[09:06] <dura> If there is one just add that line to it.
[09:06] <ganteng> hi
[09:06] <ganteng> hi
[09:06] <Lorri> and just leave it at that right
[09:06] <Ademan> zcat[1] : !!!!
[09:06] <Lorri> Thanks
[09:07] <dura> Lorri, Yes... save it, and log out.
[09:07] <dura> then back in.
[09:07] <Lorri> ok
[09:07] <ganteng> hi
[09:08] <dura> Hi ganadist
[09:08] <dura> :|
[09:08] <dura> ganteng,
[09:09] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[09:09] <martii> xprisoner: so any clue what's wrong?
[09:10] <ganteng> any one can help it is my first time chat
[09:10] <dura> What do you need?
[09:10] <Toma-> !scanner
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[09:10] <fyrestrtr> does anyone have experience with shorewall? When you set a rule, is it automatically inbound and outbound, or just inbound? ACCEPT loc1:<IP_ADDRESS> net tcp 8080 <-- something like this, for example.
[09:11] <dura> fyrestrtr, Look in /etc/shorewall/rules
[09:11] <Lorri> dura didn't work
[09:11] <Lorri> :(
[09:11] <witless> ganteng: what do you need help with?
[09:11] <dura> Lorri, Okay... then you'll have to find the startup file in /etc and add the same thing to it.
[09:11] <dura> Non big deal...
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> dura: that's where I got that line from :P
[09:11] <Lorri> what was the file that you told me to edit before
[09:12] <Lorri> >_< I forgot what I wanted to put in it
[09:12] <Lorri> xD
[09:12] <neutrinomass> Anybody with a USB ADSL modem ?
[09:12] <dura> lol
[09:12] <ganteng> it is also my first time use linuk specialy ubuntu, why my browsing very slow, people said that linuk is the leader in browsing
[09:12] <nyersa> so, is it normal behaviour for OO.o writer to crash when I click on "tools, macro, run macro..." on a default dapper load?
[09:12] <neutrinomass> nyersa: No, file a bug at launchpad http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs . Take a look for a duplicate first ...
[09:12] <Lorri> dura: was it something like .xinit
[09:13] <dura> Yes
[09:13] <dura> without the . in /etc
[09:13] <dura> If you can't find it let me know I'll look... I'm ssh
[09:13] <dura> :|
[09:13] <Khaotik> What do you guys choose, Gnome or Fluxbox?
[09:13] <dura> If you can't find it let me know I'll look... I'm ssh'd into 6 Ubuntu boxen lol.
[09:13] <xprisoner> martii: no, i'm trying to gather more info on it now. i'll post in the forum about it as well.
[09:13] <elijah> i disabled ntpdate with sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove.....how do i enable it?
[09:13] <dura> I choose FVWM-Crystal.
[09:13] <gdb> Anyone here running on a Dell Optiplex GX620?
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> elijah: same command, replace remove with add (I think)
[09:14] <Khaotik> I have both Fb installed
[09:14] <Lorri> dura:  I can't find it
[09:14] <Lorri> D:
[09:14] <Khaotik> but i cant seem to get things set up the way i want
[09:14] <Khaotik> It sorta reminded me of LiteStep shell for windowze
[09:14] <neutrinomass> nyersa: If you end up filing a bug, please get a backtrace following http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash :) It's really neccessary...
[09:14] <dura> lol
[09:14] <Lorri> I'll just find it myself
[09:14] <Lorri> D:
[09:14] <nyersa> neutrinomass: k, will do
[09:14] <dura> Hang on
[09:14] <Scorpmoon> there's no flash for Ubuntu x64 ?
[09:14] <Lorri> Got it
[09:14] <Lorri> xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[09:14] <Lorri> anyway
[09:15] <Lorri> How do I do it?
[09:15] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: No... complain to macromedia :)
[09:15] <Khaotik> gdb i had kubuntu running on a optiplex Gl but i do not know about the GX620
[09:15] <redblades> Heh heh heh, I just got movie player to play DVD's, but I can't work out how to select things from the menu
[09:16] <Scorpmoon> but there's flash for XP and Vista x64?
[09:16] <redblades> Any help?
[09:16] <Khaotik> redblades
[09:16] <redblades> yeah?
[09:16] <dura> I'm glad Gentoo-AMD64 can use flash.
[09:16] <Khaotik> did u install all of the libdvd nav?
[09:16] <dura> :)
[09:16] <Scorpmoon> what other things am I missing out on, running x64
[09:16] <dura> :isn't missing anything
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> redblades: use the mouse :)
[09:16] <redblades> I think so... Khaotik, more info? Oh and did you solve your issue?
[09:16] <Khaotik> XD
[09:16] <Khaotik> Nope
[09:16] <dura> Java... flash... wifi... ATi... all work excellent.
[09:16] <Khaotik> not yet
[09:16] <Healot> dura, the same on ubuntu, even the same technique is use
[09:17] <amarokker> Hi
[09:17] <dura> Healot, Ubuntu is using multilib now?
[09:17] <Khaotik> Well i never had a problem with menus
[09:17] <Khaotik> I just installed libdvdcss2
[09:17] <amarokker> can someone tell me why i cant ping localhost?
[09:17] <Khaotik> and it was a snap
[09:17] <redblades> fyrestrtr: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[09:17] <Lorri> dura: do I have to add #!/bin/sh to the top
[09:17] <ganteng> who will help me some body pleas
[09:17] <Lorri> of my new file
[09:17] <redblades> Oh dear that is fnny
[09:17] <dura> Lorri, No... that's for a bash script.
[09:17] <Lorri> oh ok
[09:17] <Lorri> so just make xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[09:17] <Khaotik> I recommend xine-ui
[09:17] <Lorri> and add it to startup
[09:17] <Khaotik> for dvds
[09:17] <dura> yes
[09:17] <Khaotik> It is very good
[09:17] <redblades> MSG TO ALL: I just had to use the mouse
[09:17] <Lorri> kk
[09:17] <garryfre> There is a file where the system is to define localhost, maybe that line is missing?
[09:17] <elijah> fyrestrtr, ok thx
[09:18] <Khaotik> XD
[09:18] <redblades> I didn't even think
[09:18] <Khaotik> redblades good job
[09:18] <Khaotik> :>
[09:18] <redblades> fyrestrtr: yes, thankyou very much
[09:18] <dura> garryfre, What does /etc/resolv.conf have in it?
[09:18] <redblades> Wait, can somebody say my name?
[09:18] <redblades> "type it"
[09:18] <lxIT> Hello all
[09:18] <Khaotik> redblades
[09:18] <dura> redblades
[09:18] <Khaotik> ?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> ermm, /etc/resolv.conf is not going to help with localhost. Most likely lo is not up.
[09:19] <redblades> Thanks, I was trying to discern the highlighting Gaim uses
[09:19] <dura> If he can't ping?
[09:19] <dura> He didn't say what he was trying to ping.
[09:19] <redblades> It makes it mustard
[09:19] <garryfre> dura lemme see. I can ping my localhost myself.
[09:19] <Khaotik> Nobody has replied to my Audio problem
[09:19] <Khaotik> :(
[09:19] <redblades> coloured
[09:19] <dura> garryfre, But not www.yahoo.com ?
[09:19] <redblades> I'm sorry, I don't know
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> I think he said he can't ping localhost.
[09:19] <amarokker> fyrestrtr: then how do I get lo up?
[09:19] <dura> garryfre, is the ethernet interface connected and up?
[09:19] <redblades> Khaotic, I know you have, but try Google again, be very specific, (but no too much) : )
[09:19] <lxIT> Khaotik: What's the problem you have?
[09:19] <dura> He just said he can
[09:19] <amarokker> I think there's a problem in the interfaces file.
[09:20] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[09:20] <Khaotik> well lxIT
[09:20] <Khaotik> thats the link at the end
[09:20] <garryfre> dura My pings seem to work fine. I was trying to help someone who said they could not ping localhost.
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> amarokker: first, what does ifconfig show you?
[09:20] <lxIT> Khaotik: I saw it... I have no experience wit Digital sound output, but I can check it out...
[09:20] <dura> tell them to see what ifconfig says about lo
[09:20] <dura>  /sbin/ifconfig
[09:21] <dura> Khaotik, What chipset is that?
[09:21] <amarokker> fyrestrtr: http://rafb.net/paste/results/s6HkTN53.html
[09:21] <dura> I just say something in the Gentoo kernel about that
[09:21] <dura> saw
[09:21] <dura> ffs
[09:22] <lxIT> Is there someone who's been able to get DMA working on a SATA DVD-RW? I always get the error "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[09:22] <Khaotik> Im not sure dura
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> amarokker: you are missing lo (loopback device)
[09:22] <Khaotik> Let me find the stats for the card
[09:22] <dura> I'll have to check into that... it's good though whichever way they're getting it done.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> lxIT: DMA only works on IDE devices, not SATA.
[09:22] <Scorpmoon> whats a keyboard shortcut to open terminal?
[09:22] <amarokker> fyrestrtr: let me with -a this time
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> Scorpmoon: ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[09:23] <dura> hehe fyrestrtr
[09:23] <Scorpmoon> the GUI terminal
[09:23] <dura> ncurses is a GUI :P
[09:23] <Scorpmoon> is gnome running on ctrl+alt+f7 ?
[09:23] <lxIT> fyrestrtr: Mmmm... I've read some different things on www
[09:23] <amarokker> http://rafb.net/paste/results/d0SgvK52.html
[09:23] <estupendocero> I need help getting my display configured. I have an early flat-panel display that Ubuntu didn't detect properly at install. I only get 800x600, and there is a black bar around the edge of the screen where it is not being used.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> Scorpmoon: yes.
[09:24] <Khaotik> dura: 1373 chipset
[09:24] <estupendocero> I am kind of n00by, but not a complete moron; I've tried to fix it before and failed
[09:24] <garryfre> !fixres
[09:24] <dura> Khaotik, Let me have a look in the kernel again.
[09:24] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:24] <lxIT> If I try "hdparm -I /dev/scd0" I get the error "HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error"
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> lxIT: again, DMA *does not apply* to SATA drives.
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> amarokker: paste the output of cat /etc/hosts
[09:25] <Igramul> lxIT: hdparm -I /dev/scd    - hdparm does also not apply to partitions
[09:25] <witless> Khaotik: you say you can hear the analog signal but not the digital
[09:25] <Khaotik> witless: correct
[09:25] <lxIT> Igramul: Thanks
[09:25] <witless> Many cards can do both analog and digital (labeled SPDIF/IEC958) output, but some cannot do both at the same time.
[09:25] <witless> If you hear no sound, it may be because the card is in analog mode and you have digital speakers or viceversa.
[09:25] <witless> To determine which mixer channels controls the switch between analog and digital for your card look at the page for your card.
[09:25] <witless> Often this is called Analog/Digital Output Jack. If present, mute/unmute it to switch between digital and analog sound output.
[09:26] <witless> did you see any such option in alsamixer?
[09:26] <Khaotik> Everything is unmuted. There is no SPDIF
[09:26] <Khaotik> just the single output and mic and line in
[09:26] <lxIT> Igramul: I get a "/dev/scd: No such file or directory" > /dev/dvdrw is pointing to /dev/scd0
[09:27] <amarokker> fyrestrtr: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ar3p5O77.html
[09:27] <Khaotik> i see an option for the IEC958
[09:27] <nzx> hi, does the new 2.6.15-25 kernel support sata disks ?
[09:27] <witless> what i pasted suggested that the mute state may toggle between analog/digital
[09:27] <garryfre> nzx: Yes, it sure does.
[09:28] <Lorri> To add a command that requires root to startup
[09:28] <nzx> garryfre, it wont boot on my machine, laptop with sata disk, hangs at loading root partition
[09:28] <Lorri> do I have to add sudo infront of the command in the file
[09:28] <Khaotik> witless: I muted/unmuted everything
[09:28] <Lorri> and if so, do I need to enter my password
[09:28] <Lorri> at startup
[09:28] <Khaotik> Nothing
[09:28] <witless> *shrug*
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> amarokker: okay, and what happens when you ping localhost?
[09:29] <Khaotik> *sigh*
[09:29] <amarokker> timez out
[09:29] <garryfre> nzx Hmm, check to see that the root designation in grub is correct and that the sata dev names are correct.
[09:29] <Toma-> !scanner
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[09:29] <amarokker> after this line: PING localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[09:29] <nzx> garryfre, it has root=/dev/sda1, which is correct
[09:29] <witless> update complete - time to reboot
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> same thing happens when you do ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[09:30] <garryfre> nzx did the earlier kernels work?
[09:30] <amarokker> yeah, same thing- i've been trying to figure this out for days on now-
[09:30] <nzx> garryfre, yep, using 2.6.15-23 righ now
[09:30] <amarokker> it is helpful tp know about the devices i have open.
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> amarokker: does it happen when you disconnect from your adsl?
[09:31] <garryfre> nzx and the only difference between the kernel you are using now and the new one is the kernel file name? All devices should be the same.
[09:32] <amarokker> i've not checked that yet- i am using an eagle-USB modem (ppp0) that creates the eth1 device- i've used pppoeconf to get it working- but that still doesnt help network - it cant get up...wait let me check- brb
[09:32] <nzx> garryfre, yep
[09:32] <lxIT> Trying "hdparm -I /dev/scd0" {SATA-DVD} is giving me the error "HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error", while trying "hdparm -I /dev/sda1" {SATA-HD} is working without a problem...
[09:32] <xprisoner> does anyone know how to tell what packages were updated in the updates tonight? is there a log?
[09:32] <to> hi
[09:33] <Khaotik> Should i upgrade to dapper from breezy?
[09:33] <xprisoner> yes
[09:33] <Scorpmoon> i can't select screen resolutions above 1024x768!
[09:33] <garryfre> sounds like you have discovered a true genuine bug there. I'd report that one.
[09:33] <lxIT> Khaotik: Yes!! Dapper rocks!!
[09:33] <Scorpmoon> i tried adding modes in xorg.conf, but still no
[09:33] <Khaotik> I hear automatix currently only works with breezy
[09:33] <Khaotik> ?
[09:33] <polpak> !resolution
[09:33] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:33] <xprisoner> works on dapper too
[09:33] <Khaotik> Ah
[09:33] <amarokker> fyrestrtr: oh, now it says- when I ping, that the network is not reachable
[09:33] <Khaotik> Ok its apt-get distupgrade right?
[09:34] <xprisoner> there is a newer ver for dapper
[09:34] <xprisoner> oh
[09:34] <xprisoner> i would do a fresh install
[09:34] <Khaotik> Oh
[09:34] <Khaotik> :(
[09:34] <xprisoner> my upgrade was ugly.
[09:34] <ormiret> Khaotik: update manager can do the upgrade
[09:34] <MrSmile> Hi people, I have installed ubuntu, and I don't know how to configure the xserver
[09:34] <Khaotik> armiret
[09:35] <Khaotik> ormiret will it cause any problems you think
[09:35] <garryfre> Easybuntu now works with dapper as well. I tried it last night. I can now play the videos and songs
[09:35] <MrSmile> can somebody tell me, which is the configure command to configure the xserver?
[09:35] <Khaotik> And will it keep my ap sources?
[09:35] <lxIT> MrSmile: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xsever-xorg"
[09:35] <Khaotik> apt*
[09:35] <MrSmile> I did it ones before, but I don't know anymore :(
[09:35] <lxIT> MrSmile: That's *xserver-xorg
[09:35] <nzx> garryfre, how do i report it ?
[09:35] <lxIT> (forgot the r)
[09:35] <amarokker> Can someone explain to me why things get so complex when I have two network devices on my computer- one an adsl/usb modem, and another one an onboard ethernet card?
[09:36] <MrSmile> what is the full command?
[09:36] <MrSmile> I have no idea anymore :(
[09:36] <ormiret> Khaotik: it should be fairly clean - it has logic to chack things are happening sanely, but it does depend how far your system is from a stock breezy install
[09:36] <garryfre> !bugs
[09:36] <MrSmile> lxIT: Could you please tell me the full command?
[09:36] <amarokker> and fyrestrtr: your concern is highly appreciated.
