[03:57] <MTeck> I need to do a project for my university. My first thought was making dd have a hasning function so you could say dd if=/from of=/to hash=in ; then it would hash the file as it's being read so the file is only read from disk once. Apprently dd can do the same thing. So... You guys have any ideas for how my group could help LP? We do need a clear goal to accomplish.
[04:00] <jml> umm
[04:00] <jml> MTeck, you want to contribute patches to LP?
[04:00] <jml> MTeck, how much time does your group have? :)
[04:00] <MTeck> jml: You think somehow we could develop a clear goal? Is there any feature that you guys want added that we could do
[04:00] <MTeck> ~5mo
[04:01] <jml> MTeck, we could definitely come up with something.
[04:02] <MTeck> :)
[04:02] <jml> MTeck, is there anything on LP that interests you in particular?
[04:02] <MTeck> branches - loggerhead - bugs - teams
[04:02] <jml> MTeck, cool.
[04:02] <MTeck> I think those are my favorite part :P
[04:03] <MTeck> I did like the tabs better for the UI - but I can see where removing images is a good idea
[04:03]  * jml nods
[04:04] <jml> MTeck, I'm definitely sure that we can find something in one of those that would be suitable
[04:04] <MTeck> Was it a bandwidth decision?
[04:04] <jml> MTeck, also, what TZ are you guys in?
[04:04] <MTeck> -6
[04:04] <jml> MTeck, It was partly a bandwidth decision, and partly a communication-of-structure thing
[04:05] <jml> MTeck, I'll chat to a couple of the team leads & get back to you.
[04:05] <MTeck> :)
[04:26] <jml> logging out to test a gnome thing
[04:27] <jml> brb
[05:10] <jml> time to repeat the ipod experiment
[05:10] <jml> back soon.
[06:07] <jml> how do I get the exit code of the last command?
[06:11] <MTeck> All I know about getting an exist status is either an error message handler, %d, or echo $?
[06:19] <wgrant> jml: $? is the shell variable, as MTeck suggested.
[06:22] <jml> thanks.
[06:22]  * jml is giving up on Banshee, and trying gtkpod for syncing
[06:22]  * wgrant gave up on Banshee when he couldn't work out how to use its DAAP plugin and Launchpad at the same time.
[06:23] <wgrant> jml: LH wants to be kicked very much.
[06:23] <jml> I can't really do anything about it, I'm afraid.
[06:23] <wgrant> Damn.
[06:24]  * MTeck uses totem when he really needs audio/video - but much of the sound type
[06:26] <jml> I guess I should use gstreamer to convert all my flacs to mp3s and then try gtkpod again
[06:26] <jml> transcoding is not its strength
[06:27] <jml> I wish banshee didn't rely so much on HAL, dammit.
[06:33] <jml> and now I can't even figure out gstreamer
[06:33]  * jml takes a break
[06:49] <MTeck> This is how I like to start coding (same as when I started usling Linux) - http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6990/arcticfoxhunting.gif
[06:55] <jml> heh
[06:57] <MTeck> jml: head first :D
[07:12] <wgrant> jml: What's broken with HAL?
[07:20] <jml> wgrant, podsleuth uses HAL to find iPods. There's some crazy interaction between it and gnome's auto mounting stuff.
[07:23] <wgrant> jml: Possibly related to the HALectomy? Or was this a problem pre-Karmic as well?
[07:23] <jml> wgrant, HALectomy, I think. Haven't tested pre-Karmic, it's a new ipod
[07:24] <jml> wgrant, F11 users are reporting the same thing
[07:24] <jml> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586508
[07:25] <wgrant> jml: Yeah, that looks like it.
[07:25] <wgrant> Nautilus has used DeviceKit-disks for some time now.
[07:28] <jml> I don't really know what to do about it, other than change banshee / podsleuth to use DeviceKit / udev / whatever
[07:50] <lifeless> ooh look people
[07:51] <jml> lifeless, what?
[07:52] <jml> lifeless, btw, tribunal is now in 2a & works with testtools.
[07:53] <wgrant> Is 2a stable now?
[07:57] <lifeless> jml: cool
[07:57] <lifeless> jml: subunitification?
[07:58] <jml> lifeless, writing an email about that now :)
[07:58] <lifeless> wgrant: its been supported since 1.16
[07:58] <lifeless> I'm trying to decide how best to plugin in a SubunitLogObserver to arbitrary buidl steps in buildbot
[07:58] <wgrant> lifeless: But it had some big issues back then. Are they all gone now?
[07:59] <lifeless> wgrant: 2.0rc2 should have no operational issues using it
[07:59] <wgrant> lifeless: OK, thanks.
[07:59] <jml> lifeless, .... and sent
[08:14] <lifeless> jml: [replied]
[08:48] <jml> make build is broken in stable :(
[08:58] <jml> oh wait, that's just karmic
[08:58] <wgrant> jml: There are also test failures on stable.
[08:58] <jml> wgrant, test failures?
[08:58] <wgrant> jml: yeah, one test is failing without counting towards the failure counts, so the suite passes.
[08:59] <jml> wgrant, sheesh.
[08:59] <wgrant> jml: 'make build' works fine here on karmic/2.4. What's wrong with yours?
[09:00] <jml> wgrant, I'll try again & paste.
[09:00] <jml> it fails on wadllib generation
[09:03] <jml> http://paste.ubuntu.com/265972/
[09:03] <wgrant> jml: WFM :(
[09:04] <jml> wgrant, up to date with download-cache?
[09:04] <wgrant> Wow.
[09:04] <wgrant> That's impressive.
[09:04] <wgrant> jml: No.
[09:04]  * wgrant updates
[09:05] <wgrant> I probably should get onto those remaining formatting-related 2.5 failures at some point.
[09:06] <jml> I was going to fix ec2test on karmic, but...
[09:07] <wgrant> It needs make build?
[09:07] <jml> hmm, I guess it doesn't.
[09:07] <jml> but 'make build' is pretty essential to almost everything else
[09:08] <wgrant> It works for me with up-to-date devel and download-cache.
[09:08] <jml> I'll give it a try with devel
[09:09]  * jml runs branch-flow
[09:09] <wgrant> branch-flow?
[09:12] <jml> wgrant, it's a utility I wrote that lives in utilities/.
[09:12] <jml> wgrant, give it a burl :)
[09:13] <lifeless> I always forget how ugly unittest.py is
[09:13] <lifeless>         self.testsRun = self.testsRun + 1
[09:13] <lifeless> _why_
[09:14] <jml> lifeless, it predates +=, iirc.
[09:14] <lifeless> all the same
[09:14] <lifeless> its had lots of time to be cared for
[09:15] <wgrant> jml: Ah, that's very nice.
[09:15] <jml> wgrant, thanks.
[09:15] <jml> it's not so nice that we have 26 untested revisions in devel.
[09:16] <wgrant> jml: No. But I guess that'll be fixed in less than 24 hours.
[09:16]  * jml hopes so.
[09:17] <wgrant> But is make build still broken?
[09:17] <jml> yeah.
[09:17] <jml> I think it's a python-xml thing.
[09:18] <jml> I recall someone saying something about xmlplus at some point.
[09:18]  * jml uses a proprietary web service to find out where.
[09:18] <wgrant> Remove python-xml?
[09:18] <wgrant> It's not needed.
[09:19] <jml> I'll try that.
[09:19] <jml> wgrant, what's the test that's failing but not failing the suite?
[09:20] <wgrant> jml: lp.buildmaster.tests.test_manager.TestBuilddManagerScan.testScanRescuesJobFromBrokenBuilder
[09:21] <wgrant> jml: It fortunately shows up in ec2test success emails, so I know it's *only* that one.
[09:22] <jml> removing python-xml does the trick
[09:22] <wgrant> jml: It started failed in r9267 due to sampledata changes (bug #424797)
[09:22] <mup> Bug #424797: lp.buildmaster.tests.test_manager.TestBuilddManagerScan.testScanRescuesJobFromBrokenBuilder failing silently <soyuz-build> <spurious-test-failure> <Soyuz:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/424797>
[09:22] <wgrant> Hmmmm.
[09:23] <wgrant> That's odd.
[09:23] <jml> oh good, there _is_ a bug.
[09:23] <jml> that's something
[09:25] <wgrant> I considered filing a -foundations bug about the lack of detection of the failure. Should I?
[09:35] <lifeless> yes
[09:35] <lifeless> if something is wrong, file a bug :)
[09:42] <jml> wgrant, build-infrastructure tag please
[09:43] <jml> hey look, it's a trial test case
[09:43] <jml> I know this!
[09:45] <wgrant> lifeless: Well, it might have just been a bug in the test.
[09:45] <wgrant> It is a subclass of something I've not seen before.
[09:46] <lifeless> wgrant: eitherway, is it not a bug ?
[09:46] <wgrant> lifeless: Yes, but there's already a bug about the test being broken.
[09:46] <lifeless> oh
[09:46] <lifeless> I'd file one about the detection
[09:46] <lifeless> if its a false positive bug, no harm done
[09:46] <wgrant> Thanks.
[09:47] <lifeless> jml: # tests: current=51, target=53.0
[09:47] <lifeless> jml: from buildbot
[09:47] <jml> lifeless, ECONTEXT
[09:48] <lifeless> jml: subunit to buildbot progress
[09:49] <wgrant> Bug #425113
[09:49] <mup> Bug #425113: Some tests can fail without detection <build-infrastructure> <Launchpad Foundations:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/425113>
[09:49] <lifeless> jml: "I have a patch to make buildbot show test progress if there is subunit in the output."
[09:49] <jml> lifeless, ahh, awesome.
[09:50] <wgrant> Very nice.
[09:57] <jml> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[09:57] <lifeless> Its so helpful that 'git diff' does not show what you will commit.

[09:57] <wgrant> lifeless: Is there a way to work around that?
[09:57] <lifeless> git add .; git diff --cached
[09:57] <wgrant> Ah.
[09:57] <lifeless> or use bzr-git and 'bzr diff'
[09:57] <wgrant> Hahah.
[09:58] <wgrant> That always hits me when I use git, but that's rare enough that I can never be bothered to look it up.
[09:58] <lifeless> I had done a git add
[09:58] <lifeless> so when git diff showed me nothing I was ... puzzled
[10:00] <jml> ok
[10:00] <jml> so what's happening is that our newer zope is demanding even more things from the traceback object than it used to
[10:01] <jml> trial, in this case, is converting a twisted Failure object into an exc_info-alike tuple
[10:01] <wgrant> jml: Is this related to there not being any output?
[10:01] <jml> wgrant, yes.
[10:02] <jml> wgrant, zope.testing is raising an AttributeError that somehow gets swallowed.
[10:02] <lifeless> \o/
[10:02] <wgrant> jml: Yay.
[10:02] <lifeless> and failing open, lovely.
