[11:37] <liable> Shavnir: dont know actually, are you american or english or ??
[11:37] <camcorder> shavnir: well just try w/o it, if you have problems w/ filenames you can alwasy umount and  remount
[11:37] <Shavnir> liable : American.  I speak some Japanese, but I didn't have any Japanese stuff on the drive before formatting today.
[11:37] <kev0r> Only when i'm root i can double click an icon of a CDrom player and mount
[11:37] <kev0r> this isn't correct right?
[11:38] <kev0r> this should be do-able as a normal user too
[11:38] <kev0r> always been that way
[11:38] <camcorder> kev0r: well you need to change your fstab
[11:38] <Shavnir> liable : Okay, so I copied the line of yours into my fstab.  Any recomandations as to where I should copy the mount command in case I need to remember it later?
[11:38] <kev0r> in what?
[11:38] <camcorder> kev0r: add user to options tab of fstab, for cdrom
[11:38] <liable> Shavnir: whereever you can remember where it is :)
[11:38] <kev0r> camcorder: i didn't change it... howcome it's just b0rked at once
[11:39] <liable> Shavnir: just write it down
[11:39] <camcorder> kev0r: it's not b0rked for me , but dunno if there's such  a problem it might be due to that
[11:39] <Shavnir> liable : I'm horrible about organization.  TO THE DESKTOP IT GOES!
[11:39] <kev0r> and where exactly do i add myself to option tab of fstab?
[11:39] <camcorder> Shavnir: you have that line wrong though
[11:39] <camcorder> shavnir: ' o user,umask=000'
[11:40] <ompaul> with a set volume control on the screen
[11:40] <camcorder> shavnir: there should not be 'o' there
[11:40] <Shavnir> Oh okay
[11:40] <camcorder> kev0r: vi /etc/fstab
[11:40] <Shavnir> In my fstab do I need a user flag or not?
[11:40] <camcorder> kev0r: and check the line that has /media/cdrom
[11:40] <topyli> Shavnir: i'm so glad tomboy works these days. helps with my vast collection of random notes :)
[11:40] <liable> camcorder: for the commandline entry?
[11:40] <kev0r> i'm checking it
[11:40] <camcorder> liable: for command line entry it should be -o
[11:41] <kev0r> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[11:41] <kev0r> should i change noauto to auto? :P
[11:41] <Shavnir> topyli : I always found it ironic that my organization got worse after I got a palm pilot.  Started downloading all the stuff for it and ended up with files every which way.
[11:41] <camcorder> kev0r: well you have it correct that problem might be permissions on /media/cdrom0
[11:41] <Shavnir> liable : Also do I want auto or noauto on my fstab entry?
[11:41] <kev0r> isn't the problem that "noauto"
[11:41] <camcorder> kev0r: can you plz type ls -d /mnt/cdrom0
[11:41] <camcorder> kev0r: noauto is fine
[11:42] <liable> Shavnir: auto to mount at boot
[11:42] <Shavnir> Okay.
[11:42] <Shavnir> Oh crapsticks
[11:42] <kev0r> no such file/dir
[11:42] <Shavnir> I don't have permission to modify my fstab
[11:42] <topyli> Shavnir: yeah, handhelds are like windows boxen. i'm always trying out freeware stuff, each more useless than the other
[11:43] <Shavnir> What's the chmod to give me rw on a file?
[11:43] <kev0r> camcorder: no such file/dir
[11:43] <liable> Shavnir: actually you dont need that auto bit anyway
[11:43] <camcorder> kev0r: ah sory ls -d /media/cdrom0
[11:43] <ompaul> Shavnir, you do it you type sudo vi /etc/fstab
[11:43] <kev0r> tried that
[11:43] <kev0r> it gives me blue letters
[11:43] <liable> Shavnir: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:43] <kev0r> /media/cdrom0
[11:44] <camcorder> kev0r: but what' are the permissions
[11:44] <Shavnir> ompaul : Dosen't help me much when I'm already pico'ing (although it put me in nano >_< ) the file. :(
[11:44] <kev0r> doesn't say
[11:44] <camcorder> ls -dl /media/cdrom0
[11:44] <kev0r> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2005-03-28 10:20 cdrom0
[11:44] <kev0r> dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root 4096 2005-03-28 09:44 cdrom1
[11:44] <kev0r> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    6 2005-03-28 10:20 cdrom -> cdrom0
[11:45] <Shavnir> ompaul : I learned pico 'cause it was the only one that worked with the backspace when being telnetted / ssh'ed to from a windows box.
[11:45] <camcorder> kev0r: it seems alright, do you experience that for all cds?
[11:45] <MFKR> Alright, I'm finally on ubuntu :D
[11:45] <ompaul> Shavnir, well whatever you learnt you must use sudo to do the edit
[11:45] <kev0r> yes, but it was good before
[11:45] <liable> MFKR: thought you were going to bed :)
[11:45] <Rhymes> is there a changelog for ubuntu breezy?
[11:46] <MFKR> Decided against it :P
[11:46] <kev0r> camcorder: what chmod you got on mount and umount in /bin/??
[11:46] <Shavnir> Okay
[11:46] <camcorder> kev0r: can you try manually on terminal 'mount /dev/cdrom'
[11:46] <camcorder> or umount
[11:46] <MFKR> Alright, so now that I do have ubuntu installed -- how do I know if it detected my video card correctly?
[11:46] <kev0r> kev0r@ubuntu:/bin$ mount /dev/cdrom
[11:46] <kev0r> mount: must be superuser to use mount
[11:46] <Shavnir> ompaul : That takes foresight, which I greatly lack, lol.
[11:46] <kev0r> i think that we located the problem :)
[11:46] <hardychow> sudo mount
[11:46] <BlackLabel> sudo
[11:46] <kev0r> omg, i know
[11:46] <mitza> where can i find a theme that makes the terminal borders invisible ;Gnome???
[11:46] <kev0r> but that's not the issue :)
[11:47] <goonie> is anyone having problems with streaming media over their local network? MP3's won't play in XMMX unless I copy them to my local machine first
[11:47] <ompaul> Shavnir, well here have a bottle of afterthought and do it again :)
[11:47] <Shavnir> ompaul : I used a shot of copy and paste between terminal windows myself. :)
[11:47] <topyli> MFKR: if you have video, you're on the winning side already :)
[11:47] <kev0r> camcorder: the permissions on mount seem right to me
[11:47] <kev0r> kev0r@ubuntu:/bin$ ls -al |grep mount
[11:47] <kev0r> -rwxrwxr-x   1 root root  72536 2005-03-17 20:09 mount
[11:47] <MFKR> Haha, that's true. but anyway, I found it and it's there.
[11:48] <hardychow> Toterm-xine is better than xmms
[11:48] <MFKR> Now, why can't I change back to 1280x1024? I hate 1024x768.
[11:48] <liable> goonie: what error do you get
[11:48] <camcorder> kev0r: well it's fstab issue but dunno
[11:48] <goonie> liable~ no error really.. just doesn't do anything
[11:48] <kev0r> hmm.. i've been doing some chmodding in the bindir
[11:48] <camcorder> kev0r: it should let you mount as user since you got user on the /dev/cdrom line
[11:48] <camcorder> kev0r: well can you try mount /dev/hdc
[11:48] <topyli> MFKR: which video card do you have? X may have decided the free drivers won't yield a higher resolution
[11:48] <goonie> liable~ doesn't hang or anything, just doesn't play
[11:49] <MFKR> ATI Radeon 9200 SE.
[11:49] <kev0r> must b suprusr
[11:49] <kev0r> it spits at me,
[11:49] <mitza> where can i find a theme that makes the terminal borders invisible ;Gnome???
[11:49] <liable> goonie: does the equaliser move or nothing at all
[11:49] <jfk303> hile, does anyone know a good perl ide for linux (and if I can apt-get it?)
[11:49] <topyli> MFKR: yeah, you won't get full performance in the free world but need the ATI driver
[11:50] <Shavnir> Random question, if I'm adding an fstab entry for a fat32 drive, do I just put in "fat32" or is there another name for it?
[11:50] <goonie> liable~ no nothing happens but the correct filename is scrolling at the thop
[11:50] <MFKR> But doesn't ATI kind of let the Linux world down a bit? :P
[11:50] <camcorder> jfk303: vim
[11:50] <camcorder> shavnir: vfat
[11:51] <Shavnir> camcorder : Any special flags I should set?
[11:51] <ompaul> mitza, you can modify any theme you want, however what you are expressing there is a wish to never move a terminal never resize one so I would suggest you use actl+alt+f2 or f3 or one of thost
[11:51] <Shavnir> I've got rw,user,auto,nosuid,nodev
[11:51] <camcorder> shavnir: maybe, just check `man mount`
[11:51] <camcorder> shavnir: and search vfat with : /vfat
[11:51] <camcorder> or search "Mount options for vfat"
[11:51] <topyli> MFKR: yeah, and nvidia too. matrox has good supports, but gamers don't like their cards (great 2D for work machines though)
[11:51] <ompaul> mitza, that should be ctrl+alt+f2 or f3
[11:52] <ompaul> mitza, to get back here make the f key f7
[11:52] <Shavnir> Okay, I think its good.
[11:52] <Blue-Omega> how can i upgrade my Ubuntu 4.10 in to 5.04 without reinstall it?
[11:52] <mitza> haha :D
[11:52] <mitza> not that one
[11:52] <mitza> is a gnome theme
[11:52] <mitza> or something like that
[11:52] <topyli> Blue-Omega: change sources.list and upgrade away
[11:52] <Shavnir> So I've got my harddrives back.  Good.
[11:53] <Shavnir> Its like 5am so I'm gonna hit the hay
[11:53] <mitza> that makes terminal borders invisible;
[11:53] <MFKR> Hmm, sounds like ATI offers drivers for ATI Radeon 8500 and higher series, but it says something about XFree86 and X.org, what the heck is that?
[11:53] <ompaul> mitza, write one cos I don't know one that has that as a 'feature'
[11:53] <mitza> and you write on the background
[11:53] <Shavnir> But tomorrow I'm gonna have to dig up me some nForce4 drivers.
[11:53] <Blue-Omega> i don't need to uninstall anything?
[11:53] <MFKR> (it shows that I never used linux before, eh? :P)
[11:53] <Blue-Omega> or change settings?
[11:53] <liable> goonie: how are you accessing the mp3's
[11:53] <ompaul> mitza, so you want transparent
[11:54] <Shavnir> My lspci has 15 unknown devices, 13 of which are nVidia :p
[11:54] <mitza> yes
[11:54] <sparkling> hi all
[11:54] <mitza> thats it ompaul
[11:54] <camcorder> Shavnir: what kind of card is that ;P
[11:54] <sparkling> does exist an howto to upgrade the fglrx ati driver with the newest drivers of april?
[11:54] <Shavnir> camcorder:  That's my mobo chipset and card I think.
[11:54] <goonie> liable~ just browsing to my network comps using nautilus, right clicking and selecting play with xmms
[11:54] <kev0r> what file are the users in?
[11:54] <Unlimited-Ubuntu> hi all
[11:54] <kev0r> and the groups
[11:54] <camcorder> kev0r: /etc/passwd /etc/groups
[11:55] <kev0r> kthanks :D
[11:55] <Burgundavia> MFKR, x-free/xorg are X servers, which draw stuff on your screen
[11:55] <liable> goonie: whats the permissions for the files
[11:55] <camcorder> /etc/group even
[11:55] <mitza> ompaul, do u know ?
[11:55] <Burgundavia> MFKR, all you really need to know is that hoary uses xorg
[11:55] <topyli> Blue-Omega: if you have backports installed or you have built your own packages, some may conflict
[11:55] <MFKR> Oh, alright. So basically, the drivers'll work.
[11:55] <kev0r> camcorder: it's strange, i should be able to execute mount, since it has the same chmodes as other commands I use in the bindir
[11:55] <ompaul> mitza, it does exist in the terminal hit edit and current profile - as for borders I dont know but you could go full screen - to exit hit exit
[11:55] <camcorder> kev0r: well you conf 'seems' fine - but dunno
[11:55] <mz2> sparkling, just wait for a bit and they'll eventually be included in the ubuntu restricted module packages
[11:56] <Shavnir> I wonder if my mobo is too new to have drivers on the standard install :\
[11:56] <Burgundavia> MFKR, read this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:56] <ompaul> s/hit/type/
[11:56] <sparkling> ok tnx
[11:56] <Burgundavia> MFKR, and this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:56] <goonie> liable~ the files are -r-xr--r--
[11:56] <Burgundavia> MFKR, should get you up to spead
[11:56] <camcorder> Shavnir: well don't think so, go get nvidia driver, they 'support' linux
[11:57] <Shavnir> camcorder : I'll do it in the morning, prementioned 5am clause :)
[11:57] <Shavnir> camcorder : although it does leave the two non-nVidia drivers, which I am led to believe are my ethernet ports :\
[11:58] <Amaranth> Is http://sourceforge.net completely dead for anyone else here?
[11:58] <camcorder> Shavnir: wouldy ou please paste the lspci output as private message to me
[11:58] <Shavnir> cam : Sorry, just shut 'er down for the night :\
[11:58] <MFKR> Thanks, Burgundavia.
[11:58] <Burgundavia> Amaranth, seems dead for me
[11:58] <Burgundavia> MFKR, if you have any further questions, pm me
[11:58] <ssam> amaranth, works for me
[11:59] <Burgundavia> ssam, Amaranth possibly dns updating
[11:59] <ompaul> Amaranth, not visible here
[11:59] <FreezerX> Is there another html editor than nvu. nvu is very buggy. Maybe I should try to get Dreamweaver 4.x working on ubuntu.
[11:59] <Shavnir> benefits of mutiple computers...
[12:00] <Unipal> Hi all, what is a good filemanager to run under X, and is available via ubuntu deb package?. Right now I use MC.
[12:00] <Burgundavia> FreezerX, you want wysiwyg?
[12:00] <FreezerX> sure
[12:00] <Burgundavia> Unipal, nautilus?
[12:00] <camcorder> FreezerX: well you can try bluefish, it's a nice ide, but not WYSIWYG
[12:00] <Shachaf> Unipal: Nautilus/Konqueror.
[12:00] <Burgundavia> FreezerX, hmm, bluefish is nice
[12:00] <Burgundavia> FreezerX, a little buggy in a few places though
[12:01] <ompaul> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http://sourceforge.net&probe=1 <-- could not find it
[12:01] <Unipal> I 'am looking for a filemanager with two panels. MC, totalcommander, etc
[12:01] <Shachaf> FreezerX: I think the Mozilla package includes a WYSIWYG HTML editor.
[12:01] <Burgundavia> Unipal, nautilus browse mode or konq
[12:01] <Burgundavia> Shachaf, that is nvu
[12:01] <FreezerX> Ok, thanks, I will it
[12:01] <liable> goonie: can you navigate to the samba directory with the xmms menu to play them
[12:01] <Shachaf> Unipal: Knqueror can do that, I think.
[12:01] <FreezerX> try it
[12:02] <Shachaf> Burgundavia: It's waht NVu is based on, anyway.
[12:02] <lewwy> hey guys how would i go about getting my logitech webcam working underneath ubuntu?
[12:02] <Unipal> Does nautilus heve two panels?
[12:02] <Burgundavia> Shachaf, oh, that old thing, forgot about it
[12:02] <Burgundavia> Unipal, change to browser mode
[12:02] <Burgundavia> lewwy, usb?
[12:02] <lewwy> yes Burgundavia
[12:02] <Burgundavia> lewwy, what does dmesg say?
[12:03] <Unipal> Okay, I'll try Nautilus in browsermode
[12:03] <Unipal> thanks
[12:03] <lewwy> Burgundavia, post in flood?
[12:03] <Burgundavia> lewwy, pm me
[12:03] <lewwy> k
[12:03] <lewwy> actually you PM me i dont know how
[12:03] <fazer> If I close the lid of my laptop, it goes to sleep? if it does, will it disconnect me from this chat?
[12:03] <kev0r> camcorder: it worx if i $ sudo chmod 7777 /bin/umount
[12:04] <Shachaf> kev0r: You don't want to do that.
[12:04] <camcorder> kev0r: wierd
[12:04] <Shachaf> kev0r: What's the problem, exactly?
[12:04] <kev0r> i know
[12:05] <fazer> hrmm
[12:05] <kev0r> but that makes me conclude the problem is in user permissions
[12:05] <Sixfoot5-NL> anyone knows how i can capture .rm streams in Ubuntu?
[12:05] <kev0r> Shachaf: i wasn't able to mount a cdrom as a normal user
[12:05] <malte> what might be wrong if i can't enable DMA on my dvd-reader?
[12:05] <kev0r> -rwsr-xr-x   1 root root  72536 2005-03-17 20:09 mount
[12:05] <Shachaf> kev0r: What does your fstab say?
[12:06] <bosewicht> mplayer will record streams
[12:06] <Shachaf> Sixfoot5-NL: ``apt-get install realplayer''.
[12:06] <kev0r> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[12:06] <kev0r> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[12:06] <Sixfoot5-NL> capture ?
[12:06] <fazer> How can I watch xvid/divx etc.. movies?
