[08:09] <miguelonnnn> please  1 question, i want to install one package from repositories. It's not in apt-get just in svn or raw install. I preffer svn because of dependencies, but may be conflicts with apt and svn?
[08:10] <Gnea> fufu: run this:  sudo ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf && sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart   then try to access it
[08:10] <rygot> marekw2143 are you on or connecting through a network?
[08:10] <rygot> marekw2143 i mean, is the postgresql installation local?
[08:10] <marekw2143> rygot: yep, local
[08:11] <Gnea> hackoo: cat /dev/input/mice   and try to use the mouse - if you see garbage show on the screen, it works
[08:12] <marekw2143> rygot: There is unix_socket_directory option in postgres.conf in database's directory, which when changed to proper directory works fine.
[08:12] <Newbie_> i want to copy a file to .../boot/grub but i cant. need help please
[08:12] <DrRobino> Hello. How do i add a network printer?
[08:12] <rygot> marekw2143 well I don't know what to tell you. The file probably has to exist somewhere ...
[08:13] <fufu> gnea it works THANKS!!!
[08:13] <Guest50252> rygot r u and marekw from stockholm?
[08:13] <storbeck> Newbie_: '...' is not a valid directory
[08:13] <Gnea> fufu: cheers
[08:13] <Newbie_> i dont understand
[08:13] <rygot> Guest50252 why no, no we aren't
[08:13] <drygrain> I don't know my own root password! Ubuntu never asked me to set one when I installed!
[08:13] <hackoo> Gnea: yes mouse is working fine, but myt problem is not in mouse, I am seeking help for the touchpad, it not working, how to check its not defected?
[08:13] <drygrain> I can't su!
[08:13] <marekw2143> rygot: I think it's ubuntu's specific problem. I've installed postgres via apt-get on ubuntu 8.10. On other ubuntu machine (8.10 too), when postgres was installed from sources, there werent any problems like that
[08:14] <Newbie_> but i am in the grub folder right now. its just that i cant copy anything into it
[08:14] <storbeck> You said you want to copy a file to ".../boot/grub", well, "..." is not a valid directory.
[08:14] <nephlim> i can't copy one partition to another: "has_journal, dir_index, filetype, sparse_super and large_file. use tine2fs or debugfs to remove features"
[08:14] <nephlim> what does that mean?
[08:14] <storbeck> Are you using sudo?
[08:14] <Gnea> bod: check this guide out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[08:14] <miguelonnnn> please  1 question, i want to install one package from repositories. It's not in apt-get just in svn or raw install. I preffer svn because of dependencies, but may be conflicts with apt and svn?
[08:14] <drygrain> yes
[08:14] <fufu> drygrain your root password is the same password you use for login
[08:14] <drygrain> sudo will work
[08:14] <rygot> marekw2143 sorry, I don't know where else to go. Maybe slap your computer
[08:14] <drygrain> but i want to login as root
[08:14] <Tritaris> anyone else having trouble connecting to python.org?
[08:14] <Gnea> hackoo: the touchpad *IS* the mouse.
[08:14] <drygrain> it says authentication failure
[08:14] <storbeck> drygrain: sudo -i
[08:15] <fufu> try "sudo su"
[08:15] <fufu> drygrain
[08:15] <drygrain> lol
[08:15]  * Gnea prefers sudo -i
[08:15] <drygrain> sudo -i worked
[08:15] <storbeck> You can also do "sudo passwd" to update the root password, then you can just "su" as normal.
[08:16] <Guest50252> sudo -i will access your root
[08:16] <Gnea> !sudo
[08:16] <Gnea> storbeck: we do not encourage such behavior here, please.
[08:16] <storbeck> What behavior?
[08:16] <Gnea> storbeck: what you just suggested.
[08:16] <billybigrigger> !iso
[08:16] <storbeck> Huh?
[08:16] <Newbie_> how do i get permission to enter file system?
[08:17] <Gnea> storbeck: what part of "please don't say that again in here" is not understood?
[08:17] <Zachk18> Newbie_: go to your file system...how else
[08:17] <drygrain> How do I give TrueCrypt permission to create a directory?
[08:17] <storbeck> I don't understand what you don't want me to say.
[08:17] <Gnea> storbeck: 02:19 < storbeck> You can also do "sudo passwd" to update the root password, then you can just "su" as normal.
[08:17] <Newbie_> but i cant copy anything into it. its saying i dont have permission
[08:17] <Gnea> !sudo | storbeck
[08:17] <Zachk18> Gnea: give storbeck a break...
[08:17] <nephlim> !debugfs
[08:17] <Gnea> Zachk18: pardon?
[08:18] <Zachk18> take it easy Gnea
[08:18] <Gnea> Zachk18: I am taking it easy. did you fix your away problem?
[08:18] <amortvigil> hello i mounted an usb to rs232 converter with an software key attached. but i get errors while mounting wich declare the key is not a block deveice, what can i do?
[08:18] <barata> hi, how to run an app at the background?
[08:18] <barata> bg?
[08:18] <Guest50252> this server is located in sweden right?
[08:18] <prince_jammys> barata: progname &
[08:18] <barata> thanks prince_jammys
[08:18] <barata> so embarrasing I can forget that
[08:19] <spade> Good Morning,
[08:19] <spade> I like to use the latest version of freemind (freemind.sf.net) which is Release Candidate 4 for FreeMind 0.9.0. Synaptics only offers 0.8.1 which is missing important features I like to use. I got the tarball which I downloaded and untared to ~/Downloads/freemind. In the documentation it says: double click freemind.jar in the lib/ folder of the folder in which FreeMind has been installed....
[08:19] <spade> ...There is no freemind.jar in that lib/ folder, which I suppose means, it isn't properly installed. I found one occurrence of that file in ~/Downloads/bin/dist/lib which seems a wired location to me. After changing the permissions I was able to start the program and also create a panel icon for it. Which was what I wanted to get help for from you guys. I figured it out my self, while...
[08:19] <Newbie_> zachk18 : i cant copy anything into it. its asking for permission
[08:19] <FloodBot1> spade: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:19] <spade> ...writing this post. I love IRC. Thanks for being there for me.
[08:19] <Hitman32> Hi guys
[08:20] <rot> where are you trying to copy something Newbie?
[08:20] <Gnea> spade: .jar files aren't meant to be made executable, you have to use java to use them
[08:20] <storbeck> Newbie_: Use 'sudo'
[08:20] <Gnea> !java | spade
[08:20] <Newbie_> storbeck : how please?
[08:21] <storbeck> Newbie_: sudo cp ~/yourfile .
[08:21] <kaveh> guys i have this awkward problem ill type it all up
[08:21] <Newbie_> rot : from a cd to filesystem/boot/grub
[08:21] <spade> Oops, sorry and thanks for the replies. I'll see what I can do with it.
[08:21] <WishingMaster> indus,i am back
[08:22] <prince_jammys> barata: bg does work if you ctrl-z a foreground process to stop it, and then 'bg'.
[08:22] <Zachk18> Gnea: hows this....
[08:22] <indus> WishingMaster: good
[08:22]  * Zachk18 is back (gone 00:25:20)
[08:22] <WishingMaster> indus,i cannot run this command apt-get --fix-broken
[08:22] <prince_jammys> wow.
[08:22] <Gnea> Zachk18: it tells me that you haven't listened to my advice, nor got it fixed.
[08:22] <WishingMaster> indus,it says it is an invalid commnad
[08:23] <Hitman32> I have file *.bundle   how to install it,  it's VMware program
[08:23] <Hitman32> help here<<<<
[08:23] <kaveh> holy crap dw i just tried umount again and it worked
[08:23] <fufu> when I stream from youtube, my video does not work, but audio works. How can I get video?
[08:24] <Zachk18> Gnea: what do i do then
[08:24] <syahed> hello
[08:24] <Zachk18> Gnea: cause i don't know how to fix it
[08:24] <Gnea> Zachk18: /join #xchat and ask them how to turn the away message thingy off.
[08:24] <syahed> im newbie
[08:24] <Zachk18> ok
[08:24] <fufu> !flash
[08:24] <Hitman32> me too
[08:24] <prince_jammys> WishingMaster: looks fine. sudo apt-get --fix-broken
[08:24] <syahed> i really like ubuntu now
[08:24] <Hitman32> help
[08:24] <syahed> but i have a little knowledge about it
[08:24] <Hitman32> I have file *.bundle   how to install it,  it's VMware program
[08:24] <syahed> hope u guys can help me out ok
[08:24] <WishingMaster> prince_jammys,i am log in as root
[08:25] <prince_jammys> WishingMaster: what error message do you get?
[08:25] <Guest304> install ultamatix
[08:25] <Hitman32> ?
[08:25] <Guest304> it installs lots of things
[08:25] <Hitman32> me
[08:25] <Guest304> sure
[08:25] <Guest304> u
[08:25] <Hitman32> ultamatix??
[08:25] <Guest304> yeah
[08:25] <prince_jammys> !automatix
[08:25] <WishingMaster> prince_jammys, command is not valid after --fix
[08:25] <Guest304> not automatix
[08:26] <Hitman32> apt-get install ultamatix ?
[08:26] <Hitman32> like this
[08:26] <prince_jammys> there's something called ultamatix now?
[08:26] <prince_jammys> WishingMaster: that's the exact error message?
[08:26] <Guest304> ultamatix is the automatix update
[08:26] <prince_jammys> WishingMaster: apt-get -f
[08:26] <WishingMaster> i will get back to you with exact msg
[08:26] <WishingMaster> bye
[08:27] <prince_jammys> bye
[08:27] <Hitman32> i need to install bundle file
[08:27] <prince_jammys> Hitman32: there are no instructions from where you got the file?
[08:27] <gOLDfeesh> !nvidia
[08:28] <Hitman32> VMware
[08:28] <Guest304> what bundle file?
[08:28] <storbeck> Hitman32: sudo ./vmware.bundle
[08:28] <Hitman32> www.VMware.com
[08:28] <wizz> i've been check my network software n it's there, but it can do nothing. i can't connect to any wireless. can somebody help me?
[08:28] <ejv> how can I tunnel wget over ssh? so it looks like a request is coming from another location? i've tried fiddling with .wgetrc, but nothing so far...
[08:28] <Guest304> sudo -y apt-get <file>
[08:29] <fufu> okay I learnt that you have 3 options of flash to install from, I installed the wrong one, how do I uninstall that flash?
[08:29] <Zachk18> fufu: synaptic package manager
[08:29] <Guest304> sudo -y apt-get install vmare
[08:29] <Hitman32> ./ work   ,, thankx
[08:30] <gOLDfeesh> product: C51 [Geforce 6150 Go] anyone know where i can get the binary driver for that ?
[08:30] <storbeck> fufu: sudo apt-get remove file
[08:30] <Gnea> fufu: find out which one you have installed:  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep flash
[08:30] <Zachk18> gnea: got it fixed
[08:30] <wizz> i have a a problem with my wlan. it can't connect to any wireless....
[08:30] <Gnea> Zachk18: good job
[08:30] <wizz> HELP!
[08:30] <Zachk18> wizz: what's the prob?
[08:30] <TheShahFactor> How do I convert .PCM file to a .WAV audio file in Ubuntu?
[08:31] <gOLDfeesh> !mp3
[08:31] <anahel> WinAmp not running
[08:31] <wizz> my laptop can't connect to any wireless even it has wlan software, Zachk18
[08:31] <storbeck> TheShahFactor: Have you looked at Audacity?
[08:31] <wizz> !wireless
[08:32] <Guest304> how can i packet sniff a remote computer off a wan if i know the router ip?
[08:32] <wizz> Zachk18
[08:32] <wizz> please, HELP!
[08:32] <storbeck> Guest304: /join ##security
[08:33] <gOLDfeesh> Guest304, check ##security
[08:33] <gOLDfeesh> lol nice storbeck '
[08:33] <storbeck> :)
[08:33] <Guest304> i wanna packet sniff my girlfriends computer at her house if i get her router ip is there anyway i can do it from my house accross the internet?
[08:33] <TheShahFactor> storbeck : i tried opening the file in audacity but it doesnt give the output correctly..or so I think..
[08:34] <Newbie_> please i need to copy a folder from a cd into File System. but it is telling me i don't have permission. what do i do? please
[08:34] <Hitman32> yo hacker
[08:34] <Guest304> if i hack into her lan? or router?
[08:34] <fufu> gnea when i typed in your cmd to get name of program i got this "ii  flashplugin-installer                      <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>           Adobe Flash Player plugin installer" what would the name of version be?
[08:34] <fufu>  i typed sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer , the terminal said 180kb will be freed after i uninstall it... so what
[08:35] <fufu> so thats not the complete uninstall?
[08:35] <ejv> !offtopic > Guest304
[08:35] <prince_jammys> Guest304: wrong channel.
[08:35] <Hitman32> other qustion
[08:35] <Hitman32> it's for newbie
[08:36] <Solar_Flare> cu guys.
[08:36] <Hitman32> how to access to root ?
[08:36] <Flannel> Hitman32: Prefix your command with sudo
[08:36] <Flannel> !sudo | Hitman32
[08:36] <maco> !root | Hitman32
[08:36] <storbeck> TheShahFactor: Check out sox, then do something like: sox -t raw -b 16 -e signed-integer -r 44100 -B -c2 file.pcm outfile.wav
[08:36] <Hitman32> sudo su ?
[08:37] <Newbie_> so nobody can help me?
[08:37] <Hitman32> what you need
[08:37] <Hitman32> ?
[08:37] <Gnea> fufu: the version is <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>, and yes, that's the complete uninstall. after that, just install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:37] <Hitman32> newbie_: what's you problem?
[08:38] <Gnea> Newbie_: sudo cp /media/cdrom/yourfile /boot/grub/
[08:38] <Newbie_> so no 1 here has a solution?
[08:38] <Gnea> Newbie_: dude, stop that.
[08:38] <Hitman32> gnea have one
[08:38] <Newbie_> ok
[08:38] <Newbie_> sry please
[08:39] <Newbie_> didnt see that
[08:39] <Hitman32> sudo cp ..
[08:39] <Newbie_> i'm sorry
[08:39] <Hitman32> :D it's Okay
[08:39] <Gnea> Newbie_: just try it, it's cool
[08:39] <Hitman32> gnea:
[08:40] <Hitman32> Is there away to access to root in graphics mode
[08:40] <Gnea> Hitman32: gksudo nautilus
[08:41] <Hitman32> gksudo nautilus?
[08:41] <Hitman32> in trminal
[08:41] <Hitman32> ?
[08:41] <Hitman32> BrB
[08:42] <TheShahFactor> storbeck : didnt work ; just found out that sox doesnt support PCM
[08:42] <storbeck> Can you upload it somewhere?
