[00:15] <mhall119> zoopster: what help do you need?
[00:15] <zoopster> heh...lots
[00:16] <zoopster> my simple little program can stream the data easy enough, but I don't know how to pluck out what I want from the stream
[00:17] <zoopster> I haven't looked that hard either...
[00:18] <ropetin> Piping it through sed and/or awk?
[00:18] <ropetin> If in doubt throw a regex at it
[00:20] <zoopster> so here's the stream...http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/683961/ I want to pluck out everything starting with $UMSCM, 61643840 in real time and either graph it or throw it in a log file
[00:20] <zoopster> ooh...maybe I can continuously log it and act on the log
[00:20] <zoopster> hmmm
[00:47] <MichelleQ> are we still supposed to have a meeting tonight?  itnet7?  anyone?
[00:48] <mhall119> zoopster: can you read it one line at a time?
[00:49] <mhall119> if so, it'll be easy enough to split it on commas
[00:50] <itnet7> yes
[00:50] <itnet7> MichelleQ: @ 9
[00:51] <mhall119> zoopster: let me see what I can throw together for you
[00:55] <ropetin> First meeting I've been to in years starts in 6 minutes.  What's the betting the kid wakes up in 5 minutes?
[00:56] <itnet7> lol ropetin :-)
[00:58] <dantalizing> even money
[00:58] <itnet7> Morning dantalizing !
[00:59] <dantalizing> morning
[00:59] <X-Man> evening
[00:59] <ropetin> I hear a few whines on the monitor so I could be lucky and at least make it to 9:01
[00:59] <itnet7> lol
[01:00] <ropetin> He IS sleeping with his little stuffed Tux though, so maybe that'll help
[01:00] <itnet7> Alright, Let's get this meeting started
[01:00] <itnet7> X-man, you may need to go first, bluebomber seems to be running a little behind
[01:00] <itnet7> in joining us
[01:01] <itnet7> mhall119: pretty much the LD will put up the "minutes" or the time we're holding the meeting now right? So I won't re-invite mootbot
[01:01] <X-Man> itnet7,  OK gime a sec
[01:01] <itnet7> no problem
[01:02] <cjohnston> itnet7: not that im aware of.. it will provide a link to the log, but not minutes afaik
[01:03] <itnet7> cjohnston: Yeah, but it's formatted pretty well and alot more legible than just a standard irclog
[01:03] <cjohnston> ok
[01:03] <cjohnston> jcastro: wake up.. team heeting.. lol
[01:03] <cjohnston> team meeting too
[01:03] <itnet7> Here is a link to the Agenda: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-florida/193/detail/
[01:04] <X-Man> itnet7,  is it ok for me to go now?
[01:04] <itnet7> surely
[01:04] <X-Man> Hi everyone
[01:04] <itnet7> Hey there!
[01:05] <mhall119> I'm here
[01:05] <X-Man> I thought of an idea for the upcoming UDS welcome party and I e-mailed the Florida loco team a minute ago
[01:05] <mhall119> itnet7: LD just links to the irclogs and mootbot files
[01:05] <X-Man> I wanted to throw the idea to the team of a hawaiian welcome party
[01:06] <mhall119> itnet7: so you still need mootbot if you want minutes
[01:06] <X-Man> and wanted to get any feed from the team members
[01:06] <itnet7> thanks mhall119 !
[01:07] <dantalizing> thats kinda general .. do you have specifics X-Man ?
[01:07] <X-Man> Are we still up for doing another welcome party like last yeat
[01:07] <itnet7> X-man, It seems like it would be pretty fun
[01:07] <itnet7> UDS Hawaiian Luau Welcome Party
[01:07] <itnet7> Hand out Hawaiian Lei's to welcome UDS guests
[01:07] <itnet7> Limbo Contest
[01:07] <itnet7> Loudest Hawaiian Shirt Contest
[01:07] <itnet7> Grass Skirt Dance Contest
[01:07] <itnet7> Hulu Hoop Contest
[01:08] <itnet7> DJ with some Hawaiin Music
[01:08] <X-Man> I just wanted to get feedback and see if the team like the idea and I could investigate further
[01:08] <mhall119> but we ain't hawaii
[01:09] <ropetin> New guy here, but have we had any other suggestions to compare it again?  Would a Florida theme be better?
