[09:05] <Ponch0> it was a dist-upgrade, removed a bunch of packages, installed others, updating during the day to 3-0-23 was not issue, but the packages was what messed it up
[09:05] <Seveas> I don't have that issue as I'm on 12.10 still and use Unity :)
[09:05] <Phryq> I'm just gonna do a new install and will see what things are like after that. Cya guys
[09:05] <Phryq> thanks
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Abbas|: don't know about Windows though
[09:05] <Abbas|> is it gui or console?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> Ponch0: when you say "dist-upgrade" do you mean updating from one version of Ubuntu to another?
[09:06] <dr_willis> a console video editor? Hmmm....
[09:06] <dr_willis> cant say ive really seen a console bassed video editor..
[09:06] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: back in the day, I used to edit video with vi
[09:06] <dr_willis> video reencoders.. yes..  but not a  'typical' editor
[09:06] <Ponch0> gordonjcp: No, im sorry my terminology is iffy, I have a fresh install of JUST ubuntu-gnome 13.04
[09:06] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: granted, that was making up EDLs to be fed to an offline controller
[09:07] <resolutionprob> NVIDIA Driver Version:304.88
[09:07] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: write a text file, save to floppy, and then stand there feeding tapes into the playback deck ;-)
[09:07] <dr_willis> gordonjcp:   Bah! luxery... back in my days.. we used to print things out on puncards to make animated booklets! :)
[09:07] <Ponch0> gordonjcp: not anymore, it was a "partial upgrade", which removed/updated/installed new/old packages.
[09:07] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: hah, rockin'
[09:08] <histo> dr_willis: http://cli-apps.org/
[09:08] <Ponch0> I haven't touched any software sources in over a month, unity is seriously a virus..
[09:08] <dr_willis> Unity works very well.. plese no ranting.
[09:08] <Ponch0> I'm sure it does, my apologies.
[09:09] <dr_willis> now package  bug/regressions... :) those are a pain.
[09:09] <resolutionprob> :c
[09:09] <dr_willis> by 'dist-upgrade' you did a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' you mean?
[09:10] <dr_willis> or did you do a release upgrade to the next release?
[09:10] <Giles1> I just upgraded to 13.04, I seem to have both gnome session fallback bar at the bottom of the screen and also unity side panel (only when I log in with session fallback and effects on)
[09:10] <Ponch0> well, since I have unity now, how can I properly fix the login screen so I don't log in AS "Gnome disp Manager",
[09:10] <Giles1> I would like to remove the sidebar.
[09:10] <Ponch0> dr_willis: no sir, I used software updater.
[09:10] <dr_willis> Ponch0:  to upgrade to the next release?
[09:10] <Ponch0> dr_willis: Yes, that's the only thing I use.
[09:11] <Ponch0> is the software updater.
[09:11] <dr_willis> Giles1:  you could see if a newly made user has the same issues. if a newly made user works properly - that points to some user config issue in the files in the users home.
[09:12] <Ponch0> Updater earlier during the day to 3-0-23, everything was fine, then about 20 minutes ago, I clicked software updater, told my I have 75 packages to be installed/removed/upgraded
[09:12] <dr_willis> a 'software update' is differnt then a 'release upgrade'   so did you go from 12.04 to 12.10 or somthing? or just updateed the packages FOR 12..04 ? or whatever release you are using?
[09:12] <Ponch0> No, sir I have a fresh install of ubuntu-gnome 13.04 for over a month now.
[09:13] <Giles1> dr_willis ok, I will try that.
[09:13] <dr_willis> been working 14 hrs here all week.. so ive not even done any updates in a week   ;()
[09:13] <dr_willis> not seen anyone else in here today mentioning 13.04 update issues either (yet) :)
[09:14] <Ponch0> dr_willis: wow, well thanks for you attempt, I appreciate it, get some sleep :)
[09:14] <dr_willis> i still got an hr to go befor i head home from work..
[09:14] <dr_willis> :) gotta love being able to IRC while at work
[09:14] <emily_> yeahhhh
[09:14] <emily_> sweet
[09:14] <Ponch0> Just a quickie tho, how can I fix the login screen issue, I'll stick to unity for now since it's here, I haven't backed up my files.
[09:14] <Ponch0> dr_willis: you're a trooper haha.
[09:15] <dr_willis> what login screen issue?
[09:15] <emily_> using irssi to connect from a server through ssh :3
[09:15] <dr_willis> emily_:  i tend to use weechat. ;)
[09:15] <emily_> i have wee couldnt figure how to start it remotely tho ^^
[09:16] <dr_willis> ssh in.. run 'weechat'
[09:16] <emily_> oh ok haha thanks i go try now
[09:16] <dr_willis> theres a experimental weechat-on-android client that connets to weechat on your pc also. ;)
[09:16] <Ponch0> After I restarted the computer, after the update/upgrade whatever that is.  it goes into a display manager. There my mouse doesn't work or anything else, I hit ctrl alt del and it says "You're logged in AS "Gnome Display Manager", logs me out after 60 seconds, the display manager shows up again but now I can use my keyboard to log in.
[09:17] <dr_willis> Gnome dosplay manager is the X login screen.. it does run as the GDM user .   You could try switching back to lightdm to see if lightdm works any better.   (or switch back to gdm later) via the command.......
[09:17] <Ponch0> But I have to choose with the arrow keys "Ubuntu" from "System default" at bottom of display manager before I type in password.
[09:17] <resolutionprob> any idea, dr_willis? o-o
[09:17] <dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm                   (or gdm)
[09:18] <Ponch0> dr_willis: thank you much, all your hard work does not go unappreciated.
[09:18] <dr_willis> i tend to use gdm because it looks nicer. ;)
[09:18] <Ponch0> dr_willis: yup, that's what I've been using, I'm really not sure what happened.
[09:19] <Ponch0> But now it's a different display manager.. Oh well.
[09:19] <dr_willis> you could try older kenerls from the grub menu also.. see if older kerneles work.
[09:19] <dr_willis> they may be having some issue with gdm/lightdm
[09:19] <dr_willis> or go funky and try some alteernatives to gdm/lightdm ;)
[09:19] <dr_willis> !info slim
[09:20] <dr_willis> i cant even rember the other *dm managers
[09:20] <Ponch0> dr_willis: alrighty, again thanks for your help. :) enjoy your day/night.
[09:22] <Ponch0> It seems I have both, GDM and lightdm installed on my system after "update", can I remove one of them using Synaptic Package Manager, or should I use command line?
[09:22] <Ponch0> I'm trying to play nice, must back up files first :)
[09:23] <Phryq> hey
[09:23] <Phryq> so I just did a clean install. I've done *nothing* to the system except install x-chat
[09:23] <Phryq> but when I try to install Flash I get the same error as before
[09:24] <Phryq> raaawr
[09:25] <dr_willis> i just leave all the dms installed in case one goofs up. ;)
[09:25] <dr_willis> Phryq:  you did a sudo apt-get upgrade?
[09:25] <dr_willis> then how are you installing flash?
[09:25] <Phryq> from the software center
[09:26] <Phryq> should I do a sudo apt-get upgrade right after a clean install?
[09:26] <dr_willis> use the command line.. that way you see errors. ;)
[09:26] <dr_willis> i always do a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'   after installing..  to be sure its all up to date
[09:26] <Phryq> oh ok. I'll do it in a minute. The automatic updater has started so I have to let it finish
[09:27] <dr_willis> thats basically doing the same thing then. ;)
[09:31] <Giles1> dr_willis I tried with a fresh user account and it was no different.
[09:31] <atomx> Is there a way to upgrade Xubuntu from 12 to 13 ?
[09:31] <dr_willis> Giles1:  that is weird..
[09:32] <dr_willis> atomx:  you can do release upgrdess from 12.x to 13.x
[09:32] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[09:32] <Giles1> dr_willis: Can I remove unity packages all together?
[09:32] <atomx> thanks. did somebody did it before, in order to tell me whethere it's worth doing it
[09:32] <atomx> ?
[09:32] <forbi> what does the diffrences for me to install uefi rather than bios?
[09:32] <dr_willis> Giles1:  guess you could.. but i perfer unity
[09:33] <Giles1> dr_willis: I said can "I"
[09:33] <dr_willis> Giles1:    how were you using the old gnome look?  you dident install cinnimon or anything else weird did you?
[09:33] <resolutionprob> dr_willis, http://i.imgur.com/dkxWtJK.png
[09:33] <Giles1> dr_willis: no just gnome-session-fallback
[09:34] <dr_willis> Giles1:  you can use the package manager and uninstall anythin gyou want.. but it may break the whole system .. its hard to tell sincce your system is allready acting goofy
[09:34] <Giles1> dr_willis: yeah I use apt-get
[09:35] <treespider> Hello! Is anyone here using VMware Player? Why is it being downloaded as a 177 MB big .txt file?
[09:36] <Giles1> dr_willis:  Its not major worries, I just wont use compiz effects.
[09:36] <iPenguin> Hi
[09:37] <dr_willis> hmmm.
[09:37] <Jordan_U> treetreetr33: It's not a text file, it's a file which contains an install script at the beginning, and the data to be installed follows after the script.
[09:38] <iPenguin> Which operating downloads faster?>
[09:38] <Mrokii> Hello. This isn't directly related to Ubuntu, but can anybody recommend a good filemanager that is also highly customizable by Python plugins?
[09:38] <iPenguin> dropbox
[09:38] <iPenguin> Mrokii: Dropbox i recommend.
[09:38] <dr_willis> nautilus has the often overlooked 'nautilus scripts' feature.
[09:39] <dr_willis> but other then that.. i dont even recall any file managers with fancy scripting plugins
[09:40] <Mrokii> dr_willis: I despise the latest Nautilus and regard it as broken beyond belief, tbh. That's why I'm looking for alternatives.
[09:40] <treespider> Hello! Is anyone here using VMware Player? Why is it being downloaded as a 177 MB big .txt file?
[09:40] <atomx> dr
[09:41] <Mrokii> iPenguin: I will take a look, thanks.
[09:41] <dr_willis> err.. dropbox is not a file manager...
[09:41] <iPenguin> Mrokii:Your welcome
[09:41] <iPenguin> Its a file uploading one.
[09:41] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  theres some  patched nautiuls's out and theres dozens of other file managers in the repos.
[09:41] <Jordan_U> treespider: It's not a text file, it's a file which contains an install script at the beginning, and the data to be installed follows after the script.
[09:41] <yeats> treespider: use 'file' to check what the actual file format is
[09:41] <atomx> dr_willis: I did the steps recommended there , and to me the newest version appears to be 12.10 , not 13 :(
[09:42] <treespider> Jordan_U: How on earth do I use it? :/
[09:42] <atomx> I am using Xubuntu, not Ubuntu
[09:42] <atomx> How can I upgrade to 13 ?
[09:42] <Ponch0> How do I view all my installed apps in the search tab?
[09:42] <dr_willis> atomx:  you upgrade from one relase to the next.. you dont Skip btween relesses.. uneless you are going from a LTS to LTS trelese
[09:42] <treespider> yeats: How?
[09:42] <Mrokii> dr_willis: I guess there are a lot of file manager but that's the problem also. Too many to choose from.
[09:42] <Ponch0> It's only showing some of the most used when I click view more, it shows only a few of the more used apps.
[09:42] <Jordan_U> !vmware | treespider
[09:42] <dr_willis> atomx:  so you go 12.04  -> 12.10 -> 13.04
[09:43] <yeats> treespider: 'file filename'
[09:43] <treespider> Jordan_U: Thanks.
[09:43] <treespider> yeats: Thanks.
[09:43] <Jordan_U> treespider: You're welcome.
[09:43] <iPenguin> Can anyone tell me which ubuntu operating system downloads faster?
[09:43] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  decide on what features you want the most i guess.
[09:43] <atomx> dr_willis: you mean, I have to upgrade to 12.10, then it will appear 13 ?
[09:43] <iPenguin> i downloaded the normal one which takes 18 hours to download.
[09:43] <dr_willis> atomx:  thats what i said...
[09:43] <dr_willis> atomx:  so you go 12.04  -> 12.10 -> 13.04
[09:43] <atomx> :) thanks
[09:44] <atomx> great
[09:44] <yeats> iPenguin: they're all about the same size unless you download the mini.iso version
[09:44] <dr_willis> iPenguin:  you are asking what release is a SMALLer size to download then?
[09:44] <yeats> !mini | iPenguin
[09:44] <treespider> Jordan_U: The bot is wrong. There's no instructions there! :)
[09:45] <iPenguin> Umm, i have no DVD for that.
[09:45] <atomx> Ponch0: you can run aptitude directly, or in command line you can do dpkg --get-selections
[09:45] <yeats> treespider: before you continue, are you sure you *need* vmware here?  virtualbox is freely available in the repos and will do most of the same things (otherwise you can also use KVM)
[09:45] <dr_willis> use a usb flash drive iPenguin
[09:45] <Jordan_U> treespider: Yes there are. Read more carefully.
[09:46] <dr_willis> bye  all..
[09:46] <treespider> yeats: Well, VMware Player is free too, and I've used it on my Windows PC.
[09:46] <Ponch0> atomx: thank you.
[09:46] <treespider> Jordan_U: I can't find them.
[09:47] <Senjai> If i installed ubuntu without the gui, how can I install the GUI?
[09:47] <Jordan_U> treespider: I guess it's not stated explicitly, but the reason "VMware Player" is red is that it's a link to the page on installing VMware Player.
[09:47] <Senjai> Is there an apt-get install unity or something//.
[09:47] <Ponch0> One last question, I swear, how do I modify the sidebar in Unity? make it smaller, move it somewhere else... things like that.
[09:47] <Jordan_U> Senjai: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <Jordan_U> Senjai: That will get you all of the packages which would be installed by default in a normal Ubuntu Desktop installation.
[09:48] <yeats> treespider: I would recommend giving vbox a shot: 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox'
[09:48] <treespider> Jordan_U: OMG! I really need some coffee.
[09:48] <yeats> treespider: if it doesn't work for you, remove it and install vmware
[09:48] <Senjai> Jordan_U: will it turn on by defult?
[09:49] <treespider> yeats: I keep hearing that VirtualBox from Ubuntu Software Center is outdated, and last time I tried it, I ran into all kinds of strange error messages.
[09:49] <Jordan_U> Senjai: Yes, after installing the ubuntu-desktop package lightdm will start automatically at boot.
[09:49] <yeats> treespider: you can get the newest version here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[09:50] <treespider> yeats: I'll use VirtualBox (newest version) if you guide me through it. ;)
[09:50] <yeats> treespider: I'm not able to commit to that - if you hit problems, just ask the channel and someone can help
[09:51] <Ponch0> treespider: it's quite simple if you google up the steps, I'm clueless with this thing and it wasn't much I could do to mess it up following the steps :)
[09:51] <treespider> yeats: :( Ponch0: I'm scared!
[09:52] <Ponch0> treespider: you'll be just fine, believe in yourself!.  The coolest part is, whatever space you use to install it to, you can just delete it with the Virtual Box without having to go through some wipey tool.
[09:53] <treespider> Ponch0: Thanks.
[09:53] <josvis> exit
[09:54] <Benkinooby> hi, i have very slow internet (~64kb/s) and something is taking up all my bandwidth. Wireshar shows me lots of of traffic with one server, htop shows me that root is running apt-get -qq -y -d dist-upgrade - how can i stop that?
[09:55] <Benkinooby> i guess that is some kind of backgroud update?
[09:57] <Benkinooby> anyone?
[09:57] <Baahtti> when I installed Ubuntu 13.04, I chose full disk encryption, as well as to encrypt my home folder. What software does Ubuntu 13.04 use natively to encrypt files/directories/devices?
[09:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[09:57] <Jordan_U> Baahtti: LUKS for "full disk" (really root partition) encryption. Ecryptfs for encrypted home.
[09:58] <Jordan_U> Benkinooby: Ubuntu doesn't install updates without confirmation by default. Do you know who might have configured it to do so?
