[04:51] <pixiedust> strange problem suddenly repository relating to ffmpeg and libav-tools and avconv seem broken.
[04:52] <pixiedust> tried to fix and the kubuntu desktop is now itself broken. what the best way to resolve this?
[06:40] <valorie> !info alsamixer
[06:41] <valorie> WHY?
[06:41] <valorie> grrrr
[06:42] <Unit193> valorie: alsa-utils: /usr/bin/alsamixer
[06:44] <valorie> thanks, Unit193
[06:44] <valorie> I'm trying to get both hangouts and my usb headset working simultaneously
[06:45] <valorie> so far, no luck
[06:48] <valorie> Unit193: paste.kde.org/pkuortijx
[06:49] <valorie> doesn't work in krunner either
[06:50] <Unit193> valorie: alsa-utils is the package, /usr/bin/alsamixer is the binary.  Tried pavucontrol (if using pulse)?
[06:50] <valorie> yes, I've been googling for a half hour
[06:51] <valorie> all I could get to start alsa-wise, was the alphamixergui which is a steaming pile
[06:52] <valorie> alsa-utils is installed but I can't seem to get it to start
[06:53] <valorie> I'm about to make an executive decision that the meeting has to take place in irc
[07:17] <valorie> Unit193: got the headphones working, at least
[07:17] <valorie> switched to the phonon-backend-vlc
[07:18] <Unit193> Well that's one thing.
[07:18] <valorie> pgst is turning into a headache
[07:18] <Unit193> Right, thought I heard about problems with the gst backend.
[09:28] <Guest90499> bonjour à tous
[10:31] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:57] <hubelibub> morning
[10:57] <lordievader> o/
[12:16] <MichaelH> hi
[12:17] <MichaelH> I'm having wirelssprobelms with Kubuntu 14
[12:17] <MichaelH> sometimes it just goes offline with the unability to scan for wireless networks
[12:21] <BluesKaj> MichaelH, which wifi chip and does iwlist scan show any other "cells" available?
[12:21] <Michael_Kubuntu1> BluesKaj: will check now
[12:22] <Michael_Kubuntu1> nothing about cells
[12:22] <Michael_Kubuntu1> Usage: iwlist [interface] scanning [essid NNN] [last]               [interface] frequency                [interface] channel                [interface] bitrate                [interface] rate                [interface] encryption                [interface] keys                [interface] power                [interface] txpower                [interface] retry                [interface] ap                [interface] access
[12:22] <Michael_Kubuntu1> (sorry, should have used some paste website )
[12:23] <BluesKaj> the command is ' iwlist scan '
[12:23] <BluesKaj> without the quotes
[12:23] <Michael_Kubuntu1> http://pastebin.com/X52K8QQS
[12:23] <Michael_Kubuntu1> That's what I get
[12:24] <BluesKaj> is ESSID:"Mech Plus" yours?
[12:25] <Michael_Kubuntu1> that's the one I need to connect to
[12:25] <Michael_Kubuntu1> so yes
[12:26] <Michael_Kubuntu1> Right now I'm connected to it, but it drops out & My PC will be un able to see any other networks
[12:26] <Michael_Kubuntu1> while my phone next to the PC can see at least 3+ netwroks (including the one above)
[12:26] <Michael_Kubuntu1> (so it's not a wireless router problem for sure)
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Michael_Kubuntu1, which wifi chip?
[12:29] <Michael_Kubuntu1> Vendor : Qualcomm Atheros (is that it ? )
[12:29] <Michael_Kubuntu1> Product : AR922X Wireless Network Adapter
[12:30] <rootcoder> ls
[12:30] <rootcoder> ls -la
[12:30] <rootcoder> exit
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Michael_Kubuntu1, odd that's usually a pretty reliable driver/connection
[12:31] <rootcoder> Good jb, Cononical!
[12:32] <Michael_Kubuntu1> BluesKaj: It was when I was running windows
[12:32] <Michael_Kubuntu1> (not that I regret leaving windows, just making a note :D  )
[12:33] <Michael_Kubuntu1> BluesKaj: it will take some time before the wirless drops, so may I get your help with few other things. This is a fresh Kubuntu install & need to get it ready for work ASAP.
[12:33] <Michael_Kubuntu1> 1- I need to remove OpenJDK
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Michael_Kubuntu1, so does your wifi drop out on kubuntu, or just windows?
[12:35] <Michael_Kubuntu1> BluesKaj: Note : I had this wireless problem with this Kubuntu & Mint KDE 15 .. I restarted few times with no luck.
[12:36] <Michael_Kubuntu1> but before this final retsart, i switched to exiting windows install then back to linkx & wirless seems to work !
[12:37] <Michael_Kubuntu1> I also had problem with  apt-get on kubuntu whilre trying to un-install openjdk  but it only stopped giving errors AFTER I swtiched to windows & back to linux ... this is tripping me out !
[12:37] <Michael_Kubuntu1> while *
[12:38] <Michael_Kubuntu1> BluesKaj: in short, the wirless problem only on Linux (Kubuntu 14 &  mint KDE 15)
[12:39] <Michael_Kubuntu1> & seems to work for the time being ....
[12:39] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: problems like this can be either with the driver or the wireless adapter's firmware included with the kernel
[12:40] <dodger> what kernel are you on (run uname -a from the terminal to find out)?
[12:40] <Michael_Kubuntu1> Linux kubuntu14lts-pc 3.13.0-24-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 2 23:30:00 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:41] <Michael_Kubuntu1> using the default Kubuntu
[12:41] <dodger> this is on 14.04?
[12:41] <Michael_Kubuntu1> yes
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Michael_Kubuntu1, sounds like the ath9k driver is unloading, try sudo modprobe ath9k
[12:41] <dodger> BluesKaj: good catch, that could be it
[12:42] <BluesKaj> dodger, dunno why it would tho
[12:42] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: you can find out by running "lsmod | grep ath" once your wifi connection drops out; if that outputs nothing, the drives is no longer running
[12:42] <Michael_Kubuntu1> ok, tried that .. I will keep an eye on it to see if the wirless will drop
[12:42] <Michael_Kubuntu1> ty guys :)
[12:42] <dodger> if the driver is still running, you can try to reload it with
[12:42] <Michael_Kubuntu1> This is very nice support to have .. for a new person to linux
[12:43] <dodger> sudo rmmod ath9k && sudo modprobe ath9k
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Michael_Kubuntu1, to load the driver just run the modprobe command , if it loads there won't be any output
[12:44] <dodger> some wireless devices still have problems, though that number gets smaller with every release; i haven't had trouble with networking for the last 3 or 4 years :)
[12:44] <dodger> but there's still hardware every once in a while that doesn't quite work
[12:44] <Michael_Kubuntu1> Notes.. I'm keeping a change log &  error/solution report to use late .. will add these commands now :)
[12:45] <BluesKaj> i had more probs with W7 BCM wifi than with kubuntu
[12:45] <Michael_Kubuntu1> I had this hardware for a while, so it may be it ... I will see after few tests..
[12:45] <dodger> BluesKaj: i've been having more trouble with windows generally, which is why i don't use it anymore :P
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Michael_Kubuntu1, good practice :) I've been doing the same for yrs now
[12:46] <Michael_Kubuntu1> dodger: last time I used windows was like 4 month ago .. only use it in a VM to run Photoshop & Illustrator
[12:46] <Michael_Kubuntu1> I'm Web & Graphic Designer BTW
[12:47] <Michael_Kubuntu1> so much fun with linux .. al these commands & working in an invironment as close as possible to production server helps alot
[12:47] <BluesKaj> I keep windows around to keep my hand in for wife's sake
[12:47] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: cool, that's what I went to school for :)
[12:48] <Michael_Kubuntu1> I got my diploma at Web development & DB development ... studied from home ... always felt I knew more then the teachers  !
[12:48] <dodger> at some point I decided I like programming better, so now I'm a programmer :P
[12:49] <dodger> there are a couple of old bugs on launchpad relating to connection loss with that wifi adapter, btw
[12:49] <Michael_Kubuntu1> web applications or somet hing things ..?
[12:49] <Michael_Kubuntu1> I'm looking for an App developer
[12:49] <Michael_Kubuntu1> for smartphones
[12:49] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: video games, professionally, and pretty much anything privately
[12:50] <Michael_Kubuntu1> cool. TBH, I'm trying to create an online team to work togeather & just develop fun projects & maybe sell these projects later
[12:51] <Michael_Kubuntu1> I have few things I want to do .. new CMS based on Yii or Symfony framemworks (php frameworks)
[12:51] <Michael_Kubuntu1> & a linux  file / Project  manage
[12:52] <BluesKaj> just installed some new RAM in a seniors center pc to handle Kubuntu 14.04 that had been running XP . The manager was very worried about no more windows updates so we installed Kubuntu, So far so good/
[12:53] <Michael_Kubuntu1> xp ... I heard of it befoew :p
[12:53] <dodger> BluesKaj: most people love it if they can just wrap their heads around it being different from what they're used to
[12:53] <Michael_Kubuntu1> before *
[12:53] <dodger> any new install for someone i prefix with 'be patient, you'll have to relearn some stuff'
[12:53] <Michael_Kubuntu1> my grandma used to tell me stories about xp
[12:54] <BluesKaj> <--- is a grandpa
[12:54] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: I guess that makes me old :P  95 was the first windows I ever did serious work on
[12:54] <Michael_Kubuntu1> BluesKaj:  haha
[12:54]  * dodger is too
[12:55] <Michael_Kubuntu1> i'm 23 .. not that young
[12:55] <dodger> i've got a decade or two on you there :P
[12:56] <Michael_Kubuntu1> I've been between windows 7 & linux for a while.. but after I saw win8 I knew I have to find something else or leave the IT world becasue if win8 was the top OS then to hell with Technology (same direction as win8)
[12:56] <dodger> seems like the connection dropout problem has been happening on and off with that adapter, Michael_Kubuntu1
[12:56] <dodger> is this on a laptop or a desktop?
[12:56] <Michael_Kubuntu1> desktop
[12:56] <Michael_Kubuntu1> current setup doesnt allow for cabel to be running .. that will change soon
[12:57] <BluesKaj> dongle or wifi nic ?
[12:57] <dodger> if it keeps happening, you might want to consider picking up a different adapter; here's a guide to which ones work best
[12:57] <dodger> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[12:57] <Michael_Kubuntu1> ty, now a question for experts in compuster world
[12:58] <Michael_Kubuntu1> how do you organize you DATA .. Perosnal Projects, Clients Projectct, Client details .. payments, bills, files .....
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Michael_Kubuntu1, are you going to replace openjdk with something else ?
[12:59] <Michael_Kubuntu1> so much Datab to be saved & I'm sick of folders .. I need to be able to descripe my folders & data & create Categories/groups
[12:59] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: projects usually on a file system level, people's details in kontact, and payments/bills through my online banking website :P
[12:59] <Michael_Kubuntu1> BluesKaj: Yes, want Oracle Java JDK
[13:00] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: with the KDE indexing functions, that sort of thing becomes much easier
[13:01] <dodger> Baloo (previously Nepomuk) - being able to tag files and folders, associate the pieces of data with each other and then search for them is really nice
[13:02] <Michael_Kubuntu1> dodger: My Projects break into groups, Web, Graphics, Hosting & login details, Project Notes, Project Change Log, Project Requirements & Plans  ...
[13:02] <Michael_Kubuntu1> thats alonepossible for "one client"
[13:02] <dodger> since they're all related, just tagging the files in dolphin would probably go a long way
[13:02] <Michael_Kubuntu1> so Tagging & commenting on files would be one greate feature .. also keeping a task list for each project ..
[13:03] <Michael_Kubuntu1> does that Tag Data get stored in the folder or in some differnt location .. incase I install a new system
[13:03] <dodger> For organizing random collections of data and ideas, I still love Basket, even though it's a bit outdated now
[13:04] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: the data gets stored in a separate database
[13:04] <dodger> that's searchable by KDE applications
[13:04] <dodger> for example, you can tag files with a 'Project 1' tag, then search for that tag in dolphin or KRunner
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Michael_Kubuntu1, check this out, it involves installing a ppa in your sources.list, but the procedure is pretty clear, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/oracle-java-installer-conflicting-with.html
[13:05] <dodger> or even put a shortcut to that tag search into the places bar of the KDE file selector
[13:08] <Michael_Kubuntu1> dodger: will check that out .. & hope it works with Krusador File manager :)
[13:08] <dodger> i use that feature a lot, i've got a couple of quickaccess widgets with my most common searches in the panel
[13:08] <Michael_Kubuntu1> Krusader
[13:10] <Michael_Kubuntu1> I wish there is like a Linux  Framework  to develop quick  Software with nice UI
[13:10] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: I dig python with PyQt for small projects
[13:11] <dodger> I'm a C++ guy at heart, but for small apps, Python is very quick to get up and running
[13:11] <dodger> although dynamic typing still makes me cringe
[13:12] <Michael_Kubuntu1> will try it.. I read about it but I guess it's time to really test it & see what I can do
[13:12] <Michael_Kubuntu1> now I'm on linux .. I can do anything :)
[13:12] <Michael_Kubuntu1> Quick question: will ie be the correct language to build a basic File manager with DB to store FIles Notes/tags ?
