'll thank you in the morning
[12:42] <nickrud> scifi, if there is no room for a new partition, you'll have to delete an existing one
[12:42] <twidget> nickrud, does it matter what that fat32 partition points to?
[12:43] <twidget> (Sorry if these come across as newbie questions, but I am, after all, a newbie.)
[12:43] <scifi> there will be plenty of room nickrud
[12:43] <simosx> slimz, apt has prebuild and pre-configured packages for your system. No need for compilation, so they install fast. Long time ago I did compilations and it was good experience. Now, it's only for special cases (unavailable package, etc).
[12:43] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  Also, do I need to have something plugged into the parallel port during boot-up for DMA to be enabled?
[12:43] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: no. I suspect a bug but I don't know where. doesn't dmesg say anything useful?
[12:43] <nickrud> twidget, not really. I currently have it mounted as /home/fat, but I've used other mount points.
[12:44] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  [4294977.771000]  parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
[12:44] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  [4294977.853000]  lp0: using parport0 (polling).
[12:45] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: that's good. nothing about dma?
[12:45] <skpl> can someone tell me what this error means? Closing Link: <IP_ADDRESS> (You match the pattern of a known trojan, please check your system with a cleaner from http://www.moosoft.com or Swat-It from http://www.lockdowncorp.com/bots/downloadswatit.html)
[12:45] <cablop> excuse me i was away so i don't know if somebody answered me
[12:45] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  Not for the parallel port.
[12:45] <mwe> skpl: where did you get that?
[12:45] <scifi> actually i cud just create a new partition myself with the western-digital tool, then install ubuntu on it?
[12:46] <skpl> mwe: trying to connect to dalnet
[12:46] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, my equiv from dmseg is [4294696.473000]  parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP]
[12:46] <cablop> ok, my question is, i need to edit a .sh file, but i don't know how, i need to place three instructions each one in each line
[12:46] <gimmulf> command to scan connected bluetoth devices?
[12:46] <mwe> MrKubuntuUser: how did you find out dma is disabled?
[12:46] <cablop> i need to place a character at the end of each line?
[12:47] <mwe> skpl: it probably means a) you have the trojan or b) dalnet is broken
[12:47] <skpl> mwe: i did not know lthere were torojans made for linux
[12:47] <MrKubuntuUser> mwe:  hardinfo.  Also, DMA is supposed to be listed in the system log for parport0.  Also also there was some file (can't remember what now) that had to do with parport0 that said -1
[12:48] <Althulas> anyone know if there is an official lightscribe cover for ubuntu cd's ?
[12:48] <mwe> skpl: they are rare. I'd guess b)
[12:48] <cablop> the three lines are:
[12:48] <cablop> "CLASSPATH=/opt/grinder/lib/grinder.jar
[12:48] <cablop> export CLASSPATH
[12:48] <cablop> java net.grinder.TCPSniffer"
[12:48] <cablop> but if i place them in that way systems report me error abour using export as a parameter of last line, but uding them directly on bashcommandline, they worked
[12:48] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  EPP?  Hmm... maybe I should try setting my parallel port to EPP
[12:48] <skpl> mwe: could it have something to do with my identd?
[12:48] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  and you have DMA enabled?
[12:48] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, according to hardinfo, yes
[12:48] <mwe> skpl: I think not. if so dalnet is really broken, complaining about trojans
[12:48] <cablop> ubotu tell me about editing .sh files
[12:48] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  I haven't tried EPP yet... maybe that was my entire problem.  :D
[12:49] <cablop> ubotu tell me about sh
[12:49] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud, mwe:  I'll be back later
[12:49] <Veronica> hi
[12:50] <mwe> cablop: /msg the bot please
[12:50] <cablop> hjelp me
[12:51] <skpl> what is ipp?
[12:51] <mwe> cablop: nano foobar.sh
[12:51] <nickrud> skpl, internet printing protocol
[12:51] <mwe> skpl: internet printing protocol IIRC
[12:51] <cablop> um?
[12:51] <brian__> can someone help me get ssh going? i have got openssh-server isntalled and know how to forward ports
[12:51] <gimmulf> command to scan connected bluetoth devices?
[12:51] <brian__> but
[12:52] <odat> how do i kill a process?
[12:52] <naxxtor> hcitool scan ?
[12:52] <Seantater> cablp: what do you want?
[12:52] <brian__> when i connect to ssh
[12:52] <mwe> odat: kill pid
[12:52] <Seantater> odat: use killall in a terminal
[12:52] <nickrud> odat, killall <process name>
[12:52] <Seantater> odat: format killay name_of_process
[12:52] <naxxtor> gimmulf, hcitool scan? or maybe hcitool dev?
[12:52] <cablop> i want to make a batch file like .bat or .cmd on dos but in my ubuntu
[12:52] <maerlin> hi
[12:52] <spajus> can ubuntu handle TV card hadrware?
[12:52] <brian__> ssh <username>@<ip> it just sets there. and does nothing
[12:52] <brian__> not even a new line
[12:52] <Seantater> odat: not killay, killall
[12:52] <cablop> i need to place three comand line instructions on it
[12:52] <brian__> i double checked everything
[12:52] <brian__> can someone help me?
[12:52] <mwe> odat: you need sudo for processes not owned by you
[12:52] <cablop> but command line reported me erros when doing
[12:53] <Seantater> cablop: that's a shell script here
[12:53] <cablop> if i suse the three comandline options by themselves they worked, but inside the .sh don't
[12:53] <Seantater> cablop: Paste them into a file
[12:53] <skpl> can someone tell me why my music skips when i play it in banshee but not in rhythymbox?
[12:53] <gimmulf> !bluetooth
[12:53] <ubotu> methinks bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[12:53] <Seantater> cablop: then prepend them with #! /bin/bash
[12:53] <jorge_> Necesito ayuda para instalar programas
[12:53] <brian__> can someone help me with ssh?
[12:54] <MystaMax> !proftpd
[12:54] <ubotu> MystaMax: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:54] <Seantater> cablop: then save it, and make it executable
[12:54] <nickrud> !info proftpd
[12:54] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB
[12:54] <maerlin> couldnt find it in the wiki: how much harddisk does 5.10-default-installation need?
[12:54] <jorge_> Necesito ayda en espaol
[12:54] <cablop> ok i pasted them into  a file
[12:54] <MystaMax> nice, thanks nick
[12:54] <cablop> Seantater, what is prepend?
[12:54] <maerlin> mi harddisk has only 1,2 GB. i am not sure, if that is enough.
[12:54] <nickrud> maerlin, 1.8gb for a minimal install, you'll want about 5gb to play around in
[12:55] <brian__> ...
[12:55] <maerlin> nickrud: thank you a lot
[12:55] <tuyan> hi all, i have a headless pc here and i want to do a headless installation since i do not have any monitors.. can anyone guide me ?
[12:55] <cablop> ok i have the lines
[12:55] <cablop> "CLASSPATH=/opt/grinder/lib/grinder.jar
[12:55] <cablop> export CLASSPATH
[12:55] <cablop> java net.grinder.TCPSniffer" how to prepend them?
[12:55] <method|> anybody here have any experience with kdevelop?
[12:55] <Seantater> cablop: When you set the shell lines into the file, simply make an empty line at the top and sat #!/bin/bash in the empty line
[12:55] <skpl> can someone tell me why my music skips when i play it in banshee but not in rhythymbox?
[12:55] <naxxtor> skpl, because banshee is using a different decoder?
[12:56] <cablop> ok,  i'll try
[12:56] <skpl> naxxtor, how can i change the decoder it uses?
[12:56] <MystaMax> I'm looking to install Proftpd, and would like to provide mysql support later. Am I choosing just the regular proftpd or proftpd-mysql??
[12:56] <naxxtor> skpl, no idea - just an idea
[12:56] <Seantater> ubotu tell jorge_ about es
[12:57] <tag> how much effort is it to set up a vpn?
[12:57] <jerware> tag: it may be a bit time consuming.
[12:57] <eth0_no0b> can anyone help me with ssh?
[12:58] <tag> because I can tunnel into work overssh
[12:58] <mwe> eth0_no0b: elaborate
[12:58] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: what do you want help with concerning it
[12:58] <tag> but it's starting to become a hassle
[12:58] <skpl> can someone tell me how to change my decoder in banshee?
[12:58] <eth0_no0b> well
[12:58] <signature16> why does my proftpd say unable to determine ip address of server1.pacificx.net when i try to start it?
[12:58] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: keep talking
[12:58] <eth0_no0b> i have it all setup i apt-get openssh-server, i know how to forward ports on meh router
[12:58] <eth0_no0b> i forwared 22
[12:58] <jorge_> Aqu Jorge pidiendo ayuda para instalar el juego tibia en linux
[12:59] <eth0_no0b> and i
[12:59] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: open your web browser to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:59] <maerlin> good night
[12:59] <nickrud> !es
[12:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:59] <eth0_no0b> its 0.1
[12:59] <cablop> Seantater, it doesn't work :(
[12:59] <eth0_no0b> but ok
[12:59] <eth0_no0b> im in meh ro0uter
[12:59] <Seantater> cablop: pastebin me what you did
[12:59] <cablop> how to pastebin?
[12:59] <eth0_no0b> Seantater
[12:59] <nickrud> !pastebin
[12:59] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:00] <eth0_no0b> anyways
[01:00] <naxxtor> i don't understand - why do i have this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24876 when i'm using breezy? it doesn't make sense!
[01:00] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: there should be a forewarding section
[01:00] <eth0_no0b> i have everything needed for ssh server and stuff. ok. on the same computer, i "ssh <username>@<ip>" and it just sets there
[01:01] <eth0_no0b> Seantater, its virtual server
[01:01] <Jonte--> Hi, I'm having trouble with a wireless mouse in breezy, as it starts the mouse locks and moves up to the corner and can't be moved. It works fins when ubuntu is installed at first but after a few reboots this behavoir occurs.
[01:01] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: I use ssh-server too..
[01:01] <eth0_no0b> i already forwared port 22 to my assigned router ip.
[01:01] <skpl> can someone tell me how to change my decoder in banshee?
[01:01] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: Do you have firestarter or anything on
[01:01] <eth0_no0b> no
[01:01] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: it should ask for for a password
[01:01] <eth0_no0b> it doesnt ask for a pass
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> but just for troubleshooting purposes
[01:02] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: Check in /etc/ssh
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> Seantater i have been in etc ssh
[01:02] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: There may be setting prohibiting your access
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> i
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> um
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> how would i check/change that?
[01:02] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: I know little past that
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> under ssh_config
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> ?
[01:02] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: It works for me all the time
[01:02] <eth0_no0b> idk anything about hostkeys or anything
[01:02] <rOss^64> anyone using newest LIVECD have programs on step4 of installing to HDD from liveCD ?
[01:03] <rOss^64> programs = problems
[01:03] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: Hostkeays are pre-installed when openssh is installed
[01:03] <eth0_no0b> eh ok
[01:03] <nickrud> rOss^64, you should ask on #ubuntu+1 , that's the dapper channel
[01:03] <rOss^64> thanks
[01:03] <eth0_no0b> well this works "ssh <username>@<assigned router ip>"
[01:03] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: I'm stumped
[01:03] <eth0_no0b> idk why
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> i hate my router
[01:04] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: what does it say?
[01:04] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: It does not work here, AFAIK
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> asks for pass when i use router ip
[01:04] <naxxtor> i hate my usb bluetooth dongle thing :@
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> ?
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> AFAIK
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> ?
[01:04] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: try it
[01:04] <Seantater> eth0_no0b: what happens
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> huh?
[01:04] <skpl> can someone tell me how to change my decoder in banshee?
[01:04] <eth0_no0b> try what? what is AFAIK?
[01:05] <Seantater> AFAIK is As Far As I Know
[01:05] <Seantater> !AFAIK
[01:05] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seantater
[01:05] <Seantater> ubotu: afaik is As Far As I Know
[01:05] <ubotu> okay, Seantater
[01:06] <eth0_no0b> i can ssh to my computer through router ip, but i cant through regular ip.
[01:06] <gimmulf> I have done the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSkype guide now and i can find my bluetoooth headset and everything in konquer but i cant listen to any music in the headset and when i try thru xmms it just says that i should check that my soundcard is configured properly
[01:06] <eth0_no0b> souds like my router sucks
[01:07] <signature16> why does my proftpd say unable to determine ip address of server1.pacificx.net when i try to start it?
[01:07] <slimz> hi guys, i have a 5.1 channel audio setup with a soundblaster live, with 6 analog outputs to a reciever. whenever i play an audio of video file, and i raise or lower the master volume, it only lowers the volume of the front 2 channels, is there any way i can link the master volume to the center/sub/rear channels?
