[01:34] <tombalablomba> @protocol1, it will take care to that by itself
[01:34] <SlimeyPete> protocol1: just tell synaptic/adept to update.
[01:34] <peepsalot> kbrooks, well, if you wanted to use the bt package manager, there would be an always on daemon for uploading
[01:34] <kane77> Slart, no, i tabed it and it completed.. neither bin/racer nor cd-ing into that directory and running ./racer doesnt work..
[01:34] <Slart> kane77: or try putting a dot first   ./bin/racer
[01:35] <kbrooks> peepsalot, that would take up bandwith.
[01:35] <Slart> kane77: is it a free game?
[01:35] <fortitUs> http://ftp.science.nus.edu.sg/linux/ubuntu-ISO/feisty/
[01:35] <fortitUs> T_T
[01:35] <kane77> Slart, yes... racer.nl
[01:35] <Zorlin> I'm burning the iso!
[01:35] <Zorlin> yay!
[01:35] <Slart> kane77: if it is, I can download it and check
[01:35] <deltaray2> Haha
[01:35] <peepsalot> kbrooks, i think this would maybe not be the best thing for everyone, but if it saved canonical money, I (and hopefully some other) would be willing to use it
[01:35] <deltaray2> That's funny, the first thing on here when I login is a link to a place I can get fiesty
[01:36] <Slart> kane77: latest stable?
[01:36] <drew> thats beta fortitUs.
[01:36] <peepsalot> kbrooks, i guess the question is if their bandwidth bill is really much of an issue
[01:36] <kane77> Slart, yes, 0.5
[01:36] <fortitUs> drew: i know.. why isnt the full thing out T_T
[01:36] <albert> holy jesus, this is like mass panic
[01:36] <kbrooks> peepsalot, it scales up
[01:36] <kbrooks> peepsalot, http doesnt
[01:36] <drew> fortitUs its out http://www.releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[01:36] <darkhack> anyone of you going or download 64bit ubuntu?
[01:37] <luigi> darkhack: I don't think so
[01:37] <notred> dont panic
[01:37] <rambo3> drew, look at iso date
[01:37] <ensan> is it out already?
[01:38] <Seveas> One moment guys
[01:38] <Seveas> WE ARE NOW THE 4TH BIGGEST CHANNEL ON THE PLANET :)
[01:38] <fortitUs> drew: i know.. but its damm bloody slow if not from the singapore server
[01:38] <fami> Seveas: -m
[01:38] <Nermal> 15th april torrent link is today
[01:38] <Seveas> end of announcement :)
[01:38] <laichzeit> what's the first?
[01:38] <deg0nz|weq> h3h3
[01:38] <fami> Seveas: :D
[01:38] <dv5237_> Yeah ubuntu gets verry populair
[01:38] <Seveas> first 2 are on dalnet, we'll be third biggest soon ;)
[01:39] <darkhack> anyone got any champan?
[01:39] <darkhack> lol
[01:39] <apokryphos> it's the largest on Freenode though, of course
[01:39] <luigi> Seveas: where do you get the stats from?
[01:39] <peepsalot> kbrooks, i suppose for the daemon you could set limits to time of day or upload bandwidth allowed
[01:39] <Seveas> luigi, http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/top100.php (freenode channels aren't on that list though)
[01:39] <luigi^> oh thanks
[01:40] <Woody_> guys, where can we check the number of Ubuntu Fiestys downloads?
[01:40] <SpiritDragoon> enough people in ere?
[01:40] <Ferrixman> !it
[01:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:40] <drew> http://www.releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[01:41] <SpiritDragoon> i would pmsl if we had a net split now
[01:41] <PriceChild> Woody_, can't, there's too many different source
[01:41] <PriceChild> s
[01:41] <dieselmusa> anyone know a way to hide the network drives on ubuntu desktop?
[01:42] <Woody_> SpiritDragoon, i mean from the ubuntu.com
[01:42] <PriceChild>  dieselmusa open up gconf-editor then go to apps>nautilus>desktop and its an option there if i remember correctly
[01:42] <luis> hola
[01:42] <moDumass> hey all, how do i install and use wine, i think i have installed it, but i have no idea how to add it to a menu or use it, im trying to install skype inside wine because i have heard you can then use the camera and mic
[01:42] <laichzeit> can anyone verify if the torrent on releases.ubuntu is 7.04 final?
[01:42] <moDumass> boom
[01:42] <Slart> kane77: bah.. it's giving me all kinds of errors about stuff not being there or here or whatever.. might be becase i'm running 64-bit
[01:42] <fami> laichzeit: md5sum
[01:42] <dieselmusa> Thank you PriceChild
[01:42] <drew> laichzeit i can varify that it doesn't work
[01:42] <luis> soy nuevo como va esto
[01:42] <jrib> laichzeit: it is not final until an announcement is made.  Notice the date on the iso's
[01:42] <sldkfj> darkhack, 64 bit is no good?
[01:42] <maswan> laichzeit: Once it gets released, we can tell you.
[01:42] <kane77> Slart, me too (64)...
[01:43] <Slart> kane77: you don't get the errormessage?
[01:43] <kane77> Slart, no
[01:43] <apokryphos> sldkfj: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:43] <kane77> Slart, could 64-bit be also cause of not being able to install enemy territory?
[01:43] <Slart> kane77: nah.. I have enemy territory working alright
[01:43] <kane77> Slart, I always get ./setup.sh: 278: /home/kane/.setup9130: not found
[01:43] <Woody_> how can i install the Fiesty Final without losing my older Fiesty Beta settings and files?
[01:44] <Slart> kane77: don't remember if I had to do something special though
[01:44] <AskHL> moDumass, with regards to wine, you can run the commands wine file.exe and winecfg to run things. Generally if you install things through installers using wine, it will add shortcuts
[01:44] <fami> how can i install the Fiesty Final without losing my older 6.06 LTS  settings and files?
[01:44] <AskHL> moDumass, err, wine file.exe to run things, winecfg to configure.
[01:44] <fortitUs> how big is the final file in kiliobits?
[01:44] <tombalablomba> @Woody, it will automagically move from beta to final via synaptic or aptget
[01:44] <fortitUs> feisty final
[01:44] <fami> fortitUs: why bit?
[01:45] <fami> fortitUs: use MB
[01:45] <sldkfj> ahh, the ol' Dbootstrap disclaimer
[01:45] <imbalanc33> so has the final come out yet>
[01:45] <fortitUs> because my download speed is 60kbitsps
[01:45] <Woody_> tombalablomba, can that be done right now? cause i tried many times, and it says there is no updates
[01:45] <Sarkie> | No, Feisty isn't out yet. - Please do all your waiting in #ubuntu-release-party and keep this channel support-related'
[01:45] <imbalanc33> ok sory
[01:45] <Sarkie> Anyone got a list of new supported wireless usb with Feisty?
[01:45] <fami> fortitUs: about 1hour+ for u?
[01:45] <tombalablomba> Woody for me as well, i'll assume it will do when it hits the repos
[01:46] <tombalablomba> maybe it's already the final version
[01:46] <Woody_> tombalablomba, i already downloaded the Fiesty Final.iso file, can i install that without losing my older files/settings?
[01:46] <Sarkie> Feisty isnt final though....
[01:46] <fami> how can i install the Fiesty Final without losing my older 6.06 LTS  settings and files?
[01:46] <tombalablomba> Woody_ do you run feisty beta?
[01:46] <fortitUs>  fami: thanks
[01:47] <Sengar> /names
[01:47] <Woody_> yes tombalablomba
[01:47] <tombalablomba> Then no need to do anything, just wait
[01:47] <luis> hola alguna espaola
[01:47] <tombalablomba> via synaptic it will update itself
[01:47] <Woody_> #ubuntu-es
[01:48] <Woody_> luis #ubuntu-es
[01:48] <PriceChild> !es | luis
[01:48] <ubotu> luis: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:48] <Woody_> thanks tombalablomba
[01:48] <luis> hola alguna espaola
[01:48] <tombalablomba> yw
[01:48] <fami> !ugrade
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ugrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <Woody_> tombalablomba, it updates or redownloads the 700MB file?
[01:48] <fami> !upgrade
[01:48] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:48] <tombalablomba> Woody, it just updates
[01:49] <Woody_> ah cool tombalablomba
[01:49] <tombalablomba> no large download
[01:49] <Woody_> thank you very much tombalablomba
[01:49] <fami> how can i install the Fiesty Final without losing my older 6.06 LTS  settings and files?
[01:49] <ogra> lol
[01:49] <tombalablomba> depends fami
[01:49] <fortitUs> fami: Install it on a new partition? xD
[01:49] <Hooloovoo> Where can i find feisty final?
[01:50] <PriceChild> fami, feisty in #ubuntu+1
[01:50] <PriceChild> Hooloovoo, feisty in #ubuntu+1
[01:50] <Zorlin> Ooh.
[01:50] <dcomsa> fami: update-manager -c -d
[01:50] <Daverocks> fami: the safest way is to upgrade to edgy (6.10) first, then feisty
[01:50] <Slart> kane77: I'm downloading the source now.. we'll see if it compiles
[01:50] <sldkfj> how long is a dl from that site posted here a few minutes ago?  I want to connect with gatech.edu  (it's just down the street)
[01:50] <IdleOne> !upgrade > fami    (fami, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:50] <fami> thanks you
[01:50] <fami> 6.06 -> 6.10
[01:50] <bimberi> !feisty | RichEd
[01:50] <ubotu> RichEd: Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn
[01:50] <RichEd> mmm seems a bit crowded here today ;)
[01:51] <fami> but don't see how 6.10 -> 7.04
[01:51] <Woody_> fami, check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[01:51] <RichEd> fami: 6.10 = 2006 October
[01:51] <RichEd> 7.04 is 2007 April
[01:51] <dcomsa> fami: 6.04 -> 6.10 -> 7.04
[01:51] <sldkfj> RichEd, we're partying.  everybody's not going into work today
[01:51] <bruenig> I wonder if this thing will get over 2000
[01:51] <fami> YES, thanks
[01:51] <shadowroq> hello
[01:51] <Kaur> hi
[01:52] <RichEd> sldkfj: some of us don't go to work, we stay hone and work ;)
[01:52] <ElllisD> how can i burn the iso to a usb flash drive & install from there?
[01:52] <luis> alguna latina
[01:52] <Seveas> !es | luis
[01:52] <ubotu> luis: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:53] <SpacePuppy> !usb
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <PriceChild> luis, /join #ubuntu-es
[01:53] <fami> i think would reinstall, coz my /home is on other partition
[01:53] <siriusly> downloading feisty final now :-)
[01:53] <dcomsa> fami: smart move
[01:54] <fami> dcomsa: thanks
[01:54] <PriceChild> siriusly, please don't kill the mirrors.
[01:54] <siriusly> ??
[01:54] <mellow_bunny> its not the final
[01:54] <Woody_> siriusly, nothing its just a meaningless joke
[01:55] <Xamusk> what time does the final come out?
[01:55] <siriusly> fraid it is http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[01:55] <PriceChild> siriusly, feisty is not released yet. Copies of it here and there are for mirrors to grab. Please don't increase the collosal load on the mirrors.
[01:55] <Woody_> Xamusk it already did
[01:55] <mellow_bunny> !feisty
[01:55] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn
[01:56] <Xamusk> I think it didn't
[01:56] <n00bie> hello folks
[01:56] <Xamusk> there's only that 15th version
[01:57] <n00bie> my bluetooth doesn't work in ubuntu
[01:57] <billy> how can I find the device names of my dvd reader and writer?
[01:57] <sivaji> ple someone help me i got this error when i install feisty "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16382/"
[01:57] <ElllisD> billy lspci
[01:57] <n00bie> unable to read device - while the module is being loaded ?
[01:58] <FSGeofs> feisty
[01:58] <FSGeofs> feisty
[01:58] <FSGeofs> feisty
[01:58] <FSGeofs> feisty
[01:58] <billy> ElllisD, sorry.  I don't think I was clear.  I'm trying to find where it is in /dev/.
[01:58] <siriusly> downloading final now
[01:58] <ElllisD> billy- sorry- dunno
[01:58] <PriceChild> FSGeofs, please don't :)
[01:58] <billy> ElllisD, thanks for response though. :)
[01:59] <Woody_> I think Bill
[01:59] <Woody_> I think Bill Gates is Angry now :)
[01:59] <Pakalaka> hi all is it officially released as yet :)
[02:00] <n8kraft> anyone having difficulty with the torrent download? http://jp.releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[02:00] <PriceChild> n8kraft, feisty isn't released. Read the topic
[02:01] <ElllisD> How do i go about putting the iso file onto a usb drive such that it's same as a cd burned?
[02:01] <Jordan_U> Pakalaka, Depends on your definition of "officially" :)
[02:01] <sivaji> i got this error when i install feisty http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16383/
[02:01] <Jordan_U> ElllisD, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[02:01] <PriceChild> sivaji, #ubuntu+1 please
[02:01] <__bmgz__> Are there any torrents yet??
[02:02] <ElllisD> Jordan_U: Awesome!! TYTYTY VVM
[02:02] <PriceChild> __bmgz__, read the topic please
[02:03] <bayziders> !fiesty
[02:03] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn
[02:03] <__bmgz__> PriceChild: lol I suggested they do that earlier.. LOL
[02:03] <n00bie> Is there a text mail client in ubuntu ?
[02:03] <rrichie> hi all
[02:04] <rrichie> do you know why i can't access ubuntu.com website?
[02:04] <Scapy> is there anyway i can have documentation of exim4 installation and configuration under ubuntu 6.10 etch
[02:04] <freakynl> n00bie: like pine, mutt? not sure, should be check package manager
[02:04] <FSGeofs> yeah, feisty is coming
[02:04] <freakynl> rrichie: some issue, updates?
[02:04] <apokryphos> rrichie: release flood
[02:04] <rrichie> ok
[02:04] <Jordan_U> rrichie, I wouldn't whait for all 1445 of us to say hi back if I were you :)
[02:04] <freakynl> apokryphos: it's released? thought it would be tomorrow?
[02:04] <__bmgz__> I wonder how much traffic has been generated from ubuntu.com and all associated sites regarding feisty release..
[02:04] <apokryphos> freakynl: today sometime
[02:04] <ravi_> ok, how do I upgrade my distribution from beta to final?
[02:05] <bimberi> n00bie: mailx (very basic) and mutt (not basic)
[02:05] <Adam1213>  probably heaps of people are checking to see if the release is out yet
[02:05] <soho> rrichie; dos-attack ;-)
[02:05] <bayziders> Fiesty out yet =/ ?
[02:05] <FSGeofs> apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:05] <Jordan_U> ravi_, Just use Update Manager
[02:05] <soho> bayziders; yes
[02:05] <FSGeofs> uh sorry
[02:05] <FSGeofs> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:05] <FSGeofs> ;)
[02:05] <n00bie> bimberi, mailx is mail client ??
[02:05] <bayziders> soho: link please
[02:05] <larryone> yes it is
[02:05] <ravi_> Jordan_u, where is update manager
[02:05] <FSGeofs> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dit-upgrade
[02:05] <larryone> mailx is command line mail client
[02:05] <FSGeofs> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:06] <soho> bayziders; wget http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[02:06] <ElllisD> <<---  outta here till noon est- if its out before that pls seed for me
[02:06] <fami> soho: its old
[02:06] <bayziders> Its not the beta??
[02:06] <fami> soho: don't download
[02:06] <melodos> does anyone know any clone imaging program that can create a full image of my hdd including partitions and the mbr?
[02:06] <bimberi> n00bie: yes, it includes the 'mail' command itselv
[02:07] <freakynl> apokryphos: not yet thus? can't reach the website. my local mirror only has beta images. need to do some linux installs for some testing stuff, would be nice if i could use the new version
[02:07] <soho> fami; i don't think so, why should this be beta?
[02:07] <Jordan_U> melodos, dd
[02:07] <bimberi> *itself
[02:07] <apokryphos> freakynl: it hasn't been released yet, no
[02:07] <ravi_> FSGeofs: I am on a local mirror, those commands did nothing for me
[02:07] <freakynl> thx :)
[02:07] <bayziders> Okay.