[09:36] <Khaotik> Ah
[09:37] <lxIT> MrSmile: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:37] <ormiret> Khaotik: yes to the apt sources
[09:37] <garryfre> say nzx On the default page for Foxfire, should be a link for reporting bugs.
[09:37] <Khaotik> For some reason when i run synaptic there is nothing to check off
[09:37] <Khaotik> only what is already installed
[09:37] <nzx> garryfre, thanks
[09:37] <witless> amarokker: what's complex?
[09:37] <garryfre> nzx welcome.
[09:37] <ormiret> Khaotik: update-manager rather than synaptic
[09:38] <Khaotik> ag
[09:38] <Khaotik> ah
[09:38] <amarokker> witless: networking- now, as i understand, the address is assigned for the device connected to my internet through DHCP right-?
[09:38] <amarokker> then how the heck do i get the ethernet card (which is not connected to a network) to work properly? without it, does localhost work?
[09:38] <witless> amarokker: i would assume so
[09:39] <garryfre> Seems nzx has this laptop, that if he boots with the next to the latest kernel, it boots fine, if he boots with current one for dapper, it hangs on boot. Sounds like a bug to me since the only thing that changed is the kernel file name. Any other ideas? Devices in his grub match etc etc, same hardware etc.
[09:40] <Khaotik> May i ask, what is so great about dapper?
[09:40] <garryfre> We like new shiney stuff. :)
[09:40] <nzx> garryfre, its a sony vaio s3xp, if that helps
[09:40] <garryfre> nzx It will help them to know.
[09:40] <nzx> Khaotik, my usb tv stick works on dapper :)
[09:40] <Khaotik> hehe
[09:41] <Khaotik> Thats how i felt when i went from Kubuntu to Ubuntu
[09:41] <Khaotik> For some reason no USB storage device worked on it
[09:41] <nzx> only if i could get my memory card reader work
[09:41] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> excuse me, may I ask a fool question?
[09:41] <garryfre> And with the new release, people are asking questions that occasionally I can help with. :)
[09:42] <Unintentional> M-Wei|Ub-Mac: go for it.
[09:42] <ormiret> M-Wei|Ub-Mac: certainly  - I might be able to answer it )
[09:42] <Khaotik> wow i love ubuntus servers
[09:42] <Khaotik> only 15 mins to upgrade to dapper
[09:42] <Khaotik> :)
[09:42] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> who is using dual screen with different resolusion?
[09:43] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> s/resolution/resolution/
[09:43] <bthornton> are there any "pre-packaged" solution in Ubuntu for setting up a simple iptables/NAT box for a network?  (something where I don't have to go edit individual 'iptables' statements)
[09:44] <denton> hi, i need help. I compiled without errors music applet 0.9.2 http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~kuliniew/music-applet/, but after sudo make install i don't have it in "add to panel" menu
[09:44] <visham> hi folks!!
[09:44] <zOap> Was there abig update to dapper yesterday?
[09:44] <bthornton> zOap: referring to the big software update?  I noticed.
[09:44] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> I have a problem with my iBook, I need a larger screen to do with Scribus.
[09:44] <bthornton> I'd imagine so.
[09:45] <garryfre> Yes there was z.
[09:45] <witless> i just installed a big update, rebooted, and now there's another big update  :-)
[09:45] <visham> i have 128 mb ram how do i make gnome to run faster???
[09:45] <zOap> bthornton, yeah, the update manager wanted to update 59 packages. which is a little high
[09:45] <Healot> add more RAM, visham
[09:45] <witless> visham: add more ram?
[09:45] <amarokker> I wonder what happened to Firetech
[09:45] <Khaotik> lol
[09:45] <visham> any other solutions??
[09:45] <Khaotik> I have 36something mb
[09:45] <Khaotik> and it runs good on my P3
[09:45] <bthornton> zOap: yeah.  there was a time when that'd bother me, but not anymore now that I have a big pipe to the Internet :)
[09:45] <Healot> visham: nay, RAM
[09:45] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> I've tweaked /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but I can only see extended "desktop" in GDM, not in GNOME.
[09:45] <amarokker> i mean, fyrestrtr
[09:46] <witless> visham: use a lightweight environment like fluxbox or xfce
[09:46] <zOap> hehe
[09:46] <Khaotik> or buy a 512mb stick or more
[09:46] <zOap> I have 16 megabit
[09:46] <Khaotik> u can get them cheap at http://tigerdirect.com
[09:46] <visham> i use xfce also but progs like firefox and even the terminal take time to load
[09:46] <witless> 128 is pretty lean
[09:46] <spikeb> under xfce things load pretty quickly.
[09:47] <visham> compared to RH9 which i was using earlier on the same config things were faster
[09:47] <RamiKassab> hey guys, I'm in dire need of finding a method to run my installation of windows xp within linux
[09:47] <bthornton> RamiKassab: vmware
[09:47] <spikeb> visham: part of it is probably simply due to bloat
[09:47] <bthornton> !vmware
[09:47] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[09:47] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I can't use VM Ware because a VM is for creating and testing a new installation
[09:47] <witless> visham: have you done the usual disabling of all unused services?
[09:47] <armedking> Anyone have an idea of running a public file server on ubuntu  with ease? More or less like the Public File server applet in KDE
[09:47] <lin> damn, this menu prob with "keyboard label" is still present
[09:48] <visham> not completely
[09:48] <bthornton> RamiKassab: that was fast--you had that response ready :p
[09:48] <lin> is there already a bug report??
[09:48] <RamiKassab> lol I was in the middle of typing it
[09:48] <Geev8> hi all online
[09:48] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Who could answer my question?
[09:48] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I knew you guys would suggest vmware because I've talking to quite a few people about this already
[09:48] <bthornton> RamiKassab: out of curiosity, what do you need that a full VM won't provide you?
[09:48] <witless> visham: you might try xubuntu-desktop as well
[09:49] <bthornton> RamiKassab: I can think of no better way to run one operating system "within" another
[09:49] <RamiKassab> bthornton: well as far as my understanding goes, a vm isn't for running a pre-installed OS
[09:49] <garryfre> Well, it involves listing your monitors in xorg.conf and the reslolutions, and all that fun. I'm sure there is a page on it, but I don't know where.
[09:49] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I even asked the guys in the vmware channel and they recommended not to use vmware for a pre-installed OS
[09:49] <bthornton> bthornton: You mean that you already have Windows installed on another disk/partition and simply want to run that within Linux?
[09:49] <visham> tell me how to disable the unused services
[09:49] <RamiKassab> bthornton: yes
[09:50] <witless> visham: are you in ubuntu now?
[09:50] <RamiKassab> bthornton: assuming your last message was meant for me
[09:50] <Khaotik> Can anyone point me in the direction of a guide on Setting up deal monitors
[09:50] <visham> witless: yes
[09:50] <Khaotik> To streach the desktop across each
[09:50] <Geev8> i have a problem when i copy file to my floppy it says i dont have permission
[09:50] <witless> try System, Administration, Services
[09:50] <RamiKassab> bthornton: have you heard of win4lin?
[09:50] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Khaotik: I have the same problem~>"<~....
[09:50] <Khaotik> hehe
[09:50] <bthornton> RamiKassab: Ah.  Well I see now why they would wouldn't suggest that: the VMWare creates a new "virtual machine" with its own "virtual hardware".  That'd be the equavilant of taking a windows HDD out of one PC and slapping it in a new PC--Windows doesn't like that because the drivers are all different.
[09:50] <visham> witless: the gdm is off iam in the console
[09:51] <Khaotik> I have a Sapphire Radeon X300 on a machine with Dual 19in KDS USA LCD's
[09:51] <bthornton> RamiKassab: I have
[09:51] <Khaotik> They are so sexy
[09:51] <Khaotik> and id kill for dualies on Linux
[09:51] <RamiKassab> bthornton: exactly, I just want to boot my already installed windows within Linux so I can access some proprietary software on it
[09:51] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Khaotik: I am using iBook with external display.
[09:52] <graveson> what can i use to manage my desktop remotely via the internet
[09:52] <witless> visham: in that case, look at the services in /etc/init.d/ and decide which ones you don't need.  try stopping them with   /etc/init.d/<service> stop  ; then see if things run faster.  you can disable the service permanently with the update-rc.d  command
[09:52] <RamiKassab> bthornton: would win4lin be what I am looking for?
[09:52] <Khaotik> Ouch
[09:52] <Khaotik> I was thinking of getting an iBook
[09:52] <Khaotik> Which is better iBook or Powerbook?
[09:52] <Toma-> !scanner
[09:52] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[09:52] <RamiKassab> graveson: RDP - remote desktop protocol
[09:52] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Khaotik: It's better to get MacBook now.
[09:52] <bthornton> RamiKassab: If there are specific applications you want to run from that Windows installation, you might have luck with WINE (*might* is the key word).
[09:52] <Khaotik> Ah
[09:52] <RamiKassab> graveson: are you trying to manage a windows or linux machine remotely?
[09:52] <Khaotik> I been running an older iMac for years now
[09:52] <Khaotik> 400mhz
[09:53] <witless> RamiKassab: do you have an extra ,achine?
[09:53] <witless> machine?
[09:53] <Khaotik> 256mb Pc100ram
[09:53] <Khaotik> :)
[09:53] <graveson> ramikassab: my ubuntu desktop
[09:53] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Khaotik: umm.....
[09:53] <bthornton> RamiKassab: But if your intention is to run a full session within Linux, there is no "smart" way of doing that because the session will try to load the drivers for the native, physical hardware that it was installed on.  Linux already has control of those devices, so without another layer in there (VMWare), there is no way for Windows to access that hardware.
[09:53] <RamiKassab> witless: yeah I do but I travel a lot and need these business apps with me
[09:53] <visham> witless: ok man thnx i will try that
[09:53] <witless> RamiKassab: ah
[09:53] <RamiKassab> witless: I have a lot of extra machines :) I have 3 laptops actually
[09:54] <witless> i was going to suggest stuffing one under a desk and using vnc, but not practical if you're on the road
[09:54] <bthornton> RamiKassab: I don't know much about win4lin...
[09:54] <bthornton> !win4lin
[09:54] <ubotu> bthornton: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:54] <bthornton> looks like ubotu doesn't either
[09:54] <RamiKassab> bthornton: darn
[09:55] <RamiKassab> bthornton: btw, I looked at Wine and Quickbooks and other various apps just don't even work with Wine
[09:55] <Geev8> I receave tis error when i coppy file to floppy disk (Error while copying to "/media/floppy0"  "You do not have permmision to write to this folder")
[09:55] <Toma-> ok, i can use my scaner as root, but not as an ordinary user. Any help?
[09:55] <Geev8> what am i suppors to do
[09:56] <bthornton> bthornton: This is true in many (most?) cases.  I'm not a fan of WINE at all myself.
[09:56] <witless> Toma-: are you a member of the scanner group?
[09:56] <Toma-> witless, indeed i am
[09:56] <RamiKassab> bthornton: yeah it doesn't seem too helpful because most of the apps that one would NEED to run in Linux because there is no plausible replacement aren't supported
[09:56] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Someone else has the answer?
[09:57] <RamiKassab> graveson: sorry for the delay, rdp or vnc would work for you
[09:57] <bthornton> RamiKassab: What in particular are you trying to run?
[09:57] <chris_> anyone know why i close my laptop lid and i have to use the alt key and some f something to get it working
[09:57] <RamiKassab> graveson: I believe ubuntu has VNC built into it, correct me if I am wrong guys
[09:57] <garryfre> Geev8: Under /system/Administration/users and groups find your account, click properties and then user priveleges and make sure the floppy box is checked.
[09:57] <Toma-> witless, heres the ls from the scanner device "0 crw-rw-rw- 1 lp scanner 180, 0 2006-06-17 14:43 /dev/usblp0"
[09:57] <RamiKassab> bthornton: QuickBooks, Microsoft OneNote, etc
[09:57] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I'm sure there is a replacement for OneNote
[09:57] <bthornton> ah
[09:57] <RamiKassab> bthornton: but not for QuickBooks
[09:58] <Khaotik> Does anyone here know how Ubuntu reacts on the new Centrino Duos?
[09:58] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I install GnuCash and a few others but they're just not the same
[09:58] <Khaotik> I have a custom Acer Aspire and id love to slap some ubuntu in there
[09:58] <xprisoner> martii: See if booting to your old kernel fixes your sound problem. It fixed mine.
[09:58] <RamiKassab> I think I may just have to install QuickBooks on my development laptop that's always running at home
[09:58] <chris_> anyone here on a laptop?
[09:58] <Geev8> Garryfre: ok let me do it i will let u know the result
[09:58] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I could just remote into the laptop and use it then if I needed it within Linux
[09:59] <spikeb> RamiKassab: are you a decent writer and explainer?
[09:59] <Khaotik> 3 mins left on Dapper update
[09:59] <Khaotik> woot
[09:59] <bthornton> RamiKassab: Yeah, short of creating a new Windows installation within a Virtual Machine (VMWare) and reinstalling Quickbooks there, I'd just say have another machine running
[09:59] <chris_> ramikassab ever have a problem with your laptop when you close the lid?
[09:59] <bthornton> or remote
[09:59] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I guess, why?
[09:59] <cute_bettong> ok i have a weard question
[09:59] <RamiKassab> chris_: no my laptop works fine when I close the lid, I'm running dapper, are you having issues?
[09:59] <spikeb> RamiKassab: do you think you could write something to, say, the gnucash team and the kmymoney team about what their apps are missing?
[10:00] <chris_> yes i am having issues RamiKassab :|
[10:00] <RamiKassab> chris_: what happens?
[10:00] <Khaotik> !korn
[10:00] <ubotu> Khaotik: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:00] <Khaotik> XD
[10:00] <stc> hi
[10:00] <Khaotik> !godhatesyouall
[10:00] <ubotu> Khaotik: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:00] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I have considered that, I just installed GNUCash yesterday but I can't wait for those changes to be implemented... business calls and accounting is a daily thing for me
[10:01] <cute_bettong> why was it yesterday i had 2 hdd0 icons one filesystem and another labeld root or something like that.....one showed in propertys the capacity of the drive was shown
[10:01] <chris_> Ok i close my laptop lid and i have to do fn crt/lcd then alt then some f5 or 6 or 7 or 8 then gives me commandline then f2 or something
[10:01] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I run 4 businesses and use QuickBooks for them all
[10:01] <cute_bettong> now today after the update it dissapeard leaving only the one that is called file system
[10:01] <Geev8> Garryfre: it is chacked even before so i didnt change any thing
[10:01] <cute_bettong> and it dosen't show the size anymore :(
[10:01] <chris_> you can use crossover office to install quickbooks
[10:01] <spikeb> RamiKassab: yes, i understand that you can not wait, but perhaps writing an email or something would do some good - it lets the developers know what they need to do
[10:02] <RamiKassab> chris_: you want your laptop to go into standby I'm assuming right?
[10:02] <remoteBoy> whats a couple of good bittorrent clients for ubuntu?
[10:02] <witless> Toma-: maybe the saned group?
[10:02] <chris_> no i just dont want it to mess up all the time
[10:02] <chris_> just when i close my laptop lid
[10:02] <chris_> :|
[10:02] <Toma-> witless, no go :(
[10:02] <garryfre> Geev8 Hmm, strange.I've not done much with floppies. You might have to mount it  or format it again.
[10:03] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I will write something for them but I need to play around with the apps a little more, but that doesn't solve my issue right now so when I figure out a way to do what I want, I will spend the time writing an email to them
[10:03] <Toma-> witless, ill give it a restart and see what permissions udev will give it. brb
[10:03] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I know it helps the community and that's a good suggestion
[10:03] <spikeb> RamiKassab: my advice is to use the machine remotely :)
[10:03] <garryfre> say Geev8 does it show up as an icon on desktop?
[10:03] <chris_> what is ubuntu standby :P
[10:03] <RamiKassab> spikeb: that's what I may do
[10:03] <chris_> is it nice ? anyone have problems with it?
[10:03] <RamiKassab> chris_: crossover office let's you install QuickBooks with Ubuntu?
[10:03] <remoteBoy> are there any good bittorrent clients for ubuntu that support rss?