[01:09] <itnet7> I guess we can rent shotguns and Airboats
[01:09] <ropetin> Sort of Key West something?
[01:09] <itnet7> :-)
[01:09] <mhall119> itnet7: +1
[01:09] <X-Man> it is just a theme, but we can make it our own
[01:09] <dantalizing> lol @ itnet7
[01:09] <ropetin> itnet7: that is north florida ony!
[01:09] <ropetin> only
[01:09] <itnet7> lol
[01:09] <mhall119> yeah, redneck areas like Gainesville
[01:09] <itnet7> Hey there ghuru !
[01:09] <X-Man> It could be a florida tropical party
[01:10] <cjohnston> itnet7: +2
[01:10] <cjohnston> ropetin: im in orlando and that sounds right to me
[01:10] <mhall119> keep in mine that Monday is Halloween
[01:10] <dantalizing> hey.........
[01:10] <ropetin> X-Man: that sounds better, can still do most of the same things, just lose the Leis
[01:10] <ghuru> hey all
[01:10] <X-Man> Since this is my first UDS, I wanted to do something fub
[01:10] <itnet7> We can do a Hurricane Party theme, but hopefully without the actual storm and power outtages
[01:10] <mhall119> there's a good chance Canonical will be throwing some kind of halloween party Monday night
[01:10] <X-Man> *fun
[01:10] <dantalizing> we all want to do somethign fub
[01:10] <cjohnston> itnet7: do we have any idea what night is available for this?
[01:11] <X-Man> I thought monday night like last year
[01:11] <itnet7> cjohnston: No, with all the changes and vendors they might not even have an open night
[01:11] <itnet7> I was going to ask Marianna
[01:11] <cjohnston> ok
[01:13] <X-Man> That what I have so far
[01:13] <itnet7> Let me see if I can ask what has already been planned
[01:13] <X-Man> someelse suggested trick or treat
[01:13] <Chloric> sorry im late
[01:13] <itnet7> hey there chloric!
[01:13] <Chloric> Hey itnet!
[01:13] <X-Man> Hi Chloric
[01:13] <itnet7> X-Man: I will check with Marianna and see if most nights are already filled, then we can try to come up with a plan
[01:14] <itnet7> if there is a free night!
[01:14] <itnet7> If they do have a Halloween/costume party is everyone planning to attend and dress up?
[01:14] <X-Man> not me
[01:14] <dantalizing> gnope
[01:14] <ghuru> halloween party?
[01:14] <Chloric> I'll dress up
[01:15] <bluebomber> X-(
[01:15] <itnet7> I am going to dress up if they do :-)
[01:15] <bluebomber> I mean, "hi, all."
[01:15] <mhall119> don't forget also that we're planning on having a loco team party the saturday after UDS
[01:15] <itnet7> +1 mhall119 !!
[01:15] <mhall119> so I'm not sure how much MichelleQ and I will be able to help out with a welcoming party too
[01:16] <X-Man> maybe we should find out if there are any free day first, before we planning anything
[01:16] <mhall119> +1
[01:16] <itnet7> +1 X-Man, we'll try to find out as soon as possible
[01:17] <itnet7> bluebomber was having some connectivity issues, but he's here with us now, X-man went first, are you ready to talk about your first agenda item?
[01:17] <Chloric> What city will this be held?
[01:18] <itnet7> Chloric: Orlando
[01:18] <Chloric> Oh ok
[01:18] <itnet7> or did you mean the loco party?
[01:18] <itnet7> Lakeland
[01:18] <Chloric> Yeah
[01:18] <Chloric> Oh ok, thanks
[01:18] <mhall119> loco party is about 30 minutes west of the UDS venue
[01:19] <bluebomber> Software Freedom Day? Sure.
