[02:50] <djs_2_6> witte - Yep, my memory is perfect.  It is firefox on this distro...
[02:50] <jean> with not enough memory would the system just slow down?
[02:50] <_jason> japanlover: do you mean it is there and when you click it does nothing or it doesn't even show up?
[02:51] <japanlover> it is there, but i check it off and click ok and go back, and it's unchecked
[02:51] <balu1> nickrud : libglide3:  installed: 2002.04.10-11ubuntu1 // candidate: 2002.04.10-11ubuntu1
[02:51] <djs_2_6> witte - BTW, I have 1GB of OCZ Gold VX @ 240FSB and it tests consistently perfect...
[02:51] <nickrud> mikebot, you'll umount, change fstab, then mv /media/f:ntfs /media/fntfs , then remount
[02:51] <balu1> nickrud: so ya i think it is instaleld
[02:51] <djs_2_6> So, anyone have any ideas about breezy, avidemux, and spidermonkey??
[02:52] <mikebot> nickrud, okay thanks
[02:52] <nickrud> [dri]  VideoRAM = 16384, VirtualXres = 1280, VirtualYres= 1024, <-- this is the problem, you aren't using a low enough res
[02:52] <witte> djs_2_6 from my experience, on instance of firefox will run for 2-3 days and then crash.  Mozilla seems to last weeks soemtimes.
[02:52] <zyth> 16mb ram?
[02:52] <zyth> ickyy.
[02:52] <djs_2_6> witte - That, and it hates to have more than like 3 windows open with more than say 15-20 tabs...
[02:52] <japanlover> the universe check box won't stay checked either
[02:53] <nickrud> balu1, but, your accell says 1024x768 for 16 bit; you're not running accell on this log
[02:53] <jean> whats a PMMU
[02:53] <grout58> i need help getting a drive mounted
[02:53] <mikebot> nickrud, ugh, don't have permissions again
[02:53] <jean> Paged memory management unit
[02:53] <nickrud> zyth, 1998 tech, it blew our socks off :)
[02:53] <Ads_> omg
[02:53] <Ads_> i got my wireless working on my own ^_______________________^
[02:53] <Ads_> and i'm a n00b
[02:54] <zyth> nickrud, hehehe :D I remember X on an 8mb card... Windowmaker was soo pretty
[02:54] <nickrud> mikebot, you've had a working one; go back to it, then work your way forward again. It's exactly the same process
[02:54] <balu1> nickrud: ?? i saved the log right after the accel errored.
[02:54] <lewix> how can I make a website on linux ?
[02:54] <nickrud> balu1, but, the log's say otherwise
[02:54] <zyth> Ads_, I bet you read the instructions, eh?
[02:54] <mikebot> nickrud, haha okay
[02:54] <jean> Linux is easily portable to most general-purpose 32- or 64-bit architectures as long as they have a paged memory management unit (PMMU) and a port of the GNU C compiler (gcc) (part of The GNU Compiler Collection, GCC). Linux has also been ported to a number of architectures without a PMMU, although functionality is then obviously somewhat limited. See the Clinux project for more info.
[02:54] <Protocol1> ok if cedega doesnt support direct 3d does anyone know what does?
[02:54] <Ads_> zyth now i didn't
[02:54] <balu1> nickrud: hm..so what should i attempt?
[02:54] <Eleaf> I'm have DRASTIC dns issues
[02:55] <jean> what is this PMMU
[02:55] <lewix> is there a speific software /
[02:55] <lewix> ?
[02:55] <zyth> Protocol1, what are you talking about?
[02:55] <grout58> i cant mount /dev/hdb1
[02:55] <balu1> nickrud: i could edit the xorg.conf?? instead of trying to switch between accel/nonaccel?
[02:55] <Eleaf> Ubuntu is NOT using a dns for anything
[02:55] <grout58> it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:55] <witte> djs_2_6 - I've read someware about configuration file issues with both mozilla and firefox, but that seems like it would have been fixed ages ago.
[02:55] <Ads_> zyth: i just used ndiswrapper and it didn;'t work so i tried to gedit the interface listing and changed something and it worked :D
[02:55] <zyth> Eleaf, do you have an /etc/hosts ?
[02:55] <Eleaf> yes
[02:55] <Protocol1> zyth, playing in direct 3d format
[02:55] <zyth> Ads_, ahh.  So you couldn't do it again if needed? ;)
[02:55] <Eleaf> zyth, all was working fine, now it is not
[02:55] <grout58> i cant mount /dev/hdb1
[02:55] <grout58> it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:55] <Eleaf> DNS support waves in and out of ubuntu as the day goes on
[02:56] <zyth> Protocol1, as in games?
[02:56] <Eleaf> zyth, ^
[02:56] <Ads_> zyth: no i can now :)
[02:56] <nickrud> balu1, cp xorg.accell xorg.conf ; restart X. before you start X, verify that 16 depth maxes out at 1024x768
[02:56] <Protocol1> instead of open gl...can I?
[02:56] <Protocol1> yeah
[02:56] <Ads_> zyth: i just moved auto wlan0 above some lines
[02:56] <zyth> Protocol1, depends on the game with cedega.
[02:56] <Eleaf> This is a HORRIBLE bug if it is one
[02:56] <balu1> nickrud: how can i verify that??
[02:56] <Protocol1> ok
[02:56] <djs_2_6> witte - You would have figured, but really, Ubuntu is still teething, so I will be patient for a while...
[02:56] <grout58> it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:56] <Eleaf> how do I FORCE ubuntu to use dns?
[02:56] <zyth> Protocol1, check Cedega's compatibility lost.
[02:56] <Eleaf> It is currently using localhost as the dns, but I specified it to do this NOWHERE
[02:56] <zyth> Eleaf, msg me your /etc/hosts
[02:56] <djs_2_6> witte - BTW, I have even upgraded to the new 1.5 FF and it made no difference...
[02:56] <mikebot> nickrud, thanks for your help
[02:57] <grout58> can u help me nickrud
[02:57] <zyth> Protocol1, er.. list
[02:57] <lewix> I would like to make a website, but I'm quite new with linux(more precisely ubuntu). Do you know how I can make a website ?
[02:57] <V4Vendetta> lewix, sudo apt-get install bluefish
[02:57] <witte> djs_2_6 - Are you running 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu?  My experience is with the 64 bit flavor.
[02:57] <grout58> can u help me nickrud
[02:57] <lewix> thanks
[02:57] <percent_20> ubuntu 64? what is the default sound system it uses? does anyone know?
[02:57] <zyth> lewix, step 1) learn HTML., step 2) get an editor, step 3) design a page, 4) make some nice graphics...
[02:58] <djs_2_6> witte - 32 bit...
[02:58] <jean> witte: what is your cpu?
[02:58] <V4Vendetta> hmm, when i rebooted my PC it said mounting local filesystems failed, but everything looks okay
[02:58] <V4Vendetta> whats up /w that?
[02:58] <lewix> hmm Html for simple website but I'm talking about interactif website
[02:58] <devians_> my phpmyadmin directory got rm-rf'd, and apt wont remove or reinstall it. any ideas to get it working again?
[02:58] <lewix> V4Vendetta, thank you
[02:59] <V4Vendetta> lewix, no problem
[02:59] <witte> jean - Its dual opteron based .
[02:59] <grout58> nickrud i need ur help
[02:59] <MrRio> lewix: 'interactive' websites use javascript
[02:59] <balu1> nickrud: how do i verify that 16 depth maxes out at 1024 b4 i restart X?
[02:59] <nickrud> grout58, I'm back, lemme finish balu1
[02:59] <MrRio> lewix:: or if you mean websites that does stuff server-side, you'll need to learn PHP
[02:59] <devians_> noone?
[03:00] <xm07> how do you unpack deb files?
[03:00] <V4Vendetta> xm07, sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[03:00] <polpak> MrRio, java applets work too
[03:00] <grout58> how do i mount /dev/hdb1
[03:00] <balu1> i dunno how to verify
[03:00] <lewix> MrRio: I know about those languages, but I you guys know frontpage or dreamwaver in windows , those are powerful software to design website easily
[03:01] <grout58> how do i mount /dev/hdb1
[03:01] <bimberi> grout58: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /path/to/mountpoint
[03:01] <polpak> !info nvu
[03:01] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[03:01] <nickrud> balu1, after you copy over the xorg.conf, read it, make sure there are no resolutions higher for SubSection Display Depth 16
[03:01] <balu1> k
[03:02] <fatehaze> I got Phil Zimmermann to use Ubuntu
[03:02] <polpak> lewix, if you have universe enabled you can use sudo apt-get install nvu
[03:02] <balu1> nickrud: yes the 16 maxes out
[03:02] <fatehaze> He JUST NOW found out about GnuPG
[03:02] <eobanb> hi all.  i have ubuntu on an older dell latitude and i want to completely remove gnome and install fluxbox.  what's the best way to remove gnome?
[03:02] <nickrud> balu1, at 1024x768?
[03:02] <witte> I'm trying to troubleshoot an LSI 53C1030 scsi controller that is throwing scsi errors several times a week.  One of the common erros are:  mptbase: ioc1: IOCStatus(0x0047): SCSI Protocol Error And mptbase: ioc1: IOCStatus(0x0044): SCSI Data Overrun
[03:03] <lewix> polpak, thank, how do I execute it ?
[03:03] <nickrud> balu1, if yes, log out, ctl-alt-backspace, log back in
[03:03] <balu1> nickrud: yep.. is thre a proper way to restart the X? , i always go ctrl alt f1, then type "sudo killall -9 gdm"
[03:03] <balu1> nickrud: k ill do that
[03:03] <ads_> Anyone know how I can sort out this keyboard and mouse lag which occasional occurs?
[03:03] <witte> It has two scsi drives on a properly terminated U320 cable and one cd burner on a 68-50 pin converter on the second channel
[03:03] <ubuntutest> ctrl-alt-backspace?
[03:03] <HymnToLife> balu1> Ctrl+Alt+BkSpc
[03:03] <nickrud> grout58, what are you trying to do?
[03:03] <polpak> lewix, it should make an icon for it under either applications->internet or applications->programming
[03:04] <balu1> nickrud: ctrl+al+backspaced... im sitting at a terminal..its not really doing anything?
[03:04] <lewix> k thanks again, I've typed nvu in the terminal and it works
[03:04] <polpak> balu1, are you in X windows now?
[03:04] <nickrud> balu1, switch to terminal one, and copy over the /var/log/Xorg.0.log now, this will preserve the error messages
[03:04] <balu1> polpak: um..im at a terminal on a black screen.
[03:04] <witte> I've googled this and come up with only a few hits, suggesting there is an instability in the 2.6 kernel driver.
[03:05] <polpak> balu1, if not, (and you are using ubuntu not kunbuntu) try /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:05] <balu1> nickrud: how do i switch to terminal 1??
[03:05] <nickrud> balu1, ctl-alt-f1 :)
[03:05] <balu1> nickrud: god im a noob
[03:05] <nickrud> lol, it's all about context, you're sitting at a blank terminal 7, that's where X runs
[03:06] <mikebot> what's a good cd burner for ubuntu?
[03:06] <balu1> nickrud: k..now how do i go back to my desktop? ;p ctrl alt f7?
[03:06] <polpak> mikebot, there something wrong with the default?
[03:06] <nickrud> balu1, exactly
[03:06] <witte> I'm using an old BP5
[03:06] <mikebot> polpak, wasn't aware there was a default--what's it called?
[03:06] <V4Vendetta> hmm, when i rebooted my PC it said mounting local filesystems failed, but everything looks okay
[03:06] <V4Vendetta> whats up /w that?
[03:07] <polpak> mikebot, for audio cd's it's serpentine
[03:07] <mikebot> polpak, and that's already installed?...is there one program that can burn audio and data like a nero?
[03:07] <djs_2_6> So, anyone have any ideas about breezy, avidemux, and spidermonkey??
[03:07] <polpak> mikebot, k3b is pretty similiar to nero
[03:08] <mikebot> sudo apt-get install k3b?
[03:08] <polpak> mikebot, yeah, but it requires a bunch of kde liba
[03:08] <polpak> libs
[03:08] <RemyLaptop> hi, anyone know much about gdesklets ?
[03:08] <regeya> nickrud, it's darn rude of a kde app to be more full-featured...erm, I mean, confusingly full-featured...erm, I mean, confusing to the average user...
[03:08] <nickrud> regeya, you think he got it?
[03:08] <mikebot> polpak, oh i don't want that
[03:08] <mikebot> is there a gnome one?
[03:08] <V4Vendetta> RemyLaptop, ask away
[03:09] <balu1> nickrud: i want to check that i got u the right log b4 posting.. how can i do that
[03:09] <regeya> mikebot, um, there's, uh, shoot, gnomebaker?  that's not the one I'm thinking of...hang on, I'm doing a search
[03:09] <mikebot> regeya, hehe okay thanks
[03:09] <nickrud> balu1, if you copied /var/log/Xorg.0.log to home before you restarted X, you got the right one
[03:09] <regeya> there's a nice gnome app that does just about everything other than automating video dvd burns
[03:09] <balu1> nickrud:  i did that. k leme post it
[03:09] <RemyLaptop> V4Vendetta I'm getting an error when starting a network monitor... error: http://pastebin.com/600882
[03:10] <polpak> mikebot, the forum lists gnomebaker as a replacement app for nero
[03:10] <polpak> mikebot, I've never used it though
[03:10] <mikebot> polpak, okay thanks
[03:10] <carny> hello
[03:10] <nickrud> balu1, an easy way to post: gedit <file>, ctl-a , paste to pastebin
[03:10] <carny> how do i exit to the console in ubuntu 5.10?
[03:10] <thizilati> hello, i am trying to play mp3's but cannot. wich program should i use?
[03:10] <V4Vendetta> RemyLaptop, have you configged the gdesklet to use the right device, example: eth0
[03:10] <carny> sorry exit to the command line*
[03:10] <_jason> !mp3
[03:10] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:10] <nickrud> carny, alt-ctl-f 1 thru 6
[03:10] <regeya> !tell carny about restricted formats
[03:10] <polpak> carny, you want to stop X, or you just want a terminal?
[03:11] <RemyLaptop> V4Vendetta, yup.  It actually works...
[03:11] <polpak> tell thizilati about mp3
[03:11] <polpak> !tell thizilati about mp3
[03:11] <RemyLaptop> just that it gives me that error every time I load it...
[03:11] <V4Vendetta> RemyLaptop, have you tried more then 1 desklet?
[03:11] <mike-ee> !restricted
[03:11] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:11] <RemyLaptop> V4Vendetta I have heaps of others that work fine...  I haven't tried a different network monitor, no.
[03:11] <regeya> jeez louize
[03:12] <V4Vendetta> RemyLaptop, try another one, maybe that one is coded wrong, and are you using eth0 for internet?
[03:12] <ph1qt10n> How can i remove the Kubuntu splash screen and restore the original brown ubuntu splash screen?
[03:12] <regeya> most can be replaced by FreeFormats...tell that to my dvd player
[03:12] <polpak> ph1qt10n, use gdm instead of kdm
[03:12] <nickrud> lol
[03:12] <regeya> tell that to the quicktime developers, come to that.
[03:12] <_jason> ph1qt10n: first 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so' let me know when you finish that
[03:12] <RemyLaptop> V4Vendetta, will do.  yes, I am using eth0
[03:12] <djs_2_6> Hey, does anyone know where to find libmp4-0??
[03:13] <brenner> regeya: hence the "most" :P
[03:13] <balu1> nickrud:              part 1 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10163                 part 2  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10164                part 2
[03:13] <V4Vendetta> RemyLaptop, okay
[03:13] <Casanova> does someone here use scim?
[03:13] <regeya> brenner, well, mp3 can be replaced.  or it can't.  depends on who you ask. :->
[03:14] <mikebot> hrm gnomebaker doesn't seem to add itself to anything under Applications
[03:14] <nickrud> balu1, same error: [dri]  VideoRAM = 16384, VirtualXres = 1280, VirtualYres= 1024,
[03:14] <V4Vendetta> mikebot, it's under multimedia
[03:14] <V4Vendetta> mikebot, sound & video sorry
[03:14] <balu1> balu1: wtf..so did i ntot do it right?
