[08:33] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, did you tic xmms ? in the open with tab of properties ?
[08:33] <adriyel> its sound related crimsun_
[08:34] <adriyel> lol @ broken
[08:34] <adriyel> I find it easy to disable flash
[08:34] <bimberi> !defaultapp
[08:34] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[08:34] <durt> thank you deFrysk
[08:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> it is..i was just joking
[08:34] <adriyel> mv ~/.mozilla/firefox/libflash-mozplugin.so /HELL
[08:34] <crimsun_> adriyel, if your libflash issue is related to the 32-bit layer, it's fixed in 1.0.10rc1 of ALSA. We may be able to see it in Breezy.
[08:34] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, ix xmms is not available use the add button to add xmms
[08:34] <fluffybunny_> deFrysk: I right-clicked, selected "Open with other application", and selected XMMS, if thats what you mean?
[08:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just wish i could eliminate all sound upon entering web pages.
[08:34] <adriyel> theres your solution broken :P
[08:34] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, I said properties
[08:34] <_frank> adriyel: i had to change the audio output from alsa to oss in doom3 to get it to works
[08:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> i wish i could tell a browser to NOT play sound in a flash or any other element.
[08:34] <fluffybunny_> deFrysk: woops :)
[08:34] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, properties first
[08:35] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, ;p
[08:35] <adriyel> crimsun_, I can't get sound working in doom3. no crash, it just seems to be muted. I've checked and nothing pertinent seems muted. additionally, I've tried it with esound alsa and oss, all three don't work, suggestions?
[08:35] <fluffybunny_> thanks - it works now :)
[08:35] <deFrysk> k ;)
[08:35] <Madpilot> BROKEN_LADDER: in Opera you can - "Play Sound in Web Pages" is one of the quick-config options - just hit F12
[08:35] <crimsun_> adriyel, are you using Breezy?
[08:35] <adriyel> Hoary
[08:35] <crimsun_> adriyel, no, Hoary, correct?
[08:35] <adriyel> yes
[08:35] <adriyel> x86_64, stock kernel
[08:36] <durt> adriyel: have you tried running alsaconf?
[08:36] <adriyel> stock most everything.
[08:36] <adriyel> durt, everything else works
[08:36] <adriyel> why reconfig?
[08:36] <kaptaink> any ideas on how to share a partition with a ubuntu/windows dual boot, without simply mounting it? (simply mounting it seems to freeze my system)
[08:36] <Madpilot> Firefox isn't a *bad* browser - it's just got a ways to go to catch up to the best...
[08:36] <crimsun_> adriyel, ok, you'd need to update ALSA to see.
[08:36] <crimsun_> !tell adriyel about alsa-source
[08:36] <adriyel> crimsun_, I'll update it
[08:36] <durt> adriyel: i had the same problem with bzflag but everything else worked, alsaconf fixed it
[08:36] <zcat[1] > damn, was going so well... got the CD to install under wine, but it won't run
[08:37] <bmecoli> how do you list processes in console?
[08:37] <hardw1re> use top
[08:37] <bimberi> bmecoli: ps aux
[08:37] <bmecoli> I see
[08:38] <kaptaink> apps/ system tools/ system mon
[08:38] <hardw1re> whats the latest 2.6.x.amd64 kernel?
[08:38] <bmecoli> because xmms froze X up pretty bad
[08:38] <bmecoli> ;p
[08:38] <bimberi> er, console
[08:38] <kaptaink> oh
[08:38] <crimsun_> hardw1re, in Hoary?
[08:38] <hardw1re> yeah....
[08:38] <zcat[1] > hmmm...
[08:38] <crimsun_> 2.6.10-5-..._34.4
[08:38] <zcat[1] > too hard.
[08:39] <hardw1re> having alot of compatability issues with stuff in 10-5 and 11-1
[08:39] <_frank> can anyone think of a reason why shift and caps lock and num lock stopped working on my keyboard or a fix for that
[08:39] <bmecoli> anywho, I think I might look and see if I need any packages regarding codecs... because I need them :)
[08:39] <bmecoli> I mean... if they have any
[08:39] <bmecoli> oops
[08:39] <bimberi> !restricted
[08:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:41] <hardw1re> !kernel
[08:41] <hardw1re> :f
[08:42] <skpl> can someone tell me why it is possible to use some fonts in some programs but not in others?
[08:42] <bimberi> your own personal flood :P
[08:43] <Julian> Got a programming question for you.  Who's a coder here?
[08:43] <Julian> Anyone?
[08:43] <hardw1re> The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: <IP_ADDRESS> <--- hmm but where from?!
[08:43] <adriyel> Julian, what you need?
[08:43] <adriyel> Julian, its been awhile since I coded, and I prolly won't be able to help you, but its worth a try
[08:43] <crimsun_> that's kernel.org. Ubuntu tracks versions differently. Hoary froze with 2.6.10+updates.
[08:43] <bimberi> hardw1re: kernel.org
[08:43] <HrdwrBoB> Julian: just ask
[08:44] <adriyel> HrdwrBoB, is right.
[08:44] <Julian> I'm trying to compile gdl-0.8.10, and some of the include files reference a header file that's not being found.
[08:44] <adriyel> unfound dependent header file
[08:44] <hardw1re> bimberi: i take it thats not in package form is it?
[08:44] <Julian> Most of the references use #include "full_path"
[08:44] <Julian> Whereas the include that's failing is #include <path_name>, as though it were an internal library.
[08:44] <bimberi> hardw1re: source code bzip iirc
[08:45] <ginger_> anyone here have problems with USB in Hoary? is this common? any simple way to deal with it?
[08:45] <crimsun_> Julian, it's quite simple to fix, actually: sudo apt-get build-dep libgdl-1-dev
[08:45] <Julian> How do I set up the environment so that those headers are found via <path_name>
[08:45] <HrdwrBoB> .win 22
[08:45] <hardw1re> ok im gonna need some guidance here....
[08:45] <Julian> OK.  I've gone that route, and I'm trying to build anjuta.
[08:45] <hardw1re> cause i've only ever used the apt-get for kernel's
[08:45] <Julian> Plenty of issues have arisen.
[08:45] <Julian> What I would give to have someone walk me through that...
[08:46] <bimberi> ubuntu's hardware identification is so good that I haven't had to compile a kernel for while
[08:46] <Julian> Why... Why...  I'd even donate to Ubuntu...
[08:46] <bimberi> :)
[08:46] <adriyel> Julian, did you see the apt-get solution?
[08:46] <crimsun_> Julian, are you using Hoary or Breezy?
[08:46] <Julian> Hoary.
[08:46] <bimberi> !kernelcompile
[08:46] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[08:46] <Julian> yeah, I saw that.
[08:46] <Phoinix> Hello.. I've just migrated from Debian to Ubuntu.. all ok. But i'm trying to recompile the kernel from the old .config tha i had in Debian ... ana ubuntu does not boot !!! I can't understand why, it just crashes in the booting sequency with no message at all. After decomperssing kernel...Done.  The kernel was compiled using make && make modules_install && make install
[08:47] <bimberi> hardw1re: that link (from ubotu) might help
[08:47] <Julian> Phoinix:  One thing I've found:  Ubuntu is based on debian, but it ain't debian.
[08:47] <hardw1re> cheers :)
[08:47] <punkass> I have just added a new rep to my sources.list but when I try and update it says "Ign" which I assume means ignore
[08:48] <punkass> I believe its because I have to gpg key..and i am not sure how to get one
[08:48] <Tonka> kubuntu is really cool. i used to have red hat. but how do I put the trash icon on the desk top. help. :-)
[08:48] <punkass> to = no*
[08:48] <Phoinix> Julian, This kernel has worked in a suse distribution in the same pc... :/
[08:48] <TraceGreen>  Hello, i have bootsplash now, but it don't have progressbar, how can i set it out?
[08:49] <sepht> apache2 doesn't serve php correcly????
[08:49] <Phoinix> IS there any kind of boot log, that i can track the problem down?
[08:49] <ubuntu> hello
[08:49] <ubuntu> i would like to know how to operate qemu
[08:49] <sepht> ubuntu: man it
[08:49] <ubuntu> i went on the site but the link does not work for me
[08:49] <sepht> anyone know why apache2 doesn't serve php
[08:49] <bimberi> Tonka: there should be one at the very bottom right (assuming you're using gnome)
[08:49] <sepht> ?
[08:49] <ubuntu> hellO!
[08:49] <ubuntu> can anyone tell me how to operate qemu!?!
[08:49] <hardw1re> !tar
[08:49] <ubotu> hardw1re: Are you smoking crack?
[08:50] <hardw1re> :x
[08:50] <ubuntu> bob2!
[08:50] <jon__> Does anybody here use irssi?  I have it at the bottom right but I like it in the desktop. so I can drag and drop.
[08:51] <sepht> seen that though..
[08:51] <ubuntu> darn
[08:51] <Madpilot> ubuntu: stop having a tantrum
[08:51] <sepht> it works in apache 1.3 ...
[08:51] <jon__> Does anybody here use irssi? If so, do you know how to set it so it autsend comands?
[08:51] <ubuntu> anyone know how to operate qemu?
[08:51] <robotgeek> jon__: autosend?
[08:51] <Evil_Taco> Hey, whats a good C++ program?
[08:51] <hardw1re> wats the command to unzip .bz2 again, i've completey forgotton :|
[08:51] <ubuntu> visual c++ express
[08:51] <ubuntu> u can download it free
[08:51] <ubuntu> :D:D
[08:51] <robotgeek> Evil_Taco: for what?
[08:51] <ubuntu> from da microsoft site
[08:51] <renedox> the
[08:52] <renedox> not da
[08:52] <Madpilot> sepht: I followed exactly those steps in the ApacheMySQLPHP page, and everything works for me...
[08:52] <robotgeek> ubuntu: now, u are being disruptive
[08:52] <Julian> adriyel:  apt reports that it can't find the package for libgdl.  I probably need to add to my sources.list.  Can you refer me to a url with a complete set that I'll need?
[08:52] <ubuntu> anyone know how to operate qemu
[08:52] <Evil_Taco> Just for writting small little programs, learning purposes. I know nothing about C++
[08:52] <ginger_> so, no problems with Hoary and zero USB recognition? no one? no help?
[08:52] <Agrajag> I think he's acting like a retard on purpose, note that he also recommended microsoft
[08:52] <ubuntu> use visual c++ express evil taco
[08:52] <ubuntu> its free from the microsoft site
[08:52] <ubuntu> just download it
[08:52] <hardw1re> !ban
[08:52] <ubotu> hardw1re: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:52] <robotgeek> Evil_Taco: you have c++ compiler included with ubuntu
[08:52] <atomicoz> there's a difference between acting and being Agrajag :)
[08:52] <Julian> Wierd, though I do have the headers that I need (netcdf.h)
[08:53] <ubuntu> robot geek
[08:53] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: obviously no one here currently can help - and repeating won't make a guru magically appear
[08:53] <robotgeek> ubuntu: welcome to my ignore list
[08:53] <ubuntu> .
[08:53] <hardw1re> lol
[08:53] <Agrajag> Evil_Taco: if you just need something to do syntax highlighting and that sort of thing, emacs or vim will do it
[08:53] <iiiears> Hello thoreauputic. :)
[08:53] <Madpilot> robotgeek: it's usually harder to get rid of idiots than that - thanks!
[08:53] <Evil_Taco> Where is it at robotgeek?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> iiiears: hi :)
[08:53] <Agrajag> or there's Anjuta, which is a full IDE, I've not used it much so I'm not sure how good it is
[08:54] <robotgeek> Evil_Taco: open up a terminal, and type g++
[08:54] <ian> kind of a random question, but related to Ubuntu (evolution): anyone know if the Delete key works in OSX's Trash folder (to *actually* delete the file)?
[08:54] <Julian> I'm currently trying to compile it.  Anyone help with that?
[08:54] <hardw1re> !bz2
[08:54] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hardw1re
[08:54] <robotgeek> Madpilot: :)
[08:54] <Julian> Perhaps spend a few minutes on a private channel?
[08:54] <iiiears> !tar
[08:54] <ubotu> iiiears: Are you smoking crack?
[08:54] <hardw1re> :A
[08:54] <Agrajag> hardw1re: come on man, it's in the tar manual
[08:54] <robotgeek> don't abuse my cousin
[08:54] <bimberi> hardw1re: bunzip2
[08:54] <robotgeek> !lart hardw1re
[08:54] <Agrajag> tar xvjf whatever.tar.bz2
[08:54] <robotgeek> lol
[08:55] <Evil_Taco> I did and its saying command not found
[08:55] <iiiears> lol
[08:55] <Agrajag> Evil_Taco: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:55] <bimberi> hardw1re: ... although Agrajag's post is probably what you're after :)
[08:55] <renedox> sudo apt-get life
[08:55] <renedox> sudo apt-get install life
[08:55] <robotgeek> Evil_Taco: in the terminal, do apt-get install build-essential
[08:56] <robotgeek> renedox: apt is good, but i doubt it's that good :)
[08:56] <Agrajag> robotgeek: you forgot the sudo
[08:56] <Yabden> life is only available in rpm format, and not convertable by alien
[08:56] <skpl> can someone tell me how to set the default terminal in kde?
[08:56] <Agrajag> can't do that to newbies
[08:56] <renedox> robotgeek: haha :P
[08:56] <robotgeek> Agrajag: :(
[08:56] <Agrajag> just sayin' is all
[08:56] <robotgeek> Agrajag: good point, noted!
[08:56] <Evil_Taco> thanks guys, I appreciate it :D
[08:56] <bleachnaruto> anyone know how to operate qemu?
[08:57] <crimsun_> (forums up)
[08:57] <robotgeek> :)
[08:57] <robotgeek> crimsun_: someone stole your nick?
[08:57] <Oewyn> !ndiswrapper
[08:57] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:57] <crimsun_> robotgeek, no, both clients are mine
[08:58] <robotgeek> crimsun_: ah, okay! i got stuck in a screen like that once :)
[08:58] <bleachnaruto> anyone watch anime?
[08:58] <crimsun_> (different location)
[08:58] <robotgeek> bleachnaruto: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:58] <Oewyn> hrmmm... sudo modprobe ndiswrapper didn't work... hrmmmmmm
[08:58] <robotgeek> crimsun_: ah, ok
[08:58] <bleachnaruto> hi robotgeek
[08:58] <ian> does anyone use Mozilla Thunderbird?
[08:58] <Oewyn> got the package installed, and had the module created
[08:59] <hardw1re> bah i thought so, turns out i had the command right, just that it hadnt downloded right so it wasnt an actual .bz2 file lol
[08:59] <bleachnaruto> robotgeek, can u give me a link to the documentation part for qemu? cuz i am having a really great trouble finding it....
[08:59] <odyssey> how can i sudo into another username?
[08:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> i installed enlightenment but i can't see it as a choice in kdm..anyone?
[08:59] <dieman> mmmm
[09:00] <bleachnaruto> i tend to get to go to the bit for virtual machine, then, when i click qemu, it says "404 error"
[09:00] <dieman> love having a fast mirror
[09:00] <dieman> 750 kB/s :)
[09:00] <crimsun_> dieman, lucky umn.edu dog
[09:00] <NewUser> hallo
[09:00] <NewUser> anybody can help me
[09:00] <dieman> crimsun_: heh, where you at?
[09:00] <dieman> this is just at home
[09:00] <dieman> yay for comcast gold tier.
[09:01] <dieman> its like 6-7 now, but 8mbps evetually
[09:01] <dieman> and 10mbps someday
[09:01] <crimsun_> dieman, NC. I was at IBM Rochester earlier and used ftp.cs.umn.edu constantly
[09:01] <dieman> ahh
[09:01] <dieman> crimsun_: move to mirror.cs.umn.edu evetually
[09:01] <robotgeek> anyone know how to set ignore based on host?
[09:01] <robotgeek> in irssi?
[09:01] <dieman> crimsun_: and sorry when it stopped updaing sometime -- we were using tds.net as a mirror
[09:01] <crimsun_> dieman, yeah, I believe I ended up using mirror later
[09:01] <dieman> and tds kept on wacking out
[09:02] <bimberi> odyssey: su - <username>   <-- from the root terminal (or shell: "sudo -i")
[09:02] <bleachnaruto> anyone?
