[08:44] <bobstro> _Codeman_:  some stuff can be done in System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:44] <Skizzle> Or any one know how to adjust monitor settings from terminal?
[08:44] <Gerro> Skizzle: ah yeah configure your xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[08:44] <root__> sfsfsfs
[08:44] <root__> gggggggggg
[08:45] <Skizzle> uh... im not sure what that means gerro
[08:45] <root__> dfsfsdfsdfsdfsfsfsdfsdfsdfsdfsafsdfsdfsfsdfsdfsdfsfsdfsfsfsfs
[08:45] <Gerro> Skizzle: edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:45] <_Codeman_> no preferences
[08:46] <orbin> !fixres > Skizzle (read pm from ubotu.  had a look at that yet?)
[08:46] <Ta1> I'm having joystick calibration problems.. was working fine with Cedega for Madden for a week.. suddenly it is like the joystick is pressing upwards... calibrated perfect.. no change in Madden ??
[08:46] <Noonan> hi,im about to instal ubuntu. and i put in the liveCD and i dont have an internet connection. im using a wireless pci card. any ideas on how i can get it to work?
[08:47] <Noonan> cause i dont want to install ubuntu and then not be able to get an active internet connection
[08:47] <Gerro> Tal: try wiggling it around and doing a reboot?
[08:47] <barata> highvoltage, I need to cut a chunk of mp3 into pieces .... what is the best linux tool for that?
[08:47] <_Codeman_> bobstro: No Preferences in System
[08:47] <Gerro> Noonan: install doesn't require internet but it helps so you can use more software
[08:47] <idefixx> Noonan: wireless can be tricky.
[08:47] <Ta1> Gerro: I did both to no effect.... tried unplugging and replugging also
[08:47] <idefixx> !ndiswrapper | Noonan
[08:47] <ubotu> Noonan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:48] <bobstro> _Codeman_:  you're in gnome?
[08:48] <_Codeman_> xfce
[08:48] <bobstro> _Codeman_:  oh, sorry.
[08:48] <bobstro> missed that bit.
[08:48] <_Codeman_> np :D
[08:48] <orbin> Noonan: identify what wireless card/chipset you have first.
[08:48] <lutenedm> I got my printer working in Ubuntu, but now I can't print in Windows (I have a dual boot), has anyone else ever experienced this?
[08:48] <idefixx> Noonan: take a lock at what wireless cards work well with ubuntu and check if yours is one of them in that case it should be easy.
[08:49] <imbecile> hey guys, how do i fing the icons for different programs? im trying to set up a launcher
[08:49] <barata> highvoltage, I need to cut a chunk of mp3 into pieces .... what is the best linux tool for that?
[08:49] <bobstro> imbecile:  many under /usr/share/icon
[08:49] <barata> funny, I didnt type 'highvolate'
[08:49] <bobstro> er icons
[08:50] <imbecile> bobstro,  thanks
[08:50] <lutenedm> I got my Samsung ML-2010 printer to work in Ubuntu, but that made it stop working in Windows.  Does anyone know how to fix that?
[08:52] <benanzo> anyone know anything about EFI + ELILO on an Apple MacBook?
[08:54] <cbs> can someone help me out with a WINE issue?
[08:54] <orbin> barata: you pressed tab - caused a nick complete.  tried mp3splt?
[08:54] <zie> aanyone heard of Record My Desktop
[08:55] <zie> wine
[08:55] <zie> i can help
[08:55] <cbs> zie: Hi :)
[08:55] <zie> cbs: I can help
[08:55] <cbs> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[08:55] <cbs> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[08:55] <zie> cbs: what seems to be the problem
[08:56] <lkthomas> guys
[08:56] <cbs> im getting that error trying to run most apps thru wine, i think im missing some kind of lib or something
[08:56] <lkthomas> does KDE got something like gdesklet ?
[08:56] <mlyon> help I keep getting a segmentation fault when i run WindozeXPpro in an Innotek Virtual box. I followed the directions in this thread :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=433359&highlight=home+networking
[08:56] <crdlb> lkthomas: superkaramba
[08:56] <zie> cbs: did you check that $DISPLAY WAS SET correctly
[08:57] <lkthomas> crdlb, thanks
[08:57] <cbs> im not sure where to edit it
[08:57] <neblux> hi all
[08:57] <zie> ok open displat
[08:57] <zie> ok open display
[08:57] <benanzo> anyone know anything about EFI + ELILO on an Apple MacBook?
[08:58] <cbs> display command or display in ubuntu
[08:58] <ubuntubeginz> hi...guys.. when i install Ubuntu, i didnt created partition for swap space...how can i create it now...or do i haf install Ubuntu all over again..
[08:58] <zie> command
[08:58] <crdlb> !swap
[08:58] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[08:58] <crdlb> ubuntubeginz: you can make a swap file on your hard drive, see ^^
[08:58] <cbs> zie: ok i did: open display
[08:58] <densin> apt-build can make deb package ?
[08:59] <zie> do you know what too look for
[08:59] <zie> or should i tell you
[08:59] <cbs> well, it didnt do anyhting, just returned a new line
[08:59] <ubuntubeginz> thanks ubotu.. i think the guide shld be enuff for me...
[08:59] <zie> ok type apt-get wine
[08:59] <neblux> anyone can help me to fix this --------dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0050' near line 1: newline in field name `padding'
[09:00] <cbs> invalid operation
[09:00] <zie> actually type wine
[09:00] <zie> should list some options
[09:00] <cbs> wine help/exit
[09:00] <cbs> nothing else
[09:01] <zie> hmm
[09:01] <zie> it should display more, i think maybe you should install wine again
[09:01] <webguy48> hay there
[09:01] <cbs> ok
[09:01] <cbs> should I do it thru ubuntu or download the from wine site?
[09:01] <zie> if you typed wine, it should display some options, its liklly your settings for wine are messed up
[09:02] <zie> ubuntu i can help
[09:02] <zie> just a second
[09:02] <_Codeman_> do I have to uninstall xubuntu to change from xfce to gnome or kde?
[09:02] <zie> go ahead and remove wine
[09:02] <crdlb> _Codeman_: no
[09:03] <crdlb> _Codeman_: just install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[09:03] <crdlb> then you can choose them at the login screen
[09:03] <_Codeman_> crdlb: gotcha, thanks :D
[09:03] <cbs> ok in uninst
[09:04] <cbs> reinst?
[09:04] <webguy48> anyone use the nero linux version yet? is it good for iso's etc?
[09:04] <zie> just uninstall wine
[09:04] <cbs> i did
[09:04] <cbs> should I reinstall it now
[09:04] <sanityx> webguy48, Its great!
[09:04] <sanityx> webguy48, But its obviously not open source
[09:05] <zie> open Applications/ Add or Remove
[09:05] <zie> this will list abunch of programs allowed for you to download in linux
[09:05] <zie> Type Wine In the search box
[09:05] <webguy48> kool - i have tried kb3 and it's ok - but still weening off windoze ya know... ;o)
[09:05] <cbs> zie: its been uninstalled for about 5 min
[09:05] <cbs> what next?
[09:06] <zie> open Applications/ Add or Remove
[09:06] <zie> this will list abunch of programs allowed for you to download in linux
[09:06] <zie> Type Wine In the search box
[09:06] <webguy48> yea it's only 19.99 though - not too bad thats us dollars
[09:06] <cbs> i think im lagging
[09:06] <zie> lol ok just wait
[09:06] <cbs> zie: read up...i already uninstalled
[09:06] <cbs> should I reinstall it?
[09:07] <zie> yes
[09:07] <webguy48> sanityx - have you run nero on the kunbuntu kde or the unbuntu gnome?
[09:08] <sanityx> webguy48, ubuntu but it should be fine on either
[09:08] <nalleman> hi, just installed xubuntu and it works great, exept for one thing. my (extern) cdrom stoped working, its no big deal if it wasnt for that the computer asks for the cd when I intent to install programs from internet, is it possible to get over this problem?
[09:09] <cbs> ok reinstalled
[09:09] <zie> ok open it
[09:09] <ubuntubeginz> hi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq.... i haf read this article..on how to add swap space..and they say u can onli add swap files...i jus wanna knoe if it still possible to create swap parition or not..after installing ubuntu
[09:09] <cbs> open wine...?
[09:09] <webguy48> yea - i'm new back to linux - it's been an off/on relationship for over 3yrs - but really like kubuntu
[09:09] <orbin> nalleman: check that the cd is not in your repository list
[09:09] <zie> yes
[09:09] <DARKGuy> ubuntubeginz: yes, with gparted
[09:09] <nalleman> orbin: hoe?
[09:10] <nalleman> how
[09:10] <nalleman> ...
[09:10] <drif> nalleman: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list - comment (#) the line deb cdrom:...
[09:10] <dan1> hi man~~~~~~
[09:10] <webguy48> really like to totally quit windoze - tired of all the security issues etc etc etc
[09:10] <zie> lol yes
[09:10] <benbeltran> heh
[09:10] <nalleman> drif: thanx
[09:10] <zie> i use a ps/2 try that webduy
[09:10] <neblux> anyone can help me to fix this mess dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0050' near line 1: newline in field name `padding'
[09:10] <Bo0m> greetings,am tryin to download ununtu installer cd.am i right in sayin all i have to download is one iso image?thanks
[09:10] <zie> i use a ps/2 try that webguy
[09:10] <vladkao> not that linux doesn't have security issues..
[09:10] <ubuntubeginz> DarkGuy: i actually have acrionix in windows, can i use that...
[09:11] <drif> nalleman: remember to apt-get update after that
[09:11] <webguy48> sanityx thx for tip
[09:11] <orbin> Bo0m: yes.
[09:11] <Akuma_> where can i get an official feisty torrent file? i can't seem to find any on the download page
[09:11] <sanityx> webguy48, np
[09:11] <DARKGuy> ubuntubeginz: No idea, I don't think so... never used it. I know you can do with gparted under ubuntu
[09:11] <Bo0m> orbin:Thanks :)
[09:11] <orbin> neblux: what causes that?
[09:12] <orbin> s/causes/triggers
[09:12] <ubuntubeginz> DarkGuy: so this partitions the ubuntu drive ...onli.. i reckon...
[09:12] <webguy48> hay what do u mean a ps/2?
[09:12] <DARKGuy> ubuntubeginz: because, if I'm not mistaken, a swap partition must be added to the Linux system inside itself.. I dunno if it can detect them all at boot, so
[09:12] <Akuma_> found it
[09:12] <Ademan> webguy48: it's a circular plug
[09:12] <Ademan> for older mice and keyboards
[09:12] <DARKGuy> ubuntubeginz: well, I *think* you can resize your ubuntu partition to leave some space for the swap one, I dunno how though
[09:12] <Ademan> heck, all of my keyboards are ps/2
[09:13] <neblux> orbin i don't know when i am trying to update it shows me the dpkg error
[09:13] <orbin> Akuma_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[09:13] <webguy48> yea
[09:13] <DARKGuy> hey, ps/2 rocks xD
[09:13] <ubuntubeginz> DarkGuy: yeah,man...dats exactly wat i wanna do...
[09:13] <Madpilot> Akuma_, http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ -- look for the .torrent files
[09:13] <crdlb> ubuntubeginz: you do not have to repartition to make swap
[09:13] <neblux> orin-----E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:13] <zie> an omniView 4 port, it can actually run 4 computers at once, and switch back and fourth beetween them
[09:14] <crdlb> you can make a file on your ubuntu partition and use it as swap
[09:14] <DARKGuy> ubuntubeginz: well, I'm running a heavy task on my system right now (it even lags when typing x_x) but try looking for "resizing ext3 partitions" or something around those lines
[09:14] <orbin> neblux: try running the command it says.  if that doesn't work, double check your sources
[09:14] <zie> i run Linux/MacMini/Windows
[09:14] <ubuntubeginz> cdrlb: as darkguy mentioned, i wanna rezise my ubuntu partition to create a swap partition.
[09:14] <Akuma_> orbin: Madpilot: thanks
[09:14] <crdlb> ubuntubeginz: but you don't need to
[09:14] <ubuntubeginz> DarkGuy: thanks for the input
[09:14] <DARKGuy> ubuntubeginz: then you could create a swap parittion in the free space - you could do what crdlb says too
[09:14] <DARKGuy> ubuntubeginz: welcome
[09:14] <wtfcriminal> i have the image but when i burn the cd it gives eroor when i verify.. any suggestion
[09:15] <neblux> orini--i did what it say and its how me the errore which i post it earlier ....this .....dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0050' near line 1: newline in field name `padding'
[09:15] <neblux> show*
[09:15] <ubuntubeginz> Darkguy,crdlb: not left with much free space..for linux... man.. thats why wanna resize my current ubntu parition
[09:15] <cbs> ok, one of the apps works now
[09:15] <cbs> ill have to test the rest too
[09:15] <cbs> somehting must have been broken
[09:16] <cbs> thanks zie
[09:16] <crdlb> ubuntubeginz: well backup all you data before doing it
[09:16] <wtfcriminal> when i verify CD it shows some i/o error on cd
[09:16] <crdlb> and you can use the gparted livecd
[09:16] <DARKGuy> hm, good idea
[09:16] <orbin> neblux: type orb, then press tab to get my nick right.  otherwise i miss what you're saying.
[09:16] <ubuntubeginz> crdlb: :) ...newly installed system..not much data or any data to backup
[09:17] <neblux> orbin: thanks
[09:17] <wtfcriminal> any suggestioin ??
[09:17] <zcat[1] > moof?
[09:17] <rizza> preseed experience anyone?
[09:17] <ubuntubeginz> crdlb,darkguy: k, thanks guys..will install gparted livecd and try it..
[09:18] <neblux> orbin: SO any idea how to fix it
[09:18] <Bo0m> http://mirror.in.th/ubuntu/kubuntu/feisty/ : can I download any iso image from it? thanks.
[09:18] <DARKGuy> ubuntubeginz: good luck! :D
[09:18] <_Codeman_> I don't suppose dev's visit here often, huh?
[09:18] <DARKGuy> I wonder, does the generic kernel takes advantage of my P4 intel hyperthreading capability?
[09:19] <cbs> i heard its not reccomended to use WINE for gaming, but all my games run twice as fast under ubuntu compared to xp :P
[09:19] <cbs> probably not, i would think just x86 functions
[09:19] <rizza> if generic is i686 it should
[09:19] <Bo0m> whats the difference between alternate and desktop-amd image?
[09:19] <orbin> neblux: not really :-/  first time i've heard of that error output.
[09:19] <DARKGuy> generic is some kind of kernel merging they did in 6.10 o.O
[09:19] <neblux> orbin: got ya bro thanks for trying tho
[09:19] <orbin> neblux: have you been doing anything with packages lately? or do you just stick with synaptic/apt-get
[09:20] <DARKGuy> cbs: cool xD.. quake4 native in opengl somehow runs with less jerkyness than in windows in directx... crazy huh
[09:20] <Bo0m> umnn am downlodin 7.04 desktop-i386 guys.hops its the right one.
[09:21] <orbin> Bo0m: alternate uses a text based installer
[09:21] <Bo0m> thanks. u guys are great help to peepz like me!
[09:21] <tuskernini> HOW do i access my SSH server openssh-server from outside of my home network
[09:21] <Bo0m> oh k. am sure i cant install using text based installer..
[09:21] <cbs> dark: not at all suprising...
[09:21] <neblux> orbin: yeah i was checking if my card support for berly
[09:21] <cbs> most we hear about linux is competitor BS i bet :P
[09:22] <orbin> neblux: did you install anything with dpkg.  stuff like that?
[09:22] <DARKGuy> cbs: sometimes :P
[09:22] <bobstro> tuskernini:  you have a router?
[09:22] <pheaver> how do i make apt-get execute something (such as playing a sound file) when it finishes installing anything?
[09:23] <tuskernini> bobstro: yes is that bad?
[09:23] <neblux> orbin: i am not sure but i think have installed nvidia-glx
[09:23] <bobstro> tuskernini:  no, not at all. you just need to set up port forwarding to send the appropriate port to your linux box.
[09:23] <DARKGuy> pheaver: what about... "apt-get install whatever && play sound.wav" ? I dunno about play, I think that command comes with ubuntu, dunno xD
[09:23] <tuskernini> bobstro: i once ran a lamp server behind the router and it seemed to work...
[09:23] <yharrow> I accidentally over wrote /dev/dsp
[09:23] <yharrow> what do I do?
[09:23] <Myrtti> pheaver, DARKGuy: aplay should
[09:24] <bobstro> tuskernini:  it should work fine, so long as the ports are allowed through.
[09:24] <tuskernini> bobstro: ok.. so i have to set up forwarding port 22'
[09:24] <yharrow> should I delete /dev/dsp altogether?
