[03:23] <omeow> samba however, is not.
[03:23] <omeow> Although, the package description of samba-common talks of server and client files.
[03:23] <luca_b> omeow: probably they originate from the same source package
[03:23] <ray79ct> mmm...
[03:23] <ray79ct> what is Samba ?
[03:23] <omeow> It's a type of dance.
[03:24] <ray79ct> sorry but in Linux i'm ignorant ! :D
[03:24] <haejin> hi, i got a problem with apt and mldonkey, i pasted all here :http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?board=56.0
[03:24] <ray79ct> allicchici i baddi a to pa
[03:24] <ray79ct> yeah .. i don't like it :D
[03:24] <luca_b> ray79ct: aside the dance, it's the linux implementation of SMB protocol, used in windows file sharing
[03:25] <ray79ct> it's another problem .. i see ntfs partition but i can't enter there
[03:25] <luca_b> ray79ct: enter as in browse or write?
[03:25] <ray79ct> and in old windows partition i ve all document
[03:25] <ray79ct> in everymode
[03:25] <ray79ct> i can't enter ..
[03:25] <luca_b> it says "accesso negato"?
[03:25] <ray79ct> in the icon i se a lock
[03:25] <ray79ct> si
[03:25] <ray79ct> yes
[03:26] <Flosoft> hey
[03:26] <luca_b> ray79ct:  that IS a permission problem then
[03:26] <ray79ct> luca hlp auto
[03:26] <Flosoft> does Kubuntu support 2 screens? with extending them=
[03:26] <ray79ct> aiuto
[03:26] <luca_b> ray79ct: english please, and I'm trying
[03:26] <ray79ct> ok
[03:27] <luca_b> ray79ct: are you using Kubuntu or plain ubuntu?
[03:27] <ray79ct> luca_b ... how i can insert the pass to take all permission of administator and i'll can use old ntfs
[03:27] <ray79ct> ubuntu
[03:27] <ray79ct> :(
[03:27] <ray79ct> i'm real stupid in this os !
[03:27] <luca_b> ray79ct: look in the menu and open up the terminal program
[03:27] <Kwukki> hello
[03:28] <ray79ct> _Konsole ?
[03:28] <luca_b> ray79ct: yes
[03:28] <ray79ct> like prompt of shitty windoz
[03:28] <ray79ct> ok
[03:28] <ray79ct> now ?
[03:28] <Kwukki> nee
[03:28] <Kwukki> hij neemt het zlfs niet
[03:28] <luca_b> ray79ct:  paste this:
[03:28] <Kwukki> oeps
[03:29] <luca_b> ray79ct:  cat /proc/mounts | grep ntfs
[03:29] <luca_b> and
[03:29] <luca_b> paste the result here
[03:30] <ray79ct> nothing
[03:30] <luca_b> ray79ct: ok, let's do it differently
[03:30] <ray79ct> i'll paste the  command but nothin' compare
[03:30] <ray79ct> ok ..
[03:30] <Kwukki> hello
[03:30] <luca_b> ray79ct: open up "Impostazioni di sistema"
[03:31] <luca_b> ray79ct:  should be in the menu
[03:31] <Kwukki> can someone help me with samba and printer sharing?
[03:31] <ray79ct> i don't find
[03:31] <luca_b> Kwukki: what do you need?
[03:31] <ray79ct> in System - administrator ?
[03:32] <Kwukki> i have a win xp machine, with a hp psc 1213 printer
[03:32] <Kwukki> I can print to it from m ykubuntu machine
[03:32] <Kwukki> the printer starts, but then, when he have to take the paper, he stops.
[03:32] <luca_b> ray79ct: erm, I can't figure out which ubuntu flavor you have, and if you have ubuntu I know almost 0, I only use KDE
[03:33] <Kwukki> (srry for my bad english ;-))
[03:33] <luca_b> Kwukki: like it opens up and then stops?
[03:33] <Kwukki> yes
[03:33] <Kwukki> he starts, is preparing himself and then it halts
[03:33] <Kwukki> he's not trying to take a paper
[03:33] <luca_b> Kwukki: ok, got it
[03:33] <luca_b> Kwukki: open a terminal
[03:34] <Kwukki> yes
[03:34] <Kwukki> k
[03:34] <luca_b> Kwukki: then try printing, and after the printer stops do a " sudo tail /var/log/cups/error_log"
[03:34] <Kwukki> k
[03:35] <luca_b> it should print out some lines
[03:35] <ray79ct> :(
[03:35] <luca_b> see if you can find any reference to errors
[03:35] <luca_b> ray79ct: try asking on #ubuntu
[03:36] <haejin> hi, i got a problem with apt and mldonkey, i pasted all here :http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?board=56.0
[03:37] <coachJ> ok, i have a stupid question, How do I know if I have 3D video working?
[03:38] <luca_b> coachJ: open a terminal and do glxinfo | grep direct
[03:38] <luca_b> if it says "Direct rendering: Yes", 3D accel is working
[03:38] <coachJ> says NO
[03:39] <luca_b> coachJ: then somewhat it's not working, what video card do you have?
[03:39] <k> !ati
[03:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:39] <coachJ> asus 7000
[03:39] <k> !nvidia
[03:39] <coachJ> ati
[03:39] <k> see the URL above
[03:39] <coachJ> yea that is what got me doing this
[03:40] <coachJ> If I screw up will I lose the gui?
[03:40] <luca_b> be back later, got some vacuuming to do
[03:40] <Kwukki> E [08/Jul/2006:15:38:20 +0200]  CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
[03:40] <k> coachJ: well
[03:40] <k> coachJ: you can set it to vesa temporarily
[03:41] <coachJ> great!
[03:41] <k> coachJ: do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:41] <coachJ> what will that do?
[03:42] <k> coachJ: ask you a series of configuration questions
[03:42] <k> coachJ: in a certain step, you'll get  a list of drivers. find vesa in the list. go to next
[03:42] <k> the next step*
[03:42] <coachJ> is this if I lose the GUI?
[03:43] <k> you won't lose the GUI
[03:43] <k> well, you will TEMPORARILY
[03:45] <k> after you answer the configuration questions, install the approopriate 3d graphics package
[03:45] <k> coachJ: there? ^^^^^^
[03:45] <coachJ> K> i appreciate your help but I am nt sure I wnat to get into this right now, just gathering info.
[03:45] <k> coachJ: the terminal is easy to use
[03:46] <k> get fimiliar with it. :-)
[03:46] <Kwukki> HELP
[03:47] <coachJ> I not afrid of it I just got back from the DR and jsut dont feel like getting all involved
[03:47] <Kwukki> 15 minutes ago i asked something
[03:47] <k> Kwukki: Ask.
[03:47] <ray79ct> luca ... ok
[03:47] <coachJ> thanks again I really appreciate the help
[03:47] <ray79ct> thks
[03:48] <Kwukki> I have a xp machine with a hp psc 1213
[03:49] <k> Kwukki: not a question yet...
[03:49] <Kwukki> i can print to it from kubuntu
[03:49] <Kwukki> but when he have to take the paper he halts :-s
[03:50] <lied> lol kubuntu is like windows, reboot and sound is working
[03:50] <shocktrooper1> hello.  "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display'
[03:51] <k> lied: no, it isnt
[03:51] <lied> k ;)
[03:53] <shocktrooper1> can someone please help me with this error?
[03:53] <lied> shocktrooper1:  did you tried XGL?
[03:53] <dr_willis> Kwukki,  you are saying it prints one pag4e then dont print any  more?
[03:53] <shocktrooper1> XGL?
[03:53] <Kwukki> no, it prints nothing
[03:54] <dr_willis> Kwukki,  you are using the latest Ubuntu  (Dapper) ?
[03:54] <Kwukki> when he have to take the first paper he halts
[03:54] <Kwukki> yes
[03:55] <dr_willis> could check the cups logs in /var/log/cups (i think) and see if any error emssages are shown)  You Did configure the printer using the Gnome-Printer tool?
[03:55] <Kwukki> with kde 3.5.3
[03:55] <Kwukki> no, kde
[03:55] <shocktrooper1> lied, could you be more specific?
[03:56] <Kwukki> maybe i have to run it as root?
[03:56] <k> lied: i ummm. he doesnt have it installed
[03:56] <k> shocktrooper1: do you have XGL?
[03:56] <shocktrooper1> I don't know.
[03:56] <dr_willis> You have to use the printer config tool and go to 'administratior' mode and thus enable root for the adding of a printer.
[03:57] <k> shocktrooper1: Do you rememberb installing a  "compiz" package?
[03:57] <dr_willis> i think thats how the kde tool does it.
[03:57] <shocktrooper1> k, no
[03:57] <k> dr_willis: ummm, no
[03:57] <k> shocktrooper1: Then you dont have XGL
[03:57] <k> shocktrooper1: Did you edit xorg.conf to enable 3D?
[03:57] <shocktrooper1> It shows the nvidia splash
[03:58] <k> shocktrooper1: that isn't an answer to my question
[03:58] <shocktrooper1> k, no.
[03:59] <k> shocktrooper1: Did you use "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" (exactly as typed)
[03:59] <shocktrooper1> yes
[03:59] <k> shocktrooper1: Did you restart X?
[03:59] <shocktrooper1> yes
[04:00] <k> shocktrooper1: OK, so you get that error after the nvidia splash screen shows.
[04:00] <shocktrooper1> k, yes.  in xorg.conf under "Module" there is no nvidia or nv
[04:01] <shocktrooper1> k should I just add 'Load  "nvidia"?
[04:01] <k> shocktrooper1: no......
[04:01] <shocktrooper1> ok
[04:02] <coachJ> K> one more question can I do this from System settings> display?
[04:02] <k> coachJ: Do what? Install the 3D driver?
[04:02] <coachJ> yes
[04:04] <lied> hm can someone help? sound is working with xmms. amarok is not working (xine with alsa as output)
[04:05] <k> no, you can't. Let me double check
[04:05] <coachJ> ok
[04:05] <k> coachJ: loading
[04:06] <lied> hm .wav is working but .mp3 not, with xmms i can play mp3 and wav
[04:06] <imbrandon> lied, then you need to install
[04:06] <shocktrooper1> k, would you like to see my xorg.conf?
[04:07] <k> coachJ: no, you can't. you can only change the driver
[04:07] <imbrandon> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:07] <coachJ> ok
[04:07] <imbrandon> lied ^^
[04:07] <imbrandon> that will let amarok play mp3's
[04:07] <lied> :)
[04:07] <lied> that make sense ;)
[04:08] <coachJ> ill have to get the software for this chat on my windows machine do if I need help I can get it
[04:08] <imbrandon> coachJ, xchat works in windows ( if you need to )
[04:08] <NICMICHAEL>
[04:08] <lied> NICMICHAEL:  yes your utf8 is working ;)
[04:09] <NICMICHAEL>
[04:09] <k> coachJ: xchat, but the offivial version has gone shareware for win32. try silverex
[04:10] <k> coachJ: its free
[04:10] <omeow> !zh
[04:10] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:10] <coachJ> thks
[04:11] <NICMICHAEL>
[04:13] <coachJ> installing
[04:14] <coachJ> how do I find this chat from my Xchat on windows?
[04:16] <Jeff_> k are you still here
[04:16] <sdolnack> can anyone recommend a good all-around guide for compiling and installing software from tarballs?
[04:16] <Jeff_> can someone talk me thu installing 3d drivers for my machine?
[04:17] <sdolnack> what card do you have
[04:17] <Jeff_> asus 7000 ati
[04:17] <Kwukki> i have the same, can someone help me too?
[04:18] <sdolnack> radeon 7000?
[04:18] <sdolnack> hold on, lemme see what i can do
[04:18] <Jeff_> yes
[04:19] <sdolnack> that's an old card isn't it
[04:19] <Kwukki> yes
[04:19] <Jeff_> yes
[04:20] <sdolnack> haha
[04:20] <Jeff_> 2 for the price of onw
[04:20] <Jeff_> one
[04:20] <sdolnack> is it a mobility radeon?
[04:21] <Jeff_> no tv out
[04:21] <raytray25> my system just lost all sound.. can someone help me?
[04:21] <raytray25> after restart there is still no sound
[04:21] <sdolnack> Jeff: are you using the latest driver?
[04:22] <sdolnack> or is that what you are having trouble with
[04:22] <sdolnack> oh wait nevermind
[04:22] <Jeff_> ? default driver i guess
[04:22] <Kwukki> is ther a driver for it?
[04:22] <Jeff_> the gui says "driver ati"
[04:22] <Kwukki> i thought that there was no driver fot the 7000
[04:22] <Jeff_> it runs 3d fine
[04:22] <Jeff_> 2d
[04:23] <sdolnack> fglrx doesn't support it
[04:23] <Jeff_> systems settins says fgrix ati card driver installed
[04:23] <Jeff_> dected i mean
[04:23] <sdolnack> http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man4/radeon.4.html
[04:25] <Jeff_> lot there can you sumerize
[04:26] <sensei> Yeah, I'm tired today too.. I want you to do the work for me while I relax.. then you can just tell me.. is that ok sdolnack?
[04:26] <sdolnack> what?
[04:26] <Jeff_> very funny
[04:26] <sensei> Just bear in mind that I won't pay you
[04:26] <sensei> I do realise that you do this for free, but anyways
[04:27] <Jeff_> ok, ok i get the message, geezzz
[04:27] <sdolnack> anyhow
[04:27] <sdolnack> jeff: you should switch from the 'ati" driver to the "radeon" driver by modifying your xorg.conf file
[04:27] <Kwukki> pffff
[04:27] <Kwukki> kopete 0.12 is very buggy.
[04:28] <dr_willis> Life is buggy
[04:29] <coachJ> is this what Jeff shoud do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:31] <Jeff_> sdolnack--is this what I should do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[04:31] <sdolnack> not sure
[04:32] <Jeff_> ok
[04:32] <Jeff_> thks
[04:32] <sdolnack> i'd just post on the ubuntu forums
[04:32] <sdolnack> now in the meantime
[04:33] <Jeff_> yes
[04:33] <sdolnack> i'm looking for personal suggestions here: can anyone recommend a good all-around guide for compiling/installing tarballs?
[04:33] <Jeff_> yeah right
[04:34] <sdolnack> after upgrading to an i686 kernel (and most softwareon the repos seeming to be built for i386) it only seems logical to build stuff myself
[04:34] <shocktrooper1> hello.  "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display'
[04:35] <Jeff_> sdolnack--how long have you been using linux?
[04:36] <sdolnack> bout a month and a half or so
[04:36] <Jeff_> oh come ON!
[04:36] <sdolnack> oh come ON! what?
[04:36] <maltron> hi - my sound isn't working properly - it won't mix sounds from two different apps.  mplayer reports that /dev/dsp is busy and can't be opened.  This has happened after some wrangling when no sound would work at all, after skype beta mucked around with my system.    Running dapper
[04:36] <maltron> any ideas?
[04:37] <Jeff_> you sound quite knowledgable
[04:37] <maltron> i've tried removing modules but some of them refuse to get removed
[04:37] <sensei> sdolnack: The performance gain is very slim when compiling manually
[04:37] <sdolnack> sensei: but as someone who's learning linux, it's an essential skill
[04:38] <sdolnack> besides, a lot of software just isn't available int he repos
[04:38] <sensei> sdolnack: True, I wasn't opposing you learning it ;)
[04:38] <sensei> http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Software/Compiling_Software.html
[04:40] <sdolnack> swiftfox ROOLZ!!!
[04:41] <sensei> sdolnack: For a shortcut, just search that page for "Installing from source is remark"
[04:41] <sensei> Although reading it all is good for understanding I suppose
[04:43] <sdolnack> wow--this is incredibly easy
[04:43] <sensei> With some prior basic know-how around computers, yeah, it's not that hard at all
[04:43] <sdolnack> whichi i have a great deal of
[04:43] <sensei> obviously
[04:43] <h3sp4wn> sdolnack: Try compiling mame from source
[04:46] <sdolnack> so sensei basically it's the same 5 steps for virtually every software program?
[04:46] <sdolnack> what are signatures for?
[04:46] <sdolnack> these asc files
[04:46] <sensei> sdolnack: Yes, basically
[04:46] <sensei> Sometime you may stumble upon perl makefiles etc.. but then it's usually well described in the INSTALL file
[04:47] <sensei> configure scripts usually has some options which you can access through --help which can help you do what you want
[04:47] <h3sp4wn> sometimes you need to use autoconf (If you are building something that is not in the repos - that is more likely)
[04:49] <sdolnack> sensei: the rule-of-thumb directory for installing 3rd party software is /usr/local, right?
