[00:00] <nibsa1242b> taso: you can't expect it to run super fast... what is your host OS? and what processor do you have?
[00:00] <sexcopter> zash: sorry, got called away from the laptop for a moment. i have to do dinner now, but i'll look into it some more. thanks for your help!
[00:00] <Nalf> Did you use unetbootin with your USB, Nibsa?
[00:00] <zash> and i have to sleep
[00:00] <zash> :(
[00:00] <taso> nibsa1242b: host is Windows XP, 3GB Memory, 2.4ghz processor
[00:01] <nibsa1242b> Nalf: I used the auto install to flash for the thumbdrive; and booted straight from the USB HD from the bios for the install from an external HD
[00:01] <nibsa1242b> taso: which processor, it makes a difference
[00:02] <FrozenFire> Is there a way to change application font colours, without changing themes? Using a dark theme is causing my gedit to highlight the currently-selected line as black, making it impossible to read the selected line. It also uses the same colour for text as the background of Nautilus.
[00:02] <Nalf> I used http://www.pendrivelinux.com/live-ubuntu-810-usb-persistent-install-windows/ this, but the installer locked up.
[00:02] <nguyen> Hi!
[00:02] <cactusfrog> i cant watch youtube videos despite installing flash
[00:02] <taso> nibsa1242b: Intel Centrino Duo Core Pro
[00:03] <cactusfrog> i did everything correctly typed sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree in terminal and even restarted firefox but i still can't watch youtube videos
[00:03] <mbord> no body there ?
[00:03] <nibsa1242b> taso: does the proc support Intel VT? is it enabled?
[00:03] <jrib> FrozenFire: one way would be to edit your theme yourself
[00:03] <nguyen>           why cant u watch youtube its fun to watch.
[00:03] <mbord> hoi allemeel
[00:03] <cactusfrog> because it says i dont have the latist flash player
[00:04] <FrozenFire> jrib: Do you know where I can find theme files? There is no way to set font colours under the Appearance applet.
[00:04] <nguyen> bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:04]  * FrozenFire stabs nguyen
[00:04] <cactusfrog> so no ideas?
[00:04] <mbord> no body can dutch here  ?
[00:04] <oCean_> mbord: the dutch are in #ubuntu-nl
[00:04] <FrozenFire> cactusfrog: Obvious question is, have you tried restarting? When using proprietary software, it's often necessary to restart.
[00:04] <taso> nibsa1242b: I believe so, what does that mean and how can I check?
[00:04] <cactusfrog> anyone here know what they are doing??
[00:04] <jrib> FrozenFire: art.gnome.org has a tutorial on creating themes.  The themes are in /usr/share/themes/ or ~/.themes if it's one you installed yourself.  If you want to modify one from /usr/share/themes, copy it to ~/.themes and work there
[00:05] <Nalf> Nope. ^_^
[00:05] <Nalf> Jrib, is pretty knowledgeable.
[00:05] <Zeroyez> how do i set permissions on /var/www so apache can read stuff from it, i can't ask anywhere else because of root ban
[00:05] <mbord> is er ook iemand die nederlands kan ?
[00:05] <oCean_> mbord: join #ubuntu-nl
[00:05] <cactusfrog> ok  well almost any ubantu user should be able to answer my question
[00:06] <swegner> I'm trying to boot jaunty from a LiveUSB (created from the "USB Startup Disc Creator"), but I don't see the option at the boot screen.  I only see "Install Ubuntu", "Check disc for defects", "Test memory", "Boot from first hard drive", "Rescue a broken system".  Is it not possible to simply boot from the USB?  (I'm not sure if this is jaunty-related or not, I can't remember what the intrepid liveusb was like)
[00:06] <lepine> My X just borked. I rebooted after some autoupdates, for which i didn't reboot for perhaps 2 weeks ... and now i'm stuck using the vesa driver ...
[00:06] <jrib> cactusfrog: you need to be more patient.  Pastebin the contents of the page you get when you visit "about:plugins" in your address bar in firefox
[00:06] <fearful> cactusfrog, sudo chmod -R 755 /media/cdrom0 didn't work?
[00:06] <mbord> how i hafe now work whit ubuntu or lunix
[00:06] <lepine> nvidia-xconfig doesn't seem to have worked
[00:06] <lepine> what can/should i do?
[00:06] <Pollywog> cactusfrog: maybe but I came in too late to read it
[00:06] <nibsa1242b> taso: it means it runs things faster when they are being virtualized , I'm not sure how to check, I don't often use windows, and I've only ever used QEMU for virtualization.
[00:07] <jrib> lepine: what happens when you try to use the nvidia driver?
[00:07] <nibsa1242b> taso: anyhow my understanding is that it should be run 80% to 10% of the speed you would expect natively if everything is set up correctly.
[00:07] <cactusfrog> i dont get why i cant watch yotube videos just says  http://pastebin.com/d4ea1bd68 and i have installed the flash player through terminal wtf!
[00:07] <m3gaman> I installed GProftpd, when I attempt to run the GUI I receive the following error message: Failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory)...any suggestions?
[00:07] <kingtut> i have  bought a new sound card sound blaster audigy se some program i have other no sound can someone tell me how to config the sound card
[00:07] <jrib> cactusfrog: help me help you...
[00:07] <cactusfrog> pl
[00:07] <cactusfrog> ok
[00:07] <fearful> cactusfrog, do you have flash-nonfree
[00:07] <jrib> !who | cactusfrog
[00:07] <kingtut> can someone help
[00:08] <Nalf> Swegner: Is there no live version for jaunty? That would be my guess.. It's not an official release yet, right?
[00:08] <Flannel> swegner: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[00:08] <Dillizar> i have installed the nvidia drivers but i cant have more than 640*480 pls help
[00:08] <cactusfrog> ubottu: i am not speaking to someone iparticular
[00:08] <Nalf> There you go, Swegner. good luck!
[00:08] <swegner> Nalf: I don't think there needs to be a live version... I simply used the alpha5 ISO to burn the liveusb
[00:09] <lepine> jrib: well, it seems to still be using the vesa driver ... i'll paste my config ... i might have done it wrong. http://pastebin.ca/1356954
[00:09] <Pollywog> cactusfrog: Firefox?  I had a problem with this in Hardy but it has worked since I updated (apt-get upgrade) about 2 weeks ago
[00:09] <cactusfrog> fearful: yes i have flash nofree
[00:09] <swegner> Flannel: Thanks, I asked in there before, but we weren't sure if it was jaunty-related.  Just wanted to check here as well
[00:09] <fearful> cactusfrog, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree mozilla-plugin-gnash
[00:09] <jrib> lepine: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[00:09] <ZeZu> flash videos worked previously, but not now,  i think ubuntu repos. installed a version of flash nonfree on top of the one i manually installed,  how can i figure out whats going on ?
[00:09] <cactusfrog> fearful: ok all try that ty
[00:09] <Nalf> Swegner: I just usb-booted with live option in 8.10 so..
[00:09] <ZeZu> I'm running x64 version of ubuntu
[00:09] <Pollywog> I have adobe-flashplugin
[00:09] <jrib> ZeZu: about:plugins in firefox will tell you what is getting used
[00:09] <Pollywog> not the nonfree one
[00:10] <Pollywog> and it works
[00:10] <m3gaman> nevermind, I figured it out...had to install something called menu using apt-get...
[00:10] <nibsa1242b> lepine: what did you use to install the drivers?
[00:10] <Pollywog> cactusfrog: I think this can be fixed
[00:10] <swegner> Nalf: ok, I thought I remembered being able to with intrepid as well.  I wonder if it's because I used the amd64 ISO..
[00:10] <fearful> Pollywog, cactusfrog they both work just as well I use flashplugin-nonfree and am doing fine
[00:10] <Pollywog> fearful: k
[00:10] <Pollywog> good to know nonfree works too
[00:10] <Zeroyez> ugh, can someone please tell me how to change my irc ident on pidgin so it doesn't say root without having to create another user and do a bunch of annoying crap
[00:10] <fearful> cactusfrog, but which ever you prefer
[00:10] <jrib> Zeroyez: why are you ircing as root anyway?
[00:11] <lepine> jrib: it mentions vesa alot ... i haven't seen what looks like an error yet ...
[00:11] <jrib> lepine: pastebin :)
[00:11] <Dillizar> i have installed the nvidia drivers but i cant have more than 640*480 pls help
[00:11] <Pollywog> but a few weeks ago it all of a sudden did not work in Firefox and I had to use Flock browser
[00:11] <jrib> !fixres | Dillizar
[00:11] <nibsa1242b> Dillizar: what did you use to install the drivers?
[00:11] <Pollywog> to view Youtube videos
[00:11] <Zeroyez> because i use a super minimal installation of ubuntu that only logs me in as root and doesn't have non-root logins
[00:11] <jrib> !enter | Pollywog
[00:11] <fearful> Pollywog, reeally I've never experienced any problems
[00:11] <Nalf> swegner: I booted live from amd64. ^_^
[00:11] <cactusfrog> fearful: thanks a lot :)
[00:11] <jrib> Zeroyez: that's just plain stupid
[00:11] <ZeZu> jrib: there are two  versions of shockwave flash player installed
[00:11] <fearful> cactusfrog, your welcome
[00:11] <Nalf> swegner: I used http://www.pendrivelinux.com/live-ubuntu-810-usb-persistent-install-windows/ that, though.
[00:12] <jdolan> is there any way to get sox to support .ogg without recompiling it myself?
[00:12] <fearful> Pollywog, maybe you should give the nonfree a try ;)
[00:12] <Zeroyez> jrib: dun care, has no effect on me except the stupid root ban on irc
[00:12] <jdolan> (what is the point of packaging sox without [m]any codecs?)
[00:12] <swegner> Nalf: ok, I'll assume it's a jaunty problem then..
[00:12] <Pollywog> fearful: I will do so if I have a problem again, but it works now
[00:12] <lepine> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/1356956
[00:12] <jrib> Zeroyez: well the right solution here is to not irc as root.  And to create a regular account.  Good luck with your issue
[00:12] <Dillizar> nope restarting the X doesnt help
[00:12] <Nalf> Swegner: Good luck. I'm going to attempt to install myself now! Bye bye.
[00:13] <ZeZu> jrib: i disabled one of them, but still get a grey rect instead of a vid
[00:13] <Zeroyez> jrib: mirc on wine it is, then
[00:13] <m3gaman> here is a quick question...say I install an application and it creates an ICON for it in the applications menu...when I do a apt-get remove (said application) it does not remove the associated icon within the applications menu.  Is this normal? or should I be uninstall my applications in a different manner/
[00:13] <jrib> Zeroyez: it's actually a trivial thing in pidgin iirc.  But like I said you really really should have a non-root account to work with
[00:14] <fearful> what's -J and +J? flags
[00:14] <jrib> lepine: line 1714.  Usually the first thing I would try is purging all of the nvidia* stuff and linux-restricted* and reinstalling from scratch
[00:15] <jrib> fearful: google: freenode using the network
[00:15] <fearful> jrib, ok thanks
[00:15] <lepine> jrib: note taken. Trying that now
[00:15] <jrib> ZeZu: feel free to pastebin but I'll back in 15minutes.  Someone else might help you in the mean time
[00:16] <rww> !modes > fearful
[00:16] <fearful> rww, don't think that was the command ;)
[00:18] <brandon_> how do i download .tar.gz files from terminel?
[00:18] <sebsebseb> wget
[00:18] <fearful> brandon_, wget command
[00:18] <sebsebseb> !wget
[00:18] <trapline91> fearful, K3B didn't fix the problem :(
[00:19] <ichem> what can i do here?
[00:19] <fearful> trapline91, no errors or anything?
[00:19] <kyle___> greetings. I'm trying to use TV-Out on my laptop, which seems to work, but I can't move all of a window from the LCD to the TV- I'm left with, oh, maybe 100 pixels always on the LCD.  Ideas?
[00:19] <sebsebseb> ichem: get help for stuff with Ubuntu
[00:19] <trapline91> fearful, nope noen
[00:19] <trapline91> none*
[00:19] <brandon_> and how do i Un Tar them
[00:19] <wolter> hey kinja-sheep
[00:19] <sebsebseb> !tar
[00:19] <wolter> sebsebseb...
[00:19] <zardoz> Greetings - I cannot figure out where the system calls default applications from - several of my apps are looking for example, for the default browser which is set to FireFox, however, my apps all bitch about "%u not found" - suggestions? ideas? TIA
[00:19] <sebsebseb> wolter...
[00:19] <fearful> trapline91, I would try just downloading a copy from a different server but I don't know you tried two already, try command line burning or nautilus?
[00:19] <wolter> sebsebseb, oh hey, i resolved, with help from crdlb, my screen tearing problem
[00:19] <brandon_> i mean how do i un-tar them in terminal
[00:19] <fearful> trapline91, is it a re-writable?
[00:19] <wolter> sebsebseb, =D
[00:20] <sebsebseb> wolter: who is crdlib?
[00:20] <wolter> sebsebseb, a genius..
[00:20] <trapline91> fearful, its a re-writable drive
[00:20] <wolter> sebsebseb, you should now by now.
[00:20] <wolter> know*
[00:20] <technologiclee> tar xvf name.tar
[00:20] <zardoz> @brandon: You use tar : tar -xzvf <filename>
[00:20] <fearful> wolter, tar -jxvf filename.tar.gz
[00:21] <stewart_> brandon_: tar zxvf name.tar.bz
[00:21] <fearful> trapline91, maybe thats a problem, try burning on a writable only I had a problem like that
[00:21] <brandon_> so it would be tar -jxvf `gameserv-1.3.5.tar.gz'
[00:21] <wolter> fearful, wha?
[00:21] <trapline91> fearful, I am burning on a writable only
[00:21] <sebsebseb> brandon_: you can also do it graphicalley
[00:21] <brandon_> how>
[00:21] <stewart_> brandon_: try zxvf
[00:21] <sebsebseb> brandon_: just right click on the tar and  do extract here for example
[00:22] <trapline91> fearful, the drive can re-write but the cd's im using can't
[00:22] <lazukars> How do you install a .tar application
[00:22] <technologiclee> gunzip name.gz
[00:22] <fearful> trapline91, oh I see, did you choose burn CD image
[00:22] <brandon_> do i need to keep the ` and ' in the file
[00:22] <trapline91> fearful, yes
[00:22] <stewart_> bang bang gunzip
[00:22] <fearful> trapline91, not DVD option
[00:22] <trapline91> fearful, cd option
[00:22] <sebsebseb> brandon_: by the way make sure your tar is from a good source, because there could be bad sources with something slightly malicious for Linux in tar format
[00:22] <trapline91> fearful, I have always had a problem with burning iso's with ubuntu
[00:22] <fearful> trapline91, well I don't know re-download from a new server?
[00:22] <sebsebseb> !iso
[00:22] <trapline91> fearful, They never burn
[00:22] <zardoz> @brandon: the switch "j" is used for bzip archives (.bz) and the "z" switch for Gzip archives (.gz)
[00:23] <brandon_> its from sourceforge
[00:23] <fearful> sebsebseb, that wouldn't help for a Live CD
[00:23] <brandon_> all im asking is do i need to keep the ` and ' when i try to untar the file
[00:23] <trapline91> fearful, Know of any windows burning software I could emulate?
[00:23] <brandon_> :/
[00:23] <trapline91> fearful, well not emulate but run under wine
[00:23] <fearful> trapline91, I haven't used windows in ages :S
[00:23] <wolter> trapline91, why?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> trapline91: imgburn
[00:23] <fearful> trapline91, Nero?
[00:24] <wolter> trapline91, did your burner work on windows?
[00:24] <trapline91> yea
[00:24] <Dillizar> i cant have bigger resolution than 640*480 can anybody help me pls my eyes are bleeding
[00:24] <trapline91> worked great with windows
[00:24] <wolter> !who | trapline91
[00:24] <wolter> trapline91, well, when was the last time you checked?
[00:24] <trapline91> wolter, checked what
[00:24] <DASPRiD> Dillizar, get a monitor/gfx-card which supports higher resolutions then :)
[00:25] <wolter> trapline91, that the burner worked
[00:25]  * Dillizar slaps DASPRiD
[00:25] <fearful> trapline91, http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[00:25] <DASPRiD> Dillizar, sorry, but your description didnt contain any actual problem :P
[00:26] <trapline91> wolter, It works when I burn files but cd images though
[00:26] <zardoz> @trapline - if you're familiar with NERO - Ahead, the mfg, now has a Linux version - otherwise, I find K3B to be the "easiest" to use
[00:26] <MK13> Dillzar: what kind of gfx card do you have?
