[20:18] <nacc> is there an alternatively lplib way to get to a PPA archive object than via getPPAByName? and/or can getPPAByName be done anonymously? it seems like the example on the lp website uses launchpad.me which i'm guessing isn't usable with login_anonymously
[20:26] <nacc> i think i figured it out
[20:35] <nacc> does launchpad host source packages (e.g., the dsc, tarballs) in a canonical way?
[20:40] <rbasak> nacc: take a look at what I'm doing in "usd queue". I suspect you'll need to do something similar.
[20:40] <nacc> rbasak: thanks, will do
[20:40] <rbasak> I was looking into doing the same thing for PPAs actually. It's a little different though.
[20:43] <cjwatson> nacc: File names are unique within an archive, so you can always go to <archive URL>/+files/<name>_<version>.dsc
[20:44] <cjwatson> archive URL being something like https://launchpad.net/~<owner>/+archive/<name> for a PPS
[20:44] <cjwatson> PPA
[20:44] <cjwatson> er, https://launchpad.net/~<owner>/+archive/ubuntu/<name> that is
[20:44] <nacc> right, i think i've got the ppa url now, so just need to find all the files
[20:44] <nacc> and then i guess if i hve the dsc i can do a pull() on the contents
[20:44] <nacc> or so
[20:45] <cjwatson> right.  dget works on that kind of .dsc URL
[20:45] <cjwatson> since all it really needs is to be able to strip off the tail of the URL and append a different file name
[20:45] <nacc> yep
[20:46] <nacc> cjwatson: thanks!
[20:46] <cjwatson> np
[21:05] <nacc> cjwatson: are historical DSC files avilable that way too? that is, for anything in the PPA's publishing history? looking at https://launchpad.net/~nacc/+archive/ubuntu/php7testbuilds/+build/9573043, seems like that should translate to https://launchpad.net/~nacc/+archive/ubuntu/php7testbuilds/+files/php7.0_7.0.5-0ubuntu1.dsc ?
[21:07] <nacc> oh, do i need to be authenticate to see the source files in a PPA?
[21:11] <nacc> well, the url seems to resolve for the most recent package https://launchpad.net/~nacc/+archive/ubuntu/php7testbuilds/+files/php7.0_7.0.17-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~ppa1.dsc
[21:11] <nacc> ah i see why i think: https://launchpad.net/~nacc/+archive/ubuntu/php7testbuilds/+build/9573043 says 'built files' is empty
[21:12] <nacc> rbasak: --^ fyi
[21:17] <wgrant> nacc: By default, files in PPAs are permanently deleted about a week after they are no longer published.
[21:18] <nacc> wgrant: ok -- i guess that means this feature request becomes a bit trickier, rbasak :)
[23:00] <nacc> hrm, i think lp is having a problem
[23:00] <nacc> https://code.launchpad.net/~usd-import-team/ubuntu/+source/edk2/+git/edk2
[23:01] <nacc> shows no branches
[23:01] <nacc> https://git.launchpad.net/~usd-import-team/ubuntu/+source/edk2
[23:01] <nacc> shows all the branches
[23:01] <nacc> and maybe lplib is using some view on the first url, becuase it's saying i can't set the defualt branch to ubuntu/devel as it doesn't exist
[23:02] <nacc> or is that the latency mentioned re: the scanner job?
[23:55] <cjwatson> wgrant: ^- could you look at that?  I should really zzz
[23:55] <cjwatson> presumably FD leak again
[23:57] <wgrant> Yeah
[23:57] <wgrant> Will look
[23:57] <wgrant> Night


[00:06] <neversfelde> Quintasan: around?
[00:07] <Lex79> neversfelde: he's sleeping
[00:07] <neversfelde> k
[01:53] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: can you mark "won't fix" this bug 525367 ? thx
[01:56] <ScottK> Lex79: Why?  I thought it exposed some attica headers when built against it?
[01:59] <Lex79> ScottK: pusling won't fix, I commented in the bug about why
[01:59] <ScottK> OK
[01:59] <Lex79> maybe we can investigate a bit more, but Debian won't fix
[02:01] <Lex79> JontheEchidna do it in the silent mode lol
[08:29] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: new plan: kde-l10n-common + special script = replace certain templates in the common branch, merge it with the target source, get package
[08:29] <apachelogger> that also makes deploying changes easier since there is only one central place where stuff gets changed
[08:54] <jetdrone> i've created a usb stick for alpha3 with usbcreator from kubuntu 9.10 but the installer crashes on start everytime on a dell latitude d620 laptop
[09:00] <dpm> hey apachelogger, JontheEchidna, good morning. Now that you are mentioning kde-l10n-*, I've been tracking bug 529483, and something seems to create invalid POT templates when building the packages. Any ideas what it could be and if it could affect more packages than the 3 ones mentioned in the bug?
[09:05] <apachelogger> dpm: pots are generated by kde-pkg-tools, so it most likely is a bug in our infrastructure
[09:05] <apachelogger> I am just not sure where, because I do not think it is the scripts themselfs, I only recently synced them with what upstream uses for pot creation :S
[09:06] <dpm> ok, thanks apachelogger, I think at least I'll open a task on kde-pkg-tools to track this in the meantime
[09:06] <apachelogger> dpm: ok, I'll look at it ASAP
[09:07] <dpm> thanks a lot
[09:07]  * apachelogger doesnt even remember how to create for loop in bash Oo
[09:07] <dpm> :)
[09:08] <apachelogger> I haven't done serious bash scripting in years :)
[09:12] <Riddell> morning all
[09:12] <Riddell> coming from the top of Canonical Tower in sunny London today
[09:13] <apachelogger> morning Riddell, greetings to all and everyone :)
[09:15] <apachelogger> oh my
[09:16] <apachelogger> seems like bzr-builddeb at least on karmic does not like tar.bz2 -.-
[10:22] <jetdrone> hey guys, how does one debug the kubuntu installer? I've a usb stick that crashes at startup everytime I run the kubuntu lucid alpha3 installer? How can i run it from a command line and see the logs or whatever could help to identify the issue?
[11:05] <Riddell> jetdrone: hi
[11:05] <Riddell> jetdrone: logs are in /var/log/messages and /var/log/installer/
[11:06] <Riddell> jetdrone: check http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9 it has a few known bugs for ubiquity
[11:06] <Riddell> you run ubiquity on the command line by the way but the output still goes to the logs
[11:06] <jetdrone> thanks, will look into it
[11:07] <Riddell> jetdrone: crashes at startup or on the first page change?
[11:07] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: first page change as in?
[11:07] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: i could go till partitioning
[11:08] <Riddell> when you click Next to go from the alpha warning to the language page
[11:08] <Riddell> it's intermittent, doesn't happen every time
[11:08] <jetdrone> on the first page change
[11:08] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: yeah i could do that....crashes on manual partition though
[11:08] <Riddell> it looks hard to debug, it's a segfault not a python crash so it's something
[11:08] <jetdrone> everytime i run it i get the same crash
[11:08] <Riddell> something in pyqt or qt
[11:09] <Riddell> I think it's due to the new integrated progress bar that shtylman_ added
[11:09] <Riddell> so i guess the first thing to do would be see what happens if you rip out that code and go back to the progressDialog
[11:09]  * shadeslayer_ goes back to watching Heroes S1
[11:14] <jetdrone> from the messages if only logs that it is about to switch page and then page switched, from the installer log i only see  trying to create local folders that fail and locks failed to be acquired
[11:14] <jetdrone> and then qcrash
[11:22] <jetdrone> ok I get the same logs as bug source ubiquity #526534
[11:44] <Riddell> jetdrone: I think the tactic would be to remove the new progress bar code and see if that fixes it
[11:44] <Riddell> then we can either just drop that or dig further in to find the bit that causes the problem
[11:44] <Riddell> and moan to pyqt or pykde developers or whatever
[11:55] <freeflying> alpha3 works fine for you all? I did a fresh install with alpha3 on my desktop, it can't even drop me into console
[11:56] <freeflying> its a nvidia chipset based desktop with built-in nvidia graphic
[12:01] <Riddell> sounds like plymouth breakage
[12:01] <Tm_T> I don't even see plymouth other than quick flash
[12:03] <jussi01> can someone advise me how to replace lilo with grub2 on lucid?  is it as simplas as apt-get remove --pur  and apt-get install? or?
[12:05] <Tm_T> jussi01: or just installing grub2, I think it should conflict with lilo & others
[12:05] <jussi01> Tm_T: right. grub2 wouldnt install on initial install, so I had to use lilo, all good, but lilo sucks and i want my grub back. :)
[12:28] <freeflying> Riddell: purge plymouth won'r make it work as well
[12:29] <freeflying> jussi01: grub-install
[12:29] <jussi01> freeflying: hrm?
