[05:54] <bugmagnet> I'm not sure where to ask this. I need an image manipulation tool. I want to give it a very large image and have it be able to be told (programmatically) where to move the viewport to, how long to stay there, and how much to zoom in or out.
[05:54] <bugmagnet> Is there anything like that around? I've been digging for hours


[21:44] <Zoom> Does anyone have any experience cross-compiling packages for arm from a regular ubuntu here?
[21:44] <Zoom> I'v installed gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi and downloaded the source for the package. But I get the Unmet Dependencies error when compiling, so I tried 'apt-get build-dep -a armhf MYLIB' but it says the dependencies "are not installable"
[21:45] <Zoom> How to get those dependencies for cross-compilation?
[22:10] <Zoom> At least, may be there are any QEMU images that I can boot up and compile a package quickly from a VM?


[01:08] <ChinnoDog> Someone with experience drilling holes into walls: What does it mean when my stud detector goes nuts at many places on the wall?
[01:10] <rmg51> you found many nails?
[01:11] <ChinnoDog> It is the electronic type of stud sensor, not the magentic kind
[01:11] <rmg51> or you have metal studs
[01:11] <ChinnoDog> So, ultrasound
[01:12] <ChinnoDog> If I move it vertically or horizontally it detects high density areas all over the place and also throws errors at other places
[01:12] <rmg51> then you found many studs in one place
[01:13] <ChinnoDog> Doesn't seem possible. They aren't evenly spaced
[01:13] <ChinnoDog> Perhaps I would be better off using a drywall anchor so I don't drill into anything important
[01:14] <rmg51> punch a hole, look in :-D
[01:15] <ChinnoDog> oh. It isn't really relevant. I don't know where my drill bits are
[01:17] <rmg51> still at the store?
[01:18] <ChinnoDog> I am not at the store.  It is silent on the ride in.
[13:15] <InHisName> ChinnoDog: are you insinuating that SEPTA rail folks are noisy?
[13:16] <ChinnoDog> idk. I don't ride SEPTA. Do they talk in the morning?
[13:16] <InHisName> Since their big price jack for surbanites, I haven't been on in months.
[13:18] <InHisName> I did ride subway twice this summer.  Not rush hour.   Few spoke to others.   Lotta equipment noise need to be a foot away to hear.
[13:19] <ChinnoDog> How much does it cost you? I think it is costing me like $4.65 just to come in here in the morning.
[13:19] <ChinnoDog> I forget what the trip back costs.
[13:20] <ChinnoDog> I can save money by coming in late but only a few cents by coming in early
[13:22] <InHisName> Train used to be only that.      Subway is one token, we buy 10 and save some.
[13:23] <ChinnoDog> ouch
[13:23] <JonathanD> needs to go down, not up
[13:23] <JonathanD> get people off the durn roads.
[13:23] <ChinnoDog> I save a few cents each trip because I have a non-disposable metrocard, but that is it
[13:26] <InHisName> Check the unlimited usage monthly pass.  May be way cheaper than 20 round trips, worth it if you travel 5x a week.
[13:27] <InHisName> Plus bonus of travel nights weekends no extra charges.
[13:29] <ChinnoDog> I think I already checked
[13:31] <ChinnoDog> yea, not worth it. The longest they do is 7-day fast pass for $47.
[13:31] <ChinnoDog> Thus far I've been putting $20/wk on my card and haven't run out yet.
[13:33] <ChinnoDog> Only other ways for me to get discounts is to be in primary or secondary school, be a senior, or be disabled. I'm not growing any younger, 32 is too young to pass as a senior, and being disabled does not sound very fun.
[13:34] <InHisName> AND its not 59 or 62 BUT fully 65.   I gotta wait some more too.
[13:36] <InHisName> I am at begining of R2 line at Warminster.   Do you also travel the full length of a line ?
[13:36] <JonathanD> I know I took the train from norristown to conshohocken the other day.
[13:36] <JonathanD> and it was $3 something.
[13:37] <InHisName> Coulda ridden a bicycle on the trail  !     V8 head smack time.
[13:37] <JonathanD> InHisName: need moar tiers.
[13:37] <JonathanD> *tires
[13:37] <JonathanD> also need bike, but thats sort of related.
[13:38] <InHisName> Count in family is 12 bikes.   4 are mine.
[13:38] <JonathanD> InHisName: my bike is in my parents storage unit.
[13:38] <JonathanD> it has 2 dry rotted tires.
[13:39] <ChinnoDog> I have a bike. It needs new tires, and maybe new pedals depending on how much I fear for my life using the current ones
[13:39] <JonathanD> what do bike tires cost anyway?
[13:39] <ChinnoDog> idk
[13:39] <JonathanD> coffee time.
[13:39] <ChinnoDog> I figure after it cools off a bit I will tote it over to the local bike shop and tell them to make it better.
[13:39] <InHisName> Haven't bought any in 22 years.   My stored ones are getting a little dried out now.
[13:40] <ChinnoDog> tires in 22yrs??
[13:40] <InHisName> I paid under $10 back then
[13:40] <ChinnoDog> My tires have slime in them. I am afraid my slime is dried out.
[13:40] <JonathanD> InHisName: so it's probably $50 each by now ;)
[13:41] <InHisName> I had like 20 tires when I got married in 92.  Riding LOTS less with foster parenting.
[13:41] <InHisName> Tires last longer when you ride lots less.
[13:47] <InHisName> Biketiresdirect.com has from $15  up to UGGGHA  $75 (probably only fits on racing bikes)
[13:48] <ChinnoDog> idk how to put tires on myself. Is that difficult?
[13:49] <InHisName> Can be, I can put them on with hands only.  A few tighter ones I resort to using tire irons to help out.   Getting them off is a bit harder.  More usage of irons.
[13:51] <InHisName> So many sizes, styles etc.  Need to be sure you have right one chosen to buy.
[13:51] <ChinnoDog> I think I"ll let the bike shop do it
[13:52] <ChinnoDog> I work on computers. Bike shop can work on my bicycle
[14:22] <jedijf> WOW. why did i wait so long to switch to chrome in the office? *big* difference
[14:23] <jedijf> on my only available option of crappy regular dsl
[14:32] <waltman> I've had to give up on safari on my imac at Drexel. Not only is it slow, but it somehow manages to slow down everything else, too.
[14:35] <jedijf> you know, i have been blaming vmware, but maybe i'll find that ff was doing the same forme
[14:39] <JonathanD> e/73
[14:40] <ChinnoDog> vmware makes a good scapegoat
[14:41] <JonathanD> so does jedijf
[14:41] <JonathanD> jedijf: stop making my computer slow.
[14:43] <teddy-dbear> jedijf: doesn't make computers run slow....
[14:44] <teddy-dbear> he makes them stop running :-D
[14:44] <jedijf> that's called learning
[14:45] <jedijf> i use epiphany mobile, maybe i'll try chrome
[14:54] <ChinnoDog> JonathanD: add more yeast. It works for bread.
[15:14] <jedijf> standing desk hack with milk crates
[15:25] <ChinnoDog> I need to change my legal name into something more unique
[15:37] <JonathanD> like ChinnoDog?
[15:38] <ChinnoDog> No, not that unique. haha
[15:43] <waltman> If I wanted to be pedantic, I'd point out that being unique is like being pregnant, you either are or your aren't.
[15:43] <waltman> s/your/you/
[15:44] <jedijf> i have always thought we shouldall take on our nicks as fictitious names
[15:45] <JonathanD> Works for me.
[15:45] <jedijf> lol. done huh?
[15:45] <JonathanD> Pretty much ;)
[15:47] <ChinnoDog> People only call me ChinnoDog at IRC related events. haha
[15:47] <waltman> People called me waltman before IRC :)
[15:49] <ChinnoDog> Before I was ChinnoDog I was Orion, before I knew there were actual people with that name. And occasionally I was SnowDog as Orion became common on IRC networks.
[16:41] <ChinnoDog> 10 points if you know where "SnowDog" came from.
