[00:10] <mzanetti> balloons: looking into this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/machines-vs-machines/+bug/1417706
[00:10] <mzanetti> balloons: do you know an app that does this kind of thing?
[01:53] <popey> mzanetti: I don't think any app can suppress screen-off. The exception is mediaplayer-app.
[02:05] <Elleo> mzanetti, popey: yeah, personally I think there needs to be a permission for it (that prompts the user) as I can think of a few use cases where it'd be handy (beru, games, third party video things, etc.)
[05:15] <mhall119> Elleo: any chance of you putting your gcompris build in the store?
[06:47] <akiva-thinkpad> !ping
[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:08] <dholbach> balloons, yo... https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-devices-help/1416389/+merge/249647
[07:38] <akiva-thinkpad> dholbach, o/
[07:38] <dholbach> hey akiva-thinkpad
[07:38] <akiva-thinkpad> \o
[09:06] <dholbach> dpm, maybe we can do something about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-devices-help/+bug/1416389 together?
[09:06] <dholbach> or Nick could help as well?
[09:06] <dpm> dholbach, in the team call yesterday we decided to have a call today (also with Julia) to break down the tasks for the help app
[09:07] <dpm> I've not set it up yet, I'll do it in a few mins
[09:07] <dholbach> ok
[09:07] <dholbach> as I said in the bug: I need help fixing this
[09:08] <dpm> dholbach, yeah, I should probably take it myself, but I've not had the chance to look at it yet
[09:09] <dholbach> or maybe we can block half an hour together to do something like pair programming
[09:11] <dpm> happy to, but I'd like to look at it in detail first to make the most of it
[09:32] <Elleo> mhall119: eventually, I want to get things into a state that the gcompris devs have a version working from their branch which can then go into the store
[09:46] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Chocolate Mint Day! :-D
[09:53] <sturmflut-work> karni, gcollura, rmescandon: Great work on the Telegram app!
[09:53] <rmescandon> sturmflut-work, thanks!
[09:54] <gcollura> thanks sturmflut-work :)
[09:54] <karni> sturmflut-work: thank you :)
[09:59] <sturmflut-work> karni, gcollura, rmescandon: ...and I would like to shamelessly plug https://plus.google.com/u/0/102486542947898431342/posts/34mxERYLqpx
[10:00] <karni> sturmflut-work: wow, I didn't know about that whatsapp move. ha, thanks ;)
[10:03] <sturmflut-work> karni: The WhatsApp app in the Google Play Store is really getting a lot of negative reviews because people want WhatsApp+ back.
[10:03] <popey> whats the + one?
[10:03] <karni> sturmflut-work: proving and API and then shutting it down because competition is better is usually a bad idea
[10:03] <karni> popey: I bet it's an unofficial client
[10:03] <popey> ahh
[10:04] <karni> strange though it's got 'WhatsApp' in the name though
[10:04] <popey> yeah, those are usually terminated by WhatsApp themselves pretty promptly
[10:05] <sturmflut-work> popey: It's an unofficial client that allows more customization than the official one. You could even change the Icon. People love themes, colors, icons and stuff
[10:05] <popey> yeah
[10:06] <karni> sturmflut-work: instead, they should have employed/contracted the dev of whatsapp+, that would be smarter.
[10:07] <sturmflut-work> karni: It's Facebook after all.  People could come up with stupid ideas, like bulding a WhatsApp+ client which suddenly also supports Telegram at the same time, and when the users realise that Telegram is free, while WhatsApp costs money, they could suddenly decide to ditch WhatsApp without any problems
[10:18] <sturmflut-work> Just one of the many possibilities
[10:18] <justCarakas> hmm
[10:56] <m-b-o1> popey: weather app meeting today?
[10:56] <popey> m-b-o1: yes.
[10:56] <m-b-o1> popey: 17h utc?
[10:57] <popey> yup!
[10:58] <m-b-o1> popey: thanks
[10:58] <popey> see you then
[13:38] <dholbach> dpm, when is the help app planning call going to be?
[14:28] <dholbach> hey balloons
[14:28] <dholbach> how are things?
[14:29] <kunal_> Hi dear developer, please tell me can I use QUICKLY on Ubuntu14.04lts to develop python apps for desktop???
[14:31] <kunal_> Hi dear developers, please help me,  please tell me, can I use QUICKLY on Ubuntu14.04lts to develop python apps for desktop???
[14:32] <balloons> hey dholbach, excellent, yourself?
[14:33] <dholbach> doing well, thanks :)
[14:33] <balloons> I was looking at your mp yesterday
[14:33] <dholbach> I talked to dpm earlier about how we move on with the help app
[14:33] <dholbach> ah, cool
[14:33] <balloons> right right.. he was to schedule a meeting so we can sprint on it. Also, I was starting on an initial content merge
[14:34] <dholbach> nice!
[14:35] <kunal_> dear developers, please help. Please tell me Can I use Quickly to evelop phython apps for ubuntu desktop on ubuntu 14.04lts. please help me.
[14:39] <dholbach> kunal_, yes, I think you can - the problem is: as far as I know quickly is not supported or actively maintained any more
 : Hi dear developers, thanks for your help. I have developed a ubuntu app in QUICKLY and I hade packaged my app using the commands in Quickly and when I submitted it to ubuntu software center, again and again packaging error is being eported . please assist me
[14:46] <dholbach> I'm sorry - I don't know how to help
[14:46] <kunal21> please dear developers, please tell me , Is there any more tool like Quickly, in which I can develop apps for Ubuntu.
[14:47] <dholbach> kunal21, I'm not sure you saw it earlier, but I think the problem is: as far as I know quickly is not supported or actively maintained any more
 oh, thanks. Please tell me , Is there any more tools Like Quickly in which I can Develop ubuntu desktop app. Please help me.
[14:49] <dholbach> you could try sending a mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>com
[14:49] <dholbach> or asking on askubuntu.com
[15:11] <balloons> so dholbach we have 4 user stories on taiga; are there any more we need for the help app?
[15:11] <balloons> We'll expand those into tasks, but want to make sure we have everything covered
[15:13] <dholbach> balloons, sounds good to me - I wasn't sure if we shouldn't break up "online" and "offline" and if we should add "I want to translate the app", but I guess it's all covered already
[15:15] <balloons> dholbach, ahh right, translation is a story
[15:16] <dholbach> I guess it's covered through "... in my language"
[15:18] <dholbach> balloons, considering that we have https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-devices-help ... that's a first step for translators already :)
[15:22] <balloons> dholbach, right, it's kind of covered.. but we want translators, just like doc contributors. It's it's own story
[15:22] <balloons> might not add more tasks per se, but I'll add the story
[15:22] <dholbach> ok
[15:27] <dpm> dholbach, sorry, I set up the meeting now for tomorrow.
[15:28] <dpm> dholbach, you and I can do a hangout tomorrow morning to look at the translations issue if you want
[15:33] <dholbach> dpm, brilliant
[15:56] <Chipaca> simosx: here
[15:56] <Chipaca> currently playing a fullscreen game, so i don't see notifications :) but i'll check every game year or so ;)
[15:56]  * Chipaca on serious vacation time
[15:59] <simosx> Chipaca, are there more options than /notify/? How would one send messages between an app on the phone and an app on the deskop/etc?
[15:59] <simosx> as in a chat app.
[16:02] <Chipaca> simosx: all this is is a commandline client of the push notifications api
[16:02] <Chipaca> simosx: it's designed to be used in things like chat apps
[16:02] <Chipaca> but not bidirectional
[16:03] <Chipaca> it's for things like getting tweets if your twitter app is closed
[16:03] <Chipaca> that kind of thing
[16:03] <Chipaca> simosx: this: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/platform/guides/push-notifications-client-guide/
[16:04] <Chipaca> simosx: i wrote this because i run bip (an irc proxy), and fancied getting notifications on my phone when somebody mentioned me. With this I can glue some unix commandline tools into push :)
[16:04] <Chipaca> so I tail -f the bip log, and send me notices when my nick comes up
[16:07] <simosx> Chipaca, if one were to send to more than one user, they would need to repeat the process for each one? (or some feature for a broadcast?)
[16:07] <jgm90> hello
[16:08] <jgm90> i want to create a downloader html5 app
[16:08] <jgm90> any idea
[16:12] <simosx> jgm90, is that for Ubuntu Touch?
[16:15] <jgm90> yes
[16:27] <Chipaca> simosx: yes; multicast is to-be-done (on the list though)
[16:28] <Chipaca> simosx: assuming by "repeat the process" you mean "specify the right token and POST to the /notify endpoint, that is
[16:33] <simosx> Chipaca, as if to send notifications to a bigger group of users, like 100.
[16:34] <simosx> Chipaca, is it possible for an app to receive the title/body in order to do processing? That is, to get an app to run as a result of such a notification being sent from some source.
[16:35] <Chipaca> simosx: every notification is processed by the app's helper
[16:35] <Chipaca> simosx: which is a part of the app; it doesn't have a window though
[16:36] <Chipaca> simosx: 100 is probably the cutoff point at which it makes sense to looking into doing multiple POSTs per connection ;)
[16:37] <Chipaca> for performance on your side, that is
[16:39] <simosx> Chipaca, Thanks! Will try all these.
[16:41] <Chipaca> simosx: you told me you'd looked at the code, does that include the code for the app?
[16:41] <Chipaca> simosx: otherwise, snapshot at https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/+junk/poke/ (under the "click" directory)
[16:43] <simosx> Chipaca, I checked the bzr repo you listed above.
[16:46] <simosx> (also /opt on the phone)
[16:51] <mihir> popey:
[16:51] <mihir> popey: ping!
[16:51] <popey> mihir: yo!
[16:51] <mihir> popey: i am looking at bug for After Date Recurrece
[16:51] <mihir> it seems there has to be some issue with EDS.
