[16:32] <Happy1> so how do I delete the file?
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> Happy1: open a terminal and type gksu nautilus and delete your file from there
[16:35] <Happy1> ok
[16:36] <goddard> how can i install without cd or flash drive?
[16:36] <k1l> goddard: see if you can use the pxe install method
[16:36] <goddard> can i launch that from recovery?
[16:37] <k1l> recovery?
[16:37] <SchrodingersScat> goddard: PXE? could grub2 boot an iso off the hdd.
[16:37] <goddard> yeah my system is messed up just gonna install fresh
[16:37] <kulelu88> does anybody know how to make the internal 3G work on a Lenovo T430?
[16:38] <OerHeks> goddard, why can't you boot off usb??
[16:38] <goddard> dont have any
[16:39] <kulelu88> OerHeks: Is it possible that I need an additional driver for internal 3G ?
[16:40] <OerHeks> kulelu88, not that i know of.
[16:41] <toshiba_> hi, I have a smartphone bq aquarius 4.5E but I can not synchronize with my notebook ubuntu 14:04 , what can I do ?
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> !touch | toshiba_
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> toshiba_: you can install the tools from #ubuntu-touch topic
[16:42] <toshiba_> ok
[16:54] <egypz> hi
[16:54] <egypz> hello
[16:54] <egypz> who are here
[16:55] <egypz>  hello
[16:56] <Voyage> How to restart kde
[16:56] <Voyage> alt + ctrl + backspace does not works
[16:57] <Fuchs> Alt+SysRQ+K, but that's not recommended,
[16:57] <Fuchs> CTRL+ALT+Backspace is unrelated to the desktop in use, also not recommended and got disabled by default
[16:58] <krux> sudo service lightdm restart
[16:58] <Voyage> Fuchs,  that doesnt works either
[16:58] <coffee-> hi i'd like to get 3d acceleration with my radeon r9 270 in 14.04.02
[16:59] <Fuchs> Voyage: probably SysRQ is disabled then, I recommend enabling that.  For now you can switch to a VT hopefully  (CTRL+ALT+F1) and restart the graphical interface
[16:59] <coffee-> i tried to get it working earlier but to no avail
[16:59] <daftykins> coffee-: sure, install AMD drivers then
[16:59] <daftykins> what did you try?
[16:59] <Voyage> Fuchs, CTRL+ALT+F1 willl give me terminal
[16:59] <coffee-> installing amdcccle and drivers
[16:59] <Voyage> I dont what that
[16:59] <Voyage> just restart x
[16:59] <coffee-> didn't work
[17:00]  * genii briefly considers taking "coffee" off his highlight list
[17:00] <coffee-> coffee- <--- with the dash?
[17:00] <daftykins> coffee-: how *specifically*
[17:01] <coffee-> downloaded from amd.com and installed
[17:01] <daftykins> !ati | coffee- follow the guide here
[17:01] <coffee-> i think sh install iirc
[17:01] <coffee-> ok daftykins thank you :D
[17:04] <goddard> http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html
[17:05] <daftykins> goddard: off topic :)
[17:05] <k1l> goddard: please keep this channel for technical support only.
[17:07] <baxx> symlink has no referent: "/home/vco/.config/gitbook-editor/SingletonCookie
[17:07] <baxx> in this context, what does referent mean? That the directory doesn't exist that the link is meant to live in?
[17:08] <Nickiniz> you webmasteR?
[17:08] <Nickiniz> hi
[17:08] <baxx> I'm just trying to back some stuff up... That would make sense as the location the files are being backed up to doesn't have the same absolute path, is there some copy relative version?
[17:09] <daftykins> Nickiniz: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[17:10] <Nickiniz> daftykins you webmaster?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> Nickiniz: your in an ubuntu support channel here, what are you trying to find?
[17:12] <Nickiniz> lotuspsychje
[17:13] <Nickiniz> irc Google search bot
[17:13] <daftykins> Nickiniz: you're in the wrong place.
[17:13] <Nickiniz> !Google keywords
[17:13] <Nickiniz> vs
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> Nickiniz  did you have a ubuntu support question?
[17:14] <Nickiniz> thank
[17:16] <niram> hey guys
[17:16] <niram> any idea how to see the currently confiugured nameservers in ubuntu 14.04?
[17:16] <Fuchs> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[17:16] <niram> yeah, right
[17:16] <ki7mt> baxx, use somethign along the lines of:fir i in $@ ; ln -s $(relpath $PWD $(readlink -f $i)) .. do other stuff ; done  ... that should copy relative links, but I've performed a local test fo the command
[17:16] <daftykins> Fuchs: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:16] <daftykins> ;)
[17:16] <niram> Fuchs: ubuntu desktop (should have specified) comes default with dnsmasq
[17:17] <Fuchs> bah
[17:17] <ki7mt> whoops .. for i in $@ .. .. .. ; done
[17:17] <Fuchs> well, both dig and nslookup will show which one they used
[17:17] <niram> and i don't know how to see what's configured into dnsmasq via dbus
[17:17] <daftykins> niram: do you want to see or change? because you can set them in network manager if you want to change them (on a desktop the GUI way)
[17:18] <niram> daftykins: i am using network-manager-openvpn
[17:18] <niram> and i am switching vpns a lot
[17:18] <daftykins> and?
[17:18] <niram> and i want to see the current nameservers
[17:18] <niram> see, not change
[17:18] <niram> see what i am currently using
[17:18] <Fuchs> niram: nmcli dev list    does it here
[17:18] <ki7mt> baxx, or a bit easier may be: for i in *; do [ -L $i ] && cd  .. .. ..&& ln -s ../$i $i  .. .. ..cd - ; done
[17:19] <Fuchs> but that's a 14.10
[17:19] <Eduardo> Hello. What is license I need? I want program a library which can't be closeable, but it can be modified and usable by commercial programs, but distributing the modifications of my source.
[17:20] <ki7mt> baxx, you can add the $(readlink ../$i) to identify what the link objects point too as well.
[17:20] <daftykins> Eduardo: ask in #linux - you're off topic for Ubuntu support
[17:20] <niram> Fuchs: nmcli dev list shows the wifi interface dns'es
[17:20] <niram> not the ones pushed by openvpn
[17:20] <niram> nmcli dev list doesn't see tun interfaces
[17:20] <niram> let me rephrase my question
[17:21] <niram> how do i dump dnsmasq current configuration?
[17:21] <niram> the config can be updated on the fly, via dbus
[17:21] <niram> can it also be queried?
[17:21] <niram> isn't it bothering anyone besides me that there is no way to see what nameservers you are currently using? :)
[17:23] <Fuchs> niram: as said, both dig and nslookup should be able to tell,
[17:23] <Fuchs> but I'm checking if there are more sane options
[17:23] <niram> dig and nslookup show <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:24] <niram> that's the nameserver they are using
[17:24] <Fuchs> huh
[17:24] <niram> yes
[17:24] <niram> in resolv.conf there is <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:24] <niram> which is the local dnsmasq
[17:24] <Fuchs> yes, that I do know, just can't reproduce that here, but then I am currently not using VPN
[17:24] <Fuchs> so I don't know how much that adds to your problem
[17:25] <niram> even if i weren't using vpn, there still was no way to see the current config
[17:25] <niram> for example, if i connect to the running dnsmasq via dbus and change nameservers
[17:25] <niram> networkManager would not know
[17:26] <niram> nor would nslookup or dig or anything else
[17:28] <sparr> What can cause top to show 100% user cpu usage with no processes using much cpu?  I get software caused connection abort
[17:40] <Kully3xf> any idea's where to look?
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | Kully3xf
[17:41] <Eduard_Munteanu> Kully3xf, could be a firewall issue
[17:41] <Kully3xf> nah aws - I can connect from the same machine with another user
[17:41] <albert> Россия есть?
[17:41] <pavlos> !ru | albert
[17:45] <jason_> If I run something that starts using a lot of memory (like, to the point where it might be swapping) things grind to a complete halt and I can't interrupt the program.  I think I found the problem. I don't have a swap partition.
[17:47] <daftykins> jason_: sounds about right
[17:48] <beachbuddah> I really am trying to avoid a reinstall on my main hdd partition - all my good junk is there (encrypted home folder - oops) but I am arriving at the idea that my version on the live USB could be corrupt?
[17:48] <jason_> I have no idea how that happened.
[17:48] <hetakuso> How do you change the session? Either user or default.
[17:48] <beachbuddah> ok - a bit more than 1 line but there it is - any help?
[17:48] <daftykins> hetakuso: login screen
[17:49] <hetakuso> daftykins: OOH, it's the ubuntu icon... would not have guess that
[17:49] <hetakuso> daftykins: thanks!
[17:49] <daftykins> np
[17:50] <Eightynine> Hi. I have installed Xubuntu extras, but now I have bad fonts in browser. Also I have Fluxbox and I can't find any browser in it's menu though I have Chrome and Firefox.
[17:52] <Eightynine> http://pastebin.com/y4cCqqMi is this correct?
[17:53] <OerHeks> Eightynine, IIRC you had bad font rendering before xubuntu-extra's too, is it worse now? or is this because you installed/removed so many DE's ?
[17:53] <Eightynine> They haven't change in system but they became worst in browser.
[17:54] <Eightynine> I think I need Infinality.
[17:56] <OerHeks> !rootirc | Guest63514
[17:57] <kulelu88> is there an easier/better solution to this issue of making an internal sim-card work on a Lenovo laptop: https://randomproblem.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/howto-umts-wwan-on-lenovo-thinkpad-x201-using-ubuntu-12-04/
[17:57] <kulelu88> ??
[18:01] <Eightynine> What about that pastebin link?
[18:03] <OerHeks> Eightynine, what are you trying to remove?
[18:03] <OerHeks> that part is missing
[18:04] <Eightynine> I typed sudo apt-get autoremove after removing Gnome, MATE and LXDE and got that list.
[18:05] <k1l> Eightynine: then you know why it wants to remove that.
[18:05] <OerHeks> Eightynine, that would be oke, those packages arent in use then.
[18:05] <Eightynine> Thanks, I'll try to confirm that.
[18:06] <OerHeks> maybe it breaks your system, i cannot tell, these things occur when adding and removing DE's. but in this situation, autoremove only gives unused packages.
[18:06] <ars23> hi, does anyone know why pppoeconf give the error: cannot find concentrator on eth0?
[18:07] <kulelu88> how do I check if wwan is supported on ubuntu?
[18:07] <kulelu88> a way to confirm if the hardware exists
[18:11] <OerHeks> kulelu88, in this model, you need to enable it in your bios > http://lenovoipad.blogspot.co.at/2011/02/how-to-enable-3g-sim-card-in-lenovo.html in yours too ??
[18:12] <junction4> hi all. I'm trying to understand the UsePAM option when configuring sshd so that password based logins are disabled. A lot of info on the web suggests that this should be set to "No" but is it correct that if PasswordAuthentication and  ChallengeResponseAuthentication are disabled, UsePAM is effectively not used and can stay set to Yes?
[18:12] <OerHeks> kulelu88, then from this page: rfkill list # does it show wwan ? https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/x121e-How-to-enable-WWAN-Bluetooth-on-Linux/td-p/668255
[18:13] <baxx> does anyone use rsnapshot?
[18:13] <ianorlin> junction4: If password authentiacation is set to no then you can't login over ssh with passwords
[18:13] <baxx> I'm just wondering if I'm going to run into issues editing the conf file with an editor that replaces tabs with spaces
[18:15] <kulelu88> Following your instructions OerHeks . Brb
[18:16] <junction4> ianorlin: okay, so the UsePAM option can safely be left as set to Yes as it is in the default Ubuntu sshd config?
[18:16] <stanmcm> Hello!  I have a friend asking for my help.  He has a web server that has been compromised.  It's been sending DoS attacks across the internet.  I'm wondering if making a backup of the website's source code and transferring to a new system is the best approach.
[18:17] <dsmos> Anyone think it'd be safe to tri boot Niresh and Windows along with Ubuntu?