[09:02] <bleachnaruto> i really need help on qemu! but everyone is just treating me like a ghost
[09:02] <ekimus> hi, i'm setting up ion (ion3) right now and the docs (/usr/share/doc/ion3/README.Debian|dock) state that there should be a file dock.lua somewhere but not even find tells me about it. any hints?
[09:02] <bimberi> bleachnaruto: that's because we don't know
[09:02] <crimsun_> bleachnaruto, have you checked the documentation in /usr/share/doc/qemu*/ ?
[09:02] <bleachnaruto> thanks for that response
[09:03] <bimberi> bleachnaruto: yvw :)
[09:03] <thoreauputic> bleachnaruto: your affliction is known as "narcissism" - look it up
[09:03] <dieman> crimsun_: basically i only had a 80gb partition on ftp.cs, got a 300gb disk on mirror now
[09:03] <crimsun_> bleachnaruto, there also seems to be documentation at http://www.qemu.org/user-doc.html
[09:03] <crimsun_> dieman, excellent!
[09:03] <robotgeek> bleachnaruto is the same guy as ubuntu
[09:04] <dieman> now i just need to get gigE on that machine if the bw usage gets too high
[09:04] <bleachnaruto> ubuntu?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: I guess we knew that...
[09:04] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: no ops when they're needed for a little educational kicking... too bad
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> geez
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> ill just use vmware isntead...
[09:05] <crimsun_> bleachnaruto, I just gave you two pointers...
[09:05] <Julian> So, I have the library I need (netcfg) downloaded through synaptic/apt-get.  It won't let me do a build-dep on it.
[09:05] <Julian> What then?
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> ty
[09:05] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: sorry, i had that guy on ignore (i guess he changed his nick, and i din't get that message). so, how do i block this guy ?
[09:05] <ColonelKernel> what kind of job can I get if Im good enough at linux to not relaly have to ask questions anymore?
[09:05] <dieman> crimsun_: heh, but using half the disk now -- i put dvd images on there too
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> but anyway
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> thanks guys
[09:05] <ian> I have a quick question for anyone using Windows, OSX or KDE right now.  It's related to a bug report I'm filing. Please message me if you've got a minute!
[09:05] <dieman> and debian-amd64
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> for that information
[09:05] <ColonelKernel> pardon the typing skills im recovering from iv sedation
[09:06] <bleachnaruto> bye
[09:06] <dieman> which i should setup to get rsynced all the time
[09:06] <poningru> someone explain to me why mp3 playing capability is not in ubuntu out of the box?
[09:06] <Yabden> licensing issues
[09:06] <thoreauputic> poningru: licensing
[09:06] <poningru> decoding is not patented only encoding is
[09:06] <iiiears> patented file format mp3's
[09:06] <HrdwrBoB> poningru: wrong
[09:06] <poningru> ?
[09:06] <poningru> docs please
[09:07] <iiiears> *.ogg is every bit as good
[09:07] <bimberi> evidence of googling please
[09:07] <poningru> searching turned up nothing
[09:07] <poningru> well in the forums and ubuntu wiki
[09:07] <ian> iiiears: not when you have a .mp3 file... :)
[09:07] <poningru> maybe I should try google
[09:07] <Agrajag> iiiears: that does someone with a bunch of mp3s a whole lot of good
[09:08] <poningru> iiiears: the prob is .ogg is not as mature as .mp3 so it doesnt have as good decoders in the small players
[09:08] <crimsun_> poningru, http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html
[09:08] <m> hi
[09:08] <adriyel> I might be nuts here or something, but its been my impression that ogg didn't sound as good as mp3's for music. this is from personal experience
[09:08] <m> hi
[09:08] <adriyel> if I wanted quality though, I'd use flac.
[09:09] <thoreauputic> adriyel: you're nuts ;-)
[09:09] <drummer87> hi all, quick question about breezy: if i install it alongside my hoary install on a separate partition, will it overwrite my current grub install?
[09:09] <adriyel> too bad I don't have any cd's, just dl'ed MP3's
[09:09] <poningru> wtf
[09:09] <siimo> anyone know where i can get some decorative cool fonts in ubuntu? like the ones knoppix live cd has
[09:09] <poningru> hmm ok
[09:09] <m> halo is there is any body who want to chat with me
[09:09] <poningru> I will bring this up thank you
[09:09] <m> halo poningru
[09:10] <crimsun_> poningru, note that a similar thread surfaced recently on debian-legal: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/07/msg00081.html
[09:10] <nalioth> siimo: get em off the knoppix cd
[09:10] <m> halo
[09:10] <m> halo
[09:10] <robotgeek> m: ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <bimberi> m: this is an ubuntu support channel, not for chat, if you have an ubuntu related question we'd love to help
[09:11] <adriyel> wtf @ m
[09:11] <adriyel> M$ fanboy?
[09:11] <adriyel>  :P
[09:11] <hardw1re> O-o
[09:12] <thoreauputic> heh, that guy didn't look very hard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo  I would imagine that might have been useful...
[09:12] <Madpilot> what's the license on those fonts in the Knoppix LiveCD? Any reason they can't be added to Ubuntu's distro?
[09:13] <leo1> can any help me!
[09:13] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, likely not DFSG-free
[09:13] <cafuego> Burgundavia: So they can go in extras, eh?
[09:13] <nalioth> Madpilot: get em for yourself from the knoppix disk
[09:13] <leo1> after i setup wireless router, my test web server is not work
[09:13] <drummer87> noone here using breezy??
[09:13] <robotgeek> leo1: just state your problem :)
[09:13] <iiiears> nice discussion of mp3 licensing. - never saw the numbers before.
[09:13] <Burgundavia> cafuego, if they can be redistributed, then can go in multiverse
[09:14] <robotgeek> drummer87: me on breezy!
[09:14] <Madpilot> nalioth: I actually pulled the Knoppix ISO down a while ago, I'll have to poke around...
[09:14] <cafuego> Madpilot: What's the font names?
[09:14] <Bobby_G> what kernel version is there in ubuntu 5.04
[09:14] <Bobby_G> ?
[09:14] <bimberi> 2.6.10
[09:14] <barney_> correct
[09:14] <cafuego> Bobby_G: 2.6.10 (with patches)
[09:15] <leo1> i think i made misconfuguraion with wireless router
[09:15] <Bobby_G> ok
[09:15] <robotgeek> leo1: okay, go ahead
[09:15] <ColonelKernel> 2.6.10-5-686-smp here but i use the breezy kernel sources to compile my own
[09:15] <drummer87> robotgeek, will it overwrite my current grub config from hoary?
[09:15] <barney_> 2.6.10-5-386 here
[09:15] <ColonelKernel> IM compiling now but I wiped my old 2.6.12 b/c I am still wasted from anesthestic
[09:15] <Madpilot> cafuego: don't know, actually.  Thechoice is between ubuntu and debian. have to use Linux in a school project . If I choose ubuntu I will come back here with many stupid questions =)
[09:16] <drummer87> robotgeek, hmm, k... i wanted to install both together.. and not on ppc ;)
[09:17] <cafuego> Bobby_G: If you have a Hyperthreaded p4, you also want an smp kernel.
[09:17] <drummer87> although i would like to get a ppc to play with :P
[09:17] <ColonelKernel> what im wondering is this - why is it symmetric ? its not like things are balanced
[09:17] <cafuego> hardw1re: You typed an incorrect command?
[09:17] <robotgeek> drummer87: you x86 boys have it easy :)
[09:17] <ColonelKernel> cpu0 gets used WAY more than cpu1
[09:17] <nalioth> drummer87: apple.com/store and click on the red tag at the bottom right
[09:17] <ColonelKernel> Im pretty sure the programs decide what cpu to use instead of the kernel
[09:17] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: Not if the scheduler isn't broken.
[09:18] <ColonelKernel> cafuego cpu1 aint gonna get used if the prog aint written for smp
[09:18] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: no, the kernel decides and can move them; soemtimes it's more cost effective to not move and and slightly overuse one of the cpus though.
[09:18] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: well duh.
[09:19] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: That doesn't mean prog1 can't run on cpu0 whilst the kernel runs on cpu1
[09:19] <pcharky> Hey people, can anybody help me with a firewall probem?
[09:19] <ColonelKernel> HMM
[09:19] <iiiears> can you use apt to fetch a package without installing it?
[09:19] <ofer0> hi, i write "sudo -i" and it probably changed something on my system because i cant log in to my username
[09:19] <nalioth> iiiears: yes you can
[09:19] <ColonelKernel> I never considered using cpu1 for kernel - that would make an insane performance increase!!
[09:19] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: Seeing as even an idle linux box tends to run at least 20-odd processes and/or kernel threads, SMP makes sense.
[09:19] <iiiears> Cool
[09:19] <Burgundavia> cafuego, hoary-extras is only for things like w32codecs (which is totally black) and libdvdcss2, which the dvda sues people over
[09:19] <Bobby_G> Is it easy to use an Intel Wireless Pro 2200 card in lastest ubuntu (5.04) ? I know some kernels have problems with that
[09:19] <Burgundavia> cafuego, despire have a nice license
[09:20] <bimberi> iiiears: apt-get -d
[09:20] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: The kernel already does this kind of scheduling. it can move kernel threads between cpus etc.
[09:20] <leo1> i use netgear wireless router
[09:20] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: if you enable SMP mode in top, you can see which CPU processes are running on.
[09:20] <iiiears> Thank You
[09:20] <bimberi> yw
[09:20] <ColonelKernel> cafuego well mine tends to keep pretty much everything on cpu0 - it still uses cpu1 but not as much
[09:20] <robotgeek> leo1: okay, go ahead and tell us your exact problem!
[09:20] <ofer0> please can somebody help me? with sudo -i ?
[09:20] <iiiears> man apt - was blinded with options - lol
[09:21] <curutz> hey can anyone tell me which folder is the bookmarks on firefox is stored?
[09:21] <leo1> before using router, webserver is work
[09:21] <leo1> after, not work
[09:21] <ofer0> curutz, its a file called "bookmarks.html"
[09:21] <ofer0> search for it
[09:21] <curutz> ok
[09:21] <curutz> ty
[09:21] <leo1> problem is misconfiguration in router
[09:21] <nalioth> curutz: you may start looking in ~/.mozilla-firefox
[09:21] <drummer87> nalioth, hehe.. still right out of my price range, i'm a student with no job
[09:21] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: if it runs ALL idle threads on cpu0 and ONE active one on cpu1, it's STILL redistributed the work optimally.
[09:21] <poningru> curutz: its should be in your profile folder
[09:22] <poningru> its in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[09:22] <robotgeek> leo1: you might want to look at forwarding a few ports, look at www.portforward.com
[09:22] <nalioth> drummer87: ebay, then.
[09:22] <robotgeek> drummer87: that's how i got this powerbook, 400$
[09:22] <leo1> yes,i read n tryed but
[09:22] <thoreauputic> ubotu qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[09:22] <ubotu> thoreauputic: okay
[09:23] <robotgeek> drummer87: btw, i am also a student with no job :((
[09:23] <bimberi> nice work thoreauputic :)
[09:23] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: I'm fairly sure the 2.6 kernels can (or are patchable to) set CPU affinity on a per-process basis, if you think you're smarter then the scheduler.
[09:23] <leo1> i made statis ip and point it, but no work
[09:23] <cafuego> (which admittedly isn't hard)
[09:23] <thoreauputic> bimberi: thanks - I think that guy needs to hone his google skills ;-)
[09:23] <bimberi> :)
[09:24] <drummer87> robotgeek, is it difficult to get ubuntu running nicely on the powerbook?
[09:24] <nalioth> drummer87: it is easy to get ubuntu on anything prior to the new imac G5
[09:24] <nalioth> drummer87: i've got it running nicely on my DP 1.8 powermac
[09:25] <ofer0> after running "sudo -i" probably my home dir changed or something, and i cant log in - it says "permission denied" even though in /etc/passwd it says that it is my home dir, and the owner is me.
[09:27] <cafuego> ofer0: did you change the owner of your homedir to root or something?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> ofer0: sudo -i plonks you into /root
[09:28] <thoreauputic> (root's home dir)
[09:28] <leo1> i run only 2 com behind router
[09:29] <leo1> 1 laptop with wirelass, test webserver on 1 desktop
[09:29] <iiiears> nalioth - the simple "YES" answer to the apt question forced a reread of "man apt-get" - some new knowledge snuck in.. - thanks a lot. - lol
[09:30] <thoreauputic> ofer0:  ctrl-d to exit the root shel, BTW (if you didn't know)
[09:30] <nalioth> iiiears: yes, knowledge is sneaky that way
[09:30] <thoreauputic> *shell
[09:30] <ofer0> thoreauputic, i know
[09:30] <ofer0> cafuego, no
[09:30] <hardw1re> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt <--- what do i need to install for that to work then?
[09:30] <cafuego> thoreauputic: sudo -i also *makes* you root, so you shouldn't be getting permission denied.
[09:30] <thoreauputic> ofer0: OK -just in case :)
[09:30] <cafuego> hardw1re: What are you compiling?
[09:30] <leo1> for webserver ip to pointout, i use internal Lan ip. is it right?
[09:30] <hardw1re> kernel
[09:31] <cafuego> hardw1re: use 'make menuconfig'
[09:31] <kevin06> Really dumb question. I just installed Visual Boy Advance with Synaptic, but what is the command to run it?
[09:31] <cafuego> hardw1re: install libncurses5-dev
[09:31] <hardw1re> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses
[09:31] <hardw1re> ok cheers
[09:31] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I was wondering if maybe his ~/.Xauthority has changed owners...
[09:32] <cafuego> thoreauputic: That's possible; ofer0 can you log in OK on a console?
[09:33] <cafuego> ooher, -13-rc7 is out
[09:33] <ColonelKernel> rebooting brb
[09:33] <thoreauputic> ofer0: what does ls -l /home/youruser/.Xauthority say?
 This patch contains "RED-PEN" notes from teh teacher ;-)
[09:36] <leo1> robotgeek_ the problem now take 2 days but i can't still fix
[09:36] <m0r0n> Is there a tool to extract rar-files compressed on windows?
[09:36] <cafuego> m0r0n: unrar-nonfree
[09:37] <bateau> whats the apt-get command for glib and so on?
[09:37] <cafuego> bateau: apt-cache search glib
[09:37] <bmecoli> heyt what's the command to change permissions?
[09:37] <bateau> there was this in-one-command for all of that stuff :x
[09:37] <cafuego> bmecoli: chmod
[09:37] <bmecoli> I need to change some as root
[09:38] <cafuego> bmecoli: such as?
[09:38] <bmecoli> chmod *.* 777 would free everything in current directory right?
[09:38] <drummer87> what's the minimum requirements (CPU/RAM) for ubuntu on a ppc? same as PC?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> bateau: that's kind of vague... what are you wanting to do ?
[09:38] <bmecoli> a directory in xmms
[09:38] <cafuego> bmecoli: yes, but that would normally not be a good idea. What are you trying to do?
[09:38] <nalioth> drummer87: ubuntu will run on any new world machine (with the exception of the newer imacs)
[09:39] <bmecoli> add some files to the input plugin folder
[09:39] <nalioth> drummer87: i've also seen it running on an old-world 233mhz powerbook
[09:39] <cafuego> drummer87: It should run fine on anything G3 233 with probably 128 ram ABSOLUTE mimimum; 256 nice 512Mb comfortable.
[09:40] <cafuego> drummer87: I've run it on an old-word G3/233 with 192 mb just fine.
[09:40] <bonvenon> drummer87: same here
[09:40] <drummer87> hmm, same as for x86.. i think there are some old eMacs at my school, sounds like it'll work on those then :)
[09:40] <Kromonos> hallo :)
[09:41] <drummer87> i'm sure they don't need them there
[09:41] <cafuego> drummer87: If you have less than 128Mb ram, do a 'server' install, then add a lightweight wm like *box
[09:41] <bateau> where can i find a full repository list? there was this list in pastebin or something
[09:41] <Kromonos> huhu
[09:41] <nalioth> bateau: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:41] <thoreauputic> !list
[09:41] <ubotu> list is, like, you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:42] <thoreauputic> bah
[09:42] <thoreauputic> !sources
[09:42] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:43] <Kromonos> why doesn't work ubuntu with a resulution of 1024x768 at my laptop?
[09:43] <bateau> i just installed that other version breezy badger or what it was... should i use some other repository list?
[09:43] <cafuego> bateau: nah, it's going to be broken either way.