[12:06] <Shachaf> Sixfoot5-NL: Oh.
[12:06] <Shachaf> Sixfoot5-NL: Sorry.
[12:06] <Sixfoot5-NL> i can play it but cant save it to disk.
[12:06] <bosewicht> audacity will as well
[12:06] <Sixfoot5-NL> mplayer, hmmm
[12:06] <Sixfoot5-NL> had some problems installing that one
[12:07] <bosewicht> lol..me too
[12:07] <Shachaf> kev0r: What error does ``mount'' give?
[12:07] <kev0r> only superuser can use mount
[12:07] <Sixfoot5-NL> cant install mplayer with synaptic
[12:08] <fazer> How do you get mplayer?
[12:08] <bosewicht> nope, u can build it tho
[12:08] <fazer> bosewicht: how?
[12:08] <anahira> ola
[12:08] <Shachaf> kev0r: What mount command did you use?
[12:08] <Sixfoot5-NL> if i need to do make and make config and that kind a stuff ill better switch back to windoze :-)
[12:08] <anahira> hello
[12:08] <emilie> Shachaf> I installed MC to retrieve my lost essay. How do I do it? Do you know?
[12:09] <camcorder> fazer: add multiverse repo and yum install it
[12:09] <bosewicht> download the source packages...including the deps and build them
[12:09] <Shachaf> emilie: I don't remember.
[12:09] <kev0r> i first see ubuntu doesn't auto-mount
[12:09] <Shachaf> emilie: Let me see...
[12:09] <kev0r> $ mount /media/cdrom1
[12:09] <kev0r> mount: must be superuser to use mount
[12:09] <Sixfoot5-NL> build mplayer....hmmm
[12:09] <emilie> Thanx
[12:09] <Sixfoot5-NL> easy?
[12:09] <bosewicht> hmm, if u follow the instructions
[12:10] <bosewicht> just download mplayer and the deps that are giving the problems
[12:10] <Sixfoot5-NL> ill try it
[12:10] <Sixfoot5-NL> laterrrr
[12:10] <Shachaf> emilie: Are you using ext3?
[12:10] <bosewicht> you may be able to use apt to get the rest of the pkgs
[12:10] <liable> kev0r: when you browse to your cd drive in a file browser, can you see in it
[12:11] <kev0r> negative, only root message
[12:11] <kev0r> well it's just not mounted :)
[12:11] <emilie> shachaf> i think so... Or is it reiser...?
[12:11] <Shachaf> emilie: If you're using ext3, you're out of luck.
[12:11] <kev0r> Unable to mount the selected volume.
[12:11] <kev0r> mount: must be superuser to use mount
[12:11] <kev0r> same problem
[12:11] <Shachaf> emilie: It would work with ext2, though.
[12:11] <Shachaf> emilie: http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/2003-January/006114.html
[12:12] <kev0r> but when i chmod 7777 mount/umount the problem is gone, why is that a bad idea Shachaf?
[12:12] <Shachaf> emilie: s/would/might/
[12:12] <Shachaf> kev0r: That's because you're enabling setuid.
[12:12] <Shachaf> kev0r: Which means that mount is always run as toot.
[12:12] <camcorder> kev0r: well i can edit it w/ vi, and make it a bash script, and run it as root ;)
[12:13] <kev0r> that would require me to fill in a pass every time
[12:13] <Shachaf> kev0r: Because then anybody could delete/replace the file.
[12:13] <kev0r> Shachaf: that doesn't sound good :)
[12:13] <camcorder> kev0r: it's a single user box, though it's not that big problem
[12:13] <kev0r> it's not
[12:14] <camcorder> kev0r: unless you don't let shell axx
[12:14] <goonie> liable~ ok... if I just mount my windows shares to /mnt/somename i can play the mp3's but not if I browse with the nautilus network browser... should have figured that one out myself :$
[12:14] <kev0r> i've shell x-s on my box for a few folks
[12:14] <bosewicht> until someone gets to ur box, wether locally or remotely
[12:14] <Shachaf> kev0r: What were your fstab entries again?
[12:14] <Shachaf> kev0r: And the command you used?
[12:14] <kev0r> //dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[12:14] <kev0r> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[12:14] <emilie> Shachaf> Is there any way to see wether I have ext3 or reiser?
[12:14] <kev0r> mount /media/cdrom1
[12:15] <anahira> mamonaaaa
[12:15] <Shachaf> emilie: Look in /etc/fstab.
[12:15] <camcorder> emiliie: use fdisk
[12:15] <Shachaf> emilie: Or type ``mount''.
[12:15] <kev0r> hmm when i just do "mount" i don't get an error though
[12:16] <camcorder> lev0r: surer you wont, coz mount is working
[12:16] <fazer> Does anyone know if I close the lid fo my laptop, what will happen to Ubuntu?
[12:16] <Shachaf> kev0r: I have the same first line as you on my system.
[12:16] <fazer> Will the processes still be running?
[12:16] <camcorder> kev0r: what I really wonder if mount is really reading fstab
[12:16] <Shachaf> kev0r: Let me see if I can mount a CD...
[12:16] <kev0r> Shachaf: yes, plz do try /mount/cdrom1
[12:17] <kev0r> mount /media/cdrom1
[12:17] <kev0r> lol
[12:17] <camcorder> kev0r: can you use that command "strace mount &> log && grep fstab log && rm log"
[12:17] <Shachaf> kev0r: cdrom0, actually.
[12:17] <Shachaf> kev0r: Is cdrom0 working for you?
[12:17] <sparkling> i'm trying to see a dvd-rom, i've enabled the dma but the image is not perfect... i've also downloaded the libdvdcss2 from marillat, do i need other to make the video perfect? i use xine
[12:17] <kev0r> both aren't
[12:17] <kev0r> 1/0
[12:17] <emilie> Shachaf> ``mount'' tells me nothing about ext3
[12:18] <emilie> Shachaf> says RW in paranthesis
[12:18] <camcorder> kev0r: strace mount /media/cdrom0 &> log && grep fstab log && rm log
[12:18] <camcorder> emilie: coz it's not mounted
[12:18] <liable> kev0r: sudo umount /dev/cdrom0 then as user mount/dev/cdrom0
[12:18] <Shachaf> emilie: You should get a line similiar to: ``/dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)''.
[12:18] <camcorder> emilie: just type fdisk /dev/hda (or hatver) and type p
[12:18] <kev0r> $ strace mount /media/cdrom0 &> log && grep fstab log && rm log
[12:18] <kev0r> bash: log: Permission denied
[12:19] <camcorder> kev0r: do that on your home dir
[12:19] <Shachaf> emilie: No, fdisk -l /dev/hda, if you're using fdisk.
[12:19] <camcorder> kev0r: you're in /sbin :)
[12:19] <kev0r> $ sudo umount /dev/cdrom0
[12:19] <kev0r> umount: /dev/cdrom0: not found
[12:19] <kev0r> $ mount /dev/cdrom1
[12:19] <kev0r> mount: must be superuser to use mount
[12:19] <itay> hi!
[12:19] <kev0r> $ strace mount /media/cdrom0 &> log && grep fstab log && rm log
[12:19] <kev0r> open("/etc/fstab", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
[12:19] <kev0r> read(3, "# /etc/fstab: static file system"..., 4096) = 534
[12:19] <itay> how do I change the konsole language to english?
[12:20] <itay> I don't want it to be the language I chose in the installation
[12:20] <Shachaf> kev0r: Does ``mount /media/cdrom0'' work?
[12:20] <itay> what can I do?
[12:20] <kev0r> itay: console language is always english
[12:20] <camcorder> italy: just put LANG=C
[12:20] <kev0r> $ mount /media/cdrom0
[12:20] <kev0r> mount: must be superuser to use mount
[12:20] <itay> I mean apt-get and other tools
[12:20] <bosewicht> apt-get moo
[12:20] <bosewicht> :)
[12:20] <itay> I want them to be in english
[12:20] <camcorder> itay: and LANGUAGE=C then expot LANG LANGUAGE into you .bashrc
[12:20] <camcorder> C = english
[12:21] <Shachaf> bosewicht: My APT has had Super-Cow powers for a while.
[12:21] <liable> kev0r: sudo umount /dev/cdrom1 then as user mount/dev/cdrom1
[12:21] <Sixfoot5-NL> building mplayer , i have gcc 2.96 , what a mess....
[12:21] <kev0r> liable: tried that
[12:21] <kev0r> the drive is unmounted at the moment
[12:21] <kev0r> cannot mount
[12:21] <liable> with the 1
[12:21] <Shachaf> camcorder: You could've simply used ``strace mount /media/cdrom0 2>&1 | grep fstab''.
[12:21] <emilie> Shachaf> fdisk -l /dev/hda says cannot open /dev/hda
[12:22] <bosewicht> hda1  or 2
[12:22] <Sixfoot5-NL> i just wonder, why is this linux so full of none working programms instead of a few programms which will work fine?
[12:22] <datsunami> btw.. wats sudo for?
[12:22] <Shachaf> emilie: What's the first line of the output of ``mount''?
[12:22] <camcorder> schachaf: yeah that's better anyways
[12:22] <bosewicht> uu have to use the partition number
[12:22] <liable> kev0r: ls /dev/cdrom1
[12:22] <itay> thanks!
[12:22] <emilie> Schachaf> /dev/hda1 on / type unknown (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:22] <kev0r> kev0r@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/cdrom1
[12:22] <kev0r> /dev/cdrom1
[12:23] <Shachaf> emilie: Type unknown?
[12:23] <Shachaf> emilie: That's strange?
[12:23] <camcorder> emilie: just check it w/ fstab
[12:23] <camcorder> and see which id it has
[12:23] <liable> kev0r: sudo ls /dev/cdrom1
[12:23] <camcorder> fdisk anwaysy :P
[12:23] <Shachaf> emilie: I'd expect it to know the type of a mounted filesystem, particularly /.
[12:23] <goonie> arrrghhh... can't get mplayer to work... VLC doesn't work either.. w32codecs are installed but mplayer just hangs... have to kill the pid to close it
[12:23] <kev0r> same output
[12:23] <kev0r> liable:
[12:24] <bosewicht> run mplayer from the terminal and read the output
[12:24] <liable> kev0r: there is a disk in there?
[12:24] <emilie> camcorder> I don't understand
[12:24] <kev0r> lol efc
[12:24] <camcorder> goonie: that's because it's trying to use alsa as sound device
[12:24] <kev0r> if i do sudo mount /media/cdrom1
[12:24] <kev0r> it's mounted
[12:25] <Shachaf> kev0r: And you can't umount it?
[12:25] <camcorder> emilie: wht's the id line on fdisk -l /dev/hdaX
[12:25] <Shachaf> kev0r: Is that the problem?
[12:25] <kev0r> i can umount it
[12:25] <kev0r> but only as root
[12:25] <kev0r> that's the problem
[12:25] <Shachaf> kev0r: If it is, then simply change user to users in /etc/fstab.
[12:25] <kev0r> it's users
[12:25] <Shachaf> kev0r: Sorry, I didn't understand you.
[12:25] <liable> kev0r: what does 'ls /dev/cdrom1' give then
[12:25] <Shachaf> kev0r: It is?
[12:25] <camcorder> it should be user
[12:25] <kev0r> it is now ^^
[12:25] <emilie> camcorder> no line
[12:25] <camcorder> and it's user :P
[12:26] <Shachaf> camcorder: It should be user.
[12:26] <emilie> camcorder> no ID
[12:26] <Shachaf> camcorder: s/user/users/
[12:26] <kev0r> kev0r@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /media/cdrom1
[12:26] <kev0r> kev0r@ubuntu:~$ mount /media/cdrom1
[12:26] <kev0r> mount: must be superuser to use mount
[12:26] <kev0r> didn't work :(
[12:26] <camcorder> Shachaf: for what?  user (allow a user  to  mount), from man fstab
[12:27] <Shachaf> camcorder: ``man mount''.
[12:27] <bosewicht> try cat /etc/group | grep cdrom
[12:27] <Shachaf> camcorder: And look for ``users''.
[12:27] <camcorder>        Thus, given a line
[12:27] <camcorder>               /dev/cdrom  /cd  iso9660  ro,user,noauto,unhide
[12:27] <liable> kev0r: ls -l /bin/mount
[12:27] <kev0r> i c
[12:27] <pek> anyone know why openoffice spreadsheet turn the months I type with captial letter to lower-case? I type April and it autocorrects to april
[12:28] <emilie> camcorder> says unable to open /dev/hda
[12:28] <kev0r> $ ls -l /bin/mount
[12:28] <kev0r> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 72536 2005-03-17 20:09 /bin/mount
[12:28] <camcorder> emilie: do tah as root
[12:28] <goonie> camcorder~ I changed the audio output to esd but now I get: "MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio"
[12:28] <bosewicht> hda1!!!!  use the partition number
[12:28] <Shachaf> camcorder: ``Only the user that mounted a  filesystem  can unmount it again.  If any user should be able to unmount, then use users instead of user in the fstab line.''.
[12:28] <camcorder> goonie: you better use alsa for everything
[12:28] <Shachaf> camcorder: From ``man mount''.
[12:28] <liable> kev0r: thats fucked up then
[12:28] <kev0r> Shachaf: what does a ls -l /bin/mount give you?
[12:29] <camcorder> Shachaf: yeah i read but that's not a good behaviour, i don't want anyone to umount my own mounted cdrom
[12:29] <Shachaf> kev0r: ``-rwsr-xr-x  1 root root 72536 2005-03-17 21:09 /bin/mount''.
[12:29] <emilie> camcorder> ID: 83
[12:29] <kev0r> wtf!?
[12:29] <kev0r> what's that s on the 4th place?
[12:29] <goonie> how do I change everything to alsa.. xmms didn't work with alsa after the hoary upgrade.. can I change some system wide setting to alsa?
[12:29] <kev0r> there's an x with me
[12:29] <camcorder> emilie: that's ext3 i think
[12:29] <Shachaf> camcorder: kev0r's problem is that he/she can't umount the cdrom that root mounted.
[12:29] <kev0r> there is the problem!!!
[12:29] <bosewicht> camcorder try this and see if ur name comes up   cat /etc/group | grep cdrom   you should me a member of that group
[12:30] <kev0r> i found it Shachaf , what chmod nr is ur mount?
[12:30] <kev0r> to make -rwsr-xr-x
[12:30] <liable> goonie: its in the xmms menu to chande the driver
[12:30] <emilie> camcorder> Then it is impossible to retrive lost file...?
[12:30] <Shachaf> kev0r: How would I find out?
[12:30] <Shachaf> kev0r: The ``s'' means setuid, I think.
[12:30] <kev0r> ah i found it
[12:30] <kev0r> it's chmodded 4755
[12:30] <kev0r> there is the whole problem :)
[12:31] <Shachaf> kev0r: That makes sense.
[12:31] <Shachaf> kev0r: Is yours?
[12:31] <kev0r> idd :)
[12:31] <goonie> liable~ yes xmms works with esd but mplayer hangs with alsa and crashes completely with esd... what can I do?
[12:31] <kev0r> that's why chmod 7777 worked :P
[12:31] <camcorder> emilie: well probably unless you use some tricks to find inodes etc. etc.
[12:31] <kev0r> but Shachaf we all overlooked the little "s"
[12:31] <kev0r> crazy thing
[12:31] <ompaul> Sourceforge.net is back
[12:31] <camcorder> emilie: which is not easy, try som third party applications if you need that
[12:31] <Shachaf> kev0r: ``mount'' should be setuid -- otherwise it can't mount as a user.
[12:31] <kev0r> yes so we all know now ^^
[12:32] <Shachaf> kev0r: No thank you.
[12:32] <kev0r> cola? :P
[12:32] <emilie> camcorder> such as?
[12:32] <kev0r> is there an LS command to just give the CHMOD nr in stead of the -rwxr-xr-x
[12:32] <kev0r> ?
[12:32] <emilie> camcorder> I think it's a bit out of my league...
[12:32] <Shachaf> emilie: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/01/msg00885.html
[12:33] <queuetue> I have a brand new MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI nForce 4 motherboard.  I've tried 6 different IDE disks with it, and 3 different cables, and every one of them reports errors (but not in other machines.)  I've tested this with both multiple Linux installs and a Windows XP install.    Do I need to send this motherboard back, or could I just be a dolt and need to change some bios setting?
[12:35] <ompaul> queuetue, does the bios give out?
[12:35] <queuetue> ompaul, "give out"?
[12:35] <emilie> Shachaf> thanx for supporting... I give up... It's to complicated for me
[12:35] <ompaul> queuetue, complain as it boots during post?
[12:35] <sparkling> how can i make "rpm --replacefiles -ivh --force packagename" with dpkg?
[12:35] <Shachaf> emilie: Did you write the file in plaintext?
[12:35] <emilie> camcorder> thanx for your support...
[12:36] <queuetue> ompaul, Not that I've noticed.  I first see errors (under ubuntu) after "Starting Ubuntu"
[12:36] <camcorder> np
[12:36] <ompaul> what are the errors?