[13:13] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: there's no such thing as a 'correct language' :P
[13:14] <dodger> if you want to build something like that, i'd recommend using the KDE frameworks so you can integrate it with the existing tagging and annotation functionality
[13:14] <Michael_Kubuntu1> well, It wont be like trying to use PHP to create a file manager & do everything through a browser .. it wont be good as I cant associate file tipes with programs + anything I click will be like a "download"
[13:14] <dodger> I'm not sure what the state of that with python is
[13:14] <dodger> you might want to pop into #kubuntu-devel to get more information :)
[13:15] <Michael_Kubuntu1> 1st question : does it have to be acces through browser or can be used to program stand alone software ?
[13:15] <dodger> yeah, for a file manager I'd do a standalone app
[13:15] <dodger> doesn't mean you can't do it in JavaScript, for example ;)
[13:16] <dodger> but people more familiar with the KDE frameworks could likely give you better information about that than myself
[13:18] <Michael_Kubuntu1> dodger: ty :)  now.. I need a game that I can only hack :D
[13:18] <Michael_Kubuntu1> never asked, what games have you worked on ?
[13:19] <dodger> quite a few... Madden, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, Bioshock 2, and a few others
[13:19] <dodger> sometimes I think I've been doing this for too long
[13:19] <Michael_Kubuntu1> is it good pay ?
[13:20] <dodger> i'm certainly not complaining
[13:20] <Michael_Kubuntu1> :) & when did you 1st start doing programming  & 1st read "programming" work .. if you dont mind me asking
[13:21] <Michael_Kubuntu1> 1st real *
[13:21] <dodger> oh god... my first contact with programming was in CPM-Basic about 30 years ago
[13:21] <Michael_Kubuntu1> how old were you !
[13:21] <dodger> 9 :P
[13:22] <dodger> my dad worked at Siemens and brought home what they then called a portable computer
[13:22] <dodger> which meant 3x1x5 ft and 400lbs
[13:22] <Michael_Kubuntu1> so portable .. on a truck :D
[13:22] <dodger> 2 people could maneuver it :P
[13:23] <dodger> it came on rollers
[13:23] <Michael_Kubuntu1> so u 39 :)
[13:23] <dodger> 40, actually
[13:23] <dodger> i said 'about' :P
[13:24] <Michael_Kubuntu1> was trying to be nice & rounded down :)
[13:24] <Michael_Kubuntu1> plus the "9" sells better
[13:24] <dodger> at some point you just stop counting ;)
[13:26] <Michael_Kubuntu1> BluesKaj: btw, ty for that link .. saved me so much time
[13:26] <BluesKaj> np Michael_Kubuntu1, hope it's what you need
[13:27] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: seems your wifi connection is pretty stable now :)
[13:28] <Michael_Kubuntu1> it's always that way.. stable untill it crashes
[13:28] <Michael_Kubuntu1> but when.. who knows
[13:28] <Michael_Kubuntu1> hope never
[13:28] <dodger> yeah, but it hasn't disconnected in the last 30 minutes or so :)
[13:28] <Michael_Kubuntu1> it normally takes few hours between crashes
[13:29] <dodger> oh, well here's hoping it stays up :)
[13:29] <Michael_Kubuntu1> btw, I'm having fun creating so called "Portab;e Software"  I made a  SSD Partition with Linux Software that doesnt require install .. Including my IDE Neatbeans & XMind (mapping + Charts tool)
[13:30] <BluesKaj> gparted?
[13:30] <dodger> you could image that to a USB stick and have a portable development environment :)
[13:30] <Michael_Kubuntu1> usb is too slow
[13:30] <Michael_Kubuntu1> but I do keep impostant software on USB for wuick start incase of PC crash
[13:30] <dodger> 3.0 is pretty snappy, but not too wide spread yet, yes
[13:30] <Michael_Kubuntu1> important
[13:32] <dodger> I just recently set up two-factor authentication for my encrypted partition on my laptop, keeping the ecryptfs key on a tiny USB stick on my keychain
[13:32] <BluesKaj> i have porteus3 on a stick , and impressed my bandmates with it,.,,they're all windows 8.1 users
[13:32] <dodger> but since it's an 8GB stick I'm going to make it bootable and put a kubuntu install on it
[13:33] <Michael_Kubuntu1> Nice .. soon I will be looking ta making a USB with Kubuntu + Persistant install
[13:34] <BluesKaj> but i really wowed them with kubuntu using the desktop cube etc
[13:34] <dodger> this just blows my mind BTW
[13:34] <dodger> http://goo.gl/Muw082
[13:34] <dodger> 8GB on that
[13:34] <Michael_Kubuntu1> I only wish there is like a "Snap Shot"  feature to the Persistant install like I do with VMware .. to revert back fast.
[13:34] <dodger> the kid that was playing with the monstrous 'portable computer' back in the days just doesn't want to believe it
[13:35] <Michael_Kubuntu1> dodger: :) I would get a USB SSD & make it portable
[13:36] <Michael_Kubuntu1> it's about the same price as USB flash drive  .. nearly $1 per 1 GB  here in AU
[13:36] <dodger> yeah, that stick is about $6 US
[13:36] <dodger> that stuff has become so cheap it's unreal
[13:36] <Michael_Kubuntu1> still expensive when you get 500GBN +
[13:36] <dodger> i remember the first hard drive i had for my Atari ST was 20MBytes and cost $500
[13:37] <Michael_Kubuntu1> damn ..
[13:37] <BluesKaj> too much junky usb stuff out there tho, did 4 writes to 16G stick and it crapped out
[13:38] <dodger> BluesKaj: yeah, the cheap NAND is nothing you'd want critical stuff on
[13:38] <Michael_Kubuntu1> BluesKaj: its good to use a trusted brands .. not as if other companies are much cheaper
[13:38] <dodger> i keep the key on a second USB stick for safety :P
[13:38] <dodger> but having something so tiny on your keychain and being able to boot an entire OS from it is pretty darn cool
[13:39] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:39] <Michael_Kubuntu1> true that
[13:40] <Michael_Kubuntu1> is there a lighter version of KDE ? so like Light Kubuntu without the too many effects ?
[13:40] <Michael_Kubuntu1> or manye it's just a config change ? need to test it
[13:41] <dodger> you can turn off compositing altogether with alt+shift+F12
[13:41] <Michael_Kubuntu1> I noticed that in Kubuntu, attached media goes under  /media/Username/MediaName .. was it before just  under /media/Medianame ?
[13:41] <dodger> but today, even anemic GPUs should be fast enough to run it
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Michael_Kubuntu1, you can setup fewer desktop effects in syatem settings if you wish, but on most newer machines there won't be much speed benefit
[13:42] <Michael_Kubuntu1> BluesKaj: it's more for a os on USB .. less files to load ?
[13:43] <Michael_Kubuntu1> With time, I may play around with Linux to load the ISO & Persistant files into ram then work on the os
[13:43] <dodger> Michael_Kubuntu1: the desktop effects won't really make much of a difference there; if you want to increase boot speed, there are other options to do that ;)
[13:43] <BluesKaj> Michael_Kubuntu1, well that also depends on the host machine's HW
[13:44] <Michael_Kubuntu1> I 1st ran Kubuntu as live OS & had "lagg" .. no much worried about boot speed at this stage.
[13:45] <DesignerX> ok.. this is my real IRC nick :D
[13:45] <DesignerX> designerx.com.au (yes, I'm a web designer with no time for my website !)
[15:51] <TBotNik> All: Where is the best place to find BASH scripts?
[15:52] <TBotNik> All: Need to automatically find and mount USB/Flash drives
[15:52] <Shaan7> http://www.duckduckgo.com
[16:09] <Walex2> TBotNik: why do you think that is related to BASH scripts? Why do you think that BASH scripts found randomly are right for your situation?
[16:11] <TBotNik> It has to be a script, for machine with CLI only, and I prefer BASH, which I understand the best!
[16:11] <TBotNik> Walex2: It has to be a script, for machine with CLI only, and I prefer BASH, which I understand the best!
[16:14] <Walex2> TBotNik: I don't see the connection between "script" and "CLI only". Why do you think that DBUS, 'udev' and/or automounters only work if a GUI is running?
[16:16] <DesignerX> hi, how can I show only App Icon & Name when I press alt-tab ? instead of Program Preview .
[16:23] <Walex2> DesignerX: maybe there is an options under "Worksspace Appearance>Window Behaviour>Task Switcher"
[16:24] <Walex2> DesignerX: like "thumbnails"
[16:25] <DesignerX> Walex2: ty, will try that
[16:55] <TBotNik> Walex2: The machine in question is toast, ran into "disk full" scenario and corrupted itself, so process is emergency recovery, but must script it to not leave out any critical info on the machine!
[16:56] <TBotNik> Walex2: Can only login tty2-5 and CLI and nothing formerly "auto" works!
[16:58] <TBotNik> Walex2: Having to backup over 5M files, must capture all config files, all app launchers, including launcher menu (with order) and over 280GB of data.  HD is 320GB.
[17:10] <Walex2> TBotNik: why is your priority to run automounting in this situation?
[17:11] <Walex2> TBotNik: that sounds extremely bizarre. Mounting manually takes a single line.
[18:01] <TBotNik> Walex2: Right if you only have to do it once, but 64GB flash into 280 goes how many times, and the backup has to know the 64GB size and not build any .tar or tar.gz files larger than 64GB, must build it on the flash, mark where it is at, let the flash be removed, for manual copy to backup server, with 1TB HD, then when remounted check empty status, remove .tar/.tat.gz(s) if there, then continue backups, etc.
[18:05] <TBotNik> Walex2: Wrote all this up at:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201093-recovery-desperate-2.html and at http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201498-flash-mount-bash.html#post951178
[18:07] <Walex2> TBotNik: you can do that with a shell script that does 'unmount ...; mount ...'
[18:16] <hal_> turn down for what!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:54] <kamesh> Hi all, I am having trouble booting to Linux. I have a GPT enabled UEFI system with windows 8.1 on it. Kubuntu is installed in a seperate partition. But when the system starts then it directly boots into windows
[18:54] <kamesh> The situation does not solve even with boot repair
[18:54] <kamesh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7523521/
[18:55] <kamesh> can anybody help??
[19:02] <kamesh> ???
[19:35] <hubelibub> why have you chosen kubuntu?
[19:36] <genii> !polls
[19:36] <genii> !poll
[19:36]  * genii smacks the bot
[19:37] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu | hubelibub this is why
[19:51] <aljosa> 14.04 doesn't mount android phones when connected w/ usb cable, works as expected on 13.10
[20:15]  * TheFakeazneD525 slides genii some KTorrent Koffee
[20:15] <TheFakeazneD525> It's full featured, informative, and a well rounded taste :D
[20:15]  * genii sips and goes back to reading documentation
[20:43] <belga> hi
[20:43] <belga> Kubuntu is great since 14.04.
[20:43] <belga> however...
[20:45] <belga> my bluetooth doesn't work like it suppose to
[20:46] <genii> !details
[20:46] <belga> it worked well untill I upgraded from 13.10
[20:55] <belga> my hci0 shows up. It scans. But pairing doesn't work with my headphone and bluetooth receiver
[21:12] <keithzg_> These daily kernel panics are really getting me down . . . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gYkIxARD9Aw/U4Oop-lT7tI/AAAAAAAAFkc/PmE5T4e8em0/w1375-h774-no/IMG_20140526_144829441.jpg
[21:14] <keithzg_> Well, general protection fault at least. Is that an actual kernel panic? It's been so long I entirely forget, went years without such things happening and now it's nearly daily :(
[21:15] <keithzg_> (everything seems entirely stable when I boot into SystemRescueCD instead, and I've been unable to prove any hardware faults.)
[22:08] <jigm> buenas, buenasssss


[20:38] <RamsesIII> Hello, is there a way to run cloud-config file on a recently installed ubuntu (bare metal) manually ?