[04:49] <sensei> sdolnack: Yeah, that's usually the default
[04:50] <sensei> So no need to --prefix everything there ;)
[04:50] <sdolnack> just --prefix=/usr/local? does it create a dir itself or do I have to mkdir every time
[04:51] <sensei> It creates
[04:51] <sdolnack> ace
[04:51] <sensei> But there's no need to do --prefix unless you want to install it in some odd place
[04:51] <sensei> Like if you don't have root access somwhere, you can use --prefix=/my/home/dir
[04:51] <sdolnack> i do
[04:52] <sdolnack> i am KINGz
[04:52] <sdolnack> wait--i thought you needed --prefix to install in /usr/local?
[04:52] <sensei> Nops
[04:52] <sdolnack> what do you do then
[04:52] <sensei> Nothing, it does that by default
[04:53] <sdolnack> o rly
[04:53] <sensei> Yeah, unless the creator of the Makefile has stated otherwise.. but there's usually no reason to do that
[04:54] <sensei> And you'll probably know by the time you hit one of those ;)
[04:54] <sdolnack> uh oh
[04:54] <sdolnack> configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[04:55] <sensei> If you look in the configure script, there should be a line like ac_default_prefix=/usr/local somewhere
[04:55] <sensei> Ok, install libncurses5-dev
[04:55] <sdolnack> but i have libncurses5 already
[04:55] <sensei> You'll probably need the -dev package since it's those that contains the header files etc.
[04:56] <Cntryboy> is there a codec pack I can download all in one for kaffeine
[04:56] <sdolnack> ahh
[04:56] <sdolnack> you know what
[04:56] <sdolnack> i bet it was coz i didnt' use sudo
[04:57] <sensei> Nops
[04:57] <sdolnack> no?
[04:57] <sensei> When running configure you mean ?
[04:57] <maltron> ok, now I'm a little annoyed
[04:57] <maltron> i've rebooted and now my sound is broken
[04:57] <maltron> what on earth is going on?
[04:57] <maltron> i know it serves me right for using skype beta, but I've got rid of that now
[04:58] <sensei> Cntryboy: I suppose you could try and download the 'all' package from ftp.mplayerhq.hu and place in /usr/lib/win32
[04:58] <maltron> so something must be corrupted, but whay?
[04:58] <sensei> or /usr/lib/codecs
[04:58] <maltron> what?
[04:58] <Cntryboy> is there a codec pack I can download all in one for kaffeine???
[04:58] <sensei> Cntryboy: Eeh ?
[04:59] <sdolnack> oh sensei what are asc's/signatures/keys for again?
[04:59] <sensei> sdolnack: Verifying things authority
[04:59] <abattoir> Cntryboy: [20:27:46]  <sensei> Cntryboy: I suppose you could try and download the 'all' package from ftp.mplayerhq.hu and place in /usr/lib/win32
[04:59] <Cntryboy> sensei: not an easier way?
[05:00] <Cntryboy> I'm lagging hard guys sorry..
[05:00] <sensei> Heh easier?
[05:00] <sensei> Than download and extract a file?
[05:00] <Cntryboy> but isn't there an easier way to do the codecs?
[05:01] <Snake[Sleep] > Anyone in here know anything about bugs? (The creatures) -- offtopic
[05:01] <sensei> Snake[Sleep] : I took advanced biology in high school? :)
[05:01] <Cntryboy> i mean like apt-get ?
[05:01] <sensei> Cntryboy: Probably there is.. I've never used it though.. But I bet someone's made a repo of them
[05:02] <sdolnack> sensei: like MD5's?   are they necessary?
[05:03] <sensei> sdolnack: Usually no.. They're basically there for automated processes to compare the downloaded file with the authors version
[05:03] <sensei> I never use them manually
[05:03] <Cntryboy> sensei: how could I find out? VlC is a buggy proggy
[05:03] <maltron> any idea what I can do about this: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy  ?
[05:04] <sensei> Cntryboy: It will probably take you longer to find out than it is to download a file from the Internet and extract it, unless anyone here knows about it
[05:04] <abattoir> Cntryboy: what sensei says is right... just click http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20060501.tar.bz2
[05:05] <abattoir> Cntryboy: save it on your desktop/home folder
[05:05] <Cntryboy> well do u know how to change icons in konqueror, to small list of files? only option I see is preview in, and it says image view or file view that file view is odd and retarded
[05:06] <abattoir> Cntryboy: View->View mode
[05:06] <abattoir> and choose what you want
[05:06] <sensei> maltron: kill whatever is using it? :)
[05:07] <Cntryboy> abattoir: thx man
[05:07] <Cntryboy> konqueror I dont care for much
[05:07] <sensei> wget http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20060501.tar.bz2 -O blah.tar.bz2 && sudo tar -jxvf blah.tar.bz2 /usr/lib/win32/
[05:08] <sensei> Should do it in one line
[05:08] <abattoir> Cntryboy: it doesnt get simpler than that :P
[05:09] <sotired> hello all
[05:09] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> sup
[05:10] <sotired> im having sound issues
[05:10] <sotired> im pisse
[05:10] <sotired> d
[05:10] <gioacchino> hello
[05:10] <gioacchino> I have a problem with flah
[05:10] <sotired> a few applications have gone crazy with sound. some only playing some elements, some none.
[05:10] <gioacchino> I use mozilla firefox
[05:10] <sotired> lemme guess no sound
[05:11] <gioacchino> I had installed the flash plugin
[05:11] <Cntryboy> abattoir: yah that's simple, but I was trying to right click with in the folder, but not many shortcuts for konqueror, like in gnome ctrl+h shows hidden files does kon. have a short cut for that?
[05:12] <gioacchino> but firefox crash when I open a page with flash
[05:12] <Kwukki> yo can set one in konqueror
[05:12] <gioacchino> Window with title "Libero Web Mail - Mozilla Firefox" is not responding. This window belongs to application firefox-bin (PID=5105, hostname=localhost).
[05:12] <gioacchino> Do you wish to terminate this application? (All unsaved data in this application will be lost.)
[05:13] <abattoir> Cntryboy: i'm not aware of a shortcut for Konqueror, but I do View->Show hidden files
[05:13] <gioacchino> before the istallation of flash plugin firefox not crash...
[05:13] <abattoir> Cntryboy: but for certain Dialogs, like the file open dialog F8 does the trick
[05:15] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> where is the switch to admin mode on the process table?
[05:15] <gioacchino> hoe to resolve this problem?
[05:15] <gioacchino> I can disable flash?
[05:15] <Cntryboy> k
[05:15] <sensei> gioacchino: Remove the flash plugin
[05:16] <gioacchino> ok
[05:16] <sensei> Or at least move it out of firefox's way :)
[05:16] <Cntryboy> shoot the easy way I did flash this time, was downloaded it, extracted it, copied those 2 files to a folder called .plugin and told konqueror to find it..
[05:16] <gioacchino> hoe see flash
[05:16] <gioacchino> now ?
[05:16] <gioacchino> how
[05:17] <gioacchino> how to see flash noe ?
[05:17] <Cntryboy> konqu. was different than the browser with gnome
[05:17] <sensei> gioacchino: You can't ?
[05:17] <sensei> You just removed the plugin
[05:17] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i use the msfonts that i installed??/
[05:17] <gioacchino> [17:17]  <sensei> gioacchino: You can't ? yes it tell me istall missing plugin
[05:17] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: they should appear along w/ the other fonts in a font dialog :)
[05:18] <sensei> gioacchino: No, you can't.. Sorry, retorical question
[05:18] <gioacchino> eheh
[05:18] <gioacchino> ok
[05:18] <Cntryboy> sensei: the codecs that is taking its sweet time with my 2.1KB dialup, does it have codecs for divx,svcd,dvd,wmv ect?
[05:18] <gioacchino> thank you
[05:18] <sensei> At least not with ff, you can try another browser
[05:18] <sensei> Cntryboy: As the name implies it has codecs for 'all' ;)
[05:19] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: yes, they should
[05:19] <sensei> I think it even does .mov and .rm
[05:19] <abattoir> Cntryboy: doesnt divx, xvid work out of the box? depends on the container i guess...
[05:19] <gioacchino> you can use vlc
[05:19] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: they dont?
[05:19] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: do u know what they are called . couse i dont see anything new there
[05:20] <gioacchino> caffeine crash with dvx avi ecc
[05:20] <gioacchino> vlc work with all format..
[05:20] <sdolnack> how unsafe is it using "unstable" wireless drivers
[05:20] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: you might need to restart X...
[05:20] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: have you done that?
[05:20] <sensei> sdolnack: Not unsafe at all really
[05:20] <Cntryboy> vlc is buggy
[05:21] <sensei> sdolnack:  It just means that they may crash and not work..
[05:21] <sdolnack> rly? coz it keeps stressing on the page how important it is for end users to use stable releases
[05:21] <sdolnack> and that the others are for dev/testing only
[05:21] <Cntryboy> sensei: is there a way I can see what codecs I have as of now that kaffeine uses?
[05:21] <sensei> sdolnack: If there is a stable release, I suggest you use it :)
[05:21] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: yes , i did
[05:21] <sensei> Cntryboy: Don't know, I don't use kaffeine
[05:21] <Cntryboy> sensei: oh also kaffeine has a line through speaker icon it doesn't give me sound why?
[05:22] <gioacchino> Cntryboy: dont use caffeine it crash with avi rm ecc ecc, use vlc it work with all format
[05:22] <sensei> Cntryboy: Did you do the mp3-steps?
[05:22] <sensei> !mp3
[05:22] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:22] <sensei> Install the restricted stuff?
[05:22] <Cntryboy> ive used vlc
[05:23] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: installed through adept?
[05:23] <gioacchino> how to use samba?
[05:23] <Cntryboy> but it was buggy opening stuff, take me sometimes 3 tries to get it working if it did finally end up working on some videos
[05:23] <gioacchino> !samba
[05:23] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:23] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ is there a msttcorefonts folder?
[05:24] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: yes , there is
[05:25] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: ok, with .ttf files in it i assume ;)
[05:25] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: yup  .tff
[05:25] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: ttf
[05:25] <dabbler> any possibility of entering a local directory in sources.list?
[05:26] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: ok , let me see if i have those names on the font list
[05:26] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: ok
[05:30] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> hmm , looks like i do , are all of these truetype fonts?
[05:30] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: i should have looked more closely
[05:30] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: are all of these truetype fonts?
[05:31] <abattoir> yes, .ttf->True type Fonts right?
[05:31] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: lol , sounds about right
[05:31] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: thanks a lot
[05:31] <abattoir> :D
[05:40] <oem> hello evry body
[05:40] <oem> i am Moustafa
[05:40] <oem> 18 male
[05:40] <oem> from Egypt cairo
[05:40] <oem> any hot girl here?
[05:41] <sensei> lol?
[05:41] <oem> what is your boobs size
[05:41] <oem> just tell me
[05:41] <oem> and i will shoose the best
[05:41] <tomek_> Hi
[05:41] <sensei> What makes you think you're in a position to 'shoose' anybody ?
[05:41] <tomek_> I have a problem
[05:41] <oem> hi
[05:42] <oem> what?
[05:42] <oem> tell me
[05:42] <oem> i can help you
[05:42] <tomek_> tomek@tomek:~$ glxinfo | grep "direct"
[05:42] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:42] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:42] <tequila_> hi
[05:42] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:42] <tomek_> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[05:42] <oem> hey hey
[05:42] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:42] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:42] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:42] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:42] <tomek_> tomek@tomek:~$
[05:42] <oem> forget about that
[05:42] <sensei> !pastebin
[05:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:42] <oem> no problem man
[05:43] <sensei> tomek_: What drivers have you installed?
[05:43] <tomek_> glx
[05:43] <oem> i want to see a busy cat
[05:43] <oem> Senioreta
[05:43] <tequila_> i use edgy and the included kernel 2.6.17 - can you tell me, where the module mmc_block is?
[05:43] <oem> Amigo
[05:43] <tomek_> I have GeForce 5200
[05:43] <tomek_> FX Go
[05:43] <oem> wow
[05:44] <oem> fantastic
[05:44] <oem> iam happy for taht
[05:44] <oem> for that
[05:44] <oem> tomek
[05:44] <tomek_> what can Ia do it ??
[05:44] <sensei> !nvidia
[05:44] <oem> you have a beautiful card
[05:44] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i start the ksysguard as the administrator?
[05:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <oem> take care of it
[05:44] <sensei> imbrandon, crimsun wakey
[05:45] <tomek_> hmm ok
[05:45] <tomek_> i look for them
[05:45] <sensei> haha, have to hand it to him though.. "You have a beautiful card, take care of it" is quite funny
[05:45] <oem> do you work?
[05:45] <tomek_> sory but my english is not good
[05:45] <oem> thanks
[05:45] <oem> and
[05:45] <oem> don't play with matches
[05:45] <tequila_> because i need it for the SD cardslot in my laptop :(
[05:45] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> tomek_: a co chcesz
[05:46] <sensei> haha I'm actually lolling from 'you have a beautiful card'
[05:46] <tomek_> tomek@tomek:~$ glxinfo | grep "direct"
[05:46] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:46] <oem> hahahaha
[05:46] <oem> thanks man
[05:46] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:46] <gioacchino> I hve a problem with samba
[05:46] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:46] <tomek_> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[05:46] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:46] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:46] <oem> but really it's wanderful
[05:46] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:46] <tomek_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:46] <tomek_> tomek@tomek:~$
[05:46] <sensei> tomek_: ffs..
[05:46] <gioacchino> root@gioacchino-desktop:/etc# mount -a
[05:46] <gioacchino> ERROR: Unable to open credentials file!
[05:46] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> install the driver
[05:46] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> then reconfigure the xserver
[05:47] <oem> i miss love , like a desert miss the rain
[05:47] <sensei> oem: I bet you'll find it here
[05:48] <oem> really
[05:48] <oem> i hope taht
[05:48] <oem> i hope that
[05:48] <oem> i want to work
[05:48] <oem> i can work copmuter engneering
[05:49] <oem> on database
[05:49] <oem> or
[05:49] <oem> on fixing
[05:49] <oem> anything
[05:49] <oem> i have a dangerus mind
[05:49] <oem> believe me
[05:49] <Jeff_> I have loaded the AREO-AIO super krumba them but it is tranparent how can I configure the theme?
[05:49] <oem> i want to life
[05:49] <sensei> oem: Dangerous mind?
[05:49] <oem> iam from Egypt
[05:49] <oem> and in there
[05:49] <pygi> !ops
[05:49] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, or imbrandon
[05:49] <oem> no work
[05:49] <sensei> So everyone from Egypt is dangerous ?
[05:49] <sensei> Or 'has dangerous minds' +
[05:50] <c0ld> hey I just installed <IP_ADDRESS>-grsec kernel and right when it says its going to boot the kernel it hangs
[05:50] <abattoir> pygi: :D
[05:50] <c0ld> can somone help me out ?
[05:50] <pygi> oem, please calm down, thank you ^_^
[05:51] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i start the ksysguard as the administrator?
[05:52] <imbrandon> pygi, ?
[05:53] <pygi> imachine, "oem" dude = kick please :) thanks
[05:53] <sensei> VieLGuS-KuTaS: kdesu ksysguard ?
[05:53] <imbrandon> oem, are we done being a pain ?
[05:56] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> sensei: tried that , it cant find it , cant find x-sysguard either
[05:56] <Jreinaldo> Hei! Could someone help me?
[05:56] <Jreinaldo> Here is my problem: I have 2 HDs, each one with many partitions. When I try to install the Kubuntu on the 1st HD the " qtparted" give me an error: " Critical error during ped_disk_nwe".
[05:56] <Jreinaldo> If I by pass this error, I can choose the partitions to install it. But when I try to install i get the error " No root file system", even I had the "/"(root file system and the "swap" partition.
[05:56] <sensei> VieLGuS-KuTaS: Well, do you have it installed? :O
[05:56] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> sensei: yup , i cant run it from the menu
[05:56] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> sensei: i can
[05:57] <padi> kubuntu printing: using localhost:631 I can't complete the adding of a printer because neither the username nor the root user work when asked for the login on localhost, what's wrong with cups and kubuntu?
[05:57] <imbrandon> pygi, he seems to have shushed now, if it becomes a problem again just ping me
[05:57] <sensei> VieLGuS-KuTaS: Check properties for the menu entry and see what command is being executed
[05:57] <pygi> imbrandon, oki, thanks ^_^
[05:57] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> sensei: ksysguard
[05:58] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> sensei: ksysguard % U
[05:58] <imachine> pygi, ?
[05:59] <imachine> oem?
[05:59] <sensei> VieLGuS-KuTaS: Can you execute that without kdesu (skip the ) in alt+f2?
