[12:24] <Kimahri> glyn: it's .Xauthority
[12:24] <Bateau_> no windows
[12:24] <locomorto> glyn:.xauthority
[12:24] <aaron> selinium my firefox browser says I'm offline have any idea why?
[12:24] <Bateau_> i formated
[12:24] <locomorto> glyn: .xauthority *
[12:24] <guowei> something related to "/var/....."
[12:24] <Kimahri> glyn: so /home/glyn/.Xauthority
[12:24] <rekrutacja> is tehre anyone with small children? i'm looking for people with experience in introducing kids to computers
[12:25] <glyn> k thanks, I did that
[12:25] <thoreauputic> glyn: also note *nix is case sensitive
[12:25] <Nvidiot> korben78: running apt-get update now, lets try again
[12:25] <aaron> firefox says I'm offline how do I fix that?
[12:25] <Nvidiot> korben78: missing still
[12:25] <VoX> !sources
[12:25] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:25] <glyn> still get the same error
[12:26] <thoreauputic> glyn: in your home dir type  ls -l .Xauthority
[12:26] <thoreauputic> glyn: what does that say?
[12:26] <Nvidiot> korben78: and if I do sudo dpkg -i http://url_to_libdvdcss that was referenced in that forum post I get an error too
[12:26] <Kimahri> aaron: file -> work offline (make sure that's not checked)
[12:26] <thoreauputic> glyn: correction  ls -al .Xauthority
[12:26] <Nvidiot> korben78: it says that it can't find the file even though I copied & pasted the full url to the deb file
[12:26] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: grab it
[12:26] <kbrooks> don't pass the full url
[12:27] <kbrooks> wget -c http://url
[12:27] <Nvidiot> kbrooks: ah okay :)
[12:27] <kbrooks> and sudo dpkg -i ...
[12:27] <fr00d> Hello!
[12:27] <Kimahri> i remember you, kbrooks... a fed up gentoo user moved away :P
[12:27] <Kimahri> hello fr00d
[12:27] <fr00d> I've a Problem: I forgot my root password.
[12:27] <korben78> hiya fr00d
[12:27] <fr00d> What can I do?
[12:27] <glyn> glyn@Haksmoke:~$ ls -l .Xauthority-rw-------  1 glyn glyn 119 2005-10-04 01:53 .Xauthority
[12:28] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: dpkg doesnt support web retrival
[12:28] <thoreauputic> fr00d: unless you made one, you don't have one
[12:28] <Kimahri> fr00d: sudo passwd root
[12:28] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: only apt, and thats by a file
[12:28] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: don't encourage that, please
[12:28] <Nvidiot> kbrooks: understood :)
[12:28] <thoreauputic> !root
[12:28] <Nvidiot> now the next bit on the list is gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:28] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:28] <korben78> Nvidiot: any luck?
[12:29] <kbrooks> brb
[12:29] <Nvidiot> I have libdvdcss2 installed now, next bit is that gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:29] <thoreauputic> glyn: your output looks normal
[12:29] <korben78> excellent...glad to see its progressing :)
[12:29] <Kimahri> i'm just curious... who in their lsb-non-compliant mind had the idea to disable root?
[12:29] <korben78> anyone here able to help with an ati 9600xt config?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> glyn: what happens if you type sudo synaptic ?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: read ubotu's URL - this debate is OLD
[12:30] <glyn> command not found
[12:30] <fr00d> Great! thx
[12:30] <DjKritical> okay..  I've tried my best to fix this myself.... I have 2 sound devices... onboard and usb... I just want onboard to work again.... hoary hedgehog =(
[12:30] <Nvidiot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <- I'm following that, and the one with gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse fails, even though I have multiverse in my sources.list
[12:30] <thoreauputic> glyn: do you have synaptic installed?
[12:31] <glyn> I've used it before
[12:31] <aftertaf> Kimahri:  distro to help newcomers.... so root disabled means less damage easily done
[12:31] <thoreauputic> glyn: then you made a typo probably
[12:31] <johnnybezak> hey guys, i'm being told that I've run out of place on my disk. when I do a dh -h it says that the partition mounted on /home has 30 gig's and 30 gig's free. how come my home dir which is at /home/johnnybezak isn't on the /home partition with all the free room?
[12:31] <thoreauputic> glyn:  sudo synaptic
[12:31] <korben78> Kimahri: there is still a root console available
[12:31] <jip> how can i create /dev/dvb -filesystem? i'm trying to get my Hauppauge DVB-T -card to work. should i install some packages or what?
[12:31] <glyn> yer right..typo..lol
[12:32] <Kimahri> aftertaf: root disabled but allowing sudo still doesn't make much sense.
[12:32] <ales_italia> HP NX6125 AMD Turion 64bit 80 GB HD 512 RAM. Problem with suspend to ram, i inserted the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support file, i rebooted and restarted the machine and tried to suspend it, but it doesn?t work! The screen is black, but it doesn't switch off itself, if i try to resume it, i can do it, but i can't shutdown or reboot it. Any Ideas?
[12:32] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: *please* read the discussion on the wiki
[12:32] <aftertaf> Kimahri:  sort of... but you have to type sudo first and give your pw....
[12:32] <Kimahri> korben78: i don't like doing Applications -> Run Application -> gksudo gnome-terminal
[12:32] <aftertaf> ok thoreauputic :)
[12:32] <thoreauputic> !tell Kimahri about rootsudo
[12:33] <Kimahri> . /ignore ubotu
[12:33] <Nvidiot> one could also just open a terminal and type sudo su :)
[12:33] <Kimahri> i already have that site open
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: in gnome-terminal type sudo -i - voila, a root shell
[12:34] <glyn> how do I add the multiverse repository?  I'm on the wiki on adding repositories how to but it doesn't say
[12:34] <Kimahri> on my gentoo box, root cannot log in on the console or GDM, and the only way to root is through su -
[12:34] <Nvidiot> glyn: http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback
[12:34] <Kimahri> root's also not allowed ssh
[12:35] <Nvidiot> glyn: don't put the 2 backport lines in though, those don't work
[12:35] <glyn> ah got multiverse going now
[12:35] <Nvidiot> glyn: let me know if apt-get complains about gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse for you too
[12:37] <Seveas> !tell Nvidiot about ubuntuguide
[12:37] <Nvidiot> Seveas: okay, so the ubuntuguide isn't perfect, the wiki must be out of date too then
[12:38] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: at any rate, on my install of ubuntu, it asked me for a root pass, and root is enabled.
[12:38] <Sonderblade> when will ubuntu 5.10 be released?
[12:38] <Kimahri> Sonderblade: /topic
[12:38] <glyn> how do I remove programs?  I'm out of disk space and I can't figure out what's taking up so much space
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: you used the "expert" install option?
[12:38] <aftertaf> glyn:  type df
[12:38] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: yes, i did.
[12:38] <Seveas> Nvidiot, with one big difference: the wiki doesn't conatain the heaps of errors ubuntuguide has and can be fixed by anyone instead of just one uncooperative editor
[12:38] <aftertaf> see where your disks are being choked.
[12:38] <aftertaf> Sonderblade:  13 oct
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: right - that option enables root (it assumes you know what you are doing)
[12:39] <Nvidiot> Seveas: allright :) Tell me how to get gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse to work then? :)
[12:39] <glyn> which filesystem would ubuntu be?
[12:39] <aftertaf> glyn:  ext2/3
[12:39] <aftertaf> on "/"
[12:39] <Seveas> Nvidiot, by installing them...
[12:39] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: oh well.  i know how to secure systems.  ssh does not allow root to login, and neither does gdm, and it doesn't require a patched sulogin program
[12:39] <glyn> I'm not seeing a ext 2/3
[12:39] <ompaul> aftertaf, 3 is good
[12:39] <Nvidiot> Seveas: at which point apt-get says it can't find it :)
[12:40] <ALOYSIUS> HI, I AM ALOYSIUS. I AM A NOVICE USER.  I HAVE GOT ONE PROBLEM. MY SERIAL MOUSE IS NOT WORKING IN UBUNTU DESKTOP. I APPRETIATE ANY SUGGESTION. THANK YOU
[12:40] <Seveas> Nvidiot, enable multiverse
[12:40] <aftertaf> glyn:  can you paste your df ot a pastebin?
[12:40] <glyn> only /dev/hda2, tmpfs, dev/hda1, /dev, none, and /dev/hdc
[12:40] <Nvidiot> Seveas: I did
[12:40] <Seveas> ALOYSIUS, drop the caps
[12:40] <aftertaf> ALOYSIUS:  dont shout
[12:40] <glyn> how do I paste it into the paste bin?
[12:40] <ompaul> ALOYSIUS, turn off caps lock
[12:40] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[12:40] <Kimahri> ALOYSIUS: check your caps lock
[12:40] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:40] <Nvidiot> I see ALOYSIUS problem... it's a stuck capslock
[12:40] <ALOYSIUS> OK
[12:40] <kbrooks> ALOYSIUS: /nick aloysius
[12:40] <Seveas> !info gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:40] <waxhead> hi everyone
[12:40] <Seveas> !info gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse breezy
[12:41] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse: (All Multiverse GStreamer plugins), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 56 kB
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: the sudo option is partly there for newer users - although it works fine for more experienced users as well - it is just "different"
[12:41] <Nvidiot> Seveas: isn't breezy the 'bleeding edge beta' version?
[12:41] <Seveas> Nvidiot, the package appears only in breezy, if you run hoary you need to install the plugins one-by-one
[12:41] <johnnybezak> hey guys, when I do a df -h it says the partition mounted on /home is full but when I check how full /home is in gnome it says it's only got like 7 gigs in there. the partition is 30 gigs big.
[12:41] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: i'm too hardcoded to the traditional superuser model :P although i do admit that the sudo method is good for new users.
[12:41] <Seveas> Nvidiot, it's RC quality
[12:41] <Nvidiot> Seveas: great... how ? :)
[12:41] <Seveas> Nvidiot, install gstreamer0.8-faad gstreamer0.8-mad etc....
[12:41] <glyn> aftertaf>I pasted it onto the pastebin
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: nothing new about sudo - used in many sites sincethe 1980s afaik
[12:42] <Nvidiot> Seveas: gotcha, let me fire up synaptic
[12:42] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: "new users"
[12:42] <kbrooks> read
[12:42] <aftertaf> ok glyn . looking....
[12:42] <Kimahri> thoreauputic: i never said sudo was new :P
[12:42] <clapaucius> hi
[12:42] <ALOYSIUS> Can anyone address my issue?
[12:42] <aaron> how can I change the format of an MP3 to OGG?
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: I know - I'll rephrase that - I just was musing that the sudo model has been used for many years :)
[12:43] <aftertaf> glyn:  your root is full dude
[12:43] <aftertaf> glyn:  /dev/hda2              2128180   2084732         0 100% /
[12:43] <glyn> how do I fix that?
[12:43] <Kimahri> aaron: mpg321 <file> | oggenc <opts>
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Kimahri: I should have been more precise :)
[12:43] <aftertaf> glyn:  do you have a lot of crap in home?
[12:43] <aftertaf> glyn:  are you on breezy?
[12:43] <ALOYSIUS> how to enable serial mouse/
[12:43] <aaron> kimahri is their a way to do a full list of mp3's?
[12:44] <kbrooks> my / is not full ;)
[12:44] <glyn> I'm on Hoary
[12:44] <johnnybezak> aaron: in a directory
[12:44] <waxhead> how far off is breezy to being released?
[12:44] <Kimahri> glyn: check to see how full your /var/cache/apt/archives is: du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:44] <glyn> I do have a lot in home, should I move it?
[12:44] <Kimahri> glyn: /topic
[12:44] <aaron> how johnnybezak?
[12:44] <aftertaf> glyn:  yeah, but to a different partition....
[12:44] <johnnybezak> ls *.mp3
[12:44] <waxhead> has anyone changed their sources.lst to breezy yet?
[12:44] <clapaucius> yes
[12:44] <clapaucius> i have
[12:44] <kbrooks> waxhead: it is trivial
[12:44] <aftertaf> Wax:  loads of ud
[12:44] <aftertaf> us
[12:45] <Kimahri> aaron: for i in `ls -1 /path/to/mp3/folder`; do mpg321 <file> | oggenc <options>; done;
[12:45] <aaron> johnny like this? mpg321 *.mp3 | oggenc *.ogg
[12:45] <aftertaf> glyn:  you should get rid of apt cache too i think.
[12:45] <waxhead> so just change hoary to breezy?
[12:45] <Kimahri> !upgrading
[12:45] <ubotu> Kimahri: Not a clue
[12:45] <thoreauputic> !upgrade2breezy
[12:45] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:45] <aaron> how do I get the MP3 plugin?
[12:46] <glyn> 33M     /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:46] <poningru> or
[12:46] <poningru> !breezy
[12:46] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:46] <Kimahri> aaron: should just be able to apt-get install mpg321
[12:46] <aftertaf> glyn:  sudo apt-get clean or autoclean
[12:46] <thoreauputic> poningru: aha - useful thanks :)
[12:46] <aftertaf> 33M isnt a lot.
[12:46] <poningru> :)
[12:46] <aaron> kimahri would that download the mp3 plugin?
[12:46] <kbrooks> !upgrade2warty
[12:46] <ubotu> kbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:46] <aftertaf> glyn:  buy a new hd. you have no room left man....
[12:46] <kbrooks> !upgrade2hoary
[12:46] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, kbrooks
[12:47] <aftertaf> only 10 gig with boh win & linux aint a lot
[12:47] <aaron> what is the ubuntu wiki site?
[12:47] <kbrooks> aaron: wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:47] <poningru> glyn: def or I would keep stuff in cds or something
[12:48] <Kimahri> !tell aaron about mp3
[12:48] <hansi_xp> can someone tell me where to download really cool themes?
[12:48] <poningru> hansi_xp: art.gnome.org
[12:48] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: as a start >> sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras
[12:49] <hansi_xp> i think i got/been to both of them two
[12:49] <aaron> what are all the packages for the gnome themes?
[12:49] <hansi_xp> sometimes i see really freaking looking themes
[12:49] <hansi_xp> and i like how did they do that!
[12:49] <johnnybezak> hansi_xp: for gnome or kde? art.gnome.org gnome-look.org
[12:49] <hansi_xp> hnome
[12:49] <thoreauputic> aaron: scroll up
[12:49] <poningru> hansi_xp: you should also look in your repositories
[12:50] <thoreauputic> there are icon packages too, I think...
[12:51] <hansi_xp> what's the best looking theme?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> gnome-extra-icons <<<
[12:51] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: matter of taste
[12:51] <hansi_xp> whats your favourite theme?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: I quite like the Amaranth theme
[12:53] <Nvidiot> hey, no gcc in the default install?
[12:53] <locomorto> you can't play H.264 in linux yet right?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: be
[12:53] <HrdwrBob> Nvidiot: no, apt-get install build-essential
[12:53] <locomorto> Nvidiot: build-essential
[12:53] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: install build-essential
[12:53] <Nvidiot> (trying to install sun jre, it complains about missing gcc :))
[12:53] <Nvidiot> okay :)
[12:53] <locomorto> Nvidiot: use java-package and fakeroot
[12:54] <locomorto> it is really easy and creates a .deb for you
[12:54] <poningru> locomorto: yes you can
[12:54] <Nvidiot> locomorto: yeah, the instructions mention that, I will, but I'd like gcc on my box in any case :)
[12:54] <poningru> locomorto: have you tried vlc?
[12:54] <kbrooks> alias install="apt-get install" # this?
[12:54] <locomorto> poningru: I would rather not download 200mb and then find it wont work
[12:55] <poningru> um I dont think vlc is 200 mb
[12:55] <johnnybezak> found my hidden gigabytes they were, wait for it, drumroll please *in the trash*
[12:55] <poningru> but here is the website
[12:55] <locomorto> nono
[12:55] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: alias install="apt-get install" # this?
[12:55] <locomorto> the video file
[12:55] <poningru> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
[12:55] <poningru> locomorto: oh gotcha
[12:55] <cafuego_> kbrooks: no, 'install' is an actual command.
[12:55] <poningru> locomorto: yeah look under the video codecs
[12:55] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: no, I was referring to an IRC client alias I have in irssi but forgot I didn't have in xchat :)
[12:55] <cafuego_> kbrooks: alias ag='apt-get install'
[12:56] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: I see.
[12:56] <locomorto> hmm experimental
[12:56] <cafuego_> !fiond /usr/bin/install
[12:56] <ubotu> cafuego_: I don't know
[12:56] <cafuego_> !find /usr/bin/install
[12:56] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: in irssi I have "be" as an alias that says "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[12:56] <cafuego_> !be is <reply> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:56] <ubotu> cafuego_: okay
[12:56] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: Hehe.
