[00:00] <monsterco> multiHYP ?
[00:01] <multiHYP> yes, answer to your question was vnc under *nix is the equivalent of remote desktop on windows.
[00:02] <Loshki> multiHYP: vnc works 'on top of' X11, so unless/until you get the X11 server working, vnc won't work...
[00:02] <multiHYP> remote apps <- i dunno what that might be.
[00:02] <multiHYP> Loshki: X11 would be installed via ubuntu-desktop though, right?
[00:04] <monsterco> multiHYP - yeah, not Remote Desktop but rather RemoteApps. and all end users are windows clients
[00:04] <monsterco> you think I can at least use Ubuntu for as AD/DC?
[00:04] <jhutchins> Yeah, well, I gave him the docs on how to run a remote desktop over ssh, he apparently wants something else.  Not going to get far with an attitude.
[00:04] <k1l_> monsterco: take a look at ssh -X option
[00:04] <ggabriel96> hey guys!
[00:05] <Loshki> multiHYP: yes, X11 should be installed via ubuntu-desktop. And it should just work 'out of the box'. But you have 2 problems: using an EOL release means if you've found a bug, it may never be fixed, and 2) you're messing with a production machine and you don't even have a backup. I've fired sysadmins for less...
[00:05] <multiHYP> jhutchins: sorry, really cannot explain the issue for you.
[00:05] <ggabriel96> do u guys know how i can uninstall a web app, and then install it again? XD
[00:05] <multiHYP> Loshki: its my own, so no biggy
[00:06] <Loshki> multiHYP: ok then, back to reinstalling ubuntu-desktop and hoping it works this time then...
[00:06] <multiHYP> no way
[00:06] <multiHYP> i give up and find some other bypassing method to go through the filters.
[00:08] <Loshki> multiHYP: I'm only talking about running 'apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop'. Seems to me you've not much to lose...
[00:08] <multiHYP> space, running out of it pretty soon
[00:08] <multiHYP> 10GB total
[00:09] <multiHYP> I leave, might come back later...
[00:09] <multiHYP> cheers Loshki
[00:09] <Loshki> multiHYP: best of luck...
[00:09] <ggabriel96> anyone?
[00:09] <Loshki> ggabriel96: which app?
[00:10] <ggabriel96> Rdio
[00:10] <ggabriel96> i think it didnt install correctly, because steam was updating simultaneously
[00:10] <ggabriel96> i mean, at the same time xD
[00:11] <Loshki> ggabriel96: you should be able to reinstall it. How did you install it in the first place?
[00:11] <ggabriel96> i just went to rdio.com and it offered to install
[00:11] <ggabriel96> i simply hit yes
[00:13] <Loshki> ggabriel96: what OS/version are you running?
[00:13] <ggabriel96> ubuntu 13.04
[00:14] <Loshki> ggabriel96: it's a web app? Runs in a browser?
[00:14] <ggabriel96> yes
[00:15] <ggabriel96> i right-click it but it doesnt show the uninstall option
[00:15] <ggabriel96> just like the web app for livemail
[00:17] <Loshki> ggabriel96: sorry, I don't know much about web apps. You may have to ask on a browser channel. Does this help: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/04/get-rdio-app-in-ubuntu-13-04-and-listen-to-online-music/
[00:17] <whoever> hi all anyone here running xmonad  in gnome, if so need some help getting xmonad to start in gnome
[00:18] <ggabriel96> i'll take a look
[00:18] <histo> whoever: which version of gnome?
[00:18] <ggabriel96> thank u anyways Loshki
[00:18] <histo> whoever: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_Gnome
[00:18] <whoever> i have xmonad installed and to test i am using xmond --replace but when i do i loose gnome-panel and can't do anything
[00:19] <whoever> histo: was 3 now am on clasic
[00:19] <histo> whoever: there are direction on the page I sent you for using it in ubuntu with gnome
[00:20] <whoever> histo: i did 2.5 and stil I have that prob
[00:20] <whoever> histo: also xmonad doesn't seem to start at login with the [Desktop]
[00:20] <Stavros> hello
[00:21] <histo> whoever: did you read the site I sent you ?
[00:21] <Stavros> is there a simpler way to achieve unionfs-style directory aggregation?
[00:21] <whoever> histo: yes i followd that before comming here
[00:22] <histo> whoever: you may get more help in #xmonad
[00:32] <qmr197> When building a low-power Ubuntu system and using integrated graphics, is it better to go with Intel or AMD? Or is there no difference?
[00:33] <dr_willis> id say intel
[00:33] <dr_willis> video and gpu wise
[00:34] <Shadowandlight> im using VM and 13.04.... it runs a little slower then id expect in the GUI
[00:34] <qmr197> I've heard that Intel integrated graphics drivers are open source, but I'm not sure about AMD.
[00:34] <Shadowandlight> is there any drivers that i need to install?
[00:34] <dr_willis> Shadowandlight:  the guest addations  for the vm you are using perhaps
[00:35] <dr_willis> !vbox
[00:35] <cynicist> qmr197: there are open source drivers for radeon gpus as well as intel
[00:36] <qmr197> cynicist: I see. Do they work as well as the Intel drivers, though?
[00:36] <dr_willis> qmr197: depends on tge exact chipset
[00:36] <qmr197> I read that there are some issues with those drivers, but I'm not sure.
[00:37] <cynicist> qmr197:  I would say the intel drivers are better but radeon is quickly catching up
[00:37] <dr_willis> if buying new hardware id say stick to intel
[00:37] <qmr197> I don't play any games, so I'm leaning towards using integrated graphics.
[00:37] <dr_willis> unless you need the gpu power
[00:37] <cynicist> qmr197: for example there are changes in the latest kernel that add power management support to amd apus that drastically decrease power consumption and increase performance, see here for an article on it: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_radeon_dpm&num=1
[00:38] <cynicist> qmr197: that support may not be enabled by default in the next ubuntu release but definitely the one after
[00:38] <qmr197> cynicist: Thanks, I'll look into that.
[00:38] <martin1989> hello there
[00:38] <martin1989> does someone use softphone "Ekiga"?
[00:39] <dr_willis> ask the real question and see  martin1989
[00:40] <qmr197> But compatibility-wise, do the Intel IGP drivers work better than the AMD integrated graphics drivers?
[00:41] <dr_willis> compatible with what? .. id say intel drivers are less likely to be a problem
[00:41] <cynicist> qmr197: you would have to be more specific about which apu you will be using
[00:41] <dr_willis> avoid those dual.gpu setups also
[00:42] <cynicist> qmr197: in general though, intel has better support simply because they have less gpus they need to support and have had their open source driver for longer
[00:42] <dr_willis> for the least issues  stixk to chipsets that have ben out for a while..6 plus months
[00:44] <cynicist> qmr197: I would say in general that intel will give you lower power consumption but you will have higher graphical performance from amd
[00:45] <dark_> ok
[00:45] <qmr197> dr_willis, cynicist: Thanks. I was thinking of some of the more affordable CPUs such as the intel g860 or the AMD equivalents.
[00:47] <dr_willis> i dont even keep tradk of whats new in the video chipset area these days. i dont plan on buying a new pc or laptop any time soon. ;)
[00:48] <dr_willis> gotta love linux's abilty to work well with older hardware.
[00:48] <gethenian> yes, dr_willis, it's good for that
[00:48] <dr_willis> might get me a chromebook at xmas. but its hard to justify one. when i got my tablets  ;) except for the feature to turn the chromebook into a ubuntu-book  ;)
[00:48] <cynicist> qmr197: if you are looking for cheaper parts I would definitely recommend AMD, they have the performance/$ crown atm for integrated gpu solutions
[00:49] <cynicist> qmr197: I would only suggest intel if you are going for the best cpu performance possible
[00:50]  * dr_willis wonders what the price premium is for that.. $30 range? $50 range.?
[00:50] <qmr197> cynicist: I see. Although I'm somewhat more concerned with power consumption, though.
[00:50] <dr_willis> is iit worth the extra $50 to go intel and have no hassles.
[00:50] <dr_willis> qmr197:  why is that an issue/
[00:50] <cynicist> dr_willis: the chromebook is seriously tempting (especially since macbook airs don't play well with linux), but I'll wait for it to have support for 802.11ac
[00:51] <qmr197> dr_willis: I live in an area with a very unstable power and have to use backup power.
[00:51] <dr_willis> cynicist:  yea. but then i have to upgrade my router.. i just bought a ddwrt ($50) router. that dosent have ac. :)  but neither does anything else in my house.
[00:51] <dr_willis> qmr197:  raspberry pi - uses like 1W  ;P   but it cant run ubuntu.
[00:52] <dr_willis> i wonder how many W's the chromebook uses.
[00:52] <dr_willis> qmr197:  so you expect to be on battery for a laptop for a long time? or whatr exactly
[00:52] <gethenian> does it look like linux will make it to the pi anytime soon?
[00:52] <dr_willis> gethenian:  it does run linux. ;)
[00:52] <dr_willis> just not ubuntu
[00:53] <dr_willis> ubuntu needs a newer arm cpu then whata the pi has.
[00:53] <qin> dr_willis: Debian?
[00:53] <gethenian> ubuntu won't rn on my old thinkpad either
[00:53] <qmr197> dr_willis: It depends on the day.
[00:53] <dr_willis> qin:  that would be rasbian ;) yes it works well
[00:54] <dr_willis> qmr197:  i imagine intel video/cpu/wifi will have better power optimazations then amd.  since they tend to take linux more seriously.
[00:54] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I use two cloud services for syncing data across my various devices. One is dropbox and Other is Ubuntu One. But these applications always running in background drain my laptop's battery. I want to schedule tasks that sometime on weekends (when I am safely at home's wi-fi) dropbox and ubuntu one automatically starts and do the necessary syncing. Can anyone please point me in the right direction from where to start?
[00:55] <c2tarun> dr_willis, really? I thought AMD takes linux more seriously, after all they make graphics drivers for linux :)
[00:55] <qin> c2tarun: kill/start/kill with cron?
[00:55] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  you are thinking of the S3  gpu company. ;P
[00:55] <cynicist> dr_willis: here is a graphic comparing power efficiency between the two, http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/41/IMG0041609.png
[00:55] <gethenian> for power optimizations, youd need to look at the specs for what you are considering buying
[00:56] <dr_willis> buy some big car batteries and a dc-ac converter.. ;)
[00:56] <dr_willis> and some solar cells
[00:56] <c2tarun> qin, okay, I'll look into cron, thanks :)
[00:56] <veryhappy> hi guys, someone please give me advice to cygwin vs colinux vs andlinux/speedlinux and help me find a way a way to install or redirect me to another channel. thanks
[00:57] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  check whoch ones are still being actively developed. im not sure any of those are still that active.
[00:57] <dr_willis> cygwin is a very differnet solution then  andlinux,  .. i cant recall trying colinux or speedlinux.
[00:57] <veryhappy> dr_willis: that was pretty fast.
[00:58] <dr_willis> is cygwin still being developed? ive not messed with it in years.
[00:58] <veryhappy> colinux shall be cooperative linux with windows
[00:58] <dr_willis> andlinux - last i used it was 32bit only..  but that was years ago.
[00:59] <dr_willis> or just run any disrto you linke in virtualbox. ;)
[00:59] <dr_willis> like.
[00:59] <reisio> veryhappy: like, what is it you're trying to accomplish?
[00:59] <veryhappy> dr_willis: you might not know it: virtual != systems like colinux or cygwin
[01:00] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  and andlinux was running in some vm last i looked.   (qemu?)
[01:00] <veryhappy> reisio: running chosen services for linux in windows a "quite native way"
[01:00] <reisio> veryhappy: which ones? :p
[01:00] <veryhappy> andlinux was built on colinux
[01:00] <dr_willis> bottom line i would say is see which ones are still being actively developed and supported.
[01:01] <veryhappy> reisio: curious :D squid and cups perhaps i don't know which one next
[01:01] <cynicist> qmr197: hey I'm just curious what is the price range you are looking at?
[01:01] <reisio> weird :p
[01:01] <veryhappy> weird thanks luv u 2 :P
[01:02] <riceandbeans> how would you compare ubuntu against debian?
[01:02] <qin> veryhappy: wouldnt be more practical to run something netively on linux?
[01:02] <dr_willis> riceandbeans:  like a   goldwing, vs a build-your-own-motorcycle
[01:02] <reisio> ...
[01:02] <qin> riceandbeans: good
[01:02] <riceandbeans> dr_willis: no idea what that means
[01:02] <veryhappy> qin: please no advice from you. thanks.
[01:02] <t0ken> hey0, is there a tool to find the fastest/closest package mirror...from the cli?
[01:03] <reisio> riceandbeans: Debian has three branches of stability: unstable, more stable, actually stable
[01:03] <gethenian> debian doesn't abosultely require more thought to install, but it's advisable.
[01:03] <stairmast0r> i've installed the proprietary AMD graphics drivers, and now (still) the system seems to only be recognizing my onboard graphics (radeon HD6530) and not my discrete (HD6570)
[01:03] <reisio> riceandbeans: it doesn't use Unity or compiz by default
[01:03] <riceandbeans> reisio: this will be for a server
[01:03] <riceandbeans> no X11
[01:03] <dr_willis> riceandbeans:  you may want to be a bit more clear on what  you rare going to be doing with the system and what parts you are interest3ed in
[01:03] <reisio> riceandbeans: Debian is more appropriate for a server, IMO
[01:03] <qmr197> cynicist: Somewhere around 100 dollars. I was also looking at the i3-3225, because that one has the HD 4000 graphics.
[01:03] <dr_willis> riceandbeans:  what kind of server? and whats yur level of linux experience
[01:04] <usr13> dr_willis: Hands down, build-your-own is better. (In both cases.)
[01:04] <riceandbeans> dr_willis: I've been using debian since 3.0
[01:04] <reisio> it's not build your own...
[01:04] <dr_willis> riceandbeans:  then you should have no problems with ubuntu.
[01:04] <reisio> you should really have some kind of reason for switching distros
[01:04] <reisio> or you're wasting your time
[01:04] <dr_willis> riceandbeans:  so it will be a 'do you want the latest stuff' rolling release. vs a non-rolling release (ubuntu)
[01:04] <riceandbeans> reisio: not switching, just their docs mention supporting specifically ubuntu
[01:05] <gethenian> if you want no X, maybe centos?
[01:05] <riceandbeans> docs for a product I'm evaluating
[01:05] <cynicist> qmr197: that's funny because that's exactly what I was going to recommend
[01:05] <reisio> dr_willis: what're you comparing there?
[01:05] <reisio> riceandbeans: whose?
[01:05] <riceandbeans> 'certified' on ubuntu
[01:05] <reisio> riceandbeans: ah
[01:05] <cynicist> qmr197: I had considered haswell but those are substantially more expensive and ivy bridge graphics performance is really good
[01:05] <reisio> riceandbeans: and they don't mention Debian?
[01:05] <riceandbeans> reisio: nope
[01:05] <reisio> riceandbeans: really if it works on any distro at all, it can be made to work on any other
[01:05] <reisio> riceandbeans: Debian and Ubuntu are even closer than most two random distros
[01:05] <reisio> so I wouldn't worry about it
[01:06] <veryhappy> i think i'll take colinux but someone give me any hint?
[01:06] <veryhappy> please
[01:06] <dr_willis> i have to wonder how they got software 'certified' on ubuntu.
[01:06] <reisio> veryhappy: I don't know what you're trying to do yet
[01:06] <reisio> dr_willis: printers :p
[01:06] <veryhappy> reisio: i want to install colinux on windows
[01:06] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  you will have to try it and decide for your self.
[01:06] <reisio> veryhappy: well that pretty much sums it up
[01:06] <veryhappy> dr_willis: but first off i don't know if i should use xml or cofs and how to use it
[01:07] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  you dont know how to use colinux?  hmm. id think it has a homepage with some docs and guides.
