[08:18] <voicu> pointwood: in control center at section regional & accessability -> language there is an 'add language' button. that's where i should find the RO pack, right?
[08:18] <Armagguedes> how can i configure them
[08:19] <Armagguedes> and use the synaptic touchpad
[08:19] <pointwood> voicu: I would have thought you should add them through adept
[08:20] <voicu> pointwood: is there some config file to add an entry for the language-pack?
[08:20] <pointwood> no idea :(
[08:21] <pointwood> I'm not english myself, but I always use english...
[08:21] <voicu> i tried to find one in /etc or /home/.kde but i don't actually know what i'm looking for :P
[08:21] <voicu> i like using english too but i was curios to see the translation
[08:23] <pointwood> hehe
[08:31] <vvizard> I'm having some problems. Just installed Kubuntu. kdesu didn't work "SU  returned with an error." So in  some forum, I saw someone suggesting to disable the root account with "sudo passwd -l root". So I tried. Well, the error haven't dissapeared, and now my root-account is lost to. Could anybody help out with this?
[08:31] <jpatrick> vvizard: use sudo
[08:32] <vvizard> Use sudo how? Got any FAQ that address this issue, or a forum-post describing a remedy for the problem?
[08:33] <jpatrick> vvizard: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/RootSudo
[08:33] <vvizard> Thanks, I'll check it out
[08:35] <vvizard> When I try "sudo passwd root", the command just returns. Same goes for all the sudo commands I try. It just dumps me right back to the shell, without any explanation
[08:36] <DHGE> freeNX client - deb-source anyone?
[08:36] <hyperactivecrond> wow dell is retarded... i'm installing winxp with my dell-reinstallation disc under qemu and apparently my disc isn't bioslocked
[08:37] <hyperactivecrond> sorry for the off-topic guys
[08:38] <hyperactivecrond> legality: questionable...
[08:39] <hyperactivecrond> either that or qemu looks @ the host pc's bios
[08:43] <Armagguedes> whts the difference between X and X.org
[08:44] <jpatrick> Armagguedes: they're the same
[08:46] <sharket> hello
[08:53] <_nesta> hello
[08:53] <_nesta> my 'most used applications' seperator on the kicker is not there , how can i restore it ??
[08:54] <hussam> why is lvm10 in universe? Is it not a necessary package?
[08:54] <hussam> or do I just need lvm2?
[08:55] <jpatrick> _nesta: configure panel -> Menus
[08:56] <_nesta> great thanls
[08:56] <_nesta> k
[08:59] <lululinux> sampan: ubotu Armagguedes thx :-) Amarok & Kaffeine working now. :-)
[08:59] <lululinux> and SeaMonkey
[09:00] <sharket> does anybody use any calendar ?
[09:00] <sampan> lululinux  glad to hear you got it working! :)
[09:00] <Blissex> sharket: the sumerian started doing so several thousand years ago...
[09:01] <sharket> i mean in kde
[09:01] <sharket> for make plans
[09:01] <sharket> :P
[09:01] <sharket> :))
[09:01] <kkathman> yes
[09:01] <kkathman> in kontakt
[09:02] <sampan> plans?  we don't need no steeeeeeenking plans
[09:02] <kkathman> lol sampan :)
[09:02] <sampan> ;D
[09:02] <sharket> yes we do  sampan
[09:03] <kkathman> sharket: try kontact .. its pretty nice for a calendar
[09:03] <lululinux> what config file holds the chosen DM/Greeter?
[09:03] <kkathman> I think you can call that separately also
[09:03] <sharket> i'm going to leave from my contry so many times nexw year :S
[09:03] <sharket> thx kkathman
[09:04] <kkathman> sharket: its not kcal or kcalendar...but something like that...I dont use it often because my planning is done on my company laptop
[09:05] <sharket> ok
[09:05] <sharket> is not inside the standart installation, right ?
[09:05] <kkathman> sharket: try korganizer
[09:06] <sharket> ok
[09:06] <lululinux> will running 'sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop' switch from kdm to gdm? If so, how do I put it back?
