[07:39] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[07:39] <unicum> or an update to gfp which could handle that?
[07:39] <vontux> nibsa1242: did it happen to fail when you tried to boot the newly restore partition?
[07:40] <dxdt> unicum: yes, check out filezilla, open and does that
[07:40] <person1873> can you go from x86 to x86_64 without a 700MB download?
[07:40] <unicum> great, thx
[07:40] <Kalamansi> !ubun server
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubun server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <nibsa1242> vontux: no, it refused to read the file that I had backed up correctly
[07:40] <Kalamansi> !ubuntu server
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <Noogen> person: no
[07:40] <Kalamansi> !server
[07:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[07:40] <person1873> that sucks
[07:40] <vontux> nibsa1242: did you have the gzip compression option set?
[07:40] <nibsa1242> vontux: yes
[07:40] <Noogen> person1873: 64 bit require completely new install
[07:41] <vontux> nibsa1242: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287522
[07:42] <vontux> nibsa1242: apparantly there is something wrong with restoring from gzip compressed image files with partimage
[07:42] <vontux> but uncompressed it is supposed to restore fine
[07:42] <Kalamansi> hello is there any way to minize setting of pc2 and pc3? like i will not put my isp's dns? pc1 is my server and i have no router. pc2 and pc3 can connect to the internet with assigned ip,gateway,subnet and dns of my isp..how to minimize this without setting my isp's dns? i dont want to expose my dns to the public...
[07:42] <nibsa1242> vontux: yeah... it doesn't work
[07:42] <vontux> anyone else restore / backup a system using partimage?
[07:42] <vontux> nibsa1242: what restoring with the compression level set to none?
[07:42] <amc> Hey, quick question, it seems that my xorg.conf gets overwritten everytime I reboot, so my changes doesn't stay. Is this an ubuntu thing or is my system configured in a special way here?
[07:43] <nibsa1242> vontux: if you look hard enough, you can understand what partimage does and simply use dd piped to gzip or the compression program of your choice for a backup
[07:43] <blag> anybody know where I should put the flashplayer.xpt (flash browser plugin)?  In Feisty (were I got it from) its at ~/.mozilla/plugins/ but theres no plugins/ directory in gutsy, any ideas?
[07:43] <dxdt> amc: not normal
[07:43] <amc> dxdt: thanks, I guess it's the setup here then
[07:43] <josiah> I want to register a wine installed application called DVDFab. They file that is normally double clicked and then automatically installed into windows is called "Key.DVDFabPlatinum" Wine does not recognize this file because it is not a .exe file... what should I do?
[07:43] <vontux> nibsa1242: so an image file raw won't restore?
[07:43] <mastodon> Just a quick question, KDE4 won't run correctly after the (supposedly automatic) install, which apparently didn't install kdebase-runtime, so I'm trying to manually install that and encountering errors
[07:44] <nibsa1242> vontux: I don't really know. I just ended up backing up only the important files.
[07:44] <vontux> ah
[07:44] <dxdt> blag:/usr/lib/firefox/plugins is where mine is
[07:44] <dxdt> blag: don't know that that will help you or not though
[07:45] <blag> dxdt: nice nick, btw, the .xpt file is at /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/?
[07:46] <dxdt> blag: my .so file is.  and there are other .xpt files there, but not for flash, though my flash is a little oddly configured on this machine because I have 64 bit
[07:46] <dxdt> blag: also see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you haven't already been there
[07:47] <blag> dxdt: well, ill try it and see what happens...  thanks
[07:47] <nibsa1242> vontux: I've been playing with Bacula... Seems like a better way to go... back up all computers on home network.
[07:47] <neztit1> guys can i upgrade from iso file???
[07:48] <vontux> nibsa1242: and you have tried restore too?
[07:48] <nibsa1242> vontux: not with it, but there is good documentation
[07:48] <ir2> 没人说话吗？
[07:48] <nibsa1242> vontux: http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/Disast_Recove_Using_Bacula.html#RescueChapter
[07:49] <n2diy> ! ja | ir2
[07:49] <Flannel> neztit1: is it the alternate?
[07:49] <ir2> china
[07:49] <ubotu> ir2: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[07:49] <astro76> !cn | ir2
[07:49] <ubotu> ir2: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[07:49] <neztit1> flannel: no
[07:50] <Flannel> neztit1: You need the alternate CD to do an upgrade.  Are you connected via broadband?
[07:50] <neztit1> yes
[07:50] <nibsa1242> vontux: anyhow, I have to goto bed I've spend all day fixing my /boot partition (it got formatted) and sleep is calling me. Good luck with your backup.
[07:50] <Flannel> neztit1: Just do an upgrade via update-manager, you'll save yourself bandwidth
[07:50] <vontux> nibsa1242: thx
[07:50] <vontux> :)
[07:51] <neztit1> plannel: it takes 3 hours man
[07:51] <Flannel> neztit1: it is possible to upgrade via the iso (you mount it as a CD, and go from there), but you'll have to download updates anyway from the repos.  So you really aren't savnig a whole lot of time via the CD (if any)
[07:52] <Librustralia> Okay I've got Parted Magic on a CD now
[07:52] <Librustralia> I'm going to go try it out now, cya everyone and thanks for the help!
[07:52] <Librustralia> (i might be back)
[07:53] <firefoxIE> whats a repository?
[07:53] <astro76> !repo | firefoxIE
[07:53] <ubotu> firefoxIE: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:53] <neztit1> plannel: better 2 burn it and install
[07:53] <humblerodent> firefoxIE: It's a site that hosts a bunch of packages that your package manager can use
[07:53] <^root^> My sudoers file: http://pastebin.ca/855812 still i am not able to run sudo without password, i am shoaibi, and member of root and admin
[07:54] <firefoxIE> is it like components of a whole program
[07:54] <Flannel> neztit1: No.... you still need to download updates.  Like I said, you can upgrade via the alternate CD without burning it.  But you wont save yourself anything this far into a release
[07:54] <firefoxIE> I dont quite get this linux logic, I'm a lot more used to winndwos
[07:55] <neztit1> Flannel: give me command how 2 start from the iso file
[07:56] <firefoxIE> will I have to know any commands in order to install ubuntu from CD?
[07:56] <Darkmystere> how do i do safe partioning in Ubuntu
[07:56] <Flannel> !iso | neztit1
[07:56] <ubotu> neztit1: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:56] <Darkmystere> i mean windows
[07:56] <Flannel> neztit1: It wont work with the destkop iso, you need the alternate iso
[07:58] <unicum> what do i need to tell my filezilla to actually do a download
[07:58] <Noogen> Darkmystere: backup your partition first with fdisk -l > yourparts.txt
[07:58] <josiah> is Aegis the best virus scanning software for ubuntu?
[07:58] <unicum> i do get a connection, but for a download it goes looping logging in
[07:58] <neztit1> plannel: this is my file   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/re...de4.0-i386.iso
[07:58] <Noogen> so you get an idea just in case you accidentally delete when you doing partitioning
[07:58] <astro76> !virus | josiah
[07:59] <ubotu> josiah: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:59] <n2diy> ! Aegis
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aegis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <dxdt> unicum: looping logging in sounds like it isn't getting past the login
[07:59] <Sonicadvance1> http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Mockup-Hardy-Heron-74511244 Oi, what is the taskbar at the bottom of this picture again?
[07:59] <Taggard> Who can recommend me a podcast aggregator?
[07:59] <dxdt> unicum: it is probably auto retrying to login or something
[07:59] <unicum> dxt, since i can actually see the files i do get the login
[07:59] <dxdt> Taggard: Rhythmbox and Amarok can do it, or technically any rss feeder I think can too or something.  ?  ¯\(º_o)/¯
[07:59] <josiah> I know linux doesnt have a virus problem but i store file that windows machines access on my linux machine and i use wine which can get viruses
[07:59] <josiah> but thank you astro76
[08:00] <kebinusan> clam-av
[08:00] <Decinoge> does anyone in here has experience making SDL based applications for ubuntu?
[08:00] <unsleepable> hi.
[08:00] <astro76> josiah: well clamav is pretty widely used and in the repos
[08:00] <unsleepable> whois using SDCC ?
[08:00] <astro76> josiah: and fyi you are the exception for people asking for virus software in here ;)
[08:01] <josiah> astro76: understood thank you
[08:01] <josiah> astro76: i know Aegis is in the repos as well... which is better?
[08:01] <astro76> josiah: is aegis antivirus? doesn't sound like it from the description
[08:01] <bsdnewbie> Aegis Defect Tracking? is that?
[08:02] <n2diy> astro76: , josiah, true, but if your linux box is serving mali, you should scan for viruses, no?
[08:02] <boron> I like ubuntu..it be kewl..like Justin Timberlake
[08:02] <kaboombob> hello all im having a problem getting my panasonic mp3 player to connect to my computer, im using 7.1, and it says failure to mount
[08:02] <n2diy> mali/mail
[08:02] <kaboombob> !pastebin
[08:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:02] <astro76> n2diy: perhaps, and josiah is indeed serving windows clients
[08:02] <Decinoge> none
[08:02] <josiah> n2diy: true
[08:03] <JamoSmith> I just setup a new 22" LGWTQ widescreen monitor, how do I get Ubuntu to 'auto detect' the new setup. It currently won't change resolutions
[08:03] <JamoSmith> LG226TQ
[08:03] <josiah> astro76: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/aegis-virus-scanner
[08:04] <astro76> josiah: I see, the last version to contain it was Feisty, dunno why (http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=all&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=aegis-virus&searchon=names)
[08:05] <astro76> oh I guess you are on edgy anyway
[08:05] <josiah> astro76: hmm maybe i will stick to clamav
[08:05] <chump> hey guys i had the cube working yesterday but was't loading compiz  i had the manager in system >> Preferences >> ???? what was this manger called?
[08:05] <josiah> astro76: no im on gusty
[08:05] <kneath> Anyone ever had problems with ruby 1.8.4 + rails 2.02 + <% -%> (the -) syntax?
[08:05] <josiah> astro76: gutsy
[08:05] <astro76> josiah: ah
[08:06] <kneath> I'm having trouble where it's telling me expected kEND everywhere I have -%> and if I change it to %>, works like a charm
[08:06] <astro76> kneath: try #rubyonrails ;)
[08:06] <boron> quick..BEST Linux programs that AREN'T obvious....
[08:06] <kneath> astro76: problem is, it's not a rails problem (I don't think)
[08:06] <boron> bonus for being apt-get-able
[08:06] <n2diy> boron: kstars
[08:06] <kneath> everyone seems more or less useless there
[08:06] <boron> kstars..yes yes
[08:06] <astro76> kneath: you'll get less help here, believe me
[08:07] <astro76> kneath: *about rails
[08:07] <n2diy> boron: xastir
[08:07] <kneath> yeah, problem is I'm about 120% sure it's a ruby+ubuntu problem :)
[08:07] <kneath> but I'll try there
[08:08] <boron> xastir..hmmm.gonna see what that is
[08:08] <kaboombob> boron fish fillets
[08:08] <boron> MMMmmm.fish fillets
[08:08] <n2diy> ! xastir
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xastir - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <boron> gordon fisherman
[08:09] <xLE> is there an XML editor in the package list?
[08:09] <jay2xra> hi everyone.... my laptop (dell 640m) it has a bluetooth builtin... however ubuntu is not seeing any hci0 device... anyone?
[08:09] <boron> fish fillets, great call!
[08:09] <kaboombob> thnx
[08:10] <chump> whats the basic way to run cube effects from go in ubuntu?
[08:10] <unicum> does explicit tls equal auth tls?
[08:10] <boron> god, its amazing how one DOESN'T know about all the great OSS progs out there...
[08:11] <MspecNur> i just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and now my epiphany browser does a segfault and refuses to start
[08:11] <inertial> anyone know a good torrent client other than azureus that's apt-gettable?
[08:11] <MspecNur> anybody know how i can get it to work?
[08:12] <inertial> azureus is crashing with some java error.. probably has to do with 64 bit..
[08:12] <vvx> What dance must I do for a real mplayer?
[08:12] <boron> bittorrent client=deluge
[08:12] <xLE> is there an XML editor in the package list?
[08:12] <inertial> boron: ok i'll try it
[08:13] <mrj> Is there some magical way to disable lvm+encryption's encryption.. completely. My laptop can't handle it.
[08:14] <jason_123> how do i change my tool bar to something else
[08:14] <inertial> does deluge let you change priority of certain files boron ?
[08:15] <kebinusan> inertial: yah it does
[08:15] <inertial> kebinusan: how do i do that?
[08:15] <MspecNur> botxj@dce-bgx12:~$ epiphany
[08:15] <MspecNur> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[08:16] <elius_> hello, i just installed ubuntu and i want to install windows xp as well(dual boot) but when i boot from the windows cd i get a black screen, what can i do(pretty sure windows cant read the MBR so it crash)?
[08:16] <boron> not sure Inert...I haven't used it in awhile. Azurus has been my goto
[08:16] <inertial> kebinusan: aha i worked it out
[08:16] <kebinusan> inertial: click the torrent, click the files tab right click
[08:16] <inertial> kebinusan: i had to turn on the correct plugin
[08:16] <kebinusan> ah yeah that too
[08:16] <soldats> !dualboot | elius_
[08:16] <ubotu> elius_: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:17] <astro76> elius_: booting from the windows cd has nothing to do with the mbr
[08:17] <inertial> it's cool that you can disable certain tabs if you don't use them
[08:17] <thinh> what the command for me to see my kernel version?
[08:17] <Flannel> thinh: uname -a
[08:17] <kebinusan> thinh: uname -a
[08:17] <thinh> thanks
[08:17] <elius_> astro76 > has alot to do with it, had the same problem with gentoo and lilo and "lilo -M" on the mbr fixed it, not sure what to do with grub
[08:18] <jason_123> what does the nautilus scripts do
[08:18] <loodjuret> installed ubuntu 7.10 on a hp 6715s laptop. everything works except using 3d graphics with the ati radeon express (1250) card. do anyone here have any experience how to set up the drivers properly in order to get 3d to work? installed the ati drivers but seems like I have to use xgl when aiglx doesn't work. help anyone?
[08:19] <astro76> elius_: perhaps I'm wrong, but a bootable cd shouldn't care what's on the hard drive at all
[08:19] <kaboombob> im having a problem getting my panasonic mp3 player to connect to my computer, im using 7.1, and it says failure to mount, its a usb device
[08:20] <thinh> if my current version is 2.6.22 and i want to upgrade to 2.6.23 do a need a full or just a patch?
[08:20] <elius_> astro76 > tell that to microsoft, seems that windows install crash when it doesnt like the mbr
[08:20] <mcquaid> has anyone dealt with an ebuild?  I'm trying to compile something in ubuntu, but i only found an ebuild of it
[08:20] <jason_123> loodjuret use the restricted drivers manger in system admi.
[08:21] <loodjuret> jason_123: solves the problem with aiglx?
[08:21] <MspecNur> i just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and now my epiphany browser does a segfault and refuses to start, how can i fix it?
[08:22] <jason_123> i dont know i know it should install the right drives for it
[08:23] <jetscreamer> use something else
[08:23] <astro76> elius_: you should ask in #windows
[08:23] <MspecNur> there is no #epiphany
[08:24] <jason_123> loodjuret go to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637252&highlight=aiglx
[08:24] <loodjuret> jason_123: I believe the correct drivers are installed now, but not supported by aiglx
[08:24] <loodjuret> ah, thanks
[08:25] <jason_123> how do i change a splash screen
[08:26] <astro76> MspecNur: not sure where epiphany saves it's settings, try locate epiphany | grep ~
[08:26] <MspecNur> what would i change in the settings to make it not segfault?