[12:36] <emilie> Shchaf> Nope doc
[12:36] <ompaul> queuetue, message me if they are plentyful or put them in pastebin.com
[12:36] <emilie> Shachaf> Nope doc
[12:36] <Raz> Alright, thanks Burgundavia for all y our help. It's working fine now. :)
[12:36] <Shachaf> emilie: That makes things even more complicated.
[12:36] <goonie> camcorder~ how can I use mplayer when it hangs with alsa and crashes completely when i changed to esd?
[12:37] <Burgundavia> Raz, np
[12:37] <Shachaf> emilie: You might have a chance o finding it with grep, though.
[12:37] <camcorder> goonie: killall esd and run mplayer
[12:37] <queuetue> ompaul, do you mind a URL?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=135196#post135196
[12:37] <MFKR> haha, forgot to switch nicks XD
[12:37] <ompaul> queuetue, not at all
[12:37] <emilie> Shachaf> i'm pretty newbie... Can you guide me?
[12:37] <MFKR> Now, I got one last, final, newbish question: does Ubuntu come with Wine installed?
[12:37] <Shachaf> emilie: What's the first line of the output of ``mount'', again?
[12:38] <Shachaf> MFKR: No.
[12:38] <Echylo> MFKR, no
[12:38] <Shachaf> MFKR: ``sudo apt-get install wine''.
[12:38] <emilie> Shachaf>/dev/hda1 on / type unknown (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:38] <Shachaf> emilie: Try (this might take a while):
[12:39] <ompaul> queuetue, have you tried a live cd?
[12:39] <goonie> camcorder~ ok mplayer running again but I can't play files, it just hangs... what can I do?
[12:39] <itay> why I can't install java through apt-get? E: Couldn't find package java
[12:39] <Shachaf> emilie: Is there a particular pice of text in the document that you remember?
[12:39] <queuetue> ompaul, I have, it boots fine, but I see DriveSeekReady errors on hda in dmesg.
[12:39] <camcorder> goonie: it still hangs after you killall esd and run it?
[12:39] <emilie> Shachaf> Yes
[12:40] <Shachaf> itay: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[12:40] <Shachaf> emilie: Which is?
[12:40] <Shachaf> emilie: How long is it, I mean?
[12:40] <Shachaf> emilie: And was it all left in the same format?
[12:40] <emilie> Shachaf> The part I remember?
[12:41] <Shachaf> emilie: Yes.
[12:41] <goonie> camcorder~ crashed and exited with error 11 something about audio_decode ...
[12:41] <Shachaf> emilie: It has to be exact.
[12:41] <ompaul> queuetue, you get the same kind of impact on that other software from the town of redmond?
[12:41] <emilie> Shachaf> i have an old useless version of the document so pretty long...
[12:42] <camcorder> goonie: hmm are you sure you have necessary codecs to play that thing
[12:42] <Shachaf> emilie: A few words should be enough.
[12:42] <emilie> Shachaf: ok
[12:42] <Shachaf> emilie: As long as they're all formatted the same.
[12:42] <Shachaf> emilie: Let me see...
[12:42] <goonie> camcorder~ i installed w32codecs, thougt that should do it
[12:42] <camcorder> goonie: check if it crashes on all things it might not be a esd vs alsa issue (hanging is sure it is but i tell this for crashing)
[12:42] <emilie> Shachaf> they are
[12:42] <camcorder> goonie: just try something else
[12:42] <goonie> k.. bbl
[12:44] <queuetue> ompaul, with much less error reporting, but the format drive portion of the install ran for about 8 hourd and never got to 1%... (I don't know how normal this is - I haven't used win for years, and will not use it again after this test, but I suspect this is too slow even for Windows. :) )
[12:44] <ompaul> queuetue, regretfully I know what you say to be true
[12:44] <nydust> where in apache2 do i enable php? I have done an apt-get install apache2 and all the php4 libs, but it dosent work
[12:45] <Shachaf> emilie: Sorry.
[12:45] <Shachaf> emilie: I waqs wrong.
[12:45] <markuman> someone have install bos ?
[12:45] <Shachaf> emilie: I don't know how to do it after all.
[12:45] <markuman> it doesn't run
[12:45] <ompaul> queuetue, I would be inclined to look in the bios for something to do with disks - dma and stuff, google for the board name and disk drive
[12:45] <emilie> Shachaf> no sweat
[12:45] <markuman> :-/
[12:45] <emilie> Shachaf> Thanx for trying
[12:45] <Shachaf> markuman: What's ``bos''?
[12:45] <goonie> camcorder~ err... it might have been the file I was testing hehe... another file works just fine... Thank you very much
[12:46] <Shachaf> emilie: Sorry.
[12:46] <camcorder> np
[12:46] <camcorder> it's codec issue not your files fault ;P
[12:46] <markuman> shachaf, a game
[12:46] <goonie> liable~ thanks for all your help today.. everything working now... until next crash guys hehe
[12:46] <Shachaf> markuman: Oh.
[12:47] <Shachaf> markuman: I don't know it, but waht's the error?
[12:47] <ompaul> queuetue, I have looked on google and get no worthwhile response
[12:48] <markuman> markuman@ubuntu:~$ stratagus-bos
[12:48] <markuman> Battle of Survival default config file loading ...
[12:48] <markuman> Can't open file: No such file or directory
[12:48] <markuman> Can't open file: No such file or directory
[12:48] <markuman> ... ready!
[12:48] <queuetue> ompaul, Same here.  Would you blame hardware yet?  (And would you assume it is not a design problem, but a defect of some kind?)
[12:49] <ompaul> queuetue, it seems to be an issue where the bios can not talk to a drive I know the other day I had extreme issues with a 64bit box talking to a 32bit hard drive it had to do with making the drive master /slave in the presence an sata disk
[12:49] <ompaul> queuetue, I am thinking hardware defect
[12:49] <talash> Hi all!
[12:49] <talash> How do I set up a hostname in smb.conf?
[12:49] <ompaul> queuetue, what is annoying me is one thing
[12:49] <Shachaf> markuman: Downloading bos myself...
[12:49] <ompaul> queuetue, the cdrom can be read
[12:50] <ompaul> queuetue, I take it the cdrom is atapi
[12:50] <markuman> shachaf, i think, i have the mistake
[12:50] <ompaul> queuetue, I take it the cdrom is atapi/ide
[12:50] <Shachaf> markuman: What is it?
[12:50] <markuman> shachaf, install bos and stratagus
[12:50] <markuman> and not only bos
[12:50] <queuetue> ompaul, Yes.  hand the secondary channel (hdb, hdd) are boith completely readable and writable.
[12:50] <Shachaf> markuman: Stratagus is a dependency of bos.
[12:50] <markuman> but don't know....will try it
[12:51] <Shachaf> markuman: SO it's being installed automatically.
[12:51] <fazer> Good morning, bah, I can't lseep.
[12:51] <ompaul> queuetue, then I point at the hardware of the first interface
[12:51] <Echylo> Shachaf, what is bos? just an expansion of stratagu?
[12:51] <markuman> hm...i have make apt-get install stratagus, and he done it....so apt-get have not install it with bos automaticaly
[12:51] <ompaul> queuetue, ide0 seems to be bad / solder / connection /something else
[12:51] <Shachaf> Echylo: Ask markuman.
[12:51] <queuetue> ompaul, Not just the interface - this same behavior happens if I plug a HD into hdc...
[12:51] <Echylo> markuman, what is bos? :p
[12:52] <fazer> Does anyone know why there is no sound when I play a avi in VLC?
[12:52] <Shachaf> Echylo: As far as I know, stratagus is just a game engine.
[12:52] <queuetue> ompaul, hdb and hdd seem fine, and either channel workds as ATAPI...
[12:52] <markuman> yes, for stratagus - Battle of Survival
[12:52] <Echylo> Shachaf, stratagus was a game on it's own I think
[12:52] <Shachaf> markuman: How did you install bos?
[12:52] <Shachaf> markuman: With apt?
[12:52] <ompaul> queuetue, yeah I would be back with that board to the shop - now :)
[12:52] <markuman> yes with apt
[12:52] <markuman> apt-ceache search bos
[12:52] <Shachaf> markuman: I'm getting a different error from you.
[12:53] <markuman> apt-ceache search stratagus
[12:53] <ompaul> queuetue, but I would look for another board - or in shop test
[12:53] <ompaul> of the same model
[12:53] <markuman> i think that is all what you need
[12:53] <queuetue> ompaul, unfortunatelry, newegg des not cross-ship, so it'll be a week or so.
[12:53] <Shachaf> markuman: ``X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)''.
[12:53] <fazer> Does anyone know why there is no sound when I play a avi in VLC?
[12:53] <markuman> what Shachaf?
[12:53] <ompaul> queuetue, the disadvantage of the internet :)
[12:53] <Shachaf> markuman: I'm getting this error after BoS displays its splash screen.
[12:54] <Shachaf> markuman: It's different from yours.
[12:54] <markuman> Shachaf, strange...
[12:54] <Shachaf> markuman: Wait, I'm also getting the ``can't open config file'' error.
[12:55] <ompaul> queuetue, have you got a digital camera?
[12:55] <trygvebw> hi, i'm downloading the Kubuntu livecd via bittorrent but it goes very slow. how can i speed it up?
[12:55] <ompaul> queuetue, and a different board?
[12:55] <BlackLabel> hey ompaul
[12:55] <ompaul> queuetue, and a different machine (oops)
[12:55] <fazer> mplayer vs. VLC , which is better?
[12:55] <Echylo> vlc
[12:55] <Echylo> I would choose that one
[12:56] <fazer> Echylo: i know, the video is nice but I don't hear any sound.
[12:56] <Echylo> only because it did everything in windows
[12:56] <fazer> Echylo: I get this error: [00000273]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[12:56] <Echylo> you have tried another sound serveR?
[12:56] <Echylo> cause vlc isn't installed here right now
[12:56] <fazer> Echylo: sound server?
[12:56] <Echylo> yess
[12:57] <Echylo> fazer, now it uses the oss sound server
[12:57] <fazer> Echylo: which sound server?
[12:57] <Echylo> fazer, try the esound
[12:57] <fazer> Echylo: oh.. apt-get install esound?
[12:57] <Echylo> fazer, can't you search it in the vlc settings?
[12:57] <queuetue> ompaul, No digital camera - Why?
[12:57] <Echylo> fazer,  normally with plugins I think
[12:57] <fazer> Echylo: I have...hmmm
[12:58] <Echylo> Shachaf, stratagus is the game engine indeed, stratagus-gl is a game based on it, and bos too I guess
[12:58] <ompaul> queuetue, well where I work we have to do some electronic stuff some times and the other day we used it to take macro photos and them put them on screen the blow up might just show the error
[01:00] <ompaul> queuetue, it would be nice to include a closeup photo of the board if you could see the errors
[01:01] <fazer> Echylo: hmm...it seems that esound is running but I don't know at which port..
[01:01] <ompaul> queuetue, or faults cracks in solder etc
[01:01] <queuetue> Ah.
[01:01] <Echylo> fazer: maybe the command 'netstat' will help you, run it in terminal
[01:02] <fazer> Echylo: roger that
[01:02] <queuetue> ompaul, But you are of the opinion (as am I) that this drive shoud work with standard PATA IDE drives, and there is something wrong that would not necessarily be wrong with another board of the same model?
[01:02] <Echylo> fazer, but I'm afraid that won't help you
[01:03] <fazer> Echylo: yeah, it didn't.
[01:03] <ompaul> queuetue, I am and it may be good , however I also believe in mass production and failures being in batches
[01:03] <Echylo> fazer, can't help you more then, apt-get is downloading, so I can't install vlc
[01:04] <fazer> Echylo: ah okay, what time is it for where you are at?
[01:04] <MFKR> Alright, I got WINE installed now, but WineTools can't be downloaded and installed, so I guess I'll have to do with the command line. Anyone knows how I could try installing NeverWinter through that?
[01:04] <Echylo> fazer, ?
[01:04] <queuetue> ompaul, Ok, I'll probably wind up ordering a second, fedex it, and then get the credit with the RMA...
[01:05] <ompaul> if you deal with them on a regular basis go for it
[01:05] <Echylo> mkfr mount the cd, and type "wine setup.exe"
[01:05] <fazer> Echylo: where are you from?
[01:05] <Echylo> fazer, belgium
[01:06] <fazer> Echylo: ah, Canada here.  7 AM =(
[01:06] <fazer> I shoud've been in bed hours ago
[01:06] <Echylo> :)
[01:06] <Echylo> it's 1pm here
[01:06] <queuetue> ompaul, I don't - would you go with a different vendor and justr return the board?
[01:06] <MFKR> Echylo, what's the command for mounting the CD?
[01:06] <Echylo> MFKR, normally it mounts a cd automatic
[01:07] <Echylo> so just "cd /dev/cdrom"
[01:07] <fazer> or /media/cdrom
[01:07] <Echylo> but I don't think that wine can handle Never winter nights
[01:07] <Echylo> you'll need cedega for that I'm afraid
[01:07] <ompaul> queuetue, na I would give them a chance - and tell them if they have had any other returns of that model you want something else
[01:07] <fazer> didn't Never Winter Nights releaes  Linux version? Or is that Server only?
[01:08] <Echylo> I thought they released a linux installer
[01:08] <Burgundavia> fazer, yes
[01:08] <fazer> Burgundavia: yes as in server only?
[01:08] <xvlun> NWN is available for linux for some years now...
[01:08] <Echylo> yes as in linux version I think
[01:09] <Burgundavia> fazer, both
[01:09] <Echylo> lel
[01:09] <fazer> Ah
[01:09] <carambol> firefox-1.0.3 not available for ubuntu?
[01:09] <fazer> Echylo: so, you are setting up VLC?
[01:09] <MFKR> Is it just an installer or a different version though?
[01:09] <Echylo> fazer, no not yet
[01:09] <Echylo> oh it is now :lp
[01:09] <fazer> Echylo: ah, hehe.
[01:10] <Echylo> but it's pretty slow, comp is ripping cd
[01:10] <MFKR> Hmm, I found the installer actually.
[01:10] <MFKR> Not sure if it'll work with my version though (Platinum)
[01:10] <Echylo> give it a try
[01:11] <davix> how can I install "call of duty" on linux?
[01:11] <Echylo> carambol, that firefox will probably be available in breezy, but I don't advise you to upgrade yet, cause it's pretty broken(own experiences)
[01:11] <schasi> Is there a Ubuntu netinstall cd?
[01:11] <Echylo> Davix you'll need cedega :)
[01:11] <davix> what is cedega?
[01:11] <flipy> hi
[01:11] <MFKR> If the installer doesn't work, will I need Cedega and WINE though?
[01:11] <Echylo> schasi, I don't think so, not sure though maybe unoffically
[01:12] <carambol> thx Echylo
[01:12] <flipy> is there any way to install hoary in a fake-raid (mobo controller raid)?
[01:12] <Echylo> davix, cedega supports game better, for linux and has a better support for directx
[01:12] <davix> erm, so is there a manual for it
[01:12] <fazer> mhmm
[01:12] <Echylo> davix, cedega is not 'free' though
[01:13] <fazer> VLC plays it more smoother than it did on Windows.
[01:13] <Echylo> fazer, linux handles memory better
[01:13] <bet0x> fazer, VLC rulz :D
[01:14] <fazer> Echylo, bet0x heh yeah, now only if my video card driver was better.
[01:14] <goo> Hello - I just installed Hoary, and my Firefox doesn't go to urls pasted into it - anyone knows why?
[01:14] <fazer> Everytime I scroll a page, it lags and makes the cpu reach 100%
[01:14] <Echylo> davix, check out www.transgaming.com (search amule or your p2p prog for cedega ;))
[01:14] <Echylo> fazer, yea same here
[01:14] <fazer> Echylo: you get the same scrolling issue?!
[01:14] <Echylo> fazer, where?
[01:14] <Echylo> pj
[01:14] <Echylo> no
[01:15] <ploum>  I've installed Ubuntu Hoary. Before launching Evo for the first time, I've put my backup in ~/.evolution
[01:15] <fazer> Echylo: wait, what were you referring to when you said 'yeah, same here'
[01:15] <ploum> All was fine
[01:15] <ploum> except that I've no more others adressbooks than "Personnal" :-(
[01:15] <Echylo> fazer, the need for a better video card :D
[01:15] <fazer> Echylo: true
[01:15] <queuetue> ompaul, Well, the machine just stopped POSTing completely. :)
[01:15] <Echylo> fazer, I have this old pc so I actually need a new one :)
[01:16] <arbiter_dev> i installed 5.04 for my cousin today, and she has a Dell A920 printer, which is a rebranded Lexmark 1150, the only howto i could locate was for SuSe and had an RPM, any experience here with this printer?
[01:16] <ompaul> queuetue, that might just perhaps on the off chance be some hardware issue
[01:16] <fazer> Echylo: i have an old laptop, look forward to getting an ibook or something soon.
[01:16] <Echylo> :)
[01:16] <fazer> Echylo: mine's a 366 MHz with 160 MB ram, how about you?
[01:16] <Echylo> "p2 433mhz 192 ram"
[01:16] <fazer> Echylo: oh and its laptop btw =/
[01:16] <Echylo> here it's just a desktop pc
[01:17] <Echylo> and I have a p1 65ram too
[01:17] <fazer> Ah
[01:17] <Echylo> that's the messing with everything machine ;)
[01:18] <queuetue> ompaul, Now, it posts - 15 or 16 power-off-power-on cycles...