[09:06] <jpatrick> lululinux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[09:06] <kkathman> lululinux: you can choose from your login splash
[09:07] <lululinux> Ok thx :)
[09:07] <rev> maybe someone can tell me whats missing here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6032 ?
[09:07] <kkathman> or should be able to I reckon
[09:07] <mpma> Has anyone used Gwenview to catalog images, i.e. to add them to a special list, say 'favorites' or 'to print' ?
[09:08] <mpma> I can't find that feature if it exists
[09:08] <sharket> Kontact got all :))
[09:09] <kujeger> say, how do I force konqueror to always use a view moe (i.e. tree view) whenever I open anything?
[09:09] <kujeger> mode*
[09:10] <sampan> kujeger  get it viewing how you like it, and then save the profile
[09:10] <sampan> settings --> save view profile <foo.bar>
[09:10] <mpma> Anyone happily using Gwenview with Plugin fuctionality on Kubuntu?
[09:11] <kujeger> oh, thanks. Can't believe I missed that.
[09:11] <sharket> does anybody use the spamassasin ?
[09:12] <sampan> kujeger  np  :)
[09:12] <nalioth> kujeger: make konqueror look the way you want, and then go to Settings > Save View Profile
[09:13] <kujeger> yes, it worked nicely.
[09:13] <kujeger> Can't seem to get it to remember window position though - only size.
[09:15] <sampan> my only gripe with the profiles is that i couldn't seem to delete some of the ones that were there originally -- maybe i just missed it, but i could not get it to delete the prefigured profiles
[09:16] <sampan> i only need fm and web -- and having 4 other (to me useless) profiles is just silly
[09:17] <sampan> there's a "delete profile" button in the save view profile dialogue box, but it doesn't work
[09:45] <snake> Hello!
[09:46] <Snake__> Hey guys, how would set default programs?
[09:48] <_matt> Can someone tell me if its possible to get root access while using Konqueror so I can change folder permissions with out using console?
[09:48] <Snake__> Right click, actions, edit as root
[09:48] <Snake__> _matt:
[09:48] <jjesse> best wiki page to go about automounting windows (ntfs) partitions on ubuntu
[09:48] <_matt> I dont see the option
[09:49] <jjesse> !ntfs
[09:49] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:49] <Snake__> _matt: what kind of file?
[09:49] <jjesse> hmmm that's a messy wiki page
[09:49] <_matt> I want to change my .wine folder so i can edit inside of it
[09:49] <sampan> snake__  one way is: konq --> settings --> configure konq --> file associations ... locate the file type you want to change default app for and change it to that app
[09:49] <Snake__> sampan: that will do, thanks man
[09:49] <sampan> sure
[09:50] <_matt> wineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/matt/.wine/system.reg : Permission denied
[09:50] <_matt> I need to change it so I have permissions in the folder
[09:50] <Snake__> You should be able to right click the file (In the explorer view) and select edit as root..
[09:51] <Snake__> Odd...
[09:51] <_matt> hmm I dont see the option
[09:51] <_matt> is it something that needs to be added in with the settings?
[09:51] <Snake__> it wasn't for me
[09:52] <Snake__> hold on a sec
[09:52] <_matt> As far as I know I have  root access
[09:52] <sampan> _matt  it's under "actions"
[09:52] <_matt> looked there too
[09:52] <_matt> didnt see it
[09:52] <Snake__> Thats what I told him sampan
[09:52] <sampan> right-click --> actions --> edit as root ...
[09:52] <sampan> hrmmmm ... there for me
[09:52] <_matt> unless you open it as a terminal
[09:53] <Snake__> _matt: I could tell you how to change permissions, but thats not a good practice with system files
[09:53] <sampan> _matt  you probably opened konq in web profile
[09:53] <sampan> it's not there when i use that profile either -- open konq in file management profile instead
[09:53] <_matt> I wouldnt know the difference
[09:53] <_matt> it just says /home/matt
[09:54] <_matt> that goes for any of my regular folders too though
[09:55] <_matt> theres no edit as root
[09:55] <ninnghizidha> anyone knows, why kopete cant send special characters to gaim?