[03:14] <mike-ee> why can't i get sound when playing AVIs?
[03:14] <grout58> anyone here use lighttp?
[03:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell mike-ee about multimedia
[03:15] <jcarter> woo! thanks ubuntu for autodetecting my 2200b/g
[03:15] <V4Vendetta> mike-ee, do you have the right codecs installed
[03:15] <mike-ee> porn is not the same without audio =T
[03:15] <regeya> considering that there are well-funded orgs in this country who don't think I have the right to take a CD home and rip it to listen to on my computer, I don't worry myself overly much about MP3. besides, Fraunhofer is a german company.  just let 'em sue someone for private use of an unlicensed idea.
[03:15] <nickrud> balu1, make your copy of the accell to xorg, then paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf (the one you intend to be accellerated)
[03:15] <mikebot> V4Vendetta, ah, thanks
[03:15] <RemyLaptop> anyone know if you can get Yahoo Widgets to work on linux ?  http://widgets.yahoo.com
[03:15] <mike-ee> V4Vendetta i have the cipherfunk codec package installed
[03:15] <V4Vendetta> mike-e, np
[03:15] <Toma-> mike-ee: some say theres some issues with widows media 9 codecs...
[03:15] <PuppiesOnAcid> Is there any way to make xchat-gnome operate like the xchat of olde?
[03:15] <mikebot> V4Vendetta, this burns audio cds too?
[03:15] <ubi_SK> hello there, sorry to bother you.  I`m a windows user and Ive a problem trying to run ubuntu from the live cd.  The loading process dies at "Startin Hotplug Subsystem". Does anyone know a way to solve it?
[03:15] <_jason> ph1qt10n: well after you finish updating alternatives, you have to do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)'
[03:16] <mikebot> V4Vendetta, oh i see it, nevermind
[03:16] <nickrud> ahFeel, I finally can get rid of the ugly xubuntu splash screen
[03:16] <Toma-> ubi_SK: sounds like some bad harware.
[03:16] <nickrud> sorry ahFeel
[03:16] <mikebot> so does anyone here use banshee?
[03:17] <ubi_SK> thanks Toma-
[03:17] <intelikey> ubi_SK start with nohotplug
[03:17] <adam_> I'm having trouble with printing and margins -- things print outside their margins regardless of what I do the size of the paper is letter: 8-1/2" x 11" and the printer is an HP PSC 1315 For example, whenever I print something in Firefox, everything shows up fine except the top text (page number and date), they're cut off (only a very small portion of the text shows)
[03:17] <balu1> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10166 here u are
[03:17] <Toma-> ubi_SK: np. doubt thats going to help tho :/ try the dapper/flight 5 live cd?
[03:17] <adam_> changing the margin in Firefox from 0.5" to 1.0" changed nothing
[03:17] <jcarter> has anyone here gotten xgl working?
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> In Windows I used to get messages about extending my battery life (laptop) by setting thresholds for battery charge while plugged into the AC adaptor, and completely discharging and recharging the battery periodically.  Can/should I do this in Ubuntu, and how?
[03:18] <ubi_SK> sorry, I only have Ubuntu 5.1.  How do I sart without hotplug?
[03:18] <Toma-> jcarter: i tried it, but got lots and lots of artifacts. ask in #ubuntu+1 and/or #xgl
[03:18] <jcarter> toma: oh, ok, thanks
[03:18] <Jared[1] > hey, quick question about Grub
[03:18] <nickrud> PuppiesOnAcid, apt-get install xhat
[03:18] <nickrud> *xchat
[03:19] <jean> can someone tell me if when you compile a kernel theres an option for sempron in the list in one of the versions?
[03:19] <Jared[1] > I installed it in the MBR of one of my drives, and when I try to boot using it, it just repeats the text "GRUB" many times
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> ubi_SK: You can hit Ctrl-C when it hangs to skip it in the startup process.
[03:19] <Toma-> jean: nope. but it still works as a k7, or if its a 64-bit sempron, k8
[03:19] <DarkMageZ> has anyone installed ut2k4?, how did it go?
[03:19] <ubi_SK> thanks tonyyarusso, bot Ive already tried that
[03:19] <Toma-> DarkMageZ: yep, works fine
[03:19] <nickrud> balu1, that one looks right. you got DefaultDepth 16, & Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" in Depth 16
[03:19] <adam_> anyone know why I might be having trouble with printer margins in Ubuntu?
[03:20] <grout58> i need to restart lighttp whats the command?
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> ubi_SK: Oh, okay.
[03:20] <intelikey> Jared[1]  are you changing bios setting to cause boot from that drive ?
[03:20] <brenner> i thought all semprons were 32bit
[03:20] <Dingbat> Question:  How do I take a screenshot in KDE?
[03:20] <balu1> nickrud: right..maybe im doing the error logging wrong
[03:20] <Jared[1] > yeah, it is set to boot from that drive
[03:20] <balu1> nickrud: can u out line it step by step..now that i ahve the xorg.conf as accel
[03:20] <Toma-> nah, new semprons are 64bit socket 754. ive got a 64-bit sempron 3100 :)
[03:20] <Jared[1] > when I installed grub on it, I did the following:
[03:20] <Jared[1] > root (hd5,0)
[03:20] <Jared[1] > setup (hd2)
[03:20] <nickrud> balu1, the error log gets written over every time you restart X
[03:21] <ubi_SK> do you know how to diable hotplug in the startup?
[03:21] <Jared[1] > because my /boot partition is on hd5 in the first parition, and I want to boot off of drive hd2
[03:21] <Toma-> ubi_SK: intelikey told you, nohotplug at the boot line options
[03:21] <Makura> Do favorite pages in Firefox have a place on the harddrive?  If so, where is the folder where they are kept?
[03:21] <nickrud> balu1, your xorg is right, and you said you have libglide3 installed, that's all you need to do.
[03:21] <balu1> nickrud:  i understand but if thats the case, the weird error log u see is either a left over, or i didnt copy it over at the right time?
[03:21] <Toma-> darn friends using outlook. they keep sending me virus's :D *chuckle*
[03:21] <nickrud> balu1, probably not at the right time.
[03:22] <balu1> nickrud: yes but X doesnt restart.
[03:22] <Dingbat> Question:  How do I take a screenshot in KDE?
[03:22] <ubi_SK> thaks you all very much, I ll try it right away
[03:22] <Toma-> Dingbat: run ksnapshot
[03:22] <balu1> nickrud: k so thats what i meant.. can u out line step by step starting from copying xorg.conf as my accel file
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> Makura: There's a file containing them, I think something like ~/.mozilla/bookmarks.html.
[03:22] <nickrud> balu1, I ran that near exact xorg for 4 years.
[03:22] <Jared[1] > has anyone had this problem with grub?  it's a very difficult thing to search for on google
[03:22] <intelikey> Jared[1]  what i'm asking is if the bios has changed sense you set that up.   cause mbr is read and grub expects that to be hd0       a confused way to handel booting if you ask me.    that's why i like lilo.
[03:22] <RemyLaptop> anyone have any words to recommend superkaramba over gdesklets ?
[03:22] <Makura> tonyyarusso: Thanks
[03:22] <balu1> nickrud: i dnt get it, why on earth is it not workin on my end ;x
[03:23] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: depends on if youre using KDE or gnome
[03:23] <Dingbat> Thank you Toma-
[03:23] <nickrud> balu1, it makes better sense for now, to get a working xorg, then copy it over to accell
[03:23] <RemyLaptop> using gnome
[03:23] <Toma-> Dingbat: np
[03:23] <Unity> Remenic: gdesklets are =( but i never tried the other one
[03:23] <Jared[1] > intelikey: yes, I had to tell the bios to boot off of the drive where I installed Grub in the MBR
[03:23] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: stick to gdesklets
[03:23] <RemyLaptop> is superkaramba kde only ?
[03:23] <RemyLaptop> k
[03:23] <balu1> nickrud: but thatd mean no 3d accel right?
[03:23] <DarkMageZ> Toma-: did u install the patch?
[03:23] <Toma-> RemyLaptop: not kde ONLY, just it used kde libs so itll take up more ram
[03:23] <RemyLaptop> I was checking out yahoo widgets, and they have soooo many cool widgets.
[03:23] <nickrud> balu1, no, get it right, then save the working xorg
[03:23] <Jared[1] > intelikey: you can boot using grub from any drive, right?  why does it expect it to be hd0?
[03:23] <Toma-> DarkMageZ: what patch? just used the linux installer and run
[03:23] <RemyLaptop> gdesklets has some cool stuff, but widgets craps all over it :-P
[03:24] <nickrud> balu1, gotta go for 5-10 minutes
[03:24] <ph1qt10n> how can i change the usplash?
[03:24] <percent_20> !xgl
[03:24] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:24] <_jason> ph1qt10n: I just told you :/
[03:24] <balu1> nickrud: thats what i have been attempting.. , k np, thanks for ur time tho.. appreciate it
[03:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell ph1qt10n about usplashchange
[03:24] <percent_20> !dapper
[03:24] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[03:24] <abarbaccia> hey all - if i have a doc file and want it to be a pdf is there any linux tool to accomplish this easily?
[03:24] <Jared[1] > use openoffice writer
[03:25] <_jason> abarbaccia: OOo writer exports to pdf
[03:25] <abarbaccia> ooo fun
[03:25] <DarkMageZ> Toma-: oh, well there's an offical patch, bringing it to 3355, making it equal to the windows version
[03:25] <abarbaccia> thanks guys
[03:25] <abarbaccia> didn't even know that
[03:25] <Toma-> _jason: any idea on how to make your own artwork.so? :)
[03:25] <_jason> !usplash
[03:25] <ubotu> [usplash]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[03:25] <ph1qt10n> thanks _jason
[03:25] <Toma-> DarkMageZ: oic. i dont play online with the fullversion :/ not enough players... only the demo has lots of players in my area
[03:26] <DarkMageZ> Toma-: ah, k, i guess i'll just see if i can get the patch working, should be fun
[03:26] <Toma-> thx _jason
[03:26] <intelikey> Jared[1]  that's the problem then.   grub is looking for the bios drive hd5 which is now bios drive hd0  ie you confused grub by changing bios settings.     i'm not sure there is a way around what you have done.    if you can boot a grub disk with the present bios setting and reconfigure grub to act according to this new bios settings it should then boot.
[03:26] <NickNoze> hello
[03:27] <NickNoze> I want to tru ubuntu
[03:27] <NickNoze> how do ifigure out whichdvdtodownload
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> Jared[1] , intelikey: What about the live CD way of fixing grub problems?
[03:27] <NickNoze> there are3
[03:27] <hejin>  /msg treetree Register treetree
[03:27] <Jared[1] > intelikey:  well the thing is, I have my /boot on one drive, and I have the Grub bootloader in the MBR of another drive
[03:28] <Toma-> NickNoze: what type of CPU/PC do you have?
[03:28] <NickNoze> well, an HP and it is 5 years old
[03:28] <Jared[1] > intelikey: so you're saying that the drive numbers get changed around depending on which one is set as the boot drive?
[03:28] <NickNoze> cpu... AMD933 Mhz
[03:28] <intelikey> tonyyarusso that is kinda what i said.   but if he has to change bios to boot the live then he wont be able to fix it there either.
[03:28] <haasteem> hi, i am looking for a good podcasting application... any suggestions?
[03:28] <Toma-> NickNoze: get the 386 version
[03:28] <NickNoze> ok.thanks
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Point.  Wasn't really following, but caught a little bit.
[03:28] <Toma-> haasteem: what is podcasting?
[03:28] <Jared[1] > intelikey: I haven't changed the bios settings since I installed grub in the MBR
[03:28] <thizilati> hmm, i have installed w32codecs and gstreamer, but i still cannot play mp3's. any insights?
[03:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell thizilati about mp3
[03:29] <lullabud> Toma-: podcasting is like rss for audio files.
[03:29] <percent_20> !alsa
[03:29] <ubotu> alsa is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[03:29] <thizilati> _jaon: ive read that page and it did not help
[03:29] <lullabud> instead of downloading news articles, it downloads audio files.
[03:29] <Toma-> internet radio?
[03:29] <lullabud> sorta like that, yeah.
[03:29] <haasteem> Toma: that's it
[03:29] <haasteem> Toma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast
[03:29] <Toma-> haasteem: shoutcast or icecast
[03:30] <Jared[1] > intelikey: also, the drive I'm trying to install it on is on a 3rd party IDE PCI card
[03:30] <powder> howdy
[03:30] <Jared[1] > intelikey: which my BIOS sees as a SCSI card
[03:30] <_jason> thizilati: what does 'apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad | grep -i Installed' say?
[03:30] <lullabud> Toma-: it's not a live stream, it actually downloads an mp3.
[03:30] <Toma-> haasteem: icecast or darkice... i used to run a radio station with darkice :D
[03:30] <grout58> what do i gotta do so i dont have to mount /dev/hdb1 /var/www/ everytime i reboot
[03:30] <grout58> what do i gotta do so i dont have to mount /dev/hdb1 /var/www/ everytime i reboot
[03:30] <Toma-> oh.
[03:31] <bimberi> lullabud: an app to manage podcast feeds?  ipodder
[03:31] <Toma-> isnt that illegal?
[03:31] <thizilati> Installed: 0.8.12-0unofficialubuntu1
[03:31] <Eleaf> ?
[03:31] <Eleaf> lol
[03:31] <Jared[1] > grout58: edit your /etc/fstab file to include that drive
[03:31] <ve> how can I bind vncserver (Xvnc) to a specific interface, so it only listens on my LAN segment
[03:31] <Jared[1] > grout58: you should be able to figure it out from the other lines in that file
[03:31] <lullabud> Toma-: just like anything people could use it to do illegal things, but most of it is authorized.
[03:31] <lullabud> Toma-: for instance, NPR has most of their radio shows available as podcasts.
[03:31] <Toma-> i see.
[03:31] <Jared[1] > grout58: but, you should read man fstab
[03:31] <_jason> thizilati: unofficialubuntu? what is that... pastebin 'apt-cache policy apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad | grep -i Installed
[03:32] <_jason> thizilati: bah typo, I mean 'apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad'
[03:32] <bimberi> Toma-: as does the ABC over 'ere :)
[03:32] <lullabud> bimberi: i'm not looking for a podcast manager, i have a mac. ;-)
[03:32] <nalioth> !offtopic
[03:32] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[03:32] <haasteem> Toma: ok, i'll look into it... thanks
[03:32] <Toma-> so P2P networks should just run a small radio station and say that its all just podcasting? :)
[03:32] <bimberi> lullabud: kk, i wasn't sure from your Q
[03:32] <intelikey> Jared[1]  i thought you just told me you did ?      Jared[1]  this is what you are up against.   linux does NOT use bios to determine hdd addressing.  but mbr looks on the address you tell it, according to what bios address it can access.   i.e.  if you are reading an mbr from something besides /dev/hda you will probably have problems with grub.    can it be worked out.  short answer yes.   but not easily
[03:33] <Jared[1] > intelikey: okay, thanks for your help
[03:33] <thizilati> _jason: check pastebin
[03:33] <_jason> thizilati: link?
[03:34] <intelikey> Jared[1]  lilo loads into mbr  so it does not suffer from that restriction.
[03:34] <thizilati> _jason: http://pastebin.com/600918
[03:34] <_jason> thizilati: what are you playing the file with? and what happens when you try?
[03:35] <thizilati> _jason: ive tried totem and rhythmbox, totem says decoder not found, while rhythmbox acts like its going to play it for a split second then does nothing
[03:36] <nekostar> DAM
[03:36] <nekostar> why is k3b burning at 2x all the time?!?!?!