[18:17] <stanmcm> The site is programmed heavily in python.  I'm worried that the DoS code could be hidden inside the website's source.  Any ideas?
[18:19] <Osmodivs> Hello. Wich PPA Nvidia driver do you guys recommend? I do not need a bleeding edge driver, but a stable one, there is NVIDIA Binary Driver Updates and
[18:19] <Osmodivs> X Updates
[18:19] <splitwire> stanmcm - I think you would run the real posibility that the botnet or whatever it is would be in the source code or at least the www directory someplace
[18:20] <splitwire> was there not a backup someplace else?
[18:20] <splitwire> prior to the the DoS attacks?
[18:20] <k1l> Osmodivs: if you dont need bleeding edge why not use the ubuntu one?
[18:20] <ki7mt> stanmcm, best thing to do is shut it down, and do a source code validation, then validate the sever software also.
[18:20] <stanmcm> The attacker is a previous dev who became irate.  Had root access.  Compromised the backups.
[18:21] <stanmcm> Thanks guys.  That's what I needed to know.  I think I'm in over my head trying to help my friend.  :(
[18:21] <ki7mt> stanmcm, Thats easy, disable root access, enable SSK Key access only, change the keys.
[18:22] <ki7mt> .. SSH Keys ..
[18:22] <stanmcm> ki7mt, Access is no longer the problem.  Tracking down the code is.  The owner took control with the help of their host.
[18:23] <ki7mt> stanmcm, Well, in almost all cases, unless the dude is a serious hacker, there's a trail, e.g. log in dates etc, use those dates for the compromise time reference and work backwards from there.
[18:25] <stanmcm> ki7mt, Thank you.  I'll do my best.  I think my real problem is going to be the fact that I'm not a pro programmer.  Even if I figure out which files were changed I won't know what to look for in the code.  :(  I was hoping that I wouldn't have to worry about the code.  lol
[18:26] <Eightynine> After removing those packages my system lost network connection, I can't even open my router's interface.
[18:26] <ki7mt> stanmcm, That can be an issue. If the site is mostly Python, then obviously one needs to be Python literate. Off site "secure" incremental backups would have saved you here.
[18:27] <stanmcm> ki7mt, I wish I had setup this system.  That's exactly what I would have done.  All too common of a situation.  Business man set this system up.
[18:28] <ioria> Eightynine, i think router interface is indipendent from the system
[18:28] <ki7mt> stanmcm, Yeah, it's a lesson nobody wants to learn the hard way, but all to often, that is how it goes.
[18:29] <Eightynine> Yes, it has web interface. I booted my Windows 7 in order to connect to this channel and ask how to fix that issue.
[18:30] <ioria> Eightynine, which issue ?
[18:30] <k1l> Eightynine: you installed all desktop packages. so you need to install the stuff you want now manually. like networkmanager and stuff
[18:30] <k1l> Eightynine: * you removed
[18:30] <Eightynine> I have no internet connection at all.
[18:31] <Eightynine> I had the same problem in Salix OS and somehow I launched network connection by typing command in terminal but I don't remember it. Is there any way to do the same in Ubuntu?
[18:31] <compdoc> Eightynine, have you added or removed network cards?
[18:31] <ioria> Eightynine, i suppose yours hasn't been a regular setup ...
[18:32] <comodo_dragon> im using ubuntu 15.04 beta and is awesome and fast too. good job guys
[18:32] <k1l> Eightynine: that is correct. you removed all networkmanager etc.
[18:32] <bprompt> Eightynine:    http://blog.tplus1.com/blog/2008/06/13/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-from-the-ubuntu-command-line/
[18:32] <k1l> Eightynine: so what is the issue now? you removed all desktop-pakcages that removed their preinstalled stuff like networkmanager too.
[18:33] <Eightynine> No, I just removed all packages using apt-get autoremove copied list to pastebin and asked guys here if that was correct and they said that all is correct. I confirmed uninstallation and my system lost connection.
[18:33] <k1l> Eightynine: so you are on a very limited minimal version now and you need to choose the packages you want to install.
[18:33] <Jeeves_Moss> what is the /dev/ device that the raspberry pi camera module attach to?
[18:34] <k1l> Eightynine: no, you wanted to get rid of stuff that uninstalls other stuff that is "not needed" anymore. that is what people here confirmed.
[18:34] <bprompt> Jeeves_Moss:    you could take a quick peek at -> sudo fdisk -l  <--- see where it shows
[18:34] <Osmodivs> Hello. Wich PPA Nvidia driver do you guys recommend? I do not need a bleeding edge driver, but a stable one, there is NVIDIA Binary Driver Updates and
[18:34] <Osmodivs> X Updates
[18:34] <ars23> on a pi b+ I have problems with pppoeconf. it says cannot find concentrator on eth0. what should i do?
[18:34] <Eightynine> pppoeconf? I'll try this.
[18:35] <k1l> Eightynine: you want to do expert stuff. so do the reading and thinking. you didnt like the mainstream user stuff that doesnt require auser to do that work.
[18:35] <Eightynine> Yes, but maybe networkmanager was in that list?
[18:36] <k1l> Eightynine: did you check that list? (yes it was in that list)
[18:36] <k1l> Eightynine: you want to manually choose the configuration so do it.
[18:37] <Eightynine> And how can I fixed that? I'm on ADSL and my router is needed for PC, tablet and smartphone.
[18:37] <Eightynine> Fix that.
[18:37] <k1l> this is your router?
[18:37] <Eightynine> Yes, ADSL modem router.
[18:37] <k1l> you installed ubuntu on your router?
[18:37] <Eightynine> No, on my PC
[18:38] <k1l> so that doesnt relate do ubuntu anyhow
[18:39] <Eightynine> We understood that package manager removed networkmanager. How can I connect my system to internet to install it again?
[18:39] <k1l> Eightynine: put a lan cable in it?
[18:40] <Eightynine> Cable is connected but network doesn't work at all but I can connect to internet only using Windows on that PC or connect smartphone or tablet to that router via Wi-Fi.
[18:42] <ioria> Eightynine, if ifconfig is blank, start with  lspci, or lshw, then check lspci -k for your drivers
[18:42] <Eightynine> I checked if my network adapter is recognized. Seems like it works, so driver is installed?
[18:43] <ioria> Eightynine, also, sudo ifup eth0, etc., etc..
[18:43] <Eightynine> It doesn't work. Tried that.
[18:43] <ioria> Eightynine, so what's your ethernet card ?
[18:44] <Eightynine> Realtek GBE series.
[18:44] <Eightynine> Integrated adapter.
[18:45] <ioria> Eightynine, lspci -k | grep Ethernet ?
[18:45] <Eightynine> I'll check it now. Rebooting.
[18:46] <Guest92217> hi, i just installed monkey server on 14.02 using apt-get.  however, its not listed in /bin directory. where is it and ow do i start it?
[18:47] <yorwos> i want to edit my lightdm.conf file so i disable my automatic login , this is now http://pastebin.com/Z6uRQ22J , should i delete everything excpept the first line ? or leave timeout and session inside also ?
[18:48] <Eightynine> Realtek RTL8111
[18:49] <Eightynine> What's next?
[18:50] <ioria>  lspci -k | grep Ethernet  -A 4
[18:50] <MotherMGA1> hello, I have a laptop with a GeForce 840M and Intel Integrated graphics. I'd like to use the intel chip primarily, and have it switch to nvidia for games, it doesn't seem to work.  Do I need to install the proprietary nvidia driver as well as bumblebee, or just bumblebee? Are there any guides to configuring this to work?
[18:50] <Eightynine> r8169
[18:51] <ki7mt> Guest92217, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/monkey/filelist
[18:51] <yorwos> mother , in my old desktop each card mobo + gpu had seperate cable for the monitor
[18:51] <ioria> Eightynine, the driver in use is r8169                  ?
[18:51] <Eightynine> Yes
[18:52] <ioria> Eightynine, ifconfig ?
[18:52] <manh_> yorwos: just delete your user's name at line 2
[18:52] <Eightynine> Loopback running
[18:52] <ki7mt> Guest92217, So the binary location is not /bin rather /usr/bin/monkey should be the right location
[18:52] <yorwos> its logging in as the final line
[18:52] <Guest92217> thanks, but although it tells me its installed, its not in /usr/bin
[18:52] <ioria> Eightynine, no eth0 ?
[18:53] <yorwos> i mean its logging as ofoto
[18:53] <manh_> oh, delete one of two, and keep other null
[18:53] <MotherMGA1> yorwos: I believe this uses the nvidia-prime architecture, where the nvidia is just a 3d processor that delegates the signal processing to the intel chip
[18:53] <Eightynine> Only inet and inet6
[18:53] <manh_> http://pastebin.com/PXX0QDAN
[18:53] <manh_> just like this
[18:54] <yorwos> so i should just delete my final line ?
[18:54] <ioria> Eightynine, i think you have to configure by hand /etc/network/interface ... then when you have connectivity you can reintall NetworkManager
[18:55] <Eightynine> Thanks. How to do that?
[18:55] <manh_> yep, just keep one of theme
[18:55] <yorwos> im rebooting brb
[18:56] <ki7mt> Guest92217, The try: which monkey  or locate monkey  .. it may be in /usr/local/bin is you built it from source or something.
[18:56] <ki7mt> .. then try:
[18:56] <ioria> Eightynine, sudo nano interface ... and write your configuration - IP, Gateway, SUBmask, dns... etc.   look here :http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty_Networking#Manual_configuration_from_the_command-line
[18:57] <ioria> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty_Networking#Manual_configuration_from_the_command-line
[18:58] <Eightynine> My IP is dynamic
[18:58] <ioria> Eightynine, ^
[18:58] <ioria> dhcp then
[18:59] <Eightynine> It says not found
[18:59] <ioria> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[19:00] <ioria> Eightynine, the other link below
[19:00] <Eightynine> Command not found
[19:00] <ioria> Eightynine, what command ?
[19:00] <Eightynine> Where can I find said?
[19:00] <ioria> said ?
[19:01] <goose> !help
[19:01] <twiler> Hey guys, I need help with setting up thunderbird, so, I'm just gonna lay it out all at once: So, I downloaded a file called "thunderbird-31.6.0.tar.bz2", and I opened it with archive manager, but, then what? I don't understand linux in that there is almost never an "executable" filed, which drives me bonkers! I don't know if it installed anything, or not! Please help me!
[19:03] <splitwire> twiler - why don't you just download it through the repo or download the .deb file and install
[19:03] <Eightynine> iface command not found. Where can I find ssid?
[19:03] <compdoc> Eightynine, sounds like you removed too much. might as well reinstall
[19:04] <Eightynine> I wanted to write ssid but autocorrect wrote said
[19:04] <splitwire> twiler: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/t/thunderbird-mozilla-build/
[19:04] <ars23> @Eightynine, maybe a reinstall should help you... in future, I recommend to save the list of software that is proposed by OS for uninstalling...
[19:04] <ki7mt> twiler, Why not use the repo version of TBird, it's what I uses, seems to work well.
[19:05] <Harry> twiler: simple way to get thunderbird is through the Software Center
[19:05] <twiler> OK, thanks a lot guys!
[19:05] <Eightynine> Is there any Ubuntu builds with Fluxbox?
[19:05] <ki7mt> twiler, And secondly, that is a source tarball, you need to compile it for use, which may not be straight forward.
[19:06] <ars23> twiller from software center is the easy way. if you download the sources from internet you have to compile them... (./configure && make && make install)
[19:06] <twiler> Ohh so, that's why there isn't "a file" that can be clicked?
[19:07] <ki7mt> +1
[19:07] <Eightynine> No way to repair network on my system?
[19:07] <ars23> yes, that's why... only if you get .deb files, that are packaged software, that can be installed with a double click or dpkg -i name.deb
[19:08] <ars23> eightynine, i understand from the conversation that you uninstalled some software and maybe between that software was network manager or dhcp...
[19:08] <Eightynine> And no way to fix it?
[19:08] <Harry> twiler: but if you're a new user, I highly recommend sticking to the Software Center and repos for now
[19:09] <ars23> if you don't know what you uninstalled, the simplest way is to reinstall os...
