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[01:24] <tsimonq2> Hi Britney, what is your major malfunction?
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[02:58] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-backports: Please reject lsp-plugins: forgot to add the bug number. #epicfail
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[03:01] <Eickmeyer> ^ That's the correct one.
[03:02]  * Eickmeyer pings teward because backporter
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[07:41] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, are you sure your ocaml kicks and removals are working?
[07:51] <LocutusOfBorg> bdrung, hello, did you remove me from videolan launchpad group?
[07:51] <LocutusOfBorg> I was adding oracular to master-daily recipe and found no way to change the repo
[07:52] <LocutusOfBorg> https://code.launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily I'm even mentioned in the page
[07:59] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: roadmap sprint week, I'm not even sure I did what I said I was going to after we last spoke
[08:04] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: maybe I stalled out because I was getting 504s from rmadison the other day (and I am again)
[08:10] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: fixed the 504s; removed the s390x binaries
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[08:43] <LocutusOfBorg> oh thanks!
[08:43] <LocutusOfBorg> btw the transition page still doesn't show armhf...
[08:43] <LocutusOfBorg> not sure why
[08:44] <LocutusOfBorg> sadly vorlon the same removals needs to happen now on armhf too :/
[08:45] <vorlon> orly
[08:45] <LocutusOfBorg> yeah, I was happy to mention only s390x...
[08:45] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: is it not buildable on armhf or has the build not been attempted yet?
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[08:45] <vorlon> it looks like we just need to try to build it
[08:47] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: ok so ubuntu-transition-tracker-configs should just need deployed; looking
[08:47] <LocutusOfBorg> I pushed the tracker git repo, but yes might need some pulling
[08:47] <vorlon> although I guess that should auto-pull, otherwise how would new transitions show up?
[08:48] <LocutusOfBorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coq-elpi/2.1.0-1build1/+build/28430900
[08:48] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, ^^
[08:48] <LocutusOfBorg> its a ftbfs
[08:48] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: ok
[08:48] <LocutusOfBorg> ubuntu-archive-tools?
[08:49] <LocutusOfBorg> transition has last commit revno: 1117, from me   Add back armhf as architecture for oracular, reverting revision 1110
[08:49] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe I did some mistake
[08:56] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: well that code is deployed already and looks correct to me
[08:56] <LocutusOfBorg> Page generated by Ben 0.9.2ubuntu5~20.04.1 on Wed, 08 May 2024 13:55:37 +0000; bzr branch lp:ubuntu-transition-tracker
[08:56] <LocutusOfBorg> LOL
[08:57] <LocutusOfBorg> look at the timestamp....
[08:57] <vorlon> yeah
[08:57] <LocutusOfBorg> somebody stopped ben?
[08:57] <vorlon> I don't know why it's failing
[08:57] <vorlon> no, it doesn't get stopped
[08:57] <LocutusOfBorg> crashing ben?
[08:57] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry without access to the server I'm not helpful
[08:58] <vorlon> I'm testing it now
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[11:14] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dPzpdbG82z/
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[11:44] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, mozc is removed?
[11:46] <LocutusOfBorg> I don't know where this auto-transitioner.py is stored...
[11:49] <LocutusOfBorg> so, mozc is not removed correctly, or the mirror still reference it
[11:49] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe the copy back of armhf copied it?
[11:51] <LocutusOfBorg> I even contributed to that auto transitinoner, found it
[11:51] <LocutusOfBorg> but I don't know how and with which parameters is called
[11:51] <LocutusOfBorg> last commit 2020
[12:03] <LocutusOfBorg> I pushed the last changes from debian salsa.d.o into the repo
[12:04] <LocutusOfBorg> oops can't git push
[12:10] <LocutusOfBorg> anyway vorlon https://code.launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/auto-transition/+git/auto-transition/+ref/master
[12:10] <LocutusOfBorg> the move to python3 might help some bits
[12:22] <tjaalton> ricotz: oracular doesn't have libreoffice 24.2.3 yet, but rc2?