[08:26] <astro76> MspecNur: you could try moving or deleting the settings and see if starting clean helps
[08:26] <MspecNur> oh ok
[08:27] <astro76> MspecNur: another way to check if it's user setting related is to create a new user and login with it
[08:27] <loodjuret> jason_123: using ubuntu 7.10?
[08:27] <jason_123> yes
[08:28] <loodjuret> jason_123: get ubuntu tweak. however, the splash is not impressive. not really included anymore
[08:28] <Lokii-> does anyone know how to create a theme archive for login window ?
[08:28] <kane77> is there some program that can take screenshots but only in selected region?
[08:28] <Lokii-> kane
[08:28] <Lokii-> try alt print screen
[08:28] <loodjuret> jason_123: at least, ubuntu tweak is easier to use than gconf-editor
[08:28] <jason_123> ty
[08:28] <kane77> Lokii-, yes, but I need to restrict even more...
[08:29] <Lokii-> kpaint
[08:29] <Lokii-> Laughing Out Loud
[08:29] <ziV-> gimp
[08:29] <kaboombob> im having a problem getting my panasonic mp3 player to connect to my computer, im using 7.1, and it says failure to mount, its a usb device
[08:29] <kaboombob> help please?
[08:29] <MspecNur> astro76, is locate the same as find?
[08:29] <astro76> MspecNur: no it's quicker and easier since it works on a daily updated index
[08:29] <Lokii-> does anyone here know how to create a theme archive for local login
[08:30] <astro76> MspecNur: to update it now to account for changed files, you can do : sudo updatedb
[08:30] <MspecNur> neat
[08:30] <astro76> MspecNur: find is of course more powerful
[08:30] <kebinusan> kaboombob: try thismaybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564001&highlight=Mp3+player+mount
[08:30] <tebriel> hey, my ubuntu machine hangs on Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) anyone have some ideas?
[08:30] <astro76> MspecNur: but locate is ideal for file names only
[08:32] <kaboombob> kebinusan it says it doesnt exist in /proc/modules
[08:34] <kebinusan> kaboombob: huh? you get that when you do a sudo rmmod ehci_hcd
[08:34] <kaboombob> yeah
[08:34] <thinh> !kernel
[08:34] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[08:34] <kaboombob> and proc/modules shows up blank when i ty o open it
[08:34] <kebinusan> kaboombob: eh that was my only guess
[08:34] <lkthomas> hey guys, if I want to create a new user which could access www-data dir, what should I do ?
[08:34] <Flannel> lkthomas: Add them to the www-data group
[08:34] <thinh> if am patch a kernel do still need to remove the symbolic link?
[08:35] <lkthomas> hmm, ok
[08:35] <Armageddon> help
[08:36] <Armageddon> I need help
[08:36] <kebinusan> ~asktoask
[08:36] <kebinusan> heh no go I guess
[08:36] <kebinusan> just ask Armageddon
[08:36] <astro76> !ask | Armageddon
[08:36] <ubotu> Armageddon: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:36] <Suva> Asking in one line is not clever though
[08:36] <Suva> Because
[08:37] <Suva> The line passes away too quickly :P
[08:37] <Suva> And people just don't notice it
[08:37] <Armageddon> I installed unbuntu on another computer and chose ebuntu or whatever for destop, now it asked me the login name and password, after that I dunno what the command is
[08:37] <Flannel> Suva: No, thats wrong.  Please keep your responses/questions to one line.
[08:37] <kaboombob> anybody know how to view /proc/modules?
[08:38] <Armageddon> how do I get to the desktop?
[08:38] <kebinusan> kaboombob: cat /proc/modules
[08:38] <astro76> Armageddon: your question is not clear, did you finish the install?
[08:38] <Suva> kaboombob: Aren't lsmod command for that
[08:38] <Armageddon> yes, now it asks for password and login, after that it has a $: thing
[08:39] <Armageddon> I dunno what to write
[08:39] <Suva> Armageddon: startx?
[08:39] <dgjones> Armageddon, try typing "startx"
[08:39] <Armageddon> kk
[08:39] <Flannel> Armageddon: Is this a server install CD? Or did you install the command line only version from the alternate CD?
[08:39] <Suva> Or try typing apt-get install gdm :P
[08:40] <kaboombob> okay here is what i get as a problem how do i fix it?: robert@robert-laptop:~$ sudo rmmod ehci_hcd    ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules
[08:40] <kebinusan> kaboombob: that means its not loaded
[08:40] <firefoxIE> hey
[08:40] <firefoxIE> whats the diff between ubuntu and edubuntu
[08:40] <firefoxIE> !info edubuntu
[08:40] <kaboombob> kebinusan how do i load it?
[08:40] <ubotu> Package edubuntu does not exist in gutsy
[08:40] <astro76> !edubuntu
[08:40] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[08:41] <Armageddon> startx is not a command
[08:41] <Armageddon> o.O
[08:41] <Flannel> Armageddon: which CD did you download?
[08:41] <foxielady> ?
[08:41] <firefoxIE> is it also for students?
[08:41] <Armageddon> 7.10
[08:41] <Armageddon> for desktop
[08:41] <Flannel> Armageddon: right, but what version?  desktop? alternate? server? What was the full filename
[08:41] <flamesage> Hello?
[08:41] <firefoxIE> what does it have that is specifically aimed at classroom use?
[08:41] <foxielady> 7.10 works good, i have no problems with it,
[08:42] <astro76> firefoxIE: maybe young students, but really for schools... I know a big part of it is ltsp client and server
[08:42] <Flannel> firefoxIE: Check out edubuntu.org, they've got a pretty informative site
[08:42] <flamesage> I never really saw the point of Edubuntu.
[08:42] <firefoxIE> astro: what is ltsp server?
[08:42] <Armageddon> http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[08:42] <flamesage> I mean, yeah it has some educational software.
[08:42] <flamesage> But.. if I was a school admin, I'd want to lock down the computers as much as possible, ya know?
[08:43] <foxielady> fla you know the point
[08:43] <Flannel> flamesage: LTSP allows you to do that.
[08:43] <flamesage> LTSP>
[08:43] <flamesage> ?
[08:43] <astro76> firefoxIE: thin clients, http://www.ltsp.org/
[08:43] <Tyroazard> Hey Ubuntu, what's the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu?
[08:43] <Armageddon> ok so what do I do, I downloaded http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[08:43] <foxielady> hee astro time can you read my hands
[08:43] <Flannel> flamesage: thin clients.  Of course, non-thin clients allows you to do that as well.  I don't see hwo "locking down" is contradictory to anything else
[08:43] <flamesage> QUESTION: how the heck can I install flash on Ubuntu 7.10 64?  (The automatic installer script is down.)
[08:43] <thinh> is the symbolic link in usr/src going to linux header file or the linux header generic?
[08:43] <Flannel> Armageddon: Did that CD boot to a GUI?
[08:44] <Armageddon> I used a non CD version
[08:44] <astro76> !xubuntu | Tyroazard
[08:44] <ubotu> Tyroazard: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[08:45] <kaboombob> !flash | flamesage
[08:45] <ubotu> flamesage: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:45] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[08:45] <Flannel> Armageddon: a non CD version?
[08:45] <firefoxIE> so basically edubuntu isn't as comprehensive in terms of features as ubuntu?
[08:45] <firefoxIE> its just a server?
[08:45] <Armageddon> yea, where you download it, and use ISO to m ake it seem like itès a CD
[08:45] <Tyroazard> Okay.
[08:45] <wchen> does anyone here knows where i can get information about setting up ubuntu for C++ programmin? (ide, console)
[08:46] <Tyroazard> Uh, I guess the alternate CD thing made it work
[08:46] <Flannel> firefoxIE: No, thats wrong.  Theyre both just as capable.  Edubuntu can install as a regular system, or as the LTSP/thin-client thing.
[08:46] <kaboombob> !c++
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <Tyroazard> Do you think my 800mhz PPC iMac with 768MB of ram could run normal ubuntu smoothly?
[08:46] <th0r> wchen start by installing 'build-essential;
[08:46] <Flannel> Tyroazard: Should be able to, yeah
[08:46] <Tyroazard> Smoothly?
[08:46] <lagos> yes
[08:47] <kaboombob> im having a problem getting my panasonic mp3 player to connect to my computer, im using 7.1, and it says failure to mount, its a usb device and "sudo rmmod ehci_hcd" isnt working
[08:47] <flamesage> !LTSP
[08:47] <ubotu> LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project
[08:47] <Tyroazard> Uh. Crap.
[08:47] <lkthomas> guys, how could I limit a shell user only be able to access ftp but not ssh ?
[08:47] <wchen> msg th0r i have done that, what should i do next to improve my programming environment
[08:47] <Armageddon> edubuntu is my desktop, I canèt get to it after login, it wants another command
[08:47] <jerkface03> is there anyway to have apt-get update/upgrade automatically every x days?
[08:47] <PriceChild> lkthomas, ftp is baaaad, use sftp
[08:47] <flamesage> !edubuntu
[08:47] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[08:47] <dgjones> Tyroazard, I run ubuntu quite easily on a PC (rather than a Mac) that only has 384Mb ram and a slower processor that that
[08:47] <Darkmystere> OMG i love partion magic i made a Partion in 30mins and Didnt touch windows!!!
[08:47] <PriceChild> Jeriath, system > admin > software sources
[08:47] <Flannel> Armageddon: edubuntu? or ubuntu?  You said you downloaded the ubuntu CD
[08:47] <zhan_zr> !gobuntu
[08:47] <ubotu> gobuntu is a freedom-focused flavour of Ubuntu intended for experienced Linux enthusiasts. See http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/gobuntu for more information and download mirrors..
[08:47] <death_> morning
[08:47] <th0r> wchen you'll need a decent programming editor...I used nedit when I was into that sort of thing.
[08:47] <Tyroazard> Okay, so if my mac can run it, should I use ubuntu over xubuntu?
[08:48] <death_> I'm italian
[08:48] <th0r> wchen and there are some good tutorials on C programming on the web
[08:48] <Darkmystere> ok how do i transfer a virtual disk to a dedicated partion
[08:48] <Armageddon> but it asked me for a destop selection sowftware, and I picked ebundon or something
[08:48] <Tyroazard> Either way, I've already purged my house of Mac so.. meh.
[08:48] <Armageddon> I just wanna get to the desktop
[08:48] <th0r> jerkface03 put it in a script and run the script with cron
[08:48] <Armageddon> after I log in
[08:48] <kaboombob> tyroazard its a matter of what graphick style you like more
[08:48] <dgjones> !it | death_, If you want support in Italian, try this channel
[08:48] <ubotu> death_, If you want support in Italian, try this channel: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:49] <Tyroazard> Which do you recommend?
[08:49] <death_> thank you
[08:49] <kaboombob> tyroazard im a fan of gnome but kde has its place to
[08:49] <Armageddon> I just want to get to my desktop after I log in
[08:49] <Armageddon> what command do I need
[08:49] <astro76> Tyroazard: if you don't know linux it will probably be easier with gnome (ubuntu)
[08:49] <Tyroazard> I've tried ubuntu before
[08:49] <Tyroazard> On this computer
[08:50] <firefoxIE> how big is the ubuntu ISO file?
[08:50] <Tyroazard> 600mb, approx.
[08:50] <Armageddon> ok if you suck at computers, how do you re intall it and get a step by step guideÉ
[08:50] <astro76> Armageddon: ebundon?? you need to be clear on exactly what you did, what you installed, and exactly what steps you took next
[08:50] <Flannel> !install | Armageddon
[08:50] <kaboombob> tyrozard i havent looke much into x yet tho. your probably running gnome on it if its a normal install of ubuntu
[08:50] <Flannel> Armageddon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  four steps at the beginning
[08:50] <ubotu> Armageddon: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[08:50] <Armageddon> ty
[08:51] <Tyroazard> Ah screw it, I'll try xubuntu, if it's too different to ubuntu, or I don't like it. I'll download ubuntu's alternate cd
[08:51] <Tyroazard> Since the mac dislikes the normal cds
[08:51] <Tyroazard> ._.
[08:51] <josiah> what media application is the best for video and audio?
[08:51] <astro76> Tyroazard: you can also just install xubuntu-desktop right from ubuntu
[08:51] <josiah> I like amarok because it sorts all my music
[08:51] <josiah> but is there something better out there?
[08:51] <kaboombob> tyroazard http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/misc/94593-what-difference-between-gnome-kde-xfce-window-managers.html
[08:52] <Flannel> Tyroazard: Make sure you get the PPC version
[08:52] <Tyroazard> Yeah, I know.
[08:52] <Tyroazard> It's just the normal CD freezes at the black screen with an underscore after Please Wait.. Loading
[08:52] <dgjones> Armageddon, there's a video of how to install ubuntu on http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/MoS2007/09_Installing_Ubuntu_Part_1, that might help you
[08:52] <Tyroazard> Before you might say anything, I've waited 4 hours at that.
[08:52] <Flannel> Tyroazard: I don't even bother with the desktop CD anymore.  Alternate always works.  Its a safe bet
[08:53] <rgnr> Shadowpillar_:
[08:53] <Tyroazard> Just curious though, but what's the difference between the alt CD and the desktop CD?
[08:54] <dgjones> Tyroazard, the alternate uses a commmand line installer
[08:54] <lagos> I had similar issues installing my ubuntu... turns out they all were caused by poor ATI driver support. Switched to an Nvidia card, and never had any issues
[08:54] <Tyroazard> That's it?
[08:54] <Rhc_> .ultraslan.com
[08:54] <Tyroazard> Also, my mac seems to have frozen again, stuck at 83% (Installing the kernel - retrieving and installing linux-powerpc...
[08:55] <kaboombob> im having a problem getting my panasonic mp3 player to connect to my computer, im using 7.1, and it says failure to mount, its a usb device and "sudo rmmod ehci_hcd" isnt working
[08:55] <Flannel> Tyroazard: alternate CD uses dpkg to install stuff, provides more options.  The desktop CD is an image (the liveCD) that gets copied to the harddrive.  Provides few options
[08:55] <Armageddon> how do I re install the program if I canèt see the desktop
[08:55] <moad> i am using DC++ for linux and my downlaod speeds are very low , could anyone help me ?
[08:56] <olskolirc> hello again.  where can I get w32codecs or win32 codecs to play wma files
[08:56] <Tyroazard> Turns out I got the ubuntu alt CD after all. Thanks for all your help
[08:56] <astro76> !medibuntu | olskolirc
[08:56] <ubotu> olskolirc: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[08:56] <dgjones> !codecs | olskolirc
[08:56] <ubotu> olskolirc: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:57] <olskolirc> thanks
[08:58] <bgt772> Hey, anyone know the right place to ask about an ipcop box?
[08:58] <firefoxIE> do you have to know some command lines to handle the alt CD?
[08:58] <astro76> bgt772: #linux perhaps
[08:58] <bgt772> K, thanks
[09:00] <Tyroazard> .
[09:00] <Flannel> firefoxIE: no
[09:00] <Flannel> firefoxIE: Instead of being mouse point/click its keyboard arrow point/click
[09:01] <firefoxIE> I thought ALT CD is like DOS where u need to enter commands to tell them what to do
[09:01] <firefoxIE> unlike the LIVE CD
[09:01] <firefoxIE> where u just have about 10 options
[09:01] <Flannel> firefoxIE: nope.  Its just menus that are text based
[09:01] <Flannel> firefoxIE: The questions are essentially the same
[09:02] <firefoxIE> oh ok
[09:02] <firefoxIE> so what are LIVE CDs  categorised into?
[09:02] <firefoxIE> alt cd or desktop cd
[09:02] <dgjones> livecd is the desktop cd
[09:02] <Tyroazard> Desktop, probably.