[08:42] <TheShahFactor> aah where
[08:43] <storbeck> try 2shared.com
[08:43] <Newbie_> Gnea : i copied the folder from the cd to my desktop. how do i copy it into File System/boot/grub?
[08:44] <TheShahFactor> storbeck http://jump.fm/QQSRD
[08:45] <goddard> i had a report on my ubuntu server
[08:45] <goddard> checking corrupt not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables
[08:45] <goddard> what does this mean?
[08:47] <storbeck> it worked for me
[08:47] <adub> what are some good open source web applications
[08:48] <storbeck> sox -t raw -b 16 -e signed-integer -r 44100 -B -c2 test_samantha.pcm outfile.wav
[08:48] <pagix> Morning
[08:49] <TheShahFactor> crap why did it not work for me? Failed reading `XX.pcm': unknown file type `pcm'
[08:49] <indus> adub: web applications to do what
[08:49] <storbeck> weird
[08:49] <storbeck> I'll  upload it for you
[08:49] <adub> indus hell i dont know anything im just open to ideas
[08:50] <storbeck> http://jump.fm/HDANI
[08:50] <adub> currently im running zoneminder, twiki, and base on my apache server
[08:50] <adub> was just wondering if there was anything else cool out there
[08:50] <indus> adub: whats zoneminder
[08:50] <pradeep> wat does nmap command do
[08:51] <storbeck> man nmap
[08:51] <pradeep> ?
[08:51] <adub> indus its tight www.zoneminder.com
[08:51] <Newbie_> please i need help copying a folder from my desktop to File System/boot/grub. each time i try, it says i don't have permission. what do i do please?
[08:51] <pradeep> anyone there
[08:51] <adub> indus its video surveillance software I have network IP cameras setup at home
[08:52] <adub> and I can log into them remotely from anywhere in the world through a web browser
[08:52] <indus> adub: cool ,
[08:52] <adub> ya
[08:52] <adub> im just fishing for anymore coolness that I could setup on my home network
[08:53] <adub> I use twiki b/c i use it at work and base just b/c i like using snort and i can check to see if anyone is hackin my crap
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> adub: fileserver with backup?
[08:53] <storbeck> I'd setup Big Brother
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> adub: remote torrent server using http?
[08:53] <adub> like a web file server
[08:53] <adub> ahh all good ideas
[08:53] <adub> :)
[08:53] <bib1> how can I install deb packages locally without root password?
[08:53] <pagix> adub, how about a online compiler?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> adub: just a file share of some sort to dump files in, the backup can then copy the files to backup
[08:54] <Gnea> Newbie_: sudo cp ~/thefile /boot/grub/
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> adub: folding@home
[08:54] <Hitman32> Hi,, i feel my computer very slow
[08:54] <adub> ActionParsnip I love that idea
[08:54] <pagix> Hitman32, poor u
[08:54] <storbeck> Setup an IRC logger with a searching function so people don't ask the same question over and over.
[08:54] <adub> A file server to be able to send and recieve files
[08:54] <Gnea> !guidelines | pagix
[08:54] <Hitman32> i need to  stop effects
[08:54] <adub> with a browse and upload option or something
[08:55] <Gnea> Hitman32: system->preferences->display  then hit the far-right tab and turn them off
[08:55] <adub> is there anything out there that does that
[08:55] <Hitman32> make it normal
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: can you pastebin the output of: top -n 1
[08:55] <adub> where i can upload files to the server and download
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> adub: configure a cifs/samba/sshfs share
[08:55] <Gnea> !samba | adub
[08:55] <Hitman32> wait
[08:56] <adub> no i mean remotely
[08:56] <Techie> one thing i always find handy is a SSL encrypted CGI proxy
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> adub: sure, you can configure it all with ssh
[08:56] <adub> like you know you go to the websites and you want to upload files there will be a browse button
[08:56] <adub> right but i would want everything done through port 80
[08:56] <Gnea> adub: just set it up using using tikiwiki
[08:56] <adub> like be able to go on to my webpage
[08:56] <adub> twiki?
[08:56] <Gnea> adub: yeah
[08:57] <adub> is there  a plugin
[08:57] <Gnea> you'll have to read the documentation for it to find out
[08:57] <Gnea> I would imagine that it has that capability
[08:57] <Gnea> if it's a real CMS, that is
[08:57]  * Gnea is off now
[08:58] <Hitman32> ActionParsnip: i install VMware to make 'VM'   for that i need my computer to 'work fast' :P
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: as long as top doesnt show your system labouring its fine
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: you may need to restrict the resources the VM can use
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: if your pc sucks then VMs are going to cripple it good
[08:59] <Hitman32> I'm arabic,, take it easy with me
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: doesnt matter where you are from
[09:00] <Hitman32> i mean your language
[09:00] <Hitman32> make it sample
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: if your computer is old and slow then VMs will make it run even slower
[09:00] <torocatala> hey, i have a problem whit the input audio
[09:01] <Hitman32> no it's okay,, but i need to work it VM
[09:01] <storbeck> If computer bad, VM make it more bad.
[09:01] <Hitman32> work in**
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> storbeck: bit patronising, but yes ;)
[09:01] <Hitman32>  i understand
[09:02] <Hitman32> :D
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> torocatala: ask your question and the channel will reply if it can
[09:03] <Hitman32> so,, i need to display effects to make my pc better
[09:03] <Hitman32> how can i display effects
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> effects will make it slower
[09:03] <storbeck> rofl
[09:03] <Hitman32> display it :@
[09:04] <Hitman32> stoped it >> how
[09:04] <storbeck> disable
[09:04] <Zachk18> Hitman32: extra affects will slow down your system alot
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: you need to install video drivers, this will make the desktop run smoother
[09:04] <Hitman32> yes disable
[09:04] <storbeck> Hitman32: metacity --replace &
[09:05] <Hitman32> my VGA is sis771
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: is this in the host system of guest?
[09:05] <Hitman32>  metacity --replace & damn what's that do?
[09:05] <storbeck> It replaced your desktop effects (compiz) with metacity.
[09:05] <Hitman32> what you mean?
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: the host is the OS on your system, the guest is the VM. I thought you worked in VMs?
[09:06] <Hitman32> here is the output   [1] 24558
[09:06] <Andorin> Hmm... I have a partition set aside on my hard drive for backing up my files. However, I don't seem to be able to delete anything from it. If I delete something it goes to the partition's trash, and deleting the files from there does nothing because they don't move. How can I remove them permanently? I imagine that there's an Ubuntu program that will do it.
[09:06] <Hitman32> No
[09:06] <Hitman32> i don't
[09:07] <Hitman32> I have Ubuntu right now
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ok, so your pc has a sis graphics chip
[09:07] <Hitman32> yeah :((
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> ok run: gksudo gedit /etc/11/xorg.conf
[09:07] <Jerusalem420> so, i booted to windblows (boohoo) and was able to config my new router no problem. when I connect my ubuntu box through the router to the net, it doesn't work
[09:07] <Jerusalem420> i've configed a wired conncection
[09:07] <Jerusalem420> but its not being used.
[09:08] <Jerusalem420> any suggestions?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: then you will see: Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device"
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: under that add:   Driver "sis"
[09:08] <Hitman32> stop   nothing display
[09:08] <Hansard> Hello, I'm not sure if this is the appropriate channel to ask for support for this particular issue, it's just that I use ubuntu. My issue is trying to install a ndiswrapper wireless driver for my Belkin 54g wireless pci card (Broadcom chip) BCM4306 Rev3. Using the ndiswrapper utility it says "Unable to see if hardware is present". Some pages from google suggested I install pciutils and I...
[09:08] <Hansard> ...did and it didn't help.
[09:08] <Hitman32> only empty file
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: can you provide a pastebin of the output of: ifconfig
[09:08] <Hansard> hmmm this used to beep when I got to the end of a line
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: did you type the command EXACTLY?
[09:09] <Jerusalem420> sure. where do ya'll pastebin around here?
[09:09] <Hitman32> copy past
[09:09] <storbeck> Why are you installing ndiswrapper?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: linux is case sensitive, thats why i put a capital X
[09:09] <storbeck> Doesn't Ubuntu use udev?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: are you using kde?
[09:09] <Hansard> storbeck: because the standard wireless drivers aren't working so I have to wrap the windows ones. Or so I've been lead to believe.
[09:09] <Hitman32> no gMOM
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ok
[09:09] <pinoyskull> what replaces automatix?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:10] <Jerusalem420> http://paste.ubuntu.com/268443/ ActionParsnip
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: copy that, press alt+f2, paste the command into the box
[09:10] <Hitman32> Ok
[09:10] <Hitman32> then
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: eth0 has no config
[09:11] <Hitman32> it's open :))  then what?
[09:11] <Jerusalem420> meaning what?
[09:11] <Jerusalem420> oh yeah
[09:11] <storbeck> Jerusalem420: Try "ifconfig wlan0 up"
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: its failing dhcp
[09:11] <Jerusalem420> cause i erased it.
[09:11] <Jerusalem420> let me show you
[09:11] <pinoyskull> what replaces automatix?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: you will see   Section "Device"    Identifier "Configured Video Device"
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: yes?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !info automatix
[09:12] <Hansard> I've also tried blacklisting bcm43xx, ssb, b43, b43-pci-bridge etc. But I think it keeps loading b43-pci-bridge and not the ndiswrapper driver even though it is blacklisted.
[09:12] <Hitman32> yep
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: under that line add another line that reads:    Driver "sis"
[09:12] <torocatala> Look, I'm testing VoIP on my lan, (Skype, TeamSpeak), i hear the other persons, and they hear me, but my audio arrive some seconds later after y talk
[09:13] <Hitman32> No
[09:13] <storbeck> pinoyskull: ultramatix
[09:13] <torocatala> anyone know why?
[09:13] <Hitman32> take look
[09:13] <mostafa_> does anyone know where jockey saves its downloaded files?
[09:13] <Hitman32> you see it!!
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: use pastebin in future please
[09:13] <torocatala> i need to go
[09:13] <torocatala> we talk later
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: like I said, add the line
[09:13] <Jerusalem420> http://paste.ubuntu.com/268446/ is the /etc/network/interfaces that i tried to use
[09:14] <Jerusalem420> but it didn't work.
[09:14] <banyanhe> i think you should check the delay
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> pinoyskull: theres tweakubuntu I think its called.
[09:14] <banyanhe> more than 30ms will be bad
[09:14] <Jerusalem420> so i recommented out the config for eth0 and left dsl-provider working (which is how I'm online
[09:14] <pinoyskull> thanks storbeck and ActionParsnip
[09:14] <Hitman32> what you want from me,, add line??
[09:14] <storbeck> Jerusalem420: Did you try "ifconfig wlan0 up"?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: the first line of eth0 is bad
[09:15] <Jerusalem420> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: iface eth0 inet static
[09:15] <Jerusalem420> whats wrong with it
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: your network and IP dont match either
[09:15] <mostafa_> does anyone know where jockey saves its downloaded files?
[09:16] <naftilos76> hi everyone, which download manager do you propose for ubuntu?
[09:16] <Hitman32> ..........
[09:16] <Jerusalem420> the network should be what?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: you defined your network as <IP_ADDRESS> when your iIP and gateway are in the network <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:16] <blue-frog> torocatala: certainly something to do with your bandwith (internet)
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: add the line where I told you
[09:16] <Hitman32> what line
[09:16] <Hitman32> ?
[09:16] <mostafa_> does anyone know where jockey saves its downloaded files?
[09:16] <Hitman32> what i write
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: if your IP is to be <IP_ADDRESS> then the network is <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: and the broadcast will be <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: 3rd time now....   Driver "sis"
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: in the "Configured Video Device" section
[09:17] <Jerusalem420> ok action i've made the updates.
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: ok save the file and run: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:18] <Hitman32> like this
[09:18] <Jerusalem420> how i do get ubuntu to load them w/o rebooting? and also, should I comment out the dsl-provider bit?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ok check the PM, this is getting really old now
[09:18] <glickity> excuse me, im running ubuntu on a netbook, why does every window open up maximized and how can i change that
[09:18] <Jerusalem420> thanks Action
[09:18] <glickity> its very annoying
[09:18] <glickity> does anyone know where i can change that preference
[09:18] <Hitman32> sample language please !!
[09:20] <ankur9118> hello everyone...
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: watch your subnets or it wont work
[09:20] <blue-frog> glickity: because the screen is very small then maximised is the best choice; no I don't know how to chnage that. use normal edition of ubuntu
[09:20] <mostafa_> does anyone know where jockey saves its downloaded files?
[09:20] <glickity> there must be some preference where you can change that though
[09:21] <ankur9118> i am receiving the error , invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm, action "reload" failed...
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/268451/
[09:22] <Hitman32> Ok
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: see how only 1 line is different, add that
[09:22]  * storbeck sighs with ActionParsnip
[09:22] <Hansard> Can anyone help me with the ndiswrapper or Belkin wireless pci card driver problem? If you can please say so and I'll patiently wait until you're available to talk.
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> storbeck: its hard somedays
[09:22] <storbeck> agreed
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: can you provide the output (in a pastebin) of: sudo lshw -C network
[09:23] <Hitman32> Ok then ??
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> !paste > Hansard
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: save all work and reboot
[09:23] <Hitman32> Ok
[09:23] <Hitman32> bye
[09:23] <Andorin> Hmm... I have a partition set aside on my hard drive for backing up my files. However, I don't seem to be able to delete anything from it. If I delete something it goes to the partition's trash, and deleting the files from there does nothing because they don't move. How can I remove them permanently? I imagine that there's an Ubuntu program that will do it.
[09:24] <Hansard> I'll have to type it out because I'm typing on my laptop (wireless working) and my desktop has no internet at the moment
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: oh ok, all e need is the product line
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> s/e/we
[09:25] <storbeck> Hansard: Did you have internet working on the livecd?
[09:25] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Hansard
[09:25] <Hansard> storbeck: I never checked. I did a fresh install to a newly created ext4 partition
[09:26] <storbeck> You probably just need to modprobe the correct driver, ifconfig it, configure it with iwconfig, then dhcpcd it
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: you can use the fwcutter etc to get drivers for broadcom things
[09:27] <Hansard> storbeck: I modprobed the ndiswrapper windows driver, ifconfig didn't work it said it couldn't set it.
[09:27] <ankur9118> I am unable to start ubuntu in graphichs mode...somebody help to figure out the problem...
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: no need for ndiswrapper
[09:28] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: I'll try those instructions, thank you, then I'll come back to the channel.
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: make sure you remove ndiswrapper first
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> ankur9118: have you tried booting to recovery mode and using the fix graphics option
[09:28] <ankur9118> its taking me to "ubuntu is running in low graphichs mode" and then it hangs...
[09:29] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: just sudo rmmod ndiswrapper, correct?
