[09:38] <zarlino> rickyfingers: i'm connected via ethernet to a hub
[09:38] <rickyfingers> ok, what happens when you type "route" at the command prompt?
[09:39] <rickyfingers> oh, and also, what happens when you do a ps -ef | grep dhcp ?
[09:39] <mgs88> When I try to update give me this Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>) pleas any 1 just say something
[09:40] <zarlino> rickyfingers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14050/
[09:40] <zarlino> rickyfingers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14051/
[09:41] <pigsflyme> hello, has anyone tried using public and private key authentication on 8.04?
[09:41] <bazhang> gpg pigsflyme ?
[09:42] <pigsflyme> for some reason i am not able to get mine to work even though test login works
[09:42] <eisenhower> question. when i do "make ; sudo make install  " Is this the directoryt he program is in ? and do i need to move it or build it else where to make my organization cleaner?
[09:42] <pigsflyme> bazhang: nope.. just rsa pub and private for ssh
[09:42] <pigsflyme> eisenhower: it depends on ur configure command
[09:43] <Ganondorf> bazhang:  trying to send it
[09:43] <Ganondorf> well i did
[09:43] <eisenhower> pigsflyme: can you give me a example?
[09:43] <bazhang> Ganondorf, dont
[09:43] <Ganondorf> ok
[09:43] <pigsflyme> eisenhower: usually when u do a ./configure --prefix="/usr/local/someapp/"
[09:43] <pigsflyme> when u perform a make install
[09:43] <pigsflyme> it will be installed to that directory
[09:43] <Ganondorf> so what do i do now
[09:44] <rickyfingers> zarlino: ok, here's something to try: give the server a static ip reboot, and afterward, make sure there are no dhcp processes.
[09:44] <bazhang> Ganondorf, what about popping a dvd (physical dvd) and playing that-->also blue screen?
[09:44] <eisenhower> oh! snap!   . is that where you install all your apps?  yet another thing i'm confused to .. b/c apps seem to be scattered
[09:44] <zarlino> rickyfingers: it's not a serve, it is my laptop and i'm using connection manager
[09:45] <zarlino> rickyfingers: NetworkManager sorry
[09:46] <rickyfingers> zarlino: just saying, I've seen NetworkManager screw things up big time.  Sometimes things work better when I do things the old school way, and bypass it.
[09:46] <zarlino> rickyfingers: ok, i'll try, going to disconnect
[09:46] <zarlino> rickyfingers: thank you!
[09:47] <zarlino> rickyfingers: your support is great!
[09:47] <rickyfingers> *any ubuntu developers listening now?* wpa dies once a week or so why?
[09:47] <Ganondorf> its not the screen thats blue the ppl skin appear blue
[09:47] <Ganondorf> and when i put in a dvd
[09:47] <Ganondorf> no sound
[09:48] <rickyfingers> wrt54g + ubuntu wpa 2 personal + one week = no signal.  Why?
[09:48] <Gui13> hey guys
[09:48] <Ganondorf> beyonce is all blue at the moment
[09:48] <Ganondorf> not the screen
[09:48] <bazhang> Ganondorf, what about youtube videos
[09:48] <Gui13> gnome-session-preferences won't save my modifications, do you have an idea why?
[09:49] <pete_> afternoon all
[09:49] <administrateur> oh
[09:49] <pete_> anyone else had issues with hardy not playing sound from other sources when you pause rythmbox? mocp will still play but no firefox sound
[09:49] <administrateur> oh
[09:49] <administrateur> oh
[09:49] <administrateur> oh
[09:49] <administrateur> oh
[09:49] <Ganondorf> the colour is normal
[09:49] <FloodBot1> administrateur: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:49] <Ganondorf> nothing wrong there
[09:50] <baheer_> how can i update skype through comand line
[09:50] <FloodBot1> administrateur: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:50] <bazhang> what about color in dvd (forget sound for now)
[09:50] <rickyfingers> pete_: they've never had things worked out with alsa and the other sound driver (can't remember name now) hogging the device.
[09:51] <pete_> rickyfingers: aah ok. Ill just sit with mocp for a bit then heh
[09:51] <rickyfingers> Just like I can't hear realplayer after watching youtoube (flash)
[09:51] <blivori> Hi
[09:51] <blivori> How do I format a USB pendrive into ext#?
[09:51] <bazhang> blivori, cfdisk
[09:51] <blivori> bazhang: ahh theres no gui program?
[09:51] <rickyfingers> pete_: I'm sure there's a process I could kill to fix without rebooting, but I've never figured out what that is.
[09:52] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com blivori
[09:52] <blivori> bazhang I don't want to put a linux distro on it, I want to put files
[09:52] <Ganondorf> the colour in the dvd the ppl are still blue
[09:52] <Ganondorf> beyonce is all blue
[09:52] <Gui13> an idea for my problem?
[09:52] <Gui13> gnome-session-preferences won't save my modifications, do you have an idea why?
[09:53] <bazhang> Ganondorf, sounds like a conflict between compiz and potentially your video drivers; may want to ask in #compiz-fusion
[09:53] <bazhang> blivori, gparted then?
[09:53] <toresn> how do i add color on keywords in man pages? i use the gnome-terminal
[09:53] <rickyfingers> blivori: All you want to do is copy files to a memory stick?
[09:53] <toresn> (i don't want to use 'most')
[09:54] <Ganondorf> hmmm ok cool
[09:54] <vega--> i'm trying to upgrade from 7.10 (fully updated) to 8.04, but update-manager doesn't give the opportunity (there's no "upgrade to 8.04 button), what's wrong? not even when running update-manager -c
[09:54] <blivori> rickyfingers: yes
[09:54] <bazhang> vega should be -d right?
[09:54] <rickyfingers> vega: back everything up and do a clean install.
[09:54] <vega--> bazhang: no? that's for devel releases
[09:54] <rickyfingers> blivori: what does "mount" tell you at the command prompt?
[09:54] <blivori> bazhang: for some reasn qparted is not starting up. I'll try GParted
[09:54] <vega--> rickyfingers: ehh, bad advice
[09:55] <rickyfingers> Anything about /dev/sda ...
[09:55] <bazhang> sudo do-release-upgrade then vega
[09:55] <blivori> rickyfingers: the usb pen drive is found. Its just that itsfat and i want to turn it to ext
[09:55] <blivori> its fat*
[09:55] <vega--> bazhang: "Checking for new ubuntu release. No new release found"
[09:55] <gordonjcp> blivori: so put it on a diet then
[09:56] <rickyfingers> blivori: out of my league, you need a utility that will convert fat to ext, I'm not sure if such a beast exists.
[09:56] <blivori> gordonjcp: .)
[09:56] <gordonjcp> blivori: reformat as ext ;-)
[09:56] <bazhang> vega--, what I did was changed gutsy to hardy in sources list then update and then dist-upgraded
[09:56] <rickyfingers> It might be easier to copy disk to backup, reformat mem stick, and copy files back over.
[09:56] <blivori> rickyfingers: so its not possible/recommended to use ext3 on a pendrive for file storage?
[09:57] <vega--> bazhang: yes, but that's not recommended.. i'd like this to work the official way, no kludging
[09:57] <Trotamundo> I'm trying to install 8.04 x64 in a box that only has a TV connected. The installer doesn't start up. Tryed text based setup and all went fine, but when I restarted the computer, X doesn't start. I have a NVIDIA 8500 graphics board.
[09:57] <rickyfingers> blivori: it's possible, but what I'm saying is I don't know of any utility that will convert fat file system to ext3 file system.
[09:57] <bazhang> vega--, it was too late for me; did it that way before I found out about official way
[09:57] <vega--> bazhang: for me it isn't :)
[09:57] <blivori> rickyfingers: ok I'll send an email to Microsoft and ask them
[09:58] <bazhang> vega true :) read !upgrade
[09:58] <blivori> :)
[09:58] <rickyfingers> blivori: It's not worth anyone's time to do so anyway, because it's easier to copy all the files to backup, reformat the drive, and copy the files back to the original medium.
[09:58] <vega--> !upgrade
[09:58] <rickyfingers> blivori: surely you are joking.  Microsoft will never respond.
[09:58] <vega--> read that, been there
[09:58] <blivori> rickyfingers: and I do that by using GParted?
[09:59] <blivori> rickyfingers: well they want to increase open source .). Did you read tat article when they send an email to the blender devs asking them about file formats?
[09:59] <rickyfingers> blivori: let me make it clear that you should start by making a copy of every file on the memory stick in the first place.
[09:59] <bazhang>  blivori  back up first
[09:59] <blivori> rickyfingers: I did -.-
[09:59] <rickyfingers> Yes, then you can use gparted to reformat the memory stick.
[09:59] <eisenhower> how can I figure out where a program is installed?
[10:00] <blivori> rickyfingers: its not working
[10:00] <bazhang> eisenhower, which
[10:00] <rickyfingers> try something like this at the command prompt: mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 /dev/sdb1
[10:01] <rickyfingers> where /dev/sdwhatever is your mem stick.
[10:01]  * alpha is away: je retourne dans la vraie vie ;-) Je reviendrai ! (si je peut)
[10:01] <blivori> rickyfingers: thanks I love you
[10:01] <rickyfingers> If your shell complains about mkfs.ext3 not existing, then there's a big part of your problem.
[10:01] <bazhang> !away > alpha
[10:01] <rickyfingers> blivori: don't joke about that.  it's insulting.
[10:02] <blivori> rickyfingers: ok then. thanks I hate you
[10:02] <bazhang> eisenhower, which java for example
[10:02] <rickyfingers> blivori: that's better.
[10:02] <balachmar> Hi, does anyone know how too automatically unlock wifi at startup when you are using auto login? I used to use libpam-keyring-tool for that, but I cannot find that package in hardy.
[10:02] <blivori> rickyfingers: :) . aaaaaaaathommmmmmmmmmoooooood. thak
[10:02] <eisenhower> well what would yo uknow thats install installed in usr/bin ?
[10:02] <eisenhower> b/c everything i keep testing pops up there
[10:03] <blivori> rickyfingers: erm what the hell
[10:03] <bazhang> eisenhower, most is
[10:04] <blivori> rickyfingers: but now I can't mount the drive
[10:04] <eisenhower> bazhang:  one last question. and thanks for helping out.  You know where documentation is usualy located?
[10:04] <rickyfingers> too easy  what's dmesg say?  that'll tell you what /dev/whatever the mem stick is.
[10:04] <rickyfingers> blivori: do dmesg | less to capture the output
[10:04] <gordonjcp> blivori: What exactly are you trying to do?
[10:05] <bazhang> eisenhower, in the manual pages you mean? such as man dpkg or other
[10:05] <Ganondorf> bazhang:  this is strange if i click on the dvd icon on my desktop movie player opens beyonce is still blue but no sound if i open up the dvd and choose the file it self i hear audio
[10:05] <Ganondorf> but she still blue
[10:05] <blivori> gordonjcp: copy files onto an ext3 pen drive
[10:06] <rickyfingers> blivori: then you just have to sudo mount /dev/reformatted-pen-drive-id /wherever you want
[10:06] <eisenhower> bazhang: for example  if i did man gcc  where is that docu coming from? is it part of the program or something?
[10:06] <blivori> rickyfingers: and?
[10:06] <blivori> rickyfingers: it is mounted
[10:06] <Omniwoof> Hello All!
[10:06] <robbie``> hi
[10:06] <caesiumhydroxid> hoi
[10:06] <rickyfingers> where? what does the output say when you type "mount"
[10:06] <Omniwoof> <--- complete ubuntu nub here. ;)
[10:06] <bazhang> eisenhower, they are often installed with the packages iirc; though some may not have them and you have to package --help
[10:06] <gordonjcp> blivori: ok
[10:06] <blivori> ricky in /dev/sdb1
[10:06] <gordonjcp> blivori: and what's stopping you doing that?
[10:06] <caesiumhydroxid> ^^
[10:07] <blivori> gordonjcp: permission denied
[10:07] <eisenhower> bazhang:  aite cool. ty for the help
[10:07] <gordonjcp> blivori: hm
[10:07] <bazhang> :)
[10:07] <rickyfingers> blivori: that doesn't sound right.  /dev/sdb1 sounds like the device, what directory is it mounted on?
[10:07] <blivori> rickyfingers: sudo mount /dev/reformatted-pen-drive-id
[10:07] <blivori> rickyfingers: dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,data=ordered)
[10:07] <rickyfingers> ok, then do a cd /media/disk
[10:08] <rickyfingers> and try "touch test" or "sudo touch test" what happens?
[10:08] <blivori> rickyfingers: touch test -> permission denied
[10:08] <blivori> rickyfingers: and sudo touch test just takes me back to /media/disk
[10:09] <rickyfingers> blivori: now do a "ls" do you see a file called "test" ?
[10:09] <blivori> rickyfingers: yes. Lost+found   test
[10:09] <rickyfingers> blivori: can you paste me the exact output?
[10:10] <blivori> rickyfingers: I just did.
[10:10] <Jaikkuli> do i have to set unbuntu to look under certain workgroups in order to see those network workgroups?
[10:10] <Omniwoof> I was wondering if I could ask some basic questions about ubuntu here? It's with regards to hardware and drivers.
[10:10] <Jaikkuli> for example.. mine is mshome.. i want to see the other computers on ubuntu
[10:11] <m1dn1ght> hey guys- I seem to have corrupted my boot loader while trying to install a different distro on a seperate partition.  I get "No operating system found".  Ubuntu still seems to be OK on its partition, so can anyone please tell me how to restore my settings?  (Using Live CD atm)
[10:11] <spion> hi
[10:11] <RealNitro> short question: is there a script in ubuntu that allows me to switch from gcc 3.2 to 4.1 (both are installed)
[10:11] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: dont ask to ask, just ask
[10:11] <spion> is there any documentation how to configure shorewall in a bridged xen environment (kernel > 2.6.20) with shorewall-perl? Maybe any other firewall frontend?
[10:12] <KillerOrca> anyone know how to set a non-static ip?
[10:12] <jftsang> What's the command for getting a .deb to extract?
[10:13] <blivori> rickyfingers: its lost+found     test
[10:13] <spion> killerorca: hmm?
[10:13] <spion> how should be a non-statical thing be set?
[10:14] <billybongo> killerOrca: man interfaces
[10:14] <rickyfingers> Then you can write to the device, and it is mounted, otherwise you wouldn't see test.    You should see it too.  The device will probably show up in gnome after you reboot.
[10:15] <Jaikkuli> can someone tell me how i can see other computers on my windows network through ubuntu
[10:15] <Omniwoof> Jai: Thanks. I'm having trouble with my audio output at the moment and I want to check why. I'm 90% sure it's because there aren't any drivers available (using a digital output to an amp which is a little unusal). I coudln't find anything under sound settings, and i want to check to see if the audio drivers are installed properly. How do I do this?
[10:15] <gordonjcp> !samba | Jaikkuli
[10:16] <Omniwoof> Jiakuli: I just shared the folders on the windows machines and used, 'Connect to Server' under the 'Places' menu. Browse away and you should be able to connect.
[10:17] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: i can only give one suggestion.. look under system/admin/hardware drivers.. see if it says you are lacking some drivers there
[10:17] <novato_br> is there some brazilian guy ?
[10:18] <vega--> trying to upgrade from 7.10 (fully updated) to 8.04, but update-manager doesn't give the "upgrade to 8.04 button". not even when running update-manager -c
[10:18] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: so is server like workgroup name?
[10:18] <Jaikkuli> or is that domain name
[10:19] <Omniwoof> Jia: I'll walk you through it.
[10:19] <Omniwoof> Jia: Firstly what windows OS are you running? Vista? Xp?
[10:19] <Jaikkuli> ubuntu :D
[10:19] <pihhan> hello
[10:19] <Omniwoof> chuckles
[10:19] <pihhan> i have problems with wifi kill switch on ubuntu hardy
[10:19] <blivori> Jaikkuli: since when w UBUNTUoney Microoft?
[10:19] <pihhan> anyone have it working?
[10:20] <blivori> OMG.
[10:20] <soulhacker> hi guys am behind  a http proxy with authenitication how can i do svn checkout????thanks in advance??
[10:21] <Omniwoof> Jia: Are there other PC's in the network running windows?