[00:26] <sebsebseb> trapline91: isorecorder makes it so the default  cd and dvd burning stuff in XP and Vista  can also do ISO, however imgburn is :d
[00:26] <Dillizar> DASPRiD: well it use to work but now NOT
[00:26] <[Au]> erver irc.webchat.org
[00:26] <Dillizar> !past
[00:26] <Dillizar> !paste
[00:26] <trapline91> sebsebseb, I'm downloading imgburn now to see if it fixes the problem
[00:26] <sebsebseb> trapline91: iso recorder heh,  these days I would use imgburn instead, well get others to, since I don't do ISO's in Windows anymore
[00:27] <MK13> Dillizar: try and update your video card drivers
[00:27] <lukanov> guys
[00:27] <pmcclelland> has anyone else had problems mounting vista cifs shares?
[00:27] <trapline91> kind of sucks though if I really have to use a windows app to burn images :(
[00:27] <sebsebseb> that last message was  meant to be sent to  you   fearful
[00:27] <lukanov> tell me theme for ubuntu that makes start menu like those in MACs ?
[00:28] <sebsebseb> trapline91: stuff in Linux should work
[00:28] <Jena> join #zandardnd
[00:28] <Jena> fail!
[00:28] <MaFrei> hello, ive got ab strange problem with my LAn und xubuntu and dont get help in the xubuntu-chanell. Ist it OK if i post this problem here?
[00:28] <mleger> Hello any sound people around?
[00:28] <Dillizar> MK13: i dont need to update them i just installed them
[00:28] <sebsebseb> !sound
[00:28] <mleger> !sound
[00:28] <pmcclelland> has anyone else had problems mounting vista cifs shares? I am getting memory allocation errors. Doesn't make any sense.
[00:28] <jumar> its okay MaFrei, whats your problem?
[00:28] <mleger> sebsebseb: Can you help me get the sound to work on hardy? I tried just about anything
[00:29] <MK13> Dillizar: then try re-installing :P
[00:29] <MaFrei> jumar: thanks. ok. i#ve got the problem that i dont have access via LAN on my Acer Aspiure One
[00:29] <sebsebseb> mleger: oh hardy ok uhmmmmmm
[00:29] <sebsebseb> mleger: could be that your having pulse audio issues
[00:29] <MaFrei> i hab configured the LAN via the networkmanager, also i had configured the LAN manually in the configuration file. The fun is that, if i configiure it manually, i can ping my network card but I#m not able to ping my LAN. Also funny is that the WLAN is functionning good.
[00:29] <jumar> searching...
[00:29] <MaFrei> Im also sure that it is no hardware defect, because when i rum my Acer via xubuntu Live-CD the LAN is working well. %The LAN is also working well with a newly installed Xubuntu, but afer a restard it is not functiuoning any more.
[00:29] <sebsebseb> mleger: why hardy and not  ibex by the way?
[00:29] <zardoz> So would anyone have any ideas as to why I keep getting "%u not found" when applications are trying to call an external browser?
[00:29] <MaFrei> i have copied the configuration from the Live-Cd System to my installed xubuntu but this also not solve my problem.
[00:29] <mleger> sebsebseb: I might. I didnt have pulse at all only alsa then someone helped me by installing pulse and still not working
[00:29] <fearful> sebsebseb, yea I said I haven't used winblows in ages, I wouldn't know :\ just trying to be helpful
[00:30] <mleger> sebsebseb: well I'm a noob who's trying to learn and heard hardy is more stable
[00:30] <MaFrei> there is also no error (asl i see?) and the Network manager (in automatic) configuratuion tells me that im connected to the LAN
[00:30] <trapline91> sebsebseb, well imgburn doesn't detect my burner
[00:30] <sebsebseb> mleger: hardy has more sound issues than ibex though
[00:30] <fearful> trapline91, are you on a virtual?
[00:30] <mleger> sebsebseb: should I upgrade? any issues with nvidia drivers in ibex?
[00:30] <nibsa1242b> sebsebseb: did your alsa work?
[00:30] <sebsebseb> mleger: depends on your card, how old is it?
[00:30] <trapline91> fearful, no using wine
[00:30] <MaFrei> well, i treid in networkmanager the DHCP and also the fixed IP. Also i configured the configuration file networks.conf with a fixed IP.
[00:30] <jumar> MaFrei, did you try shutting down cable first and just then connect with Lan, left clicking on the network icon?
[00:31] <mleger> sebsebseb: its new nvidia gforce 6500 I think
[00:31] <MaFrei> jumar: yes, also
[00:31] <fearful> trapline91, just to be clear wine ain't a emulator by the way, and it might be a problem running it on wine
[00:31] <sint> hey, my pidgin is broken and it tells me to update. but there is no new version in apt. anyone knows when the new version from pidgin website will be available?
[00:31] <_VIM_> ibex is way better than it was 4 months ago mleger
[00:31] <sebsebseb> nibsa1242b: I have never had major sound issues, and been with Ubuntu since second release,    my old computer died with edgy, then the others on this one
[00:31] <mleger> sebsebseb: but its supposed here
[00:31] <fearful> sint, getdeb.com
[00:31] <jumar> still searching...
[00:31] <sebsebseb> mleger: ok  should work fine in ibex then your graphics card
[00:31] <sebsebseb> mleger: pluse audio is default in hardy
[00:32] <trapline91> fearful, the problem was I didn't have my wine configuration set to my burner what an idiot i am lol
[00:32] <sebsebseb> mleger: you could try:  killall pulseaudio
[00:32] <nibsa1242b> sebsebseb: sry, I think I came late to the conversion. Thought you were having sound issues.
[00:32] <sint> fearful: ok, but if i download it there, it no longer seen from apt, isn't it?
[00:32] <jumar> try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne#Install%20Ubuntu%20Hardy%20Heron%20(8.04.1)%20on%20the%20Acer%20Aspire%20One
[00:32] <jumar> link
[00:32] <mleger> sebsebseb: tried it now still no sound. Do I need to reboot?
[00:32] <sebsebseb> mleger: nope
[00:32] <fearful> sint, um correct, but if you uninstall the new version in aptitude the old one will be displayed
[00:32] <sebsebseb> mleger: ok how  new is that hardy install? pretty new?
[00:32] <jrib> ZeZu: sort it out?
[00:33] <brandon_> now im getting errors
[00:33] <brandon_> brandon@ubuntu:~$ tar -zxvf gameserv.tar.gz
[00:33] <brandon_> tar: gameserv.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[00:33] <brandon_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[00:33] <brandon_> tar: Child returned status 2
[00:33] <brandon_> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[00:33] <FloodBot2> brandon_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <brandon_> brandon@ubuntu:~$
[00:33] <nibsa1242b> sebsebseb: I've had audio issues since 7.10 with Ubuntu. Right now two computers are using ALSA. I just got ALSA working on the third, but I know what the problem was with pulse, so I'm going to fix that.
[00:33] <MK13> lukanov: u still there?
[00:33] <MaFrei> jumar: ok, i will have a look
[00:33] <mleger> sebsebseb: installed one month ago
[00:33] <sebsebseb> mleger: upgrading to Ibex probably won't make things worse
[00:33] <fearful> brandon_, you have to put the correct path too /home/user/gameserv.tar.gz for example
[00:33] <sebsebseb> mleger: also next Ubuntu at the end of April
[00:34] <mikeshollen> How do I tell an application I want it to launch as root from the GUI?
[00:34] <mleger> sebsebseb: ok going to upgrade now and see what happens. will Intel HD driver be supported out of the box?
[00:34] <jrib> mikeshollen: what application?
[00:34] <brandon_> i loaded it from the terminal
[00:34] <sebsebseb> mleger: not sure
[00:34] <sint> fearful: hm, but there is no given date how long i have to wait for a common update in apt?
[00:34] <sebsebseb> mleger: one thing though
[00:34] <mikeshollen> avg
[00:34] <fearful> brandon_, yes but you have to cd to the directory or put the path
[00:34] <sebsebseb> mleger: if you go Ibex, you can't just downgrade back to Hardy
[00:34] <nibsa1242b> sebsebseb: what I've run into is that if pulse crashes, and you mute the sound, then the sound will stay muted on reboot - this bug here https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/274884
[00:34] <sebsebseb> mleger: wait a sec
[00:34] <Myrtti> mikeshollen: avg? what's that?
[00:35] <fearful> sint, yea, aptitude doesn't get updated that often, just download the one in getdeb works fine in intrepid
[00:35] <sint> fearful: i am not a big fan of doing things beside apt, if the software is in apt
[00:35] <mleger> sebsebseb: ?
[00:35] <sebsebseb> nibsa1242b: do you think   mleger should upgrade hardy to ibex or not?
[00:35] <fearful> sint, I did this, and working fine 2.5.5
[00:35] <mikeshollen> how can I ask an application to launch as root?
[00:35] <mikeshollen> so that I don't have to use terminal
[00:35] <fearful> mikeshollen, gksu
[00:35] <brandon_> no i downloaded it from the ubuntu website so i don't have the cd
[00:35] <sint> fearful: ok, thanks i'll try
[00:35] <sebsebseb> mleger: or you stay with hardy, and then you can have KDE 3  and 4 on the  same system no problem :d
[00:35] <Myrtti> mikeshollen: which application? avg? what's that?
[00:35] <fearful> mikeshollen, well it depends what
[00:35] <sebsebseb> mleger: with Ibex it's only KDE 4 :(
[00:36] <MaFrei> jumar: ah jea, i know this manual, i have used it fpr the WLAN. But for LAN there is nothing in then "LAN:full working"  :-(
[00:36] <jumar> mikeshollen: in terminal its sudo, if you want to run it like fearful said
[00:36] <fearful> Myrtti, avg is a windows anti-virus I'm almost sure my friends use it
[00:36] <mleger> sebsebseb: sorry I dont know what that means :(
[00:36] <nibsa1242b> sebsebseb: mleger I think ibex won't hurt, but I doubt it'll fix the audio problem. Does he have pulse installed now?
[00:36] <Myrtti> fearful: that's what I'm afraid of it is
[00:36] <fearful> jumar, if your running a GUI app as root you need gksu not sudo
[00:36] <sebsebseb> mleger: sudo apt-get install  pulseaudio
[00:36] <sebsebseb> mleger: try that
[00:36] <MK13> sebsebseb: my opinion is that ibex would work... the only thing is the support is shorter but it still lasts until jaunty :D
[00:36] <mleger> nibsa1242b: yes I do have it installed. Playing sound files shows sound output but nothing coming out of laptop speakers
[00:37] <m3gaman> yeah, AVG is a windows AntiVirus software...I use it on my windows box
[00:37] <fearful> mikeshollen, why would you want to run avg anyway
[00:37] <jumar> yeah, thats why what you wrote was more precise, sorry
[00:37] <mikeshollen> because I do
[00:37] <sebsebseb> mleger: ok you are new to Linux :D  you don't know about KDE?
[00:37] <v0lksman> how do you restart pulseaudio properly in intrepid?
[00:37] <bmoll8> mikeshollen: you're not making sense
[00:37] <Myrtti> mikeshollen: are you trying to run the windows antivirus program avg?
[00:37] <bmoll8> mikeshollen: you don't need antivirus software on ubuntu; this isn't windows
[00:37] <jumar> mikeshollen, are you guarding a windows server?
[00:37] <fearful> mikeshollen, well if its not a linux version of avg you need wine
[00:37] <mikeshollen> no, avg 7.5 is for linux
[00:37] <mleger> sebsebseb: no I understand its kubuntu right? different than gnome?\
[00:37] <mleger> sebsebseb: tried it but pulse is already installed so nothing new was installed
[00:37] <jrib> mikeshollen: are you running a mail server with windows clients or something?
[00:37] <sebsebseb> mleger: yes, but in Hardy you can have KDE3 the nice and mature and stable version, as well as KDE4 which is newer
[00:37] <fearful> mikeshollen, then gksu avg or I don't know the command really
[00:38] <Myrtti> !virus | mikeshollen
[00:38] <anom01y> is there any daemons out there that can switch the current user (x session) to another user (default user), after a period of time the computer has been idle ?
[00:38] <jumar> you dont have to be root to guard your system in that case
[00:38] <nibsa1242b> mleger: what do you see in alsamixer ?
[00:38] <sebsebseb> mleger: in Ibex you have to do nonsense to have both if it's even possible,   or   run  a hardy vm for KDE3   or some other distro
[00:38] <mikeshollen> Currently I'm running Wine, although I understand that it's a bit more bullet proof
[00:38] <jumar> what do you mean? i dont understand... mikeshollen
[00:38] <sebsebseb> mleger: I think you should try KDE3 and 4 hence why I was saying about that,  but  going back to the sound issue,  Ibex should be alright
[00:39] <sebsebseb> mleger: Ibex won't make things worse  I expect when it comes to sound
[00:39] <mleger> nibsal1242b: gnome alsa mixer says: Realtek ID 663
[00:39] <mikeshollen> How am I being so confusing?  I just want to run the program.  It's security software.  It needs to be run as root to update and scan properly.  I want to run it despite the fact that Linux doesn't have the same issues as Windows, because I run windows software through Wine.
[00:40] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: lol  ok
[00:40] <fearful> mikeshollen, I said gksu avg
[00:40] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen:  you can use a Linux anti virus program to  scan  a Linux install as well as Wine for Windows viruses
[00:40] <jumar> it wont make a mess thru wine, well its not 99% but it want, try firestarter instead, its in the repos
[00:40] <zeldarocks> should I update to 9.04?
[00:40] <mleger> nibsal1242b: trying to open alsamixergui gives an error message
[00:40] <trapline91> fearful, think I could just put ubuntu on my ipod and boot from that?
[00:40] <mikeshollen> sebsebseb: correct, and AVG is a linux antivirus
[00:40] <sebsebseb> zeldarocks: not yet,  the final release is not out yet
[00:40] <Myrtti> jumar: since when has *firestarter* done anything to *viruses*
[00:40] <zeldarocks> I mean the alpha 5
[00:40] <mleger> sebsebseb: ok I'm going to try to upgrade soon
[00:41] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: you don't need an antivirus really for wine though, Windows viruses don't tend to work properly in wine if at all
[00:41] <fearful> mikeshollen, exactly therefore it won't check for windows viruses on linux
[00:41] <sebsebseb> !upgrade |  mleger
[00:41] <jumar> alright, my fault, got lately no viruses, sorry again
[00:41] <jwulf|eee> does anyone know what's happening with compiz today?
[00:41] <mikeshollen> fearful: it was originally created for windows viruses, it will check for them because the c drive exists within the linux directories
[00:41] <zeldarocks> should I update to alpha 5?
[00:41] <jwulf|eee> i grabbed the latest jaunty updates, and it seems to be broken
[00:41] <sebsebseb> zeldarocks: how experiened are you with Ubuntu?
[00:42] <jumar> mikeshollen, ther wont be viruses
[00:42] <fearful> mikeshollen, the point is you do not need a antivirus for linux... not for wine either
[00:42] <zeldarocks> just started with it a few days/weeks ago
[00:42] <jrib> zeldarocks: see jwulf|eee ; jwulf|eee: yes, you're using a development version: help in #ubuntu+1
[00:42] <sebsebseb> zeldarocks: that answers the question then, do not upgrade to  alpha 5.  ,because your new to Ubuntu and it's an alpha
[00:43] <sebsebseb> zeldarocks: do you know about the stages of software?  alaphas, betas, release candidates, and then final release
[00:43] <sebsebseb> zeldarocks: alpha 5 is apparnatly pretty stable, but it will have bugs
[00:43] <fearful> mikeshollen, and if you really want to run it use the command I provided 3 times already
[00:43] <mikeshollen> I tried
[00:43] <lepine> jrib: ok, i'm back to the nvidia driver apparently (according to the hardware drivers pane) ...
[00:43] <fearful> mikeshollen, then look in the menus it should be there
[00:43] <lepine> but still stuck in lousy resolutions ...
[00:44] <mikeshollen> gksu avg didn't do anything that I can tell
[00:44] <lepine> oh wait ... now it;s asking me to reboot ... doing so
[00:44] <zeldarocks> I do know about the phases, but I don't see any danger/threat with updating, is there?
[00:44] <sebsebseb> zeldarocks: if you want to upgrade early, maybe the beta,  but anything before that big NO!
[00:44] <sint> fearful: i found out how to add getdeb to apt. hope this was a good idea, but pidgin is running again :)
[00:44] <fearful> mikeshollen, well I don't know the exact command as I said too, why don't you search for it and try it with gksu
[00:44] <zeldarocks> why?
[00:44] <sebsebseb> zeldarocks: I just told you why
[00:44] <mikeshollen> how do i list out applications?
[00:44] <mikeshollen> what would the directory be for them
[00:44] <sebsebseb> zeldarocks: do you not know what software bugs are?
[00:44] <mleger> should I know anything specific about using the upgrade manager to upgrade to 8.10 when I'm installed on wubi?