[05:59] <imbrandon> imachine, he propply was trying to say imbrandon and tab completed on im<tab>
[05:59] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:59] <imbrandon> probbably*
[05:59] <imachine> ok
[05:59] <imachine> ;]
[05:59] <imachine> nevermind
[05:59] <imachine> ;p
[05:59] <sensei> probably*
[05:59] <imachine> just when i see my name and kick
[05:59] <imachine> i wonder whats up
[05:59] <imachine> ;)
[05:59] <pygi> imbrandon, ah, right :P
[05:59] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> sensei: yes , i can run it wothout kdesu
[06:00] <sensei> VieLGuS-KuTaS: Try it from konsole
[06:00] <sensei> So you can see the output
[06:01] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> sensei: what would the cammond be ? sudo ksysguard?
[06:01] <sensei> Sure
[06:02] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> sensei: well , thats works
[06:02] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> sensei: ty
[06:02] <sensei> np
[06:03] <imbrandon> anyone here work with nfs shares at all ?
[06:06] <padi> hey come one guys
[06:07] <padi> there must be someone using PRINTING and kubuntu
[06:07] <pygi> imbrandon, what you need...I worked with that ^_^
[06:08] <imbrandon> pygi, http://pastebin.ca/82499
[06:08] <osho> sddddf
[06:08] <imbrandon> pygi, ^^ both are ubuntu boxes
[06:08] <padi> ??
[06:08] <osho> ??
[06:09] <pygi> imbrandon, so basicly you wanna make a NFS share? :)
[06:09] <imbrandon> pygi, yea
[06:09] <padi> osho: cups printing! ever heard of?
[06:10] <pygi> imbrandon, hopefully NFS port is open?
[06:10] <imbrandon> pygi, yea its a local lan
[06:10] <imbrandon> i would assume so
[06:10] <carsten> how can i move a kubuntu instalation from one harddisk to another??
[06:10] <imbrandon> 192.168.1*
[06:11] <imbrandon> carsten, dd
[06:11] <pygi> imbrandon, please check...yes, but ubuntu has closed ports, remember? :)
[06:11] <imbrandon> pygi, how LOL
[06:11] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> does anyone know if any repo has the jre 1.05.07 debs?
[06:12] <gioacchino> I have a problem with samba
[06:12] <imbrandon> gioacchino, what kinda problem ?
[06:12] <gioacchino> oot@gioacchino-desktop:/etc# mount -a
[06:12] <gioacchino> ERROR: Unable to open credentials file!
[06:12] <imbrandon> gioacchino, sudo mount -a
[06:13] <gioacchino> imbrandon:  I had a root shell
[06:13] <gioacchino> ERROR: Unable to open credentials file!
[06:13] <gioacchino> gioacchino@gioacchino-desktop:~$
[06:14] <gioacchino> tell me error with root and with sudo ...
[06:14] <imbrandon> hrm looks like a fstab prblem
[06:14] <imbrandon> hard to tell without more info
[06:14] <imbrandon> pygi, wht ports need to be open ?
[06:14] <pygi> imbrandon, what about I write you a little tutorial now? :P
[06:14] <gioacchino> I had add  this line on fstab
[06:14] <gioacchino> /servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  defaults,uid=0,gid=0,credentials=~/.smbpasswd,umask=777  0  0
[06:14] <imbrandon> pygi, sure
[06:15] <pygi> imbrandon, 2049 is NFS if I remember correctly
[06:15] <lied> hello i have just crashed my X, how can i create a default xorg.conf
[06:15] <imbrandon> gioacchino, it needs to be the full path not ~/.smbpasswd
[06:15] <pygi> lied, sudo dexconf
[06:16] <lied> danke
[06:16] <gioacchino> what's thefull path ?
[06:16] <imbrandon> gioacchino, where ever the file is
[06:16] <imbrandon> like /home/gioacchino
[06:17] <imbrandon> and you probbly want a diffrent uid and gid
[06:17] <gioacchino> credentials=home/gioacchino/.smbpasswd    is ok ??
[06:17] <imbrandon> no
[06:18] <imbrandon> its /home/.....
[06:18] <imbrandon> and depends on if thats where the file is
[06:18] <imbrandon> gioacchino, do this ...
[06:19] <pygi> imbrandon, mail pls ? :)
[06:19] <gioacchino> ?
[06:20] <imbrandon> gioacchino,  /servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  uid=gioacchino,gid=admin,username=windows_user,password=windows_pass,rw  0  0
[06:20] <imbrandon> pygi<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:20] <pygi> imbrandon, right, silly me :P
[06:20] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:20] <Snake> imbrandon: wazzap
[06:20] <imbrandon> sup Snake
[06:20] <Snake> imbrandon: doesnt your wife/kids get mad at you on your comp all day? :P :)
[06:21] <imbrandon> Snake, i'm divorced ( and no they are on the comp too )
[06:21] <Snake> imbrandon: ahh okay and LOL! gotcha :)
[06:21] <imbrandon> Snake, since you know it is my job and all ;)
[06:21] <pygi> imbrandon, o yes, you running portmap?
[06:21] <Snake> imbrandon: As far as I can tell you chill in ubuntu rooms all day:P
[06:21] <imbrandon> pygi, yes
[06:21] <pygi> started before the nfs?
[06:21] <imbrandon> Snake, thats te great thing about working for yourself
[06:22] <gioacchino> imbrandon: thanks it work!!
[06:22] <imbrandon> pygi, yea i think
[06:22] <imbrandon> gioacchino, np
[06:22] <pygi> imbrandon, share like this: "<IP_ADDRESS>:/mnt/cdrom /x2x/mnt/cdrom nfs rsize=1024,wsize=1024,noauto   0 0"  ?
[06:23] <gioacchino> imbrandon: it tell me only root can use it
[06:23] <imbrandon> pygi, i was trying to do it on commandline before fstab to make sure it worked
[06:23] <gioacchino> how use it with my user ?
[06:23] <imbrandon> gioacchino, did you use -->  /servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  uid=gioacchino,gid=admin,username=windows_user,password=windows_pass,rw  0  0
[06:23] <pygi> imbrandon, right, right
[06:24] <coma_> any developers in here interested in working on a RTS?
[06:24] <imbrandon> #
[06:24] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:/media$ sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/storage/ /media/nfs
[06:24] <imbrandon> #
[06:24] <imbrandon> mount to NFS server '<IP_ADDRESS>' failed.
[06:24] <imbrandon> RTS ?
[06:25] <coma_> Real time strategy
[06:25] <imbrandon> ah no
[06:25] <pygi> coma_, !!!
[06:25] <coma_> yeah?
[06:25] <sysrpl> how can i search for installed packages?
[06:25] <pygi> coma_, this is not RTS development channel
[06:25] <pygi> imbrandon, could you look at ur server logs if you have a firewall?
[06:25] <sysrpl> i am trying to remove the mono stuff and sudo apt-get remove mono yields no packages to be removed
[06:26] <coma_> is it against TOS to ask if anyones interested?
[06:26] <imbrandon> pygi, nope no firewall
[06:26] <jbwiv> guys, anyone running amaroK 1.4.1 on dapper?
[06:26] <gioacchino> Could not mount device.
[06:26] <gioacchino> The reported error was:
[06:26] <gioacchino> mount: only root can mount /servername/sharename on /media/mountname
[06:26] <pygi> imbrandon, then the port is just blocked ^_^
[06:26] <sysrpl> yet typing the mono compiler mcs at the terminal still shows it's installed
[06:26] <imbrandon> sysrpl, run " sudo dpkg-query -l |grep ii|grep mono " and remove all those
[06:26] <gioacchino> imbrandon:  yes I use  /servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  uid=gioacchino,gid=admin,username=windows_user,password=windows_pass,rw  0  0
[06:26] <coma_> pygi : is it against TOS to ask if anyones interested?
[06:26] <stoic> yeah i am
[06:27] <gioacchino> but it tell me
[06:27] <gioacchino> Could not mount device.
[06:27] <gioacchino> [18:26]  <gioacchino> The reported error was:
[06:27] <gioacchino> [18:26]  <gioacchino> mount: only root can mount /servername/sharename on /media/mountname
[06:27] <sysrpl> where is the grep ii?
[06:27] <imbrandon> gioacchino, only root can mount it yes, but any user can use it
[06:27] <imbrandon> sysrpl, paste that
[06:27] <pygi> imbrandon, I also hope you have "portmap: <client ip>/<IP_ADDRESS>" in /etc/hosts
[06:27] <imbrandon> with no quotes
[06:28] <sysrpl> i did, and it worked ... i was just wondering what ii was
[06:28] <imbrandon> pygi, ahhh no i dont
[06:28] <pygi> imbrandon, please do ^_^
[06:28] <imbrandon> ii means installed
[06:28] <sysrpl> oh, thanks
[06:28] <mikearthur> Is it safe to mount /var/ as noexec with ubuntu?
[06:28] <sysrpl> :)
[06:28] <pygi> coma_, not really :P
[06:28] <gioacchino> root@gioacchino-desktop:/etc# mount.smbfs service mountpoint [-n]  workgroup=MSHOME
[06:28] <gioacchino> Could not resolve mount point mountpoint
[06:29] <coma_> pygi : phew! didnt wanna get banned off my fav channel! we are desperate though
[06:29] <pygi> coma_, eh, good luck in making a game ^_^
[06:30] <coma_> pygi : its made, we need help recoding the engine so it can be sort of...an open RTS engine....
[06:30] <pygi> coma_, oh, you wanna open source a game?
[06:31] <pygi> or?
[06:31] <imbrandon> pygi, ok i got that in the server now but i still get the same error on the client, i think its a client problem
[06:31] <coma_> its already open, its just a lot of it is hardcoded....
[06:31] <gioacchino> imbrandon: I can use shared printer ?
[06:31] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:/media$ showmount -e <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:31] <imbrandon> mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered
[06:31] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:/media$
[06:31] <pygi> imbrandon, I would rather say you have to open port on server ^_^
[06:32] <imbrandon> pygi, i have http and smb shares on that server and dident have to open any ports
[06:32] <imbrandon> pygi, how do i open the port then, i have no firewall running on it
[06:33] <sysrpl> imbrando: i am about to reinstall all this mono stuff from sources to be compiled ... afterwards sice they are compiled (instead of installed through apt-get) will the show up in the package cache?
[06:33] <pygi> hm,sec, lemme try to think of something else
[06:33] <imbrandon> sysrpl, not as ii
[06:33] <imbrandon> pygi, ok
[06:33] <imbrandon> pygi, whats the mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered mean
[06:33] <sysrpl> imbrandon: how will they show up then if i need to remove them in the future?
[06:34] <imbrandon> sysrpl, if they are compiled from source they you done
[06:34] <imbrandon> dont*
[06:34] <imbrandon> thats the problem with compiling programs from source
[06:34] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:34] <sysrpl> imbrandon: oh
[06:34] <sysrpl> imbrandon: well how do i track what's installed on the system by way of compiled installs?
[06:34] <imbrandon> sysrpl, if you want to beable to remove them laster look into making debs from the source and install the debs
[06:35] <imbrandon> sysrpl, there isnt a way
[06:35] <sysrpl> :(
[06:35] <gatekeeper> sysrpl: I think you want to use checkinstall
[06:35] <sysrpl> well if i ned to upgrade from updated sources will that screw me up?
[06:35] <imbrandon> sysrpl, probbly not you just compile and install over the old
[06:35] <sysrpl> okay
[06:35] <imbrandon> in the case of MONO
[06:36] <imbrandon> not all are that easy though
[06:36] <sysrpl> that's what i wanted to know
[06:36] <imbrandon> sysrpl, look into checkinstall
[06:36] <sysrpl> ty much
[06:36] <sysrpl> okay
[06:36] <imbrandon> ./configure;make;checkinstall
[06:36] <sysrpl> what does that do differently?
[06:37] <gatekeeper> sysrpl: I don't think imbrandon is entirely correct I think if you use checkinstall they will show up in your package manager as installed packages
[06:37] <imbrandon> it makes a psudo deb from the source that you can install ( but only works for the computer you make the deb on, dont redistribute it )
[06:37] <imbrandon> gatekeeper, yea checkinstall it will becosue its a deb, but not from source
[06:38] <sysrpl> make;sudo make install ... change to make;sudo make checkinstall ?
[06:38] <pygi> imbrandon, mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered it means that nfsd or mountd is not running on the server
[06:38] <imbrandon> yea replace sudo make install to checkinstall
[06:38] <gatekeeper> imbrandon: doesn't ./configure;make;checkinstall get hime where he wants to be?
[06:38] <pookierox> just FYI ... amarok 1.4.1 with last.fm radio is SWEEET
[06:38] <sysrpl> i need sudo for that though right?
[06:39] <imbrandon> sysrpl, yea
[06:39] <imbrandon> probbly
[06:39] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i specify a path for update-alternatives --config java??
[06:39] <pygi> imbrandon, you get it? :)
[06:39] <imbrandon> pygi, checking now
[06:40] <imbrandon> w00t
[06:40] <imbrandon> thanks pygi that was it
[06:40] <imbrandon> brandon@server:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start
[06:40] <imbrandon>  * Exporting directories for NFS kernel daemon...                                                                                [ ok ]
[06:40] <imbrandon>  * Starting rpc nfsd...                                                                                [ ok ]
[06:40] <imbrandon>  * Starting rpc mountd...                                                                                [ ok ]
[06:40] <imbrandon> brandon@server:~$
[06:40] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:40] <pygi> imbrandon, should I call for ops? :P
[06:40] <pygi>
[06:41] <pygi> /kick imbrandon
[06:41] <pygi> congrats imbrandon :)
[06:41] <imbrandon> thanks pygi ;)
[06:41] <imbrandon> thats been buggin me for days
[06:41] <pygi> you are welcome ^_^
[06:41] <imbrandon> lol
[06:42] <pygi> just you laugh at me :P
[06:42] <imbrandon> laugh at myself
[06:42] <pygi> ok, now I can erase this beginners article to NFS world :P
[06:42] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:42] <imbrandon> hahaha
[06:42] <pygi> nice :)
[06:44] <pygi> imbrandon, problems are usually big, but solutions are trivial
[06:44] <pygi> if solution is complex, then it's not a solution
[06:44] <imbrandon> hahaha how so very true
[06:44] <pygi> imbrandon, :)
[06:45] <pygi> anyway, congrats, I must look for some laptop ^_^ Deciding beetween two currently mostly ^_^
[06:45] <imbrandon> if the solution isnt kubuntu you have the wrong problem ;)
[06:45] <pygi> imbrandon, !!! lol !!!
[06:45] <imbrandon> pygi, i like my iBook ;)
[06:46] <imbrandon> works great
[06:46] <imbrandon> and everything in it just works(tm)
[06:46] <imbrandon> hehe
[06:46] <pygi> I am not sure I can get iBook in this country =P Just that dual Mac laptop thingies :P
[06:47] <imbrandon> yea coreduo's are nice too
[06:47] <pygi> right, but I don't wanna pay 5k$ for a laptop :P
[06:47] <imbrandon> ouch
[06:47] <imbrandon> they are about 1.5k$ here
[06:48] <pygi> imbrandon, I'll try to find some Ibook...perhaps international order ^_^
[06:48] <imbrandon> ebay ;)
[06:48] <pygi> never trust ebay !!!
[06:48] <pygi> joke, ebay doesn't have much apples
[06:48] <imbrandon> true
[06:49] <imbrandon> woot now i can put my /home/brandon dir on the nfs and use it on my lappy or desktop ;)
[06:49] <pygi> imbrandon, aha ^_^
[06:50] <sysrpl> sudo checkinstall thank you for the check install .. works good, though it's a bit verbose
[06:50] <MDCore_> hey guys. I'm busy switching from WinXP to Kubuntu.. and there's a few app equivalents that I'm looking for (or useful alternatives, of course). I use tortoiseSVN regularly on win.. is there a kde alternative?
[06:50] <imbrandon> MDCore subversion
[06:50] <pygi> imbrandon, http://www.mikronis.hr/shop/item.asp?itemid=2362&catid=174
[06:50] <pygi> this one?
[06:51] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i specify a path for update-alternatives --config java??
[06:51] <imbrandon> pygi, haha thats almost an exact thing i have, yes it works great
[06:51] <imbrandon> VieLGuS-KuTaS, not sure if you can
[06:51] <pygi> imbrandon, there is this one as well: http://www.mikronis.hr/shop/item.asp?itemid=2363
[06:52] <pygi> MDCore, there is, it just doesnt look the same...search at Adept "svn"
[06:52] <pygi> and you should get something
[06:52] <pygi> imbrandon, what about that second one? same as you have?
[06:52] <omeow> How come my printer always prints an extra blank page when I print something with it?
[06:52] <imbrandon> yea i have the superdrive and bigger hdd
[06:52] <imbrandon> that the second one has
[06:53] <pygi> ah, right ^_^
[06:53] <MDCore_> k.
