[07:25] <Salty> im hoping someone can help me; im running Ubuntu from LiveCD and am trying to install to an External HD - i cant find Espresso, anyone have any ideas/
[07:25] <Sivik> download the image, burn, and install
[07:25] <^thehatsrule^> cyphase: use a similar theme
[07:25] <cyphase> hmm
[07:25] <wendigo> cyphase: KDE does that automatically for you
[07:25] <cyphase> i'm in gnome
[07:25] <imbrandon> Sivik:  not exactly , macbooks do some funny efi stuff he will need bootcamp
[07:25] <cyphase> i know there's a package to make gtk look like qt, but nt ice versa
[07:25] <cyphase> not vice*
[07:26] <protocol1> I thought about getting a ibook
[07:26] <Sivik> imbrandon: even the new intel macs?
[07:26] <wendigo> cyphase: well, KDE forces gtk apps to use qt themes, so ye, there probably is a way
[07:26] <imbrandon> cyphase: you could always install "klearlooks" it looks like the "clearlooks" for gnome
[07:26] <Sivik> imbrandon: i have a friend with a mini and he just installed the ppc version of ubuntu without a problem
[07:26] <imbrandon> Sivik: yes
[07:26] <Sivik> imbrandon: then whats the problem with the new intels and the regular i386
[07:27] <yggdrasil> how do i copy multiple folders that have subfolders ?thru cmd line. ??
[07:27] <imbrandon> Sivik: the macos needs direct access to the efi stuff
[07:27] <Sivik> ah
[07:27] <^thehatsrule^> yggdrasil: cp -R
[07:27] <jroes> yggdrasil: cp -R
[07:27] <jroes> damn, beat
[07:27] <yggdrasil> thnks
[07:27] <^thehatsrule^> heh ;p
[07:27] <Sivik> why don't i have 3d acc when i have the correct info in fglrxinfo?
[07:27] <overrider> imbrandon, is dapper version 5.10?
[07:27] <jroes> 5.10 is breezy
[07:27] <imbrandon> no that breezy
[07:28] <cyphase> i was thinking something like making qt apps call gtk
[07:28] <imbrandon> dapper is 6.06
[07:28] <overrider> ah ok, its still beta
[07:28] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: what's the render output in fglrxinfo?
[07:28] <imbrandon> overrider: yea buts its very stable i've been running it for months
[07:28] <protocol1> is there a way to fix the jittery play on some mplayer streams?
[07:28] <mDot> video plays back really poorly after installing xgl/compiz any ideas?
[07:28] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: what is the render output
[07:29] <wendigo> sivik: use glrxinfo | grep direct to determine if you have 3d accelleration enabled
[07:29] <AnAnt> I have a problem in Ubuntu, when I set the LANG=en_US , I get this error (http://pastebin.com/702139)
[07:29] <protocol1> i like play streams from cnn and other windows media sites and the playback is jittery
[07:29] <MistaED> cyphase: best theme by far for Qt/KDE to make it look like gnome is QtCurve with the freecurve theme
[07:29] <wendigo> sivik: use glxinfo | grep direct *
[07:29] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: it should have like Opengl Renderer String: <paste this info here>
[07:29] <MistaED> as well as a dapper colour scheme
[07:29] <Sivik> direct rendering yet
[07:30] <wendigo> sivik: then it's enabled
[07:30] <cyphase> MistaED, i know, but i'm looking for something that makes qt call gtk to render
[07:30] <Sivik> RADEON XPRESS 200M Series SW TCL Generic
[07:30] <Sivik> but when i run the glxgears, i don't get over 1000 fps
[07:30] <Sivik> just around 910
[07:30] <^thehatsrule^> oh heh thats fine.
[07:30] <^thehatsrule^> integrated chips arent known to be running well under anything but windows.
[07:30] <Sivik> let me install and run ppracer
[07:30] <wendigo> sivik: upgrade your driver to the latest version
[07:31] <^thehatsrule^> running fgl_glxgears is the real test
[07:31] <Sivik> the ati driver?  i just installed the newest one
[07:31] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: i have to install it first
[07:31] <wendigo> sivik: check the ati website and see if it's the lastest driver
[07:31] <^thehatsrule^> 8.24?
[07:32] <Sivik> wendigo: i downloaded it today
[07:32] <Sivik> 8.24.8
[07:32] <wendigo> sivik: from the ati site?
[07:32] <^thehatsrule^> but like i said, integrated chipsets arent very good anyhow :/
[07:33] <wendigo> sivik: it could just be your card/chipset then
[07:33] <Sivik> wendigo: how do i tell if its working right or not
[07:33] <Sivik> the fgl-glxgears doesn't work right
[07:33] <wendigo> sivik: if you get 1k fps it's working right
[07:34] <Sivik> wendigo: i'm getting around 910
[07:34] <wendigo> sivik: thats still higher than you would get without acceleration
[07:34] <Sivik> ok
[07:35] <Sivik> but whats a good way to test it with a game?
[07:35] <steel> when i'm in the recovery console for windows it asks me which windows installation i would like to log into, what do i type?
[07:35] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: maybe `cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE)`
[07:36] <Sivik> ok
[07:36] <wendigo> sivik: a good test is to run mplayer using -vo xv as the video output driver
[07:36] <^thehatsrule^> just to double check for errors... if there was..
[07:36] <SpongeBob> hi everyone!
[07:37] <Sivik> what is a drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns - 1023?
[07:37] <wendigo> direct rendering manager
[07:37] <Sivik> does that have to do with the gl stuff?
[07:37] <Sivik> ok
[07:37] <^thehatsrule^> oh thats ok..
[07:37] <i3dmaster> how to apply a new kdm theme?
[07:38] <Sivik> no matching visual for __GLcontextMode with visual class = 1 (32774), nplanes = 24
[07:38] <wendigo> Sivik: you might also want to check your xorg.conf to make sure it's setup right
[07:38] <Sivik> ok
[07:38] <Sivik> how do i know if its set correctly or not
[07:39] <wendigo> Sivik: well, fglrxconfig can be used to reconfigure it for you
[07:39] <Sivik> the OpenGLOverlay is off
[07:39] <Sivik> would it work right if i turned that on?
[07:40] <wendigo> Sivik: na, you don't need that
[07:40] <Sivik> ok
[07:40] <Sivik> then what else should it say?
[07:40] <wendigo> Sivik: make sure videooverlay is on though
[07:40] <Sivik> "VideoOverlay" "on"
[07:41] <wendigo> Sivik: and you have a DRI section with a mode of 0666
[07:41] <Sivik> yes
[07:42] <^thehatsrule^> shouldnt use fglrxconfig anymore
[07:42] <^thehatsrule^> its aticonfig
[07:42] <wendigo> Sivik: then the only thing you can do is either live with it, or run fglrxconfig and see if it fixes it
[07:42] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: where?
[07:43] <Sivik> how do i run aticonfig?
[07:43] <jtd_> does anyone know how I can reconfigure Apache in Dapper to accomodate UserDirs?
[07:44] <wendigo> Sivik: fglrxconfig, though you should back up your current xorg.conf
[07:44] <^thehatsrule^> oh, you dont have aticonfig?
[07:44] <Sivik> yea, i don't have aticonfig
[07:44] <^thehatsrule^> interesting.
[07:44] <Sivik> i do, but it runs in terminal and not as a gui
[07:45] <Sivik> window*
[07:45] <^thehatsrule^> yea its cli only
[07:45] <Sivik> ok
[07:45] <KonphuzeD> any suggestions for an enhanced image viewer that will jump to next file , crop and such ??
[07:45] <^thehatsrule^> sudo aticonfig --ini -f
[07:45] <wendigo> Sivik: you could also run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:45] <^thehatsrule^> oh if you used Ubuntu packages
[07:45] <^thehatsrule^> follow wendigo's then.
[07:46] <Sivik> the first screen talks about autodetect
[07:46] <Sivik> do i want to do that?
[07:46] <^thehatsrule^> just dont use fglrxconfig anymore ;p
[07:46] <jtmoney> is there any advantage to running 6.06 beta 2 over 5.10 with using apt-get to install kubuntu-desktop?
[07:46] <Sivik> ok
[07:47] <Sivik> do i use the fglrx or the ati for the video card driver?
[07:47] <twidget> is there a Bible scholar in the channel, by chance?
 Sivik: you could also run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <-- you might want to do that
[07:47] <Sivik> i'm doing that now
[07:48] <wendigo> ^thehatsrule^: thats not true, if you know what you are doing running fglrxconfig is fine
[07:48] <^thehatsrule^> fglrxconfig reconstructs your whole xorg.conf, which is NOT recommended
[07:48] <Sivik> ok
[07:48] <Sivik> i just ran the aticonfig
[07:48] <Sivik> now i need to restart the session correct
[07:48] <rama3i> hello all
[07:48] <^thehatsrule^> aticonfig however, just adds its own sections to the x conf leaving the others untouched
[07:49] <^thehatsrule^> yea
[07:49] <Sivik> ok
[07:49] <Sivik> just log out and then back in?
[07:49] <^thehatsrule^> err... /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:49] <Sivik> oh
[07:49] <wendigo> ^thehatsrule^: like i said if you know what you are doing, it's not a problem
[07:50] <Sivik> gdm looks kinda like something that could be an abrevation for a dirty word
[07:50] <^thehatsrule^> wendigo: perhaps, everyone to his opinion, but a lot of ppl dont know what theyre doing.
[07:50] <Sivik> not running gnome
[07:50] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: lol, i guess you could also force it by ctrl+alt+bkspace
[07:50] <Sivik> didn't know that would work
[07:50] <^thehatsrule^> ah, then the usual then.
[07:50] <mythica> something screwey with my Xserver
[07:50] <rama3i> hey, does anyone have problem with ATI display driver?
[07:50] <Sivik> rama3i: thats what i'm working on
[07:50] <mythica> everytime i log on i have to run "xhost local:" as non root
[07:51] <AlmtyBob> I'm new to linux and don't really know where files are supposed to go...I downloaded the latest ivtv driver tarball to my desktop, where should I put it before I unpack it?
[07:51] <Sivik> AlmtyBob:what are you trying to do?
[07:51] <eobanb> what's ivtv
[07:51] <AlmtyBob> install the IVTV drivers for mythtv according to this howto
[07:51] <Sivik> what is ivtv?
[07:51] <lomonteiro> Hi, when i try access 'System' -> Adm -> Printers -> The ubuntu show me a error: the server cups don't contact. O servidor CUPS no pode ser contactado.
[07:51] <AlmtyBob> it just says to download then unpack them
[07:51] <rama3i> coz i got one. i can't use ati for my xorg display driver. even using fglrx xorg still crash. anyone can help?
[07:51] <AlmtyBob> drivers for TV capture cards
[07:52] <AlmtyBob> it wants me to cd ivtv-*/driver and then sudo make and sudo install once I unpack them
[07:52] <Sivik> rama3i: go to ubuntu-xgl
[07:52] <AlmtyBob> it being the howto I'm reading on MythTV
[07:52] <^thehatsrule^> xgl? o.o
[07:52] <rama3i> xgl?
[07:53] <mDot> guys i need help, after following these instructions http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267 i was able to get xgl/compiz working. but now video playback is horrible
[07:53] <steel> agh, what do i have to type to fix my master boot record again?
[07:53] <^thehatsrule^> wendigo: well fglrxconfig will not be updated anymore, so its better not to use it anymore, anyways.
[07:54] <steel> oh it's 'fdisk /fixmbr'
[07:54] <Sivik> yeap
[07:54] <lomonteiro> Hi, when i try access 'System' -> Adm -> Printers -> The ubuntu show me a error: the server cups don't contact. anybody help me ?
[07:54] <steel> but it says it's not a recognized command
[07:55] <Sivik> what was the command to use the gears thingy to get the fps
[07:55] <imbrandon> steel:  thats a windows fdisk command, whats wrong with your mbr ?
[07:55] <steel> grub messed it up
[07:55] <^thehatsrule^> fgl_glxgears Sivik
[07:55] <Sivik> the fgl doesn't work
[07:55] <wendigo> ^thehatsrule^: no other option but to use it in gentoo :P
[07:55] <^thehatsrule^> oh right.
[07:55] <Sivik> its just glxgears and then soemthin else
[07:55] <Sivik> its like -p or something to get the fps
[07:55] <imbrandon> steel:  grub dosent sit totaly in the mbr, whats wrong with it exactly >?
[07:56] <^thehatsrule^> wendigo: heh, well im guessing that'll change soon.
[07:56] <steel> i removed the hard drive with ubuntu on it and grub reads the 'error 21' when it starts to load
[07:56] <imbrandon> there are alot of diffrent command to fix it steel depending on what its doing
[07:56] <Sivik> imbrandon: he wants to reinstall the mbr for windows
[07:56] <steel> i do?
[07:56] <steel> i just want it to boot normally
[07:56] <Sivik> you have to reinstall the windows mbr booter
[07:56] <imbrandon> ahhh thats becouse it cant find the /boot/grub/ dir , thats ok what other  os do you have loaded on that box ?
[07:56] <steel> windows xp pro
[07:57] <lomonteiro> Hi, when i try in console: cupsd, i receive this message -> cupsd: Child exited with status 13!
[07:57] <imbrandon> ok steel boot from a win xp cd and goto the recovery console and run , there will be a command there thats "fixmbr"
[07:57] <Sivik> hes already there imbrandon
[07:57] <Sivik> he told you as well as i told you
[07:57] <imbrandon> type fixmbr
[07:58] <HugLeo> I placed kernel 2,4 in ubuntu Breezy, but it does not initiate gnome. He needs to reconfigure xorg?
[07:58] <steel> should i ignore the giant warning it gives me?
[07:58] <imbrandon> yes
[07:58] <steel> ok
[07:58] <wendigo> steel: did you do fdisk /fixmbr and fixboot in the recovery console ?
[07:58] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: now, when i try to run glxgears, i get "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[07:58] <Sivik> wtf does that mean?
[07:58] <fid_> quick question, I'm not using ubuntu i'm using xebian but I figured someone in here could help
[07:58] <steel> it said fdisk wasnt a command
[07:58] <steel> lemme restart
[07:59] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: i doubt you have dri initialized
[07:59] <wendigo> steel: fixmbr then will probably be it
[07:59] <steel> ok i tried it
[07:59] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: fglrxinfo?
[07:59] <fid_> when I run gedit ircd.conf I get a Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: what does that mean?
[07:59] <imbrandon> fid_: maybe , ask away, we can only tell you the ubuntu way you will have to adapt it to other os's
[07:59] <Sivik> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[07:59] <imbrandon> fid_:  it means you are running gedit as root
[08:00] <steel> woooh! it worked
[08:00] <steel> thanks a bunch everyone
[08:00] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:00] <fid_> right
[08:00] <fid_> but I don't have permissions to open the file otherwise
[08:00] <fid_> i don't get it
[08:00] <fid_> haha
[08:00] <imbrandon> fid_: you want to run it as a regular user but with the suso command , that will fix that
[08:00] <HugLeo> I placed kernel 2.4.x in ubuntu Breezy but it does not initiate gnome. Needs to reconfigure xorg?
[08:00] <myleftfoot> can anyone help me setup my pptpconfig? why is it so hard to configure under linux.... its so easy in macosx and windblows
[08:00] <Sivik> HugLeo: what kind of video card?
[08:00] <imbrandon> HugLeo:  please dont repeat , if some one knew they would awnser
[08:01] <HugLeo> Sivik: SIS
[08:01] <Sivik> HugLeo: hell if i know
[08:01] <Sivik> HugLeo: if you said ati, i was goin to tell you to change it to vesa
[08:01] <fid_> hmmm
[08:01] <eobanb> my friend has ubuntu installed on a latitude and it seems to hang on boot with 'Configuring network interfaces...'
[08:01] <Sivik> HugLeo: hell, try that anyways
[08:01] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: `cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep (EE)`
[08:01] <imbrandon> fid_: you need to run "sudo gedit <filename>" as the user that logged onto xwindows
[08:02] <firebird619> Is there a way to find out what settings (ex: sound settings) a program changed during install?
[08:03] <fid_> hmmm
[08:03] <HugLeo> Sivik: But as I can reconfigure?
[08:03] <fid_> this is frustrating
[08:03] <fid_> it wont let me sudo gedit the file either
[08:03] <fid_> how do i change the files permissions on that folder from the bash?
[08:03] <fid_> perhaps that would be a good start
[08:03] <tuxmaniac> fid_: chmod
[08:04] <imbrandon> fid_: hwat message do you get with sudo ?