[09:44] <bateau> cafuego: what you mean?
[09:44] <hardw1re> hmm, im currently looking thru the kernel config and alot of it looks to be pre-configured...
[09:44] <iiiears> !topic
[09:44] <cafuego> bateau: breezy is broken
[09:44] <cafuego> bateau: as in: not stable
[09:45] <durt> anybody know how to disable the "tap-and-clicking" on a touchpad?
[09:45] <nalioth> iiiears: you want <nickname> see /topic
[09:45] <iiiears> Ah - okay.. - thx
[09:46] <Kromonos> why doesn't work ubuntu with a resulution of 1024x768 at my laptop?
[09:46] <bateau> aha
[09:46] <durt> Kromonos: is that your highest resolution?
[09:46] <Kromonos> 640x480
[09:46] <Tonka> please help me put the trash icon on my kubuntu desktop. right now its in the lower right hand corner.
[09:46] <Yabden> Kromonos try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the right stuff
[09:47] <durt> Kromonos: breezy or hoary?
[09:47] <Kromonos> ahh, ok. thx
[09:47] <Kromonos> hoary
[09:48] <Alfred1881> Alfred1881 i need a prog to convert mp3 to wav :)
[09:48] <ekimus> does kdm ignore the .xinitrc?
[09:49] <Yabden> ekimus yep
[09:49] <thoreauputic> ekimus: yes, you need .xsession ( and choose system session or whatver it is in kdm)
[09:50] <cafuego> Alfred1881: mpg321
[09:50] <thoreauputic> ekimus:  mv .xinitrc .xsession    (should work)
[09:50] <ofer0> after running "sudo -i" probably my home dir changed or something, and i cant log in - it says "permission denied" even though in /etc/passwd it says that it is my home dir, and the owner is me.
[09:50] <ekimus> thoreauputic: system session is for gdm? (i actually don't care about the login manager just)
[09:50] <iiiears> http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/MP3-CD-Burning.html  nice tips
[09:50] <ekimus> thoreauputic: they are symlinked :)
[09:51] <cafuego> yes, KDM ignores them all. hence it's crap.
[09:51] <thoreauputic> ekimus: your .xsession and .xinitrc are symlinked?
[09:51] <ofer0> no ideas what could cause this problem?
[09:51] <theBrave> whats the default root password for ubuntu 5.04 ?
[09:51] <ekimus> thoreauputic: yes. since they actually use the same syntax (afaik) it worked for me so far
[09:51] <thoreauputic> cafuego: really? that's brain-damaged ...
[09:52] <Seveas> theBrave, there is none...
[09:52] <thoreauputic> ekimus: looks like gdm would work better for you...
[09:52] <Seveas> !tell theBrave about root
[09:52] <bonvenon> theBrave: it's the same as your user password
[09:52] <thoreauputic> ekimus: for gdm you can also put a *.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions
[09:52] <ekimus> thoreauputic: dpkg-reconfigure is enough for ubuntu or do i have to update-rc.d as well?
[09:53] <ofer0> why the hell in ubuntulinux wiki they say to run "sudo -i" instead of "su" if it causes so much problems?!
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ekimus: um... thet doesn't make sense
[09:53] <Yabden> sudo is more secure
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ofer0: it doesn't, normally
[09:53] <ofer0> thoreauputic, you ever tried this command?
[09:53] <icec_76> hi, can you help me with firefox im trying to upgrade to1.0.6 ,after i removed 1.2 it says cannot be upgraded?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> ofer0: of course
[09:54] <Seveas> ofer0, it causes no problems...
[09:54] <ekimus> thoreauputic: i meant to change the login manager from kdm to gdm ist dpkg-reconfigure gdm enough, or do I have to update the runlevels too with update-rc.d
[09:54] <ofer0> Seveas, i did "sudo -i" and it changed something, i dont know what exactly. i cant login to my regular username because of that. the reason: permission denied
[09:54] <Seveas> ekimus, that might be needed...
[09:54] <durt> !java
[09:54] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:54] <thoreauputic> ekimus: ah i see! dpkg-reconfigure should do it
[09:54] <Seveas> ofer0, that must have been your mistake
[09:54] <Seveas> i could have happened with su too
[09:55] <Seveas> what's the error on login?
[09:55] <ekimus> well I'll just try, a reboot a day keeps the kernel oops away :)
[09:55] <ofer0> Seveas, even though im the owner of /home/username, and in /etc/passwd its my correct home dir
[09:55] <Seveas> ekimus, *g*
[09:55] <Seveas> ofer0, what's the exact error on login?
[09:55] <icec_76> hi, can you help me with firefox im trying to upgrade to1.0.6 ,after i removed 1.2 it says cannot be upgraded?
[09:56] <thoreauputic> ekimus: have a look at /etc/X11/default-display-manager as well (quick way to change)
[09:56] <durt> use opera
[09:56] <icec_76> i like firefox
[09:56] <Seveas> icec_76, remove all traces of firefox
[09:56] <Seveas> and then retry
[09:56] <icec_76> i did
[09:56] <ofer0> Seveas, it logs me out immediatly, says permission denied on changing some file in /home/username/. even when i enter my /home/username using gnome recovery mode, i cant read /home/username. only with root
[09:56] <Seveas> icec_76, ten please paste the complete output/error on the pastebin
[09:56] <Yabden> icec_76 are you using the http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ source in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:57] <knowledge_> good night everyone
[09:57] <icec_76> yes
[09:57] <Yabden> comment it out and remove firefox
[09:57] <iiiears> g'nite
[09:57] <Yabden> it is a known problem that a few people have been having
[09:57] <Seveas> ofer0, if you can login as root, do this: chown -R username:username /home/username
[09:57] <ofer0> Seveas, did it already
[09:57] <icec_76> i'll try
[09:57] <Seveas> still no good?
[09:57] <Yabden> comment out both entries of that site if you have two
[09:57] <Yabden> it will definately fix your problem
[09:57] <ofer0> Seveas, yeah.
[09:58] <wahlau> anyone here tried installing networkmanager via alien using the rpm?
[09:58] <Seveas> ofer0, then chmod +w the_file_that_it_b0rks_about
[09:58] <ofer0> Seveas, +w is?
[09:58] <Seveas> writeable by anyone
[09:58] <ofer0> k thanx ill try and come back
[09:58] <Seveas> (you change it back later once it's solved)
[10:02] <wahlau> my hoary (Gnome to be specific) is crashing now
[10:02] <wahlau> cant even start terminal :(
[10:04] <wahlau> is breezy now pretty stable to test?
[10:06] <durt> wahlau: you might not want breezy if you have a touchpad... grargh!
[10:07] <wahlau> oh
[10:07] <wahlau> i have a touchpad :)
[10:07] <wahlau> but i use the red touch point
[10:07] <wahlau> :)
[10:07] <durt> maybe i just have no idea what im doing...
[10:07] <IceDC571> red touch point??
[10:08] <ofer0> Seveas, something very very strange. i did chmod -R +rw /home/user, AND I STILL CANT READ FROM IT!!!
[10:09] <IceDC571> ofer0: have you tried chmod 777 -R /home/user?
[10:09] <ofer0> IceDC571, giving execute permission to files that not supposed to run, is wrong
[10:09] <srijith> ofer0, I pity the poor "user" if you do 777 :)
[10:09] <ofer0> IceDC571, and no i didnt
[10:10] <ofer0> srijith, heh :P
[10:10] <ofer0> what could be the problem?? is that something related to gnome variables ?
[10:12] <benplaut> 'night
[10:12] <srijith> how do I adjust the laptop gamma in linux/ubuntu
[10:13] <srijith> laptop LCD I meant
[10:13] <durt> laptop what?
[10:14] <wahlau> what is the status of breezy now?
[10:14] <Seveas> ofer0, what is the EXACT error you get when logging in?
[10:14] <srijith> durt, gamma to calibrate the monitor
[10:14] <Seveas> wahlau, pretty good, but not stable enough fir everyday use
[10:14] <Seveas> srijith, xgamma
[10:15] <srijith> Seveas, I am looking for a frontend to xgamma, it is too primitive for layman user use..
[10:15] <wahlau> Seveas: thanks
[10:15] <wahlau> i need to consider because i screwed up my hoary
[10:15] <wahlau> :(
[10:15] <IceDC571> lol maybe thats why i run into problems when i give everything a chmod 777
[10:16] <hardw1re> hmmm, anyone know what this means, make[2] : *** No rule to make target `arch/x86_64/kernel/../../i386/kernel/bootflag.s', needed by `arch/x86_64/kernel/../../i386/kernel/bootflag.o'.  Stop.
[10:16] <srijith> haa .. got some.. lemme try them
[10:16] <Uthini-work> what are the permissions to make a drive mount with read-write permissions?
[10:16] <Uthini-work> i have 80 gigs that i can't write to
[10:17] <iiiears> where are the xgamma settings saved?
[10:17] <DrSpin> could someone send me a default hoary sources.list please ??
[10:17] <DrSpin> or tell me where I can find one LOL
[10:17] <iiiears> xgamma - neat tool
[10:17] <wahlau> guys, anyway i can reinstall gnome only?
[10:17] <wahlau> possible?
[10:17] <ofer0> Seveas, even thru the grub recovery console i cant enter my own /home/user, with +rw to all files, and user:user to all files.
[10:17] <AvatarofVirgo> Can some one tell me how to set up video cards manually in ubuntu.  Before I had suse and I ended up going to safe mode in grub and running sax2 after loggin into root.  I had to remove my video card plug in the monitor to my boards video and run sax2 because it would try to auto detect my card.  I have a very weird nvidia card that it gives a black screen when you load sax2.....
[10:18] <JairunCaloth> #crossover
[10:18] <JairunCaloth> meh
[10:18] <AvatarofVirgo> Any ways my video card is  a real chore to get to work in any distro.  How do I do it in ubuntu?
[10:18] <iiiears> Avatar, - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    - does it.
[10:18] <Yabden> AvatarofVirgo sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:18] <ofer0> Seveas, IMHO, the exact error is not relevant, ofcourse i cant run gnome if my home directory is unaccessable.
[10:18] <iiiears> !resolution
[10:18] <ubotu> resolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:18] <DrSpin> !sources
[10:18] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:19] <DrSpin> !apt
[10:19] <ofer0> !sudo
[10:19] <ubotu> I guess apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[10:19] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:19] <iiiears> ubotu you are a real timesaver.
[10:19] <ubotu> iiiears: I think you lost me on that one
[10:20] <Madpilot> eventually this whole channel will consist of nothing but people asking ubotu things, and it answering...
[10:20] <durt> !xgamma
[10:20] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, durt
[10:20] <durt> !ubuto
[10:20] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, durt
[10:20] <durt> !ubotu
[10:20] <apokryphos> Madpilot: doubtful
[10:20] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:20] <AvatarofVirgo> What about setting up my dialup connection?
[10:20] <iiiears> xgamma settings written to xorg.conf   ?
[10:20] <Seveas> ofer0, if you don't tell the exact error I can't help you ....
[10:20] <apokryphos> durt: don't abuse the bot :P
[10:20] <AvatarofVirgo> It wouldn't detect my external serial modem for some odd reason.
[10:20] <ofer0> Seveas, ok, if you insist.. ill go check
[10:21] <Uthini-work> lol
[10:21] <hardw1re> http://paste.husk.org/3996
[10:21] <Madpilot> apokryphos: I happened to switch back to my channel view just as three people in a row !'ed ubotu, and the thought occured to me... ;)
[10:22] <cafuego> !hi
[10:22] <ubotu> cafuego: Not a clue
[10:22] <Seveas> hardw1re, use make-kpkg to build ubuntu kernels...
[10:22] <cafuego> That damn bot is _so_ broken
[10:22] <Seveas> the !hi command is a plugin right?
[10:22] <cafuego> Seveas: yeah, which is on, afaik
[10:23] <cafuego> !hello
[10:23] <ubotu> cafuego: What?
[10:23] <DrSpin> could I convince someone to paste a default hoary sources.list for me please??
[10:23] <apokryphos> !sources
[10:23] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:23] <Seveas> DrAwesome, pastebin/969
[10:23] <cafuego> ubotu: stop being broken
[10:23] <ubotu> Well, fix me then!
[10:23] <Seveas> hehehe
[10:24] <Uthini-work> once i get my 80g to mount with read write
[10:24] <Uthini-work> cos then i can backup
[10:24] <DrSpin> !repositories
[10:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:24] <DrSpin> ;)
[10:24] <iiiears> cafuego - nice work! :)   ubotu is getting really smart
[10:25] <cafuego> iiiears: hey, don't blame me
[10:26] <Uthini-work> !mount
[10:26] <ubotu> I guess mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[10:26] <Uthini-work> !windowsdrives
[10:26] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[10:26] <cafuego> apokryphos: factoids referring to vapourware aren't welcome ;-)
[10:27] <apokryphos> cafuego: I'm still hoping :P
[10:27] <DrSpin> why would apt be ignoring "IGN" hoary-backports ??
[10:27] <cafuego> apokryphos: I was hopeful back in 2002, but honestly...
[10:28] <apokryphos> cafuego: when was 0.16 released?
[10:28] <cafuego> 1998 or something
[10:28] <apokryphos> cafuego: :-O. Didn't know it was so long ago. Are they perfectionists or is it genuinely never ready?
[10:28] <ofer0> Seveas, ok i copied it by hand, here it is:
[10:28] <iiiears> Do the developers know how many people are using Ubuntu everyday?   - do they record the ntp check on boot up?
[10:28] <apokryphos> that's worse than Dabian 8)
[10:29] <hardw1re> my kernel wont compile :(
[10:29] <Nermal> hardw1re, why are you compiling a kernel ?
[10:29] <Cyberpred> Question : is there software on ubuntu to control web access time? (internet cafe for a school)
[10:29] <ofer0> "your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. if you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installtion problem or that you may be out of diskspace. Try logging with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem.
[10:29] <ofer0> and than when i click "show details" it gives me the following 2 lines:
[10:29] <Uthini-work> tahts the thing with linux
[10:30] <Uthini-work> so much stuffs to install
[10:30] <Nermal> nah
[10:30] <Uthini-work> b4 u know it ur machine is flood with garbage
[10:30] <Nermal> at least with linux its all in one place
[10:30] <Nermal> rather than on loads of different cds / websites
[10:30] <ofer0> "(gnome-session:7717):libgnomevfs-WARNING **:Unable to create ~/.gnome dir : permission denied
[10:30] <Nermal> if you don't know what you're doing however..
[10:30] <hardw1re> cause there aint a 2.6.12 available on the apt-gets :P
[10:31] <Nermal> hardw1re, why do you need 2.6.12 ?
[10:31] <ofer0> "Could not create per-user gnome conf dir `/home/ofer/.gnome` : permission denied
[10:31] <DrSpin> it seems like the backports on #969 are rather outdated
[10:31] <DrSpin> 404
[10:31] <ofer0> Seveas, thats all..
[10:31] <Nermal> ofer0, make sure your home dir has the correct permissions
[10:31] <ofer0> Nermal, did it
[10:31] <Nermal> or do chown -R ofer:users /home/ofer/
[10:31] <hardw1re> cause i want to see if it'll run things better
[10:31] <Nermal> hardw1re, I doubt it
[10:32] <PPower> Extras are down AGAIN!
[10:32] <Nermal> anything in the changelogs significant ?
[10:32] <ofer0> Nermal, did it too ..
[10:32] <ofer0> =\
[10:32] <PPower> Needs authorization for the mirrormax one
[10:32] <Nermal> ofer0, disk space ?
[10:32] <ofer0> Nermal, atleast 150GB free
[10:32] <Nermal> hmmm
[10:32] <Nermal> mounted as rw
[10:32] <Nermal> ?
[10:32] <hardw1re> cause on 2.6.11 my quickcam doesnt work, does on 2.6.10-5, but then theres a problem with the nvidia drivers on 2.6.10-5, i think :S
[10:32] <ofer0> Nermal, yeap
[10:32] <apokryphos> PPower: there's several mirrors on about?
[10:32] <Nermal> hardw1re, you could just use a breezy kernel
[10:33] <Nermal> grab the .deb and install it
[10:33] <PPower> I know but they are all out of sync and it seems the ones on the forum are not working.
