[03:06] <Dimensions> Nox_ville: what do you wanna do with ur cell ... ? i can help if using it for GPRS Modem ..connection
[03:06] <thedude0> Playing: "sensation - Wanadoo Top 100 v.h. jaar 2002 - the anthem 2002" (192kbps - 44kHz - Stereo)
[03:06] <thefish> surfi_boi: now run chmod -R 750 /path
[03:06] <soundray> surfi_boi: what filesystem do you have in that partition?
[03:06] <variant> AlexC_: what are you talking about?
[03:06] <surfi_boi> ext3
[03:07] <Dimensions> guys Any one would know answer to my question abt mysql connection ?
[03:07] <Mojee> I Got a problem while trying to install ubuntu can someone pme plz
[03:07] <n_3o> I used to use gprs.. but now wifi.. only st...iillll having problems./
[03:07] <Nox_ville> Dimensions.. yes please i need it for GPRS modem....
[03:07] <soundray> surfi_boi: sorry, I'll leave you in the capable hands of thefish
[03:07] <Mojee> I Got a problem while trying to install ubuntu can someone pme plz...
[03:07] <AlexC_> variant: I have a new Intel Core 2 Duo setup with an Abit AB9 - which Ubuntu has problems with the JMicron IDE Controller.......aparantly the only workaround is the install Ubuntu via a USB stick
[03:07] <AlexC_> variant: that is assuming I have a 1GB memory stick
[03:07] <whyameye> Dimensions: you could try the apache channel. Not sure what its exact name is but it is on freenode.
[03:07] <surfi_boi> chmod -R 750 /path ran that with abridged path all done
[03:07] <Noah0504> Does anyone know why I am not able to run two instances of BitTorrent under Edgy?  I get an "address already in use" error when I try to run a second instance.
[03:08] <variant> AlexC_: yeah, i have heard abouthtat.. a fix is in the pipeline for 2.6.18 kernel apparantly
[03:08] <thefish> surfi_boi: the easy way to use chmod is with u, g or o (short for user, group, other) and then the permissions r, w, x (read, write, execute)
[03:08] <variant> Noah0504: your using gnome-btdownloader?
[03:08] <Mojee> does anyone know what that messege means "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off"?
[03:08] <surfi_boi> but still cant paste a file into that partition
[03:08] <Noah0504> variant: Yes.
[03:08] <kitche> Dimensions: I didn't see your question
[03:08] <thefish> surfi_boi: chown changes the owner (or group)
[03:08] <variant> Noah0504: that is a limmitation of that program
[03:08] <AlexC_> variant: but the new kernel wont make it onto the new Edgy CD will it?
[03:08] <Mojee> does anyone know what that messege means "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off"? while trying to install ubuntu.
[03:08] <variant> AlexC_: no idea
[03:08] <variant> AlexC_: at some point
[03:08] <edscho> does anyone know the most robust way to make python 2.5 the default used on Edgy? If I change the /usr/bin/python symlink to python2.5, some things like bittorrent break
[03:09] <surfi_boi> thefish: So why cant i write into that dir now
[03:09] <soundray> Mojee: don't repeat pls. If someone knows, they will tell you
[03:09] <Noah0504> variant: Hmm, I've never had a problem in previous Ubuntu versions, just on Edgy.
[03:09] <Dimensions> Nox_ville: when you plug ur cell do dmesg ... will tell u if you have a gprs modem fone ... it it doesn't say any thing it means ur fone / cable isn't supported ... ELSE ... do these sudo Wvdial.conf /etc/wvdial ... and just change fone number in wvdial.conf as *99***1# and user name and passwd i donno if you are from UK or what ... type pon.wvdial it will connect u ...
[03:09] <thefish> surfi_boi: so now you can change a files permissions with "chmod u+rwx /path" that means "give the current owner of the file read, write and execute perms
[03:09] <AlexC_> pah, sorry variant im not angry at you - just generaly annoyed
[03:09] <variant> Noah0504: ok, then it's an edgy bug iwth that program.. cus i only ever used gnome-btdownloader once and that was on edgy :P
[03:09] <Noah0504> variant: haha
[03:09] <kitche> Dimensions: ah see if the sock is in /tmp for your mysql
[03:09] <variant> AlexC_: yeah, these things happen.. blame proprietry hardware specs
[03:09] <thefish> surfi_boi: chmod 750 give the owner rwx, the group r-x and others nothing
[03:10] <thefish> surfi_boi: so if you are happy with that, job done :)
[03:10] <Dimensions> umm kitche checking :)
[03:10] <Tom-Blind> Hello
[03:10] <surfi_boi> thefish i still cant paste files in there
[03:10] <Noah0504> variant: What BitTorrent client do you use?  (If you use one.)
[03:10] <variant> Noah0504: azureus, but i dont use it right now
[03:10] <dredhammer> hello again i finally got xserver back but now my LC_ALL is unset how do i reconfigure locale.conf?
[03:10] <surfi_boi> :~# chmod u+rwx /home/o
[03:10] <surfi_boi> was the command i used
[03:10] <variant> Noah0504: normally i download stuff from irc
[03:11] <Noah0504> variant: I see.
[03:11] <Nox_ville> is a java runtime environment automatically in ubuntu?
[03:11] <Dimensions> kitche: i dont have it in /tmp either as im using ubuntu
[03:11] <niksavel> if I install gnome on my kubuntu desktop and start using gnome, will it be any different than if I did a fresh install of ubuntu?
[03:11] <Nox_ville> !java
[03:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:11] <dredhammer> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale.conf does not work
[03:11] <variant> Noah0504: http://www.ircklipper.info
[03:11] <Tom-Blind> Would anyone know a way of doing a linux install completely through SSH?
[03:11] <surfi_boi> and within the graphical environment it still shows user as unknown
[03:11] <surfi_boi> and owner as unknown
[03:11] <variant> Tom-Blind: yeah, its very easy
[03:11] <khermans_> is there somehwere with the torrent?  ubuntu.com is slow as hell
[03:11] <YoussefAssad> dredhammer: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[03:11] <kitche> Dimensions: hmm guess they didn't make a sock for mysql
[03:11] <Noah0504> variant: Thanks.  :)
[03:11] <vorbote> dredhammer: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf"
[03:11] <dredhammer> ok thanks
[03:11] <variant> Tom-Blind: never done it with ubuntu though.. just gentoo
[03:11] <edscho> tom-blind: there are lots of instructions on doing that with Gentoo.
[03:11] <YoussefAssad> dredhammer: and then I suggest you install bash-completion
[03:11] <Dimensions> is ur prob solved now Nox_ville ?
[03:12] <Dimensions> kitche:  that would mean no one can use mysql on ubuntu ? how can i create that sock ?
[03:12] <variant> but really its not hard, just like doing a normal install mostly
[03:12] <thefish> if you need more granular than that, you can play with ACLs (getfacl, and setfacl) but you will need to remount with acl as a mount option (check me on that, may be slightly different)
[03:12] <Nox_ville> my ubuntu pc is being installed.....
[03:12] <maxb_at_work> I've just upgraded using the apt-get method... it went ok for the most part, but I had to manually "apt-get install ubuntu-minimal", and follow that up with a "Yes, do as I say!" to convince apt that I really did want sysvinit removed. Anyone else seen this?
[03:12] <kitche> Dimensions: it's a compile time feature
[03:12] <Nox_ville> @Dimension
[03:12] <Mojee> iam rebooting and while trying to install ubuntu iam getting the error "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off" does any one know whats the solution?
[03:12] <Tom-Blind> can someone PM me to talk about this as I can not see well enough to follow the room
[03:12] <thefish> surfi_boi: seems like i bounced :( i was saying that chmod 750 gives the owner rwx, group r-x and others no permissions on the files
[03:12] <edscho> Anyone know the 'official' way to make Python 2.5 the default in Edgy?
[03:12] <soundray> variant: it depends on the state of the remote PC in the beginning of the installation, though, doesn't it?
[03:13] <dredhammer> tells me its not fully installed or its brokern
[03:13] <Nox_ville> brb
[03:13] <Mojee> iam rebooting and while trying to install ubuntu iam getting the error "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off" does any one know whats the solution?
[03:13] <thefish> edscho: have you tried linking python2.5 to /usr/bin/python ?
[03:13] <eva> i have some problem with the repositories
[03:13] <bob4444> can anyone give me a had with the ECIadsl install just got suck on somthing?????????
[03:13] <variant> soundray: as long as it has plenty of swapspace or a free partition and is allready running a linux distro yeah
[03:13] <cyphase> how fast are the torrents coming?
[03:13] <surfi_boi> chmod -R 750 /home/o
[03:13] <variant> soundray: or if you can get someone to put a live cd in for you and start ssh
[03:13] <surfi_boi> was the command i used but no luck
[03:13] <cpk2> any apps that can encode from .mpg?
[03:13] <mandelum> http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ still have the rc in their filename... sould I wait to get a final release
[03:13] <dredhammer> mencoder
[03:13] <surfi_boi> im logged in as root in terminal is that correct
[03:13] <dredhammer> or avidemux
[03:13] <thefish> surfi_boi: what do you want to acheive?
[03:13] <Fujitsu> edscho: Yes. Don't.,
[03:13] <JebJoya> hey, anyone fancy guiding me through a problem I'm having with a PCMCIA wireless card?  (on previous version - no wireless atm means no internet :(  )
[03:13] <eva> what repositories do i need
[03:13] <Mojee> iam rebooting and while trying to install ubuntu iam getting the error "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off" does any one know whats the solution?
[03:13] <bob4444> pm me if u want
[03:14] <soundray> variant: important caveats, those ;)
[03:14] <Mojee> iam rebooting and while trying to install ubuntu iam getting the error "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off" does any one know whats the solution?
[03:14] <cpk2> avidemux apparently cant handle the mpg i am trying so i will check out mencoder
[03:14] <edscho> thefish: that works for python2.5 stuff, but breaks other stuff like bittorrent. Do you think this is a bug in bittorrent?
[03:14] <JebJoya> bob4444 was that toward me?
[03:14] <Tom-Blind> Would anyone know a way of doing a linux install completely through SSH? I need to login through a windows box using zoom software, I can not see the screen at all
[03:14] <thoreauputic> !repeat
[03:14] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:14] <surfi_boi> the fish i want my new partition /home/o to be writable for anyone at the moment i cant put any files on it
[03:14] <Fujitsu> Mojee: Please wait more than 17 seconds between repeats.
[03:14] <soundray> Mojee: I asked you before not to repeat your question.
[03:14] <kleinlapp> thefish when you have a chance here is my post http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28425/ (hope it helps)
[03:14] <surfi_boi> yet it is mounted etc
[03:14] <edscho> thefish: i mean a bug in the ubuntu bt package?
[03:14] <thefish> edscho: not sure sorry :(
[03:14] <variant> soundray: it might be possible to do it over a windows box with ssh and cygwin installed
[03:15] <Eldin> I feel slightly silly for asking, but how does one switch from playback to capture in alsamixer?
[03:15] <edscho> thefish: thanks anyway
[03:15] <Viaken> W00tcaeks!!
[03:15] <Mojee> soundray: ok..
[03:15] <soundray> variant: you'd have to know very well what you're doing. I wouldn't dare setting up partitions from cygwin...
[03:15] <bob4444> anyone here know much about eciadsl
[03:15] <joona> $oa = new Osaamisalue;
[03:15] <Tom-Blind> Would anyone know a way of doing a linux install completely through SSH? I need to login through a windows box using zoom software, I can not see the screen at all, please pm me as I am unable to see in the main room
[03:15] <Fujitsu> Eldin: It's tab, I think.
[03:15] <joona> sorry
[03:15] <Tom-Blind> your all too quick for me
[03:15] <Fujitsu> Eldin: Otherwise, man alsamixer will tell you.
[03:15] <mkara> Hi all. Is it possible to download Kubuntu 6.10 DVD image?
[03:16] <Eldin> Fujitsu: thanks... right too... feel so stupid now >.>
[03:16] <variant> soundray: as long as it has chroot (which im pretty sure it does) then it should be ok
[03:16] <Fujitsu> mkara: The DVD images are not yet available, as far as I know. They should appear on mirrors in the coming hours.
[03:16] <thefish> kleinlapp: looks like its something on the router eh - you have no firewall on the machines so it seems to be blocking ports
[03:16] <bob4444> i got stuck here: root@*******-desktop:/home/*******# modprobe -r dabusb && rm -f $(modprobe -1 | grep dabusb) && depmod -a
[03:16] <bob4444> modprobe: invalid option -- 1
[03:16] <bob4444> Usage: modprobe [-v]  [-V]  [-C config-file]  [-n]  [-i]  [-q]  [-Q]  [-b]  [-o <modname>]  <modname> [parameters...]
[03:16] <bob4444> modprobe -r [-n]  [-i]  [-v]  <modulename> ...
[03:16] <bob4444> modprobe -l -t <dirname> [ -a <modulename> ...]
[03:16] <bob4444> root@*******-desktop:/home/*******#
[03:16] <surfi_boi> thefish: i want my new partition /home/o to be writable for anyone at the moment i cant put any files on it
[03:16] <Fujitsu> !paste
[03:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:16] <Mojee> iam getting the error m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off while trying to install what should i do?
[03:16] <variant> soundray: maybe just enough to get a basic semi working real linux system installed from which youcould do it again properly :)
[03:16] <thefish> kleinlapp: have you tried with a liveCD? just boot up and dont install, then try to get on irc etc
[03:17] <surfi_boi> it is just frustrating as whenever i try and create a partition from the desktop i seem to have this problem
[03:17] <soundray> variant: sounds like you're the one who might help Tom-Blind
[03:17] <JebJoya> anyone know anything about ubuntu hanging when a PCMCIA card is inserted (although it did work briefly once...)
[03:17] <jelly> Hello, are dist-upgrades tested and supposed to work in Ubuntu?
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> Tom-Blind: debian can definately do it (not sure about ubuntu - maybe its the same method)http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed
[03:17] <mkara> Fujitsu: Thanks.
[03:17] <variant> soundray: yeah well, if he wants it :P
[03:17] <variant> jelly: yes
[03:17] <JebJoya> (sorry for repeat, i thought it may have got rather lost in the fray)
[03:17] <Fujitsu> jelly: Yes, but only between consecutive versions.
[03:17] <thefish> surfi_boi: its not a great idea to make your home writeable by anyone, but you could do it with chmod ugo+rw /home/o
[03:17] <c0nf> dudes
[03:17] <thefish> surfi_boi: what is your username? o?
[03:17] <c0nf> i know how to install nvidia graphic drivers for 6.06
[03:17] <surfi_boi> thinkpol
[03:17] <Tom-Blind> so many people and no ideas?
[03:17] <c0nf> setup is the same for 6.10?
[03:17] <surfi_boi> thefish: thinkpol
[03:17] <jelly> Fujitsu: that's exactly what I want, dapper -> edgy.
[03:18] <Nox_ville> ppl. ive put in my live cd.. it shows the pc booting but when it loads x,  but then my screen freaks out, funny distorted pictures appear and my power button on the screen flashes on and off.
[03:18] <variant> Tom-Blind: hello.. i just gave you a ton
[03:18] <variant> lol
[03:18] <Fujitsu> jelly: See the link in the topic...
[03:18] <Mojee> iam getting the error m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off while trying to install what should i do?
[03:18] <thefish> surfi_boi: was /home/o just a typo?
[03:18] <Fujitsu> !nvidia | c0nf
[03:18] <ubotu> c0nf: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:18] <variant> Tom-Blind: describe the system you are remotely installing to
[03:18] <gilnim|double> short question: is there a difference between the beta with updates and the released version from today?
[03:18] <c0nf> meh, gonna check, thx
[03:18] <Fujitsu> gilnim|double: No.
[03:18] <c0nf> there is only for 6.06
[03:18] <c0nf> and i know how to do it for 6.06 =)
[03:18] <kleinlapp> thefish k will try that if that also does not work then is it my network setup?
[03:18] <eva> anyone good at repositories pls help
[03:18] <thefish> gilnim|double: if you installed a beta, just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:18] <gilnim|double> Fujitsu: alright - wasn't sure
[03:18] <Fujitsu> c0nf, it's the same, in that case.