[08:04] <nocturn> Morning all
[08:05] <nocturn> I did an upgrade to Dapper, and my gnome-volume-manager no longer starts
[08:05] <imbrandon> nocturn: try #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <nocturn> thanks imbrandon
[08:06] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: what is the (EE) for?
[08:06] <wendigo> error
[08:06] <^thehatsrule^> outputs any errors found in the x log
[08:06] <Sivik> no, it bitches at me about the unexpected (
[08:06] <fid_> ugh..
[08:06] <fid_> well thanks for trying to help imbrandon
[08:06] <fid_> not sure what the malfunction is here
[08:07] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: `cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep -e '(EE)'`
[08:07] <Sivik> unexpected token `EE
[08:07] <Sivik> just goes to >
[08:07] <wendigo> fid_: whats the problem?
[08:07] <^thehatsrule^> heh Sivik, dont include the quotes then.
[08:07] <lomonteiro> cupsd: Child exited with status 13!
[08:07] <fid_> wendigo its not a ubuntu problem, i'm running xebian on my xbox and i figured since they are both based off debian someone in here might be able to help
[08:07] <lomonteiro>  What this is ?
[08:07] <fid_> however, I'm trying set up ircd
[08:08] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep -e '(EE)'
[08:08] <fid_> but the folder permissions are set so that I can only edit them as root
[08:08] <wendigo> fid_: chmod 777 -R <folder>
[08:08] <fid_> but when i run gedit from the bash as root i get the gtk-warning error
[08:08] <imbrandon> fid_:  try "sudo nano <filename>"
[08:08] <Flannel> fid_: gksudo for graphical thigs.
[08:09] <luke> can I play the demo of UT2004 on my amd64 machine?
[08:09] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13555
[08:09] <imbrandon> luke:  should be able to'
[08:09] <^thehatsrule^> luke: sure, as long as you have 3d set up
[08:09] <Sivik> luke: use wine
[08:10] <^thehatsrule^> lol dont
[08:10] <^thehatsrule^> there linux native binaries for all UT's
[08:10] <^thehatsrule^> there are*
[08:10] <Sivik> didn't know that
[08:10] <luke> ^thehatsrule^, how do u setup 3d?
[08:10] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: did you see the errors
[08:10] <Sivik> luke: what kind of card?
[08:10] <luke> Nvidia - already got drivers
[08:10] <^thehatsrule^> heh, its even on the ut2k* cd's
[08:10] <fid_> hmmm
[08:10] <^thehatsrule^> but then the demo is there for downloading
[08:10] <Sivik> i don't have ut2k so i didn't know that it had the linux on it
[08:11] <wendigo> fid_: if that doesn't work try: chown -R <user> <folder>
[08:11] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: did you red that page?
[08:11] <Sivik> read*
[08:11] <majd> can i install kde and choose to boot into it from login screen or does it have to replace gnome?
[08:11] <Flannel> wendigo: he just wants to edit them, not change their permissions
[08:11] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: yea, problem is no dri
[08:11] <Sivik> and what is dri?
[08:11] <kingLear> I have a problem with Webhttrack
[08:11] <Sivik> is that in the xorg.conf?
[08:11] <^thehatsrule^> direct rendering interfae
[08:11] <^thehatsrule^> face*
[08:11] <kingLear> It wont open the Browser window when I start it,
[08:12] <Sivik> can i fix that in xorg.conf?
[08:12] <wendigo> flannel: yes, he wants to edit them as a normal user rather than root, unless i'm missunderstanding him
[08:12] <kingLear> I am using Firefox 1.5 on Ubuntu 5.10
[08:12] <luke> have u guys seen the NWN2 movies? looks awesome..
[08:12] <HugLeo> I installed the modem hsp56mr using driver smartlink but the connection falls after some time. It would be incompatibility with kernel?
[08:12] <Flannel> wendigo: no, he just wants to edit them, and was mentioning the gtk errors when you sudo [graphical editor]
[08:12] <Rilchy> i am a new use of unix system
[08:12] <Sivik> the DRI says mode 0666
[08:12] <Sivik> Rilchy: this is linux, not unix
[08:12] <Rilchy> ok
[08:13] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: do i need to change the BIOS settings?
[08:13] <Sivik> maybe
[08:13] <Rilchy> someone speak french
[08:13] <myleftfoot> bonjour
[08:13] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: no, you dont
[08:13] <fid_> gkedit command not found
[08:13] <Rilchy> comment va
[08:13] <wendigo> flannel: <fid_> but I don't have permissions to open the file otherwise
[08:13] <orbin> !fr
[08:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:13] <gina> un peu
[08:13] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: then what do i need to do?
[08:13] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: could you paste your whole x log perhaps?
[08:13] <Sivik> sure
[08:14] <myleftfoot> ouin vien sur #ubuntu-fr
[08:14] <Flannel> wendigo: he needed "gksudo" not just plain sudo.  Changing permissions haphazardly can cause problems.
[08:14] <majd> can i install kde and choose to boot into it from login screen or does it have to replace gnome?
[08:14] <Rilchy> coment me logger sur hotmail
[08:14] <fid_> hahaha
[08:14] <kingLear> majd yes,
[08:15] <fid_> anyone want root access to an xbox where they can feel free to install and setup ircd for me
[08:15] <fid_> hahahaha
[08:15] <Sivik> i can't get it all, but i will give you what i can get
[08:15] <Sivik> 13556
[08:15] <majd> cool
[08:15] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: 13556
[08:15] <HugLeo> I installed the modem hsp56mr using driver smartlink but the connection falls after some time. It would be incompatibility with kernel?
[08:15] <^thehatsrule^> k
[08:15] <myleftfoot> Rilchy, tu es pas dans le bon chanal.. vas sur le chanal $ubuntu-fr
[08:15] <Rilchy> c'est pas super sympa ici
[08:15] <Sivik> actually, with gedit, i can get it all
[08:16] <kingLear> did you get the URL, majd?
[08:16] <wendigo> flannel: so tell him how to fix his problem rather than arguing with me
[08:16] <gina> rilchy... oui, c'est unix, t'avais raison
[08:16] <i3dmaster> how to add a kdm theme?
[08:16] <majd> kingLear, oh missed it,sorry
[08:16] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: heh, i just use vi ;p
[08:16] <Sivik> ok
[08:16] <kingLear> check you server window
[08:16] <^thehatsrule^> but doesnt matter.
[08:16] <Sivik> 13557 for the whole thing
[08:16] <mDot> this is getting frustrating
[08:16] <deepwoodz> I'm using opera and it will not play sound for youtube videos or anything else that has to deal with flash
[08:16] <kingLear> i sent you a notice , majd
[08:16] <fidxbox> yay for being in the same channel with 2 machines haha
[08:17] <Flannel> wendigo: I did, 10 seconds after your original chmod.  Just wanted to let you know about chmod.
[08:17] <majd> eh, didn't pick it up
[08:17] <Sivik> actually, try 13558
[08:17] <Sivik> for the whole thing
[08:17] <orbin> ubotu: tell deepwoodz about flash
[08:17] <Tarantulafudge> I remember when I didn't know what chmod/chown was
[08:17] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: what do you think the problem is
[08:18] <fidxbox> how do i register my ip to the server?
[08:18] <fidxbox> err..
[08:18] <Sivik> fidxbox: what do you mean?
[08:18] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: Ubuntu's packages support Xorg7?
[08:18] <fidxbox> haha
[08:18] <fidxbox> i realize how stupid that sounded in retrospect
[08:18] <Sivik> ^thehatsrule^: let me look
[08:18] <imbrandon> Flannel: not exactly becouse not all distros rely on gksu or have it installed and you can sudo many things such as nano command line just fine ;0
[08:19] <fidxbox> i mean, how can I register so i can send private messages
[08:19] <Sivik> hell if i know
[08:19] <roryy> !register
[08:19] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:19] <^thehatsrule^> Sivik: actually it shouldnt matter
[08:19] <fidxbox> !register
[08:19] <fidxbox> ?
[08:19] <simonp_> Ive got a weird problem. I use ssh -X to port forward X display, but when i type "firefox" in the remote shell, my local firefox app is opened!
[08:19] <roryy> fidxbox: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:19] <imbrandon> fidxbox: "/msg nickserv register <password>"
[08:19] <|lostbyte|> fidxbox: /msg chanserv register help
[08:20] <rendi> help
[08:20] <rendi> help me
[08:20] <HugLeo> I installed the modem hsp56mr using driver smartlink but the connection falls after some time. In kernel 2.4x functioned but not in kernel 2,6 :(. How I can configure the modem so that the InterNet does not fall more?
[08:20] <rendi> how to setup smtp server ??
[08:20] <Flannel> imbrandon: huh? oh.  WEll yeah, sudo nano would be fine, but that would put him into text mode.  And Xubuntu does use gksu.
[08:20] <rendi> can help me sir
[08:20] <imbrandon> Flannel: he is on xebain not xubuntu ;)
[08:20] <|lostbyte|> darn.. fidxbox do imbrandon command.
[08:21] <rendi> hello
[08:21] <imbrandon> Flannel:  that and like me ksudo is better ( kde ) heheh :0
[08:21] <roryy> rendi: have you looked on the wiki?
[08:22] <rendi> roryy where is the site for wiki ?
[08:22] <Flannel> imbrandon: erm, I meant xebian.  just misspoke
[08:22] <roryy> rendi: one of these may be useful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MailServer or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupEmailHowto
[08:22] <claymore666> my god unbuntu is BEAUTIFUL
[08:22] <claymore666> :)
[08:22] <roryy> rendi: wiki 'front page' is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <rendi> ty
[08:23] <roryy> rendi: if you don't understand anything on the wiki, please ask here
[08:23] <simonp_> Anyone used ssh -X ?  Or something wrong with my eyes?
[08:24] <HugLeo> I installed the modem hsp56mr using driver smartlink but the connection falls after some time. In kernel 2.4x functioned but not in kernel 2,6 :(. How I can configure the modem so that the InterNet does not fall more?
[08:24] <imbrandon> simonp_: when you forward the x packets fromt he remote server via -X yes thats normal for your xserver to open fireforx when you type it on the remote console
[08:24] <rendi> roryy how to adduser on my smtp ?
[08:24] <czr> does anyone know whether setting up a i386 / x86-64 crosscompilation toolchain is difficult under ubuntu? (whether there are any ready-made packages for this). mainly to build a kernel, have the other arch libc and build sw that uses libc (no other libs)?
[08:24] <roryy> rendi: where is this mentioned?
[08:25] <|lostbyte|> rendi: user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:25] <rendi> just type user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>??
[08:25] <simonp_> imbrandon, why that possible? i can open the remote nautilus
[08:25] <clif> New ubunto user here. just installed it on my compaq presario 1200 laptop works great but version 5.04 does not want to use my PS2 style mouse it wants to use the touch pad built in to the laptop how can I make it use the external mouse?
[08:25] <czr> simonp_, the script that starts firefox is from mozilla and it tries to outsmart you
[08:25] <|lostbyte|> rendi: You just want to send a mail with that user name, right ?
[08:26] <Flannel> clif: if you just installed, why'd you install 5.04?
[08:26] <simonp_> czr, sort of some hidden communication?
[08:26] <eobanb> clif, perhaps you should update to 5.10, or 6.06?
[08:26] <czr> simonp_, just tries to "optimize" things a bit too much :-)
[08:26] <Flannel> eobanb: not 6.06, it's still beta.
[08:26] <clif> it was what I had here just got 5.04 yesterday I'm dling 5.10 right now
[08:27] <czr> it will find out whether firefox is already running on your X screen and if there is, it will ask it to spawn another window. x screen being your x server in this case. pita really.
[08:27] <simonp_> czr, it seems crazy idea......
[08:27] <Flannel> clif: you don't need to download the whole thing, you can upgrade through the OS.
[08:27] <rendi> # smtp
[08:27] <mDot> clif, why not dist-updrade?
[08:27] <rendi> bash: smtp: command not found
[08:27] <rendi> muakz:/home/admin#
[08:27] <rendi> help
[08:27] <simonp_> can i bypass that?
[08:27] <czr> simonp_, agreed. one of my clients ran against this and were debugged it for an hour or two before reaching the conclusion that it is broken by design :-)
[08:28] <czr> simonp_, probably by hacking at the script that starts firefox but I didn't do it
[08:28] <clif> I ran the upgrade but it said that it couldn't upgrade online... so I got my PC getting the ISO file
[08:28] <simonp_> wow
[08:28] <simonp_> czr, thx a lot
[08:28] <deepwoodz> Ok i tried the steps in the wiki but it didnt help. I'm still have no audio in flash videos
[08:28] <Flannel> clif: interesting.  You followed the instructions on upgrading to 5.10?
[08:29] <czr> simonp_, thank imbrandon, I totally forgot that firefox was braindamaged :-)
[08:29] <rendi> hello
[08:29] <rendi> how to add my user smtp
[08:29] <roryy> rendi: have you read the wiki yet ?
[08:30] <czr> btw, what was the ubuntu-dev channel?
[08:30] <r0xoR> how do i find out what kind of "hardware sensors" i have in my hardware?
[08:30] <rendi> i'm lost that site
[08:30] <r0xoR> lspci doesn't have anything about this...
[08:30] <czr> r0xoR, run sensors-detect
[08:30] <r0xoR> i'm recompiling my kernel and i'm in make menuconfig right now
[08:30] <roryy> czr: #ubuntu-devel, i think
[08:30] <r0xoR> czr, sweet, k
[08:31] <czr> roryy, thx
[08:31] <r0xoR> czr, don't have that app
[08:31] <r0xoR> czr, apt-get install sensors-detect didn't work either
[08:31] <clif> I let it do every thing it could do before it said it couldn't update any more this is what it said A new release with the codename 'breezy' is available. Please see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ for upgrade instructions.
[08:31] <czr> r0xoR, somes in lm-sensors package I believe
[08:32] <eobanb> r0xoR, yeah try lmsensors
[08:32] <eobanb> or whatever it is
[08:32] <czr> apt-cache search sensors
[08:33] <czr> sometimes it's possible to detect which i2c-bus driver to use based on lspci output, but sometimes not (unfortunately)
[08:33] <czr> however, for the sensor drivers, it is not possible to detect from pci-stuff
[08:33] <czr> since they're not connected to pci, but to smbus or i2c bus which is behind some chip which is connected to pci (you need the i2c-bus driver for that)
[08:34] <czr> sensors-detect will do its best to find and poke around your system in order to print out the stuff that you need
[08:34] <czr> and ymmv based on mobo anyway. most cheaper mobos will have 'problems'
[08:36] <edison> hi there
[08:36] <vladuz976> anybody know what the primary slave corresponds to in grub? is it (hd0,1) ?
[08:36] <claymore666> what is wine under when i want to add it via add applications
[08:36] <edison> is there a way to change a file permission by terminal???
[08:36] <lampshade> chmod
[08:36] <linlin> How can I set ubuntu to use a real, resolveable DNS hostname on my LAN. All my ubuntu machines get DHCP addresses, but because none of them have proper hostanme settings, they do not show up in my router's DHCP lease table, and I cant conect to them with putty using the hostname.
[08:37] <czr> vladuz976, hd0 = bios drive 0x80 which will be the first boot selected device in most bioses. hd1 might be the second one
[08:37] <czr> vladuz976, will depend on bios
[08:37] <linlin> My windows machine works fine like this, so I dont see a need to setup any more hardware or software than I already have going.
[08:37] <czr> hd0,1 = first partition on hd0
[08:37] <edison> is there a way to change a file permission by terminal???
[08:38] <lampshade> edison, chmod
[08:38] <czr> edison, man chmod
[08:38] <claymore666> what windows emulator does unbuntu use? :/
[08:38] <edison> but how do i use chmod??
[08:38] <vladuz976> czr: and first partition on primary slave is then hd1,1 ?
[08:38] <Flannel> claymore666: ubuntu doesn't use any windows emulator.
[08:38] <tritium> edison: the manpage will tell you
[08:38] <edison> cause im new using ubuntu
[08:38] <czr> vladuz976, probably. will depend on your bios
[08:38] <edison> ok thanks for the help everyone
[08:38] <lampshade> edison, read the man page a couple of times, honestly the easiest way to figure it out I think
[08:38] <claymore666> thanks Flannel, is there any possible way to run windows apps at all via ubuntu ?
