[00:03] <Rinchen> barry, done.
[01:45] <ogra> heya ...
[01:45] <jammcq> hey all
[01:45] <jammcq> anybody know if there's a way to migrate sourceforge mailing lists into launchpad?
[01:49] <mwhudson> i remember reading something about that :)
[02:36] <cody-somerville> The link I got in the new mailing list available team xyz was: https://xmlrpc.lp.internal/~cody-somerville/+editemails
[02:36] <cody-somerville> Obviously that isn't correct :)
[02:41] <Fujitsu> cody-somerville: Rinchen sent an email to launchpad-users about that a couple of hours back.
[03:29] <ffm> I recived an odd email from the lp doc team.
[03:29] <ffm> It gave me a       https://xmlrpc.lp.internal/~ffm/+editemails link.
[03:33] <LaserJock> ffm: know thing, an email was sent to launchpad-users about it
[03:34] <ffm> LaserJock: Ok....
[03:34] <lifeless> win 20
[04:50] <Hobbsee> i'm sure it would be bad form to answer an email with "what, again?  You said this a few weeks ago".
[04:50] <Hobbsee> i'm sure i really shouldn't do it.
[04:53] <RAOF> Nah; people _love_ to be called absent minded :)
[05:00] <jml> Hobbsee: it would be bad form to send it to launchpad-users, I think :)
[05:01] <jml> Hobbsee: but I'm sure Joey wouldn't mind at all.
[05:01] <Hobbsee> jml: right.
[06:36] <emgent> morning
[08:18] <carlos> morning
[08:52] <Hobbsee> are we sure that the launchpad mailing lists stuff actually works as intended?
[08:56] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: What do you mean?
[08:57] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: that it doesn't mass-spam members of teams, or something
[08:57] <Fujitsu> Isn't it meant to?
[08:57] <Hobbsee> that all stuff actually goes to the mailing lists, rather than everywhere
[08:57] <Hobbsee> correct.  i'm asking if it works as it's meant to work, or still has bugs.
[08:58] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[08:58] <Hobbsee> heya mpt!
[08:59] <Fujitsu> *Evening* mpt.
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: i guess it's kinda sad, as i'm effectively asking if launchpad works like it's advertised to, or whether it will blow up.
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: seeing as i'll get lynched if it does (working with big teams here)
[08:59] <Fujitsu> If you create a mailing list, everyone will be spammed with the creation message.
[09:00] <Fujitsu> I believe that's all they'll get if they don't subscribe.
[09:00] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: right.
[09:00] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: yeah, mailing list was done ages ago
[09:12] <jamesh> Hobbsee: if you have questions, barry would be the one to ask
[09:12] <jamesh> after all, he is Mr. Mailman
[09:13] <Hobbsee> jamesh: i just want to know that it works, and doesn't fall over and mass spam everyone, even though it's been told to use the mailing list to send anything.
[09:15] <jamesh> Hobbsee: I haven't set up any mailing lists so don't know
[09:15] <Hobbsee> jamesh: right
[09:15] <jamesh> I believe the list creation has to be approved, but don't know what happens after that
[09:15] <Hobbsee> jamesh: if it doesn't all work, i'll send the lynch mob to barry-away.
[09:15] <Hobbsee> yeah, ti does.
[09:15] <jamesh> the developers of that bit of LP are on American time
[09:17] <Hobbsee> jamesh: no great problem.
[09:17] <Hobbsee> jamesh: i'm wary of anything that possibly generates mass-spam to mass-people, if you couldn't tell
[09:17] <seb128> hi
[09:18] <seb128> what is the standard way to report spam on a launchpad bug?
[09:18] <jamesh> Hobbsee: guess that's something to include on help.launchpad.net
[09:18] <seb128> the current comment on bug #186118 for example
[09:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 186118 in gnome-desktop "gnome-about crashed with KeyError in make_info_label()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186118 - Assigned to Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
[09:18] <jamesh> seb128: answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[09:18] <Hobbsee> seb128: questions, in the /topic
[09:19] <seb128> Hobbsee: that's not a question
[09:19] <seb128> jamesh: thanks
[09:20] <Hobbsee> seb128: i realise that.  what i meant was "you want the section marked "questions" in the /topic"
[09:20] <seb128> Hobbsee: ah, ok ;-)
[09:20] <Hobbsee> which gives you the URL that jamesh gave
[09:20] <seb128> gotcha
[09:20] <seb128> thanks
[09:21] <Hobbsee> :)
[09:21] <Hobbsee> seb128: didn't you know?  There shall be NO QUESTIONS asked in here.  NONE!
