[00:00] <gamerchick02> oooo jrwren, how's it running?
[00:00] <gamerchick02> it was a hair slow off the stick
[00:00] <jrwren> insanely nice.
[00:01] <jrwren> 6s boot to login prompt
[00:01] <gamerchick02> whoa
[00:01] <gamerchick02> how's the battery?
[00:01] <gamerchick02> i'm getting over 4 hrs with OSX but it's down to about 3 with ubuntu
[00:01] <jrwren> and this past hour has been more time than I've spent with unity, every. its really nice.
[00:01] <gamerchick02> but that might be something to do with the USB stick
[00:01] <jrwren> says 5hrs.
[00:01] <gamerchick02> nice
[00:02] <jrwren> i don't know when unity added the help when you hold super down for a long time, but that is just excellent.
[00:02] <gamerchick02> nice
[00:03] <gamerchick02> now the question... what if you want to go back to OSX?
[00:03] <gamerchick02> unless you dual booted
[00:03] <jrwren> i dual booted.
[00:03] <gamerchick02> i only have a 128 gb SSD so it's not really possible. if i'd gotten a larger drive i might dual boot
[00:03] <jrwren> and installed refit too.
[00:03] <gamerchick02> nice
[00:03] <jrwren> yeah, I have 512
[00:03] <gamerchick02> yeah. way better
[00:04] <gamerchick02> maybe when my mac goes off update support i'll ubuntu it up
[00:04] <jrwren> i bought the highest macbookair I could get, because the only thing I didn't want, was online store only.
[00:04] <gamerchick02> dang
[00:04] <jrwren> hey, its for work.
[00:04] <jrwren> a worker should use the best tools money can buy :)
[00:05] <gamerchick02> i got what i thought was a good deal in Portland: 128 gb, 4 gb RAM, 11" screen, case, for a hair over $1200
[00:05] <gamerchick02> offing case was like $50. just for a soft zip case. oh well
[00:05] <gamerchick02> *effing. i can't even fake curse properly
[00:05] <jrwren> sounds like a normal price for that now.
[00:06] <jrwren> yeah, cases are expensive.
[00:06] <jrwren> i stole my wife's old spire bag years ago.
[00:06] <gamerchick02> nice
[00:06] <gamerchick02> well i figure if i have a form fitting case i can put it in whatever bag i want
[00:06] <jrwren> she used to carry a tiny toshiba portige in it
[00:06] <jrwren> yup, truth.
[00:06] <gamerchick02> and i'm being bad and not going to mug tonight
[00:06] <gamerchick02> i should
[00:07] <jrwren> ah, me too.
[00:07] <jrwren> i should have gone.
[00:07] <jrwren> so THAT is where the chatters are :)
[00:07] <jrwren> i need to learn lots about go-lang
[00:07] <gamerchick02> LOL
[00:07] <gamerchick02> go-lang?
[00:08] <jrwren> that is the mug topic for tonight
[00:08] <gamerchick02> http://ukutabs.com/t/the-white-stripes/hotel-yorba/ i wanna learn that really well. i should listen to the song more so i can figure out the stemming pattern
[00:08] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/ojSYS5 - "Hotel Yorba" by The White Stripes Ukulele Tabs on UkuTabs
[00:08] <jrwren> great song.
[00:08] <gamerchick02> i know!
[00:08] <jrwren> ever drive by there?
[00:09] <gamerchick02> no i've not
[00:09] <gamerchick02> and C-D-G so it's not too hard!
[00:09] <jrwren> head south in i75 out of detroit. it isn't very far down the road
[00:09] <gamerchick02> cool
[00:09] <gamerchick02> i should.
[00:09] <jrwren> i've never been in there. I kinda wanna check out the lobby while listening to the song :)
[00:10] <gamerchick02> that'd be way cool
[00:10] <gamerchick02> i'm happy that your install went well
[00:11] <gamerchick02> i forgot that i had a 16 gb thumb drive so i'll redo the ubuntu install to it so i have more room
[00:26] <gamerchick02> gonna lay on the couch. feeling icky. hope more people are in chat tomorrow! well, maybe not, since it's coffeehouse coders.
[00:57] <mrgoodcat> jrwren: glad i'm not the only person who likes unity
[01:26] <jrwren> i like it a lot, I only wish there was a way to shrink the chrome.
[03:32] <cmaloney> Evening
[03:32] <cmaloney> jrwren: Yeah, you should have come to MUG. :)
[05:59] <waldo323> GO language video will be available soon though for those that missed it
[11:26] <jrwren> i'm going to watch teh video
[11:26] <jrwren> i was honestly distracted with work up through when mug started :)
[11:29] <rick_h__> morning
[11:37] <jrwren> morning
[12:24] <mrgoodcat> i want to see that one too
[12:24] <mrgoodcat> i think i'm going to go back and watch some of those videos on the MUG g+ today
[12:45] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:47] <brousch> So far
[12:51] <waf> i've already lived through it, i can assure you it will be a good morning.
[12:52] <jrwren> waf: lol!
[12:52] <jrwren> waf: how's winter?
[12:53] <waf> it's a balmy 84 degrees! quite nice
[12:54] <rick_h__> waf: woot! how goes?
[12:54] <waf> pretty good. arrived in Thailand this past saturday, so this week is full of apartment hunting
[12:55] <jrwren> i just realized all the world cup games have been played in winter.
[12:55] <waf> i should be able to move in to an apartment sometimes next week.
[12:55] <jrwren> oh Thailand. it isn't winter there.
[12:55] <jrwren> my brain is broken. I was thinking you were in AU.
[12:56] <waf> ah, yeah, that was a potential plan if the political instability in Thailand was an issue
[12:56] <waf> but things are fine here
[13:02] <brousch> Why would you move to Thailand?
[13:02] <jrwren> for work.
[13:02] <jrwren> plus, its awesome.
[13:03] <waf> yeah, jrwren summed it up. i had an internship i really liked, and my boss during that internship asked if i wanted to join him at his company in thailand.
[13:05] <brousch> What is awesome about it?
[13:05] <brousch> I honestly know nothing about Thailand
[13:07] <waf> the weather is awesome (tad on the hot side, but there's zero snow), the people are super friendly, stunning beaches.
[13:07] <waf> everything is very inexpensive, which is great if you're on a western salary
[13:08] <waf> and bangkok is a modern city with all the niceties you'd expect.
[13:08] <brousch> Do most people speak English?
[13:09] <waf> in bangkok most people speak some english (at a first-grade level or so). all the street signs and such have english
[13:10] <waf> though i'm learning thai, because it's more fun that way
[13:12] <brousch> That's not bad
[13:13] <waf> nope
[13:16] <brousch> It sounds like a great life opportunity. I'm jealous
[13:17] <jrwren> brousch: massage parlors
[13:17] <waf> yeah, i may be insane for doing this, but it's not really a thing i'd want to pass up
[13:17] <jrwren> massage parlors are awesome about it :p
[13:18] <waf> seriously. there are parlors every 100 feet or so. not sure how many of them are legit
[13:18] <rick_h__> 10
[13:19] <rick_h__> my uncle-in-law was camping with us over the 4th. He was in thailand during the unrest. He says it was actually a good thing. Nice curfew for the students, guess he thinks it'll be good for the country as a whole, etc.
[13:19] <rick_h__> he's been going there for education related stuff for some 30 years
[13:19] <jrwren> waf: remember advise of Jimmy Dugan
[13:20] <brousch> waf: Definitely not insane
[13:26] <waf> rick_h__: nice, does he teach english? seems like that's what 90% of foreigners here do.
[13:26] <rick_h__> waf: I didn't get that.  As a sysadmin I liked it)
[15:13] <brousch> CentOS, or Red Hat?
[15:13] <cmaloney> CentOS
[15:13] <brousch> So Red Hat is OK?
[15:14] <cmaloney> brousch: I have no direct experience
[16:06] <krondor> CentOS is redhat now, or at least that's how I saw it
[16:28] <waldo323> I was happy when I heard that even though we don't use it much
[16:31] <cmaloney> grrr... Hate it when a long-running process craps out because I have a typo
[16:39] <krondor> waldo323: yeah it just means better support.  We have a lot of centos and redhat, but most of my systems aren't.
[16:42] <rick_h__> it's a path for RH to keep a RH that's disinct from the paid for supported RH
[16:42] <rick_h__> IMO :)
[16:44] <krondor> it looks to me like redhat == debian, centos == debian unstable, fedora == ubuntu more or less
[16:48] <krondor> also centos gives redhat a starting point to upsell support, where they would have missed out in the past
[16:48] <rick_h__> well they figured out fedora wasn't the onramp to RHE but centos was
[17:49] <krondor> wow when did 6TB HDDs come out?
[17:50] <waldo323> When I wasn't looking
[17:51] <krondor> and I felt like HDD increases were slowing with SSD acceptance guess not
[18:01] <jrwren> a while, ago, IIRC they are enterprise class only
[18:01] <jrwren> and very $$$
[18:02] <mrgoodcat> super big hard drives are a bad idea anyways...
[18:02] <jrwren> why?
[18:02] <mrgoodcat> i'd rather RAID together a few smaller ones in raid 6
[18:02] <jrwren> i'd rather raid 6- 6TB in RAID6
[18:03] <mrgoodcat> it has to do with the URE rate when rebuilding arrays after a drive failure
[18:05] <mrgoodcat> with a URE of 10^-14 you can expect a URE every 12.5TB or so
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> If you had a 8 drive array with 2 TB drives with one failure your chance of having a unrecoverable read error would be near 100%. That second unreadable block during a RAID5 recovery is enough to destroy the RAID group and wipe out all the data on it. Not good!
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> with 6 TB drives its even worse
[18:08] <mrgoodcat> granted, enterprise class drives have much lower URE rates and RAID 6 can mitigate the issue, but it's still an issue
[18:08] <mrgoodcat> one to be aware of anyways
[18:10] <jrwren> nonsense.
[18:11] <jrwren> given that argument we should always prefer the smallest drives.
[18:11] <jrwren> we don't.
[18:11] <jrwren> we weigh pros and cons and make a choice.
[18:14] <mrgoodcat> this is an old article but it summarizes the issue nicely http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/why-raid-5-stops-working-in-2009/162
[18:22] <krondor> jrwren:  not the consumer ones are out I mean.  $299 from seagate
[18:23] <krondor> s/not/no/
[18:28] <krondor> mrgoodcat, nice points re: rebuilds still it's a risk/performance/cost calculation
[18:28] <krondor> personally I'd like to devote less power and space to spinning disks if I can so >disks are a good thing re: raid6 or 10
[18:29] <jrwren> yeah, blah to all that.