[01:19] <yahalom> how do i make my spool directory to be mode 01777?
[01:19] <fazer> Echylo: yeah, thats always neat to have.  So, how's VLC doing?
[01:19] <MyNameIsChris> Hi, how do I install a .deb file in my home directory?
[01:19] <Echylo> fazer, installed, you'll just have to wait for my cd being ripped(1minute remaining)
[01:19] <fazer> Echylo: ah awesome
[01:20] <yahalom> anyone know?
[01:20] <maddler> MyNameIsChris... dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:20] <Echylo> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:20] <Echylo> ;)
[01:20] <Echylo> or nor?
[01:20] <Echylo> not?
[01:20] <MyNameIsChris> maddler, thanks, I am still getting used to Debian package management
[01:20] <maddler> hehehe... me too... :)
[01:21] <MyNameIsChris> Echylo, Thanks as well, you will have to be faster next time
[01:21] <kyncani> MyNameIsChris: i assume the app you want is not available with synaptic ?
[01:21] <Echylo> lel
[01:21] <Echylo> fazer, i'm looking in preferences now, can't find anything until now
[01:22] <MyNameIsChris> kyncani, I searched with apt-cache with the sources I got from ubuntuguide.org
[01:22] <fazer> Echylo: oh?
[01:22] <Echylo> fazer,  have you tried to change the output audio module?
[01:23] <kyncani> MyNameIsChris: and you've enabled main, restricted, universe and multiverse in your sources.list ?
[01:23] <fazer> Echylo: Probably, but not sure to which one?
[01:23] <Echylo> just pick one :P
[01:23] <Echylo> aha
[01:23] <Echylo> do this
[01:23] <Echylo> sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-esd
[01:24] <fazer> Echylo: ooh
[01:24] <fazer> Echylo: damn, thats cool.  *hugs Ubuntu*
[01:24] <TheBoneSilver> Giorno a tutti
[01:24] <MyNameIsChris> ouch
[01:24] <fazer> Echylo: Plugin not found?
[01:24] <fazer> *package
[01:25] <fazer> oh wait nevermind
[01:25] <Echylo> oh euhm have you activated the hoary universe repo?
[01:25] <fazer> i gave "install" twice
[01:25] <fazer> its Reading now.
[01:25] <Echylo> oh :D
[01:25] <fazer> Echylo: haha yeah, I make a lot ofmistakes, anyways, so now that its done, what do I do? just run it now?
[01:25] <Echylo> no
[01:26] <Echylo> fazer, launch vlc, go to preferences, audio, below activate advanced options, audio module to esound
[01:26] <Echylo> gtg now
[01:26] <fazer> Echylo: awesome! thanks.
[01:27] <Echylo> but does it works?
[01:27] <fazer> Echylo: no, doesn't seem to
[01:27] <fazer> still gives that /dev/dsp error.
[01:28] <markuman> for ubuntu gamers there is now an irc channel -> #ubuntu-gaming ;-)
[01:28] <fazer> along with this:
[01:28] <fazer> [00000272]  esd audio output error: cannot open esound socket (format 0x00001021 at 44100 Hz)
[01:28] <MyNameIsChris> markuman, thanks
[01:29] <MyNameIsChris> markuman, I do have a few questions
[01:29] <sparkling> when i try to run Totem i get "impossible to run, busy resource or not available" but some days ago i was using totem to listen mp3...do you how i can resolve? i've already tried to remove and reinstall...
[01:29] <dad> evening all
[01:29] <TheBoneSilver> hello , i have a problem , when i try to receive a file from Msn , the transfer is very slow , why ?
[01:30] <fazer> TheBoneSilver: that is sometimes the sender's fault..
[01:30] <floater> sparkling: cannot run program or cannot run video/audio on it ?
[01:30] <fazer> TheBoneSilver: what is the sender's connection?
[01:30] <sparkling> floater,  cannot run the program
[01:30] <floater> k, donno then
[01:31] <megamind> hi there
[01:31] <megamind> how is everyody
[01:31] <TheBoneSilver> fazer : I have connection very fast , also the sender
[01:31] <fazer> Echylo: you there?
[01:31] <fazer> TheBoneSilver: then, not sure..
[01:31] <megamind> i need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...
[01:31] <megamind> i need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...
[01:31] <TheBoneSilver> fazer : can it depended from firewall ?
[01:32] <fazer> TheBoneSilver: hmm...i would say no, if it did, your connection won't go through then..
[01:32] <fazer> TheBoneSilver: i have had the same problem myself...
[01:32] <fazer> TheBoneSilver: its usually you or the sender or both...
[01:32] <fazer> TheBoneSilver: if the other user has MSN Messenger and you are using Gaim, then there's a difference.
[01:32] <fazer> But anyways, I must get some shut eye, good nights.
[01:33] <Benjamin_L> is there any workaround to show volume icons on the desktop in breezy ? gnome-volume-manager works as it should
[01:33] <megamind> i need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...
[01:33] <megamind> i need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...
[01:33] <megamind> i need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...
[01:33] <megamind> i need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...
[01:33] <megamind> i need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...
[01:33] <megamind> i need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...
[01:33] <LinuxJones> megamind, please don't do that
[01:33] <megamind> okz ... sorry
[01:34] <megamind> linuxjones can u help me abt that ... plz
[01:34] <emilie> I can't print pdf files from xpdf. Do I need another reader?
[01:34] <LinuxJones> megamind, I have necer run squid there might be an actual irc channel on freenode for it tho.
[01:35] <LinuxJones> never*
[01:35] <ssam> emilie, try installing evince
[01:35] <megamind> oh ... how can i trace that irc channel on free node any idea ?
[01:36] <LinuxJones> megamind, you can do /list to list all the channels
[01:36] <ssam> try #squid
[01:36] <Benjamin_L> is tehre a way to show active /dev entries ?
[01:36] <emilie> ssam> Squid for me?
[01:37] <ssam> benjamin_L, do you mean find out whats mounded
[01:37] <ssam> emilile, no squid for megamind
[01:37] <ssam> benjamin_L, do you mean find out whats mounted
[01:37] <Benjamin_L> ssam, well sort of, my card reader doesn't show and so i need to mount it manually
[01:38] <Benjamin_L> gnome-volume-manager detecs it correctly
[01:38] <ssam> benjamin_L, if you type 'mount' you get a list of mounted drives
[01:38] <megamind> so i think i can not seek the help here about squid as i can not see that package at synaptic package manger :(
[01:38] <Benjamin_L> ssam, nothing there which could be the reader
[01:39] <ssam> benjamin_L, 'fdisk -l /dev/sda' will list all the partitions on a drive
[01:39] <emilie> ssam> do I need to upgrade to hoary?
[01:39] <LinuxJones> emilie, not unless you want newer software
[01:39] <ssam> benjamin_L, /dev/sda is the usually point for usb drives
[01:39] <LinuxJones> emilie, if everything is working ok you don't have to
[01:39] <Benjamin_L> "fdisk -l /dev/sda" does nothing, and yes, it should be sda1 but nothing is there
[01:40] <ssam> emilie, probably for evince, or you could try gdpf (i think that is in the warty universe)
[01:40] <ssam> benjamin_L, warty or hoary?
[01:40] <Benjamin_L> breezy ^^
[01:40] <Benjamin_L> mainly hoary
[01:41] <Benjamin_L> maybe the udev update screwed things up
[01:41] <emilie> ssam> I couldn't apt-get either one...
[01:41] <ssam> benjamin_L, oh, stuff may have broken, you could try the dev mailinglist/forum
[01:41] <ssam> emilie, do you have the universe enabled
[01:41] <emilie> ssam> ahh but gpdf worked...
[01:41] <Benjamin_L> I'll take a look in the mailing lists, but irc is my main "question area" ^^
[01:42] <emilie> ssam> made a spellingerror
[01:42] <jhaig> Would people recommend using Ubuntu on a server?  I would use plain Debian otherwise.
[01:43] <ssam> benjamin_L, yes, but if the right people arn't in the irc room at the moment, then they wont see the message, mailinglist and forums will get noticed eventually
[01:43] <Benjamin_L> sure
[01:43] <ssam> benjamin_L, is there a dev irc room? #ubuntu-dev ?
[01:44] <LinuxJones> ssam, #ubuntu-devel
[01:44] <bet0x> the people here never sleep ? :p
[01:44] <emilie> ssam> gpdf seems to have the same problem...
[01:44] <Benjamin_L> ssam, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27286 here we go :(
[01:45] <Benjamin_L> i know i should have kept hoary
[01:45] <LinuxJones> Benjamin_L, your having problems with Breezy ?
[01:45] <jsgotangco> he should have problems with it
[01:45] <ssam> emilie, can you print anything? like a test page in the print preference panel
[01:45] <Benjamin_L> LinuxJones, yep, just take a look at the forum thread
[01:46] <jsgotangco> its bound to break anytime
[01:46] <emilie> ssam> Yes it is only PDF that's a problem...
[01:46] <Benjamin_L> jsgotangco, almost never had problems with "pre-hoary"
[01:47] <jsgotangco> Benjamin_L hoary broked a couple of times
[01:47] <ssam> emilie, could you be missing something like ghostscript?
[01:47] <emilie> ssam> maybe
[01:47] <Benjamin_L> guess I'll have to wait :)
[01:47] <emilie> ssam> but then I would not be able to print at all would I?
[01:48] <ssam> emilie, i am not sure about how the print system works
[01:48] <emilie> ssam> ok
[01:48] <ssam> emilie, if you ergently need to print a pdf, try opening it in gimp
[01:48] <bet0x> IRC is a global forum where people of all creeds, colors, and religions can come together and make fun of slow witted people mercilessly.......
[01:49] <Burgundavia> bet0x, not on #ubuntu
[01:49] <ssam> emilie, set a the dpi to 300 or more, and set strong anti-aliasing
[01:49] <bet0x> =)
[01:49] <jme> how do I change the default media player from xine to totem?
[01:49] <Havok_> hi guys
[01:49] <ssam> emilie, then you'll get a large high res bitmap that gimp can print
[01:49] <Havok_> anyone got xdamage and xcomposite to work with XFCE?
[01:50] <pisuke> hi. I get no sound with mms:// files in totem-xine, all plugins installed. any ideas?
[01:50] <ssam> havok_, no but i got drop shadows in gnome
[01:50] <Havok_> ssam: are they hardware accelerated?
[01:51] <Havok_> just wondering about the capabilities of the stock x.org package in ubuntu
[01:51] <ssam> havok_, yes, i have an ati radeon, with the open source drivers#
[01:51] <emilie> ssam> It's not very urgent... It's rather something I want to fix permanently...
[01:51] <Havok_> ssam: cool, I have a radeon as well and was about to build the drivers
[01:52] <Benjamin_L> is there a way to apt-get older packages, something like --force ?
[01:52] <Havok_> I was planning on using the ATI ones though, but maybe I will try the open source ones
[01:52] <ssam> havok_, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DropShadows
[01:52] <emilie> ssam> The printer recieves the message to print, but only prints rubish...
[01:53] <ssam> emilie, i am affraid that is beyond me
[01:53] <ikaro> mojn
[01:54] <Sionide> #  Customer: "How much do Windows cost?"
[01:54] <Sionide> # Tech Support: "Windows costs about $100."
[01:54] <Sionide> # Customer: "Oh, that's kind of expensive. Can I buy just one window?"
[01:54] <emilie> ssam> ok... Thanx anyway
[01:54] <Havok_> ssam: thanks for the link, do you find the radeon drivers slow?
[01:55] <emilie> i have trouble printing PDF files. Anyone knows howto?
[01:55] <ssam> havok_, i use powerpc (apple mac), so i cant use the biary drivers, but the os ones seem fine
[01:56] <Havok_> ssam: ok thanks for the help
[01:57] <emilie> i cannot print pdf from either gpdf nor xpdf. Please help me
[01:57] <Havok_> emilie: what printer do you have?
[01:57] <emilie> havok> HP laserjet 5l
[01:58] <Havok_> emilie: can you print pictures etc from other applications, or just text
[01:58] <xploda> hej
[01:58] <emilie> Havok_> Actually havn't tried it Just a minute
[01:59] <ssam> emilie, have you searched the forums
[02:00] <emilie> ssam> yes
[02:00] <jhaig> (Try again - didn't get an answer before, or missed it)  Would people recommend using Ubuntu on a server?  I would use plain Debian otherwise.
[02:01] <emilie> ssam: there seems to be a bug of some sort, but I couldn't find any solutions
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> jhaig. use debian
[02:01] <thenuke> jhaig: well I like to use ubuntu as a server
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> we tried ubuntu as a server and we desided to just move it to debian
[02:02] <jhaig> I get the impression that Ubuntu is mainly targetted at the desktop.  That's why I ask.
[02:02] <Echylo> ah fazer is gone?
[02:03] <tbird> morning all
[02:05] <phanter> hello there. I just removed skype because it would not work. who is willing to help me trying it to get to work again ?
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> phanter. what was it doing?
[02:05] <ssam> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/view?searchterm=skype
[02:06] <phanter> first i got it that fat that i could hear it ringing. than I could not speak or hear in a phonecall. After a reinstallation It is not able to give any sound
[02:07] <emilie> Havok_: Tried printing other picture... The printer freaks out completely... Print naked pages... It's disgusting
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> i hav had problesm too
[02:07] <phanter> euh yes. i did install skype via the standard procedure but that does not work
[02:08] <Havok_> emilie: do you know what driver you are using?
[02:09] <Havok_> if you are using the ljet5 try the ljet4 instead
[02:10] <phanter> I got skype totally working one time, but that ment that I had to close some sound drivers before I could make or receive a call and afterards relaod those drivers again. That was not a very nice way of working with skype
[02:12] <emilie> Havok_: I'll try that
[02:15] <davix> who told me before about the call of duty installation?
[02:16] <nydust> how do i make a file writeablel?
[02:16] <nydust> chmod ????
[02:17] <Pluk> chmod +x file
[02:17] <emilie> Havok_: I already have the ljet4 as it turns out
[02:18] <ssam> nydust, go to the permissions tab on a files properties
[02:20] <Pluk> great just created a desktopmenu on xfce
[02:21] <nydust> ssam, from consol,
[02:21] <nydust> Pluk, what with an dir?
[02:22] <reikd_> hi
[02:22] <ssam> nydust, thats from nautilus
[02:22] <Pluk> nydust, the same
[02:24] <xfs> Hello! Anyone knowing how to get the unichrome-drivers to work on a aspire-laptop?
[02:24] <ssam> nydust, from terminal, chmod WHO+WHAT FILE, where who is 'u' for owner, 'g' for group, 'o' for other. WHAT is 'r' for read, 'w' for write, and 'x' for execute(run)
[02:25] <Havok_> emilie: what happens if you open up a console and type "echo hello | lp"
[02:25] <megamind> hi again ... anybody willing to help me on some basics of ubuntoo ... plz
[02:26] <abloylas> ?
[02:26] <diaoune> Hi. Any PPC Ubuntu users have a working Macromedia flash plugin?
[02:26] <lunitik> megamind: if you ask us a question... we'll try to answer  :/
[02:27] <megamind> thanks ... i wan to know i want to configure the smb.conf file .. and i can not login as root ... what do i do ?
[02:27] <lunitik> megamind: most don't appreciate people asking to ask...
[02:27] <jaco^> gibernau has an ubuntu distro on his moto?
[02:27] <ssam> diaoune, i think you are out of luck
[02:27] <jaco^> :)
[02:27] <lunitik> megamind: firstly, you just want to connect to another box? you don't need to touch that file
[02:27] <ssam> diaoune, macromedia dont make a powerpc/linux version
[02:27] <lunitik> megamind: that file is to configure the server functions of samba
[02:28] <MuinainenKoski> o.o anyone know what to do when ubuntu says "invalid compressed format (err=2)" when i've runned the server type of installation from the ubuntu cd and tried to reboot to run it?
[02:28] <diaoune> I saw an option on a gentoo forum using qemu, but i don't know how to get the x86 flash plugin onto my system
[02:28] <mgor> where can i get the standard kernel configuration?
[02:28] <lunitik> megamind: also, for root permissions, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:28] <megamind> yes ... but how else can i set ... users and home directory and etc
[02:28] <diaoune> ssam macromedia sux0rs
[02:28] <ssam> diaoune, you could look at swfdec
[02:29] <emilie> Havok_: request id is LaserJet-5L-31 (1 file(s))
[02:29] <diaoune> ssam, looking :)
[02:29] <lunitik> megamind: you do that at the server... you are setting a server? a workgroup situation is fine for home use...
[02:29] <mgor> heh, nm
[02:29] <ssam> diaoune, or qemu might be possible, but i am not sure if it would play nice with a native firefox
[02:29] <mgor> i'm just so stupid. /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386 maybe? :P
[02:29] <BC-bd> hello
[02:30] <abloylas> Hi! Could somebody help me play asf stream in firefox? What codecs do I need?