[09:21] <Hobbsee> :P
[09:21] <seb128> EDONTCARE
[09:21] <seb128> :-)
[09:21] <Hobbsee> awww
[09:21]  * Hobbsee is sure there's a monty python reference in there
[09:21] <Hobbsee> ah yes.  NO SINGING.
[09:22] <jamesh> I wonder what the user expected twitter to do with the bug report?
[09:23] <jamesh> it looks like an action initiated by the user rather than Twitter spamming us
[09:28] <Hobbsee> from the other bug there, it looks like he has no idea what he's doing anyway
[09:29] <seb128> Hobbsee: want to open the launchpad ticket for me about that? ;-)
[09:30] <Hobbsee> seb128: not really.
[09:30] <Hobbsee> seb128: you can use mail for it though
[09:30] <seb128> ok, I think I just don't care enough and will ignore it
[09:30] <Hobbsee> oh, wait, it's a question
[09:30]  * Hobbsee waits for it to load
[09:31] <Hobbsee> seb128: done
[09:31] <seb128> Hobbsee: thanks
[09:31]  * seb128 hugs Hobbsee
[09:31]  * Hobbsee hugs seb128
[09:31] <Hobbsee> apparently i'm not completely lazy
[09:31] <Fujitsu> Launchpad is synonymous with waiting.
[09:32] <jamesh> May you never find ubuntu on your shoe
[09:32] <Hobbsee> hm?
[09:32] <Fujitsu> ... interesting.
[09:32] <jamesh> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/14/linux_manual/page2.html
[09:33] <Fujitsu> Is PostgreSQL really that hard to pronounce?
[09:37] <\sh> Fujitsu, sometimes ;)
[09:47] <Hobbsee> i wish the invite mails for the teams actually worked, rather than being split across two lines
[09:47]  * Hobbsee manually constructs the URL
[10:52] <nand> barry-away: some feedback on edge: setting the ML as contact address of the team fails (OOPS-838EB38)
[10:57] <nand> barry-away: and an still empty (http://lists.launchpad.net/brainstorm-dev/) ML archive after having sent a test yesterday
[11:03] <stgraber> nand: I never received that test :)
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #218580 in xulrunner-1.9 "xulrunner-1.9 want remove j2re1.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218580
[11:17] <nand> barry-away, stgraber: so something is definitely wrong :)
[11:24] <Fujitsu> nand: Sure you sent it from the right address?
[11:35] <nand> Fujitsu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>right?
[11:36] <Fujitsu> nand: *From*, not to.
[11:38] <nand> Fujitsu: I'm subscribed using my "Preferred address", from which I sent the mail.
[11:38] <nand> I give a try by explicitely setting my email adress instead of the "preferred" one.
[11:39] <nand> stgraber: second test sent
[12:13] <edemkrimea> hello
[12:13] <barry> nand: have you submitted a bug report on that yet?
[13:04] <andrea-bs> hi, can I use the Launchpad theme for a web page outside launchpad.net?
[13:05] <mpt> andrea-bs, what kind of Web page?
[13:08] <nand> barry: not yet. Shall I make two separate ones (setting ML as contact address fails, and send a mail to the ML fails)?
[13:09] <andrea-bs> mpt: it's a list similar to +karma to list some small notices
[13:09] <barry> nand: yes, though i think they are the same problem, cascaded from the config bug
[13:09] <barry> nand: but just in case it'll be better to track them separately
[13:09] <barry> nand: thanks!
[13:12] <mpt> andrea-bs, I couldn't give you an answer off-hand, I suggest mailing the launchpad-users mailing list <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users> and I'll find someone to reply
[13:12] <andrea-bs> mpt: ok, thanks
[13:19] <nand> barry: here you are: bug 218625, bug 218628
[13:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 218625 in launchpad "[OOPS]setting the mailing list as contact address fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218625
[13:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 218628 in launchpad "Sending a message to a LP mailing list fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218628
[13:21] <barry> nand: thanks.  i'll be afk for a bit now, but will be working on this today
[13:21] <ubotu> New bug: #218625 in launchpad "[OOPS]setting the mailing list as contact address fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218625
[13:25] <ubotu> New bug: #218628 in launchpad "Sending a message to a LP mailing list fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218628
[13:26] <nand> barry: cool, thanks!
[14:31] <ubotu> New bug: #218647 in launchpad "Confirmation message appear in other browser tab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218647
[15:35] <ubotu> New bug: #218682 in launchpad "Change "new mailing list" notification text" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218682
[16:12] <elmargol> Does the ppa support backports?