[06:53] <pygi> imbrandon, so you suggest to take that instead of regular laptop?^_^
[06:53] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> imbrandon: i used the installer from .bin and it wont see it , so how can i set it as default when it doesnt see it and i cant specify the path?
[06:53] <pygi> imbrandon, http://www.mikronis.hr/shop/item.asp?itemid=3562 !!!!!
[06:54] <imbrandon> pygi, here is my iBook running http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/mol.png
[06:54] <imbrandon> lol nice pygi
[06:54] <pygi> imbrandon, no really, do you suggest me to buy Ibook instead of regular laptop?
[06:54] <imbrandon> VieLGuS-KuTaS, i dont know bro, i think it only works for pkgs
[06:55] <pygi> Mac-On-Linux? Emulator/Virtualization?
[06:55] <imbrandon> pygi, yea i like them much better , they run very smooth and have a long batterie life
[06:55] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> imbrandon: ok , ty
[06:55] <imbrandon> pygi, virt, it runs your osx install alongside linux ( from another partition )
[06:56] <pygi> imbrandon, right, right, I couldnt go without adium if I had Apple ^_^
[06:56] <imbrandon> only works for ppc though
[06:56] <imbrandon> heheh
[06:56] <pygi> right ^_^
[06:56] <MikeStyle> Hi, i have a big problem
[06:56] <imbrandon> yup thats my little green duck
[06:56] <zorglu1> imbrandon: aware of any solution to run macosx on linuc pc ? im search something to do that ? like qemu is able to do so ?
[06:56] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> imbrandon: do u know if any repo has the latest sun-java jre?
[06:57] <pygi> zorglu1, no, not qemu ^_^
[06:57] <imbrandon> zorglu1, x86 ? pearpc
[06:57] <pygi> imbrandon, is that open source? (pearpc)
[06:57] <imbrandon> VieLGuS-KuTaS, only the official one
[06:57] <imbrandon> pygi, yea
[06:57] <pygi> uh, nice :)
[06:57] <MDCore_> what do u guys recommend as a gui text editor. I edit PHP, ASP, python... ruby.... lots of HTML+JS+Code.
[06:57] <pygi> zorglu1, you couuld run MacOS on x86 in Qemu if you had super-computer
[06:58] <zorglu1> pygi: you mean this would be slow ?
[06:58] <pygi> zorglu1, aha ^_^
[06:58] <zorglu1> so ?
[06:58] <imbrandon> http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/
[06:58] <imbrandon> powerpc emulator
[06:58] <zorglu1> imbrandon: yep looking at the screenshot right now :)
[06:58] <pygi> imbrandon, right, but just on apple architecture :P
[06:58] <zorglu1> imbrandon: do you know if it work ok ?
[06:59] <MikeStyle> Guys, i installed a sorta beta distro on my second hard drive in my main machine (40 gb) and the main (80 gb) has windows on it. within windows i formatted the drive (40 gb) because i wasnt using it. now my computer gets a grub error on bootup...grub error 17 if the drive is enabled in bios and error 21 if disabled... they are both sata...can anyone help??
[06:59] <imbrandon> zorglu1, no idea, i use a real ppc ;)
[06:59] <zorglu1> imbrandon: ok :) i will test then :)
[06:59] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, boot from a windows recovery disk and run "fixmbr"
[06:59] <pygi> zorglu1, he can use virtualization, you cant
[06:59] <marijoze> join #almeria
[07:00] <zorglu1> pygi: man answer my previous question
[07:00] <MikeStyle> imbrandon, windows recovery...ok i think i have one. thank you!
[07:01] <imbrandon> pygi, you know parrellels for osx ? mol is kinda like that
[07:01] <MikeStyle> imbrandon, that in no way will affect my files right?
[07:01] <deuce868> anyone have first hand knowledge of getting sd card readers built into laptops going? I've seen that it's supposed to have been put in place with dapper?
[07:01] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, correct you just need to fix the MBR
[07:02] <MikeStyle> i believe dell has a 2 gb recovery partition called dellutility... but ive never seen it on boot menu ... 0_o
[07:02] <imbrandon> deuce868, might check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[07:02] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, no
[07:02] <imbrandon> not the recovery partition
[07:03] <MikeStyle> k
[07:03] <imbrandon> a real windows cd
[07:03] <MikeStyle> k
[07:03] <imbrandon> then choose recovery from that
[07:03] <MikeStyle> k
[07:03] <imbrandon> otherwise you WILL loose data
[07:03] <imbrandon> once at the recovery console just type "fixmbr" it will give you a warning etc etc etc, tell it yes
[07:03] <imbrandon> then your reboot and are golden
[07:04] <imbrandon> takes about 5 min total
[07:05] <pygi> imbrandon, mol?
[07:05] <pygi> zorglu1, which one?
[07:05] <pygi> imbrandon, did I miss something? :P
[07:05] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, if you have an old windows95/98 floppy bootdisk arround you can use it too by booting from it and running "fdisk /mbr"
[07:05] <imbrandon> pygi, mol == mac-on-linux
[07:05] <deuce868> imbrandon, yea I was looking there. Those that are close to my laptop's model number all have that the sd card readers as untested
[07:05] <MikeStyle> imbrandon, lol no. the cd worked i think
[07:05] <pygi> imbrandon, ah, right, sorry ^_^
[07:05] <imbrandon> ;)
[07:06] <pygi> battery 6 hours??!!!
[07:06] <imbrandon> deuce868, it SHOULD work out of the box as they are just usb interfaces though
[07:06] <imbrandon> pygi, yea my batterie last a LONG time in my iBook
[07:06] <pygi> but it doesnt have kind of perfomarmance as turon 4000 or Centrino 1.86?
[07:06] <MikeStyle> omg imbrandon thank u so much
[07:06] <imbrandon> thats one of the things i like about it
[07:06] <MikeStyle> it worked
[07:06] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, np
[07:07] <MikeStyle> ill never install novell linux enterprise desktop 10 again
[07:07] <pygi> imbrandon, ok, and does that wireless card works on Linux?
[07:07] <pygi> MikeStyle, :)
[07:07] <deuce868> imachine, that's the thing. I've seen some posts in the forums say it should work out of the box with dapper. I think this is my card in lspci
[07:07] <deuce868> 0000:08:06.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 803b
[07:07] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, lol any linux will do that if you just "delete it" but thats how to fix it ;)
[07:07] <MikeStyle> imbrandon i never had problems with ubuntu or kubuntu and that ...
[07:07] <imbrandon> ouch yea
[07:08] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, youve never just "deleted them" then ;)
[07:08] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> whats a ls command to only show symbolic links?
[07:08] <MikeStyle> imbrandon, true
[07:08] <imbrandon> VieLGuS-KuTaS, ls -la will show links also other files
[07:09] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> k ,ty
[07:09] <pygi> imbrandon, any chance for a response? I promise, thats my final question about apple :)
[07:09] <MikeStyle> anyone here good with windows and familiar with norton ghost?
[07:09] <pygi> MikeStyle, !!!
[07:10] <MikeStyle> pygi !!! ?
[07:10] <imbrandon> pygi, what question?
[07:11] <imbrandon> sorry was afk a moment
[07:11] <pygi> imbrandon, no worries :) does wireless card in that ibook works on linux?
[07:11] <imbrandon> pygi, oh yea right out of the box with dapper, airports use the orinoco drivers ( no config needed cept your wep key )
[07:12] <pygi> o, good to know ^_^
[07:12] <Random_Transit> hey, I'm looking for people from Canada, specifically Ontario to help start an Ubuntu street team, help get the word out about Ubuntu
[07:12] <MikeStyle> woohoo norton ghost copying all data from C:/ to G:/
[07:12] <MikeStyle> g being a western digital MyBook
[07:12] <imbrandon> airport classic usees the orinoco and airport extreeme uses BCMxx
[07:13] <imbrandon> but both work out of the box
[07:13] <pygi> imbrandon, right, well, it seems this is extreme airport ;)
[07:13] <MikeStyle> i heard mac laptops run ALOT better under linux
[07:13] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, i like mine ;)
[07:13] <pygi> MikeStyle, you mean apple laptops !!!
[07:13] <abattoir> pygi: thinking of getting a MBP ? :P
[07:14] <MikeStyle> pygi, why is it called macbook then/
[07:14] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, mine is an iBook not a mpb ;)
[07:14] <pygi> abattoir, just iBook
[07:14] <MikeStyle> why not applebook?
[07:14] <MikeStyle> lol
[07:14] <abattoir> pygi: you mean MacBook?
[07:14] <MikeStyle> im content with my dell inspiron 5100
[07:14] <pygi> abattoir, no, I mean Ibook :P
 pygi: you mean MacBook?
[07:14] <pygi> erh
[07:14] <pygi> http://www.mikronis.hr/shop/item.asp?itemid=2363&catid=174
[07:15] <abattoir> pygi: ah ok, the black one looks swanky :)
[07:15] <pygi> abattoir, http://www.mikronis.hr/shop/item.asp?itemid=3562&catid=174 :P
[07:15] <pygi> (this is the one I wont buy :P)
[07:15] <imbrandon> abattoir, the ppc ones use less batterie ;)
[07:15] <MikeStyle> at work i salvaged an internal wireless out of a broken inspiron 5150, installed but kubuntu didnt pickit  up :(
[07:15] <pygi> MikeStyle, chip?
[07:15] <imbrandon> chipset ?
[07:15] <MikeStyle> pygi pentium 4
[07:16] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, wireless chipset ;)
[07:16] <abattoir> MikeStyle: the wireless chipset
[07:16] <pygi> MikeStyle, wireless pentium 4 chipset????!
[07:16] <MikeStyle> same exact as 5150
[07:16] <imbrandon> ahahaha
[07:16] <MikeStyle> ah
[07:16] <MikeStyle> hold on
[07:16] <MikeStyle> jeeze
[07:16] <MikeStyle> need to take it apart now
[07:16] <pygi> I almost thought I missed entire decade or so :P
[07:16] <imbrandon> afk , gonna go migrate my /home to the nfs server ;)
[07:16] <abattoir> imbrandon, pygi, hasnt ibook production stopped?
[07:16] <MikeStyle> err cant find my screwdriver...
[07:16] <imbrandon> abattoir, yea but there is still a ton out there and they run great
[07:16] <MikeStyle> BROADCOM
[07:17] <pygi> abattoir, not sure, perhaps yes ^_^
[07:17] <MikeStyle> its broadcom
[07:17] <abattoir> then pygi must be able to get a discount...
[07:17] <abattoir> !bcm43xx
[07:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:17] <pygi> abattoir, not really :-/
[07:17] <abattoir> hmm, my ubotu entry didnt get added :(
[07:17] <imbrandon> abattoir, i payed about 300$ for my iBook
[07:18] <imbrandon> abattoir, are you on the editors list ?
[07:18] <pygi> imbrandon, that ibook costs 1900$ here !!!
[07:18] <imbrandon> pygi, ouch
[07:18] <pygi> send me one ? :P
[07:18] <abattoir> imbrandon: nope, it was forwarded to #ubuntu-ops
[07:18] <imbrandon> heheh
[07:18] <imbrandon> abattoir, ahh
[07:18] <pygi> imbrandon, I would pay, ofcourse ^_^
[07:18] <abattoir> MikeStyle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:18] <pygi> just look at the difference ... 300$ compared to 1900$ :P
[07:19] <imbrandon> pygi, i got mine from ebay ;(
[07:19] <MikeStyle> oh god they want me to set up ndiswrapper
[07:19] <pygi> hm, sec
[07:19] <pygi> imbrandon, right, right
[07:20] <abattoir> MikeStyle: the dapper kernel has a bcm43xx module
[07:20] <MikeStyle> abattoir, then why doesnt it work/
[07:20] <pygi> imbrandon, http://computers.search.ebay.com/ibook_Laptops-Notebooks_W0QQsacatZ51148
[07:20] <pygi> nothing useful
[07:20] <abattoir> MikeStyle: section 1.2 ?
[07:20] <abattoir> MikeStyle: though i myself prefer ndiswrapper...
[07:20] <imbrandon> !no bcm43xx is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:21] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[07:21] <imbrandon> there ya go abattoir
[07:21] <abattoir> imbrandon: thanks :)
[07:21] <MikeStyle> is ubotu a bot?
[07:21] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, yes
[07:21] <imbrandon> !bot
[07:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:21] <abattoir> MikeStyle: indeed :)
[07:21] <MikeStyle> k
[07:22] <imbrandon> pygi, yea it realy is worth it , i love mine
[07:22] <imbrandon> i dunno if i would buy a apple desktop but i wouldent buy any other laptop
[07:23] <uniq> ibooks are great.
[07:23] <uniq> i love mine too :)
[07:23] <pussfeller> how do i set what services start up on boot
[07:23] <pygi> imbrandon, http://www.mikronis.hr/shop/item.asp?itemid=3567&catid=175 :)
[07:23] <pussfeller> !boot
[07:23] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:23] <pygi> imbrandon, oh, oki, I'll probably go and buy it then ^_^
[07:23] <abattoir> pygi: slightly offopic, is da yes, like in Russian?
[07:23] <imbrandon> heya uniq ;)
[07:23] <uniq> hi imbrandon.
[07:24] <pygi> abattoir, "da" = "yes", right ... where you saw "da"?
[07:24] <abattoir> Bluetooth: da
[07:24] <abattoir>  Airport Extreme: da
[07:24] <pygi> ah :P
[07:24] <abattoir> and no is nyet? :P ?
[07:24] <pygi> "no" = "ne" :)
[07:25] <abattoir> ok, thanks :)
[07:25] <MikeStyle> guys, when i do "apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter", it says package cannot be found
[07:25] <pygi> abattoir, nema na cemu :)
[07:25] <abattoir> pygi: no problem? ;)
[07:25] <pygi> abattoir, "you are welcome" :)
[07:25] <uniq> mikestyle: have you enabled universe?
[07:25] <uniq> !universe > mikestyle
[07:25] <abattoir> !info bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:25] <ubotu> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In repository universe, is optional. Version 20060108-6build1 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 100 kB
[07:26] <MikeStyle> uniq, probably not
[07:26] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:/media$ apt-cache madison bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:26] <imbrandon> bcm43xx-fwcutter | 20060108-6build1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
[07:26] <imbrandon> bcm43xx-fwcutter | 20060108-6build1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources
[07:26] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:/media$
[07:26] <pygi> imbrandon, kick urself :P
[07:26] <pygi> again !!! :)
[07:26] <pygi> that's a kick-ban :P
[07:26] <MikeStyle> AH where is synaptic package manager?!
[07:26] <abattoir> MikeStyle: do you know how to enable it?
[07:26] <imbrandon> heh ok, me go's afk to work on this nfs ;)
[07:27] <pygi> imbrandon, good luck :)
[07:27] <abattoir> MikeStyle: fire up adept
[07:27] <pygi> MikeStyle, Kubuntu doesnt have synaptic
[07:27] <MikeStyle> abattoir ok
[07:27] <abattoir> MikeStyle: Adept->Manage Repositories....
[07:27] <MikeStyle> now what
[07:27] <MikeStyle> ?
[07:28] <MikeStyle> ok now what
[07:28] <darkaudit> shocked and amazed that I had no difficulty getting my wireless set up when I installed Kubuntu last night... bravo people!
[07:28] <imbrandon> MikeStyle, patients he is probbly looking ;)
[07:29] <abattoir> MikeStyle: you see the line 'deb   xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main' ?
[07:29] <MikeStyle> yes
[07:29] <MikeStyle> i found universe and enabled
[07:29] <abattoir> ok now apply....
[07:30] <abattoir> and fetch updates
[07:30] <MikeStyle> k
[07:30] <abattoir> it'd be a good idea to enable multiverse and restricted too... if it isnt already :)
[07:30] <MikeStyle> done
[07:30] <MikeStyle> and i did
[07:30] <MikeStyle> now try it?
[07:30] <abattoir> yup
[07:31] <pygi> abattoir, 21:00 PM
[07:31] <abattoir> pygi: yes i found out :)
[07:31] <abattoir> thank you
[07:31] <gatekeeper> MikeStyle: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[07:31] <MikeStyle> ok i think i got it
[07:31] <MikeStyle> thanks
[07:34] <abattoir> @time Munich
[07:34] <abattoir> @time Berlin
[07:34] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: July 08 2006, 19:34:57
[07:35] <pussfeller> whats mysql ngb and ngb manager
[07:36] <pussfeller> do i wanna start that or mysql
[07:37] <pussfeller> kubuntu really needs a better services manager :)
[07:38] <pussfeller> bum doesnt seem to read the runlevels directly but rather queires dpkg
[07:38] <pygi> pussfeller, write it, this is free world ^_^
[07:39] <uniq> pussfeller: what about ksysv?
[07:40] <pussfeller> uniq i will try that one
[07:42] <pussfeller> uniq i "cut" the entries out of each runlevel i dont want?