[01:08] <dr_willis> its not really a ubuntu support question. but id also bet theres a #colinux channel
[01:08] <veryhappy> yea but i was looking last night and i didn't know where to insert the cofs parameters it always said "kernel problem"
[01:08] <veryhappy> dr_willis: good, dude, that's good. i'll try it
[01:08] <veryhappy> npe
[01:08] <veryhappy> nope, 1 guy is in there: me
[01:08] <dr_willis> !alis | veryhappy
[01:08] <veryhappy> plus the chanserv :D
[01:09] <stairmast0r> nobody knows about radeons on ubuntu?
[01:09] <veryhappy> nothing shows up
[01:09] <gethenian> radeons run on linux in general
[01:09] <stairmast0r> i have two radeons
[01:09] <stairmast0r> and ubuntu is only using one
[01:10] <stairmast0r> but lspci tells me about the second one being there
[01:10] <veryhappy> gethenian: aren't radeons the graphics cards?
[01:10] <stairmast0r> veryhappy: yes
[01:10] <gethenian> yes
[01:10] <veryhappy> how can they run linux?
[01:10] <veryhappy> gethenian: a graphics card running linux?
[01:10] <stairmast0r> radeons on ubuntu.. not ubuntu on radeons...
[01:10] <dr_willis> i think we need more details of what you are doing and what its not doing.
[01:10] <Ari-Yang> stairmast0r, what's the problem?
[01:10] <veryhappy> ok
[01:10] <qin> stairmast0r: You mean you pinned two cards? Maybe try to test them one by one?
[01:10] <stairmast0r> "pinned"?
[01:11] <veryhappy> dr_willis: do you mean me?
[01:11] <qin> stairmast0r: well, put into slots..
[01:11] <stairmast0r> one is onboard, the other is a card
[01:11] <stairmast0r> only the onboard one is being used
[01:11] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  well colinux is not ubuntu, or really relartrd to ubuntu support.. so ive not been paying much attention to you  ;P
[01:12] <qin> stairmast0r: so which one is working, and what `lshw` have to say
[01:12] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  the colinux web site might point to where they may have a more active irc channel. on some other irc server
[01:12] <veryhappy> dr_willis: well thank you really much ... :D
[01:12] <veryhappy> yea
[01:13] <dr_willis> im still not clear why you need colinux to run those services.  ;)
[01:13] <qin> dr_willis: would you pass the link to him? http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=colinux
[01:14] <gethenian> stairmaster, can you use both of them under any OS?
[01:14] <veryhappy> once again i represented myself being stupid. one look would have pointed me already to oftc
[01:14] <veryhappy> ok thanks guys, i'll look there.
[01:14] <ggabriel96> hey guys
[01:15] <veryhappy> take care you guys.
[01:15] <stairmast0r> gethenian: windows, yeah
[01:15] <stairmast0r> i only want to use the discrete card.  the onboard can just sit there for now
[01:16] <ggabriel96> i was installing some programs with software center, and i clicked close unconsciously. now it's bugged. what can i do?
[01:16] <ggabriel96> i mean, the progress tab is open, but there's nothing there
[01:16] <dr_willis> http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=colinux
[01:16] <histo> ggabriel96: define "bugged"
[01:17] <gethenian> stairmaster, can you disable the onboard video in the bios?
[01:17] <Shadowandlight> a program i want to install requres libmysqlclient18 but it seems to be an older library...  10.0.3+maria claims to need it though
[01:17] <Shadowandlight> and i need mariadb apparently to run this app
[01:17] <ggabriel96> the progress tab is open, the animation is stuck and there's nothing there (the installation is not being continued)
[01:17] <fleshworm> sud0
[01:18] <fleshworm> no me dejan entrar en utdhck
[01:18] <ggabriel96> oh
[01:18] <fleshworm> que les paso men
[01:18] <ggabriel96> now the progress tab is not open anymore
[01:18] <ggabriel96> just reopened and now the tab reappeared xD
[01:18] <fleshworm> pa completar la web de ubuntu anda bebiendo nyquyl
[01:18] <stairmast0r> gethenian: nope.  sadly.
[01:18] <riceandbeans> so from a debian man
[01:18] <ubuntivity> Hello, I'm trying to download an entire site using wget. How can I determine the total size (in MB) of the site being downloaded?
[01:18] <riceandbeans> in debian you have stable, testing, unstable, experimental
[01:19] <riceandbeans> what do you have in ubuntu?
[01:19] <ggabriel96> i'll try reinstalling the apps i was installing before
[01:19] <fleshworm> sud0 no me acueldo que canal era el que tu jangueba
[01:19] <Extrepid> Hey
[01:19] <reisio> ubuntivity: wget probably has something to get the headers only, which will have the file size
[01:19] <reisio> ubuntivity: curl has
[01:20] <gethenian> stairmaster, are the two radeon chipsets identical or at least close?
[01:20] <Vypor> Derp
[01:20] <Vypor> How is everyone
[01:20] <ggabriel96> hello Vypor
[01:20] <fleshworm> join #ubited_hack
[01:20] <fleshworm> l0lll
[01:21] <ubuntivity> Getting the headers won't save anything, right reisio?
[01:21] <fleshworm> se me jolvido el perioto
[01:21] <ubuntivity> reisio: but what if I use the --recursive option on wget? It examines every link within the HTML, but on headers how will it determine which links to follow??
[01:22] <reisio> ubuntivity: nope
[01:22] <Vypor> Who wants a ring0 rootkit for unbuntu
[01:22] <reisio> ubuntivity: headers aren't files, they're things you get when you request a file
[01:22] <reisio> Vypor: me
[01:22] <Vypor> Ok
[01:22] <Vypor> Pm's
[01:22] <ubuntivity> reisio: what about the links to be followed when --recursive is used?
[01:23] <fleshworm> if ure still using a industrial haf server for a factory object
[01:23] <reisio> ubuntivity: what about them?
[01:24] <ubuntivity> Will wget follow those links if I instruct it to only grab headers?
[01:24] <reisio> ubuntivity: why wouldn't it
[01:24] <t0ken> hey0, is there a tool to find the fastest/closest package mirror...from the cli?
[01:24] <fleshworm> cloack a binary for language recrusive periots then dspl
[01:24] <qin> t0ken: ping?
[01:25] <ubuntivity> If it wasn't getting into every byte of the HTML, how would it know what are the links?
[01:25] <Vypor> Who wants a 0day Gcc exploit for $120
[01:25] <qin> Really?
[01:25] <Vypor> yep
[01:25] <Vypor> im also selling linux roots.
[01:25] <fleshworm> whos said that
[01:25] <fleshworm> l0lll
[01:25] <Vypor> 1 for $1
[01:26] <Vypor> 100 for $100
[01:26] <Vypor> ect..
[01:26] <ubuntivity> Is there any online-tool that crawls the site and determines its total size in MB?
[01:26] <Vypor> ubuntu rotos ate 50mb
[01:26] <Vypor> roots*
[01:26] <Vypor> 50cents*
[01:26] <gethenian> ubuntivity, you could run your own web crawler bot
[01:27] <reisio> ubuntivity: why are you low on space?
[01:27] <fleshworm> some pack wpprs are full disclosed compillers now who knows them\
[01:27] <stairmast0r> gethenian: they're both the same series.  onboard is HD6530, discrete is HD6570
[01:27] <ubuntivity> No reisio, but I want to roughly estimate how long is this process gonna take, it's been relatively long time...
[01:27] <stairmast0r> the latter being "turks", the former being "beavercreek"
[01:28] <fleshworm> is this actually true the ubuntu forums lack pariods compability
[01:28] <fleshworm> ??
[01:28] <fleshworm> periods****
[01:28] <fleshworm> xP
[01:28] <fleshworm> grab a fork
[01:28] <ggabriel96_> hey guyd
[01:28] <ggabriel96_> guys*
[01:28] <reisio> fleshworm: huh?
[01:29] <reisio> ggabriel96_: hi
[01:29] <histo> ubuntivity: is it a site you host?
[01:29] <ggabriel96_> when i boot into ubuntu, a message appear while plymouth loads
[01:29] <ggabriel96_> it says something like cryptswap is not ready
[01:29] <ggabriel96_> something related to crypt something
[01:29] <ubuntivity> No histo, but I site I need to read regularily when I'm offline. Some personal development site.
[01:29] <ggabriel96_> and then i have to wait or manually mount it
[01:29] <martin1989> i have a question about xubuntu
[01:29] <fleshworm> voiP v6 r2
[01:29] <Andras_Bernard> Hello everyone, Andras_Bernardhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:29] <histo> ubuntivity: use wget to create a mirror
[01:30] <Shel_Columbanus> Hello everyone, Shel_Columbanushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:30] <reisio> ggabriel96_: sounds like encryption overhead
[01:30] <Manuel_Tendai> Hello everyone, Manuel_Tendaihere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:30] <fleshworm> it wasnt bthe web
[01:30] <Aristaeus_Fergus> Hello everyone, Aristaeus_Fergushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:30] <Jeriah_Pontus> Hello everyone, Jeriah_Pontushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:30] <qin> ggabriel96_: your enctypted /home, just wait or mount manualy
[01:30] <Shel_Nikola> Hello everyone, Shel_Nikolahere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:30] <ggabriel96_> reisio, overhead?
[01:30] <Seegee_> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:30] <Shel_Columbanus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Shel_Nikola> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Jeriah_Pontus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Manuel_Tendai> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Andras_Bernard> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Aristaeus_Fergus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <reisio> really, you're ready to run someone else's simple script?
[01:30] <reisio> that's amazing
[01:30] <ggabriel96_> qin: yes i have encrypted home
[01:30] <martin1989> how could i do that aplications starts automatically when i start xubuntu 12.04?
[01:30] <Seegee_> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:30] <Jeriah_Pontus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Andras_Bernard> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Shel_Columbanus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Aristaeus_Fergus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Sir-Litepool> wow you are amazing
[01:31] <reisio> !ops spam
[01:31] <Sir-Litepool> a++
[01:31] <Shel_Nikola> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Seegee_> wait
[01:31] <Shel_Columbanus> All floods killed
[01:31] <Jeriah_Pontus> All floods killed
[01:31] <reisio> bah, there's no !ops here? :p
[01:31] <ubuntivity> What are shose flood posts?!
[01:31] <Aristaeus_Fergus> All floods killed
[01:31] <fleshworm> donDE eshtara SUD0
[01:31] <Shel_Nikola> All floods killed
[01:31] <Vypor> LOL ITS DOWN.
[01:31] <Halyard>   !op
[01:31] <Seegee_> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:31] <Shel_Columbanus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Jeriah_Pontus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Aristaeus_Fergus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Andras_Bernard> All floods killed
[01:31] <Seegee_> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:31] <Shel_Columbanus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Aristaeus_Fergus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <ubuntivity> reisio: I thought you are one!
[01:31] <Jeriah_Pontus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Seegee_> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:31] <Aristaeus_Fergus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <FloodBot1> Seegee_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <Shel_Columbanus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Jeriah_Pontus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Shel_Nikola> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Shel_Nikola> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <FloodBot1> Jeriah_Pontus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <reisio> Halyard: why's it work when you do it :p
[01:31] <FloodBot1> Shel_Nikola: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <ggabriel96_> is that normal?
[01:32] <histo> !ops
[01:32] <FloodBot1> Andras_Bernard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:32] <ubuntivity> reisio: What is going on here?     Wow.
[01:35] <reisio> ubuntivity: they're trying to fill their lonely lives :p
[01:36] <moes> My sdb partition says I need to create a new partition table...what will happen to my sda partition with Ubuntu-12.04 installed on it if I create a new partition table
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> don't forget to tip the waitress
[01:36] <IdleOne> reisio: Please drop it now and get back to support :)
[01:36] <ubuntivity> mountain: how is it possible 'technically' to flood a site from within an IRC channel?
[01:36] <IdleOne> wilee-nilee: err
[01:36] <dr_willis> moes:  sdb and sda are differnt hard drives
[01:36] <mickey> someone needs to kill the floodbots! damn!
[01:36] <fleshworm> harvesting
[01:36] <reisio> IdleOne: which part?
[01:36] <mountain> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:36] <mountain> All gone :P
[01:36] <reisio> ubuntivity: the IRC part is just for the spectacle
[01:37] <ubuntivity> You mean it is LITERALLY just showing off? reisio
[01:37] <moes> dr_willis, They are different hard drives
[01:37] <Vypor> They were not flood bots .-.
[01:37] <reisio> ubuntivity: that is all
[01:37] <Vypor> they were actualyl dos bot
[01:37] <Vypor> they were actualyl dos bots
[01:37] <dr_willis> moes:  thats what i said.. so how can partioning sdb  affect sda..  it wont.
[01:37] <ubuntivity> Poor mindless creatures. They should have flooded their minds with something useful!
[01:37] <Vypor> asd
[01:38] <moes> dr_willis, Thanks i was not sure
[01:38] <dr_willis> moes:  when in doubt. backup imporntant data somewhere
[01:38] <moes> dr_willis, Have two back up
[01:39] <Inge_Chibueze> Hello everyone, Inge_Chibuezehere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <Holmgeirr_Honora> Hello everyone, Holmgeirr_Honoratushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <Byron_Bo> Hello everyone, Byron_Bohere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <qin> !ops
[01:39] <histo> IdleOne: they are back
[01:39] <mountain> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:39] <Hugo_Eber> Hello everyone, Hugo_Eberhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <dr_willis> and do it poorly i imagine.
[01:39] <zaapiel> anyone have nvidia drivers working with glx enabled?
[01:39] <Byron_Bo> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <ggabriel96_> reisio?
[01:39] <Milos_Domotor> Hello everyone, Milos_Domotorhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <Rodge_Zlatan> Hello everyone, Rodge_Zlatanhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <reisio> ggabriel96_: yes?
[01:39] <mountain> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:39] <Milos_Domotor> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <Rodge_Zlatan> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <ggabriel96_> reisio is that normal?
[01:39] <Vypor> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:39] <Rodge_Zlatan> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <Milos_Domotor> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <FloodBot1> Rodge_Zlatan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <Vypor> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:39] <FloodBot1> Milos_Domotor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <Rodge_Zlatan> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <FloodBot1> Vypor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <Milos_Domotor> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <Coburn> LOL
[01:39] <reisio> ggabriel96_: oh, probably, what'd it say exactly, again?
[01:39] <zaapiel> anyone have nvidia drivers working with glx enabled?
[01:39] <Coburn> geez
[01:43]  * Coburn marks Vypor with paint for EXTERMINATION
[01:43] <Coburn> IdleOne: ban that guy too
[01:43] <Coburn> he's the one that started the floods
[01:43] <IdleOne> should be better now
[01:43] <Niichan> I was wondering if you can remotely replace any linux distro with Ubuntu server like you can with other distros
[01:43] <reisio> Niichan: sure
[01:44] <vio1et> ubottu: tell Niichan about debootstrap
[01:45] <lucidium> I just updated to 13.04, and it appears the drivers for my card (the nvidia-96 package) have disappeared. How can I get them back installed?
[01:46] <qin> lucidium: via software center, look for nvidia
[01:46] <lucidium> qin, I did, and that package no longer appears there.
[01:46] <histo> Niichan: why wouldn't you be able to?
[01:46] <syn-ack> lucidium, Enable your partner repos first
[01:47] <Awaken> or live dangerously and go x-org:edgers
[01:47] <vio1et> lucidium: which version of Ubuntu did you update from?
[01:47] <lucidium> vio1et, 12.04, and I updated to 12.10 then immedietly to 13.04
[01:47] <usr13> vio1et: Obviously from 12.10
[01:47] <syn-ack> ah, a mess, it is
[01:47] <qin> lucidium: maybe your card was dropped from nvidia support, and you will have only opensource driver...
[01:48] <SteveWynn> Hey
[01:48] <usr13> qin: I don't think so.
[01:48] <qin> lucidium: or do as syn-ack said ^^
[01:48] <lucidium> I assume enabling partner repos are under "software sources" in the software center?
