[00:03] <soren> hallyn, slangasek: Found it.
[00:03] <soren> # Consult white-list to determine whether to enable werror
[00:03] <soren> # by default.  Only enable by default for git builds
[00:03] <soren> z_version=`cut -f3 -d. $source_path/VERSION`
[00:04] <soren> qemu-linaro-1.0-2011.12/VERSION:1.0
[00:04] <soren> qemu-linaro-1.0.50-2012.01/VERSION:1.0.50
[00:04] <soren> slangasek: So -Werror gets enabled becuase there's a microversion.
[00:05] <slangasek> aha! :)
[00:05] <soren> Sorry, poor cut/paste job. The first three lines there are from configure. the last to are the VERSION files from the older and the newer qemu, respectively.,
[00:05] <soren> *last two
[00:05] <slangasek> right, so maybe we should disable that again in the package for now
[00:05] <soren> Bit of a brain bender there :)
[00:11] <RAOF> soren: That error message suggests that you'll be trading a build failure for a run-time crash, though?
[00:16] <lifeless> RAOF: clearly preferrable :P
[00:31] <slangasek> RAOF: pretty unlikely, really
[00:32] <slangasek> I suspect spice-protocol is using a wrong integer type for "int that can store a pointer"
[00:32] <RAOF> slangasek: Maybe my experience is atypical, but for me that error generally indicates someone's going to try to jump through the low 32 bits of a 64bit pointer :)
[00:33] <slangasek> RAOF: yes, but this error *only* occurs on *32* bit systems :)
[00:33] <RAOF> Ah.  Context!
[00:48] <lool> micahg: Absolutely not, it's yours
[00:48] <lool> micahg: thanks for checking
[01:02] <Sarvatt> SpamapS: were you specifying mtrack in your xorg.conf or something? You have a macbook air if I'm not mistaken right? synaptics works absolutely fine on these
[01:10] <bryceh> SpamapS, I closed out the bug with an explanation of what's going on
[01:11] <bryceh> SpamapS, thanks for filing it, I hadn't really looked at mtrack until this.
[05:11] <pitti> Good morning
[05:39] <tjaalton> I've uploaded mesa 8.0~rc2 which needs some help from an archive admin to push it through NEW, it adds libxatracker which is needed by xserver-xorg-video-vmware (and demoed at FOSDEM tomorrow I'm told..)
[05:39] <tjaalton> so if someone could give it a push once it's uploaded, that'd be great
[05:40] <pitti> ah, it's not yet in the queue
[05:40] <tjaalton> yeah it'll take some time to build too
[07:58] <wgrant> pitti: Bug #924181 looks like apport is trying to set a tag with capital letters in it, which is forbidden.
[08:08] <pitti> wgrant: ah, thanks! will adjust accordingly
[08:09] <wgrant> pitti: Thanks.
[08:16] <tjaalton> pitti: x86 mesa built. can you accept the new binaries now, or should the other archs be finished building before accepting?
[08:16] <pitti> tjaalton: we usually wait for most arches; if it's very urgent, I can accept them now
[08:16] <tjaalton> well I don't know how long the arm* and powerpc builds take
[08:17] <tjaalton> I can check and get back to you
[08:17] <pitti> tjaalton: I'm not that concerned about ppc -- it's notoriously behind anyway
[08:18] <tjaalton> well armel will take around 11h :)
[08:18] <tjaalton> but maybe armhf is faster?
[08:18] <pitti> ok, looking
[08:18] <tjaalton> thanks
[08:20] <dholbach> good morning
[08:21] <pitti> tjaalton: accepted
[08:21] <pitti> hey dholbach, guten Morgen
[08:21] <dholbach> hey pitti
[08:23] <tjaalton> pitti: ty
[08:33] <pitti> micahg: lucid-proposed has gecko-mediaplayer and moon, but the two tasks on the tracking bug are all "New"; what should happen with these?
[08:40] <pitti> zul: what's with all the new package uploads to oneiric-proposed? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+queue?queue_state=0
[08:40] <pitti> zul: were they meant for -backports, or something else?
[08:42] <pitti> jtaylor: rejecting python-networkx oneiric-proposed, as it does not have a bug link; can you please reupload?
[08:46] <FourDollars> dholbach: About https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/923637/comments/4 "ACKed, sync performed, sitting in the NEW queue, to be reviewed by our archive admins", where can I see the status?
[08:46]  * apw is attempting an update today and every :i386 package i have appears to be being 'REMOVED' is that to be expected in precise?
[08:49] <pitti> apw: the buildds are clogged due to the rebuild test, and thus we have a lot of i386 vs. amd64 build desync
[08:49] <pitti> apw: so it's not unlikely that you hit a library which already has built on i386 but not yet on amd64
[08:49] <pitti> multiarch requires them to be in sync
[08:49] <pitti> so perhaps only apt-get upgrade today
[08:50] <apw> pitti, ok thans
[08:51] <diwic> if multiarch requires i386 and amd64 to be in sync, maybe launchpad must be modified not to publish one of them but not the other?
[08:51] <apw> or apt modified to not think removing my packages is the solution
[08:51] <wgrant> diwic: That gets extraordinarily awkward when you have powerpc lagging, and build failures.
[08:51] <apw> but to hold them back instead
[08:51] <diwic> wouldn't be fun to have these kind of issues in an SRU situation, I can imagine
[08:51] <wgrant> apw: A normal upgrade should do that.
[08:51] <wgrant> Only dist-upgrade will remove.
[08:52] <wgrant> diwic: SRUs are copied atomically from -proposed to -updates.
[08:52] <apw> and dist-upgrade is what update-manager is doing no ?
[08:52] <wgrant> diwic: After they've built.
[08:52] <pitti> well, dist-upgrade is really the "normal" case, t hough
[08:52] <diwic> wgrant, I'm not saying wait for all; just wait for amd64 and i386 to be in sync
[08:52] <apw> and indeed what i am always advised i need to do to actually have what the archive intends on my machine
[08:52] <wgrant> diwic: But what if I have armel installed as well? :)
[08:53] <apw> thats why it needs to be apt side, it knows what combinations you have installed
[08:53] <diwic> wgrant, hmm, there are no amd64-armel dependencies the way there are amd64-i386 dependencies (for certain software)
[08:54] <diwic> so is the situation really applicable on that case?