[03:36] <nickrud> balu1, ping
[03:36] <denver> its not
[03:36] <_jason> thizilati: run 'gst-register-0.8' and restart the players
[03:36] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to run updates in terminal instead of using synaptic. I know of sudo apt-get update. but is there something else i have to do?
[03:36] <balu1> nickrud: sup?
[03:36] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha, sudo apt-get update
[03:36] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha, sudo apt-get upgrade :)
[03:37] <nickrud> balu1, any progress?
[03:37] <bimberi> lullabud: and now i realise it was haasteem who asked anyway (D'Oh).   hasteem:  ipodder
[03:37] <balu1> nickrud: nope :(
[03:37] <ve> OmegaAlpha: aptitude?
[03:37] <balu1> nickrud: i made a new log.. where do  i check fo rthe resolutoin thing
[03:38] <OmegaAlpha> ve, forgot about that. but are there parameters ?
[03:38] <ve> non necessary
[03:38] <ve> none
[03:38] <intelikey> what is the easiest way to start an app every time twm starts ?   .Xresources ?
[03:39] <intelikey> anybody know ?
[03:39] <nickrud> balu1, starting from the bottom of the log, you wanna look roughly 90 lines back
[03:39] <ve> so, anyone know how to vncserver (Xvnc) to a specific interface, so it only listens on my LAN segment?
[03:39] <thizilati> _jason: well im further, its doing more than before. XMMS showed up under apps > sound& video, and it plays the song. Except it's giving me an error about my sound card.
[03:39] <balu1> nickrud: k
[03:39] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, vncserver --help  ?
[03:40] <Stargazers> Hi
[03:40] <nickrud> balu1, if nothing else, you'll learn to read X logs, which are long :)
[03:40] <_jason> thizilati: check the output, make sure it uses esd or alas, whichever you use.  Does it work in totem now?
[03:40] <haasteem> bimberi: ok... i see it is in the repository... that's good ;)
[03:40] <_jason> thizilati: s/alas/alsa
[03:40] <intelikey> i want links2 to open a .gif  when i login to twm.    anyone ever mess with this before ?
[03:40] <Stargazers> How I can get URL from PHP-file? I mean, I use wget to download one PHP-file and then I need to get URL on $URL variable. How I can do that?
[03:40] <brenner> anyone set up a gmail notifier?
[03:40] <_jason> brenner: yes
[03:40] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, refers me to Xvnc..which has options for port, and localhost only, but nothing to bind to specific interface/IP
[03:41] <brenner> _jason: which one/how'd you do it?
[03:41] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, hmm strange.  Try man xvnc
[03:41] <OmegaAlpha> ve, im not familiar with aptitude. how would i do what the auto updater does... when you see it appearing on the top panel bar
[03:41] <FunnyLookinHat> "man xvnc"
[03:41] <thizilati> _jason: how do i check the output?
[03:41] <_jason> thizilati: xmms preferences
[03:41] <trym> I have added a repository to be able to install kde 3.5.1.. What do I have to do afterwards to install it? doing a upgrade doesnt cut it
[03:42] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, essentially the same as Xvnc --help
[03:42] <FunnyLookinHat> OmegaAlpha, apt-get upgrade I believe is what you are looking for
[03:42] <Stargazers> Anyone any ideas?
[03:42] <_jason> brenner: gmail-notifier in the repos.  Just enable pop in your settings through the normal gmail web interface and then configure gmail-notifier with your username and password
[03:42] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, that's unfortunate.  I assume you already googled and all, right?  Becasue that's whree i owuld look next
[03:42] <_jason> brenner: gmail-notify is the acutal package name
[03:43] <brenner> _jason: was wondering why i couldn't find it. thanks
[03:43] <ve> OmegaAlpha, u to Update, then g to Download/Install?
[03:43] <TheWrench> Hi, I am reformatting my hard drive (200GB) and would like to try having multiple multiple operating systems.
[03:43] <ve> OmegaAlpha, may have to mark all items in Upgraded category first
[03:43] <TheWrench> Windows XP home and Ubuntu.
[03:43] <balu1> nickrud: i c what ur saying about the log tho.. even dri says ur 3d will only work when damn res is set right, all in the log ;x
[03:43] <TheWrench> what size partitions should I use?
[03:43] <balu1> prety helpful stuf
[03:43] <ve> TheWrench: grub is your friend
[03:44] <nickrud> X is pretty good, some others are not so clear
[03:44] <OmegaAlpha> doesnt apt-get upgrade, upgrade the kernel?
[03:44] <trym> help? :)
[03:44] <ve> OmegaAlpha, generally..if you haven't compiled a custom one
[03:44] <FunnyLookinHat> TheWrench, partition sizes?  Well you probably only need 10 gig for ubuntu healthy...  but XP needs at least 25 to be a good install
[03:44] <nickrud> balu1, but you can nearly always get a decent error log, sometimes you just have to turn on an option
[03:45] <intelikey> TheWrench i would sujest about 10g each win ntfs  and  ubuntu ext3   then a media partition of about 40g  fat32 that either os can access easily
[03:45] <Rower> swe?
[03:45] <balu1> nickrud:  well.. this new error log sasy samething about virtual x res and y res..
[03:45] <OmegaAlpha> well what im trying to do is.. i have updates ready right now on the panelbar but it doesnt install them for some reason and does nothing
[03:45] <brenner> _jason: i assume it's meant to be run in the background?
[03:46] <nickrud> balu1, one I've looked at, or a new one
[03:46] <OmegaAlpha> soi figured trying to do it from terminal. i did sudo apt-get update but that doesnt seem to get rid of the updates on the panel bar from flashing
[03:46] <_jason> brenner: shows up in notifaction area
[03:46] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, any other ideas re: vnc?
[03:46] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, yea...  im googling, hold on
[03:46] <ArthurB> apt-get update firstt
[03:46] <nickrud> heh, new
[03:46] <brenner> _jason:
[03:46] <brenner> _jason: ah
[03:46] <balu1> nickrud: this is what i do .. tellme if im wrong 1) i replace the xorg.conf w/ the accel version, then i do a ctrl+alt+ backspace, and then at the terminal .. i do the sudo cp /var/log/xorg.0.conf /home/baluvideo.log  and then i revert to a working xorg.conf so i can get to my desktop
[03:46] <ArthurB> and apt-get upgrade then
[03:47] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, tried xvnc -interface eth0 ?
[03:47] <balu1> nickrud: the new one i jst took has the samething in it
[03:47] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, guess I could do the localhost thing and just ssh connect with port forward
[03:47] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, no....lemme try
[03:47] <OmegaAlpha> oh wait nmd now its actually installing them..
[03:47] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, I'm seeing a patch update here that says -interface should work
[03:47] <nickrud> balu1, I'd do those steps, just as you have them. Maybe wait about 20 sec, before going to the text console
[03:48] <balu1> nickrud: ya thats what i did..the logs not right tho?
[03:48] <OmegaAlpha> anyways should i do the sudo apt-get upgrade? people in the past told me that i shouldn't.
[03:49] <nickrud> balu1, if it's the one that says 1280x1024, no, you're not getting the right data into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:49] <FunnyLookinHat> OmegaAlpha, I personally think it doesn't make much of a difference.  Since ubuntu repos are all fairly well tested you should be ok doing that
[03:49] <ph1qt10n> !wine
[03:49] <am3r1ca> HELP !! i have a FAT32 partition but cant mount it, getting some weird erro, already edited fstab, but still wont work
[03:49] <FunnyLookinHat> OmegaAlpha, you shouldn't always do taht with debian etch /unstable however unless you like to live on the wild side
[03:49] <Rower> is there a web browser in the terminal i can use?
[03:49] <intelikey> am3r1ca show the line in /etc/fstab please
[03:49] <_jason> Rower: lynx
[03:49] <thizilati> _jason: where do i find preferences in xmms?
[03:50] <Rower> _jason: thanx..
[03:50] <am3r1ca> intelikey here ??
[03:50] <balu1> nickrud ; grrrrrrrr...
[03:50] <intelikey> am3r1ca yes just the one line
[03:50] <thizilati> _jason: nevermind
[03:50] <FunnyLookinHat> thizilati, you click the top left part of XMMS
[03:50] <FunnyLookinHat> ; )
[03:50] <carny> hello
[03:50] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, did that work??
[03:50] <TheWrench> ok, so 25GB (NTFS) for windows, 10GB (ext3) for Ububtu, mabye 100GB (fat32) for media.
[03:50] <balu1> nickrud: how can just chang ethe resolution of my system?? Like sasy "just load 1024  as a default
[03:50] <am3r1ca> intelikey :dev/sda7    /home/am3r1ca/dos        vfat user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0   0
[03:50] <carny> im trying to install ati drivers for my rage mobility m1
[03:50] <OmegaAlpha> btw anyone know how to recover files from a screwy partition?
[03:51] <carny> and i get the error message: ./aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open
[03:51] <FunnyLookinHat> TheWrench, that would work fairly well probably
[03:51] <carny> could anyone please help me?
[03:51] <ve> OmegaAlpha, define screwy?
[03:51] <TheWrench> I also have lots of big programs for windows (MATLAB, Mathematica,VisualStudio...etc) should I makea big NTFS partition forthose?
[03:51] <FunnyLookinHat> TheWrench, probably.
[03:51] <am3r1ca> intelikey when i run the comand dmesg | tail i get a weird error
[03:52] <nickrud> balu1, lol, it is a total pain for old cards. I bought an nvidia just so I could get away from voodoo3 gl
[03:52] <_jason> TheWrench: I believe you can run matlab and mathematica in linux
[03:52] <balu1> nickrud: hm maybe thats what ill do , just pick up a cheap card.. im doing this cuz it wa the only spare card around
[03:52] <nickrud> I went as far as a 5200, I throw money :)
[03:52] <tritium> you can, _jason
[03:52] <intelikey> am3r1ca  how about  " dev/sda7    /home/am3r1ca/dos        vfat       users,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0   0  "  adding users should allow you to mount it.   you could add auto  so that it would be auto.         show the "weird" error.
[03:52] <FunnyLookinHat> _jason, TheWrench , you can run those programs in linux, but you need to purchase the linux versions.
[03:52] <OmegaAlpha> ve, screwy as in, i can see it on linux, but not exactly what should be there, i cant access it on windows. but can see it with partition magic
[03:53] <_jason> FunnyLookinHat, TheWrench: I know my matlab came with the linux version on the same cd
[03:53] <balu1> nickrud: do u know how to install a joystick/ ;p
[03:53] <nickrud> the voodoo was a great 2d card for the machine I ran it on.
[03:53] <FunnyLookinHat> _jason, oh reallly?  that's freakin awesome!
[03:53] <flodine> anyone use mtail for there log files?
[03:53] <OmegaAlpha> ve, the directories are there as they shoudl be but once you access them.. the files arent there but a bunch of files written in ascii characters
[03:53] <nickrud> Joystick = 5 years of frustration
[03:53] <balu1> nickrud: ya 2d works just fine
[03:53] <balu1> nickrud: god bless ubuntu ;p
[03:53] <tritium> _jason: student version?
[03:53] <_jason> FunnyLookinHat: yeah, I was pretty surprised when I saw it
[03:53] <am3r1ca> intelikey the erro is [4295331.193000]  FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
[03:53] <am3r1ca> [4295331.198000]  FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors
[03:53] <am3r1ca> [4295331.198000]  VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda7.
[03:54] <_jason> tritium: it was actually a friends, not sure
[03:54] <am3r1ca> sory
[03:54] <ve> OmegaAlpha, what does fsck have to say about it?
[03:54] <xm07> im new to linux how would i run "./install.sh" as root
[03:54] <OmegaAlpha> ve, also i can no longer move or resize the partition in a partition program on windows or linux. also i have errors - something about missing clusters
[03:54] <ve> OmegaAlpha, does it report it as clean?
[03:54] <asdfasdfn__> what the file equivalent for /etc/ld.so.conf in ubuntu?
[03:54] <_jason> xm07: what are you trying to install?
[03:54] <xm07> divx
[03:54] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, On ubuntu, you do sudo ./install.sh
[03:54] <xm07> ok thx
[03:54] <OmegaAlpha> ve whats fsck?
[03:54] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, but wait!
[03:54] <tritium> asdfasdfn__: /etc/ld.so.conf ;)
[03:55] <_jason> xm07: don't do that
[03:55] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, Depending on what you are trying to install, I would suggest using synaptic
[03:55] <xm07> good thing i didnt
[03:55] <balu1> nickrud: so no easy way to detect a joystick huh?
[03:55] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, What are you trying to install?
[03:55] <xm07> the divx codec for linux
[03:55] <intelikey> am3r1ca what does  fdisk -l /dev/sda7     tell us ?
[03:55] <FunnyLookinHat> oh dude
[03:55] <thizilati> fuck my soundcard isnt even detected
[03:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell xm07 about restricted
[03:55] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, Go to System - Administration - Synaptic
[03:55] <FunnyLookinHat> xm07, yea do what ubotu tells u
[03:55] <intelikey> or just sda
[03:55] <nickrud> balu1, I should refine that: 2 years of frustration, and 3 years of not really caring. I haven
[03:55] <nickrud> 't had a joystick recently, anyway.
[03:55] <am3r1ca> intelikey it says : Cannot open /dev/sda7
[03:56] <intelikey> or just sda
[03:56] <freenodes> how do i make from bootable cd to a bootable dvd ?
[03:56] <intelikey> am3r1ca what does  fdisk -l /dev/sda     tell us ?
[03:56] <asdfasdfn__> tritium, this file does not exist here
[03:56] <mist> hi, i'm working on ubuntu on intel macs, and i'd like to discuss booting.... is anyone here who would like to talk about that? :-)
[03:56] <intelikey> sorry for the   7  up there.
[03:56] <OmegaAlpha> ve, i dont know what fsck is...
[03:56] <tritium> asdfasdfn__: did you delete it?
[03:56] <ve> OmegaAlpha, fsck is file system check
[03:56] <asdfasdfn__> tritium, no :>
[03:56] <am3r1ca> intelikey it says : Cannot open /dev/sda7
[03:56] <ve> OmegaAlpha, "man fsck"
[03:56] <OmegaAlpha> ve, well i justentered it and i dont think it sees the hd
[03:56] <lewix> what can I do to be able to watch videos online
[03:56] <intelikey> am3r1ca please read.
[03:57] <TheWrench> ok, so perhaps: 25GB (NTFS) for windows, 10GB (ext3) for Ububtu, 100GB (fat32) for media, 40GB (NTFS) for windows application, 25GB (ext3) for Ubuntu applications.  Total 200GB.
[03:57] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, I would install xine
[03:57] <_jason> lewix: mplayer plug-in works well for me
[03:57] <TheWrench> what doyou think?
[03:57] <OmegaAlpha> ve, so i entered no for it to continue becuase it says it can cause severe damage
[03:57] <lewix> i have xine but apparently there is an error
[03:57] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, Try installing gxine package as well
[03:57] <am3r1ca> intelikey i ran the command fdisk -l, and the terminal says : intelikey it says : Cannot open /dev/sda7
[03:57] <ve> OmegaAlpha, you'll want to unmount the drive and run fsck against only that drive via the device name
[03:58] <lewix> xine engine failed to start.
[03:58] <lewix> No demuxer found - stream format not recognised.
[03:58] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell lewix about restricted formats
[03:58] <lewix> FunnyLookinHat, sorry but Iam truly a newbie, can you be more explicit
[03:58] <intelikey> am3r1ca eeeek      then that sounds like a job for testdisk
[03:58] <_jason> lewix: install w32codecs (see ubotu's message)
[03:58] <OmegaAlpha> ve, ok yeah i was just about to do that.. but now the damn drive wont stop reading hehe.  I hope it sees it once i unmount it
[03:58] <am3r1ca> intelikey it cant open /dev/sda7
[03:58] <Falstius> TheWrench: if you mostly use linux, consider using ext3 for your media partition and loading an ext3 driver in windows.