[09:58] <Benkinooby> how can i stop a running automaitc update?
[09:58] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: it is doing download only
[09:59] <Benkinooby> root is running apt-get -qq -y -d dist-upgrade
[10:00] <Jordan_U> Benkinooby: Ubuntu doesn't download updates without confirmation by default either (as far as I know, *maybe* Ubuntu server does but I doubt it).
[10:00] <Phryq> ok, restarted my computer, updated everything. Same error
[10:00] <yeats> Baahtti: cryptsetup/LUKS
[10:00] <Jordan_U> Benkinooby: You can safely kill apt-get as it's only downloading, but it will likely start again at some point.
[10:01] <treespider> When trying to start a virtual machine in VirtualBox: "This kernel requires the following  features not present on the CPU: pae". WHAT?!
[10:01] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: pobly i set it to check for updates now and then - when i still had good internet connection :P
[10:01] <Phryq> I'm thinking I'll just install Flash manually and give up on whatever the core issue is
[10:01] <Baahtti> TrueCrypt offers the ability to create a 'hidden' encrypted drive within an encrypted drive. Does Ecryptfs offer this capability?
[10:01] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: the point is now, even chcking (not download) for updates takes several minutes and teaks all my bandwidth
[10:01] <treespider> Ponch0: Did you get that error?
[10:02] <Jordan_U> Baahtti: No.
[10:02] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: so my setting changed and i would like to stop the current process without getting my system into trouble
[10:02] <emx> i would like to do a minimalistic install with the default window manager (gnome i guess). is there an official how to or do i need to know which package does what?
[10:02] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: that's why i am afraid to just kill apt-get
[10:02] <treespider> yeats: Any idea?
[10:02] <Jordan_U> Benkinooby: You can just kill it.
[10:02] <yeats> treespider: does your processor have virtualization extensions?
[10:02] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: well then.... thanks :)
[10:03] <Ponch0> treespider, I did not.. But one of my computers has a really bad HD and was getting issues in reference to that.
[10:03] <Jordan_U> Benkinooby: You're welcome :)
[10:03] <minimec> treespider: You seem to have some older 'pentium' CPU kind CPU. The only CPU I have without PAE is PEntium 1.5 Centrino laptop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[10:03] <treespider> yeats: No idea. :o
[10:03] <yeats> treespider: you may have to enable virtualization in the BIOS
[10:03] <treespider> minimec: Intel i5-3450...
[10:03] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: aaaahhhhh... there we go :) thank you
[10:03] <minimec> Mrokii: treespider Forget what I said... ;)
[10:04] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: how's that program called where i set all these parameters (when to look for updates, etc.)
[10:04] <treespider> yeats: On my host PC?
[10:04] <minimec> treespider: Hmmm... Let me check that...
[10:04] <[360]Developer> @Benkinooby: @Jordan_U: to view open connections "lsof -i -n -P"
[10:04] <treespider> minimec: Thanks.
[10:04] <FourFire> Well, I lack patience, I am now going to install Dual Boot without backing up anything, because if stupidity and stuff
[10:05] <Benkinooby> [360]Developer: thank you for that (interestingly your messags was not hilighted...) i alreeady found the culprit
[10:06] <[360]Developer> @Benkinooby: ok shot
[10:06] <Benkinooby> [360]Developer: they without the @
[10:06] <Benkinooby> *try
[10:06] <yeats> treespider: yes
[10:06] <minimec> treespider: Well that link is the explanation of my guess, that you have an older CPU. http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present
[10:07] <treespider> yeats: I'll reboot in a minute or two. Waiting for minimec to say something. :p
[10:07] <[360]Developer> Benkinooby: they should add it to irc haha
[10:07] <minimec> treespider: Is that a system you 'upgraded' from a 11.10 install?
[10:07] <viran> Hello, i have virtualbox unbuntu machine, i set an ip address using ifconfig which works fine, after a minute i that popup that says network has been disconnected. and a new ipv6 is assigned somehow.... my ipv4 is lost. any idea why?
[10:07] <treespider> minimec: No, I did a fresh 13.04 installation on my recently bought PC. :/
[10:08] <treespider> minimec: My CPU is not old! :(
[10:08] <minimec> treespider: And you CPU type is a i5 ivy bridge (3xxx), right?
[10:08] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: hm, something restarted it Oo
[10:08] <treespider> minimec: Yes.
[10:08] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: i will investigate on, thank you for your help [360]Developer thank you too
[10:09] <treespider> minimec: Intel i5-3450.
[10:09] <minimec> treespider: The think is... You are running a PAE kernel, because 13.04 only comes with PAE kernels by default...
[10:09] <[360]Developer> viran: are you running your virtualbox as nat?
[10:10] <viran> [360]Developer: no, as internal network
[10:10] <Ponch0> treespider: I have an i7-3630QM, and I did not experience those issues in VB although I no longer use that.
[10:10] <treespider> minimec: So what on earth is going on?!
[10:10] <minimec> treespider: Can you give me the 'error message' again?
[10:10] <treespider> Ponch0: Thank you for answering.
[10:10] <PlastikSpork> I am trying to install gnome 3.8 on to ubuntu 13.04 in a VM... after adding the repository I get unmet dependencies:  Gnome-shell depends: libpango-1.0-0, depends libpangocairo-1.0-0  but is not installable.  Any suggestions?
[10:10] <[360]Developer> viran: whats your version of virtualbox?
[10:10] <viran> [360]Developer: i have to machines, i set them ip addresses, and everything is fine. after a minutes both of the machine lose my ip settings
[10:10] <treespider> minimec: "This kernel requires the following  features not present on the CPU: pae"
[10:11] <viran> [360]Developer: 4.2.8
[10:11] <Ponch0> treespider: what are you trying to run?
[10:11] <Ponch0> in the machine.
[10:11] <[360]Developer> viran: thats just crazy
[10:12] <yeats> treespider: what is the output of 'uname -a'?
[10:12] <viran> [360]Developer: could it be an ubuntu issue?
[10:12] <treespider> Ponch0: I wanted to look at Debian and have it installed and ready if I ever decide to run Windows in a virtual machine.
[10:12] <aurelg_> join #debian
[10:13] <Ponch0> treespider: from personal experience I had a lot of issues with debian on newer machines.
[10:13] <treespider> yeats: "Linux PC 3.8.0-23-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:22:58 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[10:13] <[360]Developer> viran: i think its a configuration problem, because i have run testing before with that setup without problems
[10:13] <treespider> Ponch0: I'd still like to figure it out. :)
[10:14] <[360]Developer> viran: there might be a confict and ubuntu is trying to resolve it
[10:14] <Ponch0> treespider: You have a lot more patience then I, good luck :)
[10:15] <minimec> treespider: OK. I think the solution might be easy... Open the settings of the VirtualMachine you want to use and 'Enable PAE/NX' in 'System' 'Processor'... http://compinfopro.com/this-kernel-requires-the-following-features-not-present-on-the-cpu-pae/
[10:15] <martinux> Hey guys. I've just created my own bash script that suspends my lenovo g580 laptop when the lid is closed. The problem is that when I open the lid again, my screen turns black and I can't do anything. Could you please check my scripts for faults, as I don't know bash at all. Thanks!
[10:15] <martinux> http://pastebin.com/VqsZkWhu
[10:15] <[360]Developer> viran: setup a third vb as a DHCP server and the others as clients and see if the problem persists
[10:16] <treespider> minimec: Yes! Thank you! :)
[10:16] <treespider> minimec: That is very nice of you.
[10:16] <Baahtti> hrm, so WebcamStudio is no longer supported. Does anyone know of a dependable virtual web cam running on Ubuntu?
[10:17] <minimec> treespider: no problem... That's 'Google-fu'...
[10:17] <treespider> minimec: :)
[10:17] <viran> [360]Developer: if i keep ping running from one machine to the other, they dont lose the network settings
[10:17] <treespider> Jordan_U: yeats: minimec: Ponch0: Thank you all for helping me. I'm gonna go now. Bye!
[10:18] <minimec> Baahtti: What exactly do you want to do. You can use gstreamer from the 'command line', depending on your needs.
[10:18] <martijnHH> Hi folks, I want to package a scala build tool for a ppa that build-depends on itself. Is there any documentation about packaging scala (or java for that matter), and about bootstrapping a package?
[10:19] <Baahtti> minimec, well, my real issue is that I can't seem to solve my "upside down video" on Skype. I was hoping to find an easier fix by using a virtual webcam and inverting that in skype.
[10:19] <Ponch0> If I run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop currently on my ubuntu 13.04, will I lose all my files?
[10:20] <martijnHH> Ponch0: No, that is save
[10:21] <Ponch0> martijnHH: the files are saved?, just clarifying
[10:21] <ubuntu_newbie> hi all.can anyone help with a persistence issue with Ubuntu on a USB stick?
[10:22] <minimec> Baahtti: Well... You could install v4l2loopback-source (also v4l2loopback-dkms) from the repos. That gives you a virtual /dev/videoX after 'modprobe v4l2loopback. Then you pipe your webcam to the virtual device and flip the picture with gstreamer.
[10:22] <viran> [360]Developer: is it possible to create another host only adapter?
[10:22] <clcto> ubuntu_newbie: are you using a live cd or did you install it to the stick
[10:23] <ubuntu_newbie> i have it installed on a stick.  it is running now on laptop.
[10:23] <forbi> is it recommended to install via UEFI? for ubuntu
[10:23] <Baahtti> minimec, woah, that is a bit advanced for me. Let me try to let that sink in.
[10:23] <ubuntu_newbie> however, when i quit, all my settings disappear
[10:23] <martinux> Hi. If anyone could check my 19-line bash script meant to suspend - and un-suspend my laptop on lid-close for errors I would be very gratefull!
[10:23] <martinux> http://pastebin.com/VqsZkWhu
[10:23] <martinux> problem - when i open lid after suspend, screen turns black and I can't do anything
[10:24] <ubuntu_newbie> i have used various installers and tried different distros and checked the persistence option each time, but with no luck
[10:24] <vitimiti> hi o/
[10:26] <ubuntu_newbie> i have run ubuntu from a usb stick before with settings being saved, so i am not sure where i am going wrong this time
[10:29] <Baahtti> minimec, so if I did "modprobe v4l2loopback", that is asking the kernal to check for and load up the v4l2loopback driver which will mount a virtual device: /dev/videoX?
[10:31] <minimec> Baahtti: Exactly. If you load that one at boot (placing the 'v4l2loopback' in /etc/modules) it will always be /dev/video0.
[10:32] <Baahtti> minimec, and to load at boot, I need to edit something in init!
[10:32] <[360]Developer> viran: sorry i'm back, yes you can, but knowing now that your connection is sleeping is a new problem
[10:32] <Baahtti> minimec, let me have a look in there real quick
[10:33] <minimec> Baahtti: Exactly.  I know I should place that modprobe somewhere in one of those files, but I'm not certain which one.
[10:37] <clcto> TaZeR: you asked, i answered
[10:37] <minimec> TaZeR: ... because the best operating system is our planet earth ... ;)
[10:37] <TaZeR> what i  the world can be better than a fresb ubuntu installl
[10:37] <Robr3rd> Xubuntu has a wonderful (in my opinion) theme called "Blackbird" and I am wondering if there is a way to install it on Ubuntu.  When I re-open the lid, the screen turns black and I can't do anything. If you could review my 19-line script I would be very gratefull! http://pastebin.com/VqsZkWhu
[10:43] <[360]Developer> martinux: did you leave a video play running?
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> martinux  system settings, power, suspend when the lid is closed
[10:44] <martinux> MonkeyDust: I'm on i3wm, not using the gnome-manager-thingy
[10:44] <martinux> [360]Developer: no
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> martinux  if you want it in a script, better ask in #bash
[10:44] <Bhaktar> I have a hdd of 2TB. I had a ntfs partition on it. I shrunk it and transfered the data to a new 1.3TB ext3 partition. Now I resized this to 2TB (which of 400 gb is data). The gparted takes over 30 hours. Can I just stop it when it have moved 400 gb data to the left?
[10:46] <Baahtti> minimec, Should I have this modprobe at the top or bottom of /etc/modules file?
[10:46] <Rarrikins> Bhaktar: Is it still going or are you asking because you stopped it?
[10:46] <test23> ';,
[10:46] <[360]Developer> martinux: can you still see the mouse on your blank screen?
[10:47] <Bhaktar> rarrikins: It's still going on. I wish I'd resized my ext3 to 400 gb before resizing to 2TB
[10:47] <mattiag> I updated ubuntu to 13.10 and my notebook does not shutdown/reboot/suspend/hibernate properly as before. Is there a channel where I can ask for help or this one fits?
[10:47] <th0r> Baahtti: you don't add the modprobe, just the name of the module. And it usually goes at the bottom, but so long as it is on a line by itself it should work.
[10:48] <Baahtti> ah, thanks th0r
[10:48] <minimec> Baahtti: That should not matter. Per default I think you have 'lp' and 'rtc' in there. Just put it after these two lines.
[10:48] <Baahtti> modprobe is a command I'd run so that I won't need to restart?
[10:48] <BluesKaj> Bhaktar, gparted has to finish it's processes , there's more to do than just transfer data, if you stop that process it the data may be inaccessible i
[10:48] <test23> 1
[10:49] <test23> test
[10:49] <th0r> Baahtti: yes, modprobe installs a module from the command line. If the module is in that file it gets installed at boot
[10:49] <minimec> Baahtti: If you put 'v4l2loopback' in /etc/modules and reboot, you're good. Otherwise. 'modprobe v4l2loopback' in a terminal.
[10:50] <Rarrikins> Bhaktar: Is the hard drive light still going?
[10:50] <Baahtti> gotcha! I'm starting to get the hang of this. Eventually I'll understand what it is I'm doing
[10:50] <minimec> Baahtti: In the 2nd case, the /dev/videoX device is added 'after' the Webcam.
[10:51] <Baahtti> is gstreamer native to 13.04?
[10:51] <Bhaktar> Rarrikins: I have no problem really. Just that it's moving 1TB of non-data
[10:51] <minimec> Baahtti: Yes, but you need an additional package 'sudo apt-get omstall gstreamer-tools'
[10:51] <Bhaktar> and that it takes 24 more hours, it's already been going for 20 -__-
[10:51] <Baahtti> thanks
[10:54] <mattiag> (maybe #ubuntu+1)
[10:54] <Darky1> Ubuntu Server running Samba with ACL? Who of you guys got it working with Windows clients?
[10:55] <LucasCampos> Hey there. I'm trying to open a specific eps under evince, and it does not seem to work, if I have text
[10:56] <tokern3> hey
[10:56] <LucasCampos> I *can* see the miniature correctly, tough. I'm using Ubuntu 13.04, Evince 3.8.2
[10:58] <tokern3> i installes netbeans by 1-chmod 2-./netbeans....sh             it installed it successfully . but there is not any netbeans icon and when i write netbeans in terminal it say netbeans have not installed
[10:58] <tokern3> what the problem is?
[10:59] <[360]Developer> tokern3: go back to the install file and check what is the correct way to start it
[11:01] <[360]Developer> tokern3: I was able to start netbeans as sudo but not as normal user..
[11:02] <tokern3> [360]Developer:  there is nothing to describe correct way. the only thing i have is  netbeans-7.3-linux
[11:02] <tokern3> [360]Developer:  and i installed it as root. and i try to start it as root too.
[11:03] <bekks> Which is a very bad idea.
[11:03] <bekks> Install it as user, which wors without problems, and run it as user.
[11:03] <[360]Developer> tokern3: try running it in its root folder as root in terminal
[11:03] <bekks> Dont run netbeans as root.
[11:04] <[360]Developer> bekks: i always have problems with its plugin without root
[11:05] <bekks> Which doesnt turn running it as root into a sane idea :) Install the plugins as user, and you are fine.