[07:44] <pussfeller> nm
[07:44] <centyx> upgraded to amarok 1.4.0 from kubuntu.org hoping to get support for windows media streams etc. no luck. is there anything else I need to do? I've got libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs installed.
[07:44] <centyx> note: the streams work in kaffeine
[07:45] <omeow> centyx: Do you have a link to the stream? I'd like to try it too.
[07:46] <centyx> omeow: sure. mms://windowsmedia.byu.edu/Instrumental is one
[07:46] <zorglu1> mplayer mms://windowsmedia.byu.edu/Instrumental works
[07:46] <omeow> works for me.
[07:46] <zorglu1> nothing to do with amarok tho
[07:46] <omeow> (in amarok)
[07:47] <centyx> since they work in kaffeine using the xine engine, i'm assuming that xine is ok and it's an amarok issue
[07:47] <centyx> omeow: weird
[07:47] <omeow> centyx: I use amarok 1.4.1 though.
[07:47] <zorglu1> you sure you want to listen to THAT stream ? :)
[07:47] <centyx> omeow: ah. is there a package for that?
[07:47] <omeow> Yes, one sec.
[07:48] <Frederick> folks kubuntu updated my kernel how do I remove the old one?
[07:48] <centyx> zorglu1: I know, it'd put most ppl to sleep ;p
[07:48] <pygi> abattoir, ???
[07:48] <pussfeller> now i need to find out whats starting stupid beagled
[07:48] <omeow> add "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main" to your adept repository list.
[07:48] <centyx> thanks, I'll try that
[07:48] <pussfeller> which cant handle the way kde does removable storage
[07:49] <omeow> centyx: There's also a predefined radio stream for classical music in amarok. Did you try that one too?
[07:50] <johnsandman> unsermake command not found what i am missing ?
[07:50] <centyx> omeow: no, I didn't. do I need to apt-get upgrade, or I will be safe just fetching amarok-xine, amarok-engines, and amarok?
[07:51] <omeow> You need to add the repository (remember to click apply before you close the window), then fetch updates and let it update everything to update.
[07:51] <_simian_> i'm having trouble with xine and amarok at the moment
[07:51] <omeow> (most likely only amarok I think)
[07:51] <centyx> omeow: I was doing it by hand
[07:51] <omeow> _simian_: It'd be more helpful if you said what the problem was.
[07:51] <centyx> omeow: dist-upgrade didn't show any other media-related files, so I'm good I guess
[07:51] <_simian_> omeow: lol i was in the middle of typing it
[07:52] <centyx> omeow: I went ahead and did it anyway tho b/c I figured it wouldn't hurt
[07:52] <omeow> centyx: Oh ok, I'm not too familiar to those commands, just check the version number of amarok after you restarted it.
[07:52] <centyx> omeow: I was worried about libtag etc
[07:52] <omeow> For tunepimp you mean?
[07:53] <_simian_> omeow: it amarok keeps saying that it can't load the xine engine, then i log out and log in again it's all right (but i'm sure that the is a better way to deal withproblem
[07:53] <omeow> I get that stuff from a thirdparty because the official repository comes without the much needed mp3 support.
[07:53] <omeow> _simian_: does it tell you why? perhaps the audio device is in use?
[07:53] <omeow> (an even better place to ask this stuff is in #amarok by the way)
[07:54] <centyx> omeow: hey they work!
[07:54] <centyx> omeow: the upgrade did the trick
[07:54] <omeow> Good.
[07:54] <centyx> omeow: ah, I didn't even think it'd have a large enough user base to have its own channel
[07:55] <centyx> looks a litle better too ;)
[07:55] <_simian_> omeow: it's working well at the moment so i can't check but going by memory i don' think it did give a reason
[07:55] <Frederick> folks kubuntu updated my kernel how do I remove the old one?
[07:55] <centyx> omeow: anyway thanks
[07:58] <_simian_> when i hold the mouse pointer over the amarok window it is constantly swithing between a standart mouse pointer adn a pointer that  indicates that the computer is busy, does it sound like i have some memory issues?
[07:58] <Bennner> i'm having troubles running SMB4K, the apps comes slow and i get this message "smbumount must be installed suid root"
[07:58] <neylara> hola
[07:59] <neylara> alguien habla espaol
[07:59] <z00m_> hi all, im new to kubuntu, do it have a firewall built in it?
[07:59] <_simian_> zoom linux has iptables built in but as far as i know it is just an empty shell in kubuntu
[08:00] <farous> why is it that some times even the terminal window is soo slow on dapper?
[08:01] <z00m_> _simian_: does it have a firewall built into the it or do i need to enable one
[08:01] <centyx> er
[08:04] <jerry> I have a question
[08:04] <_simian_> z00m_: I don't think it has what your talking about but all ports are blocked by default so unless you have unblocked them you should be fine
[08:05] <jerry> I have a question
[08:05] <Hawkwind> jerry: Just ask
[08:05] <jerry> I can't get music to play on a webpage
[08:06] <jerry> http://peppyprankcall.ytmnd.com/
[08:06] <jerry> music dosen't play
[08:07] <sysrpl> shit, what linux gui text editor supports macro recording and playback?
[08:07] <Bennner> i'm having troubles running SMB4K, the apps comes slow and i get this message "smbumount must be installed suid root"
[08:08] <jerry> I click install plugin and nothing happens
[08:08] <z00m_> can anyone tell me how i get security updates on kubuntu, where do i search for updates any help would be great
[08:08] <AmazingRuss> need to edit your sources.list
[08:08] <AmazingRuss> that make any sense?
[08:09] <z00m_> its ok i found it ;)
[08:09] <jerry> firefox
[08:09] <jerry> says I'm missing a plugin
[08:10] <zorglu1> jerry: to get help, you would need to get more info :)
[08:10] <jerry> at http://peppyprankcall.ytmnd.com/
[08:10] <jerry> it says missing plugin
[08:10] <zorglu1> jerry: see just 'it doesnt work' is hard to work on :)
[08:10] <jerry> but the button does nothing
[08:10] <zorglu1> ah this is info :)
[08:11] <zorglu1> jerry: ok i hear some sound on this webpage
[08:11] <jerry> well I don't
[08:11] <jerry> and it says missing plugin
[08:11] <darkaudit> CLANG!
[08:11] <zorglu1> jerry: so my guess is simple, you need to install the flash pligin for firefox
[08:11] <darkaudit> whoops... wrong window... sorry
[08:11] <jerry> how do I do that?
[08:12] <zorglu1> i dunno :)
[08:12] <zorglu1> likely some stuff in adept
[08:12] <zorglu1> and i heard that some minor issue happen in the install
[08:13] <zorglu1> http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/multimedia/#install-flash
[08:13] <zorglu1> this is explaining how to add the flash plugin
[08:13] <jerry> holy shit all of that
[08:14] <zorglu1> well only this 'install flahs
[08:14] <zorglu1> not the whole page :)
[08:14] <jerry> is there anyway to get kubuntu to auto update itself
[08:14] <zorglu1> this is like 3 commands, nothing too big :)
[08:15] <zorglu1> :)
[08:15] <jerry> there are 14 update packages available
[08:15] <zorglu1> in adept theere is a big button 'fully updagre'
[08:15] <zorglu1> upgrade
[08:15] <jerry> can I have it setup at a certain time to auto upgrade
[08:15] <jerry> like noon
[08:16] <zorglu1> yep you do the proper apt-get at a given time
[08:16] <gatekeeper> jerry: cron job
[08:18] <jerry> what would I do
[08:19] <jerry> in /etc/crontab?
[08:19] <padi> has anyone else problems adding/modifying a printer in kubuntu under dd 6.06?
[08:19] <gatekeeper> jerry: use KCron
[08:19] <padi> in the log there is always: unauthoritive
[08:19] <gatekeeper> jerry: are you using Firefox?
[08:20] <padi> but my user is member of the group lpadmin
[08:20] <padi> do I have to enable the root user?
[08:20] <gatekeeper> jerry: K -> System -> KCron
[08:20] <zorglu1> unauthoritive doesnt seem like 'not authorized'
[08:21] <zorglu1> padi: just a remark.
[08:21] <jerry> ya
[08:21] <padi> wait, the exact word is
[08:21] <word> me?
[08:21] <z00m_> whats a good linux firewall ?
[08:21] <z00m_> that works on kubuntu
[08:21] <jerry> It's still not working
[08:21] <gatekeeper> tried this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[08:22] <z00m_> another thing what the hell is CUPS 1.2 service ?
[08:22] <padi> E [08/Jul/2006:18:31:47 +0200]  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[08:22] <z00m_> another thing what the hell is CUPS 1.2 service ?
[08:23] <fiyawerx> for printing i believe
[08:23] <gatekeeper> jerry: I have this installed too: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/
[08:23] <zorglu1> padi: oh so this is a right management issue. no clue about the answer tho
[08:23] <overlimit> how can u define which modules are loaded at boot time?I mean in slack there is a /etc/rc.d/rc.modules file
[08:24] <gatekeeper> jerry: possible a codec issue
[08:24] <zorglu1> padi: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136818&page=2 <- you are not the only one having this message
[08:25] <sysrpl> is there no linux text editor that supports macro recording?
[08:25] <sysrpl> ?
[08:25] <jerry> what do I save it as or do with it?
[08:26] <zorglu1> sysrpl: emacs support macro
[08:26] <z00m_> overlimit: just goto program menu then select system settings >> system services
[08:27] <jerry> What do I do with mediaplayerconnectivity?
[08:27] <z00m_> anyone send time on securing there computer in here ? if so whats a good firewall to use with this distro ?
[08:27] <gatekeeper> jerry: press 'install now' if you are talking about Mediaplayerconnectivity
[08:27] <jerry> then what
[08:27] <zorglu1> padi: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/39484 <- the official issue description
[08:27] <jerry> I did that and it pops up some window
[08:27] <nduwak> hello
[08:28] <gatekeeper> z00m_: iptables comes as standard
[08:28] <padi> oh great
[08:28] <gatekeeper> !iptables
[08:28] <padi> zorglu1: !! thanks
[08:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[08:28] <nduwak> I recentlly installed Kubuntu but i cant get the sound while plaing KsCD any help?
[08:28] <sysrpl> geeez emacs is a big set of files to install
[08:29] <hastesaver> sysrpl, but it's worth it ;)
[08:29] <AmazingRuss> emacs makes my teeth ache
[08:29] <gatekeeper> jerry: just say OK to installing it
[08:29] <hastesaver> sysrpl, Emacs (and/or Vim) is the best text-editor there is.
[08:30] <jerry> oh god
[08:30] <sysrpl> well it doesn't work with the gui clipboard very well
[08:30] <jerry> ok I got install.js and install.rdf and chrome
[08:30] <sysrpl> wtf is up with that?
[08:31] <hastesaver> sysrpl, that's sadly true. I've been facing those problems too. In fact, I can copy from Emacs to some apps, and not to others. But klipper takes care of it
[08:31] <gatekeeper> jerry: I am confused?? what are you up to?
[08:32] <jerry> well I clicked on that one thing
[08:32] <sysrpl> where is this macro recording and playback? i dont see it in the menu and it's not mapped to the expected ctrl+shift+r
[08:32] <jerry> mediaplayerconnectivity
[08:32] <jerry> and saved it to the desktop
[08:32] <hastesaver> sysrpl, oh, if it's the first time you're using Emacs, you might as well give up :) All keybindings are weird and different
[08:32] <jerry> oww
[08:32] <sysrpl> gd
[08:32] <padi> should the file /etc/cups/printers.conf be empty?
[08:32] <z00m_> gatekeeper: thanks
[08:33] <hastesaver> I've noticed that if you have klipper running, selecting (or copying) in Emacs shows up in Klipper, but it doesn't paste in the other app unless you click on Klipper and select that text. This is very strange, anyone know the cause of this?
[08:33] <sysrpl> well what normal operating text editor for windows supports macro rrecording and playback ... as well as the clipboard
[08:33] <padi> the bug seems not resolved yet
[08:33] <padi> what a mess
[08:33] <z00m_> gatekeeper: is that terminal based or had it got a GUI ?
[08:33] <gatekeeper> jerry: no go back to the web site and press the 'Install now' URL
[08:33] <z00m_> s/had/has
[08:33] <ChefWill> anyone know where plugins folder for kopete is?
[08:33] <gatekeeper> !iptables
[08:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[08:34] <z00m_> thanks ;)
[08:34] <gatekeeper> z00m_: firestarter is a GUI (there are others) ^ ^
[08:34] <z00m_> so i need to get firestarter
[08:34] <gatekeeper> z00m_: hope you manage to get it to do what you want
[08:34] <z00m_> GUI
[08:35] <dfkjsfd> hello
[08:35] <gatekeeper> z00m_: yep
[08:35] <gatekeeper> z00m_: or another one if you don't like that one e.g. guarddog
[08:35] <z00m_> im on a wifi network and dont want other computers on the network to have access to this computer, block pings and port scans
[08:36] <z00m_> and stealth scans ... :)
[08:36] <morphado> hello anyone know about officall wine channel
[08:36] <hastesaver> sysrpl, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors :)
[08:36] <z00m_> :D
[08:36] <jerry> I just want to hear it
[08:36] <zorglu1> morphado: #winehq
[08:37] <hastesaver> sysrpl, you could probably try gedit
[08:37] <sysrpl> i was reading in there before i asked here :)
[08:37] <morphado> thanks guys trying to make my win app working ;)
[08:37] <sysrpl> gedit doesnt do macros accept through scripts
[08:37] <sysrpl> i need macro recording
[08:37] <gatekeeper> z00m_: that's what you want, I haven't played with it myself, but someone said everything is blocked by default and only application that you install open up ports
[08:37] <sysrpl> i'm looking at jedit right now ...
[08:38] <gatekeeper> z00m_: all my PC's sit behind a router which has already got a firewall
[08:38] <z00m_> gatekeeper: it may allow hosts on the network to be trusted, i just wanted to setup one just incase
[08:39] <jerry> couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: content.ytmnd.com
[08:39] <z00m_> network meaning the internal network
[08:39] <gatekeeper> z00m_: ok, you can always go to the test web sites and see what happens
[08:40] <gatekeeper> jerry: that is what you get when you press on the URL?
[08:40] <jerry> ya
[08:40] <guillermo> hola
[08:40] <jerry> holy cow
[08:40] <guillermo> spanish??
[08:40] <z00m_> gatekeeper: We have a router setup with a IDS / firewall built into it, so that will stop the outside attacks to some level.  They're very powerful once you learn how to use them. But if your text-editing needs are not much (only occasional), then probably don't bother.
[08:42] <gatekeeper> jerry: if firefox will not let you install add-ins I don't know what to suggest
[08:42] <jerry> gees
[08:43] <jerry> hey how do I add crontab to have it auto update
[08:43] <gatekeeper> jerry: when did you install it?
[08:43] <z00m_> gatekeeper: been using windows for the last few years and im fed up of 1:spyware and 2:being exploited
[08:43] <jerry> adept
[08:43] <z00m_> so i think linux is the best option
[08:44] <gatekeeper> z00m_: join the club :-) one of the motivations I changed, collegues at work said linux rock so I decided to investigate and agree
[08:44] <z00m_> does anyone know if the amd64 build of this distro has any better feature towards security messures. i.e protected memory and so on ?
[08:44] <zorglu1> i run linux only for like 10years, but i was tired of not being exploited :) i installed windows today :)
[08:44] <Eragon> uhh hi guys
[08:44] <zorglu1> it is amazing how delighted i am about this
[08:44] <zorglu1> no idea why :)
[08:45] <z00m_> zorglu1: serious ?
[08:45] <Eragon> im gonna try out kubuntu dual boot now
[08:45] <gatekeeper> jerry: when did you install kubuntu?
[08:45] <Eragon> in kubuntu how do i access my windows files?
[08:45] <Eragon> i just mount the windows drive?
[08:45] <zorglu1> z00m_: yep :) except for my motivation tho :)
[08:45] <jerry> I just did it
[08:46] <morphado> yep eragon
[08:46] <jerry> works cool
[08:46] <blondie> hello
[08:46] <Eragon> ah ok
[08:46] <zorglu1> z00m_: tired of not being exploited" should be replaced by "need to port for stuff on window" :)
[08:46] <z00m_> zorglu1 so did u get exploited alot on linux then ?
[08:46] <Eragon> since i can access all my windows files from linux i dont need that much space allocated to kubuntu right
[08:46] <Eragon> like 2gb is enough?
[08:46] <sysrpl> hastesaver: i am a programmer but prefer ide's like kdevelop, monodevelop, and eclispe
[08:47] <zorglu1> z00m_: nope :) i do like linux :)
[08:47] <zorglu1> sysrpl: which language do you code in ?