[03:58] <ve> OmegaAlpha, run "mount" to see device name.....run "umount /dev/foo", then "fsck /dev/foo"
[03:58] <TheWrench> I have never used Linux before.
[03:59] <am3r1ca> intelikey how to testdisk ??
[03:59] <lewix> I already installed those package
[03:59] <intelikey> am3r1ca bad partition table.   testdisk might be able to recover it.
[03:59] <crxyem> TheWrench:  ext3 drivers work great
[03:59] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, sure thing
[03:59] <lewix> ...
[03:59] <intelikey> am3r1ca sudo apt-get install testdisk && testdisk
[03:59] <_jason> lewix: try mplayer :)
[03:59] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, The problem is that you most likely don't have the libs installed for the codecs you are trying to view
[03:59] <Falstius> TheWrench: you don't need 25GB for apps ... I have 7.5 GB for apps and that is just barely halffull (and I have most things installed twice! 32/64 bits)
[03:59] <intelikey> or sudo the second
[03:59] <intelikey> am3r1ca sudo apt-get install testdisk && sudo testdisk
[04:00] <Falstius> TheWrench: and that includes all of the system apps.
[04:00] <crxyem> so anyone falmiliar with repartioning hard disk space (dual boot winxp and ubuntu) ??? I need to give Ubuntu more room
[04:00] <Falstius> crxyem: back up your date first ...
[04:00] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, this site has names of many packages you will need to get those restricted formats to play, such as mp3
[04:00] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:00] <freenodes> how do i make from a live bootable cd to a live bootable dvd ?
[04:00] <Toma-> would a dapper kernel run on breezy? just compiled 2.6.15 and getting some nasty driver errors.
[04:00] <am3r1ca> intelikey, ok but check this out, the fat 32 partition was created with the ubuntu instalation, i created it, and in windows when i acessed the partion, it had all these folders in it
[04:01] <lewix> thanks again, give me one moment..just the time to read throughout the article
[04:01] <am3r1ca> i deleted them all, were they important ???
[04:01] <crxyem> not a problem , my question would be I need to repart my NTFS drive in winxp, and then add more space to / and /home , anything Ishould be aware of, will I need to edit grub
[04:01] <balu1> nickrud:  tdfx, im assuming, IS the right driver for the card right?? not glide?
[04:01] <FunnyLookinHat> lewix, ok, you will install all of these packages via synaptic,   Found at System - Administration - Synaptic
[04:01] <am3r1ca> in windows the partition works fine, it just doesn work in ubuntu
[04:01] <intelikey> am3r1ca it is a clean partition ?      format it ?
[04:02] <Rower> how to install lynx?
[04:02] <am3r1ca> intelikey, yeah i just formated it in windows
[04:02] <_jason> Rower: you should have it, otherwise probably sudo apt-get install lynx
[04:02] <Falstius> crxyem: if you are only increase the size of the current partitions you won't need to edit grub.  The easiest way is to download an ubuntu or knoppix live cd and use the partition tools there.
[04:02] <Rower> thanx
[04:02] <TheWrench> ok, all advice considered.
[04:02] <intelikey> formated to fat32  or ntfs ?
[04:02] <Falstius> gparted or qparted.
[04:02] <TheWrench>  25GB (NTFS) for windows, 10GB (ext3) for Ububtu, 110GB (fat32) for media, 40GB (NTFS) for windows application, 15GB (ext3) for Ubuntu applications. Total 200GB.
[04:03] <Rower> _jason: if i have it i only have to type lynx to start it?
[04:03] <_jason> Rower: yep
[04:03] <balu1> nickrud: the other thing...when i do an LSPCI...i get hex values (in terminal 1) ..
[04:03] <lgc> Hello all from Mexico!
[04:03] <crxyem> I didn;'t think you could partition ntfs space with knoppix of ubuntu
[04:03] <nickrud> balu1, yes. The only thing that comes to mind, is possibly your monitor refresh rates are no quite right. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10166 , along with libglide3 must work
[04:04] <Rower> _jason: it told me that the package lynx wasnt there..
[04:04] <TheWrench> So you think that this distributionis not possible?
[04:04] <_jason> !info lynx
[04:04] <ubotu> lynx: (Text-mode WWW Browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2.8.5-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1811 kB, Installed size: 4580 kB
[04:04] <Falstius> TheWrench: Why don't you try 15 GB for windows, 40 GB for your warez, 10 GB for /, 15 GB for /home and the rest for media.
[04:04] <balu1> nickrud:  well i want to make sure im putting the right pci slot also.. when i do lspci,  my vid card value is 0000:01:00.0
[04:04] <Falstius> plus 2 GB swap.
[04:04] <balu1> nickrud: what par tof that is the PCI card value?
[04:04] <percent_20> !bluetooth
[04:04] <ubotu> I heard bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[04:04] <_jason> Rower: what version of ubuntu are you running and what kind of install did you do?
[04:05] <nickrud> balu1, pci is ok
[04:05] <Rower> server install
[04:05] <ve> FunnyLookinHat, got sidetracked....still messing with it
[04:05] <intelikey> am3r1ca if it is blank  i'd do this.      sudo cfdisk /dev/sda          delete anything not wanted.  make new partition set it to 06 or what ever you like   and write to disk & exit.  sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda#   where # is the new number   7 or other.   then mount it.
[04:05] <percent_20> how do yo turn bluetooth off?
[04:05] <Falstius> TheWrench: it is very possible, just not efficient :)
[04:05] <Rower> _jason: 5.10 version
[04:05] <_jason> Rower: that's probably why.  Did 'sudo aptitude install lynx' not work?
[04:05] <balu1> nickrud: yes but i want to learn to distinguish between the two...so in a hex value.. how do i know which corresponds to the PCI?
[04:05] <FunnyLookinHat> ve, haha, ok
[04:05] <nickrud> balu1, it was the same in both configs you showed me
[04:05] <Rower> _jason: didnt work
[04:05] <TheWrench> Falstius, why is itnot efficient?
[04:05] <balu1> nickrud: i set that pci manually :X
[04:05] <lgc> I wish someone could help me with this: my laptop is behaving rather windows-like: When I close the session and restart, I end up with the same, pesky messed up session from a month ago. How can I get rid of that? How about you, _jason? Could you help me?
[04:05] <OmegaAlpha> ve, ok first i ran mount and saw it was sda1 but it was still reading so i waited and disconnected it and now its labeled as sdb1?
[04:05] <_jason> Rower: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and enable the online repos.  Then do 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:05] <FunnyLookinHat> _jason, perhaps have Rower use Synaptic?
[04:06] <_jason> Rower: do you have X?
[04:06] <Rower> _jason: no
[04:06] <FunnyLookinHat> ew gros.
[04:06] <nickrud> balu1, all I cared about pci values was that PCI:1: meant it was agp, everything else was bus
[04:06] <wicked_> hi! when i updates my sources list i got some of those failed, i did it in console and saw those ing thing... what r those?
[04:06] <Falstius> TheWrench: applications in Linux don't eat up harddrive in the same way as windows so devoting a large amount of space to them is impratical (unless you're running special CAD software or some such)
[04:06] <am3r1ca> intelikey ok !! thanks ill give it a go
[04:06] <balu1> nickrud: but its not an AGP card??
[04:06] <Rower> _jason: the final thing is that i want it to run as a server machine for cgi irc =) and its my first time trying to install linux.. :D
[04:06] <balu1> nickrud: im using a PCI card.
[04:06] <_jason> Rower: k, just uncomment the lines that start with ``deb'' in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:06] <intelikey> am3r1ca it kinda sounds like you made a partition and file system that didn't match and windows read it wrong and compounded the problem.
[04:07] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell wicked_ about easysource
[04:07] <crxyem> can parted or qtparted resize ntfs partitions ?/
[04:07] <_jason> Rower: are you comfortable editing files in the terminal?
[04:07] <am3r1ca> intelikey ok
[04:07] <FunnyLookinHat> wicked_, that should help you out, let me know
[04:07] <wicked_> funny thats where i went.. then i activated the gpg
[04:07] <Rower> _jason: yeah..
[04:07] <Falstius> crxyem: you should check the website.
[04:07] <nickrud> balu1, sudo lspci -v has the reference numbers (don't wanna say canonical)
[04:07] <_jason> Rower: k, just making sure :)
[04:07] <OmegaAlpha> brb
[04:07] <Rower> _jason: done it 2 times before =P
[04:07] <crxyem> good idea
[04:07] <TheWrench> Flastius: so you are not saying the formats are inefficient, just the sizes of the partitions?
[04:08] <Rower> _jason: running linux on this machine to.. but the problem is that im running a dualcore cpu..
[04:08] <intelikey> where is crimsun ?
[04:08] <Rower> and also, cant get the audio drivers correct..
[04:08] <lgc> nalioth, cafuego _jason could anyone of you help me with tonight's beef?
[04:08] <nalioth> lgc: what cut would that be?
[04:08] <Falstius> TheWrench: yep.  Although fat32 is pretty lame ... ext3 with ext3 drivers for windows or NTFS support in Linux is nicer ... but those both take some special loving.  So go with fat32 your first time.
[04:08] <nightvision> sup
[04:08] <crimsun> intelikey: he's fighting ssh tunneling atm
[04:08] <_jason> lgc: you want it to remember your last session or no?
[04:09] <DarkMageZ> Toma-: :P these patches are great fun
[04:09] <wicked_> what does ign stand for.. ex: Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/free Sources
[04:09] <balu1> nickrud: u misunderstand me, i just want to know how to read the value, so like if i did lspci, i get a hex value of 0000:01:00.0, i f i wanted to enter a PCI: x:x:x  howd i type it?
[04:09] <nalioth> wicked_: ignore, cuz it already has that file
[04:09] <intelikey> crimsun would you beep me when you have a minute?
[04:09] <Toma-> DarkMageZ: oh rly
[04:09] <crimsun> intelikey: sure
[04:09] <lgc> _jason, nalioth: here it is again: my laptop is behaving rather windows-like: When I close the session and restart, I end up with the same, pesky messed up session from a month ago. How can I get rid of that?
[04:09] <carny> hello
[04:09] <wicked_> ho ok so that might be the reason why it failed i guess
[04:09] <nalioth> lgc: uncheck the box for 'remember this session'
[04:09] <DarkMageZ> Toma-: ya, i sucessfully stuffed it up :)
[04:10] <Toma-> oh no :(
[04:10] <carny> is there a quick way to install my ati rage mobility m1 and enable opengl support with apt-get???
[04:10] <carny> is there a quick way to install my ati rage mobility m1 and enable opengl support with apt-get???
[04:10] <carny> is there a quick way to install my ati rage mobility m1 and enable opengl support with apt-get???
[04:10] <Rower> _jason: hmmza.. couldt edit the file :D
[04:10] <am3r1ca> intelikey, the partition is blank, but not the disk, this isnt going to mess up the other partitions right ??
[04:10] <_jason> carny: that only gets you ignored
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> carny: First, to be more likely to get help don't flood.
[04:10] <_jason> Rower: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <Toma-> carny: repeating gets you onto my ignore list
[04:10] <Rower> aah nano was the command :D
[04:10] <carny> yeh well i get ignored either way
[04:10] <carny> please
[04:10] <ph1qt10n> !sound
[04:10] <balu1> not sure if im explaining myself well x
[04:10] <ubotu> from memory, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell carny about attitude
[04:10] <balu1> :x
[04:10] <carny> ive asked about 10 times and ive been ignored every time
[04:10] <lgc> nalioth, that option is on the logout window, if I am correct. The problem is that I end up with the same "$#%# old session!
[04:10] <nickrud> balu1, :)
[04:11] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: why are you flooding this channel?
[04:11] <_jason> !ati
[04:11] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:11] <nickrud> balu1, I
[04:11] <intelikey> carny there is a quick to get banned from the channel,  just do that repete thing again   :)
[04:11] <carny> thankyou :D
[04:11] <balu1> nickrud  did ya get what i was saying? ;x
[04:11] <ph1qt10n> am i flooding it?
[04:11] <lewix> FunnyLookinHat, how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default
[04:11] <nickrud> balu1, yeah, and I am not a PCI calculator, I guess :)
[04:11] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: /msg ubotu msg the bot
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> carny: That probably means nobody who knows is here at the time that you ask.
[04:11] <TheWrench> Falstius: ok, now for the dumb questions.  why do you say 10g for / and 15g for /home?  what does this mean? alternatively, where should I go to find out?
[04:11] <_jason> lgc: system > preferences > sessions, was what nalioth was referring to I believe
[04:11] <balu1> nickrud: now im really confused, i thot it was just a difference in formats..?
[04:12] <rishi> hey buys
[04:12] <rishi> guys*
[04:12] <rishi> i have a question...
[04:12] <Eleaf> Can anybody else give me some dns servers?
[04:12] <nickrud> balu1, exactly, and I don't even get close enough to that kind of stuff to be able to roll it off the top of my head.
[04:12] <am3r1ca> intelikey, the partition is blank, but not the disk, this isnt going to mess up the other partitions right ??
[04:12] <rishi> is dapper flight 5 pretty much usable
[04:12] <rishi> ?
[04:12] <Toma-> rishi: yep
[04:12] <shiv> am I just imagining things or the audio in kinux appears actually better than windows?
[04:12] <balu1> nickrud: dang.. k didnt kno it was that complicated
[04:12] <RemyLaptop> Hey guys, I managed to remove the clock from the system tray (top right hand corner
[04:12] <Falstius> TheWrench: / will be where all of your system configuration and program files go.  And where your logs and such are.  /home is where your personal configuration and files will be.
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> rishi: You can get details in #ubuntu+1 too.
[04:12] <shiv> am I just imagining things or the audio in linux appears actually better than windows?
[04:13] <lewix> FunnyLookinHat, how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default
[04:13] <RemyLaptop> how do I get it back ?
[04:13] <mytruehero> I'm afraid I'm stumped here... I'm trying to curl a URL that includes an ampersand, but the result of "curl http://www.foo.com/bar.php?a=1&b=2" is just "http://www.foo.com/bar.php?a=1" that is, it only grabs everything before the first ampersand
[04:13] <intelikey> am3r1ca if you leave them alone it wont do a thing to them
[04:13] <Rower> apt-get update
[04:13] <rishi> so if i download and install dapper flight 5...once it becomes a release, will it update it automatically, or will i have to reinstall?
[04:13] <am3r1ca> intelikey ok thanks
[04:13] <_jason> RemyLaptop: right click on the panel > add to panel > clock
[04:13] <nickrud> balu1, I don't even know if it's complicated, I just know enough to recognize different dialects
[04:13] <RemyLaptop> I can't get it to appear in the right most panel though....
[04:13] <Falstius> Generally, programs and logs won't get about 5GB, but 10 leaves plenty of room for temp files and a few big games if you lean that way.
[04:13] <RemyLaptop> only on the middle panel
[04:13] <lgc> _jason, I don't see any pertinent option (except perhaps "automatically save session changes", which is not selected)
[04:13] <intelikey> am3r1ca uf you tell cfdisk to delete them it will....  so use good sense.
[04:13] <balu1> nickrud: i c, well i just thot something was wrong when u said that PCI : 1 = agp, but im running a pci card
[04:13] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, after you get it back, right-click on it & select Move
[04:13] <Eleaf> Anybody know of any dns servers I can use?
[04:14] <freenodes> :(:::
[04:14] <RemyLaptop> Still can't move it to the right...
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> RemyLaptop: Drag and drop?
[04:14] <RemyLaptop> it will only move inside the middle top panel
[04:14] <freenodes> <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:14] <Madpilot> Eleaf, your own ISP should supply those?
[04:14] <freenodes> <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:14] <nalioth> lgc: i'm not sure where in your homedir it saves session info
[04:14] <Eleaf> yes
[04:14] <_jason> lgc: you can delete ~/.gnome2/session, I believe it's where it gets stored
[04:14] <RemyLaptop> Moving it doesn't work either...