[18:29] <rick_h__> lol
[18:29] <jrwren> give me my storage :)
[18:31] <krondor> haha give me stable btrfs raid6 too :)
[18:31] <mrgoodcat> RAID 5 is dead and RAID 6 is on the way out
[18:31] <mrgoodcat> wont be long until replication is the only way to go
[18:31] <jrwren> whatever that means.
[18:31] <jrwren> ceph disks FTW!
[18:32] <krondor> raid 0 only and n+1 systems, don't rebuild just reload
[18:32] <jrwren> Seagate® Kinetic Open Storage !!!!
[18:32] <mrgoodcat> what krondor said
[18:32] <mrgoodcat> Google already does that
[18:32] <jrwren> i'd wager google doesn't use anything like RAID
[18:32] <jrwren> no raid0, no raid1
[18:32] <mrgoodcat> nope
[18:32] <mrgoodcat> they use Google File System
[18:33] <jrwren> no, they don't use that anymore either.
[18:33] <jrwren> that is obsolete
[18:33] <krondor> ramfs all the things
[18:33] <mrgoodcat> which replicates everything 3 times. they don't try to rebuild arrays, they just toss the whole thing and reload the data
[18:33] <jrwren> see the Spanner paper.
[18:33] <jrwren> sure, cept those systems aren't filesystems which run on block store.
[18:34] <jrwren> they are database systems which run on disks with ufs-style filesystems
[18:34] <jrwren> so... XFS and ext[234]
[18:34] <mrgoodcat> sorry, colossus or whatever they're calling it these days
[18:34] <jrwren> colossus is different still.
[18:34] <jrwren> they do LOTS of things
[18:34] <jrwren> becuase there is no silver bullet
[18:35] <jrwren> use what is optimal given your workload
[18:35] <krondor> so at my house where n+1 systems and raid 0 aren't practical, raid 6 + big disks seems good :)
[18:40] <jrwren> i just want lots of storage for lots of media :)
[18:49] <mrgoodcat> so you may as well just raid0 and be done with it
[18:52] <jrwren> i do.
[18:53] <jrwren> home is different than work
[18:53] <jrwren> and varying workload need varying storage solutions
[19:11] <cmaloney> I'd love to know why I had Blind Melon's No Rain in my music library
[19:11] <cmaloney> it was part of a compilation so I know where it came from
[19:12] <cmaloney> I'm just not sure why I left it on the drive
[19:12] <cmaloney> since that song sends me into a rage unlike most songs
[19:14] <cmaloney> also: I married well when my wife starts quoting primus songs to me. :)
[19:17] <mrgoodcat> lol why hate blind melon?
[19:18] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I fucking hate that song
[19:18] <cmaloney> a) overplayed
[19:18] <cmaloney> b) a reminder of the whiny grunge period that I can't fucking stand
[19:19] <mrgoodcat> just that one song? or blind melon in general?
[19:19] <mrgoodcat> also, never really thought of blind melon as very "grunge"
[19:19] <cmaloney> I haven't heard anything else by that band and I don't care to
[19:19] <brousch> Blind Melon r0x
[19:19] <cmaloney> They're in the same category for me as Hootie and the Blowfish
[19:20] <brousch> Hootie r0x
[19:20] <cmaloney> ops pls
[19:20] <cmaloney>  /permaban brousch
[19:21] <cmaloney> I have never heard a more bland album in my life than Hootie and the Blowfish's album
[19:21] <cmaloney> Sounds like cows grazing in a field
[19:21] <mrgoodcat> lol
[19:21] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[19:22] <cmaloney> Ah, apparently we lost our bot.
[19:22] <mrgoodcat> D:
[19:23] <cmaloney> Well now I have no way to let you all know I'm listening to Jane's Addiction
[19:23] <cmaloney> oh, wait.
[19:23] <mrgoodcat> .np squeekyhoho
[19:23] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Disconnect by Rollins Band on Weight
[19:23] <mrgoodcat> i got you
[19:23] <mrgoodcat> and you lied to us
[19:24] <cmaloney> It just changed.
[19:24] <cmaloney> http://www.last.fm/user/squeekyhoho
[19:24] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/D6yTS6 - squeekyhoho’s Music Profile – Users at Last.fm
[19:24] <mrgoodcat> i believe you
[19:25] <jrwren> .np evarlast
[19:25] <bookiebot> evarlast's last track - Take As Normal by The Invincible Spirit on Anthology 1984-2004 [8 Jul 2014, 21:12]
[19:25] <jrwren> well THAT is false
[19:29] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[19:29] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Black Flowers by Fishbone on Give A Monkey A Brain And He'll Swear He's The Center Of The Universe
[19:30] <jrwren> .np evarlast
[19:30] <bookiebot> evarlast's current track - Social Distortion (Reclubbed Mix) by Rotersand
[19:30]  * cmaloney just found the album he's going to finish listening to
[19:30]  * cmaloney wants to see the Fishbone documentary
[19:30] <cmaloney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChXk4R0mGNw
[19:31] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/4EPr1e - "EVERYDAY SUNSHINE: THE STORY OF FISHBONE" - documentary trailer - YouTube
[19:31] <krondor> so cmaloney has listened to an entire hootie album but not blind melon?  priorities man
[19:33] <mrgoodcat> i like to blow my friends minds when i tell them Darius Rucker is the guy from Hootie and the Blowfish
[19:36] <cmaloney> krondor: Happened upon a copy of Cracked Rear Window and gave it a quick listen
[19:36] <cmaloney> and wondered why the hell I was doing this to myself.
[19:37]  * krondor needs to remember to leave Blind Melon - Blind Melon nonchalantly at CHC some day
[19:37] <cmaloney> krondor: Not if you want to live.
[19:39] <krondor> allmusic gives it a 4/5 and users 4.5/5 ratings, but unfortunately they also give cracked rear window a 4.5/5 and users give it a 4/5
[19:39] <krondor> so I wouldn't call it a good source ...
[19:40] <mrgoodcat> krondor: do i know you irl?
[19:40] <mrgoodcat> having trouble matching faces to fake names
[19:40] <rick_h__> mrgoodcat: he's been to CHC, and coming tonight right krondor?
[19:41] <mrgoodcat> krondor: were you the one there last week?
[19:41] <krondor> rick_h__ I think so, the boys are at a fair so if they don't make it back in time I might not be able to though
[19:41] <rick_h__> krondor: ah ok
[19:42] <rick_h__> krondor: give me a heads up one way or the other so I know if I should wait
[19:42] <krondor> mrgoodcat:  not last week, but I think I met you a month ago or so, we exchange IRC handles at any rate
[19:42] <krondor> exchanged that is, I hate laptop keyboards or at least this one
[19:42] <mrgoodcat> probably
[19:43] <mrgoodcat> i'm terrible at these things


[20:57] <Peri_> it signaled me to update and then froze
[20:57] <Peri_> then i restarted after waiting a day
[20:57] <Peri_> it just froze during the update process
[20:57] <theadmin> donj_: Search for "Login Window" or "Login Screen" in your apps, that'll help you with autologin
[20:57] <beandog> Okay
[20:57] <donj_> its lubuntu btw
[20:58] <beandog> Peri_: what does it do when you boot
[20:58] <theadmin> donj_: Ah, Lubuntu... Might want to edit /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf then
[20:58] <Peri_> it goes to a purple screen w/the list of options... then whichever one i click that isn't recovery mode will lead to a black screen with a blinking dash in the corner
[20:59] <CookieM> Peri_ tried manually run 'update manager'?
[20:59] <Peri_> idn how
[20:59] <beandog> Peri_: so boot loader
[21:00] <Peri_> ?
[21:00] <beandog> Peri_: your boot screen
[21:01] <Peri_> u mean the recovery?
[21:01] <Peri_> i tried to update everything on recovery mode, it did nothing
[21:01] <beandog> Peri_: so you can get into recovery mode?
[21:02] <Peri_> ya
[21:02] <beandog> Hmm
[21:02] <Peri_> the force start doesn't work
[21:02] <beandog> Peri_: what option did you pick in recovery mode
[21:02] <Peri_> i clicked all the update options
[21:02] <Peri_> it ran thru and finished
[21:03] <beandog> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[21:03] <beandog> Peri_: do you have that drop to root option?
[21:03] <theadmin> donj_: This shows the file before/after editing, to get the basic idea of what to do: http://i.imgur.com/jtOf1.png
[21:03] <Peri_> yea
[21:04] <donj_> ah
[21:04] <donj_> gimme a sec to edit
[21:04] <jodra13579> Hello everyone! Does anyone know how to find specific drivers for wireless adapters for Ubuntu?
[21:05] <guntbert> !wireless | jodra13579
[21:05] <jodra13579> Thank you!
[21:05] <beandog> Peri_: can you go in there?
[21:06] <Peri_> yea
[21:06] <beandog> Peri_: k do that, then try aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade
[21:06] <Peri_> wait
[21:06] <brightsparks> Hi what's the simplest way to connect 2 linux computers at home without using the internet or a modem?
[21:07] <Peri_> root is different from grub>?
[21:07] <ryebread761> hello
[21:07] <beandog> Peri_: yah, if youre running as root, you're inside the fs
[21:07] <nexium> Does wine has a mirc channel?
[21:07] <Peri_> ok i think root doesnt work
[21:07] <Peri_> only grub
[21:07] <beandog> Peri_: can you make sure
[21:08] <Peri_> i remember
[21:08] <Peri_> im not even there
[21:08] <guntbert> !aptitude | beandog i'd recommend using apt-get
[21:08] <Peri_> on university comp
[21:08] <Peri_> im just writing down commands to try
[21:08] <jagginess> brightsparks, you can use a cross-wire cable rj-45 -- and use <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> (both can have mask /24)
[21:08] <beandog> Peri_: oh okay
[21:09] <Peri_> there is no way to renew your os installation within grub>
[21:09] <beandog> Peri_: yah, sorry, I dunno too much about rescuing Ubuntu systems.  You can boot off a live USB though and get your data off
[21:09] <beandog> Peri_: grub is just the bootloader ... it tells the computer what OS to boot into.  Depending on your options from there, you can get into the box, if the rescue options exist
[21:09] <beandog> There's some boot command foo you could do to get more data about why it's not loading
[21:09] <jagginess> Peri_, root for grub , in literature it means the "start" of a linux filesystem that contains grub.cfg
[21:10] <beandog> but that's a pain, and I don't really wanna explain that, especially if you're not at the box
[21:11] <Peri_> k its fine
[21:11] <brightsparks> jagginess: thanks. So I need to have an lan card in each computer connected with an rj-45-and  the <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> will be allocated to each computer? Not sure what mask /24 is -do I need to type something in the terminal to set this up?