[08:54] <wgrant> diwic: But it's very possible to have armel binaries installed on an amd64 system.
[08:54] <wgrant> And multiarch requires that the versions be identical.
[08:54] <wgrant> Regardless of dependencies.
[08:56] <wgrant> It's similar to the old arch-all skew issue, which we solved in Launchpad a few months ago.
[08:56] <wgrant> Right around the time the multiarch problem sprung up :D
[08:56] <diwic> wgrant, hmm, maybe we need to fix/improve multiarch instead then? I can understand cases where both amd64 and armel would depend on an -all package
[08:56] <diwic> in which case the upgrade must be held back until both versions are ready
[08:56] <wgrant> That's a bit of a challenge.
[08:57] <wgrant> That would be doable, I imagine.
[08:57] <wgrant> But removing the version match restriction is a little difficult.
[08:57] <diwic> but maybe I should go back to discuss what I know :-) and trust you guys to work out apt for me.
[09:02] <dholbach> FourDollars, normally https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue
[09:02] <dholbach> FourDollars, but it seems it was accepted already
[09:02] <dholbach> FourDollars, http://pad.lv/u/hime
[09:04] <FourDollars> dholbach: Thanks.
[09:35] <apw> pitti, any idea how long we are going to be skewed by the buildds?  as i have half of the X update installed now as a result of doing 'update' and i am not sure thats a good combination
[09:35] <apw> pitti, hopefully its not the 12/13 days that the status page implies
[09:39] <pitti> apw: no, I think a day or less
[09:39] <pitti> apw: the 13 days is because we are running a rebuild test on the main builders
[09:39] <pitti> but most is universe
[09:39] <apw> pitti, why is the rebuild on the main builders, and if its going to be, why are we not putting some more online
[09:39] <pitti> I don't know
[09:40]  * apw assumes its cause they are doing armhf as well
[09:40] <pitti> apw: you know, if only we had some technology to temporarily rent 200 vboxes from amazon or so..
[09:41] <apw> pitti, or perhaps we had our own openstack instance
[09:41]  * pitti guesses it's to heat up the DC
[09:41]  * pitti brrrrrs at -14 degrees
[09:41] <apw> pitti, now that is cold, i am whining cause its -1 outside
[09:42] <tjaalton> you had some general warning that it might get -10 or even less :)
[09:42] <tjaalton> we have -17 and a blizzard
[09:42] <tjaalton> was fun driving this morning
[09:45]  * apw isn't going out "there"
[09:48] <Laney> One of the brakes on my bike was frozen this morning ...
[09:49] <smb> apw, You would feel awake and alive... well for about 1 minute... :)
[09:49] <cking> it's a relatively balmy -1 degrees C here
[09:50]  * diwic weighs in at -11
[09:56]  * tumbleweed waves from the land of 28°C :)
[09:56] <dholbach>  /ignore tumbleweed
[09:56] <dholbach> "oops"
[09:57] <dholbach> :)
[09:58]  * apw puts hit feet on tumbleweed
[09:58] <apw> his
[09:59]  * Laney is wearing 2.3 tog rated socks :-)
[09:59] <ajmitch> tumbleweed: now that's just cruel
[09:59] <Laney> mini duvets
[10:03]  * tumbleweed decides he should mabe put a shirt on
[10:18] <MacSlow> mvo, ping
[10:19] <apw> cjwatson, i upgraded O->P and its not kept the latest kernel from the old series correctly, any idea what does that chosing ?
[10:27] <cjwatson> apw: there is a ticket open already to upgrade the primary buildd pool
[10:27] <cjwatson> apw: upgrade> um, not sure I understand
[10:28] <apw> cjwatson, i thought that when we upgrade N -> N+1 that we keep the latest kernel installed from N as well as a fallback
[10:28] <apw> my upgrade seems to have purged that kernel
[10:28] <cjwatson> apw: I thought that was usually just by way of not removing the currently-installed kernel
[10:28] <cjwatson> apw: if there's any specialised logic here, it must be in update-manager
[10:29] <apw> cjwatson, ahh, so if i was runnning something else i'd not keep it, ok that makes sense at least
[10:30] <cjwatson> apw: update-manager/DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeCache.py:MyCache.identifyObsoleteKernels(), I think
[10:30] <apw> cjwatson, thanks :)
[10:30] <cjwatson> indeed it removes obsolete kernels but skips the running kernel
[10:30] <apw> which actually is very logical, as that one clearly works
[10:30] <cjwatson> right :)
[10:31] <mvo> MacSlow: pong
[10:31] <apw> cjwatson, so i now forgive it :)
[10:32] <mvo> *puhhh*
[10:32] <Pjotr> cjwatson: in ubiquity, there's an incorrect and misleading message, which should be adapted or deleted, IMHO. Because it may lead to damage.
[10:32] <Pjotr> I've made a Launchpad bug report about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/925427
[10:33] <Pjotr> Can you do something about it?
[10:33] <cjwatson> mpt: ^-
[10:33] <cjwatson> I believe that's a design-specified message, and it's already been through an iteration or two.  I'd like mpt to review and suggest an amended design rather than just changing it myself.
[10:35] <mpt> ah yes
[10:35] <mpt> I don't think there's been a formal test on it, but that's tripped up everyone I've watched installing
[10:36] <mpt> Not that they think installation is finished, but that they sit there waiting for something else to happen
[10:37] <cjwatson> The original intent was to remind people that the installer is currently waiting for you to finish answering questions before it can carry on
[10:37] <cjwatson> "Get on with it"
[10:37] <apw> :)
[10:37] <apw> "Waiting for you to complete the configuration questions"
[10:37] <cjwatson> Gets a bit long for a button :)
[10:37] <cjwatson> Er, actually it isn't a button is it
[10:38] <mpt> cjwatson, do you have a screenshot handy?