[09:55] <sampan> it's because when you start konq it's not in file management profile ... you can start konq in fm mode at CLI: konqueror --profile filemanagement
[09:56] <sampan> or you can add the konq profiles buttong to your taskbar/startmenu ... or add a kmenu item for fm mode (same command in the menu command: konqueror --profile filemanagement)
[09:56] <sampan> buttong=button
[09:58] <Snake__> Wtf why is it still opening with konq...
[09:58] <Snake__> POS
[09:59] <sampan> i like konq as a browser but still too many formatting errors -- even the kde.org help pages are messed up at the bottom (overlapping lines)
[10:00] <lululinux> that's because mice make most web pages, and can read that mousetype that overlaps when you zoom or use minimum font size
[10:00] <lululinux> :)
[10:00] <sampan> lol
[10:01] <lululinux> real men would use Texas size type so everyone could read it without zoom
[10:05] <Blissex> sampan: there are no such things as formatting errors in HTML...
[10:14] <sampan> blissex well i'm not all that technical, but i don't know what else to call it when text that displays in nice neatly spaced lines in firefox is "formatted" into messy, unreadable overlapping lines in konq
[10:15] <sampan> doesn't happen all that often, but often enough that i use firefox as my default webbrowser
[10:15] <Blissex> sampan: thats bad HTML most likely. Lots of it around....
[10:15] <sampan> perhaps, odd that i run into it even on kde's own webpages though
[10:15] <Blissex> sampan: anyhow I use almost only Konqueror now, and with a custom stylesheet that simplifies things, so perhaps that's what helps.
[10:18] <arabek> evening
[10:18] <arabek> first try at the newest kubuntu dvd
[10:18] <arabek> :)
[10:23] <sampan> blissex, cool ... don't get me wrong though: i think konq is -great-.  being able to rip cds within my file-manager while surfing the web on a separate tab, and previewing a pdf file in another tab -- that's just a stupendous piece of work.  but i do wish it displayed webpages (or the poorly written ones) more competantly
[10:24] <sampan> s/competantly/competently
[10:25] <arabek> sampan, tried the 3.5 konqueror?
[10:26] <sampan> arabek no, i haven't upgraded to 3.5 yet -- i kinda avoid the "constant upgrade" disease ;)
[10:27] <_nesta> anyone know a link that contains all of the user manuals for the different apps that come installed on kubuntu ??
[10:27] <arabek> sampan, konqueror is at last usable in this version. while beeing on the latest -rc1 with gen2 i finally dropped firefox
[10:28] <Blissex> _nesta: '/usr/share/doc' usually :-)
[10:28] <hugelmopf> _nesta: in the k-menu there is a help section, where you can find many handbooks of KDE's programs
[10:28] <_nesta> just that?
[10:28] <_nesta> in terminal ?
[10:28] <_nesta> or knoqueror?
[10:28] <_nesta> thanks hugel
[10:28] <jpatrick> _nesta: khelpcenter
[10:30] <sampan> arabek  nice!  :)
[10:30] <_nesta> ok
[10:31] <_nesta> i have a problem with my screen if i put it on higher resolution 1024 i cant see the kicker icon on the bottom left
[10:31] <_nesta> so i have to use 800
[10:31] <_nesta> is there a way to fix this
[10:34] <gole> odd one here... found one mp3 that plays choppy, but the rest play fine...
[10:34] <gole> and the mp3 plays fine over samba on a windows box
[10:35] <gole> so i'm stuck scratching my head, since i know the file is fine... just something with the playback in linux
[10:38] <Blissex> gole: it is not a file related thing usually, unless it is a particularly challenging rate.
[10:39] <Blissex> gole: look at http://tinyurl.com/bp7ch   and the quality section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2
[10:41] <gole> ok looking thanks
[10:46] <_nesta> anyone know how i can into network configuration settings on kde
[10:47] <gwynm> Hey guys. I've got a laptop here with no CD drive, but I have ethernet and a 512mb bootable USB drive. Is it possible to do a kubuntu install?