[11:06] <[360]Developer> bekks: good idea, /profile
[11:06] <basiclaser> o hai
[11:07] <minimec> Baahtti: Still listening?
[11:08] <minimec> Baahtti: I am 'away' for about 10-15 minutes. Will be back to help you afterwards.
[11:13] <Baahtti> minimec, alright thanks for all the help. Yes I'm playing around with gst-launch right now, learning about how it's functioning. I'm wondering though...
[11:14] <Baahtti> so if I load up my video device using a program, like Skype, and then run a gst commandline to update that 'feed' by flipping the image...
[11:14] <Baahtti> I think I'm thinking about this wrong
[11:15] <Baahtti> I need to have a secondary 'streaming video source' that I can pipe to
[11:15] <Baahtti> so like, if I'm using Skype and want to suddenly flip my video stream
[11:16] <Baahtti> let's say I just tell skype to use my default webcam, and no other video device is mounted. so /dev/video0 is my onboard cam and it's currently streaming video to Skype...
[11:17] <cnu> hi ubuntu
[11:17] <Baahtti> can I have gst update that device's stream?
[11:17] <Baahtti> hi cnu
[11:17] <cnu> hi baahtti
[11:17] <cnu> what's up
[11:17] <Baahtti> learning a ton!
[11:17] <[FreeBSD]> f/q
[11:17] <[FreeBSD]> si =
[11:17] <Baahtti> trying to troubleshoot my upside down skype video problem
[11:17] <cnu> ohh.
[11:18] <Baahtti> so I'm using gstreamer to flip my video
[11:18] <cnu> i'm just learning this ubuntu thing.. :)
[11:18] <avi67> Hey guyz, can anyone tell, is their any way out to crack ubuntu luser login password..??
[11:18] <sienez> Hello. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 and I have a monitor without any buttons for alignment or screen width, position etc... The problem is that the screen is shifted to the right. Anyone know how to correct this? It only happens after the OS is booted (no matter whether windows or ubuntu)
[11:18] <cnu> hai sienez. it may be due to ur monitor settings
[11:19] <Baahtti> sienez, check to see if your monitor's drivers are up to date
[11:19] <Rarrikins> sienez: Are there knobs anywhere on the monitor (including on the back)?
[11:20] <Rarrikins> (or in an openable panel)
[11:20] <Baahtti> if you had two monitors, I'd suggest disabling the problem one and then re-enabling...
[11:20] <cnu> can any one explain me what is this XChat.. i mean any specials in it..
[11:20] <minimec> Baahtti: OK- I am back. Ready for some tests?
[11:20] <sienez> oh my, how embarrassing.. the buttons were indeed on the back
[11:20] <Baahtti> minimec, I have questions actually
[11:20] <sienez> thanks Rarrikins :)
[11:21] <Baahtti> minimec, I was playing around with gst-launch and figured out how to get the video stream to flip upside down
[11:21] <Rarrikins> cnu: You can type /join #xchat
[11:21] <minimec> Baahtti: Check this 'howto' I just posted ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/5722570/
[11:21] <Rarrikins> cnu: The topic message for #xchat has some useful URLs in it, and you can ask questions there.
[11:22] <Rarrikins> sienez: No problem.
[11:22] <avi67> Hey guyz, can anyone tell, is their any way out to crack ubuntu user login password..??
[11:22] <cnu> thanks <Rarrikins>
[11:22] <minimec> Baahtti: Cool. So you just have to modify my commanf line and replace "aspectratiocrop aspect-ratio=16/9" with your tuff, I guess.
[11:22] <Baahtti> hrm
[11:23] <handuel0> avi67: if you just want to reset a lost password there are easier ways of doing it. Actually cracking a password is  hard, and although programs do exist they only work for very weak passwords
[11:23] <marianne_> hi guys... running 12.04 64 bit... I'm wondering if someone can point me in the direction on how to update on board video drivers... I can't even seem to find commands to see what I have and it's version
[11:23] <handuel0> marianne_: have you tried launching the additional drivers GUI program?
[11:24] <Rarrikins> cnu: You're welcome.
[11:24] <cnu> join /hadoop
[11:24] <marianne_> handuel0: I do know that it
[11:25] <BluesKaj> marianne_, dkms status
[11:25] <marianne_> handuel0: I do know it's nvidia and when I loaded the OS I did load the specific drivers
[11:26] <cnu> how to know list of chat rooms available.. any idea?
[11:26] <Baahtti> alright well let me reboot I guess
[11:26] <DJones> !alis | cnu
[11:27] <phillyj> can someone help me determine what these temperature readings might correspond to?
[11:27] <marianne_> BluesKaj: it's installing now
[11:27] <phillyj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5722582/
[11:27] <gordonjcp> phillyj: bits inside the case, I assume
[11:27] <handuel0> marianne_ open up the dash, and try searching for additional drivers
[11:28] <phillyj> gordonjcp: nice one, smartypants
[11:28] <phillyj> actually, i'm trying to see if my hdd has a temp sensor on it
[11:28] <marianne_> handuel0: ok, opened and searching
[11:30] <marianne_> handuel0: well, crap... would I want to load version 173 with post release updates or go with the one marked recommended?
[11:30] <dipra> I want to download all sub-pages of a website for offline browsing; The link structure is like this one: http://Link.com/A/B/C/D/E/..., I need to download all pages after B (B is an index for its next pages), I should work on command line because of ssh.
[11:30] <handuel0> marianne_: depends, do you want to do really heavy weight gaming on it :D
[11:31] <bekks> dipra: Just use wget
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> dipra  http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/downloading-entire-web-site-wget
[11:31] <BluesKaj> marianne_, use the recommended driver, it's best for most applications and effects
[11:31] <histo> dipra: wget -m
[11:31] <marianne_> handuel0: medium amount of gaming, mostly video and
[11:32] <marianne_> streaming
[11:32] <dipra> wget?! let me read the link.
[11:32] <Bhaktar> Wonder why gparted don't auto-shrink a partition before expanding left
[11:32] <histo> dipra: I would use -mk  to mirror and fix the links
[11:33] <marianne_> BluesKaj: I'm only apprehensive because it just says "current version" but doean't give the version number or anything
[11:33] <Baahtti> minimec, I think the v4l2loopback driver isn't installed properly
[11:33] <ssh-server> hi, I need to set up ssh-server on a computer in a way that ONLY clients with the public key can access it, clients without public key shouldn't have access even if they have a correct username/password combination..
[11:33] <cnu> any sticky notes kind of application in ubuntu?
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> cnu  tomboy
[11:33] <histo> cnu: tomboy
[11:33] <cnu> oh thanks.
[11:33] <histo> ssh-server: then disable password based login
[11:34] <minimec> Baahtti: Do you have a dummy device in 'video', when you run 'gstreamer-properties'
[11:34] <histo> ssh-server: /etc/ssh/sshd_config <---- Edit this
[11:34] <BluesKaj> marianne_, don't fret the recommended current driver should work fine.
[11:34] <bekks> ssh-server: Enable key based auth, disable password based auth.
[11:34] <ssh-server> Great, thanks :)
[11:35] <Baahtti> heh, don't even have that package, just a sec
[11:35] <phillyj> gordonjcp: never mind; i figured it out
[11:35] <histo> ssh-server: make sure key based auth works before disabling password auth
[11:35] <gordonjcp> phillyj: you want hdparm I think
[11:35] <marianne_> BluesKaj: yeah... it's downloading now... under it there is one that says post release update and version current updates. Should I load that after the first one is done
[11:35] <ssh-server> Sure thing, histo :)
[11:36] <phillyj> gordonjcp: i used hddtemp
[11:37] <Baahtti> minimec hrm, ok so gstreamer-properties showed me only the 'default' and 'webcam 2.0' items...
[11:37] <BluesKaj> marianne_, just run the updates/upgrades after rebooting as you would normally and let the driver install as is.
[11:37] <gordonjcp> phillyj: aha, perfect
[11:37] <Baahtti> minimec I think I need to pipe my video0 to v4l2src
[11:38] <minimec> Baahtti: 'sudo modprobe v4l2loopback', just to be sure, that the module is loaded...
[11:38] <Baahtti> minimec, gstreamer-properties gave me an option to 'test' the v4l2src pipeline and that worked
[11:38] <cnu> Which one is better? Tomboy or Xpad
[11:38] <handuel0> marianne_: sorry I took time. I'd just use the recommended ones then, the latest ones can cause trouble
[11:38] <Baahtti> minimec, module v4l2loopback not found
[11:39] <Baahtti> minimec and when I do apt-get v4l2loopback-source it's already installed
[11:39] <minimec> Baahtti: OK. I'll be right back...
[11:39] <Baahtti> minimec, I think the error is in how we're invoking the driver
[11:41] <minimec> Baahtti: What version of ubuntu are you on. I use 12.04 here, and my pipe is working...
[11:41] <Baahtti> minimec, I'm on 13.04
[11:41] <jjosh> whois jjosh
[11:41] <jjosh> sorry!
[11:41] <Baahtti> minimec, so I think the 'dummy device' is actually: v4l2src
[11:42] <Baahtti> but I'm only seeing the one /dev/video0
[11:42] <marianne__> handuel0: thanks.... rebooted and better already
[11:42] <minimec> Baahtti: Ok. Maybe they changed something again... Let me boot my 13.04 laptop and see...
[11:42] <marianne__> BluesKaj: thanks, better already
[11:42] <handuel0> marianne_: great. Glad I could help
[11:43] <BluesKaj> marianne__, good to hear :)
[11:45] <AlbertoM> hello can anybody help me to install the latest version from chromium browser  i see in ubuntu 12 only are availble the 25 version i want to use the last stable version
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> AlbertoM  if it's not in the repos, you need a PPA, but that's not supported here
[11:46] <bekks> AlbertoM: Then just download the .deb from Google, and install it - I guess the have a PPA for it.
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> !latest
[11:47] <AlbertoM> i try to install via ppa but i can not
[11:47] <marianne__> ok, another strange question... how do I know if the video card supports just analog or if it can do digital?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> AlbertoM  contact the maintainer of the ppa
[11:50] <phillyj> hmm, fdisk tells me "doesn't contain a valid partition table"
[11:50] <phillyj> is something corrupted?
[11:50] <minimec> Baahtti: We are really not lucky. Looka that there is a bug in 13.04... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/v4l2loopback/+bug/1112644
[11:51] <Baahtti> hrm
[11:51] <minimec> Baahtti: And again here... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/v4l2loopback/+bug/1184444
[11:51] <Baahtti> well we're still on the right track though
[11:51] <Baahtti> we just need a different virtual video driver
[11:53] <Guest66019> hey
[11:54] <AlbertoM> ok i go to chromium stable chanel they say  i have to add this ppa sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/stable i add this and affter i go to sudo apt-get updates and i try to install chromium and install the same old version
[11:54] <basiclaser> hey guys, I'd like to install the latest Tor, which I have already downloaded. It says on the site just decompress it and run it, but when i unzip it i just see a bunch of folders. How do i 'run' it?
[11:54] <AlbertoM> i dont know what to do
[11:55] <minimec> Baahtti: I know, that we are on the right track, but we need that v4l2loopback... I use 12.04 with a 3.5 kernel here. That is working...
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> AlbertoM  ppa's are not supported, you're on your own
[11:55] <Baahtti> minimec, hrm.
[11:55] <AlbertoM> ok i understand
[11:55] <Baahtti> minimec, I wonder if I tried to build it myself
[11:56] <minimec> Baahtti: You could try to use some newer kernel like v3.9-raring something or a v3.7-raring from here for a try. see in only the 3.8 kernels are buggy with v4l2loopback http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[11:56] <Guest66019> minimec, I wonder if I tried to build it myself
[11:56] <Guest66019> minimec, I wonder if I tried to build it myself
[11:57] <minimec> Guest66019: Yeah. You could try that.
[11:57] <minimec> Baahtti: Yeah. You could try that.
[11:58] <Baahtti> ugh, I don't want to change kernal versions quite yet
[11:58] <minimec> Baahtti: I can understand that, even though you can always remove them afterwards. You would also need the kernel-headers by the way.
[12:00] <phillyj> basiclaser: i think you have to compile it
[12:01] <phillyj> basiclaser: in ubuntu, you can use apt-get to do it for you
[12:01] <Baahtti> ugggg
[12:02] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[12:02] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[12:02] <Znoosey> "The upgrade needs a total of 26.0 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 5,126 k of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'."
[12:03] <Campfire> lets fire it up
[12:03] <Znoosey> anyone know how i can fix this?
[12:03] <Znoosey> as sudo apt-get clean doesn't fix it
[12:03] <Baahtti> minimec, are there any other alternatives to v4l2loopback?
[12:03] <Campfire> warmth
[12:04] <minimec> Baahtti: Well I don't know. I never looked for an alternative, as I have a working solution...
[12:06] <Guest53314> Where would I get to see the code that runs the Floodbot?
[12:06] <Guest53314> anybodym know
[12:08] <martinux> hi! I'm on ubuntu 13.04 and my laptop wont wake up properly from pm-suspend. How can i diagnose and fix this?
[12:08] <dipra> histo: wget -mk http://wiki.linuxreview.ir/LPI-101 => the downloaded pages are different to the main pages -> no css and theme
[12:10] <[360]Developer> martinux: when you say it doesnt wake up correctly what do you see?
[12:11] <martinux> [360]Developer: It 'wakes' up (starts running), but the screen is black and I can't do anything but reboot. And I am unable to suspend it again (with lid-close) once this has happened.
[12:12] <[360]Developer> martinux: can you see the mouse pointer?
[12:12] <martinux> no
[12:12] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[12:12] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[12:13] <[360]Developer> martinux: do you currently have any external devices connected like modems, usb mouse, usb harddrive?
[12:13] <martinux> [360]Developer: no
[12:13] <martinux> [360]Developer: just my AC
[12:15] <[360]Developer> martinux: i have found that i have that problem in two cases either when i have my usb dongle h-modem connected or i closed my laptops lid while i had an application in full screen, did you have any of these problems?
[12:16] <martinux> no
[12:16] <martinux> Though I am on i3wm, so before I waste any of your time I will log into Unity and try it there.
[12:17] <[360]Developer> martinux: ok, do you use a login screen?
[12:17] <cnu> tomboy or Xpad - for sticky notes..
[12:17] <Guest66019> no
[12:17] <Guest66019> you no spk ?
[12:17] <Guest66019> ok ?
[12:19] <Deepfriedice> martinux, Can you post /var/log/syslog.1 after rebooting from frozen?
[12:20] <[360]Developer> Deepfriedice: he's not seeing the mouse pointer so startx problem, maybe related to a driver
[12:20] <Deepfriedice> Okay.
[12:22] <martinux> [360]Developer: hi. I got the same issue in Unity as well.
[12:23] <Baahtti> minimec, Is there a walkthrough on the web somewhere for updating a kernel?
[12:23] <[360]Developer> martinux: check  Deepfriedice: pre post
[12:24] <minimec> Baahtti: Good news! It's running here on 13.04!
[12:24] <Deepfriedice> [360]Developer, what?
[12:24] <martinux> [360]Developer: check what?
[12:24] <Baahtti> minimec, oh?
[12:24] <minimec> Baahtti: Ok take the sources form here https://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback
[12:24] <[360]Developer> martinux: Can you post /var/log/syslog.1 after rebooting from frozen?
[12:25] <martinux> [360]Developer: Sure thing.
[12:25] <minimec> Baahtti: Compile it --> 'make' 'make-install'. It works here...
[12:26] <minimec> Baahtti: Kernel <IP_ADDRESS> 13.04
[12:26] <Baahtti> minimec, alright, let me give it a shot
[12:28] <minimec> Baahtti: 'git clone https://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback.git', 'cd v4l2loopback', 'make', 'sudo make install' ...