[10:03] <wgrant> The best kind.
[10:03] <jml> AttributeError: "'_Frame' object has no attribute 'f_locals'"
[10:03] <wgrant> What's eating that?
[10:03] <jml> not sure yet.
[10:05] <lifeless> heh there isn't a BuildBot dev.lp.net wiki page
[10:05] <jml> wgrant, probably something in trial.
[10:05] <jml> lifeless, Trunk/Glue gets close
[10:05] <lifeless> where is the buildbot status page?
[10:05] <wgrant> jml: Ah, good.
[10:05] <wgrant> lpbuildbot.c.c?
[10:06] <jml> lifeless, https://lpbuildbot.canonical.com/
[10:08] <lifeless> hmm, we already have test counts. \o/
[10:09] <lifeless> jml: was my tribunal feedback useful ?
[10:09] <jml> lifeless, yes, thanks.
[10:09] <jml> lifeless, I'm having attention problems today, sadly.
[10:10] <lifeless> fair enough
[10:10] <lifeless> I had my allergy shot today
[10:10] <lifeless> so I'm lethargic, sore, and hard of focus
[10:10] <jml> untangling why trial is swallowing this error is going to be a challenge
[10:10] <jml> and I don't think I care enough
[10:11] <lifeless> is it trial swallowing it?
[10:14] <jml> yeah.
[10:16] <jml> http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/4003
[10:16] <lifeless> hmm
[10:16] <lifeless> SubunitTrialReporterTime
[10:17] <lifeless> lp:twisted ?
[10:17] <jml> lifeless, see the #twisted topic
[10:17] <lifeless> thanks
[10:17] <jml> (I think it's lp:twisted, but I can't remember)
[10:17] <lifeless> yes
[10:22] <jml> I've linked the Twisted bug & made a comment about the whole thing.
[10:26] <lifeless> just quickly
[10:27] <lifeless> is there anything in the ReporterProtocol that I should know about?
[10:28]  * jml thinks
[10:28] <jml> it does todos & skips differently from what you might expect
[10:28] <jml> addError being called more than once per test is expected
[10:29] <jml> instead of exc_info tuples, it expects t.p.failure.Failure objects
[10:29] <jml> PyUnitTestResultAdapter should be a fairly good read in this respect.
[10:31] <jml> oh, and the constructor is part of the contract, iirc.
[10:31] <jml> sorry about tha.
[10:31] <jml> t
[10:31] <lifeless> class TestResult(pyunit.TestResult, object):
[10:31] <lifeless>     def __init__(self):
[10:32] <lifeless> doesn't seem that onerous?
[10:32] <jml>     def __init__(self, stream=sys.stdout, tbformat='default', realtime=False):
[10:32] <lifeless> oh
[10:32] <jml> class Reporter(TestResult):
[10:32] <lifeless> so this is a lie:
[10:32] <lifeless>     implements(itrial.IReporter)
[10:33] <jml> *sigh*
[10:33] <jml> yes
[10:33] <jml> I tried fixing that ages ago, and got blocked on something stupid
[10:34] <lifeless> _observeWarnings seems to be on totally the wrong class, to me.
[10:35] <lifeless> anyhow, lets see if this work
[10:35] <lifeless> s
[10:36] <lifeless> ok
[10:36] <lifeless> what tests would you like? :)
[10:37] <lifeless> jml: ^
[10:37] <jml> uhhh
[10:38] <lifeless> http://paste.ubuntu.com/266006/
[10:39] <jml> lifeless, we really do aim for total coverage.
[10:39] <lifeless> so, putting aside how to test the missing import block
[10:39] <lifeless> which is thorny
[10:40] <jml> lifeless, fwiw, there's a typo in the missing import block
[10:40] <jml> 'Exceptioin'
[10:40] <lifeless> do you have an interface conformance suite for reporters?
[10:40] <jml> lifeless, sadly no.
[10:40] <jml> there might be a test for the trial script
[10:40] <lifeless> thanks for the typo note
[10:41] <jml> to see which reporters are shown in the help
[10:41] <jml> ... apparently not.
[10:41] <lifeless> twisted.trial tests pass for me
[10:41] <lifeless> (using --reporter=subunit too :P)
[10:42] <jml> lifeless, I can't think of any appropriate tests.
[10:42] <lifeless> ok
[10:42] <lifeless> I'll write something plausible
[10:42] <lifeless> but it works!
[10:43] <jml> lifeless, cool.
[10:43] <lifeless> http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/4004
[10:44] <jml> yeah, I saw :)
[10:44] <jml> thanks
[10:44] <jml> there'll need to be some formatting tweaks too, but nothing that major.
[10:46] <lifeless> there may be some friction
[10:46] <lifeless> I don't know that trial is capable of downgrading properly to stock TestResult's
[10:47] <lifeless> e.g. UnexpectedSuccess may go boom
[10:48] <lifeless> jml: what is the reason that the result object hooks into log observing?
[10:49] <jml> lifeless, kind of historical reasons
[10:49] <jml> lifeless, log.err() calls in tests should fail tests
[10:50] <lifeless> jml: sure; shouldn't each test hook in though?
[10:50] <jml> particularly because that's how Twisted reports unhandled errors in deferreds
[10:50] <jml> lifeless, I guess...
[10:50] <jml> hmm
[10:50] <jml> I wonder...
[10:50] <lifeless> jml: so, I'm not saying 'hooking into log is odd', I'm saying 'Reporter hooking into log ...'
[10:51] <jml> lifeless, it's been added since I last touched the code.
[10:52] <jml> lifeless, so, I don't know the reason.
[10:54] <jml> lifeless, http://paste.ubuntu.com/266016/
[10:55] <lifeless> yes, that sounds nice.
[10:55] <lifeless> I don't see that being at all incompatible with my question :)
[10:55] <lifeless> its a separation of concerns issue, is all.
[10:56] <lifeless> my reporter won't do this, because its totally outside the responsibilities of a reporter..
[10:56] <lifeless> unless I multiple inherit
[10:56] <lifeless> and I'm not sure what would happen if I do that :(
[10:56]  * lifeless shruggifies
[10:57] <lifeless> ooo, EINTR.
[10:58] <lifeless> hmm, I suspect subunit doesn't loop no EINTR at the moment
[10:58] <lifeless> jml: how important is this^ ?
[10:59] <jml> lifeless, it's important.
[10:59]  * lifeless files a subunit bug
[11:00] <jml> lifeless, as for the location of responsibility, well, I haven't paged any of that code in, but what you say makes sense
[11:01] <jml> fwiw, it looks like the only change needed to make ec2test work in karmic is to remove the version checking for boto :)
[11:02] <wgrant> jml: That's what I suspected, but best to be safe.
[11:04] <lifeless> jml: interestingly, I see this:
[11:04] <lifeless> Ran 535 tests in 3.165s
[11:04] <lifeless> PASSED (expectedFailures=1, successes=534)
[11:04] <lifeless> Total tests:     516
[11:04] <lifeless> Passed tests:    515
[11:04] <lifeless> Failed tests:      1
[11:04] <jml> lifeless, that is interesting.
[11:04] <lifeless> 18 missing tests :)
[11:05] <lifeless> -or-
[11:05] <lifeless> 18 overreported tests
[11:11] <lifeless> jml: further thoughts
[11:11] <lifeless> jml: PyUnitResultAdapter would in some ways be better
[11:11] <lifeless> for subunit; as subunit wants to be a real boy.
[11:11] <lifeless> but 4005
[11:12] <lifeless> its kindof late for yak shaving though
[11:16] <jml> lifeless, yeah.
[11:24] <lifeless> urgle
[11:24] <lifeless> addExpectedFailure is sadly different to python 2.7
[11:25] <jml> yeah, I kind of wish they at least investigated prior art before standardising
[11:25] <lifeless> hell no
[11:26] <lifeless> heresy!
[11:27] <lifeless> http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/attachment/ticket/4004/subunit.patch
[11:27] <lifeless> now what?
[11:28] <jml> lifeless, you want to land it?
[11:28] <lifeless> its ~ done
[11:28] <lifeless> uhm, I think I need to add Failure support
[11:28] <lifeless> which I'm about to do. then its done
[11:29] <jml> yep
[11:29] <lifeless> It may handle Failures already
[11:29] <lifeless> as it just stringifies stuff it doesn't recognise
[11:29] <jml> lifeless, you probably want to read over http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/browser/trunk/doc/core/development/policy/coding-standard.xhtml?format=raw
[11:29] <lifeless> hmm, needs to be improved there
[11:31] <lifeless> jml: thats a longish document
[11:31] <lifeless> jml: what do I have wrong?
[11:31] <jml> docstrings are """\nFoo.\n"""
[11:31] <lifeless> shudder
[11:32] <jml> "All unit test methods should have docstrings specifying at a high level the intent of the test."
[11:32] <jml> two blank lines between methods
[11:32] <jml> three blank lines between classes
[11:33] <lifeless> I have to presume there are good reasons for this
[11:33] <jml> lifeless, there aren't.
[11:36] <jml> when it's ready to land, please add the tag 'review' and assign it to me.
[11:36] <jml> I'll review it (and if appropriate, land it) tomorrow,
[11:37] <jml> I'm going to step away from the computer for the evening.
[11:37] <lifeless> ok
[11:37] <lifeless> thanks
[11:38] <jml> np
[11:44] <lifeless> are you jml in matrix?
[11:45] <lifeless> jml: enjoy, its in your paddywhack :)
[18:28] <MTeck> jono: the whole irc thing is getting to me. I'm on the verge of not coming back for a year or to or ever - just in case I go off the deep end...
[18:29] <MTeck> hrm... wrong channel
[18:29] <MTeck> jml: I am excited to work on that project though
[21:11] <mwhudson> good morning
[21:11] <lifeless> hai
[21:54] <thumper> morning
[22:13] <thumper> mwhudson: call?
[22:22] <mwhudson> thumper: yes
[23:32] <thumper> mwhudson: how different is Launchpad's bzr-git from trunk bzr-git?
[23:32] <mwhudson> thumper: not very, i thought
[23:33] <mwhudson> thumper: easy to check cd ~/mumble/sourcecode/bzr-git; bzr missing lp:bzr-git
[23:37] <thumper> mwhudson: we are using bzr-git out of sourcecode still?
[23:37] <mwhudson> thumper: yes, aiui bzr doesn't work with plugins in eggs
[23:38] <mwhudson> thumper: but admittedly i haven't really looked into the issue yet
[23:38] <thumper> ok
[23:38]  * thumper checks missing
[23:47] <lifeless> eggs are evil
[23:47] <lifeless> and no, we don't
[23:50] <wgrant> lifeless: However, LP moving to eggs should make it easier to move to real packages later.