[12:28] <ricotz> tjaalton, hi, 24.2.3 final is identical to rc2 (mentioned in the SRU), next week there will be a 24.2.4 rc1 for oracular
[12:29] <ricotz> so please ignore the lower version in oracular
[12:30] <tjaalton> ok
[12:34] <ricotz> thanks for reviewing libreoffice!
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[16:34] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, do you remember that ubuntu-build --retry with no parameters is failing to retry all the failed builds?
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[16:55] <tjaalton> vorlon: did the u-d-t uploads have pycache cruft that I failed to notice? :)
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[16:57] <tjaalton> oh, runtime deps..
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[23:14] <mandle> can anyone tell me why the live environment would be there on my install? did my install, rebooted, logged in, it asked me if i wanted to try or install kubuntu? Had to do some tricky stuff to get it installed, (boot is on nvme and root is on raid0 array) but I'm used to that. anyone have any ideas? not an issue, as I'd rather boot into x11 and that seems to work just fine, but curious if anyone else has seen this?
[23:14] <wxl> mandle: i'd suggest checking in at #kubuntu
[23:16] <mandle> i did...no ones home apparently.
[23:17] <wxl> usually you have to wait. this is certainly the wrong channel
[23:19] <mandle> let me rephrase. has anyone seen something similar with their install?
[23:19] <wxl> well i mean you can't even necessarily guarantee that anyone here actually uses kubuntu :)
[23:19] <wxl> that said, no
[23:20] <mandle> with any flavour....
[23:20] <wxl> *n*o*
[23:26] <mandle> well, thanks for the response anyway.


[18:00] <Len-nb> ScottL doesn't seem to be around much these days... I think he lost one of his computers. Should someone notice him here, please mention he has email at his gmail account.


[04:58] <mih1406> I have submitted my feature request for Ubuntu One, I believe it is a great addition to Ubuntu One's future!! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/1058900
[10:15] <bennylb0> Is there anyone else on here using lubuntu with high spec hardware because of it's superior response and power efficiency compared to gnome or kde?
[10:24] <silverarrow> hi
[10:24] <silverarrow> there are a few who prefer the lxde desktop
[10:25] <silverarrow> it does have it`s share of things that needs attention
[10:26] <silverarrow> it is rather good now
[10:28] <bennylb0> I've just switched from using openbox standalone. I think lxde desktop with openbox window manager is a better package.
[10:51] <silverarrow> ubuntu has been very sluggish on some systems
[10:51] <silverarrow> I often suspect bad graphic drivers
[10:52] <silverarrow> which luckily is manageable these days
[11:30] <laite> Hi, where I could find up-to-date info about removing Nvidia binary driver and installing nouveau instead
[13:14] <holstein> laite: just dont install the nvidia one, and it wont be there
[13:15] <holstein> laite: its also easy, assuming you have a custom xorg.conf generated by installing the nvidia proprietary driver, to go in the config file and change the specified driver to whatever.. nv, vesa..
[17:38] <balsaq> #freenode
[17:45] <leszek> hi
[18:01]  * djazz just switched to Lubuntu! yay
[18:12] <djazz> where can i see the lubuntu release schedule? or is there one?
[18:12] <djazz> for 12.10
[18:14] <djazz> ah http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/
[18:14] <djazz> well, some isos
[20:27] <wtommy55> I'm having trouble booting my Lubuntu installation. After I chose which OS to use the screen goes black and no loading screen appears.
[20:47] <silverarrow> you are dual booting?
[20:48] <wtommy55> yea
[20:48] <wtommy55> Windows 7, Lubuntu, Ubuntu
[21:23] <taoseeker> how much HD space do you need to keep free?
[21:38] <wxl> taoseeker: i think you can get by with 8gb for an install. if you mean how much you NEED after, technically none. but swap's really useful. this is why the installer usually takes care of allocating some of the hd for swap to begin.
