[16:49] <teward> sergiodj: RE: comment on 1909816 - "This way, if they fix it in Debian, Ubuntu will automatically pick up the change." ... in a later release of Ubuntu
[16:49] <teward> sorry i'm nitpicky but people don't understand how things get versionlocked at release time for the most part
[16:49] <teward> (and i've had my fair share of... 'users who don't understand'... on Ask Ubuntu)
[17:05] <asenm> Hello, folks! I'm sending mails with sendgrid however sendgrid exposes my mail server ip in the headers can I somehow hide that or change that using some proxy like nginx?
[17:07] <daftykins> for a lot of verification technologies you need to leave it known and verifiable really, but there are a lot of proxy services that you could send via instead if you want to mask it to some extent
[17:07] <daftykins> for example, i have clients using a Google Workspace platform for their email, but for IT systems outgoing email, i have a server set up with sendmail that's authorised to send out via Google, so then it appears to all be from Google
[17:08] <daftykins> i'm not familiar with sendgrid though
[17:37] <sergiodj> teward: thanks, that's a good point.  I've now clarified my comment there
[18:27] <teward> asenm: that's a Sendgrid question.  The only way to not expose it is to use their API to submit instead of SMTP relay to them, I believe.
[18:27] <teward> sergiodj: yep.  sorry for being nitpicky :)
[18:28] <sergiodj> teward: no problem!  thanks for tip :)
[18:28] <teward> yep.
[18:28] <teward> sergiodj: the other thing I would point out is that this isn't typically the kind of thing that warrants an SRU on its own, so that would be something that gets included in another update alongside a larger fix or something
[18:28] <teward> my 2 cents
[18:28] <teward> since there's a very simple workaround as you stated.
[18:28] <teward> (just in the list of triage chaos :P)
[18:29] <sergiodj> teward: agreed, that's why I marked it as low priority
[18:29] <teward> yep yep 👍
[18:29] <sergiodj> awesome :)


[03:31] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1206371] kwin is not starting: cannot find libwayland-egl.so.1 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206371 (by Chupligin Sergey)
[05:19] <Tm_T> Riddell: great thing with donations (:
[06:11] <smartboyhw> Anyone here doing calligra?
[06:13] <ScottK> You apparently.  Please not there are unreleased changes in bzr.
[06:14] <smartboyhw> ScottK, again:( Alright...
[06:17] <smartboyhw> kubotu: newversion calligra 2.7.2
[06:17] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1214256
[06:18] <ScottK> I think Riddell already did one of those.  Check.
[06:18] <smartboyhw> ScottK, you mean, calligra?
[06:19] <smartboyhw> Marking as dup then
[07:12] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: o_o
[07:12] <tsdgeos> ?
[07:12] <shadeslayer> kwin not starting
[07:13] <smartboyhw> o_o
[07:13] <tsdgeos> ah
[07:13] <shadeslayer> works fine here on saucy
[07:14] <tsdgeos> shadeslayer: just read the log ;-P
[07:15] <shadeslayer> last message I see is <tsdgeos> Riddell: ↑↑↑↑
[07:16] <shadeslayer> what a lazy Tuesday morning
[07:16] <tsdgeos> ah you left
[07:17] <Peace-> mmm after upgrade i have a problem with digital clock widget
[07:17] <Peace-> some one can try to add the widget to a panel ?
[07:17] <tsdgeos> shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/~tsdgeos/pe0c7bcb1/
[07:17] <Peace-> it seems unknow now to plasma
[07:18] <shadeslayer> ah libhybris
[07:18] <shadeslayer> funsies
[07:19] <shadeslayer> Peace-: wfm
[07:19] <Peace-> mm
[07:20] <Peace-> shadeslayer: tx
[07:58] <smartboyhw> !search
[07:58] <soee> good morning
[07:59] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, how to find a file in a package using ubottu?
[07:59] <smartboyhw> I forgotten
[07:59] <shadeslayer> !find kdelibs5.so
[08:00] <smartboyhw> !find ucred.h
[08:00] <smartboyhw> !find system/ucred.h
[08:00] <smartboyhw> Eh hum
[08:01] <smartboyhw> !find ucred.h saucy
[08:47] <smartboyhw> kubotu: newversion calligra-l10n 2.7.2
[08:47] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1214298
[09:02] <smartboyhw> Anyone can review calligra and calligra-l10n existing in smartboyhw/packaging-staging-1 PPA?
[09:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: uhm, did we not take into account the HWE stack for 4.11?