[02:07] <ravi_> FSGeofs: do you want me to change over to the United States server?
[02:07] <fami> soho: time stamp check
[02:07] <fami> soho: :D
[02:08] <ivan_> Hi everybody, one quick quesiton.. the torrent that is on the mirrros for 7.04 that has been updated today, is it for the release iso?
[02:08] <melodos> Jordan_U: will tha include all my partitions both windows and linux ones + the mbr?
[02:08] <n00bie> bimberi, how do I recieve mails from mailx
[02:08] <FSGeofs> ravi_, just type it in your terminal
[02:08] <Jordan_U> melodos, Yes
[02:08] <fami> ivan_: no, wait all mirror sync together
[02:08] <fami> :D
[02:08] <soho> fami; yes, but it's the official release-site and there are no betas in i think
[02:08] <kal__> hi there
[02:09] <ravi_> FSGeofs: I have, does nothing at all
[02:09] <Phoenix_G> hi here
[02:09] <Rudd-O> hello there
[02:09] <fami> soho: no
[02:09] <Rudd-O> how can I get in touch with the Upstart author?
[02:09] <bayziders> ubuntu.com is totaly down for me...
[02:09] <bimberi> n00bie: type 'mail' and any waiting emails will be readable
[02:09] <FSGeofs> well, i guess you're totally up to date then ;)
[02:09] <delire> bayziders: it's choked. too much traffic.
[02:09] <ivan_> darn =).. i just had my hard drive blown away yesterday and i am waiting for 7.04 to get out to install it ... thanks for the info!!! will keep checking
[02:09] <DoubleOSven> http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[02:09] <drew> 1452 members in here =\
[02:10] <Phoenix_G> we need other 50 users
[02:10] <bimberi> fami: APR? :)
[02:10] <Phoenix_G> to break 1500
[02:10] <kal__> i have just recompiled my own kernel, and im wondering how can i get the following paquet for my new kernel : linux-restricted-modules
[02:10] <rsk> Rudd-O in #upstart perhaps
[02:10] <fami> bimberi: yippppppppppp
[02:10] <kal__> it seems its just for the official kernel
[02:10] <fami> Phoenix_G: get 1st?
[02:10] <ravi_> FSGeofs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16385/ how can I tell that I am?
[02:10] <soho> fami; also look: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[02:10] <kal__> if i compile my own one, then ... i can't use that
[02:10] <bayziders> brb
[02:10] <delire> Phoenix_G: it'll happen when all the kids that used Automatix2 in Edgy come in with their broken upgrades.
[02:10] <Phoenix_G> lol
[02:11] <fami> soho: i see,
[02:11] <fami> my 6.06 LTS is supported to 2008
[02:11] <mc44> delire: I blame Micheal Dell
[02:11] <fami> 2008?
[02:11] <melodos> Jordan_U: where is that dd program?
[02:11] <soho> 6.06 is till 2009
[02:11] <melodos> Jordan_U: is it easy to use it?
[02:11] <soho> 6.10 till 2008
[02:12] <delire> mc44: well it's a positive place to find blame.
[02:12] <fami> soho: yes, why worry to move soon?
[02:12] <ravi_> hey, how can I tell that I am upgraded to Feisty non-beta?
[02:12] <ajeet> how to add keyboard shortcut to system monitor application?
[02:12] <soho> no worry ;-)
[02:12] <FSGeofs> there is not a single new packet available for you
[02:12] <FSGeofs> congratulations
[02:12] <nach0s> where isssss feisty fawn ?
[02:12] <FSGeofs> i am feisty fawn
[02:12] <Zs> can anyone help me on GRUB problem
[02:12] <larryone> hi, I think I have a problem with my graphics card... my x session keeps hanging intermittantly. does anyone know how I might be able to debug this
[02:12] <fami> FSGeofs: packages
[02:12] <Phoenix_G> hiding fro you
[02:12] <larryone> ?
[02:12] <Phoenix_G> *from
[02:13] <Thiesen> what about this?? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ would that be the final version??
[02:13] <ravi_> fami: packages come in packets to you
[02:13] <taggie> larryone, do you see anything in ~.xsession-errors ?
[02:13] <Zs> Can anyone help me on GRUB problem?
[02:13] <ajeet> %C10how to add keyboard shortcut to system monitor application?
[02:13] <fami> lol ravi_
[02:13] <larryone> taggie: I'll have a look
[02:13] <fami> ravi_: are you at there?
[02:13] <leagris> Zs ZullGRUB is pointless sine the BC's out ;D
[02:13] <toscan> when does the site will re open?
[02:13] <ravi_> fami: what?
[02:13] <fintler> Zs: don't ask to ask
[02:14] <ajeet> how to add keyboard shortcut to system monitor application?
[02:14] <FSGeofs> fami, sorry
[02:14] <Zs> ## ## End Default Options ##
[02:14] <Zs> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-28-386
[02:14] <Zs> root		(hd1,0)
[02:14] <Zs> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-28-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash
[02:14] <Zs> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-28-386
[02:14] <Zs> savedefault
[02:14] <Zs> boot
[02:14] <ajeet> pls help
[02:14] <fami> ravi_: no what
[02:14] <Zs> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-28-386 (recovery mode)
[02:14] <FSGeofs> my fault
[02:14] <Zs> root		(hd1,0)
[02:14] <Zs> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-28-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro single
[02:14] <harry> Can I update from edgy to feisty by downloading the .iso of an install cd and then use the cd?
[02:14] <fintler> *sigh*
[02:14] <delire> Zs: don't flood
[02:14] <jrib> Zs: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for long pastes, you will be unmuted shortly
[02:14] <ajeet> atleast what is the keyboard shortcut
[02:14] <ravi_> fami: do you know how I can check that I am not stuck in beta due to a delayed mirror ?
[02:14] <mc44> Seveas: ooh look we are 3rd! :) I dont think number two is even a real channel
[02:14] <fami> Zs: use pastebin
[02:14] <leagris> Zs don't paste here, use pastebin (see description)
[02:14] <taggie> larryone: .xsession-errors gets reset each time you login, so you may have to wait for it to hang, and then flip to a text console (alt-f1) and check out the error file.
[02:14] <fami> ravi_: join ubuntu party
[02:14] <delire> mc44: who's first?
[02:14] <ravi_> fami: I am in there
[02:14] <Phoenix_G> come on people 40 more users to break 1500
[02:14] <Seveas> mc44, WOOO
[02:15] <fami> ravi_: drink one or two or even three tea
[02:15] <mc44> delire: zuma
[02:15] <Phoenix_G> come back
[02:15] <ajeet> %C11how to add keyboard shortcut to system monitor application?
[02:15] <delire> mc44: have no idea what that is..
[02:15] <larryone> taggie: there's something there alright - something about gnome-panel
[02:15] <MarkCh> hi, i am using gaim, and autopounces nickserv and freenode connect at boot. is there a way to ignore nickserv and freenode-connect so that i am not bothered by their messages?
[02:16] <taggie> larryone, do you know how to use pastebin? if so, paste it in.
[02:16] <delire> MarkCh: see #gaim?
[02:16] <taggie> !paste
[02:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:16] <nomike> hi
[02:16] <MarkCh> thanks delire
[02:16] <jrib> Zs: you can talk again now, give everyone the url to your paste at the pastebin site
[02:16] <nomike> hi
[02:16] <fortitUs> hey er.. i have a question
[02:16] <larryone> taggie: I know how to use it - but not on a command line =0( if I log in to the graphical session I dont know how long it will last
[02:17] <nomike> anyone has a clue when feisty will be released?
[02:17] <fortitUs> does the desktop CD for ubuntu have an option to install straight and not go into Live CD?
[02:17] <larryone> I'll try log into graphical now
[02:17] <Phoenix_G> well tired of w8ing i will join later
[02:17] <taggie> larryone: okay, what does the error say approximately?
[02:17] <Zs> ## ## End Default Options ##  title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-28-386 root		(hd1,0) kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-28-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-28-386 savedefault boot  title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-28-386 (recovery mode) root		(hd1,0) kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-28-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro single initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-28-386 boot  title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-386 root		(hd1,0) kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/de
[02:17] <fintler> uh
[02:17] <hagabaka> has anyone else had problems with fglrx after upgrading from Edgy to Feisty?
[02:17] <fortitUs> uh ..?
[02:17] <fintler> Zs: like 50 people just told you not to do that
[02:18] <nizo> hi all
[02:18] <mc44> hagabaka: what problems?
[02:18] <nizo> i have a router in my netwrok
[02:18] <larryone_> ok
[02:18] <nizo> my question is how to make linux work as internet server
[02:18] <larryone_> graphical session kindof working
[02:19] <hagabaka> x crashes, in the end of Xorg.0.log there's a backtrace. see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/96652/comments/1 . i haven't posted my log, but it looks similar
[02:19] <larryone_> I'll quit the terminal session
[02:19] <larryone_> brb
[02:19] <gon4o> nizo, google: lamp
[02:19] <fintler> nizo: install the server iso with the lamp option
[02:19] <nizo> and what next fintler
[02:19] <nomike> nizo: You need to start a some service on yur machine, and then configure your router to forward the needed tcp-port to your host or use your host as the default host
[02:19] <fintler> ...profit?
[02:20] <deg0nz> NOW 3rd biggest chan in the world^^ http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/top100.php
[02:20] <larryone> ok
[02:20] <ravi_> for those trying to download iso from http or ftp, do apt-get install axel and then axel LINKTOTORRENT
[02:20] <laichzeit> all this waiting is getting a bit gay now..
[02:20] <ravi_> for those trying to download iso from http or ftp, do apt-get install axel and then axel LINKTOFILE*
[02:20] <fami> deg0nz: :O
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | laichzeit
[02:20] <ubotu> laichzeit: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:20] <fintler> deg0nz: does that count chans filled with botnets? ;)
[02:20] <nizo> what services i need
[02:20] <nizo> ?
[02:21] <delire> nizo: lamp == linux-apache-mysql-php. you don't need much to make Ubuntu a decent webserver, though i would go for a headless, X-less Debian machine myself.
[02:21] <Zs> Grub urgent!  Please!:(
[02:22] <taggie> nizo wants a nat router.
[02:22] <delire> taggie: oh, i see
[02:22] <nizo> like the router
[02:22] <taggie> yep
[02:22] <nizo> to make linux give internet to the client computers
[02:22] <nebbit> Anyone have success with a consistent Sync using Evolution to a TREO 650?
[02:22] <lilgg> Hello, if I use apt-get upgrade. will the kernel get upgraded aswell?
[02:22] <larryone> taggie, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16388/
[02:22] <NielsE> yes
[02:22] <nizo> using squid
[02:22] <delire> nizo: i'd use something like shorewall for that. a dedicated machine. i've never done this on Ubuntu.
[02:23] <Zs> Grub problem! Please!:(
[02:23] <delire> i have no experience with squid
[02:23] <delire> Zs: paste it in a pastebin.
[02:23] <Teres__> how do i play dvd files on my pc?
[02:23] <Zs> how?
[02:23] <fintler> Zs: read this http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[02:23] <nizo> from where can i get shorewall
[02:23] <larryone> taggie, that doesnt look like something that would intermittanly bring my x session and the whold system to a hang
[02:23] <fami> Teres__: press play
[02:23] <taggie> larryone, yeah, i wouldn't think so.
[02:23] <jrib> !dvd > Teres__    (Teres__, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:24] <nizo> its is a linux vesrion
[02:24] <Adam1213>  would the live cd version of the new release work with a resolution of 1024*786 on a dell 500m (knoppix did not) , it seams to have been a problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96673&highlight=500m has this been fixed?
[02:24] <delire> nizo: oops, before i meant smoothwall, not 'shorewall'. here's a start: http://www.skullbox.net/smoothwall.php
[02:24] <taggie> larryone, that looks like a pretty innocuous error
[02:24] <HYPOCRISY> Hello
[02:24] <nomike> refly
[02:24] <larryone> taggie, where alse can i check? /var/log/somethign?
[02:24] <HYPOCRISY> good
[02:25] <Zs> sorry
[02:25] <taggie> larryone, i don't think you're going to see anything until it actually hangs unfortunately
[02:25] <Zs> but can you all help me?
[02:25] <ajeet> pls help me
[02:25] <ajeet> how to add keyboard shortcut to system monitor application?
[02:26] <fintler> Adam1213: I know the 915resolution package is working amazingly well....not sure about the 855 one tho....I'm thinking that it might be the same people working on both
[02:26] <ajeet> or what is the keyboard shortcut
[02:26] <bimberi> Adam1213: the 7.04 beta works on my Dell Inspiron 500m at 1024x768
[02:26] <fintler> Adam1213: there's a good chance it's working
[02:26] <Adam1213>  nativly?
[02:26] <Adam1213>  did it work as soon as you installed / booted it?
[02:26] <nebbit> HELP Wireless keyboard, Need to see that the CAP LOCK is on, on the screen. Is there applet to do this?
[02:26] <bimberi> Adam1213: yep
[02:26] <tabasko> anyone have integraded s3 graphics?
[02:26] <fintler> on my hp nc6400 the 915 works natively
[02:26] <jrib> ajeet: use gconf-editor: Go to /apps/metacity.  Then create a command that runs gnome-system-monitor and then create a keybinding for it
[02:27] <Crazytom_> anyway i can get the topic using bitchx?  thanks
[02:27] <treylsu> anyone know if there is an advantage with upgrading using the dvd vs update manager
[02:27] <Amaranth> Crazytom_: /topic
[02:27] <jrib> Crazytom_: /topic
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> Crazytom_: /topic doesn't work?
[02:27] <fintler> Crazytom_: type /topic
[02:27] <Crazytom_> thanks
[02:27] <delire> Zs: i have no idea what your error is. please paste it in a pastebin
[02:27] <mjcocat> what will the dvd offer that the regular cd versions of feisty won't?
[02:27] <ajeet> thx jrib
[02:27] <Zs> some unknown problem on my GRUB
[02:27] <bimberi> Adam1213: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[02:27] <delire> Zs: that's not information.
[02:27] <delire> Zs: paste error output in a pastebin
[02:28] <jim2> .join #ubuntu-fr
[02:28] <Zs> how?
[02:28] <niran> i have a wireless interface using network-manager, and a wired interface that i want to have a static ip, but if i disable wireless from the n-m menu, i can't look up domain names, i can only ping addresses
[02:28] <niran> any idea how to fix that?
[02:28] <treylsu> is there a way to encrypt the whole kernel without reinstalling
[02:29] <Zs> delire: what is pastebin, how to use?
[02:29] <Seveas> ubotu, please tell Zs about pastebin
[02:29] <Seveas> ubotu, you goon
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you goon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <Seveas> !pastebin
[02:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:29] <delire> Zs: paste the output to http://pastebin.com and describe the error in the same page: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:29] <nicolah> how come here http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ I find three feisty-dvd-amd64.iso with different sizes ? thanks
[02:30] <VSpike> Can anyone tell me if you can connect Evolution to Google Calendar?
[02:30] <VSpike> I see it has CalDAV and webcal protocols ... not sure what they are or if they help
[02:30] <_P_i_R_A_N_i_A_> Hi, is 7.04 out yet?
[02:31] <Seveas> _P_i_R_A_N_i_A_, no
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> nicolah: Not here, read /topic
[02:31] <rambo3> how about now ?
[02:31] <_P_i_R_A_N_i_A_> that sucks :(
[02:32] <VSpike> rambo3: heh
[02:32] <nicolah> thanks tonyyarusso I thought that 7.04 was released
[02:32] <nicolah> (official released)
[02:34] <larryone> would this error cause my x session and my whole system to hang intermittently???:
[02:34] <larryone> ./Xorg.0.log:(EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)
[02:34] <nomike> could anyone tell me: is this the final release? http://spout.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.04/
[02:34] <hagabaka> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/85907 does anyone know if the no longer supported cards include Radeon 9800 Pro?
