[00:00] <b1lly> how do i "run" it?
[00:00] <b1lly> is it just sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload ?
[00:00] <amebix> through the term?
[00:00] <ricorx7> yes
[00:00] <Mrwootwoot> can anyone help me installing gnomenu?
[00:00] <Mrwootwoot> here's what i get
[00:00] <Mrwootwoot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/583582/
[00:01] <Mrwootwoot> using 10.10
[00:01] <thatguyjay> te is that what you were referencing as in "last line"?
[00:01] <tbruff13> netech, hello
[00:01] <ricorx7> Mrwootwoot: did you do "make" first
[00:01] <ricorx7> not enough info to tell what you are doing with make install
[00:02] <specialmoose> question, im running dual monitors with an nvidia card. whenever I launch a program that has a loading screen (openoffice for example) the loading screen is not on the center/center of the screen but at the far end/center of the screen. anyway to fix this/
[00:02] <Mrwootwoot> ricorx7, no i thought make was step 3
[00:02] <thatguyjay> te stop wasting my time if you're just gonna be intentionally redundant
[00:02] <daniel> how do i change my screen resalution
[00:02] <tbruff13> okay anyway what does dpkg do
[00:02] <daniel> ?
[00:02] <ricorx7> do ls on the folder on your desktop and paste it
[00:03] <amebix> anyone have a Samsung I9000 galaxy S?
[00:03] <thatguyjay> te, we estabilished in the very beginning that i was able to connect to VPN just fine, so i think i'd know that by now
[00:03] <netech> tbruff13: what is it you're trying to do?
[00:03] <netech> find the package that provides util-linux-ng?
[00:03] <tbruff13> get the program portablelinux to run
[00:03] <tbruff13> and i need to satisfy dependices
[00:03] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, looks like your file is not on desktop
[00:03] <netech> $ apt-cache search util-linux
[00:03] <Mrwootwoot> but i saved it onto there hiexpo
[00:04] <netech> that gives you a list of packages to install for util--linux
[00:04] <netech> util-linux*
[00:04] <ricorx7> Mrwootwoot: do "ls" on the folder on your desktop
[00:04] <tbruff13> http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux
[00:04] <daniel> how do i change my screen resultion
[00:04] <netech> you can then do $ sudo apt-get install util-linux
[00:04] <thatguyjay> te, you feel like a big man coming in here and insulting novices who politely ask for simple help and only offense being they don't know as much as you?
[00:04] <Mrwootwoot> ricorx7,  what is ls?
[00:04] <Mrwootwoot> sorry i'm new :(
[00:04] <tbruff13> i was told to download source and compile but how do i do this
[00:04] <ricorx7> Mrwootwoot: in console, it will list all files and folders
[00:04] <disappearedng> Hey anyone here can recommend me something like dropbox to keep my music library synced between my laptop and computer (doesn't have to be cloud storage, just automatic syncing) I know I can use rsync but I am pretty sure there are existing solution out there
[00:04] <netech> tbruff13: what's wrong with installing from the provided deb file on that site?
[00:05] <tbruff13> disappearedng, ubuntu one
[00:05] <tbruff13> i get an error
[00:05] <tbruff13> when i try to make a flash drive
[00:05] <netech> what error?
[00:05] <disappearedng> tbruff13: that's cloud though
[00:05] <tbruff13> dont have it anymore
[00:06] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, what is it a tar file
[00:06] <tbruff13> let me see ill install it and run it and wait
[00:06] <thatguyjay> i miss the days when people were actually HELPFUL in here, not simply insulted people who didnt know everything they did lol
[00:06] <disappearedng> did you rtfquestion?
[00:06] <tbruff13> intripid or hearty
[00:06] <tbruff13> netech,
[00:06] <netech> yes?
[00:06] <tbruff13> hearty or intrepid package
[00:07] <te> thatguyjay: Did  you get it yet?
[00:07] <netech> how should I know? it's your operating system
[00:07] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, yeah it's a tar.gz but hold on it's gone lemme download it again
[00:07] <tbruff13> netech, i have 10.10
[00:07] <netech> maverick
[00:07] <tbruff13> yes
[00:07] <tbruff13> there is no maverick
[00:08] <brightspark> netech: the page has no download link for a .deb past jaunty.
[00:08] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, download it to your home folder
[00:08] <thatguyjay> te, screw you,,, and just so you know i'm not even pissed, i dont let low life loosers like yourself get to me lol, but i do still enjoy letting you know what a piece of sh** you kinda people are
[00:08] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, ok let me move it there i just put it onto my desktop
[00:08] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok
[00:08] <tbruff13> hey thatguyjay  dont be mean
[00:08] <rww> !attitude | thatguyjay
[00:09] <en1gma> anyone know if ubuntu works with an old intel cs110 webcam?
[00:09] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, done but i dunno how to do a "ls" on it
[00:09] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, after you have it there right ckick and untar it there
[00:09] <te> thatguyjay: Did you get it yet? Can we help you any further?
[00:09] <en1gma> i never used a webcam in ubuntu so i dont even know how to check if its working
[00:09] <tbruff13> ts, its okay i think your nice
[00:10] <rww> te: best to drop it
[00:10] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, untar = extract?
[00:10] <tbruff13> te
[00:10] <tbruff13> sorry
[00:10] <hiexpo> en1gma, sudo apt-get install cheese
[00:10] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, yes
[00:10]  * thatguyjay slaps te in the face with a fish and then shoves it up his/her ass
[00:10] <tbruff13> anyway how do i get portable linux to work
[00:10] <en1gma> now im scared
[00:10] <en1gma> is there really an app called cheese
[00:10] <Mrwootwoot> k got it hiexpo
[00:10] <hiexpo> en1gma, yes
[00:10] <rww> Anyways, back to Ubuntu support :)
[00:11] <en1gma> ok i got to hook up my lan cord and boot in ubuntu live cd
[00:11] <te> tbruff13: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[00:11] <hiexpo> now open that folder is there a readme or intall file
[00:11] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, do i need to move the gnomenu to the desktop now?
[00:11] <en1gma> do i need to install a driver for that old camera or is it included
[00:11] <EllaRose19> lolllll   http://goo.gl/8n8xj
[00:12] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, no hold on is this something you are tring to install right
[00:12] <Mrwootwoot> yes
[00:12] <tbruff13> te, how im on ubuntu
[00:12] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok one secwhered ya get the file so i can get it and look at it also
[00:12] <lucas-arg> is there a way to make gtk apps use kde theme on kubuntu? ive installed oxygen-molecule but its not working...
[00:13] <Mrwootwoot> https://launchpad.net/gnomenu/
[00:13] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo,
[00:13] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok one sec
[00:13] <Mrwootwoot> thanks hiexpo
[00:13] <tbruff13> te, what program can i run from ubuntu persistance and a fast boot is all i want is that possible because unetbootin doesnt have persistance
[00:14] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok what is it you are trying to do ?
[00:15] <tbruff13> te, hello
[00:15] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, um.. dont kill me....
[00:15] <Mrwootwoot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJpawpvjx8w
[00:16] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, one sec
[00:16] <tbruff13> te, can i use wine to run one of the windows programs
[00:18] <tbruff13> hello how do i make a program running in wine see my flash drive
[00:18] <sedulous> How many gigabytes of disk space would you reserve for a standard ubuntu installation? The user won't store any personal data and will mostly use Firefox to browse the web. 10 GB?
[00:19] <aeon-ltd> sedulous: 12gb incase they want to, or install stuff
[00:19] <sedulous> tbruff13: you can mount your flash drive and use winecfg to add a "drive letter" for it
[00:19] <sedulous> aeon-ltd: if they don't want to, 10 GB is enough?
[00:19] <aeon-ltd> sedulous: should be
[00:19] <Mrwootwoot>  sedulous i was able to install it onto a 2GB thumb drive
[00:19] <sedulous> good good
[00:19] <sedulous> thank you
[00:20] <tbruff13> sedulous how
[00:20] <sedulous> (it's supposed to become a system for guests who just want to use the web)
[00:20] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok before you go any further did you run the commands the video showed   you ?    next open terminal and type sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[00:21] <sedulous> tbruff13: mount it / use it on your linux host, then run winecfg and add a "windows drive", pointing to the path of your flahs drive
[00:21] <sedulous> s/flahs/flash/
[00:21] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, yeah i had followed the instructions all the way up until he said to install gnomenu
[00:21] <Mrwootwoot> but i only got to step 2 on there
[00:22] <tbruff13> sedulous, wait what
[00:22] <tbruff13> lost me i get you a little bit
[00:22] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok do what i said open terminal and paste that command i gave you
[00:22] <Mrwootwoot> processing now
[00:22] <Mrwootwoot> done
[00:23] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok type clear
[00:23] <Mrwootwoot> blank page
[00:23] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, good
[00:23] <tbruff13> ok wine mounted it thanks
[00:24] <hiexpo> mrw ok type cd gnomenu
[00:24] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok type cd gnomenu
[00:25] <Mrwootwoot> bash: cd: gnomenu: No such file or directory hiexpo
[00:25] <hiexpo> is it in your home directory Mrwootwoot
[00:25] <Mrwootwoot> yep
[00:25] <meta_circular> I have a silly question, I'm trying to append to another user's .profile.  I can't seem to do it even when I sudo.  I tried something like this: sudo echo 'hi' >> .profile
[00:25] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, did you extract it
[00:25] <Mrwootwoot> i did
[00:26] <te> tbruff13: You are using 10.10
[00:26] <te> ?
[00:26] <tbruff13> yels
[00:26] <tbruff13> yes
[00:26] <Mrwootwoot> i was about to move it to the desktop but you said to hold on
[00:26] <tbruff13> te, sorry
[00:26] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, try again cd gnomenu
[00:26] <Mrwootwoot> so it's still in home
[00:26] <morph_> hi guys
[00:26] <tbruff13> i am trying to use the windows drive creator in wine
[00:27] <morph_> do u know ho to insert a text in file whit terminal?
[00:27] <Mrwootwoot> same thing hiexpo
[00:27] <tbruff13> how do i format my flash drive to fat32 i see fat but no fat32
[00:27] <tbruff13> te, you there
[00:27] <[thor]> tbruff13: go to #winehq for help with wine
[00:27] <te> tbruff13: Do you have a partition on it?
[00:27] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, hold on it's gone again
[00:28] <tbruff13> te, partition yes
[00:28] <Mrwootwoot> downloading it a 3rd time hiexpo
[00:28] <te> tbruff13: Then use mkfs.vfat and format it.
[00:29] <tbruff13> te, huh
[00:29] <te> tbruff13: But are you sure it's not already fat32?
[00:29] <tbruff13> how do i tell te
[00:29] <te> tbruff13: sudo fdisk -l
[00:29] <Mrwootwoot> wierd... it keeps asking me if i want to overwrite the file but i don't see the file anywhere hiexpo
[00:29] <bastidrazor> meta_circular: sudo and >> will not work.. use something like echo "stuff" | sudo tee -a filename  .. if you need sudo to edit 'filename'
[00:29] <Mrwootwoot> but i extracted it and did cd and it worked
[00:30] <meta_circular> bastidrazor: cool let me try that. thanks
[00:30] <a> hello
[00:30] <xBlueprint> sup
[00:30] <tbruff13> yes it is oops ok ill try and do it now
[00:30] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, open your home folder and see if there is a folder named Mrwootwoot
[00:31] <te> tbruff13: but I do not see anything for 10.10 at https://launchpad.net/~portablelinux/+archive/ppa
[00:31] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, than the tar is there
[00:31] <Guest13050> Is it possible to edit Indicator Applet Session? I want to remove Lock screen button (without disabling it of course)!
[00:31] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, i dont have a mrwootwoot file but in the terminal i got cd to work... i just had to downaload it again
[00:31] <tbruff13> te, ok then is it possible to get persistance with anyother program that is written for linux why is this so hard
[00:32] <Mrwootwoot> kewlguy@kewlguy-GA-MA790XT-UD4P:~/gnomenu$
[00:32] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok so now you cd to dir
[00:32] <Guest13050> o.o
[00:33] <b1lly> whats the cmd line to create a new dir / file?
[00:33] <solid_liq> is anyone else experiencing strange behavior since the latest update to 10.04LTS?  Like, having to enter your password twice in a row to unlock the screen from the screensaver, and gwibber-service using 100% cpu?
[00:34] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot,  cd gnomenu
[00:35] <tbruff13> te, hello
[00:35] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, done
[00:35] <hiexpo> ok in terminal type sudo checkinstall
[00:36] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, in same terminal type sudo checkinstall
[00:36] <Mrwootwoot> Should I create a default set of package docs?  [y]:
[00:36] <hiexpo> y
[00:36] <Mrwootwoot> that's the line that popped up
[00:37] <hiexpo> yes
[00:37] <hiexpo> hit y
[00:37] <Mrwootwoot> says to write a description of the package
[00:37] <lvh> Hello! Is there a way to tell apt-get/aptitude to reinstall a particular packages, recursively including dependencies, even if they are currently installed (with a higher version, and that version is no longer installable)
[00:37] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, just hit enter
[00:37] <lvh> Basically, replace existing packages with highest currently-installable version.
[00:37] <Mrwootwoot> k
[00:38] <Mrwootwoot> do i need to change any values?
[00:38] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, no just hit enter
[00:39] <whizken> how do you get a read only filesystem to act executable even when sudo chmod won't work?
[00:39] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, the new package has been installed and saved
[00:39] <exutux> lvh: sudo apt-get install --reinstall pack_name
[00:39] <tbruff13> programs like startup disk creator
[00:39] <te> tbruff13: I don't see anything for 10.10. You should take it up with the developers. See: https://launchpad.net/~portablelinux
[00:39] <lvh> exutux: No, --reinstall refuses to downgrade.
[00:40] <Mrwootwoot> so now just continue with the youtube video hiexpo ?
[00:40] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok goodnow finish following the guys tutorial it's installed
[00:40] <tbruff13> ok te, how do i compile it
[00:40] <Mrwootwoot> thanks man
[00:40] <tbruff13> from the tarball
[00:40] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, np
[00:40] <vyrus001> what package holds the isohybrid bin?
[00:40] <exutux> lvh: but higher version is on an external repo?
[00:40] <lvh> exutux: Which is broken.
[00:40] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, you can delete that tarball and the folder it creared from yourhome folder also
[00:40] <lvh> And I removed that repo, so apt should be blissfully unaware.
[00:40] <fabio333> a question about dual boot... with ubuntu and win7  and 320gb hd
[00:41] <lvh> Instead of downloading the latest version it knows of now, which is what I want (a downgrade)...
[00:41] <aeon-ltd> fabio333: shoot
[00:41] <fabio333> it it true that the last partition is slower?
[00:42] <exutux> lvh: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get update && and try reinstall ( so but do you have removed and purged that package, befor revoved repo? )
[00:43] <tbruff13> ok the program is running te if i get an error i will see if you can help me
[00:43] <lvh> exutux: Nope, that doesn't work -- that just says it can't find the package to reinstall with -- refuses to downgrade because of it ..
[00:43] <exutux> lvh: ok do you have only removed that package before trying reinstall?
[00:44] <Guest13050> http://i55.tinypic.com/30dfi3m.png I want to remove the lock screen thing or just remove CTRL+ALT+L thing
[00:45] <fabio333> better to have ubuntu at the end of the hdd or at the start?
[00:46] <Guest13050> fabio333: isnt the same?
[00:46] <Guest13050> i just use beginning
[00:46] <mrdeb> how do you switch workspaces with the kyeboard
[00:46] <Guest13050> mrdeb: ctrl+alt+arrow
[00:46] <tbruff13> hey can someone help me with an erreor
[00:46] <tbruff13> error
[00:46] <tbruff13> from portable linux
[00:46] <tbruff13> usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: This msdos-style partition label has no post-MBR gap; embedding won't be possible!.
[00:46] <tbruff13> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[00:46] <tbruff13> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: if you really want blocklists, use --force.