[10:21] <rrohde> blivori: can you rephrase that sentence? :)
[10:21] <Jaikkuli> well.. it is not.. i never said it was.. the only thing i said about microsoft or windows is that the network was.. (despite the fact i didnt know routers were native to an OS.. but when i go into Network in ubuntu.. it says Windows Network
[10:21] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: yes, the other computers are using windows
[10:21] <blivori> rrohde: no. somethin is wrong ith my keybord
[10:21] <blivori> rrohde: omg.
[10:21] <Omniwoof> Jia: Great! XP or vista or NT? Or is it a mix?
[10:21] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: xp
[10:22] <Omniwoof> Jia: Ok thats good news because it should be fairly straightforward. Next question: Have you enabled filesharing on the XP machine(s)?
[10:22] <soulhacker> hi guys am behind  a http proxy with authenitication how can i do svn checkout????thanks in advance
[10:22] <Jaikkuli> it should already be configured correctly.. as this computer used to run xp.. and they would share things fine
[10:22] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: yes :)
[10:23] <Omniwoof> Jia: Good to know. :) Running a firewall? Nortons, trendmicro?
[10:23] <Jaikkuli> dont think so
[10:23] <Omniwoof> Jia: OK we'll assume not for now. OK now go to places, and got o connect to server.
[10:23] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: incase you didnt see.. i said it worked perfectly fine before, when this laptop was using xp.. so i figure the same config should be fine now, if it was then
[10:23] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: done
[10:23] <pihhan> soulhacker: is your repository http(s) or ssh based?
[10:24] <Omniwoof> Jia: Shit shit.. Sorry Jia.. I had this working last night. Now it's screwed up.
[10:24] <Jaikkuli> haha :D oh damn
[10:24] <soulhacker> pihhan:svn checkout svn://svn.berlios.de/linux-uvc/linux-uvc/trunk
[10:24] <dimas869> i need to copy two file to a different directory....how do i do that?
[10:25] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: tell me what you did, and i will try to play around with it
[10:25] <Kanashimi> Hi there. I just upgraded a Ubuntu server edition system to 8.04. In the same it decided to remove tmda from the system, which is a required package for the system in question. Is there any way to install tmda in hardy at the moment through apt-get? Or do I need to build the sourcecode myself outside the package system?
[10:25] <Omniwoof> Jia: Sorry, try this, 'Places' then 'Network'
[10:25] <ikonia> Omniwoof: please be mindful of your language
[10:25] <Omniwoof> Does it show you the windows workgroup name?
[10:25] <dimas869> what is the command on terminal to copy a file to a different directory?
[10:25] <dpreacher> is there some place to check the softwares being installed after a sudo aptitude safe-upgrade?
[10:25] <soulhacker> pihhan:dont know type must be http i guess
[10:25] <ikonia> dimas869: cp
[10:26] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: it doesnt show mshome atleast.. it does show "windows network"
[10:26] <Kanashimi> dogmeat: man cp
[10:26] <Kanashimi> Erp, wrong name
[10:26] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: and if i go inside that.. no computers
[10:26] <pihhan> soulhacker: you cannot do that easily then
[10:26] <Kanashimi> dimas869: man cp
[10:26] <soulhacker> pihhan:i am not worried about it being easy can i do it dats da question??
[10:27] <dimas869> kanashimi man cp "file name" and then i guess paste right?
[10:27] <ikonia> dimas869: no - cp $source $target
[10:27] <ikonia> dimas869: replace source with your source file and target with your target location
[10:27] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: did you get those messages?
[10:27] <Kanashimi> dimas869: man is to show you a manual page of the command 'cp' which is used to copy files.
[10:27] <pihhan> soulhacker: dont know, you would need some tunel to change normal TCP connection to HTTP request to your proxy. i believe there are some tools, but never done that
[10:28] <dimas869> kanashimi is the file going to also remain in the same directory?
[10:28] <Kanashimi> dimas869: Yes.
[10:28] <Wallgod> Hi All... please HELP.. i have uploaded some sites on a server thru FireFTP. Some of the folders i have set permissions to 2777 so that the client can uplaod images.... recently there is some crap javascript getting injected in th index files creating problems.... please help
[10:28] <pihhan> soulhacker: i would try downloading normal release if you havent tried, you will have it much easier
[10:28] <soulhacker> pihhan:ya i know i think proxychains should do it i have it will try and tell you
[10:28] <Omniwoof> Jia: sigh Sorry Jia. I wish I could help, but I must have just lucked out with the network sharing.
[10:28] <ikonia> Wallgod: are you sure you want 2777
[10:28] <ikonia> Wallgod: thats very open permissions
[10:29] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: no worries.. but canyou tell me how you configured it with the connect to server thing?
[10:29] <Wallgod> ikonia, thanks for replying... i need to update an xml file in the root folder and upload images to another folder
[10:29] <dimas869> kanashimi if perhaps the file is in /usr/lip/codecs and name is win32 how that would be then?
[10:29] <Bollinger> why oh why does ubuntu 8.04 install a beta version of firefox..
[10:29] <Omniwoof> Jia: Well thats the thing. Last time I looked at it there was an option to choose 'Windows Share' then browse for the network. Since I've updated it seems gone.
[10:29] <ikonia> Wallgod: yes, that makes sense, but are you sure your want the permissons to be very wide open with 2777
[10:30] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: well i still have windows share
[10:30] <soulhacker> pihhan:ok i will try the normal release thanx anyways
[10:30] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: but i dont really see a way to "browse" exactly.. i still have to insert information
[10:30] <Kanashimi> dimas869: cp /usr/lib/codecs/win32 /what/ever/path        -- If you read the manual page, it will explain things for you. Including recursive copying, etc.
[10:31] <ikonia> soulhacker: there are PROXY environment varibles for SVN
[10:31] <Wallgod> ikonia, honestly i dont understand this permissions thing too well.. in FireFTP i right click a folder and set to Read, Write and Execute and it sets the permissions to 2777
[10:31] <ikonia> soulhacker: I don't know them to hand, but you can do things like SVN_PROXY=<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:31] <soulhacker> ikonia:exprt http_proxy already tried
[10:31] <dimas869> kanashimi is that manual apt-get?
[10:31] <ikonia> soulhacker: is that an svn varible, or generic
[10:31] <Kanashimi> Anyone here have TMDA running on Hardy 8.04?
[10:31] <soulhacker> ikonia:will  google your suggestion
[10:31] <Kanashimi> dimas869: Type 'man cp' sans the quotes.
[10:32] <dpreacher> is there some place to check the softwares being installed after a sudo aptitude safe-upgrade?
[10:32] <ikonia> Wallgod: well, I suggest you look at your client then
[10:32] <Omniwoof> Jia: I'm still trying to look for it since this is something I'm going to have learn eventually anyway. I'll let you know if I find something.
[10:32] <ikonia> soulhacker: why ?
[10:32] <zorglu_> q. what is the channel name for the motu people ?
[10:32] <Wallgod> ikonia, look at the client?
[10:33] <Wallgod> ikonia, can u suggest me a folder permissions number that i can directly put in the right click options
[10:33] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: i am going to try to access the other pc by typing in the name in the address bar.. like smb:///Computer/ or something.. but i am not sure if that is exactly it, do you know?
[10:33] <zcat[1]>  Wallgod: if someone needs to uload files, it would be bets to give them an account with password, and give that account access. I gather you're allowing Anonymous ftp logins to write to folders, which is really insecure.. ppy will upload javascript exploits, etc. as you're seeing
[10:33] <ikonia> Wallgod: who hosts this website ?
[10:33] <zvacet> dpreacher : mayb in synaptic>file tab>history
[10:33] <soulhacker> ikonia:well svn_proxy on google gave no results and that variable is generic(got my wget working with that)
[10:34] <ikonia> soulhacker: I guess you have read this
[10:34] <ikonia> http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#proxy
[10:34] <Wallgod> zcat[1],  ikonia , only the client will use this side of the site... its a CMS
[10:34] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: because i think it sees the mshome network.. it just doesnt see the computer.. for no particlar reason.. i have had this problem. which seems to come and go for no reason.. on both ubuntu and windows.. so this might help
[10:34] <ikonia> soulhacker: ok - thats the problem
[10:34] <dpreacher> zvacet only ssh access now...command line solution preferable
[10:34] <ikonia> soulhacker: I said I can't remember the exact options to off the top of my head it is something like "svn_proxy"
[10:34] <Omniwoof> Jia: On my it's smb://{workgroup]
[10:34] <ikonia> soulhacker: and the generic variable will not be picked up by svn
[10:34] <RoadHazard> jakkul: did you put a wins server in the mix
[10:34] <Omniwoof> Sorry: smb://workgroup
[10:34] <zvacet> zorglu_ :#ubuntu-motu
[10:35] <ikonia> Wallgod: who hosts this website ?
[10:35] <Wallgod> ikonia, there is this space we(company i work for) got from Answerable.com
[10:35] <Wallgod> ikonia, they host all our sites
[10:35] <Omniwoof> Where 'workgroup' is the name of your workgroup, sop for you I believe it will be smb://MSHOME
[10:35] <ikonia> Wallgod: contact your provider then and ask them to fix the permissions, 2777 is not a wise permission set
[10:35] <zorglu_> zvacet, ok thqnks
[10:35] <ikonia> Wallgod: they will know what to do rather than expalin it to you
[10:35] <soulhacker> ikonia:got it my squid doesnt support svn methods propfind etc
[10:35] <zorglu_> thanks even :)
[10:35] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: do you mean... do i have a windows server computer in my network.. or?
[10:35] <Wallgod> ikonia, ok.... thanks...
[10:35] <ikonia> soulhacker: looks like y our running out of options then
[10:36] <RoadHazard> Jaikkuli: did you set your smb server to also serve wins
[10:36] <Jaikkuli> i am not sure
[10:36] <{g}> Hey People! For Gnome, is there any kind of commandline-utility to change the screen resolution? Or do i always have to edit the x-config and restart gnome etc if i want to try a new resolution?
[10:36] <Jaikkuli> i dont recall so
[10:36] <Wallgod> ikonia, zcat[1], is there a folder permission number that i can write instead of 2777
[10:36] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: i dont think so
[10:36] <ikonia> Wallgod: no - contact your hosting provider
[10:36] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: how would i do that
[10:36] <eisenhower> cansomeone tell me what pwds stands for?
[10:36] <ikonia> Wallgod: this is not something you can change
[10:36] <soulhacker> ikonia:yup thanks anyways will try to get a precompiled deb or  tar.gz anyways thanks
[10:36] <RoadHazard> Jaikkuli: can you get the samba box by ip?
[10:36] <ikonia> Wallgod: your hosting provider will fix this for you
[10:36] <soundray> {g}: if you graphics and driver support it, you can use xrandr
[10:36] <Jaikkuli> samba box?
[10:36] <Wallgod> ikonia, ok thanks again
[10:37] <sarmisak> eisenhower: passwords?
[10:37] <RoadHazard> smb
[10:37] <eisenhower> sarmisak:  mhmm kay thats what i thought
[10:37] <Jaikkuli> i dont know... :D how do i do that?
[10:37] <RoadHazard> smb://###.###.###.###
[10:37] <sarmisak> eisenhower: it might also mean print working(curren) directory
[10:38] <Jaikkuli> well i think it works if i put in smb://mshome
[10:38] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: but i still see no computers there
[10:38] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: if i put in smb://mshome
[10:38] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: i doubt putting the ip would make a difference
[10:39] <RoadHazard> youre going to need something in there serving names instead of numbers
[10:39] <joanki2> does anyonek now how i get get sqlalchemy?
[10:39] <{g}> soundray: hmm.. xrandr does not take resolutions as input. only index numbers of predefined resolutions.
[10:39] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: i dont really know what you are talking about :D
[10:39] <RoadHazard> try getting the smb server by ip if you would
[10:40] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: which ip do i use.. i am not very knowledgable with ips..
[10:40] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: gateway ip or?
[10:40] <RoadHazard> the ip of the machine you are attempting to contact at smb://waddever
[10:40] <Jaikkuli> oh
[10:41] <snowblink> anyone else getting bad headers from gb.archive.ubuntu.com?
[10:41] <zcat[1]> RoadHazard, Jaikkuli: be aware that SMB works on a master server / broadcast system.. it can take a number of minutes for machines to elect a master browser and get around to announcing themselves so that other machines can see them on the network. Sometimes the best way to fix samba problems is go make a cup of coffee and come back in five minutes.
[10:41] <RoadHazard> thats why I'm looking at accessing by ip, to see if its serving names yet
[10:41] <Omniwoof> zcat1: Thanks for that. Good to know what it's doing in the background.
[10:42] <soundray> {g}: you want to switch to a non pre-defined resolution dynamically? I don't think the design of X allows that.
[10:42] <{g}> soundray: ok. damn x coders. lamers. stupid.
[10:43] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: well i put in smb:// followed by the ip.. didnt give me any prompts.. just an empty window
[10:43] <RoadHazard> try pinging that ip?
[10:43] <ikonia> soundray: could he not hardcode it into xorg.conf ?
[10:43] <Jaikkuli> how?
[10:43] <zcat[1]> Jaikkuli: OK, so samba is there but no folders are being shared?
[10:43] <RoadHazard> terminal > ping ###.###.###.###
[10:44] <Jaikkuli> zcat[1]: there is files being shared.. i know because when this computer had xp on it.. it could see the other computer.. and see its files just fine before
[10:44] <soundray> ikonia: hardcoding = pre-defining
[10:44] <soundray> {g}: pull yourself together
[10:45] <ikonia> soundray: but that would only be a one time definition, I missed the first part of the question so I don't know if thats important to him.
[10:45] <soundray> {g}: at the time X was designed, nobody assumed that monitors would ever support more than one resolution
[10:45] <Omniwoof> Jia: I'd try pinging the windows machine first. Make sure you are actually getting a connection through the network, then I'd grab a folder on the XP machine, right click, go to sharing and security and make it a shared folder. Just to be 100% that it is shared and you can conect to it.
[10:45] <KillerOrca> does anyone know how to set up a non-static ip?
[10:46] <Omniwoof> KillerOrca: Local network or WAN?
[10:46] <ikonia> KillerOrca: open networking system -> Administration, and set your card to dhcp
[10:46] <soundray> KillerOrca: dynamic IP = DHCP
[10:46] <{g}> soundray: yeah
[10:46] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: well the ping is currently sitting there
[10:46] <KillerOrca> Omniwoof: not sure
[10:46] <zcat[1]> soundray: I'm not exactly sure how this works, but with the nvidia drivers I have only one resolution defined in xorg.conf and of course alt+/- does nothing, but  nvidia-settings lets me jump to any other res and refresh rate quite easily (without quitting session, etc) so the functionality is in there somewhere
[10:46] <KillerOrca> ikonia: no gui
[10:46] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: guess it isnt finding anything
[10:47] <RoadHazard> Jaikkuli: are you on the same subnet as the smb machine?
[10:47] <Jaikkuli> subnet? you mean.. connected to the same network?
[10:47] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: we are connected to my same wireless router yes
[10:48] <napsy_> Hello. I've created a new virtual display with Xvfb with a screen numbered 1. I started a program on that screen. Now I want to atart another program on the same display on a different screen. How to do that?
[10:48] <zcat[1]> Jaikkuli: 192.168.1.x .. same first three numbers on both machines?
[10:48] <RoadHazard> if you cant ping it youre not gonna smb it
[10:48] <Jaikkuli> zcat[1]: yes
[10:48] <soundray> zcat[1]: are you sure it lets you set *any* combination? I think it will support VESA modes plus some extra ones, but not arbitrary resolutions (say, 1000x800)
[10:48] <mgs88> When I try to update give me this Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[10:48] <mcphail> KillerOrca: examples under "man interfaces"
[10:48] <ikonia> KillerOrca: your using the server edition ?
[10:48] <Jaikkuli> zcat[1]: wait a sec
[10:49] <RoadHazard> mgs88: have you been doing anythign with the firewall?
[10:49] <Jaikkuli> no.. i think this computer has a different ip
[10:49] <mgs88> no
[10:49] <KillerOrca> ikonia: in a way, with gui was way to slow, so I turned it off and it is headless
[10:49] <zcat[1]> soundray: well, yeah.. any supported res I think.. the point is they're not predefined in xorg.conf and I can't switch res with alt-+ or alt--
[10:49] <Jaikkuli> zcat[1]: the one starting in 192.168.1. should be the first IP address right.. the one at the top? in connection information?
