[07:00] <robotgeek> x0xA: find <path> -name <name_of_file>
[07:00] <nalioth> DigitalHobbit: i think i answered up in the middle of a topic i haven't seen the beginning of
[07:00] <nickrud> x0xA, if that doesn't work , Places->Search for Files
[07:01] <nickrud> or, learn find :)
[07:01] <nalioth> jessid: you'll have to "source /home/username/.bashrc" after you edit it
[07:01] <Karhuton> GPG error: http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[07:01] <nalioth> Karhuton: try it again
[07:01] <Karhuton> nalioth, I did
[07:01] <deFrysk> DigitalHobbit, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%29
[07:01] <jessid> nalioth ok
[07:01] <hooligan> hi
[07:01] <jessid> nalioth thanks!
[07:01] <hooligan> im new to linux and im having problems installing a simple software app
[07:02] <Karhuton> nalioth, even tried switching repository
[07:02] <hooligan> what do i run?
[07:02] <Phusion> hooligan: it happens
[07:02] <hooligan> i extracted this usr file to desktop
[07:02] <Phusion> hooligan: what are you trying to install
[07:02] <Phusion> usr??
[07:02] <hooligan> Limewire
[07:02] <nickrud> eh
[07:02] <nalioth> DigitalHobbit: have you seen this? http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[07:02] <Phusion> oh.. limewire has a linux ver?
[07:02] <hooligan> ya
[07:02] <deFrysk> Phusion, yes
[07:02] <Agrajag> limewire runs on anything that can run a JVM
[07:02] <Phusion> crazy
[07:02] <hooligan> i click this icon in 'bin' and it says
[07:02] <nickrud> hooligan, instead of installing limewire, you should try gtk-gnutella
[07:03] <nalioth> Karhuton: you seem to be having a problem running gpg
[07:03] <Karhuton> nalioth, oh, n/m. There was one repo I didn't change
[07:03] <hooligan> run in terminal , display, cancel, or run
[07:03] <hooligan> i click run and nothin happens
[07:03] <batman> propagandhi: what other bands do you listen to?
[07:03] <Karhuton> This doesn't work: deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[07:03] <Karhuton> se. works
[07:03] <nalioth> batman: propagandhi is correct. music talk should go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:03] <hooligan> anyone wanna guide me
[07:04] <DigitalHobbit> deFrysk: thanks. i've seen that page before and was hoping for amd64 specific instructions. but it sounds like i should be able to install the i386 package by manually downloading it.
[07:04] <hooligan> I open the RPM
[07:04] <hooligan> theres a little folder thats named .
[07:04] <OrgulloKmoore> ubuntu can do RPMs?
[07:04] <hooligan> idk
[07:04] <nickrud> hooligan, stop for a sec
[07:04] <propagandhi> hooligan: RPM is the isssue
[07:04] <hooligan> oh
[07:04] <hooligan> is that for a diff distro?
[07:04] <propagandhi> yes
[07:04] <OrgulloKmoore> Red Hat
[07:04] <hooligan> oh thats gay
[07:05] <nickrud> lol, trolling?
[07:05] <OrgulloKmoore> Fedora..
[07:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> what file specifies the "theme" of the login prompt in screensave.
[07:05] <propagandhi> you could use alien to convert it, but its not advised
[07:05] <DigitalHobbit> nalioth: gizmo looks cool. unfortunately our company has standardized on skype as the corporate messenger, so i need to install this.
[07:05] <propagandhi> limewire has a source package
[07:05] <elly_> whats the best? RGB or YUV??
[07:05] <OrgulloKmoore> hooligan: what are you trying to install
[07:05] <jessid> nalioth, but how can I for example make my $PATH to aid to another directories? I mean I have already source .bashrc and I cant yet do ALT+F2 and get java recognized :(
[07:05] <OrgulloKmoore> just use the source
[07:05] <hooligan> Limewire
[07:05] <propagandhi> which is what i use
[07:05] <OrgulloKmoore> or .bin
[07:05] <hooligan> i guess it isnt compatible
[07:05] <nalioth> DigitalHobbit: unfortuneately skype is not open source, so i dont know too much about it
[07:05] <CalfKiller> hi; is it true that u can order ubuntu cds for 0 $ ?
[07:05] <OrgulloKmoore> apt if you can
[07:05] <hooligan> ya
[07:05] <hooligan> I just got 10 today in the mail
[07:05] <hooligan> :D
[07:05] <OrgulloKmoore> hooligan: It is compatible, yo
[07:05] <hooligan> It is? Its an RPM tho
[07:06] <nalioth> jessid: put java in your $PATH
[07:06] <OrgulloKmoore> hooligan: don't use the RPM
[07:06] <CalfKiller> is it ?
[07:06] <hooligan> ooo hold on
[07:06] <TiMiDo> well he can still used alien =)
[07:06] <TiMiDo> !alien
[07:06] <ubotu> methinks alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[07:06] <hooligan> should i dl
[07:06] <Shadowline> hooligan you might wanna look at Frostwire, really nice IMHO. http://www.frostwire.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[07:06] <hooligan> (OS/2, Solaris, Linux)
[07:07] <propagandhi> hooligan: thats the one, its a tar.gz
[07:07] <batman> does anyone know if it is possible to change your mac?
[07:07] <deFrysk> jessid, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:07] <hooligan> ya
[07:07] <nalioth> gtk-gnutella is functionally equivalent and doesnt require java
[07:07] <hooligan> u can install ubuntu on mac
[07:07] <jessid> nalioth offcourse i have edited the .bashrc and wrote export $PATH:/opt/j2sdk1.5/bin and napa, nothing happens when I try to run that command (java) from application launcher (ALT+F2). Sorry for my ignorance
[07:07] <batman> sorry i meant mac address*
[07:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell deFrysk about multijava
[07:08] <CalfKiller> is it true that ubuntu sends people cds for free by mail ?>
[07:08] <jessid> deFrysk but it configures 1.4...is that right?
[07:08] <nalioth> CalfKiller: it's true
[07:08] <jessid> deFrysk I am trying to configure 1.5
[07:08] <CalfKiller> nalioth, internationally ?
[07:08] <batman> is it possible to change the mac address of your nic or wifi on ubuntu?
[07:08] <hooligan> calf I recommend downloading the iso
[07:08] <deFrysk> jessid, set it to nr 3
[07:08] <hooligan> I had to wait like
[07:08] <Madpilot> CalfKiller: anywhere. see shipit.ubuntu.com for details
[07:08] <OrgulloKmoore> gtk-gnutella is much better (in my opinion of course) than limewire
[07:08] <hooligan> 6 weeks
[07:08] <nalioth> CalfKiller: anywhere in the world
[07:08] <hooligan> I had to wait 6 weeks so i highly recommend downloadin it
[07:08] <nickrud> CalfKiller, I got a package from switzerland that I had no Idea what it was; 10 ubuntu cd's from shipit.ubuntu.com
[07:09] <jessid>  deFrysk dont get it. nr 3???
[07:09] <deFrysk> nalioth, thanks
[07:09] <jessid> deFrysk what is that?
[07:09] <CalfKiller> 10 cds ?!! I thought that was a joke
[07:09] <nickrud> 3k download implies shipit works
[07:09] <hooligan> i got 10
[07:09] <OrgulloKmoore> I got 50 cds and I didn't order any!
[07:09] <hooligan> :o
[07:09] <TiMiDo> CalfKiller; all you need is the, 1 cd for the installation though
[07:09] <OrgulloKmoore> and I was like...hmm... I guess I'll try it
[07:09] <Madpilot> hooligan: I've downloaded it for my own use and for friends, but for giving out to the public the pressed CDs are way more professional...
[07:09] <OrgulloKmoore> and here I am
[07:09] <nickrud> OrgulloKmoore, someone loves you
[07:09] <hooligan> is there any relevancy between a .jar and microsoft file extension
[07:09] <hooligan> like a dll
[07:09] <OrgulloKmoore> nickrud: :-D
[07:09] <hooligan> or anything
[07:09] <deFrysk> jessid, sudo update-alternatives --config java gives you a choice beteween 3 javaversions
[07:10] <Ekibyougami> i got a buttload of ubuntu cds on the way
[07:10] <sonoud> hi, how to killl a running user? i know how to kill a process but not sure how to kill a user.
[07:10] <sorsis> i like ubuntu :)
[07:10] <nickrud> and here I am
[07:10] <jessid> deFrysk ok!!!
[07:10] <Ekibyougami> gonna hand them out on halloween =x
[07:10] <deFrysk> jessid, 3 = sunjava
[07:10] <nickrud> Ekibyougami, damn I missed that idea
[07:10] <Ekibyougami> i have one as a coaster right now
[07:10] <batman> is it possible to change the mac address of your nic or wifi on ubuntu?
[07:10] <OrgulloKmoore> nice, Ekibyougami, me too
[07:10] <Kirsch> hey guys, i have a question about the kernel config, does ACPI come on by default on 5.04 (not 5.10) i'm having a problem and Ubuntu seems to be the only distor that works with my laptop :-P
[07:10] <Kirsch> does 5.04's kernel have ACPI support on?
[07:10] <OrgulloKmoore> batman: never
[07:10] <Antioch_> how do you add the backports repo to breezy?
[07:11] <Ekibyougami> Kirsch, it should
[07:11] <deFrysk> Antioch, you dont
[07:11] <Kirsch> ok i thought so thx
[07:11] <OrgulloKmoore> batman: mac adresses are burned onto the ram of a device
[07:11] <OrgulloKmoore> rom
[07:11] <OrgulloKmoore> damn
[07:11] <jessid> deFrysk but it is 1.4....or is it a problem in my repositories?
[07:11] <deFrysk> Antioch, no dapper to backport from (yet)
[07:11] <sonoud> hi, when I type who, i saw usrs connected. how to killl a user?
[07:11] <Ekibyougami> i can change my mac addys
[07:11] <nickrud> Antioch, there is no backports available yet, but, soon I'm sure
[07:11] <Antioch_> deFrysk, Im trying to install Java 1.5
[07:11] <OrgulloKmoore> I see..
[07:11] <snarky> hello all
[07:11] <deFrysk> !tell Antioch about java
[07:11] <Ekibyougami> halo
[07:11] <OrgulloKmoore> you would need a "hacker friendly" device too..
[07:12] <Ekibyougami> i do
[07:12] <Antioch_> ?
[07:12] <OrgulloKmoore> okey
[07:12] <hooligan> Y is there really no viruses for linux
[07:12] <Kirsch> cna someone runs this command for me pls:
[07:12] <Ekibyougami> my eth0 and wlan0 have configurable macs
[07:12] <deFrysk> jessid, you installed the blackdown java version ?
[07:12] <Kirsch> zcat /proc/config.gz | grep CONFIG_APCI
[07:12] <OrgulloKmoore> hooligan: linux rulez!
[07:12] <snarky> I'm trying to install avahi, but I run into an error while running the autogen.sh script
[07:12] <Ekibyougami> as does the ethernet in the pc, and my router
[07:12] <dabaR> hooligan: cause we all install only official packages.
[07:12] <sonoud> nobody know how to kill a user in linux ???
[07:12] <Antioch_> deFrysk, ?
[07:12] <jessid> deFrysk I think so
[07:12] <snarky> the error is aclocal: configure.ac macro 'AM_PATH_PYTHON' not found in library
[07:12] <dabaR> hooligan: like that answer
[07:12] <dabaR> ?
[07:12] <nickrud> dabaR, officially we do, anyway
[07:12] <rixth> Hey guys, it should be noted that the New Zealand mirror for Ubuntu is dead.
[07:12] <snarky> now, i know what that means, i just don't know how to get that
[07:12] <dabaR> sonoud: kill him how?
[07:12] <deFrysk> jessid, I believe thats the default (2)
[07:13] <johan__> hello
[07:13] <OrgulloKmoore> hello
[07:13] <jessid> deFrysk yes I think so
[07:13] <johan__> anyone that knows how i can make the filemanager not open new windows each time i enter a new directory?
[07:13] <hooligan> ok so about that limewire
[07:13] <hooligan> im lookin for what tar.jz or something
[07:13] <sonoud> dabaR, what do you mean?  when I typed "who" there are ssh usrs connected, or other users logged in. how to kill the user
[07:13] <Karhuton> rixth, what kind of error it gives you?
[07:13] <jessid> deFrysk but I imagine all 3 versions are 1.4
[07:13] <dabaR> hooligan: well, get it from their site.
[07:13] <Madpilot> johan__: in Nautilus's Options, check the "view in browser window" box
[07:13] <hooligan> i did,
[07:13] <rixth> johan__, run gconf-editor and find nautulus under apps, then tick 'always_browser'
[07:13] <hooligan> whats the extension that is like an exe
[07:13] <snarky> does anyone know how to solve my avahi install woes?
[07:13] <hooligan> That i need to x2 click
[07:13] <dabaR> sonoud: care to post the output of who to pastebin?
[07:14] <rixth> Karhuton, let me check...
[07:14] <Madpilot> rixth: you can actually adjust that behaviour inside Nautilus now
[07:14] <Kirsch> cna someone runs this command for me pls: zcat /proc/config.gz | grep CONFIG_APCI
[07:14] <snarky> or a better question, can someone run me through setting up avahi via synaptic?
[07:14] <nickrud> hooligan, there is no extention that makes a file executable, that's not how unix works
[07:14] <rixth> Madpilot, good on them, bout time. It should default to it though
[07:14] <johan__> Madpilot, nice, do you also know how to make it show a loication line i can type in, instead of those buttons?
[07:14] <nomasteryoda|w> rixth, or you can change the desktop link to be "nautilus --browser"
[07:14] <Ekibyougami> no such file or directory
[07:15] <hooligan> So how do I get this installation going
[07:15] <Karhuton> Kirsch, do you mean CONFIG_ACPI or CONFIG_APIC ?
[07:15] <jessid> i'll be right back...
[07:15] <sonoud> dabaR, for example, if ther is user : jtmi430  pts/27       Oct 20 10:01 , how to kill it?
[07:15] <Kirsch> CONFIG_APCI
[07:15] <rixth> nomasteryoda|w, indeed. If you don't use Metacity as your window manager you also need --no-desktop
[07:15] <Madpilot> johan__: that I don't know, but I think there is an option somewhere. Poke thru the Preferences window...
[07:15] <Kirsch> err ACPI
[07:15] <nomasteryoda|w> rixth, right
[07:15] <Karhuton> Kibou, What's APCI? I know what ACPI and APIC are, but never heard of APCI
[07:15] <nickrud> hooligan, in the directory that the file resides, chmod +x <file>, then ./<file>
[07:15] <Karhuton> *Kirsch
[07:15] <dabaR> hooligan: unpack the file, and then just run the .sh script. run.sh if I am correct. Really, actually, sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella, which is much cooler.
[07:16] <Kirsch> it's CONFIG_ACPI, sorry
[07:16] <dabaR> sonoud: a not so great way would be to stop ssh:-/
[07:16] <hooligan> i have no idea wat u just said :D
[07:16] <deFrysk> jessid, I have an example line to use for setting a javapath, all you have to do is adjust the line to where your java has been installed the line has to be put in .bashrc
[07:16] <sonoud> dabaR, so there is no way to kill a user?  i think that should be simple
[07:16] <Karhuton> Kirsch, seems like config.gz isn't available
[07:16] <Kirsch> wow ok thx
[07:16] <Kirsch> are u using 5.10 or 5.04?
[07:16] <Karhuton> Kirsc .10
[07:16] <Kirsch> ok thx
[07:17] <rixth> Karhuton, the NZ mirror is up again, must have been a power glitch or either that, my computer.
[07:17] <hooligan> ok
[07:17] <hooligan> I ran runLime.sh
[07:17] <hooligan> and it brought up gedit
[07:17] <hooligan> now what
[07:17] <dabaR> hooligan: tar xvzf limewireFile.tar.gz and then it makes a folder, in which there is a run.sh file, which you can run, since it is the "executable for that program". install the gtk-gnutella package, which is a better program imo.
[07:17] <Phusion> hey does breezy have some kind of default firewall installed or something, since I've updated from hoary my torrents won't connect.
[07:17] <dabaR> sonoud: well, no, did I say that? I said that is the way I know how to do it, and is a sucks way to do it.
[07:17] <nickrud> hooligan, read dabaR's last line. I use that one now and then
[07:17] <nickrud> beats limewire all to ...
[07:18] <sonoud> dabaR, thank you very much for help. :)
[07:18] <dabaR> sonoud: yup, its my birthday.
[07:18] <rixth> Phusion, what client are you using?
[07:18] <sonoud> dabaR, happy birthday.
[07:19] <OrgulloKmoore> Why would I be banned in #ubuntu-es?
[07:19] <hooligan> ok
[07:19] <dabaR> hooligan: that is cause its not executable to linux yet, I guess. in a terminal that is in the limewire folder, chmod +x runLime.sh.