[00:46] <FloodBot3> tbruff13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <Guest13050> !ask | tbruff13
[00:46] <fabio333> hdparm -t /dev/sda gives a better result now...
[00:47] <Guest13050> fabio333: what does that do
[00:47] <Guest13050> oops
[00:47] <Guest13050> checking the -t
[00:48] <lvh> exutux: Nope, haven't done anything to it yet.
[00:48] <lvh> Removed all of them now, seeing what that gives.
[00:48] <fabio333> Guest13050, tell me the result
[00:48] <tbruff13> ok i will try again i am trying to find a way to boot ubuntu from a flash drive quickly with persistance but i cant do it from unetbootin and startup disk creator boots to slowly please help me find a program or make a program called portable linux work in 10.10
[00:48] <Guest13050> fabio333: but you do that without disk activity right? and how long does it take?
[00:49] <fabio333> few seconds
[00:49] <tbruff13> hello
[00:49] <fizyplankton> does anyone know how to get an external graphics card and onboard graphics working at the same time?
[00:49] <needlez> has anyone been able to get pam_tally or pam_tally2 to work correctly?? and if so can you help me setup pam_tally?? and please no links, i've looked through links for like 2 weeks now
[00:49] <tbruff13> ok this is a dependency i need for my program to work can someone tell me how to get this sfdisk from the util-linux-ng package
[00:50] <Guest13050> fabio333: what is a "better result"
[00:50] <mrdeb> are workspaces useful for anything? why ont just minimize things
[00:50] <Guest13050> mrdeb: of course they are
[00:50] <Guest13050> mrdeb: you can have a workspace for study
[00:50] <Guest13050> mrdeb: another one for porn etc
[00:50] <mrdeb> what
[00:51] <Guest13050> (just an example)
[00:51] <fabio333> Guest13050, the higher the better
[00:51] <Guest13050> or for virtual machines
[00:51] <jmwpc> I would think porn would occupy 2 workspaces all by itself.
[00:51] <Guest13050> lol
[00:52] <Guest13050> Is there a way to edit this menu? http://i55.tinypic.com/30dfi3m.png ?
[00:52] <solid_liq> is anyone else experiencing strange behavior since the latest update to 10.04LTS?  Like, having to enter your password twice in a row to unlock the screen from the screensaver, and gwibber-service using 100% cpu?
[00:52] <Guest13050> solid_liq: sudo apt-get remove --purge gwibber
[00:52] <Guest13050> :p
[00:53] <solid_liq> Guest13050, are you sure that won't break something?
[00:53] <Guest13050> solid_liq: it just uninstall gwibber... I did it lol
[00:54] <mrdeb> so what you are saying is that you have 10 workspaces with adult conent
[00:54] <mrdeb> and 1 work space
[00:54] <solid_liq> Guest13050, I know it does that, but gwibber is integrated into the taskbar in ubuntu now
[00:55] <solid_liq> Guest13050, it didn't break anything for you?
[00:55] <Guest13050> solid_liq: or just disable gwibber service from boot
[00:55] <solid_liq> hrm, I'll give it a try, thanks :)
[00:55] <Guest13050> solid_liq: no lol
[00:55] <Guest13050> solid_liq: try sudo rcconf
[00:55] <vyrus001> i have installed syslinux and still to not have the isohybrid application, is it not in syslinux any more?
[00:55] <tbruff13> help
[00:55] <Guest13050> it's quick and easy
[00:55] <Guest13050> !ask | tbruff13
[00:56] <Guest13050> !help | TrevorP
[00:56] <Guest13050> oops
[00:56] <aplund> I have some packages listed as "local or obsolete" such as libplist1 and libusbmuxd1, when I try to remove them they want to remove ubuntu-desktop.  Does anyone know why this might be the case?
[00:56] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: its in util-linux  :without the -ng
[00:57] <bastidrazor> !find sfdisk
[00:57] <tbruff13> k
[00:57] <Guest13050> aplund: it won't do any harm..
[00:57] <aplund> to remove ubuntu-desktop!?!
[00:58] <Guest13050> aplund: because it's not a real package
[00:58] <aplund> hmm
[00:58] <Guest13050> just ignore the warning
[00:58] <aplund> it wants to remove gnome-session and gnome-power-manger and gdm as well
[00:58] <aplund> and a whole lot of other things
[00:58] <Guest13050> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[00:59] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, i get an error
[00:59] <tbruff13> in the portablelinux program
[01:00] <needlez> has anyone been able to get pam_tally or pam_tally2 to work correctly?? and if so can you help me setup pam_tally?? and please no links, i've looked through links for like 2 weeks now
[01:00] <Guest13050> aplund: i dont have ubuntu-desktop installed and everything works
[01:00] <pbear> hi, i have an ubuntu on vmware but i can't log in remotely unless i'm already logged in on the vmware's ubuntu. where is the setting that can let me log in even if the vm isn't logged in?
[01:00] <tbruff13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/583595/
[01:00] <Guest13050> aplund: "This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu desktop system"
[01:00] <tbruff13> thats the error please help
[01:01] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: portablelinux.. as in the OS?
[01:01] <Guest13050> tbruff13: you want to fix grub?
[01:01] <tbruff13> no as in the program
[01:01] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: portablelinux is not a package available in the repositories.
[01:02] <tbruff13> a program to put ubuntu on flash drive with presistence is all i ask for something that boots faster than startup disk creator
[01:02] <tbruff13> portable linux is a program i found
[01:02] <aplund> well.. I'm not sure I want to remove those other packages
[01:02] <Guest13050> aplund: ask bastidrazor he knows it
[01:02] <tbruff13> http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux
[01:02] <tbruff13> there
[01:02] <tbruff13> but there is no 10.10 package so help or find another program please ive been at this for hours
[01:03] <exutux> tbruff13: why you don't use usb-creator?
[01:03] <bastidrazor> aplund: then don't. are the packages creating issues? if not is there a reason to remove them?
[01:03] <aplund> bastidrazor: not really.  They are using some small amount of space on a space limited drive
[01:03] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: did you compile this program for 10.10?
[01:04] <Guest13050> aplund: r u using sudo apt-get remove right
[01:04] <tbruff13> it boots to slow and i dont want to ever install ubuntu i have it on my home laptop i will be using this usb at school unetbootin boots faster but no presistance i want something with a little of both
[01:04] <dMaggot>  76075
[01:04] <aplund> Guest13050: Synaptic
[01:04] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, how do you compile
[01:04] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell tbruff13 about compile
[01:04] <exutux> tbruff13: usb-creator makes persistent live usb...
[01:05] <Guest13050> aplund: remove or remove all?
[01:05] <vyrus001> exutux: do you know why the isohybrid would not be part of syslinux?
[01:05] <vyrus001> ive got it installed but dont have the command
[01:05] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, i know it is alot to ask but please help me compile im sorry but PLEASE ive been at this for an hour and a half
[01:05] <exutux> vyrus001: no, I don't
[01:05] <aplund> Guest13050: Purging to try and reclaim as much space as possible
[01:05] <nwntas> how can i change the font in liferea?
[01:06] <KB1JWQ> tbruff13: What's busted?
[01:06] <Guest13050> aplund: I dont think you can remove that package wait a sec
[01:06] <tbruff13> huh
[01:06] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: that page is a decent guide to compiling.
[01:07] <tbruff13> i know but please i will read the page but if i need you i will call
[01:08] <_antant> Is there any brand of gefore 210 that anyone would recommend over another?
[01:08] <Guest13050> aplund: I dont know why if u remove libusbmuxd1 it tries to uninstall gdm gnome-session etc
[01:08] <Guest13050> they dont depend on it i think
[01:08] <aplund> Guest13050: Hence why I'm here
[01:08] <Guest13050> hm wait
[01:08] <nwntas> can someone tell me how to change the font in liferea? thanks
[01:09] <Guest13050> aplund: check GDM dependecies..
[01:09] <Guest13050> aplund: right click and properties..
[01:09] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, i dont understand this
[01:09] <tbruff13> PLEASE walk me through it im frustrated beyond belief
[01:10] <aplund> Guest13050: Nothing there that suggests why this is breaking
[01:10] <Guest13050> yeah I see .s
[01:10] <Guest13050> tbruff13: what do you want to do exactly?
[01:11] <tbruff13> compile the program at http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux to work with 10.10 please help
[01:11] <tbruff13> walk me through it if you can please
[01:12] <Guest13050> damn
[01:12] <Guest13050> I Need to sleep gl
[01:12] <Gnea> tbruff13: to be fair, it would be better if you went and chilled out for awhile - do something else, then come back when you aren't as frustrated.  You'll only frustrate whoever tries to help you, thus frustrating yourself even further.
[01:12] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: you haven't even remotely tried. the file has a setup.pl script that does it all for you.
[01:13] <yongua> necesito ayuda para la clave canaimita de segundo grado
[01:13] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, i clicked on that but nothing happens and i was just worried about messing something up im sorry
[01:13] <syrinx_> !es | yongua
[01:13] <intelligentfool> can anyone help me out? i'm trying to figure out if my nic went bad or if i can change some config to get my connection working again. "sudo ifconfig -a" doesn't list my physical nic, what else can i try?
[01:13] <nwntas> can someone tell me how to change the font in liferea?
[01:13] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, i will try
[01:13] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: i will not hand hold. read the page on how to untar the tar.gz file then run the setup.py in the directory it creates
[01:14] <te> intelligentfool: lspci
[01:14] <syrinx_> nwntas: theres a #liferea channel, I think
[01:14] <Gnea> tbruff13: perl files don't get clicked on, you need to learn how to use the command line in the terminal. the patience required to help you through it is something I don't have at this time.
[01:15] <yongua> thanks....
[01:15] <syrinx_> no problem
[01:15] <nwntas> syrinx_: i just joined and ask there, seconds before you suggeste it. thanks anyway
[01:15] <syrinx_> :)
[01:16] <futr_vision> I need to acess Ubuntu through Windows 7. Any suggestions?
[01:16] <aplund> ok fixe
[01:16] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, im sorry okay i have tried that nothing happens when i click on it it asks me to run i am sorry you dont want to hand hold but i dont know how to run that setup.py i click and nothing happens does this mean i need a command and if so where can i find that command i am not trying to be mean, but for someone who has tried for an hour with other programs and everything im just a little lost
[01:17] <intelligentfool> Te i dont see my nic listed after viewing lspci..... reseat the nic and on no change, get a new one?
[01:17] <syrinx_> futr_vision: How exactly, do you want to do it
[01:17] <aplund> the problem was that older versions were confusing the system and thinking they were actually newer
[01:17] <tpw_rules> soo, i have this vm but i've forgotten the root password and don't know of any other accounts
[01:17] <syrinx_> intelligentfool: sounds like it
[01:17] <tpw_rules> i don't think i ever set up root anyway
[01:17] <tpw_rules> what to do?
[01:17] <futr_vision> syrinx: Doesn't really matter to me. I'm used to useing LogMeIn for my windows systems.
[01:17] <syrinx_> tpw_rules: if you didn't set the root password then there probably isn't one
[01:17] <tpw_rules> syrinx_: what other accounts should i try?
[01:18] <tbruff13> i really am sorry im only in high school and im trying and i want to learn i plan on making programming my job when i grow up so please just help me this once
[01:18] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: actually.. you don't compile anything. there is an executable in the portablelinux directory created from the tar.gz: click the portablelinux file
[01:18] <intelligentfool> dumb question but a NIC should show up as "Network controller: bla bla bla" on lspci, right?
[01:18] <te> intelligentfool: Yes, it must be broke. Get a new one.
[01:18] <tbruff13> i do and it runs but when i try to create a disk i get an error
[01:18] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: then you should submit a bug  to them
[01:18] <intelligentfool> te: thanks, just wanted to make sure it's not listed as something else.... if i pastebin would someone mind double checking?
[01:19] <pbear> hi, i have an ubuntu on vmware but i can't log in remotely unless i'm already logged in on the vmware's ubuntu. where is the setting that can let me log in even if the vm isn't logged in?
[01:19] <syrinx_> futr_vision: theres a few things you can do, do you want to just access the ubuntu computer from win7, or you want the whole remote desktop experience?
[01:19] <AndChat> My child hit the power off button while 9.10 was updating to 10.04, is there a way to finish install
[01:19] <intelligentfool> heh, nm, no easy way to pastebin a machine with no nic :)
[01:19] <te> intelligentfool: Yes, it should show up as Network Controller. What does ifconfig say?
[01:19] <tbruff13> ok
[01:19] <tpw_rules> is there any way to get a list of users from the login prompt?
[01:19] <syrinx_> tpw_rules: I don't know, the one you created with the installation, I guess
[01:19] <futr_vision> syrinx_:I'd probably want the whole desktop experience.
[01:20] <tpw_rules> i either don't remember what it was or don't remember the password
[01:20] <intelligentfool> te: i get some communication controller and that's abouot it as far as stuff that looks like it might be a nic
[01:20] <dualcore> what is the easiest mail server to run ?
[01:20] <AndChat> Anyone?
[01:20] <mjs> AndChat, can you get to the cli?
[01:20] <Ferris-> ran usb-creater.exe as administrator on windows 7, and it fails to write the bootloader...
[01:20] <AndChat> Cli?
[01:21] <Ferris-> could it be the filesystem? does the usb-creater not know how to format the flashdrive?
[01:21] <mjs> AndChat, command line
[01:21] <intelligentfool> also, my cisco router isn't showing an errors on its side, which makes it weird
[01:21] <te> intelligentfool: What does ifconfig say?
[01:21] <tpw_rules> found it!
[01:21] <te> intelligentfool: Does it give you a section for eth0 or only lo?
[01:21] <syrinx_> futr_vision: You may be able to just enable remote desktop and connect with the RDP program built into windows
[01:21] <intelligentfool> te: ifconfig -a just gives the loopback
[01:22] <syrinx_> if it still has one, anyway
[01:22] <AndChat> Yes, on command line now
[01:22] <bastidrazor> dualcore: postfix
[01:22] <Todd200> Wow ubuntu is so much better than windows
[01:22] <futr_vision> syrinx_: I'm completely new to Ubuntu. Where do I start?
[01:22] <te> intelligentfool: Ok, then I suggest just changing to a new or different network card.
[01:22] <submain> Todd200: did you just install it?
[01:22] <syrinx_> futr_vision: do you have both computers in the same house/office so you can configure both machines?
[01:22] <intelligentfool> any recommendations for nic's if i want to do dot1q or something fancy?
[01:23] <mjs> AndChat, kinda a newb/idiot, so please dont hate me if i lead you astray....sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:23] <futr_vision> syrin_: yes
[01:23] <futr_vision> syrynx_ : yes
[01:23] <Todd200> submain: have had it for about a week now, switched from wubi to removing windows this afternoon
[01:23] <AndChat> Its doin stuff
[01:24] <syrinx_> futr_vision: in Ubuntu, go to System>Preferences>Remote Desktop
[01:24] <AndChat> Is someone having rdp issues
[01:24] <syrinx_> AndChat: He wants to set up RDP between Ubuntu and Win7
[01:24] <AndChat> Use teamviewer
[01:24] <futr_vision> syrnx_: Got it. I have an IP address.
[01:24] <Cpudan80> that doesnt do RDP AndChat
[01:25] <EmuAlert> Is there any way to have the computer to prompt for your password before it boots everything up? Some of my startup applications don't work right because I haven't properly logged in yet and don't automatically correct themselves when I do
[01:25] <Cpudan80> RDP is natively supported (for viewing) in Ubuntu
[01:25] <Cpudan80> !rdp
[01:25] <syrinx_> futr_vision: set it up however you want
[01:25] <dualcore> i tried to setup postfix before but it was really difficult for me.  is there a gui for setting up postfix and managing accounts that doesn't compromise security?
[01:26] <futr_vision> syrnx_:How do I access from Windows 7? Any ideas?