[12:30] <jussi01> grub isnt installed as yet at all
[12:30] <freeflying> jussi01: can you install it manually?
[12:30] <Riddell> freeflying: could be the KMS stuff in general
[12:31] <jussi01> freeflying: yes, of course, Im just checking if there are any little "niggly" things I need to do. :)
[12:31] <Riddell> try turning off KMS at grub, nomodesetting or something is the option
[12:35] <freeflying> Riddell: yes, seems like kms of nouveau's problem
[13:44] <apachelogger> dpm: have a fix for the pot creation
[13:45] <apachelogger> will take a couple of hours until I can QA it though
[13:45]  * apachelogger is on campus until 19 UTC or so
[13:49] <dpm> ah, awesome apachelogger. Thanks for keeping me up-to-date, and I hope you had fun remembering your old bash scripting days ;)
[14:29] <shadeslayer> hey has anyone try and compile kdebindings 4.4?
[14:30] <Riddell> yes
[14:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: does it?
[14:32] <Riddell> yes although it was blocked on mono this weekend past I believe
[14:32] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ive done : sudo apt-get builddep kdebindings-kde4,that should bring in all build deps i believe.. right?
[14:33] <Riddell> no it's "kdebindings" now
[14:33] <shadeslayer> Riddell: on karmic
[14:33] <Riddell> likewise
[14:34] <Lex79> someone kicked out mono from New, now buids fine
[14:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: apt-cache search kdebindings results in 3 hits,debug,java bindings and -kde
[14:35] <Riddell> that doesn't search for source packages.  the source package is kdebindings
[14:35] <shadeslayer> oh..
[14:36] <shadeslayer> so itll build... on karmic after i pull in the build-deps via that command
[14:37] <Riddell> if you have the correct packaging
[14:37] <Riddell> ** karmic testers for 4.4.1 needed
[14:37] <shadeslayer> ill help!
[14:37] <Riddell> do you know the ninjas PPA line?
[14:38] <shadeslayer> not before tommorow though :P
[14:38] <shadeslayer> Riddell: um nop
[14:38] <Riddell> needs tested today, release is tomorrow
[14:38] <shadeslayer> oh... ill be going to the uni tomorrow... i can test only tommorow :(
[14:38] <shadeslayer> Bandwidth constraints
[14:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: are the bindings fixed in 4.4.1?
[14:39] <Riddell> fixed?
[14:40] <shadeslayer> i mean will it be upgraded to 4.4.1 from 4.3.5
[14:40] <Riddell> there have been 4.4.0 packages for a while for that
[14:40] <shadeslayer> um... where?
[14:40] <Riddell> see kubuntu.org
[14:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: a bit more specifc would help :)
[14:46] <Riddell> "KDE SC 4.4 Packages Available"
[14:47]  * shadeslayer wonders how the backports repo left out
[14:47] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: kdebindings - 4:4.4.0-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa3 is in backports ppa
[14:47] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: yeah,i thought i had that repo....
[14:48] <shadeslayer> since i have kde 4.4
[14:49] <shadeslayer> no upgrades,no package by that name 0_o
[14:49] <shadeslayer> have a look : http://pastebin.ca/1817184
[14:50] <shadeslayer> i think since the lpia build failed,it didnt use that package
[14:51] <freeflying> Riddell: kimpanel-ibus can't work out of box under lucid, but fine under karmic :)
[14:52] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: so how do i force a download?
[14:52] <Riddell> freeflying: sigh, there's no difference.  is it a different version of ibus?
[14:53] <freeflying> Riddell: yes, ibus got upgraded
[14:53] <freeflying> Riddell: all configuration are fine, you need re-run ibus-daemon manually
[14:54] <Riddell> freeflying: fooey.  so we need to find out if there is a maintainer for kimpanel-ibus and see if he has plans to update to the new version
[14:54] <Riddell> freeflying: I'm not very impressed with the upgrade compatibility from ibus
[14:54] <Riddell> that's the trouble with dbus interfaces over library interfaces, nobody cares about versioning
[14:54] <freeflying> heh
[14:55] <freeflying> suppose I won't have time for it recently
[14:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i see that the ppa has the kdebindings but apt doesnt want to download them and refuses to even acknowledge them in the sources
[15:00] <Riddell> "kdebindings" isn't a binary package
[15:01] <shadeslayer> then?
[15:01] <shadeslayer> meta package?
[15:01] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: force a download?
[15:01] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: i mean how do i install kdebindings 4.4?
[15:02] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: add the repo and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:02] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: doesnt show meta package kdebindings
[15:02] <shadeslayer> nor does it show upgrades
[15:03] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: see above, it isn't a binary package
[15:03] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: ok,i get it,but since its a meta package,sudo apt-get install kdebindings should install it right?
[15:04] <shadeslayer> install all the stuff it pulls in i mean
[15:04] <neversfelde> it is a meta package?
[15:04] <shadeslayer> if it isnt a binary package,itll be a meta package right?
[15:06] <Riddell> 15:00 < Riddell> "kdebindings" isn't a binary package
[15:06] <shadeslayer> what is it then?
[15:06] <shadeslayer> source package?
[15:07] <Riddell> mm hmm
[15:30] <rgreening> What's the best way to upgrade from KARMIC to LUCID now? I have tried update-notifier-kde -d but it fails (complains about unable to remove update-notifier-kde I belive).
[15:30] <rgreening> Riddell:  ^
[15:31] <Riddell> we've done zero testing on that so far I'm afraid
[15:31] <Riddell> do-release-upgrade -d  ?
[15:36] <Tm_T> umm, Konqueror is still the default web browser in Kubuntu?
[15:36] <Riddell> mm hmm
[15:36] <Riddell> rekonq is looking nicer and nicer though
[15:37] <Riddell> wondering if we should invite a rekonq guy to UDS
[15:37] <Tm_T> Riddell: yeah, though I'm worried of lacking menu- and statusbar
[15:37] <Tm_T> I use them both frequently
[15:37] <Riddell> what for?
[15:38] <Riddell> the search box seems like the obvious missing element to me
[15:38] <Tm_T> Riddell: menubar for keyboard access (I keep it hidden when I don't need it) and statusbar tells information what tooltips cannot, like to where some links points to and so on
[15:38] <rgreening> Riddell: I'll try that
[15:39] <Tm_T> Riddell: otherwise, it looks (mostly) good
[15:39] <Riddell> Tm_T: it has a label which appears at the bottom with the link URL
[15:39] <Riddell> line Chromium does
[15:40] <Riddell> like
[15:40] <Riddell> allee: don't let me forget that nepomuk patch
[15:41] <Tm_T> Riddell: hmh, didn't do it for me everytime
[15:41] <Riddell> sounds like a bug
[15:45] <Tm_T> anyway, I would love to have option to show the statusbar all the time, I'm weird I know
[15:50] <Tm_T> Riddell: reason I was asking, was "Not a single one of the major distributions ships Konqueror as
[15:50] <Tm_T> default browser anymore. I think that says all."
[15:50] <Tm_T> in http://markmail.org/message/tuxnlj3wkiyar7hy#query:+page:1+mid:qluyyrjnmczuubwa+state:results
[15:51] <allee> Riddell: okay.  So 1st reminder :)  bug #529021
[15:52] <Riddell> Tm_T: besides Frank forgetting one obvious major distribution I agree, that's why i wanted arora for jaunty but others didn't
[15:52] <Riddell> allee: trueg commented that something was wrong with the version on reviewboard, did you notice that?
[15:53] <Tm_T> Riddell: I'm still against having Arora as default browser, one big reason is that it doesn't follow KDE language settings at all
[15:53] <Riddell> so hopefully rekonq will be the answer
[15:54] <Riddell> allee: of course you can add it to bzr yourself you know?
[15:56] <rgreening> Riddel: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[15:56] <rgreening> The package 'update-manager-kde' is marked for removal but it is in
[15:56] <rgreening> the removal blacklist.
[15:58] <Riddell> aah
[15:58] <Riddell> that'll be in a blacklist to stop it being removed but now we do want to remove it because it's not used in lucid
[16:00] <ScottK> Personally, I don't see a lot of benifit in switching browsers.  No matter what we switch to that's not Firefox, people will use Firefox because more web sites work with it.  People used to develop web sites for IE, now they mostly develop for IE and Firefox.
[16:00] <allee> Riddell: No had not seen it.   I look at it once more tonight     About commit:  lp:~kubuntu-member/kderun-time or something like that?