[10:33] <hardw1re> hmm, thats a smart suggestion
[10:33] <ofer0> Nermal, thanx for trying :)
[10:33] <Nermal> ofer0, sorry :|
[10:33] <DrSpin> I was getting the IGN for the mirrormax one
[10:33] <ofer0> Seveas -> any idea with the new info?
[10:33] <apokryphos> PPower: you're advised to not use the forum ones
[10:34] <Yabden> skip the mirrormax one, it has been giving people troubles, especially with firefox, gaim, and gimp-data
[10:34] <PPower> Then what should I use. PlanetMirror is down
[10:34] <Yabden> whatever sources you usually use minus the mirrormax entries
[10:35] <eliphas_> hello
[10:35] <PPower> Im trying this one with large hostingspace but that doesnt seem to have j2re or whatever on it
[10:35] <eliphas_> hello
[10:35] <Yabden> yeah someone i was talking to had to download the j2re package and install it manually
[10:35] <qiu> hello
[10:35] <m0rphx> hi
[10:36] <eliphas_> I have a problem with dns
[10:36] <eliphas_> when I surf I have to surf with the ip because I browser don't resolve the ip
[10:36] <eliphas_> hostname sorry
[10:36] <Yabden> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[10:36] <nalioth> eliphas_: by chance have you been using azureus?
[10:37] <eliphas_> long time ago
[10:37] <PPower> Thanks
[10:37] <eliphas_> why ?
[10:37] <apokryphos> PPower: planet mirror one is the worst -- it's often down. I always used the mirrormax one
[10:37] <hardw1re> Nermal: having some trouble finding the kernels for breezy :S
[10:37] <nalioth> eliphas_: how long ago, and how long has your machine not been resolving hostnames?
[10:37] <PPower> But mirrormax is down. Requires autorization
[10:38] <Nermal> hardw1re, one sec
[10:38] <DrSpin> PPower: apokryphos: I have the same problem
[10:38] <PPower> I wish someone would get their act together and merge it with official
[10:39] <hardw1re> wait think i've found it Nermal
[10:39] <apokryphos> PPower: hoary-extras is illegal
[10:39] <apokryphos> or, at least it was; haven't checked it lately
[10:39] <hardw1re> in the pool folder
[10:39] <PPower> Huh?
[10:39] <PPower> How can it be
[10:39] <apokryphos> Because of some of the software it holds/held; was not legal to do so
[10:39] <eliphas_> nalioth since yesterday but I change my isp and got a routeur
[10:39] <PPower> If it was well ill be annoyed because no way am I downloading Java of sun
[10:40] <PPower> Cant they just take thoses off
[10:40] <PPower> Better not be the nvidia drivers
[10:40] <apokryphos> I don't think java is in hoary-extras anymore
[10:40] <nalioth> eliphas_: i have the same problem, and i can't figure whether it's java or azureus. what version of java are you running?
[10:40] <Yabden> that link i pasted is to java, and it works fine
[10:40] <eliphas_> no when I surf to a friend I got no problem
[10:40] <PPower> Bother
[10:40] <Nermal> hardw1re, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.12%2Flinux-image-2.6.12-7-686_2.6.12-7.11_i386.deb&md5sum=8675219cef87d1c29108bb4bda5f5926&arch=i386&type=main
[10:40] <eliphas_> I got problem only at my place
[10:41] <PPower> Is backports OK?
[10:41] <eliphas_> and I am using bittornado with no problem
[10:41] <Nermal> hardw1re, you can use packages.ubuntu.com to find it (search for linux-image) :)
[10:41] <apokryphos> PPower: yes; it's an Ubuntu project, now.
[10:41] <eliphas_> java is in backport I think
[10:41] <eliphas_> I got java from it
[10:41] <apokryphos> eliphas_: no
[10:41] <nalioth> eliphas_: what does "surf to a friend" mean?
[10:41] <apokryphos> eliphas_: removed from that quite some time ago
[10:41] <Nermal> hardw1re, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-7-686_2.6.12-7.11_i386.deb also works :)
[10:41] <eliphas_> surf = browsing
[10:42] <PPower> Thats odd. Extras has just come up again. And its getting w32codecs. And thats legal cause I own 95, 98 and XP
[10:42] <DrSpin> I can't donlwoad java and the only server I'm having trouble with is for hoary-extras
[10:42] <ekimus> is there a way to nice memory usage not only cpu usage? or does nice all of that for me?
[10:42] <Yabden> download java from that link i posted damnit
[10:42] <PPower> Extras is definetly up now. Try refresh synaptic
[10:43] <DrSpin> PPower: mirrormax ??
[10:43] <DrSpin> PPower: just main worked...
[10:43] <PPower> Yep. If only IRC supported picturs
[10:43] <PPower> This is restricted
[10:43] <apokryphos> I've never seen mirrormax down, really...
[10:43] <PPower> Of extras
[10:44] <PPower> Yabden: I have downloaded it now
[10:44] <PPower> :-)
[10:44] <DrSpin> I'm getting "IGN" | Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restricted Packages
[10:44] <DrSpin> That's for everything except MAIN
[10:44] <eliphas_> but my problem is odd I can browse some site but some site like google I can't manage to reach it
[10:44] <DrSpin> eliphas_: are you behind a router?
[10:44] <PPower> Right. Now just for main.
[10:44] <nalioth> eliphas_: so you can browse to your friends computer? or at your friends computer?
[10:45] <eliphas_> I have a laptop if I go to to my friend I can browse but he isusing another isp
[10:46] <eliphas_> weird
[10:46] <nalioth> eliphas_: yes, very weird
[10:46] <PPower> I will test main soon
[10:47] <thespiritoftal> how can i connect to an address using ssh2 protocol?
[10:47] <esc> so, should I upgrade my kernel?
[10:47] <nalioth> thespiritoftal: ssh <address>
[10:48] <DrSpin> PPower: now main won't work -- I can browse it via normal HTTP --
[10:48] <DrSpin> :/ ??
[10:48] <PPower> Where is msstcorefonts from
[10:48] <nalioth> eliphas_: if your situation is anything like mine, it should correct itself within a week
[10:49] <Ng> thespiritoftal: as nalioth says, or -2 if you really want to force it
[10:50] <kreep-> hi, is there a way i can browse ubuntu packages with a browser, something like packages.debian.org
[10:50] <kreep-> oh wait, nevermind taht
[10:50] <Ng> kreep-: packages.ubuntu.com ;)
[10:50] <hardw1re> Nermal: hmm theres linux-images, but what about linux-headers?
[10:50] <churd-tzu> hey guys
[10:51] <kreep-> thabks Ng, today i`m just plain stupid
[10:51] <n> Anyone here know how to use d4x? I just left my PC on all night to download a few .isos and it says all 3 are 100% done but the files are nowhere to be found!
[10:51] <churd-tzu> I installed ubuntu, then installed windows on another partition... any idea how to get grub back on?
[10:51] <Ng> hehe
[10:51] <DrSpin> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras/main universe multiverse restricted
[10:51] <DrSpin> LOL oops
[10:51] <nalioth> churd-tzu: there is an article on the wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:51] <eliphas_> like from my home if I go to google.com I got a connection refuse but i go to http://www.ubuntu.com it works
[10:51] <Yabden> churd-tzu http://ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation
[10:51] <Seveas> churd-tzu, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:52] <churd-tzu> w00t
[10:52] <Seveas> Yabden, please don't advise ubuntuguide crud
[10:52] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[10:52] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[10:52] <Yabden> it works fine
[10:52] <Yabden> NEVER
[10:52] <robertbb> haha
[10:52] <saintFrance> hello guys! its been awhile
[10:52] <Seveas> Yabden, ubuntuguide is crap
[10:52] <Yabden> it is a decent resource
[10:52] <Seveas> poeple in here spent countless hours solving problems caused by it
[10:52] <nalioth> churd-tzu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:52] <Seveas> people*
[10:53] <Yabden> ill be more careful recommending it, but i know for a fact that what i linked works
[10:53] <saintFrance> hey guys how do i get linux to read the other drives i have and the my other operating system files and stuff
[10:53] <Nermal> hardw1re, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-headers-2.6.12-7-686_2.6.12-7.11_i386.deb
[10:53] <Nermal> same dir.. don't be lazy :)
[10:53] <PPower> Extras down again
[10:53] <PPower> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg [189B]
[10:53] <PPower> Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release.gpg [189B]
[10:53] <PPower> Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release.gpg [189B]
[10:53] <PPower> Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release [16.9kB]
[10:53] <PPower> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release
[10:53] <PPower> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release
[10:53] <PPower> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages
[10:53] <Seveas> FOOL
[10:53] <Seveas> never paste in here
[10:53] <Nermal> lol
[10:53] <Seveas> you know that...
[10:53] <Yabden> saintFrance you need to edit /etc/fstab
[10:54] <saintFrance> how do i do that?
[10:54] <nalioth> saintFrance: read your private msgs
[10:54] <Seveas> saintFrance, windows/mac drives?
[10:54] <saintFrance> oh lol
[10:54] <Yabden> i already know how to mount drives damnit i dont need queries about it
[10:54] <Kyynara> My problem is this: I can't alt+tab away from a game (quake2) for some reason, but is it possible to start the game in another "X window" so that I can ctrl+alt+FX between the two X clients?
[10:55] <jebem> suomalaisia?
[10:55] <Seveas> Kyynara, you can use applications -> system tools -> new login to get that extra X
[10:56] <Kyynara> thanks
[10:56] <ali_> hi there i want to take the screen shots of my ubuntu installation ? is it possible ?
[10:56] <Seveas> ali_, yes
[10:56] <ali_> anybody have used qemu ? will it work to install ? over linux ?
[10:56] <Seveas> use the prt.scr button :)
[10:56] <Ng> I'm told qemu is goood enough
[10:56] <Seveas> !quemu
[10:56] <ubotu> Seveas: What?
[10:56] <Seveas> !qemu
[10:56] <ubotu> from memory, qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[10:56] <Ng> someone asked a similar question on a lug ml yesterday ;)
[10:56] <Seveas> ^-- ali_
[10:57] <Kromonos|aFk> How can I install mp3?
[10:57] <Seveas> !mp3
[10:57] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[10:57] <Kromonos|aFk> thx
[10:57] <ali_> but Seveas how to take the shots
[10:57] <neo78> ahoy everyboydy!
[10:57] <Seveas> use the prt.scr button :)
[10:57] <ali_> Seveas, when i am installing /
[10:57] <ofer0> i have already take pictures of all ubuntu installtion screens. watch it here: http://www.imc-il.com/david/Project
[10:57] <neo78> my 2nd day of ubuntu...
[10:57] <Seveas> ali_, oh, you mean during install
[10:58] <ofer0> Soon will be translated to english.
[10:58] <ali_> Seveas how to save the pic ?
[10:58] <neo78> maybe i should write a blog
[10:58] <Seveas> in that case: no
[10:58] <ali_> yep
[10:58] <Kromonos|aFk> Why can't I install the streamripper?
[10:58] <DrSpin> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[10:58] <DrSpin> :/
[10:58] <neo78> anyways, how do i raise my screen resolution ?
[10:58] <ali_> i need to take pics of installation ? any way anyone knows ?
[10:58] <Seveas> DrSpin, grab a java deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:58] <neo78> (highest option i'm given is 1024 x 768)
[10:58] <Seveas> ali_, digital camera, photograph your screen :)
[10:58] <Yabden> neo78 do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:59] <Wombat> hello
[10:59] <ali_> i guess if you qemu can imulate the installation will be better
[10:59] <DrSpin> neo78: #sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:59] <Seveas> ofer0, how did you take these shots?
[10:59] <ali_> anyone have used qemu ?
[10:59] <nalioth> Seveas: you've been a busy little beaver
[11:00] <Danny|> Anyone here from Croatia? ^^
[11:00] <Wombat> I'm not from Croatia
[11:00] <Danny|> :|
[11:01] <neo78> i have a friend from croatia
[11:01] <Kromonos|aFk> What the fuck is going on there *argh*
[11:01] <thongta> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[11:01] <thongta> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[11:01] <thongta> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[11:01] <thongta> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[11:01] <thongta> ## after the final release of the distribution.
[11:01] <thongta> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[11:01] <thongta> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[11:01] <thongta> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[11:01] <thongta> ## repository.
[11:01] <Kromonos|aFk> No mpeg streaming
[11:01] <thongta> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[11:01] <thongta> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[11:01] <thongta> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[11:01] <Kromonos|aFk> no mp3 playing
[11:01] <apokryphos> thongta: don't paste in here
[11:01] <thongta> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[11:01] <thongta> ## team.
[11:01] <Danny|> neo78, doesnt help me much ^^ I'm asking due to probs with getting the croatian keyboard layout to work
[11:01] <Kromonos|aFk> *grml*
[11:01] <neo78> flooding...
[11:01] <thongta> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[11:01] <apokryphos> gah
[11:01] <thongta> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[11:01] <thongta> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[11:01] <thongta> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[11:01] <nalioth> Seveas: you must have blinked
[11:02] <thongta> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[11:02] <thongta> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[11:02] <thongta> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[11:02] <Seveas> jeez
[11:02] <neo78> *sigh* thanks Seveas
[11:02] <Seveas> i am away for 3 seconds
[11:02] <Wombat> whew
[11:02] <Seveas> thongta, get out, get some netiquette and don't come back before reading the channel topic
[11:02] <saintFrance> nalioth: how do i run the winmac_fstab
[11:03] <neo78> ./winmac_fstab methinks
[11:03] <nalioth> saintFrance: read the instructions at the top of it (it opens in a text editor)
[11:03] <Seveas> saintFrance, sudo bash winmac_fstab
[11:03] <apokryphos> Seveas: hi, did you delete the E factoid?
[11:03] <saintFrance> yes but it says
[11:03] <neo78> aah of course
[11:03] <saintFrance> it doesnt exist
[11:03] <saintFrance> in that folder
[11:03] <neo78> my memory doesn't last very long...
[11:03] <saintFrance> or something
[11:03] <Seveas> apokryphos, not that I can remember
[11:03] <nalioth> saintFrance: you have to execute things not in your $PATH with a ./  before the executable
[11:04] <apokryphos> ok
[11:04] <neo78> Yabden, i get a message saying xserver-org is not installed
[11:04] <Wombat> Where should I ask gtkmm questions? I am a computer programmer.
[11:04] <thongta1> hi all
[11:04] <thongta1> i'm real sorry
[11:05] <thongta1> i have mistake about my paste
[11:05] <apokryphos> thongta1: for long pieces of text, use a pastebin
[11:05] <Seveas> ban avoiding is a good way to get a permanent ban
[11:06] <ofer0> Seveas, i take these shots with KQemu
[11:06] <ofer0> you can take them if you want, GPL...
[11:06] <ofer0> GFDL
[11:07] <ali_> i am also using kubuntu
[11:07] <ali_> desktop on my ubuntu
[11:07] <saintFrance> guys it keeps saying "no such file or directory"
[11:07] <neo78> how do i raise the resolution on ubuntu (i can only push it up as far as 1024x768)
[11:07] <ofer0> !google kqemu
[11:07] <ubotu> ofer0: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:07] <nalioth> saintFrance: when you do "ls winmac*" what does it tell you?
[11:08] <Yabden> neo78 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:08] <Wombat> Any pointers on Gnome programming in C++? Where should I ask questions about gtkmm?
[11:08] <iiiears> Heya Seveas! - Thanks again.
[11:08] <saintFrance> i keep getting no such file or directory
[11:09] <nalioth> saintFrance: answer my last question, please
[11:09] <saintFrance> thats what it said
[11:09] <nalioth> saintFrance: then u need to find where you put it
[11:09] <tenco> i have problems setting up wpa_supplicant
[11:10] <tenco> i always get: Disconnect event - remove keys
[11:10] <saintFrance> k
[11:10] <saintFrance> got it sorry
[11:10] <saintFrance> haha
[11:10] <tenco> ?
[11:10] <hans__> !java
[11:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:11] <tenco> i have problems setting up wpa_supplicant
[11:12] <neo78> Yabden, thanks, i typed it in wrong the first time
[11:12] <NoHope> hello all
[11:13] <concept10> anyone with NFS experience
[11:13] <lemonsforbreakfa> install boot problems, any help appreciated
[11:13] <lemonsforbreakfa> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59723
[11:14] <neo78> Yabden, damnit, that's a complicated program....
[11:14] <neo78> i just wanna change my res!!!