[00:44] <fearful> sint, nice :p
[00:45] <zeldarocks> would it help any tht I'm running ubuntu through Virtual Box?
[00:45] <jumar> mikeshollen, i haven't found any free version of avg for linux, if you try to run the exe, you dont really need to be root, just open it with wine, exe is not native on linux, not a package
[00:45] <sebsebseb> mleger: oh  dear your on wubi
[00:45] <mleger> sebsebseb: yea I told you total noob
[00:45] <dean> mikeshollen: what do you mean
[00:45] <sebsebseb> mleger: ok  pm me
[00:45] <dean> mikeshollen: like dpkg --get-selections
[00:45] <fearful> !who | mikeshollen
[00:45] <fearful> mikeshollen, /usr/bin
[00:45] <Maahes> I'm having an issue, I had a crash, and now my xserver is borked I used xfix, which means it now runs, but whenever I run nvidia-xconfig to generate an xorg.conf, it totally hangs, it doesn't even institute failsafe X, it just hangs forever, here's the xorg file nvidia xconfig gives: http://rafb.net/p/Z4JNkr34.html and here's the output of my xorg error log: http://rafb.net/p/ptMl8J96.html
[00:45] <mikeshollen> http://free.avg.com/download?prd=afl
[00:46] <jumar> thanks, mikesholen
[00:46] <Maahes> and by hangs forever I mean: gdm never finishes loading, or loading the backup xorg
[00:46] <zeldarocks> would updating be ok since I'm running ubunti through VirtualBox? I would think so IMO
[00:46] <fearful> mikeshollen, look in that directory, if its installed it should be there and voila
[00:47] <jumar> there's no amd64, mikeshollen, so im not going to play with it
[00:47] <usser> zeldarocks, take a snapshot before you update. if it breaks you can always go back this way
[00:47] <zeldarocks> would it bring me back to my previous version?
[00:47] <mikeshollen> jumar: no problem
[00:47] <jumar> sorry about that, but i really dont think that viruses can be any threat to wine or linux
[00:48] <tuxtox> how do you make a custom application launcher that needs root access?  what is the command?
[00:48] <zeldarocks> snapshots bring me bak to a previous install?
[00:49] <mikeshollen> fearful: thank you, the app name was avggui
[00:49] <pmcclelland> has anyone else had problems mounting vista cifs shares? I am getting memory allocation errors. Doesn't make any sense.
[00:49] <fearful> mikeshollen, alright no problem
[00:49] <mikeshollen> fearful: so I know how to run things as root from terminal, but you're suggesting that gksu "appname" will cause it to launch from the ubuntu gui as root as well?
[00:50] <usser> zeldarocks, well yea, it takes an exact replica of the VM's running state
[00:50] <fearful> mikeshollen, yes gksu is like running as sudo but it prepares the environment for a root GUI application
[00:50] <usser> zeldarocks, thats the most useful feauture of a VM
[00:50] <jumar> tuxtox, start with: gksu command
[00:50] <m3gaman> if you type gksu you can run as any user
[00:50] <zeldarocks> regardless of version?
[00:51] <usser> zeldarocks, regardless of the operating system that you run inside of a vm
[00:51] <tuxtox> jumar you are the man (or woman)  thanks
[00:51] <zeldarocks> k if so, I'll update, BRB
[00:51] <mikeshollen> fearful: so if i put gksu avggui in terminal, I will always launch as root when i click on it from the applications menu?
[00:51] <tuxtox> jumar what does gksu mean?
[00:51] <usser> zeldarocks, it just doesnt care what its running, its all bits to the virtualbox
[00:51] <fearful> mikeshollen, nope, only when you run it through the terminal
[00:51] <brandon_> So how do i run the GameServ from my desktop
[00:51] <gongo> hi, can anyone tell me i can't change date & time?  If I try and use time-admin the "unlock" button is greyed out
[00:51] <brandon_> ?
[00:52] <christophe> hello, i always get mkdir:  cannot create directory, to many links
[00:52] <mikeshollen> fearful: is there a way to ask the application to run as root so I can just click on it from the gui and have it launch as root all the time?
[00:52] <christophe> it is an empty dir and i have diskspace
[00:52] <mezy> how do i view hidden files and dictionaries?
[00:53] <Dr_willis> christophe,  links refer to 'soft links' if you some how nest them.. you can get that error i recall.
[00:53] <christophe> mezy: CTRL+H in nautilus or ls -a
[00:53] <christophe> Dr_willis: i get this in /tmp on boot (my X can't load because of this error)
[00:53] <gongo> If I open Time and Date Settings the "Unlock" button is unlocked and I can't change anything...anyone know why this is?
[00:53] <fearful> mikeshollen, um I don't think thats a such a good idea but you can choose it from the edit menu selection when right clicking then finding avg and in properties put gksu avggui
[00:53] <greenthumb> hi guys!
[00:53] <christophe> Dr_willis: how can I check if there are soft links?
[00:54] <trapline91> fearful, YES! imgburn fixed my problem!!!
[00:54] <sam555> does ubuntu 8.04 come with samba already installed?
[00:54] <fearful> trapline91, awsome
[00:54] <fearful> sam555, yes
[00:54] <trapline91> fearful, kind of sad it had to be windows software on linux that would fix the problem
[00:54] <sam555> fearful: thanks!
[00:54] <fearful> trapline91, I agree, but I've never experienced this problem to be honest
[00:54] <trapline91> fearful, hope you never have to! anyways im off to install 9.04 :D
[00:55] <Jose_Gaspar> Hello, how do I login as root for ubuntu? or what is the default PW? I want to maybe create users and manage permission on my local PC. Thanks
[00:55] <_VIM_> !root
[00:56] <fearful> Jose_Gaspar, you can do that as your user using root
[00:56] <todd_> !sudo|Jose_Gaspar
[00:56] <Dr_willis> christophe,  'ls -l' shows that sort of info
[00:57] <meanburrito920_> My speakers have decided to stop working on me. Is there a mute option in ubuntu that I don't know about?
[00:57] <_VIM_> meanburrito920_: yeah it's called PulseAudio
[00:57] <_VIM_> heh
[00:57] <Jose_Gaspar> I am trying to run tor and it only is running for root, not for my user profile
[00:57] <todd_> meanburrito920_, which ones do you know about
[00:57] <fosco_> Jose_Gaspar: then, sudo tor
[00:58] <christophe> Dr_willis if I do this in /tmp then it is empty (even with -al) If I do this on / then /tmp is of root:root and a directory (no soft link)
[00:58] <mezy> does apps mad for kde work with ubuntu/gnome thingie?
[00:58] <meanburrito920_> I checked all the sound settings in the preferences menu. None of them work. This has been going on for about 3 days
[00:58] <sebsebseb> yes
[00:58] <Darkequinox> hey peeps.
[00:58] <sebsebseb> mezy: yes
[00:58] <mezy> i suck at typing
[00:58] <_VIM_> mezy:  yep
[00:58] <mleger> is x11vnc safe?
[00:58] <Darkequinox> I  need help
[00:58] <mezy> thanks all
[00:58] <Dr_willis> christophe,  you need to clarify to the channel  exactly what you are trying to do - and well
[00:58] <todd_> Mezy yes
[00:58] <_VIM_> KDE apps just pull in a lot of libs though
[00:58] <sebsebseb> mleger: when it's tunneled over SSH yes,  if it's not done on SSH it's insecure
[00:58] <Dr_willis> christophe,  you need to clarify to the channel  exactly what you are trying to do - and where with what commands...
[00:58] <meanburrito920_> _VIM_: how do you configure PulseAudio?
[00:59] <todd_> !help|Darkequinox,
[00:59] <_VIM_> !sound | meanburrito920_
[00:59] <todd_> !ask|Darkequinox,
[00:59] <mezy> yay, ubuntu is so awesome. love this thing
[00:59] <christophe> sudo -i; cd /tmp; mkdir a -> cannot create directory, to many links
[00:59] <mezy> all i need is a larger usb stick
[00:59] <christophe> sudo -i; cd /tmp; ls -al -> empty
[00:59] <Darkequinox> alright, I'm totally new to linux. I have an ubuntu feisty distro, and I cant figure out for the life of me how to get the wireless to work.
[01:00] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: x11vnc is supposed to have encryption, but I could never get it working, so i just tunnel it from SSH too......
[01:00] <_VIM_> there's switches
[01:00] <Maahes> I'm having an issue, I had a crash, and now my xserver is borked I used xfix, which means it now runs, but whenever I run nvidia-xconfig to generate an xorg.conf, it totally hangs, it doesn't even institute failsafe X, it just hangs forever, here's the xorg file nvidia xconfig gives: http://rafb.net/p/Z4JNkr34.html and here's the output of my xorg error log: http://rafb.net/p/ptMl8J96.html
[01:00] <christophe> I'm trying to startup my ubuntu 8.10 but it can't load X server because it can"t create a working directory in /tmp
[01:01] <brandon_> So how do i start the GameServ from my desktop
[01:01] <Darkequinox> can anyone help me?
[01:01] <fearful> !justask | Darkequinox
[01:01] <sebsebseb> Darkequinox: ok fesity is an old version that is no longer suppourted
[01:01] <meanburrito920_> _VIM_ PCM was muted, I unmuted it. Would you know what causes this problem?
[01:01] <fearful> Darkequinox, sorry didn't read
[01:02] <_VIM_> meanburrito920_: no clue, sorry, im not really a sound guy
[01:02] <Dr_willis> christophe,  the permissions i got on tmp (from ls -l) are -->    drwxrwxrwt 12 root root  4096 2009-03-10 01:01 tmp
[01:02] <Darkequinox> okay
[01:02] <christophe> Dr_willis: exactly the same as mine
[01:02] <Dr_willis> christophe,  this is on a normal install? or live cd?
[01:03] <m3gaman> here is a quick question...say I install an application and it creates an ICON for it in the applications menu...when I do a apt-get remove (said application) it does not remove the associated icon within the applications menu.  Is this normal? or should I be uninstall my applications in a different manner?
[01:03] <christophe> Dr_willis: normal install
[01:03] <Dr_willis> christophe,  cd to the dir as a user, and try making a dir, or touching a file
[01:03] <brandon_> !run
[01:03] <sebsebseb> m3gaman: there's a hidden folder with  the  icons for the menu
[01:03] <xcoimbra> .info
[01:03] <christophe> Dr_willis: can you tell me maybe a next step, because I have to boot again :p
[01:04] <m3gaman> sebsebseb: ok, so I assume an apt-get remove does not delete the icon associated with the application?
[01:04] <Darkequinox> so, I'm totally new to Linux. No close to nothing. Got a book on it though, with a fiesty disk. Anywayz, I cant the wireless card to work. It IS supported, and it's detected. I'm pretty sure everything is working properly, but it just wont connect to a network.
[01:04] <sebsebseb> m3gaman:  use this instead.  sudo apt-get purge  programname
[01:04] <christophe> Dr_willis: I think this will not work, so it would be nice if I could test 2 things
[01:04] <fearful> Darkequinox, I suggest you download 8.10 and start from their especially since your new :) much easier
[01:04] <m3gaman> sebsebseb: great...I will give that a try...thanks
[01:04] <sebsebseb> m3gaman: and  icons for things should be removed from the menu,  unless it's a program you installed in wine
[01:05] <btthalion> I'm having a problem where my display will randomly crash. The monitor is reporting no signal. I can't bring up a console using ctrl+alt+F1, however I can ssh into the machine.  Both kern.log and syslog contain two lines similar to "[  890.652635] NVRM: Xid (0003:00): 16, Head 00000001 Count 00000000", and Xorg.0.log contains two lines similar to "(WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (1, 6, 0x8000, 0xffffffff, 0x00007f18)". This is a core I7 system
[01:05] <Darkequinox> I would get 8.10, but my dad wont let me
[01:05] <christophe> nevermind, i'll boot and come back. is easier for you
[01:05] <m3gaman> sebsebseb: I just installed it in linux via apt-get install...then removed it using apt-get remove it appears to have removed the application but the icon is still in the applications menu
[01:05] <Darkequinox> Dunno why.
[01:05] <fearful> Darkequinox, huh thats a first...
[01:05] <theclaw> hi
[01:06] <sebsebseb> theclaw: hi
[01:06] <Darkequinox> 8.10 is Ibex, right?
[01:06] <_VIM_> yep
[01:06] <fearful> Darkequinox, Intrepid Ibex correct
[01:06] <theclaw> I just upgraded to intrepid, now pidgin doesn't connect to ICQ any longer, it says I should upgrade pidgin?
[01:06] <theclaw> it worked fine with hardy (I used hardy-backports, but that shouldn't matter?)
[01:07] <Darkequinox> just checking.  Anyway, I suppose that if I could my Internet working, I could probably get Ibex that way, but I cant get the wireless to work.
[01:08] <Nalf> Anyone know why the installer would freeze at 'Starting bluetooth'?
[01:08] <Maahes> !info Synaptics
[01:08] <Maahes> !xorg
[01:08] <sebsebseb> theclaw: ok not sure about your issue, but there is also  licq  by the way
[01:08] <Darkequinox> wow, Really? Theres no Synaptics  in Ibex? Whats used for packages, then?
[01:09] <sebsebseb> theclaw: oh and starting with a new pidgin file could help with your issue
[01:09] <zeldarocks> Im updating as we speak
[01:09] <sebsebseb> theclaw: pidgin profile that was meant to say
[01:09] <zeldarocks> itll be done in 22 minutes
[01:09] <goiano> onde posso entrar no canal do brazil nao consigo
[01:09] <theclaw> sebsebseb: I don't see why a new profile would help?
[01:10] <Darkequinox> Can someone help me, even though my comp is on Feisty?
[01:10] <christophe> Dr_willis: touching a file works mkdir doesn't
[01:10] <sebsebseb> theclaw: ,because then you get a 100% clean pidgin
[01:10] <Dr_willis> christophe,  check  the 'mount' command - see if /tmp is mounted in some odd way.. somthing is very weird here
[01:10] <wartalker> how to know how much mem a process used?
[01:11] <jrib> Darkequinox: feisty isn't supported (no more security updates), you should upgrade
[01:11] <sebsebseb> Darkequinox: Fesity is no longer suppourted you should upgrade
[01:11] <jrib> !upgrade > Darkequinox
[01:11] <_VIM_> !pt | goiano
[01:11] <christophe> Dr_willis: /tmp isn't mounted as so , /dev/sda1 on which/tmp is located is
[01:12] <Darkequinox> I know its not supported, but I cant upgrade. That's the thing. If I can get my internet wroking on it, THEN I'll update to Ibex.
[01:12] <jrib> Darkequinox: k, then ask for help with that
[01:12] <Darkequinox> Which I have...
[01:12] <theclaw> sebsebseb: nope, that didn't work..
[01:13] <Dr_willis> christophe,  im out of ideas. id say google for that exact error mesage and perhaps get some clues
[01:13] <jrib> Darkequinox: better than "Can someone help me, even though my comp is on Feisty?".  In any case though, it's probably easier to just backup your data and do a fresh install of 8.10
[01:13] <Dr_willis> christophe,  whats the exact commands you are doing?   i just 'cd /tmp'   then 'mkdir teststuff' and it worked   with the permissions shown
[01:13] <theclaw> wartalker: the output of 'ps aux' might help
[01:13] <mikeshollen> What is the difference between mark for removal, and mark for complete removal in synaptic?
[01:13] <christophe> Dr_willis if i google then they tell me that ext3 can only have 38980 files in a directory
[01:14] <Dr_willis> christophe,  you may want to fsck the filesystem just in case its some quirk there.
[01:14] <Darkequinox> I cant figure out what to do about my wireless internet connection. My card is supported, Feisty has it's drivers, so  it's working.... maybe its the network manager app itself?
[01:14] <theclaw> mikeshollen: the configuration files don't get removed in "removal" I guess
[01:14] <sebsebseb> theclaw: try   an alternative?  licq
[01:14] <Darkequinox> lol. Save  server, fsck an Admin.
[01:14] <b1n42y> mikeshollen, mark for removal means uninstall and complete is deleting package as well if im not mistaken
[01:14] <Dr_willis> theclaw,  normal removal - keeps the configs.. yes
[01:14] <jrib> Darkequinox: can't you use a wired connection to upgrade?
[01:14] <christophe> Dr_willis : i do the same sequence of commands + i did fsck, without any results
[01:14] <mikeshollen> what do you mean by deleting package?
[01:14] <theclaw> sebsebseb: I tried licq.. I don't quite like it. I'd like to know why it doesn't work with intrepid now
[01:15] <sebsebseb> mikeshollen: software is called packages in Linux
[01:15] <Darkequinox> No, My dad wont let me drag the cords into my room.
[01:15] <theclaw> sebsebseb: it's the same version as I used before
[01:15] <kennethr> how do I change the resolution of the login screen for ubuntu?