[10:38] <cjwatson> Not immediately
[10:38]  * cjwatson googles
[10:41] <Pjotr> I'm sorry, I have no screenshot either...
[10:42] <cjwatson> mpt: http://cache.sudobits.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/create-user.png
[10:42] <cjwatson> from http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/09/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-11-10-from-usb-drive-or-cd/
[10:42] <cjwatson> it might appear on previous question pages as well
[10:44] <Pjotr> It's not related to any Ubiquity instance that needs a user action. In that way, the screenshot is a bit confusing
[10:46] <cjwatson> Hmm?  It certainly is - it's waiting for the user to complete the action of answering all the questions
[10:46] <cjwatson> The user setup page constitutes some of those questions
[10:46] <mpt> thanks cjwatson -- I think this is going to require more than a string fix unfortunately
[10:47] <Pjotr> No, the answering could have happened earlier on, and been finished already.
[10:47]  * cjwatson eyes his upcoming leave
[10:47] <cjwatson> Pjotr: In that case you won't get the "Ready when you are" message.
[10:47] <Pjotr> the "ready when you are" message happens anyway, regardless
[10:47] <mpt> I've talked about this with ev before, maybe moving the progress bar bit to the top and then saying something like "While we're doing that..."
[10:47] <cjwatson> Pjotr: It's not supposed to.  That would be a separate problem.
[10:49] <cjwatson> mpt: OK, I definitely won't have time for that, so I guess the question is whether we can reasonably do something intermediate
[10:49] <cjwatson> Fixing the message being shown when we aren't actually waiting for the user would be an example
[10:50] <Pjotr> sounds fine to me... :-)
[10:50] <cjwatson> Unfortunately that code is some of the twistiest in ubiquity ...
[10:54] <cjwatson> Maybe http://paste.ubuntu.com/827492/ (untested)
[10:55] <mpt> "This flight is ready to depart. All other passengers are waiting for you."
[10:55] <cjwatson> I had that for me once - I made like Linford Christie
[10:55] <Pjotr> It's a bit above my head now... Thanks for the attention that you're giving this matter. Hopefully you'll be able to fix it before Precise ships.
[10:56] <Pjotr> Goodbye
[10:59] <mpt> cjwatson, how many steps are there after that progress bar appears?  That should be a simple GTK property, right?
[11:07] <mpt> And then re-showing it once stuff starts happening again.
[11:09] <cjwatson> mpt: Wasn't the worry about that that people didn't notice that we were waiting for them?
[11:09] <cjwatson> Maybe that isn't a real concern
[11:09] <mpt> cjwatson, I think the root cause is either that they see a progress bar and think that something's happening, or that they see a filled progress bar and think that everything's finished.
[11:10] <cjwatson> We'd want to avoid the window resizing
[11:10] <mpt> yes
[11:10] <cjwatson> Let's see.  This takes ages to test unfortunately ...
[11:11] <cjwatson> I wonder how bad it would be to hide all the elements but keep the black area
[11:11] <mpt> (BTW I was hunting around for a screencast of the installation process to give me more context, and then realized, oh, YouTube. There's hundreds of them.)
[11:12] <mpt> cjwatson, I think that would be fine.
[11:12] <cjwatson> Yeah, I don't bother keeping screencasts any more because the Internet does it for me
[11:12] <cjwatson> In fact the black area balances nicely with the title area, doesn't it ...
[11:13] <mpt> yes
[11:13] <cjwatson> Happy to give that a try and see what it does
[11:20] <cjwatson> Damn, and this test requires me to sit and watch the installer because I need to see what it does just after it's finished copying files ...
[12:03] <dholbach> seb128, salut mon ami
[12:04] <dholbach> what do we do with goocanvas-2.0 in the queue? :)
[12:17] <seb128> dholbach, hey, sorry I was at lunch
[12:17] <seb128> dholbach, I was thinking about that yesterday, what about the other sources for murray? ;-)
[12:17] <seb128> didrocks, Riddell: is there any chance you could review goocanvas in source NEW? it's there since the rally and blocking some other packages to land, should be an easy enough one
[12:18] <seb128> it's basically a new version of goocanvas for gtk3 renamed
[12:19] <didrocks> seb128: pending to my list
[12:19] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[12:19] <didrocks> yw :)
[12:20] <dholbach> seb128, which other sources?
[12:20] <seb128> dholbach, libgdamm and goocanvasmm and the glom update
[12:20] <dholbach> seb128, you mean goocanvasmm and glom? no idea - I would have to look up if there are merge proposals for them
[12:21] <dholbach> I'm a bit hard pressed for time this and part of next week
[12:21] <seb128> dholbach, I don't think there are, we should find somebody to do it though ;-)
[12:21] <seb128> dholbach, yeah, I didn't mean you need to do it
[12:21] <dholbach> maybe a blog post or post to ubuntu-desktop?
[12:22] <seb128> dholbach, yeah, I will try to figure something out ;-)
[12:22] <dholbach> awesome
[13:23] <mdeslaur> mvo: mind if I upload a new software-properties?
[13:29] <mdeslaur> mvo: too late :)
[13:34] <mvo> mdeslaur: please do and thanks!
[13:34] <mdeslaur> mvo: cool, thanks
[13:47] <apw> i assume the unity upload is responsible for my machines desire to remove ubuntu-desktop and unity
[13:47] <apw> and ... didn't we decide building this stuff in a PPA made more sense as it always triggers this?
[13:49] <cjwatson> I doubt it, it failed to build on all architectures
[13:49] <mdeslaur> yeah, dist-upgrade wants to remove ubuntu-desktop and unity for me too
[13:50] <cjwatson> more likely nux
[13:51]  * cjwatson eyes didrocs
[13:51] <cjwatson> didrocks
[13:51] <didrocks> cjwatson: ABI break, unity will build as soon as bamf is published
[13:51] <seb128> it's being fixed
[13:51] <seb128> they run into new depreciations in the glib uploaded yesterday combined with -Werror
[13:52] <mdeslaur> \o/
[13:52] <seb128> but yeah, having a ppa we can pocket copy from would be nice
[13:52] <cjwatson> bamf is published now for all but armel, as far as the buildds are concerned
[13:52] <seb128> it would have been useful for the glib,gtk upload yesterday as well
[13:52] <cjwatson> so you can retry on !armel now
[13:54] <Beret> hmm
[13:54] <didrocks> we should really discuss about pocket copy yeah :)
[14:19] <Laney> There was discussion at UDS (also in #-motu yesterday) about using proposed for this.