[16:00] <Riddell> allee: bzr co lp:~kubuntu-member/kdebase-runtime/ubuntu
[16:00] <allee> Riddell: thx
[16:00] <Riddell> edit; bzr add <files>; bzr diff; bzr commit
[16:01] <Tm_T> ScottK: heh, Firefox simply doesn't work here, so I'm happily living without it
[16:02] <Riddell> people develop websites for webkit too, anyone at all competant knows to check that works
[16:02] <Riddell> rgreening: dunno where that blacklist is, let's ask mvo
[16:02]  * Lex79 agrees with ScottK
[16:03] <ScottK> What's the market share of webkit browsers?
[16:03] <Tm_T> ScottK: there's no reliable way to measure
[16:04] <davmor2> Riddell: don't forget the magic online checker
[16:04] <Riddell> webkit browser share is probably about the same as mac desktop share
[16:05] <Riddell> but there's enough safari and chrome users out there that web designers care about it
[16:07] <ScottK> Looks like ~10% these days so likely so.
[16:07] <ScottK> Although there were lots of designers that didn't care about FF when it was at 10%.
[16:10] <Riddell> lucid and karmic testers still needed for 4.4.1
[16:11] <ejat> Riddell: 4.4.1 available?
[16:12] <Riddell> for testers
[16:12] <ejat> is it in ninjas ?
[16:12] <Riddell> yes
[16:23] <Tm_T> Riddell: it's safe to assume that no powepc-packages in ppa whatsoever?
[16:24] <Riddell> correct
[16:24] <Tm_T> I blame you, jussi01 (;
[16:26] <Tm_T> ...I actually have to figure out why Xorg in Lucid doesn't see/use keyboards
[17:38]  * shtylman_ wants iphone support in amarok now that rythmbox has it :)
[17:38] <Tm_T> shtylman_: what kind of support you mean?
[17:39] <shtylman_> Tm_T: to be able to add songs
[17:39] <Tm_T> from/to iphone?
[17:39] <shtylman_> right now I have to use a vm
[17:39] <ScottK> Ooooh.  Yes please.  I think iPhone support would imply iPod Touch support too.  I'd like some of that.
[17:39] <shtylman_> yea
[17:39] <shtylman_> ScottK: yea... I think it would
[17:39] <Tm_T> hmmm, gtkpod is the key there?
[17:40] <shtylman_> Tm_T: I don't think it is
[17:40] <shtylman_> Tm_T: http://www.osnews.com/story/22942/Ubuntu_10_04_To_Support_iPhone_iPod_Touch_
[17:40] <shtylman_> I think there are different libraries now
[17:41] <Tm_T> hmmm
[21:08] <apachelogger> dpm: ping ping
[21:09] <apachelogger> no dpm :(
[21:10] <dpm> apachelogger, on a meeting, so I might not be too responsive, but If I can help, just shoot :)
[21:11] <apachelogger> dpm: can you somehow query for all templates that are affected by the broken-pot bug?
[21:11] <apachelogger> dpm: I have a fix ready to be uploaded... but we need to rebuild all affected packages with new pkg-kde-tools AND run tight QA on new pot uploads
[21:12] <apachelogger> the fix includes all new versions of some KDE l10n scripts that were last synced in jaunty, so there might be issues
[21:13] <apachelogger> on a positive side: I now made it easier to sync the scripts in pkg-kde-tools, which should help prevent such things form happening again
[21:15] <dpm> apachelogger, hmm, I'm not sure how to query on that. I've got a list of all template names from LP, but that's all. What I can do is to ask the Rosetta devs if they could run a query to check the content of templates, but I'm not sure how to do it before having spoken to them. Is there a particular string that could help us identify the broken templates? I could also do a visual inspection: in Catalan I know all KDE templates are translated, so if we
[21:15] <dpm> recently have gotten some untranslated due to the bug, I could perhaps identify them
[21:16] <dpm> i.e. I mean something that is common to all broken templates?
[21:19] <apachelogger> dpm: every string that at least contains "<[string,layout,widget,item,property]" should be looked at
[21:20] <dpm> ok, that might be a start, I'll talk to them tomorrow when they're back
[21:23] <apachelogger> dpm: k, thanks, I'll upload the fixed pkg-kde-tools meanwhile
[21:24] <dpm> cool, ta
[21:24] <apachelogger> dpm: please inform the translators to watch out for problems
[21:24] <apachelogger> though I do not suppose there will be any :)
[21:25] <neversfelde> ScottK: ping
[21:25] <dpm> yeah, I'll have to tell them to watch out not to translate the current translators anyway
[21:25] <ScottK> neversfelde: Pong
[21:25] <apachelogger> dpm: true :)
[21:25] <neversfelde> ScottK: If you have a minute, would you have a look at bug 530172
[21:25] <ScottK> Sure.
[21:25] <neversfelde> ScottK: thanks
[21:26] <apachelogger> Riddell: to sync l10n scripts in pkg-kde-tools use l10nsync from debian/rules, findfiles needs manually merge...the function prints a reminder about that
[21:26] <apachelogger> Riddell, dpm: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pkg-kde-tools/0.6.4ubuntu4
[21:27] <ScottK> neversfelde: I'll approve it if you agree to work to get it in Debian and maintain it there.
[21:27] <neversfelde> ScottK: yes, I will do it
[21:27] <ScottK> OK.
[21:27] <neversfelde> it is already on my ToDo
[21:31] <blueyed> Is there a way to get the currently selected profile from powerdevil via dbus? there's setProfile, but not getProfile.. see "qdbus org.kde.powerdevil /modules/powerdevil". Am I missing something?
[21:34] <apachelogger> blueyed: I don't think there is a way
[21:35] <blueyed> ok, I'll file a wishlist items with bko then.
[21:36] <apachelogger> blueyed: you might want to poke drf in #kde-devel with that bug, if he is around and the code design is appropriate adding such a dbus interface doesnt take more than a couple of minutes
[21:38] <apachelogger> yay
[21:38] <apachelogger> bzr builddeb in lucid supports orig.tar.bz2
[21:39] <apachelogger> meh
[21:39] <apachelogger> bash scripting is so boring
[21:39] <apachelogger> http://www.goldb.org/goldblog/cmg_images/real_programmers_binary.jpg
[21:41] <blueyed> he's not around, apachelogger. Thanks. Filed as 229074
[21:45] <nixternal> Quintasan|Szel: bug 500218 - this is fixed for you too now right? I know all 3 of my machines it is working again, qemu that is
[22:55] <apachelogger> oh oh oh
[22:55] <apachelogger> I am quite awesome if I might say so ;)
[22:55] <Riddell> true true
[22:55] <neversfelde> hehe
[22:59] <neversfelde> uh new kdepimlibs and kdepim tarballs
[22:59] <neversfelde> Lex79: as far as I understand a new kmldonkey tarball will be available after 4.4.1 is released
[22:59] <neversfelde> on ktown
[23:25] <apachelogger> that bash is becoming so weird I could just as well have implemented it in ruby :P
[23:26] <neversfelde> meh, blogilo is pulled in on every update from the backports-ppa
[23:27] <neversfelde> it Replaces: bilbo (<< 0:1.0)
[23:27] <neversfelde> what's wrong there?
[23:28] <apachelogger> neversfelde: only if bilbo is installed or also without it?
[23:28] <neversfelde> apachelogger: I cannot test, one moment
[23:34] <neversfelde> apachelogger: it does not matter if bilbo is installed or not, blogilo is reinstalled on every upgrade
[23:35] <apachelogger> that is interesting though
[23:42] <apachelogger> neversfelde: maybe it just hates you :P
[23:43] <apachelogger> hm
[23:43] <apachelogger> neversfelde: I am not sure that Replaces: bilbo (<< 0:1.0) is a good idea
[23:44] <neversfelde> apachelogger: yes, the backports beta ppa is my friend, backports ppa is jealous
[23:44] <neversfelde> apachelogger: I added the 0: some time ago, because it was 1.0 before
[23:44] <apachelogger> 0:1.0 technically == 1.0
[23:44] <apachelogger> but I am not sure 0:1.0 is a correct notation
[23:45] <neversfelde> seems that it is not
[23:45] <persia> It is correct, but completely pointless.
[23:45] <persia> 0: is implied by the absence of epoch
[23:46] <apachelogger> then why do all packagemanagers want to upgrade the package :P
[23:46]  * apachelogger doesnt see any other weirdness in the control file and goes checking if something is wrong on soyuz' side
[23:48] <apachelogger> hm, nothing weird there
[23:52] <apachelogger> neversfelde, persia: aptitude shows the replaces of the installed version as 0:1.0 and the one it wants to install as 1.0
[23:52]  * apachelogger would try removing the 0 honestly
[23:52] <apachelogger> maybe there is an implementation bug
[23:53] <persia> That sounds like an implementation bug.  "0:" is supposed to be implied by the absence of an epoch according to 5.1.12
[23:53] <neversfelde> apachelogger: that would introduce the old overwirte problem again
[23:53] <apachelogger> neversfelde: why?