[01:26] <AndChat> Running sudo configure seems to have resumed the instLl
[01:26] <syrinx_> futr_vision: Win7 has a built in Remote Desktop program, it's in Accessories I think
[01:26] <Todd200> Any neat tweaks to speed up ubuntu? (i try to squeeze every bit of speed out if my laptop)
[01:27] <timClicks> can someone help me with my syntax? am trying to get convert to read from stdout
[01:27] <timClicks> pdftoppm meh.pdf | convert -format "jpeg"
[01:27] <intelligentfool> anyone here used openstack?
[01:28] <joeyr> todd200: There's something you can do with firefox to make it faster where you turn on pipelining and up the number of max requests
[01:29] <syrinx_> or use Chromium Todd200 :)
[01:29] <holybit> whats the difference between installing firefox by hand or having Snyaptic handle it?
[01:29] <kevinkonrad> syrinx_: already do, and I put my cache in ram for speed :)
[01:30] <syrinx_> 0_o
[01:30] <kevinkonrad> holybit: don't think there's any, your choice,
[01:31] <holybit> kevinkonrad: i just don't want to wait for them to port 4 to synaptic, but maybe i am missing some reason to use synaptic?
[01:32] <kevinkonrad> syrinx_: my laptop has an i7 and 8gb of ram, Im trying to cache more stiff in ram for speed
[01:32] <zippp> is there anyway to boot ubuntu into a console? Is there an fkey to do that?
[01:32] <syrinx_> thats a heck of a laptop
[01:32] <zippp> I'm stuck on "Checking battery state..."
[01:33] <esco> i'm running ubunut 10.10 through virtual box (first time) and i can't seem to get it to find any wi-fi.  what can i do?
[01:33] <esco> ubuntu*
[01:33] <piercedwater> Does anyone know of a way to search id3 tags from the cli in ubuntu?
[01:33] <kevinkonrad> syrinx_: yes it is, best computer ever
[01:34] <kevinkonrad> esco: it says no access points in range?
[01:34] <shaneo> excuse me but how may i find broken packages on my system?
[01:35] <kevinkonrad> shaneo: sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:35] <esco> kevinkonrad - it seems its not even using my wireless card
[01:35] <shaneo> thank you
[01:35] <esco> im on a macbook pro
[01:35]  * kevinkonrad is not a Mac person O.o
[01:35] <syrinx_> well theres your problem
[01:35] <esco> hmm
[01:36] <kevinkonrad> syrinx_: ?
[01:36] <esco> well thanks anyway kevinkonrad
[01:36] <syrinx_> theres something you have to install to get airport working,forget what it is though
[01:36] <esco> oh
[01:36] <kevinkonrad> ^ has better advice
[01:37] <_antant> I'm getting a GT210. Will it make much difference if I get an asus or an msi one?
[01:37] <syrinx_> esco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook4-1/Maverick#AirPort
[01:37] <kevinkonrad> _antant: msi?
[01:40] <_antant> msi
[01:40] <_antant> yes
[01:40] <esco> thanks syrinx_, but that's still not working
[01:40] <syrinx_> _antant: i'd go with the MSI myself
[01:40] <_antant> cool
[01:40] <_antant> ta
[01:40] <esco> ubuntu isn't finding it
[01:41] <syrinx_> esco: dunno then
[01:41] <joeyr> So yesterday I was trying to make a linux swap partition on my external, and now my whole external is swap. Anyone know of a good resizing tool?
[01:41] <kevinkonrad> esco: you enable the driver?
[01:41] <esco> how?
[01:41] <esco> it's not showing up in the "Additional Drivers" box
[01:42] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: gparted?
[01:43] <esco> nothing shows up in the additional drivers box
[01:43] <heg> esco: I don't think that you can setup wifi in vbox
[01:43] <esco> :(
[01:43] <joeyr> kevinkonrad: its funny because gparted didn't recognize the hd earlier but now it is showing up. I'll try to see if I can resize the partition so that only 5 gigs is swap
[01:44] <mjs> AndChat, is that working out?
[01:44] <edbian> joeyr, 5 gigs is still a very large swap
[01:46] <pbear> how do i ssh into an ubuntu virtual machine if i'm not logged onto it in virtual box?
[01:46] <lallenlowe> !ubottu
[01:46] <joeyr> edbian: It's a 500 gig external and I want to put linux on it.
[01:48] <kevinkonrad> !test
[01:48] <edbian> joeyr, Sure.  But I doubt you'll fill 5Gb.  It doesn't matter how big the drive is. Swap is filled when you use so many apps at once that they don't all fit in your ram.
[01:48]  * syrinx_ just changed his swap to 3gb
[01:48] <kevinkonrad> I disabled my swap
[01:49] <syrinx_> yea?
[01:49] <arielsanflo> alguien habla español
[01:49] <syrinx_> !es | arielsanflo
[01:49] <steelval3> OK i have a quick question regarding ubuntu netbook remix on my toshiba nb205 netbook
[01:49] <joeyr> edbian: 3 gigs good? would too large a swap end up being a bad thing?
[01:50] <studentb> ?
[01:50] <syrinx_> joeyr: no, it just frees up space
[01:50] <steelval3> when ever i start my computer, i have to hold down a key in order to get the computer to boot up
[01:50] <edbian> joeyr, Too big a swap is just a waste of space.  Since you have such a big hdd it hardly matters.  My swap is 1Gb
[01:50] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: how much mach ram does your pc hsve?
[01:50] <te> kevinkonrad: Why did you dissable your swap?
[01:50] <syrinx_> steelval3: so hold down the button...
[01:51] <kevinkonrad> te: bevause i have 8gb of ram
[01:51] <steelval3> haha its annoying i was hoping for a fix
[01:51] <joeyr> edbian: 2048 MB
[01:51] <te> kevinkonrad: Not a good reason.
[01:51] <kevinkonrad> te: how so?
[01:51] <syrinx_> steelval3: you sure it isn't a BIOS setting or something?
[01:51] <joeyr> I meant to rep;y to kevinkonrad oops
[01:52] <steelval3> its like something times out otherwise, i see the hdd light blink when i hold down shift, when i release it, the light stops blinking
[01:52] <ohzie> Is there a way to clear my dns resolver cache? Somewhat equivalent to ipconfig /flushdns ?
[01:52] <edbian> joeyr, that's fine
[01:52] <syrinx_> steelval3: 0_o
[01:53] <Guest54372>  Hi, folks, I want to install Fjalar(which is under Valgrind) into my Unbuntu 10.10(with glibc version 2.12.x), but the tools  only support glibc(2.0~2.10), then I donot know how to solve this? anyone who can provide an help?
[01:54] <steelval3> syrinx:  so no fix that you know of?
[01:54] <kevinkonrad> Seems like bios bug
[01:54] <syrinx_> ^
[01:54] <daniel> hey would some one pm me i have some stupid questions about ubuntu but a few of them im pretty sure there basic knowledge to soemone who has used linux /ubuntu for more then a year
[01:55] <syrinx_> !ask | daniel
[01:55] <pbear> how do i ssh into an ubuntu virtual machine if i'm not logged onto it in virtual box?
[01:55] <steelval3> sorry i'm a complete newb, so how could i fix it if it is a bios bug
[01:56] <daniel> well i just want to understand what gnome is and alterniatives and stuff like that
[01:56] <syrinx_> !gnome
[01:56] <syrinx_> !kde
[01:56] <syrinx_> that should get you started daniel
[01:56] <joeyr> edbian: swap partition is made. Now I'm gonna try to install linux on my hd.
[01:56] <edbian> joeyr, have fun!
[01:57] <daniel> wicth one would be the most user friend like i like gnome but i wanna know if there would be a better one to use maybe one that could give it more of a glossy feel
[01:57] <kevinkonrad> !Xfse
[01:57] <syrinx_> aww
[01:57] <syrinx_> !lxde
[01:57] <kevinkonrad> Whoops
[01:57] <AndChat> Still running I think
[01:57] <steelval3> syrinx:  if its a bios bug, do you have any suggestions?  i'm completely new to ubuntu, i apologize for simple questions
[01:58] <kevinkonrad> !xfce
[01:58] <syrinx_> the bios doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu steelval3
[01:58] <steelval3> gotcha haha
[01:58] <steelval3> alright thanks, i appreciate the help
[01:58] <djsudn> Hey, i'm wondering how I can make a script run before /home is mounted?
[01:58] <kevinkonrad> daniel: KDE is glossy but slower, xfce is rougher but faster
[01:59] <Mrwootwoot> does anyone know how to get a color fading effect on the top and bottom bars?
[02:00] <ohzie> Guest54372: Hey you should change your nick to something more memorable
[02:00] <mjs> daniel, kindof a newb myself, and have only used gnome and kde ...i think gnome is glossier and faster, but kde has some applications that i like better for either the interface or the functionality...fortunately, you can run both...
[02:00] <ohzie> Guest54372: You could make a chroot for the program
[02:00] <djsudn> hey, can someone help me? How can I make a script run before /home is mounted?
[02:00] <daniel> mjs, is it easy as installing it to swicth
[02:00] <ohzie> Guest54372: similar to how we chroot 32 bit programs into systems with 32 bit libraries, you could chroot that program into a faux-system with an older glibc
[02:00] <kevinkonrad> mjs: glossy = pretty, KDE is slower but prettier
[02:01] <daniel> mjs, or do i have to delete gnome first
[02:01] <daniel> is kde that much slower?
[02:01] <ohzie> daniel: Only if you use kwin
[02:01] <kevinkonrad> daniel: nit very much
[02:01] <syrinx_> kde stinks I you ask me, no offense to anyone out there
[02:01] <mjs> dancek, i run gnome, and then install the kde app that i like....(available through the repos)...
[02:01]  * djsudn is offended
[02:01] <syrinx_> lol, sorry
[02:02]  * djsudn slaps syrinx
[02:02] <djsudn> so how can I make a script run before /home is mounted?
[02:02] <mjs> daniel, i've heard tell of installing them both and then choosing at signon, but can't help you, as i've never done it...
[02:02] <te> syrinx_: That's a little over the top.  Please correct this from the partitioning menu" Anybody know how to fix that?
[02:03] <syrinx_> exactly kevinkonrad
[02:03] <mjs> kevinkonrad, subjective, but granted...
[02:03] <bastidrazor> joeyr: you need a partition for /
[02:03] <djsudn> pick the one you want as your linux partition, and for the path, put /
[02:03] <ohzie> mjs daniel: you can install the kubuntu-desktop package and just not switch to KDM from GDM, and then when you log in there's the 'session' menu, or something lke that, and you can switch between kde and gnome.
[02:04] <daniel> ok so jsut install both
[02:04] <joeyr> bastidrazor: So I have my swap file. The rest is unallocated free space. Do I specify the free space?
[02:04] <kevinkonrad> daniel: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <djsudn> How do I make a script run at boot time? Preferably before /home is mounted?
[02:05] <kevinkonrad> What do you want to be your main file system partition (/)?
[02:05] <bastidrazor> joeyr: i don't know your setup. you need a partition for / .. do you know what the root partition is?
[02:05] <te> djsudn: What is your end goal?
[02:05] <te> djsudn: What do you want to accomplish?
[02:06] <mjs> ohzie, thank...your articulateness surpasses mine own...
[02:06] <daniel> with kde will i stil be able to use hot corners or w/e there called?
[02:06] <joeyr> bastidrazor: I don't know what the root partition is. I have my swap and my unallocated free space, and it won't let me install in the unallocated free space
[02:06] <bastidrazor> joeyr: / (root partition) is where the OS is installed.
[02:07] <te> joeyr: You need another partition for /
[02:07] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: tell it to use ext4, and when it says mount location choose /
[02:07] <kevinkonrad> Do this on the unallocated free space
[02:07] <te> joeyr: You can't install anything on free, unpartitioned space.
[02:08] <joeyr> bastidrazor: I was just clicking around and I believe I go to add and choose "/" from the menu. I might just have it :)
[02:08] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: that is correct
[02:09] <joeyr> kevinkonrad: "use as" should I choose "ext4 journaling file system"?
[02:09] <djsudn> te ya there?
[02:10] <te> djsudn: Yea...
[02:10] <joeyr> kevinkonrad: o woops just saw what you said above
[02:10] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: yes, best file system by far
[02:10] <te> djsudn: What is it  you want to accomplish?
[02:11] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: it working?
[02:11] <te> djsudn: If you tell us exactly what you want to do, we might be able to help you figure out how to get it done.
[02:12] <joeyr> kevinkonrad: I'm about to hit the "install now" so I'll let you know in a second :)
[02:13] <jbjohnson> hey all, is one of the differences between server and desktop edition is that you can't access the desktop edition remotely unless you are already logged in?
[02:14] <kevinkonrad> jbjohnson: not sure, server comes no desktop manager /GUI
[02:15] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: it working :)?
[02:15] <joeyr> Thank you guys for your help! It appears to be working. The next thing I'm going to do after this is done is to repurpose a USB drive for "plop linux" so that way it can boot automatically to the hard drive. so stoked...
[02:16] <kevinkonrad> Enjoy :), I gtg
[02:16] <jbjohnson> kevinkonrad: so would the desktop edition could still act as a server?
[02:16] <mjs> have a wonnerful day/night, all...
[02:17] <Todd200> jbjohnson: it could :)
[02:18] <vitorlobo> !Female
[02:18] <jbjohnson> Todd200: if it's a virtual machine, could i still remotely log in, even if i'm not logged in on the virtual machine?
[02:18] <vitorlobo> Female!
[02:18] <dualcore> i have installed and configured postfix, opened port 25, and when i try to send a php mail() i see an active connection on port 25 in firestarter, but then the email never comes through
[02:18] <vitorlobo> female!
[02:18] <vitorlobo> !female
[02:19] <vitorlobo> what's channel ubuntu female?
[02:19] <vitorlobo> hum
[02:19] <vitorlobo> women!
[02:19] <vitorlobo> !women
[02:19] <vitorlobo> oh yeah
[02:19] <vitorlobo> =D
[02:19] <tucemiux> ubuntu women? LoL
[02:19] <ponbiki> My mom loves ubuntu
[02:20] <ponbiki> no lie
[02:20] <tucemiux> is she single? o_O
[02:20] <ponbiki> nah
[02:20] <ponbiki> she is old and married
[02:20] <ponbiki> 58 i think
[02:20] <IdleOne> let's get back to support please
[02:20] <dualcore> my gf's sister uses linux
[02:20] <tucemiux> ahhh she's too old, sorry
[02:20] <ponbiki> ubuntu is for everyone
[02:21] <ponbiki> gentoo etc. mebbe not for the fresh to linux
[02:21] <tucemiux> i got my nieces to use ubuntu, the youngest one went without a hitch, the oldest one took a bit to convince but once she started using her netbook and windows was so slow she started using ubuntu remix only
[02:21] <MrPockets> so, i'm trying to find a command that'll make a firefox link
[02:21] <MrPockets> ideas?
[02:22] <r\wWorld> gentoo is had some of its packages hosed.... so the dev's have a hard time to maintain everything as well
[02:22] <tucemiux> MrPockets,  where do you want the link?
[02:22] <ponbiki> yar
[02:23] <ponbiki> i still like gentoo a lot for servers...never used it for a general desktop os though
[02:23] <Dice-Man> MrPockets: make a firefox link ?
[02:23] <Dice-Man> MrPockets: you mean launch firefox ?
[02:23] <vivid> MrPockets, try reading about the command 'ln'
[02:24] <MrPockets> tucemiux, specifically desktop
[02:24] <MrPockets> but it shouldn't really matter
[02:24] <overclucker> MrPockets: I use gnome to open in my default browser: gnome-open http://google.com
[02:24] <MrPockets> would just ln  work?
[02:24] <ponbiki> ln will make a hard link with out a flag
[02:24] <MrPockets> nah, a dynamic or symbolic link is moreso for directories
[02:24] <ponbiki> iirc
[02:24] <vivid> you said make a link, read about ln to suit your linking needs
[02:24] <dualcore> i have installed and configured postfix, opened port 25, and when i try to send a php mail() i see an active connection on port 25 in firestarter, but then the email never comes through
[02:25] <dualcore> what does +j mean?