[23:51] <lifeless> wgrant: uhm, that seems totally orthogonal
[23:51] <lifeless> wgrant: just moving straight to real packages would be less likely to run into egg specific issues
[23:52] <wgrant> lifeless: Not quite. It provides a greater incentive to use unhacked versions of the dependencies.
[23:52] <lifeless> wgrant: which moving to real packages would do to
[23:52] <wgrant> lifeless: Right, but I suspect it's easier to move to real packages from eggs than from sourcecode/.
[23:52] <lifeless> wgrant: I have no reason to think that that is the case
[23:53] <wgrant> OK.
[23:53] <lifeless> eggs are a poor proxy for real packages
[23:53] <wgrant> Certainly.


[12:11] <MacSlow> Greetings everyone!
[12:32] <MacSlow> mneptok, hey Kurt!
[13:11] <MacSlow> Anybody who fancies slick VTs, please help me test my output-rotation patch to kmscon (see https://blog.macslow.org/?p=365 for documenation and links to code and .debs). Thanks in advance!
[13:17] <MacSlow> hey seb128 :)
[13:18] <seb128> MacSlow, hey, it has a been a while! how are you doing?
[13:18] <MacSlow> seb128, a while indeed :)
[13:19] <MacSlow> seb128, living the consultant/contractor live... but felt the urge to - at least - partially do OpenSource tinkering
[13:19] <seb128> :)
[13:19] <MacSlow> seb128, see  https://blog.macslow.org/?p=365 .. but don't judge my packaging skill please :)
[13:21] <MacSlow> seb128, could you point me towards folks from the community who are into this type of patch/VT/consule stuff? I need some folks willing to try it out.
[13:24] <seb128> MacSlow, sorry but I've no idea about who would be interested, others on this channel might though :)
[13:32] <MacSlow> ok... keeying my fingers crossed someone stumbles over it
[14:03] <waveform> MacSlow, oooh -- I'll take a look (I use kmscon as my daily driver on my development pi)
[14:04] <MacSlow> waveform, thanks... I admit I was too lazy (sofar :) to dust of my raspi3 and compile test it there
[14:04] <MacSlow> waveform, just poke me here or via github-issue or email should you run into questions.
[14:05] <waveform> (been maintaining a rather rough PPA of it for personal use -- https://launchpad.net/~waveform/+archive/ubuntu/kmscon -- for quite a few releases now!)
[14:05] <waveform> (but switched to the archive version once it appeared)
[14:06] <MacSlow> waveform, yeah... chasing all the scattered sinks  for it was difficult... its upstream is dormant for about 8-9 years.
[14:06] <waveform> indeed -- which is a tragedy because it's a stunningly good console
[14:07] <MacSlow> 1+
[14:07] <MacSlow> it is
[14:07] <MacSlow> waveform, I also made some short clips showing off the purpose of my patch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybjmUFIXfUU&list=PLXvTBWcnTI1OHF7-Op-ASYsQKKg1TYb5Z&ab_channel=coleraby
[14:08] <MacSlow> aside from that... haveing a 120Hz refresh-capable system-console is just cool :)
[14:08] <MacSlow> that and TrueType-fonts :)
[14:09] <waveform> bizarrely, one of the edge cases it solved for me was key-repeat rate on the console. There was a hack to deal with this but it was PC specific; there was no way to set the key-repeat delay/rate on the Linux console on the Pi. But kmscon can just use the xkb settings :)
[14:09] <MacSlow> I still need to get to the crazier OpenGL-shenanigans I have in mind for kmscon... but those will only be for fun... no real use-case for upstream-consideration.
[17:40] <ahasenack> bryceh: hey, I wanted to ask you. I used lp-test-ppa to generate dep8 triggers for my ppa: "lp-test-ppa -l -r lunar ppa:ahasenack/rsyslog-apparmor-dep8"
[17:41] <ahasenack> the generated url is correct: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&package=rsyslog&ppa=ahasenack/rsyslog-apparmor-dep8&arch=amd64&&trigger=rsyslog/8.2210.0-3ubuntu2~ppa8
[17:41] <ahasenack> but this package in the archive does not have a dep8 test
[17:41] <ahasenack> and the server-side infra answers with "You submitted an invalid request: Package rsyslog does not have any test results"
[17:41] <ahasenack> but the package in the ppa does have dep8 tests, I'm adding them
[17:42] <ahasenack> I think we talked about this a while ago, but maybe now you have some idea about this?
[17:42] <ahasenack> or where I should file a bug (if I haven't, I really don't remember the details)
[20:05] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Since you made the change to libtbb2-dev as a build-dep in blender, I could use your opinion on bug 2003239. AFAIAC, it looks like a merge not a sync.
[20:05] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Bug 2003239 in blender (Ubuntu) "Sync blender 3.4.1+dfsg-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2003239
[20:09] <ginggs> Eickmeyer: libtbb2-dev is actually the old tbb and depends on libtbb2
[20:09] <ginggs> libtbb-dev is the new "onetbb" and depends on libtbb12
[20:09] <Eickmeyer> ginggs: Confusing, and I seem to vaguely remember that.
[20:10] <ginggs> so that's good for a sync
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> ginggs: Sounds good. I'll go ahead and comment and do the sync.
[20:10] <ginggs> Eickmeyer: thanks
[20:16] <Eickmeyer> ginggs: No, thank you. I do vaguely remember that fiasco back in August, so it was nice to have the reminder.


[10:59] <mvo> hey, if someone could do a (really quick, I promise) SRU verification for #905413, that would be awsome
[10:59] <mvo> than we can make it available before the holiday break
[10:59] <mvo> maybe brendand :) ?
[11:01] <brendand> bug 905413?
[11:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 905413 in app-install-data-partner (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 4 other projects) "SRU for vmware-view (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/905413
[11:03] <brendand> mvo - it's already verified for oneiric right?
[11:05] <mvo> brendand: yes, just lucid, maverick, natty (well, "just" :)
[11:05] <mvo> but still, should be simple and striaghtfoward
[13:41] <brendand> mvo - i guess you got the verification done?
[13:42] <brendand> mvo - unfortunately the package didn't get published until during my lunch so i just got a chance to check now
[13:45] <mvo> brendand: yeah, no worries, its all done now
[13:45] <brendand> mvo - any time


[21:59] <fehlersturm> luck (the modules for the sc are beeing loaded. so... any ideas what else i should look at?? P.S. i also used different cables/headphones
[21:59] <fehlersturm> this is my systems exact hardware: http://zeug.gerade.org/hardware.htm
[21:59] <yoritomo> Stargaze thanks, does anyone has another idea about it ? How to find the firmware on my install cd ? i checked the .bin and .usb but could not find
[21:59] <AbuMaia> is it safe to remove all -dev packages from Synaptic?
[22:00] <Nitsuga> AbuMaia, not really.
[22:00] <Sa[i]nT> Anyway to have video backgrounds in Ubuntu like the DreamScene thing?
[22:01] <AbuMaia> I don't do any programming, and I rarely build from source
[22:01] <Stargaze> AbuMaia, no, you need some for compiling programs
[22:01] <njbair> what is apparmor complain mode?
[22:02]  * Stargaze off se you laterzzzzzzzz
[22:02] <Snadder> Anyone Have tried to set up an ubuntu cloud server?
[22:02] <Snadder> Or know an howto for doing that?
[22:02] <AbuMaia> I just did a build from source, and I was advised to add 3 -dev packages... one of those listed about another 10 -devs.  when I remove the ones I was initially told about, the extras aren't also removed
[22:02] <AbuMaia> how do I get at them?
[22:03] <Purpley1> Hey how do i recover things from a partition i resized? I lost half of  my datta for some reason
[22:03] <VCoolio> AbuMaia: apt-get autoremove
[22:03] <AbuMaia> it didn't remove anything VCoolio
[22:03] <AbuMaia> already tried that
[22:03] <njbair> are there any open-source nvidia drivers in the ubuntu repos?
[22:04] <Nitsuga> AbuMaia, check its dependencies with right-click -> proprerties in synaptic
[22:04] <frontendloader> I have an app that needs xulrunner-dev to be installed and there is a chain of broken dependencies in apt for it, is there any way to force this?
[22:04] <frontendloader> xulrunner-1.9.1-dev: Depends: xulrunner-1.9.1 (= <IP_ADDRESS>+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu6) but <IP_ADDRESS>+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed
[22:04] <Grobul> Trying to setup vnc following the ubuntu documentation. When I try to connect I get his instantly: CConn:       connected to host localhost port 5900          main:        End of stream
[22:04] <Grobul> Documentation I am using: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[22:04] <AbuMaia> so I tried listing the -devs in Synaptic, to remove, but I'm told that's not safe
[22:04] <VCoolio> AbuMaia: oh wait yeah, you specifically added them; you should get an apt log, synaptic has that in file menu
[22:04] <Nitsuga> njbair, you have the old nv and the new nouveau drivers are in 10.04+
[22:04] <JorgeJorgensson> stargaze
[22:04] <JorgeJorgensson> Star
[22:05] <Purpley1> Hey how do i recover things from a partition i resized? I lost half of  my datta for some reason
[22:05] <njbair> Nitsuga: what about karmic?
[22:05] <RobSpectre> Is something boned with the Eclipse package on Karmic? I can't update.
[22:05] <blakkheim> !repeat > Purpley1
[22:05] <erUSUL> !undelete | Purpley1
[22:05] <tom_mahoon1> is there a way to change the kernel i'm using over the network?
[22:05] <Purpley1> Thanks erUSUL
[22:05] <Nitsuga> njbair, you can use nv only in karmic. you should not install nouveau in karmic or you mey not get a smooth upgrate to lucid.
[22:05] <erUSUL> Purpley1: did you pass an fsck after resizing ?
[22:06] <Purpley1> erUSUL, Whats that?
[22:06] <erUSUL> Purpley1: filesystem check
[22:06] <njbair> Nitsuga: what is the name of the package for nv?
[22:06] <JorgeJorgensson> No matter how much I delete, my hard drive still never has any free space and it will not even boot up anymore.  Any solution, or just reinstall from scratch?
[22:06] <ahmed> hi everyone
[22:06] <erUSUL> Purpley1: like chkdsk
[22:06] <Purpley1> YEs
[22:07] <Nitsuga> njbair, comes preinstalled. xserver-xorg-video-nv
[22:07] <serverduck> Hello is there a way to disable my touch pad while I have a usb mouse ?
[22:07] <fehlersturm> ok solved the problem
[22:07] <fehlersturm> also fucked it up
[22:07] <Guest73174> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 i386 in safe mode and i can not go to normal mode. any help please?
[22:07] <fehlersturm> *alsa
[22:07] <blakkheim> serverduck: try sudo rmmod psmouse
[22:07] <suigeneris> !bzr
[22:07] <Purpley1> erUSUL, The file system is fat32 and when gparted scans my HDD it says its corrupted but I can still enter it
[22:07] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, what did you do?