[07:19] <hooligan> i downloaded it
[07:19] <rixth> OrgulloKmoore, weird
[07:19] <sonoud> Anyone know how to kill a user? but not just a process in linux ?
[07:19] <dabaR> OrgulloKmoore: cause you were naughty? ask them to unban you.
[07:19] <Phusion> rixth: well I've tried the default one that comes w/ gnome and azureus
[07:19] <dabaR> sonoud: thanks.
[07:19] <hooligan> Oh do I have to like, type commands to do stuff
[07:19] <OrgulloKmoore> dabaR: who do I ask?
[07:19] <ubuntu^> sonoud; do w and then kill the pid
[07:19] <rixth> Does #ubuntu have a bot like #debian has dpkg?
[07:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rixth about yourself
[07:19] <Ekibyougami> lol
[07:19] <budluva> rixth ubotu
[07:20] <rixth> Phusion, hmm, I'm using azureus fine on a new install of breezy
[07:20] <sonoud> ubuntu^, thanks , how to kill pid?  kill -w <pid> ?
[07:20] <Ekibyougami> i <3 bit tornado
[07:20] <OrgulloKmoore> dabaR: I have never been to that channel...could you go in there and give me the name of an active op?
[07:20] <dabaR> OrgulloKmoore: htheck would I know:) I dont.
[07:20] <OrgulloKmoore> or anyone
[07:20] <rixth> nalioth, budluva thanks
[07:20] <OrgulloKmoore> plz
[07:20] <ubuntu^> sonoud; kill -9 pid
[07:20] <hooligan> dabar
[07:20] <hooligan> I downloaded that gtk thing
[07:20] <hooligan> Now what, i got the control, data, and debian
[07:21] <sonoud> ubuntu^, sorry, when I do "who", i can only see pts/0, pts/1, pts/2 where is the pid number?
[07:21] <chimera321> hi all
[07:21] <dabaR> OrgulloKmoore: active op is chanserv, and ubuntu-es, a user is I do not know, someone:( gatoloko
[07:21] <ubuntu> sonoud; do w
[07:21] <FlannelKing> Solen, is there a listing of package changes for breezy/hoary (as in, these packages were removed from the repos, etc etc)?
[07:21] <chimera321> anyone know where I can get gcc 3.4?
[07:21] <dabaR> hooligan: no, you do not. right click on the file, properties, permissions, and add a check into executable for owner.
[07:21] <deFrysk> !info gcc3.4
[07:21] <chimera321> anyone know where I can get gcc 3.4?
[07:21] <OrgulloKmoore> okey
[07:21] <ubuntu> !info gcc3.4
[07:21] <nalioth> chimera321: from synaptic
[07:22] <sonoud> ubuntu, sorry, what does "do w" mean? who -w ?
[07:22] <FlannelKing> So, is there a listing of package changes for breezy/hoary (as in, these packages were removed from the repos, etc etc)?
[07:22] <chimera321> it only has 4.04 or something
[07:22] <nickrud> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[07:22] <dabaR> sonoud: w is a command, try it.
[07:22] <chimera321> I need 3.4 to install nVidia drivers
[07:22] <nalioth> chimera321: i beg to differ with you, there are many gcc's to choose from
[07:22] <bur[n] er> anyone very familiar with PDAs?
[07:22] <rlynch> ah sorry for the disconnect all, anyone want to help me get Howl or Avahi running?
[07:22] <deFrysk> chimera321, no you need nvidia-glx
[07:23] <bur[n] er> the Palm TX seems appealing so far
[07:23] <johan__> anyone know a nice graphical sensor program? so i can view my motherboard sensors?
[07:23] <el_toro> rlynch: sudo apt-get install avahi, no?
[07:23] <sonoud> dabaR, ubuntu , hi, i did "w", but i still can't see the pid.
[07:23] <rlynch> el_toro: well, i need to get it to run
[07:23] <OrgulloKmoore> dabaR: Can you name a user that is actually talking in the channel
[07:23] <OrgulloKmoore> like...ya know?
[07:23] <el_toro> rlynch: that doesn't start it for you as well?
[07:23] <rlynch> el_toro: no it does not
[07:23] <chimera321> nalioth, there is also 3.3,but no 3.4:(
[07:24] <hooligan> rabad
[07:24] <nalioth> chimera321: are you using official ubuntu repos?
[07:24] <hooligan> dabar*
[07:24] <chimera321> no
[07:24] <el_toro> rlynch: a logout/reboot didn't make a difference?
[07:24] <nalioth> chimera321: then that is why
[07:24] <nalioth> !info gcc-3.4
[07:24] <chimera321> how do I use them?
[07:24] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.4-6ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 473 kB, Installed size: 4520 kB
[07:24] <rlynch> el_toro: nope
[07:24] <hooligan> Ok I checked execute
[07:24] <hooligan> Now what?
[07:24] <el_toro> rlynch: which packages do you have installed exactly?
[07:24] <nalioth> chimera321: i would hope if you are running ubuntu you are only running ubuntu repos
[07:24] <Antioch_> Is using the fakeroot method the only way to install Java 1.5?
[07:24] <nalioth> Antioch_: no it is not
[07:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Antioch_ about javadeb
[07:25] <Antioch_> nalioth, what otehr ways are there?
[07:25] <chimera321> I added extra repos as suggested in www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:25] <nickrud> !ubuntuguide
[07:25] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[07:25] <bur[n] er> ooh... chimera321, i'd steer clear of ubuntuguide :\
[07:25] <hooligan> who wants to help me install a simple app?
[07:25] <nalioth> Antioch_: reading your private msgs would be one
[07:25] <deFrysk> Antioch, if you naad java in your path you can put this in your .bashrc : export PATH="${PATH}:/path/to/your/javaversion/bin/"
[07:25] <chimera321> so what can I do now besides hammering my PC?
[07:25] <Antioch_> nalioth, thanks Ill take a look
[07:25] <rlynch> el_toro: avahi-daemon, avahi-dnsconfd, avahi-utils, libavahi-client, libavahi-common0, python2.4-avahi, libavahi-glib0
[07:26] <deFrysk> naad = need
[07:26] <chimera321> so what can I do now besides hammering my PC?
[07:26] <nickrud> that factoid need to be more forceful, like, 'if you use ubnutuguide, you are cutting your throat'
[07:26] <Ekibyougami> lol
[07:26] <bigfoot2> hello i was talking to someone about 3 hours ago about rm converter, but i forgot your nickname. are you still here?
[07:26] <bur[n] er> chimera321: take some time and figure it out... or just reinstall
[07:26] <nalioth> chimera321: remove any non official repos from your sources.list  and hope you havent hosed your box
[07:26] <el_toro> rlynch: does sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon start do it?
[07:26] <sonoud> ubuntu, hi, i did "w", but still can't see pid.
[07:26] <Ekibyougami> chimera321, a hammer is a windows only tool
[07:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chimera321 about sources
[07:26] <chimera321> lol
[07:26] <dabaR> sonoud: it does not show it...
[07:26] <bigfoot2> can someone with a windows pc help me do something please?
[07:26] <rlynch> hmm, it says daemon is already running
[07:27] <sonoud> dabaR, yeah, so i can't kill the pid. so weird. i even don't know how to kill a user.
[07:27] <dabaR> bigfoot2: on #ubuntu a windows pc? ask.
[07:27] <Ekibyougami> whatcha need bigfoot2?
[07:27] <rlynch> el_toro: so it must be cvs'd rhythmbox not accepting avahi good
[07:27] <bigfoot2> dabaR: i meant someone with both ubuntu and windows on their pc.
[07:27] <dabaR> bigfoot2: ask
[07:28] <rlynch> delete their windows partition?
[07:28] <el_toro> rlynch: ah, that's what I thought you were using it for--i actually couldn't get rhythmbox to recognize the packaged avahi, so I installed it from source
[07:28] <bigfoot2> Ekibyougami: i'm trying to convert an rm (realmedia video) file to mpeg. And I've found programs on the net, but only for windows. Can you download a program and convert a small rm file for me please?
[07:28] <rlynch> el_toro: well im having trouble with the sourced avah
[07:28] <rlynch> el_toro: let me double check today's build
[07:28] <something_else> would it be possible to repartition an existing partition, keep the already installed ubuntu, and use the newly created partition for windows?
[07:28] <el_toro> rlynch: k
[07:28] <Ekibyougami> sure, doesnt sound too bad
[07:29] <da_bon_bon> my kde and xfce menus are mixed .. any suggestions ?
[07:29] <something_else> Ekib, was that a response to me?
[07:30] <bigfoot2> Ekibyougami: okay thanks. the top hit on google for "rm converter" is made by boilsoft. download link is http://www.boilsoft.net/download/rmconverter.exe
[07:30] <dabaR> da_bon_bon: there is a folder with all menus, I think.
[07:30] <rlynch> el_toro: bah, when i compile its looking at my failed Howl install
[07:30] <el_toro> rlynch: ah ha
[07:30] <nickrud> da_bon_bon, what do you mean,
[07:30] <dabaR>  /usr/share maybe.
[07:30] <nickrud> 'mixed'?
[07:30] <rlynch> el_toro: is there an easy way to get rid of that?
[07:30] <dabaR> like, has xfce icons, in kde, or so...
[07:31] <da_bon_bon> nickrud: in xfce, there are double menu entries, and kde menus too. i want xfce to be independant of kde
[07:31] <nalioth> nickrud: the kde and gnome menus are each displayed in the menu (or xfce) doubling the same choices
[07:31] <dabaR> nickrud: never had that?
[07:31] <Carpe_Libertatem> Does Gnomebaker support DVD ISO images for burning?
[07:31] <el_toro> rlynch: you can specify that rhythmbox use avahi--check ./configure --help
[07:31] <dabaR> Carpe_Libertatem: nautilus does.
[07:31] <nickrud> not recently, never run xfce on ubuntu
[07:31] <rlynch> el_toro: k
[07:31] <da_bon_bon> and the menu editor is confusing
[07:31] <bigfoot2> Ekibyougami: and the rm file i want to convert to mpeg is MartinLutherKing's I have a dream speech, at http://www.wordinfo.co.za/ihaveadream-video.rm
[07:31] <dabaR> nickrud: its common.
[07:31] <Carpe_Libertatem> dabaR, so... Gnomebaker doesn't?
[07:32] <nickrud> ok, menu, and menu-xdg are the controlling packages
[07:32] <dabaR> Carpe_Libertatem: no, I did not say that - just an alternative.
[07:32] <nickrud> try removing menu-xdg?
[07:32] <nalioth> bigfoot2: there are other sources of that speech available in more open-source formats
[07:32] <dabaR> nickrud: good idea.
[07:32] <Carpe_Libertatem> dabaR, I'm in Nautilus, how do I select the ISO to burn to DVD?
[07:32] <sonoud> dabaR, ubuntu i found the solution. thanks.
[07:32] <dabaR> right click on the iso.
[07:32] <nalioth> sonoud: right click on it
[07:32] <bigfoot2> nalioth: really? I tried finding it. I gave up.  Please tell me!!!
[07:33] <dabaR> sonoud: what did you do?
[07:33] <Ekibyougami> k, give me a sec
[07:33] <deFrysk> Carpe_Libertatem, too easy eh ;)
[07:33] <da_bon_bon> nickrud: what is menu xdg ?
[07:33] <rlynch> el_toro: k, will try that
[07:33] <Carpe_Libertatem> ...
[07:33] <nickrud> da_bon_bon, apt-cache show menu-xdg
[07:33] <dabaR> .,.
[07:33] <bigfoot2> Ekibyougami: hold on please, perhaps nalioth knows better sources!
[07:33] <Ekibyougami> k
[07:33] <rlynch> el_toro: its not recognizing the ubuntu avahi
[07:33] <sonoud> dabaR, ps -fu <username>. then I can see the pid
[07:34] <el_toro> rlynch: ugh.
[07:34] <el_toro> from source then?
[07:34] <Carpe_Libertatem> dabaR, I don't see an option anywhere to open an ISO and burn it to disc...
[07:34] <sonoud> nalioth, right click on what? doesn't matter. i found the solution.
[07:34] <rlynch> el_toro: maybe you could help me here
[07:34] <hooligan> ok
[07:34] <bigfoot2> nalioth, if you could help me locate this speech-movie in a more open source, I'd appreciate it.
[07:34] <hooligan> dabar
[07:34] <sonoud> nalioth, dabaR ubuntu , thank you very much for help.
[07:34] <FlannelKing> Is there a listing of package changes for breezy/hoary (as in, these packages were removed from the repos, etc etc)?
[07:34] <hooligan> First off how do I get peoples names
[07:34] <rlynch> el_toro: when i configure the source, i get an 'AM_PATH_PYTHON' not found in library
[07:34] <hooligan> like
[07:34] <hooligan> name:
[07:34] <deFrysk> Carpe_Libertatem, just right-click the iso > burn to whatever
[07:34] <hooligan> in the chat window
[07:34] <rlynch> el_toro: that name doesn't ring a bell, where would that be from?
[07:34] <da_bon_bon> nickrud: how would removing menu-xdg help ?
[07:34] <bigfoot2> hooligan: type the first letters and then hit tab
[07:34] <hooligan> el toro = in so cal
[07:35] <Carpe_Libertatem> deFrysk, ah, ok... I was going about it the wrong way. Thank you.
[07:35] <rlynch> el_toro: any clue on that?
[07:35] <hooligan> dabaR, I got the gtk
[07:36] <el_toro> rlynch: doesn't ring a bell
[07:36] <hooligan> dabaR,  what do i run now?
[07:36] <nickrud> if it does, it's a bug. menu-xdg creates free desktop menu entries in /usr/share/applications; menu is the old debian menu system
[07:36] <dabaR> hooligan: oh ya...well, sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella
[07:36] <rlynch> how would i ask the bot in here for it?
[07:36] <Carpe_Libertatem> This is really weird. My burner is burning at less than 1x all of a sudden. o_o
[07:36] <da_bon_bon> maybe i will edit xfce menus by hand :(
[07:36] <dabaR> hooligan: Apps on the top>Internet>gtk-gnutella
[07:36] <Ekibyougami> bah, my windows network just randomly vanished
[07:36] <nickrud> when I used last used xfce, it only recognized entries that menu controlled
[07:36] <seymour> is there a way to animate your vector art with inkscape?
[07:37] <dabaR> da_bon_bon: just rename them all.
[07:37] <dabaR> did anyone read the ubuntu faq?
[07:37] <mllr> Is gftp any good? Or can anyone think of something better. I'm looking for a new ftp client for X.
[07:37] <dabaR> mllr: synaptic:P
[07:37] <dabaR> sftp, mllr
[07:37] <da_bon_bon> dabaR: rename which ?
[07:38] <Vanish> Any know how to set Amarok to 5.1 output?
[07:38] <dabaR> mllr: hah, nautilus, I mean.
[07:38] <Antioch_> How do you change which java versino the system is using?
[07:38] <FlannelKing> dabaR, I imagine a bunch of people don't know about it.  I just now found it
[07:38] <hooligan> were all of u overwhelmed when u first instlaled linux
[07:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Antioch_ about multijava
[07:38] <rlynch> el_toro: ah its part of automake1.9
[07:38] <dabaR> Antioch_: install a new one, remove the old...create your deb,
[07:38] <rlynch> el_toro: got it now :-)
[07:38] <el_toro> rlynch: brilliant
[07:38] <nickrud> da_bon_bon, ask this question on #xubuntu
[07:38] <rlynch> el_toro: had 1.7 onlu
[07:39] <bigfoot2> nalioth?
[07:39] <Antioch_> nalioth, thanks
[07:39] <bigfoot2> nalioth: do know where to find the MLK speech in an opensource format?
[07:39] <dabaR> bigfoot2: does google?
[07:39] <bigfoot2> dabaR: i can't seem to find it usnig google.
[07:39] <Vanish> Any know how to set Amarok to 5.1 output?
[07:39] <nalioth> bigfoot2: i'm searching google now, as you can do also
[07:40] <bigfoot2> nalioth, i am, but i guess i don't really know what keywords to use.
[07:40] <FlannelKing> Opensource format? as n what?
[07:40] <FlannelKing> mp3?
[07:40] <FlannelKing> or txt?
[07:40] <dabaR> FlannelKing: ya mp3
[07:40] <nnonix> Amarok crashes
[07:40] <FlannelKing> http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/Ihaveadream.htm
[07:40] <nalioth> bigfoot2: join #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:41] <FlannelKing> link there, learn to google
[07:41] <jessid> helo
[07:41] <jessid> hello
[07:41] <hooligan> Is there anyone who can step by step help me install a simple app
[07:41] <bigfoot2> FlannelKing:  that has only the audio. I'm looking for video
[07:41] <calamari> did the breezy developers enjoy wiping out my grub menu.lst without providing a backup?
[07:42] <deFrysk> calamari, pebkac
[07:42] <FlannelKing> bigfoot2 boggle, what file type?