[02:25] <IdleOne> dualcore: +j sets a limit of amount of joins:per seconds
[02:25] <ponbiki> join throttling
[02:25] <ponbiki> o
[02:25] <ponbiki> yar
[02:26] <te> MrPockets: If you want an icon for firefox on the desktop or the panel, just right click on firefox's menu option and choose to "Add this launcher to panel"  (or desktop)
[02:27] <mikejf> How do I enable TTys on a customized 10.04 LiveCD?
[02:27] <te> MrPockets: Right click on firefox's menu option and choose to "Add this launcher to desktop"
[02:28] <tolland_> so is everyone putting ubuntu on one big partition? or should i manually add /home /var ?
[02:28]  * MrPockets scrolls up
[02:28] <MrPockets> MrPockets> so, i'm trying to find a command
[02:28] <MrPockets> overclucker, thanks, that should work
[02:29] <memorygap0> hello: i'm installing ubuntu on win xp using virtual box. now there is a option allocate drive space: erase and use the entire space or specify partitions? which one i need to choose
[02:29] <tolland_> memorygap0: as you have presumably already set a size for the virtual disk during creation, I would use the whole space
[02:30] <dualcore> is there a channel for postfix?
[02:30] <bastidrazor> dualcore: #httpd
[02:30] <te> memorygap0: Depends on what you can afford to use for linux. If it is the only drive, you obviously don't want to wipe the whole thing, (unless you're ready to ditch MS Windows altogether).
[02:31] <leppards> Hi everyone.
[02:31] <bastidrazor> dualcore: actually there is a #postfix channel
[02:31] <te> memorygap0: tolland_ has your situation in mind... his advise is probably more correct.
[02:31] <dualcore> oh cool thanks
[02:32] <leppards> had a question regarding a usb wifi device that I am trying to get to work on my installation 10.10 installation.
[02:32] <memorygap0> tolland: if i choose erase and use the entire disk.this option will not erase my os xp. yes i created 8gb for my vm
[02:32] <dualcore> leppards: what is your question
[02:33] <leppards> The device is Ralink 3070 . It gets recognized and clicking on the network icon on the taskbar shows a list of wifi networks as well. but the password does not work
[02:34] <leppards> as in.. i enter it and the password box keeps coming back. It does not show any error message ... are there some logs that I can look up..
[02:35] <leppards> i have tried to blacklist certain devices as suggested in this post .http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1407165
[02:35] <b1lly> is there a way to open a directory in the gui thru cmdline
[02:35] <NSpirit> I wanna install another windows without removing Ubuntu, what should I do??
[02:35] <mikejf> How do I enable TTys on a customized 10.04 LiveCD?
[02:35] <mikejf> How do I enable TTys on a customized 10.04 LiveCD?
[02:36] <te> NSpirit: Just install on the first partition of a drive the computer will boot.
 : ctrl + alt + f1
[02:36] <tolland_> memorygap0: what are you using for the disk for your new instance?
[02:37] <mikejf> NSpirit: All TTYs except 7 for X are disabled by default, and all they have is a flashing cursor in the top-left
[02:37] <tolland_> during the wizard it should have offered you to created a new .vdi file to contain your virtual hard disk, and you should have specified fixed or dynamic and given it a start size
[02:38] <memorygap0> choose dynamic
[02:38] <tolland_> and there should be a file called Whatever.vdi in your virtuals folder
[02:38] <mikejf>  /etc/init/tty*.conf isn't much help, they all show that it should be starting fine
[02:38] <tolland_> so when you choose to use the whole disk in the ubuntu installer, that file gets filled with an ext4 file system
[02:39] <tolland_> not your native OS disk
[02:39] <mikejf> I've messed around with inittab before, but now with upstart I can't figure out how the LiveCD is disabling the extra TTYs
[02:39] <memorygap0> tolland_: thanks
[02:39] <thraspic> question about lxdm:  i need an option to boot to a command prompt rather than an xsession using the lxdm login manager,  can someone direct me to the right config file?
[02:40] <bgb1122> hey all, question.  I installed Chromium in Natty Alpha 3 and selected it as default but some applications still insist on using Firefox to open links. ie Qwibber, Evolution.  How can I fix this so all links open Chromium?
[02:41] <mikejf> bgb1122: ln -s $(which chromium) $(which firefox)
[02:41] <memorygap0> tolland_: now  I know choosing the option "use the entire disk" it only use the size of the vm not the enitre hardisk
[02:42] <tolland_> yes
[02:42] <ajin> read a lot--google---irc, all newbies
[02:43] <leppards> :dualcore can i give you some more information that may help
[02:43] <dualcore> leppards: yes
[02:44] <BlackWeb> Is Anyone familiar with using gimp
[02:45] <bgb1122> mikejf: ln -s chromium-browser firefox ?
[02:45] <StepNjump> what is gimp
[02:45] <leppards> I also tried compiling the module after applying the patch suggested here but the compile failed nonetheless. (http://www.linuxcrew.de/2010/10/11/rt2870-compile-error-under-kubuntu-maverick-10-10/?lang=en)
[02:46] <BlackWeb> Like photoshop but gimp for linux
[02:46] <drc> BlackWeb: irc.gimp.org/#gimp might be a better place to ask GIMP questions
[02:46] <lot49> free and opensource too
[02:46] <BlackWeb> Alright Thanks :)
[02:47] <leppards> dualcore anything specific I can provide ?
[02:50] <ajin> "lol"
[02:53] <searched> hola??
[02:53] <searched> alguien por ahi tengo una dudda
[02:54] <searched> hola??
[02:54] <te> !es | searched
[02:54] <searched> ty guys
[02:54] <ajin> research! how many of you guys experienced gnome-panel disappeared ?
[02:54] <speedrunnerG55> whenever i try to turn on visulasation in rytham bot it crashes
[02:54] <speedrunnerG55> what should i do
[02:55] <ajin> it's a bug
[02:55] <searched> hey guys, my maverick ubuntu doesnt find one of my hd wich is sata any idea?
[02:56] <jnfourteen> im trying to configure and make from source, but a couple of packages i tried to install failed
[02:56] <jnfourteen> i got build-essential
[02:57] <jnfourteen> but still failing
[02:57] <jnfourteen> anyone know what could be the problem?
[02:58] <te> jnfourteen: What package?
[02:58] <te> jnfourteen: Where did it fail?  Any specific errors?
[02:59] <searched> why my ubuntu doesnt  find my sata hd?
[02:59] <te> jnfourteen: pastebin some errors....
[02:59] <NuXeLiTe> searched is it plugged, never got a problem with that
[02:59] <jnfourteen> first i had a glib error
[02:59] <jnfourteen> fixed that
[02:59] <searched> yes it is the bios can find it but ubuntu doesnt
[03:00] <jnfourteen> but then the make fails. i was trying to install bitchx and then i tried to isntall irssi
[03:00] <searched> what can i do? do i need any driver?
[03:00] <jnfourteen> i just use apt-get eventually
[03:00] <jnfourteen> used*
[03:01] <NuXeLiTe> searched, did you just plug it ?
[03:01] <searched> yes i plugged it
[03:01] <xiambax> what file is it that tells my user to open something at login
[03:01] <NuXeLiTe> is linux already installed ?
[03:01] <searched> yes it is
[03:02] <NuXeLiTe> you might have to format the sata driver that you plugged
[03:02] <searched> i installed it in the ide hd
[03:02] <NuXeLiTe> format the new installed driver
[03:02] <NuXeLiTe> and it should work
[03:02] <searched> so i have to format it?
[03:02] <searched> but how? ubuntu doesnt find it
[03:02] <te> jnfourteen: Why not use pre-compiled package?
[03:03] <jnfourteen> yeah i ended up doing that
[03:03] <memorygap0> !bin
[03:03] <jnfourteen> but was wondering why compiling from source was giving me so many issues
[03:03] <te> jnfourteen: Yes, you should use the package manager
[03:04] <phoenixsampras> hello how to compare 2 files are exactly equal??
[03:04] <b1lly> anyone know which "apache" config file, actually controls the directive for the default vhost
[03:05] <te> jnfourteen: There are a number of reasons why you might experience a failure when compiling from source. One is un-resolved dependencies.  You just have to look at the errors for clues.
[03:06] <jnfourteen> alright thanks.  so it's not uncommon to see all these errors? I fix one issue and then it halts somewhere else
[03:06] <jrib> phoenixsampras: use diff
[03:06] <jrib> b1lly: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default (or ask a more specific question)
[03:07] <b1lly> jrib: that's the vhost config file...which is the config file designates that as the default
[03:08] <AnubArack> Is horizontal tearing of video playback a known issue of ATI drivers on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[03:08] <soreau> AnubArack: What card is it?
[03:08] <jrib> b1lly: what do you want to accomplish?
[03:09] <DavidReza> someone knows what if the default kernel with Ubuntu 10.10?
[03:09] <DavidReza> what is*
[03:09] <AnubArack> Radeon 4670 (512 mb)
[03:09] <jrib> DavidReza: 2.6.35
[03:10] <OMGeek> lo
[03:10] <DavidReza> jrib,  really? =S
[03:10] <DavidReza> thank you very much
[03:11] <soreau> AnubArack: I'd expect more problems from fglrx than radeon, despite the fact that it's currently faster for 3D
[03:12] <leppards> hey everyone.. i posted a question about the usb wifi issue (ralink 3070) earlier. can someone please help me. i have tried to follow the steps mentioned in the ubuntuforums threads but have not been able to get the card to connect to a wifi network
[03:12] <jrib> !wifi | leppards
[03:12] <tbruff13> is it possible to make a disk in staratup disk creator not ask you to install and go directly to trying from the Usb stick
[03:13] <tbruff13> hello
[03:13] <AnubArack> soreau, I know, same thought crossed my mind. I also desabled all the advanced featured in the Ati control panel but no change. And apparently I'm not the only one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10586630
[03:13] <speedrunnerG55> help
[03:13] <Ben64> !help | speedrunnerG55
[03:14] <speedrunnerG55> i cant run visualasations in rythembox
[03:14] <[biabia]> is 1GB mem enough to run kubuntu?
[03:14] <rww> [biabia]: yes
[03:14] <prabhu> 1Gb is fine
[03:14] <[biabia]> rww and prabhu thanks :)
[03:14] <Christiannnnn> hi, iam having problems i have pavilion dv2500, and i installed ubuntu, but when i connect usb storage i cant see it on my computer whats wrong ?
[03:15] <mickster04> leppards: did you see !ralink?
[03:15] <soreau> AnubArack: If you remove fglrx and install xorg-edgers, you should get latest bits for the default open radon driver. A newer kernel should help too, so I expect HD cards to be much better supported in Natty
[03:15] <leppards> mickster04 yes I do see ralink as the chipset for some of the manufacturers
[03:16] <mickster04> leppards: i meant the help given when you type !ralink
[03:16] <AnubArack> soreau, I could try that. If I know how
[03:16] <mickster04> leppards: are you sure that chipset is supported
[03:17] <brophat> what is the command to find out what drivers are being used for various hardware?
[03:17] <leppards> i am not certain, but i bought the card off ebay, and the page listed linux as a supported os..
[03:17] <leppards> also lsusb lists the following
[03:17] <soreau> AnubArack: 1) Remove fglrx (sys>admin>additional drivers) 2) Install xorg-edgers repo (with the command: 'sudo apt-get install python-software-properties && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental && sudo apt-get upgrade' )
[03:17] <leppards> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
[03:18] <Christiannnnn> hi, iam having problems i have pavilion dv2500, and i installed ubuntu, but when i connect usb storage i cant see it on my computer whats wrong ?
[03:18] <soreau> AnubArack: This is assuming you haven't installed the driver using the .run file from AMD
[03:18] <ComputerChic> Hi all :)
[03:19] <AnubArack> soreau, nope i installed it when ubuntu prompted me so it's via additional drivers
[03:19] <ajin> hi
[03:19] <ComputerChic> ajin: Hi
[03:19] <soreau> AnubArack: After it's completed, cold boot the machine to completely reset the hardware
[03:19] <fizy[laptop]> how do i configure the openssh-server doohickey to accept a different port? i already have port forwarding set up
[03:20] <AnubArack> soreau, will do. TY. I'll come back with the outcome
[03:20] <bastidrazor> fizy[laptop]: add the new port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config  then restart ssh, sudo service ssh restart
[03:20] <soreau> AnubArack: To revert, use 'sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers'
[03:20] <fizy[laptop]> bastidrazor: and can i do that from ssh?
[03:21] <brophat> anyone know the command to list the drivers that are being used for my various hardware?
[03:21] <AnubArack> soreau, If i want to go back to the close source drivers?
[03:21] <bastidrazor> fizy[laptop]: yes.
[03:21] <leppards> mickster04 not sure what you meant by "type in !ralink". where did you expect me to type !ralink
[03:22] <fizy[laptop]> leppards: like this
[03:22] <fizy[laptop]> !ralink
[03:22] <soreau> AnubArack: Well, there's two parts. Removing the closed source driver means the default radeon driver will be used. But xorg-edgers gives the latest updates to the radeon driver stack
[03:22] <phoenixsampras> how to compare files via GUI? SOS
[03:22] <leppards> on the shell i'm assuming?
[03:23] <arand> phoenixsampras: meld is an option.
[03:23] <fizy[laptop]> leppards: the !ralink is to control the bot in #ubuntu
[03:23] <te> phoenixsampras: In a gui terminal type diff file-1 file-2
[03:23] <fizy[laptop]> !ralink like this leppards
[03:23] <leppards> !ralink
[03:23] <fizy[laptop]> arg
[03:23] <gbear14275> I have a process I don't think I can kill
[03:23] <fizy[laptop]> !ralink
[03:24] <leppards> thanks fizy. apologies for the noob question
[03:24] <te> gbear14275: What process would that be?
[03:24] <fizy[laptop]> leppards: its quite okay
[03:24] <gbear14275> te, it is a gwibber service process.  I tried to kill it to kill a zombie sh process, but now the parent gwibber-service process is zombie too
[03:25] <leppards> got the message "Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)"
[03:25] <te> gbear14275: To kill service use command service stop service-name
[03:26] <gbear14275> te, unrecognized service
[03:26] <gbear14275> te, but the thing is it says the status is zombie
[03:26] <jamiewan> gbear14275, does it show up in top of htop
[03:27] <jamiewan> or*
[03:28] <gbear14275> jamiewan, te, I just killed it by killing the parent gwibber-service... but I'm wondering what I just accidentally killed?
[03:28] <gbear14275> brb, rebooting
[03:28] <jrt4> I just ran glxgears and got XIO fatal io error 11 (Resource not available) and then when I left X, X won't start again. There are no errors that show up in my xorg log that weren't there before ...
[03:28] <te> Guest54372: Sorry  I got it wrong. service service-name stop
[03:29] <jrt4> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and dpkg-reconfigure xorg and neither fixed it
[03:29] <te> gbear14276 Sorry  I got it wrong. service service-name stop
[03:30] <jamiewan> te, he's rebooting i think
[03:30] <te> jamiewan: Yea, I see now. Thanks
[03:32] <phoenixsampras> how to compare to files, 1 file is on a shared network it has terabytes of size, and the other one in my pc ?
[03:32] <ComputerChic> ^slacker^:  That's my dog's name?
[03:32] <ComputerChic> ....*
[03:32] <SwedeMike> Photocopy: md5sum command gives you a checksum of a file, do it on both and compare the checksum
[03:33] <phoenixsampras> hi ComputerChic, alone?
[03:33] <ComputerChic> phoenixsampras: you wish
[03:33] <knightrage> haha.
[03:34] <phoenixsampras> ComputerChic: so you have a problem?
[03:34] <ComputerChic> phoenixsampras: Not at all.
[03:35] <AnubArack> soreau, after i ran that command it gave me an error
[03:35] <soreau> AnubArack: Post it to paste.ubuntu.com
[03:35] <phoenixsampras> ComputerChic: then you have a need of something?