[09:29] <lyhana8> hi, I got some issue with a usb disk
[09:29] <storbeck> That's because you installed the wrong graphics driver, ankur9118
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: sure
[09:29] <lyhana8> here is what I got for : lsusb, dmesg and fdisk -l : http://pastebin.com/d27dd47fd
[09:30] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: thank you. :)
[09:30] <lyhana8> I want to mount the Western Digital disk
[09:30] <ankur9118> ActionParsnip: yes i have tried its working in single user mode n networking mode...
[09:30] <krauser_> http://pecl.php.net/package/ssh2 is there a way to apt-get install this package ?
[09:30] <naftilos76> Download manager for Ubuntu 9.04???
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> ankur9118: ok boot to recovery root console and run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:30] <storbeck> I use wget as a download manager.
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: is it a 250Gb usb disk?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> naftilos76: gwget is ok
[09:31] <ankur9118> i have done that ....its giving the following error
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> naftilos76: there are many
[09:31] <ankur9118>  invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm, action "reload" failed...
[09:31] <storbeck> Wrong driver.
[09:31] <naftilos76>  gwget is probably the one i'm looking for - thnks
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> i just use the one in opera, works nice
[09:32] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: yep, why ?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: just checking, ok can you provide the output of: mount
[09:33] <Branko> hello all
[09:33] <ankur9118> ActionParsnip: if i forcefully start gdm then it hangs...
[09:33] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I've 2 usb disk of 250Gb : a WB and another
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Branko
[09:33] <Branko> i have some problems with new karmic release, who can help please?
[09:33] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d257de96a
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: thats fine, can you provide the mount output in a pastebin please
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> cool
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | Branko
[09:34] <Branko> ok, thanks!
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: ok its mounted on /media/disk
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type reiserfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[09:34] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: that's my other one
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: your fdisk output only shows a 100Gb for system (I assume internal) and a 250Gb with 1 partition
[09:35] <ankur9118> any help regarding this...
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: ok, unplug the device, wait 10 seconds, plug it back in, wait 10 seconds, run: dmesg | tail
[09:36] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I told you I have 2 disk of 250Gb, mine is working. The Western Digital is the one of my gf, and is the one i'm looking for
[09:36] <Branko> thanks ubottu
[09:36] <Jerusalem420_> progress, at least now my ubuntu box sees the router. and the router is connecting to my ISP, but i still can't connect to the net via the router.
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> ankur9118: boot to recovery root console and run: dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:37] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: did you see the output of dmesg in the first link ? http://pastebin.com/d27dd47fd
[09:37] <storbeck> Jerusalem420_: Try: sudo ifup eth0
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: i know, i want the kernel to react to the removal and adding of the device
[09:37] <Branko> it appears that no one is active on #ubuntu+1...
[09:37] <ankur9118> ActionParsnip: it gives same message = invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm, action "reload" failed...
[09:38] <Jerusalem420_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/268460/
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ankur9118: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-97527.html
[09:38] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: here http://pastebin.com/d1978946e
[09:38] <Jerusalem420_> eth0 isn't up at the moment cause i'm using my old /etc/networks/interfaces settings
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: you need to add some name servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: then access your routers web config page, check the WAN config, you will see DNS server IPs.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: in the resolv.conf file add:
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: nameserver <ip>
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: for each DNS listed
[09:39] <storbeck> I've always used search as well.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: then save the file, close gedit and restart networking
[09:41] <ankur9118> ActonParsnip: the problem is identical but its not working..."force-reload" also failed...
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: as you are not using dhcp, you would normally get given your dns adresses for name resolution. You have disabled this so need to add them manually
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ankur9118: seems to be a frequent thing. Try some websearches for the output you are getting
[09:43] <ankur9118> ActionParsnip: thats what i was doing from last day they all say " dpkg-reconfigure **" but its not working...
[09:43] <kevin__> hello
[09:44] <rygot> It feels so empty when you spend an hour helping someone via PM, they say they are going to reboot and you never hear from them again :(
[09:44] <rygot> I .... I feel used
[09:44] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: so any idea ?
[09:44] <adub> what is the package for moddav webdav  ??
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: you could add their UUIDs in /etc/fstab
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: then they will mount to different places
[09:46] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: how do I get the UUID of a disk ?
[09:46] <bodee> Äîáðûé äåíü , ìîæåò ëè êòî òî ïîäñêàçàòü âîçìîæíî ëè ïîñòðîèòü èç äàííîé ÎÑ ïîëíîöåííóþ ñèñòåìó , à òî÷íåå Ðîóòåð íà áàçå ÐÐÐîå , âåá ñåðâåð , ôòï ?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: sudo blkid
[09:46] <lyhana8> bodee: ?
[09:46] <bodee> ru
[09:50] <Qu4R0w> im waiting for Sept,29
[09:50] <torocatala> i'm back
[09:50] <rygot> torocatala we missed you
[09:51] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: got no output, like the command block on something
[09:51] <torocatala> Look, I'm testing VoIP on my lan, (Skype, TeamSpeak), i hear the other persons, and they hear me, but my audio arrive some seconds later after y talk
[09:51] <torocatala> and it's not the bandwhit because in the other computer works fine
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> !uuid | lyhana8
[09:52] <ravn2> hey guys, I have a problem with usb mice - dmesg says "vmap allocation failed: use vmalloc=<size> to increase size" ... "generic-usb: probe of 0003:045E:007D.0005 failed with error -12" Google doesn't help, anyone??
[09:53] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I run it as root, isn't supposed to be instantaneous ?
[09:54] <torocatala> hi?
[09:54] <willthisdoat42> hi toro
[09:54] <Qu4R0w> how can i get offset/voffset??what tool need to measure & get it value
[09:55] <torocatala> no one can help me whit my problem? any idea? i only found a thread whit no responses on google
[09:55] <Qu4R0w> torocatala: what ur problem?
[09:55] <torocatala> Look, I'm testing VoIP on my lan, (Skype, TeamSpeak), i hear the other persons, and they hear me, but my audio arrive some seconds later after y talk
[09:55] <torocatala> and it's not the bandwhit because in the other computer works fine
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: yes its instant, use sudo with it. you never need root
[09:57] <glickity> are there any glade users in here by any remote chance?
[09:57] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I got nothing. I know root is evil :P
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: good lad
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[09:57] <chalcedny> i have a black screen with a - in the top left corner .. what is that a part of and how do i get out of it?
[09:58] <chalcedny> (((( ActionParsnip  )))))
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> hi chalcedny
[09:58] <chalcedny> its ubuntu 8.04 long term
[09:58] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I'm running a jaunty with kde4.3.1
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> chalcedny: yes its an LTS release
[09:58] <Qu4R0w> torocatala: i not know about that topic..sorry
[09:58] <chalcedny> ActionParsnip,  the - means something?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> !lts | chalcedny
[09:59] <chalcedny> ActionParsnip, yes .. i do sort of know that.. why the black screen with the - in the top left corner?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: do you get any output at all?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> chalcedny: bad video driver maybe
[10:00] <lyhana8> from blkid nop ActionParsnip
[10:00] <EXTACYs> hey guys john the ripper doesn't work
[10:00] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: the instructions said I had to move those to packages to /lib and I used sudo cp and I think they might be write protected or something now because the sudo b43-fwcutter command gave the error "Cannot open input file wl_apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o". It's been a while since I've used linux, I can't remember what chmod level I need to do etc.
[10:00] <marceloa> Hi
[10:00] <marceloa> question
[10:00] <jim_p> hi people. How can i check if an installation is on 32 or 64 bits?
[10:00] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I don't find the disk in /dev/sd* which is strange cause lsusb and dmesg caught it
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: tried with sudo?
[10:00] <jim_p> uname -r is not very helpful
[10:01] <chalcedny> ActionParsnip,  im trying to get it to boot from a sata card with an adaptor .. it's just not working
[10:01] <Qu4R0w> i want to configure my conky and want use offset/voffset..how can i get the pixel to locate conky??
[10:01] <Sidewinder1> !ask | marceloa>
[10:01] <EXTACYs> jim_p u didn't check in the downloading page ?
[10:01] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: exactly as the website says "sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o"
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> chalcedny: maybe the sata card isnt configured and needs messing with
[10:01] <jim_p> EXTACYs: its not MY installation
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: what is the output of:  ls -al /lib/firmware wl_apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o
[10:02] <Qu4R0w> MY=Malaysia??
[10:02] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: I think when I sudo cp the files from my usb drive to /lib/ that they might have the wrong permissions now (in the file browser gui they have a little orange circle with an X in it up the top right hand corner.
[10:02] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: Cannot open input file wl_apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: sudo with supercede any permissions
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: there you go, the file doesnt exist
[10:02] <EspadaV8_W> hi, are there any RSS feeds for package updates to the latest LTS release?
[10:03] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: hmmm?
[10:03] <n8tuser> Hansard-> you seemed to be missing a /  it should be /lib/firmware/wl...
[10:03] <EspadaV8_W> ideally along with details of what's changed with the update
[10:03] <EXTACYs> jim_p then uname -a works  if x86 = 32bit and if  x64 = 64bit
[10:04] <jim_p> in lsb_release -a i also get "No LSB modules are available." :S
[10:04] <Hansard> n8tuser: oh
[10:04] <jim_p> EXTACYs: thanks, give me a sec
[10:04] <Hansard> n8tuser: thanks, someone should correct that on the help.ubuntu.com site as well
[10:05] <hernad> hi, i have problem on karmic with firefox - some letters are cut, already reported here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1240785
[10:05] <hq> hello all
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | hernad
[10:06] <hernad> thank you didn't know for this channel
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> hernad: thats not a bug report
[10:06] <hq> i know this has probably been discussed in the past, but I need help in connecting my BT Logitech Media Pro keyboard on my PS3 to Xubuntu 9.04, can anyone help
[10:07] <hq> cls
[10:07] <hernad> ActionParsnip: ok I will report to launchpad
[10:07] <EXTACYs> so .. .  no one uses john the ripper . ..
[10:08] <frogzoo> any ideas how to get a ZTE 6273 3G usb modem recognised?
[10:08] <hq> thanks for nothing :P
[10:08] <frogzoo> I've tried the ZTE 627 package, without success - something's slightly different...
[10:09] <EXTACYs> frogzoo : usb modems should be automatically recognized maybe u should check the installation
[10:09] <Guest63309> ººÓï
[10:09] <WishingMaster> apt-get --fix-broken returns Command line option 'i' [from -fix-broken] is not known...........does n e 1 have an idea about this?
[10:09] <mostafa_> does anyone know where jockey saves its downloaded files?
[10:09] <mostafa_> jockey-gtk
[10:09] <frogzoo> EXTACYs: heh - supported usb modems are automatically recognised, this is a new usb modem, and not supported - well, not yet
[10:11] <WishingMaster> apt-get --fix-broken returns Command line option 'i' [from -fix-broken] is not known...........does n e 1 have an idea about this? root logged in
[10:11] <EXTACYs> frogzoo ...  when i used dual boot it didnt recognize my modem too . ..  so i used VMware
[10:12] <lexr> what desktop environment should I put on Pentium III Copermine with 256mb of ram and integrated graphics?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> lexr: i suggest LXDE or XFCE
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> lexr: p3 coppermines are awesome
[10:12] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, hi
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: dont log on as root
[10:13] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,you must be knowing about apt-get --f
[10:13] <lexr> thanks :)
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: i know -f but not --f
[10:13] <Jerusalem420> action, i have one out of 2 of my ubuntu machines online w/ the router
[10:13] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,ok
[10:14] <Jerusalem420> but my primamry machine is stil not getting dns info
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: --f doesnt exist
[10:14] <Jerusalem420> suggestions?
[10:14] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: nevermind, the space is supposed to be there, I looked up the input parameters for b43-fwcutter.. it's the target directory. My problem was that I should have put the original files into home instead of /lib.
[10:14] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,so if run apt-get -f-broken what should i see
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:14] <hipodilski> hi guys I've upgraded my ubuntu first from 8.04 -> 8.10 and after that to 9.04
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: or sudo apt-get --fix-broken install
[10:15] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,what will that do.......apt-get -f install
[10:15] <hipodilski> I used edubuntu packages before and my gnome is edubuntunized
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: the commands are synonymous
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: read man pages, they tell you much: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
[10:15] <hipodilski> after the upgrade my button on System that said Shut Down disappeared
[10:15] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,i have broken packages
[10:15] <JyZyXEL> how do you put a bootable .iso meant for CD to USB stick?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: then you need that command
[10:15] <hipodilski> still I see some of the edubuntu gnome stuff when I login can I remove all this crap
[10:16] <hipodilski> and revert it to default gnome outlook / menus etc.?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> JyZyXEL: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/
[10:16] <rygot> ActionParsnip I find apt very undesirable. Just like not using root, one should not use apt, but aptititude. Thank you for your time.
[10:16] <JyZyXEL> ActionParsnip: no not ubuntu.iso
[10:16] <JyZyXEL> but  totally different .iso
[10:17] <nelson_> hI
[10:17] <gOLDfeesh> in the terminal when I hit "UP" it shows up as ^[[A
[10:17] <ikorin> hello )
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> rygot: i find apt very satisfactory. i also actively uninstall aptitude via script on my new installs. You will also notice a lot of the official documentation online uses apt-get. thank you for your time
[10:17] <sirGuest> I am having difficulty with my torrents. 0KB up and its only downloading one torrent. Any idea how to fix this?
[10:17] <nelson_> I would like to report a bug with wl drier on BCM4312, I don't know where to post
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> JyZyXEL: that will do any linux iso
[10:17] <nelson_> someone may tell me ?
[10:17] <JyZyXEL> ActionParsnip: its not linux iso
[10:17] <rygot> ActionParsnip aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> JyZyXEL: then you are in the wrong channel
[10:18] <JyZyXEL> no im not
[10:18] <Sidewinder1> !bug
[10:18] <rygot> Thank you for your time.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> rygot: just because it has more features doent make it better in any way
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> rygot: i have never used aptitude as apt-get does all i need
[10:19] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: that help page you gave me worked. I am on the net now. Thank you very much; you just saved me having to buy a new wifi card. :)
[10:19] <sirGuest> I am having difficulty with my torrents. 0KB up and its only downloading one torrent. Any idea how to fix this?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> rygot: and i advise users on what i am familiar wit, rather than a tool i have never used
[10:19] <nelson_> But I think Ubuntu don't care about *drivers*' bugs
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: good lad :)
[10:19] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,so i am going to run apt-get -f install..........is that right?
[10:19] <nelson_> so I want to post in a place whre my post will be read and cared
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: should be fine
[10:19] <rygot> ActionParsnip aptitude is far superior. It is not a matter of "extra features"
[10:19] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,see you later with feedback
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> rygot: ive used apt-get since gutsy and never had a single issue
[10:20] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,bye for now
[10:20] <rygot> ActionParsnip just as many women have had sex without protection but didn't get pregnant. It'll happen sooner or later
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> rygot: lets make this simple, you use aptitude and i'll use apt-get and the world will not explode
[10:20] <rygot> lol since gutsy ....