[10:49] <gole> _nesta, Kmenu > system settings > network settings
[10:56] <manolista> are xorg 7.0 packages avaiable for ubuntu?
[10:57] <crimsun_> in Dapper, yes.
[10:57] <crimsun_> they won't be for Warty, Hoary, or Breezy.
[10:58] <osh_> This http://rafb.net/paste/results/DMW67l94.html doesn't extract the file that I expect it to. It does extract the first files, the one in a subdir, but not the regular files. Any ideas?
[11:02] <osh_> Also, is it a known fact that you cant copy things from emacs to any other app?
[11:02] <_nesta> i have a problem with my screen if i put it on higher resolution 1024 i cant see the kicker icon on the bottom left
[11:02] <_nesta> is there a way to fix this???
[11:03] <osh_> _nesta: does the screen scroll down if you put the mousepointer at the bottom of it?
[11:03] <fyzix> Hi :-) Anybody know how to change the basic character set that kubuntu uses?
[11:03] <osh_> _nesta: try ctrl +
[11:05] <_nesta> no it doesnt scroll over
[11:05] <sharket> i don't know what synaptic is
[11:05] <_nesta> i cant access the kicker when its like this
[11:05] <sharket> and don't know where find it
[11:05] <_nesta> ctrl + didnt do anything
[11:06] <osh_> _nesta: not even if you do it several times?
[11:06] <_nesta> nope
[11:06] <_nesta> nothing :(
[11:06] <sampan> sharket  synaptic is ubuntu's GUI package manager.  if you installed kubuntu, you don't have it installed.  look for Adept instead
[11:06] <Riddell> fyzix: dpkg-reconfigure locale
[11:06] <sharket> ah good
[11:07] <sampan> or rather, if you installed just kubuntu (if you installed ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop, then you have both synaptic and adept)
[11:07] <sharket> yes i used adept
[11:07] <sharket> but i have one problem
[11:07] <sharket> Miscellaneous - Graphical (restricted) > nvidia-glx
[11:07] <sharket> Miscellaneous - Graphical (restricted) > nvidia-settings
[11:07] <sharket> i can't find these ones
[11:07] <sampan> just one?  i have many -- most are not related to computers though ;/
[11:08] <sharket> only nvidia-kernel-common - NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[11:08] <osh_> _nesta: Then you would probably go into xorg.conf but I don't really know enough about it to help you with it. Experiment a bit with it. ;-)
[11:08] <fyzix> riddel it returns: Package `locale' is not installed and no info is available.
[11:08] <sampan> sharket have you enabled the repositories?
[11:08] <_nesta> osh:also there is black border on the right...its like everything is dragged to the left off the screen..including irc and webpages, until i rezise them..but i cant get the kicker anyway
[11:08] <sharket> which ones ?
[11:09] <fyzix> riddell it returns: Package `locale' is not installed and no info is available.
[11:09] <fyzix> riddell apt-get install localeconf?
[11:09] <osh_> _nesta: it's not your screen that needs to be adjusted?
[11:10] <sharket> sampan: which repositories ?
[11:10] <Riddell> fyzix: locales
[11:10] <sampan> sharket  not sure exactly which repo the nvidia packages are in.  but in Adept, go to the top: Adept --> Manage Repositories... there, enable the lines with universe and multiverse i think
[11:10] <sharket> ah have enabled
[11:10] <sharket> those ones
[11:10] <sharket> all :)
[11:11] <sampan> sharket  hrmmmmm ... searching for "nvidia" doesn't bring up the glx and settings packages?
[11:12] <_nesta> osh: thanks alot! that fixed it :p
[11:13] <sharket> xserver-xorg-driver-nv - X.Org X server -- NV driver
[11:13] <sharket> nvidia-kernel-common - NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[11:13] <sharket> these tho ones
[11:13] <sharket> maybe first ?