[08:38] <tritium> edison: you can also right-click, and change permissions that way
[08:38] <Flannel> claymore666: yeah, it's called "wine"
[08:39] <claymore666> :P
[08:39] <czr> vladuz976, problem being that grub only knows about stuff that bios tells it. and this might be different from linux ide driver
[08:39] <edison> i try that obe but didnt work
[08:39] <edison> one
[08:39] <claymore666> where can i get it? ;/
[08:39] <Flannel> claymore666: no no, a program called wine
[08:39] <claymore666> i am trying add applications but it doesnt find it
[08:39] <edison> right click didnt work for me lol
[08:39] <tritium> edison: it works
[08:39] <lampshade> edison, why didn't it work, what errors?  Etc
[08:40] <tritium> edison: unless you don't have the necessary permissions to modify them in the first place
[08:40] <Flannel> claymore666: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine
[08:40] <edison> cause i try to change permission for user file
[08:40] <czr> edison, right clicking in the file manager obviously, not the terminal emulator
[08:40] <claymore666> thankyou flannel
[08:40] <edison> cause i need to install a game patch but dont have permission to change the folder
[08:41] <mneptok> edison: use sudo, not chmod
[08:41] <tritium> edison: use sudo
[08:41] <lampshade> edison, are you setting up a linux server or something?
[08:41] <edison> nope
[08:41] <lampshade> for like counterstrike or something
[08:41] <lampshade> oh
[08:41] <edison> i try first su root
[08:41] <mneptok> edison: use sudo, not chmod (x2)
[08:41] <tritium> !tell edison about rootsudo
[08:42] <edison> to change the folder permission but dont know how to change the permission
[08:43] <majd> Hey, do you guys know of a good tutorial on how to make my own gtk/metacity themes?
[08:43] <czr> ok. next question (I'm on a roll): anyone know of a decent tr/nr -> xml converter?
[08:43] <fiendskull9> hey
[08:43] <fiendskull9> anyone use fluxbox?
[08:43] <daryl> Anyone here use WOW?
[08:44] <lampshade> edison, more than likely you are wanting to change the permision on a folder, but you don't have the rights to even change the permission, that's where sudo comes in, it is used in front of chmod to then give you super user powers to change stuff.  Unlike windows, you do not defaulty just have super powers as a security reason
[08:44] <protocol1> fiendskull9, yeah
[08:44] <edison> but do i use then sudo chmod??
[08:45] <edison> and then what??
[08:45] <mneptok> edison: but you should use sudo to install the patch, not change the permissions in order to do it
[08:45] <protocol1> I am currently using KDE though
[08:45] <edison> but the folder is usr, so can i change the permission or it is not a good idea?
[08:45] <mneptok> it is not a good idea
[08:45] <daryl> Anyone here use WOW?
[08:46] <tritium> bad idea, edison
[08:46] <mneptok> use sudo to install the patch
[08:46] <CactusWiZaRd> hello
[08:46] <majd> how do i install a gdm theme?
[08:46] <fiendskull9> protocol1, well, i just installed it, because im testing wm's for a linux distro im working on. and i love it. i got gdesklets running and junk
[08:46] <tritium> daryl: I use the word as an exclamation on occasion
[08:46] <edison> i used sudo to install it but now i try to paste other patch in the folder and i cant
[08:46] <daryl> tritium = ) good to hear.  Do you also Play World of Warcraft?
[08:46] <Hutch> hey all!
[08:46] <edison> cause the permission
[08:47] <tritium> daryl: no, sorry.  I don't play games
[08:47] <mneptok> daryl: seeing that there is no Linux version of WoW and that this channel is named for a Linux distribution, what do you think?
[08:47] <daryl> mneptok, forgive me.  I'm very new.  was i breaking some rule asking in here about that?
[08:47] <Hutch> i believe wow is supported under that new program that lets you play some windows games on linux
[08:47] <tritium> No, it's okay, daryl
[08:47] <Hutch> i know bf2 is a supported game
[08:47] <protocol1> fiendskull9, yeah its a nice desktop for a clean look
[08:47] <fiendskull9> crossover?
[08:48] <mneptok> daryl: well, it's not breaking a rule. but it's like going into a men's room looking for a tampon dispenser.
[08:48] <Hutch> that could be right fiend
[08:48] <fiendskull9> protocol1, yeah, i like it. im only using 200mb of ram right now
[08:48] <CactusWiZaRd> i have this little program i want to install, but Synaptic or apt-get doesn't include libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3, where should i look for it?
[08:48] <hajuu> daryl, you should check out cedega :)
[08:48] <Flannel> daryl: WoW can run on ubuntu.
[08:48] <fiendskull9> Hutch, the new ver. doesnt come out till early summer i think
[08:48] <Flannel> there's a thing in the forums about it.
[08:48] <fiendskull9> Flannel, no it cant, Warcraft can tho
[08:48] <majd> !gdm
[08:48] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, majd
[08:48] <protocol1> yeah,,,I have 1.21GB RAM on my notebook
[08:48] <Hutch> gotcha, wasn't sure if you guys had heard of it
[08:48] <daryl> I am running ubuntu, and I actually have WoW working.  However, its really choppy.
[08:49] <protocol1> everything is nice and speedy
[08:49] <fiendskull9> protocol1, same here, its like 1.5 or something gigs
[08:49] <CactusWiZaRd> !libstdc++
[08:49] <protocol1> nice
[08:49] <Hutch> anyone have a notebook that can't last more than an hour on it's battery lol
[08:49] <fiendskull9> dude
[08:49] <fiendskull9> get this
[08:49] <fiendskull9> Barbie is going to have a debian based os
[08:49] <fiendskull9> dead feckin serious
[08:49] <Hutch> my notebook has a 3.2ghz, 2gb ddr and a 120GB hd with kill my battery life windows xp home
[08:49] <tritium> friendly reminder:
[08:49] <tritium> !enter
[08:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:50] <CactusWiZaRd> fiendskull9: d'oh
[08:50] <fiendskull9> sorry tritium
[08:50] <tritium> no problem, fiendskull9
[08:50] <edison> so im confuse with the sudo chmod command to change the folder (usr) permission
[08:50] <tritium> Barbie?  As in the doll?
[08:50] <fiendskull9> i saw it on slashdot today, but its going to turn little girls into nerds :P.
[08:50] <edison> lol
[08:50] <protocol1> I find myself using ubuntu as much as windows and I've grown attached with it
[08:51] <Hutch> could anyone help me with an ubuntu install... just have a few questions before i take a stab at it
[08:51] <fiendskull9> edison, do you want ALL the other dirs and file in /usr to be chmodded too?
[08:51] <Flannel> fiendskull9: erm, I could swear...  yeah, here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615&highlight=Warcraft+World
[08:51] <Flannel> erm, you can obviously ditch the highlight.
[08:51] <edison> can i revese the action once i do it??
[08:51] <fiendskull9> edison, you can chmod it back to its normal state.
[08:51] <Flannel> edison: only if you remember what they used to be.
[08:52] <Flannel> edison: which is why its easier to just sudo to do the stuff
[08:52] <fiendskull9> edison, it will take a LONG time. probably a half hour to chmod all the stuff in usr
[08:52] <Flannel> easier and safer
[08:52] <mneptok> edison: one last time. do NOT use chmod. use sudo to install the patch.
[08:52] <edison> :(
[08:52] <edison> i did use sudo to install it
[08:52] <mneptok> then you don;t need to change permissions
[08:52] <Hutch> can you format a 2nd hard drive which is going to have the ubuntu primary parition on with the ubuntu install disc? (format it to fat32)
[08:53] <daryl> someone was suggesting I ask elsewhere for help with wow. where would you folks suggest?
[08:53] <mneptok> Hutch: attempting to install Linux to FAT32 is not wise
[08:53] <Flannel> Hutch: fat32 is not good for linux.
[08:53] <edison> but the game try to update the patch in the usr folder, but cant update the patch because it dosnt have permission to change the folder
[08:53] <Hutch> oh really?
[08:53] <edison> is enemy territoy
[08:53] <Hutch> ntfs???
[08:53] <edison> ry
[08:53] <luke> how do I make gDesklets start up for my user automatically please?
[08:53] <Hutch> you gotta be kidden me
[08:54] <mneptok> edison: if it's telling you that, you're not using sudo to install the patch
[08:54] <Hutch> that is the best news i've heard since i discovered ubuntu lol
[08:54] <daryl> someone was suggesting I ask elsewhere for help with wow. where would you folks suggest?
[08:54] <edison> im telling u i use su root and then i installed it
[08:54] <Flannel> Hutch: no.  ntfs is worse.  you can Write/read fat32, but only put data there, not filesystem stuff.
[08:54] <Flannel> daryl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615 on installing it.
[08:54] <mneptok> edison: you can't use su on Ubuntu without sudo.
[08:54] <CactusWiZaRd> where can i get missing component(libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3)?
[08:54] <Hutch> What file system do you suggest?
[08:55] <mneptok> Hutch: ext3
[08:55] <Flannel> Hutch: for an ubuntu install? ext3
[08:55] <edison> but once the game start and try to update the patch in the folder usr it can be written
[08:55] <daryl> flannel, but what about a chat channel? i've read forum after forum post.
[08:55] <luke> how do I make gDesklets start up for my user automatically please?
[08:55] <mneptok> edison: then start the game with sudo
[08:55] <NPC_Crystufer> Hey, is there a way I could make linux (not ubuntu specificaly) execute ./home/dsl/hlds_l/cstrike/hlds_run -optionshere only if the option cstrike is passed at boot time?
[08:55] <Flannel> daryl: erm, sorry, no idea.
[08:55] <edison> ill try that last one
[08:55] <daryl> i just wish I could get this thing to run right.  sigh
[08:56] <edison> sounds good
[08:56] <Hutch> Will I be able to format the drive during or before the install with the ubuntu cd?
[08:56] <Flannel> edison: try #wine or somethign wine related.
[08:56] <Flannel> Hutch: during the install, the CD will let you
[08:56] <czr> NPC_Crystufer, grep for /proc/cmdline. it will contain the boot time kernel commandline
[08:56] <Hutch> perfect
[08:56] <czr> NPC_Crystufer, and if grep finds the parameter, run the program
[08:56] <czr> NPC_Crystufer, you'll have to modify your startup scripts obviously for this, but this will depend on your needs
[08:57] <edison> but wine is to use windows aplications and enemy territory can be play in linux with any problem
[08:57] <edison> with out any problem
[08:57] <Hutch> oh one more question... I've never setup raid before... I have a P5ND2-SLI motherboard with the onboard nvraid... the manual is horrendous. I have identical 120GB maxtor PATA drives
[08:57] <mneptok> edison: W:ET often has problems as it does not use ALSA
[08:57] <luke> how do I make an application run everytime gnome boots?
[08:58] <edison> ummmmmm......
[08:58] <roryy> NPC_Crystufer: how about setting up a specific runlevel for that, and configuring the startup services (/etc/init.d/*) appropriately ?
[08:58] <mneptok> Hutch: then RAID should be done in the BIOS an independent of the OS
[08:58] <CactusWiZaRd> WHERE CAN I INSTALL LIBSTDC++-LIBC6.2-2.SO.3?
[08:58] <edison> what is ALSA?
[08:58] <mneptok> an/and/
[08:58] <CactusWiZaRd> plz asnwer
[08:58] <CactusWiZaRd> answer*
[08:58] <roryy> please don't shout
[08:58] <NPC_Crystufer> roryy That sounds like it would work.
[08:59] <CactusWiZaRd> ...
[08:59] <edison> man remember im learning to use ubuntu
[08:59] <edison> i have like 2 months with it
[08:59] <CactusWiZaRd> edison: me?
[08:59] <NPC_Crystufer> Can you actually set up your own runlevel?\
[08:59] <edison> not u
[08:59] <czr> NPC_Crystufer, sure. just add it to /etc/inittab and set it up
[08:59] <orbin> CactusWiZaRd: sounds like you need build-essential perhaps
[08:59] <SillySquirrel> wow lot more people in here then kubuntu
[08:59] <Hutch> awesome, I really need to brushin up on my hard drive skills... after getting my A+, network+ and win server 2003 certs I never really got into any hd stuff
[09:00] <czr> NPC_Crystufer, any one number or letter will do although using an existing runlevel might be a best idea
[09:00] <czr> Hutch, google for 'fakeraid' for starters :-)
[09:00] <edison> using sudo for running et sounds good
[09:00] <NPC_Crystufer> czr Why is that?
[09:00] <Hutch> yea ive heard about that czr lol
[09:01] <czr> Hutch, that is the name for 'sw-raid done by bios at boot'
[09:01] <orbin> edison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALSA_%28Linux%29
[09:01] <czr> since nvraid != hw raid
[09:01] <Hutch> its not real 'raid' its a software raid pretty much
[09:01] <Hutch> gotcha
[09:01] <edison> thanks orbin for the info
[09:01] <deepwoodz> my flashplayer plays videos but no sound any clue why?
[09:01] <Hutch> yea there is a huge bios section labeled "nvraid" has all the support options in there
[09:01] <czr> although ymmv whether you want to do it that way. linux mdadm is pretty good as well if you really want to go the sw raid way
[09:01] <CactusWiZaRd> orbin: maybe, i haven't got any clue, 'cuz i have 2 computers, but one monitor, so my dad got sum program which should help using 2 cpu's with one monitor
[09:01] <Hutch> maxtavista?
[09:02] <farous> deepwoodz: i assume that happen if you have another program using your sound card. type aoss firefox and it will run fine
[09:02] <orbin> CactusWiZaRd: how does that work?  isn't there only one output plung on the monitor?
[09:02] <deepwoodz> thank you
[09:02] <orbin> s/plung/plug :)
[09:02] <Hutch> kvm switch?
[09:02] <farous> deepwoodz: given you are using als. you might need to install the package though alsa-oss
[09:02] <CactusWiZaRd> orbin: yup
[09:02] <Flannel> Sounds like it should be hardware based.  CactusWiZaRd whats the program?  And yeah, you most likely need build-essential, in fact, you DO need it, if youre compiling anything.
[09:03] <edison> but orbin ALSA is for sound support
[09:03] <orbin> edison: eh?  i just say you asking what ALSA was.. :-/
[09:03] <farous> deepwoodz: ment if you are using alsa sorry as your sound server
[09:03] <orbin> s/say/saw
[09:03] <edison> thats not my problem, my problem is that when i run enemy-territory
[09:03] <CactusWiZaRd> Flannel: it's VNC or something like that
[09:03] <Hutch> cactus i believe you need either maxta vista or a KVM (keyboard video monitor) switch
[09:03] <edison> ok u got me there lol
[09:04] <orbin> edison: when you run et...you have sound issues?
[09:04] <edison> cause someone told me to use it and i didnt know what it was
[09:04] <edison> nope
[09:04] <NPC_Crystufer> rorry If I set up a specific runlevel for that, won't it restart the server if I shut it down?
[09:04] <Flannel> CactusWiZaRd: you don't need to compile VNC, ubuntu comes with it
[09:04] <deepwoodz> it works thank you
[09:05] <farous> ur w :)
[09:05] <CactusWiZaRd> Flannel: thnks
[09:05] <majd> is there a tutorial to install engage?
[09:05] <majd> !engage
[09:05] <ubotu> majd: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:05] <edison> my problem is that et use a punkbuster patch to stop hackers get in your pc while u are playing
[09:05] <deepwoodz> peace
[09:05] <majd> !e17
[09:05] <Hutch> edison what game are you guys talkin about BF2 or WOW?
[09:05] <roryy> NPC_Crystufer: shut what down? you mean, change runlevels ?
[09:06] <edison> so once in i while this punkbuster try to update the connection but because i dondt have the folder permissions the game log out
[09:07] <Flannel> edison: right, you need to sudo and run it toupdate, just like updating FF, etc.  sudo run it, then quit and run it as normal.
[09:07] <edison> im talking about wolfstein: return to the castle
[09:07] <NPC_Crystufer> roryy No, I mean if I try to shutdown the game server.
[09:07] <Hutch> gotcha
[09:07] <Hutch> what's the server version of ubuntu?
[09:07] <Hutch> kubuntu?
[09:07] <Flannel> Hutch: ubuntu.
[09:07] <edison> ok thanks for the tip
[09:07] <NPC_Crystufer> roryy I guess I don't understand how it works.
[09:07] <Hutch> lol
[09:07] <DesTroYed> heey All Hv Som probs Wez ubuntu Os :!
[09:07] <edison> it sounds good lol
[09:07] <Flannel> Hutch: no, it's still ubuntu.  It's just no desktop environment
[09:08] <Hutch> gotcha
[09:08] <Flannel> Hutch: you can install it from ANY -ubuntu install CD
[09:08] <roryy> NPC_Crystufer: i'd have your command started as a service script /etc/init.d/  -- in which case, you could stop it with 'sudo /etc/init.d/<blah> stop', so, no
[09:08] <DesTroYed> Anyone here loll like icqserver :!