[21:11] <Peri_> i did it once tho i remember
[21:11] <Peri_> but i ended up deleting all my registry
[21:11] <Peri_> u can access updates right
[21:11] <guntbert> !enter | Peri_
[21:12] <beandog> Peri_: what do you mean
[21:12] <Peri_> can't you remove/add files in grub like nvidia for ex
[21:12] <beandog> no not really
[21:12] <alusion_> How do I get ubuntu to recognize my webcam?
[21:13] <guntbert> !webcam | alusion
[21:14] <ivan__> Hi there, I have a problem with wi-fi in Ubuntu after upgrading to 12.04
[21:15] <ivan__> wi-fi networks are found but it wont connect to any
[21:15] <ivan__> it's always asking for password
[21:15] <Peri_> thx anyway
[21:16] <guntbert> ivan__: do you login with your password?
[21:16] <ivan__> sometimes he sucessfuly connects to network but I can't open any website
[21:16] <ivan__> guntbert: yes
[21:16] <Peri_> i need to learn linux sometime
[21:16] <ivan__> but I could open google.com by entering its IP address
[21:16] <Peri_> or befriend a computer science major
[21:17] <ivan__> what should I do?!
[21:17] <avid_fan> ivan__: then your dns isn't set up
[21:17] <ivan__> everythin was working fine before update
[21:18] <guntbert> ivan__: then you have a dns problem - send your /etc/resolv.conf to a pastebin  (use <IP_ADDRESS>   (thats paste.ubuntu.com)
[21:18] <beandog> Peri_: yah thats a rare problem you ran into
[21:19] <Peri_> wat do i start studying if i want to embark on a journey to become a linux guru?
[21:19] <guntbert> !ot | Peri_
[21:19] <avid_fan> ivan__: you could always edit /etc/resolv.conf and add the following line "name server <IP_ADDRESS>" (without quotes). That's one of Google's free public dns servers
[21:19] <ivan__> guntbert: only one line is in /etc/resolv.conf ( nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> )
[21:20] <avid_fan> ivan__: sorry it's "nameserver" dang auto correct, it's one word
[21:20] <guntbert> ivan__: that is the reason
[21:20] <ivan__> guntbert: can u explain, please
[21:20] <lorecaster> I have an HDMI connection between my 12.04 system running GNOME3 and I cannot see my in-monitor speakers in the settings=>sound pannel. Ideas?
[21:20] <ivan__> avid_fan: thanks for support
[21:20] <avid_fan> ivan__: np
[21:20] <guntbert> ivan__: do as avid_fan says, for the moment at least
[21:20] <ivan__> ok
[21:21] <avid_fan> guntbert: commands you. lol
[21:21] <ivan__> i'll try that..
[21:21] <guntbert> avid_fan: my reason for "at the moment" was that I don't want to recommend the google NS for standard - they do know too much already
[21:22] <MatCat> Hey, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTE, and for some reason my ability to change background images has stopped working, the settings program runs fine, but the background does not change, any ideas?
[21:22] <avid_fan> guntbert: agreed
[21:22] <avid_fan> ivan__: you could also use OpenDNS
[21:22] <avid_fan> doh!
[21:22] <avid_fan> ivan__: OpenDNS's servers <IP_ADDRESS> & <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:23] <beandog> Or google: <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:23] <guntbert> beandog: we've just been through that :)  see ^^^^
[21:23] <beandog> I'm in and out
[21:24] <avid_fan> beandog: that was my first suggestion and then guntbert reminded me of just how much google knows.
[21:24]  * beandog uses duckduckgo
[21:24] <avid_fan> wtg beandog
[21:24] <ivan__> avid_fan: guntbert: thank you guys, i have to restart my laptop
[21:24]  * beandog takes a bow
[21:24] <Zenogias> someone told me that if i want to learn linux, i should use slackware, debian, arch but do i really need to? I mean I find that I can accomplish everything i want within ubuntu. Would I ever have to KNOW linux well in the future?
[21:25] <ivan__> I entered <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:25] <beandog> Zenogias: no
[21:25] <ivan__> i'll inform you in a minute or to..
[21:25] <xangua> !ot | Zenogias
[21:25] <ivan__> *two
[21:25] <guntbert> ivan__: you will possibly loose the settings again - ...
[21:25] <ivan__> guntbert: why?
[21:25] <avid_fan> ivan__: guntbert is right if you're using dhcp
[21:25] <Phosphate> <- Linux VM nub. Should I be looking at KVM and AQEMU to get started?
[21:25] <Zenogias> ok thanks
[21:25] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm pretty new to Ubuntu. Is it generally a good idea to install all updates from the Updates Manager?
[21:26] <zastaph> is it possible to have an equals sign in a smbpassword given in .smbcredentials .. password=mypass=123 seems not to work
[21:26] <guntbert> ivan__: what avid_fan said
[21:26] <Phosphate> bluesnow: that or apt-get update & apt-get upgrade
[21:26] <guntbert> BlueEagle: yes
[21:26] <guntbert> bluesnow: yes
[21:27] <beandog> zastaph: try quotes?
[21:27] <zastaph> beandog, tried
[21:27] <beandog> zaspire: lame. :T
[21:27] <ivan__> avid_fan: is there any permanent solution?
[21:28] <ivan__> guntbert: avid_fan: it's working now..
[21:28] <ivan__> thank you
[21:28] <ivan__> guntbert: but, what about any permanent solution for this problem?
[21:28] <bluesnow> Does upgrading from one Ubuntu version like 11.04, to 12.04 made anything backwards incompatible/break anything?
[21:28] <sudipta> hi,I have a problem with empathy in ubuntu 12.04 in gnome-shell 3.4
[21:29] <bluesnow> *make anything incompatible/break anything?
[21:29] <sudipta> whenever i start empathy it crashs with an erron in mission control 5
[21:29] <avid_fan> ivan__: if you're using dhcp, and i'm assuming this is on a home network, check your home router dhcp server settings, and set it to any of the ones we sent. if this is on some sort of corporate or hotspot then you need to check with tech support.
[21:29] <beandog> ivan__: wait, what?  did you get it working with those nameservers?
[21:29] <Phosphate> bluesnow: I've done that on 3 or 4 machines with no problems so far, but ymmv.
[21:30] <avid_fan> sudipta: i feel for you. wish i had a solution.
[21:30] <ivan__> beandog: yeah, it's working with <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:30] <beandog> ivan__: okay do this, add that line to /etc/resolv.conf.head
[21:30] <sudipta> avid_fan:should i report a bug
[21:30] <sudipta> ?
[21:30] <bluesnow> Phosphate: Thanks. Also, when I tell my update manager to check for updates, it's not showing me anything (I'm still on 11.04)
[21:30] <beandog> ivan__: it'll get added to resolv.conf each boot before the DHCP nameservers
[21:30] <beandog> ivan__: so it'll always use those first
[21:30] <ivan__> beandog: it seems like a great solution
[21:31] <ivan__> beandog: thanks man, I'll try right away ;)
[21:31] <xangua> bluesnow: if by upgrading 11.04 to 12.04 you mean editing the sources and changing the release codename in those to precice, yes it will break soon or later and it's also not supported here
[21:31] <Phosphate> bluesnow: Try an apt-get update then apt-get upgrade once that gives you no updates I'd think it's safe to do the distro upgrade
[21:32] <avid_fan> ivan__: there is also a way (though i don't know off the top of my head) to configure your dhcp client to ignore any dns servers issued by the server.
[21:32] <bluesnow> xangua: is that the same as using the update manager to upgrade to 12.04? I'm not sure what you mean
[21:32] <Phosphate> bluesnow: do-release-upgrade
[21:32] <avid_fan> ivan__: then you wouldn't need to edit the resolv.conf every time.
[21:32] <xangua> ivan__: easy as pie (just use gksu instead of sudo)  gksu gedit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/setup-static-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[21:32]  * exalt is mad, his system rebels against him, stupid uefi wont work!
[21:33] <ivan__> beandog: your solution is not working
[21:33] <beandog> xangua: I think I like your option better
[21:34] <bluesnow> do-release-upgrade showed "extracting 'precise.tar.gz'
[21:34] <bluesnow> Is it safe to authenticate and upgrade?
[21:34] <beandog> ivan__: sorry, man. :(
[21:34] <beandog> ivan__: what's contents of resolv.conf
[21:34] <beandog> pastebin it
[21:34] <xangua> beandog: you can no longer edit resolv.conf
[21:35] <ivan__> beandog: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:35] <beandog> xangua: really?  that's lame.
[21:35] <Phosphate> bluesnow: If you've done alot of custom stuff to your system you may have problems but it you've been pretty stock you should be ok.
[21:35] <beandog> ivan__: and you made /etc/resolv.conf.head ?
[21:35] <beandog> that should work
[21:35] <beandog> ideally.
[21:35] <bluesnow> Phosphate: ok. Any idea why my update manager was not showing me the upgrade?
[21:36] <avid_fan> beandog: really? i've never heard/read about that. that's ingenious.
[21:36] <beandog> avid_fan: resolv.conf.tail as well, to put it on the end
[21:36] <ivan__> beandog: yes, I made resolv.conf.head
[21:36] <beandog> well, poop.
[21:36] <beandog> sorry, man.
[21:36] <avid_fan> beandog: awesome. i'm definitely going to remember that
[21:36] <Phosphate> bluesnow: Sorry not sure why. You ran an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade? Did that show anything?
[21:37] <donj_> admin u still here? o.o
[21:37] <bluesnow> Phosphate: Never mind, removed it from launcher and re-added it and it's working now. Thanks.
[21:37] <ivan__> I'm trying with dhcpclient.conf now
[21:37] <ivan__> if that works then ok, else i'll try with resolve.conf.tail
[21:38] <donj_> can anyone help with setting a program to load at startup?