[08:47] <Pupeno__> !games
[08:47] <z00m_> i think its hard going from windows to linux its a hard learning curve
[08:47] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[08:47] <morphado> I am just a new but for the wap partition u need a last the double size of your RAM
[08:47] <sysrpl> hastesaver: free pascal, c#, and java
[08:47] <zorglu1> z00m_: nope :) believe me. linux to window is hard too
[08:47] <gatekeeper> z00m_: how so?
[08:47] <sysrpl> sometimes C++
[08:48] <zorglu1> sysrpl: i do c++ in eclipse... not the best choise tho :)
[08:48] <gatekeeper> sysrpl: people still use pascal woow :-)
[08:48] <zorglu1> sysrpl: i use eclipse because i was used to it when i did some java
[08:48] <z00m_> <<< windows makes life easy, you could setup an server in one click on windows. I think thats why its alwaus being exploited, default setups
[08:48] <zorglu1> i hope the pascal stuff is school stuff :)
[08:49] <sysrpl> pixel the graphics editor is written in free pascal and i am working on a library for that project
[08:49] <sysrpl> but i would very much like a gui integrated text editor for linux like textpad under windows
[08:50] <gatekeeper> z00m_: Installing in linux is usually much easier, try installing Php/Apache/MySql on windows the in linux and you will know what I mean
[08:50] <lied> can someone help with my graph-drivers? i have an geforce mx 460, which driver should install?
[08:50] <sysrpl> for general purpose stuff
[08:50] <zorglu1> z00m_: and you got this people like us to help you. how nice is that ? :)
[08:50] <morphado> why to switch after I love the magic of dual boot
[08:50] <sysrpl> macro recording is a huge feature to me
[08:50] <gatekeeper> z00m_: package manager generally makes life very easy
[08:51] <morphado> gatekeeper yes but for people who has a net access !!!
[08:51] <Eragon> in a dual boot how much space should i allocate to kubuntu so that i can install most of the useful linux software without keeping much data on the linux drive
[08:51] <AmazingRuss> 20 meg should be plenty
[08:51] <Eragon> uhh
[08:51] <AmazingRuss> er gig
[08:51] <gatekeeper> morphado: I surpose so got broadband so I surpose I tend to forget that :-)
[08:51] <AmazingRuss> im old
[08:51] <Eragon> 20gigs
[08:52] <Eragon> hm
[08:52] <Eragon> how about like 4 gigs
[08:52] <zorglu1> ok too :)
[08:52] <z00m_> yea its got easy now compare to what it use to be like, i linux installed before and you had to compile everything /configure  .. blah blah make , then find dependances, i was back on windows within 2 hours
[08:52] <z00m_> :D
[08:52] <sysrpl> god damn this all sucks .... [error]  AWT-EventQueue-3: java.lang.InternalError: Pango: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()
[08:52] <AmazingRuss> would do 0 minimum
[08:52] <sysrpl> jedit refuses to run
[08:52] <AmazingRuss> er 8
[08:52] <AmazingRuss> cant type
[08:52] <Eragon> haha
[08:52] <gatekeeper> z00m_: apt-get/synaptic are your friends :-)
[08:53] <zorglu1> z00m_: stick at it, you will love adept :) and its 18000 free apps one click away
[08:53] <Eragon> 8..
[08:53] <Eragon> ok
[08:53] <zorglu1> "18000 free apps one click away" <- nice slogan :)
[08:53] <morphado> eragon for me I allocated 20 giga
[08:53] <gatekeeper> z00m_: zorglu1: hate Adept much prefer CLI or synaptic Adept does my head in :-)
[08:53] <z00m_> yea thats true, i like playing games though so i need windows for that mainly. battle field 2 and ghost recon advanced war
[08:54] <SpAwN> z00m_: if u are looking for a nice easy firewall i suggest ipkungfu.........or if u want a firewall capable of ingress/egress filtering id suggest apf
[08:54] <Eragon> hmmm do you keep much data on the linux drive morphado
[08:54] <jerry> aww
[08:54] <SpAwN> both are cli only....but pretty easy to set up
[08:54] <jerry> I have a question
[08:55] <z00m_> SpAwN: yeah that would be a good one for me so it asks if i want to allow apps to access the outside also
[08:55] <gatekeeper> SpAwN: do both require a good knowledge of iptables?
[08:55] <jerry> Is there a way to setup so that at noon all the packages get updated in adept?
[08:55] <Hawkwind> Ipkungfu doesn't
[08:55] <z00m_> i know on windows there firewall does not ask it just allows out going traffic unless its trying to bind to a port then it asks
[08:56] <SpAwN> z00m_: the apf is a little more advanced......is the computer phisicly in front of you?
[08:56] <SpAwN> gatekeeper: not at all
[08:56] <Hawkwind> jerry: Look into crontab/cronjob
[08:56] <z00m_> yes
[08:56] <jerry> what would I put in there?
[08:56] <jerry> in etc/crontab ?
[08:57] <SpAwN> z00m_: good......when i installed apf.. i accidently blocked everything.....if it was a remote computeri woulda been fucked
[08:57] <z00m_> lol
[08:57] <Hawkwind> jerry: man crontab
[08:57] <Hawkwind> jerry: Or man crontab
[08:57] <Hawkwind> Ermmm, man cronjob
[08:57] <morphado> zoom what is your graphic card, because mine is geforce 6600gt but ghost recon AW quality is low !!
[08:58] <z00m_> morphado: its the geforce 7600 GT by BFG overclocked one
[08:58] <SpAwN> but z00m_ ipkungfu is realy easy to set up and works great...i dont think it does the egress though
[08:59] <bcron> hi
[08:59] <gatekeeper> SpAwN: I will have to have a look at that, read some stuff on iptables but have never really had the time so far to get my head round it all thanx for the tip :-)
[08:59] <SpAwN> z00m_: i got a 7800 GT OC :P
[08:59] <SpAwN> hehe
[08:59] <entropy> could someone help me fix apt-get/dpkg or whatever-it's-called please? I'm new to debian(based) systems and I've broken it.  (Sorry, I was away for a bit)
[09:01] <thomas> is there a tagger for music files which uses allmusic.com for tagging kinda semi-automatically?
[09:01] <z00m_> there is new options for antistropic filtering, plus if you click on advanced option in the graphics section on options you can setup the quality in there, mine is set at medium
[09:01] <gatekeeper> z00m_: I have learnt something from your question all good stuff :-)
[09:02] <omeow> _simian_: I have the cursor switching problem with adept. Not with amarok.
[09:02] <z00m_> gatekeeper: i like secuirty, spend most of my time playing with it :D
[09:03] <gatekeeper> z00m_: you might have to come back and teach me a thing or two :-)
[09:04] <z00m_> im not that clever, I hang the irc.bsrf.co.uk
[09:04] <z00m_> hang in the ^
[09:05] <z00m_> SpAwN: do i need to get some drivers then to get my geforce card running like it should in kubuntu ?
[09:05] <entropy> trying to do 'apt-get --fix-missing' also fails it freezes here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/v2Ny1r32.html
[09:05] <z00m_> entropy: did you sudo ?
[09:05] <jerry> I can't find it
[09:07] <morphado> by guys I have to leave, 1 hour of net access cost me 1 euro, off fuck my net provider
[09:07] <z00m_> morphado: lol ok ;)
[09:07] <z00m_> expensive that is
[09:07] <hastesaver> morphado, wow, and I thought Internet was cheap in Europe (at least in France it is)
[09:08] <morphado> woops who tell i am from france
[09:09] <morphado> actually I am from algeria don't be afraid i am not harmfull ;)
[09:09] <z00m_> entropy: you there ? did you solve the problem ?
[09:09] <sysrpl> what is the terminal deltree type command under linux?
[09:09] <hastesaver> morphado, no, I just meant that I'd heard Internet is very cheap in France, so I assumed (stupidly) that it's cheap in all of Europe (and because you said Euro, I deduced Europe) :)
[09:10] <driz> do I just select how much space i want to run Kubuntu on if i want to dual boot
[09:10] <driz> ?
[09:10] <z00m_> entropy: try this apt-get autoclean
[09:10] <z00m_> that should get rid of that old crap
[09:11] <z00m_> entropy: try this "sudo apt-get autoclean"    << in terminal
[09:11] <gatekeeper> driz: are all your partition(s) NTFS?
[09:11] <morphado> hastesaver i converted to euro as u can understand it actually it's 100 dinars !!
[09:12] <driz> gatekeeper: ya.
[09:12] <z00m_> gatekeeper: do you know much about GFX drivers, where will i get mine for the geforce card for linux ?
[09:12] <z00m_> there site or do i get them from package manager ?
[09:12] <gatekeeper> !nvidia
[09:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:12] <gatekeeper> z00m_: you mean that ^
[09:13] <z00m_> yes that it thanks :)
[09:13] <gatekeeper> driz: if you have a single NTFS partition then defrag it, then shrink and put kubuntu in the shrunken space
[09:15] <gatekeeper> z00m_: good luck off to watch a film :-)
[09:15] <driz> gatekeeper: how would i do that this is for my friend and his on the phone..
[09:16] <gatekeeper> night all catch you latter
[09:16] <driz> oh man
[09:16] <driz> ok later
[09:16] <gatekeeper> driz: not sure
[09:16] <driz> ok
[09:17] <z00m_> gatekeeper: catch you later
[09:17] <z00m_> ;)
[09:17] <gatekeeper> driz: needs to use a suitable piece of software something qtparted (I think that is what it is called)
[09:17] <driz> oh ok thanks
[09:18] <gatekeeper> driz: good luck :-) others should be able to help you
[09:23] <sysrpl> i am instaling eclipse to get an editor with macro support
[09:24] <Jeff_> can someone tell me why a super krumba theme would be totaly transparent on the desktop?
[09:24] <omeow> sysrpl: Out of curiousity, what do you use macro's for?
[09:24] <z00m_>  cool
[09:24] <Jeff_> coll to the point of being invisable i mean
[09:25] <omeow> *macros =P
[09:26] <Jeff_> anyone?
[09:26] <gioacchino> how to use the profile of portable thunderbird ( windows )  on thunderbird ( linux )  ?
[09:27] <omeow> http://www.google.com/search?&q=how+to+use+the+profile+of+portable+thunderbird+(+windows+)+on+thunderbird+(+linux+)
[09:27] <omeow> (might need to select the link since konversation 0.19 has issues with it)
[09:27] <z00m_> brb
[09:28] <omeow> Jeff_: Sorry, I don't know.
[09:32] <usp8riot> Jeff_: i don't there is a way, it seems to be a glitch with transparency
[09:33] <usp8riot> i just now turned my transparency off, seems too glitchy
[09:34] <thomas> !mysql
[09:34] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:34] <yango> hello... I upgraded to 6.06 and I cannot use Konqueror to download images from my camera
[09:34] <yango> In breezy I could easily
[09:39] <star> hey guys
[09:40] <star> i mounted my ntfs drive so i could view the files on it, but it is refusing to load my folders that have spaces in them... how can i load these folders?
[09:41] <star> any clue?
[09:41] <yango> are you cd'ing to them, or using konqueror?
[09:41] <star> cd'ng
[09:42] <Knag> hi there
[09:42] <dr_willis> cd  'spaces are here'
[09:42] <Kwukki> hello
[09:42] <Kwukki> i seek a program like publisher, but for linux
[09:42] <Kwukki> someone an idea?
[09:42] <zorglu1> Kwukki: scribus ?
[09:42] <zorglu1> http://www.scribus.net/
[09:43] <Kwukki> lets take a look
[09:45] <zorglu1> i dont even know what is publisher :)
[09:45] <z00m_> quick question where do i edit my repository file for apt-get
[09:45] <zorglu1> so tell me what you think and if scribus is close to publisher :)
[09:46] <Kwukki> hehe
[09:46] <zorglu1> z00m_: kate /etc/apt/somethingidontremember :)
[09:46] <zorglu1> source.lst ?
[09:47] <zorglu1> z00m_: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic <- to automatically generate the source file
[09:47] <Kwukki> zorglu1: very good
[09:47] <z00m_> thanks
[09:47] <Kwukki> we want to create a small magazine
[09:47] <zorglu1> Kwukki: nice to hear :)
[09:48] <zorglu1> Kwukki: the first headline should be 'zorglu1 is a great guy' :)(
[09:48] <Kwukki> k
[09:48] <Kwukki> i'll post it on the website too ;-)
[09:48] <zorglu1> cool :)
[09:50] <star> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it
[09:50] <star> anyclue?
[09:50] <star> sorry guys im a super newbie to linux
[09:50] <star> so bare with me
[09:50] <dr_willis> ya got more then one apt program going at the same time   perhaps.
[09:50] <dr_willis> like synaptic, then you run apt-get in the shell.
[09:50] <star> im so dumb
[09:50] <Knag> lol
[09:51] <qbit> what's the trick to get amarok to work?
[09:51] <qbit> I have as yet to ever see this work
[09:51] <zorglu1> star: check what dr_willis said. else they are some cases in which this message got triggered for other reasons
[09:51] <star> he was right
[09:51] <z00m_> zorglu1: its in the /etc/apt/sources.list for future reference ;)
[09:51] <star> i just felt so dumb i didn't reply
[09:51] <zorglu1> ok cool :)
[09:51] <dr_willis> :)
[09:51] <zorglu1> z00m_: ok noted :)
[09:52] <Kwukki> zorglu1 : how can i change thefooter of 1 of the templates?
[09:52] <dr_willis> yea the use of 'process' when they could be saying 'program' may  make that message a little more clear.
[09:52] <zorglu1> Kwukki: hmm i never even run the scribus, just know it by reputation :) which is quite good btw :)
[09:52] <star> you guys are big helps
[09:52] <star> i figured you guys would just be smartasses and make me feel stupid
[09:52] <star> lol
[09:53] <Kwukki> k
[09:53] <star> i am having some issues installing ubuntu from my live cd
[09:53] <star> brb and i can get my error code if you guys think you can help
[09:53] <star> it install but then didnt boot
[09:53] <zorglu1> Kwukki: there is a #scribus btw :) they may know a lot more than me :)
[09:54] <Knag> qbit: what happens with you amarok?
[09:54] <Kwukki> k
[09:54] <Kwukki> thx
[09:54] <z00m_> yey sorted it out now, i got more packages :D
[09:54] <qbit> Knag: it just jumps straight to "Playlist finished" without actually doing anything
[09:54] <Knag> oh
[09:54] <qbit> KNag: XMMS works fine, as well as system sounds
[09:55] <Knag> i dunno, i'm new to (k)ubuntu :D
[09:55] <roadrunner> Alright, I have a retarded question... Im new to linux and am not too sure how to install things. I have done it before, but I can't seem to install a game (Xmoto) could someone walk me through it real quick?
[09:55] <z00m_> zorglu1: do you know or anyone else in here how to install the GFX card drivers for geforce cards ? can i do with apt-get ?
[09:55] <ChefWill> qbit: what engine are you using?
[09:55] <zorglu1> z00m_: nope. sorry
[09:55] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[09:55] <qbit> I've tried it with the xine and the arts engine
[09:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:56] <ChefWill> try xine
[09:56] <ChefWill> and re-add all your songs
[09:56] <roadrunner> I just re-downloaded the tar.gz file... so, could someone help me?
[09:56] <ChefWill> roadrunner:
[09:56] <ChefWill> tar zvfx file.tar.gz
[09:56] <ChefWill> then read the INSTALL file
[09:56] <zorglu1> such apps should be properly installed by default
[09:56] <roadrunner> I did read the install file
[09:57] <roadrunner> and it simply says to apt-get install xmoto
[09:57] <roadrunner> when I do that, it downloads the 1.10 version... I want to install the new 1.16 version (I think thats it)
[09:57] <SpAwN> z00m_: yes u need drivers
[09:57] <zorglu1> roadrunner: ok try "./configure" in the directory which have been created when you untared
[09:58] <z00m_> SpAwN: can i get them from apt-get ?
[09:58] <SpAwN> z00m_: u can use the ones provided by kubuntu ....there called "nvidia-glx" i think
[09:58] <SpAwN> z00m_: yes
[09:58] <z00m_> buzzing ;)
[09:58] <ChefWill> roadrunner:  install from cvs
[09:58] <z00m_> im scrolling a web page and its chpping like mad
[09:58] <z00m_> chopping^
[09:58] <SpAwN> z00m_: i had a few probs with them......everyone said i was crazy.....so if u have any probs u can find me here and i walk u through manualy installing them
[09:58] <roadrunner> what is CVS?
[09:58] <z00m_> ok thanks SpAwN
[09:59] <SpAwN> z00m_: yea the stock "nv" driver wouldnt even work for me...i had to use "vesa"
[09:59] <SpAwN> and was quite choppy
[09:59] <roadrunner> it says I have: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:59] <roadrunner> however, I know I have the newest GCC package and other C/C++ compilers installed
[09:59] <ninHer> hi all
[09:59] <SpAwN> z00m_: i use this nick and rOOb......