[02:34] <PriceChild> nomike, /topic
[02:34] <larryone> nomike, go to #ubuntu-release-party
[02:35] <nomike> larryone: thx
[02:35] <Feisty_Tumnus> shh
[02:36] <Zs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16390/
[02:36] <larryone> can anyone help me with my hanging xserver???
[02:36] <larryone> ./Xorg.0.log:(EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)
[02:36] <moo^min> any 7.04 torrents out yet?
[02:36] <Zs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16390/plain/
[02:37] <flodine> is there a problem with ubuntu home site
[02:37] <richw> Final feisty? http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[02:37] <Woody_> flodine, yes
[02:37] <IdleOne> flodine: probably down from all the hits it's getting
[02:37] <Zs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16390/
[02:39] <Zs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16390/
[02:39] <delire> Zs: and what's the problem. what doesn't work?
[02:39] <mjcocat> 6cmy torrent is now worling!!!!
[02:39] <ZombiekE> hello guys, I would like to make a clean install instead of the upgrade so I was thinking of formatting and installing feisty again, but what folders should I back up besides home, so that my programs keep their configuration? (especially F-Spot with all its tags and stuff)
[02:39] <Zs> nope, but is it normal?
[02:39] <larryone> Zs do you have boot probs
[02:40] <Zs> it scared me!
[02:40] <jrib> ZombiekE: /home and /etc should have all of your settings, then just clone your package list:
[02:40] <jrib> !cloning | ZombiekE
[02:40] <ubotu> ZombiekE: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" - See also !automate
[02:40] <delire> Zs: that's fine. you have two new kernels when you upgraded, so they were added to grub's menu.lst
[02:40] <[H] 3b0R> anyone know about any gui to handle startup scripts?
[02:40] <Zs> should i delete the old ones?
[02:41] <finn__> in how many hours will ubuntu be released?
[02:41] <finn__> oh sorry, didn't see the topic
[02:41] <jrib> [H] 3b0R: system > administration > services
[02:41] <delire> Zs: each time a new kernel is installed, a new entry will be made in that list. if you don't want the old ones in there, you can remove them, but be very careful and be sure to back up your /boot/grub/menu.1st first.
[02:41] <ZombiekE> !automate
[02:41] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[02:41] <Adam1213> Finn__  how many hours does it take to visit http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[02:42] <Adam1213> because that's how long
[02:42] <[H] 3b0R> jrib: that gui doesnt give me the ability to decide if mpd for example should start up when i boot ubuntu
[02:42] <finn__> it already is?
[02:42] <Zs> thank you! but is it just deleting the lines?
[02:42] <Teres_> i have a riped dvd on my computer and i need to play the video_ts.ifo file. how can i play it?
[02:42] <finn__> thank you
[02:42] <delire> Zs: i would leave what you have there alone. that's not a long list. on my current (Debian) machine i have about 15 kernels.
[02:42] <orbin> Zs: yes, i'd leave them.  never know whe you may need to boot into an old kernel if the new one has issues.
[02:43] <Zs> so is it IT?
[02:43] <seldon> wow... is the ubuntu website very overloaded, or is it just me?
[02:43] <delire> Zs: yes all you need to do is delete the lines. remember that for each new kernel added, there is a 'recovery' entry added. you only really have 2 kernels there! that's fine. leave it.
[02:43] <Adam1213> very overloaded
[02:43] <Teres_> can any1 help me?
[02:43] <Daverocks> seldon: nah, it's getting slammed at the moment
[02:43] <topato> should connecting to WPA protected WLANs work out of the box in Ubuntu 6x?
[02:43] <Zs> does it means we should just left it that way?
[02:43] <roland_> hi, my ubuntu 6.10 suddenly started breaking down , i cant use windows shares anymore (i used them fine before) and i cant install samba on it because it fails with read-only fs and some other errors
[02:43] <delire> Teres_: who knows. ask the question!
[02:43] <roland_> and the gnome window hangs
[02:43] <Teres_>  i have a riped dvd on my computer and i need to play the video_ts.ifo file. how can i play it?
[02:44] <roland_> also firefox crashes
[02:44] <delire> Teres_: sorry, wrong nick.
[02:44] <roland_> and power manager crashes
[02:44] <Adam1213> is the reason http://www.ubuntu.com/ does not link to http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ because it is being mirrored currently or just not updated yet?
[02:44] <seldon> Adam1213, not a bad sign...must be a very popular download
[02:44] <invisiblepinkuni> just 7 more members to make it 1500 users
[02:44] <Zs> does it means we should just left it that way?
[02:44] <ZombiekE_> thanks jrib, my problem is also that the directory etc has some configurations that are the reason why I want to reinstall linux from scratch :s
[02:44] <jrib> [H] 3b0R: hmm only other gui one I know of is "bum", you could give that a try
[02:44] <Teres_> !dvd
[02:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:45] <jrib> ZombiekE_: ah ok, then just don't copy /etc I guess
[02:45] <delire> Teres_: normally you rip and encode. anyway, isn't 'ifo' just some sort of palette file?
[02:45] <seldon> is 7.04 up yet?
[02:45] <_P_i_R_A_N_i_A_> apokryphos, plz inban me from #ubuntu release party
[02:45] <delire> Teres_: the data is in the *.vob
[02:45] <_P_i_R_A_N_i_A_> unbab ;)
[02:45] <Adam1213> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[02:45] <topato> should connecting to WPA protected WLANs work out of the box in Ubuntu 6.10, or do I haveto install wpa-supplicant or anything?
[02:45] <_P_i_R_A_N_i_A_> no
[02:45] <Zs> thank you! byebye!
[02:45] <delire> ZombiekE_: just leave it yes.
[02:45] <apokryphos> _P_i_R_A_N_i_A_: please choose a less annoying name; it's long, large, and spammy
[02:45] <seldon> 2 more....
[02:45] <seldon> almost 1500
[02:45] <apokryphos> _P_i_R_A_N_i_A_: also, appeal in #ubuntu-ops
[02:45] <ZombiekE_> yes, but the problem is... if I dont copy etc will I keep all my f-spot tags? :)
[02:45] <roland_> when i start Shared Folder util nothing happens
[02:46] <roo7> say hello to everyone , It is my first time to login here
[02:46] <pommie_> 1495  :)
[02:46] <ZombiekE_> that is actually the thing I care most about keeping my settings, I don't care about the rest :)
[02:46] <jrib> [H] 3b0R: and if that doesn't work, then I suggest using sysv-rc-conf.  It's not gui, but it does use ncurses
[02:46] <delire> hi roo7
[02:46] <fortitUs> http://ftp.science.nus.edu.sg/linux/ubuntu-ISO/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/
[02:46] <seldon> ah,.. almost there
[02:46] <fortitUs> rofl
[02:46] <fortitUs> xD
[02:46] <lancaster> O_o
[02:46] <SpiritDragoon> .....
[02:46] <Teres_> theres 5 vob files. they r the movie but on my old windows machine i could use power dvd open the ifo file and it comes up with the menu and everything
[02:46] <SpiritDragoon> are we there yet?
[02:46] <seldon> no one leave so we can hit 1500
[02:46] <Adam1213> so my isp is not the only one to allow the /releases heaps of times and still get the same thing
[02:46] <seldon> ;-)
[02:47] <Adam1213> and my isp also has the http://ftp
[02:47] <roland_> my ubuntu is fucked
[02:47] <entilzha> I guess I'm not the only one coming here wondering when the release will be?
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | roland_
[02:47] <ubotu> roland_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:47] <Adam1213> http://ftp.iinet.net.au/linux/ubuntu-cd-images/releases/releases/releases/ .....
[02:47] <hgilibert> yo
[02:47] <invisiblepinkuni> just 3 more users to 1500
[02:47] <delire> Teres_: if i were you i'd look at dvdauthor or something to make it into a single DVD image and burn it off. what you have isn't meant to be on a hard disk.
[02:47] <predaeus> Adam1213, that must suck if your ISP is modifying tcp packages.
[02:48] <vimalg2> can5 to go
[02:48] <Adam1213> ?
[02:48] <Adam1213> no they are not
[02:48] <seldon> so close to 1500
[02:48] <Adam1213> that's just their download server
[02:48] <predaeus> oh, now I am violating the language rule myself, probably.
[02:48] <whatspy> how can I send the F10 key through a terminal ?
[02:48] <seldon> most ever users in this channel
[02:48] <invisiblepinkuni> i was here when ubuntu touched 1000
[02:48] <Adam1213> they put stuff everywhere so you cant miss it if you want to find it
[02:48] <invisiblepinkuni> i think it was during dapper release
[02:48] <ZombiekE_> jrib, will I keep my f-spot album tags if I don't back up etc? that's the only settings I care about in my computer right now :)
[02:48] <coz_> good thing for you support guys that all 1493 logged on are not asking questions:)
[02:48] <invisiblepinkuni> come on.... just 3 more
[02:49] <ActiveOne> !feisty
[02:49] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn
[02:49] <seldon> now everyone ask a question
[02:49] <axisys> is fiesty out?
[02:49] <Adam1213> why???
[02:49] <strohi> that would be 'special' :)
[02:49] <coz_> seldon, lol
[02:49] <Adam1213> should i ask another
[02:49] <delire> Teres_: http://dvdauthorwizard.sourceforge.net/view.php/page/Voorpagina
[02:49] <The_Jack_of_Club> release the damn thing already!
[02:49] <invisiblepinkuni> yes yes yes.... mmmmmmmmm
[02:49] <jrib> ZombiekE_: yes, you should.  Anything that you do without using sudo, HAS to go to your HOME :)
[02:49] <invisiblepinkuni> 1500 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:49] <Ankur> 1500
[02:49] <seldon> 'join #ubuntu-release-party
[02:49] <ZombiekE_> okay! thank you very much jrib! :)
[02:49] <The_Jack_of_Club> whoots
[02:49] <coz_> OK  EVERYON 1...2....3  ASK A QUESTION
[02:49] <jd> hi all
[02:49] <sepelester> hey, anyone know how to set up kernel module dependencies?  I get the wrong nvidia module loaded (from /lib/modules instead of /lib/linux-restricted-modules)
[02:49] <Feisty_Tumnus> coz_: why?
[02:50] <delire> Teres_: maybe mplayer might have a solution for you though. just try 'mplayer /path/to/the/dir/with/the/ifo'
[02:50] <coz_> Feisty_Tumnus, just want to see nearly 1500 question s fly by :)
[02:50] <Feisty_Tumnus> coz_: no, "why?" was my question :)
[02:50] <nunofgs> topic says feisty isn't out yet ?
[02:50] <Amaranth> nunofgs: it's not
[02:50] <coz_> Feisty_Tumnus, lol oh sorry
[02:51] <delire> sepelester: remove the wrong module, load the good module and try 'sudo depmod -ae'. then reboot.
[02:51] <void^> sepelester: there are unlinked modules in /lib/linux-restricted-modules/ only. those are linked upon boot into /lib/modules/.../volatile.
[02:51] <tonyyarusso> nunofgs: #ubuntu-release-party to follow that.
[02:51] <predaeus> whatspy, what do you mean by sending the key through a terminal?
[02:51] <coz_> Feisty_Tumnus, that went completely over my hed :)
[02:51] <jenda> magicrobotmonkey: you win the 1500th visitor award!
[02:51] <void^> sepelester: fishy way to get around possible gpl violations.
[02:51] <frandavid100> hi
[02:51] <jenda> magicrobotmonkey: maybe not, but I thought so ;)
[02:51] <frandavid100> I guess feisty is not out yet right?
[02:51] <Amaranth> Right.
[02:51] <Adam1213>  a net split would spam the channel so much if it happened now
[02:51] <TheDeadMan> haha
[02:51] <Seveas> frandavid100, you guess right :)
[02:51] <ActiveOne> frandavid100, see /topic
[02:51] <whatspy> predaeus: the terminal does not "digest" the keypress, it is interpreted locally. to be more precise, I'm using midnight commander through an ssh session and the F10 key would normally close it...
[02:52] <frandavid100> thanks Amaranth
[02:52] <harrisony> Adam1213: yeah!
[02:52] <Marz`> ciao
[02:52] <Adam1213>  its +t (only ops can set the topic)
[02:52] <nunofgs> how will I upgrade from edgy? just update-manager -c ? right now it doesnt show any new packages... will it show them once feisty is released?
[02:52] <inimesekene> frandavid100, it's out :)
[02:52] <Amaranth> Ubuntu 7.04 is not yet out. Please don't ask when it'll be released, we don't know either.
[02:52] <coz_> Marz`, are you leaving?
[02:52] <ActiveOne> Adam1213, please dont give links to the release until it is actualy  released
[02:52] <Slart> whatspy: I had to shut off shortcuts in the terminal application
[02:52] <inimesekene> frandavid100, i think, on digg they say it is
[02:53] <mellow_bunny_> seriously
[02:53] <Adam1213> i thought it was the proper release
[02:53] <mellow_bunny_> you believe digg but tnot the support channel?
[02:53] <predaeus> whatspy, ah, do you run something like xterm, gnome-terminal or are you in a terminal without using X? probably try a clean terminal that does not run inside an X application.
[02:54] <Marz`> coz_, ?
[02:54] <Woody_> 1500!
[02:54] <sinppa_> quite a lot of people... :)
[02:54] <whatspy> ah I just found out: F10 is "eaten" by the terminal window only when the menubar is shown...
[02:54] <predaeus> whatspy, probably the terminal emulator application catches the key press like you said yea. so you might have to config that if possible
[02:54] <harrisony> Woo 1600 mark\
[02:54] <coz_> Marz   ciao generally is used to say goodbye not hello
[02:54] <knix_> When does the ball drop?
[02:54] <Seveas> 1500 :)
[02:54] <coz_> Marz so I thought you were leaving
[02:54] <whatspy> predaeus: yes, you were right
[02:54] <IdleOne> knix, /topix
[02:54] <IdleOne> knix, /topic
[02:55] <Marz`> coz_, ciao is hello in italy
[02:55] <sepelester> delire, void: I ran depmod -ae, and it looks like it worked, but now I'm back to my original problem: "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia".
[02:55] <Marz`> _
[02:55] <predaeus> actually ciao is also a greeting in italian IIRC.
[02:55] <mnoir> coz_ - that is only by ppl who do not speal Italian and are trying not to be lame
[02:55] <mnoir> speal=speak
[02:55] <coz_> Marz`, are you in italy now
[02:55] <IdleOne> predaeus, it means good bye or see you later
[02:55] <harrisony> YAY 1500 PEOPLE!
[02:55] <Marz`> coz_, i'm italian
[02:55] <coz_> mnoir, well i am italian
[02:55] <Stump138> lol
[02:56] <mellow_bunny_> i like pizza
[02:56] <harrisony> NO GET 1 PERSON!
[02:56] <Slart> how can I hide joins/parts from a channel in xchat-gnome?
[02:56] <mnoir> :) - ok - so I am lame
[02:56] <coz_> Marz`, ok been a long time since I have been home   I am from Sulmona    where areyou from?
[02:56] <Amaranth> Notice: Offtopic conversations will not be tolerated at all today
[02:56] <harrisony> i got a screenie of 1500
[02:56] <Amaranth> We're going to be _way_ too busy
[02:56] <mnoir> sticking to 6.06 as well :)
[02:56] <predaeus> actually this is totally offtopic but: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ciao
[02:56] <IdleOne> Slart, look in the prefs for xchat
[02:56] <harrisony> Amaranth: sorry! was a tad to WOOED up!
[02:56] <Marz`> i live in bari
[02:56] <Slart> IdleOne: xchat-gnome.. not xchat
[02:56] <apokryphos> ubotu: offtopic
[02:56] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:57] <IdleOne> Slart, it would also be in the prefs
[02:57] <coz_> well just thought I would stop in to see the numbers here
[02:57] <Slart> IdleOne: ok.. I'll check again.. but I don't think I missed it the last time
[02:57] <nunofgs> soooo...
[02:57] <nunofgs> anyone care to answer my q?
[02:57] <IdleOne> ask it
[02:57] <nunofgs> how will I upgrade from edgy? just update-manager -c ? right now it doesnt show any new packages... will it show them once feisty is released?