[21:42] <taoseeker> thanks
[21:42] <taoseeker> lately have have let lubuntu take over the whole hd
[21:42] <taoseeker> the hd is only 60 gb
[21:43] <wxl> well i have too but that's not lubuntu's fault
[21:43] <taoseeker> and I don`t store much there, except a few written documents
[21:43] <wxl> more has to do with my addition to free music and software
[21:43] <wxl> but lubuntu shouldn't take up much even with a bunch of software installed
[21:43] <holstein> text docs are small... 60gb is actually quite a bit of space for a standard destop
[21:43] <wxl> 50gb of applications? extremely unlikely
[21:44] <taoseeker> my hp hs 320 gb
[21:44] <taoseeker> I should partition it
[21:44] <wxl> you should try xdiskusage
[21:45] <taoseeker> oh, it is 500
[21:50] <wxl> my biggest directories are music, trash and chromium caches :/
[21:51] <wxl> that's all in home
[21:52] <wxl> even still i'm only using 8gb and the largest non-home directory is usr at 2.5gb
[21:56] <taoseeker> lol
[21:57] <taoseeker> typical with trash
[21:57] <taoseeker> we need to empty it
[21:57] <taoseeker> I should toss out two computers really
[21:57] <wxl> send  ''em to me
[21:57] <taoseeker> not just hd trash
[21:57] <taoseeker> do you need more than two?
[21:58] <wxl> for testing sure
[21:58] <taoseeker> you are right, it is handy


 btw, do our channel here connected to matrix?
[04:18] <arraybolt3[m]> @myfenris: Yep.
[04:19] <arraybolt3[m]> (Wrote that from a Matrix client.)
[04:19] <arraybolt3> And here's me on IRC.
[04:19] <arraybolt3> (So anyone on any chat can see anyone else on any other chat.)
[06:11] <KhairulAizatKama> ello
[06:11] <arraybolt3[m]> Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman: 👋
 okie .. thats me on matrix
[06:11] <arraybolt3> @myfenris: Nice, can confirm it's working!
[06:12] <arraybolt3> (I can see it both on Matrix and on IRC.)
 already shutdown my quassel server .. hence not connecting via irc
[08:36] <RikMills> mparillo: kinetic daily ISO seems to be back
[10:45] <mparillo> Thank you. And Plasma 5.25.5 for KK sounds like good news. I have a bug so subtle, I did not realize it was https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457965 Basically if you git clone a KDE application from your $HOME (whether you make it yourself or just use it for local searching) you lose the icon in kickoff.
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all


[00:51] <seidos> so i was wandering around haight-ashbury two days ago.  there was one section, a sliver of golden gate park, right by the mc donald's that was..."interesting"
[00:51] <seidos> i should read up on the history...sounds like an attempt at community that failed.
[04:12] <nUboon2Age> okay i've picked a place for The Ubuntu Hour: Palo Alto: Antonio’s Nut House 321 California Ave , http://www.antoniosnuthouse.com/
[04:14] <akk> Geez, do site developers never learn about <noscript> tags any more?
[04:16] <nUboon2Age> its not gorgeous, but its got LOTS of character (and Beer, burgers, pool, tea and coffee avail next door at Starbucks).  akk, aaditya, crashsystems, crashsystems1, jledbetter, jtatum, kdub_, mcgrof, pleia2, Yasumoto.
[04:16] <nUboon2Age> i think i'll do it at 6-7pm.
[04:17] <nUboon2Age> if that will work for other people
[04:18] <pleia2> I can't get down there that early, but have fun :)
[04:18] <nUboon2Age> well i could make it 7-8 then pleia2
[04:19] <pleia2> see what other people say, I suspect some people will be coming from work around there and earlier will work *shrug*
[04:19] <nUboon2Age> pleia2: well don't forget jledbetter will be there and i'm sure she'd love to meet you.
[04:19] <pleia2> when?