[09:08] <Flannel> Hutch: just as you can switch between (or have multiple) -ubuntus installed
[09:08] <edison> yeah i had to many problems updating this but ill try his way otherwise i tell if worker or not
[09:08] <edison> cya in a moment
[09:08] <roryy> NPC_Crystufer: is there a reason you can't start/stop this thing after a normal boot ?
[09:09] <Hutch> i've got a dual xeon server from theplanet... run a couple game servers on it... have win 2003 adv. server standard edition but I wanna get a little more outta the server and learn some linux while im at it
[09:09] <roryy> Hutch: there's also a 'server edition' cd, which you might find useful. it has nothing that isn't available in the repositories, though.
[09:09] <F0LL0W3R> So Anyone Well Done Help me :S
[09:09] <F0LL0W3R> Would*
[09:09] <Hutch> gotcha... anyway you can install it via net?
[09:09] <Flannel> roryy: I believe the only advantageto that is it has more server stuff on the CD repo.
[09:10] <Hutch> server is erm uh... 1500 miles from me lol
[09:10] <Flannel> Hutch: install what? ubuntu? yeah, you can netinstall.  Not officially sanctioned.  But google for it.
[09:10] <F0LL0W3R> Hmmmmm
[09:10] <Flannel> F0LL0W3R: just ask, don't ask to ask.
[09:10] <F0LL0W3R> kz People Wen 1 would help me loll just type manick
[09:10] <NPC_Crystufer> roryy No, I can do it. But I want to start up in text mode anyways so it runs faster, and then for convenience sake I'd like to make it so that I can power it on and select a grub entry, then leave it alone.
[09:10] <F0LL0W3R> :S
[09:10] <F0LL0W3R> Okay
[09:10] <F0LL0W3R> i hv problem
[09:11] <F0LL0W3R> we installin fonts should i put ma favorites fonts in that path /usr/shar/myfonts
[09:11] <F0LL0W3R> right ?
[09:11] <jtd_> hey guys, who understands redirects with ./htaccess files?  cuz I even did an AllowOverride for that directory and it still doesn't redirect.
[09:11] <roryy> NPC_Crystufer: so in runlevel 3, startup this thing but not (say) gdm
[09:11] <Hutch> ubuntu would save me some money too on my server... i pay an extra $30 a month for win serv 2003
[09:11] <orbin> F0LL0W3R: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[09:11] <SillySquirrel> ewwwwww
[09:11] <Flannel> Hutch: you might have to talk to the people at the server place re: installation.
[09:11] <SillySquirrel> payin extra for a virus on your server.
[09:11] <F0LL0W3R> orbin loll read it already
[09:11] <NPC_Crystufer> what is gdm?
[09:12] <F0LL0W3R> but can't get that i mean
[09:12] <claymore666> i've got a small problem, i installed unbuntu but i dont know if i even set the root password, or if i am in root, what do i do? :/
[09:12] <NPC_Crystufer> is that gnome?
[09:12] <Hutch> yea ill prob have them do it for me... they have the best tech support imaginable
[09:12] <Flannel> Hutch: or at least, make sure it's kosher for you to change stuff
[09:12] <Flannel> !tell claymore666 about root
[09:12] <czr> NPC_Crystufer, the graphical login program that comes with gnome (gnome display manager)
[09:12] <claymore666> thx
[09:12] <F0LL0W3R> wen i modify in the font-cache-1 to put my fonts it "myfonts" "directory" somth like dat
[09:12] <SillySquirrel> !tell SillySquirrel about root
[09:12] <F0LL0W3R> the file told me that u can't save it anyway
[09:12] <F0LL0W3R> so how can i modify it ?
[09:13] <F0LL0W3R> "myfonts" 0 .directory" it was like that
[09:13] <NPC_Crystufer> roryy, Yeah, about like that, but my com doesn't have a gdm anyways. It's dsl, so it has a console login.
[09:13] <sparkleytone> i've never build a deb-src package
[09:13] <Hutch> alright guys thank you so much for the help, i gotta play a couple games of bf2 to relax for what I know is going to be an adventurous install lol
[09:14] <sparkleytone> when i do apt-get -b source package...does it install it too?
[09:14] <F0LL0W3R> so how can i edit that file n save wut i did ?
[09:14] <sparkleytone> i got tired of waiting for a clamav backport to hit breezy...
[09:14] <F0LL0W3R> the file fonts-cache-1 in that path ?
[09:15] <F0LL0W3R> fonts.cache-1*
[09:15] <imbrandon> F0LL0W3R: it explains it all on the wiki
[09:15] <sparkleytone> any1?
[09:15] <NPC_Crystufer> roryy, you know what, this is a sonovabich. i'm gonna alias the command i want to a shorter one and start it myself.
[09:15] <Flannel> sparkleytone: -b means build it, so yes.
[09:16] <Flannel> sparkleytone: I imagine you need build-essential first though
[09:16] <F0LL0W3R> imbrandon Really i did it all n make the directory for ma fonts but wen i modified that file fonts.cache-1 to activiate ma fonts
[09:16] <imbrandon> sparkleytone: no it dosent install it too, it created a .deb in the directory you run that from
[09:16] <HellDragon> when there's evil, HellDragon is idle
[09:16] <HellDragon> :)
[09:16] <F0LL0W3R> it said me that u don't hv the full permission to do that imbrandon
[09:16] <sparkleytone> so which one is it?? ;)
[09:17] <Flannel> sparkleytone: what he said, I just went off the help file
[09:17] <imbrandon> Flannel: build it is not the same as installing it
[09:17] <sparkleytone> :)
[09:17] <F0LL0W3R> sudo apt-get install XXX
[09:17] <sparkleytone> thx
[09:17] <sparkleytone> i see the debs now
[09:17] <sparkleytone> now to take a deep breath and do it
[09:18] <F0LL0W3R> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please, check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[09:18] <F0LL0W3R> that message appeared
[09:18] <F0LL0W3R> that wut i mean imbrandon .....
[09:18] <imbrandon> F0LL0W3R: you are not rewading the wiki correctly
[09:19] <F0LL0W3R> Hmmm
[09:19] <imbrandon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[09:19] <F0LL0W3R> may b ma poor English :S
[09:19] <F0LL0W3R> Okay wait moment :!
[09:19] <orbin> F0LL0W3R: there is no mention of a fonts.cache-1 file on that wiki page
[09:19] <tritium> !enter
[09:19] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:19] <sn00p> I am trying to play a .bin movie in mplayer I see picture but I hear no sound anybody know whats wrong?
[09:19] <F0LL0W3R> http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/saw27/notes/adding-truetype-font-to-debian-or-ubuntu.html
[09:20] <F0LL0W3R> that link i hv followed frm wiki By The Way
[09:20] <imbrandon> F0LL0W3R:  here is the official way to do it ..... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[09:20] <F0LL0W3R> am there i Swear loll
[09:20] <F0LL0W3R> Okay Okay Okay Thanks guys anyway
[09:21] <imbrandon> jez, let me spell it out, make a .fonts dir and copy the files there, then relogin , its very simple
[09:21] <F0LL0W3R> u mean
[09:21] <F0LL0W3R> in the home directory ?
[09:21] <imbrandon> yes
[09:21] <Pr0hibited> Hey guys, I need to ban anyone that tries to access my IP from bigpond.net.au .. How could I do that ? Firewall, yes, but suggestions? I need a firewall that can run by ssh
[09:21] <F0LL0W3R> yea i got it
[09:21] <F0LL0W3R> am tyin this also ...
[09:21] <imbrandon> Pr0hibited: ipchains
[09:21] <ishit> how do i create a super user passwd
[09:22] <imbrandon> Pr0hibited:  and also look at /etc/hosts.deny
[09:22] <imbrandon> ishit: sudo passwd root ( but i wouldent recomend it )
[09:22] <tritium> !tell F0LL0W3R about enter
[09:22] <orbin> Pr0hibited: why would you do that?  i'm getting bigpond cable tomorrow.
[09:23] <Healot> sudo su is preferable to login as root
[09:23] <Healot> i think
[09:23] <orbin> Pr0hibited: is there something i should know? :)
[09:23] <sparkleytone> man i love clamav+dspam
[09:23] <imbrandon> Healot: yes
[09:23] <Pr0hibited> orbin - having issues with someone trying to scan my server, and attack my chats
[09:23] <F0LL0W3R> tritium loll Thanks for that helper Bot ....
[09:23] <Pr0hibited> & D/DoS
[09:23] <imbrandon> Pr0hibited:  and also look at /etc/hosts.deny
[09:23] <sn00p> I am trying to play a .bin movie in mplayer I see picture but I hear no sound anybody know whats wrong?
[09:23] <Healot> because leaving root passwordless is a lot safer
[09:23] <Pr0hibited> Imbrandon, thanks man. I'll look into ipchains -- hosts.deny didn't work for me when I tried earlier
[09:24] <salty> hi  all - rather new to linux, but im trying to create an Ubuntu bootcd - all is going well, but i the Terminal wont accept this line of code, anyone got any ideas? "DEFAULT linux initrd=initrd.img ro root=/dev/sda"
[09:24] <Flannel> Pr0hibited: check out denyhosts (its a script) http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/
[09:24] <imbrandon> sn00p: if someone knew the awnser they would tell you please dont repeat the same question in a short peroid of time
[09:24] <imbrandon> salty: drop the "DEFAULT" part
[09:25] <edison> flannel it didnt worked tryind to use sudo to run the game it kick me out again
[09:25] <salty> Imbrandon: still no go, tells me Command not found
[09:25] <imbrandon> what command promt are you at?
[09:25] <Healot> the grub  or the X terminal?
[09:26] <salty> ubuntu@ubuntu  - jsut the temrinal in the app's menu
[09:26] <edison> look: You have been kicked via PunkBuster (for 2 minutes) ... Time Out tryi ng to Update PB Client
[09:26] <imbrandon> and you are trying to do what salty?
[09:26] <salty> create a bootCD for ubuntu, as i have ubuntu instaleld on an external - and my computer doesnt support USB booting
[09:27] <salty> slight problem - LOL
[09:27] <imbrandon> umm you could install grub to the mbr of the internal ide and tell grub to look at the usb hdd
[09:27] <Flannel> salty: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19428.html
[09:28] <imbrandon> yea salty there ya go ;)
[09:28] <Flannel> or, if that doesn't work... have another go at google.
[09:28] <salty> thank you!  -
[09:28] <Remenic> is it possible to enable metacity's built-in compositor?
[09:28] <Remenic> or is it disabled in the build
[09:28] <Pr0hibited> ipchains -A input -j DENY -p all -l -s bigpond.net.au/8 -i eth0 -d <IP_ADDRESS>/0 // Would something like this work?
[09:29] <imbrandon> Pr0hibited: no idea , i just know ipchains does what your looking for ;)
[09:29] <F0LL0W3R> for that server freenode should i name ma hostname by localhost to enter fastly as i takes along time to lookin up ma hostname
[09:29] <F0LL0W3R> n endly tells me that we server couldn't lookin up your hostname loll
[09:30] <SillySquirrel> get a proxy?
[09:30] <F0LL0W3R> nop
[09:30] <SillySquirrel> bnc?
[09:30] <F0LL0W3R> am not usin it
[09:30] <F0LL0W3R> Am Adsl
[09:30] <imbrandon> F0LL0W3R: try askin in #freenode ;)
[09:31] <F0LL0W3R> Immmmm
[09:31] <F0LL0W3R> Right Sorry :S
[09:31] <imbrandon> np , you just might get a better awnser
[09:31] <F0LL0W3R> Thanks alot Im here get much better help that icqserver loll
[09:31] <F0LL0W3R> than*
[09:32] <claymore666> how can i possibly make an account able to access a NTFS drive?
[09:32] <claymore666> using a fresh install of ubuntu
[09:32] <claymore666> im in administration
[09:32] <imbrandon> claymore666: you mean other thatn root? you have to set options in the /etc/fstab like "uid=<someuser>,gid=admin,ro" etc
[09:33] <claymore666> ah
[09:33] <claymore666> thankyou
[09:33] <spencer> 445
[09:33] <r0xoR> i've got this little issue here with synaptic: http://pastebin.com/703122
[09:33] <r0xoR> anyone know what's going on?
[09:33] <claymore666> say i have this:
[09:33] <claymore666> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[09:33] <claymore666> how do i change for a specific user to be able to use it?
[09:33] <kuzmaster> can sombody please point me to the page that tells you how to install and use wine?
[09:34] <imbrandon> claymore666:  here is my fstab entry for accessing my xp partition ( sda2 ) /dev/sda2       /mnt/sda2       ntfs    uid=brandon,gid=admin,ro,nls=utf8       0       0
[09:34] <imbrandon> !wine
[09:34] <claymore666> thankyou
[09:34] <Pr0hibited> um, I tried apt-get install ipchains .. :s
[09:34] <claymore666> ;)
[09:34] <Flannel> kuzmaster: it's in the wiki, so... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/wine
[09:34] <Pr0hibited> I'm getting a huge error thing, saying it couldn't be found
[09:34] <imbrandon> Wine is a compatibility for running windows programs on linux.  Get the latest .deb from http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ . This thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 - has details for installation and setup using winetools. More info at http://www.winehq.org or for support go to #winehq.
[09:35] <eggzeck> Pr0hibited, use pastebin and show us the error
[09:35] <Pr0hibited> Says files are missing...
[09:35] <Pr0hibited> And says this-
[09:35] <Pr0hibited> You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:35] <Pr0hibited> apt-get update on what :s
[09:35] <F0LL0W3R> kuzmaster just install wine n the prog u wanna open wez right click n choose open application wez wine u will find in /usr/bin/wine
[09:35] <imbrandon> so run "apt-get update"
[09:35] <eggzeck> Pr0hibited, type 'sudo apt-get updat'
[09:35] <imbrandon> Pr0hibited:  sudo apt-get update
[09:35] <F0LL0W3R> imbrandon how can i register ma nick here like /ns register pass ?
[09:36] <Pr0hibited> I see
[09:36] <F0LL0W3R> as i wanna try write there cannt send to channel
[09:36] <imbrandon> F0LL0W3R: /nickserv help register
[09:36] <claymore666> imbrandon,  i'm confused, how do i edit my f-stab if i can't login with root? :/
[09:36] <claymore666> sorry :/
[09:36] <F0LL0W3R> kz
[09:36] <mustard5> claymore666, use sudo
[09:36] <mustard5> claymore666, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:36] <B4zzA> oot
[09:36] <claymore666> ok
[09:36] <claymore666> thanks
[09:36] <imbrandon> claymore666:  you want to either "sudo nano /etc/fstab" or "gksu gedit /etc/fstab"
[09:37] <claymore666> thankyou
[09:37] <imbrandon> ubotu: tell mustard5 about sudoroot
[09:38] <hajiki> can someone help me get my cd-ripping to go faster than 1.x? i've already turned on DMA with hdparm -d1, any other ideas? (i'm running 510)
[09:38] <mustard5> imbrandon, yeah I get lazy :)
[09:38] <imbrandon> hehe
[09:39] <bkw> I tried to install ubuntu 5.10 on my latop, but the system freeze when it tries to load hotplug daemon,   I would like to try 6.06 beta2 and see if it works better. Can I uninstall grub now, and restore the old mbr?
[09:40] <claymore666> ok, now i have edited fstab (and backed up) how do i get linux to read/ perform it without rebooting ?
[09:40] <imbrandon> claymore666: just umount the partion and remount it
[09:40] <claymore666> ok
[09:40] <claymore666> ta
[09:40] <enkrav> Hello, how can I set up a directory without any permission troubles for my family e.g. where everybody can read and write, even if the program that saves the file wants it to be readable only by the user who produced it?
[09:41] <imbrandon> enkrav:  chmod 777 <directoryname>
[09:41] <claymore666> done, i think
[09:41] <claymore666> thankyou
[09:41] <SillySquirrel> Is there a way to check the MD5 truness of the ubuntu iso in windows ?
[09:41] <imbrandon> np ;)
[09:41] <mustard5> claymore666, well done
[09:41] <eggzeck> enkrav, chmod a+rwx <dirname>
[09:42] <caonex> hello, what is the program that uses the output of a command and places it as the parameter of another specified command? I forgot
[09:42] <imbrandon> the pipe ? |
[09:42] <mustard5> SillySquirrel, yeah, you could get hold of a freeware md5sum checker of some kind
[09:42] <imbrandon> there is a actual md5sum.exe on sourceforge somewhere i think
[09:43] <caonex> imbrandon: nope.....I know about htat.....but pipe only passes output to another command you specify.....there is another program that has other advantages
[09:43] <kuzmaster> that link diddnt work
[09:44] <SillySquirrel> Thanks
[09:44] <imbrandon> md5sum for windows ---. http://www.etree.org/md5com.html
[09:44] <enkrav> eggzeck, imbrandon, The problem is this: I occasionally do a chmod a+rwx dirname -R   but when, for example user A puts, say, photos imported from the digicam in it, the digital camera program marks the files inside as readable only for the user who downloaded them from the camera.