[04:14] <freenodes> that was for eleaf
[04:14] <Eleaf> Madpilot, but I need some more, I don't even want to explain my situation, sorry
[04:14] <intelikey> am3r1ca don't forget to write to disk before you exit.
[04:14] <Eleaf> alright
[04:14] <Eleaf> freenodes, those work?
[04:14] <lewix>  how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default
[04:14] <Madpilot> Eleaf, no idea, sorry
[04:14] <lgc> _jason, nalioth, thanks. Let me check that out...
[04:14] <freenodes> yep theyre some big provider
[04:15] <Eleaf> Madpilot, yea,  it's such a big thing, it would take forever to explain
[04:15] <Eleaf> thanks freenodes !
[04:15] <Eleaf> I'll try them now
[04:15] <rishi> wait, so if i d/l dapper flight 5, will it update to release?
[04:15] <lewix>  how can I change my streaming video player. I want to use mplayer but xine is set by default or how can i uninstall xine
[04:15] <nickrud> balu1, like I said, I can recognize dialects, but context matters: ok , it's 2. sorry. Not the first time I've gotten details wrong, won't be the last. Heh.
[04:15] <nalioth> rishi: yes it will
[04:15] <broberts> mytruehero: Did you try to backslash it?  http://foo.com/bar.php\?a=1\?b=2
[04:15] <_jason> lewix: in firefox you mean?
[04:15] <rishi> sweet...one more question...does dapper 5 have all the xgl goodness?
[04:16] <lewix> jason yes
[04:16] <nalioth> rishi: it does not. you can add it, tho
[04:16] <am3r1ca> intelikey i think i found whats wrong, in the cfdisk comand the fat 32 is sda6, and in fstab its sda7
[04:16] <rishi> ah...okay, i think i saw that tutorial on digg
[04:16] <lewix> _jason, that's exactly what i mean
[04:16] <am3r1ca> sda 7 in cfdisk is swap
[04:16] <am3r1ca> thats why it didnt find anything
[04:16] <lgc> _jason, Bingo! It actually was the one from a month ago. Thanks!
[04:16] <am3r1ca> :)
[04:16] <intelikey> am3r1ca that'll do it.
[04:16] <balu1> nickrud: the only reason i was concerned is, if i defined my card as something it isnt, it could cause probs
[04:17] <_jason> lewix: hrmm, I don't know what package provides the xine plug-in.  You've installed mplayer and mozilla-mplayer already?
[04:17] <am3r1ca> so now i just have to edit fstab corresponding with the info in the cfdisk ??
[04:17] <mytruehero> broberts: that works. thanks :)
[04:17] <TheWrench> ok, so: 25GB (NTFS) for windows, 40GB (NTFS) for windows application, 10GB (ext3) for /, 15GB (ext3) for /home, 110GB (fat32) for media.
[04:17] <balu1> nickrud: well thnks for ur help anyway man..that was alot of time.
[04:17] <rishi> have you guys played with the xgl xororaa or whatever
[04:17] <rishi> good lord
[04:17] <rishi> its sweet
[04:17] <balu1> appreciate it*
[04:18] <TheWrench> now, how do I go about creating an ext3 partition?
[04:18] <intelikey> am3r1ca that is not what was giving the error can not open sda7  message in fdisk -l   it should NOT report on non-existant partitions.  so  there is a test you can use.
[04:18] <rishi> but nothing is more nub friendly than ubuntu...and i am one of those.
[04:18] <Falstius> TheWrench, don't forget 1 GB for swap space (that is what Linux uses when it runs out of RAM).
[04:18] <nalioth> rishi: once you go to dapper, discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[04:18] <rishi> okay...thanks nalioth...i really appreciate the help.
[04:18] <lewix> yes I installed mozilla-mplayer..I think i installed mplayer a long time ago , I;m not sure though . How can I check it out
[04:19] <intelikey> TheWrench with the ubuntu installer maybe ?
[04:19] <Falstius> TheWrench: do you have a blank disk now?  It is easier to install windows first and Linux second.  You can create empty partitions in the windows install and then format them during the Linux install.
[04:19] <ve> OmegaAlpha, fall out?
[04:19] <mordof> how do i grab all the dependancies for a package?
[04:19] <cleit0n> hi, how i install one modem intel 537 in kubuntu?
[04:19] <TheWrench> ok.  Anything else like that that I might need to know (the swap space)?
[04:19] <_jason> lewix: try running 'mplayer' in a terminal would be one way.  Put ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:19] <intelikey> TheWrench sudo cfdisk if you are in linux and this is another drive.
[04:19] <nickrud> balu1, I was multitasking, but np. You have the right xorg, get a decent log showing 1024x768
[04:19] <TheWrench> the drive crashed, i am writing zeros to it now
[04:19] <nalioth> mordof: apt-get does it for you
[04:20] <mordof> nalioth, i wan't to compile the package from source
[04:20] <OmegaAlpha> ve, no i had a kernel upgrade and didnt know that i had to restart the computer for it to finish i guess upgrading.. but i didnt see the upgrade in the upgrade menu.. so i dont think whatever it did.. didnt work haha
[04:20] <_jason> lewix: also, can you prefix your messages with '_jason' please so that I don't miss them
[04:20] <mordof> there is a newer version than the repos have
[04:20] <TheWrench> I am on a different (windows) computer now
[04:20] <ITSa341> Anyone here familiar with setting up networking in Parallels when using a wireless card in the host OS (Ubuntu 5.10)?
[04:20] <pvd2006> I noticed in the Ubuntu documentation to install Limewire it had this link, but the link is now broken does anyone know where to get limewire for Ubuntu?
[04:21] <percent_20> what is the config file for aptget?
[04:21] <lewix> _jason, thanks again. hmm so I just time ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:21] <ITSa341> pvd2006  Limewire.com
[04:21] <intelikey> TheWrench i don't use swap.  if you want to use swap partition 2x ram is plenty  on all newer systems.   1x ram for those with 1g+ ram
[04:21] <Falstius> TheWrench, you should probably put the partitions in the right order, something like C:, /, swap, extended(D:, /home, media)
[04:21] <ITSa341> pvd2006   the stock Limewire release works just fine in Ubuntu 5.10  I run it myself
[04:21] <pvd2006> Ill check it
[04:21] <_jason> lewix: just run the command and copy and paste to that site, then give me a link
[04:21] <OmegaAlpha> ve, i unmounted and did fsck it now says /Unfinished DLs Contains a free cluster (275286). Assuming EOF. Reserved field in VFAT long filename slot is not 0 (but 0xa7). 1: Fix. 2. leave it
[04:21] <pvd2006> Oh ok
[04:22] <pvd2006> no spyware/adware?
[04:22] <ITSa341> Nope
[04:22] <intelikey> but of course you could have 2g ram and 100g swap if you want it.
[04:22] <pvd2006> ok cool
[04:22] <Falstius> intelikey: why don't you use swap?  you've never had a runaway proccess eat all your memory and cause a kernel panic?
[04:22] <pvd2006> Thanks
[04:22] <nalioth> pvd2006: use frostwire if you don't want any chance of spyware adware
[04:22] <percent_20> how can i enable restricted repos?
[04:22] <ITSa341> pvd2006  It worked flawlessly for me
[04:22] <intelikey> Falstius oom killer takes care of that.
[04:23] <percent_20> !nonfree
[04:23] <Myrth> hi, apt-get upgrade says that libapr0 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-common apache2-utils libpq4 can't be authenticated - is it a problem?
[04:23] <ubotu> percent_20: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:23] <ITSa341> pvd2006 Frostwire is almost identical and it's in the repositories
[04:23] <percent_20> !non-free
[04:23] <ubotu> percent_20: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:23] <TheWrench> I have 500MB ram, so 1GB swap sounds good to me.
[04:23] <pvd2006> Ohhh ok.
[04:23] <pvd2006> That will work
[04:23] <lgc> _jason, do you know how
[04:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> percent_20: system -> administration -> synaptic -> settings -> repos -> settings
[04:23] <intelikey> Falstius and if it didn't it wouldn't matter how much swap you had it would still fill it all up and panic anyway.
[04:23] <jakedahn> Hey, can someone upload to pastebin, what the /etc/apt/sources.list looks like for Dapper?
[04:23] <rohan> RemyLaptop: you still struggling with the clock???
[04:23] <_jason> lgc: sorry, how what?
[04:23] <ITSa341> Anyone here familiar with setting up networking in Parallels when using a wireless card in the host OS (Ubuntu 5.10)?
[04:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> percent_20: check the box 'show disabled repos'
[04:23] <pvd2006> is it under mutliverse?
[04:24] <Falstius> intelikey: takes longer :)
[04:24] <lgc> _jason, sorry. Do you know how can I add elements to the Gnome menus?
[04:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> percent_20: Then go back to the 'repos' window and enable them all.
[04:24] <ve> OmegaAlpha, fix?  you must decide
[04:24] <ITSa341> pvd2006  I'm not sure which repo and not running my Ubuntu machine right now
[04:24] <_jason> lgc: system tools > applications menu editor
[04:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell percent_20 about repos
[04:24] <ve> OmegaAlpha, I don't know the history of the drive, or the sensitivity of the data
[04:24] <TheWrench> Falstius: you are saying I must create the partitions is a specific order?
[04:24] <percent_20> PuMpErNiCkLe:swee thank you
[04:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> percent_20: np :)
[04:24] <Rower> When im running lynx and i download a file, where do they go :D
[04:25] <OmegaAlpha> ve can you message me
[04:25] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10171
[04:25] <Falstius> TheWrench: no, but there are limitations.  If you put / too far back on the disk grub won't work (atleast older versions wouldn't, I haven't tried with the latest and greatest).
[04:25] <percent_20> nalioth: thank you coouldn't remember multivers or universe ty
[04:25] <carny> !ati
[04:25] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:25] <Falstius> but Windows wants to install on the first partition, so it helps to make linux the second.
[04:25] <_jason> lewix: get rid of kaffeine-mozilla package
[04:25] <carny> !ati rage pro
[04:26] <ubotu> carny: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:26] <crxyem> well, my / is pretty much the last partition and no problems here
[04:26] <lewix> it was told to install it in the wiki
[04:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell carny about ati
[04:26] <Falstius> crxyem: on a 200 GB disk?
[04:26] <_jason> lewix: link?
[04:26] <lewix> _jason, I don't know how to get rid of it
[04:26] <intelikey> Falstius yeah.... and i have one box with no usb and every linux i have installed on it yet, boots to a point where it sets up usb and "runs away" there,  if it has to fill swap it takes a long time for it to oomK and continue the boot,  without swap about 5 minutes.   so  there are pros & cons  to everything.
[04:26] <crxyem> um, oops a 40GB
[04:26] <lewix> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-6766cd689854da82b6ce8c6563b42f617e426398
[04:26] <balu1> nickrud: what did u say bout refresh rates? did they ahve to be a minimu of a #hz?
[04:26] <ve> OmegaAlpha, I msg'd..you there?
[04:27] <_jason> lewix: use synaptic or just do: sudo aptitude remove kaffeine-mozilla
[04:27] <OmegaAlpha> yeah i didnt get it
[04:27] <am3r1ca> intelikey it mounted, thanks alot
[04:27] <intelikey> am3r1ca np    welcome
[04:27] <lewix> _jason, thanks. It's done
[04:27] <_jason> lewix: restart firefox and it should be using mplayer
[04:28] <lgc> _jason, I can't find exactly that. What seems more like it is "system > preferences > menus and toobars" (well, more or less. I'm translating from Spanish).
[04:28] <lewix> what happened to xine
[04:28] <ve> OmegaAlpha, odd...I'm using gaim...dunno what the prob could be
[04:28] <pvd2006> :-\ I dont see frostwire on the list
[04:28] <lewix> _jason, what happened to xine ?
[04:28] <intelikey> so anyone know an easy way to auto launch an app when twm starts ?
[04:28] <pvd2006> im searching through, "ALL"
[04:28] <OmegaAlpha> ve, i sent you a message did you get it?
[04:28] <nalioth> intelikey: .twcrc ?
[04:28] <_jason> lewix: you still have xine if you had it before, just not the kaffeine plugin for firefox
[04:29] <nickrud> balu1, if you want to check that idea of mine, drop the horizsync 10%, & the vertfresh 20%.
[04:29] <nalioth> intelikey: er, .twmrc
[04:29] <ve> OmegaAlpha, nope...afraid not
[04:29] <_jason> lgc: it should be in applications menu > system tools, the command is 'smeg' if you want to run it form a terminal
[04:29] <intelikey> nalioth just make one ?    with the command i want to run in it ?
[04:29] <lewix> _jason,  I just restarted mozilla but xine is still set as the default player
[04:29] <OmegaAlpha> ve, no i think my xchat is messed up
[04:29] <balu1> nickrud: k ill take a look
[04:29] <crimsun> intelikey: ping
[04:29] <nickrud> balu1, most hypotheses never see the light of day
[04:29] <_jason> lewix: hrmm, pastebin the same ls command from before again
[04:29] <ve> OmegaAlpha, use AIM/MSN/Yahoo...could use one of those
[04:29] <Falstius> crxyem: I was looking for the GRUB boot partition limit but can't find it .. I think its like 80GB but that's just a guess.
[04:29] <nalioth> intelikey: there probably is no such thing as a .twmrc, i just said it to make you think
[04:29] <intelikey> crimsun you good with alsa problems ?
[04:30] <crimsun> intelikey: as long as hardware isn't the culprit
[04:30] <_jason> lewix: wait, when you say mozilla, do you actually mean mozilla or firefox?
[04:30] <balu1> nickrud: absolutley no reason for this to not work i muts be doing something or the other wrong
[04:30] <balu1> nickrud: i had to define most of the xorg myself to set voodoo as primary vid card over my integrated vid card
[04:30] <Falstius> intelikey: is oomK a standard part of the kernel or does it need to be installed and configured?
[04:30] <ITSa341> balu1   got your email and will send you info in the morning
[04:30] <balu1> itsaa341: im glad
[04:31] <balu1> itsa341: im glad ;)
[04:31] <intelikey> crimsun i've had it working under ubuntu before but this time i cant seem to get it to work....  alsamixer E: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:31] <intelikey> Falstius default afik
[04:31] <balu1> nickrud: holy shit i dno wha ti did but its working at 1024 res :x
[04:31] <ve> OmegaAlpha, I could try trillian's irc on my windows laptop...but, I dunno I'm feeling lazy :P
[04:31] <lewix> _jason, firefox
[04:31] <pvd2006> I am just going to download limewire. they only have it as RPM, hmmm.
[04:31] <lewix> sorry
[04:31] <pvd2006> oh well, good time to learn that.
[04:31] <OmegaAlpha> ve, anyways i got another message asking if i want to fix numbering (truncating long name to a short name, delete LFN or ignore
[04:31] <lewix> _jason, I forgot the site to paste stuff
[04:31] <crimsun> intelikey: cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:31] <balu1> nickrud: i reconfigured xserver.. wtf this is cooky.. so how can i see if direct rendering works now?
[04:31] <nickrud> balu1, you got the right values into xorg.conf. save that one as your acell
[04:31] <jasonkang86> umm...
[04:31] <_jason> lewix: it's in /topic but it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:31] <nickrud> *accel
[04:31] <ITSa341> pvd2006  get the "other" version
[04:32] <OmegaAlpha> lol i dont know how to use yahoo messenger or msn to message someone on irc
[04:32] <jquixote> anyone running an ati mobility x300 ?
[04:32] <jasonkang86> can we use Linux Ubuntu to learn how to hack?
[04:32] <balu1> nickrud: cant i just leave this as my permanent xorg? i dont mind it
[04:32] <nickrud> balu1, glxconfig | grep direct
[04:32] <Rower> When im running lynx and i download a file, where do they go :D
[04:32] <lewix> _jason, isn't mozilla the same as firefox ?
[04:32] <OmegaAlpha> i know how to sign on irc with gaim but im already signed here with xchat
[04:32] <intelikey> crimsun you want that pastebined or is there a specific line you want ?
[04:32] <ve> OmegaAlpha, no worries....