[12:29] <martinux_> [360]Developer: there is only 1 syslog in /var/log and it is called 'syslog', not 'syslog.1'
[12:30] <Tetog> hi
[12:30] <Tetog> help plesae
[12:30] <ubuntu-boy> huhu
[12:30] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[12:30] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[12:31] <iPenguin>  Hi, I am downloading ubuntu mini.iso but for some reason it has been stuck on 6 minuites of download left for ages. Does anyone know what the problem is?
[12:31] <ubuntu-boy> so sad :(
[12:31] <Tetog> What deveoper network the bestest? I need found developers for open project.
[12:31] <ubuntu-boy> use new ubuntu 13.04
[12:33] <ubuntu-boy> everybody home?hehe
[12:33] <iPenguin> Yes i am ubuntu-boy lol
[12:33] <Baahtti> minimec, ok got my dummy video, gonna reboot and see what's up
[12:34] <Tetog> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!
[12:34] <ubuntu-boy> anybody help me teach how to hack wifi wpa2?
[12:34] <iPenguin> hacking isnt nessary ubuntu-boy,could get you into trouble.
[12:35] <Eagleman> Tetog this channel is for ubuntu support, not for deveoper network bestest whatever that might be
[12:35] <musca> Tetog: You don't need to shout. We are all waiting for more info.
[12:35] <ubuntu-boy> i mean use backtrack 5 R3
[12:35] <Malakbal> yo
[12:35] <mucha090> hi
[12:36] <ubuntu-boy> all tutuorial at website or youtube just for,not real
[12:36] <docmur> I'm transfering files to my server over wireless and I'm getting 270 KB/s,  The server is sitting 7 feet behind me and it's wired into my router, my computer is connected wirelessly to the router.  Any ideas why that is so slow
[12:37] <iPenguin> If i download the normal ubuntu it takes 18 hours.
[12:37] <ubuntu-boy> download use flare get
[12:38] <ubuntu-boy> cpeed downloader
[12:38] <iPenguin> ubuntu-boy: was you talking to me or someone else?
[12:38] <ubuntu-boy> haha
[12:38] <pr0n> how can i install i3 window manager in my UBUNTU 12.04.2
[12:39] <martinux_> pr0n: I think apt-get install i3-wm should work
[12:39] <ubuntu-boy> u can read who need answer,me and u talk about wpa2 and whit him about downloader
[12:39] <martinux_> My laptop wont wake up properly from suspend; it wakes up (fans start running), the screen turns all black and I am forced to reboot. How can I diagnose and fix this?
[12:39] <pr0n> martinux_: and will i lose my unity side dock?
[12:40] <martinux_> ubuntu 13.04 by the way
[12:40] <ubuntu-boy> im using ubuntu 13.04
[12:40] <ubuntu-boy> not bad
[12:40] <martinux_> pr0n: You will not lose anything. But the side dock is not present once you are using i3wm
[12:41] <mucha090> who use kde?
[12:41] <mucha090> because i have issue
[12:41] <ubuntu-boy> so martinux: how toget password from wpa2 whit pyrit?do know?
[12:41] <pr0n> ohk thank you, and how will i be able to access my documents folder in a gui fashion? will it still be avaiable.. sry havent user i3 bfore
[12:42] <martinux_> pr0n: I'm not sure. If you want a gui fashion I don't know if i3wm is what you want.
[12:42] <ubuntu-boy> pron: u have updated ur ubuntu before use?
[12:43] <pr0n> ubuntu-boy: yes
[12:44] <ubuntu-boy> i thing the u must use new ubuntu.
[12:45] <ubuntu-boy> same my laptop also many problem before i use ubuntu 13.04
[12:45] <mucha090> so when i use quassel irc or kadu im and someone will send me link to web page
[12:45] <mucha090> and when i click on taht link kde will download it and open in web browser
[12:45] <mucha090> and how to disable it?
[12:45] <bekks> Thats expected.
[12:46] <bekks> mucha090: Dont click then.
[12:46] <mucha090> bekks: nah, so then you dont have solution how to disable it?
[12:46] <mucha090> and you understand what i type?
[12:47] <bekks> mucha090: I do understand what you type. If you dont want a link to open when you clkick it - dont click it :)
[12:47] <fogil> is secure boot and uefi two diffrent things?
[12:48] <bekks> fogil: Secure boot is part of the uefi implementation.
[12:48] <Baahtti> minimec, ok, I got it built. I have /dev/video0 and /dev/video1. Your code runs fine but I have questions about that specific code after...
[12:49] <mucha090> bekks: but the point is, before kde open that link it download to hdd and then it open from location /var/kdecache
[12:49] <minimec> Baahtti: Cool ;)
[12:49] <Baahtti> minimec, When I go to skype now and select the 'dummy device' it's just a black video though, even when gstreamer-properties is testing the dummy video and showing the video being piped through just fine
[12:50] <fogil> bekks: can i get ubuntu to work with uefi?
[12:50] <minimec> Baahtti: probably the 'aspectratiocrop aspect-ratio=16/9 !'. Delete that. Maybe skype wants 4:3
[12:51] <martinux_> My laptop wont wake up properly from suspend; it wakes up (fans start running), the screen turns all black and I am forced to reboot. How can I diagnose and fix this?
[12:51] <bekks> fogil: Sure.
[12:51] <bekks> fogil: Most likely you have to disable UEFI secure boot, to be able to boot something else rather than your windows.
[12:51] <Baahtti> minimec, about all those settings in your line of code. Why can't I just do: gst-launch v4l2src device=/dev/video1 ! v4l2sink device=/dev/video0
[12:52] <bekks> mucha090: And why is it a problem if the content is cached on your harddisk?
[12:53] <Thedevil1234> I am using a proxy server. Do I have to configure software center for it? If yes then how?
[12:53] <minimec> Baahtti: you can leave out 'width' 'height' 'framerate'
[12:53] <Guest53314> does anyone here know a good website/page that explains how to setup ubuntu phone on a ASUS transformer?
[12:53] <mucha090> bekks: because i dont like it, and do you know how to disable it?
[12:53] <fogil> bekks: i dont have windows installed and seure boot is disabled
[12:54] <minimec> Baahtti: as I told before also "aspectratiocrop aspect-ratio=16/9"
[12:54] <bekks> mucha090: I guess you have to live with it then.
[12:54] <DJones> !touch | Guest53314 You're more likely to get assistance here,
[12:54] <primitive> anyone know if i can format a drive with a recovery partition that has a grub rescue error and i will get a clean drive again
[12:54] <bekks> fogil: Then, there is no problem. :)
[12:54] <iPenguin> Can anyone recommend me any ubuntu operating systems which does not take ages and ages to download, has faster peformance etc.
[12:54] <bekks> iPenguin: "Ubuntu".
[12:54] <iPenguin> That takes ages bekks
[12:54] <bekks> iPenguin: Here, it doesnt.
[12:55] <iPenguin> 18 hours is a very long time.
[12:55] <dichotoPangea> Does anyone know anything about recording audio with ffmpeg?
[12:55] <bekks> iPenguin: 18 hours for what? Booting? Then you have a hardware issue.
[12:55] <iPenguin> bekks: to download
[12:55] <fogil> bekks: i try to boot ubuntu in uefi  but there arent any uefi chioce for the cd
[12:56] <bekks> iPenguin: You download it once. Not every day. :)
[12:56] <Thedevil1234> I am using a proxy server. Someone help me configure software center for it.
[12:56] <bekks> fogil: Then you have to reead up the manual of your computer/mmainboard on how to boot a cd.
[12:56] <primitive> anyone see my statement above?
[12:56] <minimec> Baahtti: gst-launch v4l2src device=/dev/video1 ! video/x-raw-yuv ! ffmpegcolorspace ! v4l2sink device=/dev/video0 sync=false
[12:56] <scarface> Hi, I'm trying to do a large backup between two computers on my LAN.  They are both connected with Gigabit ethernet, but the transfer speed is slow, about 8 MB/s (64 Mb/s).  I'd expect a lot faster, and I suspect that SSH encryption is slowing me down.  What's the easiest option to set up unencrypted file sharing, temporarily?
[12:57] <bekks> primitive: That will delete everything on the drive. Even the recovery.
[12:57] <bekks> scarface: Which protocol do you use for transferring data?
[12:57] <marianne> I just want to thank all the guys out there that help us newbies get things going properly! this morning I fixed all my video issues and now I don't have to buy a new monitor... major props guys!
[12:57] <primitive> will i be able to load linux back to it with a cd/dvd
[12:57] <Baahtti> minimec, yeah, tried that, still not working in skype :-/
[12:57] <bekks> primitive: Yes.
[12:57] <scarface> bekks: I'm using SSH now (scp)
[12:58] <bekks> scarface: Thats pretty slow. Use rsync or ftp.
[12:58] <primitive> how do i accomplish it
[12:58] <bekks> primitive: Boot the cd, install. :)
[12:58] <scarface> bekks: Doesn't rsync still go over SSH?
[12:58] <bekks> scarface: No.
[12:59] <primitive> can you recommend a way to just format everything but partition with recovery
[12:59] <dichotoPangea> I'm recording in .flv, and every time I change the bitrate to one of the suggested ones, it just tells be to switch to one of the suggested ones, even though I have.
[12:59] <bekks> primitive: No, I cant. :)
[12:59] <bekks> primitive: Backup everything. :)
[13:00] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[13:00] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[13:00] <primitive> i can't find a way to boot a disc to redo boot or grub rescue.  is there a way to do it by text only , no devices
[13:01] <minimec> Baahtti: Ok. That is strange. I have a logitech WebCam Sphere here on 12.04, and skype shows my 'dummy device'.
[13:01] <Baahtti> minimec, I'm wondering if it's because the device is 'busy'
[13:01] <JohnThePreacher> Repent now! For The Kingdom of Heaven is at HAND!
[13:02] <Eagleman> ow god
[13:02] <JohnThePreacher> !ops | Repent now! For The Kingdom of Heaven is at HAND!
[13:02] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea, why flv , there are better formats
[13:02] <iPenguin> Are you sure it takes this long? http://prntscr.com/17q0v0 O.o
[13:02] <DJones> JohnThePreacher: Stop that
[13:02] <primitive> i didn't get last statement someone sent
[13:02] <fogil> dont have any manual :s
[13:03] <minimec> Baahtti: Also tested now on 13.04 with the integrated Lenovo Webcam. Working like charm here.
[13:03] <dichotoPangea> BluesKaj: .flv is the only format I know how to use ffmpeg with, and I can just reencode. :/
[13:03] <JohnThePreacher> DJones,  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
[13:03] <Baahtti> minimec, ok so, let me try and restart skype real quick I guess
[13:03] <primitive> you are either God's or your not
[13:04] <[360]Developer> JohnThePreacher:  end1;
[13:04] <minimec> Baahtti: You can check and maybe change 'video/x-raw-yuv'...
[13:04] <iPenguin> Baahtti: if it doesn't work then i recommend imo.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea, try mpeg  or avi ...ffmpeg can handle those as well ,and the quality is better after conversion
[13:04] <robotdevil> so when you use unity-tweak to make the window controls move from left to right this only partially works?
[13:04] <Konvicted> how do i fix this "connection failed with error: Address family not supported by protocol"
[13:05] <robotdevil> max windows have on the left still and so does dash
[13:05] <dichotoPangea> BluesKaj: Do you know a command, or somewhere I can learn one, to record in .avi (the format I really want) with audio?
[13:05] <primitive> the recovery partition will not boot and that is all the recovery help i have.  i really don't have any outstanding files to keep
[13:05] <Konvicted> how do i fix this "connection failed with error: Address family not supported by protocol"
[13:06] <Baahtti> iPenguin, imo allows skype accounts with voip and video?
[13:08] <Baahtti> I wish I got some sort of feedback as to why Skype doesn't want to receive the video stream
[13:08] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea, avi records audio in mp3 format and  afaik it's default
[13:09] <dichotoPangea> BluesKaj: This is what I have now: ffmpeg -y -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1366x768 -i :0.0 -f alsa -i plughw:2,0 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 44100 -sameq /tmp/vagrantIPsoftClientAutomation.flv
[13:09] <scarface> bekks: The reason that I thought rsync went over SSH is because I only have port 22 open in the firewall, and the rsync is working.  I thought that meant that rsync was riding over SSH.
[13:09] <bekks> primitive: Please keep it in this channel. If you want to be able to use your recovery partition, you would need to back up the entire disk.
[13:10] <bekks> scarface: Then you have no other choice than using ssh - and you have to wait.
[13:10] <primitive> sorry
[13:10] <scarface> bekks: So you're suggesting that if I open another port for a dedicated rsync daemon that it would be faster?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea, change the file extn .flv to .mpeg
[13:11] <primitive> thanks for the help
[13:11] <BluesKaj> or avi , dichotoPangea
[13:11] <bekks> scarface: Yes.
[13:12] <dichotoPangea> BluesKaj: Thanks, that works.
[13:14] <Baahtti> minimec, maybe it is the process of utilizing this mod that I am doing wrong
[13:14] <Baahtti> minimec, also, cheese doesn't seem to pick up on the fact that I have two video modules
[13:14] <minimec> Baahtti: What kind og webcam do you have.
[13:15] <Baahtti> minimec, generic USB 2.0 WebCam
[13:16] <Konvicted> i cannot make outgoing data calls  "i get this Address family not supported by protoco"
[13:16] <minimec> Baahtti: Can you give me the exact specs with 'lsusb'? Like "Bus 006 Device 004: ID 046d:0994 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Orbit/Sphere AF"
[13:16] <Baahtti> if I do: cheese --device=/dev/video0 cheese starts up using video1
[13:17] <Baahtti> minimec, let me paste you the output of that
[13:19] <Turtle_> Hey guys, got a weird problem with LS not displaying any files in /usr/local/sbin (amongst other dirs) over SSH is anyone free to give us a hand?
[13:19] <minimec> Baahtti: I can confirm, that cheese is not working. The reason is probably, that 'cheese' does something similar, when using effects...
[13:19] <robotdevil> so there is no way to get the window controls (min,max,close)to the right hand side for MAXIMIZED windows in unity?
[13:20] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: ah there is
[13:20] <Turtle_> and intact not just over SSH, i've just VNC'd in and its the same issue, no files showing with an ls -la
[13:20] <Dickface> BluesKaj: Video is perfect, but I'm not getting any audio in the video.
[13:20] <robotdevil> ok listening
[13:20] <dichotoPangea2> BluesKaj: Video is perfect, but I'm not getting any audio in the video.
[13:21] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right
[13:21] <XHEART24> Hi everyone, i need to make my old ubuntu PC wireless and I as wondering if this will work for me http://dx.com/p/ultra-mini-nano-usb-2-0-802-11n-150mbps-wifi-wlan-wireless-network-adapter-48166
[13:21] <BluesKaj> do you have the lame plugin , I noticed you were using that , dichotoPangea2
[13:21] <martinux> hoy [360]Developer You dissapeared earlier :)
[13:21] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[13:21] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[13:22] <Benkinooby> hi, anyone has experience with blink messenger? http://icanblink.com is it worth to llk into it?
[13:22] <Baahtti> my webcam's model is literally, "VGA web camera"
[13:22] <[360]Developer> martinux: yea sorry had the girlfriend on my case
[13:22] <martinux> [360]Developer: no worries
[13:23] <dichotoPangea2> BluesKaj: The lame package is installed on my system, I don't know if you mean a different package.
[13:23] <robotdevil> [360]Developer: I was looking at that page but might have interpreted the part half way down where it says Note that this will only change the position of the window controls of non-maximized windows. The maximized windows will continue to have their window controls on the left in title bar.
[13:23] <robotdevil> as the same command
[13:23] <martinux> [360]Developer: I was telling you that I have no 'syslog.1' which you requested. Do you want my /var/log/syslog in stead?
[13:23] <robotdevil> will try it out
[13:23] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea2, which player ?
[13:23] <dichotoPangea2> VLC.
[13:24] <[360]Developer> martinux: type "vi /var/log/syslog.1 "
[13:24] <XHEART24> Ubuntu 12.04 works ok with wireless?
[13:24] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: It should; have a problem?