[02:30] <jaco^> gibernau is fallen
[02:30] <jaco^> hghghghg
[02:30] <megamind> ok ... but how can i set the home dir and workgroup name and accounts which can access and IP address that are allowed ?
[02:30] <jaco^> rossi is second
[02:30] <lunitik> megamind: you do that when you are sharing the file  :/
[02:30] <emilie> Havok_: What does that meen?
[02:30] <emilie> Havok_: What does that mean?
[02:30] <lunitik> megamind: they don't need a home dir though if a workgroup situation
[02:30] <Havok_> emilie: it doesn't print anything? maybe it should be lpr instead of lp
[02:31] <MuinainenKoski> anyone know what to do when ubuntu says "invalid compressed format (err=2)" when i've runned the server type of installation from the ubuntu cd and tried to reboot to run it? T_T;
[02:31] <BC-bd> I am installing 5.04. i was never asked to enter a http_proxy, thus the installation niow hangs at testing repository.
[02:31] <ntoskrnl> lunitik : i can't play MP3 files in Ubuntu , and when i ever try to run xmms and get freezy
[02:31] <megamind> oh ... then when i try to access tha ubuntoo machine on windows 2000 machine it askes for user and pass
[02:31] <lunitik> ntoskrnl: apt-get install xmms-mp3 ...
[02:31] <ntoskrnl> lunitik : are you sure?!
[02:31] <lunitik> ntoskrnl: or gstreamer0.8-mad for rhythmbox
[02:31] <Pluk> MuinainenKoski, do you have multiple harddisks?
[02:31] <emilie> Havok_:now it prints Hello
[02:32] <lunitik> ntoskrnl: blah... -mad ... it is in universe though
[02:32] <abloylas> to play mp3 on xmms you need to get mpg123
[02:32] <ntoskrnl> lunitik : i can't run xchat nor Gaim (Connecting)
[02:32] <lunitik> abloylas: no
[02:32] <Havok_> emilie: ok, now try "echo hello | a2ps | lpr"
[02:32] <Havok_> emilie:see if it prints garbage or a grey titlebar
[02:32] <lunitik> abloylas: apt-cache show xmms-mad
[02:33] <lunitik> abloylas: technically you need 'libmad0'  :/
[02:33] <ntoskrnl> lunitik i'll try it and i'll comeback
[02:33] <ntoskrnl> brb
[02:33] <abloylas> lutnik: are you saying mpg123 is not the way to go for mp3 on xmms?
[02:34] <emilie> Havok_: It says bash: a2ps: command not foundlpr: stdin is empty, so no job has been sent.
[02:34] <lunitik> abloylas: yes
[02:34] <abloylas> lutnik: works for me.
[02:34] <lunitik> abloylas: I didn't say it wouldn't work... its just not the 'correct' way  :/
[02:34] <Havok_> emilie: you might have to install the a2ps package
[02:35] <abloylas> lutnik: please explain. I'd like to learn.
[02:35] <lunitik> abloylas: libmad0 is a far better decoder than mpg123  :/
[02:35] <emilie> Havok_: can i apt-get it ou think?
[02:35] <MuinainenKoski> Pluk yes i've got 2 hard disks currently, but i didnt even use the other one during install, jsut left it unformatted
[02:35] <Echylo> hmm what is an ebuild file?
[02:35] <Havok_> emilie: yeah, it's in universe IIRC
[02:35] <lunitik> emilie: yes
[02:36] <emilie> Havok_:apt-getting it now
[02:36] <Havok_> emilie: whilst you are installing you should also get the package gs-common
[02:36] <abloylas> lutnik: i seem to have libmad0, but i had to get mpg123 for mp3 to work
[02:36] <Pluk> MuinainenKoski, possibly grub installed wrong on your sys, during boot in grub menu press e on the first entry
[02:36] <Havok_> which includes a tool for converting pdf to a printers postscript format
[02:37] <ssam> you might want to try beep-media-player instead of xmms
[02:37] <emilie> Havok_:All installed
[02:37] <MuinainenKoski> it doesnt boot in grub menu. first it says its loading lilo, then validating bios, once those two are done its "uncompressing linux" and after that it gives me that error :x
[02:37] <SuperCatFrog> hi - does anybody know where i can get kdebindings (or just ruby-qt) from? i dont wanna compile from source because i want upgrading to be just a apt-get dist-upgrade (i haven't even customised the kernel)
[02:38] <Pluk> MuinainenKoski, possibly the entry there states: root            (hd1,x) or somthing wich should be (hd0.x)
[02:38] <lunitik> SuperCatFrog: last I checked, kdebindings is in universe
[02:38] <Pluk> where x is your root partition
[02:38] <SuperCatFrog> lunitik - ok, i'l look thanks
[02:38] <emilie> Havok_: emilie@bryggernet ~ $ echo hello | a2ps | lpr
[02:38] <emilie> [stdin (plain): 1 page on 1 sheet]
[02:38] <emilie> [Total: 1 page on 1 sheet]  sent to the default printer
[02:38] <emilie> lpr: stdin is empty, so no job has been sent.
[02:38] <dave__> hi, just installedubuntu, im a new linux user so dont know much, i downloaded xmms to play my mp3's, which i can see via my windows network, but when i try to ./configure, it says i have no c compiler
[02:39] <Havok_> emilie: maybe "echo hello | a2ps" is enough
[02:39] <Den> Hi
[02:39] <lunitik> dave__: 'apt-get install build-essential'
[02:39] <Den> Hi girls!!!
[02:39] <lunitik> dave__: but why are you compiling xmms?
[02:39] <SuperCatFrog> Package kdebindings is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:39] <SuperCatFrog> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:39] <SuperCatFrog> is only available from another source
[02:39] <justinf> anyone know how to disable tap-to-click on a laptop trackpad in Hoary?
[02:40] <dave__> do i type that ina terninaml window luntik? i dont know how else do i install it, im new, i dont really know what im doing
[02:40] <MuinainenKoski> Pluk: thanks it worked, i had bios set to read hd1 before hd0, silly me ;x
[02:40] <lunitik> SuperCatFrog: *shrug*  ... ask in #kubuntu then... was there last I checked
[02:40] <Echylo> dave__, open a terminal & type "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[02:40] <Pluk> :)
[02:40] <SuperCatFrog> lunitik - ive been asking in there, here and #ruby for days - can you check its definately there now?
[02:40] <lunitik> dave__: type 'apt-get install xmms-mad' ... make sure universe is enabled though...
[02:41] <Echylo> http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:41] <emilie> Havok_: It sends to the printer but the printer goes down... Blinks the errorlight
[02:41] <dave__> xmms-mad or just xmms? universe??
[02:41] <lunitik> SuperCatFrog: in 'days' you haven't figured out how to look yourself?
[02:41] <bet0x> root@ubuntu:~ # shfsmount root@starhome.biz:/home/barrahom /mnt/remote
[02:41] <bet0x><EMAIL_ADDRESS>password:
[02:41] <bet0x> stdin: is not a tty
[02:41] <bet0x> shfsmount: shfs filesystem not supported by the kernel
[02:41] <bet0x> root@ubuntu:~ # mount
[02:41] <bet0x> any use ssh file system here?
[02:42] <bet0x> like a normal file system, but over ssh with fuse..
[02:42] <lunitik> dave__: installing xmms-mad will also install xmms... but give you mp3 support right away
[02:42] <SuperCatFrog> lunitik - yes i have, its not there for me
[02:42] <SuperCatFrog> lunitik - if its there for you, i know my config is wrong
[02:42] <Havok_> emilie: that's wierd, seems like your printer isn't accepting postcript, I thought all the laserjets did
[02:42] <lunitik> dave__: instead of installing xmms first, then xmms-mad when you figure out you need it  ;)
[02:43] <cikilin> is anybody using valknut?
[02:43] <lunitik> SuperCatFrog: I don't care about KDE things... and you seem unable to help yourself... why should I help you when you can't help yourself?
[02:43] <abloylas> Could somebody help me play asf stream in firefox? What codecs do I need?
[02:43] <emilie> havok_: It says so on linuxprinting aswell
[02:43] <dave__> oopsalready typed just xmms oh well guess ill type that next
[02:43] <abloylas> lutnik: thanks, i removed mpg123
[02:43] <phanter> hey i noticed that there are less updates available for ubuntu. Is that really the case or has it to do with my settings
[02:43] <lunitik> abloylas: you're welcome
[02:43] <dave__> thanks for ure help
[02:43] <lunitik> dave__: you know how to enable universe?
[02:43] <dave__> know anything about configuring wifi cards?
[02:43] <dave__> nope what is it?
[02:44] <lunitik> dave__: it is where xmms-mad is...
[02:44] <SuperCatFrog> lunitik - it doesn't matter. ive been googling and asking on irc for days. all you have to do is pretend to install it (surely there's an option to apt-get) or even apt-cache search kdebindings
[02:44] <phanter> i have my wireless working
[02:44] <SuperCatFrog> and just tell me if its there, but its ok, doesn't matter.
[02:44] <justinf> wireless working fine here too
[02:44] <lunitik> dave__: just find the 'deb' line that lists universe at the end
[02:44] <justinf> pcmcia install barfs though when you upgrade to hoary
[02:45] <lunitik> SuperCatFrog: www.apt-get.org
[02:45] <dave__> ?? deb line? wassat?
[02:45] <justinf> the line that starts with deb
[02:45] <dave__> sorry for my ignorance im new to it all
[02:45] <Havok_> emilie: you could try resetting your printer (manually) and sending the pdf file directly
[02:45] <lunitik> dave__: gah... in /etc/apt/sources.list... but maybe you shouldn't be editing that yourself...
[02:46] <justinf> dave - just use the synaptic manager
[02:46] <dave__> lol probably true!
[02:46] <SuperCatFrog> lunitik - just 3.1.0 (too old): http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=kdebindings&submit=Submit&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all
[02:46] <emilie> Havok_:How do I send it directly?
[02:46] <lunitik> dave__: in System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager ... go to Settings > Repository and look for the first listing for 'universe'... make sure it is on
[02:46] <jaco^> breeze is started?
[02:47] <jaco^> i want upgrade to breeze
[02:47] <cikilin> is anybody using valknut?
[02:47] <lunitik> SuperCatFrog: guess you have to compile it then  :/
[02:47] <lunitik> SuperCatFrog: have fun
[02:47] <Echylo> jaco don't :)
[02:47] <SuperCatFrog> thanks anyway lunitik
[02:47] <Havok_> emilie: so if your file is "foo.pdf" then "pdf2ps foo.pdf" to convert it to a ps file, then "lpr foo.ps"
[02:47] <jaco^> sgrunt, let's go ubuntu developers :)
[02:47] <lunitik> jaco^: change 'hoary' to 'breezy' in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:47] <Echylo> jaco it's broken, it'll break your hotpl :)
[02:47] <phanter> hey there, I use Hoary, but i noticed that most of my software has not been updates for more than a week. Are there no updates available?
[02:47] <Echylo> no phanter
[02:47] <ssam> jaco^, are you sure you want to
[02:48] <lunitik> Echylo: it isn't broken if you don't use kernel 2.6.10-5  :/
[02:48] <Echylo> well
[02:48] <Echylo> :p
[02:48] <Echylo> sst
[02:48] <ssam> jaco^, there could be lots of problems
[02:48] <jaco^> ssam i'm not interested to have a stable distro on this pc
[02:48] <jaco^> i like make experiment
[02:48] <ssam> jaco^, ok, just checking
[02:48] <Echylo> just got it broken :)
[02:48] <justinf> lunitik: hoary is on kernel 2.6.10 - maybe thats why my laptop trackpad has gone all funny since i upgraded from warty...
[02:48] <lunitik> Echylo: heh... here, 2.6.10-5 won't even boot though... complains about something to do with not able to load VFS...
[02:48] <jaco^> anyway hoary was stable also in the first stage of development
[02:48] <tevaum> jaco^: ok.. but libc and gcc are'n completely up! take care...
[02:49] <Echylo> lunitik, it booted
[02:49] <lunitik> justinf: hoary uses 2.6.10-4 ... which is perfectly fine... breezy uses 2.6.10-5, which is b0rked
[02:49] <lunitik> Echylo: for you, not for me  :/
[02:49] <Echylo> well that's what I mean with broken ;)
[02:50] <Echylo> it didn't print here, gftp crashed all the time etc
[02:50] <tbird> im using breezy and the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel and i have had no problems
[02:50] <Echylo> not that much errors
[02:50] <Echylo> the 386 works
[02:50] <Echylo> the 686 didn't worked here
[02:50] <lunitik> tbird: that you know of maybe...
[02:50] <justinf> ah ha... must be something else so.  darn - anyone know to disable tap-to-click on a trackpad? its not obvious how to do it in gnome..
[02:50] <dave__> lunitik im the package mananger and i go to setting srepositories and then i see no universe thing?!
[02:50] <emilie> Havok_: It gave me an error while trying to convert
[02:50] <lunitik> Echylo: 386 is what I'm using...
[02:50] <tbird> lunitik, well everything i do works so im happy
[02:50] <abloylas> Could somebody help me play asf stream in firefox? What codecs do I need?
[02:50] <Echylo> tbird, gl :)
[02:51] <emilie> havok_:made the ps anyway though... can't print it...
[02:51] <tbird> breezy really dont have that many major changes from hoary
[02:51] <Echylo> tbird
[02:51] <justinf> abloylas - try searching on synaptic for "asf"
[02:51] <Echylo> it just started
[02:51] <emilie> Havok_:made the ps anyway though... can't print it...
[02:51] <lunitik> Echylo: bah... just click the second entry (first is cdrom) and add 'universe' to the end of the Sections line
[02:51] <Echylo> ?
[02:51] <lunitik> dave__: ^^
[02:52] <lunitik> Echylo: sorry
[02:52] <Echylo> oh :)
[02:52] <abloylas> justinf, nothing relevant there
[02:52] <jazon> good morning
[02:52] <Echylo> gmorning
[02:52] <tbird> well  ill run breezy till it becomes stable or it breaks
[02:52] <lunitik> abloylas: umm... w32codecs doesn't support that?
[02:52] <tbird> whichever comes first
[02:52] <Echylo> and what will you do then tbird?
[02:52] <Echylo> if it breaks
[02:52] <tbird> what would anyone do
[02:52] <tevaum> jaco^: yeap, but gcc3.3 was already ok.. :P
[02:53] <abloylas> lunitik, apparently not. i have that and no cigar
[02:53] <Echylo> I had to reinstall ;)
[02:53] <Echylo> anyway
[02:53] <lunitik> abloylas: heh... I've never even see an asf stream... so can't speak from experience  :(
[02:53] <tbird> you boot up with a gentoo cd (has to be good for something) chmod and fix it
[02:53] <jazon> I have a problem... After reformatting my external USB NTFS drive with a FAT32 filesystem using QTParted, the drive works beautifully with UBUNT.... it does not work at all on anyone's windows machines anymore.... what the heck did I do wrong?
[02:53] <lunitik> abloylas: try the 'all' pack from mplayerhq.hu  though
[02:54] <abloylas> lunitik, i want to play the streams on http://www.webtelek.com/tv.php?
[02:54] <dave__> thanks lunitik its downloading some stuff now is that right?
[02:54] <dade`> hi all
[02:54] <justinf> abloylas - try mplayer and grab all the codecs for it
[02:54] <dade`> who installed ubuntu-ppc hoary on external fw disk ?
[02:55] <Havok_> emilie: it's strange that your printer doesn'taccept the postscript files, can we do one more test
[02:55] <dade`> there's no way, ater partitioning it say it's unable to mount root / partition
[02:55] <lunitik> justinf: mplayer and xine can all play those codecs ... they are not specific  :/
[02:55] <lunitik> justinf: totem-xine fits in better with Ubuntu though... so it is a better choice here
[02:55] <emilie> Havok_:ofcourse
[02:56] <lunitik> justinf: then, for the same reason, I dislike xmms, but many seem to like that too  :/
[02:56] <abloylas> justinf, what mplayer files should i get?
[02:56] <lunitik> abloylas: don't get mplayer
[02:56] <emilie> Havok_: What do you want me to do?
[02:56] <Havok_> emilie: first let's clear the printer queue "cancel -a" then lets try to print a simple page "echo hello | a2ps -o | lpr"
[02:56] <lunitik> abloylas: you already have totem-xine installed?
[02:56] <abloylas> can anybody play the streams on http://www.webtelek.com/tv.php?
[02:57] <abloylas> i have totem-xine
[02:57] <RealKillaz> hey ubuntu!!
[02:57] <jazon> I am using the external drive as a removable drive with UBUNTU - I have an HP m10n Media Center PC.  After making the drive FAT32 however, windows won't 'mount' it
[02:57] <RealKillaz> whuzzup?!?
[02:57] <dave__> right so wifi pcmcia cards, ive got a belkin F5D7010, (broadcom chipset) how do i get that working?
[02:57] <lunitik> abloylas: no... but I'm not using the 'all' pack at mplayerhq.hu ...
[02:57] <emilie> Havok_: lpr: stdin is empty, so no job has been sent.
[02:57] <jazon> ughhhhhh HPm1080n*
[02:57] <lunitik> abloylas: just get that, extract contents, and throw them into /usr/lib/win32 and try to view them again
[02:58] <emilie> Havok_: It complains about arguments too
[02:58] <abloylas> lunitik, should i get the 'all' pack but not mplayer??