[04:32] <Falstius> intelikey: okay ... I was doing some reading up.  Now that I know what it is, I've seen this in action before when it couldn't find any proccesses to kill to free memory and then still kernel panicked (that was some really badly configured machine)
[04:32] <crimsun> intelikey: pastebinned, please
[04:32] <_jason> lewix: there's also a mozilla web browser
[04:32] <balu1> nickrud: glxconfig: command not found? err..
[04:32] <ve> OmegaAlpha, sounds like good stuff to fix....
[04:32] <Xenguy> nickrud: Hi again - I think I got that OOo problem mostly licked, thanks to some kind soul on the OOo channel...
[04:32] <pvd2006> ah alright found it
[04:33] <jasonkang86> can we learn how to hack?
[04:33] <jquixote> balu1: you need fglrx installed
[04:33] <lewix> _jason, Im talking about firefox web browser
[04:33] <ollie> hi all
[04:33] <nickrud> balu1, glxinfo, I'm busy (listening to chatter on the phone)
[04:33] <intelikey> crimsun actually its only 2 lines "0 [AD1816A        ] : AD1816A - ADI SoundPort AD1816A                ADI SoundPort AD1816A, SS at 0x100, irq 5, dma 1&0"
[04:33] <_jason> lewix: k
[04:33] <ve> OmegaAlpha, obviously it recognizes the file system.....good sign
[04:33] <percent_20> is there going to be an pudate for badger to gnome 2.14 when it comes out?
[04:33] <Xenguy> nickrud: it was much simpler solution than I expected :-)
[04:33] <balu1> nickrud: glxinfo WOOOOOOOOOOOO directrendering on! we have 3d accel! LIFTOFF
[04:33] <iGotNoTime> Does anyone here use Meebo.com?
[04:33] <nickrud> balu1, ok!
[04:33] <jquixote> what is glxconfig? I thought it was aticonfig
[04:33] <Xenguy> nickrud: anyway styles are our friend I think
[04:33] <iGotNoTime> I am not advertising, my question goes further into depth
[04:33] <balu1> nickrud: THANK YOU man. serously.
[04:33] <jon_>
[04:33] <nickrud> Xenguy, they usually are, we are blind (and lazy, in this case)
[04:33] <balu1> nickrud: can i add a snippet to your wikki??
[04:33] <crimsun> intelikey: ok. Does ``alsamixer -c0'' work?
[04:33] <_jason> jon_: /join #ubuntu-zh
[04:34] <jasonkang86> jon_: here all european
[04:34] <Xenguy> nickrud: I was overcomplicating things in this case
[04:34] <nickrud> balu1, please. that was the first one I did, sort of as a test. It needs work.
[04:34] <jasonkang86> me chinese
[04:34] <ve> OmegaAlpha, I think I'm having issues of my own...I'll brb
[04:34] <jasonkang86> XD
[04:34] <OmegaAlpha> ve, yeah but looks like i got alot of errors
[04:34] <intelikey> crimsun alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for hw:0: No such file or directory
[04:34] <ve> gonna reboot
[04:34] <OmegaAlpha> ve, im still answering alot of questions fixing stuff
[04:34] <crimsun> intelikey: lsmod output, please
[04:34] <balu1> nickrud: lovely :) i get to contribute back to the community!
[04:34] <OmegaAlpha> ve, ok
[04:34] <iGotNoTime> does anyone have a suggestion for displaying a live webpage as my desktop background?
[04:35] <pvd2006> Itsa341: ok I found the other Limewire download how do I install it again? I am pretty new to linux forgot which command to use
[04:35] <intelikey> !paste
[04:35] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[04:35] <Xenguy> iGotNoTime: change your nick to MultimediaMan :-)
[04:35] <ITSa341> pvd2006  this is the version I use (click the "other OS2 solaris, linux)
[04:35] <Blippe> iGotNoTime, doesn't gdesklet have that feature?
[04:35] <iGotNoTime> Xenguy ??
[04:35] <lgc> _jason, the closest I get is "applications > system tools > configuration editor", but it lists a myriad of options, not just (and not) the few ones I have on the menu. On the other hand, "smeg" doesn't exist on my system (I'm on good old Hoary).
[04:35] <pvd2006> yes
[04:35] <lewix> _jason, please don't forget me lol
[04:35] <pvd2006> that is the one I downloaded
[04:35] <iGotNoTime> Blippe I don't know, does it?
[04:35] <ITSa341> go into the folder and if memory serves me right run runlime.sh
[04:36] <iGotNoTime> Blippe I will search
[04:36] <Xenguy> iGotNoTime: humour'; there must be a way tho
[04:36] <Blippe> i think so...
[04:36] <_jason> lewix: did you pastebin that ls command?
[04:36] <ITSa341> pvd2006 go into the folder and if memory serves me right run runlime.sh
[04:36] <crxyem> so anyone familiar with acpi and resulting issues with samba
[04:36] <iGotNoTime> Xenguy sorry just a littel tired :)
[04:36] <balu1> wow fixing stuff in linux is way more frustrating + gratifying than windows ;p
[04:36] <_jason> lgc: install smeg, I think it is in hoary repos.  Let me know if you can't find it
[04:36] <TheWrench> so, in order:
[04:36] <intelikey> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10173
[04:36] <Xenguy> iGotNoTime: ahh, me too actually :-)
[04:36] <TheWrench> C:      25GB  (NTFS) for windows
[04:36] <ITSa341> pvd2006 there should be a readme or a txt file with instructions
[04:36] <intelikey> crimsun that's just the snd portion.
[04:36] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10174
[04:36] <Falstius> TheWrench, don't paste them to their own lines ...
[04:36] <TheWrench> ok
[04:37] <TheWrench> sorry
[04:37] <crimsun> intelikey: k, entire lsmod output, please
[04:37] <_jason> lewix: you sure you closed all instances of firefox?
[04:37] <Alex2> I am new to Ubuntu and have tried the LiveCD on an emachine with wireless, everything worked but the wireless, any hints...I am leary of trying the full install if the woreless will not work.
[04:38] <lewix> sure
[04:38] <lgc> _jason, "smeg" seems not to be on the repositories.
[04:38] <cleit0n> ae uma duvida os procedimentos pra instalar um modem intel num ubuntu seria o mesmo num debian? ou muda?
[04:38] <OmegaAlpha> what does it mean when fsck asks you if you want to drop a directory?
[04:38] <lewix> _jason, I'm sure
[04:38] <rishi> guys, where do i go to download dapper
[04:39] <_jason> lewix: 'killall firefox-bin' just to be certain
[04:39] <intelikey> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10175
[04:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rishi about upgrade
[04:39] <intelikey> don't know what differance that makes but there ya are.
[04:39] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, I changed the theme on my system, and now the icon for the trash can has dissapeared... any ideaS?
[04:39] <Falstius> Portuguese?
[04:39] <_jason> !pt
[04:39] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues.  C: (25GB NTFS) for windows, / (10GB ext3) for Ubuntu, D: (40GB NTFS) for windows wares,/home (15GB ext3),media (110GB fat32).
[04:40] <nalioth> rishi: look at your private messages
[04:40] <lewix> _jason, the same result..it doesnt work
[04:40] <crxyem> hello any help with acpi issues ?
[04:40] <rishi> woah.
[04:40] <lgc> _jason, yes.
[04:40] <Falstius> TheWrench: that should work happily.  How much RAM do you have?
[04:40] <_jason> lewix: it still loads xine?
[04:41] <lewix> _jason, yep
[04:41] <bassinboy> ok, my dns report shows I have Lame nameservers, what file do I edit to delete those
[04:41] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, ve, here
[04:41] <TheWrench> Falstius:and to do this, I install windows first, leaving blank partitions, then install ubuntu?
[04:41] <lewix> _jason, can't I just uninstall xine ?
[04:41] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, welcome back
[04:41] <TheWrench> Falstius:500megs
[04:41] <Guest63120> where is the download directory of lynx
[04:41] <TylerWalts> Hi, I was trying to follow the Ubuntu starter guide to install Java Firefox plugin:  (sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5) but then it gives an error:  "E: Package sun-j2re1.5 has no installation candidate
[04:41] <TylerWalts> " - am I missing a repository or something?
[04:41] <Falstius> TheWrench: that is the easiest way.  You should probably make a 1GB partition for "swap" too.
[04:41] <MrRio> opening beagle search, in the about window just says 'Desktop Search 0.0'
[04:41] <bluefoxicy> ubotu: anjuta
[04:41] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bluefoxicy
[04:41] <_jason> lewix: wel you removed the plugin, do this and pastebin and results: 'locate kaffeineplugin.so'
[04:41] <Falstius> It can go anywhere.
[04:41] <crimsun> intelikey: the 'sound' (OSS/Free) module is loaded. Please unload it and all the ALSA modules, then reload the ALSA ad1816a driver (modprobe -r sound snd-ad1816a && modprobe snd-ad1816a)
[04:42] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, I'm using trillian now...sent you a msg...I take it you didn't receive it still?
[04:42] <nalioth> Guest63120: the directory that you start it from
[04:42] <_jason> in Hoary, wasn't smeg available in the repos?  which one?
[04:42] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, nope sorry
[04:42] <RemyLaptop> !smeg
[04:42] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[04:42] <Blippe> TheWrench,  C: (24GB NTFS) for windows, e: (1gig ntfs) for virtual memory, (swap) (1gig) / (10GB ext3) for Ubuntu, D: (40GB NTFS) for windows wares,/home (15GB ext3),media (110GB fat32)
[04:42] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, what is the context of the word 'drop' when using fsck?
[04:42] <intelikey> crimsun done,   same error.
[04:42] <_jason> lgc: see ubotu's message above I guess.  But I could have sworn it was in the repos :)
[04:43] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, im getting alot of messages asking if i want to drop directories and files
[04:43] <crimsun> intelikey: and /proc/asound/cards still reports the ad1816a as valid?
[04:43] <Blippe> TheWrench, why 40 gig warez?
[04:43] <lewix> _jason,  I installed the mozilla-kaffein package at the same time I installed mozzilla-firefox. Xine was already installed
[04:43] <nalioth> _jason: it was not available, iirc
[04:43] <Falstius> Blippe: probably DVD images of games ...
[04:43] <lewix> _jason, then I installed w32codecs
[04:43] <Blippe> Falstius, why not put them in a 150gig media?
[04:43] <intelikey> crimsun just a sec... re trying and got this.   devfs_remove: sound/audio not found, cannot remove
[04:44] <_jason> lewix: ok check 'about:plugins' in the firefox url bar and see if it is using mplayer or not
[04:44] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, not good, I believe that deletes
[04:44] <TheWrench> Blippe, Flastius: i have lots of large windows applications.  Actually, no games.
[04:44] <intelikey> crimsun and    "pnp: Unable to assign resources to device 01:01.01.     ad1816a: MPU401 PnP configure failure "
[04:44] <Falstius> Blippe, you can't mount fat32 as folders in NTFS, you can with NTFS/NTFS?  I dunno.
[04:44] <lgc> _jason, I'm on it.
[04:44] <intelikey> now check the card crimsun ?
[04:44] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, i got a message saying one of my music files has a bad file name and wants to know if i want to drop the file, or rename it, auto rename it, or keep it... these are the kind of messages im getting.. alot of them
[04:45] <jquixote> anyone notice how ubuntu and digg are such good friends?
[04:45] <Xenguy> I can dig it :-)
[04:45] <crimsun> intelikey: ah. Please forcibly unload ALSA: invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload
[04:45] <Blippe> Falstius, i thought you could with fat, shows what i know!
[04:45] <jakedahn> ok, who here is running dapper?
[04:45] <intelikey> crimsun ok
[04:45] <jakedahn> anyone?
[04:45] <laggerzero> Hello, I'm running into some troubles with dapper (yeah I know it's alpha)
[04:45] <laggerzero> me
[04:45] <_jason> jakedahn: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[04:45] <TheWrench> Blippe: i wanted the media partition to contain files that i would use from both operating systems
[04:45] <laggerzero> and the problem is not XGL!
[04:45] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, might want to google the text of the error.....I don't have experience with that one
[04:45] <Blippe> jakedahn,  try #ubuntu+1
[04:45] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, like right now.. all my files names have changed.. and i cant see them how i used to.. like there are more. and the names are of ascii characters.. really mumbo jumbo... and the same with the sub directories
[04:45] <fatehaze> jakedahn, #ubuntu+1
[04:45] <SlicerDicer> can somebody help me figure out why when I try to sudo it says "sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname ()"
[04:45] <jakedahn> kk
[04:46] <laggerzero> i'm getting some tcltk errors
[04:46] <_jason> SlicerDicer: put the contents of /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:46] <jquixote> my ubuntu is so slow
[04:46] <intelikey> crimsun k that seems to have worked. now ?
[04:46] <OmegaAlpha> does ubuntu have a remoter terminal like program?
[04:46] <Xenguy> jquixote: define slow; what hardware?
[04:46] <laggerzero> __main__.TclError: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"
[04:46] <SlicerDicer> _jason: I can tell you whats there hehe :)
[04:46] <laggerzero> anyone know what that means?
[04:46] <OmegaAlpha> i can let you see it lol its messy
[04:46] <_jason> SlicerDicer: that works too
[04:46] <crimsun> intelikey: please confirm no ALSA modules are loaded (``lsmod|grep ^snd'' -> nothing)
[04:47] <laggerzero> i get that on every app that tries to use tcl tk
[04:47] <jquixote> Xenguy: mobility x300; dell D810
[04:47] <OmegaAlpha> there are errors with the clusters on the drive.. i dont really know what a cluster is..
[04:47] <crimsun> intelikey: and neither ad1816 nor sound are loaded
[04:47] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, you mean a graphical or a textbased?
[04:47] <SlicerDicer> _jason: '<IP_ADDRESS> hostname' for /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname its 'hostname'
[04:47] <Xenguy> jquixote: that is hardware-speak to me
[04:47] <jquixote> Xenguy: I fear I didn't install fglrx correctly or something
[04:47] <intelikey> crimsun confirmed
[04:47] <OmegaAlpha> for example i cant resize or move the partition because it comes up with too many errors and stops itself
[04:47] <Xenguy> jquixote: I stand aside for this question :-)
[04:47] <bluefoxicy> ubotu: build
[04:47] <ubotu> If you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with
[04:47] <TheWrench> Blippe: well, no, but I don't have that much media either...
[04:47] <crimsun> intelikey: ok. Does ``modprobe snd-ad1816a'' still return a PnP error?
[04:47] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, as in what? what the files look like?
[04:48] <jquixote> Xenguy: you wanted me to tell you the hardware
[04:48] <jquixote> I thought
[04:48] <intelikey> ad1816a: MPU401 PnP configure failure
[04:48] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, as in the remote terminal...
[04:48] <intelikey> crimsun ^
[04:48] <_jason> SlicerDicer: I would think it would work like that, but my hosts looks like: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost hostname
[04:48] <bluefoxicy> ubotu please give more detail, like saying that I could also apt-get source something essentials and then apt-get -b and have it install all needed build packages and build the package automaticalyl.
[04:48] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, bluefoxicy
[04:48] <Xenguy> jquixote: yes, you did, and I realize I can't help, so others must come forth
[04:48] <bluefoxicy> somebody make whatever i said make sense
[04:48] <OmegaAlpha> and then itll say that there are too many lost clusters or something liek that
[04:48] <bluefoxicy> and tell ubotu
[04:48] <SlicerDicer> _jason: ahh ok
[04:48] <laggerzero> anyone have any idea?
[04:48] <SlicerDicer> _jason: time to livecd again :)
[04:48] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, doesnt matter to me.. either or
[04:48] <crimsun> intelikey: ok, then you're facing a similar bug to Malone #11868
[04:48] <iGotNoTime> Blippe I am new to Gdesklets, I have the engine installed and running but where do I begin looking for packages that work with it?