[03:18] <surfi_boi> you see i make a new partition and im not sure what to make the access point
[03:18] <c0nf> ok, thx
[03:18] <Fujitsu> !ask | eva
[03:18] <ubotu> eva: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:19] <thefish> kleinlapp: i would guess at that yes
[03:19] <Eldin> Hmmm, mic is redded out in capture, but works fine if used for playback
[03:19] <gilnim|double> thefish: i just wondered because there are no updates :)
[03:19] <surfi_boi> thefish: Whenever i make a new partition i dont know what to make the access point. what should i make it for a spare data partition?
[03:19] <eva> i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28426/
[03:19] <thefish> kleinlapp: i cant imagine what else it could be, are they plugged into different switches/hubs than the xp boxen?
[03:19] <Tom-Blind> Variant I can not see well enough to read the main room could you e-mail it? Plz
[03:19] <ninan> hi ppl. do you have an splashscreen with upstart? i installed the rc with update manager and had some problems booting. i have to switch to console 1 to boot the system. software is current with release now
[03:19] <Fujitsu> gilnim|double: There have been only a couple of uploads to Edgy in the past 48 hours, so that'd do it.
[03:19] <Nox_ville> ppl. ive put in my live cd.. it shows the pc booting but when it loads x,  but then my screen freaks out, funny distorted pictures appear and my power button on the screen flashes on and off.
[03:19] <variant> Tom-Blind: no, but we can discuss it in /query if you prefer (you have to register with nickserv)
[03:20] <Nox_ville> help please
[03:20] <reiki_work> I see the nVidia driver note removed from topic now. If I update from 6.06 to 6.10 when I get home from work, will I be getting teh updated driver? Or do I still need to manually mess with that piece?
[03:20] <Fujitsu> !repeat | Nox_ville
[03:20] <eva> now i cant update
[03:20] <ubotu> Nox_ville: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:20] <thefish> surfi_boi: anything you like, i have a couple called data1 and data2, but the choice is yours
[03:20] <surfi_boi> thefish: What should i make the access point though after they are created?
[03:20] <Amaranth> reiki_work: It was only removed because there wasn't room for it
[03:20] <keithhhh> anyone have have good programs for encoding dv video....basically i want to take my DV tapes and put it onto on a DVD
[03:20] <cpk2> how do you search a man page again?
[03:20] <cpk2> the mencoder man is huge
[03:20] <Fujitsu> eva: Looks like the server is overloaded. Maybe wait a couple of hours.
[03:20] <gilnim|double> Fujitsu: I downloaded the last updates yesterday
[03:20] <thefish> surfi_boi: just make sure that they are in your /etc/fstab, and they will mount every time you reboot (eg /dev/sda1   /data1)
[03:20] <Fujitsu> cpk2: /whatever
[03:20] <Tom-Blind> lol, is there not a quiet room?
[03:20] <reiki_work> Amaranth: ok thanks... kinda figured that might also be the case :)
[03:20] <Nox_ville> Fujitsu sorry.. desperate situation.. so desperate im using my phone to ask for help here....
[03:20] <Fujitsu> gilnim|double: In that case, there are no updates.
[03:21] <thefish> surfi_boi: not sure what you mean? access point?
[03:21] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: Ouch!
[03:21] <gilnim|double> Edgy Eft rules! :)
[03:21] <dredhammer> is installing the ATI driver the same for Edgy as it is for Dapper?
[03:21] <variant> Tom-Blind: /join #slax
[03:21] <thefish> surfi_boi: do you mean mount point, like /sparedisk?
[03:21] <Nox_ville> sorry.. so any ideas?
[03:21] <soundray> Nox_ville: when you get to the first ubuntu screen, look at the help screens. There is something like vga=771 which you can add as a boot option. That should help
[03:21] <variant> Tom-Blind: /join #slax
[03:21] <tritium> dredhammer: yes
[03:21] <eva> Fujitsu thanks
[03:21] <surfi_boi> thefish: in gparted teh status of it is dev/sda3... but the mount point is /home/o
[03:21] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: Try to boot using the safe graphics mode option.
[03:21] <dredhammer> ok thanks tritium
[03:21] <gilnim|double> dredhammer: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[03:21] <thefish> aah
[03:21] <surfi_boi> so when i use chown should i be pointing to the device? or the mount point
[03:22] <thefish> surfi_boi: ok i wouldnt do that
[03:22] <Fujitsu> surfi_boi: Mountpoint.
[03:22] <gilnim|double> dredhammer: that worked well for me
[03:22] <surfi_boi> thefish:what would you do?
[03:22] <thefish> surfi_boi: although it will work.
[03:22] <Nox_ville> soundray, could it be my graphics card? 6600gt
[03:22] <surfi_boi> what should i do then?
[03:22] <JebJoya> I have a PCMCIA wireless card for my laptop, dual boot with windows and ubuntu (need windows for work unfortunately), Ubuntu hangs when the wireless PCMCIA card is inserted (it works in Windows), even though it did work for about 30 seconds once - any suggestions?
[03:22] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: Try the safe graphics mode option... Your graphics card could be the problem.
[03:22] <thefish> surfi_boi: I would make the mount point something at the root, like /storage or something
[03:22] <soundray> Nox_ville: probably, but it will work with Fujitsu's or my suggestion
[03:23] <MonsieurBon> should i terminate any apps before doing a dist-upgrade?
[03:23] <thefish> surfi_boi: then make sure it is mounted, you can check with "mount" on the console, and look for a line /dev/sda3, that will tell you where its mounted
[03:23] <Fujitsu> MonsieurBon: It's not necessary, but thinks like Firefox might crash if you don't.
[03:23] <Eleaf> oh lol
[03:23] <Eleaf> I was kicked
[03:23] <Fujitsu> *things
[03:23] <Eleaf> (from+1)
[03:23] <gilnim|double> JebJoya: Ndiswrapper
[03:23] <lupine_85> oh wow, edgy+1 is gone
[03:23] <lupine_85> erm, ubuntu+1
[03:23] <surfi_boi> /dev/sda3 on /home/o type ext3 (rw)
[03:23] <Nox_ville> soundray: k.. but will my graphics card ever work in ubuntu.. if i install Nvidia graphics drivers?
[03:24] <Eleaf> yeah lupine_85
[03:24] <Mojee> iam getting the error m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off while trying to install what should i do?
[03:24] <JebJoya> ndiswrapper?  google it?
[03:24] <surfi_boi> thefish:/dev/sda3 on /home/o type ext3 (rw)
[03:24] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: Yes, it should work fine once you install the proprietary drivers.
[03:24] <gilnim|double> !ndiswrapper
[03:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:24] <MonsieurBon> Fujitsu: doesn't harm anything though, if they do, does it? So I'm just not doing anything important like ebanking! :)
[03:24] <Fujitsu> MonsieurBon: No, it'll just close unexpectedly.
[03:24] <thefish> surfi_boi: ok its already mounted, edit your /etc/fstab now to change the mount point if you want
[03:24] <JebJoya> thanks gilnim|double
[03:24] <tritium> lupine_85: no, #ubuntu+1 (when it's back open) will be for feisty
[03:24] <lupine_85> JebJoya: which chipset?
[03:24] <Eleaf> lupine_85, I agree
[03:25] <MonsieurBon> Fujitsu: very good then! thank you!
[03:25] <gilnim|double> JebJoya: welcome - or try google; could work
[03:25] <surfi_boi> ok but i cant write to it still which is my problem thefish
[03:25] <burzum> ive just upgraded to edgy and now there no window-decorations. :( any ideas how to solve this?
[03:25] <JebJoya> phew, that's a question, it's a cheap-o third party one...
[03:25] <Nox_ville> Fujitsu: same question as above... pls
[03:25] <burzum> ive used beryl in dapper
[03:25] <Fujitsu> burzum: Were you using Xgl, by any chance?
[03:25] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[03:25] <lupine_85> JebJoya: PCI?
[03:25] <JebJoya> PCMCIA
[03:25] <Fujitsu> burzum: Well, you might want to disable it, or reinstall it.
[03:25] <burzum> Fujitsu: yes, in dapper i was. i dont know what the upgrade changed
[03:25] <lupine_85> ok... what't the line it presents in lspci?
[03:26] <thefish> surfi_boi: pastebin the results of this command please: "ls -la /home/o"
[03:26] <Fujitsu> burzum: There is a new version of X, for one thing, that could have broken it...
[03:26] <Fujitsu> burzum: Follow the Edgy beryl installation instructions.
[03:26] <JebJoya> lspci? (sorry, fairly new to linux...) :S
[03:26] <surfi_boi> drwxr-x--- 3 thinkpol thinkpol  4096 Oct 26 22:55 .
[03:26] <surfi_boi> drwxr-xr-x 4 root     root      4096 Oct 13 07:37 ..
[03:26] <surfi_boi> -rwxr-x--- 1 thinkpol thinkpol     0 Oct 26 22:55 .sudo_as_admin_successful
[03:26] <surfi_boi> drwxr-x--- 2 thinkpol thinkpol 16384 Oct 26 21:49 lost+found
[03:26] <Fujitsu> JebJoya: Lists devices on the PCI bus.
[03:26] <lupine_85> in a terminal, just type "lspci"
[03:26] <Fujitsu> !paste
[03:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:26] <Mojee> iam rebooting and while trying to install ubuntu iam getting the error "m/sh: can't acess tty;job control turend off" does any one know whats the solution?
[03:26] <cyphase> has anyone used beryl on both dapper and edgy? what's the difference?
[03:26] <reiki_work> !paste
[03:26] <Nox_ville> Fujitsu: k.. but will my graphics card ever work in ubuntu.. if i install Nvidia graphics drivers?
[03:26] <burzum> Fujitsu do you have a link?
[03:27] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: I said above, yes.
[03:27] <lupine_85> find the line that looks like it's for the device and paste it here... if you're not sure, just pastebin the whole thing
[03:27] <Toma-> cyphase: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:27] <Fujitsu> burzum: BerylOnEdgy on the wiki, or something like that.
[03:27] <Fujitsu> burzum: Otherwise, check in #ubuntu-xgl.
[03:27] <Kameli> How i can upgrade my Dapper to the newest Edgy? =( www.ubuntu.com says that it's released :'(
[03:27] <burzum> thank you
[03:27] <reiki_work> Nox_ville: were you running Ubuntu before? (I missed teh beginning) or are you installing for teh first time?
[03:27] <Nox_ville> kewl.. i missed that.. my phone only can see like the last 50 messages....
[03:27] <Fujitsu> Kameli: See the link in the topic.
[03:27] <Kameli> Fujitsu: ok =)
[03:27] <UNDERsoN> !current
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about current - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: that's quite understandable :)
[03:27] <Mojee> you know what..
[03:28] <Mojee> fuck you all
[03:28] <Mojee> noobs
[03:28] <lupine_85> The good news is that edgy's wireless support r0x0rz compared to Dapper's
[03:28] <Mojee> cocks suckers
[03:28] <Nox_ville> reiki_work: no.. im trying to install.
[03:28] <lupine_85> ooh, matron
[03:28] <UNDERsoN> Can I download edgy DVD today?
[03:28] <Toma-> pwnt!
[03:28] <surfi_boi> thefish:drwxr-x--- 3 thinkpol thinkpol  4096 Oct 26 22:55 .
[03:28] <surfi_boi> drwxr-xr-x 4 root     root      4096 Oct 13 07:37 ..
[03:28] <surfi_boi> -rwxr-x--- 1 thinkpol thinkpol     0 Oct 26 22:55 .sudo_as_admin_successful
[03:28] <surfi_boi> drwxr-x--- 2 thinkpol thinkpol 16384 Oct 26 21:49 lost+found
[03:28] <Fujitsu> Thanks tritium.
[03:28] <Fujitsu> !paste | surfi_boi
[03:28] <ubotu> surfi_boi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:28] <tritium> Fujitsu: any time!
[03:28] <surfi_boi> sorry guys
[03:28] <finalbeta> Suns Java will fully be open source in about 2 months using OSI license, does this mean Ubuntu will be able to delever Suns Java standard? The other projects will fade out?
[03:28] <Kameli> Is that Edgy faster or slower now in games? :)
[03:28] <JebJoya> lupine_85, I'm guessing it's 0000:02:00.0 Network Controller: RaLink: Unknown Device 0301
[03:28] <thefish> surfi_boi: try the pastebin ;)
[03:29] <lupine_85> ah, you're in luck if it's an ralink - they're very well supported
[03:29] <JebJoya> lupine_85, I guess that the "unknown device" is the issue?
[03:29] <Fujitsu> finalbeta: I doubt they will fade out...
[03:29] <lupine_85> edgy or dapper?
[03:29] <JebJoya> oh, cool
[03:29] <JebJoya> dapper atm
[03:29] <Fujitsu> Kameli: depends, and that's a fairly silly question.
[03:29] <JebJoya> edgy when i get internet ;)
[03:29] <reiki_work> Nox_ville: I'm running a rather rare nVidia card apparently... a 6300gt model with 512MB and it works great. So yeah, your nVidia card will work fine.
[03:29] <lupine_85> ok. If you update to edgy, it will "just work"
[03:29] <JebJoya> oh
[03:29] <JebJoya> cool :)
[03:29] <lupine_85> in the meantime, I still have a repo that does the same for dapper
[03:29] <thefish> surfi_boi: ok and your username is thinkpol? if so, open a new console as thinkpol, and try "touch /home/o/test" and let me know the results
[03:30] <JebJoya> unfortunately, i have no connection to my laptop atm, i'll wait til i get home where i have wired internet
[03:30] <chplanet_> Hi
[03:30] <JebJoya> i was hoping that edge would just fix it :)
[03:30] <Fujitsu> Hi chplanet_
[03:30] <cyphase> turns out I had a bad stick of memory
[03:30] <gilnim> does somebody know the little panel icon for xchat?
[03:30] <lupine_85> it fixes it pretty well :)
[03:30] <Nox_ville> reiki: did you have any problems when first installing?
[03:30] <lupine_85> you also want to watch out for the package "rutilt" - it's not in quite yet, but when it becomes available, install it
[03:30] <ppd> hi. I have installed ubuntu edgy on my computer and I have the problem, that vim doesn't do the things I want it to when pressing e.g INSERT. it almost seems to me that I have a wrong keymap or something like that, but in normal gnome-terminal mode everything works fine
[03:30] <JebJoya> the one major issue i have, lupine_85, is that my laptop can no longer load any new windows after i plug in the card :S
[03:31] <lupine_85> it's a GUI application to set up ralink cards - supports WEP, WPA, the whole nine yards
[03:31] <JebJoya> hard-reboot ahoy!
[03:31] <surfi_boi> thefish: appeared just to process the command and goes to next line
[03:31] <JebJoya> oh, cool :)
[03:31] <reiki_work> Nox_ville: I don't honestly recall errors installing. I know it used teh nv driver by default and then I had to move up to the nVidia drivers
[03:31] <Fujitsu> ppd, install the vim package. vim-tiny is included by default, which has fewer features.
[03:31] <lupine_85> JebJoya: the dapper drivers were a year out of date, and didn't play well with the kernel
[03:31] <Nox_ville> reiki_work: oh.. kewl
[03:31] <surfi_boi> ohh and now in my dir there appears to be a test file
[03:31] <lupine_85> trust me - it works :)
[03:31] <vorbote> ppd: The default vim installation is minimal. You can install a full non-graphical vim from wither the CD or the repositories.
[03:31] <thefish> surfi_boi: you can write then, ls /home/o and you will see a new file called "test"
[03:31] <JebJoya> that;s cool, thanks for that :)
[03:31] <JebJoya> yay!
[03:31] <lupine_85> np
[03:32] <Nox_ville> OK: General Poll: Mark Shuttleworth has a tiny penis (message all responses via pvt message)
[03:32] <surfi_boi> thefish: excellent :) i can see that so i can write to my new partition it seems
[03:32] <ppd> thank you Fujitsu and vorbote. what's the reason for not including it?!
[03:32] <gilnim> does somebody know the little panel icon for xchat? I want get it back! - you could click on it and Xchat would disappear
[03:32] <gilnim> !xchat
[03:32] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[03:32] <Fujitsu> ppd, vim is like 10MB or so, it's massive.