[02:58] <lunitik> abloylas: correct...
[02:58] <Havok_> emilie: sorry missed out a dash "echo hello | a2ps -o - | lpr -r"
[02:58] <lunitik> abloylas: w32codecs is the 'essential' pack
[02:59] <abloylas> lunitik, will try that, thanks
[02:59] <abloylas> i have w32codecs already
[02:59] <blueprism> Could someone point me to what i am missing i have installed ubuntu 5.04 and just attempted to build 2.6.10 on my laptop all compile goes without any flaws but when i have added it to lilo and attempt to reboot, and then selecting the new kernel in the lilo prompt it stops at : Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
[03:00] <mishof> Q: how can i make a shell script to be an executable ? (so that if i put it in a /bin folder i will later be able to call it from anywhere) ?
[03:00] <klaas> mishof: Yes you can.
[03:00] <mishof> klaas, how?
[03:00] <klaas> At the first line of your script add: #/bin/bash
[03:00] <mishof> thats it ?
[03:01] <emilie> Havok_: That worked great
[03:01] <justinf> mishof chmod it to make it executable
[03:01] <ssam> mishof, chmod u+x filename.sh
[03:01] <klaas> Or the program that should interpret the script, and chmod 755 yourscript.sh
[03:01] <Havok_> emilie: ah, good, so it's got a nice grey title bar with the filename?
[03:01] <mishof> thanks
[03:02] <lunitik> bluefoxicy: you could have missed many things... kinda hard to help you compiling a kernel from IRC  :/
[03:02] <tombs> hi ppl
[03:02] <emilie> Havok_: Yeah... something like that
[03:02] <klaas> mishof: You might want to put the script in /home/youruser/bin, or /usr/local/bin to keep it separated from other programs.
[03:02] <mishof> klaas, its in /usr/local/bin
[03:02] <lunitik> Havok_: are the famous gnome hacker? or just a fan  :P
[03:02] <Havok_> emilie: then can you find the ps file that was made before and try "lpr -r fo.ps"
[03:03] <eee> are the developers of ubuntu here?
[03:03] <Havok_> lucychili: no not me :) this was my gaming nick for about 10 years though :)
[03:03] <mishof> works, thanks guys :)
[03:03] <lunitik> eee: some are on and off...
[03:03] <Havok_> lunitik: no not me :) this was my gaming nick for about 10 years though :)
[03:03] <lunitik> Havok_: ;)
[03:03] <klaas> mishof: sorry, it has to be: #!/bin/bash
[03:04] <lunitik> eee: what do you need?
[03:04] <eee> nothing special, i just wanted to ask :D
[03:04] <klaas> forgot the exclamation mark.
[03:04] <justinf> eee - we are all developers of ubuntu - including you.
[03:04] <mishof> klaas, it worked anyway :O
[03:04] <Plexys> hi, i'm currently using Ubuntu with gnome but i want to install KDE. how do i do this?
[03:05] <Burgundavia> Plexys, install kubuntu-desktop
[03:05] <lunitik> justinf: strange way to look at it...
[03:05] <eee> bye! cya
[03:05] <emilie> Havok_:nothing so far... Waiting patiently
[03:05] <Plexys> that's all, burgundavia?
[03:05] <lunitik> justinf: filing bugs helps developers... but it hardly qualifies you as one...
[03:05] <klaas> mishof: It's called the shebang, and can be used for allmost any script language. for instance if you have a perl script, you would put in: #!/usr/bin/perl
[03:06] <dave__> just a question, do usb pen drives work under ubuntu and if i plug my camera in, will it work or do i need more packages?
[03:06] <klaas> dave__: have you tried?
[03:06] <lunitik> dave__: they should Just Work (tm)  ... only way to find out is to try though  ;)
[03:06] <Havok_> emilie: I hope at least the data light on the printer is blinking
[03:07] <lunitik> dave__: my digital camera has Just Worked everywhere I've used it though for a while
[03:07] <justinf> Plexys - look at www.kubuntu.org
[03:07] <RealKillaz> guys I hope you can help me.. I want to connect to a windows folder with smbclient but I'm getting this error: samba session setup failed  NT STATUS LOGON FAILURE
[03:07] <dave__> aye just reading that ubuntu guide and trying to install messenger... :) oh good will be trying that one later then
[03:07] <RealKillaz> I shared the folder on the windows box by everyone..
[03:07] <lunitik> dave__: you already have a messenger that supports AIM ICQ Y! MSN and a few others  ;)
[03:08] <RealKillaz> and now I'm checking the files shared on the service with smbclient -L killabeast
[03:08] <klaas> RealKillaz: What's your mount command.
[03:08] <emilie> Havok_: I think it did shortly
[03:08] <RealKillaz> but then I get the error... above
[03:08] <dave__> oh right doh whats it called
[03:08] <RealKillaz> klaas: I'm just using smbclient -L killabeast
[03:08] <lunitik> dave__: Applications > Internet > Gaim Internet Messenger
[03:08] <RealKillaz> to test the service
[03:09] <dave__> as i said im new and a bit dumb to it all
[03:09] <lunitik> dave__: came to the right place for help though  :)
[03:09] <klaas> RealKillaz: Try # mount -t smbfs //yourserver/yourshare /mnt/yourmountpoint -o "username=user,password=pwd,workgroup=whatever,ip=serverip"
[03:10] <MFKR> Gah ~
[03:10] <emilie> Havok_: i just tried again. It did blink but no print...
[03:10] <Havok_> emilie: it's possible that the error in pdf2ps caused it not to print, you could try printing to a file with xpdf to see if that works
[03:10] <klaas> RealKillaz: If it start whining, try: "# apt-get install smbfs" and retry.
[03:10] <MFKR> I'm having a little trouble here.
[03:10] <RealKillaz> klaas: ok
[03:10] <MFKR> Seems like my openGL drivers aren't enable, even though the card and the driver does support it. Any clues on how to make it happen?
[03:11] <dave__> cool it works i like ubuntu, trying to get gentoo working was too hard for me got so far and couldnt get my mouse to work under X
[03:11] <Burgundavia> MFKR, you have an ati. Do you also have nforce2?
[03:11] <MFKR> Yes.
[03:12] <lunitik> dave__: Gentoo is definitly not the place to start your Linux experience... takes you back about 10 years to how you used to have to install  :/
[03:12] <Burgundavia> MFKR, read the thing on binarydriver about the apgart thing
[03:12] <lunitik> dave__: well, not quite as bad as it was back then... but not far off...
[03:12] <klaas> MFKR: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:12] <RealKillaz> klaas: mount data version is not supported..
[03:12] <lunitik> dave__: whoever recommended Gentoo to you, you should personally strangle  ;)
[03:12] <RealKillaz> klaas: is that whinning?
[03:12] <justinf> lunitik - he he ... installed it myself last week... what a pain. interesting though.
[03:12] <Burgundavia> klaas, he has an ati chip
[03:12] <RealKillaz> klaas: ;-)
[03:13] <emilie> Havok_: It actually works!!
[03:13] <klaas> RealKillaz: have you installed smbfs: "# apt-get install smbfs"
[03:13] <MFKR> Burgundavia: What's the URL again? I forgot to bookmark it.
[03:13] <Havok_> emilie: it's printing?
[03:13] <lunitik> justinf: I installed it.. got everything working... decided I wanted to try the unstable branch... one emerge -u world, and the thing died  :(
[03:13] <klaas> Bugundavia: Sorry..
[03:13] <emilie> Havok_: It is printing...!
[03:13] <Burgundavia> MFKR, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo
[03:14] <dave__> it all started with suse 6.0, then mandrake nd other ones but never had the hardware to actually keep it working, needed windows to work on but now have many computers so decided to put linux on my laptop dual booting with win
[03:14] <lunitik> justinf: took about a week... 950 Duron... not fun
[03:14] <MFKR> Thanks.
[03:14] <RealKillaz> klaas: it's working...
[03:14] <RealKillaz> klaas: great!
[03:14] <hua> i have add root passwd , but when i enter root terminal it only need my common usr passwd. i feel it's not safe.
[03:14] <Havok_> emilie: cool, sorry that it was an around-the-world solution :)
[03:14] <justinf> lunitik - errrgh.  i spent 36 hours compiling KDE and got everything working over 3 days. and then i thought - whats the point? so i just installed ubuntu on that box.
[03:14] <RealKillaz> lemme go and read that smbfs thing
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> how do i make a symbolic link?
[03:15] <lunitik> justinf: I still don't understand the 'great platform to learn on' argument though... what does typing 'emerge foo' teach you?
[03:15] <dave__> right so wifi pcmcia cards, ive got a belkin F5D7010, (broadcom chipset) how do i get that working? do i need different packages?
[03:15] <propagandhi> ln -sf
[03:15] <emilie> Havok_: Can I make it easyer for myself in the future somehow?
[03:15] <Burgundavia> Kamping_Kaiser, ln -s from to
[03:15] <andrek> anyone had problems with ubuntu and firewire?
[03:15] <propagandhi> or just ln -s
[03:15] <andrek> oops
[03:15] <dave__> i heard broadcom havent been forthcoming with the driver code
[03:15] <ups> Kamping_Kaiser: ln -s /path/to/target /path/linkname
[03:15] <Havok_> emilie: I don't know enough about ubuntu to say why it doesn't work out of the box, but at least you know it's not a problem with your printer, maybe you can change the driver to a generic postscript driver
[03:15] <zxc> How do I install eterm, I've got in off synaptic but I can't find how to open it?
[03:15] <andrek> i don't know how i made that firewire
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks
[03:15] <andrek> anyone here ever had problems with ubuntu and limewire?
[03:16] <lunitik> andrek: nope... but mainly cuz I don't steal music  ;)
[03:16] <justinf> lunitik - he he... i found that you can follow all the instructions with gentoo... even if you dont have a clue what all the instructions are about... dont understand the great-to-learn-on argument either.
[03:16] <klaas> RealKillaz: You also might want to check out the manpage for smbfs: "# man mount.smbfs"
[03:16] <propagandhi> yeah Limewire is no good on ubuntu
[03:16] <propagandhi> get apollon and the giFT libraries
[03:16] <joh> Hey, anyone know of any graphical password changer for GNOME/Ubuntu ?
[03:17] <csturm> hey guys! did anyone here try to run luminocity?
[03:17] <dave__> also another question am i able to print to a printer attatched to my windows box via my eth conn?
[03:17] <emilie> Havok_: Yeah I'll tjeck it out later though... Have to get on with other business, thanx for supporting.
[03:17] <propagandhi> it can connect to gnutella, kazaa the open napster network thingy etc
[03:17] <Havok_> emilie: I think one problem is that lpr works but lp doesnt, I think that if this problem is solved you would probably be able to print directly (lpr prints directly, whils lp is the print queue)
[03:17] <Havok_> emilie: no problem
[03:17] <darkaudit> propagandhi: I take it you found the FastTrack and Ares plugins on the cerkinfo repository? :)
[03:17] <propagandhi> yeah
[03:17] <propagandhi> just couldnt think of more at the time
[03:17] <Bromius> hey, I have a q re the package manager on a new install.  Asks for password.  no idea what that could be.
[03:18] <klaas> Does anybody have experience with Samsung Yepp devices in ubuntu (or linux general)?
[03:18] <mkulke> hello
[03:18] <klaas> Mine not detected..
[03:18] <justinf> joh -> users and groups , under System -> Administration
[03:19] <klaas> mkulke: Hi
[03:19] <darkaudit> sometimes the searches will overload apollon, and nothing else I click on will be added to the transfer list... I have to quit and restart
[03:19] <Plexys> does anyone know how i can grant myself access to copy files into locked directories?
[03:19] <mkulke> i try to activate apm support but in 5.04, is this possible at all?
[03:19] <mkulke> the apm module doesn't seem to be present
[03:19] <darkaudit> Plexys: how 'bout sudo nautilus
[03:20] <Plexys> o, i see. thank you darkaudit
[03:20] <klaas> mkulke: I'm not experienced with apm, doesn't acpi serve the same purposes?
[03:21] <jaco^> a graphical tool to import fonts?
[03:21] <mkulke> klaas: not really, acpi is buggy as hell and won't do anything on this machine
[03:21] <dave__> also another question am i able to print to a printer attatched to my windows box via my eth conn?
[03:22] <mkulke> i had suse installed before and apm worked quite well
[03:22] <mkulke> now i even lack information about how much the battery is charged :/
[03:22] <lunitik> jaco^: drag them to fonts:// in nautilus
[03:22] <\sh> dave__: try cups :)
[03:22] <Bromius> also, is there anything like the old Xconfigurator command?  My mouse is not working, was wondering how to force it to look for it.
[03:23] <mkulke> running apmd says "No APM support in kernel"
[03:23] <hua> need i install a antivirus soft in ubuntu?
[03:23] <jaco^> tnks lunitik
[03:23] <lunitik> hua: not really
[03:23] <klaas> mkulke: I haven't had any problems with acpi, just: "# modprobe battery"
[03:24] <dave__> oh what the hibernate thing instead of shutting down i click that but the laptop remains on, how do i 'resume' from that?
[03:24] <eruin> bluefish: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15: undefined symbol: _Znwj   <--- what package should a bug like this be submitted to?
[03:24] <boniato> hello, i needed to reinstall wxp for other users of my computer, and it overwrites the grub. How can i restore it_ i tried with grub-install, but looks like it can't change mbr, only disks partitions
[03:24] <GNAM> is there a repository with blefish?
[03:25] <GNAM> blue
[03:25] <lunitik> eruin: umm... aspell?
[03:25] <boniato> GNAM, sudo apt-get install bluefish
[03:25] <Plexys> how do i run the elaborate version of nautilus from the command line?
[03:25] <lunitik> GNAM: it is in universe
[03:25] <lunitik> Plexys: the elaborate version?
[03:26] <GNAM> uhm
[03:26] <Plexys> lunitik: never mind, it was nautilus --browser
[03:26] <boniato> how can i reinstall grub in mbr?
[03:26] <lunitik> Plexys: ha
[03:27] <elcu> GNAM: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[03:27] <tbird> yeah and if ya wont to run nautilus from fluxbox or another wm or de you do nautilus --no-desktop
[03:27] <klaas> boniato: grub-install /dev/hda
[03:27] <boniato> ok, thx
[03:27] <klaas> boniato: or maybe "# dpkg-reconfigure grub"
[03:27] <InitMass> anyone using nicotine?
[03:27] <InitMass> nicotine the soulseek client
[03:28] <klaas> boniato: Check out the manpage first..
[03:28] <vanQ> Hello
[03:28] <boniato> klass, i checked grub-install, but i wasn't able to find how to install it in the grub
[03:28] <boniato> maybe what you say: /dev/hda
[03:29] <vanQ> Where are all the operators? =(
[03:29] <hua> lunitik: thanks. i used to install antivirus firstly after install win-system, is it enough safe without it in linux?
[03:29] <GNAM> ok I found bluefish ;)
[03:29] <Plexys> how come i can't paste my windows .ttf fonts into fonts: ?
[03:29] <klaas> boniato: You can also enter the grub shell: "# grub"
[03:29] <vanQ> Excuse me, but may I ask you a question? Which do you prefer :  Gnome or KDE?
[03:30] <klaas> boniato: then enter "root (hd0,0)" substitute with the target disk.
[03:30] <klaas> biniato: setup (hd0)
[03:31] <boniato> i'll try it, thx
[03:31] <lunitik> vanQ: if you have to ask, you should use GNOME
[03:31] <elcu> boniato: http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation
[03:32] <LycoN> Hey
[03:32] <boniato> thanks again :)
[03:32] <LycoN> How can i resize my linux partition and install windows xp?
[03:33] <LycoN> on the same harddrive
[03:33] <lunitik> LycoN: parted
[03:33] <vanQ> lunitik :  I have never used Linux before... but I am not fond of Microsoft or its products, so I'd like to experiment Linux software sometime... the only question remains:  Which distribution and which graphical interface?
[03:33] <vanQ> :)
[03:33] <killeroner> comment dpaquet les paquet install ?
[03:33] <elcu> LycoN: qparted, partition magic clone.
[03:33] <killeroner> qq1 sait je viens d'installer
[03:33] <lunitik> vanQ: install Ubuntu
[03:33] <killeroner> la ubunut
[03:33] <LycoN> qparted?
[03:33] <blueprism> Is there any place where there would be a nice guide to setup xorg with window managers
[03:33] <LycoN> ok
[03:33] <blueprism> ?
[03:33] <ups> vanQ: you can try ubuntu with the default GNOME
[03:33] <vanQ> I know nothing of Linux so far, so I appologize for my lack of knowledge
[03:33] <vanQ> Thank you.
[03:33] <lunitik> LycoN: no... gparted would be a better choice
[03:34] <LycoN> ok
[03:34] <killeroner> I want install emule
[03:34] <killeroner> but i don't know howw you do
[03:34] <lunitik> elcu: don't recommend qt apps in my presence... thanks  :P
[03:34] <GNAM> no, kate is better than bluefish
[03:34] <killeroner> ya t'il des franais ?