[09:02] <flamesage> Has anyone tried out 8.04?
[09:03] <Armageddon> can someone help me privatly
[09:03] <Tyroazard> 8.04?
[09:03] <Flannel> flamesage: #ubuntu+1
[09:03] <Tyroazard> Where?
[09:03] <flamesage> ... fine
[09:03] <unicum> is there a way to tell filezilla not to encrypt the data channel?
[09:03] <Flannel> unicum: use FTP
[09:04] <unicum> no, that's not the same
[09:04] <unicum> because i need to login via tls
[09:04] <Armageddon> ok I have 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14 genetic, and I canèt get to desktop
[09:04] <unicum> kftpgrabber can do that, but i have gnome here and don't wanna have all those kde libraries
[09:04] <Flannel> unicum: TLS, by definition, is encrypted
[09:04] <kaboombob> tyroazard its very cutting edge it will be released like normal soon enough, but it still has quite a few bugs
[09:05] <Tyroazard> Aw.
[09:05] <kaboombob> you can get it pretty easy if you want it tho
[09:05] <Armageddon> ok I have 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14 genetic, and I canèt get to desktop
[09:05] <kaboombob> jsut gooleit
[09:05] <Tyroazard> *sigh* ..I do miss Ubuntu..
[09:05] <Flannel> Armageddon: You need ot tell us exactly what you did to get to here.  Without that, we can't really help
[09:05] <wopwop> does 7.10 have a default firewall? Ive directly connected a machine with 7.10 to one with 6.04 and can ping from 6.04 to 7.10 but not the other way around.
[09:05] <dgjones> !firewall | wopwop
[09:05] <ubotu> wopwop: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:06] <astro76> wopwop: no rules by default
[09:06] <Armageddon> I downloaded the top of this page
[09:06] <Armageddon> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[09:06] <dgjones> wopwop, as far as i'm aware, although a firewall is supplied, its not turned automatically
[09:06] <kaboombob> armageddon try pressing ctrl+alt+F7
[09:06] <Flannel> wopwop: As of 6.10 (I believe), avahi is enabled by default
[09:06] <unicum> Flannel, it probably is, but why does kftpgrabber support fxp client-to-client connections and ftp via tls then?
[09:06] <firefoxIE> gnome or kde which one is better
[09:07] <kaboombob> firefoxie its up to you
[09:07] <wopwop> ubotu: thanks. Im a bit stuck. Need to use scp to copy some files but can ping only one way. If its not a firewall problem then what do you think?
[09:07] <Armageddon> I downloaded the top of this page
[09:07] <Armageddon> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[09:07] <kebinusan> firefoxIE: thats like asking if waffles or pancakes are better
[09:07] <Flannel> unicum: FTP can be tunneled through TLS.  It still uses TLS, and still will be encrypted (from what I understand).
[09:07] <unicum> well, how do i do that in filezilla?
[09:07] <Armageddon> so I donèt go insane can someone privatly help me
[09:08] <Armageddon> plz
[09:08] <kaboombob> wopwop ubotu is a bot
[09:08] <wopwop> kaboombob: oh how embarrassing
[09:08] <Flannel> wopwop: You'll need to install openssh-server on the box you want to scp to
[09:08] <kaboombob> its ok i found it amusing
[09:08] <langnesse> hallo
[09:09] <kaboombob> im having a problem getting my panasonic mp3 player to connect to my computer, im using 7.1, and it says failure to mount, its a usb device and "sudo rmmod ehci_hcd" isnt working, any help would be nice
[09:09] <Armageddon> ok, if you installed and fèd up how do I reinsall ubuntu on my computer
[09:09] <Flannel> Armageddon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  follow the four steps at the top of that page
[09:10] <dgjones> Armageddon, do you have access to a cd burner? if you do, you're best bet is to download the ubuntu livecd and install using that
[09:10] <Armageddon> I alrwady installed something though
[09:10] <idr> kaboombob; I've got the same problem mounting mp3 player - ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules...any thoughts anyone?
[09:10] <kaboombob> idr exactly the same problem
[09:10] <zenobius> shouldnt the message of the day include a statement "read help.ubuntu.com/community & wiki.ubuntu.com before asking simple questions here?
[09:10] <Armageddon> it will not let me get to the desktop
[09:10] <lmnts> Did anyone succeed in installing Ubuntu dual-boot with Vista on a T61 and preserve the service partition?
[09:10] <astro76> zenobius: it wouldn't help
[09:10] <wopwop> does anyone have any suggestions? I have a network cable connecting 2 machines (A and B) and can ping A from B but not B from A
[09:10] <kaboombob> idr and i `cant edit /proc/modules
[09:10] <kaboombob> it opens as blank
[09:11] <lmnts> ...or any Thinkpad at all.
[09:11] <Flannel> Armageddon: reinstall.  Do it properly.  We don't support whatever method you used, since we have no idea what it does.
[09:11] <Flannel> lmnts: thinkwiki has a good piece on how to keep the service partition
[09:11] <Armageddon> how do I reinstall what command cause !install does not exist
[09:11] <steckel> is there any way to convert from an xfs with internal metadata log to an external one without reformatting ?
[09:11] <lmnts> Flannel: Will have a look.
[09:11] <Buyydee> lmnts: i have vista and ubuntu installed on my t61p, first ubuntu then vista
[09:12] <Flannel> Armageddon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[09:12] <lmnts> Buyydee: Did you use the recovery installation-method for Vista (to get all the neat features with the factory-installation)?
[09:13] <dgjones> Armageddon, Download a proper LiveCD from the ubuntu website, burn that to a cd, then restart your computer with that cd and the computer will run Ubuntu, when it starts up, the desktop will have an icon to install ubuntu
[09:13] <Buyydee> lmnts: no, i manually installed vista and recovered grub afterwards
[09:13] <Buyydee> lmnts: i got my thinkpad without os
[09:14] <zenobius> cpu just hit 100% with only gaim running
[09:14] <lmnts> Buyydee: Ok. I want to retain the Lenovo specific software in Vista. And hopefully even retain the possiblity to reinstall Vista with the service partition.
[09:14] <zenobius> petering out to 76%
[09:14] <th0r> zenobius open a terminal and type 'top'. See what is running that cpu so hard
[09:14] <cwillu> zenobius, what process is using it?
[09:14] <Buyydee> lmnts: the software piece is easy: just go to lenovo and download the utility manager there, it will install all features (wlan, battery applet...) automatically
[09:15] <zenobius> sorry i have also : tilda, conky and webboard. using gnome on a dual desktop in framebuffer mode...interesting
[09:15] <Buyydee> lmnts: i haven't heard of a service partition before, cannot help you there
[09:15] <zenobius> ahhh and ... pinot at 64%
[09:15] <creature> Hello. I seem to have hung the Ubuntu altnernate installer. I was setting up a moderately complex bit of partitioning, it told me it wanted to finalise the RAID setup, and my PC sat there for a long time and worked. But it's been 10 hours now, and there's no HD activity, and the load average is very close to 0.
[09:16] <lmnts> Buyydee: Ok. FYI it's a partion that start some kind of rescue and recovery software when you press the Thinkvantage button after power-up.
[09:16] <cwillu> lmnts, as long as you don't wipe the service partition, you'll be able to boot into it
[09:16] <Lokii-> does anyone here know how to create a theme archive for local login.. i know how to add one but i want to create one that looks like a CIA Terminal Login... anyone ?
[09:16] <creature> But the installer just says "Please wait" at 42% on the 'Starting up the partitioner' stage, which is where it's been for about 10 hours now.
[09:16] <zenobius> back to 10-19% now
[09:16] <creature> So, what do I do?
[09:16] <cwillu> lmnts, my preferred approach is to just image the whole drive, compress it, and stick it somewhere safe
[09:16] <zenobius> all indexers push it to max?
[09:16] <cwillu> creature, how much memory do you have?
[09:16] <lmnts> cwillu: I've read that it's really picky if you change anything with the partitions.
[09:16] <kaboombob> i need help mounting an mp3 player to my computer please help
[09:17] <steckel> lmnts: have you tried shrinking your vista partition to make place for ubuntu ?
[09:17] <creature> cwillu: 2.5GB.
[09:17] <zenobius> can i get a cpu throttler?
[09:17] <cwillu> zenobius, nice/renice
[09:17] <astro76> zenobius: sure why not, the task is probably nice'd down so everything else takes priority
[09:17] <lmnts> cwillu: And also that it needs some specific things in MBR. Perhaps it's only a new entry in grub.conf after installation.
[09:17] <zenobius> just a thought: it could be indexing the logs from this irc channel.
[09:18] <cwillu> lmnts?  there's nothing special in the mbr, almost guaranteed;  granted though, that imaging the drive will grab the mbr at the same time
[09:18] <astro76> zenobius: oh it was gaim
[09:18] <lmnts> steckel: That's what I would do but I wanted to have a look around first if it would trash my service partition.
[09:18] <zenobius> yeah, approaching bloat class
[09:18] <lmnts> cwillu: http://bbqfrogs.com/ThinkPadT61Dir/TPT61WindowsDir/T61WindowsXP.htm have a look at "1."
[09:18] <astro76> zenobius: I would never use it for IRC ;)
[09:18] <Buyydee> lmnts: according to cwillu, i'd approach it like that: backup first, of couse, then partition the hard disk to vista, service partition and free space (using gparted, if you like) and then install ubuntu in the free space, allowing it to create swap partitions and so on. see if grub recognises the service partition, if not, edit a manual entry in menu.lst after finding the partition with fdisk -l
[09:19] <idr> Kaboombob and I need your help mounting mp3 players - ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules
[09:19] <idr> Anyone?
[09:19] <cwillu> creature, was it the 'starting partitioner', or was it after you saw the resize partition stuff?
[09:19] <lmnts> cwillu: Probably I will do an image.
[09:19] <cwillu> lmnts, looking
[09:19] <steckel> lmnts: i dont think it will trash you service partition as that is a normal partition which is just hidden from windows
[09:20] <lmnts> steckel: Agreed.
[09:20] <creature> cwillu: I created my partitions, all of which were physical volumes for RAID. Then I set up RAID, some of which were physical volumes for encryption. Then I entered a key for the encryption, and chose 'configure encrypted devices' or similar, and it told me it had to write some stuff to disk. And that's the stage I'm at.
[09:20] <lmnts> Buyydee: The service partition starts a slimmed down Windows (or so it says when it starts) so it's likely that grub can boot it.
[09:21] <cwillu> lmnts, """It will still be bootable from other boot loaders - grub for instance"""
[09:21] <Buyydee> lmnts: well, then give it a try :)
[09:21] <cwillu> lmnts, is there a button hotkey that it's talking about?
[09:21] <lmnts> Yep, definitly. I need Linux on it for sure.
[09:21] <Buyydee> cwillu: yes
[09:22] <lmnts> cwillu: Yes, think it's called Thinkvantage button.
[09:22] <cwillu> lmnts, sounds like gimmicky breakware to me
[09:22] <lmnts> It's a "magic" button that starts that service partition at POST and inside Vista it starts some management software (to disable/enable hardware, use vidoe-out and so on).
[09:23] <steckel> lmnts: if i recall correctly there is an article on the lenovo website stating on how to install linux as a second os without sacrificing the hidden partition
[09:23] <Buyydee> cwillu: it's supposed to be a backup systemwhich stays unaffected by viruses etc, if your system goes down. pretty redundant on a dual boot system
[09:23] <lmnts> cwillu: Yes it is, but actually rather good to have inside Vista. That's why I want to keep the original Vista and not installa a fresh one.
[09:23] <lmnts> Normally I just wipe the factory-installed Windows and install fresh but IBM is rather good at this.
[09:23] <zenobius> vista reminds me of that toaster on redwarf
[09:23] <steckel> lmnts: that document might also be available in windows when hitting the thinkvantage button
[09:23] <lmnts> Sony on the other hand is really annoying. Wiped it off with my last laptop.
[09:24] <Feisty> I downloaded the firefox file from firefox.com
[09:24] <Feisty> what do I do with it to install it?
[09:24] <lmnts> steckel: Oh, that would be really good. Will search their website.
[09:24] <linux__> espanol?
[09:24] <cwillu> creature, sorry, beyond my expertise
[09:24] <Buyydee> Feisty: delete, go to synaptic package manager and install firefox from there. spares you a lot of trouble
[09:24] <dgjones> !es | linux__
[09:24] <ubotu> linux__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[09:24] <cwillu> creature, beyond suggesting a simpler config to install and setting up raid afterwards
[09:25] <Feisty> oh ok thanks
[09:25] <Feisty> but is it possible to install from the gz tar file?
[09:25] <ubud> how to tell the ip address of ubuntu
[09:25] <creature> cwillu: I'm not sure that's an option.
[09:25] <th0r> ubud ifconfig
[09:25] <cwillu> Feisty, it's possible, but you won't get the automatic updates from ubuntu
[09:25] <Buyydee> Feisty: of course, but compared to the two clicks in synaptic it's rather complicated and yes, no updates
[09:26] <creature> cwillu: I think I'm going to give the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto?highlight=%28encryptedfilesystem%29 a try.
[09:26] <cwillu> creature, I'll have a look if you want
[09:26] <creature> cwillu: (Boot from LiveCD, setup partitions in that.
[09:26] <Armageddon> can someone PLZ PLZ help me privatly I screwed up my pc
[09:27] <cwillu> creature, is it still running?
[09:27] <cwillu> creature, how big is the partition?
[09:27] <swombat> on a previous day, I deleted a couple of files in /etc/wordpress which are installed by "sudo apt-get install wordpress" - how can I get them to re-appear? ... (remove/reinstall doesn't work)
[09:27] <Armageddon> why won't anyone help me
[09:27] <creature> There are 3 partitions. One RAID1 of 2 300MB partitions (/boot), one RAID0 of 2 300MB partitions (swap), and one RAID5 of 4 500GB partitions.
[09:28] <cwillu> because you're asking for a bunch of free troubleshooting advice without telling us what the problem is, or even waiting longer than 2 minutes?
[09:28] <creature> Armageddon: Don't ask to ask, and don't ask for private help. Just state your problem and if someone can help they probably will.
[09:28] <Armageddon> I have a 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14 genetic a (recovery mode) and a memtest86
[09:28] <th0r> Armageddon someone did help you. You are trying to install in a fashion that very few use...probably no one here has tried it. Our best advice was, and still is, download an iso and install from cd.
[09:28] <Armageddon> which do I use to re install?
[09:28] <cwillu> creature, I just notice that the guide you linked said that 100gb might take as long as 20 hours to finish writing
[09:29] <cwillu> Armageddon, what are you trying to do?
[09:29] <creature> cwillu: I think that's just if you're being super-paranoid and writing random data to the whole disk before setting stuff up.
[09:29] <Armageddon> re install the right way to use ubuntu
[09:29] <Armageddon> but it won't even let me get to the desktop
[09:29] <cwillu> creature, do you know that the process you're using isn't doing that?
[09:29] <creature> cwillu: I'd be surprised if the installer was trying to do that, and as mentioned the load average is nothing and there's no disk activity.
[09:30] <steckel> lmnts: and have a look here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Rescue_and_Recovery
[09:30] <swombat> on a previous day, I deleted a couple of files in /etc/wordpress which are installed by "sudo apt-get install wordpress" - how can I get them to re-appear? ... (remove/reinstall doesn't work)
[09:30] <Armageddon> I need a link to the proper install that I can burn onto a DVD
[09:30] <cwillu> creature, okay, missed that before
[09:30] <f0cus> how's ubuntu for security tools?
[09:30] <th0r> !install > Armageddon
[09:30] <dgjones> Armageddon, just to check, burn to a DVD or a cd?