[14:22] <roadmr> hello! How can my (Python) app get the user's default browser (as configured in system info -> default apps) to open a URL? what's the recommended way?
[14:22] <seb128> Laney, yeah, I was in that UDS session, that would work ;-)
[14:23] <Laney> providing LP lets you copy down from proposed to release
[14:24] <seb128> roadmr, try using the gio g_app_info_get_default_for_type () api I guess
[14:24] <seb128> or g_app_info_get_default_for_uri_scheme()
[14:24] <roadmr> seb128: awesome! I want to open a local .xml file, I'll give those two a try
[14:25] <cjwatson> roadmr: there's Gtk.show_uri() too
[14:26] <roadmr> cjwatson: thanks, another option to try!
[14:26] <cjwatson> >>> from gi.repository import Gtk, Gdk
[14:26] <cjwatson> >>> Gtk.show_uri(None, 'http://www.ubuntu.com/', Gdk.CURRENT_TIME)
[14:30] <zul> pitti: its updated packages that are needed in order to get the openstack experience working together in oneiric
[14:35] <GunnarHj> cjwatson: Hello, Colin!
[14:36] <GunnarHj> cjwatson: cjwatson: Currently, if I understand it correctly, the installer sometimes sets LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE in /etc/default/locale. Considering recently uploaded changes in accountsservice and language-selector, meaning that those env. variables are no longer used, the installer should better stop doing those settings.
[14:38] <cjwatson> GunnarHj: please file a bug, I'm going to need this written down permanently somewhere for the record
[14:39] <cjwatson> anyway I'm not convinced
[14:39] <cjwatson> the installer does that for reasons outside what language-selector happens to be doing today ...
[14:39] <cjwatson> (Incidentally, I wish this would stop changing.  It's disruptive.)
[14:39] <GunnarHj> cjwatson: I'll file a bug.
[14:41] <GunnarHj> cjwatson: It's about a conceptual (hopefully final) change. LANG is now considered to represent the language, so in cases where people wants some other locale for regional formats, the formats related LC_* variables are now set explicitly.
[14:41] <cjwatson> In other words, even if accountsservice et al are no longer consuming those variables, that's entirely irrelevant - they're part of the POSIX locale system and affect other applications.
[14:42] <cjwatson> It is wrong to rely entirely on accountsservice/language-selector for that, IMO.
[14:43] <cjwatson> The installer sets multiple variables when it's been given information it can't just cram into LANG.
[14:44] <GunnarHj> cjwatson: Yes, but what I'm suggesting is that it should rather set the formats related LC_* variables instead of LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE.
[14:45] <cjwatson> OK, IRC is too narrow for this conversation.
[14:46] <GunnarHj> cjwatson: I'll try to explain it on the bug.
[16:16] <barry> hello.  is anyone else noticing broken upgrades today on multiarch systems?
[16:55] <MacSlow> mvo, ping
[16:56] <mvo> pong
[17:05] <doko> chrisccoulson, is it expected that libxul-dev is missing from firefox-dev?
[17:05] <doko> ehh, libxul.pc
[17:06] <chrisccoulson> doko, yeah, nothing should be linking against our libxul. what needs it?
[17:06] <chrisccoulson> libxul.pc is specifically for embedders
[17:16] <micahg> pitti: they need to be tested
[17:22] <mhall119> stgraber: ping
[17:22] <stgraber> mhall119: pong
[17:23] <mhall119> stgraber: hey, can I talk to you for a minute about the ARB's rules?
[17:24] <stgraber> mhall119: sure
[17:24] <mhall119> stgraber: so getting 3rd party Unity lenses and scopes in software-center is a big deal
[17:25] <mhall119> but scope packages will need to depend on the lens package they work with
[17:25] <mhall119> I was told that we were going to get an exception for this, so a scope package in extras can depend on a lens package in extras
[17:25] <mhall119> has this become the official ARB policy yet?
[17:25] <stgraber> right, which they can only do if they are built from the same source or if the lens package is in the distro and not in extras
[17:26] <mhall119> so we want different people making the scopes
[17:26] <stgraber> the only exception we approved is for one source to build multiple packages and have them depend on each other, we still don't allow two different sources in extras to build packages depending on each other
[17:26] <mhall119> so they would be in independent source packages
[17:26] <stgraber> and don't plan on allowing that
[17:27] <mhall119> ok, that's someething we need to consider, otherwise we will lose a lot of the benefit of the dash
[17:27] <stgraber> the reason is, packages in extras need to be independent as we can pull them off at any time if they break
[17:28] <mhall119> stgraber: can you join ubuntu-app-devel?
[17:28] <stgraber> so I'd recommend whoever submits the lens to the ARB do the work of aggregating the scopes and send us that as a single source package building multiple binary packages
[17:28] <stgraber> mhall119: can you join ubuntu-arb? :)
[17:40] <bdrung> doko: openjdk-6 has still broken multiarch support
[17:41] <doko> chrisccoulson, icedtea-web
[17:42] <doko> bdrung, your level of detail is fantastic
[17:42] <chrisccoulson> doko, oh, icedtea-web should definitely be using mozilla-plugin.pc :)
[17:43] <doko> ok
[17:43] <bdrung> doko: comment #2 on bug #879167
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> i thought it was already though?
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> i must have been confused
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> sorry about that!
[17:43] <doko> yeah, a configure check still uses libxul
[17:43] <bdrung> doko: the order of the "grant codeBase [...]" lines matter
[17:44] <doko> bah
[19:13] <mdeslaur> seb128: you can poke tyhicks about your ecryptfs issue
[19:13] <slangasek> smb: hi, can you confirm that the ppa upstart still works for you with --log?  (The ppa package has --no-log as a default still)
[19:14] <morphis> anyone here knows if I can build packages for my ppa and armhf architecture?