[10:03] <chris_> yah i have it ;_
[10:03] <RamiKassab> chris_: where can I find this?
[10:03] <chris_> ;)
[10:04] <chris_> umm the pirate at the bay
[10:04] <Geev8> Garryfre: yes it shows
[10:04] <RamiKassab> chris_: what laptop do you have
[10:04] <chris_> dell precision m50
[10:04] <RamiKassab> chris_: ?
[10:04] <spikeb> RamiKassab: you have a couple more options as well - you can use vmware, and make a new windows install in it, or you can buy crossover office, and use it to install quickbooks (assumming it supports quickbooks)
[10:04] <RamiKassab> chris_: where can I get it?
[10:04] <chris_> RamiKassab ill send it
[10:04] <chris_> :)
[10:04] <RamiKassab> chris_: that'd be great
[10:04] <garryfre> Geev8 and you drag and drop onto it and it says you don't have permissions?
[10:04] <RamiKassab> what exactly does crossover office do?
[10:04] <Madpilot> chris_, software piracy is always offtopic here...
[10:05] <spikeb> RamiKassab: it runs windows binaries
[10:05] <chris_> it emulates windows software you'll see
[10:05] <RamiKassab> spikeb: hmm, kind of like WINE tries to do?
[10:05] <spikeb> RamiKassab: exactly. crossover office is a commercial fork/variant of wine
[10:05] <chris_> get like microsft office in linux
[10:05] <polpak> RamiKassab: it uses wine. It's like a customized version of wine tailered to a specific set of windows apps
[10:05] <RamiKassab> spikeb: so it must support much more software eh
[10:05] <Geev8> Garryfre: yes that is the way i do
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> what is the default port that the built-in bittorrent client uses?
[10:05] <jago25_98> Anyone know why fglrx isn't modprob'ing on startup? It's in /etc/modules
[10:06] <spikeb> RamiKassab: im not sure about MORE, but it specifically targets certain applications (like MS Office, for example) and ensures they work
[10:06] <chris_> RamiKassab get it?
[10:06] <RamiKassab> chris_: no, where you trying to send it?
[10:06] <RamiKassab> chris_: do you have AIM?
[10:06] <RamiKassab> chris_: I sent you a PM
[10:06] <chris_> i do have aim
[10:06] <chris_> :)
[10:06] <garryfre> geevb sec ...
[10:06] <chris_> aim sn kournikovaohyah
[10:06] <chris_> :)
[10:06] <RamiKassab> chris_: TopRamen3
[10:06] <spikeb> haha
[10:07] <spikeb> nice SN chris
[10:07] <RamiKassab> yeah lol
[10:07] <piphoe`> haha Gates is leaving MS in 2 years !!!  LONG  LIVE  LINUX !
[10:07] <chris_> ;) its gaim
[10:07] <chris_> not aim
[10:07] <chris_> :P
[10:07] <jago25_98> RamiKassab: what is MORE?
[10:07] <piphoe`> MS loses Linux wins
[10:08] <piphoe`> the wicked witchnerd is melting !
[10:08] <RamiKassab> jago25_98: what do you mean?
[10:08] <jago25_98> RamiKassab: because spikeb said `RamiKassab: im not sure about MORE, but it specifically targets certain applications (like MS Office, for example) and ensures they work`
[10:09] <spikeb> the real differences are that crossover and cedega make massive changes to ensure certain things work, while wine does things in a more general fashion.
[10:09] <garryfre> Geev8 Try making your line for /dev/fd0 look like this .... I t might work ... /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,uid=1000, umask=000,noauto  0       0
[10:09] <RamiKassab> jago25_98: oh I was asking since Crossover Office is commercial, does it support more Windows apps than WINE and that was his reply
[10:09] <protocol2> woo IU got 3d acceleration
[10:10] <protocol2> woo hoo*
[10:10] <jago25_98> ah so `MORE` = Crossover and cedega?
[10:10] <jago25_98> Anyone got ati? Anyone know why fglrx isn't modprob'ing on startup? It's in /etc/modules
[10:11] <RamiKassab> jago25_98: what's cedega?
[10:11] <spikeb> RamiKassab: cedega is a gaming focused commercial fork of wine
[10:11] <garryfre> Geev8 It is also possible that the file you are trying to copy thinks it is not owned by you and its priveleges don't allow non-owners to read it. Might try the command line cp command to copy the file to the mount point for your floppy as shown in /etc/fstab
[10:11] <RamiKassab> spikeb: oic
[10:12] <scacco[] > hi
[10:12] <remoteBoy> are there any good bittorrent clients for ubuntu that support rss?
[10:12] <someothernick> azureus
[10:13] <someothernick> i think it supports rss
[10:13] <someothernick> there a plugin
[10:14] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I appreciate the help brother
[10:14] <spikeb> RamiKassab: no problem :)
[10:15] <visham> hi folks!!
[10:15] <someothernick> hi
[10:15] <someothernick> hows the weather
[10:15] <visham> how do i make ubuntu to run faster on a 128 mb RAM
[10:16] <visham> how do i make ubuntu to run faster on a 128 mb RAM
[10:16] <Sashi> yp
[10:16] <Sashi> yo*
[10:16] <Sashi> should i use SunJava
[10:16] <Sashi> or Blackhawk
[10:17] <someothernick> more swap space? :/
[10:17] <Sashi> err blackdown*
[10:17] <visham> someothernick: my swap space is 300MB
[10:17] <spikeb> Sashi: probably sun, if you're on a 32bit pc
[10:17] <stc> someothernick, mkswap /dev/yourfreePartition
[10:17] <Sashi> kk
[10:18] <Madpilot> visham, get more RAM if you can - or run Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu
[10:18] <visham> Madpilot: ya i am running XFCE
[10:18] <visham> Madpilot: but i couldn't get the speed of RH9 which i was earlier using
[10:19] <mcpowley> hey guys, I think i'm having a problem with my nvidia drivers, I have a nvidia 7800GTX go, and in my device list it isn't listed by it's name but as Unknown (0x0099)
[10:19] <garryfre> !nvidia
[10:19] <someothernick> visham, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18751
[10:19] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:19] <Dial_tone> when I configure automatic login for gnome it still asks for pw; how do I pre-enter that? I live alone anyway.
[10:19] <mcpowley> and i have random graphical problems...and xgl wont work
[10:19] <visham> Madpilot:does shutting down unsused services increases the speed
[10:20] <IsDis4Me> I have a question, if I am using amule or some other p2p software, and my music is in my home folder, which is named after my username, could someone downloading from me get my username? Or is that hidden from them?
[10:20] <Madpilot> visham, it might, a little bit - but if  you check system monitor or top, most stuff that's idling is using very few resources anyway
[10:21] <Hit3k> IsDis4Me, i believe that is hidden
[10:21] <Sashi> erm
[10:21] <dsas> IsDis4Me: If the file sharing application shows the full folder name of the files, then possibly. nicotine for one will.
[10:21] <Sashi> whats the pacakge name for Java
[10:21] <Sashi> cant find it
[10:21] <dsas> !tell sashi about java
[10:22] <Madpilot> ...since when does Add/Remove Apps start without asking me for my password? I haven't used sudo in hours...
[10:22] <IsDis4Me> dsas what about amule?
[10:22] <McNutella> I guess it shoudl
[10:22] <IsDis4Me> and how would I check?
[10:22] <Sashi> wll
[10:22] <nanomad> is anyone having problems with compiz lately? on my X700 performance is horrible...
[10:22] <Sashi> well
[10:22] <visham> Madpilot:then wats the solution
[10:22] <teclis> Hello, does anyone know much about the ekiga-config? It's a little bit annoying that ekiga switches back to the soundcard, if the USB-headset is not connected.
[10:22] <Sashi> i treid that name
[10:22] <Sashi> doesnt wor
[10:22] <McNutella> Madpilot, security is fine isnt it :)
[10:22] <Madpilot> visham, "Buy more RAM" - aside from that, I'm afraid I don't know
[10:22] <maruchan> i wanted to do a freshinstall of dapper, however the new install thing makes you use live cd, and my resolution goes to 640x480 is there a way to install old school, or increase my resolution
[10:22] <dsas> IsDis4Me: I've never used it. When you download from other people can you see their folder names? If you can see theirs they can see yours
[10:23] <Madpilot> McNutella, yeah - very odd.
[10:23] <McNutella> Madpilot, I shouldnt worry though, perhaps there is a time out, and so there should be :)
[10:23] <Madpilot> maruchan, System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[10:23] <dsas> maruchan: If you download the "alternative" cd if uses the old installer.
[10:23] <someothernick> marcels,  alternate install cd
[10:23] <IsDis4Me> dsas where would I look to see their folder names?
[10:23] <someothernick> opps
[10:23] <Sashi> !javadebs
[10:23] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[10:23] <someothernick> damn tab
[10:24] <garryfre> Useing the alternate cd will correct that. It asks you for the resolution you want t o use.
[10:24] <dsas> IsDis4Me: Sorry, I haven't a clue, I've never used it. I'm guessing you can search for files and maybe it shows up there
[10:24] <maruchan> hmm i dont know i want to install again, and madpillot the only resolution i can choose is 680
[10:24] <maruchan> i mean i dont know i want to download again
[10:24] <Geoffrey2> Sashi, i believe you need universe enabled to download Sun's Java package
[10:24] <garryfre> !fixres
[10:24] <Sashi> i got all repos enabled
[10:24] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:24] <Madpilot> McNutella, actually, it asks for your pw after you hit the Install button - clever - that's new to Dapper
[10:24] <dsas> Geoffrey2, Sashi: You need multiverse
[10:24] <IsDis4Me> dsas it just has a file ID which i s huge long string of alphanumerics
[10:24] <Geoffrey2> nope, mulitverse...my bad
[10:24] <Sashi> i got all repos enabled though
[10:25] <someothernick> maruchan, same happened to me after install i install fglrx driver fixed it
[10:25] <app> What is the best IRC client in Ubuntu officially supported
[10:25] <dsas> IsDis4Me: Well I can't say without using the application for definite. But if you can't see other peoples folders anywhere in the application, I guess they probably can't see yours.
[10:25] <maruchan> ahh okay
[10:25] <Madpilot> app, XChat
[10:25] <maruchan> all give that try thx
[10:25] <nanomad> app, xchat
[10:25] <medullaoblengata> hey, i just finished the install for ubuntu... and i cant get into Synaptic...
[10:25] <medullaoblengata> is there a default password?
[10:25] <dsas> app: xchat-gnome
[10:25] <nanomad> medullaoblengata, your user password
[10:25] <Madpilot> medullaoblengata, use the pw you gave during installation
[10:26] <medullaoblengata> i have tried...
[10:26] <medullaoblengata> and i can log on with that password...
[10:26] <medullaoblengata> but i cant add/remove progs.
[10:26] <garryfre> That's too wierd medullaoblengata.
[10:26] <Toma-> Ive got some scanner permission problems. Scanner works totally fine as root, but neither xsane or scanimage -L shows the scanner. Ive set 'chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/001/002' which is my scanners usb bus and still no love. Any tips?
[10:26] <Madpilot> medullaoblengata, odd. Open a terminal (Apps->accessories->terminal) and type 'groups' - is "admin" in the line you get?
[10:27] <garryfre> under users and groups make sure you have priveleges to use the scanner.
[10:27] <medullaoblengata> yes madpilot...
[10:27] <Sashi> umm
[10:27] <Sashi> anyone?
[10:27] <Toma-> garryfre, im in the scanner group
[10:27] <Sashi> i got all repos enabled..
[10:28] <Madpilot> medullaoblengata, then your pw should work for Synaptic & Add/Remove Apps...
[10:28] <garryfre> Toma- There is also a user priveleges tab under properties for each user, besides the groups thing.
[10:28] <Madpilot> Sashi, if you're running Dapper & you have Multiverse enabled, you should see the Sun Java package...
[10:28] <Sashi> yea
[10:28] <Sashi> but i cant install it
[10:28] <medullaoblengata> =(
[10:29] <Toma-> garryfre, theyre all selected
[10:29] <Geoffrey2> Sashi, what happens when you try to install it?
[10:29] <Sashi> says sun-java5-bin
[10:29] <garryfre> Toma Hmmm, stumped me.
[10:29] <Sashi> package not found
[10:29] <jago25_98> A quick poll. How do you handle embedded media in webpages?
[10:29] <garryfre> !scanner
[10:29] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[10:30] <Toma-> garryfre, doh <:) thx anyway
[10:30] <Geoffrey2> Sashi, that means multiverse isn't enabled
[10:30] <Sashi> but it is! lol
[10:30] <garryfre> Toma- Well hopefully that link from ubotu will have some help for ye. Welcome.
[10:30] <Madpilot> Sashi, have you hit the Reload button in Synaptic, just to make sure your sources are up to date?
[10:30] <medullaoblengata> does anyone have any suggestions for what i should do?
[10:31] <medullaoblengata> "reformat"?
[10:31] <Sashi> http://pastebin.com/714472
[10:31] <Toma-> garryfre, been there 3 hrs ago :) thx
[10:31] <Sashi> thats my sources.list
[10:31] <Madpilot> medullaoblengata, check how you're spelling your password?
[10:31] <garryfre> say Toma- Ouch..
[10:31] <Toma-> *nod*
[10:31] <Madpilot> Sashi, you don't have Multiverse enabled
[10:32] <Toma-> i think udev should be shot out of a cannon into a brickwall.
[10:32] <Sashi> #
[10:32] <Sashi> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:32] <Sashi> is that it
[10:32] <Madpilot> Sashi, in line 17 & 18 of that pastebin, add 'multiverse' after 'universe'
[10:32] <Madpilot> Sashi, that's only the backports
[10:32] <Madpilot> which you don't really need
[10:33] <Toma-> lol 1300dpi scanner!!! 400mb image!!! WOOT
[10:33] <Madpilot> Sashi, check your sources.list against this stock one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[10:34] <medullaoblengata> ya, my password is definitely correct... iv logged in with it 3 times now
[10:34] <garryfre> Hmmm, I was thinking, maybe just force the writers of buggy components to have to use them.
[10:35] <Sashi> o and
[10:35] <Geoffrey2> garryfre, would it really help?  I mean, Bill Gates has used Windows for years and it hasn't helped matters :)
[10:35] <Sashi> how do i check apt-get pid
[10:35] <Sashi> i wanna kill it, cuz it says its in use yet it isnt
[10:35] <Ayabara> I have problems with networking on my ubuntu install being _slow_ . when I start up kget it dl's really fast for a couple of minutes, but then it decreases drastically. firefox is also slow
[10:35] <garryfre> Geoffrey2 Hehe. LoL, yeah.
[10:36] <Ayabara> apt-get is also running slow until it gives up
[10:36] <garryfre> Just goes to show that advertizing is more powerful than the bug.
[10:36] <Toma-> 5096x7000 pixel image.... hardcore RAM usage :(
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> what other bittorrent clients (other than azureus) do people like?
[10:37] <McNutella> !info xchat
[10:37] <LoneShadow> azureus :D
[10:37] <Toma-> btdownlaodcurses
[10:37] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 254 kB, Installed size: 720 kB
[10:37] <spikeb> i don't actually like ANY bittorrent client
[10:37] <spikeb> there are no good ones.
[10:37] <Geoffrey2> garryfre, I feel a Folgers commercial coming on...."We've secretly replaced the Windows operating system Bill Gates normally uses with Ubuntu Linux, let's see if he notices the difference" ;)
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> well which one do you hate the least?
[10:37] <spikeb> gnome-bittorrent
[10:37] <McNutella> spikeb, the problem i have is them not bein able to find what its lookin for
[10:37] <Ayabara> fyrestrtr: I like ktorrent
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> whatever it is that loads up with gnome -- I can't get it to show me any information on the trackers.
[10:37] <zOap> what is the difference between klogd and sysklogd?
[10:38] <spikeb> fyrestrtr: heh, it wont show you much of anything at all
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> ^ that being my chief complaint.
[10:38] <spikeb> which is probably why i dislike it the least - not much to screw up if you dont DO anything
[10:39] <garryfre> say Geoffrey2 I used to have a punching bag with a picture of bill gates on it in my office.