[01:15] <b1n42y> sebsebseb, ta
[01:15] <sebsebseb> b1n42y: np
[01:15] <christophe> Dr_willis thanks for thinking with me although you maybe are out of ideas ;)
[01:15] <Darkequinox> Guys, I have 5 minutes. Can someone help?
[01:16] <jrib> !wireless > Darkequinox
[01:16] <shear_clone> mikeshollen, i would guess that complete removal does the same as -purge in the cli. that is, remove config files also.
[01:16] <theclaw> kennethr: have you tried simply setting the resolution of your desktop?
[01:16] <jrib> Darkequinox: maybe check the old versions of those pages for feisty
[01:16] <kennethr> theclaw: yes
[01:16] <Dr_willis> christophe,  boot a live cd and see if ya can do it. in that dir.
[01:16] <kennethr> theclaw: it works after I log in, but every other GUI thing before that is different resolution.
[01:16] <b1n42y> Darkequinox, im not sure of your problem but wicd is an alternative to NM
[01:17] <christophe> Dr_willis, i'll try that
[01:17] <Darkequinox> My wireless connection isn;t wthanks for the heads up.
[01:17] <kennethr> theclaw: I have the desktop where I want it...but the boot progress indicator is wrong resolution, and login screen is a little off
[01:17] <Darkequinox> ack
[01:17] <theclaw> kennethr: I guess it would work if you wrote the resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:17] <fearful> anyone know how I can change aMSN's time to am/pm format?
[01:17] <Darkequinox> forgot to hit enter.
[01:17] <Darkequinox> b1n42y, thanks for the heads up
[01:17] <mroc> silly question:  on update, i was asked if i wanted to keep the local version of menu.lst.    i said yes, but the updated kernels don't show up.  how do i automagically get that prompt again?
[01:17] <kennethr> theclaw: what would the entry look like and where would it go?
[01:17] <theclaw> kennethr: but that's not a very user friendly solution I guess
[01:17] <kennethr> theclaw: right
[01:17] <b1n42y> Darkequinox, np
[01:18] <redvamp128> kennethr:  would this bug be similar with a fix Bug #16472 in gdm (Ubuntu): “Login Screen Resolution” <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/16472>   look for the line that says virtual.
[01:18] <theclaw> kennethr: I don't know at the moment, I don't use those settings anymore either
[01:18] <dbbolton> which ubuntu package contains gnome-cups-manager
[01:18] <redvamp128> kennethr:  I had that issue when I ran Intrepid and installed Nvidia drivers-- my login screen was too huge-- also the boot progress loader looked funny--
[01:19] <kennethr> theclaw: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/05/fix-boot-gui-resolution-in-ubuntu.html
[01:19] <fearful> timestamps on amsn to am/pm anyone?
[01:19] <dusk> how can i get the madwifi drivers and get wpa_supplicant to recognize them?
[01:19] <Mike94287> So I'm going to transfer a .odt file to a computer running Windows XP that has Microsoft Word 2003 on it. I just want to know if Microsoft Word 2003 can open .odt files.
[01:19] <kennethr> theclaw: trying thast
[01:19] <kennethr> *that*
[01:19] <b1n42y> hmm gnome panel is taking 540 MB is that normal?
[01:19] <Darkequinox> ooh! What if my card is listed as an unknown device, but is still recognised with a driver?
[01:19] <shear_clone> Mike94287, I doubt it. OO.org can save as a .doc file though
[01:19] <mroc> Mike94287: I don't believe so, no.  But you can save it as a .doc in openoffice.
[01:20] <wolter> b1n42y, are you kidding?
[01:20] <_VIM_> b1n42y: no way
[01:20] <kennethr> theclaw: brb
[01:20] <theclaw> kennethr: no, that's probably not what you want
[01:20] <segin> Darkequinox: Don't worry about it?
[01:20] <Darkequinox> OMGWTFBBQ?! They have an article on my EXACT CARD!
[01:20] <Darkequinox> Yayz.
[01:20] <kennethr> theclaw: what is it?
[01:20] <trimeta> Anyone here have experience with recovering data from a RAID 1?
[01:20] <_VIM_> !OMG | Darkequinox
[01:20] <theclaw> kennethr: it affects the resolution of the boot splash (the "progress bar")
[01:21] <Mike94287> mroc: Would there be a way to make the deault file format in openoffice .dot
[01:21] <b1n42y> nope 545 MiB
[01:21] <Mike94287> .doc*
[01:21] <sebsebseb> Mike94287: nope it can't
[01:21] <sebsebseb> Mike94287: well maybe it can with an add on
[01:21] <segin> Mike94287 yes
[01:21] <XFCEntral> yes it can
[01:21] <Mike94287> segin: How can I go about doing that?
[01:22] <segin> Mike94287: I can't tell you off the top of my head
[01:22] <XFCEntral> its under general > Load/Save
[01:22] <theclaw> kennethr: you might have to adjust your xorg config, but that's not too complicated
[01:22] <sebsebseb> Mike94287: office 2003 cannot  open .odt except with an add on
[01:22] <XFCEntral> Default file format
[01:22] <shear_clone> Mike94287, yes. Tools > options > Load/save > general
[01:22] <Nalf> Does anyone know why unetbootin would look almost as if I opened a .doc with wordpad when I booted up?
[01:22] <XFCEntral> "Always save as"
[01:22] <segin> sebsebseb: office > trash :P
[01:22] <mroc> on update, i was asked if i wanted to keep the local version of menu.lst.    i said yes, but the updated kernels don't show up.  how do i automagically get that prompt again?
[01:23] <sebsebseb> segin: yep I don't like Office  2007
[01:23] <sebsebseb> segin: Office 2003 is sort of ok, but I would rather use alternatives
[01:23] <XFCEntral> ugh that "ribbon" on the top...
[01:23] <segin> sebsebseb: and what's worse is going to be Windows 7's builtin Wordpad thing
[01:23] <sebsebseb> segin: Office 2003 was fine for most users, for years, and so Office 2007  what was the real point,  except for MS to make even more money out of their Office cash cow.  that's Windows and Office their two main cash cows.
[01:24] <segin> sebsebseb: Infected with the horrid RibbonUI and bad support of ODT.
[01:24] <sebsebseb> segin: indeed Wordpad is like a completly differnet app it was nice and simple before, however the Wordpad in Win7  can do  ODF :)
[01:24] <shear_clone> mroc, take a look into /boot/grub/menu.lst. It's possible that the other boot options are simply commented out. I've had that happen
[01:24] <Myrtti> segin, sebsebseb: offtopic
[01:24] <oh_noes> I just insalled the hardy amd64, but when I do apt-get update its throwing 404 for all the Files it's trying to download?  It's using the default sources.list
[01:24] <sebsebseb> segin: oh bad suppourt for ODT, and  yes we are off topic
[01:24] <oh_noes> The weird thing is, I can manually "wget file" and it works
[01:24] <Darkequinox> anyone know a guide for ndiswrapper I could use?
[01:24] <mroc> shear_clone: is there a nice way to just tell it to replace the local version with the automatically configured version?
[01:25] <segin> Darkequinox: google is your friend
[01:25] <sebsebseb> segin: want to continue in off topic or pm?
[01:25] <shear_clone> mroc, not that I know of. However, if the kernels are installed, it shouldn't be too hard to add your own entries to menu.lst
[01:25] <_VIM_> telling someone to go google it, is not very helpful
[01:26] <Darkequinox> Alright, so one more question: How do you blacklist a driver?
[01:26] <mroc> shear_clone: true.  hoping for the lazy way out on this one.
[01:26] <Mood> Is there a skype version for Ubuntu 8.10? Skype's page only shows binaries for 7.04-8.04
[01:26] <sebsebseb> Mood: they are a bit out of date on their page, however that version works in 8.10 as well
[01:26] <Mood> sebsebseb: cool. thanks
[01:26] <XFCEntral> Mood: ive got skype on 8.10 and its probably that same version if i recall correctly...
[01:26] <jrib> !blacklist | Darkequinox
[01:26] <sebsebseb> Mood: and Skype hum  I know how people can phone loads of countires for free
[01:27] <jrib> Darkequinox: there's an ndiswrapper guide on the wireless docs page
[01:27] <Mood> XFCEntral: trying it now...
[01:27] <Darkequinox> jrib, ty.
[01:27] <Mood> sebsebseb: can i PM you?
[01:27] <shear_clone> mroc, all you have to do is copy the entry already in menu.lst, and change a few numbers that correspond to kernel version. it's almost as easy as it gets :D
[01:28] <sebsebseb> Mood: yep
[01:29] <mroc> shear_clone: thanks, i think i found what i needed....  sudo update-grub    pretty sure that did what i was looking to do.
[01:29] <Nalf> sebsebseb: have you ever used unetbootin?
[01:29] <dusk> how can i install the madwifi drivers
[01:29] <dusk> !madwifi
[01:29] <shear_clone> mroc, excellent
[01:30] <b1n42y> hmm well i just killed gnome-panel, then it restarted and its only using 6.5 MB
[01:30] <dennda> postfix keeps saying saslauthd is not available but it is running. why is that?
[01:31] <b1n42y> ok if im using alsa as my mixer should pulse audio be running?
[01:31] <sebsebseb> Nalf: no, but a guy told me how to do the netboot  ages ago on IM
[01:31] <sebsebseb> Nalf: well I guess not that long ago
[01:31] <sebsebseb> Nalf: I have some old logs some where, but I won't dig them up for you :d
[01:31] <Nalf> sebsebseb: Thanks. ^_- Not that helpful, anyways.
[01:32] <Nalf> sebsebseb: I have run it, and my partition is bootable.. but everything comes up like all encrypted.. I can't read any of the font it's just garbage characters.
[01:32] <dennda> What's the command to delete a link (only the link, not the file it links to) again?
[01:32] <sindy> http://www.sexfreundin.net/?id=7899
[01:33] <christophe> Dr_willis, i just restarted for the twentieth time and now it just boots :s
[01:33] <_VIM_> !ops | link
[01:33] <sebsebseb> Nalf: ok
[01:33] <rww> dennda: You can just rm /path/to/link. That'll delete the link, not the thing it links to.
[01:33] <mezy> sebsebseb: hey, i did't really need to partition my drive for ubuntu. it works great on a usb. at least when i know how to solve some problems
[01:33] <jrib> _VIM_: hmm?
[01:34] <shear_clone> dennda, simply rm the symlink. remember to omit the trailing slash. so "rm symlink" not "rm symlink/"
[01:34] <_VIM_> jrib:  sindy
[01:34] <Nalf> thanks, jrib.
[01:34] <_VIM_> ty :)
[01:34] <sebsebseb> mezy:   usb hummmmmm
[01:34] <sebsebseb> mezy: what kind of usb device?
[01:34] <jrib> _VIM_: thanks
[01:34] <Myrtti> _VIM_: in the future mention the nick as well, would you?
[01:34] <_VIM_> ok :)
[01:34] <CShadowRun> In intrepid the WEP Ascii option in nm-applet is removed
[01:35] <CShadowRun> how are you supposed to connect to a network with a WEP ascii key?
[01:35] <mezy> sebsebseb: ahh. sandisk. 2g micro with micro usb adapter
[01:35] <keres> Hmm, why is the term "sudo" used to declare temporary root?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> mezy: oh a 2GB usb stick???/
[01:36] <shear_clone> keres, iirc, it's short for "superuser do"
[01:36] <shear_clone> or something like that
[01:36] <b1n42y> CShadowRun, use different method via router?
[01:36] <keres> shear_clone: i see.
[01:36] <keres> ty
[01:36] <ahofha> Ubunt 8.10 being slow.  I'm in the WMWare right now, no luck though, the GUI is still pretty choppy, do you guys know anything that I could do so this won't happen?
[01:36] <CShadowRun> b1n42y seems long winded to have to reconfigure every computer in the house because ubuntu can't support WEP ascii
[01:36] <CShadowRun> it does in hardy
[01:36] <CShadowRun> it seems completely insane to remove support for it
[01:37] <crdlb> CShadowRun: you mean "WEP 128-bit Passphrase"?
[01:37] <sebsebseb> mezy: wubi and running like that from a USB  device, is a newbie way to run Ubuntu in my opinion.  partitining is good and  the way to go :)   however  I guess whatever as long as it works for you and your running Ubuntu :)  and hopefuly as your main OS instead of Windows
[01:37] <CShadowRun> crdlb trying...
[01:37] <fearful> sebsebseb, I think you ment Winblows ;) kidding
[01:38] <sebsebseb> fearful:  not that time, and  I  don't hate Microslap,  I just hate how most apps that many people want to run, were made for Windows only
[01:38] <Dr_willis> id rather use Virtuaklbox then wubi. :) but thats jsut me...
[01:38] <sebsebseb> Dr_willis: same here
[01:38] <CShadowRun> crdlb my mistake, they just changed the name :)
[01:38] <sebsebseb> Dr_willis: even if Windows is the host
[01:38] <crdlb> CShadowRun: it should have autodetected the security type
[01:39] <Dr_willis> sebsebseb,  dont even get me started.. :)
[01:39] <sebsebseb> Dr_willis: lol
[01:39] <_jet__> hello, I need some help...
[01:39] <Nalf> dr_willis: what is virtualklbox?
[01:40] <_jet__> I messed up something in my network configuration
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Dr_willis:  seriosuly though  wubi,  running ubuntu from a usb,  and  running it in virtualbox with Windows as the host.  good for trying, but then partitioning is so the way to go :)
[01:40] <_jet__> and internet doesn't work anymore...
[01:40] <crdlb> CShadowRun: did it not try to do that?
[01:40] <Dr_willis> sebsebseb,  right now im backign stuff up/moveing files.. and i cant under stand the Muicrosoft logic of albumArt_XXXX.jpg files being 'system files' and causing me to  confifm that yes.. i do want to Move them to the archive disk.. :)
[01:40] <Nalf> sebsebseb: Doesn't wubi partition?..
[01:40] <Dr_willis> sebsebseb,  linux is so handy - i always got puppylinux set up on virtualbox on every windows machine
[01:40] <CShadowRun> crdlb dunno, helping someone via remote and it doesn't help when the names of the options get changed, lol
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Nalf: not properly no,  it puts Ubuntu inside the Windows NTFS partition
[01:41] <Nalf> sebsebseb: what is the downfall to that?
[01:41] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu in a file on the ntfs filesystem
[01:41] <mezy> sebsebseb: is have only 2gs bad?
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Dr_willis: indeed Linux can be used to fix Windohs problems as well
[01:41] <XFCEntral> Nalf: i know it wont hibernate but thats not a big deal to most haha
[01:41] <_jet__> does anybody knows why I could have "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted" and how to fix it?
[01:41] <sebsebseb> mezy: having to boot from a USB stick  each time, would suck
[01:41] <mezy> not really....
[01:42] <Dr_willis> If i can ever get LordOfTheRingsOnline Working with wine.. i could ditch windows. :)  but that game is a pain
[01:42] <sebsebseb> mezy: good for trying, but you should partition your hard disk properly for Ubuntu
[01:42] <Nalf> xfcentral: Definitely not a big deal to me. I had issues getting wubi to install, though. In fact, I'm still having issues getting ubuntu installed. t.t
[01:42] <crdlb> CShadowRun: I see, well you might want to ensure ESSID hiding isn't enabled
[01:42] <mezy> sebsebseb: hmm? im don't understand why that is needed
[01:42] <crdlb> so that network manager can be helpful
[01:42] <XFCEntral> Nalf: uh oh, hopefully nothing major. it worked for me since 7.10 i believe, until i wiped out XP and went straight Linux
[01:43] <sebsebseb> hey guys  I don't feel like typing a load of reasons why  I think it's best  to run Ubuntu from a hard disk partition with another partition for a seperate home folder.  anyone want to explain to mezy?
[01:43] <CShadowRun> yea, i'm just waiting for replies now
[01:43] <CrimsonScythe> hi. i updated some packages and now i can't boot the computer. i can barely boot using the installation cd, but even that one just gives me a busybox initramfs prompt. so, my next step was to chroot the drive on which ubuntu resides, but everything is painfully slow in chroot. doing an aptitude search takes minuts. any vague idea which part(s) got screwed up?
[01:43] <Nalf> xfcentral: I have a fairly new computer, core i7, dual radeonhd 4800, etc etc, and it's seeming to hang on the installer when starting bluetooth. Any ideas?
[01:43] <mezy> sebsebseb: lol
[01:43] <Nalf> xfcentral
[01:44] <XFCEntral> sebsebseb: i've used both Wubi and Ubuntu on a dedicated partition, and i never noticed "performance" differences for example. there are subtle differences but as a regular user none to beat yourself up over if you use Wubi
[01:44] <Nalf> xfcentral: My bad.. I googled with no luck. I remember having an error with wubi like udevd 6000 modprobe abnormal exit or something.