[09:12] <shadeslayer> because installing the HWE stack removes kde-window-manager on precise
[09:13] <shadeslayer> ( with 4.11 )
[09:14] <yofel> I saw that, and I don't know why it happens :/
[09:14] <smartboyhw> :/
[09:14] <shadeslayer> :S
[09:15] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, the kernel stack or the graphics stack?
[09:15] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: both
[09:15] <shadeslayer> well
[09:15] <smartboyhw> BOTH!?
[09:15] <shadeslayer> kernel doesn't remove kde-window-manager
[09:15] <yofel> smartboyhw: you can't seperate those
[09:15]  * smartboyhw thought it's xorg
[09:15] <yofel> because running mixed X and kernel stacks is unsupported
[09:15] <smartboyhw> yofel, oh really?
[09:15] <yofel> yes
[09:15]  * smartboyhw checks anyway
[09:16] <yofel> it'll be mesa that's the problem
[09:16] <yofel> that's the only thing kwin uses
[09:16] <shadeslayer> yes
[09:16] <shadeslayer> I think it depends on the regular mesa package
[09:16] <shadeslayer> and that conflicts with the HWE one
[09:17] <shadeslayer> and then apt decides to remove kde-window-manager to solve it
[09:17] <shadeslayer> hm
[09:17] <shadeslayer> yofel: doesn't happen on regular precise
[09:17] <shadeslayer> oh
[09:17] <shadeslayer> thats why
[09:18] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/pbb42ec51/
[09:18] <shadeslayer> lines 4 through 11
[09:18] <yofel> looks correct to me
[09:19] <shadeslayer> no, I mean that's from 4.8.5
[09:19] <shadeslayer> and someone manually added the deps?
[09:19] <yofel> no, mesa shlibs does that I think
[09:19] <yofel> or something like that
[09:20] <yofel> wait, libgl1 is virtual I think
[09:22] <shadeslayer> I am completely unsure how this works :S
[09:24] <yofel> every mesa package provides libgl1, so you can switch them out as you want
[09:24] <yofel> the only thing you need to work out is apt's resolver behaviour
[09:25] <shadeslayer> so why is it that our PPA packages don't depend on the lts packages
[09:25] <yofel> because the lts package have the exact same shlibs depends as the archive packages
[09:25] <yofel> so nothing's different
[09:30]  * Riddell gets onto plasma-mediacentre 1.1 for the announcement
[09:33] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/p974ec6dd/ is what I have on my precise machine
[09:34] <shadeslayer> line 137
[09:37] <yofel> shadeslayer: what exactly are you installing?
[09:37] <shadeslayer> linux-generic-lts-raring xserver-xorg-lts-raring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-raring ?
[09:42] <yofel> add at least egl to that
[09:43] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/p2e68d6e4/
[09:44] <shadeslayer> I think it's because might not be virtual?
[09:45] <shadeslayer> kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ apt-cache depends kde-window-manager | grep libgles2
[09:45] <shadeslayer>  |Depends: libgles2-mesa
[09:45] <shadeslayer>   Depends: <libgles2>
[09:45] <shadeslayer>     libgles2-mesa
[09:45] <shadeslayer>     libgles2-mesa-lts-quantal
[09:45] <shadeslayer>     libgles2-mesa-lts-raring
[09:45] <shadeslayer> argh
[09:45] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/pf4eea78b/
[09:45] <shadeslayer> *because  libgles2-mesa might not be virtual
[09:46] <shadeslayer> yeah
[09:46] <shadeslayer> this line works
[09:47] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/p2a27cf42/
[09:48] <shadeslayer> can you try that in your VM >
[09:48] <shadeslayer> ?
[09:57] <yofel> don't have it here, will try it later
[10:01] <shadeslayer> okay
[10:01]  * shadeslayer is trying in his own VM before trying out on the desktop
[10:01] <jmux> shadeslayer: I've seen this update problem to. Installing the missing lts-raring dependencies fixes the problem.
[10:01] <shadeslayer> but it'll take a good hour
[10:02] <shadeslayer> jmux: I see, cool, then I can relpy on the devel mailing list
[10:02] <jmux> If I just install with lts-raring packages I don't have any problems.
[10:02] <shadeslayer> oh
[10:03] <jmux> Just can't remember which packages were actually missing, as my repository just contains the lts-raring packages.