[11:15] <sampan> sharket  nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings are in the restricted sections -- you have those enabled?  i see them in adept just fine :/
[11:16] <sharket> let me see
[11:16] <sampan> did you update your repo list?  (sudo apt-get update)
[11:17] <sampan> sharket  you can see that they're in the repos: http://packages.ubuntu.com/  then type in "nvidia" in the search bar ... a bunch of packages, including nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings
[11:21] <fyzix> riddell thanks
[11:25] <ndazza> Hi! Does anyone know if there's a way to rate-limit apt-get? I'm trying to minimise my bandwidth usage
[11:25] <hume> hi...i got a problem with a  brand new installation of kubuntu - in kmail i get every second row of mails colored dark blue - and i cant get rid of it, even though changing themes
[11:26] <hume> anyone know how to get back to a readable list of mails in kmal? must be some theme-thing.....
[11:26] <kkathman> hume: cant say that I've ever seen that
[11:26] <kkathman> lemme check
[11:27] <hume> i tried some themes, among them the blue-and-yellow....and this pattern sticks....
[11:27] <fyzix> hume I've tried it before. It probably marked them not new, but not read
[11:27] <kkathman> hume every other line on mine is very light blue, but not dark
[11:28] <fyzix> hume just select them all and mark as read
[11:28] <ndazza> hume: have you tried configuring kmail and setting custom colours?
[11:28] <kkathman> hume: try Configure Kmail - Appearance - Colors
[11:28] <hume> yes, it is this "every second row", not the "new mails" function...but instead of light light blue it is dark blue...
[11:28] <kkathman> change the alternate color (2nd one down)
[11:29] <hume> you think it is kmail specific, not kde theme?
[11:29] <kkathman> alternative background color
[11:29] <kkathman> yes
[11:29] <sharket> sampan: , http://pastebin.com/475770
[11:29] <sharket> i think everything is enabled...
[11:29] <kkathman> hume: just try what I said and see if that helps
[11:29] <hume> ok....yes, that changes it
[11:30] <hume> now it looks much better
[11:30] <kkathman> excellent
[11:30] <sampan> sharket and you've updated the package lists after enabling?
[11:30] <hume> so I should stick with this, personalised settings of colors?
[11:31] <kkathman> hume: you can save those, yes, or change them up as you'd like
[11:31] <sampan> if so, then i'm at a loss, because the repos (apt-cache, adept, synaptic, and the web package list at http://packages.ubuntu.com all say nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings are there)
[11:31] <hume> i also got rather heavy window borders, dark blue.....
[11:31] <sharket> yes
[11:31] <hume> they are set to Plasik now, small, but do not look either plastik or smalll.....
[11:31] <sharket> apt-get update
[11:32] <sharket> then ?
[11:32] <sharket> where is the matter
[11:32] <sharket> those are my repositories
[11:32] <hume> same thing with alternate rows are in kcontrol.....
[11:32] <hume> now.....i found it...:)
[11:33] <hume> solved...thanks......color scheme in kcontrol...:)
[11:33] <sampan> sharket  i don't know where the problem is.  apt-cache search, adept, synaptic, aptitude, and the web package list all show them for me -- so if you have the repos enabled and have updated, they should be there for you too
[11:35] <sharket> yes
[11:35] <sharket> adept use apt right ?
[11:35] <sharket> i readed that...
[11:35] <sampan> yes, adept is just a GUI front-end for apt
[11:35] <sharket> well, i don't really need it
[11:35] <sharket> i like shell
[11:37] <os2mac> having a problem after doing dapper updates yesterday....
[11:38] <os2mac> I cannot do get updates again....
[11:38] <os2mac> it errors with s segserv error with adept and with errors on apt-get update
[11:40] <kkathman> os2mac: do you possibly have it open elsewhere or have an apt-get still active?
[11:40] <kkathman> check ksysguard just in case (or ps aux at konsole)
[11:41] <sharket> godammit
[11:42] <os2mac> No I just booted it up.