[09:30] <cwillu> Armageddon, http://www.ubuntu.com/
[09:30] <Armageddon> dvd
[09:31] <n2diy> Armageddon: memtest86 won't install anything, it justs test your ram, and it is very good at that.
[09:31] <Armageddon> I screwed up and wanna reboot the os
[09:31] <cwillu> f0cus, mostly available, but it's not really designed for it out of the box
[09:31] <swombat> Armageddon: reboot is not reinstall
[09:31] <swombat> fyi
[09:31] <f0cus> thanks
[09:31] <f0cus> cwillu
[09:31] <Armageddon> I wanna install the os properly
[09:31] <Armageddon> can I do that if I messed up
[09:32] <swombat> Armageddon: download it, burn it to a DVD, and reboot the computer with the BIOS set up to boot on the DVD
[09:32] <swombat> then follow the on-screen instructions
[09:32] <dgjones> Armageddon, which country are you in - there's different download locations for different countries
[09:32] <cwillu> Armageddon, yes, just download the cd or dvd image from ubuntu.com, burn it, boot off it, and hit the install button
[09:32] <Armageddon> ok what link do I download to burn it onto a DVD
[09:32] <dusty-sts> Hey guys I have sound working (for instance gnome sounds and xmms sounds work fine) when I try to configure Eiga sip phone (Software phone) it can't play the test sound - whats could be the problem?
[09:32] <kaboombob> idr have you had other usb problems?
[09:32] <swombat> on a previous day, I deleted a couple of files in /etc/wordpress which are installed by "sudo apt-get install wordpress" - how can I get them to re-appear? ... (remove/reinstall doesn't work)
[09:32] <dgjones> Armageddon, which country are you in - there's different download locations for different countries
[09:32] <Armageddon> canada
[09:33] <_bt> swombat: try sudo apt-get remove --purge wordpress && sudo apt-get install wordpress
[09:33] <swombat> _bt: cheers, will try that now
[09:33] <n2diy> swombat: sudo apt-get re-install program name.
[09:34] <kaboombob> idr u still here?
[09:34] <Armageddon> if you wanna re install everything you put what?
[09:34] <swombat> _bt: thanks, that worked!
[09:34] <idr> Kaboombob - yes ,multi card reader and camera connect but are not happy
[09:34] <Armageddon> sudo apt-get re-install ubuntu?
[09:34] <swombat> n2diy: thanks for the help. _bt's method worked
[09:34] <acidfire2008> can anyone help me on configuring pure-ftpd in ssh?
[09:34] <swombat> Armageddon: no
[09:34] <kaboombob> idr did you have to black list anything that you remember?
[09:34] <_bt> :))
[09:35] <n2diy> swombat: good luck
[09:35] <swombat> n2diy: cheers
[09:35] <Armageddon> ok so I fucked up my pc, now what?
[09:35] <th0r> acidfire2008 you configure pure-ftpd as usual, then tunnel port 21 through ssh
[09:35] <Armageddon> plz help
[09:35] <idr> No - but not sure what you mean. Only been with Ubuntu 3 weeks!!
[09:35] <Armageddon> tell me it's not garbage now
[09:35] <th0r> guys...quit feeding the troll and he will go away
[09:36] <swombat> Armageddon: just put your PC outside and leave it there for 48 hours and it'll be fine. Just needs some fresh air.
[09:36] <Armageddon> omg
[09:36] <Armageddon> I need help and you mock me?
[09:36] <kaboombob> idr go to /etc/modprobe.d and open blacklist in texteditor
[09:37] <acidfire2008> lol i dont know hwo to configure pure-ftpd and im talking im in a term under ssh
[09:37] <acidfire2008> i neeed to change port but i dont know which file i need to add to the config
[09:37] <Armageddon> all I need is the proper link to download and burn as a data dvd to re install unbuntu for canada
[09:37] <phreck> How can i get my smartphone all synced up and shit
[09:37] <swombat> [09:38] Ignoring ALL from Armageddon
[09:38] <cwillu> swombat, what's the command for that?  I've been having trouble bending xchat to my will in this matter
[09:38] <creature> What's the difference between the CD and DVD versions of Ubuntu?
[09:38] <th0r> acidfire2008 ah..ok....I use vsftpd so can't be sure...but check for pureftpd.conf (use locate?)
[09:38] <swombat> cwillu: dunno, I'm on a mac - using MacIrssi
[09:38] <swombat> cwillu: use irssi - it's the best :-)
[09:38] <Armageddon> U GUYS ARE ALL ASSHOLES, what goes around comes around
[09:38] <dgjones> Armageddon, i can't find a link for an official dvd version, can you burn to a cd?
[09:38] <kaboombob> idr u there yet?
[09:38] <Armageddon> dg thank you
[09:38] <th0r> acidfire2008 should be in /etc or maybe /etc/pureftp
[09:38] <Armageddon> no I only have DVD
[09:38] <acidfire2008> it si
[09:38] <acidfire2008> it is
[09:39] <acidfire2008> but u gotta add files to it
[09:39] <idr> kaboombob: done that and??
[09:39] <creature> dgjones: You have to follow the "see all download locations" option before you get at the DVD image.
[09:39] <Daviey> !ops
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[09:39] <acidfire2008> there is no one config
[09:39] <Madpilot> Daviey, ?
[09:39] <phreck> Anyone know about syncing smartphones?
[09:39] <kaboombob> ok do you see blacklist ehci mentioned in it?
[09:39] <dgjones> creature, i'm trying that, but not finding any for gutsy
[09:39] <lmnts> phreck: Synced with what? apt-cache search opensync and shit.
[09:39] <kaboombob> idr ok do you see blacklist ehci mentioned in it
[09:39] <phreck> sorry
[09:39] <phreck> what i really want to do is allow my phone to be used as a data connection
[09:39] <phreck> it is a smartphone
[09:39] <creature> dgjones: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors and search for 'DVD downloads'.
[09:40] <idr> kaboombob: no mention of ehci
[09:40] <creature> Which is 7.10, which is gutsy, isn't it?
[09:40] <lmnts> phreck: I'm trying that myself. Don't know for sure.
[09:40] <cwillu> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/ is the dvd's
[09:40] <kaboombob> k maybe that was just my problem ill brb let me know if anyone else comes in to help us when i get back
[09:41] <paull> Hey all - does anyone know a tool to display a web page for a time period then change page display for a time, then change etc etc. console util preferred, X OK. prefer not to script this. it's for a status display in an office
[09:41] <dgjones> cwillu, thanks
[09:41] <th0r> acidfire2008 according to the web it is /etc/ftpd/pureftpd.conf
[09:41] <acidfire2008> yea but for ubuntu its different
[09:41] <acidfire2008> pm?
[09:41] <dgjones> Armageddon has gone anyway
[09:42] <cwillu> acidfire2008, locate is your friend
[09:42] <cwillu> acidfire2008, synaptic can tell you what files the package created too
[09:42] <phreck> anyone know how to share  data connection via USB
[09:42] <open_lad> how do we set path for jdk globally in ubuntu. not for just single user?
[09:44] <th0r> open_lad check for /etc/skel/.profile
[09:45] <open_lad> th0r, what do i need to append?
[09:46] <astro76> open_lad: that's only for newly created users, you should add it to /etc/environment
[09:46] <astro76> and it's .bash_profile in ubuntu anyway
[09:47] <astro76> oh there is a .profile
[09:47] <th0r> astro76 I was close <smile> Was looking for the default path....hadn't found /etc/environment yet
[09:47] <lmnts> cwillu: An image of the harddrive will take up all of the 160GB, unless compressed? I would create it with dd but is there a better way?
[09:47] <cwillu> lmnts, if the drive is mostly empty, it'll be pretty small
[09:47] <open_lad> astro76, what i need to write ?? i dont know how to set classpath
[09:48] <lmnts> cwillu: dd does a bit by bit copy?
[09:48] <acidfire2008> th0r
[09:48] <acidfire2008> u there?
[09:48] <cwillu> lmnts, I usually do dd if=/dev/sda bs=65536|gzip|netcat target.local
[09:48] <lmnts> But I need to compress it and then it will be greatly reduced.
[09:48] <th0r> acidfire2008 ?
[09:48] <lmnts> cwillu: Ok
[09:48] <acidfire2008> i jus tinstalled vsftpd
[09:48] <Buyydee> is there a program like checkdisk for linux? a ntfs partition on my external hdd seems to be corrupted
[09:48] <cwillu> lmnts, that's a remote copy fyi
[09:48] <open_lad> i have jdk in /usr/java/jdk***
[09:48] <acidfire2008> is there a config i can edit for it?
[09:48] <creature> Thanks for your help, guys.
[09:48] <dusty-sts> Hey guys I have sound working (for instance gnome sounds and xmms sounds work fine) when I try to configure Eiga sip phone (Software phone) it can't play the test sound - whats could be the problem?
[09:49] <n2diy> Buyydee: fsck
[09:49] <th0r> acidfire2008 yes, it is /etc/vsftpd.conf
[09:49] <Suva> Buyydee: I don't think it is good idea to check NTFS part with linux
[09:49] <cwillu> lmnts, you need to have another drive on the local machine to just pipe gzip to a file, otherwise netcat is a handy way to pipe it to a different machine
[09:49] <Buyydee> so i'd better switch to windows and repair it there?
[09:49] <acidfire2008> can u enable userFXP with this?
[09:49] <cwillu> Buyydee, it can be done, but windows is probably the better approach
[09:50] <Buyydee> fine, thank you
[09:50] <lmnts> cwillu: Yes, I've done similar things before. Though didn't pipe it through gzip that time.
[09:50] <cwillu> lmnts, one of these days I'm gonna have to investigate lvm;  live fsck'ing and backups would be nice
[09:50] <open_lad> astro76, what i need to write ?? i dont know how to set classpath
[09:50] <olskolirc> I'm having a hard time getting flash into opera.  any suggestions?
[09:51] <open_lad> i have jdk in /usr/java/jdk***
[09:51] <cwillu> lmnts, might consider doing gzip --faster;  it's really the empty space that you care about, no sense wasting an extra hour to get the last .5gb
[09:51] <acidfire2008> hey th0r can u enable fxp with this ftpd?
[09:51] <th0r> acidfire2008 don't even know what that is <smile>
[09:51] <acidfire2008> lol
[09:51] <n2diy> olskolirc: run it from a command line, and take note of the errors when it shutsdown?
[09:52] <astro76> open_lad: I don't know about java, I answered your where to put a environment variable question
[09:52] <acidfire2008> for real i need to so i can fxp from my house
[09:52] <cwillu> acidfire2008, any particular reason why you don't use scp et al?
[09:52] <olskolirc> what n2diy ?
[09:52] <acidfire2008> i dont see a place to edit the port at th0r
[09:52] <n2diy> olskolirc: open a terminal, and run Opera.
[09:53] <lmnts> cwillu: LVM snapshots is nice, but I only used it on servers. But does it help with live fsck:ing? That is a feature of the actual filesystem, no?
[09:53] <olskolirc> ok
[09:53] <Tyroazard> Uhm, I just got ubuntu on the mac, and booting it up shows a discolored ubuntu loading thing
[09:53] <Tyroazard> The colors are screwed up, I don't remember how to decribe it currently.
[09:53] <cwillu> lmnts, dunno, apparently there's some google code that uses lvm to do that;  there was discussion about getting it into hardy, but it's not trusted enough yet
[09:54] <lmnts> cwillu: Oh, great things then!
[09:54] <ocs> Hi. I have a process which uses the serial port (ttyS0). for some reasons, the process makes the port blocked, and after killing that process the port remains unavailable. however fuser /dev/ttys0 dosen't give me anithing after the process is killed, but the port remains blocked... what could I do? thnks
[09:54] <olskolirc> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1) and ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2) is all it scrolled n2diy
[09:54] <lmnts> I'm going to try and use Vista shrink support in Disk Management. Doing a defrag now.
[09:55] <n2diy> olskolirc: hmm, ???
[09:56] <th0r> acidfire2008 http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-74099.html
[09:56]  * Paolinho gone
[09:57] <th0r> acidfire2008 here is more detail on the conf file http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/ref-guide/s1-ftp-vsftpd-conf.html
[09:57] <acidfire2008> i dont see listen_port in the config
[09:57] <acidfire2008> i did a search even
[09:58] <th0r> acidfire2008 just add it
[10:00] <Tyroazard> Uh
[10:00] <Tyroazard> I just got ubuntu on my 800mhz, 768mb max
[10:00] <Tyroazard> *mac
[10:00] <Tyroazard> And now it's past the loading screen
[10:00] <zenwryly> I'm working on backup strategies and it seems like apt repositories are a wonderful backup of everything not in /etc /var, /usr/local, and /home (maybe /opt too).  If I have those backed up, how can I tell apt to reinstall the rest of the system?
[10:00] <Tyroazard> But it only shows a command prompt style screen
[10:01] <Tyroazard> BusyBox v1.1.3 or something.
[10:01] <Tyroazard> Help?
[10:01] <kaboombob> idr did i miss anything?
[10:01] <acidfire2008> th0r how do u restart the ftpd?
[10:01] <zenwryly> I see that I can do "aptitude reinstall ~i" but if all I had was a restore of /etc /var /home and /usr/local, how could I restore to the point where I could run aptitude?
[10:01] <th0r> acidfire2008 /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[10:02] <Tyroazard> kaboombob: Loaded ubuntu, shows a CMD like screen with BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) Built in shell (ash)
[10:03] <Tyroazard> Help? Please?
[10:03] <acidfire2008> how do u add users bc i dont think it worked
[10:03] <n2diy> zenwryly: take a look at mondo?
[10:03] <acidfire2008> [L] 500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in 'ftp_username':ftp
[10:03] <acidfire2008> and its still on 21 hmmm
[10:03] <zenwryly> n2diy: doesn't it do full restores?
[10:04] <phreck> anyone in here know how to get a smartphone working as a modem in linux
[10:04] <th0r> acidfire2008 you need to turn off anonymous access which, if I remember correctly, will enable local user logins.
[10:04] <n2diy> zenwryly: I'm not sure, it changes daily, and I haven't played with it in months.
[10:04] <acidfire2008> like use the users on the machine for login?
[10:04] <acidfire2008> whats about the port change?
[10:04] <dusty-sts> Hey guys I have sound working (for instance gnome sounds and xmms sounds work fine) when I try to configure Eiga sip phone (Software phone) it can't play the test sound - whats could be the problem?
[10:05] <acidfire2008> i edited the /etc/vsftpd.conf file to add that
[10:05] <th0r> acidfire2008 I have never changed the port on ftp...always ran it through a tunnel, so I only have that url I sent to work from and it said to add that line
[10:05] <zenwryly> well what I'm thinking is that /etc and /var already have all the data aptitude needs in order to reinstall packages lost
[10:05] <zenwryly> including all the apt sources
[10:06] <zenwryly> so if I have those backed up, then I shouldn't need to back up the rest of the system
[10:06] <ssn> hi
[10:06] <th0r> acidfire2008 check the vsftpd.conf man page for a full set of options.
[10:06] <zenwryly> I just want to be clear on the restore procedure
[10:06] <Parsec300> Hi ppl. Anyone know about bluesnarfer?
[10:07] <th0r> acidfire2008 two options...anonymous_enable=NO and local_enable=YES
[10:07] <steckel> zwenryly: you can export a list of installed packages with "dpkg --get selections" on the running system
[10:07] <th0r> acidfire2008 unless you WANT anonymous access
[10:07] <acidfire2008> lol no
[10:07] <ssn> i have to much ram and i think gutsy doesnt appreciate iit
[10:07] <ssn> it
[10:07] <n2diy> zenwryly: Restoring is the trick, and testing is the only way to confirm it. But you can loose symlinks, so you certainly need to test your restore procedure.