[23:54] <neversfelde> apachelogger: blogilo tries to overwirte someting that is in bilbo, dunno the details anymore
[23:54] <apachelogger> neversfelde: replaces (<< 4:4.4.0)
[23:55] <neversfelde> apachelogger: k, I'll try
[23:55] <apachelogger> if that does not work, then your packaging is bugged :P
[23:57] <neversfelde> seems that after I wrote Moto, everything that I do is broken or breaks something
[23:57] <neversfelde> that is what I call bad karma :D
[23:57] <apachelogger> well deserved :P
[23:58] <neversfelde> Riddell: when do you start uploading 4.4.1 to lucid? The same bug is in bzr I think.


[00:03] <ivan_> hello
[00:23] <bbeck> how do I keep the gnome keyring from opening when I log into KDE?
[01:12] <jonathan__> :(
[01:43] <pip> Hello, I have an old small laptop, SonyPCG-SRX55H, after installing Kubuntu 10.04, the biggest resolution is only 800x600 and it doesn't scale all the screen, why is that ?
[02:14] <Zorael> KVpnc seems to lack a package with debugging symbols. Is this intended or an oversight?
[02:16] <pip> I can't start Knetworkmanager after installation :S, the network plug icon on the panel shows "network manager disabled" :S
[02:22] <Zorael> pip: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9257105
[02:22] <Zorael> pip: but do 'kdesudo dolphin' instead of 'sudo dolphin
[02:22] <Zorael> '*
[02:23] <pip> a simple question, is Kubuntu *MUCH* different from ubuntu ?
[02:23] <pip> Zorael, why such wired way ?
[02:25] <bukayoo> pip: For Kubuntu it's better to install the plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[02:25] <Zorael> pip: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=223030. If you start using the network management plasmoid instead of KNetworkManager, you'll get a checkbox with which you can toggle networking.
[02:25] <pip> Zorael, And this is a Sony old laptop, with Intel 82815 integrated graphic card, the biggest resolution only have 800x600 without scaling itself to the physical screen
[02:26] <pip> is that a bug ?
[02:27] <Zorael> pip: Hard to say, in my experience Intel drivers have just worked out of the box
[02:28] <Zorael> Entering 'xrandr' in a terminal should list what resolutions it thinks your graphics card (and monitor) supports
[02:46] <nickee> Where is the "file search" K-menu-item?  It was on my KU 9.4 system, I don't see it on the KU 10.4 K-start-menu.  I'm using the "classic" style menu, but checked on the new style menu, & it's not there either.
[02:49] <nickee_> Was there an answer to this question:    Where is the "file search" K-menu-item?  It was on my KU 9.4 system, I don't see it on the KU 10.4 K-start-menu.  I'm using the "classic" style menu, but checked on the new style menu, & it's not there either.
[02:52] <snarkster> im trying to setup kdm to accept xdmcp connection but it doesnt work
[02:52] <snarkster> anyone got any clues on how to set that up?
[02:54] <Pedro_Amaral> brazil chat
[02:54] <Pedro_Amaral> ?
[03:35] <chirpis_> I'm having trouble installing software from a ppa.  I added the ppa to my software sources, and did an apt-get update, but I don't see the software in apt-cache search or kpackagekit.
[03:42] <snails> hi
[03:42] <snails> what version of kde is kubuntu at presently?
[03:42] <snails> I know it's 4.x.x
[03:49] <Dragnslcr> snails- 10.04 uses KDE 4.4.2
[04:12] <basy> hi, what can i do when kacipd is killing my CPU?
[05:26] <lordganesh> how to unistall any software installed using make
[05:38] <Blank`android> lordganesh: in the folder you originally compiled it, run 'sudo make uninstall'
[05:39] <lordganesh> Blank`android: thanks.
[05:39] <Blank`android> you're welcome
[07:03] <poyntz> how do you change the panel theme in kubuntu 9.10?
[07:03] <poyntz> more specifically, the latest plasma-desktop
[07:04] <hagebake> poyntz: see if you have Workspace Appearance or something similar in System Settings
[07:05] <snails> Dragnslcr: thanks bud.
[07:13] <poyntz> hagebake: found it. ty :). also not sure but is there any widgit style that goes with ghost (the panel decoration style)
[07:14] <poyntz> actually, ghost is a little underdone. looks sorta cool, but the popups need work...
[07:15] <hagebake> ghost? I don't have that
[07:16] <hagebake> I'm on 10.4
[07:39] <corigo> Laptop failed to complete it's sequence to go to sleep. Had to hard power off and reboot. Now knetwork manager is disabled and I can't find a way to enable it to manage my connections
[07:41] <corigo> Won't even manage (and connect) with the cable
[07:46] <poyntz> what's the alternative GUI package installer to kpackagekit in 10.04?
[07:46] <poyntz> cause yeh, kpackagekit died :S
[07:52] <corigo> got it
[08:24] <poyntz> ello?
[08:25] <abdoo_> hi
[08:25] <poyntz> does kpackagekit for 10.04 still work?
[08:25] <abdoo_> are u talking to me now ???
[08:25] <abdoo_> i do not know what is it ?
[08:26] <poyntz> what distro are you using?
[08:26] <abdoo_> why ?
[08:26] <poyntz> you could test for me if you like ;)
[08:26] <abdoo_> i don't know what is it ?
[08:27] <moetunes> !info kpackagekit
[08:27] <abdoo_> is it a programm for talking and chatting ?
[09:01] <cristian_> Hola
[09:01] <moetunes> !es | ? cristian_
[09:05] <larsjaaa> akssps011: more description please. Checked dmesg/syslog?
[09:23] <ubuntu_> hi
[09:27] <tjcatlett> ok how do i watch videos on youtube.com
[09:40] <removido> In KDE 3.5.10 the kicker was it cool to sizes in pixels instead of dragging the mouse as in KDE 4.4.
[09:41] <removido> applets kicker you can not adjust the font as before - color, size and type. A pity!
[09:42] <removido> In both the clock could be improved as in "styleclok" adding an alarm and countdown, and the customization options in the Gnome clock.
[09:42] <removido> ???
[09:42] <moetunes> maybe suggestions for #kde channel ?
[09:43] <removido> good idea
[09:45] <removido> I found the new version good for the hardware recognizes everything, rather than the hardy which is that I use
 ok how do i watch videos on youtube.com    sudo apt-get install gw6c
[09:46] <removido> youtube  adobe flash 10 works fine
[09:49] <removido>  youtube  go to adobe site and follow the instructions for Linux.
[10:04] <hart> is there a equalizer for alsa?
[10:21] <hrw> hi
[10:22] <hrw> any information when kdepim 4.4.85 will be available for maverick?
[10:49] <hart> ultrav1olet: how do i compile alsa_eq_plugin ?
[10:49] <cedvanes> idn
[10:49] <jussi> hrm, I dont seem to be able to connect to localhost:631 - it gives a connection refused error. any ideas about where to start looking?
[10:52] <hart>  ./rteq: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:52] <hart> what's wrong with this picture
[10:54] <jussi> hart: sounds like you havent got gtk 1.2 installed...
[10:55] <hart> jussi: yea i know heh but that is from 2002 not gonna install it
[10:56] <hart> i just trying to get my alsa equalizer to work on tholse system
[10:56] <hart> whole system
[10:56] <jussi> ahh
[10:56] <hart> no luck so far
[10:56] <jussi> last I heard there was an equalizer for phonon... but I dont remmber the details
[11:02] <hart> jussi: do you use pulseaudio ?
[11:02] <jussi> not
[11:02] <jussi> no
[11:02] <hart> do you have equalizer for alsa then ?
[11:03] <jussi> no, I dont use an equalizer
[11:03] <hart> oh
[11:04] <hrw> any information when kdepim 4.4.85 will be available for maverick?
[11:06] <jussi> hrw: usually maverick questions go to #ubuntu+1, however, it should be there soon as its in the ppa for lucid already
[11:06] <jussi> err, wait
[11:06] <jussi> not the pim, sorry.
[11:06] <jussi> hrw: Im not exactly sure on that.
[11:07]  * jussi grumbles at mondays
[11:09] <jussi> hart: are you looking for something for amarok?  or system wide?
[11:10] <hrw> k
[11:10] <jussi> hart: it seems amarok very recetly added an equalizer:  see this commit: http://kollide.net:8060/changelog/Amarok/src/engine/gst10/equalizer?cs=3798
[11:14] <zeld> hi all
[11:14] <zeld> i've a problem with akonadi
[11:14] <hart> jussi: no not that :D
[11:14] <hart> nubu
[11:14] <jussi> zeld: do tell... ;)
[11:15] <zeld> akonadi not start and says to me : http://dpaste.com/207026/
[11:17] <zeld> jussi: i have no packages about mysql-server
[11:18] <zeld> i've onluy installed mysql-common   mysql-server-core-5.1 mysql-client-core-5.1
[11:18] <jussi> !find mysqld-akonadi
[11:18] <zeld> but i do not know why do not start akonadi :|
[11:18] <jussi> zeld: I havent much experience with akonadi
[11:18] <zeld> :(
[11:19] <zeld> so jussi ?