[16:53] <mihir> popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1362781
[16:53] <popey> yeah, there's a couple of merges on there
[16:54] <popey> bfiller: do you have some time for someone to re-look at the above bug?
[18:16] <andrewbiolo> hello guys! I am Andrea and I am studying how to develop an app for ubuntu (touch)..can I do a question? Can I use a python script  in an app or scope? Thanks
[18:17] <akiva-thinkpad> andrewbiolo, hey andrew
[18:18] <akiva-thinkpad> andrewbiolo, they short answer is yes, but doing python is more complicated for one reason
[18:18] <akiva-thinkpad> andrewbiolo,  you will have to bundle your own python interpreter, because for security reasons, we don't want apps using the interpreter bundled in the actual phone.
[18:24] <andrewbiolo> akiva-thinkpad, ok thank you for the answer!
[18:24] <akiva-thinkpad> andrewbiolo, what are you looking to develop by the way?
[18:24] <akiva-thinkpad> andrewbiolo, we also do use python to test our apps, via autopilot.
[18:26] <jdstrand> ftr, it isn't security reasons for not having python. it is that security policy doesn't allow it. the reason is that python isn't currently a supported framework and we make no guarantees about using it with apps
[18:26] <jdstrand> andrewbiolo, akiva-thinkpad: fyi ^
[18:26] <akiva-thinkpad> jdstrand, :o
[18:27] <jdstrand> python is a fine language :)
[18:27] <akiva-thinkpad> jdstrand, is it because it does an exec in apparmor?
[18:27] <jdstrand> we can mediate python fine
[18:27] <akiva-thinkpad> I'm far from a security expert, so i'll take your word for it.
[18:27] <jdstrand> it is literally that we don't make any guarantees via frameworks that the system python won't break your app
[18:28] <akiva-thinkpad> jdstrand, ah so its for stability purposes? Interesting.
[18:28] <jdstrand> yes
[18:28]  * zyga points to checkbox that ships python3.4 and pyotherside in a click package as an example
[18:28] <jdstrand> and security policy therefore doesn't support it
[18:28] <akiva-thinkpad> jdstrand, thanks for explaining that to me. I'll be sure to pass that along in the future.
[18:28] <jdstrand> but you're free to ship it in your package yourself
[18:29] <jdstrand> maybe in the future we'll offer a python framework
[18:29] <jdstrand> but for now, no
[18:29] <ogra_> snappy will oferr one for sure :)
[18:39] <andrewbiolo> akiva-thinkpad, jdstrand, I am only studying how develop an app, but I would create a Strava app (or scope) to extract information of athletes and paths from its database. The api of the service use curl for extract the information. For extract this data I have to use or a library c++ (libcurl) or a 3rd party library in python..
[19:30] <akiva-thinkpad> andrewbiolo, just use the c++; that is easy.
[19:31] <akiva-thinkpad> well other than the fact that you  need to know a bit of c++
[19:46] <andrewbiolo> akiva-thinkpad, sure! My question was only curiosity .. I'm looking for the best choice to start..thank you very much!
[19:46] <akiva-thinkpad> andrewbiolo, NP; if you want to be walked through getting setup with a c++ project, let me know and we can do it with teamviewer or something.
[19:53] <andrewbiolo> akiva-thinkpad, thanks! I will write you (or someone else here) when I will be ready :-)
[19:55] <akiva-thinkpad> :)
[22:21] <mzanetti> creating a 14.10 click chroot hangs here at: Extracting zlib1g...
[22:21] <mzanetti> anyone has a hint?
[22:43] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: Sadly no, I created a bunch of 14.10 chroots over he last days but didn't run into this particular problem
[22:50] <SturmFlut> popey, mzanetti: I'll be on vacation for the next four weeks, so I'll most likely not be at home when the phones are delivered :/ please keep me informed!
[22:51] <mzanetti> 4 weeks...
[22:51] <mzanetti> have fun then
[22:55] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: Yeah, and one of those weeks is just compensation for overtime... they are basically forcing me to not go to work.
[22:55] <mzanetti> :)
[23:20] <popey> when you say "vacation", do you mean "sitting on irc without -work suffixed to my nickname"?
[23:22] <SturmFlut> popey: No, I mean "sitting on a tropical island without -work suffixed to my nickname" :P
[23:22] <popey> :)
[23:22] <popey> Sounds fun. Send us a postcard.
[23:22]  * SturmFlut will actually hit 300.000 kilometers when touching down at his destination
[23:23] <popey> we need a multi-player networked Cards Against Humanity for Ubuntu :)
[23:24] <SturmFlut> popey: In 3D please, we need more 3D games


[00:28] <hads> morning
[19:42] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:31] <ajmitch> morning
[22:00] <mwhudson> morning
[22:53] <kcj[work]> Morning
[22:55] <mwhudson> fmarier: can you unban me in #equifoss?
[22:56] <kcj[work]> mwhudson, Are you a bad person?
[22:57] <kcj[work]> My mother warned me about your kind.
[22:57] <mwhudson> heh
[22:57] <mwhudson> the ban bot seems a bit over the top :)
[22:57] <kcj[work]> She told me not to hang around with them.
[22:57] <kcj[work]> Or to hang around with them.
[22:57] <kcj[work]> Not sure.
[23:38] <thumper> mwhudson: what did you say to get banned?
[23:38] <thumper> mwhudson: did you say a bad word?
[23:38] <thumper> and... what is #equifoss?
[23:38] <mwhudson> i tried to join when unidentified i think
[23:38] <mwhudson> an irc channel named after a pub crawl
[23:39] <thumper> I'm surprised they have a ban bot
[23:44] <mwhudson> it's a chanserv (mis)feature i think


[23:16] <billybigrig> anyone here willing to help a guy out? i'm trying to pretty up the Grub2 wiki page i started
[23:17] <billybigrig> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[23:18] <billybigrig> any tips?


[12:06] <ravanan> I am having trouble installing Ubuntu 20.10 in Legacy mode. I clearly selected Legacy Boot when I booted my Dell Latitude E5450 with my bootable USB stick. Whenever I try crossing the partitioning step in the installer, I get a warning about not having created an EFI system partition. As far as I know, I don't have to create one for Legacy boot. I
[12:06] <ravanan> checked /sys/firmware and it doesn't have anything related to EFI. If I go ahead with the installation, ignoring the warning, my grub-install fails. What should I do?


[11:32] <jphilips> was checking the xubuntu-dev ppa and many of the 18.04 builds arent working
[11:32] <jphilips> https://imgur.com/E6kTlJY.png
[12:10] <bluesabre> I wonder what the best way is to track these misc. tasks...
[12:10] <bluesabre> Maybe we should revive the team trello (https://trello.com/xubuntuteam)
[12:11] <bluesabre> I need to put a meeting together :D
[12:11] <jphilips> would assume the builds not working should email the team
[12:11] <bluesabre> Yeah, it does... at least some parts of the team, but they only build when a new commit is pushed.
[12:12] <bluesabre> Suppose I should just get it fixed.
[12:13] <bluesabre> I'll try to tackle some open items tonight.
[12:21] <bluesabre> Added fixing those builds, xubuntu.org/screenshots, and xubuntu.org/tour to my list so they'll stay on my mind.
[12:22] <bluesabre> jphilips: was there anything else that you were waiting on from myself or the team?
[12:22] <bluesabre> besides a meeting and talking about bridges, that is
[12:24] <jphilips> nothing comes to mind, though as 20.10 is branched, i would like to start putting in my UI/UX suggestions, so would need guidance to do so
[12:26] <bluesabre> Alrighty, I'll make sure all the code branches are where they need to be tonight, then point you in the right direction. Adding to my list.
[12:26] <bluesabre> bbl
[12:37] -BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-panel 4.14.4 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-panel-4-14-4-released-tp58691.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)
[17:48] <jphilips> is it a known issue that the lock screen shows up while watching a video on youtube
[17:53] <ochosi> depends on whether the browser inhibits the screensaver
[17:53] <ochosi> i think chrome does that
[18:38] <jphilips> was watching it in firefox
[21:35] <bluesabre> xfce4-screensaver has a setting, Inhibit screensaver for fullscreen applications
[21:35] <bluesabre> since browsers are not consistent about their inhibiting
[21:36] <bluesabre> and neither are games
[22:39] <Unit193> The mentioned PPA is daily builds, so not really as important as the backports PPA.


[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116521 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116521
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116524 in rdiff-backup (main) "[apport]  rdiff-backup crashed with OSError in chmod()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116524
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116525 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116525
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116526 in speedcrunch (main) "[apport]  speedcrunch crashed with SIGSEGV in Q3TextParagraph::lineHeightOfChar()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116526
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116527 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): installArchives() failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116527
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116528 in numlockx (universe) "Deinstalling numlockx breaks X startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116528
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116529 in kdepim (main) "networkstatus fails to load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116529
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #116530 in Ubuntu "Sound from USB Sound Cards has distortions and dropouts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116530
[02:13] <fernando> hey all
[02:29] <ubotu> New bug: #116532 in ia32-libs (main) "ia32-libs 1.19ubuntu1 has a file conflict with ia32-libs-sdl (1.0ubuntu3)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116532
[02:29] <ubotu> New bug: #116534 in dvd95 (universe) "[apport]  dvd95 crashed with SIGFPE in CpuBackupQuality()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116534
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116536 in kdelibs (main) "Unknown Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116536
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #116537 in wzdftpd (universe) "wzdftpd-mod-avahi dont work in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116537
[02:56] <andresmujica> Hi
[02:56] <andresmujica> i try to help everytime i can to triage bugs
[02:56] <andresmujica> but i wonder if i ca nassign the bug to someone.
[02:56] <andresmujica> for example i want to assign a bug to the kernel team is that allright??
[02:57] <andresmujica> how can i know the right person for assigning the bug to ??