[22:07] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, what do you mean/
[22:07] <JorgeJorgensson> ?
[22:08] <serverduck> blakkheim, Ok thank you and how can i get it back running?
[22:08] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, when that issue started?
[22:08] <ghostnik11> hi this morning i woke up and tried to turn on my ubuntu 9.10 and i can not, it loads the ubuntu splash screen and then does not show me the login screen, does anyone know how to fix this
[22:08] <blakkheim> serverduck: sudo modprobe psmouse
[22:08] <njbair> thx
[22:08] <Guest73174> my name is ahmed
[22:08] <serverduck> blakkheim,  THank you so much.
[22:08] <blueglasses> Guest73174, reboot
[22:08] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I was running and started having errors with most of my programs.  checked disk space and it is zero
[22:08] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, are you running karmic? do you dual boot?
[22:08] <Four2zero> VCoolio, Im able to see the test folder in windows seven, but not able to create directories for it from windows seven ?
[22:09] <Guest73174> i did reboot many times
[22:09] <Four2zero> VCoolio, using this tutorial: http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=1168
[22:09] <ghostnik11> nitsuga, yes i am running karmic with the latest kernel and i don't have dual boot it is all ubuntu i took off windows long ago
[22:09] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, so you simply filled it? try removing a couple of gigabytes...
[22:09] <serverduck> blakkheim,  And is there a way that ubuntu will do this automaticly if I have a usb mouse or not, plugged in?
[22:09] <blueglasses> Guest73174, what is "install ubuntu in safemode?"
[22:09] <neurochrome> karmic users! is your system running slowly? run : top | grep metadata : is it showing gvfsd-metadata hogging a large amount  of cpu and memory?
[22:09] <blakkheim> serverduck: not that i can think of
[22:09] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I deleted over 5 GB, still zero bytes free
[22:09] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, do you have access to another computer for chatting?
[22:09] <RPS> Well dang I ran the command again & I'm still without sound. I've tried quite a bit. It all goes back to the laptop hanging during a reboot. Does anyone have any ideas?
[22:09] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: but i do have vmware with windows 7 on karmic and have run vmware a couple of times with windows 7
[22:10] <serverduck> blakkheim,  Back then when i had windows, i had a touchpad software which would detect if i had a usb mouse or not and would enable or disable the touchpad depending on the case.
[22:10] <Guest73174> i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i did remove compiz by sudo apt-get remove compiz* but nothing is working
[22:10] <serverduck> blakkheim,  Thank you :)
[22:10] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: i am currently running 8.10 that is on my external hard thats how i was able to get to the chat
[22:10] <VCoolio> Four2zero: 1. why do you ask me? 2. it should be 'gksudo gedit' 3. if you have the line 'writable=yes' I don't know
[22:10] <Guest73174> only safe mode is working for me
[22:10] <donvito> how to change ssh-server port
[22:11] <donvito> ?
[22:11] <blakkheim> donvito: man sshd_config
[22:11] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, okay, pay attention to this: reboot the machine and when yous ee the grub loading... thing keepp pressed shift key (continues)
[22:11] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, mmm.. strange... Did you try to check the filesystem?
[22:11] <Antisoche> Hi all - I'm running (k)Ubuntu 9.10 and just installed GnuCash.  The problem I have is that it keeps hanging -- the screen will repaint but it won't act on my mouse clicks, including the 'X' button in the titlebar (so the click gets eaten and is dismissed).  Any ideas what's going on?  'strace' only shows 'inotify_add_watch' of my homedir returning -1 ENOSPC (there's plenty of disk space).
[22:11] <blueglasses> Guest73174, what happens on the 'other' mode?
[22:12] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: anything else i should do after that
[22:12] <Guest73174> ubuntu install in safe mode when you choose f3 and safemode
[22:12] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I am doing that now
[22:12] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, that will show up a menu to choose a kernel. highlight the lastest one and press "e" to eddit the boot line. Look for "quiet splash", and remove it. Press Ctrl-X to boot.
[22:12] <Purpley> Hey im thinking of using foremost to recover my files on the partition, I only have this partition and the other one, can I set it to put all the saved files here or will it overwrite my partition and delete ubuntu?
[22:12] <Guest73174> safe mode in working fine just the fonts are very big
[22:12] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: okay
[22:12] <tom_mahoon1> hey guys how do i change which kernel grub boots by default?
[22:13] <Guest73174> i am using my laptop right now in safe mode
[22:13] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, don't forget to write the error down
[22:13] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, there, I just deleted 65 GB...still zero free
[22:13] <RPS> I have removed and reinstalled the sound drivers.
[22:14] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, can you write something?
[22:14] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, maybe just the counter is bad.
[22:14] <Guest73174> i went to /etc/x11/xorg-config but nothing to be changed
[22:14] <Purpley1> erUSUL, The file system is fat32 and when gparted scans my HDD it says its corrupted but I can still enter it
[22:15] <donvito> how to restart my ssh-server
[22:15] <blakkheim> donvito: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[22:15] <Purpley1> If i use foremost to try and recover data can i point it to this partition or will it overwrite it?
[22:15] <lachouffe> what is the editor when in a chroot env created with debootstarp ?
[22:16] <benubird> think you can always edit with vi
[22:16] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: yeah i should have did the first time write down the error when i tried to boot it through the recovery kernel
[22:16] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I tried saving a small text file and it worked
[22:17] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, try with something bigger.
[22:17] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, bigger that half of you RAM, to be precise.
[22:17] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I don't have anything.
[22:17] <ghostnik11> nitusga: but wait when i was in recover it loaded up the intram, something like that and it said it was looking for the filesystem then it replied something like ld/dev something i am about to do the recovery thing right down the error and come back
[22:17] <duartman> how can i change audio pitch on ubuntu? i have emu0404 sound card
[22:18] <tomvolek_> HI All, I used to have a CVS server running under 9.04 , now trying to start it aafter upgrade to 9.1  and the cvs server doesnt come up, where can i see its log files to see what the problem is ?
[22:18] <grzegorz> jak sie macie?
[22:19] <l7> hey, what's a good photo management program for ubuntu?
[22:19] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: i will be back just give me like 2 mins to get the error from the recovery
[22:19] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I have 4 GB of RAM and no file that is 2GB
[22:19] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, okay, go ahead!
[22:19] <l7> something sort of like iphoto, but not picasa
[22:19] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, or more than one file
[22:19] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, all I have is the live CD
[22:19] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, fill the drive with 2GB of any data.
[22:20] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, so fill it with randmo data: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/path/to/file bs=1M count=2048
[22:20] <erUSUL> l7: gthumb
[22:20] <njbair> when I run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' shouldn't it ask me questions?
[22:21] <Nitsuga> njbair, questions are asked by package xserver-common
[22:21] <l7> erUSUL: thanks, i'm checking it...
[22:21] <njbair> no questions with that either
[22:21] <erUSUL> tomvolek_: /var/log/syslog ; /var/log/daemon.log and other files in /var/log/
[22:21] <Purpley1> If i use foremost to try and recover data can i point it to this partition or will it overwrite it?
[22:21] <Nitsuga> njbair, what about xserver-xorg-core ?
[22:22] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I'm not sure what you are asking me to do here.
[22:22] <njbair> Nitsuga: nope
[22:22] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, just check if you can write data to the disk
[22:22] <njbair> my x server just stopped working yesterday. I think something weird is going on
[22:22] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, no, I'm not sure about your writing random data process.
[22:22] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, sometimes the kernel saves data to the cache while it waits for the disk to have space. If you fill that cache, you will get a no available free space error
[22:23] <cjohnston> how can i remove a version of an app from a ppa and go back to the version in the main repo?
[22:23] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, the write random data thing is for see if you can write to the drive or not.
[22:23] <mkey> hey
[22:23] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, Ok, I don't know what to type on the command line....
[22:23] <Nitsuga> !hi | mkey
[22:23] <tomvolek_> thanks erUSUL
[22:24] <neurochrome> cjohnston, remove the source then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:24] <mkey> hey
[22:24] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, the drive check came back with no errors.
[22:24] <cjohnston> neurochrome: remove the source meaning aptitude remove --purge?
[22:24] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, you were checking a mounted filesystem???
[22:24] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, yes
[22:24] <neurochrome> cjohnston, no go to system >admin > software sources and remove from there
[22:25] <erUSUL> cjohnston: no remove the ppa repo from the softare Sources
[22:25] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, you could trash the filesystem doing that
[22:25] <erUSUL> cjohnston: then reinstall the app
[22:25] <mkey> bbak
[22:25] <cjohnston> thanks neurochrome and erUSUL
[22:25] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I did it from gparted
[22:26] <neurochrome> cjohnston, you can edit your sources manually using gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list --- but when you add a ppa then I think it gets its own source.list so remove it how I said above
[22:26] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, umount it and check it again
[22:26] <blakkheim> s/gksudo gedit/sudo vi
[22:26] <neurochrome> cjohnston, no problem
[22:26] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, as precaution, I don't want to trash your partition.
[22:26] <neurochrome> blakkheim, for a beginner I think vi / vim is a bit hopeful
[22:27] <Nitsuga> blakkheim, realize that most people can't even get out of vi...
[22:27] <blakkheim> lol
[22:27] <neurochrome> blakkheim,  if you'd have said nano then that would be more realistic
[22:27] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, it is running now
[22:27] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: the kernel i am running is linux 2.6.31-19-generic
[22:28] <neurochrome> blakkheim, s/vi/emacs/g
[22:28] <Nitsuga> blakkheim, the first time i tried it i had to go to a VC and kill -9 it :B
[22:28] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, and the error is...
[22:28] <cjohnston> erUSUL: neurochrome, it isnt providing me an upgrade package after removing source... nor can i reinstall
[22:28] <blakkheim> neurochrome: he wanted to edit a text file, emacs is a good os but lacks a good text editor :)
[22:28] <neurochrome> cjohnston, when you remove it you need to update the packages - sudo apt-get update
[22:29] <neurochrome> blakkheim, touche ;)
[22:29] <cjohnston> neurochrome: I removed the source and then did the update
[22:29] <neurochrome> cjohnston, weird, what package?
[22:29] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: this is what i get in recovery: missing modules (cat /proc /modules; ls /dev) alert /dev/disk/by-uuid/08c7f565-ca69-4e5e-area-6b1df372d9af does not exist. dropping to a shell
[22:29] <cjohnston> gwibber
[22:29] <Pudgy> Is there a way to display/preview all available X-fonts (to use in urxvt) like xlsfonts?
[22:30] <Frijolie> where do you "drop" files for your iPod Touch (I've got it mounted but can't tell the directory structure)?
[22:30] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, great! We get the error, I i know how to solve it :D
[22:30] <Frijolie> er, where do you put music, video, photos, etc on your iPod Touch if you're accessing it via Nautilus?