[11:19] <jussi> I dont know the answer.
[11:20] <zeld> ok :)
[11:20] <zeld> thanks
[11:21] <zeld> ok jussi now akonadi shit is running :|
[11:21] <zeld> but it's impossible!!!
[11:22] <jussi> zeld: please watch your language here
[11:22] <zeld> jussi ok ok :)  excuse me :)))
[11:22] <zeld> \o/
[11:22] <zeld> excyse me all! :)
[11:23] <zeld> jussi:  do you know what function do akonadi???
[11:24] <Torch> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akonadi
[11:27] <zeld> Torch: thanks
[12:04] <duongnv> hello
[12:08] <zeld> ok ok :) bie bie guys!! good work with kubuntu ;)
[12:09] <gNOMe-> yo wheres the software package installer that lists everything properly
[12:12] <amichair> is it just me, or did rsibreak break in kde 4.4.4?
[12:13] <ubuntu__> Hi everyone
[12:13] <hrw> amichair: works for me with 4.4.85, worked with 4.4.4
[12:13] <sylsysyl> Hi everyone
[12:14] <amichair> hrw: I noticed it stopped counting down a a few days ago, and I think it coincided with upgrading to 4.4.4 (it's the only system change I can think of)
[12:14] <amichair> hrw: any ideas how to get it going again?
[12:15] <sylsylsyl> Re- Hi everyone
[12:15] <sylsylsyl> (sorry I had a problem with my keyboard as I'm using the live CD)
[12:16] <sylsylsyl> Someone may help me, I'm looking for an app for Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Xubuntu or any other variant
[12:16] <sylsylsyl> Do you folks know an app that is designed for managing a video collection ?
[12:17] <sylsylsyl> Like amarok for example but for video files instead of audios
[12:17] <hrw> amichair: no, sorry
[12:18] <amichair> hrw: k, thanks :-)
[12:18] <sylsylsyl> I foudn "JTheque Movies" which is fine, but still in development and not very well integrated in ubuntu (it's in Java)
[12:21] <sylsylsyl> here is jtheque movies : http://jtheque.developpez.com/en/index.html
[12:22] <sylsylsyl> http://www.baptiste-wicht.com/tag/jtheque/
[12:22] <sylsylsyl> ? is someone reading my messages at least ?
[12:24] <amichair> sylsylsyl: yes, but everyone who doesn't have an answer keeps quiet (and that's good!) :-)
[12:24] <sylsylsyl> amichair : ok thanks but nobody answered even "no" so I had a doubt
[12:25] <amichair> sylsylsyl: you can repeat the question (preferably in one line) every once in a while. When someone comes along that has an answer - they will let you know
[12:26] <sylsylsyl> amichair : thanks ! but honestly I don't expect to find any answer to my question as I have already searched a lot on the web...
[12:27] <amichair> steffen___: btw, if your question is not specific to kubuntu, you can try asking in the #ubuntu channel
[12:27] <amichair> oops, sorry steffen___, that was for sylsylsyl
[12:27] <sylsylsyl> THere's a thousand of software for managing a DVD or video collection, but here you have to understand "the films you have in your living-room", not the movies you have on your computer
[12:28] <sylsylsyl> there's also miro which could be something like what I'm looking for
[12:30] <sylsylsyl> amichair : I'm doing it on freenode#ubuntu, no more answers, gonna try on #ubuntu here
[12:30] <amichair> sylsylsyl: Good luck!
[12:30] <sylsylsyl> amichair : btw, there's a kubuntu.org server and a ubuntu.com server, each one with #ubuntu and #kubuntu chans ?
[12:31] <amichair> sylsylsyl: I'm pretty sure they are the same channels (irc servers interconnect, if these are not downright aliases of the same server)
[12:31] <sylsylsyl> ok ;)
[12:32] <sylsylsyl> amichair : fine, I didn't know that (aliases) about IRc
[12:32] <sylsylsyl> *IRC
[12:34] <sylsylsyl> amichair : :D i just noticed that freenode#ubuntu and kubuntu#ubuntu are the same servers
[12:34] <sylsylsyl> amichair: that may be why my nick was already used ! lol
[12:53] <hart> where do i enable 5.1 sound in kubuntu
[12:53] <hart> it's stereo now
[12:53] <hart> cant hear center front
[12:55] <ArGGu^^> hart if you open mixer and go to Settings->Configure channels. You can chose the visible channels in mixer.
[12:56] <hart> ArGGu^^: i think my speaker is broken or something
[12:57] <ArGGu^^> hart you might need to set the player what you are using to use 5.1
[13:07] <Dyrcona> i updated kopete and libkopete from source because I wanted to apply an extra patch from bugs.kde.org.
[13:07] <Dyrcona> now, every time i run kpackagekit or whenever it makes a daily check for security updates, i get two stuck updates for kopete and libkopete.
[13:08] <Dyrcona> they won't install, of course, because they're already installed. it says something like this version of kopete is not an update for this version of kopete.
[13:09] <Dyrcona> my question is, how do I get the security updates for these two to stop trying to install? or how do I get the update software to realize that those versions are already installed?
[13:14] <sylsylsyl> Hi !
[13:15] <sylsylsyl> How can I install applications with Kubuntu Lucid ? There is a more user-friendly soft like gnome-app-install ?
[13:15] <Dyrcona> sylsylsyl: kpackagekit
[13:17] <sylsylsyl> Dyrcona : yes but it shows me packages, and I'd like to see software
[13:18] <sylsylsyl> Dyrcona : for example I search "gimp", and I have "gimp-data", "gimp-help", etc etc etc...
[13:18] <amichair> when copying files from an external usb drive to an internal hard disk (both NTFS), I get 'Could not change permissions...' popup warnings for each file copied... is this a bug?
[13:19] <Dyrcona> sylsylsyl: choose the main gimp package. it will install the others automatically.
[13:20] <sylsylsyl> Dyrcona : Yes yes I know how app installing and package dependencies work, It's just that I'd like to have the list of all apps available
[13:20] <Dyrcona> sysylsyl: you could always install gnome-app-install and just use that if you're more comfortable with it.
[13:21] <sylsylsyl> why not, but it won't use several gnome/gtk libraries ?
[13:22] <Dyrcona> sylsylsyl: kde and gnome work just fine side by side.
[13:24] <sylsylsyl> Dyrcona : yes, I used For about two years the three interfaces (GNOME/KDE/XFCE) side by side to compare, now I'd like to use KDE but I'd also like to find that ;) anyway i'm gonna try to install gnome-app-install and tell you if it doesn't install too much gtk soft
[13:24] <Dyrcona> what I want to know is why kubuntu keeps trying to install "updates" when the version it is trying to install is already installed.
[13:25]  * Dyrcona is thinking of giving gnome a shot.
[13:26] <sylsylsyl> :D
[13:29] <sylsylsyl> Dyrcona : hm.... the "gnome-app-install" package does not more exist on Lucid. But I use it on Xubuntu 10.04 on a laptop... what's its name now ?
[13:32] <sylsylsyl> Dyrcona : It seems to have been replaced by "software-center"... which requires 96 packages to install :/
[13:33] <henkka-> hi how can i listen to midi files with kubuntu
[13:33] <henkka-> ?
[13:34] <sylsylsyl> Dyrcona : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466292 (bringing back app-install in lucid)
[13:50] <Torch> henkka-: there's kmid2. i don't know if there are ubuntu packages of it, though.
[14:04] <mfraz74> I'm using the classic menu launcher set to use name only. This works OK apart from everything in Games which displays the description instead of the name. Is anyone else getting this?
[14:06] <ghostcube> anyone else noticing starnge behaviour for kdm and the kdm settings dialog in 4.5 beta2?
[14:06] <ghostcube> i cant change themes and i cant use any button when loging in to kdm
[14:07] <mfraz74> ghostcube: I've been manually editing the necessary file recently
[14:08] <ghostcube> .kdmrc?
[14:10] <mfraz74> ghostcube: yes
[14:10] <ghostcube> mfraz74: thx :)
[14:12] <henkka-> kmid2
[14:12] <henkka-> im using kubuntu.. is kmid2 for kubuntu? =)
[14:13] <mfraz74> ghostcube: would you like a copy of mine?
[14:16] <Torch> mfraz74: yes, same here.