[19:09] <ki7mt> ars23, I would not recommend dpkg as it does nto resolve dependencies, gdebi is a much better solution for .deb's or better yet, : sudo apt-get install thunderbird  ; would be best.
[19:09] <Untitled> hello
[19:09] <ars23> ki7mt i agree with you
[19:09] <Eightynine> Thanks for help. Download Xubuntu iso or what?
[19:10] <twiler> @Harry: Yes I am a new user, and I will be sticking to the main channels. I only wish I could get openbazaar running well, and I'd be good to go, lol!!
[19:10] <ioria> Eightynine, try wtfayd
[19:10] <ars23> what OS you want! ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu... the difference between them is the desktop environment
[19:11] <Eightynine> I don't like any DE.
[19:11] <ki7mt> Eightynine, short asnwer, yes yuo cna repair you Network, easily, maybe not. Re: which ISO, whatever you like, but with the main Ubuntu ISO, you can install whichever DE you prefer.
[19:11] <yorwos> it seems my system was autologing as account1 and then changed to autologin2 which can explain why my boot times were raised !
[19:11] <ki7mt> .. you can repair ..
[19:11] <yorwos> i remover both lines to work properly
[19:12] <ki7mt> Eightynine, IN the case of "no DE", install the ubuntu server then, go from there.
[19:12] <ars23> ki7mt i saw your answer, but for example if you install lubuntu on your machine, you can after that migrate to kde or xfce... right?
[19:13] <ioria> i tried gnome with   lubuntu
[19:14] <ki7mt> ars23, Yes, I believe all the DE's are availble in all the distro's, however, depending on what you use as the base ISO will determine the default DE installation ; e.g. Kubuntu ya get KDE DE, Lubuntu you get LXDE etc.
[19:14] <ioria> i think xfce4 io ok too... kde i'm not sure
[19:14] <ars23> yes, that's true...
[19:14] <ki7mt> That would be Xubuntu them
[19:14] <splitwire> I have used Ubuntu as the base and used many different DE
[19:15] <splitwire> some work better than others but I'm sure the issues I had were either hardware related or I did not properly install all the depend.
[19:15] <ars23> ioria, as I know, kde needs some resources... it's a nice DE... lightweight are xfce and lxde...
[19:15] <ioria> sure
[19:15] <k1l> splitwire: yes, that is fine if you know what you are doing. but just deleting stuff and wondering why nothing works is not going to work. like we saw.
[19:16] <ki7mt> yeah shat he said ^^ not a good idea for long term use
[19:16] <ki7mt> .. what
[19:17] <ars23> question: pppoe gives me "could not find concentrator on eth0".  did someone know something about this error? one week ago it worked perfectly but now it doesn't
[19:17] <ki7mt> This is a nice overview of the 8 primary DE's: http://www.howtogeek.com/163154/linux-users-have-a-choice-8-linux-desktop-environments/
[19:19] <Eightynine> Which Ubuntu build is most stable?
[19:19] <genii> !lts
[19:19] <k1l> Eightynine: they are all the same base. its just the preinstalled desktop with their prefered software.
[19:19] <ki7mt> Eightynine, The back end is all the same, but the primary DE's are all heavily tested for each release.
[19:19] <splitwire> k11, I did a lot of the DE stuff in a VM so I could just set it back; it was back when I distro-hopped a lot so I used VMs a lot.
[19:20] <genii> Eightynine: Trusty Tahr
[19:21] <k1l> splitwire: yes, that sounds like a good testing setup.
[19:21] <ki7mt> One world of caution, if your a python3-numpy developer, the Cinnamon DE installs python-numpy ( Py2.7 version), you'll need to be careful there.
[19:21] <ki7mt> ... word ..
[19:21] <Eightynine> LXDE is buggy, XFCE is unusable, MATE is slow on my system, Gnome is crap, KDE is huge and confusing.
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> and Eightynine doesnt like anything
[19:21] <faust> Eightynine: bash is the way
[19:22] <pavlos> Eightynine, CLI
[19:22] <Eightynine> I tired of being distro and DE hopper and system killer.
[19:22] <k1l> Eightynine: its again your rantings? please do a blog
[19:22] <ki7mt> Eightynine, I QA Test Lubuntu ISO installs, to say it's buggy is not really accurate.
[19:22] <ars23> eightynine: who needs DE? just a basic one and the holly terminal
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> Eightynine  nobody forces you to distrohop
[19:22] <Eightynine> I don't blame you.
[19:22] <k1l> Eightynine: if you have specific issues come here and people will help fix them. but you just keep on ranting and blindly deleteing stuff that makes everything worse
[19:22] <splitwire> the more I use linux the more I like being in the CLI
[19:23] <ars23> me to splitwire...
[19:23] <ki7mt> CLI rules !! :-)
[19:23] <Eightynine> Yes, I agree with you. Some tools are either slow or buggy or something else.
[19:23] <k1l> Eightynine: last time now: stop it!
[19:23] <splitwire> plus it's just cool to throw open a terminal and do your work
[19:24] <dust> Eightynine, whats buggy at lxde?
[19:24] <ars23> or why gnome is a crap?
[19:24] <ki7mt> Eightynine, You have more than ample chose for a Linux distros, if your unhappy with one, there's Hundreds to choose from.
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> dust  he doesnt want to be helped, just want to rant
[19:24] <k1l> he doesnt know. he deletese stuff and wonders that nothing works anymore. so please lets stick to actual ubuntu support issues in here
[19:25] <dust> well i agree that gnome is crap as u cant even position the taskbar as u want
[19:25] <ki7mt> You can, to a degree
[19:26] <Eightynine> First time I used Lubuntu I didn't like it's look and feel. LXDE has a bug in it's panel which causes artefacts or wallpaper disappears from desktop and installs like a background in panel. LXDE works worst in Fedora but speaking about LXDE in Ubuntu, maybe that's because of conflicts in DE.
[19:26] <hit> Hello, I've buy a ssd hard drive to install on an old laptop model Packard bell MZ35. However I cannot install lubuntu on it, it stucks and keep repeiting the same messages: http://pastebin.com/J71UhuBi   I've test the hard drive on my desktop and works perfect but I cant make it on the laptop. How can I fix it?
[19:26] <ioria> long live  Torvalds
[19:27] <ki7mt> Without all the variants, Linux would be just another version of Windows OS, that's one of the many things that make Linux such a great OS, the diversity.
[19:28] <Jordan_U> hit: It may be a problem with your SATA cables / controller in the laptop. Does another drive work in the same slot in that laptop?
[19:28] <dust> Eightynine, try lubuntu... lxde works fine there without the problems u mentioned
[19:28] <hit> Jordan_U: yes, the old drive works fine but is not ssd
[19:28] <ki7mt> For the purist, Linux is just the Kernel, the rest is GNU/Linux ;-)
[19:28] <Eightynine> What I like about LXDE is that it's compact and has pretty good programms. XFCE has totally unusable file manager and a bit bloated.
[19:29] <Eightynine> dust
[19:29] <Eightynine> dust is it looks modern?
[19:29] <ki7mt> Eightynine, Then install Lubuntu if that is what you like.
[19:29] <dust> use xfe or spacefm as filemanager... both are double pane style... so for poweruser.... if u prefer terminal use mc
[19:30] <Eightynine> I like SpaceFM.
[19:30] <dust> form follows function... the look is how u make it look
[19:31] <ki7mt> Eightynine, here ya go, it's bit dates, but if you wnat to change the FM, a few more options: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/daily-5-5-alternative-file-managers
[19:31] <ki7mt> .. it's a bit dated ..
[19:31] <dust> and a piece of shit in the best looking environment is still a piece of shit...
[19:32] <Eightynine> I'm watching Lubuntu review maybe I'll like it this time.
[19:32] <dust> it depends what u want
[19:32] <Eightynine> Seems like it changed since I used it first time.
[19:33] <ki7mt> Eightynine, Lubuntu is about to become LXQT .. a QT DE, based on RazorQT .. it's going to be nice.
[19:33] <dust> when did u use it?
[19:33] <Eightynine> I think it was 10.10 or 12.04
[19:34] <ars23> in 10.10 i loved mate... i think that was the DE...
[19:34] <dust> well that worked good as i used that in past too... but have a look at an actual lubuntu if u like a lightweight ubuntu
[19:35] <ki7mt> Mate is nice, if you like the Gnome2 style DE .. I just don't care for Green :-)
[19:35] <genii> Learn the command line and then it doesn't matter what DE you use
[19:36] <dust> if u like lxqt u can also try siduction... debian sid as rolling distro
[19:36] <ars23> yes, gnome2 i think is quite ok, gnome3... not on my taste...
[19:37] <dust> genii, command line and de cant be compared... its for totally different things and users
[19:37] <Eightynine> I don't trust to some distros. Had problems installing Crunchbang for example.
[19:38] <Eightynine> When they change LXDE to LXQT in Lubuntu?
[19:38] <ki7mt> Eightynine, DO you have a support question ? if not, should probably take this to #ubuntu-offtopic .. not being rude, just say'en
[19:39] <dust> best u ask that in #lubuntu
[19:39] <ki7mt> Eightynine, Have a brows of the release notes: http://lubuntu.net/blog
[19:40] <ars23> guys, just asking! know some software to configure a dsl connection from command line? but not pppoe... it seems that it gives segfault on my machine...
[19:40] <Eightynine> My questions are what DE to choose and can I repair my system. How can I install system to make it work with BIOS and UEFI?
[19:40] <bazhang> Eightynine, we cannot choose for you
[19:40] <ki7mt> Eightynine, in particular, 15.04: Beta 1 Highlights LXQt is still in development, so Vivid Vervet is another bug fix release.
[19:41] <ioria> ffmpeg  is coming back with vivid i heard
[19:41] <bazhang> Eightynine, for an easy fix, your system is way beyond that point
[19:41] <dust> Eightynine, best u download several and try it in vbox
[19:41] <ki7mt> Eightynine, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[19:42] <k1l> Eightynine: either read and learn a lot or reduce your amount of demands
[19:42] <bazhang> !info ffmpeg vivid
[19:42] <ioria> yeah
[19:42] <bazhang> ioria, smplayer with mpv backing will do most all of that with ease as well
[19:43] <imbezol> isn't avconv the replacement?
[19:43] <bazhang> not to mention avconv
[19:43] <ioria> bazhang,  i'll try, thanx
[19:43] <bazhang> libav-tools that is
[19:43] <imbezol> a lot of how-to documentation is for ffmpeg though, not avconv
[19:43] <bazhang> yep
[19:44] <k1l> iirc they found a way to handle libav-tools and ffmpeg in debian now. so ubuntu can ship both too
[19:44] <imbezol> that said, ffmpeg is easy enough to install in any release
[19:44] <bazhang> and of course handbrake
[19:44] <k1l> libavtools works with most howtos for ffmpeg anyway
[19:44] <ki7mt> imbezol, may be relevant: https://libav.org/avconv.html
[19:44] <imbezol> the switches are quite different
[19:45] <bazhang> not too steep a curve though
[19:47] <dreamon> using ubuntu 14.10 cinnamon, how can i change background lamp intensity from notebook.? keys dont work
[19:49] <Eightynine> Why it was removed?
[19:49] <Eightynine> Seems like Lubuntu became much better. I'll try it. Is there any way to install Ubuntu on SSD and after replacing PC just connect it to new motherboard with UEFI? Will it work?
[19:50] <Jordan_U> Eightynine: UEFI changes things a little with regard to installing to removable devices. If you want a drive to be bootable on any machine you plug it into you need to run "sudo grub-install --removable". Also, if you have proprietary drivers installed they can often make moving from one machine to another problematic, but you can just remove all proprietary drivers before changing to the new machine.
[19:52] <Eightynine> Thanks.
[19:53] <pgunnars> how come i cant execute executables that are in PATH env?
[19:53] <ars23> open a terminal and type theyr name...
[19:53] <k1l> pgunnars: are the files itselv +x?