[19:14] <morphis> (on launchpad)
[19:14] <seb128> mdeslaur, I will open a bug later, it's basically
[19:14] <seb128>  - apt-get source automake1.11
[19:14] <seb128>  cd automake1.11-1.11.1
[19:14] <seb128>  ./configure && make
[19:14] <seb128>  cd tests
[19:14] <seb128>  ./distdir.test
[19:14] <brendand> morphis - no
[19:14] <tyhicks> seb128: hi - I don't see any mentions of the problems in backscroll, so let me know what problems you're having
[19:15] <seb128> mdeslaur, tyhicks: ^
[19:15] <seb128> sorry i've to go for dinner
[19:15] <morphis> brendand: so I have to build locally with qemu until I have a native board
[19:15] <mdeslaur> seb128: thanks
[19:15] <seb128> same issue on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/automake1.11_1.11.2.orig.tar.bz2
[19:15]  * tyhicks gives it a go
[19:15] <seb128> it fails to rm empty file in the dist dir
[19:15] <seb128> bbl
[19:15] <brendand> morphis, i guess so
[19:16] <brendand> morphis - #ubuntu-arm is a good channel for ARM questions too
[19:16] <brendand> morphis, but i know you can't do armhf builds in a ppa
[19:16] <morphis> brendand: #ubuntu-arm is a very good idea
[19:17] <brendand> morphis, for that matter - can you do armel builds?
[19:17] <morphis> brendand: hm, I coming from OpenEmbedded and currently trying to find out how I can do embedded development with debian/ubuntu
[19:18] <morphis> brendand: I didn't tried yet
[19:18] <morphis> brendand: I am just trying to find out all relevant details before I start with the real stuff
[19:33] <tyhicks> seb128: I've subscribed you to bug 926292
[19:34] <tyhicks> seb128: I'm heading out, but I'll try to get some time to chase down the problem this weekend
[19:50] <seb128> tyhicks, thanks
[20:44] <andrejz> hello! any unity developers out there?
[20:44] <andrejz> i hae a question about new string in unity 5.2
[20:51] <hallyn> @pilot in
[20:59] <ScottK> andrejz: I think #ubuntu-unity or #ubuntu-desktop would be better (I don't recall for sure).
[21:00] <andrejz> ok thanks
[21:08] <bladernr_> Hey, can anyone answer a quick question about apport and /var/crash... when a crash dump is created and put into /var/crash, I've noticed that there's also a hidden lock file in /var/crash.  What creates that and why?
[21:10] <bladernr_> nm... found an answer in apport changelog
[21:20] <hallyn> hi everyone - I've tested and verified (and 'Approved') https://code.launchpad.net/~jtaylor/ubuntu/oneiric/subversion/sasl-crash-881862/+merge/85228 .  I don't have the rights to actually upload it.  Is someone around who can finish that off?
[21:59] <hallyn> roaksoax: ^
[22:56] <dobey> ayone around?
[22:56] <dobey> who should i subscribe to a bug to upload a new source package (which replaces an existing source)?
[23:00] <jtaylor> hallyn: micahg wanted to do that soonish
[23:00] <jtaylor> thanks for testing ig
[23:00] <jtaylor> it
[23:01] <hallyn> dobey: hi, i think you can subscribe "ubuntu-sponsors"
[23:01] <dobey> hallyn: thanks
[23:02] <hallyn> jtaylor: ok (np)  I just don't have the rights to actually upload it to the archive, or i'd finish it up right now
[23:03] <jtaylor> me neither, and for some reason sponsors don't like me, I have 3 of the top 9 oldest things in the queue :(
[23:07] <hallyn> jtaylor: well you scare me with the 'multiarch' one - that's nothing personal, i'm just a wuss :)
[23:07] <jtaylor> yes thats an uglyone :/
[23:07] <hallyn> jtaylor: tbh i was hoping stgraber or slangasek would look at that one.  but maybe i should man up...
[23:30] <hallyn> jtaylor: so with the multiarch one - you say oneiric has been patched to work around it.  precise's too?  so you actually want that merged into lp:ubuntu/natty/python-numpy (not lp:ubuntu/python-numpy)?  Or am i misreading?
[23:32] <jtaylor> no I actually wanted a fix in oneiric but it was to late in the cycle
[23:32] <jtaylor> so instead the rdepends where patched
[23:32] <jtaylor> this is now prettymuch to fix it for non packaged stuff
[23:32] <jtaylor> though now its pretty much as late as it was when I wanted it in oneiric :/
[23:33] <slangasek> we're still before ff
[23:34] <jtaylor> its noot even a new feature just a minimal (ugly) workaround
[23:34] <slangasek> my point is that it's not currently late at all
[23:35] <hallyn> jtaylor: I'm wondering if something more like https://launchpadlibrarian.net/78315456/libxaw-1.0.9.multiarch.diff could be done (to make it - i hope - more standard - i don't judge ugliness when it comes to x stuff)
[23:35] <hallyn> i.e. --libdir=\$${prefix}/lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) passed to confgure in debian/rules
[23:36] <jtaylor> its the issue of the buildsystem numpy *provides* for other stuff
[23:36] <cjwatson> if any MIR team folks are still around, debtags and java-atk-wrapper are currently on the list for promotion to main; I've seen at least debtags breaking image builds and java-atk-wrapper looks like a possibility for that too
[23:36] <hallyn> ah
[23:36] <cjwatson> I'd like not to leave image builds broken over the weekend
[23:36] <jtaylor> so it must now the triplet of the host its used on not where numpy wasy built on
[23:36] <jtaylor> s/now/know/
[23:37] <slangasek> java-atk-wrapper is breaking builds already, yes
[23:37] <slangasek> jdstrand: ^^ are you up for some MIRs?