[01:49] <vio1et> lucidium: Ah, okay. nvidia-96 was removed in 12.10+, hence me asking. Some cards are perhaps supported by other nvidia drivers, otherwise use nouveau. I expect if you say your actual card in here someone will be able to figure it out; I don't use nvidia much though.
[01:49] <SteveWynn> I have a question about ubuntu
[01:49] <reisio> SteveWynn: yeah?
[01:49] <Vypor> how do i use ubuntu
[01:49] <phunyguy> !ask | SteveWynn
[01:49] <phunyguy> oh great
[01:49] <phunyguy> its bots isnt it
[01:49] <vio1et> Vypor: carefully :)
[01:49] <lucidium> I'm running a nVidia Geforce 4 MX 4000
[01:49] <Vypor> were not bots
[01:49] <Vypor> .-.
[01:49] <SteveWynn> So I updated my kernel and im getting a kernel panic.
[01:49] <usr13> lucidium: Are you on 13.04 64Bit or 32Bit?
[01:50] <lucidium> usr13, 32bit i686
[01:50] <SteveWynn> yes
[01:50] <SteveWynn> i have 128bit
[01:50] <ubuntivity> *Troll Alert*
[01:51] <phunyguy> IdleOne: you missed.
[01:52] <IdleOne> thank you phunyguy
[01:52] <usr13> lucidium: A laptop? Or Desktop?
[01:52] <Vypor> Both
[01:52] <lucidium> usr13, desktop
[01:52] <phunyguy> y/w.
[01:52] <Vypor> http=100|http://fbi.gov
[01:52] <Hugo_Eber> UDP Flood started on http://fbi.gov with 100 threads.
[01:53] <qin> Vypor: Why?
[01:53] <ubuntivity> Is Vypor another spambot?
[01:53] <phunyguy> Vypor is the culprit.
[01:53] <Nicolaas_Gruffud> Hello everyone, Nicolaas_Gruffudhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:53] <usr13> lucidium:  lspci |grep VGA   #Tell us what it says.
[01:54] <lucidium> usr13, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev a4)
[01:54] <L3mce> lucidium: can you please do that again but lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:55] <lucidium> L3mce, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] [10de:0185] (rev a4)
[01:55] <usr13> lucidium:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/290179/13-04-upgrade-with-nvidia
[01:55] <Milos_Sergej> Hello everyone, Milos_Sergejhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:56] <mdh> Please don't!
[01:56] <histo> IdleOne: can't this be automated with floodbot?
[01:56] <IdleOne> histo: probably
[01:56] <ubuntivity> Can't you just ban the IP?
[01:56] <IdleOne> histo: I don't have that sort of access to the floodbots
[01:56] <phunyguy> seems to be more than one IP, ubuntivity
[01:57] <qin> IdleOne: ban whole Brasil?
[01:57] <syn-ack> ubuntivity, that and they can be spoofed
[01:57] <phunyguy> slave PCs out there in the interwebs
[01:57] <ubuntivity> Oh, I see.
[01:57] <ubuntivity> Probably WinXP slaves, I quess!
[01:57] <L3mce> lucidium: the only proprietary nvidia driver you can run is 96... I just scrolled up to your original question. Let me look around.
[01:58] <phunyguy> !root > l0g1c
[02:00] <L3mce> sorry lucidium, what release  buntu are you on?
[02:02] <lucidium> L3mce, now i'm on 13.04
[02:05] <L3mce> lucidium: I can get you to a deb... but I don't know if it will go under your kernel. You wont be able to use unity etc... GL isnt supported or anything. I would frankly just stick with nouveau or better yet... let time move you forward a decade on hardware.
[02:07] <lucidium> L3mce, I'm upgrading this weekend anyway, just wanted some OpenGL acceleration until then. I assume then that that's not possible?
[02:07] <qin> L3mce: decade?
[02:07] <L3mce> Afraid not
[02:07] <lucidium> alright, no problem
[02:07] <lucidium> thanks for the help everybody
[02:10] <L3mce> qin: yes... a decade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_4_Series birthed 2002
[02:10] <santi> I'm trying to set write permissions to any user on the folder /var/www/projects/my_project/tmp (owner=vagrant, owner_group=vagrant) while logged in as vagrant (which I've verified by running "who am i"). Under these conditions, running "chmod 777" or "chmod 757" (with and without the -R flag) doesn't error out, but doesn't do any changes either. What could this be?
[02:10] <live95> if an iso image is too big to fit on a CD and your computer cannot boot from usb stick, how can you install the iso?
[02:11] <santi> live95: don't think so...
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> live95, dvd?
[02:11] <live95> nope, no dvd drive
[02:11] <reisio> live95: more complicated ways
[02:11] <reisio> live95: try the minimal cd image
[02:11] <live95> ok
[02:12] <santi> any ideas where I can get help on Unix permissions?
[02:13] <L3mce> santi: sudo chmod 757
[02:13] <qin> santi: ls -l /var/www/projects/my_project/tmp; chmod 000 var/www/projects/my_project/tmp; ls -l var/www/projects/my_project/tmp
[02:13] <qin> santi: and?
[02:14] <santi> qin: trying
[02:14] <stairmast0r> !version
[02:14] <stairmast0r> !list
[02:15] <stairmast0r> lol
[02:15] <stairmast0r> !!verison
[02:15] <stairmast0r> !!version
[02:15] <qin> !bot > stairmast0r
[02:15] <stairmast0r> !misc version
[02:15] <santi> qin: chmod 000 doesn't do anything to it either
[02:16] <stairmast0r> qin: version should give his supybot version...
[02:16] <santi> it's like the folder's immutable, but I own it!
[02:16] <santi> qin: it's like the folder's immutable, but I own it!
[02:16] <qin> santi: lsattr ?
[02:16] <qin> stairmast0r: unless someone decided to properly set it up for some purpose.
[02:17] <santi> $ lsattr tmp/
[02:17] <santi> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on tmp/test.txt
[02:17] <santi> qin: see my output above
[02:18] <santi> qin: BTW
[02:18] <santi> $ ls -l | grep tmp
[02:18] <santi> drwxr-xr-x 1 vagrant vagrant   4096 Aug  2 01:20 tmp
[02:21] <qin> santi: can you write to that dir, cd tmp; touch something;
[02:21] <santi> yes
[02:21] <santi> qin: yes
[02:22] <ggabriel96_> hey guys
[02:22] <ggabriel96_> i just installed Blueman applet
[02:22] <ggabriel96_> and now i have 2 bluetooth icons on my tray >_<
[02:22] <ggabriel96_> is there a way i can leave only 1 there
[02:22] <ggabriel96_> ?
[02:24] <qin> santi: cp tmp tmp2; chmod 700 tmp2; ls -l; does it work? too tired to figure it out.
[02:25] <santi> doesn't work
[02:25] <ChrisMaQ> is there any good substitute for skype on ubuntu ... my skype keeps crashing
[02:26] <santi> I even tried mkdir tmp3; chmod 777 tmp3;
[02:26] <santi> qin: I even tried mkdir tmp3; chmod 777 tmp3;
[02:26] <santi> qin: perms always end up as drwxr-xr-x
[02:28] <cmcki193> hello all
[02:28] <santi> qin: Nevermind... Destroying and up'in vagrant box again to see what happens
[02:28] <cmcki193> got a question: is there a way to choose a mirror so that i may have a faster one?
[02:28] <ggabriel96_> hi
[02:28] <hewhomust> cmcki193, yeah go to software centre
[02:29] <hewhomust> cmcki193, edit then software sources
[02:29] <rtward> \wc
[02:30] <hewhomust> cmcki193, then go to download from, other and click on select best server
[02:30] <cmcki193> hewhomust:  found it.  thanks for the help
[02:30] <hewhomust> np
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> ChrisMaQ, I see this bug fix for skype, not sure what version you have, and don't really use it. Not sure of any substitute myself. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/skype-push-out-new-bug-fix-update
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> ChrisMaQ, Google has a web chat as well.
[02:32] <ChrisMaQ> thanks wilee-nilee will
[02:32] <ChrisMaQ> will check it out
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> cool good luck
[02:35] <fleshworm> wee!
[02:35] <fleshworm> l0ll
[02:36] <p0wn3d> ChrisMaQ: check out https://perism-break.org/ for jitsi. It is a replacement for Skyp
[02:37] <p0wn3d> prism-break.org
[02:37] <cmcki193> so what are some good recommended software for ubuntu?
[02:38] <cmcki193> besides vlc
[02:38] <p0wn3d> https://jitsi.org/
[02:38] <dr_willis> for what tasks  cmcki193
[02:38] <cmcki193> dr_willis: just in general.  I'm just being curious
[02:43] <Frederick> folks Ive mangled my grub, is it easy to setup a new one from ubuntus live cd?
[02:43] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[02:44] <cmcki193> hewhomust:  just wanted to say thanks for telling me how to select mirrors.  I went from 16 kb/s to 150 kb/s
[02:44] <dr_willis> use the boot-repair tool  Frederick
[02:44] <hewhomust> lol np
[02:44] <Frederick> guys I must  admit im using archlinux but your livecd is easier to use in this case is it an issue?
[02:44] <reisio> heh
[02:45] <reisio> Frederick: using Ubuntu is not an issue
[02:45] <dr_willis> follow the archlinux wiki on fixing grub
[02:45] <Frederick> reisio: Im sure it is not, dr_willis yup
[02:46] <dr_willis> boot-repair msy be ubuntu specific
[02:46] <reisio> Frederick: how'd you mangle it?
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Yes it is, but it can re-install a Windows MBR if it finds one.
[02:47] <Frederick> reisio: being a genious as im I set it as an active partition in windows which seems to have damaged the data
[02:47] <reisio> genius*
[02:47] <reisio> oh, were you just in #linux? :p
[02:47] <lgc> Where can I choose character resolution on Unity?
[02:47] <reisio> Frederick: you talking about your /boot partition?
[02:47] <Frederick> reisio: yes I must admit i was, yes
[02:47] <Frederick> reisio: the place where grub was installed
[02:47] <reisio> Frederick: right
[02:48] <Frederick> can I use ubuntu to fix it?
[02:48] <kostkon> lgc, dpi? you can't. maybe unity-tweak or ubuntu-tweak has an option for it
[02:48] <reisio> Frederick: you can't boot Windows anymore?
[02:48] <Frederick> I can im on it
[02:48] <Frederick> fixed that
[02:48] <reisio> Frederick: so it's not set as active anymore?
[02:48] <lgc> kostkon: Thanks!
[02:48] <Frederick> nope
[02:48] <Frederick> but I think it got formated
[02:49] <Frederick> reisio: windows formats stuff as it seems >)
[02:49] <reisio> Frederick: was it a separate /boot partition (just for the /boot directory)?
[02:49] <Frederick> reisio: yes
[02:49] <reisio> okay, so not so bad
[02:49] <lgc> kostkon: Is that a new package?
[02:49] <Frederick> reisio: can I fix it with an ubuntu live cd?
[02:49] <reisio> Frederick: you just need a partition/fs/kernel/grub and grub-install, you can do it all from the ubuntu live cd
[02:50] <reisio> Frederick: but you should probably get the specifics from #archlinux
[02:50] <reisio> Frederick: I should say, you just need _at most_
[02:50] <reisio> because it's possible it's less complicated, I don't know what this active business is
[02:50] <kostkon> lgc, 2 apps tha allow you to easily customise further your ubuntu/unity
[02:50] <reisio> if you nuked all the data on the partition, you need all that stuff
[02:50] <lgc> kostkon: I can't find them in the 12.04 repos.
[02:52] <lgc> How can I test if my camera is working?
[02:52] <reisio> Frederick: #windows would know for sure, but it sounds like Windows probably installs its loader to the beginning of any partition you mark as active
[02:53]  * reisio goes back to nonsense
[02:53] <dr_willis> lgc try the cheese spp.
[02:53] <dr_willis> app
[02:53] <lgc> Thanks, dr_willis!
[02:54] <ggabriel96> guys
[02:54] <tones>     `
[02:54] <ggabriel96> im not being able to access rdio.com site in firefox
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, works here
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, you might share what access means.
[02:56] <dr_willis> ggabriel96: try a different browser as a test
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> I just seee apple windows and android there, and using a agent switcher as IE8, made it worse
[03:02] <Prufrock> Hi all.
[03:03] <Prufrock> How do I choose an older kernel version as my  default booting preference?
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> Prufrock, If on board at the grub menu.
[03:04] <RipresaTecn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/156700/how-to-set-default-boot-kernel-in-ubuntu-grub
[03:04] <mathfreak> Prufrock: If you have the older kernel already installed, you just need to change a setting in /etc/defaults/grub
[03:05] <mathfreak> Prufrock: The setting you want to change is GRUB_DEFAULT. The first entry you see on GRUB is labeled 0. The second entry is 1. The third entry is 2. etc.
[03:06] <mathfreak> Prufrock: Correction: the file is /etc/default/grub, not /etc/defaults/grub
[03:07] <iampoz> what is with the floodbot thing?
[03:08] <cmck193> got a problem.  installed wine, winetricks, and virtualbox and now i have no trackpad support
[03:08] <cmck193> after reboot
[03:08] <Ari-Yang> Prufrock, to choose an old kernel from grub menu, you have to make it appear. edit /etc/default/grub and comment the lines GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true (putting # before the line comments it)
[03:08] <Ari-Yang> Prufrock, if you're on 12.10, then from the grub menu select I think 'advanced' something and from there you can choose an old kernel
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> Prufrock, oh and you can set the GRUB_TIMEOUT= to 10 seconds or the amount of seconds you want the GRUB menu to be displayed.
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> Prufrock, after that, in terminal type sudo update-grub then reboot
[03:13] <Prufrock> Ari-Yang, mathfreak , thanks folks. :)
[03:14] <barrett> i'm trying to be able to chose xmonad from the desktop manager option at the login screen, it requires .xsession to configure, but it doesn't seem to be getting run
[03:14] <barrett> any thoughts?
[03:17] <Te3-BloodyIron> im trying to mount an nfs share via fstab, but i'm having a few problems
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> first off, when it mounts it gives the whole mount 777, and sets ownership to uid and gid 1001
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> a user which doesn't exist on the client
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> second off, when i try to add a second option in fstab to the mounting declaration, mounting fails
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> any idea?
[03:19] <convict> Trying to install ubuntu on my MBP 9,1 so I downloaded the AMD64+Mac iso and converted it to img and dd'ed it to my usb stick but when I go to boot it it just gives a blinking underline
[03:19] <Prufrock> Ari-Yang, Hi
[03:19] <hewhomust> convict, what os do you have?
[03:19] <convict> the regular amd64 iso dd's fine but the install has temperature issues so i was wondering if the amd64+mac.iso would help any
[03:19] <convict> hewhomust, osx and a win8 machine
[03:19] <hewhomust> ok
[03:20] <Prufrock> Ari-Yang, I edited the grub file, but I couldn't really find out how to change the default kernel choice.
[03:20] <hewhomust> convict, I have the same problem on and off it's just that the usb becomes inactive
[03:20] <convict> what do you mean inactive
[03:20] <hewhomust> convict, black background white underline?
[03:20] <convict> yea
[03:21] <hewhomust> convict, it just means that it can't boot from it
[03:21] <convict> how do I fix it? Is it an issue with the iso?
[03:21] <hewhomust> going to windows I have a good link for it
[03:21] <mathfreak> Te3-BloodyIron: does the user who is mounting have the same UID and GID as the UID and GID on the server?
[03:23] <rOOb> !iso
[03:23] <hewhomust> convict:hi http://www.pcwinboot.com/2012/05/20/how-to-format-usb-flash-disk-and-mark-its-partition-to-be-active/
[03:23] <convict> oh, you just need to mark the partition as active?
[03:24] <hewhomust> yes
[03:24] <histo> Te3-BloodyIron: have you looked at the mount options for nfs in man mount ?