[02:59] <Hobbsee> leave it unassigned
[02:59] <Hobbsee> as in, if it's in the right source package, tehy'll see it anyway
[03:00] <andresmujica> hmm ok!!
[03:00] <persia> andresmujica: We use assignments to mark work that is currently being done, rather than work that needs to be done.  This way more people can help more easily.
[03:01] <andresmujica> hmm.. ok, so the BCP is to leave it unassigned...??
[03:02] <Hobbsee> yes
[03:02] <andresmujica> ok... perfect.
[03:02] <andresmujica> how does the bug mentor program works??
[03:02] <Hobbsee> there is one?
[03:03] <Hobbsee> i thought it was "ask in here, and hopefully someone will answer"
[03:03] <Hobbsee> if they'r ehere
[03:03] <andresmujica> i'mseeing in some bugsa offer to mentor this bug..
[03:03] <jjesse> i think you have to work w/ the person directly who is willing to be the mentor
[03:04] <persia> andresmujica: That just means someone is willing to help someone else fix the bug.  If you want to fix it, and aren't sure how, you can contact the mentor.
[03:04] <andresmujica> but is some kind of system with $$ involved as the sourceforge $$$ links ??  or some kind of technical guide?
[03:04] <jjesse> more like i technical guide i think
[03:06] <persia> andresmujica: Just someone who offers to answer questions about fixing the bug, and getting the fix into the archives.
[03:06] <andresmujica> ok. nice.
[03:06] <andresmujica> another question is there a way to link a forum thread with a bug report??
[03:07] <Hobbsee> from the forums, yes, from the bugtracker, no
[03:07] <persia> andresmujica: Add a comment to the bug that this is being discussed in the forums at <URL>
[03:07] <Hobbsee> although adding a comment saying the forum url in the bugtracker works
[03:08] <persia> Hobbsee: :)
[03:08] <Hobbsee> hi persia :)
[03:09] <andresmujica> ok tks!
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116538 in Ubuntu ""Secret" dual boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116538
[03:17] <ScottK> ^^ rejected ...
[03:18] <Hobbsee> "if you want something that specific,why dont you research into it"
[03:18] <ajmitch> we have such wonderful bugs sometimes
[03:19] <jjesse> are you talking about the "secret boot" bug?
[03:21] <Hobbsee> yeah
[03:21] <persia> Do we support GRUB-on-floppy?
[03:24] <Hobbsee> er...maybe...
[03:24] <Hobbsee> bug #?
[03:25] <persia> Hobbsee: It's for the future Answer for the aforementioned effort at secrecy.  I'm just not sure if update-grub and the like would work for that configuration.
[03:25] <RAOF> Eh, I was going to tell him to set "hiddenmenu" and "default" in menu.lst
[03:26] <persia> RAOF: Depends on the definition of "utmost" :)
[03:27] <RAOF> :P
[03:28] <Hobbsee> persia: i think the question is "does grub-on-floppy support ubuntu?" with the inference to file bugs on grub if ti doesnt.
[03:30] <persia> Hobbsee: It's trickier than that - grub-floppy requires a pair of floppies, and looking at the update-grub code, I've determined we don't support it (we need everything mounted at /boot/grub).  The user needs to engage in a manual workaround, and it's a sufficiently rare case that patching update-grub just seems extra difficult to me :)  RAOF gets the win.
[03:31] <Hobbsee> persia: fun...
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116539 in glame (universe) "glame filter net lock-up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116539
[04:04] <ubotu> New bug: #116540 in blender (universe) "new python 2.5 compatible version available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116540
[04:04] <ubotu> New bug: #116541 in hal (main) "[apport]  hald-runner crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116541
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #116542 in glibc (main) "compilation problem libc + libpthread20" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116542
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116543 in apport (main) "apport is not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116543
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116544 in liferea (main) "Liferea Crashes and Podcasts Enclosures Continue to Download" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116544
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116545 in vbetool (main) "[apport]  vbetool crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116545
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116546 in liferea (main) "Liferea Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116546
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #116547 in liferea (main) "Liferea Crash when being  run under GDB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116547
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #116548 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "Upgrade java6 to update 01" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116548
[05:39] <ubotu> New bug: #116549 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokcollectionscanner crashed with SIGSEGV in QPixmap::convertFromImage()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116549
[05:39] <ubotu> New bug: #116550 in banshee (universe) "Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116550
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116551 in evince-gtk (main) "Installing evince-gtk removes ubuntu-desktop metapackage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116551
[06:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116552 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in vfprintf()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116552
[07:14] <ubotu> New bug: #116553 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Resume failure: Feisty + Sony Vaio VGN-FE41Z" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116553
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #116554 in cacti (universe) "Cacti Not Displaying All Data Templates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116554
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #116555 in ubuntu-meta (main) "feisty: gnome-bluetooth installation requires manual addition to session startup list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116555
[08:02] <ubotu> New bug: #116556 in Ubuntu "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.E: _cache->open() failed, please report." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116556
[08:02] <ubotu> New bug: #116558 in yum (universe) "installed kubuntu, ran updates, installed yum, typed "yum" in console, pressed enter, error: cannot open Packages..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116558
[08:06] <dholbach> good morning
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #116560 in Ubuntu "upgrade tool crashed (Edgy-->Feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116560
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach: i'm looking at the firefox clue files and comparing it to bug #71702 's retrace
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> seems like the %40 should go correct?
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i think it was at one point a @ that put in there for no reason...anyways, let me know what you think
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/71702 was the link...the bot is not responding.
[08:32] <dholbach> Admiral_Chicago: bughelper should automatically take care of quoting "@" and stuff
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay, I'm in the process of updating the clue file sometime tonight/tomorrow, would it be adviseable to just take it out during an update?
[08:36] <dholbach> Admiral_Chicago: you can leave it in or take it out - as you wish
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> neat. I'll keep that in mind. thanks....bbiab
[08:49] <ubotu> New bug: #116561 in synaptic (main) "not saving new repositories" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116561
[08:49] <ubotu> New bug: #116562 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "p4-clockmod not loaded for celeron M system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116562
[08:49] <ubotu> New bug: #116563 in kdepim (main) "Knotes creates note on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116563
[08:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 71702 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@js_FinalizeStringRT] [@js_atom_uninterner] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71702
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116564 in gnome-applets (main) "Trash applet : no warning when a file can't be deleted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116564
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116566 in gcompris (main) "[Sync Request]  gcompris 8.3.1-3 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116566
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #116567 in curl (main) "bug with hardcoded value in sscanf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116567
[09:37] <ubotu> New bug: #116387 in Ubuntu "austrian repository mirror broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116387
[09:37] <ubotu> New bug: #116569 in Ubuntu "kubuntu 7.04 installer hangs" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116569
[09:38] <ubotu> New bug: #116570 in totem (main) "Amarok crashes, particularly when running kaffeine at the same time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116570
[09:38] <ubotu> New bug: #116571 in Ubuntu "[apport]  simple-backup-config crashed with NoSectionError in get()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116571
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116572 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116572
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116573 in twisted-words (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116573
[10:00] <dholbach> bdmurray: we already have likely-dup - is that what you intended 'metabug' to be?
[10:05] <dholbach> test... bug 12345
[10:05] <dholbach> ubotu doesn't seem to do that
[10:24] <ubotu> New bug: #116575 in icon (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116575
[10:24] <ubotu> New bug: #116576 in dia (main) "crash on moving object" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116576
[10:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 12345 in isdnutils "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12345
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116577 in imhangul (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116577
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116578 in openbox (universe) "Missing Xrandr support" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116578
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116579 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes when browsed for "about:plugins" information" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116579
[11:07] <persia> pochu: Does bug 59138 still apply to wx2.6, or was it solved with the port to 2.8?
[11:07] <pochu> !ping
[11:08] <persia> pochu: ubotu is sleeping - passing messages, but not intelligent :)
[11:08] <pochu> persia: It's fixed both in wx2.6 and wx2.8
[11:08] <persia> That's what I thought, and upstream.  I just received a heap of mail about it (from dups), and wanted to make sure.  Thanks.
[11:08] <pochu> No problem :)
[11:09] <pochu> persia: there were somebody who said the patch wasn't working for him, but an rm -rf ~/.aMule worked for him.
[11:09] <pochu> Maybe that's the problem for that user (or that he's using Dapper, who knows) :)
[11:10] <persia> pochu: That sounds like more of an amule issue than WX, and probably a case of the same behaviour for a different reason as well.