[23:37] <cjwatson> the other three source promotions look like they can wait
[23:37] <slangasek> I had perhaps wrongly assumed that since doko did the upload that pulled java-atk-wrapper in, and he has strong opinions about prepromotions, he might have gotten the MIR done first ;)
[23:38] <jdstrand> slangasek: I have about 10 in my queue assigned to me. I was dealing with some important updates today. I won't get to them until monday
[23:38] <cjwatson> *shocked face*
[23:38] <jdstrand> slangasek: if you want to assign it to me-- I have an appt in a few minutes
[23:38] <slangasek> I actually don't see an MIR open for java-atk-wrapper
[23:38] <slangasek> perhaps it's already marked closed?
[23:38] <cjwatson> neither have bugs open according to component-mismatches
[23:39] <hallyn> jtaylor: I'm trying to use your "ldd -r /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kiva/agg/_plat_support.so" to verify it's broken, but i don't get the break.  I'm sorry I'm being dense, but is there any other quick recipe I can use to verify?
[23:39] <cjwatson> oh, wait, java-atk-wrapper just vanished from c-m
[23:39] <jtaylor> hallyn: this library is from which package?
[23:39] <cjwatson> moving targets FTW
[23:40] <jtaylor> hallyn: version, the one in oneiric and precise have been fixed
[23:40] <jtaylor> hallyn: you have to compile the natty package on oneiric to get the broken version
[23:40] <cjwatson> so it's just debtags
[23:40] <hallyn> jtaylor: oh *that*'s what you were saying.
[23:40] <slangasek> right, bug #849729 was the MIR for j-a-w
[23:40] <hallyn> jtaylor: off to try again
[23:41] <jtaylor> hallyn: with this numpy the workaround applied to enable is not necessary anymore
[23:41] <jtaylor> hallyn: it will then find the multiarched libraries and link them correctly
[23:42] <hallyn> jtaylor: thanks, got it.  fetching to build...
[23:42] <slangasek> cjwatson: maybe it's better to push a s-c that drops debtags for now?
[23:43] <cjwatson> dunno - debtags was in main in hardy
[23:43] <slangasek> oh
[23:43] <slangasek> then hmm
[23:43] <cjwatson> which is a while back,but
[23:43] <cjwatson> due to adept-common
[23:43] <hallyn> jinkeys: bzr just segfaulted while trying that merge
[23:44]  * cjwatson looks at what s-c is doing
[23:44]  * slangasek teaches ureadahead about /run
[23:44] <cjwatson> wuh, I thought I'd done that
[23:45] <cjwatson> bah, changed locally 2011-10-22, never committed :-(
[23:45] <cjwatson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/828250/
[23:45]  * slangasek nods
[23:46] <cjwatson> s-c actually copes if debtags is missing - it's in a try/except
[23:46] <slangasek> strangely, my /var/log/upstart/ureadahead.log complains about lots of symlinks that seem to be from under proc... I wonder if those should be filtered out at an earlier stage
[23:47] <cjwatson> though it looks like a fairly deliberate addition
[23:47] <cjwatson> by mvo
[23:47]  * slangasek nods
[23:47] <cjwatson> definite feature work here
[23:48] <slangasek> hah, there's an interesting question.  should ureadahead force a reprofile when the only package that's changing under /etc/init is itself?
[23:48] <slangasek> (ureadahead doesn't reprofile on upgrade, because triggers don't apply to self->package)
[23:49] <cjwatson> mm, postinst configure is usually meant to be a superset of postinst triggered, I believe
[23:50] <cjwatson> I think it should - omitting /run from the pack is a good example of something that should cause reprofiling
[23:50] <cjwatson> or it might even change its pack format
[23:50]  * slangasek nods


[03:54] <paul_> is UBANTU going to be ported to the CDMA gnex toro?
[06:31] <dholbach> JoseeAntonioR, did you ping the folks in #canonical-sysadmin about the ticket?
[06:32] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: yep, they said they're waiting the report from the security guys
[06:33] <dholbach> JoseeAntonioR, I think most of them are in American time zones: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+members#active
[06:34] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: actually, all of them
[06:35] <dholbach> dunno if anyone of them works crazy hours
[06:36] <JoseeAntonioR> I don't think so, but well
[06:36] <JoseeAntonioR> I was wondering if they can just give the approval, as it's written by Wordpress (I don't think there's something that will break machines in there)
[06:38] <dholbach> I'm not sure it's that easy - there's a lot of trust-worthy organisations who write code, still they ship code which is vulnerable
[06:38] <JoseeAntonioR> hmm, right, then it'll just be a matter of waiting
[06:38] <dholbach> maybe it's worth pinging them again
[06:39] <JoseeAntonioR> will try right now, let's just hope for the best
[06:39] <dholbach> *cross fingers*
[06:41] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: we did get a quick sanity check!
[06:41] <JoseeAntonioR> just checked the ticket
[09:41] <vikewoods> hello everyone , has anyone tried to install ubuntu os on galaxy s 2 ?
[09:58] <GuidoPallemans> #ubuntu-phone
[10:13] <vikewoods> thx )
[10:48] <cha0stein1066> i have a comment very important as a full ubuntu  user and developer .WHY ARE YOU MAKING UBUNTU LESS CONTROLLED BY THE END USER ? and what about the security monitoring on PERSONAL INFORMATION
[10:58] <aaaaaaa> .
[11:33] <Nikez> Will the sources be available today?
[12:19] <dank101> Hey
[12:53] <fasfasf> hi
[13:55] <guest_____> is source available for ubuntu touch?
[14:03] <dank101> guest_____, in 1 hour it will
[14:03] <dank101> shut up and wait
[14:27] <nikisa> what if my phone doesn't support cyanogen mod
[14:27] <nikisa> can it run UBUNTU OS?
[14:30] <Jan> Hello :D
[14:31] <M40> I hope to see a version of Ubuntu Touch for Samsung S I9100 :)
[14:31] <FaDev> HI there
[14:31] <Darkey> hey everyone
[14:34] <riccardo96> hello everyone!
[14:35] <riccardo96> Hey, Are there anyone?