[10:50] <zcat[1]> .. but nvidia-config can jump to other settings without restarting X or writing new stuff to xorg.conf
[10:50] <Jaikkuli> beause mine is nothing like that.. however the other computer does start with 192.168.1
[10:50] <RoadHazard> Jaikkuli: and theyre all plugged into the same router?
[10:50] <soundray> zcat[1]: "predefined" doesn't necessarily mean "predefined in xorg.conf" though. Look through /var/log/Xorg.0.log and you'll probably see that it probes various modes during startup and thus pre-defines them.
[10:50] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: wireless.. well let me check again
[10:50] <mgs88> RoadHazard: I just installed foxyproxy and I remove it
[10:51] <dylan_> I'm trying to set up file sharing between to ubuntu machines plugged into a router. I right clicked on the folder and selected sharing options and it said I didn't have permission.
[10:51] <RoadHazard> ahh mgs you need to stop it from looking for a proxy
[10:52] <dylan_> I didn't see a place to type the PW in
[10:52] <RoadHazard> because its looking for foxy at 4001
[10:52] <zcat[1]> soundray: like I said, I'm not really sure how it works.. but I know I used to have to have a line like "1196x967" "1024x768" "800x600" and I could switch between them .. what nvidia-settings does is something different than this
[10:53] <ikonia> zcat[1]: doesn't nvidia-settings to it in memory though ?
[10:53] <mgs88>  RoadHazard:that is right but I remove it
[10:53] <Jaikkuli> zcat[1], RoadHazard i dont know what happened.. but i reconnected the other computer.. and now everything works fine.. the network now shows as mshome.. and the other computers shows up
[10:53] <RoadHazard> and in what are you getting the cannot connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:4001
[10:53] <zcat[1]> Jaikkuli: It's been a few minutes.. 'magic' -- you should have just gone and had a coffee like I suggested ;)
[10:54] <RoadHazard> Jaikkuli: ahh the master browser lag, well good, party on jai
[10:54] <Jaikkuli> zcat[1]: :D like me.. i hate sitting around and waiting
[10:54]  * Jaikkuli dances around the room naked
[10:54] <Jaikkuli> thanks guys
[10:54] <Omniwoof> Jia: Gratz!
[10:54] <RoadHazard> Jaikkuli: then do not dabble in the affairs of DNS its a patient mans game
[10:55] <dylan_> I'm trying to set up file sharing between to ubuntu machines plugged into a router. I right clicked on the folder and selected sharing options and it said I didn't have permission.
[10:55] <dylan_> I'm trying to set up file sharing between to ubuntu machines plugged into a router. I right clicked on the folder and selected sharing options and it said I didn't have permission.
[10:55] <dylan_> ooops
[10:55] <FloodBot1> dylan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:55] <dylan_> sorry.
[10:55] <lopin> I need a way to tell why my wireless isn't working?
[10:55] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: i guess i am just a typical cool guy.. i like my fast cars, girls and food
[10:55] <Omniwoof> Jia: BTW it was probably windows. Often you'll have to restart or disconnect/reconnect a machine from the network to get a workgroup to actually show up.
[10:56] <Jaikkuli> Omniwoof: yeah.. well there is one other reason i have to convince my girlfriend to use ubuntu
[10:56] <mgs88> RoadHazard: how to set default proxy
[10:56] <RoadHazard> mgs88: in what program?
[10:56] <lopin> Like, it was working before I took apart the laptop to clean it, but I don't now if it's the driver acting up again, or I might have broken the antennas...
[10:56] <zcat[1]> SMB is pretty braindead but not too bad once it's working.. nfs has some pretty annoying issues too..
[10:57] <mgs88> RoadHazard: for the apt
[10:57] <soulhacker> hi anybody know  a replacment for update-modules in hardy
[10:57] <Omniwoof> Jia: laughs Well good luck with that. Dunno what sort of support this channel has for girlfriend though. ;)
[10:58] <zcat[1]> 'man girlfriend' -- I don't think they come with a manpage though..
[10:58] <lopin> If I were to set up an adhoc network, and see if another computer can pick it up?  Could someone tell me how I'd do that?
[10:58] <RoadHazard> mgs88: could you postbin your /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:59] <zcat[1]> !girlfriend
[11:00] <RoadHazard> !girls
[11:00] <zcat[1]> hmm.. even ubotu doesn't understand them..
[11:00]  * Omniwoof waits for the inevitable /mount jokes. ;)
[11:00] <fxtgear> girls love facebook
[11:01] <mgs88> RoadHazard: there is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[11:01] <fxtgear> they get wet for zuckerberg
[11:01] <KillerOrca> non static ip setup?
[11:01] <zcat[1]> there are girls on our urban terror server. They keep killing me!
[11:02] <RoadHazard> mgs88: look at System-Menu -> Preferences -> Network Proxy
[11:03] <Omniwoof> Without wanting to seem too impatient can anyone help me diag my audio output via digial optical issue?
[11:03] <joanki2> has anyone ever gotten this error message ? ImportError: cannot import name sessionmaker
[11:03] <magnetron> Omniwoof: just state your problem and ask your question
[11:04] <magnetron> !anyone | Omniwoof, joanki2
[11:04] <KillerOrca> command line non static ip setup?
[11:05] <Jaikkuli> where is the wine c: directory placed?
[11:05] <Omniwoof> Ok, motherboard is an gigabtye GA-p35-s3l with onboard HD Audio and digital output. At the moment there is no output via the digial audio. need to check to see if I have the right drivers (if they exist).
[11:05] <fxtgear> /home/user/.wine
[11:05] <Jaikkuli> fxtgear: thanks
[11:05] <magnetron> Jaikkuli: are you using the standard wine in ubuntu? applications menu > wine > c: drive
[11:06] <billybongo> KillerOrca: see my message earlier
[11:06] <mgs88> RoadHazard: then
[11:06] <Jaikkuli> magnetron: well i tried that.. but for some reason nothing opens when i click it
[11:06] <arno-t> hi all what is your favourite command-line tool for extracting mp3tags?
[11:06] <KillerOrca> billybongo: actually no, I got an unexpected restart and I don't know how to scroll up in irssi
[11:06] <gordonjcp> joanki2: sounds like it can't import the module called sessionmaker
[11:07] <billybongo> KillerOrca: what do you want to do - just pick up an ip number from  dhcp?
[11:07] <Jaikkuli> fxtgear: i cannot find it.. and yes i have hidden shown
[11:08] <magnetron> Jaikkuli: the folder is created the first time you run wine
[11:08] <Jaikkuli> fxtgear: perhaps i need to configure before it is made?
[11:08] <KillerOrca> billybongo: I set it to a static ip before, but it wasn't from editing the /etc/network/ file, it was using ifconfig on the command line
[11:08] <billybongo> KillerOrca: if so you could do something like "dhclient eth0"
[11:08] <mudd`Hossam> Omniwoof: right click speaker icon at the top right of your screen --> go to edit  --> preferences --> check the IEC958 option --> select close --> close the volume control --> open the volume control once more --> go to the switches tab --> enjoy spdif audio
[11:08] <RoadHazard> Jaikkuli: open terminal type winecfg
[11:09] <billybongo> KillerOrca: do you want to changes to last past a reboot?
[11:09] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: already sorted :)
[11:09] <mudd`Hossam> Omniwoof: oh and dont forget to select IEC958 from the switches tab
[11:09] <RoadHazard> k
[11:09] <Jaikkuli> RoadHazard: thanks again
[11:09] <Jaikkuli> whoops, that thanks was for everyone else
[11:09] <KillerOrca> billybongo: well before my problem was making it a lasting static ip, so yes but non-static
[11:09] <Omniwoof> Mudd: Thanks! But don't seem to have IEC958 as an option.
[11:10] <pen_> anyone know how to triple boot ?
[11:10] <pen_> I have vista ubuntu and I want to install mac together
[11:10] <KillerOrca> pen_: just install them all, windows 1st though
[11:10] <magnetron> Omniwoof: some sound cards call it "digital" or similar
[11:10] <Omniwoof> Mudd: Sorry take that back.
[11:10] <Omniwoof> Mudd: Give me a min here.
[11:10] <pen_> KillerOrca, but I want to use grub as my bootloader
[11:10] <mudd`Hossam> Omniwoof: select all of the available options, then go to switched and play with them until sound comes from your speakers
[11:10] <pen_> KillerOrca, how can I do that?
[11:10] <mudd`Hossam> Omniwoof: *switches
[11:10] <pen_> KillerOrca, I have already install vista nad ubuntu
[11:11] <RoadHazard> KillerOrca: edit /etc/network/interfaces and change the static line to this http://kszk.sch.bme.hu/net/dhcp/settingsenlin.php
[11:11] <KillerOrca> pen_: you want to install them all on the mac?
[11:11] <pen_> KillerOrca, this is a intel laptop
[11:11] <pen_> KillerOrca, I don't have a macbook
[11:11] <eth01> RoadHazard: what the hell are you doing?
[11:11] <magnetron> pen_: which OS are you planning on installing
[11:11] <KillerOrca> pen_: ok so what are the 3 OSes?
[11:11] <pen_> magnetron, mac on my intel laptop
[11:11] <RoadHazard> attempting to get him changed back over dhcp
[11:11] <pen_> KillerOrca, vista, ubuntu and mac
[11:11] <billybongo> pen_: triple booting is the same as double booting
[11:12] <billybongo> but how are you going to turn your intel PC into a mac?
[11:12] <pen_> billybob, but I'm afriad of the bootcamp from mac would destroy grub or something
[11:12] <an_tor|> pen_: you can reinstall grub easily
[11:12] <RoadHazard> if that isnt the way to do it I'm all ears
[11:12] <pen_> billybongo, my cpu supports the instruction I can install mac on it
[11:12] <magnetron> pen_: oh, can't help you with that. this IRC network would risk shutting down if we supporte piracy. sorry
[11:12] <billybongo> pen_: bootcamp probably won't even run on a   non-mac
[11:13] <eth01> RoadHazard: yes, but you don't need to put that link into .interfaces
[11:13] <eth01> (which is what you actually said)
[11:13] <RoadHazard> no no, its instructions on how to do it
[11:13] <billybongo> and yes, it would in complete breach of the license
[11:13] <pen_> why does this has to be involved with piracy?
[11:13] <eth01> RoadHazard: read over what you said.
[11:13] <RoadHazard> yeah, my bad
[11:13] <KillerOrca> pen_: mac not meant to run on non apple hardware
[11:13] <eth01> "KillerOrca: edit /etc/network/interfaces and change the static line to this http://kszk.sch.bme.hu/net/dhcp/settingsenlin.php"
[11:13] <magnetron> pen com on.
[11:13] <billybongo> pen_ have you agreed to the apple EULA?
[11:13] <eth01> thank you.
[11:14] <keebler_> ummm, sorry for my ignorance, but what is bootcamp?
[11:14] <magnetron> keebler_: a mac thing. we don't discuss it here.
[11:14] <pen_> billybongo, what do you want to say? I don't want to read through it.
[11:14] <J-a-k-e> hi all, does anyone know how i might go about changing speakers settings and setting a lfe crossover in pulseaudio?
[11:14] <CroX> I'm not getting any sound from youtube's flash, after just installing it, but the video is showing. Anyone know what can cause this?
[11:14] <KillerOrca> keebler_: mac program for running more than one OS
[11:14] <keebler_> oh ok
[11:14] <billybongo> keebler_: bootcamp is a Mac program that allows you to install XP on a mac
[11:14] <eth01> "Leopard is the world’s most advanced operating system. So advanced, it even lets you run Windows if there’s a PC application you need to use. Just get a copy of Windows and start up Boot Camp, now included with Leopard. Setup is simple and straightforward just as you’d expect with a Mac." @ keebler_
[11:15] <RoadHazard> leopard's father is a fruit, and its mother is open source
[11:15] <KillerOrca> CroX: flash is a tricky thing to work with, does it work elsewhere?
[11:15] <keebler_> ok, now why would you want to run windoze on a mac
[11:15] <Omniwoof> Mudd: Thank you, it isn't working quite yet, but I think you've pointed me in the right direction.
[11:15] <KillerOrca> keebler_: if you need to run business apps
[11:15] <magnetron> keebler_: we don't discuss it here. ok?
[11:15] <billybongo> pen_: either you have a mac, in which case you'll already have OSX on it, or you don't have one, in which case you'll need to buy OSX to put on one and agree to the EULA
[11:15] <eth01> keebler_: why would you want to run windows on ubuntu? same bloody question. moving on.
[11:15] <MrNaz> ive been using xubuntu for 4 days now, its my first real steps out of windows on the desktop world and its been great, i've gotten my one windows app (ultrastudio ide) workgin in wine, running the nvidia binary driver for 3d gfx and i've sorted sharing files between this pc and my win pcs... however 2 small niggles remain, and i need help:
[11:15] <magnetron> !piracy | pen_
[11:15] <billybongo> I use vmware fusion on my mac - it totally rocks
[11:15] <eth01> magnetron: don't be so hasty
[11:15] <MrNaz> the microphone doesn't appear to work, and the hardware volume keys dont work (thinkpad t61p)
[11:16] <CroX> KillerOrca: Checking Revver. Don't know any other place of the top of my head that has sound in flash apps.
[11:16] <magnetron> eth01: i already warned him TWICE. i'm not hasty
[11:16] <eth01> capitals :)
[11:16] <KillerOrca> CroX: southparkstudios.com uses flash to plat the episodes, try there
[11:16] <pen_> billybongo, do you guys mean that mac has always come with the macbook? no cd?
[11:16] <pen_> billybongo, omh
[11:17] <CroX> KillerOrca: Tried Revver and last.fm but neither gives sound.
[11:17] <KillerOrca> pen_: do you have an apple, I can't figure it out
[11:17] <billybongo> pen_ what do you mean by "mac" ?
[11:17] <keebler_> Magnetron, was just asking a question. Isn't that what life is al about, if you dont know ask
[11:17] <billybongo> do you mean "OSX" ?
[11:17] <pen_> yes
[11:17] <pen_> I usually call it mac
[11:17] <billybongo> pen_, the apple eula says:
[11:18] <gordonjcp> magnetron: sorry, I'm not getting where piracy comes into what pen_ is saying
[11:18] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:18] <gordonjcp> magnetron: offtopic, yes, as ompaul has helpfully pointed out ;-)
[11:18] <billybongo> 2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.
[11:18] <billybongo> A. Single Use. This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one
[11:18] <billybongo> 2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.
[11:18] <billybongo> A. Single Use. This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one
[11:18] <KillerOrca> CroX: did you install the flash plugin for firefox?
[11:18] <FloodBot1> billybongo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:18] <billybongo> pen_: A. Single Use. This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time.
[11:18] <U-G-G> hello room, i've just installed the gutsy-gibbon release and there is not options to update mozilla firefox on its menu. how will i update it
[11:18] <magnetron> gordonjcp: i can't help him install a pirated version of Mac OS here, for several reasons
[11:18] <gordonjcp> magnetron: did he explicitly say it was pirated?
[11:18]  * N3bunel saluta
[11:19] <pen_> billybongo, alright, damn that EULA, forget it...
[11:19] <KillerOrca> U-G-G: beta 1 was just released, I don't think the alphas auto update
[11:19] <archman> how to hide hostname on network?
[11:19] <pen_> magnetron, don't blackmail me
[11:19] <ompaul> pen_, please stop with the offtopic stuff thanks
[11:19] <CroX> KillerOrca: Yeah. And the video is showing just fine. It's just the sound which wont play. Playing music in Exaile works though, so that's covered.
[11:19] <magnetron> pen_: "blackmail"?
[11:19] <pen_> ompaul, I thought it's no offtopic
[11:19] <pen_> not
[11:19] <pen_> magnetron, you got the idea
[11:20] <ompaul> pen_, the side conversation
[11:20] <U-G-G> KillerOrca: so i cant update it ?
[11:20] <KillerOrca> CroX: the issue isn't the sound card at least, but flash
[11:20] <magnetron> pen_: if you bought Mac OS X, you should ask Apple for help with installing it. they have great support
[11:20] <RoadHazard> ok, I see we have the hitters in tonight, anyone help me make mono work?