[14:16] <ghostcube> mfraz74: later maybe not at my linux box here :)
[14:16] <mfraz74> ghostcube: ok, was thinking of putting it up on pastebin
[14:17] <ghostcube> are you later on here maybe i ping you
[14:17] <ghostcube> :)
[14:17] <mfraz74> torch: has it been mentioned anywhere?
[14:17] <mfraz74> ghostcube: i'm not sure
[14:17] <Torch> mfraz74: i don't know, but a bug report on bugs.kde.org is probably a good idea.
[14:17] <ghostcube> hmmm ok we'll see :) but thx for offering
[14:18] <Tesssa> join #ubuntu
[14:19] <Torch> Tesssa: with a "/" in front of the command and it works ;-)
[14:19] <Tesssa> i know
[14:19] <Tesssa> but thanks
[14:21] <Freyr> can i access ubuntu one music store from amarok ?
[14:21] <mfraz74> freyr: not that i know of
[14:23] <Freyr> "nice"
[14:23] <Tesssa> just upgraded my puter to a AMD64x6 thenom black it runs ok on 10.4 ubuntu with a nvidia 8000 series graphics board.Have heard problems with tyhe 9000 series graphics board anyone any informnation on that please
[14:24] <Tesssa> im hope to upgrade the graphics board
[14:25] <Tesssa> sorry phenom
[14:26] <mfraz74> what is the name of the classic menu?
[14:28] <Torch> mfraz74: still kickoff, but with a "traditional" added
[14:28] <mfraz74> torch: can't find it in bugs.kde.org
[14:29] <Torch> mfraz74: file the bug against plasma then
[14:33] <santosh> helo
[14:33] <santosh> ny1 der?
[14:34] <mfraz74> OK, I've submitted the bug.
[14:34] <mfraz74> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241736 feel free to add more information.
[14:37] <santosh> whats that bug about ?
[14:38] <pedza> hey :)
[14:38] <pedza> i need help!
[14:38] <pedza> ican't run the kubuntu liveusb without nomodeset
[14:38] <pedza> and when i do it works perfectly
[14:38] <mfraz74> santosh: the games section of the application launcher
[14:39] <pedza> but when i install it it either freezes when that disk thing loads
[14:39] <pedza> or it crashes to a completely black screen
[14:40] <santosh> pezda, is it showing to report bug wth black screen?
[14:40] <pedza> just a black screen
[14:40] <santosh> mfraz , i didnt understand , can you explain clearly
[14:40] <pedza> first it tells me that my ndswrapper isnt installed or what not but i think that that isnt anything related
[14:40] <santosh> am not ubuntu person, am kubuntu user , and i will try to help if i can
[14:40] <pedza> so am i
[14:41] <pedza> i have been using ubuntu until now though
[14:41] <santosh> pezda, when did black screen appeared ?
[14:41] <mfraz74> santosh: click the application launch button, go to games and i see all games listed under their description not their name
[14:41] <santosh> did u remember what u did before that
[14:41] <pedza> after the loading screen
[14:42] <pedza> no
[14:42] <pedza> i didnt do anything
[14:42] <pedza> but sometimes it gets to the login screen
[14:42] <santosh> mfraz, can u play those game ? , are they working
[14:42] <pedza> i log in and then it freezes when it gets to the disk
[14:43] <santosh> pezda, yeah i too had the same problem before
[14:43] <santosh> it happens after when we finish update and restart
[14:43] <BluesKaj> 'morning
[14:43] <pedza> but on the liveusb i fix that problem by doing nomodeset
[14:43] <pedza> what do i do after i install kubuntu?
[14:43] <santosh> after installing kubuntu
[14:43] <pedza> what can i do then?
[14:44] <pedza> yes
[14:44] <santosh> in terminal u run -  sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[14:44] <santosh> and try
[14:44] <santosh> hope it fixes ur problem
[14:44] <santosh> i too did the same and now it is ok for me
[14:47] <santosh> mfraz  u der?
[14:49] <pedza> hey
[14:49] <pedza> sorry
[14:49] <pedza> lost internet access
[14:49] <pedza> what did you say?
[14:49] <FloodBotK1> pedza: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <pedza> what should i have done?
[14:50] <pedza> how do you run nomodeset every time kubuntu boots???
[14:52] <santosh> sorry , i didnt know about nomodeset :-/
[14:52] <santosh> which version ob kubuntuyou are using
[14:52] <pedza> lucid
[14:52] <pedza> how did you fix your problem?
[14:53] <santosh> i had a problem when i updated and restarted, after login i hav got black screen to report bug
[14:54] <santosh> i hav upgraded by using -> sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[14:54] <santosh> in terminal
[14:54] <santosh> and restarted, nows its working well
[14:55] <pedza> aha
[14:55] <pedza> aptitude being?
[14:55] <pedza> that name is familiar lol
[14:55] <santosh> it upgrades to latest version of KDE 4.4.85 or 4.5
[14:55] <pedza> ok
[14:55] <Tesssa> just upgraded my puter to a AMD64x6 thenom black it runs ok on 10.4 ubuntu with a nvidia 8000 series graphics board.Have heard problems with tyhe 9000 series graphics board anyone any informnation on that please
[14:55] <santosh> run that command in terminal
[14:55] <santosh> sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[14:56] <pedza> ok
[14:56] <pedza> im gonna try that thx:D
[14:56] <santosh> let it complete upgrading, and after it finishes, restart your system and i wish it works fine
[14:56] <Dyrcona> while on the subject of aptitude....
[14:56] <Dyrcona> i have installed kopete version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu4.1 from the source package because I wanted to add a patch from bugs.kde.org
[14:57] <Dyrcona> ever since doing this, kpackagekit lists kopete version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu4.1 as a security update.
[14:57] <Dyrcona> when it tries to install, of course it fails.
[14:58] <Dyrcona> It actually tells me that the update could already be installed.
[14:58] <santosh> drycon, it means it has been installed on your system already
[14:58] <Dyrcona> right. i know it has been. i want it to stop trying to install it.
[14:59] <Dyrcona> the output for the version that I pasted above was copied from dpkg-query, so at some point the package system knows this version is installed.
[14:59] <Dyrcona> how do I get kpackagekit to recognize that fact?
[14:59] <santosh> oh ok, i donno how to stop , but i know how to remove kopete :P
[15:00] <santosh> Friends Iam not Kubuntu representative, am Kubuntu user only
[15:00] <Dyrcona> i don't wanna remove it. the patch fixes a bug for me with jabber servers.
[15:01] <Dyrcona> santosh: i think that can be said for most of us here.
[15:01] <santosh> which version of KDE u r using atpresent
[15:01] <Torch> Dyrcona: you applied the patch to the source, rebuilt the pacakge with that patch and installed that?
[15:02] <Dyrcona> torch: yes.
[15:03] <Dyrcona> Torch: I did it several weeks ago, but I did download the source package, applied the patch, and built the binary package from the patched source.
[15:03] <Torch> Dyrcona: simply blocking all security updates for good isn't such a great idea.
[15:03] <Torch> Dyrcona: the best thing to do would be to build a new patched package from the later version
[15:03] <bukayoo> Dyrcona: you could hold it or pin it
[15:03] <Dyrcona> Torch: it's the same version already!
[15:03] <santosh> i think its better to remove kopete , and once again install it from repositeries
[15:04] <Dyrcona> santosh: then kopete doesn't work for me. it disconnects from jaber every 5 minutes.
[15:04] <santosh> oh
[15:05] <bukayoo> Dyrcona: aptitude hold kopete && aptitude unmarkauto kopete
[15:06] <Dyrcona> bukayoo: thanks. I'll try that.
[15:07] <santosh> in KDE 4.5 Quickaccess Browser is not working :(
[15:08] <Torch> Dyrcona: be aware that you won't get any security updates for kopete any more if you pin the package to your current version. this is potentially dangerous and simply not "the right thing to do"
[15:08] <Dyrcona> Torch: Don't worry about me. "I know what I'm doing." ;)
[15:09] <Dyrcona> famous last words, right?
[15:09] <santosh> can anyone tell me how to change IP adress of my system on kubuntu
[15:09] <BluesKaj> Dyrcona, have you tried Konverse, the kde jabber client?
[15:09] <Dyrcona> now, what I don't get is why "it" was trying to update me to a version that was already installed?
[15:10] <Dyrcona> BluesKaj: no, haven't tried Konverse. I was using Kopete because I also use Yahoo! chat with some friends.
[15:10]  * Dyrcona did consider going back to using Psi.
[15:10] <santosh> you people can even use PIDGIN messenger
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Dyrcona,  ok
[15:11]  * Dyrcona tried Pidgin a year or two ago.
[15:11] <santosh> k
[15:12] <Dyrcona> I'm not a Linux/OSS newb, just a Kubuntu newb.