[19:53] <pgunnars> thats the cant part of the question bruv
[19:53] <k1l> did you relogin to get the path loaded?
[19:53] <pgunnars> just listed path
[19:53] <ki7mt> pgunnars, can you give us an example of what not running?
[19:54] <Eightynine> 14.04.2 is the latest version?
[19:54] <ki7mt> es
[19:54] <pgunnars> uhhhhhh, just by listing env variables, it works now, watttttttttttttt
[19:54] <ki7mt> Yes
[19:55] <pgunnars> nope, nvm, repeatedly making a typo, well played
[19:57] <Eightynine> Will Ctrl-Shift work good in Lubuntu?
[19:58] <Apachez> http://www.nasa.tv/ T minus 13min and counting.... spacex...
[19:58] <bazhang> Eightynine, to do what
[19:58] <bazhang> Apachez, wrong channel for that
[19:58] <Eightynine> To switch keyboard layout.
[19:59] <bazhang> Eightynine, what have you tried so far
[19:59] <Eightynine> I'm downloading image.
[19:59] <bazhang> Eightynine, you wish to know commands before even installing?
[20:00] <Olanzapin> Hello! I have som trubble on ubuntu 14.04. I have been messing with compiz. My problem is that i cant get the water effect to work. I have tryed the super+ctrl but nothing happens.
[20:00] <EriC^> Olanzapin: it's super + f9 or something
[20:01] <Olanzapin> does not work
[20:01] <Eightynine> Yes. I'm usually using Ctrl-Shift to change layout and I found information that only Super and Spacebar or Caps Lock works.
[20:01] <bazhang> Eightynine, please get an install first, then we can help you with any issues you may have
[20:02] <Olanzapin> HAVE INSTALLED IT
[20:02] <arcsky> what do you guys recommend ansible or puppet or chef?
[20:02] <Olanzapin> opps
[20:05] <ki7mt> arcsky, there's a couple sites that do a comparison that I found: [ http://www.infoworld.com/article/2609482/data-center/data-center-review-puppet-vs-chef-vs-ansible-vs-salt.html ] and [https://devopsu.com/books/taste-test-puppet-chef-salt-stack-ansible.html] I don't have direct exposure to all to suggest one over another.
[20:06] <Kb52> Does anyone know of an irc channel to discuss xscreensaver?
[20:07] <rypervenche> Kb52: ##linux maybe? Depends on what the question is.
[20:09] <ki7mt> Kb52, also, maybe: #xorg and #xorg-devel  maybe even #intel-gfx if appropriate, but as rypervenche said, depends on the issue I suppose.
[20:09] <wafflej0ck> arcsky, haven't used any of them so don't have an opinion but I have used Vagrant, what's the extra benefit of those three?
[20:10] <wafflej0ck> oh sorry didn't see ki7mt response there
[20:10] <Kb52> Well then the question is simply, does anyone have a list of the screensavers that are unstable in xscreensaver? Example, if I pick PacMan it sometimes crashes, and Ubuntu wants to submit error reports. Or is it a sign I need to reload the package?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Kb52: why not just turn the screen off. Power saver...
[20:11] <Kb52> Yes I already disabled it.
[20:12] <Kb52> Its more about having to deal with 200 of them and to determine which ones are crashing and which ones are not, and just to want to remove all the ones. How do you remove individual xscreensaver modules?
[20:14] <Kb52> I am sure eventually JWZ will take them out of the distro, and/or improve the configuration program to have built in add/remove functions. But for now, its to have to manually remove the ones you dont want, and how to add in the ones you do.
[20:15] <wafflej0ck> arcsky, yeah so read through that article, seems all of these are more geared towards ongoing management of lots of servers, Vagrant is just to help setup virtual machines basically but might still be of interest I use it for setting up temporary development servers that are a close match to our real deployment environment
[20:16] <Olanzapin> Anyone got Steam to install on Ubuntu 14.04 64Bit?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Olanzapin: I'd imagine many
[20:16] <Kb52> Beyond this dumb issue it is all good, and everything else is running silky smooth. I am learning what GUI stuff is out there to make Ubuntu easier, and what to avoid to keep it running stable.
[20:16] <Olanzapin> misssing some 32 libs
[20:16] <wafflej0ck> Olanzapin, yup works fine here
[20:17] <ki7mt> Olanzapin, you need to add i386 arch's I believe.
[20:17] <Olanzapin> hmm 64bit?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Olanzapin: hmm yes Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit steam install: http://youtu.be/bRS6doHshwc
[20:17] <Kb52> I had Steam but beyond a few very old games, nothing on it was of much value to me.  For the windows games I want to play, I use VirtualBox and Windows XP. Its easier.
[20:17] <wafflej0ck> yup 64bit OS don't really recall doing anything special honestly
[20:18] <wafflej0ck> there's a good chunk of stuff on there now
[20:18] <wafflej0ck> was playing BioShock infinite last night, the finally released that port, it's good from what I can tell
[20:19] <Kb52> Yeah but you need the original software to play many things on Steam, so in the Windows world it makes sense but not much in the Linux world. The one nice game I did find for Linux I gave up on.
[20:19] <ki7mt> Olanzapin, Just found this also: http://linuxg.net/steam-for-linux-finally-made-64-bit-system-compatible/
[20:20] <joe__> hi kim
[20:20] <joe__> hi how do i turn on mf wifi
[20:20] <Kb52> Anyhow does anyone here use xscreensaver and have thoughts on it?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> joe__: what WiFi chip are you using?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Kb52: I use it but set it to none, lots easier
[20:23] <EriC^> Kb52: the login screen is ugly

[20:23] <EriC^> i dont use it though
[20:23] <Kb52> joe__ Some notebooks have a slide switch, others a FN key combination, some have special buttons that turn it on and off, with an indicator.
[20:25] <zerowaitstate> Kb52: screensavers are a relic from before monitors supported power saving. they're a waste of resources
[20:26] <genii> LED screens actually use less juice when they are lit up white than when they are black
[20:26] <zerowaitstate> yeah, and they use even less when they are not lit at all
[20:27] <Eightynine> Modern monitors use not much energy. Even IPS.
[20:28] <Kb52> no its not power management. Screensaver is just eye candy. But I want all the eye candy. Compiz is the other eye candy. xscreensaver is the best one of the 3 choices. Sorry I like eye candy.
[20:29] <Eightynine> Why not replace Compiz with Compton or Compiz developed by Canonical?
[20:29] <Kb52> xscreensaver isnt being used to turn off my monitor, although it can. But Ubuntu already has all that.
[20:29] <k1l> Eightynine: that makes no sense.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Kb52: kwin can do a lot of 3D (waste of resources) eye candy
[20:29] <EriC^> Kb52: did you change the login screen
[20:29] <Kb52> It already has Canonical
[20:30] <EriC^> that screen on fire thing put me off
[20:30] <EriC^> the pacman screensaver was pretty cool, as the analog tv thing
[20:30] <EriC^> and a couple other stuff
[20:31] <EriC^> though gnome-screensaver is really elegant and nice
[20:31] <zerowaitstate> screensavers are for when you are away from the computer. If you are away from the computer you aren't looking at it.
[20:31] <Hkerk> Remote viewing
[20:31] <Hkerk> wait nvm
[20:31] <J6Dof> I've installed Elementary OS on my macbook pro. I tried to disable the keyboard backlight by changing the value in << /sys/class/leds/smc\:\:kbd_backlight/brightness >> but the value is overwritten whenever I restart my laptop. Is there any way to work around this?
[20:31] <zerowaitstate> J6Dof: create an init script that sets it on boot
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: ElementaryOS isn't supported here
[20:32] <EriC^> J6Dof: put it in a script and ^
[20:32] <EriC^> as zerowaitstate said
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: ask in #elementaryos
[20:32] <Kb52> No I already went thru the list, to disable the ones I think were no good. But I'd like it if they put in a way to remove and install new or different ones. Just like I wish someone would develop a Plymouth Creation tool, and a GUI that actually works for Plymouth.
[20:33] <EriC^> Kb52: can you pick another login screen for when you want to put the password
[20:33] <EriC^> it looks like something from 1998 or so
[20:33] <J6Dof> I tried to write an init script too but the permissions are overwritten as well and I really don't want to casually give root permission to a script
[20:33] <k1l> !elementary | J6Dof
[20:33] <EriC^> white box with a screen that has a fire on it like a warning sign
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: your distribution isn't supported here or by the Ubuntu community.
[20:34] <J6Dof> @ActionParsnip : didn't know they have their own IRC. Will ask there thanks
[20:34] <EriC^> J6Dof: add the command in rc.local
[20:34] <Hkerk> Hello everyone! I was trying to enable hibernate on my laptop in 14.04, I used a command to check if hibernate was enabled, and now when I boot it shows a bunch of console-like stuff
[20:34] <Hkerk> Can I make this end forever without finding exactly what I did
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: what make and model laptop?
[20:34] <Hkerk> i changed a config to enable switch hibernate=no to yes
[20:35] <Hkerk> fujitsu ah530
[20:35] <Hkerk> lifebook
[20:35] <Hkerk> gfx
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: if you boot to root recovery mode, you can undo the change you made. You will need to remount the file system writable
[20:36] <Eightynine> Is there any Firefox channel?
[20:36] <Hkerk> hmm
[20:36] <bazhang> !alis | Eightynine
[20:36] <Hkerk> it's not really a problem
[20:36] <Hkerk> it just shows what its doing while booting
[20:36] <Hkerk> so i think i will stop editing stuff
[20:36] <Hkerk> and let it ride for now
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: do you get the login page as normal?
[20:37] <EriC^> Hkerk: type grep CMDLINE /etc/default/grub
[20:37] <Hkerk> yes
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: then who cares.....
[20:37] <Hkerk> eric what does that do
[20:37] <EriC^> Hkerk: or cat /proc/cmdline
[20:37] <EriC^> Hkerk: shows your boot options
[20:37] <Hkerk> i was just curious what i did to make it show text while booting
[20:37] <john_doe_jr> how do I create a user with a default password through script…basically I do not want to be prompted to create the password
[20:37] <Hkerk> hmm let me check
[20:37] <Hkerk> also i like guake
[20:37] <EriC^> it should be quiet splash
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: if you install expect, you can use that to pipe the password into a script for making users.
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: guake rocks. Should be default IMHO
[20:39] <J6Dof> @EriC^: no help with rc.local either. Before I log in backlight is off. As soon as I log into Gnome it's on again
[20:39] <Hkerk> CMDLINE: command not found
[20:39] <Hkerk> eric
[20:39] <acz32> ActionParsnip: it would be nice if guake could split, so two terminals drop down instead of one
[20:39] <EriC^> Hkerk: type cat /proc/cmdline
[20:39] <Kb52> Is there a way to remove passwords? Not that its what you should do, but it would be cool to be able to not have any passwords ever to use. It CAN be done because Knoppix can and it is based on Ubuntu.
[20:39] <Hkerk> i used the other one and it said BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.16....
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: again, your distribution is off topic here
[20:39] <Hkerk> acz it can
[20:40] <Bray9082_> Can someone help me mount a NAS premaritally on ubuntu 14.10
[20:40] <EriC^> J6Dof: put it in your startup apps or .profile
[20:40] <Hkerk> the bottom left button in guake adds a tab
[20:40] <EriC^> J6Dof: you can add that one command to the sudoers file
[20:40] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: expect is complicated
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Kb52: knoppix is based on Debian not Ubuntu
[20:41] <EriC^> Hkerk: did it say quiet splash at the end
[20:41] <EriC^> Hkerk: paste the whole thing
[20:41] <Hkerk> no
[20:41] <J6Dof> @ActionParsnip: Yes got that. What if someone is willing to help here? I posted the question on #elementaryos but haven't received any reply
[20:41] <Hkerk> im on two comps lol
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> acz32: guake can have tabs
[20:41] <EriC^> Hkerk: ok, type grep CMDLINE /etc/default/grub
[20:41] <Hkerk> generic root
[20:41] <imbezol> john_doe_jr: man chpasswd
[20:41] <Kb52> Oh well. Its ok cause I made mine a simple password in the install but if I ever want to change it it will force me to a complex one.