[09:24] <DARKGuy> Myrtti: thanks :p
[09:24] <pheaver> DARKGuy yes, that will work for this particular case
[09:24] <pheaver> but I'm really looking for more sophisticated "hooks"
[09:24] <DARKGuy> pheaver: hm, what about an alias ?
[09:25] <bobstro> tuskernini:  usually, but you might use a non-default port too, to avoid unwanted attention.
[09:25] <pheaver> DARKGuy no, a hook, which executes upon completion of any install, regardless of which interface i use
[09:25] <RAOF> eh, just use public-key authentication exclusively.
[09:25] <pheaver> the hook should execute if i install with apt-get, or adept_manager, or synaptic, or anything
[09:25] <bobstro> or both
[09:25] <tuskernini> bobstro: aha.. then i connect as ssh user@sserver_ip:port?
[09:25] <bobstro> tuskernini:  ssh -p <port> user@server
[09:26] <tuskernini> bobstro: ah thanks a million trying it soon
[09:26] <DARKGuy> pheaver: try making a script that checks for a file that apt-get or any other package manager should edit upon completing an install? I dunno how but it's an idea xD
[09:26] <pheaver> yikes
[09:26] <pheaver> so, basically, ubuntu's package manager doesn't have a hook system?
[09:26] <yharrow> do I even need /dev/dsp on my computer?
[09:26] <orbin> neblux: i don't seem to have the file /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0050 ...
[09:26] <DARKGuy> pheaver: no idea o.o;
[09:26] <pheaver> :(
[09:26] <pheaver> thanks though, i'll look into it
[09:26] <RAOF> pheaver: I think it does, but I've never investigated it.
[09:27] <pheaver> RAOF: yeah, I thought I had used it for something once before
[09:27] <DARKGuy> pheaver: welcome and good luck :p
[09:27] <RAOF> pbuilder certainly has a hook system.
[09:27] <pheaver> hmm...
[09:27] <bobstro> yharrow:  it's tied to audio, but i'm not sure if it gets re-created on boot or not.
[09:27] <pheaver> how many interfaces and alternatives are there to the ubuntu package manager?
[09:27] <kevev> hello all
[09:28] <crdlb> pheaver: yeah it does, there's a hook to run prelink after installing anything
[09:28] <kevev> need help with my sound
[09:28] <crdlb> that I used once
[09:28] <pheaver> crdlb: yes, that's what i remember working with once
[09:28] <RAOF> pheaver: Off the top of my head: apt-get, aptitude, add/remove, synaptic, adept, smart
[09:28] <kevev> ATI SB450
[09:28] <neblux> orbin: is that posible to remove that file?
[09:28] <pheaver> RAOF: hmm... i've heard of all but smart
[09:28] <kevev> none of the settings suggested in the forum have helped
[09:28] <yharrow> bobstro: thats a possibility
[09:28] <RAOF> pheaver: Plus what ever crazy homebrew apps you have using dpkg/apt libraries
[09:28] <pheaver> yeah
[09:29] <pheaver> crdlb: you know much about the prelink hook and how i can make my own?
[09:29] <crdlb> I don't know anything about it
[09:29] <yharrow> I guess the only way to know whether /dev/dsp gets recreated is to reboot
[09:29] <crdlb> I just used it
[09:29] <pheaver> heh ok
[09:29] <pheaver> crdlb: you know where it is?
[09:29] <orbin> neblux: ... i wouldn't for now, seeing as it's complaining about it.  cd into /var/lib/dpkg/updates, then do an ls.  do you see the file?
[09:29] <pheaver> so i can use it as an example
[09:29] <crdlb> it was a while ago, but I'll look
[09:29] <pheaver> ok, i am looking too
[09:29] <crimsun> yharrow: /dev/dsp is created with snd-pcm-oss
[09:30] <pheaver> maybe the ubuntu guide on prelinking will help
[09:30] <crimsun> yharrow: it's "recreated" upon [successful]  module load
[09:30] <crimsun> kevev: what's the issue?
[09:30] <pheaver> i figured it out
[09:30] <yharrow> crimsun: modprobe snd-pcm-oss would do the trick?
[09:31] <pheaver> put this in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[09:31] <crimsun> yharrow: it should already be loaded
[09:31] <pheaver> DPkg::Post-Invoke {"whatever-command-you-want-to-run";}
[09:31] <crimsun> yharrow: but yes.
[09:31] <yharrow> crimsun: how do I unload and reload?
[09:31] <yharrow> crimsun: I overwrote /dev/dsp
[09:31] <kevev> crimsun: Gateway MT3705 laptop with ATI chipset. SB450 is sound uses module snd-hd-intel
[09:31] <cbs> zie: any experience playing oblivion in WINE?
[09:31] <crdlb> modprobe -r ?
[09:32] <yharrow> crdlb: ok ill try that
[09:32] <crimsun> kevev: fixed already.  You need http://adhd.irule.net/~crimsun/azx_codecs/0005-UBUNTU-sound-pci-hda-Fix-detection-for-Toshiba-A100-and-other-ATI-SB450-devices-hda_intel.c.txt
[09:32] <yehweh> hey Im, having trouble editing my Applications list. When I try to uncheck on some of the items in the list, I cant(Eg: character map.) Is there any other way to get to it OR can I fix it so that the check and uncheck part works?
[09:32] <xamph> Yay for ubuntu!
[09:32] <yharrow> FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss is in use.
[09:32] <crimsun> kevev: and also module=auto
[09:32] <crimsun> yharrow: so kill whatever's using /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer*
[09:32] <yharrow> FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss is in use.
[09:32] <yharrow> sorry
[09:32] <yharrow> duplicate
[09:33] <yharrow> ok works now
[09:33] <yell0w> hey guys, has anyone run games and it's sluggisher than should be (cpu runs 100%), is there a cpu or kernel patch or something i have to do ? does opengl have anything to do with it ?
[09:33] <amicitas> Hey I am having a minor issue where after I press the quit button there is a long (5 second) delay before the window with all of the logout options comes up.  This happens in both gnome and KDE.  Is this expected behavior?
[09:33] <majnoon>  anyone else having trouble burning cdroms after upgrade ??
[09:33] <DARKGuy> yell0w: native linux game or emulated ?
[09:33] <amicitas> Oh yes, I am using 7.04
[09:34] <yell0w> DARKGuy, native
[09:34] <orbin> yell0w: video driver installed?
[09:34] <zie> nope
[09:34] <crdlb> yell0w: what video card?
[09:34] <yell0w> ati x200
[09:34] <kevev> crimsun: so I gotta patch my kernel?
[09:35] <crdlb> yell0w: xpress 200 ?
[09:35] <yell0w> that should be enough for things like supertux and stuff ya ?
[09:35] <yell0w> crdlb, yes
[09:35] <crdlb> yell0w: it has no free 3d support
[09:35] <cbs> Can anyone help me get TES 4 Oblivion run ning on wine?
[09:35] <crdlb> so you have to use the restricted driver
[09:35] <crdlb> did you do that?
[09:35] <crolle17> have a question concerning regexp in vi: the original text is 'tet' and i want to change every 'tet' into 'test'. i read something about option s and did so: '/s/tet test'
[09:35] <orbin> yehweh: just a stab.  try running alacarte from the terminal and seeing if you get any error output
[09:35] <yell0w> crdlb, restricted driver for ?
[09:35] <crolle17> but it didn't work
[09:35] <crdlb> yell0w: the restricted video driver (fglrx)
[09:35] <crimsun> kevev: can you wait 5-10 minutes?  I need to ask our kernel lead something.
[09:35] <yell0w> crdlb, is that why the cpu shot up 100%?
[09:36] <crdlb> ie ati's proprietary driver
[09:36] <crdlb> yell0w: if you haven't done that, it's using software rendering
[09:36] <crdlb> so yes
[09:36] <yell0w> ahhh
[09:36] <crdlb> yell0w: system>administration>restricted manager
[09:36] <yetist> who has the installer program of ubuntu 6.06?
[09:36] <RAOF> yetist: www.ubuntu.com ?
[09:37] <kevev> crimsun: ok
[09:37] <yell0w> crdlb, uhm i don't have restricted manager , which package would that be ? (custom install)
[09:37] <cbs> Every time I try to run Oblivion it errors out and gives me some memery registers in oblivion.exe....anyone?
[09:37] <crdlb> yell0w: is this ubuntu feisty?
[09:37] <yehweh> orbin: Thanks Im going to talke a look at it and will msg in a bit
[09:37] <RAOF> Ah, the joy of wine.
[09:37] <yetist> RAOF: I need the program only, it written by python.
[09:37] <crdlb> not kubuntu or xubuntu?
[09:37] <DARKGuy> WINE = <3
[09:37] <crimsun> kevev: I'll need to compile some test kernel modules (the sound drivers) for you.  Give me a few minutes.
[09:37] <cbs> yes...i can run almost anyhting so far
[09:37] <yell0w> crdlb, feisty ubuntu 32
[09:38] <crdlb> !info restricted-manager
[09:38] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[09:38] <yell0w> ahh
[09:38] <kevev> crimsun: ok
[09:38] <yell0w> thanks
[09:38] <crdlb> if you've installed ubuntu-desktop, you should have it
[09:38] <johnt> zcat[1] : you at the keys in Claudelands?????
[09:38] <britt> what recommendation would everybody have for measuring temperature on a CPU?
[09:38] <crolle17> does somebody know about regexp in vi?
[09:38] <yell0w> crdlb, i did the minimum gnome-core :)
[09:39] <AzMoo> Hey, sometimes when I try and create a tab in firefox it actually makes about 30. Anybody know why it might do that? All I do is tap ctrl+t.
[09:39] <RAOF> yetist: Oh, you mean Ubuquity?  apt-get source ubiquity should get you the source.
[09:39] <kevev> AzMoo: keyboard timing?
[09:40] <yetist> RAOF, ok, thank you.
[09:40] <amicitas> Can anyone say if it is normal for there to be a ~5 second delay after pressing the quit button before the window with the logout options comes up?
[09:40] <bobstro> crolle17:  a bit. what do you need?
[09:40] <AzMoo> kevev, I don't know. I recently got a new keyboard. How would I check to see if this is the issue?
[09:40] <crolle17> have a question concerning regexp in vi: the original text is 'tet' and i want to change every 'tet' into 'test'. i read something about option s and did so: '/s/tet test'
[09:40] <jarrett> amicitas: mine is instant
[09:40] <crimsun> kevev: I have a slow computer, so this will take ~15 minutes.  I'll keep you updated.
[09:41] <AzMoo> crolle17, s/tet/test/g
[09:41] <kevev> AzMoo: in the bios check the setting for key press delay. I forget what it is called.
[09:41] <bobstro> crolle17: try :%s/tet/test/g
[09:41] <kevev> crimsun: k
[09:41] <yell0w> crdlb, thanks, time for reboot
[09:41] <AzMoo> kevev, ah right, I see. I'll take a look.
[09:41] <kevev> AzMoo: make sure it is enabled.
[09:42] <amicitas> jarrett: Thats what I thought, something is off on my setup.  Seems like things are not running smooth.  I get a little jumpyness is some programs, I don't know if that is related to my logout button issue.
[09:42] <zaggynl> Anyone knows a way to listen to .asp streams with xmms?
[09:42] <Psipherious> Hey guys, I'm gonna put Ubuntu on a new computer that I just got, it's a 64-bit machine but I'm just wondering if I should put 6.06 (because of the extended support time) on or the latest 7.04. I'm not likely to keep patching it with the latest releases every 6 months which is why I consider 6.06. Any suggestions?
[09:43] <crdlb> zaggynl: probably not, use mplayer
[09:43] <zaggynl> :/
[09:43] <yehweh> orbin: Thanks there was some permissions problem. I used sudo and it worked like a charm. But I have a quick question, if this has to be done in admin mode should I not be asked for the password when i use the gui to get to alacarte?
[09:43] <zaggynl> There isn't a single app that can play everything is it?
[09:43] <crdlb> that's mplayer :)
[09:43] <kevev> zaggynl: .asp? that is a MS web script page.
[09:43] <jarrett> amicitas: sorry, im not really sure what would be causing it, just wanted to let you know that i dont think it is normal
[09:43] <DARKGuy> zaggynl: isn't an .asp file a Microsoft ASP script?
[09:44] <crdlb> and xmms both sucks and is now abandoned
[09:44] <zaggynl> I looked in the asp, and there is a link, 'http://<IP_ADDRESS>/skyradio/spots/stream_radioveronica.mp3'
[09:44] <zaggynl> but xmms won't play that either
[09:44] <DARKGuy> Audacious = xmms :P
[09:44] <csabika> sziasztok
[09:44] <csabika> van itt magyar ember?
[09:44] <kevev> MS=sux
[09:44] <DARKGuy> !ru | csa
[09:44] <ubotu> csa:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:44] <bobstro> Psipherious:  if its for personal use, i wouldn't hesitate to keep up with next-to-most-recent release
[09:44] <RAOF> Psipherious: 7.04
[09:44] <DARKGuy> whoops.
[09:44] <bobstro> Psipherious:  definitely wait for things to settle down after each new one.
[09:44] <bobstro> Psipherious:  also, DO keep your system updated regardless!
[09:45] <RAOF> Psipherious: Unless you're aiming for 24/7x 365 uptime, which you're probably not.
[09:45] <crdlb> Psipherious: definitely 7.04 because of the new hardware
[09:45] <Psipherious> bobstro: Yeah it's just for personal use. Whichever version I install though will likely stay on there for a good year or two before I go messing with trying to patch it to the latest.
[09:45] <lkthomas> hey guys, is there have any application allows to remember all remote ssh session so that I wouldn't need to login to other unix server when I login to my workstation ?
[09:45] <midgewa> Is there a good DJ mixing program for ubuntu? a GOOD one? id like one thats on par with like.. traktor or something
[09:45] <bobstro> Psipherious:  definitely at least get the security updates regularly.
[09:46] <crdlb> Psipherious: then upgrade after 18 months
[09:46] <shr3ya5> i got one query here
[09:46] <bobstro> lkthomas:  you mean so you don't need passwords to log in to remote?
[09:46] <Psipherious> bobstro, crdlb: okay great. Thanks for the suggetions both of you. Much appreciated.
[09:46] <zaggynl> mplayer can't play it either
[09:46] <lkthomas> bobstro, or even remember the whole session
[09:46] <doc__> hi there
[09:47] <johnt> hi
[09:47] <midgewa> Is there a good DJ mixing program for ubuntu? a GOOD one? id like one thats on par with like.. traktor or something
[09:47] <bobstro> lkthomas:  sorry, but what do you mean "the whole session". as in resume a session? screen can help with that.
[09:47] <lkthomas> bobstro, I still need to login to unix server to use screen
[09:47] <kevev> zaggynl: try xine yet?
[09:47] <zaggynl> I'm using vlc now, but it just stops after a while
[09:47] <midgewa> Is there a good DJ mixing program for ubuntu? a GOOD one? id like one thats on par with like.. traktor or something
[09:48] <bobstro> lkthomas:  yes, but is it the password entry you're objecting to or what?
[09:48] <yell0w> crdlb, how would i know if i'm running fglrx ? from cli ?
[09:48] <kevev> zaggynl: hmmm
[09:48] <lkthomas> bobstro, no, I mean everything
[09:48] <bobstro> lkthomas:  you can automate that, use something like ssh-add so you're only asked once at startup.
[09:48] <crdlb> yell0w: look in your xorg.conf
[09:48] <vikas> #drupal
[09:48] <kevev> midgewa: yes yes yes.
[09:48] <crdlb> yell0w: it didn't work?
[09:48] <zaggynl> I'll install xine
[09:48] <midgewa> kevev; THANKYOU, idea?
[09:49] <lkthomas> bobstro, can I ask konsole to login to diff unix server when I startup my KDE ?
[09:49] <yell0w> crdlb, not really. i'm gonna make sure that it's running first
[09:49] <bobstro> lkthomas:  you could certainly launch a script on boot, yes.
[09:49] <kevev> midgewa: google. I cant remember the name. Ubuntu is working on another distro for that.
[09:49] <bobstro> lkthomas:  er, rather on login.
[09:49] <midgewa> kevev, you mean ubuntu will have an entire distro for DJ stuff?
[09:49] <crdlb> yell0w: did the gui work after reboot?
[09:49] <lkthomas> bobstro, no application could do that for me ?
[09:49] <kevev> midgewa: yes. for sound mixing.
[09:49] <crdlb> yell0w: to test if 3d acceleration is working, run: fglrxinfo
[09:49] <crimsun> midgewa: Ubuntu Studio.  #ubuntustudio
[09:49] <Noonan> hey, i just installed ubuntu on my system. and i dont have an internet connection, im using a wireless card. any ideas on how i can get it to work?
[09:50] <bobstro> lkthomas:  a konsole session can, sure. you need konsole anyhow.