[13:24] <[360]Developer> martinux: without the comma's
[13:24] <martinux> [360]Developer: [new file]
[13:24] <XHEART24> will this work with Ubuntu 12.04 > http://dx.com/p/ultra-mini-nano-usb-2-0-802-11n-150mbps-wifi-wlan-wireless-network-adapter-48166
[13:24] <BluesKaj> right click on the screen while the audio is playing and choose audio and then the track that works
[13:25] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea2, ^
[13:25] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: Try connecting using a Live image.
[13:25] <BluesKaj> err the video rather
[13:25] <martinux> I did see that file in there before. But not since I installed 13.04
[13:25] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: from a programming aspect there should be a config to change this
[13:25] <XHEART24> Live image? i am not familiar
[13:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !live | XHEART24
[13:26] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: It's actually a Live DVD these days
[13:26] <XHEART24> my old pc now has fully installed ubuntu 12.04
[13:26] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: You can also try it from a USB stick
[13:26] <[360]Developer> martinux: i have tested with "sudo vi /var/log/syslog.1"
[13:27] <martinux> sudo vi /var/log/syslog.1
[13:27] <XHEART24> but i am not sure if it will recognize the driver for that wifi device i was planing to buy,
[13:27] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: Oh. Have you tried using the network menu to connect?
[13:27] <martinux> ups
[13:27] <[360]Developer> martinux: this will be a complete sys log
[13:27] <dichotoPangea2> BluesKaj: Right-click --> Audio --> Audio track, the only options are 'Track 1' and 'Disable'.
[13:27] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: Oh. Try Googling it maybe... I dunno
[13:27] <martinux> [360]Developer: seriously, the file is not present. Just syslog, without the .1
[13:27] <XHEART24> i have not purchased the device yet but in some reviews it has it has a bit of problem with Linux
[13:27] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: Which kinds of Linux?
[13:28] <robotdevil> [360]Developer: so those options are there for 13.04
[13:28] <robotdevil> [360]Developer: arent*
[13:28] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea2, do other media files have audio working ?
[13:28] <XHEART24> do not know exactly, the person that wrote the review did not go to deep
[13:28] <[360]Developer> martinux: is it empty?
[13:28] <martinux> [360]Developer: It does not exist. Vi opens a new file
[13:29] <martinux> [360]Developer: I have searched the folder, and syslog is the only syslog present
[13:29] <[360]Developer> robotdevil:  have you had a look at the unity tweak utility?
[13:29] <caleress> hey guys just installed ubuntu but i dont see any "Additional drivers" for my nvidia gefore gt 650m ... iirc this is susposed to show up by itself ?
[13:29] <dichotoPangea2> BluesKaj: Yes, they do.
[13:30] <[360]Developer> martinux: ok whats your version of ubuntu?
[13:30] <martinux> [360]Developer: 13.04
[13:30] <robotdevil> [360]Developer: yes it only moves them to right for unmaximized windows
[13:30] <BluesKaj> dichotoPangea2, do they have lame encoding as well ?
[13:30] <SonikkuAmerica> XHEART24: It looks like it might, only real way to know is to buy it, stick it in the drive and see.
[13:31] <dichotoPangea2> BluesKaj: It wasn't one I had recorded, this is my first attemp at successful ffmpeg audio recording. But it did play audio in vlc.
[13:31] <anthony_> !list
[13:31] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: i can only suggest to find someone that has written a custom script for this
[13:31] <[360]Developer>  martinux: let me just find out where they have moved this in the new version
[13:32] <caleress> do i need to install them manually ?
[13:32] <martinux> [360]Developer: sure thing
[13:38] <robotdevil> [360]Developer: is compiz installed by default and could ccsm maybe help me?
[13:39] <aLeSD> hi all
[13:39] <aLeSD> I can't play mp4 files: they stops at the first frame ... but I can hear the audio
[13:40] <aLeSD> someone got the same prob ?
[13:40] <martinux> aLeSD: what player are you using?
[13:40] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: compiz is required by unity, I'm sure on ccsm you will need to give it a go and see if it has the options you looking for
[13:40] <aLeSD> vlc and the xubuntu default one
[13:41] <robotdevil> ok
[13:41] <[360]Developer> robotdevil: not*
[13:41] <martinux> aLeSD: and this happens in both? Did you try different mp4 files?
[13:41] <aLeSD> yes 2 mp4 files and I have the same behaviour
[13:41] <aLeSD> same frames then video stops
[13:42] <martinux> aLeSD: if the mp4 files are not from the same origin, I don't know what could be causing it.
[13:42] <aLeSD> maybe it's my cpu
[13:43] <betrayd> aLeSO try launching vlc in terminal to watch for messages
[13:45] <aLeSD> [0x83393c0] avcodec decoder error: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?)
[13:45] <aLeSD> shit!!!!!
[13:45] <dopie> how do i go in a secret directory and edit a file?
[13:45] <aLeSD> holy shit !
[13:45] <dopie> like ,git
[13:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !wtf | aLeSD
[13:46] <aLeSD> sorry !
[13:46] <bekks> dopie: Like always: cd .git
[13:46] <dopie> yes cd .git
[13:46] <dopie> now i have to edit a file there
[13:46] <dopie> how would i do that?
[13:46] <bekks> dopie: nano -w filename
[13:46] <betrayd> aLeSO now in the GUI see if there are options like framedrop to play the video differently
[13:47] <mucha090> bekks: firefox package have issue in quantal-updates repo
[13:47] <mucha090> when i added firefox %u in default-apps in kde
[13:47] <mucha090> just after that i had no issue with caching urls
[13:48] <harris> happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, happy birthday to harris, happy birthday to me
[13:48] <Eagleman> I am using owncloud so i can access my files from the internet, i want to ( 2 way ) synchronise files between 2 local folders ( owncloud and samba ) however i am having problems achieveing that since the owner of those 2 folders are different, owncloud needs www-data:www-data and my samba folder has user:user, owncloud isnt able to access the samba folder becuase of the rights, is there an
[13:48] <Eagleman> synchronisation tool out there that can also change the owner of a file?
[13:48] <betrayd> harris now make a wish
[13:48] <harris> i did
[13:49] <harris> present time
[13:49] <harris> what did you guys get me
[13:49] <DJones> harris: You know this channel isn't the right place for that
[13:49] <harris> :(
[13:49] <blazemore> !offtopic | harris
[13:50] <bekks> mucha090: Different browsers have a different behaviour.
[13:50] <mucha090> yep but my friend dont have that issue, and he dont give %u
[13:53] <SonikkuAmerica> mucha090: He doesn't give his username?
[13:53] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[13:53] <bekks> SonikkuAmerica: The parameter "%u" for firefox has nothing to do with an username. It refers to the URL provided.
[13:54] <mucha090> nah
[13:54] <SonikkuAmerica> bekks: Ahh... the Firefox one. I use Chromium. XD
[13:54] <xixi> test
[13:55] <xixi> test
[13:55] <SonikkuAmerica> xixi: You're good. ()
[13:55] <SonikkuAmerica> xixi: Next time try /msg ubottu !ping
[13:55] <seronis> Eagleman: cant you use the 'group' settings to take care of that so both folders are in the same group
[13:56] <Snype> !ping
[13:56] <Snype> lol
[13:56] <Snype> !ping
[13:56] <Snype> !ping
[13:56] <FloodBot1> Snype: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <betrayd> yeah don't do that wesley
[13:57] <Snype> !ping
[13:57] <Snype> it only pings once?
[13:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Snype: Once every ~20 seconds
[13:57] <SonikkuAmerica> But we're getting !ot
[13:57] <Snype> where is the use?
[13:57] <Snype> !ot
[13:57] <Snype> how is the ping command helpful?
[13:58] <seronis> by demonstrating who we use   /ignore<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on
[13:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Or, in serious cases, calling the !ops
[13:59] <SonikkuAmerica> !DANGER
[13:59] <nabblet> hi, what's currently the most usable itunes alternative in ubuntu?
[13:59] <SonikkuAmerica> (Except in a channel emergency)
[13:59] <[360]Developer> martinux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/287833/screen-suspend-problem-on-ubuntu-13-04
[14:00] <SonikkuAmerica> nabblet: Hmm... If you need access to your iTunes songs, etc., try using iCloud; otherwise, get gtkpod maybe
[14:01] <martinux> [360]Developer: I will try that soon :) Thanks for taking the time to search!
[14:01] <nabblet> SonikkuAmerica: hm,dunno... i have to setup a laptop for my sister and i know she has an ipod and uses itunes. dunno if she uses icloud... what about rythombox, amarok and so on... don't they have ipod capabilities?
[14:02] <SonikkuAmerica> nabblet: They might, but gtkpod was built for iOS device sync in partic
[14:02] <nabblet> SonikkuAmerica: but that gtkpod looks good
[14:02] <[360]Developer> martinux: anytime just let me know if it works
[14:03] <martinux> [360]Developer: I will, just gotta win this chess match
[14:03] <nabblet> SonikkuAmerica: i think i will put on gtksyn - she still has her old vista (*yuk*) laptop with itunes (*eeew*) on it in case gtkpod does not work
[14:04] <SonikkuAmerica> nabblet: (eew is right. :P) OK
[14:04] <bekks> nabblet: Without itunes, it isnt possible to sync the apps, nor to update IOS.
[14:04] <nabblet> bekks: ipod has apps?
[14:05] <nabblet> bekks: oh, srry, i should have set my question more specific
[14:05] <sienez> how can I make an (older) kernel version available for grub? I have it /lib/modules, as I installed from a deb package, but when I reboot, it's not available for select
[14:05] <nabblet> bekks: SonikkuAmerica my sister has only an ipOd, NO ipAd
[14:06] <Eagleman> seronis, but when some one places a file in owncloud, the user and group becomes www-data:www-datya
[14:07] <zykotick9> sienez: did you try running "sudo update-grub" to see if it's automajically added?
[14:07] <SonikkuAmerica> nabblet: iTunes won't even run under Wine these days...
[14:08] <nabblet> SonikkuAmerica: to be honest - i have no intention to give her itunes on this laptop :P
[14:09] <nabblet> SonikkuAmerica: also, i already had my small victory - she said she doesn't need skype anymore, and will jitsi instead :D (because it can do facebook :P )
[14:09] <martinux> [360]Developer: Just FYI. I g2g but if you're still here when I get back I will tell you if it worked or not. Thanks again!
[14:09] <[360]Developer> martinux: no stress thx man
[14:10] <sienez> zykotick9, thanks, I did now, but still missing my kernel
[14:11] <sienez> although the output from update grub mentioned it
[14:11] <betrayd> nabblet does jitsi also provide cam function?
[14:11] <sienez> I'm on 12.04 btw
[14:12] <zykotick9> sienez: if you saw it mentioned in update-grub, it _should_ be there?  do you have more then 1 gnu/linux installs on this box?
[14:12] <nabblet> betrayd: yes! i jjust tested it
[14:12] <nabblet> betrayd: that thing can do SIP and jingel too
[14:12] <betrayd> nabblet thanks for the heads up
[14:12] <sienez> zykotick9, no. I have dualboot ubuntu and win7. When I ran update-grub all kernel versions were mentioned and even the win7 partition
[14:12] <minixvm> sienez: older kernels are under a submenu in grub
[14:12] <nabblet> betrayd: to be honest i was surprised how good it works - it has even share desktop
[14:13] <sienez> minixvm, yes, I noticed but it's not there either
[14:13] <sienez> maybe I missed something when I installed the kernel?
[14:14] <sienez> I downloaded a deb from ubuntuupdates page and simply ran it
[14:14] <minixvm> sienez: only the kernels in the official repos are supported here, downloading debs is not recommended
[14:16] <sienez> minixvm, so how can I download a specific kernel version from the reps? In synaptic I could not find it
[14:16] <minixvm> sienez: are you sure the version you want is in the repos?
[14:17] <minixvm> sienez: the latest kernel is 3.8 in the repos
[14:17] <sienez> Yes because on another machine it was installed with automatic updates
[14:17] <sienez> I want 3.5.30, but I have 3.5.32
[14:17] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[14:18] <sienez> ah sorry. <IP_ADDRESS> it is
[14:18] <minixvm> sienez: the repos will only hold the latest of whatever package there is
[14:18] <pr0ph3t> anyone else having problems with Ubuntu 13.04 64bit aptitude full-upgrade? Is it Empathy finally being fixed?
[14:19] <sienez> minixvm, ok this means I have to rely on debs from other sources, no?
[14:19] <SonikkuAmerica> pr0ph3t: Release upgrading?
[14:19] <SonikkuAmerica> pr0ph3t: How did you try to run it?
[14:19] <Rarrikins> pr0ph3t: No, `sudo aptitude full-upgrade` works for me.
[14:20] <pr0ph3t> There are too many unresolved dependencies. SonikkuAmerica just like that aptitude update and aptitude full-upgrade
[14:21] <SonikkuAmerica> pr0ph3t: Did you try [ do-release-upgrade ]?
[14:21] <SonikkuAmerica> pr0ph3t: Excuse me, [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ]?
[14:21] <sienez> zykotick9, sorry I made a mistake. It was actually not mentioned in update-grub. I missed a number there
[14:22] <sienez> zykotick9, so after running the deb, how do I get the kernel from /lib/modules to /boot?
[14:23] <bekks> sienez: in /lib/modules, the modules for a kernel in /boot reside.
[14:23] <pr0ph3t> SonikkuAmerica, not since last upgrade. The unmet dependencies are with mutter-common and libmutter0a and libmutter0b
[14:24] <pr0ph3t> Rarrikins, it must be due to some extra ppas I have then, thanks
[14:24] <stlre> how can list only the regular files with ls
[14:24] <stlre> ?
[14:24] <stlre> please help
[14:24] <bekks> stlre: ls lists files and directories by default, and hides "hidden" files, by default.
[14:24] <nonxa> Hi guys, I need some help
[14:24] <nonxa> I am trying to flash my linksys router with dd wrt
[14:24] <nonxa> and I have to use tftp, I've tried to install it but the commands related to it don't respond :/
[14:24] <nonxa> What can I do ?
[14:24] <FloodBot1> nonxa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <sienez> bekks, How do I make a module, which is in /lib/modules but not in /boot available at startup?
[14:25] <[360]Developer> stlre: by "ls *.cpp" if yu need more info "man ls"
[14:25] <betrayd> stlre type man ls in a terminal so you can see all its options
[14:25] <bekks> sienez: You dont do such things. You install a kernel package (.deb) and it install the kernel to /bott and the modules to /lib/modules
[14:25] <stlre> ty guys!!
[14:25] <[360]Developer> stlre: cool
[14:26] <sienez> bekks, ok. well.. mine didn't
[14:26] <bekks> sienez: Yes, and manually downloading a kernel package and having problems with it - is just not supported in here, as someone told you before.
[14:27] <sienez> bekks, yes I understand. What I really want is to be able to boot into an older version of the kernel. I don't care where I get it from. If it is possible through apt-get, I will prefer that way
[14:28] <bekks> sienez: Press shift in grub, and select an older kernel.
[14:28] <pr0ph3t> SonikkuAmerica, thanks
[14:29] <Rarrikins> stlre: ls -lF|sed '/[/]$/d'
[14:29] <pr0ph3t> he's gone
[14:29] <sienez> bekks, the kernel I want to boot is not installed yet! also if I press shift, nothing happens.
[14:29] <sienez> bekks, my current kernel is 3.5.0-32 but I want to boot 3.5.0-30
[14:29] <stlre> thank you
[14:30] <minixvm> sienez: sorry, i was wrong, they are still available in the repo
[14:30] <sienez> minixvm, cool! how to search for them?
[14:31] <minixvm> sienez: i prefer to use synaptic, you can just use the search feature there and type kernel
[14:32] <minixvm> sienez: you on 12.10?