[16:43] <waltman> The Iditarod?
[16:56] <ChinnoDog> nope
[17:33] <teddy-dbear> maybe the movie Snow Dogs
[18:06] <ChinnoDog> I don't know that movie
[18:07] <ChinnoDog> That movie is from 2002. I was using SnowDog in 1995.
[18:07] <pleia2> typical formulaic disney kids movie
[18:08] <ChinnoDog> pleia2: seen it?
[18:09] <pleia2> I wouldn't say that, it was playing on a tv in a room I happened to be in once
[18:13] <waltman> You had a pet huskie?
[18:13] <waltman> husky?
[18:13] <waltman> You ARE a husky?
[18:14] <ChinnoDog> I had a german shepard for about 3 weeks as a teenager. It liked to take me on walks. Aside from that, never owned a dog.
[18:15] <waltman> Did it like the snow?
[18:16] <ChinnoDog> idk. The 3 weeks were during the summer.
[18:22] <waltman> And that's why you were called SnowDog? Weird.
[18:25] <ChinnoDog> No. Keep guessing.
[18:32] <teddy-dbear> maybe he liked to eat yellow snow ;-)
[18:34] <waltman> It's cockney rhyming slang for quahog?
[19:26] <ChinnoDog> waltman: no
[19:40] <js2day> hey
[19:40] <JonathanD> hi
[19:54] <ChinnoDog> hi js2day
[20:17] <js2day> hey, was afk. new to irc here
[20:17] <JonathanD> welcome jedijf
[20:19] <JonathanD> welcome js2day
[23:48] <ayucuk> help
[23:52]  * ChinnoDog throws ayucuk a life preserver
[23:56] <ChinnoDog> must not be helping
[23:56] <ayucuk> lol
[23:56] <ayucuk> what is a life preserver?
[23:57] <ChinnoDog> The foam rings on a boat you throw into the water to rescue people
[23:57] <ayucuk> i just joined this and i'm trying to figure out how things work, i thought it would show some help, like in the terminal, if i typed in help
[23:57] <ayucuk> ok, why does it look different than regular messages?
[23:58] <ChinnoDog> Results vary based on the client. If you get the help from the server it is pretty much useless
[23:58] <ayucuk> ok
[23:58] <ChinnoDog> oh. Because it is an action
[23:58] <ayucuk> im also looking online
[23:58]  * ChinnoDog slaps ayucuk around a bit with a large trout
[23:58] <ayucuk> haha
[23:58] <ayucuk> yea, how do u write stuff like that?
[23:58] <ChinnoDog> Preface messages with /me to create an action
[23:59]  * ayucuk jumps
[23:59] <ayucuk> ok
[23:59] <ayucuk> i see


[22:52] <jonzbcc> anyone have opinion on the lightest one? (the reason I'm ditching gnome-do is some buggy graphics when it pops up)
[22:52] <singasong> ActionParsnip; For sure - got this one in my trusty notepad as we speak - Now if someone else calls me on this I can impress the heck outta of em'  Heh heh
[22:52] <mrec_> hi, does anyone have a clean ubuntu installation? I wonder if following file exists by default: /usr/include/linux/dvb/version.h ?
[22:52] <Roypa> hy how create 1 xhat channel? please answer me
[22:52] <Roypa> :-)
[22:52] <CShadowRun> jonzbcc: why not file a bug report?
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> singasong: well you learnt something today :)
[22:52] <jmyers> Redache: Yes, the printer shows in the drop down print dialogue box of all the apps I try printing from (firefox/openoffice/adobe reader/etc.)
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> Roypa: just join it, it will be spawned as long as users are in it
[22:53] <jonzbcc> CShadowRun: because, I don't think its a bug, I think its just me being obsessed with more eye candy..
[22:53] <OldSmoke> anyone using ultimate 2.5?
[22:53] <nwillems> I have a problem with my laptop(Lenovo S10e, Intel GMA950). When pluggin in my external monitor(LG L1952TQ) through VGA, both my main laptop screen and the external goes "blank", they stay on and I'm able to see my mouse on screen but the cursor is in frozen with "wait"-icon, I'm not able to restart the X server or switching to a non-GUI terminal. Is this a common problem with netbooks or is it something fixable?
[22:53] <Redache> mrec_: Yeah it does
[22:53] <CShadowRun> jonzbcc: well, ok :)
[22:53] <Redache> jmyers: Does it even attempt to print something? i.e. does it sound like it's starting up?
[22:53] <jonzbcc> CShadowRun: well, maybe it is a bug, haha.. I didn't think of that, this is a brand new computer, and shouldn't experience the same issues I"ve had before. Good call
[22:53] <mrec_> Redache: thanks
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> !ultimate | OldSmoke
[22:53] <CShadowRun> jonzbcc:  :)
[22:54] <jmyers> Redache: yes, goes thru all the motions, grabs paper, I can hear the print head running back and forth, the paper feeds thru, and I end up with a blank page.
[22:54] <Redache> jmyers: What's the Model No.?
[22:54] <jmyers> HP PSC 1401
[22:54] <singasong> ActionParsnip: That's for sure - With me Linux is a constant learning curve But I enjoy the heck out of it - Don't mind a bit - There's usually a work-around to found somewhere!
[22:54] <opticon> in terminal what is command to change dir to desktop
[22:54] <opticon> cd desktop doesnt seem to do anything
[22:54] <jmyers> Redache: woops, sorry forgot to start with your name.  HP PSC 4101 All in One
[22:55] <ortsvorsteher> opticon, cd Desktop
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> jmyers: got the latest hplip driver?
[22:55] <opticon> bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[22:55] <jmyers> actionParship: Yessir
[22:55] <lstarnes> opticon: cd ~/Desktop
[22:55] <lstarnes> opticon: linux is case-sensitive
[22:55] <singasong> ActionParsnip: Well this belongs in "offtopic" so thanks and c-ya
[22:55] <jmyers> bad typing, sorry.
[22:55] <opticon> ahh i see
[22:55] <ortsvorsteher> opticon, yes, true. because desktop does not exist, but Desktop exists. Be case sensitive "cd Desktop"
[22:56] <opticon> thanks
[22:56] <jmyers> ActionParship: 3.9.10
[22:56] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[22:56] <Redache> jmyers:http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-psc1401
[22:56] <joshjtl> can anyone tell me how to downgrade from ubuntu-ppa-staging?
[22:56] <Redache> jmyers: It seems like it needs hpijs or hpljs driver?
[22:56] <ae86-drifter> could someone *please* help, my wireless keeps dropping out on 9.10 on my new laptop, atheros chipset, i turned power save off.
[22:56] <Redache> Hard to read whether it's an i or an l :P
[22:56] <Akiraa> Is there a lightweight version of ubuntu that's more or less supported?
[22:57] <jmyers> Redache: taking a look now.
[22:57] <Redache> Akiraa: Xubuntu
[22:57] <jmyers> Redach: another challenge I have, is I'm running on an AMD 64, and seems like those packages are a PITA to find.
[22:57] <n8tuser> ae86-drifter-> no guarantee that wifi must be constantly connected
[22:57] <Fudge> hi I think two machines on the network have the same mac address, ones <IP_ADDRESS> and other .14 using d-link. is that possible?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> jmyers: tab complete nicks dude
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> jmyers: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_4100_mfp.html
[22:57] <spiffman> Akiraa: you can try fluxbuntu LTS too
[22:57] <alinuxfan> Akiraa, or use the lubuntu-desktop package and use LXDE
[22:57] <ae86-drifter> n8tuser, what do you mean?
[22:57] <jmyers> ActionParsnip: nice, I knew that worked in terminal.  Didn't realize it did in Pidgin
[22:58] <Redache> Akiraa: or try Crunchbang, which isn't officialy supported, but is a very lightweight distro
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> jmyers: for scanning: http://hplipopensource.com/node/302
[22:58] <jmyers> Redache & ActionParsnip: I have both of your links up now.  Will comb them for solutions before any more pestering.  Thanks!