[04:19] <nUboon2Age> pleia2: come again please
[04:20] <nUboon2Age> pleia2: jledbetter will be visiting from Virgina
[04:20] <pleia2> when are you planning to have this ubuntu hour?
[04:20] <nUboon2Age> oh, yeah i forgot to say the day. doh!
[04:21] <nUboon2Age> Thur Dec. 30th, 7-8
[04:21] <pleia2> ah ok
[04:22] <pleia2> hmm, no boyfriend at work that day so I can probably take the car
[04:24] <nUboon2Age> there was a photo of Mark Zuckerburg at Antonio's Nut House in Time magazine last week.
[04:24] <nUboon2Age> apparently the Facebook crowd hangs out there
[04:25] <akk> Saw a great post about Zuckerburg (sort of) on Twitter RT'ed by Cat Allman: "Being named Coolest Person of the Year by Time is basically equivalent to being called Astrophysicist of the Year by Cat Fancy Mag"
[04:28] <nUboon2Age> oops, i mispelled his name.  i guess its Zuckerberg.  and the article about him being Time mag's Man of the Year has a photo of him in Antonio's Nut House.
[04:29] <nUboon2Age> i enjoyed the movie "Social Network" about the origins of Facebook.
[04:54] <seidos> nUboon2Age, a lot of people liked the movie, i think i know enough about facebook's history though without seeing it.  i laughed at this article from the onion on zuckerberg today:  http://www.theonion.com/articles/mark-zuckerberg-gotta-hand-it-to-the-little-fucker,18633/  it was just so...i dunno, unapologetic.
[04:54] <seidos> anyway,  night all
[14:44] <jledbetter> Wow. That place really does have character.
[17:22] <seidos> yeah, if the irc channel is any indication, i don't think noisebridge is for me
[17:26] <akk> What's the irc channel like?
[17:32] <pleia2> seidos: it's not, I like noisebridge but their channel is awful :(
[17:32] <pleia2> akk: very immature, frequently offensive
[17:32]  * pleia2 stopped joining
[17:32] <seidos> i guess a visit is in order then.  perhaps in january
[17:33] <pleia2> seidos: you should come out on a wednesday night some time, that's linux night so you can be greeted by some familiar faces :)
[17:33] <seidos> i'm going to be in the union square area today, but i don't know the city well enough to navigate to mission from there
[17:34] <seidos> oh, okay, cool pleia2.  hopefully i remember that.
[17:34] <pleia2> from there you walk down powell toward market and take BART to 16th and mission
[17:34] <seidos> i also want to start going to the zen center in the city.
[17:34] <seidos> i am walking pleia2.
[17:35] <pleia2> ah
[17:36] <seidos> and i could look it up on google maps, but then i'd have to remember the directions ^_^.  i am taking my sweet time, i am in no rush.
[17:37] <pleia2> mission is just one street past market
[17:37] <pleia2> powell > cross market and take 5th street down to mission
[17:37] <pleia2> that'll put you at 5th and mission, noisebridge is 17th and mission
[17:45] <sn9> at least the channel is still better than the mailing lists
[17:45] <seidos> oh, your good intentions reminds me of something.
[17:45] <seidos> how's everybody doing?
[17:46] <seidos> mailing lists worse than the channel?  that's a bummer.
[17:46] <pleia2> it's sunny out today, how lovely :)
[17:47] <pleia2> their mailing list is at least sometimes informative (I just skip the bickering threads, as usual)
[17:47] <pleia2> and the announce list is good
[17:47] <sn9> skipping the bickering is possible?
[17:47] <pleia2> I find the channel completely useless
[17:47] <seidos> someone was working on some regexp yesterday in the channel
[17:47] <pleia2> sn9: yes, there are several lists I have to do it on ;)
[17:47] <seidos> i thought that was kind of interesting
[17:47] <seidos> couldn't solve the problem though
[17:48] <pleia2> when I first moved here they only had one op in the channel who would randomly op people, who would also randomly op people, and then kick people for the lulz
[17:49] <seidos> i don't know, it's just that "shock jock"/"trollish" vibe...i just don't find it amusing, even though i think that's what they're going for.