[01:19] <itnet7> X-man, Thanks have anything else you'd like to add?
[01:19] <dantalizing> unless you have an airboat and a shotgun, then its only 15 mins west
[01:19] <X-Man> itnet7, I'm good for now
[01:19] <itnet7> cool
[01:20] <mhall119> dantalizing: the gators slow you down
[01:20] <mhall119> if the pythons don't get you first that is
[01:20] <itnet7> go ahead bluebomber, whenever you're ready
[01:20] <MichelleQ> oh, hhm, hello, I'm here.
[01:20] <mhall119> gotcha covered MichelleQ
[01:20] <itnet7> Hey there MichelleQ !
[01:20] <bluebomber> Alright, hey everyone. I wanted to know what ideas you might have about doing something to celebrate Software Freedom Day.
[01:21] <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1258/detail/
[01:21] <itnet7> bluebomber: are you planning an event up your way?
[01:21] <dantalizing> we're past the packet request date, no?
[01:21] <bluebomber> I have been speaking the last few days with the president of USF's Free Culture (http://freeculture.org/) student organization president, who is also interested in doing something.
[01:21] <ropetin> Anything planned for down south?
[01:22] <mhall119> bluebomber: is that Prof. Gaspar?
[01:22] <bluebomber> So, there's interest in the Tampa Bay area, especially near USF ;-).
[01:22] <mhall119> zoopster: ^^ might be interested
[01:22] <bluebomber> No, but I know of Professor Gaspar. He teaches in the Lakeland Polytech campus.
[01:22] <itnet7> dantalizing: I didn't even know about packet requests for SFD
[01:23] <bluebomber> dantalizing, itnet7: I didn't either.
[01:23] <mhall119> dantalizing: for Ubuntu conference packs?
[01:23] <dantalizing> http://softwarefreedomday.org/en/blog/165-sfd2011-schwag-sent
[01:23] <bluebomber> We still have leftover Natty CDs, so would there be interest from this LoCo in doing a collaborative installfest?
[01:24] <bluebomber> mhall119: I worked indirectly with Dr. Gaspar for two semesters ;)
[01:24] <bluebomber> mhall119: How do you know him?
[01:25] <mhall119> bluebomber: cool, he's the best one I had
[01:25] <mhall119> took a couple of his classes last year
[01:25] <itnet7> dantalizing: that's pretty cool.... bluebomber maybe you can e-mail the list, it's Saturday the 17th this year
[01:25] <bluebomber> mhall119: Yeah, he wants to move our project to svn, despite my protests. I like my git.
[01:25] <mhall119> git, bzr or hg
[01:25] <mhall119> there's no excuse for using svn anymore
[01:26] <dantalizing> +1 mhall119
[01:27] <itnet7> bluebomber: If you mail the list you may get a few more people interested in helping with a collaborative installfest
[01:27] <bluebomber> itnet7: I see. Thanks.
[01:27] <mhall119> bluebomber: you can probably also get interest from the student body of there
[01:27] <dantalizing> where are you bluebomber ?
[01:27] <dantalizing> orlando?
[01:27] <itnet7> If I am not on call that week, and you're definitely doing it, I may come visit and help out
[01:27] <bluebomber> I'm pretty much talking now with people from central and south Florida, right?
[01:27] <bluebomber> dantalizing: Tampa.
[01:27] <mhall119> bluebomber: all over
[01:28] <ropetin> I'd like to help out with anything in Broward/Dade
[01:28] <ghuru> ropetin, im down
[01:29] <dantalizing> there is an sfd registered in ft. lauderdale it looks like
[01:29] <dantalizing> FLUX
[01:29] <ropetin> Excellent, do we have a defacto organizer down here?
[01:29] <dantalizing> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/USA/FL/BrowardCounty/FLUX
[01:29] <mhall119> ropetin: you
[01:29] <ropetin> Ahhh, yeah, I've E-mailed them a couple of times about other things, but never got much response
[01:29] <ghuru> ropetin, i met you at a loco meeting in Ft. Lauderdale
[01:29] <ropetin> mhall119: yeah, the 6 week old in the next room doesn't really allow for that :)
[01:29] <ropetin> ghuru: I remember!