[01:08] <naxxtor> i have a bcm2035 bluetooth dongle and it won't load properly! and nobody has any idea what to do about it
[01:08] <MrKubuntuUser> If I want to manually load lp0 on a LiveCD, what's the propper way to do it?      VIRT  RES  SHR
[01:11] <cablop> ok, anybody could helpme about shis problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12263
[01:11] <mikebot> how can i get .wmv's to work>?
[01:11] <simosx> jadaz87, if you don't get a better answer, you can google for "ubuntu compile kernel" (without the quotes).
[01:11] <jadaz87> !restrictedformats
[01:11] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:11] <nickrud> jadaz87, don't. if you really want to, install kernel-package, and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package
[01:12] <pr0-t31n> anybody here listening to my problem?
[01:13] <MojoWork> how do i get the default terminal to use fixed as the font?
[01:13] <pr0-t31n> google
[01:13] <mikebot> "WMV files encoded with DRM (Digital Rights Management) are not playable by the codecs"
[01:13] <mikebot> does that mean i can't play the,m?
[01:13] <echo> can anyonehelp me with twinview on a geforce 5200
[01:13] <MojoWork> gnome doesn't want to see the console fonts
[01:13] <echo> thanks
[01:13] <nickrud> mikebot, yes, some of them.
[01:13] <pr0-t31n> wmv stands for windows media video
[01:13] <pr0-t31n> i think
[01:13] <echo> ypur right
[01:13] <cablop> semms to be people is dead here
[01:13] <echo> your
[01:14] <jadaz87> nickrud do you know how to do this? Please either recompile your
[01:14] <jadaz87> kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.plwith CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[01:14] <simosx> MojoWork, gnome-terminal has an option to use the system Monospace font, or you can specify your own fixed-width font.
[01:14] <jadaz87> the CC environment variable?
[01:14] <Jonte--> Monospace is the best ever
[01:14] <MojoWork> simosx: yeah but "fixed" doesn't show up in the fonts
[01:14] <jmoncayo> i have a question, i thought aterm -tr -sh 60 wasnt working but i just realize it is darking the deafaul bg but not the one i have just changed
[01:14] <cablop> there's a mnual about editing .sh files?
[01:14] <simosx> jadaz87, for building the kernel, a common command is "apt-get install build-essential", so that it picks up all the compiler tools in one go.
[01:15] <siimo> nickrud, i thought you could ignore the warning and go ahead with install ?  or download older gcc like jadaz87 says
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> this will play
[01:15] <nickrud> jadaz87, yes, exactly the CC ev variable.   Try     export CC='gcc-3.4'  before your vmware module compile. You may need to do sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 first
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> THIS WILL PLAY WMV AND WMA FILESS
[01:15] <scifi> will we be able to upgrade to dapper drake from breezy badger?
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> http://xinehq.de/index.php/homehttp://xinehq.de/index.php/home
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> http://xinehq.de/index.php/home
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> http://xinehq.de/index.php/home
[01:15] <simosx> MojoWork, I see. Is there a specific need to have font "fixed" in gnome-terminal
[01:15] <bill> jada trying to get nvidia working?
[01:15] <cablop> scifi, i think sure
[01:15] <tin_nqn> hello people
[01:15] <mikebot> but oi want to play wmv files in totem
[01:15] <MojoWork> yes, monospace sucks
[01:15] <pr0-t31n> oic
[01:15] <tin_nqn> I have a question about ftp command...
[01:15] <Apostle^> scifi: yes
[01:15] <siimo> monospace is C00L
[01:16] <simosx> nickrud, it's better to get the compiler with "apt-get install build-essential" (build-essential is a virtual package).
[01:16] <jadaz87> nickrud do :       export CC='gcc-3.4'
[01:16] <jadaz87> simosx that does not install 3.4
[01:16] <polpak> mikebot, most wmv files work fine. Just ones with DRM won't work
[01:16] <nickrud> jadaz87, I though you were talking about a complete kernel compile when I advised against.
[01:16] <scifi> kewl
[01:16] <mikebot> polpak, is there no way to make those ones work?
[01:16] <pr0-t31n> MIKE HERE
[01:16] <pr0-t31n> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23454.html
[01:16] <simosx> MojoWork, "Monospace" is a virtual font. See /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, to see from which fonts it takes characters.
[01:16] <bill> where does /lib/modules/2.6.*/volatile come from?
[01:16] <nickrud> simosx, build essential gets you gcc-4.0, jadaz87 needs to install gcc-3.4 explicitly
[01:16] <jadaz87> nickrud oh ok haha no i whould not want to do that
[01:16] <jadaz87> nickrud i did
[01:17] <facugaich> tin_nqn, just ask
[01:17] <tin_nqn> how can I "force" mget (ftp command) to it don't ask me to confirm in each file?
[01:17] <simosx> nickrud, ahh, ok. thanks.
[01:17] <vega-_> i'm trying to apt-get -u dist-upgrade breezy -> dapper but the problem is i'm running out of disk space (E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/). Anyone know if it's safe to link /var/cache/apt/archives somewhere else?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> pr0-t31n: can you please not use caps
[01:17] <mikebot> pr0-t31n, thanks
[01:17] <pr0-t31n> sure
[01:17] <jadaz87> nickrud so do:               export CC='gcc-3.4'             before i running the vmware config?
[01:17] <pr0-t31n> and sure
[01:17] <nickrud> jadaz87, yes
[01:17] <polpak> pr0-t31n, that link won't help with DRM
[01:17] <jadaz87> ok
[01:17] <simosx> MojoWork, do you want to type English or another language in gnome-terminal? What's the problem with Monospace? (screenshot?).
[01:18] <pr0-t31n> i win an internet.
[01:18] <simosx> vega-_, yep, you can even link to your VFAT partition.
[01:18] <facugaich> tin_nqn, you mean 'wget'? or is 'mget' a command in an ftp client?
[01:18] <siimo> why doesnt ubuntu compile kernel with the GCC they default with
[01:18] <siimo> @#$%
[01:18] <pr0-t31n> u guys, linux is too complicated
[01:18] <pr0-t31n> but windows suck
[01:18] <pr0-t31n> s
[01:18] <jadaz87> nickrud are the kernel headers included in build-essentials?
[01:18] <Apostle^> no i isn't.
[01:18] <tin_nqn> mget in an ftp client
[01:18] <jadaz87> siimo THAT is what i want to know
[01:18] <Apostle^> jadaz87: no
[01:19] <nickrud> jadaz87, no, to get those, do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:19] <vega-_> simosx: don't own a vfat partition.. but oh well, i guess it's worth a shot
[01:19] <siimo> oh well i always build my own kernel with the ck patchset with default GCC so no problems for me
[01:19] <cablop> help me
[01:19] <pr0-t31n> is ftp the same thing as i know it? a site u upload to and pple can download from
[01:19] <cablop> please
[01:19] <facugaich> ftp is a protocol
[01:19] <facugaich> like http
[01:19] <simosx> vega-_, wherever you have space you can link to. External USB harddisk, etc...
[01:20] <jadaz87> nickrud oh ok i will do that now
[01:20] <tin_nqn> yeah I know
[01:20] <cablop> i'll make the question as easyu as i can: i need to place two lines on a .sh file, i don't know how to do them, just copying them and pressing enter between them?
[01:20] <nickrud> simosx, you have no problems with the gcc-4.0 compiling the kernel (I don't know why I'm asking, I stopped compiling kernels a couple of years ago :)
[01:20] <pr0-t31n> what do u guys think off goatse coming off the interweb??
[01:20] <facugaich> I was telling pr0-tein
[01:20] <vega-_> simosx: i know.. just thought i'd ask if someone might have ran into trouble or something
[01:20] <cablop> if i do it in that way system reports me errors
[01:21] <gimmulf> when i start alsamixer i can only change volume for my bluetooth
[01:21] <tin_nqn> facugiach:  I must dowload a list of file from a hosting server to another... that I am connected by ssh. Here I use ftp command to connect to the first one (source of my files)
[01:21] <scifi> Cerveza: wine compatability layer also looks good
[01:21] <polpak> cablop, what errors?
[01:21] <tin_nqn> That's all ok.
[01:21] <nickrud> cablop, gedit <file> , and on the first line put #! /bin/bash . Add your two lines below that line. Close & save the file, then chmod +x <file>
[01:22] <jadaz87> !tell pr0-t31n about offtopic
[01:22] <simosx> nickrud, it's long since I compiled a kernel myself. Even for a kernel module, one can simply compile the module and install. For me, gcc 4.0.2 was ok to compile kernel modules.
[01:22] <pr0-t31n> chillax
[01:22] <pr0-t31n> what irc client are yall using???
[01:22] <simosx> xchat
[01:22] <tin_nqn> but I have move 6000 and more files... and mget command (into an ftp session) ask me every time if I want "dowload XXX.zzz file"
[01:23] <nickrud> simosx, the only problem with that is ubuntu uses 3.4 to compile the kernel. Any extra modules need to be compiled with 3.4 as well.
[01:23] <bill> irssi here
[01:23] <asdf25> is there a way to start X using a specified Xsession file?
[01:23] <jbroome> irssi also + screen == happiness :)
[01:23] <bill> nickrud yeah having that issue with the nvidia kernel
[01:23] <pr0-t31n> is bitchx any good?
[01:23] <NsOmNiAc> !ubotu enlightenment
[01:23] <ubotu> hmm... enlightenment is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155
[01:23] <jmoncayo> how can i make fluxbox to set a wallpaper when i log in
[01:23] <gnomefreak> jbroome: that it does ;)
[01:23] <jadaz87> nickrud look at this What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[01:23] <jadaz87> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[01:23] <jadaz87> The path "kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] " is not an existing directory.
[01:23] <simosx> tin_nqn, if you type "prompt", it will turn off prompting. Using "ncftp" as an FTP client will do the job much better
[01:23] <jadaz87> nickrud i already installed the headers
[01:23] <jmoncayo> how can i make fluxbox to set a wallpaper when i log in
[01:23] <pr0-t31n> run windows and download cuteftp 7
[01:23] <bill> anyone know where /lib/modules/*/volatile comes from?
[01:24] <pr0-t31n> google
[01:24] <polpak> asdf25, you can change your ~/.xsession to get it to start with that one...
[01:24] <cablop> polpak, systems try to read next line as paramneter of first one
[01:24] <tin_nqn> prompt
[01:24] <tin_nqn> ok. I try it
[01:24] <tin_nqn> thanks
[01:24] <bill> mine has the wrong nvidia module and it comes back
[01:24] <polpak> cablop, can you pastebin your script?
[01:24] <pr0-t31n> ubuntu>redhat
[01:24] <asdf25> polpak: yeah i know, i'm trying to run a second X server on top of my main Xgl one
[01:25] <nickrud> jadaz87, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare maybe that has the info you need
[01:25] <asdf25> polpak: but that'll actually work
[01:25] <siimo> all this module driver stuff that needs the same kernel version etc is a bad design
[01:25] <jadaz87> nickrud man oh man thank you
[01:25] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  I just tried EPP too... still doesn't recognize it properly
[01:25] <nickrud> siimo, that's one of the reason's I gave up kernel compiling :)
[01:25] <gimmulf> alsamixer is selecting my Bluetooth headset as device.. how do i switch to my soundcard?
[01:25] <cablop> my case is i need to set in a first line the CLASSPATH like
[01:25] <pr0-t31n> when i first installed ubuntu i though i wouldn't use it much so i put it on a 20 gig partition now i use it more and need more space what on earth should i do?
[01:25] <cablop> CLASSPATH=/app/pack.jar
[01:25] <cablop> after that export it
[01:25] <cablop> export CLASSPATH
[01:25] <cablop> no more, but if i copy that lines in the same .sh file systems said
[01:25] <polpak> siimo, so join the kernel-devel mailing list and fix it =)
[01:25] <cablop> ': not a valid identifier3: export: `CLASSPATH
[01:25] <CosmoDad> siimo: there is a reason why it's necessary, you just don't get it
[01:25] <cablop> excuse me, i think that line was shorter
[01:26] <gnomefreak> cablop: please use pastebin to [aste
[01:26] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  I'm thinking maybe I just wasn't starting lp properly from the command line (the LiveCD apparently doesn't automatically start parallel support)
[01:26] <siimo> CosmoDad, yes i do get it....
[01:26] <siimo> but its unacceptable  and one of the reasons that venders are put off making drivers for their own hardware
[01:26] <CosmoDad> siimo: then why do you say that?
[01:26] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, I don't know what to say. Live CD, well, I tend to avoid questions about that since I haven't run one, ever.
[01:26] <polpak> cablop, well you could also just do export CLASSPATH=/app/pack.jar
[01:26] <jfk> sounds like u need "apt-get install build-essentials"
[01:27] <gnomefreak> build-essential
[01:27] <siimo> because you need to recompile driver/module for every new kernel even a 2.6.12.x patch
[01:27] <cablop> ok i'll try, how to coment a line in .sh files? using "#"??