[10:08] <danube> phreck: try using gnome-ppp
[10:08] <th0r> acidfire2008 is this just for you or do you have other users?
[10:08] <acidfire2008> just 1
[10:08] <phreck> danube: what is that
[10:08] <dan_> longshot: anyone seen an issue where after you kill one process that's listening on one port, then somehow the next highest PID starts listening on that port??
[10:08]  * syc__ mohon pamid
[10:08] <th0r> acidfire2008 I set up sshfs instead of using ftp...allows me to mount the server as a folder in ~
[10:09] <steckel> zwenryly: on a minimal system you can import that list with "dpkg --set-selections" ... "apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[10:09] <phreck> a graphical dial up connector?
[10:09] <phreck> ill be using usb to connect, and it wont be dial up
[10:10] <phreck> i have a data connection w/ phone
[10:10] <steckel> zwenryly: but this will only reinstall dpkg-packages, things you copied into the filesystem will be missing
[10:10] <zenwryly> n2diy: well the only symlinks that I can think of that wouldn't be restored by reinstall would be the alternatives
[10:10] <kaboombob> "ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules" how do i amke it exist?
[10:10] <zenwryly> but my main question would be how to bootstrap the restore
[10:10] <th0r> kaboombob try 'modprobe ehci_hcd'
[10:11] <n2diy> zenwryly: I see, but you won't know that, until you try it? :/
[10:12] <kaboombob> th0r what does that do exactly?
[10:13] <zenwryly> n2diy: yes and I plan to try it, but what I don't know to *start* trying it is how to bootstrap the restroe
[10:13] <zenwryly> if /usr/bin/aptitude is gone, what do I do to get back to the point where I can do
[10:13] <zenwryly> "aptitude reinstall ~i"
[10:14] <n2diy> zenwryly: mondo will create a boot cd, or floppy.
[10:14] <danube> phreck: make sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp
[10:14] <zenwryly>  /var/lib/aptitude will be intact. but not the binary
[10:14] <pvh_sa|wrk> hi! i'm trying to compile something against unixodbc on feisty... none of the unixodbc packages seem to install the shims (like libodbcmyS.so) that you need to connect unixodbc to mysql... anyone every worked with this?
[10:14] <th0r> kaboombob it installs the module ehci_hcd. You can't put things into /proc, the system puts things there as it operates. The error indicates (I think) that the module isn't loaded
[10:15] <ikonia> pvh_sa|wrk: each db package has it's own, eg: instead of looking for unix-odbc-mysql, look for mysql-odbc-
[10:15] <pvh_sa|wrk> ikonia, i install libmyodbc - but are you talking about something else?
[10:15] <borbus> Hi, you know samba and sftp "mounts"... where are they located on the filesystem?
[10:15] <ikonia> pvh_sa|wrk: I think there are others too
[10:15] <ikonia> borbus: sftp doesn't mount anything
[10:15] <pvh_sa|wrk> ahhh... http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/odbcinst1debian1
[10:16] <phreck> danube, then what lol
[10:16] <borbus> ikonia, yeah I know it doesn't really mount anything... but is there a way to browse to it in the actual filesystem?
[10:16] <th0r> kaboombob BTW...did it work?
[10:16] <borbus> Or would I have to create some kind of symlink?
[10:16] <ikonia> borbus: it's an ftp client
[10:16] <kaboombob> sort of but only for a few seconds
[10:16] <borbus> Ok, what about samba?
[10:16] <danube> phreck: then open gnome-ppp from your menu and connect using device ttyUSB0 (as which your connected smartphone should have been recognized)
[10:17] <ikonia> borbus: what about samba ?
[10:17] <phreck> hmmm
[10:17] <borbus> Well how can I browse to a file on a samba share using mplayer for example, which only shows the normal filesystem
[10:17] <phreck> yea its not giving me a usb option...
[10:17] <Veganarkismo> Hey everyone it's Librustralia from before
[10:17] <HeN> I am getting "Couldn't get cwd: No such file or directory" while trying to install msttcorefonts, any ideas?
[10:18] <Veganarkismo> Is anyone here familiar with the program "Parted Magic"?
[10:18] <th0r> borbus you mount the samba share to a local folder
[10:18] <danube> phreck: what is not giving you an usb option? the app? the phone? ubuntu?
[10:18] <n2diy> Veganarkismo: so, did you librate oz?
[10:18] <phreck> app
[10:18] <borbus> So what do you link to? smb://etc ?
[10:18] <n2diy> librate/liberate
[10:18] <phreck> the device section doesnt have a usb....
[10:19] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: :( kinda sorta
[10:19] <astro76> borbus: you mount it in your filesystem like anything else... also for ssh there's sshfuse
[10:19] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: Im still screwed
[10:19] <th0r> borbus you use 'mount -t smb' not sure of the exact syntax...check the man page for mount
[10:19] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: lol
[10:19] <borbus> mount or link?
[10:19] <steckel> borbus: you can mount a ftp-share with curlftpfs and a directory on a ssh-server with sshfs ..
[10:20] <th0r> astro76 have you tried fusesmb?
[10:20] <n2diy> Veganarkismo: your old nick was cooler, good luck with your linux stuff.
[10:20] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: I acctually got my windoze bootloader back
[10:20] <astro76> th0r: I have not
[10:20] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: then it disapeared again
[10:20] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: and now it says ntldr is missing
[10:20] <th0r> astro76 puts all the workgroups in a mountpoint...just like browsing the local fiel system
[10:21] <n2diy> Veganarkismo: really, oh, bummer. What's ntldr? network loader?
[10:21] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: BUT :D the thingy in the program thingy says it recognizes there's a 120gb partition
[10:21] <th0r> astro76 I click on ~/network and see a folder for each workgroup
[10:21] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: and that was my linux partition
[10:21] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: i think so
[10:21] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: I just don't know how to recover it :(
[10:21] <kaboombob> i have an older usb 1 mp3 player that i cant get to mount any help would be nice
[10:21] <amerio> guys I have a problem with my panel , can any1 help?
[10:22] <HeN> I am getting "Couldn't get cwd: No such file or directory" while trying to install msttcorefonts, any ideas?
[10:22] <kaboombob> amerio whtas the problem
[10:22] <astro76> th0r: sounds nice
[10:22] <n2diy> Veganarkismo: Windows is working, and you are now happy with that? And now you want to load Ubuntu?
[10:22] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: no it's not working
[10:22] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: The bootloader worked (although it still came up with the BSOD)
[10:23] <th0r> astro76 yeah...made life so much simpler. enter the user/pw in the config file and log into whatever shares you like automatically on login
[10:23] <Duzchip> Hi there, i've got a HP nx6325 and cant get the broadcom-wireless-card working, anyone able to give me some hints of good guides to get it working please? i've tried googling but i can only find older guides which seems rather out-of-date
[10:23] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: worked (past tense)
[10:23] <astro76> th0r: I will have to tell some people at work about it
[10:23] <kaboombob> amerio what is the problem
[10:23] <n2diy> Veganarkismo:  may it rest in piece.
[10:23] <WaZ`> Duzchip: what broadcom chip? 43xx?
[10:23] <amerio> kaboombob well , I unchecked the expand option in panel properties , added some launchers and organized the icons but each time I restart i get the old grouping of the panel , and when I start applications the panel width expands
[10:23] <Veganarkismo> :(
[10:23] <Duzchip> WaZ': think so, cant really see it anywhere, i'll try to check it
[10:24] <WaZ`> Duzchip: lspci Duzchip
[10:24] <kaboombob> amerio sry i dont know what to tell you
[10:24] <n2diy> Veganarkismo: I can help with Ubuntu, but I havent' seen the  BSOD  since Winders 95.
[10:24] <Duzchip> WaZ': BCM4310 it seems
[10:25] <WaZ`> Duzchip: what version of ubuntu?
[10:25] <Duzchip> 7.10
[10:25] <WaZ`> have you installed restricted drivers Duzchip?
[10:25] <th0r> astro76 just a side note...fuseiso is also nice if you haven't seen it
[10:25] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: lol, I acctually wanna get rid of windoze, but It's the partition recovery that I need help with
[10:25] <Duzchip> WaZ': eeh, nope, its a totally fresh install of ubuntu with only fluxbox (a few fluxbox-addons) and build-essential installed
[10:25] <th0r> astro76 fuse is a godsend
[10:26] <WaZ`> Duzchip: go to System>Administration>Restricted Drivers
[10:26] <Duzchip> oki, just logging into gnome instead (using fluxbox)
[10:26] <WaZ`> Duzchip: it should show the restricted drivers
[10:26] <Duzchip> Oki
[10:26] <WaZ`> Duzchip: or you can just sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:27] <Duzchip> only shows ATI accelerated graphics driver
[10:27] <n2diy> Veganarkismo: well, if you aren't worried about your winders stuff, just do a full blown Ubuntu install. But... You'll loose all your winders stuff.
[10:27] <WaZ`> Duzchip: just a second, i'll check if this also works for the 4310
[10:27] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: most of my stuff was on my ubuntu partition :\
[10:27] <Duzchip> i get an error when doing apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:27] <WaZ`> Duzchip: you might need legacy drivers
[10:27] <Duzchip> ERROR 404: Not Found.
[10:27] <Duzchip> trying to connect to boredklink.googlepages.com
[10:27] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: acctually everything was on my ubuntu partition because windoze had a BSOD since it was installed
[10:28] <WaZ`> Duzchip: are you connected to internet?
[10:28] <Duzchip> yes
[10:28] <WaZ`> hmmm
[10:28] <Duzchip> cant surf and apt-get install other programs and stuff
[10:28] <kaboombob> duzchip are you in terminal?
[10:28] <Duzchip> yes
[10:29] <Veganarkismo> Who's familiar with Parted Magic here?
[10:29] <n2diy> Veganarkismo: so what are your worries? You lost everything already, no? Just install Ubuntu, and ditch winders?
[10:29] <Duzchip> kaboombob: yes
[10:29] <kaboombob> just makin sure
[10:30] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: I don't think I've lost everything, they're still on the harddrive but I need to recover them. I've tried Parted Magic the analysis thingy showed my harddrive's partitions so they're still there for sure
[10:31] <amerio> does anybody know about the configurarion of gnome panel?
[10:31] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: but when I boot up my comp, it won't let me access any OS
[10:31] <Duzchip> WaZ' Any more hints please? :)
[10:31] <WaZ`> Duzchip: are the universe repos enabled?
[10:32] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: sounds like a boot loader problem
[10:32] <Duzchip> WaZ': Yup
[10:32]  * Lokii- just made the coolest login screen :)
[10:32] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: :O
[10:32]  * howlingmadhowie wants to see Lokii-'s login screen
[10:33] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: Is there a way to reinstall the bootloader?
[10:33] <n2diy> Veganarkismo: I"ve followed this off and on, all morning. I don't know of anything to tell you, that has not been suggested already, sorry.
[10:33] <WaZ`> Duzchip: try this
[10:33] <WaZ`> Duzchip: sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx
[10:33] <Lokii-> fn'howlingmadhowie: let me try and make a screenie of the l0ogin hold up
[10:33] <WaZ`> Duzchip: sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[10:33] <dr4> Hello there i have just laoded up the live CD and i'm trynig to locate my Windows partition.. but /dev/hda does not exist??  a "ls /dev/hd*" returns nothing.
[10:33] <dr4> -
[10:33] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: it's something i've never had to do. but you can try googling for instructions
[10:33] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: It's ok
[10:33] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: lol, ok ill brb
[10:34] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: thing is, I don't know anything about bootloaders
[10:34] <dr4> Will the windows parition be hidden or something?
[10:34] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: the basic idea is you start a live cd, mount the partition of your harddrive and mount proc and dev on that position. then you chroot and update grub
[10:34] <WaZ`> Duzchip: if that fails try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[10:34] <Duzchip> WaZ': Thanks a lot
[10:34] <n2diy> Veganarkismo: Guess what? Time to learn about them!
[10:35] <WaZ`> Duzchip: works?
[10:35] <Duzchip> Nope
[10:35] <Duzchip> Trying that link
[10:35] <WaZ`> :(
[10:35] <Lokii-> fn'howlingmadhowie: do you know how to snap a screenshot of the login screen ?
[10:35] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: I'm typing this from a live CD right now though
[10:35] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: bootloaders used to be a lot easier than they are now :(
[10:35] <Veganarkismo> n2diy: lol good idea
[10:35] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: what does cat /proc/partitions tell you?
[10:35] <n2diy> Veganarkismo: Good luck to you.
[10:35] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: Do i enter that in the terminal?
[10:36] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: i see the problem we're going to be having here...
[10:36] <Lokii-> fn'dr4:  cat /proc/diskstats
[10:36] <Lokii-> see what you got
[10:36] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: I'll pastebin it
[10:36] <Juhaz> howlingmadhowie, you've got to be kidding. bootloaders used to be INSANELY worse than they're now
[10:36] <dr4> Lokii-, ok
[10:36] <Lokii-> dr4 live cd likes to make the windows ntfs partitions under /media/sda1 or /media/sdb1 ect (sdb for scsi drives)
[10:37] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: have you got a usb-drive large enough to store everything you need from your harddrive?
[10:37] <WaZ`> Juhaz +1
[10:37] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51996/
[10:37] <howlingmadhowie> Juhaz: i mean easier in the sense of fitting in the mbr completely :)
[10:37] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: and no :(
[10:37] <Lokii-> howlingmadhowie: did you see my question ?
[10:37] <dr4> Lokii-, okay i see them.. i se a good few SDA drives.. however i done a 'df /dev/sda/ on the drives and the file system is 'udev'
[10:38] <Lokii-> dr4 do a df -h
[10:38] <Lokii-> ;p
[10:38] <dr4> Lokii-, ok
[10:38] <Lokii-> find your stuff dr4 ?
[10:39] <howlingmadhowie> Lokii-: the easy way would be to cat from fb0 :-D
[10:39] <Lokii-> howlingmadhowie i don't understand
[10:39] <dr4> Lokii-, i see the windows partition..
[10:39] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: oh, your drive is mostly non-partitioned
[10:39] <Lokii-> dr4 u all good ?
[10:39] <dr4> Lokii-, i need some text files off of the windwos partition. But i don't have anywhere to mount atm.
[10:39] <howlingmadhowie> Lokii-: if you copy the current contents of the framebuffer, you can get a picture of the screen :)
[10:39] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhow: what? :O
[10:40] <Lokii-> dr4
[10:40] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: but but but
[10:40] <Lokii-> its not mounted already ?
[10:40] <dr4> Lokii-, actually good point it's already mounted
[10:40] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: it had a 30GB and 120ishGB partition before
[10:40] <howlingmadhowie> Lokii-: however, i would have to set my screen to your resolution and pixel-depth in order to see it
[10:40] <dr4> so i can access it at cd /dev/sda ?
[10:40] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: i can't see the 120GB partition
[10:40] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: :\
[10:40] <dr4> Lokii-, ^^^
[10:41] <Lokii-> 1024x768 32bit i think is what i'm running
[10:41] <moad> searching for a DC client that uses multisource and has linux support
[10:41] <Lokii-> dr4
[10:41] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: if it's an ntfs partition, that maybe because the live cd doesn't support ntfs, but it should still be in the partition table
[10:41] <Lokii-> no
[10:41] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: the Parted Magic live CD or Ubuntu live cd?
[10:41] <Lokii-> it'd be cd /media/sdb1
[10:41] <Lokii-> ls
[10:41] <Lokii-> err
[10:42] <Lokii-> sda1*
[10:42] <dr4> Lokii-, its pre-mounted ?