[10:20] <rygot> that long, huh?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> rygot: thats when i picked up ubuntu
[10:20] <Sidewinder1> nelson_> Bugs are reported and addressed in launchpad, referred to by ubottu, above.
[10:21] <rygot> rofl
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> rygot: ?
[10:21] <paissad-hp> hi everybody !
[10:21] <frogzoo> I thought with the new apt-get, there was basically no real difference in dependency handling?
[10:21] <Flannel> frogzoo: That's correct
[10:21] <frogzoo> ah, sweet :D
[10:22] <paissad-hp> is it possible to run an application via ssh and make that app continues running even the remote connection is closed ?
[10:22] <paissad-hp> thanks in advance for helping
[10:22] <Flannel> paissad-hp: Check out screen
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: i think screen will do it
[10:22] <Flannel> !screen | paissad-hp
[10:22] <frogzoo> paissad-hp: nohup command
[10:22] <frogzoo> actually, "nohup command &"
[10:22] <rygot> ActionParsnip ah sorry ... I've been using linux so long I was using it when apt and aptitude were both developed. You do know apt didn't start with ubuntu? Anyway, now that I know you're a newb I'll leave you to it
[10:22] <paissad-hp> frogzoo, nohup works also for ssh connections even if the connection is closed ?
[10:23] <nelson_> Sidewinder1 > So launchpad retarget bugs reports to the right development team ?
[10:23] <lexr> if I put another ide cable so I can attach another hdd, is it safe thing to do?
[10:23] <frogzoo> paissad-hp: I don't see why not
[10:23] <gOLDfeesh> Is there a way of fixing the terminal so "tab" autocompletes?
[10:23] <lexr> motherboards cable has only 2 and I need 3 places. Should I replace it?
[10:23] <Sidewinder1> nelson_> That is correct.
[10:23] <nelson_> ok thx
[10:23] <Flannel> rygot: Please ditch the attitude.
[10:23] <Sidewinder1> welks
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> rygot: ive been using linux since mandrake 7
[10:24] <matteo_> hi i am havjng problems with ubuntu 8.04 If i ear a youtube video and i try later to play a song with vlc, audacious,.. i get no sounds... Anyone may help me? I can't either set the volume...
[10:25] <rygot> Flannel I offered the sound advice that aptitude is superior to apt. That was challenged by someone with relatively little experience with the statement "it's always worked for me, so there is no problem." This is patently false. Do you challenge the notion that aptitude is superior to apt?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> rygot: you really need to get over yourself
[10:25] <rygot> ActionParsnip lol wow since mandrake 7, huh?
[10:25] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: Just drop it
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: can you help here
[10:25] <Flannel> rygot: There's no difference in the way they handle dependencies anymore.
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> thank you
[10:26] <rygot> Flannel yes, there still is. Unless you know better than both the apt and aptitude developers. I suggest you ditch the attitude and research your statements.
[10:26] <rygot> Thank you.
[10:26] <Flannel> rygot: No, there isn't.  Please drop it.
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> rygot: why is apt-get stil part of a default install of ubuntu then if its so appauling? maybe you know better than the ubuntu dev team huh?
[10:27] <Flannel> rygot: There hasn't been for a number of years now
[10:27] <rygot> Flannel yes there is. You have been told. I suggest you research what you are saying then apologize to me. Thank you for your time. I will enter into no more discussion about the matter.
[10:27] <rygot> Flannel you are wrong.
[10:31] <indus> WishingMaster: hello
[10:32] <WishingMaster> indus,hi
[10:32] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,u there>
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: sup
[10:33] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,i tried apt-get -f install
[10:33] <frogzoo> how do I find out if my kernel supports my usb modem? (zte 6273 in this case)
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: ok...
[10:34] <wathek> hello all
[10:34] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,i tried to build some dependencied but then it said 0 upgrade 0 install etc
[10:34] <wathek> I'm looking to configure a VoIP serveur which one do you recomand me ? please
[10:34] <SirJak> hola
[10:34] <indus> !voip
[10:35] <SirJak> alguien que hable español?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: ok thats great
[10:35] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, i have logged in recovery mode in grub menu,then i get an option dpkg repair
[10:36] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,it identifies 54 packages
[10:36] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,broken
[10:36] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,it gives me the option Y/N to repair/fix
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> sounds ok to me, its what the item is for i guess
[10:38] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,i selected Y to repair and starts looking for an internet connection through eth0 but i am using usb connection
[10:38] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,no lan
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: ive not used this so im no use here
[10:38] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,OMG u r my last hope
[10:39] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,i have not met any one with more knowledge than urs
[10:40] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,is there a way to configure usb conn instead of eth0?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: ive not used usb wan in ubuntu dude. do you have a list of packages that are "bad"?
[10:41] <nibbler_> frogzoo: still having problems with your modem? basically there is no need for modem-support, just for the usb2serial support. plug it and check dmesg|tail
[10:41] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,yes i do
[10:42] <frogzoo> nibbler_: I have one of these nutjob modems that have memory, so you have to jigger usb_modeswitch to disable the apparent cdrom on the device
[10:42] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,is there a command to install/repair them one by one
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: then note them down and boot normally, then you could run: sudo apt-gte --reinstall install <huge package list here>
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> apt-get sorry
[10:42] <frogzoo> nibbler_: if I could get a /dev/ttyUSB I'd be fine from there, but no
[10:43] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,do i have to put , to seperate the package names?
[10:43] <nibbler_> frogzoo: what does dmesg tell you, when plugging in the device?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: a space
[10:44] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,okay,i will get back to you with feedback
[10:44] <ikorin> what is your favorite irc client in ubuntu?
[10:44] <n8tuser> WishingMaster -> can you reboot to the older kernel?
[10:44] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,bye for now
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> ikorin: in any distro, pidgin :D
[10:44] <frogzoo> nibbler_: http://pastebin.com/d44174ccc
[10:44] <ikorin> ActionParsnip: what about console?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> ikorin: i dont use console for irc
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> !irc | ikorin
[10:45] <n8tuser> ikorin irssi or irrsi i believed, cant recall the spelling
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> ikorin: people rage about irssi
[10:45] <nibbler_> frogzoo: well, there is no serial interface detected :| what about lsusb -vvv?
[10:45] <linux_manju> irssi
[10:46] <frogzoo> nibbler_: that's why you have to use usb_modeswitch - but all the howtos don't mention this device, which is somewhat new
[10:46] <karmyt> hi
[10:47] <nibbler_> frogzoo: ahhh ok, just reading about it, never heared of that...
[10:47] <frogzoo> nibbler_: heh - you don't want to neither :)
[10:49] <goddard> i had a report on my ubuntu server
[10:50] <goddard> what does this mean?
[10:50] <goddard> checking corrupt not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables
[10:50] <karmyt> hi
[10:50] <goddard> hello
[10:50] <karmyt> may i know u?
[10:51] <goddard> huh?
[10:51] <n8tuser> !ask | karmyt
[10:51] <frogzoo> you may not
[10:51] <karmyt> ok
[10:52] <nibbler_> frogzoo: so, what is the result of you running modeswitch?
[10:52] <geneven> anyone know how to change url box font for dillo?
[10:53] <frogzoo> well, it changes bus ID from 19d2:2000 ->  19d2:0064, as reported by lsusb - not sure where to go from here, might try modprobing usb_serial?
[10:55] <nibbler_> frogzoo: what does dmesg say after modechanging?
[10:57] <indus_> dmesg | tail
[10:57] <frogzoo> nibbler_: after modprobe usbserial vendor=0x19d2 product=0x0064, I now have /dev/ttyUSB[12] so I should be good from here, thanks :)
[10:57] <nibbler_> frogzoo: well... not that i have the feeling of having helped you, but u r welcome ;-)
[10:58] <frogzoo> lol
[10:58] <indus_> what is the solution for a splitting headache
[11:00] <Cally> Hello all, I have an ATI card and ubuntu 9.04 and it's unreasonably slow. Anyone mind helping me out?
[11:00] <ikorin> Cally: try download radeon drivers from ati site
[11:01] <Cally> ikorin, ok will do bbl
[11:02] <erUSUL> !ati | Cally
[11:02] <erUSUL> Cally: do not use the drivers directly from ati/nvidia site. only do this as last resort
[11:03] <ikorin> erUSUL: why? what is wrong with them? )
[11:03] <Cally> erUSUL, what should I use?
[11:03] <can_xyz> asdas
[11:04] <ikorin> Cally: i used them and all works like a charm :)
[11:04] <joejacobs> hey guys need some help. I've downloaded the ubuntu 9.04 iso 3 times and I can never get it installed. The first time it all goes smoothly until I see a message saying something about moving my machine into a cooler room. the second time the cd is just too slow for anything to load. the third time the cd wont boot. i just went to the site, downloaded the 32-bit version and burnt it onto a cd using iso recorder on windows vista. what am i doing wrong or is
[11:04] <erUSUL> ikorin: not supported neither here or by canonical. require manual compilation everytime an update of the kernel or the graphic stack is updated. not to mention what happens when you try to upgrade the entire distribution
[11:04] <erUSUL> !worksforme | ikorin
[11:05] <ikorin> erUSUL: manual compilcation??? it is binary pkg
[11:05] <erUSUL> Cally: first try System>Admin>Hardware Drivers
[11:05] <Cally> erUSUL, I tried that already
[11:05] <erUSUL> ikorin: yes but it compiles or dlads the kernel module for the kernel you use
[11:05] <erUSUL> !envyng | Cally
[11:06] <Cally> !BinaryDriver
[11:06] <pranav> Do you know some partition manager like "partition magic" in Linux ?
[11:07] <pranav> Do you know some partition manager like "partition magic" in Linux ?
[11:07] <ikorin> yep, partition editor?
[11:07] <erUSUL> pranav: gparted
[11:07] <caguamon> parted is the best
[11:07] <caguamon> gparted is the gui for it
[11:07] <pranav> thanks guyz
[11:07] <joejacobs> anyone?
[11:08] <ikorin> joejacobs: what?
[11:08] <erUSUL> joejacobs: checked the cd's ?
[11:08] <erUSUL> !md5 | joejacobs
[11:08] <joejacobs> hey guys need some help. I've downloaded the ubuntu 9.04 iso 3 times and I can never get it installed. The first time it all goes smoothly until I see a message saying something about moving my machine into a cooler room. the second time the cd is just too slow for anything to load. the third time the cd wont boot. i just went to the site, downloaded the 32-bit version and burnt it onto a cd using iso recorder on windows vista. what am i doing wrong?
[11:08] <ikorin> erUSUL: you are crazy ))
[11:08] <Cally> Is there a list of supported ati cards?
[11:08] <joejacobs> ah thx
[11:09] <joejacobs> checked the cds its all ok
[11:09] <laclasse> joejacobs, bit worried about "I see a message saying something about moving my machine into a cooler room"
[11:09] <hoover> joejacobs: sounds like a bad burner
[11:09] <ikorin> joejacobs: try dvd version
[11:09] <hoover> did you create all those cd's using the same drive?
[11:09] <nibbler_> joejacobs: try alternate installer disk!
[11:09] <laclasse> joejacobs, is the machine overheating?
[11:09] <joejacobs> laclasse: nope i've made sure it isnt
[11:10] <joejacobs> nibbler_: ok will do
[11:10] <laclasse> joejacobs, as nibbler says, when all fails, try the alternate installer
[11:10] <joejacobs> ok thx guys will try that
[11:10] <chalcedony> i have a sata drive (new) with my data transferred to it, i need to install grub on it so the computer can boot with it. How do i do that?
[11:10] <nibbler_> alternate isntaller is better anyway, as it supports encrypted / in contrary to the normal one
[11:10] <geneven> joejacobs you may be able to make your machine cooler by changing fan speed in cmos, maybe the other probs are associated with that
[11:10] <hoover> or try opening the case
[11:11] <joejacobs> it's a notebook if that makes any diff
[11:11] <joejacobs> i'll try the alternate installer n see how it goes
[11:11] <joejacobs> thxx
[11:11] <laclasse> chalcedony, you need to chroot into the new system drive and run grub-install from there
[11:11] <nibbler_> joejacobs: good luck
[11:11] <blip-> hi all, I want to try Lubuntu, on the wikipedia page it says there is a LiveCD of 9.10b14 lubuntu but I can't find it online.  any ideas ?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[11:11] <ikorin> guys how old are you?
[11:11] <nibbler_> 30
[11:11] <ikorin> wow )
[11:12] <ikorin> nibbler_: location?
[11:12] <nibbler_> ikorin: munich
[11:12] <chalcedony> ikonia, i'm a 55 yo grandmother
[11:13] <ikorin> nibbler_: Germany, cool )
[11:13] <laclasse> chalcedony, hehe hello, long time no see (La_Classe from nixhelp/cj)
[11:13] <chalcedony> oh kewl!!
[11:13] <chalcedony> ((((( laclasse  ))))))))
[11:13] <jussi01> !ot | ikorin
[11:13] <chalcedony> great to see you
[11:13] <laclasse> chalcedony, :) here are some basic steps: http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/divukman-203269/2005/12/14/switch-to-new-hard-drive-41/
[11:13] <laclasse> chalcedony, same here :)
[11:13] <ikorin> sorry )
[11:13] <ikonia> chalcedony: pardon ?
[11:14] <chalcedony> laclasse, ive spent 4 days trying to get it to see the drive. i'm so tired of it
[11:14] <Doinkfasa> oooooh
[11:14] <chalcedony> ikonia, my son is one of the original linpeople who created debian
[11:14] <laclasse> chalcedony, its not the most straightforward thing to do :|
[11:14] <ikonia> chalcedony: ok - you do know this is ubuntu support channel, and that has no relevence in here
[11:14] <chalcedony> laclasse, the black screen with the little - blinking .. blech
[11:14] <frogzoo1> chalcedony: so get your son to do it :)
[11:15] <chalcedony> frogzoo1, he grew up got jobs .. moved to texas
[11:15] <kuttappan> What do you feel most good about the latest jaunty release?
[11:15] <frogzoo1> chalcedony: oh noes...
[11:15] <ikonia> guys - just a gentle nudge, the topic of this channel is ubuntu support discussion only
[11:15] <matteo_> anyone may help me with an audio problem in 8.04, i can't low the volume
[11:16] <kuttappan> matteo_, pls describe the situation
[11:17] <matteo_> if i try to low th volume from the up-right corner of the screen it doesn't go down...
[11:17] <chalcedony> frogzoo1, you find out how *interesting* everything is .. when the one who does things .. vanishes
[11:17] <kuttappan> any idea about which is your soundcard?