[01:27] <scifi> pr0-t3in: can u not make another partition on the drive and allow ubuntu to access it?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> cablop: put a # infront of the line
[01:27] <nickrud> siimo, I thought there was supposed to be some mechanism to get around that now adays
[01:27] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  OK... what's in your /etc/modules file?
[01:27] <CosmoDad> siimo: vendors don't publish drivers because they think they can make a fortune out of windows users
[01:28] <cablop> now the error is
[01:28] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, lp, psmouse & nvidia
[01:28] <jfk> accecpt correction by gnome-freak
[01:28] <gimmulf> alsamixer is selecting my Bluetooth headset as device.. how do i switch to my soundcard?
[01:28] <cablop> now the error is
[01:28] <cablop> : command not found line 2:
[01:28] <pr0-t31n> when i first installed ubuntu i though i wouldn't use it much so i put it on a 20 gig partition but know i use it so much i need more space what should i dooo???????????????????????????
[01:28] <siimo> CosmoDad, that may be true but the linux driver architecure is not great... just imagine what would be possible if all you needed was one driver for all 2.6 series kernels with no recompiles needed and it plugged in nicely with every 2.6 kernel
[01:28] <polpak> cablop, how are you running the file?
[01:28] <nickrud> pr0-t31n, buy another hd?
[01:28] <CosmoDad> pr0-t31n: backup what you got, then try enlarging the partition with, say, gparted
[01:28] <polpak> cablop, and more specifically, how are you editing it?
[01:28] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  hmm... same as my HDD installation except for nvidia... do you know where kernel settings for lp and stuff would be stored (if there are any)?  I know sound stuff, for example, is in /etc/sound/...
[01:28] <cablop> like this "./file.sh"
[01:29] <cablop> withount the "
[01:29] <siimo> then closed source vendors wouldnt have the problem of keeping up with the kernel dev
[01:29] <gnomefreak> cablop: sh file.sh will do it also
[01:29] <pr0-t31n> how bout a partitionmagic?
[01:29] <CosmoDad> pr0-t31n: qtparted is like a good tool for that
[01:30] <M3M> Can anyone point me in the right direction towards setting up a LAN printer under ion3?
[01:30] <cablop> not sh ./file.sh doesn't work nor bash ./file.sh
[01:30] <pr0-t31n> nickrud ive got enough space but thats for windows
[01:30] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, dapper has changed how modules are handled, I'm still learning
[01:30] <polpak> cablop, how are you editing the file?
[01:30] <pr0-t31n> thx cosmodad
[01:30] <cablop> using nano
[01:30] <jadaz87> pr0-t31n are you going to use it as your main os?
[01:30] <cablop> nano file.sh
[01:30] <twidget> nickrud, thanks for the advice earlier
[01:30] <pr0-t31n> windows?
[01:30] <CosmoDad> siimo: there are rapid changes between kernel versions, not just between 2.6.12.x, but also between 2.6.8 and 2.6.14. You need a way to differentiate
[01:30] <jadaz87> pr0-t31n ubuntu?
[01:30] <pr0-t31n> i dont know
[01:30] <polpak> cablop, it'd be very helpful if you'd prefix your responses.. Makes it much easier to read
[01:30] <pr0-t31n> im wishy washy bout operating systems
[01:30] <nickrud> twidget, glad it helped. Partitioning is a matter of taste, as much as anything else
[01:31] <pr0-t31n> windows seems much easier
[01:31] <pr0-t31n> but everybody loves linux
[01:31] <cablop> and i have only this lines
[01:31] <cablop> export CLASSPATH=/SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar
[01:31] <cablop> java net.grinder.TCPSniffer -remoteHost <IP_ADDRESS> -remotePort 80 -httpPluginFilter > sniffer.log
[01:31] <polpak> pr0-t31n, it's not really easier. People just think it's easier because they have been using windows for 10 years. If you used linux for that long linux would be easy too
[01:31] <cablop> polpak, soprry, i dfo it by now
[01:31] <gnomefreak> pr0-t31n: a better channel for your topic is #ubuntu-offtopic since its not a ubuntu related support issue
[01:32] <pr0-t31n> people are asking me what is my main os
[01:32] <f00li5h> polpak: true, but doing harder things is easier by comparison
[01:32] <siimo> yes but they could still have just one interface to hardware that doesnt need to be recompiled every time, google it a lot of people think this is a major flaw of the kernel that is coming in the way of hardware support by vendors  and desktop acceptance
[01:32] <pr0-t31n> what should i do
[01:32] <scifi> pr0-t3in:the question is, which do YOU prefer?
[01:32] <polpak> cablop, you need the shebang
[01:32] <pr0-t31n> i want to say ubuntu
[01:32] <polpak> cablop, and you should use pastebin
[01:32] <jfk> >pr0 - well said that person!!
[01:32] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  OK.  I'll search some more on Google, but I haven't come up with much...
[01:32] <polpak> cablop, on the very first line of the file put #!/bin/bash
[01:32] <cablop> polpak what's sehbang?
[01:32] <f00li5h> say, i was wondering if anyone can tell me how to turn processor stepping off
[01:32] <scifi> pr0-t3in: well then increase ubuntus partition with gparted
[01:32] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  Thanks again for your help
[01:32] <ompaul> pr0-t31n, to do #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, or ask a specific help question this is not a chat room - thanks
[01:33] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, luck
[01:33] <f00li5h> cablop: #! /pat/to/interpreter
[01:33] <pr0-t31n> k
[01:33] <CosmoDad> siimo: the driver API hasn't changed much for 2.6.8... there's a major difference between 2.4 and 2.6, but not within a major branch
[01:33] <ompaul> pr0-t31n, its a help channel
[01:33] <majd> Hi, anyone know of a dock launcher...sorta like the one that comes with gdesklets?
[01:33] <polpak> f00li5h, no space
[01:33] <cablop> how can i found the path to my interpreter?
[01:33] <f00li5h> polpak: you can have a space,
[01:33] <CosmoDad> siimo: prob is drivers rely on different components within the kernel that *do* change
[01:33] <f00li5h> polpak: and some older unix systems have a 3 character shebang
[01:34] <polpak> cablop, type which bash
[01:34] <slavik> f00li5h: that is quite f00li5h :P
[01:34] <f00li5h> slavik: *sigh*
[01:34] <CosmoDad> siimo: like wireless extensions, or v4l vs. v4l2.. has nothing to do with the driver model
[01:34] <NsOmNiAc> !ubotu enlightenment
[01:34] <ubotu> somebody said enlightenment was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155
[01:34] <simosx> cablop, "env python"?
[01:34] <nickrud> CosmoDad, and that is the issue, maybe 2.8 will have stable releases, not releases that require a bcollins to keep it functional
[01:34] <f00li5h> simosx: yeah, you can do that too
[01:35] <simosx> "siimo" is gone.
[01:35] <Anon8756> demo
[01:35] <cablop> i begin to think using .sh files where very difficult
[01:35] <polpak> cablop, it's not really
[01:35] <cablop> * are instead of where
[01:35] <f00li5h> cablop: nah, you just need someone to answer the simple questions, so you don't get stuck on them for months
[01:36] <CosmoDad> nickrud: so what do you suggest: freezing all development within a release?
[01:36] <simosx> cablop, I had a look at your pastebin text. You have "#!/bin/bash" more than once in your file. It should be once, at the start.
[01:36] <polpak> cablop, just put #!/bin/bash on the first line of the file, then you can put your commands in fine
[01:36] <nickrud> CosmoDad, we're a bit off topic, and if you've ever watched the kernel mail list, you know what I'm talking about.
[01:36] <cablop> polpak but i only  need to execute those two lines, in windows i only need to place them into a file and put the extension .cmd or .bat, no more, here it dfoesn't work, maybe i need to use a different file extension?
[01:37] <f00li5h> or if it's an ash script you can just have a single : on the first line
[01:37] <nekostar> !sound
[01:37] <ubotu> methinks sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:37] <polpak> cablop, linux doesn't use extentions
[01:37] <polpak> cablop, it uses the shebang
[01:37] <f00li5h> polpak: shebangs and chmoddage
[01:37] <f00li5h> cablop: you chmod +x'ed it?
[01:37] <polpak> cablop, the #!/bin/bash means " run the commands in this file using /bin/bash"
[01:39] <cablop> yes i chemoded the file
[01:40] <simonpca> Bonjour tout le monde!
[01:40] <polpak> !fr
[01:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:40] <LathropWells> Where do i add this command to run at boot up?  " hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/cdrom0"
[01:40] <f00li5h> LathropWells: init scripts
[01:40] <echo> !twinview
[01:40] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, echo
[01:40] <f00li5h> LathropWells: when do you want it to run?
[01:41] <cablop> ok i understand that but now
[01:41] <polpak> LathropWells, you can put it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh if you want it to run at boot
[01:41] <cablop> it tryies to exectute those lines but cannot fount my file
[01:41] <echo> anyone have a geforce fx 5200 runnin 2 monitors
[01:41] <LathropWells> You guys are great. - Thank You.
[01:41] <f00li5h> cablop: you got full paths to the files you refer to in the scripts?
[01:41] <fRz[Fu] > hi there
[01:41] <cablop> yes
[01:41] <DShepherd> is there an irc channel for rhythm box?
[01:42] <jadaz87> does anyone know if i do these commands if they will be permanent?
[01:42] <jadaz87> $sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/swap bs=1M count=3000
[01:42] <jadaz87> $sudo mkswap /tmp/swap
[01:42] <jadaz87> $sudo swapon /tmp/swap
[01:42] <f00li5h> DShepherd: i'd assume so, randomly join things that sound like that
[01:42] <polpak> cablop, what is the error it gives?
[01:42] <polpak> jadaz87, pastebin pls
[01:42] <fRz[Fu] > i've juste downloaded nvidia drivers and i'd like to know wich package are necessary for ubuntu 5.10 to install the drivers ?
[01:42] <cablop> now it says me ": there's no such file or directoryer-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar'"
[01:42] <f00li5h> jadaz87: nope
[01:42] <f00li5h> jadaz87: i'd say not, since /tmp will be eaten through each restart (i think)
[01:43] <cablop> but executing same line it works
[01:43] <jadaz87> f00li5h so it is not permanent? oh ok thanks :-)
[01:43] <f00li5h> jadaz87: don't take my word alone though
[01:43] <DShepherd> f00li5h: remember the name of the channel. #rhythmbox doesnt work
[01:43] <Quinthius> jadams: even if /tmp isn't cleared on reboot, that file won't automatically be used for swap unless you add it in /etc/fstab or enable it manually again
[01:43] <f00li5h> DShepherd: nope, i use cplay
[01:43] <cablop> polpak, excuse me i said now it says me ": No existe el fichero o el directorioer-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar'" but using that line in the comandline it works
[01:43] <Quinthius> err jadaz87
[01:44] <DShepherd> f00li5h: ok
[01:44] <polpak> cablop, something looks wrong with that path..
[01:45] <polpak> cablop, shouldn't it be /SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar
[01:45] <jadaz87> Quinthius yes?
[01:45] <cablop> yes, it's that path
[01:45] <facugaich> polpak, the error msg is overlapping it
[01:45] <polpak> cablop, try just typing ls -al /SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar
[01:45] <Quinthius> jadaz87: see my message to jadams, was meant for you
[01:46] <cablop> polpak, yes and the file is here
[01:46] <jadaz87> Quinthius yes i see it thanks
[01:46] <twitch> what is a good app to use to convert ntfs to fat32 on a usb hard drive? i tried gparted but it shows a lock by it or if there is a ms dos disk with usb support that would be a last resort
[01:46] <jadaz87> does anyone know if breezy uses the same filesystem as hoary on the live cd
[01:46] <polpak> cablop, so you have a directory in your root dir called SIMAT-MEN ?
[01:46] <cablop> polpak, yes
[01:46] <polpak> cablop, why not /home or /opt or something?
[01:47] <cablop> polpak, and  everyone has access to this directory
[01:47] <polpak> cablop, so paste the output of the command ls -al /SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar
[01:47] <twitch> what is a good app to use to convert ntfs to fat32 on a usb hard drive? i tried gparted but it shows a lock by it or if there is a ms dos disk with usb support that would be a last resort
[01:47] <cablop> polpak, because i was using this application in one winfdows machine with same path and i don't want to spand time fixing paths between OS
[01:47] <polpak> twitch, you mean formatting the drive to fat32?
[01:47] <Quinthius> twitch: CAN you even convert ntfs to fat32?
[01:48] <nickrud> twitch, I don't think that you can do that
[01:48] <twitch> oops i didnt mean convert i meant reformat
[01:48] <nickrud> twitch, maybe some $$$ app can
[01:48] <cablop> polpak, "-rwxrwxrwx  1 sakura sakura<PHONE_NUMBER>-11-03 16:38 /SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar"
[01:48] <jadaz87> nickrud do you know if breezy uses the same filesystem as hoary on the live cd?