[11:12] <ubotu> New bug: #116580 in kmplayer (main) "[apport]  kxineplayer crashed with SIGSEGV in xine_event_dispose_queue()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116580
[11:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 59138 in wxwidgets2.6 "[SRU: EDGY]  amule crashes when I close a tab" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/59138
[11:13] <ubotu> pong
[11:14] <pochu> lol :)
[11:14] <pochu> ubotu, tha laggy bot :)
[11:14] <pochu> 11:14 <    ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:14] <pochu> But for that he doesn't lag :)
[11:15] <persia> pochu: I think it was asleep earlier, as no responses came in a number of channels, but at least there's some output now.  Standard ubotu might be back soon :)
[11:15] <pochu> :)
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116581 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-qt crashed with error in load()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116581
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116582 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[Gutsy]  ipw2200-bss.fw request_firmware failed: Reason -2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116582
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116583 in beryl-core (universe) "weather applet crashes on logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116583
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116584 in libmusicbrainz-2.1 (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116584
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116585 in deskbar-applet (main) "[gutsy]  Deskbar Applet fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116585
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116586 in libquicktime (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116586
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116587 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116587
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116588 in kdeaccessibility (main) "Activation gestures confirmation dialog best enabled by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116588
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116589 in ktorrent (main) "[apport]  ktorrent crashed with SIGSEGV in dbus_connection_dispatch()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116589
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116590 in lynx (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116590
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116591 in openoffice.org (main) "[gutsy]  Open Office crashs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116591
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #116592 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kicker crashed with SIGSEGV in QGVector::size()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116592
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116593 in kdepim (main) "Kmail filters are broken with IMAP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116593
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116594 in evolution-exchange (main) "evolution crashes when adding recepients, and it looks up the names via http /exchange" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116594
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116596 in kde-systemsettings (main) ""System Settings" cannot be opened and crashes in Gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116596
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116597 in gnome-terminal (main) "terminal does not let me print my pass word" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116597
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116599 in firestarter (universe) "Firestarter fails on system boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116599
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116600 in pidgin (main) "Information window takes too long to open for Jabber contacts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116600
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #116601 in screem (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116601
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #116603 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kicker crashed with SIGSEGV in QImage::reinit()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116603
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116604 in gnome-vfs (universe) "gnome-vfs is not well integrated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116604
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116606 in app-install-data-commercial (main) "dpkg --configure vmware-server hangs after starting services" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116606
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #116608 in Ubuntu ""Unmount Volume" is too techie (usability)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116608
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116610 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116610
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116611 in Ubuntu "Promise SuperTrak SATA Raid-Controller OpenSource-Driver freezes system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116611
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116612 in openoffice.org (main) "when i open a archive .pps and close it, my openoffice open a new document, always!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116612
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116613 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Compact flash in PCMCIA adaptor does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116613
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116614 in tracker (universe) "[apport]  trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116614
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #116615 in aircrack-ng (universe) "aircrack-ng -- buffer overflow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116615
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #116616 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "Cups runs into a printer detection loop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116616
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #116617 in gnome-panel (main) "not able to run update manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116617
[04:03] <bdmurray> dholbach: I interpreted likely-dup to be one you thought was a dup but didn't know what of
[04:04] <dholbach> what is 'metabug' then?
[04:04] <dholbach> I don't think I exactly got what it is for
[04:04] <seb128> I think it's a way to say it's a bug likely to have dups, no?
[04:04] <seb128> like people using MASTER to the title
[04:05] <dholbach> ah ok
[04:06] <seb128> dholbach: that allow to makes a list of "common issues"
[04:06] <dholbach> right
[04:07] <bdmurray> seb128: yes, that is it.  like master but more easily searchable
[04:07] <seb128> having launchpad sorting by duplicates number would be nice
[04:11] <bdmurray> persia: what do you mean?
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #116620 in Ubuntu "hald problem when cd is in device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116620
[04:12] <persia> bdmurray: I don't know which of the multiple projects that are LP are appropriate for each bug.  The few I have filed ended up being duplicates of bugs in other components.  Now I'm too unsure to complain.
[04:14] <bdmurray> persia: when you say projects do you mean "packages" in Ubuntu?  You should hesitate to submit a good quality bug report, duplicates are fine.
[04:15] <bdmurray> I mean should not
[04:18] <persia> bdmurray: No.  Malone vs. Soyuz vs. Rosetta vs. etc. (I'm currently getting too many internal server errors to make a list).
[04:18] <persia> dholbach: In what way is bug 33576 fixed in gutsy?  desktop-file-validate still has output.
[04:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 33576 in gnome-utils ".desktop file cleanup for gnome-system-log" [Wishlist,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/33576
[04:19] <bdmurray> persia: ah, okay.  those names aren't very descriptive of their function
[04:19] <persia> bdmurray: Yep.  I understand that a better guide is on the list of things to do, at which point, it will be easier to report issues, etc.
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116622 in Ubuntu "Monitor OSD menu is blocked after launching Ubuntu 7.04 LiveCD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116622
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116624 in apparmor (universe) "Profiles not applied to running processes when AppArmor is started" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116624
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116625 in Ubuntu "Qt program crashes on Feisty Fawn due to X server " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116625
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116626 in vdccm (universe) "WM5 (Windows Mobile 5) support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116626
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116627 in apparmor (universe) "latest apparmor utilities for feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116627
[05:09] <meisok_> 2
[05:09] <meisok_> ubuntu-es-dg
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116629 in Ubuntu "please sync bzr packages from debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116629
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116630 in Ubuntu "Package Request: KDEnlive NLE for KDE video editing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116630
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116631 in Ubuntu "Ambiguous label when downloading sources.list during install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116631
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116632 in attal (universe) "[apport]  attal-client crashed with SIGSEGV in QMetaObject::activate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116632
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116633 in cryptsetup (universe) "cryptsetup luksFormat fails with obscure error message when device is mounted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116633
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #116634 in openoffice.org (main) "Drop Caps don't show in oowriter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116634
[05:56] <killown> gdm does not execute after boot it returns a nvidia error "module not found" but I do login as root and execute gdm and it works fine .. what I do to fix it?
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116635 in kdebase (main) "Kate indentation does not work if "show tabulators" is off" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116635
[06:04] <persia> killown: You'll probably get a better answer to your question in the official support channel (#ubuntu),
[06:06] <killown> persia, I am tired of do asks in there ,,,,, nobody reply
[06:09] <pochu> killown: which ubuntu version? which driver version? how have you installed it?
[06:09] <persia> killown: It may be that nobody there knows.  This just isn't really a support channel.
[06:09] <killown> pochu, ubuntu feiyst
[06:10] <pochu> killown: install it with Restricted Manager.
[06:10] <killown> pochu, before was works fine
[06:11] <killown> pochu, but module nvidia delay to up in boot
[06:11] <killown> whence gdm dont works
[06:11] <killown> after login root nvidia module yet up
[06:12] <pochu> killown: how have you installed it?
[06:13] <killown> pochu, it problem start unexpected
[06:13] <killown> I dont have modified nothing
[06:14] <pochu> Is it the nv driver, or the nvidia one?
[06:15] <killown> pochu, nvidia
[06:16] <pochu> killown: then you installed it... It's not enabled by default.
[06:16] <killown> pochu, but module nvidia load automatic after boot
[06:16] <pochu> killown: is it an upgrade from Edgy, or a clean install?
[06:16] <killown> gdm try execute before up module nvidia
[06:17] <killown> pochu, I have install feiyst a long time
[06:17] <killown> yesterday I have it problem
[06:18] <pochu> killown: please check whether that bug is filled here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/ :)
[06:19] <killown> pochu, ok
[06:19] <pochu> bug 87468
[06:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 87468 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 "nvidia module won't load if no xorg.conf is available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87468
[06:20] <killown> ok
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116638 in kde-guidance (main) "Monitor & Display' module in System Settings is not working after upgrading to KDE3.5.7" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116638
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #116639 in ddd (universe) "[apport]  ddd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116639
[06:24] <pochu> killown: if you find your bug there, provide all the info that might be needed, and confirm it.
[06:24] <pochu> If it's not there, please report it :)
[06:27] <killown> ok pochu Igo to check log
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116642 in thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird always shows 1 unread email in Inbox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116642
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116643 in Ubuntu "screensaver activates despite mouse events (Opera, flash)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116643
[06:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116644 in libzrtpcpp (universe) "twinkle crashes with error in libzrtpcpp-0.9.0-5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116644
[06:41] <ubotu> New bug: #116645 in pygobject (main) "[gutsy]  missing Replaces in python-gobject-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116645
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #116646 in Ubuntu "no sound on laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116646
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #116647 in apparmor (universe) "Man pages refer to wrong files and directories" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116647
[07:01] <killown> pochu, http://rafb.net/p/EY4cOE95.html
[07:01] <killown> after login root I am get run gdm
[07:01] <killown> but before it not
[07:02] <killown> gdm display it error in link
[07:02] <pochu> killown: if you use the -generic kernel, do you have the same issue?
[07:02] <killown> pochu, kernel low latency
[07:02] <killown> generic kernel I dont have
[07:03] <pochu> killown: do you have the package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-lowlatency ?
[07:03] <pochu> If so, try reinstalling it.
[07:03] <killown> pochu, agpgart                35788  2 nvidia,via_agp
[07:03] <killown> pochu, ok
[07:03] <killown> but module is running see it
[07:03] <killown> i2c_core               23552  3 nvidia,i2c_ec,i2c_viapro
[07:04] <killown> agpgart                35788  2 nvidia,via_agp
[07:04] <killown> problem is in gdm
[07:04] <killown> pochu, apt has option reinstal?
[07:05] <pochu> killown: aptitude has :)
[07:05] <killown> I go to remove and install again
[07:30] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install --reinstall package
[07:30] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116648 in gcc-4.1 (main) "internal compiler error: Illegal instruction" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116648
[08:27] <Seveas> @reload Bugtracker
[08:27] <ubotu> OK
[08:28] <Seveas> Ubotu should now no longer display new apport bugs
[08:29] <Hobbsee> yay!
[08:29] <bdmurray> thanks Seveas
[08:29] <Seveas> of course
[08:29] <bdmurray> that's fine too. ;)
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #116660 in Ubuntu "Falsh memory not recognized anymore......." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116660
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #116662 in Ubuntu "screen output is corrupted on Dell OptiPlex GX115 and GX150" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116662
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116663 in hwdb-client (main) "base de donnes Kubuntu crasches" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116663
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #116665 in gthumb (main) "Slide show do not work from command line with parameter --fullscreen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116665
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #116666 in xserver-xgl (universe) "xgl crashes when konqueror starts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116666
[09:20] <Xk2c_> question: apport bug with retrace
[09:20] <Xk2c_> what to do with ?
[09:20] <Xk2c_> shall we send it upstream?
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Xk2c_: got a bug number?