[02:57] <nasso> is there any easy way of seeing what version of ubuntu you have installed?
[02:58] <nunofgs> I had already :P
[02:58] <sumimasen> DCC CHAT "why_hello_there_pipe_broken"
[02:58] <fintler> nunofgs: isn't it upgrade-manager -d
[02:58] <IdleOne> !upgrade > nunofgs
[02:58] <fintler> ?
[02:58] <asdfjkloe> what's up with 7.04?
[02:58] <hagabaka> isn't it possible to search for a bug in *any* project with some text in its description?
[02:58] <harrisony> nunofgs: it aint out yet but that is the command
[02:58] <gordonjcp> is there going to be a new version of Ubuntu soon?
[02:58] <wscott> key sig not valid for edgy-security?  Is that just me?
[02:58] <harrisony> asdfjkloe: be patient
[02:58] <hagabaka> (on launchpad)
[02:58] <nunofgs> ah ok, ty
[02:58] <Slart> nasso: uname -a will show you some info.. lsb_release will tell you some other info
[02:58] <Seveas> gordonjcp, within hours
[02:58] <gordonjcp> Seveas: ah, is that feisty?
[02:58] <Seveas> gordonjcp, yes
[02:58] <harrisony> gordonjcp: today-next few days
[02:59] <asdfjkloe> harrisony: cant see my windows anymore.. ^^
[02:59] <nasso> Slart: ok, thx
[02:59] <gordonjcp> Seveas: mmm, newer than that then...
[02:59] <harrisony> #ubuntu-release-party
[02:59] <JuJuBee> How do I make a shell script run at boot up?
[02:59] <Slart> nasso: you might have to use some options with lsb_release.. but you'll figure it out
[02:59] <Awperator> !topic
[02:59] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[02:59] <gordonjcp> Seveas: or will the real release version of feisty have up-to-date audio packages?
[02:59] <Zorlin> Apokryphos: What was the kick for before?
[02:59] <Feisty_Tumnus> jujubee: I usually stick it in /etc/rc.local
[02:59] <fintler> JuJuBee: take a look at the files in /etc/init.d
[02:59] <The_Jack_of_Club> stop randomly banning people
[02:59] <hagabaka> that's a lot of kicks and bans...
[02:59] <Woody_> how much times does it take you to turn off/boot Ubuntu?
[03:00] <wscott> example http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16392/
[03:00] <Seveas> The_Jack_of_Club, people aren't randomly banned
[03:00] <harrisony> The_Jack_of_Club: there ops, they do what theywant
[03:00] <The_Jack_of_Club> perhapts but im not paying attention ^_^
[03:00] <PriceChild> harrisony, we follow guidelines
[03:00] <Zorlin> The_Jack_of_Club: + they probably had a reason
[03:00] <Amaranth> Woody_: On my machine it turns off in about 10-15 seconds and turns on (to a login screen) in about 35 seconds
[03:00] <Woody_> thanks Amaranth
[03:00] <harrisony> PriceChild: yeah, but you can still whip us all! when you want too
[03:01] <Amaranth> Woody_: But this is a core duo with a fairly fast HD
[03:01] <der0b> morning folks, what's the "best" way to find what provides libpthread.so.0?
[03:01] <rambo3> der0b, search pthread dev
[03:01] <IdleOne> can I get a +v in -party?
[03:01] <Rei-chan> No.
[03:01] <bushwakko> hi, how do I install and set java 1.4 as default on ubuntu edgy? I have 1.5 installed
[03:01] <Slart> der0b: I'd go for google.... or packages.debian.org or the ubuntu equivalant
[03:02] <joeljkp> woo, so is today ubuntu day?
[03:02] <Rei-chan> IdleOne: Nor should you use the support channel to ask.
[03:02] <Woody_> Amaranth: yeah, mine is a one core CPU with almost the same time as yours
[03:02] <rambo3> !info libpthread20
[03:02] <ubotu> libpthread20: The GNU Portable Threads (pthread emulation). In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.7-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 77 kB, installed size 192 kB
[03:02] <leagris> der0b, I use apt-file for searching specific files in not yet installed packages
[03:02] <albert> harrisony, the moon could just fall onto the earth if he wanted to...no wait..just kidding
[03:02] <Zorlin> Hmmm
[03:02] <JuJuBee> K, looked at some of the files in /etc/init.d... tehy look more advanced in programming than I am.
[03:02] <der0b> Thanks all..  leagris that's the route I was looking for, thanks :)
[03:03] <IdleOne> Rei-chan, was a joke relax.. besides there is much support going on here right now anyway
[03:03] <JuJuBee> I have a shell script that sets up iptables and want to run it at startup.
[03:03] <edmondt> Feisty out yet? (just woke up)
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> edmondt: read the /topic, go to #ubuntu-release-party
[03:04] <Zorlin> Edmondt: The iso is available, but its most likely not the final build as they havent released information yet and/or announced it
[03:04] <Slart> edmondt: read the topic yet? =)
[03:04] <edmondt> right.... good thing I slept instead of waiting all night :P
[03:04] <Teres_> how can i install the libdvdcss
[03:05] <ghaaly> hello folks
[03:05] <jonathan__> hi
[03:05] <Teres_> i downloaded it but dont know wat 2 do?
[03:05] <delire> JuJuBee: add it to the init scripts.
[03:05] <ghaaly> Is there a substitution for frontpage in ubuntu ?
[03:05] <Woody_> whats the difference between edubuntu, kubuntu, and ubuntu?
[03:05] <Pelo> Teres_,  synaptic
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> !libdvdcss | Teres_
[03:05] <ubotu> Teres_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:05] <larryone> !?
[03:05] <larryone> !help
[03:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:05] <ghaaly> ??
[03:05] <Pelo> Teres_,   ..deb file just click on it a few times
[03:05] <jonathan__> hola
[03:05] <ghaaly> I need to use frontpage under linux ?
[03:06] <ghaaly> Is there a frontpage in linux or a replacement ?
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> ghaaly: Wine may be able to do it
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> ghaaly: Nvu is also nice
[03:06] <Slart> ghaaly: nvu is one option
[03:06] <delire> Teres_: don't download it manually.. that's what people on those _other_ OS's do :) read the above desktop guide and use synaptic to install it. you don't have to do anything more than that!
[03:06] <larryone> ghaaly, you can run it with wine - but yer better off running something else insteasd
[03:06] <Edward> hmmm...nvu?
[03:06] <Pelo> ghaaly,   run it under wine or look for an alternate on http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[03:06] <jonathan__> alguien habla espanol
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> !es | jonathan__
[03:06] <ubotu> jonathan__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:06] <Zorlin> !launch
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about launch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <Zorlin> huh? What room is the party in again?
[03:06] <jonathan__> grasias
[03:06] <Teres_> synaptic sent me elsewhere...they its not there
[03:07] <Amaranth> Ubuntu 7.04 is not yet out. Please don't ask when it'll be released, we don't know either.
[03:07] <delire> ghaaly: use Nvu or bluefish or quanta
[03:07] <saturn04> Hi! I want to know, when 7.04 will be released? It's 17:06 but the official site still hadn't been updated
[03:07] <Amaranth> Zorlin: /topic
[03:07] <skiingdomo> hi guys. fresh install of 7.04 w/ winxp on the first partition. says that "superblock last mount/write time is in the future" FIXED. then forces a scan/check, which fails and restarts. Doing it a second time. anyone know why? first boot up.
[03:07] <Amaranth> saturn04: Ubuntu 7.04 is not yet out. Please don't ask when it'll be released, we don't know either.
[03:07] <delire> ghaaly: mozilla-composer is also pretty ok.
[03:07] <Pelo> Teres_,  wha is the ending fo the file you downloaded
[03:07] <Teres_> tar.gx
[03:07] <delire> Pelo: he should just use apt, not stuff from elsewhere.
[03:07] <Adam1213> can i at least ask what is currently remaining to be done before the release
[03:07] <Amaranth> skiingdomo: weird clock skew?
[03:07] <ghaaly> delire, quanta is an HTML editor
[03:07] <Amaranth> Adam1213: Mirror the hell out of it
[03:07] <mellow_bunny_> !ubuntu+1
[03:07] <delire> Teres_: it's already in Ubuntu, you don't need to download stuff from websites.
[03:07] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn
[03:07] <tonyyarusso> Adam1213: You can ask, in #ubuntu-release-party, but the people who know are likely to busy to answer.
[03:07] <ghaaly> delire, I need a GUI interface
[03:08] <Slart> Adam1213: if we knew that we would probably be doing it instead of hanging around here =)
[03:08] <Hidan> yo Pelo :)
[03:08] <skiingdomo> hmm weird. 3rd reboot it passed. no worries
[03:08] <delire> ghaaly: Nvu or mozilla composer is best for you then.
[03:08] <orbin> planning on doing a feisty install from scratch.  can i reuse my edgy /home partition though? or is it wiser to do configs all over?
[03:08] <Wikzo> Is 7.04 out yet? Ubuntu.com won't load
[03:08] <Pelo> !dvd | Teres_    get your dvd suppor follow these instrutions
[03:08] <Teres_> i cant find it in synaptic though
[03:08] <_max_> since ubuntu doesn't write "hoard-5" etc in filenames, how the heck do i know that the image im downloaded is the final release and not a beta?
[03:08] <Pelo> Hidan,  what ?
[03:08] <ubotu> Teres_    get your dvd suppor follow these instrutions: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:08] <schueler> hello
[03:08] <Adam1213> ironically tonyyarusso i cant ask in their because of you
[03:08] <Hidan> pelo : oh just wanted to say thank you for helping me a few weeks ago.
[03:08] <schueler> pleas someone peak to e
[03:09] <hipertracker> anybody knows if beryl will be added to ubuntu 7.0.4?
[03:09] <schueler> mmeee
[03:09] <Slart> _max_: check the file date... might give you some clue
[03:09] <delire> Teres_: you just need to enable the correct repository reading what ubotu says. a few clicks later you're done.
[03:09] <Teres_> i must install a new repository?
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> Adam1213: funny how that works.
[03:09] <Pelo> Hidan,   a little late   but you welcome
[03:09] <asdfjkloe> ubuntu 7.04 ~700mb Kubuntu 6.06.1 3.5 GB ... why?
[03:09] <sivaji> dpkg error ple help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16393/
[03:09] <schueler> i love you
[03:09] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso, lmao
[03:09] <Teres_> but i went there prob is im using fiesty and fiesty is not there
[03:09] <bushwakko> anyone know how to install java 1.4 on edgy ?
[03:09] <Adam1213> literally you silenced me
[03:09] <Hidan> Pelo : oh 'cos i didn't see you online later... I think different timezones.
[03:09] <Pelo> Teres_,   #ubuntu+1 for fiesty help
[03:09] <Hairulfr> asdfjkloe: Hehe, because of KDE?
[03:09] <Nalleman> anyone here knows why my webtv is extremly bright?
[03:10] <_max_> bushwakko: go to sun, download the one you want, then sudo sh java-1.4.2.bin
[03:10] <Pelo> Hidan,  probably,  I'm not here at this hour usualy I just came in to check on the release
[03:10] <delire> Teres_: it probably applies to feisty as well, not sure. i don't use Beta releases.
[03:10] <delire> Teres_: try #ubuntu+1
[03:10] <Hidan> Pelo: ahhh :) Okay. :)
[03:10] <Teres_> thnx
[03:10] <Pelo> yeah,  anyway  i'm off
[03:10] <delire> Teres_: np. let me know how you go.
[03:11] <tex__> Hi I'm waiting for the 7.04 release but the Ubuntu site is down :(
[03:11] <Adam1213> is there anyway to try to work out if any sites are starting to mirror the release and if a specific site is beginging to mirror it
[03:11] <tex__> what's happened?
[03:11] <delire> tex__: yes it's being hammered by too many visits.
[03:11] <aa^way> hello, going to develop some PHP, any webservers in linux? like i could install
[03:11] <zorglu_>  i got a kubuntu edgy and his got this 'lets show only part of the root file' i know there is a page about it but i dont remember the name of it, any hint ?
[03:11] <kambei> Can anyone recommend a system monitor (similar to conky) that runs within a terminal?
[03:11] <tonyyarusso> Adam1213: we'll tell you, in -release-party
[03:11] <Slart> tex__: yes.. because everyone is sitting at the desks, refreshing their browsers..
[03:11] <Adam1213> you could try apache
[03:11] <Teres_> sure
[03:11] <tex__> so drupal crashed?
[03:11] <saturn04> OK! But I've  got one more question: when I pressing "turn off the computer" it unloading system and does nothing (neither turning off nor restarting) and in the recoverty mode after pressing the button "turn off..." it does the same as in the first time and writting "system halted"
[03:11] <michaelpo> is feisty released?
[03:11] <mneptok> no
[03:11] <NickGarvey> michaelpo: yeah
[03:11] <Slart> michelson: read topic
[03:12] <Slart> oops
[03:12] <michelson> heh
[03:12] <NickGarvey> no you guys, it is..
[03:12] <Stump138> aa^way setting up a LAMP server is really easy and there are instructions all over the internet as to how you can get one going.
[03:12] <NickGarvey> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[03:12] <Slart> michaelpo: read the topic
[03:12] <ShappaShaz> I come to say hello, congrats, and all that good stuff about Feisty.
[03:12] <GaiaX11> give us netsplit please!
[03:12] <Adam1213> as i said before ironically you suggest to ask in #ubuntu-release-party when i cant because of you
[03:12] <aa^way> LAMP, sounds weird but eh ill check it
[03:12] <ShappaShaz> bye
[03:12] <michelson> exit
[03:12] <Adam1213> can you at least suggest alternatives to that lol
[03:12] <tonyyarusso> Adam1213: You can watch the /topic there.
[03:12] <NickGarvey> was I kicked?
[03:12] <Ubuntu_Feisty704> I have arrived.
[03:13] <NickGarvey> using irssi so.. not really sure
[03:13] <tex__> in my office there are 4 people waiting for Feisty to finally switch from Windows
[03:13] <Stump138> aa^way just search for LAMP in ubuntu, you can have one up in going in no time :)
[03:13] <aa^way> cool
[03:13] <tex__> Ubuntu is getting mainstream
[03:14] <_max_> tex__ we run 300+ dev stations with ubuntu
[03:14] <delire> aa^way: lamp == Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> !lamp
[03:14] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:14] <spastii> china .7.04 is not release....
[03:14] <aa^way> oh delire good
[03:14] <tex__> we have suspended work waiting for feisty
[03:14] <Hobbsee> tex__: see the /topic
[03:15] <tex__> it's release party in our office
[03:15] <sjoeboo> hmm, is 7.04 technically out? its on teh releases page(s)....
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> sjoeboo: read the /topic and go to #ubuntu-release-party, not here
[03:16] <b0ng0> hey does anyone know if the feisty on releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ is the final?
[03:16] <Adam1213> apparently its not
[03:17] <richw> b0ng0: yes
[03:17] <richw> It is
[03:17] <Adam1213> is it
[03:17] <b0ng0> cause i have the iso but its just not been updated on the main pagfe
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> b0ng0: Read the /topic, not here.
[03:17] <virdiq> q: how many people are normally in this channel when there isn't a new release?
[03:17] <leagris> does anyone know why nearly nobody read the topic? ;D
[03:17] <richw> its uploaded to site but not released
[03:17] <ghaaly> Is there something for frontpage substitution it can be downloaded using the apt-get handler system
[03:17] <IdleOne> virdiq, anywhere from 700 to 1000
[03:17] <Hairulfr> virdiq: 900-1000 I think
[03:17] <plb> damn over 1500 people in here
[03:17] <b0ng0> topic isnt in a very obvious place ;)
[03:17] <Slart> ghaaly: nvu again =)
[03:17] <b0ng0> should be in big RED LETTERS
[03:17] <ghaaly> sudo apt-get install nuv > doesn't work
[03:17] <Slart> ghaaly: nvu
[03:18] <Adam1213> so is the torrent the final and the site not the final?