[01:48] <polpak> cablop, pastebin your sh file pls
[01:49] <twitch> when i try using gparted it shows a lock by it and it wont let me format it
[01:49] <nickrud> jadaz87, I've never run a livecd. No clue
[01:49] <cablop> jadaz87, i hear not
[01:49] <cablop> ok
[01:49] <cablop> !pastebin
[01:49] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:49] <polpak> jadaz87, you mean same fs type?
[01:49] <Quinthius> twitch: is the drive currently mounted?
[01:49] <twitch> yea
[01:49] <polpak> twitch, unmount it
[01:49] <Quinthius> twitch: unmount it and try again
[01:49] <scifi> when i partition to do the dual-boot setup, what file-system format will it use (ntfs etc) ?
[01:49] <twitch> ok
[01:50] <polpak> scifi, win xp needs ntfs
[01:50] <bill> stranve
[01:50] <bill> strange
[01:50] <bill> if I install the nvidia driver, it works for one boot
[01:50] <twitch> how do i remount it
[01:50] <bill> then fails after reboot
[01:50] <MrKubuntuUser> I just found the instructions to insert the following into /etc/modules.conf:  "options parport_pc io=0x378,0x278 irq=7,auto"
[01:50] <odat> anyone ever get Lirc working?
[01:50] <nickrud> bill, you mean you do a modprobe nvidia & it works for that boot session?
[01:51] <MrKubuntuUser> Where does that go in Dapper?  modules.conf doesn't exist
[01:51] <skpl> can someone tell me what the startup dir is in ubuntu?
[01:51] <bill> nickrud no even stranger, if I boot nvidia.ko is loaded, but it doesn't work
[01:51] <twitch> how do i remout my us hd
[01:51] <polpak> skpl, define "start up dir"
[01:51] <twitch> *remount
[01:51] <bill> but if I install it again it does (for that boot)
[01:51] <polpak> twitch, is it in fstab?
[01:51] <cablop> oplpak, this is my sh file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12265
[01:51] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, I think that goes in /etc/modutils/ (like I said, it's all changed for dapper, I'm relearning)
[01:51] <Quinthius> twitch: after formatting it? or just how it is already?
[01:51] <cablop> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12265
[01:51] <twitch> i just unmounted it
[01:51] <bill> I'd use the default nvidia driver but I require 8xxx for my video card
[01:52] <twitch> how do i remount. i havent formatted it yet
[01:52] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  OK, I'll try that.  Is /etc/modules.conf for the 2.4 kernel or something?
[01:52] <nickrud> bill, add the word nvidia at the end of /etc/modules , that will reload the nvidia module automatically at each boot
[01:52] <skpl> polpak, i have a program that came with a script, it told me to put the script in my startup dir, which it listed as possibly being /etc/init.d/rcx.d or /sbin/etc/init.d/rcx.d
[01:52] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, no, just for older versions of the 2.6 kernel. It's moving fast.
[01:52] <skpl> polpak, Where the 'X' in rcX.d is the value obtained by running the
[01:52] <skpl> following command
[01:52] <skpl> 	grep initdefault /etc/inittab | awk -F: '{print $2}'
[01:52] <bill> nickrud the problem isn't that the module isn't loading...it's just something else is fixed by the nvidia installer
[01:52] <facugaich> twitch, I think you can use 'umount' to mount removable devices
[01:52] <Quinthius> twitch: if it's in your fstab, you can just do something like mount /dev/hda1 or whatever the drive is
[01:52] <polpak> cablop, this is how it should look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12266
[01:53] <Quinthius> twitch: or, mount /path/to/mount/point ... look in /etc/fstab to make sure
[01:53] <nickrud> bill, try that, that's the one thing I remember doing to get nvidia support for each boot.
[01:53] <polpak> skpl, put the script in /etc/init.d
[01:53] <bill> nickrud I just booted, and lsmod shows it
[01:53] <bill> but I'll try it
[01:53] <skpl> polpak ok
[01:53] <s|k> what's the apt-get for build dependencies?
[01:53] <cablop> polpak, i'll try
[01:54] <nickrud> bill, then nm, you're right I guess about something else
[01:54] <s|k> the syntax?
[01:54] <NsOmNiAc> I want to get rid of everything KDE on this system if I remeber right there is some command that does that
[01:54] <rOss^64> anything special i have to do to make my wireless work with ubuntu. it worked on liveCD but does not show up on the installed version
[01:54] <bill> nickrud ah, I was afraid of that
[01:54] <nickrud> NsOmNiAc, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> Can someone explain why when mounted /windows shows up as an icon on the desktop (only after changing fstab as instructed in !ntfs to be user-accessible) when none of my other partitions do?  I'd rather only removable media show as an icon.  /etc/fstab is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12219.
[01:54] <Quinthius> tonyyarusso: are you mounting it under /media/ ?
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> Quinthius: No, under /.
[01:55] <skpl> polpak, does it matter what i name the script?
[01:55] <polpak> skpl, nope
[01:55] <Quinthius> tonyyarusso: hmm, does the fstab entry have the "user" flag? i seem to recall something about that causing stuff to appear on the desktop
[01:55] <[C] hris> What would cause gnome not to run this from a panel icon if it is fact the correct location? "wine /home/chris/.wine/drive_c/World of Warcraft/WoW.exe -opengl"
[01:56] <cablop> polpak, it cpontinues telling me that there's no such file or directory :(
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> Quinthius: Yes, let me see if removing that changes anything.
[01:56] <polpak> cablop, show me the whole error pls
[01:56] <skpl> polpak, i do not think it worked, i logged out and back in and it is not running
[01:56] <polpak> skpl, it only works on boot
[01:57] <polpak> skpl, but you need to add a symlink also
[01:57] <scifi> [C] hris:i'd love to know if uve used wine to run counter-strike on ur system at all?, apparently it supports steam based games
[01:57] <cablop> ok
[01:57] <skpl> polpak, can you tell me how to do that?
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> Quinthius: That was it.  Thank you.  Been wondering about that for a few days and nobody knew.
[01:57] <skpl> polpak, what is a symlink?
[01:57] <polpak> skpl, cd /etc/rc2.d
[01:57] <cablop> !pastebin
[01:57] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:58] <skpl> polpak, ok
[01:58] <cablop> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12267
[01:58] <polpak> tonyyarusso, only problem with not having the user flag.. Means users can't mount/unmount it only root
[01:59] <Quinthius> tonyyarusso: hehe. there might also be some option for nautilus in the system tools -> config editor stuff, to change what kind of drives it shows, but i forget..
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> Quinthius: I think it just has show or not show, but I'll look.
[01:59] <polpak> cablop, can you pastebin the script again.. ?
[01:59] <Quinthius> tonyyarusso: ahhh that might be it
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Well, that's nothing new, none of my other things are mountable except by root.
[01:59] <polpak> tonyyarusso, true enough
[01:59] <nickrud> Quinthius, tonyyarusso the user flag is the only thing that works for the desktop showing, irrc
[01:59] <Quinthius> nickrud: ahh okie
[02:00] <cablop> polpak, i'll pastebin the file and the output
[02:00] <polpak> skpl, ls -al in the directory
[02:00] <[C] hris> Scifi no i just run wow which works as of today
[02:00] <facugaich> whats that IRC client lots of you use? irssci?
[02:00] <Quinthius> xchat
[02:00] <polpak> skpl, you should see several links to scripts in /etc/init.d
[02:00] <CokeNCode> xchat
[02:00] <nickrud> xchat
[02:00] <CokeNCode> or bitchx
[02:00] <facugaich> no, the other one
[02:00] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  Sorry, Firefox crashed.
[02:00] <polpak> skpl the order listed here determines the order in which the scripts are run
[02:00] <Quinthius> irssi
[02:00] <facugaich> that one
[02:00] <facugaich> thanks
[02:00] <skpl> oh, ok
[02:00] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, what's new :)
[02:00] <skpl> polpak, what else?
[02:01] <CokeNCode> my ubuntu install keeps breaking ...
[02:01] <CokeNCode> i'm running an xp and ubuntu dual boot
[02:01] <CokeNCode> and every now and again, by x server gets fubar'd
[02:01] <polpak> skpl, to create a new link to your script use ln -s /etc/init.d/scriptname S66scriptname   where the 66 number just determines where the file will be in the list, and scriptname is the name of the script in /etc/init.d
[02:02] <CokeNCode> and i have to reinstall Ubuntu to get it back
[02:02] <tuyan> ok, is serial console working on ubuntu ?
[02:02] <CokeNCode> anyone know what could be causing this ?
[02:02] <polpak> !tell CokeNCode about enter
[02:02] <polpak> CokeNCode, define fubar'd
[02:02] <skpl> polpak, what if the script does not exist in the dir, i should copy it over?
[02:02] <polpak> CokeNCode, what erros does it give
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> CokeNCode: Do you have any more information, errors, logs, etc?
[02:02] <CokeNCode> CokeNCode, it says modeprobe error, and that it can't find quite a few files
[02:02] <polpak> skpl, doesn't exist in /etc/init.d ?
[02:03] <cablop> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12268
[02:03] <echo> can someone help me configure my xorg to do twinview
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> CokeNCode: And does this happen randomly, or after you or the system has done something significant?
[02:03] <skpl> polpak, it is in /etc/init.d/rc2.d
[02:03] <CokeNCode> i know this isn't much info, i was hoping that someone else had possibly encountered this same problem. I'm thinking it may be the hard drive i'm using (a separate one for Ubuntu that I salvaged from an old pc) that's bad
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know of a GUI interface to configuring runlevels?
[02:04] <skpl> polpak, ok, now it is there
[02:04] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, bum
[02:04] <CokeNCode> tonyyarusso, it actually seems pretty random, it happens when I reboot tho, that much I've noticed
[02:04] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  I just tired doing insmod parport and it returned "can't read 'parport':  No such file or directory'.  Am I using the command improperly
[02:04] <CokeNCode> sorry, when I boot up
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> CokeNCode: Possible...  You might be will off though to save logs the next time it happens, and pastebin them.
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Does that let me do ones other than 2?
[02:05] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, no clue :) rcconf is a text gui, works nicely
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: I'll check that out too.
[02:05] <Storkme> how can i force dpkg to use i386 arch instead of amd64?
[02:05] <CokeNCode> tonyyarusso, ok, thanks, last time it happened, i came on using bitchx, i'd lost the xserver but, it crashed into console, and i was able to run bitchx and ask for help, hpoefully if it happens again, i'll be able to come back in and give more info
[02:05] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, you probably would prefer to use modprobe
[02:05] <polpak> cablop, you said this command works from the command line?
[02:06] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  Can I specify stuff like the irq number using modprobe?
[02:06] <Storkme> how can i force dpkg to use i386 arch instead of amd64?
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> CokeNCode: Yeah, I run irssi on a terminal so I can get support if X dies.
[02:06] <skpl> polpak, i created the symbolic link, is that all i have to do?
[02:06] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, you pinned me. Dapper, right?
[02:06] <polpak> skpl, should be
[02:06] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  Yeah, Kubuntu Flight 6
[02:06] <skpl> polpak, but i have to restart to test it right?
[02:07] <polpak> skpl, you can test it with sudo /etc/rc2.d/S66filename restart
[02:07] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud: Sorry :D
[02:07] <polpak> skpl, assuming the link is called S66filename
[02:07] <skpl> polpak, thank you
[02:07] <Storkme> how can i force dpkg to use i386 arch instead of amd64?
[02:07] <skpl> i think i get it
[02:07] <nahoj-> hmm... almost every time i run azureus, amaroK and x-chat my system hang up...
[02:07] <skpl> though i do not understand why we need symbolic links
[02:07] <ompaul> CokeNCode, that looks like it might be hardware - please reseat the video card, and ram launch the memtester before you go to bed and see what comes back
[02:07] <cablop> polpak, yes it works fine
[02:07] <polpak> skpl, cause the file should be in /etc/init.d  but we want to reference from many places
[02:08] <CokeNCode> on to my other problem, after i update the kernel, i get 4 different boot options for ubuntu, this is a bit much isnt it, is there any reason to keep the old kernel boot option around?
[02:08] <cablop> polpak, really fine
[02:08] <echo> someone help me with this my boss is gonna stab me
[02:08] <echo> lol
[02:08] <polpak> skpl, so we link rathr than copy incase we want to change it, we don't have to change them all
[02:08] <CosmoDad> nahoj-: start them from console and see if standard output helps to figure out what the prob si
[02:08] <CosmoDad> nahoj-: is
[02:08] <WillyTell> hello everybody!
[02:08] <polpak> echo, ?
[02:08] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, I really need to upgrade my skills on how modules are handled in dapper. I have some ideas, but none worth your wasting time on
[02:08] <CokeNCode> ompaul, could it be as a result of me installing nvidea drivers, when i have an onboard soundcard ?