[12:57] <kbrooks> ubotu: forget be
[12:57] <ubotu> i forgot be, kbrooks
[12:57] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install
[12:57] <aftertaf> yeah :
[12:57] <glyn> nvidiot>What were you having problems with?
[12:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of '/usr/bin/install' returned no results.
[12:57] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: why did you tell the bot to forget that?
[12:57] <aftertaf> !be
[12:57] <ubotu> aftertaf: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:57] <cafuego_> !be is <reply> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:57] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[12:57] <cafuego_> !lock be
[12:57] <ubotu> cafuego_: locking factoid be
[12:57] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: I don't see the point of clutter in the bot
[12:58] <Ng> worst bot ever. /usr/bin/install belongs to coreutils
[12:58] <thoreauputic> cafuego: that'll fix it :)
[12:58] <kbrooks> cafuego_: It's clutter.
[12:58] <poningru> no because !build is already there
[12:58] <Nvidiot> glyn: gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, but I installed the plugins manually, no problem
[12:58] <kbrooks> !build
[12:58] <ubotu> it has been said that build is sudo apt-get install build-essential, or use the synaptic package manager to install the build-essential package: or ask me about synaptic
[12:58] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: well cafuego owns the bot so tell him...
[12:58] <Ng> also, worst bot ever for being a bloot ;)
[12:58] <kbrooks> !forget be
[12:58] <ubotu> i forgot be, kbrooks
[12:58] <cafuego_> kbrooks: When he fills up i'll presonally rm -rf /var/lib/mysql/blootbot, I promise.
[12:58] <glyn> I couldn't install that either, but I just installed "gstreamer0.8-plugins"
[12:58] <poningru> kbrooks: dude dont go over the head of the guys who owns the bot
[12:58] <kbrooks> cafuego_: use !build from now on
[12:58] <aaron> can anyone tell me how to install the k3b-mp3 package?
[12:58] <glyn> perhaps the multiverse extension under the wiki is broken
[12:59] <johnnybezak> i dont like the bot. it seems so impersonal
[12:59] <aftertaf> aaron:  use synaptic
[12:59] <aftertaf> aaron:  in breezy its a separate package
[12:59] <cafuego_> kbrooks: No, thankyou.
[12:59] <aftertaf> johnnybezak:  yeah, but such a time winner
[12:59] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: erm - are you being a bit presumptuous ?
[12:59] <kbrooks> cafuego_: ok then
[12:59] <aftertaf> glyn:  dont think so
[01:00] <aaron> aftertaf I don't understand. I searched on it. and it says its for the x.org server.
[01:00] <aftertaf> erf
[01:00] <kbrooks> What's python2.4-minimal?
[01:00] <aaron> aftertaf apt-get install synaptic?
[01:00] <aftertaf> aaron:  sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[01:00] <aaron> I tried.
[01:01] <johnnybezak> aftertaf: i suppose :)
[01:01] <aaron> aftertaf the package isn't their
[01:01] <aftertaf> aaron:  in which way did you fail then?
[01:01] <aftertaf> aaron:  hmmm
[01:01] <aftertaf> !info k3b-mp3
[01:01] <kbrooks> aaron: hoary?
[01:01] <aftertaf> !info k3b-mp3 breezy
[01:01] <ubotu> k3b-mp3: (The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder), section universe/libs, is optional.  I searched anywhere and couldn't find the answer: I have two languages on my ubuntu. How can I switch between them (the Alt+Shift action in windows..)
[01:03] <aaron> thireauputic, its not their.
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> aftertaf: i installed printer-drivers(apt-get install cupsomatic-ppd), do i need to reboot system get things workin?
[01:03] <cafuego_> That's better :-)
[01:04] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  nope.
[01:04] <poningru> BooZee: what do you mean languages?
[01:04] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  you on gnome or kde?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> aaron: then you need more repos
[01:04] <poningru> BooZee: as in your keyboard or your locale?
[01:04] <Shin_Gouki> aftertaf:im on icewm
[01:04] <aftertaf> poningru:  as in locales, i thnk
[01:04] <thoreauputic> !tell aaron about repos
[01:04] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  oki...... :)
[01:04] <poningru> aftertaf: not possible cause windows does not do that iirc
[01:04] <Shin_Gouki> aftertaf:im on icewm,sooo? ^^
[01:04] <poningru> unless it does do that in pro
[01:04] <cafuego_> "21:04.21 tell: target = aaron, query = repos"
[01:04] <BooZee> I mean that my ubuntu is in english, but it's Hebrew enabled..
[01:04] <kbrooks> now to reboot.
[01:04] <poningru> BooZee: you have to log out to do that
[01:04] <aftertaf> poningru:  soooooo right. i'm being dense :/
[01:04] <BooZee> no no..
[01:05] <BooZee> let's say, w
[01:05] <poningru> BooZee: yeah your keyboard
[01:05] <poningru> you dont have to log out for that
[01:05] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  dunno mate.....
[01:05] <egoleo> can't find mysqld.sock
[01:05] <BooZee> oops. Lets say, I want to write in english (like I do know.) and suddenly, I want to write in hebrew
[01:05] <poningru> BooZee: you have to set the shortcut for that
[01:05] <egoleo> can someone help me
[01:05] <BooZee> oh!! how do I do that?
[01:05] <vexa> nick/ co_nafsu
[01:05] <Shin_Gouki> aftertaf, what do u do ongmone after installing drivers??
[01:05] <Shin_Gouki> aftertaf, do u restart?
[01:05] <cafuego_> egoleo: /var/run/mysqld
[01:05] <totally_noob> what is the best app for instant messanging like, and i mean MSN?
[01:06] <aftertaf> Shin_Gouki:  i have "kcmshell printmgr" with kde
[01:06] <BooZee> poningru: how can I set a shortcut ?
[01:06] <egoleo> what
[01:06] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  there are loads
[01:06] <poningru> BooZee: right click on one of your panels
[01:06] <egoleo> is not there
[01:06] <cafuego_> egoleo: That's where mysql.sock lives *IF* the mysql server is running.
[01:06] <totally_noob> aftertaf, i want something not gaim and not amsn please.. something better than them
[01:06] <egoleo> when i try to start mysql
[01:06] <poningru> BooZee: and add to panel
[01:06] <BooZee> if you mean a clickable shortcut, than I already have it.
[01:06] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  kmess, kopete
[01:06] <egoleo> that is the error it gives me
[01:06] <totally_noob> aftertaf, kmess is good?
[01:06] <Shin_Gouki> what service do i need to restart after installing printerdrivers? to get printer workin?
[01:06] <Paradoxx> !format
[01:06] <ubotu> Paradoxx: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:06] <BooZee> I want a keyboard shortcut - like Alt+Shift in windows
[01:07] <totally_noob> aftertaf, i tried kopete and i think kopete is silly
[01:07] <egoleo> it says it can't fine mysqld.sock
[01:07] <totally_noob> aftertaf, kmess is installed by default with ubuntu?
[01:07] <poningru> BooZee: oh
[01:07] <poningru> hmm
[01:07] <cafuego_> egoleo: Then the server isn't starting up.
[01:07] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  kmess aint bad.... its a new package in kde
[01:07] <poningru> hold on
[01:07] <totally_noob> aftertaf, I use gnome :(
[01:07] <yinu> gbuntu
[01:07] <BooZee> thank you!
[01:07] <Paradoxx> hmm, how do i go about formating a partition on my harddrive, so i can use it under linux?
[01:07] <yinu> kbuntu
[01:07] <totally_noob> org@ubuntu:~$ kmess
[01:07] <totally_noob> bash: kmess: command not found
[01:08] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  dont matter. you can still sudo apt-get install  it
[01:08] <totally_noob> aftertaf, do you think it is good?
[01:08] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: You run 'mkfs' on it.
[01:08] <aftertaf> yeah, not bad at all.
[01:08] <thoreauputic> totally_noob: what do you dislike about gaim?
[01:08] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: mkfs -t <fstype>
[01:08] <totally_noob> E: Couldn't find package kmess
[01:08] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  are you looking for a particular IM protocol?
[01:08] <cafuego_> !info kmess
[01:08] <egoleo> so whats really wrong with mysql
[01:09] <Paradoxx> how do i find out where i have it sotred under linux?
[01:09] <cafuego_> totally_noob: There is no such package.
[01:09] <egoleo> that it can't start
[01:09] <Paradoxx> interms of dev/hda?
[01:09] <totally_noob> thoreauputic, I dislike that gaim disconnect alot, + it doesn't notice or flash me when i recieve new msgs, so i have to see the Tab every 5 mins to see my friend if he reply to me, "No flashing" like in fc4
[01:09] <dooglus> Paradoxx: "df <file>"
[01:09] <totally_noob> cafuego, but aftertaf said there is package kmess
[01:09] <cafuego_> egoleo: No idea. Did you install mysql-server? Did you check syslog? And the logfile?
[01:09] <TiMiDo> hey everone
[01:09] <Paradoxx> dooglus: huh?
[01:09] <totally_noob> aftertaf, I want to use MSN thats all, and i dont want gaim or amsn
[01:09] <cafuego_> totally_noob: Not in Ubuntu.
[01:09] <aftertaf> universe repository:  KMess is a MSN Messenger clone for Linux
[01:09] <totally_noob> im asking if there is another than them
[01:09] <totally_noob> cafuego, why not in ubuntu:(
[01:10] <cafuego_> !ino kmess breezy
[01:10] <ubotu> cafuego_: What?
[01:10] <hansi_xp> does somebody know how to get like transparent windows?
[01:10] <dooglus> Paradoxx: you have files on your drive, and you want to know the path to the device?
[01:10] <aftertaf> hansi_xp:  windows cleaner ;)
[01:10] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Not according to the package lists on the bot.
[01:10] <totally_noob> any opinions
[01:10] <TiMiDo> hansi_xp, aterm ;P
[01:10] <aftertaf> cafuego:  i have it on ly pc.
[01:10] <heatxsink> hello all
[01:10] <silent_scream> my problem is: i want to install a package with synaptic package manager, and when it asks the install cd  of ubuntu, and i put in the cd, it continues to ask me for the cd.. as if it doesn't recognize it!!!
[01:10] <kbrooks> Yay. :)
[01:11] <totally_noob> People
[01:11] <kbrooks> GNOME 2.10 is REALLY nice.
[01:11] <kbrooks> 2.12
[01:11] <Paradoxx> dooglus: no, i have a partition on a hard drive, use to use it in windowns, i have cleared the stuff off it, and now wanna format it, and use it under linux
[01:11] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Not in the package lists on my machines either.
[01:11] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Did you install an external .deb?
[01:11] <Shin_Gouki> hi i need a gui ICQ Client for Icewm , ideas?
[01:11] <totally_noob> kbrooks, does it make the tabs flash? I mean in gaim if you recieve new msg does it flash?
[01:11] <aftertaf> cafuego:  nope....  just on kde 3.5 beta
[01:11] <Kimahri> cafuego_: all you have to do is enable the universe repository, then apt-get install kmess or something like that.
[01:11] <dooglus> Paradoxx: fdisk -l /dev/hda will list the partitions on /dev/hda
[01:11] <kbrooks> totally_noob: no idea
[01:12] <totally_noob> :(
[01:12] <poningru> BooZee: sorry dude I dont know
[01:12] <cafuego_> Kimahri: I have those enabled, but no 'kmess'
[01:12] <kbrooks> totally_noob: YES
[01:12] <BooZee> damn... well thank you anyway.
[01:12] <totally_noob> kbrooks, what yes?
[01:12] <totally_noob> kbrooks, I want to install like your gnome
[01:12] <kbrooks> i loaded add applications and it flashed!
[01:12] <totally_noob> i have 2.10.0
[01:12] <totally_noob> kbrooks, AHA cool
[01:12] <totally_noob> but i have gnome 2.10.0
[01:12] <totally_noob> what about you
[01:12] <heatxsink> how would I add this source to my sources.list ?  http://3demi.net/debian/debs/
[01:13] <Paradoxx> ok, it is /dev/hde5
[01:13] <cafuego_> The only match is "kmessedwords".
[01:13] <kbrooks> totally_noob: don't do it. 2.12 is included in breezy
[01:13] <hansi_xp> TiMiDo: thanks
[01:13] <Kimahri> totally_noob: i believe gnome 2.12.0 is for breezy.  hoary shipped with 2.10.0
[01:13] <TiMiDo> np hansi_xp
[01:13] <locomorto> Gnome 2.12 is indeed in breezy
[01:13] <antisocialboris> how do i set up wine?
[01:13] <cafuego_> aftertaf: WILL YOUS TOP FUCKING SPAMMING ME!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:13] <totally_noob> kbrooks, yes i know
[01:13] <Paradoxx> its a NTFS partition, how do i go about formating it into ext3 or whatever partition you recommend
[01:13] <totally_noob> kbrooks, what is your gnome version,, you just said that it flashed.
[01:13] <locomorto> Nautilus kicks arse in 2.12
[01:13] <aftertaf> cafuego:  you get my PM?
[01:13] <kbrooks> totally_noob: 2.12
[01:14] <locomorto> Paradoxx: use qtparted
[01:14] <Kimahri> cafuego_: language maybe?  i don't know the actual rules about language in this channel though
[01:14] <locomorto> Paradoxx: ITs like partion magic
[01:14] <silent_scream> i want to install a package with synaptic package manager, and when it asks the install cd  of ubuntu, and i put in the cd, it continues to ask me for the cd.. as if it doesn't recognize it!!! any ideas?
[01:14] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Yes, an duie to that shite I'll add you to /ignore now. Perhapd you could use a paste site next time.
[01:14] <locomorto> silent_screem: go into settings -> repositories
[01:14] <totally_noob> kbrooks, you have 2.12?
[01:14] <locomorto> silent_screem: And turn off the cd
[01:14] <Shin_Gouki> hi is it possible to run gaim on icewm?
[01:14] <Paradoxx> locomorto: isn't there another way to do it, without having to d/l another app
[01:14] <cafuego_> Kimahri: yes, I know. 100 lines of pasted crud later you'll be annoyed too ;-)
[01:14] <totally_noob> but a friend of mine have gnome 2.10.0-5 and his things flashs
[01:14] <locomorto> silent_screem: Then hit reload and you'll be good to go
[01:15] <aftertaf> do what you like. i was trying to give you information . on PM.
[01:15] <kbrooks> totally_noob: in breezy
[01:15] <locomorto> Paradoxx: I don't think so
[01:15] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: of course, yes
[01:15] <totally_noob> huh
[01:15] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Check the rules on uninvited PMs and be amazed.
[01:15] <totally_noob> kbrooks, ok
[01:15] <Kimahri> Paradoxx: mke2fs -j /dev/<whatever device it is>
[01:15] <locomorto> Shin_Gouki: of course
[01:15] <kbrooks> totally_noob: new windows that open flash
[01:15] <Shin_Gouki> thx!
[01:15] <Paradoxx> Kimahri: will that make a ext2 or ext3 partition?
[01:15] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Ask first, THEN paste.
[01:15] <Kimahri> Paradoxx: ext3
[01:15] <thoreauputic> !+msg
[01:15] <ubotu> please don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.
[01:15] <totally_noob> guys how to checkout on a package that is already installed in my system, i mean i want to see what version do i have installed here.. like when i was in fc4 i do "rpm -qa gaim" for example on gaim... whats that in ubuntu plz?
[01:15] <totally_noob> kbrooks, yes
[01:16] <totally_noob> kbrooks, also gaim when it recieve new msgs
[01:16] <totally_noob> kbrooks, I want to have like your gnome
[01:16] <bimberi> totally_noob: dpkg -l <package>
[01:16] <silent_scream> thanx locomorto but why this happens?
[01:16] <kbrooks> totally_noob: i dont know how, other than upgrade to breezy
[01:16] <antisocialboris> can anyone help me either get jre working or wine
[01:16] <antisocialboris> ?
[01:16] <kbrooks> bimberi: dont advise people to mix hoary and breezy
[01:16] <locomorto> silent_scream: I'm not sure, but I hate the CD thing anyway so its better for you in the long run
[01:17] <totally_noob> bimberi, what is dpkg?
[01:17] <Kimahri> antisocialboris: check http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on installing j2re
[01:17] <bimberi> kbrooks: eh?
[01:17] <Paradoxx> Kimahri: do i have to add the partition to the fstab or somthing like that, so it will automatically mount on boot?
[01:17] <locomorto> totally_noob: its the little thing that installs everything for you
[01:17] <antisocialboris> ok, cheers
[01:17] <locomorto> totally_noob: apt-* just messes around with it
[01:17] <totally_noob> kbrooks, are you using breezy?
[01:17] <bimberi> totally_noob: "a medium-level package manager for Debian"
[01:17] <kbrooks> totally_noob: i am
[01:17] <totally_noob> bimberi, Cool
[01:17] <totally_noob> locomorto, that installs everything for me?