[15:13] <santosh> dyrcona, can u suggest any good antivirus for kubuntu, do we have problem of virus attacks on linux ?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> yahoo and linux chat clients don't mix well
[15:13] <BluesKaj> !virus
[15:14] <santosh> ok i will check it, thank u
[15:14] <Dyrcona> santosh: clamav is what I use to scan incoming email on my server. it works on files, too.
[15:14] <BluesKaj> as long asyou have your windows partition protected
[15:15] <Dyrcona> sanotsh: i mean, you can have it periodically scan files on disk if you're paranoid.
[15:15] <santosh> i donot have windows on my disc , i hate its Blue Screen of Death, which leaves no clue
[15:15] <santosh> dyrcona, ok i will try clamav
[15:16] <santosh> blueskaj, ok fine thank you
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Dyrcona, there are a few linux trojans around , but they are mostly setup to install on enterprise systems
[15:19] <santosh> i have install clamav , but i cannot see in my applications list
[15:19] <santosh> what shall i do
[15:19] <BluesKaj> santosh, Dyrcona , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
[15:22] <santosh> blues , yeah then how can we protect ourselves from malware
[15:23] <Dyrcona> santosh: don't run it. ;)
[15:23] <santosh> dyrcona , i didnt understand
[15:24] <santosh> what shouldnt i run?
[15:24] <Dyrcona> santosh: don't run malware programs.
[15:24] <santosh> yeah ok
[15:24] <spirov92> hi, is there some tool for battery diagnostics? it's an old compaq laptop, the battery claims to be loaded, but if I unplug the charger it dies
[15:24] <santosh> i hav installed CLAMAV , but i cannot find it in applications list, how can i fix it
[15:25] <Dyrcona> santosh: that's beyond me.... what happens if you run freshclam from the command line?
[15:26] <santosh> can u tell me command to run in terminal
[15:27] <Dyrcona> just run freshclam. you should get something on the terminal even if it isn't installed.
[15:27] <spirov92> santosh: as he said, run the command freshclam
[15:27] <santosh> ok
[15:27] <Dyrcona> you could also try clamscan --version
[15:28] <santosh> ok
[15:33] <Torch> spirov92: look in /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info
[15:33] <vi390> hi, Iam connection with dolphin via sftp to another server. On every request Dolphin asks me for the private key passphrase and also prompts for the server password. The pwds are allready in the field so I have only to click. But its still anoyying. Is there a way that dolphin does not prompt for pwd at this point?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> vi390, afraid not , it's for your protection
[15:36] <vi390> BluesKaj, hmm, in Gnome I did not have this problem somehow. Can I maybe use another Filemanager to solve that?
[15:36] <vi390> BluesKaj, you just can not work to long in such conditions, there is to much overhead of clicks
[15:38] <Torch> vi390: it should ask _once_ and then remember the password for the application's run time. if it asks on every file transfer or operation, something's wrong
[15:39] <vi390> Torch, ok, than I asume something is wrong, maybe. It asks when I change Directories on the remote site, and even after some idle time
[15:40] <vi390> hmm, wrong. But what!?
[15:40] <Torch> vi390: can you ssh into the server without problems?
[15:40] <spirov92> Torch: thanks, it seems it's not BAT0, it's C135, I'll see if I can figure out what's wrong with it :)
[15:40] <vi390> Torch, yes
[15:41] <ilumi> in the 10.10 alpha, i have a double task bar, is that a feature or what?
[15:41] <vi390> Torch, it even works in Gnome
[15:41] <spirov92> damn...I thought the battery is dead, and now it's working without power...let's see how long it lasts
[15:58] <mikau_> Hi guys! I'm looking for a way to change the notification (the popup with things like new messages and file transfers etc) style in 10.04. I know that it is possible, since I've stumbled over it in an earlier release, but can't find it now :/
[15:58] <mfraz74> what do you want to change?
[15:59] <mikau_> the apperance of it, there should be a style more like the notify-osd style used in ubuntu
[16:00] <mfraz74> Try looking on omgubuntu
[16:01] <BluesKaj> mikau_, system settings/notifications
[16:02] <mfraz74> or ubuntugeek, I'm sure I was something on there.
[16:02] <mikau_> BluesKaj: Been there a thousands of times, can't find the setting there
[16:04] <mfraz74> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/09/install-notify-osd-kubuntu.html
[16:06] <mfraz74> http://kristofkiszel.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/notifications-in-kubuntu-10-04/
[16:06] <mikau_> mfraz74: yes, problem being that dialog doesn't look the same in 10.04, it jsut has a couple of checkboxes for what to notify about
[16:06] <mfraz74> mikau_: if you go to the second url, it says that option was removed
[16:07] <mikau_> yeah, noticed just after I sent that message, checking now :)
[16:08] <BluesKaj> yeah , no such option in lucid
[16:09] <mfraz74> wish the notifications would clear automatically after a certain amount of time rather than just stacking up
[16:11] <mikau_> think I've got it set up now, thanks a bunch guys :)
[16:11] <mfraz74> mikau_: no probs, thought I'd read something about it recently
[16:12] <mikau_> mfraz74: that proved it aswell, awesome :) yet again thanks
[16:13] <JackStoner> Hey, having a weird thing happening when i open an app (mostly vlc), it opens another small window with no description, why is this?
[16:18] <spirov92> so...it seems my battery is magically back to life, but I see a bug. after a few minutes on battery power, the display is dimmed to like 5% brightness
[16:19] <spirov92> I also notice that the brightness slider in the battery applet is set way down every time I open it. could it be related?
[16:21] <spirov92> ah, in the power options I see "dim display when idle for..."...maybe it's not noticing my activity? I'll try that
[16:34] <bradpitt> hi. i just installed kubuntu lucid, and after installing nvidia driver i type sudo nvidia-xconfig and kdesudo nvidia-settings, but it won't let me to save xconfig. what did i miss?
[16:36] <bradpitt> " Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing. "
[16:41] <spirov92> hi...so I'm seeing a weird bug on an old laptop. after about 10 minutes on battery power the display is dimmed. I've disabled the "dim display when idle" option
[16:42] <spirov92> I am sure it still shows 100% in the battery monitor applet when it's dimmed, and before that I don't see anything weird. any ideas?
[16:47] <spirov92> hmm...the brightness keys (Fn+F6/F7) don't seem to be working
[16:49] <Dyrcona> spirov92: did you try those without the Fn key depressed?
[17:15] <cedvanes> -_-'
[17:20] <jhambo> Is it possible to get korganizer to show the full event titles in the calendar?? it's not very usefull to look at a calender with lots of entries like "10:55 pm Meet..." and "8:00 am submit..."!
[17:32] <daedaluz> today I've realized that I finally genuinely prefer Linux over Windows, thanks to KDE 4.4
[17:55] <the_madman> Lo everyone.
[17:56] <the_madman> There used to be a section in System Settings for configuring policykit.
[17:56] <BluesKaj> hilo :)
[17:56] <the_madman> But I've looked for it, and it's run away somewhere. Is there any way to get it back? :S
[18:03] <diana1480> my cdrom drive just never mounts properly and if I run mount /media/cdrom0 the light never comes on and after about 20 seconds I get mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
[18:13] <DarthFrog> diana1480:  It sounds as if your cd drive data cable might have come loose.
[18:14] <DarthFrog> Unless you're trying to mount a blank cd. :-)
[18:56] <slow-motion> hi
[19:17] <od_> hi *
[19:20] <n8w> hey
[19:20] <n8w> is it possible to install lightning on 64bit kubuntu?
[19:21] <n8w> it seems that its only for 32bit
[19:31] <zack_> arkadaslar merhaba ben kubuntu kullanıyorum ekran kartımın hangı surucuyle calıstıgını ve 3b dstegı olup olmadıgını nasıl gorebılıyoruz
[19:46] <_Wise_> was that rot13 ?
[19:47] <Pici> Looks like Turkish to me.
[19:48] <_Wise_> ah ok :)
[19:48] <_Wise_> (sorry zack_)
[20:35] <term_oldcomp1> ? question: attempting to share a folder with a win98se machine. however it's getting a "share name not found" error when it tries to connect to it. how to fix it pls?
[20:57] <Eltanin> OMG!!
[21:03] <BooVeMan> Hi. I'm with kubuntu 10.01 with all patches and ever so often the taskbar will stop arranging my programs so that some buttons are one above another or if I extend the system area buttons slide behind the pager
[21:04] <BooVeMan> anone has seen this behaivior or know a way to fix it?
[22:20] <adnyxo> hello, i need some help with my fresh kubuntu install. i have an nvidia graphics card, and i installed the restricted drivers using the included utility. when i restarted, i was presented with a command line login. when attempting to startx, it says that there are no display. can anyone give me some suggestions?