[09:50] <kevev> crimsun: ahh thats it
[09:50] <bobstro> (or some similar program)
[09:50] <lkthomas> bobstro, so how could I deal with it using konsole ?
[09:50] <amicitas> exit
[09:50] <yell0w> crdlb, it says display:0.0 screen:0
[09:50] <nir_ai_> hello, I am trying to burn files to a NON-empty DVD, but the default, nautilus-cd-burner insist that I insert an empty DVD. any idea on what to do?
[09:50] <kevev> Noonan: ndiswrapper and the latest windows driver.
[09:50] <yell0w> crdlb, OpenGL vendor string, etc.......
[09:50] <crdlb> yell0w: it's the lines after that that are important :)
[09:50] <bobstro> lkthomas:  create a session, then call konsole with that session as parameter and put that in autostart folder.
[09:51] <crdlb> yell0w: pm it to me or pastebin it
[09:51] <bobstro> lkthomas:  or use a session with that running (your choice).
[09:51] <crdlb> don't paste it here
[09:51] <nir_ai_> how do I burn to NON-empty DVDs?
[09:51] <zaggynl> ah, found a pls link, extracted the ip+port from it, now xmms finally plays it
[09:51] <Noonan> kevev, the windows drivers will work with linux? if so i have the cd that came with the wireless pci-card. would that work with linux?
[09:52] <bobstro> lkthomas:  first step is to get the session set up in konsole.
[09:52] <kevev> zaggynl: sweet
[09:52] <crdlb> yell0w: ok it's working
[09:52] <kevev> Noonan: yes
[09:52] <lkthomas> bobstro, ok, next ?
[09:52] <Patrick2> Are Dell shipping Ubuntu yet ?
[09:52] <cbs> What Does This Mean?
[09:52] <midgewa> crimsun, noone talks on the ubuntustudio channel
[09:53] <crimsun> Patrick2: no.
[09:53] <cbs> fixme:jack:JACK_drvLoad error loading the jack library libjack.so, please install this library to use jack
[09:53] <oldude67> im running 7.04 and i really like it since im a newbie, but i want to learn more about shell programming....is this the best distro for that???
[09:53] <nir_ai_> anyone? help...
[09:53] <crimsun> midgewa: that's because we're mostly asleep.
[09:53] <kevev> Noonan: install ndiswrapper and do man ndiswrapper. Easy instructions.
[09:53] <zaggynl> oldude67, plenty of shells in Ubuntu
[09:53] <Patrick2> crimsun: Thanks
[09:53] <midgewa> crimsun, well do u know of a program i can look for?
[09:53] <crimsun> midgewa: I'm busy ATM helping kevev.
[09:53] <zaggynl> nir_ai_, you mean add to an existing DVD? I've never done that, but you should try k3b
[09:53] <oldude67> zaggynl: thanks, is there lots of help too?
[09:54] <zaggynl> oldude67, help as in?
[09:54] <zcat[1] > johnt hello?
[09:54] <Noonan> kevev, so i need to install ndiswrapper and then put the cd in, and it will work?
[09:54] <Angel-SL> hey, anyone know where the ubuntu sounds are (login, logout, etc)
[09:54] <midgewa> crimsun, gimme a yell when ur free
[09:54] <oldude67> wow dont hold down keys in here...oops
[09:54] <Noonan> kevev, because the cd is in now, and the autorun didnt comense.
[09:54] <Jowi> Angel-SL, /usr/share/sounds
[09:54] <nir_ai_> zaggynl, yes, I want to add to an existing DVD. naturally, the case when you are backing up log files
[09:54] <zaggynl> ah logfiles
[09:54] <bobstro> lkthomas:  then put konsole in your autostart, calling it with that session
[09:54] <johnt> zcat[1] :
[09:54] <Akuma_> how can i suggest that an application be added to the universe repository?
[09:55] <johnt> zcat[1] :hi
[09:55] <zcat[1] > Hi john. was reading slashdot..
[09:55] <kevev> Noonan: errrr.....this is not windows. copy the driver(sys inf dll....etc) to the HD. Run ndiswrapper -i inf
[09:55] <johnt> zcat[1] :did you get a pm from me?
[09:55] <zcat[1] > I thought you were jjohn anyhow.. or was it j'ohn ?
[09:55] <zcat[1] > nope..
[09:55] <bobstro> lkthomas:  i've got that set up, but it's been awhile since i set it up. forgot some of the details.
[09:56] <oldude67> zaggynl: like i said im a newbie but i really want to learn more about linux itself, like how to program, how to write programs, and maybe work with some company in the future too.
[09:56] <Noonan> kevev, alright, so i can put them in a folder on the desktop? or does it matter where i put the driver on the HD?
[09:56] <johnt> zcat[1] :jjohn on ubuntu forums J'ohn on wlug lol
[09:56] <kevev> Noonan: does not matter
[09:56] <zcat[1] > you need to register and sign in to send pms here
[09:56] <main2> how do i play .flv files (youtube) at dapper? :)
[09:57] <zcat[1] > main2, vlc can handle them.. or mplayer?
[09:57] <lkthomas> bobstro, LOL
[09:57] <[Meta] > How do I compile a program in Ubuntu? (Eg. Gimpshop)
[09:57] <cbs> where do I get this lib?? fixme:jack:JACK_drvLoad error loading the jack library libjack.so, please install this library to use jack
[09:57] <bobstro> lkthomas:  setting up the session was the trick. not hard, just not something i do everyday.
[09:57] <oldude67> man i keep screwing that up
[09:57] <main2> zcat[1] , i tried vlc, even upgraded it to the latest 0.8.5 (for dapper)
[09:57] <zcat[1] > !search libjack
[09:57] <ubotu> Found:
[09:57] <zaggynl> oldude67, Ubuntu is pretty much the easiest form of Linux you can find, but you can still learn a great deal of Linux using it.
[09:57] <main2> from the vlc repos
[09:57] <lkthomas> bobstro, haha, ok
[09:57] <johnt> zcat[1] :I am registered so I may be doing it wrong I have a folder with you nick up
[09:57] <zcat[1] > main2, probably need some !codecs
[09:57] <main2> but vlc says unsupported codec
[09:58] <Noonan> kevev, ok. and what driver do i take? (win2k, win98/me, winXP)? and inside those there is also alot of .bin files and stuff.. do i only take the .inf?
[09:58] <bobstro> lkthomas:  sheesh, settings->configure konsole->sessions
[09:58] <[Meta] > !compile
[09:58] <main2> zcat[1] , ya...
[09:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:58] <main2> zcat[1] , i got win32 codecs installed
[09:58] <cbs> !SEARCH LIBJACK
[09:58] <ubotu> Found:
[09:58] <main2> what could i need more?
[09:58] <cbs> oops caps
[09:58] <crdlb> !find libjack.so
[09:58] <mattycoze> hay ppl i need help in finding a good screenshot manager like the one beryl has
[09:58] <ubotu> File libjack.so found in libjack0.100.0-dev
[09:58] <kevev> Noonan: try the winXP. They seem to work best. Just copy everything.
[09:58] <Ademan> are there any restrictions on using/"distributing" the ubuntu logo? (not modifying it, nor claiming it to be my own of course)
[09:58] <main2> matty ksnapshot? :D
[09:59] <mattycoze> main2 can you get it to take selections of the screen as a screenshot?
[09:59] <zcat[1] > Ademan, check the ubuntu website; I think the restrictions are fairlyminimal..
[09:59] <mattycoze> main2 because that was what was so awesome about beryl
[09:59] <main2> matty yes you can
[09:59] <bobstro> lkthomas:  set up session to call ssh. you'll probably want a public key login, so get that set up too. if desired, call ssh-add on startup to ask for passphrase. then add konsole to autostart calling it with that session (--type i think)
[09:59] <kevev> where is a good list of comunity repositories?
[09:59] <Noonan> kevev, and do i install 'ndiswrapper' from the repos?
[09:59] <Ademan> thanks zcat[1]  i'm sure it's fine (i just want to put the logo up on my facebook) but i wanted to double check
[10:00] <mattycoze> awesome i'll give it a try,
[10:00] <lkthomas> bobstro, I am looking for more GUI than command line :)
[10:00] <kevev> Noonan: yes
[10:00] <bobstro> lkthomas:  err... ssh is pretty command line!
[10:00] <crimsun> kevev: a2b18cfc057984829b646064f88f4d799e2dd083  snd-hda-codec.ko, 0ae9b68dd5df65daa3fe8431ab50e49cd45e61c8  snd-hda-intel.ko  : http://adhd.irule.net/~crimsun/feisty-azx-sb450/
[10:00] <lkthomas> bobstro, not with a datacenter scale of server
[10:00] <bobstro> lkthomas:  what do you mean ?
[10:01] <lkthomas> bobstro, I mean, with like 50server
[10:01] <Noonan> kevev, it wont let me download it, because i dont have an internet connection..
[10:01] <Bra1> hello?
[10:01] <bobstro> lkthomas:  ssh just gives you a shell prompt on the remote machine.
[10:01] <cbs>  File libjack.so found in libjack0.100.0-dev : How Do I Install This Now?
[10:01] <oldude67> zaggynl: where is a good place to look for what im trying to learn would it be wise to just google it or is there a better way to find out?
[10:01] <lkthomas> bobstro, you don't get me
[10:01] <crimsun> kevev: back up (mv) your existing ones into your home directory, then download and replace them with the ones I gave you
[10:01] <bobstro> lkthomas:  no, apparently not.
[10:01] <lkthomas> bobstro, are you going to login to 50unix server when you login to KDE
[10:01] <yell0w> crdlb, that was a false negative, the rest of them work. Thanks!
[10:01] <kevev> Noonan: lol
[10:02] <kevev> Noonan: gotta fix that first
[10:02] <johnt> zcat[1] :Will you help me with a script for mencoder?  I want /home/filename (mpeg1) to become filename mpeg2
[10:02] <zaggynl> oldude67, googling will give you a great deal, but getting yourself some books about linux/shell programming isn't a bad idea either.
[10:02] <bobstro> lkthomas:  with a datacenter, i'd definitely use a passphrase to protect the keys.
[10:02] <zie> anyone know a program the i can make slideshows and videos with text that runs in Linux
[10:02] <bobstro> lkthomas:  you want to log in to all 50 automatically?
[10:02] <kevev> crimsun: gotcha
[10:02] <Noonan> kevev, isnt that what were trying to do.. heh
[10:02] <lkthomas> bobstro, yep
[10:02] <lkthomas> bobstro, it's my workstation man
[10:02] <zie> anyone?
[10:02] <crimsun> kevev: afterward, reboot
[10:02] <bobstro> lkthomas:  corporate policy lets you do that?
[10:02] <oldude67> zaggynl: thanks for the info.....
[10:02] <zcat[1] > john, use vlc's transcode wizard.
[10:02] <kevev> crimsun: gotcha
[10:02] <zaggynl> welcome
[10:02] <lkthomas> bobstro, I make the policy, go figer
[10:03] <bobstro> lkthomas:  this would work, but your desktop might get a bit busy.
[10:03] <zie> anyone know a program the i can make slideshows and videos with text that runs in Linux
[10:03] <kevev> Noonan: you cant get the package without internet. You gotta plugin.
[10:03] <yehweh> lkthomas: lucky you!
[10:03] <bobstro> lkthomas:  so i'm not seeing what you mean about the gui!
[10:03] <Bra1> can anyone help me create a separate partition for ubuntu with vista?
[10:03] <mattycoze> heh it's not very good man
[10:03] <boulderdash> Hi all
[10:04] <Noonan> kevev, so, you have any sugestions? how i can get this installed?
[10:04] <midgewa> how do i update java?
[10:04] <kevev> crimsun: so is this official patches? Will they be in the next kernel?
[10:04] <zie> caplain, help
[10:04] <midgewa> i think i have an old version
[10:04] <johnt> zcat[1] :VCL??
[10:04] <kevev> Noonan: you have no way of connecting to the internet?
[10:04] <Noonan> kevev, yes i am on a laptop that is connected to the wifi in the house atm..
[10:04] <Bra1> no one knows how to install a separate partition for ubuntu when vista is already installed?
[10:04] <zcat[1] > !info vlc
[10:04] <majnoon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19588/ having trouble with trying to burn cdroms
[10:04] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[10:04] <zie> anyone know a program the i can make slideshows and videos with text that runs in Linux
[10:04] <zie> that*
[10:05] <crimsun> kevev: you need to tell me if they work for you first  :)
[10:05] <kevev> Noonan: is this the linux box?
[10:05] <zcat[1] > john, it does a nice job of converting one format to another
[10:05] <[Meta] > Can someone help me walk through this? -.-
[10:05] <bobstro> lkthomas:  what did you mean by more gui?
[10:05] <Noonan> kevev, no, this is a windows laptop. the linux box is a pc right infront of me. (what we are trying to fix atm.)
[10:05] <kevev> crimsun: will do. let me fix Noonan first. Unless you wanna take over?:)
[10:05] <johnt> zcat[1] :OK thanks... So pm works then????
[10:05] <zie> I REALLY NEED HELP
[10:05] <crimsun> kevev: busy ATM.
[10:06] <kevev> crimsun: werd
[10:06] <zcat[1] > johnt, nope.. getting nothing here
[10:06] <midgewa> how do i update java?
[10:06] <midgewa> how do i update java?
[10:06] <zie> Go to java.com
[10:06] <crimsun> midgewa: from what to what?
[10:06] <johnt> zcat[1] :I got your moof
[10:06] <zie> download newer java
[10:06] <zie> for linux
[10:06] <[Meta] > Ugh.
[10:06] <midgewa> its like 1.4.x now, i need 1.5.x
[10:06] <[Meta] > Stuff you guys.
[10:06] <aftertaf> any known problem with feisty and the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel?
[10:06] <aftertaf> I can't boot to it (like when beta, with the SATA driver making it all hang.)
[10:06] <zcat[1] > I'm not getting any replies though..
[10:06] <aftertaf> and i cant get NVIDIA driver installed...... on 20.13 kernel, headers missing...
[10:06] <midgewa> crimsun, its like 1.4.x now, i need 1.5.x
[10:06] <deCon> what is the best dock for feisty?
[10:06] <Myrtti> midgewa: which ubuntu do you have?
[10:06] <zie> then download 1.5x at java.com
[10:07] <midgewa> Myrtti feisty
[10:07] <kevev> Noonan: You need to get the thing on the net some how first. do lspci at the shell. what is your wireless nic chip?
[10:07] <Bra1> is there a room that can help me separate partitions?
[10:07] <Myrtti> midgewa: you can get it with package manager I think
[10:07] <sinta> semarang
[10:07] <yehweh> Myrtti: try avn
[10:07] <burung_hitam> hi
[10:07] <zie> is there a help room for linux
[10:07] <johnt> zcat[1] :how to check my nick reg??
[10:07] <midgewa> Myrtti i dont think its an updater tho, just the current version i have
[10:07] <burung_hitam> asl pls?
[10:07] <AzMoo> aftertaf, I had an issue booting the i386 kernel. Switched to generic and it was all good.
[10:07] <Myrtti> midgewa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[10:07] <Bo0m> zie : just ask your question, am sure someone will help!
[10:07] <burung_hitam> anjeng
[10:07] <burung_hitam> bangsat
[10:07] <yehweh> zie:  what is your problem
[10:07] <Noonan> kevev, i dont know it spits out a bunch of stuff (about 15 lines)
[10:07] <burung_hitam> sialan
[10:07] <zie> hmmm
[10:08] <deCon> best dock for ubuntu? avant-window-nav seems to suck
[10:08] <aftertaf> AzMoo: same pb with both... :/
[10:08] <mattycoze> can anyone get the old beryl screenshot plugin to work with the one that comes preinstalled with 7.04?
[10:08] <zcat[1] > no idea
[10:08] <zie> well i need a slideshow program for linux, i cant seem to find one anywhere
[10:08] <burung_hitam> babi
[10:08] <burung_hitam> asu
[10:08] <burung_hitam> suck as
[10:08] <kevev> Noonan: ok. read them.
[10:08] <burung_hitam> fuck you
[10:08] <johnt> zcat[1] :Gaaaa!!!
[10:08] <kevev> Noonan: this is gonna take some work.
[10:08] <crimsun> midgewa: so enable multiverse and install sun-java5-jre in edgy/feisty.
[10:08] <mattycoze> :o @ burung_hitman
[10:08] <Noonan> kevev, do i just get this http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482&package_id=99148&release_id=504757 and then unpack that tarball on the linux box?
[10:08] <Noonan> kevev, ok
[10:08] <Myrtti> /me stumbled on her keyboard
[10:09] <midgewa> crimsun, ok i dont know what ur little multivers thing means, or how to do that
[10:09] <yehweh> deCon: its new I guess itll take some time for everything to fall into place
[10:09] <bobstro> lkthomas:  so you're all set now?