[02:08] <skpl> polpak, do i have to make the script executable?
[02:08] <echo> twinview on a 5200
[02:08] <polpak> cablop, what is the output of pwd ?
[02:08] <skpl> polpak, i have yet to do that
[02:08] <polpak> skpl, yes
[02:08] <echo> polpak, twinview on a 5200, i got it workin... thanks for that before
[02:09] <nahoj-> CosmoDad, thx... *checking out*
[02:09] <cablop> polpak, it's /SIMAT-MEN/plantilla/rec
[02:09] <skpl> polpak, chmod +x right?
[02:09] <polpak> cablop, can you pastebin the output of ls ?
[02:09] <polpak> skpl, yeah
[02:09] <ompaul> CokeNCode, it might be the drivers - save /etc/X11/xorg.conf to one side and use VESA and if it works without falling over then consider changing the driver or card
[02:09] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: How do I choose runlevel with that tool?  rcconf #?
[02:09] <cablop> polpak, i go
[02:10] <CokeNCode> ompaul, ok ... thanks
[02:10] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, you don't, you set the default run level in /etc/inittab
[02:10] <polpak> echo, so what are you needing help with?
[02:10] <ompaul> CokeNCode, the audio should not be part of the problem
[02:10] <skpl> polpak, for some reason the restart command does not work, it tells me to use start or tsop
[02:10] <polpak> skpl, ok, just try start
[02:10] <CokeNCode> right, i meant to say video card
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: But what if I want to have mulitiple runlevels configured differently?
[02:10] <WillyTell> XGL ???
[02:10] <CokeNCode> i have an onboard video card
[02:10] <ompaul> CokeNCode, if disabled it has no influence
[02:10] <skpl> polpak, it worked
[02:10] <WillyTell> someone tried the new XGL on Ubuntu???
[02:10] <echo> polpak, tryin to find something that shows someone elses xorg file that has a 5200
[02:11] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, you add a new file to /etc/modprobe.d/   and in that file have a line options parport <options>, see alsa-base in that dir for an example
[02:11] <polpak> WillyTell, on dapper yes
[02:11] <CokeNCode> ompaul, it's not disabled, that's what i use ... :/
[02:11] <cablop> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12269
[02:11] <ompaul> WillyTell, #ubuntu+1 would be a better channel for that conversation
[02:11] <polpak> echo, pretty much all the nvidia configs are the same
[02:11] <WillyTell> thank you very much!
[02:11] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  OK, I'll look now
[02:11] <echo> polpak
[02:11] <ompaul> CokeNCode, ahh I thought you had two cards there for a moment - just try that and there ya go
[02:11] <echo> polpak, ok ty... ill search on google
[02:11] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, you can set up each run level as you chose, and either telinit <runlevel> or change the default in /etc/inittab or during the boot, edit the grub menu line
[02:12] <CokeNCode> ok, but i can't reseat an onboard card ... i think when i ran Automatix, i installed some nvidea drivers that may be causing the problem
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Right, but the "set up each run level as you chose" part is what I'm wondering about.
[02:12] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, that stuff has changed 3 times in this major kernel release, it's fun keeping up <not>
[02:13] <CokeNCode> either that, or the fact that it has to switch from one resolution to another when loading up xserver. I fixed that now, so I'll see if that helps
[02:13] <cablop> polpak?
[02:13] <ompaul> !automatix
[02:13] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:13] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, just what are you attempting to do? I might be able to give better <more specific> advice
[02:13] <ompaul> CokeNCode, ^^
[02:13] <polpak> echo http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html
[02:14] <scifi> is it gnome 2.14 with breezy badger?
[02:14] <polpak> cablop, you're doing something wrong.. I can't tell what it is though
[02:14] <CokeNCode> ompaul, ok, what would you suggest instead of automatix ?
[02:14] <nickrud> scifi, 2.12 in breezy, 2.14 in dapper
[02:14] <ompaul> scifi, no 2.12 that will be in the next release
[02:14] <echo> polpat... thanks again
[02:14] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Well, my first thing is simple, just removing gdm from runlevel 3, but I'd rather learn the general stuff just for the knowledge.  (I think I can do the specific part already, but hey.)
[02:14] <polpak> echo, it's polpak
[02:14] <ompaul> CokeNCode,  documentation or #easyubuntu
[02:14] <echo> oh god i did it again
[02:14] <scifi> can i upgrade to 2.14 from within breezy badger?
[02:14] <polpak> echo you know xchat does tab completion right?
[02:15] <echo> im like talkin to customers and typin at the same time
[02:15] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, ok, first, runlevel 2 is the default run level. Remove gdm from that one.
[02:15] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  oof... so the kernel just uses options from a file with the same name as the module in /etc/modprobe.d whenever a module is loaded?
[02:15] <echo> i have no clue what that is
[02:15] <polpak> echo type pol then hit tab
[02:15] <echo> lol
[02:15] <CokeNCode> ompaul, so you think automatix may be the source of my problem?
[02:15] <echo> wow
[02:15] <echo> thanks
[02:15] <polpak> echo also
[02:15] <polpak> echo bash has tab completion
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: No, I want it by default, but would like to be able to create a semi-recovery option in grub for if X is borking on me or I just want to boot fast, but I don't want to full recovery mode.
[02:15] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, I believe so, anyway it makes sense to name it the same as the module. You are currently a guinea pig :)
[02:16] <CokeNCode> i installed it a good few days ago, and i've shutdown and booted up fine several times since then
[02:16] <echo> whats bash?
[02:16] <polpak> echo the shell you get in a terminal
[02:16] <echo> oooh
[02:16] <echo> yeah
[02:16] <echo> damnit
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> CokeNCode: Ooh.  Yeah, automatix is icky.
[02:16] <polpak> echo, so for example typing /u<tab>/loc<tab> will give you /usr/local
[02:16] <echo> sorry i was usin windoze for the last 6 months... before that kubuntu//// im not that good at the linux thing yet
[02:16] <LathropWells> born again sh - ell
[02:16] <ompaul> CokeNCode, without actually having the machine here I could not say, however I have seen a lot of people come through this channel with broken boxes as a result of it, two choices one reinstall or ask the author for help
[02:17] <CokeNCode> tonyyarusso, lol, ok. I'll keep that in mind.
[02:17] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, ok, then remove it from 3, then add another grub stanza and add     3   to the end of the kernel invocation for that stanza
[02:17] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  haha, OK.  I'll try it out in a virtual machine now
[02:17] <echo> thats cool
[02:17] <CokeNCode> thanks ompaul
[02:17] <echo> thanks for that
[02:17] <polpak> echo =)
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Right.  Just wondering if there's an easy way to mess with stuff generally.
[02:17] <nickrud> MrKubuntuUser, yes, I remember you saying you have a virtual machine :) I'm looking forward to having vmware or the free equiv soon
[02:17] <moonwatcher> hello
[02:18] <moonwatcher> can i ask a question?
[02:18] <CraiZE> moonwatcher, yes :) you are supposed to
[02:18] <ompaul>     #ubuntu-il
[02:18] <jmoncayo> how can i start the sound so i can use mpg321?
[02:18] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  I'm actually using Virtual PC for this... it runs Ubuntu very nicely, even though Microsoft says they don't support Linux
[02:18] <polpak> tonyyarusso, if you really want to learn how the boot stuff works, take a look at "Linux from Scratch" they explain a lot of it there
[02:18] <ompaul> moonwatcher, ask away
[02:18] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, what you're doing is right down in the guts of a gnu/linux system, easy is relative :)
[02:18] <CokeNCode> wow, this channel is nice, other places, folks would've jumped all over him for asking to ask
[02:18] <jmoncayo> how can i start the sound so i can use mpg321?
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> polpak: I'll check it out.
[02:19] <polpak> CokeNCode, depends on our mood
[02:19] <ompaul> CokeNCode, we jump on people for noticing :-)
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Hehe, true.
[02:19] <moonwatcher> i have an IBM T42, tried the live cd on it and the 2200BG card seems to be working but getting an IPv6 adress, which naturally doesnt work
[02:19] <nickrud> ohzie, I cannot recommend linux from scratch too highly. I learned more there than anywhere else
[02:19] <cablop> polpak, thanks a lot, i changed the way i was launching the java, very strange i changed the .sh content to "java -cp /SIMAT-MEN/grinder-2.8.6/lib/grinder.jar net.grinder.TCPSniffer > sniffer.log"... just this line, and worked, very strange
[02:19] <moonwatcher> or so it seemed in ifconfig
[02:19] <simosx> jmoncayo, ideally there is no service to start to get mpg321 to work. If sound is working, it should all be ok.
[02:19] <Veronica> tonyyarusso, lol, ok. I'll keep that are you attempting to do? I might be able to give better <more specific> advice
[02:19] <polpak> tonyyarusso, it really gives you a good idea of what's going on from boot to login, etc. and how things are layed out
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Thing is, that rcconf tool looked great.  But you'd think it could handle multiple runlevels.
[02:19] <nickrud> ohzie, sorry, that was supposed to be 'oh'
[02:19] <jmoncayo> esd
[02:20] <polpak> cablop, very odd
[02:20] <word> Hi....I'm having some trouble with mysql-server it can't find the mysqld.sock file...and well..i can't either. >< I tried reinstalling and it's the same.
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> Veronica: Find a nice interface for separately configuring runlevels 2-5.
[02:20] <moonwatcher> anyone seen my question is all this?
[02:20] <defendguin> i still cant get network manager to work in dapper flight 6
[02:21] <CraiZE> moonwatcher, you gotta be patient, i dont have that problem :)
[02:21] <CraiZE> so you gotta wait til someone can help you
[02:21] <toxic_> Why does the following return "expecting unary command"? I don't see what's wrong with it ..      if [ `echo "${MSG}" | grep pam_unix` != "" ] ; then
[02:21] <simosx> defendguin, me neither. I had a USB stick and it cannot get the WEP key properly..
[02:21] <CraiZE> moonwatcher, or you can write it into the forum :)
[02:21] <polpak> moonlite, it's wireless network?
[02:21] <polpak> moonwatcher, erm
[02:21] <moonwatcher> yes
[02:21] <polpak> moonwatcher, ^^
[02:21] <moonwatcher> i checked ifconfig
[02:21] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, sysv-rc-conf is better, sorry. I hadn't looked at either recently, and got them mixed up
[02:21] <moonwatcher> the interface is up
[02:21] <moonwatcher> but for somereason it gets an ipv6 address
[02:22] <defendguin> simosx: the applet crashes on startup for me
[02:22] <moonwatcher> which is not at all good
[02:22] <cablop> polpak, one question more, there's a way to say in .sh that i'm ending a line? meybe using ";" ??
[02:22] <polpak> moonwatcher, if you go to system->administration->networking you should be able to config your wep key etc
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: apt-getting now.
[02:22] <polpak> cablop, ; or a newline will mark the end of a command
[02:22] <moonwatcher> wpa
[02:22] <moonwatcher> and i did that
[02:23] <simosx> defendguin, I see. I have a clean Flight 6 install and it was ok in the respect for me.
[02:23] <moonwatcher> i think it even authenticated
[02:23] <Der_Richter> Anyone know of a good IDE for C/C++ development? I've been hassling with Dev-CPP for a year or so... and it just won't feel right. Thinking about trying something else for Linux-development. At work i've always used Visual Studio in a lot of different versions over the years... So, something close to the feel of VC6?
[02:23] <moonwatcher> but i need to have an ipv4 address
[02:23] <Der_Richter> But open source
[02:23] <polpak> moonwatcher, did you set it to DHCP?
[02:23] <bill> moon eclipse
[02:23] <moonwatcher> ham...
[02:23] <moonwatcher> i think so
[02:23] <polpak> Der_Richter, eclipse is one
[02:24] <toxic_> Why is it that data copied from linux to an usb-harddrive cannot be read by windows ? It's not ext3 on the drive or anything.
[02:24] <moonwatcher> i use a static dhcp/mac mapping on an opnwrt box
[02:24] <jinho326> is there a queue that I have to wait in to ask a question?
[02:24] <simosx> moonwatcher, can you paste the IPv6 IP address line from ifconfig?
[02:24] <simonpca> a+, j'y vais ;-)
[02:24] <Der_Richter> polpak: I've heard about that at work... But as far as i know, that's what the Java-guys downstairs use :)
[02:24] <Veronica> born again sh - ell
[02:24] <simosx> jinho326, no queue. just fire your question away :)
[02:24] <ompaul> toxic_, stupid windows boxes can need drivers to talk to usb sticks
[02:24] <mlowe> toxic_, did you rember to unmount the usb drive ?
[02:25] <moonwatcher> not now... i am running windows now, will boot the live cd again later and check again, anything special i should look for?