[21:38] <beandog> ivan__: resolv, not resolve ... just checking. :)
[21:38] <Phosphate> bluesnow: Cheers and good luck
[21:38] <ivan__> beandog: yes, resolv.. sorry :)
[21:39] <beandog> ivan__: heh, okay
[21:39] <PsyberS_> can i configure my settings so the screen doesnt turn off at all, but only while on AC? Then when on battery it turns off after X mins? Im on Precise
[21:40] <ivan__> beandog: is this ubuntu bug or my configuration is problem ?!
[21:40] <beandog> ivan__: uh, not sure .. I'm really surprised the resolv.conf override didn't work
[21:41] <donj_> can anyone help with setting up a program to load at startup in Lubuntu?
[21:41] <ivan__> beandog: i created /etc/resolv.conf.tail and reboot, but it still doesnt work
[21:41] <avid_fan> ivan__: are you definitely using dhcp?
[21:41] <xangua> donj_: open the dash, type: startup
[21:41] <jagginess> donj_, global wide, probably /etc/xdg/autostart
[21:41] <beandog> ivan__: what's in those files?
[21:41] <KeyLimePi> It seems the stereo rendering on my video card went out on me some time ago. No idea how to get it back.  Anyone know if there is a stereo3d library which I might need to update/add?
[21:42] <xangua> ooh lubuntu...didn't read that part
[21:42] <ivan__> beandog: I just added "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" (without " )
[21:42] <beandog> ivan__: hmm.  weird.
[21:42] <ivan__> beandog: it didn't work with dhcpclient.conf file
[21:43] <beandog> wtc
[21:43] <beandog> ivan__: are you using network manager
[21:43] <donj_> I just drop the program in the folder or something?
[21:44] <ivan__> beandog: no
[21:44] <avid_fan> ivan__: then how did you configure the interface? command line?
[21:44] <ivan__> avid_fan: yes
[21:45] <beandog> ivan__: well I give up
[21:45] <beandog> I mean if you really wanted to you could write a startup script that overwrites it anyway
[21:45] <donj_> After navigating to /etc/xdg/autostart in Lubuntu do I drop a shortcut of the program I want to load at startup inside the folder or is there something else?
[21:45] <beandog> or heck, just make the file immutable
[21:46] <avid_fan> ivan__: can you paste the contents of /etc/network/interfaces into paste.ubuntu.com?
[21:46] <ivan__> avid_fan: just a few seconds
[21:47] <avid_fan> ivan__: sure
[21:47] <ivan__> avid_fan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/994962/
[21:48] <avid_fan> ivan__: that's it? it only has conf info for your loopback interface
[21:48] <Untouchab1e> Hi all! I have installed 12.04 on three separate machines now, and I get the same issues every time. After booting up, I do a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to get up to-date, then after a reboot things starts misbehaving.. The top menu bar stops responding, windows cant be moved or manipulated..
[21:48] <ivan__> avid_fan: that's all there is
[21:48] <Untouchab1e> the launcher wont open, buttons wont react to my mouse clicks, etc..
[21:48] <Untouchab1e> has anyone else had any similar issues?
[21:48] <pfifo> !pin
[21:49] <Untouchab1e> I must be doing something wrong, but Ive been using Ubuntu for half a decade, and Have not been stuck like this before...
[21:50] <Notimik> is it possible to allways get the gcc error messages in english disregarding of locale in other programs?
[21:50] <avid_fan> ivan__: wow, i'm at a loss. i'd guess that you are using Network Manager, but i'm not very familiar with NM. you should have an entry for your ethernet/wifi in there to define its address, subnet, and gateway but it's missing.
[21:51] <sunitasethi> hi
[21:51] <jagginess> Untouchab1e, is the video card all the same on the 3 machines?
[21:51] <Untouchab1e> jagginess: nope
[21:51] <donj_> Can anyone help with settings a program to load at startup on Lubuntu?
[21:51] <avid_fan> ivan__: can you post the results of the command "ifconfig -a" into paste.ubuntu.com
[21:51] <sunitasethi> does anyone know how to get yahoomail on ubuntu??
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Notimik: LC_ALL=C gcc /path/to/file.c
[21:51] <beandog> Notimik: are you running it manually?
[21:51] <beandog> yah, what Jordan_U said
[21:51] <ivan__> avid_fan: just a second
[21:51] <donj_> Can anyone help with setting up a program to load at startup on Lubuntu?*
[21:51] <Notimik> beandog, nope thru cmake
[21:51] <avid_fan> ivan__: sure
[21:52] <Untouchab1e> Nvidia GTX 285, some integrated Intel stuff, an AMD Card... very few similarities between the three systems
[21:52] <Notimik> Jordan_U, kind of a pain to do so constantly :(
[21:52] <jagginess> donj_, did you look at what I told you about?
[21:52] <donj_> I navigated to the folder
[21:52] <donj_> that was the end of ur instructions
[21:53] <jagginess> Untouchab1e, you using a menu-bar? i thought unity is the default..
[21:53] <jagginess> Untouchab1e, apt-get install gnome-shell
[21:53] <donj_> jagginess, :(
[21:53] <Untouchab1e> by the "menu-bar" I am referring to the top bar on the screen when using Unity.. However, Ive quickly switched to Gnome shell, and I get the samme issues there
[21:54] <Untouchab1e> jagginess: gnome-shell was installed instantly .)
[21:54] <Untouchab1e> so there must be some underlying problem.. whats killing me is that seemingly no one else is having the problem
[21:54] <pfifo> well looks like im going back to 10.04
[21:55] <donj_> looks like im going back to windows ._.
[21:55] <avid_fan> donj_: Blasphemy. :-)
[21:56] <jagginess> donj_, maybe you should go back to garbage after cleaing the windows :)
[21:56] <michael_> I have dual boot but Ubuntu is making use Windows less and less
[21:56] <naxil> hello
[21:56] <jagginess> michael_,  I like you.
[21:56] <avid_fan> michael_: as well you should.
[21:57] <naxil> i install moonlight but firefox say to me again "install moonlight"
[21:57] <juicebox> bluetooth support in ubuntu 12.04 sux
[21:57] <michael_> I don't bluetooth but think my networking with an existing windows networking may be a challenge
[21:58] <donj_> I like garbage.. I dont have to spend hours and hours trying to figure out how to get it to autologin or run simple startup programs or set static ip
[21:58] <hex20dec> מה קורה אנשים??
[21:58] <juicebox> stuff that use to work fine (motorola s305 headphones, wiimote) does not work anymore.  actually causes the system to crash (kernal panic).
[21:58] <juicebox> hex20dec, shalom
[21:58] <avid_fan> donj_: i don't know much about startup up programs, but setting a static ip is typically pretty easy.
[21:59] <jagginess> avid_fan, not if someone's brain is static.
[21:59] <michael_> why set up a static, is it for servers?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> !il | hex20dec
[21:59] <juicebox> avid_fan, I do that via terminal or nm-connection-editor
[21:59] <avid_fan> jagginess: lol
[21:59] <hex20dec> juicebox: It is a nice way to find people that speak Hebrew.
[21:59] <michael_> neat
[21:59] <hex20dec> Jordan_u: Lol, why so mean?
[21:59] <juicebox> hex20dec, sure.
[21:59] <michael_> works for chinese as well?
[22:00] <avid_fan> juicebox: i don't remember the exact steps with NM (and I'm not on my ubuntu box right now to get them), but via command line you simply edit /etc/network/interfaces
[22:00] <donj_> avid_fan, it should be easy but for some reason the network connections program is bugged and I dont feel like learning how to use linux's command line to set it up ._.
[22:00] <juicebox> avid_fan, yes
[22:00] <michael_> I was told to use Samba for networking..
[22:00] <votproductions> RTFM
[22:00] <whiskers75> i am having random freezes on a Toshiba portege 4000 - can anyone help?
[22:00] <Jordan_U> hex20dec: I don't consider it mean to point someone speaking hebrew to a channel where they can get hebrew speaking support.
[22:01] <michael_> agrees with Jordan
[22:01] <hex20dec> Jordan_U I simply wanted to see who speaks Hebrew here.
[22:01] <juicebox> static IP+ubuntu 10.04 http://ur1.ca/99lkm using nm
[22:01] <john89> Hi all, my indicators are showing *below* my programs.  Ie, if I click the volume icon in 12.04, I can't see the slider because it's below running applications
[22:01] <avid_fan> juicebox: the man page for /etc/network/interfaces is pretty good. you comprise "stanzas" defining each interface. the stanzas include ip address, net mask and gateway. done
[22:02] <john89> It's very annoying
[22:02] <votproductions> It must be
[22:02] <kendfinger> What is the launchpad channel?
[22:02] <Jordan_U> hex20dec: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, not taking polls on who speaks a certain language.
[22:02] <juicebox> static IP using nm-connection editor ubuntu 12.04 http://ur1.ca/99lku
[22:03] <hex20dec> Jordan_U: I know, but did it harm anyone?
[22:03] <hex20dec> I don't think so.
[22:03] <hex20dec> Now smile and walk away.
[22:03] <avid_fan> juicebox: dats it bro
[22:03] <avid_fan> juicebox: or sista
[22:03] <avid_fan> lol
[22:03] <hex20dec> avid_fan: Ha
[22:03] <hex20dec> =P
[22:03] <juicebox> I hate ubuntu 12.04 atm
[22:04] <ivan__> avid_fan: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghh.. it was my mistake.. I forgot that i set IPv4 settings to DHCP (Addresses only)
[22:04] <juicebox> I want my gnome2
[22:04] <juicebox> and my bluetooth motorola s305 head phones to work.
[22:04] <exalt> must i set the device for boot loader installation on my efi partition ?
[22:04] <votproductions> juicebox: Install fallback
[22:04] <avid_fan> ivan__: seriously no offense meant, but you know it only does what you tell it to do (mostly). :-)
[22:04] <juicebox> votproductions, thats it?
[22:04] <juicebox> just fallback?
[22:05] <juicebox> been on 10.04 for years now, new to 12.04
[22:05] <juicebox> votproductions, what is the package called?
[22:05] <avid_fan> ivan__: to quote the mighty HAL 9000 "It can only be attributable to human error."
[22:05] <john89> Hi all, my indicators are showing *below* my programs.  Ie, if I click the volume icon in 12.04, I can't see the slider because it's below running applications
[22:06] <votproductions> juicebox: I think it's something like gnome-fallback
[22:06] <ivan__> avid_fan: yeah.. i totally forgot that I changed that yesterday..
[22:06] <juicebox> votproductions, this is different than gnome-panel?
[22:06] <ivan__> avid_fan: i hope now there will be no more problems..