[17:49] <pleia2> yeah, same
[17:49] <seidos> maybe i'm out of touch now that i'm older
[17:49] <pleia2> my initial reaction was "I am not cool enough for noisebridge"
[17:50] <sn9> sounds like a bot
[17:50] <pleia2> (I still sorta feel that way to some extent, but it helps to know people there)
[17:51] <seidos> hmmm, i think my initial reaction was "i should probably shut my mouth and not say anything in this channel", but then i had to go and ruin it and type something
[17:51] <seidos> ^_^
[17:51] <pleia2> oh I don't talk for weeks upon initial join of a channel
[17:51] <pleia2> :)
[17:52] <seidos> that's a wise policy.  check the logs later?  not a bad idea.
[17:52] <sn9> for #ubuntu?
[17:52] <pleia2> I usually like getting a feel for a place before jumping in
[17:53] <seidos> gah, #ubuntu, that's probably a good idea.  though i'm not sure how useful i will be to end users.  i'm still running karmic.
[17:53] <seidos> sometimes speaking is a great way to get a feel for the place.
[17:53] <pleia2> sn9: #ubuntu is a support channel, not really the same as a team or social channel like here or #noisebridge
[17:54] <pleia2> seidos: I'm shy :) speaking is *never* a great way for me to do anything!
[17:54] <sn9> i find it to be an absolutely superb way for me to make an ass of myself
[17:54] <pleia2> lol
[17:55] <seidos> pleia2, i am dr. jekyll and mr. hyde.  it all depends on how smoothly i want societal affair to go.
[17:56] <pleia2> I only break out of wallflower when I have a purpose (like helping run an event, or booth, or am doing a talk) and even then it's very difficult and draining
[17:56] <seidos> ah, if that were true, then i'd probably never say anything, which is quite challenging.
[17:57] <seidos> i have this silly notion quite often that i actually possess valuable information in my cerebral cortex that should be transmitted.
[17:57] <pleia2> yeah, that's how I used to be, then I learned that I could help with stuff and that it helped overcome the shyness, was hoping that getting more involved would fix my shyness all around
[17:58] <akk> "Someone is wrong on the internet!"
[17:58] <seidos> how did you learn you could "help with stuff" pleia2?
[17:59] <seidos> i have no delusions that anything i do can really be construed as "helping".  self-improvement, maybe.  but helping?  ehhhh
[17:59] <pleia2> seidos: started with work, I realized I wasn't shy at work
[17:59] <pleia2> the lug in philly was always asking people to help out, so I pitched in there
[17:59] <pleia2> eventually became the coordinator for the whole thing
[18:00] <seidos> pleia2, ah, i see.  we're talking about shyness and i'm talking about practical tasks ^_^.  you don't seem shy to me.  you just seem...normal.
[18:00] <seidos> perhaps your shyness is more a feeling more than a character trait.
[18:00] <pleia2> I think every time we've met I've been playing organizational person
[18:01] <pleia2> if we met at a party... we probably wouldn't have met, I'd be hiding :)
[18:01] <seidos> i used to be *very* shy.  but school, work, karaoke, dancing, bars, clubs put a stop to that.
[18:02] <seidos> well, if we met at a party, we probably wouldn't have met because i tend to just watch people at parties these days.
[18:02] <seidos> er, went to a party, not met at a party.
[18:02] <seidos> sorry, my mind is on making the meal.  i should get on that.
[18:03] <pleia2> hehe
[18:03] <pleia2> enjoy
[18:16] <seidos> actually, i think i should probably be more shy, or at least reserved.  observe and learn, that kind of thing.  i kind of went from extremely shy, to extremely vocal, bordering on obnoxious.  it's difficult to find the right balance.