[03:24] <hewhomust> convict:then it should work
[03:24] <Te3-BloodyIron> i've tried options that i know work
[03:24] <Te3-BloodyIron> like no_root_squash for example
[03:24] <histo> !mac | convict
[03:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> mathfreak: I'm trying to mount them in fstab, so I assume root is the user mounting them
[03:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> and there is no user with UID or GID 1001
[03:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> oh, umm on the server
[03:25] <convict> !mac
[03:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> on the client there is no 1001
[03:25] <histo> T3: man 5 nfs  will show options
[03:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> but on the server, i haven't checked yet
[03:26] <histo> Te3-BloodyIron: don't see uid or gid in there
[03:26] <Te3-BloodyIron> okay that's fine, but that doesn't really solve the problem of multiple options breaking mountinf histo
[03:26] <Te3-BloodyIron> im not declaring uid or gid on mount
[03:26] <Te3-BloodyIron> like when im just doing mounting option of rw, it still does the 777 and 1001uid/gid thing
[03:26] <histo> Te3-BloodyIron: I'm sorry ignore me I thouhg you were
[03:26] <hewhomust> Te3, have you tried just mounting it to a local folder?
[03:27] <Te3-BloodyIron> no, but i will now lol hold on
[03:27] <mathfreak> Te3-BloodyIron: the UIDs and GIDs on the server and client should match for NFS to work. e.g. if user 1000 mounts a directory owned by UID 1001, but the client has no user 1001, then the share will be labeled as if its owned by "1001"
[03:27] <mathfreak> As for having permission 777, I haven't got a clue. What's it look like on the server?
[03:28] <Te3-BloodyIron> yeah just doing a basic mount same thing, 777 and 1001 uid/gid
[03:28] <histo> mathfreak: that should be set server side
[03:28] <Te3-BloodyIron> the server isn't 777, i think server is 755 or 775
[03:28] <histo> Te3-BloodyIron: what's the share on the server set like?
[03:28] <Te3-BloodyIron> let me double check
[03:28] <Te3-BloodyIron> but i know server isn't 777
[03:29] <themhz> hello, anyone knows when pulling from github why I get "/git-credential-osxkeychain: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"
[03:30] <reisio> themhz: it found a ( it wasn't expecting
[03:30] <eaxxae> Extra (
[03:30] <reisio> heh
[03:30] <reisio> that is: exactly what it says
[03:30] <Te3-BloodyIron> it's 775 on the server
[03:30] <themhz> heh
[03:30] <Te3-BloodyIron> and root:media (a group i made on the server)
[03:30] <Te3-BloodyIron> so
[03:30] <Te3-BloodyIron> i dont know why the owner is 1001, since that's definately not the case on the server
[03:31] <eaxxae> If he couldnt read the error ...why is  he using github to begin with
[03:31] <reisio> github hosts anything
[03:32] <themhz> it's appearing in aptana when I am pulling, anyway though someone had seen this before
[03:34] <williamtdr> Hello. I am trying to install Ubuntu on my computer without any external media from my existing Linux installation. I downloaded lubuntu 13.04 and fed the ISO to unetbootin, and then booted into grub. Howeve, when I try to install or boot from the live CD, it gives the error behind the dots (if I press ESC): /dev/sdb: No medium found. and 'stdin: n
[03:34] <williamtdr> ot a typewriter'. After several minutes it gives up and exists to busybox. What should I do?
[03:37] <histo> williamtdr: use dd instead of unetbootin
[03:37] <histo> williamtdr: to create the installation media
[03:38] <williamtdr> histo: I cannot use any external media.
[03:38] <williamtdr> I am using a virtual partition on my hard drive.
[03:38] <histo> williamtdr: so how are you intending on installing I missed that.
[03:38] <histo> williamtdr: and what is a virtual partition?
[03:38] <williamtdr> histo: unetbootin allows you to virtually mount the ISO into grub.
[03:39] <lgc>  how can I configure my laptop so it goes into suspend mode when I close the lid?
[03:39] <williamtdr> Problem is, it doesn't work properly.
[03:39] <histo> williamtdr: so you are trying to boot the iso from grub?
[03:39] <williamtdr> histo: yes.
[03:39] <histo> williamtdr: md5sum the iso and make sure the hash matches what the download site says
[03:40] <williamtdr> histo: performing, one second.
[03:41] <williamtdr> histo: where would I find the sum for lubuntu ISOs?
[03:41] <histo> williamtdr: on the lubuntu site and lubuntu support is in #lubuntu
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> !md5 | williamtdr
[03:42] <williamtdr> histo: I can't find it on the sire.
[03:42] <trism> williamtdr: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/13.04/release/MD5SUMS
[03:42] <histo> williamtdr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[03:43] <histo> williamtdr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[03:43] <Kyzz> How can I go about changing my default terminal emulator to rxvt-unicode?
[03:43] <williamtdr> histo, trism: thanks.
[03:44] <convict> is the amd64+mac iso for ppc?
[03:45] <syn-ack> no
[03:45] <syn-ack> Its for the intel mac
[03:45] <williamtdr> md5sum matches that of the ISO.
[03:45] <convict> hmm, why can't I get it to boot? the normal ISO works fine but the +mac doesn't
[03:45] <syn-ack> Ubuntu PPC is marked as such
[03:45] <syn-ack> Well, until it's discontinued next cycle...
[03:46] <bruce_> i just installed ubuntu studio on a macbook pro and the cpu fan is constantly on... cpu is at 1%
[03:47] <bruce_> is there any thing i can install that will reduce this happening?
[03:47] <convict> I have the normal amd64 13.04 installed on my MBP and it runs extremely hot so I'm trying the +mac version but I can't get it to boot :/
[03:47] <bruce_> oh:(
[03:47] <bruce_> convict, why were u asking about PPC then?
[03:48] <convict> bruce_, was wondering if the +mac version was PPC which would explain why it won't boot
[03:48] <bruce_> e.g. MBP is only intel...
[03:48] <bruce_> ah! fair enough
[03:48] <syn-ack> convict, I already told you what it was.
[03:48] <convict> yeah, I set the partition as active
[03:48] <convict> still no dice
[03:49] <bruce_> syn-ack, is there an ubunu for an MBP that will not run so hot?
[03:49] <bruce_> ubuntu i mean:)
[03:49] <convict> bruce_, I think it's a mix of the fans not running as high as they should and the GPU being on constantly
[03:49] <syn-ack> bruce_, Theres a driver that runs in both Windows and OS X that controls that issue. AFAIK, thgere isn't a fix for linux
[03:50] <convict> welp, sounds like I'll be keeping osx then :P
[03:50] <kb3gtn> oO
[03:50] <bruce_> ah, thanks convict and syn-ack - so, its something we have to live with...
[03:50] <syn-ack> From what I read a couple years ago, prolonged usage without said driver can burn out your CPU
[03:50] <mrdeb> hi
[03:50] <mrdeb> is it true that 1204 lts has 3.8 kernel now. why
[03:50] <mrdeb> is it better
[03:50] <kb3gtn> new hardware support
[03:51] <mrdeb> u mean graphic card
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, I don't believe it does.
[03:51] <kb3gtn> optional install
[03:51] <syn-ack> Don't quote me, but I'm sure it's been fixed.
[03:51] <mrdeb> yes it does
[03:51] <bruce_> so how do people go about running ubuntu on an MBP? is there any version which this is addressed in?
[03:51] <mrdeb> i downloaded daily and it has 3.8
[03:51] <kb3gtn> yup.. thats the newest stuff
[03:51] <syn-ack> bruce_, Don't know, I stopped using Macs when they abandoned POWER
[03:51] <mrdeb> is it faster
[03:52] <bruce_> syn-ack - am trying to slowly migrate... maybe not the best way to do it:)
[03:52] <convict> lame... really wanted to use ubuntu too
[03:53] <syn-ack> convict, all I can say is research the issue. This was something I saw quite a while back. It may have been fixed by now
[03:54] <syn-ack> bruce_, The way I've done migration is to Just Do It. Doing it slowly never works
[03:54] <mrdeb> so lts will keep getting new kernel?
[03:54] <mrdeb> cool
[03:54] <convict> well, I would be able to find out if the +mac version of the iso has anything different to help out with the heat issue but I can't get it to boot so idk
[03:54] <mrdeb> what about chrome, will lts dump firefox for chrome soon
[03:54] <syn-ack> so far as I know the only difference is that the Mac version is specifically set up for EFI firmwares
[03:55] <syn-ack> *maybe* be some driver issues, but I'm not sure.
[03:55] <convict> oh okay, so I won't mess with it then
[03:56] <syn-ack> After all, all a Mac is anymore is an over priced PC, anyway
[03:57] <dougiel> ???
[03:57] <convict> syn-ack, not really considering I can't really run ubuntu on it well
[03:58] <syn-ack> convict, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[03:58] <convict> syn-ack, nothing listed for my model
[03:59] <syn-ack> What model?
[03:59] <convict> 9.1
[03:59] <convict> 9,1*
[04:00] <syn-ack> convict, I would assume this is the best fit for you, then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Raring
[04:02] <bruce_> syn-ack - yeah, pretty much - but i keep buying them any way:)
[04:02] <syn-ack> convict, or may be https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro9-2/Ringtail Though this is starting to get into uncharted territory for me
[04:02] <Ari-Yang> Prufrock, you change the GRUB_DEFAULT=0 in /etc/default/grub. default is 0, which is the kernel you're currently using. now you can look at the grub menu on boot and look at the list of older kernels. Say you do, the first one on the list should be the default one, lets say you have 5 kernels installed; the first one on the list corresponds to 0, the second kernel on the list is 1 and so on. So if you w
[04:02] <Ari-Yang> anted to boot a kernel that is number 5 on the list, you'd set GRUB_DEFAULT to 6 (GRUB_DEFAULT=6)
[04:02] <syn-ack> bruce_, The Jobs family thanks you, as well.
[04:03] <bruce_> i was just using audacious, and i muted the sound using the keyboard, and cant get sound back - even after a reboot! any clues?
[04:03] <syn-ack> bruce_, use amixer to unmute it.
[04:03] <bruce_> it now shows as unmuted, but no sound...
[04:04] <bruce_> ok, here comes the noob question... Where is amixer? is that the one under media playback?
[04:05] <syn-ack> bruce_, you have to install
[04:05] <bruce_> ah!
[04:05] <syn-ack> bruce_, sudo apt-get install amixer
[04:05] <syn-ack> bruce_, also, it's a console app.
[04:05] <bruce_> ok, will do
[04:06] <syn-ack> The reason Im having you use that is sometimes pulseaudio gets in the way and it's a more direct way of interacting with the drivers
[04:06] <convict> yea, can't turn off the graphics card with vgaswitcheroo :/
[04:07] <bruce_> syn-ack - it said that the package is not available but is referred to by another package...
[04:07] <bruce_> is there another way of doing this?
[04:07] <syn-ack> bruce_, yes
[04:07] <syn-ack> bruce_, apt-cache search amixer
[04:07] <syn-ack> what does it say?
[04:08] <syn-ack> (Im not in a debian distro right now, whcih is why I'm having you do it)
[04:09] <bruce_> says pretty much same thing - that it has no installation candidate...
[04:09] <syn-ack> Standby
[04:09] <holstein> !info gnome-alsamixer
[04:09] <syn-ack> alsamixer
[04:09] <syn-ack> nm
[04:09] <bruce_> ah, cool
[04:09] <histo> bruce_: or try alsamizer
[04:09] <holstein> !info alsa-utils
[04:09] <syn-ack> holstein got it. heh
[04:10] <histo> s/alsamizer/alsamixer
[04:10] <syn-ack> I was searching the ubuntu package search site. Sorry about that
[04:11] <bruce_> nope, unable to locate package - i tried the path u gave me too...
[04:11] <bruce_> hmmm
[04:11] <holstein> bruce_: you should be able to just run it.. alsamixer in the terminal
[04:12] <holstein> !audio
[04:12] <bruce_> yep, there it is!
[04:12] <bruce_> everything is on and up...
[04:12] <holstein> bruce_: dont trust labels there
[04:12] <bruce_> ah
[04:13] <holstein> bruce_: "aplay -l" in the terminal.. do you see your audio device?
[04:13] <holstein> bruce_: have you installed and tried to use "pavucontrol"
[04:13] <holstein> bruce_: did you mute with the "function" keys of the keyboard in XFCE?
[04:13] <bruce_> not yet, just a fresh install of ubuntu:)
[04:14] <holstein> bruce_: have you *ever* had audio
[04:14] <bruce_> yes, muted with function key f10
[04:14] <bruce_> i did up to that point!
[04:14] <holstein> bruce_: dont use the function keys, or expect them to work.. or to unmute.. maybe only the mute works
[04:15] <syn-ack> heh, mine work. :D
[04:15] <bruce_> holstein - yeah, i am expecting everything to work like on osx - sillly mistake:)
[04:15] <holstein> bruce_: are you certain the hardware is functional? do you see the device in "aplay -l" has *any* linux worked?
[04:15] <holstein> bruce_: ?
[04:15] <holstein> bruce_: you are expecting eveything to work like you bought it from the same vendor.. like a system76 ubuntu machine or another reseller
[04:16] <holstein> bruce_: right now, you are using an operating system not intended to run on the hardware you have.. so, you wil need to be "open minded" and willing to troubleshoot
[04:16] <bruce_> holstein - not sure what you mean - when i installed about an hour ago, i played some music thru audacious, then tried out the mute button, then it stopped working...
[04:16] <holstein> bruce_: i assue you, we can find the same case with OSX and other hardware that it is not supposed to run on.. not to trash osx at all
[04:17] <bruce_> holstein - i am patient and willing to give it a go:)
[04:17] <holstein> bruce_: *dont* use the function keys.. and expect them to work
[04:17] <IdleOne> !bot
[04:18] <holstein> bruce_: please install pavcontrol, and unmute *not* using the keyboard
[04:18] <bruce_> holstein - ok, will do now...
[04:19] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi pavucontrol is needed as a playback and recording system
[04:19] <MonkWitDaFunk> I havent done pvr functionality yet
[04:20] <MonkWitDaFunk> I hope pvr ubuntu is great starting with 12.04.2
[04:20] <nathanesau1> anyone here know much about operating system installation?
[04:21] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi nathan
[04:21] <holstein> nathanesau1: yes.. may volunteers.. i would say *every* volunteer here has installed many OS's.. i installed 2 today
[04:21] <MonkWitDaFunk> Nathanesaul
[04:21] <nathanesau1> i only have one current hard drive partition
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> holstein: 2 ubuntu systems?
[04:21] <nathanesau1> 700gb ntfs
[04:21] <nathanesau1> but... when i try to install from a boot cd (windows)
[04:22] <nathanesau1> it just goes to the bios screen
[04:22] <nathanesau1> and doesnt boot the disc
[04:22] <MonkWitDaFunk> Im still figuring out if gnome disk utility can make partitions
[04:22] <bruce_> holstein - ok, installed pavucontrol - and it currently shows as unmuted - but there is still no sound...
[04:22] <nathanesau1> in fact, the only disk i can actually load is xubuntu
[04:22] <holstein> nathanesau1: mabye the windows cd is bad
[04:22] <nathanesau1> its not
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> MonkWitDaFunk: did you try with gparted?
[04:22] <nathanesau1> ive tried vista, xp , windows 7
[04:22] <nathanesau1> i have the original install discs
[04:22] <holstein> bruce_: mute and unmute.. try a different user..
[04:22] <MonkWitDaFunk> No no. I want to do it wuth gnome
[04:23] <MonkWitDaFunk> With gnome
[04:23] <nathanesau1> did i partition my harddrive improperly???
[04:23] <holstein> MonkWitDaFunk: gparted is the tool  to use.. from a live CD
[04:23] <nathanesau1> anyone know how to do a factory reset of your computer?? (i currently have no OS installed)
[04:23] <holstein> nathanesau1: the hard drive state will not make the cd not boot
[04:23] <client> nathanesau1 what are you attempting to do?