[11:14] <churd-tzu> I tried doing the manual grub setup, but it told me I didn't have /boot/grub/stage2
[11:14] <neo78> not autodetect my mouse!
[11:14] <saintFrance> where can i get codecs/decoders for the media player?
[11:14] <concept10> !restricted
[11:14] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:16] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, have suggestion for you
[11:16] <lemonsforbreakfa> yes?
[11:16] <concept10> make three partitions on that drive
[11:17] <concept10> windows xp, NTFS... linux, ext3 ... share partition fat32
[11:17] <durt> night all - almost time to wake up :(
[11:17] <concept10> install windows first.
[11:18] <ofer0> its 12:20:18 here
[11:18] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, what size harddisc is it?
[11:18] <lemonsforbreakfa> 160GB
[11:19] <concept10> well, divide accordingly, but thats the path I would take.
[11:19] <concept10> works for me.
[11:20] <lemonsforbreakfa> that's what I'm trying at.  Ubuntu installation with Windows already there has issues
[11:20] <concept10> the only difference, I have a external USB drive, 80 gigs, with two partitions ext3 and fat32
[11:20] <wahlau> anyone done Gnome reinstallation b4?
[11:21] <ali_> what do you want to know
[11:21] <ali_> just upgrade
[11:21] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, if you install windows after installing ubuntu, you will not be able to boot it.  Windows overwrites the MBR
[11:22] <ali_> whalau use apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[11:22] <wahlau> very good
[11:22] <ali_> apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[11:22] <lemonsforbreakfa> I've found that much on my own, but GRUB and LILO won't install when an NTFS partition is there
[11:22] <wahlau> my gnome is crashing everytime i login
[11:22] <ali_> what is the error
[11:22] <wahlau> no idea
[11:22] <wahlau> i can't even open Terminal
[11:23] <wahlau> keep giving this dialog where i can restart, close or inform developer
[11:23] <concept10> how many drives do you have, just one?
[11:23] <lemonsforbreakfa> yes
[11:23] <ali_> try resinstall ;) good luck
[11:23] <concept10> are you trying to install GRUB or LILO   OR   GRUB and LILO
[11:24] <concept10> or?
[11:24] <wahlau> ali_: thans
[11:24] <lemonsforbreakfa> or
[11:24] <ali_> yw
[11:24] <ali_> ;)
[11:24] <wahlau> better than reinstall hoary :)
[11:24] <lemonsforbreakfa> as in they both fail
[11:25] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, I dont see what the problem could be, maybe if your trying to install on a fat32 system.
[11:25] <concept10> were you trying to install ubunu on a fat32 system?
[11:25] <HateSpawn> hey anyway to run geexbox with this
[11:26] <lemonsforbreakfa> no.  I installed Ubuntu to an ext3 partition.
[11:26] <lemonsforbreakfa> I'll print this all out and try it again.  I just hope Windows stays bootable this time
[11:27] <HateSpawn> with the live cd how do i get to the windows partitions?
[11:27] <Seveas> HateSpawn: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[11:27] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, partition drives as you like first, install windows, install ubuntu and use grub
[11:28] <lemonsforbreakfa> should the non-NTFS drives be formatted prior to Windows install?
[11:28] <cantrel29> hello, how can I reset the system time.
[11:28] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, you could do that.
[11:28] <Seveas> lemonsforbreakfa, the installer can format them too
[11:29] <wahlau> btw, anyway i can upgrade gnome instead of using the current Ubuntu one?
[11:29] <ubuntu_> heloo
[11:29] <concept10> Seveas, do you know how to setup an NFS client?
[11:29] <ubuntu_> what up
[11:29] <Seveas> wahlau, that's not recommended
[11:29] <lemonsforbreakfa> Saveas, it won't partition FAT32 on my machine
[11:29] <Seveas> concept10, there's no need to set it up
[11:29] <wahlau> Seveas: ok, just wondering
[11:29] <Seveas> just mount nfs partitions :)
[11:29] <Wizzo> Can someone please help, everytime I install Ubuntu on my other computer, when rebooting I get Grub Error 18.
[11:29] <wahlau> before i give up and turn to Sarge
[11:29] <wahlau> :D
[11:29] <Wizzo> It has only started happening in the new version of Ubuntu.
[11:29] <Wizzo> And Grub has also worked on any distro.
[11:30] <HateSpawn> winmac_fstab just loads in gedit
[11:30] <lemonsforbreakfa> nfs?
[11:30] <concept10> Seveas,  I am trying to get NFS working, im trying to mount a directory on my sarge server, but I think my client isnt setup right. I used this: sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/mnt/jukebox /media/nfs/ and got this: mount: RPC: Program not registered
[11:30] <HateSpawn> where might i place it
[11:30] <kemik> concept10:  get nfs-common on client ?
[11:30] <ubuntu> after booting up in kubuntu live, i much prefer the gnome ubuntu
[11:30] <Wizzo> can anyone help?
[11:30] <Wizzo> please.
[11:31] <kemik> !anyone
[11:31] <Wizzo> I currently have no os on either computer as Windows got some damn virus (typical).
[11:31] <ubotu> well, anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[11:31] <HateSpawn> winmac_fstab where do i save it to?
[11:31] <concept10> kemik, I have it already. thats why I dont understand the error
[11:31] <kemik> HateSpawn:  anywhere.. doesnt matter
[11:32] <kemik> concept10:  portmap ?
[11:32] <HateSpawn> kemik then restart the live cd?
[11:32] <concept10> kemik, yep, and running.
[11:32] <kemik> concept10:  rpc.statd ?
[11:32] <Wizzo> Please, I can't stand using a LiveCD...
[11:32] <cantrel29> hello, my system time is set to utc but I appear to be a day out. how do I synch time from the command line?
[11:32] <kemik> HateSpawn:  oh, a livecd.. i dunno =)
[11:32] <Wizzo> I really don't feel like a lecture on how to sask questions.
[11:32] <Wizzo> ask, even.
[11:32] <concept10> kemik, yep, running.
[11:33] <HateSpawn> people slow down,wait they'll get to u
[11:33] <kemik> Wizzo:  uhm.. grub error 18? never heard of :/
[11:33] <aleitner> does anybody know which xorg version will be shipped with breezy?
[11:33] <Wizzo> It's happened everytime I've tried installing the new version of ubuntu on that computer.
[11:33] <concept10> aleitner, the SUPER version
[11:34] <fabbione> aleitner: 6.9/7.0
[11:34] <aleitner> concept10: hmmm (; does that one have a number?
[11:34] <concept10> aleitner, seriously, maybe you could check packages.ubuntu.org
[11:34] <kemik> Wizzo:  http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
[11:34] <aleitner> fabbione: aren't those two versions?
[11:34] <Wizzo> Thanks.
[11:34] <aleitner> concept10: packages says 6.8, but somehow I doubt that...
[11:34] <fabbione> aleitner: it means either 6.9 or 7.0
[11:35] <concept10> kemik, any more ideas?
[11:35] <aleitner> fabbione: ahh, so it is not decided yet?
[11:35] <fabbione> the server is still at 6.8.2
[11:35] <fabbione> all the other stuff is already 6.9/7.0
[11:35] <kemik> concept10:  the server is ssetup correctly ?
[11:35] <fabbione> aleitner: no, it's a bit different and more complex to explain
[11:35] <aleitner> fabbione: interesting. yes it seems it is not so trivial indeed (;
[11:35] <Wizzo> Ok I see the problem, Ubuntu put the boot in too far away from the start of the drive...
[11:36] <Wizzo> Can I make a custom partition and get ubuntu to install into it?
[11:36] <aleitner> fabbione: do you happen to know whether the r300 3d driver (open source) will make it in?
[11:36] <Wizzo> And if so, how large would the partition need to be?
[11:36] <aleitner> fabbione: thats the radeon driver for newer radeon cards...
[11:36] <fabbione> aleitner: no idea.. hounestly.. it seems it will, but i can't be sure
[11:36] <srijith> Wizzo, make /boot as first partition and restrict it to 100MB or so
[11:36] <Wizzo> Ok, thanks very much.
[11:36] <kemik> concept10:  http://www.freebsddiary.org/nfs-portmap.php
[11:37] <aleitner> fabbione: cool. thanks anyway. i guess i will have to wait and see...
[11:37] <Wizzo> I'll get back to you later if it works. :)
[11:37] <srijith> but it is strange cos I though bootloaders no longer had problems like these...
[11:37] <concept10> kemik, bsddiary, heh..
[11:37] <kemik> concept10:  yeah ;)
[11:38] <aleitner> ok, thanks and cu
[11:38] <bobmarley> hey
[11:38] <frisbebo1> where is the settings for if i wanne add a second g-card?
[11:38] <kemik> concept10:  dont copy-paste the stuff, just adapt it to your install.. the same procedure could work slightly adapted
[11:38] <concept10> kemik, it should be almost the same almost on any *nix box
[11:38] <frisbebo1> in gnome?
[11:39] <HateSpawn> brb
[11:39] <HateSpawn> wait
[11:39] <kemik> concept10:  seem like thay just restart the services on the server and tries mounting again on the client
[11:39] <kemik> concept10:  im running NFS too, (ubuntu client, debian server)
[11:40] <frisbebo1> any1 running ubuntu with two screens/g-cards?
[11:40] <HateSpawn> \whats the MIN requierments HD space for ubutu? and will it Use a Boot vloader and find My GEEXBOX ,And Windows  and Let me Choose Them
[11:40] <blaq> hey guys, is there a way for me to place a smb share into /etc/fstab through a graphical interface?
[11:41] <kemik> HateSpawn:  im not sure about the "official" requirements, but i'd say around 3gb... but im not sure ;)
[11:41] <blaq> when i used to use mandrake, it had a module in its system configuration and maintenance utility that would provide me with a nice graphical interface to /etc/fstab.conf and i was wondering if (k)ubuntu had the same
[11:41] <HateSpawn> 3 gigers eh
[11:41] <HateSpawn> k
[11:41] <frisbebo1> blaq: gedit /etc/fstab rather
[11:41] <kemik> blaq:  possibly, but you can do it with a simple texteditor too
[11:41] <HateSpawn> laters and thanks
[11:41] <blaq> yeah but it was a huge pain in the arse to get all the right settings
[11:42] <blaq> i'd love if there was some option somewhere where i can right click something and click mount
[11:42] <neo78> hello again...
[11:42] <blaq> remote:/ and smb:// just don't work for most applications
[11:42] <neo78> how do i import EVERYTHING from Outlook into Evolution?
[11:43] <neo78> most articles only seem to explain importing mail messages
[11:43] <neo78> what about calendar, contacts, memos, task list etc?
[11:44] <Madpilot> !list
[11:44] <ubotu> hmm... list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:44] <concept10> kemik, i restarted the server on the sarge box and now it says permission denied.  could you post an example from /etc/export?
[11:45] <setepo> is easy to install ubuntu in a pc with sata disks?
[11:46] <tenco_> the wpa howto on the wiki doesnt work - i get always the same error :-\
[11:46] <concept10> neo78, from what I know, you must export everything individually
[11:46] <nalioth> setepo: it was cut-and-dried on my powermac with sata disks
[11:47] <Whistler> hi
[11:47] <Whistler> is it possible to upgrade to breezy?
[11:47] <Whistler> or should i do fresh install
[11:47] <Whistler> ?
[11:47] <kemik> concept10:   /share/directory      boxthatcanmountIP#(options)
[11:47] <nalioth> Whistler: if you want a headache, or two
[11:47] <Seveas> it's possible to upgrade
[11:47] <Seveas> but not advised to do it already
[11:47] <Whistler> hm.
[11:48] <concept10> kemik, /mnt/jukebox <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,root_squash,insecure)
[11:48] <tenco_> no one has wpa running here? :\
[11:48] <Whistler> what a heck ill wait a few weeks
[11:48] <concept10> kemik, is that incorrect?
[11:48] <kemik> concept10:  try removing root_squash,insecure
[11:48] <kemik> concept10:  to try
[11:50] <wahlau> re
[11:51] <wahlau> i think i figured out what's wrong
[11:51] <concept10> kemik, BTW - I used this page: http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/nfs.htm
[11:51] <neo78> tenco, i have a little bit of experience with WPA
[11:52] <wahlau> nothing was wrong with gnome, but it was due to the updated SCIM
[11:53] <fredforfaen> whats SCIM?
[11:53] <neo78> what's a good graphical DC++ client for ubuntu?
[11:53] <goldfish> google it.
[11:54] <ilba7r> anyone know what is the gam_server and why it is eating up my cpu?
[11:54] <icewt> neo78, DC++ under wine
[11:54] <m0rphx> scim is a input method for x, to enter chinese for example
[11:54] <ilba7r> !gam_server
[11:54] <ubotu> ilba7r: Syntax error in line 1
[11:54] <kemik> concept10:  mmh, that tutorial looks about right.. (i only skimmed it, but no glaring errors)
[11:54] <kemik> concept10:  still no luck ?
[11:54] <fredforfaen> !gam
[11:54] <ubotu> fredforfaen: Are you on ritalin?
[11:54] <m0rphx> ilba7r: gam_server watches your harddrive for changes
[11:55] <kemik> neo78:  DC++ for linux
[11:55] <m0rphx> nautilus uses it to update the desktop
[11:55] <kemik> !dcpp
[11:55] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, kemik
[11:55] <kemik> ubotu dcpp is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084
[11:55] <ubotu> kemik: okay
[11:55] <goldfish> apt-cache search dc++
[11:56] <ilba7r> thanx mOrphx but why it is eating my cpu & am not using nautilus am using enlightenment at the moment
[11:56] <kemik> ubotu no dcpp is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084 , a porting of the popular DC++ client
[11:56] <ubotu> kemik: okay
[11:57] <goldfish> ubotu: forget dcpp
[11:57] <ubotu> i forgot dcpp, goldfish
[11:57] <kemik> goldfish:   ?
[11:57] <goldfish> kemik:
[11:58] <kemik> goldfish:  care  to explain why you did that ?
[11:59] <goldfish> kemik: Because it's useless information.
[11:59] <goldfish> And i'm bored.
[11:59] <kemik> is it really useless? why so ?
[12:00] <kemik> and "bored" is hardly justification for anything
[12:00] <goldfish> It is.
[12:00] <kemik> if you're "bored" mayb you should not be here?
[12:00] <goldfish> kemik: press up 5 times and put it back in.
[12:00] <kemik> why dont YOU do it ?
[12:00] <kemik> and stop trolling
[12:00] <ilba7r> !info dnotify
[12:00] <ubotu> dnotify: (Execute a command when the contents of a directory change), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.18.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 120 kB
[12:01] <ilba7r> !info gam_server
[12:01] <kemik> ubotu dcpp is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084 , a porting of the popular DC++ client
[12:01] <_Devin_> when will be "Breezy RC1" released?
[12:01] <ubotu> kemik: okay
[12:03] <Adross> my comp seems to be maxxing out at idle. Two things, this only started today, and system monitor won'
[12:03] <Adross> t tell me whats using it
[12:04] <tvo> _Devin_, October 6th, ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule )
[12:04] <kemik> Adross:  try "top" from a commandline
[12:05] <Adross> kemik: everything's at 0, except for a few, which are below 2%, which certainly doesn't account for...this
[12:05] <Seveas> goldfish: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[12:05] <goldfish> Ok.
[12:05] <Adross> ah, never mind, killed beagle seemed to fix it
[12:05] <Adross> *killing
[12:06] <Seveas> and NEVER just delete things fromm ubotu...
[12:06] <goldfish> Ok/
[12:06] <Adross> thanks anyway everyone
[12:08] <xenomeliteforce> hi all. Anyone got a Trust Spacecam running? It only works with Video 4 Linux 2 (V4L2) for me, but AMSN, ... only use V4L :-/
[12:08] <xenomeliteforce> it's a Spacecam 120
[12:08] <DjKritical-> I'm getting an error while trying to install ubuntu for the first time.... dpkg error processing linux-restricted-modules - dependancy problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:10] <DjKritical-> anyone know why that might happen?
[12:11] <DjKritical-> any more importantly.. should I stop the installation?
[12:12] <Seveas> DjKritical-, whoah, which version is that?
[12:13] <DjKritical-> 5.04 I think
[12:13] <Seveas> official CD or home-baked?
[12:13] <DjKritical-> I downloaded it last night from the main site
[12:13] <DjKritical-> burnt it just now
[12:13] <DjKritical-> are you thinking currupted Image?