[14:35] <aartist> riccardo96: hi
[14:37] <bradleyd> yes
[14:39] <lukw> yes
[14:39] <Euro> yes
[14:39] <raduk> hi pps
[14:40] <bradleyd_> hello raduk
[14:40] <raduk> what time does it start? 1500
[14:40] <Euro> yes, UTC
[14:40] <_polto_> hi
[14:40] <raduk> ok thanks
[14:40] <Captain_> yuppers
[14:40] <Saufiwahab> Greeting.. im from malaysia =)
[14:41] <Captain_> where did fluffy hair guy go?
[14:41] <_polto_> I would like to test ubuntu-phone on my Samsung Galaxy Note 1, then will it be possible to compile Ubuntu-phone from sources as the Free Software promise ? ;)
[14:42] <nikisa> hey guys, my phone doesnt support cyanogen mod, can i build UBUNTU OS based on a stock or a custom roms avvailble for my phone?
[14:42] <nikisa> is it possible?
[14:42] <Captain_> QUESTION: What devices do you currently support?
[14:43] <oudai> god how much ubuntu made the world bitter place
[14:43] <Captain_> ... I have a feeling this is the wrong channel...
[14:44] <hrw> Captain_: it is listed on page already. Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4/7/10
[14:44] <bradleyd_> 15 more minutes
[14:44] <Captain_> thanks hrw
[14:44] <nikisa> waiting for hangout >_<
[14:45] <wladek> Will dual boot will be available when I install Ubuntu OS? To boot android and ubuntu? sorry, if question was already answered.
[14:50] <nikisa> 9 minutes to go
[14:50] <tondin> yes!
[14:50] <mibofra> hi :)
[14:50] <hcbt> hi all
[14:50] <ali1234> is this the right channel to ask questions, when it starts?
[14:50] <hcbt> ali1234: yes
[14:50] <mibofra> strange thing:Service Temporarily Unavailable
[14:50] <mibofra> on ubuntuonair.com
[14:50] <fabiux> yeah
[14:51] <hcbt> strange, works for me
[14:53] <Dettymac> I see you
[14:53] <mcrac> whats up?
[14:54] <nikisa> 5 minutes :P
[14:54] <mibofra> ok now it's ok :))
[14:55] <hcbt> anyone using touch preview?
[14:55] <aartist> I see(k) you.
[14:55] <Pulkit> what are the minimum requirements to run ubuntu on phone?
[14:56] <nikisa> @Pulkit 1 gig cortex a9 , 512 ram, multi touch is minimum
[14:57] <aartist> Which type of phone, you can run ubuntu on ?
[14:58] <_polto_> then will it be possible to compile Ubuntu-phone from sources as the Free Software promise ? ;) I have not seen any announce about the sources availability.
[14:58] <dholbach> ubuntuonair.com is updated, some of you might have to reload if the video does not say "Ubuntu Touch something"
[14:58] <Tuxkalle> aartist images for the nexus devices now
[14:58] <yonathaniel> wheres the stream?
[14:58] <hcbt> aartist: galaxy nexus and nexus 4 for now
[14:58] <GuidoPallemans> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MOvGullZwcw
[14:58] <dholbach> starts in 2m
[14:58] <yonathaniel> ach
[14:59] <nikisa> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MOvGullZwcw
[14:59] <yonathaniel> seems a lot of key Ubuntu devs are native English speakers
[14:59] <hcbt> this will be interesting
[14:59] <Dettymac> Ubuntu TV was Announced over a year ago,  are there any TV's out yet?
[14:59] <nikisa> 10
[14:59] <nikisa> 9
[14:59] <nikisa> 8
[14:59] <nikisa> 7
[14:59] <nikisa> 6
[14:59] <nikisa> 5
[14:59] <nikisa> 4
[14:59] <nikisa> 2
[14:59] <starks> sup
[14:59] <nikisa> 1
[14:59] <nikisa> `
[15:00] <yonathaniel> Ubuntu TV didn't quite break
[15:00] <yonathaniel> through I mean
[15:00] <hcbt> and
[15:00] <hcbt> nothing
[15:00] <Namidairo> you know they dont have to start on the dot right
[15:00] <Namidairo> :)
[15:00] <mibofra> the 15:00 UTC :))
[15:00] <nikisa> :D
[15:00] <nikisa> yayy!!
[15:00] <corden> is anybody doing build for Galaxy S2?
[15:00] <misterio> just wait, guys
[15:00] <_hamzux_> :)
[15:01] <Euro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvGullZwcw&feature=plcp
[15:01] <hcbt> corden: we need source code first
[15:01] <Euro> youube livestream
[15:01] <ctharam> Has it started?
[15:01] <Namidairo> corden: I saw someone port it to d2vzw earlier
[15:01] <Euro> no
[15:01] <Namidairo> hcbt: we already have source
[15:01] <nikisa> can UBuntu os run on phone which doesn't support cyanogen?
[15:01] <hcbt> Namidairo: and where it is?
[15:01] <corden> thanks for the reply guys.
[15:01] <starks> d2vzw reporting in
[15:01] <dholbach> here we go!
[15:01] <Namidairo> phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[15:01] <Euro> started
[15:01] <nikisa> it is live
[15:02] <nikisa> (Y)
[15:02] <starks> www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvGullZwcw
[15:02] <roadkill_> yee live
[15:02] <hcbt> finnaly
[15:02] <smartboyhw> YAY
[15:02] <roadkill_> im wait soo long for this
[15:02] <Pulkit> will ubuntu on phone use debian packages ?
[15:02] <dank101> STARTING
[15:02] <corden> by the way what's the channel for ubuntu touch apps development? just want to ask what's the recommended language to use.... qml + javascript or c++
[15:04] <dank101> Holy god so many people
[15:04] <usererror_> :-)
[15:04] <Namidairo> tell ricardo to get in the channel
[15:04] <shane__> why are we here now?
[15:04] <smartboyhw> shane__: Ubuntu porting On Air session
[15:04] <Euro> corden: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide
[15:04] <yonathaniel> its live unless you noticed
[15:04] <yonathaniel> I had to refresh
[15:04] <Pulkit> will ubuntu on phone use debian packages or there would be some alteration?