[22:30] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: wow how do i get to your level of ubuntu experience
[22:31] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, just use it.
[22:31] <neurochrome> cjohnston, did you remove the third party source and the authentication key?
[22:31] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, ask help here, and see how sonner or later someone has the same issue :D
[22:31] <Frijolie> the only folders I see on the iPod Touch are /DCIM/100APPLE
[22:31] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: okay thanks for the advice
[22:31] <cjohnston> I unchecked the ppa source... and then did the reload.. then update
[22:31] <cjohnston> neurochrome: ^
[22:31] <neurochrome> Frijolie, you need to install the correct ifuse ppa
[22:32] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, do you know in which device is Ubutnu installed (/dev/xxx)
[22:32] <neurochrome> cjohnston, remove the relevant authentication key also
[22:32] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: i can get it for you hold on one sec
[22:32] <Frijolie> neurochrome, is "http://ppa.launchpad.net/jonabeck/ppa/ubuntu" not the right one?
[22:32] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, okay
[22:33] <lachouffe> Hi, does anyone knows a good tutorial explaining how to install dev version of soft that depend libraries newer than one of my distribution ?
[22:33] <cjohnston> neurochrome: how do i find out which one it is and remove it?
[22:33] <neurochrome> cjohnston, then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:33] <neurochrome> cjohnston, it'll have the same name as the ppa you added
[22:34] <cjohnston> where do I look neurochrome
[22:34] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: i have it as /dev/sda1 for the ext3 filesystem, /dev/sda2 for extended and /dev/sda5 fore linux swap
[22:34] <neurochrome> cjohnston, first try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade just to be sure
[22:34] <neurochrome> Frijolie, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/sync-iphone-and-ipod-touch-in-ubuntu.html
[22:35] <cjohnston> neurochrome: dist-upgrade gave nothing
[22:35] <mw88> Abend
[22:35] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, okay. I have to know your partition's UUID. execute sudo blkid /dev/sda1
[22:35] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: okay
[22:35] <neurochrome> cjohnston, system>admin>software sources then go to authentication tab and see what's there, then report back
[22:35] <mw88> Oh, good evening ^^
[22:35] <Frijolie> neurochrome, I don't have an iPhone...i have an iPod
[22:36] <Frijolie> neurochrome, and it's not "firmware version 3"
[22:36] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: /dev/sda1: UUID="08c7f565-ca69-4e5e-aeaa-6b1df372d9af" TYPE="ext4"
[22:36] <cjohnston> neurochrome: removed key.. update && upgrade still gave nothing
[22:36] <neurochrome> Frijolie, that guide should support <iPod fw v 3
[22:37] <Frijolie> ok, I'll give it a shot
[22:37] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, okay i don't know how to fix this. This is new, you UUID matche but you can moutn it anyway...
[22:37] <blerk> i've just upgraded to the latest 10.04-dev, but i didnt find the new theme/light look in there, the purple background was installed, are the new themes in -dev yet? and if not what is the eta?
[22:37] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, idea! i now know how to fix it.
[22:37] <neurochrome> cjohnston, strange - post the version output of sudo apt-cache show gwibber
[22:37] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, sorry to ask again, do you run karmic?
[22:38] <Mr-Grey> does FreeBSD work decent on ubuntu?
[22:38]  * I^llGetOverIt sweet dreams are made of this
[22:38] <stdisease> blerk, #ubuntu+1
[22:38] <stukz> im having trouble with the built in webcam on my laptop
[22:38] <Mr-Grey> or work at all for that matter
[22:38] <stdisease> Mr-Grey, sure, as a virtual appliance
[22:38] <cjohnston> neurochrome: Version: 2.29.91~bzr630-0ubuntu1~daily1
[22:38] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: yeah i run karmic koala
[22:38] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, mount you ubutnu install and tell me where did you mount it.
[22:38] <neurochrome> cjohnston, what version of ubuntu you on?
[22:39] <cyberbluntz> who knows what about KDE?
[22:39] <Mr-Grey> Excellent thank you stdisease. I'm in hopes it will solve my problem with my webcam. The cam is not really important but it's bugging me to get it to work.
[22:39] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: okay
[22:39] <cjohnston> neurochrome: lucid
[22:40] <Frijolie> neurochrome, http://pastebin.com/kmvswEyV (Unmet dependencies)
[22:40] <Frijolie> neurochrome, "broken packages"
[22:40] <neurochrome> cjohnston, well, I honestly couldn't tell you what _should_ be there then, it is still alpha after all, only another tester could confirm that theirs is different or the same
[22:40] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: i can't mount it b/c it is a ext 4 filesystem and my ubuntu 8.10 running from my external hard drive is telling me it can't mount it
[22:40] <cjohnston> neurochrome: thats the package from the daily.. but it hasnt been working for a few days
[22:40] <apn> cjohnston: check "about" of various applications. People in credits know a little.
[22:40] <stdisease> 8.10 maybe that doesn't have kernel with support for ext4
[22:40] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, ouch!
[22:41] <ghostnik11> stdisease: yeah that is what it is saying
[22:41] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, mm I think you can change it in grub anyway...
[22:41] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: what do i have to change
[22:41] <cjohnston> thanks neurochrome and apn
[22:41] <neurochrome> cjohnston, I'd remove and re-install - sudo apt-get purge gwibber
[22:41] <stdisease> ghostnik11, install a newer kernel on your 8.10, or compile a new on, 2.6.33 is on kernel.org
[22:42] <seanbrystone_> whats the fstab entry to create to make a drive auto mount, and give full read/write permissions to everyone?
[22:42] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, well, try this: in the grub menu (hold shift when loading) press the "e" key. look for UUID=08c7f565-ca69-4e5e-aeaa-6b1df372d9af and change it into /dev/sda1 .
[22:42] <neurochrome> Frijolie, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:42] <erUSUL> seanbrystone_: depends on the filesystem used
[22:42] <seanbrystone_> ext4
[22:42] <Frijolie> neurochrome, 9.10
[22:43] <ghostnik11> stdisease: i have never complied a kernel in my life but i am about to try what nitsuga just said if not then i will have to learn how to compile a kernel for 8.10
[22:43] <fallore> can someone teach me how to find and close processes? like programs that are no longer responding, etc
[22:43] <seanbrystone_> fallore, htop
[22:43] <erUSUL> fallore: pkill nameoftheprocess
[22:44] <neurochrome> Frijolie, well if you have all sources enabled then I couldn't tell you why that fails to work - so long as you added the ppa (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pmcenery/ppa)
[22:44] <fallore> how do i determine the name of the process, erusul? is there a command to list them or something?
[22:44] <erUSUL> fallore: ps aux for example
[22:44] <neurochrome> fallore, you can just use top instead of htop
[22:44] <erUSUL> fallore: pkill firefox; pkill gedit; etc... usually is the command name
[22:45] <fallore> ok, thanks erusul :)
[22:45] <fallore> and everyone else!
[22:45] <seanbrystone_> neurochrome, you got prob with htop?
[22:45] <neurochrome> seanbrystone, no it just ins't installed by default and top is
[22:45] <Mr-Grey> Fallore: On my ubuntu I have a System Monitor application under the System menu which you can then go to processes and locate it that way if you plan on using the GUI
[22:45] <rawake> i'm trying to run "apt-get install php5-dev" but i get this error, "Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main libssl-dev 0.9.8g-4ubuntu3.3". how do i fix this?
[22:45] <neurochrome> s/ins't/isn't/g
[22:45] <stdisease> ghostnik11, you can also try mounting as ext3 if you're lucky it'll mount if not, just fetch .deb kernels from a newer ubuntu release and sudo dpkg -i <.deb> them
[22:45] <patri> hi, who can help me? i dont know how install amsn in ubuntu, i cannot enter in synaptic. please help me
[22:46] <fallore> thanks Mr-Grey! i wasn't sure what that did, should've checked it out.
[22:46] <seanbrystone_> neurochrome, yeah so? how hard is it to install? lol its not a huge program.
[22:46] <Frijolie> neurochrome, i'm going through it again...we'll see if it's any different. Is it worth an "upgrade-manager -d"?
[22:46] <Mr-Grey> fallore: Anytime
[22:46] <Tatsuya6400> does any1 know if i can close Transmission then run it later without it losing my incomplete downloads?
[22:46] <neurochrome> seanbrystone, wow no need to get beefy ;)
[22:46] <stdisease> rawake, try 'apt-get update' first
[22:47] <stdisease> Tatsuya6400, sure, it'll pick up where it left off
[22:47] <Nitsuga> fallore, if you have a frozen window you cn use xkill to kill it by clicking on it.
[22:47] <fallore> how do i do that, nitsuga?
[22:47] <Tatsuya6400> thx i was wary to try it myself lol
[22:47] <Nitsuga> fallore, press alt-f2 and type xkill
[22:47] <rawake> stdisease: heh thanks
[22:47] <tom_mahoon1> patri: what do you mean you can't enter in synaptic
[22:47] <neurochrome> Frijolie, possibly, if you foolow it to the letter then it should be ok
[22:47] <fallore> oh great :D thanks Nitsuga
[22:47] <erUSUL> Tatsuya6400: sure; bittorrents downloads can be restatrted
[22:47] <Frijolie> neurochrome, same result..all repos are enabled in "Software Sources" and just did a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[22:48] <Nitsuga> fallore, to cancel press right button
[22:48] <neurochrome> Frijolie,  did you add the relevant ppa
[22:48] <Frijolie> neurochrome, the "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pmcenery/ppa"? Yes
[22:49] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, this disk check is taking a very long time.
[22:49] <neurochrome> Frijolie, couldn't tell you then sorry
[22:49] <neurochrome> gtg
[22:49] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, humm... i hope you didn't break the filesystem :(
[22:49] <cyberbluntz> you almost dont even need the terminAl
[22:50] <Mr-Grey> Ah, so xkill kills the process you currently have loaded upon the screen correct?
[22:50] <cyberbluntz> thats crazy
[22:50] <Mr-Grey> or the "active window" I could say
[22:50] <cyberbluntz> just give the run as admin option on pop up menu
[22:50] <Nitsuga> Mr-Grey, technically it forcefully closes the window. That will kill most porcesses, but some may choose to continue
[22:51] <cyberbluntz> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:51] <Nitsuga> Mr-Grey, it changes the cursor to an X, click o a window, and it's gone!
[22:51] <donvito2> were can i find the /www/ folder on ubuntu
[22:51] <Mr-Grey> Excellent tip to know Nitsuga, thank you kindly :)
[22:51] <stdisease> donvito2, /var/www
[22:52] <abysse> hi
[22:52] <Mr-Grey> I feel like a kid in a candy store learning all of this. I've been wanting to learn linux for years just never had the patience to actually do it but I'm not getting any younger
[22:52] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: nope didn't work at all
[22:52] <seanbrystone_> !yay | Mr-Grey
[22:53] <Mr-Grey> lol me too!