[10:03] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-raring xserver-xorg-lts-raring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-raring libegl1-mesa-lts-raring libgles2-mesa-lts-raring
[10:03] <shadeslayer> s/raring/quantal/
[10:03] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-lts-raring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-raring libegl1-mesa-lts-raring libgles2-mesa-lts-raring"
[10:03] <shadeslayer> bleh, stops at the first instance
[10:04] <shadeslayer> anyway, jmux, try that ^^ with quantal instead of raring
[10:08] <shadeslayer> seems to work here http://paste.kde.org/p24d28a1c/
[10:14] <jmux> shadeslayer: I can't really try the update. My client installation already contains the lts-raring HWE and KDE 4.11 packages on precise.
[10:14] <shadeslayer> ah :)
[10:14] <shadeslayer> cool :)
[10:15] <jmux> This probably just works, because my repository doesn't contain any alternative packages.
[10:15] <jmux> And many thanks from Munich / LiMux for those Precise KDE 4.11 packages - saved us a lot of work!
[10:16] <shadeslayer> maybe :)
[10:16] <shadeslayer> jmux: mostly thanks to yofel :D
[10:17]  * smartboyhw asks for shadeslayer and yofel to review calligra.
[10:17] <shadeslayer> link pklz
[10:17] <shadeslayer> *plz
[10:18] <Riddell> smartboyhw: what's to review?
[10:18] <smartboyhw> Riddell, 2.7.2 duh
[10:18] <smartboyhw> :P
[10:18] <smartboyhw> In smartboyhw/packaging-staging-1
[10:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=saucy < do I need to review all nm packages?
[10:20] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: l10n is FTBFS
[10:21] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, :O
[10:21] <smartboyhw> Oh, removed language
[10:24] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yeah please, packaging as well as funationality
[10:28] <Riddell> !testers | plasma-mediacentre in saucy and kubuntu-ppa/backports for raring
[10:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: probably going to take time since I have to setup a saucy VM
[10:31] <shadeslayer> or hmm
[10:32]  * Riddell publishes kubuntu.org/news/plasma-mediacentre-1.1
[10:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: mm you're not on saucy?
[10:32] <shadeslayer> I am
[10:33] <shadeslayer> yeah, I'll just add the ppa
[10:33] <Riddell> so just install them locally
[10:33] <Riddell> it won't breaking anything :)
[10:34]  * Riddell publishes kubuntu.org/news/plasma-mediacentre-1.1
[10:37] <Riddell> yofel: ok to add 12.10 to kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.11 ?
[10:38] <shadeslayer> Do we even have packages for 12.10?
[10:38] <Tm_T> uh, no qdbus in 13.04 with 4.11?
[10:39] <shadeslayer> !find /usr/bin/qdbus raring
[10:39] <Tm_T> the bin is symlink to qtchooser bin
[10:39] <shadeslayer> ah
[10:40] <Tm_T> which tries to run bin from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/
[10:40] <Tm_T> which isn't there
[10:40] <Riddell> Tm_T: apt-get install qdbus ?
[10:40] <shadeslayer> you want qt4-dev-tools
[10:40] <Riddell> it's a known problem that qtchooser can be installed without some binaries to confuse things
[10:40] <shadeslayer> or qtbase5-dev-tools
[10:40] <Tm_T> Riddell: done, even tried reinstalling several times
[10:41] <Riddell> dpkg -L qdbus  ?
[10:41] <Tm_T> contains /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus
[10:41] <Tm_T> ahaaa
[10:41] <Tm_T> so qtchooser tries to run binary from wrong qt version?
[10:42] <shadeslayer> yes
[10:42] <shadeslayer> you need to export some variable
[10:43] <shadeslayer> man qtchooser
[10:43] <Tm_T> the assumption that if I install packages things just work, doesn't work here
[10:43] <Tm_T> let's see
[10:44] <yofel> Riddell: should be fine, I heard no complaints
[10:44] <yofel> shadeslayer: yes, we have packages for 12.10 now
[10:44] <shadeslayer> oh cool
[10:45] <Riddell> yofel: thanks for doing those
[10:46] <Riddell> shadeslayer: people moaned so yofel was good enough to do it, I'm still not sure why anyone is running quantal but customer knows best I guess
[10:46] <shadeslayer> ^^
[10:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: plasma-nm is the git version of the new network manager thingy right>
[10:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yeah
[10:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: along with libnm-qt and libmm-qt
[10:48] <shadeslayer> right
[10:48] <Riddell> and I need a packaging and functionality review
[10:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: looks weird in a horizontal panel
[10:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how so?