[01:18] <kbrooks> totally_noob: ummm
[01:18] <Kimahri> Paradoxx: i'm not that familiar with hal+dbus which is used in ubuntu, which keeps tabs on the fstab file, so i don't know
[01:18] <totally_noob> bimberi, I can't use grep on that right? I just did "dpkg -l gnome"
[01:18] <locomorto> totally_noob: Anything in .deb form
[01:18] <totally_noob> and it doesnt' give me anything
[01:18] <Paradoxx> kk
[01:18] <kbrooks> totally_noob: listen
[01:18] <totally_noob> can i use "dpkg -l | grep gnome"
[01:18] <totally_noob> ?
[01:18] <locomorto> totally_noob: If you use apt-get, your using dpkg you just probably dont see it
[01:18] <totally_noob> kbrooks, yes sir.
[01:18] <kbrooks> apt <=> dpkg
[01:18] <heatxsink> how would I add this source to my sources.list ?  http://3demi.net/debian/debs/
[01:18] <totally_noob> dpkg is the same as apt?
[01:18] <Paradoxx> how do i set a partition to mount automatically on boot?
[01:18] <locomorto> no
[01:18] <Kimahri> totally_noob: apt is a frontend to dpkg
[01:18] <kbrooks> totally_noob: dpkg is a low level interface to apt
[01:18] <totally_noob> locomorto, i see
[01:18] <totally_noob> so it's an alias
[01:18] <kbrooks> totally_noob: no
[01:19] <Kimahri> kbrooks: it's the other way around.  apt calls dpkg
[01:19] <kbrooks> totally_noob: not a symlink or anything
[01:19] <locomorto> basically apt is a really cool front end to dpkg making it really really easy to use and powefull
[01:19] <locomorto> and synaptic adds a GUI to apt
[01:19] <sorush20> hi.. guys I have fed computer up again..
[01:19] <iru> heat: edit /etc/apt/apt.sources
[01:19] <cafuego_> According to packages.ubuntu.com, kmess is not in Hoary, only in breezy.
[01:19] <poningru> !tell heatxsink about repos
[01:19] <locomorto> so basically everything builds on each other
[01:19] <totally_noob> ok
[01:19] <totally_noob> but i said i want to see the package That is already installed
[01:20] <kbrooks> locomorto: apt downloads and passes the .deb on the local machine to dpkg
[01:20] <totally_noob> not to findout a package available online
[01:20] <kbrooks> which does "all of the work"
[01:20] <locomorto> totally_noob: synaptic should do this for you
[01:20] <sorush20> right.. i configured xserver-xorg using the dpkg-reconfigure command, and what actually happened is that now i KEEP getting monior out of range..
[01:20] <egoleo> still mysql problem
[01:20] <sorush20> can somone help please..
[01:20] <heatxsink> poningru:  thank you
[01:20] <locomorto> System -> Adminstration -> synaptic
[01:20] <totally_noob> locomorto, I don't want a gui
[01:20] <poningru> heatxsink: np
[01:20] <totally_noob> locomorto, I want a simple command to check on a simple package
[01:20] <locomorto> Then go status -> Installed
[01:20] <Kimahri> totally_noob: then apt-get install aptitude and use that from the cli
[01:20] <cafuego_> sorush20: Did you try to tell it what the sync ranges of your screen sare?
[01:21] <cafuego_> totally_noob: dpkg -l <packagename>
[01:21] <bimberi> totally_noob: yes (to "can i use "dpkg -l | grep gnome")
[01:21] <egoleo> can't find mysqld.sock
[01:21] <Nvidiot> hmm, amarok can't use smb:// urls I see. I'll have to mount the folder then I suppose?
[01:21] <egoleo> it was working fine on hoary
[01:21] <totally_noob> bimberi, thanks
[01:21] <totally_noob> cafuego, ok thanks alot
[01:21] <egoleo> but is not working any more on breezy
[01:21] <Paradoxx> how do i set a partition to automatically mount at startup?
[01:21] <sorush20> cafuego I DON'T KNOW what the ranges are I guess I have to look it up on the computer..
[01:21] <Nvidiot> Paradoxx: edit /etc/fstab
[01:21] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: add it to /etc/fstab
[01:21] <Paradoxx> how?
[01:22] <aftertaf> Paradoxx:  have you managed to mount it manually?
[01:22] <cafuego_> sorush20: Well, ideally you'd tell the script you wanted 'Simple' configuration and choose a screen size and resolution only.
[01:22] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: via your favourite text editor and sudo.
[01:23] <Paradoxx> aftertaf: nope..i just formatted it awhile ago
[01:23] <poningru> !tell Paradoxx about mount
[01:23] <locomorto> Paradocc: man mount || man fstab
[01:23] <aftertaf> Paradoxx:  oki ;)  do you know how to mount manually?
[01:23] <jip> dmesg shows "cx88[0] : subsystem: 0070:9002, board: Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T [card=18,autodetected] ", but scan can't still find my the card. any idea how to install this card correctly?
[01:23] <poningru> aftertaf: dont worry I took care of it
[01:23] <aftertaf> locomorto:  yeah. but if he's new, a man file isnt gonna help much
[01:23] <locomorto> why not?
[01:23] <Necron> I have a mind to try out Ubuntu, but should i wait for the 5.10 release or download 5.4?
[01:24] <locomorto> Necron: go striaght to 5.10
[01:24] <poningru> jip: what have you tried so far?
[01:24] <Kimahri> Necron: i'd just go straight to 5.10
[01:24] <Shin_Gouki> hi i need a gui winrar/winzip client is there such?
[01:24] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: There;'s going to be an entry for / already in fstab. just sue that as example. All you need to do is change column 1 and column2.
[01:24] <Nvidiot> do not pass start, do not collect $100, go straight to 5.10 ;)
[01:24] <kbrooks> Necron: 5.04
[01:24] <Necron> I read a review saying 5.10 had a good deal of trouble...
[01:24] <locomorto> Shin_Gouki: file_roller for gnome ark for kde
[01:24] <kbrooks> not 5.4
[01:24] <aftertaf> locomorto:  just my opinion...man ages are for linux-familiar people
[01:24] <totally_noob> now i still need something to use msn with
[01:24] <Shin_Gouki> locomorto, and for icewm?
[01:24] <Kimahri> Necron: Breezy is RC quality now... in fact, it's slated for release in 9 days...
[01:24] <poningru> jip: you still there?
[01:25] <cafuego_> totally_noob: apt-cache search 'msn' - pick one of the ones listed.
[01:25] <locomorto> same as gnome
[01:25] <Paradoxx> cafuego huh?
[01:25] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  try using gaim and modifying the prefs you dont like.
[01:25] <abyss_> !repositories
[01:25] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[01:25] <jip> poningru, tried makedev-dvb.sh-script with no success. it creates the filesystem, but scan complains: main:1882: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 2 No such file or directory
[01:25] <kbrooks> Kimahri: rc is slated to release october 6
[01:25] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: In fstab. Just use the line for / as example.
[01:25] <Kimahri> kbrooks: it's RC quality... i never said it's an RC
[01:25] <cafuego_> Paradoxx: You'll need to change the device file (col 1) and the mount point (col 2)
[01:25] <Necron> Another questions: when a new release comes out(6.4) do i have to format or is there an update system?
[01:25] <poningru> jip: is it actually there?
[01:25] <Zeke1> what is the better file sharing program in linux?
[01:25] <bhanet> may i ask 4 help?? i have trouble setting up my printer for ubuntu
[01:25] <poningru> jip: hold on
[01:25] <kbrooks> Kimahri: i know
[01:25] <cafuego_> Necron: it cna be transparently upgraded.
[01:26] <poningru> jip: what kinda vid card is it?
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> hi i need an unzip programm for shell? name, apt?
[01:26] <totally_noob> aftertaf, I don't like alot of things in gaim
[01:26] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install  unzip
[01:26] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, unzip is you're friend
[01:26] <jip> poningru, Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[01:26] <Paradoxx> cafuego k
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> & rar?
[01:26] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, unrar
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> kk
[01:26] <TiMiDo> sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> thx!!
[01:26] <totally_noob> cafuego, i have to be root for doing that?
[01:26] <Necron> Last question for today: any place where a pretty advanced computer user can start learning linux? no one uses it around here
[01:26] <bhanet> anyone here who could help me pls?
[01:26] <aftertaf> totally_noob:  you really have a lot of choice..... try all of them and keep the one you like moset
[01:26] <cafuego_> totally_noob: To search? No. To install, yes.
[01:27] <aftertaf> Necron:  you're in the right place already....
[01:27] <N6REJ> hello everyone.  I have what is probably the dumbest question, but I've forgotten alot.  I'm trying to setup a server on a dsl connection behind a hardware router.  I have my own domain that resolves to the router and any windoze boxes fine.  I'm installing Ubuntu for the first time.  Its asking me my "hostname"  Is that anyname like windows does? or the FQDN?  i.e. adam.cogyfarm.com ?
[01:27] <Nvidiot> Necron: start playing with a livecd, read tutorials on how to do stuff, install it on your machine, read, read read :)
[01:27] <TiMiDo> true Nvidiot
[01:27] <kbrooks> Nvidiot++
[01:27] <Nvidiot> I read manpages when I'm bored (but I'm a bit weird like that)
[01:27] <Necron> did Slackware and Ubuntu live CDs, liked them. but didn't experiment too much because there was no setting saving
[01:27] <totally_noob> aftertaf, :(
[01:27] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  hostname, but not FQDN
[01:28] <totally_noob> i'm installing ayttm
[01:28] <cafuego_> N6REJ: anyname. Try "cthulhu" ;-)
[01:28] <Necron> any good webpage for tutorials? most of that i find seems to be Bash(command line?) stuff
[01:28] <N6REJ> aftertaf: so just say "adam"?  or "cogyfarm.com"?
[01:28] <Skid> N6REJ: adam.
[01:28] <cafuego_> N6REJ: "adam" in that case.
[01:28] <N6REJ> ok, coool.. ty.
[01:28] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  adam.... you'll get the chance for domain name after ;)
[01:28] <N6REJ> ok.
[01:29] <Nvidiot> Necron; because pretty much everything can be configured command-line style.   I dl'd badgy?
[01:32] <Nvidiot> Necron: google 'bash tutorial' or 'bash beginners' or so
[01:32] <thoreauputic> Necron: http://tuxfiles.org
[01:32] <N6REJ> or breeezy
[01:32] <N6REJ> what ever its called
[01:32] <cafuego_> N6REJ: breezy badger (one and the same)
[01:32] <crimsun> this is becoming ridiculous.
[01:32] <aftertaf> +r ?    :/
[01:32] <kbrooks> +r should be set.
[01:32] <Nvidiot> aftertaf: hehe, I'm starting to get the hang of vi(m)
[01:33] <cafuego_> +i
[01:33] <aftertaf> lol me to....
[01:33] <N6REJ> your into S&M I see Nv
[01:33] <mahangu> vim still baffles me
[01:33] <mahangu> i sue nano mostly
[01:33] <Nvidiot> (I'm a emacs user mostly)
[01:33] <mahangu> *use even
[01:33] <N6REJ> nano/pico :D
[01:33] <aftertaf> vim is cool :)
[01:33] <thoreauputic> !start an editor war
[01:33] <ubotu> kate is better than xemacs
[01:33] <poningru> gaaaah
[01:33] <mahangu> PICO
[01:33] <N6REJ> lol
[01:33] <aftertaf> for those 'X just set your gfx card on fire' moments,
[01:33] <poningru> EMACS
[01:33] <thoreauputic> !ed
[01:33] <ubotu> ed is the standard editor! ed, man! man ed!
[01:34] <N6REJ> Personally I LOVE PFE but they didn't make it for *nix
[01:34] <Nvidiot> once you know: hit 'i' to type stuff, then ESC ESC ESC to type ':q!' or ':wq' you're set :)
[01:34] <Nvidiot> ubotu: edlin!
[01:34] <ubotu> Nvidiot: Wish i knew
[01:34] <aftertaf> Nvidiot:  totally :)
[01:34] <poningru> !emacs
[01:34] <ubotu> poningru: Wish i knew
[01:34] <poningru> wtf
[01:34] <poningru> !emac
[01:34] <ubotu> poningru: I haven't a clue
[01:34] <aftertaf> !vim
[01:34] <ubotu> aftertaf: What?
[01:34] <bimberi> thoreauputic: stop adding fuel... :)
[01:34] <aftertaf> sacrilege............
[01:34] <thoreauputic> bimberi: heh
[01:35] <jip> poningru, can't get it working :(
[01:35] <cafuego_> !start an editor war
[01:35] <ubotu> kate is better than emacs
[01:35] <poningru> jip: hmm what does it say?
[01:35] <Nvidiot> lol, nice bot
[01:36] <jip> nothing
[01:36] <N6REJ> how is ubuntu anyway?  good for an old fart who can't remember half of what he use to know?
[01:36] <cafuego_> N6REJ: gui, desktop focused, easy.
[01:36] <N6REJ> I LOVE engarde, but for some reason, I can't configure the new 3.0 like I used to the older stuff.
[01:37] <N6REJ> any security gotcha's?
[01:37] <cafuego_> N6REJ: Not by default, no.
[01:37] <Whistler> N6REJ ubuntu is wonderful
[01:37] <N6REJ> cool
[01:37] <N6REJ> thats what I read so I thought I'd try it.
[01:37] <Whistler> it really yeasy to use. Even my mother can use it
[01:37] <N6REJ> brb adam is calling me
[01:37] <Nvidiot> now... this is probably going to be tricky, but I'd like to get hibernate/suspend working on my laptop. Where would I start ?
[01:38] <sorush20> is there an open source pdf viewer for windows,,
[01:38] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:38] <N6REJ> adam barfed!!!
[01:38] <aftertaf> sorush20:  loads
[01:38] <Whistler> sorush20 xpdf
[01:38] <N6REJ> base system won't install
[01:38] <Skid> i wrote a pdf viewer in vb once
[01:38] <Skid> man
[01:38] <Skid> school was fun :]
[01:38] <Paradoxx> hmm, how do i change ownership of a mount to my user?
[01:38] <Paradoxx> to current user rather..
[01:38] <poningru> jip: in your /proc/bus/input/devices
[01:38] <Whistler> Paradoxx chown
[01:38] <Skid> `chown' - Paradoxx
[01:38] <Whistler> :)
[01:38] <poningru> is there ia dvb|saa7134
[01:39] <N6REJ> p2 333 with 384mb ram, any special install flags?
[01:39] <poningru> a*
[01:39] <ivanoats> does anyone know where to download QT Designer?
[01:39] <jip> poningru, nope. only my keyboard, mouse and speaker
[01:39] <crimsun> apologies for the upcoming [slow]  flood
[01:39] <poningru> jip: hmm ic
[01:39] <cafuego_> N6REJ: Nope, should be fine.
[01:39] <jip> poningru, do you know what specific modules should be loaded?
[01:39] <aftertaf> ivanoats:  sudo apt-get install
[01:39] <N6REJ> hmmmmmmmmmm.......
[01:39] <poningru> jip: dont know trying to look through forums and mailing lists
[01:40] <poningru> http://www.pvrguide.no-ip.com/bbs-old/viewtopic.php?t=28843
[01:40] <N6REJ> let me try just a plain jane "ENTER" and see what that does.
[01:40] <antisocialboris> whoever told me to check out http:/wiki.ub... for java thanks a lot, just got it working
[01:40] <Skid> crimsun: are you part of the ubuntu team/prject?
[01:40] <crimsun> Skid: I'm a MOTU
[01:40] <Skid> which means..? :P
[01:40] <crimsun> we're the universe and multiverse maintainers
[01:40] <aftertaf> ivanoats:  but dont know name of package
[01:40] <Skid> ah
[01:40] <ivanoats> aftertaf - how do you find out the correct name of the package
[01:40] <Skid> oh that's cool
[01:40] <Skid> mind if I pm?
[01:40] <Skid> you may have an idea ;]
[01:41] <aftertaf> ivanoats:  try in synaptic.....
[01:41] <Skid> (re usages, not help like)
[01:41] <ScatterBrain> Skid: MOTU = Masters Of The Universe.
[01:41] <Skid> ahh, heman!
[01:41] <crimsun> Skid: if it's universe/multiverse-related, we have #ubuntu-motu
[01:41] <Paradoxx> so then to change owner it would b... chown -r Paradoxx /e
[01:41] <N6REJ> www.trolltech.com for QTD
[01:41] <Paradoxx> ??
[01:41] <ivanoats> aftertaf - yeah, did a search there, I think I need to add something to my sources? but where? Trolltech site is slightly useless
[01:41] <ivanoats> no download link
[01:41] <Skid> well, I may be looking to offload some transit - so was thinking of running a UK mirror service
[01:41] <aftertaf> !tell ivanoats about repositories
[01:41] <N6REJ> freshmeat.net?