[03:36] <ComputerChic> phoenixsampras: Yes, You to go hide under a rock,
[03:36] <jamiewan> lol
[03:36] <Linuxpwns> No way...hey RICK check it out
[03:36] <phoenixsampras> ComputerChic: im just trying to help you
[03:37] <AnubArack> soreau, I closed the terminal but I know what it said: the ia32-libs-mesa-dri-experimental package is broken
[03:37] <ComputerChic> phoenixsampras: Who said I needed help?
[03:38] <soreau> AnubArack: Can you try removing that package and running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade  ?
[03:38] <phoenixsampras> ComputerChic: your nickname sounds like you need help
[03:38] <AnubArack> soreau, http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/3ts8j88v/SynapticPackageManager_045.png
[03:38] <ComputerChic> Nope
[03:39] <Linuxpwns> AnubArack: Have you tried fixing your broken package using Synaptic Package Manager then going to Edit > Fix Broken Packages?
[03:40] <Photocopy> Today, I partitioned my drive into three. On a mac, I made a ~240gb partition of HFS+, and on ubuntu, i made a 240gb ext4 and a 20 gb fat32.  The fat32 is read/writeable. the ext4 is read only, (read and write by root) and says i cant change the permissions because I'm not the owner. The HFS+ is read only but thats okay cause iirc HFS+ isn't writeable by linux. Wat do?
[03:40] <phoenixsampras> ComputerChic: then you need advise
[03:41] <Photocopy> phoenixsampras; let me give you some spelling advice ;P
[03:41] <AnubArack> Linuxpwns, I just marked it for removal and applied then ran apt-get update/upgrade like soreau suggested
[03:41] <phoenixsampras> Photocopy: yeh, no wonder i dont catch girls lately
[03:41] <Linuxpwns> We are here to help others not gloat about who knows more about what... just remember theres always somebody in the world who knows more about something than you do
[03:42] <Photocopy> phoenixsampras: i've been single for two years! =( We're a little offtpic though. Know anything about my permissions problem?
[03:42] <phoenixsampras> Photocopy: can you recap the problem plz
[03:42] <Linuxpwns> Anub: What happened as a result after trying that?
[03:42] <Photocopy> Today, I partitioned my drive into three. On a mac, I made a ~240gb partition of HFS+, and on ubuntu, i made a 240gb ext4 and a 20 gb fat32.  The fat32 is read/writeable. the ext4 is read only, (read and write by root) and says i cant change the permissions because I'm not the owner. The HFS+ is read only but thats okay cause iirc HFS+ isn't writeable by linux. Wat do?
[03:42] <AnubArack> soreau, Linuxpwns  http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/poc5yct4/anubarack3rdEchalon_046.png
[03:43] <AnubArack> aka same problem
[03:43] <i4ba1_> excuse me all
[03:43] <i4ba1_> how to get computer model number using terminal?
[03:44] <i4ba1_> in windows i can do 'wmic bios get serialnumber'
[03:44] <i4ba1_> can i do in linux?
[03:44] <Photocopy> phoenixsampras: do i need to highlight you with my recap?
[03:44] <Guest84104> how can i encrpty files/folders in ubuntu
[03:45] <Photocopy> i4ba1_: I really can't say I know, sorry, but generally I found in experience this chat is more responsive with your problem explained in one message. Hate to sound rude, just letting you know :3
[03:45] <Logan_> !encrypt | Guest84104
[03:46] <SwedeMike> i4ba1_: look into the lshw command
[03:46] <i4ba1_> i try sudo lshw
[03:46] <Ben64> Photocopy: what are you trying to do?
[03:47] <Photocopy> Ben64: are you asking me to paste my problem yet again? Not sure what isn't clear...
[03:47] <i4ba1_> and in terminal show detail about my computer hardware
[03:47] <Ben64> Photocopy: i see your big explanation, but i'm not seeing what you want to do
[03:47] <MarconM> who know if dual core doi duo  is i686 yet
[03:47] <i4ba1_> but i just want the model number of the computer
[03:47] <SwedeMike> Photocopy: it's not clear what you need to fix. do you want to get your ext4 read/writable?
[03:47] <i4ba1_> not list all hardware, SweedeMike
[03:47] <Guest84104> Logan_, seems in depth
[03:48] <SwedeMike> i4ba1_: motherboard model should be in there.
[03:48] <Photocopy> Ben64, SwedeMike; Yes. The HFS+ is for writing my pro tools/logic sessions to with the mac in the recording studio, and the ext4 is for my own personal use. The FAT32 is there incase i need to swap anything back and forth (Didnt realize linux could read HFS+)
[03:49] <Ben64> Photocopy: ....so you want to write to ext4
[03:49] <Photocopy> Ben64: yeah!
[03:49] <SwedeMike> Photocopy: sudo chmod a+w <directory where ext4 is mounted>
[03:49] <Photocopy> =)
[03:49] <Ben64> ok, good. you said root can write though
[03:49] <jamiewan> i4ba1_, sudo lshw will show it
[03:49] <Linuxpwns> Anub: You are sure that package is meant for your architecture right? Try installing the Gdebi package installer and then rerunning the .DEB installation just to be sure.
[03:49] <Photocopy> right, but I want to be able to write to it normally like i do the fat32 partition
[03:50] <SwedeMike> Photocopy: chmod a+w does that.
[03:50] <celeryman> if possible i need some internet help in ubuntu 10.04
[03:50] <jsoft> Internet help?
[03:50] <Ben64> sudo chown -R <username> /path/to/ext4/partition
[03:50] <jsoft> Prolly start by describing your problem
[03:50] <Ben64> Photocopy: ^
[03:50] <Linuxpwns> i will try to the best of my abilities.... whats the problem celeryman
[03:51] <Photocopy> SwedeMike, Ben64: It didn't work though.
[03:51] <Logan_> !ask | celeryman
[03:51] <Ben64> Photocopy: did you do my chown line?
[03:51] <phoenixsampras> help! how to share a resource, so a windows machine can access to my ubuntu pc??? SOS
[03:52] <Photocopy> Ben64: There wasnt a highlight. sorry. I thought your "Photocopy: ^" was referring to swedemike's advice. One sec
[03:52] <celeryman> okay   i am showing a connection to internet under ethernet and wirless, i am able to ping www. google.com from terminal  but cant surf web or dl from software center
[03:52] <Ben64> oh
[03:52] <celeryman> thank you
[03:53] <Linuxpwns> phoenix, install samba on your machine (if missing) then right-click on the folder you wish to share and choose sharing options, then select your parameters that viola
[03:53] <Logan_> !samba | phoenixsampras
[03:54] <Photocopy> ben64: thank you. I can read and write the ext4. Can I ask you one more thing? Am I right in my assumption that linux cannot write to HFS+? I don't expect to need to; reading is quite good enough, but I want to make sure I don't spread misinformation
[03:54] <Ben64> Photocopy: The Linux HFS+ kernel driver has support to read and write to HFS+ non-journaled drives/parititions but only has read support of journaled HFS+
[03:55] <Linuxpwns> phoenixsampras: also if you have a firewall enabled don't forget to forward TCP port 139 to allow traffic on your network to connect to the share
[03:55] <leapy0yo> hi
[03:55] <fight> hi
[03:55] <Mrwootwoot> hi
[03:55] <leapy0yo> how do I move all files in a subdirectory to the parent directory in terminal... maybe I can use for...that is used regularly, no?
[03:55] <Photocopy> Ben64: Ah, I picked Journaled. I'll leave it, cause I don't need to write.
[03:55] <RealOpty> help!
[03:55] <RealOpty> how can i switch to ALSA
[03:56] <Photocopy> Ben64: Now that my drive is in three partitions, when I plug it in it pops up three nautilus windows. This is insanely annoying. What can I do about this?
[03:56] <lrate> is it possible to install a bootable and persistent ubuntu on an external HD preferably as a vdi/vhd file?
[03:56] <RealOpty> ive discovered  that my hdmi audio works via ALSA
[03:56] <Jordan_U> leapy0yo: mv /path/to/direcory/* /path/to/
[03:56] <gbear14275> ok yeah, te, jamiewan I rebooted and have the same Zombie sh process under a gwibber-service parent process
[03:56] <Photocopy> lrate: I don't know about the vdi/vhd stuff but i've had a bootable persistent ubuntu on a usb stick so I'm going to go ahead and say yes. It's pretty easy to find with google.
[03:58] <celeryman> does that make sense
[03:58] <Ben64> Photocopy: um.... theres a way to turn off the auto thingy, but idk how
[03:58] <Logan_> !alsa | RealOpty
[03:58] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: Can you pastebin the output of "pstree -p"?
[03:58] <Photocopy> Ben64: Okay, thanks.
[03:59] <RealOpty> Logan_, ty
[03:59] <Logan_> RealOpty: you're welcome
[04:00] <gbear14275> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/D0R9cuMv
[04:00] <Linuxpwns> Real0pty: Have a look at this link http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/04/ubuntu-make-alsa-default-instead-of-pulseaudio/
[04:00] <RealOpty> kk
[04:02] <gbear14275> Jordan_U, does that make sense?  the sh session 2140 is zombie
[04:02] <gbear14275> 2540*
[04:02] <Linuxpwns> realopty, just curious do you have an nvidia GPU with an HDMI audio out jack?
[04:02] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: As you can see the only parent of any of the gwibber-service processes (other than init) is another gwibber-service process, so you probably didn't kill anything other than gwibber.
[04:02] <Photocopy> Ben64: One more thing; do you know why every time I boot up, it asks me for my keyring password 4 times?
[04:02] <RealOpty> yes i do have that
[04:02] <kisuke> ok question for you all, any one know how to purge a SSH cert?
[04:02] <RealOpty> Linuxpwns, suggestions?
[04:03] <gbear14275> Jordan_U, is it possible to kill the zombie directly?  I tried to use sigchld to the parent but it wouldn't kill the zombie child
[04:03] <Ben64> Photocopy: whatever you have set up using keyring, i'd suggest having a blank password for it
[04:03] <Linuxpwns> Photocopy, it encrypts your saved passwords to provide a little extra layer of security
[04:03] <SwedeMike> gbear14275: you can't kill a zombie, that's why it's a zombie.
[04:03] <celeryman> getting connection timed out in firefox.. showing active internet with wireless and ethernet, i can ping google from terminal, \
[04:03] <gbear14275> SwedeMike, ah
[04:03] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: A zombie process indicates a bug in the parent process. If the parent never reaps the child, and you don't kill that buggy parent, it will stay a zombie.
[04:04] <Photocopy> Linuxpwns: why does it ask me four times though!
[04:04] <gbear14275> ah... ok
[04:04] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: Please file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug 2523".
[04:04] <Linuxpwns> Photocopy, to remove the keyring go to your Home Folder, click View > Show Hidden Files. Click on .gnome2 > keyrings  DELETE EVERYTHING INSIDE HERE. Restart your computer then when it prompts you to type in a password just hit OK to transmit in clear text and you won't be asked again.
[04:04] <gbear14275> Jordan_U, ok
[04:04] <gbear14275> Jordan_U, thanks
[04:05] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: You're welcome.
[04:05] <Photocopy> Linuxpwns: I like the keyring. I don't like it asking me four times in a row. Are you sure that its all or nothing?
[04:05] <Ramirez> Hello I am having trouble getting my laptop to suspend when the lid is closed. I've tried installing pm-utils and laptop-mode-tools but neither one helps. Please help me if you can.
[04:05] <Linuxpwns> photocopy, when are you prompted to input your password for keyring?
[04:06] <[deXter]> Ramirez: I doubt if anyone can help, this is a known problem with laptops. I guess you just have to wait until your laptop is eventually supported
[04:06] <celeryman> any ideas would be appreciated
[04:07] <Ramirez> thank you {deXter}
[04:07] <Linuxpwns> Ramirez: Does your laptop's bios allow you to change the sleep states (i.e S1, S2, S3, S4)?
[04:07] <RealOpty> BRB some kinda network problems
[04:07] <b1lly> how do i know if i have ubuntu lucid lynx, karmic koala, or hard heron
[04:08] <Flannel> b1lly: lsb_release -a
[04:08] <Photocopy> Linuxpwns: My computer enters my user account on bootup. It loads my panels and docky and everything and a dialogue asks me to enter my password to unlock the keyring. I type it and hit enter. the box closes and returns and asks again. 4 times total
[04:08] <Logan_> !please | celeryman
[04:08] <b1lly> Flannel: it just says ubuntu 10.10 codename:maverick
[04:08] <Logan_> b1lly: that means that you have maverick...
[04:09] <Logan_> well, technically maverick meerkat
[04:10] <joeyr> Anybody familiar with plop Linux?
[04:10] <[deXter]> I've use plop but haven't used plop linux
[04:10] <[deXter]> *used
[04:10] <Linuxpwns> Photocopy I see. It sounds like you might have multiple apps which have authentication credentials involved and thus you are putting in the keyring password to enable all 4 of them...?
[04:11] <RealOpty> back
[04:11] <RealOpty> Linuxpwns,  so any suggestions?
[04:11] <xene> lets all get naked
[04:11] <RealOpty> already am haha
[04:11] <Linuxpwns> Remove the keyrings as suggested, reboot then when it prompts you for the password again just hit OK to transmit in clear text
[04:11] <xene> RealOpty++
[04:11] <Logan_> joeyr: Distributions other than Ubuntu are not supported in this channel.
[04:11] <Photocopy> Linuxpwns: I don't know. Usually I get connected to my wifi after the first, nothing noticeable happens after the others. Rarely, it asks twice instead of four times. My computer doesnt seem to be less functioning when it asks twice, its almost always four though
[04:12] <Jordan_U> xene: That's not apropriate for this channel.
[04:12] <xene> Jordan_U, have you ever felt the touch of a woman?
[04:12] <joeyr> Logan_: Well I have ubuntu on my external and I'm trying to boot ubuntu from a bootloader
[04:12] <Jordan_U> !guidelines | xene
[04:12] <RealOpty> LOL
[04:12] <DavidReza> someone can help me in acivating GLX?
[04:13] <jayd3e> so I have my NIC inserted into a slot, and Ubuntu doesn't even see it, this is confirmed by a lspci, how should I troubleshoot?
[04:13] <gbear14275> new issue... whenever I try and select an iso to use with usb-creator it crashes or just doesn't respond to the selection
[04:14] <joeyr> [dexter]: I'm trying to make it so my computer recognizes my ubuntu on my external hard drive first
[04:15] <[deXter]> joeyr: No boot device priority in your bios ?
[04:15] <naturalpsychic> @joeyr change boot sequence
[04:16] <joeyr> [dexter]: It's set to the cd drive first. What I want to do is have a usb tell the computer to go to my external hard drive first
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[04:17] <Linuxpwns> joeyr, do you have an OEM machine (aka HP A6350N for example)>?
[04:17] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: yes.
[04:17] <rattlebone> HAHA Saul Goodman.
[04:18] <rattlebone> Oh, fatty
[04:18] <Linuxpwns> would you mind telling me so I can look up your bios info?
[04:18] <Saturn2888> it is I thoguht
[04:18] <RealOpty> Linuxpwns, know anything bout the nvidia hdmi working with pulse?
[04:19] <Linuxpwns> I use ALSA for that.
[04:19] <RealOpty> point taken
[04:19] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: It's a gateway. The internal hard drive has windows media player 2005 running on it.  GM5084 is the computer's number (Ithink)
[04:20]  * RealOpty removes pulse
[04:20] <Linuxpwns> realOpty, ubuntu 10.10 detected the nvidia hdmi audio out port on my box so im sure it would work...
[04:20] <RealOpty> well im on 10.10
[04:20] <RealOpty> it does detect it
[04:20] <Linuxpwns> Thanks joeyr, i have a GM5632E
[04:20] <RealOpty> but nothing plays unless i use alsa with vlc player
[04:22] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: No problem, I've been seeing all these videos about how people use either a cd or usb to change their boot order, but none of them helped because none of them mentioned booting to an external drive from having the usb first in the boot order
[04:23] <Saturn2888> Ubuntu Server isn't installing properly from the USB. I have this problem every time I install via USB. Does anyone know why it doesn't detect it from the installer? It says "Insert CD-ROM" or something and gives this error: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47554702/ubuntu-1004-install-fail.gif
[04:23] <[deXter]> joeyr: I don't see what the issue is? Just use the regular plop and you'll be fine
[04:23] <Taena> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRxDdFemjkg
[04:24] <Linuxpwns> joeyr, in the boot priority options in your bios (i.e First  CD Second Floppy Third HDD) etc.... do you see USB as an option?