[10:39] <LoneShadow> where can I check why Xgl failed to load ? dont see any errors in /var/log/syslog
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> need something like utorrent for linux.
[10:39] <spikeb> fyrestrtr: there is an app called freeloader you can try
[10:39] <medullaoblengata> Utorrent is my favorite
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> LoneShadow: Xorg.0.log
[10:39] <Toma-> Ive got some scanner permission problems. Scanner works totally fine as root, but neither xsane or scanimage -L shows the scanner. Ive set 'chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/001/002' which is my scanners usb bus and still no love. Any tips?
[10:40] <xice> is digg.com working for anyone?
[10:40] <RamiKassab> hey what torrent client do you guys recommend? I'm not a big fan of Azureus really
[10:40] <LoneShadow> it dosnt show any Xgl/Compiz messages
[10:40] <spikeb> xice: works fine here
[10:40] <RamiKassab> I like BitLord for windows because it lets you control upload speeds
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> works fine here xice.
[10:40] <medullaoblengata> same here
[10:40] <RamiKassab> I don't like to have my upload speed too high because I have roommates
[10:40] <spikeb> you can use gnome's bt client to limit uploads
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> (that being the ONLY thing you can do in it)
[10:41] <garryfre> What happens if you try starting the apps with sudo xsane from a command line, does the scanner show?
[10:41] <LoneShadow> fyrestrtr: What can I check to see why Xgl is not loading ?
[10:42] <Madpilot> RamiKassab, gnome-torrent lets you throttle upload speeds & number of connections
[10:42] <RamiKassab> Madpilot: that should be built into Ubuntu already isn't it?
[10:42] <Toma-> garryfre, yeh
[10:42] <Madpilot> RamiKassab, yes
[10:42] <RamiKassab> Madpilot: ok I'll check it out, thanks!
[10:42] <Toma-> garryfre, which is the most puzzling part :(
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> LoneShadow: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:43] <SqR> Hey
[10:43] <LoneShadow> thanks
[10:43] <SqR> Does anyone know of any good GUI SCP clients? (( sorta like Gftp, where I can view my local files at one site, and the PC I've SSH'ed/SCP'ed to on the other
[10:43] <garryfre> Toma- Hmmm, maybe the bug is with the gui. Sounds like you will need to use a script to use those apps from the command line, via sudo.
[10:44] <garryfre> Toma- At least it works that way I hope.
[10:44] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I'm trying to configure my kernel with gconfig, but: "Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0.". what do i need?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> SqR: nautilus can do that.
[10:45] <SqR> fyrestrtr, It can?
[10:45] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: probably those files.  try libgtk+-2.0-dev
[10:45] <lukketto> SqR: yes it can
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> sure, Places -> Connect to server
[10:46] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, why i can't find it with apt-cache?
[10:46] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: search for libgtk dev
[10:46] <ppn> how do i record video in ubuntu?
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> or just apt-cache search libgtk -- and you get libgtk2.0-dev - Development files for the GTK+ library
[10:47] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, ii  libgtk1.2-dev                                        1.2.10-17build1                      Development files for the GIMP Toolkit
[10:47] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, ii  libgtk2.0-dev                                        2.8.6-0ubuntu2.1                     Development files for the GTK+ library
[10:47] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: that second one, yes
[10:47] <ossie> hello,
[10:47] <ppn> how do i record video in ubuntu?
[10:47] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: seeing as it was unable to find the GTK libraries before
[10:48] <Hobbsee> hey ossie
[10:48] <Toma-> ppn, video from what?
[10:48] <margita> hallo
[10:48] <Hobbsee> ppn: please dont repeat
[10:48] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, how?
[10:48] <ppn> sorry, i meant video from the screen.
[10:48] <ossie> hi Hobbsee ive gone and made a big mistake, I ran a chmod 777 on a folder that had a soft link to my / filesystem
[10:49] <Hobbsee> ossie: ouch
[10:49] <ompaul> ossie, that is a pretty bad mistake
[10:49] <ossie> now i cant get ssh into the box opr anything
[10:49] <Alex_BO> ossie, that's a huge problems...
[10:49] <Toma-> ppn, xscreencap i think....
[10:49] <Toma-> or xvidcap
[10:49] <Toma-> cant remember
[10:49] <ossie> its not the 1st time ive done it either im a cluts like that
[10:49] <ompaul> ossie, you need something like a live cd and los of time
[10:49] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, how?
[10:49] <ompaul> ossie, in that case get the hense to endless formatting
[10:49] <ossie> is there nuthing to restire defualt perms
[10:50] <enyc> ossie: ?did you 'chmod 777 [target]  -R' ?
[10:50] <ossie> yes
[10:50] <ossie> :(
[10:50] <enyc> oh
[10:50] <stc> hi
[10:50] <SqR> fyrestrtr, Cheers :D
[10:50] <enyc> well you shee there aro so many things all over the place....
[10:50] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[10:50] <enyc> this is the problems....
[10:50] <stc> i have this bug on my dapper: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3050
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> SqR: np
[10:51] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, libgtk2.0-dev is already the newest version.
[10:51] <ompaul> ossie, allow me to repeat, find the install cd and start again, and Stay away from commands that you break your system with or at least test them on  a few test files and directories
[10:51] <ossie> so guys, the general view is that i am SCREWED ???? :)
[10:51] <ossie> cheers ompaul
[10:52] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: grabbed libglib2.0-dev and libglade0-dev too?
[10:52] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, yes
[10:52] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: i dont know then, it should work
[10:52] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, good =D
[10:53] <myworld122> i was trying to install vmware player and it seems that i have to install linux-headers-kernel version....do I need to add new repo to get this because terminal says that Couldn't find package linux-headers-kernel version
[10:53] <ppn> Tomma: can't find xvidcap or xscreencap in synaptic :(
[10:53] <McNutella> anyone here know how to switch thunderbird to offline mode please?
[10:53] <myworld122> anyone with any help?
[10:54] <crimsun_> myworld122: you probably mean linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:54] <JRW_> got a question. I have a desktop using FC5, but am setting up a server on an older pentium3. Would Ubuntu be a good choice (its mainly for mail, host a page or two, irc and ftp). Also, does Ubuntu use a package manager for installs/downloads, and a gui (I would be lost with console only)
[10:54] <myworld122> crimsun_: so if im using ubuntu..what do i need to change?
[10:55] <crimsun_> myworld122: (why don't you use the version in multiverse?)
[10:55] <ppn> Is there any software which can be installed on ubuntu to capture video from the screen?
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> JRW_: you can use ubuntu (or really, any distro) for that. With ubuntu, I would recommend you install the 'server' build first, then only install what you need. Its a lot easier than installing the entire desktop, and then deleting stuff.
[10:56] <dli> ppn, you want to make a video from screenshot?
[10:56] <myworld122> crimsun_: so i just search for linux-headers-$(uname -r) in synaptic?
[10:56] <crimsun_> myworld122: sure.
[10:56] <sanal> hi
[10:56] <myworld122> crimsun_: thanks!
[10:56] <crimsun_> myworld122: but are you trying to install vmware player from multiverse?
[10:56] <ppn> actually i want to cut and paste video clips or video editing
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> JRW_: might also want to see libgtk2.0-dev - Development files for the GTK+ library
[10:57] <JRW_> ok. thanks guys
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> JRW_: gah, wrong paste. See http://www.ubuntu.com/server :)
[10:57] <myworld122> crimsun_: nope...i was trying to follow this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160760&highlight=linux-headers-kernel+version
[10:57] <JRW_> ok. cheers :)
[10:57] <dli> ppn, try transcode , mencoder (mplayer) , avidumex
[10:58] <dli> ppn, sorry, avidemux
[10:58] <crimsun_> myworld122: vmware player is in multiverse
[10:58] <JRW_> so - is there a package manager for downloading and installing driver updates/software etc?
[10:59] <myworld122> crimsun_: ok! thanks
[10:59] <Toma-> Ive got some scanner permission problems. Scanner works totally fine as root, but neither xsane or scanimage -L shows the scanner. Ive set 'chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/001/002' which is my scanners usb bus and still no love. Any tips?
[10:59] <Toma-> JRW_, what drivers?
[10:59] <Consty> I dont believe this is ubuntu related, but for some reason when I hold the power button on my laptop it reboots instead of turns off.. When I shutdown with ubuntu it reboots.  I upgraded my ram on this laptop and I'm thinking it has something to do with that
[11:00] <JRW_> none in particular... but for example, on FC5 I use livna to get nvidia drivers
[11:00] <Consty> However I've tried removing the memory and such and it still happens
[11:00] <Toma-> Consty, wacky bios settings?
[11:00] <JRW_> consty - it will be an option in the bios
[11:00] <Healot> JRW_: livna's a good helper
[11:00] <Consty> Nah I've looked, there's no power management stuff in the bios
[11:00] <Healot> but their solutions sometime, don't work out of the box
[11:01] <ppn> dli: I will explain my problem more clearly. I have a video clip of length 1 hr and i want cut a 5min portion of it and save it in a seperate file. Can i do that?
[11:01] <JRW_> thats true (I had dramas with ntfs support... because FC doesnt support it out of hte box)
[11:01] <dli> ppn, try transcode , mencoder (mplayer) , avidemux
[11:01] <graveson> ppn: what kind of format
[11:02] <ppn> graveson: mpg
[11:02] <JRW_> Consty - there should be something about power in there, even if it talks about power saving (its usually at the bottom of that). what bios do you use?
[11:03] <graveson> ppn: mencoder is your best bet .avidemux is for avi files. transcode seems to be confusing unless you can fnd your way around the documentation or endless options
[11:03] <myworld122> crimsun_: i've finished installing vmware-player. but now when i try to run Windows version of QEMU, i got this error wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\qemu-img.exe": Module not found
[11:03] <crimsun_> myworld122: I don't use, either.
[11:04] <Toma-> ppn, cinelerra is a video editing suite, pretty hardcore, but itll chop your video to how you want
[11:04] <myworld122> anybody can help with this?
[11:04] <Toma-> !info cinelerra
[11:04] <Toma-> ahhh what is it...
[11:05] <Juhaz> JRW_, the multiverse repo tends to have stuff that would be in livna on fc. and ubuntu is bit less strict about Free software so things like ati and nvidia drivers that can be legally distributed but are proprietary are included with the distro
[11:05] <JRW_> ah. ok thankyou heaps for that Juhaz. will give it a go
[11:05] <GabyRox> so wat's up?
[11:05] <Toma-> ppn, http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[11:06] <dli> Toma-, is cinelerra in ubuntu?
[11:06] <Toma-> dli, sadly, no. im off to motu to report it tho!
[11:06] <GabyRox> gut548:'gibdj578
[11:07] <graveson> what can i use to create a secure FTP server on my desktop
[11:08] <Healot> vsftpd?
[11:08] <Healot> !info vsftpd
[11:08] <ubotu> vsftpd: (The Very Secure FTP Daemon), section net, is extra. Version: 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 107 kB, Installed size: 404 kB
[11:09] <Unintentional> hey, I want to execute a command that would generate a log file and e-mail that log file to me.  postfix is the right program to do that kind of stuff, right?
[11:09] <Unintentional> the e-mail part, I mean.
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> Unintentional: no, you'd need something like sendmail for that.
[11:10] <Unintentional> fyrestrtr: what is it that postfix does then?
[11:10] <Healot> !info postfix
[11:10] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is optional. Version: 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 901 kB, Installed size: 2172 kB
[11:10] <Juhaz> sounds like you're trying to reinvent logwatch
[11:10] <Toma-> Ive got some scanner permission problems. Scanner works totally fine as root, but neither xsane or scanimage -L shows the scanner. Ive set 'chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/001/002' which is my scanners usb bus and still no love. Any tips?
[11:10] <Juhaz> !info logwatch
[11:10] <ubotu> logwatch: (log analyser with nice output written in Perl), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 7.1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 212 kB, Installed size: 1716 kB
[11:11] <Unintentional> !info sendmail
[11:11] <ubotu> sendmail: (powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent), section universe/mail, is extra. Version: 8.13.5-3ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 188 kB, Installed size: 244 kB
[11:11] <Healot> both are MTAs
[11:11] <Unintentional> so, matter of preference then?
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> Unintentional: yeap, and how familiar you are with configuring the MTA of choice.
[11:12] <Unintentional> completely unfamiliar with both.
[11:12] <Healot> for deamon mail... sendmail is my preference
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> Unintentional: go with logwatch then.
[11:13] <Scorpmoon> whats the keyboard shortcut to switch between Workspaces?
[11:14] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, Ctrl+Alt+Left Arrow|Right Arrow
[11:14] <Unintentional> Scorpmoon: Go to System -> Preference -
[11:14] <Unintentional> > Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:14] <Pitersburgs> hi guys, which package contains default volumes for each ALSA module aka sound card?
[11:15] <Pitersburgs> alsa-common itself?
[11:15] <Sonofaq> msg nickserv register tamiya23$
[11:15] <assasukasse> hi did anyone try kernel 686 on pentium centrino M? it is faster or slower than 386
[11:16] <Sonofaq> nickserv
[11:16] <Sonofaq> msg nikserv
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> Sonofaq: might want to change your password.
[11:16] <Healot> assasukasse: it is optimized, not sure about speed though, but you should see more performance
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> Sonofaq: you need a /
[11:16] <Sonofaq> yeah i just muck up
[11:16] <Sonofaq> ow yeah
[11:17] <Scorpmoon> what is the difference between Mark for Removal and Mark for complete removal?
[11:17] <Scorpmoon> complete = with purge?
[11:17] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, complete dumps all the config files & such too
[11:17] <spikeb> Scorpmoon: yes
[11:18] <Healot> remove and --purge
[11:18] <Scorpmoon> which one is recommended
[11:18] <Toma-> Anyone care to help with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15853
[11:18] <Toma-> #ubuntu-devel
[11:18] <Toma-> oops
[11:19] <Healot> set the file permission to 666 via sudo
[11:19] <spikeb> Scorpmoon: i personally use complete removal most of the time
[11:19] <neutrinomass> Toma-: Maybe you don't belong to the scanners group ?
[11:19] <Scorpmoon> ok
[11:19] <Toma-> neutrinomass, i do
[11:19] <Scorpmoon> where is the builtin firefox installed? I need to remove some search plugins
[11:19] <s0nix> hi
[11:20] <spikeb> Scorpmoon: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox or maybe just /usr/lib/firefox
[11:20] <zOap> is there a special reason to why the update manager don't move all kernel modules to the new kernel when updating? it didn't move shfsmount.. had to install it again
[11:21] <Chousuke> zOap: the old modules don't work with the new kernel
[11:21] <Chousuke> zOap: any custom modules will have to be recompiled.
[11:21] <zOap> Chousuke, I know. but I seem to recall that with the last update I didn't have to install it over.. maybe my memory is fooling me :)
[11:21] <zOap> Chousuke, ok, thanks :)
[11:22] <igorzolnikov> where i find direcory of C header files?
[11:22] <igorzolnikov> where i find direcory of C header file hat match your running kernel?
[11:22] <igorzolnikov> where i find direcory of C header file that match your running kernel?
[11:23] <spikeb> damn it
[11:23] <spikeb> type it right the first time.
[11:23] <Scorpmoon> spikeb, searchplugins is placed in /usr/share/firefox/searchplugins, why is that? what do it share with
[11:23] <spikeb> Scorpmoon: probably across every user's firefox
[11:23] <Chousuke> Scorpmoon: it's shared with all users.
[11:24] <fluxy> Hello People. I need help getting a game to work with wine, anyone having experience can please help me?
[11:25] <mrDaniel> is here anyone with good experience on acpi and intel ASL compiler?
[11:25] <Scorpmoon> how do I unpack rar files
[11:25] <|mp|> after updating from beta to final dapper the /etc/network/interfaces is missing bits and wlan0 does not appear anywhere, although ndiswrapper -l says: driver loaded, hardware present - ??
[11:25] <assasukasse> fluxy go to #winehq
[11:25] <fluxy> thanks
[11:26] <fluxy> Scorpmoon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/rar
[11:26] <bigfoot1> what is difference between "firefox %u" and just "firefox"?