[09:44] <eggzeck> caonex, it also passes output to other programs 'grep' is acutally a program (command)
[09:44] <caonex> eggzeck: it is not grep....
[09:44] <enkrav> this is only an example
[09:44] <imbrandon> enkrav: the only way i know of is to run a cron on that dir every few minutes
[09:44] <caonex> eggzeck: I use grep a lot as well
[09:44] <eggzeck> caonex, that was an _example_
[09:45] <caonex> eggzeck: I am not mad....hehe.....
[09:45] <claymore666> !wine
[09:45] <enkrav> imbrandon, thought of this, but it's *hardly* elegant
[09:45] <imbrandon> heh true
[09:46] <imbrandon> enkrav:  some fs types let you set the default creation file flags in fstab dunno how that all works touhg
[09:47] <imbrandon> like smbfs etc
[09:47] <imbrandon> and it would have to be its own mount obviously becouse you wouldent want that for like / or anything
[09:47] <claymore666> oh no
[09:47] <imbrandon> ?
[09:47] <claymore666> ubuntu doesn't support mp3's ???
[09:48] <eggzeck> Yes it does
[09:48] <mustard5> claymore666, yeah it does :)
[09:48] <imbrandon> yes , just not out of the box claymore666
[09:48] <mustard5> claymore666, just not by default
[09:48] <imbrandon> !restricted
[09:48] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:48] <claymore666> ok, well i just opened one in totem and it didn't play
[09:48] <claymore666> ah
[09:48] <imbrandon> claymore666: follow that link, its simple to setup
[09:48] <sparkleytone> isn't lame a totally free mp3 lib?
[09:48] <eggzeck> claymore666, xmms 'sudo apt-get install xmms'
[09:48] <claymore666> thankyou ;)
[09:48] <eggzeck> I didn't have to install any restricted ones to use mp3 (fyi)
[09:49] <mustard5> eggzeck, yeah..its funny how xmms supports mp3's without installing anything from restricted formats page
[09:49] <hajiki> anyone know how to make soundjuicer rip faster? i already enabled dma with hdparm.
[09:49] <eggzeck> mustard5, exactly :)
[09:49] <claymore666> <3 ubuntu
[09:49] <sparkleytone> hajiki: give your disc a nice hard spin right before you close the tray ;)
[09:49] <imbrandon> lol
[09:49] <claymore666> now, how do i launch wine? :S
[09:50] <imbrandon> claymore666: you will want to run wincfg first but you dont launch "wine" you launch a win program like "wine /path/to/my.exe"
[09:50] <hajiki> no lol
[09:51] <claymore666> ah, ok
[09:51] <sparkleytone> heh...i'm so damn proud of the DSPAM+ClamAV+Postfix=>Exchange relay i set up for work
[09:51] <claymore666> and it's best to run a fake install ?
[09:51] <sparkleytone> DSPAM is a biotch to get up and running
[09:51] <mustard5> claymore666, works for me
[09:51] <claymore666> ok
[09:52] <imbrandon> claymore666: and if you looking at playing games with wine you might do some research on cedga ( a better wine for games ) and crossover office ( a better wine for office type apps like photoshop )
[09:52] <F0LL0W3R> !realplayer
[09:52] <ubotu> methinks realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:52] <imbrandon> but word of warning crossover office is not free
[09:52] <imbrandon> but very good , i use it every day
[09:52] <mustard5> nor cedega :)
[09:52] <claymore666> hm
[09:52] <imbrandon> cedga has a free cvs version
[09:53] <claymore666> i think i have a gui version of wine installed... im confused
[09:53] <mustard5> I've got cedega myself, but I wonder why sometimes..I only play one game on my windows98 install
[09:53] <imbrandon> umm there isnt a wine gui ;)
[09:53] <imbrandon> only winecfg
[09:53] <claymore666> ok
[09:53] <claymore666> sorry, new to linux :/
[09:53] <mustard5> I like to think I'm supporting the development of good gaming support in linux :)
[09:53] <Remenic> I noticed that the iptables init.d scripts are missing in ubuntu, what's the best way to configure a firewall in ubuntu?
[09:53] <imbrandon> hehe
[09:54] <mustard5> Remenic, with a gui?
[09:54] <imbrandon> Remenic: "sudo apt-get install initd"
[09:54] <imbrandon> install even
[09:54] <Remenic> initd you say... hmmm
[09:54] <HIGH-FREQ> how do i get the mac address of this wireless card
[09:54] <eggzeck> Remenic, 'apt-cache search firewall'
[09:54] <HIGH-FREQ> is there a simple command
[09:54] <imbrandon> ifconfig
[09:55] <Remenic> sweet, 1 hit... kmyfirewall :)
[09:55] <mustard5> F0LL0W3R, they shoot people with away messages in here :)
[09:55] <imbrandon> HIGH-FREQ: ifconfig ( it will be under the HWaddr )
[09:55] <F0LL0W3R> mustard5 Awwwww
[09:55] <F0LL0W3R> Okay i will part den
[09:55] <HIGH-FREQ> lmao....oh yeah...i'm tired as hell
[09:55] <eggzeck> imbrandon, you corrected your 'install' spelling even though it was correct. :p
[09:55] <imbrandon> lol eggzeck i'm tired ;)
[09:56] <eggzeck> imbrandon, haha =)
[09:57] <mustard5> 0-o
[09:57] <Unimatrix9>  i run the gnome desktop, and use the "run applications" a lot, how can i clear that what it has remembered...
[09:57] <eggzeck> mustard5, I get stuff about postgreSQL
[09:57] <Unimatrix9> hi all
[09:57] <eggzeck> haha
[09:57] <Unimatrix9> :)
[09:57] <mustard5> eggzeck, yeah same :)
[09:57] <imbrandon> inetd is what i was thinking aobut
[09:57] <ompaul> mustard5, init.d
[09:58] <eggzeck> ompaul, you can't install init.d :P
[09:58] <B0FH> i was wondering if there where any install commands at the ubuntu install cd where it says Boot: that would install ubuntu with vesa drivers?
[09:58] <imbrandon> B0FH: hit f1 at that screen
[09:58] <ompaul> eggzeck, check when I arrived :-) previous conversations without context
[09:58] <Unimatrix9>  i run the gnome desktop, and use the "run applications" a lot, how can i clear that what it has remembered...
[09:58] <eggzeck> ompaul, ahh sorry =)
[09:59] <B0FH> imbrandon: ok so if i have my freind hit f1 at that screen what option would be be looking for?
[09:59] <imbrandon> Unimatrix9: please dont repeat in a short peroid of time , if someone knows they will anwser
[09:59] <imbrandon> B0FH:  that will give you a list of options , what your looking for will probbly be vga=<something> but you will have to look at the optiosn in f1
[09:59] <mustard5> I get tons of hits for inetd :)
[10:00] <B0FH> this is a new potentail ubuntu user that wiped his win install and does not have a way to go back to windows as his xp cd is hosed lol
[10:00] <sparkleytone> ewps
[10:00] <sparkleytone> potential?
[10:00] <eggzeck> B0FH, that is awesome
[10:00] <imbrandon> B0FH:  and is there a reason not to use the default install ?
[10:00] <eggzeck> :P
[10:00] <sparkleytone> sounds like you're stuck .
[10:00] <sparkleytone> :)
[10:00] <sparkleytone> welcome to Ubuntu.  You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
[10:01] <imbrandon> hahah
[10:01] <mustard5> :)
[10:01] <B0FH> yea http://pastebin.com/703127
[10:01] <protocol1> BOFH, he will enjoy it
[10:01] <imbrandon> B0FH:  k one sec looking
[10:01] <B0FH> those are the visual errors
[10:01] <B0FH> not from error logs
[10:01] <sparkleytone> B0FH: you wiped it or you can't boot to it?
[10:01] <ompaul> B0FH, having missed the start is it an install with funny graphics on the screen in front of you?
[10:02] <B0FH> it's not me my box is linux compatable this is for a freind i am trying to help via email as his box won't take ubuntu for some reason
[10:02] <imbrandon> B0FH:  looks like he is doing a expert install, just let him do the default install
[10:02] <B0FH> no this screen is not infront of me this is a freinds computer
[10:02] <B0FH> ok
[10:02] <B0FH> will do
[10:03] <mustard5> B0FH, thats a mess of errors
[10:04] <imbrandon> ahhh he is using the live cd ? get an install disk, not the live cd
[10:04] <ompaul> B0FH, if it is the case that they have distorted graphics at the start then doing this can help - there is F1 as you already know and you can "add an option" some phase like that to the boot options which is a string/phrase that the kernel actually reads, and the one that helps most is VGA=771 for laptops of certain makes
[10:04] <imbrandon> B0FH:  ahhh he is using the live cd ? get an install disk, not the live cd
[10:04] <krishna> hi
[10:04] <imbrandon> hi
[10:04] <eggzeck> hello krishna
[10:05] <mustard5> B0FH, he wouldnt be getting the partitioning option with a liveCD
[10:05] <krishna> how do i get ubuntu to allow me to write to my windows partitions?
[10:05] <ompaul> B0FH, wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions  and wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge
[10:05] <voraistos> hello, i have no video codec working on dapper, can anybody help ?
[10:05] <ompaul> krishna, System Administration Disks
[10:05] <caonex> imbrandon: the program is xargs....
[10:05] <mustard5> krishna, you would edit your /etc/fstab file with the necessary options
[10:05] <ompaul> voraistos, please ask in #ubuntu+1 the channel for dapper
[10:05] <imbrandon> krishna: google captive-ntfs
[10:05] <voraistos> krishna: what kind of windows partition? ntfs? dont do that ;)
[10:05] <voraistos> ompaul: nobody there :(
[10:06] <krishna> lol, ya... i formatted them in fat32 for that reason ;)
[10:06] <mustard5> krishna, check this URL out http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[10:06] <sparkleytone> krishna: easy enough then
[10:06] <imbrandon> ahh then just edit the /etc/fstab with rw options
[10:06] <eggzeck> voraistos, well dapper is unstable, and I don't think any of us run it yet.
[10:06] <ompaul> voraistos, the way it works is ask and then wait a moment
[10:06] <intelikey> good morning....    can someone tell me what i am missing here?
[10:06] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  grub-install /dev/hda
[10:06] <intelikey> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[10:06] <intelikey> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[10:06] <voraistos> yeah. i saw that ;)
[10:07] <sparkleytone> intelikey: is /boot mounted?
[10:07] <r0xoR> is there a way to upgrade firefox to 1.5 ?
[10:07] <r0xoR> i.e. from within synaptic?
[10:07] <imbrandon> !ff1.5
[10:07] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:07] <intelikey> sparkleytone it's on /
[10:07] <r0xoR> k thx
[10:07] <mustard5> have fun all :)
[10:07] <eggzeck> mucha, enjoy your dinner
[10:07] <imbrandon> l8tr mustard5
[10:07] <intelikey> sparkleytone i only have one mount.  hda
[10:07] <eggzeck> err mustard5*
[10:07] <sparkleytone> hda---what?
[10:07] <sparkleytone> hda1?
[10:07] <intelikey> no
[10:07] <intelikey> hda
[10:08] <imbrandon> hda<n>
[10:08] <imbrandon> no swap or anything ?
[10:08] <voraistos> hda is no partition, just the disk
[10:08] <intelikey>  / /dev/hda rw,nosuid 1 1
[10:08] <sparkleytone> ummm
[10:08] <voraistos> strange
[10:08] <sparkleytone> what voraistos said
[10:08] <imbrandon> weird
[10:08] <intelikey> i know it is not a partition.
[10:08] <imbrandon> hda is a disk not a partition
[10:09] <ciro> hi all
[10:09] <intelikey> like duh
[10:09] <ciro> who can tell me something bout nUbuntu?
[10:09] <sparkleytone> you can't mount a drive ...
[10:09] <intelikey> the hell i cant
[10:09] <voraistos> u cant mount a disk, just a partition
[10:09] <sparkleytone> ciro: its nU
[10:09] <imbrandon> intelikey:  should be more like / /dev/hda1 defaults 0 0
[10:09] <intelikey> no it's   / =  /dev/hda
[10:09] <voraistos> what kind of part do u have in there ?
[10:10] <intelikey> there is no partition
[10:10] <sparkleytone> intelikey: then there is no fs
[10:10] <voraistos> if u dont have any partition, u should format first ;)
[10:10] <imbrandon> intelikey: then you have no fs
[10:10] <ciro> is it different from ubuntu and what are the differencies?
[10:10] <intelikey> if this is all the help i can get here i might as well go some place where someone knows something about linux
[10:11] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  mount
[10:11] <ompaul> intelikey, stop trolling
[10:11] <intelikey>  /dev/hda on / type ext2 (rw,nosuid)
[10:11] <intelikey> ompaul i'm not trolling.
[10:11] <imbrandon> intelikey: i know alot about linux infact i've been programing in linux for over 12 years, you are mixed up is all
[10:11] <krishna> thanks guys..
[10:11] <caustictwin> how do I change the gnome splash screen image - the one that shows things loading like nautilus and such?
[10:11] <imbrandon> intelikey: what other hdds do you have mounted< no swap ?
[10:12] <voraistos> krishna: did u find out ?
[10:12] <intelikey> imbrandon no swap
[10:12] <eggzeck> ciro, very different
[10:12] <malachi> hello
[10:12] <imbrandon> intelikey:  ok whats your problem?
[10:12] <malachi> my Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[10:12] <malachi> has a problem
[10:13] <voraistos> which problem?
 The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[10:13] <caustictwin> also, I have a dual boot laptop and I set my /pub/ directory to a Fat32 partition so that winXP and linux could both write to it but it appears i don't have access to write to it in linux. suggestions?
[10:13] <voraistos> remove winXP
[10:13] <sparkleytone> lol
[10:13] <ompaul> intelikey,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto
[10:13] <imbrandon> is the /boot directory pressent on your / patition ?
[10:14] <caustictwin> voraistos, yeah, and then I can play awesome games like mahjong and break out amirite?
[10:14] <malachi> in dmesg i have: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[10:14] <malachi> what's the solution/
[10:14] <intelikey> ompaul got that in http ?    rather than https ?
[10:14] <voraistos> caustictwin: you can play UT, doom3, enemy terrotory
[10:14] <eggzeck> Why do people have an OS just for games?
[10:14] <sparkleytone> lol
[10:14] <caustictwin> OOOOOH
[10:14] <eggzeck> That never made sense to me
[10:14] <caustictwin> SIGN ME UP
[10:14] <sparkleytone> install links-ssl
[10:15] <ciro> eggzeck, in what sence are they different?
[10:15] <caustictwin> that's the best thing about gaming on linux... you know what all the good games are
[10:15] <caustictwin> cuz they came out on PC 5 YEARS AGO
[10:15] <sparkleytone> caustictwin: whats the point of you being here?
[10:15] <caustictwin> I was looking or help
[10:15] <eggzeck> ciro, nubuntu has no gnome, no openoffice.org, etc.
[10:15] <imbrandon> umm linux == pc and ppc and arm etc, but caustictwin you can always use cedga for the latest games ;)
[10:15] <caustictwin> and then  I got trolled
[10:15] <eggzeck> ciro, while Ubuntu does ;)
[10:16] <sparkleytone> you got quipped, not trolled
[10:16] <voraistos> caustictwin: wolfenstein-like games are the best. dont bullshit me.
[10:16] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:16] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:16] <caustictwin> so, as stated before
[10:16] <ciro> eggzeck, I need a light and fast os. may it be useful 4 me?
[10:16] <caustictwin> also, I have a dual boot laptop and I set my /pub/ directory to a Fat32 partition so that winXP and linux could both write to it but it appears i don't have access to write to it in linux. suggestions?
[10:16] <imbrandon> caustictwin: check the options in /etc/fstab for the /pub mount
[10:16] <caustictwin> how do I change the gnome splash screen image - the one that shows things loading like nautilus and such?
[10:16] <imbrandon> and also chmod the /pub dir too
[10:17] <sparkleytone> caustictwin: 2nd question should be in your system prefs somewhere
[10:17] <imbrandon> caustictwin: check gnome-look.org for splash screens
[10:17] <ompaul> caustictwin, one thing at a time - System Administration Disks
[10:17] <amac> do you have to do anything special to make use of dual cores on ubuntu?
[10:17] <imbrandon> no
[10:17] <sparkleytone> the default kernel is SMP, no?