[03:18] <ghaaly> Slart, doesn't work with apt-get
[03:18] <zbrown> In regards to Feisty's release, if I have Feisty beta installed, will I need to update any repositories in order to get the full upgrades or will it just be automatic via the update manager?
[03:18] <IdleOne> !komposer
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about komposer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <Slart> !nvu
[03:18] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but ping tonyyarusso to inquire about packages.  See also !html.
[03:18] <Bokeh> zbrown: should work automatically
[03:18] <zbrown> Bokeh: ok thats what I thought, just wanted to make sure.
[03:18] <IdleOne> ghaaly, ask tonyyarusso  about nvu
[03:18] <Slart> ghaaly: I see it here.. nvu and nvu-dev
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> ghaaly: I'll be building Feisty packages soon - hoping for a new version from the bugfix dev any day now.
[03:18] <aa^way> k
[03:19] <spastii> :-*
[03:19] <aa^way> Lamp download in progress
[03:19] <aa^way> 98mb =)
[03:19] <aa^way> why so much
[03:19] <leagris> is anyone doing obsolete package cleanup? There are still old and unused packages provided like the 3ddesktop.
[03:19] <virdiq> thanks idleone/hairulfr
[03:19] <atomiku> hmm
[03:19] <saturn04> How can I become a channel operator?
[03:19] <Ubuntu_Feisty704> Ubuntu Vista
[03:19] <Slart> aa^way: many big programs..
[03:19] <jlintz> "How can I become a channel operator?" HA
[03:19] <IdleOne> saturn04, by not asking how
[03:19] <atomiku> How can I get ubuntu to auto mount home to /dev/hdax?
[03:19] <Amaranth> zbrown: automatic
[03:19] <ypSami> yeyeyeyey! Fiesty's installing =D
[03:19] <felixhummel> i have a little dovecot imap server at home and thought about adding a spam filter. can you give me some pointers?
[03:19] <klm-> how come this channel isn't flooded more than it is? are we just 1500 so organized people
[03:19] <aa^way> well wow, it was 17MB in linux, all things, phpMyADmin ( more mysql managers ) and stuff like that
[03:20] <Slart> atomiku: check /etc/fstab
[03:20] <atomiku> Slart: yeah, I couldnt figure out what to add
[03:20] <leagris> saturn04, grow log hairs and bird, then pray the big Tux fluffy evry 42 hours.
[03:21] <Hairulfr> aa^way: People are scattered over ubuntu+1 and release party. Maybe that's why...
[03:21] <atomiku> Slart: any ideas?
[03:21] <Slart> atomiku: just add another line.. I don't know the syntax by heart.. you can always look at man fstab
[03:21] <jfp> hola
[03:21] <rack> feisty is released?
[03:21] <atomiku> Slart: Okay thanks :)
[03:21] <jfp> hi
[03:21] <Slart> atomiku: you have some lines in there already, don't you? just copy paste one of them
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> rack: read the /topic, not in here
[03:21] <jfp> hello
[03:21] <PriceChild> rack, /topic
[03:21] <atomiku> Slart: hmm
[03:21] <Ubuntu_Feisty704> It's released, it's all over irc.canonical.net
[03:21] <USMarine> site downb?
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> Ubuntu_Feisty704: we'll say when it is.  You won't.
[03:22] <Slart> atomiku: ok, I'm looking at my setup now.. the drive.. is it ext2? ext3? reiser?
[03:22] <BrokenLinux> Anyone know if there's a 2.0 thunderbird deb package?
[03:22] <atomiku> btw
[03:22] <atomiku> ext3
[03:22] <atomiku> also how do I upgrade to ubuntu 7? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade isnt it?
[03:22] <USMarine> !upgrade
[03:22] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:22] <StFS> congratulations on the new release :D
[03:23] <fintler> hmm...my trac server broke on the upgrade...looks like it didn't upgrade the db from sqlite2 to sqlite3
[03:23] <atomiku> Thanks USMarine
[03:23] <Slart> atomiku: here is a line from my fstab                   /dev/sdb1    /media/sdb1     ext3	defaults		0	1
[03:23] <tonyyarusso> BrokenLinux: If not https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion should work
[03:23] <atomiku> Thanks Slart :)
[03:23] <BrokenLinux> tonyyarusso: thanks
[03:23] <PriceChild> atomiku, not released yet
[03:23] <StFS> have there been any problem reports with upgrading from 6.10?
[03:24] <Slart> atomiku: first thing is the device name of the drive.. next is the mountpoint, next is filesystem.. then there are some options and the numbers are about file system checks and something else I forgot right now..you can probably use the values that are there
[03:24] <atomiku> Not released yet?
[03:24] <atomiku> hmm
[03:24] <fintler> StFS: I upgraded from edgy with only one very minor problem
[03:24] <richw> Why dont ubotu have standard replies for frequent feisty questions here?
[03:24] <atomiku> Thanks Slart :)#
[03:24] <zenlinuxNH> Here are some photos from a Feisty release party at work: http://photos.zenlinux.com/ubuntufesityparty
[03:24] <Jerry> noob here know where i can get Xfi drivers , does linux use drivers
[03:24] <zenlinuxNH> Donut sculptures!
[03:24] <shamrock_hh> anyone have a link for some good quality PNG files for ubuntu linking from my own website?
[03:24] <Slart> Jerry: xfi?
[03:24] <Jerry> yes
[03:24] <Slart> Jerry: what is xfi?
[03:24] <BrokenLinux> zenlinuxNH: haha, that's great
[03:25] <richw> Jerry: No, You might have to sell it and get 2 ZS.. or wait...
[03:25] <Jerry> creatives sound card
[03:25] <k1gwb> Feisty delayed? :-/
[03:25] <Jerry> thanks richw
[03:25] <Kinetic> just slammed i think
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> k1gwb: Read the /topic, go to #ubuntu-release-party, not here
[03:25] <Slart> Jerry: oh.. not sure about support for the newest cards.. perhaps someone else knows
[03:25] <richw> Jerry: Creative will release drivers later this year.... can wait if you want
[03:25] <Slart> Jerry: but creatives cards are so common so they are usually supported
[03:25] <M-Shuttleworth> k1gwb: I wanted a feature where clicking on the titlebar closes the window, so it's delays another day
[03:26] <dot_j> hi everybody - once you get feisty installed check out my new project at mumbles-project.org - if you're familiar with growl for OSX - it's similar - if not, check out the screenshots - also join me in #mumbles if you have any questions
[03:26] <richw> Jerry: Use on board sound for now?
[03:26] <k1gwb> Why would clicking on the titlebar close the window?
[03:26] <Jerry> ill have to
[03:26] <Jerry> thanks
[03:27] <bushwakko> when I ran the java .bin-file I got a RPM file...
[03:27] <Slart> dot_j: plugin driven, dbus based notification system ... *yaaaawn*.. I got sleepy just reading that ;).. what is it for?
[03:27] <jrib> bushwakko: you want to install the java jre?
[03:27] <IdleOne> !java > bushwakko
[03:27] <dot_j> Slart: lol - it's a popup notification deal - check out the screenshots
[03:27] <IdleOne> bushwakko, sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[03:27] <Wikzo> Is it normal to download with about 30 kb/s in BitTorrent? I am trying to get 7.04 ...
[03:27] <M-Shuttleworth> I hope you enjoy Ubuntu Feisty 7.04, please psot feedback to launchpad.net
[03:27] <IdleOne> Wikzo, it is not out yet
[03:28] <foutrelis> Seveas: Can you remove my ban from #ubuntu-release-party?
[03:28] <Wikzo> Indeed it is
[03:28] <Wikzo> http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[03:28] <Slart> dot_j: ah *looking*.. looks very nice..
[03:28] <rambo3> Nalleman, Somone ban M-Shuttleworth
[03:28] <PriceChild> Wikzo, feisty is not released. Out of this channel please
[03:28] <dot_j> Slart: thanks
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> Wikzo: not here
[03:28] <Wikzo> What do you mean? :S
[03:28] <Slart> dot_j: but isn't there something like that available already? or this one is better?
[03:28] <dot_j> I still have a ways to go, but it's a start
[03:28] <dot_j> Slart: I didnt find anything that did quite what I wanted
[03:28] <IdleOne> Wikzo, what your downloading is NOT read the /topic and go to #ubuntu-release-party or #ubuntu+1 for support is what we mean
[03:29] <foutrelis> PriceChild: Seveas banned me from #ubuntu-release-party for giving this link: http://kubuntu.org/download.php What is wrong with it? >.<
[03:29] <Nalleman> rambo3, ???
[03:29] <Jerry> another question, any good websites that i can read to help familerize myself with how linux works , what is different from linux and windows
[03:29] <Wikzo> Ok, sorry
[03:29] <Libra102> hello..
[03:29] <rambo3> Nalleman, yeah whats webtv you asked about ?
[03:29] <IdleOne> foutrelis, gonna get yourself banned from here also
[03:29] <M-Shuttleworth> Please follow the Ubuntu Philosophy in the channel
[03:30] <M-Shuttleworth> someone ban rambo3
[03:30] <enry> 7.04 release is really tomorrow??
[03:30] <PriceChild> foutrelis, feisty is not released yet. Don't kill mirrors by giving links
[03:30] <Gangleri> A question. Will we be able to upgrade to Feisty through UpdateManager today aswell, or is it "just" the ISO?
[03:30] <Slart> Jerry: there are lots of info out there.. linux isn't very well defined.. there are many many types...
[03:30] <foutrelis> PriceChild: There are mirror links on kubuntu.org
[03:30] <Libra102> 7.04 today..
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> enry: Read the /topic, #ubuntu-release-party not here
[03:30] <PriceChild> Gangleri, yes to update manager
[03:30] <mc44> M-Shuttleworth: please stop impersonating shuttleworth
[03:30] <foutrelis> PriceChild: I think that is official.
[03:30] <PriceChild> foutrelis, and?
[03:30] <richw> foutrelis: Dont worry.. Ops in a bad mood today :)
[03:30] <Gangleri> Tanks PriceChild
[03:30] <Nalleman> rambo3, oh, I asked why webtv shows to be so bright white
[03:30] <PriceChild> foutrelis, It is not released yet
[03:30] <virdiq> pricechild: too late on the spreading mirrors, ubuntu 7.04 mirrors have been dugg
[03:30] <snowblind> Hi guys. just got ubuntu running for the first time and have to say its flash except for the fonts. they look horrible as in jaggy/un-rounded. anyway i can make them display better? enabling the nvidia display driver didnt fix it/make it look better. thanks for any help with this!@
[03:30] <virdiq> just wait until they're slashdotted as well
[03:30] <ectospasm> Jerry:  and distros like Gentoo are extremely different than Ubuntu
[03:30] <rambo3> Nalleman, yeah i cant find webtv program
[03:30] <PriceChild> virdiq, yes.... but mirrors aren't ready yet
[03:31] <PriceChild> virdiq, don't put extra load till they're ready :)
[03:31] <virdiq> i know, but 1000's of people think they are
[03:31] <k1gwb> Looks like Gutsy Gibbon is gonna be pretty slick, huh???
[03:31] <harry> if I put a Feisty Install cd in the drive while I am running Edgy, I can upgrade without having to download all the packages, right?
[03:31] <Slart> Jerry: here's one page to start with http://www.michaelhorowitz.com/Linux.vs.Windows.html
[03:31] <foutrelis> PriceChild: And banning me for giving a link from the Kubuntu download page is right?
[03:31] <PriceChild> foutrelis, that is offtopic for this channel
[03:31] <noelferreira> ubuntu 7.04 is already available for download?
[03:31] <ma3x> hello can somebody help me setup 3d for my ATI card?
[03:31] <PriceChild> noelferreira, /topic
[03:31] <ma3x> or are there instructions somewhere?
[03:31] <Slart> noelferreira: read topic
[03:31] <foutrelis> PriceChild: Whatever.
[03:31] <jamfos> The problem is that there is a release page that looks like it could be the final version.
[03:31] <Nalleman> rambo3, well. I mean streaming video from the internet (not youtube)
[03:31] <jrib> harry: if you use the alternate install cd, yes
[03:31] <Slart> !ati | ma3x
[03:31] <ubotu> ma3x: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:31] <jrib> !upgrade > harry    (harry, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:31] <virdiq> if RTFT didn't exist, i just invented it :p
[03:31] <noelferreira> lol
[03:31] <Jerry> so what is used in place of , say .exe's, do different linux distros use differenet types
[03:32] <richw> This place is crazy.. im out of here
[03:32] <noelferreira> thanks
[03:32] <harry> thanks.
[03:32] <piksi> Jerry: +x flag
[03:32] <ATi7500> can somebody help me to setup an internet connection sharing?
[03:32] <virdiq> jerry, linux uses "ELF" structured executables
[03:32] <Slart> Jerry: eh.. kind of =).. there are executable files.. yes.. but they don't have to have the exe extension
[03:32] <virdiq> windows uses "PE" formatted executables
[03:32] <dj-fu> +x isn't technically correct
[03:32] <variant> oh my, 1517 users in this channel now.. thats the most i have seen!
[03:32] <virdiq> the file extension means nothing
[03:33] <PriceChild> variant, 3rd biggest in the world ;)
[03:33] <dj-fu> executable != binary, also
[03:33] <Slart> Jerry: in linux files aren't defined by how they are named.. a file called myfile could be a program, an image, a text....
[03:33] <piksi> virdiq: from the point of view of a standard user, the executable flag means the most
[03:33] <variant> Jerry: you can set the executable permission on any file.. whether or not it actualy does anything when you "run" it is annother story
[03:33] <fami> dj-fu: executable is subset of binary
[03:33] <snowblind> Anyone know where I can start to getting the fonts looking not so fuzzy/bad?
[03:33] <xukun> it's even much more than debian itself
[03:34] <_Neil> isnt ubuntu+1 due out now?
[03:34] <Slart> Jerry: but from a new user point of view.. a windows system that hides file extensions and ubuntu isn't that different
[03:34] <_Neil> its been on 'tomorrow' for like 2 days
[03:34] <variant> Jerry: you can make a jpeg executable with chmod +x filename.jpeg but obviously that doesn't make it an actual executable program
[03:34] <rambo3> !msfonts | snowblind
[03:34] <piksi> virdiq: sorry, went to the wrong guy
[03:34] <ubotu> snowblind: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:34] <ATi7500> can somebody help me to setup an internet connection sharing?
[03:34] <virdiq> piksi: understood
[03:34] <Jerry> so basiclly it needs to coded to do something
[03:34] <dj-fu> fami: lol, is that right?
[03:35] <Kaur> ATi7500: look to the forum
[03:35] <variant> Jerry: ubunut/unix in general decides what sort of file a file is by the contents of the file rather than the extension.. you could rename image.jpeg to image.bin and ubuntu would still know it was a jpeg
[03:35] <variant> Jerry: no
[03:35] <Slart> Jerry: menues don't look quite the same, some  things are named differently.. but basically the handling is the same.. you double click files to open/run them... you have windows that represents folders (as in explorer).. etc etc
[03:35] <lolocaust> hi, i have a quick question, if I want my home folder to be a subfolder on another partition, can i just make /home/lolocaust a symlink to the new folder? i assume i'll have to delete the original folder first right?
[03:35] <ATi7500> Kaur: i took a look at it, but i have some questions
[03:35] <elliotjhug> /hoin #ubuntu-release-party
[03:35] <flodine> how much longer before this final can be downloaded feisty
[03:35] <PriceChild> flodine, when its released
[03:35] <Kaur> ATi7500: I don't know much of it, but shoot
[03:36] <ubd> ee
[03:36] <ubd> hi
[03:36] <wastrel> lolocaust:  best would be to mount /home on that other partition
[03:36] <Slart> flodine: exactly 47.3 minutes according to my calculations..
[03:36] <piksi> i don't quite get it, it's not officially out, but still 7.04 torrents and isos are available?
[03:36] <wutzeknoll> anyone know how i can open realplayer filetypes with firefox? i have installed realplayer but my firefox dont open realplayer files
[03:36] <Beliar> i thought final can already be downloaded 0o
[03:36] <ubd> i forget my user account password/ how can i change or recover it
[03:36] <ATi7500> Kaur: first of all, in the "server" pc i have feisty, on the "client" edgy..is it a problem?