[11:20] <KillerOrca> U-G-G: you can, but you have to dl it, specifically
[11:20] <CroX> KillerOrca: Yah, it would seem so. Know how to fix that?
[11:20] <U-G-G> ok ty
[11:20] <gordonjcp> pen_: long and short of it is yes, OS X can happily co-exist with Ubuntu, but this isn't the place to ask about it
[11:21] <pen_> gordonjcp, is there a channel devote for this conversation?
[11:21] <gordonjcp> pen_: no idea
[11:21] <KillerOrca> CroX: well I'm GUI-less but I will try and look with you
[11:22] <gordonjcp> pen_: #ubuntu-offtopic maybe
[11:22] <KillerOrca> CroX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213701 look through that
[11:23] <ompaul> !dualboot | pen_ this is the sum total of ontopicness for this subject
[11:23] <gordonjcp> ompaul: indeed
[11:24] <KillerOrca> CroX: this thread is about 7.10 but it might work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=664242
[11:25] <magnetron> gordonjcp, ompaul: i wish there was EFI support in ubuntu
[11:25] <CroX> KillerOrca: Thanks, I'll check that out!
[11:25] <U-G-G> 1. Install the flashplugin-nonfree package from the...." does the nonfree package means that we need to pay for it?
[11:26] <KillerOrca> U-G-G: no, it means it is not free oss software
[11:26] <KillerOrca> U-G-G: so no source code for you!
[11:26] <U-G-G> um, ok
[11:26] <U-G-G> i see
[11:27] <xpain> hiiiii
[11:27] <xpain> helooooo
[11:27] <ompaul> !hello | xpain
[11:27] <KillerOrca> U-G-G: unless it is specifically labeled as pay$ like cedega http://www.transgaming.com/ then you don't pay
[11:28] <xpain> hi i have proplem in my laptop
[11:28] <U-G-G> ok, killerorca, can i apply this on the gutsy-ribbon https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:28] <archman> how to hide hostname on network so it wont be shown in router log?
[11:29] <xpain> i instlled compiz fuison on 8.04 work great but some time when i open totem player laptop freeze
[11:29] <ZiggyFish> hello
[11:29] <xpain> i instlled compiz fuison on 8.04 work great but some time when i open totem player laptop freeze
[11:30] <ZiggyFish> Firefox keeps on freezing, and it's only on certain auser ccounts.
[11:31] <DaveTarmac> hi folks!
[11:31] <KillerOrca> U-G-G: those instructions are for older, but they should work, if you really need to update, keep in mind though the latest version isn't the final release
[11:31] <xpain> i instlled compiz fuison on 8.04 work great but some time when i open totem player laptop freeze
[11:31] <Omniwoof> Hello Davet!
[11:31] <xpain> can any one help
[11:32] <U-G-G> ok thanks KillerOrca
[11:32] <KillerOrca> xpain: grapx card?
[11:32] <DaveTarmac> Does anyone have any experience of VNC-ing to a Mac over a VPN?
[11:32] <DaveTarmac> I'm using 8.04
[11:33] <vega--> trying to upgrade from 7.10 (fully updated) to 8.04, but update-manager doesn't give the "upgrade to 8.04 button". not even when running update-manager -c
[11:33] <KillerOrca> DaveTarmac: which direction are you trying to go?
[11:33] <DaveTarmac> from Ubuntu -> Mac
[11:33] <magnetron> DaveTarmac: there should be no difference to vncing over the internet, provided that you are connected to the VPN
[11:33] <KillerOrca> vega--: hold on I think I can pull up some old install instructions
[11:34] <RoadHazard> DaveTarmac: hosting on the ubuntu box would work with x11vnc
[11:34] <soundray> vega--: try 'gksudo update-manager -d -c'
[11:34] <jimcooncat> What browser should I use in order to see websites the way they will render on a Mac?
[11:34] <soundray> vega--: 'sudo do-release-upgrade' should  work as well
[11:34] <magnetron> jimcooncat: maybe konqueror or midori
[11:34] <DaveTarmac> I've managed to establish the VPN, but when I try to use xtightvncviewer I get the IP dialog box, so I type it in then nothing happens
[11:35] <billybongo> magnetron: are you kidding?
[11:35] <vega--> soundray: neither works
[11:35] <vega--> soundray: do-release-upgrade gives "no new releases"
[11:35] <jimcooncat> magnetron: am I looking for one built with webkit?
[11:35] <billybongo> jimcooncat: define "on a mac"
[11:35] <akonkwa> Hi, I just installed XFCE on 8.04 and I wanted to know if there was a way I could activate desktop effects lik I had under gnome?
[11:35] <KillerOrca> vega--: ok what are you running?
[11:35] <vega--> KillerOrca: 7.10
[11:35] <RoadHazard> DaveTarmac: are you putting in the port such as xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:5900?
[11:35] <KillerOrca> vega--: server?
[11:35] <magnetron> jimcooncat: yes, konqueror or midori will do the job
[11:35] <vega--> KillerOrca: no desktop
[11:36] <jimcooncat> billybongo: not being a Mac user, I can only guess
[11:36] <KillerOrca> vega--: ok these are command line for server, but they should work
[11:36] <magnetron> DaveTarmac: why use xtightvncviewer? use vinaegre instead
[11:36] <jimcooncat> thanks magnetron
[11:36] <KillerOrca> vega--: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading , scroll down
[11:36] <billybongo> jimcooncat: that's like saying "How will my site look on windows, or on ubuntu?"
[11:36] <magnetron> DaveTarmac: applications menu > internet > remote desktop viewer
[11:36] <billybongo> it depends entirely on the browser
[11:37] <magnetron> billybongo: we're here to help out, not to point and laugh at them.
[11:37] <RoadHazard> DaveTarmac: are you serving vnc at the mac end or ubuntu?
[11:37] <jimcooncat> billybongo: whatever the default browser is that comes with a new mac, example how will my site look on windows would mean IE.
[11:37] <billybongo> magnetron: you've clearly not been on #debian
[11:37] <magnetron> billybongo: this isn't debian
[11:38] <RoadHazard> theyre mean
[11:38] <vega--> KillerOrca: you mean "sudo aptitude install update-manager-core
[11:38] <DaveTarmac> RoadHazard: I'm trying to VNC from ubuntu to the Mac
[11:38] <billybongo> jimcooncat: in that case you could get safari for windows and try running it with wine
[11:38] <vega--> KillerOrca: and do-release-upgrade, doesn't work..
[11:38] <U-G-G> KillerOrca: i cannot dl it to /opt folder, it says "Cannot write to `firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz' (Permission denied)." and i'm login as root
[11:38] <billybongo> jimcooncat: a lot of mac users use firefox these days
[11:38] <KillerOrca> vega--: I used those instructions myself, are you using sudo?
[11:38] <vega--> KillerOrca: yes
[11:38] <RoadHazard> and are you putting the port number in the vnc ip box?
[11:38] <KillerOrca> U-G-G: for visual apps you need gksudo
[11:39] <vega--> KillerOrca: basically tried all the official stuff..
[11:39] <KillerOrca> vega--: what does it say?
[11:39] <soundray> jimcooncat: safari uses WebKit, which is derived from KHTML. Browsers that render using the same engine are konqueror and epiphany (new versions of the latter)
[11:39] <vega--> KillerOrca: "no new releases found"
[11:39] <jimcooncat> thanks billybongo, I'm trying to set up a machine that will show how a website will look with all popular renderings.
[11:39] <magnetron> soundray: epiphany-webkit is yet to be included in ubuntu
[11:40] <DaveTarmac> magnetron: I'll have a look at Vinaigre tonight
[11:40] <soundray> magnetron: oh, thanks
[11:40] <KillerOrca> vega--: well I will check my command history real fast
[11:40] <J-a-k-e> does anyone know how i wouild go about fixing my installation of grub I've tried re-installing grub several times off the hardy 8.04 disk tho it's only a temporary fix
[11:40] <jimcooncat> soundray: yes, I was hoping to use epiphany for both gecko and webkit
[11:40] <Anton1234> HI. I nedd help with iptables. I want to monitor network traffic (to detect malwares on a Windows computer) and I want to use a Linux box with Wireshark between that computer and the modem. So I need to configure pass-all rules (tcp, udp, icmp, etc.) that would simply forward all (and really all) the traffic form eth1 (connected to win.box) to eth0 (connected to the modem) and vice versa. Could anybody tell me how to do it? I need only th
[11:40] <Anton1234> e iptables command. Everything else is already done. Thanks.
[11:40] <DaveTarmac> RoadHazard: I haven't added an ports to the IP box
[11:41] <RoadHazard> ok when you type in the mac's ip, put in xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxx:5900
[11:41] <KillerOrca> vega--: what happens when you so a regular sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade?
[11:41] <vega--> KillerOrca: nothing, it's a fully upgraded gutsy
[11:42] <DaveTarmac> RoadHazard: Thanks for the advice - I'll give it a try tonight (not at the machine at the moment)
[11:42] <soundray> vega--: which version of update-manager do you have?
[11:42] <vega--> i've also gone through a lot of similiar but not quite from www.ubuntuforums.org .. next is reinstall
[11:42] <cew_liverpudlian>  cew_liverpudlian
[11:42] <RoadHazard> DaveTarmac: itll probably live on 5900 or 5901
[11:43] <SnOke> hi
[11:43] <vega--> soundray: 1:0.81.3 (newest gutsy)
[11:43] <vega--> update-manager-core is also installed, as is ubuntu-desktop
[11:43] <SnOke> how install red5 on ubuntu server 7.04?
[11:44] <vega--> SnOke: what IS red5?
[11:44] <akonkwa> !xubuntu
[11:44] <SnOke> is a server for streaming
[11:44] <KillerOrca> vega--: well I am stumped, you know how to use sudo, and your system is updated so there is no reason those commands should not work
[11:44] <jimcooncat> is there a window manager or applet that uses a tab interface instead of a "window list"?
[11:44] <RoadHazard> SnOke: got a .deb for it?
[11:44] <SnOke> alternative to flash media server
[11:44] <DaveTarmac> Also - and I've been looking around the web for this - but does anyone else's browser crash when Flash is used? I've tried updating to the Flash 10 beta, but no joy. I've tried disabling compositing and still crashes
[11:45] <mudd`Hossam> anyone here using kolab? im thinking of jumping in feet first with this thing
[11:45] <vega--> SnOke: probably according to it's instructions because it doesn't seem to be in ubuntu repositories..
[11:45] <RoadHazard> hossam: might wanna look at egroupware too
[11:45] <vega--> KillerOrca: me too, i'll just probably go for editing sources.list manually to hardy then dist-upgrade even though it's not recommended
[11:45] <vega--> KillerOrca: if that fails then just reinstall, /home is on separate partition anyway
[11:45] <mudd`Hossam> RoadHazard: will do, ive got a horde , imap, postix, sasl set up already
[11:45] <SnOke> RoadHazard yes, in: http://dl.fancycode.com/red5/0.6.3/debian/red5_0.6.3-1_all.deb
[11:46] <mudd`Hossam> RoadHazard: all id need then was kolab and ldap
[11:46] <KillerOrca> vega--: step ahead of me there, my next install will be putting home alone
[11:46] <RoadHazard> mudd`Hossam: cool deal, just an idea
[11:46] <mudd`Hossam> RoadHazard: ill check it out
[11:47] <vega--> KillerOrca: ok, thanks anyways
[11:47] <RoadHazard> vega--: I wouldnt do the sources.list/dist-upgrade thing, it borked me
[11:48] <KillerOrca> vega--: you could upgrade from cd
[11:48] <mudd`Hossam> RoadHazard: which would you prefer horde or egroupware?
[11:48] <jimcooncat> mudd`Hossam: you might want to use virtualbox or a separate machine for testing, I've made quite a mess trying new mail servers
[11:48] <billybongo> jimcooncat: your problem is going to be IE7, unless you run XP on qemu or vmware
[11:48] <mudd`Hossam> jimcooncat: definitely
[11:48] <RoadHazard> I like egroupware, but thats just me
[11:48] <sCOTTo> hey guys - can anyone suggest a linux package for mapping? I need to map out what I need in a software package that will be designed in php...
[11:49] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: what egroupware like?
[11:49] <mudd`Hossam> RoadHazard: ill check out the demo and whatnot thanks!
[11:49] <vega--> KillerOrca: true, have to think about it..
[11:49] <mudd`Hossam> http://www.egroupware.org/screenshots
[11:49] <RoadHazard> mudd`Hossam: its free, no demo
[11:49] <jimcooncat> billybongo: yes, I know that's going to be tough. I was hoping there was an ie4linux for it
[11:49] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: does it setup on mysqo ?
[11:49] <RoadHazard> yuppers
[11:49] <billybongo> jimcooncat: very unreliable in my experience
[11:49] <vega--> RoadHazard: perhaps, but then there's still the reinstall option left.. it's a secondary computer anyway
[11:49] <mudd`Hossam> RoadHazard: i mean the interactive demo
[11:49] <RoadHazard> oh, I dunno, never used the demo
[11:49] <billybongo> jimcooncat: it sounds like you're in a similar field to me - I ended up getting XP installed in a virtual machine
[11:50] <billybongo> it's just too reliable otherwise
[11:50] <billybongo> but at least it doesn't need anything else and because it's only ever started for IE it never goes wrong
[11:50] <RoadHazard> the real deal uses mysql or pgsql
[11:50] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: can you give me a run down of what it DOES do well and doent do etc?
[11:51] <BigRed> Trying to install ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso on a HP Pavillion Dv8000 series notebook (can get exact model # if you need it)....I get the black screen/blinking cursor no matter what options I choose. If I do remove the quiet option it hangs after this line.....[ 38.425053] ACPI: EC: non-query interrupt received, switching to interrupt mode
[11:51] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: i need to setup something like sugarcrm - but to customise it to what I am doing - I need to manage workflow of web design - let me clients know when each step is complete etc...
[11:51] <jimcooncat> billybongo: yeah, unfortunately I want to use this on a remote Xen host, which I can't further virtualize.
[11:51] <RoadHazard> calendaring is good, webmail works with pop or imap
[11:51] <BigRed> Ive tried the "remove the battery and disconnect AC power and then boot with just battery" as suugest here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/191137
[11:51] <KillerOrca> BigRed: have you checked the cd for defects?
[11:52] <BigRed> when I do that it gives me the same black screen blinking cursor
[11:52] <RoadHazard> www.egroupware.org would explain it better than I can
[11:52] <KillerOrca> BigRed: any other systems you could test the cd on?
[11:52] <BigRed> ive done md5 checks and ive tried installs of studio, server, "ultimate ubuntu" as well as downloaded from multiple mirrors
[11:52] <sCOTTo> thanks ill go check it out :) it MIGHT do what i need :)
[11:52] <sCOTTo> bbs
[11:52] <BigRed> all burnt at 1x
[11:53] <RoadHazard> and it is in the repos
[11:53] <sCOTTo> yup yup
[11:53] <BigRed> yeah I can try it on this machine
[11:53] <BigRed> be back in a few
[11:53] <KillerOrca> BigRed: but no tests on other machines?
[11:53] <BigRed> correct
[11:53] <jimcooncat> looks like ie4linux can use the ie7 rendering engine, I'll give that a shot
[11:54] <KillerOrca> BigRed: you don't have to burn at the slowest speed
[11:54] <BigRed> I did it just to be safe
[11:54] <jimcooncat> ugh, cookies don't work
[11:54] <BigRed> im pretty close to giving up on ubuntu for this laptop
[11:54] <KillerOrca> BigRed: yeah, I did that too, burn at about half
[11:54] <BigRed> been at it for around 10 hours
[11:55] <Nyad> Hi. i have ubuntu installed on a partition. I want to know what will happen if I backup my system onto another HD and then format this partition and then change the partition size and then put ubuntu back onto that partition with the same name. note: my grub is on the partition that I want to do this with
[11:55] <wildfire_> anybody from mindanao
[11:55] <wildfire_> anybody from mindanao
[11:55] <KillerOrca> BigRed: it doesn't always work, have to check the hardware database
[11:55] <jimcooncat> BigRed: you could try installing with the mini.iso, it worked well for my gf laptop
[11:56] <RoadHazard> nyad rsync might be your winner there
[11:56] <Millow> Hello Iäm having trouble with my Ubuntu 8-04 VPS, I keep getting this error, cannot allocate memory
[11:56] <Nyad> !rsync
[11:56] <RoadHazard> millow could you paste the error?