[01:29] <mhall119> if anybody is doing an event, please register it on http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1258/detail/
[01:29] <itnet7> Last year I took a bunch of CDs and visited two SFD events, one with FLUX and I forget the other one, but I handed out Ubuntu Stickers and CD's. There wasn't public connectivity on either campus, so no installfest
[01:29] <Chloric> MIA here
[01:29] <ghuru> like 9months-1 year ago
[01:30] <ghuru> i doubt the FLUX guys are down
[01:30] <mhall119> ropetin: it isn't going to get any easier in the next 7 months, let me tell you
[01:30] <itnet7> ghuru: that was at the coffee shop, with mudsplatter
[01:30] <ropetin> Who do we have from South Florida these days?
[01:30] <itnet7> lol
[01:30] <ghuru> but i know a lug in FIU, these guys are down for everythang
[01:30] <mhall119> s/7 months/7 years/
[01:30] <ghuru> mudsplatter, lol
[01:30] <ghuru> sup with that guy anyways
[01:30] <ropetin> You HAD to mention that name didn't you itnet7?  I had only just erased it from my memory banks
[01:31] <mhall119> oh hell
[01:31] <itnet7> ghuru: I think that might have been one of the events I went to
[01:31] <mhall119> there's a name I hadn't thought of in ages
[01:31] <itnet7> ROFL
[01:31] <ropetin> itnet7: it was
[01:31] <itnet7> Sorry Ropetin, I wish I could
[01:31] <bluebomber> ropetin: If you capitalize 'South' then, yes, I'm here.
[01:31] <itnet7> lol
[01:32] <Chloric> I think all Linux groups in SFL are no longer active... I've tried contacting them on several occasions
[01:32] <ropetin> So in Broward/Dade/PBC we have me, ghuru, anoyone else?
[01:32] <ghuru> itnet7, how are you bud?
[01:32] <ropetin> Chloric: +1 to that
[01:32] <ghuru> itnet7, is in our area!
[01:32] <dantalizing> ropetin: reya276 is down there, jcastro too
[01:32] <itnet7> it would really be cool to see if there was a way to reserve one of those rooms at the Library we went to Chloric, and maybe do some installfest type stuff
[01:32] <mhall119> yeah, jcastro needs to go to an event
[01:32] <itnet7> ghuru:  I visited often, but I'm from Melbourne
[01:33] <ropetin> Would he be willing to organize?
[01:33] <dantalizing> unlikely ... he seems busy
[01:33] <ropetin> Ngh, looks like it is you then ghuru
[01:33] <ropetin> ....
[01:33] <bluebomber> Anyone other than zoopster from the bay area (Tampa, St. Pete, Manatee Co., Hernando/Pasco Co.)?
[01:33] <ghuru> ropetin, is this party for the new release or some kind of halloween party?
[01:33] <mhall119> has Catsceo been around?
[01:34] <ropetin> SFD right?
[01:34] <itnet7> There are a couple of people on our team, that also belong to the Meetup group
[01:34] <mhall119> oh yeah, forgot about that
[01:34] <dantalizing> his cat peed on his mac again and this time it fried
[01:34] <mhall119> bluebomber: there's a tampa linux meetup group
[01:34] <itnet7> ghuru: the Halloween party is going to potentially take place during UDS
[01:34] <mhall119> dantalizing: ew
[01:34] <mhall119> though to be fair, the cat had the right idea
[01:35] <itnet7> dantalizing: that is one awesome cat!!
[01:35] <itnet7> :-P
[01:35] <mhall119> iPeed
[01:35] <dantalizing> +1
[01:35] <itnet7> someone should have given the kitty a natty cd
[01:35] <mhall119> Oneiric for the kitty
[01:35] <ropetin> bluebomber: if you post something about an installfest I'll respond something for Broward/Dade?
[01:36] <itnet7> Man, isn't Oneiric shaping up nicely?!!??!!