[22:53] <datz> Hi, I was wondering if I don't update for awhile, and their are multiple kernel updates in that time, will I be able to update to the latest one, or will I have to update to each missed one in order?
[22:53] <cyberbluntz> I feel comfortable enough to be classified as a user within the terminal
[22:53] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: it said /dev/sda1 was not there or something like that but when i was looking in the edit file it said root hd 0,1
[22:54] <Elrox> Mr-Grey, i was just like that 5 years ago when i first got here, and kinda still am sometimes
[22:54] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: then when i was booting off my external harddrive it said the same uuid but hd 0,4
[22:54] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, it is ok, now grubs uses 1-based count for partitions.
[22:54] <mizerydearia> I am using gentoo linux and am having an issue with Firefox.  I want to determine if this issue is specific to gentoo linux's portage installations of firefox or if it applies to ALL linux-versions of firefox.  ------>  Using Firefox's integrated print preview I have been unable to remove the header showing the title of the page (on left) and the url (on right).  I was able to remove these headers w
[22:54] <mizerydearia> hen actually printing, but not when print previewing.  Is this issue specific to gentoo or my installation of firefox, or is this an issue with linux-based firefox entirely?
[22:54] <stdisease> mizerydearia, #gentoo
[22:54] <mizerydearia> o_o
[22:54] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, ok, whew finished.
[22:54] <stdisease> mizerydearia, hm nm
[22:54] <mizerydearia> ^_^
[22:55] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, mmm... that's weird.
[22:55] <chili555> datz, skipping is perfectly fine
[22:55] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, check the uoutut of fsck in the details section of the progress window in gparted
[22:55] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: any other ideas that i can try for now b/c i have to go to go check on my bacteria in lab and i wont be back till 9:30 are you going to still be in the chat room
[22:56] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I will pastebin
[22:56] <Mr-Grey> Elrox: When I installed ubunto it found all of my hardware and installed the proper drivers except a webcam I'm not concerned about so I basicly just made a true switch from Windows. With windows 7 etc I don't have 200 bucks to fork over to them and plus I like the comunity of people who do not mind helping out with questions. You can never get that kind of support out of microsoft
[22:56] <cyberbluntz> what are you growin?
[22:57] <cyberbluntz> e-coli? ^^
[22:57] <stdisease> mizerydearia, seems all firefoxen do that
[22:57] <pfred1> is there a channel for ubuntu networking?
[22:57] <ghostnik11> cyberbluntz: well it is not a research lab is, it is just microbiology lab and we grow stuff like E. coli, S. aureus
[22:57] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, pastebin.ca/1823241
[22:57] <mizerydearia> stdisease, Windows version does remove the headers in print preview, so it is not all firefoxen.
[22:57] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, not likely.
[22:57] <sepi> hey developers, which way is the most efficient way to manipulate pixels in gtk+ or gtkmm?
[22:57] <ghostnik11> cyberluntz: today i have to go start my unknown and try to determine what I have
[22:57] <Nitsuga> ghostnik11, also i got out of ideas, sorry. You can try using another kernel.
[22:57] <stdisease> mizerydearia, you said all linux versions :-D
[22:57] <cyberbluntz> thats neat, I dabble a little in mycology :)
[22:58] <donvito2> !forums
[22:58] <datz> Hi, I was wondering if I don't update for awhile, and their are multiple kernel updates in that time, will I be able to update to the latest one, or will I have to update to each missed one in order that it was released?
[22:58] <donvito2> ! smp forum
[22:58] <sepi> i'm wondering what is the real difference among pixmap, pixbuff, rgb, drawable ...
[22:58] <donvito2> !smp forum
[22:58] <donvito2> !phpbb2
[22:58] <cyberbluntz> the creators probably
[22:58] <ghostnik11> nitusga: its okay man, i will figure it out but thanks for the help when i get a chance to i will try to use the first kernell that i had when i first install 9.10
[22:59] <chili555> datz, skipping is generally OK, but there may be some differences in the way config files are handled, they should work pretty well
[22:59] <cyberbluntz> what kinda scope do you get to use?
[22:59] <donvito2> what kind of forums support ubuntu
[22:59] <mizerydearia> stdisease, I did.  You said "All firefoxen"
[22:59] <cyberbluntz> sorry im !ot | cyberbluntz
[22:59] <stdisease> mizerydearia, within the 'all linux versions' scope you gave me to work with
[22:59]  * mizerydearia chuckles
[23:00] <datz> chili555: I am talking about kernel updates. Is that what you were referring to?
[23:00] <chili555> datz, yes, indeed
[23:00] <Four2zero> okay, im running ubuntu 9.10 and am connected to my network wirelessly. I have installed samba and i have created a test folder by following a tutorial. I am able to see: " Places>Network " but in that directory are three folders "mshome; myhome; workgroup" ubuntu will not allow me to open these directory.
[23:00] <ghostnik11> cyberbluntz, we don't get to use anything big its just a lab class for us bio majors but we use electric microscope with the highest power being 100x and we are allowed to use oil immersion
[23:00] <ringo999> so i'm trying to upgrade RubyGems to 1.3.6 with gem update --system, but I get: gem update --system is disabled on Debian? what to do?
[23:01] <ghostnik11> cyberbluntz: hey i got to go but next time we can discuss more stuff on bacteria, later
[23:01] <cyberbluntz> I have never got a peek through an electron yet =-/ but then again, i'm taking networking and security :)
[23:01] <ghostnik11> nitsuga: thanks again for your help, really apreciate it
[23:01] <datz> chili555: great. :) I realized that apt-get upgrade doesn't update the kernel when there are updates released, and I'd rather keep my system up... just was wondering what would happen when kernel updates pile up. ;)
[23:01] <cyberbluntz> bye
[23:02] <cyberbluntz> look me upin ot if you wanna chat
[23:02] <chili555> datz, it doesn't? it has for me
[23:02] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, the results seem ok.
[23:02] <datz> chili555: it didn't last time I checked.
[23:03] <datz> chili555: looking at the update log, almost looks like it does though..
[23:03] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, yes, the look right
[23:03] <chili555> datz, how did you determine it didnt? apt-get didnt and Update Mnger did?
[23:03] <Samuel_> Hey.  Anyone know how to add a cdrom repository in ubuntu-server?
[23:03] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, now try to mount it and see if you have free space (use df -h)
[23:03] <Administrador> Hello some one here know how to unlock a Ipod 3G???
[23:03] <cyberbluntz> howcan I change the command prompt to say something else without renaming my home directory?
[23:04] <erUSUL> Samuel_: apt-cdrom add ?
[23:04] <chili555> datz, did you run apt-get update first and then upgrade?
[23:04] <erUSUL> cyberbluntz: tweak the PS1 env variable
[23:04] <erUSUL> cyberbluntz: man bash
[23:04] <Administrador> Hello some one here know how to unlock a Ipod 3G??
[23:04] <cyberbluntz> that thing is way big dude
[23:04] <cyberbluntz> ivedone it
[23:04] <datz> chili555: well I ran apt-get upgrade once before, and when I got to the GUI, I noticed that there were only kernel updates availiable, so I figured it skipped them. but maybe their were quickly more kernel updates in that time period.
[23:04] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I normall just mount with Nautilus
[23:04] <cyberbluntz> isnt there a way to narrow it down?
[23:04] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, mount it with nautilus
[23:04] <erUSUL> cyberbluntz: you can search, /PS1 hit enter
[23:05] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, but check the space with df -h
[23:05] <datz> chili555: yes, I ran update first
[23:05] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, 0 bytes free
[23:05] <cyberbluntz> ok ty
[23:05] <stdisease> datz, maybe it wants dist-upgrade not just upgrade
[23:05] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, D:
[23:05] <erUSUL> cyberbluntz: but basycally you can do export PS1="mysocoolpromtfromhell--->" and it will work
[23:05] <datz> stdisease: I don't think so,I was using 9.
[23:05] <datz> 9.10
[23:05] <chili555> datz, the apt routine _should_ be identical to Update Mgr, AFAIK
[23:06] <datz> chili555: ok, thanks. I wasn't sure about that
[23:06] <chili555> datz, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:06] <datz> well, then I have another question, if I don't restart the system and just to update and upgrade again after there are more kernel updates, will there be a problem?
[23:07] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I assume I'm beat here?
[23:07] <stdisease> datz, unlikely imho
[23:07] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, I can't find anything on google...
[23:07] <datz> stdisease: ok thanks
[23:07] <chili555> datz, not beyond minor config changes, but those are usually quite minor and easy to fix
[23:08] <datz> chili555: ok. I guess it is probably better to restart the system after kernel updates anyway...
[23:08] <datz> and not install them and let them pile up
[23:08] <chili555> datz, i agree
[23:08] <cyberbluntz> and to reset? thx for the time save btw :)
[23:09] <duncanidaho1> Does anyone run both KDE and Gnome switching between the 2 at the login screen?
[23:09] <erUSUL> !who | cyberbluntz
[23:09] <cyberbluntz> I know dos has like %t%d etc
[23:09] <stdisease> duncanidaho1, yes
[23:09] <cyberbluntz> erUSUL, ok
[23:10] <duncanidaho1> @stdisease I'm trying to do that.  I've installed kubuntu-desktop
[23:10] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I'm going to try one more reboot before I scrap it
[23:10] <erUSUL> cyberbluntz: source ~/.bashrc
[23:10] <cyberbluntz> i take it thats a config
[23:10] <stdisease> duncanidaho1, next time at the login screen choose the session type to be kde or gnome or whatever else you have installed
[23:10] <erUSUL> cyberbluntz: yes; there is the default definition of PS1 for ubuntu-debian
[23:11] <Tiders> Is updating Ubuntu with the upgrade program usually safe?
[23:11] <erUSUL> cyberbluntz: this is what it looks like PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ '
[23:11] <Tiders> From 9.04 to 9.10
[23:11] <cyberbluntz> erUSUL, tyvm!
[23:12] <cyberbluntz> I learn more from these rooms than I do my linux teacher =-/
[23:12] <duncanidaho1> @stdisease when I switch and login, it looks like everything will run fine
[23:12] <Nitsuga> cyberbluntz, you surely do.
[23:12] <OltreIrc`51996> hi
[23:12] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, nope, gone.  I get a generic login screen with an error "Install Problem!  The configuration defaults for gnome power manager have not been installed correctly."