[14:32] <betrayd> synaptic GUI beats all
[14:32] <sienez> minixvm, 12.04
[14:36] <Mech0z> how do I get a SMART reading on a SSD in terminal
[14:36] <Mech0z> want to see wear level count
[14:37] <minixvm> sienez: search in synaptic
[14:37] <[360]Developer> Mech0z: have a look at "man hdparm" if this helps
[14:41] <sienez> minixvm, thanks, I got it now!
[14:43] <minixvm> !yay | sienez
[14:43] <clcto> o/ says the drunk
[14:43] <sienez> :D
[14:45] <clcto> wtf is 360? xbox 360? really?
[14:45] <bekks> !wtf | clcto
[14:46] <clcto> oh sry i thought this was archlinux-offtopic sry bbl
[14:47] <clcto> wrong channel happens sometimes
[14:52] <Ponch0> I'm having issues minimizing windows in unity 13.04, It just freezes. Does anyone know what may be causing the issue?
[14:53] <Fieldy> Ponch0: i've had many similar issues with unity in 12 and 13 on many different systems, I ended up installing xfce and running that instead. all those problems went away. something is really screwy with unity
[14:54] <Ponch0> Fieldy: Ah, unfortunately I'm not using Unity by choice, I was on ubuntu-gnome but after last nights update something went broke.
[14:56] <ow> Okay, so I have a most fun dilemma. My very short question is this: Ubuntu 13.10; I've got an integrated intel video card, and a seperate Radeon card. By default, it's booting using the intel one. Is there a kernel command line I can use to make it use radeon?
[14:56] <gartral> hey all, i'm on ubuntu 12.10 anf some update in the past few days broke flash partially, there are certain flash applications that refuse to run for me
[14:57] <ow> and my other question: Is ctrl+alt+backspace (warning for the unaware: This is supposed to kill X, almost like a force-reboot of your computer) disabled by default, and how do I enable it if so?
[14:58] <gartral> ow: it's more of a soft reboot, and instructions on making it work again are here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace
[14:58] <BluesKaj> ow , you have to choose the default graphics card in the bios
[14:58] <ow> BluesKaj: bios doesn't let me.
[14:59] <gartral> ow: what bios do you have?
[14:59] <rmbell> i have an analog audio device and hdmi audio (which comes out my monitor, didnt even know it had speakers until now!). Default output is set to analog and everything uses it, except for java. It auto-changed itself to hdmi audio after using my pc on my pc. (fglrx drivers for hdmi)
[14:59] <BluesKaj> ow , does the pci card show ?
[15:00] <rmbell> er my pc on my tv heh
[15:00] <ow> BIOS pretty much doesn't let me do anything except change the time and date, boot order, and enable/disable vt
[15:00] <ow> one moment
[15:00] <ow> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]
[15:01] <ow> the one it's using, however, is 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[15:01] <gartral> ow: those are your graphics card, what board.BIOS do you have?
[15:01] <gartral> cards*
[15:01] <sienez> suppose I know the name of a header file. how do I find out which package or library contains the file?
[15:02] <bekks> sienez: You can use package.ubuntu.com for searching for that file.
[15:02] <ow> gartral: I dunno, how do I find out? (It's a HP Pavilion g7 laptop)
[15:03] <gartral> ow: ah, it's a laptop, now I have something to work with
[15:03] <ow> it seems like there should be a simple blah=radeon or something like that
[15:03] <sienez> bekks, the site has no search function?
[15:03] <bekks> sienez: The site I just told you has a search function.
[15:04] <sienez> bekks, true, sorry!
[15:05] <gartral> ow: well that depends on what hardware handels the switch, if worse comes to absolute worse.. you could always look at a custom .rc
[15:06] <chvx> does swap or swap in file does have any diffrences?
[15:06] <ZAVA> hola
[15:06] <bekks> chvx: swap in a file is potentially slower, but you wont notice it.
[15:07] <gartral> chvx: be careful though, if set up incorrectly you could have a potential security hole, or.. a RAM-hole..
[15:08] <jayn> afG12345
[15:08] <chvx> bekks: ok, haha an ram-hole :]
[15:09] <gartral> chvx: I'm serious, it's caused when a swapfile can be written to and not read from.. has a nasty habbit of breaking things very quickly
[15:09] <bekks> chvx: Trust him, he isnt fooling you.
[15:10] <gartral> ow: have you gotten to the point where you can install the proprietary drivers?
[15:10] <pr0ph3t> the gnome3 ppa is messing things up
[15:11] <chvx> bekks: i have heard that double the space for swap if i wanna have hibernate. is it right?
[15:11] <gartral> bekks: I did that in a VM once just to see how badly it would break.. yea, OOMs everywhere
[15:11] <bekks> gartral: Expected :)
[15:11] <bekks> chvx: No.
[15:11] <bekks> chvx: You need 1x RAM as swap plus a few MB for overhead.
[15:11] <gartral> chvx: no, but a *little* overhead is always needed
[15:12] <bekks> chvx: The times you needed 2x are gone for about - 20 years now.
[15:12] <gartral> chvx: rule of thumb for every 1024MB (1GB) ram, add 10MB
[15:13] <cappicard> hey folks. has anyone else been getting a frame file wanting to be saved every time they play a youtube video in chrome or firefox?
[15:13] <gartral> argh
[15:13] <chvx> still ubuntu partion an 6gb of swap
[15:14] <chvx> which is my RAM
[15:14] <betrayd> cappicard maybe try a different browser
[15:14] <bekks> chvx: 6.1GB for swap will be fine then.
[15:14] <cappicard> but this is happening in both linux and windows
[15:14] <ow> gartral: I can install proprietary drivers, but if I install the proprietary radeon drivers (frglx or something like that), the window manager won't load - i.e. no bar on the side etc, but the desktop background does show and you can right-click on it
[15:15] <christaras> Hello. I would like to ask you a question. I am currently using windows 8 and because i hate them i would like to use Ubuntu 13.04. My question is: Will it keep my files such as images/videos/music or will it completely erase it.
[15:15] <pr0ph3t> empathy just does not work properly, my google accounts keep needing authorisation, yahoo accounts cannot be set up, when are they going to fix it?
[15:15] <betrayd> cappicard even a different video?
[15:15] <cappicard> on every video
[15:16] <sharpie> My session managers are still unable to start XFCE4.  End up with a blackscreen.
[15:16] <gartral> ow: that's.. too be expected, actually, and the fix is, sadly, don't use Unity
[15:16] <[360]Developer> christaras: do a complete backup of your files first
[15:16] <betrayd> cappicard did you install a YT extension or downloader?
[15:16] <bekks> christaras: Depends on you install it. I'd backup everything before, if you want to ensure that you will not lose anything, no matter what happens.
[15:16] <sharpie> Can someone read my GDM logs and tell me what happened?  http://pastebin.com/8vGbXf6C
[15:16] <bekks> sharpie: Why dont you tell us what happened? :)
[15:17] <chvx> bekks: if i want to hibernate?+
[15:17] <bekks> chvx: Yes.
[15:17] <christaras> I want to upgrade without making a backup. My data is about 50GB and i have no space or any usb storage to store them at.
[15:17] <bekks> christaras: Ah, so you data isnt worth to be kept. Ok.
[15:17] <gartral> christaras: changing your OS isn't like an upgrade, even when you dual-boot there's *ALWAYS* a risk of complete data loss
[15:17] <gartral> or rather, when you set up for dual-bootng
[15:18] <sharpie> New install.  Update two days ago~~, now after I log in blackscreen with mouse pointer.
[15:18] <christaras> I am just asking if ubuntu can keep the files when installing because i've been told that it can in some senarios
[15:18] <Ari-Yang> .
[15:18] <[360]Developer> christaras: no, install ubuntu in windows 8 and use the dual boot option
[15:19] <bekks> christaras: Yes, and in some it cant. You are at risk losing your data. So back it up. Or dont back it up if you dont mind losing it.
[15:19] <[360]Developer> christaras: keep both OS
[15:19] <bekks> [360]Developer: There is no wubi anymore in 13.04 afaik. And its the worst solution.
[15:19] <christaras> unfortunately i cant as my hard drive has not enough space for running two os'es (around 100GB)
[15:20] <[360]Developer> bekks: darn! , ok then install 12:04 and upgrade
[15:20] <pr0ph3t> christaras, just to put things into perspective: I have been using linux since 1998 and installed several versions of mandrake, slackware, gentoo, debian, ubuntu etc, and so far not even once I had a complete data loss. But it is still possible of course
[15:20] <bekks> [360]Developer: wubi is the worst solution possible.
[15:20] <gartral> christaras: there's no direct way, because of the way ubuntu, or any OS, Windows, OSX, or *NIX-like has to change the contents of the drive..
[15:21] <[360]Developer> bekks: his going to loose his file
[15:21] <douguoda> 在
[15:21] <bekks> [360]Developer: Yes, because he dont have a backup. Thats the point.
[15:21] <douguoda> 新人报道
[15:22] <gartral> !cn | douguoda
[15:22] <christaras> Ok guys thank you. I will give it a try. I will just make sure that my sensitive data is safe.
[15:22] <bekks> christaras: Yeah, create a backup. Thats the only way to ensure it.
[15:22] <gartral> christaras: you could always back up to DVDs
[15:23] <[360]Developer> christaras:  bekks is right
[15:24] <BoredomKills> hi
[15:24] <BoredomKills> I'm wondering about the EFI Boot in Ubuntu
[15:24] <[360]Developer> BoredomKills: hey
[15:24] <BoredomKills> right now I have it running
[15:24] <douguoda>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:24] <christaras> I do agree keeping a backup is the best way to ensure the safety of data but 50Gbs of data is hard to store. Especially in dvds. I will need 11-12
[15:24] <gartral> BoredomKills: it's fast
[15:24] <BoredomKills> yeah....
[15:25] <BoredomKills> and I successfully installed in into a 3.0 USB Drive
[15:25] <douguoda>  /join #ubuntu-tw
[15:25] <minixvm> christaras: then why haven't you already got a backup solution in place?
[15:25] <BoredomKills> however I have one problem
[15:25] <sharpie> Can someone read my GDM logs and tell me what happened?  http://pastebin.com/8vGbXf6C
[15:25] <BoredomKills> when Grub-EFI starts up
[15:25] <sharpie> New install.  Update two days ago~~, now after I log in blackscreen with mouse pointer.
[15:25] <bekks> christaras: Dual-layer dvds, or just an external harddisk.
[15:25] <BoredomKills> I see a lot of options of Windows EFI that does not exist anymore
[15:25] <BoredomKills> Is it possible to delete those?
[15:25] <christaras> Because it costs XD. Anyway i though of online backup but i am afraid of it...
[15:26] <bekks> christaras: Does it cost more than the effort of recreating your data? If not - buy it. :)
[15:27] <bekks> christaras: 50GB upload will take ages. And restoring it will take ages too.
[15:27] <gartral> christaras: you have a few options.. one, use a different computer to back everything up to. Two, buy an external HDD.. (a 320 gig is about $50-60 US) or thirdly.. DVDs
[15:27] <christaras> Well you are right. Probably i have to buy an external hard disk.
[15:27] <BoredomKills> Does anyone know about removing options from grub-efi?
[15:27] <BoredomKills> I tried running update-grub and see no changes...
[15:28] <sharpie> chirstaras: Another option is backup over network to another pc
[15:28] <douguoda> 如何看到中文
[15:28] <christaras> i have no other pc
[15:28] <BoredomKills> douguoda: I can see ur chinese
[15:29] <gartral> alright, I'm annoyed, I have one.. ONE stupid little flash game that I play, and it isn't working, I'm not having any other issues but Super Mechs (http://www.supermechs.com) refuses to load, and it isn't just the version on their site, it refuses to load from anywhere that it's on!
[15:30] <gartral> can someone else please try and load it so i can see if it's just me or if their game has gone full-idiot
[15:31] <Mori__> I inserted a 4.7GB DVD
[15:31] <DJones> gartral: I get This page requires Flash Player V11.1 and above
[15:31] <Mori__> but brasero says that it's only 2.2GB big :O ?
[15:31] <BoredomKills> ermm... anyone have any experiences over efi?
[15:32] <surfdaemon> christaras: or get two, then you'll have three sets of data.
[15:32] <gartral> DJones: ok, so it isn't just me..
[15:32] <neorosbob> HI all, I'm stuck on a static route issue on a 802.3ad lagg group. Can anyone help shed some light on what I'm doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/EZJtWwtY
[15:32] <christaras> For me the Flash game is working just fine.
[15:33] <neorosbob> actually, the lagg group probably has nothing to do with it, but might.
[15:33] <gartral> DJones: if you look in about://plugins run a recent Ubuntu, you'll notice that flash should be higher that that version... looks like Adobe broke flash for linux AGAIN
[15:34] <BoredomKills> anyone have any exp on efi??
[15:38] <BoredomKills> anyone have any experiences with EFI?
[15:38] <neorosbob> HI all, I'm stuck with a static route issue on an LACP interface. Can anyone help me understand what I'm doing wrong?
[15:38] <neorosbob> details here http://pastebin.com/EZJtWwtY
[15:39] <martinux> [360]Developer: You here?
[15:39] <BoredomKills> ?
[15:39] <[360]Developer> martinux: yip
[15:39] <martinux> [360]Developer: The fix did not help
[15:39] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: you mean like the Firmware interfaces EFI?
[15:40] <BoredomKills> grub-efi
[15:40] <BoredomKills> when you boot Ubuntu through grub-efi
[15:40] <BoredomKills> you see that screen that has the options of what to boot
[15:40] <neorosbob> ah, what's the issue
[15:40] <[360]Developer> martinux:  did the terminal popup?
[15:40] <martinux> [360]Developer: Nope
[15:40] <BoredomKills> I'm having a lot of extra boot items that I want to delete
[15:40] <DJones> gartral: Mine shows 11.2r2-2 on 13.04 in Chromium
[15:41] <[360]Developer> martinux: ok back to the drawing board
[15:41] <DJones> gartral: Have to go now
[15:41] <martinux> [360]Developer: btw the last time I tried to wake it from suspend I heard a sound, like the ubuntu login-sreen
[15:41] <martinux> [360]Developer: Maybe indicating that the monitor is the issue?
[15:41] <[360]Developer> martinux: maybe the x system
[15:42] <martinux> Not sure what that is :p Did you ever find where 13.04 stores the syslog.1 file?
[15:42] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: That's just a text file entry. Is this what you are looking for? http://askubuntu.com/questions/176322/removing-old-kernel-entries-in-grub
[15:43] <[360]Developer> martinux: being on askubuntu without success
[15:43] <minixvm> martinux: /var/log/ i assume
[15:43] <martinux> minixvm: It's not
[15:44] <[360]Developer> guy's where is the syslog stored on 13.04??
[15:44] <neorosbob> if syslog.1 is not in a standard place you can look for is using lsof to see the full path of the open file
[15:44] <martinux> I did tell you that the 'syslog' IS stored in /var/log , yes?
[15:44] <BoredomKills> neorosbob: Not really, that's for the old grub system
[15:44] <minixvm> martinux: thats where it is on 13.04 for me
[15:45] <BoredomKills> neorosbob: Mine is that Other than Ubunut and the Advanced Options, I have like 6 other Windows EFI
[15:45] <martinux> minixvm: really? that's weird
[15:45] <BoredomKills> that I can't boot
[15:45] <minixvm> martinux: thats where its always been
[15:45] <martinux> 'lsof | grep syslog.1' returns nothing
[15:45] <martinux> how about for you minixvm ?
[15:46] <minixvm> martinux: i opened the folder and looked, its there
[15:46] <martinux> Yeah I was just wondering if lsof showed it to you, I'm not familiar with the command
[15:47] <martinux> Why would I be missing a syslog, then..
[15:47] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: I got you, this is on newer systems with UEFI hardware. That's a tough one. I'd be of no better use than googling around for you.
[15:47] <[360]Developer> martinux: "ls /var/log" anything?