[02:25] <polpak> Der_Richter, or Anjuta is another one
[02:25] <moonwatcher> maybe some dumps i need to save so i can show someone here
[02:25] <toxic_> ompaul, Well, it works fine to write/read data on usb stick written by windows, but moving it to my linux comp makes the linux data unreadable
[02:25] <tarvid> any recommendations on point of sale for ubuntu
[02:25] <toxic_> mlowe, eh, why ?
[02:26] <jinho326> I unstalled ubuntu on my comp, sda1 being a sata drive, and hdb being an old IDE drive i found in the closet, the installation seemed to go fine and after installing GRUB the system restarted, but when I rebooted, the second HD isnt there and GRUB doesnt show up
[02:26] <simosx> moonwatcher, I think that the IPv6 address is not an address that came from the DHCP server. It's just that the DHCP did not work, me  thinks. You can always disable IPv6 on OpenWRT, isn't it?
[02:26] <jinho326> XP runs
[02:26] <jinho326> and thats it
[02:26] <mlowe> toxic_, to flush the write buffer, can just pull out the stick
[02:26] <polpak> Der_Richter, I generally just use a good text editor (Jedit, gedit, etc) all the ide stuff can be managed through makefiles etc
[02:26] <mlowe> s/can/can't/
[02:26] <cablop> Der_Richter, try Eclipse with the CDT package, or try Lylix, that's Borland Builder C++ for linux, or try QT
[02:26] <nekostar> oi!@!
[02:26] <nekostar> ive got alsa in
[02:26] <polpak> !ipv6
[02:26] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:27] <jinho326> I was trying to dual boot XP and ubuntu but now my second IDE hd doesnt appear in windows, but it does appear in the bios....
[02:27] <nekostar> i added modules to /etc/modules
[02:27] <nickrud> rflmao, makefiles & easy making :)
[02:27] <toxic_> mlowe, I've tried attaching it, removing it, copying data to it etc, windows still can't read any data not written by windows to it
[02:27] <cablop> Der_Richter, sorry, is Kylix not Lylix
[02:27] <moonwatcher> simosx: i dont think i even have the ipv6 stack installed on the opnwrt box
[02:27] <nekostar> and xmms etc claim there is sound but i hear NOTHING @@@@
[02:27] <simosx> tarvid, you need to use the pessulus tool to lock down the system. See http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/en/rnadmins.html
[02:27] <Der_Richter> polpak: That's what i've come to as well... Since Dev-CPP isn't to my liking. The problem is... I have to share my work with a dev-group... So i have to invent SOME standard :)
[02:27] <moonwatcher> simosx: i think your first guess was better, dhcp didnt work properly
[02:27] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  is your second drive your Ubuntu drive?
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Aaah, here we go!  This one's wonderful.
[02:27] <simosx> moonwatcher, so it's a DHCP failure there..
[02:27] <mlowe> toxic_, before you reboot try "umount /dev/sd?" !!
[02:27] <jinho326> yeah
[02:27] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, yeah I totally mixed the two
[02:28] <toxic_> mlowe, yeah I'll give that a try
[02:28] <polpak> Der_Richter, just use a beautifier to enforce a standard
[02:28] <s|k> how do I find a file from the shell?
[02:28] <tarvid> simosx, why?
[02:28] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326: is there some reason you need Windows to see your Ubuntu drive?  Does it not show up in Disk Manager?
[02:28] <mileskeaton> Installing Ubuntu onto a new laptop this weekend.  Since it's just for me, thinking of doing Dapper Drake Flight 6.  But... is it easy to upgrade as Dapper Drake becomes stable/release?
[02:28] <moonwatcher> simosx: if i get an ifconfig dump will it help to find out whats wrong? or do i need anything else?
[02:28] <cablop> polpak, are you working on linux with DEV-cpp? mmm, just try KDevelop
[02:28] <nekostar> anyone?
[02:28] <mileskeaton> Does apt-get do all upgrades needed or will I need to re-install?
[02:28] <cablop> sorry polpak
[02:28] <nickrud> mileskeaton, absolutely easy, just use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:28] <nekostar> the channels are not muted
[02:29] <simosx> tarvid, for a POS system, you need the system to be simplified with just a couple of this to be able to do, isn't it?
[02:29] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  XP can't read Ubuntu's file system, so those partitions won't get drive lettters, but the drive should show up in Disk Manager
[02:29] <mileskeaton> nikrud: cool. thanks.
[02:29] <nekostar> and the cords are plugged in
[02:29] <ompaul> nekostar, sure your plugged in? turned on, turned up and not muted (type gnome-volume-control in a terminal) and work from there
[02:29] <nekostar> and the volume is up
[02:29] <nekostar> yeah
[02:29] <jinho326> hmm
[02:29] <cablop> Der_Richter, try KDevelop instead of Dev-cpp
[02:29] <nekostar> ompaul, went through the usual :/
[02:29] <jinho326> Disk manager being like when I open My Computer?
[02:29] <nekostar> and i had it working before this last install..
[02:29] <Der_Richter> KDevelop... Part of KDE, isn't it? I'm using IceWM mostly... So... I have to install KDE completely to use KDevelop?
[02:30] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Nope, right-click My Computer, click Manage, and then click Disk Management
[02:30] <simosx> moonwatcher, the "ifconfig" dump will help rule out the IPv6 part. Did you mention it was an IPW2200 wireless card?
[02:30] <jinho326> k one second
[02:30] <polpak> Der_Richter, no, you can use KDE apps w/o using kde, but you will need a lot of the shared libs
[02:30] <cablop> Der_Richter, not necessary, just the libs needed for KDevelop to work
[02:30] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Please put the nick of the person you're talking to at the beginning of your messages so that they're easier to find.  :-)
[02:30] <moonwatcher> simosx: 2200BG, yes
[02:30] <tarvid> simosx, good point, I hadn't gotten thatn far, i've been looking at bananapos
[02:31] <scifi> can gpart be used to setup several multi-distro boot-ups?
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> Anyone used bootchart on Breezy?  I can't seem to figure out how to make it go.
[02:31] <polpak> scifi, sure
[02:31] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser sorry, Im new to IRC....but yeah it does show in Device Manager
[02:31] <cablop> Der_Richter, i used Eclipse a long time, and i like it over other IDEs
[02:31] <simosx> moonwatcher, I would recommend to check ubuntuforums, Dapper section for your wireless card. I think I heard other reports on this in Flight 6. www.ubuntuforums.org, section Dapper.
[02:31] <moonwatcher> simosx: its a T42
[02:32] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser however I cant load ubuntu itself
[02:32] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  OK, then everything is as it should be.  You'll have to use GRUB to boot Windows and Ubuntu, as Windows can't see Ubuntu's partition
[02:32] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Did you install XP before or after installing Ubuntu?
[02:32] <scifi> polpak: thx, may try kubuntu alongside ubuntu
[02:32] <cablop> ok, thanks a lot
[02:32] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser how do I do that? :-)
[02:32] <polpak> scifi, oh
[02:32] <cablop> i must go now
[02:32] <moonwatcher> simosx: whats dapper?
[02:32] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser XP before
[02:32] <polpak> scifi, no need for that
[02:32] <cablop> polpak, thanks a lot
[02:32] <polpak> cablop, sure, see you
[02:32] <Der_Richter> Ok... Might try KDevelop... Since there seems to be a lot of knowledge here i might take the time to ask another thing... At work, i mostly develop software for embedded small systems, such as DVD-players or multimedia TV's... The thinmg is... Do you think QT will run on let's say a small M68k-system with only 48 Mb. RAM? Is it possible to run QT-framework?
[02:32] <cablop> Der_Richter, just give Eclipse+CDT a try, ;)
[02:32] <polpak> scifi, you can install them both in the same place
[02:32] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser what I did was I just added the old HD to the computer and installed ubuntu on top of it
[02:33] <simosx> moonwatcher, "dapper" is the development version of Ubuntu, to be released in June, 1st.
[02:33] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser so I wouldnt have to reformat
[02:33] <scifi> really? thought they were seperate distros
[02:33] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Hmm... the installer should have installed GRUB for you
[02:33] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Did you install Ubuntu before or after moving the drive to your current machine>
[02:33] <celerex> Der_Richter: don't think you'd want to..
[02:33] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser yeah thats what's weird, it said it did, but then it never showed again
[02:33] <ompaul> !dapper
[02:33] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[02:33] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser after
[02:33] <polpak> Der_Richter, I wouldn't know. You'd probably be better off asking on the qt mailing list
[02:34] <Veronica> Der_Richter, not necessary, just the libs needed for KDevelop to work
[02:34] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: I made sure that the comp registered it, then I installed ubuntu onto it
[02:34] <polpak> scifi, no, you can just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and you'll get everything you'd have with kubuntu basically
[02:34] <scifi> polpak: so i can install KDE and switch between kde and gnome?
[02:34] <celerex> specially if you're not developing anything needs a gui.. would probably, if you needed a framework, would suggest java or MONO
[02:34] <Veronica> nickrud: Thing is, that rcconf tool looked great.  But you'd think it could handle multiple runlevel as you'd the volume is up
[02:35] <polpak> scifi, yeah, if you install kubuntu-desktop you can choose kde or gnome when you log in by clicking the "Session" button on the login screen
[02:35] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: does the fact that Im using a sata for windows, and an IDE for ubuntu matter?
[02:35] <Der_Richter> Is there other frameworks known to work on small systems? We're a little under the whip to make a transition from XP Media Center to open source. Which i personally think is good... if i can find useful libs to work with.
[02:35] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  I don't know about that
[02:35] <polpak> Der_Richter, one sec
[02:35] <wil_> Der_Richter  Do you have experience with MythTV?
[02:35] <scifi> polpak: thats sweet, liking this linux lark more every minute :)
[02:35] <celerex> Der_Richter: .. it would depend on the device i guess. Java would be the fastest implementation..
[02:35] <polpak> scifi, welcome aboard =)
[02:35] <Veronica> tonyyarusso, it really
[02:35] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: is there a way to reinstall grub?
[02:36] <polpak> celerex, not nessicaraly
[02:36] <Der_Richter> wil_: Yup. I've seen a couple of units running it.
[02:36] <Oompa> Can anyone recommend a nice parition resizer that doesn't have a habit of corrupting NTFS formated hard drives?
[02:36] <CraiZE> Oompa, in windows, partition magic
[02:37] <Der_Richter> celerex: M68020 Core, 48 Mb. RAM and no HDD. It's a DVD-player :) The system has to fit in RAM...
[02:37] <Oompa> CraiZE: Uh.. is it free :D
[02:37] <CraiZE> Oompa,  there is a free trial i suppose
[02:37] <wil_> Der Richter Just downloaded it and am lost -- said I needed to configure Myth backend
[02:37] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Yes, there is.  I think you could do that by booting an Ubuntu LiveCD
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> CraiZE: Ick.  PM broke stuff for me.
[02:37] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  However, I think your Ubuntu HD would have to be the boot drive
[02:38] <CraiZE> tonyyarusso, not for me
[02:38] <CraiZE> ;)
[02:38] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: so change the order of hd boot?
[02:38] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  I'm not positive about that, though
[02:38] <celerex> I would have thought in that situation you'd write a custom C firmware..
[02:38] <jadaz87> hello everyone i was wondering if this command is permanent or whould have to do it everytime i restart the computer:  export LC_ALL=C
[02:38] <polpak> Der_Richter, http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9202043619.html
[02:38] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Yeah, GRUB might actually be installed on your other hard drive and your computer is ignoring it
[02:38] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  so try changing the boot order
[02:38] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: I see, I'll try that
[02:39] <Der_Richter> wil_: /usr/bin/mythtv-setup
[02:39] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: thanks for the help
[02:39] <polpak> wil_, you using ubuntu?
[02:39] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  No problem.  Hope it works! :-)
[02:39] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: you'll be sure to hear from me soon if it doesnt help :-)
[02:39] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  OK.  :D
[02:39] <wil_> Der Richter thanks  yes I am in Ubuntu now
[02:40] <polpak> wil_, http://www.abarbaccia.com
[02:40] <yipe> what was the thing you add to the end of the ls command to allow you to scroll through long directories?
[02:40] <polpak> yipe,  | less
[02:40] <yipe> thank you:)
[02:40] <polpak> yipe, that works with any command
[02:40] <LathropWells> jadaz , -  I added hdparm -d1 -c1 /dev/cdrom to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh - would that work for your command?
[02:40] <Der_Richter> celerex: It's a combo thingie... According to the ppl we work for... They wan't it to be able to burn cd/dvd, access WWW, use messenger and IRC + play DVD/SVCD. So we found it easier to try for a complete OS however slim.
[02:41] <doug_> hey everyone
[02:41] <jadaz87> LathropWells what? lol
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Any way to do that so that you can keep it in columns across the whole screen than making a long one column list?