[04:23] <nathanesau1> boot from a windows install cd
[04:23] <nathanesau1> i can only boot from a linux install cd
[04:23] <holstein> nathanesau1: you get the factory reset disk from the manufacturer, and boot it
[04:24] <holstein> nathanesau1: if you have a properly functioning windows boot cd, you should be able to boot it then
[04:24] <client> Would you like to wipe your harddrive clean completely?
[04:24] <MonkWitDaFunk> Yes, you can download ubuntu or torrent ubuntu
[04:24] <nathanesau1> yes client
[04:24] <nathanesau1> i am currently running off of a "trial" of xubuntu
[04:24] <client> Ok then if it isn't working with a windows boot cd, would you like us to help you find a solution using a linux cd?
[04:25] <nathanesau1> sure
[04:25] <holstein> you dont need to wipe the hard drive to get a windows installtion cd to boot
[04:25] <roasted> Question - I am trying to set up email notifications with mdadm. I added my email address to mdadm.conf, but when I run the test command, it errors out with  mdadm: Only one autorebuild process allowed in scan mode, aborting. Eh?
[04:25] <nathanesau1> i think its because of my hard drive partition holstein
[04:25] <nathanesau1> in the bios for instance
[04:25] <holstein> nathanesau1: no.. its not
[04:25] <nathanesau1> only the ubuntu cd shows up
[04:25] <holstein> nathanesau1: the hard drive has nothing to do with the bios booting the CD
[04:25] <nathanesau1> not the windows install cd
[04:26] <holstein> nathanesau1: and, im proposing the ubuntu cd is "good".. where, if you havent *ever* seen the windows cd boot, its "bad".. or "broken"
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> roasted: maybe this can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1895084&page=5&p=12407697#post12407697
[04:26] <bruce_> holstein - found it! unmuted analog playback:) thanks!
[04:26] <holstein> nathanesau1: take the windows cd to another machine and test it
[04:26] <nathanesau1> i will
[04:27] <bruce_> holstein - avoiding f keys from now on:)
[04:27] <holstein> bruce_: enjoy!
[04:27] <nathanesau1> also the reason linux is bad for me
[04:27] <nathanesau1> is that my laptop gets really hot
[04:27] <nathanesau1> when i am on ubuntu
[04:27] <nathanesau1> no idea why
[04:27] <nathanesau1> and the battery drains like crazy
[04:27] <holstein> nathanesau1: graphics driver..
[04:27] <nathanesau1> is there a fix???
[04:27] <holstein> nathanesau1: the battery life wont be better in linux..
[04:28] <roasted> lotuspsychje: new error - sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[04:28] <nathanesau1> no but its like 3 times better in windows
[04:28] <roasted> joyyyyyyyyy
[04:28] <MonkWitDaFunk> You might.need an expenive power adapter from cooler master
[04:28] <holstein> nathanesau1: sure.. ask the vendor for proper linux support.. that would be a fix.. otherwise, install, and troubleshoot
[04:28] <client> Ok I found solutions to wipe and reinstall, but no solutions to just wipe the HDD clean
[04:28] <MonkWitDaFunk> Id get a universal power adapter
[04:28] <holstein> nathanesau1: it can be "like 3 times better" in the operating system the hardware was designed to run
[04:29] <nathanesau1> hmm... is there a way to install a linux os right now for me???
[04:29] <nathanesau1> without having to burn it to a cd
[04:29] <holstein> wiping the hard drive is not the issue... but you can wipe it with a dban live CD
[04:29] <holstein> !install
[04:29] <nathanesau1> dban live cd doesnt boot for me holstein
[04:29] <gp5st> in lucid, http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libccid, supported the O2 micro oz776.  in precise http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libccid it doesn't seem to . how come?
[04:29] <nathanesau1> thats why i think its my laptop
[04:29] <MonkWitDaFunk> Id use two live mediums to put hard disk memory to a new life span
[04:29] <nathanesau1> dban iso cd wont boot either
[04:29] <client> holstein relax bro. as you can see the guy is kind of a newbie, so go easy on him
[04:30] <holstein> nathanesau1: sounds to me like you dont have a full grasp of the bios on your system
[04:30] <holstein> !volunteers | client
[04:30] <holstein> client: feel free and volunteer as you wish
[04:30] <nathanesau1> holstein: the ubuntu cd works, but dban and windows cds do ont
[04:30] <client> seems like im hitting a brick wall with you holstein.
[04:30] <nathanesau1> *do not
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> roasted: you got postfix installed correctly?
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> roasted: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1491387
[04:31] <holstein> client: yeah? i am welcoming your feedback that should be directed to nathanesau1 .. no walls here.. enjoy!
[04:31] <client> nathan, right now are you running ubuntu through a cd?
[04:31] <holstein> nathanesau1: did you burn the windows CD yourself?
[04:32] <nathanesau1> no
[04:32] <nathanesau1> i have a windows install cd
[04:32] <holstein> nathanesau1: does the windows CD and/or dban boot on another machine?
[04:32]  * wilee-nilee thinks "if there was only a per-session boot out if the bios"
[04:32] <nathanesau1> yes
[04:32] <nathanesau1> it does
[04:32] <bruce_> holstein - how do we find out the graphics card under ubuntu?
[04:32] <holstein> bruce_: lspci
[04:32] <nathanesau1> i was wondering whether my bios is messed up or something
[04:32] <nathanesau1> i.e. when my laptop boots up
[04:33] <nathanesau1> like... can the bios be reset to factory settings or??
[04:33] <holstein> nathanesau1: sound like it could be.. i would test the memory from that ubuntu live CD that is booting.. and test as much as you can
[04:33] <client> the bios is probably running on factory settings right now nathan
[04:33] <holstein> nathanesau1: there will be a factory reset in the bios screens (or should be).. they are different per machine, and you should try a hardware channel for support
[04:33] <MonkWitDaFunk> You can reset the bios by taking out the cmos battery to drain the cmos of power and power on ti reset it
[04:34] <MonkWitDaFunk> Cmos is volatile
[04:34] <nathanesau1> hmmm not sure what to do
[04:34] <syn-ack> Or you can not listen to MonkWitDaFunk since doing that can short out the CMOS
[04:34] <nathanesau1> maybe i should contact my manufacturer
[04:34] <syn-ack> check out the BIOS settings, it should be in there.
[04:34] <client> syn-ack :D
[04:35] <holstein> nathanesau1: i suggest testing, and contacting the vendor, and trying a hardware channel
[04:35] <client> nathanesau1 if its still under warranty, contact the manufacturer
[04:35] <MonkWitDaFunk> Just put the batter in the right way to reset your bios. You need to fully program your bios afterwards
[04:36] <nathanesau1> lol do they cover stuff like this on warranty???
[04:36] <holstein> i would look  for a reset in the bios menu before turning any screws
[04:36] <MonkWitDaFunk> Its easy
[04:36] <syn-ack> MonkWitDaFunk, Silence.
[04:36] <nathanesau1> theyll probably say its my fault for messing with partitions
[04:36] <client> its just a bios issue. What they will do is probably reset it.
[04:36] <holstein> nathanesau1: you'll need to ask the manufacturer what they cover
[04:36] <nathanesau1> and not  fix it
[04:36] <syn-ack> lets not have him void anything, shall we?
[04:36] <holstein> nathanesau1: the hard drive partitions dont effect the bios, friend
[04:36] <MonkWitDaFunk> Program the setting of smart fan.for example
[04:36] <client> thats like a car manufacturer saying its your fault for doing an oil change.
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> Gosh if there was only a boot from menu outside the bios to try.
[04:37] <nathanesau1> lol client
[04:37] <client> yeah syn-ack is right. dont be opening up the hardware.
[04:37] <holstein> plop
[04:37] <client> its just a bios issue for now.
[04:37] <holstein> http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html
[04:38] <holstein> if plop boots, you can have it boot USB or whatever other media
[04:38] <client> nathan is your laptop a dual-boot right now?
[04:39] <nathanesau1> no
[04:39] <nathanesau1> no OS right now
[04:39] <krz> is this channel being flooded?
[04:39] <syn-ack> krz, Yes.
[04:39] <client> that doesn't sound correct. How did you wipe the HDD clean without installing an OS?
[04:39] <holstein> nathanesau1: if that hard drive were out.. the machine should boot a CD.. the state of that hard drive wont keep the CD from booting
[04:40] <krz> wah
[04:40] <nathanesau1> client
[04:40] <krz> why so much hate
[04:40] <nathanesau1> i used a live cd
[04:40] <krz> who is hating on ubuntu?
[04:40] <nathanesau1> with xubuntu on it
[04:40] <nathanesau1> and got rid of all the partitions
[04:41] <holstein> krz: you might rather discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:41] <ggabriel96> hey guys! after i ran steam big picture, now there are 2 icons for steam at the launcher, with only 1 steam open of course
[04:41] <nathanesau1> and combined them all into one 700gb ntfs
[04:41] <holstein> !steam | ggabriel96
[04:41] <bruce_> holstein - looks like there is a linux driver for the GPU on this MBP. so, how do UNINSTALL the current one? There is a page which suggests to do that first...
[04:41] <MonkWitDaFunk> 12.04.2 is by far the most out there ubuntu to adopt in my opinion
[04:41] <bruce_> holstein - looks like there is a linux driver for the GPU on this MBP. so, how do UNINSTALL the current one? There is a page which suggests to do that first...
[04:41] <client> ok ok. so you ran the installation of xubuntu.
[04:41] <bruce_> holstein - looks like there is a linux driver for the GPU on this MBP. so, how do UNINSTALL the current one? There is a page which suggests to do that first...
[04:41] <nathanesau1> no i didnt install xubuntu
[04:41] <ggabriel96> holstein ?
[04:41] <nathanesau1> i am currently "trying it"
[04:41] <nathanesau1> from a live cd
[04:42] <client> why don't you just install xubuntu for now and then work your way back?
[04:42] <holstein> ggabriel96: the channel referenced at the link i gave would be the place to ask, or steam support
[04:42] <nathanesau1> im not sure how i would work my way back
[04:42] <holstein> ggabriel96: #ubuntu-steam
[04:42] <nathanesau1> also i wanted to try a different linux os
[04:42] <ggabriel96> !steam is a channel? wouldn't it be #steam?
[04:42] <nathanesau1> and was wondering if i could do that right now
[04:42] <nathanesau1> without having to burn another live cd
[04:42] <holstein> ggabriel96: it would be #ubuntu-steam ,as i stated, and the link states
[04:42] <client> nathan the problem with your situation is that in order to wipe the HDD clean from a xubuntu boot disk, you would have to go through the install process. if you just booted from a live cd, it wouldn't wipe the HD
[04:43] <holstein> or, just open gparted from the live CD
[04:43] <nathanesau1> i did that holstein
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, There is a boot from menu outside the bios, the bios splash screen most likely tells you the key prompt, on my computer it is f11, this is a per-session boot.
[04:43] <client> you can use a usb memory/flashstick as another boot option
[04:43] <ggabriel96> well ok, thanks
[04:43] <holstein> nathanesau1: did what?
[04:44] <nathanesau1> i used gparted
[04:44] <nathanesau1> /dev/sda
[04:44] <nathanesau1> /dev/sda1 - ntfs
[04:44] <nathanesau1> unallocated
[04:44] <bruce_> holstein - is it possible to create a bootcamp disk from osx, with wondows drivers, and use them? or am I barking up the wrong tree? Seems , like it would be nice to drivers for a few other things too...
[04:44] <holstein> nathanesau1: also, it literally doesnt effect the booting of a CD.. the state of the hard drive.
[04:44] <nathanesau1> thats all it says
[04:44] <holstein> bruce_: you shouldnt need to
[04:44] <goddard> should I get an IPS display?
[04:45] <bruce_> holstein: cool. here goes!
[04:45] <holstein> bruce_: if you literally just installed.. i would just enjoy the system, as you did OSX. and try othe driver if you need to
[04:45] <client> nathan if you install any OS for now, its better than sitting in a state of limbo without an OS.
[04:45] <nathanesau1> true
[04:45] <holstein> bruce_: if you run into an issue, for example.. linux should be supporing what it can by default.. you can install proprietary graphics drivers, but you wont need windows or boot camp
[04:45] <client> xubuntu is much lighter than ubuntu in terms of running on systems.
[04:45] <nathanesau1> whats the easiest way to make a linux os boot usb
[04:46] <nathanesau1> to install a linux os
[04:46] <holstein> nathanesau1: i use unetbootin
[04:46] <holstein> !unetbootin
[04:46] <client> exit
[04:46] <nathanesau1> but can you install an os from unetbootin??? or just try one out
[04:46] <nathanesau1> and i heard that the older version is better?
[04:47] <holstein> nathanesau1: there is not difference, friend. there is no "Trial".. there is just the live CD that you can run live, and install from
[04:47] <holstein> nathanesau1: "better" is a matter of opinion
[04:47] <holstein> nathanesau1: the 12.04 version is an LTS.. a long term support.. you use that one is you want long term support.. the 13.04 verision is newer
[04:47] <holstein> its up to you to decide what is "better"
[04:48] <nathanesau1> what linux os would you recommend??? which are the most lightweight
[04:49] <nathanesau1> i dont want my laptop to be so hot all the time
[04:49] <bruce_> holstein: yeah, good advice! at least i have music now! that helps! thanks for your help.
[04:49] <holstein> nathanesau1: xubuntu has been recommended to you here
[04:49] <holstein> nathanesau1: lubuntu as well
[04:49] <holstein> nathanesau1: the heat is from the driver support likely
[04:49] <holstein> bruce_: enjoy!
[04:49] <dr_willis> i second what holstein  says about heat
[04:50] <fobelx> i have two internet connections. wlan0 and eth0. is there a way for me to control which applications use which connection?
[04:50] <nathanesau1> holstein: 12.04_live for lubuntu?
[04:50] <holstein> nathanesau1: there is no "lts" version of lubuntu, so i would get 13.04
[04:50] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[04:51] <holstein> nathanesau1: if you are getting 12.04 because "someone said the older version is better", you didnt read what i posted about the versions
[04:51] <dr_willis> 13.04 ubuntu may cure the heat issue also
[04:51] <holstein> i second what dr_willis said about 13.04 curing the heat issue potentially!
[04:51] <Senor> How chould I install kernel debug info?
[04:51] <nathanesau1> im currently using 13.04
[04:51] <nathanesau1> my laptop is very hot still
[04:51] <holstein> nathanesau1: then, just install lxde
[04:52] <holstein> nathanesau1: lubuntu and xubuntu *are* ubuntu.. they are all ubuntu.. different desktop envoriments
[04:52] <dr_willis> !info lubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <nathanesau1> wait... so are there non-ubuntu linux depos that you like?
[04:52] <nathanesau1> i.e. debian
[04:53] <holstein> nathanesau1: this is the ubuntu support channel, friend
[04:53] <holstein> !ot | nathanesau1
[04:53] <nathanesau1> lol very true
[04:53] <nathanesau1> why did you chose ubuntu holstein
[04:53] <holstein> nathanesau1: the community
[04:54] <nathanesau1> alright i guess im getting daily_live_x64
[04:54] <nathanesau1> whatever lubuntu daily_live is...
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Find the boot from menu not in the bios key prompts, back to your original no boot, I have seen this work on 100's of exactly the same situation.
[04:54] <dr_willis> daily live?
[04:55] <holstein> nathanesau1: you dont want a daily live
[04:55] <holstein> nathanesau1: you might not want 64bit
[04:55] <nathanesau1> why not
[04:55] <dr_willis> if thats 13.10  its in pre beta testing
[04:55] <nathanesau1> i have a 64 bit processor
[04:55] <holstein> nathanesau1: how much ram?
[04:55] <nathanesau1> 8gb
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Did this computer come with W8 originally?