[01:44] <jeeves> is there a plugin for Awstats that'll show JUST the stats for rsync?
[01:44] <XFCEntral> Nalf: can you disable BT from the BIOS before installing?
[01:44] <b1n42y> sebsebseb, in those two sentences you could have done it
[01:44] <sebsebseb> XFCEntral: well if you do wubi and Windows buggers up properly, so does Ubuntu
[01:44] <Dr_willis> CrimsonScythe,  i would guess somtjhing hardware wise broke. if the live cd is even acting up... or came loose..  package installs.. can NOT affect the live cd booting stuff.
[01:45] <mezy> sebsebseb: its funny seeing how their are directed at you instead of me
[01:45] <XFCEntral> thats always a downside but you can assume that risk
[01:45] <Nalf> dr_willis: If the live cd freezes on boot you think there is a hardware issue?
[01:45] <CrimsonScythe> Dr_willis: not sure what would have broken when rebooting, though.
[01:45] <b1n42y> mezy, Having a separate /home partition makes it easier for you to reinstall Ubuntu while preserving your personal files and settings. This is a matter of convenience but is not foolproof. You should still regularly back up your data.
[01:45] <XFCEntral> sory mezy my mistake
[01:46] <Dr_willis> Nalf,  if it used to work.. and now it dosent.. somthing has changed.. yes...
[01:46] <Nalf> dr_willis: Ahh, ok. Well it never worked in the first place so I guess I'll keep probing elsewhere for issues. ^_^
[01:46] <Dr_willis> CrimsonScythe,  open the case up.. check wires.. dust it out.. chase out the mouse.. (oh what was on MY server )
[01:46] <mezy> this late night stuff is making my typing skillz worse
[01:46] <sebsebseb> mezy: just partition your hard disk and stop being a noob LOL :d     seriosuly  wubi,  ubuntu virtual machine,  or putting on  a usb stick,   not always, but a lot of the time, it's for  noobs that are afraid to partition their hard disk.  "oh no I might wipe windows"  no you won't if you know what your doing
[01:47] <_Linuxx_> nalf, try acpi=off
[01:47] <mezy> sebsebseb: remember this is my brother computer
[01:47] <CrimsonScythe> Dr_willis: yeah, i'll have to check again. hmm. i did change one thing. i doubled the amount of memory to 8GB. i didn't think that'd make a negative impact. let me try again
[01:47] <sebsebseb> mezy: oh  are you the
[01:47] <XFCEntral> sebsebseb: what about having ubuntu on a usb for a thing client?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> mezy: ah ha
[01:47] <sebsebseb> mezy: oh your that 16 year old that wanted to put on his brothers computer?
[01:47] <mezy> ya...
[01:47] <Nalf> linuxx: I have no blank cds and I'm trying to install from a usb drive now. Having issues in that area currently.
[01:48] <sebsebseb> mezy: ok fine,  I guess you got a reason to do it from USB stick then, for now at least
[01:48] <mezy> sebsebseb: yup
[01:48] <_Linuxx_> nalf, you should still be able to turn acpi off
[01:48] <XFCEntral> after that the police come after you mezy!!!
[01:48] <Dr_willis> CrimsonScythe,  the sytem can handle that much? :)
[01:48] <sebsebseb> XFCEntral: no his brother  might  die of shock,  if  he see's Grub when he boots up the lap top
[01:48] <sebsebseb> XFCEntral: he might be like wtf is that?
[01:49] <Nalf> _Linuxx_, I used this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/live-ubuntu-810-usb-persistent-install-windows/ persisent installer, and the menus don't look quite like the livecd menus.
[01:49] <XFCEntral> as opposed to not seeing grub with a dedicated install?
[01:49] <XFCEntral> because, i see it...
[01:49] <Nalf> Using that I am unaware of how to append acpi=off.
[01:49] <grkblood13> how do i fix rars with par files throug hthe command line?
[01:49] <Rozen> I tried to install mono, but then I looked at synapstic manager, and saw that ot was already installed, but how do I runit to use it
[01:49] <chandler_> hi
[01:49] <_Linuxx_> let me look at it..
[01:49] <sebsebseb> mezy:  I thought you said it was getting issues with WIndows though as well?
[01:49] <chandler_> hello
[01:50] <chandler_> asdfdhfgjklhbsbdf
[01:50] <chandler_> jfbjkls
[01:50] <chandler_> gfgdndfgn
[01:50] <Dr_willis> !mono
[01:50] <chandler_> dfgndfg
[01:50] <chandler_> ndfbn
[01:50] <chandler_> dfn
[01:50] <FloodBot1> chandler_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:50] <Nalf> _Linuxx_, are you familiar with unetbootin? I got my usb drive to boot with it, but it comes up all messed up. Like opening a .doc in wordpad, everything is unreadable.
[01:50] <grkblood13> !par
[01:50] <chandler_> @#$% you
[01:51] <judget> I did a new Ubuntu install with a (ugh) ATI card and got Cinelerra to work, but the desktop freeses and the left screen goes blank after inactivity
[01:51] <judget> Im using Xinerama
[01:51] <tarfart> im on kubuntu intrepid, it appears installing fglrx drivers with out additional tweaking is not possible  http://rafb.net/p/Z4Cgjx53.html
[01:51] <SidO> bonsoir
[01:51] <grkblood13> !PAR
[01:51] <tarfart> fglrx drivers are not working.  how do i make them work?
[01:51] <|Kamen|> I am having an issue with packages. I am trying to install a package that depends on libgadu3. synaptic tells me its there, but package manager still claims dependency is not satisfied
[01:51] <tarfart> it wont play 3D games.
[01:51] <Flannel> grkblood13: It's not case sensitive.  What are you looking for?
[01:52] <jdfoote2> Anyone feel like helping me troubleshoot a network problem? My Ubuntu box will work fine 1/2 of the time, but the other 1/2 of the time the network just crawls, while my Windows box does fine 100% of the time
[01:52] <_Linuxx_> nalf, can you see that message i sent you??
[01:52] <grkblood13> im looking for how to use par files to fix rar files
[01:53] <judget> I found one popst and modified my aorg.conf so it should not go into hibernate but the desktop still locks up after about 10 min of inactivity and will not wake up
[01:53] <|Kamen|> I am also having the same issue with another package depending on gtk20-0. according to snaptic, its there, but package manger still says no. I've reinstalled both packages, still no dice
[01:54] <fearful> I pressed ungroup items on the pidgin chat window and now I can't group them back together :\
[01:54] <grkblood13> any idea?
[01:55] <Rozen> how can I start mono?
[01:55] <_Linuxx_> fearful, im am checking out my pidgin now...
[01:55] <jdfoote2> fearful - how did you ungroup them?
[01:55] <CShadowRun> crdlb sorry for delay, friends internet cut out
[01:55] <fearful> _Linuxx_, ok I found nothing, I right clicked by the smiley's and hit ungroup
[01:55] <dkerschner> I've set up dnsmasq and i ping and dig a few local names i've set up. but not one that has no domain name. ie i can ping foo.bar.com but not foo
[01:56] <CShadowRun> but yea, after multiple attempts authentication fails
[01:56] <CShadowRun> it is not 128bit wep
[01:56] <CShadowRun> the password is indeed ascii
[01:56] <zaccour> i get a flash error everytime i try to access flash stuff online
[01:56] <silentContender> How can I fix a broken login?
[01:56] <Flannel> silentContender: Define broken?
[01:56] <zaccour> how do i fix the flash error?
[01:56] <|Kamen|> is it possible to force package manager to install even if it thinks dependencies are not satisfied?
[01:56] <fearful> jdfoote2, that was for you the message I sent to _Linuxx_
[01:57] <CShadowRun> crdlb googling i can see i'm not the only person with the issue either
[01:57] <jrib> |Kamen|: sure, but it doesn't really make sense to do that
[01:57] <Flannel> |Kamen|: technically.  But its better to just fix the fact that it doesn't think theyre satisfied (find a deb for Ubuntu, or others)
[01:57] <m1r> |Kamen|: apt-get install -f * ?
[01:57] <|Kamen|> these packages are debs
[01:57] <zaccour> how do i fix flash error?
[01:57] <silentContender> Flannel, logging in from KDM kicks me to console.  Console won't even let me login.  It just prompts for my user/pass everytime I enter it.  Log files seem to point at either getty or login process (I think it getty though)
[01:57] <AETE_KRAOUD> hi
[01:57] <b1n42y> CShadowRun, you could also try wicd
[01:57] <crdlb> |Kamen|: where are you getting the packages?
[01:58] <CShadowRun> b1n42y without an internet connection? :P
[01:58] <silentContender> Flannel, I get a SEGV signal when logging in
[01:58] <jdfoote2> fearful, I figured that - I can't see where you got that option - right-clicking on an individual's name?
[01:58] <AETE_KRAOUD> hi guys :-)
[01:58] <Flannel> |Kamen|: "debs" aren't necessarily for Ubuntu (or your version of Ubuntu)
[01:58] <|Kamen|> getting them here: http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=pidgin
[01:58] <jrib> |
[01:58] <b1n42y> CShadowRun, also wep is somewhat outdates and insecure compared to wpa
[01:59] <jrib> |Kamen|: pidgin is installed by default already
[01:59] <fearful> jdfoote2, nope by the fonts and smilies and all those on the chatwindow
[01:59] <CShadowRun> b1n42y yea, it's just to keep random people off
[01:59] <grkblood13> found it
[01:59] <grkblood13> i needed to d/l par2
[01:59] <CShadowRun> 99% of the world isn't into wep cracking :p
[01:59] <CShadowRun> and if they are, they are probably into wpa cracking too ;)
[01:59] <|Kamen|> ya its installed but its broken for ICQ
[01:59] <AETE_KRAOUD> Some MP3s suddenly Stopped working properly what to do?
[01:59] <efeX^> Is this the official ubuntu channel
[01:59] <jrib> efeX^: yes
[01:59] <Flannel> efeX^: Yes
[01:59] <|Kamen|> the updates one tht works for icq isnt in synaptic yet
[01:59] <jdfoote2> fearful, when I right-click on the empty space to the right of the menu options, I see "Group Items"
[02:00] <AETE_KRAOUD> what do i have to do????
[02:00] <|Kamen|> and the dependies its claiming arent there ARE from the ubuntu repos
[02:00] <b1n42y> CShadowRun, im pretty sure wicd only does wep, hex , passphrase and shared/restricted
[02:00] <CShadowRun> well i know for a fact wep ascii is in hardy, i'm looking at it
[02:00] <CShadowRun> all my computers run hardy because intrepid caused me various nightmares (like this one :D)
[02:00] <jrib> |Kamen|: pastebin the errors
[02:00] <Nalf> Does anyone know how ubuntu works with those linksys wireless usb adapters?
[02:01] <AETE_KRAOUD> everything is installed correctly , but suddently sound of mp3 sucks
[02:01] <|Kamen|> there are no errors
[02:01] <AETE_KRAOUD> does anyone available ?
[02:01] <Flannel> |Kamen|: If it doesn't install the deb, it gives you errors.
[02:01] <AETE_KRAOUD> hmmmmmmm;(
[02:01] <b1n42y> CShadowRun, also if your router supports it use mac filtering if you want protection against randoms
[02:01] <AETE_KRAOUD> all other sounds works great
[02:01] <t3hp00ky> Can someone tell me how to set a VLC as a default media player?
[02:01] <AETE_KRAOUD> alsa is also OK
[02:01] <grkblood13> is there a way to use par2 on a group of files that isnt completely done d/ling?
[02:01] <jdfoote2> Can anyone hel me with some network problems? My Ubuntu box goes very, very slow about 1/2 the time
[02:02] <CShadowRun> b1n42y right now i just want to connect using a simple ascii key :P
[02:02] <|Kamen|> flannel: package manager says dependencies are not satisfied, and names packages that ARE present according to synaptic
[02:02] <CShadowRun> which for some reason has been removed in intrepid
[02:02] <crdlb> b1n42y: if you're already using wep, that's not going to add anything ...
[02:02] <AETE_KRAOUD> t3hp00ky, : just right click on any music file and you will see:-)
[02:02] <b1n42y> crdlb, instead of wep ...
[02:02] <Flannel> |Kamen|: Try to install the package on the console (with dpkg -i /path/to/deb.deb)
[02:02] <fearful> jdfoote2, sigh... so sorry it wasn't maxmized enough lol dumb
[02:02] <CShadowRun> aha, i have an idea
[02:02] <crdlb> CShadowRun: that option I mentioned doesn't exist? I'm looking at jaunty's nm; I can go check an intrepid system though
[02:02] <CShadowRun> maybe if we encode the ascii to hex :p
[02:02] <jdfoote2> fearful - those are just about the only problems that I can help to fix, so I'm glad that it worked :)
[02:03] <CShadowRun> crdlb it does exist, it's not the answer
[02:03] <|Kamen|> flannel: one sec trying
[02:03] <fearful> jdfoote2, :)
[02:03] <crdlb> CShadowRun: what makes you say that?
[02:03] <CShadowRun> the password is ascii, not 128bit passphrase
[02:03] <CShadowRun> the fact that we tried it?
[02:03] <Harkins> What's the name of this program? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitMountainView/Participate/Mixer?highlight=(microphone)
[02:03] <CShadowRun> about 5 times, to make sure we definatly didn't get the password wrong.
[02:03] <crdlb> CShadowRun: it could just be broken :)
[02:03] <CShadowRun> hehe
[02:03] <snowveil> I formatted an external hard drive using "sudo mkdosfs /dev/sdd1 -n marshmallow" and it's not readable by windows...any idea why?
[02:03] <fearful> jdfoote2, thanks
[02:03] <jdfoote2> t3hp00ky - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186502 - blessed google
[02:03] <crdlb> CShadowRun: 'passphrase' means text to me
[02:03] <MITM> nice highlight Harkins x)
[02:04] <pyrak> who among us is male and bearded?
[02:04] <pyrak> is the programmer beard dying?
[02:04] <pyrak> that would represent a sad day.  what an icon...
[02:04] <CShadowRun> yea, but it's not the answer since it doesn't connect
[02:04] <Harkins> MITM: eh?
[02:04] <jdfoote2> fearful, np
[02:04] <KiRiLoS> I have trouble with .Mp3 Quality suddenly,anyone willing to help me out?Thanks in advance!
[02:04] <CShadowRun> pyrak i'm growing a mistache :D
[02:04] <Flannel> pyrak: #ubuntu-offtopic would be an appropriate place for that, not here.  Thanks
[02:04] <MITM> Harkins sumMITMountain
[02:04] <CShadowRun> I'm going to try encoding the text into hex and using WEP, i read someplace that that works.
[02:04] <jdfoote2> No one in the mood to help with my network problem? :)
[02:04] <crdlb> CShadowRun: you really should just switch to WPA :/
[02:05] <crdlb> CShadowRun: unless he has a DS or something
[02:05] <CShadowRun> crdlb because i can so tell an end user how to do that :p
[02:05] <KiRiLoS> I have trouble with .Mp3 Quality suddenly,anyone willing to help me out?Thanks in advance!
[02:06] <t3hp00ky> Whats the command to uninstall an application?
[02:06] <KiRiLoS> t3hp00ky, sudo apt-get remove packagename
[02:06] <brent> apt-get remove <appname>
[02:06] <XFCEntral> t3hp00ky: "sudo apt-get remove <package_name>"
[02:07] <t3hp00ky> thanks
[02:07] <zaccour> i get a flash error everytime i try to access flash stuff online
[02:07] <|Kamen|> ok remind me how to pastebin please
[02:08] <|Kamen|> I'm seeing the problem, sort of, but I'm a bit confused here
[02:08] <crdlb> !paste > |Kamen|
[02:08] <zaccour> i get a flash error everytime i try to access flash stuff online
[02:09] <m_123> hi
[02:09] <KiRiLoS> zaccour, re-install flashplayer
[02:09] <Rozen> How do I start mono?
[02:09] <jigp> hello guys. I want to copy a tutorial but it is a flash file in the website :( how to copy the tutorial?
[02:10] <crdlb> Rozen: what does that mean? mono will run if you run an app which uses it
[02:10] <judget> jigp is that a flash video .fls?
[02:10] <|Kamen|> ok got it
[02:10] <|Kamen|> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/129037/
[02:10] <m_123> i have xp installed on vm running hardy
[02:10] <etzerd> hello all
[02:10] <etzerd> ?
[02:10] <etzerd> I have a video problem
[02:10] <m_123> i cant get to run edubuntu on vm or fluxbuntu
[02:11] <crdlb> |Kamen|: it's for the wrong version of ubuntu
[02:11] <jigp> judget : im not sure but if you right click the tutorial it says "About adobe flash player9"
[02:11] <etzerd> my laptop is a 64bit system
[02:11] <zedster> Random question, has anyone been able to get the new live show off of livephish.com ?