[10:17] <voraistos> amac; what do u mean ?
[10:17] <intelikey> ompaul i see nothing on that page that pertains to fresh install of grub nor that error
[10:18] <amac> to use both cores, do you need a special kernel?
[10:18] <amac> smp right?
[10:18] <sparkleytone> amac: you shouldn't...iirc the default kernel is SMP
[10:18] <willwork4foo> amac, well - your kernel needs to be compiled to use smp.
[10:18] <amac> ok
[10:18] <imbrandon> amac: no you dont , optionaly you can install "sudo apt-get install linux-386-smp" or "linux-686-smp"
[10:18] <willwork4foo> then normal kernel is capable of being set up that way
[10:18] <sparkleytone> amac: do this "exec -o uname -a:
[10:18] <sparkleytone> amac: do this "/exec -o uname -a:
[10:18] <sparkleytone> the 2nd one
[10:18] <intelikey> so anyone got any idea why i would be getting this error "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" ?
[10:19] <sparkleytone> meh
[10:19] <vincenz> Ok
[10:19] <vincenz> hmm
[10:19] <sparkleytone> /exec -o uname -a
[10:19] <sparkleytone> there...damn its late
[10:19] <imbrandon> intelikey: becouse it cant find /boot
[10:19] <ompaul> intelikey, that is a howto install it, if you had an error what was the error number?
[10:19] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  grub-install /dev/hda
[10:19] <intelikey> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[10:20] <vincenz> I had to reinstall grub, so I booted with install cd... This however forced me to reinstall some packages and fialed halfway.  Then I rebooted with grub, it started installing more packages from cd in TTY1 while I was in gnome, even though tha failed partially... and now it does not recognize my eth1 (wireless) interface, HELP!
[10:20] <ciro> guys installing ubuntu with server option what kinda os will I install?
[10:20] <malachi> help me please!
[10:20] <hexagene> server is the base system
[10:20] <imbrandon> ciro: ubuntu with no gui ;)
[10:20] <hexagene> it doesn't include x windows or a "desktop"
[10:20] <voraistos> ciro; i am not sure ubuntu server is really good, but i didnt try it
[10:20] <sparkleytone> just the way i like my linux
[10:21] <sparkleytone> sans-X
[10:21] <claymore666> i can't seem to get winetools at all
[10:21] <claymore666> here http://ds80-237-203-29.dedicated.hos...9jo-III.tar.gz <--- not workin
[10:21] <hexagene> anybody running Dapper?
[10:21] <voraistos> me !
[10:21] <imbrandon> i'm running dapper why>?
[10:21] <eggzeck> ciro, just the 'base' system.
[10:21] <intelikey> i have apt-get -purge remove grub   and  reinstalled it on the system even rm'd /boot/grub  between  but it still gives the same error
[10:21] <ompaul> hexagene, into #ubuntu+1 for dapper conversations thanks
[10:21] <hexagene> new to ubuntu and figured I would start with that
[10:21] <complete> hey, i just installed ubuntu: however the failed while installing the packages. Now it says I need 145 updates, but I can't get them
[10:21] <mosi> Does anyone know of a repo where i can get GIMPshop?
[10:22] <ciro> imbrandon, hexagene voraistos so I choose to install everithing I want and do not installa something I dont need like openoffice 4 example
[10:22] <hexagene> how do I alter the config so that the domainname is altered depending on my location?
[10:22] <hexagene> work, home, etc ...
[10:22] <intelikey> is grub incapable of working on a disk without a partition table ?
[10:22] <imbrandon> ciro: exactly
[10:23] <imbrandon> intelikey: yes grub needs a system.map and a partition table
[10:23] <sparkleytone> complete: base-config
[10:23] <sparkleytone> intelikey: boot from a floppy :)
[10:23] <imbrandon> ubotu: tell mosi about repositories
[10:24] <complete> sparkleytone: permission denied
[10:24] <intelikey> well lilo it is then
[10:24] <sparkleytone> complete: sudo base-config
[10:24] <mosi> imbrandon: i have all the repos listed on the site, i was wondering if there are any others that might have it
[10:24] <hexagene> anybody? location dependent domains?
[10:24] <imbrandon> mosi not in an odicial repos , goggle it
[10:25] <complete> sparkleytone: ok...
[10:25] <sparkleytone> hexagene: you mean search domain?  your machine's locally configured domain name is pretty much inconsequential
[10:25] <hexagene> well not true
[10:25] <voraistos> hexagene; i really dont know about that. but u can configure your machine to depend of multiple domains for the same interface i think.
[10:25] <hexagene> for some of the stuff I do at work, it registers my fdqn in a directory
[10:25] <sparkleytone> complete: is it installing packages?
[10:26] <complete> sparkleytone: no nothing happened
[10:26] <imbrandon> hexagene: and if you mean samba domains then you will have to write a script that edits / changes the smb.conf
[10:26] <imbrandon> on boot
[10:26] <hexagene> not samba
[10:26] <hexagene> INET hostname
[10:26] <sparkleytone> hexagene: why does your fqdn come from your own machine?  just the nature of your setup?
[10:26] <hexagene> like hexagene.home.net vs hexagene.work.com
[10:26] <imbrandon> your fqdn should come from dns reverse lookup of your ip
[10:26] <eggzeck> night all
[10:26] <hexagene> yeah
[10:27] <hexagene> well it kinda calls gethostname
[10:27] <imbrandon> ouch, messy setup
[10:27] <hexagene> life is not perfect :-)
[10:27] <sparkleytone> complete: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base
[10:27] <hexagene> but agreed, it should use the reverse lookup
[10:28] <imbrandon> yea but in that sit you will ahve to hack a script to redo your hostname based on ip/something else on boot anyhow and load it in yout /etc/init.d scriptds
[10:28] <sparkleytone> heh...thats why i said inconsequential...def wouldnt expect that setup
[10:28] <borje> hi
[10:28] <complete> sparkleytone: nothing, just goes to next line
[10:28] <imbrandon> basicly hexagene with a non-standard setup like that you will need a non-standard script probbly self written ;)
[10:28] <sparkleytone> complete: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <hexagene> hmm, could do that, would be ideal to just adopt the dhcp dns domain
[10:29] <borje> I need flash-player and mplayer and corresponding plugins and codecs - How to proceed?
[10:29] <complete> sparkleytone: same thing
[10:29] <imbrandon> ubotu:  tell borje about restricted
[10:29] <Determinist> gotta love sitting out in the sun enjoying the wonders of wifi :P
[10:29] <sparkleytone> absolutely no feedback?
[10:29] <imbrandon> Determinist: yea except its 3am here ;)
[10:29] <complete> sparkleytone: nothing, just goes to next line
[10:29] <hexagene> hmm, no simple way to just grab the DHCP info ... darn
[10:30] <Determinist> imbrandon, yeah well, that could be a problem :)
[10:30] <sparkleytone> errrrm
[10:30] <sparkleytone> complete: sudo apt-get check
[10:30] <imbrandon> brb gonna grab some coffee and such
[10:31] <sparkleytone> seems like apt isn't even configured
[10:31] <sparkleytone> and base-config isn't doing anything...
[10:31] <complete> sparkleytone: same thing
[10:32] <sparkleytone> complete: i'm guessing your on a diff machine?
[10:32] <root__> hey there
[10:32] <wenko> I need a 'lil help please
[10:32] <ompaul> wenko, don't irc as root, it is not a good idea
[10:32] <wenko> lol...im in recouvery mode...
[10:32] <sparkleytone> heh ompaul beat me to it
[10:32] <complete> sparkleytone: no, it boots ok, but very few apps run, wont update
[10:33] <wenko> well...How do i fix the default resolution
[10:33] <wenko> its outside of that my monitor can handle
[10:33] <ompaul> !tell wenko about resolution
[10:33] <malachi> how do i fix this error: "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready"
[10:33] <sparkleytone> complete: in your irc client type this ... /exec -o uname -a
[10:34] <voraistos> wenko: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:34] <complete> Linux Jasal 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:34] <sparkleytone> k
[10:34] <wenko> im not in a gui dude
[10:34] <ompaul> wenko, also >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< and choose vesa as the card type
[10:34] <borje> it says mplayer has unsatisfied dependencies
[10:34] <ubuntu_> help
[10:34] <borje> is mplayer broken?
[10:34] <voraistos> wenko: damn, use vi... good luck
[10:34] <snoopy11hk> i need help
[10:34] <eggzeck> wenko, 'sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:34] <snoopy11hk> i wanna get back to windows
[10:34] <voraistos> wenko: or u may have a backup ?!
[10:35] <snoopy11hk> peoples, help me
[10:35] <ompaul> snoopy11hk, go to ##windows
[10:35] <eggzeck> wenko, but for new people 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:35] <wenko> ok thanks boys
[10:35] <wenko> lol I know vi its not a problem
[10:35] <vincenz> Hello
[10:35] <snoopy11hk> but now i am @ubuntu
[10:35] <vincenz> eth1 exists apparently
[10:35] <eggzeck> wenko, even better :)
[10:35] <vincenz> but whenever I do ifup eth1
[10:35] <voraistos> i am not sure vim is shipped with ubuntu, u will have to apt-get it
[10:35] <vincenz> or ifup ETH0
[10:35] <snoopy11hk> i wanna back to windows partition
[10:36] <vincenz> I get Unknown interface eth0=eth0
[10:36] <eggzeck> I should be sleeping
[10:36] <vincenz> I get Unknown interface eth1=eth1
[10:36] <eggzeck> night
[10:36] <wenko> thanks
[10:36] <snoopy11hk> which channel?
[10:36] <ompaul> snoopy11hk, #windows
[10:36] <snoopy11hk> ok
[10:36] <sparkleytone> ohhhhhhh
[10:36] <sparkleytone> complete
[10:36] <vincenz> Could anyone help?
[10:36] <sparkleytone> complete: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:37] <borje> can i put some universal line in apt sources.list to get rid of all ubuntu/debian stupidity?
[10:37] <vincenz> :/
[10:37] <zenit> I rather think this windows user just wants to choose at boot, maybe he didn't install grub?
[10:37] <claymore666> guys your wine setup walkthru "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585" doesn't work for me, the links are broken/ bad
[10:37] <vincenz> I'm having problems with my et0...
[10:37] <zenit> :)
[10:37] <sparkleytone> i don't use windows anymore, even at work where i support it
[10:37] <ompaul> vincenz, system administration networking and have a poke inthere for enabling the cards
[10:37] <hastesaver> borje, what does that mean?
[10:37] <vincenz> ompaul: where might I find this?
[10:37] <vincenz> ah ok
[10:37] <vincenz> nm
[10:37] <ompaul> vincenz, that is menu stuff
[10:37] <sparkleytone> complete: still there?
[10:37] <ompaul> !enter
[10:37] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:38] <borje> hastesaver, it means, that it will install the packages i want, without complaining over impossibilities
[10:38] <complete> sparkleytone: yeah, that's brought up distro info
[10:38] <ompaul> borje, ehh no you can put in the ubuntu line main restricted universe multiverse - but stuff outside of that may break your machine in new and interesting ways
[10:39] <HIGH-FREQ> how do i add a module to be auto loaded?   or do i just add the module into the /etc/modprobe.d/  directory
[10:39] <ompaul> borje, they are set up like that for a reason and it works
[10:39] <vincenz> ompaul: damn.... ipw2200 98.5% cpu, and my wifi-led keeps flickering
[10:39] <sparkleytone> so you have entries that look like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main" ?
[10:39] <sparkleytone> complete: ?
[10:39] <hastesaver> borje, if something is impossible, it obviously can't help complaining that it's impossible :)
[10:39] <borje> ompaul, well what is the use with ubuntu then, if you cannot use flash and you cannot use video and nothing works?
[10:39] <ompaul> !tell vincenz about wireless
[10:39] <hastesaver> borje, you can use everything
[10:40] <hastesaver> !tell borje about restricted
[10:40] <complete> sparkleytonw: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[10:40] <ompaul> borje, hehe, you read the page wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:40] <sparkleytone> complete: is that the only entry?
[10:40] <borje> hastesaver, i cannot see my video files and it wont play flash sites on mozilla :(
[10:40] <complete> sparkleytone: no there's a fair bit more
[10:40] <ompaul> borje, and implement them, give out the the makers of those items and if they get shouted at enough they may wake up
[10:40] <hastesaver> borje, did you read that page and follow the instructions?
[10:40] <tech_> !wine
[10:41] <borje> hastesaver, yeah, and it was unmet dependencies
[10:41] <sparkleytone> complete: are they full domain names or do they look like http://.archive.ubuntu........
[10:41] <HIGH-FREQ> how do i add a module to be auto loaded?   or do i just add the module into the /etc/modprobe.d/  directory
[10:41] <ompaul> voraistos, its not hard - wiki.ubuntu.com/ SomeThing if you know the something its really easy
[10:41] <sparkleytone> ?
[10:41] <borje> and flash-plugin was not to be found but some libflash
[10:41] <hastesaver> borje, can you pastebin the contents of  your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:41] <voraistos> ompaul: LOL
[10:42] <ompaul> !tell borje about easysource
[10:42] <sparkleytone> HIGH-FREQ: /etc/modules
[10:42] <HIGH-FREQ> aaah ok ;)
[10:42] <sparkleytone> HIGH-FREQ: # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[10:42] <HIGH-FREQ> k..gotcha
[10:42] <HIGH-FREQ> thx much
[10:42] <complete> they all seem to be full (http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu) but all say restricted
[10:42] <sparkleytone> welcome
[10:43] <sparkleytone> complete: thats fine...restricted is a repo
[10:43] <complete> sparkleytone: ok
[10:43] <ompaul> !tell complete about easysource
[10:43] <sparkleytone> complete: they aren't commented out?
[10:43] <sparkleytone> !tell sparkleytone about easysource
[10:43] <borje> i do apt-get install flash-plugin but it is not to be found - what is it called - try apt-cache search as well but to no avail :(
[10:44] <xnuke> hi
[10:44] <hastesaver> sparkleytone, to find out for yourself, it's better to type "/msg ubotu easysource"
[10:44] <wenko[Linux] > ok so i still cant get this thing to load up right
[10:44] <voraistos> borje: the damn adobe website is pure crap. dont bother with flash for the moment.
[10:44] <ompaul> sparkleytone, been there do >> /msg ubotu Factoid <<to see that - cuts down channel traffic
[10:44] <sparkleytone> lol cool
[10:44] <wenko[Linux] > the monitor is still out of range
[10:44] <hastesaver> borje, what is your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[10:44] <complete> sparkleytone: i don't know what that means, sorry
[10:44] <sparkleytone> it told me
[10:44] <ompaul> voraistos, we want a G rated channel please think BBC R4 saturday morning breakfast time :-)
[10:44] <sparkleytone> why would they style css on a linux page to include text-shadow???
[10:45] <sparkleytone> thats ridiculous.
[10:45] <vincenz> ompaul: muchas gracias,
[10:45] <concept10> Anyone Rails users here?
[10:45] <borje>  deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[10:45] <borje>  and deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse and deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted + the sources
[10:45] <ompaul> vincenz, enjoy
[10:45] <xnuke> looooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[10:45] <sparkleytone> complete: is there a # in front of the lines
[10:45] <voraistos> hastesaver; the adobe website is down, and for some reason there is no way to install the proper flash.
[10:46] <sparkleytone> the only browser i know that even renders the text-shadow is Safari
[10:46] <hastesaver> voraistos, what does flash have to do with adobe?
[10:46] <complete> sparkleytone: yes, except infront of the 2 security ones
[10:46] <sparkleytone> hastesaver: they own it
[10:46] <sparkleytone> complete: remove the #
[10:46] <voraistos> hastesaver: macromedia belongs to adobe
[10:46] <ompaul> sparkleytone, to they do cos they can - mac users can see the site
[10:46] <sparkleytone> ompaul: i know that much... i AM one ;)
[10:47] <hastesaver> voraistos, But I got flashplugin-nonfree from the multiverse repo, not from the flash's site
[10:47] <sparkleytone> complete: then put a # in front of the cdrom one...then sudo apt-get update
[10:47] <complete> sparkleytone: in the terminal?
[10:47] <voraistos> hastesaver: i know that, but for some reason it doesnt work!
[10:47] <hastesaver> borje, look at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:47] <sparkleytone> complete: the last part yeah
[10:47] <thug> hi all
[10:48] <complete> sparkleytone: i dont seem to be able to edit it
[10:48] <thug> i just installed ubuntu ... what do i need to install now to be able to run kde desktop? what packages ?
[10:48] <concept10> Anyone use SQLite?