[07:42] <Sirrush> Hello Everyone
[07:42] <calamari> I hope so... because then someone would be enjoying it :)
[07:42] <tritium> calamari, that's not how the upgrade works
[07:42] <Vanish> what audio program plays mp3's in 5.1 output?
[07:42] <CuriousCat> hey folks! has anybody tried creating a package for ndiswrapper-1.4
[07:42] <deFrysk> Vanish, none
[07:42] <calamari> can mp3 encode 5.1?  didn't know that.. cool
[07:42] <jessid> I think I am having big problems trying to make the correct question, but I hope this one is more specifyc: How can I do GNOME to find an application that is not in $PATH????
[07:43] <bigfoot2> FlannelKing: what do you mean "what file type"?
[07:43] <FlannelKing> bigfoot2, offtopic
[07:43] <Sirrush> CuriousCat,  I met a guy awhile back I think he was thinking of doing it indivually
[07:43] <Sirrush> but that would have taken forever
[07:43] <deFrysk> jessid, like so : put this in your .bashrc :
[07:44] <deFrysk> jessid, export PATH="${PATH}:/path/to/your/javaversion/bin/"
[07:44] <deFrysk> jessid, and adust the line to your path
[07:44] <nalioth> Antioch_: the alternates thing didnt work?
[07:44] <Sirrush> What bitrate what that mp3 be at?
[07:44] <CuriousCat> Sirrush, well, I was trying to use this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto.  But I"m getting errors.
[07:45] <dazvid> How do i set my gcc version for a particular installation?
[07:45] <Sirrush> Ops CuriousCat  I confused you with someone else you're not the mp3 encoding guy
[07:45] <calamari> well, they do say to make a backup.. glad I backed up /boot :)
[07:45] <nalioth> dazvid: in the terminal you are working in, type "
[07:45] <CuriousCat> Sirrush: LOL! No worries.
[07:45] <Sirrush> Sorry about that buddy
[07:45] <Ekibyougami> lol, i just got to watch explorer crash in a remote client window
[07:45] <nalioth> CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" or whatever version you want
[07:45] <dazvid> nalioth, yes I need 3.4 :)
[07:46] <dazvid> thanks nalioth
[07:46] <dazvid> Might be back if theres any other troubles (updating drivers)
[07:46] <Ekibyougami> i should have printscreen'd that
[07:46] <dazvid> I have learned to back up EVERYTHING that I change though :)
[07:46] <Sirrush> Hey CuriousCat  what version of Ubuntu are you using
[07:46] <CuriousCat> what's the place to paste my errors for this room again?
[07:47] <deFrysk> CuriousCat, see /topic
[07:47] <CuriousCat> Sirrush: Breezy.
[07:47] <dazvid> CuriousCat, #flood or pastebin
[07:47] <bigfoot2> CuriousCat: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:47] <dazvid>  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell CuriousCat about paste
[07:47] <jessid> deFrysk man, I have already done that, and it works perfectly well in a terminal, but not if I try to double click the .class file. So I right click that file, open with another app, I write java, and I get an error message: could not find java...
[07:47] <Sirrush> CuriousCat, I am using breezy aswell just installed; I installed ndiswrappers and utils even the frontend all from the repo
[07:48] <dabaR> script why .class...
[07:48] <deFrysk> jessid, the line is put in your  .bashrc ?
[07:49] <jessid> deFrysk yes!. The line is: export PATH=$PATH:/opt/jdk1.5.0_05/bin
[07:49] <alekz> hi, i've  just downloaded noip source, and there is a file named debian.noip2.sh its recommended to install debian version or the otherone ?
[07:49] <rlynch> El_Che: k, i got it more or less working, i just gotta hit the sack, but thanks for the help
[07:50] <Ekibyougami> dont remember exiting lol
[07:50] <deFrysk> jessid, did you install the .deb as propesed in the wiki ?
[07:50] <deFrysk> proposed*
[07:50] <jessid> deFrysk eh nop!
[07:50] <deFrysk> jessid, oops
[07:50] <deFrysk> !tell jessid about java
[07:51] <jessid> deFrysk jeje...I am walking to the wiki... :(
[07:51] <deFrysk> jessid, read it carefully
[07:51] <deFrysk> jessid, its not hard , just follow the directions properly
[07:52] <jessid> deFrysk ok. Thanks a lot for your time.
[07:52] <Vanish> Is their a short-cut key to switch Workplace area?
[07:52] <dazvid> nalioth, it seems that the command CC=/blahlbah/ didnt properly set the version
[07:52] <dazvid> Any reason as to why it wouldn't work?
[07:52] <deFrysk> jessid, and remove the version you previously installed
[07:52] <sonoud> hi, I have a perl script. I want other people to be able to use it, but not be able to read it. i failed to do this. if the perl scrip only other executable, it won't be able to run. show me permission denied. have to make it other readable too. how to solve this problem?
[07:52] <Toba> the package tcl8.4 is installed, but there is no command called "tcl" in my path
[07:52] <Toba> why is that?
[07:53] <Toba> and a find found no executable called tcl
[07:53] <Toba> as root on /
[07:53] <dabaR> sonoud that is actually a good question...let me know when you find out, please.
[07:53] <deFrysk> Toba, what does tcl do ?
[07:53] <sonoud> dabaR, thanks a lot.
[07:53] <Toba> it's a scripting language
[07:53] <FlannelKing> tcl is tool command language
[07:53] <Toba> wait
[07:53] <Toba> not scripting?
[07:53] <Toba> I thought it was
[07:54] <sonoud> dabaR, i will tell you when I found out. :)
[07:54] <da_bon_bon> anyone here using xfce ?
[07:54] <Toba> all I want to do is get an eggdrop bot running an rss script
[07:54] <Toba> but eggdrop needs tcl
[07:54] <dabaR> #xface
[07:54] <Toba> err
[07:54] <Toba> eggdrop
[07:54] <jessid> what is a Linux self extracting file?
[07:54] <jessid> an RPM?
[07:54] <deFrysk> jessid, a .bin
[07:54] <jessid> ah! ok
[07:55] <pepsi_> nick Foxy
[07:55] <pepsi_> oops
[07:55] <deFrysk>  /
[07:55] <FlannelKing> Tcl is a scripting language, who said it wasnt?
[07:55] <pepsi_> thanks :)
[07:55] <dabaR> foxy eh?
[07:56] <Toba> FlannelKing: I just hope the ubuntu package for eggdrop works
[07:56] <Toba> meh
[07:56] <alekz> make is not installed in the base system ??
[07:56] <dazvid> !nvidia
[07:56] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:56] <nalioth> dazvid: if i dont screw up and hit <enter> while i'm telling you
[07:56] <starscalling> nvidia for me was pretty easy
[07:56] <dazvid> Oh i  need to quote marks?
[07:56] <nalioth> dazvid: "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4"
[07:56] <dazvid> aaaah
[07:56] <dazvid> lol
[07:56] <dazvid> that helps
[07:56] <starscalling> what nvidia card?
[07:56] <nalioth> dazvid: no, but i screwed up and hit enter instead of quote whallago
[07:56] <sonoud> dabaR, nobody answered me. i think i will just do : write a c program, system call that perl script. so people won't know actually I am running perl script or where it is.
[07:57] <nalioth> dazvid: and the split line confused the issue
[07:57] <dazvid> starscalling, theres no problems, just need gcc 3.4 for the install :)
[07:57] <dazvid> 6800gt
[07:57] <starscalling> :)
[07:57] <starscalling> sweet
[07:57] <calamari> aha.. update-grub is the culprit.. it overwrites the menu.lst
[07:57] <dabaR> sonoud: I cant wait to see the c program, please send it here.
[07:57] <alekz> !make
[07:57] <ubotu> alekz: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:57] <graig> Is it possible to change clearlooks so that it has round edges?
[07:57] <sonoud> dabaR, I gotta go now. my school lab is going to force me logout. happy birthday. :)
[07:57] <dazvid> Updating from 7667 drivers to 7676, want to see if theres any difference in games
[07:58] <dabaR> ya ok
[07:58] <dazvid> ok take 2
[08:00] <smack> am I going to get hosed if I downgrade my ncurses in breezy to the ncurses in hoary?
[08:00] <Ekibyougami> http://images.geekism.us/roffle.jpg <- lol
[08:00] <smack> I'm trying to figure out this crazy annoying problem where my ncurses programs like irssi and mutt get all corrupted.
[08:00] <Sirrush> Hey guys quick question I'm running Breezy and installed FGLRX for my ati radeon card I get a max of 256 fps on glxgears, it seems to be running awfully slow anyway to speed that up
[08:01] <graig> I don't like how the new clearlooks has square edges, is there any way to make them round?
[08:01] <brownie17> Ekibyougami, how did you get windows to run INSIDE of ubuntu?
[08:02] <shekhar> can someone help me with gtkwifi applet?
[08:02] <nalioth> smack: you running them in a screen session?
[08:02] <Ekibyougami> brownie17, i was connected to my other computer via a remote term
[08:02] <graig> he diddn't thats a terminal server, connection to another computer.
[08:02] <Ekibyougami> but vmware is able to run windows
[08:02] <brownie17> Ekibyougami, ok
[08:02] <graig> the onlything that would l
[08:03] <graig> let, you run windows in linux is xen.
[08:03] <graig> possibly.
[08:03] <Ekibyougami> http://torrentspy.com is not a good place to find vmware
[08:03] <Ekibyougami> =x
[08:03] <Sirrush> lol
[08:03] <Sirrush> mum is the word
[08:03] <nalioth> Ekibyougami: that is off topic
[08:03] <graig> xen is free, vmware is not.  xen doesn't emulate either.
[08:03] <alekz> !mp3
[08:03] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[08:03] <tritium> Ekibyougami, not just that, it's illegal
[08:03] <jsgotangco> bob2, do we have a project cloak?
[08:03] <alekz> !amarok
[08:03] <ubotu> well, amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[08:03] <nalioth> jsgotangco: not yet
[08:03] <jsgotangco> nalioth, thanks
[08:04] <Ekibyougami> support piracy, buy windows
[08:04] <Ekibyougami> [/end]
[08:04] <brownie17> what is all this stuff about installing the meta-packages before upgrading to breezy
[08:04] <jonathan_> Hi. Anybody has succed in running cedega here?
[08:04] <graig> hey, i found a really cool program in the repositories.
[08:04] <tritium> brownie17, to ensure a smooth upgrade.
[08:04] <calamari> graig: kstars?
[08:05] <brownie17> tritium, what are they? don't i allready have the ubuntu-desktop?
[08:05] <chavo> graig, kbattleship?
[08:05] <Ekibyougami> Kill Bill: Gates Edition?
[08:05] <graig> its called dasher. and it lets you type via a scrolling zooming interface that predicts what you type.
[08:05] <tritium> brownie17, that's the main one that you want to have installed
[08:05] <tritium> Ekibyougami, please stop
[08:06] <chavo> calamari, keep that to yourself please :P
[08:06] <DJ_Mirage> calamari, I just installed a server 2003 domain controller, how do you think I feel :(
[08:06] <graig> apparently you can put dasher on small portable handhelds, and use that for the text input.
[08:06] <tritium> graig, yep
[08:06] <Ekibyougami> i still find my windows crashing in a terminal window
[08:07] <calamari> chavo: tried to use mono, but I must admit defeat and use visual studio.. gotta turn in the assignment on the 20th ;)
[08:07] <Ekibyougami> even the fact that the folder 'resurection' was kinda ammusing
[08:07] <brownie17> tritium, so it's telling me to replace my sources.list with this other one, will that still be in effect after the upgrade? will installing breezy wipe anything? like settings or accounts or files?
[08:07] <tritium> brownie17, how do you intend to "install"?
[08:07] <stjepan> hello
[08:07] <tritium> !tell brownie17 about breezy
[08:08] <helpme> help! i had loadshedding while synaptic was applying changes........now it says do dpkg something!
[08:08] <brownie17> tritium, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade the "apt-get" method in there
[08:08] <stjepan> I am "apt-get installing" a program, how to stop?
[08:08] <graig> It's pretty cool.
[08:08] <tritium> brownie17, that will not wipe anything, no
[08:08] <tga> stjepan, ctrl-c
[08:08] <stjepan> tga: is that ok?
[08:09] <tga> is it downloading or installing?
[08:09] <brownie17> tritium, so how long will it take to install after the downloading bit?
[08:09] <helpme> help! i had loadshedding while synaptic was applying changes........now it says do dpkg something!
[08:09] <tga> helpme, dpkg something as it says, doh
[08:09] <nalioth> helpme: do what it says
[08:10] <helpme> dpkg - configure -a i think
[08:10] <tritium> brownie17, depends on your connection bandwidth, and the repository you use
[08:10] <tga> helpme, it's dpkg --configure -a actually
[08:10] <stjepan> tga: downloading
[08:10] <tga> stjepan, no problem, you can ctrl-c it
[08:11] <stjepan> tga: ok, tnx very much
[08:11] <brownie17> tritium, no sorry, i asked badly. how long will the installing bit take. AFTER downloading
[08:11] <tga> stjepan, np
[08:11] <tritium> brownie17, oh, perhaps 30 minutes or so, depending on your machine
[08:12] <helpme> ok i typed that...now its configuring.....thanks!
[08:12] <brownie17> tritium, do you know howe many MB there are of files to download to update?
[08:12] <alekz> anyone can play mp3 with amarok ?
[08:12] <Xnix> alekz i can
[08:12] <Xnix> sec
[08:12] <tritium> brownie17, no, I don't know, sorry
[08:12] <alekz> Xnix, what did u do for that ?
[08:12] <tritium> probably a couple hundred MB, brownie17
[08:13] <helpme> what packages do i need to see a gnome desktop? the ENTIRE thing??
[08:13] <brownie17> tritium, do you know what NFS is?
[08:13] <jessid> deFrysk si seor!!! funciona!!! It works man, thanks a lot
[08:13] <tritium> yes, brownie17, why?
[08:13] <Xnix> alekz https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:13] <Xnix> that should do it for you alekz
[08:13] <alekz> Xnix, let me check thanks bro
[08:13] <alekz> :)
[08:13] <dazvid> !nvidia
[08:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:15] <brownie17> tritium, the guide tells me i might need to disable it, do i use it?
[08:15] <tritium> brownie17, no, you'd know if you used it
[08:15] <Tomcat_> helpme: ubuntu-desktop
[08:15] <brownie17> tritium, ok
[08:15] <Noob22> Hi every one i'm a new user of ubuntu, and i'm looking for the way to install it on HD (i'm using the live CD at this time)... any help ?
[08:15] <helpme> Tomcat_: with all the gnome apps too?
[08:16] <brownie17> tritium, do you have any idea what the speed i am likely to get from the main server is? i.e. should i get a mirror?
[08:16] <nalioth> Noob22: use an install cd
[08:16] <helpme> Noob22: if its cd u can't....if its dvd u can
[08:16] <helpme> Noob22: yup u need the install cd
[08:16] <Noob22> Thanks i know my PB right now...
[08:16] <Tomcat_> helpme: Yes. It will install everything that a regular Ubuntu installation has.
[08:16] <tritium> brownie17, it depends on a variety of factors.  Just give it a try, and see.
[08:16] <helpme> i see
[08:17] <Tomcat_> helpme: Might not be 100% what gnome has though.
[08:17] <helpme> Tomcat_: okie
[08:17] <nalioth> brownie17: you'll be fine, just follow the simple instructions
[08:18] <brownie17> nalioth, ok, i am a little worried about apparnetly needing to reconfigure X. if X isn't working, i won't be able to boot will i?
[08:18] <tritium> brownie17, you will
[08:19] <brownie17> tritium, ok im doing it now
[08:19] <nalioth> brownie17: sure you will
[08:19] <Noob22> Another question if it's possible... in the distrib 5.04, is there a solution to format a hard drive ? Thks in advance.
[08:19] <tritium> brownie17, one sec...
[08:19] <FlannelKing> brownie17, I was getting 150K earlier today.  Got the whole thing done in an hour
[08:19] <nalioth> Noob22: there are hard drive tools in ubuntu
[08:19] <furic> In gnome/hoary how can i get the system to rotate my screen by 90 degrees one direction?
[08:19] <tritium> if gdm does not start, for whatever reason that you're worried about, do you know how to use irssi to chat on IRC from the console?
[08:20] <LasseL> Noob22, try gparted
[08:20] <Noob22> Thanks nalioth.......I prefere the Lassel answer anyway....
[08:20] <aeon17x> furic: try tilting your monitor to the side. :)
[08:21] <Noob22> I'm gonna try that...tks again mate.
[08:21] <nalioth> Noob22: are you working with a windows hard drive?
[08:21] <furic> Yes yes, i mean how do i get it to display sideways, so when i tilt my monitor it is the right way up...?
[08:21] <FlannelKing> furic, it's more likely to be a graphics card configuration
[08:21] <Noob22> I'm workin with all HD system including Windows why ?