[11:27] <bilss> hi
[11:27] <igorzolnikov> i install vmware... help me with... What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[11:28] <igorzolnikov> i have not /usr/src/linux/include
[11:28] <fluxy> bigfoot> Try firefox www.google.com and just firefox in a terminal
[11:28] <bilss> need some help as to why ssh keeps dropping after i had have not used labtop for a hour or so
[11:28] <forbidden> hi
[11:29] <Sonofaq> hi
[11:29] <nox-Hand> Hey
[11:29] <nox-Hand> How would I install a new font in Ubuntu? Like, can I use .ttf fonts from Dafont.com?
[11:29] <bilss> ompaul: good morning
[11:29] <forbidden> i've got a little problem in ubuntu can i say it ?
[11:29] <Sonofaq> yeah go mat
[11:29] <ompaul> Bilange, your nick changes more than the weather ;-)
[11:30] <ompaul> Bilss, your nick changes more than the weather ;-)
[11:30] <ompaul> Bilange, the tab got me
[11:30] <Sonofaq> go for it forbidden
[11:30] <fluxy> forbidden>channel rules, do not ask if u can ask a question, jus ask
[11:30] <bilss> ompaul: nice one but ye you correct weather haha
[11:30] <Scorpmoon> unrar is not in multiverse repository
[11:30] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: it is ...
[11:30] <crimsun_> !info unrar
[11:31] <ubotu> unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[11:31] <bilss> need some help as to why ssh keeps dropping after i had have not used labtop for a hour or so
[11:31] <Scorpmoon> what does it mean it is non-free, i have to pay for it?
[11:31] <ompaul> run a ping through the tunnel
[11:31] <RajaSekhar> @<nox-Hand> You can install .ttf fonts. Just Create a folder in .fonts directory in ur home diretory and copy ur .ttf files to that folder.. It justs work to view language websites on firefox
[11:31] <bilss> which tunnel?
[11:31] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell Scorpmoon about components
[11:32] <|mp|> Scorpmoon: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html
[11:32] <nox-Hand> RajaSekhar, What if I need some fonts for...say Gimp?
[11:32] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: You will not have to pay for it.
[11:32] <ompaul> bilss, the ssh one - when your not active do this "ping -i 57 some_ip_that_won't_mind"
[11:32] <RajaSekhar> Hmm I am not sure if that works for that also... Just give it a try
[11:33] <ompaul> bilss, every 57 seconds it will send one ping packet and so maybe keep the session open
[11:33] <nox-Hand> RajaSekhar, like, /home/nox/.fonts/<font>.ttf, right? Then reload something, or..
[11:33] <bilss> ompaul: i connect or try to connect from work useing a win box with putty
[11:33] <RajaSekhar> Thats it.. I did restart of firefox
[11:34] <jksd> hi, does the update program include security updates?
[11:34] <forbidden> ok , so today i've installated ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386 on my pc, at on a point it was asking me to put a password , but no username , something like " put a password for the new username..." but i didn't put any username , i've put a password and the instalation go on ... so when the instalation finished , i've tried to login but there was asking me for a username, i've tried " root, username, new, newuser" nothing worked ...
[11:34] <nox-Hand> RajaSekhar, Cheers
[11:34] <forbidden> i put the same password to the usernames taht i've tried
[11:34] <neutrinomass> forbidden: Not sure what went wrong. You can boot from grub's rescue mode though and add a user ... (man useradd)
[11:35] <forbidden> and sorry abaout my english
[11:35] <Sonofaq> forbidden root wont work on gui because its not allowed
[11:35] <bilss> some_ip_that_won''t_mind?
[11:35] <neutrinomass> bilss: Google ?
[11:35] <forbidden> ok i will try now what neutrinomass told me
[11:36] <forbidden> thanks
[11:36] <ompaul> bilss, your isp the box itself
[11:36] <skip> how hot are people's HDD's?
[11:36] <Scorpmoon> the only 2 packages Synaptic find after adding Universe and Multiverse repositories are comix and unrar-free
[11:36] <Scorpmoon> i don't find unrar
[11:36] <ompaul> bilss, providing the isp does not mind
[11:36] <Sonofaq> skip what you mean by that
[11:36] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: Did you reload ? (or sudo apt-get update)
[11:36] <bilss> ompaul: from my work  from putty at work you mean
[11:36] <Scorpmoon> yes i did reload
[11:37] <Scorpmoon> i search for "unrar"
[11:37] <skip> Sonofaq, I mean at what temperature are most people's HDD's running?
[11:37] <bilss> as in ping -i 57 myisp of my box
[11:37] <Sonofaq> ummm hang on i'll measure mine
[11:37] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: You sure youa dded the repos correctly ? The repos themselves, not their backports/updates/security/whatever ...
[11:37] <Unintentional> hey, what's the difference between '>' and '>>' in a command?
[11:37] <neutrinomass> Unintentional: AFAIK > redirects standard output, >> standard error
[11:38] <ompaul> bilss, in the ssh session in the little terminal type >> ping -i 57 <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:38] <Scorpmoon> neutrinomass,  i have all repos activated  except the two LTS Security in the bottom
[11:38] <Unintentional> neutrinomass: thanks.
[11:38] <neutrinomass> Unintentional: Don't take my word for it, likely to be wrong.
[11:38] <Frogzoo> neutrinomass: man bash
[11:38] <Sonofaq> skip: mines a seagate 160gb 8mb cache and its aabout a couple of degrease C
[11:39] <bilss> ompaul:ok i will do that now
[11:39] <skip> Sonofaq, why is it so cold?
[11:39] <neutrinomass> Frogzoo: Yes, of course :)
[11:40] <neutrinomass> Unintentional: > redirects std output to a file and >> appends standard output to a file
[11:40] <Sonofaq> i dont know my last hard drive which i had to send back was a Western digital cavalier and that ran hot, but this ones well cool
[11:40] <Sonofaq> i do have plenty of cooling though
[11:40] <jksd> is it safe to upgrade to Ubuntu 6.06 LTS through software updates?
[11:40] <Scorpmoon> i just found out what LTS means.. it means Long Term Betatester
[11:41] <skip> jksd, I tried it on my laptop and it killed my xorg as well as a few other critical settings
[11:41] <Unintentional> neutrinomass: what do I do if I want to redirect both stdout and stderr?
[11:41] <Ilokaasu> skip: i had same problems, fresh install worked
[11:41] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, you want to have the security repos enabled, btw
[11:41] <jksd> skip: OK, thanks
[11:41] <jksd> skip: I'd better give it a miss
[11:41] <bilss> ompaul: after i have done it minimise the box and just leave it there? or close it?
[11:41] <skip> jksd, that doesn't mean it won't work for you
[11:41] <neutrinomass> Unintentional:  &>
[11:42] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot, now i have all repos activated possible.. still no unrar
[11:42] <jksd> skip: not sure if I want to risk it
[11:42] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, it's in Multiverse
[11:42] <skip> jksd, better to be safe than sorry
[11:42] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[11:42] <jksd> when a new kernel is updates does it mess with the grub menu.lst file at all?
[11:42] <jksd> skip: yeah
[11:43] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Backports Non-free (multiverse) right?
[11:43] <Sonofaq> hi linuxboyfriend
[11:43] <jksd> updates/updated
[11:43] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: Not backports !
[11:43] <Scorpmoon> i don't have others in my list
[11:43] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, not backports, the main repos
[11:43] <Scorpmoon> do I need to add something?
[11:43] <linuxboyfriend> my system suddenly stop automatically reccognizing devices like flash, cdrom?
[11:43] <linuxboyfriend> Sonofaq, hi
[11:43] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell Scorpmoon about universe
[11:43] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, yes, you need to edit your sources again
[11:43] <jksd> skip: I updated the kernel and I can't get into win anymore through the same grub entry that I had before
[11:44] <Scorpmoon> now i forgot which repositories i had enabled from start :(
[11:44] <Unintentional> neutrinomass: thanks again.
[11:44] <skip> jksd, perhaps your drives have been assigned differently
[11:44] <b14ck> how can i login as root? what is the default?
[11:44] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell b14ck about root
[11:45] <mneptok> 'allo, users
[11:45] <Sonofaq> b14ck are you trying to log into root on gui
[11:46] <Zyclop> where do I get mplayer for dapper?
[11:46] <mneptok> Zyclop: Synaptic
[11:46] <Scorpmoon> if I add ONE repository with all 4 flags checked, do I need to have the other repos active with just one flag?
[11:46] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone help me about that device detection matter?
[11:46] <abo> anyone knows how to use convert?
[11:46] <Zyclop> mneptok: it's not in the repositorys
[11:46] <b14ck> Sonofaq:  i want to change the default mounting and rw option of a new partition. i don't know how to do that by command lines
[11:46] <jksd> skip: yeah I think that's it
[11:46] <AskHL> jksd, the kernel update yesterday appears to have stored a backup of menu.lst, called menu.lst~ . Perhaps you should inspect that
[11:47] <mneptok> Zyclop: do you have Multiverse enabled?
[11:47] <jksd> AskHL: nah, no luck in ~, but I just found a _backup file which should work
[11:47] <jksd> thanks skip, AskHL
[11:47] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, no, you need all three types of repos (the main one, updates & security) and main/restricted/universe/multiverse enabled for all three
[11:47] <siriusly>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY haven
[11:47] <Sonofaq> b14ck if your logged in as your normal user you use a command in terminal called sudo and just give me a minute i will get a weppage for mounting
[11:47] <mneptok> b14ck: read up on fstab
[11:47] <abo> I need to increase the compression ratio of  jpeg files, anyone knows how can this be done (either by convert or another way)
[11:48] <Zyclop> mneptok: probably, this new design is quite confusing
[11:48] <Madpilot> siriusly, time to change your freenode password :)
[11:48] <Sonofaq> lol
[11:48] <B1zz> lol
[11:48] <b14ck> Sonofaq:  i know but i don't know the com
[11:48] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot, that's a very complicated system
[11:48] <bilss> ompaul: so if i ping from a remote host whith this at the terminal ping -i 57 myiboxisp it wakes it up?
[11:48] <mneptok> b14ck: fstab
[11:48] <Scorpmoon> not to mention Synaptic jumps in scroll everytime I uncheck something
[11:48] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, not really. Just go thru the repo window and check everything :)
[11:48] <Sonofaq> b14ck just give me a min i will find the webpage i used
[11:48] <b14ck> mneptok:  i have changed that command line to match tho other partitions but it won't work. i have changed the mountpoint
[11:49] <Scorpmoon> I can't overwrite my searchplugins.. i get a security error
[11:49] <b14ck> mneptok:  it mounts read only
[11:49] <Scorpmoon> do I need to login as root?
[11:49] <mneptok> b14ck: when you make an entry for it in fstab?
[11:49] <Sonofaq> b14ck read this  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[11:50] <linuxboyfriend> ubot, tell me about hal
[11:50] <b14ck> Sonofaq: ok
[11:50] <b14ck> mneptok: one sec
[11:50] <Bacta> giddigy giddigy goo
[11:50] <linuxboyfriend> ubot, tell linuxboyfriend about hal
[11:50] <Zyclop> mneptok: yup, it wasn't activatet. thx
[11:50] <linuxboyfriend> ubot, tell linuxboyfriend about hald
[11:50] <neutrinomass> linuxboyfriend: You can /msg ubotu as well, you know ;)
[11:50] <Bacta> giddigy giddigy giddigy giddigy lets have sex
[11:50] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, which search plugins? You shouldn't ever have to 'login as root', btw
[11:50] <Madpilot> Bacta, quit that, or leave, thanks
[11:50] <b14ck> mneptok: ok this is the default line for my first partition /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:51] <linuxboyfriend> neutrinomass, i am experimenting :)
[11:51] <igorzolnikov> hi! how i can install opengl?
[11:51] <b14ck> mneptok:  i changed it for the new partition as: /dev/hda8 /media/hda8  ext2 defaults,rw,uid=b14ck 0 0
[11:51] <B1zz> hmmm schools out......
[11:51] <B1zz> i take it we gonna be getting more of those more oftern
[11:51] <b14ck> mneptok:  or exactly as the first one but with mountpoins changed for the hda8
[11:51] <bilss> its not doing anything ssh does not recognise the word ping
[11:51] <Sonofaq> igorzolnikov: what graphics card you got
[11:52] <mneptok> b14ck: is it fat32, ext2, or ext3?
[11:52] <igorzolnikov> nvidia geforce 6200
[11:52] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot, firefox searchplugins
[11:52] <b14ck> mneptok: ext2
[11:52] <guzu> hello all
[11:53] <b14ck> mneptok:  the new one is ext2 and i have changed that too
[11:53] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, I don't run FF - what's the trouble with your plugins?
[11:53] <guzu> does 504 support is nics ne 200 compatible?
[11:53] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot, how do I copy files using GUI file manager using sudo?
[11:53] <Sonofaq> igorzolnikov i think theres full linuix drivers on the nvidea webby
[11:53] <guzu> s/is/isa
[11:53] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot, I just need to delete them
[11:53] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: from a terminal,  you can do "gksudo nautilus"
[11:53] <dibblego> performing a ls in my home directory is taking an unusually long time - why?
[11:53] <Scorpmoon> i really have to do everything from terminal
[11:54] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, FF's options should be in .mozilla
[11:54] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: alt+f2 and "gksudo nautilus" then :)
[11:54] <igorzolnikov> Sonofaq how i can install full drivers?
[11:54] <Scorpmoon> when will linux become a true GUI OS
[11:54] <threat> Scorpmoon, it is
[11:54] <Scorpmoon> m'kay
[11:55] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: (or by exploiting a known bug in disk-admin) System->Administration->Disks->Browse
[11:55] <Sonofaq> hang on its all on the nvidea page heres the basic linux drivers age have a look around and there is plenty on google http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[11:55] <mneptok> b14ck: you want "/dev/hda8 /media/hda8 ext2 defaults 1 2"
[11:55] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, it's getting closer
[11:55] <threat> Scorpmoon, it all depends on your definition of GUI
[11:55] <mneptok> b14ck: and ensure the mount point has the correct permissions
[11:55] <Scorpmoon> well, I come from windows world (obviously)
[11:55] <mneptok> wtf is a "true GUI OS?"
[11:55] <Sonofaq> igorzolnikov IA32= 32bit machine Ia64 = 64 bit machine
[11:55] <bilss> ompaul: ah you or i do not understand its not "keeping the session open" its always timing out if i connect from a remote host if i have been away from labtop more than an hour I cannot connect
[11:56] <Scorpmoon> not having to write console commands occasionally
[11:56] <b14ck> mneptok: mountpoint is on root filesys so it requires sudo
[11:56] <neutrinomass> mneptok: I guess one in which you can remove gnome-terminal and still be able to do everything you want ?
[11:56] <Anarqi> what is the boot line to run on live cd to boot into console instead of x
[11:56] <mneptok> b14ck: so change the permissions with chown
[11:56] <dibblego> Scorpmoon, you have to use the console in Windows as well, unless you restrict yourself to a very small subset of what it is capable of
[11:56] <Scorpmoon> i don't recall a task i have to do from console
[11:57] <dibblego> then you don't do many tasks
[11:57] <Scorpmoon> m'kay
[11:57] <b14ck> mneptok: chown?
[11:57] <Sonofaq> lol
[11:57] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: dude, only MSCEs (Must Consult Someone Experienced) need a GUI for everything. learn to love the command line. it's the most powerful tool on the machine.
[11:57] <Scorpmoon> useability is the word i believe
[11:57] <bilss> ompaul; its not about keeping the remote open its about connecting in the first place i cannot if my labtop has not been active for an hour
[11:57] <Anarqi> speaking of command line,....what is the boot line to run on live cd to boot into console instead of x
[11:57] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: except most people spell it "usability"
[11:58] <Scorpmoon> see, you know about it already
[11:58] <mneptok> b14ck: what is your UNIX username?