[10:42] <Lokii-> yes
[10:42] <Lokii-> look
[10:42] <Lokii-> at df -h
[10:42] <howlingmadhowie> Lokii-: the trouble is, you have to dump the contents of /dev/fb0 while you can see the login screen. you could try an "at" command :)
[10:42] <Lokii-> if you see it there listed
[10:42] <Lokii-> then its mounted
[10:42] <dr4> Lokii-, i am and it says "mounted under /dev"
[10:42] <JMhaha> after looking on openmosix and clusterknoppix, I just wondering is ubuntu provided any pre-design process clustering feature?
[10:42] <dr4> but /dev/ just contains stuff not the windwos partition
[10:42] <Lokii-> dr4 your reading it wrong
[10:42] <dr4> Lokii-, ok
[10:42] <Lokii-> trust me
[10:42] <Lokii-> you can paste the output in a pm to me if you with
[10:43] <Lokii-> wish*
[10:43] <JMhaha> coz I afraid later the ubuntu application or services has problem if I use openmosix kernel
[10:43] <bullgard4> Why are there two DEB program packages: 'links' and 'links2'? The Synaptic descriptions do not make clear the difference.
[10:43] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: wait no, I don't think it was NTFS, the 120GB partition was the linux one
[10:43] <Lokii-> howlingmadhowie forgive me i'm not sure how to execute a command from the login screen while not logged in i'm new to gui linux
[10:43] <dr4> Lokii-, its on another machine without internet acess
[10:43] <julz_> i just installed gutsy, but it says i386's are not supported by all the app's in "add/remove". any ideas?
[10:43] <Lokii-> Laughing Out Loud kk dr4
[10:43] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: well, it's not in /proc/partitions
[10:44] <Lokii-> howlingmadhowie i only know cmd line
[10:44] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: so it's erased? :\
[10:44] <samad909> alright i need some help switching this machine from windows to ubuntu, the user has a 250gb hard disk, 2 partitions, one partition has the windows and the other has his data, the 2nd partition is 205gb in size and has 65gb of data, what needs to be done is resize the 2nd partition, install ubuntu, copy data and then remove that partition and to ubuntu
[10:44] <Lokii-> Laughing Out Loud go figure eh ;p
[10:44] <JMhaha> julz: I have no such problem, may we know more details?
[10:44] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: I don't know how a whole partition could be erased in a split second from just typing in "FIXMBR" :\
[10:44] <howlingmadhowie> Lokii-: don't worry, the whole thing is getting pretty complex. but if you have a really nice picture on the login-screen under a common license, you could paste it somewhere so we could see it :)
[10:44] <samad909> is what i stated possible and can anyone help me out?
[10:45] <dr4> Lokii-, i don't think its mounted.. i think this is mabe ubuntu stuff ?? it says "filesystem: udev"
[10:45] <ikonia> dr4: udev is not a file system
[10:45] <dr4> ok
[10:45] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: a-ha. the partition-table is copied at regular intervals on the disc. a software like gpart may be able to help you here.
[10:45] <Lokii-> samad909 why bother changing his data partition. just delete the c drive partition so you have unused space then make a swap 2x the amount of ram he has and then the rest to /
[10:46] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: I used Parted Magic which includes gparted
[10:46] <Juhaz> sdb is different hard drive, it could be that it just can't see the disk some reason
[10:46] <Lokii-> his second "data partition will be read and writable by ubuntu
[10:46] <JMhaha> Has anyone had experience on process clustering in ubuntu gutsy?
[10:46] <samad909> Lokii-: its like this he needs all under one partition
[10:46] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: the file sysem won't have been erazed, but it may have overwritten one of the partition tables
[10:46] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: Is there a way to restore those partition tables?
[10:46] <samad909> Lokii-: so the system gets the full 250gb hard disk
[10:46] <Lokii-> Laughing Out Loud why ?
[10:47] <Lokii-> he would get all his space
[10:47] <Lokii-> and its better to have certain ammounts allocated
[10:47] <ikonia> Lokii-: there is no one in the chanell called laughing out loud
[10:47] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: I found this: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-repair-corrupt-mbr-and-boot.html would this help?
[10:47] <Duzchip> bah, when i do "ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf" i just get "couldn't get manufacturer section - installation may be incomplete"
[10:47] <Lokii-> i have 15gb / 4gb swap 65gb /home 500gb /media/sdb1
[10:47] <white_eagle> I was experimenting something and I installed the ATi drivers for Linux from their official site, and I already had installed them via the restricted driver manager, but when I installed from the file i downloaded, now everything is slower, not to mention the compiz effects, how to erase those drivers I installed from ATi's site and leave my computer unharmed
[10:48] <ikonia> white_eagle why are you telling us this ?
[10:48] <ikonia> white_eagle: the ati drivers on ati.com are nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:48] <samad909> Lokii-: i mean can you explain how to do the stuff, the 2nd parition is ntfs which i will convert from windows to fat32
[10:48] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: yeah. you'll need gpart and some method to write partition tables like fdisk or gparted
[10:49] <Lokii-> samad909 theres no need
[10:49] <Lokii-> ubuntu can read and write to ntfs
[10:49] <samad909> Lokii-: at full capacity? like ext2?
[10:49] <Lokii-> yes
[10:49] <Veganarkismo> howlingmadhowie: That won't erase all the data will it? Would it have the same effect as reformatting?
[10:49] <samad909> Lokii-: ok guide me
[10:49] <Lokii-> understand why i'm saying just leave the data partition alone
[10:50] <Lokii-> it will get mounted to /media/sdb2 or something
[10:50] <Lokii-> you can always mount it where ever you want later
[10:50] <Lokii-> ./home if you wish
[10:50] <samad909> Lokii-: what i am trying to do here is, get all the space to /
[10:50] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: it shouldn't. basically you just have to find out what the partitions actually are and then rewrite the first partition table
[10:50] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: however, you'll need a live cd with gpart or similar
[10:50] <samad909> Lokii-: so basically i can fill any folder up with data till i run out of space
[10:50] <white_eagle> has anyone written something in the meanwhile? my connection broke
[10:50] <Juhaz> Veganarkismo, gpart itself will not, but if you act on it's instructions without knowing what you're doing, it sure as hell will.
[10:50] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: note: gparted won't do this for you, you really need gpart
[10:51] <Lokii-> samad909 personally i think it'd be better to have / and /hom on diff mounts cause then if you need to format / you keep all your /home data
[10:51] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: i think the gentoo live cd has gpart on it.
[10:51] <samad909> Lokii-: but is 27gb enough for all my system data, i would be running xp on vm for c++ windows code compile and stuff
[10:51] <howlingmadhowie> Veganarkismo: it would be a lot easier if there was nothing on the missing partition that you need :)
[10:51] <danube> Lokii-: home stores all your settings. if they are faulty you might overtake them in fresh installed system
[10:52] <Lokii-> yes
[10:52] <stib> Veganarkismo: look up parted magic. It's a liveCD with gpart on it and a whole lot of partition tools. You boot off the CD and so you can fix your partitions
[10:52] <stib> Veganarkismo: It even has a nice GUI
[10:52] <ikonia> white_eagle: why are you telling us about ati drivers ?
[10:52] <Veganarkismo> stib: lol that's what I've been using
[10:52] <Lokii-> i know lots of people store data to there home folder
[10:52] <howlingmadhowie> stib: cool, i didn't know that. thanks :)
[10:52] <danube>  /mnt/data
[10:53] <danube> ie
[10:53] <stib> Veganarkismo: Oh
[10:53]  * howlingmadhowie is busy afk for a minute
[10:53] <white_eagle> ikonia: because, I'm asking how to erase those new drivers
[10:53] <Veganarkismo> stib: I'm not sure how to use it though
[10:53] <stib> Veganarkismo: so are you booting off it?
[10:53] <ikonia> white_eagle: ahhh I see, thats a bit tricky
[10:53] <samad909> Lokii-: alright so all i need to do is just format the 1st partition and install ubuntu on that? how would i go about setting the /home to the 2nd ntfs partition, guide me..
[10:53] <Veganarkismo> stib: Yes, but right now I'm on the ubuntu live CD
[10:53] <ikonia> !away > howlingmadhowie
[10:54] <Veganarkismo> stib: I'll boot into it in a minute
[10:54] <ikonia> white_eagle: you've in effect broke your package manager, so it's going to be hard to clean up
[10:54] <Veganarkismo> stib: I'll have a look at it again, ill be back later
[10:54] <Lokii-> howlingmadhowie: you know the userentry box from login Human ?
[10:55] <samad909> Lokii-: alright so all i need to do is just format the 1st partition and install ubuntu on that? how would i go about setting the /home to the 2nd ntfs partition
[10:55] <Lokii-> i read that hold on a minute
[10:55] <samad909> Lokii-: alright, just say my nickname when you reply
[10:55] <stib> Veganarkismo: Look in the tools menu. You have to right click to see all the tools or something IIRC
[10:56] <samad909> Lokii-: also get me a few steps to get my dual core to run at max performance on ubuntu
[10:57] <Lokii-> howlingmadhowie: i used the userentry box from login screen "Human" and moved the y=20% http://i1.tinypic.com/6l9vqbs.png = background and i removed the Ubuntu logo as it crossed over my new CIA Restricted Access Terminal
[10:57] <Lokii-> :)
[10:58] <Mitch_Davis> Hi people
[10:58] <stib> Does anyone know if there's a tool for defragging ntfs drives available? I'd like to defrag my windows partition from linux, so I can defrag the bits I normally can't move (I know, I'm being OCD)
[10:58] <Mitch_Davis> May I ask what 'ubuntu' is?
[10:58] <Duzchip> WaZ': Aha!!! Got it working
[10:58] <dgjones> !ubuntu | Mitch_Davis
[10:58] <ubotu> Mitch_Davis: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[10:58] <Duzchip> using sp36684.exe and ndiswrapper but still :D
[10:58] <PriceChild> stib, probably best to use the windows tools
[10:59] <Mitch_Davis> Ok, thanks.
[10:59] <stib> PriceChild: I get that feeling too. But there has to be a Linux tool that will do it better, there just has to.. :)
[10:59] <ikonia> white_eagle: by installing the ati drivers from ati.com you've broke the package managers awareness of what is installed (in terms of packages and dependencies around ati)
[11:00] <PriceChild> stib, linux ntfs support has been reverse engineered... "educated guess" really. Its only recently ntfs-3g has reached 1.0
[11:00] <Lokii-> samad909 install ubuntu.. when it asks for selecting drive to partition click manual, select sda1 (c drive) delete partition | select unused space make partition (swap) 2x whatever his ram is select rest of the unused space create partition / (reiserfs)
[11:01] <Lokii-> samad909: select the sda3 or whatever it has the guys data drive labeled as
[11:01] <Lokii-> samad909: edit partition mount point /home
[11:01] <Lokii-> click install
[11:02] <samad909> Lokii-: about the dual core?
[11:02] <stib> PriceChild: So I'd be taking a leap of faith defragging my disks with a half baked linux ntfs tool.
[11:02] <Lokii-> samad909 i have no idea
[11:02] <Mitch_Davis> Well, nice seeing you all.
[11:02] <Mitch_Davis> Ciao.
[11:02] <PriceChild> stib, I'm no authority on the matter, just best to use windows tools imo.
[11:02] <Mitch_Davis> lol, bye.
[11:02] <Lokii-> samad909 that would be something todo with the cpu module in the kernel
[11:02] <samad909> Lokii-: alright thanks for the help, I will ask someone and go ahead
[11:03] <samad909> anyone know how to get the max performance of dual core processors in ubuntu
[11:03] <Lokii-> samad909 in any case if you have to modify kernel you do that after install
[11:03] <samad909> Lokii-: sure thanks for the help
[11:03] <Lokii-> np i'm gonna watch some tv and have a long needed piss
[11:03] <Lokii-> 3:03am here
[11:03] <lmnts> samad909: It will always use the maximum performance?
[11:04] <PriceChild> !guidelines > Lokii-
[11:04] <samad909> lmnts: i thought it needed a smp kernel
[11:04] <lmnts> samad909: It is SMP aware by default.
[11:04] <Lokii-> pricechild what did i do now? Laughing Out Loud i was being friendly and helping
[11:04] <lmnts> !guidelines > lmnts
[11:04] <Vicfred> hi how do i unistall a program that i compiled?
[11:04] <ikonia> Vicfred: make uninstall if it has one, or a manual rm
[11:04] <samad909> lmnts: alright so it means it is going to be faster than xp 32bit as it is capable of using the dual cores?
[11:05] <ikonia> Vicfred: that is the price of not using package manager
[11:05] <Vicfred> =p xd
[11:05] <samad909> lmnts?
[11:06] <foobar_> my computer restarts when trying to install ubuntu 7.10, hov can i fix it?
[11:06] <lmnts> samad909: XP 32-bit also has SMP support, for what I know.
[11:06] <stib> samad909: xp 32 can use dual core. Mine uses all four cores quite well.
[11:06] <samad909> stib: is that by default?
[11:06] <stib> samad909: it depends on the software you're using - If it's multi threaded it will work faster on multi processor machines
[11:06] <stib> samad909: yup
[11:06] <samad909> stib: I mean the OS
[11:06] <lmnts> samad909: Press CTRL+ESC and have a look at the CPU histogram, it should show two of them.
[11:06] <alpaco> hi
[11:07] <alpaco> I compiled Tor from the source, and now I need to know where are the binaries installed
[11:07] <samad909> stib: well i had a p4 but the speeds remain the same for me that is why i was wondering
[11:07] <samad909> lmnts: it shows the 2 cores but the speeds remain the same as it was on my old p4
[11:07] <stib> samad909: what speeds?
[11:08] <samad909> lmnts: the OS boot speeds and other general OS taks
[11:08] <alpaco> samad909: man Tor ro compile kardam, binary ha koja rikhte shodan?
[11:08] <samad909> tasks*
[11:08] <samad909> alpaco: i don't understand what you are saying mate
[11:08] <alpaco> ok
[11:08] <alpaco> I thought you are Persian
[11:08] <Lokii-> Laughing Out Loud
[11:09] <samad909> alpaco: lol, i am sri lankan
[11:09] <lmnts> samad909: If the application you are executing is only single threaded, then it won't be able to utilize the second core.
[11:09] <sjoerd> samad909: OS boot speed is largely dependant on disk io and timeouts in programs that start up.. Not cpu power
[11:09] <stib> samad909: try defragging ;)
[11:09] <samad909> lmnts/sjoerd/stib: thanks
[11:09] <stib> samad909: CCleaner might help too.
[11:09] <lankke> hey people...
[11:10] <samad909> buh bye to native windows and hello to ubuntu and vm windows ;)
[11:10] <lmnts> sjoerd: I want to test an SSD soon to see how much faster it will boot. :)
[11:10] <alpaco> when you compile a program out of source code, where are the binaries normally installed?
[11:10] <preaction> alpaco, /usr/local/bin
[11:10] <lankke> does anyone here have experience with installing the dependencies required for Google APIs? I have been stuck for 4 days straight
[11:10] <samad909> I would not install windows on vm for this guy but he needs it to compile his src and stuff so
[11:10] <alpaco> thanks
[11:10] <sjoerd> lmnts: starting programs in parallel already helps a lot.. and so do other things
[11:10] <sjoerd> lmnts: but SSD are really nice indeed
[11:11] <josh__> anyone know how to open up the windows explorer in sudo mode ?
[11:11] <alpaco> how do you uninstall after "make install"? do you have to uninstall manually?
[11:11] <lmnts> alpaco: Throughout the filesystem, normally based out of /usr/local, otherwise /usr. Check the "lib" and "bin" directories specifically. There might be other directories such as "share".
[11:11] <alpaco> ok
[11:11] <samad909> josh__: windows explorer?