[11:18] <kuttappan> or, just name the motherboard
[11:18] <ikonia> chalcedony: please stop now, I've reminded you of the topic 3 times now
[11:19] <caguamon> Just to make sure I don't end up mashing some setting, is the easiest way to down 1 of my 2 wireless interfaces just to "sudo ifconfig wlan666 down" from a terminal
 <ikonia> .. funny they look similar
[11:19] <seva1> Greetings to everybody.
[11:19] <seva1> Does anyone have some experience of using bin9 dns server? The problem is that I cannot locate configuration files (named.conf or so) having bind9 manually compiled. What am I doing wrong?
[11:19] <Flannel> chalcedony: Is there something we can help you with today?
[11:19] <ikonia> chalcedony: easy nick to mistake, it's not a problem, just please try to keep to the ubuntu support discussion topic
[11:20] <ikonia> seva1: why did you compile it ? ubuntu has a version packaged for you
[11:20] <chalcedony> Flannel, very nice to see you :)
[11:20] <Cally> can someone help me with an ati driver thing please?
[11:20] <chalcedony> Flannel, ive spent 4 days trying to get my mailserver to see the drive.
[11:21] <onno> om
[11:21] <chalcedony> Flannel, it doesn't the super grub cd i have might be old? is there another better way?
[11:22] <ikonia> chalcedony: can you give a high level expliation of the problem please
[11:22] <coz_> hey guys  I have a question... I am on ubuntu  with scsi drives ..on the last several versions of ubuntu ..when booting in..it drops to  initramfs  at which point I have to  type "exit"  so that it boots...I know I can go into /boot/grub/menu.lst  and add rootdelay-40  to the kernel stanza   ..this opten dsables a applications I use to change  that file via gui ...my question is there an alternative to adding this line ?
[11:22] <coz_> rather  rootdelay=40
[11:22] <coz_> and also what exactly am I doing with this line?
[11:23] <erUSUL> coz_: you are making the kernel wait longer for the root fs to become aviable
[11:23] <seva1>  ikonia: i decided to compile it because I noticed that apache2 configuration file was split in many parts in packaged version, so I was not sure I would properly understand the guide I found in the web
[11:23] <erUSUL> coz_: probably initalicing the your scsi disks takes longer than expected for some reason
[11:24] <coz_> erUSUL,  ok and is there an alternative to this or perhaps a different delay number
[11:24] <chalcedony> Flannel, he had me get that,   http://download.linux-live-cd.org/Super_Grub_Disk/download/binaries/sgd/cdrom/super_grub_disk_0.9795.iso told me to reboot and do things.. but it won't boot to the drive. my friend tried with a gentoo live cd.. it can see the drive but not afterward, if i reboot.
[11:24] <mats> hi! can someone help me change regdomain and countrycode on madwifi?
[11:24] <chalcedony> ikonia, see above post to Flannel
[11:24] <erUSUL> coz_: where do you add that line ? tried in the "defoptions" line ?
[11:25] <chalcedony> Flannel, ikonia he = my son (sorry i'm so tired)
[11:25] <ikonia> seva1: how as does the apache config file relate to the bind9 version in the repo ?
[11:25] <ikonia> seva1: if you are going to build your own software you should know how to manage the config file
[11:26] <ikonia> chalcedony: what is the actual fault you have with your system
[11:26] <Hansard_> is there any way for a website to have access to the username of the person logged in?
[11:26] <coz_> erUSUL,  in the /boot/grub/menu.lst  in the kernel stanza
[11:26] <Hansard_> wondering if it's a security or privacy issue to have your username as your full name
[11:27] <hoover> Hansard_: only if basic auth is enabled on the webserver
[11:27] <erUSUL> coz_: try in the defconf line that maybe makes your gui app happier
[11:27] <hoover> Hansard_: and no, this won't usually be your unix login
[11:27] <seva1> when I manually compiled apache, there was one httpd.conf file with all settings, so I thought there is the same with bind9
[11:27] <erUSUL> coz_: then run « sudo update-grub »
[11:27] <Hansard_> ok thanks hoover
[11:27] <ikonia> seva1: there is only one named.conf file in the ubuntu packaged version
[11:28] <coz_> erUSUL,  the same  rootdelay=40  in the defoptions line itself/
[11:28] <ikonia> seva1: you can still make your own config file, however #bind may be a better place for your custom build support
[11:28] <erUSUL> coz_: yep just before the quiet and splash options already there
[11:28] <coz_> erUSUL,   ok I will give that a whirl   here now  and check its effects ..thanks :)
[11:29] <chalcedony> ikonia, it can't boot to the drive.  it said control z to key into user window,  it shows info about the raid and the drive. but if i had not hit conrol z for user screen.. it would be a black screen with a blinking - in the top left corner.
[11:29] <erUSUL> coz_: the line woul look « # defoptions=quiet splash rootdelay=40 » (note that you have to keep the # )
[11:29] <seva1> ikonia: thanks for the advice
[11:29] <ikonia> chalcedony: so a disk in your raid array has failed yes/no ?
[11:29] <coz_> erUSUL,   got it thanks again :)  will test it shortly
[11:30] <kuttappan> Somebody please help: I registered my IRC nickname on NICKSERV, but now when i try to use that nickname, it says it's already taken....any idea how to log on witrh my registered nick?
[11:30] <ikonia> kuttappan: ask in #freenode
[11:30] <kuttappan> thank you ikonia
[11:31] <[Spooky]> How do i enable DHT in transmission?
[11:31] <chalcedony> ikonia, i do not have a raid. i have a PCI SATA+PATA RAID card, in an EIDE only computer, so it can see my sata drive.
[11:31] <Hansard_> oh crap... I updated my system and now my wireless has stopped working again
[11:32]  * chalcedony pats Hansard_ gently
[11:32] <ikonia> chalcedony: ok so what disk can't you see ?
[11:32] <chalcedony> ikonia, it can't see the sata drive .
[11:32] <Hansard_> damn you update manager!!
[11:33] <ikonia> chalcedony: ok has this disk ever worked ?
[11:34] <chalcedony> ikonia, the drive was in my box when my son transferred the data from the failing eide drive to it.. and then we got the adapter card and tried to get it to work in the mailserver box.. so far.. it can only be seen with a live cd.
[11:34] <Misantropo> y have a Phusion Passenger problem: "The application spawner server exited unexpectedly: Unexpected end-of-file detected." 	Can't get why this is happening.
[11:34] <Tukson> Willkomt bruderz
[11:34] <Hansard_> action appears to have left... he gave me this to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and it worked and then I updated my system and rebooted and the wireless has stopped working again... can anyone suggest anything please?
[11:34] <ikonia> chalcedony: so you can see the disk when you boot into the livecd, but you can't see the disk from your system ?
[11:35] <chalcedony> ikonia, yes it was giving a failure error.. and now the black screen with the flashing _
[11:35] <Tukson> TrOllz?
[11:35] <ikonia> chalcedony: does the machine boot ?
[11:35] <ikonia> Tukson: pardon ?
[11:36] <chalcedony> ikonia, how do you mean ?
[11:36] <coz_> erUSUL,   well that had no effect at all :)
[11:36] <Tukson> ikonia: Can I help you?
[11:36] <ikonia> chalcedony: is your operating system on this disk, and does the operating system boot
[11:36] <ikonia> Tukson: you just said "TrOllz?" -
[11:37] <Tukson> yes, I said brotha
[11:37] <padi999> hey
[11:37] <chalcedony> ikonia, i think thats what the supergrub cd was supposed to have accomplished. the old drive had ubuntu 8.04 on it .. nothing actually boots but the live cd (gentoo) at this point
[11:37] <padi999> What ports need I forward for ctorrent to work with a router/firewall between lan and wan sides?
[11:37] <ikonia> chalcedony: ok so you can't boot from your pci sata card - is that right ?
[11:37] <chalcedony> Tukson, are you insuating that i'm trolling?
[11:38] <chalcedony> ikonia, yes
[11:38] <padi999> It seems that other clients work here, but ctorrent not
[11:38] <david_> hey anyone have the issue of the Internet connection dying after a suspend?
[11:38] <Tukson> just for example the test for my keyboard
[11:38] <chalcedony> insinuating even
[11:38] <ikonia> chalcedony: ok so does your board allow you to boot from that card in the bios
[11:39] <ikonia> chalcedony: it's clear the card/disk are working as you can see them in the livecd, but if your motherboard won't allow you to boot from that card, there is no fix that will sort it
[11:39] <Hansard_> anyone know how to roll back an update? I need to get my wireless working again
[11:39] <chalcedony> ikonia, ok then i can give up and transfer the data to the new eide drive i bought ?
[11:40] <chalcedony> ((((( ActionParsnip )))))))
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> sup
[11:40] <ikonia> chalcedony: if your board supports booting off that - that seems a good idea
[11:40] <chalcedony> Hansard_, don't do that let ActionParsnip help you get your wireless working
[11:40] <Tukson> the Gubuttu linuks 18.1 - Hormonal  Penguin release candidate edition when will starting?
[11:40] <Hansard_> oh thank god he's back
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> ?
[11:40] <Hansard_> good idea chalcedony
[11:40] <chalcedony> :)
[11:41] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I updated all my programs with update manager, it asked for a reboot, I rebooted and now my wireless is broken again.
[11:41] <chalcedony> ikonia, the drive is in the box, what do i need to do to transfer the data besides plugiging the eide connector and power connector in?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: did you get a new kernel?
[11:41] <Hansard_> I was running fresh from the current 9.1 iso.
[11:41] <paco_the_taco> i love uubntu.
[11:42] <ikonia> chalcedony: mount the two disks and copy the data
[11:42] <ikonia> paco_the_taco: ok - thats nice, however keep in mind this channel is for support discussion only
[11:42] <CoUrPsE> Anyone know where i can get a wmp9 codec? rhythmbox is moaning at me all the time, :/
[11:42] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: no, pretty sure it just updated programs, not the kernel.
[11:42] <ikonia> !codec > CoUrPsE
[11:42] <padi999> ctorrent doesn't connect behind a router-firewall but ktorrent does, what is the difference here?
[11:42] <Jaco> Ok guys a simple question from me...
[11:42] <CoUrPsE> Danke.
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: then i'd just reinstall it as if it never worked
[11:42] <ikonia> padi999: I'd guess ports ?
[11:42] <GingerBrigham1> hi all, new to ubuntu.  anyone free for a private chat, i need big help lol
[11:42] <freeloader> Hello, how can I have the full path rather than jus the ~ on the terminal?
[11:42] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: oh ok
[11:43] <ikonia> GingerBrigham1: ask the channel your question
[11:43] <Jaco> How do I change my DHCP IP on ETH0 to a static IP on Ubuntu 9.04 Server using command line?
[11:43] <ikonia> freeloader: look into "PS1"
[11:43] <padi999> ikonia: but the router doesn't forward any ports specifically
[11:43] <ikonia> Jaco: depends if you are using gnome desktops network manager applet
[11:43] <ikonia> padi999: firewall blocking ?
[11:43] <Jaco> No, it's command line only
[11:43] <freeloader> ikonia: I have /w in PS1...
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: you can use network manager or you can put the data in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:43] <ikonia> Jaco: look at /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: then you must use /etc/network/interfaces
[11:44] <GingerBrigham1> just installed and got internet connection.  trying to get updates but it says i've no room on my hdd!!!  tried to open gparted but says i don't have privilege to open it?
[11:44] <ikonia> freeloader: so that shows present working directory
[11:44] <padi999> ikonia: I checked with wireshark, ktorrent uses a lot of ports between rougly 38000 and 55000
[11:44] <udssr_shorty> Hey guys! Does someone know how to make the "Select pattern" command in nautilus case INsensitive?
[11:44] <ikonia> padi999: that makes sense
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces      then read this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[11:44] <chalcedony> ikonia, my BIOS appears to be seeing the drive (and to do so, must see the card as well) , no?
[11:44] <freeloader> ikonia: it does, but as ~ instead of /home/USER
[11:44] <ikonia> chalcedony: that doesn't mean you can boot for it
[11:44] <CoUrPsE> Ahh, i have restricted-extras on already. how can i find the codec to install thou?
[11:44]  * chalcedony smiles
[11:44] <ikonia> freeloader: ahhh ~ is the symbol for home
[11:45] <ikonia> freeloader: change it to PS1=`pwd`
[11:45] <padi999> ikonia: no blocking specifically, I mean, I thought it could be a port-forwarding thing, but then why would it work with ktorrent but not with ctorrent
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | CoUrPsE
[11:45] <ikonia> padi999: yes, that is confusing
[11:45] <Jaco> Is there a command line version of the network manager or something I can install to make the process a little less hairy for a beginner...?
[11:45] <CoUrPsE> Yeah. ikonia just told me that.
[11:45] <ikonia> Jaco: use the gui then
[11:45] <CoUrPsE> But it only tells me to install *-extras
[11:45] <CoUrPsE> And i already have.,
[11:45] <ikonia> Jaco: that's why there is a gui, if you need a gui use it, if you want to use the command line, use it, but a command line gui - what's the point
[11:46] <freeloader> ikonia: I tried that, but for some reason it would only display the /home/USER once, and when i change directory, it sticks with /home/USER
[11:46] <Jaco> I installed the 64bit version of Ubuntu Server 9.04 so I don't know if there is a GUI available?
[11:46] <chalcedony> ikonia, can you elaborate on this ? my helper guy wants to keep pursuing it
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: then you have a tonne of codecs installed, extras is a metapackage whih installs other packages to give you stuff
[11:46] <ikonia> chalcedony: if your bios can see the disk, that's great, it doesn't mean you bios can boot from that disk on the external card
[11:46] <Jaco> It starts up straight into the command line
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: if you read the guide, its not hard at all
[11:46] <ikonia> Jaco: install ubuntu-desktop package and you'll get a gui
[11:46] <Jaco> I need the server
[11:47] <ikonia> Jaco: /etc/network/interfaces is just a text file so it should be quite easy to use
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: ifyou want a gui, why did you install server?
[11:47] <ikonia> Jaco: why do you need the server install, the desktop install makes an excellent server
[11:47] <manu_zacharia> Hi All, I created a custom live CD using remastersys and when I boot, the GRUB displays the custom distro name that I gave during the remastersys configuration. However, when i install the disto to HDD using ubiquity, the grub menu changes back to Ubuntu. May I know where is the configuration, so that after install also, the menu displays the custom name
[11:47] <manous> hi,is there any tool to create chm file under linux?
[11:47] <CoUrPsE> :/ rhythmbox keeps poppping up saying i aint got a windows media player 9 codec, and it does this for bowt 20 times each time i boot it, It also doesnt tell me the files that its having probs with either, so i donno what to delete, and i cant find a install of the wmp9 codec, :/
[11:47] <zxd> is there a way to block firefox  from browsing local files file://
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: the whole point of the server is not to have a gui
[11:47] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I reinstalled it as per the instructions and it didn't work.