[04:26] <Molybdenum> hey, im trying to boot 10.04 off of a livecd however it freezes just when it brings up the install window
[04:26] <Molybdenum> any ideas?
[04:26] <dan123> hi all
[04:27] <Ben64> Molybdenum: you could try installing from the alternate cd
[04:27] <lrate> can you install ubuntu to a vdi/vhd and put it on a bootable usb ?
[04:27] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: I'll have to turn off my computer to check. or do I have to?
[04:27] <Molybdenum> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download
[04:27] <Linuxpwns> i can try to look it up online real quick before you do.
[04:27] <Molybdenum> as in that ben64?
[04:28] <joeyr> [dexter]: Alright I'll download it
[04:28] <Ben64> Molybdenum: sort of. theres the normal cd, and one labeled "alternate" which is a text based installation
[04:28] <[deXter]> lrate: no need for a vdi you can just use the startup creator or use unetbootin or pendrivelinux.com
[04:29] <lrate> [deXter] the thing is if its a vdi/vhd though I can back it up easily and restore it when my drive fails
[04:30] <Molybdenum> so i click the hyperlink that says a location near you
[04:30] <Ben64> no...
[04:30] <[deXter]> lrate: Again, no need because you can create a persistent storage space which is just a single file casper.rw .. it's like an image file
[04:30] <Ben64> Molybdenum: download the "alternate" cd
[04:31] <Molybdenum> where is that link?
[04:31] <Molybdenum> alternate installer right?
[04:31] <Ben64> yeah
[04:32] <Molybdenum> ok
[04:32] <Molybdenum> its a torrent, correct?
[04:32] <Ben64> there are torrents available
[04:32] <joeyr> [dexter]: alright, plop is extracted onto my usb drive
[04:32] <Linuxpwns> I use Clonezilla to image my partitions
[04:32] <Ben64> or http if you prefer
[04:33] <Molybdenum> ben64 the http one is in the "place near you" link correct?
[04:33] <xatierlike> Ex-chat
[04:33] <Ben64> after a few clicks it can reach it
[04:33] <Molybdenum> yea
[04:33] <Ben64> but you'd still have to make sure to pick the right one
[04:34] <hello> hello
[04:34] <Ben64> hello hello
[04:34] <Linuxpwns> This is not BONO!
[04:34] <Linuxpwns> (if anyone got my joke)
[04:34] <hello> linux is a world
[04:35] <Linuxpwns> Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
[04:35] <[deXter]> Linuxpwns: You mean the song? "Hello? Is it me you're looking for?"
[04:35] <hello> and that is the reason i love it
[04:35] <hello> that is my nickname
[04:35] <lrate> [deXter] could you link me to a guide for that casper thing? and thanks for the info sounds like what i was looking for
[04:36] <[deXter]> lrate: No need for a guide, just head to pendrivelinux.com
[04:36] <hello> bye bye i got a job
[04:36] <[deXter]> and download the universal usb creator
[04:36] <JackyChao> Is IPv6 48-bit or 64-bit?
[04:36] <Linuxpwns> dexter, how do you whisper in red?
[04:37] <lrate> [deXter] cheers, thanks again
[04:37] <[deXter]> Linuxpwns: er, what?
[04:38] <Linuxpwns> when you type to me it appears in red
[04:38] <Linuxpwns> When you address my name
[04:38] <Mr_Midnight> Hi, I am looking to install Ubuntu on a new partition that I'll create on my windows 7 laptop and I want to know if I can use the windows boot loader instead of Grub
[04:38] <Jordan_U> lrate: I would recommend a standard install rather than a persistent live install.
[04:39] <[deXter]> Linuxpwns: yeah that's automatic, just type the name of the person at the starting.
[04:39] <Linuxpwns> Mr_Midnight: The Windows boot loader cannot see the Linux partition so it would be prudent that you install Linux on top of Windows and let Grub do the managing
[04:39] <Linuxpwns> [deXter]: Does this text appear in red?
[04:39] <Jordan_U> Mr_Midnight: Not in any reasonable configuration. Why do you want to?
[04:39] <Mr_Midnight> but I can't stand that grub won't keep windows as the main boot option any time it updates the kernel
[04:40] <Ben64> Mr_Midnight: it can keep windows as default
[04:40] <Jordan_U> Mr_Midnight: Use the full title for the windows menu entry, quoted since it contains spaces, as the value for GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub.
[04:40] <Jordan_U> Mr_Midnight: That way numbering doesn't matter.
[04:41] <Mr_Midnight> I haven't seen a way to do it without numbering..
[04:41] <Linuxpwns> Mr_Midnight: Very simple. Install a package called "StartUp-Manager" its a GUi tool allows you to select your default OS and then let grub do the dirty work.  Type in "startupmanager" in search. Install the package. Then locate the StartUp-Manager utility. Under "Default Operating Systems" change to Windows.
[04:43] <Mr_Midnight> Linuxpwns: If I do that I still have to watch for kernel updates... if I miss an update that I have it install in the background it will change the boot order on me and screw up on the next reboot...
[04:43] <Mr_Midnight> Jordan_U: Can you give a more specific example of how to use the name instead of a number?
[04:44] <kontagious> hey can someone tell me what this command does: if ! [ -f /etc/shadow ]
[04:44] <kontagious> there is no man page for if
[04:45] <Ben64> kontagious: should be "if /etc/shadows exists...."
[04:45] <icedtea> kontagious, basically if the file /etc/shadow doesn't exist
[04:45] <Ben64> oh
[04:45] <Ben64> missed the !
[04:45] <icedtea> Ben64: I believe the ! makes it the inverse
[04:46] <kontagious> whats the -f option?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Mr_Midnight: An example would be to put this in /etc/default/grub: GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)"
[04:46] <jian> 没有什么可以做的为 `install-data-am'。
[04:46] <G000531> i just heard a notification and i don't know what it was, is there some sort of way to log this ?
[04:46] <Linuxpwns> Mr_Midnight: I see. I'm never aware of a workaround for this problem. But the simple,  1-2-3 click GUI utility makes it a snap to change back to Windows when you do come across the kernel updates.
[04:46] <icedtea> kontagious: if "file"
[04:46] <jian> 没有什么可以做的为 `install-data-am'????
[04:46] <kontagious> icedtea, thanks :D
[04:47] <icedtea> kontagious: man bash, and then do a search for -f
[04:47] <jian> 安装编译 没有什么可以做的为 `install-data-am'。
[04:47] <Jordan_U> !cn | jian
[04:47] <unitheory> Need your help! Please review your Linux-compatible printer: http://linuxdeal.com/add-printer.php
[04:47] <Linuxpwns> Jordan_U: The Start-Up Manager utility does the same thing you mention, except through the GUI and far more reliable as you are not as prone to human error.
[04:48] <Ben64> unitheory: this is not a channel for advertising
[04:48] <Chr|s> !ubottu
[04:48] <unitheory> Ben64, sorry :[
[04:49] <Linuxpwns> !ask Will the cubs ever win the world series?
[04:49] <Jordan_U> !ot | Linuxpwns
[04:50] <Linuxpwns> im just being funny :P
[04:50] <icedtea> funny is not allowed in this channel
[04:50] <madoo> HI ROOM
[04:50] <shcherbak> HI
[04:50] <Linuxpwns> Oh snap.
[04:51] <icedtea> hey madoo
[04:51] <Mr_Midnight> ok so next question... which flavor of Ubuntu do people recommend?  I have been using WUBI but have been having issues so I'm switching back to a dedicated partition
[04:52] <Mr_Midnight> using WUBI to install Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit
[04:52] <Ben64> i use ubuntu
[04:52] <icedtea> 10.10 regular
[04:52] <icedtea> vanilla ubuntu
[04:52] <Linuxpwns> WUBI has a few bugs to work out still I agree with your decision to make dedicated partition midnight
[04:52] <icedtea>  how does WUBI work?
[04:52] <Ben64> i don't like wubi
[04:52] <Photocopy> call me weird, but I think it might be cool to have title bars that still have the close/min/max buttons, but without the text title. Any way I can try this out to see how it looks?
[04:53] <Mr_Midnight> icedtea: WUBI creates a virtual hard drive that is then mounted to run Ubuntu inside of instead of having a dedicated partition
[04:53] <Linuxpwns> it allows you to install linux while inside a windows operating system, but its not perfect
[04:53] <Mr_Midnight> icedtea: It lets you go up to a max of 30GB and is good if you really want to keep using windows boot loader and just play some with Ubuntu without knowing how to repartition your hard drive
[04:54] <icedtea> Mr_Midnight: ahhh, ty
[04:54] <Photocopy> Hmm.
[04:54] <shcherbak> Photocopy: Try emerald, you can edit any aspect of theme.
[04:54] <Photocopy> shcherbak: I'm not really sure how to switch it.
[04:55] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Alright so I downloaded plop onto my flashdrive(1G). I don't know what to do now. I want to boot my external HD(500G). Any ideas?
[04:55] <Linuxpwns> Mr_Midnight: I ran across this link. Might have useful information to resolve your problem with kernel updates. http://superuser.com/questions/102692/make-grub-keep-its-default-boot-under-kernel-updates
[04:55] <shcherbak> Photocopy: install emerald and ccsm, then add emerald as window decorator and issue command compiz --replace
[04:56] <leapy0yo> how do you move all subdirectory files to the parent directory?
[04:56] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: Did you make PLOP  a bootable USB image
[04:56] <Photocopy> shcherbak: I have ccsm. do i just sudo apt-get install emerald?
[04:56] <Mr_Midnight> Linuxpwns: Thanks for the link I'll look it over
[04:56] <shcherbak> leapy0yo: cp -r maneoffolder/* .
[04:56] <shcherbak> Photocopy: yes
[04:57] <Photocopy> shcherbak: isn't emerald more resource heavy? am i going to take a serious hit for removing a bit of text?
[04:57] <joeyr> linuxpwns: no. How do you do that?
[04:57] <Linuxpwns> Photocopy: I'm using the Vista Aero Black emerald theme.  The one thing I like about Windows is Aero.
[04:57] <Photocopy> Linuxpwns: That's kinda a neat little fact but... your point?
[04:57] <leapy0yo> how do you move _multiple_ all subdirectory files to the parent directory?
[04:58] <shcherbak> Photocopy: a bit yes.
[04:58] <Photocopy> shcherbak: i don't understand how to switch it to emerald now that i've installed it
[04:58] <unitheory> cp -r */* . ?????
[04:58] <unitheory> or would that be insane
[04:58] <shcherbak> leapy0yo: oh, files? use find in loop
[04:59] <Linuxpwns> joeyr:  do you already have plop installed or are you looking to install it?
[04:59] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: already installed on my 1G
[04:59] <soreau> Photocopy: emerald --replace
[04:59] <Linuxpwns> I see.
[04:59] <soreau> Photocopy: It will likely be the default when you restart compiz
[05:00] <Photocopy> soreau: before I fire off that command, whats my way out if it messes up. metacity --replace?
[05:00] <shcherbak> Photocopy: in ccsm go to window decoration set emerald, you need theme too, or try emerald --replace
[05:00] <soreau> Photocopy: sure
[05:00] <Photocopy> shcherbak: still not sure what part of the window decoration section in ccsm you mean
[05:01] <Photocopy> soreau: are there any places i can find and change up emerald themes and stuff?
[05:01] <shcherbak> Photocopy: one sec
[05:01] <lrate> Jordan_U i've never used ubuntu yet so I wanted to try it out before going all the way, wubi wasn't working so I figured i'd try for something else, If i could do a full install to a vdi/vhd i'd be up for that but I guess the best suggestion so far has been his pendrivelinux thing
[05:01] <soreau> Photocopy: emerald-theme-manager
[05:02] <Photocopy> soreau; where can i find emerald themes... gnome-look?
[05:02] <Mr_Midnight> lrate: you can also try using a virtual machine inside of windows if you aren't comfortable partitioning your hard drive
[05:02] <soreau> Photocopy: There, compiz-themes.org and kde-look.org
[05:02] <shcherbak> Photocopy: text Command, either put emerald --replace, or path to emerald
[05:02] <soreau> Photocopy: I have a deb package of some generic themes if you want
[05:03] <lrate> Mr_Midnight that wouldn't allow me to test graphic related things though :( i lose either way lol
[05:03] <Photocopy> soreau: if i cannot get the elementary theme window border pretty much exactly how it is with metacity i'm just going to switch back anyway. Let me search around and see if i can find it adapted
[05:03] <Linuxpwns> Photocopy:  Open Compiz Config Settings Manager. Click on Window Decorations. In command, erase default and then input "emerald". Click back.  Open a terminal and CD to your directory containing the .emerald file.  In terminal type emerald --replace EMERALD-NAME.emerald.  Your window border should turn red'ish now. Open emerald and click Import. Double click on your imported emerald theme. Log out and log back in.
[05:03] <soreau> Photocopy: How is it different than metacity?
[05:04] <Photocopy> soreau: how is what different than metacity?
 soreau: if i cannot get the elementary theme window border pretty much exactly how it is with metacity <--
[05:04] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Do I do something with the iso image?
[05:04] <Mr_Midnight> anyway thanks all for your help time to go grab a midnight snack and then start an ubuntu install on  my new 48GB partition
[05:05] <Photocopy> soreau: I don't think that danrabbit, creator of the theme i normally use, made an emerald version of it. checking to see if someone ported it
[05:05] <PeterFA> I installed apache2, php5, the module for php5 and apache2, restarted apache2 and it serves PHP unparsed.
[05:06] <medfly> X failed to start on boot all of a sudden. :( I think it's a failed update or so.
[05:06] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: How did you install PLOP to your USB device?
[05:06] <medfly> how do I do those updates without X running?
[05:06] <HeColdFeet> medfly: apt-get upgrade
[05:06] <HeColdFeet> medfly: or apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:07] <medfly> oh yeah okay just found it too, thanks
[05:07]  * medfly tries
[05:07] <medfly> this is really horrible panicking in 3,2...
[05:07] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: downloaded from firefox, copied to my 1G and then extracted the zip inside. I'm using plpbt-5.0.11-2
[05:08] <medfly> nope :(
[05:09] <medfly> has sanyone had any problems like that here lately?
[05:09] <medfly> X not starting.
[05:09] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: So I take your BIOS does not support booting off USB drives?
[05:10] <Photocopy> soreau: i cant change the order of buttons on emerald?
[05:10] <soreau> medfly: Can you boot into recovery mode?
[05:11] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: No, because I have Linux on my external and after I installed it, windows automatically booted up.
[05:11] <soreau> Photocopy: Sure you can
[05:11] <soreau> Photocopy: Somewhere in etm, there is a cryptic string you change.. it has text explaining exactly how to use it
[05:11] <medfly> I am on the computer right now, but with no X. it says that fglrx had trouble starting the driver (?) and later complains there is no capable screen found
[05:11] <dsnyders> Anybody know a good primer/tutorial site for IPv6?
[05:11] <medfly> I'll try to upgrade it
[05:12] <medfly> wait nvm
[05:12] <medfly> it said something about another package
[05:12] <medfly> linux-headers-generic.
[05:12] <soreau> medfly: sudo apt-get remove fglrx && sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo reboot
[05:12] <soreau> medfly: That should get X starting at least
[05:13] <Linuxpwns> joeyr, are you on the same machine that boots up windows automatically or a separate one?
[05:13] <medfly> soreau: thanks dude
[05:13] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: What I'll try doing is turning off my computer and seeing if I could press f8 or something and see if it will let me, but I don't think it will
[05:13] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Same machine. I have Linux on an external hd
[05:13] <Linuxpwns> joeyr, restart the machine that has your problem hit ESC to enter boot options... if you do not see your USB device listed as a possible option your bios does not support booting to your external
[05:14] <rlankfo> help! i can't do anything with apt-get becuase it is constantly hanging up on the same broken package
[05:14] <soreau> rlankfo: Have you tried removing this package?