[10:48] <sparkleytone> complete: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:48] <borje> grrr, ubuntu is not for me - i dislike it - too much restrictivity and reading
[10:48] <jtd_> restrictivity and reading?
[10:48] <sparkleytone> its probably a stretch to expect nano to be installed
[10:48] <thug> borje lool aint true
[10:48] <hastesaver> thug, kubuntu-desktop
[10:49] <thug> hastesaver its that it ?
[10:49] <sparkleytone> restrictivity ... totally not a word.
[10:49] <ompaul> borje, you have been thought the wrong things, restrictions are on the closed source side
[10:49] <borje> i will try to find a better distro
[10:49] <hastesaver> borje, what exactly is your problem now?
[10:49] <complete> sparkleytone: that asked for a password but then nothing
[10:49] <borje> i want mplayer and the codecs and flashplayer
[10:50] <sparkleytone> complete: insert cd...reinstall using the default install
[10:50] <jtd_> what you REALLY want is vlc. :)
[10:50] <hastesaver> borje, ok. I have mplayer and the codecs and flashplayer, so it can be done, and it is easy
[10:50] <complete> sparkleytone: ok, thanks
[10:50] <sparkleytone> complete: sorry
[10:50] <zcat[1] > sudo apt-get install mplayer-586 w32codecs flashplugin-nonfree
[10:50] <hastesaver> borje, first paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file somewhere (use pastebin)
[10:50] <zcat[1] > that was hard?
[10:51] <voraistos> borje; follow the damn howto, they tell u absolutly everything u have to do
[10:51] <voraistos> borje: just give up on flash for the moment
[10:51] <thug> zcat[1]  w32codecs its not available here
[10:51] <hastesaver> zcat[1] , he doesn't have multiverse I think, so it won't work
[10:51] <hastesaver> borje, no, don't give up on flash :)
[10:52] <zcat[1] > you may want java too; sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[10:52] <voraistos> borje; yes do, i did ! dont spend an entire week on that (*^*&^$^
[10:52] <hastesaver> voraistos, it only takes a few seconds! :p
[10:53] <zcat[1] > synaptic, config, add, check two boxes, apt-get a bunch of stuff.. what's the problem?!!
[10:53] <voraistos> hastesaver: no..... if i had a cam, i would send u the vids ;)
[10:53] <hastesaver> voraistos, if you do it right, it only takes a few seconds ;)
[10:53] <borje> hastesaver, it says the mplayer-586 is not available now but there is a reference to some other package??? (translating from swedish)
[10:53] <thug> zcat[1]  can you please paste your spurce.list on paste bin ? sun-j2re1.5 and  w32codecs are  not available here i did enable all the repos
[10:53] <voraistos> hastesaver; uninstall it completly, and reinstall from internet sources. u' ll see
[10:53] <hastesaver> borje, that is because your sources.list is not complete; please tell us what is in that file (paste it using pastebin)
[10:54] <borje> what is pastebin
[10:54] <zcat[1] > ahh.. come to think of it I think I added some other repos.. get source o matic to build a sources list for you..
[10:54] <zcat[1] > (mine won't help, I run dapper)
[10:54] <thug> zcat[1]  get what ?
[10:54] <hastesaver> !tell borje about pastebin
[10:54] <claymore666> peoples, i keep getting an error saying nautilus has unexpectedly quit
[10:54] <zcat[1] > google 'source o matic' and click the first result
[10:54] <claymore666> what's the deal ? :/
[10:55] <hastesaver> voraistos, Oh, flashplugin-nonfree tries to download it from Macromedia; I have flashplayer-mozilla installed
[10:55] <luke> can I play the x86 version of Enemy Terrirtory on my AMD64 machine? (amd64 kernel)
[10:55] <voraistos> borje; which version of ubuntu are u using ?
[10:56] <zcat[1] > hastesaver: depends how much flash you need.. the GPL flash plugin doesn't work on some sites.
[10:56] <hastesaver> zcat[1] , It's worked for me everywhere -- can you point me to a site where it doesn't work?
[10:56] <heartboy> on parle franais ici??
[10:56] <voraistos> the GPL works only a little bit. it makes my firefox crash actually
[10:56] <luke> i can play ut2004, but i just want to make sure ETx86 will run on my amd64 before I download the whole thing
[10:56] <zcat[1] > my kids are hassling me to set up windows mozilla with shockwave under wine so they can play some shockwave games now..
[10:56] <voraistos> moi oui ;)
[10:57] <zcat[1] > try neopets
[10:57] <hastesaver> zcat[1] , And I don't think flashplayer-mozilla is a GPL flash player; it *is* macromedia's flash that has been packaged, I think
[10:57] <borje> ok it is sent to paste.bin - sources.list for borje
[10:57] <zcat[1] > most of the games need macromedia's flash
[10:57] <heartboy> ok
[10:57] <claymore666> where else can i get winetools
[10:57] <heartboy> donc on peut coser!!
[10:57] <claymore666> apart from the one ubotu tells you to goto
[10:57] <voraistos> heartboy: ya un canal en francais, surement #ubuntu-fr
[10:57] <heartboy> ah bon!
[10:58] <hastesaver> borje, good! Now do this -- go to http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:58] <borje> i am there
[10:58] <voraistos> heartboy: oui, parceque bon si je continue je vais me faire engueuler ;)
[10:58] <ompaul> !fr
[10:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:58] <vmadmin> hey
[10:58] <voraistos> ompaul: i just told him ;)
[10:59] <heartboy> ok
[10:59] <ompaul> voraistos, what is the french for Doh!, tres bien
[10:59] <zcat[1] > je ne sais pas!
[10:59] <fm_> hi
[10:59] <voraistos> ompaul: no translation for Doh! this is a hommer simpson thing
[11:00] <zcat[1] > btw it's spelled D'oh!
[11:00] <vmadmin> trying to understand how out of a toal 768MB RAM I am useing 230 MB RAM just for ubuntu server with fluxbox?
[11:00] <fm_> has anybody achieved to rotate its display under ubuntu?
[11:00] <voraistos> rotate?
[11:00] <fm_> yes, with xrandr
[11:00] <zcat[1] > vmadmin: If you're not using it for anything else, linux will suck it up as cache rather than leave it wasted..
[11:00] <voraistos> are u crazy? dont talk about scary things like that !
[11:01] <fm_> huh?
[11:01] <voraistos> fm_: i dunno about rotating, but graphics under linux are... well.....
[11:01] <zcat[1] > fm_: you mean compiz? hell yeah!! running it now.
[11:02] <fm_> lol u're damn right voraistos
[11:02] <fm_> unfortunately
[11:02] <zcat[1] > All hail Quinn, godess of the 3d desktop!
[11:02] <claymore666> can anyone seem to connect to http://ds80-237-203-29.dedicated.hosteurope.de/wt/winetools-0.9jo-III.tar.gz
[11:02] <claymore666> cause i cant :/
[11:03] <DBO> God...ess?  I assumed quinn was a dude
[11:03] <vmadmin> zcat(1) cache  umm ok  is cached RAM userable and how for example in a vmWARE SITUATION?
[11:03] <voraistos> quinn isnt a girl's name ?
[11:03] <hastesaver> zcat[1] , btw, I just checked neopets as you said, it works for me :p
[11:03] <vmadmin> DBO: hi never assume
[11:03] <voraistos> lol
[11:04] <zcat[1] > hastesaver: some games work, many don't.. a few need shockwave
[11:04] <hastesaver> voraistos, you're thinking of "queen" :)
[11:04] <DBO> vmadmin, around here quinn is more commonly a boys name..
[11:04] <hastesaver> zcat[1] , give an example
[11:04] <ompaul> OY! first off its a surname and second off offtopic
[11:04] <zcat[1] > dunno.. ask Cairo :)
[11:04] <DBO> right
[11:04] <voraistos> nope. i met the queen of england. i know what it looks like.
[11:04] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:04] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:04] <vmadmin> DBO: OK over its irish and its a surname
[11:05] <zcat[1] > Quinn Storm ?
[11:05] <pavlix> Hi ubuntu people
[11:05] <hastesaver> borje, still there?
[11:05] <kevor> fm_: i got the solution: put Option "RandrRotation" "on" in your Device section in the xorg.con file
[11:05] <kevor> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21185.html
[11:05] <miracle> Hi?
[11:05] <zcat[1] > ontopic, since QuinnStorm is person who repackages compiz for ubuntu :-P
[11:06] <vmadmin> zcat(1) talk to me please about cached RAM
[11:06] <hastesaver> ompaul, you don't need to be op to type !offtopic, do you? ;)
[11:06] <heartboy> can i have VNC on uboutu??
[11:06] <ompaul> hastesaver, no but I might be hinting at something ... if you get my drift
[11:06] <fm_> thx kevor I'll try this
[11:07] <zcat[1] > vmadmin: Idon't know much, other than afaik linux uses anything spare as cache.. not sure how this applies to you. lots of ram in use doesn't always mean it can't easily be freed up if required somewhere else.
[11:08] <ompaul> vmadmin, the idea is that ram is faster than disk, pograms get loaded and do not get really junked even when turned off the cache is available if something can be cached it will be
[11:08] <hastesaver> heartboy, yes. Type "/msg ubotu vnc" for the instructions
[11:08] <heartboy> ok thnaks
[11:09] <vmadmin> heartboy: yes see http://www.howtoforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=5
[11:10] <hastesaver> zcat[1] , are you *sure* there is some flash thing linux won't play? I haven't seen any examples
[11:10] <miracle> well, is flash still popular?
[11:11] <ompaul> miracle, it is in some multimedia training situations
[11:11] <wenko> how do I update firefox
[11:12] <hastesaver> miracle, unfortunately, it is with some people
[11:12] <voraistos> hey! i was thinking, cant we install flash like shockwave, in a wine/mozilla plugin ?
[11:12] <vmadmin> ompaul: ok but when i run "free" command the amount that is used say for example 230MB RAM so if i minus that from total 710 mb RAM the diffrence is avilable for ie visualization?
[11:12] <hastesaver> !tell wenko about firefox1.5
[11:12] <zcat[1] > There's some things the GPL plugin can't handle.  And there's no native shockwave plugin, but you can run windows firefox with the windows shockwave plugin under wine..
[11:12] <AlmtyBob> ivtv isn't loading my firmware, I think it's looking for a FIRMWARE_DIR but my firmware.agent only has FIRMWARE_DIRS
[11:12] <AlmtyBob> can I add FIRMWARE_DIR or smth to that file?
[11:12] <AlmtyBob> or fix it another day?
[11:13] <AlmtyBob> day=way
[11:13] <ompaul> vmadmin, start running multiple instances of OO and one of emacs watch that number increase
[11:13] <zcat[1] > trust me, cairo found a game last weekend that wouldn't play and made me install the nonfree package so it would work
[11:13] <hastesaver> zcat[1] , I don't know about the GPL plugin; but the plugin I installed with the package "flashplayer-mozilla" from multiverse has played everything I've ever seen
[11:13] <hastesaver> zcat[1] , Yes, this one is nonfree too :)
[11:13] <thug> zcat[1]  i just create the source list  and paste it into source.list and i still cannot find sun-j2re1.5 and w32codecs  any ideea ?
[11:13] <zcat[1] > yeah, not sure which one I installed.. the nonfree one definately works.
[11:14] <zcat[1] > apt-get update
[11:14] <voraistos> thug : click reload in the synaptic
[11:14] <voraistos> lol
[11:14] <zcat[1] > .. or that.
[11:14] <vmadmin> ompaul: at the end of the day to run vmware i need more RAM
[11:14] <thug> voraistos lool did
[11:14] <zcat[1] > what repos did you add?
[11:14] <ompaul> STOP A SEC, if Java / Codecs / Flash Look at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats there are detailed instructions from beginning to end on almost anything
[11:15] <ompaul> or
[11:15] <ompaul> !easyubuntu
[11:15] <ompaul> !+easyubuntu
[11:15] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/. If you want to chat about EasyUbuntu, please join #easyubuntu
[11:15] <voraistos> isnt easy ubuntu like Automatix ?
[11:15] <ompaul> voraistos, no
[11:15] <ompaul> !automatix
[11:15] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[11:15] <thug> zcat[1]  http://pastebin.com/703170
[11:15] <jtd_> !easyubuntu
[11:15] <zcat[1] > "by default" != "click on everything like most Windows users do"
[11:16] <ompaul> jtd_, its scroll back a few lines there
[11:16] <voraistos> i know that automatix screws people's systems ;)
[11:17] <ompaul> please cease with the ramblings, as I have said conversations in #ubuntu-offtopic this is a support channel
[11:17] <thug> zcat[1]  would you have a look at that file please ?
[11:17] <vmadmin> ompaul: for my labtop 1gig of RAM is 90 in the shop called PC world
[11:17] <thug> vmadmin :))
[11:17] <jtd_> I gott say
[11:17] <thug> vmadmin from UK ?
[11:18] <vmadmin> thug: yep
[11:18] <jtd_> easyUbuntu looks pretty frickin' amazing
[11:18] <ompaul> vmadmin, I would be using xen if its linux based
[11:18] <vmadmin> ompaul; it is an why would you use Xen  please
[11:18] <zcat[1] > thug: add Seveas' packages I think.. or take a look at what ompaul posted :)
[11:19] <thug> can someone please have a look at my source.list and tell me what repos do i have to add so i can get sun-j2re1.5 and w32codecs ? ( http://pastebin.com/703170 )
[11:19] <ompaul> vmadmin, because you can, and it OSS and xen is virtualisation
[11:19] <zcat[1] > any of the repos that claim to have flash/java/w32codecs in them ;)
[11:19] <jayanta> hay
[11:19] <hastesaver> thug, are you sure you don't have it already?
[11:20] <thug> zcat[1]  well i know that .. but you guys said multiverse has it
[11:20] <thug> hastesaver dont have what ? sun-j2re1.5 and w32codecs ?
[11:20] <zcat[1] > I thought multiverse did .. at least w32codecs and flash anyhow.
[11:20] <miracle> the flash/java/w32codec is the pain of the free source
[11:20] <vmadmin> ompaul; my family use the computer sometimes and they need windows Xen does not support windows?
[11:20] <jtd_> don't you have to *start* with Xen if you're going to use it?
[11:20] <ompaul> vmadmin, okay so then why vm when dual boot will do
[11:20] <jtd_> i.e. you can't install it after the fact
[11:21] <hastesaver> thug, yes. Try the seveas source and/or the ftp.free.fr one
[11:21] <mikedep333> hey, what's the general linux command to list all the hardware info?
[11:21] <ompaul> mikedep333, go to /proc and look about there
[11:21] <zcat[1] > mikedep333: lshw
[11:21] <thug> so no one know what repos do i need to add to my source.list to be able to install sun-j2re1.5 and w32codecs ?
[11:22] <zcat[1] > lspci is also fairly informative
[11:22] <vmadmin> ompaul: because i am going to run postfix server in linux with a windows sofware package (win2003 server in vm
[11:22] <imbrandon> !restricted
[11:22] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:22] <mikedep333> I see some ls* stuff that would help
[11:22] <wenko> ...quick question...Im trying to log onto check my email in a webmail client in firefox...the old version of firefox let me in, but I cant seem to open the site now because it tells me that the site does not have any compatible encryption
[11:22] <hastesaver> thug, I already told you -- the seveas repo has them, and the ftp.free.fr repo also have them
[11:22] <zcat[1] > thug: add Seveas' packages or read what ompaul posted
[11:22] <ompaul> vmadmin, okay
[11:23] <zcat[1] > .. or both.
[11:23] <thug> zcat[1]  i tryed easyubuntu couple of weeks ago and it didnt work
[11:23] <vmadmin> ompaul; i agree that Xen would be better in some respects
[11:23] <mikedep333> hmm, ok, I just want to identify my hard drive model from the command line
[11:23] <ompaul> thug Look at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats there are detailed instructions from beginning to end on almost anything or go to #easyubuntu
[11:24] <zcat[1] > easyubuntu isn't as easy as it could be.. I prefer adding a few repos and using apt-get or synaptic
[11:24] <heartboy> i can't read
[11:24] <ompaul> zcat[1] , file a bug on it in launchpad
[11:24] <heartboy> media files like mp3
[11:24] <zcat[1] > I sent the developers some suggestions.. apparently they went to /dev/null :(
[11:25] <imbrandon> ubotu: tell heartboy about restricted
[11:25] <zcat[1] > I was very polite too.
[11:25] <vmadmin> ompaul: i am tempted to do an experiment to set up xen then try to run vm workstation or server inside of xen or visa vera but not sure that it would work--just to know really
[11:25] <ompaul> vmadmin, thats just perverse :)
[11:26] <teletubbie> can .ogg be used for video files?