[03:33] <reiki_work> would it be worthwhile to upgrade from teh RC cd and then update from that point? Or would I be creating problems?
[03:33] <kitche> gilnim: think it's in xchat preferences
[03:33] <Fujitsu> reiki_work: That will work fine.
[03:33] <thefish> surfi_boi: yay! just make sure its in /etc/fstab, and think about a different mountpoint (it does not have to be in /home for others to write to it
[03:33] <surfi_boi> excellent so it appears i can write to my new directory :) thankyou so much thefish :)
[03:33] <surfi_boi> thefish:how do i make sure its in /etc/fstab
[03:33] <surfi_boi> and will it automount when i start linux
[03:33] <reiki_work> Fujitsu: thanks... that'll be my contribution to conserving bandwidth since I just downloaded that iso a couple days ago :)
[03:33] <thefish> surfi_boi: also, you will need to chmod ugo+rwx for others to be able to read write and execute from it
[03:34] <Dragonfire1_> test
[03:34] <tritium> good night, Fujitsu
[03:34] <Fujitsu> reiki_work: No problem, and thankyou for being considerate of the download servers :)
[03:34] <Fujitsu> See ya, tritium.
[03:34] <Fujitsu> Dragonfire1_: Failed.
[03:34] <thefish> surfi_boi: ok, you got me, i use vi, but its not very user friendly at first, cant remember the default editor for ubuntu, maybe gedit?
[03:34] <gilnim> kitche: it's not - i checked
[03:35] <Fujitsu> thefish: Try nano; it's CLI based and simple.
[03:35] <Tschaka> gilnom
[03:35] <Fujitsu> (and installed by default)
[03:35] <Tschaka> xchat-trayicon imho
[03:35] <thefish> surfi_boi: there you go, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:35] <thefish> cheers Fujitsu
[03:35] <Fujitsu> thefish: No problem, that's what I'm here for :)
[03:35] <NET||abuse> hi guys,, having trouble getting my screens right with nvidia beta driver.. i have 2 screens plugged in, one 15" and one 19"
[03:35] <gilnim> Tschaka: thx
[03:35] <Nox_ville> hurray
[03:35] <NET||abuse> it's jumping onto the blasted 15" and not useing 19"
[03:36] <niksavel> in the update howto is said I need to run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 after dist-upgrade, but I get that kubuntu-desktop could not be installed because it has unmet dependencies
[03:36] <Tschaka> gilnim sry, my bad: xchat-systray or xchat-systray-integration
[03:36] <thefish> surfi_boi: once you have edited it, make sure you have the mount point directory ready (mkdir /mountpointnameyouchose), then sudo mount -a -o,remount
[03:36] <surfi_boi> thefish:and what exactly am i changing in the file
[03:36] <niksavel> dist-upgrade also said 39 not upgraded
[03:37] <thefish> surfi_boi: look for /home/o and change it to /whateveryouchoose
[03:37] <mario__> hello!
[03:37] <thefish> surfi_boi: obviously, change that ;)
[03:37] <c0nf> hello -
[03:37] <niksavel> can any1 help?
[03:37] <Fujitsu> niksavel: Ensure you run dist-upgrade twice.
[03:37] <UNDERsoN> what size of DVD image Edgy Ubuntu?
[03:37] <WooD> Is there a big difference between Dapper and Edgy ?
[03:37] <thefish> niksavel: dont worry, its probably because of a dependancy that couldnt be solved right now, it will sort itself out
[03:37] <Fujitsu> See you all tomorrow, and happy Edgy day!
[03:37] <Yancho|BNC> does gcc come with ubuntu or i have to download it extra ?
[03:37] <i386> yay edgy
[03:37] <nashnash> thefish
[03:37] <nashnash> What is the matrix?
[03:37] <Fujitsu> WooD: of course!
[03:37] <nashnash> I Know Kongfu
[03:37] <niksavel> fujitsu: yes I ded
[03:38] <niksavel> did
[03:38] <Fujitsu> Yancho|BNC: Extra. Install build-essential
[03:38] <gilnim> nashnash: ask Neo
[03:38] <UNDERsoN> what size of DVD image Edgy Ubuntu?
[03:38] <thefish> nashnash: i am not at liberty to answer that
[03:38] <niksavel> several times
[03:38] <apokryphos> WooD: yes, see the release notes
[03:38] <Fujitsu> !repeat | UNDERsoN
[03:38] <ubotu> UNDERsoN: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:38] <WooD> OK
[03:38] <Fujitsu> niksavel: Are they python packages?
[03:38] <kzv> !edgy
[03:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:38] <gilnim> !patience
[03:38] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:38] <surfi_boi> thefish: and sorry how do i change the partition so it is automatically mounted on boot
[03:38] <det> Text looks nicer in Edgy than Dapper.
[03:38] <NET||abuse> so does anyone know how to change which screen is default, i need to get a different screen as the one X loads up on
[03:39] <thefish> surfi_boi: /etc/fstab does that - anything in there is automatically mounted
[03:39] <hume> where do I place a script that unlocks my encrypted partitions, so it runs at login / boot, and asks me for a password? I have a simple shesscript for it, running dmcrypt
[03:39] <hume> shellscritp
[03:39] <niksavel> Fujitsu: mostly yes
[03:39] <Dimensions> kitche: what shoujld i do now ... abt mysql.sock ?
[03:39] <cafuego> hume: A script that contains the password?
[03:39] <George> Hello can somebody help me please
[03:39] <hume> cafuego, no, that asks me for it
[03:39] <thefish> Dimensions: its a socket for mysql, some apps communicate via it to mysql
[03:39] <gnomefreak> !helpme | George
[03:39] <ubotu> George: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:39] <George> Edy Eft does it come with out of the box twinview aixgl?
[03:39] <kitche> Dimensions: well you can do sudo updatedb && locate mysql.sock just to make sure it's not in a place that it shouldn't be
[03:40] <cafuego> hume: Is the homedir encrypted or a different data partition?
[03:40] <mario__> I'm from Chile (southamerica) and I work in a local University, we want to create an official ubuntu mirror. We'd like to do some privates tests on it and after that open it to Internet
[03:40] <hume> cafuego, a different partition, or really a loopback device
[03:40] <eva> i am trying to update with my cd but it dont work anyone knows what to do
[03:40] <Jfrench> Is Edgy officially out yet?
[03:40] <kitche> Jfrench: yes
[03:40] <Fujitsu> Jfrench: yes, see the topic.
[03:40] <Tschaka> yep
[03:40] <apokryphos> Jfrench: /topic
[03:40] <Yancho|BNC> is there some way i can download the extra files which are available to download through the download manager pls ?
[03:40] <mario__> the questions is: can I do that with rsync or another tool?
[03:41] <Eleaf> !milks
[03:41] <apokryphos> mario__: Hi. Check the wiki page for instructions on becoming a mirror
[03:41] <NET||abuse> hey guys,, canyone able to help me with controlling which monitor X loads up on?
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about milks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <cafuego> hume: *nod* You could interface the script via zenity and run it via the gnome sessions/startup panel.
[03:41] <NET||abuse> i've tried setting things in xorg.conf, now my screens don't power up :(
[03:41] <Jfrench> LoL iKnew i was gonna get spamed with that after i asked, i always forget
[03:41] <cafuego> mario__: debmirror basically, afaik.
[03:41] <George> Edy Eft does it come with out of the box twinview aixgl? <-- Can somebody answer please?
[03:41] <Dimensions> kitche:  the command does nothing ... its just gone doing nothing at all ...
[03:42] <hume> cafuego, interface via zenity? how do I do that? got any instructions somwhere?
[03:42] <kitche> Dimensions: it might not while it's updating the db
[03:42] <Adriano> George: I don't think so
[03:42] <kitche> Dimensions: anyways I have to go since I have English Class in the morning
[03:42] <hume> cafuego, i run KDE, but I guess KDEs autostart is equivalent
[03:42] <cafuego> hume: 'man zenity' :-)  it's *really* easy.
[03:42] <George> So is it hard to set up xgl in Edgy Eft?
[03:42] <kuja> Can someone guide me as to how I can update my Ubuntu box at home, that does not have a net connection? I have access to a Windows box with an internet connection, but having this, how can I update my Ubuntu box at home (removable media)
[03:42] <hume> cafuego, ok, i'll check
[03:42] <pyranha> this may be an odd question....but is there any way to make ubuntu/linux be login free?  i.e. not have a login and password prompt and just login to the desktop?
[03:42] <Fujitsu> George: not at all, but ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:42] <cafuego> hume: Yeah... just so you get prompted at login or somesuch.
[03:42] <Dimensions> ahhh kitche sure ... brof ... but what should i do after that command returns ?
[03:42] <Fujitsu> pyranha: System->Administration->Login Screen
[03:42] <niksavel> BIG problems after upgrading to edgy
[03:42] <cafuego> s/at/after/
[03:42] <niksavel> help please
[03:43] <reiki_work> kuja: topic has link for how to upgrade, and includes a CD method
[03:43] <mikm[laptop] > pyranha If you go to the login settings page (under system-> administration)
[03:43] <George> ok thank you Fujitsu
[03:43] <Adriano> pyranha: there's a way
[03:43] <mikm[laptop] > Bah,
[03:43] <maxb_at_work> Is there anyone using svnjavahl with eclipse in Edgy? I had it working in Dapper, but now it causes the VM to die.
[03:43] <Adriano> that's the way
[03:43] <niksavel> pretty please
[03:43] <kuja> reiki_work: No, I'm talking about upgrading my dapper with new packages, not the distribution.
[03:43] <niksavel> dont have xorg, and it wont install
[03:43] <Tjoels> how do you install firefox 2? it's in a tar.gz file. Is it source?
[03:44] <finalbeta> how fast are the downloads going?
[03:44] <Fujitsu> OK, attempting to go the bed for the third time now...
[03:44] <Adriano> niksavel: error messages?
[03:44] <Fujitsu> Tjoels: Don't attempt it on Dapper, pllllease.
[03:44] <apokryphos> 'night Fujitsu :)
[03:44] <Adriano> Tjoels: it's already on edgy
[03:44] <mista> just installed 6.06 any point to update to 6.10?
[03:44] <Adriano> mista
[03:44] <Tjoels> Fujitsu: why? cause theres only one day or so till edgy?
[03:44] <raiXer> it has gnome 2.16 and Upstart
[03:45] <Adriano> mista: maybe
[03:45] <pyranha> the boot sequence is supposed to be way faster
[03:45] <elkbuntu> Tjoels, edgy is actually out
[03:45] <Kameli> Hey, need i type gksu "update-manager -c" in tty2 with CTRL+ALT+F2 without X, or in gnome terminal?
[03:45] <kofwang> can desktop install CD upgrades 6.06 to 6.10 using sudo apt-cdrom add and sudo apt-get update?
[03:45] <Tschaka> kameli in gonme terminal
[03:45] <Tschaka> with x started
[03:45] <Adriano> gksu won't work without X,  AFAIK
[03:45] <Kameli> Tschaka: ok :)
[03:45] <CarinArr> would update-manager work wihtout a gui?
[03:46] <Tjoels> elkbuntu: eh, is it? :D wtf. can you do an upgrade install to keep all the programs and stuff?
[03:46] <raiXer> yes
[03:46] <mista> how do i make mplayer only open once each time i click on a video/music file?
[03:46] <raiXer> Tjoels, yes
[03:46] <gnomefreak> CarinArr: no
[03:46] <kofwang> can desktop install CD upgrades 6.06 to 6.10 using sudo apt-cdrom add and sudo apt-get update?
[03:46] <Tschaka> carinarr i suppose you need to choose the apt-get distupgrade option then but dunno.
[03:46] <UNDERsoN> where can I download a DVD image not CD!
[03:46] <gnomefreak> kofwang: update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:46] <eva> i like to change in my source file but i cant save it how do i so that
[03:46] <Adriano> aargh. too confusing, too many repeated questions. Better be back when people calm down
[03:46] <Adriano> byes
[03:46] <reiki_work> UNDERsoN: DVD images not available yet
[03:47] <reiki_work> or at least that's my understanding
[03:47] <Tjoels> raiXer: great!
[03:47] <UNDERsoN> reiki_work and when it would be avalible?
[03:47] <mista> ok so i have a raid 0 (X2 80Gig drives how do mount it? ive read up on it and still cant work it out
[03:47] <reiki_work> UNDERsoN: maybe a few hours? I don't know
[03:47] <gnomefreak> UNDERsoN: hold on a sec
[03:48] <lupine_85> ...
[03:48] <niksavel> anyone got a minute to help me out with this edgy upgrade...  seems to have messed up my x, and I'll have to shut down soon and prolly wont be able to start the comp again.... :/
[03:48] <lupine_85> all that "don't update until we tell you to!", and there's absolutely no change between edgy 00:00BST and edgy release
[03:48] <eva> i like to open a source file how do i do it
[03:48] <eva> and change in it
[03:48] <gnomefreak> UNDERsoN: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/   is what people have been using
[03:48] <reiki_work> eva: you need to sudo to save the /etc/at-sources.list file
[03:48] <UNDERsoN> gnomefreak Thank you!!
[03:48] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:49] <davvs_> how can i see how much disk space i have left on a disk from commandline?
[03:49] <rwscold> hey ummm i cant boot the live cd not even in safe mode start of x fails blah blah no screens found or whatever
[03:49] <eva> reiki_work sudo in the terminal window
[03:49] <lupine_85> df -h
[03:49] <davvs_> ok thanks lupine_85
[03:49] <niksavel> somebody who knows stuff please give me a minute of your time: :)
[03:49] <lupine_85> niksavel: what's it done?
[03:50] <reiki_work> eva: in terminal sudo gedit /etc/aptsources.list
[03:50] <AlanHaggai> when I type gksu "update-manager -c"
[03:50] <Tjoels> can you update to edgy without dl'ing and burning a cd?
[03:50] <rwscold> hey ummm i cant boot the live cd not even in safe mode start of x fails blah blah no screens found or whatever
[03:50] <AlanHaggai> to update my 6.06 to 6.10
[03:50] <reiki_work> I might have mistyped that. :)  going too fast
[03:50] <dabaR> Tjoels: yes.
[03:50] <NET||abuse> i got a real problem, i've done somethign silly with xorg.conf, gdm start brings up X ok, but i've got nothing on the screen, it goes into power save mode??? anyone know what i can do here?
[03:50] <KenSentMe> Has Feisty been released yet :P
[03:50] <dabaR> !upgrade
[03:50] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:50] <dooglus> hi guys.  I just tried using apt-get to update to edgy, but it complains that problems were encourtered while processing acpid and acpi-support.  What can I do?
[03:50] <lupine_85> in general, just make sure that you reinstall ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-desktop or whatever) before you restart, and you're fine
[03:50] <AlanHaggai> It says my system is already updated
[03:50] <Tjoels> dabaR, how?
[03:50] <AlanHaggai> why so?
[03:50] <lupine_85> !update
[03:50] <yoshiznit123> yay, edgy! :-P
[03:51] <lupine_85> Tjoels: like that :)
[03:51] <mista> ok so i have a raid 0 (X2 80Gig drives) how do mount it? ive read up on it and still cant work it out
[03:51] <dabaR> Tjoels: read this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:51] <yoshiznit123> oh wait i've already been running it
[03:51] <daflat> wooooo
[03:51] <daflat> upgrading to edgy now
[03:51] <Tjoels> lupine_85: just "!update"? :D :D :D :D :P
[03:51] <dabaR> AlanHaggai: sudo aptitude update, maybe
[03:51] <daflat> gonna take another 40 mins
[03:51] <AlanHaggai> ok
[03:51] <AlanHaggai> thanks
[03:51] <lupine_85> heh, no. ubotu is meant to tell you about it
[03:51] <Tjoels> dabaR, thx
[03:51] <cafuego> mista: Load the modules, start mdadm and mound /dev/md0
[03:51] <AlanHaggai> will try that
[03:51] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: do u have the edgy repositories in ur sources.list ?