[05:14] <rlankfo> yessir, hangs
[05:14] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Alright thanks! I'll be back here if it doesn't work.
[05:14] <Linuxpwns> Sure.
[05:14] <soreau> rlankfo: pastebin the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[05:15] <Photocopy> soreau: It just really doesnt look right, still. I don't know
[05:15] <rlankfo> http://pastebin.com/Z2LWU9cT
[05:15] <rlankfo> even trying to install another package
[05:15] <rlankfo> it'll hang
[05:15] <soreau> ! emerald | Photocopy
[05:15] <rlankfo> right there
[05:15] <Photocopy> soreau: except metacity (although it's not for compiz specifically)
[05:16] <Photocopy> soreau: gimme a sec and ill show you
[05:16] <soreau> Photocopy: Actually, there is an alternative to emerald at least.. kde-window-decorator can do emerald themes with some help from smaragd
[05:16] <dogarrhea> holy crap
[05:17] <rlankfo> any ideas?
[05:17] <dogarrhea> is ignore list management a WISHLIST item?
[05:17] <HeColdFeet> rlankfo: deleting the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/request-tracker3.8.postinst will fix this
[05:17] <dogarrhea> how bad can ubuntu for desktop be...
[05:17] <nicolaus> who can help me block people from downloading torrents on my network
[05:17] <nicolaus> whats the port number for torrents
[05:17] <HeColdFeet> rlankfo: but after that I suggest reinstalling the package
[05:17] <soreau> rlankfo: That looks very broken
[05:18] <Photocopy> soreau: hmm. Okay, so now compiz and metacity have become mutually exclusive
[05:18] <Photocopy> soreau: setting metacity --replace turns off compiz on me now
[05:18] <soreau> Photocopy: That's how it's supposed to work.
[05:18] <soreau> Photocopy: Only one window manager can run at a time
[05:18] <Photocopy> soreau: well before anything we just did, i had metacity running with compiz just fine
[05:18] <soreau> Photocopy: To use metacity theme in compiz, start compiz then run gtk-window-decorator --replace
[05:19] <Knio> fork()/sys_clone()/process creation in general is really slow on some of my ubuntu machines, any idea what could cause this?
[05:19] <Photocopy> thanks soreau
[05:19] <soreau> Photocopy: You're not running metacity, you're running a compiz decorator that is using the metacity theme
[05:19] <medfly> soreau: should I do a bug report? I didn't do anything too special to cause it (except updating packages)
[05:20] <soreau> medfly: Did X start?
[05:20] <medfly> soreau: it did now
[05:20] <Photocopy> soreau: okay. regardless; the non-emerald looks like this
[05:20] <Photocopy> soreau: http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4159/screenshothmc.png
[05:20] <soreau> medfly: Don't get halfway through a driver install and expect it to work. Also, the default open source radeon driver is fully capable these days
[05:20] <Photocopy> soreau: and i guess I didn't try very heart, i could probably get emerald closer, but this was emerald; http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6046/derpz.png
[05:21] <Linuxpwns> Knio: Those machines running ubuntu are lacking resources? (low RAM, not multi-core processors, etc?)
[05:21] <theamazingbeat> is anyone a cygwin guru
[05:21] <medfly> soreau: the driver worked previously. I think ubuntu asked me to upgrade the kernel, and that somehow had trouble in the middle.
[05:21] <soreau> medfly: There's always trouble with proprietary drivers
[05:21] <medfly> not multi core processors = lacking in resources. oh my god, it's 2011 :D
[05:22] <medfly> soreau: I see, OK.
[05:22] <soreau> Photocopy: Looks like it's just missing the titlebar text
[05:22] <moonchild> hey guys, I'm wondering if someone here can help me with an NFS question
[05:22] <soreau> medfly: If you'd like to use latest radeon drivers, install xorg-edgers repo
[05:22] <medfly> soreau: well, it's all right now, I'll worry about getting it again later :)
[05:22] <Knio> Linuxpwns: nope. as far as I can tell everything is the same as the machines where its fast (they are running the same set of services with the same load, almost identical hardware, etc)
[05:22] <Photocopy> soreau: thats what i experimented with emerald for; i wanted to see what no titlebar text would look like and they said i cant do it in gtk-window-decorator/whateverthehell default is
[05:22] <soreau> medfly: Yea, you're using the open driver now
[05:23] <saned> shoot moonchild; I'm not an expert but someone else may chime in
[05:23] <soreau> Photocopy: It's entirely your preference but I think they look close enough
[05:23] <medfly> soreau: with how much I upgraded, it'd probably be faster than I'm used to anyway
[05:23] <The_Pharoah> what are the reasons for programmers to use linux? i heard something about better libraries or something
[05:23] <Photocopy> soreau; also an annoying 1 or 2 pixel thing appeared under my wifi icon on my panel and its driving me insane. idk why its there
[05:23] <medfly> :)
[05:23] <moonchild> ...I'm trying to mount a directory off of one machine onto another, password files are sinked, I have no_root_squash in my export options
[05:23] <Photocopy> you can see it in the screenshots soreau
[05:23] <Linuxpwns> Knio: What about the priority of the process itself?
[05:24] <moonchild> and on the client, the UID/GID of the files is coming up as<PHONE_NUMBER>
[05:24] <The_Pharoah> why should programmers use linux?
[05:24] <soreau> Photocopy: Try restarting gnome-panel?
[05:24] <Linuxpwns> The_Pharoah: Because its open source.
[05:24] <The_Pharoah> so how do i see the code?
[05:24] <andruha> can someone help with my Kubuntu system? it gets really, REALLy slow after a day or two.. I would rather not restart it as I dont want to interrupt what is running
[05:24] <Linuxpwns> download it
[05:24] <joeyr> linuxpwns: Wouldn't let me boot from my external. It gives me the option, but then it says "no bootable device found."
[05:25] <Photocopy> soreau; still there
[05:25] <soreau> Photocopy: Oh well, not telling
[05:25] <Linuxpwns> So your bios allows you to boot from your external drive?
[05:25] <moonchild> Linuxpwns: plently of stuff is open source, doesn't mean I'll use it :P
[05:25] <Knio> Linuxpwns: I don't think we've changed anything there
[05:25] <haoyihuan> #ubuntu-cn
[05:25] <theamazingbeat> so no one here knows anything aout cygwin (i know it is on a windows platform, but i really need some info)
[05:25] <haoyihuan> how to enter ubuntu-cn ?
[05:25] <The_Pharoah> Linuxpwns: so how do i see the source code?
[05:25] <duanedesign> The_Pharoah: apt-gget source <package>
[05:25] <soreau> The_Pharoah: The source to what? The linux kernel?
[05:26] <rww> haoyihuan: /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:26] <ac7ss_> andruha: what does top show (for the header) system load, memory useage. et.
[05:26] <haoyihuan>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:26] <The_Pharoah> lol
[05:26] <The_Pharoah> i dunno
[05:26] <soreau> haoyihuan: No space preceeding
[05:26] <The_Pharoah> i was just wondering if there was any advantage to programming in linux
[05:26] <Linuxpwns> Knio: On a machine that is running perfectly fine, are the specs identical? Same CPU, RAM, etc...
[05:26] <The_Pharoah> than programming in windows or OS X
[05:26] <haoyihuan> join #ubuntu-cn
[05:26] <Linuxpwns> Same OS? etc
[05:26] <haoyihuan> ?
[05:26] <haoyihuan> #ubuntu-cn
[05:26] <moonchild> The_Pharoah: linux has a remarkably clean low-level api
[05:27] <duanedesign> The_Pharoah: apt-get source <package>   That will get the source for all the packages(programs) in the Ubuntu repos. You can also go to sites like Launchpad and Sourceforge
[05:27] <ac7ss_> Pharoah what language are you programming in? what are you writing?
[05:27] <Linuxpwns> moonchild: Well said
[05:27] <soreau> The_Pharoah: It's much more programmer-friendly, but you can configure any environment of your choice to be convenient
[05:27] <The_Pharoah> java, python, c++, html
[05:28] <moonchild> I can't necessarily say the same for the user-facing interfaces of distros like ubuntu, but that's a flame-war that I don't want to get into
[05:28] <Knio> Linuxpwns: slightly different model of CPU, probably same for mb/ram, but all are comparable. tasks that don't involve fork() all complete in the same times, fork() is ~100 times slower on one
[05:28] <Saturn2888> how does Ubuntu take 4K sectors into account? As far as I know, Linux cannot
[05:28] <The_Pharoah> moonchild: so i dont really know what api is/does
[05:28] <ac7ss_> The_Pharoah: what audience are you looking at? that makes all the difference.
[05:28] <joeyr> The_Pharoah: if you type in "programming" or the language of interest in the Ubuntu software center, you'll find a lot of cool things.
[05:28] <kontagious> where can i see the man pages for ACL
[05:28] <moonchild> Saturn2888: 4K sectors? on disk?
[05:28] <ac7ss_> google "man ACL"
[05:29] <The_Pharoah> ac7ss_: programmers
[05:29] <Linuxpwns> Knio: Same kernel version as well?
[05:29] <andruha> ac7ss_, when idling it uses barely any resources, but the moment i try to open something the cpu jumps to 100%...
[05:30] <moonchild> andruha: for how long?
[05:30] <soreau> The_Pharoah: maybe you could use come channel like ##linux, ##programming or any of the languages of your choice.
[05:30] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Linux can handle 4K sectors fine, though almost no BIOSs can and it's very rare. That error has nothing to do with 4K sectors.
[05:30] <ac7ss_> andruha: what is memory looking like?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: What program did you use to make the USB?
[05:30] <soreau> The_Pharoah: We already know everyone here is using linux but in those other channels, maybe some do not
[05:30] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: I was wondering if I should just put plop on my external hard drive along with linux instead of having a USB.
[05:30] <andruha> moonchild, for atleast 30-50 seconds (thin only happens if the system has been running for a day +)
[05:30] <Knio> Linuxpwns: fast one is 2.6.32-30 and slow one is -26 :/ I can't reboot it to the newer kernel though. maybe I can find a different machine with the same kernel
[05:30] <ac7ss_> The_Pharoah: are you making programming tools?
[05:31] <andruha> ac7ss_, plenty of free memory
[05:31] <huabao> Where are you from ?
[05:31] <The_Pharoah> soreau: most of them are invite only :(
[05:31] <soreau> ! register | The_Pharoah
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Knio: try holding shift at boot. You could also try running: sudo update-grub
[05:31] <moonchild> andruha: sounds like you are using either too much swap, have too many apps open or have a badly behaving program running
[05:31] <The_Pharoah> its already registered??
[05:31] <Knio> nah I mean its running the live website :)
[05:32] <soreau> The_Pharoah: Many of them required your nick to be registered due to problems with spam and such
[05:32] <Linuxpwns> Knio: I see.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade does not work on the offending machine?
[05:32] <The_Pharoah> soreau: ok, i think i already registered mine though
[05:32] <andruha> moonchild, im using 30% of ram and 0% of swap
[05:32] <ajin> my girlfriend wanna use ubuntu
[05:32] <soreau> The_Pharoah: Which channel can you not join?
[05:32] <Knio> it works, but you need to reboot for it to be running the new kernel
[05:32] <ajin> anyone has idea?
[05:32] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: hi again Jordan. The one from ubuntu.com. Some LinuxPenDrive thing; not unetbootin as usual
[05:33] <Knio> it has the new kernel, just hasn't been rebooted
[05:33] <soreau> ajin: Give her a live cd?
[05:33] <Linuxpwns> Knio: And you cannot reboot at this time, correct?
[05:33] <moonchild> andruha: don't know, maybe you got rooted?
[05:33] <duanedesign> The_Pharoah: your nick is registered '/msg NickServ INFO The_Pharoah '
[05:33] <Knio> yeah
[05:33] <ajin> yes, this might be a good idea
[05:33] <ac7ss> Is your wait % going really high?
[05:33] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Try following the instructions on the download page @ Ubuntu.com.
[05:33] <tripelbb> where are pidgin log files?
[05:33] <Linuxpwns> Knio: You are currently using the server in production enviornment right now... am I correct?
[05:33] <andruha> wait %? whats that?
[05:33] <Knio> yup
[05:33] <duanedesign> The_Pharoah: but i do dnot think you are identified
[05:33] <Saturn2888> moonchild: yes. Jordan_U for 4K sectors, I have a pair of WD10EARS I bought. I've setup 4K in ZFS before in FreeBSD, but never done it in Linux. All I've read, it has issues. the most I can do is align, but I can't tell the partition the size of the sector or write area is 4K, not 512-bytes
[05:34] <moonchild> tripelbb: ~/.purple/logs
[05:34] <Linuxpwns> Knio: Do I get a cookie for that correct answer? Not the tracking kind.
[05:34] <The_Pharoah> i tried joining #java
[05:34] <ac7ss> the 3rd line of top. shows where the useage is.
[05:34] <tripelbb> thanks moonchild
[05:34] <duanedesign> The_Pharoah: Last seen  : Jan 28 09:44:53 2011 (7 weeks, 3 days, 19:48:33 ago)
[05:34] <Knio> yeah :)
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> The_Pharoah: I'd ask in #freenode about registering
[05:34] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: what instructions are there for the server version?
[05:34] <The_Pharoah> ok
[05:35] <Linuxpwns> Knio: All of the machines which are using sys_clone have the same identical source code across all the platforms...  correct?
[05:35] <ac7ss> Cpu(s):  4.6%us,  2.0%sy, 93.2%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.2%si,  0.0%st
[05:35] <The_Pharoah> is there a seperate chat room for terminal questions too or can i ask those here
[05:35] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Try following the ones for the Desktop version.
[05:35] <Linuxpwns> i.e the code is the same on machine 1, machine 2 ,etc
[05:35] <moonchild> Saturn2888: modern drives don't use CHS for addressing, so meh
[05:35] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: If they don't work you'll need to use the minimal install CD.
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> The_Pharoah: as long as they are terminal questions in ubuntu, its fine :)
[05:35] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: *minimal install CD image, written to a USB.
[05:36] <moonchild> so is anyone here at all competent w/ NFS?
[05:36] <Knio> Linuxpwns: yeah. its not our code that's slow, but running anything on the machine (like bash login scripts which fork a lot and call other scripts..)
[05:36] <The_Pharoah> ActionParsnip: lol ok, I was wondering if there was a command that shows everything hooked up to the router my laptop is hooked up with
[05:37] <ac7ss> The_Pharoah: I have a small shell script that shows all the valid pings.
[05:37] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: yeah, I've written to an old CD-RW I had lying around. I hate that it never works from USB no matter which I use. I can get into the installer and everything, just doesn't seem to notice sdd1 is mounted in /cdrom.
[05:37] <moonchild> Knio: actually, if profiling the system, I bet bash is *the least* of the problems
[05:37] <The_Pharoah> ac7ss: how did you make the script though
[05:37] <Saturn2888> moonchild: but sector size is more like an allocation unit in Windows. So long as files are not written less than 4K, I should be fine
[05:37] <ac7ss> The_Pharoah: it's a bash script....
[05:37] <soreau> ! download ajin
[05:38] <soreau> ! download | ajin
[05:38] <The_Pharoah> ac7ss: ah ok
[05:38] <Saturn2888> moonchild: Since this is a server and it will be logging a lot, I need to make sure it does that quickly.
[05:38] <Da|Mummy> whats crossover have over wine?
[05:38] <ajin> soreau:hi
[05:38] <soreau> ajin: hello
[05:38] <moonchild> Saturn2888: modern FS's allow you to tune the *blocks* per inode
[05:38] <ajin> soreau: hello
[05:39] <moonchild> typically for ext2/3/4 that defaults to 4k
[05:39] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: I followed the instructions though, not that I had to, and yes, it didn't work right huh. At least it works from CD, but that's really annoying since only a few rigs of mine have optical drives these days
[05:39] <Saturn2888> moonchild: oh really?