[02:41] <doug_> im having some really annoying problems
[02:41] <yipe> cool
[02:41] <polpak> tonyyarusso, yeah, one sec
[02:41] <Marineboy> Hey
[02:41] <jinho326> MrKubuntuUser: it works! thanks so much
[02:41] <Marineboy> How safe do you think it is to run the Live version for a couple days?
[02:41] <MrKubuntuUser> nickrud:  That options file seems to work!  I can't test it for DMA yet, but I used it to not specify an IRQ in Virtual PC and it seems to have worked
[02:42] <LathropWells> jadaz87,  - it would be run at boot up. maybe... - lol
[02:42] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Hey, great!  No problem!
[02:42] <nekostar> eh
[02:42] <jadaz87> LathropWells so it is just a temporary command?
[02:42] <nekostar> forwhoever was here
[02:42] <nekostar> i figured out my sound problem >_<>
[02:42] <doug_> someone help me? When i do "Sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" i get the Invalid argument error. Any help?
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> Marineboy: I've heard of it being done anyway.
[02:42] <Marineboy> Because I've tryed to install it several times, and even redownloaded it and and reburned it and it still wont work.
[02:42] <nekostar> i had the switches all checked ... should have left exchange dac unchecked...
[02:42] <nekostar> :/
[02:42] <LathropWells> jadaz87, - nvm - lol
[02:42] <MrKubuntuUser> jinho326:  Are you in Ubuntu or XP now?  :D
[02:42] <Marineboy> So I got the CD's being sent to me off the website.
[02:43] <USERNAME> Linux irc demo from palm!
[02:43] <polpak> tonyyarusso, ls -x | less
[02:43] <Stormx2> how do I restart sound?
[02:43] <lampshade> Anyone here use F-Spot?  Why does it fail so hard?  In other words, is there an option to refresh a directory and have the thumbnails of the files that have been deleted auto removed much like picasa does?
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Cool.  Okay, one more: Can I retain the file-type coloring?
[02:44] <polpak> tonyyarusso, yeah
[02:44] <Der_Richter> Ok. I will use Eclipse. And by the looks of their website microLinux can run on 68020. Fab. Now i'm in business. Thanks, by the way.
[02:44] <Datax> demo
[02:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Der_Richter: Are you doing work for the $100 laptop project, by any chance? :D
[02:45] <Joetheodd> How can I join a Windows networking workgroup and get my hostname (deadmeat) recongnized by other Windows machines?
[02:45] <Joetheodd> For ICS port forwarding, if it means anything..
[02:45] <polpak> tonyyarusso,  ls --color -x | less -r
[02:46] <Der_Richter> PuMpErNiCkLe: Nope. "The ultimate DVD/home entertainment machine" according to the demand-list. If u see the ad, get one. Keep me on the payroll :)
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Beautiful.  Thanks.
[02:46] <lampshade> Joetheodd, Samba will let you connect to workgroups beautifully, but I don't know anything about ICS in particular.  I just use samba for file sharing between win and linux machines
[02:46] <polpak> tonyyarusso, man pages are your friend =)
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Yeah, wasn't sure which one of them to even look for that in though.
[02:47] <matt_> Anyone in Alabama?
[02:47] <gasoline> hi, I can't seem to figure out this problem but when i try to install the base packages, it says an error , unable to install initrd tools, any ideas?
[02:47] <CokeNCode> hmm, why can't i apt-get install azureus anymore ?
[02:47] <polpak> tonyyarusso, well to get ls to output the color codes you need the man page for ls
[02:47] <stevemcq> Hi guys! Is anyone having problems with jack and the latest kernel?
[02:47] <Noside> hi everybody! is there a way to configure your bandwith??
[02:47] <Joetheodd> lampshade: The package "samba" itself?
[02:47] <gasoline> any ideas anyone?
[02:48] <polpak> tonyyarusso, which will tell you to use --color and -x to get the right outpu
[02:48] <polpak> tonyyarusso, but less will escape the color codes by default so you have to look at the less man page to see how to stop it from escaping the control characters (-r)
[02:48] <stevemcq> It was working fine up until about a week ago, last time I tried it. I could record with jack & ardour up to 96,000 Hz.
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Got it.  Wasn't sure since ls by itself gives color by default, but not in less.
[02:49] <stevemcq> Something this week broke it. Now if I try anything over 48,000 Hz, I keep getting xruns (buffer over/underruns) :-(
[02:49] <polpak> tonyyarusso, that's because you have the proper environment variables set. Programs can tell the difference between outputting to a terminal and outputing to a pipe
[02:49] <Noside>  is there a way to configure your network bandwith?
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Ooh.
[02:50] <polpak> tonyyarusso, so ls knows if it's outputing to a terminal to use columns and colors, but when outputing to a file (or a pipe) it behaves differently
[02:50] <Steil> does anyone want to buy a nice rug made by children in some factory in the middle east, it's about 30 years old
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Okay, that makes sense.  I think I've got it now.
[02:50] <polpak> tonyyarusso, cause you wouldn't want all those colors mucking up your syntax if you were doing ls | xargs rm
[02:51] <Noside> so does anyone knows??
[02:51] <Noside>  is there a way to configure your network bandwith?
[02:51] <rabe> hullo, i g followed a LOT of guides (for ex. https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) and still, my ATI drivers are not installed properly, instead, it uses "MESA GLX Indirect", I don't have any 3d acceleration!?
[02:51] <polpak> tonyyarusso, so you explicitly tell it to use columns and colors because you know that ultimately the output will be to the terminal even if it's not (directly from ls)
[02:52] <polpak> rabe, what video card do you have?
[02:52] <rabe> ati radeon 9800XT
[02:52] <polpak> rabe, drat, sorry I have to run. someone else should be able help though
[02:52] <rabe> ok, have a nice evening
[02:53] <rabe> anyone?
[02:53] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  This better?  (MrKubuntuUser)
[02:53] <nickrud> Veronica, I was gone for a bit, did you see the bit about sysv-rc-conf?
[02:53] <Veronica> lampshade: The package "samba" itself?
[02:54] <lampshade> Veronica, , ummm not sure in this case usually for fileshaing yeah you just need samba, but I'm not sure what you need for ICS.
[02:54] <Veronica> polpak: so try changing Ubuntu's file system, so those partitions won't sure since it's just the drive lettters, but now.
[02:54] <nickrud> VideoToaster, I was just looking for you. I saw that you had success with the options in the modprobe.d dir, any more info?
[02:54] <VideoToaster> jinho326:  Everything running OK with the dual-boot setup?
[02:54] <s|k> what's the make clean command?
[02:55] <shrewduser> can APT install things from CVS alla emerge?
[02:55] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  I can't try out DMA yet, but assuming it pays attention to the DMA specification in modprobe.d, I just might have my problem fixed
[02:55] <nickrud> shrewduser, no, no such luck in general.
[02:55] <shrewduser> damn...
[02:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s|k: I cleans up after the 'make' command... gets rid of temp files, .o files, stuff like that.
[02:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It
[02:56] <nickrud> VideoToaster, cool (not least that my first look at the change in module handling wasn't totally out to lunch)
[02:57] <nickrud> shrewduser, however, a number of people use checkinstall to do the final installation of a cvs checkout as a deb
[02:57] <rabe> I followed a LOT of guides (for ex. https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) and still, my ATI drivers are not installed properly, instead, it uses "MESA GLX Indirect", I don't have any 3d acceleration!?
[02:57] <darx> hi guys
[02:57] <darx> need help with java install
[02:57] <shrewduser> ta nickrus
[02:57] <shrewduser> ta nickrud ***
[02:57] <slavik> darx: what's the problem?
[02:57] <arrick> shrewduser, did you mean rustynic?
[02:57] <slavik> darx: did you follow Sun's instructions on the manual install??
[02:57] <darx> i get the following error
[02:58] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  Yeah, thanks for telling me about that!  I tried specifying a DMA value in the virtual machine, but Kubuntu ignored it... I don't think Virtual PC supports DMA
[02:58] <darx> darx@darx:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install fakeroot jave-package java-common
[02:58] <darx> Reading package lists... Done
[02:58] <darx> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:58] <darx> E: Couldn't find package jave-package
[02:58] <darx> i was following the wiki
[02:58] <slavik> darx: first off, use pastebin please
[02:58] <darx> what is that i'm a complete noob
[02:58] <mauper> darx: second: jave sound like it should be java ;)
[02:58] <slavik> second, you mispelled java in 'jave-package'
[02:58] <Veronica> nickrud: Aaah, here we go!  This one's wonderful.
[02:58] <Veronica> i was following the wiki
[02:59] <darx> sorry
[02:59] <darx> i'm a windoze zombie
[02:59] <Noside> lol
[02:59] <mauper> Any chances that sun might allow packaging java for ubuntu ? (like they did for bsd ?)
[02:59] <nickrud> VideoToaster, Virtual PC, if I knew you were using that I'd've handled you with tongs ;P
[02:59] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  I'm sorry!  That's all I've got!
[03:00] <Veronica> ompaul, so you think automatix may be the source of my problem?
[03:00] <Veronica> Der_Richter: don't the whip to work on small kubuntu-desktop and the whip to open source. Which i personally think is good... if i can find useful libs to open source. Which i personally think is good... if i can just sudo apt-get everythink is good... if i can i start think you'd have with.
[03:00] <nickrud> VideoToaster, lol,
[03:00] <p03t1c> does the next release of ubuntu come out next month?
[03:00] <nickrud> p03t1c, june 1
[03:00] <darx> problem solved i guess
[03:00] <darx> he he he
[03:00] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  Better than waiting to try everything on the real computer... I tried VMware player and it installed all kinds of extra network stuff that I didn't like
[03:01] <mandywilhelm> hello, i have a problem with my mozilla, i made a dist-upgrade and since then i cannot see a thing displayed in the mozilla browser, other than dashes and the google symbol
[03:01] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  If you find a VMware Player file for Ubuntu, you could use that... that's free
[03:01] <rabe> I followed a LOT of guides (for ex. https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) and still, my ATI drivers are not installed properly, instead, it uses "MESA GLX Indirect", I don't have any 3d acceleration!?
[03:01] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  but that wasn't out when I got Virtual PC (which was cheaper than VMware, too...)
[03:01] <Noside> but did u try using synaptic???
[03:02] <p03t1c> thanks nickrud
[03:02] <slavik> rabe: did you download the .bin or the .run file from ati.com?
[03:02] <nickrud> VideoToaster, I hear that will be free soon, I may corrupt myself
[03:02] <lampshade> Anyone know about DMA on cdrom drives?  My question is in regards to hdparm,  it doesn't say DMA on or off, but I do think my drive is slower than it should be  anyway I can check to see what is being used?
[03:02] <YellowTeeth> hello
[03:02] <LathropWells> mandywilhelm, - could it be a problem with the default language choice in mozilla and fonts?
[03:02] <Veronica> i think it into the .sh content to work with.
[03:02] <YellowTeeth> i'm having trouble sending files through gaim anyone know the problem
[03:02] <fiendskull9> hey
[03:02] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  VMware Player is already free.  You can't make new virtual machines in it, but you can download virtual machines from other places.
[03:02] <fiendskull9> i installed Msoft core fonts, where are they?
[03:02] <mauper> YellowTeeth: firewall ?
[03:03] <slavik> whoever needed help with the ati driver
[03:03] <YellowTeeth> how can i change the settings
[03:03] <josh__> does anyone know if it is possible to download the ubuntulooks theme to use on breezy?
[03:03] <mandywilhelm> for what should i look for...
[03:03] <fiendskull9> josh__, its on the forums, gimme a sec
[03:03] <slavik> download the driver from ati.com and in terminal run "file-from-at.run --help"
[03:03] <wil_> darx had java problems at first too then went through  system -administration -synaptic package manager and followed directions
[03:03] <Veronica> shrewduser, no clue what the option magic
[03:03] <josh__> ok, thanks
[03:03] <YellowTeeth> mauper: how can i change the settings
[03:04] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  and the most important reason I got Virt
[03:04] <Noside> try using sudo
[03:04] <VideoToaster> ual PC:  It supports OS/2.  :D
[03:04] <nickrud> VideoToaster, 0_o Old schooler, you are
[03:04] <LathropWells> josh - If you enable "show hidden folders" in nautilus you can place your new them in the .themes folder.
[03:04] <mauper> YellowTeeth: which settings ? If either you or your peer uses a firewall, the firewall has to be configured to allow a file transfer
[03:04] <mandywilhelm> LathropWells  for what should i lok for
[03:05] <YellowTeeth> ah
[03:05] <mauper> YellowTeeth: then again: icq seems to be completely broken ...
[03:05] <YellowTeeth> i havent set up my firewall and my peer does not have one
[03:05] <YellowTeeth> im using aim servers
[03:05] <nickrud> VideoToaster, that os florished when I wasn't using computers much, but I hear nice things about that orphaned thing.