[09:29] <Xk2c_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-btdownload/+bug/101977 Admiral_Chicago
[09:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 101977 in gnome-btdownload "[apport]  gnome-btdownload crashed with SIGSEGV in PyObject_Malloc()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]
[09:30] <Admiral_Chicago> let me grab food and i'll be right with you
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116668 in pidgin (main) "Gaim closes when chatting with someone using MSN Plus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116668
[09:33] <Xk2c_> ok Admiral_Chicago
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #116670 in Ubuntu "Random selected hard disk Ubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116670
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116672 in Ubuntu "feisty freeze after running gnomeburner" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116672
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116673 in cupsys (main) "[feisty]  cupsd leaking file descriptors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116673
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #116674 in boo (universe) "boo{c,i,ish} not working at all (seg fault)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116674
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Xk2c_: the next step would be to read the retrace and see what you can do with it
[09:57] <ubotu> New bug: #116675 in firefox (main) "mail program does not open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116675
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> personally, i'd look for other similar retraces and write a clue file...
[09:57] <Xk2c_> clue file = sumarization?
[10:05] <cjwatson> pochu: Replaces often need to be on older versions; that's not unusual
[10:05] <cjwatson> pochu: (116645)
[10:05] <cjwatson> pochu: I have whatever I was upgrading from; http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/possible-conflicts/ may help
[10:06] <cjwatson> pochu: in general, though, the maintainer ought to be able to work out when they moved the file, and I have no sympathy if they can't ;-)
[10:07] <pochu> cjwatson: thanks for the info. I'll try to fix it here :)
[10:07] <killown> gdm dont start during boot .. I get ir error http://rafb.net/p/20ohGd51.html  but after login as root I execute gdm command is it work fine I have too lsmod and nvidia modules found up   what I do to fix it?
[10:08] <cjwatson> pochu: 2.12.3-0ubuntu3 I think, but the Replaces needs to be considered more carefully than that anyway
[10:10] <pochu> cjwatson: I've seen that actually the docs are installed in -dev, and -doc is mostly empty (changelog and that stuff). So that's something to fix too :)
[10:12] <cjwatson> as a general rule, in case it's not obvious, any time a file is moved from one package to another that move *must* be accompanied by an appropriate Replaces field
[10:12] <cjwatson> the only exception is when the packages Conflict for some other reason (but don't use Conflicts just because a file moved!)
[10:14] <pochu> That makes sense. I'll remember it!
[10:14] <pochu> (I haven't set them).
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #116679 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "CONFIG_SND_AC97_POWER_SAVE should be enabled in kernel 2.6.22" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116679
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #116681 in openafs (universe) "Openafs-modules-source fails to build on gutsy kernel 2.6.22-4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116681
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #116682 in network-manager (main) "VPN Connection Error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116682
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116685 in mantis (universe) "Please sync mantis 1.0.7+dfsg-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116685
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116686 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed when trying to compose" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116686
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #116687 in listen (universe) "[gutsy]  Listen crashes with segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116687
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #116688 in firefox (main) "/var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116688
[11:14] <pochu> asac: still around?
[11:17] <asac> pochu: more or less in minor mode
[11:17] <asac> but yes
[11:20] <pochu> asac: if you have a moment, bu 116687 looks like the wikipedia/lyrics tab crash on listen. Are you still unable to reproduce it?
[11:20] <asac> bug 116687
[11:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116687 in listen "[gutsy]  Listen crashes with segfault" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116687
[11:20] <asac> pochu: i am not unable to reproduce it ... i am unable to run it in my gutsy chroot
[11:21] <pochu> Can't you start listen at all?
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #116689 in vlc (universe) "Problem with viewing quicktime movies with Mozilla VLC plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116689
[11:21] <asac> pochu: i can start ... but esd is not reachable
[11:21] <pochu> :/
[11:21] <asac> pochu: this is why i never get a song played
[11:21] <asac> i really can't believe that its too hard to track it down
[11:21] <pochu> asac: but that doesn't matter, it should crash even with no songs.
[11:22] <asac> pochu: i don't know how then
[11:22] <pochu> It seems I can't :(
[11:22] <asac> intersting
[11:22] <pochu> I'll try on Sunday or next week again (I'm traveling for a wedding tomorrow :) )
[11:22] <asac> now i can't start it
[11:22] <asac> but it appears to be unrelated
[11:22] <pochu> What's the error?
[11:23] <asac> (listen.py:24139): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Cannot load module `/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libmapping.so' (/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libmapping.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[11:23] <asac> its probably a missing depends
[11:23] <asac> because listen is installed .. .while this file is not
[11:24] <pochu> asac: nautilus-cd-burner: /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libmapping.so
[11:24] <pochu> asac: try installing it. If it works, I'll add it as a depends :)
[11:25] <asac> it will install something
[11:25] <asac> so probably you have to add it
[11:25] <asac> pochu: try uninstalling
[11:25] <asac> and see if you get the same
[11:26] <pochu> asac: doing. BTW, don't you have ubuntu-desktop installed? :)
[11:26] <asac> no ... i have only installed what is needed for depends
[11:27] <asac> and i don't want to install full desktop either
[11:27] <gnomefreak> pochu: you working on compiz?
[11:28] <asac> pochu: ok i can start it but still can't reproduce now
[11:28] <pochu> gnomefreak: listen :)
[11:28] <asac> because i can't play sound
[11:28] <pochu> asac: but if you go to lyrics/wikipedia, doesn't listen crash?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> right this second yes but arnt you a major contributer to compiz
[11:28] <gnomefreak> pochu: not on gutsy
[11:28] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:29] <pochu> asac: yeah it works fine here without nautilus-blah
[11:29] <asac> nothing happens if i don't play a thing
[11:29] <pochu> gnomefreak: I triaged some bugs, but nothing apart of that.
[11:29] <asac> actually it complains about missing esd
[11:29] <asac> what package is that in?
[11:29] <asac> maybe it should be a depend?
[11:29] <asac> or at least a recommend?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> !info esd
[11:29] <ubotu> Package esd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:29] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[11:30] <pochu> gnomefreak: Amaranth knows well the code, and he's packaged it.
[11:30] <pochu> asac: esound
[11:30] <gnomefreak> asac: there isnt a package or source for it it seems
[11:30] <gnomefreak> apt-cache show esd i figured would show source for it
[11:31] <pochu> !esound
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <pochu> !info esound
[11:31] <ubotu> esound: Enlightened Sound Daemon - Support binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.36-3ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 27 kB, installed size 100 kB
[11:32] <gnomefreak> libesd-alsa0
[11:32] <gnomefreak> libesd0
[11:32] <gnomefreak> are the depends for it
[11:32] <asac> pochu: if you start with a LANG value set that has a locale that is not instlaled listen doesn't start either
[11:32] <asac> maybe open a bug for that
[11:32] <asac> you get
[11:32] <asac> (gutsy)asac@hector:~$ listen
[11:32] <asac> (listen.py:25277): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[11:32] <asac>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[11:32] <asac> Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:32] <asac>   File "/usr/lib/listen/listen.py", line 218, in <module>
[11:32] <asac>     ListenApp()
[11:32] <asac>   File "/usr/lib/listen/listen.py", line 91, in __init__
[11:32] <asac>     locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, '')
[11:32] <asac>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/locale.py", line 476, in setlocale
[11:32] <asac>     return _setlocale(category, locale)
[11:33] <asac> locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
[11:33] <pochu> !flood
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[11:33] <pochu> :)
[11:33] <asac> yeah
[11:33] <ThunderStruck> what are we testing on it? i have full feisty set up with listen installed
[11:33] <asac> ok it now doesn't complain anymore about missing esd
[11:33] <asac> now i have to find mp3
[11:33] <pochu> ThunderStruck: listen is half-broken on gutsy :(
[11:34] <pochu> hmm
[11:34] <ThunderStruck> good luck finding fee mp3
[11:34] <pochu> asac: It's a suggest, IIRC
[11:34] <ThunderStruck> looks like works fine on feisty now
[11:34] <pochu> ThunderStruck: even going to Lyrics/Wikipedia, right? :)
[11:34] <asac> i have some on a server in arctica
[11:35] <gnomefreak> pochu: yes
[11:35] <pochu> But in Gutsy it segfaults :/
[11:35] <gnomefreak> im looking
[11:35] <pochu> gnomefreak: thanks :)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> this reminds me of that damn gtk crash in ff
[11:35] <gnomefreak> it freezes than crashes
[11:36] <gnomefreak> asac: it seems when i was building OO.o it was crashing, i found a crash file on it
[11:37] <asac> pochu: its a crap app ... it doesn't import my mp3 folder
[11:37] <asac> i even renamed it to not contain whitespace anymore
[11:37] <asac> no chance
[11:37] <asac> gnomefreak: probably OOO
[11:37] <asac> OOM
[11:37] <asac> i mean
[11:37] <asac> not enough memory
[11:37] <pochu> asac: you can import a song in Music>Import file
[11:37] <pochu> or the full library in folder :)
[11:38] <asac> i cannot import the folder
[11:38] <asac> 0 songs loaded in  0.00139093399048  seconds
[11:38] <pochu> asac: oh, but it won't import it if you don't have the codec! :)
[11:38] <asac> i cannot import a file either
[11:38] <pochu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[11:38] <gnomefreak> can you play them on another player?
[11:38] <pochu> asac: try those ^
[11:38] <asac> i won't install ugly
[11:39] <ThunderStruck> multiverse
[11:39] <ThunderStruck> iirc
[11:39] <asac> *I* won't install ... not *it* :)
[11:39] <ThunderStruck> oh
[11:40] <asac> ok so mp3 is in ugly
[11:40] <asac> fine
[11:40] <pochu> :/
[11:40] <asac> i guess i should delete all mp3 files now :)
[11:40] <pochu> asac: isn't it a chroot? Install it and remove it later... Nobody will ever know...
[11:40] <pochu> asac: don't you have a .ogg file?