[22:59] <n8tuser> ae86-drifter-> no guarantee that wifi must be constantly connected  <-- no guarantee
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> Akiraa: Lubuntu is on the way,Xubuntu is light, You can install a light DE on ubuntu to make it slicker like LXDE or fluxbox
[22:59] <alinuxfan> hey sapper, you in the army?
[22:59] <Redache> jmyers: It does seem that it is *possible* to get it to work prefectly, so I hope it does eventually :P
[22:59]  * b0xxy skull fucks Redache
[22:59] <ae86-drifter> n8tuser, i still dont know what your trying to say, you just said the SAME thing
[22:59] <jmyers> Redache: uugh, don't say that.   I was missing the hpijs package.  Installed it.  Gonna reboot and see if that fixes me.  brb
[23:07] <mrx0r> I have used ubuntu for 2 weeks or so now and I like it alot. I wondering if there is a way of getting the function "scale" in compiz without using compiz. (Scale is the one where all open windows/apps shows in a grid) because I don't mind flashy effects but I realy want scale since it's productive.
[23:07] <Guest62867> explain to me what is the purpose of PS2  ( i have read and reread ... still have no clue what's the PS2 is for ..." can someone explain to me what is  ... and when to use it?
[23:07] <selected_fx> hello
[23:07] <mr_m[a]n> SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPP
[23:07] <ikonia> mrx0r: I believe that is compiz only
[23:07] <spiffman> Guest62867: for playing playstation 2 games :)
[23:07] <ikonia> Guest62867: PS2 - in what context ?
[23:08] <selected_fx> can some  body help me to install neatgear driver un this fucking ubuntu
[23:08] <mrx0r> ikonia: ok. thanks
[23:08] <selected_fx> is it posible
[23:08] <ikonia> mr_m[a]n: a normal greeting is "hello"
[23:08] <Seeker`> selected_fx: watch your language please
[23:08] <Guest62867> Ps2  ...
[23:08] <selected_fx> oki
[23:08] <Redache> selected_fx: What do you mean by netgear driver?
[23:08] <selected_fx> sorry
[23:08] <mr_m[a]n> i aint no noral geek
[23:08] <selected_fx> neatgear driver wireless
[23:08] <mr_m[a]n> greet*
[23:08] <spiffman> Guest62867: you might mean the ps2 connection for mouse/keyboard, which was common before they were all usb
[23:08] <mr_m[a]n> spam city in here
[23:08] <Redache> selected_fx: Do you know what Chipset it has?>
[23:08] <Guest62867> spiffman .... i have a Unix book here..
[23:08] <ikonia> Guest62867: could you give us the context in what your asking
[23:08] <selected_fx> usb
[23:09] <Guest62867> it's telling me the difference between the use of PS1 and PS2 ..
[23:09] <ikonia> Guest62867: eg: are you trying to find out how to do something, or the answer to a question
[23:09] <Redache> selected_fx: What's the model no?
[23:09] <ikonia> Guest62867: ahh you mean the prompts
[23:09] <Guest62867> like PS1="C:\>"
[23:09] <Guest62867> i understand the purpose of PS1 ... but not PS2
[23:09] <Guest62867> yes  sir!
[23:09] <selected_fx> hmm
[23:09] <fasr> I try to install a driver for my tft-touch-screen but i become a error:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/341489/ can. someone help me?
[23:09] <selected_fx> what do you mean mudul nhumber
[23:09] <ikonia> Guest62867: well, that's not really an ubuntu question, more so if you're reading a unix book, try ##unix or ##linux
[23:09] <Sanne> hi, is fdisk supposed to list unformatted sata devices?
[23:09]  * Guest62867 has been trying to read and understand the world's of Linux/Unix
[23:09] <ikonia> Sanne: just lists partitios on a disk
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: browse for the errors and see what you find
[23:10] <Guest62867> well .. Ubunto is Linux right?
[23:10] <Redache> selected_fx: the model no. of the wireless dongle?
[23:10] <epinky> Guest62867: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/v5r3/topic/com.ibm.aix.baseadmn/doc/baseadmndita/bourne_shell_variables_used.htm
[23:10] <ikonia> Guest62867: it certainly is yes, this channel deals with ubuntu specific questions, not general unix/linux
[23:10] <Clueless> dang!
[23:10] <Sanne> ikonia: thanks. I just added an unformatted sata disk to my system, booted from another sata disk, and try to see the new disk. Can I do that somehow?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Clueless: andits UBUNTU, not ubunto
[23:10] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, i dont know how to browse for the errors, could you please assist me, this has been happening ever since i got my laptop and i need it for work, i have searched google for days
[23:10] <Guest52139> okay guys ..
[23:11] <spiffman> Sanne: sudo fdisk -l
[23:11] <ikonia> Sanne: you need to partition and format it to be able to mount it
[23:11] <selected_fx> NETGEAR WG111 Wireless-G USB 2.0 Adapter
[23:11] <ae86-drifter> please
[23:11] <EastDallasMatt> Clueless, what's your issue?
[23:11] <Guest52139> each time when I type this in  for example .. age=32
[23:11] <Guest52139> echo $age
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: copy some of the text from the terminal, then paste to a web serch engine and see what results you get
[23:11] <Sanne> spiffman: I did that, it doesn't show the new disk, only my old one (/dev/sda)
[23:11] <ikonia> Guest52139: you may want to try #bash - that's shell scripting, there are also guides explaining how shell works on tldp.org
[23:11] <Guest52139> i don't see anything on the screen ..just a blank screen .. it supposed to return the value of 32 right?
[23:11] <Sanne> ikonia: I don't want to mount it yet, only "see" the device
[23:12] <ikonia> Sanne: fdisk -l will show the disk, but of course no partitions
[23:12] <Guest52139> ikonia .. so this channel is a bit of inappropriate to ask right b/c it deals more in scripting right?
[23:12] <ikonia> Sanne: or gui tools like gparted
[23:12] <ae86-drifter> i get DMA failed to stop in 10ms
[23:12] <Sanne> ikonia: it doesn't show the disk. So something is wrong.
[23:12] <mesutcimeken> hi
[23:12] <ikonia> Sanne: was the disk in when you booted ?
[23:12] <spiffman> Sanne: hm... same with gparted? no other disks at all?
[23:12] <mesutcimeken> everybody
[23:12] <spiffman> hi mesutcimeken
[23:13] <mesutcimeken> plz i need help
[23:13] <spiffman> !ask
[23:13] <mesutcimeken> no sound
[23:13] <Sanne> ikonia: yes, and I saw it in the bios. I needed to change the boot device to the old one, maybe I somehow deactivated the new disk in the proccess. Might that be a possible reason?
[23:13] <mesutcimeken> icheck the web site
[23:13] <Sanne> spiffman: I have yet to test with gparted, thanks for the hint.
[23:13] <ikonia> Sanne: I can't see that as a valid reason, can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" in a pastebin please ?
[23:14] <Sanne> ikonia: sure, sec
[23:14] <mesutcimeken> i am new beginner
[23:14] <mesutcimeken> can you tell me again pls
[23:14] <Guest52139> okay guys ............ is the channel that I can ask about Unix/Linux commands ..
[23:15] <ikonia> Guest52139: this channel is for ubuntu support
[23:15] <VeGeTa-X> I have a ubuntu vmware 9.10 question or issue when I close the lid on the laptop I always get a black screen and the whole computer freezes; but I put the laptop in suspend mode it works fine and goes into suspend mode and also comes back
[23:15] <lstarnes> Guest52139: this is for anything related to ubuntu
[23:15] <Guest52139> i see
[23:15] <ikonia> Guest52139: type "/topic" to see the channel topic
[23:15] <lstarnes> Guest52139: #bash can help with shell scripts and commands too
[23:15] <VeGeTa-X> has anyone been able to figure out why this happends
[23:15] <ae86-drifter> VeGeTa-X, mine does the same thing
[23:15] <opticon> hplip-3.9.10.run thats what im installing now why does it take so long...lol
[23:15] <Guest52139> lstaness....thanks again.