[08:21] <benplaut> helpme: need help? :P
[08:21] <furic> Where would i find that?
[08:22] <helpme> yes.....what was that command? dpi or something? to fix large menus & iconss?
[08:22] <nalioth> Noob22: because qtparted uses ntfsprogs which gparted does not
[08:22] <helpme> im on kubuntu...i installed gdm....now ive got large menu and icons in kde.....plz help!
[08:22] <furic> I have an nvidia geforce 2, i remember the propritary windows driver had a function like that, and i think ive even seen options in kde for it too
[08:23] <tritium> helpme, did you ask in #kubuntu?
[08:23] <alekz> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:23] <alekz> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:23] <alekz> what that means ?
[08:23] <aftertaf> :gpgerr
[08:23] <aftertaf> !gpgerr
[08:23] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[08:23] <FlannelKing> furic, try the nvidia-settings package
[08:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell alekz about gpgerr
[08:23] <helpme> i ask here bcoz ppl here know better...its not kde-related but linux related.....theres some dpi command something
[08:23] <aeon17x> alekz: sudo apt-get update
[08:24] <aeon17x> it'll try to fix whatever is wrong with your repos
[08:24] <tga> helpme, try #kubuntu
[08:24] <bradd> hey guys.. I just rebuilt my kernel and made it active.. I had previously installed 'nvidia-glx' with the old kernel.. X was working fine.. now I get a 'nvidia module not found'.. any ideas?
[08:24] <helpme> !info dpi
[08:24] <Noob22> Nalioth.......... i'm just lookin for a prog to format in X system to use it for X data... i have more than 30 HD... one for each test
[08:24] <helpme> tga: i already tried
[08:24] <mustard5> bradd reinstall the drivers?
[08:24] <furic> I have problems with the nvidia linux driver though, so im on the open source one, do you know if nvidia-settings only works with the nvidia drivers?
[08:24] <alekz> aeon17x, that error was given when i typed apt-get update
[08:24] <nalioth> Noob22: sounds like a batch script job to me
[08:25] <tritium> bradd, yeah, you need to build the nvidia module now that you've built your own kenrel
[08:25] <tritium> kernel
[08:25] <shaun_> When I press ctrl+alt+backspace, I want it to restart Gnome. Right now, ctrl+alt+backspace just stops Gnome and shows console mode. How do I fix this?
[08:25] <bradd> ok, so just download it from Nvidias site?
[08:25] <mustard5> ubotu: tell bradd about nvidia
[08:26] <tritium> no, bradd
[08:26] <aeon17x> ah, ok... just ignore it, it just says that they aren't authenticated yet
[08:26] <mustard5> check private messager from ubotu bradd
[08:26] <alekz> u are wizards guys :P
[08:26] <furic> nvidia-settings give me no configuration options on the open source driver...
[08:26] <bradd> ok guys.. I'll try that guide.. thanks
[08:26] <tritium> furic, it's not for the open source driver
[08:27] <Noob22> Nalioth......sorry i'm not saying that i'm gonna used all of my 30HD... only one is enough for a newbie like me...i'm just an alpha & beta tester, and i'm always looking for new systems and soft.
[08:27] <furic> Well thats the driver im using...
[08:27] <topyli> shaun_: ctrl-alt-backspace kills X. i don't know how to start X with a specific session for a specific user automatically, if it's possible at all
[08:27] <furic> can't i change screen orientation in software? seems to simple to not be possible
[08:28] <shaun_> topyli: hmm...according to the FAQ, it is supposed to restart Gnome
[08:28] <topyli> shaun_: if you're running gdm, it will restart after you kill X. not gnome
[08:28] <aftertaf> topyli:  you can set that in the logon manager, autologin for a certain user
[08:29] <bradd> ok, I tried 'apt-get install nvidia-glx' but it sez its installed.. can I force an install of it for my new kernel?
[08:29] <topyli> aftertaf: but his box coes into "console mode", so it sounds like there's no gdm
[08:29] <tritium> bradd, you need to _build_ the kernel module
[08:29] <tritium> bradd, it's normally provided by linux-restricted-modules, but you've chosen to build your own kernel
[08:29] <bradd> so somewhere in menuconfig I'll find it??
[08:29] <aftertaf> ahh....   shaun_ :   type "ls /etc/init.d/ and see if you have gdm or kdm
[08:30] <tritium> no, bradd
[08:30] <dazvid> whats a good vim command to insert a "#" at the start of every line?
[08:30] <bradd> :%s/^/#/g
[08:30] <dazvid> Thanks
[08:30] <mustard5> bradd would probably need the binary drivers wouldn't he?
[08:31] <tritium> no, he built his own kernel, so now he has to build the kernel module
[08:31] <mustard5> from nvidia stie?
[08:31] <mustard5> ah ok
[08:31] <dazvid> bradd, that didnt quite work, only puts the # on the last line
[08:31] <tritium> bradd, you need to install nvidia-kernel-source, and build it
[08:31] <shaun_> aftertaf: gdm
[08:31] <bradd> ok
[08:31] <tritium> bradd, why did you build your own?
[08:32] <bradd> I'm trying to get mythtv running on my box and that requires 'lirc' and lirc requires some stuff from the kernel build
[08:32] <topyli> shaun_: doesn't it restart when you kill X?
[08:32] <tritium> well, it doesn't strictly require lirc
[08:32] <aftertaf> shaun_:  ok.   when you end up in console, does alt + F7 put you back in X?
[08:32] <bradd> well right, but I want my remote to work
[08:33] <shaun_> topyli: no, it doesn't
[08:33] <shaun_> aftertaf: I thought that might work, but it doesn't
[08:33] <nalioth> aftertaf: if he ctrl-alt-backspaces and ends up in a console, he may need to try "startx"
[08:34] <tritium> bradd, you should be able to build the lirc modules using only the kernel headers for the stock ubuntu kernel image you have
[08:34] <shaun_> nalioth: I have to login to type startx...it's a pain
[08:34] <aftertaf> shaun_:  when you boot your pc, do you get the gdm login screen, or straight to X?
[08:34] <topyli> shaun_: as an aside, gnome-session doesn't like to be killed. you should log out properly
[08:34] <starscalling> if, in bash, i execute a command and at the end of it go <space> && <another command> will it just execute the second command after the first one aotumagically? and can i chain like 5-7 commands together?
[08:34] <tritium> bradd, it shouldn't require a full kernel compile
[08:34] <mustard5> shaun_, a painful necessity perhaps :)
[08:34] <nalioth> shaun_: as aftertaf asked, when you ctrl-alt-backspace, can you get back to a gui by pressing ctrl-alt-f7 ?
[08:34] <fishhead> .
[08:34] <shaun_> aftertaf: gdm login
[08:35] <fishhead> anyone here running ubuntu on a k6-2
[08:35] <mae> Is there any way I can print to pdf rather than my physical printer in ubuntu?
[08:35] <starscalling> fishhead: what counds as a k6-2
[08:35] <shaun_> nalioth: let me try again
[08:35] <starscalling> not an atholon right
[08:35] <fishhead> uhh
[08:35] <nalioth> mae: openoffice offers that option
[08:35] <fishhead> a amd k6-2 cpu?
[08:35] <fishhead> no
[08:35] <starscalling> ah
[08:35] <tritium> bradd, if you're running a stock ubuntu kernel, you can "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`", and then build the lirc modules with that, while still running the stock ubuntu kernel
[08:35] <fishhead> athlon is after k6-2
[08:35] <aftertaf> shaun_:  ok. so we have gdm that does run, but seems to die on Kill X. When you kill X and end up in console, does ps -A show you gdm running?
[08:35] <starscalling> sorry no then :/
[08:35] <fishhead> the problem so much isn't the cpu but the shitty board chipsets
[08:36] <fishhead> I am done with trying to run windows 2000 or xp on them
[08:36] <starscalling> ah
[08:36] <fishhead> plus I keep finding PII class boxes in the trash
[08:36] <starscalling> youll like ubuntu better i bet
[08:36] <fishhead> so I have no reason to deal with them anymore either
[08:36] <Orborde> aftertaf: Not to be dumb and randomly jump in, but doesn't gdm die with X?
[08:36] <fishhead> I used to be a major linux vet till I burned out
[08:36] <topyli> mae: in gnome, i get a pdf option in every print dialog. perhaps it's a cups driver you should add
[08:36] <fishhead> wanna get back into it
[08:36] <jozephus> hi every1
[08:36] <bradd> tritium: ok
[08:36] <fishhead> espically since now linux has excellent video support
[08:36] <starscalling> but i dont do any major gaming
[08:37] <aftertaf> Orborde:  dunno. i use kdm and it is fire resistant in that way......      but not dumb!
[08:37] <starscalling> i bomb out on other things :P
[08:37] <Noob22> fishhead i can help you about your K6-2 to understand what's wrong with it... if you want to
[08:37] <topyli> Orborde: it does, but it always tries to respawn immediately
[08:37] <aftertaf> Orborde:  and being on here and having an idea gives you the right to randomly jump in..... ;)
[08:37] <shaun_> ctrl+alt+F7 takes me to a screen with a blinking cursor. It doesn't respond after that.
[08:37] <fishhead> noob22 I been a pc hardware tech for 12+ yrs
[08:37] <Orborde> topyli: That's what I thought.
[08:37] <fishhead> I know what's wrong with it
[08:37] <fishhead> VIA
[08:37] <FlannelKing> mae, there is a cups pdf printer in the repos
[08:37] <fishhead> back then they sucked ass
[08:37] <fishhead> more unstable than I am
[08:37] <mae> FlannelKing, any idea what its called?
[08:37] <tritium> fishhead, please tone down the language just a tad
[08:38] <fishhead> trit sorry
[08:38] <tritium> no worries
[08:38] <Noob22> Okkkkkkkk no problemo... you don't know me eather
[08:38] <mae> FlannelKing, nm found it, much thanks.
[08:38] <fishhead> noob2 I appreciate it though
[08:38] <fishhead> we should chat about hw sometime :)
[08:38] <shaun_> I am wondering if there is a config file or something that may have been messed with when I did something
[08:38] <fishhead> linux has a lot more workarounds for mvp3  and shitty 586/686 south bridge bugs
[08:38] <tritium> what was that something?
[08:38] <jozephus> i'm running UBUNTU LIVE - cos that's the only way i can connect through my wireless
[08:38] <fishhead> opps
[08:38] <fishhead> dammit
[08:38] <aftertaf> shaun_:  ah... only you can tell us that ;)
[08:39] <fishhead> sorry I am drugged up trit
[08:39] <fishhead> I forgot
[08:39] <tritium> no worries, fishhead
[08:39] <bigfoot2> can somebody help me? I have an .mpg file. If I burn it on a disc, will it play on any regular DVD player?
[08:39] <fishhead> has to be mpeg-2 format
[08:39] <tritium> no, it won't bigfoot1
[08:39] <shaun_> aftertaf: I noticed it stopped working after I changed a menu item in smeg
[08:39] <fishhead> for a normal dvd player to read it
[08:39] <jozephus> but i would like 2 run debian sarge - i just can't get it 2 pick my wireless card
[08:39] <vanksi> morning, just installed ubuntu on this hp omnibook 6100, and suprisingly almost everything works ootb, the only thing is i can't get pcmcia working, i have a pcmcia wlan card (oricono) and when i plug it in, i get nothing, not even a beeb in /var/log/messages
[08:39] <nalioth> fishhead: not so, it can be burned as a vcd using mpeg1
[08:40] <tritium> jozephus, why not run ubuntu instead then?
[08:40] <fishhead> nalio not so either
[08:40] <fishhead> the dvd player much support vcd format
[08:40] <fishhead> a lot didn'yt
[08:40] <fishhead> because cd's use a different laser spectrum than dvd does
[08:40] <shaun_> aftertaf: the next time I installed Ubuntu, smeg didn't cause it
[08:40] <fishhead> some can't even handle dvd+r or -r even still
[08:40] <nalioth> bigfoot2: this is not the best place to ask about a/v stuff
[08:40] <jozephus> i want 2 try diff distros
[08:40] <bigfoot2> fishhead, tritium, nalioth, please keep arguing until we reach the truth. By the way, my media will be a CD-Rom, and not a dvd disc
[08:40] <fishhead> nalioth good thought though L(
[08:40] <jozephus> used red hat - suse - mandrake
[08:40] <fishhead> :P
[08:41] <FlannelKing> bigfoot2, then you wont be able to get it to work in a DVDplayer
[08:41] <helpme> jozephus: u can of course:)
[08:41] <nalioth> bigfoot2: ask uncle google "howto vcd authoring linux"
[08:41] <fishhead> bigfoot2 this isn't the greatest channel for this but there is a lot of auth tools out there
[08:41] <fishhead> even ones for my palm :)
[08:41] <bigfoot2> FlannelKing: but i burned an mp3 file onto a cd-rom and it works on the dvd-player
[08:41] <fishhead> so just do a little research cause I haven't had time to play with these or I would help
[08:41] <tritium> bigfoot1, simply burning an mpg to disc will not work, but you can use various tools to burn vcds or dvds
[08:41] <fishhead> should be easy
[08:41] <Noob22> ok no worry ... you are right about HW trouble... It's not and AMD trouble, its a co-proc wrong-design... the only good config with AMD is made by Compaq-HP.... and there is no way for VIA stuff... anyway good day for all and UX
[08:41] <FlannelKing> bigfoot2, yeah, some DVDplayers read music (and pictures) off of CDs
[08:42] <bigfoot2> i'm a newbie, so what tool should i look for?
[08:42] <FlannelKing> bigfoot2, some DVDplayers will play VCDs though,
[08:42] <nalioth> bigfoot2: use your "apt-cache search" and search for 'vcd'
[08:42] <nalioth> bigfoot2: help yourself with your availabe tools
[08:42] <dell500> i'm  trying to copy a  dir to a  ~/.  dir, how do i only copy the contents of the folder being copied in command?
[08:42] <bigfoot2> FlannelKing: i have an idea, why don't i burn the file in various formats, just to be sure.
[08:42] <jozephus> can i do DVD AUTHORING with UBUNTU???
[08:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dell500 about cli
[08:42] <tritium> yes, jozephus.  Please don't yell
[08:42] <nalioth> jozephus: yes you can, and please watch the caps
[08:43] <jozephus> sorry :(
[08:43] <FlannelKing> bigfoot2, burning a file to a CD wont necessarily make it work, things have to be set up correctly.
[08:43] <fishhead> crap
[08:43] <Noob22> See you and thanks again Nalioth for your information, i'm gonna take a look at the QTPARTED stuff.
[08:43] <vanksi> when i manually kill cardmgr and restart it i get a kernel message saying cs: unable to map card memory! anyone had the similar problem?
[08:43] <jozephus> what do i use?
[08:43] <bigfoot2> FlannelKing: what things  have to be set up?
[08:43] <fishhead> I just realized I have 2 k6-2 450's plus the one I am going to get back from my sister when I replace it with whatever PII I have tests stable
[08:43] <FlannelKing> bigfoot2, suggest you check with your DVD Player to see if it plays VCDs
[08:43] <fishhead> 2 mvp3 and 1 sis chipset
[08:43] <bigfoot2> FlannelKing: if it does?
[08:43] <nalioth> jozephus: search at packages.ubuntu.com for 'dvd'
[08:44] <bigfoot2> if it does, then what do i do? if it doesn't what format should i use?
[08:44] <FlannelKing> bigfoot2, it's like CD players, you can't just burn a wav file to a CD, and have it work in CD players, you need to finalize the CD, etc
[08:44] <nalioth> bigfoot2: you have to author the vcd
[08:44] <jozephus> cos about 3 days ago i decided to ditch windows and want 2 run linux only
[08:44] <tritium> bigfoot1, burning a vcd should be the most trivial, as nalioth suggests
[08:44] <nalioth> bigfoot2: there are tools here in ubuntu to do that
[08:44] <jozephus> thanks
[08:44] <nalioth> bigfoot2: ask uncle google what i asked you to, please
[08:44] <mae> Generating PDF is not supported
[08:44] <bigfoot2> nalioth, i'm currently away from my ubuntu box.
[08:44] <Antioch_> How does one change the trashcan icon?
[08:44] <tritium> mae, with what?
[08:44] <mae> tritium, with the print to pdf dialog
[08:45] <mae> in epiphany
[08:45] <mae> or any gnome app
[08:45] <nalioth> bigfoot2: then what are you gonna make the video disk with?
[08:45] <tritium> mae, it is supported
[08:45] <nalioth> mae: only in openoffice, i believe
[08:45] <mae> tritium, i get that error message
[08:45] <bigfoot2> nalioth, windows xp. but i don't know what program to get/use
[08:45] <dell500> nalioth, what about just the contents of  folderA?
[08:45] <nalioth> mae: save your page in the browser, and open it in oOo and save it as a pdf
[08:46] <nalioth> bigfoot2: wish you'd a said that in the first place
[08:46] <mustard5> :)
[08:46] <bigfoot2> nalioth, sorry, i didn't want to turn people off
[08:46] <nalioth> bigfoot2: well now you have much info that cant help you
[08:46] <FlannelKing> naloith, isnt there be a PDF print driver available?