[03:51] <lupine_85> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes is the link
[03:51] <apokryphos> For upgrading, please read the instructions in the /topic
[03:51] <AlanHaggai> let me check _deb_
[03:51] <daflat> my laptop was a clean install...
[03:52] <mista> load wht modules?
[03:52] <daflat> this old box is gonna be updated!
[03:52] <cafuego> the raid ones
[03:52] <daflat> Breezy---->Dapper----->Edgy
[03:52] <dabaR> daflat: stop sending irrelevant to us messages.
[03:52] <cafuego> I'm assuming you nean kernel mode software raid.
[03:52] <hume> cafuego, i'm fiddling with zenity, found out how to make a dialog asking for password, but how do I send that to the cryptsetup-command?
[03:52] <niksavel>  <niksavel>   xorg: Depends: libgl1-mesa-glx but it is not going to be installed
[03:52] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: if not just replace dapper with edgy and start a sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[03:52] <_lemsx1_> daflat: Breezy --> cross fingers --> Edgy
[03:52] <mista> nope dont understand
[03:52] <asdx|work> will ubuntu shipt 6.10 cds someday?
[03:52] <apokryphos> _lemsx1_: no, that will break
[03:52] <cafuego> hume: Store it in an env var in the script and pass it as option (orwecho it in)
[03:53] <lupine_85> _lemsx1_: that will break *badly*
[03:53] <lupine_85> go through dapper
[03:53] <cafuego> mista: If you're using on-board software raid I can't help you.
[03:53] <apokryphos> Everyone: for upgrading, please read the instructions in the /topic
[03:53] <_lemsx1_> apokryphos: crossing your fingers?
[03:53] <dabaR> asdx|work: no http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[03:53] <niksavel> lupine_85: help? :)
[03:53] <cafuego> Short of advising you not to
[03:53] <mista> using nforce 4 sata drives
[03:53] <AlanHaggai> _deb_ : 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:53] <hume> cafuego, sorry, not that good at scripts. how do I echo it in?
[03:53] <AlanHaggai> that's what I get :(
[03:53] <cafuego> mista: Yeah, "don't".
[03:53] <apokryphos> _lemsx1_: yes, skipping a version in a dist-upgrade is explicitly not supported.
[03:53] <lupine_85> !info libgl-mesa-glx edgy
[03:53] <ubotu> Package libgl-mesa-glx does not exist in edgy
[03:53] <nashnash> eeh someone knows if the printer (deskjet) and my scanner (hp scanjet) will work @ ubuntu?
[03:53] <lupine_85> !info libgl1-mesa-glx edgy
[03:53] <ubotu> libgl1-mesa-glx: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 524 kB
[03:54] <hume> cafuego, cryptsetup <stuff> << zenity <stuff>?
[03:54] <dabaR> AlanHaggai: have you ever edited your sources.list?
[03:54] <AlanHaggai> no
[03:54] <lupine_85> niksavel: try installing that package directly
[03:54] <_lemsx1_> apokryphos: gotcha
[03:54] <niksavel> what does that mean?
[03:54] <mista> dont?
[03:54] <lupine_85> means it's there :)
[03:54] <luki> Geez I did an upgrade and now my system drops me into console ...
[03:54] <MattJ> nashnash, Your Deskjet certainly should
[03:54] <niksavel> how?
[03:54] <luki> after reboot
[03:54] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx
[03:54] <luki> does anyone have idea how to fix that easily ?  please
[03:54] <lupine_85> worst-case scenario, you'll find out *why* it's not updating
[03:54] <lupine_85> luki: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:54] <dooglus> hi guys.  I just tried using apt-get to update to edgy, but it complains that problems were encourtered while processing acpid and acpi-support.  What can I do?
[03:54] <MattJ> nashnash, HP printers work well in Ubuntu. I haven't tried my scanner yet
[03:55] <nashnash> thanks
[03:55] <cafuego> hume: $PASSWORD=$(zenity --entry --title Password --text "Please enter your password:")
[03:55] <nashnash> ;)
[03:55] <cafuego> hume: Then echo"$PASSWORD" | command that reads the password off stdin.
[03:55] <MarcN> nashnash: I have an hp 1515(?) printer/scanner/copier and works fine for scanning, printing
[03:55] <hume> cafuego, thanks, great!!
[03:55] <AlanHaggai> nothing is working for me to update to 6.10 :(
[03:55] <soundray> dooglus: re-run apt-get dist-upgrade, then try apt-get -f install
[03:56] <lupine_85> don't forget to sudo apt-get update as well...
[03:56] <dabaR> AlanHaggai: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, then post the file to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:56] <nashnash> MarcN , and which program do u use for scanning ?
[03:56] <yoshiznit123> when will edgy get to all the mirrors? i'd rather download from gulus.usherbrooke cause i can get 4 Mb/s
[03:56] <_lemsx1_> AlanHaggai: then backup and re-install from CD
[03:56] <cafuego> mista: nforce softraid is proprietary.
[03:56] <nikin> alan: make a fresh install
[03:56] <luki> lupine_85: Thanks it is doing that now
[03:56] <nikin> thats allways the best :D
[03:56] <dabaR> dooglus: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:56] <mario__> apokryphos: thanks!
[03:56] <MarcN> nashnash: there are a few -- kooka, xscan, etc
[03:56] <det> Is there any way to use the mplayer mozilla plug-in instead of the totem one? Removing totem-mozilla forces me to remove ubuntu-desktop, which I don't want to do.
[03:56] <apokryphos> np
[03:56] <cafuego> mista: The in-kernel softraid driver is 1) faster 2) more reliable
[03:57] <eva> reiki_work thanks alot do you know how to install acrobat reader
[03:57] <nashnash> ah, nice. currently @ windows i use HP Imaging & editing \ HP Director - its own progs of the scanner, i got it with my cd
[03:57] <kuja> I want to put the Ubuntu repository of i386 packages on my iPod so I can upgrade at home. What's the easy way?
[03:57] <luki> lupine_85: Okey I got that installed what now ?
[03:57] <nashnash> i hoped there is the same for linux
[03:57] <ehird> soundray: well it installed, thank you
[03:57] <dabaR> det: well, to remove the totem plugin for mozilla, you will have to remove ubuntu-desktop,, which is not a big deal, but remember to put it back on when upgrading to a new version.
[03:57] <kuja> I want all i386 packages from main, multiverse, restricted, and universe. How can I do this?
[03:57] <yoshiznit123> kuja, do you have to use an ipod? a cd or dvd would work a lot easier
[03:57] <lupine_85> luki: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm reload
[03:57] <soundray> det: this was discussed here yesterday. Apparently the trick is to touch the mozilla *.so files, then they'll be used in preference.
[03:58] <det> dabaR, I'd prefer to keep them both installed and then set a precedence.
[03:58] <kuja> yoshiznit123: Well, if it were a CD, then I could create an image and put it on my iPod, take it home, and mount it.
[03:58] <nikin> kuja: sodo apt-get install *
[03:58] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28434/
[03:58] <det> soundray, thanks!
[03:58] <kuja> nikin: The box with remote capabilities is a Windows box.
[03:58] <dabaR> kuja: download the iso to the ipod, then install from the iso
[03:58] <luki> lupine_85: I acctualy restarted machine :/ - sorry I will give it a try in a sec
[03:58] <soundray> ehird: I'm glad. Did you find what the snag was?
[03:58] <kuja> dabaR: The ISO doesn't have the other pools like multivers and universe
[03:58] <AlanHaggai>  _deb_  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28435/
[03:58] <niksavel> lupine_85: thanks that helped, I only have one prob... kubuntu-desktop wont install because ktorrent is not installed, trying to install it manually gives:
[03:58] <Kawaii-Panda> oh, man. flash 9 doesnt seem to work on my 64-bit firefox 2 :(
[03:58] <det> soundray, touch the mplayer mozilla files, I assume?
[03:59] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: Nope.
[03:59] <dabaR> kuja: yes, it does not.
[03:59] <ehird> soundray: nope... it just worked
[03:59] <kuja> dabaR: I want them.
[03:59] <soundray> det: yes
[03:59] <pyranha> why is it if I try to remove ubuntu-sounds it wants to remove gdm and if I want to remove alsa it wants to remove ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-base?
[03:59] <niksavel>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/config.kcfg/ktsearchplugin.kcfg', which is also in package ktorrent-2.0
[03:59] <ehird> maybe because i deleted and readded the linux partition with ubuntu
[03:59] <dooglus> soundray, dabaR: I tried all 3 of your suggestions.  they all failed.  here's a log: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/apt-get.txt
[03:59] <Kawaii-Panda> anyway, im testing something called simple64 i found on the ubuntuforums.
[03:59] <pyranha> these are not dependencies in other distros
[03:59] <ole> anyone have a fast link to > xubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso <
[03:59] <soundray> ehird: well stranger things have happened...
[03:59] <Kawaii-Panda> i hope it helps my situation.
[03:59] <lupine_85> niksavel: then remove ktorrent-2.0
[03:59] <det> soundray, did the trick, thanks
[03:59] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: If you want flash, just run 32bit Linux. Much easier, and stuff "just works".
[03:59] <luki> lupine_85: Okey I did that - now when I do /etc/init.d/gdm restart he fails to start :(
[03:59] <nashnash> eeh MarcN , kooka looks nice. http://www.tuxmachines.org/gallery/albums/pclos92f/kooka.jpg
[03:59] <Xzanron> /topic
[04:00] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: it's says dapper . u need to have edgy repositories in that .  check here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28434/
[04:00] <cafuego> (and no, it's not half as fast ;-)
[04:00] <lupine_85> luki: error message?
[04:00] <AlanHaggai> I see _deb_
[04:00] <dabaR> kuja: well, you will have to download them by hand then. You are not gonna download all of universe and multivers. you can find out what packages you have installd with sudo dpkg -l at home, and then download newest versions of all your packages at packages.ubuntu.com
[04:00] <AlanHaggai> thanks :) will try that
[04:00] <lupine_85> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:00] <mista> ok i dl 6.06Live CD, and i a AMD 3200+ 939 should i update the ker?
[04:00] <niksavel> lupine_85:  how?
[04:00] <Kawaii-Panda> cafuego: but that would be thinking backwards, if everyone used 32-bit, 64bit computing would never be propelled,
[04:00] <kuja> dabaR: That's a lot of packages to download by hand, even if I *knew* what needed to be upgraded.
[04:00] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: Just replace the source.list with the one you see in the pastbin .
[04:00] <ole> anyone have a fast link to > xubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso < ? msg me.
[04:00] <ehird> still can't get my net working with it :/
[04:00] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get remove ktorrent-2.0
[04:01] <Kawaii-Panda> think about the next generation :-$
[04:01] <niksavel> lupine_85:  no work
[04:01] <AlanHaggai> ok _deb_ done :)
[04:01] <_lemsx1_> ole: use torrent link
[04:01] <lupine_85> then sudo dpkg -r ktorrent-2.0
[04:01] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: Well, _you_ want to run 32bit stuff.
[04:01] <kuja> I have a script that can download all i386 packages from all pools at archive.ubuntu.com, but that would take a long time, even with threads.
[04:01] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: the do a sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get upgrade .
[04:01] <soundray> dooglus: find out why the start of acpid fails. Watch the output from 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' while you do a '/etc/init.d/acpid start'
[04:01] <kuja> I was wondering if there was an image, maybe.
[04:01] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: You can either shoot yourself in the foot or not.
[04:01] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: the check if u can upgrade
[04:01] <luki> lupine_85: Nothing major in a logs ... :(
[04:01] <yoshiznit123> kuja, i think there's a dvd of main
[04:01] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: I share a homedir between a 32bit install and a 64bit install.
[04:01] <AlanHaggai> ok _deb_ thank you very much for the help :)
[04:01] <eva> a good cd player for ubuntu that can play cd and dvd
[04:01] <lupine_85> there's going to be something...
[04:01] <dabaR> kuja: no
[04:01] <luki> lupine_85: nothing unusual I suppose
[04:01] <luki> checking ...
[04:01] <nikin> hy eva
[04:02] <lupine_85> ...in the lack of any good error messages, try a reboot
[04:02] <kuja> yoshiznit123: Main is small enough I can just grab it with my script in no time :(
[04:02] <nikin> did you managge the acrorread stuff?
[04:02] <luki> trying now
[04:02] <niksavel> lupine_85:  that worked, thanks a bunch m8!  you really helped me out
[04:02] <acuster> Hey all, is there a way to install all the packages needed to compile a package?
[04:02] <kuja> I guess I'll just have to rely on this script then, to grab all pools
[04:02] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: u r w :)
[04:02] <lupine_85> acuster: apt-get build-dep <package>
[04:02] <Kawaii-Panda> hmmm... i should consider dual-booting too though. anyway, is watching flash movies in your 64-bit system too much to ask?
[04:02] <lupine_85> np
[04:02] <soundray> acuster: apt-get build-depends
[04:02] <acuster> thanks lupine_85
[04:02] <lupine_85> Kawaii-Panda: no, check the forum
[04:02] <thoreauputic> acuster:  apt-get build-dep
[04:02] <lupine_85> it's perfectly possible
[04:02] <Kawaii-Panda> * quadruple booting *
[04:02] <soundray> acuster: oops, don't listen to me
[04:02] <Kawaii-Panda> k.
[04:02] <dooglus> soundray: syslog shows "Oct 26 16:02:27 chrislap kernel: [17183197.164000]  ibm_acpi: ec object not found"
[04:02] <cafuego> Kawaii-Panda: Ask the owners of the proprietary technology that is failing you >;-)
[04:02] <nikin> Kawaii: ask macromedia
[04:02] <nikin> :D
[04:02] <mjr> Kawaii-Panda, no, but installing and using the proprietary flash plugin will require tweaking on your part
[04:03] <eva> nikin no i did not get it right
[04:03] <lupine_85> it'll become even easier if Macromedia get round to releasing an x86_64 bit plugin
[04:03] <LeeJunFan> anyone know why screen "windowlist" might not be working?
[04:03] <nikin> eva: get it from acrobat.com
[04:03] <Kawaii-Panda> hmm... i just read on the adobe website that they are developing flash 8.5 for 64-bit linux
[04:03] <dooglus> soundray: maybe if I reboot into the new kernel it'll work?
[04:03] <cafuego> It's become even easier if they GPLed the plugin.
[04:03] <nikin> the tar.gz version
[04:03] <soundray> dooglus: okay, this is probably because you aren't running the new kernel yet.
[04:03] <Kawaii-Panda> thats odd, isnt flash 9 beta out already?
[04:03] <soundray> dooglus: no, hold on...
[04:03] <luki> Just found that : (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable - nothing else
[04:03] <mjr> cafuego, indeed
[04:03] <kuja> Apparently apt-zip is pretty useless on Windows too
[04:03] <lupine_85> ok, that's the problem...
[04:03] <nikin> it has an easy to use installscript
[04:03] <nikin> and it works
[04:03] <luki> that might be a reason ?
[04:03] <lupine_85> ...turn off AIGLX ?
[04:03] <eva> nikin i did get the file from acrobat.com
[04:04] <lupine_85> or enable the dri module
[04:04] <mandelum> coul you update from breezy to edgy whitout a cd only net, floppy, usb and old an bios?
[04:04] <dooglus> soundray: I updated just a few weeks ago, so I'm probably running quite a recent edgy kernel
[04:04] <lupine_85> (or disable it if it is enableD)
[04:04] <nikin> eva: you could not unpack it?
[04:04] <bowman> heya. running 6.06.1 on a sever; where do I get kernel sources? I'm unable to find an appropriate package with apt
[04:04] <bowman> s/sever/server/g
[04:04] <luki> how to turn it off ?  I got DRI enabled - so maybe thats an issue with my graphics card
[04:04] <cafuego> eva: acroread is packaged in multiverse, enable and use apt-get install.
[04:04] <lupine_85> it could also just be that the new video drivers/kernel modules haven't been loaded up yet
[04:04] <dooglus> soundray: uname -r tells me "2.6.17-10-generic"
[04:04] <dabaR> mandelum: upgrade to dapper first.