[03:36] <Beliar> I'm downloading via bittorrent right now
[03:36] <snowblind> !msfonts
[03:36] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:36] <tdn> How do I see my CPU/System temperature in Ubuntu/Kubuntu? I have a Pentium 4. What do I need to do?
[03:36] <Kaur> ATi7500: I don't think so
[03:36] <Slart> flodine: the people that know are probably busy working on it and not here chatting on irc.. so you won't get any good answers
[03:36] <variant> lolocaust: if you have for example /media/newpartition/myrealhome you could symlink that to /home/yourusername and it would work exactly the same as if it wasn't a symlink
[03:36] <dj-fu> tdn: ACPI, lm_sensors and the relevant kernel modules
[03:36] <jrib> ubd: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu, then use this command to change the password for your user:  passwd USERNAME_HERE
[03:37] <piksi> Beliar: me too, and i don't really understand how it could NOT be the final release
[03:37] <piksi> Beliar: at least it doesn't say beta ;-)
[03:37] <orbin> planning on doing a feisty install from scratch.  can i reuse my edgy /home partition though? or is it wiser to do configs all over?
[03:37] <tdn> dj-fu, yes. But *how*? Do you know any docs for it?
[03:37] <predaeus> tdn, try xsensors or probably there is a panel applet for kde.
[03:37] <USMarine> tdn ap-get install ksensors
[03:37] <dj-fu> tdn: it's pretty painless, I don't have any docs handy
[03:37] <lolocaust> i already have a partition where i keep my documents, i was just hoping i could make a subfolder there for my home folder so i dont have to make a seperate partition for it
[03:37] <variant> tdn: apt-get install gkrellm, it's anice graphical way to monitor those kind of things
[03:37] <dj-fu> (been a long time since I referred to them)
[03:37] <lolocaust> variant: ok thanks
[03:38] <bushwakko> is there a howto on ubuntu for installin 1.4 on the side with 1.5? I did as someone here said and downlaoded the bin from sun, got an rpm, made a deb of it and installed it, but it doesnt show up on update-java-alternatives!
[03:38] <tdn> dj-fu, what do I install? What do I exec?
[03:38] <ubd> jrib cant i use it now?
[03:38] <Jerry> ok thanks well im gonna read on this site
[03:38] <tdn> USMarine, ok.
[03:38] <dj-fu> tdn: learn2google
[03:38] <variant> tdn: if you juts want to check once off you can run: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THZN/temperature
[03:38] <variant> dj-fu: thats not really helpfull is it?
[03:38] <tdn> variant, I have tried that. thermal_zone is empty.
[03:38] <dj-fu> that's very true
[03:38] <locolbd> does anyone here know how i can set xmms to be my  default music player intead of movie player?
[03:38] <dj-fu> but sif caring
[03:38] <Beliar> hmm, but #ubuntu-release-party's topic says: FEISTY IS NOT OUT YET
[03:38] <ATi7500> ok, next question is: in the properties of the network card on the "server" there are 3 settings available: Static IP address, DHCP, Local zeroconf network (ipv4 LL)..which should i choose?
[03:38] <USMarine> xmms sucks
[03:38] <IdleOne> bushwakko, you want to install java go to terminal and type sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[03:38] <USMarine> amarok ftw
[03:38] <dj-fu> USMarine: mpd + gmpc > *
[03:39] <variant> tdn: that means that either your system does not have the thermal module loaded or it is not supported properly
[03:39] <jrib> ubd: use what now?  the command?  only if you can get into an account with sudo access
[03:39] <Kaur> ATi7500:  i believe it should be static
[03:39] <variant> tdn: if it's a laptop it may not have very good acpi support
[03:39] <Kaur> ATi7500:  but i'm not sure
[03:39] <nach0s> is this release the final version of feisty ? http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[03:39] <variant> tdn: run lsmod | grep thermal
[03:39] <IdleOne> NO
[03:39] <ATi7500> Kaur: and do i have to set <IP_ADDRESS> on the server and .2 on the client
[03:39] <compilerwriter> ati7500 does your machine always have the same ip?
[03:39] <ATi7500> ?
[03:39] <Slart> USMarine: not everyone want the itunes-experience.. some just want a small music app...
[03:39] <ubd> jrib how can i see the list of users?
[03:39] <delire> pytone for the world!
[03:40] <Kaur> ATi7500:  look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370&highlight=internet+connection+share
[03:40] <ATi7500> compilerwriter i don't think so, but i am not sure
[03:40] <virdiq> iTunes: yuk..
[03:40] <jrib> ubd: ls /home   will give you a good idea
[03:40] <tdn> variant, I have tried modprobe thermal and then looked in thermal_zone. It is still empty.
[03:40] <toolee> feel good here.
[03:40] <compilerwriter> ati7500 if your machine is not always the same ip then you need to use DHCP instead of static.
[03:40] <variant> tdn: what kind of laptop is it?
[03:40] <ATi7500> compilerwriter: i am trying to setup a network connection sharing
[03:41] <Kaur> compilerwroter: server should have a static
[03:41] <ubd> is there any other way/ cuz ' d'dnt format /home wh'le 'nstall'ng
[03:41] <tdn> variant, no laptop. Its a desktop. It's Pentium 4.
[03:41] <Kaur> compilerwroter: or not?
[03:41] <ATi7500> Kaur:  i read that, but should i do all that in the server or in the client?
[03:41] <ubd> and u see also my keyboard is out of order//
[03:41] <fami> dj-fu: yes
[03:41] <compilerwriter> ati7500 your router then should let you have a static ip within the network.
[03:41] <dj-fu> fami: no
[03:41] <variant> tdn: are you concerned about the temperature or just curious? it may not support the thermal interface in acpi (your motherboard)
[03:41] <fami> dj-fu: define no
[03:41] <tdn> variant, concerned.
[03:41] <ATi7500> compilerwriter and Kaur, can you join #ATi7500
[03:42] <bushwakko> IdleOne: I have java5 installe
[03:42] <Kaur> ATi7500:  i think that in the setver
[03:42] <dj-fu> fami: define yes, how did you come to the conclusion that executable is a subset of binary?
[03:42] <variant> tdn: what make of motherboard is is exactly?
[03:42] <tdn> variant, it is a fairly new computer. I think that it would support it?
[03:42] <Kaur> ATi7500:  I mean that these instructions are for server
[03:42] <variant> tdn: possibly, not definatly though
[03:42] <bushwakko> IdleOne: Its java 1.4 im having trouble installing
[03:42] <dj-fu> tdn: lm_sensors is what you need, and a board with sensors on it
[03:42] <dj-fu> that's exactly what I was referring to
[03:42] <cevizuser> Hi Everyody
[03:42] <ATi7500> Kaur: can you join #ATi7500 ?
[03:42] <dj-fu> bash, php-cli, python, perl
[03:42] <dj-fu> ... a myriad of other interpreted executable languages
[03:43] <Kaur> ATi7500:  sorry, but i have to go
[03:43] <ATi7500> ok, thanks
[03:43] <Slart> what is the definition of binary, btw?
[03:43] <Kaur> ATi7500:  but keep asking once in a while... Someone will help:)
[03:43] <Slart> non-ascii characters?
[03:43] <dj-fu> one would hope binary = [0,1]
[03:43] <tdn> variant, it is a Soltek.
[03:43] <Slart> then all files are binary files?
[03:43] <fami> bash script.. is not binary? :O
[03:43] <dj-fu> at some level
[03:44] <wastrel> hello
[03:44] <fami> yes all files 're binary
[03:44] <gepatino> if you refer to files, usually compiled programs are called binary
[03:44] <variant> tdn: run lshw | grep Motherboard
[03:44] <Slart> then I'd have to withdraw my previous statement.. executables are a subset of binary files =)
[03:44] <variant> tdn: actualy, thats not that usefull.. just a sek
[03:45] <variant> tdn: run lshw | grep -A 6 Motherboard
[03:45] <gepatino> and also any kind of file that's not human readable
[03:45] <Suurorca> when people are talking about binaries, they usually refer to a file that is already in the architecture-native machinelanguage and therefore executable without any abstraction layerts
[03:45] <bullgard4> What is the Unicode value of the characters  and  ? What is their name in Unicode?
[03:45] <Slart> gepatino: yes.. but is an image file a binary? or it has to be a compiled program?
[03:45] <variant> gepatino: what like a plain text file containing garbage.. ?
[03:45] <gepatino> images are binaries
[03:45] <dj-fu> one could argue that all things non ascii are binary
[03:45] <tdn> variant, http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=498
[03:45] <gepatino> variant: you could call it binary if you want
[03:46] <plb> KUBUNTU FEISTY IS OUT NOW!
[03:46] <bustelo> PNG image files aren't binary, I don't think.
[03:46] <plb> no ubuntu though
[03:46] <variant> gepatino: how exactly? it has exactly zero properties of a binary
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> Party in #ubuntu-release-party, keep #ubuntu support-related all.
[03:46] <tdn> variant, useful?
[03:46] <variant> tdn: checking
[03:46] <Suurorca> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_data
[03:46] <gepatino> well.. to be right, anything inside a computer is binary
[03:46] <Suurorca> go read that :p
[03:46] <_Neil> hmm
[03:47] <_Neil> how come kubuntu is out, but ubuntu isnt :)
[03:47] <variant> tdn: yes, your motherboard doesn't support ACPI, it supports the older (obsolete) apm
[03:47] <Slart> I think I would define a binary as a file containing non-ascii data.. but that's just me
[03:47] <gepatino> now... to put it simple, the files that you cant understand using cat/more, or edit using vi are the kind that people call binaries
[03:47] <variant> gepatino: what, like all those cables and bits of plastic?
[03:48] <ubd> i dont have a user account how will i create one
[03:48] <tdn> variant, hmm.... capabilities says that it supports acpi?
[03:48] <variant> gepatino: no their not
[03:48] <gepatino> variant: yes, they' re binary too :)
[03:48] <variant> tdn: sorry, i stopped reading after i saw apm :) yeah your right
[03:48] <fami> lol
[03:48] <variant> tdn: anyway, do you have _anything_ under /proc/acpi?
[03:48] <gepatino> Slart: you are quite right, but besides ascii you sould consider utf-8, what about other languages?
[03:48] <tdn> variant, sure. I have thermal_zone for instance ;)
[03:48] <Dygear> So, is Ubuntu 7.10 released?
[03:49] <variant> tdn: but it is empty
[03:49] <_Neil> apparently not
[03:49] <Slart> here's what wiki says
[03:49] <Slart> A Hexdump of a JPEG image. First column numerates the line's starting address.
[03:49] <Slart> A Hexdump of a JPEG image. First column numerates the line's starting address.
[03:49] <Slart> A binary file is a computer file which may contain any type of data, encoded in binary form for computer storage and processing purposes; for example, computer document files containing formatted text. Many binary file formats contain parts that can be interpreted as text; binary files that contain only textual data - without, for example, any formatting information - are called plain text files. In many cases, plain text files are cons
[03:49] <Slart> idered to be different from binary files because binary files are made up of more than just plain text.
[03:49] <jrib> Dygear: not for another 6 months
[03:49] <_Neil> kubuntu site says it is tho
[03:49] <ubd> HOw can i create a user account/ pls help
[03:49] <wilykat> does anybody here per chance have an hp nx6125 laptop?
[03:49] <PriceChild> Dygear, not for 6  months
[03:49] <tdn> variant, yes
[03:49] <UNDERsoN> On linux.org.ru this is link on release http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[03:49] <tdn> variant, http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=499
[03:49] <fortitUs> hey everyone
[03:49] <Dygear> jrib: Eh, 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> UNDERsoN: #ubuntu-release-party not here
[03:49] <variant> tdn: do you have /proc/apm?
[03:50] <fortitUs> does anyone know if theres an installation interface similar to FC6
[03:50] <jrib> Dygear: #ubuntu-release-party then :)
[03:50] <fortitUs> for Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn?
[03:50] <Slart> gepatino: yes.. utf-8 is a problem... well. I guess you can't make a everlasting definition of a text file either... new formats will come along..
[03:50] <tdn> variant, more useful: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=500
[03:50] <ubd> HOw can i create a user account/ pls help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:50] <variant> ubd: useradd username
[03:50] <jrib> ubd: create a new one?
[03:50] <tdn> variant, ls: /proc/apm: No such file or directory
[03:50] <zach382> is 7.04 out yet?
[03:50] <ubd> i dont have any old
[03:50] <Dygear> Thanks guys :)
[03:50] <tdn> zach382, se topic.
[03:50] <jrib> zach382: #ubuntu-release-party
[03:50] <ubd> i just have root only
[03:50] <wilykat> i've been having issues with fiesty shutting down since installing a few weeks back, the splash with its progress bar flickers and the machine fails to power down, leaving hdd activity led going until i tap power, power down only happening after the 5 second pwr hold...
[03:50] <Slart> zach382: topic..
[03:50] <gepatino> Slart: utf8 is no problem at all... in fact, i need to write mi family name right ;) (Patio)
[03:50] <Dygear> Sorry to jump in on ya.
[03:50] <bur[n] er> ubd: system -> administration -> users and groups
[03:51] <bur[n] er> zach382: get the torrent :)
[03:51] <wilykat> any ideas?
[03:51] <Amendt> ubd yes
[03:51] <variant> tdn: lsmod | grep thermal doesn't show anything?
[03:51] <nelsong> Hello guys, is there a way so that totem-gstreamer plays quicktime files?
[03:51] <jrib> ubd: log in as root and do:  adduser NEW_USERNAME_HERE
[03:51] <Slart> gepatino: hehe.. only a problem if you're trying to define "text file"
[03:51] <variant> tdn: if it does, does it say "in use"
[03:51] <fastly> will feisty finally allow my laptop to hibernate and suspend ?
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> fastly: You'll have to try and see.
[03:51] <bur[n] er> that's crap...  7.04 is out!
[03:51] <ubd> i did useradd is that ok
[03:51] <tdn> variant, http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=501
[03:51] <Slart> fastly: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:51] <variant> fastly: perhaps, edgy fixed my laptops hibernate
[03:51] <bur[n] er> fastly: possibly... wokrs on my compaq x1000
[03:51] <gepatino> Slart: if your system supports utf8, its also a text file. the division should be human readable vs human unreadable
[03:51] <fastly> encouraging ;-)
[03:51] <jrib> ubd: adduser is easier to use
[03:52] <bur[n] er> ubd: that's ok, but there's also a gui
[03:52] <spolyak> happy feisty day all!!!!
[03:52] <gepatino> Slart: utf8 is human readable (in a system that supports it)
[03:52] <variant> tdn: thats what it should show..
[03:52] <fastly> i have a vaio vgn-ar21s
[03:52] <variant> tdn: i will have alook for support on your mobo online. back in a momment
[03:52] <Slart> gepatino: a word file is readable.. if you use ms word.. a utf file is readable if you use a utf-8 capable text editor
[03:52] <fami> tonyyarusso: which best laptop model is supported by ubuntu?
[03:52] <bur[n] er> someone should update the topic witha  link to the 7.04 torrent
[03:52] <ubd> i have xfce burner
[03:52] <fastly> thinking about running feisty as my primary OS
[03:52] <wilykat> Sorry to double post but scrolls off screen too fast with all this feisty release day gubbins i've been having issues with fiesty shutting down since installing a few weeks back, the splash with its progress bar flickers and the machine fails to power down, leaving hdd activity led going until i tap power, power down only happening after the 5 second pwr hold...
[03:52] <gepatino> Slart: got me... :(   ... anyway.... i love utf8 :P
[03:53] <bur[n] er> fami: anything at system76.com
[03:53] <fastly> does anyone here use videoconferencing?