[11:58] <dibblego> my 5 year old finds Ubuntu more usable than Windows
[11:58] <Scorpmoon> after you set it up for him/her, sure
[11:58] <dibblego> clearly demonstrating that "usability" is a personal thing
[11:58] <Scorpmoon> i also set Ubuntu up for my wife
[11:58] <b14ck> mneptok:  same as here
[11:58] <Sonofaq> Anarqi do you want to boot or just select by ctrl alt f1
[11:58] <dibblego> erm no, he puts the DVD in and presses on
[11:58] <Anarqi> to boot
[11:58] <Sonofaq> ok
[11:59] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: just because my car doesn;t steer itself and present me with a GUI dialog box and an animated paper clip when i want to change the oil doesn;t mean it's not a usable vehicle.
[11:59] <Anarqi> x isnt configged right by default
[11:59] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: This is rather offtopic. Btw, I don't think any 5 year olds can format + install windows anyway ..
[11:59] <aeon17x> !realplayer
[11:59] <strode> how do i get rid of the automatic update icon in tray keep appearing when I dont want specified updates?
[11:59] <ubotu> hmm... realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:59] <dsas> would you mind going to #ubuntu-offtopic guys?
[11:59] <Scorpmoon> i knew i was going to get bashed saying the w word :)
[11:59] <mneptok> b14ck: sudo chown -R b14ck:b1ack /media/hda8
[11:59] <b14ck> mneptok: k
[12:00] <b14ck> mneptok: thanx
[12:00] <popS> Would someone spare some time and help a new user (me) of ubuntu with som network issues?
[12:00] <dibblego> Scorpmoon, your ignorance is shining - is the point, why not save it until you can present an informed opinion for both sides?
[12:00] <dsas> !coc
[12:00] <Scorpmoon> m'kay
[12:00] <ubotu> methinks coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:00] <Madpilot> dibblego, cool it
[12:01] <popS> Or am I in the wrong place?
[12:01] <dibblego> I'm cool - I like being told when I am out of order - I realise others don't
[12:01] <mneptok> popS: no one can answer an unasked question
[12:01] <Madpilot> popS, no, you're in the right place - best to ask a more detailed question, though.
[12:01] <popS> So I just post it?
[12:01] <neutrinomass> popS: This is the right place. Describe your issue and be patient - if people dont respond, they're not ignoring you, they don't know.
[12:02] <Anarqi> neutrino seems no one knows the answer to my question
[12:02] <popS> ok, thank you: My problem is, that network is working fine for a couple of days, then it stops working. looks like the machine stops asking for an IP from the router
[12:03] <mneptok> popS: sounds like dhclient isn;t renewing your lease
[12:03] <assasukasse> how can i tweak laptop mode in order to have the maximum battery life?
[12:03] <lukketto> pops: did you control the router settings and dhcp?
[12:03] <neutrinomass> Anarqi: Then you can try the forums, the ubuntu-users mailing list etc.
[12:03] <popS> Maybe. how do I check that?
[12:03] <mneptok> popS: sudo /sbin/dhclient
[12:04] <graveson> how do i add scripts to gnome
[12:04] <popS> Ok, thank you, Ill look into it. but should it be renewing when reboot?
[12:04] <popS> or rather shutdown and restarted
[12:04] <mneptok> popS: add that line to /etc/rc.local
[12:04] <Anarqi> what is the "boot" parameter for the ubuntu live cd to boot to console rather than it even trying to boot into gdm
[12:05] <Toma-> anyone know any decent file system cleaning programs? I have alot of OLD files and apps i need to get rid of. already run debfoster and deborphan and purged all old configs with synaptic. Any other space saving tips?
[12:05] <popS> the router is set to give the same ip to this nic
[12:06] <neutrinomass> Toma-: You might want to delete what's in /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:06] <Toma-> apt-get clean has been run several times :)
[12:06] <popS> Ok, Ill look into the dhcp-client thing. That sound right. Thanks a lot for the help. Hope to repay some day!
[12:07] <Anarqi> apt-get autoclean
[12:07] <mneptok> popS: that's OK. i get paid. :)
[12:07] <neutrinomass> mneptok: Canonical  ? :)
[12:07] <mneptok> neutrinomass: aye
[12:08] <neutrinomass> mneptok: Must be fun :D Getting paid to talk about Linux in IRC
[12:08] <mneptok> neutrinomass: indoor work. no heavy lifting.
[12:08] <mneptok> neutrinomass: and "fun" rather depends on your defintion of the word :)
[12:09] <axisme> hm, did that latest set of updates break gnome network manager for anyone else?
[12:09] <neutrinomass> mneptok: Well it's better than working as support for people with viruses :P And surely better than dozens of other jobs that come to mind
[12:10] <Scorpmoon> I install a plugin called SearchPluginHacks in firefox, so I can delete searchplugins by rightclicking them.. however this doesn't work, as the search plugins are restricted to root
[12:10] <neutrinomass> axisme: network-admin ?
[12:10] <axisme> sorry?
[12:11] <mneptok> axisme: still works here. have you tried removing and re-installing network-manager-gnome ?
[12:11] <axisme> downloaded loads of updates this morning, rebooted for new kernel and then no worky
[12:11] <axisme> but i just went into networking
[12:11] <neutrinomass> axisme: What exactly do you mean by network manager? System->Administration->Networking, System->Administration->Network Tools ?
[12:11] <axisme> the default one
[12:11] <axisme> and enabled there and thats how i got lan working
[12:11] <neutrinomass> axisme: Yeah, that's "network-admin" in gnome-talk....
[12:12] <axisme> ah ok
[12:12] <neutrinomass> axisme: Still works here though :-/
[12:12] <axisme> in apt-get i think it was network manager
[12:12] <Scorpmoon> what chmod / chown do I give to /usr/share/firefox/searchplugins to allow firefox itself to delete these?
[12:12] <neutrinomass> axisme: NetworkManager is another program ;) How exactly did it break ?
[12:12] <mneptok> axisme: network-manager is a GUI tool for 802.11x discovery
[12:13] <axisme> well, it still connects to the wireless or eth0
[12:13] <axisme> but no traffic gets sent
[12:13] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: what's your UNIX username?
[12:13] <Scorpmoon> scorpmoon
[12:13] <neutrinomass> axisme: Could it be a DNS issue? Can you resolve hostnames ?
[12:13] <Scorpmoon> the login
[12:13] <dibblego> axisme, your WEP/WPA key is probably incorrect
[12:13] <axisme> cant ping IP addys either
[12:14] <axisme> dibblego..no..it connects to the wireless fine
[12:14] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: sudo chown -R root:scorpmoon /usr/share/firefox/searchplugins
[12:14] <axisme> just doesn't do anything from there
[12:14] <dibblego> axisme, right, so your key is probably incorrect
[12:14] <axisme> erm no
[12:14] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: sudo chmod 664 /usr/share/firefox/searchplugins/*
[12:14] <axisme> that wouldn't expplain why eth0 wouldn't work  ;-)
[12:15] <Scorpmoon> thx
[12:15] <mneptok> np
[12:15] <axisme> i think i will try reinstall the gnome networking stuff
[12:15] <mneptok> axisme: what does ifconfig tell you?
[12:16] <Scorpmoon> mneptop, that * in the end, wont it only change the chmod for the files in there now? what about future files
[12:16] <mneptok> axisme: does eth0 have an IP assigned? is the netmask correct?
[12:16] <axisme> well i'm connected on eth0 now because i enabled it in Networking
[12:16] <axisme> but before the updates the network manager did that for me
[12:16] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: it should respect the permissions of the parent directory
[12:16] <Scorpmoon> ok
[12:17] <axisme> brb
[12:17] <Scorpmoon> mneptok, still can't delete them though
[12:18] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: ls -la /usr/share/firefox/searchplugins
[12:18] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: paste the rsult in a /query, please
[12:19] <axisme> well it seems activating the eth0 in networking somehow magically fixed the wireless
[12:19] <axisme> the magic of linux :-)
[12:19] <IVANGOTOY> hallo
[12:20] <Rudd-O> what's the ubuntu philosophy?
[12:21] <Chousuke> I'm sure it's explained somewhere on ubuntu.com
[12:21] <Madpilot> right on the front page of http://www.ubuntu.com/ , in fact
[12:21] <IVANGOTOY> i made some normal sys updates and i noticed that xorg files were updated too but now it does not allow me to enter it
[12:21] <boricua> where does apt or synaptic keeps its log when installing or upgrading
[12:21] <IVANGOTOY> even if i type my pass i refuses
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> even if i reconfigure xserver and change from nvidia to vese the problem remains
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> is there a know solution?
[12:22] <axisme> do you get an error?
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> automatic login seems not to be working
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> it propts about username and pass
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> i type them
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> loading and loop on username and pass - it did not tell me thay are wrong
[12:22] <Seveas> IVANGOTOY, update gdm again
[12:23] <IVANGOTOY> besides i know thay are not
[12:23] <Seveas> known problem, fixed today
[12:23] <IVANGOTOY> how ?
[12:23] <dli> IVANGOTOY, select another session before login
[12:23] <IVANGOTOY> apt-get update only?
[12:23] <Seveas> apt-get upgrade
[12:23] <IVANGOTOY> okay
[12:23] <boricua> where does apt or synaptic keeps its log when installing or upgrading???????
[12:23] <IVANGOTOY> thank you very much
[12:23] <Seveas> boricua, nowhere
[12:24] <boricua> Seveas: THATS VERY STUPID i would say without offeding ?
[12:24] <chennaituxian> boricua: check the installed packages in /var/cache/apt
[12:24] <Madpilot> IVANGOTOY, could you change your nick so it's not shouting, please?
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> seveas i managed to understand that if i launch recovery mode for example and update it would do ?
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> right?
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> what do you mean exctly by choose another session?
[12:24] <Seveas> IVANGOTOY, or simply hit <alt><f1> to switch to a console
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> excuse me , dli
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> okay :)
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> console comes again
[12:25] <IVANGOTOY> after seferal failures to launch xserver
[12:25] <IVANGOTOY> telling me it is not configured right
[12:25] <Rudd-O> what's the exact error message?
[12:25] <dli> IVANGOTOY, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:25] <IVANGOTOY> yup
[12:25] <IVANGOTOY> then?
[12:26] <Rudd-O> and how does the screen appear? any colors?  blue boxes?
[12:26] <IVANGOTOY> i did it already
[12:26] <IVANGOTOY> yup :)
[12:26] <boricua> any reason for apt not to keep a decent log of what it does??
[12:26] <IVANGOTOY> it allows me reconfiguration but it does not allow me to log in :(
[12:26] <Hobbsee> bye Seveas!
[12:27] <IVANGOTOY> another minor problem is that when loading system files it usually has the brown theme
[12:27] <IVANGOTOY> suddenly it disappers and the console output is shown
[12:27] <XiXaQ> why does ubuntu-desktop depend on bittorrent?
[12:28] <IVANGOTOY> so were some games
[12:28] <Kibou> boricua: wadaya mean?
[12:28] <bean> hi my friend has grub error 17 on boot, can anyone help?
[12:28] <bean> after a fresh install of ubuntu
[12:28] <bean> dapper
[12:28] <Guard] [an> morning
[12:28] <boricua> Kibou: a apt log of what it installs upgrades delete
[12:28] <shawn__> hello?
[12:29] <Hobbsee> bean: googled what grub error 17 is?
[12:29] <Hobbsee> hey shawn__
[12:29] <bean> Hobbsee: yeah
[12:29] <Kibou> isn't that /var/log/dpkg.log? it's not very verbose though
[12:29] <bean> Hobbsee: very cryptic
[12:29] <bean> could be something to do with his crippled Dell bios
[12:29] <bean> which only allows "auto" setting for the hard drives
[12:30] <boricua> Kibou: thxs
[12:30] <quux> Dapper on a thinkpad T23. Device Manager sees the 82557/8/9 (ethernet Pro 100) NIC; Network Settings does not see it. What to do?
[12:30] <bean> if worse comes to worse, is there any way to uninstall grub so that he can boot from windows again?
[12:30] <bean> cos right now he can't even boot windows
[12:31] <guzu> fdisk /mbr
[12:31] <slewis> Does anyone have the link to the SPARC Ubuntu installation that was mentioned on the LUGRadio podcast?
[12:31] <bean> fdisk /mbr?
[12:31] <kane77> how can I make a program open up in certain workspace? (eg I want at startup to start thunderbird in workspace 8 etc...)
[12:31] <guzu> bean, from w98 startup floppy
[12:32] <bean> guzu: even if he's running win xp?
[12:32] <guzu> or any other msdos boot disk wich has fdisk
[12:32] <guzu> bean, 99% , but with xp you can use fixmbr
[12:32] <Kibou> bean: or use the recovery console with the winxp install disk and "fixmbr"
[12:32] <quux> repairing XP boot: http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=313
[12:32] <bean> fixmbr
[12:33] <mneptok> slewis: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-sparc.iso
[12:33] <kimo> Hey, did dapper get a lot of updates (+ new kernel) in the last two days ?
[12:33] <kane77> kimo, yes i think kernel version 25...
[12:33] <slewis> mneptok: thanks, is there a
[12:33] <kimo> cool :)
[12:33] <kimo> I hope this one powers off my laptop :)
[12:34] <bean> guzu, Kibou: thanks
[12:35] <slewis> mneptok: I will have to look at the docs... I was looking at sparc.ubuntu.com that i got from google :S
[12:35] <guzu> welcome :)
[12:35] <b14ck> mneptok:  my fstab looks like /dev/hda8       /media/hda8     ext2    auto,exec,rw,user 1 2 but hda8 stil mounts read only
[12:35] <quux> ahhh. dmesg says the my e100 driver is failing to load because : e100_eeprom_load: EEPROM corrupted
[12:35] <quux> but the same nic works great under DSL
[12:36] <mneptok> b14ck: did you change the permissions of the mount point?
[12:36] <b14ck> mneptok:  no i don't know how to do that. the cohow line gave me some group error
[12:36] <b14ck> chow*
[12:36] <Kibou> chown?
[12:37] <mneptok> b14ck: sudo chown -R b14ck:b14ck /media/hda8
[12:37] <mneptok> b14ck: i typo'ed the group name earlier O:)
[12:37] <b14ck> mneptok: chown: `b14ck:b1ack': invalid group
[12:37] <b14ck> lol
[12:37] <morphix> is there a list of what 'extra' is in "dapper alternative" ISO??
[12:37] <b14ck> mneptok:  it's b14ck:b14ck not with the l
[12:38] <b14ck> mneptok: hokay dude it worked
[12:39] <mneptok> b14ck: that should do it for you.
[12:39] <b14ck> mneptok:  thanx m8. reboot
[12:39] <quux> no comments on my e100 issue?
[12:50] <app> Is this Gaim IRC client any good? Looks like there is almost no settings at all you could tweak...
[12:50] <Kibou> app: try xchat or irssi
[12:50] <guzu> is good . is not perfect
[12:51] <app> How can I list all installed packages in order of they disk consumption?
[12:54] <popS> Hello again. Still having difficulties with network. Trying sudo /sbin/dhclient doesnt give the nic a ip
[12:55] <yml> hello
[12:55] <morphix> popS: have u checked ur /etc/network/interfaces config
[12:55] <neutrinomass> popS: Um... not a davicom-based (try 'lspci' )  card by any chance ?
[12:55] <yml> is it me or does ubuntu.com is down?
[12:56] <neutrinomass> yml: It's you
[12:56] <morphix> yml: no, i was on no more than a few seconds ago
[12:56] <axisme> its you ;-)
[12:57] <popS> ive looked in interfaces. What should I notices there? Trying lspci now
[12:58] <elijah> how do i check md5sum in ubuntu?
[12:58] <yml> neutrinomass> It is very strange because I cannot access it
[12:58] <elijah> how do i check md5sum of an iso in ubuntu?
[12:59] <yml> I cannot ping www.ubuntu.com
[12:59] <guzu> elijah, md5sum <something> : out.md5
[12:59] <popS> ethernet controller is Via Tech Rhine-III
[12:59] <guzu> elijah, md5sum <something> out.md5
[12:59] <guzu> sorry :)
[12:59] <neutrinomass> popS: No clue, sorry :(
[12:59] <guzu> elijah, md5sum something  > out.md5
[12:59] <popS> np
[12:59] <guzu> lol
[01:00] <yml> I am located in France and using Free's DNS
[01:00] <yml> it is very strange
[01:00] <elijah> thx everyone:)
[01:01] <elijah> thx guzu:)
[01:01] <guzu> np
[01:02] <popS> DHCPDISCOVER to <IP_ADDRESS> ? Is this the right subnet?