[04:04] <lupine_85> e.g. a restart would work
[04:04] <Chousuke> bowman: linux-source
[04:04] <soundray> dooglus: other packages may still be in limbo. Better to force a success of the /var/lib/dpkg/info/acpid.postinst script by inserting 'exit 0' as the second line
[04:04] <AlanHaggai> what to do to boot directly to tty?
[04:04] <_deb_> mandelum: sure. just add edgy repository and do a upgrade.
[04:04] <cafuego> bowman: linux-source-VERSION
[04:04] <luki> lupine_85: I did restar - nothing has changed
[04:04] <_lemsx1_> mandelum: sure. download all the new packages locally first. then use your floppy to boot to the installation
[04:05] <dabaR> mandelum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[04:05] <bowman> --thanks--
[04:05] <dooglus> soundray: isn't that an ugly hack?
[04:05] <lupine_85> ah. try toggling your dri module's status, then
[04:05] <soundray> dooglus: oh, so you already have rebooted. My previous line still applies. Force the success of the acpid install and complete your installation.
[04:05] <eva> nikin i did unpack it what do i do then
[04:05] <soundray> dooglus: of course. Did you expect a clean solution on IRC?
[04:05] <mandelum> so I should go Breezy - dapper - edgy
[04:05] <soundray> :)
[04:05] <nikin> start the install program.. INSTALL
[04:05] <apokryphos> mandelum: yes
[04:05] <_lemsx1_> mandelum: ah, sorry. I assumed your system could not do "upgrade" by itself
[04:06] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: how do you try to get the window list?
[04:06] <W_McL> AlanHaggai: go into the grub menu (e.g. by hitting esc) and select a "recovery mode" kernel
[04:06] <cafuego> eva: acroread is packaged in multiverse, enable and use apt-get install.
[04:06] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, then check your video drivers are still installed; maybe try switching to the vesa driver temporarily; you could also try disabling AIGLX (not sure how)
[04:06] <sneikas> Can you update ubuntu system to the new one, just released?
[04:06] <nikin> open a console
[04:06] <cafuego> eva: There is no need to mess about with downloaded tarballs.
[04:06] <AlanHaggai> thanks W_McL
[04:06] <nikin> cd to the dir you extracted the stuff to
[04:06] <W_McL> AlanHaggai: the system wil boot into a root console
[04:06] <raghu206> how to make beagle to search gaim IM cache ..?
[04:06] <mandelum> apokryphos: thanks!
[04:06] <_deb_> sneikas: sure.
[04:06] <dabaR> sneikas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[04:06] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone. What command can I use to unlock my packaging system? Reboot didn't help.
[04:06] <AlanHaggai> can I get to the GUI from that?
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: I've got a remote setup to use screen as deflogin, in .screenrc for the user I have added windowlist -b, no luck.
[04:07] <cafuego> Zoohouse: remove the lock file.
[04:07] <nikin> sudo bash
[04:07] <ole> the torrent for xubuntu is slow.
[04:07] <nikin> ./install
[04:07] <sneikas> _deb_, what's the difference between fresh and updated?
[04:07] <ole> hasnt start downloaded yet.
[04:07] <apokryphos> nikin: no, to get into a root shell the recommended method is sudo -i
[04:07] <Zoohouse> cafuego: where is this file located?
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: all the other options in .screenrc are working, so I know it's parsing it.
[04:07] <soundray> dooglus: it's not a very risky hack in any case. But to get around what is clearly a bug, you sometimes have to take unusual measures.
[04:07] <nikin> and answer yes to the default stuff
[04:07] <Zoohouse> cafuego: or what is it called
[04:07] <_lemsx1_> Zoohouse: the lock file is in /var/cache/apt or so
[04:07] <cafuego> nikin: Please, don't make people do that for software that's IN ubuntu already.
[04:07] <Zoohouse> Thanks
[04:07] <ehird> will Kubuntu Edgy include build-essentials etc.? ;)
[04:07] <dooglus> soundray: it's worked anyway.  thanks.
[04:07] <nikin> apokryphos: okok, sorry :D
[04:08] <apokryphos> ehird: I think it's on the disk, but not installed by default
[04:08] <sneikas> What's the difference between fresh install of new Ubuntu and updated?
[04:08] <cafuego> nikin: eva can use apt-get install acroread after enabling multiverse.
[04:08] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: i get my window list with a appropriate hardstatus definition
[04:08] <dooglus> soundray: I was thinking it might be better to fix it so it works for everyone, not just me...
[04:08] <ole> does anyone have xubuntu 6.10 with a fast link?
[04:08] <ehird> apokryphos: looks like i'll be manually installing kde then
[04:08] <ole> or an url.
[04:08] <sneikas> What's the difference between fresh install of new Ubuntu and updated?
[04:08] <dooglus> ole: I expect the torrent is very fast
[04:08] <nikin> cafuego: there where problems with the ubuntu version ...
[04:08] <apokryphos> ehird: why?
[04:08] <ehird> sneikas: ones updated, the other isn't
[04:08] <soundray> dooglus: when you've finished the install, undo the change to the postinst script and try to reproduce the error. If you can, report it.
[04:08] <reiki_work> ok... too much activity here for me to keep open while at work.  I'll upgrade from home later this weekend :)
[04:08] <ehird> apokryphos: because i have to do ltos of compiling to get my modem to work
[04:08] <cafuego> nikin: such as?
[04:08] <axisys> it seems impossible to remove lighttpd pkg on edgy eft http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qNfFOb11.html
[04:08] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: hrm, maybe it's something to do with it being the deflogin.
[04:08] <sneikas> ehird, ehich way is better?
[04:08] <ehird> thus i can't just apt-get build-essentials etc
[04:09] <apokryphos> ehird: well, if it's on the CD all you have to do is exactly that, yes.
[04:09] <dooglus> soundray: I've removed my change.  what should I run to see if I can reproduce it?
[04:09] <ehird> sneikas: do you want to upgrade your system or install it from scratch? :p
[04:09] <schyffe> I have an amd64 cpu, if I install ubuntu-amd64, will I be able to run all programs, or do I need to find specific 64-bit programs?
[04:09] <soundray> dooglus: it certainly would be. But it's better to do that once you've become unstuck.
[04:09] <soundray> dooglus: 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install acpid'
[04:09] <axisys> need help to remove lighttpd http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qNfFOb11.html
[04:09] <ehird> apokryphos: it needed more than build-essentials
[04:09] <_deb_> sneikas: Installing a fresh means installing Ubuntu edgy and upgrading means upgrading from a previos version to edgy
[04:09] <sneikas> i dont see difference, cuz i just installed old ubuntu
[04:09] <apokryphos> ehird: what else does it need?
[04:09] <AlanHaggai> how to forcibly quit an application?
[04:09] <nikin> the repo didnt work... but it wasnt my problem... bytheway if you are that much cooler than me, which can hapen... tell you what to do
[04:09] <soundray> dooglus: ideally after you've completed your remaining upgrades
[04:09] <cafuego> schyffe: Most stuff will run, but you will have issues with java applets, flash and video codecs.
[04:09] <_deb_> sneikas: u can upgrade it .
[04:09] <pixelPOET> AlanHaggai, "killall [appname]
[04:09] <cafuego> nikin: <heh>
[04:10] <dabaR> sneikas: if you upgrade, your installation is intact in terms of apps you have for use, and if you reinstall, that means you lose all your installaed programs.
[04:10] <schyffe> allright, then I'll install the x86
[04:10] <sneikas> _deb_, any minuses what's wrong with upgrading?
[04:10] <dooglus> soundray: there were only 3 upgrades to do: 2 acpid ones and ubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: i always start screen by hand
[04:10] <cafuego> eva: Never mind the tarball, here is what you do.
[04:10] <pixelPOET> AlanHaggai, or you can use "ps -aux | grep appname" and then "kill -9 [process number] "
[04:10] <nikin> cafuego: i didnt sleep for about 50 hours
[04:10] <dooglus> soundray: there are 36 packages 'kept back' - is that to be expected?
[04:10] <_deb_> sneikas: just add the edgy repository and do sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get upgrade .
[04:10] <sneikas> ok
[04:10] <AlanHaggai> ok pixelPOET. trying now
[04:10] <sneikas> :)
[04:10] <sneikas> thanks
[04:10] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: wanna have my .screenrc? just for comparing to yours
[04:10] <cafuego> eva: Download http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/dapper-seveas/extras/acroread_7.0.8-0.0_i386.deb
[04:10] <onurx> does new ubuntu(6.10) boot faster?
[04:10] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: yeah, this account I want to be able to pop in and see what's going on and also provide support and allow them to see what I'm doing.
[04:11] <LjL> onurx: yes
[04:11] <AlanHaggai> it's the Software Updates that has hung
[04:11] <nikin> so i think i go...
[04:11] <cafuego> eva: That's a completely packaged latest version; manageable by way of the package system.
[04:11] <AlanHaggai> how to kill that?
[04:11] <soundray> dooglus: that should go away if you run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install' a couple more times.
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: so I want to make sure they are logged into screen all the time, so I can attach
[04:11] <ehird> apokryphos: i don't know, but i know ubuntu can compile it and kubuntu can't ;)
[04:11] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: okay
[04:11] <eva> nikin after sudo bash i get this Desktop/AdobeReader# ./install
[04:11] <soundray> dooglus: if it doesn't, look at the individual packages that are held and decide whether you want to upgrade them individually
[04:11] <cafuego> eva: nooo!
[04:11] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:28087/
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: thanks.
[04:11] <dabaR> AlanHaggai: killall update-manager
[04:11] <apokryphos> eva: you should be using sudo -i for an ubuntu root shell
[04:11] <axisys> AlanHaggai: may want to expand .. it may be waiting for an answer.. i thought so too
[04:12] <nikin> eva: that was what i suggested
[04:12] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: got the file?
[04:12] <AlanHaggai> yes. Worked pixelPOET :)
[04:12] <_deb_> AlanHaggai: kill the upgrade process .
[04:12] <AlanHaggai> thanks
[04:12] <Turias> hello.  so im trying to upgrade my machine at home by sshing in and running 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' as mentioned in the release notes, but all thats telling me is that i have 0 packages to upgrade.  any ideas?
[04:12] <onurx> LjL:I use 6.06, is it good to upgrade or install new one?
[04:12] <AlanHaggai> thanks _deb_
[04:12] <cafuego> eva: you will _not_ be able to cleanly uninstall or upgrade it if you do that.
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: yes. thanks.
[04:13] <axisys> how do i uninstall lighttpd .. its stuck here http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qNfFOb11.html (sorry about repeat question)
[04:13] <LjL> onurx: upgrading should be fine. it's your choice though
[04:13] <dabaR> Turias: did you change your sources.list?
[04:13] <_deb_> Turias: do u have edgy repositories added top sources.list ?
[04:13] <odila> hola
[04:13] <odila> hola
[04:13] <Turias> no.  im just following the instructions on the upgrade page.  is there a command to do that from the terminal or do i have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually?
[04:13] <Kawaii-Panda> damned simple64, not detecting that i use 64-bit firefox.
[04:13] <onurx> LjL:I want faster boot , this is just I want, if I have this by upgrade than ok
[04:13] <odila> como estas edu
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> rt2570: I'm guessing it's a built in safety when screen is used as login shell to have it not leave it sitting at a menu for sake of not breaking scripts or something.
[04:14] <dabaR> axisys: try sudo invoke-rc.d lighttpd stop
[04:14] <oleg> hi peeps
[04:14] <dabaR> !ES
[04:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:14] <_deb_> Turias: follow this -->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[04:14] <pyranha> the ubuntu dependency tree is WHACKED!
[04:14] <asdx|work> ubuntu wont shipit free cds anymore?
[04:14] <pyranha> completely whacked
[04:14] <axisys> dabaR: invoke-rc.d: initscript lighttpd, action "stop" failed
[04:14] <nata> hola como estais
[04:14] <dabaR> asdx|work: yes, dapper is still being shipped
[04:14] <rt2570> LeeJunFan: yeah, maybe
[04:14] <cafuego> pyranha: Go fix it, don't just complain.
[04:14] <nata>  eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[04:14] <_deb_> asdx|work: is it true ?
[04:14] <soundray> pyranha: don't jump to conclusions
[04:14] <LookTJ> brb doing fresh install of edgy
[04:14] <asdx|work> dabaR: and edgy?
[04:14] <Turias> _deb_: I'll take a look at that.  thanks
[04:14] <Dimensions> Hiya guys ... can some one tell me ... i have installed mysql , php and apache ... when i try to run mysql it says ......... Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[04:14] <_deb_> asdx|work: they rejected my last order :(
[04:15] <dabaR> asdx|work: not edgy.
[04:15] <cafuego> Dimensions: tip; the mysql server isn't running.
[04:15] <Dimensions> and therz no mysqld.sock ...
[04:15] <asdx|work> too bad, that was a nice feature... :/
[04:15] <dabaR> Dimensions: sudo invoke-rc.d mysql start
[04:15] <LjL> onurx, upgrading will give you all the benefits of edgy, including faster boot. however, if you have a particularly slow boot due to daemons that are started up at boottime (which you may have installed from packages), those will stay, and would have to be removed using APT if they are not needed.
[04:15] <soundray> Dimensions: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start'
[04:15] <Dimensions> cafuego: how do u run it ?
[04:15] <cafuego> ^^
[04:15] <rt2570> axisys: you could also try thttpd
[04:15] <pyranha> maybe I should try edgy before I condemn ubuntu to the depths of almost unusable
[04:15] <dabaR> asdx|work: you can order dapper, and not edgy cds.
[04:15] <elkbuntu> asdx|work, shipit will be continuing with the dapper cds to make the most of the extended life and better stability
[04:16] <dabaR> pyranha: stop flaming
[04:16] <dooglus> soundray: here's what happened when I ran your commands: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/apt-get-2.txt (ie. pretty much nothing - the same packages are 'held')
[04:16] <soundray> pyranha: maybe you should report your problem and ask for help
[04:16] <cafuego> dabaR: He's not. That's trolling.
[04:16] <dabaR> cafuego: hehe, it's a matter of degree
[04:17] <pyranha> I am doing neither....
[04:17] <cafuego> pyranha: If you hate it, remove it and go back to what you were using before.
[04:17] <dabaR> pyranha: it is in the eye of the beholder, so yes, you are
[04:17] <soundray> pyranha: then you're in the wrong channel.
[04:17] <pyranha> true
[04:17] <cafuego> Complaining about it here is only going to cause grief and annoyance. Not useful.
[04:18] <luki> lupine_85: Nothing helps
[04:18] <ScreaminIke> lets say i have a partition which is... less that admirably maintained. as a result, it gets checked at EVERY boot.  to be honest, it's not that important to me. if the partition starts giving me issues, i'll e2fsck it... until then, though... is there a way to prevent checking of anything but the root partition at boot?
[04:18] <kuja> Anyone know of a debmirror like tool for Windows?
[04:18] <eduardo> asdfghjklz<xcvbnm,.-wertyuioprffgghhjjhjkjkkll
[04:19] <jbroome> ScreaminIke: you set that it /etc/fstab
[04:19] <dabaR> kuja: does google?
[04:19] <soundray> ScreaminIke: why not e2fsck now and be done with it?
[04:19] <GTAi> afternoon everyone.
[04:19] <cafuego> kuja: Like, a tool to mirror a windows repository?
[04:19] <kuja> dabaR: There was one link, but it's dead. Everything else, nothing knows.
[04:19] <ppd> hello. is it just for me that the gnome wastebin in the panel appears always empty not caring whether it's full or not?
[04:19] <ppd> on edgy
[04:19] <Turias> so i keep reading about apt-get vs aptitude, but i havent really found any helpful pages.  can anyone point me to some place that talks about the differences (if there are any) of using each of them?
[04:19] <kuja> cafuego: No, a tool on Windows which can mirror an Ubuntu repository.
[04:20] <yoshiznit123> screaminmike, change /etc/fstab, the last column i think sets whether to check on boot or not
[04:20] <soundray> Turias: aptitude is a curses-based frontend to apt-get. Nothing more, nothing less.
[04:20] <cafuego> kuja: debmirror probably runs fine in cygwin.
[04:20] <kuja> soundray: Doesn't have to be used that way though.
[04:20] <Frederick> folks can I update my kubuntu to edgy partially I mean just some given packages?