[11:57] <Millow> RoadHazard: kk from the apache2 log
[11:57] <KillerOrca> BigRed: could also not meet the system requirementss
[11:57] <jimcooncat> Nyad, you might want to try just resizing the partition after you backup, it would save you a lot of work if it works
[11:57] <BigRed> its a newer laptop
[11:58] <BigRed> where is the hardware database?
[11:58] <KillerOrca> BigRed: well that's eliminated at least
[11:58] <generic> hi all when ever i reboot my ubuntu 8.04 machine my resolv.conf files removes and i have to create it every time
[11:58] <generic> any idea
[11:58] <generic> ?
[11:59] <Nyad> say the partition name is sda1 and i format to create sda2, then i put my system back onto sda1 will it all work?
[11:59] <DistroJockey> BigRed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:59] <RoadHazard> hyad might get some grub issues there
[11:59] <wzt> hello every one
[11:59] <wzt> hello every one
[12:00] <wzt> is anybody here?
[12:00] <KillerOrca> BigRed: I know there is one, but I'm not sure precisely, I'm just googling now
[12:00] <DistroJockey> hi| wzt
[12:00] <DistroJockey> oops
[12:00] <wzt> hi
[12:00] <wzt> first use  this
[12:00] <KillerOrca> wzt: what you need?
[12:01] <jimcooncat> wzt, there are 1316 users here, not everyone will say hi
[12:01] <wzt> sorry  first use this  so say hello
[12:02] <maaike> hi everyone! Can someone help me? I upgraded from Gutsy Gibbon to Hardy Heron a couple of days ago but I am encountering some problems... For example: I can't update anymore
[12:02] <DistroJockey> wzt: best to just ask a question or provide an answer here :)
[12:03] <wzt> oh  i know
[12:03] <KillerOrca> maaike: are three packages being held back?
[12:03] <DistroJockey> wzt: but, welcome :)
[12:03] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: how do you find egroupware to customise?
[12:03] <wzt> thank you
[12:04] <dpreacher> how do i set a certain user to be able to login to a ubuntu hardy machine running proftpd?
[12:04] <maaike> KillerOrca: well, if I just click on 'update', it starts to download packages and then keeps hanging in this downloading phase, I have had it on for days and nothing is happening and it is only supposed to download 4.3MB
[12:04] <dpreacher> from command line...
[12:04] <RoadHazard> if you write php you'll get along just fine, its really modular
[12:04] <dpreacher> what changes to proftpd.conf should be done
[12:04] <KillerOrca> maaike: what are the packages that are supposed to be updating?
[12:04] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: if i dont :( ?
[12:04] <RoadHazard> dpreacher edit proftpd.conf and jail the users in their home directories
[12:05] <BigRed> ok gonna try the cd in this pc to see what happens
[12:05] <BigRed> brb
[12:05] <dpreacher> RoadHazard . a little more digestable explanation. please
[12:05] <RoadHazard> scotto: you cant customize it as much but theres like 30 modules you can mix and match, and a bunch of stuff on sourceforge
[12:05] <dpreacher> i need to allow anon login
[12:05] <RoadHazard> without any programming experience
[12:05] <sCOTTo> ok well i might have to freelance someone to help me :)
[12:06] <clusty> hey
[12:06] <Nyad> DistroJockey, you said I may run into some grub issues, but will there be a problem if I just reinstall grub?
[12:06] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: thanks heaps for your help d00d :)
[12:06] <infoclog> i installed ubuntu on my computer and then on another partition I installed Knoppix on the root parition.
[12:06] <RoadHazard> if you reinstall grub it should fix the issues I envisioned
[12:06] <maaike> KillerOrca: the packages to be updated are: libgnutls13, openssl-blacklist, these are the most important ones
[12:06] <RoadHazard> sCOTTo: quite welcome
[12:06] <clusty> i am having trouble with my bluetooth mouse: when I do a "sudo hidd --search" i get a : "Searching ...
[12:06] <clusty> 	Connecting to device 00:12:5A:6A:57:C8
[12:06] <clusty> Can't create HID interrupt channel: Connection refused"
[12:06] <clusty> clues?
[12:06] <sCOTTo> :)
[12:06] <Vasily> hi, I've installed some program and it has some 'link' so that when I type 'program' (like 'ls'), it runs. now I've removed the program where that link was pointing to, and I want it to point somewhere else, how can I do that?
[12:07] <infoclog> I wanted to bring the knoppix menu also on the grub list. How can I do it?
[12:07] <DistroJockey> Nyad: I did? umm, if you had grub and are redoing a non working one, I guess it can't get any worse
[12:07] <KillerOrca> maaike: ok we'll try this: open up a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[12:08] <Nyad> DistroJockey, tnx, you wrote hyad so I thought it was a typo
[12:08] <maaike> KillerOrca: I am trying that right now, I'll let you know when it is finished
[12:08] <tcpdumpgod> GENIUS in the house.
[12:08] <dpreacher> in the conf file only the username is specified but when i try to login as that user the server says that the password is incorrect. do i need to restart the server after editing the conf...how do i do that?
[12:08]  * tcpdumpgod is using Windows 200 SP4!!! :O
[12:09] <Millow> RoadHazard:
[12:09] <Millow> [Fri May 23 11:07:30 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) Phusion_Passenger/1.1.0 configured -- resuming normal operations
[12:09] <Millow> Rails Error: Unable to access log file. Please ensure that /var/rails/kneg/releases/20080523095350/log/production.log exists and is chmod 0666. The log level has been raised to WARN and the output directed to STDERR until the problem is fixed.
[12:09] <Millow> ** ultrasphinx: configuration file not found for "production" environment
[12:09] <Millow> ** ultrasphinx: please run 'rake ultrasphinx:configure'
[12:09] <FloodBot1> Millow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <Millow> *** Exception Errno::ENOMEM in Passenger::ApplicationSpawner (Cannot allocate memory - fork(2)) (process 9279):
[12:09] <infoclog> i installed ubuntu on my computer and then on another partition I installed Knoppix on the root parition.I wanted to bring the knoppix menu also on the grub list. How can I do it?
[12:09] <RoadHazard> dpreacher: yes, you must execute sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
[12:09] <maaike> KillerOrca: it finished and seemed to work :)
[12:09] <maaike> KillerOrca: why did it not work through the interface?
[12:09] <RoadHazard> dpreacher: when you edit proftpd.conf
[12:10] <Millow> RoadHazard: any idea?
[12:10] <dpreacher> it worked
[12:10] <dpreacher> any idea about how to turn anon login on?
[12:10] <KillerOrca> maaike: someone else told me the fix, so I don't know the root cause :/
[12:10] <DistroJockey> Nyad: Don't recall doing that either. Sorry
[12:11] <KillerOrca> maaike: you should be able to update normally now, and I would
[12:11] <Nyad> was on topic either way, and you helped me, so thanks :)
[12:11] <anormallu> http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/images/3ubuntu.jpg
[12:12] <RoadHazard> Millow: sorry, I'm at a loss on that one
[12:12] <maaike> KillerOrca: I do have another problem, when I startup ubuntu, a crash report is detected, when I click on it, it disappears so I can't read the report, but it seems that sometimes I lose control of my mouse and keyboard because of it
[12:12] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: i just use synaptics to install egroupware - where can i find it now LOL
[12:12] <KillerOrca> maaike: don't use a gui, but the report should be logged somewhere
[12:13] <maaike> KillerOrca: do you know where?
[12:13] <RoadHazard> sCOTTo: yes, you'll need to be installing it on a lamp server or have the resources of a lamp server available
[12:13] <maaike> KillerOrca: never mind! found it
[12:13] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: so if i upload it to my bigass cPanel account online i can install it there ?
[12:13] <maaike> KillerOrca: thanks for all your help by the way :)
[12:14] <KillerOrca> maaike: type out the link for the logs please :P
[12:14] <RoadHazard> if they have php
[12:14] <maaike> KillerOrca: you can find them in /var/crash
[12:15] <justprogramming8> hello i installed ubuntu in my laptop and i want to remove it and install windows but when i put cd of windows to start formatting massage appeared  no hard disk in my laptop
[12:15] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: i can install joomla and most other apps there... soo maybe...
[12:15] <KillerOrca> justprogramming8: ok did you overwrite the whole hD?
[12:15] <RoadHazard> yes, joomla has much the same requirements
[12:16] <KillerOrca> maaike: glad you found it, cause the link I had didn't have that path :P
[12:16] <RoadHazard> sCOTTo: so goto synaptic, hit search and put in egroupware
[12:16] <maaike> KillerOrca: the only problem is that I am not allowed to open it! even as root!
[12:16] <billybongo> what do people like so much about egroupware?
[12:16] <KillerOrca> maaike: even with gksudo?
[12:16] <billybongo> I find it a bit clunky
[12:16] <KillerOrca> maaike: or just sudo?
[12:17] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: i installed it but cant find it now :(
[12:17] <RoadHazard> its reliable, unlike exchange
[12:17] <billybongo> usable but clunky
[12:17] <billybongo> RoadHazard: haven't you tried something like Zimbra?
[12:17] <RoadHazard> sCOTTo: its in /usr/share/egroupware
[12:17] <justprogramming8> ah
[12:17] <sCOTTo> ok thanks
[12:17] <RoadHazard> I tried a few things, found egroupware to my liking
[12:17] <justprogramming8> yes ubuntu overwrite the whole hd
[12:18] <billybongo> RoadHazard: but did you try zimbra?
[12:18] <RoadHazard> billybongo: cant say I have
[12:18] <billybongo> ahh ok
[12:18] <BigRed> Trying to install ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso on a HP Pavillion Dv8000 series notebook (can get exact model # if you need it)....I get the black screen/blinking cursor no matter what options I choose. If I do remove the quiet option it hangs after this line.....[ 38.425053] ACPI: EC: non-query interrupt received, switching to interrupt mode. Ive tried the "remove the battery and disconnect AC power and then boot with just battery" as suug
[12:18] <sCOTTo> billybongo: whats it like ?
[12:18] <billybongo> couldn't work out why someone would try it and then use egroupware :)
[12:18] <billybongo> zimbra is great
[12:18] <maaike> KillerOrca: yep :) I got to open it, it has to do with openssl, which we just updated, so chances are that things will work fine next time I restart my laptop
[12:18] <BigRed> the cd works fine on another pc
[12:18] <rsk> BigRed: tried disabling apci ?
[12:18] <billybongo> you have to go along with its funny ways, but we have a couple of servers running it
[12:19] <billybongo> essentially it is exchange without having exchange
[12:19] <maaike> KillerOrca: thanks for all your help, hope to talk to you again some time! :)
[12:19] <BigRed> no but ill google the directions and try right now
[12:19] <BigRed> brb
[12:19] <KillerOrca> dammit does anyone know how to scroll up in irssi?
[12:19] <KillerOrca> maaike: np
[12:19] <billybongo> KillerOrca: try ctrl-pgup
[12:19] <RoadHazard> KillerOrca: shift page up?
[12:19] <sCOTTo> billybongo: what exactly does it do... im looking for something specific...
[12:19] <KillerOrca> no to both
[12:19] <billybongo> yeah, or that maybe
[12:20] <KillerOrca> just move the putty scroller
[12:20] <billybongo> sCOTTo: what are you looking for?
[12:20] <billybongo> zimbra 5 does mail, calendar, contacts, tasks, IM, documents, briefcase
[12:20] <justprogramming8> any one help me
[12:20] <justprogramming8> ???
[12:20] <billybongo> it provides its own mta (postfix) and is its own imap/pop3
[12:20] <KillerOrca> whoever is asking about the windows install that is a windowws issue for not seeing the hd
[12:21] <billybongo> justprogramming8: with what?
[12:21] <KillerOrca> billybongo: I believe he is trying to re-install windows
[12:21] <jatt> !offtopic
[12:21] <justprogramming8> i installed ubuntu in my laptop and i want to remove it and install windows but when i put cd of windows to start formatting massage appeared  no hard disk in my laptop
[12:21] <BigRed> rsk
[12:21] <jatt> windows is offtopic in this channel
[12:21] <KillerOrca> jatt: and that is why he is here
[12:22] <rsk> BigRed
[12:22] <BigRed> that got me the furthest
[12:22] <rsk> ok =)
[12:22] <BigRed> it froze up on the splash screen though
[12:22] <rsk> hm...
[12:22] <BigRed> going to try it again in verbose mode see if its freezing on the same step
[12:22] <sCOTTo> billybongo: ok - i run an it bus in Syd Australia. I do onsite stuff, setup servers, setup websites, repair problems of all sorts. I need a setup that I can manage my customers in, create custom workflows and specify what servers a customer is using and NOT using... create a workflow tick off list for things to be done on certain job types - and have it email the people involved letting them know as each item is ticked off... thats a start
[12:22] <sCOTTo>  - i need to manage workflow - i need to be able to work on 20 - 50 websites per week and manage my sub contractors through the program so i can see what going in time and whats not...
[12:22] <sCOTTo> billybongo: ceal enough :D
[12:23] <sCOTTo> clear enough sorry
[12:23] <RoadHazard> sCOTTo: ohhh, you might wanna look at ispconfig
[12:23] <KillerOrca> justprogramming8: I think google will be your best bet
[12:23] <sCOTTo> really?
[12:23] <billybongo> sCOTTo: sounds like you need something more bespoke, perhaps built on something like zope/plone
[12:23] <rsk> BigRed: aparently it's working in gutsy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HPDV8000?highlight=(Dv8000)
[12:23] <RoadHazard> ya
[12:23] <sCOTTo> ok guys... ur confusing the #$% outta me now :)
[12:23] <sCOTTo> \which one?
[12:23] <harmzii> BigRed did u find the solution im curious now
[12:24] <billybongo> sCOTTo: describe what a "workflow" does
[12:24] <BigRed> I think im getting closer harmzii
[12:24] <RoadHazard> sCOTTo: for what you just said, I believe ispconfig will work, its not in the repos, but it compiles easy enough
[12:24] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: will it run on AMP ?
[12:24] <BigRed> ~[ rsk ]~ yeah alot of the people having the issue I am were fine in gutsy
[12:24] <KrimZon> justprogramming8: what version of windows, what type of hard disk?
[12:24] <RoadHazard> yup
[12:24] <BigRed> sorry for the colors
[12:24] <KillerOrca> omfg apparently just pgup pgdn work
[12:24] <RoadHazard> sCOTTo: lamp I know it works, wamp, dunno
[12:24] <billybongo> sCOTTo: what you're describing doesn't sound like anything that egroupware does
[12:25] <RoadHazard> billybongo: I was mistaken about his needs
[12:25] <sCOTTo> billybongo: just a step by step of what is going to happen from teh FIRST call into my company to the end result...
[12:25] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: whats the difference between wamp and lamp?
[12:25] <comodo> can somone help me with a totem problem
[12:25] <RoadHazard> winders and linux
[12:25] <sCOTTo> billybongo: then i will un install it :)
[12:25]  * sCOTTo uses LINUX ONLY.
[12:26] <jatt> GNU/Linux
[12:26]  * sCOTTo hates windows :)
[12:26] <comodo> i have the youtube plugin installed for totem but when i try to play a youtube video it says you do not have the right codecs
[12:26] <billybongo> sCOTTo: so we're talking about management of people and resources to fit in with a predifined plan?
[12:26] <RoadHazard> sCOTTo: or management of the users sites?
[12:27] <billybongo> yes, sCOTTo how much does this actually have to do to other sites?
[12:27] <KillerOrca> comodo: someone had that problem earlier, have you searced the forums?