[12:14] <Wizzo> It worked.
[12:14] <Wizzo> Thanks for your help.
[12:15] <tenco_> the wpa howto on the wiki doesnt work - i get always the same error :-\
[12:16] <cas> hi, I've a problem when logging into my breezy pc. It takes almost three minutes before i'm in and then i have an error that my XKB configuration is wrong.
[12:16] <cas> can anyone tell me what could be wrong?
[12:17] <DjKritical-> okay.. I'm going to re-download ubuntu =(
[12:17] <twilight> cas, search in bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:17] <twilight> it's a known problem
[12:18] <cas> tnx twilight found it
[12:18] <Seveas> DjKritical-, before burning verify the md5sum of the iso
[12:18] <Seveas> and burn at low speed
[12:18] <cyphase> DjKritical, try using Graveman
[12:18] <cyphase> better then the nautilus burning
[12:21] <DjKritical-> I downloaded the ISO in windows... I've never checked an MD5 sum before also..
[12:21] <cantrel29> hello, I would like to know how to reset my system clock from the command line.  Can anyone help?
[12:22] <cas> cantrel29: man date
[12:23] <otep> ei does anyone ever encounter this:
[12:23] <cantrel29> cas: right, but I thought the clock was supposed to be synched with a date server. so how can you force it to resynch?
[12:23] <otep> error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
[12:24] <ali_> how to install from hard disk
[12:25] <cas> cantrel29: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart
[12:25] <DjKritical> Can anyone tell me how to do an md5 check of the ubunti iso file in windows?
[12:25] <ali_> can anyone tell me how to install from the hard disk
[12:26] <cantrel29> cas: thankyou very much. that worked a charm!
[12:26] <ali_> i have the iso on my fat32 partition what is the possible way to access it and insall from the iso image ?
[12:26] <cas> DjKritical: there are many programs for that.
[12:26] <cas> DjKritical: http://www.fastsum.com/ was the first hit in google ;)
[12:27] <lemonsforbreakfa> http://wxchecksums.sourceforge.net/ from The Source
[12:28] <ali_> is there any possible floppy to boot because i tried to create a folder for boot and use grub for dos but that failed
[12:29] <lemonsforbreakfa> does anyone know of a program to format FAT32 partitions >32GB?
[12:29] <otep> hmmm
[12:29] <liable> um, isnt the limit on file size, not partition?
[12:30] <kemik> both
[12:30] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  FAT32 isnt capped on 32gb, only in windows paritioning
[12:30] <liable> hmm, was sure I had a 40G one at some stage..
[12:30] <otep> ei does anyone ever encounter this:
[12:30] <otep> error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
[12:30] <lemonsforbreakfa> in FAT32 files have to be <4GiB and partitions have to be <2TiB
[12:30] <kemik> liable:  that is correct, the limit is far higher than 32gb
[12:30] <lemonsforbreakfa> I know it's only capped in windows.  I need a program to do it
[12:31] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  yup. i think Partition MAgic will do it for you
[12:31] <ali_> is there a way to install from image on the ?
[12:31] <liable> fdisk....
[12:31] <ali_> hard drive
[12:31] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  or any linux tool
[12:31] <lemonsforbreakfa> Ubuntu install fails to format it
[12:31] <kemik> ali_:  burn the image to a cd and boot?
[12:31] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  try using a livecd like knoppix perhaps ?
[12:32] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  not sure why ubuntu installer would fail
[12:32] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  or use partition magic (for windows)
[12:32] <ali_> kemik, is there a way to directly install from the hard disk ?
[12:32] <lemonsforbreakfa> getting partition magic
[12:32] <ali_> i have read it is possible to install directly from the hard drive ?
[12:32] <neo78> when will we actually be able to play games on linux?
[12:33] <ali_> now can ?
[12:33] <neo78> i'm busy downloading the myst v demo
[12:33] <ali_> you dont have gnome ?
[12:34] <DjKritical> Okay I don't understand how to check an iso file against the md5sum.txt file contained inside the ubuntu iso file. I've downloaded 3 programs which make their own md5 sums... but none of them will check this existing one
[12:35] <lemonsforbreakfa> DjKritical: extract the contents to your HD then use WXChecksums for it
[12:35] <DjKritical> cheers =)
[12:35] <lemonsforbreakfa> I don't think any utilities check files inside an iso
[12:36] <DjKritical> okay because thats what I really didn't know
[12:36] <cas> lemonsforbreakfa: afaik is the checksum for the whole isofile, not it's contents
[12:36] <DjKritical> ?
[12:36] <Jowi> DjKritical: md5sum for windows with docs: http://theopencd.sunsite.dk/md5.php
[12:37] <lemonsforbreakfa> ...oh.  I thought he was talking about md5sum.txt inside the iso file, not the *.iso.md5
[12:37] <bateau> how can i fix so that my scroll wheel works on my mouse?
[12:37] <DjKritical> I am
[12:37] <lemonsforbreakfa> though at that rate why not use the *.iso.md5, fetching link
[12:37] <DjKritical> I don't have the *.iso.md5
[12:37] <DjKritical> I didn't even see a link for it
[12:38] <lemonsforbreakfa> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS
[12:38] <DjKritical> cheers
[12:38] <lemonsforbreakfa> close enough
[12:39] <Jowi> bateau: add this to your mouse "inputdevice" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf:        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[12:39] <Hello_World> Hi
[12:39] <DjKritical> hell world
[12:40] <srijith> did u mean hello? :
[12:40] <Hello_World> does anybody know if the j2re is available from the ubuntu servers?
[12:40] <srijith> :)
[12:40] <srijith> !java
[12:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:40] <DjKritical> haha yeah
[12:40] <lemonsforbreakfa> hello: you could get it from java.sun.com if you like
[12:41] <Hello_World> ty
[12:41] <bateau> Jowi: i dont have a folder named "X11" :/
[12:41] <Seveas> Hello_World, better not download from sub directly
[12:41] <bateau> oh
[12:41] <bateau> my bad
[12:41] <Seveas> use a .deb
[12:41] <Jowi> bateau: /etc/X11/xorg.conf. it's there
[12:41] <Hello_World> Hello_World, better not download from sub directly           <---i'd be to lazy anyway :D
[12:42] <Seveas> *g*
[12:43] <bateau> oki Jowi, its done :D do i need to reboot?
[12:43] <Jowi> bateau: you only need to restart X (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[12:44] <bateau> oki
[12:44] <bateau> thnx :D
[12:44] <Jowi> np
[12:44] <Hello_World> startx starts X11 once again...
[12:44] <Hello_World> ctrl+alt+backspace only ends it
[12:45] <Jowi> Hello_World: it will restart by itself
[12:45] <bateau> oh, oki. so i need to save all and stuff?
[12:45] <Hello_World> y
[12:46] <Jowi> bateau: yeah, the whole X system with its application will be shutdown
[12:46] <Hello_World> Jowi: it didn't when i pressed Ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:46] <Hello_World> well, i guess u know better, i'm just a n4p :D
[12:46] <hardw1re> bah, yet another reinstall of ubuntu :(
[12:46] <Jowi> Hello_World: maybe a fluke. mine restarts fine :-)
[12:46] <hardw1re> how do i add my account into the sudoers ?
[12:47] <bimberi> hardw1re: sudo visudo
[12:47] <Jowi> hardw1re: add this line: hardwire ALL=(ALL) ALL
[12:48] <hardw1re> cheers, thanks guyz :D
[12:48] <Seveas> hardw1re, or: adduser hardwie admin
[12:48] <Seveas> that adds the user to the admin group
[12:49] <Seveas> (which is in sudoers by default)
[12:49] <srijith> anyone here worked on xlib stuff ?
[12:49] <bimberi> ahh, mine is an upgraded warty... no admin group
[12:50] <Jowi> bimberi: easy to add: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[12:51] <Jowi> ...or did you mean no admin group at all?
[12:51] <bimberi> Jowi: none at all
[12:51] <Jowi> haha, ok
[12:52] <DjKritical> okay..
[12:52] <DjKritical> I just did an md5 check of my install iso
[12:52] <DjKritical> they match
[12:52] <DjKritical> so next step... try burning it at a slower speed and try again?
[12:52] <Seveas> yup
[12:52] <DjKritical> =( okey dokie
[12:52] <sweatybob> How long will ubuntu take to install?
[12:53] <ninnghizidha> about 30 miutes :-)
[12:53] <sweatybob> really?
[12:53] <Jowi> about 20-30 minutes
[12:53] <ninnghizidha> yeah, really.
[12:53] <ekimus> is there a way to remove unneeded locales?
[12:53] <sweatybob> you sure.............
[12:53] <Seveas> ekimus, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:53] <sweatybob> will it make a linux partition out of my un allocated space?
[12:53] <Seveas> sweatybob, on reasonably modern hardware 30 minutes is normal, and yes it can use unallocated space
[12:53] <Jowi> sweatybob: you can choose that option, yes
[12:53] <Wilf> it took me an hour, on a P1 166 with 64mb of ram
[12:54] <ekimus> Seveas: i thought that was only for adding locales? if i uncheck them they are automagically removed?
[12:54] <Seveas> Wilf, that's fast, server install?
[12:54] <sweatybob> Seveas: 512mb RAM.  and put the cd in the tray
[12:56] <sweatybob> =/
[12:56] <ninnghizidha> hey, sweetbob .. wanna see screenshots of the installation-process?
[12:56] <Seveas> *g* is short for *grin*
[12:56] <sweatybob> ninnghizidha Ya.
[12:56] <DjKritical> lol
[12:56] <Hello_World> ll
[12:56] <sweatybob> give me big pointers of what NOT to push return. on.
[12:56] <ninnghizidha> just a second .. i'k looking for the URI.
[12:56] <Hello_World> the partition thingee
[12:56] <cas> sweatybob: ninnghizidha is right take some looks at the screenies
[12:56] <Seveas> Do NOT push return when it says 'do you want me to erase your disk'
[12:56] <sweatybob> it does say that tho.
[12:57] <Hello_World> not that clearly
[12:57] <Hello_World> iirc
[12:57] <sweatybob> http://imageheap.com/theheap/11928222.jpg
[12:57] <sweatybob> look. lol
[12:57] <Jowi> hahaha
[12:57] <sweatybob> Thats ubuntu desktop. lol
[12:58] <Hello_World> that is 0wnage
[12:58] <sweatybob> yup.
[12:58] <sweatybob> took me ages to install...
[12:58] <ninnghizidha> This is the Installer:
[12:58] <ninnghizidha> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=1
[12:58] <sweatybob> and then i got that
[12:58] <ninnghizidha> dont be afraid of it.
[12:58] <Seveas> wow, VPC really sucks :)
[12:58] <sweatybob> yea
[12:58] <sweatybob> ive done the install before
[12:58] <hardw1re> aggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh its a picture of windows!!!!!!!!!!
[12:58] <sweatybob> on my VPC
[12:58] <Seveas> hardw1re, relax :)
[12:59] <barney_> anyone using ISP internode in oz? need some help setting up apt mirrors in sources list
[12:59] <Hello_World> chill, chill
[12:59] <ninnghizidha> slide 10 could be interesting for you...
[12:59] <bimberi> phew, 106 slides!
[12:59] <ninnghizidha> .. it is about the formating-tools.
[12:59] <hardw1re> i will love the day when windows becomes obsolete... oh wait it has already :P
[12:59] <sweatybob> im trying ot find the friggin rite screenies
[12:59] <hardw1re> just a shame that linux is so complex to get things working on it :(
[01:00] <ninnghizidha> it is the blue one, with the grey window.
[01:00] <sweatybob> clem_yeats: screenshot 10. what should i select here?
[01:00] <DjKritical> hardw1re: yes thats true.. but not when you use APT-GET!
[01:00] <Hello_World> apt-get sucks
[01:00] <hardw1re> noooo
[01:00] <hardw1re> apt-get is only goood to an extent
[01:00] <sweatybob> but i dont know what partition will be listed as......
[01:00] <hardw1re> i've had to compile my own driver for my webcam
[01:01] <hardw1re> i've had to compile the cvs of aMSN for webcam support
[01:01] <cas> hardw1re: maybe you're right, but at least it is possible ;)
[01:01] <Hello_World> apt-get is good for linux-cracks-wannabe
[01:01] <Hello_World> normal people use synaptic or at least aptitude
[01:01] <hardw1re> lol
[01:01] <Hello_World> or kynaptic
[01:01] <hardw1re> thats apt-get with a gui :P
[01:01] <sweatybob> i dont know if i should use linux........... im scared.
[01:01] <DjKritical> well on my server apt-get is all I ever needed :P
[01:01] <Hello_World> i know, hardw1re
[01:02] <nerdy2> i tend to apt-get, and i'm normal :)
[01:02] <cas> sweatybob: you can only say that if you have tried it
[01:02] <srijith> I like rpm ;)
[01:02] <ninnghizidha> I was scared too, sweatybob
[01:02] <Hello_World> sweatybob: Linux won't bite u
[01:02] <Hello_World> (probably)
[01:02] <sweatybob> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=9 --------- see that one......
[01:02] <DjKritical> last time I tried rpm I got messed up with registration
[01:03] <cas> Hello_World: pinguins will
[01:03] <sweatybob> can't i.......... use partition magic.
[01:03] <ninnghizidha> ... if you know, HOW many GB the partition has, and no other partition has that size, it will be easy to identify.
[01:03] <Hello_World> they didd with L. T.
[01:03] <sweatybob> Well i've got a few gig of unallocated space im going to install ubuntu into.
[01:03] <hardw1re> good thing about linux, is if you create a seperate partition for home, and you screw up the linux os, its a doddle to reinstall and still have all your files :D
[01:03] <Hello_World> that's possible with Windows as well...
[01:03] <DjKritical> good idea
[01:03] <hardw1re> i used PM to resize my windows drives
[01:04] <ninnghizidha> i guess the installer will tell you about that space .. and i'm sure you can insert an linuxpartition into that space ...
[01:04] <sweatybob> hardw1re: yea i resized my C:\ so i can make a linux partition.
[01:04] <hardw1re> i got a 2GB swap, 2GB /boot, 15GB /, and a 30GB /home
[01:04] <ninnghizidha> partitioning took about 30 minutes at my first linux-installation .. it was frightening complex, but after 15 minutes i got it ...
[01:04] <bina> While trying to install wine, (apt-get install wine returns an error due to bad library versions) i get the error /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a is present on your system.   TSCHAKA.
[01:06] <Nermal> just sod off and leave us in peace
[01:06] <DjKritical> what is knoppix built on?
[01:06] <Nermal> go on
[01:06] <Hello_World> does anybody know there i can gat hoary packages for amaroK 1.3?
[01:06] <sweatybob> google?
[01:06] <bina> DhKritical: Debian i think
[01:06] <ninnghizidha> i did an amarok.1.3-package
[01:06] <hardw1re> no, i havent been using linux that long tbh, it didnt compile in the end, i tried to get a breezy kernel, but it needed certain packages and that screwed things up, so i ended up reinstalling ubuntu, then i went to the doctors this morning
[01:06] <bina> DJKritical* sorry
[01:07] <ninnghizidha> i guess so too .. debian.
[01:07] <Hello_World> where do i find it?
[01:07] <ninnghizidha> are you able to read german?
[01:07] <Hello_World> knoppix is definately debian-based
[01:07] <Hello_World> ja
[01:07] <cafueg1> knoppix has an english version of its web pages too.
[01:07] <hardw1re> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[01:08] <hardw1re> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:08] <ninnghizidha> Hello_World, http://www.ubuntuusers.de/viewtopic.php?t=9135
[01:08] <cafueg1> oh look at that, those lovely OSX .dfont files work *fine* in Xorg.
[01:09] <hardw1re> anyone know if it is safe to use the latest nvidia drivers off of the nvidia site instead of using the ones that are on the apt-get, cause they're rather out dated...
[01:09] <cafueg1> hardw1re: Are they outdated or do they not work?
[01:09] <pl_ice_> hi
[01:10] <hardw1re> the old ones work.... but they're outdated
[01:10] <cafueg1> so you want to fix something that's not broken...