[23:15] <VeGeTa-X> ae86-drifter its a pain the arrrsee
[23:15] <Sanne> ikonia: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m68f887c7
[23:15] <VeGeTa-X> lol
[23:16] <Sanne> ikonia: sda is my old disk with my os on it#
[23:16] <ikonia> Sanne: ah yes, I see onl one disk visible
[23:16] <ae86-drifter> i know..
[23:16] <Guest52139> thanks guys :-)
[23:16] <Sanne> ikonia: yup
[23:16] <VeGeTa-X> ae86-drifter have you been able to find any answers?
[23:16] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, I am going to try another kernel, do you think that may fix it?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> opticon: its compiling and setting up, let it bake
[23:16] <VeGeTa-X> I have searched on the fourm and the fixes on their do not work
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: possibly
[23:16] <mesutcimeken> ikonia , hi again
[23:16] <ae86-drifter> VeGeTa-X, no not yet, its a brand new laptop... i have other more important issues
[23:16] <rethus> anyone know a way to convert a mp3-file on commandline to 8000hz mono ?
[23:16] <ae86-drifter> lol...
[23:17] <opticon> it just finished finally
[23:17] <ikonia> mesutcimeken: yes?
[23:17] <ae86-drifter> rethus
[23:17] <flosch0815> rethus: ever considered lame?
[23:17] <ae86-drifter> install mp3demux
[23:17] <ae86-drifter> i think
[23:17] <renato> opa
[23:17] <jmyers> No luck getting it to work that way.
[23:17] <opticon> but dunno if hp device manager can pickup the printer its shared on windows pc
[23:17] <ikonia> !pm > mesutcimeken
[23:18] <shakaran1> Hi, I develop a app for watch streaming channels of TV and radio called Tivion and I need many translators for contribute (any language is good). If you can help me, please visit https://translations.launchpad.net/tivion
[23:18] <spiffman> any quick way to completely restart network connections? "/etc/init.d/networking restart" sometimes isn't enough, i need to reboot the computer
[23:18] <ikonia> shakaran1: please don't advertise in this channel
[23:18] <ae86-drifter> ifconfig eth0 down; ifconfig eth0 up
[23:18] <ikonia> ae86-drifter: that won't restart networking
[23:18] <LizardK|ng> xsensors just shows me a blank window; is it supposed to graph something?
[23:18] <mesutcimeken> i have a sound problem
[23:19] <jmyers> ok, I'm reading about foomatic-filters?
[23:19] <shakaran1> ikonia: ok, sorry, where I can request help for translate my app?
[23:19] <opticon> nope and it doesnt
[23:19] <ae86-drifter> ok OOOPS
[23:19] <ikonia> shakaran1: try relevant communtis
[23:19] <ae86-drifter> i tried
[23:19] <EoL{s}> Quick question, everyone. My system does not have a menu.lst in my /boot/grub/ directory. If it's not there, where is it?
[23:19] <ikonia> communities
[23:19] <ae86-drifter> grub.CFG!!
[23:19] <gigatar> is there a grub.conf?
[23:19] <ikonia> EoL{s}: grub.cfg for grub 2 in 9.10
[23:19] <shakaran1> ikonia: ok thanks
[23:19] <spiffman> ae86-drifter: that's good for resetting local ip
[23:19] <ae86-drifter> ah ok
[23:20] <computerex> Hello guys. I installed windows on hda1, while having ubuntu on hd5. How do I restore the grub? Windows overwrote the MBR. In /media/disk-1 (ubuntu partition) I can see the boot/grub folder and the stage1/stage2 files, but typing "find /boot/grub/stage1" gives me error 15. How do I restore the thing O.o
[23:20] <ikonia> !grub > computerex
[23:20] <mesutcimeken> no sound in my computer
[23:20] <flosch0815> rethus: sorry, the word 'lame' scould be misleading ;-) is suggest reading http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Audiodateien_umwandeln#Lame
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: you'll need to edit grub using the proper method to make the changes last between kernel updates
[23:21] <computerex> ikonia - I have followed a bunch of tutorials and only come here as a last resort before reinstalling O.o
[23:21] <ikonia> computerex: check the tutorial ubottu has just sent you
[23:21] <EoL{s}> ActionParsnip: All I want to do is set the timeout of GRUB to 0.
[23:21] <ikonia> EoL{s}: edit /boot/grub/menu.cfg
[23:21] <VeGeTa-X> ┬½~{ ae86-drifter }~┬╗  what type of laptop do yu have?
[23:21] <EoL{s}> How would I do that?
[23:21] <EoL{s}> Ok.
[23:21] <EoL{s}> Thanks.
[23:22] <ae86-drifter> VeGeTa-X, its an acer aspire/ AMD athlon x2 64
[23:22] <EoL{s}> ikonia: I don't have a menu.cfg.
[23:22] <gigatar> menu.lst
[23:22] <VeGeTa-X> ┬½~{ ae86-drifter }~┬╗  ok mines is dell latitude d505
[23:22] <ikonia> EoL{s}: is this a multiboot system ?
[23:23] <mataks> help please.. im using karmic koala and i want to remove the old kernels on my boot list but i don't know where i can find the grub2.. newbie here
[23:23] <ikonia> VeGeTa-X ae86-drifter if you want to chat about your hardware may be better to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:23] <ae86-drifter> EoL{s}, type locate grub and look for a nonf or cfg file then edit it
[23:23] <epinky> EoL{s}: check on /etc/default/grub
[23:23] <spiffman> ae86-drifter, any luck with getting atheros to work well on amd64 yet? i have the same issue, that's why i'm constantly restarting my network connections
[23:23] <ikonia> mataks: open the pacakge manager (synaptic) search for linux kernel and remove the uneeded kernels, it will do the rest
[23:23] <mesutcimeken> hi folks
[23:24] <mataks> ikonia,  ok thanks i'll try.
[23:24] <jsharpe> dj
[23:24] <jsharpe> ugh
[23:24] <trism> EoL{s}: add (or remove the comment from) GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 in /etc/default/grub, then run sudo update-grub;
[23:24] <ae86-drifter> spiffman, i am still trying, i just upgraded kernel to backports repo latest one and hasnt dropped out yet... but im waiting
[23:24] <jsharpe> I can't get dual monitors working
[23:24] <mesutcimeken> i have  sound problem and this page goes too fast for me
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: you set that in /etc/default/grub
[23:24] <computerex> Can someone please tell me why the heck "find /boot/grub/stage1" gives me error 15 when I know that grub is installed in hd5?
[23:24] <mesutcimeken> is anybody there whocan help me ?
[23:24] <alinuxfan> mataks, there is a wiki page for how to edit grub2, i had to make custom menus due to ACPI issues
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: editting the file is pointless, next time update-grub is ran the change will be lost
[23:25] <epinky> mesutcimeken: d├®j├Ā vu
[23:25] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, say your question all at once and see if someone replies...what kind of sound problem are you having?
[23:25] <jmyers> Anyone have an HP All in One printer they've managed to get working in Koala?
[23:25] <EoL{s}> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I just found a "grub" file in my /etc/default/
[23:25] <mesutcimeken> no sound
[23:25] <mesutcimeken> in my laptop
[23:25] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, sorry, i use grub1.5, it must be diffeernt?
[23:26] <gigatar> computerex: are you using hd0,4 or hd0,5
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: yes grub2 uses scripts and gives extra control and functionality
[23:26] <mataks> what's the command to check what version of linux kernel im using?
[23:26] <gigatar> uname -r
[23:26] <spiffman> uname -r
[23:26] <spiffman> :P beat me to it
[23:26] <mesutcimeken> sorry ?
[23:27] <jsharpe> So I downloaded Ubuntu, installed it yadda yadda, but i've got a problem. I can't get my 2 monitors to work correctly. I downloaded the nvidia drivers it recomended in a dialog box. and installed some X Server thing. I restarted yadd yadda. Now when I start non of the settings are ever saved. I can't get my other monitor to be used as a secondary monitor. It just does not work
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: read te grub2 docs all will be explained
[23:27] <epinky> !elaborate| mesutcimeken
[23:27] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, i just upgraded kernel, it hasnt dropped out as of yet....