[10:09] <Bra1> can someone please direct me to the right irc room to partition out my HDD for Vista and Ubuntu with Vista already installed?
[10:09] <lkthomas> bobstro, no, googling around
[10:09] <kevev> Noonan: yes you can do that. you will have to build it and install it. do you know how to do that?
[10:09] <zie> yehway: need slide show program for linux
[10:09] <Noonan> kevev, there is a line tha says network controller: texas instruments ACX 111 54mbps wireless interface..
[10:09] <crimsun> !components >midgewa
[10:09] <sanityx> zie, you could use the openoffice presentation software
[10:10] <Noonan> kevev, no, fairly new to linux
[10:10] <zie> can i render to .MPG
[10:10] <aftertaf> is anyone else having problems with the official latest feisty kernel not booting
[10:10] <kevev> Noonan: thats it. never heard of it.
[10:10] <midgewa> crimsun, what?
[10:10] <zcat[1] > gah, need more drivespace
[10:10] <crimsun> midgewa: read the query that ubotu sent you
[10:10] <zie> sanityx: CAN I RENDER TO .mpg
[10:10] <mattycoze> can anyone get the old beryl screenshot plugin to work with the one that comes preinstalled with 7.04?
[10:10] <yehweh> zie:  Im sorry cant help you with that. I dont use much of the multimedia part in linux
[10:10] <bullgard4> In Feisty the file content of /etc/default/bootlogd is "# Run bootlogd at startup?; BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No." Where does Fesity store the dmesg messages?
[10:10] <sanityx> zie, I don't know but I don't think so
[10:10] <bobstro> lkthomas:  i'm out. good luck with it!
[10:11] <zie> ok, thanks
[10:11] <lkthomas> bobstro, k, thanks
[10:11] <kyo> alo, okay, I need language support for multiple languages, for gaiam, irc, text, etc. Best advice
[10:11] <chriso> hey
[10:11] <chriso> anyone can help me ?
[10:11] <zaggynl> !ask
[10:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:11] <Bo0m> lol nice
[10:11] <Bra1> can I ask a question?
[10:11] <chriso> ok
[10:11] <zcat[1] > anyone else got easy suggestions on how to transcode from one codec to another?
[10:11] <Noonan> kevev, so, is the only option to build the tarball package myself? and do it that way?
[10:11] <midgewa> crimsun, whatever ur saying or doing, it isnt helping, do u know how to help me update java or not?
[10:12] <chriso> why i can not open network options ?
[10:12] <wilo> quick question, what is wrong with ubuntu edgy 6.10 security updates?
[10:12] <crimsun> midgewa: did you not read the private message?
[10:12] <kevev> if you dont have a ethernet nic, yes.
[10:12] <ompaul> wilo, why do you think there are issues with them?
[10:12] <midgewa> crimsun it didnt exactly help.... "go to this site"
[10:12] <zcat[1] > actually johnt what were you transcoding for? If you're making a dvd or vcd, devede will do the whole thing for you, really easily
[10:13] <johnt> zcat[1] :I was told mencode
[10:13] <kevev> Noonan: you may be able to download the .deb file to install ndiswrapper.
[10:13] <crimsun> midgewa: which Ubuntu release are you using?
[10:13] <zcat[1] > mencode is hard :)
[10:13] <zcat[1] > vlc is a heap easier, although less easy to script
[10:13] <Noonan> kevev, do u know where i can get one?
[10:14] <kevev> Noonan: checking
[10:14] <zcat[1] > so depends if you want to re-encode just one file now and then, or do a whole directory / set up  cron job..
[10:14] <kyo> can anyone help me with language support?
[10:14] <midgewa> crimsun 7.04
[10:14] <JJ|Laptop> ok...
[10:14] <aftertaf> zcat[1] : or try TOVID, very good.... :)
[10:14] <zcat[1] > tovid?
[10:14] <crimsun> midgewa: choose Applications> Add/Remove...
[10:14] <JJ|Laptop> ubotu just pissed me off...
[10:14] <arejay> Bra1: try asking google you're question? I'm abit busy at the moment or i'd love to help.
[10:15] <johnt> zcat[1] :I have a mpeg1 of acacia at the gym I want to run it through my dse dvd player that does not handle mpegs so I tries to burn with k3b but got errors one of which is a transcode error
[10:15] <crimsun> midgewa: then, in the drop-down menu, choose All available applications
[10:15] <sanityx> Anybody know any good GTK html editors/IDEs that are in the repositories?
[10:15] <Bra1> I tried, google didn't help much
[10:15] <Myrtti> sanityx: screem
[10:15] <crimsun> midgewa: then, in the Search text entry field, type java5
[10:15] <Bra1> it seems vista partitions are different than xp for booting up
[10:15] <sanityx> Myrtti, ill look at it thanks
[10:15] <midgewa> crimsun, then which one do i do?
[10:15] <ompaul> JJ|Laptop, (A) that was me that got the bot to send you a message (B) you are in a channel of 1k + users if we all did that the channel would be unuable that is all
[10:15] <johnt> zcat[1] :Is tovid gui????
[10:15] <midgewa> crimsun, runtime?
[10:15] <zcat[1] > john, ahh, probably you want devede then.. I managed to get a working VCD out of it first time, it's really easy. and yes, gui
[10:15] <crimsun> midgewa: you likely want both runtime and plugin
[10:16] <zcat[1] > !info tovid
[10:16] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:16] <SnapLinux> jusy installed nvida settings but cant find them to save my life
[10:16] <Souljah> Hello
[10:16] <zcat[1] > tovod? never heard of it..
[10:16] <johnt> zcat[1] :devede is gui and in repos
[10:16] <zcat[1] > !info devede
[10:16] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.9-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 449 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[10:16] <Souljah> I need some help in moving a folder or extracting some files
[10:16] <chriso> why i can not open network options ?
[10:17] <sanityx> Myrtti, Screem is awesome, just what I'm looking for, thanks!
[10:17] <crimsun> kevev: any ETA on testing?  I need to get back to work.
[10:17] <Myrtti> sanityx: np :-)
[10:17] <ce_aNewh> hlooowww
[10:17] <Souljah> I want to move a folder
[10:17] <Souljah> how do i do that
[10:17] <zcat[1] > much easier than something like qdvdauthor which will insist that you have to set up menus, languages, subtitles, etc...
[10:17] <Bra1> I can see 5 different partitions in GParted. /dev/sda1:fat16, is this where I need to put my ubuntu partition?
[10:18] <lkthomas> does KDE got a program which have something similar with macosx gatget ?
[10:18] <kyo> can anyone help with language support?
[10:18] <wilo> ompaul: well i get a notice in the task bar to say tat i have 22 sercurity iissuews ot be updated
[10:18] <johnt> zcat[1] :I got a million codecs and other stuff from a restricted site so devede should "just work" ???
[10:18] <ompaul> wilo, so click on the icon give it your password and then let it roll
[10:18] <kevev> crimsun: one sec
[10:19] <wilo> when i go to update it, enter root password, it go's to update and then needs to connect to the server for the updates
[10:19] <zcat[1] > johnt, I think it pulls in some other stuff as dependencies, it basically sorted itself out here..
[10:19] <wilo> the server keeps gettin timed out
[10:19] <Slart> Anyone else thinks that extracting large/many files using fileroller makes ubuntu feel sluggish.. I don't get this kind of behaviour using the console unpacker.. can I run fileroller with a lower priority? or is there something else I have missed?
[10:19] <wilo> like its own or dont host any more
[10:19] <Myrtti> !ask | kyo
[10:19] <ubotu> kyo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:19] <yehweh> chriso: Im a relatively new user (for ubuntu and linux) I guess this is a habit I carried over from xp ... restart whe in doubt
[10:19] <godlygeek> Soulja: mv sourcefile destloc if you're in a console...
[10:19] <yehweh> lol
[10:19] <aftertaf> tovid is downloadable, runs a python script and has a gui. Very neat
[10:19] <zcat[1] > wilo, find some better repos.. here in NZ I often have to go to the AU repos to get updates
[10:19] <aftertaf> http://tovid.wikia.com/
[10:19] <wilo> zcat[1] : but the repo's did work
[10:20] <kyo> I don't know how to set up multiple language support for use in im, irc, and general typing
[10:20] <johnt> zcat[1] :OK I will give it a try thx.. are you home in the morning for the phone?
[10:20] <aftertaf> !tovid is simple and powerful DVD authoring software - http://tovid.wikia.com/
[10:20] <wilo> im using security.ubuntu.com and au.archieve.ubuntu.com
[10:21] <kevev> Noonan: you will need to connect. Ndiswrapper is only available as source code.
[10:21] <zcat[1] > johnt, probably not.. shopping, and possibly other stuff. Should be home after 2pm though
[10:21] <chriso> yehweh yes but can you open network options
[10:21] <wilo> zcat[1] : what repos do u use from aust, cuz i loive in syd aust
[10:21] <zcat[1] > call anyhow.. if I'm home I'm home..
[10:21] <Bra1> I'm still trying to figure out which partition to put Ubuntu on since all of my partitions are full. I want to keep Vista, but be able to dual boot to Ubuntu
[10:21] <Souljah> I want to move a folder to /usr/share/amsn/plugins.
[10:21] <Souljah> how do i do that
[10:21] <chriso> yehweh because ubuntu show me all the tam the connection is ine but i can not open any pages
[10:21] <non|inear> can anyone recommend firewall maleware protection for linux?  and do I need antivirus???
[10:21] <Souljah> can someone hlep
[10:21] <yehweh> chriso: if you are truing to connect to a wifi network using wep you can use iwconfig
[10:21] <kevev> Noonan: you can extract and read the readme and install files. They are very straight forward.
[10:21] <zcat[1] > wilo, no idea, I just changed 'nz' to 'au' in my sources.list
[10:21] <sanityx> Anybody know how to reset all PenguinTV settings?
[10:21] <dps> Hello, anyone as a link to a 2.6.21 build?
[10:21] <godlygeek> has anyone here used gconf-editor to change the battery level or time at which gnome-power-manager decides that it's time to suspend/hibernate/shutdown the computer?
[10:21] <sanityx> My layout got all messed up.
[10:21] <johnt> zcat[1] :looks like that tovid is another option  OK will ring in the after I have a few things you might want
[10:22] <kevev> Crimsun: replacing files and rebooting now.
[10:22] <main2> is there a mplayer repository for dapper?
[10:22] <tdn> As default an 5% of an ext3 file system is reserved for root. How do I change this to 0% when the filesystem already is created and contain data that I do not want to loose? Can I use tune2fs?
[10:22] <yehweh> chriso: Im sorry I did not understand what you jus said can you please explain
[10:22] <chriso> yehweh the probolem is i can not open any options from administration tools
[10:22] <godlygeek> sanityx: I don't use it, but if i had to guess, 'rm ~/penguintv' or something similar would probably do it.
[10:22] <zcat[1] > johnt, got any spare ram? I've got a few mobos here that need some :)
[10:22] <sanityx> godlygeek, ill try it
[10:22] <wilo> zcat[1] : could you pastebin ur repo's
[10:23] <dps> Guys
[10:23] <johnt> zcat[1] :how is 256 sdram
[10:23] <Slart> non|inear: firewall is included.. iptables... there are gui fronts to manage it (or you can do it using the command line, man iptables) .. malware makers aren't that interested in linux computers yet.. haven't seen anything targeting us.. antivirus software exists for linux.. clamav is one... but those are mostly used when you share windows files...
[10:23] <dps> Anyone know where i can get  a 2.6.21 kernel build?
[10:23] <aftertaf> gusty?
[10:23] <yehweh> chriso: Try typing sudo network-admin  in terminal
[10:23] <Slart> !gusty
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gusty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <chriso> yehweh ok i try to have net on my ubuntu\
[10:23] <crimsun> no, gutsy tracks .22.
[10:24] <zcat[1] > wilo, ummm.. at the moment they're all just the default nz ones. Haven't needed to use au since I upgraded to feisty..
[10:24] <sanityx> godlygeek, it blew way all my feeds, but the layout is still wrecked
[10:24] <chriso> yehweh how i can get typing screen ?
[10:24] <kirkunit> gusty gibbon? Ubuntu with beans?
[10:24] <non|inear> slart: cool, thanks, just installed ubuntu and haven't looked around yet really :)
[10:24] <crimsun> kirkunit: no, not guSty.  GuTsy.
[10:24] <non|inear> thought i should check into firewall first cause jsut got netowrk going
[10:24] <SnapLinux> just installed nvida settings but cant find them to save my life
[10:24] <zcat[1] > gusty? hehe.. do gibbons like beans and friend onions?
[10:24] <zcat[1] > err fried!!
[10:25] <jarrett> SnapLinux: type nvidia-settings into the terminal
[10:25] <simon_> Hello. Until last restart Desktop effects in Feisty worked fine. Now i only get: "desktop effects can't be enabled". In between i had some trouble with my graphic driver and had to reinstall it. Does someone know how to troubleshoot this and what may be the problem. I got kind of attached to the desktop effects... thanks for help
[10:25] <yehweh> chriso:click applications>accessories>terminal
[10:25] <ompaul> simon_, I would suggest #ubuntu-effects for that
[10:25] <Slart> non|inear: you're welcome.. I use a dedicated box for NAT/firewall so I don't use the firewall on my desktop. I've heard firestarter is a reasonable program to setup the iptables firewall... haven't tried it myself though
[10:26] <NineTails> Hi
[10:26] <YesDad> Hello
[10:26] <kevev> crimsun: rebooting. brb.
[10:26] <chriso> yehweh ok i need to type password
[10:26] <johnt> zcat[1] :how about 256meg sdram chip
[10:26] <YesDad> ok
[10:26] <NineTails> investigating
[10:26] <imbecile> can someone point me to help in setting up ssl?
[10:26] <zcat[1] > johnt, sweet...
[10:26] <SnapLinux> works thanks no  icon to launch it?
[10:26] <zcat[1] > you have one spare?
[10:26] <johnt> zcat[1]  yes
[10:26] <ompaul> imbecile, what is the issue
[10:27] <yehweh> chriso:  Type the password you used as your root password ( The one you setup when you installed ubuntu)
[10:27] <chriso> yehweh can i type any password ?
[10:27] <telejedi> anyone familiar in vdserver/feisty ???
[10:27] <britt> does feisty have a powerpc port yet?
[10:27] <imbecile> ompaul,  I just want my internet sessions to be encrypted and i know nothing on setting up ssl
[10:27] <zcat[1] > I ran a memtest on all the ram in fluffy 'cos it keeps crashing.. two of three sticks failed :( now I have three good sticks in but two are 100mhz and one's 133.. so it still keeps crashing :(
[10:27] <SnapLinux> jarrett: works thankyou..... is there not an icon somewhere?
[10:28] <ompaul> imbecile, which sessions?
[10:28] <jarrett> SnapLinux: no, but you can always make one that runs that command if you would like
[10:28] <chriso> yehweh problem is i did not type any root password
[10:28] <SnapLinux> ok
[10:28] <Slart> non|inear: and, despite what I said about malware creators not being interested in linux, there are from time to time security flaws in linux applications that makes you vulnerable... the flaws are often fixed quit quickly, just use the auto updater and update when it tells you to, but I'd recommend using the firewall just to get a second line of defence against the uglies
[10:28] <ompaul> !root | chriso
[10:28] <ubotu> chriso: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:28] <Noonan> kevev, alright i can do that. thanks alot for the help, appreciate it.
[10:28] <johnt> zcat[1]  Did Sue give you that other ram I dropped around???
[10:28] <yehweh> chriso:  Is this a live cd? or did you install it on to your hdd?
[10:28] <SnapLinux> not much adjustment here anyways
[10:28] <imbecile> ompaul,  emails etc.. im trying to prevent possible ARP cache poisoning and stuff of the sorts
[10:29] <wilo> can anyone recommend security repo's for ubuntu edgy?
[10:29] <ompaul> imbecile, that is a matter for the service provider
[10:29] <zcat[1] > johnt yeah, I think that's what I replaced my bad ram with :)
[10:29] <chriso> yehweh on my hdd
[10:29] <johnt> zcat[1]  Did Sue give you that other ram I dropped around???
[10:29] <predaeus> how does gnome-btdownload handle seeding? will it just try to seed all previously downloaded files when downloading a new one, or just the current downloading file? so far I couldn't find any info on the web.
[10:29] <ompaul> imbecile, if they don't provide an actually already secure system you are not going to be able to suddenly add ssh/ssl to it
[10:29] <SnapLinux> going to try xorg instead this will delete nvida settings for some reason
[10:29] <mwe> wilo: security.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <johnt> zcat[1]  sorry
[10:30] <ce_aNewh> w000oooiiii
[10:30] <chriso> yehweh i really do not remember any password
[10:30] <imbecile> ompaul, thanks
[10:30] <johnt> zcat[1]  I know that 256 is working so that will help you a little bit I guess
[10:30] <zcat[1] > johnt; funny story. Sue just found some jules riding CD's on trademe, and the seller turns out to be.. Jules Riding.