[01:36] <mhall119> bluebomber: http://www.meetup.com/Tampa-Linux/
[01:36] <bluebomber> ropetin: I don't understand. Are you asking me a question?
[01:36] <mhall119> zoopster can help you register an event through that
[01:36] <bluebomber> mhall: Thanks. itnet7: I move to close the USF SFD topic.
[01:36] <itnet7> ropetin: remember erictee, reya, and stickystyle are still down there
[01:36] <ropetin> True, so there are a lot of people down here
[01:37] <itnet7> bluebomber: let me know what you plan, I might make a roadtrip if it will help out
[01:37] <itnet7> next agenda item?
[01:37] <bluebomber> Can you go to someone else's item and come back to mine?
[01:38] <itnet7> Well, we can talk about few other things until you're ready
[01:38] <ghuru> ropetin, http://plug.cs.fiu.edu/
[01:38] <ghuru> i can talk to the guy in charge, he is a professor of mine
[01:38] <ropetin> Cool, sounds good
[01:39] <itnet7> I am sure that Govatent would help out with the event, if he has the time
[01:39] <ghuru> oh i remember gocatent from FLS
[01:40] <ghuru> cool guy, never got his contact though
[01:40] <bluebomber> k
[01:40] <itnet7> bluebomber: You're ready theN?
[01:41] <bluebomber> Sure.
[01:41] <itnet7> Sorry family stuff is going on in the background, go for it
[01:41] <bluebomber> As the agenda item says, would there be any interest in doing an oneiric launch party on the gulf coast?
[01:43] <bluebomber> <jeopardy music/>
[01:43] <dantalizing> if by "doing" you mean "attending" then, yes
[01:43] <itnet7> bluebomber: I think that would rock personally, zoopster would more than likely be also interested I'm sure
[01:43] <dantalizing> yeah ... damn the interest ... just do it
[01:44] <bluebomber> dantalizing, itnet7: Great. We have lots of resources here at USF.
[01:44] <itnet7> I am sure that Sylentdogg and his pops would come
[01:44] <bluebomber> It doesn't have to be at USF. We do have Paneras over here, too!
[01:45] <bluebomber> But I would suggest having it at USF ;)
[01:45] <mhall119> bluebomber: yeah, but power outlets are at a premium there
[01:45] <mhall119> but, parking is literally at a premium on campus
[01:45] <mhall119> how is parking on weekends?
[01:45] <bluebomber> mhall119: Yes, it can be, you're right.
[01:46] <bluebomber> mhall119: Same as on weekdays. I think it's up to $4 for a daily visitor pass now. You can feed a meter, if you want, but I think that will be more expensive if you're talking about whole afternoon.
[01:46] <mhall119> bluebomber: there was a library off Fletcher we used several times, they had a nice big room in the front you could use if you reserved it ahead of time
[01:47] <bluebomber> mhall119: I have no idea what library that could be.
[01:47] <itnet7> Yeah, that library was cool
[01:47] <itnet7> so was that coffee shop!!
[01:47] <mhall119> at least I think it was Fletcher, maybe it was Bears
[01:47] <mhall119> itnet7: which coffee shop?
[01:48] <bluebomber> Affiliated with USF?
[01:48] <mhall119> bluebomber: no, city or county library
[01:48] <itnet7> I am not sure whether or not it was a meetup or a release party, They had FIOS and it was extremely fast
[01:48] <mhall119> further down, almost to Dale Mabry
[01:48] <mhall119> itnet7: hmmm, I must not have been to that one
[01:48] <MichelleQ> It was ...  Hang on.
[01:49] <bluebomber> This: http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=13016860868577199296&q=library&hl=en&ved=0CG4Q-gswBA&sa=X&ei=Is1mTq3NB5DkygTM6tynCA
[01:49] <bluebomber> ?
[01:49] <mhall119> itnet7: wait, do you mean First Watch, the restaurant?