[16:15] <ubotu> New bug: #218706 in launchpad "Template processor forces a newline at the end of the output" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218706
[16:27] <Hobbsee> elmargol: not currently
[16:32] <laga> can someone reactivate my signature for my code of conduct? https://launchpad.net/~laga/+codesofconduct
[16:33] <rkerr> any tips for creating a proper ssh key on windows?
[16:34] <Hobbsee> laga: would'nt you need to reactivate it yourself, or sign it again?
[16:34] <Hobbsee> oh wait, LP admin.
[16:34] <laga> yup :)
[16:34] <intellectronica> rkerr: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ used to be pretty good last time i tried
[16:35] <Hobbsee> laga: use the questions: link in the topic, but it's usually quicker just to resign and upload teh changed one
[16:35] <intellectronica> maybe there's something better these days, i haven't done windows in quite a while
[16:35] <laga> ah. ok, i'll resign it. thanks Hobbsee
[16:35]  * Hobbsee has 2 invalid ones, and one valid one
[16:35] <laga> Hobbsee: did you deactivate it two times? ;)
[16:35] <rkerr> intellectronica: yeah, i can never get launchpad to accept the keys putty makes
[16:35] <Hobbsee> laga: yeah
[16:35] <Hobbsee> laga: well, 2 different ones, once each time
[16:36] <intellectronica> rkerr: another option is to install cygwin and use normal openssh
[16:36] <intellectronica> rkerr: really? what is the problem?
[16:36] <rkerr> intellectronica: i paste the contents of the public key and launchpad says it's invalid
[16:36] <laga> wget really doesn't like downloading from laucnhpad w/o --no-check-certificate
[16:37] <intellectronica> rkerr: where do you get the key from? what does it look like? are you sure that you're using the right thing?
[16:38] <intellectronica> rkerr: b.t.w the new ubuntu has a fantastic windows installer. it's easier than ever before to get yourself started ;)
[16:38] <rkerr> intellectronica: well i did have it all setup in linux but i'm on a borrowed laptop at the moment
[16:38] <intellectronica> rkerr: right, which is why you need to register a new ssh key...
[16:39] <rkerr> intellectronica: i'm pasting whatever puttygen saves as the public key. but it looks nothing like what openssh generates for a public key
[16:39] <intellectronica> rkerr: oh, what does it look like, then?
[16:39] <rkerr> it's got all the ---- BEGIN SSH2 PUBLIC KEY ---- stuff
[16:40] <rkerr> i think openssh saves a 1-liner
[16:40] <rkerr> hm, maybe i need to take it from the putty UI instead of what it saves to the file
[16:41] <intellectronica> rkerr: see https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/26705 i think it may be the same problem you're experiencing
[16:41] <rkerr> ya there we goes
[16:41] <rkerr> intellectronica: that's exactly it
[16:41] <intellectronica> cool
[16:41] <intellectronica> rkerr: does the explanation mean anything to you? i don't have a windows machine here to try...
[16:42] <rkerr> intellectronica: yeah, it's the same as what i just did
[16:42] <intellectronica> and it still doesn't work?
[16:42] <rkerr> intellectronica: _does_ :)
[16:42] <intellectronica> great!
[16:43] <intellectronica> launchpad answers ftw :)
[16:43] <rkerr> aw, i can't +1 the answer
[18:06] <ubotu> New bug: #218753 in launchpad "GeoIP returns RS for Serbia which is the correct new iso code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218753
[18:21] <Vadi> Why do some links in launchpad help point to edge.launchpad.net? Is that proper?
[18:23] <statik> Vadi: it's because we do beta-testing on edge.launchpad.net
[18:23] <statik> Vadi: if you are not in the beta testers team, you should not be redirected to edge
[18:23] <statik> but, if people paste URLs, sometimes those URLs point to edge
[18:23] <statik> I often forget to edit my urls before pasting them
[18:24] <Vadi> statik: this is in official documentation though. Should I edit the link to point to the normal launchpad then?
[18:24] <statik> Vadi: yes, probably. where is it, I can confirm for you real quick
[18:24] <Vadi> https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair
[18:24] <statik> Vadi: and thanks for catching it!
[18:24] <Vadi> Step 2: Visit  your SSH keys page.