[10:30] <godlygeek> chriso: you should need to type it whenever you log in to gnome
[10:30] <Slart> predaeus: I think it downloads the file and then seeds that file as long as you keep the window open.. that's the way the original bittorrent client works at least
[10:30] <teclis> hello, I have problem with feisty. Sometimes after startup, the windows have no borders and no titlebar. The only workaround which helps is enable desktop effects and disable them. Is this a known bug?
[10:30] <zcat[1] > john: a lot!!
[10:30] <h4wk> Where do i install new fonts to?
[10:31] <predaeus> Slart, ic thanks for the info. I also asked in ##gnome, will come back to you if I get any info
[10:31] <mwe> what is the most likely hardware failure to cause a computer to randomly freeze?
[10:31] <chriso> godlygeek i did not login to gnome i think so
[10:31] <yehweh> chriso:  I cant think of a way in which you can install ubuntu w/o a passwd. Well, it is part of the installation process! Think hard you will probably remeber it
[10:31] <johnt> zcat[1]  That is delf marketing to the MAXX!!
[10:31] <Slart> h4wk: I think you can start nautilus and type fonts:// in the address thing
[10:31] <johnt> self
[10:31] <Madpilot> h4wk, ~/.fonts
[10:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, fonts | h4wk
[10:31] <ubotu> h4wk: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:31] <ompaul> mwe, ram
[10:32] <Souljah> I need help with the mv command I want to a folder to the /usr/share/amsn/plugins folder. how do i do that
[10:32] <Slart> mwe: I'd go with overheating or bad memory of some kind
[10:32] <mwe> hmm
[10:32] <non|inear> nonwhat about a good bittorrent client.. i use utorrent in xp but no linux port
[10:32] <Madpilot> mwe, fubar'd motherboard did that to me
[10:32] <chriso> yehweh hmm ok i will try to install ubuntu again
[10:32] <wilo> mwe: sweet, what is the command for editing repo.conf?
[10:32] <keve1> Crimson: what did you want me to put in the alsa-base file?
[10:32] <mwe> I'll check the ram to begin with
[10:32] <wilo> wedit somethign something...
[10:32] <zcat[1] > johnt: not a bad idea I guess.. a bit of competition too, she bid on two cd's and already got outbid one one of them
[10:32] <yehweh> chriso:  BTW what is the password you use to login to the system ,,, naah dont reinstall the syustem
[10:32] <predaeus> !torrent | non|inear
[10:32] <ubotu> non|inear: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[10:32] <mwe> wilo: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:32] <non|inear> thnx!
[10:32] <Slart> non|inear: azureus... you can run utorrent using wine.. there are others but nothing as shiny and windows-like
[10:33] <mwe> wilo: should be there by default, though.
[10:33] <kahrytan> chriso: Write down password.
[10:33] <johnt> zcat[1]  It cant be the seller then??
[10:33] <predaeus> non|inear there is also gnome-btdownload as a very basic client. Azureus has the most features I think
[10:33] <Slart> non|inear: I think there's something for KDE too.. ktorrent or something like that
[10:33] <kirkunit> souljah: mv folder /usr/share/amsn/plugins/
[10:33] <non|inear> slari, yea i read that but i'n not too keen on emulating windows stuff lol
[10:33] <ompaul> Souljah, well it depends on where the data is but this is mostly how it is done: mv /what/you/want/to/move* /to/where/you/want/to/move/it : and prefix that with sudo if you need special (read superuser) powers to make it happen
[10:33] <wilo> mwe: wilo@wilo-desktop:~$ wilo: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:33] <wilo> bash: wilo:: command not found
[10:33] <non|inear> i can just reboot for that heh
[10:33] <crimsun> keve1: nothing
[10:33] <mwe> wilo: don't type wilo
[10:33] <crimsun> keve1: does it work as-is currently?
[10:34] <keve1> hmmm
[10:34] <non|inear> maybe i'll try azerus, tried it in xp and liked utorrent better, but might be the best here
[10:34] <Madpilot> wilo, don't put your username in there
[10:34] <keve1> crimsun: nope
[10:34] <keve1> no sound
[10:34] <wilo> rofl lol whoops my bad
[10:34] <wilo> lol
[10:34] <Slart> non|inear: azureus works.. but it's a monster compared to utorrent..
[10:34] <Souljah> kirkunit and ompaul this is what i type in: mv aMSN Live-1.0 -vt /usr/share/amsn/plugins
[10:34] <Souljah> is that right
[10:34] <crimsun> keve1: ok, what if you modprobe -r snd_hda_intel && modprobe snd_hda_intel model=auto  ?
[10:34] <zcat[1] > johnt, no, another buyer outbid. Sie was going to put up her bid but now she's realised the seller is Jules himself, she figures he'll probably list another CD as soon as this one's sold.. so just wait for it :)
[10:34] <non|inear> slari: what do u mean monster, u mean like size or mem use
[10:35] <yehweh> chriso:  When I said what is your passwd I did not mean to ask! (Obviously duh!) I meant try it. LOL
[10:35] <kahrytan> non|inear: Utorrent is designed to work in WINE.
[10:35] <non|inear> hrm
[10:35] <non|inear> anyone here use utorrent in wine
[10:35] <ompaul> Souljah, it can be done but the -vt should be before the first directory or file
[10:35] <keve1> FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[10:35] <Slart> non|inear: uses lots of memory, but also has lots of nice features..
[10:35] <kahrytan> non|inear: i DO
[10:35] <johnt> zcat[1]  good thinking :-))
[10:35] <crimsun> keve1: so do it from a console, and/or kill what's using the audio device first
[10:35] <chriso> yehweh i know login and password but when i typing password it is wrong
[10:35] <Souljah> The folder which is aMSN Live-1.0 is on the desktop. I've all ready cd'd to my desktop
[10:36] <Souljah> so I would have to put -vt before the source?
[10:36] <ompaul> Souljah, so that works, but you don't need it
[10:36] <keve1> crimsun: did it from the console
[10:36] <Souljah> ok let me try
[10:36] <crimsun> keve1: did you log out of gdm/kdm first?
[10:36] <ompaul> Souljah, it is not necessary
[10:36] <non|inear> well, i kinda lwant something that i can leave running while working or playing pj64 LOL (like utorrent)
[10:36] <zcat[1] > johnt, so did you apt-get install devede yet?
[10:36] <non|inear> does utorrent/wine use a lot of resources
[10:36] <keve1> crimsun: no.
[10:37] <crimsun> keve1: do so.
[10:37] <SnapLinux> installed the x.org driver there a config panel for it?
[10:37] <Souljah> ompaul this is what it tells me: mv: accessing `aMSN': No such file or directory
[10:37] <Souljah> aMSN is not the whole file and driections. Live-1.0 is in it too
[10:37] <zcat[1] > ewww, don't run windows torrent clients under wine... gross!
[10:37] <wilo> mwe: this is wat i have atm: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19590/
[10:37] <ompaul> Souljah, do mv aMSN* /target (where target is where you want it
[10:37] <non|inear> while i'm at it... does anyone know of any software that is compatible or at least similar in functionality to sigmaplot and coreldraw?
[10:37] <johnt> zcat[1]  No the computer I want to install on is in use (supertux of all things)
[10:37] <wilo> but it doesn't work
[10:37] <kirkunit> souljah: mv aMSN\ Live-1.0
[10:37] <pilstukas> t
[10:37] <kahrytan> non|inear: Not like that java client
[10:37] <Madpilot> Souljah, type aMSN then hit the TAB key
[10:38] <zcat[1] > johnt, yeah, cairo wants to kick me off this one too :)
[10:38] <yehweh> chriso:  Try to figure the password out ny friend coz w/o that you cant do much. Ill be back in 5.
[10:38] <predaeus> Souljah, you need to put a "\" infront of spaces in file names. else the command thinks it is 2 different files
[10:38] <Matt4781581> hi
[10:38] <kahrytan> non|inear: I can play videos w/o using utorrent.
[10:38] <zcat[1] > so she can play secondlife!
[10:38] <johnt> zcat[1]  Durned women!!!
[10:38] <predaeus> Souljah, or put the whole name in "...."
[10:38] <kahrytan> *w/ using utorrent
[10:38] <Souljah> ok
[10:38] <wilo> zcat[1] : this is the security repo's i got : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19590/
[10:38] <Souljah> in quotes
[10:38] <Souljah> ok
[10:38] <wilo> does tat look right?
[10:38] <Souljah> let me try
[10:39] <Souljah> ok this is what it showed: mv: accessing `aMSN': No such file or directory
[10:39] <Souljah> so it happened?
[10:39] <Souljah> it worked?
[10:39] <non|inear> kahrytan: cool like graphics intensive games?  i just have a 915gm/whatever, 910  blah video so i don't go crazy, but i do like oot
[10:39] <Souljah> oops
[10:39] <Souljah> not that
[10:39] <Souljah> `/usr/share/amsn/plugins' -> `aMSN Live-1.0/plugins'
[10:39] <Souljah> that
[10:40] <zcat[1] > ummm.. I think so..
[10:40] <kahrytan> non|inear: It just needs memory for cache.  I can leave it running in screen and log off that way.. who needs a GUI?!!
[10:42] <Souljah> ompaul :(.. it moved the /usr/share/amsn/plugins folder inside the aMSN folder on my desktop
[10:42] <non|inear> in lunix, is it possible to use disk utils like defrag and check disk on ntfs, and ivce versa?
[10:42] <Souljah> how did that happen
[10:42] <non|inear> so wine is a pc emulator?
[10:42] <rausb0> zcat[1] : screen(1) is king!
[10:42] <non|inear> i mean windows
[10:42] <aftertaf> not exactly
[10:42] <crimsun> keve1: modprobe snd_hda_intel model=auto
[10:42] <zcat[1] > non|inear, Probably not in lunix .. perhaps in Linux though
[10:42] <aftertaf> www.winehq
[10:42] <non|inear> heh
[10:43] <keve1> crimsun: ahh I was doing mode=. thanks
[10:43] <non|inear> zcat can i really
[10:43] <ompaul> Souljah, ehh then you did not read what I said. mv works as mv what-needs-to-be-moved to-where-it-needs-to-be-moved
[10:43] <aftertaf> oops, orgot the top level domain*
[10:43] <elifed> non|inear, more like libraries and system calls
[10:43] <non|inear> causwe i got some stuff i gotta take care of
[10:43] <SnapLinux> bahh the x.org driver hosed x windows
[10:43] <Souljah> arrgghh.. ok.. ompaul is there an undo operation
[10:43] <Parmenion> hey guys, how do i setup a greeting for myself when i open a terminal ?
[10:43] <Souljah> of what i just did
[10:43] <ompaul> Souljah, no just move it the way i said - so you mv the stuff to where you want it
[10:44] <MindOfChaos> wtf do you want a greeting for?
[10:44] <zcat[1] > ahh, not for ntfs, I wouldn't think.. except perhaps using windows defrag in windows in a virtual machine
[10:44] <non|inear> hrm
[10:44] <non|inear> ok
[10:44] <Parmenion> MindOfChaos: i just want it to spit a greeting to me when i open a terminal
[10:44] <Parmenion> thats all ... something like those fortune files
[10:44] <aftertaf> for data partitions id recommend using ext3 and IFS on Windows
[10:44] <zcat[1] > I think there's a linux defrag program for fat32 somewhere.. there's one for ext2 iirc..
[10:44] <non|inear> i just have like<PHONE_NUMBER>7 tiny questions, sorry guys, haven't used a linux distribution lke this before
[10:44] <MindOfChaos> Parmenion learn to edit the source code
[10:45] <keve1> crimson: nope
[10:45] <Parmenion> MindOfChaos: I do :P i just need to know which file to meddle with
[10:45] <jarrett> Parmenion: edit .bashrc in your home
[10:45] <Parmenion> thanks jarrett
[10:46] <SnapLinux> so easy on my old laptop but my new one driving me crazy
[10:46] <yokomo> I am having problems installing ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop.  It gets to squashfs and starts to lead, then my screen goes black and nothing loads.  any ideas?
[10:46] <yokomo> lead=load
[10:46] <non|inear> someone in here earlier said there was something so you could write to ntfs, it was a plugin or something?  is that a good way?  i don't want fat disks
[10:46] <aftertaf> use ext3 instead then!!!
[10:47] <aftertaf> windows can read and write to them with a driver installed.
[10:47] <non|inear> well i want to share with xp
[10:47] <zcat[1] > !ntfs-3g | non|inear
[10:47] <ubotu> non|inear: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:47] <SnapLinux> its like they purposly built that thing stricly for windows ...it just fights linux everywhere
[10:47] <non|inear> i have to actually, cause i need xp for work
[10:47] <non|inear> is  ntfs-3g fast/reliabel
[10:47] <keve1> Crimson: I got work tomorrow. tired. Can we try again tomorrow?
[10:47] <lkthomas> does kmail have anything better than thunderbird ?
[10:47] <Souljah> ok it worked. thanks ompaul.
[10:47] <non|inear> like if i want to move 20 gb while surfing the web and checking email
[10:47] <ompaul> Souljah, np
[10:48] <Souljah> also ompaul i managed to mess up my usplash image
[10:48] <Souljah> it's removed
[10:48] <Souljah> how can i add it back
[10:48] <zcat[1] > there's also an ext3 driver for windows.. so you can share either filesystem.. using ext3 under windows is probably safer though since that driver was written for a documented filesystem
[10:48] <non|inear> hrm...
[10:48] <aftertaf> non|inear: you can avoid ntfs.... http://www.fs-driver.org/
[10:48] <crimsun> keve1: I'll likely be busy, but sure.
[10:48] <ompaul> !usplash  | Souljah
[10:48] <ubotu> Souljah: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[10:48] <|carlos|t41|> zzzz
[10:49] <keve1> crimsun: thanks. lates.
[10:49] <non|inear> well i want ntfs drives cause i think it would be more stable and faster for XP, i have to do a buch of data analysis and simulations for work
[10:49] <yehweh> chriso: any luck with the password?
[10:49] <non|inear> k i'll check it out thnkx
[10:49] <Souljah> ok
[10:49] <aftertaf> lol, you said XP and stable in the same phrase :)
[10:49] <non|inear> and BTW, this community is great, thank you all so much, i would be nowhere with this without the community
[10:50] <aftertaf> ditto that
[10:50] <Parmenion> thanks jarrett
[10:50] <jarrett> non|inear: the driver is stable, read up on it a little http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
[10:50] <non|inear> groovy
[10:50] <jarrett> Parmenion: np, glad i could help
[10:50] <non|inear> i'll check it out rite now
[10:50] <jackie> Hi!! I want to install ubuntu on an existing partioning schema without formatting /. However the installation complains that it *needs* to format /
[10:50] <aftertaf> non|inear: for info... i ve been usingIFS  for a while now, and the rapidity of data access from xp is very fast, IMHO much more than ntfs
[10:50] <non|inear> really?
[10:51] <non|inear> ok
[10:51] <aftertaf> just an impression..... but yeah
[10:51] <non|inear> that would be great
[10:51] <non|inear> heh
[10:51] <aftertaf> for accessing a 30gb partition of mp3s. Its much faster opening explorer
[10:51] <zcat[1] > If you don't format / it's likely to leave all kinds of crap (old libraries and stuff) all over the place...
[10:52] <aftertaf> you format your drive, boot to windows, instal ifs, mount the drive as a letter and basta
[10:52] <jackie> zcat[1]  I know... that's the idea..
[10:52] <non|inear> i just sent like 3 weeks optimizing and tweaking for xp, so dpn't wanna slow things down with my freetime stuff lol
[10:52] <aftertaf> give it a try....
[10:52] <non|inear> oh yea, how can i play mp3s?
[10:52] <moDumass> hey all, im having strange issues, i am trying to "/home/evilsherpa/Desktop/Songbird_0_2_5_linux-i686.tar.gz" but i get an error
[10:52] <sampbar_> getdebs.com
[10:53] <sampbar_> then search for songbird
[10:53] <moDumass> mv: cannot stat `Songbird_0_2_5_linux-i686.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[10:53] <zcat[1] > jackie: no, the idea is to put /home on a different partition so you can cleanly reinstall without losing the stuff you actually want to keep
[10:53] <moDumass> its on my desktop
[10:53] <zcat[1] > !codecs | non|inear
[10:53] <ubotu> non|inear: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:53] <sampbar_> moDumass: getdebs.com then search for songbird and use the .deb
[10:53] <non|inear> ok
[10:53] <yokomo> I can't get 7.04 to install on my laptop.  I dl'd the i386 ubuntu desktop iso, ran md5sum check on it.  it checks out ok.  tried checking cd in menu.  THAT checked out ok.  Everytime I try to install, it gets to squashfs and my monitor turns black and the machine completely stops.  suggestions?