[10:49] <shadeslayer> pixmap isn't scaled properly
[10:49] <Riddell> looks exactly the same as current one to me
[10:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: screenshot?
[10:49] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, Riddell the *fixed* calligra-l10n should be in smartboyhw/packaging-staging-2 ppa
[10:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/08/20/plasma-desktopwH9290.png
[10:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh, you probably added it to the systray
[10:50] <Riddell> that's a vertical panel :)
[10:50] <Riddell> yeah it's in my systray
[10:50] <Riddell> but it looks fine in your screenshot no?
[10:50] <shadeslayer> yes, looks weird in a horizontal screenshot as well
[10:50] <shadeslayer> nope
[10:50] <smartboyhw> Hmm, not yet
[10:51] <shadeslayer> looks bad locally
[10:51] <shadeslayer> possibly screenshot doesn't show the issue properly
[10:51] <shadeslayer> that IM button is totally confusiong
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:51] <shadeslayer> *confusing
[10:51] <shadeslayer> I associate that icon with ktp
[10:52] <shadeslayer> is it just me or both the wrench and the 'online icon' do the same thing?
[10:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I would propose putting it in experimental
[10:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: IM button?
[10:56] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes it's one big button at the bottom to show the options panel thing
[10:56] <shadeslayer> both the wrench and the online icon do the same thing http://wstaw.org/m/2013/08/20/plasma-desktopCz9290.png
[10:56] <Riddell> ah you're saying the green icon is the same as telepathy connected icon, that could be confusing
[10:57] <shadeslayer> that AND clicking on either the icon and the wrench does the same thing
[10:59] <Riddell> sure, valid UI issue, we can take that back to the authors
[10:59] <Riddell> but not a killer I think
[10:59] <shadeslayer> sure
[10:59] <Riddell> I'd like to put it into saucy to get it tested for the beta and we can decide from there
[11:02] <shadeslayer> Won't having 2 network managers in the archive be confusing?
[11:04] <shadeslayer> and traditionally we've put stuff in the experimental ppa for testing
[11:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: from a packaging POV how about dropping "Sample debian/rules that uses debhelper" lines in debian/rules ?
[11:05] <shadeslayer> ( still there in plasma-nm _
[11:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I'm always unsure about best practice on that, removing copyright notices seems unfair
[11:07] <Riddell> but then it's just distracting
[11:08] <Riddell> it's a small issue that doesn't matter either way so I think I'll do it
[11:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can you update Qt5 in Neon5 plz
[11:10] <soee> Riddell, here at work i havent updated my system yet to KDe 4.11, now i would like to do this and this packages are marked to be removed: ktouchpadenabler kwin-style-qtcurve libaudiocdplugins4 libkdgantt2 libtaskmanager4abi3 qtcurve tasks-icons
[11:10] <soee> is it fine ?
[11:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: then in libnetworkmanagerqt0.install maybe change the regex to usr/lib/lib*.so.0*
[11:10] <shadeslayer> so that if it breaks in the future, the package fails to build
[11:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: if what breaks?
[11:12] <Riddell> oh the SONAME changes?
[11:12] <shadeslayer> if the so version is bumped to 1?
[11:12] <shadeslayer> yes
[11:12] <Riddell> soee: yeah that's all fine
[11:13] <shadeslayer> then we can catch it
[11:13] <soee> Riddell, and stopped: apport-kde kscreen :)
[11:13] <soee> but this i just ignore
[11:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: no symbols for libmodemmanagerqt0 ?
[11:15] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hmm I added libmodemmanagerqt0.symbols
[11:16] <Riddell> but maybe I failed to upload it, tsk
[11:16] <shadeslayer> and same issue regarding the install file
[11:16] <shadeslayer> everything looks good otherwise
[11:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: would be nice to have a release with translations btw
[11:20] <shadeslayer> since it's such a big user facing app
[11:22] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes that would be essential for a more final release
[11:28] <seaLne> Riddell: in announcements about updated packages ie PMC is there a reason not to say what the package to install it is called? is this to get away from command line stuff?
[11:29] <Riddell> seaLne: hmm no, I think it's because I just copied that template from kde sc where the assumption is an update
[11:29]  * Riddell fixes
[11:32]  * Riddell updats kubuntu.org/news/plasma-mediacentre-1.1
[11:43] <Riddell> awooga, kde bug 321695 fixed
[13:01] <apachelogger> Riddell: it would appear the discover trello card is either out of date or we are about to head into a QA problem
[13:08] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes it's been e-mailing me that
[13:08] <Riddell> I'll look at it sometime soon
[13:09] <smartboyhw> Riddell, eh, when did we release plasma-mediacenter 1.1 to Ubuntu archive?