[11:47] <Jaco> Everything is working as it should I just need to change the IP now
[11:47] <shosei> test
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> jaco: servers dont have guis for security and to reduce ram used on the system
[11:47] <ikonia> shosei: pass
[11:47] <GingerBrigham1> how do i get more disk space?  i've installed 9.04 (64) as dual-boot with vista and it only gave me a small space, even though i've got a 320gb drive?
[11:47] <Jaco> I checked the interfaces file but there's very little info in there
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> jaco: edit /etc/network/interfaces using that file, its childishly simple
[11:48] <Jaco> just auto eth0
[11:48] <ikonia> Jaco:
[11:48] <chalcedony> ikonia, so installing a new grub tarball won't fix it ?
[11:48] <ikonia> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/ja
[11:48] <Jaco> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:48] <ikonia> chalcedony: no
[11:48] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> jaco: thats the whole point, you need to flesh it out yourself
[11:48] <zxd> is it just me or firefox 3.5 in ubuntu dosen't have google search engine
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: if yo uwant to set the ip on eth0 you need to change that to: iface eth0 inet static
[11:49] <Jaco> How would I know what to type in?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> jaco: then you use the guide to ADD lines to suit your network.
[11:49] <Jaco> Where can I find that guide?
[11:49] <dantonic> hi I'm running 9.04, after a suspend I completely lose network connectivity, and am unable to restart it unless I reboot.  Anyone have the same problem or know of a solution?
[11:49] <hoover> cheers all
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: if you want to use static IP you MUST know the address, subnet mask and default gateway for the system
[11:49] <ikonia> Jaco: I've just given you a url with a guide in
[11:49] <Jaco> I've got all the static IP details including DNS addresses
[11:49] <caguamon> Not to mention any nameservers hhe might want to use
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> jaco: great, dns addresses go in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:50] <ikonia> Jaco: check the guide I just sent you - it explains it
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> jaco: and need prefixing with nameserver
[11:50] <ankur> how to reconfigure all settings in ubuntu...
[11:50] <Jaco> I'm checking it... think I should be ok now
[11:50] <Jaco> Thanks for the help everyone
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: if you want a server then do not install X or gnome or kde or anything
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> like that
[11:51] <ankur> dpkg-reconfigure -a not working even in the single user mode...
[11:51] <Jaco> Yes, so far those aren't installed
[11:51] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: reinstall didn't help.
[11:51] <nibbler_> ankur: nopate the output
[11:51] <GingerBrigham1> trying to update and getting error message, "need more disk space" ??  anyone help?
[11:52] <nibbler_> GingerBrigham1: your harddisk is full
[11:52] <aLeSD> hi all
[11:52] <aLeSD> is it possible to ptogram in flash under linux ?
[11:52] <ankur> nibbler: invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm "reload" failed
[11:52] <GingerBrigham1> ha ha, yes, i've got a dual boot with vista, got a 320gb hdd so plenty of room, just don't know how to increase for ubuntu
[11:52] <cast> aLeSD: anything is possiible, but i can't recommend it
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: ok then read through     dmesg | less     and you will be able to diagnose
[11:53] <aLeSD> cast: you mean that macromedia doesn't support linux  ?
[11:53] <Hansard_> GingerBrigham1: apt-get install gparted
[11:53] <ankur> this is the first time i am facing a problem in ubuntu...
[11:54] <GingerBrigham1> hansard_: did that but it says i don't have rights to use gparted
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> GingerBrigham1: you could put a folder on the ntfs partition and put data in there, using the ntfs space
[11:54] <Hansard_> GingerBrigham1: sudo
[11:54] <mats> hi. can someone help me change regdomain on atheros?
[11:54] <Ek1x> sudo is a grate command
[11:54] <Ek1x> guys
[11:55] <GingerBrigham1> hansard_: i'm new to this, so not sure what to do!
[11:55] <ankur> any other method may be using live cd...?
[11:55] <caguamon> Is there simply no support for 802.11n speeds in Linux?
[11:55] <ikonia> caguamon: some intel cards have it, but it's limited/early days
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> caguamon: i'm sure some devices will support it
[11:56] <indus_> hi
[11:56] <Tukson> The genttoo linuks better than ubuttu?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> caguamon: if you are only browsing the web with it you will notice very little difference with n. If you transfer files between systems then you will see it
[11:56] <ikonia> Tukson: personal opinion - try them see what you like
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Tukson: there is no better or best
[11:56] <InDuS> UBUNTU is best
[11:56] <caguamon> Its more for the distance
[11:57] <ikonia> InDuS: no - it's personal opinion
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Tukson: essentially its the same OS, Linux
[11:57] <Tukson> better , because hungarian support channel equals with ten tons shit of TUX
[11:57] <ikonia> Tukson: please control your language, no swearing
[11:57] <InDuS> ya personal opinion for majority users?
[11:57] <InDuS> nvm
[11:57] <ikonia> InDuS: no - you don't know that
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: doesnt make it right, most PC users use windows, doesnt make it the best OS does it
[11:58] <GingerBrigham1> ah, got gparted to work now.  cheers hansard_
[11:58] <Tukson> the hungarian ubuntu support channel : time for nothing
[11:58] <InDuS> ikonia: well its statistics which say ubuntu is most popular isnt it
[11:58] <ikonia> InDuS: no
[11:58] <ankur> somebody help i really don't want to reinstall...i have many active servers running on it...
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: i'd shoot for redhat personally
[11:58] <InDuS> it doenst?
[11:58] <ikonia> Tukson: non-mainstream languages don't have as strong support in Linux, it's the larger languages which sadley get the better/more full support
[11:58] <InDuS> distrowatch says ubuntu is 1?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> ankur: wassup?
[11:58] <ikonia> InDuS: distrowatch is not fact
[11:59] <freeloader> can't I write something like this: \`STATUS=$?;\` inside PS1?
[11:59] <InDuS> ikonia: then which one is
[11:59] <ikonia> none
[11:59] <ikonia> InDuS: it's personal opinion
[11:59] <InDuS> ikonia: other popular sites reviewing ubuntu over other distros
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: there s no way of knowing as there is no purchased license
[11:59] <ankur> nothing is fine...
[11:59] <InDuS> i prefer windows 7 though
[11:59] <ikonia> InDuS: use what works best for you
[11:59] <caguamon> Where do I config the settings for the wireless device, I see all the pretty GUI config in NetworkManager for IP stuff, but no device level stuff
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: 1 user may download the ISO 400 times but it would still be 1 user so there is no way of really counting
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> ankur: care to expand?
[12:00] <Tukson> ikonia the holyness brotha: in #ubuntu-hu not  possible to correct problems solving. the mens talking about bycicle...
[12:00] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: what am I looking for? I can't see b43 anywhere in the output from that
[12:00] <ikonia> Tukson: I'm really sorry, I don't understand what you're ssaying
[12:00] <InDuS> !info bicycle
[12:00] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: the reverse is also true one iso dled can be installed (copied) in 400 computers ;P
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: is there a way to uninstall the b43 thing, ten you can reinstall it
[12:00] <InDuS> forgot package name
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: good point
[12:02] <InDuS> ubuntu according to canonical is most popular distro too u know
[12:02] <Tukson> ikonia: the small talk is proceeding about the cycling on the channel not Linux the topic! it is true really!
[12:02] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: not in synaptic and can't find any reference to an uninstall on google
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: try: dpkg -l | grep cutter
[12:03] <ikonia> Tukson: the topic of this channel is ubuntu support
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: popular doesnt mean best, in any way shape or form
[12:03] <manu_zacharia> Hi All, I created a custom live CD using remastersys and when I boot, the GRUB displays the custom distro name that I gave during the remastersys configuration. However, when i install the disto to HDD using ubiquity, the grub menu changes back to Ubuntu. May I know where is the configuration, so that after install also, the menu displays the custom name
[12:03] <Tukson> ikonia: I talked about #ubuntu-hu
[12:03] <InDuS> ActionParsnip:so what does it mean then
[12:03] <ankur> i am unable to start any xserver services...else every thing working fine...
[12:03] <ikonia> Tukson: I don't know anything about that channel
[12:04] <Tukson> ikonia: #ubuntu-hu = Official Hungarian Ubuntu linux support channel
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: it means a lot of people either find it suits their needs, or are completely ignorant to alternatives
[12:04] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: did that remove it or you need the output?
[12:04] <hickop> Hi , I need to know , does ubuntu used patches with xorg-server 1.6.0 please ?
[12:05] <ankur> i have tried to dpkg-reconfigure but. its giving message  nibbler: invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm "reload" failed
[12:05] <ikonia> hickop: I believe there are some patches applied, download the source package and check them
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: if some / one of the packags looks related to the firmware cutter, uninstall it
[12:05] <InDuS> ActionParsnip: so since most people think or have similar needs, it makes that product the best by popularity
[12:05] <aLeSD> hi .. I have an amd phenom X4 and I'd like to virtualize another OS on my ubuntu . What I have to use ?
[12:05] <hickop> ikonia: where can i get the ubuntu source please ?
[12:06] <ikonia> InDuS: no - its not, lets stop talking about it in here please
[12:06] <aLeSD> hickop: ubuntu source ?
[12:06] <ikonia> hickop: apt-get source $package_name
[12:06] <InDuS> ikonia: ok stopped
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: no, it is only best to the people that think it suits their needs best. "best" is an evaluation of something to the requirements of the something. If a different something (in your opinion and after analysing) can perform the task better, then the first thing ceases to be best
[12:06] <InDuS> when is next LTS
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: 10.04
[12:07] <hickop> ikonia: i mean i dont actually have ubuntu , i used it before and the xorg-server was working , but now with the source from xorg its not
[12:07] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: says that it's a utility for extracting the firmware to the /lib/firmware folder
[12:07] <ikonia> hickop: xorg source is supported in #xorg
[12:07] <aLeSD> help
[12:07] <InDuS> i heard they might push it to 10.10 for gnome 3 but nvm off topic
[12:07] <aLeSD> I will install virt-manager
[12:07] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: should I remove the folders from /lib/firmware instead?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: if there is a package then uninstall it, if there are files you have placed then rename or move them
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: i dont recommend deleting until you have the goal
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: less destructive
[12:08] <hickop> ikonia: but ubuntu patches arent
[12:08] <Hansard_> is there any way to look at the currently loaded mods to see what is actually the problem?
[12:08] <ikonia> hickop: but you're not using ubuntu patches
[12:08] <ikonia> hickop: you said the source from xorg, that contains no ubuntu patches
[12:08] <hickop> ikonia: no , and i need them
[12:08] <torn> Is there any way to use a site that uses Oracle Jinitiator? For example: gorms.compass-usa.com   In Firefox, it says I needed a plugin, which is available for Windows only. I tried with Wine and Playonlinux, but neither worked. I heard there is a way to trick Firefox into using Java which will work?
[12:08] <kos> Where can I get the src of the GNU reglx?
[12:08] <bernardlychan> hey guyz... anyone know a good album art finder for itunes? i only have the songnames and artists, i don't have the album info.
[12:09] <ikonia> hickop: got to the ubuntu repos then and download the source debs
[12:09] <ikonia> bernardlychan: itunes is not an ubuntu product, it's not supported in here
[12:09] <bernardlychan> :(
[12:09] <bernardlychan> anyone else know?
[12:09] <InDuS> if source repos is selected, you can download source too i suppose
[12:09] <ikonia> bernardlychan: what part of "not supported" did I not make clear ?
[12:09] <bernardlychan> sigh
[12:09] <bernardlychan> yes madam
[12:09] <bernardlychan> goodbye madam
[12:09] <rww> !apple | bernardlychan
[12:10] <bernardlychan> sweet ty rww
[12:10] <MenZa> bernardlychan: Please don't. This is strictly for Ubuntu support. Try ##apple
[12:10] <bernardlychan> man u r very helpful sir
[12:10] <bernardlychan> MenZa... nice!! ty very much!! another helpful sir
[12:10] <ankur> anyone there to help me...
[12:10] <kos> bernardlychan:HI, Where can I get the src of the GNU reglx?
[12:10] <drygrain> lol
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> ankur: i havent seen your issue
[12:11] <Aayush> can any one help in this problem http://pastebin.com/m4c24ca02
[12:11] <bernardlychan> ankur, hmm, wat do u mean?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> ankur: ok found it, let me websearch
[12:11] <ankur> ActionParsnip: dpkg-reconfigure -a not working even in the single user mode...
[12:11] <InDuS> Aayush: that question can be directly posted here
[12:12] <ankur> ActionParsnip: i have tried to dpkg-reconfigure but. its giving message  invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm "reload" failed
[12:12] <torn> Does anyone have any idea about getting Jinitiator working?
[12:12] <ankur> ActionParsnip: i have searched a lot they all say to dpkg-reconfigure
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> ankur: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[12:13]  * bernardlychan sees ikonia in a mini skirt and thinks she is cute
[12:13] <bernardlychan> cya ikonia
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> ankur: and use kdm, instead
[12:13] <nubae|work> #sugar
[12:13] <ankur> ActonParsnip: i dont have kdm
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> ankur: install it
[12:14] <ankur> ActionParsnip: i have xdm and i also tried to load it...it too giving the same error
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> ankur: try: sudo apt-get --purge remove gdm; sudo apt-get install gdm
[12:15] <DigitalDarkness> Anyone here know of "easy" way to configure your monitor from cli. I am on a eMac and xorgs not even configures my display.
[12:15] <DigitalDarkness> *configured
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> DigitalDarkness: start with: sudo lshw -C display | grep product
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> DigitalDarkness: you can then configure the video card
[12:16] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: hmmm I did lsmod and ndiswrapper is still running for some reason even though I rmmod it. What would happen if I ran sudo rm *ndiswrapper*
[12:16] <ankur> ActionParsnip: can i " sodo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg" and then install it
[12:16] <Tritaris> for some reason on my laptop the sound only comes through the headphones and not the built in speakers. is there some way to switch the output?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> ankur: its sudo , not sodo
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> ankur: i guess you could, bit drastic
[12:17] <Aayush> i have ubuntu host with ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:17] <Aayush> i installed xp guest , with bridging, and ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:17] <Aayush> they both cant ping each other what could be the problem ?
[12:17] <DigitalDarkness> Many thanks Action, I will try.. ty
[12:17] <DigitalDarkness> exit
[12:17] <CoUrPsE> Anyone use vritualbox and could help me out?
[12:17] <ankur> ActionParsnip : ok i am going to try it ...thank you...
[12:18] <Blizzerand> CoUrPsE : I think I could
[12:18] <CoUrPsE> Can i pm you since its a lil' unrelated?