[20:42] <Hkerk> eric how do i respond to you
[20:42] <acz32> ActionParsnip: i know, but splitting would be a nice feature
[20:42] <EriC^> Hkerk: what do you mean?
[20:42] <imbezol> john_doe_jr: example -- echo johndoe:hisnewpass | chpasswd
[20:43] <EriC^> Hkerk: just type it out here
[20:43] <Hkerk> EriC^ lol
[20:43] <Hkerk> i want to make text green for you
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: doesn't mean you are supported here.
[20:43] <john_doe_jr> imbezol: I'm being prompted after enter in the adduser command
[20:43] <Hkerk> it said : GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
[20:43] <Hkerk> and
[20:44] <Hkerk> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[20:44] <Hkerk> the cmdline part was red
[20:44] <EriC^> nothing after the = ?
[20:44] <Hkerk> nope
[20:44] <EriC^> ok, type sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[20:44] <imbezol> john_doe_jr: use useradd
[20:44] <Hkerk> are you breaking my computer?
[20:44] <Kb52> I tried every old school method for automounting shares, but just went back to using gigolo and it works and you can put into Startup easily, and it well just works, and dont run it in the system tray option, hide it and your all set.
[20:44] <EriC^> and type quiet splash after GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[20:45] <J6Dof> @EriC^: hmm. That's a good idea.  Does that mean I'm banned from talking to people here?
[20:46] <Hkerk> at the top it sayds file: etc/default/grub
[20:46] <Hkerk> and gnu nano 2.2.6 at the top left
[20:46] <EriC^> Hkerk: add a / before etc
[20:46] <k1l> J6Dof: if you want support in here use ubuntu. dont come here because the other OS doesnt have support. thats it. thanks
[20:46] <pavlos> john_doe_jr, after creating a user with useradd, type passwd -d $username and it will blank out the pass for the user. ... man passwd
[20:46] <EriC^> hit ctrl+x to exit
[20:46] <Hkerk> derp
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: you can talk,  just not request support for ElementaryOS
[20:47] <Hkerk> haha
[20:47] <Hkerk> one step ahead of me
[20:48] <J6Dof> @k1l: I asked a question. I didn't "request" any support and if it from someone who is using ubuntu to someone who is another distro I can't see why it is not allowed. Aren't we here to help each other?
[20:49] <Hkerk> does cntrl s save it?
[20:49] <Hkerk> it says to update grub after
[20:49] <EriC^> yeah type ctrl+o to save
[20:49] <k1l> *sigh*
[20:49] <EriC^> then exit and type sudo update-grub
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> J6Dof: this is Ubuntu support only. We are maintaining channel policy
[20:50] <Hkerk> says file name to write when i control o
[20:50] <EriC^> hit enter
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !derivatives | J6Dof
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> Funny how it has crunchbang which is dead
[20:51] <Hkerk> thanks eric im going to reboot and see what I may have fixed or broke
[20:51] <EriC^> Hkerk: ok
[20:53] <Hkerk> contemplating putting ubuntu on my desktop and windows 10 on my laptop
[20:53] <imbezol> bad idea
[20:54] <Hkerk> why?
[20:54] <imbezol> put ubuntu on both
[20:54] <Hkerk> lol
[20:54] <Hkerk> meh
[20:54] <Hkerk> I just need more hdds
[20:54] <Hkerk> or ssds
[20:54] <Hkerk> i have two windows licenses and id like the option to use them
[20:55] <k1l> Hkerk: you could use dualboot, too. which means installing both on one system and choose in grub which to start
[20:55] <bianeve> ciao
[20:55] <Hkerk> Tried that
[20:55] <bianeve> !list
[20:55] <Hkerk> never again
[20:55] <imbezol> or install windows in vmware / kvm / xen
[20:56] <Hkerk> Can I run virtual machines in linux independent of hardware?
[20:56] <Hkerk> are there any requirements?
[20:56] <imbezol> they'll run better with virt support
[20:56] <imbezol> but yes
[20:56] <Hkerk> does my 3570k have that
[20:56] <Hkerk> z77 mobo
[20:56] <imbezol> most likely. if you're in linux you can cat /proc/cpuinfo to see the flags it supports
[20:57] <imbezol> then do a little searching on what flags are suggested based on what virtualization software you want to use
[20:57] <Hkerk> whoa
[20:57] <Hkerk> ninjaboot eric!
[20:58] <Hkerk> it was like blerp blerp desktop
[20:59] <imbezol> vms are addictive tho. next thing you know you'll be updating packages in netbsd and wondering where the day went
[20:59] <Hkerk> That's why i like rooting and romming phones
[21:00] <Hkerk> it's an easier version
[21:00] <EriC^> then you turn into this guy https://xkcd.com/350/
[21:00] <imbezol> it's good for making the transition to linux though if you're new to it
[21:00] <imbezol> you can still use some of your windows software until you figure out how to live without it
[21:01] <Hkerk> hahaha
[21:01] <EriC^> haha
[21:01] <Eightynine> Which browser consumes less resources? Chrome or Firefox?
[21:01] <Hkerk> I think i want to try mintbuntu
[21:01] <EriC^> Eightynine: firefox i think but it's not that big of a difference
[21:01] <k1l> Eightynine: both are very heavy.
[21:01] <Hkerk> unity's rigid dock is myaking me cry a little
[21:02] <EriC^> mintbuntu?
[21:02] <Hkerk> ubuntu with mint de
[21:03] <Eightynine> Tab with Gmail consumes 250 MB RAM and Chrome lags. Something is wrong with it.
[21:03] <Hkerk> i just said that haha
[21:03] <Hkerk> shoot i mean mate
[21:03] <Hkerk> sorry
[21:03] <EriC^> oh ok
[21:03] <k1l> there is no mint de. if you mean mate you can have a version of ubuntu preinstalled
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: if you use Xubuntu you will be supported here. Ubuntu Mate is what I think you mean
[21:03] <Hkerk> yes
[21:03] <Hkerk> the marijuans my bad
[21:03] <OerHeks> Eightynine, how much ram do you have, 512 mb?
[21:03] <Hkerk> ^*gasp
[21:04] <Eightynine> 4 GB. I never had that problem with Gmail before.
[21:05] <Hkerk> hahaha https://xkcd.com/178/
[21:06] <la> hola
[21:06] <EriC^> lol
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: try renaming the configuration folder for the browser and rerunning it. Also clear the cache of the browser.
[21:07] <Eightynine> I wanted to create the best Ubuntu flavor called LightBuntu. Fluxbox, SpaceFM, Chrome, DeadBeef, SMPlayer, Gnumeric, AbiWord.
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: that's my system :-)
[21:07] <Eightynine> If someone can make ISOs, please, make this.
[21:07] <OerHeks> Chrome just had an update, maybe that is why ..
[21:08] <nalum> hello all, I'm having a bit of trouble with runit. Using a chef cookbook I'm setting up a uwsgi app, the cookbook is using runit to create the service. The chef run fails with the error: timeout: run: /etc/service/uwsgi-api: (pid 3479) 8s, got TERM
[21:09] <Eightynine> I forgot to tell I'm using Windows 7 and Chromium it was late when I learned about Chrome 42. I think I'll install Lubuntu(I'm currently downloading it) and install Chrome 42.
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: if you remaster the minimal ISO you can make the OS you want. Smplayer is Qt based so will haul in a tonne of kde deps
[21:09] <YvesLevier> backbox: How can we help you?
[21:09] <limpc> hey. im trying to install Apache2. but whenever i use apt-get install apache2, i get a fatal error that mpm_event was not found.  I'm NOT selecting apache2-mpm-event.  Here's the log: http://pastie.org/10092674
[21:09] <nalum> looking at the logs the service appears to be running so I'm not sure what is causing the error
[21:10] <Hkerk> What DEs do you guys like/use?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> limpc: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:10] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip
[21:10] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip
[21:10] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip can you please post your screenshot?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: none. Just Fluxbox here
[21:10] <Eightynine> Sorry, I can't use KiwiIRC
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: sure gimme a sec
[21:10] <k1l> Eightynine: install a minimal install and install the packages you want. if you cant handle that then run a regular ubuntu flavour and be fine with it
[21:11] <Hkerk> what in tarnation ActionParsnip?
[21:11] <limpc> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10823952/
[21:11] <Eightynine> I'm too lazy to customize WMs or DEs.
[21:11] <Hkerk> I tried i3 and thought i broke everything
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: works well
[21:12] <k1l> Eightynine: ok, then please stop this in here then. this is not going anywhere.
[21:12] <OerHeks> So Eightynine  ... you are trolling about chrome and gmail. goodluck with your issue...
[21:12] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip can I send you message using PM?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: used to look like this but now there is no dock   https://www.dropbox.com/s/cwrmbudrnej3w1t/raring.png?dl=0
[21:13] <Eightynine> I'm not trolling. Before this I had the same problem with VK(on Linux, don't remember distro) and now I have this problem with Gmail.
[21:14] <OerHeks> Eightynine, Not on ubuntu, so this channel is not suitable for you to complain.
[21:14] <monojin> Hkerk: I'm on MATE
[21:14] <limpc> ActionParsnip, did you catch my link?
[21:15] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip you rock. It looks pretty good.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> limpc: yeah. Are there any bugs reported?
[21:15] <limpc> not that i could find
[21:15] <Hkerk> monojin: can i install on normal ubuntu?
[21:15] <Hkerk> or its separate distro
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Eightynine: just clean and easy. When the system boots it's just the wallpaper and the pointer
[21:16] <Eightynine> I want to have something like this but with panel and keyboard layout indicator.
[21:16] <monojin> Hkerk: you can install it in regular ubuntu; if I have it right, MATE is in the official repositories from 15.04 onwards but you'll need PPAs for anything earlier
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> !mate
[21:17] <monojin> Hkerk: but I recommend the Ubuntu MATE distro since it's what I'm using
[21:17] <monojin> ActionParsnip: not official yet ;-)
[21:17] <Hkerk> is there anyway to changeto ubuntu mate without erasing data
[21:17] <Hkerk> or i have to xfer game of thrones off somehow?
[21:18] <Mneuro> Hkerk you can install ubuntu mate desktop and just start using it
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> monojin: Ubuntu MATE Is Now An Official Ubuntu Flavor
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/ubuntu-mate-is-now-an-official-ubuntu-flavor
[21:18] <Eightynine> If you're using 14.04 you can add repos and install ubuntu-mate-core
[21:18] <monojin> ActionParsnip: only once 15.04 is released :P
[21:19] <bazhang> !info mate-desktop | Hkerk monojin
[21:19] <OerHeks> monojin, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/ it is already on our servers.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> !info Mate-desktop trusty
[21:20] <Eightynine> ActionParsnip you have a good taste.
[21:20] <Hkerk> so sudo apt-get install mate-desktop?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> monojin: it's in the official report for Trusty
[21:20] <cool_boy> if ssh-keygen generates different public key when it is run next time?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Hkerk: exactly
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: it generates a different keypair each time
[21:21] <OerHeks> cool_boy, if not, file a bugreport.
[21:22] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: so is there any possibility two computers in world generate same public key?
[21:22] <OerHeks> cool_boy, do it 3 times, there is murphy's law.
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> monojin: where did you read that it's not official?
[21:22] <cool_boy> OerHeks: yeah I got it different
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: incredibly slim
[21:22] <Eightynine> I should install Lubuntu, change wallpaper to that one which I like, install Chrome and update my system using Software Updater and nothing will break?
[21:23] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: but there is a
[21:23] <monojin> ActionParsnip: they were very adamant about it not being official until 15.04 the first time I came on this channel (last week)
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> cool_boy  0.000...1%
[21:23] <bazhang> Eightynine, theres no guarantee of that
[21:23] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: sorry, my cat jumped, message sent without completion
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> monojin: well  it's there in the repositories
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> cool_boy  like the chance that a chimp type the complete works of shakespeare, that's alos not zero
[21:23] <cool_boy> MonkeyDust: thanks, I got it :)
[21:23] <bazhang> Eightynine, install, then we can help with whatever issues arise
[21:24] <Eightynine> I wonder why my system broke when I removed DEs that I don't need. Maybe I should do that in tty?