[04:20] <Turias> soundray: ok, thanks.  so there is absolutely no difference to running 'aptitude upgrade' and 'apt-get upgrade'?
[04:20] <nata> hola
[04:20] <kuja> cafuego: I guess I'll try to build it in cygwin
[04:20] <soundray> kuja: okay, tell Turias about it.
[04:20] <dabaR> soundray: nice technological difference...that is not a different in usability, and one exists.
[04:21] <cafuego> kuja: if not, rsycn sure does.
[04:21] <cafuego> kuja: ... and/or winrsync.
[04:21] <jrib> Turias: aptitude handles remembers what dependencies get installed for packages you install with it and will remove them if you no longer need it.  Also, aptitude's default behavior is to install recommended packages.  And aptitude has an ncurses interface (as well as straight command line)
[04:21] <jrib> Turias: s/handles//
[04:21] <kuja> cafuego: Yeah, but what I really want out of debmirror is the features of downloading an entire repository based on arch and section
[04:21] <kuja> The official CD/DVD only has main/restricted, where I may want multiverse/universe
[04:21] <ScreaminIke> i'm not sure that e2fsck would actually fix it, and i don't want to go through the hassle
[04:21] <cafuego> kuja: I'm 100% sure it runs in Ubuntu under vmware on Windows ;-)
[04:21] <kuja> I'll try building debmirror though, on cygwin
[04:22] <eva> thanks all now it is working
[04:22] <kuja> cafuego: It'd take time just to grab the ubuntu ISO, then grab the repository
[04:22] <kuja> :(
[04:22] <Turias> jrib: hmm. that makes sense.  so it seems like I should usually use aptitude over apt-get when performing any installs of packages with dependencies
[04:22] <cafuego> tue
[04:22] <kuja> I should really carry around vmware and ubuntu on my iPod
[04:22] <kuja> I don't trust CD's anymore... scratch to easily for me... I'm not caring of them
[04:23] <xica-hip> hola
[04:23] <ehird> kuja: you can boot from your ipod?:p
[04:23] <xica-hip> como esta todo el mundo
[04:23] <jrib> Turias: yes, well that is what I always do.  Only time I install with apt-get is if aptitude makes some crazy suggestion to resolve problems, but it always shows you what it wants to do beforehand
[04:23] <elkbuntu> !es | xica-hip
[04:23] <ubotu> xica-hip: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:23] <kuja> ehird: I wouild, if I could do that without screwing up Apple's firmware
[04:23] <beasty> servessa!
[04:23] <kuja> Partition-wise
[04:23] <soundray> ScreaminIke: 'sudo touch /fastboot'. But this is not recommended. It's the kind of trick that got you into the mess with that permanently dirty filesystem. Just run e2fsck -y -- no hassle.
[04:23] <ehird> kuja: you know that itunes can restore your ipods firmware? :)
[04:23] <Turias> jrib: great.  thanks for your help.
[04:23] <ehird> just keep your music backed up ;)
[04:23] <kuja> ehird: But I don't want to have to do that all the time :)
[04:24] <kuja> Everything seems to be a hassle
[04:24] <ehird> kuja: try rockbox ;) http://rockbox.org
[04:24] <kuja> I should've gotten the 80GB iPod :P
[04:24] <ehird> much nicer than apple's firmware
[04:24] <ScreaminIke> it's given me a hassle on this partition before...
[04:24] <mandelum> how do I check for wifi access points in breezy?
[04:24] <soundray> ScreaminIke: in that case, consider buying a new hard disk.
[04:24] <kuja> ehird: How is it "nicer"?
[04:25] <Dimensions> thanks guys ... but now when i try to login into mysql console ... by typing mysqladmin -u root ... it doesn't login rather shows long description ... when i change user to root and then type mysqladmin -u root mypassword it says : : connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[04:25] <ScreaminIke> i'm a poor college kid. no $$. i will though. hopefully @ xmas time
[04:25] <asdx|work> is possible to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[04:25] <ehird> kuja: gapless playback, open source (so you could make it bootable), customizable interface, you can browse via directory tree, replaygain, lots more formats, ...
[04:25] <LjL> !upgrade | asdx|work
[04:25] <ubotu> asdx|work: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:25] <dooglus> asdx|work: see the URL in the topic.  (short answer: "yes")
[04:25] <ScreaminIke> asdx|work: yes. sudo update-manager -d -c
[04:25] <Bitt> [asdx|work]  yes
[04:25] <jrib> Turias: another thing I forgot was aptitude's search is much more powerful than apt-cache search.  Checkout /usr/share/doc/aptitude, there is a page there with all the details about the search
[04:25] <kuja> asdx|work: I guess you could change your sources.list to point to edgy repositories, run an apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:25] <Frederick> dooglus: do I have to update all packages at once?
[04:26] <CarinArr> update-manager -c works now
[04:26] <Turias> jrib: will do.  thanks.
[04:26] <LjL> ScreaminIke: no. the "-d" is only needed for upgrading to unstable versions
[04:26] <dooglus> Frederick: no.  you can install one at a time if you have enough patience.
[04:26] <kuja> ehird: I like iPod Linux, but it's just not mature enough yet... I really wanted to use it to play games on my iPod. I'll give Rockbox a try
[04:26] <kuja> Thanks
[04:26] <t0taln00b> hi all
[04:26] <chplanet_> Where do you start when you want to set up a software raid 1 and that you already have a HD with ubuntu dapper installed on it?
[04:26] <Frederick> dooglus: I mean I don't want a break my ubuntu install
[04:26] <jrib> Turias: np
[04:26] <t0taln00b> howdy :)
[04:26] <dooglus> Frederick: I'd recommend letting apt-get do its thing though
[04:26] <Vuen> what's up #ubuntu, what would be a good fully-featured torrent client for kubuntu? specifically i'm looking for magnet support, dht support, that sort of thing
[04:26] <ScreaminIke> oh. i used it when i updated my server last night. good to know.
[04:26] <deonla> thefish i would like to thank you for all the help -- fixed my problem, it was the dns ip that was wrong.
[04:26] <nata-hip> por ke todo me sale en ingles tio
[04:26] <Frederick> dooglus: all i want is the new kernel,
[04:27] <LjL> !es | nata-hip
[04:27] <ubotu> nata-hip: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:27] <dooglus> Vuen: azureus is the only fully-featured torrent client for linux I think
[04:27] <soundray> kuja, ehird: please ask yourselves whether the rockbox/ipod discussion is on-topic. There's always #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:27] <dooglus> Frederick: that's probably not recommended.
[04:27] <Vuen> i've been using azureus, but it's incredibly slow in java and vfat :(
[04:27] <Frederick> Vuen: Ktorrent
[04:27] <Frederick> dooglus: why?
[04:27] <Vuen> Frederick: ktorrent doesn't have any of those features
[04:27] <ScreaminIke> oh... editing my fstab... do i set the last column for the above mentioned drive to "0"?
[04:27] <Vuen> it has things like file prioritization... but as far as connectivity goes, it's nothing like azureus
[04:27] <Vuen> so am i stuck with azureus? :(
[04:27] <dooglus> Vuen: I use it with vfat and it's fine.  did you set the 'I'm using VFAT' checkbox?
[04:27] <Vuen> yes
[04:27] <Frederick> dooglus: can't I apt-get install the new kernel and apt handles the deps?
[04:27] <soundray> Frederick: the new kernel depends on all sorts of userspace stuff as well. udev, libc... don't know what. Do a full upgrade.
[04:28] <Vuen> it works with vfat fine, it's just slow
[04:28] <Vuen> really slow
[04:28] <Frederick> soundray: sure but I tought that if I update it the deps would be handled by apt
[04:28] <dooglus> Vuen: it's not slow with vfat for me.  and if you use the console interface you'll find it's faster (if memory is what's constraining you)
[04:29] <dooglus> Vuen: how slow is slow?  I get around 400 or 500KB/s
[04:29] <t0taln00b> heh it's so much pleasure that ubuntu edgy finally released :)
[04:29] <Vuen> console interface? that's pretty nifty
[04:29] <ScreaminIke> or... could someone hold my hand with e2fsck?
[04:29] <Vuen> it's not the speeds that are slow
[04:29] <Vuen> it's the interface
[04:29] <Vuen> and doing thinks like rechecking a torrent...
[04:29] <Vuen> for some reason azureus doesn't shut down nicely when i log out
[04:29] <soundray> Frederick: yes, they would be. But since you then have a hybrid system between dapper and edgy, there is no guarantee that it'll work. What's the problem with upgrading all the way?
[04:29] <rt2570> ScreaminIke: can you unmount the partition in question while running the system?
[04:29] <davidwinter> is anyone having issues with Edgy + AMD64?
[04:29] <Vuen> so when i log back in, it has to always recheck the torrent
[04:29] <dooglus> Vuen: right.  the interface gets slow when the process gets bigger than available RAM.  it is very bloated.
[04:30] <elkbuntu> t0taln00b, what do you mean finally? it released on time.
[04:30] <Vuen> and for a torrent of even a couple gigs, it completely stalls my machine for several minutes
[04:30] <NET||abuse> haha, this is weird, i've got twinview working, i have the screen physical layout right, windows maximize just to the one screen at a time, but.....
[04:30] <davidwinter> X won't start for me (I was expecting this) but I don't even get the text login screen appear. Just a blank screen with an underscore blinking...
[04:30] <Vuen> urgh
[04:30] <NET||abuse> the menu and task bar are on the wrong screen,
[04:30] <CarinArr> elkbuntu, mebbies he feels it's finally because he's been looking forward to it THAT much
[04:30] <dooglus> Vuen: I think you'll find it's not rechecking the whole torrent is it?  It's just checking the parts it downloaded last time but didn't get around to checking yet.
[04:30] <CarinArr> ;)
[04:30] <Vuen> if only it shut down properly when i logged out, i could handle it
[04:30] <ScreaminIke> rt2570 it's my home partition... so... no
[04:30] <Vuen> yes, i noticed that since the new version (2.5 or whatever) it doesn't have to recheck the whole thing
[04:30] <axisys> rt2570: how do i remove the lighttpd tho? ever since i upgraded to edgy i have the update icon on top because it says lighttpd update available.. but i cannot remove it.. i tried dpkg with diff options
[04:30] <Vuen> still, sometimes i need to recheck the whole thing
[04:30] <Kira> Has anybody tested 6.10 on MacBook Pro yet? =P
[04:31] <LeeJunFan> reading about upstart now, so it (by default) uses some other means than rc*.d scripts to start services?
[04:31] <soundray> dooglus: have you been able to reproduce the acpid package problem?
[04:31] <rt2570> ScreaminIke: you can only use fsck on an unmounted filesystem
[04:31] <Wanderer> blah, source-o-matic doesn'thave edge yet :<
[04:31] <dooglus> Vuen: I run it using the console interface, inside dtach.  so it keeps running after I log out.
[04:31] <Vuen> for example, if i'm downloading a big (30gig) torrent, and i use some of the files and then delete them to download the rest, i gotta recheck everything
[04:31] <dooglus> soundray: no, it doesn't seem to be reproducible.
[04:31] <Vuen> dooglus: does it keep running when you shut off the computer? :/
[04:31] <rt2570> ScreaminIke: so you have to reboot with a live cd or in single user mode
[04:31] <ScreaminIke> so if i were to boot edgy live... that would work out?
[04:31] <LeeJunFan> okay, just found that part.
[04:31] <dooglus> Vuen: only if it's running on a different computer.
[04:32] <Vuen> i'm in college, i don't have the money for a dedicated torrent box
[04:32] <Vuen> that's not exactly a common or realistic scenario
[04:32] <dooglus> it doesn't have to be dedicated.  you can use your regular machine.
[04:33] <CarinArr> er.. how would something keep running on your own computer when you shut the computer down anyway
[04:33] <axisys> how do i force uninstall lighttpd.. until i remove it the top right corner update icon won't go away
[04:33] <phargle> CarinArr: pfm
[04:33] <Vuen> CarinArr: it doesn't. that's my point, i shut down my computer three or four times a week
[04:34] <rt2570> axisys: sudo apt-get remove lighttpd  does not work?
[04:34] <CarinArr> phargle?
[04:34] <wikijeff> Is anyone else in north america having trouble accessing the edgy download?
[04:34] <pettern> can i upgrade from dapper to edgy without reinstalling?
[04:34] <CarinArr> vuen, scrolled back up and reread it and now it makes sense;)
[04:35] <axisys> rt2570: nawp.. it failed http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fJw7JY57.html
[04:35] <timhaughton> A friend is getting an error "Cannot calculate upgrade" when trying to move to Edgy from Dapper. Anyone know what might cause this?
[04:35] <Jfrench> Can some one explain what GTK+2 Themes are, Do I need to install anything to use thoses themes. I want to install some of the GTK+2 themes that i have been looking at on Gnome look.org
[04:35] <CarinArr> you wouldn't think it'd be that difficult to add that sort of functionality
[04:35] <apokryphos> pettern: yes, see the channel topic
[04:35] <dooglus> wikijeff: I think the north american version is stuck at the border being fingerprinted.
[04:35] <czambran> pettern you can by running sudo update-manager -c -d, but If I were you I would backup my current system
[04:35] <axisys> rt2570: it seems almost impossible to get rid of lighttpd
[04:35] <vzoric> hi can someone tell me is it possible to install ubuntu with desktop image?
[04:35] <apokryphos> czambran: -d isn't needed, as edgy is no longer the development version
[04:35] <czambran> oops
[04:35] <apokryphos> vzoric: what?
[04:36] <GnarusLeo> hi, I have successfully installed new wireless drivers for my ISL3886 card using ndiswrapper. I have now a eth1 wich "dhclient eth1" gives me a IP! But I cant ping anything ... not even the gateway. What could possibly be wrong?
[04:36] <czambran> apokryphos thanks
[04:36] <apokryphos> np
[04:36] <rt2570> axisys: sorry, don't know
[04:36] <vzoric> apokryphos, Desktop CD can i install ubuntu edgy with this image?
[04:36] <apokryphos> vzoric: yes, that is a live + installer CD
[04:36] <Vuen> vzoric: yep
[04:36] <vzoric> thanks
[04:36] <Vuen> that's the official cd, basically the normal consumer install/live desktop cd
[04:37] <axisys> i need a backhoe to get rid of lighttpd
[04:37] <pettern> czambran: any simple way to make a backup?
[04:37] <ehird> could anyone help with this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1666205&postcount=66
[04:37] <dooglus> Vuen: I've heard that utorrent works well in wine if you want to try that.
[04:37] <livingdaylight> THE EAGLE HAS LANDED!!!
[04:37] <Vuen> mmm, i suppose...
[04:37] <appleseed> hello there ...
[04:37] <axisys> anyone expert in removing a pkg that dont want to removed using dpkg
[04:38] <appleseed> sorry to be such an ugly person but I am here only for your expertise :P
[04:38] <axisys> i cannot remove lighttpd for the love of god
[04:38] <Ranbee> hi, i've been looking for edgy screenshots and a good review to post on a forum, does anyone know where i can find that?
[04:38] <axisys> tried pretty much everything
[04:38] <apokryphos> axisys: what's the error?
[04:38] <rt2570> axisys: are there files /var/lib/dpkg/info/lightthp*  ?
[04:38] <apokryphos> Ranbee: check the /topic
[04:38] <axisys> apokryphos: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fJw7JY57.html
[04:38] <appleseed> few minutes ago I got the soul ;) and installed Ubuntu 6.10 on my Windows (bliah) system ...
[04:38] <haffe> Hello. I'm having some trouble (Kubuntu 6.10). When I try to print I get the error /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp failed.
[04:38] <haffe> What should I do about it?
[04:38] <apokryphos> haffe: #kubuntu
[04:38] <czambran> pettern download the package sbackup
[04:39] <axisys> rt2570: ls: /var/lib/dpkg/info/lightthp*: No such file or directory
[04:39] <apokryphos> axisys: try using some force options -- man apt-get
[04:39] <appleseed> however the install crashed on "automated" partition thing and now I cannot boot my system
[04:39] <dooglus> axisys: http, not htthp?