[04:49] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10176
[04:49] <jquixote> others: come forth, be plentiful
[04:49] <_jason> SlicerDicer: make sure no typos and nothing extra in the files (newlines maybe)
[04:49] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, ssh and/or vnc
[04:49] <crimsun> intelikey: Have you tried Dapper Flight 4 and Dapper Flight 5 live cds?
[04:49] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, if i view the harddrive via terminal it still shows the crazy file names and how everythign has changed
[04:49] <intelikey> crimsun i'm on dialup.
[04:49] <intelikey> short answer no.
[04:49] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  any idea for a repo with dapper-ready anjuta 2.0.1?
[04:49] <SlicerDicer> _jason: yeah I just never had to do it like that before with other distros so I was not familar I will give it a shot see what happens
[04:49] <_jason> lewix: 'locate gxineplugin.so'
[04:49] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, umm whats vnc?
[04:49] <Blippe> iGotNoTime, not really sure, quite some time ago since i last used it
[04:50] <balu1> nickrud: blahh cant edit ur wiki. ubuntu keeps giving me some log in bs
[04:50] <crimsun> intelikey: still on Hoary, or using Breezy?
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I know you guys have like 6 billion repos around :>
[04:50] <intelikey> crimsun but i have had the sound working on this 5.4 before on this box.
[04:50] <vejan> question?????
[04:50] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, vnc is similar to remote desktop
[04:50] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10177
[04:50] <vercellone> not secure or encrypted though
[04:50] <Xenguy>  /xngy trs t tlk wth n vwls...
[04:50] <laggerzero> i wasn't all to impressed with breezy
[04:50] <laggerzero> I had so many issues with it
[04:50] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, oh how do i check to see which one i have if i do have any
[04:50] <crxyem> so anyone wanna answer an acpi Q ? ?
[04:50] <iGotNoTime> Blippe, no big deal found a huge resource :) thx again for the tip
[04:50] <vercellone> if connecting over public internet, you should use vnc
[04:51] <vejan> firefox will not connect to sun.com to get java
[04:51] <vercellone> er, ssh
[04:51] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: not that I'm aware (at least not one blessed by archive.ubuntu.com)
[04:51] <vercellone> doh
[04:51] <laggerzero> mainly because it seemed it was have gcc 4.0 and the other half gcc 3.4
[04:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vejan about javadebs
[04:51] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha,  a program that providing remote access to the GUI, keyboard and mouse
[04:51] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  seveas has some stuff laying around, the rest of you don't have anything?
[04:51] <V4Vendetta> laggerzero, that's not a problem ..
[04:51] <_jason> lewix: k, see where gxineplugin.so is with 'locate gxineplugin.so'
[04:51] <lewix> _jason, it's loading
[04:51] <laggerzero> it is when you have hardware driver conflicts
[04:51] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: you need to run it tunnelled over SSH
[04:51] <nate_> anyone know of a good doc for creating preseed files for d-i for ubuntu?
[04:51] <crimsun> intelikey: do you happen to remember which kernel you were running when it did produce sound?
[04:51] <vejan> THANK U!!!!!
[04:51] <bluefoxicy> deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sid
[04:52] <intelikey> this one.
[04:52] <OmegaAlpha> oh i dont really know how to do that stuff.. i remember someone tellign me about tunneling
[04:52] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, if you are running ubuntu, you can enable vnc by going to System->Preferences->REmote Desktop
[04:52] <jquixote> here's a question.. My desktop locked up and I had to restart.. now my apt-get doesn't work.. complains that "E: Could not get lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:52] <intelikey> same 2.6.10-5-386 crimsun
[04:52] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  acn you help me well-form this line?
[04:52] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: just find a HOWTO - you can use SSH tunneling for a lot of things
[04:52] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, if textbased is ok with you, you should look into ssh!
[04:52] <nate_> jquixote, is something else that uses it open?  like the updater in the taskbar?
[04:52] <vercellone> but, it listens on your external network interface by default....I'm trying to deal with that myself at the moment
[04:53] <jquixote> nevermind.. was doing a an update.. tanks nate
[04:53] <nate_> no problem :D
[04:53] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, i enabled it
[04:53] <crimsun> intelikey: interesting. Have you added or removed any hardware?
[04:53] <laggerzero> hey I'm having some TCL TK issues
[04:53] <SlicerDicer> _jason: still not working
[04:53] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy, yeah thats what someone was telling me
[04:53] <laggerzero> is anyone else having them?
[04:53] <vercellone> SSH tunnelling rocks.....I use it to remote desktop to my laptop at home
[04:53] <nate_> so, anyone know of any good docs for preseeding the debian-installer in ubuntu? :D
[04:53] <jquixote> but I did have that problem before, and then just rm-ed the cache
[04:54] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy, i was asking the one day about doing networking stuff and thats when someone brought up putty and ssh and tunneling and being able to access my computer from anywhere
[04:54] <intelikey> crimsun nope.  that is what is throwing me.... it is not a wh issus in as much as it still works the same on other os's
[04:54] <vercellone> Blippe, do you know where I can set vino-server command line options?
[04:54] <_jason> SlicerDicer: try a different hostname (in other words I don't know :))
[04:54] <Francisco> anyone. can  help me. I junt wanna know how to insert a picture on kile. LATEX
[04:54] <vercellone> Blippe, I want to either pass it the localhost option, or bind to a specific interface
[04:54] <crimsun> intelikey: /proc/interrupts contents?
[04:54] <jquixote> you know this gaim aint so bad for irc
[04:54] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, there's an app that's not available in ubuntu repos, but it integrates ssh and vnc in one app, it's prety nice
[04:54] <intelikey> sec
[04:55] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, text or gui doesnt matter.. whatever is easier first i guess since im kinda a newbie i havnt been using linux long.. and dont know much about networking.
[04:55] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: you need to state the candidate(s), like main contrib non-free
[04:55] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: so you are looking for VNC tunneled over SSH?
[04:55] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, I think it's ne...something
[04:55] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  thanks.
[04:55] <lewix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10179
[04:55] <_jason> SlicerDicer: what is your actual hostname?  it's not 'hostname' right?
[04:55] <intelikey> crimsun unless you want them all  "  5:          2          XT-PIC  AD1816A"
[04:55] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: if yes, use x11vnc
[04:55] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10179
[04:55] <crxyem> so anyone wanna help with an acpi issue
[04:55] <crimsun> intelikey: all would be most helpful
[04:55] <zedzero_> hellp
[04:55] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, so it integrates both text and gui together?
[04:55] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: a bit of a pain to configure, I thought, but do-able...
[04:55] <nate_> crxyem, i would, but i wouldn't be very helpful
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe anjuta-common 1.2.4a-2 [5823kB]
[04:56] <crxyem> lol
[04:56] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, yep :D
[04:56] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha:  I have an article somewhere
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  how do I force it to use sid ?
[04:56] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy, i dont know what that means hehe.. i dont remember what tunneling isi remember it was kinda simple though
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> i am trying to crossbuild anjuta 2.0.1 here.
[04:56] <zedzero_> can anyone please help me?
[04:56] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, I think it will probably be in dapper though
[04:56] <_jason> lewix: thos are errors from your terminal after running locate gxineplugin.so?  did you get a chance to run 'sudo updatedb' before?
[04:56] <Blippe> vercellone,  i guess a hack would be to bind its port to a specific interface
[04:56] <intelikey> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d10180
[04:56] <Francisco> some body knows how to use LaTex??
[04:56] <nate_> zedzero_, what's the problem?
[04:56] <nalioth> zedzero_: ask a question, please
[04:56] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: do you have a Dapper pbuilder configured?
[04:57] <bluefoxicy> pbuilder?
[04:57] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha,  try starting vino-preferences
[04:57] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, sounds cool i need to look into that as soon as i get this harddrive fixed so i can do all that networkign stuff that i want to do
[04:57] <CloFan> How do I navigate to my secondary disk drive?
[04:57] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, what's wrong with the drive?
[04:57] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: yeah, it'll be much easier to pbuilder build anjuta..dsc
[04:57] <percent_20> !64bit
[04:57] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, percent_20
[04:57] <TheWrench> Blippe, Falstius: does swap need to be called /swap?
[04:57] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, but i don't know about its security
[04:57] <percent_20> !nvidia64bit
[04:57] <pvd2006> this is really weird, I Can't figure out my root password... How stupid is that....
[04:57] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, percent_20
[04:57] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: basically it just means that you can encrypt various services you use over the Net; also you can forward one port to another, to circumvent firewalls, and so on
[04:57] <intelikey> CloFan is it mounted ?
[04:57] <crimson> any body know where i can get a halflife f4or linux
[04:57] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402&page=7
[04:57] <Falstius> TheWrench: no, you format it as swap (instead of ext3, fat, etc)
[04:57] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I have no idea what that is.  I'm just trying to grab http://packages.debian.org/experimental/gnome/anjuta with apt-get -b
[04:57] <crimson> or if they have it
[04:57] <zedzero_> to get rid of gnome, i installed ubuntu as server , afterwards i installed fluxbox, and some xserver things i dont know. but now i dont know how to get into graphical interface, im using a command line irc client
[04:58] <lewix> _jason, one moment I'm doing it right now
[04:58] <nate_> zedzero_, startx
[04:58] <CloFan> intelikey, it was in windows. my main drive failed and I replaced it and put linux on because I can't find my windows disk.
[04:58] <crimsun> intelikey: do you have anything attached to your printer port?
[04:58] <Blippe> TheWrench, no... let the install decide the for your swap...
[04:58] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I added debian sid to sources.list and tried to tell it to apt-get build-dep anjuta and apt-get -b it.
[04:58] <zedzero_> nate, i tried that but it doesnt work. it says no such command exists
[04:58] <lewix> _jason, /usr/lib/gxine/gxineplugin.so
[04:58] <lewix> /home/lewix/.mozilla/plugins/gxineplugin.so
[04:58] <lewix> /home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/gxineplugin.so
[04:58] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  do you have a better recommendation?
[04:58] <lewix> oups sorry
[04:58] <bluefoxicy> ubotu pbuilder
[04:58] <ubotu> somebody said pbuilder was a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[04:58] <Falstius> zedzero_: startx
[04:58] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, what vino.. how do i start the prefernces? do you mean wine?
[04:58] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: wait, 2.x is in experimental, not unstable, correct?
[04:58] <lewix> I forgot to paste
[04:58] <intelikey> crimsun yes but not powered up.
[04:58] <nate_> zedzero_, what precisely are you trying to start up?  x?
[04:59] <zedzero_> nate, yes
[04:59] <bluefoxicy> cirmsun ah ok, so....?    Did your music files have ID3 tags, perhaps you can rename based on tags?
[04:59] <Xenguy> pvd2006: I love your original question - it's so honest :-)
[04:59] <nate_> zedzero_, give me a minute
[04:59] <zedzero_> nate, ok
[04:59] <CloFan> intelikey: how do I mount it in ubuntu?
[04:59] <pvd2006> XenGuy: lol
[04:59] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, press alt-f2 and write vino-preferences
[04:59] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, the entire partition got messed up during a resizing.. now all the directories and file names are different.. and there are more files than before and the drive doesnt look right in the partition programs. and i cant resize it or move it.. it says there are errors - bad clusters or soemthing
[04:59] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, vino-preferences just brings up the same thing as System->Preferences->RemoteDesktop
[05:00] <_smd_> I have gain v1.50 right now,  however i canot get any user info
[05:00] <crimsun> intelikey: could you disable lpt0 in bios and see if that permits the snd* modules to load successfully on boot?
[05:00] <Falstius> zedzero_: this probably doesn't help now, but most graphical apps in Linux use either gnome or kde libraries so you don't gain very much by not installing at least one of them :)
[05:00] <_jason> lewix: pastebin 'ls /home/lewix/.mozilla/plugins/ /home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/ && dpkg -S /home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/gxineplugin.so'
[05:00] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, i already enabled it
[05:00] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, time to reinstall my man.  You have to weigh the amount of work versus the benefits....
[05:00] <TheWrench> Blippe, Falstius: does media need to be called something like F:, not just media?
[05:00] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: you can't pull it from unstable; you want to pull it from experimental
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Thers too many good gnome and kde aps out - to not install both. :P
[05:00] <zedzero_> falstius, i just wanted fluxbox because it was very lightweight
[05:01] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I can't make this pull from experimental either :(
[05:01] <nate_> zedzero_, i would install gnome, but use fluxbox as your WM
[05:01] <lgc> _jason, as far as I see, "smeg" and "alacarte" come from the same site. By the way, according to the ubuntuforums page I would need to enable backports on "sources.list". But they say it's kind of risky (why?). I'm still puzzled that I just can't edit the silly thing from the menu. How about enabling an icon for an application present? (For example, "AbiWord" appears with a generic icon, that I would like to change).
[05:01] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  it keeps preferring dapper
[05:01] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, i paused on it at the moment because i ketp getting alot of questions asking me to drop or rename the files.. and from what i seen in a file broswer.. there are shit loads of them.. ill be here all night
[05:01] <nate_> zedzero_, type 'ls -l /usr/bin/startx'
[05:01] <OmegaAlpha> so i enabled vino now what
[05:01] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: you should use 'deb-src http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free'
[05:01] <jquixote> How do I check what display I'm running in right  now, :0 or :1
[05:01] <jquixote> ?
[05:01] <OmegaAlpha> yeah someone told me last case scenario was to reformat
[05:01] <intelikey> CloFan someone could help you with a GUI way of doing that.    in cli do a "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mountpoint "    where mountpoint is some dir you want to use /mnt/disk for example  and  hdb1 assumes it is now first ide slave drive....
[05:01] <nate_> jquixote, if you didn't change anything, then it's :0
[05:01] <Blippe> TheWrench, you have to mount it somewhere like /stuff,  I would recommend /home/media or /home/[username] /media
[05:02] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: then apt-get source -texperimental anjuta
[05:02] <OmegaAlpha> but someone said there is a way to recover the data in here earlier
[05:02] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  ah, I was just using deb-src http;//blahblahblah/debian experimental main
[05:02] <zedzero_> [A
[05:02] <jquixote> nate_: I changed all kinds of stuff ;0
[05:02] <jquixote> ;)
[05:02] <am3r1ca> HELP ?? anyone know why when i insert a torrent into Azureus it says setLengy failed and doesnt dl ???
[05:02] <nalioth> lgc: alacarte is the latest version of smeg. they are both from the same author
[05:02] <OmegaAlpha> what is better anyways.. vnc or ssh?
[05:02] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, is it ext2?
[05:02] <_smd_> Also i hate amsn, but i like seeing user info,
[05:02] <_jason> lgc: smeg should allow you to edit icons.  Backports can be risky because they are packages brought from the new release in development.  For example, the firefox backport in hoary messed up people's firefox for a while.  It's probably ok to use now imo
[05:02] <OmegaAlpha> vnc is the gui and ssh is the text bases
[05:02] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, no fat32
[05:02] <Blippe> OmegaAlpha, ssh is safest
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> OmegaAlpha,  totally different tools for differnt tasks
[05:02] <vercellone> ssh can be configured to be encrypted (very secure)
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:03] <nalioth> lgc: i've never enabled backports, but then again, i am not one to whom "newer is better" BLING
[05:03] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, unless you understand what you did, anyone in here will be hard-pressed to help you recover it.  I can point you to a forensics liveCD which can recover nearly anything as long as the drive spins, but it's complicated
[05:03] <Falstius> am3r1ca: maybe you're trying to download to somewhere without enough space or write permissions.
[05:03] <zedzero_> nate, i dont have that file :(
[05:03] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: orthogenal
[05:03] <lewix> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10181
[05:03] <pvd2006> Besides re-installing linux, how can you obtain a new root password?
[05:03] <CloFan> intelikey: I foudn it in the Disk Manager, but the partitions are Windows NTFS.  Would that be a problem?
[05:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pvd2006 about root
[05:03] <nate_> zedzero_, then you don't have x installed, likely, so trying to start x is impossible
[05:03] <zedzero_> ,nate, but i have startfluxbox, which doesnt work because it needs X to be started first
[05:03] <Falstius> nate_: a free one?  What is it (for future reference)?