[01:02] <jksd> hi, could someone advise me, if I'm setting up a shell server which allows IRC clients/bots, should I set it up with unmetered bandwidth because of DDoS/smurf etc. attacks, or would it be safe just paying the burstable bandwidth each time I get attacked?
[01:03] <luX`> pff
[01:04] <morphix> popS: my old computers NIC eeprom was buggered.. the card still detected, etc but i COULD NOT use it.. it wouldnt get a IP or transmit any data.. maybe u just have a fudged NIC
[01:04] <jksd> anyone?
[01:04] <Jenny_buntu> help how to download multiple files using btdownloadcurses ?
[01:04] <popS> The funny thing is, that the network works for days and then goes down
[01:05] <yml> Does someone could give me the IP Address of www.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <quux> morphix: I have a NIC that says eeprom corrupt in ubuntu. But works fine in damn small linux
[01:05] <popS> Somebody said something about dhcp-client not renewing but I dont know where to look for that?
[01:05] <Scorpmoon> i I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Officially Supported/Restricted Copyright repository installed, do I also need to install the Officially supported standalone aswell as Restricted copyright?
[01:05] <Scorpmoon> or could I just go along with one main repository with all 4 flags checked?
[01:05] <Jenny_buntu> help how to download multiple files using btdownloadcurses ?
[01:05] <udo> yml tracert the site
[01:05] <udo> or ping
[01:05] <morphix> quux: ok, well mine was truly buggered.. it has a corrupted EEPROM chip
[01:06] <morphix> had*
[01:06] <Kaja> Jenny_buntu, try starting one btdownloadcurses for every torrent you download =/
[01:06] <Jenny_buntu> yml try to ping www.ubuntu.com
[01:06] <Jenny_buntu> Kaja can u pls give me example
[01:07] <Kaja> Jenny_buntu, nope, sorry =(
[01:07] <myfunny> !w32codecs
[01:07] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[01:08] <luX`> !mplayer
[01:08] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:09] <penguser_> Hi
[01:09] <luX`> !commands
[01:09] <ubotu> somebody said commands was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[01:09] <mojojojo_> hello
[01:09] <luX`> !help
[01:09] <[swb] > erk, I have broken dependewncies and apt-get -f install says...pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.E: Unable to correct dependencies
[01:09] <[swb] > any suggestions?
[01:09] <mojojojo_> I've recently updated Ubuntu.... and now the sound doesn't work... Do you know what might be the cause??
[01:09] <mojojojo_> any how to fix it???
[01:10] <penguser_> Sorry I am a newbie as well
[01:11] <morphix> is there a list of what 'extra' is in "dapper alternative" compared to dapper desktop??
[01:12] <bean> hi
[01:12] <bean> my friend installed dapper and grub had problems booting
[01:12] <jksd> could someone advise me, if I'm setting up a shell server which allows IRC clients/bots, should I set it up with unmetered bandwidth because of DDoS/smurf etc. attacks, or would it be safe just paying for the extra bandwidth each time I get attacked?
[01:12] <bigfoot1> in my home directory, i have  .openoffice,  .openoffice.org1.9.milestone, openoffice.org2, Can I delete the first two folders? if so, how?
[01:12] <bean> then he tried to use winxp cd to fixmbr
[01:12] <mojojojo__> hi there!
[01:12] <bean> but it doesn't work
[01:12] <jksd> safe/cheaper
[01:13] <mojojojo__> I've recently updated Ubuntu.... and now the sound doesn't work... Do you know what might be the cause??
[01:13] <bean> help?
[01:13] <jksd> mojojojo_: did you updat through synaptics?
[01:13] <jksd> update
[01:13] <udo> what is mean legancy drivers
[01:13] <mojojojo__> jksd, yes, indeed I did
[01:13] <Scorpmoon> do I use tmp for installing apt-get build-dep's ?
[01:13] <jksd> mojojojo_: I've heard it can cause problems
[01:14] <mojojojo__> sooo, Is there a solution to this?
[01:14] <jksd> mojojojo_: not that I know of, but it might have damaged the hardware
[01:14] <Fee^> anyone able to get Rushing Bender to run in Dapper?
[01:14] <jksd> mojojojo_: I heard of someone whos hard drive went bust over it
[01:14] <jksd> mojojojo_: posibly went bust anyways
[01:14] <mojojojo__> jksd,  no it didn't... under windows everything works just fine :)
[01:15] <jksd> mojojojo_: ah that's good
[01:15] <fiveiron> anyone else notice that the compiz-gnome package is broken?
[01:15] <jksd> mojojojo_: I'm afraid I can't help you though :/
[01:15] <mojojojo__> ok, thx for trying anyway
[01:15] <jksd> np
[01:16] <penguser_> Hi, I am a newbie, got a question about command line.
[01:16] <penguser_> I know in dos u can dor a dir /p
[01:16] <fiveiron> then ask... don't need to preface it
[01:16] <nekromaan> hello, does a 32bit-emulib or program exist for the (k)ubuntu amd64 version?
[01:17] <penguser_> could u do that in Linux?
[01:17] <fiveiron> penguser_, "ls | more"
[01:17] <Kaja> Just ask the friggin question.
[01:17] <penguser_> cool thanks
[01:17] <Raskall> My server is a AMD Sempron 2800+ server. I run a mail server (postfix, amavisd-new, spamassassin and clamav) with appr. 40 mails pr. day traffic. I also have an apache webserver with appr. 150 page loads pr. day and about 10 mysql-databases.
[01:18] <penguser_> that is one line per enter?
[01:18] <penguser_> could I do one page?
[01:18] <Raskall> Should I suffice with 512 MB RAM?
[01:18] <akral> Can anybody help newbie in linux?
[01:18] <Raskall> I need one of the RAM chips in my workstation.
[01:18] <akral> I'd like to mount my NTFS partition, but it is faulty.
[01:18] <akral> mount -t ntfs hda /home/c
[01:18] <akral> says "special device hda does not exist"
[01:19] <Raskall> akral: fdisk -l
[01:19] <assasukasse> i need to set up a web server with ubuntu, but also should suffice as desktop, should i just install Apache and php what about security features?
[01:19] <Raskall> akral: then check the partition number and do the mount command with hdaX, where X is the NTFS partition number
[01:19] <akral> Raskall, I know. It says hda1 and hd5.
[01:19] <akral> I try to mount them, but they don't work either.
[01:19] <udo> what is mean legancy drivers?
[01:19] <akral> /dev/hda5            2933        9732    54620968+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:19] <akral> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # mount -t ntfs hda5 /home/a
[01:19] <akral> mount: special device hda5 does not exist
[01:19] <Raskall> akral: what error message do you get on hda1?
[01:20] <Raskall> akral: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /home/c
[01:20] <Raskall> akral: you need /dev/
[01:20] <yml> Jenny_buntu>	here it is what I get : <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:20] <akral> Oh my, thank you.
[01:20] <akral> I'm such a noob yet >_<
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> assasukasse: just go through the normal installation, and later add php and apache to it (that's what I did on my laptop)
[01:21] <akral> Raskall, another question. I've got my windows disk partitioned and one of the partitions is not really working.
[01:21] <assasukasse> fyrestrtr what about security stuff, how can i add em?
[01:21] <akral> Is there any repair soft, which could go see what's wrong?
[01:22] <jonatan> uhm, is it fair to assume that the upgrades that were released yesterday are a tat bit broken ?
[01:22] <Raskall> akral: That's actually a windows question. I am not sure. I think you are best of finding som windows tools to fix that
[01:23] <akral> Heh, I can't run windows, because it is on that partition. ^_^
[01:23] <akral> It's ok, thank you.
[01:23] <realcoke> hi
[01:23] <Raskall> akral: ok.. try to find system rescue cd on freshmeat.net
[01:23] <Raskall> akral: that might have som tools that can help you
[01:24] <Raskall> akral: it's a live linux distro with a lot of system rescue tools
[01:24] <McNutella> how do I use .bin files ?
[01:24] <akral> Ty. Btw, is it possible to mount ntfs not read-only?
[01:24] <Raskall> akral: but otherwise, I'd boot to the system recovery console from the winxp cd.
[01:24] <McNutella> !bin
[01:24] <ubotu> McNutella: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:25] <popS> any ideas where / how to configure dhcp client to renew / release ip? And should dhcp client ask on <IP_ADDRESS> (is it broadcast to all)
[01:25] <jonatan> Does anyone else have problems with the binary nvidia drivers after the last update ?
[01:26] <DBO> jonatan, using xgl?
[01:26] <jonatan> DBO no
[01:26] <jonatan> It was working fine up until yesterday.
[01:26] <DBO> oh, well anyhow, yes, lots of people are having performance issues
[01:27] <jonatan> DBO, X doesn't even start for me
[01:27] <DBO> ah thats something different
[01:27] <jonatan> DBO it goes through the whole blue progress bar and then I just get a blank loading screen
[01:27] <someothernick> type startx
[01:27] <Raskall> jonatan: have you gotten a new kernel, maybe?
[01:27] <jonatan> Raskall: dunno, I just used aptitude to upgrade whatever packages was available
[01:28] <jonatan> I'm a bit new to this...
[01:28] <someothernick> no error message?
[01:28] <bigfoot1> i've got the scim applet, but it's only got english as an option. how do i get the japanese option that i lost somehow?
[01:29] <jonatan> someothernick: I can't really tell, it freezes after the loading screen
[01:29] <someothernick> :/
[01:29] <Raskall> jonatan: try going through the nvidia driver installation once more. I recall having similar problems with breezy on my server.
[01:30] <jonatan> Raskall: hmm, ok, I suppose that coudl work , shoudl I purge first and just reinstall it ?
[01:30] <Raskall> I'd try to reinstall first. Without purge
[01:30] <jonatan> ok
[01:30] <Raskall> jonatan: but first, do a "sudo lsmod |grep nv"
[01:31] <Raskall> jonatan: that will tell you if the nvidia module/driver is loaded
[01:31] <Raskall> jonatan: if not, do a "sudo modprobe nvidia" and post the error message here if you get one.
[01:31] <jonatan> Raskall: its using nv at the moment, I had to do nvidia-glx-config disable in order to boot
[01:32] <MetaMorfoziS> and glxinfo | direct if directrendering yes or no:)
[01:35] <jonatan> hmm, ok , will try it again
[01:35] <dirtyagents> hello!
[01:35] <realcoke> hello
[01:36] <vermoos> wotcha
[01:36] <udo> what is mean legancy drivers?
[01:36] <dirtyagents> anyone who knows : is it possible to use chinese input-SCIM in Default EN system?
[01:36] <Khismett> "Legacy" drivers are the ones for older cards
[01:38] <udo> i dont setup my sound in dapper i dont hear any sound also my system detect my card (ac97)
[01:39] <vermoos> udo: have you enabled the universe repository (by editing /etc/apt/sources.list ?)
[01:39] <udo> and all volumes is up what happen
[01:39] <udo> no only for xine i enable the universe repository
[01:40] <udo> for sound what can i do
[01:40] <vermoos> udo: sound should be ok in dapper
[01:40] <udo> no
[01:40] <schalken> is it possible to make a package for ubuntu and put it up in the repository?
[01:40] <udo> how
[01:41] <vermoos> udo: what about simple system sounds?
[01:41] <udo> which command?
[01:41] <udo> nothing
[01:41] <schalken> im sorry?
[01:41] <jrib> schalken: search for "motu" on the wiki
[01:41] <dirtyagents>  anyone who knows : is it possible to use chinese input-SCIM in Default EN system?
[01:41] <udo> i cant hear anything
[01:42] <udo> i play a dvd without sound :)
[01:42] <vermoos> udo: System > Preferences > sounds > test sounds
[01:42] <udo> nothing hearing
[01:43] <vermoos> udo: where it says "Default sound card", does that match the one on your system?
[01:43] <udo> yes
[01:43] <udo> VIA 8237
[01:43] <udo> ac97 chipset
[01:44] <udo> what can i do
[01:44] <chennaituxian> udo: laptop or desktop ?
[01:44] <vermoos> udo: check the volume.
[01:44] <udo> desktop
[01:44] <chennaituxian> have alsamixer ?
[01:44] <udo> yes
[01:44] <vermoos> udo: top right hand side, by the date.
[01:44] <chennaituxian> is the PCM value up ?
[01:44] <udo> yes all
[01:45] <chennaituxian> udo: no sound or less sound ?
[01:45] <udo> is there any command should i install
[01:45] <udo> no sound
[01:46] <chennaituxian> checked launchpad.net fore any known bug or bug-fixes for ur sound card ?
[01:46] <udo> where?
[01:46] <schalken> if i were to install apache, php and mysql packages, how much configuration would be needed to get them working?
[01:46] <schalken> working together, i mean
[01:46] <chennaituxian> go to launchpad.net and search for your sound card name
[01:47] <jrib> ubotu: tell schalken about lamp
[01:47] <Bazzi> schalken: a dozen console commands and you should be set
[01:47] <udo> what os lauchpad.net
[01:47] <udo> what is lauchpad.net
[01:47] <chennaituxian> schalken: very minimal dude
[01:47] <hiver> hiya evry1
[01:48] <hiver> ANY1 WANNA CHAT?
[01:48] <jrib> udo: among other things, you can file bugs for ubuntu there
[01:48] <chennaituxian> udo: its the official open source bug tracker
[01:48] <hiver> how old r u  guys??????????
[01:48] <chennaituxian> hiver: this is not chat room
[01:49] <jrib> hiver: this isn't really a chat channel, it's for Ubuntu support
[01:49] <chennaituxian> schalken: install apache2, php5 and mysql-common
[01:49] <schalken> i had just installed XAMPP for Linux, and thought the easy-to-install webserver should be in the repos, then realised the XAMPP components are already in the repos individually.
[01:49] <chennaituxian> configure php.ini for ur mysql
[01:50] <schalken> maybe someone should make a LAMPP metapackage!!!
[01:50] <schalken> (which configures everything for you)
[01:50] <imbrandon> schalken, and if you download the server cd you can choose to install lamp preconfigured
[01:50] <Bazzi> I think there is one
[01:50] <chennaituxian> schalken: installing them individually and configuring is no herculian task
[01:51] <jrib> schalken: the link ubotu sent you tells you exactly what you need to do, step by step
[01:51] <schalken> chennaituxian: true, but i just thought it should be as easy and with all the nick-nacks as XAMPP ;)
[01:51] <imbrandon> schalken, and if you download the server cd you can choose to install lamp preconfigured
[01:51] <Bazzi> schalken: it is, if using the server cd :)
[01:52] <chennaituxian> schalken: agreed but its always better to know how to configure than using something that happens out of the box, ;)
[01:52] <schalken> chennaituxian: fair point
[01:53] <lin> fuck ubuntu
[01:53] <harry_> is there a disk defragmenter that we should perform like in windows here on ubuntu??
[01:53] <lin> fuck fuck fuck
[01:53] <chennaituxian> Lin: :o
[01:53] <schalken> this lampp metapackage should add a applications menu item 'start LAMPP' and 'stop LAMPP'
[01:53] <harry_> is there a disk defragmenter that we should perform like in windows here on ubuntu??
[01:53] <Bazzi> schalken: a lampp is meant to always run
[01:53] <lin> this fucking "keyboard label" bug @ the menu items should go away
[01:53] <jrib> !langhage
[01:53] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jrib
[01:53] <jrib> !language
[01:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[01:53] <jrib> harry_: nope
[01:54] <schalken> Bazzi: uhm.. another fair point.
[01:54] <chennaituxian> harry_: why do u need a disk defragmenter for ubuntu ?
[01:54] <lin> these maintainers are just dump
[01:54] <Bazzi> schalken: if using it for development purposes only, I recomment setting up a vmware/qemu/... using an ubuntu-server installation
[01:54] <chennaituxian> lin: whats ur problem ?