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> fami: I'd guess the system76.com ones.  I have a Thinkpad myself
[03:53] <fami> fastly: i am running 6.06
[03:53] <IdleOne> bur[n] er, soon as it is released they will
[03:53] <ubd> and my xfce doesnt start automat'cly/ should i create a initrc file
[03:53] <bur[n] er> ubd: in that case, adduser is cool ;)  make sure to put them in the administrators group if you want to give them sudo access
[03:53] <Slart> gepatino: yes... it's a good thing... if everyone supports it
[03:53] <fami> fastly: as main desktop OS
[03:53] <larryone> My machine is acting very strangely now. it just rebooted for seemingly no reason
[03:53] <tdn> variant, cool. Thanks.
[03:53] <receptor> i'm about to install feisty. i want to put it on sda3 (sata disk) and install bootloader in sda3. what do i specify in installer advanced options? is this grub-compatible entry?
[03:53] <Siman> my wireless works out of the box with 7.04 ubuntu, but not xubuntu, what am i missing?
[03:53] <JebJoya> hey 2 questions, 1 ubuntu related, 1 really not - how much of an improvement will feisty have over edgy in wireless compatibility?  and second, does anyone know of that site which allows you to get paid for small programming tasks?
[03:53] <ubd> and 3rd where can i configure my keyboard
[03:54] <bur[n] er> IdleOne: check out digg.com and there's a link to the 7.04 torrent... aslo on ubuntu.com :P
[03:54] <magnetron> does anyone know of a webcam that works natively with ubuntu?
[03:54] <variant> tdn: you might want to stop acpi with /etc/init.d/acpid stop and start apmd instead (/etc/init.d/apmd start)
[03:54] <Amaranth> Ubuntu 7.04 is not yet out. Please don't ask when it'll be released, we don't know either.
[03:54] <Slart> ubd: system menu, preferences, keyboard?
[03:54] <Bokeh> bur[n] er: that one is not final yet
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> !webcam | magnetron
[03:54] <ubotu> magnetron: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:54] <variant> tdn: and see if you have any more luck tiwth that. i am still looking though
[03:54] <IdleOne> bur[n] er, digg is the end all and be all of truth
[03:54] <ubd> bur[n] er whats difference between adduser and useradd
[03:54] <variant> wilykat: ASK IN #UBUNTU+1
[03:54] <xq> As S said, digg.com did have a very premature ejaculation. Digg needs some Horny Goat Weed + More IMO.
[03:54] <bur[n] er> magnetron: my logitech quickcam does
[03:54] <bur[n] er> Bokeh: it doesn't say rc or beta or anything
[03:54] <wilykat> variant: thanks
[03:55] <ubd> slart i dont have gui! tell me a conf file pls
[03:55] <Bokeh> no, but the release team hasn't approved it yet
[03:55] <bur[n] er> ubd: Bokeh: ubuntu.com takes you directly to the download page
[03:55] <xq> Also probably Valium would be good for DIGG given its constant "anxious, changing" state of ... mind.
[03:55] <Slart> magnetron: there are some lists for hardware that works/doesn't work on linux... find a nice webcam and do a google search for the name+linux
[03:55] <Bokeh> it didn't say RC 3 weeks ago
[03:55] <Bokeh> but it was obviously still in beta then
[03:55] <devildawg> I can't get the 6.10 livecd to work.  I get the menu and see it loading but once the os starts up I just get a black screen with thin yellow lines going down it and after a few seconds I hear like a login sound.  Any way to fix the video or is my system not compatible?
[03:55] <tdn> variant, stopping *acpi* and starting *apm*? Should that make /proc/*acpi*/thermal_zone/* work?
[03:55] <xq> Bokeh, look at the date. It most likely says 15 Apr 2007. Which is RC.
[03:55] <Bokeh> and only the feisty download link takes you to feisty (obviously)
[03:55] <Slart> ubd: oops.. sorry.. I have no idea how to do it console -style
[03:55] <bur[n] er> Bokeh: which is why it wouldn't say rc if it's beta ;)  rc != beta
[03:55] <Bokeh> if you click the download most recent stable thingy, it takes you to either dapper or edgy
[03:55] <xq> Bokeh: What is the modified date on the file you are getting/needing in that directory? :)
[03:55] <variant> tdn: no, that will get rid of /proc/acpi altogether.. should create /proc/apm though
[03:55] <JebJoya> does anyone know of that site which allows you to get paid for small programming tasks?  (sorry it's kinda non-ubuntu, it's been bugging me for ages...)
[03:56] <tdn> variant, ok
[03:56] <Bokeh> xq: i don't have any problem with it mate, i already run feisty for ages
[03:56] <xq> In */release/ -- look at the modified date.
[03:56] <Bokeh> it's bur[n] er that thinks 7.04 is already final :)
[03:56] <tdn> variant, it doesn't though.
[03:56] <Slart> JebJoya: there are some auction style sites that do taht.. don't know any names but they do exist
[03:56] <tdn> variant, and dmesg says: [17181563.156000]  apm: disabled on user request.
[03:56] <variant> tdn: lol thats odd
[03:56] <yanger> if i want a clean install of ubuntu (with the least amount of iso to download), would it be convienent to just grab the server edition and then upgrade?
[03:56] <variant> tdn: just a moment
[03:56] <tdn> variant, when *starting* apmd.
[03:56] <Linoleum> so finely is ubuntu support DMRAID ?
[03:56] <frandavid100> hello
[03:56] <variant> tdn: you can try "apmd" on the comman dline
[03:56] <JebJoya> Slart: yeah, I saw it ages ago on /. but haven't found it since... Dangit
[03:57] <variant> tdn: should start it
[03:57] <Linoleum> I ve beed trying to install ubuntu on my raid0 system but no... I ve got the error ALERT! does not exist ... that s odd
[03:57] <Par-Tay> Linoleum, congrats
[03:57] <Bokeh> Linoleum: software or hardware raid0?
[03:57] <Par-Tay> you fail!
[03:57] <ypSami> Really. Thank you. I am crying tears of joy over this release. I mean, beryl; installed via packages with no configuration... I need tissue.
[03:57] <JebJoya> Slart: Aha, the word auction helped - thanks :D
[03:57] <Linoleum> Bokeh its a fakeraid with bios
[03:57] <Slart> JebJoya: first hit from google for "Programming auction" http://www.freelancewebprogramming.com/
[03:57] <Bokeh> brrr fakeraid
[03:57] <Bokeh> sorry, not touching fakeraid with a 11 feet pole
[03:58] <Slart> what is fakeraid?
[03:58] <JebJoya> Slart: yeah, just found it with that word, thanks :D
[03:58] <minttea> are there issues with the 7.04 torrents?
[03:58] <acuster> !pastebin
[03:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:58] <acuster> !paste
[03:58] <Linoleum> I dont understand because it works well with fedora 6
[03:58] <tdn> variant, ahh... It says: No APM support in kernel
[03:58] <variant> tdn: thats irritating, the ubuntu docs say it is built but disabled. try modprobe apm first
[03:58] <tdn> variant, but why do I want to use apm, when my cpu/motherboard supports acpi?
[03:58] <frandavid100> so... they say in the forums that the torrent is out already, is that true?
[03:58] <Linoleum> Slart its a raid , but fake because it is suppose to be hardware but actualy it s software, trhought the bios and drivers in windows
[03:59] <tdn> variant, FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): No such device
[03:59] <frandavid100> and sorry to ask, I know it's not been announced
[03:59] <variant> tdn: because your acpi support is either incomplete or not well supported in ubunut. we can try apm to see if that works better
[03:59] <Linoleum> I would like to know
[03:59] <Slart> Linoleum: aaaahh.. just found it on the web.. I had one of those.. it died and took all my data with it into the grave.... grrr
[03:59] <tdn> variant, ok.
[03:59] <variant> tdn: jeeze.. lets just stick with acpi then
[03:59] <variant> tdn: fire it up again
[03:59] <tdn> variant, done
[04:00] <ATi7500> anyone with a good knowledge of networking can join #ATi7500 please?
[04:00] <variant> tdn: do you know of any bios updates that are available for your bios? allways worth updating when there is one avail#
[04:00] <Linoleum> I think dmraid starts not as the first thing in my initramfs ... any idea on how I can changes the priority in the initramfs, so it s loader in first?
[04:00] <Woody_> is it released yet?
[04:00] <tdn> variant, nope.
[04:00] <tdn> variant, I don't know.
[04:00] <variant> tdn: ok
[04:00] <siriusly> kubuntu is released
[04:00] <tdn> siriusly, 7.04?
[04:00] <Woody_> Ubuntu 7.04 is released?
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> siriusly: apparently not
[04:01] <larryone> no it isnt
[04:01] <Linoleum> only kubuntu
[04:01] <larryone> release is tomorrow
[04:01] <zbrown> Hmmm is there a reason that gnomesword default installs the arabic bible? lol
[04:01] <variant> tdn: it's a soltek 85ERV if you want to take a look
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> All talk in #ubuntu-release-party, only support here.
[04:01] <SCipher> I want to uninstall Mozilla Firefox, but the manager shows that it will uninstall ubuntu-desktop. It will remove whole package ubuntu-desktop?
[04:01] <tdn> Why would Kubuntu be released before Ubuntu?
[04:01] <Linoleum> duno
[04:01] <variant> tdn: they are testing releasees only
[04:01] <USMarine> SCipher if it's just that package, its ok
[04:01] <Slart> SCipher: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[04:01] <TuTuFF> there are images available on releases.ubuntu.com not labelled beta (which stuff was previously) so i suspect stuff is out just not officially globally released yet
[04:01] <tdn> variant, I will Google for updates for BIOS on soltek 85ERV
[04:01] <ATi7500> Woody_: yes it is
[04:01] <peter77> is there a program to open .rar files?
[04:01] <ATi7500> i will give you the link, wait
[04:01] <fami> tonyyarusso: system76 is a company?
[04:01] <Slart> wow.. ubuntu.com actually works now =)
[04:01] <devildawg> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[04:01] <SCipher> so it will remowe whole package?
[04:02] <Seveas> tdn, apparently even kubuntu.org was wrong about releasing
[04:02] <USMarine> peter77 winrar?
[04:02] <ATi7500> devildawg:  thanks :D
[04:02] <siriusly> http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> fami: yep, system76.com, sound like cool stuff
[04:02] <Slart> SCipher: it will remove the package but not the applications..
[04:02] <SCipher> without consequences for system?
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> devildawg: Don't post links here
[04:02] <USMarine> SCipher no
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> siriusly: same to you
[04:02] <SCipher> thanks
[04:02] <peter77> USMarine, in linux
[04:03] <USMarine> there's winrar for linux in case you didn't google
[04:03] <JebJoya> Slart: I found the one I wanted - rentacoder.com :)
[04:03] <Terrasque> USMarine: shouldnt that be called linrar? :p
[04:03] <someothernick> lol
[04:03] <USMarine> maybe
[04:03] <Slart> JebJoya: ah.. I remember that name now that you mention it..
[04:03] <USMarine> i'm not the coder of it
[04:04] <USMarine> win = winner
[04:04] <USMarine> :P
[04:04] <DShepherd> wow... 1557 nice
[04:04] <peter77> USMarine, RAR for linux is only command line
[04:04] <devildawg> My bad.  Anyone know the anwser to my question.  If the video doesn't work when the livecd os loads your screwed?
[04:04] <RichiH> hmm
[04:04] <Slart> I use file roller.. it handles rar files nicely
[04:05] <gubluntu> anyone here have any experiance setting up software raid on ubuntu server with SATA ?
[04:05] <variant> apt-get install rar unrar-free unrar
[04:05] <fami> tonyyarusso: how compare system76 with your thinkpad?
[04:05] <variant> tdn: not looking promising, can't find sqat about your motherboard + thermal zone support on linux
[04:05] <Slart> devildawg: considering it's linux... you can probably change something.. config something.. download something to make it work.. I don't know what though =/
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> fami: pretty similar from what I hear, but I haven't managed to get a system76 yet myself.
[04:05] <capiira> unrar non-free supports newer rar format!
[04:05] <larryone> my X session keeps hanging and I am having serious trouble debugging it. Am I likely to have more success with the prop drivers for my ATI card??
[04:06] <delire> larryone: yes probably. did you look in ~/.xsession-errors?
[04:06] <larryone> I did
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> devildawg: The live cd is limited in what graphics setups (card, monitor) it can handle.  You may still be able to install a functional system from the !alternate CD
[04:06] <oyvind> Thinkpad Z61m, ATI X1400, 7.04 livecd => loading animation eventually disappears, I/O stops and screen goes black. dapper and edgy livecds worked fine on same hardware .. :(
[04:06] <larryone> nothing there seems to look too serious
[04:06] <larryone> just a gnome panel error
[04:06] <tdn> variant, :(
[04:06] <delire> larryone: ahah.. interesting.
[04:06] <larryone> also looked in /var/log/Xwhatever/log*
[04:06] <tdn> variant, can't find any BIOS updates either. Can't see .tw domains from here.
[04:07] <delire> larryone: try creating a new user and see if it happens when logged in as that user..
[04:07] <larryone> but there doesnt seem to be any fatal errors there either
[04:07] <variant> tdn: odd, show me the link and i will look if you like
[04:07] <eifzon> i just installed the ubuntu 7.04 fiesty version, and i installed nvidia-glx driver, when i tried to start X it just closes, i cant use X now :S
[04:07] <variant> tdn: you chekced soltek website?
[04:07] <larryone> delire, I'll give it a go
[04:07] <zack> hey... just wondering where you can find an ubuntu wallpaper that was of a woman with red panties with the ubuntu logo on them?
[04:07] <variant> eifzon: #UBUNTU+1 FOR FEISTY SUPPORT
[04:07] <delire> larryone: maybe some panel preference you set has gone awry somehow. does sound very unusual though.
[04:07] <tdn> variant, it's .tw. I can't see that from here: http://www.soltek.com.tw/soltek/download/download_all.php?isbn_st=SL-85ERV
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> zack: google images likely.
[04:08] <larryone> delire, this is a fresh install...
[04:08] <tbender_> hi.
[04:08] <capiira> why still+1?
[04:08] <fleas> Is there not a PPC 7.04 port anymore?
[04:08] <delire> larryone: oh.. odd.
[04:08] <zack> tonyyarusso: tried that...
[04:08] <variant> fleas: not an official one
[04:08] <internet_> hello
[04:08] <macographer> is there an alternative to logrotate on Ubuntu 6.06?
[04:08] <fleas> blah
[04:08] <variant> macographer: u don't like logrotate?
[04:08] <larryone> delire, I have been trying to get ubuntu running on this machine for weeks now
[04:08] <variant> macographer: it's great :)
[04:08] <fleas> variant but there is 'one'?
[04:08] <larryone> this hads so far beent eh most successful run
[04:08] <variant> fleas: afaik
[04:08] <macographer> variant: it doesn't look like it's installed on my VPS
[04:08] <tbender_> i have a question about the update possibilities of ubuntu
[04:08] <delire> larryone: odd. what's the machine?
[04:09] <tbender_> :
[04:09] <dc> can someone walk me through a dist - upgrade from edgy to fiesty?
[04:09] <variant> macographer: so install it..
[04:09] <larryone> delire, AMD Athlon
[04:09] <macographer> variant: is it in a repo?
[04:09] <larryone> self build]
[04:09] <jrib> !upgrade > dc    (dc, see the private message from ubotu)
[04:09] <tdn> variant, I have an evil ISP who rewrites DNS (among other tings.). And just has crappy service. Example of how bad it is here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=489
[04:09] <variant> macographer: apt-get install logrotate
[04:09] <tbender_> i used gentoo for the last years and installed ubunt now.
[04:09] <macographer> lol.
[04:09] <dc> jrib: i cant see private messages
[04:09] <macographer> variant: thanks.
[04:09] <dc> !upgrade
[04:09] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:09] <fleas> Also, should I use 'atlernative 64' if I want to dual boot a Mac Pro?
[04:09] <variant> tdn: ah, an Internet Service Preventer
[04:09] <Slart> zack: this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/data/5/1149748980036.jpg
[04:09] <tbender_> everybody said, that they released the new ubuntu today
[04:10] <tbender_> !upgrade
[04:10] <tdn> variant, hehe. Yes.