[01:12] <lifeless> lamont: define well
[01:12] <lifeless> lamont: I've done some usb serial stuff
[01:13] <lamont> I have a driver for some crap 3rd party hardware.  when I hook it up, it says: No more free serial devices
[01:13] <lamont> driver was for 2.6.11, running 2.6.17, and yes, I had to hit it with a couple rocks to get it to compile
[01:15] <lifeless> hmm
[01:16] <lifeless> memory creaking
[01:26] <lifeless> so, thats trying find a serial dev id for the device
[01:27] <lifeless> but I can't remember why I last saw it, or what the right approach to fix it is. I would look at the changelog for usbserial.c from .11 to .17 though
[01:27] <lifeless> bet you theres a new api you need to call to allocate
[01:34] <lamont> yeah - something to do in a while.
[04:48] <pwnguin> is there a newer kernel than whats currently in the repos available for testing?
[04:48] <pwnguin> launchpad says the toshiba acpi problem is fixed but the update to the kernel i grabbed today disagrees
[05:46] <BenC> 3.4 is probably the latest to grab, but 4.5 is making it's way through the buildd's and archive process
[07:08] <fabbione> BenC: still around?
[02:17] <BenC> fabbione: Around now
[02:17] <fabbione> hey BenC
[02:17] <fabbione> BenC: we will be roomie in Osloland
[02:18] <fabbione> i saw the flights.. you will land 30 minutes before me and we will leave almost together
[02:18] <fabbione> if you feel like waiting for me at the a/p we can go together from/to hotel
[02:18] <BenC> cool
[02:19] <BenC> fabbione: Definitely, I'll wait by British Air baggage exit (smoking outside)
[02:19] <fabbione> BenC: ok i think the exit is one
[02:19] <fabbione> Oslo is a small airport
[02:20] <Mithrandir> there's just one exit, yeah.
[02:20] <BenC> ok, makes it easy then :)
[02:22] <fabbione> yeah
[02:40] <Mithrandir> BenC: hmm, previous -lowlatency kernel went to main, should the new one go to main too or is it still universe?
[02:40] <BenC> universe
[02:41] <Mithrandir> ok; that's the only exception, right?
[02:41] <BenC> right
[02:41] <Mithrandir> coolie, I'll process it now, then
[02:41] <BenC> thanks
[03:30] <Keybuk> BenC: are there any ALSA driver updates for snd-hda-intel available?
[03:31] <BenC> Not that I'm aware of
[03:32] <Keybuk> my microphone port doesn't work :-/
[03:33] <BenC> is that a regression?
[03:34] <Keybuk> only just bought this one :p
[03:34] <Keybuk> it's a regression in that the mic jack of my old laptop works <g>
[03:34] <Keybuk> does that count/
[03:34] <BenC> lol
[03:39] <Keybuk> interwobble says that it's something to do with the driver not handling the jack sense correctly, and that it needs to decide whether the input is mic or line
[03:39] <Keybuk> allegedly the development driver fixes it, but I haven't tested that yet
[03:40] <kylem> which hda chipset is it?
[03:42] <Keybuk> 82801G (ICH7 Family)
[03:42] <Keybuk> 8086:27d8
[05:40] <zul> maybe
[07:58] <Keybuk> BenC: I'm going to mull whether bind should call ->match() while I'm shopping
[07:58] <Keybuk> there's a certain elegance to being able to drop the driver/device tables as an important piece of the puzzle
[07:59] <Keybuk> and it'd let us easily ship updated tables for new ids
[07:59] <Keybuk> (without relying on the subsystem having new_id)
[07:59] <Keybuk> otoh, it's prone to letting people crash their system
[08:00] <BenC> Maybe a "force:" prefix to the bind data could signify "do what I say, damnit"
[08:00] <Keybuk> yeah
[08:00] <BenC> That way we could make it an expert option in the UI
[08:02] <Keybuk> and udev could always use it?
[08:02] <Keybuk> force: is probably easier to implement than a force_bind attr
[08:02] <BenC> well udev would be handling the rules that the UI creates
[08:03] <BenC> so maybe not always
[08:03] <Keybuk> true