[03:34] <ssam> if you install a new window manager with apt or synaptic, it will be added to your session menu in the login screen
[03:34] <LycoN> lunitik: is it easy to use?
[03:34] <lunitik> LycoN: I think so, yes
[03:35] <elcu> lunitik: i'm a relative noob, what's so bad about them?
[03:35] <ssam> is kate any better than gedit?
[03:35] <killeroner> can you help me?
[03:35] <exalted> hi there
[03:35] <killeroner> poeple can i help me?
[03:35] <exalted> What id i remove "ubuntu-desktop" package?
[03:35] <exalted> id 0 if
[03:35] <ssam> whats up killeroner
[03:36] <demha-x86_64> hey guys
[03:36] <elcu> exalted: what are you trying to do?
[03:36] <GNAM> yes ssam
[03:36] <lunitik> elcu: take forever to load on a GNOME desktop... look out of place
[03:36] <GNAM> kate is better than gedit
[03:36] <killeroner> i want install emule
[03:36] <killeroner> it's easy?
[03:36] <exalted> elcu, to remove some other packages it obligates me to remove ubuntu-desktop package
[03:36] <ssam> gnam, in what ways
[03:36] <exalted> elcu, so i have to remove i think
[03:36] <GNAM> i'm using ubuntu but i've installed kubuntu-desktop, to have kate
[03:36] <demha-x86_64> anyone know any easy way to pick to show only a specific collumn of output ? e.g ps -aux  and i only want to show the 3rd column ?
[03:36] <killeroner> ssam
[03:36] <killeroner> i have got gnome
[03:36] <lunitik> elcu: gparted and qparted are functionally and visually simular... but gparted is GNOME... so a better choice for Ubuntu users
[03:36] <GNAM> try yourself ;)
[03:37] <GNAM> my english is not so good to explain
[03:37] <GNAM> ;)
[03:37] <elcu> exalted: i don't think there's anything to worry about.  i removed totem-gstreamer for totem-xxine and it prompted me to remove ubuntu-desktop.  i did so.  no problems.
[03:37] <tbird> qtparted is nice too
[03:37] <elcu> lunitik: goodo
[03:37] <ssam> killeroner, i have not used emule, is it a peer 2 peer download thingy
[03:37] <killeroner> i want dpaqueter emule pazquets
[03:37] <exalted> elcu, it says: t is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system
[03:37] <exalted> packages are not desired.  However, it is recommended that you keep
[03:37] <exalted> it installed, because it is used to carry out certain upgrade
[03:37] <exalted> transitions (such as adding new packages to the system).
[03:37] <killeroner> yes ok
[03:37] <killeroner> but i want install aad aware
[03:38] <mishof> is "#" a note in a shell script ?
[03:38] <killeroner> how do they do?
[03:38] <wezzer> it is not needed in linux
[03:38] <lunitik> elcu: not smart... ubuntu-desktop depends totem ... which depends either -gstreamer or -xine... so just apt-get install totem-xine would have been enough, no need to remove ubuntu-desktop, which makes upgrades easier
[03:38] <elcu> exalted: i'm not sure then.
[03:38] <ssam> killeroner, you could try gtk-gnutella
[03:38] <zxc> I just tried to put compositing on and now my ubuntu won't boot and is all screwy. Help :(
[03:38] <exalted> elcu, i think that's a virtual package to hold together all the components of the ubuntu  desktop (gnome in this case), i think this is default, and not obligate..
[03:38] <mishof> Q: whats the symbol to make a comment in a shell script ?
[03:38] <hua> i have a 40g hd , i want to install ubuntu at the end 8g of it , can it?
[03:38] <ssam> mishof, yes # for comments
[03:39] <mishof> ssam, k thanks
[03:39] <lunitik> elcu: the totem-gstreamer dep was an issue of mine during the warty release cycle...
[03:39] <killeroner> what is this?
[03:39] <exalted> lunitik, what do you intend saying "easy updates"?
[03:39] <ssam> killeroner, its a peer to peer downloader for linux, if that is what you want
[03:39] <zxc> how can I remove my settings purely in command line as I won't be able to use gedit
[03:39] <elcu> exalted: i'm running gnome tight now, and i don't have ubuntu-desktop installed.
[03:39] <lunitik> exalted: keeps track of what should be installed etc
[03:39] <elcu> s/tight/right
[03:39] <killeroner> so i do a apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[03:40] <killeroner> and go it's that,
[03:40] <elcu> lunitik: ah, so you recommend i install it again?
[03:40] <ssam> zxc, use nano
[03:40] <zxc> ssam how?
[03:40] <exalted> lunitik, i was thinking that apt-get get rid of these kind of problems, am i right?
[03:40] <lunitik> elcu: if you're using hoary now... yes... shouldn't effect totem-xine though
[03:40] <ssam> zxc is it to change the xorg conf
[03:40] <elcu> lunitik: i'm still running warty
[03:40] <zxc> ssam, yes
[03:41] <ssam> zxc, 'nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[03:41] <zxc> ssam, should i boot in recovery mode?
[03:41] <lunitik> exalted: it tries... but ubuntu-desktop is there to enable us to track what is being released as the next version etc
[03:41] <killeroner> thanks
[03:41] <lunitik> elcu: ouch
[03:41] <exalted> lunitik, let's say if i don't want evolution, it obligates me to remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:41] <dave__> how do i get my pcmcia wifi card working?
[03:41] <elcu> lunitik: come now, using warty is not *that* bad is it?
[03:41] <ssam> zxc, should work from any terminal
[03:41] <lunitik> exalted: like features they think should be included... also, I use debfoster, so it makes it easier to keep a clean system too...
[03:42] <ssam> zxc, sorry you'll need to but 'sudo' on the front
[03:42] <lunitik> elcu: I dislike using old software... I guess if you don't mind that, its not so bad
[03:42] <lunitik> elcu: technically, you will still get updates for a year  :/
[03:42] <zxc> ssam, how do I save in nano?
[03:42] <exalted> lunitik, so this ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package which forms to keep system updated just in the way Ubuntu Team changes it?
[03:42] <klaas> zxc: [CTRL] -[o]
[03:43] <lunitik> exalted: indeed...
[03:43] <elcu> lunitik: i'm only on dial-up so until my Shipit CD arrives, or i can somehow get someone to burn the ISO, i'm happy with Warty.
[03:43] <exalted> lunitik, i mean, if i remove it, my system will be updated without problems, but not in the way team changes it...
[03:43] <ssam> elcu, where do you live
[03:43] <lunitik> elcu: that works... my situation is rather different  ;)
[03:44] <elcu> ssam: Aus.  according to an op i spoke to, i'll be waiting for up to 10 weeks.
[03:44] <lunitik> exalted: correct...
[03:44] <zxc> klaas, it says "Come on, be reasonable"
[03:44] <exalted> lunitik, thx
[03:44] <klaas> zxc: ??
[03:44] <lunitik> exalted: I like a clean system though... so it makes that easier for me  ;)
[03:44] <ssam> elcu, search for cheap linux cds on google, you should find somewhere that will send you cds for cheap
[03:44] <LycoN> lunitik: do i have to unmount first?
[03:44] <zxc> klaas when I hold ctrl- then enter o as line number it says that
[03:44] <klaas> zxc: Oh, sorry, The possible commands are listed at the bottom.
[03:44] <lunitik> LycoN: unmount what?
[03:45] <mkulke> hmm
[03:45] <zxc> klaas, it doesn''t save "save"
[03:45] <elcu> ssam: yeah, i might check out the uni IT club.  i haven't found an australian site offering ubuntu CDs in my googling.
[03:45] <exalted> lunitik, i see, like i said, there are some software that i don't need, so better to remove it instead of keeping all that garbage
[03:45] <ssam> zxc, did you use sudo
[03:45] <zxc> ssam, it's logged me in as root anyway
[03:46] <jazon> could someone please help me with fdisk and make my external hdd readable by windows machines please?  I cannot quite get it figured out
[03:46] <exalted> jazon, is it formatted?
[03:46] <Unipal> Is it possible to download a deb-package and install  it in ubuntu?
[03:46] <ssam> jazon, have tried gparted
[03:46] <elcu> Unipal: yep, use dpkg --install <package_name>
[03:46] <zxc> is "write out" save?
[03:46] <exalted> Unipal, sure
[03:46] <queuetue> Unipal, Yes, man dpkg ( look for --install)
[03:46] <ssam> zxc, probably
[03:46] <klaas> Unipal: Sure: "#dpkg -i package.deb"
[03:47] <GhostNr1> Any one installed freevo on ubuntu?
[03:47] <jazon> exalted, yes it is....fat32.... for a screen image you can look here.... http://juggywill.servebeer.com/fdisk_info    (it should work)
[03:47] <zxc> it says ^0 write out
[03:47] <elcu> Unipal: you might have issues with dependencies though, so if possible always use the repos.
[03:47] <Unipal> thanks all. I'll try that
[03:47] <zxc> so how do I enter this command ssam?
[03:47] <GhostNr1> I have problem with need python 2.3 but 2.4 are installed
[03:47] <jazon> ssam, no.  what is sthat?
[03:47] <ssam> zxc, ^ means crtl
[03:47] <ssam> jazon, its a graphical partitioner
[03:47] <hua> hello, install ubuntu must change MBR?
[03:48] <exalted> jazon, if you say that is formatted as fat32, Win~ OS should see it, i see nothing to change on the Linux based side
[03:48] <elcu> GhostNr1: you might need to install the python-dev package
[03:48] <jazon> ssam, I used qtparted to change it from ntfs to fat32
[03:48] <klaas> hua: unless you use the expert mode.
[03:48] <GhostNr1> elco > how do I do that?
[03:48] <jazon> exalted, did you look at my link?
[03:48] <queuetue> jazon, qparted converted the disk and the dat aon it from NTFS to Fat32?
[03:49] <jazon> queuetue, no.  i moved all the data off, formatted, then put it back
[03:49] <queuetue> jazon, Why didnt you do it in windows?
[03:49] <exalted> jazon, the terminal window says nothing
[03:50] <queuetue> jazon, exalted is right - your screenshot doesn't really say anything at all.
[03:50] <elcu> GhostNr1: sudo apt-get install python-dev
[03:50] <jazon> queuetue, i removed windows.  I only have ubuntu
[03:50] <hua> klaas: you mean if i use expert mode , i can edit mbr by hand, or it never touch mbr if i want. x
[03:50] <queuetue> jazon, Then why do you careif Windows can see the drive?
[03:50] <schasi> Here, i still have windows
[03:50] <Unipal> I tried to install a deb package, but my machine is a AMD64 while the package is i386. since there is no AMD version, I have look further
[03:50] <jazon> queuetue, exalted -  what would be more informative?
[03:51] <queuetue> jazon, fdisk -l ?
[03:51] <exalted> jazon, it would be nice if you give us a list
[03:51] <GhostNr1> elco > but everything is pointing to 2.4.1 and it need a version below 2.4 to install
[03:51] <exalted> jazon, like queuetue said
[03:51] <klaas> hua: You can choose whether you want to install grub or lilo, and whether or not you'd like to overwrite the mbr.
[03:51] <jazon> queuetue, i need it to be able to work on other peoples computers - thus the reason for it being external.... not much good if it only works on my computer....
[03:51] <klaas> hua: If you choose to install a ubuntu-provided bootloader at all.
[03:52] <queuetue> jazon, And what does windows say when you connect it?
[03:52] <vanQ> does anyone here play Blizzard Entertainment -games on Linux and is it difficult to set up?
[03:52] <Unipal> I am looking for a good alternative for midnight commander or Total commander. does somebody know a solution?
[03:52] <exalted> jazon, "sudo fdisk -l"
[03:52] <jazon> unrecognized device, queuetue
[03:52] <jazon> sudo fdisk -l
[03:52] <GhostNr1> it say "Dependenc: python(<2.4) but 2.4.1-0ubunto2 is to be installed
[03:52] <lunitik> Unipal: you don't want to use Midnight Commander though? 'apt-get install mc'
[03:52] <lunitik> Unipal: it is in Universe
[03:53] <elcu> GhostNr1: so you installed python-dev?
[03:53] <Unipal> I use MC, but it it is old and not that user friendly :-[
[03:53] <GhostNr1> yes
[03:53] <queuetue> jazon, you have a windows problem, not  alinux problem, sound slike.
[03:53] <darkstar> yes I agree
[03:54] <jazon> ok, results in #flood
[03:54] <exalted> jazon, if you have nothing to loose on that ext. drive, ii suggest you to reformat it
[03:54] <Unipal> does somebody use Tuc Commander or Gnome commander?
[03:55] <elcu> GhostNr1: i was wrong.  you just need the older python version: http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/SourceDependencies
[03:55] <hua> klaas:If I don't install the ubuntu-bootloader,  can I  boot ubuntu via a floppy? During my installing ubuntu , she never ask me to do a boot floppy.
[03:55] <klaas> hua: You can create a grub boot-floppy, do you have a bootloader installed at this moment?
[03:56] <GhostNr1> elcu > Yes I know that, but how do I make sure it point to 2.3 and not to 2.4.
[03:57] <blueprism> holy crap ubuntu-desktop is a dangerous package to install :X
[03:57] <exalted> bluefoxicy, why is that so?
[03:57] <Echylo> how do you force a cdrom to eject?
[03:57] <elcu> GhostNr1: i'm not quite sure how to downgrade something.  sorry
[03:57] <Echylo> cause it keeps telling me its busy
[03:57] <lunitik> exalted: probably the amount of packages it depends on
[03:57] <exalted> Echylo, "eject"
[03:57] <frank__> right click on the desktop
[03:57] <Echylo> exalted, that doesn't works
[03:57] <GhostNr1> elcu > okej
[03:57] <exalted> lunitik, might be =)
[03:58] <Echylo> exalted, it keeps telling me the device is busy
[03:58] <Echylo> but I need to switch it
[03:58] <hua> klaas: Yes, I have  installed. But I want to install Ubuntu into my another computer which is new than I use now.
[03:58] <lunitik> exalted: depends on about 450MB worth of packages  ;)
[03:58] <elcu> Anyone else know how to downgrade something?
[03:58] <deFrysk> umount /media/cdrom
[03:58] <lunitik> exalted: still... makes administration easier  *shrug(
[03:58] <lunitik> *
[03:58] <deFrysk> then eject
[03:58] <klaas> hua: What runs on that other pc?
[03:58] <exalted> lunitik, =)
[03:58] <jazon> exalted, is this how you want it sent?
[03:58] <Echylo> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[03:58] <Echylo> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[03:58] <Echylo> I need to force it
[03:58] <exalted> Echylo, you can force it phisically
[03:58] <frank__> elcu apt-get install package_name=1.4.5
[03:58] <exalted> =)
[03:59] <Echylo> :)
[03:59] <elcu> GhostNr1: there you go :)
[03:59] <lunitik> Echylo: make sure you aren't accessing it... this includes being in the dir
[03:59] <lunitik> Echylo: then try again
[03:59] <elcu> frank__: thanks.
[03:59] <deFrysk> Echylo, got nautilus opened in the cdrom ?
[03:59] <Echylo> It's accessing it, it's installing something, but I need the second CD
[03:59] <hua> klaas: It's WinXP.
[03:59] <exalted> jazon, i'm not sure if i got the file :)
[03:59] <Echylo> it's asking for it
[03:59] <GhostNr1> elcu > thx, I see
[04:00] <klaas> hua: And what's the problem with installing grub on the mbr? You can boot winxp from grub.
[04:00] <frank__> elcu but you need to have a repository with the version you want
[04:00] <jazon> exalted, do i need port forwarding for dcc to work?
[04:00] <exalted> jazon, no idea
[04:00] <lunitik> jazon: umm... yeah
[04:00] <lunitik> jazon: or open the port on the router  :/
[04:01] <klaas> hua: and if you want it to boot windows by default you just alter the "default" in /boot/grub/menu.lst to the zero-based index of the windows entry, which is probably 4.
[04:01] <jazon> exalted,  see if that setting helped
[04:01] <exalted> jazon, it fails
[04:01] <jazon> ok
[04:01] <jazon> i have to see what port to open
[04:02] <hua> klaas: My computer has a feature, it can recover my data when it goes wrong, but it must do without changing mbr.
[04:02] <lunitik> jazon: if you haven't changed anything on the router... port 80 is likely only port open of router
[04:03] <lunitik> hua: good luck getting boot.ini to find Linux partition
 here -  http://juggywill.servebeer.com/output
[04:03] <exalted> jazon, failed
[04:03] <vanQ> Excuse me ... but I was just wondering :: Does anyone here play Diablo II : Lord of Destruction on Linux, using some emulator, for example Wine... I've seen screenshots, but I just wondered if someone here could help me with the matter
[04:03] <jazon> crazy computer...... :S
[04:04] <DanglyBits> where can i find some new themes for kubuntu?
[04:04] <klaas> hua: Okay, that explains. Maybe i can create a boot-floppy for you, you won't have to install grub, and you could boot from that. I'm not very experienced with creating grub bootfloppies though.
[04:04] <CB201> is anyone out there running xmame?  I have one quick question
[04:04] <exalted> jazon, which drive we're talkin' about?