[12:19] <Blizzerand> CoUrPsE : But if you post it here , all those who are live may also be able to help which is  a good thing
[12:19] <CoUrPsE> Spose, anyways, i have winxp on the virtualbox, But i cant install ati drivers.
[12:22] <Blizzerand> CoUrPsE : I think I found another channel which you would find more helpful , #vbox
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: you dont install ati drivers in vbox
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: in the top menu of the desktop in xp click devices -> install guest additions
[12:24] <CoUrPsE> Umm. k, I need some driver, only reason why im running it so i can play a few games.
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: games will run prett badly
[12:25] <Tritaris> for some reason on my laptop the sound only comes through the headphones and not the built in speakers. is there some way to switch the output?
[12:25] <jems> what type of laptop
[12:25] <Tritaris> hp dv4-1225dx
[12:26] <jems> download the latest alsa drivers and install
[12:28] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: still can't get it to work
[12:28] <jems> Hp dvx has several issues with jaunty but I've now got every thing working
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: then i'm all out
[12:28] <Hansard_> damn it, I need your magic
[12:28] <manu_zacharia> where can i find the configuration file for ubiquity
[12:29] <Hansard_> what commands can bring up some diagnostic information?
[12:29] <Tritaris> thnx i'll give that a try
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: dmesg is good
[12:29] <archman> erUSUL: it was my screensaver that caused the screen blanking, i dunno why it changed itself...
[12:29] <CoUrPsE> ActionParsnip, Aight, well i still wanna see how it goes, I still dont have any hardware acceleration thou, :/
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: if you are using the fimware cutter, uninstall ndiswrapper
[12:29] <CoUrPsE> I did that guest additions stuff.
[12:29] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I did
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: vbox gives an api to the hardware, its not really great for gaming at all, the guest addtions will help
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: i suggest you look at wine or see if the gamemaker has released a linux installer or see if there is a loki installer for it
[12:30] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: it says that the package has been removed. But when I locate ndiswrapper there are plenty of files. Should I manually delete them?
[12:30] <CoUrPsE> Aight. Thanks ActionParsnip.
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper; sudo apt-get --purge remove ndiswrapper
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: i dont think its fully removed
[12:31] <Blizzerand> I keep getting this error when I try to rezise my volume:
[12:32] <archman> my sound is muted every time when ubuntu starts. any solutions?
[12:32] <cast> don't restart
[12:32] <Hansard_> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[12:32] <karakh> lol
[12:32] <Hansard_> can't reinstall it
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> !find ndiswrapper
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: just reinstall all the ndiswrapper stuff, then use --purge when you remove it
[12:34] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I had to add -common. Got it now.
[12:34] <Hansard_> thanks Dr_Willis
[12:34] <Blizzerand> http://pastebin.com/m58acf12b
[12:34] <Blizzerand> help please
[12:36] <cast> Blizzerand: your main problem is a failure to articulate your problem in words
[12:36] <indus> cast: that paste says it all
[12:36] <indus> Blizzerand: its good enough
[12:37] <indus> Blizzerand: you could also paste a small intro message like 'stuck with lvm' partitions etc in channel
[12:37] <sea-gull> where can I find crt0.o on Ubuntu?
[12:37] <cast> indus: it's rude.
[12:37] <smooch1502> lol
[12:37] <smooch1502> hi
[12:37] <indus> cast: maybe
[12:37] <FinnTux> how to get support for sftp in quant (ubuntu 9.04)
[12:37] <smooch1502> !rules
[12:37] <Blizzerand> cast : can you please explain
[12:38] <smooch1502> !help
[12:38] <smooch1502> :) thanks ubottu
[12:38] <FinnTux> err quanta
[12:38] <[Spooky]> Is there a way to check when i installed Linux?
[12:39] <indus> check what
[12:39] <cast> Blizzerand: you're asking for help, but can't be bothered formulating a question, you did pastebin some info which is good - though no one knows what your problem is till they follow your link and open a browser, which is a bit of work - only to find out that they don't know the answer to your particular issue
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> [Spooky]: you could chec the created time of ~/.bashrc maybe
[12:40] <indus> Blizzerand: yes cast is correct, its good logic to paste a question cos just clicking a link to read the problem is a little annoying
[12:40] <cast> [Spooky]: i do a ls -l /etc|less and guess
[12:40] <indus> Blizzerand: just a tip to help you get support in the channel :)
[12:41] <Blizzerand> cast , indus: I had posted the question a few posts above . Anyway it was *I keep getting this error when I try to rezise my volume:*
[12:41] <cast> ActionParsnip: there is a creation time?
[12:42] <indus> Blizzerand: just post again once more someone might know answer
[12:42] <indus> ActionParsnip:  you know anything about lvm :)
[12:42] <cast> Blizzerand: ahh, i missed that. good ol high traffic channels :\
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> cast: not sure, you'll be looking at stuff like that
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> indus: zero
[12:42] <cast> ActionParsnip: there is no creation time :)
[12:43] <indus> !lvm
[12:43] <Blizzerand> indus : I did . I donot quite much support triple posting
[12:43] <indus> Blizzerand: ok np
[12:43] <Hitman32> أه
[12:43] <Hitman32> Hi
[12:44] <Hitman32> guys>>
[12:44] <indus> هِعك
[12:44] <Hitman32> I need remote desktop
[12:44] <indus> .
[12:44] <Hitman32> يو يو
[12:44] <Blizzerand> arabic
[12:44] <Hitman32> program
[12:44] <FloodBot1> Hitman32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:44] <thitetejas> hello can any one help me
[12:44] <indus> !remotedesktop
[12:44] <Hitman32> I don't
[12:44] <thitetejas> pls
[12:44] <indus> Hitman32: try vnc
[12:44] <Hitman32> yes
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: you can use rdesktop to connect to windows terminal services
[12:44]  * Blizzerand huggles FloodBot1
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: for what reason do you want the desktop?
[12:45] <Hitman32> to access to winXp
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ahh: sudo apt-get install rdesktop
[12:45] <Hitman32> Is Rdesktop fine
[12:45] <jems> how do i pidgin to setup yahoo chat
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !info rdesktop
[12:45] <Hitman32> Ok
[12:45] <Hitman32> let me try...
[12:46] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: is there anything in the update of the system that you think might have caused the wireless to stop working? I'm wondering if I should reinstall the system and install the b43-cutter drivers without ever installing the ndiswrapper content
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: not sure, as long as its visible in te output of: sudo lshw -C network     it should be configurable
[12:46] <jems> file:///home/jems/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[12:46] <Hitman32> E: Couldn't find package Rdesktop
[12:46] <thitetejas> can any one help me
[12:47] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: there doesn't appear to be any driver loaded now even though the b43-cutter drivers have been reinstalled and the ndiswrapper drivers have been removed. Is there any command to force those drivers to be recognised?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: you dont just install the cutter app, you need to do stuff with it to make it work. the guide outlines this
[12:47] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I tried modprobe and that didn't work.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: otherwise i cant advise any further
[12:48] <Hitman32> i thing I have it
[12:49] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I did sudo lshw -c network and it says that the wireless network controler is *-network UNCLAIMED
[12:49] <bernardlychan> hey guys i'm really sorry for bringing you guys offtopic ok?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ok then enable remote logon in windows and you can use that client
[12:50] <Hansard_> [21:47]	<ActionParsnip>	Hansard_: you dont just install the cutter app, you need to do stuff with it to make it work. the guide outlines this <--- I followed the guide to the letter. And it worked. But then I rebooted.
[12:50] <Hansard_> Not sure if it was the rebooting or the update that killed the wifi.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: then add the commands that make it work to /etc/rc.local
[12:51] <Hansard_> what commands?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: there will be one final command you run to make it work, that needs to be ran each time, so add it to the bootup
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom >  ActionParsnip
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> and ubottu is sleeping
[12:52] <greenish_blue> I used expert mode during base installation and did sth wrong in keyboard section, now I cant jump over words using Ctrl+ (left or right )while writing commands, how do I correct this ?
[12:52] <Hitman32> there's any other program to remote ??
[12:52] <Hansard_> wake up ubottu!!
[12:53] <greenish_blue> I used expert mode during base installation and did sth wrong in keyboard section, now I cant jump over words using Ctrl+ (left or right )while writing commands, how do I correct this ?
[12:53] <mrdjmaciek> Hitman32 ssh ?
[12:53] <Hitman32> ssh
[12:53] <Hitman32> what's that
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: you can use vnc but its pretty slow, why do you want access to the xp desktop??
[12:53] <thitetejas> hitman32 can u help me
[12:54] <greenish_blue> can some help me
[12:54] <greenish_blue> I used expert mode during base installation and did sth wrong in keyboard section, now I cant jump over words using Ctrl+ (left or right )while writing commands, how do I correct this ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: try: sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[12:54] <Hitman32> wiat
[12:54] <Hitman32> I wanna to play
[12:54] <Hitman32> to access only make access
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: play what?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: full 3d games will not run over vnc
[12:54] <Hansard_> FATAL: Module bcm43xx not found.
[12:55] <Hitman32> other pro..
[12:56] <greenish_blue> have any idea guys ?
[12:56] <Geezer> Hello
[12:56] <greenish_blue> I used expert mode during base installation and did sth wrong in keyboard section, now I cant jump over words using Ctrl+ (left or right )while writing commands, how do I correct this ?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 looks good
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: like what?
[12:56] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: oh it also said this WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.
[12:56] <Hitman32> any program,,, wait i'll try vnc
[12:57] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: and WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[12:57] <bambam_> ALL: When someone should decide to leave ubuntu and get into more core linux distros
[12:57] <padi999> How do I have to setup ctorrent behind a firewall? I forwarded port 2706 on the router but still get timeouts...
[12:57] <frogzoo> Hansard_: you need to name the file blah.conf
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: 2d apps rn fine. i dont get why you need the fulll desktop. a lot of apps have we interfaces now
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[12:58] <Hansard_> frogzoo: I'd actually prefer to get rid of it. But apt-get --purge remove didn't seem to work.
[12:58] <Hitman32> OK,, give me one
[12:58] <frogzoo> Hansard_: well sometimes you do need to blacklist a driver....
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: depends what you want to achieve.
[12:58] <Hitman32> which one i should work
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: vlc has a web interface, transmission has a web interface
[12:59] <nicknamemick> hello
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: i have no idea what you want to achieve on the remote system
[12:59] <Hitman32> wep???
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: wep is an encryption protool, not an app
[12:59] <Hansard_> frogzoo: oh sorry was talking about the ndiswrapper part
[12:59] <Hitman32> just to let my bro see my desktop
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: then vnc is perfect if you are demonstrating
[13:00] <Hitman32> or learn something
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: dont use vnc over the web though as it is not encrypted
[13:00] <Hitman32> Ok
[13:00] <coz_> ok so  adding rootdelay=40 to the defoptions in /boot/grub/menu.lst didnt work  any other options? also  I assume the 40 means seconds ... is there a table of options for seconds I can read ?
[13:00] <Hitman32> what's the matter
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ?
[13:01] <Hitman32>  dont use vnc over the web though as it is not encrypted>>>>........
[13:01] <miguelonnnn> hi, please do you know the difference between passphrase and bit key? i thought just passphrase encodes the password, but both do. So what's the point?
[13:01] <nicknamemick> sorry guys can i ask you a question ? i've just migrated to linux , do i need to install my video driver ? ( i have an ati radeon x1550)
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: there is zero security in vnc, so transmissions may be captured. all keypresses and mouse moves are sent in clear text
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> !ati | nicknamemick
[13:02] <frogzoo> nicknamemick: if you have a desktop, it's probly already installed
[13:02] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I tried "sudo modprobe b43" and it worked.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> nicknamemick: if you dont require 3d accelleration then vesa is fine
[13:02] <Hitman32> it's mony :P
[13:02] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: how do I add that to the boot conf file?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: ok is the wifi working?
[13:02] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[13:02] <Hitman32> i mean VNC should i buy it
[13:02] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: how do I make it run that modprobe line on bootup?
[13:03] <nicknamemick> thank you
[13:03] <nicknamemick> but i see the desktop quite bigger
[13:03] <murlidhar> checking for alsa >= 1.0.15... not found
[13:03] <murlidhar> am i missing someting ?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: type: b43     in that file, then save it and close gedit
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> nicknamemick: the ati driver will make that smaller
[13:04] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: thank you.
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: reboot to test
[13:04] <nicknamemick> thank you , so how can i install it?
[13:04] <murlidhar> !ati | nicknamemick
[13:04] <murlidhar> !test
[13:04] <murlidhar> hmmm
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> nicknamemick: the factoid tells you
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> oops
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> nicknamemick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> forgot ubottu was asleep
[13:05] <murlidhar> since when >
[13:05] <murlidhar> ?
[13:05] <nicknamemick> ActionParsnip: thanks so much , i'm sorry fot this embarassing questions
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> nicknamemick: its all new to you, you will have many
[13:06] <murlidhar> i still have :P
[13:06] <murlidhar> anyone ?
[13:06] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: works perfectly, thank you.
[13:06] <nicknamemick> ok , thanks , i'm trying to install
[13:06] <coz_> erUSUL,  any other suggestions for that rootdelay=40 ? :)
[13:06] <murlidhar> checking for alsa >= 1.0.15... not found
[13:07] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: how do we recommend to ubuntu.com that they change their help file to include a last step to add the loading of b43 to /etc/modules
[13:08] <Hansard_> oh think I've had too many wines tonight, it says it is a wiki
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: great!! erm...submit a bug i guess
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> true..
[13:11] <Hansard_> lol I love your reaction ActionParsnip, it's like an anime character... "great!! erm..."
[13:11] <[new_i]> ïðèâåò âñåì)
[13:11] <paissad-hp> is it possible to run a graphic application via ssh, and make that application continue running even the remote ssh connection is closed ?
[13:11] <bazhang> [new_i], #ubuntu-ru for russian
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> paissad-hp:    You could use 'vnc' and sort of do that.
[13:12] <[new_i]> bazhang,÷òî?
[13:13] <bazhang> [new_i], /join #ubuntu-ru
[13:13] <ikorin> vncserver ?
[13:13] <paissad-hp> Dr_Willis, without using vnc if possible :-)
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> paissad-hp:  it has some place to show the display.. so i cant think of any way other then via vnc in its own virtual (hidden) desktop
[13:13] <paissad-hp> i did not precise that
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> paissad-hp:  Ive never seen a way to do it.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> the display has to go somewhere I guess. :)
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: you can use screen
[13:15] <paissad-hp> Dr_Willis, yes, the display has to go somewhere, but i want it to stay into the server station, so that i can continue after closing the remote ssh access
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: for gui apps, not sure though
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> paissad-hp:  you want to 'move' the display from the server to the client on the fly - you wish to say?