[22:06] <avid_fan> ivan__: good luck
[22:07] <ivan__> avid_fan: thanks man.. if i ever come to your country i have to buy you a bear :)
[22:07] <votproductions> juicebox: gnome-session-fallback
[22:07] <ivan__> *beer
[22:07] <avid_fan> ivan__: i was worried there for a minute
[22:07] <avid_fan> lol
[22:07] <votproductions> juicebox: It is, fallback has Unity bits in (no Unity itself) and gnome-panel is GNOME 2 basically
[22:07] <ivan__> avid_fan: ahhaha ;) honest mistake
[22:08] <avid_fan> ivan__: trudat
[22:08] <juicebox> votproductions, yeah, basically
[22:08] <juicebox> then there is gnome-shell
[22:08] <juicebox> which is a crack baby from unity and gnome
[22:08] <votproductions> juicebox: Gnome-shell is the worst thing ever
[22:09] <juicebox> yeah...   Im so unhappy with ubuntu 12.04 gui.
[22:10] <ivan__> avid_fan: thanks again man, i'm off
[22:12] <smithw> Hi there, I'm having trouble with my wireless card (Realtek RTL8723AE) on 12.04 (64-bit). It shows up as "unclaimed" on lshw. What are my options?
[22:13] <c0deMaster> how to use OpenDNS in Ubuntu 12.04 ??
[22:15] <Krambiorix> in a crontab i want to grep a log file for things that happened today, how can i do that? The date format is like [Sat May 19 00:08:43 2012]
[22:15] <Multbrelch> smithw, can do lspci and look for network controller
[22:15] <Multbrelch> post the message
[22:15] <avid_fan> c0deMaster static ip or dhcp? using network manager?
[22:16] <vlt> Hello. I installed ubuntu-desktop and logged in. Now I see this: http://suez.musketa.de/u01.png -- Any idea why there’s no clock or logout button? What pkg could be missing here?
[22:16] <c0deMaster> avid_fan, yes using the network manager and dhcp
[22:16] <avid_fan> Krambiorix: you might want to look at logwatch. i think it does just that, or can be configured to.
[22:16] <smithw> Multbrelch, I'd guess it's this one: 03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8723
[22:17] <xangua> c0deMaster: opendns servers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> ; just use gksu instead of sudo if you use gedit http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/setup-static-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[22:17] <todon_> Krambiorix: `grep 'Sat May 19 ' /path/to/logfile` should do it.
[22:17] <Krambiorix> todon_, it should work for all days :-)
[22:17] <avid_fan> c0deMaster: sorry i'm not that familiar with network manage. but i know there is a way to set it to ignore dns servers issued by dhcp and then add the ones from opendns
[22:18] <Krambiorix> todon_, something like '%D %M %d......?
[22:18] <avid_fan> c0deMaster: just don't know the exact steps
[22:19] <avid_fan> c0deMaster: xangua onto something there
[22:19] <c0deMaster> Xander, Ubuntu 12.04 uses reslovconf and dnsmasq , bydefault there is nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> in the resovl.conf and if i removed it and added opendns nothing resolves , and this file is overwritten every time your connect to the network
[22:19] <smithw> Multbrelch, I have the windows drivers for it and I have already installed ndiswrapper, but I'm unsure on which driver version to install (my system is 64-bit, but I've heard horror stories about 64-bit drivers on ndiswrapper).
[22:19] <Xander> c0deMaster, you mean avid_fan ?
[22:19] <smithw> Also, if there was a native solution, it'd be nicer
[22:20] <Multbrelch> smithw, I'm searching the internet : no result so far
[22:20] <c0deMaster> Xander, sorry man
[22:20] <avid_fan> Xander: i think c0deMaster actually meant xangua
[22:20] <majuscule> Is there any way to use `strace` or something similar to observe what environment variables a process uses?
[22:20] <avid_fan> lol
[22:20] <Multbrelch> smithw, hmm ndiswrapper worked a couple of times for me
[22:20] <Xander> c0deMaster, no worries man. :) Just making sure the message went to the right person
[22:20] <Krambiorix> avid_fan, logwatch is too much for what i want
[22:20] <Xander> avid_fan, okay, sorry ;)
[22:20] <xangua> ¿¿
[22:20] <Multbrelch> smithw, I would just try, do a backup of your system before
[22:21] <c0deMaster> xangua, i'll try the link you sent
[22:21] <rumaging_pinz> I used Startup Disk Creator to install 12.04 to a USB stick, chose the option to make the install persistent, but when I try to run "update-grub" i get an error: "grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /(is /dev mounted?)"
[22:21] <smithw> Multbrelch, no need, it's a fresh install on a new laptop :) thanks for your help!
[22:21] <rumaging_pinz> anyone know what that means?
[22:21] <Multbrelch> smithw, just try out <= is best ;-)
[22:22] <aguitel> any app like startupmanager in 12.04 ?
[22:22]  * votproductions is leaving
[22:22] <vlt> Which package do I need to install to get a clock and a logout button in the upper right corner?
[22:22] <smw> If I install 12.04 on a computer with 11.04, will grub find and add entries for 11.04?
[22:22] <ratcheer> c0deMaster: Does your LAN use a router? If so, just set the OpenDNS addresses for DNS on the router.
[22:23] <todon_> Krambiorix: Ah, I see. In that case:
[22:23] <vlt> smw: Most likely yes.
[22:23] <todon_> Krambiorix: grep `date '+%a %b %d'` /path/to/logfile
[22:23] <todon_> Krambiorix: Check out the date manpage for more info :)
[22:23] <c0deMaster> ratcheer, i want to make it working everywhere not only when I use my router
[22:23] <Multbrelch> smithw, look here, somebody has problems with a similar Realtek device; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1873537
[22:23] <smw> vlt, most likely?
[22:24] <todon_> Krambiorix: Actually, needs quoting, so:
[22:24] <todon_> Krambiorix: grep "`date '+%a %b %d'`" /path/to/logfile
[22:24] <ratcheer> If the router has it, every node on the LAN will use it. Do you sometimes not use your router?
[22:24] <c0deMaster> xangua, I followed the steps in the link  now do i have to re-connect?
[22:24] <c0deMaster> ratcheer, sure
[22:24] <rumaging_pinz> How do I access the grub menu on the 12.04 live cd so i can edit it on the fly at startup?
[22:25] <Krambiorix> todon_ i'll test it, thx!
[22:25] <goddard> I have a toolbar question
[22:25] <MatCat> Hey, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTE, and for some reason my ability to change background images has stopped working, the settings program runs fine, but the background does not change, any ideas?
[22:25] <vlt> smw: Usually it should do. Disk encryption, for example, could be a problem …
[22:25] <xangua> c0deMaster: in the network icon/indicator you have an option to disconect
[22:25] <smw> rumaging_pinz, the live cd does not use grub. you can however edit options by pressing f1 for help
[22:25] <goddard> Why is it you can click an icon on the dock to unminimize it but you can't click that same icon to minimize it?
[22:25] <naxil> exuse me.. is possible see silverlight on ubuntu 10.04?
[22:25] <smw> rumaging_pinz, before clicking "install" or whatever when it asks you the language
[22:26] <avledovskiy> У-у, ёж тыж. Все по-ненашему пишут. Hello from Russia!
[22:26] <ratcheer> c0deMaster: Sorry, I am thinking in terms of desktops. I guess you have a notebook that you take to different locations.
[22:26] <smw> vlt, ok, it will unless there is something horribly wrong. Got you :-)
[22:26] <rumaging_pinz> ok, thanks smw.
[22:27] <lionofgod> Hello Im trying to setup dual monitors my new monitor gives me this error http://pastebin.com/BnB9bntW, i can drag my mouse onto old monitor but it appears as an x and the monitor is blank
[22:27] <Multbrelch> naxil, look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/net-install-moonlight.html
[22:27] <Multbrelch> naxil, you need moonlight
[22:28] <lionofgod> The ubuntu display center does not detect old monitor, but Nvidia display center does
[22:28] <xangua> saw something about it on webupd8 blog goddard http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-get-dodge-windows-and-minimize.html
[22:28] <donj_> What is linux's ipconfig equivalent?
[22:28] <melow01> ifconfig
[22:28] <donj_> innovative
[22:28] <ratcheer> donj_: ip
[22:28] <melow01> donj_, ipconfig = ifconfig
[22:28] <avid_fan> donj_: or ip
[22:29] <avid_fan> donj_: ip a
[22:29] <ratcheer> Yeah, I thought ifconfig was being deprecated in favor of ip.
[22:29] <donj_> i got it avid thx o.o
[22:29] <Krambiorix> todon_, shouldn't it be grep "`date +'%a %b %d'`" /path/to/logfile  ?
[22:29] <avid_fan> donj_: will give you a list of addresses, ip r will give you a list of routes
[22:29] <Krambiorix> the + outside the ''
[22:29] <melow01> ratcheer, opps... I didn't know that
[22:30] <lionofgod> hello can someone please help me setup dual monitors on ubuntu, My old monitor is blank my new monitor gives this error http://pastebin.com/BnB9bntW
[22:30] <lionofgod> Ubuntu display center does not detect old monitor but nvidia settings does
[22:30] <lionofgod> my mouse shows up as an x on other monitor
[22:30] <lionofgod> Please help :D
[22:31] <lionofgod> Do you need model of monitors?
[22:31] <todon_> Krambiorix: Yes, also spotted that and corrected in my last response
[22:31] <ratcheer> melow01: I think so. But I saw it somewhere a year or so ago, so I started learning the ip command. It is complex as h***
[22:31] <Krambiorix> todon_, you said grep "`date '+%a %b %d'`" tmp_error_logs.log -> crontab says there 's an error in that line
[22:31] <Multbrelch> lionofgod, if you have a nvidea GPU then you have to use the nvidea control panel
[22:31] <melow01> ratcheer, oh ok... well I'm not any linux pro by any means so I don't know whats current or not
[22:32] <lionofgod> Okay, but I have enabled both screens yet my other screen is blank and first screen gives error everytime i login http://pastebin.com/BnB9bntW
[22:33] <lionofgod> I get this error when changing monitor to twin view Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'DFP-0: 1600x900 @1600x900 +0+0, CRT-1: nvidia-auto-select @1280x1024 +1600+0' (Mode 2880x1024, id: 137) on X screen 0.
[22:33] <Multbrelch> lionofgod, hmm if you play with the reolution ?