[08:46] <jozephus> and what about printers  - i have a canon ip3000 and lexmark x1180
[08:46] <tritium> mae, I just generated one
[08:46] <jozephus> the latter i use for scanning only
[08:46] <bigfoot2> nalioth, what words should i give uncle google?
[08:46] <mae> tritium, i must be missing some dependency :\
[08:46] <nalioth> FlannelKing: not to my knowledge (but i'm sure if you looked)
[08:46] <mae> i'm on breezy
[08:47] <tritium> bigfoot1, we're not using windows here, buddy.  This is #ubuntu ;)
[08:47] <tritium> mae, so am I
[08:47] <Madpilot> jozephus: the lexmark might be unhappy with Linux - Lexmark can't be bothered to provide driver info
[08:47] <Madpilot> !tell jozephus about printers
[08:47] <nalioth> 01:40 < nalioth> bigfoot2: ask uncle google "howto vcd authoring linux"   << leave off 'linux'
[08:47] <mustard5> cups-pdf?
[08:47] <mae> tritium, i believe you, just saying i'm missing some dependency :P .. mine was upgraded from hoary while breezy was still in heavy dev
[08:47] <tritium> mae, have you updated/upgraded recently?
[08:48] <mae> mustard5, i installed that
[08:48] <mae> tritium, yes
[08:48] <bigfoot2> nalioth thanks
[08:48] <tritium> it should work, then
[08:48] <jozephus> and the canon ip3000?
[08:48] <alekz> anyone knows a repo to download limewire pro ?
[08:48] <jozephus> i use it 2 print on cd
[08:48] <fishhead> is there different cpu optimized versions of unbuntu
[08:48] <nalioth> alekz: we dont offer hot things here
[08:49] <alekz> :o ok nalioth sorry :)
[08:49] <nalioth> fishhead: there are
[08:49] <Noob22> lol
[08:49] <fishhead> cool
[08:49] <tritium> fishhead, different kernels, yes, but not packages
[08:49] <fishhead> oh
[08:49] <fishhead> :/
[08:49] <fishhead> kernel I can do myself :P
[08:49] <Madpilot> jozephus: the ip3000 should run; check the 1st URL that ubotu sent you
[08:49] <r0d> are the QT library files installed in ubuntu by default?
[08:49] <tritium> fishhead, there's typically no need to custom-build kernels
[08:49] <alekz> if i cant install a package is recommedable to install form source ?
[08:49] <nalioth> r0d: if you run kubuntu-desktop
[08:49] <jozephus> k
[08:49] <fishhead> trit I always liked to :)
[08:49] <tritium> alekz, which are you looking for?
[08:49] <r0d> nalioth,  no ubuntu
[08:49] <nalioth> alekz: there are over 16,000 pkgs available
[08:50] <omer> Hello
[08:50] <nalioth> r0d: then no, qt libs are not gonna be there in any measure
[08:50] <alekz> nalioth, well im looking for limewire or another nice p2p client
[08:50] <mustard5> hi omer
[08:50] <nalioth> alekz: gtk-gnutella is functionally equivalent to limewire
[08:50] <Jalexster> I need some help SSHing into my Ubuntu box from my iBook. I can SSH into the Ubuntu box from itself, but not from the iBook. I think I need to add my iBook's IP to the list of allowed hosts. I found the file, but don't know the syntax for adding entries to it.
[08:50] <tritium> fishhead, e.g., linux-386, linux-686, and linux-k7
[08:50] <maxmouse> is there a howto on how to upgrade breezy rc x to the full release?
[08:50] <r0d> nalioth, ok. then can you explain how im running a kde program? was amazed
[08:50] <Noob22> try overnet alekz
[08:50] <tritium> maxmouse, just update/upgrade
[08:50] <nalioth> r0d: i dont like trick questions
[08:50] <maxmouse> oh ok
[08:51] <maxmouse> next question
[08:51] <r0d> nalioth, ?
[08:51] <fishhead> trit yeah I know that much I used to walk people thru kernel builds over the phone
[08:51] <fishhead> long distance
[08:51] <fishhead> :P
[08:51] <signius> r0d what dont you understand about running a kde program
[08:51] <maxmouse> when runnin vmware-config.pl on amd64 kernel i cant compile the vmmon module, any docs on this?
[08:51] <omer> I have ubuntu CD that I burn. The CD isn't working. I want to know if there is option to do installation from the net, when you boot with the CD.
[08:51] <tritium> those are ubuntu packages, fishhead
[08:51] <signius> r0d do you mean your running it in gnome ?
[08:51] <r0d> signius, running a kde program w/ gtk?
[08:51] <r0d> im using ubuntu
[08:52] <r0d> signius, amor
[08:52] <nalioth> r0d: obviously if you are running a kde program, you have some qt libs on your box
[08:52] <fishhead> trit yeah for kernel
[08:52] <bigfoot2> if the dvd-player can not play VCDs, what should i do?
[08:52] <mustard5> omer, what speed did you burn it at?
[08:52] <signius> as long as you got all the relevant libs installed for the program it will run
[08:52] <r0d> nalioth, obvioulsy i checked
[08:52] <r0d> didnt find
[08:52] <nalioth> bigfoot2: encode it as mpeg2 and author it as dvd-video
[08:52] <mustard5> nite fishhead
[08:52] <omer> I put it on auto. I think it choose 48X. I kow it not good.
[08:52] <calamari> is there any way to divide up my bandwidth between apps, say for example so that my streaming mp3 won't skip when I download a file in the browser?
[08:53] <fishhead> cala yeah
[08:53] <Jalexster> So, can anyone help me with my SSH problem?
[08:53] <mustard5> omer, choose the lowest speed and burn again
[08:53] <fishhead> cala qos
[08:53] <mustard5> omer, 4 times
[08:53] <fishhead> don't ask me I never got to playing with it
[08:53] <nalioth> calamari: trickle
[08:53] <bigfoot2> nalioth, what words should i give google for that?
[08:53] <omer> It ok that the MD5SUM is not the same like the one in the site?
[08:53] <jozephus> thanks every1 - at the moment i'm running ubuntu live
[08:53] <tritium> no, omer
[08:53] <mustard5> omer no
[08:54] <nalioth> bigfoot2: similar ones to the ones you used before
[08:54] <calamari> fishhead, nalioth: thanks :)
[08:54] <mustard5> omer that is not ok
[08:54] <jozephus> but i'll now install it !!!
[08:54] <FlannelKing> Jalexster, its best to just ask your question
[08:54] <r0d> bob2 you up bro?
[08:54] <jozephus> :P
[08:54] <mevvis> hi
[08:54] <Jalexster> I did ask my question
[08:54] <Jalexster> I'll ask it again if you want
[08:54] <omer> I download two CD and they boat have diffrent MD5SUM from the site, and from each other
[08:55] <mustard5> omer, that sounds like a bad download
[08:55] <nalioth> omer: does your iso image match md5s with the server?
[08:55] <FlannelKing> Jalexster ah, found it.  personally I dont know.
[08:55] <tritium> omer, the md5sum needs to match.  That's why they're provided in the first place
[08:55] <melvztechie> guys how can i run SNMP in my box?
[08:55] <Jalexster> That's why I prefer BitTorrent, because it does hash-checking on the fly while downloading pieces of the file.
[08:55] <omer> I compare with the file that was on the server.
[08:55] <nalioth> melvztechie: i dont see why not
[08:56] <nalioth> omer: does your iso image on your computer match md5s with the server?
[08:56] <FlannelKing> actually, Jalexster, I don't think you should have to edit something on the server to connect to it
[08:56] <FlannelKing> Jalexster, Your problem must be with your ibook then
[08:56] <melvztechie> nalioth: trying to install mrtg? for monitoring or any easier way?
[08:56] <Jalexster> Nope
[08:56] <tritium> good night, ubuntites
[08:56] <mustard5> nite tritium
[08:56] <Jalexster> Because the iBook can SSH into itself with no problems
[08:56] <Ekibyougami> night
[08:56] <nalioth> melvztechie: i have no idea what that is
[08:57] <Jalexster> Just like the Ubuntu box can SSH into itself with no problem
[08:57] <FlannelKing> Jalexster, What IP you using? localhost?
[08:57] <FlannelKing> Jalexster, both on same intranet?
[08:57] <nalioth> Jalexster: did you have an actual question?
[08:57] <Jalexster> No. I use it's network IP
[08:57] <Jalexster> Yeah
[08:57] <omer> No, the file on the server have MD5SUM difrent from the one the k3b show me.
[08:58] <indypende> HOW CAN I abilitate the GDM face browser?
[08:58] <alekz> why the idea to "disable" root ?
[08:58] <nalioth> omer: then you have a bad download, start a torrent file that matches your iso and it will correct the bad spots
[08:58] <mustard5> indypende, 'abilitate'?
[08:58] <indypende> "have"
[08:58] <nalioth> alekz: to keep you from "ooops, OH CRAP" with one press of <enter>
[08:58] <Jalexster> iBook is at <IP_ADDRESS>, Ubuntu box is at <IP_ADDRESS>. I can ssh <IP_ADDRESS> from the iBook (SSH into itself), and ssh <IP_ADDRESS> from the Ubuntu box (SSH into itself), but I can't ssh <IP_ADDRESS> from the iBook.
[08:58] <indypende> mustard5, "have"
[08:59] <mustard5> ok
[08:59] <Jalexster> I was told the problem could be with my with hosts.allow file on the Ubuntu box
[08:59] <alekz> lol
[08:59] <omer> Just download a torrent file?
[08:59] <FlannelKing> indypende, system > administration > login screen setup
[08:59] <alekz> thanks nalioth
[08:59] <nalioth> omer: download the .torrent that matches the iso you've got
[08:59] <melvztechie> is there a GUI SNMP configuration package in ubuntu?
[08:59] <indypende> FlannelKing, mustard5 OK!
[08:59] <indypende> FlannelKing, mustard5 now?
[08:59] <FlannelKing> indypende, it's in the security tab ('show face browser')
[08:59] <nalioth> Jalexster: if you've messed with the hosts file(s) you are away over the heads of most of us
[09:00] <Jalexster> I haven't touched them
[09:00] <indypende> FlannelKing, i've already tried!
[09:00] <indypende> FlannelKing, don't work!
[09:00] <FlannelKing> Jalexster, you shouldn't be required to change anything on the server, that goes against the idea of SSH
[09:00] <nalioth> FlannelKing: can you ping the other boxen?
[09:00] <benplaut> indypende: try a different theme... sometimes a theme doesn't support face browsing
[09:00] <Jalexster> I know
[09:00] <r0d> tcpwrappers isnt hard
[09:00] <indypende> ben_d, oh
[09:00] <indypende> benplaut, oh
[09:00] <im_addicted19> hi
[09:00] <im_addicted19> hello
[09:00] <im_addicted19> ther
[09:01] <mustard5> benplaut, good thinking :)
[09:01] <FlannelKing> indypende, I think you'll need to use 'happy gnome with browser'
[09:01] <indypende> benplaut, thx
[09:01] <indypende> ok
[09:01] <omer> But there is option to change the install from CD to the net?
[09:01] <FlannelKing> nalioth, why are you asking me?
[09:01] <Jalexster> Anyway, thanks for the help
[09:01] <nalioth> FlannelKing: because it's time for me to go to sleep
[09:02] <im_addicted19> hello
[09:02] <im_addicted19> hello
[09:02] <indypende> FlannelKing, i don't like it!
[09:02] <nalioth> im_addicted19: may we help you with something?
[09:02] <im_addicted19> yeah'
[09:02] <indypende> FlannelKing, where i can find one about ubuntu or "UBUNTED"?
[09:02] <FlannelKing> indypende, that appears to be the only default one with a face browser
[09:02] <im_addicted19> i am a firstimer in ubuntu
[09:02] <mustard5> im_addicted19, welcome...whats your question?
[09:03] <im_addicted19> can u teach me how to connect to the other chater
[09:03] <omer> Thanks nalioth.
[09:03] <nalioth> im_addicted19: you've accomplished that here
[09:03] <im_addicted19> i want to one on one
[09:03] <nalioth> omer: make sure you have your iso image in your torrent download directory
[09:03] <im_addicted19> how to chat one on one???
[09:03] <im_addicted19> nalioth??
[09:03] <nalioth> im_addicted19: you type /msg USERNAME
[09:04] <dell500> how do you  stop the tarring of something really big?
[09:04] <im_addicted19> ok ill try
[09:04] <topyli> im_addicted19: depends on your client. but with all clients you can use /msg and /query
[09:04] <mustard5> dell500, ctrl +c
[09:04] <nalioth> dell500: ctrl-c usually stops all processes
[09:04] <nalioth> dell500: have you looked at that cli URL ?
[09:04] <dell500> sweet, thanks
[09:04] <dell500> ya i have
[09:04] <im_addicted19> can you give me an example??
[09:04] <topyli> im_addicted19: doesn't mean i want to be /queried :)
[09:04] <im_addicted19> nalioh
[09:04] <maxmouse> im trying to compile vmware modules and i keep getting this error message 'gcc-3.4: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory'  where can i get this file from?
[09:04] <dell500> the dir was messed up, so no more gaim settings :(
[09:04] <learn25> HELP! How can i map my /var/ftp directory to a particular user under proftpd?
[09:05] <nalioth> im_addicted19: type /msg USERNAME blah blah blah blah
[09:05] <im_addicted19> topyli can you give me an example?
[09:05] <alekz> can someone recommend me a nice firewall ?
[09:05] <mustard5> alekz, firestarter
[09:05] <nalioth> alekz: a nice frontend is firestarter
[09:05] <alekz> thanks, does it have grapahical interface ?
[09:05] <topyli> im_addicted19: well, if i wanted to talk to you, i would do "/query im_addicted19" (without the quotes)
[09:05] <mustard5> ye
[09:05] <alekz> nice :)
[09:06] <mustard5> roger nalioth
[09:06] <learn25> HELP! How can i map my /var/ftp directory to a particular user under proftpd?
[09:06] <r0d> drrrrr
[09:06] <nalioth> learn25: please dont repeat
[09:09] <FlannelKing> indypende, I suggest you try searching here: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150
[09:09] <alekz> now that i've downloaded firestarter in wich menu can i find it ?
[09:10] <nalioth> alekz: dont worry about menus, type alt-f2 and type it in
[09:10] <nalioth> hit alt-f2, even
[09:10] <alekz> thanks :)
[09:10] <jozephus> k bye every1 c ya all in a couple of hours - going to install ubuntu now !     :)
[09:10] <Puffball> does anyone know of a way to graphically modify the partiton tables via the Ubuntu 5.04 live CD?
[09:10] <nalioth> Puffball: windows partitions?
[09:11] <mustard5> cya jozephus
[09:11] <Puffball> yeah.
[09:11] <alekz> nalioth, sudo firestarter ?
[09:11] <nalioth> Puffball: use synaptic to install qtparted
[09:11] <nalioth> alekz: gksudo firestarter
[09:11] <alekz> thanks
[09:11] <Puffball> okay/
[09:11] <Orborde> So I compiled something from source, just for the sheer joy of it, and then make install'd it. Problem: I won't be able to uninstall in Synaptic. Help?
[09:11] <mustard5> what's the difference between sudo, gksudo and visudo?
[09:11] <nalioth> Orborde: next time instead of "make install" use checkinstall
[09:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Orborde about checkinstall
[09:11] <Orborde> mustard5: gksudo pops up a nice little display box thiny
[09:12] <syn-ack> Hey kids
[09:12] <aftertaf> mustard5:  visudo shows who has what sudo rights
[09:12] <kler> Anyone tried VNC or freenx on the AMD64-distribution?
[09:12] <Orborde> nalioth: Is there a make remove or something somewhere?
[09:12] <mustard5> thanks guys
[09:12] <nalioth> mustard5: you know what sudo is, gksudo is sudo for gtk apps and visudo is a sudoers editor
[09:12] <aftertaf> nalioth:  with automake & autoconf, doesnt it create a make uninstall for you?
[09:12] <mustard5> ah ...a sudoers editer cool
[09:12] <nalioth> Orborde: if you've just compiled it, you may find a "make uninstall" in the build dir
[09:12] <mustard5> I must try that
[09:13] <nalioth> aftertaf: thats up to the source writers
[09:13] <Puffball> nalioth: I can
[09:13] <Puffball> nalioth: I can't find qtparted via Synaptic
[09:13] <nalioth> !info qtparted
[09:13] <ubotu> qtparted: (A parted frontend using QT), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.4-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 195 kB, Installed size: 712 kB
[09:13] <nalioth> Puffball: enable universe in synaptic and install it
[09:13] <Puffball> okay.