[01:49] <mhall119> that one wasn't bad
[01:49] <MichelleQ> the Jimmie B. Keel regional library
[01:49] <MichelleQ> v
[01:49] <MichelleQ> http://www.hcplc.org/hcplc/locations/jbk/
[01:49] <itnet7> Oh, I'm not sure now either :-)
[01:50] <mhall119> bluebomber: yup
[01:50] <mhall119> Bears then
[01:50] <itnet7> Well, let's try to come up with some ideas, please make sure you add them to the LD, so that if others can, they'll attend
[01:52] <dantalizing> ok gn all ... off to walk the dog
[01:53] <bluebomber> Goodnight, dantalizing.
[01:53] <itnet7> gnight dantalizing !
[01:53] <mhall119> g'night dantalizing
[01:53] <bluebomber> itnet7: LD? (my acronym-fu starts failing around 2100)
[01:53] <itnet7> Loco Directory
[01:53] <mhall119> LoCo Directory (http://loco.ubuntu.com)
[01:54] <mhall119> there's a global event for SFD that we should add our team events to: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1258/detail/
[01:54] <mhall119> and also one for Ubuntu 11.10 release parties: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1186/detail/
[01:56] <bluebomber> mhall119: Yes, good point.
[01:56] <itnet7> Thanks bluebomber and X-Man for your agenda items
[01:56] <X-Man> What day is Ubuntu 11.10  released
[01:57] <bluebomber> mhall119: Why haven't we added our launch parties to it yet?
[01:59] <bluebomber> X-Man: 10-13-2011, IIRC
[01:59] <X-Man> thanks bluebomber
[01:59] <mhall119> bluebomber: we don't have any scheduled yet
[02:00] <bluebomber> mhall119: ...let's schedule one, then.
[02:00] <mhall119> bluebomber: we have http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/1084/detail/
[02:01] <mhall119> but it's not specifically a release party
[02:01] <bluebomber> We like parties, don't we?
[02:02] <bluebomber> Do you think we'll have release parties?
[02:02] <mhall119> heck yeah
[02:02] <mhall119> probably
[02:02] <mhall119> the loco part isn't going to be too long after the release
[02:02] <mhall119> we can probably call it a release party
[02:02] <mhall119> in fact, I'll do just that
[02:03] <mhall119> done
[02:03] <itnet7> X-Man: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[02:03] <itnet7> sorry about that, my session barfed on me
[02:03] <itnet7> mhall119: +1
[02:03] <mhall119> if anybody is coming to the LoCo party after UDS please register so we know how many to feed: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/1084/detail/
[02:04] <itnet7> bluebomber: We're more than likely going to have one over here at Pizza Gallery
[02:04] <itnet7> I will add when I confirm the room
[02:04] <mhall119> I wonder if jimmah is gonna come to the loco party
[02:05] <mhall119> has anyone seen him lately?
[02:05] <itnet7> mhall119: I only talked to him briefly the other day
[02:06] <itnet7> I'm sure he wouldn't miss it
[02:06] <mhall119> itnet7: more recently than me, how's he doing?
[02:06] <mhall119> I hope he doesn't it's just not a party without dj pak33m
[02:06] <itnet7> he said hew as doing well, and all
[02:06] <itnet7> Right!
[02:07] <itnet7> he is usually on IM, I'll see if I can find out what he's up to
[02:07] <X-Man> mhall119, Is it possible to come a little earlier for the Loco party
[02:07] <itnet7> at work tomorrow
[02:09] <MichelleQ> X-Man: sure, come early.  is cool.
[02:10] <mhall119> X-Man: I expect we'll have several people who stay in Orlando for UDS just coming by whenever they get up and going
[02:10] <mhall119> so as long as you don't mind my PJs, it's cool
[02:12] <X-Man> sure it is all good
[02:12] <X-Man> I'm leaving orlando and I want to swing by before going back to tallahassee
[02:14] <bluebomber> Alright all, I'm signing off for the night. I have an early meeting with a USF event planner for yet some other IEEECS event...
[02:14] <bluebomber> Nice meeting. Take care, all.
[02:14] <itnet7> good luck bluebomber
[02:14] <itnet7> gnight!