[12:27] <comodo> no
[12:28] <comodo> well i read up on totems website
[12:28] <sCOTTo> billybongo: yeah pretty much... i got WAY too much work to handle, and even if i just have me i still need to manage my work better... but i need to have dev people log in to the thing to check what work they have to do, tick off work they have done and have the program EMAIL my / clients to let us know work is complete :)
[12:28] <sCOTTo> no it doesnt REALLY have to have anything to do with any other sites... just sit in the backend of mine :)
[12:28] <RoadHazard> task management and communications in egroupware, and site management in ispconfig
[12:28] <KillerOrca> comodo: this maybe http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/04/04/play-youtube-videos-from-the-totem-movie-player/
[12:29] <billybongo> sCOTTo: are you happy to do a bit of hacking yourself?
[12:30] <infoclog> can i install a distro in rootparition and still see it on the bootloader list?
[12:30] <hypn0> will there be updates of pidgin and firefox in ubuntu repos?
[12:30] <gestahlt> Hi
[12:30] <gestahlt> Can someone help me setting up pxe boot ssh-servers?
[12:30] <sCOTTo> billybongo: i try not to because im so stupid (without my ADHD pills) but im willing to have a go and work on something if it has directions - i also have a guy who is keen tolearn how to make something like this work and maybe even write plugins for joomla sites :)
[12:30] <gestahlt> The systems works fine booting from pxe
[12:30] <gestahlt> and from NFS
[12:30] <gestahlt> but i cant get ssh-server installed
[12:31] <gestahlt> release is hardy
[12:31] <KillerOrca> gestahlt: so you are trying to ssh to your ubuntu box
[12:31] <gestahlt> and on pxe / nfs as well
[12:31] <gestahlt> no, i try to ssh the remote systems
[12:31] <billybongo> sCOTTo: Zope is very workflow oriented
[12:31] <jrib> gestahlt: the package is openssh-server, don't know anything about pxe though
[12:31] <sCOTTo> what IS zope... sounds like dope :)
[12:31] <KillerOrca> gestahlt: so you are trying to ssh from ubuntu elsewhere?
[12:31] <sCOTTo> LOL
[12:31] <gestahlt> I tried to install it with aptitude / apt-get.. it seems to install, but it doesnt work
[12:31] <billybongo> sCOTTo: you could feasibly write a "job" or "customer" object and then change it's state to reflect what happens
[12:31] <billybongo> sCOTTo:
[12:31] <gestahlt> killerorca: yes
[12:31] <billybongo> zope is an application server based on python
[12:31] <sCOTTo> billybongo: sounds a bit out of my depth
[12:32] <gestahlt> KillerOrca: I remoteboot the other systems from my main install
[12:32] <RoadHazard> gestahlt nmap the ip address of the ssh server and see if 22 is open?
[12:32] <gestahlt> KillerOrca: Which works fine
[12:32] <sCOTTo> billybongo: does it setup on apache/mysql?
[12:32] <gestahlt> Roadhazard: 22 isnt open. And neither is SSH running
[12:32] <billybongo> sCOTTo: no it lives on its own space, a bit like a jvm
[12:32] <gaokai> how to support UNICODE?
[12:32] <KillerOrca> gestahlt: alright well is it just that ssh isn't installed on ubuntu or on the other systems?
[12:32] <billybongo> sCOTTo:  there is an erp framework for it called ERP5
[12:32] <RoadHazard> gestahlt: got physical access to the servers?
[12:33] <sCOTTo> billybongo: its a bit hard because i needit to sit in the backend of my website...
[12:33] <gestahlt> Roadhazard: I dont know what i do wrong. I installed openssh-server chrooted in my pxe boot dir
[12:33] <MrMist> I've got a big big problem.. some of the buttons on my "numeric keypad" restarts X completely, like the "1 (/ end)"-key. How do I remap these keys??
[12:33] <gestahlt> RoadHazard: Yes
[12:33] <Nazrax> My Hardy Alternate install keeps stopping at 6% during "Select and install packages" - anyone have any idea why?
[12:33] <Sarah> can i import fonts from windows and use them in linux? i have a bunch that came with ms office, some i like to use like latha and some others i cant remember the names of
[12:33] <RoadHazard> if 22 aint open the thing aint running
[12:33] <jrib> !fonts > Sarah (read the private message from ubottu)
[12:33] <sCOTTo> billybongo: may i pm you ? my eyes are getting sore in here :(
[12:34] <Sarah> ok thanks jrib
[12:34] <billybongo> sCOTTo: no worries
[12:34] <KillerOrca> jrib: you seem to know the irc, how would I read a pm?
[12:34] <gestahlt> Roadhazrad: That is exactly my problem. SSH Server wont run
[12:34] <gestahlt> Roadhazard: i have no idea why
[12:34] <Riot777> does anybody know a command for "system log viewer" from the gnome menu ?
[12:35] <KillerOrca> gestahlt: it just doesn't run on ubuntu?
[12:35] <gestahlt> roadhazard: It works fine on the server, but it doesnt work in the Pxe boot enviroment (on the clients which i want to control via ssh)
[12:35] <jrib> KillerOrca: in irssi? alt-# where # is the number of the buffer (or letter if you get that high)
[12:35] <gestahlt> killerorca: nope, it doesnt run on debian etch either
[12:35] <thesaint4444> hi guys, does anyone use capistrano? for some reason I am having problems connecting to my remote host via ssh....
[12:36] <RoadHazard> gestahlt: firewall?
[12:36] <KillerOrca> gestahlt: ohh your keys might be blacklisted
[12:36] <RoadHazard> nah, 22 would still nmap with bad keys
[12:36] <KillerOrca> gestahlt: have you done a package upgrade?
[12:37] <gestahlt> killerorca: Yes, i did
[12:37] <Wessman> find NCIS
[12:38] <RoadHazard> any mono users? I cant make it work
[12:39] <KillerOrca> gestahlt: so when you use top ssh isn't in the list on any of the machines?
[12:39] <BigRed> got it to boot using noacpi and the other "no" option below that
[12:39] <KebabBob> Is it possible to have both firefox2 and 3 installed? (Or: How do I downgrade to firefox2?)
[12:39] <BigRed> what is acpi and do I need it for my laptop to run at a decent speed?
[12:40] <jrib> KebabBob: yes, they are both packaged
[12:40] <DracoZA> How can I give myself full system access without constantly having to issue passwords for synaptic, gnome etc ?
[12:40] <RoadHazard> speed? not really, battery efficiency, I'd recommend it
[12:40] <harmzii> advanced configuration and power interface
[12:40] <harmzii> cpu scaling and the like
[12:40] <KebabBob> jrib: Won't I get conflicts having both? Config files and such?
[12:40] <RoadHazard> DracoZA: probably wouldnt wanna do that
[12:40] <BigRed> oh sweet
[12:40] <BigRed> its a desktop replacement laptop
[12:40] <BigRed> it never gets used without ac power ever
[12:41] <DracoZA> RoadHazard, I do, trust me :)
[12:41] <soundray> vega--: was away for a while -- have you found a solution?
[12:41] <jrib> DracoZA: why are you always entering passwords?  what is it that you are doing so often that requires superuser privileges?
[12:41] <KillerOrca> DracoZA: you could do sudo su, but it is not advised
[12:41] <soundray> KillerOrca: sudo -i (sane environment)
[12:41] <jrib> KebabBob: not that I know of.  You can always create separate profiles if you want to be sure
[12:42] <DracoZA> jrib, one huge pain is constantly having to run gksudo nautilus because gnome wont let me modify files/folders that have been copied to my machine
[12:42] <jrib> DracoZA: what files exactly?  Why are you copying them as root?
[12:43] <DracoZA> jrib, being copied to me via the network
[12:43] <jrib> DracoZA: surely there is a way to copy them as your user
[12:44] <DracoZA> jrib, I cant find one hence the pain
[12:44] <jrib> DracoZA: using samba?
[12:45] <DracoZA> jrib, just plain gnome copy
[12:45] <maaike> Hi everyone, I was just here and KillerOrca was kind enough to help me, but I have a few other problems :(. I updated to Hardy Heron a couple of days ago, and when I now try to open the update manager or the synaptic package manager, it doesn't ask me to provide the root password but just doesn't let me open these programs anymore, is there a solution to this? I do not want to log in as root all the time
[12:45] <jrib> DracoZA: how are you accessing the other files on the network?
[12:45] <gestahlt> AH
[12:45] <gestahlt> I tried to reinstall the open ssh server
[12:45] <gestahlt> i get this: invoke-rc.d: initscript ssh, action "restart" failed.
[12:45] <DracoZA> jrib, the files are being copied to my machine by other users
[12:45] <gestahlt> but that is okay so far
[12:45] <gestahlt> since i do it chrooted
[12:47] <maaike>  Hi everyone, I was just here and KillerOrca was kind enough to help me, but I have a few other problems :(. I updated to Hardy Heron a couple of days ago, and when I now try to open the update manager or the synaptic package manager, it doesn't ask me to provide the root password but just doesn't let me open these programs anymore, is there a solution to this? I do not want to log in as root all the time
[12:47] <recon69> my EDIMAX 7128g wireless card not working, any suggestions -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14072/
[12:47] <anirudh0> maaike: its possible to use visudo to allow superuser proviledges without needing a password
[12:47] <anirudh0> maaike: for you particular username _only_
[12:48] <Pici> maaike: Does it giev you an error?
[12:48] <RoadHazard> can you add yourself to the root group?
[12:48] <mdh76> maaike, does normal console sudo whinge about hostnames?
[12:48] <maaike> Pici: no, no error, nothing opens and that's it
[12:48] <jrib> DracoZA: the real solution is to setup permissions properly.  Editing things as root all the time doesn't really make sense
[12:48] <anirudh0> maaike: but I would'nt recommend it unless you are the only user on your system
[12:48] <soundray> maaike: have you looked at System-Administration-Authorizations?
[12:48] <Nazrax> My Hardy Alternate install keeps stopping at 6% during "Select and install packages" - anyone have any idea why?
[12:48] <maaike> anirudh0: I'll try that, and yes I am the only one using my laptop :)
[12:49] <DracoZA> jrib, agreed I will have to look that up
[12:49] <KillerOrca> Nazrax: maybe a broken cd?
[12:49] <anirudh0> maaike: run update-manager or "sudo synaptic" from the terminal
[12:49] <soundray> maaike: don't use visudo yet please -- see if configuring PolicyKit fixes your problem
[12:49] <Nazrax> I've used the CD's selfcheck, it says it's fine
[12:49] <anirudh0> maiike: so that you know what the error is about
[12:49] <soundray> anirudh0: please recommend gksudo for graphical programs
[12:49] <KillerOrca> Nazrax: then it may just be incompatible hardware
[12:49] <Nazrax> LiveCD works fine
[12:50] <rascal999> I'm trying to make a folder share, but I get this error 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
[12:50] <madyogi> Hi guys. I've searched all the enries to the Ubuntu Forums, and all the bug reports, but I can not find any solution to my Problem concerning Keyboard Layouts. All the bugs are filed as solved, but for me it appears that they are not
[12:50] <rascal999> how do I fix?
[12:50] <maaike> soundray: help me, where can I find PolicyKit (I am very new to ubuntu :)
[12:50] <soundray> maaike: have you looked at System-Administration-Authorizations?
[12:50] <DracoZA> jrib, see silly little permission issues like rascal999 just announced
[12:50] <KillerOrca> Nazrax: how long have you left it alone?
[12:50] <Millow> Can omseone help me with "Cannot allocate memory"-problems
[12:50] <RoadHazard> madyogi: is the user in the group permitted to access that folder?
[12:50] <maaike> soundray: I am looking at that right now :)
[12:51] <Nazrax> KillerOrca: It sits there for 20 minutes, then dies.
[12:51] <rascal999> DracoZA: I know its a permission issue
[12:51] <Millow> keep getting it all the time everywhere, even tho I have like 250mb free ram left
[12:51] <DracoZA> rascal999, its just such an annoying issue
[12:51] <madyogi> RoadHazard: which folder?
[12:51] <rascal999> but I want to be able to do it from GNOME, not in terminal
[12:51] <maaike> soundray: but what do I need to change there?
[12:51] <rascal999> they haven't fixed it?
[12:51] <gaokai> how to create a shared space between VMware Ubuntu and Host WINXP ?
[12:51] <Nazrax> KillerOrca: According to the logs, it installs libc, waits 20 minutes, then starts to setup "configure"
[12:51] <soundray> maaike: I'm new to PolicyKit myself, so I'd have to make it up as we go along
[12:51] <RoadHazard> madyogi: sorry I answered rascal999's question on your name
[12:51] <soundray> maaike: but maybe there is something obvious in there
[12:51] <bouma> does ubuntu support the dell all in one printer scanner
[12:52] <RoadHazard> bouma and which one would that be?
[12:52] <maaike> soundray: maybe 'Manage System Configuration'
[12:52] <rascal999> RoadHazard: its /home/<user>
[12:52] <madyogi> RoadHazard: np.
[12:52] <anirudh0> maaike: run apt from the terminal...that should tell you what the problem is about
[12:52] <recon69>  my EDIMAX 7128g wireless card not working, any suggestions -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14072/
[12:52] <KillerOrca> Nazrax: I know my install took forever, but that was on oldware
[12:52] <anirudh0> maiike: it might not be a permissions issue at all...
[12:52] <MeRodent> bouma; check lexmark as dell tend to repackage them.
[12:52] <bouma> RoadHazard: not completely sure, but im running ubuntu, lsusb ?
[12:52] <soundray> maaike: before you pursue this, could you tell me what a simple 'sudo ls' gives you in a terminal?
[12:52] <sCOTTo> RoadHazard: i looked at ispconfig - nah id stick to cPanel... it feels better :)
[12:52] <KillerOrca> Nazrax: did you try that wubi installer?
[12:53] <Nazrax> KillerOrca: Setup actually dies; the screen turns red and it tells me that it failed during the "Select and install packages" step.
[12:53] <Nazrax> KillerOrca: I don't have Windows on this machine.
[12:53] <bouma> MeRodent: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c313 Logitech, Inc.
[12:53] <maaike> soundray: oh sorry, I was looking at the wrong thing, I am looking at the policy kit now. But one question, if I am the only person using my laptop, can't I just set the rights to everything to me? or is that too dangerous
[12:53] <gestahlt> when i try to install openssh i get following error (in a chroot enviroment) invoke-rc.d: initscript ssh, action "stop" failed.
[12:53] <RoadHazard> should
[12:53] <gestahlt> uh replace stop with start
[12:53] <bouma> MeRodent: should i just google that string from lsusb ?
[12:54] <KillerOrca> Nazrax: what do you have?
[12:54] <soundray> maaike: it would be better to get to the default Ubuntu behaviour if you can achieve this
[12:54] <maaike> soundray: sudo ls gives me a big list of files
[12:54] <bouma> MeRodent: will that give me scanning too, or should i follow some other keywords, (? sane)
[12:54] <soundray> maaike: good
[12:54] <MeRodent> bouma, that looks like something other than the printer.
[12:54] <maaike> soundray: and some directories
[12:54] <soundray> maaike: when you launch 'gksudo synaptic' from there, does that work?
[12:54] <gestahlt> OK Nvm
[12:54] <BigRed> what is apic?
[12:54] <gestahlt> It works now
[12:54] <bouma> MeRodent: Bus 004 Device 002: ID 413c:5109 Dell Computer Corp.
[12:54] <gestahlt> whyever
[12:54] <BigRed> I had to disable that also
[12:55] <bouma> MeRodent: i unplugged the printer and this was the one that disapeared
[12:55] <maaike> soundray: yes that works
[12:55] <soundray> BigRed: advanced programmable interrupt controller. There is a Wikipedia article
[12:55] <madyogi> If I set up german and Ukrainian Layout, then at first everything works fine. After reboot though, the ukrainian Layout is scrapped and instead of normal characters I get unknown characters... It seems to happen always, when 2 or more Layouts are set. I tried it also with "German/German Dvorak" and the Issue was the same
[12:55] <BigRed> thanks
[12:55] <Nazrax> KillerOrca: Physically, it's a newer Dell. Right now, it has Gutsy with the root in one partition and home in LVM (done after the original install). I know I could upgrade, but this machine has already been upgraded a couple of times, and I really want a fresh start.
[12:55] <soundray> maaike: okay, I think that clarifies it -- it's PolicyKit preventing you from using it through the menus.
[12:56] <maaike> soundray: okay, how do I fix that?