[13:15] <paissad-hp> ActionParsnip, i've tried screen, but that works only for application limited to the console
[13:15] <paissad-hp> not graphical ones
[13:15] <[new_i]> ìåíÿ òóò ïîíèìàþò?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: what gui app areyou running?
[13:16] <bazhang> [new_i], here is English only; #ubuntu-ru for Russian please
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> I recall some app ages ago that you could 'move'  a gui app's display from one X instance to another.. but it dident work very well.
[13:16] <paissad-hp> ActionParsnip, for example firefox , just an example
[13:16] <[new_i]> ok..
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: there may be a way to tell the app to run on the local x server and not the remote one
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: like move it from one to another, you'll have to dig arout to findhow
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Of course if its running on the remote end.. then how are you going to controll it if you cant see its display.
[13:17] <sean2009> hi
[13:17] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: thanks to you I got it working. And I have updated the wiki to reflect that last command to add it to the /etc/modules
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> sweet
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> that'll help oters :)
[13:18] <Hansard_> pity I can't put a footnote that you suggested that last /etc/modules line
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> xmove is a pseudo server X. It is pseudo since it does not actually do the work of a server, but instead it speaks with an existing X server.
[13:18] <sean2009> does anyone get paid to be a full time irc channel helpe..???
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> !info xmove
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> I recall trying xmove ages ago.....
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> it sort of does that paissad-hp
[13:19] <[new_i]> sean2009,hi..
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> paissad-hp:  http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Allow_a_program_to_continue_after_logoff#X_move
[13:19] <sean2009> hello
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: not that i know of
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: all contributions are free and carry no sla
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> No refunds either.
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:20] <sean2009> ok well i'd just like to say thanks to anyone who had ever helped someone in here
[13:20] <Hansard_> hmmm why are my propriety drivers not activated?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: everyone says you are welcome right back at you
[13:20] <sean2009> ok thanks
[13:20] <Hansard_> By 'activated' does it mean they are not running, or that I haven't 'registered' with the providers?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: you may help someday too
[13:21] <clearscreen> :)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: makes the world go around
[13:21]  * leaf-sheep pay it forward.
[13:21] <sean2009> only when i know enough to teach someone, right now iam an advanced beginner.!
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: those are drivers that cant be included on the cd for legal reasons but an app is provided to install them, thigs like video drivers are common here
[13:22] <anli_> why isnt there an upgrade script to run when I want to go from ubuntu 7.10 to the newest?
[13:22] <anli_> What is making a lot of struggle necessary
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> 7.10 - is almost 2 years old..  wosers. :0
[13:22] <clearscreen> anli_: update-manager -d
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> anli_: you cant, you need to go up through the intermediate releases
[13:23] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I downloaded the .run ati driver from the amd website and installed it. And I went into 'hardware drivers' and it says that the driver isn't 'activated'. Same with the Broadcom B43 wireless driver that we just installed.
[13:23] <anli_> ActionParsnip: and why cannot a program do it for me?
[13:23] <kamil> Hi
[13:23] <clearscreen> anli_: update-manager ...
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> anil_: it can and does
[13:23] <anli_> clearscreen: finished with a core dump
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: ati have a config tool of their own to use
[13:23] <sean2009> i have a broadcom wireless driver, i can t get that to work either - iam using arch linux
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> !arch
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> !archlinux
[13:24] <clearscreen> Nobody else does either, ubottu! :D
[13:24] <miguelonnnn> i don't know about archlinux, but maybe wvdialconf will work
[13:24] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: so why didn't the ubuntu hardware drivers tool detect that ati had correctly installed the driver? bug?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: maybe the inuilt tool doesnt detect your card
[13:24] <miguelonnnn> hi, please do you know the difference between passphrase and bit key? i thought just passphrase encodes the password, but both do. So what's the point?
[13:24] <sean2009> i have arch on a laptop and iam running ubuntu on another laptop
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: i suggest you websearch how to set it up
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> Hansard_:  ati has removed many cards from their fglrx drivers. so cards that used to use fglrx may not use it now..
[13:24] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: it detects the card, that's why it's suggesting I 'activate' the driver.
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: arch is supported in #archlinux
[13:25] <sean2009> it may need some b43 firmware program
[13:25] <Hansard_> Dr_Willis: I have an HD 4800. It is included in the current propriety ati driver.
[13:25] <coz_> ok again booting dropts to initramfs   I would have to insert rootdelay=40 to the kernel stanza line in /boot/grub/menu.lst  but this only happesn with ubuntu and consistently that last two years and with scsi drives
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | sean2009
[13:25] <coz_> anyone know where this originates from?  a kernel patch?  an oversight?
[13:25] <anli_> its a mystery that an url in sources.list can result in 404, that is the same as a design flaw
[13:26] <sean2009> yes thanks ive been there done it iot doesn't work
[13:26] <sean2009> i am happy to use the ethernet port
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> anli_:  when a release gets 'so old' i belive they move the repositories to some archive server.
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> anli_:  you may need to change your sources.list to reflect that.
[13:26] <anli_> Its a shame that a user ever needs to edit that file
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> and ive no idea how old is 'old'
[13:27] <anli_> 7.10 gusty
[13:27] <sean2009> old is anything over 6months
[13:27]  * Dr_Willis would cosider 7.10 rather old.
[13:27] <coz_> anli_,  thats old
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> 2 yrs old = 4 releases since then.
[13:27] <anli_> it doesnt matter, if I need to edit a file manually, there is something that could be made better
[13:27] <thowland> anli, you might want to switch to a long-term support version
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> anli_:  thats why theres the LTS versions. Do what you want.. have a nice day
[13:28] <anli_> All I want is a smooth transition to the newest version, long-term och short-term
[13:28] <anli_> or
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> anil_: you could edit sources.list to say hardy instead of gutsy and dist-upgrade but I do NOT advise this
[13:28] <sean2009> why not just download the 9.04 iso and install like that - and back up data first
[13:28] <coz_> anli_,  well a smooth transisiton from one version to the next would be best dealt with on LTS  instead of interum versions
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> i would be suprised if that thing can sucessfully 'upgrade' to the latest release.
[13:28] <anli_> It just sounded that you advised me :)
[13:28] <sean2009> 9.10 is coming out soon
[13:29] <sean2009> i think 2 months time
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> I have enough problems upgrading from one release to the next.
[13:29] <coz_> anli_,   you could wait until 10.10  which is the next LTS I believe
[13:29] <coz_> anli_,   or install one of the previous LTS revisions  and go from there
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> anil_: i'm saying its a possibility, its just not graceful
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> One very good reason to keep /home on its own partition.
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> just in case a upgrade goes ka-blam and you have to do a clean reinstall.
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> anil_: i suggest you reinstall a jaunty, or wait a month for karmic to be released
[13:31] <indus> anli_: so whats the problem?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> indus: gutsy installed but isnt supported
[13:32] <sean2009> for the amount of people in the room there is little talking going on....!
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: you can listen and lurk for free
[13:33] <sean2009> ok thanks
[13:33] <indus> aah gutsy
[13:33] <indus> so what did you suggest ActionParsnip
[13:34] <indus> burn cd is good i guess
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> indus: could edit sources.list to say hardy instead of gutsy then run dist-upgrade
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> but its a bit dodgey
[13:34] <anli_> There should be a script that changed every occurence of gutsy
[13:34] <sean2009> ActionParsnip, i remember 10 years ago going on mirc there was people talking every second . Also there was a thing called irc bombing and stuff. I'm not sure if people still do the bombing thing now though.
[13:34] <anli_> That cannot be a hard-to-write script
[13:35] <indus> ActionParsnip: no because i think that wont upgrade? hmm not sure ,i thought since gutsy is eol, that method too fails
[13:35] <Halitech> indus, change your sources to point to here old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and then update
[13:35] <indus> Halitech: hmm anli_ is the one wiwth the problem
[13:35] <indus> Halitech: thank you :)
[13:35] <anli_> Halitech: that did not seem to work for security.ubuntu.com
[13:35] <Halitech> indus, ok
[13:35] <Halitech> anli_, just comment the security one out
[13:36] <anli_> for what reason?
[13:36] <sfyn> Hi folks
[13:36] <Halitech> anli_, get the base updated and then upgrade to 8.04
[13:36] <sfyn> Got an extreme newbie question
[13:36] <hipodilski> heya guys I solved my previous ubuntu problem, however I now do experience another one
[13:36] <indus> anli_: i suggest you burn a new cd and install,but you probably have been adviced it too
[13:36] <Hansard_> I can't Activate the ATI driver with the Hardware Drivers utility. It just hangs on "Downloading and installing driver... 0%".
[13:36] <hipodilski> the acpid daemon is loading my system leaving it with idle 0%
[13:37] <sfyn> How do I access my system mails? ie the mails referred to in the sentence "You have new mail" when you log in at a tty?
[13:37] <indus> anli_: the other methods are a bit 'unofficial'
[13:37] <hipodilski> what might be causing that?
[13:37] <Halitech> Hansard_, what video card?
[13:37] <nibbler_> sfyn: type mail, or maybe mailx
[13:37] <sean2009> Im thinking of putting SELinux on ubuntu what does everyone think of selinux.?
[13:37] <Hansard_> Halitech: ATI HD4800
[13:37] <indus> ActionParsnip: does he have the option of burning new cd version?
[13:37] <Halitech> Hansard_, 9.04?
[13:37] <Hansard_> yes
[13:37] <WishingMaster> indus, ActionParsnip , i am back
[13:38] <Halitech> Hansard_, maybe try the ati driver http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.36&lang=English
[13:38] <Hansard_> I did
[13:38] <Hansard_> it said it installed
[13:38] <indus> WishingMaster: like you said. 'ill be back'
[13:38] <Hansard_> but I can't activate compiz because it can't find the driver
[13:38] <sean2009> wellcome back
[13:38] <Halitech> Hansard_, did you run aticonfig --initial after  you installed?
[13:38] <WishingMaster> Indus,yeah bro
[13:38] <Hansard_> no
[13:38] <Hansard_> brb I'll try that
[13:38] <WishingMaster> indus, evrything is up n running now
[13:38] <Halitech> Hansard_, try that, reboot and then see if compiz will start
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Halitech: does that need sudo?
[13:39] <indus> is it true that laptop power management is poor  compared to windows, especially windows 7?
[13:39] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, u r the man
[13:39] <Halitech> ActionParsnip, I believe it does, Hansard_ run it with sudo
[13:39] <WishingMaster> action
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: i just advised, you did it man
[13:39] <sean2009> How did the people in these rooms get so good at Linux..??? They seem to know everything
[13:40] <xqleg> 	hi, i've got problem with xampp and path to user files, how to configure it?
[13:40] <indus> sean2009: i dont know nothing
[13:40] <xqleg>   //localhost/~user/ drives to /htdocs/~user directory not to /home/user/public_html
[13:40] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, i always follow ur advice and i come through all my troubles.........always
[13:40] <sean2009> ok
[13:40] <anli_> In sources.list, I changed all se.archives to old-releases and commented out every security.ubuntu.com line
[13:40] <Halitech> sean2009, comes with using it, breaking it, fixing it, wash rinse repeat :)
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: while you were getting excited about xp. i was looking at other OSes
[13:40] <anli_> then I did apt-get update
[13:40] <nibbler_> sean2009: luckily there is plenty of ppl, but moinly u learn by doing and google ;-)
[13:40] <leaf-sheep> Okay okay. I got a new netbook -- Dell Mini 10. Really nice. Wifi works but the wired is broken although it worked in the netboot installer.  What is the usual protocol for this?
[13:40] <anli_> and do-release-upgrade
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: im sure you can do tonnes in windows that i cant
[13:40] <anli_> do-release-upgrade resulted in a lot of 404:s, produced an error message and a rollback
[13:41] <sean2009> xp is a good os but i lke linux much more
[13:41] <sean2009> i play games in xp
[13:41] <sean2009> everything else is done on linux
[13:41] <leaf-sheep> sean2009: The longer you use... the more you know.  Isn't it how you know stuffs about Windows too? :)
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: some games run awesome in linux
[13:41] <indus> is windows 7 released? what cost is it
[13:41] <sean2009> not many ive tried wine
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> indus: not sure and too much
[13:42] <Halitech> indus, its still in beta and its free but will stop working in June of next year
[13:42] <indus> sean2009: well,id games
[13:42] <Hansard_> leaf-sheep: I know stuff about windows because of osmossis in my sleep.
[13:42] <indus> Halitech: aah october it comes i believe
[13:42] <leaf-sheep> sean2009: I use Xbox360/PS3/N64/PSP etc.  (Gaming consoles).
[13:42] <indus> Halitech: it said 3 gb install so i didnt install it
[13:42] <lianimator> after I telnet to my router, how do I see the list of clients?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: some devs release linux native frontends so the game runs native, doom3 does this as does unreal tournament 2004
[13:42] <sean2009> the trouble with wine is that games dont work because of the copy protection
[13:43] <Halitech> indus, could be for the actual release, I got the testing release and its supposed to work until next summer, so far not overly impressed with it
[13:43] <sean2009> ie it installls then says insert the disc
[13:43] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, is there a command to find out which drivers are most compatible with my sys and also what does dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg        do?
[13:43] <Tutunkommon> is there a problem with the apt-get servers? Specifically, security.ubuntu.com?  I can't even ping it, let alone update anything...
[13:43] <sean2009> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[13:43] <Hansard_> Halitech: Desktop effects could not be enabled.
[13:43] <Halitech> anli_, you might be farther ahead to get an 8.04 cd and do a fresh install
[13:43] <anli_> Halitech: is that how easy the apt system gets? :)
[13:43] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm using a computer with a SVGA output - one the secondary mirrored screen everything is fine except the mouse cursor does not show up (but does on the primary screen).  Is this a known/common problem?
[13:43] <sean2009> leaf-sheep, yes i have all those too apart from psp
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: do you mean hardware that is compatible, or the driver for your hardware?
[13:44] <Halitech> Hansard_, what does fglrxinfo give for output?
[13:44] <anli_> It would be cool with an upgrade script that cannot fail miserably
[13:44] <sean2009> i also still have my 3 amigas / amigos as i call them
[13:44] <Halitech> anli_, if you stay up to date it works well
[13:44] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, driver for my hardware
[13:44] <anli_> Halitech: but not else
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> anil_: thats normal, you just left upgrading too long so upgrading your release isnt possible
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: depends what hardware it is
[13:45] <anli_> there should be no "left upgrading too long"
[13:45] <anli_> then the package system fails
[13:45] <gossar> would this help anli_?
[13:45] <gossar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#7.10%20to%208.04%20(Gutsy%20to%20Hardy)
[13:45] <vigo> anli_: 8.04.3 is very stable.
[13:45] <Halitech> anli_, with 7.10 being eol, it makes it harder although using the old-archive it should allow you to update
[13:45] <sean2009> what books did people read to learn about linux.? or can you recommend any web sites to learn.?