[01:41] <poningru> jip: hold on
[01:42] <Skid> but was wondeirng how much (upper bound) transit they normally use
[01:42] <Skid> I dont mirror anything currently
[01:42] <ivanoats> good idea, checking freshmeat
[01:42] <Skid> i can't find owt on the ubuntu site, with regard to offering services either
[01:42] <Paradoxx> to change owner of a mount it would b... chown -r Paradoxx /e?
[01:43] <Skid> Paradoxx: that'd recursively change the whole contents of /e to the user 'paradoxx' yeah
[01:43] <kbrooks> So far so good
[01:44] <N6REJ> try this..... http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=qt&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
[01:44] <kbrooks> my system is up to date XD
[01:44] <Paradoxx> :D
[01:44] <Paradoxx> mission complete :D
[01:44] <Paradoxx> damn i love Linux...
[01:44] <Nvidiot> where would I start to get hibernate/suspend working on my laptop?
[01:45] <crimsun> Nvidiot: Hoary or Breezy?
[01:46] <N6REJ> "erase entire disk and partition" OR "erase entire disk and partition with LVM"?
[01:46] <Nvidiot> crimsun: 5.04, not the upcoming release
[01:46] <poningru> jip: do you knowwhat chipset is on that card dude?
[01:46] <Nvidiot> crimsun: if I should update to the upcoming one because it's much better, I don't have a problem with doing that if you'd tell me how :)
[01:47] <ivanoats> N6REJ thanks - I also searched "qt designer" - maybe qt designer is not gpl but there are two projects that may be similar
[01:47] <kbrooks> Nice
[01:47] <kbrooks> "About me" in breezy
[01:47] <crimsun> Nvidiot: you'd have to dump in a lot of infrastructure to get it working with Hoary, more than likely. It's better to try dist-upgrading to Breezy.
[01:47] <N6REJ> it used to be :(  sorry I couldn't help more
[01:47] <Nvidiot> crimsun: allright, no problem. Link? :)
[01:47] <poningru> jip: did you look through these?
[01:47] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//NovaTHowTo
[01:48] <kbrooks> I'd like a webserver that can be completely configured by a GUI
[01:48] <kbrooks> Ideas?
[01:48] <Nvidiot> at least now I use my 10 mbit link :P
[01:48] <N6REJ> do I want to partition with or without LVM?
[01:48] <Nvidiot> kbrooks: apache + webmin or so?
[01:48] <cafuego_> try a lobotomy
[01:48] <Zeke1> anybody know of a good file sharing prog?
[01:48] <jip> poningru, dmesg says Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T. WinTV
[01:48] <cafuego_> N6REJ: without
[01:48] <N6REJ> k
[01:48] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: no web, just a full GUI
[01:48] <BlueEagle> zeke1: proftpd?
[01:48] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: running in ubuntu
[01:49] <jip> poningru, cx88 obviously
[01:49] <kbrooks> like they have in i.e. redhat
[01:49] <Zeke1> Blue-Box, cool...another problem is i cant seem to get DVD's to play?
[01:49] <Nvidiot> kbrooks: oof, beats me. I just go trough the apache config file. it's not rocket science
[01:49] <cafuego_> kbrooks: Why would you run a potentially buggy root-holey GUI on a webserver machine?
[01:49] <N6REJ> yeah, webmin is the best way to go, just be sure to READ and keep it updated.
[01:49] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: ok, so you win
[01:49] <poningru> jip: did you look at that page I linked to?
[01:49] <kbrooks> and how do i remove all packages that *I* have installed
[01:50] <BlueEagle> jip: did you try http://www.google.com/search?q=Hauppauge+Nova-T+DVB-T.+WinTV+linux ?
[01:50] <crimsun> Nvidiot: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:50] <Nvidiot> crimsun: thanks
[01:51] <jip> BlueEagle, yes. been searching google for couple of hours now
[01:51] <Nvidiot> crimsun: /BreezyUpgrade seems to have info too :)
[01:51] <N6REJ> wahooooo.... 6% installed LOL
[01:51] <jip> poningru, the one about inputdev.sh? that's about the remote controller right?
[01:51] <poningru> no dude
[01:51] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NovaTHowTo]
[01:52] <jip> missed that link :P thanks. ima check it out
[01:52] <prower> I assume that one should probably wait until the 13th before upgrading to breezy on a stable machine :>
[01:52] <cafuego_> prower: That depends on how stable you want it.
[01:52] <poningru> jip: it seems you have to recompile your kernel with that
[01:53] <poningru> you sure you are upto it?
[01:53] <jip> damn. that sucks
[01:53] <cafuego_> prower: If it's a production box, wait for a month after that even.
[01:53] <poningru> cause I would just wait the 9 days and upgrade to breezy and have it run out of the box
[01:53] <jip> yeah sure, but i wonder is there a way without compiling
[01:53] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NovatBreezyHowto
[01:53] <poningru> jip: see what I mean
[01:54] <N6REJ> would someone tell me please if they get any kind of a webpage if they go to http://www.cogyfarm.com  you shouldn't yet, I just want to make sure.
[01:54] <jip> hmm
[01:55] <N6REJ> either you'll get nothing, or my router ( EEEK)
[01:55] <poningru> N6REJ: none
[01:55] <N6REJ> whew!
[01:55] <N6REJ> k
[01:55] <prower> cafuego_: Ahh, got it...well, I more or less meant "stable" as in installing the final version rather than one of the Colony releases :>
[01:55] <N6REJ> ty!
[01:55] <N6REJ> everytime I do it, I see my router config page and it freaks me out.
[01:55] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  network errer :)
[01:55] <jip> poningru, mmkay
[01:56] <Shin_Gouki> how do i start ALSA setup from shell?
[01:56] <N6REJ> DARN IT!!!! still get a "bootstap error"
[01:56] <Whistler> anyone else having probs with update?
[01:56] <Whistler> on breezy
[01:56] <aftertaf> nope Whistler what's your pb?
[01:56] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: what's the issue?
[01:57] <N6REJ> good md5 but bad install on breezy, should I fall back to hoary?
[01:57] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, plz the command for ALSA setup on shell , i have no sound i think its realated to that
[01:57] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[01:57] <Whistler> http://pastebin.com/382554
[01:58] <aftertaf> looking Whistler
[01:58] <Whistler> its something with gedit
[01:58] <Nvidiot> gotta love your own isp mirroring ubuntu :) 1+ mbyte/sec downloads :D
[01:59] <N6REJ> sweet!
[01:59] <aftertaf> Whistler:  nasty....  try       sudo apt-get -f install
[01:59] <jip> poningru, hmm. so if i install breezy preview version, it will work?
[01:59] <poningru> jip: yep
[01:59] <Whistler> aftertaf i get the same error
[01:59] <aftertaf> jip:  yep. works for a lot of us already
[01:59] <aftertaf> Whistler:  package maybe borked then... im on kde
[02:00] <Whistler> aftertaf k thx ill try to update later
[02:00] <_BIJ_> hi@all
[02:00] <jip> so what's the easiest way to upgrade to breezy without downloading the image?
[02:00] <aftertaf> Whistler:  dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archive/fullpackagename.deb maybe??
[02:00] <apokryphos> jip: /msg ubotu upgrade2breezy
[02:01] <Nvidiot> jip: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:01] <jip> \o/
[02:01] <_BIJ_> i need some information about the new release...
[02:01] <Paradoxx> how do you remove a package that you have installed via command line?
[02:01] <jip> thanks guys
[02:01] <aftertaf> Paradoxx:  apt-get remove
[02:01] <_BIJ_> apt-get remove
[02:01] <d33p> how do I pass my linux ubuntu partitions from ext2 to ext3?
[02:01] <apokryphos> Paradoxx: very vague; what package, and with what?
[02:02] <aftertaf> lol apokryphos :)
[02:02] <Paradoxx> it was a .deb that i installed
[02:02] <Paradoxx> and i wanna remove it now
[02:02] <d33p> my gnome desktop isn't refreshing correctly, move files out of the desktop to other folders and they "look" as if they were there but they aren't
[02:02] <heatxsink> poningru:  ?
[02:02] <apokryphos> Paradoxx: apt is fine then, or even dpkg
[02:02] <heatxsink> poningru:  I'm running breezy and that didn't quite work right
[02:03] <poningru> heatxsink: ?
[02:03] <catfox> d33p, make sure you have gamin or fam running
[02:03] <poningru> heatxsink: wait what exactly happend?
[02:03] <heatxsink> poningru:  for some reason I couldn't access the same screens
[02:03] <Whistler> can anyone remind me where sources.list is located?
[02:03] <Whistler> i allways forget
[02:03] <Nvidiot> Whistler: /etc/apt/
[02:04] <aftertaf> /etc/apt/
[02:04] <Whistler> thx
[02:04] <avalost> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:04] <poningru> heatxsink: what do you meant the same screens?
[02:04] <Nvidiot> you can of course type 'locate sources.list' :)
[02:04] <avalost> woah, lag
[02:04] <aftertaf> fair point Nvidiot
[02:05] <avalost> sheesh, ever other day there's a new kernel out..
[02:05] <avalost> every, rather
[02:05] <heatxsink> nm
[02:05] <heatxsink> moron
[02:05] <sorush20> is there an open source firewall around
[02:05] <avalost> sorush20, yes, tons
[02:05] <aftertaf> sorush20:  loads
[02:06] <aftertaf> :))
[02:06] <avalost> gShield, Shorewall, Firestarter, ipkungfu
[02:06] <Whistler> sorush20 firestarter is good one
[02:06] <Belutz> sorush20, a lots
[02:06] <avalost> fwbuilder
[02:06] <Belutz> :D
[02:06] <darkmatter> sorush20: firestarter has a package in the repos
[02:06] <poningru> hmm why doesnt my cwd work?
[02:06] <sorush20> sorry.. open source firewall for windows, its cause my sister doesn't like ubuntu so she has xp on her pc
[02:06] <nalioth> sorush20: there is no firewall. there is iptables http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[02:06] <poningru> command not found
[02:07] <Zeke1> how do u close an app that doesnt wanna close?
[02:07] <thoreauputic> poningru: pwd
[02:07] <Whistler> Zeke1 ctrl+c
[02:07] <Whistler> maube
[02:07] <Whistler> maybe
[02:07] <poningru> thoreauputic: doh
[02:07] <avalost> Zeke1, or you can kill the pid
[02:07] <Zeke1> Whistler, tried that didnt work
[02:07] <avalost> try to avoid using signal -9
[02:07] <Whistler> Zeke1 killall name
[02:07] <poningru> thoreauputic: thanks man
[02:07] <Whistler> or sudo killall name
[02:08] <sorush20> sorry.. open source firewall for windows, its cause my sister doesn't like ubuntu so she has xp on her pc
[02:08] <darkmatter> Zeke1: killall <appname>
[02:08] <Nvidiot> sorush20: I don't know of any open source firewalls for windows
[02:08] <avalost> sorush20, i have yet to see anything 'opensource' for windows
[02:08] <Zeke1> darkmatter, yeah tried that too...just says no process killed
[02:09] <Nvidiot> avalost: firefox? Openoffice? the stack of gnu tools?
[02:09] <avalost> I have seen free firewalls, nothing opensource though
[02:09] <avalost> Nvidiot, what?
[02:09] <darkmatter> Zeke1: which app?
[02:09] <Zeke1> mplayer
[02:09] <avalost> what about them?
[02:09] <queuetue_> Hello, is anyone here from Montreal?  I'm a new transplant and would like to ask some information about finding tech resources in the city...
[02:09] <Zeke1> darkmatter, by the way do u use anon-proxy by any chance
[02:09] <Nvidiot> avalost: ah never mind, I thought you said you didn't see anything opensource for windows. But you were referring to firewalls in particular :)
[02:09] <Paradoxx> how do you see list of pakages installed with dpkg?
[02:10] <darkmatter> Zeke1:no
[02:10] <apokryphos> Paradoxx: dpkg -l
[02:10] <Zeke1> darkmatter, is it wise to use it?
[02:10] <Paradoxx> how do i output it into a file >.<
[02:10] <Paradoxx> lol
[02:10] <Nvidiot> Paradoxx: command > file
[02:10] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i install ALSA from shell?
[02:11] <Nvidiot> Paradoxx: or: command | more  if you want a paged output to the screen
[02:11] <apokryphos> Paradoxx: to search it just dpkg -l|grep PATTERN
[02:11] <darkmatter> Zeke1:not sure. I don't use proxy period. sorry...
[02:11] <avalost> ok, kernel upgrade..
[02:12] <Shin_Gouki> plz someone how do i setup ALSA from shell?
[02:12] <Paradoxx> to remove a package is? dpkg -R packagename?
[02:12] <Nvidiot> Paradoxx: man dpkg
[02:12] <thoreauputic> Paradoxx: lower case -r
[02:12] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: did you ever tell me what the output was for the command I gave you?
[02:13] <mahangu> heatxsink, that's really smart, dissing the guy who's helping you
[02:13] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, there wasnt any it simply did proceed?
[02:13] <Nvidiot> crimsun: installing packages now :)
[02:13] <n1315> ubuntu???
[02:13] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: how old is your computer?
[02:13] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, P 233
[02:13] <N6REJ> <------- reinstalling from start for the 4th time :(
[02:13] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: lspnp -v output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, please
[02:13] <Shin_Gouki> kk
[02:14] <nalioth> N6REJ: perhaps you'd want to check your md5sums
[02:14] <N6REJ> I did, they matched perfectly.
[02:14] <nalioth> N6REJ: cuz it is unusual to have to install so many times
[02:14] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  maybe bad ram or sth then
[02:14] <N6REJ> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:14] <Shin_Gouki> crimsum , here result : -bash: lspnp: command not found
[02:15] <aftertaf> lol N6REJ
[02:15] <N6REJ> I could do a memtest I guess.
[02:15] <nalioth> N6REJ: perhaps burn another cd at achingly slow speed
[02:15] <_mindspin> would be my guess too
[02:15] <_mindspin> helped me sometimes
[02:15] <d33p> how do I pass my partitions from ext2 to ext3 in ubuntu?
[02:15] <N6REJ> when I told ubuntu to check the cd, it said there was a issue with one of the installer files, but the md5 matched sooo.
[02:16] <aftertaf> or get debian net installer cd and change sources to ubuntu
[02:16] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: please install pcmcia-cs
[02:16] <Nvidiot> d33p: not sure if it's even possible without formatting
[02:16] <N6REJ> thats a thought too.
[02:16] <nalioth> N6REJ: well there ya go
[02:16] <onkarshinde> which repos contains elinks - text browser?
[02:16] <Shin_Gouki> crimsum, its an PCI soundcard... do i need pcmcia support..?
[02:16] <AaMiRaH> hi
[02:16] <onkarshinde> !info elinks
[02:16] <ubotu> elinks: (Character mode WWW/FTP browser), section web, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1189 kB, Installed size: 2916 kB
[02:16] <N6REJ> ok, let me reburn the ISO.
[02:16] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: if it's a pci sound card, the output should be in lspci -v|grep -i audio
[02:17] <nalioth> onkarshinde: the default ones
[02:17] <d33p> Nvidiot, but does ubuntu give the option in the installation to use ext3 instead of ext2?
[02:17] <Shin_Gouki> crimsum, ur right my bad! its an ISA soundcard..so?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> d33p: ext3 is default
[02:17] <Nvidiot> d33p: I don't know, I did a rather hacked install from a knoppix-std cd, used reiserfs
[02:17] <Shin_Gouki> crimsum, do i need to stick with OSS?
[02:18] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: so install pcmcia-cs, run lspnp -v, and paste the output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:18] <onkarshinde> nalioth: Ok. But which of the main and universe?
[02:18] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: it's in main according to ubotu
[02:19] <d33p> Nvidiot, did the change in tunefs but now doubting that the ubuntu kernel has support for ext3, might have to configure/install my own kernel
[02:19] <Shin_Gouki> how do i install
[02:19] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: which apt-cache policy elinks confirms here
[02:19] <PoBK> anyone had any problems with breezy and gnome panel not displaying applications or keyboard shortcuts not working anymore?
[02:19] <Nvidiot> d33p: well, according to thoreauputic ext3 is default, so the default kernel should work I suppose
[02:20] <thoreauputic> d33p: the default is defnitely ext3
[02:20] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: Thanks
[02:20] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, idid install it plz explain a bit more detailed what to do now? what do u mean with paste putput?
[02:20] <d33p> thoreauputic, don't understand why I choose ext2 then, well, will have to reinstall ubuntu, it was a little broken anyway
[02:21] <onkarshinde> Can anyone guide me any all-in-one shell scripting guide? Specifically if there is a one for Solaris?
[02:21] <d33p> if I reinstall ubuntu and I had a different partition for /home, in the install can I choose to use a partition as /home but not format it?