[15:47] <terretz> question: is there a way to see an entire directory tree?  example: I want to see entire structure of /etc/ldap/slapd.d
[15:47] <betrayd> martinux try without the .1
[15:47] <neorosbob> There should be a standard way to remove those in grub2 for UEFI but I've never had to do it
[15:48] <BoredomKills> neorosbob: nahz, thanx for responsing. I have tried to google as much as I could...
[15:48] <BoredomKills> seems like efibootmgr was supposed to be able to do it
[15:48] <BoredomKills> but it didn't though...
[15:48] <BoredomKills> I
[15:48] <martinux> [360]Developer: Yeah. I have all the normal log files, including 'syslog'
[15:48] <martinux> but not syslog.1
[15:48] <BoredomKills> think it might have something to do with editing the actual .efi file...
[15:48] <neorosbob> martinux: lsof run on it's own will show all open files on the system including network sockets. 'lsof | grep syslog.1' should get you there
[15:49] <[360]Developer> martinux: you say syslog is empty?
[15:49] <martinux> neorosbob: So when it returns nothing it means I don't have a file called syslog.1 ?
[15:49] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: I think you are right. It should be a text file with entry lines for each boot image just like old grub
[15:49] <martinux> [360]Developer: Nono
[15:49] <martinux> [360]Developer: syslog is full
[15:50] <[360]Developer> martinux: cool ok then post on pastebin
[15:50] <neorosbob> martinux: correct, but keep in mind that a log file named with a .1,2,3 etc behind it is a log file that has been rotated out typically by logrotate
[15:50] <martinux> oh I thought there was something special about syslog.1
[15:50] <BoredomKills> neorosbob: I don't really think so... the efi is in hex..
[15:50] <betrayd> martinux .1,.2 are backups of syslog
[15:50] <martinux> oh man. sorry [360]Developer
[15:50] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: I think it's a text file with a hex entry in it. But I'm just speaking of vague far back in the bast memory
[15:51] <martinux> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5690306
[15:51] <gartral> arrgh
[15:51] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: poke around in the grub menu and see if you can find your way. I bet the grub command line will let you do it
[15:51] <martinux> [360]Developer: there you go, syslog from a restart after suspend
[15:52] <[360]Developer> martinux: cool will run through it
[15:53] <BoredomKills> neorosbob: The grub command line?
[15:53] <neorosbob> martinux: did you follow what I was saying about logrotate? For example I set logrotate to keep 4 previous versions so I will have a syslog.1 syslog.2 syslog.3 and syslog.4 but the only open file would be /var/log/syslog since that is the active file being logged to
[15:54] <martinux> neorosbob: What is the purpose of keeping 5 versions? I can see why you want 1 backup, but not 4?
[15:54] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: yes, just run grub with no args
[15:55] <BoredomKills> I got grub is not installed
[15:55] <BoredomKills> lolz?
[15:55] <neorosbob> martinux: if your server produces a lot of log data you may want to rotate them out to keep the files smaller. This allows you to keep more log data with smaller file sizes and also protects you from a log file filling your filesystem
[15:56] <chvx> how much swap does i need? my RAM is 6GB
[15:56] <minixvm> chvx: just over 6GB if you want to hibernate
[15:56] <neorosbob> martinux: it will only prevent you filling your filesystem if you run logrotate often enough to stay on top of it. That's why a lot of high traffic servers will often use syslog to a logging server so you don't have to manage it on local disk
[15:57] <neorosbob> BoredomKills: apt-get install grub
[15:57] <neorosbob> or sudo apt-get install grub
[15:57] <martinux> neorosbob: I see :)
[15:58] <martinux> [360]Developer: Dinner is ready.  Can anyone see what I am missing here? http://pastebin.com/EZJtWwtY
[16:00] <[360]Developer> !wtf | Snype
[16:00] <Snype> oh it is so useful!
[16:00] <Snype> u warned me for wtf or omfg?
[16:01] <minixvm> Snype: neither are acceptable here
[16:01] <Snype> it depends on how to interpret them
[16:01] <Snype> for me wtf: where the food
[16:01] <Snype> and omfg: oh my food good
[16:01] <Snype> if u havent guess
[16:01] <Snype> i am fat
[16:01] <neorosbob> Snype if you are looking for a friend please pursue your interests on a dating IRC channel. This is for people seeking technical wisdon, not adolescent behavior
[16:02] <Snype> u mean wisdom?
[16:02] <Snype> its ok
[16:02] <Snype> it happens
[16:02] <neorosbob> who cares, you can read between the lines
[16:02] <Snype> dont be embarrassed
[16:02] <[360]Developer> Snype <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:02] <RK> Hi there ! where launching a job offers service. Would appreciate a lot if you can help us answer a very short poll (6 points). Thanks a bunch. http://goo.gl/zLgfD
[16:02] <Snype> [360]Developer, ?
[16:02] <Snype> finding ips on irc?
[16:02] <Snype> such a win
[16:03] <Snype> you have won:
[16:03] <Snype> my laughter! :D
[16:03] <[360]Developer> Snype: its only one step
[16:03] <Snype> sure
[16:03] <Snype> take another one
[16:03] <Snype> if you can that is
[16:03] <Snype> good luck
[16:03] <FloodBot1> Snype: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <Snype> [360]Developer, <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:04] <Mori__> lol
[16:04] <Snype> easy peasy
[16:05] <TsukasaUjiie> quick question. Will I encounter any problems using cron to execute a python script at boot? this script contains an infinite loop (its a server of sorts) and I do not want it to terminate. Is this an efficient way of doing it?
[16:05] <Snype> no
[16:05] <TsukasaUjiie> no as in it wont be a problem?
[16:05] <Snype> your cpu usage will already be high
[16:05] <bekks> TsukasaUjiie: Its a pretty bad way.
[16:06] <Snype> and python loops consume a lot of cpu too
[16:06] <Snype> put time.sleep() in python loop
[16:06] <bekks> TsukasaUjiie: Create an init script, and run it in the background.
[16:06] <TsukasaUjiie> yeah it uses time.sleep
[16:06] <Snype> and it does not consume a lot of cpu?
[16:06] <Snype> on its own that is
[16:06] <TsukasaUjiie> no
[16:06] <Snype> then you should be good
[16:06] <TsukasaUjiie> awesome
[16:06] <Snype> :)
[16:06] <TsukasaUjiie> so cron will not terminate it at all? :)
[16:06] <schnuffle1> TsukasaUjiie:  I would create an init script as well
[16:06] <Snype> no
[16:07] <Snype> all cron does is execute a thing
[16:07] <lrcaballero> has anybody tried Pantheon DE? on Ubuntu 13.04? If so, what has been your experience?
[16:07] <Snype> you could always screen detach it
[16:07] <Snype> sudo apt-get install screen
[16:07] <TsukasaUjiie> schnufflel: I would but that would require setting up the script to run as a daemon, which I am to tired to do currently
[16:07] <minixvm> lrcaballero: not supported here
[16:07] <Snype> screen -mds python script.py should be your cron then
[16:07] <TsukasaUjiie> oh
[16:07] <TsukasaUjiie> cool
[16:07] <TsukasaUjiie> Ill give that a shot
[16:07] <Snype> sure
[16:07] <TsukasaUjiie> the format for the cron file would just be "@reboot screen -mds python script.py" yeah?
[16:08] <Snype> yeah
[16:08] <TsukasaUjiie> awesome
[16:08] <TsukasaUjiie> thanks
[16:08] <Snype> screen -help
[16:08] <Snype> would be your best friend
[16:08] <Snype> pm me if you need more help regarding it
[16:08] <schnuffle1> TsukasaUjiie: daemon-tools helps you transofrming your script in a daemon
[16:08] <TsukasaUjiie> awesome thanks
[16:08] <TsukasaUjiie> Ill check that out in the morning :)
[16:09] <TsukasaUjiie> thanks guys!
[16:09] <IdleOne> RK: Please don't advertise your site in the ubuntu channels.
[16:10] <neorosbob> HI all, I'm stuck with a static route in /etc/network/interfaces. Can anyone see what I am missing here? http://pastebin.com/EZJtWwtY
[16:10] <chvx> minixvm: what is hibernate?
[16:10] <neorosbob> writes your active memory to disk and powers down the machine
[16:11] <minixvm> chvx: a feature i never use
[16:11] <Snype> better you sleep @ chvx
[16:11] <neorosbob> so when you power on it's not a boot it just reloads the memory
[16:11] <Snype> sleep-hybrid to be exact
[16:11] <Snype> it has both sleep + hibernate
[16:11] <Snype> its awesome
[16:11] <neorosbob> agree, it is awesome, especially if you have an ssd
[16:11] <Snype> chvx, better use sleep
[16:11] <bekks> Snype: Whats sleep in terms of computerS?
[16:12] <Snype> its when everything in the computer powers down
[16:12] <neorosbob> sleep maintains power state on ram so it uses power where hybernate does not
[16:12] <Snype> apart from the ram
[16:12] <bekks> Snype: Thats called "hibernation".
[16:12] <Snype> so you are in this state of very low power usage
[16:12] <Snype> hibernation is when you dump the ram into your hard disk
[16:12] <Snype> and then you fully power down
[16:13] <bekks> Snype: VEry low power -> suspend, turned off -> hibernation.
[16:13] <Snype> dude thats what i said
[16:13] <Snype> everything except for ram powers down
[16:13] <Snype> so very low power usage
[16:13] <Snype> what are you smoking?
[16:13] <bekks> Snype: You said sleep, I said suspend. Dude, thats something different. :)
[16:13] <bekks> Snype: And dont let it get personal.
[16:14] <neorosbob> sleep = suspend
[16:14] <Snype> You do know sleep and suspend are the same when it comes to computers right?
[16:14] <schnuffle1> neorosbob: isn't only one post-up allowed? So you would need to trigger ascript instead using two post-up
[16:14] <bekks> Snype: No, I didnt know that. Since thats not true.
[16:14] <neorosbob> schnufflel: thanks, trying it now...
[16:14] <Snype> How could you not know it and yet know its not true?
[16:14] <Snype> You definitely are smoking something :D
[16:15] <bekks> Snype: Whatever you might smoke - get back to ubuntu support please.
[16:15] <[360]Developer> bekks: carefull Snype
[16:15] <[360]Developer> knows it all
[16:15] <Snype> he does :D
[16:15] <ichat> haha if it whern't so sad it would have been funny
[16:16] <[360]Developer> this is like playing tag
[16:16] <IdleOne> Can we please stick to ubuntu support and take the chit chat/ cross talk elsewhere.
[16:16] <Snype> where is the big question IdleOne
[16:17] <IdleOne> Snype: #ubuntu-offtopic is a start
[16:17] <Snype> thats still ubuntu
[16:17] <Snype> and what if they raise the same query?
[16:18] <IdleOne> Snype: I'm asking really nice like. Please stop with the off topic comments.
[16:18] <k1l_> !guidelines > Snype
[16:18] <Snype> i just made #IdleOne
[16:18] <Snype> join me there
[16:18] <neorosbob> schnufflel: that doesn't seem to be the case. Trying with a single post-up doesn't add the route. I think it's my syntax
[16:18] <echoe> ...
[16:18] <ichat> btw snypee you ARE wrong btw,  with sleep the system  keep power to the ram  so that the system state is there, with hybernate the system is fully powered off including the ram... so   in contradicution to  sleep,  with  hybernate the system-state is stored on harddisk  has to be  'uploaded'   to the ram again taking more time to be ready again but saving power  (electricity)
[16:19] <neorosbob> ichat: I believe that is exactly what snype and myself both stated.
[16:20] <grobend> HEY VIRGINS
[16:20] <neorosbob> Hi all, I'm stuck with a static route in /etc/network/interfaces. Can anyone see what I am missing here? http://pastebin.com/EZJtWwtY
[16:21] <princej88> !guidelines
[16:23] <[360]Developer> neorosbob: its the same thing, check your flags
[16:23] <Seveas> neorosbob: you don't need those manual routes, the entires /24 is already routed via that dev
[16:23] <ow> What's the program for system preferences? i.e. if I need to start it with DISPLAY=:0 commandhere
[16:24] <neorosbob> I am adding a static route to a host. I have storage on the same subnet and I want traffic to those hosts to use the lagg interface (faster)
[16:24] <neorosbob> so a /24 won't work
[16:24] <martinux> [360]Developer: hey !
[16:24] <[360]Developer> martinux:  hey still working on it
[16:25] <Seveas> neorosbob: the entire /24 goes via the binded interface. Adding specific routes for those hosts has no effect whatsoever.
[16:25] <neorosbob> [360]Developer/Seveas: does that make sense what I just explained?
[16:25] <martinux> [360]Developer: allright. I appreciate it man
[16:25] <neorosbob> not true, I can validate traffic does exactly what I want when I add the routes manually using route add. A test transfer shows traffic on the lagg interface using iftop
[16:26] <neorosbob> where the default route is on the interface br2 where I can validate traffic does not flow through that interface
[16:27] <Seveas> ow: gnome-control-center
[16:27] <Seveas> neorosbob: then the output you pastebin'ed is fake. It clearly show the /24 routed via bond0
[16:28] <[360]Developer> neorosbob: the last time i created a bonded setup i had to not only setup the bond0 with address and so on but also setup eth0 and eth1 aswell
[16:28] <neorosbob> Seveas: on the top route output yes but on the bottom you can see the additional host routes
[16:29] <neorosbob> [360]Developer, the bonded interface is working fine. It's the static route to the 2 hosts that doesn't work in my interfaces config but works when I add manually
[16:29] <Seveas> neorosbob: both show the /24 being routed via bond0 - the routes for those hosts have no effect unless you've been faking that output.
[16:30] <[360]Developer> neorosbob: then a quick patch would be a bash script on start up
[16:30] <Seveas> <IP_ADDRESS>    *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 bond0
[16:30] <[360]Developer> brb
[16:35] <neorosbob> Saveas: fair enough, I will need to remove the route you mention for this to work, but the problem at hand still remains that my interfaces file syntax does not add the routes
[16:35] <neorosbob> so my logic on the routes are incomplete as you mention, but my problem is still un-addressed
[16:36] <weicheng> anyone here ?
[16:36] <k1l_> !ask | weicheng
[16:36] <gordonjcp> weicheng: hundreds and hundreds of people
[16:37] <weicheng> OK , got it  , and  my  question is  why  my pidgin cannot  login  IRC  ?
[16:37] <neorosbob> [360]Developer:  I could do that. Thanks. However I suspect my syntax or context is wrong in my /etc/network/interfaces file. I typically use centos so I'm a newbie to ubuntu. So I think I am doing something wrong
[16:38] <weicheng> I have to  use  Xchat  to  login  irc  now
[16:39] <Snype> all linux are same
[16:39] <Snype> you are newb on all linux
[16:39] <weicheng> pidgin  cannot  connect  irc  anymore ?
[16:39] <Snype> or you are not newb
[16:39] <Snype> neorosbob, ^^^^
[16:39] <weicheng> yes  , I'm  newb
[16:41] <k1l_> Snype: focus on the helpful part of this technical support channel. if you want to chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:41] <iceroot> is there a way to have flash on ubuntu (arm)?
[16:41] <weicheng> means to  install  flash  ?
[16:42] <bekks> iceroot: On arm - I guess not.
[16:42] <IdleOne> iceroot: #ubuntu-arm should be able to help
[16:42] <iceroot> weicheng: installing and using
[16:42] <iceroot> IdleOne: thx
[16:42] <IdleOne> but I don't believe so
[16:43] <Znoosey> iceroot, have you tried gnash?
[16:43] <Znoosey> i think that is what it is called...
[16:43] <weicheng> ..
[16:44] <iceroot> Znoosey: unluckily not working with the videos i am trying
[16:44] <Znoosey> ah
[16:44] <Znoosey> then i'm out of ideas
[16:45] <iceroot> as it seems flash is build for android on arm v7.