[22:36] <Miles1> Hi, I just install ubuntu, and I'm having some graphics issues, a buddy told me to download mesa utils.... and thats as far as I got because he left v.v
[22:36] <BooVeMan> Hi. I'm with kubuntu 10.01 with all patches applied and ever so often the taskbar will stop arranging my programs so that some buttons are one above another or if I extend the system area buttons slide behind the pager. Anyone has seen this behavior or know a way to fix it?
[22:39] <Miles1> alright then
[22:45] <ybit> i'm looking for the kde equivalent of gwibber which allows to keep up with your social networking sites like twitter and facebook...
[22:46] <ybit> is choqok what i'm looking for... installing it now...
[22:49] <ybit> hrm... it only does twitter and other micro-blogging sites... but not facebook...
[22:49] <ybit> is there some type of micro-blogging widget
[22:49] <ybit> i'd rather not switch between a desktop widget and program..
[22:51] <ybit> hrm...
[22:52] <ybit> ublog.. any documentation on getting it to work with twitter?
[22:53] <slow-motion> n8
[23:21] <zentraedi> Hola buenas tardes
[23:22] <zentraedi> Hi,help plase ?


[08:19] <danilos> Ursinha, happy birthday you old lady :)
[08:31] <danilos> gary_poster, sorry, I was already out by the time you sent your messages; I am fine with your changes, and I am certain you looked for all the callsites to ensure you ain't breaking anything ;)
[08:32] <danilos> Ursinha, (and sorry, that seems to be only tomorrow, Aug is a 31 day affair :))
[11:35]  * danilos -> switching locations
[12:12] <gary_poster> danilos, thanks.  And the fact that you use "ain't" continues to amuse me. :-)
[12:31] <gary_poster> bac benji gmb danilos, call in 1
[12:31] <bac> gary_poster: we need to get danilos to NC to work on his accent now that he has the grammar down
[12:31] <gary_poster> true :-)
[12:34] <danilos> gary_poster, hi, sorry for being late
[12:43] <bac> gary_poster: it looks like i must reference your approval to deploy the AMI in the RT.  do i have it?
[12:44] <gary_poster> uh.  yes, bac?  deploy where, out of curiosity?  I meant to ask about the RT on the call
[12:44] <bac> gary_poster: As per https://dev.launchpad.net/EC2Test/Image I'm requesting a
[12:44] <bac> > corresponding update the PQM / lpbuildbot / production to use this image:
[12:44] <gary_poster> ah right
[12:44] <bac> quoting jtv in the original rt
[12:45] <gary_poster> except then StevenK said that this is unnecessary, right?
[12:45] <gary_poster> I think it is not a matter of using the image but matching the image
[12:45] <gary_poster> which in this case just means updating launchpad-dev
[12:45] <bac> where is steven's comment?
[12:46] <gary_poster> bac, in mail, looking
[12:47] <bac> oh, nm, i see it.  in a different mbox
[12:48] <bac> ok, now i understand.
[15:59] <Ursinha> danilos: thanks :)
[18:18] <bac> hurrah, i got the damn recipe build oops
[20:05] <benji> gary_poster: I've hit an impass on bug 829210 and intend on performing the "push it forward as far as you can and then go on to something else" maneuver.  (This is your chance to stop me.) ;)
[20:05] <_mup_> Bug #829210: Error displayed when I subscribe someone else <regression> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/829210 >
[20:05] <gary_poster> benji, heh, cool.
[20:07] <gary_poster> benji, yeah, if you can't dupe except by pulling Apache down, I'm not sure what you could do.  I guess you could retry, but your proposed approach would sound more appealing to me too.
[20:08] <benji> yep
[20:35] <bac> lp2kanban rocks now
[21:15] <bac> is dell still shipping with ubuntu?  i couldn't find anything and dell.com/ubuntu is not helpful.
[21:27]  * bac waves bye
[22:29] <gary_poster> bye


[08:12] <francis[m]> what should i look at if i wanted to know more about how to convert debs to snap?
[08:13] <francis[m]> https://github.com/mikix/deb2snap looks as abandoned


[22:39] <mup> PR snapd#3575 opened: Show labels for built-in interfaces <Created by robert-ancell> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3575>


[00:07] <james> Hello
[00:08] <Guest88593> So, eh, I'm kinda having audio desync problems on the RPi3 release of Mate.
[00:09] <Guest88593> I just fixed it so that it would play audio through my HDMI so yeah
[00:09] <Guest88593> It's desync on Youtube, anyways
[12:54] <kaleb> dick
[12:56] <koa> So i found this..
[12:57] <Guest76134> So now being known as guest what is this place!?
[12:58] <koa_> Woo
[12:58] <diogenes_> Guest76134, and previously you was known as?
[12:58] <sixwheeledbeast> IRC
[12:58] <koa_> My name went back to Koa, it should be fine for now.
[12:59] <koa_> We are using the rasperryPi's for random stuff in class and i stumbled across this.
[13:00] <diogenes_> omg, this is an entire plague with PIs, they have almost taken over the world
[13:00] <koa_> Save yourselves!!
[13:00] <koa_> D:
[13:02] <koa_> So how is everyone on this fine morning?
[13:02] <diogenes_> so far so good
[13:02] <diogenes_> what about you?
[13:04] <koa_> Pretty alright myself, exploring Firefox for the first time. usually i use Chrome for everything.
[13:04] <mate|68664> hello
[13:04] <mate|68664> HELLOOOOOOOOO
[13:04] <diogenes_> mate|68664, hello
[13:05] <mate|68664> holiwi
[13:05] <mate|68664> HOLAAAA PO
[13:05] <mate|68664> how are you?
[13:08] <koa_> :p
[13:17] <koa_> So does this place get a lot of traffic chat wise?
[13:18] <koa_> Nuuu, my only friend!
[13:29] <koa_> Another question, is this only isolate for the raspberry pi?
[13:36] <alumno__> los negro piaaaaaaaa
[19:07] <hp> hello
[19:19] <ubergoose> Rnr
[19:25] <nimeta> hi
[20:01] <swift110> hey all


 Anyone got a recommended space for manual partitioning? Wanted to install on a 250gb SSD
[04:15] <utkojhamela> IrcsomeBot: <YesEyeCan> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1320204/the-recommended-space-to-ubuntu-os
[04:15] <utkojhamela> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1036457/recommended-size-in-percentage-for-each-partition-ubuntu-18-04
[04:31] <utkojhamela> IrcsomeBot: <YesEyeCan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace
[04:31] <utkojhamela> It is up to user in the end.
 Thanks
[09:18] <pick> IrcsomeBot: have to decide whether you will multi boot, in which case you may need a larger /boot partition than suggested.
[09:21] <pick> I generally put /home and /data on separate partitions and find 64GB is plenty for the rest of /
[09:23] <pick> However this may be old-fashioned; the new file systems might make this unnecessary.
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 Hello
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 I don't know why the captcha has to be that difficult...it makes absolutely no sense
 I don't think it's a bad idea.
 separated partitions help to keep data even on new partitioning process or for example when taking snapshots
 also it's recommend to mount /var or other directories which will be used to write and wipe more often on spinning disks (and for btrfs on separated subvolumes) (re @IrcsomeBot: <pick> However this may be old-fashioned; the new file systems might make this unnecessary.)
 Ever since 23.04....ive been running into bugs
 Latte dock also keeps crashing
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 @d3vious6 That makes sense. Latte dock was abandoned upstream.
 Hello! Excuse me, what programs do you use to scan documents from Kubuntu?
 I'm trying Skalite but it doesn't seem to obey my resolution commands.
[18:34] <josh_> hey ladies
 Any alternatives? (re @Eickmeyer: @d3vious6 That makes sense. Latte dock was abandoned upstream.)
 As far as I'm aware, it wasn't forked or picked-up. There are other docks, though, such as plank. You can also configure the default panel to act like a dock. You might search the web though, but there are no KDE projects for docks currently. (re @d3vious6: Any alternatives?)
 Alright thank you (re @Eickmeyer: As far as I'm aware, it wasn't forked or picked-up. There are other docks, though, such as plank. You can also configure the default panel to act like a dock. You might search the web though, but there are no KDE projects for docks currently.)
 Do you have an idea of how to completely remove latte dock.....I've tried (re @Eickmeyer: As far as I'm aware, it wasn't forked or picked-up. There are other docks, though, such as plank. You can also configure the default panel to act like a dock. You might search the web though, but there are no KDE projects for docks currently.)
 For some reason.....it does not completely leave the system even with sudo apt remove latte-docl
 sudo apt purge latte-dock ?
 That should remove configs.
 You might even try looking in .config for anything related to latte.