[20:39] <RamsesIII> I use it on my cloud nodes, but like the same execution on my bare metal servers post-installation


   Please find something better to do with your time.  Perhaps a recreational sport, or knitting, or professional eating.  Thanks.
[18:47] <bazhang> just dont join them
[18:47] <kaendfinger> #ubuntu
[18:47] <kaendfinger> atleast?
[18:47] <bazhang> you are banned there already
[18:48] <kaendfinger> Lol
[18:48] <kaendfinger> I'm quieted
[18:48] <Myrtti> that works
[18:48] <kaendfinger> FAIL
[18:49] <bazhang> ok...
[19:05] <bazhang> and that whole paste by elSixx told us precisely nothing
[19:15] <bazhang> seems like he has a MINT type PPA installed but insists its gnome-shell
[19:15] <bazhang> such as MATE
[19:16] <bazhang> or its just MINT (its the same!!1)
[19:25] <bazhang> hi
[19:28] <bazhang> pandit, may we help you
 How do I open a folder?
[19:47] <bazhang> pandit, please respond
[20:23] <bazhang> * [socket939] (6b0fa189@gateway/web/freenode/ip.<IP_ADDRESS>): cpe-107-015-161-137.nc.res.rr.com/<IP_ADDRESS>
 how does one ubuntu?
[20:53] <bazhang> we already have ufw
[21:06] <sarnold> user gynna is pasting links to NSFW content
[21:06] <sarnold> at least channel #ubuntu-server -- I didn't see others
[21:09] <bazhang> [gynna] (gynna@<IP_ADDRESS>): ...
[21:09] <bazhang> looks to be gone
[23:14] <vfw> r0OOt
[23:16] <k1l> kicked the user. that was an spam link redirecting to an advert site. maybe staff wants to take a look at
[23:42] <k1l> r0OOt<EMAIL_ADDRESS>hat #ubuntu-de verlassen (requested by k1l (stop that))  kicked him from the german ubuntu channel. so he is advertising freenode wide
[23:46] <Fuchs> yeah, k-lined
[23:47] <k1l> yep :)


[11:00] <poningru> vegos: dude which card exactly are you using?
[11:01] <cafuego> Seveas: Incidentally<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:01] <cafuego> Well, OR that ;-)
[11:01] <poningru> woah
[11:01] <unu> am i the only one around here thinking that a lot of apps from universe don't work at all?
[11:01] <Seveas> cafuego, I like to think big
[11:01] <unu> xdm/bbpager/...
[11:01] <ion> bnD: cheers man but I can't d o things to  complicated because I'm newbie...
[11:01] <cafuego> Seveas: *!*@8* ? ;-)
[11:01] <bnD> wow
[11:01] <Seveas> ion, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:01] <Seveas> click on java
[11:01] <Seveas> click on the version you want
[11:01] <GTswagger> navarone --> virtual terminals aren't too memory intensive; but I"m not familiar with Ubuntu's use of them.   I'm a big Gentoo fan;  here helping out a friend who's jumping into linux his first time
[11:01] <ion> bnD: always I hava a problem to install things from the terminal....
[11:01] <GTswagger> (vegos)
[11:02] <Seveas> download the deb
[11:02] <Seveas> and install
[11:02] <navarone> Gtswagger > okie...just wondering cos I recall doing it in mandrake 8.1 or 9.2 but do not recall the procedure
[11:03] <cafuego> navarone: It won't make any difference.
[11:03] <GTswagger> navarone -- cool!  I learned Linux on Mandrake 8.0
[11:03] <gepatino> navarone: try commenting the lines that have /sbin/getty in /etc/inittab and reboot
[11:03] <trappist> navarone: /etc/inittab
[11:03] <GTswagger> navarone -- Mandrake was great back in the day; but from what I've heard Mandriva is nothing like the goodness Mandrake use to be.
[11:03] <ion> Seveas: cool man you're the guy thank you.....
[11:03] <cafuego> gepatino: 'init q' will do, thankyou. No rebooting required.
[11:03] <earthdog> woot!  ndis works!
[11:03] <gepatino> navarone: but at least leave one
[11:03] <Sarvell> i am not sure how to troubleshoot no signal on my tv card...
[11:03] <cafuego> navarone: Seems like a lot of work for 200Kb of extra free ram, though.
[11:04] <Seveas> Sarvell, plug in the cable?
[11:04] <Sarvell> haha
[11:04] <gepatino> cafuego thanks, i dind't know that one
[11:04] <GTswagger> navarone -- I used Mandrake 8.0, 8.2, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0 before moving onto Gentoo b/c Mandrake wasn't as powerful as I wanted it to be for MythTV; and I was tired of doing reinstalls to do updates.
[11:04] <navarone> Gtswagger...i have used caldera, mandrake (3 versions) and almost fell for Corel when it was around...and yes...Mandrake was by far the easiest back in the day...especially the partioning...lol
[11:04] <vegos> Im using a broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
[11:04] <gepatino> cafuego does that reload inittab?
[11:04] <Seveas> !tell vegos about ndiswrapper
[11:04] <vegos> ive installed ndiswrapper
[11:04] <vegos> and wrapped the windows driver
[11:04] <cafuego> gepatino: man 8 init -> Q or q tell init to re-examine the /etc/inittab file
[11:05] <Sarvell> woops
[11:05] <gepatino> cafuego ... just reading that... thanks
[11:05] <bnD> my / partition is 97% full :O
[11:05] <GTswagger> bnD -- rm -rf /       ;)
[11:05] <bnD> GTswagger: lol i think ill go use gparted instead :P
[11:05] <navarone> gepatino / trappist >thanks for the headsup...but not really worried about the ram myself...was just curious
[11:05] <fdr> misfit_toy, btw, did you also manage to have amarok retrieve an mp3 details by using musicbrainz? For every file I try, it says it can't find it in the musicbrainz database... Thanks!
[11:06] <bnD> time to steal the neighbors net, brb
[11:06] <GTswagger> lol
[11:06] <ttcsvin> what ubuntu program is good to record cds?
[11:06] <vegos> for example: i will do----sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "myessid" , but when i enter iwconfig the wlan0 still has essid as off/any
[11:06] <inva|id> fdr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85541&highlight=amarok+musicbrainz
[11:06] <Sarvell> how do i update the driver for my tv card?
[11:06] <robotgeek> fdr: the libtunepimp application has been compiled without mp3 support
[11:07] <navarone> bnD> I just installed new 250 gigger so i used the installation prog to setup partitions and format...leaving space unused for ubuntu. Took a few tries...and had to flash bios for large drive
[11:07] <cafuego> ttcsvin: gnomebaker seems to work, just insert a blank CD and wait for the dialog.
[11:07] <misfit_toy> fdr, amarok has it's own database IIRC
[11:07] <ttcsvin> thanks cafuego
[11:07] <GTswagger> vegos:  This is a Gentoo ndiswrapper guide many people have found very successful.  Give it a try, ignoring Gentoo commands like "emerge" and keeping in mind to use Ubuntu stuff like sudo
[11:07] <GTswagger> vegos: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=125627
[11:08] <NoUse> !ndiswrapper
[11:08] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:08] <navarone> GTswagger > have booted from systemrescue cd and it is based on Gentoo...i remember being impressed at the hardware detection...even my onboard sound
[11:08] <robotgeek> GTswagger: would it be too much to ask you to port that guide to ubuntu? :)
[11:08] <fdr> inva|id, thanks
[11:08] <inva|id> fdr: sure
[11:08] <DShepherd> how can I install opengl libraries?
[11:09] <DShepherd> I;m trying to install a game and it tells me I dont have opengl installed
[11:09] <ttcsvin> how can i view my ubuntu version?
[11:09] <poningru> DShepherd: they should be installed already
[11:09] <cafuego> DShepherd: If you did a normal Ubuintu install, they're already on your system.
[11:09] <robotgeek> ttcsvin: cat /etc/issue
[11:09] <GTswagger> robotgeek --- right now; yes...busy doing schoolwork and preparing a 1U rackmount server with Gentoo :)
[11:09] <DShepherd> ttcsvin: cat /etc/issue
[11:10] <poningru> ttcsvin: or system->About Ubuntu
[11:10] <ttcsvin> thanks all :)
[11:10] <ni1s> DShepherd, or do you mean the -dev libraries?
[11:10] <robotgeek> GTswagger: hmm, okay.
[11:10] <Seveas> GTswagger, no offense, but what does a gentoo user do in an ubuntu support channel?
[11:10] <GTswagger> Seveas - helping a bud here who is using Linux for the first time
[11:10] <DShepherd> ni1s: yeah that's what I need
[11:10] <Niomi> GTswagger: (sorry i didn't respond right away, i had to answer nature's call) it's not cached memory, xorg is using it. sometimes it will use a large amount of CPU as well.
[11:10] <GTswagger> Seveas -- vegos, in specific
[11:11] <Seveas> GTswagger, that are the good gentoo users :)
[11:11] <jarski> anybody, how "search" for deb packages? apt-get dont have the option.
[11:11] <jarski> ?
[11:11] <trappist> apt-cache search
[11:11] <inva|id> jarski: apt-cache
[11:11] <poningru> woah a gentoo user that doesnt say RTFM
[11:11] <Seveas> There have been 'inicidents' with funroll-loops.org prototypical users here :)
[11:11] <poningru> sorry dude couldnt resist
[11:11] <jarski> cache is for packages in net too?
[11:11] <Pedrolito> does ubuntu support glitz out of the box?
[11:11] <GTswagger> Seveas:  95% of Gentoo'ers a great Linux people.     I felt it would become X-rated when they talked of Mark Shuttleworth coming to LugRadio live  lol  ;)
[11:14] <Seveas> hehe
[11:14] <Sarvell> anyone i have an ASUS PVR-416 any ideas how to troubleshoot /get it to work properly?
[11:14] <ni1s> DShepherd, http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/ubuntu-fglrx-breezy/fglrx-driver-dev_8.19.10-1_i386.deb
[11:14] <Red-Sox> robotgeek: rm...i dont exactly know, i tampered around with it a bit thismorning and...er...i dont remember much about it
[11:14] <bnD> anyone recommend an app for downloading mucho binaries from usenet? <3
[11:14] <navarone> Seveas > I figure use whatever works...but so far ubuntu has been a smooth sail as far as fixing little config issues and such. And that comes down to users supporting other users...in irc/forums whatever...so it's all good
[11:14] <ni1s> DShepherd, cant find them in the repos, dont know thy? anyone?
[11:14] <ion> the information on gcc is too much I just want a compiler please...that's it....
[11:15] <poningru> bnD: thunderbird
[11:15] <ion> and how to set up it
[11:15] <Seveas> navarone, yeah, the community behind Ubuntu is terrific
[11:15] <Seveas> ion, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:15] <Seveas> that will give you gcc, g++, basic headers
[11:15] <Seveas> everything to get started
[11:16] <GTswagger> I have given Ubuntu two honest tries and been very disappointed both times :(
[11:16] <Seveas> GTswagger, too bad
[11:16] <GTswagger> I tried Ubuntu on a 400 Mhz Celeron Mendocino desktop; it wouldn't boot after install.
[11:16] <ion> Seveas:cheers man...
[11:16] <jarski> so whats the alternative?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> sorry to hear that GTswagger
[11:16] <navarone> Seveas > my first issue was mouse frozen...solved...and then setting up nvidia drivers (Which then let me play penguin planet racer..."whooosh..."
[11:16] <GTswagger> I tried Ubuntu on a Compaq Presario R3000Z laptop; and it didn't recognize the keyboard (OOF!)
[11:16] <robotgeek> Red-Sox: did you mess with /etc/esound/esd.conf
[11:16] <Seveas> but hey, if it ain't broken - don't fix it. So if gentoo works for you - i'd be the last to say you MUST switch :)
[11:16] <madmike> Ha, found out how to migrate my mails from evolution to thunderbird
[11:16] <poningru> GTswagger: you may wanna tri microubuntu
[11:16] <Seveas> GTroyZZzzz, that's a big ouch...
[11:17] <Seveas> GTswagger*
[11:17] <poningru> GTswagger: for the first one
[11:17] <kinkoblast> How do I change the color depth? I use XFCE, but I want this to effect xterm mode, too.
[11:17] <DShepherd> ni1s: still bugs out..when trying to isntall....
[11:17] <GTswagger> poningru - I have Gentoo on that laptop and Fedora on the desktop now; and they are making both end users happy thus far
[11:17] <poningru> GTswagger: and give it a try again with breezy if you didnt the first time
[11:17] <poningru> GTswagger: but can they configure it?