[23:27] <erty> hi what is the oem editiopn. how it different to the main edition of ubuntu
[23:27] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, you can try looking in System --> Administration --> System Testing
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> jsharpe: try: sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings
[23:27] <EoL{s}> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help. I think I've found what I need/
[23:27] <mesutcimeken> yes i did
[23:27] <flosch0815> jsharpe: did you use 'sudo nvidia-settings'? sudo is important!
[23:28] <mesutcimeken> yesterday ichecked all sites for this
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> flosch0815: gksudo for gui apps duder
[23:28] <erty> hi what is the oem editiopn. how it different to the main edition of ubuntu
[23:28] <flosch0815> and then 'save to x config-file' .. or soimiliar
[23:28] <mesutcimeken> but still no sound
[23:28] <gigatar> jsharpe: also ensure you write the changes to Xconfig
[23:28] <flosch0815> ok, sorry, is used it that way
[23:28] <mesutcimeken> then i decided to come here
[23:28] <erty> i cant find relevent info anywhere to explain this its asap
[23:28] <crc32> so how do I configure grub in 9.10?
[23:28] <jsharpe> I thought when you quit it updates the file
[23:28] <jsharpe> that's what the baloon says
[23:28] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, when you go to the terminal and type in 'alsa-mixer' are any of the outputs muted?
[23:29] <crc32> I see all these weird .mod files in /boot/grub that look like elf binarys.
[23:29] <computerex> gigatar - My ubuntu partition is hd5
[23:29] <biabia> 2 days to upgrade duron 750 from 8.04->8.10->9.04->9.10  but it went great.  everything seems in order
[23:29] <Rockmasterb> ikonia: Why do you refer any questions regarding developing applications or help doing so as "<ikonia> shakaran1: please don't advertise in this channel" ?
[23:29] <mesutcimeken> just a second
[23:29] <crc32> I can't disable gdm sysv-rc-conf says gdm is already disabled.
[23:29] <erty> alinuxfan its alsamixer
[23:29] <selected_fx> can any body hellp me to install neatgear usb wireless driver
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> biabia: why not just clean install 9.10. Faster
[23:29] <mesutcimeken> no no muted
[23:29] <ikonia> Rockmasterb: because this is ubuntu support, not an application translation channel
[23:29] <Rockmasterb> ikonia: Dont do that.
[23:29] <mesutcimeken> all open
[23:29] <Rockmasterb> ikonia: Dont do that.
[23:30] <gigatar> computerex:  can you pastebin your grub.conf file
[23:30] <biabia> ActionParsnip: i didnt want to chance losing any of my data
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> selected_fx: sudo lshw -C network    will get you started, use the product line
[23:30] <ikonia> Rockmasterb: that is the channels policy, if you would like to discuss it please join #ubuntu-ops
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> biabia: use you backups
[23:30] <erty> hello any explanatiopns would be of help atm
[23:30] <mesutcimeken> i guess the problem is about alsa
[23:30] <erty> probably simple to you but i need this asap
[23:30] <mrx0r> when I watch movies I sometimes get a horiziontel line that quickly shows up and then disapers. The video is smooth and the audio is great it's just this annoying line that keeps appering from time to time. If the camera in the video is still this never happends but it happends when alot of stuff is chaning like when the camera in the video is filming from left to right (and vice versa). Any known solution? I am using gnom
[23:30] <flosch0815> jsharpe: Balloon? never saw that.. you must explicitly save that in your 'xserver display configuration' submenu
[23:30] <erty> !OEM
[23:30] <crc32> Hey I just went from 8.04 to 9.10 and nothing is recognizable. How do I disable the gdm login? How do I disable the splash screen? Where is my menu.lst file? Whats with all these ELF binaries I have installed in /boot/grub?
[23:30] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, did you run the System Testing in System --> Administration?
[23:30] <ikonia> erty: it's for people wanting to instlal as oem vedors https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[23:31] <ae86-drifter> or you could move everything to /home nad reinstall distro on /
[23:31] <erty> !oem
[23:31] <flosch0815> at least thats the way it works for me
[23:31] <spiffman> crc32: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 grub2 is pretty weird, i agree
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> crc32: you can't upgrade fom 8.04 to 9.10, you have to upgrade relese by release
[23:31] <Rockmasterb> ikonia: Its a very effective way of telling coders that "you" do not want them to be coding for you. So, if you dont know the answer, please dont say anything.
[23:31] <mesutcimeken> now i am doing again
[23:32] <mesutcimeken> just a second plz
[23:32] <tailsthefox> .j #linuxmint-help
[23:32] <ikonia> Rockmasterb: it's the channels policy, if you want to discuss it, please join #ubuntu-ops
[23:32] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, ok
[23:32] <flosch0815> but you have to make sure, the nvidia-settings is run with superuser privileges to be able so save to xorg.conf
[23:32] <Rockmasterb> ikonia: I just changed the policy.
[23:32] <conia> Hey guys, I'm having problems coming out of suspend, and have been reading up what to do. I've been trying the pm_trace method, but when I reboot after a failed resume, my clock is correct. That isn't supposed to be the case after a pm_trace, is it?
[23:32] <IdleOne> lol
[23:32] <spiffman> whoa
[23:32] <tailsthefox> I cannot install skype
[23:33] <IdleOne> !skype | tailsthefox
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> crc32: if you uninstall xsplash and usplash you will remove the splashes
[23:33] <timbojimbo> hey I installed my brother printer driver the other day, but the printer still won't work. It says it is recieving data and ubuntu says it sent the data, but nothing ever happens. any ideas?
[23:33] <kingdong> hi folks
[23:33] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, ever since i upgraded kernel, i get full strength (5/5 bars) for the wireless connection, where as before i was only getting 1 or 2 / 5, what would this indicate??
[23:33] <kingdong> someone told me that ubuntu was especially designed for black peoples, is that true ?
[23:33] <IdleOne> !ot | kingdong
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: the new kernel has something yuo need
[23:34] <crc32> ACtionPArsnip: Ok but where is the menu.lst file?
[23:34] <erty> !oem
[23:34] <coz_> ae86-drifter,  get serious
[23:34] <computerex> gigatar - http://pastebin.com/m6c29f76a
[23:34] <epinky> timbojimbo: what kind of printer is it?
[23:34] <erty> !automate
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> crc32: grub2 doesnt have it, it uses scripts to generate /boot/grub/grub.cfg   to make changes to it you need to edit the config files then run: sudo update-grub
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | crc32
[23:35] <timbojimbo> epinky, brother MFC-240C
[23:35] <erty> i am pritty stuck what is oem instalation compared with main instalation please
[23:35] <karma_police> i'm trying to delete entries in my grub bootloader.. i have like 6 different ubuntu entries
[23:35] <ae86-drifter> timbojimbo, i can help you with brother printers
[23:35] <graingert> erty it's for oem's
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> crc32: if you upgraded directly from 8.04 to 9.10 you will most likely get a tonne of problems
[23:35] <graingert> erty it's an automated installscript
[23:35] <crc32> AcionParsnip: So now grub is no better then LILO?
[23:35] <karma_police> i have startup manager but i don't see an option to edit
[23:35] <timbojimbo> ae86-drifter, did you read my question above?
[23:35] <graingert> erty for dell mainly
[23:35] <IdleOne> erty: OEM installation install ubuntu but does not ask you to set a user name or password. On the first boot the user will be asked to provide that information
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> crc32: it never was
[23:35] <crc32> ActionParsnip: I did a clean install and I don't recognize anything
[23:36] <spiffman> karma_police: uninstall the old kernels that you don't use through synaptic
[23:36] <ikonia> erty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[23:36] <timbojimbo> ae86-drifter, hey I installed my brother printer driver the other day, but the printer still won't work. It says it is recieving data and ubuntu says it sent the data, but nothing ever happens. any ideas?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> crc32: bith are decent bootloaders
[23:36] <ae86-drifter> timbojimbo, did you install the PPD file? are you using the cupswrapper driver or the LPR driver??