[02:11] <etzerd> I have a Nvidia GeForce 9300M GS
[02:11] <crdlb> |Kamen|: specifically, it's for intrepid and you're on hardy
[02:12] <zedster> it uses a java based downloader that keeps crashing my firefox
[02:12] <etzerd> the screen is very dark I cannot see the icons on the desktop too well
[02:12] <etzerd> I have the same problem with windows Vista, but when I install the driver for the Nvidia video card the screen is very shine
[02:12] <|Kamen|> hm. that....would explain things
[02:12] <ZeZu> i just upgraded to dev branch 9.04 and i have no window manager ;|
[02:13] <crdlb> ZeZu: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[02:13] <fearful> ZeZu, #ubuntu+1 is for you
[02:13] <etzerd> same thing happen with ubuntu, what can I do to solve the problem?
[02:13] <Fongy08> hey there guys]
[02:13] <jigp> judget : you can also see there if you right click the tutorial "Full screen , zoom in document,zoomout document etc" how to copy the flash file tutorial?
[02:13] <storbeck> !nvidia | etzerd
[02:13] <fearful> !hi | Fongy08
[02:13] <m_123> ubuntu is great
[02:13] <Fongy08> i am having trouble upgrading my ubuntu install via netowkr upgrace
[02:13] <Fongy08> upgrade*
[02:13] <Fongy08> are you guys able to help me out?
[02:13] <_Linuxx_> etzerd, sent you a IM
[02:14] <etzerd> thanks ubottu
[02:14] <fearful> Fongy08, I'm sure there are many people here who can, just we need more specific details :p
[02:14] <zedster> http://www.livephish.com/live-music/0,451/Phish-mp3-flac-download-3-6-2009-Hampton-Coliseum-Hampton-VA.html , I know you guys have to sign in, but can some see if the download manager works on your computer ?
[02:14] <Fongy08> :)
[02:14] <Fongy08> well
[02:14] <efeX^> How can i aquire java?
[02:14] <tony426> any way to set launch options in the gnome menu?
[02:14] <storbeck> !java | efeX^
[02:14] <Fongy08> i have 7.04 installed at the moment - trying to go to 7.10 via the update manager
[02:14] <Fongy08> however, when doing this it can't grab the prerequisites when installing it
[02:15] <michelle_> hi guys, i having problem with my broadcom ethernet adapter
[02:15] <Fongy08> it says that the system is upto date also
[02:15] <Fongy08> so yeah... weird..
[02:15] <fearful> Fongy08, whats your method of upgrading, through terminal or the update manager
[02:15] <michelle_> it isn't reconized, i've a aspire 5920
[02:15] <Fongy08> update manager fearful
[02:15] <m_123> has any i got fluxbubuntu to run on vm in hardy?
[02:15] <fearful> Fongy08, I'm sorry I have dinner, I'll be back tho if your still in trouble
[02:15] <Fongy08> no stress dude :) enjoy the feedin :)
[02:15] <m_123> i am kinda new to this but i got xp to run in vm
[02:16] <storbeck> m_123: /join #fluxbuntu
[02:16] <m_123> i coulndt get ubuntu studio to run in vm or edubuntu
[02:16] <m_123> Thank You
[02:16] <zaccour> i get a flash error everytime i try to access flash stuff online
[02:16] <scunizi_> =
[02:16] <storbeck> !flash | zaccour
[02:16] <zaccour> is there a way to fix the flash error?
[02:16] <nibsa1242b> my DVD disk drive isn't opening is there a command line way to force it open?
[02:16] <Fongy08> eject /mnt/cdrom
[02:16] <ZykoticK9> m_123, I've managed to install Ubuntu Studio and Fluxbuntu in Vitualbox, what VM program are you using?  what error/problem are you having?
[02:17] <Fongy08> ;)
[02:17] <Fongy08> anyone able to help with the install issue i'm having ?
[02:17] <tehboriz> any freeware programs that let me do WOL in ubuntu? I seriously can't find a single one.
[02:17] <zaccour> i have flash installed, but i get an error for both firefox and epiphany
[02:17] <storbeck> zaccour: Then try a new flash :) Try gnash
[02:17] <zaccour> ok ill try that brb
[02:17] <zedster>  zaccour: in firefox goto about:plugins
[02:18] <tehboriz> no WOL in linux?
[02:18] <storbeck> What is WOL?
[02:18] <tehboriz> wake on lan
[02:18] <tehboriz> you can wake up a computer on the network with the right settings in bios
[02:18] <zaccour> in firefox where is plugins?
[02:19] <storbeck> tehboriz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234588
[02:19] <zedster> zaccour: in the address bar type "about:plugins"
[02:19] <_Linuxx_> WOL would be on the bios, not in theOS
[02:19] <Fongy08> if anyone can help with the upgrade issue im having, t would be awesome
[02:19] <zaccour> thanks
[02:20] <XFCEntral> zaccour: type "about : plugins" in your browser, a smiley is showing up when its correctly typed here--just remove the space between the words and the colon"
[02:20] <Talon^> i heard that ubuntu 9 was close to a release, i was wondering how far off that is? I've recently built a machine and want to get the 64bit version but i don't want to get 8.10 if 9 is right around the corner...
[02:20] <zedster> zaccour: the 3 I know of are about:config about:plugins and about:robots :-)
[02:20] <tehboriz> i'm looking at that now storbeck but i happen to be very new to linux and this isn't simple for me
[02:20] <tehboriz> the damn link was removed which woudlve made life easy
[02:20] <tritium> Talon^: 9.04 will be released in late April
[02:20] <Rozen> I saw somewhere that mono was for developing/making programs
[02:20] <_VIM_>   Talon^ late april
[02:20] <m_123> jaunty?
[02:20] <Rozen> actually, I saw it on the mono website
[02:20] <jigp> hello guys how to copy a flash player 9 file?its a tutorial that I wanted to copy.i don't want to print it because its 96 pages and I don't have printer...there is no options in right click that you can copy the file in the website :(
[02:21] <wilsoz> Is there anybody running the nVidia 180.29 drivers AND SLi in 8.10?
[02:21] <XFCEntral> Rozen: i use Mono
[02:21] <storbeck> jigp: Use either wget or a firefox plugin
[02:21] <m_123> not sure i have onboard video card on dimension 2400
[02:21] <efeX^> I keep getting exclude lock error when trying to install a package, it's saying i have another apt-get open but  i checked processes and i dont
[02:21] <Fongy08> anyone that could possbily help  me with my upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 so i can then upgrade to 8.10 ? anyone at all?
[02:21] <np4melol> Hi guys, how do I install my intel gfx?
[02:21] <Rozen> Is it for developing programs XFCEntral? Is it called mono basic or something.
[02:21] <storbeck> efeX^: Are you using sudo?
[02:22] <efeX^> No from the manager
[02:22] <m1r> jipg u can save it
[02:22] <shanix> does anyone know how Ubuntu can resolve the hostname in LAN without using the winbind ????
[02:22] <michelle_> any body had problems with broadcom ethernet and ubuntu 8.10?
[02:22] <m_123> i had problem with 8.1 graphics but 8.04 is flawless
[02:22] <efeX^> Add/Remove
[02:22] <_VIM_> jigp: it might be located in your /tmp because flash video files go there, so maybe that does too
[02:22] <zedster> efeX^: try apt-get install -f
[02:22] <mdlunit> I was fiddling around with my network drivers (did rmmod ath9k and added it to the blacklist... blacklist is now back to normal), and now I'm in the situation where I have to modprobe ath9k every time I reboot
[02:22] <nightrid3r> Fongy08 backup your data and install 8.10
[02:22] <zaccour> where is gnash on the plugins page?
[02:22] <mdlunit> how do I make it so it's there without me having to do that
[02:22] <zaccour> or i guess i can just check add/remove
[02:22] <Fongy08> trying to do network install if possible
[02:22] <XFCEntral> i've got a program called MonoDevelop on my desktop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MonoDevelop
[02:22] <zedster> mdlunit: so why not add a line to the boot config to do that?
[02:22] <efeX^> it says
[02:22] <m_123> im a noob so i put on avg anti virus and ucf
[02:23] <Fongy08> get what i mean nightrider?
[02:23] <HIjustme> How do I install my Intel gfx?
[02:23] <sebsebseb> m_123: what's ucf?????
[02:23] <efeX^> zedster: Unable to lock the directory, is another process using it?
[02:23] <storbeck> !intel | HIjustme
[02:23] <m_123> how do i know if its running properly the ucf?
[02:23] <mdlunit> isn't there a way to make it back to the way it was before without having to hack something in the startup scripts?
[02:23] <nightrid3r> Fongy08 there is a netinstall iso
[02:23] <sebsebseb> m_123: Linux does not need anti virus
[02:23] <Fongy08> i see.
[02:23] <m_123> a firewall i guess
[02:23] <Fongy08> can you link me?
[02:23] <Fongy08> :D
[02:23] <zedster> efeX^: sudo dpkg -a --configure , right everyone (not locked it in a while)
[02:23] <m_123> not true
[02:24] <storbeck> use iptables for your firewall.
[02:24] <Fongy08> or is it on ubuntu site?
[02:24] <sebsebseb> m_123: you should have a hardware firewall in say your router :)
[02:24] <HIjustme> Am I allowed to give links to ubuntu forum here?
[02:24] <efeX^> zedster: "database area is locked by another process"
[02:24] <_Linuxx_> hijustme, yeah, just paste them in
[02:24] <thiebaude> HIjustme: yes
[02:24] <storbeck> efeX^: Run a ps aux and then kill off the processes that are using it
[02:24] <efeX^> ps aux?
[02:24] <roshan08> i am mirroring ubuntu repo for local use i want to copy for 8.10 and 8.04 only how to do
[02:24] <storbeck> Yes
[02:25] <m_123> i meant ufw not ucf
[02:25] <efeX^> whats that
[02:25] <m_123> my bad
[02:25] <zedster> can some one test a website for me? it keeps locking my firefox
[02:25] <thiebaude> !ufw
[02:25] <storbeck> efeX^: Type it in a terminal
[02:25] <zedster> and I cannot lynx because of java
[02:25] <OptimusPrime> zedster: what is it?
[02:25] <XFCEntral> uncomplicated firewall
[02:25] <zaccour> i still get the flash error. would uninstall/reinstall fix it?
[02:25] <HIjustme> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1080300  There you go, please help :(
[02:25] <nightrid3r> Fongy08 http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:25] <zedster> OptimusPrime: http://www.livephish.com/live-music/0,451/Phish-mp3-flac-download-3-6-2009-Hampton-Coliseum-Hampton-VA.html
[02:25] <zedster> trying to download the mp3 link
[02:25] <zedster> you need to sign in
[02:26] <tritium> zedster: stay on topic, please
[02:26] <zedster> but its worth it if you like music :-)
[02:26] <Tonren> Can someone please help me fix my audio in 8.10 on a Compaq Presario laptop?
[02:26] <huwenfeng> does ubuntu 8.04 still have the runlevel? or abandoned it ?
[02:26] <nightrid3r> Fongy08 but BACKUP your stuff first
[02:26] <tritium> huwenfeng: yes
[02:26] <zedster> tritium: I want to know if its a system java issue or the site
[02:26] <OptimusPrime> zedster: worked fine for me, I have no account though so when I click the link it goes to a login page
[02:26] <huwenfeng> tritium: abandoned it ?
[02:26] <tritium> huwenfeng: no, there are runlevels
[02:26] <Rozen> XFCEntral How can I get mono develop? (I'm using a friends pc to download since I don't have internet)
[02:26] <huwenfeng> tritium: since i did not found the /etc/inittab files
[02:26] <Rozen> Or else I would apt-get it
[02:26] <Rozen> But I can't
[02:26] <zedster> meh, I guess I'll just get it off vista sometime :-(
[02:26] <m_123> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ufw-uncomplicated-firewall-for-ubuntu-hardy.html
[02:26] <bromic94> ./nick thwerath
[02:27] <huwenfeng> !runlevel
[02:27] <scientes> something in ubuntu is preventing me from installing packages from other repos
[02:27] <Rozen> !mono
[02:27] <thiebaude> zedster: i know it was off topic, but thanks
[02:27] <storbeck> huwenfeng: cd /etc/rc
[02:27] <HIjustme> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1082467  Another bit of help needed please :(
[02:27] <tritium> !runlevels | huwenfeng
[02:27] <storbeck> With the runlevel you want, of course
[02:27] <thiebaude> zedster: it sounds good on ubuntu
[02:27] <scientes> the dependancy stuff is juck wacky, like tons of stuff is specifies for only specific versions and not versions+
[02:27] <|Kamen|> anyone here messd about with ubuntu eee? its what I'm running, and I'm thinking of trying to upgrade it to intrepid
[02:27] <mdlunit> zedster: ahhh, I found it.  stupid ndiswrapper.  even after removing it, it left a config file in /etc/modprobe.d, removing it fixed it, thanks anyway :)
[02:27] <Tonren> I've tried removing pulseaudio from the list of services with bootup-manager, but I still have basically no sound functionality with flash.
[02:27] <jigp> storbeck _VIM_ : how to wget this http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4294516/dns-tutorial . I tried to wget http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4294516/dns-tutorial ..but I get only the html..not the tutorial..
[02:27] <OptimusPrime> !upstart
[02:28] <HIjustme> Can anyone tell me how to get my microphone to work on Ventrilo using Wine?
[02:28] <zedster> mdlunit: hey at least I put you in the right place!
[02:28] <XFCEntral> Rozen: you can get the source code on the website, but ill look for .debs real quick
[02:28] <thewrath> on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall under package integration that is for onlu ubuntu 8.1 right?
[02:28] <zedster> thiebaude: did you dl each song one by one or get the dl manager to work?
[02:29] <Maahes> can someone help me? I'm trying to get envy-ng nvidia settings to work and it just keeps hanging, giving me the error that it's rejecting it from the localhost, http://rafb.net/p/GdEXlL17.html (scroll to bottom) here's my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/p/J09LpS76.html I have no idea what's wrong, and its been broken for two days, it broke after I crashed and did an fsck
[02:29] <thiebaude> zedster: i just clicked the first song and it just played, quality is great, btw i was born in hampton
[02:29] <nightrid3r> jigp the doc is a flash don't think you can just save it
[02:29] <HIjustme> Can anyone tell me how to get my microphone to work on Ventrilo using Wine?
[02:30] <tritium> Maahes: we don't recommend or support envy-ng
[02:30] <huwenfeng> oh , good,  but the upstart seems to be like freebsd's init method
[02:30] <XFCEntral> Rozen: would you be using MonoDevelop on 8.04 or 8.10?
[02:30] <sebsebseb> HIjustme: does it work in Ubuntu?
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> HIjustme, have you checked out http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9832 ?  I don't use Ventrilo so don't know any specifics.
[02:30] <huwenfeng> good, i love it
[02:30] <thiebaude> zedster: do got all the codecs?
[02:30] <Maahes> tritium, do you know where I can go ask for someone's help with it?
[02:30] <thiebaude> ddo you
[02:30] <thiebaude> do
[02:30] <Maahes> as it was working just fine two days ago
[02:30] <tritium> Maahes: no, sorry
[02:31] <zedster> thiebaude: yes, the problem was not in listening it was in trying to download them all
[02:31] <HIjustme> sebsebseb: yes i hear myself through the speakers, but nothing is picked up in Ventrilo, only hear people
[02:31] <_VIM_> jigp: this might be a bit of an overkill but wget --recursive  --page-requisites --convert-links www.docstoc.com/docs/4294516/         might work
[02:31] <|Kamen|> ok, pidgin now works with icq again. thanks everybody, especially crdlb for catching my initial goof
[02:31] <sebsebseb> HIjustme: ok try #winehq
[02:31] <Rozen> 8.04 is hardy right XFCEntral?
[02:31] <sebsebseb> 8.04 is hardy yes
[02:31] <XFCEntral> Rozen: thats correct
[02:31] <HIjustme> sebsebseb: ok thanks
[02:32] <sebsebseb> HIjustme: no problem
[02:32] <m_123> how long has ubuntu been around?
[02:32] <Rozen> k wlel I forgot, so yeah hardy
[02:32] <sebsebseb> m_123: since October 2004
[02:32] <m_123> i just seen irc logs for this chan going back to 04
[02:32] <XFCEntral> Rozen: http://www.getdeb.net/app/MonoDevelop
[02:32] <_VIM_> since 4.10
[02:32] <m_123> Cool
[02:33] <jigp> nightrid3r how to save it?
[02:33] <m_123> i hsvent used excursion in years
[02:33] <sebsebseb> m_123: me being banned from the channel, some where in old logs LOL :D
[02:33] <Rozen> Thank You
[02:33] <m_123> for what?