[04:39] <appleseed> what should I do? plz help me I am typing this from my old Mac  system :P
[04:39] <axisys> i have the update icon (orange one) for lighttpd.. but i can't update nor can i remove
[04:39] <axisys> dooglus: lighttpd
[04:39] <appleseed> many thanks in advance
[04:40] <davvs> i started a graphical program on a remote host with ssh -X that i need to keep running. how can i change it so that it wont be killed if i restart this computer?
[04:40] <GnarusLeo> hi, I have successfully installed new wireless drivers for my ISL3886 card using ndiswrapper. I have now a eth1 wich "dhclient eth1" gives me a IP! But I cant ping anything ... not even the gateway. What could possibly be wrong?
[04:40] <rt2570> axisys: that is the problem. it is already uninstalled. but somehow apt thinks it isn't. tried "sudo apt-get autoremove" already?
[04:40] <axisys> apokryphos: i think i did try force..
[04:40] <sidny4> in my /etc/fstab I have ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 for my NTFS partition but I can't access it, I can as root though
[04:40] <apokryphos> davvs: it doesn't work with all applications, but try ctrl+z
[04:40] <axisys> rt2570: no.. let me try
[04:40] <dooglus> axisys: ok.  not what you told him to type, anyway :)
[04:40] <sandy16> any body has idea how to capture the ram streaming i.e rtsp protocol
[04:41] <davvs> apokryphos, to pause it in the terminal?
[04:41] <appleseed> anyone to help my poor soul?
[04:41] <apokryphos> sidny4: you have to mount it as user, not root
[04:41] <appleseed> I REALLY want to try Ubuntu :D
[04:41] <apokryphos> davvs: you want to pause it?
[04:41] <ScreaminIke> now in a live session... running e2fsck gets me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28442/
[04:41] <axisys> rt2570: that faild too http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/FBcxKJ55.html
[04:41] <dooglus> appleseed: can you still boot from the C?D
[04:41] <appleseed> yes
[04:41] <haffe> What command should I use to reinstall an already installed package?
[04:41] <boink> !tell appleseed about ask
[04:41] <davvs> apokryphos, no, i want it to keep running even if i shut down the shell
[04:41] <dooglus> haffe: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>
[04:41] <smile2me> Hello
[04:41] <sidny4> apokryphos, how do you mean, shouldn't haveing that in /etc/fstab take care of that?
[04:41] <appleseed> trouble is that I cannot start windows (bliah:P) either
[04:41] <apokryphos> appleseed: only thing I can recommend is trying to install through the alternate CD
[04:42] <haffe> dooglus: Thanks.
[04:42] <axisys> dooglus: i tried several options to get rid of lighttpd
[04:42] <apokryphos> davvs: yes, on many apps that will work. Not all though.
[04:42] <Vuen> gah, utorrent doesn't support magnet links either.
[04:42] <dean_> _
[04:42] <Ranbee> apokryphos: thanks, but there are no screenshots in the topic?? no reviews either. thanks anyway, i'll keep searching :)
[04:42] <gh0st> hello, can i safely delete the content of /tmp?
[04:42] <axisys> apokryphos: let me man apt-get.. i thought i tried force
[04:42] <Vuen> looks like i'm stuck with azureus for those hard-to-download files :(
[04:42] <appleseed> and if install will crash on the automatic partitioning what should I do?
[04:42] <apokryphos> sidny4: nope, user option is only so that users can mount. If root mounts however, users can't edit in there
[04:42] <dooglus> Vuen: oh really?  I've not played with it much.
[04:42] <smile2me> how do i make a user execute a file at login? In centos i used .bash_profile, what about in ubuntu?
[04:42] <ScreaminIke> gh0st, i don't know for sure, but i do it all the time ;)
[04:42] <apokryphos> Ranbee: there's zilliosn of reviews on Google. Release notes in the topic though
[04:42] <tonyyserver> smile2me: The same file exists
[04:42] <Ranbee> k
[04:42] <gh0st> and how to clean/empty apt-get cache
[04:42] <W_McL> sidny4: add the options uid=<your user id>, gid=<your group id>
[04:43] <ScreaminIke> apt-get clean
[04:43] <apokryphos> smile2me: any .profile* file in ~ should be fine
[04:43] <sidny4> ok
[04:43] <axisys> apokryphos: i dont see any force option in man apt-get
[04:43] <dooglus> smile2me: .bash_profile is used when a login shell is created, but most users never create a login shell
[04:43] <rt2570> axisys: your whole pkg database seems f**ked up. did you use automatix before?
[04:43] <davvs> apokryphos, so how do i know if i can disconnect without loosing the window?
[04:43] <apokryphos> davvs: ssh through another window, and see if it's still running
[04:43] <smile2me> thnks
[04:43] <apokryphos> axisys: dpkg, even.
[04:43] <ScreaminIke> who
[04:44] <axisys> apokryphos: yes i definite tried force w/ dpkg
[04:44] <apokryphos> axisys: and what did you get?
[04:44] <axisys> *definitely
[04:44] <ScreaminIke> ... sorry. used to playing mud's... that command is now obsolete *eyes the room list*
[04:44] <chplanet_> How does one set up a TV OUT on a ATI 9200 graphic card?
[04:44] <gh0st> when will edgy eft be released?
[04:44] <deonla> ahoy xgl when i login to my xgl wm i just get a blue screen, anybody know of a site ir location with some good info on xgl?
[04:44] <appleseed> @apokryphos mate ... sorry to bust your chops ... what should I do?
[04:44] <apokryphos> gh0st: topic
[04:44] <axisys> apokryphos: let me run it again.. did not save it
[04:44] <c0nf> [17:44:50]  <gh0st> when will edgy eft be released? -> released
[04:44] <LjL> !edgy | gh0st
[04:44] <ubotu> gh0st: Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[04:44] <c0nf> :p
[04:45] <exhale-> i installed compiz, how do i enable all the features? :)
[04:45] <apokryphos> appleseed: highlight me when speaking, otherwise I might miss you :)
[04:45] <dooglus> smile2me: you can try ~/.gnomerc - that's used if the user logs in to GNOME.  I don't think there's any way to do it in general though.
[04:45] <asdx|work> is beryl in the repos?
[04:45] <appleseed> hehe REALLY thanks mate:)
[04:45] <rt2570> axisys: if you used automatix, support stops right here
[04:45] <exhale-> asdx|work: no
[04:45] <apokryphos> appleseed: you can use TAB for autocompletion of nicks in IRC
[04:46] <asdx|work> exhale-: is the nvidia 9625 drivers there?
[04:46] <appleseed> apokryphos: u rule!
[04:46] <axisys> apokryphos: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/r6Ih7q42.html
[04:46] <deonla> ahoy xgl when i login to my xgl wm i just get a blue screen, anybody know of a site ir location with some good info on xgl?
[04:46] <apokryphos> appleseed: so yeah, let me know how it goes with the alternate CD
[04:46] <appleseed> apokryphos: respect!
[04:46] <exhale-> asdx|work: not shure what version..
[04:46] <appleseed> apokryphos: thanks imba mate! bye for now :D
[04:46] <gh0st> do i need ubuntu-desktop for "gksu "update-manager -c" ?
[04:46] <apokryphos> axisys: ps aux|grep lighttpd ?
[04:46] <apokryphos> gh0st: it should take care of installing it, first.
[04:47] <gh0st> apokryphos: so nothing to worry about?
[04:47] <apokryphos> right
[04:47] <ScreaminIke> gh0st: yea. update-manager is a gui
[04:47] <gh0st> will it also take care that my home folder is on a Separated partition?
[04:47] <asdx|work> I love this bug. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[04:47] <apokryphos> not at all
[04:47] <axisys> apokryphos: none
[04:48] <asdx|work> I hope it will eventually get fixed :)
[04:48] <gh0st> will it also take care that my home folder is on a Separated partition?
[04:48] <ScreaminIke> gh0st, i suggest that you make sure that that is your current configuration. if not, edgy won't change a thing. if it is... well... it still won't change it
[04:48] <gh0st> ok
[04:48] <ScreaminIke> wait a bit for answers, gh0st, we're all very bz ;)
[04:48] <apokryphos> axisys: curious. Seems like a mucked up package; what about ls /etc/init.d/|grep lightt ?
[04:48] <ehird> asdx|work: that bug prevents me from upgrading! :P
[04:48] <axisys> apokryphos: let me check
[04:49] <gh0st> what and what with the extra repos i added? should i remove them? and basically, will something be changed in my config files? did anyone tested it?
[04:49] <deonla> where can i get a good xgl how to?
[04:49] <axisys> apokryphos: its there in init.d
[04:49] <kevin> i need a good xgl how too also
[04:49] <axisys> kevin: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:49] <apokryphos> axisys: is that an ubuntu package from the repositories?
[04:49] <ScreaminIke> by the by... can i get some more hand-holding on my e2fsck. it tells me that it thinks the partition isn't really ext2, or that the superblock is corrupt. i KNOW it's ext2... so... how do i edit/change the superblock?
[04:49] <Flats> I installed an old scsi hard drive today if I go to device manager it sees the scsi card and make and model of drive just fine but I don't see it in my places folders.  I see my USB flashdrive, CD and regular hard drive and floppy but no scsi
[04:49] <Flats> any ideas
[04:50] <jose__> hola
[04:50] <W_McL> Flats: is the drive formatted and mounted?
[04:50] <axisys> apokryphos: i downloaed the ubuntu pkg from lighttpd website for dapper few months ago
[04:50] <axisys> apokryphos: let me send u the link
[04:50] <axisys> apokryphos: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fl%2Flighttpd%2Flighttpd_1.4.11-3ubuntu3_i386.deb&md5sum=d6fe7e57e57c88b8f9009794d39b7aac&arch=i386&type=main
[04:51] <Flats> I believe mounted is the question.  I guess it didnt auto mount?
[04:51] <Flats> how can i tell
[04:51] <desertfish> hey, all.  Is there a file containing the version of ubuntu installed?
[04:51] <Flats> help about
[04:51] <apokryphos> desertfish: cat /etc/issue
[04:51] <Flats> desert
[04:51] <desertfish> ah!  thanks
[04:51] <apokryphos> axisys: hm, curious. You should file a bug report.
[04:51] <FunnyLookinHat> !topic
[04:51] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[04:51] <W_McL> Flats, type mount in a terminal and look which devices are listed
[04:51] <FunnyLookinHat> woops.
[04:52] <axisys> apokryphos: w/ lighttpd or ubuntu
[04:52] <dooglus> I can't install ubuntu-desktop: it depends on nautilus-sendto, which depends on gaim<1:3.0 but gaim2:2.0 is installed.  what's up with that?
[04:52] <apokryphos> axisys: ubuntu, so in launchpad
[04:52] <axisys> apokryphos: ok
[04:52] <axisys> apokryphos: thnx
[04:52] <Flats> wow, umm I see no scsi lines anywhere
[04:52] <apokryphos> dooglus: things can sometimes break if you're using non-release ubuntu packs
[04:52] <Flats> lots O stuff there
[04:53] <dooglus> apokryphos: I don't think I am
[04:53] <apokryphos> dooglus: did gaim 2.0 come with dapper?
[04:53] <dooglus> apokryphos: I don't think so.
[04:53] <Flats> dev/hda1 but I believe that is my boot ide
[04:53] <ScreaminIke> no, apokryphos, just edgy
[04:53] <asdx|work> apokryphos: no
[04:53] <W_McL> Flats, no /dev/sd* ? ok... then the device isn't mounted. try to find out the device's name
[04:53] <asdx|work> apokryphos: gaim 1.5 is in dapper
[04:53] <apokryphos> dooglus: I recommend removing it and then trying to reinstall u-d
[04:53] <dooglus> !info gaim dapper
[04:53] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[04:53] <dooglus> !info gaim edgy
[04:53] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[04:53] <bur[n] er> anyone have a torrent link for 6.10?  the site is dead
[04:54] <bur[n] er> also... is there a cd or ust DVD?
[04:54] <eva> what is the best cd and dvd player for ubuntu
[04:54] <apokryphos> DVD isn't announced yet
[04:54] <dooglus> apokryphos: removing gaim?  but it's nautilus-sendto which is complaining
[04:54] <optimusprime> if I upgrade to Edgy will I loose my Windows Partition?
[04:54] <_lemsx1_> bur[n] er: cdimages.ubuntu.com
[04:54] <lupine_85> optimusprime: I'm afraid not
[04:54] <bur[n] er> _lemsx1_: i'm there... kinda of... there's only dvd links and it's slow as balls to navigate around searching for the cd isos
[04:54] <ehird> lupine_85: <lol>
[04:54] <apokryphos> dooglus: but looks like gaim is the problem
[04:54] <optimusprime> :)
[04:55] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: try using a mirror
[04:55] <lucasvo> optimusprime: if you're upgrading from dapper to edgy the partition table wont change
[04:55] <lucasvo> apokryphos: or bittorrent
[04:55] <lucasvo> bur[n] er: this was meant for you
[04:55] <ivoks> wo.... how do you like it? :)
[04:55] <apokryphos> yes
[04:55] <Flats> Should I be ablk to find the name in devicemanager
[04:55] <_lemsx1_> bur[n] er: there is a dvd/current that has .torrent links
[04:55] <dooglus> apokryphos: "Reinstallation of gaim is not possible, it cannot be downloaded"
[04:55] <dooglus> apokryphos: wtf?
[04:55] <bokey> optimusprime# no, windows partition won't be erased.
[04:55] <bur[n] er> seems i get no option for a cd eh?
[04:55] <apokryphos> dooglus: probably because 2.0 isn't in your repository; so remove it, and then install.
[04:56] <_lemsx1_> bur[n] er: get the torrent while everybody is uploading now ;-)
[04:56] <dooglus> apokryphos: I don't have a repository
[04:56] <dooglus> apokryphos: I'm using one of the standard ones
[04:56] <bur[n] er> does a cd iso of edgy exist??
[04:56] <Khamael> can I change what mirror I am upgrading to edgy from?
[04:56] <LjL> !edgy | bur[n] er
[04:56] <ubotu> bur[n] er: Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[04:56] <apokryphos> dooglus: try the above
[04:56] <sproingie> gksu "update-manager -c"   .... now that is slick
[04:56] <LjL> Khamael: yes, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:56] <apokryphos> yup =)
[04:57] <ScreaminIke> bur[n] er: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[04:57] <apokryphos> ScreaminIke: that displays incorrect info, by the way.
[04:57] <W_McL> Flats, i don't know, but you can find it via lshw in the console. the best is to use lshw -short and grep for /dev/sd
[04:57] <Khamael> LjL: seems it is too late. allready ran "gksu "update-manager -c""
[04:57] <dooglus> apokryphos: other packages depend on gaim; I don't want to disturb them
[04:57] <eva> what is the best player for cd and dvd
[04:57] <ScreaminIke> how so, apokryphos? that's where i go for all my ubuntu torrents...
[04:57] <apokryphos> !media
[04:57] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:58] <LjL> Khamael: as long as it's just downloading, and not yet installing, i *think* you *should* be able to interrupt it. but i can't really say, because i've never used update-manager, only apt-get
[04:58] <apokryphos> ScreaminIke: well check it -- ubuntu desktop iso isn't 548 megs
[04:58] <apokryphos> dooglus: can't you reinstall them after?
[04:58] <optimusprime> also will all my files be intact?
[04:58] <ScreaminIke> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso698MiB659
[04:58] <sandy16> how to capture the real media streaming?
[04:58] <ScreaminIke> scrol down
[04:58] <W_McL> Flats, to see all disks with lshw type lshw -class disk
[04:58] <Dimensions> thanks guys ... but now when i try to login into mysql console ... by typing mysqladmin -u root ... it doesn't login rather shows long description ... when i change user to root and then type mysqladmin -u root mypassword it says : : connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[04:58] <apokryphos> ScreaminIke: yes, and above there's edgy-desktop-i386.iso  528MiB
[04:59] <ScreaminIke> well... who depends on code-names when you can go by version numbers? ;)
[04:59] <dooglus> apokryphos: I could, but do I have to?  I'm using apt-get and thought that was supposed to be good at this kind of thing?