[18:25] <statik> Vadi: yep, that should not have edge in it
[18:27] <Vadi> Okay thanks, I fixed the link
[18:28] <statik> Vadi: you rock, thanks for the help
[18:28] <Vadi> np :)
[18:39] <MiserySalin> Hi..... I wanted to know how I can register or setup a distribution in launchpad. I wanted to add "Arch Linux" ... I'm not a developer of Arch.
[18:40] <MiserySalin> Just to mark "this bugs affect Arch Linux, too" ... like with Gentoo in Launchpad
[18:41] <ubotu> New bug: #218767 in launchpad "update-cve script commits too often" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218767
[18:47] <statik> MiserySalin: read this, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/22 then you can file a request here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[18:48] <MiserySalin> Thanks
[19:00] <Rinchen> >>> Meeting time in #launchpad-meeting
[19:01] <ubotu> New bug: #218783 in malone "OOPS parsing CSV for mantis bugtrackers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218783
[19:34] <kikojava> statik: this thing is cool
[19:34] <kikojava> but it requires a kinda big window!
[19:34] <statik> kikojava: yeah, we used it at barcamp
[19:34] <kikojava> it's a bit disturbing in a way
[19:34] <kikojava> typing into a browser page.
[19:36]  * rockstar_ wonders about XSS vulnerabilities
[19:37] <rockstar_> kikojava, Could I do <script>alert('XSS');</script> and you end up seeing it?
[19:37] <rockstar_> Er, seeing the messagebox
[19:37] <kikojava> no, I doubt this renders using JS via Java
[19:40] <kiko> rockstar_, it's just a java applet
[19:40] <kiko> java.freenode.net
[19:41] <rockstar_> I've seen some pretty shizzy java applets.  Just making sure this ain't one of them.
[19:49] <Rinchen> changed the next mtg time
[20:24] <statik> rockstar_: welcome aboard
[20:26] <rockstar_> statik, thanks!  I'm overly excited for the new gig.
[20:26] <rockstar_> Monday can't seem to come soon enough.
[20:27] <statik> rockstar_: just watch out for that Rinchen dude
[20:27] <Rinchen> I heard that.
[20:27]  * Rinchen laughs.
[20:27] <statik> :)
[20:28] <Rinchen> statik, he's coming to my tortur....er.... house on Monday
[20:29] <statik> awesome. induction into the launchpad code base is like a rollercoaster ride, it's awesome that you can do it in person
[20:29]  * rockstar_ makes sure to leave something besides breadcrumbs, in case Rinchen wants me to clean the over
[20:29] <rockstar_> s/over/oven
[20:30] <Rinchen> clearly statik, rockstar_ doesn't know about my evening job.
[20:30]  * rockstar_ yelps
[20:30] <Rinchen> *evil laughter*
[20:31] <statik> hey, this is a neat launchpad project http://launchpad.net/rescuetime-linux-uploader
[20:31] <Rinchen> man statik, I want your job :-)
[20:33] <statik> Rinchen: working on launchpad is like the best job i've ever had
[20:33] <Rinchen> statik, I'm going to signup for that. I think that could be fun
[20:33] <statik> I still want to spend a few months as a tow truck driver when I grow up
[20:34] <kiko> statik, that's got to have privacy issues!
[20:34] <statik> kiko: it does, and also has whitelists, and open source (auditable) clients, and i gave up on privacy anyway
[20:34] <statik> i just want to be more efficient
[20:35] <statik> the thing that was amazing to me about this project was that it is a reverse engineering project, and they started using launchpad, and the company links to them all over the place
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #218923 in launchpad "XMLRPCRunner should be more robust about mailing list exceptions" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218923


[00:10] <LaserJock> Ahmuck-Jr: yeah
[00:13] <Ahmuck-Jr> shucks
[00:15] <LaserJock> Ahmuck-Jr: I'm going to send out an email that does a better job of explaining what I was saying in the meeting anyway
[00:15] <LaserJock> Ahmuck-Jr: it was just highvoltage, sbalneav and myself, you didn't miss a ton :-)
[00:18] <Ahmuck-Jr> iirc, i was out that day
[00:18] <stgraber> oops, looks like I missed a meeting ... /me should really put all these in the company calendar
[00:18] <stgraber> my ability to switch through all my IRC channels all the time is greatly reduced during work hours ...
[00:18] <Ahmuck-Jr> seen my bug i filed?
[01:04] <Ahmuck-Jr> http://www.yanaklimava.com/Portfolio/1_virtuo/virtuo_main.html
[02:38] <nothingman> stgraber, your site on ltsp clusters is impressive
[02:41] <stgraber> nothingman: thanks
[02:41] <nothingman> have you put it to much practice?