[11:44] <os2mac> it is not running.
[11:44] <os2mac> that I can see.
[11:44] <kkathman> sharket: please refrain from that language
[11:45] <kkathman> os2mac: so you tried to do another adept-update and it gives you the segfault?
[11:45] <kkathman> segserv ohh hmm
[11:45] <sharket> sorry
[11:45] <sharket> :S
[11:45] <kkathman> you didnt inadvertantly change the repos back did you?
[11:47] <Kaiser_Sleeps> hi kkathman
[11:47] <os2mac> no I ran updates yesterday and it faulted .... I shutdown and rebooted and attempted again to do apt-get install... it passed that time.but now when I run apt-get update or adept updater I get a segserv error
[11:47] <kkathman> Kaiser_Sleeps: talkin in yer sleep again I see :)
[11:47] <Kaiser_Sleeps> it's a tough life :)
[11:48] <kkathman> I dont see that SEGSERV error very much in here
[11:48] <os2mac> kkathman: sources.list is set to dapper....
[11:48] <kkathman> I think the best person to help you might be Hobbsee when she comes in..since she's worked with Dapper alot
[11:49] <os2mac> any idea when she is due in?
[11:49] <Kaiser_Sleeps> os2mac: what errors do you get runing apt-get update?
[11:49] <kkathman> os2mac: this error usually points to an application error where the progam tries to write an address out of bounds
[11:49] <Kaiser_Sleeps> she could be any time
[11:50] <kkathman> or could be a disk fault error also..i.e. something was trying to write and only partially completed
[11:50] <steve_laptop> ok for you laptop users with wifi wlassisant for ubuntu   - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=597441#post597441
[11:51] <kkathman> shes usually in around now, unless she has to work
[11:51] <os2mac> Kaiser_sleeps I get a signal 11 sigserv fault.
[11:52] <Kaiser_Sleeps> or family commitments (a day or so before xmas)
[11:52] <Kaiser_Sleeps> oh, segfault :| are you sure the last update was successfull?
[11:52] <os2mac> it completed without errors that I saw (though I may be mistaken) how to I back off updates?
[11:52] <kkathman> Kaiser_Sleeps: no, a segserv error
[11:53] <Kaiser_Sleeps> os2mac: you don't (as a rule)
[11:53] <kkathman> Kaiser_Sleeps: no I ran updates yesterday and it faulted .... I shutdown and rebooted and attempted again to do apt-get install... it passed that time.but now when I run apt-get update or adept updater I get a segserv error
[11:53] <Kaiser_Sleeps> os2mac: can you install apt- again? `sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/apt*`
[11:53] <kkathman> that was what he said earlier
[11:53] <kkathman> I suspect he's got a bad update
[11:53] <os2mac> lemme try
[11:54] <Kaiser_Sleeps> hm. thanks kkathman.
[11:54] <kkathman> thanks for helping Kaiser_Sleeps :)
[11:54] <Lacerta> I want sound. What do i have to type?
[11:54] <kkathman> Lacerta: uhmm sound with what?
[11:54] <Lacerta> any sound
[11:55] <kkathman> sound should be enabled
[11:55] <Kaiser_Sleeps> kkathman: np. not a hard thing to do :)
[11:55] <kkathman> Lacerta: on a dvd or cd, thats a different story
[11:55] <Lacerta> i haven't heard anything from linux so far
[11:55] <kkathman> Lacerta: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:55] <os2mac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/475822
[11:55] <Lacerta> kkathman:  kubuntu
[11:56] <sampan> The Silence of the Linux
[11:56] <kkathman> Lacerta: K-menu, System Settings - Sound and Multimedia - enable the sound system
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: did you do `apt*` or just `apt`?
[11:56] <Lacerta> kkathman: it's enabled
[11:56] <kkathman> Lacerta: ok thats good
[11:57] <os2mac> just apt... running it again
[11:57] <kkathman> Lacerta: good place to start at least
[11:57] <Lacerta> unable to connect to sound server
[11:57] <crimsun_> Lacerta: cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:57] <xianze> hi im looking for someone who can translate some chinese words for me and maybe tell me where to find mor information about the figures. =) //sorry to be annoying in this kubuntu channel o_O
[11:57] <os2mac> ok appears to completed successfully... do you want to see the output?