[23:12] <stdisease> cyberbluntz, those \ escapes are supposed to be colors if you have TERM=xterm-color on your terminal app, fyi
[23:12] <OltreIrc`51996> !list
[23:12] <duncanidaho1> @stdisease but I get no menu system, no desktop, I can't right click and get a context menu.  I'm not connected to the internet
[23:13] <Younder> hi all
[23:13] <seanbrystone_> forgot who i talked to bout file spitting, but i found out Nautilus has a GUI for splitting files, Right click file > Compress > (pick a compression like .7z) then you'll see "Split in Volumes of...(X Amount of megs or gigs)  :)
[23:13] <cyberbluntz> :P
[23:14] <neezer> has anyone here gotten an ipod touch working in ubuntu?
[23:14] <duncanidaho1> @stdisease Gnome-Do does comes up though...any ideas?
[23:14] <Younder> neezer, no
[23:14] <Four2zero> okay, im running ubuntu 9.10 and am connected to my network wirelessly. I have installed samba and i have created a test folder by following a tutorial. I am able to see: " Places>Network " but in that directory are three folders "mshome; myhome; workgroup" ubuntu will not allow me to open these directory. how can fix this ?
[23:14] <scootsm> Hi, I'm on version 9.4 and want to upgrade to 9.10.  I'm using andLinux however and I never thought about Kernel modules / etc.  Is there a way I can migrate *most* of my system over to 9.10, or use the 9.10 sources for some packages?
[23:14] <stdisease> duncanidaho1, none, sorry, I have both running fine together
[23:14] <gulo> mizerydearia; if I go into about:config in Firefox and search for header, by blanking out print.print_headerleft and print.print_headerright they remain gone both in Print Preview and when I actually print the document. That might help you.
[23:15] <duncanidaho1> stdisease,  ok thanks
[23:16] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, i found something you can try
[23:17] <Four2zero> why does ubuntu disconnects my wifi ?
[23:17] <Nitsuga> JorgeJorgensson, umount the partition and run tune2fs -r 0 /dev/xxx  , where xxx it your device name
[23:17] <Four2zero> when downloading in progress.
[23:17] <Purpley1> Hey guys, i know my partition is screwed up, but when I go to view something on it like a Aerosmith album I get weird characters like ╬▒ŌīÉ1cŌö┤├Ī╬▒├║.?┬ĀŌöī for one song whats this mean?
[23:17] <erUSUL> !ipod | neezer
[23:18] <Four2zero> on an Acer Aspire One Netbook AO532H.
[23:18] <stdisease> Purpley, try to fix the partition first with fsck or from a live CD, it means the data on your disk may be really corrupted
[23:19] <Purpley> stdisease, Does that mean I probably wont retrieve it?
[23:19] <stdisease> Purpley, hard to say, you could retrieve some or all of it after your attempt to repair
[23:20] <smuggle> Does anyone here knows if WPA2 bug (reconnecting) will be resolved on Ubuntu 10.04???
[23:20] <stdisease> smuggle, #ubuntu+1
[23:20] <Purpley> Im following ubuntu's guide on using ddrescue, Can I just be booted up instead of on a live cd because the partition is seperate from this one and nothing is writing to it because its unmounted?
[23:20] <JorgeJorgensson> Nitsuga, I'm just searching the forums and this "mystery fill" is not uncommon.
[23:21] <smuggle> stdisease: I didn't understand..
[23:21] <stdisease> !lucid | smuggle
[23:21] <erUSUL> Purpley: yes you can do it from the installed ubuntu
[23:21] <derek__> hola,que tal
[23:22] <erUSUL> !es | derek__
[23:22] <smuggle> ok.. thanks
[23:22] <leopard> hello
[23:23] <Purpley> Oh good I hate live cd's :/
[23:23] <leopard> I like live cds
[23:24] <Red_HamsterX> I like them, too.
[23:25] <AndyGraybeal> how do i make it so that my users won't add anything to their desktop?  or change the names of the folders that are already on their desktop?
[23:25] <Elrox> live-CDs can save windows boxes,,, for others of course, but you're still the hero when you recover someone's corrupt windoz box ;-)
[23:25] <storm-zen> I have an external drive that has music on it.  The drive letters keep changing on boot.  How do I stop that behavior?
[23:25] <neezer> I want to kill a process with PID of 2093, but I'm not sure how to. I tried using sudo top, then k to kill it and the PID, but it isn't doing the trick.
[23:26] <Elrox> storm-zen, get their UUIDs and and set them in /etc/fstab
[23:26] <lacysinx> just a quick question  does ubuntu have support for usb speakers  or no ?
[23:26] <storm-zen> Elrox: Ok.  I'll look into that.  Thanks.
[23:27] <MilitantPotato> Is there an applet for wicd ?
[23:27] <stdisease> neezer, kill <pid> , kill -9 <pid> for more stubborn processes
[23:27] <JorgeJorgensson> anyone else know how to get rid of a zero byte free problem on a hard disk?
[23:28] <jzacsh> hello, could someone give me a pointer about virtual hosts? -- I'm trying to use name-based virtual hosting purely for local development on my own laptop. I'm trying to follow this page, and its links: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/vhosts/ -- my bottom line goal is simply to have a separate document roots for separate development projects on my laptop. my httpd.conf right now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/388590/  -- but the second virtual host directive doesn'
[23:28] <neezer> stdisease, is the PID going to be the same one that I see in top?
[23:28] <Red_HamsterX> jzacsh, you almost certainly are not using Apache 1.3.
[23:28] <stdisease> neezer, sure if it's the same app that's been running all along
[23:28] <erUSUL> neezer: kill 2093
[23:28] <lacysinx> can someone help me with a sound problem im useing usb speakers but getting no sound ?
[23:29] <eddy> who works for ubuntu here?
[23:29] <Elrox> storm-zen, here's an example of the command...    sudo vol_id --uuid /dev/sda1
[23:29] <jepster> I've a problem with the cp-command. when I write cp -p folder-a/ folder-b/ so I get only omitting-messages. nothig is copied. how I can change that?
[23:29] <jzacsh> Red_HamsterX: I'm using apahce 2.2.12
[23:29] <MilitantPotato> lacysinx: install padevchooser and open it, it should allow you to select the USB speakers
[23:29] <storm-zen> Elrox: That helps.  Thanks. :)
[23:29] <neezer> needed to do sudo kill -9 2093....thanks for the help guys.
[23:30] <jzacsh> Red_HamsterX: OH! thanks!
[23:30] <MilitantPotato> lacysinx: It's a program called Pulse Audio Device Chooser
[23:30] <jzacsh> Red_HamsterX: Idk how I got to the 1.3 docs! thank you
[23:30] <neezer> it just keeps starting back up...It is folding at home, and it is on my headless server.
[23:30] <neezer> I want to stop it cause it is starting to get warm out here and I don't want the server to overheat.
[23:31] <storm-zen> Elrox: Is there anything that goes from mount-point to UUID?
[23:31] <stukz> how do i run firefox as a root?
[23:31] <stukz> total noobie to ubuntu btw
[23:31] <storm-zen> stukz: That's a bad idea
[23:31] <_ting__> hi
[23:31] <erUSUL> !uuid
[23:31] <storm-zen> stukz: What are you intending to do?
[23:31] <_ting__> could anyone help me?
[23:32] <stukz> im trying to get the webcam to work
[23:32] <_ting__> I am trying to create a new user in with has a "_"
[23:32] <stukz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1226722&page=2
[23:32] <_ting__> Realtek_guest, but i am not allow to use "_"
[23:32] <stukz> it said that they got it to work after running firefox as a root
[23:32] <storm-zen> erUSUL: That doesn't give me mount point.  It gives me device.
[23:32] <_ting__> is a way to force it?
[23:32] <erUSUL> storm-zen: cat /proc/mounts
[23:33] <erUSUL> _ting__: no
[23:33] <cannottell> hey
[23:33] <Red_HamsterX> jzacsh, if you have any specific questions, you can PM me. Otherwise, it might be a good idea to ask in an Apache/web-development channel. Ubuntu doesn't do anything weird, aside from how it divides sites; that process, and the 'a2ensite' utility, are well-documented on the Internet.
[23:33] <storm-zen> erUSUL: Well, that gets me closer.  I was looking for a one-step solution from mount-point to UUID.  I'll just map it manually.
[23:33] <_ting__> jarr
[23:33] <_ting__> shit
[23:33] <_ting__> thanks anyway
[23:34] <epkugelmass> anyone else unable to access ANY canonical-related website?
[23:34] <lacysinx>  how can i test my sound ?
[23:34] <jpds> epkugelmass: Yes.
[23:34] <epkugelmass> jpds, any news from canonical?
[23:34] <jpds> epkugelmass: As in?
[23:35] <Akkernight> is there a way to make .deb packages?
[23:35] <jpds> Akkernight: Yes.
[23:35] <epkugelmass> jpds, expected downtime? services affected?
[23:35] <jpds> !packaging | Akkernight
[23:35] <jpds> epkugelmass: No.
[23:35] <Akkernight> jpds, and for smaller apps that you don't want others to bother installing, is there a way to make those easily work on other linux distros?
[23:36] <gulo> jepster; You're getting the omitting-message because cp doesn't do directories without being told to .. if you just want the files inside you can try cp -p folder-a/* folder-b/  but if you want the whole folder structure, try cp -r folder-a/ folder-b/
[23:36] <OerHeks> Akkernight, compile the sourcecode
[23:36] <rascal999> anyone here familiar with unionfs?
[23:36] <jepster> gulo: this works, thanks.
[23:37] <Akkernight> OerHeks, as in make others compile it? That's not cool at all :P Anyways, I did try sending another linux guy the executable with the needed files, it didn't work
[23:37] <gulo> jepster, yw :)
[23:37] <mclark1129> Hello, I've reformatted my /boot/ partition using gparted, and now i need to know how I can restore the files it needs using the liveCD
[23:37] <lacysinx>  i installed it and still no sound <MilitantPotato>
[23:39] <w00tz_> I have a process that's been running for days and has generated a huge log file, I want to clean up the log file and have the process continue logging
[23:39] <lacysinx>  nevermind i figured it out thanks MilitantPotato
[23:39] <ezhangin> sup gents
[23:40] <tiemonster> I have a Acer TravelMate 2200 with Windows wireless driver installed via ndiswrapper.  For further reference, how would I be able to do this?
[23:40] <ezhangin> real quick question: i've had an ubuntu server install for months and decided to install the ubuntu-desktop package as i wanted to try out XBMC.  What optimizations have been done for the server kernel and will it affect performance with the desktop environment?
[23:41] <ezhangin> i should have said "with respect to the desktop environment"
[23:42] <dho_> w00tz_: that's a strange one... usually in a situation where the file is being used by the OS, i either copy the file, or write a script to clean up STDIN so you can tail -f the log file into the script.
[23:42] <Losha> w00tz_: it may not be possible, depending on how the programmer arranged to create/update the log file. If the programmer was lazy enough, the only way might be to restart the process. Which process btw?