[05:39] <ac7ss> The_Pharoah: basically a do/while loop pinging each address in my subnet.
[05:39] <moonchild> Saturn2888: man mke2fs
[05:39] <Linuxpwns> knio: have you tried  "clone"?
[05:39] <Saturn2888> moonchild: I should be fine then
[05:40] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: The minimal install CD image will work, but then you'll have to download all the packages from the network during install (not too bad if you setup a local mirror).
[05:40] <moonchild> yeah, what's you're issue?
[05:40] <Saturn2888> Time to align partitions then. And I'm assuming Ubuntu's installer doesn't allow you to do RAID1 when it detects 2 same drives
[05:40] <joeyr> Linuxpwns:Do I have to do something with the iso for plop?
[05:40] <The_Pharoah> ah so they are just MAC addresses
[05:40] <Knio> Linuxpwns: strace shows clone() being slow, my own benchmark used fork() (not sure what kernel call fork uses exactly)
[05:40] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: oh it's okay. I got the whole CD
[05:41] <moonchild> Saturn2888: actually you'll have to try a few different things to figure out what works
[05:41] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: What do you mean by "2 same drives"? Why would identical drives be a problem?
[05:41] <ajin> i guess everyone here might persuade our girlfriend or any female in our family into using ubuntu(linux),lol
[05:41] <tripelbb> moonchild, I aint got no .purple in nautilus (yes I see hidden files.)  BUT in terminal I see it. Arg?
[05:41] <The_Pharoah> ajin: linux is for people who are good with computers though....
[05:41] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: in most installers it gives me a RAID1 option when partitioning to install. Ubuntu Server's installer is not.
[05:41] <moonchild> I can tell you that HW raid solutions are a lot more ridgid than linux's sw raid
[05:41] <tripelbb> ajin, what's up? needa female perspective?
[05:41]  * ac7ss got his wife to use it. just had to prove that her games worked under WINE
[05:42] <soreau> The_Pharoah: Not exclusively, anyone can use linux
[05:42] <moonchild> tripelbb: blame it on the gnome folks trying to hide shit from yo
[05:42] <tripelbb> but moonie, I see .xchat2 and many many moe.
[05:42] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: I would use the Universal USB installer from www.pendrivelinux.com, boot into Windows on your machine and "burn" the ISO image to your USB drive using that utility. Select "unsupported" if PLOP isnt available as a option. Before you do this, copy the ISo to your desktop in windows, then format your drive as FAT32. Then open Universal USB program and browse for your ISO and burn!
[05:42] <Saturn2888> moonchild: really? Yeah, I don't have any faster hardware RAID that allow monitoring in Linux. Why would I have to play around with it? And do you know if Ubuntu boots from GPT?
[05:42] <The_Pharoah> soreau: but really if you aern't in a computer related career you're gonna be using Windows or OS X
[05:42] <tripelbb> moonchild, why would they do that to me.
[05:42] <moonchild> tripelbb: i think there's an option in nautilus to view those files
[05:43] <ac7ss> 90% of computer usage is now web based. Give them a good browser and let them know it is safer from viruses, easy to transition.
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> tripelbb: press CTRL+H
[05:43] <soreau> The_Pharoah: That's simply not a true statement, Also, it doesn't have much to ubuntu, so let's try to stay on topic
[05:43] <moonchild> Saturn2888: GPT?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: amen
[05:43] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Yes, Ubuntu supports GPT, and uses it by default for drives larger than 2 TiB.
[05:43] <tripelbb> moonchild, i can see hiddenfiles already. as I said I see .schat2 and many more.
[05:43] <Linuxpwns> Knio: I'm not a programming expert but from what I gather, "fork" create a new addres space while "clone" share address space between parent and child
[05:43] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: oh ok cool. moonchild <-
[05:43] <tripelbb> moonchild, I did cntl-F for .purple
[05:43] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Format my 1G as Fat32?
[05:44] <Linuxpwns> Correct.
[05:44] <moonchild> Linuxpwns: it's a little more complicated than that
[05:44] <ac7ss> The_Pharoah: I am in a M$ environment at work, but use Linux for nearly everything outside of work.
[05:44] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Make sure that if you partition manually you create a BIOS boot partition (automatic partitioning creates one): http://grub.enbug.org/BIOS_Boot_Partition
[05:44] <moonchild> fork & clone are more or less the same call
[05:44] <tripelbb> moonchild, I have cured my stupidity. (blush)
[05:45] <moonchild> the difference is that fork's new address space is copy-on-write
[05:45] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: gonna use Gparted in GUI mode to do that so I get 2MB out in front of the partition
[05:45] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: For the record I'm on a live cd now, so I haven't gotten to experience "actual" Linux, which is why I'm trying to acess my internal.
[05:45] <ajin> TKS FOR YOUR ECHO
[05:45] <The_Pharoah> ac7ss: well most people would probably use the google netbook if they only go on facebook and twitter
[05:45] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: I mean external
[05:45] <The_Pharoah> ac7ss: or an ipad
[05:45] <dave_cave10-10> guys help, im in the middle of a raid in WOW and i restarted my computer after deleted Ubuntu a few days ago and forgot, now it messed up grub, im at a grub rescue screen and i need to boot into windows 7 please someone send me a privite message and help
[05:45] <Linuxpwns> moonchild: I see. Clone just uses more address space?
[05:46] <moonchild> Linuxpwns: clone is lower-level than fork
[05:46] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: I will make my CF card /boot as I've been doing. Seems like I shouldn't have issues this way. Is there anything special I have to do in the installer to make sure the CF card is /boot? After installing do I modify fstab? seems like the right way to do things.
[05:46] <Linuxpwns> Aah.
[05:46] <ajin> dave_cave:
[05:46] <moonchild> and used for threading & forking
[05:46] <ajin> i can help
[05:47] <Chr|s> how do I share a wifi connection, with the nic, connected to the router, so ppl can connect to it
[05:47] <moonchild> plus clone isn't portable across different unixes
[05:48] <ac7ss> Chris: I take it the router is not WiFi?
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> The_Pharoah: or a cheap lappy with xpud :)
[05:48] <soreau> Chr|s: hostapd
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> !ics | Chr|s
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Just create a partition on the CF card and set its mountpoint to /boot/ and you won't need to do any fstab modification.
[05:48] <moonchild> funny, I just spent 2 weekends wrestling with the router issue
[05:49] <Linuxpwns> moonchild: Thanks for the info.
[05:49] <moonchild> ...trying to undo everything that NetworkManager does poorly :P
[05:50] <ac7ss> moonchild: configure ifup. :) use iwconfig and ifconfig.
[05:50] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Format my 1G as Fat32? I don't want to format my Linux partition on my external again.
[05:50] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: I see.
[05:50] <moonchild> ac7ss: yeah, I have a bit more that I needed to do than that :)
[05:51] <moonchild> now I'm slogging through NFS head
[05:51] <Linuxpwns> joeyr:  You used a live cd to install ubuntu to your external drive correct?
[05:51] <moonchild> *hell
[05:51] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: mountpoint? The way I did it before was to boot from the CF card and I think  or something and that loaded the RAID1. I don't know exactly what I did. But something like that. I'm switching this system from the one that had the GRUB problems. I'm sure you remember it :P
[05:52] <moonchild> for the life of me, I don't understand why the UID of every file on my NFS mount is coming up as<PHONE_NUMBER>
[05:52] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: I help out with a lot of grub problems so you'll need to refresh my memory :)
[05:52] <Linuxpwns> moonchild: whats your take on Unity?
[05:53] <moonchild> unity is the netbook OS thingy?
[05:53] <Linuxpwns> It's meant for that but you can install it on Ubuntu Desktop Editions
[05:54] <moonchild> I'm mixed on it
[05:54] <Linuxpwns> Ubuntu 11.04 comes with it packaged I believe
[05:54] <moonchild> I don't like the way the selection browser hides the windows
[05:55] <moonchild> but I'm kinda an odd nut in terms of UI's
[05:55] <Linuxpwns> It has a few bugs to work out  but it has its ups and downs.
[05:55] <Linuxpwns> moonchild: Same. I'm a fan of the mintMenu myself.
[05:55] <moonchild> I actually prefer the ~1997 linux UI (fvwm) better than anything around today
[05:56] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: correct
[05:56] <Linuxpwns> not familiar with that hahaha I've only been on Linux for a few weeks!
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> moonchild: you can use devilspie (with gdevilspie from googlecode) to manually specify how app windows behave :)
[05:56] <moonchild> Linuxpwns: it kinda resembled windows 3.11
[05:57] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: http://badmarkup.com/gparted/ no? Something where GRUB was really compliacted and I had to chroot and I had hardy for the longest time, then I upgraded to Lucid finally when the version of my software came out and GRUB was still a pain. Then now I'm getting rid of that. I got 2x1TB drives so I wanna install Ubuntu 10.10 fresh and not worry about the builds I'd been using. I'm going at it without that special networking soft
[05:57] <Mrwootwoot> is anyone good with setting desktop backgrounds
[05:57] <Mrwootwoot> ?
[05:57] <joeyr> Anybody familiar with making an external drive with linux bootable?
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> Linuxpwns: i'm warming to it, although I prefer lxde personally
[05:57] <moonchild> ActionParsnip: I was honestly just looking ato the code for that last weekend
[05:57] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: When you pressed ESC (aka boot options) did your external drive show up as a device?
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: I can use gui and cli to do it, so yes
[05:57] <ac7ss> mrwootwoot: what part of it?
[05:57] <mod> whenever I try to apt-get update,  it fails to resolt mx.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:57] <mod> when i go there in my browser its fine
[05:57] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Yes but it said it wasn't bootable
[05:58] <Mrwootwoot> I'm trying to set up a background that updates
[05:58] <Mrwootwoot> but it's not updating
[05:58] <mod> its at the point now taht I cannot update my system
[05:58] <mod> any idea what I can do?
[05:58] <moonchild> ActionParsnip: I believe that using Esetroot should set it for you
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: like a changing background over time?
[05:58] <Linuxpwns> My favorite casual play-around-on-have-fun distro is tie between Mint/Ubuntu. My favorite distro is Backtrack 4. I'm studying to become a penetration tester. I love those tools.
[05:58] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, yeah
[05:58] <soreau> mod: Can you ping google.com ok?
[05:58] <The_Pharoah> When I log in i did something in terminal to make an appearance preference window open every time, how do i stop this from happening?
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> moonchild: maybe, i've always used devilspie
[05:58] <ac7ss> Mrwootwoot: are you using a script to change it?
[05:58] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, 1 sec and i'll get the link to show you
[05:58] <Mrwootwoot> no
[05:59] <mod> soreau, hah yeah and chat on irc lol
[05:59] <moonchild> mod: edit /etc/apt/sources.list & /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and change the 'mx' to a 'us' or a 'ca'
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: gconftool-2 -t str --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename "/path/to/some/image.jpg"
[05:59] <mod> sigh... N: Ignoring file 'getdeb.list.bck' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[06:00] <soreau> mod: ping mx.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[06:00] <Mrwootwoot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apnppJtWBJU ActionParsnip
[06:00] <The_Pharoah> how do i get rid of the appearance preferences window that opens every time i boot?
[06:00] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, i'm using a tool called Scheduled aATasks
[06:00] <The_Pharoah> its before i log in
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> mod: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/getdeb.list.bck /etc/apt/sources.list.d/getdeb.list               make sure /etc/apt/sources.list.d/getdeb.list   doesn't currently exist
[06:00] <Mrwootwoot> Tasks+
[06:00] <mod> ActionParsnip, was thinking of that myself till i saw it was epty
[06:01] <mod> empty
[06:01] <mod> something is really messed up
[06:01] <mod> i should've never gone to 11
[06:01] <The_Pharoah> Im trying to get rid of an appearance preference window that opens every time i boot
[06:01] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: eventually when I get this squared away I want to put multiple Linux distros on there. Backtrack sounds fun.
[06:01] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, i found a "fix" for it though but it didnt work.... here's the link to what i tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1649670
[06:02] <The_Pharoah> its at the login screen
[06:02] <mod> ok now that i deleted the .bck its working better... cannot figure out where its look for the mx address
[06:02] <soreau> ! 11.04 | mod
[06:02] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: Yeah hacking wep in under 1 minute is fun haha
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> mod: #ubuntu+1 for all natty support
[06:02] <mod> soreau... yeah you're telling me, heh
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: you can do the same with cron and a script..
[06:02] <ammy> Hi all i am using a ubuntu 10.10 and i wanted to know how i  can get the log of an application which i am running ?
[06:02] <The_Pharoah> which is easier to hack WPA or WEP?
[06:03] <soreau> The_Pharoah: This isnt a hacking channel. Ask #aircrack-ng
[06:03] <Mrwootwoot> i'm on day 2 of linux ActionParsnip  do you mind walking me through it?
[06:03] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Backtrack would definitley be fun on a laptop. If you know how to hack, you'll never go without wi-fi.
[06:03] <Mrwootwoot> sorry :(
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: http://joeamined.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/automatically-changing-wallpaper-relatively-to-daytime-in-ubuntu/
[06:03] <The_Pharoah> soreau: i was just wondering since linuxpwns was talking about it
[06:03] <mod> thanks all
[06:03] <The_Pharoah> soreau: can you help me get the appearance preference page off of my login screen though?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> joeyr: backtrack is offtopic here and not supported here either
[06:04] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip,  ok lemme take a look at that link
[06:04] <soreau> The_Pharoah: I dont think so..
[06:04] <ammy> my gdesklet is crashing , so i filed that bug , they asked my to  post the gDesklets log (~/.logs/*.log) and the names of any displays you had open? I am currently using ubuntu 10.10 . kindly help me out
[06:05] <ammy> my gdesklet is crashing , so i filed that bug , they asked my to  post the gDesklets log (~/.logs/*.log) and the names of any displays i had open? how to get it  I am currently using ubuntu 10.10 . kindly help me out
[06:05] <soreau> The_Pharoah: Do you remember how you enabled the appearance gui for it?
[06:05] <The_Pharoah> soreau: nvm i fixed it, google is awesome
[06:06] <hrezaei>  hi people! I'm sorry! I have some problems installing zend studio on ubuntu. where to ask my questions? can anyone help me?
[06:06] <The_Pharoah> soreau:what was the channel for hacking peoples routers? lol
[06:06] <soreau> The_Pharoah: There is none
[06:06] <halpbatman> aircrack-ng
[06:06] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: don't worry. I'll have more specific questions as I start doing this more
[06:07] <Linuxpwns> The_Pharoh: wep definitely... WPA requires you to deauthenticate an already associated wireless client on the WPA network. In other words if there is no wireless traffic you can't get a handshake which is needed to launch cracking tool
[06:07] <The_Pharoah> soreau: linuxpwns was talking about hacking wep
[06:07] <halpbatman> ?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> The_Pharoah: try ##networking or ##hacking
[06:07] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, is there a way to change the script to where it automatically downloads the picture from the website and updates the wallpaper every 3 hours instead of just 4 times a day?
[06:08] <Linuxpwns> ActionParsnip: Correct this is not the right place to discuss those tools.
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: I've seen stuff on omgubuntu which grabs images from NASA.  I reinstalled it as per the Ubuntu help doc for "Restoring Grub after Windows installation", but now when I boot I get not but a black screen. What gives?
[06:11] <syrinx_> :(
[06:11] <pbear> i was trying to do something and uninstalled the network manager. what i was trying to do was disable it at startup
[06:11] <mysteriousdarren> yes its normal, consider all the space and to install it all
[06:12] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, I found the script but I dont know how to manipulate it to update more often
[06:12] <Auriga> Q: Do we all get the compiz -- replace issue, or is it just me?
[06:12] <soreau> Auriga: compiz -- replace issue?
[06:13] <pbear> Linuxpwns: how would i use, for example eth0?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: it's in the cron file, those are the hours it will change at
[06:13] <Auriga> soreau, Are you new to Linux?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Auriga: works fine here