[10:54] <aftertaf> yokomo: do you have a SATA controller?
[10:54] <non|inear> i'm sure i could figour it out in like 2 secs on google or forums, but it's so easy to ask
[10:54] <moDumass> and im using term from user@user-desktop:~$
[10:54] <non|inear> thanks guys
[10:54] <karimfayez> hey guys...
[10:54] <yokomo> aftertaf  don't believe so....
[10:54] <sampbar_> moDumass: use the deb
[10:54] <aftertaf> ok. dont know then....
[10:54] <aftertaf> ok. im outta here )
[10:55] <karimfayez> i have a laoptop dell inspiron 6400 with an ati card device..it doesnt boot into the graphical interface..what to do??
[10:55] <eck> yokomo: you might just want to try using the alternate cd
[10:55] <crimsun> karimfayez: use the alternate installer if the desktop installer fails.  Then enable fglrx.
[10:55] <crdlb> and if fglrx fails...
[10:55] <jarrett> !topic
[10:55] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[10:55] <yokomo> what's on the alternate cd?
[10:56] <Jowi> !alternate
[10:56] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[10:56] <moDumass> sampbar what is getdebs.com?
[10:56] <sampbar_> moDumass: a website with .debs on
[10:56] <non|inear> the alternate cd is rad... i couldn't get the stupid desktop one to work
[10:56] <karimfayez> how to enable fglrx???
[10:56] <zcat[1] > yokomo, if you press F1 at the boot prompt there's a bunch of options; I think one of them is using vesa instead of the ati drivers which might help you
[10:57] <yokomo> how would that be any different other than it's a text based installer?
[10:57] <yokomo> zcat[1] : really?  ok
[10:57] <moDumass> sampbar i get this http://www.google.com.au/search?q=getdebs.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[10:57] <yokomo> i will try that
[10:57] <zcat[1] > from memory... :)
[10:57] <moDumass> or this http://www.getdebs.com/
[10:57] <moDumass> server not found
[10:57] <non|inear> well, i was able to get initrd and vmlinux files that let me install from my hd which was fast and cool
[10:57] <zcat[1] > or save vga mode?
[10:57] <moDumass> BTW sorry if im just being ultra slow
[10:58] <zcat[1] > saFe vga mode..
[10:58] <non|inear> but u could do those with the desktop cd too
[10:59] <karimfayez> crimsun how do i enable fglrx??
[10:59] <aldaek> im having problems updating to ubuntu 7.04. im getting the following error: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[10:59] <jeremyb> Bo0m: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230870
[11:00] <jeremyb> anyone have a timezone for him?
[11:01] <non|inear> k... how do i kill a process
[11:01] <aldaek> DST should be voted out, imho!
[11:01] <non|inear> heh
[11:01] <jeremyb> aldaek: why?
[11:01] <jeremyb> non|inear: try kill
[11:01] <karimfayez> anybody knows how to enable fglrx???
[11:01] <sampbar_> sorry its: http://www.getdeb.net/
[11:02] <non|inear> is ther a way on the gui
[11:02] <zcat[1] > non|inear, in the gui, alt-F2 xkill and you ket a kill cursor.. will kill whatever you click on.
[11:02] <non|inear> ok cool
[11:02] <HOT> open a terminal and type xkill then click the application
[11:02] <non|inear> oh alt-f2 is rad
[11:02] <aldaek> the change should be unnecessary
[11:02] <jeremyb> isn't there a keyboard shortcut for the same cursor
[11:02] <jeremyb> ?
[11:02] <aldaek> i know it saves energy and all.
[11:02] <zcat[1] > HOT, terminal?
[11:02] <aldaek> im having problems updating to ubuntu 7.04. im getting the following error: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[11:02] <HOT> or alt + f2
[11:03] <zcat[1] > hehe.. terminal window scares newb's .. I try to avoid suggesting it :)
[11:03] <non|inear> kinda like alt + tab
[11:03] <HOT> true
[11:03] <non|inear> what is shortcut for copy and paste
[11:03] <HOT> altough alt f2 is actually term in a nice gzli wrapper
[11:03] <DBFT> is it only me who Gnome XChat has no user list? :@
[11:03] <zcat[1] > ^C / ^V just like 'doze
[11:03] <jeremyb> ctrl-c; ctrl-v don't work?
[11:03] <Souljah> on the terminal
[11:03] <non|inear> nope
[11:03] <Parmenion> DBFT: same here :Pi
[11:04] <Souljah> ctrl c doesn't work
[11:04] <aldaek> you mean, microvell?
[11:04] <Possum> middle click
[11:04] <DBFT> how do I get it parmenion? :P
[11:04] <jeremyb> non|inear: throw in a shift
[11:04] <crdlb> DBFT: you have to click the button in the bottom left
[11:04] <jarrett> DBFT: i also use gnome xchat
[11:04] <non|inear> it wasn't working in terminal or the openoffice word thing
[11:04] <scriptdevil> How long does ubuntu take to boot?
[11:04] <sampbar> :) my wireless is working
[11:04] <Parmenion> no idea DBFT ...it isnt on xchat either
[11:04] <non|inear> ctrl+shift+c lol
[11:04] <zcat[1] > terminal is an odd case since ^c and so on already have a purpose there..
[11:04] <non|inear> i need more fingers
[11:04] <DBFT> i think i'll switch to normal xchat if you dont get a userlist :p
[11:04] <Possum> hilight then middle click!!!
[11:04] <Parmenion> scriptdevil: depends ... under 20s for me
[11:04] <non|inear> yea
[11:04] <Parmenion> DBFT: it isnt there under normal xchat either
[11:05] <scriptdevil> Parmenion: not bad.. gentoo takes about 12-14 on mine..
[11:05] <DBFT> it is, I just formatted-  I used to use xchat and it wa sthere
[11:05] <Possum> Hilight is COPYmiddle click is PASTE -- it is built into X
[11:05] <jamie>  greetings
[11:05] <jamie> [10:04]  <jamie> looking for help with wifi (ipw3945) which has broken after an update, anyone free and willing?
[11:05] <scriptdevil> Parmenion: so i expected about 30 for ubuntu
[11:05] <DBFT> I just decided to try this one since it was on the list :)
[11:05] <aldaek> im having problems updating to ubuntu 7.04. im getting the following error: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[11:05] <johnt> zcat[1]  Durned women!!!
[11:05] <zcat[1] > I was quite surprised to discover you can drag and drop highlighted text, even from one app to another..
[11:05] <Possum> blah, this shell is really slow connection
[11:05] <adb> hi, anyone understand udev stuff in feisty? my palm pilot configuration no longer works after the upgrade
[11:06] <DBFT> anyway, onto my real question
[11:06] <Parmenion> scriptdevil: my laptop :P ... my mother's p3 takes around 15s from coldboot to login
[11:06] <Possum> yea, dragndrop works too... but hilight and MIDDLECLICKis VERYuseful
[11:06] <DBFT> i've installed xampp for quick testing - but i had to install it as root (sudo) so i cant actually change files inside the htdocs directory
[11:06] <zcat[1] > johnt, she still hogging the machine?
[11:06] <adb> before files such as /dev/ttyUSB1 etc must have been created
[11:06] <scriptdevil> Parmenion: mine is a p4-2.8gz with a one gig ram
[11:06] <aldaek> im having problems updating to ubuntu 7.04. im getting the following error: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2). google is not enlightening me on how to fix it. any leads?
[11:06] <DBFT> how would i give myself permission to edit inside /opt/lampp/htdocs
[11:06] <Possum> Am I on ignore? XD
[11:06] <johnt> zcat[1]  I still cant get to the puter but I had a read of the devede and it seems simple enough even for me to use so I will do that tommorrow I think
[11:06] <jamie> is this the right place to scream HELP?
[11:07] <scriptdevil> aldaek: dont repeat...
[11:07] <Parmenion> DBFT: precede your command with sudp
[11:07] <aldaek> jamie, not sure. ask the question you have.
[11:07] <Parmenion> *sudo
[11:07] <non|inear> tyea theres tons of awesome features.. when i first tried ubuntu, i wondered how anyone could use ms anymore when this is so much more powerful and functoinal... and way easier once you get the hang of things
[11:07] <jamie> aldaek: ipw3945 broke after update
[11:07] <DBFT> yeah
[11:07] <aldaek> im still trying to update to 7.04 with a fetch error
[11:07] <DBFT> but i dont want to do that every time
[11:07] <jamie> aldaek: and i have exhausted my capacity to understand why i can sort it
[11:07] <adb> now i get a bunch of flles named /dev/usbdev1.15_ep0 etc
[11:07] <johnt> zcat[1]  Yes and I am scared of her lol
[11:07] <jamie> *cannot
[11:07] <zcat[1] > john, cool.. yeah, it was pretty easy here. Generates an iso I think for dvd .. bin and cue file for vcd's since they're not just a plain filesystem. Just rightclick the iso or cue file and burn it to a disk as normal..
[11:08] <Parmenion> jamie: whats the problem ?
[11:08] <jeremyb> adb: not files
[11:08] <Possum> DBFT, you can get a root shell with sudo -i or sudo su
[11:08] <jamie> Parmenion: ipw3945 stopped working after an update, feisty, thus wireless is hosed
[11:08] <sampbar> moDumass: hows it going?
[11:08] <DBFT> ok, im not going to be working on the terminal the whole time though
[11:08] <DBFT> is my point
[11:08] <Parmenion> jamie: ipw3945 is your wireless card's driver ?
[11:09] <scriptdevil> the only thing i am worried about is.. i dont wanna find ubuntu  too easy.. it will feel like being back at ms.. i am 100% sure, i willl join the bug testers
[11:09] <jamie> Parmenion: yes
[11:09] <DBFT> i need to set permission so i can do it from within gui applications
[11:09] <Parmenion> jamie: try using ndiswrapper to work through
[11:09] <SnapLinux> hardware vendors really need to offer better linux support......broadcoms' reluctance, and outright sabatoge driving me nuts
[11:09] <tondar> what is the best osx dock imitator out there?
[11:09] <scriptdevil> DBFT: i think you can do xhost + localhost
[11:09] <scriptdevil> tondar: gdesklets?
[11:09] <Parmenion> SnapLinux: true ... but you can get around Broadcom ... dont like it though . too much of work
[11:09] <adb> jeremyb: what are they? and why are there 5 of them?
[11:09] <zcat[1] > SnapLinux, perhaps you need to offer less support to broadcom by not buying their crap? :)
[11:10] <Possum> tondar, "best" is difficult... a lot of people will say kiba-dock or engage
[11:10] <DBFT> sorry, scriptdevil?
[11:10] <doron> hi, my system is overall slugish and when I start ZappingTV or Ktv ubuntu freezes and I need to reboot, how can I debug this ?
[11:10] <jeremyb> adb: block devices?  idk
[11:10] <tondar> ok
[11:10] <ideasman_42> hey guys
[11:10] <jeremyb> adb: stat them if you want to know
[11:10] <SnapLinux> zcat[1]  most laptops using bc wireless
[11:10] <ideasman_42> Im just installing ubuntu on my dads laptop
[11:10] <doron> that problem appeared only in the past few days
[11:10] <tondar> I should rephrase that, which is the easiest (installation)??
[11:10] <yehweh> tondar: Well some people disagree with me. But if you want an imitator for os x dock try avn with beryl on
[11:10] <zcat[1] > SnapLinux, yeah, I noticed that.. damn annoying
[11:11] <SnapLinux> i bught the laptop not the wireless card
[11:11] <jamie> Parmenion: do you think that the way to go instead of trying to compile a new driver
[11:11] <TShadow> Hi to all
[11:11] <ideasman_42> and its only got 256 meg of ram. aparently thats a minimum. but it seems to be too little
[11:11] <Possum> yehweh, avn? I'll have to look that up >.>
[11:11] <HOT> tondar: i found avn to be pretty good and simple to set up
[11:11] <Myrtti> ideasman_42: try xubuntu
[11:11] <tondar> yehweh: actually using that right now, but not alot of flexibility
[11:11] <Parmenion> jamie: its easier to use ndiswrapper
[11:11] <ideasman_42> Myrtti, does the installer use less ram?
[11:11] <Parmenion> AFAIK though
[11:11] <TShadow> excuse me, are there someone who know frost well ?
[11:11] <tondar> HOT: yeah me too but read my reason for it
[11:11] <Parmenion> ideasman_42: use xubuntu alternate
[11:12] <scriptdevil> ideasman_42: use the alternate installer.. needs only 64mb ram
[11:12] <yehweh> aah I know but that the best we have right now ;)
[11:12] <ideasman_42> wow ;)
[11:12] <kust0m> ideasman_42: the whole distro uses less memory with xubuntu because it doesn't run gnome.
[11:12] <ideasman_42> and there is no way to get the normal installer to run slicker?
[11:12] <jamie> Parmenion: i will try
[11:12] <zcat[1] > 256m is barely enough to run the gui installer.. I'd use alternate
[11:12] <ideasman_42> Eg, load X11, no gnome
[11:12] <scriptdevil> kust0m: fluxbuntu is gonna be the hack
[11:12] <tondar> yehweh: how do I add some launchers to it?
[11:12] <kust0m> ideasman_42: that's why you use the alternate..heh
[11:12] <tondar> hey PriceChild
[11:12] <tondar> ;)
[11:12] <Possum> jeremyb, :P
[11:13] <ideasman_42> kust0m, and theres only alternate for xubuntu?
[11:13] <kust0m> scriptdevil: absolutely. i bet the install is WAY smaller too.
[11:13] <yehweh> coz I used kiba and it sucked. I hated it
[11:13] <tondar> tondar == hadiriazi
[11:13] <scriptdevil> ideasman_42: fluxubuntu is my best bet.. but it isnt outta beta
[11:13] <kust0m> ideasman_42: no, there's an alternate for ubuntu as well
[11:13] <yehweh> drag and drop simple
[11:13] <scriptdevil> kust0m: iso is only 309mb
[11:13] <SnapLinux> M$ paid broadcom a huge chunk of money to not support linux knowing almost 90% of laptops would use those wifi cards
[11:13] <tondar> HOT: any ideas? adding launchers to avn?
[11:13] <kust0m> scriptdevil: that's like .. barely bigger than the server install..if it's even bigger
[11:13] <ideasman_42> Another option for me is to enable swap before X launches
[11:14] <jarrett> SnapLinux: im not surprised
[11:14] <kust0m> SnapLinux: that's uber lame. i have broadcom in my lappy.
[11:14] <tondar> sorry folks brb
[11:14] <yehweh> tondar: Drag and drop the stuff you want to add tothe launcher
[11:14] <ubuntubeginz> hi, initially i didnt have swap partition.. so i went back to windows and resized my ubuntu partition to 2 parts...one for the current ubuntu...and the other for the linux swap partition.. how do i configure the ubuntu to recognize the swap partition now...thanks
[11:14] <HOT> tondar: i just drag them onto the bar
[11:14] <sampbar> use ndiswrapper or the native drivers
[11:14] <scriptdevil> kust0m: i am downloading that now.. but i will switch to evilwm
[11:14] <ideasman_42> thanks guys! - Ill poke about
[11:14] <tondar> yehweh: yeah but how about show desktop and network ststus??
[11:14] <HOT> my broadcom was up and working in one paste into terminal with fiesty, must have got lucky...
[11:14] <zcat[1] > SnapLinux, getting OT here, but you know protected media path has very little to do with DRM and everything to do with getting manufacturers to build hardware that's anti-linux by design
[11:15] <tondar> HOT: from where do you drag them?
[11:15] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: is ubuntu installed?
[11:15] <kust0m> HOT: but was it working well?
[11:15] <zcat[1] > MSFT piss me off..
[11:15] <HOT> tondar: from the gnome bar i left at the top
[11:15] <SnapLinux> ive got mine working but i get dialup performance out of it
[11:15] <yehweh> oppps dont know :D never tried
[11:15] <dex> hi
[11:15] <ubuntubeginz> scriptdevil: yeah..i am in ubuntu envrionement now
[11:15] <HOT> kust0m: yes i get full througout
[11:15] <tondar> HOT: same as me
[11:15] <ideasman_42> Btw, I really love ubunto, my girlfriend left her job and works at home using ubuntu for admin work... she likes also
[11:15] <HOT> erm throughput
[11:15] <tondar> HOT: you have a desktop show too?
[11:15] <scriptdevil> swapon /dev/hdXY
[11:15] <kust0m> SnapLinux: someone else here said the same thing about theirs.
[11:15] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: swapon device name
[11:15] <tondar> HOT: also I want my home dir to be there too
[11:16] <dex> I'm having some troubles with GStreamer, can anyone help?