[04:56] <nathanesau1> yes
[04:56] <holstein> nathanesau1: this is what i, and others have suggested you download http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[04:56] <dr_willis> install tge lubuntu-desktop package nathanesau1 . no need to reinstall
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> BINGO
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | nathanesau1 for info
[04:57] <holstein> yup.. you already have ubuntu... unless you have installed 13.10 from a daily, which could explain some issues
[04:57] <dr_willis> !version
[04:58] <nathanesau1> wilee-nilee what did you mean find the boot from menu not in the bios key prompts, back to me original no boot
[04:58] <dr_willis> nathanesau1:  what lsb_release -a   say you have
[04:59] <nathanesau1> no lsb modules are avaialable
[04:59] <nathanesau1> ubuntu, ubuntu 13.04, raring
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, If you had a standard partitioning system with a fast boot set up there would be a boot from menu outside the bios, however we can assume with a W8 install to begin with you have uefi, that is a bit of a tougher situation.
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> without the fast boot *
[05:00] <nathanesau1> i have a fast boot option
[05:00] <nathanesau1> in bios
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Did you disable it?
[05:00] <nathanesau1> yes
[05:00] <nathanesau1> also my partitions are screwed up like i said
[05:00] <holstein> nathanesau1: disable anything that would make the machine not boot CD
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Do you have the OEM set for W8?
[05:00] <nathanesau1> OEM set?
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, original manufactures reintsall disc set.
[05:01] <nathanesau1> no
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, I supsect the windows boot problem is tied to this, not sure of an answer I have avoided these setuos.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> setuos*
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> ups* doh
[05:02] <nathanesau1> hmmm so its not just so simple as wiping a harddrive
[05:02] <nathanesau1> and then installing windows
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Not sure really, the ##windows channel might know here is a link from the UF on more uefi stuff. ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[05:04] <nathanesau1> is ##windows on the same server as this?
[05:04] <holstein> nathanesau1: you dont have to "wipe" and then install.. that is *not* what is keeping that cd from booting, friend
[05:04] <holstein> nathanesau1: the hard drive state is not preventing that cd from booting
[05:05] <dr_willis> unplug the hd  and see if it boots. to prove that
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Yes you have to be registered with freenode is all then run /j ##windows
[05:05] <dr_willis> but i cant see how the hd can be the issue
[05:07] <Voi> trying to ffmpeg -i *.flv *.mp3 i get "encoder not found" for mp3 error; i looked up on the internet and read that i need "libavcodec-extra-52" but i cant install it; package has no installation candiadate (seems like it worked on ubuntu 11 but not anymore
[05:08] <dr_willis> voi you may need to get it from the mediabuntu repos. and that command line seems wrong looking to me
[05:09] <Voi> dr_willis, which line
[05:09] <dr_willis> ive seen other  tools to rip the audio out of a flashvudeo also
[05:09] <Voi> can yxou recommend one
[05:09] <dr_willis> try your fgmpeg line on a single file
[05:10] <dr_willis> !info mencoder
[05:10] <dr_willis> !info winff
[05:12] <MOUD> hey all
[05:12] <MOUD> is there a program for ubuntu to fix windows 7 startup registry?
[05:13] <dr_willis> MOUD: if there is it would be on the  'system rescue'  live cd i bet
[05:13] <dr_willis> but may not be in the ubuntu repos
[05:13] <Foxhoundz> I installed Ubuntu on a laptop that has dedicated nVidia graphics chip as well as the intel integrated piece or garbage
[05:14] <Foxhoundz> how can I force Ubuntu to use nVidia?
[05:14] <Foxhoundz> s/or/of
[05:14] <mrmoth> Foxhoundz: check out bumblebee
[05:14] <mrmoth> assuming your laptop uses optimus
[05:15] <cynicist> voi: if the flash video is coming from a site like youtube it is much easier to use a tool like youtube-dl to automate that stuff
[05:15] <Foxhoundz> ..wh...what's optimus?!
[05:15] <Voi> cynicist, thanks
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> MOUD, You have about one of the best on the ##Windows channel helping you don't double post.
[05:15] <dr_willis> the dual gpu thing many laptops use Foxhoundz
[05:15] <Foxhoundz> Ah
[05:16] <Foxhoundz> I can confirm that it does indeed have optimus
[05:16] <cynicist> voi: yw, you can specify using cmd line switches like -x to extract audio from video and --audio-format=X to encode to a particular audio format (I use vorbis myself)
[05:16] <dr_willis> disable one card in the bios may work also
[05:16] <MOUD> wilee-nilee: i know, but I might find other solutions here too, that's why
[05:16] <Foxhoundz> The bios is watered down
[05:16] <Foxhoundz> I can't even select boot order
[05:16] <mrmoth> k Foxhoundz, bumblebee is your best bet :3 be careful though! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> MOUD, double posting is not appreciated, and disrespectful.
[05:17] <Voi> dr_willis, winff uses ffmpeg itself, so its no help since im still missing that codec that wont install on ubuntu 13.
[05:18] <MOUD> wilee-nilee: I see. My apologies then.
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> MOUD, besides that helper there knows windows beyond anyone here that I have ever seen in years being here.
[05:18] <dr_willis> i  recall using mp3 with winff on  13.04
[05:18] <dr_willis> bbl
[05:18] <const864> hello
[05:18] <MOUD> wilee-nilee: it makes sense, it's a windows channel after all
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> MOUD, HOnestly my only real concern is your getting fixed, if your not on the channels regularly it is hard to know the best help. :)
[05:20] <const864> how i may concat 2 files or more in bash?
[05:20] <reisio> const864: cat
[05:20] <syn-ack> const864, cat >
[05:21] <reisio> cat file file file file file *wtvr*beans* > zombies
[05:21] <peterrooney> const864: cat ; also,  /join #bash for eventual enlightenment
[05:21] <syn-ack> Unless you want an overly complicated perl method
[05:21] <const864> thanks
[05:24] <cynicist> Voi: btw if you still want to use ffmpeg the package you are looking for is libavcodec-extra-53
[05:26] <reisio> mmm, ffmpeg
[05:26] <HypnotiX> how can i add more space to my ext4 partition?
[05:26] <HypnotiX> in gparted i dont have that option even thou i have 200gb of unpartitioned space
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, you on a live cd?
[05:27] <HypnotiX> no
[05:27] <reisio> you can't resize an FS that's mounted :)
[05:27] <netlar> I want to help, what can I volunteer for?
[05:27] <reisio> a partition, eben
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Yu can't resize a mounted partition
[05:27] <reisio> !contribute
[05:27] <reisio> ubot93: your name is wrong
[05:27] <HypnotiX> so any suggestions then
[05:28] <reisio> HypnotiX: boot up your install media, hit 'try'
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> reisio, I saw a womens name as a bot earlier.
[05:28] <reisio> wilee-nilee: what was it?
[05:28] <Rickey_Mutamid> Hello everyone, Rickey_Mutamidhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> reisio, I was on windows I forget.
[05:28] <reisio> wilee-nilee: :p
[05:29] <reisio> Rickey_Mutamid: hi
[05:29] <HypnotiX> then what reisio :)
[05:29] <gt8ost4l> does anybody know how to make transmission the default in firefox
[05:29] <reisio> HypnotiX: same thing you were doing, gparted
[05:29] <reisio> HypnotiX: keep in mind it is not 100% safe, it's more like 90% safe
[05:29] <reisio> gt8ost4l: what happens when you click a torrent link?
[05:29] <HypnotiX> hmm  i created another ext4 with that free space
[05:29] <HypnotiX> but it mounted it as media
[05:30] <reisio> HypnotiX: naturally
[05:30] <gt8ost4l> a dialog pops up and i have to choose an application but i dont know where transmission is
[05:30] <HypnotiX> ok is there a way to not mount it as media, to be a part of home? :D
[05:30] <HypnotiX> or root
[05:30] <xmetal> i'd say a bootable cd of Gparted, though a few distros have gparted on their livecd/dvds
[05:30] <reisio> gt8ost4l: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[05:30] <reisio> gt8ost4l: dpkg -L transmission | grep bin
[05:31] <reisio> HypnotiX: yes, but the ideal is having just one partition, not two
[05:31] <noobnoob2> Guys, I have 2 flavors of the same gtk theme; I use one of those, but I wish to use the other for specific apps, is that possible?
[05:31] <reisio> HypnotiX: it's just a hassle because of it not being 100% safe :)
[05:31] <HypnotiX> i already have two ext4 partitions because of my windows mentality :D
[05:31] <reisio> noobnoob2: anything is possible, but that sounds like it'd be tedious to pull off
[05:31] <reisio> HypnotiX: :p
[05:31] <HypnotiX> doesnt linux erase the entire ext4 partition if i have to reinstall it :P
[05:32] <reisio> HypnotiX: only if you tell it to, but why would you have to reinstall
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Rickey_Mutamid
[05:32] <reisio> reinstalling is for closed source OSes
[05:32] <noobnoob2> reisio: I know, By possible I mean "can be done within 10 mins"
[05:32] <HypnotiX> well i had to reinstall windows once a year at least :D
[05:32] <HypnotiX> as i said i dont think in linux yet :)
[05:32] <reisio> noobnoob2: not that I know of, ask #linux or #gnome or #gtk maybe
[05:33] <reisio> HypnotiX: :p
[05:33] <noobnoob2> reisio: Thx
[05:33] <reisio> HypnotiX: figure out what you want to do and someone can explain it
[05:33] <gt8ost4l> reisio thankx it worked like a charm
[05:33] <HypnotiX> right now i have 3 ext4 partitions :(
[05:33] <reisio> heh
[05:33] <HypnotiX> i have to merge them
[05:33] <HypnotiX> without losing my data
[05:34] <reisio> HypnotiX: easier if you have empty storage space of equivalent size
[05:34] <HypnotiX> yeah i know
[05:34] <reisio> you'll need it eventually anyways, this might be a good time to get some more storage
[05:34] <reisio> also food for thought: LVM
[05:36] <xmetal> anyway you can move data from one to another then "resize" (and evetually remove, if desired) the partition that HAD the data orginally
[05:36] <xmetal> ?
[05:36] <xmetal> (if its OS files, thats not a good idea)
[05:36] <xmetal> you can break your systen that way, if you ask me
[05:37] <Voi> cynicist, ty again!
[05:38] <cynicist> voi: np :)
[05:39] <Voi> yea thats the right codec :D
[05:39] <reisio> what're you doing with ffmpeg?
[05:39] <Loshki> HypnotiX: fake it using soft links...
[05:42] <jony_easyrider> I need a twitter client for Ubuntu 12.04, any suggestion?
[05:43] <reisio> jony_easyrider: reconsideration
[05:43] <reisio> apt-cache search twitter | less
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> !info gwibber | jony_easyrider
[05:46] <jony_easyrider> gwibber wont connect to twitter :(
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> !info turpial | jony_easyrider
[05:47] <HypnotiX> Loshki: how
[05:49] <jony_easyrider> I checked turpial too... it asks for a PIN and it won't connect
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> jony_easyrider: your twitter password?
[05:53] <jony_easyrider> lotuspsychje, no, it wont connect even with my password
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> jony_easyrider: thats odd mate, gwibber and turpial should work out of the box
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !info hotot | jony_easyrider
[05:55] <Myrtti> which version on gwibber are you using? I thought they moved to oauth
[05:55] <Myrtti> twitter that is
[05:57] <jony_easyrider> Myrtti, 3.4.2
[05:57] <jony_easyrider> Myrtti, installed from the software center
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> hmm seems like its called friends-app now
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !info friends-app
[05:59] <reisio> that's some homepage friends-app has
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> reisio: got an url on that?
[06:00] <reisio> there's only a launchpad page AFAIK
[06:00] <bruce__> join #ubuntu
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> reisio: ah tnx
[06:02] <bruce__> How can I add downloaded apps to my apps list in the main menu in ubuntu?
[06:02] <irssi-mike> bruce__: i drag them to the bar on the left..
[06:02] <reisio> or run them and right click on'm
[06:04] <bruce__> what if there is a folder with some resources, and the app - where is a good place to put the folder?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> bruce__: what app are you talking about exactly?
[06:05] <bruce__> its a java app called game editor...
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> bruce__:you running the linux version or you wine it?
[06:07] <bruce__> linux version i think...
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> bruce__: here's an url to make specific icons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> *launchers
[06:14] <babinlonston> How to copy a file using scp if the port is changed 3500
[06:14] <babinlonston> from a remote machine i need to copy a file but my port was changed to 3500
[06:15] <irssi-mike> did you try colon 3500 then /
[06:16] <kingjohn> !list
[06:24] <histo> babinlonston: -P #####
[06:25] <babinlonston> histo: let me givemy command what i have used
[06:25] <histo> babinlonston: scp -P 3500 somefile user@host:/wherever
[06:25] <babinlonston> histo:  ok
[06:28] <Dayummmm> Hi anyone with knowledge on domains, nameservers and DNS that could help me? :$
[06:28] <Kartagis> !find libsoundsourcem4a.so
[06:28] <histo> !anyone | Dayummmm
[06:28] <histo> Kartagis: you can pm the bot
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> Dayummmm: try ##networking
[06:29] <bodom> Does anybody know in a resyncing mdadm raid1 how to know which disk is active and which one is bein' resynced?
[06:29] <bodom> this is my conf: http://pastebin.com/bmTWF7xf
[06:29] <Dayummmm> I need some help pointing my domain to my free web hosting... I already changed the nameservers on my .tk panel to use the free hosting name servers... but the hosting provider gives me a myuser.freehosting.com sub domain...  I played with the DNS Zone settings on the hosting panel to use mysite.tk instead of mysite.freehosting.com .... my question is.. is that the way to do it? or did I do something wrong because I already spent 3 hours and I am seein
[06:29] <Dayummmm> g the DNS propagation and it shows that it has been propagated just in malaysia
[06:29] <Mot_Ah> Hello everyone, Mot_Ahhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[06:30] <iLiFo> lol!
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> Dayummmm: this is not related to ubuntu mate
[06:31] <Dayummmm> yeah but I tried everything lol
[06:31] <babinlonston> histo: scp -P 2002 sysadmin@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/sysadmin/Desktop/iptablescript.sh sysadmin@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/sysadmin/Desktop/ i have used this and im trying to copy a file from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> and the port number was 2002 i got error connection refused
[06:31] <histo> Dayummmm: Yeah kind of offtopic for here I would ask in the other channels people suggested like ##networking
[06:31] <Dayummmm> I've been on #networking without any help :(
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> Dayummmm: only ubuntu supporting questions here mate
[06:31] <histo> babinlonston: why were you asking aobut port 3500 before?
[06:32] <histo> babinlonston: and can you ssh on both boxes using sysadmin on port 2002
[06:32] <babinlonston> yes i can , just i asked 3500 for example
[06:33] <Dayummmm> and thats why I am here... plan b... on my ubuntu server  do I need to setup the domain I have with dot.tk or how do I do to make the dot.tk point to my server using my server's nameservers
[06:33] <babinlonston> yes i can access the ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-p 2002
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> Dayummmm: try the #ubuntu-server guys
[06:34] <Dayummmm> lol :) alright
[06:34] <histo> babinlonston: what about the other box?
[06:34] <Dayummmm> and babinlonston are you authenticating using a key?
[06:34] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, rsa or any other?
[06:36] <babinlonston> uff  i cant ssh from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:36] <babinlonston> but u can ssh from <IP_ADDRESS> to 77
[06:36] <histo> babinlonston: does 99 have an ssh server listening?
[06:36] <Dayummmm> on each computer do an nmap localhost and pastebin the results
[06:37] <babinlonston> how can i flush the all iptables rules , i haved used iptables -F but its not working some rules are there
[06:37] <magdur> guys i cant update my computer
[06:37] <histo> babinlonston: and I assume you are doing a copy from remote host to remote host and aren't logged into one of the machines just copying a file to another.
[06:37] <babinlonston> histo: yes
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> magdur: whats the error mate?
[06:37] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, do nmap on both computers and paste the results.... and also would be a GREAT idea to flush the ip tables
[06:37] <histo> babinlonston: is it also listening on 2002?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> magdur: and what version of ubuntu are you on now?