[09:14] <Bieleke> hi all
[09:14] <im_addicted19> hello
[09:14] <Bieleke> first off al i want to say congrats to the ubuntu community
[09:14] <Orborde> nalioth: Ah, there is a "make uninstall" target. hurray!
[09:14] <Bieleke> flawless install
[09:14] <syn-ack> hrm
[09:14] <im_addicted19> hi ther
[09:14] <im_addicted19> there
[09:15] <pitti> Bieleke: nice to hear :-)
[09:15] <nalioth> Orborde: great! use checkinstall instead of 'make install' in the future, it makes personal debs just for you
[09:15] <syn-ack> I would rather use dpkg -b instead of checkinstall. :P
[09:15] <Orborde> nalioth: That's bloody genius. or something.
[09:15] <aftertaf> nalioth:  can you create debs that way from tarballs then distribute them or use them on another pc?
[09:15] <Orborde> syn-ack: Why?
[09:16] <nalioth> aftertaf: not with checkinstall
[09:16] <syn-ack> Orborde: I just prefer to build all my debs by hand
[09:16] <Bieleke> ok... so installing mp3 support is just a matter of apt-get gstreamer0.8-mad right ?
[09:16] <pitti> Bieleke: yes
[09:16] <aftertaf> nalioth:  ok, but with dpkg?
[09:16] <nalioth> aftertaf: yes with dpkg or apt-get
[09:17] <nalioth> Bieleke: you need to enable universe and multiverse, but yes thats the way
[09:17] <dave> just curious if anyone has problems with 3DScreensavers not working or installed?  Are they installed in the default installation?
[09:17] <Orborde> Those whirling masses of text that make creates are scary even to me, a power user.
[09:17] <im_addicted19> query thread
[09:17] <aftertaf> Orborde:  read it and weep :)
[09:18] <Bieleke> mmmm if i do su and then my user password it says authentication failed
[09:18] <Bieleke> any ideas ?
[09:18] <Orborde> aftertaf: Or ignore it unless it spews an error and dies.
[09:18] <aftertaf> i love compling and watching 2 things..... 1, the text going zoooooom, 2, the cpu temp doubling :)
[09:18] <Ekibyougami> lol
[09:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Bieleke about root
[09:18] <Orborde> aftertaf: Maybe minimize the terminal and watch something brain-destroying on TV.
[09:18] <r0d> aftertaf, then you'd love gentoo. thats all you do.
[09:18] <aftertaf> or crank up the mule for some futurama fun
[09:18] <Bieleke> nalioth, thnx dude
[09:18] <Ekibyougami> i like to watch the terminal and see if any unintentional ascii art shows up
[09:18] <syn-ack> aftertaf: If you like that so much, run Gentoo, then you will soon get tired of it
[09:19] <aftertaf> r0d:  i'm not that [sick|hardcore]
[09:19] <r0d> lol syn-ack  which is why im not on ubuntu because of that
[09:19] <kresten> Does anyone know where to find avi/divx decoders and a java package?
[09:19] <r0d> aftertaf, nothing about being hardcore. its more of boring bro
[09:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kresten about javadeb
[09:19] <syn-ack> r0d: because you got tired of compiling?
[09:19] <aftertaf> kresten:  universe+multiverse
[09:19] <r0d> good learning distrol though
[09:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kresten about w32deb
[09:19] <aftertaf> r0d:]
[09:20] <nalioth> aftertaf: neither of those things are available there
[09:20] <kresten> tnx
[09:20] <Orborde> Ekibyougami: I have alias dance='sudo cat /dev/input/event0' for when I have the urge.
[09:20] <dell500> can Azureus be had through apt-get with a certain dependancy?
[09:20] <r0d> syn-ack, because of the wait of compiling everything
[09:20] <Ekibyougami> lol
[09:20] <aftertaf> nalioth:  really? i stand corrected...... wow i thought they were
[09:20] <cheemp> compiling  kernel is long
[09:20] <nalioth> aftertaf: they've been removed for legal reasons (at least sun java has been)
[09:20] <peej> amazed that sound just works with hoary on this laptop I have here. but x.org did not - no display showing. gdm and xscreensaver are running according to pstree. no EE in /var/log/X.org.0.log or /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[09:20] <syn-ack> r0d:  Then I think you may want to rephrase that statement, since you compile very little if anything at all
[09:21] <PatrikJohansson> well, my wlan finally works, but after a little time it disconnects and i cant use it... what can i do to restart all the network services so that i can use it again??
[09:21] <Ekibyougami> i saw a shirt yesterday i want to get
[09:21] <dave> Are the 3DScreensavers installed in Ubuntu in the default install?
[09:21] <syn-ack> on Ubuntu, anyway
[09:21] <syn-ack> dave: Yes
[09:21] <Orborde> nalioth: Um.... it failed to install the package. It set the package's architecture to x86_64 and then whined that I was using amd64.
[09:21] <aftertaf> peej:  does startx give ANY error?
[09:21] <Ekibyougami> it says "apt-get alife"
[09:21] <r0d> syn-ack,  no. i compile on ubuntu the programs i want.
[09:21] <aftertaf> lool Ekibyougami
[09:21] <r0d> syn-ack, ubuntu doesnt keep up w/ all the security tools....
[09:21] <alekz> how can i activate sshd server ?
[09:21] <nalioth> Orborde: go back and run checkinstall again and set the arch name to what you want
[09:21] <dave> syn-ack - cheers.  Mine arent' working.  Is there a trick to getting them working?
[09:22] <syn-ack> r0d: You have offically confused me.
[09:22] <Orborde> nalioth: Except, oddly, I can use the application, which is way weird.
[09:22] <r0d> ok.sorry to hear that
[09:22] <syn-ack> dave: Does you 3d card driver work?
[09:22] <nalioth> Orborde: you can also put a lot of these settings in a .checkinstallrc
[09:22] <syn-ack> dave: have you even installed it?
[09:22] <aftertaf> alekz:  have you installed it? does it start?
[09:23] <dave> Yes.  I have a 3D card with 356MB ram.  It should work.  I don't know if it works in ubuntu.
[09:23] <nalioth> Orborde: yes, it's made, but dpkg is hollering cuz the 'i's aren't dotted
[09:23] <alekz> aftertaf, i have it installed, but i dont know how to start it
[09:23] <dave> I'm running Ubuntu now - yes.
[09:23] <Orborde> nalioth: Okay, so run checkinstall with whatever args the man pages dictate?
[09:23] <syn-ack> dave:  Thats not what I asked. I asked if you installed the _driver_
[09:23] <nalioth> Orborde: change the arch at the 10 options screen (and in your ~/.checkinstallrc to save future trouble)
[09:23] <Ekibyougami> should i be offended that someone said the game snake origionated on old cell phones?
[09:23] <aftertaf> alekz:  sudo /etc/init.d ssh start   < will start the server if not already dstarted
[09:23] <dave> Probably not... what is the package for the driver.  I'll check.
[09:23] <syn-ack> dave: which card do you have? What make and model?
[09:24] <Ekibyougami> or should i just let them play on my commodore64? =x
[09:24] <alekz> aftertaf, alekz@ubuntu:~/eggdrop1.6.17$ sudo /etc/init.d ssh start
[09:24] <alekz> sudo: /etc/init.d: command not found
[09:24] <nalioth> Orborde: i only run it with --del-docs=yes   which removes some (i consider) junk
[09:24] <nalioth> alekz: init.d is not a command
[09:24] <dave> Just checking now... won't be a sec.
[09:24] <Orborde> nalioth: How do I create a .checkinstallrc ?
[09:24] <alekz> nalioth, ok should i edit it ?
[09:24] <syn-ack> snake came from Qbasic... it was called nibbles.
[09:24] <peej> aftertaf : how do I stop the current server running ? I tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop but complains still have server active on :0
[09:25] <nalioth> Orborde: write one
[09:25] <mustard5> aftertaf, , sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start?
[09:25] <Orborde> nalioth: Can you be more specific? What exactly do I put in it?
[09:25] <aftertaf> peej:  sudo killall xorg
[09:25] <peej> aftertaf : I am not actually familiar with gnome
[09:25] <nalioth> Orborde: use the one at /etc/checkinstallrc for a template
[09:25] <PatrikJohansson> how do i restart all network services????
[09:26] <dave> SYN-ACK - my Video Card is a RV280 Radeon 9200 PRO from ATI technologies.
[09:26] <Orborde> nalioth: Why don't I just change /etc/checkinstall itself?
[09:26] <syn-ack> Have fun trying to get those drivers to work
[09:26] <syn-ack> dave: one sec
[09:26] <nalioth> Orborde: because it's impolite and un-*nix like
[09:27] <Orborde> nalioth: But it's my machine....
[09:27] <peej> aftertaf : I am on a live cd. Hasn't killed off all the gnome processess.  Oh No!!!
[09:27] <nalioth> Orborde: if you are the only user on your box, go ahead. keep in mind that if you start messing with files that belong to the system, you get what you get
[09:27] <GoRoDeK> hi, is there any package that allows to extend your current X/Desktop to another X/Desktop on a different system (should be plattform independent win/lnx). http://www.maxivista.com/ is offering such a software, but win only ;(
[09:27] <syn-ack> dave: ATI drivers suck. Even more so on Linux
[09:27] <mllr> Orborde: Yeah, not a good idea.
[09:28] <syn-ack> dave: Im looking for some docs for it right now.
[09:28] <nalioth> Orborde: if it's in your $HOMEDIR, it makes it easy to transport to another box (just move your $HOMEDIR)
[09:28] <Bateau_> how to install KDE?
[09:28] <Orborde> mllr: But why, exactly?
[09:28] <dave> cheers.
[09:28] <peej> operation not permitted. How do I get root in live cd?
[09:28] <Jeromee> is there an Ubuntu-Server channel?
[09:28] <Orborde> nalioth: But the change I'm making is the default compile-to architecture.
[09:28] <nalioth> Orborde: rather then rooting thru system space looking for all of your modeified files
[09:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> HOW to i change the screensaver login dialog back to the hoary ubuntu logo?
[09:28] <nalioth> Orborde: it's your box.
[09:28] <topyli> Bateau_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:28] <Orborde> nalioth: Okay, good point, I guess. I'll change BOTH.
[09:29] <tga> Bateau_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <Bateau_> oki, thanks:D
[09:30] <syn-ack> You gotta be shittin' me... why isnt the ATI-HOWTO with the nVidia HOWTO?
[09:30] <egonw> hi all, I have a boot problem: when I start in 'normal' mode, my splash hangs at 'Loading modules'... but when running the 'recovery' mode it boots without problem... anyone with comments or suggestions on how to debug this problem?
[09:30] <Orborde> nalioth: Just to dicker around with it, I uninstalled it via apt-get. And now I can't get it to install again. Sad face.
[09:30] <bob2> r0d: ?
[09:31] <bob2> jsgotangco: no idea, jdub would be the one to talk to
[09:31] <syn-ack> Ah. here it is
[09:31] <kooli>  < do you see ?
[09:31] <dave> syn-ack: if you have a URL I'll have a look.
[09:31] <syn-ack> dave: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:31] <dave> cool... thanks... brb
[09:31] <kooli>  < do you see ?
[09:31] <kooli> plz
[09:31] <jsgotangco> bob2, thanks :)
[09:31] <peej> how do I stop x from a live cd?
[09:31] <Orborde> nalioth: Oh, j/k. I figured it out.
[09:31] <alekz> anyone knows how change the welcome message when someone join to my box using ssh ?
[09:31] <syn-ack> bob2: ltns, hows it?
[09:32] <bob2> syn-ack: very busy
[09:32] <topyli> syn-ack: it's written by a nvidia user i guess, and you haven't written the ATI part yet :)
[09:32] <peej> oooh. backspace zap did something
[09:32] <Orborde> peej: Control+Alt+F1 to get to console, then sudo killall xorg
[09:32] <kooli>  < do you see my  ?
[09:32] <r0d> bob2,  qt installed on ubuntu by default?
[09:32] <bob2> r0d: no
[09:32] <Orborde> alekz: /etc/motd
[09:32] <alekz> thanks Orborde
[09:32] <nalioth> alekz: change /etc/motd
[09:32] <r0d> bob2, im running amor thats kde. do you know how its working?
[09:32] <kooli>  < do you see my  ?
[09:32] <nalioth> kooli: yes we see it
[09:32] <kooli> ok thx :)
[09:32] <peej> the gnome start sound started. but I now have a whited out screen. Oh dear.
[09:33] <r0d> bob2,  havent seen a port for gnome
[09:33] <syn-ack> bob2: Got the new Breezy Final in the mail today, and Im wondering why in the hell you even thought of shipping it since it cost y'all 5.00 euro. :p
[09:33] <bob2> r0d: ?
[09:33] <syn-ack> I feel bad that I didnt just download it again. :P
[09:33] <bob2> syn-ack: heh
[09:33] <bob2> syn-ack: sharing of the love and such
[09:33] <peej> I do not have an xorg process when I do a ps aux
[09:33] <Ekibyougami> physical media = halloween for n00bs
[09:34] <peej> but oddly, I have gnome. This is hoary btw.
[09:34] <syn-ack> peej: ps aux | grep x
[09:34] <bob2> peej: and?
[09:34] <r0d> bob2,  how do kde programs run on gnome?
[09:34] <bob2> peej: that just means X is not running
[09:34] <bob2> r0d: they just run
[09:34] <bob2> r0d: they don't care what else is running around them
[09:34] <r0d> lol sounds like a windows answer
[09:34] <r0d> i c. thx
[09:34] <bob2> generally
[09:35] <chou> hi
[09:35] <bob2> some stuff specifically depends on other programs to be running
[09:35] <chou> anyone
[09:35] <bob2> e.g. a lot of gnome programs want gconfd to be running
[09:35] <bob2>  Note that AMOR will only work with some window managers. Both KWin (the
[09:35] <bob2>  KDE window manager) and Metacity (a GTK2 window manager) are supported.
[09:35] <syn-ack> r0d: as long as the QT shared libs are installed, nothing else matters
[09:35] <peej> syn-ack : get things like x-session-manager, gnome-smproxy and xscreensaver and other stuff. no x though
[09:35] <syn-ack> Wierd
[09:36] <peej> bob2: can xcreensaver run without x?
[09:36] <alekz> wich packages should i install to compile ? i have this errors: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:36] <syn-ack> why is all that running without x11?
[09:36] <bob2> peej: you're confused about this because you're confused about X
[09:36] <nalioth> alekz: "build-essential"
[09:36] <bob2> alekz: install build-essential
[09:36] <alekz> gracias
[09:36] <bob2> peej: X doesn't care if the clients are running on the machine with the screen
[09:36] <alekz> * thanks
[09:37] <orac7000> i suppose i am not the first to ask this, but, i installed breezy to /dev/hde1 and I have read that breezy re-orders partition names, and now i get dropped to busybox. What command line params do I have to pass to grub to fix this please!
[09:37] <bob2> peej: so xscreensaver can run on a machine without an X server
[09:37] <syn-ack> peej: startx and tell me what happens
[09:37] <syn-ack> bob2: its rare to see it, since it usually gets killed when x exits
[09:37] <syn-ack> Ive never seen it atleast
[09:38] <Logikal`> ..
[09:39] <syn-ack> AFAIK, Gnome kills it, when X exits
[09:40] <alekz> how can i install tcl/tk packages ?
[09:40] <melvztechie> bob2: hello is there a gui snmp package in ubuntu?
[09:40] <bob2> melvztechie: what would that do?
[09:40] <bob2> alekz: what are you trying to do?
[09:40] <mahangu> anybody got speech recognition working on linux?
[09:40] <bob2> alekz: if the answer includes the word "eggdrop", you have lost
[09:41] <melvztechie> bob2: i just though if theres a gui configuration?
[09:41] <alekz> why bob2  ?
[09:41] <bob2> alekz: because you're wasting your time.  just install the eggdrop package.
[09:41] <bob2> melvztechie: I doubt it
[09:41] <syn-ack> melvztechie: why would it matter? What is it that you want to do? come on, you can tell us.
[09:41] <alekz> lol ok bob2 thanks :)
[09:41] <alekz> bob2, eggdrop is already the newest version.
[09:41] <melvztechie> bob2,syn-ack: i just want to install MRTG using SNMP in *box? is it possible?
[09:42] <alekz> bob2, where can i find that eggdrop ?
[09:42] <peej> OK, what I am going to do is go back into xp, see what display resolution that uses and force it in the live install display resolution options. maybe that will work.
[09:42] <bob2> alekz: dpkg -L eggdrop
[09:42] <bob2> melvztechie: MRTG is pretty easy to get going, yeah
[09:42] <alekz> thanks bob2
[09:42] <syn-ack> melvztechie: yeah, what bob said
[09:42] <mahangu> how can i increase my display reso past 1024x? is there a chance i can damage my monitor?