[02:33] <XFCEntral> no problem
[02:33] <nightrid3r> jigp there are firefox plugins that can do that
[02:33] <sebsebseb> m_123: being an idiot?
[02:34] <m_123> £aughing My Âss Õff
[02:34] <thiebaude> zedster: i see what you mean, i don't know how to download it
[02:34] <m_123> does efnet still work?
[02:34] <sleepinglion> #lisp
[02:34] <HIjustme> Is there a quick way to get/install ndiswrapper?
[02:34] <Rozen> Will the .deb ask me for any additional files?
[02:34] <m_123> i couldn't connect
[02:34] <jigp> _VIM_ it is still dowloading  wget --recursive  --page-requisites --convert-links www.docstoc.com/docs/4294516/
[02:35] <|Kamen|> efnet? wow theres memories
[02:35] <el_taco> i'm builing a new server just wondered if anyone has an opinion on using phenmon over opterons/
[02:35] <zaccour> is there a way to fix flash error? i checked the forums but no luck. gnash did not work either
[02:35] <tony426> anyone know where game icons are installed so i can use them for shortcuts?
[02:35] <zaccour> and uninstall/reinstall didnt work
[02:35] <ateam201>  anyone tried using genpix skywalker for ubuntu
[02:35] <thiebaude> zaccour: gnash never worked for me
[02:35] <areay> i've changed my ubuntu password and cant remember it
[02:35] <m_123> i was even on dalnet before that
[02:35] <areay> but i'm still logged in
[02:35] <_VIM_> jigp: that wget that i pasted will grab EVERYTHING from that "4294516" folder on that site, i said maybe an Overkill :)
[02:35] <XFCEntral> Rozen: those three packages should be all you need, no other dependencies as far as i know
[02:35] <sebsebseb> areay: ok no problem you can change it easilley
[02:35] <zaccour> is there a way to fix flash?
[02:36] <Rozen> K :)
[02:36] <zaccour> could it be a but in alpha?
[02:36] <areay> sebsebseb, ok kool how cuz i'm freakin out
[02:36] <m_123> and i still dont know command line
[02:36] <sebsebseb> areay: sudo passwd yourusername
[02:36] <jigp> _VIM_ how much disk will it use?
[02:36] <Fongy08> hey guys
[02:36] <m_123> i must be slow
[02:36] <zaccour> i installed alpha because after the first time i update in 8.10 the wired internet dont work so i had to upgrade to alpha
[02:36] <tritium> sebsebseb: he'll need his password for sudo
[02:36] <thiebaude> zaccour: how did you download flash?
[02:36] <m_123> or just really high
[02:36] <sebsebseb> tritium: oh yeah good point
[02:36] <Rozen> What's better 32 or 64?
[02:36] <zaccour> in the browser
[02:36] <_VIM_> jigp: not for sure, it might be pretty large
[02:36] <sebsebseb> tritium: unless he has mounted the file system on Live CD
[02:37] <zedster> Rozen: its a case by case call
[02:37] <Fongy08> am still trying to do a network upgrade without needing to download the izo
[02:37] <areay> sebsebseb, nah its askin me for the password... im in the only account with root privileges :S
[02:37] <Fongy08> iso*
[02:37] <zaccour> i just installed the plugin
[02:37] <sebsebseb> areay: ok you need to be on the live cd with your Linux file system mounted, then you can do that command
[02:37] <tritium> sebsebseb: yes, that would be a good method
[02:37] <thiebaude> zaccour: goto adobe and download the .deb file for it
[02:37] <XFCEntral> Rozen: do you have a dual-core CPU?
[02:37] <nibsa1242b> what should I do to diagnose frequent crashes of VLC?
[02:37] <zaccour> ok thanks ill try that
[02:37] <Rozen> I don't know.
[02:37] <zaccour> whats the link?
[02:37] <storbeck> jigp: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006
[02:37] <thiebaude> yw, zaccour
[02:37] <Rozen> How do I tell what kind I have?
[02:37] <zedster> XFCEntral: Even then, package compliance wise still some issues with 64-bit
[02:37] <areay> sebsebseb, ok kool i'll tryit
[02:37] <nibsa1242b> Rozen: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:37] <XFCEntral> so best to stick with 32 regardless?
[02:38] <Rozen> I'll stick with 32
[02:38] <m_123> any 1 know how to make it so the vm xp install recognises and installs my usb hd?
[02:38] <XFCEntral> i always run 32, its all ive got
[02:38] <storbeck> I have a dual core and I have yet to put my faith in a 64bit app/os
[02:38] <tritium> m_123: ubuntu support here, not XP, VM or otherwise
[02:38] <sebsebseb> areay: I hope you changed/change it to something good with letters and numbers
[02:38] <|ns|nR8> m_123, what vm software you using ?
[02:38] <zedster> good, I was afraid I was about to start a flame war
[02:38] <thiebaude> lol
[02:39] <XFCEntral> hehe
[02:39] <m_123> sun xvm
[02:39] <zaccour> would flash for 8.4 work? thats the only .deb. im using the alpha release of 9.04 right now
[02:39] <Rozen> A last quick question, can I make windows linux and mac programs with it, or I limited here?
[02:40] <thiebaude> zaccour: yea, it's also for 8.10 .deb
[02:40] <zedster> zaccour: are you trying to use an alpha as a full time os? thats a bad idea
[02:40] <usser> zaccour, whats wrong with flash in 9.04 worsk fine for me
[02:40] <kdub> zaccour: very bad idea
[02:40] <tritium> zaccour: if you need assistance with 9.04, #ubuntu+1, please
[02:40] <zedster> in fact a native install of an alpha is a bad idea, run them in VM
[02:40] <zedster> Look up ubuntu intel 3945 for the reason I say this
[02:40] <thiebaude> zaccour: are you using 9.04?
[02:40] <roshan08> i am mirroring ubuntu repo using rsync for local use i want to copy for 8.10 and 8.04 only how to do
[02:40] <zaccour> i have to use alpha, because with 8.10 my wired internet stops working after the first updates
[02:41] <zedster> zaccour: did you try wicd?
[02:41] <areay> sebsebseb, thats why i forgot it in the first place
[02:41] <huwenfeng> oh, does any one have a intel 4500 on board graphic card?
[02:41] <sebsebseb> zaccour: alpha as in jaunty?
[02:41] <zaccour> yes
[02:41] <areay> sebsebseb, and i changed everything too
[02:41] <huwenfeng> does 9.04 support that graphic card now?
[02:41] <Meckin> Hey guys
[02:41] <areay> sebsebseb, cuz some prick peeked at my password
[02:41] <thiebaude> i wish i could run 9.04 but bug 304871 is my problem
[02:41] <dotblank> Does it matter if the preseeded file is in oder (th options within)?
[02:42] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm using ndiswrapper for wireless.  Right now bcm43xx is blacklisted in favor of b43 and ssb, but if I blacklist those in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and put ndiswrapper in /etc/modules, it simply doesn't work!  My wifi light doesn't come on.  What's going on?
[02:42] <Rozen> Well I answered my own question in the monodevelop site, so THANK YOU VERY MUCH XFCEntral :)
[02:42] <sebsebseb> areay: ROFLMFAO
[02:42] <XFCEntral> Rozen: oh i see, no problem! good luck and have fun with it
[02:42] <HIjustme> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1080300  There you go, please help :(
[02:43] <zaccour> i downloaded from adobe, it said same version is already installed
[02:43] <usser> !304871
[02:43] <usser> !bug 304871
[02:43] <Rozen> Bye
[02:43] <zaccour> have i found a bug in the 9.04 alpha?
[02:43] <asdfqwer> anyone use xchat on gnome?
[02:43] <|ns|nR8> ive found lots zaccour...dont be shocked
[02:43] <Meckin> Does anyone know or have a guide how to install a GUI on a vps using yum
[02:44] <_VIM_> yum? O.o
[02:44] <asdfqwer> where am i supposed to edit my default server when i launch xchat?
[02:44] <sebsebseb> asdfqwer: loads of people do, but Xchat hummmmmmm
[02:44] <_Linuxx_> meckin whos hosting the vps?
[02:44] <thiebaude> zaccour: its still in delvelopment, i would'd be surprised
[02:44] <sebsebseb> asdfqwer: sudo apt-get install konversation :)
[02:44] <asdfqwer> sebsebseb, sounds like a kde app :(
[02:44] <zaccour> ok ill just wait it out. will beta come out soon?
[02:44] <Guest41133> ...
[02:44] <_VIM_> asdfqwer: it is but it's great
[02:44] <Guest41133> ban
[02:44] <Guest41133> me
[02:44] <Guest41133> ...
[02:45] <Guest41133> ...
[02:45] <FloodBot1> Guest41133: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:45] <asdfqwer> _VIM_, why so?
[02:45] <sebsebseb> asdfqwer: yep what VIM said
[02:45] <asdfqwer> where am i supposed to edit my default server when i launch xchat?
[02:45] <LjL> ok...
[02:45] <_VIM_> asdfqwer: it's offtopic to continue talking about konversation, just take our word for it :)
[02:45] <zedster> zaccour: ubuntu is always released in either April or Oct, the naming scheme is year and month
[02:45] <thiebaude> asdfqwer: add new network
[02:46] <zaccour> i know, but when is the beta release? almost everything tends to work great in beta
[02:46] <asdfqwer> 13 dependencies, i'll check it out
[02:46] <HIjustme> Can anyone tell me how to install my INtel gfx?
[02:46] <skel> has anyone qa'd the evolution-mapi support for exchange in 9.04 alphas yet?
[02:46] <asdfqwer> thiebaude, nah, i need to edit my default network; as of now, it boots to debian's servers
[02:46] <usser> HIjustme, what chipset/model?
[02:47] <storbeck> Meckin: You do realise that yum is for redhat, not ubuntu, right?
[02:47] <_VIM_> whats with all the jaunty talk lately? Sheesh go to #Ubuntu+1  for that
[02:47] <HIjustme> usser:how do i find out? im new to ubuntu
[02:47] <usser> HIjustme, open terminal and type lspci | grep VGA what does it say?
[02:48] <usser> no but seriously upgrading to jaunty right now is just madness
[02:48] <|Kamen|> first rumblings I've heard of jaunty. whats the animal for that one?
[02:48] <_VIM_> jackalope
[02:49] <HIjustme> usser:VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics
[02:49] <HIjustme> usser:that?
[02:49] <areay> sebsebseb, when i boot into the livecd will the passwd command know i mean for the system that's installed
[02:49] <usser> HIjustme, yep, shouldn't require any tweaking at all. what version of ubuntu are you using? what does glxinfo | grep direct say?
[02:50] <sebsebseb> areay: no you have to mount your Linux install and cd  into it
[02:50] <ZykoticK9> usser, i was told that 8.10 it always says Yes for direct rendering
[02:50] <sebsebseb> areay: or something like that
[02:50] <tony426> anyone know where icons are stored?
[02:50] <sebsebseb> !password
[02:50] <dotblank> does it matter if a preseed file's options are in order?
[02:50] <HIjustme> usser:direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[02:50] <HIjustme> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[02:50] <usser> ZykoticK9, :) ^
[02:51] <zeldarocks> my install failed
[02:51] <ZykoticK9> HIjustme, what version of Ubuntu are you currently using?
[02:51] <usser> HIjustme, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:51] <usser> !pastebin | HIjustme
[02:51] <usser> tony426, /usr/share/icons, /usr/share/pixmaps
[02:52] <Tonren> Okay... can anyone help me fix my sound, or my wireless, on my Ubuntu 8.10 install?  I have a laptop with an ATI IXP.
[02:52] <|Kamen|> heh. wonder how much of a pita its gonna be for me to up to intrepid
[02:53] <holyguyver> Are there any programs that I can use to make a slideshow picture movie with music in a format like avi or mpeg?
[02:53] <HIjustme> ZykoticK9: 8.04
[02:53] <CrIP> hey guys how do i install putyy on ubuntu ?
[02:53] <ateam201>  anyone tried using genpix skywalker for mythbuntu?
[02:54] <dotblank> does it matter if a preseed file's options are in order?
[02:54] <usser> CrIP, sudo apt-get install putty?
[02:55] <holyguyver> Are there any programs that I can use to make a slideshow picture movie with music in a format like avi or mpeg?
[02:55] <CrIP> Usser cheers mate
[02:55] <usser> CrIP, np :)
[02:57] <dotblank> does it matter if a preseed file's options are in order?
[02:57] <tritium> !repeat | dotblank
[02:58] <sagredo> yo
[02:58] <n2diy> chkrootkit is reporting a sniffer on eth0. This is a virgin install, but it was on the lan during the install. Googling hints this could be a false positive?
[02:59] <Bao__> 。。。。。。。
[02:59] <sagredo> someone want to try helping me get 'alarm-clock' to work
[03:02] <Bao__> I am a new had here,I'm tyring to find out how to use this tool,(my english is very very  poor)there may be  a lot of mistakes in my words ,please check them out and tell me ,thank you
[03:02] <usser> !pastebin | HIjustme
[03:05] <snowveil> I just formatted my external HDD using mkdosfs and gparted sees it as "unallocated"...though I can copy files to it
[03:06] <snowveil> any ideas as to why this would be the case?
[03:06] <phuzion> After switching to Ubuntu, I have noticed that my speakers are noticeably quieter than when I had Vista on my machine.  Is there a way to update a driver, or override something and make this louder?  The speakers are almost inaudible.
[03:06] <|ns|nR8> phnom_, double click on volume control and turn up master and pcm
[03:06] <|ns|nR8> sorry phuzion
[03:06] <thiebaude> phuzion: is the volumn turned up in the volumn control panel?
[03:07] <kringel> phuzion, open a terminal type alsamixer and trigger PCM to the top, alternatively use the volume icon with right click in the panel
[03:07] <thiebaude> yup
[03:07] <phuzion> Thanks
[03:07] <HIjustme> Can anyone tell me how to install my INtel gfx?
[03:08] <tritium> HIjustme: you asked that earlier.  There is nothing to do.  It is automatic.
[03:09] <LakesProse> I tried to apt-get insall a packet and it failed and it didn't matter except that now, each time I get a new package, it installs the new one properly but also wants to try to install the old again and again it doesn't work
[03:09] <kringel> phuzion:  be sure PCM and if available PCM2 are 100%, adjust the volume only with the master channel. if audio is crappy set the PCMs to around 80 to 85 percent
[03:09] <LakesProse> is there some sort of apt-get stop trying ?
[03:09] <HIjustme> tritium:yeah but I think my xorg.conf is wrong
[03:10] <tritium> HIjustme: why?
[03:10] <kringel> Lakesprose: which package exactly? you can uninstall it first by sudo apt-get remove --purge package
[03:10] <HIjustme> tritium:Can I pastebin you it? see what you think maybe?
[03:10] <Tonren> Can anyone help me figure out why, even when I blacklist ssb and b43, ssb still starts up and steals my wifi firmware from ndiswrapper?
[03:10] <LakesProse> kringel: backuppc is the name of the package
[03:11] <tritium> HIjustme: sure
[03:12] <HIjustme> tritium:http://paste.ubuntu.com/129060/
[03:12] <LakesProse> kringel: em em, it seemed to work, thanks
[03:12] <crdlb> HIjustme: why did you compile the intel driver yourself?
[03:12] <HIjustme> crdlb:what?
[03:12] <tritium> HIjustme: looks normal.  What is your concern with it?
[03:12] <AutoMatriX> good morning, evening night gentle people
[03:12] <kringel> LakesProse you're welcome, though I have no experience with this program and why it does not install correctly
[03:13] <crdlb> HIjustme: I'm looking at the forum post you linked to
[03:13] <HIjustme> tritium: I have really low FPS in a online game, ET. I thought i cant have done it right
[03:13] <LakesProse> kringel: it works fine usually, can't get all perfect I imagine
[03:13] <kringel> LakesProse: if you mess something with apt up, sudo dpkg --configure -a and sudo apt-get -f install are very helpful also
[03:13] <crdlb> HIjustme: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:13] <HIjustme> crdlb:Oh ok, do you know whats wrong?
[03:13] <jeeves> what is the syntax to rdiff a directory to a remote server backup?
[03:14] <HIjustme> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/129061/
[03:14] <n2diy_> Are user id numbers important? I'm restoring a user to this box, and he will have a different id from what the restore will reflect.
[03:14] <nibsa1242b> Please help with frequent VLC crashes details -> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m52de18c7
[03:15] <usser> n2diy_, yes uids are very important even if the user name's the same and uid different you wont have access
[03:15] <nibsa1242b> n2diy_: I don't know too much about that, but in my experience he'll need to have the same uid.
[03:15] <tritium> HIjustme: you're definitely using Intel driver
[03:16] <wartalker>  /join #linux
[03:16] <HIjustme> tritium:Hmm okay, thanks.