[11:40] <asac> if it doesn't work now ... i give up
[11:41] <gnomefreak> hmm
[11:41] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[11:41] <pochu> http://jonobaconfanclub.co.uk/
[11:41] <pochu> :)
[11:41] <gnomefreak> damn commas
[11:41] <asac> pochu: it works for me
[11:41] <asac> wikipedia page opens
[11:41] <asac> all fine
[11:42] <pochu> asac: That's weird :/
[11:42] <gnomefreak> give me a minute im copying an mp3 or 10 over
[11:42] <asac> lyrics work as well
[11:42] <asac> all fine
[11:42] <pochu> Then I'll try reinstall Gutsy on another partition this weekend
[11:42] <gnomefreak> thats screwed up
[11:43] <asac> pochu: it works in my gutsy chroot
[11:43] <asac> maybe you still have old libnss3 and libnspr4 installed?
[11:43] <Admiral_Chicago> we having a MT meeting in here or something...?
[11:43] <asac> hehe
[11:43] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:43] <asac> yeah
[11:43] <asac> i am on duty
[11:43] <asac> :)
[11:43] <pochu> ii  libnss-mdns                                0.10-0.1ubuntu1                            NSS module for Multicast DNS name resolution
[11:43] <pochu> 23:43 ii  libnss3-0d                                 3.11.5-3                                   Network Security Service libraries
[11:44] <gnomefreak> only problem its not bugday :)
[11:44] <asac> hehe
[11:44] <gnomefreak> those are new ones
[11:44] <asac> gnomefreak: you got it :)
[11:44] <pochu> Admiral_Chicago: please join us! :)
[11:44] <Admiral_Chicago> what are we doing now?
[11:44] <asac> seeing if someone can reproduce listen problem
[11:44] <gnomefreak> testing listen
[11:44] <pochu> 23:44 ii  libnspr4-0d                                4.6.6-3                                    NetScape Portable Runtime Library
[11:44] <asac> for me listen works in gutsy chroot
[11:44] <asac> have no full desktop install atm
[11:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i have a feisty system for testing if you need me
[11:45] <pochu> Admiral_Chicago: gutsy would be better :)
[11:45] <asac> pochu: what version of listen?
[11:45] <pochu> 0.5-0ubuntu4, iirc
[11:45] <pochu> yes, that's it.
[11:45] <gnomefreak> 0.5-0ubuntu4 is gutsy
[11:45] <pochu> I'm in Gutsy :)
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116693 in Ubuntu "No sound in kubuntu feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116693
[11:45] <asac> pochu: i have libnspr4-dev and libnss3-dev installed as well
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116694 in bzrtools (main) "Please sync bzrtools (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116694
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #116695 in bzr-gtk (universe) "Please sync bzr-gtk (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116695
[11:45] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry can't help..
[11:45] <pochu> asac: let me try
[11:46] <asac> those should not matter ... in theory
[11:46] <gnomefreak> shouldnt need the -dev packages
[11:46] <gnomefreak> asac: how do you have both installed?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> -dev removes -0d
[11:46] <asac> no
[11:46] <gnomefreak> oh thats right
[11:46] <asac> libnspr-dev does not libnspr4-dev
[11:46] <pochu> crash! :/
[11:47] <pochu> with 4-dev and 3-dev
[11:47] <gnomefreak> give me a minute
[11:47] <gnomefreak> or a couple
[11:47] <pochu> sure thing :)
[11:48] <pochu> btw, I've read core-devs will join the Hug Days :)
[11:48] <pochu> it'll be funny :)
[11:48] <gnomefreak> still extracting the tars
[11:55] <gnomefreak> it crashed here
[11:55] <pochu> Then either asac is a lucky guy, or chroots FTW! :)
[11:55] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #116696 in Ubuntu "network manager ppp doesn't support gprs/umts data cards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116696
[11:56] <gnomefreak> hold that thought
[11:56] <gnomefreak> yep still crashes
[11:56] <gnomefreak> wikipedia and lyrics
[11:57] <pochu> Well at least you can reproduce it now :)
[11:57] <pochu> I'm not alone anymore. yay!
[11:57] <gnomefreak> as do you have libnspr-dev or libnspr4-dev installed?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> same with libnss
[11:58] <pochu> libnspr4-dev and libnss3-dev
[11:58] <gnomefreak> me too
[11:58] <pochu> and 4-0d and 3-0d
[11:59] <gnomefreak> has to be 4-0d there isnt a nspr-0d nor nss-0d
[12:00] <gnomefreak> pochu: what one of them is the build-dep on the package?
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116697 in m4 (main) "eval() Broken dividing signed numbers in GNU M4 1.4.9" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116697
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #116698 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  raop-play for airtunes compatibility" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116698
[12:01] <pochu> gnomefreak: noone atm.
[12:01] <gnomefreak> libnspr4-dev or libnspr-dev
[12:01] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:01] <pochu> gnomefreak: it depends on firefox-dev, though.
[12:01] <pochu> I've tried to build-depend it on libnss3-dev, libnspr4-dev, without success.
[12:02] <gnomefreak> thats right
[12:02] <gnomefreak> i remember that convo now
[12:02] <gnomefreak> pochu: python looks to be at fault
[12:02] <gnomefreak> look at the crash file name
[12:03] <gnomefreak> is the whole thing coded in python?
[12:03] <pochu> gnomefreak: yes, but it uses gtkmozembed.
[12:03] <pochu> gnomefreak: it worked fine even in gutsy before the libnss3 and libnspr4 changes.
[12:03] <gnomefreak> that is possible but if so it wont get fixed
[12:04] <gnomefreak> python changed from feisty to gutsy iirc gtkmozembed didnt


[00:22] <erick_> Hi, I heard Ubuntu Studio 16.04 would be released tomorrow.
[00:24] <erick_> Would it be around midnight?
[00:52] <OvenWerks> erick_: still respin/testing so probably a bit later.
[00:54] <erick_> Got it. Thank you.
[00:54] <erick_> Love the OS.
[01:02] <yorwos> hi all !
[01:02] <yorwos> has any1 upgraded 14.04 to 16.04 ?
[02:11] <vramos> hello, I'm a newbie to ubuntu studio and having been trying to get my jackd settings to 0 xruns
[02:12] <vramos> I have a Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 and using QJACKCTRL
[02:12] <vramos> server prefix is jackdmp
[02:15] <georgeowell> how are you getting on with the 6i6?
[02:15] <georgeowell> I'm thinking of getting one. Can't help with jackd I'm afraid.
[11:47] <subru> Hi!
[11:47] <subru> So Ive got Ubuntu studio 15.10 installed.
[11:48] <subru> Do I need to download and install the 16.04 LTS .iso in order to update?
[13:25] <erick_> Good morning.
[13:25] <erick_> I heard 16.04 is out for Ubuntu now.
[13:38] <coolomatics> hi erick_, the download pages are not updated yet. maybe later
[13:38] <erick_> I know. I am super excited.
[13:41] <zequence> It's not out yet
[13:41] <zequence> But, will be later today
[15:01] <erick_> For Ubuntu Studio 16.04, do you use mir as display manager?
[15:03] <zequence> erick_: No
[15:06] <erick_> I see. Thanks.
[17:51] <studio-user051> hello
[17:51] <manuel_> hi
[17:52] <studio-user051> i had a quick question
[17:52] <manuel_> yes?
[17:52] <studio-user051> i am looking to have Ubuntu Studio on my laptop with a midi keyboard for live performances
[17:52] <manuel_> yes?
[17:53] <studio-user051> do i need to have another piece of hardware to interface with an amp?
[17:53] <studio-user051> or the audio card in my laptop is the question...depends on that?
[17:53] <manuel_> It is desirable. Could be a good idea to have an external interface
[17:54] <studio-user051> like an USB audio interface?
[17:54] <manuel_> yes
[17:54] <studio-user051> ok.  i thought so.
[17:54] <studio-user051> i am installing now...looking forward to playing with it
[17:55] <studio-user051> have a good day manel
[17:55] <studio-user051> manuel
[17:56] <manuel_> But during my last performance, I did not use any interface and I had a very good response from the jack latency. I worked with ChuCk and Pure Data-extended
[17:56] <manuel_> cheers
[17:58] <zequence> studio-user051: All you need is a midi interfeace. If the keyboard has a usb out, that is usually what it is - builtin
[17:58] <zequence> But, for the audio, yes, a semi pro audio card is preferable to builtin stuff
[18:07] <manuel_> hi
[20:25] <sirriffsalot> Can I dist-upgrade for ubuntu 16.04?
[20:37] <zequence> sirriffsalot: dist-upgrade only updates packages. The name is little confusing
[20:37] <zequence> sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:38] <sirriffsalot> zequence, humm, ok. Would it be wise to wait a while? :)
[20:39] <sirriffsalot> zequence, yeah, saw what you wrote in #opensource, cheers
[20:39] <zequence> sirriffsalot: I only upgrade in between projects, so I let that decide when
[20:39] <zequence> But, the I usually do fresh installs. And, I usually go with whatever is the latest, configure it, and do my stuff until I'm ready
[21:24] <studio-user216> I'm installing ubuntu studio! Wooho!


[04:31] <Mirv> morning
[04:39] <Mirv> I'm thinking of writing to the mailing list about removing the 'qt5-default' dependency from those apps who only use it to have /usr/bin/qmlscene neatly available, but I may need to re-read the text a couple of times more..
[07:54] <om26er> gusch, hey!
[07:55] <gusch> om26er: hi
[07:55] <om26er> gusch, the branch is ready, and now the test seem to pass as well.
[07:55] <om26er> gusch, https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/gallery-app/fix-failing-test-jenkins/+merge/165201
[08:00] <gusch> om26er: not as readable as I would like it, but ok
[08:01] <gusch> om26er: I will approve it
[08:01] <om26er> gusch, things got quite complex fixing that bug, so took this approach.
[08:02] <om26er> s/bug/test
[08:03] <gusch> om26er: can't you call "lambda: self.album_view.number_of_photos()" in the assert?
[08:06] <gusch> om26er: hmmm - I'll write a comment  (and not approve right away)
[08:06] <om26er> gusch, yeah so i have found things to not work reliably with that, as number_of_photos() gives a number which is returned wrong on very slow systems like jenkins
[08:06] <om26er> let me try that again
[08:09] <gusch> om26er: commented
[08:11] <om26er> thanks, working on it.