[09:42] <bob2> melvztechie: the home page links to some good docs
[09:42] <bob2> mahangu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto, not unless it's old
[09:43] <syn-ack> sorry, for the slow responses... Im a little stonded on prescription drugs
[09:43] <melvztechie> bob2: okey, am just having problems configuring SNMP, okey will look in the site;) thanks
[09:43] <mahangu> bob2, thinkpad t42 - should be alright?
[09:43] <alekz> bob2, but there's another problem, my server gives ssh service to some users, so one of them wants to run an eggdrop, what can i do ?
[09:43] <bob2> mahangu: it should have detected it right to begin with
[09:43] <bob2> alekz: what?
[09:44] <alekz> bob2, that other users wants t set up an eggdrop, how can they install it in their /home/* dir ?
[09:45] <bob2> alekz: why would they do that?
[09:45] <bob2> alekz: and yes, they can put whatever they want in their home directory
[09:45] <nalioth> alekz: let THEM run it
[09:45] <alekz> nalioth, how can i do that ?
[09:45] <mahangu> bob2, it did, but only gives me 1024
[09:46] <mahangu> is that the most my card can handle?
[09:46] <bob2> mahangu: no idea
[09:46] <mahangu> it's an ATI Radeon 7000
[09:46] <mahangu> which _should_ be able to do more
[09:46] <bob2> mahangu: if your manual says otherwise, file a bug
[09:46] <nalioth> alekz: if they are paying for ssh access, let them set it up (unless they are paying you extra)
[09:46] <fdelacruz> hi guys, any free or crack vmware
[09:46] <bob2> it almost certainly has nothing to do with your video card
[09:46] <mahangu> oh hehe
[09:46] <mahangu> i was just gonna explain why we dont talk about crackware in here
[09:46] <mahangu> bob2, ill check my manual, thanks
[09:47] <alekz> nalioth, well yes they pay for it, but i want to give them the best service, how can i install tcl/tk ?
[09:47] <nalioth> wow bob2 ya didnt even let the door swing shut on 'im
[09:47] <nalioth> alekz: if the eggdrop pkg is on there, that's all they should need
[09:47] <bob2> alekz: sudo apt-get install tcl8.4
[09:47] <mahangu> bob2, can i muck around with xorg.conf as long as i back it up? i mean i cant screw up the lcd right?
[09:48] <mahangu> sorry for asking again, a bit jittery, this thing isn't mine
[09:48] <mahangu> work lapp
[09:48] <bob2> mahangu: afaik, that is correct
[09:48] <alekz> nalioth, i cant, i try to run eggdrop and i get this error:  Can't load modules dns: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:48] <alekz> tcl8.4 is already the newest version.
[09:48] <alekz> :(
[09:48] <bob2> things like radeontool *can* physically break hardware, tho, but X is safe
[09:48] <mahangu> after i edit i hae to restart gdm?
[09:48] <bob2> alekz: there you go
[09:48] <bob2> mahangu: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:48] <esc_ape> hello. how do you determine where your cd player is?
[09:48] <mahangu> boabsta, thanks
[09:49] <alekz> bob2, look: tcl8.4 is already the newest version.
[09:49] <bob2> alekz: indeed, you have tcl installed
[09:49] <bob2> alekz: I don't understand what you're asking
[09:49] <alekz> bob2, because is not working :)
[09:50] <bob2> alekz: too vague
[09:50] <alekz> bob2, Tcl cannot be found on this system.
[09:50] <alekz> bob2, what can i do ?
[09:50] <bob2> alekz: please tell me you're nto compiling eggdrop
[09:50] <bob2> please please please
[09:50] <bob2> tcl8.4-dev - Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - development files
[09:51] <alekz> bob2, i do, but u dont get my problem :(
[09:51] <peej> oh bummer. 1280x1024@75 worked in Suse, fails in hoary.
[09:51] <bob2> alekz: so: why on earth are you compiling it at all?
[09:51] <mahangu> bob2, sorry, my bad - native screen reso is 1024 only, changing it would have prolly messed up badly
[09:51] <mahangu> thanks again
[09:51] <bob2> alekz: if you insist on compiling it, I told you what package to install to fix that error
[09:51] <bob2> mahangu: ah
[09:52] <bob2> mahangu: some of the other t4*s are 1400x1050 or something, easy mistake to make
[09:52] <alekz> bob2, i installed using apt-get install eggdrop but still not working look: Can't load modules channels: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:52] <mahangu> bob2, yeah the new t43 is sweet
[09:52] <mahangu> thanks mate, bbl
[09:52] <mahangu> reading Aeneid :S
[09:53] <esc_ape> how do you determine the location of your cd player?
[09:53] <Ekibyougami> goodnight
[09:53] <bob2> esc_ape: ls -l /dev/cdrom. usually
[09:53] <peej> oh, yeah, and the problem with gnome still running despite my /etc/init.d/gdm stop was because I didn't stick a sudo in front. I was unfamiliar with how root stuff is done on a live cd a few minutes ago :-)
[09:53] <bob2> ah
[09:53] <dell500> anyone know how to get dual monitors to work?
[09:53] <alekz> bob2, now with tcl8.4-dev is working thanks bro :)
[09:53] <bob2> alekz: install tcl8.4-dev
[09:53] <nalioth> alekz: install tcl8.4-dev
[09:54] <orac7000> HELP, how do i fix my breezy install that has lost /dev/hde1?
[09:54] <bradd> my 'vncserver' is giving me a 'font directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ not found - ignoring' but in that driectory theres a file called 'something.alias'.. any ideas how to fix this?
[09:56] <peej> ok, so how do I reconfigure x so I can play around with the options and displays?
[09:56] <nalioth> peej: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:56] <dell500> anyone know how to get dual monitors to work?
[09:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:57] <peej> nalioth: not XF86Config?
[09:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> peej ubuntu uses x.org
[09:57] <nalioth> peej: not unless you are running warty warthog
[09:57] <peej> nalioth: I am on a live cd
[09:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> as do many distros now.
[09:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> peej is it hoary or breezy?
[09:57] <peej> hoary hedgehog
[09:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> peej xorg.conf
[09:57] <esc_ape> bob2: I get this: root@ubuntu:~# ls -l /dev/cdrom
[09:57] <esc_ape> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-10-20 02:28 /dev/cdrom -> hdb
[09:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> peej running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is easier.
[09:58] <aitiba69> koin #caos
[09:58] <peej> OK,  I definitely have x.org. just that an apropos x | grep conf turned up XF86Config
[09:58] <peej> which is actually for XFree86 like you say.
[09:59] <tga> dell500, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[10:01] <mahangu> !DualMonitors
[10:01] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, mahangu
[10:01] <mahangu> !DualMonitor
[10:01] <ubotu> mahangu: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:01] <mahangu> ah bummer
[10:03] <warreng> so i just installed ubuntu... so far, i love it... one thing that bugs me is it seems like the fonts aren't quite right... like web pages just don't look nearly as good as in windows (both using firefox).... any suggestions?
[10:04] <mahangu> warreng, what do you mean "nearly as good". you have to be more specific
[10:04] <Ares^>  i have a question. What do i need to install if i get <error: stdio.h: No such file or directory> this kind of error ? (i have a 5.10 ubuntu release)
[10:05] <warreng> hard to describe... maybe it's anti-aliasing.. maybe windows does it better?
[10:05] <warreng> even the shapes of the fonts aren't right though... like where's verdana?
[10:05] <Enlite> how do i make ubuntu NOT boot into the X logon screen?
[10:05] <mahangu> warreng, you need to get windows fonts
[10:05] <mahangu> apt-cache search for it
[10:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Enlite about bum
[10:06] <mahangu> warreng, to me though pages look far better on linux than windows
[10:06] <neuro|laptop> the helvetica-like font is gorgeous
[10:06] <neuro|laptop> freeserif?
[10:07] <Almindor> where are kernel-headers put normaly?
[10:07] <warreng> i dunno what it is... but like http://www.google.com/reader/lens/ just looks bad
[10:07] <warreng> i really think it has to do with anti-aliasing
[10:07] <Ares^>  i have a question. What do i need to install if i get <error: stdio.h: No such file or directory> this kind of error ? (i have a 5.10 ubuntu release)
[10:07] <Madpilot> neuro|laptop: the "Free" fonts are great - FreeSerif, FreeSans, FreeMono - I've got Opera set up to use them instead of the defaults
[10:08] <neuro|laptop> freesans, that was it
[10:08] <Orborde> I'm just jumping in to announce that, miraculously, mplayer's mozilla plugin is correctly handling a video stream!
[10:08] <Antioch_> how does once install a new splash image for gnome?
[10:08] <Antioch_> one*
[10:08] <mustard5> Orborde, congrats :)
[10:09] <Orborde> Oh, crap. false alarm :(
[10:09] <mustard5> hehe
[10:09] <Madpilot> warreng: that page looks fine to me, in both FF and Opera...
[10:10] <da_bon_bon> Antioch: so many people are looking for answer to the same question :)
[10:10] <warreng> the free* fonts are way better
[10:10] <Antioch_> da_bon_bon, I suppose Im lucky_
[10:10] <warreng> how do i turn off anti-aliasing?
[10:10] <warreng> at least for firefox?
[10:12] <Madpilot> warreng: turning *off* antialiasing will make your fonts jaggy and ugly, not better
[10:12] <warreng> they're WAY too soft in firefox... i have a crisp laptop screen and it looks like crap
[10:12] <warreng> it's really firefox that isn't doing it right... everything else system wide is fine
[10:13] <da_bon_bon> Antioch: why so ?
[10:13] <warreng> ahh "subpixel smoothing" option in font preferences
[10:16] <Bateau_> where can i find repository list for Breezy ?
[10:16] <Ares^> anyone knows how to install glibc on ubuntu ? apt-get install glibc doesnt work ...
[10:16] <Madpilot> !tell Bateau_ about repos
[10:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Bateau_ about sources
[10:17] <Ares^> cause i need to install the C libraries and cant find a good apt-get package
[10:17] <Bateau_> yes yes thanks Madpilot :D
[10:18] <warreng> is it strange that rhythmbox wouldn't play mp3's for me? and i had to download xmms?
[10:18] <ajmitch_> Ares^: you'll already have libc6 installed - it's a critical part of the system
[10:18] <Ares^> ajmitch_,  then how come i cant compile C files ?
[10:18] <nalioth> Ares^: in your terminal, type "apt-cache search glibc" and fine the one with -dev at the end
[10:18] <ajmitch_> Ares^: because you don't have the headers & compiler, perhaps?
[10:18] <ajmitch_> Ares^: apt-get install build-essential
[10:18] <Bateau_> apt-get install build-essentials ?
[10:18] <Ares^> i have a compiler got gcc 4.00
[10:19] <Ares^> okie going to try the essentials
[10:20] <warreng> i am AMAZED at how far along open source stuff has come :)
[10:20] <nalioth> warreng: amazing isnt it?
[10:21] <Ares^> same error after install build essential...
[10:22] <Ares^> found this on apt-cache search glibc
[10:22] <Ares^> libc6 - GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data
[10:22] <Ares^> linux-kernel-headers - Linux Kernel Headers for development
[10:22] <nalioth> Ares^: you need the -dev libraries to mact your libc6
[10:22] <Ares^> but it says both are installed
[10:23] <Ares^> nalioth, apt-get install libc6-dev
[10:23] <Ares^> Reading package lists... Done
[10:23] <Ares^> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:23] <Ares^> libc6-dev is already the newest version.
[10:23] <Ares^> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:23] <warreng> heh.. i wonder how much faster ubuntu would be running if i wasn't running it through vmware
[10:24] <Nermal> lo lo
[10:24] <Nermal> I have a problem with sound on this laptop... seems to play but getting no audio out
[10:24] <Nermal> checked mixer settings.. all seem ok
[10:25] <warreng> hrm... i want my f12 key to make all the windows zoom out and spread out so i can then click on one... mac OS X style....
[10:25] <crimsun> Nermal: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:26] <Nermal> ook
[10:26] <Nermal> hmm.. let me get this machine on the net :|
[10:26] <warreng> join #gaim
[10:26] <warreng> er
[10:28] <alekz> hi, i installed nessus pkg but i dont know how to start nessus server, can someone help me ?
[10:28] <Jedrick> what's the command in the terminal to remove directory?
[10:28] <alekz> Jedrick, rm -rf dir
[10:28] <ktogias_> alekz, sudo /etc/init.d/nessusd start
[10:28] <cheemp> how do i read the syslog ?
[10:28] <Jedrick> ok thnx
[10:29] <mahangu> ok it picks up the monitor fine
[10:29] <mahangu> but now the laptop is off
[10:29] <mahangu> the screen i mean
[10:29] <mahangu> only working from my external
[10:29] <Ares^> hmm now i can find stdio.h in in /usr/include/ but still same compiling errors, do i need to do anything else ? (restart, change some settings)
[10:29] <alekz> ktogias_, alekz@ubuntu:/usr/bin$ sudo /etc/init.d/nessusd start
[10:29] <alekz> sudo: /etc/init.d/nessusd: command not found
[10:30] <nalioth> Ares^: install "apt-file" on your box and use it to search for your file
[10:30] <alekz> anyone here has nessus installed ?
[10:30] <Ares^> nalioth,  whats the package called ? i cant find apt-get install apt-file
[10:30] <ktogias_> alekz, in my hoary this is the script... Look into /etc/init.d/ for something like that...
[10:31] <alekz> i did it ktogias_ but nothing :(
[10:31] <nalioth> !info apt-file
[10:31] <confrey> hi everybody
[10:31] <ubotu> apt-file: (APT package searching utility -- command-line interface), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 2.0.7ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 92 kB
[10:31] <nalioth> Ares^: if you cant find it, enable universe and multiverse
[10:31] <RezDawg> i added some games through synaptic and some showed up and some didnt show up in games menu folder. what determines which show up and which dont.  and how do I launch/play the ones that dint show up in the menu,  thanks
[10:31] <maxmouse> how do i stop my webcam from automatically being loaded when i plug it into the usb port? i want to be able to use it in vmware
[10:31] <nalioth> RezDawg: console games wont show up in the menus
[10:32] <RezDawg> nalioth: can you tell me what constitues console games?
[10:32] <alekz> ktogias_, lol i didnt made apt-get install nessusd xD
[10:33] <nalioth> RezDawg: games you play in console
[10:33] <confrey> can I have an antispam filter in evolution?
[10:33] <maxmouse> i get the error "The specified device appears to e claimed by another driver (Philips webcam) on the host operating system which means that the device may be in use. VMware Workstation cannot safely take control of the device until the host driver is unloaded.
[10:33] <Ares^> console games might be also PS2 or Xbox games
[10:33] <RezDawg> nalioth: as in games you run through a terminial?
[10:34] <nalioth> RezDawg: yes console = terminal
[10:34] <nalioth> confrey: yes you can, but dont as me particulars
[10:35] <stewski> hi ubuntu peeps
[10:36] <confrey> nalioth, but is it integrated in evolution, like it is in thunderbird?
[10:36] <noorman> How do I get xmms to display special characters. I am norwegian, and I read that it is possible to launch xmms with "LC_ALL=de_DE.ISO-8859-15 xmms", This works fine, but is doesnt stay permanent. Anyone?
[10:36] <nalioth> confrey: i believe it's another program, but i'm not up on which one or how to set it up
[10:37] <stewski> evolution has a quirk I just noticed, appointments are by default set in birthdays & aniversaries which is (on the web) so by default you cant edit them
[10:37] <nalioth> confrey: spamassasin or some such thing
[10:37] <Transporter_> !ipod
[10:37] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[10:37] <Transporter_> !update
[10:37] <ubotu> Transporter_: I don't know
[10:37] <confrey> nalioth, ok, thanks
[10:38] <stewski> anyone know how to delete unwanted network places in ubu 5.04
[10:38] <confrey> and do you know any pim application for gnome? (not evolution)
[10:38] <cheemp> what do i need in dhcpd.conf for just a netusb connection on usb0 ?
[10:39] <nalioth> confrey: gnome-pim  ?
[10:39] <stewski> OK I take that back just umount from the desktop doh :-)
[10:39] <Ares^> !repos
[10:39] <ubotu> sources is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:39] <Nermal> woo.. sound working
[10:40] <stewski> yeah my 5.04 was far from a idiot proof set up, but its running pretty smart now
[10:40] <stewski> sounds been  big pain
[10:41] <stewski> no surround support for nforce that I can find
[10:41] <confrey> nalioth, tahnks, but gnome-pim is for gnome 1, I don't want to install it
[10:41] <stewski> whats wrong with evo conf?
[10:41] <silent_scream> guys help! i totally removed windows from my disk so as to install only ubuntu, and the installation of ubuntu stucks on intalling grub
[10:42] <silent_scream> i made 2 partitions. / and swap
[10:42] <silent_scream> do i vave to make another partition for grub to be installed on it ?
[10:43] <stewski> anyone got any advice for an ftp client on ubuntu
[10:43] <nalioth> silent_scream: you do not
[10:43] <ubuntu_> exit
[10:43] <silent_scream> stewski, when i had windows i never had this prob
[10:44] <stewski> which prob scream?