[16:45] <Znoosey> i think it depends on which SoC you are using
[16:45] <iceroot> but with specific extensions my hardware is not offering
[16:46] <betrayd> weicheng you have the irc plugin for pidgin, how did you isnatll it
[16:46] <neorosbob> Seveas: I believe this is what you were driving at http://pastebin.com/cM3yPjXY however the problem still remains my synatx/context is not correct in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:47] <q_> can someone walk me through manually installing Flash player?
[16:47] <IdleOne> Phryq: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:48] <betrayd> neorosbob if it didn't complain about syntax in commandline, then its something else
[16:49] <betrayd> quit blaming the guy if he was at the movies when it happened
[16:50] <iceroot> neorosbob: your issue is that the del line is not working?
[16:50] <iceroot> neorosbob: and its still the default?
[16:50] <neorosbob> betrayd:  I'm assuming it's my context rather than syntax. Coming up blanks here. I've made this work hundreds of time on redhat/centos. Just not wrapping my head around what I'm missing here
[16:51] <neorosbob> iceroot: del line is working. The route was there before I ran it and gone after I ran it
[16:51] <betrayd> neorosbob, none of the hardware or cabling has changed since?
[16:52] <Seveas> neorosbob: well, if you keep faking output I'm not going to waste more time on you
[16:52] <betrayd> since centos or fedora days that is
[16:52] <neorosbob> betrayd: no, I basically setup my lagg group this morning, got it working and started on this. I have a bonded interface in a switch with storage on bonded interfaces and a 3rd interface (bridge) which carries the default gateway to the same subnet
[16:53] <neorosbob> betrayd: so I can use 'route' at the command line and get all working great, just can't seem to make it persistant on reboot
[16:54] <Phryq> IdleOne, I mean how to install it from the downloaded package on the site.
[16:54] <Phryq> The software centre gives me an error; I've been trying to fix it all day and have given up
[16:54] <Phryq> (software centre gives me an error message for a whole bunch of things)
[16:54] <IdleOne> Phryq: is it a deb package?
[16:54] <neorosbob> Seveas: why would I fake output? If you don't want to help that's fine, but don't accuse me  if you don't understand the problem/solution
[16:55] <IdleOne> neorosbob: if anyone here can help you it is Seveas.
[16:55] <Phryq> it's a tar.gz
[16:56] <IdleOne> Phryq: there should be a README file in that archive with instructions.
[16:56] <Phryq> "install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz" when I look inside I see some files having to do with KDE, though I'm running Ubnity
[16:57] <betrayd> uh oh kde, was it the right repo?
[16:57] <IdleOne> Phryq: what files do you see that have to do with KDE?
[16:57] <Phryq> wait, can Ubuntu use rpm?
[16:57] <Seveas> Phryq: get rid of that tar.gz and simply install the adobe-flashplugin package from the repositories.
[16:58] <betrayd> i guess that answered my question
[16:58] <minixvm> Phryq: no
[16:58] <handuel> Phryq: there is a converter called alien
[16:58] <IdleOne> why do you need to use package from the adobe site?
[16:58] <Phryq> it won't let me install from the repo
[16:58] <minixvm> !rpm | Phryq
[16:58] <Seveas> hmm
[16:58] <IdleOne> Phryq: why won't it let you install from the repos?
[16:58] <Seveas> that fact should really be s/apt/dpkg/
[16:58] <handuel> also at one point on my system I did have rpm installed, somehow, but I removed it before it broke anything
[16:58] <TheUsD_> Anyone in here familiar wth owncloud?
[16:58] <handuel> !APT
[16:58] <Phryq> it's a clean install. In fact I did a new install of ubuntu *just* to make flashplayer work. I'm really frusterated
[16:58] <Seveas> !rpm =~ s/apt/dpkg/
[16:59] <Seveas> Phryq: enable the 'partner' repo and install the adobe-flashplugin package. Done.
[16:59] <handuel> OH... it's still installed: samuel@samuel-ubuntu:~$ rpm --version RPM version <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:59] <handuel> is that bad
[17:00] <Seveas> handuel: no, that's fine
[17:00] <TheUsD_> Can someone help me out with OwnCloud? I have a question about upload size limits.
[17:00] <IdleOne> Phryq: why won't it let you install from the repos?
[17:00] <handuel> Seveas: Ok, Why is it there :D
[17:00] <handuel> ah alien depends on it
[17:00] <Phryq> after enabling the partner repo, do I need to restart or update or anything?
[17:00] <luk01> I managed to boot a btrfs-converted ext4 root filesystem, I can give you info, if you wish
[17:00] <handuel> as does logmein-hamachi :D
[17:01] <luk01> (Xubuntu 12.10)
[17:01] <k1l_> TheUsD_: did you ask the owncloud support already?
[17:01] <handuel> Phrq: no
[17:01] <IdleOne> Phryq: why won't it let you install from the repos?
[17:01] <handuel> Phryq: actually you may need to sudo apt-get update, but deffinetely no reboot
[17:01] <Phryq> pastie.org/7993615
[17:02] <IdleOne> Phryq: is it giving you an error when you try to install it?
[17:02] <Phryq> yes, the error I pastied
[17:02] <TheUsD_> KlL: No, I didnt look to see if there was an IRC channel :p
[17:02] <Ari-Yang> what's the recommended music player for ubuntu or linux? like one of the best?
[17:02] <plankton> I pressed delete key on a folder in my pendrive, and Ubuntu without message deleted it. But, pendrive size didn't change, so I think that data still there. How can I recover/show this folder again?
[17:02] <Phryq> I can a similar error trying to install a whole bunch of things.
[17:02] <weichengki> :-DHello  ,  everyone
[17:03] <Phryq> About 50% of the programs I try to install give me an error like this
[17:03] <handuel> Phryq: try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install -f
[17:03] <handuel> Phryq: and then try again
[17:04] <Phryq> handuel. I did that earlier today but I'll try it again for good measure
[17:04] <handuel> Phryq: ok... odd
[17:04] <Guest10648> hello, where located keyboard layout files in ubuntu?
[17:05] <Phryq> I got a message at the end saying there were a bunch of packages installed automatically and are no longer required. Should I remove them?
[17:05] <Seveas> Phryq: are you ignoring me?
[17:05] <Seveas> I've given you the solution multiple times already...
[17:05] <Phryq> no
[17:05] <handuel> Phryq: you may as well. sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:06] <Phryq> Seveas, I tried it it didn't work
[17:06] <Guest10648> please let me know where I can find where keyboard layout files?
[17:06] <Phryq> you mean when you suggested enable partner repos, right?
[17:06] <Seveas> Phryq: pastebin full command and output
[17:07] <betrayd> plankton the size will change if they're gigabytes, otherwise the fielsystem will 'fill it up' no worries
[17:08] <TheUsD_> hello, I was wondering if someone could help me out with increasing upload limit sizes.
[17:08] <TheUsD_>  I am using Ubuntu 12.04 server, as the host. Win7 machines as clients (if that matters)
[17:09] <Phryq> Seveas, I was using the gui. What command do I use to install with terminal?
[17:09] <TheUsD_> KlL: owncloud room is dead :(
[17:09] <Seveas> TheUsD_: what server software do you use, and what's the limit?
[17:09] <Phryq> adobe-flashplugin <IP_ADDRESS>5-0raring1?
[17:09] <Seveas> Phryq: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[17:10] <TheUsD_> Seveas: I'm not sure abou the server software (had a friend set it up) but the limit is 512mb.   It worked this time!
[17:12] <IdleOne> !language | Phryq
[17:12] <Seveas> Phryq: well, waddayaknow. Sometimes you just need to give it a smack on the head :)
[17:12] <Phryq> Seriously. I've spend almost the entire day trying to make it work. I don't know why it worked now
[17:13] <Phryq> oh, sorry
[17:13] <Seveas> Phryq: because now you had #ubuntu backing you up. This room is magical :)
[17:13] <Phryq> haha, actually I was in this room earlier too.
[17:14] <Seveas> then it must be my awesomeness :)
[17:14] <Seveas> as I wasn't in here before
[17:14] <betrayd> Seveas must have given it an offer it couldn't refuse
[17:14] <Phryq> Chromium still won't install though. It is having the same problem. I'll give the output in a second
[17:15] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993645
[17:15] <Seveas> Phryq: apt-cache policy chromium-browser
[17:15] <Seveas> and pastebin output
[17:15] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993647
[17:16] <Seveas> seems decent. More debugging info needed
[17:16] <TheUsD_> if I type in  "sudo find / -name php.ini" is it supposed to cycle through all the files? I guess then it stops when it finds a matching file(s)
[17:16] <Seveas> more /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | cat
[17:16] <Seveas> and pastebin output
[17:16] <Seveas> TheUsD_: that will visit your entire filesystem
[17:17] <Seveas> TheUsD_: try /etc instead of / -- that's where config files generally arte
[17:17] <Seveas> s/te$/e/
[17:17] <TheUsD_> Seveas: ok thanks. Does ctrl c stop the search?
[17:17] <IdleOne> yes
[17:18] <TheUsD_> thanks
[17:18] <hpage> just got an update message from ubuntu and clicked the Yes, Upgrade Now button and nothing happend do i need to update manually
[17:18] <digitaly> hello - I have installed remmina-plugin-xdmcp and enabled xdmcp with lightdm per the wiki, but it logs in to a black screen with cursor from my client
[17:18] <digitaly> any ideas?
[17:18] <imaginaryfool> hello all
[17:19] <Phryq> Seveas. Would you recomend installing from terminal using apt-get rather than using the software centre gui?
[17:19] <hpage> gui is faster
[17:19] <Seveas> Phryq: I would recommend that you do that command I just gave and pastebin the output so I can see how messed up your repositories are :)
[17:19] <iceroot> Phryq: technicly there is no difference, for debuging apt-get is nicer
[17:19] <iceroot> Phryq: its easier for us when we have apt-get errors instead of descriptions that the software-center was producing an error
[17:20] <Seveas> Phryq: as to installing: I prefer the command line, because I *live* in the terminal. When it comes to errors, there's no difference. What fails in the one, will fail in the other.
[17:20] <imaginaryfool> im relearning the terminal install
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> i like terminal speed for apt-get
[17:21] <Phryq> I think I already pasted it, you mean this one? http://pastie.org/7993647
[17:21] <Seveas> no, the one ofter that
[17:21] <Seveas> more /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | cat
[17:22] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993666
[17:23] <IdleOne> looks good
[17:23] <iceroot> Seveas: cat file1 file2 foobar*  :)
[17:23] <Seveas> iceroot: nope. more foo bar baz | cat
[17:23] <iceroot> Seveas: useles use of a pipe and more
[17:23] <Seveas> more adds the filename to the output. Rather useful in this case
[17:24] <Seveas> not useless at all. Try it :)
[17:24] <plankton> betrayd, nevermind, I got how thing works. Thanks. :)
[17:24] <Seveas> Phryq: apt-cache policy libnss3-1d
[17:25] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993672
[17:26] <Seveas> hmm, so it's available. sudo apt-get install libnss3-1d -- and when that fails because of a dependency: apt-cache policy that_dependency_here
[17:27] <Phryq> you want output for sudo apt-get install libnss3-1d ?
[17:27] <pozori> what's a good cd-rip like ExactAudioCopy for Linux?
[17:27] <Seveas> and the apt-cache of that failing dependency
[17:28] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993683
[17:28] <Phryq> oh, I see
[17:28] <phunyguy> pozori: anything that supports cdparanoia
[17:28] <pozori> phunyguy: like?
[17:28] <Phryq> so I should type "apt-cache policy libnss3" ?
[17:28] <Seveas> yeah
[17:28] <phunyguy> abcde is a cli app
[17:28] <phunyguy> command line
[17:29] <phunyguy> works well, pozori
[17:29] <Seveas> Phryq: and we can go deeper. Try to install libnss3. And if that fails on a dependency, try to install it. Continue until you get a more useful error
[17:29] <phunyguy> if you want GUI, there is ruby ripper but I don't think it is included in the repos
[17:29] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7993690
[17:29] <Phryq> looks like it's already installed?
[17:30] <IdleOne> it is
[17:30] <Seveas> Phryq: aha!
[17:30] <Seveas> Phryq: you installed something from an unofficial repo and now it's screwed up
[17:30] <Phryq> no, that would make sense, but this is a fresh install
[17:30] <Phryq> the only thing I've installed is x-chat
[17:30] <Seveas> it can't be.
[17:31] <Phryq> because that's the conclusion I came to before, so I reinstalled the OS
[17:31] <Guest10648> so? noone knows where located kayboard layout files?
[17:31] <Phryq> I didn't even have any other repos enabled until you suggested enabling cannonical partners
[17:31] <Phryq> oh, and now I have Flash as well
[17:32] <trism> Phryq: actually looks like your mirror is messed up
[17:32] <trism> Phryq: because 2:3.14.3-0ubuntu1 is the current raring version
[17:32] <Phryq> I'm in Kuwait, if that means anything
[17:32] <trism> Phryq: I would try a different mirror
[17:32] <Phryq> how do I do that?
[17:32] <IdleOne> maybe changing to the main canonical server, just so you can make sure you have updated packages
[17:32] <Phryq> that would explain why I have so many different programs that won't install
[17:33] <Seveas> Phryq: sudo sed -e 's/kw.archive/gb.archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:33] <yax51> hello
[17:33] <Phryq> thanks
[17:33] <Seveas> that'll make you use the english mirror
[17:33] <Seveas> then do sudo apt-get update
[17:33] <Phryq> no feedback for "sudo sed -e 's/kw.archive/gb.archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list", right?
[17:33] <Seveas> but looking at that mirror, it doesn't seem too bad, so this may not help
[17:33] <Seveas> Phryq: correct
[17:33] <yax51> I am trying to make a script to run a command to fix the flipped webcam issue I have, but I can't remember hot to make a script :/
[17:33] <IdleOne> Phryq: no news is good news
[17:34] <Phryq> Wow, I'm learning a lot. You guys rock
[17:35] <IdleOne> Phryq: now sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:37] <Phryq> IdleOne, it's like you knew exactly when my update would finish to give me the new command ;)
[17:37] <Seveas> Phryq: that's because he has access to your computer and is watching you
[17:38] <weicheng> ;-)
[17:39] <pozori> phunyguy: okay abcde is cli but super easy, thanks!
[17:39] <Shariff> Hi there
[17:40] <Phryq> haha, you're joking, right Seveas?
[17:40] <Phryq> anyway, upgrade is done. Should I try an install?
[17:40] <A1Recon> How do I copy a CD in Ubuntu?  Pretty much equivalent to having root :)
[17:40] <Seveas> and yeah, try installing chromium-browser
[17:41] <mjuszczak> Somehow my /boot is full.... http://pastebin.com/UqFG4bps  -- can anyone let me know why?  sudo apt-get update / upgrade keeps failing because it's running out of space.
[17:43] <phunyguy> mjuszczak: 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[17:43] <downbeam> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH AMULE PLEASE?
[17:43] <Phryq> wow, it seems to be working!
[17:43] <phunyguy> !caps
[17:43] <IdleOne> mjuszczak: uninstall old kernels (keep the two newest) and delete some logs /etc/var/
[17:43] <Seveas> mjuszczak: it's full because you didn't remove old kernel packages. Try removing linux-image-3.8.0-22 avd linux-image-3.8.0-21
[17:43] <TheUsD_> Seveas: Do you have any OwnCloud experience?
[17:43] <Phryq> thanks so much. You guys are my saviors!
[17:43] <Phryq> (knock on wood because it's still installing)
[17:43] <TheUsD_> Seveas: I followed those instructions, but its still only allowing 512mb of upload.
[17:44] <IdleOne> TheUsD_: you restarted Apache?
[17:44] <Seveas> TheUsD_: no, I have never actually used OwnCloud. Did you restart apache after making the required changes?
[17:44] <TheUsD_> Restarted whole machine
[17:44] <Seveas> IdleOne: stop stealing my thunder!
[17:44] <Mori__> another problem: I'm tryinbg to burn a window 8 image with brasero.