[21:24] <bazhang> Eightynine, nothing to do with it at all
[21:25] <Eightynine> I understood that I couldn't fix it but why it broke?
[21:26] <Eightynine> How much time approximately it takes to install Lubuntu?
[21:26] <k1l> Eightynine: you removed all desktop packages. so the system thought you dont need all that installed.
[21:26] <bazhang> Eightynine, that is entirely dependent on your individual hardware
[21:27] <k1l> Eightynine: you should have reinstalled the packages you wanted again. but that topic seems to advanced for you now. so i suggest you better stay with preinstalled setups
[21:27] <ubuntu042> hey guys
[21:28] <ubuntu042> can anyone help me with a user/bash related problem
[21:28] <Hkerk> I installed mate-desktop but it doesnt show up as an option when i log out
[21:29] <cool_boy> does private key always includes public key?
[21:29] <Eightynine> I'm writing ISO. Hope all will work good.
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> Hkerk  i have that too, i guess it's just a meta-package
[21:30] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Include is a bit misleading, it's a key "pair" so when you generate the secure key there is a public key associated with it.
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> Hkerk  is that ubuntu 14.04?
[21:31] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, what's the best way to make a shell submit text straight to a website by POST?
[21:31] <cluelessperson> like  cat file.php | pastebinit   ?
[21:32] <ki7mt> cluelessperson, depends on the web-site ans it's means in which to accept contest. SSH, SCP would be good choices for basic uploads.
[21:32] <Hkerk> yeah
[21:32] <ki7mt> .. accept content .. .
[21:32] <Bl4ckD34Th> hey ubuntu
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> Hkerk  then you need a ppa for mate, i guess
[21:32] <monojin> I've had a lot of trouble with ubuntu 14.04 and HDMI to a TV today. Hard to be specific since it was so inconsistent. For most of the time, I had to crank the resolution down to the lowest possible setting to get anything displayed at all but by the end of the day it was working perfectly at native res for no apparant reason. Also, there were intermittent bouts of serious graphical glitches on the TV
[21:32] <Bl4ckD34Th> please make truecrypt as default encryption app in ubuntu
[21:32] <k1l> cluelessperson: pastebinit can read files, no need to cat and pipe then
[21:33] <Bl4ckD34Th> after truecrypt audition result was: Truecrrypt it is safe
[21:33] <acz32> Bl4ckD34Th: it's also abandoned, so no
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: it's in the repositories. No need for a PPA
[21:33] <Hkerk> ppa is an acronym
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> Hkerk  but if you're happy with non-LTS's, you can simply wait for 15.04, it has it in the installer
[21:33] <cluelessperson> ki7mt,  literally all the website needs is a POST containing the data.   description, content, lifetime in int hours
[21:33] <Hkerk> ythats all ive got
[21:33] <k1l> Bl4ckD34Th: file a bug if there isnt one already for that
[21:33] <cluelessperson> ki7mt, it REQUIRES just content
[21:34] <monojin> is HDMI known to be spotty with TVs these days?
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  i guess that's a meta-package
[21:34] <cool_boy> ki7mt: just want to understand "When you log in to a computer, the SSH server uses the public key to "lock" messages in a way that can only be "unlocked" by your private key" , I mean how does ssh server know which private key can unlock the message if it has no info regarding private key?
[21:34] <ki7mt> cluelessperson, wel, personally, I would use a perl script rather than a bash ot sh script.
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  i tried it too, installed it, but it doesnt appear as DE in the list
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> cluelessperson: if you connect a phone to your system you can setup an SMS gateway service
[21:34] <cluelessperson> ki7mt, I prefer something I can easily toss up into an apt-get repository
[21:35] <ki7mt> cool_boy, while similar, that's a different activity, that's file encryption rather than access.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: can it be added manually?
[21:36] <cool_boy> ki7mt: yeah, article says that message can be decrypted only by receivers private key (valid) but how does ssh server know which private key is valid?
[21:36] <ki7mt> cool_boy, for example to enctypt test.txt, I would do something like: tar cfJ - test.txt | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -e > test.txt.tar.xz
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  that would be in /usr/share/xsessions/ but it's almost midnight here, so not now
[21:36] <ki7mt> cool_boy, then to decrypt it, I'd need the private Key.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: the public key knows the system you are coming from and it is in your user's name.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: indeed
[21:37] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: so can we say like public key contains some info of private key or only system login?
[21:38] <ki7mt> cool_boy, then to decrypt, I would use something like:  openssl enc -in test.txt.tar.xz -aes-256-cbc -d | tar -xJvf -
[21:38] <jpapad> hello is anyone here that speak the greek language?
[21:38] <smmc> hi guys
[21:38] <cool_boy> ki7mt: sorry, I couldn't understand your examples of encryption, decryption :(
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> !greek
[21:39] <bbrox> exit
[21:39] <jpapad> !greek
[21:39] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Ok. I'll find a how-too link, but just know, that SSH Key log-in / access is different that encryption.
[21:40] <cool_boy> ki7mt: that point is clear to me
[21:40] <cool_boy> thanks
[21:40] <monojin> Greek Christs?!
[21:40] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Here's almost the exact example I used, with an explanation: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/12/12/simple-file-encryption-with-openssl/
[21:41] <Hkerk> HRestos vscreci
[21:41] <ki7mt> cool_boy, And here's a how-to for SSH Access: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[21:42] <cool_boy> ki7mt: thanks I am going through article
[21:42] <smmc> hi guys, could you direct me to right place , Im new with linux and I have problem with disconnecting wifi
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> smmc: what WiFi chip are you using?
[21:43] <rektide> when i ssh into this box, i don't have a DBUS session
[21:43] <rektide> this is a recent vivid daily
[21:43] <rektide> how do i fix this? this is horrible. ssh users need envs!!!
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> Smmc: also what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> rektide: #ubuntu+1 for Vivid support
[21:44] <smmc> its realtek 8188
[21:44] <rektide> ActionParsnip: ty. was going to cry tears over lack of ubuntu having nice things like #debian-systemd
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> rektide: you are using a prerelease which is known to have bugs and issues.
[21:44] <monojin> debian-systemd? is that a real channel?
[21:45] <monojin> I'm sure it's civil
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> smmc: can you please pastebin to the output of: sudo lshw -C network ; lsb_release -a; sudo iwlist scan
[21:46] <jpapad> hello guys
[21:46] <jpapad> i have a question
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> smmc: use http://pastie.org to host the text
[21:46] <YvesLevier> jpapad: listening
[21:46] <jpapad> how can i export acpi tables ?
[21:46] <smmc> thanks let me try
[21:47] <YvesLevier> Plz som1 help jpapad.  Having no idea about his topic.
[21:50] <cool_boy> which default algorithm is used when I do "ssh-keygen" on ubuntu?
[21:50] <cool_boy> to generate key pair **
[21:51] <ki7mt> jpapad, Not sure about exporting all of them at once, but hey are exported to folders / files in:  /sys/devices/*
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> smmc: post the link of the pastebin in the channel
[21:51] <YvesLevier> ki7mt: thx :)
[21:51] <jpapad> thanks ki7mt !! I'll try it
[21:54] <ki7mt> jpapad, This may help: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/acpitool.1.html
[21:55] <Eightynine> I have just installed Lubuntu and I like it now. It's much better than stock LXDE and Lubuntu which I tried a few years ago. Thanks for advices and good work guys. Good luck.
[21:55] <jpapad> thanks aagain ki7mt
[21:55] <ki7mt> welcome
[21:57] <ki7mt> Eightynine, Stay tunned to the Lubuntu channel, there is allot of good work going on there with the DE. Glad you like LUB.
[21:57] <Eightynine> And again I have tearing in Firefox. Will you help me to configure Firefox tomorrow to get rid of tearing and "Firefox sends data. Chose what you share"?
[22:07] <Phobos> testing
[22:08] <pancake> which is the chan for ubuntuphone?
[22:08] <k1l> pancake: #ubuntu-touch
[22:09] <pancake> thx
[22:09] <cool_boy> how would I be able to connect to server if I disable password authentication and loose key of my laptop accidentally ?
[22:09] <k1l> cool_boy: try the recovery system, if your hoster provides it
[22:10] <ki7mt> cool_boy, save you key pair in a safe location .. always have a backup. I use that encryption I told you earlier to encrypt my pairs on a USB thumb drive and save them in several locations.
[22:11] <Guest37121> How I can enter to chat in spanish language ? I can write a little bit of english ...
[22:11] <ki7mt> cool_boy, So the sequence is, generate the pairs, test them throughly, make backups, encrypt them, save in safe locations, then disable root log-in with PW's
[22:12] <cool_boy> ki7mt: and in case of accidental loose I just copy that  key pair to same or another system, it should work, right?
[22:12] <kostkon> !es
[22:12] <ki7mt> .. thoroughly .. hehee, gotta love spell check ..
[22:12] <Guest37121> Muchas gracias @ubottu
[22:13] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Your key will be on the server still, all you do is re-add it to the box you lost it on, reinstalled OS or whatever.
[22:14] <ki7mt> cool_boy, So the recover would be, on the system that lost the keys, decrypt the keys, then add them back to the system, then log back into your server.
[22:14] <cool_boy> ki7mt: fine but if I encrypt key files and keep them in safe location. if someone gets access to them, he is able to decrypt them, right?
[22:16] <cool_boy> ki7mt: what if I copy key pair on another system (in case I loose system) , will another system having key pair (of old system) copied on it be able to make login ?
[22:16] <ki7mt> cool_boy, No very easily, use a strong passphrase (letters+numbers Upper and Lower case, maybe some punctuation).. it would take the average hacker years to bust it, if they had the horse power and know how.
[22:17] <Hkerk>  apparently only password length matters according to intel
[22:17] <Hkerk> http://imgur.com/gallery/zFyBtyA
[22:18] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Re: second system, yes,you can export the keys. I often use the same set for a particular purpose on several boxes. But it is safer to have (1) set per box.
[22:19] <cool_boy> ki7mt: what if someone gets files compressed like "openssl aes-256-cbc -a -salt -in secrets.txt -out secrets.txt.enc" , what he would need to decrypt the file?
[22:20] <cool_boy> on my system it is decrypted simply like "openssl aes-256-cbc -d -a -in secrets.txt.enc -out secrets.txt.new"
[22:21] <Hkerk> what are some goods way to make kde not look like its from 2002
[22:22] <ki7mt> cool_boy, the only way to decrypt the file is with your strong encryption pass-phrase.
[22:23] <cool_boy> ki7mt: If I do not supply a passphrase, it would be decrypted simply by that command, right?
[22:23] <limpc> hey. im trying to install Apache2. but whenever i use apt-get install apache2, i get a fatal error that mpm_event was not found.  I'm NOT selecting apache2-mpm-event.  Here's the log: http://pastie.org/10092674
[22:23] <bekks> cool_boy: If that secrets.txt supllies the pass phrase, yes. I suggest NOT storing the password in a file.
[22:24] <bekks> cool_boy: But it depends on the use case, though.
[22:24] <limpc> zip used to do that.  so easy to crack
[22:24] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Exercise: try it and see the results (both ways, with and without). It's rather pointless to encrypt something without a pass-phrase.
[22:24] <bekks> cool_boy: I am doing the same, with a 32bit passphrase, just for making it a bit harder to get some specific files.
[22:24] <cool_boy> ki7mt: thanks gonna try it
[22:24] <cool_boy> bekks: thanks :)
[22:28] <hiexpo> hola
[22:33] <ki7mt> Hkerk, "apparently only password length matters according to intel" .. indeed, for enc phrases, that may very well be the case. I'm just in the habit of including them as a standard practice.
[22:37] <rocoloco> Hello guys
[22:38] <rocoloco> You know if elementary os has a channel on this irc?