[11:16] <SnapLinux> under sabayon it works great out of the box
[11:16] <HOT> tondar: drag from places / home onto the avn bar
[11:16] <SnapLinux> but i cant stand sabayons package manager
[11:16] <ubuntubeginz> scriptdevil : but i cant see the swap partition....or where to find it...
[11:16] <tondar> HOT: will try
[11:16] <jarrett> dex: dont ask to ask, just ask, if someone knows they will let you know
[11:16] <SnapLinux> confusing as all getout
[11:16] <HOT> tondar: it works i just did it
[11:17] <tondar> HOT: thanks
[11:17] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: sudo fdisk -l?
[11:17] <tondar> HOT: yeah
[11:17] <adb> ah - should have googled a bit more. in feisty you have to explicitly load the visor module - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/99329
[11:17] <tondar> HOT: how about show desktop
[11:17] <tondar> ?
[11:17] <dex> jarrett: ok...
[11:18] <HOT> tondar: no, it executes the command when i try to drag it, i can probly get it to work though
[11:18] <SnapLinux> ive been giving away all my desktops im going all laptop
[11:18] <kfarrell> Hello, I've run beryl-manager, but my windows have no frames. What have I forgotten?
[11:18] <cyphase> is it possible to create an ncurses interface in bash?
[11:18] <kust0m> SnapLinux: wait till you decide to upgrade a laptop..and can't
[11:18] <tondar> HOT: plz do so, once done tell me how
[11:18] <tondar> HOT: thanks
[11:18] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: you can pm me
[11:19] <tondar> brb
[11:19] <crdlb> kfarrell: #ubuntu-effects
[11:19] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: if you want~
[11:19] <kfarrell> ty
[11:19] <zcat[1] > SnapLinux, I'd be happy with just one laptop.. mine barely runs, and something stops working every time I move it :(
[11:19] <SnapLinux> kust0m dont need to upgrade just get new one
[11:19] <kust0m> SnapLinux: What can I say..I'm cheap.
[11:20] <ubuntubeginz> scriptdevil:hi..i have run that command... so how do knoe that it is werking now
[11:20] <zcat[1] > I think one day I'm gonna back the car over it and get a new one on insurance..
[11:20] <SnapLinux> pfft my amd 64 x2 under 800 bucks
[11:20] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: do a sudo fdisk -l .. find out the partition name which is swap.
[11:20] <kust0m> SnapLinux: When I bought my Athlon 64 3400 it was a pretty sick laptop. Too bad it was like $1800.
[11:20] <SnapLinux> 80 gig drive a gig of ram.....i wont need new machine till it breaks
[11:20] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: then mkswap /dev/(partition name say hda2)
[11:21] <ubuntubeginz> scriptdevil: yeah i have typed the swapon command ordi
[11:21] <kust0m> ubuntubeginz: run 'sudo cat /proc/meminfo' and see if it lists any swap then
[11:22] <SnapLinux> id like to replace the wifi card it doable but more expensive than its worth
[11:22] <zcat[1] > you don't have to sudo that
[11:22] <yehweh> SnapLinux: Thats what I said when I had a 486
[11:22] <kust0m> zcat: wasn't sure.
[11:22] <Shimete> when i do anything with the sound control i get the following message, "no volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" i need some help getting this to work...
[11:22] <SnapLinux> i shipped off my dual p2 400 xeon off to a buddy in oregon
[11:22] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: one sec..  http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/custom-guide/s1-swap-adding.html
[11:23] <ubuntubeginz> scriptdevil: yeah i have run /proc/meminfo cmd... i see a list of values...does this mean my swap is config
[11:23] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: it will help you
[11:23] <SnapLinux> ive got an athlon 750 left to give away
[11:23] <kust0m> ubuntubeginz: ok..try this 'cat /proc/meminfo | grep Swap'
[11:23] <SnapLinux> ill be lrft with a p3 1ghz lappy and my presario lappy
[11:24] <SnapLinux> reloading fiesty on the amd64  i hosed up x windows but good last time lol
[11:24] <ubuntubeginz> i get three values... swapcached | swaptotal |swapFree ...
[11:25] <kust0m> ubuntubeginz: and what are the values for swaptotal and swapfree?
[11:25] <zcat[1] > ubuntubeginz, total is nonzero?
[11:25] <scriptdevil> kust0m: ubuntubeginz does any of them non zero
[11:25] <karimfayez> how to enable fglrx???
[11:25] <scriptdevil> zcat[1] : you beat me to it :P
[11:25] <zcat[1] > hehe
[11:25] <jarrett> Shimete: what sound card are you using, and did it ever work before?
[11:25] <fierycleric> sweet , running virtual feisty in qemu , slow but usable :)
[11:26] <jcolagro> Hi all
[11:26] <jcolagro> I come back again
[11:26] <jcolagro> about my ati rage mobility 128 problem with feisty fawn
[11:26] <moDumass> hmm, since the .tar.gz is on my desktop why is this not working "sudo mv Songbird_0_2_5_linux-i686.tar.gz /opt"
[11:26] <ubuntubeginz> this are my values : swapCached:          0 kB     SwapTotal:     2104472 kB                 SwapFree:      2104472 k
[11:26] <kust0m> ubuntubeginz: you're set.
[11:27] <jcolagro> I am unable to choose a correct driver to set-up my video card
[11:27] <jcolagro> problem I did have with ubuntu 6.10
[11:27] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: add it to ur boot in /etc/fstab
[11:27] <mwe> moDumass: what does it say?
[11:27] <zcat[1] > moDumass, you in ~/Desktop or just ~ ?
[11:29] <scriptdevil> in /etc/fstab type /dev/hdXY               swap                    swap    defaults        0 0
[11:29] <moDumass> "modumass@modumass-desktop:~$" is where im at, and in term i type that command and it prints this mv: cannot stat `Songbird_0_2_5_linux-i686.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[11:29] <jont> test
[11:29] <zcat[1] > moDumass, cd Desktop, then try again
[11:29] <moDumass> haha, sorry im well, dim
[11:30] <zcat[1] > fairly unimaginitave computer name too
[11:30] <AmyRose> Why the heck does FreeNode keep sending me the ban list for this channel?
[11:31] <KalElVZ> Can I ask a tech question here?
[11:31] <zcat[1] > !ask | KalElVZ
[11:31] <ubotu> KalElVZ: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:31] <moDumass> zcat, super
[11:31] <KalElVZ> (d'oh! already made a mistake. grr.)
[11:31] <scriptdevil> KalElVZ: everybody makes themm :D
[11:32] <zcat[1] > KalElVZ, that's OK.. it's on a trigger 'cos we get that 5 times an hour around here..
[11:32] <KalElVZ> alright, I'm trying to load up Ubuntu, and there's a REALLY loud screeching noise that comes up as it's loading. The computer freezes up, and I have to reboot. I tried loading in Recovery Mode; same thing.
[11:32] <KalElVZ> zcat-> lol
[11:32] <scriptdevil> KalElVZ: your cd drive
[11:32] <KalElVZ> What about it?
[11:33] <scriptdevil> software doesnt make sounds
[11:33] <kirkunit> can i ask if I can ask to ask?
[11:33] <zcat[1] > kirkunit, can I slap you?
[11:33] <scriptdevil> kirkunit: i can tell you that you have to tell yourself to answer that
[11:33] <SnapLinux> only if your not really going to ask
[11:33] <ubuntubeginz> scriptdevil: oh the next time , i restart the swap partition will automatically configured rite...
[11:33] <ubuntubeginz> restart the machine..
[11:33] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: if you added that to /etc/fstab
[11:33] <zcat[1] > ubuntubeginz, if your fstab is correct...
[11:33] <Logi> I've got a number of removable usb devices. I can have them autmotacially mounted when I plug them in by doing nothing and I can have them mounted in specific locations by adding them to /etc/fstab with a UUID=, but then they are no longer automatically mounted. Is there a way to have them automatically mounted in a specific location? A FM to R would be fine.
[11:33] <KalElVZ> ScriptDevil: so i need to do what to my CD drive in order for that to not happen?
[11:34] <scriptdevil> KalElVZ: try some other cd
[11:34] <Logi> automatically (monday morning syndrome... at elast I'm not trying to write code)
[11:34] <scriptdevil> check if there is the screeching noise...
[11:34] <KalElVZ> SD: There's no CD in the drive though.
[11:34] <KalElVZ> ANd it only happens when I load Ubuntu. Not with windows.
[11:34] <zcat[1] > KalElVZ, can you find out where's the sound coming from? PC speaker? external speakers? CPU fan?
[11:34] <moDumass> zcat, how would i now extract it to the /opt directory?
[11:34] <scriptdevil> KalElVZ: you mean while installing ubuntu or using ubuntu
[11:35] <scriptdevil> ?
[11:35] <zcat[1] > moDumass, cd /opt ; sudo tar xzf whateveritwas.tar.gz
[11:35] <ttuuxxx>  does anyone have a spare business requirement document for a website?
[11:35] <KalElVZ> zcat: it's a laptop, and it (sd-- using ubuntu) sounds like a mono sound, so i'm guessing the pc speaker
[11:35] <scriptdevil> KalElVZ: sorry.. i thought the disk was doing it.. ok.. set mike volume to zero
[11:36] <KalElVZ> SD: Also, I've used Ubuntu just fine for a few weeks- it just started happening. How do I set it to 0 if I haven't even loaded the OS yet?
[11:36] <ttuuxxx> zcat it could be a driver, or your eq setting, or your sound setting, it can be a lot of things
[11:36] <scriptdevil> KalElVZ: oops.... am confused..
[11:36] <yehweh> ttuuxxx: what are you taling abt? If you are talking abt a BRD you are at a wring place
[11:36] <KalElVZ> Lol.  I'm going to leave the CD drive open, then just *allow* the screeching to go on and see if it'll continue booting.
[11:37] <KalElVZ> Oh. Right.
[11:37] <ttuuxxx> so i'm yehweh do you have  a spare business requirement document for a website?
[11:37] <KalElVZ> Exactly what you said Zcat
[11:37] <KalElVZ> :)
[11:37] <CheshireViking> !install > CheshireViking
[11:37] <scriptdevil> zcat[1] : i wont say that because mikes dont cause an os to hang
[11:37] <sarthor> Hi, i have install xchat-gnome 0.13 on my ubunutu, but i cant see the Buddy list on the side? tell me how to disply the buddy list. i can see it iwth ctrl+u but it get disapear soon.
[11:37] <ubuntubeginz> thanks scripdevil.... gonna restart the pc and see the *effect*
[11:38] <scriptdevil> ubuntubeginz: sure thing
[11:38] <KalElVZ> Well I'll see what happens. Hopefully it'll work. I'll come back and let you guys know. Thanks a bunch! :)
[11:38] <zcat[1] > KalElVZ, ummm.. you're booting from the install cd? in that case the levels should be whatever they always were..
[11:38] <KalElVZ> (no booting from the hd)
[11:38] <scriptdevil> :D i feel good down here.. and i havent even installed ubuntu yet :D
[11:38] <Lopi_> #ubuntu-pl
[11:38] <KalElVZ> take care guys. ciao. be back in ... a while. :P
[11:38] <sarthor> Hi, i have install xchat-gnome 0.13 on my ubunutu, but i cant see the Buddy list on the side? tell me how to disply the buddy list. i can see it iwth ctrl+u but it get disapear soon.
[11:38] <nanda_ca_tmn> hi
[11:38] <zcat[1] > KalElVZ, hmm.. yeah, see if it boots, then go to the mixer and see if mic is turned on
[11:39] <Logi> Lopi_: your g is inverted mate :)
[11:39] <SnapLinux> xchat going onto the 64
[11:39] <yehweh> I do but am affraid I cant share... I will see if i can find a template ., sox compliant and all the works
[11:39] <scriptdevil> Logi: not if it was lopez
[11:39] <argh> mmm i know this a question already asked but is there a way to suspend or hibernate with nvidia driver activated?
[11:39] <jackie> ...
[11:40] <sarthor> Hi, i have install xchat-gnome 0.13 on my ubunutu, but i cant see the Buddy list on the side? tell me how to disply the buddy list. i can see it iwth ctrl+u but it get disapear soon.
[11:40] <Lopi_> is any programs (graphical program) what help me copy /home partition to the other disk or the other place?
[11:40] <snap64> click the users button to the left of text  entry
[11:40] <scriptdevil> sarthor: you wil get a better answer at #xchat
[11:40] <sarthor> scriptdevil: OK, Thank you.
[11:41] <nanda_ca_tmn> hi
[11:41] <argh> mmm i know this a question already asked but is there a way to suspend or hibernate with nvidia driver activated? suspend2 could help?
[11:41] <scriptdevil> Lopi_: say.. why nt just cp?
[11:41] <scriptdevil> Lopi_: or probably your file manager?
[11:41] <jackie> Lopi_ copy -Rvf /home /other or tar -jcvf home.tar.bz /home and than cp the arhcive
[11:41] <moDumass> haha
[11:41] <moDumass> success
[11:42] <moDumass> i love it when i sort sh1t out on my own
[11:42] <moDumass> rarely, but cool
[11:42] <argh> no one knows?
[11:42] <jackie> Lopi_ I would first build the archive and than move the archive around
[11:42] <kust0m> jackie: you can use tar jcvf /full/path/to/other/location/home.tar.bz /home
[11:43] <scriptdevil> argh: google it.. i got some answers http://en.opensuse.org/NVidia_Suspend_HOWTO
[11:43] <argh> tnx
[11:43] <rkmaroon> hi, just have to share this ... dammit i love ubuntu, running a new install of feisty on a C2D with beryl and everything on an xfs / ... it's just rock solid!
[11:43] <rkmaroon> amazing!
[11:43] <crocd> has anybody had any issues with fluxbox on feisty/
[11:43] <Lopi_> jackie: but can i make archive  for example tar of all /home partition? with .folders??
[11:44] <hylje> Lopi_: yes
[11:44] <argh> i suggest all to try the mac look
[11:44] <Lopi_> ok i will try:)
[11:44] <kust0m> argh: ?
[11:44] <scriptdevil> argh: .. i love the evilwm look...
[11:45] <argh> how is evilwm?
[11:45] <majnoon>  anyone else having trouble burning cdroms after upgrade to feisty ??
[11:45] <scriptdevil> argh: it is evil
[11:45] <argh> gnome compatible?
[11:45] <DanaG> How do I set the I/O range of the virtual NIC in Qemu?  Win3.11 doesn't allow anything outside 0x0200 or 0x03E0.
[11:45] <tondar> HOT: so, did u try?
[11:45] <scriptdevil> argh: it can be an independent wm
[11:45] <scriptdevil> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Image:Evilwm.jpg
[11:46] <kust0m> that might be the ugliest wm i've ever seen.
[11:46] <argh> i'll google it
[11:46] <DanaG> Oh wait, that's base IO port.
[11:46] <rkmaroon> /leave "Love shared, mission complete"
[11:46] <rkmaroon> oops, sorry
[11:46] <kust0m> oh..that's not bad. the other screenshot i found was awful.
[11:46] <DanaG> Do any of you run Linux on Qemu?
[11:46] <DanaG> I need to see what the "Base I/O Port" is for the virtual NIC.
[11:47] <scriptdevil> kust0m: it is real good.. it looks like a plain screen.. everything is through keybindings
[11:47] <jackie> Lopi_ tar -jcvf backup.tar.bz2 /home
[11:47] <scriptdevil> kust0m: and it is so fast.... ony 33kb
[11:47] <kust0m> scriptdevil: hmm. i might have to check it out.. the workstation i use at work is a turd. i'm running fluxbox on it now.
[11:47] <scriptdevil> jackie: why not just tar it.. compression will take too much time
[11:47] <scriptdevil> kust0m: you may not like it.. it is geeky
[11:47] <snap64> ok lets see if ol snap can get the STUPID BROADCOM WiFi card to work right
[11:48] <kust0m> scriptdevil: and fluxbox isn't?
[11:48] <scriptdevil> kust0m: nope.. fluxbox is like kids wm in front of evilwm and ratpoison
[11:48] <Lopi_> thanks jackie
[11:48] <scriptdevil> but being productive is more useful than being geeky
[11:49] <kust0m> scriptdevil: never ran ratpoison either. i do like having the dock for minimized apps at the bottom.
[11:49] <jackie> scriptdevil your right..
[11:49] <snap64> have windows driver on cd in drive just need to get ndisswrapper to work right    heeelp
[11:49] <scriptdevil> kust0m: actually i like putting them in their own places.. i suggest you try wmii
[11:49] <jackie> Lopi_ np
[11:49] <scriptdevil> it is amazing
[11:49] <jxxxt> zcat[1] : I tried that pm thing can you read???
[11:49] <MenZa> !ndiswrapper | snap64
[11:49] <kust0m> scriptdevil: having 4+ boxes running *nix in my house is plenty geeky for me.