[04:05] <lunitik> vanQ: http://www.transgaming.com/
[04:05] <jintxo_> CB201, I run it every once in a while :-) I'm no expert but a quick question might be within my possibliities, heh
[04:05] <jazon> exalted, the 160 gig drive
[04:05] <hua> lunitik: need I copy a file into win?
[04:06] <exalted> jazon, sdb?
[04:06] <lunitik> hua: yesh
[04:06] <dave__> are there any tools that run under linux for backing up dvds? cus then i might put ubuntu on my desktop too
[04:06] <lunitik> yeah*
[04:06] <fitheach> hi everybody. does anybody sucessfully use the evolution/OpenOffice.org integration?
[04:06] <CB201> jintxo_: I want to add a few more games to the driver file
[04:06] <jazon> I was told by someone in #linuxhelp that I could makethis work somehow without erasing the data on the drive, but they wouldn't help me past that.  they actually spent about 30 minutes telling me to figure it out for myself instead of helping me with the command....
[04:07] <exalted> jazon, sdb???
[04:07] <CB201> jintxo_: do you know where I can find the directory for drivers?
[04:07] <jazon> exalted, yes.  same as http://juggywill.servebeer.com/fdisk_info
[04:07] <hua> klaas: another question. It's necessry ubuntu install before 8g.
[04:07] <jintxo_> CB201, within the source? I haven't compiled xmame for a loooooong time :-(
[04:08] <exalted> jazon, as you fdisk says this isn't a FAT drive
[04:08] <klaas> hua: I'm not sure, though i don't think so.
[04:08] <hua> lunitik: which file, need I make it?
[04:08] <lunitik> CB201: dpkg -L xmame ... look for things in /usr/lib
[04:08] <jintxo_> CB201, you'recompiling xmame and want to add support for more games? did I get that right?
[04:08] <exalted> jazon, you = your
[04:08] <lunitik> CB201: might be in /lib too... though I doubt it
[04:08] <lunitik> hua: there are faqs, try googling
[04:09] <CB201> jinxto_: well, every xmame resource I can find out there tells me to look in src/drivers/neogeo.c to edit the file containing drivers for ROMs
[04:09] <CB201> jinxto_: but I can't find it
[04:09] <CB201> jinxto_: anywhere
[04:09] <jazon> exalted, but, qtparted reports it as fat32...... but I do agree with you.  If it were, windows should pick it up in a flash
[04:09] <dave__> how do i get my pcmcia wifi card working? its a belkin F5D7010...
[04:10] <jintxo_> CB201, so they mean you need to edit the source file and recompile. that's quite advanced for a quick question, hehe :-)
[04:10] <exalted> jazon, so you now what to do right? i have no idea about qtpartedi but fdisk no lies =)
[04:10] <DanglyBits> is there a way to get limewire on ubuntu?
[04:10] <jazon> dave__, ndiswrapper ubuntu howto on google.  or you can pay $20 and go to driverloader.com
[04:10] <jintxo_> CB201, that file should be within the source package you download from the xmame site
[04:10] <dave__> ta jazon
[04:10] <hua> klaas: I need your grub-boot floppy. thanks.
[04:11] <CB201> jinxto_: well, I've used emulators like this before, and it's not in the actual source file...and I generally shouldn't have to recompile
[04:11] <jintxo_> DanglyBits, you can download it from their page
[04:11] <klaas> hua: creating it as we speak.
[04:11] <jazon> exalted, well, no, I don't know what to do actually.  apparently there is non-destructive command in fdisk to make the drive dos compatible
[04:11] <lunitik> CB201: just out of curiosity, what are you trying to emulate?
[04:11] <jintxo_> CB201, but they're poniting you to a .c (source) file
[04:11] <jazon> dave__, np.  good luck with that.  wifi can be a challenge
[04:11] <lunitik> CB201: if you say snes, I get to slap you  :P
[04:12] <exalted> jazon, no actually with fdisk there's no way to keep your data, and change formatting; if that's what you want to do.
[04:12] <CB201> lunitik: I'm trying to add metal slug 5 to my list of supported games
[04:12] <CB201> lunitik: I use zsnes for snes ROMs mate
[04:12] <lunitik> CB201: :)
[04:12] <astro76> CB201: you absolutely have to recompile to do what you want, the mame team doesn't enable those games for a reason, namely they still are in arcades making money
[04:13] <DanglyBits> jintxo: which version...other (solaris, os/2, linux) ?
[04:13] <CB201> astro76: gah.  well, I've never recompiled xmame before
[04:13] <astro76> lunitik: NeoGeo arcade system
[04:14] <jintxo_> DanglyBits, um... I would think the linux one...
[04:14] <CB201> that's why I need to edit neogeo.c
[04:14] <lunitik> astro76: haha... still not very enlightened  ;)
[04:15] <DanglyBits> jintxo:is there a howto for it anywhere?
[04:15] <CB201> exactly how do I got about recompiling it? I got it from synaptic originally
[04:15] <jintxo_> CB201, compiling xmame is real easy, give it a go. the readme they provide is excellent
[04:15] <vanQ> Wow... I'm really on a good mood now... guess why?
[04:15] <dave__> jazon where do i get ndiswrapper?
[04:15] <elcu> CB201: out of interest, does zsnes work well for you?  i get really slow framerates using any of the OGL modes.
[04:15] <elcu> could it be because i'
[04:15] <vanQ> I made a big decision :  I am downloading  Ubuntu Live CD at the moment...
[04:15] <vanQ> :)
[04:15] <elcu> i'm not running in 16bit?
[04:16] <vanQ> I'm quite happy now ... I've tested only Knoppix with KDE in the past and didn't like it, because it looked too complicated for me
[04:16] <CB201> elcu: that's probably the problem, zsnes works fine for me
[04:16] <vanQ> Hopefully Ubuntu with Gnome is alot more simple
[04:16] <jintxo_> DanglyBits, I don't know. they have an rpm on their site. you could probably convert it with alien and install it (limewire requires java installed though). That's what I did last time I installed it.
[04:16] <CB201> elcu: you might have better luck with snes9x anyway
[04:17] <elcu> CB201: yeah, i can't exactly change my bitdepth on the fly with the fglrx driver.
[04:17] <CB201> DanglyBits: I actually just installed Limewire on ubuntu yesterday.  maybe I could help?
[04:17] <jintxo_> DanglyBits, alien is a program that takes an rpm file and converts it to a .deb so you can install it using dpkg
[04:18] <DanglyBits> CB201:is that what u did?
[04:18] <acidburn> Hey guys...
[04:18] <CB201> DanglyBits: yes. download the *.RPM file from their site, then run alien
[04:19] <acidburn> I am trying to install programs on root on Ubuntu, but it won't let me, because I don't have administrator's access. No one does on my computer, because that is disabled by default. How can I enable it?
[04:19] <CB201> DanglyBits: I think you might need the -i argument to install it as well as change it to a *.deb file
[04:19] <jintxo_> CB201, for thing to recompile xmame is to have the compiler installed (apt-get install build-essentials) and then download their source package, read the README, which tells you what file to edit to your liking and then run "make". that's the gist of it.
[04:19] <jazon> dave__, see the private message i sent you
[04:20] <CB201> jintxo_: okay...I'll give it a shot
[04:20] <CB201> jintxo_: is the compiler already installed with ubuntu?
[04:21] <boniato> hi, i did all the steps required to restore grub in the hd0, but nothing works: when the computer attempts to access to the MBR, appears the message, "LI", and then stops
[04:21] <jintxo_> CB201, build-esentials is a package that gives you the nasic stuff for compiling
[04:21] <boniato> what i did bad?
[04:21] <jintxo_> s/nasic/basic
[04:21] <astro76> acidburn: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:21] <kev0r> Got problem with my proftpd, seems i cannot accept transfers from someone, he keeps getting 425 erro
[04:21] <kev0r> no route to host
[04:22] <hua> lunitik: If I resize my patition, the mbr must be change? thanks.
[04:22] <vanQ> Excuse me
[04:22] <vanQ> I forgot what was the thing you had to do when you put in the cd to change the "language"
[04:22] <vanQ> I mean I live in Finland and I remember that it was something like "lang=fi" or something (keyboard...)
[04:22] <vanQ> Can someone help me? =(
[04:22] <vanQ> Ubuntu Live CD is the subject
[04:23] <boniato>  i did all the steps required to restore grub in the hd0, but nothing works: when the computer attempts to access to the MBR, appears the message, "LI", and then stops. What i did bad?
[04:23] <CB201> jintxo_: okay...sorry for newbie questions, I'm pretty new to Linux and I've never actually compiled anything from source before
[04:23] <jintxo_> CB201, that's fine. I earned a lot trying to compile xmame when I was new to linux. :-)
[04:23] <jintxo_> learned (I wish I would have earned, hehe)
[04:24] <vanQ> heh =)
[04:24] <DanglyBits> CB201:am i going to need java?  if so which flavour?
[04:24] <CB201> DanglyBits: yes, you will need java
[04:25] <tsume_> nobody _needs_ java :)
[04:25] <CB201> DanglyBits: I found a great Ubuntu HOWTO for it the other day, hang on one second
[04:25] <hua> klaas: How do you give me the boot floppy? Is a img or something else?
[04:25] <SeamusLP> CB201:  I think I had to install the official and then set up some symlinks in /usr/bin/
[04:25] <CB201> DanglyBits: have you added multiverse to your repositories?
[04:25] <vnpenguin> hi there, just installed 5.04. The installer never asked me for root password. So now I cant su to root :( Help !
[04:25] <astro76> vnpenguin: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:26] <klaas> I'm creating an image for you.
[04:26] <Xappe> vnpenguin: use sudo instead, there is no root account in ubuntu
[04:26] <jintxo_> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[04:26] <tsume_> I guess the largest problem with ubuntu are the confusing new comers about no root :)
[04:26] <vanQ> hmm
[04:26] <vanQ> That's odd...
[04:26] <vanQ> no root? :O
[04:26] <mishof> How come -> apt-get install mplayer doesnt work ...
[04:27] <tsume_> vanQ: no root :) more secure ;)
[04:27] <vanQ> I know what root means, but that's quite confusing...
[04:27] <vnpenguin> Xappe: so all "root" operations should be used by "sudo command ..." ?
[04:27] <vanQ> umm... but how can you do some big chances if you can't get the root status?
[04:27] <tsume_> vanQ: you use a priveledged program named sudo
[04:27] <mercurus> mishof, mplayer isn't part of the core distribution ... it is legally dubious ... so you need to enable the Marrilat repository
[04:27] <mercurus> see the FAQ, RestrictedFormats
[04:27] <ups> vanQ: remember, sudo does the job of root ;)
[04:27] <Xappe> vnpenguin: yes
[04:27] <dcraven> vanQ, there is root. There is always root. That account is just disabled by default so that I can't ssh into your box and use it.
[04:27] <vnpenguin> Xappe: thnx
[04:27] <Abood> hi all, guys i had just installed the fresh copy of ubuntu on my machine and its installed succsesfully but i have error when i enter the graphical it gives me an error and when i type crtl + alt + f1 its goes well in the shell ?!?!
[04:28] <tbird> apt-get install mplayer-386
[04:28] <mishof> mercurus, i did, i get this: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:28] <mishof>   mplayer-nogui: Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is to be installed
[04:28] <Xappe> vnpenguin: you can get a root shell by using sudo -s
[04:28] <SeamusLP> dcraven:  If that were the reason you could always disable root logins on ssh :P
[04:28] <vnpenguin> Xappe: thnx again for this info :)
[04:28] <tsume_> dcraven: no,... you shouldn't be able to ssh to root in the first place, the root login is disabled by sshd 99.9% of the time
[04:28] <CB201> I think I'm gonna compile with gcc
[04:28] <CB201> hm
[04:28] <tbird> mishof, sudo  apt-get install mplayer-386
[04:28] <dcraven> Alright, alright... I'm trying to help here.. hehe
[04:28] <mercurus> mishof, interesting ... sounds like the repository version has dependencies Ubuntu can't provide ...
[04:29] <tsume_> dcraven: excluding linux distros which have morons behind the developer helms like rh and suse
[04:29] <mercurus> Warty or Hoary ?
[04:29] <mishof> tbird, same results
[04:29] <jintxo_> Abood, you need to reconfigure you're X windows server. there is a command, I tjhink it's "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". run it from the console shell
[04:29] <Abood> hi all, guys i had just installed the fresh copy of ubuntu on my machine and its installed succsesfully but i have error when i enter the graphical it gives me an error and when i type crtl + alt + f1 its goes well in the shell ?!?! any idea or help plzzzz
[04:29] <DanglyBits> CB201:noobie too...how do i do that?
[04:29] <tsume_> dcraven: *bsd have rootlogin in sshd disabled by default, but there is root
[04:29] <hua> dcraven: you mean you can touch my box via ssh.
[04:29] <Manny> hi
[04:29] <Manny> do you know of any netinst-like ubuntu image?
[04:29] <vanQ> mercurus, isn't the newer version always better?  Can of worms. I should just shush.
[04:29] <Abood> jintxo: sure i did it man and also not working :S i tried all the resolutions and same thing :(
[04:30] <lunitik> Manny: you can use Debians sarge image, and point it at the Ubuntu archives
[04:30] <dcraven> hua, no I can't. Don't worry.
[04:30] <lunitik> Manny: they use the same installer  :/
[04:30] <darkstar> yes
[04:30] <jintxo_> Abood, dang. what kind of video card you got?
[04:30] <Manny> nice
[04:30] <CB201> DanglyBits: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:30] <tbird> if i wont to get rig of gnome can i just dpkg -r ubuntu-desktop ?
[04:30] <frank__> I want to copy my whole filesystem / to another partition and boot for there. How do I copy everything?
[04:31] <lunitik> Manny: www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer I think
[04:31] <tbird> i have kubuntu-desktop already
[04:31] <CB201> DanglyBits: to that file, add the following two lines:
[04:31] <darkstar> well?
[04:31] <CB201> DanglyBits: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[04:31] <Abood> jintxo: dude its built in with Dell dimension 2400, its intel 82845G /GE/GL/PE/GV
[04:31] <CB201> DanglyBits: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[04:31] <CB201> then save the file
[04:32] <Manny> lunitik: I know, thanks
[04:32] <CB201> and execute sudo apt-get update
[04:32] <hua> lunitik: I have try install ubuntu after install sarge basesystem. but she told me gpg key error.
[04:32] <SeamusLP> hua:  You have a firewall up?
[04:32] <Manny> I'm trying to create a ppc/pegasos-compatible mkvmlinuz'ed kernel image
[04:32] <jintxo_> Abood, have you tried using it as a standard VESA card? you won't get 3d, but vesa works on a lot of cards
[04:32] <lunitik> hua: just apt-get update  :/
[04:33] <lunitik> hua: it is fetched during that process with apt 0.6.x
[04:33] <factotum> would editing a new apt.sources file to match hoary, and moving my debian sarge apt.source file to source.old and doing an apt-get dist-upgrade, could that succesfully upgrade me from debian sarge to ubuntu hoary?
[04:33] <Abood> jintxo, no i didnt, i will now but on what resolution i can test it ?, i mean what is the best resolution
[04:33] <lunitik> factotum: yes
[04:33] <SeamusLP> factotum:  I think people have done that before
[04:34] <factotum> lunitik: thanks, i thought i heard about that too, thought i would give it a shot
[04:34] <lunitik> factotum: you'd have to configure /etc/sudoers ... and I'd recommend installing 'ubuntu-base' and 'ubuntu-desktop' though
[04:34] <vanQ> Can someone please help me? When my Ubuntu Live CD download completes, I will burn it to a CD... then when I will play it ... what was the command line I must write in order to make the system understand I'm using a finnish keyboard?
[04:34] <jintxo_> Abood, start at 640x480 and then go up from there
[04:34] <vanQ> it was something like   lang=fi    or something
[04:34] <dcraven> factotum, I did just that, but from sid.
[04:34] <jintxo_> gg
[04:34] <factotum> I have about a 25 minute wait to find out :P
[04:34] <dcraven> factotum, I'd upgrade to sid first.
[04:35] <lunitik> factotum: :)  ... Ubuntu's gksu is patched to use sudo though... so yeah...
[04:35] <vnpenguin> when do startx, I got error "/usr/bin/X11/X No such file ..." ?
[04:35] <factotum> alright
[04:35] <Abood> jintxo_, i will try it and i wish to get works brb to switch os's
[04:36] <hua> SeamusLP: glad to see you. what's you mean?
[04:36] <SeamusLP> hua:  Don't worry about it, I was just curious
[04:37] <lunitik> vnpenguin: hmm... 'sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core'
[04:37] <lunitik> vnpenguin: there is no logical reason that isn't there if that package is installed
[04:37] <vnpenguin> lunitik: thnx, will try it now ;)
[04:37] <CB201> Danglybits? you there?
[04:37] <SeamusLP> vnpenguin:  If it's still not working after that just do /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:38] <lunitik> vnpenguin: you'd have to have removed something for that not to be there... it is installed by default
[04:38] <lunitik> SeamusLP: the startx process and the gdm init script are pretty simular  :/
[04:38] <Shufla> hello :)
[04:38] <ogb> CC