[06:37] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, nmap localhost
[06:37] <babinlonston> let me check and ill give pastei
[06:38] <magdur> "check your internet connection" and 12.10
[06:38] <histo> magdur: are you connected to the internet?
[06:39] <magdur> definitely and here error  details  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939003/
[06:39] <Karel_Islwyn> Hello everyone, Karel_Islwynhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[06:39] <histo> !backtrack | magdur
[06:39] <magdur> actually i was add to my sources backtracks sources
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Karel_Islwyn
[06:40] <babinlonston> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939011/
[06:40] <babinlonston> Dayummmm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939011/
[06:40]  * histo feels bad for all these comprimised machines used in this bot attack
[06:40] <Dayummmm> LOL
[06:40] <histo> babinlonston: ss -ant     it doesn't look like ssh is listening
[06:40] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, it is never going to work
[06:41] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, you need to start ssh listening on that port
[06:41] <babinlonston> while nmap for <IP_ADDRESS> from other machine shows as All 1000 ports on <IP_ADDRESS> are closed
[06:42] <babinlonston> histo: ya i Wrote a iptables entry shall i provide it in paste will you please review it after using that iptables only i got this issue
[06:43] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, it would be better to flush them ... but even though using iptables if the nmap is to localhost it should show if ssh port is open or not
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> babinlonston: maybe nmap -PN -sV ipadress
[06:43] <babinlonston> Dayummmm: ya how can i flush the iptables , i used iptables -F but its not working even after save its there some rules in chain and output
[06:43] <histo> babinlonston: then get rid of the entry you made
[06:43] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, so my suggestion is to restart ssh and make sure it is setup to work on port 2200
[06:43] <Dayummmm> or whatever port u are using
[06:44] <Dayummmm> histo, but the nmap is not showing that port so it means it is not running it lol
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> Dayummmm: if firewall or router doesnt block..
[06:44] <Dayummmm> lotuspsychje, on localhost?
[06:44] <Dayummmm> lotuspsychje, hehe
[06:45] <Dayummmm> the nmap scanned localhost
[06:45] <babinlonston> lol openssh was not there :o
[06:45] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, see... I was right xD
[06:45] <babinlonston> will the iptables will remove it or what ?
[06:45] <babinlonston> k
[06:45] <histo> babinlonston: sudo service sshd status
[06:45] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, no, it means that you need to start the service or install it lol
[06:46] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, and check the sshd_config as well to listen on port 2200 if that is the one u want
[06:46] <babinlonston> sudo service sshd status
[06:46] <babinlonston> sshd: unrecognized service
[06:46] <Dayummmm> sudo apt-get install sshd
[06:46] <Dayummmm> lol
[06:48] <babinlonston> did sudo apt-get install ssh  openssh-server
[06:48] <histo> babinlonston: sudo service ssh status
[06:48] <babinlonston> now nmap result is here 22/tcp  open  ssh
[06:48] <babinlonston> 631/tcp open  ipp
[06:48] <histo> sry not on ubuntu right now to check
[06:48] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, as I said before... check /etc/openssh/sshd_config
[06:48] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, and make sure it is listening on port 2200 or whatever port u use
[06:49] <histo> babinlonston: okay well you are trying 2002 and now that box is listening on 22
[06:49] <babinlonston> Dayummmm: ok
[06:49] <Dayummmm> do a
[06:49] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, nano /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[06:49] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, then change port 22 to your port...
[06:50] <Emerentius_Metho> Hello everyone, Emerentius_Methodiushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[06:50] <Dayummmm> then sudo service ssh restart  ..... not sure if it is ssh or sshd
[06:50] <Dayummmm> probably sshd
[06:50] <babinlonston> histo:  my local machine where im now want to be 22 port let it be , and i need to copy a file to <IP_ADDRESS> its in 3rd floor , that PC have the port number 2002 for ssh and its too open now . then just i need to copy the file and check as u guided me before . let u know if there is issue
[06:51] <babinlonston> Dayummmm: ya Done let me try and come back
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Emerentius_Metho
[06:51] <Dayummmm> so I hope after helping I get good karma and someone could help me with this weird networking issue
[06:52] <babinlonston> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939051/
[06:53] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, the command is completely wrong
[06:53] <babinlonston> :(
[06:54] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, let me make it up for you
[06:54] <babinlonston> ok
[06:56] <Dayummmm> scp -P 2002 /path/to/your/iptablescript.sh sysadmin@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/sysadmin/Desktop/iptablescript.sh
[06:56] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, scp -P 2002 /path/to/your/iptablescript.sh sysadmin@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/sysadmin/Desktop/iptablescript.sh
[06:56] <babinlonston> ok
[06:57] <Dayummmm> if it is not working try ... scp -P 22 /path/to/your/iptablescript.sh sysadmin@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/sysadmin/Desktop/iptablescript.sh
[06:57] <Dayummmm> even though the 22 is not needed but just to delete less on the paste lol
[06:58] <babinlonston> Dayummmm: :D iptablescript.sh                                                                                100% 2622     2.6KB/s   00:00
[06:58] <Dayummmm> ;)
[06:58] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, glad it worked
[06:58] <babinlonston> Thanks Dayummmm m:)
[06:58] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, you are welcome... just a suggestion.. if you like linux read the manuals hehe
[06:59] <babinlonston> Dayummmm:  Sure Sure
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Dayummmm
[07:00] <Dayummmm> ubottu an evil cookie xD
[07:00] <Dayummmm> I'm outta here.. by everyone
[07:00] <Dayummmm> bye*
[07:10] <goddard> i love gparted
[07:14] <Marlene> why i get error while i run == add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/ppa
[07:14] <Marlene> -bash: apt-repository: command not found
[07:15] <histo> Marlene: do you have a space?
[07:16] <Marlene> yes
[07:16] <arleas> How can I reduce the fan speed of my ATI gpu when using the default drivers? The ATI drivers cause my PC to hang under 13.04.
[07:18] <ChrisMaQ>  is it worth upgrading from 12.04 to 13?
[07:19] <Marlene> any one know that error
[07:19] <Marlene> -bash: apt-repository: command not found
[07:19] <histo> ChrisMaQ: define worth?
[07:19] <kohvihoo1> Marlene: do you have a package 'python-software-properties' installed?
[07:20] <histo> Marlene: can you pastebin the command you are enterring
[07:21] <Marlene> kohvihoo1 : yes
[07:21] <ChrisMaQ> are the upgrades in 13 that much better to warrant an upgrade especially given the fact its not a LTS
[07:22] <reisio> ChrisMaQ: how long exactly do you plan on not updating? :p
[07:22] <joshu> hi before i could access the cups web interface and making changes without being asked for my password. Now for some reason I have not been able to explain I'm asked for my username and password and every time they are rejected.
[07:23] <kohvihoor> Marlene: how about software-properties-common?
[07:23] <Marlene> kohvihoor :not installed
[07:24] <Marlene> i will install it now
[07:24] <histo> ChrisMaQ: just wait for 14.04
[07:24] <histo> ChrisMaQ: if you want LTS that is
[07:25] <histo> joshu: what?  can you rephrase that?
[07:25] <ChrisMaQ> im a newbie to linux/ubuntu been using it on and off for years but recently decided to single boot and commit entirely to it... i run dual monitor setup and it took me a while to get everything running jus how i want
[07:25] <reisio> ChrisMaQ: gj
[07:26] <ChrisMaQ> the only reason for a virtual machine is ps-cs6 because i havent fully learnt gimp as yet
[07:26] <wildon> come on its simple
[07:28] <ChrisMaQ> well i am in love with ubuntu and i have maya on a old laptop i use when im in bed and its awesome ... only trouble i have is skype on ubuntu but some strange reason it runs great on my maya
[07:28] <reisio> maya is some tablet I take it?
[07:28] <histo> ChrisMaQ: what is maya?
[07:29] <reisio> oh an edition of mint
[07:29]  * reisio stabs codenames
[07:29] <ChrisMaQ> yea
[07:29] <magdur> guys which one ubuntu 12.04 lts or 13.04 for a new ubuntu user ?ü
[07:29] <reisio> magdur: coming from... Windows?
[07:30] <magdur> actuaaly same time windows same time 12.10
[07:30] <histo> magdur: depends on what they are doing
[07:30] <histo> magdur: is it a production machine or home use?
[07:30] <reisio> magdur: you're already used to GNU/Linux, then
[07:30] <histo> magdur: also did you get your repo's sorted out?
[07:31] <magdur> histo: generally home use addition learning programming python and java
[07:31] <reisio> there's really no reason to avoid updating something for more than a year (or remotely near a year)
[07:31] <reisio> desktop or otherwise
[07:31] <histo> magdur: go with 13.04 then
[07:32] <magdur> histo actually i want to a clear install and i want to use every time
[07:32] <tones> what about older hardware as a reason to not update?
[07:32] <reisio> magdur: you know any other languages?
[07:32] <magdur> turkish ?
[07:32] <reisio> tones: that'd have to be some really old hardware, justifying replacement
[07:32] <magdur> reisio i know turkish
[07:33] <histo> tones: what regression?
[07:33] <reisio> magdur: programming languages :)
[07:33] <tones> athlon x2, 1.5 gigs ram
[07:33] <magdur> sorry :) no i dont nothing :)
[07:34] <magdur> histo why 13.04 i read about 13.04 has  a lot of bugs
[07:36] <histo> magdur: then use 12.04 it's all free choice is yours. I don't even run ubuntu
[07:36] <reisio> histo: well then who is in charge?!
[07:36]  * reisio :p's
[07:36] <ChrisMaQ> what do u run #histo
[07:36] <histo> arch linux on this lappy
[07:36] <ChrisMaQ> oh cool
[07:37] <reisio> how many distros do you run? :p
[07:37] <magdur> hmm ok guys are you suggest arch linux ?
[07:38] <histo> On my laptop arch linux on my home server debian and ubuntu on one of my desktops
[07:38] <histo> magdur: no
[07:38] <ChrisMaQ> its more command line
[07:38] <magdur> ok histo i think it is for servers isnt it ?
[07:39] <histo> magdur: no arch is a rolling release distro I wouldn't let it near any servers
[07:40] <histo> magdur: I'd run ubuntu LTS or debian on a server
[07:40] <werxxx> My linux sistem have not detected a usb flash drive
[07:40] <histo> werxxx: check lsusb and dmesg when you insert it
[07:40] <arleas> How can I reduce the fan speed of my ATI gpu when using the default drivers? The ATI drivers cause my PC to hang under 13.04.
[07:41] <reisio> histo: you're a sick sick man :p
[07:41] <magdur> thank hmm ok for everythink and i go and download 12.04 lts  and install it  thank for suggestion
[07:42] <werxxx> histo but it may connect my android phone
[07:42] <magdur> histo yes i sort out with repo's :)
[07:43] <werxxx> What I do wrong
[07:43] <kohvihoor> werxxx: what may connect your phone?
[07:43] <yalu> how to add a user to an existing group in ubuntu 12.4? most importantly: in a graphical way
[07:43] <yalu> the standard dialog does not allow it anymore
[07:44] <histo> magdur: I was going to say you could sed -i '/backtrack/ s/^/#/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:44] <Marlene> how to upgrade from this ==  "12.04.2 LTS, Precise Pangolin"  to latest version of ubuntu
[07:44] <histo> !upgrade | Marlene
[07:44] <kohvihoor> Marlene: one by one
[07:44] <histo> yalu: Can't you do it int he GUI users thing anymore?
[07:44] <werxxx> Android may detect microSD
[07:45] <ChrisMaQ> is there a hack for unity to allow u to see programs installed without searching?
[07:46] <histo> yalu: sudo usermod -a -G group user
[07:46] <histo> ChrisMaQ: the software center?
[07:46] <histo> ChrisMaQ: or dpkg -l
[07:46] <yalu> histo: I had a note on this somewhere. in 12.10 it has become more useful again. but  I want to install an LTS
[07:46] <histo> werxxx: what are you talking about?
[07:46] <reisio> ChrisMaQ: what histo said
[07:46] <yalu>  histo that would do just fine for *me*, but I am installing this system in a school
[07:47]  * yalu installs gnome-system-tools
[07:48] <werxxx> I can't my usb connect
[07:49] <histo> werxxx: what is your native language
[07:49]  * histo cringes for some random language with impossible to guess bot trigger
[07:49] <Marlene> root@root:~# update-manager -d
[07:49] <Marlene> -bash: update-manager: command not found
[07:50] <histo> Marlene: did you read the directions
[07:50] <werxxx> histo I'm from russian
[07:50] <histo> !ru | werxxx
[07:51] <Marlene> yes iam upgrading first from 12.04 to 12.10
[07:51] <histo> Marlene: do you have update-manager installed?
[07:52] <histo> Marlene: and are you trying to upgrade to the latest LTS or to 13.04?
[07:52] <histo> Marlene: if it's a server install you will need to sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[07:52] <werxxx> They are banned me histo :'(
[07:52] <Marlene> lastes ubuntu version
[07:52] <Marlene> i use ssh server
[07:52] <histo> Marlene: if you just want the latest LTS sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:53] <histo> Marlene: then install update-manager-core and follow the directions for ubuntu servers
[07:53] <histo> Marlene: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades#Ubuntu_Servers_.28Recommended.29
[07:53] <histo> !details | werxxx
[07:54] <arleas> How can I reduce the fan speed of my ATI gpu when using the default drivers? The ATI drivers cause my PC to hang under 13.04.
[07:55] <arleas> Think I'm going to have to give up with Ubuntu for another couple of years until the bugs are fixed - I really like the distro too
[07:55] <kohvihoor> arleas: whats your gpu model?
[07:56] <Albert_Zlatan> Hello everyone, Albert_Zlatanhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[07:56] <histo> !ops | Albert_Zlatan
[07:57] <Pricey> histo: Have they done anything else?
[07:57] <histo> Pricey: they will
[07:57] <kohvihoor> arleas: have you tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/116005/gnome-3-ati-fan-always-on/116045#116045
[07:58] <arleas> kohvihoor: ati 6870
[07:58] <ChrisMaQ> does anyone run docks for their ubuntu 12.04 setup .. how is it?
[07:58] <arleas> kohvihoor: I don't understand the instructions!
[07:58] <histo> ChrisMaQ: there are tons of docks to choose from in linux
[07:58] <ChrisMaQ> histo: are they stable?
[07:58] <ChrisMaQ> and glitch free
[07:59] <arleas> kohvihoor: Also, Jupiter is not available when using apt-get
[07:59] <etherape_> Hi guys, quick question (im already googling around for a day). Does someone knows if it is possible to remove the user name from the gnome lock dialog?
[07:59] <etherape_> this is needed because of PCI rules..
[07:59] <histo> etherape_: then how would you know which pass to use?
[08:00] <kohvihoor> arleas: what ubuntu version?
[08:00] <etherape_> we have one laptop per user
[08:00] <arleas> kohvihoor: 13.04
[08:00] <etherape_> so each system has only one end-user
[08:00] <histo> etherape_: and are you using unity or gnome?
[08:01] <etherape_> unity, but i uses the gnome-screensaver dialog
[08:01] <etherape_> just the defaults
[08:03] <histo> etherape_: maybe in gconf somewhere
[08:03] <etherape_> yeah that's where im browsing around but thnx for the suggestion :-)
[08:04] <werxxx> histo when I connect to ubuntu via android phone (alcatel) I can see  usb drive (sdb1), but I can't see it when connecting via cardreader
[08:04] <histo> werxxx: what type of card reader?
[08:05] <werxxx> I have kubuntu 10.04
[08:05] <kohvihoor> arleas: when does the system hang if you use the fglrx driver?
[08:06] <arleas> at the log in screen
[08:06] <arleas> kohvihoor: at the login screen - if I boot using reduced graphics mode (or whatever it's called from the boot options), Unity doesn't work. I had to format my installation to get it to work again.
[08:07] <histo> werxxx: is it a usb card reader?
[08:07] <kohvihoor> arleas: it sounds like driver is not installed properly
[08:07] <kohvihoor> did you do aticonfig --initial after you installed the driver?