[01:10] <Hello_World> hardw1re: i've tried. it didn't work
[01:10] <bina> cagueg1: they dont work on my comp :'(
[01:10] <bina> grrcant type today
[01:10] <cafueg1> bina: Different issue
[01:10] <bina> i think ill just stop :)
[01:11] <bina> hehe, oh :P
[01:11] <Hello_World> u know, i still use Forceware 44.03 on windows
[01:11] <hardw1re> the 7676 worked on mine... but i;ve been having issues with hl2 / css
[01:11] <Hello_World> an everything works fine
[01:11] <hardw1re> lol
[01:11] <hardw1re> what gfx card u got?
[01:11] <Hello_World> Ti 4200
[01:11] <hardw1re> yeah
[01:11] <hardw1re> you dont want the latest then
[01:11] <Hello_World> ??
[01:11] <hardw1re> dont go any higher than 44.xx tbh with a GeForce 4 card
[01:12] <ubuntu> bom dia !!!!
[01:12] <Hello_World> nvdia keeps telling me the latest drivers are the best 1s
[01:12] <cafueg1> !pt
[01:12] <ubotu> cafueg1: Are you on ritalin?
[01:12] <cafueg1> !br
[01:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[01:12] <bina> hardw1re: how do you check the version? maybe thats why mine isnt working
[01:12] <hardw1re> the latest drivers are mainly aimed towards the GeForce FX and Gefore 6/7xxx range
[01:12] <Hello_World> yeah
[01:12] <Hello_World> but they should at least *work*
[01:12] <hardw1re> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64]  (Uptime):[1:39]  (Load):[0.11]  (CPUCount):[1]  (Model):[AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+]  (Clock):[1872.190MHz]  (Cache):[512 KB]  (Bogomips):[3710.97]  (Mem):[342/1023M]  (Total Space):[506.4G]  (Processes):[81]
[01:12] <cafueg1> bina: dpkg -l nvidia-glx
[01:12] <Hello_World> and they don't
[01:12] <hardw1re> hmmm....
[01:13] <cafueg1> hardw1re: Do you need to do that?
[01:13] <Hello_World> they give me bluescreens
[01:13] <bina> cafueg1: thanks
[01:13] <hardw1re> (Graphics):[PCI device 10de:0045 (nVidia Corporation) (rev 161)]  (XFree86):[]  (Res):[1920x1200]  (Bits):[24]
[01:13] <hardw1re> doesnt give the details of my card...
[01:13] <bina> wow that was crazy
[01:13] <cafueg1> hardw1re: Can you please make your script not spam the channel?
[01:13] <hardw1re> spam?
[01:13] <hardw1re> you call 1 line of text spam?
[01:14] <cafueg1> hardw1re: I do if it's script generatyed irrelevant cruft, yes.
[01:14] <hardw1re> what country are you from?
[01:14] <Ng> hardw1re: those kinds of scripts annoy people on IRC because otherwise you end up with everyone doing them and "I am currently listening to: SomeRandomRubbish.mp3" scripts ;)
[01:14] <athlon> !id
[01:14] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, athlon
[01:14] <cafueg1> hardw1re: That makes it not only pam, but also againt channel rules.
[01:14] <Hello_World> hardw1re: if that's no spam, what is?
[01:15] <hardw1re> omg
[01:15] <athlon> !de
[01:15] <ubotu> from memory, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[01:15] <cafueg1> (Kenrel): [Cafuego 2.1]  (Penis): [15 foot]  ... etc
[01:15] <hardw1re> *this doesnt work on my system* why do you want to use it on yours... etc. etc etc, cause a) i have a 6800GT, and b) im on an AMD 64 (x86_64 system) as shown by the data that i pasted above!
[01:16] <cafueg1> hardw1re: So if you'd said "athlon64 with a GT6800" you'd have been concise.
[01:16] <dbee> Does anyone know how I can get my hands on a libc library that can be used to install j2re ????
[01:17] <cafueg1> anyway, I don't make the rules here, I'
[01:17] <cafueg1> m just letting you know
[01:17] <DjKritical> Okay I'm going to try install again... this time the cd was burnt at 4x speed... wish me luck :D
[01:18] <hardw1re> no, cause linux isnt like that windows is :P in linux u need to be more specific about the actual hardware and software of your pc :P
[01:18] <cafueg1> hardw1re: The amount of disk space, the amount of ram, the uptime, the size of your penis are all COMPLETELY irrelevant. a libc6 and/or xorg version MAY have helped, but I didn't see those.
[01:19] <hardw1re> oh go eat some pies or summit im busy updating
[01:19] <uthini> !windowsdrives
[01:19] <ubotu> from memory, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[01:19] <webtoe> hmmmm i looove pies
[01:19] <Kromonos> re
[01:19] <liable> wenas!
[01:19] <bimberi> dbee: there are issues with the jre in hoary-extras
[01:19] <cafueg1> Yes, pretend you don't know what I mena. That's so useful.
[01:20] <webtoe> bimberi: what issues?
[01:20] <bimberi> dbee: There are some better packages available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:20] <liable> wenas!
[01:20] <Kromonos> when I close the screen of my laptop an open it again, I just see a black screen
[01:20] <Ng> there are too many repositories ;(
[01:20] <bimberi> webtoe: libc6 dependency issues
[01:20] <Ng> I was hoping this wasn't going to end up like fedora, but it has ;)
[01:20] <Kromonos> same when I change to tty1 or so and then back to tty7
[01:20] <hardw1re> i have a degree in computer engineering, do you think i really wanna sit here while some nerd has ago about a little bit of text?
[01:21] <Ng> hardw1re: you could just respect the way it works and stop whinging? ;)
[01:21] <liable> oooh, a degree..
[01:21] <cafueg1> hardw1re: The issue is that you're needlessly spamming the channel with script output. This is against channel rules. Consider yourself informed.
[01:21] <hardw1re> omg... im not the one whinging, im just arguing a point about a bit of text
[01:21] <cafueg1> hardw1re: if you disagree, take it up with an op.
[01:22] <hardw1re> omg this isnt support this is bugger off with telling us your system hardware and yoru fricking problems
[01:22] <Kromonos> where is my problem
[01:22] <Kromonos> ?
[01:22] <cafueg1> if you'd rather do that, feel free too.
[01:22] <hardw1re> thats what i did
[01:22] <hardw1re> and you moaned
[01:22] <cafueg1> I meant the "bugger off" part.
[01:23] <webtoe> bimberi: You get an error with a programe? or it just not work full stop? thought I had tried it out and it was fine...... though not with anything complex
[01:23] <hardw1re> all i was trying to do was have a disccusion and get some adivce/support with the latest nvidia driver files for linux
[01:23] <hardw1re> and you poke your nose in
[01:23] <Hello_World> ninnghizidha: thx for the package, works fine
[01:23] <dbee> bimberi: thanks, I've checked it out, do you reckon I should download a new jre or a new libc ??
[01:23] <cafueg1> dbee: a new libc? What did you break? and how?
[01:24] <ninnghizidha> great tu hear.
[01:24] <ninnghizidha> (to)
[01:24] <bina> Kromonos: im no expert in laptops, so this could be miles off.  Could it be something to do with ur power management?  Dont laptops go into suspend when u put the screen donw?
[01:24] <bimberi> dbee: the jre
[01:24] <Seveas> cafueg1, braind-dead hoary-extras packages require a backport libgcc
[01:24] <bina> ah, but that wouldnt explain why it happens from tty1 and tty7 :)
[01:24] <Seveas> hardw1re: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[01:24] <cafueg1> Seveas: haha. That's why the Java wiki is point at the wrong page.
[01:25] <Kromonos> bina: :)
[01:25] <cafueg1> hardw1re:  I have you on ignore, please do the same to me.
[01:25] <dbee> cafuegl: it just says that my libc is the wrong version or outdated ... this is strange because I only downloaded the Ubuntu ISO yesterday
[01:25] <hardw1re> ,,/,,
[01:25] <cafueg1> dbee: The jre package is broken. Just a moment.
[01:25] <DjKritical-> lol
[01:25] <Seveas> dbee, the java .deb files from hoary-extras are broken
[01:25] <Seveas> grab a .deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:25] <DjKritical-> excellent rebuttle :D
[01:25] <bimberi> webtoe: to clarify, the issue is that the j2re on hoary-extras are broken (god i wish i could type faster :) )
[01:25] <dabaR> Seveas: :O you are illegal now?:)
[01:25] <cafueg1> or use "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions"
[01:26] <Seveas> dabaR, I've always been :)
[01:26] <cafueg1> You will guaranteed not have libc issues.
[01:26] <DjKritical-> Oh my god I didn't get an error this time when installing!!!
[01:26] <Wilf> wierd
[01:26] <dbee> Seveas: which .deb ??
[01:26] <DjKritical-> Seveas: seems like your advice worked :D
[01:26] <cafueg1> DjKritical-: Okay, insert CD and reboot again ;-)
[01:26] <dabaR> Seveas: you have eh? good. heh.
[01:26] <Wilf> why do EDO ram based systems never see how much RAM you put in?
[01:27] <Wilf> ie) i just put in 2 32mb sticks, the system oinly sees 16mb
[01:27] <Wilf> same with my P1
[01:27] <DjKritical-> cafueg1: will do ;)
[01:27] <cafueg1> Wilf: is the ram mayhap broken or incorrectly seated (or not EDO)?
[01:28] <bimberi> dbee: sun-j2re1.5 (or 1.4) up to you
[01:28] <Wilf> it's EDO for sure (i mean, c'mon :\)
[01:28] <cafueg1> Wilf: you'd be amazed...
[01:28] <Wilf> RAM borked?
[01:28] <Wilf> maybe
[01:28] <webtoe> Wilf: is it the BIOS that isn't seeing all the RAM? or linux?
[01:28] <Wilf> BIOS
[01:29] <cafueg1> linux sees it?
[01:29] <Wilf> on both my P1 166 and AMD K6-2
[01:29] <Wilf> no idea.
[01:29] <webtoe> Wilf: are they a pairs
[01:29] <Seveas> k6-2 with EDO?
[01:29] <cafueg1> Do K6-2 mobos even support edo ram?
[01:29] <Wilf> yep
[01:29] <Wilf> it's a wierd machine, on a really tiny form factor
[01:29] <shawarma> I have a problem during installation of a linux-image.. When it's trying to configure it, I get a bunch of "file descriptor x left open" followed by a "/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/evms/.nodes/sdb3: Cannot find LVM device","failed to create initrd image"  and lastly apt-get tells me that configuring linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 has failed... Has anyone seen this before?
[01:29] <Hello_World> k6=socket7=pentium1 socket
[01:30] <Hello_World> super-socket7 is compatible
[01:30] <leitao> is there any ubuntu for 64 bits machine?
[01:30] <Hello_World> yes
[01:30] <shawarma> leitao: AMD, you mean?
[01:30] <dbee> bimberi: So I can just download the new repsoitories from Seveas site then, and that should work ???
[01:30] <Wilf> my P1 is on a ATrend ATC1000 mobo which supports not only P1 + K6, but some cyrix cpu's as well.
[01:30] <leitao> shawarma : yes
[01:30] <cafueg1> leitao: Yesp, and it works fine , except for the java web plugin and flash.
[01:30] <shawarma> leitao: Sure there is.
[01:30] <derFlo> my firefox always hangs. Anyone experiences the same problems?
[01:31] <Hello_World> don't use firefox then
[01:31] <cafueg1> leitao: (If you REALLY want java and/or flash on the web, sue the i386 cd)
[01:31] <Hello_World> use IE
[01:31] <webtoe> derFlo: what ubuntu you using? Hoary? coz breezy one chokes on me sometimes
[01:31] <Hello_World> with wine
[01:31] <Hello_World> :D
[01:31] <lemonsforbreakfa> what? IE over Opera?
[01:31] <webtoe> i think it was meant to be a joke
[01:31] <bimberi> dbee: yes, you can replace the hoary-extras line in your sources.list with the one at the top of that page.  Or alternatively just download the .deb file and install it using dpkg
[01:31] <cafueg1> lemonsforbreakfa: yeah, opera doesn't run on Longhorn.
[01:31] <leitao> cafueg1: could i get this in the ubuntu site?
[01:32] <derFlo> webtoe: yes
[01:32] <Hello_World> webtoe: that's why breezy is called "beta"
[01:32] <Hello_World> -.-
[01:32] <Kromonos> Who else has a laptop?
[01:32] <dbee> Thanks bimberi
[01:32] <cafueg1> leitao: Yes, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[01:32] <DjKritical-> My install seems to be stuck on "Configuring Apt - Testing network repository"
[01:32] <webtoe> i know i know i'm not stupid...i want to use the development branch on my laptop
[01:32] <bimberi> dbee: not yet, wait till it works :)
[01:32] <leitao> cafueg1: ok
[01:32] <cafueg1> leitao: You want version 5.04
[01:32] <hardw1re> !nvidia
[01:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia
[01:33] <DjKritical-> oh no ;(
[01:33] <webtoe> derFlo: try starting firefox from a terminal and see what messages it spits out
[01:33] <cafueg1> webtoe: openoffice.org and mozilla-firefox seem to currently be broken on breezy here, gnome is missing its trash applet (completely) (again) and evolution crashes a lot.
[01:34] <DjKritical-> ahh it moved! false alarm!
[01:34] <webtoe> cafueg1: i know i tested it on my desktop and it was very mangled. But on my laptop its fine for some reason. Firefox wouldn't work for a while and the gnome-panel crashed but now it works fine
[01:34] <derFlo> webtoe: ok
[01:35] <derFlo> webtoe: it's not reproducable. sometime it hangs, sometimes not
[01:35] <webtoe> cafueg1: but it only appears to be on this laptop it works fine, my desktop machine just continually choked all the time
[01:35] <webtoe> derFlo: have you installed any plugins? or firefox extensions?
[01:36] <derFlo> florianq@flux:~$ firefox
[01:36] <derFlo> NP_Initialize
[01:36] <derFlo> New
[01:36] <derFlo> webtoe: only search plugins
[01:37] <derFlo> webtoe: but i have the same behaviour without any plugins
[01:37] <derFlo> webtoe: not so often, but it also hangs every once in a while
[01:37] <cafuego> derFlo: mv .mozilla/firefox ~/backup-foo; firefox
[01:37] <derFlo> cafuego: already did that
[01:38] <cafuego> still issues?
[01:38] <derFlo> yes
[01:38] <lemonsforbreakfa> still having install problems - cannot install a bootloader.  See http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59723 please.  Thank you.
[01:38] <derFlo> not so often, but also
[01:38] <derFlo> it doesn't crash. it hangs
[01:40] <derFlo> no updates available (apt-get update & apt-get upgrade)
[01:40] <derFlo> strange
[01:41] <derFlo> I could try to use mozilla....
[01:41] <Hello_World> mozilla is better anyway
[01:42] <derFlo> Hello_World: why do you think that?
[01:43] <Hello_World> no crippled sidebar
[01:43] <Hello_World> a proper options dialog
[01:43] <Hello_World> more mature
[01:44] <nerdy2> what option do you miss?
[01:44] <derFlo> but mozilla won't be supported in the future....
[01:44] <derFlo> I like the search-field
[01:44] <inc7> hi, first time usin ubantu, linux
[01:45] <pet>  ciao every body.. i have a problem maybe some one can halp me..
[01:45] <bimberi> hi inc7
[01:45] <inc7> i dont know how to run realplayer
[01:45] <inc7> hi
[01:45] <Hello_World> what option do you miss?  <--i don't want to hide the tabbar when only 1 tab is open
[01:45] <pet>  i m connected in a office with my laptop .. runs on ubuntu
[01:45] <wickedpuppy> inc7, have you installed it ?
[01:45] <Hmmmm> inc7, do u have real player installed?
[01:45] <Hello_World> and i generally miss any kind of logical structure in the ff dialogs
[01:46] <pet>  all the time i reboot the computer the connection in the office is kill
[01:46] <inc7> i installed using terminal, and instructions but now i cant run or have firefox recognize for a stream
[01:46] <pet> :(
[01:46] <uthini> cfdisk doesn't like my 80gb hd
[01:46] <pet> how comes ??
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> inc7, what you typed ??
[01:46] <uthini> i'm not too familiar with unix fdisk
[01:46] <uthini> !fdisk
[01:46] <ubotu> uthini: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> pet ... kill ??
[01:46] <inc7> to install, i installed in home folder
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> what you mean kill ?
[01:46] <pet> connection is off
[01:46] <pet> i have to restart the modem
[01:46] <Hmmmm> inc7, hit Alt+F2"
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> inc7, real player is not opensource ..you bought it ?