[10:44] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[10:45] <da_bon_bon> is it possible for usplash to have different modes ? like verbose, silent ?
[10:45] <silent_scream> the installation of ubuntu stucks on intalling grub
[10:46] <silent_scream> thats my prob stewski
[10:46] <stewski> which ubuntu sceam?
[10:46] <stewski> 5.10, 5.04?
[10:46] <silent_scream> breezy stewski
[10:47] <stewski> and you say your disk was entirely wiped and partitions set?
[10:47] <Nick_Hill> !networking
[10:47] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Nick_Hill
[10:47] <stewski> what disks/pc linux is usualy Vgood with disks/bootloader
[10:47] <Nick_Hill> !mp3
[10:47] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[10:47] <silent_scream> yea stewski , it has nothing on it
[10:48] <silent_scream> i just made 1 partition for the / and 1 for swap
[10:49] <manuvcube> if I mont an smb share, where do I find it in filesystem? (for bash access)
[10:50] <stewski> its nice to have a boot too
[10:50] <alekz> i've installed nessus and nessusd but i dont have user and password to connect, how can i get it ?
[10:51] <znh> I have a Toshiba 480CDT installed with ubuntu, now I am wondering how to activate hibernate/sleep?
[10:51] <da_bon_bon> can i change the USplash image ?
[10:51] <stewski> I made a / /boot /usr /swap
[10:51] <da_bon_bon> i want something fullscreen
[10:51] <manuvcube> alekz: there are nessus-config and nessus-user tools in the nessus directory to make users
[10:51] <silent_scream> stewski what do tou mean ?
[10:51] <silent_scream> stewski, should i make one partition for boot ?
[10:52] <stewski> I mean I created 4 partitions
[10:52] <stewski> yes why not
[10:52] <silent_scream> so the first to be / the second swap the third /boot ?
[10:52] <silent_scream> and the forth ?
[10:53] <stewski> well I put my boot at the start of my harddisk
[10:53] <stewski> 1 to 16573
[10:53] <silent_scream> stewski the /boot partition how many space does it need ?
[10:54] <stewski> I made mine about a 100Mb shich is plenty
[10:54] <stewski> its just kernel and a few bits
[10:55] <confrey> I'd like to use some apps of marillat repository, whats the correct repository I add for ubuntu?
[10:56] <manuvcube> where can I find smb mounts in filesystem?
[10:56] <confrey> stable, sid?
[10:56] <da_bon_bon> where is the BOGL home apge ?
[10:56] <da_bon_bon> i want to use it in other distro
[10:56] <rob^> confrey, sid, good luck though
[10:56] <Cryptid> Please tell me the step by step procedure to perform a scan disk and fix badsectors on my harddisk (i am not sure if it has bad sector but i want to perform a scan).so what is the command to perform a scan disk and what are the things i need to know before doing the scan (will there be a data loss or will i have to reinstall Ubuntu again)?
[10:57] <rob^> confrey, are you sure they are not in universe/multiverse?
[10:57] <confrey> I need at least avidemux and dvdrip
[10:57] <confrey> rob^, lame...
[10:57] <rob^> confrey, lame and dvdrip are
[10:58] <confrey> good... but I can't fine avidemux
[10:58] <manuvcube> Cryptid: see the manufacturers website for a harddisktool. But that's not ubuntu-specific, normally it are dos-bootdisk-images (like DFT from IBM/Hitachi)
[10:58] <confrey> good... but I can't find avidemux
[10:58] <da_bon_bon> !bogl
[10:58] <ubotu> da_bon_bon: I don't know
[10:58] <rob^> confrey, yeah you might have to get that from the other repo
[10:59] <Cryptid> manuvcube, like u have scandisk and diskdefrag in Windows isnt there any such program in ubuntu
[10:59] <confrey> rob^, what's the more right way : adding repository or install manually with dpkg, while correcting some wrong dependencies?
[10:59] <Ares^> anyone know how to install an isa sound card on ubuntu ?
[10:59] <bradd> anyone know much about nvidia cards? specifically when I plug my tv-out into my tv the pages flip.. is there a way to set in the card some option (what I don't know yet) to stop this?
[10:59] <Cryptid> manuvcube, i tried doing a scan disk by inserting my win98 cd but it dosent read the hard disk because it is in ext3 format
[10:59] <nalioth> Cryptid: man fsck
[11:00] <rob^> confrey, it would be easier to just add the millart repos and install that way, what does avidemux depend on that isn't in the ubuntu repos?
[11:00] <nalioth> confrey: installing debian binaries is not a good idea, better to compile from source repos
[11:00] <stewski> does anyone know how to set advanced options in the inbuilt gnome FTP client in ubuntu
[11:01] <Cryptid> nalioth, do i have to boot from a live disk and use fsck coz when i try to do it normally it says that there might be severe data loss during scan
[11:02] <stewski> does anyone know how to set advanced options (passive active etc) in the inbuilt gnome FTP client in ubuntu
[11:02] <nalioth> Cryptid: yes, you should run it on an unmounted drive
[11:02] <dazvid> Question: in breezy it says the latest version of spim is 6.5, however there is a 7.1 release. Why is it that 7.1 is not in the repos?
[11:02] <rob^> stewski, try man gftp
[11:02] <claes> Ares^, Have you tried to use isapnptools from universe?
[11:02] <nalioth> dazvid: b/c there was a version freeze and the stable programs at that time were the ones included
[11:03] <stewski> rtfm good point :-)
[11:03] <stewski> no man
[11:03] <Cryptid> nalioth, so now i just have to boot from the live disk and use fsck, rite? there wont be any data loss of ne sort,rite?
[11:03] <Nermal> Cryptid: right*
[11:04] <Nermal> any*
[11:04] <znh> Nermal*
[11:04] <dazvid> nalioth, but my spim doesnt even work! It gets a seg fault and complains about "trap.handler"
[11:04] <Nermal> textspeak n00bs piss me off and this channel is full of them :|
[11:04] <nalioth> Cryptid: when you are working with computers anything can happen
[11:04] <rob^> stewski, sorry, but its not something many people use, the best bet in this case is the man page
[11:04] <nalioth> dazvid: i dont even know what spim is
[11:05] <dazvid> Its a MIPS simulator :)
[11:05] <stewski> yup rob if I could suss out what the app is Id have a chance
[11:05] <rob^> stewski, is gftp
[11:05] <nalioth> dazvid: find you some debian source repos and have apt-get build a newer version for you, or compile it yourself from virgin source code
[11:05] <Cryptid> nalioth, have u dont this ne time? coz i have pretty importnt data on my hardrive and i can effort to loose it. is it normal that during fsck there will surely be data loss? is that the way fsck work?
[11:06] <stewski> hmmmm no man or comand line for gftp Ill have a nose over at gnome
[11:06] <dazvid> nalioth, I will give it a go...
[11:06] <dazvid> wish me luck though :P
[11:06] <stewski> http://gftp.seul.org/screenshots.html
[11:06] <stewski> doesnt look much like gftp
[11:06] <nalioth> Cryptid: there shouldnt be any data loss, but backups are advised for any sensitive data (whehter you use fsck or now)
[11:07] <rob^> stewski, man gftp works here
[11:07] <Cryptid> nalioth, ok thanx for the help i will now perform fsck and see wha happens
[11:07] <stewski> 5.04?
[11:09] <stewski> see gftp isnt installed on my system I dont think its part of the standard install
[11:09] <stewski> but there is an FTP client built into ubuntus gnome panel
[11:10] <stewski> places connect to server
[11:10] <stewski> Ill have gftp down to solve my imediate issue, but Id like to suss out how to use configure the inbuilt client
[11:10] <Severian> stewski, I had to use synaptic to add gftp.  It is no big deal.
[11:11] <stewski> indeed sev
[11:12] <stewski> Ive used plenty of ftp clients, was hoping to config the inbuilt one
[11:12] <Severian> I only used gftp because someone wanted to see it.  The command line ftp client is what I normally use.  Either that or wget.
[11:12] <Ares^> claes,  where is universe ?
[11:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ares^ about sources
[11:13] <claes> Thanks nalioth.
[11:14] <stewski> sev its not about me - Im happy cli or user Im trying to use ubuntu for friends family and eventualy in schools/colleges - they wont use cli
[11:15] <G2> what's the release cycle of ubuntu-server?
[11:15] <highvoltage> seems like 6 months, with 18 month support cycles.
[11:15] <nalioth> G2: every 6 months with an 18 month support lifetime
[11:16] <rob^> stewski, its not
[11:16] <stewski> anyone had much experience with edubuntu/terminal services?
[11:16] <stewski> its not what rob?
[11:16] <G2> nalioth: same as stock debian?
[11:16] <Severian> Is Ubuntu server an official project.  I saw some announcements about it today and I downloaded it.  But the main web site is silent on that variant.
[11:16] <rob^> stewski, gftp
[11:16] <rob^> yes
[11:16] <ktogias_> is there a way to limit transfer rate when downloading packages via apt-get?
[11:17] <rob^> but that depends where you downloaded it I guess :)
[11:17] <BoD_SWAT> I've installed the ATI drivers from the repository (3D acceleration works). How can I set up my dual-screen configuration now? (any pointers?)
[11:17] <nalioth> G2: i know nothing about stock debian, but i dont think they release every 6 months
[11:17] <stewski> what part of the standard install, no I realise I was hoping to conf the built in client never mind
[11:18] <G2> nalioth: every 3 years ;-)
[11:18] <rob^> G2, when its ready :)
[11:18] <rob^> (and thats not a joke)
[11:18] <rob^> :)
[11:18] <highvoltage> not a bad thing, either.
[11:19] <rob^> I never said it was
[11:19] <highvoltage> if someone wants fast releases, there's always ubuntu.
[11:19] <rob^> yep
[11:19] <heatxsink_> anyone in here a debian guru?
[11:20] <heatxsink_> i know this is ubuntu
[11:20] <rob^> I'm sure you'll find one or two
[11:20] <highvoltage> heatxsink_: define debian guru?
[11:20] <Ares^> nalioth, how do i use the universe and multiverse ?
[11:21] <stewski> gftp will do me (need to be able to force active mode) annoying that I cant find the inbuilt client though :-(
[11:21] <heatxsink_> highvoltage:  i'm trying to figure out what to put in my sources.list so I can get fglrx, cause it's in debian sid
[11:22] <rob^> heatxsink_, you will probably want xorg-driver-fglrx instead
[11:22] <heatxsink_> yes
[11:22] <heatxsink_> that's exactly what I want
[11:22] <rob^> !ati
[11:22] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[11:22] <martii> heatxsink_: it's unstable
[11:22] <rob^> check that one out heatxsink_
[11:23] <stewski> no one knows of surround sound support for nforce2 I guess?
[11:23] <martii> heatxsink_: freezes my desktop for good
[11:23] <nalioth> Ares^: once you've enabled then in your sources.list, you'll have many more programs to choose from. use synaptic to search
[11:23] <rob^> stewski, you could try the wiki
[11:24] <stewski> what for the inbuilt ftp?
[11:24] <heatxsink_> damn
[11:24] <heatxsink_> haha
[11:24] <Ares^> how do i enable those in my source list ? (kinda of a n00b here)
[11:24] <znh> what provides make?
[11:24] <rob^> Ares^, read the info on that link ubotu gave you
[11:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ares^ about repos
[11:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ares^ about synaptic
[11:25] <znh> what provides gcc and make and that?
[11:25] <nalioth> znh: install "build-essential"
[11:25] <znh> nalioth: ah yes, thanks
[11:25] <rob^> grr too quick for me nalioth :)
[11:26] <heatxsink_> damn I can't even install xorg
[11:26] <rob^> heatxsink_, it should be installed already
[11:26] <heatxsink_> rob^:  may I msg you?
[11:27] <rob^> heatxsink_, sure
[11:27] <stewski> yeah not much mention of ftp client in the offical wiki
[11:27] <stewski> hard to know where ubuntu ends and gnome begins
[11:28] <aftertaf> anyone know how to get tv out working on an ati rage 128 ?
[11:32] <nnonix> aftertaf: "sudo apt-get install windowsXP" MuWahaha
[11:33] <nalioth> nnonix: that's a very evil idea
[11:34] <icell> hi
[11:34] <stewski> sudo apt-get install windowsXP avast zonealarm ad-aware morememory a bigger bank balance
[11:34] <onkarshinde> stewski: :)
[11:34] <nnonix> nalioth: its the only way I know of to get TV out working on a rage
[11:35] <Severian> nnonix, that is really mean.  To even jokingly suggest that someone install XP just makes me shudder.
[11:35] <stewski> hey I still think XPs the best OS M$ ever made
[11:35] <icell> " If you changed your aptitude dependency-settings not to select recommended packages automatically," ..how to redo this ?
[11:35] <onkarshinde> stewski: I think 2K is the best.
[11:35] <rob^> stewski, that is off topic here
[11:35] <icell> i am installing ltsp with ubuntu 5.10 ...but i cannot login the thin client ....
[11:36] <Severian> I had TV out working on another ATI card in Windows 2000.  It is not nearly as evil as XP.
[11:36] <stewski> ohhhh get you rob :-)
[11:36] <stewski> yeah onk
[11:36] <icell> the thin client   prompts for the login screen ...but it does not allow any user to login
[11:36] <rob^> -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:36] <Kyynara> when I try to compile a program this happens, http://pastebin.com/399632
[11:36] <nnonix> Severian: not like I want to debate this (I don't) but there is hardly anything evil in XP that is not in 2000.
[11:36] <Kyynara> could someone shed some light on what my problem could be
[11:37] <nalioth> icell: perhaps .aptituderc?
[11:37] <onkarshinde> Can some one explain me what is thin client? Is it (hard) diskless machine?
[11:37] <nalioth> nnonix: just more of it
[11:37] <icell> can anyone please help me ........ ? .aptituderc ?
[11:37] <Kyynara> the compilation has worked for others, so there should be no fault in the makefile
[11:37] <leagris> icell, are your users allowed remote login via gdm/kdm/xdm whatever ?
[11:37] <icell> i am a RHCT but new to ubuntu ...
[11:37] <Disconected> how to make my ubuntu client can read other client using windows xp?
[11:37] <stewski> effective you can think of a thin client as a screen and keyboard only window onto a terminal (server) pc
[11:37] <Severian> nnonix,  DRM and activation are hardly nothing.  And XP is so ugly.  But, you are right that we should not spend more time on it.  Take the last word, as you wish.  I'll say no more.
[11:38] <Disconected> i meant communicate
[11:38] <icell> no....the login screen appears and waits for the users to login .....
[11:38] <kemik> Disconected:  do you mean filesharing? samba
[11:38] <Disconected> share etc
[11:38] <stewski> so most processing is done server side
[11:38] <icell> LTSP Display manager ...Session ..Language ...username ...password .....
[11:39] <stewski> anyone got any experience setting up ltsp/ubuntu
[11:39] <Disconected> thank you guys
[11:39] <Severian> icell, I can't help you much, because I have never set up a ltsp.  But, I am interested.  What thin client are you using.  I was thinking of getting a IBM 8464 or two to experiment with.
[11:39] <stewski> Im after making a small edubuntu Terminal Server setup as proof of concept for schools
[11:39] <leagris> icell, If I remember right, the login screen run as root or another dummy user then it launch X as the logged user. You may want to check the dm config
[11:39] <icell> i have a normal PC without HDDs
[11:39] <onkarshinde> stewski: Thanks. That menas Ubuntu can replace old schools computers which use dos with novell netware, right?
[11:40] <rob^> stewski, checked out edubuntu?
[11:40] <stewski> downloaded last night
[11:40] <rob^> umm yeah :P
[11:40] <icell> for the clients , i am having normal PCs without HDDs
[11:40] <Severian> icell, Do yours have the boot proms on the nics?
[11:40] <stewski> pretty much onkarshinde
[11:40] <icell> what is .aptituderc ?
[11:41] <leagris> icell, I played with that setup last year with a mandrake distro and even used clusternfs for a per user NFS name maping. Now the clusternfs is no longer supported
[11:41] <icell> i have full blown PCs without HDD to setup these LTSP ...
[11:41] <stewski> yeah you could do with PC with PXE nics but you can make less thin clients so I hear?
[11:41] <nalioth> icell: in your home directory are invisible files (*nix doesnt show files beginning with .) that guide your programs on their way. they end in rc usually
[11:41] <stewski> simplified boot disk, logs on to term server
[11:41] <leagris> icell, what is your display manager ?
[11:42] <icell> i get the boot screen but does not boot..the docs says that i have to   " If you changed your aptitude dependency-settings not to select recommended packages automatically """"  so how to i redo this ?
[11:42] <Disconected> !ping
[11:42] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, disconected.
[11:42] <icell> display manager is system default:GNOME:failsave terminal ...
[11:44] <kresten> Hi there! What is the syntax for installing .deb packages?