[08:58] <gusch> om26er: approved
[08:58] <om26er> gusch, thanks
[09:05] <om26er> renato_, Hi!
[09:05] <om26er> renato_, so the branch you approved yesterday for the tests, there is a failing test that I disabled.
[09:06] <om26er> the test fails on touch because it pulls out the launcher there, on desktops its also not reliable as it fails on different screen resolutions
[09:06] <om26er> https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/mediaplayer-app/fix_on_touch/+merge/165230
[09:46] <timp> zsombi: I'll work on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1167232 but I'll create a general solution by adding property action to AbstractButton
[09:46] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1167232 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[toolbar] Toolbar using buttons behaves different for the back button" [High,Confirmed]
[09:48] <zsombi> timp: ok, so remember to fill all relevant fields (i.e. button's label) when an action is specified. I'd say actions should override previous values of button.text. Also don't forget triggering action's signal from clicked()
[09:50] <zsombi> timp: then the next step perhaps would be to add action to every component
[09:50] <timp> zsombi: I'll just change the default text: action ? action.text : "" instead of the current "". Setting text explicitly will override the action's properties.
[09:50] <zsombi> timp: so you want to handle the action data with lower priority as the component' sown properties?
[09:52] <timp> yes
[09:52] <zsombi> that also makes sense...
[10:05] <timp> oSoMoN: when you have time, can you have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-calendar-app/monthViewHeight/+merge/165189 ?
[10:17] <om26er> gusch, please review this when you have the time: https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/gallery-app/fix_touch_failing_ap_tests/+merge/165327
[10:17] <gusch> om26er: ok
[10:17] <om26er> fixes all tests on touch, except for the one we talked yesterday.
[10:24] <oSoMoN> timp: approved
[10:24] <timp> oSoMoN: great, thanks!
[10:24] <timp> oSoMoN: will it be merged automatically?
[10:24] <oSoMoN> timp: yes, it should
[10:25] <timp> okay.
[10:26] <oSoMoN> gusch: is the autopilot failure in https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-translations/+merge/165179 related to the changes introduced by the MR ?
[10:26] <gusch> oSoMoN: let me check ...
[10:29] <gusch> oSoMoN: no, not realated to the changes in the MR, but gallery seems to have lots of randomly failing tests lately :(
[10:29] <gusch> om26er: can you take a look at that issue? ^
[10:31] <oSoMoN> gusch: I approved the MR, feel free to top-approve yourself once the autopilot tests pass
[10:33] <om26er> gusch, oSoMoN its again a timing issue with jenkins, this time its not able to click on the edit item due to slowness in jenkins. I bet a re-run will pass it.
[10:33] <om26er> I am looking at how to fix this one, my other branch also fixes a bunch of timing issues
[10:34] <gusch> om26er: I commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/gallery-app/fix_touch_failing_ap_tests/+merge/165327
[10:36] <gusch> oSoMoN: thx - I hope we can resolve the test issues quickly
[10:42] <zsombi> Saviq: hei, can you check whether is this still valid for you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1166127
[10:42] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1166127 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "InverseMouseArea without sensingArea doesn't work" [High,Confirmed]
[10:49] <Saviq> zsombi, valid on device
[10:49] <Saviq> zsombi, trying to upgrade now
[10:50] <Saviq> zsombi, no upgrades to be seen, so yeah, still valid on the device for me
[10:50] <Saviq> zsombi, btw, we'll need an InverseTouchArea, too
[10:51] <zsombi> Saviq: gotcha... most likely you need to add a wish item to SDK then :)
[10:51] <Saviq> zsombi, yeah, will do
[10:52] <Saviq> zsombi, I'll try a new image, too
[10:52] <timp> maybe we need an InverseItem
[10:52] <zsombi> Saviq: I guess you'd need it for undefined touch points, right?
[10:52] <timp> and then the MouseArea can anchors.fill: inverseItem
[10:53] <zsombi> timp: Saviq: asking the IMA problem as I cannot see it anymore on the desktop...
[10:53] <Saviq> zsombi, we're starting to distinguish between touch and mouse interaction
[10:53] <Saviq> zsombi, yeah, it's fine on the desktop, not so on deviec
[10:53] <zsombi> Saviq: kewl...:)
[10:54] <Saviq> zsombi, so we need to look at distinguishing in Inverse*, too
[10:54] <zsombi> Saviq: that's also weird... as the rootObject is getting updated once the QQuickVoiew statusChanged() is triggered...
[11:30] <Saviq> zsombi, it's fine in image 133
[11:31] <zsombi> Saviq: so there was some "dust" in between then? weird...
[11:31] <Saviq> zsombi, I must've not had the most recent toolkit on my device
[11:32] <Saviq> zsombi, aaargh, wrong
[11:32] <Saviq> zsombi, still bad
[11:32] <zsombi> Saviq: hmm... weird... still doesn't get the sensingArea?
[11:33] <Saviq> zsombi, yup, null
[11:33] <Saviq> zsombi, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5693414/
[11:34] <Saviq> zsombi, prints null
[11:34] <Saviq> zsombi, and then some ++++++++ when you tap
[11:34] <Saviq> no ------------
[11:35] <zsombi> damn!...
[12:46] <zsombi> Saviq: weird... I have the code from the pastebin in the test case (with not having sensingArea set at all) and the test passes...
[12:46] <zsombi> Saviq: on the device, with 133 + my branch, which is nothing more than the trunk + test case
[13:03] <Saviq> zsombi, did you try simply with qmlscene on the device?
[13:03] <zsombi> Saviq: I'm on that now, however with the test case it doesn't fail...
[20:14] <coder2> any python quickly  developer here?
[20:15] <coder2> how to add a filechooser to a menu item using glade


[13:53] <yaronr_> Hi everyone. Can anyone please explain / share a reference how I could install Docker as part of cloud-config? (running Amazon Linux 2)
[14:16] <Odd_Bloke> yaronr_: What source are you looking to install Docker from?
[14:22] <yaronr_> Odd_Bloke: I finally solved the issue. I used "packages: docker.io" and should have used "packages: docker"
[14:24] <sblk> Hi! I'm playing around with cloud-init and VirtualBox
[14:25] <sblk> I have some problems, for example, the instance is not taking the gateway
[14:26] <sblk> This is the meta-data file:
[14:26] <sblk> instance-id: iid-zpq
[14:26] <sblk> network-interfaces: |
[14:26] <sblk>   iface enp0s3 inet static
[14:26] <sblk>   address <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:26] <sblk>   network <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:26] <sblk>   netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:26] <sblk>   broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:26] <sblk>   gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:26] <sblk>   dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:26] <sblk> local-hostname: techier-glossa
[14:27] <sblk> The instance takes the IP addres but not the gateway
[14:28] <sblk> Also, I have these error messages:
[14:28] <sblk> cloud-init status --long
[14:28] <sblk> status: error
[14:28] <sblk> time: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 08:40:46 +0000
[14:28] <sblk> detail:
[14:28] <sblk> ('scripts-user', RuntimeError('Runparts: 1 failures (runcmd) in 1 attempted commands'))
[14:28] <sblk> ('ssh-authkey-fingerprints', OSError(5, 'Input/output error'))
[14:28] <sblk> ('keys-to-console', OSError(5, 'Input/output error'))
[14:29] <sblk> Any idea?
[14:30] <sblk> If you need more information from my part, tell me so
[14:37] <sblk> shame on me, forget it about gateway...
[14:38] <sblk> I was mistyping <IP_ADDRESS> instead of <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:39] <sblk> Beyond of that... what about cloud-init errors?
[14:42] <Odd_Bloke> yaronr_: Glad to hear it. :)
[14:42] <Odd_Bloke> sblk: If you're pasting multiple lines, please use a pastebin (e.g. https://paste.ubuntu.com/).  And if you could pastebin /var/log/cloud-init.log, that will make debugging your issues much easier. :)
[14:43] <sblk> Odd_Bloke thanks! nice suggestion :)
[14:50] <sblk> Here is my /var/log/cloud-init.log:
[14:50] <sblk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sw8sWvgBsc/
[15:33] <sblk> How to know what should be on meta-data or in user-data? For example, I've found examples with network configuration on metadata...
[15:37] <SoftwareSheriff1> is there an exhaustive list of things allowed in the cloud config file? i see a bunch of blogs saying `shell` is an attribute on `user`s but there isn't any example at this link that has `shell` in it: https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/examples.html
[15:45] <falcojr> SoftwareSheriff1: I believe you're looking for this page, https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/format.html
[15:45] <falcojr> a #cloud-config file is only one type of file supported
[15:46] <falcojr> Notice on that page, the "User-Data Script" allows you to specify a shell script
[15:47] <falcojr> if you still want the cloud-config file, but also want to run arbitrary shell scripts, you're probably looking for "runcmd"
[15:47] <falcojr> https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html?highlight=runcmd#runcmd
[15:48] <SoftwareSheriff1> ah; the thing i was looking for was a way to set a user's interactive shell, not run a script at startup
[15:49] <falcojr> oh, whoops, I misread that "shell" remark
[15:50] <falcojr> shell is a property of users
[15:50] <falcojr> https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html?highlight=shell#users-and-groups
[15:59] <SoftwareSheriff1> ah, thank you! no idea why i wasn't able to find this on that page myself lol
[16:16] <andrewbogott> Is anyone around who could merge my cla patch?  https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/776
[16:17] <andrewbogott> (or, alternately, is this the developer channel for cloud-init or is that someplace else?)
[16:27] <falcojr> you're in the right place :)
[16:28] <falcojr> some of us are currently in meetings, but can take a look later today
[17:26] <andrewbogott> no rush!