[13:13] <Riddell> smartboyhw: about an hour ago
[13:13] <smartboyhw> Riddell, great:)
[13:14]  * smartboyhw still wonders if Riddell have reviewed calligra for him
[13:14] <Riddell> smartboyhw: um no sorry slipped my mind, onto it now
[13:14] <smartboyhw> Riddell, don't forget, the -l10n is in my packaging-staging-2 ppa:P
[13:15] <Riddell> smartboyhw: hmm, why?
[13:15] <smartboyhw> Riddell, because the packaging-staging-1 version of -l10n failed:P
[13:15] <smartboyhw> Due to an extra package (cavalencia got killed obviously)
[13:16] <Riddell> smartboyhw: but why not delete it and upload there?  or bump version no?
[13:16] <Riddell> using a different ppa is just inelegant
[13:16] <smartboyhw> Riddell, because delete doesn't work at all (I've tried many times)
[13:16] <smartboyhw> And bumping version number makes it inelegant (for me:P)
[13:17] <Riddell> it's kinae what version numbers are there for :)
[13:20] <soee> what exactyl plamsa-mediacenter do
[13:20] <soee> if i open it i have only window with 4 huge icons
[13:20] <soee> and thats all i cant click any of them just scroll left-right
[13:23] <smartboyhw> soee, ;O
[13:23] <soee> smartboyhw, may thi be related to: i just upgraded from 4.10.5 => 4.11 on raring but didnt reboot ?
[13:24] <smartboyhw> soee, eh, you should log out I think at least, to experience 4.11...
[13:25] <soee> smartboyhw, yeah but i didnt want to stop my work :) thats why i postponed reboot
[13:33] <Riddell> smartboyhw: wibble
[13:33] <Riddell> words(11426)/koffice (lib komain): "words" part.desktop not found.
[13:33] <Riddell> calligrawords not running?
[13:33] <smartboyhw> Riddell, :O
[13:34] <Riddell> same for calligrasheets
[13:34] <Riddell> smartboyhw: does it work for you?
[13:34]  * smartboyhw checks
[13:35] <Riddell> it works after running kbuildsycoca4
[13:35] <Riddell> so it's a general problem
[13:35] <smartboyhw> Hmm
[13:35] <Riddell> that should run magically when installing new stuff
[13:35]  * smartboyhw didn't do anything to packaging except the libopencolorio powerpc change
[13:36] <smartboyhw> I'm currently installing here
[13:37] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ew, I have that problem too
[13:37] <Riddell> smartboyhw: fixed by running kbuildsycoca4 ?
[13:37] <smartboyhw> Riddell, NO.
[13:37]  * smartboyhw is not understanding this
[13:39] <BluesKaj> apachelogger, I'm looking for a method to configure the audio output settings for video playback on the PMC. Is there a config file available to edit ?
[13:39] <Riddell> BluesKaj: it just uses phonon, settings in system settings
[13:40] <Riddell> - libopencolorio-dev [!powerpc !armhf],
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Riddell, that's what i was afraid of :(
[13:40] <smartboyhw> Riddell, any reason that you can think of?
[13:40] <Riddell> smartboyhw: libopencolorio-dev fine on powerpc?
[13:40] <smartboyhw> Riddell, according to ScottK yes
[13:40] <smartboyhw> He did that change, not me.
[13:41] <Riddell> smartboyhw: nope I'm mystified
[13:41] <Riddell> but I can't see it being a calligra problem
[13:41]  * smartboyhw too
[13:41] <smartboyhw> Is it our own problem then
[13:41] <smartboyhw> ?
[13:42] <Riddell> smartboyhw: ok to upload?
[13:42] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I'm not sure now...
[13:43] <Riddell> smartboyhw: well nothing has changed in calligra
[13:43] <smartboyhw> Riddell, OK then, if you say so
[13:43] <smartboyhw> But this weird thing...
[13:44] <Riddell> yes, worrying
[13:45] <Riddell> smartboyhw: you planning on backporting this?
[13:45] <shadeslayer> ~np shadeslayer_
[13:46] <smartboyhw> Riddell, the problem is that if this "problem" happens to 13.04 and 12.04 users, I'm not willing to backport it.