[12:56] <soundray> maaike: through the Authorizations dialog that you already opened
[12:56] <bouma> RoadHazard: i want to scan a page and email it to my supervisor, so im thinking of rebooting to xp
[12:57] <maaike> soundray: can I just grant my user an authorization and that should work?
[12:57] <RoadHazard> did you install sane?
[12:57] <bouma> RoadHazard: yes i have sane
[12:57] <KillerOrca> Nazrax: what happens if youtry upgrading via the cd?
[12:57] <KillerOrca> gestahlt: what did you do to get it to work?
[12:57] <RoadHazard> have an app that "should" see the scanner?
[12:57] <bouma> RoadHazard: xsane
[12:57] <Nazrax> KillerOrca: Haven't tried any upgrade paths.
[12:58] <urlwolf> I'm using Opera as a mail client. I want to remove duplicates, and opera uses the standard mbox format. The problem is that it places ONE email per file.
[12:58] <anirudh0> maiike: adding this line "maiike ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL"  using  visudo might ne easier
[12:58] <zhyagao> hey there
[12:58] <soundray> maaike: you could -- but  have a look at how this dialog looks by default (URL coming)
[12:58] <urlwolf> Is there any way find duplicates when each mbox contains only one file?
[12:58] <xodiak> good morning. I have been trying to update my system with the latest batch of updates through the Update Manager. But the update app just appears to lock up. Sat there all night last night. Now after a restart I tried again it's locked up. Oh and I'm a newbie... :)
[12:58] <anirudh0> maaike: assuming your username is also maaike
[12:58] <zhyagao> anybody can help plz? imy keoboard doesn't work ...
[12:58] <bouma> RoadHazard: i dont get the preview, but i also have a tv card which could be confusing things
[12:58] <urlwolf> I have a perl script for dupes, but it assumes all mail is in a single mbox...
[12:58] <soundray> maaike: http://www.soundray.org/Screenshot-Authorizations.png
[12:58] <KillerOrca> xodiak: sudo apt-get dit-upgrade
[12:59] <KillerOrca> xodiak: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:59] <xodiak> KillerOrca: will try
[12:59] <RoadHazard> bouma: sorry, not alot of help
[12:59] <maaike> soundray: that's what my dialog looks like too
[12:59] <KillerOrca> xodiak: should be dist not dit
[12:59] <zhyagao> I use ubuntu 8.04 with fusion icon, but it suddenly wouldn't work as there's nothing out whatever i type by my keyboard. but it's ok when i switch to another user id
[12:59] <xodiak> okay
[12:59] <zhyagao> anybody can help me please ?
[12:59] <soundray> maaike: oh, nothing to fix then...
[13:00] <maaike> soundray: so I can't do anything to fix my problem? I always have to open it from the command line?
[13:00] <xodiak> KillerOrca: I probably should not run this while the Update Manager is running correct?
[13:00] <DracoZA> correct xodiak
[13:00] <anirudh0> maaike: the visudo method does'nt need to be used from the command line
[13:01] <soundray> maaike: no, you can certainly do what you were going to do, adding yourself explicitly in Manage System Configuration
[13:01] <KillerOrca> xodiak: yeah
[13:01] <maaike> soundray: thanks for all your help, I'll do that then. Thanks!!
[13:01] <xodiak> Is there a way to Force a Quit similar to "End Process" in windows task manager? So I don't have to restart
[13:02] <RoadHazard> xodiak: you can blow the xserver back to login
[13:02] <soundray> anirudh0: visudo should always be a last resort
[13:02] <gestahlt> YAY
[13:02] <gestahlt> Openssh works now
[13:02]  * gestahlt dances
[13:02] <RoadHazard> xodiac or system monitor
[13:02] <anirudh0> soundray: yes...but he was the only user on the system....
[13:02] <zhyagao> I use ubuntu 8.04 with fusion icon, but it suddenly wouldn't work as there's nothing out whatever i type by my keyboard. but it's ok when i switch to another user id. anybody can help me plz ?
[13:02] <tesseract> Weet iemand ook perongeluk hoe je volledige zinnen kan laten weer geven in Python?
[13:02] <gestahlt> How can i check for installed devices (harddrives) on the system?
[13:02] <soundray> anirudh0: she :)
[13:02] <gestahlt> in terminal
[13:02] <gestahlt> with output
[13:02] <RoadHazard> mount
[13:02] <KillerOrca> xodiak: can't you just cloes it?
[13:03] <gestahlt> Unmounted devices
[13:03] <gestahlt> i do not want the harddrives mounted
[13:03] <anirudh0> soundray: hmm ... vague :)
[13:03] <soundray> anirudh0: still, that might change
[13:03] <gestahlt> i only want to know if they are there
[13:03] <xodiak> KillerOrca: No, It acts like it's locked up. And will not close.
[13:03] <PriceChild> !nl | tesseract
[13:03] <TwinX> tesseract; #ubuntu-nl
[13:03] <JonathanElli1> I have a networking problem. I set my computer running Ubuntu 8.04 to have a fixed IP address <IP_ADDRESS>, subnet mask <IP_ADDRESS>. Now when I try to ping <IP_ADDRESS> (my router), I get the error "Network is unreachable". This also happens when I try the same thing on Ubuntu 7.10. Any ideas please?
[13:03] <soundray> anirudh0: what's vague?
[13:03] <anirudh0> zhyaao: describe in more detail please
[13:03] <Millow> Can anyone help me with this Cannot allocate memory - fork(2) problem I'm getting?
[13:03] <anirudh0> soundray: the name i mean...i thought it was an anime character
[13:03] <KillerOrca> xodiak: umm terminal then top to see the process #
[13:04] <KillerOrca> xodiak: then sudo kill that #
[13:04] <soundray> anirudh0: if you're logging on from .nl under a nick of maaike, you're either female or posing as one
[13:04] <xodiak> KillerOrca:Is that PID?
[13:04] <madyogi> JonathanElli1: Is the router set up properly? Does it recognise the 192.168.1.* net properly?
[13:04] <KillerOrca> xodiak: yes
[13:04] <tesseract> yeah I antecedently typed it here. Sorry fellas
[13:04] <pere_> Hi I need urgent help!! I have just upgrade ubuntu and now I can't record audio with audacity it sads that "check audio device" and from the panel is going, and is also very slow to do any thing!
[13:05] <xodiak> KillerOrca: PID is 5821
[13:05] <zhyagao> the situation is. when i worked with my picasa, suddenly all my keyboard stopped working. then i restart, finding that keyboard still didn't work. but when i switch into another user id, it is ok.
[13:05] <pere_> is basic for me!
[13:05] <madyogi> JonathanElli1: normally, per default, they use 192.168.0.* Maybe that's the Problem?
[13:05] <anirudh0> soundray: thnx for the info..will remember in the future...if you are logging as *anirudh*  from .in, you are either a male or posing as one :)
[13:05] <zhyagao> seems i did no change to my bashrc or else. i just dont know what's the matter with it
[13:05] <JonathanElli1> madyogi: Yes. The router is set as <IP_ADDRESS> with net mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:05] <anirudh0> zhyagao: does you keyboard work properly until the gdm stage?
[13:05] <soundray> anirudh0: :)
[13:06] <madyogi> JonathanElli1: hrm...
[13:06] <zhyagao> yep. it works fine in GDM, or just another user id environment
[13:06] <JonathanElli1> madyogi: And it works fine if the computer gets its address via DHCP. I think this is an Ubuntu problem not a router problem. Windows machines connect fine with
[13:06] <zhyagao> that's what i'm doing now
[13:06] <JonathanElli1> madyogi: with a fixed ip address
[13:06] <KillerOrca> xodiak: it is 5 am here, I need to sleep, good luck
[13:06] <madyogi> JonathanElli1: My Ubuntu also connects fine with fixed adsress
[13:06] <xodiak> Used the "Kill" don't know I knew that but it worked
[13:07] <xodiak> Thanks man!!!!
[13:07] <JonathanElli1> madyogi: I have experienced this problem with my other computer trying to connect to totally different hardware
[13:07] <RoadHazard> god love an OS with a command like kill
[13:07] <madyogi> JonathanElli1: The problem could be, that you mybe somehow take anothers computer IP?
[13:07] <anirudh0> zhyagao: if its a bashrc thing...you can just delete the file..it falls back to /etc
[13:07] <pere_> Hi I need urgent help!! I have just upgrade ubuntu and now I can't record audio with audacity it sads that "check audio device" and from the panel is going, and is also very slow to do any thing! some answer?
[13:08] <anirudh0> pere_:: check sudo alsamixer
[13:08] <anirudh0> pere_:make sure "Capture" is not muted
[13:08] <madyogi> JonathanElli1: Ill take a look at my config...
[13:08] <pere_> merci, in terminal window ok?
[13:08] <RoadHazard> is there new sound daemon in hardy?
[13:08] <anirudh0> pere_: yes
[13:08] <jrib> RoadHazard: pulse audio
[13:09] <RoadHazard> then he'll need to tell audacity about that
[13:09] <madyogi> JonathanElli1: You use wired connection, don't you?
[13:09] <Anton1234> pere_: Try also this: From audacity menu select:
[13:09] <mad_max02> I have downloaded kubuntu-8.04-dvd-amd64.iso. Is there both KDE 3 and KDE 4 on that dvd and how can I choose to install KDE4 only ???
[13:10] <Anton1234> Edit -> preferences -> Audio I/O -> Device Try to change it.
[13:10] <anirudh0> pere_:also make sure the pulseaudio daemon is running...to do this do "ps -A|grep pulse" ...and check that the output is not null
[13:10] <zhyagao> the problem is that i did not change my .bashrc file at all...it's just i downloaded some pictures from picasa, waiting patiently, and soon the keyboard stopped
[13:10] <JonathanElli1> madyogi: Nope. The only other computer on the subnet (this one I am typing on) has address <IP_ADDRESS>. The DHCP pool begins at <IP_ADDRESS> and there are no entries in the router DHCP pool for <IP_ADDRESS>. Usually I would expect a different error message for the problems you mention. "Network unreachable" usually means no route or no default gateway to connect to a machine on a different subnet. I am trying to connect to the same subnet. Yes it is a
[13:10] <anirudh0> zhyagao: what is you locale
[13:10] <zhyagao> en.US-utf8
[13:10] <pere_> yes I try it all, but nothing, I am on Alsa now but I don't really understand it...
[13:11] <pere_>  seems ok..
[13:11] <Anton1234> Tried to change the device as I told you?
[13:11] <Anton1234> It worked for me.
[13:11] <anirudh0> zhyagao: the only explanation is that picasa changed something in you home folder(since thats the only place it could have had permissions)
[13:11] <BigRed> ok in order to install ubuntu on my laptop I had to disable APIC....what are the downsides to this?
[13:12] <pere_> yes I try them all I have 3 alsa ways
[13:12] <anirudh0> zhyagao: so its a __last__ resort...but deleting the whole home folder must work
[13:12] <Dr_willis> mad_max02,  kde4 is very much a work in progress. and lacking a lot of features. I  suggest installng kde3, then installing kde4 to test out kde4
[13:12] <madyogi> JonathanElli1: Maybe you can try to take an IP Address from the DHCP pool, but a much higher address. For example <IP_ADDRESS>. Just for test if it'll work
[13:12] <soundray> BigRed: there are no noticable downsides that I've had as a long term user of noapic
[13:12] <Anton1234> pere_: Then I don't know how to help you without being in fron of your computer.
[13:12] <anirudh0> mad_max02: or install kubuntu-kde4-desktop...it has a sane mix of kde3 and kde4 packages
[13:13] <Dr_willis> BigRed,  you sure its noapic, not noapci ?
[13:13] <RoadHazard> its noapic and acpi=off
[13:13] <soundray> BigRed: some drivers may operate more slowly as they have to fallback to polling
[13:13] <anirudh0> pere_:: if you can...take a screenshot of the output of "sudo alsamixer" and post it somewhere we can see
[13:13] <Dr_willis> apci=off is the same as noapci i belive.
[13:13] <soundray> Dr_willis: there is no noapci, and not noacpi, only noapic
[13:13] <pere_> ok!
[13:13] <soundray> Dr_willis: no
[13:14] <Dr_willis> soundray,  if you say so. I reall needeing them ages ago. havent had to mess with them in ages.. seems odd way for them to name optuons
[13:14] <RoadHazard> I believe they did that to prevent dyslexic mistakes
[13:14] <Dr_willis> RoadHazard,  i recall them being there but i am gettting old and senile. :) and this was 3+ yrs ago.
[13:15] <anirudh0> is it possible to wake the computer up from hibernate after some prespecified delay?
[13:15] <pere_> I have it how can I show it?
[13:15] <anirudh0> pere_:: post the link!!
[13:15] <soundray> Dr_willis: well, APICs were invented before ACPI as far as I know, so blame Microsoft and consorts for creating confusion
[13:15] <pere_> I don't get it Where I up load it?
[13:16] <JonathanElli1> madyogi: Well thats weird! I changed the address to something high in the pool and it worked. Then I changed it back to <IP_ADDRESS> and it still works
[13:16] <RoadHazard> try like imageshack or something
[13:17] <anirudh0> pere__: yup..imageshack or imagevenue or flickr
[13:17] <zhyagao> just migrating all my previous home folder to a new id's home folder, u mean ?
[13:17] <zhyagao> anirudh0: i'm not quite sure what i can do now. but when i try to get sudo i get the msg " is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[13:17] <pere_> file:///home/pere/Escriptori/Screenshot.png
[13:17] <zhyagao> anirudh0: what should i do to recover my sudo?
[13:17] <pere_> ok!
[13:17] <madyogi> JonathanElli1: Maybe the router just don't want to accept anything from outside the DHCP range? Mine Netgear also didn't.
[13:18] <kevin_> anyone around her who can help me with applets for awn manager?
[13:18] <anirudh0> zhyagao: this is bad...you are in failsafe terminal?
[13:18] <anirudh0> kevin_: which particular applet..
[13:18] <zhyagao> anirudh0: no. i'm just use another user id to go into the X window
[13:18] <RoadHazard> zhyagao: tried a grub recovery boot?
[13:19] <zhyagao> RoadHazard: grub recovery boot to do what ?
[13:19] <RoadHazard> zhyagao: and visudo?
[13:19] <anirudh0> zhyagao: yes..as RoadHazard said..grub recovery boot will make you root
[13:19] <kevin_> well i installed awn manager (+other needed things) but i cant find any awn applet packages on internet and dont know how to install apllets in it -.-
[13:19] <kevin_> just started working with ubuntu :D
[13:19] <zhyagao> anirudh0: ok, i try it now. and get u back soon
[13:19] <anirudh0> kevin_: check out the awn homepage...they have debian packages for awn themes and awn-applets
[13:19] <pere_> here it is http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotrd5.png][IMG]http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/9387/screenshotrd5.th.png[/IMG][/URL]
[13:20] <kevin_> oke thx
[13:20] <simplexio> ~/last pere
[13:20] <kevin_> but is there a easy way to put shortcuts to inet and other things in the applet bar
[13:20] <kevin_> without downloading >
[13:20] <Blinny> Currently using i386 8.04 - Could I boot to an amd64 alternate CD and choose 'Upgrade', and have the installer figure out which packages I have and upgrade them all from i386 to amd64?
[13:21] <soundray> Blinny: no
[13:21] <JonathanElli1> madyogi: No I dont think thats it because the pool was set from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> and when I changed the machine address to <IP_ADDRESS> it worked first thing. Then when I changed the machine back to <IP_ADDRESS> the first line of the ping said "From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=1 Destination host unreachable" but then the next line of the ping worked fine. Now every time I ping it works first thing. Its a weird bug!
[13:21] <Le2> hi, if I run a command with su, how can I specify to the program I launch it's working directory?
[13:21] <jrib> Blinny: no, you need to reinstall to change architecture
[13:21] <Blinny> Damn.
[13:21] <vy> Hi! I disabled PasswordAuthentication and just allowed entrance via public key authentication in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. When I try to connect to the related machine via ssh, /var/log/auth.log tells that: «Accepted publickey for ...\npam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user ...\nerror: PAM: pam_open_session(): Permission denied.» Any ideas?
[13:21] <Blinny> Reinstall ==  formatting all partitions?
[13:21] <anirudh0> pere_: it seems several things are muted...you can unmute them by going to each and pressing the 'm' key
[13:21] <soundray> Le2: are you using su to run programs as root?