[11:57] <kkathman> thanx crimsun...I need to go Christmas shopping now..bbl
[11:57] <sampan> later kkathman
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: yes thanks. but try apt-get update again
[11:58] <sampan> xianze, got a url to look at?
[11:58] <os2mac> ok Lemme do the output first
[11:58] <xianze> sampan: yes, www.welan.se/Kina/
[11:59] <os2mac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/475824
[11:59] <xianze> P1010003.JPG is in nice quality and maybe can be read i think ;)
[12:00] <sampan> xianze  i get a 404 there ... www.welan.se opens, but no characters that i can see
[12:00] <xianze> http://www.welan.se/Kina/
[12:01] <os2mac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/475828
[12:01] <xianze> hmm weird, it works fine for me, hmm
[12:01] <os2mac> output of apt-get update
[12:01] <xianze> its pictures
[12:01] <Lacerta> crimsun_:  what's with the file?
[12:01] <crimsun_> Lacerta: you're supposed to tell me what the command returns.
[12:02] <Lacerta> crimsun_: my both cards
[12:02] <Lacerta> 0 [AudioPCI       ] : ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
[12:02] <Lacerta>                      Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xd400, irq 18
[12:02] <Lacerta> 1 [V8235          ] : VIA8233 - VIA 8235
[12:02] <Lacerta>                      VIA 8235 with AD1980 at 0xe000, irq 22
[12:02] <crimsun_> Lacerta: so which one do you want to use by default?
[12:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: ok. so about half the errors are because you have your cdrom enabled in apt, but it's not in the drive, the other half are becaus the us mirror has gone awol again by the look of it
[12:02] <Lacerta> crimsun_: V8235 i think


[22:23] <kyrofa> valorie, when you mentioned dropping a mail to the PNW list, were you referring to this one? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-pnw
[22:24] <valorie> yup
[22:24] <valorie> that pre-existed the state teams that the LoCo council insisted up
[22:24] <valorie> upon
[22:24] <valorie> which sort of ended enthusiasm here at least, unfortunately
[22:25] <valorie> at least they didn't kill the list though
[22:25] <valorie> I always mail at least wa and pnw if not Oregon and Idaho as well
[22:25] <valorie> depending on the occasion or issue
[22:26] <kyrofa> Good deal
[22:27] <kyrofa> valorie, that exact issue is of interest to the CC. Stay tuned
[22:27] <valorie> nice
[22:27] <valorie> I think the horse has long ago left the barn
[22:28] <valorie> on the other hand there was quite a bit of interest at the SeaGL conf
[22:28] <valorie> it's too bad I didn't have cards printed or something
[22:28] <valorie> but it surprised me
[22:29] <kyrofa> Yeah things seem to be reinvigorating, I hope the trend continues
[22:31] <kyrofa> I like the idea of essentially having a larger loco, but even the WA loco is spread out enough that events are typically super far from me
[22:32] <kyrofa> Otherwise I could be bringing swag
[22:36] <valorie> that was the point of pnw -- get a critical mass
[22:36] <valorie> and often people from Vancouver WA for instance would rather go to Portland
[22:36] <valorie> Boise <> Spokane
[22:36] <valorie> etc.


[18:46] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: may be worth keeping an eye on: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/discover/-/merge_requests/721
[18:46] -ubottu:#ubuntustudio-devel- Merge 721 in plasma/discover "Draft: notifier: quit if notification frequency is never" [Opened]
[18:48] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Interesting.


[21:37] <GunnarHj> xnox: Subscribed you to bug 952185 after having replied to your comment, so I'm not sure that you were notified by email.
[21:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 952185 in pam (Ubuntu) "~/.pam_environment not parsed when HOME is encrypted" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/952185