[05:03] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: er, orthogonal
[05:03] <intelikey> crimsun yeah i can change the irq in the bios.    i can disable it for testing but it will have to be turned back on.  so if changing it wont work there is still a problem.   but that hasn't been tuched sense the last time sound was working in ubuntu
[05:03] <zedzero_> nate, thanks, how do i install x?
[05:03] <OmegaAlpha> lol sounds like complicated stuff well im a newbie to some of this stuff
[05:03] <intelikey> CloFan yes it sould
[05:03] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, ugh..FAT32 :(
[05:03] <nate_> Falstius, it is free: http://www.e-fense.com/helix
[05:03] <Falstius> zedzero_: try running "startx"
[05:04] <am3r1ca> Falstius i check, more than enough
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I broke it.
[05:04] <zedzero_> falstius, it doesnt work
[05:04] <_jason> lewix: 'rm /home/lewix/.mozilla/plugins/gxineplugin.so /home/lewix/.firefox/plugins/gxineplugin.so', restart firefox
[05:04] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, hope you backed up before resize
[05:04] <nalioth> zedzero_: installing a desktop environment would do it
[05:04] <Chris_C> does anyone know how to force a password change past the "too similar to old password" rejection?
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  it installed anjuta 1.4.2 from dapper or something and I ctrl+c'd it and it broke the dpkg database!  :O
[05:04] <TheWrench> Blippe, I don't know about mounting. I have never used linux, could you give more detail?
[05:04] <am3r1ca> Falstius, i am dling to a fat32 partiontion, so i can resume the dl when in windows
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> dpkg: error processing anjuta (--remove):
[05:04] <bluefoxicy>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[05:04] <bluefoxicy>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[05:04] <zedzero_> nalioth, isnt fluxbox a desktop environment?
[05:04] <pvd2006> Nalioth: thanks, I didn't remember entering a root password ever, I thought I was going crazy at first.
[05:04] <Falstius> zedzero_: I didn't think it would, but it might give us some errors to work from .. what does it say?
[05:05] <pvd2006> until now I mean
[05:05] <OmegaAlpha> what happened was i ran out of space on a fat32 partition at the end of the drive, i use it for my p2p downloads.. so i went to resize it to be bigger and move it to the beginning of the drive..partition magic frozed during it.. and this is what happened
[05:05] <am3r1ca> but its wont start and says setLength failed !?!
[05:05] <intelikey> crimsun i'll go play with it some more.   thanks for all the effort.   i'll let you know if i get it.
[05:05] <nate_> zedzero_, fluxbox is a window manager, not a desktop environment
[05:05] <zedzero_> falstius, it doesnt exist :)
[05:05] <Falstius> zedzero, then you need to install xorg.
[05:05] <lgc> nalioth, _jason, thanks. But then how does an application installed by "apt-get" manages into the menu at all?
[05:05] <nate_> yep
[05:05] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, is fat32 bad? i had to use a fat because i use windows to use my p2p sharing
[05:05] <crimsun> intelikey: ok, thanks
[05:05] <Blippe> TheWrench, when you install ubuntu it will ask you about the mountpoint, it will feel a wee bit natural... linux uses a "root" / for all the media instead of A: b: C: D: etx
[05:05] <Blippe> etc
[05:05] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy,  what do you mean orthogonal
[05:05] <nate_> zedzero_, just install gnome then select fluxbox as your window manager
[05:05] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  the source line worked, how do I build it?
[05:06] <nalioth> lgc: the pkg has a set of instructions inside to place the components of the pkg into their respective places upon installation
[05:06] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, there are drivers for windows to read some linux filesystems that are far better than fat32
[05:06] <Falstius> zedzero_: There is probably a cleaner way to do it, but you can run "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[05:06] <zedzero_> nate, im not sure i did understand, isnt fluxbox a total substitue of gnome or kde? does fluxbox need gnome or kde to work?
[05:06] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, I think Reiser just came out with one and I think there has been an ext3 and ext2 one for a while
[05:06] <lgc> nalioth, I surmise. But do you know some of the details?
[05:06] <nalioth> zedzero_: it does not
[05:06] <nalioth> lgc: join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:06] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: make sure you have installed all the build-deps that are listed in debian/control:Build-Depends (or adjust them as necessary to fit what Dapper has), then ``debuild binary''
[05:06] <nate_> zedzero_, it needs xorg at least
[05:07] <bluefoxicy> sudo apt-get build-dep -texperimental anjuta anjuta-common
[05:07] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, i thought the exts were only for linux.. i heard of the reiser ones though...
[05:07] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  :)
[05:07] <CloFan> intelikey, thanks, I figured it out!
[05:07] <CryoTox> Anyone know of a app for ubuntu that I can create flash with?
[05:07] <zedzero_> nate, can you please tell me which packages i need to install to get xorg? (xorg doesnt work)
[05:07] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  yes everytihng it grabbed came from dapper, not debian ;)
[05:07] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, exts ARE linux-use only, but there are drivers so windows can use them as well
[05:07] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, its basically me using windows and downloading and having the fat32 fs just so i can be in linux and access them
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> windows can make use of ext2/3 with the right download. :P
[05:07] <lgc> nalioth, sure, but excuse the simple question. How? Something like /join #...?
[05:07] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: yeah, I can't generally recommend that with a mixed sources.list unless you have pinning enabled
[05:07] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, crap wish i knew that earlier haha
[05:08] <nalioth> lgc: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:08] <lewix> ouah
[05:08] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, you live, you learn :D
[05:08] <nate_> zedzero_, lemme look
[05:08] <lewix> _jason,  thanks
[05:08] <lewix> _jason,  thanks thanks thanks
[05:08] <OmegaAlpha> i really dont want to format because illl lose everythign right?
[05:08] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  i need to install debuild right?  I thought I could just apt-get -b -something -make-me-a-package it  :)
[05:08] <percent_20> unubtu uses xorg.conf doesn't it? cuz i keep configuring it but none of the chnages seem to take affect
[05:08] <bluefoxicy> E: Couldn't find package debuild
[05:08] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, you said something about a live cd?
[05:08] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: devscripts
[05:08] <_jason> lewix: np
[05:08] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  on my way.  :)
[05:08] <CryoTox> Looked everywhere but I can't find a bloody program..
[05:09] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, http://www.e-fense.com/helix
[05:09] <Rower> im getting error code 1 when im trying to install apache, what could be the problem
[05:09] <lewix> _jason, no seriously THANKS lol...hmm finally linux isnt bad :)
[05:09] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  do you recommend fakeroot or just running as root?  (dumb ass question but)
[05:09] <Falstius> zedzero_: the base package is xserver-xorg ... but you'll probably need to grab the right drivers and such.
[05:09] <nate_> zedzero_, 'apt-get -y install xserver-xorg
[05:09] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: fakeroot
[05:09] <zedzero_> thanks
[05:09] <bluefoxicy> dpkg-source: failure: create file anjuta_2.0.1-2.diff.gz: Permission denied
[05:09] <bluefoxicy> dpkg-buildpackage failed!
[05:10] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  fakeroot doesn't work.  :(
[05:10] <zedzero_> also ive got another problem
[05:10] <nate_> zedzero_, no i will not make out with you
[05:10] <zedzero_> how can i force apt-get to get files only from internet, not cd?
[05:10] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: did you apt-get as root?
[05:10] <nate_> zedzero_, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:10] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  i'm changing permissions now thanks.
[05:10] <nate_> zedzero_, and put a # before the first line
[05:10] <lewix> _jason, do you code ?
[05:10] <nate_> zedzero_, then do an apt-get update
[05:10] <pvd2006> I am having a problem running limewire on Ubuntu. I pasted the errors to pastebin at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/601051
[05:10] <TheWrench> Blippe, ok. I am still not quite clear. I want a big partition which is accessable from both linux and windows, on which to store my media files.  I will make it fat32 since I am new to linux, so I will probably create it when I install windows.  this means thatit will have a lettername, like a: right?
[05:11] <Rower> im getting error code 1 when im trying to install apache, what could be the problem
[05:11] <_jason> lewix: here and there, not much
[05:11] <Falstius> zedzero_: modify /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the CD entry.
[05:11] <nate_> The_Isle_of_Mark, install windows dirst
[05:11] <_jason> Rower: what error code?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> TheWrench,  it will have a letter under windows, same as normal. You can mount it whever ya want under linux.
[05:11] <lewix> _jason, ok
[05:11] <nate_> TheWrench, install windows first, imo
[05:11] <zedzero_> thanks
[05:12] <nate_> TheWrench, off-subject for your question, but good advice
[05:12] <OmegaAlpha> nate_,  what exactly is that.. a booting cd? this is an external harddrive.. so i dont boot from it
[05:12] <TheWrench> nate_, Falstius: ok. thanks.
[05:12] <OmegaAlpha> Blippe, when you were telling me about vnc were you referring to how i can go somewhere else and access my computer or were you getting to somethign else to do with it?
[05:12] <zedzero_> i have installed xserver-xorg and configured the resolution. now what should i do? (startx still doesnt work)
[05:13] <Blippe> TheWrench, yes, in windows it will have a lettername, in linux, no!
[05:13] <intelikey> well i'm going to break this thing.   i've started removing kernel modules from lib/  if it can't find them it can't load them.
[05:13] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, it's a bootable CD that boots you into Helix, a debian-derived liveCD linux distribution, that is specifically for computer forensics, which happens to also be useful for data-recovery
[05:13] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, that is a good link you sent me on vnc.. so i guess i can access my computer somewhere else.. even the same session somewhere else?
[05:13] <Blippe> TheWrench, but I would recommend you to create the fat artition in linux instead!
[05:13] <Alex2> blippe, thanks a good read, a little greek but looks like the answer..
[05:13] <nate_> zedzero_, ls -l /usr/bin/startx
[05:13] <lewix> _jason,  how can I delete files in the terminal
[05:13] <lewix> del* ?
[05:13] <_jason> lewix: rm
[05:13] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, ah i see. sounds very nice to have... i take it i burn it as an iso and just pop it in?
[05:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell lewix about cli
[05:14] <zedzero_> nate, no such file or dir...
[05:14] <Blippe> Alex2, I haven't used it myself, but a friend told me it was good... I don't know...
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Time to google for a Bash Tutorial or 4 :P
[05:14] <TheWrench> Blippe, why?
[05:14] <thisguy> hey, my install cd doesnt work on this laptop, how can i manually install from livecd?
[05:14] <CryoTox> Arggh, ye all be useless :P
[05:14] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, yes, but like I said before, using the forensics tools is not a trivial task, it may take a lot of fiddling and a lot of doing
[05:14] <CryoTox> found my own
[05:14] <intelikey> Dr_Willis bash-doc ?
[05:14] <lewix> _jason, and if it's a folder ?
[05:14] <thisguy> anyone?
[05:14] <Blippe> TheWrench, if you are new to linux it will be easier to find for you...
[05:14] <lastetn> !pastebin
[05:14] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:14] <nate_> thisguy, doesn't work?
[05:15] <_jason> lewix: if it is empty 'rmdir', otherwise 'rm -r' will delete recursively
[05:15] <nate_> thisguy, how does it 'not work'?
[05:15] <Blippe> TheWrench, just a thing tha will make your total setup easier...
[05:15] <thisguy> error loading kernel and timesettings, only live cd works (which im using now)
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  any of the hundreds of bash tutorials out on the web :P
[05:15] <vercellone> OmegaAlpha, I'm outta here for now...sorry I couldn't be more help, but it looks like you are in good hands...good luck
[05:15] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, yes i see they offer training with it and for law enforcements.. wow this is the good stuff eh? and to think i paid some guy in a computer shop 100 dollars to retrieve data on my internal hd when i crashed this laptop
[05:15] <TheWrench> Blippe, it will be easier from both windows and linux, or just from linux?
[05:15] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: 2 concept categories at right angles; they don't fit on the same level
[05:15] <thisguy> other distros have install commands, how do i do this in ubuntu?
[05:16] <Blippe> TheWrench, otherwise you need to learn how to automount and stuff... And easier from both...
[05:16] <intelikey> Dr_Willis i was asking if you have looked at  package  bash-doc
[05:16] <OmegaAlpha> vercellone, thanks alot for you help i appreciate.. yeah i think ill be ok
[05:16] <zedzero_> nate, do you have any ideas?
[05:16] <intelikey> bash-doc - Documentation and examples for the The GNU Bourne Again SHell
[05:16] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, another option is to use helix from windows.  It has many many VERY useful windows tools for data recovery which are easier to use (but not as effective)
[05:16] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: in this case vnc and ssh work together better, not apart :-)
[05:16] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, just pop it in and the auto-run will bring up the menu
[05:16] <Falstius> Is it worth it to upgrade to dapper (from Breezy) for my only desktop?  AKA, is it stable enough?
[05:16] <Kanalal> can someone tell me if its possible to bind two commands to a key? or to bind a script to a key
[05:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell thisguy about synaptic
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  i was refering to the OTHEr person needing to google for some bash fundamental docs. :P
[05:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell thisguy about apt
[05:17] <Xenguy> Falstius: stick with stable; what justifies a risk currently?
[05:17] <chuckyp> Falstius, you question would be better fielded in #ubuntu+1  <<< that is dapper discussion
[05:17] <Falstius> Kanalal: yes, it is.
[05:17] <Kanalal> which one?
[05:17] <nate_> TheWrench, easier to just use one operating system, but if you want to do both, install windows first (leaving room on the hard drive), then install linux
[05:17] <Kanalal> the two commands or the script?
[05:17] <thisguy> ....install from live-cd....yes? anyone?
[05:17] <Xenguy> chuckyp: the question is breezy vs. dapper
[05:17] <lewix> _jason,  I have an *.exe file I can't erase it
[05:17] <chuckyp> Kanalal, both
[05:17] <zedzero_> i have installed xserver-xorg but startx still doesnt work. is this normal_?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> thisguy,  work in progress for Dapper. I hear.
[05:17] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, guess ill have to steal another cd-r off my bro haha
[05:17] <Falstius> Xenguy: that's what I was wondering, what would be worth it ;)
[05:17] <chuckyp> Xenguy, he's asking if its stable enough
[05:17] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, hehe :D
[05:17] <_jason> lewix: where is it and what does it say when you try
[05:18] <OmegaAlpha> nate_, how can i scan and fix the errors.. i cant do it with chkdsk in windows...
[05:18] <chuckyp> Falstius, what are you trying to gain by going to dapper?
[05:18] <Blippe> nate_ we were talking about the fat32 partition...
[05:18] <Xenguy> Falstius: nothing, except bleeding-edge risk :-)  It's but a month (or 2) away
[05:18] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy, so i guess that program that integrates the both of them is the way to go.. if i can only find it
[05:18] <nate_> OmegaAlpha, fschk in linux
[05:18] <TheWrench> nate_,I plan ondoing windows first
[05:18] <thisguy> come on someone, install cd dont load, i need a walkthrough for live-cd install....
[05:18] <Kanalal> chuckyp: how do i do the two commands i tried using | ; and : as seperators| but i dont know what else to try?
[05:18] <Xenguy> chuckyp: rather, is stable current enough I think
[05:18] <chuckyp> OmegaAlpha, what are you trying to do?
[05:18] <chuckyp> Kanalal, & <<<
[05:19] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: you need specific software?
[05:19] <Kanalal> thanks
[05:19] <nate_> TheWrench, good :D
[05:19] <OmegaAlpha> Xenguy, im totally new to using either. so i wouldn tknow where to begin. i did learn how todo the control -alt f# thing and to log in again but i forgot what that new command like is.. a console right? someone was trying to explain everythign to me.. and the differences
[05:19] <_jason> thisguy: did you burn the disc at a low speed?
[05:19] <Xenguy> OmegaAlpha: my gawd, stick with breezy/stable...
[05:19] <OmegaAlpha> heres what i want to do overall...
[05:19] <am3r1ca> Falstius thanx