[22:33] <Multbrelch> resolution
[22:34] <lionofgod> resoloution for first is supposed to be 1600 by 900
[22:34] <Multbrelch> lionofgod, I use disper, you can install it via sudo apt-get install disper
[22:34] <Multbrelch> disper controlls nvidia GPUs
[22:35] <lionofgod> k am installing
[22:35] <Multbrelch> try
[22:35] <lionofgod> hopefully it works : )
[22:35] <todon_> Krambiorix: If you're placing that command in a crontab you'll need to escape the %
[22:35] <Multbrelch> here is the webpage, lionofgod : http://willem.engen.nl/projects/disper/
[22:35] <goddard> xangua: COOL any idea why it hasn't been packaged ?
[22:35] <lionofgod> 0.o cli
[22:36] <Multbrelch> lionofgod, disper is, however, a command line tool
[22:36] <goddard> why are some things only a PPA and not in the repos?
[22:36] <Krambiorix> todon_, i have this, still err   grep "`date '+%%a %%b %%d'`" file.log
[22:36] <todon_> Krambiorix: Replace %% with \%
[22:37] <xangua> goddard: because is a Third party app
[22:37] <xangua> i think that answer your both previous questions
[22:37] <Krambiorix> todon_, still error: grep "`date '+\%a \%b \%d'`"  :-s
[22:38] <Multbrelch> lionofgod, for VGA I use: disper --displays=CRT-0 -S
[22:38] <goddard> xangua: ya but a lot of applications are third party
[22:38] <todon_> Krambiorix: Might be easier to put the command in a shell script
[22:38] <lionofgod> Okay...
[22:38] <todon_> Krambiorix: And checkout `man 5 crontab`
[22:38] <Multbrelch> lionofgod, could you install it?
[22:38] <lionofgod> isntalled
[22:38] <Multbrelch> k
[22:38] <lionofgod> am looking at its list of commands
[22:39] <Multbrelch> lionofgod, with disper -l you get a list of resolution for each screen
[22:39] <lorecaster> My gnome3 12.04 install won't recognize the sound through HDMI. Ideas?
[22:39] <lorecaster> the monitor speakers don't even show up in sound-settings
[22:39] <lorecaster> I already have proprietary NVIDIA 8300 drivers installed
[22:39] <Multbrelch> lorecaster, you need to activate it in the audio prefs, somewhere there
[22:40] <lorecaster> having trouble finding where, exactly.
[22:40] <Multbrelch> well
[22:40] <Krambiorix> todon_, if i put it in a shell script -> should i escape too?
[22:41] <todon_> Krambiorix: No need to escape the % characters
[22:41] <Multbrelch> lorecaster, I had once same problem and I think I have solved it via the audio prefs
[22:42] <cellardoor> Can anyone help me with a GRUB crisis? In particular, the application boot-repair.
[22:42] <lorecaster> in the audio preferences (you mean by the sound settings, i assume) it doesn't even recognize the speaker hardware :S
[22:42] <Multbrelch> aha
[22:42] <donj_> Why cant i ping my Windows box by FQDN from lubuntu but I can ping the linux box from windows :(
[22:43] <donj_> I tried single label and fqdn and neither worked. but i can ping by ip so there is connectivity
[22:43] <Jihui_Choi> hi, all. when I do "find . -name "*.php" | xargs grep something", it said "permission denied". How can I skip these files which I don't have permission to access and keep searching?
[22:43] <lionofgod> Hey, I tried that command modified for my VGA screen and it messed it up
[22:44] <Multbrelch> lionofgod, really!
[22:44] <lionofgod> nvidia detects my screens
[22:44] <lionofgod> but
[22:44] <Multbrelch> ...
[22:44] <lionofgod> whenever it take my mouse to other screen it appears as an x
[22:44] <vlt> Jihui_Choi: find has -exec
[22:44] <lionofgod> that screen is blank
[22:44] <Multbrelch> lionofgod, does the screen work?
[22:45] <Multbrelch> under windows for instance
[22:45] <jagginess> donj_, you can ping the linux box by fqdn?
[22:45] <lionofgod> like...one screen works its my new one.. the other one is blank but i can take my cursor on it, although ym cursor appears as an x
[22:45] <Jihui_Choi> vlt: can you explain it more?
[22:45] <lionofgod> and ic ant do anything on that screen cuz its call black
[22:46] <Multbrelch> lionofgod, and in single screen mode, when you use only this screen, what happens?
[22:46] <lionofgod> lemme see
[22:46] <Multbrelch> same?
[22:46] <vlt> Jihui_Choi: `find -type f  -name "*.php" -exec grep something {} +`  The “{}” is the found file.
[22:47] <Lunar_Lander> hi, got Ubuntu 12.04 installed the first day now and the system HANG three times now in like several hours, when it hangs, I can click on anything but nothing happens
[22:47] <Lunar_Lander> I run Firefox, Pidgin and XChat
[22:47] <Lunar_Lander> at the moment
[22:47] <lionofgod> am gonna reboot
[22:47] <donj_> jagginess, yep but cant ping windows from linux using the fqdn
[22:47] <vlt> Jihui_Choi: The “+” behaves like piping to xargs; you can use “\;” instead for grepping each single file.
[22:48] <donj_> jagginess, im not even gonna worry about it since im only using it as a share anyway
[22:48] <jagginess> donj_, what is the fqdn of windows and linux?
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> any idea on that?
[22:48] <Jihui_Choi> thank you, vlt. I'm trying now. :)
[22:49] <israel__> Jihui_Choi:find . -type f -name "*.php" -exec grep word_to_find {} /;
[22:49] <donj_> myname.att.net  linuxname.att.net
[22:49] <goddard> why are some things only a PPA and not in the repos?
[22:49] <Jihui_Choi> vlt: it says there no parameter for exec
[22:50] <OerHeks> goddard, then the PPA would be no use.
[22:50] <Jihui_Choi> vlt: actually missing parameter for -exec
[22:50] <Fat-Thing> can i ask help here regarding virtualbox?
[22:51] <Multbrelch> Fat-Thing, shoot
[22:52] <vlt> Jihui_Choi: I can’t see your command.
[22:52] <Fat-Thing> i'm having a difficult time on how to enable my usb on my vbox i'm on ubuntu 10.04LTS as my host
[22:52] <Fat-Thing> :(
[22:52] <donj_> think u need to start the usb arbritration services on the host
[22:52] <Lunar_Lander> hi, got Ubuntu 12.04 installed the first day now and the system HANG three times now in like several hours, when it hangs, I can click on anything but nothing happens
[22:52] <Lunar_Lander> I run Firefox, Pidgin and XChat
[22:53] <donj_> but i run win7 so idk x.x
[22:53] <Jihui_Choi> vlt: I did find . -type f -name "*.php" -exec grep words {} /;	 then error message appeared "there's missing parameter."
[22:53] <israel__> Fat-Thing: just go to devices->usb on the windosvirtual box menu
[22:54] <vlt> Jihui_Choi: Try to find the difference between what I wrote and what you typed ;-)
[22:54] <Multbrelch> Lunar_Lander, I had a look into my crystal ball but I saw only fog, no info about your hardware
[22:54] <Jihui_Choi> vlt: not at all cuz I just copied and pasted your command.
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 500 GB Samsung HDD, RaLink WLAN card, ATI Radeon X1150
[22:55] <vlt> Jihui_Choi: And then you replaced the “+”.
[22:55] <Multbrelch> wot happens in detail? Lunar_Lander
[22:55] <Jihui_Choi> vlt: oh sorry, that command came from israel__ ;)
[22:55] <Lunar_Lander> it is like that the screen just freezes and I can still move the mouse but when I click, nothing happens and pressing any keys doesn't work either
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> only thing that helped was cutting the power
[22:56] <Gohalien> Hi, I was looking for a program to embed subtitles into a .mp4 movie file, the catch is the movie is a half sbs (3d), there is a program for windows called 3d subtitler, there is anyone like it for linux ?
[22:56] <e2b04836> Lunar_Lander: have you checked the logs?
[22:56] <Lunar_Lander> where can i find them?
[22:56] <Jihui_Choi> vlt: sorry for bothering. your command works well
[22:56] <Dead_AssClown> new user to ubuntu
[22:56] <Dead_AssClown> how do you delete windows os
[22:57] <donj_> LOL
[22:57] <Multbrelch> haha
[22:57] <Lunar_Lander> xD!
[22:57] <e2b04836> Lunar_Lander: /var/log/messages should have some info
[22:57] <Lunar_Lander> ah there is no messages folder in /var/log
[22:57] <e2b04836> messages is a file
[22:58] <Lunar_Lander> that isn't there either
[22:58] <Lunar_Lander> I am on 12.04 is that different?
[22:58] <Dead_AssClown> idk why i even ask...gooing to google
[22:58] <Dead_AssClown> lol
[22:58] <vlt> Dead_AssClown: You could remove all files from the windows partition or completely overwrite it with a new file system or several other ways to get rid of it.
[22:58] <e2b04836> Lunar_Lander: what does 'cat /var/log/messages' return?
[22:58] <Lunar_Lander> I got stuff like kern.log or so
[22:58] <donj_> Dead_AssClown, format the partition that says Ubuntu on it <.<
[22:59] <Multbrelch> Dead_AssClown, a good method to delete all is by using the dd command in the shell
[22:59] <Lunar_Lander> when I put that into the terminal it just says "file not found"
[22:59] <{C}ronos> unity SUCKS
[22:59] <e2b04836> hmm
[22:59] <Multbrelch> not really
[22:59] <belli> unity works good now...
[22:59] <belli> hi all
[22:59] <e2b04836> what about syslog
[22:59] <Lunar_Lander> is that a command?
[22:59] <vlt> {C}ronos: What’s the problem?
[22:59] <belli> nvidia sucks...
[23:00] <e2b04836> no it should be a file in /var/log
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> sorry for the questions but I began with ubuntu at 11.10
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> syslog is there
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander> open with texteditor?
[23:00] <{C}ronos> vlt, just dont like it lol
[23:00] <e2b04836> have a look in there for messages around the time of the hangs
[23:00] <{C}ronos> not my thing
[23:00] <e2b04836> yes its a text file
[23:00] <vlt> {C}ronos: Erm … ok.
[23:01] <goddard> OerHeks: well still why not just package it why make it a PPA at all?
[23:01] <belli> ok,boys,have expirience with compiz+xubuntu 1204?
[23:01] <belli> will work?
[23:01] <mysteriousdarren> belli: yes
[23:02] <OerHeks> goddard, ppa is personal, some for testing, some for special needs
[23:02] <jeeves_moss> is there a channel for IBM servers?