[11:18] <GTswagger> I used breezy on the desktop; hoary on the laptop
[11:18] <DShepherd> does anyone have a problem with me pasting 2 lines?
[11:18] <Seveas> GTswagger, as long as it's free software :)
[11:18] <ni1s> DShepherd, I'n no ATI expert, but what dose it say?
[11:18] <poningru> err use it I mean
[11:18] <lightseek> how can I run firestarter without sudo?
[11:18] <Seveas> DShepherd, if they're short lines not :)
[11:18] <poningru> but again this is turning into a flame war
[11:18] <Seveas> lightseek, not
[11:18] <robotgeek> GTswagger: copy the relevant config files from gentoo, and use in breezy :)
[11:18] <dell500> i just did sudo chown -R dell500:dell500 /media/raid0/ but it still doesn't give me permission  to write these files
[11:18] <DShepherd> checking for gluLookAt in -lGLU... no
[11:18] <DShepherd> configure: error: Error! You do not have OpenGL
[11:18] <Seveas> poningru, i disagree, healthy discussion is better
[11:18] <GTswagger> poningru:   can they configure it?  not sure what you mean?
[11:18] <lightseek> Seveas: it says i shouldnt run firestarter as sudo, but I cant run it without sudo
[11:18] <poningru> baah takes away from help
[11:18] <DShepherd> ni1s: that's the error
[11:18] <Seveas> DShepherd, libglu-dev (oslt) is what you need
[11:18] <ni1s> DShepherd, Ah! Its looking for glut
[11:18] <blueblood> Got any tip for good text editors? Getting kinda tired of Gedit :/ I like UltraEdit, but it takes ages to start with wine
[11:18] <madmike> dell500: did you check your fstab?
[11:19] <Seveas> DShepherd, what are you trying to compile?
[11:19] <lightseek> Seveas: Firewall started
[11:19] <lightseek> You should really not run firefox through sudo
[11:19] <robotgeek> blueblood: there's nedit or gvim
[11:19] <GTswagger> robotgeek -- I dunno; my g/f rather likes portage.   The only other software installer she liked before it was the old Mandrake era one.
[11:19] <dell500> madmike, nope, /etc/fstab??
[11:19] <madmike> yes
[11:19] <lightseek> Seveas: any ideas?
[11:19] <Seveas> *firefox*?
[11:19] <ion> Seveas: take a look that :0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:19] <jarski> uhm... cpuspeed missing from hoary... not found neither with search..
[11:19] <DShepherd> Seveas: a game, pong2
[11:19] <madmike> dell500 yes
[11:19] <kinkoblast> blueblood: ed!
[11:19] <Seveas> you said firestarter
[11:19] <dell500> madmike, what should i be looking for?
[11:19] <blueblood> hehe, not ed :P
[11:19] <kinkoblast> ?
[11:19] <dell500> madmike, options?
[11:19] <ispiked> does anyone know if the 5.10 kernel comes with the sata_resume/suspend patch built-in?
[11:19] <ion> Seveas: is already on my pc...
[11:19] <gnomefreak> lightseek,  if you have a grafical desktop why not run apps from the menus?
[11:19] <madmike> dell500 something like 'ro'
[11:19] <GTswagger> I was answering robotgeek poningru :P
[11:20] <poningru> oh hehe
[11:20] <Seveas> ion, good, so it's there :)
[11:20] <dell500> madmike, /dev/md0	/media/raid0	auto	defaults	0	0
[11:20] <kinkoblast> Hey, how do I set my colordepth to 16 bit?
[11:20] <ni1s> DShepherd, libglut3-dev
[11:20] <ion> Seveas: tthe question is how shall I find :(
[11:20] <madmike> type 'mount' in your console
[11:20] <Seveas> ion, just type gcc in the terminal
[11:20] <Seveas> ion, what are you trying to accomplish?
[11:20] <madmike> and look if its (rw)
[11:21] <madmike> dell500 and look if its (rw)
[11:21] <dell500> madmike, it does
[11:21] <Red-Sox> robotgeek: im getting a command not found for that one
[11:21] <ni1s> It bothers me that celestia in repos is version 1.32
[11:21] <madmike> dell500, does it have a mode too?
[11:21] <robotgeek> Red-Sox: i was asking you "How did you *mess* with esd"?
[11:21] <ion> Seveas: well I bought a book rigth and try to  learn ...
[11:22] <dell500> madmike, /dev/md0 on /media/raid0 type ext2 (rw)
[11:22] <lightbright> gnomefreak: firestarter is not shown in the menu, i have to type it in shell
[11:22] <DShepherd> Seveas, ni1s: that worked...it needs another file
[11:22] <Seveas> ion, good, then keep on reading ;)
[11:22] <lightbright> gnomefreak: how can I add firestarter to the auto load?
[11:22] <madmike> dell500, sorry then i'm out of options :/
[11:22] <DShepherd> Seveas, ni1s: checking for SDLNet_Init in -lSDL_net... no
[11:22] <navarone> lightbright look in application/system tools
[11:22] <gnomefreak> lightbright, after installing it did you restart your xsession?
[11:22] <ni1s> DShepherd, last error message is?
[11:22] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes
[11:22] <Seveas> DShepherd, libsdl2.0-dev (iirc)
[11:22] <Red-Sox> robotgeek: well...i typed in some command that i got on the internet, up came a dialog box, and that site said to change everything in the audio box to alsa or something like that
[11:22] <Seveas> long live apt-cache searc
[11:22] <Seveas> h
[11:23] <holycow> *hmmm*
[11:23] <lightbright> navarone: yeah its in application/system tools, fancy that :P
[11:23] <gnomefreak> lightbright, it should be there than mine is
[11:23] <robotgeek> Red-Sox: hmm, try System -> Preferences -> Multimedia Selector
[11:23] <navarone> lightbright > sometimes you have to dig
[11:24] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yeah, navarone was right,. its in application/system tools, fancy that :P
[11:24] <lightbright> navarone:  thanks :)
[11:24] <ion> Seveas: biginning programming..but I need compiler the book teels me how to do that on windows but I don't want to...if you know what I mean I want to swich off from windows......no windows anymore.....
[11:24] <gnomefreak> lol lightbright
[11:24] <ispiked> what does the power.sh script do in /etc/acpi?
[11:24] <Red-Sox> robotgeek: AH! that was it!
[11:24] <navarone> lightbright > np...btw...what part of aussie you in?
[11:24] <lightbright> navarone: now how do I add firestarter to run and load by itself everythime Ubuntu loads please?
[11:24] <lightbright> navarone: Sydney
[11:24] <robotgeek> Red-Sox: cool, hv fun!
[11:24] <Red-Sox> is there a good solution to kxdocker?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> cron maybe???
[11:25] <pluffsy> how do I find a line that contains a certain word in a big text file from cli?
[11:25] <robotgeek> pluffsy: man grep :)
[11:25] <kinkoblast> Red-Sox: XFCE panel?
[11:25] <ni1s> DShepherd, you probably want the libsdl-net1.2
[11:25] <dell500> madmike, you know how to find out what 'group' you're in?
[11:25] <ni1s> DShepherd, you probably want the libsdl-net1.2-dev even
[11:25] <navarone> lightbright? I think it loads automatically...you just need to use the applicatio/sytem tools menu to get to see it in action and to configure if need be
[11:25] <pluffsy> robotgeek: I'm trying to use grep and pipe from cat. but gaah I suck, I don't get any hits.
[11:25] <lightbright> navarone: yeah did that and it doesnt load by itself
[11:25] <DShepherd> ok ni1s
[11:25] <ni1s> DShepherd, What are you compiling if you dont mind me asking?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> navarone, it should run by default behind the sceens
[11:26] <Red-Sox> kinkoblast: but...you cant run that in gnome,right?
[11:26] <DShepherd> ni1s: pong^2
[11:26] <navarone> gnomefreak> yes...but not according to what he is sying
[11:26] <lightbright> if I want to make a mirror image copy of /home from one hard drive to another, would I ise rsync command?
[11:26] <faol> looking for some one to help me configure my voip
[11:26] <navarone> *saying
[11:26] <GTswagger> BTW; as I wait for vegos to return;  Has anybody heard a response from the LAME guys about Sony voilating the GPL and stealing their code?
[11:26] <robotgeek> pluffsy: did you try using -i for case insensitiveness?
[11:26] <Janbanan> What is SVG?
[11:26] <kinkoblast> Red-Sox: Gnome? Bah. XFCE is much nicer.
[11:26] <kinkoblast> !svg
[11:26] <dell500> just wondering, in my /etc/group file should there be a user named hal or something?
[11:26] <ubotu> kinkoblast: I give up, what is it?
[11:27] <kinkoblast> weee
[11:27] <gnomefreak> theres a list proccess command isnt there?
[11:27] <fluke> pll how can i solv this http://pastebin.com/432334
[11:27] <madmike> dell500 hmmm from cli i don't know... but there is a tool
[11:27] <Janbanan> !svg
[11:27] <kinkoblast> Janbanan:Scalable Vector Graphics.
[11:27] <robotgeek> fluke: did you use any unofficial repos?
[11:27] <GTswagger> good job kinkoblast; you blew his brain with those big words.   ;)
[11:28] <navarone> gnomefreak > wouldn't firestarter show up in system monitor if it was running?
[11:28] <ni1s> fluke, what are you trying to do?
[11:28] <madmike> dell500 System -> 2 Entry  (i'm on a german ubuntu) -> Users and Groups
[11:28] <Seveas> GTswagger, http://geekz.co.uk
[11:28] <pluffsy> robotgeek, i'm probably just not getting regex. this is what I type: cat file.txt | grep "*word*"
[11:28] <ttcsvin> what ubuntu program is good to record cds?
[11:28] <Red-Sox> kinkoblast: i know, i just cant get used to it
[11:28] <fluke> robotgeek, update to breasy
[11:28] <`sheep> i installed ubuntu, but after first boot system was just waiting, i got no progress (no X, nothing)
[11:28] <gnomefreak> not sure if the grafical moniter shows all processes
[11:28] <robotgeek> pluffsy: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <ni1s> ttcsvin, Gnomebaker is nice
[11:28] <lightbright> if I wanted to copy /home to /mnt/home , should I type: cp -a * /mnt/home ?
[11:29] <trappist> pluffsy: | grep 'word'
[11:29] <ttcsvin> thanks nils
[11:29] <trappist> pluffsy: or, grep 'word' file.txt
[11:29] <dell500> madmike, thanks
[11:29] <madmike> dell500 ur welcome ;)
[11:29] <ni1s> `sheep, something wrong with your X config maybe, try <Ctrl><Alt>Backspace
[11:29] <pluffsy> trappist, ahh thanks
[11:30] <ttcsvin> in what page can i search packages?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> what does command "pr" do?
[11:30] <`sheep> how can anything be wrong with it, it didn't even start
[11:30] <`sheep> and after i started recovery mode
[11:30] <`sheep> x isn't even installed
[11:30] <ni1s> `sheep, try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:30] <gnomefreak> i typed "pr" and enter than it went to next line without a prompt
[11:30] <robotgeek> ttcsvin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/<search>
[11:31] <ni1s> `sheep, try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[11:31] <`sheep> so i need to install everything manually ?
[11:31] <ttcsvin> thanks rob1
[11:31] <ttcsvin> thanks robotgeek
[11:31] <carlos_> porfabor el canal ubuntu en espaol cual es?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !es
[11:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:31] <ni1s> `sheep, hopefully not, but try that one I have you
[11:32] <`sheep> okey
[11:32] <`sheep> will do
[11:32] <`sheep> 10x
[11:32] <ion> So I gonna go back  to  the things that I was doing ..see you later guys
[11:32] <bahblahblahbah> umm my Windows internet doesn't work can someone help?
[11:32] <ni1s> bahblahblahbah, Windows Internet?
[11:32] <`sheep> how come irssi isn't on apt-get ?
[11:32] <ni1s> bahblahblahbah, Windows shared folder?
[11:32] <funkyHat> bahblahblahbah, how is your Windows computer connected to the internet?
[11:32] <bahblahblahbah> I mean like on Windows
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Windows as in M$ Windows?
[11:32] <robotgeek> `sheep: it's installed by default
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> i know
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> but it won't work
[11:33] <`sheep> i think i tried to run it
[11:33] <blondie> `sheep: might be irssi-text ?
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> some winsock problems
[11:33] <`sheep> ah
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> or something
[11:33] <`sheep> whats the search of apt-get ?
[11:33] <blondie> bahblahblahbah: why do you ask here?
[11:33] <blondie> apt-cache search
[11:33] <`sheep> apt-get search ?