[02:21] <thoreauputic> d33p: you don't have to reinstall to add a journal to ext2
[02:21] <ompaul> d33p, yes
[02:21] <d33p> ompaul, ok thanks
[02:22] <d33p> thoreauputic, I know I know, did tune2fs but lets see if it works well
[02:22] <Shin_Gouki> how do i get an ISA Sound Card to work?
[02:22] <thoreauputic> d33p: did you uae the -j option ?
[02:22] <Nvidiot> Shin_Gouki: the command you had to run gives some text output. put that output on the website you got and give us the link
[02:22] <thoreauputic> *use
[02:23] <d33p> thoreauputic, yes
[02:23] <Shin_Gouki> k i will
[02:23] <thoreauputic> d33p: should be fine then
[02:23] <n1315> how long does it usualy take before the cds r send?
[02:23] <Necron> Ubuntu live CD crashes when "mounting linux" on my notebook. any ideas?
[02:23] <d33p> thoreauputic, let's see, how do I install a pctv pci card on ubuntu?
[02:23] <Whistler> n1315 2 weeks
[02:23] <mahangu> n1315, here to sri lanka it took a few weeks
[02:23] <onkarshinde> If linux likes to use all the RAM available the will using 512 RAM instead of 128 increase performance 4 times?
[02:23] <n1315> ty
[02:23] <thoreauputic> d33p: I haven't a clue :)
[02:23] <n1315> HOLLAND!! :p
[02:23] <mahangu> onkarshinde, depends on the programs you run etc
[02:24] <d33p> anybody knows how to install a pctv pci card on ubuntu?
[02:24] <d33p> thoreauputic, thanks for the help =)
[02:24] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:24] <Necron> Ubuntu live CD crashes when "mounting linux" on my notebook. any ideas?
[02:24] <mahangu> Necron, try boot options
[02:24] <mahangu> there is a boot option for troublesome notebooks
[02:24] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: don't know about 4 times, but it will make a*big* difference
[02:25] <mahangu> press F2
[02:25] <onkarshinde> mahangu: Ok, how about a normal desktop running a media player along with some game like robots
[02:25] <mahangu> and the other function keys
[02:25] <mahangu> onkarshinde, 128mb should be fine
[02:25] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, nvidiot which name should the post be?
[02:25] <mahangu> if you're running heavy graphics etc, some extra ram may help
[02:25] <Nvidiot> Shin_Gouki: anything, doesn't really matter
[02:26] <thoreauputic> mahangu: 512MB will be *much* more responsive than 128
[02:26] <mahangu> thoreauputic, i agree, what i was saying is that for what he's doing, it's not essential
[02:26] <n1315> is there an server version of ubuntu??
[02:26] <mister_roboto> 128mb will SUCK if you're using one of the heavy desktops
[02:26] <thoreauputic> mahangu: OK :)
[02:26] <mahangu> mister_roboto, ive run gnome on 128mb just fine
[02:26] <mahangu> but im not sure if you consider that "heavy:
[02:26] <mahangu> "
[02:26] <mister_roboto> sure as long as you don't run anything else!
[02:26] <mister_roboto> :)
[02:26] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, nvidiot there u go: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2753
[02:27] <mahangu> :)
[02:27] <mister_roboto> gnome, kde = heavy
[02:27] <mahangu> kde is TEH heavy
[02:27] <Shin_Gouki> i have 128 MB
[02:27] <mahangu> i agree
[02:27] <mahangu> i like gnome
[02:27] <Shin_Gouki> with Icewm its pretty fast
[02:27] <bimberi> n1315: you can do a "server install" yes
[02:28] <n1315> k..
[02:28] <AlphaFaction> Hey gyes, ive just put ubuntu on my pc for the first time, unlike dropline it does not seem to be automounting my drives at boot instead wating for me to double click on them to mount them. is their a way to automount my fat32 partitions befre the desktop loads?
[02:28] <Whistler> AlphaFaction yep it is
[02:29] <Whistler> AlphaFaction read ubuntuguide.org
[02:29] <onkarshinde> AlphaFaction: Ever played with /etc/fstab?
[02:29] <AlphaFaction> i have
[02:29] <AlphaFaction> ok ill look into
[02:29] <nalioth> Whistler: please dont advise that
[02:29] <AlphaFaction> thanks for the pointer
[02:29] <thoreauputic> !tell AlphaFaction about mountwindows
[02:29] <dim_witted_kid> i'm having problems with my browser
[02:29] <nalioth> AlphaFaction: dont go there, please
[02:29] <Whistler> nalioth sorry but i think that ubuntuguide is good for ppl
[02:29] <dim_witted_kid> i think whenever it encounters flash thingies my browser crashes
[02:30] <mirak> is there a way to detach a X remote session ?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> AlphaFaction: ubuntuguide is kind of out of date and you might break things
[02:30] <AlphaFaction> sure thing, thanks allot for the help
[02:30] <lorenzo> it
[02:30] <dim_witted_kid> i've used several browsers like galeon ff and mozilla
[02:30] <lorenzo> ops
[02:30] <mirak> like with VNC
[02:30] <mirak> VNC sucks
[02:30] <lorenzo> sorry
[02:30] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, nvidiot there u go: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2753 ,still my ISA sounds card issue
[02:30] <Whistler> nalioth but anyway ok i will do it.
[02:30] <nalioth> Whistler: it WAS good for people when warty was out and hoary was new, but now it's old and will kill your box
[02:30] <thoreauputic> Whistler: we have to pick up the pieces here...
[02:30] <Whistler> k sorry
[02:30] <onkarshinde> mirak: I don't think VNC sucks.
[02:30] <dim_witted_kid> anyone?
[02:31] <onkarshinde> dim_witted_kid: Please provide more details, whcih version of FF? Have you installed flash?
[02:31] <mirak> onkarshinde: yes it does, it's slow as hell in comparison of a X remote session
[02:31] <mister_roboto> dim_witted_kid: bad flash plugin?
[02:31] <Whistler> nalioth so i should reccomend ubuntu wiki wright?
[02:31] <thoreauputic> !tell mirak about freenx
[02:31] <dim_witted_kid> i haven't installed flash yet
[02:31] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: ok, that's not too helpful.
[02:31] <mirak> thoreauputic: well exept freenx ...
[02:32] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: What type of computer (make & model)?
[02:32] <dim_witted_kid> when i go to sites like neopets.com which uses flash
[02:32] <thoreauputic> mirak: freenx rocks
[02:32] <dim_witted_kid> my browser crashes
[02:32] <nalioth> Whistler: or ubotu factoids
[02:32] <mirak> thoreauputic: yes
[02:32] <mylastmorning> can anyone help me with the mp3 codecs?
[02:32] <mirak> thoreauputic: however when I tried it I couldn't resume a session
[02:32] <mister_roboto> mirak: it's a lot easier to see your windows desktop on your unix machine using VNC rather than remote X session ;)
[02:32] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, the sound card is old atztech, the Computer model is a P 233
[02:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about mp3
[02:32] <onkarshinde> dim_witted_kid: So try to install flash first. Make sure your browser is updated and report back.
[02:32] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: need specifics
[02:32] <Kuku> hi
[02:32] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, mother board or soundcard specifics?
[02:33] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: sound chipset
[02:33] <Shin_Gouki> kk
[02:33] <mylastmorning> nalioth that package is not avaible anymore.
[02:33] <mirak> mister_roboto: yes, they is no alternative. though there is a freenx server. RDP have not bad performances
[02:34] <mylastmorning> does anyone use mp3's?
[02:34] <Zeke1> how do you get dvd's to play in ubuntu i am having problems with totem and mplayer
[02:34] <barosl> is DirectFB "faster" than Xorg?
[02:35] <mister_roboto> mylastmorning: i don't think anyone does, no
[02:35] <Whistler> mylastmorning i do
[02:35] <nalioth> mylastmorning: ubotu sent you a msg
[02:35] <mylastmorning> Whistler how do you get it to work?
[02:35] <mylastmorning> nalioth that package is gone
[02:35] <nalioth> mylastmorning: really? gstreamer0.8-mad?
[02:35] <silent_scream> !faq
[02:35] <Whistler> mylastmorning sudo apt-get install xmms
[02:35] <ubotu> well, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[02:35] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, i just found an PCI soundcard i stick it in them il be back, till in about 15 min!!
[02:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about sources
[02:35] <Nvidiot> I installed gstreamer0.8-mad a few mins ago
[02:35] <mylastmorning> ...
[02:35] <nalioth> mylastmorning: enable your sources
[02:35] <Whistler> and use it to play your mp3`s
[02:36] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, thx for ur support so far
[02:36] <mister_roboto> that package is in my cache
[02:36] <mister_roboto> (for hoary)
[02:36] <Zeke1> anybody use DVD's in ubuntu
[02:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Zeke1 about dvd
[02:36] <mylastmorning> I've already enabled my sources nalioth.
[02:36] <mylastmorning> and its still not their. :-(
[02:37] <nalioth> mylastmorning: then you should see the pkg
[02:37] <nalioth> mylastmorning: then d/l it from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:37] <mylastmorning> how do I do that nalioth
[02:37] <mylastmorning> I'm still learning sorry...
[02:37] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: you updated, right?
[02:37] <BiSK-8> hello
[02:37] <Nvidiot> ohoh
[02:37] <Nvidiot> xml parser error
[02:37] <mylastmorning> yeah I am thoreauputic
[02:37] <BiSK-8> how do i uninstall a program through apt-get?
[02:38] <mylastmorning> apt-get remove
[02:38] <abyss_> !tnt2
[02:38] <ubotu> abyss_: Are you smoking crack?
[02:38] <BiSK-8> but the directories stay
[02:38] <mylastmorning> BiSk-8 you type apt-get remove package
[02:38] <Nvidiot> hm, it continues
[02:38] <BiSK-8> i know
[02:38] <BiSK-8> i tried
[02:38] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: if you can't find gstreamer0.8-mad, your sources are wrong or you need to run sudo apt-get update
[02:38] <BiSK-8> but the directories stay where they were
[02:39] <abyss_> anone knows how i get my tnt2 m64 card with 3d support?
[02:39] <BiSK-8> any other way 2 remove things?
[02:39] <abyss_> ive installed the nvidia-legacy but wont work
[02:39] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: breezy or hoary?
[02:39] <nalioth> BiSK-8: what are you wanting to do?
[02:39] <Nvidiot> abyss_: install the nvidia driver?
[02:39] <mylastmorning> thoreauputic ok whats next? apt-get gstreamer0.8-mad?
[02:40] <BiSK-8> nalioth: im tryin' 2 remove a package
[02:40] <mylastmorning> thorrauputic whats that?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:40] <kingos> is there a bug channel for ubuntu?
[02:40] <mylastmorning> BiSK-8 what is the package you wish to remove?
[02:40] <BiSK-8> apache2 and apache
[02:40] <mylastmorning> oh gosh
[02:40] <BiSK-8> :D
[02:40] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: if that succeeds, play an mp3 with music player or totem
[02:41] <abyss_> Nvidiot, ive done all but wont work
[02:41] <RonaldH> Hi, Any ideas on powernowd; the pentium 3 'coppermine' on a 440BX speedsteps with around half a second lag in responsiveness, and the powernowd pretty frequently feels like stepping the cpu... which is very anoying...
[02:41] <Whistler> sorry for double post
[02:41] <BiSK-8> mylastmorning: i woud like 2 remove it and reinstall it
[02:41] <mylastmorning> thoreauputic, this is what it says E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:41] <BiSK-8> apache wont work
[02:41] <mirak> thoreauputic: it fails for ppc
[02:41] <Nvidiot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:41] <mylastmorning> would you like to SSH?
[02:41] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: oh this is ppc?
[02:41] <BiSK-8> yes
[02:42] <dim_witted_kid> any other repository source i could use?
[02:42] <mister_roboto> mylastmorning: http://pastebin.com/382577     that is my /etc/apt/sources.list, which has the package
[02:42] <nalioth> thoreauputic: gstreamer plugins work on ppc
[02:42] <mirak> thoreauputic: yes
[02:42] <mister_roboto> mylastmorning: not sure where it actually is
[02:42] <thoreauputic> nalioth: that's what I thought
[02:42] <kingos> which channel should I join to discuss a possible bug?
[02:43] <BiSK-8> mylastmorning: yes, i would like ssh if possibile
[02:43] <mylastmorning> not u BiSK-8
[02:43] <BiSK-8> oh
[02:43] <mylastmorning> mister_roboto, where should I look to find the mp3 codecs?
[02:43] <BiSK-8> mylastmorning: so what should i do to uninstall apache and apache2 and all files like ssl etc?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: I would check your sources again - or look at the ones ubotu spits out (from the last URLs)
[02:44] <thoreauputic> !sources
[02:44] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[02:44] <nalioth> BiSK-8: use synaptic
[02:44] <avalost> !e17
[02:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, e17 is the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org
[02:44] <mylastmorning> can you help me do that thoreauputic?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: I assume you are using hoary - cat /etc/issue to see
[02:44] <mirak> thoreauputic: I can't even get the sources
[02:45] <mister_roboto> mylastmorning: sorry, i'm not sure.  i remember finding the via google long ago.
[02:45] <thoreauputic> mirak: ?
[02:45] <mylastmorning> thoreauputic I don't know what hoary is.
[02:45] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: what does cat /etc/issue  say ?
[02:45] <BiSK-8> naolith: how, ive never used it
[02:45] <mylastmorning> 1 sec
[02:46] <nalioth> BiSK-8: system > admin > synaptic pkg mangler
[02:46] <nalioth> BiSK-8: it is SOOO easy
[02:46] <BiSK-8> okokok
[02:46] <BiSK-8> i got it
[02:46] <BiSK-8> :D
[02:46] <BiSK-8> thought it was terminal based
[02:46] <mylastmorning> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l thoreauputic
[02:46] <nalioth> BiSK-8: that is aptitude
[02:46] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: OK as I thought
[02:46] <ales_italia> PROBLEM WITH SUSPEND TO RAM: I follow the wiki, i insert the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support, then i've rebooted the machine, but when i tried to suspend it, it doesn't work. The screnn is black but the machine doesn't shut down. I can resume it, but i can't shutdown complete or reboot it. I use gnome-power-manager. Any ideas?
[02:47] <mylastmorning> ok so what do I do thoreauputic?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: so grab the url above for hoary and paste it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:47] <thoreauputic> !tell mylastmorning about sources
[02:47] <BiSK-8> naolith: in synaptic there is no apache or apache2
[02:47] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: it's in your msg es now
[02:47] <mylastmorning> what url thoreauputic?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> ^^^
[02:48] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: check your pm msg es
[02:48] <nalioth> BiSK-8: really? then you dont have to remove anything
[02:48] <mylastmorning> ok thoreaputic
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> hey guys ... is it me or the package lint is missing from the repos ???
[02:48] <BiSK-8> naolith, sry, i found it
[02:49] <mattaion> hello, can someone tell from where i can get a codec package fpr mp3, divx...
[02:49] <mylastmorning> should I replace or add this stuff thoreauputic?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[02:50] <ubotu> [mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[02:50] <ales_italia> PROBLEM WITH SUSPEND TO RAM: I follow the wiki, i insert the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support, then i've rebooted the machine, but when i tried to suspend it, it doesn't work. The screnn is black but the machine doesn't shut down. I can resume it, but i can't shutdown complete or reboot it. I use gnome-power-manager. Any ideas?
[02:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mattaion about restricted
[02:51] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: replace - do cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old then sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, delete what you have and paste the file in, save
[02:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mattaion about w32codecs
[02:51] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: actually that' only one way, but it should work OK
[02:52] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: the cp command needs sudo as well, sorry
[02:52] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: so first do the backup:  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[02:53] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: then do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove it, paste the list from the URL and save it
[02:54] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: then  sudo apt-get update
[02:57] <mylastmorning> thoreauputic. would you like to SSH in. I'm lost.
[02:57] <Big> Hello?
[02:57] <mylastmorning> hi
[02:57] <Big> Hi
[02:57] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: well, asking complete strangers to ssh to your machine with root access isn't really a good idea :)
[02:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about apt
[02:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about synaptic
[02:58] <Big> how do I find out what firewall I have running now?
[02:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mylastmorning about repos
[02:58] <nalioth> Big: there are no firewalls in ubuntu by default
[02:59] <Big> I could of swore there was, must have been PcLinuxOS
[02:59] <Big> I'm back to Ubntu
[02:59] <ales_italia> PROBLEM WITH SUSPEND TO RAM: I follow the wiki, i insert the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support, then i've rebooted the machine, but when i tried to suspend it, it doesn't work. The screnn is black but the machine doesn't shut down. I can resume it, but i can't shutdown complete or reboot it. I use gnome-power-manager. Any ideas?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: most likely you don't have an ssh server running anyway, unless you installed it
[03:00] <trunks_> i ve got a pb with ccmake (CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER_FULLPATH-NOTFOUND was not
[03:00] <trunks_>  found in your path)
[03:00] <confrey> hi everybody
[03:00] <toran> hey guys, I just rebuilt a couple programs with "apt-source -b". I installed the resulting packages, but now whenever I do "apt-get upgrade" it wants to "update" those packages back to the default version. How can I keep this from happenning
[03:00] <mylastmorning> got it thoreauputic
[03:00] <trunks_> somebody can help me?