[09:59] <zorglu1> !build-essantial
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about build-essantial
[10:00] <zorglu1> 	nunit_res_t	closestnode(const nunit_testclass_ftor_t &testclass_ftor)		throw();
[10:00] <zorglu1> no not that :)
[10:00] <zorglu1> !build-essential
[10:00] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:00] <SpAwN> z00m_: also type "!nvidia" in here...... it will give u step by step directions....
[10:00] <zorglu1> roadrunner: goto the build essential i just got from the bot
[10:01] <zorglu1> roadrunner: it will explain to you how to get a 'GCC
[10:01] <roadrunner> I have tried installing stuff that way... it doesn't work
[10:01] <roadrunner> and I just told you, I have GCC
[10:01] <zorglu1> damn i wasnt concentrating
[10:01] <zorglu1> sorry
[10:01] <roadrunner> gcc 4.0 I believe
[10:01] <roadrunner> and I know I have some other C/C++ compilers, as my Nvidia drivers needed them to install
[10:01] <SpAwN> roadrunner: build-essential gave me everything i need to compile stuff.....what are u trying to get done?
[10:01] <zorglu1> roadrunner: 'gcc -version' provides an answer ?
[10:01] <star> hey guys what is srub 1.5?
[10:02] <roadrunner> for some reason, when I do the apt-get install x-moto it downloads the 0.1.10 version, not the 0.1.16
[10:02] <omeow> roadrunner: You don't generally need gcc to install nvidia drivers.
[10:02] <SpAwN> roadrunner: u installed build-essential? and the nvidia driver wont install right?
[10:02] <omeow> Not on kubuntu in any case.
[10:02] <roadrunner> SpAwN: Im not talking about installing drivers... I was just stating that is when I got the compiler
[10:02] <zorglu1> hehe the roadrunner issue is about installing xmoto 1.16 from source
[10:03] <SpAwN> roadrunner: oh k
[10:03] <SpAwN> roadrunner: u cant use apt-get to install it?
[10:03] <roadrunner> omeow: I also know that now... but I was just doing what my prompt told me to do as I tried to install the drivers. It didn't work anyways, someone else helped me install those
[10:03] <star> when it tries to load, it said srub 1.5 error
[10:03] <zorglu1> roadrunner: dont worry sometime we are more focused than that :)
[10:03] <roadrunner> SpAwN: Like I said, I try it, and then it downloads an old version 0.1.10, when the new version I want is 0.1.16
[10:04] <SpAwN> roadrunner: and u defiantly need the 0.1.16?
[10:04] <zorglu1> roadrunner: ok 'gcc -version' provides an answer ?
[10:04] <roadrunner> I never said that... but it would be nice wouldn't it? Who doesnt like updated games with more features?
[10:04] <usp8riot> anyone know how to use whois in the console? other words, i need an ip, just bored and trying to surf the web in the console
[10:04] <SpAwN> roadrunner: i read somwhere that u might need to use a command silliler to like "export CC=GCC" or somthing like that....i never had to do it...but i remember seeing a article on it
[10:04] <zorglu1> roadrunner: well about game, have you tried tremulous ? tremulous.net ?
[10:05] <roadrunner> zorglu1: says command not found
[10:05] <zorglu1> roadrunner: way more sexy than xboto
[10:05] <roadrunner> zorglu1: however, when I check in Adpet, it says gcc is installed
[10:05] <zorglu1> roadrunner: this is your problem :)
[10:05] <zorglu1> roadrunner: so it is a path issue
[10:05] <zorglu1> roadrunner: do
[10:05] <zorglu1> roadrunner: do 'locate gcc'
[10:05] <z00m_> SpAwn: "!nvidia" in the app-get ?
[10:05] <SpAwN> no in here
[10:05] <omeow> roadrunner: Well, in kubuntu you just install nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules via adept and are done with it. No compiling needed.
[10:05] <SpAwN> !nvidia
[10:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:05] <SpAwN> ^^
[10:05] <z00m_> oh right :D
[10:05] <SpAwN> =D
[10:06] <roadrunner> omeow: We aren't talking about drivers... I have my drivers properly installed now XD
[10:06] <zorglu1> omeow: roadrunner problem is not about nvidia :) but about xmoto 1.16 compilation :)
[10:06] <roadrunner> omeow: I was merely making a reference to when I did install them, no worries
[10:06] <star> no one know the issue im having?
[10:06] <omeow> Ah ok, sorry. :) Just thought you were still going on about drivers.
[10:06] <z00m_> well im going to try then nvidia-glx drivers now
[10:06] <zorglu1> roadrunner: so locate gcc ?
[10:06] <SpAwN> zorglu1:
[10:06] <SpAwN> wait
[10:06] <zorglu1> star: retransmit ?
[10:06] <roadrunner> zorglu1: I did that, there is a ton of output... what part do you need?
[10:06] <zorglu1> SpAwN: ?
[10:07] <zorglu1> roadrunner: to know if it find gcc :)
[10:07] <SpAwN> z00m_: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf .working
[10:07] <SpAwN> z00m_: then if the drivers dont work
[10:07] <star> zorglu1:  I installed ubuntu and it installed fine, but when I try to boot it, it gives me an error like SRUB 1.5 error
[10:07] <zorglu1> roadrunner: but this mean gcc is like there
[10:07] <roadrunner> I dunno... I typed in locate gcc and there are a crapload of output... paths to the gcc installs I would assume
[10:07] <zorglu1> star: never heard of it orry
[10:07] <z00m_> SpAwN: thanks thats good advice
[10:07] <SpAwN> all u have to do is mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.working /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:08] <SpAwN> then restart x
[10:08] <SpAwN> z00m_: ive learneed the hardway =D
[10:08] <roadrunner> 4.0, 3.4, and 3.3 are all installed it looks like
[10:08] <zorglu1> roadrunner: ok i boot a ubuntu to see :)
[10:08] <z00m_> i was just going to install and keep my finger crossed ... lol
[10:08] <star> ill reinstall then
[10:08] <SpAwN> z00m_: well theres plan B
[10:08] <SpAwN> =D
[10:08] <Jeff_> can someone tell me why a super krumba theme would be transparant, on the desktop
[10:09] <Jeff_> star--you sure thats not grub
[10:09] <star> lol maybe it was grub
[10:09] <usp8riot> is there a way to surf the web in the konsole?
[10:10] <zorglu1> roadrunner: ok do "echo $PATH" and paste the result it
[10:10] <z00m_> im well impressed with this kubuntu so far... love it :D
[10:10] <zorglu1> roadrunner: those are the default path in which executable are search
[10:10] <zorglu1> ed
[10:11] <z00m_> thats untill i can't start the Xserver ... lol
[10:11] <zorglu1> roadrunner: still here ?
[10:11] <usp8riot> same here z00m, i booted to windows today after a week of using kubuntu and told myself it's time to go back home
[10:11] <roadrunner> yeah
[10:11] <roadrunner> sorry
[10:11] <roadrunner> "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"
[10:12] <z00m_> usp8riot: i think the only reason im going to go back to windows is to play the odd game that i buy, thats it
[10:12] <zorglu1> roadrunner: this doesnt not make sense... gcc is supposed to be in /usr/bin
[10:12] <z00m_> dual boot setup
[10:12] <zorglu1> roadrunner: do "ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*"
[10:12] <Jeff_> linux is not ready to be the main desktop for most users
[10:12] <zorglu1> roadrunner: what do you see
[10:13] <SpAwN> i installed windows then mandriva linux....never booted to windows.....used mandriva for like 5-6 months.....and now running kubuntu....and i still have a fresh install of windows then ive never been booted to
[10:13] <z00m_> SpAwN: the drivers are installed now what do i have to do in the terminal restartx ?
[10:13] <roadrunner> nothing
[10:13] <SpAwN> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:13] <roadrunner> nothing at all... and my prompt is now just a >
[10:14] <roadrunner> just a sex
[10:14] <roadrunner> sec*
[10:14] <roadrunner> uhg
[10:14] <roadrunner> can't type at all
[10:14] <zorglu1> roadrunner: sorry i have to go. but it is why you have this 'no gcc' message while compiling xmoto
[10:14] <sysrpl> i give up. i can't find a single text editor on linux that has the same basic macro recording capabilities as textpad, ultraedit, word, vs.net, and borland ides on windows
[10:14] <z00m_> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:14] <z00m_> without loggin out ?
[10:14] <SpAwN> z00m_: yea that should start it?
[10:14] <roadrunner> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 93584 2006-04-20 18:22 /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
[10:14] <roadrunner> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16245 2006-04-20 18:13 /usr/bin/gccbug-4.0
[10:14] <SpAwN> wait zoom how ddi u do it
[10:14] <roadrunner> there... that's what that said...
[10:15] <roadrunner> zorglu1: Does that help you at all?
[10:15] <SpAwN> z00m_: u used apt-getet right?
[10:15] <zorglu1> roadrunner: no plain gcc ? without -40 ?
[10:15] <SpAwN> *apt-get
[10:15] <zorglu1> roadrunner: yep
[10:15] <roadrunner> that's all it said
[10:15] <z00m_> i just install the files from Adept Manager
[10:15] <SpAwN> z00m_: ahh k
[10:15] <z00m_> is that cool ?
[10:15] <SpAwN> z00m_: "ctrl alt backspace"
[10:15] <roadrunner> zorglu1: so do I need to install something more?
[10:15] <SpAwN> z00m_: yes
[10:15] <z00m_> ok
[10:15] <z00m_> brb
[10:15] <SpAwN> k
[10:15] <z00m_> logout ?
[10:15] <z00m_> then back in ?
[10:15] <zorglu1> roadrunner: i dunno i think it is just an install glitch. you need to tell xboto to use gcc-4.0
[10:16] <star> is there anything you can do in windows but not in kubuntu?
[10:16] <SpAwN> ctrl alt backspace restarts the x server
[10:16] <zorglu1> roadrunner: like CC=gcc-4.0 or CXX=gcc-4.0
[10:16] <SpAwN> z00m_: it should dropp u at the login screen
[10:16] <z00m_> oh right im pressing ctrl alt del here like a wintendo kid
[10:16] <zorglu1> roadrunner: ok im going now. good luck :)
[10:16] <z00m_> :d
[10:16] <SpAwN> lol
[10:16] <z00m_> brb
[10:18] <SpAwN> z00m: in a konsole type "glxinfo | grep render"
[10:18] <z00m> seems to be still working
[10:19] <SpAwN> z00m: did u see a nvidia logo?
[10:19] <Mortalman> kubuntu never asked me to provide a root password.....   so what is it by default?
[10:19] <z00m> no logo
[10:19] <ChefWill> your user pass Mortalman
[10:19] <SpAwN> Mortalman: there is no root
[10:19] <SpAwN> !root
[10:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:19] <SpAwN> z00m: realy u didnt see alogo?
[10:19] <Hawkwind> Mortalman: You can however setup a traditional root account
[10:20] <SpAwN> what does that command say z00m
[10:20] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Not everyone will see the Nvidia logo
[10:20] <z00m> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[10:20] <z00m> many more line
[10:20] <user->  there is no root?
[10:20] <z00m> many more lines
[10:20] <SpAwN> Hawkwind: ahh was un aware of that
[10:20] <dr_willis> often the nvidia logo flashes on/off to fast to see. :P
[10:20] <z00m> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[10:20] <user->  wut is alt f1  login; root ?
[10:20] <SpAwN> z00m: did u foloow the set up step by step?
[10:20] <Mortalman> Hawkwind: I would love to set up a traditional root account. How would I go about doing that if I'm not root. lol
[10:20] <Hawkwind> Mortalman: sudo passwd
[10:20] <z00m> on that link ?
[10:20] <user->  lol
[10:20] <Hawkwind> Mortalman: Then enter the sudo password, then create a root password and then verify it
[10:21] <user->  use a rescue disk and set the root pw
[10:21] <z00m> no i just downloaded the drivers and installed them and hit crtl alt bakcspace
[10:21] <SpAwN> z00m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[10:21] <user->  chroot /dev/hdax
[10:21] <Hawkwind> user-: No need
[10:21] <user->   right
[10:21] <Hawkwind> user-: sudo passwd  does that for you
[10:21] <user->  blah
[10:22] <z00m> SpAwN: mine is a PCI express card will that make any difference
[10:22] <user->   i wanna know the root pw
[10:22] <SpAwN> k z00m  u also need to install linux-restricted-modulesfor your kernel version
[10:22] <user->  sue me
[10:22] <Hawkwind> user-: You create it
[10:22] <SpAwN> z00m: nope...i also have a pci-e
[10:22] <Hawkwind> That's what that command does
[10:23] <z00m> linux-restricted-modules in the apt-get ?
[10:23] <SpAwN> z00m: do this....in a terminal type "uname -r" what ever numbers that gives you is the kernel version u are using
[10:23] <z00m> 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[10:24] <SpAwN> z00m: then open adept and search for linux-restricted-modules
[10:24] <SpAwN> z00m: there will be several diff ones there....make sure u pick the one that matches your kernel version
[10:25] <z00m> ok
[10:26] <z00m> SpAwN: it says that they are already installed ?
[10:26] <SpAwN> z00m: oh k do this now "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[10:27] <SpAwN> z00m: once u run that command u *should* be good to go
[10:27] <z00m> ok got the message that a backup has been made and "
[10:27] <z00m> Warning: your X configuration has been succesfully changed.
[10:27] <z00m> In order to take full advantage of the changes, X needs to
[10:27] <z00m> be restarted.
[10:28] <z00m> restart now then hey ;)
[10:28] <SpAwN> z00m: ctrl alt backspace
[10:28] <z00m> thanks for this help
[10:28] <z00m> brb
[10:28] <SpAwN> z00m: np
[10:29] <z00m_> yes it worked ;)
[10:29] <SpAwN> z00m_: good stuff
[10:30] <z00m_> thanks SpAwN
[10:30] <babble> hi all :)
[10:30] <babble> (newbie questions are okay?)
[10:30] <z00m_> it that it then now ?
[10:30] <apokryphos> babble: no!!
[10:30] <babble> hehe
[10:30] <apokryphos> =)
[10:31] <apokryphos> babble: all kubuntu-related questions are of course welcome :)
[10:31] <SpAwN> z00m_: yea for the driver u will be all set till either A: a kernel update or B: a xorg update
[10:31] <SpAwN> z00m_: then all u have to is that again....but its realy easy
[10:31] <babble> hehe. :)
[10:31] <SpAwN> babble: we arnt mind readers so out with the qeustion!
[10:31] <babble> can I configure Konq. to open a given folder (home, or any arbitrary location) in something other than icon view?
[10:32] <z00m_> SpAwN: yea it not to bad when u got someone talking you through it, thanks again for that ;) .... i have a ! mark in the bottom right saying there are 53 upgradable files
[10:32] <babble> ideally, I need per-folder views to be different for any given place.
[10:33] <SpAwN> z00m_: upgrade then =D
[10:33] <z00m_> :) 53 ...
[10:33] <z00m_> man i onyl downloaded the distro today
[10:33] <SpAwN> babble: i dont know how to do that maby ask in #kde
[10:33] <z00m_> only
[10:33] <babble> thanks tho :)
[10:34] <z00m_> well im downloading them anyways
[10:34] <SpAwN> z00m_: ahh 1st thing i do after a install is update it
[10:36] <z00m_> SpAwN: had a dad time today with my 250GB usb drive, i was running windows and thats why now im going to linux. I had something on my computer no anti virus was detecting it but i kept getting DEP warnings from .exe files that I never had them on before, so i know something was playing around with them.
[10:38] <z00m_> bad^
[10:38] <SpAwN> z00m_: yea there are some truly nasty little works for windows
[10:38] <SpAwN> *worms
[10:39] <z00m_> after trying to install windows again, i selected to delete partition on the wrong drive through rushing, my 250gb one with everything i had backed up on it
[10:39] <SpAwN> z00m_: been there....only it was a 120 gig
[10:39] <SpAwN> external
[10:39] <z00m_> thought to myself thats it windows is going for sure!
[10:40] <z00m_> mines a external 250gb drive USB
[10:40] <SpAwN> nice
[10:40] <SpAwN> i have a 250 internal and a120 external
[10:40] <dr_willis> thats barely enough for my err.. vacation pics.. :P
[10:40] <z00m_> all the CD's i had around the house i bined and put them on that drive so now i have nothing :(
[10:41] <SpAwN> the external is sooooooo handy for storing rare movies/music...stuff im afraid i could deldte
[10:41] <z00m_> dr_willis: lol
[10:41] <SpAwN> dr_willis: llol
[10:41] <SpAwN> my goal is to have at least a half TB
[10:41] <z00m_> dr_willis: you got them saved as .BMP's  lol
[10:42] <SpAwN> z00m_: i think he was being sarcastic.............