[08:08] <blazemore> !lucid | werxxx
[08:09] <arleas> kohvihoor: I installed it using the software updater/app store, but had a 'unsuported hardware' water mark and some screen tearing. I then uninstalled it the same way, and downloaded the drivers from AMD. That's when all the problems started - one of them being it didn't seem to support dual monitors, as it would give an error saying the screen resolution is not supported
[08:10] <arleas> kohvihoor: So... no - I didn't know you had to use aticonfig --initial after installing
[08:11] <kohvihoor> arleas: ah, yea, if you install the drivers from amd's site, you'll have to run this command
[08:11] <nathanesau1> anyone here used virtual box?
[08:11] <kohvihoor> you can try this howto: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29
[08:11] <werxxx> No
[08:11] <kohvihoor> it has always worked for me
[08:12] <arleas> kohvihoor: thanks mate - I'll give it a go
[08:14] <kohvihoor> arleas: if everything goes well, then you can configure your dual monitor setup through the catalyst control center :)
[08:14] <nathanesau1> im using virtual box in ubuntu
[08:15] <nathanesau1> and i can boot windows xp setup in virtual box
[08:15] <nathanesau1> i.e. "press f12 to continue"
[08:15] <nathanesau1> but that prompt does appear when i restart my computer
[08:15] <nathanesau1> in fact the disc is not recognized, it is skipped over
[08:15] <nathanesau1> and i cant boot from it
[08:15] <histo> nathanesau1: is it ejected?
[08:15] <nathanesau1> but in virtual box i can
[08:16] <nathanesau1> no - its the original xp home edition disc
[08:16] <nathanesau1> in my disc drive
[08:16] <blazemore> nathanesau1: You need to set your BIOS to boot from CD/DVD first
[08:16] <kohvihoor> nathanesau1: sound like your first boot device in bios is not the cdrom
[08:16] <blazemore> nathanesau1: Not really an Ubuntu support question though
[08:16] <nathanesau1> where should i ask this
[08:17] <blazemore> Well you've been given the correct answer now so it doesn't matter
[08:17] <nathanesau1> im not sure if you understand
[08:17] <nathanesau1> the computer does not recognize that there is a disk in the drive
[08:17] <sssilver> Hey guys... I'm reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver but I can't find the section where it actually installs the driver
[08:17] <nathanesau1> so it does not show up
[08:17] <nathanesau1> in the bios
[08:18] <nathanesau1> but it does recognize there is the SAME boot disk in the drive in virtual box
[08:18] <blazemore> nathanesau1: Does your BIOS support booting from CD?
[08:18] <nathanesau1> i was able to boot from a xubuntu cd
[08:18] <nathanesau1> but i cant boot from the windows xp cd
[08:18] <kohvihoor> sssilver: open source radeon driver should be automatically installed
[08:19] <nathanesau1> im not sure if its because of differences in the types of operating system / disc ???
[08:19] <blazemore> nathanesau1: Is there an option when you turn on your PC, to enter a boot menu?
[08:19] <nathanesau1> no
[08:19] <nathanesau1> no option
[08:19] <blazemore> nathanesau1: OK so go into the BIOS
[08:19] <sssilver> kohvihoor, so then how do I verify that everything's OK on my system? because graphics seems to be very slow, and I don't get transparency in my X
[08:19] <nathanesau1> yes????
[08:20] <blazemore> nathanesau1: It's different in every BIOS but you have to set it to boot from CD before it tries to boot from hard drive
[08:20] <nathanesau1> it wont let me do that though
[08:20] <blazemore> "won't let you" ?
[08:20] <nathanesau1> cd doesn't show up
[08:20] <nathanesau1> the only boot option is "ubuntu"
[08:21] <blazemore> !uefi
[08:21] <nathanesau1> how do you make the other options appear
[08:21] <blazemore> nathanesau1: That depends on your BIOS. What motherboard/laptop do you have?
[08:21] <nathanesau1> i have a asus laptop
[08:21] <nathanesau1> originally had windows 8
[08:21] <blazemore> nathanesau1: asus makes a lot of laptops
[08:21] <nathanesau1> not intel
[08:21] <nathanesau1> amd
[08:22] <blazemore> nathanesau1: What is the model number?
[08:22] <Ben64> nathanesau1: what are you trying to accomplish
[08:22] <kohvihoor> nathanesau1: if you have uefi, you can't install windows xp on it
[08:22] <nathanesau1> asus k75
[08:22] <nathanesau1> what do you mean kohvihoor
[08:22] <blazemore> nathanesau1: Modern PCs can't run windows XP
[08:22] <uzer> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors xorg with nvidia binary? I need to have both monitors running on diffrent custom edids or same edids.  right now it only uses one custom edid for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/
[08:23] <Ben64> nathanesau1: what are you trying to accomplish, what is your goal? what is stopping you right now?
[08:23] <nathanesau1> i want to boot a windows install disc
[08:23] <nathanesau1> i can only do it in virtual box
[08:24] <nathanesau1> not from startup
[08:24] <Ben64> join ##windows
[08:24] <Ben64> this is Ubuntu support only
[08:24] <MrQuist> hey guys
[08:24] <MrQuist> WHy isn't my interface renamed? I've edited /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[08:24] <MrQuist> service udev restart; service networking restart;
[08:25] <MrQuist> then "ip a s" still shows the old interface name
[08:25] <uzer> anyone.. :(
[08:26] <blazemore> !patience | uzer
[08:32] <uzer> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors xorg with nvidia binary? I need to have both monitors running on diffrent custom edids or same edids.  right now it only uses one custom edid for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/
[08:32] <blazemore> uzer: ...
[08:32] <uzer> what? "Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly"
[08:33] <uzer> i repeated my question slowly. is that not fast enough
[08:33] <blazemore> Nobody said anything in between ubottu and you re-asking your question
[08:33] <uzer> empathy is irc takes up the whole screen, so i cant really know how your irc looks like
[08:33] <uzer> but yea
[08:34] <johndoe2> Hi. I made a big bummer by starting  "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-2*". Now it's removing all my kernels in a loop, it seems. Can I interrupt it somehow?  It told me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a which sought it out.
[08:37] <MrQuist> We are friendly
[08:37] <MrQuist> if you play by the rules
[08:37] <blazemore> That's good johndoe2
[08:38] <MrQuist> johndoe2, what would happen if you had a power failure in between? hehe :P
[08:38] <uzer> No i am not helping myself. thats why i am here, to get some help. But yeah. You are not friendly. so its a little scewed to talk for anybody but yourselve.
[08:38] <uzer> yourself*
[08:38] <johndoe2> blazemore, I thought it would use globbing and not regexp. really stupid not to check it...
[08:39] <\du> i am running apt-get -y --force-yes dist-upgrade, but still i have a dialog that say "Configuration file '/etc/xxxx' ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation. etc.. etc.. (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] "
[08:39] <\du> any idea because the -y and --force-yes it's not working ?
[08:39] <blazemore> \du: try --force-all maybe?
[08:40] <\du> blazemore, i will try it thanks
[08:40] <uzer> \du sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:41] <ajdlinux> So I've just installed Kubuntu 13.04 from a USB on a Windows 7 machine, and Windows 7 has started blue-screening on startup with the blue screen flashing too quickly to read before immediately rebooting. Any suggestions?
[08:41] <TheBrayn> sounds like a windows problem -> ##windows
[08:42] <uzer> Thats most definitely a windows question.
[08:42] <gatuzzo> hello
[08:42] <gatuzzo> good mornin
[08:42] <inerkick> I am using ubuntu 12.10 and having issue installing virtualwrapper. I could see that I have installed virtualenv and virtualwrapper. But I don't see it working as per this guidelines "http://www.rosslaird.com/blog/first-steps-with-mezzanine/"    http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939333/
[08:43] <gatuzzo> can someone explain me howto to install adobe flash player on ubuntu
[08:43] <uzer> ajdlinux you might try to remove any excess ramsticks from your motherboard. and retry. else its probably the mbr or something like that
[08:43] <TheBrayn\0> inerkick: so?
[08:43] <uzer> which would mean you need to reinstall windows
[08:43] <ajdlinux> uzer: I'm going to hazard a guess and say it's partition-resizing related
[08:44] <klevin> Hello Guys
[08:44] <blazemore> gatuzzo: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:44] <klevin> Does anyone try to install ubuntu desktop from ftp locla server?
[08:44] <inerkick> how to get virtualwrapper installed. and working TheBrayn\0 .
[08:45] <klevin> Does anyone try to install ubuntu desktop from ftp local server?
[08:45] <uzer> ajdlinux you like to live on the dangerous side dont you.
[08:45] <klevin> Does anyone try to install ubuntu desktop from ftp local server?
[08:45] <blazemore> !patience | klevin
[08:45] <uzer> :3
[08:46] <ddssc> wherte are ubunu install logs? I want to see which user installed what and when
[08:46] <TheBrayn\0> inerkick: you did not say which problems you have
[08:46] <ddssc> thanks
[08:46] <Gatuzzo> blazemore, tks mate it worked :)
[08:46] <blazemore> ddssc: All logs are usually in the /var/log directory
[08:46] <ddssc> blazemore: I know that. where are ubuntu INSTALL logs tho?
[08:47] <ddssc> or how do I grep them
[08:47] <ddssc> from syslog or whatever
[08:47] <uzer> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors xorg with nvidia binary? I need to have both monitors running on diffrent custom edids or same edids.  right now it only uses one custom edid for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/
[08:47] <ajdlinux> uzer: yeah, it comes with the kind of person who runs Debian experimental
[08:47] <TheBrayn\0> inerkick: nvm, I didn't see the pastebin
[08:47] <nogood> dpkg.log
[08:47] <TheBrayn\0> no idea though, sounds like a python related question
[08:47] <Gatuzzo> see you later
[08:47] <Gatuzzo> :)
[08:47] <inerkick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939333/
[08:47] <TheBrayn\0> which should probably go in #python
[08:48] <blazemore> ddssc: The file /var/log/auth.log shows you what users authenticated as root
[08:48] <Ben64> uzer: why not let the card detect the monitors?
[08:49] <ChrisMaQ> jus tried cairo dock and hated it ... what is the best dock for ubuntu?
[08:49] <blazemore> !best | ChrisMaQ
[08:49] <uzer> ben64: The monitors and card is fine, edids is the only way to overclock the refresh rate though, xrandr doesnt work... ever.
[08:50] <Ben64> uzer: looks like you get to dig through nvidias documentation then
[08:50] <blazemore> uzer: You just used the words "overclock the refresh rate", I'd strongly recommend you stop doing whatever it is you are trying to do
[08:50] <ChrisMaQ> brb
[08:50] <uzer> blazemore and why is that?
[08:50] <blazemore> uzer: You're likely to make a mistake based on your lack of knowledge/ability/experience
[08:50] <Gatuzzo> wassup, im back
[08:51] <uzer> i am not experimenting here. I know all my syncs and whatnot. front porch backporch, tried to use a custom xmodeline but again xrandr never works.
[08:51] <Gatuzzo> is deluge as strong as a downloader ratio as Vuze or any other torrent ???
[08:51] <uzer> blazemore, Thats quiet the assumption.
[08:51] <ChrisMaQ> im ack
[08:51] <ChrisMaQ> back
[08:51] <ChrisMaQ> need help choa good launcher
[08:52] <blazemore> Gatuzzo: I use Deluge, it's my favourite client
[08:52] <Gatuzzo> blazemore, can i achieve with it high download ratios as i do in Vuze ?
[08:53] <blazemore> Gatuzzo: Only as fast as your Internet connection
[08:53] <Gatuzzo> ok
[08:54] <Gatuzzo> blazemore, know any good app to creat apps for iphone for free ?
[08:54] <Ben64> Gatuzzo: this channel is for ubuntu support only, not iphone nor bittorrent
[08:54] <blazemore> Gatuzzo: No, and that's offtopic anyway. Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:55] <Gatuzzo> ok
[08:55] <Gatuzzo> see u later
[08:55] <blazemore> He was odd
[08:56] <uzer> ...
[08:56] <nathanbz> will www-data always have the same uid ?
[08:57] <blazemore> no nathanbz
[08:58] <uzer> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors xorg with nvidia binary? I need to have both monitors running on diffrent custom edids or same edids.  right now it only uses one custom edid for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/
[08:59] <csrgxtu> hi, i am running some programs I write in ubuntu, but it takes hours, is there any tech to make it faster?
[08:59] <Nicolaas_Mikhah> Hello everyone, Nicolaas_Mikhahhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[08:59] <uzer> lol
[08:59] <blazemore> lol Nicolaas_Mikhah
[08:59] <uzer> kill it with fire.
[09:00] <Artemis3> anon ops? wrong channel and network :P
[09:00] <blazemore> Do you have an Ubuntu support question Nicolaas_Mikhah ?
[09:00] <uzer> oh mighty devines, i summon your ban hammer of wrath to strike down on Nicolaas and may the gods bless us all.
[09:01] <Ben64> we don't need the commentary
[09:01] <Marlene> i get this error http://pastebin.com/BjGieqbQ
[09:01] <\du> blazemore, don't work :( and i was confuse this is the command that i was running apt-get -f -y --force-yes --force-all install
[09:01] <blazemore> Marlene: Are you using Backtrack?
[09:02] <blazemore> \du: --force-all instead of --force-yes
[09:02] <Ben64> !backtrack | Marlene
[09:02] <Marlene> blazemore : no iam add backtrack repository in source list
[09:03] <\du> blazemore, i run "apt-get -f -y --force-yes --force-all install" and the result was "Command line option --force-all is not understood"
[09:03] <\du> see that i am doing a -f to resolve unmed dependency
[09:05] <uzer> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors xorg with nvidia binary? I need to have both monitors running on diffrent custom edids or same edids.  right now it only uses one custom edid for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/
[09:05] <blazemore> !patience | uzer
[09:06] <csrgxtu> hi, i am running some programs I write in ubuntu, but it takes hours, is there any tech to make it faster?
[09:06] <uzer> Stop doing that.
[09:06] <blazemore> uzer: no, you
[09:07] <uzer> blazemore, i have the feeling you are quite the casuist. I am merely asking questions.
[09:07] <blazemore> The same question*
[09:08] <uzer> i cant ask too many questions?
[09:08] <Ben64> the general consensus is waiting 15-20 minutes before repeating
[09:08] <blazemore> No, but you can ask the same question too many times
[09:09] <uzer> Ben64 I might consider that inefficient.
[09:09] <blazemore> uzer: I consider it inefficient to queue in the supermarket, but I do it anyway
[09:09] <Marlene> blazemore : no iam add backtrack repository in source list
[09:10] <Marlene> i get this error after upgrade ing ubuntu
[09:10] <uzer> blazemore, but their is no queue here. see you actually are a casuist
[09:10] <uzer> ;3
[09:10] <Ben64> uzer: just stop filling the channel with nonsense
[09:10] <blazemore> I have a meeting now, good luck finding someone to help you uzer
[09:10] <uzer> :( i will need it.
[09:10] <Ben64> Marlene: it is not supported to add other repositories to ubuntu
[09:11] <Ben64> uzer: then go read the nvidia documentations
[09:11] <uzer> this is a Xserver related matter.
[09:11] <uzer> ben64
[09:11] <Ben64> its nvidia driver related
[09:11] <uzer> Nvidia uses xserver.
[09:12] <Ben64> well the nvidia gurus aren't here, so start reading more and repeating less
[09:12] <Marlene> so i must remove this backtrack repositories
[09:12] <Ben64> Marlene: if you want support here, yes, but you might have already broken stuff
[09:12] <uzer> irc is reading also :(
[09:13] <jone> hi
[09:13] <Orion78> I have a problem with grub. When power-on a computer that was hibernated grub waits infinitely for manual selection, while if I power-on a computer that was simply shutdown grub normally timeouts and process to boot default selection. How to force grub to timeout and boot default selection also after hibernation? And please please please, dont tell me that it is dangerous thing to do, I know it!