[23:36] <timbojimbo> ae86-drifter, I installed both
[23:36] <Flannel> erty, IdleOne: On the first boot (after you choose)--so you can boot and set it up (install programs, configure whatever) before handing it off to an end user
[23:36] <biabia> the language packs were upgraded and i dont know which keyboard input method system to select
[23:36] <timbojimbo> ae86-drifter, I did not install a pdd file
[23:36] <luismendes> hello, how can I hear my own mic in ubuntu 9.10? input levels go up when I speak, in sound preferences, but I cannot hear myself. thanks
[23:37] <biabia> ibus, scim etc
[23:37] <crc32> ActionParsnip: One of the selling points of grub was you could edit the config and just reboot with out any suproses. IE running lilo after editing the confs confused a lot of users.
[23:37] <gigatar> computerex:  can you run "sudo vol_id --uuid /dev/hda5 or sda5"
[23:37] <ae86-drifter> open synaptic and install brother-printers-common
[23:37] <graingert> luismendes, this is a silly idea
[23:37] <Locksterc> icoonia
[23:37] <graingert> luismendes, why would you want this? you would get massive feedback
[23:37] <ae86-drifter> timbojimbo, goto brother.com.au and see if theres a ppd file available.
[23:37] <luismendes> graingert, still I'd like to do it
[23:37] <graingert> luismendes, in pulseaudio you can loop it round
[23:37] <luismendes> graingert, how is it done?
[23:37] <graingert> luismendes, install all the pulseaudio cack, padevchooser and freinds
[23:38] <crc32> So Why does sysv-rc-conf show gdm as disabled yet I keep booting into a GUI?
[23:38] <erty> graingert what are oems
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> crc32: lilo writes to the boot sector i think. grub keeps its config in file (as far as I know)
[23:38] <graingert> !oem
[23:38] <graingert> !oem | erty
[23:38] <erty> ok i see
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> crc32: you can use oldskool grub if you choose
[23:38] <karma_police> i have ubuntu 2.6.31-16, ubuntu 2.6.31-15, ubuntu 2.6.31-14, and windows 7.. where do i delete entries at? i looked in synaptic and dunno what i am looking for.. lol
[23:39] <timbojimbo> ae86-drifter, I can't find brother-printers-common in synaptic package manager
[23:39] <ikonia> karma_police: delete the uneeded kernels from synaptic it will then get tidied up
[23:39] <luismendes> graingert, it seems I've already have it installed, how can I configure it?
[23:39] <graingert> run it and look in your gnome panel
[23:39] <karma_police> where in synaptics do i find the kernals?
[23:39] <graingert> luismendes, ^
[23:39] <Flannel> karma_police: linux-image*
[23:39] <trism> karma_police: the kernels are in the various linux-image packages, dpkg -l linux-image* | grep ii will show them
[23:40] <mesutcimeken> hi again
[23:40] <graingert> !kernel | karma_police
[23:40] <klappi> karma_police: search for linux-image but beware not to remove the latest kernel that works for you
[23:40] <mesutcimeken> i did my system check
[23:40] <mesutcimeken> no sound
[23:40] <mesutcimeken> it gave me a list
[23:40] <ga_sk8er> i need help getting my video card installed
[23:40] <gehzumteufel> How can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/d16c72a8c
[23:40] <mesutcimeken> but i didnt understand
[23:41] <karma_police> ty.. i think that will do it
[23:41] <gehzumteufel> I already have sqlite 3.6.16 installed, but it just doesn't seem to figure it out
[23:41] <ga_sk8er> i have a nvidia card thats built into the motherboard
[23:41] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, what does the command  'lshw -c Multimedia' give you?
[23:41] <klappi> gehzumteufel: sudo apt-cache search sqlite
[23:41] <magmarules> Guys i just found out my computer actualy has 4GiB of memory, but it seems to be only using 3. WHy is that ?
[23:41] <gehzumteufel> klappi: I already have it all installed
[23:41] <EastDallasMatt> ga_sk8er:  What exactly is the problem?
[23:41] <lostinspace_46> When using my hplip manager it says it can't print jpegs. It says it only prints .g3, .g4, .py, .bmp, .cpp, and .cxx files??
[23:41] <klappi> gehzumteufel: maybe you need the dev package
[23:41] <gehzumteufel> sqlite3 -version brings up 3.6.16
[23:42] <crc32> So is Ubuntu still useing GDM or is it useing runlevel 5 to boot into X
[23:42] <ga_sk8er> i need my driver so i can do the high end grapics in games
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> ga_sk8er: gksudo jockey-gtk
[23:42] <mesutcimeken> sorry can you say that again pls
[23:42] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, what does the command  'lshw -c Multimedia' give you?
[23:42]  * ikonia tests b0xxy
[23:43] <gehzumteufel> Ah I will check that
[23:43] <klappi> magmarules: do you use the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[23:43] <EastDallasMatt> ga_sk8er: have you gone to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers>and activated the Nvidia driver?
[23:43] <mesutcimeken>  description: Audio device
[23:43] <mesutcimeken>        product: IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller
[23:43] <mesutcimeken>        vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
[23:43] <mesutcimeken>        physical id: 14.2
[23:43] <mesutcimeken>        bus info: pci@0000:00:14.2
[23:43] <karma_police> whats the difference in memtestx86 and memtest + serial console? they are both in the loader also
[23:43] <FloodBot4> mesutcimeken: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <mesutcimeken>        version: 01
[23:43] <gehzumteufel> Yep, that was it! Thanks klappi! :)
[23:43] <magmarules> klappi, indeed i do not. And i was convinced i was =(
[23:43] <klappi> magmarules: thats the problem
[23:44] <EastDallasMatt> ga_sk8er: have you gone to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers>and activated the Nvidia driver?
[23:44] <mesutcimeken>  description: Audio device
[23:44] <mesutcimeken>        product: IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller
[23:44] <mesutcimeken>        vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
[23:44] <mesutcimeken>        physical id: 14.2
[23:44] <mesutcimeken>        bus info: pci@0000:00:14.2
[23:44] <mesutcimeken>        version: 01
[23:44] <FloodBot4> mesutcimeken: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <AOC> i accidentally deleted the user 'ssh'
[23:44] <magmarules> klappi, is there by any chance an easy way to do a 32 -> 64 upgrade ? =P
[23:44] <AOC> and now i can't ssh into my machine
[23:44] <ae86-drifter> AOC, lol
[23:44] <ikonia> magmarules: no
[23:44] <ga_sk8er> i think i did
[23:44] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, at least it isnt an Intel device...what about this command 'sudo aplay -l' that is an L
[23:44] <klappi> magmarules: none that i know of
[23:44] <AOC> does anyone know how I could re-add the user to get ssh access back?
[23:44] <crc32> So how do I disable gdm?
[23:44] <luismendes> graingert, ok but it looks the same as the sound preferences panel I already have
[23:44] <crc32> in 9.10?
[23:44] <Guiri> Is anyone familiar with Curl? I'm having scripting trouble.
[23:44] <Guiri> I'd appreciate any help
[23:44] <magmarules> klappi, so a fresh install is needed then ?
[23:44] <jmyers> OMG, ActionParsnip and Redache.  You are not going to BELIEVE what the problem wa.
[23:44] <crc32> sysv-rc-conf ain't doing anything.
[23:44] <EastDallasMatt>  ga_sk8er: YOu think you did?
[23:45] <mesutcimeken> yes i did
[23:45] <ikonia> AOC: sshd:x:112:65534::/var/run/sshd:/usr/sbin/nologin
[23:45] <AOC> what is the best way to recover my deleted user account 'ssh'
[23:45] <graingert> luismendes, yes but it is more powerful
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> jmyers: sup?