[23:02] <Multbrelch> k, guys, need to sleep, cu all
[23:02] <belli> tnx
[23:02] <venenoverde> ppa?
[23:02] <Lunar_Lander> e2b04836, searching now
[23:02] <vlt> goddard: You can make a PPA accessable for others, too.
[23:02] <venenoverde> the meaning
[23:02] <yeats> !alis | jeeves_moss
[23:03] <jeeves_moss> yeats, thanks,
[23:03] <vlt> goddard: If you were only packaging it there were no easy way for others to use it.
[23:04] <sat23pr> Hellow I need Help I am a new linux user
[23:04] <Fat-Thing> israel__,  same not working :(
[23:04] <vlt> !ask | sat23pr
[23:04] <Lunar_Lander> e2b04836, I can't really find errors
[23:04] <Lunar_Lander> I can find an error that is recurring and is
[23:04] <Lunar_Lander> May 18 23:54:31 gddirac-bra-ket-matrix kernel: [   16.192068] usb 1-8: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[23:05] <israel__> Fat-Thing: are u searching a specific word in files .php?
[23:05] <venenoverde> i want to connect my network with xbox360  but im currently running ubuntu. Is it possible to connect ubuntu with xbox360 on same networ and share files
[23:05] <e2b04836> are there any strange entries immediately before a hang?
[23:06] <f00ki> Got anyone an upstart script for enabling wake on lan?
[23:06] <e2b04836> venenoverde, try mediatomb
[23:07] <f00ki> I tried this: http://pastebin.com/haaq1mNn but it seems that it's not invoked
[23:07] <beandog> what's that program where you can ssh into multiple servers at once and run the same command on all of them
[23:08] <Fat-Thing> israel__,  nope it's about virtualbox on how to enable the usb
[23:08] <lorecaster> still climbing the walls over this HDMI issue. Audio preferences won't even detect the speakers
[23:08] <e2b04836> beandog, pssh?
[23:09] <israel__> Fat-Thing: do you have installed the add ons on your virtual machine?
[23:09] <ceti331_> is nomachine some cloud thing?
[23:09] <Lunar_Lander> e2b04836, I think there is none
[23:09] <Lunar_Lander> when the PC hang at 0:42 there is no entry
[23:09] <Fat-Thing> u mean the extention pack yup israel__
[23:09] <israel__> that one
[23:09] <Lunar_Lander> only at 0:44:44 are a lot of entries that look like that is the startup
[23:10] <israel__> then turn off the VM
[23:10] <Lunar_Lander> as I was back online on 0:45
[23:10] <Lunar_Lander> e2b04836
[23:10] <israel__> then go to config -> usb
[23:10] <e2b04836> yeah thats probably the case
[23:10] <israel__> abd enable usb
[23:10] <e2b04836> i'm not too sure how to proceed, sorry
[23:10] <e2b04836> someone else might have a few ideas
[23:10] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[23:11] <Lunar_Lander> the thing is that when I start the PC, the three lights in the keyboard light up for a long time, up to 5 seconds
[23:11] <Lunar_Lander> and the intel logo is there for a long time too
[23:11] <beandog> e2b04836: that's it, thx
[23:11] <Lunar_Lander> sometimes it helps to go into the BIOS and reload the optimized settings
[23:11] <Lunar_Lander> can there be a problem?
[23:11] <Fat-Thing> israel__,  where's that config --> usb?
[23:12] <belli> xubuntu users with compiz here?
[23:12] <israel__> oracle VM administrator window
[23:12] <e2b04836> Lunar_Lander, it could be
[23:12] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:12] <israel__> Fat-Thing:oracle VM administrator window
[23:12] <Lunar_Lander> otherwise I like 12.04
[23:12] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[23:13] <diffusedhavoc> hi
[23:13] <israel__> hi
[23:13] <belli> how ti start compiz in xubuntu 1204?
[23:13] <Lunar_Lander> I got a stupid question though e2b04836
[23:13] <diffusedhavoc> im new to linux/ubuntuStudio
[23:14] <cheese1756> diffusedhavoc: Ubuntu Studio is way outdated
[23:14] <e2b04836> shoot
[23:14] <Lunar_Lander> when 12.04 is new, why are there about 150 updates to install already?
[23:14] <Fat-Thing> israel__,  done that same no sweat for enabling but my usb ain't detecting the hardware i attached
[23:14] <israel__> Fat-Thing: lspci and pastebin it
[23:14] <diffusedhavoc> whats better/newer than Ubuntu Studio. Im using it for music recording
[23:14] <e2b04836> well some of those will be for extra software like web browsers etc
[23:15] <diffusedhavoc> anyone use Ardour in here?
[23:15] <JoeyJoeJo> I have two USB devices always hooked up. On boot sometimes they will switch between /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1. How can I make one always be USB0 and the other always be USB1?
[23:15] <Krambiorix> can someone take a look at my bash script line ? http://pastebin.com/J6sd1wEF
[23:15] <Fat-Thing> israel__,  here http://paste.ubuntu.com/995093/
[23:16] <e2b04836> if its a clean install there will be quite a few updates to install though thats just the way it is
[23:16] <israel__> Fat-Thing: lsusb now
[23:16] <Lunar_Lander> e2b04836, yeah the update to Firefox 12 was among them
[23:17] <Fat-Thing> israel__,  here http://paste.ubuntu.com/995095/
[23:17] <donj_> anyone know how to setup the auto login process for Lubuntu?
[23:17] <israel__> Fat-Thing: ok wait
[23:17] <lionofgod> Hello, am trying to setup dual monitors, when i use twinview both work but it tries to display 1 big screen, on seperate x screen mode only 1 screen works
[23:18] <Lunar_Lander> e2b04836, I am watching a stream on livestream.com and just now the stream started to stop momentarily and the CPU fan revved up
[23:18] <lionofgod> I want to sue seperate x screen mode but when using that mode I can go onto toehr screen but my cursor is displayed as an x
[23:18] <Lunar_Lander> that stopping happend earlier too
[23:18] <lionofgod> Please help me : )
[23:18] <e2b04836> Krambiorix, try cat /var/www/web12/web/tmp_error_logs.log |grep "`date '+%a %b %d'`" > /var/www/web12/web/error_log`date +%F`
[23:18] <Lunar_Lander> e2b04836, syslog now says May 19 01:18:02 gddirac-bra-ket-matrix rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="5.8.6" x-pid="608" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] rsyslogd was HUPed
[23:18] <e2b04836> yeah thats normal
[23:18] <caesar_> i've been experiencing a laggy system lately.. is there anything on ubuntu that is a known resource hog??
[23:19] <e2b04836> so is the lagging on livestream
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> now it is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/995096/
[23:19] <e2b04836> flash is known to play badly with linux
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[23:19] <e2b04836> you can try google chrome it has slightly better flash performance
[23:19] <Lunar_Lander> ah OK
[23:20] <caesar_> it lags even when im not using flash
[23:20] <j0hnsm1th> caesar_, in console 'top' --look and see
[23:20] <Krambiorix> e2b04836, that works, thx!!
[23:20] <israel__> Fat-Thing: mm weird, it is detected, maybe the problem is virtualbox, do you need to copy files or something ?
[23:20] <e2b04836> Krambiorix, no problem
[23:20] <Lunar_Lander> Chromium in Software Center?
[23:20] <goddard> what is the network manager applet name for 12.04?
[23:20] <goddard> im trying to find the package
[23:21] <e2b04836> Lunar_Lander, http://google.com/chrome
[23:21] <BlouBlou> Lunar_Lamp: chromium != chrome, so yes, it is
[23:21] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:21] <caesar_> j0hnsm1th: what do you mean.. i'm new to linux
[23:21] <Lunar_Lander> is it better to only install stuff in the softwarecenter?
[23:21] <iceroot> Lunar_Lander: yes, when possible try only to use software from the ubuntu repos
[23:21] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[23:21] <j0hnsm1th> caesar_, try applications->systemtools->system monitor and see which processes are using the most cpu/ram
[23:22] <BlouBlou> if it's supported by canonical, yes, you'll get security updates
[23:22] <Lunar_Lander> is there any chance that TeamSpeak 3 will be put into the center one day?
[23:22] <Lunar_Lander> and Arduino 1.0 instead of 0.22?
[23:22] <Fat-Thing> israel__,  i got dual os and my win7 corrupted ... the only thing i got win7 is for magic jack and now im working out to get magic jack works in my ubuntu distro or in vbox
[23:22] <OerHeks> goddard install synaptic for detail view of installed software
[23:22] <caesar_> j0hnsm1th: i'm on 10.04 and dont have that option in system... can i download it?
[23:23] <diffusedhavoc> Can anyone help me get Ardour setup to work with an Echo Layla?
[23:23] <j0hnsm1th> caesar_, Ubuntu 10.04: System>Administration>System Monitor
[23:24] <Lunar_Lander> and is Skype OK?
[23:24] <Lunar_Lander> as it is in that "Partner" repository
[23:24] <j0hnsm1th> Lunar_Lander, my skype is terrible on 12.04
[23:24] <Lunar_Lander> yeah I had Skype active as well earlier
[23:24] <Lunar_Lander> worked OK
[23:24] <j0hnsm1th> Lunar_Lander, worked ok on 10.04
[23:24] <Lunar_Lander> yea it worked on 11.10 here too
[23:24] <Lunar_Lander> earlier there was a friend on and she dropped out serveral times
[23:24] <Lunar_Lander> and then I asked if her connection is bad
[23:25] <ZenGuy311> is there a rss app that will import all .rss links in a textfile for ubuntu?
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> and she said "no, my connection is OK"
[23:25] <caesar_> j0hnsm1th: everything says zero except: compiz says 2 and system monitor says 8
[23:25] <j0hnsm1th> Lunar_Lander, 12.04 my contact list hasnt populated properly yet and contacts dont show as online constantly
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok
[23:25] <j0hnsm1th> caesar_, is your system sluggish now?
[23:25] <donj_> anyone know how to setup the auto login process for Lubuntu?
[23:25] <vlt> Hello. How can I define what icons are shown in the Unity launcher? Is there a cfg file?
[23:25] <j0hnsm1th> Lunar_Lander, but i mainly use skype on my SGS2 tho :)
[23:25] <e2b04836> !patience |donj_
[23:25] <Lunar_Lander> SGS2?