[03:16] <tritium> HIjustme: You have to keep in mind that Intel drivers don't perform anywhere near as well as nVidia or ATI for accelerated 3D
[03:16] <n2diy_> usser: ok, is there a work around other than re-installing?
[03:16] <crdlb> HIjustme: (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID.
[03:16] <usser> HIjustme, tritium his is broken,
[03:16] <crdlb> you have no 3d
[03:16] <tritium> usser: yes, I see that
[03:16] <HIjustme> tritium: ok, i was told on a forum i could give it a go
[03:17] <tritium> HIjustme: you can, and there is a problem (see above)
[03:17] <usser> n2diy_, sudo chown -R 1000:1000 /path/to/directory
[03:17] <usser> n2diy_, where 1000:1000 are uid and gid of the new user
[03:17] <HIjustme> crdlb:what is tthat
[03:17] <sagredo> alright
[03:17] <Tonren> Anyone...?  ndiswrapper vs. ssb?  pulseaudio vs. alsa?
[03:18] <usser> HIjustme, cat you paste the results of groups command, should be one line
[03:18] <sagredo> for the logs, I got alarm-clock to work, I don't know what I did to fix it, but it's working. I would use the shell but I don't know how to program fades and you got to have a smooth transition when waking up
[03:18] <usser> HIjustme, also make sure /dev/dri exists
[03:19] <kringel> by the way, does anyone here know about broadcom issues on HP laptops? the wireless device does not show up anymore even not with lspci or lshw -c Network  / also modules are not loaded anymore, but lsmod shows me that a bnep a bluetooth module gets loaded, and iwconfig shows no wireless device anymore, but a pan0 (I guess bluetooth?) however, in windows the wireless also disappeared completely. so I guess it is a hardware defect
[03:20] <kringel> funny though, that my laptop (HP G6050EG) has no bluetooth
[03:20] <HIjustme> usser: yes it exists, what command exactly? im new :(
[03:20] <usser> HIjustme, ls -al /dev/dri
[03:20] <usser> HIjustme, what does groups command say?
[03:20] <brent_> kringel - I have a friend who has an HP with broadcom wireless, and his connection is painfully slow, but only when  using certain routers, a very strange problem.
[03:21] <HIjustme> usser: name root adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev users scanner fuse lpadmin admin sambashare
[03:21] <jeeeez> hi, how do i mount a partition with write permissions enabled?
[03:22] <ZykoticK9> remove AVG?  after reading all these people worried about viruses earlier, I decided to give AVG a try (now i really wish I hadn't).  other then manually removing the files listed in the deb's "Included Files" is there a faster way to uninstall it?  an "apt-cache search avg" does not actually list the AVG program or gui.  the deb reports the package name as avg75fld, but "sudo apt-get remove avg75fld" just reports "Couldn't find package..."
[03:22] <usser> HIjustme, ls -al /dev/dri
[03:22] <Wi_> hi
[03:22] <n2diy_> usser: ok. the current users has uid 1000, so I'd have to change that, add the new user, and give him uid 1000, right?
[03:22] <HIjustme> usser: total 0
[03:22] <HIjustme> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root     60 2009-03-10 00:39 .
[03:22] <HIjustme> drwxr-xr-x 13 root root  14400 2009-03-10 01:03 ..
[03:22] <HIjustme> crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 226, 0 2009-03-10 00:39 card0
[03:22] <FloodBot1> HIjustme: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:22] <Wi_> can u help me?
[03:23] <usser> HIjustme, the permissions on /dev/dri are messed up
[03:23] <kringel> brent_ i found on google that many suffer from suddenly disappeared wireless devices on HP dv series and G6000 and all related. before mine was slow with feisty and gutsy, but since hardy with the new b43 it worked nearly perfectly. but now it's gone. I guess HP is aware of this. thanks anyway
[03:23] <HIjustme> usser: oh
[03:23] <usser> HIjustme, do this sudo chown root:video
[03:23] <usser> HIjustme, err
[03:23] <sagredo> Does Mark Shuttlesworth ever cruz IRC?
[03:23] <tritium> sagredo: yes
[03:23] <usser> HIjustme, sudo chown -R root:video /dev/dri
[03:23] <Wi_> how to mount partiotions after rebooting?
[03:23] <sagredo> or is he too busy chilling in outer space
[03:23] <kringel> sagredo: as sabdfl ;-)
[03:23] <jeeeez> hi, how do i mount a partition with write permissions enabled?
[03:23] <sagredo> kringel: :x, what is the meaning?
[03:24] <HIjustme> usser: nothing happens
[03:24] <kringel> sagredo: self announced benevolent dictator for lifetime (I guess)
[03:24] <usser> HIjustme, nothing supposed to happen :) try restarting xorg
[03:24] <jrib> kringel: appointed
[03:24] <usser> HIjustme, ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:24] <crdlb> usser: X already runs as root
[03:25] <tritium> kringel: self-appointed
[03:25] <kringel> yes, self-appointed :-D
[03:25] <sagredo> kringel: wow, makes sense
[03:25] <sagredo> he must have been thinking about this for a long time
[03:26] <usser> crdlb, i suppose it does with gdm. its just that i had the same problem user wasnt in video group and /dev/dri was owned by root:root
[03:26] <jrib> sagredo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_Dictator_For_Life
[03:26] <jeeeez> why does nautilus open up in a weird way[the window without any theme] when i use sudo nautilus?
[03:26] <HIjustme> usser:done
[03:26] <usser> crdlb, and dri wasnt working on the users account
[03:26] <Wicked> !backup
[03:26] <crdlb> usser: sure, but if there's an EE in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, you can rule out permissions problems
[03:26] <usser> HIjustme, try glxinfo | grep direct
[03:26] <crdlb> which there is in his case
[03:27] <Pirate-King> hello
[03:27] <usser> crdlb, i had actually EE in xorg.log saying something along similar lines aboun not being able to initialize dri
[03:27] <sagredo> jrib: impressive link
[03:27] <HIjustme> usser: same as last time
[03:27] <Pirate-King> anyone using a Quick cam for notebooks in ubuntu 8.10 with skype?
[03:27] <areay> sebsebseb, i was lucky.... i managed to get my web host to email the password to a new email address...
[03:28] <sebsebseb> areay: lol ok well you can use the live cd to reset them
[03:28] <usser> HIjustme, hm
[03:28] <sebsebseb> areay: and passwords in emails I don't think is that secure, even though it's done for a lot of stuff
[03:29] <HIjustme> usser: so what was the problem you found?
[03:29] <areay> sebsebseb, i know i would normally complain
[03:29] <usser> HIjustme, mine problem was a permissions problem which you just ran a fix for. it appears your case is different
[03:30] <areay> sebsebseb, its 3:30am here man im glad my works done for the night
[03:30] <sebsebseb> areay: yeah here to
[03:30] <sebsebseb> areay: so your from UK?
[03:30] <areay> sebsebseb, im from california, but im i live in the UK now... west sussex
[03:30] <areay> sebsebseb, u?
[03:30] <sebsebseb> areay: South West
[03:30] <HIjustme> sebsebseb : areay : Im from UK too. :)
[03:30] <tritium> areay, sebsebseb: #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[03:31] <|Rad|> hi all
[03:31] <sebsebseb> HIjustme: ok where, and yeah we are off topic hum
[03:31] <areay> tritium lol sorry
[03:31] <grayhane> how do I install a program I downloaded that is in a tar.bz2 file ?
[03:31] <jrib> grayhane: what program?
[03:32] <HIjustme> usser:damn
[03:32] <usser> HIjustme, can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:32] <sebsebseb> or maybe we should go to #ubuntu-uk  :D  for off topic
[03:32] <Pirate_king> anyone using a Quick cam for notebooks in ubuntu 8.10 with skype?
[03:32] <grayhane> jrib Pidgin, the program will not work any longer on icq till I upgrade it
[03:33] <wolter> anybody here with a dell xps m1530 ?
[03:33] <jrib> grayhane: were you asking before about getdeb?
[03:33] <grayhane> jrib, no, I need to upgrade pidgin on my ubuntu system
[03:34] <HIjustme> usser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/129060/
[03:34] <akurei> grayhane: y? because icq locked you out?
[03:34] <wolter> anybody using pidgin in ubuntu?
[03:34] <akurei> wolter: y
[03:34] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, :me
[03:34] <HIjustme> wolter - yes
[03:34] <mohan_> hi
[03:34] <wolter> oh, i mean, bonjour
[03:34] <wolter> the pidgin bonjour plugin
[03:34] <akurei> nope
[03:35] <jrib> grayhane: have you checked the relevant bug at bugs.ubuntu.com?  There is usually a sane solution there (maybe a package in -proposed for example)
[03:35] <grayhane> akurei, not sure if it was icq or the pidgin program, just said I needed to upgrade pidgin so I need to know how to install it\
[03:35] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : no i don't use it:(
[03:35] <wolter> nobody?
[03:35] <wolter> oh
[03:35] <wolter> sad.
[03:35] <usser> HIjustme, can you backup your xorg.conf
[03:35] <wolter> hahah
[03:35] <FloodBot1> wolter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:35] <mohan_> What are all the dependent files for compiling and installing CINELERRA in Ubuntu intreped 8.10 64bit?
[03:35] <usser> HIjustme, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf
[03:35] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : what is the problem???
[03:35] <genesismachine> is there a list of officially supported cameras in ubuntu?
[03:35] <|Rad|> i need to clone my actual hd (20 gb IDE) to a new 80gb IDE Hd, i did it with the command "dd" at console, but the problem is -dd- made the same partition 20gb and is not showing  all the space left, what can i do
[03:35] <akurei> grayhane: ICQ locked all not-official-clients users out. again. (that's why people started using Jabber/XMPP) You can get the "working" deb from pidgin.im . it will fuck up your apt though.
[03:35] <|Rad|> to have at least 60gb free
[03:36] <usser> |Rad|, grow the partition with gparted
[03:36] <AETE_KRAOUD> genesismachine, : for linux i think there is a site called linux devices
[03:36] <wolter> AETE_KRAOUD, that i get a kernel panic when i enable the account. I know its not pidgin, but rather a problem with my wireless card.
[03:36] <usser> |Rad|, boot into livecd and resize the partition that is
[03:36] <|Rad|> ok
[03:36] <wolter> genesismachine, what type of cameras?
[03:36] <HIjustme> usser: i did the last command you gave me
[03:36] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : hmmm kernel panic e? ohhh that's bad
[03:36] <wolter> AETE_KRAOUD, real bad.
[03:36] <usser> HIjustme, cool can you try using this file instead, open xorg.conf in gedit sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:36] <|Rad|> ok and after that...i just remove the 20gb drive and boot it and thats it?
[03:37] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : are u using the right drivers??
[03:37] <usser> HIjustme, and replace its contents with http://paste.ubuntu.com/129067/
[03:37] <grayhane> akurei, I did get the new program from pidgin, just need to know how to install it. it is in a tar.bz2 file
[03:37] <usser> |Rad|, 20gb is still in the system?
[03:37] <wolter> AETE_KRAOUD, it happened spontaneously before, but i compiled some drivers and now its only with bonjour.
[03:37] <genesismachine> wolter: I have a canon powershot sd770is that I just bought and it doesn't detect in ubuntu 8.10
[03:37] <|Rad|> this is the sistem im on now
[03:37] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : have you tried the modrope command???
[03:37] <|Rad|> 20gb
[03:37] <usser> |Rad|, oh so you re not booted into your new partition?
[03:37] <Armagguedes> hello
[03:37] <jrib> grayhane: check the bug tracker for a better solution first
[03:37] <Kira> Does the tomcat6 package from aptitude come with Tomcat Native?
[03:37] <tritium> AETE_KRAOUD: you mean "modprobe" ;)
[03:37] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : to test some drivers may confilct
[03:37] <wolter> AETE_KRAOUD, no, with which driver?
[03:37] <|Rad|> not yet
[03:38] <usser> |Rad|, you can resize it right now, no need to boot livecd
[03:38] <usser> |Rad|, sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:38] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to register my nickname
[03:38] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : you have to test each one:(
[03:38] <usser> |Rad|, sudo gparted from there on its pretty self explanatory
[03:38] <tritium> !register | DarkKnight
[03:38] <jrib> !register > DarkKnight
[03:38] <|Rad|> usser, i have it, let me try
[03:38] <HIjustme> usser: done
[03:38] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : one on one off and so on...
[03:38] <usser> HIjustme, saved the file?
[03:38] <akurei> grayhane: you will need to compile it.
[03:38] <akurei> grayhane: but wait
[03:38] <HIjustme> usser - yep
[03:38] <akurei> grayhane: one sec
[03:38] <usser> HIjustme, restart xorg again, ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:39] <HIjustme> ok
[03:39] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : excpet if you have find someone with the same problem
[03:39] <|Rad|> usser can i pm you?
[03:39] <usser> |Rad|, sure
[03:39] <HIjustme> usser:back
[03:40] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : or if you are in the mood to debugging for weeks...:(
[03:40] <wolter> AETE_KRAOUD, well, the bug is published on launchpad and several people have submitted bug reports and syslogs, yet there is no solution.
[03:40] <usser> HIjustme, glxinfo | grep direct
[03:40] <wolter> not yet.
[03:40] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : hmmm
[03:40] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : trial and error :(
[03:40] <HIjustme> usser:OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:40] <AETE_KRAOUD> wolter, : try one after the other and after you make all the combinations you will see
[03:41] <usser> HIjustme, argh well its getting better, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:41] <|chiz|> O
[03:41] <wolter> AETE_KRAOUD, but i don't know which to try!
[03:41] <akurei> grayhane: stand by
[03:41] <akurei> grayhane: searching for thread
[03:41] <|chiz|> I'm trying to play a DVD Movie and I keep getting that it totem cannot read source, I tried two disks
[03:41] <wolter> AETE_KRAOUD, anyway, thanks for your interest.  My email is in the pm. Thanks.
[03:45] <maxagaz> evolution seems to have bugs on hardy
[03:45] <tritium> akurei: it's channel policy.  Cut the attitude.
[03:45] <maxagaz> especially when using filters
[03:45] <crdlb> qcjn: what are you building?
[03:45] <HIjustme> usser: Well? :)
[03:45] <akurei> gosh
[03:46] <zgmf-x42s> uhhhhhhhh anyone??
[03:46] <fearful> akurei, thats the way life is, filled with policies and such :p
[03:46] <revenger98> hi! someone using SQUID ?
[03:46] <lokoabreu> hello, everytime i start linux.. when is loading... it keeps about 10 seconds loading this: piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.3:  Host SMBus controller not enabled!
[03:46] <lokoabreu> any idea?
[03:46] <akurei> if i wouldn't like you guys so much...
[03:46] <r3nt4c0p> anyone willing to help a noobie set up ubuntu as we speak?  I'm on step 4 of 7 in the partitioning area
[03:46] <genesismachine> yeah guys, the camera (as far as ubuntu is concerned) just doesn't seem to exist. It doesn't even mount or anything. The camera also seems to be getting no signal from my comp... It's in the correct mode, so I'm at a loss for what to do
[03:46] <usser> HIjustme, im kind of lost, trying to google it
[03:46] <akurei> r3nt4c0p: what do you need to know?
[03:46] <gonewestcoast> genesismachine: What make and model of camera?
[03:47] <gonewestcoast> genesismachine: Does dmesg detect its presence?
[03:47] <genesismachine> r3nt4c0p: sure, if you have questions, you can ask me, but I don't know for how I'll be on
[03:47] <HIjustme> usser:ok, so basically my gfx IS installed but not configured or something?
[03:47] <r3nt4c0p> my options are Guided-use entire disk, or manual...i'm on a computer with XP and I'd rather not wipe the disk
[03:47] <revenger98> I need to use ETTERCAP on SQUID ? is it possible?
[03:47] <genesismachine> gonewestcoast: canon powershot sd770is. There's no info online regarding it + ubuntu. I don't know what dmesg is, gimme a sec to look up
[03:47] <akurei> r3nt4c0p: use manual
[03:48] <r3nt4c0p> scanning
[03:48] <usser> HIjustme, it might be a bug in xorg. seems like a lot of ppl have a similar issue
[03:48] <akurei> r3nt4c0p: make a 5 GB / with ext3, 1024 MB for swap with swap and the rest for /home with ext3
[03:48] <ryanprior> I'm on Intrepid Ibex and my computer won't recognize any CDs. It used to recognize them no problem. Whether it is an Ubuntu CD, a CD with software on, or a blank CD, nothing is registered and nothing shows up in /media/cdrom. What can I do?
[03:48] <akurei> leave the ntfs/hpfs partition untouched
[03:49] <usser> HIjustme, can you pastebin the results of dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video
[03:49] <usser> HIjustme, also are you sure your system is completely up to date?