[01:46] <pet> how comes
[01:46] <pet> ?
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> pet, ... that might be your network problem ?
[01:47] <inc7> no, downloaded for website
[01:47] <pet> yes
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> oh free ? hmms ...
[01:47] <inc7> alt f2--  . then?
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> pet ... why not contact your network admin ?
[01:47] <pet> with the other computer it doesn t make this problem
[01:47] <pet> only when i reboot with ubuntu
[01:48] <inc7> not listed?
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> pet, your network is detected i hope ??
[01:48] <pet> it disturb the connection
[01:48] <pet> yes
[01:48] <pet> but after i reboot the modem
[01:48] <pet> i m able to connect
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> modem ?
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> how to reboot the modem ?
[01:48] <pet> i just put off and on
[01:48] <pet> after connection is good agein
[01:48] <pet> i connect with wifi
[01:49] <wickedpuppy> oh wifi lan cable modem ?
[01:49] <pet> yes
[01:49] <pet> german adsl modem
[01:49] <Hmmmm> then type "realplay"
[01:49] <pet> Sinus
[01:49] <wickedpuppy> hmms ... i use wireless card in ubuntu at school ... never got this prob
[01:49] <pet> modem
[01:50] <pet> me also
[01:50] <wickedpuppy> network usually goes up and down but never cut off
[01:50] <pet> maybe i configure host in my network admin
[01:50] <inc7> can not display location file//:relplay
[01:50] <inc7> can i double click icon suposed to run?
[01:50] <wickedpuppy> inc7, you are suppoed to run it in terminal ... not browse
[01:50] <pet> is it a problem in the host settings
[01:50] <pet> ?
[01:50] <Hmmmm> inc7, just hit enter
[01:51] <wickedpuppy> pet, its possible ... what about your ESSID ?
[01:51] <pet> it is ok
[01:51] <pet> crypted
[01:51] <pet> wep key
[01:51] <pet> this is ok
[01:51] <wickedpuppy> ah ... well no idea about that one ... mine seems to work fine ... sorry dude
[01:51] <pet> but when i restart my computer the other computer have no connection anny mor
[01:52] <wickedpuppy> ?
[01:52] <wickedpuppy> two computers ?
[01:52] <pet> yes
[01:52] <DjKritical-> I just installed ubuntu and xwindows got an error.. is this common?
[01:52] <twibbler> pet do you use dhcp or hard code ip ?.
[01:52] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, no
[01:52] <inc7> home/inc7/RealPlayer
[01:52] <pet> i tried both
[01:53] <inc7> thats where it is, i type that in and it opens the folder?
[01:53] <pet> does the connection depends on my laptop ?
[01:53] <Jowi> pet: sounds like your router's got a problem. Probably interference from other wireless things. Try to change the channel in the router.
[01:53] <kemik> inc7:  so maybe thats a folder and not an executable
[01:53] <pet> ?
[01:54] <pet> i have also windows on this laptop
[01:54] <pet> when i start in windows i don t have this problem
[01:54] <pet> i have the impression there is some thing wrong in my host settings
[01:54] <pet> in network admin
[01:54] <DjKritical-> whats the default root password for ubuntu?
[01:54] <pet> do i need a Hostname ?
[01:55] <icewt> DjKritical-, it's your user password
[01:55] <dePOLL> erm.. what is an "upstream Alioth package"?
[01:55] <DjKritical-> icewt: that didn't work for me
[01:55] <inc7> i added another /home/inc7/RealPlayer/realplayer   to get the exe but nothin?
[01:55] <pet> ?
[01:55] <twibbler> pet: if when connecting to wireless you losing internet connection to the other computer does sound like an ip conflict ....
[01:55] <pet> yes
[01:56] <Aquasky> DIE WILF DIE
[01:56] <DjKritical-> is there anything else the root password might be set to?
[01:56] <bimberi> DjKritical-: log in as yourself, then type "sudo -i" (with your user password) to get a root shell
[01:56] <inc7> should i have installed on root termonal?
[01:56] <Kromonos> hmpf
[01:56] <bimberi> DjKritical-: ubuntu installs with root disabled
[01:56] <twibbler> pet: is main computer win or linux
[01:56] <Kromonos> why ist network:/// in nautilus empty?
[01:56] <pet> main computer is windows
[01:56] <Hmmmm> inc7, how did u install realplayer?
[01:56] <pet> i m just new here
[01:57] <Kromonos> I had a samba network in my LAN
[01:57] <twibbler> ok well first ceck ip on main comp ... ipconfig in dos promt.
[01:57] <inc7> i opend terminal, put in commant to make file i downloaded executable, then put in another command to install
[01:57] <pet> it seems like ubuntu set him self as main computer
[01:57] <pet> how can i put this off
[01:57] <inc7> it asked me where to install, i said home, it installed i see the folder , files
[01:58] <Hmmmm> ok inc7 do this
[01:58] <DjKritical-> Okay I've encountered major problems with my basic install of ubuntu.. now I'm in a root console.. and when I do 'apt-get -f install' I get an error
[01:58] <Hmmmm> "sudo apt-get install realplayer"
[01:58] <uthini> !format
[01:58] <ubotu> uthini: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[01:58] <uthini> oh c
[01:58] <kemik> pet:  im not sure what you're talking about.. isit the Bootmenu that defaults on running ubuntu? if so, you'll need to edit grub menu.lst
[01:58] <uthini> guys wots the format command?
[01:58] <Jowi> Kromonos: default samba workgroup name is MSHOME.
[01:58] <Kromonos> Jowi: I had changed this in smb.conf
[01:59] <Kromonos> but nothing happens. network:/// is still empty
[01:59] <pet> yes default is running on ubuntu
[01:59] <derFlo> mozilla also crashed
[01:59] <inc7> i hope i can get this workin, i hate xp
[01:59] <kemik> uthini:  fdisk
[01:59] <DjKritical-> error processing... blah/blah/gnome-icon-theme... corrupted filesystem tarbell...
[01:59] <derFlo> only fyi
[01:59] <derFlo> bye
[02:00] <uthini> kemik, i don't see a format option, i've changed the partitions, but its still an ntfs drive
[02:00] <DjKritical-> corrupted package archive
[02:00] <Jowi> Kromonos: ah very good. it can take a while for it to catch up though. sometimes it takes up to 3-4 minutes over here.
[02:00] <kemik> Kromonos:  /etc/samba/smb.conf is a configurationfile for your samba-server (if you're running one) not the client
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, why you need -f ?? what are you installing ?
[02:00] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I got an error the first time I tried to load xwindows
[02:00] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I got into root and tried to do 'apt-get upgrade'
[02:00] <inc7> anyone know how i ues this program to connect to undernet
[02:01] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I got another error then it suggested 'apt-get -f install'
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> xwindows ?? after you install ubuntu you should get inside gnome
[02:01] <Kromonos> kemik: so far so good :) and where is the config file of the client?
[02:01] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: gnome didn't load
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, ... now then you got install problem
[02:01] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: it gave me an error... something like.... /usr/bin/X11 missing.. or something
[02:01] <XTC> inc7 anyone know how i ues this program to connect to undernet << xchat?
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> did you install cleanly ??
[02:01] <DjKritical-> well it looked like it did!
[02:01] <DjKritical-> I got almost to the end
[02:01] <inc7> what ya
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> XTC, inc7  ... ctrl+t
[02:01] <kemik> uthini:  oh. format =)
[02:02] <XTC> ??
[02:02] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: any suggestions? or do you suggest a reinstall?
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, what you mean almost ?
[02:02] <DjKritical-> well..
[02:02] <DjKritical-> at the end of the install
[02:02] <uthini> OMG!!!! no format command!!! whats going on here?
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> what was at the end of install ?
[02:02] <kemik> Kromonos:  you can mount the samba shares if you got "smbfs" installed using the mount command
[02:02] <DjKritical-> it moved me to some pakage installation program
[02:02] <DjKritical-> which I didn't know how to use
[02:02] <XTC> aaaaaaaaaaa.... menu: x-chat/server list....
[02:02] <DjKritical-> so I quit (which was accidental because I was trying to go back)
[02:02] <XTC> also works inc7
[02:02] <Kromonos> kemik: alright, but why is network:/// empty?
[02:03] <kemik> Kromonos:  or try browsing the network with Places-->Network Servers etc
[02:03] <Jowi> uthini: mkfs
[02:03] <uthini> kemik, when i tupe format is tjoons no such command?
[02:03] <uthini> mkay
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, something is wrong ...  did you let your com reboot after you installed the first stage ?
[02:03] <kemik> Kromonos:  could be any number of reasons.. most likely you've not configured your network correctly
[02:03] <Kromonos> kemik: Places --> Network Servers = network:///
[02:03] <christ_> lol
[02:03] <DjKritical-> before that package installation screen... I got a message... "Some of the packages something something something"... you will be able to fix this from the package selector coming up
[02:03] <kemik> uthini:  i didnt mena "format" as the command rather "oh, you were asking about formatting" sorry for the confusion =)
[02:04] <Kromonos> kemik: If my network isn't configured correctly I wouldn't be here ;)
[02:04] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: yeah.. it rebooted fine... everything was perfect up to the restart... then it started configuring packages upon rebooting
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> yup
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> correct
[02:04] <kemik> Kromonos:  setting up internet sharing isnt the same as using a samba network
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> then it will download ... and ask you if you want to install
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> you said yes ... and it will configure and does everything and get you into gnome
[02:04] <DjKritical-> yeah
[02:04] <Kromonos> kemik: When I use the IP Adress of my Samba server, I get a connection
[02:05] <DjKritical-> then it tried to load gnome
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> then ?
[02:05] <kemik> Kromonos:  try typing in smb://servername
[02:05] <DjKritical-> and got a fatal error with X11
[02:05] <uthini> kemik, what is the format command? i know it exists!! i have my partition info setup already
[02:05] <Stormx> what is samba?
[02:05] <kemik> Kromonos:  do you have the correct workgroups on both client and server? they usually have to "match"
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> so the install didn't finish DjKritical-  ?
[02:05] <kemik> !samba
[02:05] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:05] <DjKritical-> well no because if it had finished I'd be in gnome =(
[02:05] <DjKritical-> quick question
[02:05] <Kromonos> kemik: Workgroup is same in smb.conf
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> if the install didn't finish ... pls reinstall ... easiest ... if install is done and no X then we debug
[02:06] <DjKritical-> at the package selection screen
[02:06] <Kromonos> smb://servername <-- this is working
[02:06] <DjKritical-> if I select 'q'
[02:06] <Jel> anyone know how I can set the login path for a single user with ssh and/or pam?  SSH doesn't seem to execute my .bash_login or .bashrc
[02:06] <kemik> uthini:  i think you'd want to use "mkfs"
[02:06] <DjKritical-> and quit that package installer
[02:06] <DjKritical-> is that okay?
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> no
[02:06] <kemik> uthini:  or fill the partition with 0's usgin "dd"
[02:06] <DjKritical-> because I don't know what to do at that point
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> its safe to do yes DjKritical-
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> unless you like console ...
[02:06] <uthini> sigh kemik. does make fs read from the partition table?
[02:07] <uthini> cos i've run out of time
[02:07] <uthini> i need to start something that will run on its own
[02:07] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: what is the point of that console package installer?
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, say yes to whatever the installer ask ... its perfectly safe ... if not there be nobody here
[02:07] <kemik> Kromonos:  and there's no firewalls? (im not sure if samba announces it's presence on a different port than the one you'd connect on)
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, it install the packages such as gnome
[02:07] <DjKritical-> do I need to tell it to do that?
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> before you reboot it only install base packahe
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> no
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> you just say yes
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> instead of q
[02:08] <DjKritical-> ahh I see!
[02:08] <DjKritical-> lol
[02:08] <kemik> uthini:  mkfs  is  used  to  build  a  Linux  file system on a device, usually a hard disk partition.
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> keep saying yes yes yes yes
[02:08] <Kromonos> kemik: No, there is no firewall between server and clients, but a firewall between server and internet :P
[02:08] <DjKritical-> I was hoping it was user error and not hardware/software related!
[02:08] <DjKritical-> thanks wickedpuppy!
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> user error alright
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> np
[02:08] <uthini> kemik.... if i type sudo mkfs /dev/hdb1 will it read what i've put down on the partition table?
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> btw ...you never install windows too right ?
[02:08] <kemik> Kromonos:  ok.. is the client a ubuntu box and the server a windows or linux box ?
[02:08] <derreck> Jel, Try putting it in .bash_profile
[02:08] <inc7> how do u open that window to run programs again?
[02:09] <Jel> derreck: tried, no luck :(
[02:09] <inc7> i oressed alt f4 and it closed open windows
[02:09] <Kromonos> kemik: client is ubuntu and server is eisfair linux :)
[02:09] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: how do you mean?
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> oh nvm
[02:09] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I've gone through the windows installer so many times it's numbed my ability to think during install
[02:09] <kemik> uthini:  i'd go for "sudo -t filesystemtype<ntfs,vfat,ext3> /dev/hdb1"   and that would probably give you a partition with the FS you want...
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, ah lol ... so you keep pressing yes yes yes and ok ok ok ?
[02:10] <DjKritical-> haha yeah
[02:10] <DjKritical-> then when it asks me to make a choice I go "oh no!!! quit quit!"
[02:10] <kemik> eisfair? never heard of :)
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> well ... its same here ... :P ubuntu base is really small ...
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> so get all
[02:10] <Kromonos> http://www.eisfair.org
[02:11] <Kromonos> it's an easy to install linux inet server
[02:11] <Kromonos> :)
[02:11] <DjKritical-> It's only quarter past 12... there has to be enough time left to get this working! '_
[02:11] <DjKritical-> ;)
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, it takes an hour ... if the network is fast
[02:11] <nenduvel> ik heb een fat32 partitie op men pc maar hoe vind ik of het bv /hda1 of /hda2 of iets dergelijks is?
[02:11] <Stormx> english f00
[02:11] <kemik> Kromonos:  well.. im not sure what todo about your problem...
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> nenduvel, #ubuntu-de pls
[02:11] <DjKritical-> 1meg network
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> or #ubuntu.de ..
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> forgot which one
[02:12] <kemik> that was probably #ubuntu-nl
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> oh
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> nl ? lol
[02:12] <kemik> yes. dutch
[02:12] <eliyahu> got a quick question.
[02:12] <kemik> ;)
[02:12] <nenduvel> yes nl
[02:12] <nenduvel> :)
[02:12] <webtoe> ask away eliyahu
[02:12] <nenduvel> wrong window
[02:12] <nenduvel> sorry
[02:12] <Kromonos> hmpf
[02:12] <kemik> Kromonos:  but if all you got is linux OS's id go with NFS instead ;)
[02:12] <eliyahu> firefox has decided that its my default ftp program. I want it to go back to being nautilas.
[02:13] <Kromonos> kemik: I decited to use Samba because of my Windows Game PC
[02:13] <Kromonos> -t+d
[02:13] <kemik> mmh. im running both services... but i'm using linux 99% of the time ;)
[02:13] <Kromonos> ahh
[02:13] <Kromonos> I found it
[02:14] <kemik> isit browsable from windows ?
[02:14] <kemik> ok? what was it ?
[02:14] <Kromonos> I've restartet samba service on server
[02:14] <Kromonos> and now, it's shown in network:///
[02:14] <Kromonos> *gg*
[02:14] <kemik> you didnt restart after editing the .conf? ;)
[02:14] <nenduvel> i have a fat32 partition on my pc how can i mount it?
[02:14] <phreakys> hi
[02:14] <kemik> !ntfs
[02:14] <phreakys> how can i uninstall a package, installed with make install ?
[02:14] <Kromonos> kemik: The server is running until one week
[02:14] <kemik> the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions
[02:14] <milestone> hi all
[02:14] <eliyahu> can anyone tell me how to make nautalis my default ftp client?
[02:15] <kemik> nenduvel:  read that link
[02:15] <Kromonos> I just installed ubuntu today
[02:15] <nenduvel> i use win 2000
[02:15] <kemik> nenduvel:  or doit the hard way and learn the mountcommand "man mount" ;)
[02:15] <kemik> nenduvel:  read it all
[02:15] <gorilla> phreakys, you can't... the best you can do is to rea the Makefile for where it installed the program and other files.
[02:15] <nenduvel> ok