[02:16] <X-Man> Night all
[02:18] <mhall119> night all
[02:18]  * mhall119 is off to do homework
[02:18] <itnet7> gnight mhall119 and MichelleQ !
[02:18] <itnet7> I'm out as well
[02:38] <MichelleQ> night everyone
[16:02] <zoopster> sorry for missing the meeting itnet7 I was called away
[17:00] <ropetin>  Bounce bounce!
[17:42] <munz> exit
[17:42] <munz> lol wrong window
[17:44] <ropetin> At least it wasn't your password :)
[17:48] <itnet7> +1
[17:49] <ropetin> I can't count the number of timmes I've done that in IM or irc windows at work.  It got so bad that I changed my password to 'morning guys, hope you are all OK'
[17:49] <itnet7> lol
[17:52] <mhall119> lol
[17:55] <itnet7> mmetting time, bbiab
[18:05] <jcastro> hey cjohnston
[18:05] <jcastro> or mhall119
[18:12] <mhall119> hey jcastro
[18:17] <cjohnston> sup
[18:19] <jcastro> how close are you guys respectively to the UDS hotel?
[18:20] <cjohnston> 35 minutes
[18:20] <cjohnston> I think almost the same for mhall119
[18:21] <jcastro> ok I got a mail from this guy reuben scwhartz, who wants to stop by UDS for a day but needs a ride. I recommended the Friday, anyway, I'll have a car on Friday but might not for any other day
[18:21] <jcastro> I was wondering if we could see about picking the guy up depending on where he lives, etc.
[18:28] <maxolasersquad> What's the deal on the Suite?  Are we getting one this year?
[18:30] <mhall119> jcastro: are you commuting the whole week?
[18:36] <jcastro> no I am hitching a ride with RoAkSoAx
[18:38] <mhall119> but you're both staying at the hotel during the week, right?


[00:55] <scientes> Lord-Kamina, generally you can just install it without rebuilding (building the linux kernel with all the modules takes a while)
[00:55] <scientes> Lord-Kamina, and linux have very good binary compatibility, so yes
[00:56] <scientes> oh, that was a long time ago
[01:55] <Lord-Kamina> scientes, thanks anyway. In the end it didn't really work out beh eh.
[02:49] <scientes> Lord-Kamina, why do you need a newer kernel?
[02:49] <scientes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[15:22] <tomreyn> how would i report a bug against the 18.04(.1) release notes? It should mention that Xorg logs may now go to ~/.local/share/xorg/ and under which circumstancers they will (not). i think some other processes - gdm, lightdm, sddm (i think?), maybe this is only with UMS, or with KMS, please clarify - which used to log to /var/log may also log to the users' home now. this would be quite relevant for people migrating / upgrading from 16.04.
[15:23] <tomreyn> x.org vs wayland may also matter for the log location, and if so, this should be discussed, too.
[15:27] <rbasak> tomreyn: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes -> Report a bug
[15:27] <rbasak> tomreyn: though you might need to raise it with the desktop team to get it agreed/actioned
[15:28] <rbasak> tomreyn: but by all means file the bug, since that will give everyone a coordination point. Then ask #ubuntu-desktop and/or the ubuntu-desktop mailing list.
[15:29] <rbasak> (Since we can't put _every_ change in the release notes, we should probably defer to the desktop team to decide what should go in from the desktop side)
[15:33] <tomreyn> rbasak: how would i "raise it with the desktop team (to get it agreed/actioned)"?
[15:33] <tomreyn> oh, you said so
[15:33] <tomreyn> thanks#
[15:58] <tomreyn> this is bug 1786701
[16:18] <Lord-Kamina> scientes, it was mostly a futile effort really... I had backported some packages from bionic over to trusty and in the process hit some Breaks and was trying to get them to work, but hit a wall when I realized one of the things I needed to port required a newer linux-libc-dev


[00:16] <tomreyn> finally, the miracle is solved! ;-)  https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/ut3eht/what_is_the_purpose_of_ubuntu_ubuntu_ubuntu/
[00:16] <tomreyn> err, not solved, more like revealed
[00:17] <sarnold> lol my favourite "When I get a new disk drive, I copy the old stuff onto the new into a folder called backup. So I have a /backup/backup/backup/backup/.../backup. Maybe they have done this with their versions"
[00:21] <tomreyn> :)


 Taking the train back home from fosdem
[20:17] <ducasse> ah, how was it?