[03:00] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: good :)
[03:00] <admin__> how do i dc my own nickname?
[03:00] <Big> anyone know what repository Firestarter and Synergy are in?
[03:01] <mylastmorning> now what thoreauputic?
[03:01] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: so you've got a workable list and updated it?
[03:01] <mylastmorning> yes thoreauputic
[03:01] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: OK well now you should find the packages
[03:02] <mylastmorning> what should I type thoreauputic?
[03:02] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: what does   apt-cache search gstreamer0.8-mad   say now ?
[03:02] <nalioth> mylastmorning: run synaptic
[03:02] <nalioth> mylastmorning: system > admin > synaptic
[03:03] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: what nalioth suggests might be more comfortable for you
[03:03] <elc3> hi guys
[03:03] <mylastmorning> I got it... ^_^
[03:03] <Nvidiot> suspend to ram seems to work... now testing hibernate
[03:03] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: so install that package
[03:03] <ales_italia> PROBLEM WITH SUSPEND TO RAM: I follow the wiki, i insert the line ACPI_SLEEP=TRUE in the /etc/default/acpi-support, then i've rebooted the machine, but when i tried to suspend it, it doesn't work. The screnn is black but the machine doesn't shut down. I can resume it, but i can't shutdown complete or reboot it. I use gnome-power-manager. Any ideas?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:03] <jip> poningru, i managed to upgrade to Breezy. so now my dvb-card should work without recompiling kernel? :P
[03:04] <Nvidiot> hibernate causes a non-clean shutdown :(
[03:04] <dim_witted_kid> i have a question
[03:04] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: once you have that try playing an mp3 in music player
[03:04] <dim_witted_kid> i was trying to install jre
[03:04] <trunks_> i've got sound pb
[03:04] <mahangu> when i close my laptop, my wifi dies
[03:04] <mahangu> any ideas?
[03:04] <mylastmorning> yay!!!! it works ^_^  ^_^ ^_^
[03:04] <trunks_> can anybody help me?
[03:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dim_witted_kid about javadeb
[03:04] <Nvidiot> mahangu: don't close your laptop :P
[03:05] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: :)))
[03:05] <dim_witted_kid> then it keeps on saying that it's unable to find the package
[03:05] <mahangu> Nvidiot, sleep my friend, sleep
[03:05] <nalioth> dim_witted_kid: see ubotu's msg
[03:06] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: now have fun browsing in synaptic for thousands of goodies :)
[03:06] <Nvidiot> Where would I look to try to get hibernate to work on my laptop?
[03:06] <ales_italia> what kind of laptop?
[03:06] <erchache> i have a problem with apt....i have broken references...how i can solve it?
[03:06] <mahangu> mylastmorning, you're going to waste LOTS of time there, take it from me
[03:07] <Nvidiot> ales_italia: Dell Inspiron 8200
[03:07] <Nvidiot> ales_italia: suspend to ram works once I did the nvidia driver settings change, hibernate causes a non-clean shutdown
[03:08] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: don't bother thanking anyone, by the way - we volunteers are all  well paid :/
[03:08] <ales_italia> i've problem with suspend_to_ram but i've seen this mornign a web page about it....wait a moment
[03:08] <toran> hey guys, I just rebuilt a couple programs with "apt-source -b". I installed the resulting packages, but now whenever I do "apt-get upgrade" it wants to "update" those packages back to the default version. How can I keep this from happenning
[03:09] <mylastmorning> back ^_^ thank you all, thoreauputic and nalioth
[03:09] <thoreauputic> mylastmorning: you're welcome :)
[03:09] <herzi> i have two network connections, how to i tell that the one on eth2 doesn't overrite the default route of pp0?
[03:10] <poningru> jip: did it work?
[03:12] <ales_italia> Nvidiot?
[03:12] <Nvidiot> ales_italia: yes ?
[03:12] <ales_italia> maybe you can find something on hte ubuntuforums....looking for hibernate dell
[03:12] <ales_italia> try it
[03:12] <Nvidiot> okay I will, once I get my wlan0 working again...
[03:12] <Nvidiot> that just magically went boinkers
[03:13] <atomic_UE> Anyone know of a good GUI partitioning tool besides qtparted?
[03:13] <jip> poningru, nope. breezyhowto just says that "So install MyhtTV follow the guide on NovaTHowTo". that's hard because it can't find no devices
[03:13] <toran> atomic_UE: gparted?
[03:13] <toran> lol
[03:13] <ales_italia> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54375&highlight=hibernate+dell
[03:13] <ales_italia> try it
[03:13] <Nvidiot> ales_italia: thanks :)
[03:13] <ales_italia> :)
[03:13] <ales_italia> no problem
[03:14] <ales_italia> ...now i've to solve my problem....
[03:14] <atomic_UE> Fedora/Redhat have Disk Druid, but it's not available outside of the redhat/fedora installer, and Mandriva has diskdrake, but that's only available for Mandriva systems :\
[03:14] <Ubuntu> help!
[03:14] <ales_italia> maybe it depends on my ati driver
[03:14] <Ubuntu> mi ubuntu no conecta a internet
[03:14] <Ubuntu> pero si responde a ping  <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:14] <nalioth> !es
[03:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:14] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , still there?
[03:14] <Ubuntu> gracias :p
[03:15] <Hubert> welcome :)
[03:15] <Zeke1> i cant seem to get libdvdcss2...can somone perhaps help me?
[03:15] <nalioth> Zeke1: /msg ubotu hoary-extras
[03:15] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i got a nasty problem :/
[03:15] <Nvidiot> that was weird
[03:15] <ales_italia> Ciao Shin_Gouki
[03:15] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: yes?
[03:15] <Nvidiot> but wlan0 works again now
[03:15] <Cryptid> Is there a .mpeg to .avi converter for ubuntu with which i can also change the resolution of the videos
[03:16] <Zeke1> nalioth,  what?
[03:16] <nalioth> Cryptid: transcode
[03:16] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: yes?
[03:16] <nalioth> Zeke1: type /msg ubotu hoary-extras
[03:16] <Nvidiot> Zeke1: grab it manually, lemme digup the url
[03:16] <Cryptid> nalioth, ok i will try
[03:17] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, i tried to get ISA Soundcard to get working... but then i foiund a PCI card, i took off the ISA card & build in the PCI but that killed my NIC config...
[03:17] <Cryptid> nalioth, can i change the resolution of the vid with it
[03:17] <nalioth> Cryptid: transcode is a full featured app
[03:17] <Nvidiot> Zeke1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67655
[03:17] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, so try to get PCI get workin or back to ISA?
[03:18] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, ATM im on without ANY soundcard
[03:18] <Zeke1> Nvidiot, and then instal it manually
[03:18] <StylusEater_Work> will broadcom every release the specs for the powerbook wireless or do I need to invest in a usb dongle?
[03:18] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: putting things back to the way they were would be a choice
[03:18] <nalioth> StylusEater_Work: invest
[03:18] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, but i also think PCI is better
[03:18] <StylusEater_Work> nailoth: hmmm...best card?
[03:18] <mahangu> how can i mv the entire contents of a folder
[03:18] <mahangu> including all subfolders?
[03:18] <mylastmorning> does anyone know the packages to make gnome pretty?
[03:19] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, is there any way to say to ubuntu: look for new HW?
[03:19] <StylusEater_Work> mahangu: mv -r
[03:19] <StylusEater_Work> me thinks
[03:19] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, i mean EXPLICIT and long
[03:19] <nalioth> StylusEater_Work: netgear ma111 is reported to work
[03:19] <StylusEater_Work> nailoth: danke
[03:19] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, some kind of Hardware scan modus, which i may activate
[03:19] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: what's your pci card?
[03:19] <StylusEater_Work> mahangu: work? you can also try 'man mv'
[03:20] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, its a terratec DMX Xfire its fine
[03:20] <mahangu> StylusEater_Work, thanks, how can i get the filesizes of all files ina dir?
[03:20] <HiddenFly> is ubuntu able to install from rpm package?
[03:20] <thoreauputic> mahangu: du
[03:20] <StylusEater_Work> mahangu: ls -ls should work
[03:20] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, i need a whole new Hardware scan for the system is this only by reinstalling possible?
[03:20] <GDorn> HiddenFly: look at alien
[03:20] <StylusEater_Work> mahangu: ls -lsd if you want to see dirs too
[03:20] <Nvidiot> Zeke1: grab the .deb from that url, do dpkg -i file.deb
[03:20] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: that card uses the snd-cs46xx chipset
[03:20] <HiddenFly> GDorn: alien?
[03:20] <mahangu> thanks guys
[03:20] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: it should work just fine under Ubuntu
[03:21] <StylusEater_Work> mahangu: np
[03:21] <mahangu> im transfering files to USB
[03:21] <mahangu> in anticipation of giving this machine back to work
[03:21] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, if i plug it into the configutration it kills my Network configuration
[03:21] <thoreauputic> mahangu: du -h for a more readable output
[03:21] <RonaldH> Hi, Any ideas on powernowd; the pentium 3 'coppermine' on a 440BX speedsteps with around half a second lag in responsiveness, and the powernowd pretty frequently feels like stepping the cpu... which is very anoying...
[03:21] <mylastmorning> does anyone know the packages to make gnome pretty?
[03:21] <nalioth> HiddenFly: it's best not to use rpms
[03:21] <confrey> how can I use pcmcia with my laptop? it doesn't work with breeze, neither with hoary, sagre, knoppix
[03:21] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun, plz read the text i directed towards U & nalioth
[03:22] <Zeke1> Nvidiot, you dont perhaps know where the 64bit version would be?
[03:22] <yancheng> helo, may i noe for geforce4, is it asus product or nvidia product?
[03:22] <Nvidiot> Zeke1: I did notice that a script that came with libdvdread grabbed libdvdcss2
[03:23] <Nvidiot> yancheng: nvidia makes the main chip, Asus creates the board around the chip
[03:23] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, on startup of ubuntu thers a point: sync clock with**** when the PCI card is inside it fails
[03:23] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: do you have additional free pci slots?
[03:23] <yancheng> nvidiot: ah! thanks!
[03:23] <Zeke1> Nvidiot, well i did install libdvdread but i dont think it got libdvdcss
[03:23] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: it sounds like irq mess.
[03:23] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, yes
[03:23] <scanwinder> whats a good IDE to learn C in?
[03:23] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, yes ill try the other free slot
[03:23] <BooZee> does Thnuderbird has a plugin for showing like a small envelope when a new Mail has arrived? like Outlook do.. ?
[03:23] <yancheng> nvidiot: anyone here encouter CMOS time not set problem, whenever u turn off the main power of computer and re-turned on
[03:24] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, crimsun, is it a bad idea to put ALL 3 PCI cards now in a diffrent order?
[03:24] <erchache> Configurando apache2-common (2.0.53-5ubuntu5.3) ...
[03:24] <erchache> chown: `root:adm': invalid group
[03:24] <erchache> dpkg: error al procesar apache2-common (--configure):
[03:24] <erchache>  el subproceso post-installation script devolvi el cdigo de salida de error 1
[03:24] <erchache> dpkg: problemas de dependencias impiden la configuracin de apache2-mpm-prefork:
[03:24] <erchache>  apache2-mpm-prefork depende de apache2-common (= 2.0.53-5ubuntu5.3); sin embargo:
[03:24] <Nvidiot> yancheng: replace the motherboard battery
[03:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[03:24] <deFrysk> BooZee, thunderbird makes a li'l sound here whem mail arrives
[03:24] <scanwinder> yancheng: yeh, replace mobo batt
[03:25] <Shin_Gouki> how and where do i turn off X autostart?
[03:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> my server novel is going to end... 8) i need decide between debain and ubuntu with server install...i need some help to end this question...someone may help me?
[03:25] <BooZee> deFrysk: yes i know, the prob is that it's a too li'l, and if I wasn't near the comp, I can't know if I got any new mail unless I load up the prog..
[03:25] <jip> poningru, the problem is that i can't create dev-files right. always complaining: main:1882: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 19 No such device
[03:26] <Shin_Gouki> where do i turn off X-server AUTOSTART?
[03:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> i think ubuntu is more easy to maintain my packages, since synaptic is very easy...
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager  (from memory)
[03:26] <Virtuall> http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=5171 :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[03:26] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[03:26] <deFrysk> BooZee, I have always thunderbird running in a seperate virt. desktop
[03:27] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: put it back with the same but substitute /usr/bin/gdm for false ;)
[03:27] <londonboi2k3> ello guys, its been a long time since I have used ubunutu, but I have installed it today and for some reason the backports are not working, and I cant seem to find a resolution on the fourms, any help would be great
[03:28] <BooZee> deFrysk: me too.. all i'm saying, if you had a small envelope near the clock, it would have been more helpful
[03:28] <nalioth> londonboi2k3: what do you want to do?
[03:28] <thoreauputic> londonboi2k3: the old backports are gone
[03:28] <deFrysk> BooZee, there is an app for that in xfce4 but it crashes all the time checking
[03:28] <deFrysk> forgot the name tho
[03:28] <londonboi2k3> well, I wanted w32codec, and java
[03:28] <Shin_Gouki> didnt work, it came back after i typed: xkill :/
[03:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> since ubuntu is debian, my idea is mantain a server, and a copy of the installed packages in my desktop, so i can make some test before update in server...
[03:29] <thoreauputic> !tell londonboi2k3 about javadeb
[03:29] <BooZee> deFrysk: is xfce4 a prog?
[03:29] <Aragorn_Guardian> anyone is using ubuntu in a server? 8)
[03:29] <londonboi2k3> ?
[03:29] <Shin_Gouki> boozee
[03:29] <daniele> someone knows if wesnoth 1.0 will be in final breezy?
[03:29] <Nvidiot> londonboi2k3: win32codecs can be grabbed from a debian mirror
[03:29] <Shin_Gouki> BooZee , no a WM
[03:29] <thoreauputic> !tell londonboi2k3 about w32codecs
[03:29] <deFrysk> BooZee, its a dm
[03:29] <crimsun> daniele: highly unlikely.
[03:29] <nalioth> Nvidiot: we have ubuntu packed w32codecs
[03:29] <deFrysk> de , sorry
[03:29] <crimsun> daniele: possible, but very, very unlikely.
[03:30] <BooZee> well i'm using gnome..
[03:30] <deFrysk> BooZee, its a DE
[03:30] <Nvidiot> nalioth: hm, didn't see those, so I grabbed them from a debian mirror :)
[03:30] <Nvidiot> nalioth: doesn't really matter anyway
[03:30] <deFrysk> BooZee, yeah me too
[03:30] <deFrysk> gnome rules ;)
[03:30] <BooZee> so you're saying i got nothing to use, ha?
[03:30] <yancheng> scanwinder, nvidiot. oh, u guys olso encounter "CMOS time not set" problem?
[03:30] <londonboi2k3> ok thanks, finally, trying to install smeg and i get this smeg: Depends: python-xdg (>= 0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed
[03:31] <thoreauputic> londonboi2k3: dowload the script on amaranths page and run that
[03:31] <deFrysk> BooZee, not that i know of but maybe someone else knows ?
[03:31] <crimsun> daniele: ok, rephrase. We've requested a sync. As soon as it's processed, it'll be in. So it looks like the answer is "yes, 1.0 will be in Breezy".
[03:31] <daniele> Have you games to suggest me? I just tried neverball (apt-get install neverball), solarwolf (that is broken for a python problem). Any chance for quake3 or other (no-I-hope-GPL) games?
[03:31] <thoreauputic> !tell londonboi2k3 about smeg
[03:31] <Shin_Gouki> which file on ubuntu system helds "startup"-steps? i want to disable X Autostart
[03:31] <nalioth> londonboi2k3: use the installsmeg script from the smeg homepage
[03:31] <duce> Hello there, one question: Is there a way to get a Soundblaster X-Fi working? If I am right there is no support for this Card in the kernel 2.6.13?
[03:32] <londonboi2k3> thanks
[03:32] <GDorn> is it pronounced "free enn ecks" or "freenks"?
[03:32] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i cant shutddown my system x user login always REapperas...?
[03:32] <p0windah> GDorn: you're back, did you get it going ?
[03:32] <daniele> crimsun, thank you
[03:32] <GDorn> p0windah:  working on it now, building it from source
[03:32] <scorpix_> i can't upgrade/run firefox in Hoary, i got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GdZXha42.htm , how can i fix it?