[02:41] <nothingman> I would love to turn my term-server into a cluster for my students
[02:49] <stgraber> I work at RevolutionLinux where we have several customers running on ltsp-cluster
[02:50] <stgraber> with some relatively big networks made of over 3000 thin clients used by up to 40000 users, some of them having both thin clients for on-site access and NX access to the same servers from home
[03:08] <nothingman> very cool
[03:09] <nothingman> have you been able to use it for other purposes?  rendering, for instance?
[03:13] <stgraber> no, ltsp-cluster is about load-balancing the clients not the CPU time so it won't be useful for cases where you have a single process you want to be spread across the cluster
[03:14] <stgraber> basically when you login, it'll ask for an application server, this one will be returned based on the current load on the application servers and all your session will then be on that server
[08:16] <aminus> hi is anyone available here
[22:30] <aminus> hi is anyone here that can help me with server requirements


[10:48] <rb2k> Hey, is there a way to see the build script that a repo on launchpad uses?
[10:48] <rb2k> (e.g. the configure arguments)
[12:59] <dobey> rb2k: what do you mean by repo exactly? different projects use different build systems
[13:00] <rb2k> I think I figured my problem out
[13:00] <rb2k> I wanted to see how launchpad.net/~semiosis/+archive/ubuntu-glusterfs-3.3/ compiles the packages
[13:03] <dobey> you'll have to look at the build logs, or the source packages. a source package branch would also be something to look at if that person is using one. but you'd have to ask that person, not #launchpad, for the answer to that last one.
[19:07] <psusi> could an lp admin fix the preload project?  it says it's upstream connection is neverwinter nights integration.
[19:08] <psusi> preload in ubuntu that is
[19:10] <dobey> wtf
[19:12] <dobey> i wonder who did that
[19:12] <dobey> anyway, it's unlinked now
[19:18] <psusi> wtf indeed ;)
[19:24] <psusi> dobey: could you create the preload project to link it to?
[19:29] <dobey> psusi: you can if you want


[06:02] <portven> hello i need to update my xubuntu 18.04 to 19.04 ......can you help me
[06:08] <portven> hi
[06:10] <portven> i need some help
[06:12] <krytarik> Well, 1.) the support channel is #xubuntu, but 2.) you'd need to set the upgrade preferences to check for any release rather than just LTS ones.
[06:15] <portven> yes
[06:16] <portven> i need to update ......but my pc is 32 bit pc .......
[06:16] <krytarik> Well yeah, this won't work anymore.
[06:16] <portven> and i heard xubuntu wont release 32 bit anymore is it true
[06:18] <portven> ok
[07:19] <Spass> upgrading 32-bit 18.04 doesn't work? I didn't know that
[07:24] <ochosi> brainwash: could you test the icon theme fixes from yesterday with Thunar please?
[09:15] <brainwash> ochosi: https://i.imgur.com/64OfjbM.png
[09:26] <ochosi> kewl, thats as expected
[12:22] <flocculant> !team - bye guys :)
[12:22] <flocculant> sigh
[12:22] <flocculant> !team
[12:23] <flocculant> bye peeps - though I'll be about for a while off and on
[12:24] <flocculant> I'm gone from the Council now - before I went from Team, so when bluesabre or Unit193 remove me from there - it'll look like I'm still in it
[12:24] <flocculant> I'm not ;)
[12:24] <flocculant> been great working with you all - but life moves on
[12:24] <flocculant> knome: can you remove me from the team factoid :D
[12:29] <bluesabre> flocculant: it's been great, take care!
[12:30] <flocculant> I shall - you too :)
[14:01] <Spass> I can confirm this issue - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-users/2019-April/010975.html
[14:25] <brainwash> Spass: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15100
[14:26] <brainwash> so, fixed in the next exo release
[14:29] <Spass> great, thanks
[14:55] <sorinello> best wishes flocculant
[15:23] <Eickmeyer> flocculant: You'll be missed.
[16:14] <knome> flocculant, done
[18:19] <flocculant> knome: thanks :)
[21:31] <Unit193> flocculant: Just so you know, that song has been running through my head for the last 10 minutes now.  I appreciate the email's subject though!


[07:58] <tjaalton> tseliot: xorg-server with glx vendor selection uploaded to eoan
[07:58] <tjaalton> it got merged to server-1.20-branch last night
[07:58] <tjaalton> plus an abi fix
[07:59] <tjaalton> from gitlab
[07:59] <tseliot> tjaalton: great, thanks! I am going to make things easier on the nvidia side now