[11:11] <flush> yo my freaking hd led is light up 24/7 how do i know what process is eating my harddrive or something ?
[11:11] <lankke> I am using Icedtea however the google documentation is aimed at JDK 6.0 ...
[11:12] <preaction> alpaco, some might have "make deinstall" but i doubt it. you're most likely going to have to uninstall "manually". this is a major problem that package systems are designed to cure
[11:12] <lmnts> alpaco: I would run "make install" again and watch where it installs things. Then do it in reverse. :)
[11:12] <samad909> josh__: maybe goto system32 and right click run as, give admin credentials
[11:12] <stib> flush: How much memory have you got. It might be thrashing the swap because you've run out of ram
[11:12] <alpaco> hmm
[11:12] <preaction> alpaco, you can make dpkg from source installs, look up checkinstall. that makes it easy to deinstall and also to move your package to other places
[11:12] <preaction> !checkinstall
[11:12] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[11:12] <flush> stib
[11:13] <flush> I'm using Linux 2.6.22-14-generic:  CPU: Dual Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz ° Speed: 2999.725 MHz ° MIPS: 12003.9 ?? RAM: 530/1295M [||||||||||] ° Disk: 231G with 20G Free ° Resolution: 1280x1024 ° Number of process: 138  ° Uptime: 06:14:38 up 15:50,  8 users,  load average: 0.43, 0.41, 0.27 ° Data: In: 224.87M Out: 125.90M - M[X]S
[11:13] <alpaco> thanks for all the input
[11:13] <samad909> also does he need a swap? he has 2gb of ram and rarely goes upto 1.5gb..
[11:14] <stib> !top
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <josh__> samad909, sorry im talking about ubuntu, im not 100% good with cli yet. and i need certain permissions to do some things
[11:14] <stib> flush: 8 users?
[11:14] <samad909> josh__: gksudo nautlius?
[11:14] <flush> ea im logged via ssh on my other boxes on the lan
[11:14] <samad909> nautilus*
[11:15] <lmnts> samad909: You should always use some swap, however small. If you hit the max amount of RAM the machine will likely crash.
[11:15] <erawfish> flush: ls -l /proc/kcore  how big is the file?
[11:15] <samad909> lmnts: how about a 1:1 ram:swap?
[11:15] <unop> !info w32codecs gutsy
[11:15] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in gutsy
[11:15] <erawfish> lmnts: it won't crash
[11:15] <lmnts> samad909: If you dont want a separate partition for swap, then you can always make a swap-file in the filesystem (as Windows does it).
[11:16] <unop> !info w32codecs feisty
[11:16] <erawfish> samad909: yes. for hibrenation
[11:16] <lmnts> erawfish: No?
[11:16] <flush> -r-------- 1 root root 939528192 2008-01-15 06:17 /proc/kcore
[11:16] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in feisty
[11:16] <erawfish> lmnts: you get a OOM error where the kernel shuts down a random process
[11:16] <lmnts> erawfish: Oh yes of course, my bad.
[11:16] <samad909> lmnts: which has better performance? file or partition for swap?
[11:16] <bazhang> unop: you need to go to www.medibuntu.org for those--the instructions are on the site
[11:17] <erawfish> samad909: partiton but the advantage is soo smal you won't notice
[11:17] <Veganarkismo> I'mm back...
[11:17] <lmnts> samad909: They say partition is better, but I never read some benchmarks.
[11:17] <Veganarkismo> Does anyone here know how to use GPart?
[11:17] <erawfish> Veganarkismo: ask a real an specific question
[11:17] <samad909> hmm, i would go with the file then, better than having partitions
[11:18] <flush> erawfish: http://allpr0h.eyh.ca/wtfx0r/hdledwtf.png
[11:18] <Veganarkismo> erawfish: How to fix partition tables with gparT?
[11:18] <flush> this is top, and look at he sda/sdb graph on gkrellm, nothing
[11:18] <lmnts> erawfish: hehe, I was about to write that. "Dont ask to ask a question, just ask." :)
[11:18] <flush> and while that the hd led is light up
[11:18] <erawfish> flush: what will that show me?
[11:18] <samad909> lmnts: how would i go about setting up the swap-file
[11:18] <moad> my download speed has dropped after upgrading to gutsy
[11:19] <Veganarkismo> Does anyone know how to fix partition tables with GPart?
[11:19] <Duzchip> WaZ': hehe yet another tutorial but still : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bcm4310
[11:19] <stib> Veganarkismo:  here  is a screen shot of gparted http://partedmagic.com/downloads/screenshots/gparted.jpeg
[11:19] <flush> erawfish what does it mean, why is the hd led light up if theres not even activity on the hd graph
[11:19] <stib> Veganarkismo: if you run gparted you'll see something like that.
[11:19] <erawfish> flush: in top, press "M". which process(es) use the most memory?
[11:19] <Veganarkismo> stib: isn't that gparted?
[11:19] <Veganarkismo> stib: I mean GPart
[11:20] <stib> Veganarkismo: yup
[11:20] <erawfish> flush: you run azureus, why do you even ask
[11:20] <lmnts> samad909: To create a 1G swap-file; dd if=/dev/zero of=targetfile bs=1 count=1 seek=1G then mkswap targetfile.
[11:20] <Veganarkismo> stib: it's text based
[11:20] <unop> !info vim-full gutsy
[11:20] <stib> Veganarkismo: why not use gparted?
[11:20] <lmnts> samad909: Hold, I'm on the phone.
[11:20] <Veganarkismo> stib: (the one in Parted Magic)
[11:20] <samad909> lmnts: alright thanks
[11:20] <ubotu> vim-full: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - full fledged version. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:7.1-056+2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 943 kB, installed size 1892 kB
[11:20] <Veganarkismo> stib: someone said GPart is different to Gparted
[11:20] <bazhang> Veganarkismo: they are different
[11:21] <Veganarkismo> oh
[11:21] <stib> Veganarkismo: Oh OK I was talking about Parted magic
[11:21] <white_eagle> ikonia: sorry, but what should i do?
[11:21] <Veganarkismo> stib: can Gparted fix partition tables?
[11:21] <ikonia> white_eagle: I've never removed the ati drivers, I don't know what they install and where
[11:22] <stib> Veganarkismo:  My oath it can. It's basically a Xubuntu live CD pared down to 30Mb with a whole lot of useful disk fixin' tools
[11:22] <stib> Veganarkismo: http://partedmagic.com/
[11:22] <Veganarkismo> stib: I know, I was just using it
[11:22] <Veganarkismo> stib: but I was afraid I might accidently reformat the disk
[11:22] <stib> Veganarkismo: Oh, now you've confused me
[11:23] <Veganarkismo> stib: lol err ok ill start again
[11:23] <erawfish> stib: great trademark violation that name it seems
[11:23] <stib> Veganarkismo: well any partition tool will do that
[11:23] <Veganarkismo> stib: Earlier today I had a 125GB Ubuntu 7.10 Partition and a 30gb widoze partition
[11:24] <Veganarkismo> stic: The 30 GB windoze partition kept BSODing when I tried to boot into it
[11:24] <Veganarkismo> *stib: The 30 GB windoze partition kept BSODing when i tried to boot into it
[11:24] <ikonia> Veganarkismo: do you mean "windows"
[11:24] <stib> Veganarkismo: can you see the files on your windows disk?
[11:24] <samad909> now this is bad, he hasnt downloaded the image file, aargh! its a 512 connection and it is going to take 4hrs+ :S
[11:24] <Veganarkismo> ikonia: I intentionally call it windoze :P
[11:25] <lmnts> samad909: mount -t swap targetfile swap or something similar.
[11:25] <Veganarkismo> stib: I wanted to play a game on windows, so I tried to fix it
[11:25] <ikonia> Veganarkismo: then your intentionally behaving silly. It' called windows, please call it windows
[11:25] <samad909> lmnts: no auto mount?
[11:25] <lmnts> samad909: Err, sorry, don't "mount" it.
[11:25] <Veganarkismo> stib: someone told me to go into the recovery console
[11:25] <Veganarkismo> stib: and type "fixboot c:"
[11:25] <Veganarkismo> stib: I did that
[11:25] <lmnts> samad909: swapon targetfile
[11:25] <samad909> lmnts: you scare me for once, how do i activate it then?
[11:26] <Veganarkismo> stib: And then when I restarted, it said "NTLDR is missing"
[11:26] <ikonia> Veganarkismo: ##windows channel can help with that
[11:26] <samad909> lmnts: that way it will be up every reboot?
[11:26] <Veganarkismo> I went back on this channel by going on my Ubuntu Live CD
[11:26] <Veganarkismo> Stib: and someone said I should use "fixmbr"
[11:26] <stib> Veganarkismo: Oh, ok, you've bolloxed your MBR
[11:26] <lmnts> samad909: And then add "/path/to/targetfile  none swap sw 0 0" in /etc/fstab
[11:26] <ikonia> Veganarkismo: the guys in ##windows will help you with that
[11:27] <Kalamansi> hello guys is it okay to use my isp's dns to my pc2? my pc1 is my server ubuntu acting as my gateway. i dont have a router.. ubuntu is my router server..
[11:27] <Veganarkismo> stib: I did that and it said "invalid partition table"
[11:27] <ikonia> Veganarkismo: you are trying to fix a windows issue. Please take it to ##windows
[11:27] <samad909> lmnts: alright, thanks, now i have to wait till this image downloads!
[11:27] <lmnts> samad909: I didn't verify all these steps now... :)
[11:27] <Veganarkismo> ikonia: No, it's an ubuntu issue too
[11:27] <ikonia> Veganarkismo: no it's not
[11:28] <Veganarkismo> ikonia: everything got wiped out :\ including the ubuntu partition
[11:28] <ikonia> Veganarkismo: you have messed up your MBR and partition table
[11:28] <lmnts> Kalamansi: Yes, it is.
[11:28] <Veganarkismo> ikonia: Yes
[11:28] <Veganarkismo> Ok i'll consult the windows guys brb
[11:29] <samad909> thanks for the help people, will be back as soon as ubuntu is up here
[11:29] <goodhabit> Hello. Help me. I heed to do copy ubuntu mirror on dvd's. How I can do it?
[11:30] <ikonia> goodhabit: the mirros is over 70GB
[11:30] <marrokinooo> hello
[11:30] <ikonia> goodhabit: a DVD is 8GB
[11:30] <goodhabit> ikonia, I want only main branch.
[11:30] <ikonia> goodhabit: main is 70GB
[11:30] <goodhabit> And I know about weight of mirrors.
[11:31] <goodhabit> Ok.
[11:31] <goodhabit> 70|8=9
[11:31] <goodhabit> It is ok for me.
[11:31] <goodhabit> I'm just need a solution.
[11:31] <ikonia> goodhabit: apt-sync ?
[11:31] <ikonia> goodhabit: there are some perl scripts
[11:32] <asklepios> mhmm does anyone knows something about kdissert running under ubuntu 7.04?
[11:33] <marrokinooo> i have got an old sony vaio note book, PCG-F80= 64 MB of RAM, 533 Mhz AMD and 5726 MB of storage, i want to install an ubuntu based distro on, xbuntu is very slow, what can i do?
[11:33] <goodhabit> ikonia, I can't find apt-sync package.
[11:33] <marrokinooo> and
[11:33] <marrokinooo> one more thing, is that it should detect huawei wirless internet modem
[11:33] <marrokinooo> please help me
[11:33] <marrokinooo> i am new to Linux
[11:33] <goodhabit> marrokinooo, you can use wm instead of de, also ubuntu is not fastest distro in the world.
[11:33] <ikonia> goodhabit: mirror-sync
[11:34] <ikonia> goodhabit: it's a perl script
[11:34] <asklepios> I cannot change the icons and as well not all flags have icons already...
[11:34] <marrokinooo> what is WM??
[11:34] <Kalamansi> lmnts: what if someone will make fun with my dns? like they will dos or whatever term they call that.. putting your isp's dns is totaly okay? i will not dc especially my server?
[11:34] <goodhabit> marrokinooo, windows manager. Are you on ubuntu now?
[11:34] <marrokinooo> goodhabit: what is vm and de?
[11:34] <marrokinooo> no
[11:35] <asklepios> and I guess it could be a problem of gnome since kdissert requires kde... could this be true?
[11:35] <goodhabit> marrokinooo, privatemessage me.
[11:35] <marrokinooo> am in windows 2000
[11:35] <marrokinooo> ok
[11:35] <lmnts> Kalamansi: Dont worry about it. Unless you are making trouble for other ppl, they wont bother to DoS your machine.
[11:35] <sandyang> G`night
[11:35] <asklepios> mhmm can anyone read what i ve written?
[11:36] <czajkowski> asklepios: yes
[11:36] <asklepios> ...:-) lucky i
[11:36] <asklepios> ;-)
[11:36] <asklepios> but it seems that there is no mindmapper around
[11:36] <asklepios> so be it :-)
[11:36] <Kalamansi> Imnts : is there anyway to minimize this dns thing? like you will just assign ip add to pc2 without dns? (tho i tried not putting my isp's dns, pc2 cannot connect to the internet)
[11:36] <marrokinooo> goodhabit: it said i should register somewhere
[11:37] <bullgard4> Why are there two DEB program packages: 'links' and 'links2'? The Synaptic descriptions do not make clear the difference.
[11:37] <dooglus> the brightness controls on this laptop don't work quite right in gutsy.  I can turn the brightness down with them, but not back up.  is there a command line alternative to turn it back up?
[11:37] <marrokinooo> goodhabit: it said i should register somewhere
[11:37] <barduck> can anyone tell me how to completely disable DPMS in xorg.conf ? I try to set it too "off" but when I do xset -q I stil get "DPMS is Enabled", any ideas ?
[11:37] <BusMaster> hi, I just installed gutsy amd64 and googled a lot for software to use voice chat with google talk, but no luck. can  this be done?
[11:37] <marrokinooo> well i will register myself there
[11:38] <goodhabit> marrokinooo, you heed to have registered nickname, if you will get some troubles with it, ask #help or #freenode
[11:38] <lmnts> bullgard4: They are different versions. Choose links2.
[11:39] <lmnts> BusMaster: Please tell me if you find out! :)
[11:39] <bullgard4> lmnts: What is the main differnce between those two versions?
[11:39] <marrokinooo> ok
[11:39] <marrokinooo> thanks
[11:40] <dooglus> how can I turn the brightness up, when the 'sun' button does nothing?
[11:40] <lmnts> BusMaster: http://www.gtalk2voip.com/ perhaps that will help.
[11:40] <lmnts> bullgard4: No idea.
[11:40] <BusMaster> lmnts, :) so far I've tried pidgin, kopete and empathy. you can rule those out. I _know_ that tapioca work, btu i can't find the amd64 version
[11:40] <bullgard4> lmnts: ok
[11:40] <lmnts> bullgard4: apt-cache show links; apt-cache show links2, see the Version header.
[11:41] <Veganarkismo> The windows people are telling me to install windows!!! :(
[11:41] <lmnts> BusMaster: Another good reason for sticking to i386 for the moment. :)
[11:41] <danube> Veganarkismo: ?
[11:41] <goodhabit> marrokinooo, yo, just type /msg nickserv register YOUR_PASSWORD
[11:41] <lmnts> I only use 64-bit on servers.  I have a directory on a debian box which has been recursively set to a+rx with chmod... when I mount that directory with nfs on my other box I can see the first level of directories, but then there is nothing in the second level...
[11:43] <Smitney> hi all)
[11:43] <Kalamansi> lmnts how about you will set a proxy to the firefox and IE? im not sure if its possible
[11:43] <Smitney> Kalamansi hi
[11:44] <lmnts> Kalamansi: What do you mean? You have two choices, either use your own DNS or your ISP's. Dont worry about DoS.