[13:22] <xodiak> exit
[13:22] <pere_> ok I try!
[13:22] <Le2> soundray: no, i'm actually doing the opposite- running a program in rc.local to make it run as not-root
[13:22] <madyogi> JonathanElli1: Really Weird
[13:22] <jrib> Blinny: reinstall == reinstalling ubuntu.  So whatever partitions it installs packages to will be wiped.  (not /home for example if that is on its own partition)
[13:23] <soundray> Le2: use 'su - username'. This should set the home directory to /home/username
[13:23] <Blinny> jrib: Okay. Thank you.
[13:23] <Le2> soundray: at the moment i've got su scast -c /home/scast/sc_serv/sc_serv &> /dev/null &, so I'd use su - scast -c /blah ?
[13:23] <laeg> is there anyway to create a folder in /media so i can mount disk images there? it seems like the most logical place
[13:24] <jrib> laeg: sudo mkdir /media/whatever-you-want
[13:24] <Swordbeta> Vlet, it's meh again :P
[13:24] <laeg> jrib: ty
[13:24] <soundray> Le2: I think so. Try it out from a root shell (sudo -i) to be sure
[13:24] <soundray> Le2: oh, not quite, sorry
[13:25] <Le2> soundray: huh?
[13:25] <sharkp> Hi
[13:25] <sharkp> I've a problem with the sound system
[13:25] <pere_> does not work.. here what I get http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/8607/screenshot1ij9.png
[13:25] <Le2> soundray: what could I use to test this? shoutcast is already running and in use so I can't kill it to try this
[13:25] <kevin_> anirudh0
[13:25] <soundray> Le2: man su  has the answer. You need to specify - as the last option. Alternatively, use su -l -c 'command'
[13:25] <sharkp> it's very low...I use the integrated sound by realtek
[13:25] <kevin_> do you maybe have alink for me ?
[13:25] <Le2> soundray: ah ok, thanks
[13:26] <soundray> Le2: su -l -c 'echo $HOME' username
[13:26] <soundray> Le2: this should echo /home/username
[13:26] <Le2> ok
[13:27] <Le2> is there any way to make it use a directory other than just the home dir?
[13:27] <bazhang> kevin_, link for what
[13:27] <madyogi> JonathanElli1: I can not add anything to it :-( Sorry...
[13:27] <anirudh0> kevin_: http://wiki.awn-project.org/DistributionGuides
[13:27] <soundray> Le2: oh, I misread... you said working directory...
[13:28] <Le2> soundray: hehe, unless I made the command cd sc_serv && sc_serv ?
[13:28] <soundray> Le2: su -l -c 'cd /some/dir && command'
[13:28] <soundray> Le2: indeed
[13:28] <Le2> yeah, thanks
[13:28] <tch23> Hi evryone!
[13:30] <tch23> deos someone know how to configure a real-time ubuntu studio's kernel?
[13:30] <RoadHazard> sudo apt-get install linux-image-rt ?
[13:31] <Templarian> hey guys when i'm doing a remote login to putty to a server that goes through a router how exactly do i tell it to find the server without setting a port forwarding?
 what you think?
[13:31] <Swordbeta> can someone help me installing php5 and mysql on apache2? I have downloaded  all packages via synaptic, but php and mysql isn't working on apache, apache is working though
[13:31] <anirudh0> pere_: as i said before...unmute all the settings in alsamixer
[13:31] <Templarian> !remotelogin
[13:32] <Templarian> !remote login
[13:32] <anirudh0> pere_: "man alsamixer" shhoudl give you more info
[13:32] <jrib> !lamp > Swordbeta (read the private message from ubottu)
[13:32] <anirudh0> pere_:*should
[13:32]  * Templarian mr bot his that helpful.
[13:32] <krim> I've tried to upload a large (1.4 MB) .torrent file to three different sites several times, every time I get "Connection Interrupted. The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again.", this has happened with both Firefox and Konqueror (using Hardy). I asked someone using Opera to upload it for me to one site and that worked. Anyone want to tr
[13:32] <vlt> Hello. Which group members are allowed to start and stop printers by default?
[13:33] <Swordbeta> Thanks jrib, I'll take a look at lamp
[13:33] <pere_> yes I done it, and doesnot work, what you mean? is a terminal comand?
[13:33] <pere_> "man alsamixe" ?
[13:33] <anirudh0> pere_: yes it is a terminal command to show alsamixer's manual page
[13:34] <pere_> ok I see...
[13:34] <anirudh0> pere_: but since you say you have already unmuted everythin...it might not help very much :(
[13:34] <pere_> is sads men not found
[13:35] <bazhang> pere_, man not men
[13:35] <magnetron> !man | pere_
[13:35] <pere_> ok! sorry! I have it!
[13:36] <anirudh0> pere_: :)
[13:36] <pere_> but is what you sad, may be in audacity help?
[13:36] <RoadHazard> I'm not completely sure if audacity is compatible with pulse
[13:36] <mrichman> What does this mean when gxine gives you this: video_out_xv: No adaptors found. You can improve performance by installing an X11 driver that supports the Xv protocol extension.
[13:37] <anirudh0> pere_: sorry about that ...i have'nt used audacity too much myself...maybe someone else can help
[13:37] <pere_> Thank you any way! nice time!
[13:37] <anirudh0> pere_: but try if gnome-sound-recorder works
[13:37] <Swordbeta> jrib, I get this error: tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[13:38] <anirudh0> pere_: since your problem is about capturing audio, and not with audacity itself
[13:38] <pere_> the thing is that before upgrading it was working!
[13:38] <jrib> Swordbeta: and when you don't use tasksel?
[13:38] <RoadHazard> yes, the audio daemon is different in hardy
[13:38] <anirudh0> pere_:fresh installs are always better.. both in terms of system bloat and things working :)
[13:39] <pere_> What you mean fresh installs?
[13:39] <Swordbeta> install: missing destination file operand after `lamp-server'
[13:39] <Swordbeta> Try `install --help' for more information.
[13:39] <RoadHazard> FFR
[13:39] <Jav13r_> where could i get some help about Alpine mail clinet?
[13:39] <RoadHazard> Fdisk, Format,  Reinstall
[13:40] <pere_> ok...
[13:40] <pere_> lot of work huh!!
[13:40] <RoadHazard> it can be
[13:40] <tandc> Hello
[13:40] <anirudh0> pere_: nope...just pop in a cd..then its 20 min work
[13:41] <RoadHazard> anirudh0: ....and rewrite half the /etc directory....
[13:41] <pere_> but can I re-install only alsa?
[13:42] <praveen> hi bala
[13:42] <krim> I've tried to upload a large (1.4 MB) .torrent file to three different sites several times, every time I get "Connection Interrupted. The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again.", this has happened with both Firefox and Konqueror (using Hardy). I asked someone using Opera to upload it for me to one site and that worked. Anyone want to tr
[13:42] <anirudh0> pere_: theoretically::yes...practically:: it might not work
[13:42] <steph33560> Hello
[13:42] <RoadHazard> mornin steph, state the nature of your medical emergency
[13:43] <mrichman> How do I play Quicktime videos?
[13:43] <pere_> ok I keep trying I must go now Thank you so much!
[13:43] <steph33560> I'm looking for informations about WIFI WEP ASCII definition in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:43] <steph33560> did not find any links...
[13:43] <Swordbeta> do you know what I can do jrib?
[13:43] <jrib> Swordbeta: what command did you exectue?
[13:44] <Swordbeta> sudo tasksel install lamp-server, jrib
[13:44] <krim> mrichman: tried http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+quicktime ?
[13:44] <jrib> Swordbeta: yes, follow the directions that don't involve tasksel
[13:44] <Swordbeta> how?I'm a windows newb, so I don't know anything about linux, jrib
[13:45] <mrichman> krim: yes, but i can't find the mplayer plugin
[13:45] <jrib> Swordbeta: read the rest of the wiki after the tasksel part
[13:45] <tolecnal> krim: I'll make it easy for you -> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[13:45] <bazhang> mrichman, mozilla-mplayer?
[13:45] <Swordbeta> but thats about installing them seperatly, I want them to install them in one
[13:45] <RoadHazard> steph33560: lookie here http://paste.ubuntu.com/14083/
[13:45] <krim> tolecnal: That's the answer to mrichmans question, not mine :)
[13:45] <tolecnal> krim: ah, sorry.. kinda jumped in there :P
[13:45] <tolecnal> mrichman: http://www.medibuntu.org/ :P
[13:46] <Lego_Minifig> Where can I get help with 3D effects?
[13:46] <D_ubuntu> heelloooo
[13:46] <kantlivelong> ENTERTAIN ME!
[13:46] <D_ubuntu> i need help..??!!!
[13:46] <Lego_Minifig> I am trying to do the cube effect and I cannot get it to do more than 2 sides.
[13:46] <kantlivelong> sup D_ubuntu
[13:46] <D_ubuntu> with graphic
[13:46] <krim> D_ubuntu: The red button.
[13:46] <mrichman> tolecnal: cool...which of those packages do i need to install?
[13:47] <steph33560> RoadHazard, I got this but it seems that's informations are lacking
[13:47] <RoadHazard> Lego_Minifig: in gnome-compiz-manager theres a selection for #of desktops
[13:47] <tolecnal> mrichman: the site should tell you what do to :)
[13:47] <RoadHazard> Lego_Minifig: set to 4 or waddever
[13:47] <Lego_Minifig> I am running KDE
[13:47] <legend2440> mrichman: in synaptic mozilla-mplayer is the MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[13:48] <D_ubuntu> i have old ati card and have troble with drivers now
[13:48] <D_ubuntu> can anybody help me
[13:48] <D_ubuntu> envy doesnt resolve my problem
[13:49] <pteague> !ati
[13:49] <Lego_Minifig> I have rotate cube abd some other ettings, but nothing on changing cyube sides.
[13:49] <kantlivelong> D_ubuntu: need more info
[13:49] <D_ubuntu> ok
[13:49] <tandc> Joshua 1
[13:49] <tandc> God.s Commission to Joshua
[13:49] <D_ubuntu> i have vesa drivers now because i cant find better
[13:49] <tandc>  1 After the death of Moses the servant of the LORD, it came to pass that the LORD spoke to Johua the son of Nun, Moses. assistant, saying: 2 .Moses My servant is dead. Now therefore, arise, go over this Jordan, you and all this people, to the land which I am giving to them.the children of Israel. 3 Every place that the sole of your foot will tread upon I have given you,, as I said to Moses. 4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon as far as the gr
[13:49] <mrichman> legend2440: i just need Gnome desktop integration...dont care about the browser right now
[13:49] <tandc> The Order to Cross the Jordan
[13:49] <tandc> 10 Then Joshua commanded the officers of the people, saying, 11 .Pass through the camp and command the people, saying, .Prepare provisions for yourselves, for within three days you will cross over this Jordan, to go in to possess the land which the LORD your God is giving you to possess...
[13:49] <D_ubuntu> everything is slow and flickering
[13:49] <FloodBot1> tandc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:50] <jesse> !brightness
[13:52] <thrope> hello - i have 64 bit unbuntu - is firefox there 64bit?
[13:52] <jrib> thrope: yes
[13:52] <thrope> jrib: how does flash work then (not having any problem - just checkign)
[13:52] <jrib> thrope: nspluginwrapper runs 32bit flash
[13:53] <thrope> ah ok
[13:53] <D_ubuntu> can anyone help my...?? stupid ati drivers
[13:53] <RoadHazard> theres firefox and firefox32 still isnt there? because of shockwave?
[13:53] <D_ubuntu> everything is slow and flickering
[13:54] <jrib> RoadHazard: shockwave isn't available for linux at all.  You would need to run a browser in wine
[13:54] <RoadHazard> yuck
[13:54] <Pici> Shockwave is not the same as flash though.
[13:55] <RoadHazard> mah x wife is a pogo nut
[13:56] <RoadHazard> and I'm still wrangled with her tech support somehow
[13:56] <telemaco> anyone is in the UDS ?
[13:56] <destino> Buongiorno
[13:56] <bazhang> !it | destino
[13:57] <Steve-cal> Question about Grub: if I have two linux distro's installed on my HD (one Ubuntu), and each have Grub installed, how can I change which Grub will be loaded at boot time?
[13:57] <RoadHazard> Steve-cal: have it install to the master boot record at install time
[13:58] <BWGames> my gnome taskbar and menu've disappeared.. cant get them back at all..only way to get anything decent working is failsafe terminal, then start stuff from there.. any ideas?
[13:58] <scunizi> Steve-cal, Grub creates a menu for you to choose which opsys you want to load
[13:59] <Steve-cal> RoadHazard: Yes, that's actually the problem. I didn't mean to install Grub on my second distro install, and now the second distro handles boot up--i want Ubuntu to retain the boot up.
[13:59] <gogeta> hey guys can virtulbox run off a real partation like vmware
[14:00] <scunizi> Steve-cal, do you actually want Ubuntu as the first option in the list?
[14:00] <pteague> i've always installed multi-boots in reverse order that i want to have control
[14:00] <Steve-cal> scunizi: No, I just want Ubuntu's Grub to control boot-up, not the other distro.
[14:01] <scunizi> Steve-cal, you can use Ubuntu's live cd to reinstall grub
[14:01] <RoadHazard> Steve-cal: sudo grub --install (hdx) where x is where you want it
[14:01] <pteague> although with multiple linux distros you could mount the /boot & modify the grub boot list
[14:01] <DaveTarmac> not REALLY ubuntu related, but can I use rsync over SSH to backup FROM a remote site? everything I find online is for backing up TO a remote server?
[14:02] <pteague> DaveTarmac: yes...  however the source or target has to be the machine you're running rsync on
[14:02] <RoadHazard> DaveTarmac: if you have rsync on both machines you can go both ways
[14:03] <DaveTarmac> rsync is on both machines. I tried running it and I get link_stat ... No such file or directory errors
[14:03] <Steve-cal> RoadHazard: That seems like a bit of a workaround--I don't want to reinstall Grub in Ubuntu to gain back the MBR. Isn't there a way in the grub shell to change it, such as the "root /dev/hdaX" commmand or something?
[14:04] <RoadHazard> Steve-cal: just trying to save you from having to rewrite your own menu.lst
[14:05] <whileimhere> Hi. Is there a way to extract one page from a 30 page pdf?
[14:05] <DaveTarmac> so do I need to put the backup script on the server to push it down to the local one?
[14:06] <Steve-cal> RoadHazard: Thanks, I think it would actually be easy for me to add my second distro to my Ubuntu's menu.lst--I've done something like that before. Do you know anything about that "root /dev/hdaX" command in Grub? Is that what I'm looking for?
[14:06] <scunizi> whileimhere, if you have installed the cups-pdf print driver you could "print" the page you want to a new pdf
[14:06] <magnetron> !info pdftk | whileimhere
[14:07] <RoadHazard> you could use sudo grub --boot-drive=
[14:08] <__mor1> hi there. My wireless network starts at boot (I don't use networkmanager, i had to delete /etc/udev/rules.d/85-ifupdown.rules). Good. The PROblem: eth0 (wired) comes up too and i have routing problems while i don't set ifdown eth0... why? Better: how can i solve the problem?
[14:08] <whileimhere> scunizi good idea
[14:09] <Abd67> hi all. The package manager is saying "A problem has occurred when checking for updates" and now I can't even go to software source or preferences on the update manager on hardy
[14:10] <jrib> Abd67: what happens when you run 'sudo apt-get update'?
[14:10] <scunizi> whileimhere, when printing pdf's from cups they will end up in the ~/PDF directory
[14:10] <ubuntu_> jel ima ovde nekog iz Srbije?
[14:11] <Pici> !pl | ubuntu_
[14:12] <sarthor> i have installed gyache... that was not .deb file, i installed from tar.gz,, there is not uninstall help,,, how to remove gyachi now.. i want to install with webcam suport now.
[14:13] <lars_bauer> Program to unpack <filenane>.rar
[14:13] <jrib> sarthor: what command did you use to install it?
[14:13] <jrib> !rar > lars_bauer (read the private message from ubottu)
[14:13] <sarthor> ./configure
[14:13] <tyler> anyone installed the sidebar screenlet?
[14:13] <sarthor> jrib, ./configure