[03:32] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: i'm not sure
[03:33] <p0windah> GDorn: building from source.... not necessary methinks with hoary/breezy
[03:33] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: did you run the command I suggested?
[03:33] <GDorn> p0windah:  oh.  I didn't see a package...
[03:33] <deFrysk> scorpix_, first disable backports if you have it
[03:33] <duce> scorpix_, there are actoally problems with the backports
[03:33] <p0windah> GDorn: you running hoary or breezy ?
[03:33] <Shin_Gouki> naliothoreauputic,nalioth , yes i did it reappears after killing main window
[03:33] <Stricklin> It just occurred to me: no problems using an actual iPod in Linux?
[03:33] <GDorn> p0winhad: hoary, for at least another week
[03:34] <duce> No one here using a X-Fi?
[03:34] <HiddenFly> i get this error when compiling bzflag: 4.20050930/src/platform/XDisplay.h:46: undefined reference to `XF86VidModeGetModeLine' how can i fix this?
[03:34] <Stricklin> I mean, I know you can't use iTunes
[03:34] <Shin_Gouki> naliothoreauputic,nalioth , plz were does it stand that X always restatrs after killing?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: try sudo init 1 && sudo init 2 after running that command
[03:34] <p0windah> GDorn: I dont recall the repos. I used for hoary, but there is one referenced somewhere in the forums
[03:34] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: or do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:35] <p0windah> GDorn: the breezy repos. is seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:35] <nalioth> GDorn: when Seveas shows up, ask him for freenx
[03:35] <Hendric> i just finished doing a "server" install... how will i start installing a gui?? (XFCE)
[03:35] <mahangu> how can i check what disks are mounted?
[03:35] <mahangu> i want to umount my usb drive
[03:35] <mahangu> but dont know the name
[03:35] <Nvidiot> http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-grub.html <- that has *GOT* to be the funniest 404 page I've seen in a LONG time
[03:35] <Nvidiot> ROFL
[03:35] <Seveas> hm?
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: as long as gdm is running that will happen
[03:35] <Seveas> who called?
[03:35] <deFrysk> mahangu, hit mount
[03:36] <p0windah> Seveas: you have hoary freenx packages ?
[03:36] <deFrysk> mahangu,  mount <enter> to check
[03:36] <Seveas> p0windah, deb http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/ ./
[03:37] <p0windah> GDorn: there you go, both hoary and breezy packages are in his repos.
[03:37] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: hahah - great stuff :D
[03:37] <GDorn> hrm
[03:37] <Shin_Gouki> ok besides the X server i want to switch to a shell which is NOT X based how do i do thisS?
[03:37] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: ctrl-alt-f3
[03:37] <egoleo> mysqld cannot be found
[03:37] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: erm... ctrl-alt- F1 - F6 take your pick
[03:37] <egoleo> any help
[03:37] <Seveas> egoleo, then install it :)
[03:38] <egoleo> i have installed it
[03:38] <mahangu> during the ubuntu install is there a way to partition disks?
[03:38] <mahangu> i forget
[03:38] <nalioth> Seveas: GDorn is looking for freenx
[03:38] <egoleo> it used to work so well
[03:38] <mahangu> im getting my new machine today, and i dont have partition magic around
[03:38] <egoleo> is when i upgraded to breezy
[03:38] <thoreauputic> mahangu: of course
[03:38] <kris> hi I need someone from poland to help me a little bit with ubuntu
[03:38] <egoleo> and stopped working
[03:38] <nalioth> mahangu: have a livecd?
[03:38] <mahangu> thoreauputic, these thinkpads come with a 40gig ntfs
[03:38] <londonboi2k3> !tell londonboi2k3 about azureus
[03:38] <Seveas> egoleo, maybe it got removed during the upgrade...
[03:38] <mahangu> nalioth, no hard disk install
[03:38] <nalioth>  /msg ubotu tell londonboi2k3 about msg the bot
[03:38] <Seveas> kris, #ubuntu-pl may help
[03:38] <mahangu> thoreauputic, id want to split that up in to two 20 gigs
[03:39] <kris> thx
[03:39] <egoleo> but iu have reinstalled like 3 times
[03:39] <nalioth> mahangu: if you are comfortable with the console, parted is included on the install disk
[03:39] <tombs> hi ppl
[03:39] <thoreauputic> mahangu: the installer can resize ntfs IIRC
[03:39] <p0windah> egoleo: installed "mysql-server" ?
[03:39] <deFrysk> mahangu, first install xp , on a 20 gig section and leave the reast for ubuntu
[03:39] <Nvidiot> nalioth: why so fancy? fdisk all the way! ;)
[03:39] <p0windah> egoleo: type "mysql -uroot -p" to see if its there
[03:39] <kris> nobody there :(
[03:39] <egoleo> ok
[03:39] <mahangu> deFrysk, pre installed
[03:40] <mahangu> xp comes pre installed on these machines
[03:40] <deFrysk> mahangu, then be careful
[03:40] <thoreauputic> mahangu: so resize it
[03:40] <Answer> Question:  When I change my hostname how can apply the changes without rebooting?
[03:40] <mahangu> thoreauputic, parted, is it tricky to work with?
[03:40] <egoleo> it comes
[03:40] <kris> anybody knows how to make gadu gadu work on ubuntu?
[03:40] <egoleo> and ask me for a password
[03:40] <deFrysk> silly pre-installs
[03:40] <nalioth> mahangu: not at all
[03:40] <crimsun> kris: client? Gaim handles it.
[03:40] <thoreauputic> mahangu: not particularly, if you are used to commandline
[03:40] <nerdy2> Answer, man hostname
[03:40] <p0windah> egoleo: press enter if its a fresh install
[03:40] <egoleo> when i provide the password
[03:40] <kris> ok adn how do I make it work?
[03:41] <mahangu> im alright i guess
[03:41] <egoleo> it tells me
[03:41] <mahangu> so i do parted help and see?
[03:41] <mahangu> does ubuntu let you use parted during the install?
[03:41] <egoleo> cann't connect to localhost
[03:41] <mahangu> i hav ehoary install and live cds
[03:41] <nalioth> mahangu: just "parted" and it will give you some options
[03:41] <egoleo> MySQL server through
[03:41] <sorush20> is ubuntu making money at all..
[03:41] <Answer> nerdy2: I don't not believe the hostname command will apply the changes
[03:41] <egoleo> socket
[03:41] <thoreauputic> mahangu: it will prompt you
[03:41] <p0windah> egoleo: then you seem to have the "mysql client" but not the "mysql server"
[03:41] <mahangu> or maybe ill just overwrite XP
[03:41] <mahangu> the thing is, ill need to do game reviews from time to time
[03:41] <mahangu> so wondering...
[03:42] <egoleo> /var/run/myqld/ msql.sock(2)
[03:42] <mahangu> brb
[03:42] <egoleo> i thought i have that installed
[03:42] <egoleo> mysql-server right
[03:42] <egoleo> i have
[03:42] <egoleo> it
[03:42] <egoleo> so whats wrong
[03:42] <egoleo> ok
[03:42] <egoleo> how do i uninstall it
[03:42] <p0windah> egoleo: type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server"
[03:42] <egoleo> so that i can reinstall
[03:43] <egoleo> ok
[03:43] <Answer> Question:  When I change my hostname how can apply the changes without rebooting?
[03:43] <ccooke> sorush20: hmm. Financially, ubuntu is on a pretty secure footing.
[03:43] <egoleo> i am doing that
[03:44] <Shin_Gouki> crimson , still there i now have PCi audio & internet , plz tell me again which commands i need to run!
[03:44] <thoreauputic> Answer: I imagine you might need to edit /etc/hosts
[03:44] <Answer> thoreauputic: I edited /etc/hosts, how can I apply those changes?
[03:44] <nerdy2> Answer, hostname --file <filename>  where <filename> has your new host
[03:44] <egoleo> still
[03:44] <egoleo> the same mysql error
[03:44] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , still there i now have PCi audio & internet , plz tell me again which commands i need to run!
[03:44] <egoleo> after reinstall
[03:44] <Answer> nerdy2: I changed the hostname, how can I apply the changes?
[03:44] <nerdy2> Answer, you should change /etc/hostname, and then do hostname --file /etc/hostname
[03:44] <Answer> ah
[03:45] <egoleo> it was trying to restart the mysql
[03:45] <Nvidiot> update-grub generates a whole load of options for old kernels. How do I remove those?
[03:45] <Answer> tricky
[03:45] <nerdy2> [as man hostname would tell you :)]
[03:45] <egoleo> but couldn't
[03:45] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: for what?
[03:45] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , ALSA setup
[03:45] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: cat /proc/asound/modules
[03:45] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , really crazy the soundcard uses LOTS of system now
[03:45] <rawiramdhan> Does any1 know a highly adjustable xclock?
[03:46] <p0windah> egoleo: how long have you been messing around with installing mysql and have you ever used mysql before ?
[03:46] <rawiramdhan> I can only change my bg color
[03:46] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , u have a command for alsa setup?
[03:46] <egoleo> it says /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[03:46] <egoleo> yeah
[03:46] <egoleo> i have
[03:46] <skalca> anybody have problem vith playn net TV?
[03:46] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: just type what I asked, please
[03:46] <BooZee> does anybody here knows how can I make a Keyboard shortcut for changing the active language which I type with?
[03:46] <egoleo> i was using it on hoary
[03:47] <p0windah> egoleo: you have done something abnormal afaict
[03:47] <thoreauputic> rawiramdhan: t-cache search clock  ?
[03:47] <BiSK-8> hello
[03:47] <egoleo> like what
[03:47] <sorush20> in the xorg config when it asks for the rsync horizontal the value has no units what should I do..
[03:47] <thoreauputic> rawiramdhan: sorry apt-cache search clock ;)
[03:47] <d33p> which video player do you recommend me to use, xine suddenly has a low frame rate and totem doesn't read well the codec directory
[03:47] <p0windah> egoleo: I couldnt even begin to guess, hence "abnormal"
[03:47] <rawiramdhan> thoreauputic: I'm trying it right now
[03:47] <BiSK-8> when i configure phpmyadmin, where can i find the public_html file the one where i can determine the user and password
[03:47] <BiSK-8> ?
[03:48] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , it works :)
[03:48] <egoleo> plse try ok
[03:48] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: like I mentioned, you don't have to do a thing
[03:48] <egoleo> bcos is not working at all
[03:48] <thoreauputic> rawiramdhan:  apt-cache show <interesting looking package> to read about it :)
[03:48] <Shin_Gouki> crimsun , ur right ^ ^ are u good with xmms?
[03:48] <sorush20> is XInput present on the breezy
[03:48] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: use the esound output plugin
[03:48] <egoleo> bcos i need it for some project
[03:49] <crimsun> sorush20: in universe, yes
[03:49] <pl_ice> hi
[03:49] <skalca> somebody nov how to vatch TV by net becouse totem dont vont to open .i dont nov why . Some tip?
[03:50] <Nvidiot> I seem to have a whole load of kernels installed. I want *just* the latest 686 kernel installed. How do I make this happen ?
[03:50] <StylusEater_Work> if we want to write something for ubuntu...do we have to use Python?
[03:50] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: uninstall the ones you don't need
[03:50] <egoleo> can someone show me how to install w32codecs
[03:51] <p0windah> egoleo: if you want to completely remove it, type "apt-get remove --purge mysql-server"
[03:51] <Nvidiot> thoreauputic: how?
[03:51] <ccooke> StylusEater_Work: I believe that's the *preferred* option
[03:51] <thoreauputic> !tell egoleo about w32codecs
[03:51] <StylusEater_Work> ccooke: what if I don't? will they translate or not accept?
[03:51] <egoleo> and libdvdcss2
[03:51] <egoleo> ok
[03:51] <p0windah> egoleo: then you need to make sure you dont have unofficial repos. that are mixing libs and whatnot
[03:51] <ccooke> StylusEater_Work: I would expect it would depend entirely on what you're doing and how.
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: use your package manager and remove the ones you don't want ( linux-image-XXX)
[03:52] <Shin_Gouki> really hard question: were do i get freecell& solitr and i use Icewm NOT gnomeor KDE?
[03:52] <StylusEater_Work> ccooke: I don't have any python experience is why I ask...
[03:52] <selinium> is there anyway of downloading a website for local browsing?
[03:52] <d33p> thoreauputic, which video player do you recommend me to use?
[03:52] <selinium> hi thoreauputic :)
[03:52] <egoleo> i dont have
[03:52] <p0windah> selinium: from the commandline you can use wget..
[03:52] <ccooke> StylusEater_Work: Some tasks are better done in some particular language. Some you have lot of choice on.
[03:52] <egoleo> when trying to take it off
[03:52] <Answer> StylusEater_Work: If you write something really valuable, someone will port it if necessary
[03:52] <thoreauputic> d33p: I like totem-xine or vlc
[03:52] <StylusEater_Work> ccooke: yup, thanks
[03:52] <p0windah> selinium: curl probably does it too
[03:53] <ccooke> StylusEater_Work: for instance - if you're operating exclusively with files and programs, I'd always go for shell. It's the right idiom.
[03:53] <selinium> p0windah, I need it to get all the pages, if you see what I mean.
[03:53] <d33p> thoreauputic, gonna check vlc or try to configure totem, it isn't caching me the codecs :(
[03:53] <GDorn> well...  freenx installed, but trying to connect to it, I get "Authentication failed"
[03:53] <Nvidiot> thoreauputic: I'm currently booted in <IP_ADDRESS>-386, I want to boot the 686 one, how do I do that?
[03:53] <thoreauputic> d33p: install totem-xine and w32codecs
[03:53] <p0windah> GDorn: you use the packaged deb's or did you roll your own from source ?
[03:53] <ccooke> StylusEater_Work: most general-case things, though, could just as well be written in python or perl or...
[03:53] <Nvidiot> thoreauputic: (after that, I can remove the -386 kernel)
[03:53] <GDorn> p0windah:  I went with the packages from that repo.
[03:53] <pybe> selinium: http://www.httrack.com/
[03:53] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: choose it from the grub boot menu on boot
[03:54] <egoleo> it is done
[03:54] <egoleo> so what do i do again
[03:54] <p0windah> GDorn: ah ok, when it was setting up, did you choose "no machine keys" ?
[03:54] <selinium> pybe: cheers, i'll take a look! :)
[03:54] <Nvidiot> thoreauputic: grub boot menu only lists memtest and one other option? Do I have to run update-grub ?
[03:54] <occy> http://www.zefix.org/schnappi.dl.am/snappie_nederlands.mp3  <-- hurt your brain.  listen.
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: hit <esc> for a menu
[03:54] <GDorn> p0windah:  I think I goofed and told it manual install...
[03:54] <GDorn> er, manual setup
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Nvidiot: if you have more than one kernel they should show
[03:54] <egoleo> i want the w32codecs for breezy
[03:54] <skalca> this hapen ven i vot to watch tv by internet"Totem could not play 'fd://0'.  No URI handler implemented for "fd://0""  Have enybody some idea???
[03:54] <p0windah> GDorn: dpkg-reconfigure freenx
[03:54] <selinium> hi egoleo: how did it go? the mysql thing?
[03:55] <ndlovu> any recommendations on a good (easy) program to produce flowcharts? was thinking OOo draw but thought there might be something else more appropriate.
[03:55] <d33p> thoreauputic, does vlc play full screen?
[03:55] <GDorn> ah hah!
[03:55] <egoleo> i have uninstalled it now
[03:55] <GDorn> that's how that's done
[03:55] <egoleo> so what next
[03:55] <p0windah> GDorn: :)
[03:55] <Nvidiot> thoreauputic: I ran grub-update and it finds a whole LOAD of kernels... ick. (I had a custom grub menu.lst before due to my custom install I had to do)
[03:55] <pybe> selinium: more exactly http://debian.httrack.com/
[03:55] <egoleo> selinium
[03:55] <thoreauputic> egoleo: w32codecs are w32codecs - there isn't a special breezy package
[03:55] <egoleo> what next
[03:55] <egoleo> ok
[03:55] <p0windah> GDorn: oh man, you are in for a sweet ride my friend
[03:55] <thoreauputic> d33p: sure
[03:55] <egoleo> so where do i grab it
[03:55] <egoleo> from
[03:55] <d33p> thoreauputic, don't see it, which key to do so?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> !tell egoleo about w32codecs
[03:56] <thoreauputic> d33p: try "f"
[03:56] <Answer> egoleo: do a text search on the wiki for w32codecs
[03:56] <GDorn> hehe
[03:56] <d33p> thoreauputic, using gvlc... oops what a crap, want pure vlc =)
[03:56] <d33p> thoreauputic, thanks
[03:56] <pybe> egoleo: use synaptic or apt-get
[03:56] <StylusEater_Work> Answer: HAHAHAHA!