[23:45] <ikonia> AOC: re--add it
[23:45] <epsil0n> which is the best firewall for linux? (i heard of ipkungfu and iptables)
[23:45] <lostinspace_46> When using my hplip manager it says it can't print jpegs. It says it only prints .g3, .g4, .py, .bmp, .cpp, and .cxx files?? Is there some way to correct this?
[23:45] <ga_sk8er> im trying the command that someone gave me & its finding drivers
[23:45] <klappi> magmarules: sorry i dont know
[23:45] <AOC> ikonia, isn't there additional setup needed?
[23:45] <karma_police> can anyone tell me what the difference is between memtest x86+ and memtest x86+ serial console?
[23:45] <jmyers> ActionParsnip: Redache: I was nosing around in the settings, and it was trying to print the documents from the color cart ONLY.  Color cart is empty, and has been for ages, because I don't print in color!
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> !best | epsil0n
[23:45] <magmarules> k ty =)
[23:45] <luismendes> graingert, ok, but how can I hear my own mic? it looks the same
[23:45] <ikonia> epsil0n: this is ubuntu support - it was explained to you in ##linux a few minutes ago
[23:45] <computerex> can someone tell me how to fix the grub here: http://pastebin.com/m71e0a5c3
[23:45] <ikonia> AOC: it's that simple, I've just given you the parambeters
[23:45] <ikonia> AOC: sshd:x:112:65534::/var/run/sshd:/usr/sbin/nologin
[23:45] <jmyers> ActionParsnip: Redache: So I changed it to 600dpi greyscale from black cart, and printing like mad now.
[23:45] <Guiri> Can someone find out why this isn't working? http://pastebin.ca/1715053
[23:45] <graingert> luismendes, mess about with your imput and output streams
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> jmyers: nice one
[23:46] <mesutcimeken> List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[23:46] <mesutcimeken> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[23:46] <mesutcimeken>   Subdevices: 1/1
[23:46] <mesutcimeken>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[23:46] <mesutcimeken> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: STAC92xx Digital [STAC92xx Digital]
[23:46] <mesutcimeken>   Subdevices: 1/1
[23:46] <FloodBot4> mesutcimeken: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:46] <EastDallasMatt>  ga_sk8er: Why don't you go to System>Adminstration>Hardware Drivers and see what version of Nvidia accelerated graphics driver is activated.  Forget about the command line for now
[23:46] <crc32> So I rememer it used to be boot into run level 3 to avoid X11 then it was disable GDM since debian doesn't follow the runlevel standard. Now in 9.10 how do you boot into console?
[23:46] <ikonia> mesutcimeken: stop flooding the channel use www.pastebin.com
[23:46] <jmyers> WHY, would anyone in their right minds print a b/w doc with the color cart?
[23:46] <graingert> luismendes, I can only point you in the right direction for your crankpot schemes
[23:46] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, if you right click on the sound device in your taskbar and go to the hardware tab, what kind of device does it say in the dropdown box?
[23:46] <Guiri> Essentially I want it to click http://cp.shoutcheap.com/cast/client/index.php?page=control&action=restart
[23:46] <klappi> karma_police: thats a special device that i think you dont own
[23:46] <Guiri> But I'm not sure how to script Curl
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> epsil0n: there is no best, its an opinio, and an opinion ONLY
[23:47] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, if it is on analog change to digital and vice versa...then see if sound works
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | epsil0n
[23:47] <epsil0n> ActionParsnip: firewalls are comparable, for example i know th best for windows due to some test done on various sites.
[23:47] <karma_police> is there a way to remove that from the startup grub? i have two memtests
[23:47] <mesutcimeken> what is going on ? paste is forbidden is here ?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> epsil0n: only compared to a users needs, not all users needs are exactly identical so tere is no best
[23:47] <ikonia> epsil0n: youve just had this conversation in ##linux and you go the info
[23:47] <ikonia> epsil0n: this channel is for ubuntu support
[23:47] <ae86-drifter> !list
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> epsil0n: this is the same with ANY app and ANYTHING in life, for some people, even living isn't "best"
[23:48] <trism> karma_police: sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+; sudo update-grub; that will remove memtest from the menu
[23:48] <mesutcimeken> ok sorry
[23:48] <mesutcimeken> what can i do now for my sound problem ?
[23:48] <karma_police> ty
[23:48] <ga_sk8er> its still searching for available drivers
[23:48] <crc32> Any one know how to disable GDM in ubuntu?
[23:49] <ga_sk8er> how long does it take to find it?
[23:49] <crc32> 9.10?
[23:49] <luismendes> hello everyone! how can I configure pulseaudio so that I can hear my own mic? thanks!
[23:49] <klappi> epsil0n: thats like asking "what is better a knife or a fork?"
[23:49] <epsil0n> ActionParsnip: i didnt know linux has builtin firewall. Ok i need something secure and simple..   i use kde, guardog is a frontent to iptables? people told me about ipkungfu too
[23:49] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, did you go to sound preferences and see what the hardware is showing in the dropdown box?
[23:49] <epsil0n> klappi: forget about best, my mistake
[23:49] <JOKERinc> i just downloaded ubuntu... and it sucks monkey balls lol
[23:49] <IdleOne> !language | JOKERinc
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> epsil0n: guarddog is a KDE interface to iptables, its not the best nor is it the worst
[23:49] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, my profile setting is: Analog Stereo Duples
[23:49] <ikonia> JOKERinc: then don't use it. That language is uncalled for in this channel and not welcome
[23:49] <JOKERinc> how... is this better then xp :|
[23:49] <BouncingBall> JOKERinc, lul
[23:49] <mesutcimeken> i did and this dash is empty
[23:49] <karma_police> thanx trism. i think u helped me last time
[23:49] <BouncingBall> JOKERinc, install Gentoo
[23:49] <Guiri> Anyone on curl? I'm using latest ubuntu
[23:49] <EastDallasMatt> ga_sk8er: Let me know when it's done.
[23:49] <ae86-drifter> i sudo chmod 777 /var/www, so i can remotely sshfs into my server and edit files, i understand that this is a security issue, should i enable root login through ssh on the server or is there a more secure way?
[23:50] <mesutcimeken> no hardware overthere
[23:50] <jMyles_> Is there a way to synchronize audio / music between two computers
[23:50] <JOKERinc> whats that?
[23:50] <epsil0n> ActionParsnip: ok perfect then, i will use that. btw is iptables enabled my default? is it running now?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> JOKERinc: nobody is forcing you to use it, its you using it
[23:50] <EastDallasMatt> jMyles_: rsync
[23:50] <karma_police> i like ubuntu a lot
[23:50] <JOKERinc> i know, im trying to figure it out... patience right ;)
[23:50] <jMyles_> EastDallasMatt: Thank you - I'll check it out
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> epsil0n: yes, just unconfigured. if you use a router then i personally wouldnt bother, your call
[23:50] <jMyles_> karma_police: good to hear - what do you like best so far?
[23:50] <epsil0n> karma_police: try chakra linux
[23:50] <karma_police> i'm new to linux... been ubunting since october
[23:50] <EastDallasMatt> !info rsync
[23:51] <BouncingBall> JOKERinc, haha i thought you were actually informed about linux, if ubuntu is hard then you have lots to learn
[23:51] <epsil0n> ActionParsnip: k thanks
[23:51] <klappi> karma_police: good move
[23:51] <epsil0n> ikonia: thanks for your time, ;D ... again
[23:51] <spiffman> jMyles_ check out Pulseaudio's streaming audio
[23:51] <karma_police> it makes use of hardware  resources a lot better than windoze does
[23:51] <jMyles_> EastDallasMatt: Sorry, that's not what I meant - I want to sync the audio between two computers, like "party mode" - somewhat similar to Abelton or what the SquakBox does
[23:51] <spiffman> jMyles_ oh wait nvm
[23:51] <ae86-drifter> has anyone had any issues with playstation media server running on ubuntu?
[23:51] <JOKERinc> well, its the only os i could get installed on here for now, but i kind of like it. im just used to windows... someone told me i needed to not be a "Windows End User" lol
[23:51] <jMyles_> spiffman: oh?