[20:18] <lordievader> It was fun :)
[20:18] <Bashing-om> ducasse: OH - great for me .. All in my world is percolating right on along :)
[20:20] <ducasse> lordievader: these things usually are :)
[20:22] <ducasse> Bashing-om: here too, been a busy weekend though. now i've sat down with some tea to catch up on stuff.
[20:23] <ducasse> Bashing-om: also want to fix a couple of things i'm not happy with in my i3 config, can't quite stop fiddling with it :)
[20:24] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Uh Huh .. 'bout done with my wake-up-get-started coffee . Things now straightened out and priorities set for the time being :)
[20:25] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Me still with xfce as the prefered environment . Installed 17.04 though .. and gnome3 looks interesting .
[20:27] <ducasse> Bashing-om: still not moved to zesty, although i've grabbed a few packages from it. never did like gnome3, but i might not have given it a fighting chance...
[20:30] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Well .. My intro to 'buntu as real use case was (k)ubuntu 9.04 . with 10.04 I went to ubuntu is the distro ( too much eye candy for my taste ) with 12.04 and unity .. did not fit my use cases - or my mind set .. and I found xfce4 .. been xfce ever since .
[20:36] <ducasse> Bashing-om: i used xfce for a looong time, but found a tiling wm is just so much nicer after testing it on my laptop. originally just wanted it to save screen space on a small screen, but i3 is really fast and nice to use.
[20:40] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Not seen i3, but all I hear and read about it is good . may prpmpt my curiosity to have a good look at it .
[20:44] <ducasse> Bashing-om: it takes a little getting used to, but once you learn the basic keybindings and get it set up to your liking it's excellent. especially nice is that you can do things via ipc that most other wms just can't do.
[20:48] <Bashing-om> Well .. my needs are generally very simple ; terminal does most of what I desire and a GUI just is no longer that important . What I do look for in that GUI is simplicity to configure .
[20:50] <ducasse> most of the stuff i use runs in terminals too, except the browser and a couple of other things. i3 is easy to configure imo, but does require editing the config file. there's no pointy clicky thing.
[20:52] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Right up my alley .. may just have to now fire it up and give it a test run :)
[20:55] <ducasse> have fun :) very easy to get going on ubuntu. default keybining for a new terminal is mod+enter, mod+d for dmenu. there's a map of bindings in the userguide - http://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html#_default_keybindings
[21:01] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Support for multi work spaces ? I generally run 3 - sometimes 2 alternate displays .
[21:03] <ducasse> Bashing-om: yes, and the good thing about it is that it handles it properly, unlike the various desktop envs. i have 3 screens myself, and workspaces are handled independently.
[21:04] <Bashing-om> ducasse: You just may hav a convert on your hands !
[21:05] <ducasse> Bashing-om: :) the only other wm i found that handles this the way i want is enlightenment, and that had some major issues of its own.
[21:06] <ducasse> Bashing-om: be careful, though, you can spend eternity mucking about with the i3 config :)
[21:19] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Yeah ! A quck look through the guide .. never ending configs .


[19:36] <gQuigs> bdmurray: re: https://code.launchpad.net/~bryanquigley/whoopsie/whoopsie-fix/+merge/309492  with no active identifier tests, do you think it make sense to switch to systemds machine id instead?
[19:39] <gQuigs> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/machine-id.html
[19:40] <gQuigs> the negative would it wouldn't be motherboard determined, but it might be better in other cases
[19:58] <gQuigs> reading more on machine-id says they want to keep it private for some reason.. so I guess my patch stands..  do you want me to reset users with dpkg postinst script?