[22:39] <hiexpo> rocoloco, start here http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=elementary
[22:39] <petersaints> hi guys. I have an HP printer. Should I choose the Gutenprint+CUPS driver or the hpcups one? From my understanding the Gutenprint+CUPS version is the open-source unsupported (by HP) version and the hpcups comes from HPLIP, which is the official HP linux drivers project. Which one gives you better results?
[22:39] <kostkon> !elementary
[22:40] <hiexpo> thanks kostkon
[22:41] <cool_boy> ki7mt: got it now, encryption also takes passphrase
[22:41] <cool_boy> so big companies have always more than one person who knows their passphrase? ( offcourse they have many passphrase to remember)
[22:42] <cool_boy> passphrases*
[22:44] <Hell_Howl> buenas noches
[22:45] <Hell_Howl> tengo una duda
[22:45] <Hell_Howl> ¿ alguien puedo ayudarme ?
[22:45] <kostkon> !es
[22:45] <Hell_Howl> join #ubuntu-es
[22:46] <BBLLCC> how do I get an invite to the wine room?
[22:46] <kostkon> BBLLCC, what's the message you are getting
[22:46] <BBLLCC> or maybe you can help, how do I "insert" an iso copy of a cd?, so I can use it from wine?
[22:46] <BBLLCC>  You have been kicked from #wine by ChanServ (Invite only channel)
[22:47] <Jordan_U> BBLLCC: The channel is #winehq.
[22:47] <BBLLCC> a, thnks Jordan_U
[22:48] <macibookg3> I have a lintel 2.4GHz MacBook Pro 8,2 Late 2011 13" Running Ubuntu 14.04 on it.  I would like to know how to install Mac OS 10.10 on to a bootable USB hard Drive
[22:48] <kostkon> BBLLCC, run the wine configuration utility, click on Drives, add a new drive/disc and point it to the iso file
[22:48] <Jordan_U> BBLLCC: You're welcome.
[22:48] <kostkon> BBLLCC, you need to mount or otherwise extract that iso file first
[22:49] <locsmif> I have a problem where I select keyboard layout US intl with dead keys, but every say ~10 minutes, dead keys stop working properly. Is this a known issue?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> macibookg3: This channel can't help you with installing Mac OS, we only support Ubuntu.
[22:50] <Jordan_U> macibookg3: ##mac might be able to help you though.
[22:50] <cool_boy> ki7mt: even  after encription I am able to edit the file :(
[22:51] <BBLLCC> sudo mount hooray.iso <?
[22:52] <kostkon> BBLLCC, i think you can just right click on it and select mount
[22:52] <balleyne> how can I find out which Xorg driver is currently in use on my machine?
[22:53] <kostkon> BBLLCC, "open with Archive Mounter", if you've got such an option
[22:54] <Jordan_U> balleyne: Running "glxinfo" and looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log will both tell you (along with giving you a lot of other information you probably don't want).
[22:54] <cool_boy> well on checking  ~/.ssh/known_hosts  on my laptop I see many entries, what are those keys, I have never added any key in my laptop , how they come there? can I delete them from there or not?
[22:54] <balleyne> Jordan_U, thanks
[22:54] <kostkon> BBLLCC, or just extract it (i.e. into a folder)and then use that folder as the drive
[22:55] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: Every time you ssh into a new host there is a warning that the host is unknown, and then you are asked if you want to add the host to ~/.ssh/known_hosts .
[22:55] <Jordan_U> balleyne: You're welcome.
[22:56] <BBLLCC> wine config tool wont show hidden files (.wine)
[22:56] <BBLLCC> folders I mean
[22:56] <BBLLCC> directory
[22:56] <BBLLCC> *
[22:56] <cool_boy> Jordan_U: hmm, I remember so I have lots of entries now, and what that means. systems having public keys which has been registered in my known_host file can access my system?
[22:56] <kostkon> BBLLCC, you don't need to access .wine anyway
[22:57] <cool_boy> :S
[22:58] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: No, not at all. It just means that you won't get any warnings when you ssh into them again (unless their private key has changed, in which case you'll get a very loud warning that someone might be maliciously pretending to be that server).
[22:58] <cool_boy> Jordan_U: aah, I have seen that warning also :)
[22:59] <ki7mt> cool_boy, I dont know how that's happening, as once the file is encrypted, you should not be able to freely edit the file in plain text.
[23:00] <cool_boy> ki7mt: yes I can open in vim, it opens encrypted data but I am able to edit that :s
[23:01] <ki7mt> cool_boy, are you seeing the file in plain text to encrypted text? If plain, that is a problem.
[23:01] <cool_boy> it malfunctions file and passphrase doesn't work to decrypt the file
[23:01] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: That is completely normal and expected. If you try to decrypt that "modified" file, decryption will fail. What did you expect to happen?
[23:02] <cool_boy> ki7mt: I am seeing encrypted text but not editable
[23:02] <cool_boy> sorry but editable **
[23:02] <ki7mt> cool_boy, That the correct behaviour then.
[23:02] <ki7mt> That is ..
[23:03] <cool_boy> ki7mt: so if someone edits the file then I also loose that file, I won't be able to decrypt the file with the password I had supplied
[23:03] <ki7mt> cool_boy, that is the whole purpose .. if they edit it, it's toast, if they can't decrypt it, it's of no use to them.
[23:04] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: Again I ask, what did you expect to happen when you tried to edit the file?
[23:04] <cool_boy> and no use of mine as well :P
[23:05] <ki7mt> cool_boy, Please answer Jordan_U 's question
[23:05] <cool_boy> Jordan_U: I was not expecting to be able to edit file without decrypt
[23:05] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: What did you think was going to prevent editing the file?
[23:06] <cool_boy> Jordan_U: I don't know, ( may be something after encription like password protected)
[23:07] <ki7mt> cool_boy, If you want to prevent "access" to the file, that's a whole different ball of wax .. that's a permission setting.
[23:07] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: If you have only one copy of your file on a hard drive, and someone zeroes that hard drive, you have lost that file. Encrypting it won't prevent you from losing the file. At another level, if instead of zeroing the drive they melted it with thermite then you would have also lost the file. Encryption has nothing to do with preventing file loss, that's what backups (and to a certain extent, permissions) are for.
[23:08] <cool_boy> ki7mt: btw I found it safe, I can make multiple copies and store them at many locations freely. if someone edits I can get content from another
[23:08] <TheLemonKing> Hey.
[23:09] <cool_boy> Jordan_U: thanks got the point :)
[23:09] <TheLemonKing> I dont like how xChat makes me join a IRC channel.
[23:09] <danielbrazilian> hello i would like to make use of turbo boost on my core i5 4210U i am running ubuntu mate 64bit 14.04 LTS
[23:11] <danielbrazilian> please any help
[23:12] <bekks> danielbrazilian: Just enable it in the BIOS.
[23:13] <bekks> danielbrazilian: If your system feels like needing to boost, it will.
[23:13] <danielbrazilian> i think there are not many options in a notebook
[23:14] <danielbrazilian> but it says it boosts from 1.7 up to 2.7
[23:14] <bekks> So it does, if the system needs to.
[23:14] <danielbrazilian> i will check on the bios then
[23:24] <Nikesh> What's the equivalent wget to  ```curl https://url/endpoint/ -u APIKEY:X``` ?
[23:26] <Nikesh> Or rather, I am sending the above request and the server responds with an XML file, but the brackets are escaped, so instead of <ol> I see <ol>
[23:26] <limpc> hey. im trying to install Apache2. but whenever i use apt-get install apache2, i get a fatal error that mpm_event was not found.  I'm NOT selecting apache2-mpm-event.  Here's the log: http://pastie.org/10092674
[23:27] <bekks> limpc: So install the event mpm?
[23:27] <huig> hello, how come there is no sudo file in /bin?
[23:28] <compdoc> type:  which sudo
[23:28] <limpc> bekks, do you even know what that is :P
[23:28] <bekks> huig: It is in /usr/bin/sudo
[23:28] <bekks> limpc: Yes, I do.
[23:28] <bekks> limpc: Which Ubuntu release are you on, actually?
[23:28] <limpc> well im not using apache2-mpm-event im using worker
[23:28] <limpc> 14.04.2
[23:29] <huig> bekks, and why is it sudo on /usr/bin and not in /bin?
[23:29] <bekks> huig: Why not?
[23:29] <bekks> limpc: Did you run a sudo apt-get update?
[23:30] <limpc> im pretty sure i did, ill do it again anyway to be sure
[23:31] <limpc> bekks, same error after update
[23:31] <bekks> limpc: Can you pastebin the output again, please?
[23:32] <huig> bekks, just curious..why are at least most of the bash commands in /bin and sudo has to be at another dir
[23:32] <bekks> huig: Because sudo isnt a vital command to be residing on /
[23:32] <limpc> bekks, with or without apache2-mpm-worker specifically selected?
[23:32] <bekks> limpc: Without.
[23:33] <huig> bekks, it isn't a vital command?!
[23:33] <limpc> bekks, http://pastie.org/10092867
[23:33] <bekks> huig: It isnt. You can build a chroot including /bin and /sbin and you will have a basic set of commands.
[23:35] <ki7mt> The origin is from the boostrap for which the Image was built, that's why they in /bin
[23:35] <bekks> ki7mt: sudo is in /usr/bin/
[23:35] <ki7mt> That's an installed package
[23:35] <bekks> limpc: Could you please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"?
[23:35] <ki7mt> sudo isn't part of the bootstrap
[23:36] <limpc> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824457/
[23:37] <bekks> limpc: You rmirror is - weird. Try an official mirror please.
[23:37] <limpc> that is official. its a selected mirror based on speed
[23:37] <bekks> Try another mirror please.
[23:37] <limpc> ok
[23:37] <bekks> Like "archive.ubuntu.com"
[23:40] <limpc> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824470/
[23:41] <bekks> limpc: And the sudo apt-get install apache2 again please
[23:41] <limpc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824475/
[23:42] <bekks> limpc: Try: sudo apt-get install apache2-mpm-event apache2 please
[23:42] <limpc> i dont want event driven apache
[23:42] <limpc> im trying to install the worker version
[23:42] <bekks> That may apply, but the error you get should change significantly.
[23:44] <Zenger> Hey guys I have a problem my CTRL + C, CTRL + V don't work on a fresh installation, neither does CTRL + A, CTRL + ALT + T, CTRL + ALT + F1 anything at all. CTRL just acts like shift
[23:44] <limpc> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824495/
[23:46] <bekks> limpc: So try: sudo apt-get install apache2
[23:46] <limpc> ?? i did both
[23:46] <bekks> limpc: If that doesnt work, please open a bug on apache2
[23:48] <hivearts> can someone help me to install ubuntu guest on qemu-kvm ?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> hivearts: What problem are you having?
[23:51] <discus> doing windows/ubuntu dual boot.. should I create primaty or logical partition for ubuntu?
[23:52] <discus> what is the difference
[23:52] <EriC^^> discus: you can only have 4 primaries, logical partitions are used as a trick to have more partitions
[23:52] <EriC^^> it's basically the same thing
[23:53] <ahmadsoe> anyone can help me to install aufs support for ubuntu 14.04 kernel 4.0?
[23:53] <Jordan_U> discus: I would recommend simply letting Ubuntu's installer handle partitioning.
[23:54] <hivearts> can i install ubuntu server 14.04 without graphics?
[23:54] <hivearts> i am isntalling it on kvm remote host
[23:56] <discus> since I have two partitions now, and want to add two for ubuntu (swap and /), to take the remaining space, then I can just use primary partitions?
[23:56] <Jordan_U> discus: Why are you partitioning manually?
[23:57] <max100> is python pip broken in ubuntu 14.04?
[23:57] <discus> Jordan why not? Might as well learn something new
[23:57] <Bashing-om> hivearts: A server install has no GUI .
[23:58] <Jordan_U> discus: Because the installer is good at doing the right thing WRT partitioning, but wanting to learn is a great reason for wanting to do it manually :)
[23:58] <discus> one slighly annoying thing if I make partitions Logical is that they are named sda5 and sda6, not sda3 and 4
[23:58] <[n0mad]> hi all
[23:59] <Bashing-om> discus: That is correct, the 'extended' partition makes the difference .