[11:33] <`sheep> ah
[11:33] <gnomefreak> apt-cache i think
[11:33] <robotgeek> `sheep: apt-cache search
[11:33] <`sheep> okey
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> because I'm using ubuntu right now
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> a live cd
[11:33] <`sheep> that will come in handy
[11:33] <`sheep> i'm just used to working on gentoo
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> lol not much sense I know
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> but....
[11:33] <Seveas> bahblahblahbah, this is not #windows
[11:33] <ni1s> bahblahblahbah, Why are you asking this inhere?
[11:33] <`sheep> one command to rule them all
[11:33] <`sheep> :-)
[11:33] <navarone> gnomefreak > http://www.fs-security.com/docs/preferences.php   <-- This page says tat you can set it to start when you dial out...does this refer to only dial up users or is it generic for "when network connection is established"?
[11:33] <robotgeek> bahblahblahbah: can u shroten your nick
[11:33] <blondie> bahblahblahbah: and what does that have to do with it?
[11:33] <cafuego> as would 'apt-file search ...'
[11:33] <Seveas> it's insane to ask it in here
[11:33] <Seveas> so please leave
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ill look ty navarone
[11:34] <bahblahblahbah> k thx anyway
[11:34] <GTswagger> wb vegos
[11:34] <paxmaster> how could i relaod my mouse, it acting very funny
[11:34] <vegos> im back
[11:34] <poningru> vegos: did it work?
[11:34] <Seveas> that was funny :)
[11:34] <vegos> ok i got the wireless to work for 5 seconds then i lost the connection
[11:34] <ni1s> hehe
[11:34] <ni1s> paxmaster, try reconfigureing X
[11:34] <paxmaster> such as
[11:35] <paxmaster> dexconf
[11:35] <poningru> paxmaster: just restart X but that would restart everything
[11:35] <ni1s> paxmaster, How is it acting funny?
[11:35] <GTswagger> paxmaster -- unplug it and plug it back in; if it's a trackball; open it up and make sure the contacts are free of grime
[11:35] <lightbright> hi
[11:35] <ni1s> paxmaster, and if its a wireless, change the batteries
[11:35] <vegos> is this problem familiar with anyone
[11:36] <robotgeek> paxmaster: or if is it's optical, make sure your mousepad if you have one is non-reflecting
[11:36] <ni1s> paxmaster, and move the reciver closer to the mouse
[11:36] <paxmaster> i will try that thx
[11:36] <gnomefreak> navarone, if you look under general firewall options the first one is non-dial up the second one is dial-up so it looks like one setting to set it to run when you open GUI
[11:36] <gnomefreak> that goes for lightbright also
[11:36] <NightBird> hey, if there are some folders I want to have shared across a windows based network, how would I set that up?
[11:36] <poningru> vegos: you sure its not some prob with the wireless access point?
[11:37] <ni1s> Damn, we coverd alot of mouse troubleshooting there, and quick too!
[11:37] <VersusGod> I'm getting Bad USB agent invocation, no action
[11:37] <VersusGod>  when I try hotplug usb.  I'm doing it because my ipod isn't mounting
[11:37] <poningru> cause if it came in
[11:37] <poningru> and went out
[11:37] <vegos> positive, im using it now im my windows partition
[11:37] <`sheep> how come base install didn't put "man" ?
[11:37] <robotgeek> ni1s: yes we are fast. Fast are what we are :)
[11:37] <poningru> hmm
[11:37] <poningru> which card exactly was it?
[11:37] <vegos> broadcom
[11:37] <navarone> gnome > looked at the index and found page that says Firestarter will run as service when installed from a package (ie deb , rpm) but you need to config init script if you compiled yourself
[11:37] <`sheep> and how do i add "man" to commands ?
[11:37] <`sheep> cuz apt-get install man didn't work
[11:38] <`sheep> :-/
[11:38] <ni1s> `sheep, man should been installed, try man apt-get
[11:38] <poningru> vegos: you did use the correct .inf right?
[11:38] <vegos> yes
[11:38] <Seveas> apt-get install manpages manpages-posix manpages-dev manpages-posix-dev funny-manpages asr-manpages
[11:38] <`sheep> the command "man" wasn't found
[11:38] <navarone> sheep > you should have man pages installed...look in system help and then man pages
[11:38] <`sheep> ah
[11:38] <vegos> should the windows driver files be put in a certain folder
[11:38] <`sheep> oki
[11:39] <poningru> vegos: what did you do exactly?
[11:39] <vegos> ok
[11:39] <DShepherd> Seveas: ni1s thanks it worked
[11:39] <vegos> i installed ndiswrapper package
[11:39] <dooglus> `sheep: the package is called 'man-db', not 'man'
[11:39] <palatka> what does ctrl alt backspace do
[11:39] <ni1s> `sheep, your install seams to act very weird, If i were you I would redo the entire install( with in your case apparently wasnt much)
[11:40] <vegos> then i ran the command :      sudo ndiswrapper -i inffile
[11:40] <dooglus> palatka: it kills the X server
[11:40] <ni1s> DShepherd, np
[11:40] <navarone> palatka > it shuts down and restarts the x server to initialze changes you made
[11:40] <NightBird> anyone know how I would share a folder across the network?
[11:40] <DShepherd> ni1s: dont like it now though :(
[11:40] <vegos> then, : ndiswrapper to check if it worked
[11:40] <dooglus> navarone: it doesn't restart anything
[11:40] <`sheep> ni1s: i don't mind, but since i don't want grub to install on mbr, i installed it on the /boot and used "dd" to copy the boot record
[11:40] <vegos> then modprobe ndiswrapper to get the module
[11:40] <`sheep> then used it as a file to boot from
[11:40] <`sheep> it works
[11:40] <Niomi> NightBird: look up info on samba, nfs, or SSH, all are good options. i like SSH.
[11:41] <Red-Sox> How do you add magification to a panel?
[11:41] <`sheep> but i think the install somehow stopped
[11:41] <vegos> then i configured the network from the gui
[11:41] <`sheep> cuz i never got to a package selection screen
[11:41] <navarone> dooglus> when I do it it restarts x session
[11:41] <ni1s> `sheep, it all sounds very weird
[11:41] <dooglus> navarone: gdm might restart the X session after control-alt-backspace kills it.
[11:41] <NightBird> Niomi, I was wanting one that windows would be able to use natively without needing to install anything..
[11:41] <`sheep> i don't mind re-installing
[11:41] <poningru> you sure ndiswrapper was started?
[11:42] <navarone> dooglus >a lil from column a a lil from column b
[11:42] <`sheep> but tell me how to do it next time
[11:42] <ni1s> `sheep, thats what I would do
[11:42] <`sheep> i mean, do different
[11:42] <ni1s> `sheep, Why dont you want GRUb in the MBR?
[11:42] <vegos> yes i also downloaded and installed a ndiswrapper package that lets me wrap the windows drive through a gui
[11:42] <`sheep> i would like to keep my current boot record
[11:42] <Niomi> NightBird: samba would be your best bet then.
[11:42] <`sheep> i have used it for years on gentoo
[11:42] <`sheep> and it worked
[11:43] <`sheep> it only makes the install one step longer
[11:43] <`sheep> thats all
[11:43] <poningru> hmm brb
[11:43] <navarone> how do you make a copy of a bootdisk you made during install? Is that as simple as it sounds?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> navarone, i didnt think you had to compile it to get it to run on start
[11:44] <navarone> gnomefreak> you don't if you use a binary to install
[11:44] <cafuego> `sheep: The normal install deosn't give you a package selection screen.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> navarone,  if he got it from apt-get its not binary is it?
[11:45] <navarone> gnomefreak> I would think he installed a deb file
[11:45] <`sheep> i'll re-install, then
[11:45] <cafuego> `sheep: You could also just remove stuff you don't want.
[11:46] <`sheep> i just need to change the clock settings to gmt
[11:46] <cafuego> or tell it to not install the bootloader when prompted (pointless, though)
[11:46] <cafuego> `sheep: That's ain a config file in /etc somewhere
[11:46] <navarone> you can tell it to not install in mbr and then get option to put on floppy...
[11:46] <`sheep> don't have a floppy drive
[11:46] <navarone> eep
[11:47] <goat132321> UBUNTU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:47] <`sheep> and that boot.ini works for me
[11:47] <goat132321> I love that name
[11:47] <goat132321> :)
[11:47] <buzzco> any buddy know of a good way to turn a python project ( using distutils ) into an ubuntu deb ?
[11:47] <cafuego> if you're worried about making the install longer, just install it to the MBR, it's the fatest solution.
[11:47] <lightbright> whats the command to delete an entire folder that is full?  rmdir doesnt work
[11:47] <goat132321> RMFDIR
[11:47] <lightbright> goat132321: what?
[11:47] <goat132321> Remove Mothafuking DIR
[11:47] <`sheep> it doesn't take long to move it from /boot to a file
[11:47] <buzzco> rm -fr /dirname
[11:47] <bimberi> lightbright: rm -r <dir>
[11:48] <`sheep> and i'm quite skilled @ it
[11:48] <ttcsvin> can i put a image in the Gaim?
[11:48] <lightbright> bimberi: thanks!  btw, who is this goat132321 , he is being very nasty
[11:48] <bimberi> nfi
[11:48] <Seveas> ttcsvin, yes
[11:48] <Seveas> tools -> accounts
[11:48] <gnomefreak> goat132321,  can you please not curse this is a family chat
[11:48] <goat132321> no one special
[11:48] <Seveas> select account, hit edit
[11:48] <goat132321> sorry My apologise to the family I offended
[11:49] <cafuego> goat132321: Check the Code of Coduct on the Ubuntu website.
[11:49] <cafuego> goat132321: Verily, it doth also apply here.
[11:49] <benkong2> dose anyone know of any reason why the firefox 1.5 install in the wiki has problems on AMD64?
[11:49] <Netslayer> how do i get the gnome network manager available?
[11:49] <Netslayer>  - available :-P
[11:50] <ttcsvin> how can i rec a cd in from the console?
[11:51] <cafuego> ttcsvin: 'cdrecord'.
[11:51] <robotgeek> Netslayer: System -> Administration _> Network
[11:51] <tarheelcoxn> ttcsvin: you want to burn or rip?
[11:51] <ttcsvin> from the consolo
[11:51] <Netslayer> robotgeek, is it only available in gnome?
[11:51] <ttcsvin> from the console
[11:51] <robotgeek> Netslayer: the package name is network-admin
[11:51] <tarheelcoxn> ttcsvin: you want to rip from the CD to the HD or you want to burn from the HD to the CD?
[11:51] <Niomi> Netslayer: gksudo network-admin. there's also a setting in the KDE control panel
[11:51] <ttcsvin>  burn from the HD to the CD
[11:52] <cafuego> ttcsvin: 'cdrecord'.
[11:52] <tarheelcoxn> ttcsvin: what cafuego said
[11:52] <ttcsvin> thanks
[11:52] <tarheelcoxn> ttcsvin: read the man page... it's very good
[11:52] <tarheelcoxn> has anybody seen cafuego?
[11:52] <cafuego> ttcsvin: if it's a data cd, you'll need to create an ISO first using 'mkisofs'.
[11:53] <dooglus> tarheelcoxn: it's a shame he's not around.  he knows all about cdrecord and stuff
[11:53] <ttcsvin> ok
[11:53] <ttcsvin> thanks cafuego
[11:53] <Red-Sox> how do you magnify launchers on panels like in osx?
[11:54] <lightbright> anyone here use rsync a lot?
[11:54] <Netslayer> robotgeek, if i don't have network-admin available in synaptic does that mean i'm missing a repos/source?
[11:54] <cafuego> BLoody spambot
[11:55] <Stormx2> who is the spambot?
[11:55] <cafuego><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:55] <robotgeek> Netslayer: did you install gnome?
[11:55] <Stormx2> and who the hell would set a spambot on the ubuntu channel?!
[11:55] <cafuego> +3
[11:55] <Seveas> Stormx2, scriptkiddies
[11:55] <cafuego> Stormx2: traditionally, on-join porn spammers.
[11:55] <Netslayer> robotgeek, ya i have gnome. i'm talking about this: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[11:55] <Seveas> there are tons of them (both the kiddies and the bots)
[11:55] <Stormx2> Sados.
[11:56] <jcole> anyone here familiar or have done bluetooth networking?
[11:56] <robotgeek> Netslayer: oh okay, sudo apt-get install network-manager
[11:56] <Sarvell> whats the best way to use windows drivers?
[11:56] <Stormx2> Sarvell: For what?