[11:49] <ubotu> snap64: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:51] <scriptdevil> ok.. bye people.. i will be a regular here... i am gonna install ubuntu in my box..
[11:51] <moDumass> modumass@modumass-desktop:~$ sudo cp songbird.png /usr/share/pixmaps
[11:51] <moDumass> cp: cannot stat `songbird.png': No such file or directory
[11:51] <snap64> Note: this is a defunct method written for hoary. Breezy and dapper both come with precompiled ndiswrapper modules.
[11:52] <moDumass> its sitting right here on the desktop though
[11:52] <kust0m> moDumass: that means that the file doesn't exist.
[11:52] <moDumass> why forth art this being so hard for me
[11:52] <KalElVZ> and we're BACK in ubuntu!
[11:52] <kust0m> moDumass: try sudo cp ~modumass/Desktop/songbird.png /usr/share/pixmaps/
[11:53] <KalElVZ> how do i change file permissions in the Linux Command prompt?
[11:53] <kust0m> KalElVZ: chmod
[11:53] <moDumass> hmm, did that make a copy? yes it did, cool thanks
[11:53] <KalElVZ> Oh DUH. I've been around web servers enough that I should know that. Thanks kustom.
[11:53] <jxxxt> zcat[1] : ??????
[11:54] <kust0m> KalElVZ: np
[11:54] <jxxxt> anyone with a registered nick please pm me I want to see if I got my reg correct
[11:55] <Flannel> jxxxt: you have.  you're identified
[11:55] <mwe> The default ubuntu kernel doesn't provide /proc/config.gz, does it?
[11:55] <jxxxt> Flannel: how do you know??
[11:55] <Flannel> jxxxt: /whois
[11:56] <crimsun> mwe: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[11:56] <jxxxt> Flannel: Many thanks
[11:56] <crimsun> mwe: but no, it doesn't.
[11:56] <mwe> crimsun: thanks
[11:57] <moDumass> woohoo, we have songbird, thanks kust0m and all
[11:58] <nopcode> hey
[11:59] <nopcode> i've just installed xubuntu feisty fawn and my realtek gigbit card doesnt work
[11:59] <kadakas> Is Ubuntu 7.04 using shadow passwords?
[11:59] <nopcode> any ideas? should i get a new kernel package maybe?
[11:59] <snap64> should i install the ndisswraper utils as well you think??
[12:00] <mwe> kadakas: yes, I believe so.
[12:00] <kadakas> :)
[12:00] <kadakas> good
[12:00] <Xoorf> Hey.. I was wondering where I could read about the main differences between Server and Desktop edition. Anyone got a clue?
[12:01] <phy2> Server installs no gui
[12:01] <Xoorf> Thank you
[12:01] <mwe> Xoorf: the ubuntu-desktop provides a lot of gui stuff. you can install that later on server, though.
[12:01] <phy2> But it can be added, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <XiXaQ> Xoorf, server has different options, like LAMP server, DNS, etc.
[12:01] <Xoorf> Cheers
[12:01] <kust0m> mwe: not as good of an idea as you might think. I tried that and Xorg had no hardware acceleration for video.
[12:02] <nopcode> where can i get ubuntu kernel packages?
[12:02] <mwe> kust0m: huh?
[12:02] <kust0m> mwe: i installed server then added X and whatnot..it ran like poo
[12:02] <mwe> kust0m: if it works installing from the cd it works like that is well
[12:03] <kust0m> while a clean install with an alternate cd from anything worked good.
[12:03] <phy2> Accelleration after installing desktop is a matter of configuration after installation
[12:03] <mwe> kust0m: if not install the appropiate driver
[12:03] <mwe> kust0m: and configure it right
[12:03] <kust0m> yeah, i spent 2 days trying that
[12:03] <kust0m> it was retarded.
[12:03] <kust0m> if you want a gui, install one of the versions with it packaged.
[12:03] <XiXaQ> kunwon1, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:03] <mwe> kust0m: I'm a big fan of the alternate CD
[12:03] <XiXaQ> that installs everything that the desktop cd does.
[12:04] <ajmorris_> does virtualbox work on feisty's latest kernel?
[12:04] <phy2> I saved my working desktop xorg.conf, installed desktop and nvidia-glx-new, and overwrote the xorg.conf. Worked fine
[12:04] <Thomas_Grainger> I have a 64bit Intel Core 2 duo e6600 which version of 7.04 is the best to get?
[12:04] <phy2> for desktop install over server
[12:04] <nopcode> hey where can i get ubuntu kernel packages?
[12:04] <nopcode> my realtek gigbit card doesnt work
[12:04] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: amd64 or just the 32bit version to make things easy if you want commercial software
[12:05] <Thomas_Grainger> mwe: the dvd does not work for me, will the cd work?
[12:05] <phy2> I have AMD64 but installed 32bit OS
[12:05] <yariver> any one knows why should desktop effecs work for several days  - and than stop working, system saying it cannot work on this computer?
[12:05] <nopcode> phy2: why??
[12:05] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: generally commerscial software does not play nice with the 64 bit version and you'd probably install a !chroot
[12:05] <kestaz> how to convert pdf to html on ubuntu ?
[12:05] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: I don't know. how does it not work?
[12:05] <XiXaQ> phy2, me too. I never use 32bit operating systems.
[12:05] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: !alternate | Thomas_Grainger
[12:05] <mwe> !alternate | Thomas_Grainger
[12:06] <mwe> pfft
[12:06] <nopcode> if you dont use 64 bit you're wasting potential
[12:06] <ubotu> Thomas_Grainger: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[12:06] <yariver> mwe was that question for me?
[12:06] <phy2> Installed 32bit because having "problems" with 64bit as far as some webites I use
[12:06] <Thomas_Grainger> mwe: I select the first option after booting from the dvd
[12:06] <XiXaQ> nopcode, no, I've never had that much RAM, and it's more important for meg to use the memory I have and have software available.
[12:06] <phy2> 64bit support for extras still still still sketchy
[12:06] <nopcode> XiXaQ: you can recompile software
[12:06] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: and it doesn't boot?
[12:07] <XiXaQ> nopcode, not when you can't get a hold of the source code.
[12:07] <Thomas_Grainger> mwe: then the screen goes blank, and I get somthing like "kernal alive" and some memory setup, then blank for ever more
[12:07] <Pawel-> hello can somebody tell me where i should click to find USER LIST in my XCHAT ?
[12:07] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: I'd try the alternate CD suggested by ubotu
[12:08] <Thomas_Grainger> mwe: I wanted to try out the live option
[12:08] <gesus> hey there #ubuntu'ers ---> how can i make my UBUNTU more PRETTY?  i read somewhere about an XGL add-on or something?  what other 'addons' are there that make ubuntu look magic (i want it to look more magical than windows). i like magic. :)
[12:08] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: I like that one best anyway. You're not at all the first person having problems with the live-cd
[12:08] <Thomas_Grainger> gesus: beryl
[12:08] <Pawel-> gesus: gnomelook.org
[12:08] <Thomas_Grainger> mwe: live-dvd
[12:08] <Pawel->  can somebody tell me where i should click to find USER LIST in my XCHAT ?
[12:08] <yariver> anyone was able to install some serious program using wine - like any of the adobe programs?
[12:08] <XiXaQ> nopcode, however, I've never had more than 4GB of ram anyway. :)
[12:08] <nopcode> well anyone got suggestions? my realtek gigabit card doesnt work on feisty fawn
[12:08] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: it's common. yeay
[12:08] <nopcode> XiXaQ: you're bound to get problems with 2G+
[12:08] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: yeah, even
[12:09] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: that's what I meant
[12:09] <nopcode> XiXaQ: because then virtual memory is getting short
[12:09] <nopcode> 32 bit is... medieval
[12:09] <Thomas_Grainger> mwe: hmm I'll go get the 64bit live CD
[12:09] <XiXaQ> nopcode, no.. It's quite ok until you use more than 4GB.
[12:09] <phy2> 2.5g here, works fine
[12:09] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: good luck
[12:09] <nopcode> XiXaQ: well but then you're using those intel extensions... thats a hack
[12:09] <Thomas_Grainger> mwe:thanks
[12:09] <XiXaQ> nopcode, no.
[12:09] <gesus> Thomas_Grainger, Pawel- thankyou i'll check it out :-)
[12:09] <Flannel> nopcode: I think you're confusing 4G with 2G
[12:09] <Pawel-> np
[12:09] <nopcode> Flannel: no i'm not
[12:10] <HOT> shred -u donkeysNnuns.wmv
[12:10] <Thomas_Grainger> vista 64 blocks anything over 8gig ram
[12:10] <mwe> yeah. 32bit can address up to 4G
[12:10] <XiXaQ> nopcode, What Intel calls memory extensions, AMD calls 64 bit architecture.
[12:10] <neutralrobotboy> i have a 40gb partition i want to use for ubuntu. unfortunately, the installer doesn't seem to want to handle things that way, so it seems i have to partition it manually. can anyone tell me how it should be partitioned + mounted?
[12:10] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: it does?
[12:10] <Thomas_Grainger> that is the home version
[12:10] <nopcode> XiXaQ: no thats wrong
[12:10] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: oh
[12:10] <nopcode> well higher addresses are usually reserved by the OS
[12:10] <CheshireViking> Pawel-, the user list in my xchat shows up in the right hand pane, i seem to remember that i had to move the window edges over to show them
[12:10] <XiXaQ> nopcode, I won't discuss that here, but that is not wrong.
[12:10] <Thomas_Grainger> the ultimate does not
[12:10] <nopcode> thats why you never can use the whole 4 gig if you have 4 gig
[12:10] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: so vista ultimate or whatever can address more than 8G ?
[12:10] <yariver> help on installing windows software using wine (or sugestion to some flash editing software)?
[12:11] <Thomas_Grainger> only 64bit
[12:11] <nopcode> XiXaQ: intel Physical Address Extension is not the same as x86-64
[12:11] <mwe> nopcode: yeah
[12:11] <Pawel-> CheshireViking: thanks
[12:11] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: of course ;)
[12:11] <nopcode> XiXaQ: the former is to be able to address (more than) 4 gig in 32 bit mode
[12:11] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: 32bit can only address 4G by definition
[12:11] <nopcode> the later has 64 bit registers, twice the amount of registers, different calling semantics...
[12:11] <Thomas_Grainger> but it is blocked on the cheaper 64 ones
[12:12] <XiXaQ> nopcode, perhaps you should look up the difference then. But as I said, I don't feel this is the right place for this discussion.
[12:12] <Thomas_Grainger> ill find the link
[12:12] <neutralrobotboy> ok... i guess i have to figure this out through internet research
[12:12] <nopcode> XiXaQ: In computing, Physical Address Extension (PAE) refers to a feature of x86 processors that allows for up to 64 gibibytes of physical memory to be used in 32-bit systems, given appropriate operating system support.
[12:12] <nopcode> thats from wikipedia
[12:12] <Thomas_Grainger> mwe: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/64bit.mspx
[12:13] <nopcode> XiXaQ: intel had that before they had 64 bit CPUs
[12:13] <Thomas_Grainger> mwe: close to the bottom
[12:14] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: that sucks ;)
[12:14] <nopcode> so any suggestions on where to find ubuntu kernel packages?
[12:14] <Thomas_Grainger> mwe: it really makes no sense
[12:14] <mwe> Thomas_Grainger: will probably be a while before 8G+ gets common on desktop systems, though.
[12:14] <XiXaQ> nopcode, Physical Address Extention? I thought we're talking about 64 bit processors. Look into Intel Extended Memory 64 http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebster.cs.ucr.edu%2FPage_TechDocs%2FIntel64.pdf&ei=yfs-Rs2NAYza0gS5_rTLAQ&usg=AFrqEzdhegB8AuObvWq3qnF8YKMDEOJ6Wg&sig2=R8fYzJJ3jhhJPc-KEsZnww
[12:14] <phy2> NOPCODE, YOU WANT SOURCE, OR WHAT?
[12:14] <phy2> OOPS
[12:14] <HOT> i have 8gig on my vista box
[12:15] <HOT> works fine
[12:15] <Thomas_Grainger> HOT: what version of vista?
[12:15] <nopcode> XiXaQ: we were talking about real 64 bit processors vs. 32 bit processors with "PAE"
[12:15] <HOT> ultimate 64bit
[12:15] <mwe> HOT: yeah on 64bit, right?
[12:15] <nopcode> XiXaQ: you were claiming that to be identical
[12:15] <HOT> aye
[12:15] <giggsey> I've installed fiesty, and on the first boot I get an error. I first thought it was a seg fault, but the text-based CD gives the same error when it boots: http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6140/00001kl8.jpg (Something about modprobe failing)
[12:15] <Thomas_Grainger> HOT:ok
[12:15] <nopcode> phy2: no man i need the kernel packages because my NIC doesnt work
[12:15] <XiXaQ> nopcode, I've never mentioned PAE. I was talking about 64 bit processors, which Intel calls Extended Memory Technology.
[12:15] <HOT> in practical terms vista 32 will take 4gb
[12:16] <mwe> HOT: yes.
[12:16] <yariver>    ?
[12:16] <vmlinz> someone help me on the screen resolution of login window please ,-_-
[12:16] <nopcode> XiXaQ: hm strange
[12:16] <kadakas> does anyone know how to get a 4D scrollwheel to work? I have a Genius Navigator 805 wireless laser mouse
[12:17] <Pawel-> vmlinz: what's wrong ?
[12:17] <nopcode> ok anyways
[12:17] <nopcode> i need some help
[12:17] <nopcode> my gigbit NIC doesnt work
[12:17] <nopcode> so i was thinking about getting a new kernel package
[12:17] <nopcode> but WHERE?
[12:17] <mwe> vmlinz: I think it will use the default res, the first one metioned in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:17] <XiXaQ> nopcode, it's not strange. The most significant differences between a 32 bit and a 64 bit system, is that the 64 bit system can address more RAM and that it also uses alot more.
[12:17] <HOT> on my RHEL4 cluster at work each station has 16GB
[12:18] <vmlinz> the resolution of login window is not the same as the one after I logged in
[12:18] <nopcode> XiXaQ: hm. anyways do YOU happen to know where to get kernel packages
[12:18] <XiXaQ> vmlinz, that's because each user has their own settings for screen resolutions. I don't know where to set the resolution for gdm though.
[12:19] <No1> What does sudo /etc/init.d/ssh
[12:19] <No1> do
[12:19] <XiXaQ> nopcode, no. I don't use 64bit because of missing drivers, plugins and software in general.
[12:19] <vmlinz> mwe: It use the first res of the xorg.conf ? thank you , i 'll have a try
[12:19] <nopcode> XiXaQ: i never had a problem on 64 bit linux
[12:19] <nopcode> and flash is commercial crap anyways
[12:19] <XiXaQ> heh, I thought you said so.
[12:20] <phy2> nopcode -- maybe start here" -- http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/
[12:20] <MacPlusG3> anybody had anything happen where you get "mdX already has disks" and then, after a reboot or two: 2 disks in a raid5 array (feisty) after a reboot become spares?
[12:20] <nopcode> and drivers are in the kernel
[12:20] <nopcode> phy2: gutsy? can i install these packages on xubuntu feisty fawn?
[12:20] <ncd> hey
[12:21] <Tatster> Hi all.  I've just installed mythtv on my feisty server and now whenever I reboot it automatically logs on, and runs Myth.  How can I stop this?
[12:21] <ncd> crimsun, you still alive?
[12:21] <jamie> Parmenion: thanks for the suggestion, but it not really easier -- i have to download 80mb of fles in an .exe and even then i cannot unpack it to get to the driver i need :(
[12:21] <jamie> can anyone help with rebuilding ipw3945 on feisty?
[12:21] <jamie> i a bit stuck :)
[12:21] <phy2> nopcode -- http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/newpkg_main    has kernals
[12:21] <ncd> <- trying to get dri to work on a mobile intel gpu
[12:21] <HOT> jamie: use ndiswrapper?
[12:22] <ncd> http://rafb.net/p/GqNG5R58.html
[12:22] <ncd> system info and logs
[12:23] <jamie> HOT that what Parmenion suggested
[12:23] <HOT> jamie: its a good idea
[12:23] <jamie> HOT but where do i get the right windoze driver, it a pain
[12:23] <HOT> jamie: extract it from the driver
[12:23] <jamie> HOT i havent a copy of windows to extract from exe
[12:23] <jamie> HOT: less still a running copy.
[12:24] <HOT> jamie: you might be stuffed then
[12:24] <jamie> is there some linux package for unpacking .exe file tht i don know about
[12:24] <vmlinz> mwe: but the first res of the xorg.conf is 1280x1024 at 24 depth ,which it seems not to be the res of gdm,
[12:24] <rsk> !ati
[12:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:24] <jamie> HOT: stuffed, is that a technical term? ;)
[12:24] <mwe> vmlinz: and that works after you log in?