[10:42] <dr_willis> Heck i got like 8gb of just wallpaper pics ive collected over the last few years
[10:42] <z00m_> i know yeah
[10:42] <z00m_> :D
[10:42] <SpAwN> lol
[10:43] <z00m_> my drive was PGP encrypted with the HOLE disk option also, so i think there is noway to restore the partition on it :(
[10:44] <SpAwN> hehe im to lazy to encrypt a drive
[10:44] <dr_willis> 0_o now what kind of videos would ya bother to encrypt? ......
[10:44] <dr_willis> Now they will get ya for destruction of evidence
[10:44] <Howitzer> Does anyone here have any basic knowledge about bash (scripting)?
[10:44] <z00m_> o_O   :    No there was a few handy tools on there and loads of games and magic videos and stuff
[10:45] <SpAwN> z00m_: maby u could try knoppix-std its geared toward forensics and recovery/black hat
[10:45] <SpAwN> Howitzer: #bash probly does
[10:45] <Howitzer> oh
[10:45] <Howitzer> ty SpAwN :D
[10:45] <SpAwN> Howitzer: np
[10:46] <jerry> I have a question
[10:46] <SpAwN> dr_willis: so if u have a encrypted drive and somehow someone needs the shit in it....they could get u for that?
[10:46] <jerry> hello
[10:46] <SpAwN> someone as in the law
[10:46] <jerry> I have a question
[10:47] <SpAwN> jerry: we dont read minds
[10:47] <jerry> about Mail - Contact
[10:47] <z00m_> SpAwN: I could try to restore them but most of the stuff is for windows and if i do restore it within a week or so, ill get some spyware that will wipe it again or something.   Im not going to bother
[10:47] <bluesceada> hi
[10:47] <jerry> it won't check my email and keeps poping up with errors
[10:47] <bluesceada> i have a problem...
[10:47] <SpAwN> ahh k z00m_
[10:47] <bluesceada> somehow kubuntu uses a buggy trident driver
[10:48] <jerry> I used aol.com
[10:48] <jerry> but it says can not connect to aim.com
[10:48] <bluesceada> some game says, it cant allocate memory or so
[10:48] <bluesceada> and another thing is that the tft display on the laptop is moved to the right by 2 or 3 pixels
[10:48] <dr_willis> i saw a case the other day. a guy got fired.. so he formated his work laptop and reinstalled it to defaults.. then returned it..
[10:48] <bluesceada> so i have 2/3 black lines at the left and 2/3 lines missing at the right
[10:48] <bluesceada> :/
[10:49] <jerry> and it is a imap server
[10:49] <dr_willis> the company wanted to scan it for evidence of him doing 'things' so they charged him with destroying evidence. :P but not sure wht the crime was. lol
[10:49] <jerry> I have a question
[10:49] <z00m_> lol
[10:49] <bluesceada> anyone knows how to use another, maybe newer xorg trident driver??
[10:49] <z00m_> dr_willis: he should have said what evidence !!
[10:49] <SpAwN> dr_willis: id be pissed
[10:50] <z00m_> they got no way to prove it
[10:50] <jerry> Does anyone know how to get it so that at 2PM it downloads all the updated packages
[10:50] <dr_willis> yea - im not sure if the WHOLE sotory came out.. i just rember that bit.
[10:50] <jerry> for adept
[10:51] <jerry> Is there something I can put in /etc/crontab that will do that?
[10:52] <z00m_> saying that though i think if they want to see what is / was on the harddrive it is possible to restore files from 10 formats ago, so thats why i use encryption on all the files!
[10:53] <dr_willis> that implies you could store 10x the data on a hd...
[10:54] <SpAwN> how can i use apt-get to automaticly dl updates?..i want to set up a cron job to auto update it
[10:54] <jerry> Does anyone know how to do that?
[10:54] <z00m_> thats how these shredder programs work, what they do is then write over the file data with 000000 and 111111.   about 30 times per file so it makes it harder to restore if not impossible
[10:54] <jerry> I have the same question that SpAwN has
[10:54] <SpAwN> z00m_: shred for linux is supposed to work good
[10:54] <SpAwN> Jeff_:
[10:55] <jerry> how can i use apt-get to automaticaly dl updates? I want to set up a cron job to auto update it
[10:55] <SpAwN> * jerry im new to kubuntu and apt-get
[10:55] <jerry> me too
[10:55] <jerry> I just got this computer from them about a week ago
[10:55] <jerry> They gave me free 3 yr techsupport but only 100 sessions left and I'd rather not use them all until I have big problems like the computer not turning on
[10:56] <SpAwN> ijust installed kubuntu like a week ag o many
[10:56] <jerry> but these people are very friendly and helpful
[10:56] <jerry> I think the main people are off shift right now
[10:56] <dr_willis> ive never notiuced  ubuntu having any auto-download & update feature.
[10:56] <dr_willis> not sure if any other distros do that either.
[10:56] <SpAwN> dr_willis: it would be easy enough to make a simple bash script to do it
[10:56] <dr_willis> i think RH may
[10:57] <chun_> yea you can make a cron job
[10:57] <SpAwN> dr_willis: on mandriva i made a bash script to auto update every day at 6am
[10:57] <dr_willis> but is it really that needed. :)
[10:57] <jerry> right now I have 13 updates I need
[10:57] <SpAwN> chun_: do u know how to use apt-get to update?
[10:57] <jerry> I don't really care to do this every day
[10:57] <SpAwN> dr_willis: it is nice to have
[10:57] <jerry> yesderday it seemed like 6
[10:58] <jerry> tomorrow it will probably be another 6
[10:58] <dr_willis> untill theres a update that breaks somthing. :P
[10:58] <SpAwN> dr_willis: on mandriva that rarly happened...wost thing was x wouldnt start back up....i d neeed to reinstall the driver..took all of 2 mins
[10:58] <chun_> i haven't tried it yet, but you  can probably use kchron and have the commands be:
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: cups has been updated from dapper-updates
[10:59] <driz> I need to dual boot kubuntu on my friends NTFS windows. anyone please help.
[10:59] <chun_> apt-get -y update; apt-get -y upgrade
[10:59] <driz> he defragmented but he doesnt know what to do.
[10:59] <SpAwN> chun_: just what i need to know big thanks =D
[10:59] <chun_> no prob =)
[11:01] <jimmy__> I have a hardware question for the masses
[11:01] <jimmy__> can I do that here?
[11:01] <dr_willis> Go for iit!
[11:01] <jimmy__> cool
[11:02] <scott> hey, does google earth (native) cause hardlocks for anyone else using an ati and fglrx drivers?
[11:02] <jimmy__> I have a motherboard that has power running to it
[11:02] <jimmy__> led light is on and everything
[11:02] <jimmy__> but the pc wont power up
[11:02] <jimmy__> no lights on the case
[11:03] <jimmy__> no fans turn
[11:03] <jimmy__> dead in the water
[11:03] <jimmy__> not the PSU
[11:03] <jimmy__> and the memery works
[11:05] <jimmy__> come on.... there ought to be someone out there with any idea
[11:06] <SpAwN> Hawkwind: would u like me to post a auto update script for kubuntu on lfd?
[11:06] <Knag> hey
[11:06] <dr_willis> no beeps?
[11:06] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Sure, if you have one.  That would be awesome
[11:07] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: I need to start getting more Kubuntu/Ubuntu stuff on the LFD forums.  Majority of it is Mandriva related
[11:07] <SpAwN> Hawkwind: i will try and write up a little howto/script tonight...i have the script now....but will write up a littel somthing on it
[11:07] <SpAwN> Hawkwind: yea i saw
[11:07] <jimmy__> no beeps
[11:08] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Kewl.  If you'll post it then I'll edit it later if need be to pretty it up :)
[11:08] <jimmy__> all you hear is the click of the power switch
[11:09] <SpAwN> Hawkwind: here it is ....just used the old mandriva one...changed it a bit http://pastebin.ca/82698
[11:09] <jimmy__> fans dont even jerk from the effort to turn on
[11:09] <_simian_> i've got 2 ubuntu (kubuntu) machine on my network. 1 has a document that i want to edit from another machine. but when i try to open it openoffice loads and then closes again
[11:10] <jimmy__> I'm thinking that I'm down to the CPU or the motherboard being bad
[11:10] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Kewl.  Pretty simply, but makes it easy
[11:10] <dr_willis> jimmy__,  that almost sounds like part of the PS may be bad.
[11:10] <dr_willis> i think if ya take out the cpu. the mb will beep at ya.
[11:10] <jimmy__> not the PSU
[11:10] <jimmy__> just replaced it
[11:11] <dr_willis> when in doubt Prove it. :P try a nother  PSU
[11:11] <jimmy__> I even tested my old one and its good
[11:11] <dr_willis> double check the conectors on the mb.
[11:11] <dr_willis> tripple check everything. :P
[11:11] <jimmy__> checked it more that 4x
[11:11] <dr_willis> then start swapping out bits.
[11:11] <SpAwN> Hawkwind: yea very basic
[11:11] <jimmy__> swpped out everything except CPU and mb
[11:12] <dr_willis> i would strip the thing down to just the cpu and mb. and ram /video card
[11:12] <MehAdult> jimmy__: Did you try shorting the 2 pins that control powering the mobo?
[11:12] <jimmy__> I need another mb that takes 939 pin cpu (it's 64 bit)
[11:13] <gatekeeper> evening all
[11:13] <dr_willis> If you are not getting any Beeps from the POST test.. that sounds like the CPU may be dead.
[11:13] <jerry> super
[11:13] <jimmy__> hmmm
[11:13] <jimmy__> gotcha
[11:14] <jerry> the whole system is lagging I have no idea why
[11:15] <MehAdult> jerry: What are your CPU usage, memory, and swap usage?
[11:16] <jerry> how do I find that out?
[11:16] <MehAdult> top is a good utility
[11:16] <jerry> well now it's saying that I have 5 updates
[11:16] <jerry> how many updates did I say I had before?
[11:17] <MehAdult> Updates? Huh?
[11:17] <jerry> 16
[11:17] <jerry> I think
[11:17] <MehAdult> Are you trying to update your system or something?
[11:17] <jerry> ya
[11:17] <jerry> well the crontab worked for the most part
[11:18] <jerry> I have a question
[11:18] <MehAdult> So do I. My question is...
[11:18] <jerry> What exactly are these card ports on the front of my computer good for?
[11:18] <MehAdult> Why is the sky blue? :p
[11:18] <MehAdult> jerry: What kind of ports are they?
[11:18] <jerry> reflection on the earth
[11:18] <dr_willis> Difraction of the air.
[11:19] <dr_willis> :P
[11:19] <dr_willis> its not blue.. its just how you see it. :)
[11:19] <jerry> it's actually reflecting the earth color
[11:19] <dr_willis> its actually hot pink.
[11:19] <MrSquiddy> join #hottub
[11:19] <MehAdult> Or not...
[11:19] <jerry> anyway
[11:20] <MehAdult> What kind of port is it?
[11:20] <jerry> I have no idea what those 16 updates were but atleast I won't have to see them anymore
[11:20] <jerry> It's one of those card slots
[11:20] <sotired> my sound has stopped working in some games, and some games only play certian sounds. can someone help me fix this?
[11:20] <jerry> I have two of them
[11:20] <MehAdult> Dunno
[11:20] <jerry> ones a big fat one and the other is like a smaller slot
[11:21] <user->  situred:  get windows
[11:21] <sotired> ha no
[11:21] <sotired> they all worked...then suddenly stopped
[11:21] <sotired> im not going back to win...id rather have someone show me hwo to fix this
[11:21] <MehAdult> sotired: It might be a conflict.
[11:21] <jerry> well one looks like the slot for one of those camera picture cards
[11:21] <mad_slackie> a good night to all ladies and gentlemans!
[11:22] <MehAdult> Sometimes it can conflict, esp. if a game doesn't know how to use arts
[11:22] <jerry> and I have no floppy drive
[11:22] <jerry> anymore
[11:22] <MehAdult> jerry: You said it was a media reader for like digital cameras?
[11:22] <Jefis> hi, i have some situation here, i try to isntall kubuntu, and setup crashes, at detecting hardware
[11:22] <jerry> something like thayt
[11:22] <Jefis> trying third time
[11:22] <jerry> it's got this one that looks like it could fit something with pins on it
[11:22] <z00m_> is there a skype for linux ?
[11:22] <jerry> I'll count them
[11:23] <Jefis> z00m_: jes, there is
[11:23] <sotired> mehadult: so what do i do? on a sidenote the apps that arent working are not running in wine, they are native linux games
[11:23] <MehAdult> z00m_: You betcha!
[11:23] <z00m_> thanks
[11:23] <jerry> maybe 100 pins
[11:23] <jerry> It's a aria case if that helps
[11:23] <jerry> I'm just wondering what I can do with them
[11:23] <MehAdult> sotired: I've heard you can try artsdsp (executable) to force something to use arts which is what KDE uses.
[11:23] <MehAdult> jerry: Got a pic?
[11:24] <z00m_> MehAdult: where do you get it from ?
[11:24] <z00m_> i just tryed adept manager
[11:24] <jerry> aira
[11:24] <Jefis> www.skype.com
[11:24] <jerry> might
[11:24] <MehAdult> z00m_: Do you have the universe/multiverse set up?
[11:24] <z00m_> yes
[11:24] <sotired> mehadult: would that explain why it worked when i installed the games but suddenly stopped?
[11:24] <MehAdult> I'm not sure if that matters or not but it's a good idea.
[11:24] <MehAdult> z00m_: Ok try skype.com
[11:25] <z00m_> in the search ?
[11:25] <MehAdult> sotired: That's what I'm thinking yes.
[11:25] <z00m_> or there site ?
[11:25] <jerry> Here it is http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15130
[11:26] <jerry> if you look in the photo you'll see these two card slots
[11:26] <sotired> mehadult: artsdsp only works for binaries?
[11:27] <MehAdult> sotired: I never tried it.
[11:27] <MehAdult> Successfully.
[11:27] <MrSquiddy> z00m_: Skype is definitely in my Adept and I don't have any special repos enabled except the universe
[11:27] <jerry> it's got these two card slots
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> The penguin liberation front have dapper skype deb's
[11:27] <jerry> I have no idea what they're good for
[11:27] <jerry> what's skype?
[11:28] <abattoir> MrSquiddy: debian packages installed w/ dpkg are also added to the 'adept list'
[11:28] <sotired> damn...i jsut want this to work
[11:28] <h3sp4wn> VOIP
[11:28] <MasterEvil`Lapto> jerry: VoIP service
[11:28] <jerry> You can call anyone with it free?
[11:28] <sotired> for now
[11:28] <jerry> seriously
[11:28] <jerry> ok call me<PHONE_NUMBER>
[11:28] <sotired> skypeout is free untill at least end of 2006
[11:28] <z00m_> MrSquiddy: are you in adept manager ?
[11:28] <jerry> I bet this dosen't work
[11:29] <sotired> it works...why wouldnt it...are you like a voip non believer or something?
[11:29] <z00m_> brb
[11:29] <jerry> well call<PHONE_NUMBER> and prove that it works
[11:29] <sotired> i dont use skype
[11:29] <user->  lol
[11:29] <jerry> hw do you know if it works then?
[11:29] <user->  he's an nerd
[11:29] <sotired> why do you think it wont work?
[11:30] <h3sp4wn> I know it works (my housemate wastes my upstream bandwidth with it far too often)
[11:30] <sotired> do you think skype doesnt work? or voip in general
[11:30] <jerry> well I can't believe that someone would give free phone service
[11:31] <sotired> because i am using vonage (i know iknow) and my voip works fine
[11:31] <sotired> skype is not free
[11:31] <sotired> its free OUTGOING till the end of the year...if you want ppl to be avble to call you back then u have to pay
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> Skype works fine (If you have qos setup properly)
[11:31] <z00m> MrSquiddy: its not there in my list
[11:31] <sotired> but ebay bought it and they can afford to give it away...trust me
[11:31] <jerry> see how can they do that?
[11:32] <abattoir> these are the latest skype packages http://skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html
[11:32] <ubuntu> hi folks i| m new on linux so please don|t be too offended if i ask a stupid question once in a while
[11:32] <abattoir> apparently w/ also support
[11:33] <ubuntu> the first question i have is, how can i setup up mz display_
[11:33] <abattoir> *alsa support
[11:33] <MrSquiddy> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb is the latest.
[11:33] <ubuntu> since i am not able to set the resolution to its regular value of 1620x1050
[11:34] <abattoir> MrSquiddy: yes the latest 'stable' version
[11:34] <z00m> i just dont know why it is not in my list if everyone else has it