[23:42] <nuaimat> hi all, i want to install ubuntu 64 bit along with currently-installed ubuntu 32 bit and windows xp, i have problems with the partition table, or i dont know what should i do in order to create a new partition for the 64 system. can anyone help me ?
[23:44] <Atrice> Is any one in heree that could offer me some help?
[23:44] <w00tz_> Losha: it was a python script that just did some database stuff on an ubuntu server. Its literally been running for 1 month and hasn't finished, but generated a 250GB log file ;(
[23:47] <marioand23> hola
[23:47] <marioand23> a todos
[23:49] <marioand23> alguen me puede ayudar porfavor
[23:49] <donvito2> how to configure my wlan on ubuntu
[23:50] <Solar_Flare> hi
[23:50] <NewWorld> donvito2:  At the bottom right there should be the network manager applet
[23:50] <NewWorld> Hi Solar_Flare
[23:50] <Solar_Flare> Do you know, why I cant use my wlan0 and eth0 at the same time?
[23:51] <NewWorld> Solar_Flare:  How were you planningn to use both?
[23:51] <zongo_> hey Guys, I need a solution to flash my bios under linux
[23:51] <nuaimat> hi all, i want to install ubuntu 64 bit along with currently-installed ubuntu 32 bit and windows xp, i have problems with the partition table, or i dont know what should i do in order to create a new partition for the 64 system. can anyone help me ?
[23:51] <marioand23> hi good afternoon
[23:52] <zongo_> I have been looking the whole day now but to no avail
[23:52] <NewWorld> nuaimat:  Use the Gparted program.
[23:52] <zongo_> anyone done it under linux ?
[23:52] <Solar_Flare> NewWorld: like ah... one for internet and network, other for cable bound ssh (much faster)
[23:52] <MilitantPotato> nuaimat: gparted works well
[23:52] <MilitantPotato> nuaimat: backup data on any partition you plan on resizing, incase of data loss
[23:52] <rahduke> i just bought a wireless mini keyboard/mouse combo for my HTPC.... It doesn't have Fkeys on it. How can i change the keyboard shortcuts for the Fkey functions (ie ctrl+Alt+F2)
[23:52] <nuaimat> ok i will try gparted
[23:52] <nuaimat> thanks
[23:52] <NewWorld> Solar_Flare:  Hmm I'm not sure :/ could it be done under windows?
[23:53] <marioand23> algen can help me configure the keyboard well
[23:53] <MilitantPotato> rahduke: System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[23:53] <NewWorld> rahduke:  gconf-editor
[23:53] <rahduke> MilitantPotato: that doesnt allow me to change f keys
[23:53] <rahduke> NewWorld: where in gconf?
[23:53] <NewWorld> rahduke:  Run it as a program
[23:53] <Losha> w00tz_: nasty. I bet the author didn't expect it to run so long. Are you sure it's even working correctly?
[23:53] <NewWorld> rahduke:  In terminal
[23:54] <Solar_Flare> NewWorld: strangely, it works on another ubuntu system (8.10 Backtrack 4)
[23:54] <dsnyders> HI all!  I'm planning on making a new computer, heavy on virtualization capability.  Any recommendations for a good linux compatible motherboard
[23:54] <lucascarvalho> Hello, I have created a debian package but I've found a strange behavior during dpkg -P. http://pastebin.ca/1823295 I don't understand it tries to remove /opt/ !! does anyone knows how to solve it?
[23:54] <rahduke> NewWorld: i am running it as a program, where can I find the keybindings?
[23:54] <marioand23> algen escribe o habla spanish o espa├▒ol
[23:54] <blakkheim> dsnyders: X58 or P55 chipset
[23:54] <NewWorld> Solar_Flare:  Hmmm I didn't know it was possible haha. I don't think you'll be able to do it with the nm-applet though so I dunno sorry.
[23:54] <donvito2> NewWorld i have ubuntu server
[23:54] <donvito2> so i need commands
[23:54] <dsnyders> blakkheim, Was that a question or a statement?
[23:55] <blakkheim> dsnyders: a recommendation
[23:55] <Solar_Flare> NewWorld: *cry*
[23:55] <Losha> !es | marioand23
[23:55] <NewWorld> rahduke:  Ctrl + F > Tick all boxes > search string: "keybind"
[23:55] <Solar_Flare> well... ill find a way -.-
[23:55] <donvito2> how to configure my wlan on ubuntu server
[23:55] <NewWorld> donvito2:  What encryption will you be using?
[23:55] <donvito2> WPA2
[23:55] <marioand23> gracias ubottu
[23:56] <Losha> dsnyders: look on newegg for something the reviewers say runs well with ubuntu
[23:56] <dsnyders> blakkheim, Okay, I'll keep that in mind.
[23:56] <donvito2> WPA/WPA2
[23:56]  * dsnyders jots down x58 or p55 chipset
[23:57] <blakkheim> dsnyders: what type of cpu will you be using
[23:57] <dsnyders> Losha, they don't have newegg in my corner of the world.
[23:57] <NewWorld> donvito2:  I'm not sure if it's the best way to do it in Ubuntu, but the program 'wpa_supplicant' will work
[23:57] <xxxxxxxxxxxx> hy all
[23:57] <donvito2> NewWorld i just need to configure the ips table
[23:57] <Losha> dsnyders: you can't access www.newegg.com ?
[23:57] <donvito2> nothing much just tell me the command how to do that
[23:57] <dsnyders> blakkheim, I was thinking of maybe a quad core?
[23:57] <cyberbluntz> tek@tek"mysocoolpromptfromhell--->"[:~$
[23:57] <donvito2> for example i just need to do manually dhe ip adress
[23:58] <cyberbluntz> damn cant see colors t.t
[23:58] <donvito2> because my dhcp is disabled
[23:58] <dsnyders> Losha, I can access it, but they don't have a brick and mortar presence nearby.
[23:58] <blakkheim> dsnyders: yes of course but which family of cpus? you'll need socket 1366 for an X58 board or socket 1156 for a P55
[23:58] <Solar_Flare> donvito2: ifconfig?
[23:58] <donvito2> yes
[23:58] <Guest87077> hey im new to this so can anybody  help me with linux and a few tricks that goes with it in order this this os to run faster?
[23:59] <rmrfslash> Can I install Ubuntu w/o an internet connection? The server installer is trying to fetch files via synaptic, can I tell it to not do this?
[23:59] <donvito2> how to edit the ifconfig
[23:59] <NewWorld> donvito2:  The relevant packages I think are ifconfig, iwconfig, wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd
[23:59] <Solar_Flare> Guest87077: first pro tip: get a name we can remember. so if you have another problem we can use the history ^^
[23:59] <Losha> dsnyders: Uh, use it to compile a list of recommendations, and then shop locally....
[23:59] <Solar_Flare> and secondly, be a bit more specific please? what you wanna do faster?
[23:59] <NewWorld> Guest87077:  type '/nick [yournewnick]'


[00:13] <chris4585> woot, my brother got a 500gb 2.5" hdd which means everyone gets an upgrade lol
[00:14] <wrst> ha ha cool chris4585 :)
[00:15] <chris4585> yeah, just need to get some 2.5" to 3.5" converters
[00:16] <chris4585> $49 for 500gb isn't too bad
[00:16] <chris4585> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145447&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-
[00:19] <wrst> not bad at all
[04:21] <Juzzy> dont buy a 5400rpm hdd ;/
[04:22] <chris4585> its for a ps3
[04:22] <Juzzy> ahhh
[04:22] <Juzzy> ok nm :D
[04:24] <chris4585> yeah, ps3's hdds are like 5400rpm anyway
[14:37] <wrst> hello ttgdztutao
[14:37] <ttgdztutao> yes?
[14:39] <wrst> just saying hello ;)
[14:39] <wrst> you doing ok? :)
[14:40] <ttgdztutao> ok
[14:40] <ttgdztutao> I am lazy,hahah
[14:42] <wrst> nothing wrong with that :)
[14:43] <ttgdztutao> did we interput others?
[14:44] <wrst> no ttgdztutao, never worry about that
[14:44] <wrst> if we do they will tell us ;)
[14:44] <ttgdztutao> where are you?
[14:44] <ttgdztutao> american?
[14:45] <wrst> yep all of us are from tennessee
[14:45] <ttgdztutao> I know that
[14:45] <wrst> no wait all of us aren't most of us are
[14:45] <wrst> sorry Unit193 :)
[15:55] <wrst> howdy alyawn
[15:56] <alyawn> hey, wrst
[15:56] <wrst> all going well alyawn?
[15:57] <alyawn> yep... was out all last week at a client, but back now
[15:57] <wrst> cool alyawn
[15:58] <alyawn> yeah... well, I survived at least :)
[19:28] <netritious_> woohoo hump day!
[19:29] <wrst> congrats netritious
[19:30] <netritious> for what wrst?
[19:32] <wrst> made it this far
[19:52] <chris4585> woot
[20:46] <pace_t_zulu> who  is TheMaster ?
[20:46] <pace_t_zulu> someone we know ...
[20:46] <pace_t_zulu> TheMaster: who are you?
[20:46] <TheMaster> Very ticked off at this.... Unit193
[20:47] <pace_t_zulu> TheMaster: who are you?
[20:47] <pace_t_zulu> what is going on w ChanServ ?
[20:47] <pace_t_zulu> this is odd
[23:10] <linuxman410> anyone here
[23:11] <TheMaster> Nope.
[23:11] <TheMaster> Just us chickens.
[23:12] <linuxman410> how r u
[23:12] <TheMaster> Alive, and about to have coffee.
[23:13] <linuxman410> cool i used to be a member of this group
[23:13] <TheMaster> Why not now?
[23:14] <cyberanger> hey linuxman410
[23:14] <linuxman410> hey cyberanger how r u
[23:14] <linuxman410> i just quit themaster
[23:15] <TheMaster> Alrighty, I remember your nick.
[23:15] <cyberanger> linuxman410: long week, doing ok
[23:15] <wrst> hey hey linuxman410
[23:15] <linuxman410> i still use ubuntu and fedora and macpup
[23:15] <linuxman410> hey wrst
[23:16] <wrst> linuxman410: how you doing?
[23:16] <linuxman410> i still promote ubuntu and tell everyone about it
[23:16] <linuxman410> wrst doing ok i guess
[23:21] <linuxman410> got to go have fun guys
[23:42] <alyawn> good evening all
[23:52] <TheMaster> Howdy.


[15:49] <v0lksman> can I ask a packaging question here that I can't seem to get answered in #ubuntu or #debian? It's very specific to how APT looks for changes
[22:05] <Unit193> v0lksman: IIRC, if you were to push a same-version package to a repo, apt would decide to re-download it based on size or such.  I use mini-dinstall and I've done this, it works most of the time.  But this is going off a question not asked, I imagine OFTC/#debian-apt might be *the* best place.