[04:59] <optimusprime> if I upgrade to edgy that is
[04:59] <bionoid> Dimensions: add -p and type your password :p
[04:59] <apokryphos> dooglus: sure, but if people muck up slightly in packages then you're in situations like this. Have you tried updating your gaim, first, actually?
[04:59] <Foxtri> hallo und moin
[05:00] <apokryphos> ScreaminIke: it's not a good idea to recommend that link atm
[05:00] <Flats> W_McL  I have this the first time /0/e4000000/6        scsi0     storage     AHA-2940U2/U2W / 7890/7891  and a /1                   scsi1     storage  and only the IDE and CDROM when I use the -class disk
[05:00] <sproingie> optimusprime: it wont delete your data files
[05:00] <apokryphos> ScreaminIke: np :)
[05:00] <ScreaminIke> hrm... so... no one here is a hard-drive specialist? :(
[05:01] <W_McL> Flats, did you run lshw as superuser (with sudo)? look up the "logical name" of the SCSI disk
[05:01] <W_McL> Flats, that's the device name
[05:01] <zenlinuxNH> w00! Ubuntu Party! http://photos.zenlinux.com/UbuntuPartyEdgyEft
[05:01] <dooglus> apokryphos: I'm wondering if I've got a gaim from part-way through the edgy dev cycle or something.  I have 2:2.0.0beta3-2ubuntu0 whereas the repo has 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9
[05:01] <Khamael> does anybody know if there is a norwegian edgy repo?
[05:01] <dvheumen> hey everyone, I think I've got a problem to which the answer is childishly simple, but I just can't find it on internet anywhere :( It's about packet forwarding in linux...
[05:02] <dooglus> apokryphos: what's the "1:" and "2:" prefix mean?
[05:02] <rukuartic> Durn it... I've gone and messed up my server. I commented localhost out of /etc/hosts and now I can't run sudo to undo it... any tips?
[05:02] <Flats> logical name is /dev/sda.  I should be writing this **** down
[05:02] <lupine_85> rukuartic: did you set a root password?
[05:02] <Flats> this is priceless for a newbie
[05:02] <apokryphos> dooglus: could be; and in that particular case -- I'm not sure
[05:02] <rukuartic> lupine_85: nope...
[05:02] <ScreaminIke> rkuartic: yea. run a live system, mount the drive, edit it back in.
[05:02] <lupine_85> then a reboot into single-user mode could be in order :/
[05:03] <dooglus> apokryphos: I could have the same situation for other packages too.  is there some way to check which packages aren't at the same version as the repo?
[05:03] <rukuartic> lupine_85: any way of doing that without attaching a monitor to the computer?
[05:03] <lupine_85> rukuartic: only if you're good with a keyboard
[05:03] <dooglus> apokryphos: apt-get upgrade doesn't mention it, because I guess it thinks my gaim is newer than the one in the repo
[05:03] <W_McL> Flats, then do a sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda to find out how the disk is partitioned
[05:03] <dvheumen> I've set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ==> 1, but I can't get a single packet to forward to the other network interface :(
[05:03] <rukuartic> lupine_85: I figured... thanks then
[05:03] <lupine_85> when it's rebooting, you'd have to gauge when grub is starting then hit esc <down> <enter>
[05:03] <apokryphos> dooglus: no easy way I know of, nope.
[05:03] <axisys> apokryphos: submitted a bug
[05:03] <axisys> apokryphos: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/lighttpd/+bug/68401
[05:04] <daydreamer> hi
[05:04] <apokryphos> axisys: cool, thanks
[05:04] <apokryphos> hi daydreamer
[05:04] <Flats> Disk /dev/sda: 18.3 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[05:04] <Flats> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2226 cylinders
[05:04] <Flats> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:04] <Flats> I can format, thats not a problem
[05:05] <PhoenixP3K> Haa! I'm out of blank CDs. Is there some way to burn the bootable cd on a DVD ?
[05:05] <W_McL> Flats, it looks like you need to format the disk because it seems to be unformatted
[05:06] <sproingie> PhoenixP3K: it should burn to a dvd, i've done it before
[05:06] <W_McL> Flats, if it was formated yo'd get a list of the partitions
[05:06] <teledyn> dvheumen: you need an iptables rule to set up the forwarding
[05:06] <ndlovu> can anyone tell me if the gnome "save as" dialog has changed in edgy eft? that's the one thing that irritates me the most in dapper...
[05:06] <Flats> so just sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[05:06] <Tokenbad> in ubuntu is there a way to see passes behind *****
[05:06] <lupine_85> teledyn: no, you'd need an ipables rule for NAT
[05:06] <m0biu5> Does anyone know of software to manage clients and data? I local church is looking for a way to manage the kids that come into their day care program..
[05:06] <fryfrog> are there any deb repository mirrors (or list anywhere)?
[05:06] <daydreamer> i'm having some problems getting my lcd well configured, what does the "Screen Resolution" app in gnome change when i change from 75 to 60Hz??? i already have a line saying 60Hz in my xorg.conf file, but when i change it in "Screen Resolution" util it's almost perfect, only moved a bit tothe right
[05:07] <teledyn> lupine_85: how to set up nat then?
[05:07] <PhoenixP3K> sproingie: thanks for the info. Anyone else support this theory?
[05:07] <dvheumen> teledyn: to which rule are you referring? I did set all policies to allow to prevent accidental blocking
[05:07] <lupine_85> do you want/need it?
[05:07] <maxb_at_work> Are there any Subclipse users here?
[05:07] <lupine_85> simple ip forwarding is trivial to set up
[05:07] <dvheumen> lupine_85: I thought so too :P
[05:07] <lupine_85> it would help if I knew what you were up to ;)
[05:07] <teledyn> you need to set up a nat rule
[05:08] <phaedrus44> hey TokenBad wussup
[05:08] <apokryphos> fryfrog: yes, check the main download page
[05:08] <dvheumen> do I really need to set up NAT? it's internal only...
[05:08] <apokryphos> fryfrog: often you can just do xx.archive.ubuntu.com where xx is your countrycode
[05:08] <Tokenbad> phaedrus44, not much
[05:08] <Tokenbad> you?
[05:08] <MarcN> hmm, edgy upgrade is complaining about a conflict between Xsession5 man page in both xinit and x11-common.  hmm
[05:08] <W_McL> Flats, yes. and in fdisk use the help if you need more info (type m)
[05:08] <sproingie> m0biu5: that's a pretty open-ended question.  i suspect a CRM app would be a bit much.  you probably need something like an appointment scheduler
[05:08] <teledyn> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTIF -j MASQUERADE
[05:08] <phaedrus44> nada....just at werk
[05:08] <lupine_85> dvheumen: you don't need NAT for that
[05:08] <Tokenbad> sounds like fun...
[05:08] <Flats> sweet thank you very much
[05:08] <lupine_85> maybe you have an iptables rule blocking it, though?
[05:08] <dvheumen> lupine_85: that what I thought..
[05:08] <Tokenbad> its just now 8am here...and been up 4 hours already
[05:08] <DShepherd> what is the highest amount of people ever recorded for this channel?
[05:08] <blubb> anybody know what this "proactive security" in 6.10 is? is it SSP? PIE? selinux? grsec?
[05:08] <d-E-u-S> when i shut down my xubuntu then turn the hdd off but the pc is still on
[05:08] <sproingie> m0biu5: the channel is pretty berzerk today, going to be hard to discuss anything but edgy :)
[05:09] <lupine_85> or perhaps your network config isn't sane
[05:09] <dvheumen> lupine_85: I only want to forward the packets from my gigabit crosslink connection to my internet connection
[05:09] <apokryphos> DShepherd: around this, I think we went into 1090 once
[05:09] <m0biu5> sproingie, ah, my bad..
[05:09] <lupine_85> check routes, subnets, etc
[05:09] <lupine_85> dvheumen: that's not internal-only..
[05:09] <m0biu5> sproingie, didn't see it was released today.. thats cool
[05:09] <kuja> yay I got debmirror working on cygwin
[05:09] <kuja> Just a matter of time now...
[05:09] <dvheumen> lupine_85: It is when eth0 is still internal
[05:10] <sproingie> kuja: planning on getting apt working on cygwin?
[05:10] <Blacken> sproingie: Have you installed anything?
[05:10] <lupine_85> ok... how about you pastebin the output of route -n and ifconfig -a ?
[05:10] <dvheumen> lupine_85: it's this way: My PC <--Gbit --> Ubuntu server <--100 Mbit --> ADSL Modem
[05:10] <sproingie> Blacken: still downloading
[05:10] <d-E-u-S> when i shut down my xubuntu then turn the hdd off but the pc is still on, what can i do?
[05:10] <teledyn> dvheumen: you just want the 2 subnets to be able to communicate with each other?
[05:10] <Blacken> sproingie: No no--have you installed anything previously?
[05:10] <DShepherd> apokryphos: ok. thanks for the info man... i just got up.. still on dapper. going to see if I can download edgy.
[05:10] <lupine_85> are your PC and the ubuntu server on separate ip subnets?
[05:10] <Blacken> sproingie: Notably Flash, Java, etc.
[05:10] <kuja> sproingie: No, planning on grabbing the main/universe/multiverse repositories for dapper-i386 and taking it home and upgrading my box
[05:10] <apokryphos> DShepherd: cool. If you're upgrading, follow the guide ;-)
[05:11] <dvheumen> lupine_85: yes they are, 10.0.0/24 and 10.0.1/24
[05:11] <sproingie> Blacken: java, by hand
[05:11] <Blacken> sproingie: Ah, then you should be good.
[05:11] <Qaldune> hi
[05:11] <DShepherd> apokryphos: ... I like clean installs.. where is the guide at?
[05:11] <daydreamer> what does gnome "Screen Resolution" affect?? xorg.conf is unchanged when i set the resolution to 60Hz
[05:11] <Qaldune> i'm using ubuntu dapper is there a command to upgrade to edgy without burning cds?
[05:11] <apokryphos> DShepherd: in the /topic
[05:11] <lupine_85> is your ubuntu server set as the default route on the PC?
[05:11] <dvheumen> lupine_85: k, the routes: <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:11] <DShepherd> apokryphos: ah.. thanks
[05:11] <unimatrix9> hi there
[05:11] <daydreamer> Qaldune: update-manager -c i think
[05:11] <ArtVandalae> Hi guys, I can't even get to the torrent files... can someone link me to the Ubuntu 6.10 desktop torrent?
[05:12] <sproingie> Qaldune: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[05:12] <dvheumen> lupine_85: yep, and it's the only active interface on that PC
[05:12] <Qaldune> k
[05:12] <Qaldune> thx guys
[05:12] <magallego> hola
[05:12] <lupine_85> verr peculiar... does tcpdump show the packages reaching the ubuntu server's gbit interface?
[05:12] <unimatrix9> got an usb disk that has two partitions, one is an secure, or bootable erea, how can i format it to one disk?
[05:12] <unimatrix9> or is it better not to?
[05:13] <livingdaylight> LoL, are the ubuntu mirrors busy!
[05:13] <ArtVandalae> yep
[05:13] <variant> unimatrix9: if you want, why do you want to format it?
[05:13] <ArtVandalae> I'm having to request the Torrent(!!) file over IRC :P
[05:13] <dooglus> livingdaylight: the Czech one isn't - I got a steady 500KB/s from it when I upgraded a few hours ago
[05:14] <dvheumen> lupine_85: I'll play with tcpdump for a bit, because I haven't  used it yet
[05:14] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: just a little :P. Still, there's some fast ones around
[05:14] <ArtVandalae> dooglus: link please?
[05:14] <ArtVandalae> More people should use BT!!
[05:14] <unimatrix9> to get one disk
[05:14] <dooglus> ArtVandalae: deb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy           main restricted universe multiverse
[05:14] <livingdaylight> dooglus: cool, thx. i was trying the uk mirror and it was trickling like molasses
[05:14] <ArtVandalae> thanks dooglus
[05:14] <unimatrix9> but maybe it would be wiser to keep it this way...
[05:14] <variant> unimatrix9: cfdisk /dev/sdawhatever
[05:14] <variant> unimatrix9: and delete the paritions
[05:15] <variant> unimatrix9: then create one big partition
[05:15] <livingdaylight> dooglus: you shouldn't have told everyone ;)
[05:15] <dooglus> livingdaylight: the last time I checked, the czech mirror was really in the UK anyway; but maybe now they have a real czech mirror
[05:15] <variant> unimatrix9: then mkfs.vfat or ext2 or whatever /dev/sdwhatever
[05:15] <dooglus> livingdaylight: I've finished with it now - and it's all about load-sharing, right?
[05:15] <dvheumen> lupine_85: crap... I think I've got it... the ADSL modem doesn't have a static route back to <IP_ADDRESS> yet :-s
[05:16] <zenlinuxNH> Post your Ubuntu party pics! Here's mine from this morning: http://photos.zenlinux.com/UbuntuPartyEdgyEft
[05:16] <Ironfrost> hi - I have a question about installing Ubuntu
[05:16] <Ironfrost> the CD drive on my laptop is broken
[05:16] <Ironfrost> and I want to install from a USB flash drive
[05:16] <Flats> What aprtition type should I use? I just want to use the whoile hard drive to store my windows downloads and files
[05:16] <livingdaylight> what's with the dvd release?
[05:16] <Flats> err partition
[05:16] <variant> zenlinuxNH: wow, what a rave
[05:16] <Ironfrost> is it possible to just copy the CD onto a flash disk, or is it more complicated than that?
[05:17] <zenlinuxNH> variant: yeah, it almost got out of control. :P
[05:17] <livingdaylight> are people opting for the cd release over dvd? whats the going verdict?
[05:17] <TheGateKeeper> !backup
[05:17] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[05:17] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, most people do...  the DVD has some nice features but are not essential if you have a strong internet connection
[05:17] <mkclinux> i installed ubuntu lamp server. can constant ping from workstation with no drops.  browser goes to a test page ok but after a minute or 2 page not found.  only way back up is ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0.
[05:17] <unimatrix9> hmm, get fatal error on cfdisk
[05:18] <variant> unimatrix9: and what is the error?
[05:18] <variant> unimatrix9: you will need to be root dont forget
[05:18] <W_McL> Flats, then you best use fat because you can read and write acces it with both linux and windows
[05:18] <Blacken> Ew. You know, they could have used a halfway-decently written article write-up on Slashdot for the release. Like mine, or the half-dozen other decent ones. The one they used is barely literate.
[05:18] <unimatrix9> fatal error , did sudo ...
[05:18] <finalbeta> Just installed scribus, Why is it so diffrend from the normal program look? It's KDE based or something?
[05:18] <livingdaylight> FunnyLookinHat: so i should go for cd instead. I don't see the bittorrent site?
[05:19] <Flats> should I use fat16 type 6 ya think
[05:19] <gnube> JOIN #catalyst
[05:19] <EJ> Will there ever be a retail version of ubuntu with added support for patented technologies and maybe cedega?
[05:19] <variant> finalbeta: i think its qt based yes, the next version of qt has support for gtk lookalike themes afaik
[05:19] <variant> Flats: vfat
[05:19] <Blacken> EJ: That would be illegal to do in the U.S.
[05:19] <trappist> EJ: never
[05:19] <trappist> Blacken: no it wouldn't
[05:19] <EJ> Mandriva manages to do both well enough
[05:19] <ToHellWithGA> when will feisty be released?
[05:19] <eva> what program is easy to make mp3 with
[05:19] <Flats> No Vfat option
[05:19] <W_McL> Flats, i think fat32 is better
[05:19] <EJ> the free version and the powerpack version
[05:20] <finalbeta> Oh, that explains it, I killed my KDE style on this system, don't know how to reset it :p
[05:20] <Blacken> trappist: Without getting things like MP3 codecs licensed?
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, yea, I would ge tthe CD, the torrents should be on the download page further towards the bottom
[05:20] <variant> EJ: they must receive permission from the patent holders.. no thanks
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> livingdaylight, where are you located, and I'll get you a link
[05:20] <EJ> variant, whom don't mind as they receive the money
[05:20] <W_McL> Flats, for making fat partitions there is the tool mkdosfs
[05:20] <trappist> Blacken: by retail he means for pay.  so yes, we could pay royalties on stuff like that.  but we'll never do it.