[11:56] <Sarvell> tv tuner asus pvr 416
[11:57] <robotgeek> jcole: what are u trying to setup?
[11:57] <Seveas> Sarvell, there is no way
[11:57] <Netslayer> robotgeek, apparently i have it. is it an applet in gnome? (i'm in kde right now)
[11:57] <andril> hello all
[11:57] <cafuego> Sarvell: In windows.
[11:57] <Seveas> cafuego, good catch :)
[11:57] <Sarvell> anybody know how to get it working properly then?
[11:57] <robotgeek> Netslayer: nm-applet --sm-disable&
[11:57] <andril> anyone figure out how to tame this Breezy yet?
[11:57] <robotgeek> Netslayer: nm-applet --sm-disable &
[11:57] <Netslayer> robotgeek, awesome!!!!
[11:57] <jcole> robotgeek: well, i want to use my cell phone as a bluetooth network device
[11:58] <robotgeek> jcole: hmm, i havent gone that far. sorry
[11:58] <Inchabod> Is there anyway to try KDE over gnome without ruining any of my gnome settings and be able to switch back safely?
[11:58] <tarheelcoxn> Sarvell: google for the chipset
[11:58] <Sarvell> cx88
[11:58] <tarheelcoxn> Sarvell: if you don't know what the chipset is, find it with lspci
[11:58] <Seveas> Inchabod, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <andril> I am having issues with transparent corners and icons when moving
[11:58] <Seveas> choose when logging in
[11:59] <tarheelcoxn> Sarvell: but I'm with Seveas and cafuego... you're likely out of luck
[11:59] <Inchabod> and it won't wreck anything?
[11:59] <robotgeek> jcole: done searching the wiki?
[11:59] <cafuego> 1) Find out if the hardware is supported under the OS ou want to run 2) Buy hardware. Don't reverse the order.
[11:59] <Sarvell> hope not...


[10:47] <Xira> DevDuck: I had to delete my mdk partition to install Ubuntu
[10:47] <Xira> :/
[10:47] <DevDuck> right shoulda guessed that
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Xira: do you have a live CD that "works" ?
[10:48] <Xira> thoreauputic: sigh.. already suggested, to make al ong story short, isnt going to help
[10:48] <thoreauputic> if so, copy the XF86Config-4
[10:48] <yaaar> Xira: the fastest way if this is a new ubuntu install is probably to reinstall mdk, save the xorg.conf someplace, then install ubuntu, then copy the important parts of xorg.conf (or the whole thing)
[10:48] <Xira> If I install MDK again I'm going to forget about Ubuntu
[10:48] <Xira> :|
[10:48] <Fator_Dee> no you are not
[10:48] <yaaar> Xira: i know it doesn't help much now, but for the future, if you have X working well in a distro and you want to switch to a different one (or even a newer release of the one you're using) *always* save the X config file
[10:49] <thoreauputic> Xira: the live CD idea isn't viable why, if you don't mind elucidating?
[10:49] <DevDuck> gotta go, thnx everyone
[10:49] <yaaar> Xira: well, you know, it's not really any skin off our backs if you don't come back to ubuntu....it'll be you that lacks the niceties of the distro.
[10:50] <Xira> thoreauputic: I'm on a Dell Dimension 4550 with 1gb of RAM and a 9800 Pro, livecds (esp knoppix) cause a bug where my mobo dies unless I power cycle it for 10 seconds
[10:50] <veristead> DAMN HACKERS,
[10:50] <veristead> I HATE ALL OF THEM
[10:50] <CarlK> schweeb - I cou;nt really see a bios name - closest was "compaq computer config setup screen" or something
[10:50] <veristead> they are criminals
[10:50] <veristead> CRIMINALS I TELL YOU
[10:50] <veristead> jp
[10:50] <Slaven> wanna talk about it? ;)
[10:50] <thoreauputic> veristead: you have a misconception of the term "hacker"
[10:51] <veristead> i am kidding
[10:51] <Xira> I wish I had more CDRs, I'd try out FC3
[10:51] <veristead> hence the jp
[10:51] <snoop_> veristead: you mean cracker?
[10:51] <veristead> i am making a sarcastic remark based on recent news headlines
[10:51] <snoop_> veristead: which one would that be?
[10:52] <onslaught789> can anyone tell me how i can mount my cd drive/
[10:52] <onslaught789> i have 2 cd drives one is mounted the other is not
[10:52] <_ale> mount /dev/cdrom?
[10:52] <veristead> the one about MIT, Harvard, and Stanford (and some other schools) being hacked to see if they were accepeted
[10:52] <onslaught789> it didnt work
[10:52] <HrdwrBoB> onslaught789: right click on the drive
[10:52] <snoop_> veristead: ah, i remember seeing that one..
[10:52] <HrdwrBoB> click 'mount'
[10:52] <veristead> yep
[10:52] <onslaught789> it doesnt show up there
[10:53] <onslaught789> but in device manager it does
[10:53] <veristead> DYSLEXICS UNTIE
[10:53] <veristead> oops
[10:53] <veristead> i mean UNITE
[10:53] <hsoj> Hi, i just installed ubuntu and it can't start X. i get an error saying that no devices were detected and that no screens were found. I have a p4 2.8 in an abit 875p board with a geforce6800 and audigy 2.
[10:53] <Blissex> hsoj: thanks for letting us know :-)
[10:53] <veristead> lol
[10:53] <thoreauputic> veristead: no, the dyslexic spelling was right and we got it the first time :)
[10:54] <hsoj> anyone wanna help? heh.
[10:54] <Blissex> hsoj: probably :-)
[10:54] <hsoj> lol... this is why i love irc.
[10:54] <HrdwrBoB> hsoj: hm.. warty may not have known about your card when it was released
[10:54] <Blissex> hsoj: statements, ''doesn work'', 'anyone can help'' questions are usually a joke.
[10:54] <HrdwrBoB> hsoj: you can manually configure it to 'nv'
[10:54] <veristead> how many ADD kids does it take to screw in a light bulb?
[10:54] <HrdwrBoB> or you can try hoary
[10:54] <HrdwrBoB> guys can we keep it on topic?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> onslaught789: this sounds obvious so forgive me - you aren't trying to mount audio CDs, are you?
[10:55] <hsoj> isn't hoary not supposed to be out for another month or so?
[10:55] <Fator_Dee> hsoj: next month
[10:55] <veristead> how many ADD kids does it take to screw in a light bulb?
[10:55] <yaaar> hsoj: i'm upgrading to it right now......hopefully
[10:55] <HrdwrBoB> that's right, however you can run the current release of it
[10:56] <hsoj> how would i go about upgrading?
[10:56] <HrdwrBoB> and then upgrade to stable hoary when it comes out
[10:56] <veristead> DAMN IT
[10:56] <veristead> dnt kill the jokes
[10:56] <HrdwrBoB> you can either grab the CD
[10:56] <_ale> veristead: how many?
[10:56] <yaaar> hsoj: so, this is a brand-new warty install, and X won't load?
[10:56] <HrdwrBoB> nad then put it in, it'll alutomatically detect it
[10:56] <hsoj> yaaar, yes
[10:56] <veristead> you wanna go ride bikes?
[10:56] <HrdwrBoB> or you can grab all the updates off the net
[10:57] <hsoj> in my XFree86.0.log file it doesn't list my graphics card as being in the driver that was bundled in...
[10:57] <HrdwrBoB> hsoj: if you use the nvidia binary driver it should work
[10:57] <Bauhn> anyone who knows if it secure to install ubuntu when i have windows installed and don't want to remove it?
[10:57] <HrdwrBoB> Bauhn: yes, that's fine
[10:57] <yaaar> hsoj: if I was doing it, before I tried messing with anything else, I'd go down to http://ubuntuguide.org and follow the directions for "installing the nvidia drivers"
[10:57] <Win32> how do you delete files in terminal?
[10:58] <Neil3> mm this gnome 2.10 live cd is awesome guys
[10:58] <hsoj> ah.. didn't go there... tried the forums and then here.
[10:58] <yaaar> hsoj: if you've got a problem with your video modules or something that would just neatly sidestep it
[10:58] <_ale> Win32: rm
[10:58] <hsoj> thanks for the link
[10:58] <Bauhn> HrdwrBoB ace ;D
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Win32: rm file
[10:58] <yaaar> hsoj: yeah, that site is actually really cool; there's all kinds of stuff there that is really handy
[10:58] <Win32> ok
[10:58] <Win32> how do I delete directories>
[10:59] <thoreauputic> rmdir
[10:59] <_ale> rm -r dir
[10:59] <snoop_> Neil3: how's the memory usage? better?
[10:59] <Neil3> the whole thing feels faster
[10:59] <snoop_> Neil3: awesome....
[10:59] <Neil3> i'll check mem usage
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Win32: if they have files in them, rm -r <dir> as _ale says
[11:00] <hsoj> is ubuntuguide.org down? or is my network connection being flakey?
[11:00] <_ale> what irc client you guys use in ubuntu?
[11:00] <Neil3> its hard to tell mem usage cos this is a live cd
[11:00] <Neil3> _ale, xchat
[11:00] <thoreauputic> _ale: xchat or irssi
[11:01] <_ale> xchat is installed by default?
[11:01] <Neil3> sh: mem: command not found
[11:01] <Neil3> oops
[11:01] <thoreauputic> _ale: yes
[11:01] <Neil3>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[11:01] <Neil3> Mem:           504        500          3          0         36        355
[11:01] <Neil3> -/+ buffers/cache:        107        396
[11:01] <Neil3> Swap:          486          0        486
[11:01] <SiRrUs> hsoj looks like its down
[11:01] <Win32> thanks guys, rm -r dir <dir> works for me, files or not
[11:02] <HrdwrBoB> Win32: yes, be careful wacing that around ;)
[11:02] <thoreauputic> Win32: yep, rmdir is just for removeing an empty one
[11:02] <Neil3> they finally replaced nasty esd with polypaudio
[11:02] <Neil3> much better
[11:02] <snoop_> Neil3: hmm...cool
[11:02] <HrdwrBoB> Neil3: actually esd is retained for hoary
[11:02] <HrdwrBoB> you can install polypaudio if you want though
[11:02] <K-Rich> hey all i just noticed something odd on my warty box... i have not only /dev but i have /.dev (which has more items in it) what's with that ?
[11:02] <[FiDO] > does anyone know how to get quicktime working in firefox
[11:02] <_ale> it's nice to make a typo while using rm -r
[11:02] <hsoj> how to i upgrade to hoary then?
[11:03] <farruinn> K-Rich: taht was on ubuntu-users a while ago... I can't remember the explanation though
[11:03] <K-Rich> farruinn: the forums or elsewhere? got the url, i'll search
[11:04] <cocol> apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> The udev package is used to create a dynamic /dev. To do this, it mounts
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> a memory filesystem (tmpfs) over /dev. The original /dev on the disk is
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> redirected to /.dev .
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> You can remove /.dev if you want. The way to do this is to unmount /.dev
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> and remove the .dev directory (which will be empty after it is
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> unmounted).
[11:04] <farruinn> K-Rich: yeah, ubuntuforums has a mirror of the list that you could probably search
[11:04] <yaaar> hsoj: yes, unfortunately it *does* look like ubuntuguide.org is down. i've still got it up on my machine, but i can't load it on this other one. odd.
[11:05] <kirt> Awww.  The preview is delayed until tomorrow. :(
[11:05] <SiRrUs> kirt how did you find that out
[11:05] <[FiDO] > what preview
[11:05] <farruinn> kirt: erm, today is Thursday...
[11:05] <snoop_> hsoj: try this for more help http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes/view?searchterm=upgrade%20to%20hoary
[11:05] <yaaar> hsoj: if you really want to try out hoary, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change each instance of "warty" to "hoary" ...then run (as root) 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'
[11:05] <K-Rich> HrdwrBoB: so it's not really needed then ?
[11:05] <kirt> The devel mailing list
[11:05] <SiRrUs> farruinn today is wednesday :)
[11:06] <HrdwrBoB> K-Rich: essentially it's a 'just in case' udev screws up
[11:06] <hsoj> yaaar, is hoary fairly stable?
[11:06] <farruinn> kirt: ignore me, I'm very confused
[11:06] <yaaar> hsoj: i have no idea; this upgrade i'm in the middle of will be my first experience.
[11:06] <mlambie> I'm in Perth, Western Australia... and it's Thursday ;)
[11:06] <hsoj> yaaar, ok. thanks :)
[11:06] <thoreauputic> SiRrUs: well, that depends... ;)
[11:06] <SiRrUs> thoreauputic ssshhhhhh
[11:06] <K-Rich> HrdwrBoB: well, seems something might be amiss, there is no sequencer in /dev though it is in /.dev
[11:07] <yaaar> does anybody know kind of a tentative date on hoary going official?