[03:56] <selinium> Answer, lol
[03:57] <Crazy_Man> apt-get can't get w32codecs
[03:57] <GDorn> p0winhad:  well, that's new...  I time out now, instead.
[03:57] <Crazy_Man> trust me....I've tried
[03:57] <Shin_Gouki> hello can anyone plz tell me an IRC server + channel for Xmms support?
[03:57] <egoleo> pybe
[03:57] <egoleo> to do what
[03:57] <GDorn> ah.  gotta enable ssl
[03:57] <thoreauputic> !tell Crazy_Man about w32codecs
[03:57] <Shin_Gouki> i need an spc plugin for xmms
[03:57] <StylusEater_Work> Shin_Gouki: a /list won't tell ya?
[03:57] <pybe> Crazy_Man: I have apt-get installed w32codec many many times
[03:58] <thoreauputic> pybe: but the ubuntu repos no longer have it for legal reasons
[03:58] <d33p> Crazy_Man, I also have apt-get installed w32codecs, check your sources.list
[03:58] <pybe> thoreauputic: shows how uptodate I am
[03:58] <egoleo> so then where done get it from
[03:58] <pybe> thoreauputic: isnt it in multi?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> egoleo: check your msg!
[03:58] <Tbird> hello
[03:58] <GDorn> hey, it works.
[03:58] <egoleo> ok
[03:58] <jip> anybody here using dvb-card on linux?
[03:59] <thoreauputic> egoleo: ubotu told you a few minutes ago
[03:59] <thoreauputic> pybe: no
[03:59] <egoleo> yeah
[03:59] <egoleo> i ahve it
[03:59] <GDorn> now. the $64 million question...  can I use it a bit like a screen session, and reconnect to a desktop session I already have going?
[03:59] <egoleo> but what abt mysql
[03:59] <Answer> Isn't there some kind of irc tutorial we cna point theze n00berz at
[03:59] <p0windah> GDorn: close the client and a popup should appear, choose "suspend"
[04:00] <GDorn> okay, that makes sense.  what about a session that I started last night at the desktop?
[04:00] <p0windah> GDorn: once it closes, fire up the client again and you can reconnect or start a new session
[04:00] <Tbird> this is the first time i have used linux Its not a bad program
[04:00] <pybe> thoreauputic: where are they now then marillat or something?
[04:00] <d33p> thoreauputic, btw... in gvlc to fullscreen is doubleclick :P
[04:00] <thoreauputic> ubotu irc-primer is http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircprimer.html
[04:00] <ubotu> okay, thoreauputic
[04:00] <Nvidiot> why does wpa_supplicant start THREE times on bootup? I want it to start ONCE to get my wireless working
[04:00] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[04:00] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[04:01] <thoreauputic> pybe: you could have done /msg ubotu w32codecs
[04:01] <crimsun> Nvidiot: it starts once.
[04:01] <egoleo> ok
[04:01] <Budda> moin
[04:01] <Nvidiot> crimsun: it *should* start once you mean... when I reboot my laptop, it's running more than once, thus screwing up my wlan0 connection
[04:01] <crimsun> Nvidiot: it runs once on my computer.
[04:02] <Zeke1> i have installed libdvdcss2 but totem still asks if im trying to play a dvd without libdvdcss2?
[04:02] <pybe> thoreauputic: I havent been active on ubuntu for some months now due to work, havent even installed 5.04 on my new laptop yet. Whats ubotu?
[04:02] <thoreauputic> pybe: channel bot :)
[04:02] <Nvidiot> hm, well, I'll fix this kernel stuff first
[04:02] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[04:02] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:02] <umberleigh> after i've stopped a process with Ctrl+z, how do i start it again?
[04:02] <Zeke1> anybody know what could be wrong?
[04:02] <pybe> thoreauputic: nice
[04:03] <kemik> umberleigh:  fg
[04:03] <egoleo> the link for the codecs
[04:03] <Tbird> how do i change to 1024x768 in Ubuntu ( i am new to this)
[04:03] <egoleo> are not going
[04:03] <thoreauputic> !who owns you
[04:03] <ubotu> cafuego
[04:03] <Answer> umberleigh:  type "jobs"  and then type "fg job#"   to foreground that job number
[04:03] <thoreauputic> !tell Tbird about fixres
[04:03] <umberleigh> cheers
[04:03] <thoreauputic> Tbird: check your msg es
[04:03] <Tbird> thankyou
[04:04] <GDorn> oof.  it's using qwerty instead of dvorak...
[04:04] <Nvidiot> dvorak :D
[04:04] <p0windah> I use my mouse with my ear to avoid rsi
[04:05] <pl_ice> hey, someting eats my ram :/ not sure what, but after i reboot totally it's ok :/ based on gkrellm stats
[04:05] <rawiramdhan> p0windah: thats very smart, i'm gonna do that 2
[04:06] <erchache> hi
[04:06] <pybe> p0windah: no need http://www.footmouse.com/
[04:06] <GDorn> *sigh*
[04:06] <thoreauputic> pl_ice: so type   free -m when it happens, and try  top  to see what is doing it
[04:06] <erchache> how i can install a package via apt and exclude xorg-common?
[04:06] <erchache> i install my server on server mode....without x
[04:07] <thoreauputic> erchache: if something depends on xorg-common chances are it's an X app
[04:08] <pl_ice> thoreauputic top states the same info before /after free -m
[04:08] <thoreauputic> pl_ice: yes of course :/
[04:09] <thoreauputic> pl_ice: top should give you an idea what is using your RAM though
[04:09] <Answer> pl_ice: cat /proc/meminfo
[04:09] <thoreauputic> pl_ice: you can set it to sort by RAM use
[04:10] <thoreauputic> pl_ice: you relise linux uses as much RAM as possible?
[04:10] <adrian_h> In which file should I put commands that should be executed at boot time, such as "echo 2 > /sys/module/processor/parameters/max_cstate" ?
[04:10] <thoreauputic> *realise
[04:10] <p0windah> thats not entirely true
[04:10] <Answer> pl_ice:  in top, press h or ? for help.  M to sort by memory
[04:10] <thoreauputic> adrian_h: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:11] <crimsun> adrian_h: that one in particular goes in /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:11] <adrian_h> thoreauputic and crimsun: Thanks!
[04:11] <thoreauputic> p0windah: for the sake of simplicity...
[04:11] <pl_ice> thoreauputic yeh, but normally i got ~ 550 free, and it goes down now to ~ 400, i chaned from kde to gnome, but in kde i had 'float's to 4 mbs free!!
[04:11] <p0windah> pl_ice: how much ram do you have, total ?
[04:11] <Nvidiot> ok, something is not working here. I've got a wlan0 with ndiswrapper, it should come up automatically on boot, but it does not.
[04:11] <pl_ice> 775788 kB
[04:12] <adrian_h> crimsun: In /etc/sysctl.conf, do I use exactly this format? "echo 2 > /sys/module/processor/parameters/max_cstate"
[04:12] <Nvidiot> that is, it DOES come up, but netstat -rn lists *NO* routes whatsoever
[04:12] <crimsun> adrian_h: no, see the example
[04:12] <p0windah> pl_ice: try echo "10" > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[04:12] <crimsun> adrian_h: module/processor/parameters/max_cstate=2
[04:12] <p0windah> pl_ice: that wont give you more ram, but might keep things out of swap and in ram, resulting in a slightly "snappier" desktop experience
[04:12] <adrian_h> crimsun: So I don't need the "/sys" prefix?
[04:12] <aaron> anyone know of a P2P app for gnome?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> p0windah: which won't work unless he does sudo -i first, BTW
[04:13] <thoreauputic> p0windah: or uses echo with a pipe to sudo tee
[04:13] <p0windah> pl_ice: if it doesnt work, echo "60" > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[04:13] <Answer> pl_ice:  you could try   ps -ef --forest    to see the process tree :)
[04:13] <p0windah> heh
[04:13] <crimsun> adrian_h: drop /proc/sys/
[04:13] <p0windah> I typed cat the second time...
[04:13] <bpf> any of you using breezy with an IBM thinkpad? I just scored a new x40 from work yesterday and need to get the wireless and the sleep/suspend to work
[04:13] <crimsun> adrian_h: there should be two commented example lines
[04:13] <lars_g> Hey all.
[04:14] <bpf> everything else has been awesome so far
[04:14] <aaron> has anyone gotten the snes9x emu to work?
[04:14] <crimsun> bpf: I'm using an X40-2527 just fine.
[04:14] <adrian_h> crimsun: Got it
[04:14] <p0windah> pl_ice: and thoreauputic is right, you need to use sudo before those commands
[04:14] <lars_g> Question, is there any way to install without X11 and any GUI systems? I want to set up a server with ubuntu and I'm a purist, I hate X11 in servers
[04:14] <pl_ice> yeh, just gimme a sec :)
[04:14] <bpf> crimsun, did you have to do anything special to get those 2 things to work?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> p0windah: the echo won't work with sudo
[04:14] <lars_g> hey there apokryphos
[04:14] <crimsun> bpf: I did, yes, but you shouldn't have to.
[04:14] <thoreauputic> p0windah: hence my other remqrks
[04:14] <thoreauputic> *remarks
[04:14] <lars_g> apokryphos: How's life?
[04:14] <bpf> crimsun, why is that?
[04:14] <pl_ice> echo 10 did nothing
[04:14] <p0windah> just sudo -s first then
[04:14] <crimsun> bpf: because I've been testing Breezy on this for a long time.
[04:15] <egoleo> hey crimsun
[04:15] <lars_g> please? anyone?
[04:15] <egoleo> can u help me on mysql
[04:15] <crimsun> bpf: since you will dist-upgrade to Breezy (or install it fresh, then update) today, you won't have the issues I had
[04:15] <thoreauputic> p0windah: sudo -i is better  an safer
[04:15] <Answer> lars_g:  you can just remove the stuff you don't want.
[04:15] <lars_g> Answer: It't not really the idea, but...
[04:15] <bpf> crimsun, i did a dist-upgrade yesterday after installing and enabling the universe repos
[04:16] <crimsun> egoleo: I'm not a db person, sorry.
[04:16] <Answer> lars_g: Did you try installing from the cd in expert mode?
[04:16] <crimsun> bpf: you really need to be updating every hour or so
[04:16] <egoleo> i just upgraded to breezy
[04:16] <lars_g> Answer: Yes, I didn't see a package selection option
[04:16] <egoleo> and mysql
[04:16] <lars_g> Ok I'll install and remove.
[04:16] <lars_g> sigh
[04:16] <egoleo> is not working again
[04:16] <thoreauputic> lars_g: you can get nX-less server with the server option in the install
[04:16] <Nvidiot> ok, something is not working here. I've got a wlan0 with ndiswrapper, it should come up automatically on boot, but it does not. that is, it DOES come up, but netstat -rn lists *NO* routes whatsoever
[04:16] <lars_g> :)
[04:16] <lars_g> thoreauputic: it's a lilo option or a menu option?
[04:17] <bpf> crimsun, and just waiting for it to work?
[04:17] <thoreauputic> lars_g: just type " server" at the prompt, IIRC
[04:17] <crimsun> bpf: it works as of right now.
[04:17] <pl_ice> hm, unless bloody gkrellm is lying, couse top  'M' shows it's ok
[04:17] <Answer> egoleo: Try to condense your statements into one so people don't have to scroll to help you.
[04:17] <Answer> !tell egoleo about ircprimer
[04:17] <lars_g> thoreauputic: Lilo option then. thanks a lot.
[04:17] <thoreauputic> lars_g: when you see the firat screen
[04:17] <crimsun> bpf: again, you'll have missed all the bloody hacking to get it working :)
[04:17] <thoreauputic> lars_g: no it isn't as lilo option
[04:18] <Answer> !tell egoleo about irc-primer
[04:18] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[04:18] <bpf> crimsun, ah, I did not realize it was working now. things must have changed since yesterday evening
[04:18] <bpf> crimsun, glad I missed all the bloody hacking :) but appreciate all of you early adopters (i try when i have the time, it's always fun)
[04:18] <Answer> lars_g:  lilo is a boot loader, like grub.  I think you want the initial install screen where you can type options
[04:18] <Nvidiot> I also saw something like 'restoring resolver' on boot with a red [fail]  behind it (and following that an ntp error)
[04:18] <thoreauputic> Answer: he left :/
[04:19] <wolf2> how do i get and install gnucash? i have version 5.04
[04:19] <bpf> crimsun, does the wireless work with WEP keys?
[04:19] <pl_ice> ok, thnx back to matlab :/
[04:19] <thoreauputic> wolf2: sudo apt-get install gnucash
[04:19] <bpf> i tried it both ways last night with no luck
[04:19] <thoreauputic> !info gnucash
[04:19] <ubotu> gnucash: (A personal finance tracking program), section universe/gnome, is extra. Version: 1.8.9-4ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1237 kB, Installed size: 3844 kB
[04:19] <wolf2> thank you thoreauputic
[04:19] <GDorn> *sigh*  NX keeps locking up.
[04:19] <Answer> !tell wolf2 about synaptic
[04:20] <crimsun> bpf: out of the box, yes
[04:20] <thoreauputic> wolf2: you need the universe repo
[04:20] <p0windah> GDorn: ??
[04:20] <crimsun> bpf: it also works through wpasupplicant and xsupplicant
[04:20] <thoreauputic> !tell wolf2 about repos
[04:20] <bpf> crimsun, thank you for your help and patience with my n00b questions :)
[04:20] <crimsun> bpf: as well as WPA, WPA2, and 802.11x
[04:20] <bpf> excellent
[04:20] <GDorn> I dunno.  it worked a couple times, then it just stopped.  I don't get gnome, I get nothing.
[04:20] <bpf> crimsun, do you know how well breezy is working with amd64?
[04:21] <crimsun> bpf: I can't comment on the desktop amd64 experience, since I only use amd64s as pbuilders.
[04:21] <Nvidiot> anyone know anything about my wlan issue on boot? What's going on?
[04:21] <crimsun> Nvidiot: does wpasupplicant work at all?
[04:21] <p0windah> GDorn: open a terminal and "nxserver --list", you might need to "nxserver --terminate :1001"
[04:21] <Nvidiot> crimsun: yes, if I kill things, turn off the wlan0 then run ifup wlan0 it magically works again
[04:21] <dazzed> whens breezy coming out?
[04:21] <Answer> oct 13
[04:22] <dazzed> sweet
[04:22] <p0windah> dazzed: this year..
[04:22] <Zeke1> anybody know how to make dvd's go faster and not so stuttery
[04:22] <Nvidiot> crimsun: but I'd like it to work on boot instead of having to do that every time I boot my laptop
[04:22] <Nvidiot> Zeke1: enable dma
[04:22] <Answer> Zeke1: Buy a better dvd player
[04:22] <dazzed> i finally got dsl and i can finally make neccessary upgrades im so excited
[04:22] <crimsun> Nvidiot: hmm? What do you have to kill?
[04:22] <Zeke1> Nvidiot,  oh yes how do i do that
[04:22] <Answer> dazzed:  you don't have to wait for the official release, you can upgrade to breezy now if you want
[04:23] <Nvidiot> crimsun: let's say you don't have any routes on boot, what would you do to get it working?
[04:23] <Shin_Gouki> hi i need a link to a XMMS plugin site , is there such??
[04:23] <dazzed> Answer: the repos are up?
[04:23] <oxez> Shin_Gouki: xmms.org ?
[04:23] <p0windah> dazzed: yup
[04:23] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[04:23] <dazzed> tight ... i need to get off hoary
[04:23] <crimsun> Nvidiot: no, I need to know the order in which those processes are being executed.
[04:23] <dazzed> warty was better :)
[04:23] <Answer> dazzed:  Other people have been doing it.   Upgrades will occur before and after the release date so there's no reason to wait
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: apt-cache search xmms | grep plugin
[04:24] <crimsun> Nvidiot: e.g., networking> ndiswrapper> wpasupplicant> nothing works
[04:24] <Nvidiot> crimsun: I don't fully know what I'm doing, but usually messing with ifdown wlan0 / killing wpa_supplicant / dhcp and then an ifup wlan0 does the trick
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: you don't really need to go searching the web most of the time
[04:24] <GDorn> p0windah: yeah, that just killed the session I had started.  it was connecting and starting x, but then not starting gnome.  dunno why.  trying a reboot, just to be sure.
[04:24] <dazzed> these packages are downloading so fast ^^
[04:24] <Nvidiot> crimsun: how do I check what order it does stuff on boot?
[04:24] <crimsun> Nvidiot: if you kill wpa_supplicant, then you're not using it at all
[04:24] <Zeke1> how do i enable dma
[04:24] <Nvidiot> crimsun: it gets started again by ifup
[04:24] <Kyral> !dma