[19:53] <andrewbogott> thanks falcojr


[02:43] <xnox> bdmurray, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10262719 ScyllaDB: Drop-in replacement for Cassandra that claims to be 10x faster (scylladb.com)
[02:43] <xnox> do we need/want that for the whoopsie / daisy stuff?
[02:46] <xnox> http://blog.octo.com/en/scylladb-vs-cassandra-towards-a-new-myth/
[03:00] <mwhudson> i don't understand the process for making network config changes via netplan after boot
[03:01] <mwhudson> you edit files in /etc/netplan, run /lib/netplan/generate... and restart something?
[03:04] <mwhudson> systemctl try-restart systemd-networkd.service i guess
[03:04] <mwhudson> slangasek: does this sound right? ^
[03:06] <slangasek> mwhudson: I was under the impression you didn't need to restart networkd because it would read its config dynamically, but ICBW
[03:06] <mwhudson> oh ok
[03:06] <mwhudson> that would seem kinda un-systemd, but certainly useful
[03:17] <sarnold> it'd suck to coordinate changes to N interfaces that way though; you'd have to stage them all outside the directory and move them in in one go, and hope to hell that you could win the race..
[03:18] <mwhudson> google suggests that you have to restart it
[03:18] <Unit193> systemd is not dynamic, you have to manually reload for it to pickup changes to service files.  Chances of it re-reading here would be minimal.
[06:07] <cpaelzer> good morning
[07:25] <tjaalton> mardy: ping? is mesa in xenial-proposed now good for arm64?
[07:25] <tjaalton> mardy: because I need to start another sru asap
[07:28] <mardy> tjaalton: hi! I'm not sure how to test it...
[07:28] <mardy> tjaalton: the issue was found when trying to build some package on the citrain
[07:29] <mardy> tjaalton: I wonder, should I make a citrain request just to test this?
[07:30] <tjaalton> mardy: perhaps?
[07:30] <mardy> tjaalton: uh... and how can I tell the citrain to pull from xenial-proposed?
[07:31] <mardy> sil2100: any idea? ^
[07:31] <tjaalton> sil2100: speaking of which, xorg-server in xenial needs verification
[07:57] <ginggs> dholbach: around?
[07:57] <dholbach> ginggs, yes
[08:06] <sil2100> mardy: hey! All citrain silos by default use -proposed
[08:07] <sil2100> tjaalton: ok, I can verify our part there, thanks for the reminder
[08:07] <tjaalton> sil2100: excellent, thanks
[08:09] <mardy> sil2100, tjaalton: ok, so I'll prepare a silo to test it
[10:46]  * LocutusOfBorg just uploaded sbuild in yakkety, lets see how many things broke!
[12:18] <tjaalton> hum, deleted a preinstalled windows partition and now booting xenial takes 60s extra
[12:35] <infinity> tjaalton: ... wat?
[12:37] <tjaalton> well, it's been bugging me for a while on this machine.. uefi, installed ubuntu, deleted (corrupted) win8 install and recovery partitions, and now booting up takes quite a while. there's a 60s timeout somewhere
[12:38] <seb128> is that partition still listed in fstab?
[12:38] <tjaalton> tried creating new partitions on them, next I'll put an fs there
[12:38] <tjaalton> no
[12:41] <seb128> tjaalton, go to grub, edit boot line to include systemd.debug-shell to the kernel cmdline, boot, ctrl-alt-f9 and systemctl status
[12:41] <seb128> that should tell you what jos is waiting
[12:41] <seb128> likely timeouting on a mount unit
[12:41] <seb128> but unsure where it's coming from if it's not fstab
[12:41] <tjaalton> ok, thx
[12:41] <seb128> yw
[12:41] <seb128> jos->job
[13:03] <tjaalton> the shell started after lightdm was up
[13:10] <seb128> tjaalton, the shell?
[13:10] <tjaalton> debug shell, vt9 was empty until too late
[13:10] <seb128> like you couldn't go to vt9 during that 1 min hang?
[13:10] <seb128> weird :-/
[13:11] <tjaalton> I'll try again
[13:11] <seb128> tjaalton, try to systemd-analyze blame ?
[13:12] <ogra_> doesnt that just print "pitti" all the time ? :P
[13:12] <seb128> good that he's on holidays ;-)
[13:12] <tjaalton> that's git blame :)
[13:12] <ogra_> (sometimes "lennart" if it is an upstream issue )
[13:17] <tjaalton> blame shows apparmor on the top with ~1.5s
[13:17] <tjaalton> state is degraded, three failed units
[13:20] <seb128> which ones?
[13:23] <LocutusOfBorg> mdeslaur hi, willing to sponsor a curl merge?
[13:23] <LocutusOfBorg> or anybody else
[13:23] <mdeslaur> LocutusOfBorg: sure
[13:24] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks, grabbing it now from incoming
[13:24] <LocutusOfBorg> lots of cve fixes
[13:26] <LocutusOfBorg> " Drop dependencies not in main:"
[13:26] <LocutusOfBorg> is that still needed after the universe archive reorg?
[13:26]  * LocutusOfBorg is not sure anymore
[13:27] <rbasak> The change is that you can build depend on stuff in universe.
[13:27] <rbasak> THere is no change to the rules about binary dependencies.
[13:28] <LocutusOfBorg> so, while I can pull from universe on B-D, I can't runtime-depend on it
[13:28] <LocutusOfBorg> right?
[13:29] <rbasak> Right. Though this means that you could split and add a binary package that lives in universe and then depends on stuff in universe. That wasn't possible before.
[13:32] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[13:35] <LocutusOfBorg> I re-enabled stunnel4, but the openssh removal is still needed
[13:35] <LocutusOfBorg> mdeslaur, https://launchpad.net/%7Ecostamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+sourcepub/6772977/+listing-archive-extra :)
[13:35] <LocutusOfBorg> I hope that dsc is ok for you?
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> or mdeslaur there is also an openssl merge FYU
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> FYI
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> https://launchpad.net/%7Ecostamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/costamagnagianfranco-ppa/+sourcepub/6765471/+listing-archive-extra
[13:42] <tjaalton> seb128: how do I tell?
[13:42] <tjaalton> systemctl status doesn't show
[13:42] <tjaalton> ah, just systemctl
[13:43] <seb128> tjaalton, systemctl list-units --failed
[13:46] <mdeslaur> LocutusOfBorg: looking at curl now, thanks
[13:47] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks to you
[13:48] <tjaalton> seb128: ok, systemd-modules-load.service, the other two were for nfs mounts
[13:49] <tjaalton> and no wifi before login
[13:49] <seb128> tjaalton, what does systemctl status -l systemd-modules-load.service says?
[13:50] <tjaalton> main process exited... failure
[13:53] <tjaalton> [    9.723679] mei_me 0000:00:16.0: wait hw ready failed
[13:53] <tjaalton> could be related
[14:01] <tjaalton> nope
[15:14] <mdeslaur> LocutusOfBorg: curl uploaded, thanks
[15:15] <mdeslaur> LocutusOfBorg: I'll take a look at the openssl merge in a few days, I need to get the fips patches tested
[15:45] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks mdeslaur I admit I'm not 100% sure about it
[15:45] <LocutusOfBorg> but there is an open merge bug where I explained my worries
[15:48] <smoser> anyone else seen errors in sbuild environment due to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6033599/oserror-38-errno-38-with-multiprocessing ?
[15:48] <smoser> i'm running flake8 (python3 -m flake8)
[15:49] <smoser> and getting a stack trace due to http://paste.ubuntu.com/22042094/
[15:50] <smoser> oh. i see.
[15:50] <smoser> i had /dev/shm commented out because of bug 1438942
[16:28] <rharper> hallyn: around ? wanted to chat about SRU for  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu/+bug/1541902 ; looking at the debdiff.  it's a bump to 2.6 (merge from debian) and then the upstream patch
[16:45] <hallyn> rharper: sru into xenial?
[16:45] <rharper> yeah
[16:46] <rharper> that's where they ultimately want it; so we likely need to push it into yakkety first, and then SRU the bump and merge, right ?
[16:46] <rharper> this is the GPU stuff for ppc64
[17:38] <Mirv> I finally have my Chromebook (CYAN) booting yakkety from its internal hard drive. things that don't work are keyboard (need to use external), touchscreen and sound.
[22:36] <juliank> something is still wrong with apport tests, the new apt upload brought it from failures=1,errors=8 to failures=1,errrors=1 - but I have exactly no idea why the same code works those 7 tests now, but fails in one...
[23:29] <juliank> Mmh, I should have apport's testsuite fixed now, so APT should go in tomorrow


  Nobody gets out alive anyway.
[00:44] <ChaoticXSinZ> cbx randquote
[00:44] <herroworld> The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on.
[00:44] <ChaoticXSinZ> cbx randquote
[00:44] <herroworld> Men are like bank accounts. Without a lot of money they don't generate a lot of interest.
[01:59] <vmische> are there still regular java team meetings?
[06:37] <persia> vmische, Thursdays at 14:00 UTC
[06:38] <vmische> thanks
[15:10] <Koon> doko: would you agree to be named as approver for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/maven-packaging-support ?
[15:17] <doko> Koon: is this for jaunty?
[15:17] <persia> Decidedly for jaunty.
[15:17] <Koon> doko: the plan would be to try to have at least minimum packages for jaunty, yes
[15:19] <doko> I assume I should do that ...
[15:20] <Koon> doko: cool :)
[15:21] <Koon> note: that's clearly a hack, but hopefully it is the less worse hack possible.
[15:44] <persia> kaaloo, Have you seen the latest updates to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/maven-packaging-support ?
[15:44] <persia> Are you still investigating the proxy, or have you given that up?
[19:44] <Bliss> che bell'argomento....i miei complimenti....:-[
[19:56] <Bliss> Come devo fare per istallarlo?
[20:04] <persia> !it
[20:05] <Bliss> Thanks!