[03:07] <VideoToaster> nickrud:  Yes... It's quite obsolete now, but I needed to convert some old IBM Works documents from when I used to use OS/2, and Virtual PC was perfect for that (you can share Windows folders with OS/2 using Virtual PC Additions)
[03:07] <mauper> YellowTeeth: no idea then ...
[03:07] <Edison> hi everyone
[03:07] <rabe> slavik: the .run
[03:07] <Edison> is there a way to set up your network bandwith???
[03:07] <slavik> rabe: ok
[03:08] <slavik> rabe, open a terminal and go to the dir where the file is stored
[03:08] <rabe> ok
[03:08] <slavik> rabe: I am telling you how I got mine to work btw ...
[03:08] <rabe> but i did all the instructions on the wiki
[03:08] <rabe> ok
[03:08] <Edison> i mean your network settings?
[03:08] <rabe> hehe
[03:09] <Edison> to set up i higher speed
[03:09] <Edison> ?
[03:09] <slavik> rabe: now, run the file with '--help' parameter
[03:09] <slavik> PM me the output
[03:09] <slavik> rabe: what's your screen resolution?
[03:10] <rabe> 1280x1024
[03:10] <Edison> anyone???
[03:10] <nickrud> Edison, your question is kinda vague, I have generally got the bandwidth my provider provides
[03:10] <slavik> oh, rabe, nvm then
[03:10] <slavik> rabe, run the file
[03:10] <slavik> it will start a GUI installer
[03:10] <slavik> tell it to create a distribution package
[03:10] <slavik> not to install the driver
[03:10] <Edison> yeah, but your network card let u configure ur speed
[03:10] <slavik> then chooe breezy/5.10 or ubuntu/5.10 ... then one with 5.10 in it
[03:11] <slavik> and continue on
[03:11] <slavik> it will create a dep file
[03:11] <rabe> slavik: how do exactly mean?
[03:11] <slavik> then use dpkg -i to install it
[03:11] <slavik> rabe: double click on it to run it
[03:11] <Edison> i think i change that setting but now i cant remember where to change it again
[03:11] <slavik> if it doesn't run, go into terminal and do chmod +x file-from-ati.run
[03:12] <slavik> Edison: which setting?
[03:12] <Edison> cause it was set up to work with 10 mps and i set it up to 256 kbps
[03:12] <Edison> my lan setting
[03:12] <rabe> slavik: i got the .run file now, what should i do?
[03:12] <slavik> oh, no clue
[03:12] <slavik> rabe: doubleclick it
[03:13] <jadaz87> hello guys this command: chroot mnt dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size;10} ${Package}\n' | sort -gr | less        gives this error chroot: cannot change root directory to mnt: Operation not permitted
[03:13] <prayforwind> Good evening. Can anyone point me to doc's that describe alsa config for CS4237b?
[03:13] <jadaz87> i was wonder why that is?
[03:13] <nickrud> jadaz87, sudo
[03:13] <nickrud> jadaz87, chroot requires admin privs, so use sudo
[03:14] <rabe> slavik: it can not open it
[03:15] <lampshade> one of my devices is listed at UDMA 33 while the other is at 100, What does that mean?
[03:16] <slavik> rabe: what's the error?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> jenda: ping?
[03:18] <rabe> slavik: should i execute it?
[03:18] <slavik> yes
[03:18] <tRSS> quick question: i have curl, wget, sed installated and using pipes, i want to be able to download pdf files from a few sites. these sites have documentations (as pdfs) of our company. instead of downloading each and every document individually, i just want to harness the power of linux to make my work easier, so need some help from you folks!
[03:18] <rabe> ok
[03:18] <tRSS> how can I do it?
[03:19] <rabe> slavik: i get this: you need to run installer as superuser
[03:19] <slavik> tRSS: use perl :)
[03:19] <tRSS> slavik: don't know perl that well! :(
[03:19] <slavik> rabe: I don't remember what exactly I did to insta;;
[03:19] <rabe> slavik: "chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86.run "
[03:19] <rabe> does open it
[03:19] <slavik> rabe: right
[03:20] <slavik> good
[03:20] <gnu2it2> are /dev, /proc, /sys should all be emptey on a bootable drive that wasnt booted?
[03:20] <slavik> tRSS: the site is html?
[03:20] <rabe> ishould i now install deb packages, slavik?
[03:20] <nickrud> gnu2it2, yes
[03:20] <slavik> gnu2it2: sounds like a reasonable assumption
[03:20] <gnu2it2> thnaks
[03:20] <slavik> rabe: using dpkg
[03:20] <rabe> sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.24.8-1_i386.deb"?
[03:20] <tRSS> slavik: it is html
[03:20] <slavik> bingo!
[03:21] <tRSS> slavik: to be exact, it htm
[03:21] <Steil> Does anyone know a program that will edit pdf or postscript files?
[03:21] <nomasteryoda> scribus
[03:21] <slavik> tRSS: once you load a file into a variable: open $in, "index.html |" or die$!;
[03:21] <CokeNCode> how do you unzip a file that is in bz2 format ?
[03:21] <ariel> hi all, i need some help with GDM
[03:21] <slavik> you can parse it and extract all the pdf links ...
[03:22] <tRSS> slavik: you lost me there :'(
[03:22] <nickrud> nomasteryoda, that was an answer to Steil ? (looking for the same answer)
[03:22] <nomasteryoda> Steil, pdf2html
[03:22] <ice60> hi, has anyone here used Nagios?
[03:22] <tRSS> slavik: hold on, don't tell me yet, let me try again on my own and see if I can do it
[03:22] <nomasteryoda> nickrud, worth a try
[03:23] <tRSS> slavik: if i can't, i know whom to look for! :)
[03:23] <nickrud> lol, I've tried a lot, what's one more thing :)
[03:23] <Veronica> tonyyarusso, ok, the kernel invocation for that still wont work.
[03:23] <nomasteryoda> google uses pdf2html for the view as HTML links for pdfs
[03:23] <ariel> i don't know why, but when i try to close session in gnome, it send me to GDM and when i click on Action->Shutdown it ask for root password, when i enter the password of my user (like sudo) it says that the password is incorrect
[03:23] <terry_> que onda vatos....
[03:23] <slavik> tRSS: the pdfs are all on the same html page?
[03:23] <slavik> or do you need to traverse the site?
[03:23] <Steil> nomasteryoda: will scribus just import the file into its native format?
[03:23] <tRSS> they are all on the same page
[03:23] <slavik> tRSS: what company is this btw? (your company)
[03:23] <tRSS> slavik: yes sir
[03:24] <slavik> oh, easy ... then wget it and use a perl script
[03:24] <ariel> please help :{
[03:24] <nomasteryoda> Steil, just sec
[03:25] <mavric2001> anyone know how i would go about installing vmware-player on ubuntu breezy?
[03:25] <tRSS> slavik: i thought curl can download the htm content of the webpage, and I can somehow parse it to extract the pdf links, doing a stdout to wget, using pipes somehow. I understand what to do, just don't know how to do it
[03:25] <slavik> ariel: state your problem ... oryou will sit here for all eternity
[03:25] <mauper> tRSS: wget -r -l1 -A pdf
[03:25] <ariel> slavik, id did it, can we talk?
[03:26] <mauper> tRSS: where l(numba) is the depth of the recursion, try 1 first ... :)
[03:26] <slavik> ariel, interesting problem
[03:26] <tRSS> mauper: thanks, let me try it
[03:26] <slavik> ariel: how do you close a session in gnome?
[03:26] <rabe> if someone can tell me how to play 5.1 sound, i would be very satisfied, since nothing i tried worked
[03:26] <slavik> by logging out?
[03:26] <rabe> slavik: it did still not work with ATI
[03:26] <Joetheodd> How do you play a WMV in Linux?
[03:26] <ariel> slavik, like always... System->Logout
[03:26] <mavric2001> trying to install vmware player on ubuntu, ran the ./configure command terminal says command not found, any ideas?
[03:27] <Stormx2> mavric2001: In the right directory?
[03:27] <slavik> rabe: after you use the dep file, you have to change your xorg.config
[03:27] <mavric2001> yes i am
[03:27] <slavik> ariel: open a terminal
[03:27] <ariel> mavric2001, are you sure that the configure script is on the same directory?
[03:27] <nickrud> mavric2001, does ls configure show a configure existing
[03:27] <mavric2001> lemme check
[03:27] <ariel> slavik, open
[03:27] <rabe> slavik so how to change it so that it uses the new drivers?
[03:28] <slavik> rabe: sudo gedit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ... or whatever the conf file is
[03:28] <slavik> hold, letme get mine
[03:28] <slavik> ariel: do "sudo echo Hello"
[03:28] <tRSS> mauper: this is working like a charm so far.. thank you so much :)
[03:28] <slavik> it should ask you for your password
[03:28] <slavik> try it
[03:28] <rabe> i did
[03:28] <rabe> and then?
[03:28] <rabe> i opened it
[03:28] <ariel> slavik, it work with the same user password
[03:28] <slavik> rabe: 1sec
[03:29] <rabe> ok
[03:29] <ariel> but i dont know why it doesnt whe i use gdm
[03:29] <mavric2001> ariel i dont see the config file
[03:29] <mauper> tRSS: np ... but be aware that every hoster will hate you for it ;) - look for options to limit bandwidth/timing :)
[03:29] <suspect_> hi
[03:29] <ariel> mavric2001, try to locate the configure script of vmware
[03:29] <suspect_> i dont play cod anymore
[03:29] <suspect_> = )
[03:29] <mavric2001> bin, doc, etc, installer, lib
[03:29] <slavik> ariel: no clue
[03:30] <slavik> ariel: it should shutdown the system without asking for a pass I think
[03:30] <nickrud> mavric2001, sudo updatedb && locate configure , it'll be one of those
[03:30] <slavik> rabe: scroll all the way down
[03:30] <venin> cheers..
[03:30] <VideoToaster> Every time I boot up Ubuntu, I see "ACPI:  Unable to locate RSDP".  What does that mean?  Is it a problem?
[03:30] <rabe> slavik: ok
[03:30] <ariel> i think the same
[03:30] <calx> cod2?
[03:30] <venin> the audio in mplayer lags alot when playing music files.. any ideas? im using alsa as audio output
[03:30] <slavik> then scroll up, you will see some definitions of modes (resolution and depth)
[03:30] <slavik> above those there will be a section for the video card
[03:31] <mimilya_86> hai
[03:31] <ariel> slavik, you know how to remove the password of root user, not sudo user
[03:31] <mavric2001> vmware-config.pl?
[03:31] <XhyldazhK> hi all
[03:31] <XhyldazhK> where is the default directory for deafult mimetype icons?
[03:31] <slavik> ariel: there is no root user on ubuntu
[03:31] <XhyldazhK> in GNOME?
[03:31] <rabe> slavik: Section "Device" you mean?
[03:31] <slavik> unless you went against that
[03:31] <mavric2001> using the sudo command
[03:31] <slavik> rabe yes
[03:31] <rabe> ok, what to do there?
[03:31] <ariel> i know, is not my machine, but maybe they set a root password
[03:31] <XhyldazhK> because I lost all my icons where uninstalled a checkinstall deb
[03:31] <slavik> where it said driver, what is in quotes?
[03:32] <XhyldazhK> please HELP meee
[03:32] <rabe> Driver      "fglrx"
[03:32] <slavik> rabe: looks like it is set to load the proper driver, restart the X server.
[03:32] <mavric2001> cant believe vmware doesnt provide some rudimentary directions for install on linux
[03:32] <slavik> or reboot your system
[03:32] <rabe> i did :-)
[03:32] <slavik> the do glxinfo | grep direct
[03:32] <slavik> and it should give you a line that says "Direct Rendering: Yes"
[03:33] <slavik> oh, ok
[03:33] <nickrud> XhyldazhK, try System->Preferences->Themes, button Theme Details, Tab icons: choose one there, it should reset them
[03:33] <slavik> after installing the deb?
[03:33] <rabe> direct rendering: no
[03:33] <XhyldazhK> after uninstalling it
[03:33] <slavik> hmm, then it is not using the driver
[03:33] <arrick> why do people ask you to join private chat rooms, then start playing games with you?  One should work.
[03:35] <arrick> nickrud, yeah I just kick banned him, I dont like messing around like that, but if thats what it takes
[03:35] <slavik> what error?
[03:35] <slavik> rabe: you also want to select the vesa driver, not the ati one
[03:35] <Red-Bull> heya
[03:35] <schtinky> anybody had any luck getting the CRT out on a dell laptop working?
[03:35] <arrick> nickrud, his name is {myp} in here
[03:35] <nickrud> the perils of being a channel op :)
[03:36] <nomasteryoda> pdf editing... flpsed .. it's in the apt repos too
[03:36] <XhyldazhK> nickrud: my default icons dissapeared, they were erased, i need to reinstall them, but i don't know which package is
[03:36] <slavik> tRSS: did that command for wget work for you?