[11:07] <Tuxadermist> Never
[11:07] <Tuxadermist> :)
[11:07] <yaaar> hehe
[11:07] <thoreauputic> yaaar: april 1st
[11:07] <yaaar> kew
[11:07] <yaaar> l
[11:07] <cocol> 5 april
[11:07] <snoop_> later all
[11:07] <malte`> actually it's 6th
[11:08] <SiRrUs> cocol 5 april ?
[11:08] <thoreauputic> cocol: aww... don't spoil the joke...
[11:08] <yaaar> what, are we starting a pool? i've got 4/7!
[11:08] <cocol> :)
[11:08] <malte`> lol
[11:09] <thoreauputic> yaaar: about the same time as Longhorn and Duke-Nukem-Forever
[11:10] <yaaar> thoreauputic: long in the tooth?
[11:10] <punkass> is there a way to access a mounted windows share via command line?
[11:10] <HrdwrBoB> K-Rich: yes because /.dev is the directory with all devices already made
[11:10] <Win32> how do i fix?
[11:10] <HrdwrBoB> K-Rich: the likelihood is you don't HAVE a sequencer
[11:10] <Win32> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:10] <Win32>  postfix
[11:10] <Win32>  at
[11:10] <Win32>  ubuntu-base
[11:10] <Win32>  postfix-tls
[11:10] <Tuxadermist> this little kde version is fun
[11:10] <hawke> thoreauputic: so it should be well before debian Sarge?
[11:10] <punkass> one that has been mounted via gnomes vfs
[11:10] <HrdwrBoB> K-Rich: and udev hasn't created the device
[11:10] <cocol> iam a happy man...now with gnome2.10 and kdebase+multimedia
[11:11] <cocol> kde3.4
[11:11] <thoreauputic> hawke: yeah, looking that way :(
[11:11] <critter> I cant get wine to install any help?
[11:11] <hawke> critter: Liquor store?
[11:11] <hawke> (har, har)
[11:11] <critter> Haha
[11:11] <HrdwrBoB> Win32: apt-get -f install
[11:11] <HrdwrBoB> then
[11:12] <thoreauputic> *boom boom*
[11:12] <HrdwrBoB> if there is still an error
[11:12] <HrdwrBoB> paste it to pastebin.com or similar
[11:12] <HrdwrBoB> critter: sudo apt-get install wine
[11:12] <critter> Ok will try
[11:12] <HrdwrBoB> assuming you have the universe repository enabled
[11:12] <McClane> hey
[11:12] <critter> yes I do
[11:12] <HrdwrBoB> ok cool
[11:13] <hsoj> if i enable the universe repository, i'll want to change the warty to hoary if i'm upgrading to hoary right?
[11:13] <HrdwrBoB> hsoj: correct
[11:13] <Win32> HrdwrBoB, still get error
[11:13] <HrdwrBoB> Win32: paste it in that site and then paste the url
[11:13] <critter> WOrked
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Win32: you ran sudo apt-get update (or "reload " from synaptic) ?
[11:14] <critter> HrdweBob Thanks
[11:15] <Win32> http://pastebin.com/251688
[11:15] <Win32> its whenever I do it
[11:15] <HrdwrBoB> critter: no problem :)
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> Win32: run sudo /etc/init.d/postfix stop
[11:16] <critter> I dont guess the graphic version will work with Ubunta wouldn't d/l wine tools
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> then run that again
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> see how you go
[11:16] <HrdwrBoB> critter: what do you mean?
[11:17] <Win32> HrdwrBoB, it now says E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:17] <Win32> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:17] <critter> WHen I added the new url from wine in the SPM It listed wine tools but said it wouldnt d/l it
[11:18] <HrdwrBoB> Win32: did you run it with sudo?
[11:18] <Win32> yea
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Win32: you have two apt processes running
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Win32: close synaptic or the other terminal or whatever
[11:18] <jmob> Win32: run ``pgrep apt-get''
[11:19] <jmob> Win32: kill `pgrep apt-get`
[11:19] <Win32> aight
[11:20] <Win32> thoreauputic, I forgot about the shynaptic, it was minizmized, didn't see it
[11:20] <thoreauputic> Win32: common thing - happens a lot :)
[11:20] <thoreauputic> Win32: next time you know, so it won't be a problem
[11:21] <Win32> thoreauputic, yea ecspecioally if you use window selector instead of window list
[11:21] <Win32> well thanks
[11:21] <thoreauputic> why did he leave?
[11:22] <critter> This is the message I get when I try to Install Wine tools graphic interface
[11:22] <critter> winetools:
[11:22] <critter>  Depends: xdialog but it is not installable
[11:23] <thoreauputic> xdialog is in universe - what happens if you try to install xdialog by itself?
[11:24] <critter> I havent :-)
[11:24] <critter> BRB :-)
[11:24] <thoreauputic> critter: that's not what I asked, is it?
[11:24] <Mithsir> Hello! I just upgraded my debian unstable to ubuntu hoary. Everything worked fine. but the amarok musik player doesn't work... can anyone help?
[11:25] <critter> I havent tried to install xdialog
[11:25] <ermo> Could someone help me confirm a python 2.4 issue?
[11:25] <thoreauputic> Mithsir: "doesn't work" is such a common error message... ;)
[11:25] <thoreauputic> critter: did it occur to you i was suggesting youtry doing so and report the error?
[11:26] <viper12> Mithsir.... thoreauputic beat me to it......but a thought: amarok depends on kde stuff.......was your kde base and such in place?
[11:26] <Mithsir> ok here the error messsage that I think actually means something (amarok spites out lots of messages): "amarok:   [aRts-Engine]  [ERROR!]  Cannot initialize PlayObject! Skipping this track."
[11:26] <Mithsir> I believe my kde works fine (I use kde, not gnome, right now)
[11:26] <jason__> hi everyone
[11:27] <viper12> sounds like you've got sound driver issues there. (ubuntu is defaulting to the esd (polyp stuff)......have you changed the multimedia 'sinks' to point to arts?
[11:27] <snoop_> jason__:hi
[11:27] <viper12> and oh, hey there thoreauputic
[11:27] <Mithsir> well, xmms works (with the arts output plugin)...
[11:27] <critter> Dam maybe I dont have universe enabled .. I searched for xdialog . And its not there
[11:27] <viper12> not what i asked Mithsir
[11:28] <Mithsir> viper12, what are MM sinks??
[11:28] <thoreauputic> critter: well, it's in universe
[11:28] <Alessio>  if i make a dist-upgrade.. i get gnome 2.10, right?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> critter: that's why I asked...
[11:28] <jason__> i have a slight problem here...i have two hdds, and i had xp pro on them both. last night, i put ubuntu on this hdd as a master drive, leaving xp as my slave drive.  when i boot up, and grub has the two choices of linus and xp, linux boots fine, but xp does not.
[11:28] <viper12> Mithsir,  System>Preferences> Multimedia selector.
[11:29] <HrdwrBoB> how does it 'not'
[11:29] <Mithsir> viper12, err, I'm using kde, how do I get to that here?
[11:29] <jason__> it displays an error message...to paraphrase, it says 'cannot understand mounted drive"
[11:30] <critter> thoreeauputic going to read up on how to enable it now ...
[11:30] <snoop_> jason__ : not sure about this, but i believe you have to make a change to grub....
[11:30] <jason__> snoop: i am using grub right now
[11:30] <Mithsir> viper12, should I install configlets (afai understand, those dialogs are called configlets?)?
[11:30] <qwm> where can i obtain boot floppy images for ubuntu?
[11:30] <thoreauputic> critter: easiest is in synaptic, settings, repositories - just tick all the boxes
[11:30] <viper12> welp......... Mithsir you said you'd upgraded to hoary.  KDE isn't a default part of that.  I'm describing what comes with hoary.......there is another 'branch' called KUbuntu that has more direct KDE support.
[11:31] <snoop_> jason__: can you boot into xp? or just problems booting in?
[11:31] <jason__> snoop, i cannot boot up into xp at all
[11:31] <ermo> Could anyone with hoary start an interactive python 2.4 session and check if the  'profile' module is included? (type 'help()' at the 1st prompt, then 'modules' at the help prompt)
[11:32] <Mithsir> viper12, well, what I actually use hoary, but not the ubuntu-desktop packet...
[11:32] <snoop_> jason__: see this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=install%20xp%20and%20ubuntu
[11:33] <jason__> snoop, thx
[11:33] <viper12> the development of 'hoary' is Gnome centric Mithsir, and you indicated you did a dist-upgrade to hoary from debian.......and you're not using the 'default' WM, so you may have a whole mess o
[11:33] <viper12> worms causing problems.
[11:33] <snoop_> jason__: no prob...got to go now...hope it works...
[11:33] <viper12> or just something as simple as an out of date lib file.
[11:34] <snoop_> later all..
[11:34] <Mithsir> viper12, hmm. so It's not possible to use kde with ubuntu?
[11:35] <qwm> where can i obtain floppy boot images for ubuntu?
[11:35] <ermo> Mithsir, you use hoary. Could you doublecheck my python issue?
[11:35] <Riddell> Mithsir: yes you can install kde
[11:35] <viper12> didn't say that Mith.  I have KDE installed as an 'alternative' manager for testing and it works fine'.
[11:35] <ermo> Mithsir, (it will only take 1-2 minutes)
[11:36] <Mithsir> ermo, what do I have to do?
[11:36] <thoreauputic> ermo: his hoary install will be atypical if upgraded from Debian
[11:36] <viper12> I said you moved from deb to a development version of ubuntu and are using stuff that isn't "standard" to that install.  its possible one of the libs got munched, any number of things.
[11:36] <Mithsir> viper12, so I should install gnome also?
[11:36] <ermo> Mithsir, never mind then.
[11:36] <ermo> thoreauputic, could you perhaps spare a minute then?
[11:36] <Mithsir> ermo, I already have a python shell open...
[11:37] <ermo> Mithsir, ok. type help()
[11:37] <critter> thoreauputic Thanks a load.. Got both of them now wine tools and xdialog
[11:37] <thoreauputic> ermo: I would, but I'm on Warty, sorry
[11:37] <ermo> thoreauputic, ok. thx anyway.
[11:37] <thoreauputic> critter: ah, good :)
[11:37] <ermo> Mithsir, ok  so far?
[11:37] <Mithsir> ermo, there is no profile module.
[11:37] <ermo> Mithsir, really?
[11:38] <ermo> Mithsir, then it's a bug. 'cause it's supposed to be there
[11:38] <ermo> Mithsir, what ubuntu-python-package do you have?
[11:38] <mlambie> it's taking ages to burn a DVD, is there a tool to test burn speeds?
[11:38] <mlambie> and, can I use hdparm to turn DMA on a DVD-RAM?
[11:39] <qwm> no-one knows if they even exist?
[11:39] <ermo> Mithsir, I have Python 2.4.1a0 (#2, Mar  1 2005, 15:45:39)
[11:40] <thoreauputic> qwm: did you want a "boot floppy" or a floppy nt install disc?
[11:40] <thoreauputic> *net
[11:40] <Mithsir> ermo, cant tell, my apt is just downloading stuff...
[11:40] <qwm> thoreauputic: boot floppy that can load the cdrom..
[11:41] <thoreauputic> qwm: if you just want a boot floppy, the command is mkboot
[11:41] <demi_> lo :)
[11:41] <thoreauputic> qwm: if you want a floppy that can do most things, google for toms root boot
[11:42] <ermo> Mithsir, try quitting the interactive session and start a python -V
[11:42] <Xappe> cool, new art work for Hoary
[11:42] <ermo> Mithsir, (your assistance is much appreciated)
[11:42] <Copons> I was wondering wehen will hoary preview be released?
[11:42] <schweeb> Copons: tomorrow
[11:42] <schweeb> it got delayed due to a kernel issue
[11:43] <Copons> okay, schweeb thanks.
[11:43] <cafuego_> Mind you, it runs just fine right now too.
[11:43] <Mithsir> ermo, Python 2.4.1a0
[11:44] <viper12> welp have fun...off to reboot land to test some changes. :)
[11:44] <ermo> Mithsir, so it would seem that 2.4.1a0 got packaged without the 'profile' module
[11:44] <error_29> Xappe, I kind of like the new art work too, but i can't understand why the removed the old wallpaper.
[11:44] <ermo> Mithsir, thx for you help.