[13:46] <smartboyhw> "problem" = kbuildsycoca4
[13:47] <Riddell> smartboyhw: if it happens in 13.04 we know it's something to do with calligra and not kdelibs
[13:47] <Riddell> but I expect it's kdelibs
[13:47] <smartboyhw> Riddell, OK
[13:48] <smartboyhw> Riddell, can you do the backport? I am a bit busy here to rush my summer homework..
[13:49] <Riddell> smartboyhw: we'll see who gets to it first :)
[13:49] <Riddell> uploaded to saucy
[13:50] <smartboyhw> Riddell, huh
[13:50] <Riddell> well I'm busy on plama-nm now and I'm away this evening so dunno if I have time either
[13:51]  * smartboyhw then nominates apachelogger or shadeslayer or yofel to do the work...
[13:51] <shadeslayer> I have a frameworks meeting to attend in 10 minutes
[13:51] <shadeslayer> then I'm done for the day
[13:51] <shadeslayer> ( assuming John Layt doesn't reply to my mail )
[13:53] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you keeping more normal waking hours these days?
[13:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ~yeah
[13:54] <shadeslayer> trying hard to
[13:54] <shadeslayer> I slip one or two hours every week, need to keep myself in check so that I don't slip too far
[13:54] <shadeslayer> I started off this week by sleeping at 2 AM
[13:55] <shadeslayer> today was not productive though :(
[13:59]  * shadeslayer hasn't watched Dr. Who in over 2 weeks :(
[14:00] <Riddell> it's not been broadcast for about 2 months?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> I was catching up on old episodes
[14:00] <shadeslayer> was watching the one where David Tenant stars as the doctor
[14:01]  * shadeslayer tries fixing QtWebkit FTBFS
[14:02] <Riddell> bonus points for the Children in Need special that is set when he regenerates as David Tennant
[14:02] <Riddell> smartboyhw: calligra-l10n breakage? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/148008979/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.calligra-l10n_1%3A2.7.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:02] <Riddell> -- ERROR: debian/control has excess language packages: calligra-l10n-cavalencia
[14:02] <smartboyhw> Riddell, is it packaging-staging-2?
[14:02] <Riddell> those pesky valencians, it's not like they even have their own language
[14:03] <Riddell> smartboyhw: aah
[14:03] <Riddell> smartboyhw: my apt-get source may have not realised that
[14:03] <Riddell> so I'll need to bump the version no anyway :)
[14:03] <smartboyhw> Weird
[14:03] <smartboyhw> ....
[14:03] <smartboyhw> Riddell, it failed in packaging-staging-2
[14:04] <smartboyhw> But I've uploaded the fixed version already, maybe I missed something (damn)
[14:04]  * smartboyhw goes back to his Maths
[14:04] <Riddell> no it's fine in packaging-staging-2
[14:05] <smartboyhw> Riddell, is it?
[14:05] <Riddell> I uploaded the packaging-staging-1 version by mistake - you didn't update the version number :)
[14:05] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-2/+packages looks fine
[14:05] <shadeslayer> PFNGLFRAMEBUFFERTEXTURE2DMULTISAMPLEIMGPROC < what a fun define
[14:05] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ah you uploaded wrong:P
[14:05] <smartboyhw> Sorry man
[14:06] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, I never get Qt 5 dev branch to build...
[14:06] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: this is qtwebkit
[14:06] <shadeslayer> a completely different beast
[14:06] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, qtwebkit too
[14:06] <smartboyhw> I mean, the Qt 5 version
[14:06] <shadeslayer> just disable it?
[14:07] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, I want to build frameworks
[14:07] <smartboyhw> But Plasma Frameworks 2 needs qtwebkit5 (damn)
[14:07] <shadeslayer> Neon 5
[14:07] <shadeslayer> ?
[14:07]  * smartboyhw is starting to get hatred of PPAs;P
[14:07] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, anyways kde-workspace doesn't build in neon5 I think
[14:07] <shadeslayer> untrue
[14:08]  * smartboyhw checks
[14:09] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer,  project-neon5-kde-workspace 20 hours ago
[14:09] <smartboyhw> Failed to build: amd64 i386
[14:09] <smartboyhw> I'm not wrong it seems
[14:09] <shadeslayer> probably because we needed a new Qt5
[14:09] <shadeslayer> which I uploaded an hour or so ago
[14:09] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, oh great:)
[14:09] <shadeslayer> also, gtg, meeting time
[14:09]  * smartboyhw watches the meeting:P
[19:27] <soee> Riddell, i tested for a few minutes plasma-mediacenter at work, looks fine
[19:30] <soee> where was the network manager to test ?
[21:16]  * genii hugs queuebot