[04:10] <tezem> !upgrade
[04:10] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:10] <variant> tdn: i don't seem to be able to connect to soltek site either for some reason
[04:10] <internet__> hey
[04:10] <larryone> delire, dapper wouldnt install from cd for me - now would Edgy. tried all 64 and 32 bit versions only thing that would install was breezy 64bit
[04:10] <delire> larryone: oh.. well i haven't had problems on this arch. perhaps you might want to install the proprietary graphics drivers. before you do though, install openssh-server and i can walk you through connecting to it from another machine.
[04:10] <larryone> nor*
[04:10] <Slart> zack: bah.. link didn't work
[04:10] <delire> larryone: do you have another UNIX machine around?
[04:10] <tbender_> cant i upgrade on the new version without cd?
[04:10] <Pulani> it possible to upgrade from feisty beta to release atm?
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> Pulani: Nope, release not final.  It will be possible soon though.
[04:10] <dc> jrib: it doesnt show how to go from 6.10 to 7.04
[04:10] <larryone> I have a dapper machine that never gave me problems  but it's a bit slow
[04:10] <tdn> variant, ok. Then maybe this is not my ISP this time. But often it is.
[04:10] <variant> Pulani: ask in #ubuntu+!
[04:11] <variant> Pulani: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:11] <larryone> delire, I have a dapper machine that never gave me problems  but it's a bit slow
[04:11] <dc> can someone walk me through a dist - upgrade from edgy to fiesty?
[04:11] <jrib> dc: it does, 7.04 is "feisty"
[04:11] <ma3x> where dod i get kubuntu
[04:11] <ma3x> the site doesnt owkr
[04:11] <invisiblepinkuni> how do i add an something to the application menu?
[04:11] <Pulani> thx tonyyarusso
[04:11] <variant> dc: no, ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:11] <dc> jrib: i know that
[04:11] <larryone> delire, but I only have one network uplink
[04:11] <dc> variant: ok thanks
[04:11] <Garret88> when will be released the final?
[04:11] <zack> Slart: that's ok :D
[04:11] <fleas> Does anyone have Ubuntu running on a Mac Pro?
[04:11] <delire> larryone: probably hard disk speed related. install openssh-server on the offending machine, note the IP and ssh into it when it hangs. we can find out what's wrong.
[04:12] <variant> Garret88: read the topic
[04:12] <Slart> zack: http://images.google.se/images?q=best%20ubuntu%20wallpaper%20ever
[04:12] <delire> larryone: ok.. can you get into a console though? eg with CTRL-ALT-F2
[04:12] <almimoni> is ubuntu relased or not.
[04:12] <guilhermee> ja ta bindo aqui o torrent a 56kb...
[04:12] <variant> almimoni: ubuntu has been released for years
[04:13] <almimoni> :)
[04:13] <almimoni> 7.04?
[04:13] <variant> almimoni: read the topic if you want to know about feisty
[04:13] <larryone> delire, I tried the consoles - but when the X hangs so does the whole system
[04:13] <jrib> invisiblepinkuni: right click on the ubuntu icon for the menu and then "Edit menus"
[04:13] <Bokeh> 7.04 is NOT released yet.
[04:13] <delire> almimoni: no, ignore slashdot and digg.
[04:13] <capiira> the isos are
[04:13] <spikeb> heh
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> almimoni: #ubuntu-release-party, read the /topic
[04:13] <zack> Slart: awesome, thank you
[04:13] <invisiblepinkuni> how do i add an something to the application menu?
[04:13] <guilhermee> ops... wrong channel
[04:13] <almimoni> thx
[04:13] <capiira> the isos on their server is dated 19.april
[04:13] <variant> invisiblepinkuni: right click it and select edit
[04:13] <larryone> delire, I know its a graphical problem because the machine doesnt hang if I leave the X alone and just go console based
[04:13] <variant> tdn: sorry mate. do you have any other os instaled?
[04:13] <blanky> guys where are the torrents for feisty!?!?!
[04:14] <variant> blanky: READ THE TOPIC
[04:14] <psst> my ubuntu installation keeps shutting down - how can I debug this?
[04:14] <IdleOne> !feisty
[04:14] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn
[04:14] <blanky> what?! damn it's still not out yet?! wtf, even slashdot said it's out yet, variant calm down dude
[04:14] <jash> How can feisty not be out when both slashdot and digg state it is? :)
[04:14] <linuxactivist> psst, describe what happens
[04:14] <blanky> jash: EXACTLY!
[04:14] <treylsu> trey@trey-laptop:~$ gksu update-manager
[04:14] <treylsu> warning: could not initiate dbus
[04:14] <treylsu> current dist not found in meta-release file
[04:14] <Linuturk> jash, because they jumped the gun
[04:14] <variant> blanky: you are the one with four ! and ?
[04:14] <treylsu> Will that stop me from updating
[04:14] <tuxub> hi, how can I enable the v4l kernel module in ubuntu?
[04:14] <Linuturk> jash, feisty is not out yet. Join #ubuntu-release-party for information
[04:14] <variant> !v4l > tuxub
[04:14] <IdleOne> well if slashdot and digg said so ....
[04:15] <blanky> variant: you take things too literally, perhaps you should get off the computer for a while
[04:15] <blanky> later guys!
[04:15] <Crazytom_> damn
[04:15] <capiira> hrrr but isos are out
[04:15] <tdn> variant, hmm... No. Not on this PC. Why?
[04:15] <FuzZy>  if a resize the partition on which windows is installed, will it affect the windows installation or the files on it(using partition manager)
[04:15] <FuzZy> cos i have 60 giga in C:/
[04:15] <invisiblepinkuni> jrib: variant : thank you :)
[04:15] <tuxub> variant, he doesn't know anything about v4l ;)
[04:15] <FuzZy> and i wanna resize to install ubuntu
[04:15] <fortitUs> hey everyone. is there any reason Ubuntu Live CD lags on my laptop?
[04:15] <psst> well - my X display blanks out, shows two error windows that indicate two of my eclipse-based apps have just died, then goes black again
[04:15] <larryone> blanky, it is impossible to get support related stuff done in here if everyone keeps spamming the channel with release related questions. variant and others are getting very frustrated because of this
[04:15] <variant> tdn: was wondering if it was showing up in *otherOS*
[04:15] <tdn> variant, I have tried using the newest Knoppix.   Make sure you have backups in windows and a defrag wouldn't hurt. I have done this 5 times now and it work every time.
[04:16] <psst> then the machine is shutting down
[04:16] <treylsu> you will just have less space
[04:16] <zack> @everybody getting Feisty... at least wait until Envy is updated...
[04:16] <tdn> variant, and downloading an image will take approx. 24 hours on this sucking ISP :(
[04:16] <PriceChild> !ohmy > fortitUs
[04:16] <moonlite> zack: what is envy?
[04:16] <bushwakko> please help, I can't get java 1.4 to show up in update-java-alternatives !
[04:16] <tdn> variant, ok. But thanks for your help anyway.
[04:16] <Seveas> zack, or just don't use nasty scripts like envy
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> !envy | moonlite
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <linuxactivist> psst, what are the eclipse apps?
[04:16] <variant> tdn: ye
[04:16] <variant> tdn: np
[04:16] <bushwakko> How do I need to install it for it to show up there
[04:16] <BrianBoyko> Fortitus: Mmm... no, but if you reboot you can choose a non-graphical install from the menu.  This will prevent the starting of Xserver and allow you to install right away.
[04:16] <linuxactivist> psst, what do the errors say
[04:16] <b0ng0> could someone help with with wireless in Feisty?
[04:16] <capiira> just because they don't updated their site yet does not mean that the final version cant be downloaded
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> b0ng0: Feisty support in #ubuntu+1 until it's released
[04:17] <fortitUs> thanks :D
[04:17] <psst> linuxactivist: Sametime 7.5 and IBM Workplace (i.e. Lotus Notes 7.5 in eclipse)
[04:17] <BrianBoyko> Fortitus: Alternatively, if your machine is already on the Xdesktop, you could double click the install icon, but I'm guessing it's taking a while for that to come up.
[04:17] <b0ng0> it is released btw
[04:17] <zack> moonlite, envy is an auto graphics installer
[04:17] <b0ng0> look at the main page
[04:17] <fortitUs> yes.
[04:17] <zack> seveas, i like it cause it just works
[04:17] <fortitUs> i tried on eft it took ages...
[04:17] <omaaaar> I have a question about launchpad. I used to translate ubuntu to my language, but in every ubuntu new release, I don't find the translations I did. Why?
[04:17] <fortitUs> is the non-graphical the same as the alternate CD?
[04:17] <linuxactivist> psst, do you know the errors or does anything show up in /var/log/messages
[04:17] <psst> the errors say "JVM terminated" just as if I had found the Java processes and issued a kill -9
[04:17] <apokryphos> ubotu: feisty
[04:17] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-release-party for the celebration of the soon-to-be-released 7.04 version of Ubuntu: The Feisty Fawn
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> fortitUs: Non-graphical installer, yes.  To get a non-graphical system, server.
[04:18] <moonlite> zack: i don't see why that is needed?
[04:18] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso, time to give in and accept the fact that the ubuntu release team has no clue but digg and slashdot are the all knowing websites of the universe
[04:18] <psst> messages - let me check
[04:18] <KillerBunny> Whats the difference between the "non-final" and the final ?
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: Heh.  Nope.  (and not here)
[04:18] <capiira> beta cd you mean ?
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> KillerBunny: #ubuntu-release-party please
[04:18] <fortitUs> yay great :) i'll just get the Alternate CD then
[04:18] <linuxactivist> psst, hmm.. anything in /var/log/messages
[04:18] <seaGo> feisty which version have of kvirc?
[04:18] <zack> moonlite: possibly due to annoyances fetching and downloading the latest ati/nvidia installs
[04:18] <BrianBoyko> Fortitus: I don't know - I haven't used the alternate CD, but you shouldn' tneed it.
[04:18] <BrianBoyko> Fortitus: You can do a non-graphical install from the regular ISO.
[04:18] <seaGo> feisty which version have of kvirc?
[04:19] <capiira> heh its so useless to type in here with 1585 people typing at same time  :)
[04:19] <IdleOne> seaGo, ask in the kunbuntu
[04:19] <laichzeit> feisty out!!!
[04:19] <seaGo> IdleOne kvirc is also
[04:19] <seaGo> for gnome
[04:19] <capiira> irc text scrolls like a ls -Rv on root
[04:19] <linuxactivist> cat /var/log/messages and see what you get... look for stuff around the time the system hangs
[04:19] <IdleOne> !info kvirc
[04:19] <ubotu> kvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.4-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2871 kB, installed size 8644 kB
[04:19] <IdleOne> there
[04:20] <IdleOne> !info kvirc feisty
[04:20] <variant> psst: one thing you can do is run this comman dinside screen while true; do ps aux > test.text ; sleep 1; done
[04:20] <outlier> Anybody else with edgy having problems with usb mice just quitting after a few minutes?
[04:20] <omaaaar> it's released
[04:20] <omaaaar> www.ubuntu.com
[04:20] <ubotu> kvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.4-5ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2949 kB, installed size 8868 kB
[04:20] <omaaaar> yeah
[04:20] <trelayne2> man the party has started
[04:20] <psst> linuxactivist: I see a msg from gconfd, saying: Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly
[04:20] <capiira> and where is the beer?
[04:20] <omaaaar> released
[04:20] <fortitUs> brian: thanks alot
[04:20] <PirateHead> PARTY!
[04:20] <dusty-work> Hey guys what is a good piece of software in Ubuntu (KDE) that I can use to burn .iso images to bootable disks cd and dvd?
[04:20] <variant> psst: that way the next time you reboot the last cpu useage and other info before the system hung will be in a file named test.text
[04:20] <omaaaar> happy feisty
[04:20] <trelayne2> forget the beer, here's some lemonade
[04:20] <strikerdmx> Hi
[04:20] <linuxactivist> psst, what about before that?
[04:20] <fortitUs> brian: think i will just get the desktop then :D
[04:20] <mrossow> PARTY!!!
[04:20] <Seveas> !no feisty is <reply> FEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party
[04:20] <moonlite> zack: ok ok. I did the install earlier this morning and it worked nicely. The restricted drivers manager popped up and let me chose proprietary nvidia drivers if i wanted to (which i wanted since i wanted to test compiz)
[04:20] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[04:20] <linuxactivist> dusty-work, krb
[04:20] <moonlite> zack: all worked like a charm.
[04:21] <fabiim> how to upgrade to feisty ?
[04:21] <linuxactivist> !krb
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <spikeb> !upgrade | fabiim
[04:21] <ubotu> fabiim: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:21] <variant> psst: did you see that?
[04:21] <linuxactivist> dusty-work, or something like that
[04:21] <fabiim> tls
[04:21] <fabiim> tks
[04:21] <plb> almost 1600 people in here!
[04:21] <psst> linuxactivist: there's a "-- MARK --" but nothing for 30 mins before that
[04:21] <poningru> holy cow
[04:22] <prower> What do you know, the 15th ISO's were final ;>
[04:22] <fami> lol @party chanel
[04:22] <xairro> #ubuntu-release-party
[04:22] <zack> moonlite: good for you :)     personally envy has saved my ass a couple of times... like when my computer froze and caused nvidia glx to die on me, and after hours of trying i finally opened a terminal, typed in 'envy' and it did its stuff straight away..
[04:22] <kuba_> i've got a question: when i copy file using 'cp' what option i have to type if i want to see a status of copying(how much time remaining)???
[04:22] <prower> Seveas: Turns out I was right ;>
[04:22] <linuxactivist> the MARKs are just a check mark spot in the logs... letting you know that they are working, but nothing has happened.
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> doh, sorry Seveas
[04:22] <psst> is there a shutdown-now key sequence?
[04:22] <RichiH> heh
[04:22] <Seveas> grr :p
[04:22] <zack> moonlite: of course, didn't realise it was nvidia - just gave me a dbus error
[04:22] <Bicchi> Hurray :)
[04:22] <hoagie> feisty is out!
[04:22] <variant> yay, feisty is here :)
[04:22] <teun> \o/
[04:22] <poningru> guys please read the topic
[04:23] <treylsu> is update via update manger working yet
[04:23] <Amaranth> And so it begins
[04:23] <fami> good news, i ever read today
[04:23] <variant> poningru: feisty IS out now :)
[04:23] <dusty-work> Anyone?
[04:23] <poningru> dusty-work: whatsup?
[04:23] <Lbawinowns_> So is it out?
[04:23] <fami> tonyyarusso: yes, looks nice. abit expensive @system76
[04:23] <variant> poningru: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[04:23] <Amaranth> Battle stations! Red alert! Incoming upgrade issues!
[04:23] <variant> :D
[04:23] <poningru> variant: the party is elsewhere
[04:23] <poningru> not here
[04:23] <Daviey> Is it out yet?
[04:23] <variant> poningru: true true
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> Daviey: /topic
[04:23] <linuxactivist> psst, hmm. can you launch your eclipse apps from the command line and redirect the errors to a file...
[04:23] <virdiq> yes
[04:23] <virdiq> #ubuntu-release-party has gone mad
[04:23] <prower> variant: The torrents that were uploaded pointed to the 15th ISO's, but everyone in here vehemently denied they were final, haha
[04:23] <EmxBA> what happened to #ubuntu?
[04:23] <hoagie> it's out guys check ubuntu.com
[04:23] <poningru> linuxactivist: use '> filename'
[04:23] <prower> I finished downloading it a while ago
[04:24] <linuxactivist> psst, I need to look up how to do that unless someone else here knows off the top of their head... I don't know if java is different
[04:24] <stefg> !Feisty
[04:24] <virdiq> #ubuntu-release-party is ~20 comments/second all saying "congrats" and "its out!"
[04:24] <psst> linuxactivist: there's not much point - they will just say that the JVM was terminated
[04:24] <strikerdmx> dos anybody know why "grub" don't load my windows?
[04:24] <ubotu> FEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party
[04:24] <guilhermee> released: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[04:24] <IdleOne> :( was hoping that a dist-upgrade was going to bring in a few packages but nothing :(