[23:26] <j0hnsm1th> Lunar_Lander, samsung galaxy s2
[23:26] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[23:26] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[23:26] <caesar_> j0hnsm1th: not right this second.. but it does happen frequently enough for me to ask here
[23:26] <israel__> Fat-Thing: are u trying to make a call?
[23:26] <donj_> Anyone know how to setup the auto login process for Lubuntu? Stupid bot ._.
[23:26] <caesar_> all i have is a handful of apps installed and compiz
[23:26] <j0hnsm1th> caesar_, ok well next time its sluggish check that system monitor and see whats hogging all the resources
[23:26] <e2b04836> caesar_, keep a terminal open with 'top' running and when the system is sluggish read the output
[23:26] <Drecondius> Hello :D
[23:26] <e2b04836> hello
[23:27] <Drecondius> Is there anyone in here that has an AMD-FX series processor that has sucessfully installed 12.04 LTS?
[23:27] <caesar_> well 'top' shows completely different stats.. says root is taking 20
[23:28] <Fat-Thing> yup with my mom ... she's in texas now and here at the land of war! philippines mindanao! LOL
[23:28] <trism> vlt: the launcher just points to .desktop files, the ones locked to the launcher are specified in gsettings: gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites;
[23:28] <vlt> trism: Thank you.
[23:29] <caesar_> didn't really notice the sluggish until i installed vbox
[23:29] <e2b04836> caesar_, i believe you're reading it wrong look at the columns labled "%CPU" and "%MEM"
[23:29] <caesar_> maybe coincidental
[23:29] <j0hnsm1th> caesar_, try 'man top'
[23:29] <caesar_> e2b04836: yea root jumps between 15 and 30 CPU%
[23:29] <e2b04836> what is the name of the command?
[23:30] <Drecondius> Is there anyone in here that has an AMD-FX series processor that has sucessfully installed 12.04 LTS?
[23:30] <caesar_> e2b04836: Xorg
[23:30] <vlt> trism: Ok, the command works. What is gsettings? I mean where are the values stored?
[23:31] <caesar_> real laggy when switching desktops
[23:31] <j0hnsm1th> how can i see what driver my video card is using?
[23:32] <e2b04836> caesar_, do you have your display drivers installed?
[23:32] <vlt> JoeyJoeJo: lspci -k
[23:32] <vlt> j0hnsm1th: ^
[23:32] <caesar_> e2b04836: that might be the issue because i seldom see glitching across my screen
[23:32] <caesar_> real fast horizontal lines
[23:32] <caesar_> flickering
[23:33] <c0deMaster> is possible to use simulated higher screen resolution than the hardware maximum resolution?
[23:33] <e2b04836> caesar_, yeah that could be the issue
[23:33] <caesar_> e2b04836: where can i find the drivers specific for my machine
[23:33] <e2b04836> caesar_, what brand/model of gpu do you have?
[23:33] <e2b04836> j0hnsm1th, sudo lshw
[23:34] <krababbel> c0deMaster: If you set a bigger resolution than your monitor, usually it does panning
[23:34] <Drecondius> Is there anyone in here that has an AMD-FX series processor that has sucessfully installed 12.04 LTS, Mine hangs after detecting the processor.
[23:34] <caesar_> e2b04836: HP Pavilion dv6
[23:34] <Drecondius> !help
[23:34] <caesar_> e2b04836: 1352dx
[23:34] <j0hnsm1th> e2b04836, vlt , thanks didnt look closely enough at lshw
[23:36] <stalkerg> hello all
[23:36] <cba123> I'm trying to run CryptKeeper.  But it won't start.  Even when I try over the terminal, it just sits there.  Any ideas?
[23:37] <stalkerg> need small help, I can't disable move window between workspace
[23:37] <stalkerg> in KDE, Openbox,fluxbox it is simple options but not in Unity
[23:37] <e2b04836> caesar_, your gpu seems to be an intel GMA 4500 you'll have to search around for the appropriate driver
[23:38] <Drecondius> Is there anyone in here that has an AMD-FX series processor that has sucessfully installed 12.04 LTS?
[23:38] <avinash> Hi friends, is there any good xml viewer to use with ubuntu ?
[23:39] <caesar_> e2b04836: sorry got disconnected
[23:39] <caesar_> did you get my model?
 caesar_, your gpu seems to be an intel GMA 4500 you'll have to search around for the appropriate driver
[23:39] <stalkerg> Drecondius: on my FX-8520 (up to 8550) I use Gentoo. Only last gcc can create good perfomance.
[23:40] <e2b04836> you could try running "Additional Drivers" i believe its under administration
[23:40] <stalkerg> aand what about windows between workspace?
[23:40] <Drecondius> stalkerg: I can't get any linux kernel to boot though, it's hanging shortly after proc detection.
[23:40] <nullp0inter> i am having trouble building a script..its using egrep, but not printing anything out http://pastebin.com/5gH58WTz
[23:41] <nullp0inter> anyone know what i am messing up?
[23:41] <stalkerg> Drecondius: acpi=off, noapic
[23:41] <stalkerg> Drecondius: maybe motherboard and BIOS...
[23:41] <Drecondius> and currently Asus, my mobo manufacturer doesn't support linux for FX series procs
[23:41] <avinash> i guess , sorry for the stupid question ... its clean with libre office
[23:41] <e2b04836> avinash: try treeline
[23:42] <Drecondius> stalkerg: latest bios is installed :(
[23:42] <stalkerg> Drecondius: I use MSI and all work good. hm...
[23:42] <stalkerg> Drecondius: UEFI is enabled?
[23:42] <Drecondius> won't boot from uefi either
[23:42] <stalkerg> DeathWolf: try acpi=off and noapic add to boot options.
[23:43] <alexandr0s> hi, i am from greece , i have a problem updating the 12.4 ubuntu. is there anyone there who can give me a tip (forgive me for my english)
[23:43] <stalkerg> What can help me with hell of Unity?
[23:44] <Drecondius> I'll try the acpi=off and noapic and see if that helps
[23:44] <Drecondius> back in a few
[23:44] <stalkerg> alexandr0s: don't worry about language не беспокойся
[23:45] <stalkerg> alexandr0s: whats problem?
[23:45] <vlt> !details | alexandr0s
[23:46] <alexandr0s> ok ok :)
[23:46] <hydrox24> None of my m4a files show up when using MOC (binary is mocp) can anyone help with this issue?
[23:46] <alexandr0s> my ubuntu version 12.04 updates automatic every day
[23:47] <e2b04836> !gr |alexandr0s
[23:48] <alexandr0s> i find the solution ( thanks anyway)
[23:48] <stalkerg> ubottu: maybe you can help me?
[23:48] <foobArrr> I'm replacing a 80GB HDD  (=my system drive) with a 128GB SSD. I'm using an encrypted LVM setup. do I want a fresh install on the new drive? or dd + partition/luks/lvm resize?
[23:48] <stalkerg> ahhh
[23:48] <stalkerg> I love artificial mind
[23:49] <cellardoor> I can't boot into Ubuntu, grub is busted! Help please!
[23:49] <vlt> foobArrr: I personally would use dd or ddrescue, then resize the devices from outside to inside.
[23:51] <foobArrr> !grub | cellardoor
[23:51] <stalkerg> cellardoor: grubbusters!
[23:51] <cellardoor> Thanks.
[23:52] <stalkerg> who know hack things about unity?
[23:53] <hydrox24> stalkerg: what do you want to do ?
[23:53] <israel__> sudo update-grub2
[23:53] <foobArrr> vlt: I usually would too, but I'm unsure if this is a good idea on a SSD. I have no idea about partition alignment. the installer handles that automatically, iirc.
[23:53] <Dead_AssClown> wat does the program 'yum' do
[23:53] <stalkerg> hydrox24: need disable move windows between workspaces
[23:54] <stalkerg> need set strict workspace border :)
[23:55] <foobArrr> Dead_AssClown: yum is the package manager on many rpm-based distributions
[23:55] <stalkerg> hydrox24:  you understand (sorry about language)?
[23:55] <Drecondius> I never should have dumped my old athlon x2
[23:55] <swc> I would read up on the ssd. The new ones are supposed to read/write wear evenly automatically.
[23:55] <krababbel> foobArrr: why a bad idea ssd and dd? the ssd will cope with that on itself
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> e2b04836, now it just hang again
[23:56] <MatCat> Hey, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTE, and for some reason my ability to change background images has stopped working, the settings program runs fine, but the background does not change, any ideas?
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> the syslog hasn't got anything
[23:56] <vlt> foobArrr: Yeah, you’re right. Then create a new partition on SSD and ddrescue the partition content.
[23:56] <Drecondius> stalkerg: are you also using an ssd drive?
[23:56] <hydrox24> I do understand, hold on.
[23:56] <stalkerg> Drecondius: yes, on Desktop OCZ Vertex 2
[23:56] <foobArrr> vlt: thanks, good idea
[23:57] <vlt> foobArrr: And run grub-install again
[23:57] <MatCat> I've been trying to find my answer in this channel since this time yesterday :(
[23:57] <hydrox24> stalkerg: Do you want disable "Dragging" the windows between workspaces
[23:57] <hydrox24> stalkerg: or disable workspaces altogether?
[23:57] <cellardoor> I'm doing the GRUB recovery via a Ubuntu Boot disc, but when I run sudo grub-install /dev/sda. I get back "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?). - What do I do?
[23:57] <krababbel> MatCat: you mean the program in system settings?
[23:57] <MatCat> krababbel, Yes
[23:58] <stalkerg> hydrox24: only dragging
[23:58] <Drecondius> stalkerg: one moment i think i might have just thought of an answer to an unasked question. :D
[23:58] <krababbel> MatCat: weird, third party apps have had some issues with that. I'd delete all preferences.
[23:58] <MatCat> krababbel: It lets me pick images but nothing changes, just the same default ubuntu background
[23:58] <krababbel> MatCat: or try a new test user first
[23:59] <MatCat> krababbel: Where would I find the preferences to delete them?   I will try a test user now
[23:59] <hydrox24> stalkerg: I would recommend playing around with compiz-config-settings manager.
[23:59] <oga> Hey all, tring to get my line-in recording to work. Using a small personal mixer with microphone attached to get it going. No input seen on sound preferences but if mixer is turned up it will input sound by what i think is electrically stimulating the microphone port. Have tried to unmute all in alsa mixer. in the capture section there are two spaces for "Line" but no control above it... any idea?
[23:59] <krababbel> MatCat: sorry, I don't know where they are.