[23:51] <gehzumteufel> Anyone here ever setup FUPPES?
[23:51] <ae86-drifter> i have setup fuppes
[23:52] <spiffman> jMyles_ if you want to connect to a server playing audio, pulseaudio can do that
[23:52] <JOKERinc> i take it, like every os, it takes getting use to...
[23:52] <klappi> karma_police: i started using linux in 1996 it was a whole new world
[23:52] <spiffman> jMyles_ and then stream the audio locally
[23:52] <jMyles_> spiffman: Mm hmm - the key though is getting the music in sync
[23:52] <crc32> How do I disable GDM at bootup. I want to boot into the console.
[23:52] <jmyers> ActionParsnip & Redache: Thanks for the assist.  I feel like a tool that it was just a setting.  I still don't understand why anyone would want to print B&W from their color cart.  But lesson learned, and gained some nice terminal / cups / forum crawling experience!  I'm sure I'll be back shortly begging for help getting my ati drivers going. lo
[23:52] <ae86-drifter> gehzumteufel, use ps3 media server instead
[23:52] <crc32> o 9.10
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> JOKERinc: exactly
[23:52] <karma_police> i bet it was back then.. no gui back then right?
[23:52] <spiffman> jMyles_ yea you'll probably get a delay
[23:52] <mesutcimeken> now should i install some audio program to fix my sound problem ?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> jmyers: well you got burned, but learned so its cool
[23:52] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, you have no hardware in the hardware tab? then maybe the module isnt being loaded
[23:52] <BouncingBall> JOKERinc, no seriously, install Arch Linux, using ubuntu after that will not only seem easier it'll seem stupid
[23:52] <gehzumteufel> ae86-drifter: Cool I will check it out
[23:53] <mesutcimeken> yees
[23:53] <JOKERinc> im just used to windows programs. it would be find if i could get into yahoo's voice chat, but im clueless on where to start.
[23:53] <jmyers> ActionParsnip: I always hated HP products too. :P
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> jmyers: some printers can make composite black
[23:53] <EastDallasMatt> jMyles_: I have my music share mounted to the same mount point on all my computers and use the same MySQL DB for Amarok on all machines
[23:53] <JOKERinc> fine*
[23:53] <ikonia> BouncingBall:this is ubuntu support channel, not push other distros
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> jmyers: hp loves linux
[23:53] <jmyers> ActionParsnip: I bought this cuz it was $30
[23:53] <EastDallasMatt> ga_sk8er: any luck?
[23:53] <ae86-drifter> brother needs color ink to print black! bastards
[23:53] <mesutcimeken> how can i load it ?
[23:53] <gehzumteufel> ae86-drifter: Do any debs exist that you are aware of?
[23:53] <karma_police> only complaints i have is flash issues.. its more on adobe's side than it is linux i'm sure tho
[23:53] <EastDallasMatt> ga_sk8er: any luck?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> JOKERinc: gyache will allow that
[23:54] <ga_sk8er> still searching for available drivers
[23:54] <ae86-drifter> u can get around that by getting a permanent marker and write over the cartridge where the sensor goes
[23:54] <ga_sk8er> slow piece of crap lol
[23:54] <jmyers> ActionParsnip: Well, I wiped windows for Ubuntu, so if linux loves HP, and vice versa, then I guess I'll soon become a fan instead of a hater.
[23:54] <crc32> How does one preven ubuntu from going into GDM at bootup?
[23:54] <JOKERinc> is that in the software center or something? lol, like i said, i just installed and am new, sry if im a bug
[23:54] <EastDallasMatt> ga_sk8er: still going?!?! :-s
[23:54] <ae86-drifter> gehzumteufel, its java based i think, you just run the script and it loads up, no installation needed, just dependencies
[23:54] <ga_sk8er> yes
[23:54] <xtjacob> Hello everyone! I've had a problem that is starting to get on my nerves. Ever since I upgraded to version 9.10 my Internet seems to be moving at a crawl. Websites takes forever to load and updates are slow. When I look at update manager it moves anywhere from 1 to 100% and sometimes I have to reconnect and its faster then it slows down again.
[23:54] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, have you seen this post: v
[23:54] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=452992
[23:54] <mesutcimeken> but  first days it was working , there was no sound problem then suddenly happened
[23:55] <ae86-drifter> gehzumteufel, search for it, goto the official website, its REALLY easy
[23:55] <gehzumteufel> ae86-drifter: Ah cool. Thanks for the suggestion. Although, does it ONLY stream to PS3?
[23:55] <karma_police> sounds like a lan issue
[23:55] <gehzumteufel> Yeah I just downloaded it
[23:55] <ga_sk8er> i just wonder if i should re-install ubuntu from fresh
[23:55] <computerex> Can someone please tell me how to reinstall grub?
[23:55] <jMyles_> EastDallasMatt, et. al.: I'm sorry, I guess I did not explain properly.  I don't want to share my music files across a network -that's easy.  I want to synchronize the audio, so that I can have computers in different rooms playing the same audio with it in sync.  This is obviously difficult due to latency, but several (non-linux) solutions now exist.  I wonder if a linux solution exists or is forthcoming.
[23:55] <ae86-drifter> gehzumteufel, i use it to stream to my xbox 360
[23:55] <xtjacob> Also i'm on wirelss
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> JOKERinc: please use my nick if you are addressing someone, see how my text to you highlights, tats not an accident
[23:55] <gehzumteufel> That was the exact reason I asked. Thanks ae86-drifter! :)
[23:56] <EastDallasMatt> jMyles...ohhhhhh
[23:56] <mesutcimeken> thanks
[23:56] <alinuxfan> mesutcimeken, oooh...so what changed between the time it was working and the time it wasnt? did you install any new programs or remove any?
[23:56] <karma_police> i had to blacklist my wireless usb adapter when i first downloaded 9.10
[23:56] <mesutcimeken> just give me a second to check it
[23:56] <JOKERinc> ActionParsnip like that?
[23:56] <jmyers> I guess before I bail, I could ask in here.  Is there a simple way to find out what ATI chipsest my video card has?  I THOUGHT it was a 4850, but when I install those drivers Gnome no longer loads.
[23:56] <karma_police> brb
[23:56] <JOKERinc> lol
[23:56] <Jordan_U> !grub | computerex
[23:57] <spiffman> jMyles_ here is your problem discussed with a couple solutions http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9trcz/is_there_a_way_to_stream_audio_from_one_computer/
[23:57] <EastDallasMatt> jmyers:  pull the card out an look at it?  lol
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> JOKERinc: exactly like that, you can use tab to complete the nick
[23:57] <jMyles> spiffman: wonderful - I'll give it a good look.  Thanks.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> JOKERinc: if you add this PPA to yuor software sources you can install gyachi using software centre: https://launchpad.net/~baudm/+archive/ppa
[23:57] <computerex> ....For the last time, I have already tried the conventional ways...
[23:57] <ga_sk8er> joker....if u have a 2nd pc, u may google search ur video cards model number
[23:57] <spiffman> jMyles no problem
[23:58] <xtjacob> computerex: what version of grub do you have installed?
[23:58] <lostinspace_46> When using hplip's device manager hplip says it can't print .jpeg, .odp, .doc, and several other file types.  How can I correct this?
[23:58] <Guiri> Curl still calls
[23:58] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, !@@$@# i just upgraded the kernel, my wireless is working great now, EXCEPT MY SOUND STOPPED WORKING
[23:58] <gehzumteufel> ae86-drifter: You mind if I PM you about this app?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: i can read lowercase dude
[23:59] <ae86-drifter> gehzumteufel, sure
[23:59] <JOKERinc> ActionParsnip Okay i will try that. thank you, 1 second
[23:59] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, sorry this is making me angry
[23:59] <jmyers> EastDallasMatt: was hoping to avoid that. :P
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: run: sudo lshw -C sound; lspci | grep audio   you can websearch for one of those to find guides