[11:44] <error_29> wish they'd try some other colors besides brown, too
[11:46] <Mithsir> I solved the amarok issue: I installed akode-mpeg
[11:46] <Kirsch> hey guys, hwo can u upgrade to Gnome 2.10?
[11:47] <Copons> wasn't Open Office 2.0 going to be in hoary?
[11:47] <elTigre> hi! A usb card reader should open a folder when plugged in, right? I can't get it to work (hoary)
[11:47] <thoreauputic> Kirsch: gnome 2.10 is now in Hoary
[11:47] <hsoj> yaaar, how's the update goin?
[11:47] <subliminaki> hi!
[11:48] <Nermal> Copons: it is
[11:48] <Nermal> apt-get install openoffice.org2
[11:48] <cocol> kirsch, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:48] <subliminaki> how can i modify the applications menu in gnome? In order to add another section for example
[11:49] <elTigre> hi! A usb card reader should open a folder when plugged in, right? I can't get it to work (hoary)
[11:49] <yaaar> hsoj: done!
[11:49] <Copons> Nermal, i was reading the hoary release announcement draft and it says it ships with OO 1.1.3
[11:49] <hsoj> yaaar, mine just finished as well
[11:49] <yaaar> hsoj: seems to be working fine....no major changes except maybe to the layout
[11:49] <CarlKKpx> i mounted / and /boot and chrooted, did # grub-install /dev/hda; /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive;   now what do I do?
[11:50] <yaaar> hsoj: now i'm working on installing asterisk, which is why i upgraded
[11:50] <ShadowRage> moo
[11:50] <ShadowRage> any way that ubuntu PPC will work with an old world mac? (eg, getting a small boot image to run the installer, etc?
[11:51] <Nermal> Copons: comes with both I guess
[11:51] <ganante> hello, visit my website - http://decio_ganante.web.simplesnet.pt
[11:51] <hsoj> yaaar, oooh... pbx niftyness :)
[11:51] <ShadowRage> hello?
[11:52] <nu2ubuntu> hello
[11:52] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: my guess is, nobody has an answer
[11:52] <thoreauputic> at least,  not yet ( after2minutes?)
[11:53] <ShadowRage> well, will it work on a 120 mhz ppc?
[11:53] <ShadowRage> powermac 8500/120
[11:53] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: a good guess would be "no"
[11:53] <ermo> I'm somewhat daunted by the ubuntu bugzilla - anyone care to walk me through submitting a proper bug-report?
[11:53] <nico2012> hi all
[11:54] <nu2ubuntu> I have a dvd with files on it that I put into my drive in order to see if totem would play the media I have on there and now it won't eject the disc.  Is there anything I can do about this short of turning off my pc and manually ejecting it?
[11:54] <hsoj> are there any things that i should apt-get that I can't live without?
[11:54] <nico2012> just here to ask a little question : I've upgraded my hoary five minutes ago and, surprise ( bad surprise ) my ubuntu human theme seems to be broken
[11:55] <mlambie> nu2ubuntu: is the disc mounted? try right-clicking on the CD icon and unmounting it
[11:55] <nico2012> have anyone experienced this ? :s
[11:55] <thoreauputic> hsoj: yeah, xpenguins ;)
[11:55] <hsoj> :)
[11:55] <farruinn> nico2012: it was on the ubuntu-devel mailing list, I think you need to install the clearlooks engine
[11:56] <error_29> hsoj, xine if you love movies
[11:56] <nu2ubuntu> mlambie: no the disc is not mounted.  I tried right clicking and clicking eject and it gave me an error.  Afte the error, the disc was unmounted.  I tried remounting and ejecting again with the same result.
[11:56] <Mithsir> Is there an easy way to setup my keyboards multimedia keys?
[11:56] <nico2012> ow ok farruin i'll go read this thanks
[11:56] <nico2012> i'll done the update first
[11:56] <farruinn> nico2012: gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[11:56] <Fator_Dee> Mithsir: there was a howto about it on the forums
[11:57] <ermo> ShadowRage, that machine is fairly low spec. Even if you *could* install ubuntu, the question to ask is probably 'should you?'
[11:57] <Blissex> Mithsir: depends what you mean by that, but ask in #Gnome about key shortcuts...
[11:57] <error_29> hey, has anyone actually used the "hibernate'' option in hoary?  Does it really work?  All it does for me is lock the screen.
[11:57] <ShadowRage> ermo: it isnt that bad off
[11:57] <ShadowRage> I run debian on it
[11:57] <ShadowRage> no X yet
[11:57] <mlambie> error_29: I have a thinkpad R40 and it works fine for me
[11:58] <subliminaki> How i edit the applications menu????
[11:58] <mlambie> error_29: i installed hoary fresh rather than dost-upgrading though, which meant that my swap space was large enough.
[11:58] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: I'd be inclined to stick with debian, since you have it working
[11:58] <error_29> mlambie, does "hibernate" mean what it does in, say, WinXp -- system shuts down, after saving the current state to the hard drive
[11:58] <mlambie> error_29: yeah
[11:59] <error_29> ah hah!  of course, the swap...
[11:59] <ermo> ShadowRage, actually, I was about to suggest you try debian - but ...
[11:59] <error_29> doh!
[11:59] <ShadowRage> k
[11:59] <error_29> like an idiot, I was thinking it would create  a temp folder in /
[11:59] <mlambie> error_29: you need to pass the swap partition into the kernel as a boot option. it's on the powermanagment howto :)
[11:59] <thoreauputic> subliminaki: are you using warty?
[12:00] <subliminaki> i'm using hoary


[00:15] <smallfoot-> trism, I use Quantal (upgraded from Precise), when I type 'python --version', it says 2.7.3
[00:15] <trism> smallfoot-: yes, that is the version of python2.7, what is the problem?
[00:16] <smallfoot-> i thought they removed python 2?
[00:16] <smallfoot-> and is ONLY gonna have python 3 installed?
[00:16] <smallfoot-> and that /usr/bin/python will be version 3
[00:17] <trism> smallfoot-: python2.7 will still be in the repos, python3 is python3.2
[00:17] <trism> smallfoot-: I think the plan is only python3 on the iso though
[00:17] <smallfoot-> oh
[00:17] <Daekdroom> Yeah, and that means they'll focus on making the transition for what's in the ISO.
[00:17] <smallfoot-> wont they make /usr/bin/python be py3?
[00:18] <smallfoot-> and let /usr/bin/python2 be py2?
[00:22] <smallfoot-> do i need the package 'linux-firmware' installed?
[00:22] <Daekdroom> Possible.
[00:23] <Daekdroom> Why remove it?
[00:23] <smallfoot-> oh, it depends on 'linux-generic'
[00:23] <smallfoot-> so i guess i neeed it
[00:23] <smallfoot-> because i dont want binary blobs on my systme
[10:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:18] <Chromeboy> Hi guys, I'm looking to upgrade my 12.04 to 12.10, what's the best way to go about this for a machine inside virtual box?
[13:29] <FernandoMiguel> Chromeboy: the usual way: update-manager -d
[13:29] <FernandoMiguel> or cli way: do-release-upgrade
[13:30] <FernandoMiguel> !upgrade | Chromeboy
[13:30] <Chromeboy> I tried both of those routes but I kept getting a return that there were no updates
[13:31] <Chromeboy> ubottu: thanks for the links
[13:36] <FernandoMiguel> Chromeboy: lsb_release -a says what?
[13:38] <Chromeboy> FernandoMiguel: 12.10 - I feel like such a tool, sorry for wasting your time, but thanks for the help.
[13:38] <FernandoMiguel> :D
[13:38] <FernandoMiguel> welcome to +1
[13:38] <FernandoMiguel> do a reboot and make sure everything is working
[13:38] <Chromeboy> FernandoMiguel: I was looking at System Settings - Details
[13:39] <FernandoMiguel> at least for me, current kernel is failing to resume from suspend.. need to debug that and file a bug
[13:39] <Chromeboy> thanks for the welcome :)
[13:39] <Chromeboy> yeah, at least now I know not to trust the details pane
[13:39] <Chromeboy> still says 12.04
[13:44] <FernandoMiguel> or wallpapers or logins info
[19:32] <genii-around> Is anyone else getting where if you boot recovery, then choose enable networking.. it wants to now jump to runlevel 2 and start the dm ?


[06:25] <mup> PR snapd#13031 closed: many: add capability to create missing directories for personal-files interface <Created by ernestl> <Closed by ernestl> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13031>
[07:15] <mup> PR snapd#13315 closed: tests: skip layout-change test in all arm devices <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13315>
[07:15] <mup> PR snapd#13329 closed: tests: fix selinux policy to support change in polkit_agent interface <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13329>
[08:55] <mup> PR snapd#13330 opened: systemd: Make sure confined mount units are mounted after snapd-apparmor <Created by valentindavid> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13330>
[10:11] <mup> PR snapd#12981 closed: gadget: add kernel parameters from "append" in gadget yaml <Run nested> <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Created by valentindavid> <Closed by valentindavid> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12981>
[12:56] <mup> PR snapd#13331 opened: many: update recovery boot assets <Needs Samuele review> <Run nested> <Run Nested -auto-> <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13331>
[14:31] <mup> PR snapd#13332 opened: boot: lock the modeenv while reading revisions <Created by valentindavid> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13332>
[17:06] <mup> PR snapcraft#4417 closed: chore(deps): update ruff to 0.1.1 and fix lint issues <Created by lengau> <Merged by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4417>
[18:01] <mup> PR snapcraft#4422 opened: [DRAFT] ci: collapse linters in github actions <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4422>
[19:31] <mup> PR snapcraft#4423 opened: chore(pyproject): quote versions <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4423>
[21:17] <mup> PR snapcraft#4424 opened: chore(log): hide details error in the log when pack failed <Created by syu-w> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4424>
[22:07] <mup> PR snapcraft#4425 opened: chore: migrate dev environment to ubuntu 22.04 and python 3.10 <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4425>


[10:22] <Rhonda> lunar seems to be the next devel release, but I don't find it in the archive?  I try to update the packages website for it.
[10:25] <Unit193> !info screen lunar
[10:28] <Unit193> That is, seems to be there as per usual?  I don't have any different config for it than I did for any other release.
[16:04] <KBar> Not sure how you do it, but the archive has it: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/lunar/
[17:14] <Eickmeyer> KBar: I sponsored your fix for kubuntu-wallpapers. Just FYI: the Kubuntu team doesn't use git-ubuntu. Don't know if they ever will, and any fixes for Kubuntu-specific packages you'll need to ask directly in #kubuntu-devel for.
[17:14] <Eickmeyer> (they don't watch this channel)
[17:25]  * RikMills watches Eickmeyer
[17:26] <Eickmeyer> Oh! TIL!
[17:28] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: KBar's request for sponsorship for a fix to kubuntu-wallpapers happened in June. You probably saw the request in another chat from rbasak, and I took on the sponsorship. SRU is done just maturing in -proposed at this point.
[17:29] <Eickmeyer> (literally just a Description oversight in d/control)


[03:35] <dwg> yes
[07:55] <evfool> can anyone take a look at bug #839464 and bug #829635 ... its about a GLib call crashing the apps, but for one bug it's because it has 2 params instead of 1, and the other crashes because it has 1 param instead of 2
[07:59] <evfool> bug 839464 and bug 829635 anyone?
[11:39] <afeder> Anyone here with network-manager expertise?
[11:39] <afeder> Can someone please help me with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/826260
[11:48] <afeder> join #ubuntu-devel
[11:48] <afeder> (oops)
[16:58] <steemed> Anyone want to triage or fix this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/841569
[17:01] <taggerdoodles> steemed: st33med?
[17:02] <steemed> paultag: !
[17:03] <steemed> Yes! :D
[17:03] <paultag> steemed: :) How's College, man?
[17:03] <paultag> steemed: I'll triage that bug
[17:03] <steemed> OK. Facing depression and such. Uphill battle.
[17:03] <paultag> steemed: ♥
[17:04] <steemed> paultag: <3
[17:04] <paultag> steemed: I can't reproduce here - how exactly do you get the menu that fails?
[17:05] <steemed> paultag: it's in oneric
[17:05] <paultag> I used 323 and it attempted to connect to `323'
[17:05] <paultag> steemed: Ah, OK
[17:05] <paultag> steemed: was this present on natty?
[17:06] <steemed> No
[17:06] <paultag> OK, righto
[17:09] <paultag> steemed: regression-potential/triaged/low
[17:09] <paultag> this won't affect most people, I think
[17:10] <paultag> steemed: Have time for a PM?
[17:21] <steemed> Sure
[17:21] <steemed> paultag: yes
[20:12] <darkcharl> hello