[01:54] <schalken> harry_: no, if there was it should come with the OS. but AFAIK todays filesystems do not need to be defragmented like old windows FAT did
[01:54] <Bazzi> recommend*
[01:55] <harry_> chennaituxian: i dont know, i just thought the same thing since i was new on ubuntu linux. i'm just making sure
[01:55] <Madpilot> lin, be polite, or leave.
[01:55] <chennaituxian> harry_: u dont need defragmenter for linux
[01:55] <Kibou> what about defragging a fat partition?
[01:55] <harry_> schalken. so i dont nid to worry of anything everytime i switch on and before shutting down my computer?
[01:55] <lin> when debian etch @ AMD64 is ready im gone for good from ubuntu
[01:56] <schalken> Kibou: im sure there is some tool out there to do that form linux ;) there always is
[01:56] <chennaituxian> harry_: obviously, why u need to worry ?
[01:56] <Kibou> never heard of one actually.. hmm
[01:56] <chennaituxian> Kibou: google, u may get answers
[01:56] <schalken> harry_: lol i never said that. but afaik the ext3 filesystem should not need defragmenting
[01:57] <Kibou> why don't you google and give me some answers? ;)
[01:57] <harry_> chennaituxian: i just want to keep my computer running from what it was smoothly..
[01:57] <schalken> Kibou: okay, maybe i will
[01:57] <chennaituxian> schalken: thanks!
[01:58] <paniq> hey
[01:58] <paniq> anyone knows a good tool that keeps track of old files and manages deletion/backup?
[01:59] <paniq> basically it should help me to keep free harddrive space
[01:59] <lin> hey you stupid ubuntu devs go and fix this >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197984&highlight=keyboard+label bug
[01:59] <lin> you dump fags
[01:59] <paniq> hahaha
[01:59] <paniq> lin this is a sanctuary of divine love and human understanding, please watch your language, you asstard.
[01:59] <jrib> lin: that's really not the right way to get people to help you
[01:59] <Allz-i-> hello can someone help me -i am trying to make music- i have mic but dont know how to -mix a music
[02:00] <morphix> lin: you should leave if you kept acting like that.
[02:00] <schalken> http://www.pclinuxonline.com/wiki/WindowsLinuxDifferencesHdd look under the 'Defragmentation' subheading
[02:00] <jrib> !ops
[02:00] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:00] <morphix> keep*
[02:00] <Hobbsee> jrib: ?
[02:00] <paniq> morphix: i think it was meant to be offending.
[02:00] <paniq> haha
[02:00] <paniq> sad ;)
[02:00] <Hobbsee> oh good, i got the right user
[02:00] <jrib> Hobbsee: lin is being offensive
[02:00] <paniq> i dont think he was serious
[02:00] <paniq> its a german
[02:00] <Hobbsee> jrib: so i saw :P
[02:00] <paniq> i'm german too, i know how it is.
[02:01] <paniq> we're fed up by american political correctness :P
[02:01] <Allz-i-> please -does nobody - make a music - you know
[02:01] <pom> hello, people here with Inspiron laptop experience?
[02:01] <Allz-i-> i am a rapper -and i need some good shitt -program
[02:01] <jrib> pom: I use an inspiron 8200
[02:02] <morphix> i just hate the ppl who start getting angry at ppl trying to help.
[02:02] <beeldsnijder> KAN IEMAND MIJ HELPEN
[02:02] <jrib> !nl
[02:02] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[02:02] <lsuactiafner> how do i allow my server, running apache, to accept connections wich originates from the proxy running on the same box, the website displays fine from remote pcs, but when the proxy tries to access it it says the requested url doesnt exist
[02:02] <lsuactiafner> slackware gave no problems
[02:03] <paniq> morphix: angryness is an archaic emotion that has been exercised over millions of years of human existence and therefore should not be denied.
[02:03] <beeldsnijder> HOE KAN IK EEN INSTALL UITVOREN ONDER UBUNTO
[02:03] <paniq> morphix: just as hate ;)
[02:03] <pom> jrib: with battery on linux it's spends more energy than on windows
[02:03] <morphix> meh.
[02:03] <schalken> Kibou: okay, i cant find a linux tool to defragment FAT disks :p
[02:03] <pom> jrib: yours too? it's about an hour less on battery
[02:03] <chennaituxian> schalken: aha!
[02:03] <paniq> i actually find it funny when i'm being insulted so moronly like that.
[02:03] <paniq> insults have to be personal and targeted to be hurting.
[02:03] <Kibou> schalken: me neither.. just a bunch of people confirming that there's none
[02:04] <ROBOd> hey guys
[02:04] <schalken> Kibou: yeah
[02:04] <schalken> ROBOd: hey
[02:04] <chennaituxian> Kibou: this shows no need to defragment :p
[02:04] <ROBOd> is there a way to install vlc 0.8.5 in ubuntu 6.06?
[02:04] <schalken> !vlc
[02:04] <ubotu> somebody said vlc was a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[02:04] <ROBOd> any binaries? :)
[02:04] <Kibou> chennaituxian: fat needs defragging.
[02:04] <ROBOd> eh
[02:04] <schalken> ROBOd: any in the repos?
[02:04] <ROBOd> that's vlc 0.8.4
[02:04] <ROBOd> i already got it, i want vlc 0.8.5 :)
[02:04] <schalken> ROBOd: ah okay
[02:05] <ROBOd> schalken: any ideas?
[02:05] <pom> jrib: alleen nederlands?
[02:06] <schalken> ROBOd: if you cant find it in the repos or anywhere by googling, you might need to compile it from source. then go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates and make a request to put it in the repos
[02:06] <jonatan> hmmm, no luck ...
[02:07] <enu> bonjour
[02:07] <Scorpmoon> how do I apt-get remove package where all the dependencies i installed with this package gets removed too??
[02:07] <_jason> pom: oh, I've given up on my battery, it's too old to keep a charge longer than half an hour.  Maybe searching the forums might be more helpful, I think I remember other users discussing that there
[02:08] <jonatan> Ok, so I've tried reisntalling the nvidia drivers, I've tried purging the drivers and then installing them again, doesn't help, X still won't start but just gives me the Kubuntu loading screen
[02:08] <_jason> Scorpmoon: look into deborphan.  In the future if you use aptitude to isntall a package, when you use aptitude to remove it, it will also remvoe deps
[02:08] <jonatan> the nv drivers work fine ...
[02:08] <Scorpmoon> jason, i see, thanks
[02:08] <pom> _jason: yes, but it's to laptop specific I guess, not? I was just wondering why it's getting hotter than in windows and it uses more power
[02:09] <Scorpmoon> jason, i couldnt do it this time, as I used apt-get build-dep
[02:10] <schalken> ROBOd: have a look at http://nightlies.videolan.org/ , down at the dapper/breezy section. im not sure whether these builds are stable or not (being nightly CVS builds) but they should be the latest
[02:10] <jonatan> uhm, this looks bad: glxgears -> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[02:10] <Allz-i-> PLEASE someone -help me -i am trying to find a program that can help Me -mix A music
[02:11] <schalken> Allz-i-: uhm, what are you trying to do?
[02:11] <_jason> pom: the only things I know about are reducing the cpu frequency when you don't need it and turning off the hard disks when you don't need them, maybe ubuntu isn't doing that for you
[02:12] <_jason> Allz-i-: look into audacity
[02:12] <rpedro> Allz-i-: like traktion?
[02:12] <pom> _jason: cpu frequency scaling is ok, hd too as far as I can see
[02:13] <Allz-i-> dno -i have done the
[02:13] <Allz-i->   Niurstur 1 - 10 af um a bil 338.000.000 fyrir my block. (0,22 sekndur)
[02:13] <Allz-i->   2PAC LYRICS
[02:13] <Allz-i-> ups
[02:13] <Allz-i-> sO Sorry -wrong channel
[02:13] <rpedro> Allz-i-: if so, look into http://mixxx.sourceforge.net.
[02:14] <_jason> pom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83876&highlight=extend+battery+life this one has some good suggestions in the last post, maybe you can look more into them
[02:15] <Allz-i-> rpedro
[02:15] <rpedro> Allz-i-: yes?
[02:15] <fausto_> heelo
[02:15] <Allz-i-> i want to sing with it
[02:15] <Allz-i-> i am creating a music
[02:15] <Allz-i-> i have done the lyric
[02:16] <rpedro> Allz-i-: like karaoke , or your own music?
[02:16] <fausto_> hello friends
[02:16] <Allz-i-> my own
[02:16] <pom> _jason: thx
[02:16] <schalken> fausto_: hello!
[02:16] <rpedro> Allz-i-: wait
[02:16] <Allz-i-> ok+
[02:17] <Scorpmoon> does Ubuntu support Cool'n'Quiet from scratch with amd64?
[02:17] <rpedro> Allz-i-: if you just want to record audio, use ardour
[02:18] <Allz-i-> you know tupac right?
[02:18] <Allz-i-> tupac shakur ?
[02:18] <rpedro> Allz-i-: if also midi, you can ,for example, rosegarden, or maybe something like ardour+hydrogen
[02:18] <Stefano> hello everybody
[02:18] <rpedro> tupac?
[02:18] <rpedro> nope
[02:18] <Stefano> I'm very happy with ubuntu 6.06 but I have some troubles to resolve
[02:18] <Allz-i-> ok what evha -i am trying to sing with him -you know?
[02:19] <Allz-i-> it is like mix
[02:19] <Stefano> for example the good thing was that ubuntu found my wireless card
[02:19] <rpedro> Allz-i-: you want to take out the vocals, and overdub yourself singing?
[02:19] <Stefano> but I can't use it and I don't know why...
[02:19] <Allz-i-> YES
[02:19] <Allz-i-> thank you
[02:19] <Stefano> anybody can help me?
[02:19] <Allz-i-> for understanding
[02:20] <drummer87> hey all, can anyone tell me how to make nautilus preview only image files, I like having thumbs for pics, but it just gets slow with videos
[02:20] <kbrooks> Announcing "Kids newspaper": http://kbrooks.ath.cx/kidsnewspaper/ :-)
[02:20] <kbrooks> drummer87: looking
[02:20] <rpedro> Allz-i-: maybe audacity does this (remove the vocals), but you probably would use some multitrack program like ardour to sing over the resulting audio track
[02:21] <Stefano> don't you know how to make it running?
[02:21] <Allz-i-> ok -ill try
[02:21] <Allz-i-> thank you
[02:21] <tubbie> hi
[02:21] <rpedro> Allz-i-: np ;)
[02:21] <tubbie> what tool can I use to convery djvu files to pdf?
[02:21] <kbrooks> drummer87: places > home folder
[02:21] <tubbie> convert
[02:21] <rixxon> can i change how a gnome theme lays out the buttons in the taskbar? i want this theme to "fill" like the "human" theme does
[02:21] <schalken> drummer87: im not sure if thats possible. if you want, you can make it only preview files smaller than i certain size. but i think images and video preview is handled as one
[02:22] <rixxon> it uses some screwed up algorithm, it's really wierd
[02:22] <kbrooks> drummer87:  edit > preferences
[02:22] <rixxon> (Gray theme)
[02:22] <Stefano> don't you want to help me?
[02:22] <kbrooks> drummer87: go to preview
[02:22] <schalken> drummer87: i dont find the loading of a video preview slow at all, anyway
[02:22] <rpedro> Allz-i-: take a look at http://ubuntustudio.com/ , they might have some howot for karaoke or whatever you want to call it
[02:23] <Allz-i-> hehe
[02:23] <Allz-i-> i dont need it
[02:23] <Allz-i-> ;)
[02:23] <Stefano> Otherwise can anybody suggest me a wireless card you're sure it will run on linux without oproblems?
[02:23] <armedking> Anyone know what package i have to install to get a Public File Server going?
[02:23] <drummer87> hmm... yes, i'm having problems with some .dat files more specifically, which nautilus is thinking are mpegs, but aren't, so is getting stuck on them
[02:23] <Allz-i-> but thanks
[02:23] <drummer87> and they're as small as image files
[02:23] <schalken> drummer87: ahhhh, hmm, not sure then
[02:23] <Stefano> a wireless card with open-source drivers without problem to run it????????
[02:23] <schalken> drummer87: i remember having this problem in windows
[02:23] <schalken> that*
[02:24] <drummer87> oh well... looking through gconf anyway, might find something there
[02:25] <Stefano> can anybody suggest me a wireless card for linux you're certain it will run?
[02:25] <drummer87> Stefano: Atheros chipset works well w/ madwifi drivers
[02:26] <Stefano> yes
[02:26] <_rodney> lines on screen dapper any fix
[02:26] <Stefano> but .. ehm... i live in switzerland and I've never found them
[02:26] <_rodney> ?
[02:26] <drummer87> aparently Prism is tried and true, but I've never used a card with that chip
[02:26] <tyrchyus> hi
[02:26] <Stefano> only us robotics(i have the router and the card, but -.. ehm .. problems preoblsm problems ..) and zyxel is too expensive and not good
[02:27] <tyrchyus> what is the command to restart the hotplug system?
[02:27] <Stefano> drummer87: suggestions?
[02:28] <tyrchyus> the command for breezy not works
[02:29] <drummer87> Stefano: I haven't had much experience with wifi cards really.. I'm using a dlink dwl-g520 atm and is working well with wpa_supplicant. I was using a netgear wg311v2 (acx111 chip) with ndiswrapper, but that seemed to be playing up since upping to dapper so i swapped cards
[02:30] <Stefano> yes .. but I don't think, you have 10 meters cable between the router and your computer
[02:31] <bjornkri> ohoy
[02:31] <jonatan> uhm, I'm having a bit of a problem with X / nvidia drivers
[02:32] <jonatan> more specifically startx gives me an error saying it couldn't find module nvidia ...
[02:32] <graveson> anyone have experience with a dvb and the scan command ?
[02:32] <bjornkri> I coulnd't make up my mind about editors, so I opened a file in vim, then in gedit, then in vim again... and now all of a sudden it's filled with ^Ms at the end of every line... What happened and how can I fix it? :)
[02:32] <Stefano> drmmer87: should a zyxel card with etheos chipset wok with a us robotics router?
[02:32] <rbn-> I made a live cd, and put my dvd-drive as first boot device but it always boots Windows anyway. I don't even get trhe option to boot from the cd.
[02:32] <rpedro> !tell jonatan about nvidia
[02:33] <Lapis_> Good morning, #ubuntu
[02:33] <Stefano> drummer87: thew only problem is that it isn't a pci card: it's an susb stick
[02:33] <Scorpmoon> how do I safely install a downloaded .sh file?
[02:33] <schalken> Lapis_: Good evening!
[02:33] <jonatan> rpedro: I have had it working for about a month now, I have read hundreds of wikis, but somehow, after doing an update last friday, X refuses to start
[02:33] <Lapis_> I've got a little question. After booting up Ubuntu it seems to take several minutes for my network interface card to begin transmitting properly. Any ideas why that is? It shows up as enabled and all that jaz, but no deal.
[02:34] <jonatan> rpedro: they are installed, xorg.conf is set up , I have used nvidia-glx-config enable , but X just won't start
[02:34] <mumbles> how do i get grub back after a windows reinstalll ?
[02:34] <oRGy> Simple question - how do I configure grub?  I want to remove some obsolete entries.
[02:34] <rbn-> I made a live cd, and put my dvd-drive as first boot device but it always boots Windows anyway. I don't even get trhe option to boot from the cd. Any ideas?
[02:34] <drummer87> Stefano: I don't know specifically, but in general products should be cross compatable, i have dlink card and a netgear router. I have no idea if the wifi adapter will work in ubuntu though
[02:34] <I_Died_Once> I have an odd question
[02:35] <schalken> Scorpmoon: i dont think there are any options other than to execute it. double-clicking on it i think allows you to do that. if not, navigate to its directory in the terminal and type ./filename.sh (where filename is its filename)
[02:35] <oRGy> rbn - sure it was burned as an image?
[02:35] <drummer87> Stefano: there's a list in the ubuntu wiki of cards tested with ubuntu, might be a good place to start if looking for a new card
[02:35] <bjornkri> right, never mind, deleted all the Ms manually
[02:35] <Stefano> drummer87: a good idea migh be to buy an in tel pci card: I've heard that they should work in linux