[11:26] <vmadmin> ompaul: maybe then persion is a subject that is offtopic
[11:26] <vmadmin> perversion
[11:26] <zcat[1] > ogg's a media container, you can put all kinds of media in it.
[11:26] <voraistos> ogg can be used in ogm container
[11:26] <zcat[1] > == yes
[11:26] <claymore666> is it a must to install IE6 with wintools ?
[11:26] <voraistos> use ogg and xvid in ogm
[11:27] <hexagene> has the x-window-system-dev meta packate been removed from dapper?
[11:27] <vmadmin> ompaul: FC5 and suse 10.1 have Xen built in
[11:27] <wenko> anyone know why firefox wont let me on to a site...it says it doesnt share any encrpytion methods with the sire
[11:27] <wenko> site
[11:28] <ompaul> hexagene, go to the dapper channel #ubuntu+1 thanks
[11:28] <ompaul> vmadmin, and so will eft
[11:28] <hexagene> okay
[11:28] <mikedep333> wenko: make sure you have all the SSL options
[11:28] <vmadmin> ompaul; ok thats the new 1 june release
[11:28] <mikedep333> enabled
[11:28] <ompaul> vmadmin, stick the conversation in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:28] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[11:28] <ompaul> vmadmin,  thats october
[11:29] <zcat[1] > eft == october?
[11:29] <ompaul> zcat[1] , edgy eft october
[11:29] <vmadmin> ompaul; you know better than me offtopic or not
[11:29] <wenko> mikedep I do
[11:29] <mikedep333> wenko: and TLS enabled
[11:30] <mikedep333> what site is this?
[11:30] <wenko> webmail.shaw.ca
[11:30] <wenko> http://webmail.shaw.ca
[11:30] <vmadmin> ompaul; october like waiting for paint to dry
[11:30] <mikedep333> ok
[11:30] <mikedep333> it gives me the warning that it is using low grade encyption
[11:31] <mikedep333> you're not using an unstable version of firefox are you? they're removing support for old encyption schemes in browsers
[11:32] <mikedep333> note that my copy of firefox is in windows at the moment
[11:32] <mikedep333> <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:32] <ompaul> !enter
[11:32] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:33] <zcat[1] > It's encrypted with Smithy Code :)
[11:33] <borje> thanx all :)
[11:33] <borje> still need sound in mozilla firefox what codecs is that?
[11:34] <zcat[1] > medai plugin.. peobably gstreamer.
[11:34] <zcat[1] > *media
[11:34] <vmadmin> are the people who work on the unbuntu project paid ?
[11:34] <dell500> is it possible to get multiple instances of kaffeine?
[11:34] <hastesaver> totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin ?
[11:34] <zcat[1] > probably :)
[11:35] <vmadmin> ompaul; whats the reason for this
[11:35] <ompaul> read your quit message
[11:36] <vmadmin> its my first visit hows was i to know
[11:36] <zcat[1] > it wasn't your first warning?
[11:36] <ompaul> I said it several times - conversation over
[11:37] <PwcrLinux> Hello
[11:37] <zcat[1] > and also (at risk of being kicked myself) it's in the topic too..
[11:37] <borje> so, there is no mplayer-plugin for ubuntu?
[11:37] <eobanb> hi, PwcrLinux
[11:38] <eobanb> borje, yes, there is
[11:38] <thug> borje what kind of plugin ?
[11:38] <jorgepeixotomora> Hi guys. I have burnt an ISO to a cd, and when i use gnomebaker to extract an ISO from the cd, it complains that a certain sector cant be read. When i dd if=/dev/hdc of=file.iso the md5sums do not match. I then tried another cd, and the exact same thing happens(even with the same md5sum). What's going on?
[11:38] <zcat[1] > borje: I think there is
[11:38] <DesTroYed> hey all ma problem is how to switch between two diff languages i hv arabic n English in ma keyboard support n wanna switch between them by any useful way like alt+left or RightShit
[11:38] <PwcrLinux> for short time to checking out on each servers :)
[11:38] <DesTroYed> So Anyone ?
[11:38] <eobanb> jorgepeixotomora, sounds like you might have a bad disc.
[11:38] <borje> thug, to get sound for instance in flahsplayer etc.
[11:38] <zcat[1] > mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[11:38] <ompaul> jorgepeixotomora, just right click on the iso image in nautilus and nurn
[11:38] <eobanb> er, bad drive
[11:39] <hastesaver> borje, mplayerplug-in
[11:39] <TheChater> alt-shift
[11:39] <ompaul> jorgepeixotomora, burn at low speed (I will now go break my fingers for that typo) :-)
[11:39] <zcat[1] > mozilla plugin should also work for firefox
[11:39] <DesTroYed> TheChater yes somth like wut in windows
[11:39] <borje> thanx hastesaver
[11:39] <DesTroYed> TheChater as am tryin to switch by alt+shift
[11:39] <DesTroYed> n itsnt workin By The Way ....
[11:40] <TheChater> check language settings
[11:40] <PwcrLinux> Hmmm I smelled something burns.. brb
[11:40] <jorgepeixotomora> I told gnomebaker to burn at 1x, but the logs show that it burned at 8x...
[11:40] <zcat[1] > my wife burned some CD's the other day.. I left them on the woodstove and she didn't check before she lit it..
[11:40] <ompaul> jorgepeixotomora, well what I said was use the burner in nautilus right click on the iso and use low speed, see if that works for you
[11:41] <DesTroYed> did that for switchin between the languages i hv to open sys then administration then keyboard then keyboard layout n choose the language whick i wanna type all that Temp Sure n then reset all to the defaults again
[11:41] <JinRoh> Hello
[11:41] <DesTroYed> sure its hardly wen i wanna browsin arabic n English sites :S
[11:41] <eobanb> hi, JinRoh
[11:41] <jorgepeixotomora> ill try that.
[11:42] <PwcrLinux> back
[11:42] <vmadmin> zcat(1) and thats topic is it
[11:42] <DesTroYed> TheChater Soo .....
[11:42] <zcat[1] > umm.. sorry
[11:43] <TheChater> so, I don't know. What version of Win are you using?
[11:43] <oxigen> i cant browse https urls with mozilla, what do i need to install?
[11:43] <vmadmin> ompaul/zcat(1) thanks for your feedback on RAM question before
[11:44] <DesTroYed> TheChater am not talkin abt win :S
[11:44] <TheChater> oh, sorry
[11:44] <JinRoh> SomeOne Know Why I don't have sound in ET? I had sound yesterday, and I have tried with echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss but I don't have sound, it says System Sound Is Muted
[11:44] <DesTroYed> am talkin abt is there any way like win to switch between lanuages
[11:44] <JinRoh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13561
[11:44] <zcat[1] > mozilla-psm I think.
[11:45] <eobanb> JinRoh, what's ET
[11:45] <JinRoh> Enemy Territory
[11:45] <TheChater> maybe are other opinions about switching languages...
[11:45] <DesTroYed> like
[11:45] <DesTroYed> ....
[11:46] <oxigen> zcat[1] , Package mozilla-psm is not available, ... :/
[11:46] <eobanb> oxigen, http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/web/mozilla-psm
[11:46] <eobanb> seems to be
[11:46] <JinRoh> someone know why I don't have sound?
[11:46] <oxigen> eobanb thank you
[11:47] <PwcrLinux> okay.. going to get some of sleep.. have a great day :)
[11:47] <eobanb> JinRoh, try this
[11:47] <eobanb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:47] <zcat[1] > JinRoh: missing modules, mixer turned down.. ?
[11:48] <protocol1> protocol1@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get  upgrade
[11:48] <protocol1> Reading package lists... Done
[11:48] <protocol1> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:48] <protocol1> The following packages have been kept back:
[11:48] <protocol1>   akregator ark artsbuilder kaddressbook kamera kappfinder karm kate
[11:48] <protocol1>   kaudiocreator kcontrol kcron kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork
[11:48] <protocol1>   kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins
[11:48] <protocol1>   kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs4c2 kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins
[11:48] <eobanb> !paste
[11:48] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[11:48] <protocol1>   kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
[11:48] <protocol1>   kdepasswd kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdesktop kdm kfind
[11:48] <zcat[1] > argh!
[11:48] <protocol1>   kghostview khelpcenter kicker klaptopdaemon klipper kmail kmenuedit kmilo
[11:48] <eobanb> protocol1, stop
[11:48] <protocol1>   kmix knetworkconf knotes konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole
[11:48] <protocol1>   kontact kooka kopete korganizer kpdf kpf kpoker kppp krdc krfb kscd
[11:48] <protocol1>   kscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash ksvg ksysguard
[11:48] <eobanb> protocol1, STOP
[11:48] <protocol1>   ksysguardd ktux kuser kwalletmanager kwifimanager kwin libclamav1 libkcddb1
[11:48] <protocol1>   libkdegames1 libkonq4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
[11:48] <eobanb> !ops
[11:48] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:48] <protocol1>   libksieve0 libktnef1
[11:48] <protocol1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 79 not upgraded.
[11:48] <protocol1> sorry
[11:48] <eobanb> you really need to be more careful.
[11:48] <soundray> Do people ever read the Topic?
[11:49] <protocol1> what does that mean if I might ask?
[11:49] <eobanb> if you read it you'd see it says, 'Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/'
[11:49] <zcat[1] > it means try apt-get dist-upgrade I think :)
[11:50] <DesTroYed> heey Anyone @_@ how To Switch bewteen Two Differents languages usin keyboard keys ?
[11:50] <zephyrus> hey PsyberOne
[11:50] <zephyrus> where you at in illinois?
[11:50] <nalioth> protocol1: if you see you are flooding, leave the channel until it stops, please
[11:51] <mikedep333> can anyone tell me how to identify the model number of my hard drive from the command line?
[11:51] <nalioth> mikedep333: install smartmontools and run smartctl
[11:51] <zcat[1] > mikedep333: it's probably in dmesg
[11:51] <protocol1> nalioth, Im truly sorry....that was a bit stupid on my part
[11:51] <zcat[1] > I think hdparm will also tell you..
[11:51] <DesTroYed> heey Anyone @_@ how To Switch bewteen Two Differents languages usin keyboard keys ?
[11:51] <soundray> DesTroYed: dmesg | grep hda
[11:51] <mikedep333> I'm using knoppix at the moment, it has smartctl
[11:52] <DesTroYed> soundray Wut ?
[11:52] <mikedep333> oh, here we go
[11:52] <soundray> DesTroYed: sry, didn't mean you
[11:52] <ferronica> hi
[11:52] <zcat[1] > DesTroYed: that was for mikedep333
[11:52] <DesTroYed> soundray aha Okay No Problem
[11:52] <mikedep333> dmesg got it, thanks
[11:52] <DesTroYed> zcat[1]  Okay No Problem
[11:52] <DesTroYed> By The Way Anyone know a solution for ma prob ?
[11:52] <zcat[1] > it's probably also in lshw
[11:52] <ferronica> help!!
[11:53] <zcat[1] > DesTroYed: nope..
[11:53] <DesTroYed> how To Switch bewteen Two Differents languages usin keyboard keys ? ?
[11:53] <DesTroYed> Hmmm kz
[11:53] <soundray> DesTroYed: there is a way to switch between keyboard groups. Look at keyboard preferences
[11:53] <soundray> !helpme
[11:53] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[11:53] <DesTroYed> soundray Okay Thanks i will try now
[11:54] <ferronica> how to install applications in ubuntu like windows???
[11:54] <eobanb> !tell Ferronica about apt
[11:54] <zcat[1] > linux is not windows :)
[11:54] <Kennie> tnx god it isnt
[11:55] <ThreeFinity> Is there a way that I can download and mount the ubuntu cd image from within the livecd environment to replace the CD for an install?
[11:55] <zcat[1] > or did you want to run windows apps in ubuntu? that would be wine...
[11:55] <hajuu> whats the difference between anacron and cron? anacron repeats?
[11:55] <ThreeFinity> my cd image has corrupted files on it
[11:55] <ThreeFinity> so I can't install from the CD
[11:56] <ThreeFinity> I can run the livecd environment though
[11:56] <ThreeFinity> and setup my network obviously
[11:56] <eobanb> ThreeFinity, so re-download it?
[11:56] <ThreeFinity> can't
[11:56] <soundray> ThreeFinity: I don't think it's possible. It would be good if it was, though.
[11:56] <ThreeFinity> no OS
[11:56] <paniq> hey, how do i get xchat 2.6 for breezy badger?
[11:56] <eobanb> ThreeFinity, you said you could boot from the livecd
[11:56] <DesTroYed> soundray Thanks alooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
[11:56] <DesTroYed> its workin now
[11:56] <DesTroYed> He He He
[11:56] <ThreeFinity> yes I can boot from the liveCD
[11:56] <eobanb> ThreeFinity, do you have two CD drives?
[11:56] <ThreeFinity> yes
[11:56] <eobanb> so what's the problem?
[11:56] <DesTroYed> any time for prayin in egypt C Ya all after prayer
[11:56] <paniq> hey, how do i get xchat 2.6 for ubuntu 5.10?
[11:56] <hajuu> whats the difference between anacron and cron? anacron repeats?
[11:56] <ThreeFinity> 1 burner 1 dvd
[11:57] <soundray> ThreeFinity: you could try a server install and see if that runs through in spite of the corrupted files
[11:57] <ThreeFinity> good idea
[11:57] <ThreeFinity> so hmm
[11:57] <eobanb> ThreeFinity, so boot from the livecd, re-download the image, burn the image to a blank disc, and install from that new disc
[11:57] <soundray> DesTroYed: I like to be the reason for such enthusiasm ;)
[11:57] <ThreeFinity> how can I burn the image from the livecd ?
[11:57] <ThreeFinity> soundray it fails the files on the base system installation
[11:57] <InfraredNosedRei> Hi everybody! How do I use/install Canon Pixma iP1500 under ubuntu/edubuntu 5.10?
[11:57] <ThreeFinity> on ..glibc I believe
[11:58] <protocol1> paniq, i would recommend that you find a repository with that version
[11:58] <eobanb> ThreeFinity, you said you had two drives.  you boot the liveCD from the DVD drive, and burn the image with a blank disc in the RW drive
[11:58] <zcat[1] > ThreeFinity: if you have two cd drives
[11:58] <soundray> ThreeFinity: with nautilus, you can burn an iso
[11:58] <Jimmey__> I've just installed GRUB to the MBR (hd0), but I can guarantee that when I boot up ( without using the liveCD ), it will say that the boot sector's invalid. What's the problem?
[11:58] <zcat[1] > make a small partition, download the ISO to it,burn a new CD
[11:58] <ThreeFinity> does nautilus work in command line?
[11:58] <eobanb> ThreeFinity, no..
[11:58] <Jimmey__> And how can I edit the menu.lst of grub installed to the MBR?
[11:58] <ThreeFinity> well the livecd environment is command line only
[11:58] <eobanb> Jimmey__, with a text editor?
[11:59] <eobanb> ThreeFinity, uh, no..
[11:59] <soundray> Jimmey__: it's in your ubuntu root, in /boot/grub/
[11:59] <ThreeFinity> erm
[11:59] <ThreeFinity> the boot environment
[11:59] <zcat[1] > cdrecord is textmode
[11:59] <ThreeFinity> when Is tick in the disk for the install
[11:59] <Jimmey__> Will it be on the partition I defined as "root" in the grub prompt?
[11:59] <eobanb> ThreeFinity, ...?
[11:59] <ThreeFinity> I'm not running the actual 700mb livecd
[11:59] <ThreeFinity> I'm using the installcd
[11:59] <eobanb> ...
[11:59] <soundray> Jimmey__: you mount the ubuntu root with 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt', then edit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst (replace hda1 appropriately)
[11:59] <eobanb> that's totally different, ThreeFinity
[11:59] <zcat[1] > for future reference md5sum your iso's before you burn them :)
[11:59] <ThreeFinity> my bad
[11:59] <ThreeFinity> sorta noobish
[12:00] <eobanb> the liveCD is the liveCD
[12:00] <ThreeFinity> k
[12:00] <ThreeFinity> so from the boot installer environment
[12:00] <to0om> hi folks, why can't i play mp3s with xine although i have all w32codecs installed?
[12:00] <ThreeFinity> can I download the installcd image
[12:00] <eobanb> ThreeFinity, you're going to have to find another computer and burn the disc.  if you have no OS on the drive and no working install CD i dont see what you can really do
[12:00] <ThreeFinity> mount it to a temp dir
[12:00] <ThreeFinity> then change the location of the intallation media
[12:00] <ThreeFinity> to the temp dir with the image?