[11:44] <Kalamansi> Smitney : hello how are things goin there
[11:44] <lmnts> Kalamansi: Of course that's possible. But you need a proxy somewhere to connect to.
[11:44] <BusMaster> lmnts, i thought so too..then I gave in to the sex appeal and 3 frenzied night of configuring, now everything work..flash, video, sound, skype..you name it. _except_ for google talk voice..I even got webcam, nvidia and wireless with ndiswrapper working :)
[11:44] <marrokinooo> it said my nickname is registred
[11:44] <Schalke1> borbus: if you try to CD into the directories do you get a "permission denied", or does there actually appear to be nothing in there?
[11:44] <Kalamansi> lmnts how to use my own dns?
[11:45] <marrokinooo> but i can't im private you
[11:45] <lmnts> BusMaster: All power to you! I would also want it working but didn't find the time yet. Think I will just wait it out till everything works out of the box.
[11:45] <borbus> Schalke1, there is just nothing
[11:45] <goodhabit> marrokinooo, that means what your nickname is busy. You have to change it to unregistered one.
[11:46] <goodhabit> marrokinooo, jabber account?
[11:46] <lmnts> Kalamansi: Uhm, you configure your machine to use your own DNS. That is /etc/resolv.conf.
[11:46] <marrokinooo> nop
[11:46] <Smitney> Kalamansi I from Ukraine)
[11:46] <marrokinooo> i use skype!!!
[11:46] <XiXaQ> I've changed dns server for my desktop. Do I need to restart anything for it to be effective?
[11:46] <Kalamansi> i have problem also to my firestarter. every 3 minutes or 6 minutes it disappear from my taskbar.. i cannot see the logs.. i have to manually run it again so i could see the logs.. is there anyway to open the firewall always on the task bar?
[11:46] <goodhabit> marrokinooo, #bubobaka
[11:46] <goodhabit> now
[11:46] <Smitney> marrokinooo how long?
[11:46] <lmnts> XiXaQ: Sometimes I've noticed that Firefox needs a restart.
[11:46] <Kalamansi> Imnts : i have problem also to my firestarter. every 3 minutes or 6 minutes it disappear from my taskbar.. i cannot see the logs.. i have to manually run it again so i could see the logs.. is there anyway to open the firewall always on the task bar?
[11:46] <marrokinooo> ???
[11:47] <marrokinooo> sorry???
[11:47] <Schalke1> borbus: sounds like a misconfig of the NFS server to not recursively share directories.
[11:47] <goodhabit> marrokinooo, /join #bubobaka
[11:47] <goodhabit> omg.
[11:47] <borbus> Schalke1, my exports file looks like this: /mnt *(rw,no_root_squash)
[11:47] <lmnts> Kalamansi: I don't know everything, no idea. :)
[11:47] <marrokinooo> ah
[11:47] <Kalamansi> Smitney : thats nice.. how may help you?
[11:47] <Schalke1> borbus: i never used NFS, so i dont know what export files are :P
[11:47] <Schalke1> borbus: samba for me :D
[11:48] <Smitney> Kalamansi my english is very bad,I dont can explane
[11:48] <Kalamansi> Imnts : i will just change my isp's dns? is it okay?
[11:48] <Kalamansi> Smitney : me too. english is not my 1st language
[11:48] <Smitney> Kalamansi because I speek ukrainian,not english
[11:48] <borbus> Schalke1, I have samba on the server too but nfs is faster
[11:48] <lmnts> Kalamansi: Sure. That's what it's there for.
[11:49] <borbus> I've never had an issue with it before..
[11:49] <Schalke1> borbus: ah, that i didnt know
[11:49] <Smitney> Kalamansi I must go to university,bye :)
[11:49] <void^> borbus: nfs exports only one filesystem
[11:49] <fevel> hello everybody
[11:49] <Smitney> fevel hi and bye)
[11:49] <Kalamansi> Smitney wait
[11:50] <fevel> is it possible to search for a keyword on all textfiles on a system from the command line?
[11:50] <Smitney> Kalamansi I stay
[11:50] <fevel> bye Smitney
[11:50] <Smitney> Kalamansi fast man,my time is go...
[11:50] <lmnts> fevel: You may use "grep -r the-text some-files", where some-files may be /home/your-home or similar.
[11:51] <bullgard4> kernelparameters.txt writes: "The video mode to be used is selected by a kernel parameter which can be specified in the kernel Makefile (the SVGA_MODE=... line) or ..." What does 'SVGA' stand here for?
[11:51] <Kalamansi> Smitney : what is your email add or you have yahoo messenger ?
[11:51] <lmnts> fevel: Or press ALT+F3 and use Deskbar Applet, it's faster.
[11:51] <borbus> void^, so.. does it? I have exported a directory before and been able to access the second level directories...
[11:51] <borbus> Or is it because I'm try to export mounts?
[11:51] <Smitney> Kalamansi I dont have yahoo messenger,but i have e-mail
[11:52] <Kalamansi> Imnts : this is the contents of my /etc/resolv.conf .. nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> .. can i change it to <IP_ADDRESS>? is that all? no more to add? i dont want to mess again with my ubuntu and reinstall again
[11:52] <Kalamansi> Smitney : what is you email add?
[11:52] <Smitney> Kalamansi 225887711-my ICQ,if you want-write me
[11:52] <white_eagle> !pastebin
[11:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:52] <olskolirc> SOS I don't have a reboot and shutdown button anymore just a logout button. how do i get that back please?
[11:52] <Kalamansi> Smitney : you wanna make friends with me?
[11:52] <Smitney> Kalamansi<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:52] <lmnts> Kalamansi: <IP_ADDRESS> would be your network address, and not a specific machine. That will not work.
[11:53] <Kalamansi> Imnts : can you give me a sample nameserver to put in my etc resolv please? thanks
[11:53] <lmnts> Kalamansi: Changing your resolv.conf will not mess up the installation in any way. Just change back if it doesnt work.
[11:53] <void^> borbus: directories aren't filesystems. if you export /mnt and you have another filesystem mounted at /mnt/foo, /mnt/foo will be empty
[11:53] <Smitney> Kalamansi i must go,sorry
[11:53] <Kalamansi> Smitney what is your email?
[11:53] <borbus> void^, Ahh.. it seems to work if I just mount the individual mounts
[11:53] <lmnts> Kalamansi: Use the nameserver that your ISP provides for you.
[11:53] <Kalamansi> Imnts : my server gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:54] <white_eagle> how to enable direct rendering? This shows up if i enter glxinfo|grep dir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51999/plain/
[11:54] <Smitney> Kalamansi<EMAIL_ADDRESS>take)
[11:54] <void^> borbus: yes, one filesystem at a time.
[11:54] <borbus> void^, thanks, I didn't know there was actually a difference
[11:54] <Kalamansi> Imnts : but if i use my isp's dns i will still use it to pc2 workstation?
[11:54] <borbus> But it makes sense of cours
[11:54] <white_eagle> it sais try setting up LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose, how to set that?
[11:54] <Kalamansi> Imnts : how about assigning a fake dns to workstation pc2?
[11:54] <Kalamansi> Smitney : okay we can be friends mate. im from philippines
[11:55] <Smitney> Kalamansi very nice)
[11:55] <Kalamansi> Smitney : you take there mate. ill email you soon
[11:55] <DarthSOup> I need some help
[11:55] <DarthSOup> who has a minute?
[11:55] <Kalamansi> Smitney : you take care there
[11:55] <void^> borbus: there's a nohide option to export all mounts in a directory tree but it's potentially unreliable and a little tricky
[11:56] <Kalamansi> Imnts : what if i will not use my isp's dns. how to assign a fake dns? im not good in scripting and numbers of dns on what to assign...
[11:57] <famicon> yo
[11:57] <famicon> what is the latest ubuntu version
[11:57] <famicon> as in testing, not stable
[11:58] <ikonia> 7.10
[11:58] <DarthSOup> help? anybody?
[11:58] <lmnts> Kalamansi: This has nothing to do with scripting. Assigning a non-existant (fake?) DNS is possible, but you will only be able to communicate with the internet using IP addresses and not names. www.hotmail.com for example is not accessible, since the computer cannot look up the IP of the name.
[11:58] <DarthSOup> so I'm just going to throw my questiono out there
[11:58] <ikonia> DarthSOup: just ask the question
[11:58] <lmnts> Kalamansi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name_system
[11:58] <borbus> void^, ahh, well that's ok, it's better mounting them seperately anyway... to save me looking it up... what's the best way to automatically mount nfs on startup? Do you use fstab for that too?
[11:59] <famicon> Kalamansi what are you trying to achieve
[11:59] <famicon> If this is for a company or whatnot, i solve it for you at the appropriate hourly rates
[11:59] <DarthSOup> I have an asus motherboard with a wireless card. I apparently need to install the drivers to get the wireless capabilities going, but when I throw in the disk of drivers that came with the motherboard, I don't know which drivers to install, how to install, etc.
[11:59] <void^> borbus: fstab works
[11:59] <lmnts> famicon: :D
[12:00] <famicon> lmnts drugs and hookers dont come cheap you know
[12:00] <borbus> void^, do you know what happens if fstab fails to mount an nfs export? ie. if the server is down... does it just fail silently?
[12:00] <ikonia> DarthSOup what is the card
[12:01] <void^> borbus: it hangs and timeouts unless you specify an option like bg to make it retry in background
[12:01] <lmnts> famicon: Yes, the life of a computer nerd can be hard sometimes. :P
[12:01] <Kalamansi> famicon: lmnts: i just want to hide my isp's dns. like i will use a fake dns to my workstation pc2..im afraid of dos... is it possible? my gateway in eth1 is <IP_ADDRESS> .. how about assigning a dns to pc2 workstation a dns like <IP_ADDRESS>? before doing that i will change first my resolv.conf to <IP_ADDRESS> ... is that possible?
[12:01] <DarthSOup> M2N32-SLI Deluxe
[12:01] <ikonia> DarthSOup: thats a motherboard, not a network card
[12:02] <famicon> Kalamansi it is possible if you pay me 100 bucks an hour
[12:02] <famicon> ill share my enterprise network rig
[12:02] <DarthSOup> I know...but the motherboard comes with the wireless card
[12:02] <DarthSOup> it's one package
[12:02] <ikonia> Kalamansi: I think you have been in here asking about this before
[12:02] <borbus> void^, is that the best thing? If the server is down then it's probably not going to be back any time soon... will retrying just waste resources?
[12:02] <ikonia> Kalamansi: and you where told the same thing then
[12:02] <famicon> DarthSOup check lspci output
[12:02] <Kalamansi> ikonia : yeah because i want to use fake dns.. not my real isp's dns ...
[12:02] <DarthSOup> Ispci?
[12:03] <Raseel> Hi guys, I need help with my SONY Vaio VGN-FZ140E
[12:03] <ikonia> Kalamansi and you where told that does not work, and that you should contact your ISP to get the correct information
[12:03] <lmnts> Kalamansi: Ok, now... there is no such thing as a "fake" DNS.
[12:03] <lmnts> There, problem solved.
[12:03] <Raseel> Anyone ?
[12:03] <ikonia> lmnts thank you
[12:03] <famicon> actually, there is something like it
[12:03] <lmnts> famicon: In what sense?
[12:03] <pvh_sa|wrk> Kalamansi, you want to create a 'split horizon' DNS?
[12:03] <DarthSOup> famicon, what is Ispci?
[12:03] <lmnts> famicon: Hidden DNS? Over VPN?
[12:03] <ikonia> Raseel: saying anyone is pointless
[12:03] <famicon> lmnts somethin gliek that
[12:03] <famicon> in some order
[12:04] <koltan> hi: how can I find what is going wrong when I'm installing ubuntu 7.10 in an amd64?
[12:04] <famicon> and DarthSOup just try that on a commandline
[12:04] <famicon> koltan check the log files
[12:04] <lmnts> I wouldn't call that a fake DNS.
[12:04] <Raseel> ikonia: Sorry, I'm a noob. But keep correcting me whenever I go wrong
[12:04] <ikonia> koltan: what is the problem
[12:04] <DarthSOup> famicon...what does it do?
[12:04] <lmnts> pvh_sa|wrk: Doesn't seem that he intends to create a split horizon either, from what I can tell.
[12:04] <famicon> it will kick you in the nuts
[12:04] <pvh_sa|wrk> Kalamansi, i.e. you want one set of names to be valid on the internal network, but you don't want that set of names to be visible to the outside world?
[12:04] <ikonia> Raseel: I've not seen you ask a question, so saying anyone ? means nothing to me
[12:04] <ikonia> pvh_sa|wrk: thats not what he wants
[12:04] <famicon> DarthSOup actually what it does is that it will give a listing of the pci stuff
[12:04] <void^> borbus: doubt it will hurt much.. you can just set it to noauto,user or something like that of course
[12:05] <famicon> eg mobo chipsets
[12:05] <koltan> famicon: Ubunto doesn't start. It stops at executing the local script
[12:05]  * pvh_sa|wrk tries to figure out what DNS has got to do with DOS
[12:05] <famicon> which local script
[12:05] <koltan> famicon: where are the instalation logs?
[12:05] <famicon>  /var/log
[12:05] <DarthSOup> famicon, I'm totally new to linux here
[12:05] <Raseel> ikonia:Gotcha !!! I have trouble with my head-phone jack on my Sony Vaio VGN-FZ140E with ubuntu Gutsy, and the ubuntu-laptop channel is not responding.
[12:05] <famicon> ahahahaha
[12:06] <wers> anyone here has a pwc webcam?
[12:06] <wers> my logitech quickcam doesn't work well in gutsy but it worked well on feisty
[12:06] <Raseel> ikonia:I can hear sound when I boot into Vista (sory for saying the "v" word here :-))
[12:06] <Kalamansi> lmnts: ikonia : pvh_sa|wrk: i tried to change my resolv.conf like for example my isp's dns is <IP_ADDRESS> .. i change it to <IP_ADDRESS> and i use it to pc2 workstation and the result is failed.. pc2 cannot connect to internet if i use <IP_ADDRESS> dns.. but if i use the dns of my isp i pc2 can connect to internet... how to setup a fake dns to resolv.conf?
[12:06] <wers> there seems to be a problem with the pwc driver in gutsy
[12:07] <Raseel> ikonia:But when i boot into Ubunut, I still hear from the Laptop speakers and no sound from the head-phones
[12:07] <famicon> Kalamansi does that adress have an actual resolver running on it
[12:07] <lmnts> famicon: It's the network address (assuming a class C network)... dont bother. :)
[12:07] <famicon> unless you have either bind9 handling those querries its not gonna work
[12:07] <famicon> lmnts yeah i know
[12:07]  * famicon has several Class C ranges regged in his name
[12:07] <Kalamansi> shit i cannot explain it well i guess
[12:07]  * famicon is awesome like that
[12:08] <Kalamansi> english is not my 1st language thats the problem
[12:08] <Kalamansi> hehehe
[12:08] <pvh_sa|wrk> Kalamansi, so you want a local DNS, but it must also work for resolving on the internet, right? so you need to set your DNS on <IP_ADDRESS> to forward queries to your ISP's DNS... making sense?
[12:08] <Kalamansi> errrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:08] <loxley_> Kalamansi: yes, you need a resolver still.. as famicon said
[12:08] <lmnts> famicon: Operate your own AS?
[12:08] <Kalamansi> what the! the!
[12:08] <Kalamansi> hehehe
[12:08] <Krstfrs> where is the open-nautilus-on-usb-stick-plug-in defined?
[12:08] <famicon> lmnts something like that
[12:08] <famicon> got my own little registrar/isp going for me