[23:59] <discus> Jordan_U: yup :). that is the whole point of installing linux in tge first place


[00:02] <mrooney|w> gilir: so basically just upload a modified one, say "okay, this should be good to apply to the tarball!" and eventually a nice person uploads it? :)
[00:07] <gilir> mrooney|w: yes :)
[00:08] <eboyjr> o4o What can I do if a package is 4o4?
[00:09] <mrooney|w> eboyjr: what do you mean exactly? what is trying to access the package and where?
[00:10] <eboyjr> mrooney|w: I was trying to get python-webkit with Synaptic Package Manager and it said it could not find the package. So I found the .deb of the same version elsewhere.
[00:11] <mrooney|w> well you can always use packages.ubuntu.com: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=python-webkit
[00:11] <mrooney|w> but did you try apt-get, that seems better
[00:11] <mrooney|w> (also this may be more appropriate in #ubuntu-bugs, not sure)
[00:11] <joaopinto> it is more appropriate on #ubuntu, since it's a support question
[00:12] <eboyjr> Well I already solved it.
[00:12] <eboyjr> For me.
[00:13] <eboyjr> But for other people, I don't know why it would be 404 if there is a repository that is supposed to hold all packages together
[00:13] <mrooney|w> yeah, it could be a bug somewhere which is why I suggested in #ubuntu-bugs
[00:14] <eboyjr> Okay.
[00:14] <mrooney|w> joaopinto: It seems like more of a debugging thing than support to me, but either probably works
[00:14] <mrooney|w> also if you just install the deb you won't get security etc updates via a package manager, will you?
[00:15] <eboyjr> mrooney|w: I don't believe so, no.
[00:17] <joaopinto> mrooney|w, a problem analisys may not require debugging, you are assuming eboyjr has a proper understanding on what he is trying to do, I am assuming he is doing something wrong :)
[00:18] <joaopinto> if you get an http error code 404 while installing a package from a repository, then it's most likely a server-side issue, but again, that is a support related question :)
[00:18] <huats> eboyjr: which version of ubuntu are you running ?
[00:18] <huats> (regarding your python-webkit issue)
[00:19] <eboyjr> Ubuntu 9.04
[00:20] <eboyjr> W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.math.ucdavis.edu/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/pywebkitgtk/python-webkit_1.0.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb 404 Not Found
[00:20] <huats> eboyjr: the issue is that you are using sources that are not official
[00:21] <huats> remove that source from you sources.list file and it will be ok
[00:21] <huats> ...
[00:21] <mrooney|w> yeah, the mirror doesn't have that package possibly because you are out of date, and apt-get update might solve it
[00:21] <huats> eboyjr: is it an official mirror ?
[00:22] <eboyjr> huats: Yes.. it is I believe
[00:22] <eboyjr> BUGabundo on #ubuntu-bugs says it's a cache problem
[00:23] <joaopinto> mrooney|w, 1.0.2-1ubuntu1 is the current version, apt-get update will not help
[00:23] <mrooney|w> ah ok
[00:23] <joaopinto> eboyjr, again, that is not a bug, you are using a mirror which is either no official or if it is official is missing a file, or has some configuration failure
[00:23] <huats> eboyjr: ok than apt-get update
[00:23] <huats> shold fix it
[00:23] <huats> or use a different mirror...
[00:24] <eboyjr> Well I selected it from the list on Software Source using find fastest mirror
[00:25] <eboyjr> Ubuntu Software tab > Download from: > Select Best Server
[00:25] <eboyjr> This should be regarded as a bug.
[00:26] <joaopinto> eboyjr, Select Best Server does not check a mirror integrity, that is an infrastructure failure, not a software failure
[00:26] <joaopinto> to cover such a scenario, it would need to check EVERY file on the mirror, which is kind of insane
[00:26] <eboyjr> An infrastructure bug.
[00:27] <eboyjr> I will change mirrors though.
[00:27] <joaopinto> an infrastructure failure, not a bug
[00:27] <joaopinto> the software is expected to show you the 404, when the a file is missing, it is working as expected
[00:28] <eboyjr> Use a bash script to check all the files on the mirrors :) I'm kidding. Thank you everyone
[00:29] <eboyjr> Well since the file is missing, it shouldn't be included in the list I believe.
[00:33] <eboyjr> Before I leave, I'm curious: What are SRUs?
[00:33] <RainCT> eboyjr: Stable Release Updated
[00:33] <eboyjr> Okay.
[04:14] <poningru> how do I find out who submitted a package?
[04:22] <nhandler> poningru: Check the first entry in debian/changelog
[16:46] <hyperair> Zhenech: it seems there are many sponsors who take interest in geany-plugins eh..
[16:47] <hyperair> Zhenech: look at it yet? =P
[17:24] <Zhenech> hyperair, yes, it looked fine sofar, and it worked (which is most important) :)
[17:24] <hyperair> Zhenech: so how about uploading soon? =D
[17:25] <Zhenech> heh :P
[17:25] <Zhenech> lets see... sounds like a plan :)
[17:25] <hyperair> sure does. ;)
[17:26] <Zhenech> my ccowbulder should be fixed too
[17:26] <Zhenech> lets see
[17:27] <Zhenech> nah
[17:27] <Zhenech> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:27] <Zhenech>   aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6-4.7
[17:27] <Zhenech>             Depends: libept0 (>= 0.5.26+b1) but it is not going to be installed
[17:27] <directhex> sid#s broken?
[17:27] <Zhenech> sort of
[17:29] <Zhenech> hyperair, did you check copyright stuffs? :)
[17:32] <Zhenech> hyperair, good good, at some points too verbose but well, too verbose isnt bad :)
[17:35] <hyperair> Zhenech: yes i did check the copyright stuff =)
[17:35] <hyperair> Zhenech: i'm part of the upstream anyway =)
[17:37] <Zhenech> hyperair, "Description: Addons plugin for Geany" < sounds strange
[17:37] <hyperair> hmm
[17:37] <hyperair> miscellanous addons?
[17:38] <hyperair> "miscellanous addons for Geany"?
[17:38] <Zhenech> misc. plugins I'd say
[17:38] <Zhenech> but yes
[17:38] <Zhenech> Description: plugin which improves LaTeX support in Geany < does not match your "foobar plugin for Geany" schema
[17:38] <Zhenech> but hell
[17:38] <Zhenech> thats all I found :P
[17:40] <hyperair> i'll go fix those now then =)
[17:41] <Zhenech> haha
[17:41] <Zhenech> one more
[17:42] <Zhenech>  Geany is a small and lightweight integrated development environment using the
[17:42] <Zhenech>  GTK2 toolkit.
[17:42] <hyperair> oh right
[17:42] <hyperair> Gtk+
[17:42] <Zhenech>  Geany is a small and lightweight integrated development environment using the
[17:42] <Zhenech>  Gtk+ toolkit.
[17:42] <Zhenech> one is wrong :)
[17:42] <hyperair> mmhmm
[17:42] <hyperair> fixed.
[17:42] <Zhenech> kk
[17:42] <hyperair> wait..
[17:42] <hyperair> hmm
[17:43] <hyperair> about the latex plugin short description, what should it be?
[17:43] <Zhenech> improved LaTeX support plugin for Geany?
[17:44] <hyperair> hmm okay
[17:44] <hyperair> that'll work
[17:44] <Zhenech> in the end I dont care, but as you have foo plugin for Geany for all the other packages, it'd be nicer to be consistent
[17:44] <hyperair> yeah
[17:46] <hyperair> question. do you pull from git, or get the package from m.d.n?
[17:47] <Zhenech> m.d.n
[17:47] <Zhenech> but I could pull from git too
[17:48] <Zhenech> should I?
[17:49] <hyperair> it's up to you
[17:49] <hyperair> i'm uploading to both
[17:49] <Zhenech> then gimme tar.gz
[17:49] <hyperair> and i've uploaded to m.d.n already =)
[17:50] <Zhenech> so I dont have to fool around with git-bp etc
[17:50] <hyperair> tar.gz can be generated from git using pristine-tar
[17:50] <Zhenech> i know
[17:50] <Zhenech> but I *always* foget to add --git-pristine-tar etc ^^
[17:50] <hyperair> aah =p
[17:50] <hyperair> i specify it in my ~/.gbp.conf
[17:51] <Zhenech> i do this in my debiab/gbp.conf
[17:51] <hyperair> i see
[17:51] <Zhenech> makes it easier for others to play with the package
[17:51] <hyperair> hmm maybe i should do that for my packages as well
[17:51] <Zhenech> :)
[17:51] <hyperair> well it's in mentors.debian.net in any case =)
[17:51] <hyperair> i'll go put a gbp.conf into git
[17:51] <Zhenech> fine
[17:52] <Zhenech> nau fix apt in sid :)
[17:53] <hyperair> O_o
[17:53] <hyperair> apt's broken?
[17:53] <Zhenech> aptitude is uninstallable currently
[17:53] <Zhenech> so I cant update my chroot and build
[17:53] <Zhenech> but I guess it will be fixed by the autobuilders soo
[17:54] <Zhenech> so take this as your free upload :)
[17:55] <hyperair> free upload?
[17:56] <Zhenech> i'll upload as soon I can :)
[17:56] <hyperair> ah ok thanks =)
[18:19]  * hyperair grumbles about emacs not reading umlauts into a utf-8 encoded file
[18:32] <hyperair> hmm.. no, it's just the debian-control-mode that refuses to work with umlauts
[18:56] <hyperair> hmmmmmmmmm debian-el fights with debian-dev-el for control of control files encoding it seems.
[18:57] <hyperair> debian-el attempts to match all files named "control", while debian-dev-el attempts to match all files named "debian/control", and debian-el wins, so my umlauts go missing.
[20:01]  * popey hugs directhex
[20:01] <directhex> hello popey, whatcha after?
[20:02] <popey> nothing
[20:02] <popey> for some reason I have only just seen your itv post. Liked it.
[20:02] <directhex> annoyingly upstream decided to jump from 1.9.6 to a beta, so still no actual release which works ¬_¬
[20:04] <popey> still, nice to know it's "in the pipeline" as it were
[20:05] <directhex> all it took was ssh -D, and a smart developer! :p
[20:05] <directhex> i know there are workarounds, like firefox extensions, but in the end, it's nice for ubuntu users to "not notice" when a site just works
[20:12] <julien__> hi, is there any motu available to do a quick review on my package ? --> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/brackup
[20:43] <ximion> Is there anyone who can review the packages http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libqtintf4 and http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/smile ?
[22:14] <norsetto> do we have it documented anywhere the usage/policy of renaming tarballs if repacked?
[22:15] <jpds> Wasn't it to add a -repack1 to it?
[22:15] <norsetto> jpds, yes, whatever, was it announced anywhere as a policy, is it documented?
[22:16] <jpds> Can't remember.
[22:16] <sebner> huhu norsetto \o/
[22:16] <norsetto> me neither, but it annoys me when this kind of policy are unilaterally taken and not even announced
[22:18] <norsetto> hola sebner
[22:18] <sebner> norsetto: how are you doing? long time no see
[22:19] <norsetto> pretty fine thanks, and you?
[22:20] <sebner> military service over so fine ;D
[22:20] <norsetto> still alive as well, even better ;-)
[22:23] <sebner> eheheh ;P
[23:19] <mrooney> gilir: around by any chance? I'm trying to figure out how to generate a diff.gz, I'm not quite sure what steps you took
[23:24] <mrooney> any MOTU around kind enough to explain how to generate a diff.gz for the debian/ from an upstream tarball?
[23:26] <lifeless> debuild -S
[23:47] <mrooney> lifeless: but what is the workflow? do I download the tarball and extract it, throw the debian/ directory in, and run that?
[23:48] <lifeless> broadly yes. I suspect you should do one of the tutorials; there have been regular ones in the ubuntu classes, transcripts are on the wiki etc


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