[15:04] <shane__> smartboyhw: what is that?
[15:05] <corden> thanks Euro
[15:05] <hcbt> smartboyhw: omg, it's you mate
[15:05] <smartboyhw> hcbt, who are you?
[15:05] <aartist> I see only 2 guys.
[15:06] <hcbt> smartboyhw: Humans Can't Be Trusted, remembar?
[15:06] <smartboyhw> hcbt, ah lol
[15:06] <starks> lol
[15:06] <smartboyhw> WT?
[15:06] <Euro> hoho
[15:06] <dank101> LOL derp
[15:06] <benkaiser> oh noes
[15:06] <Namidairo> HERP
[15:06] <smartboyhw> Ah it went back:P
[15:06] <netcurli> not again those hangout problems
[15:06] <dholbach> if you have questions, please prefix them with QUESTION:
[15:07] <bobby_> when would ubuntu for phones be launched??
[15:07] <dank101> IT HAS YOU NOOB
[15:07] <manuba> october wasn't it?
[15:07] <Namidairo> bobby_: october eta
[15:07] <nikisa> lol at that question :D
[15:07] <shane__> smartboyhw: http://s1164.beta.photobucket.com/user/shanerbaner82/media/ubuntuerror.png.html
[15:07] <vahidlazio> hi
[15:07] <smartboyhw> shane__: I think you need to wait.
[15:07] <shane__> ok
[15:08] <smartboyhw> QUESTION: Why is the code download so slow?
[15:08] <smartboyhw> LOL
[15:08] <aartist> what's going on in video?
[15:08] <silent_warrior> shut up and take the questions :)
[15:08] <Namidairo> general backround
[15:08] <Namidairo> *backgroun
[15:08] <yonathaniel> these guys are not native English speakers but I would have thought they are
[15:08] <dank101> hey
[15:08] <dank101> back XD
[15:08] <yonathaniel> from how they talk
[15:08] <ogra_> yonathaniel, canonical employees come from all over the world
[15:09] <dank101> Yeah
[15:09] <Pulkit> QUESTION: is ubunutu on phone going to use debian packages or something else?
[15:09] <ogra_> yonathaniel, we all work from home
[15:09] <shane__> smartboyhw: ok, waiting
[15:09] <ogra_> Pulkit, it already uses debian packages :)
[15:09] <yonathaniel> ogra_: Yeah but because they speak English so well I thought they are native
[15:09] <popey> yonathaniel: they are also both very nice people, just like everyone else who works for Canonical ;)
[15:09] <starks> touch is so slow and clunky
[15:09] <dank101> I love it!
[15:10] <ptl> has the hangout started?
[15:10] <silent_warrior> wroooooonggg
[15:10] <manuba> yes
[15:10] <dank101> YES
[15:10] <smartboyhw> ptl, yeah
[15:10] <shane__> where is the hangout? got a linkl?
[15:10] <dank101> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MOvGullZwcw#!
[15:10] <manuba> ..
[15:10] <starks> i've never felt so bad putting a demo on the galaxy s3
[15:10] <dank101> ya newb
[15:10] <ptl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvGullZwcw
[15:10] <smartboyhw> shane__: ubuntuonair.com
[15:10] <nagu> yep its really nice to keep ubuntu in tablets and phone..
[15:10] <nagu> i totally like docking :)
[15:11] <nikisa> it is a revolution.
[15:11] <dank101> 3 ports before the port-a-thon began
[15:11] <starks> we need mobile data, cdma, and general settings menus
[15:11] <dank101> Use caps for requests
[15:11] <yonathaniel> But you don't get normal Ubuntu applications in Ubuntu touch?
[15:11] <ogra_> yonathaniel, nope, its all OML
[15:11] <ogra_> QML
[15:11] <benkaiser> If it had mobile data and wifi hotspot it would become my daily driver (my phone IS my Internet connection)
[15:11] <dank101> *QML
[15:11] <ogra_> and HTML5
[15:12] <yonathaniel> whoa
[15:12] <ogra_> theer will be the dock mode so that your tabelt/phone can run a fulkl desktop when docked
[15:12] <freech> Bad idea : Put your bright windows behind you :-)
[15:12] <blu422> got a non-youtube link? im on restricted network access and they dont allow youtube
[15:12] <yonathaniel> ogra_: that would be cool
[15:12] <dank101> Sorry but no
[15:12] <ogra_> tahts the plan :)
[15:13] <ptl> <- Claudio Sampaio on the hangout, just asked a question
[15:13] <nagu> i cant update my qt to alpha :( any help ??
[15:13] <Euro> blu422:  http://ubuntuonair.com/
[15:13] <starks> none of the guys are listening to the chan are they?
[15:13] <smartboyhw> dholbach, it is really slow
[15:13] <starks> a repo sync took 5 hours our something
[15:13] <pat> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159832 - galaxy nexus cdma
[15:14] <smartboyhw> 10 times slower than Android code:P
[15:14] <nikisa> QUESTION: can Ubuntu OS be ported to a device which doesn't support Cyanogen Mod yet , or i have interpreted this thing wrong O.o ??
[15:14] <ogra_> smartboyhw, download of the images or of the code ?
[15:14] <smartboyhw> ogra_, code
[15:14] <smartboyhw> Not images
[15:14] <ogra_> aha
[15:14] <blu422> Euro: thats blocked as well ugh.
[15:14] <starks> yay rsalveti is here
[15:14] <rsalveti> \o/
[15:14] <starks> did you sleep well?
[15:15] <Euro> if they block all youtube stuff you cant watch it blu422
[15:15] <benkaiser> QUESTION: is this the porting hangout? or a Q&A?
[15:15] <dank101> porting
[15:15] <Cyanogen101> Hi guys
[15:15] <dank101> hi
[15:15] <smartboyhw> benkaiser, both I think
[15:15] <Cyanogen101> 'planning on building for Samsung S 2
[15:15] <blu422> Euro: thanks anyways
[15:15] <smartboyhw> Cyanogen101, :)
[15:15] <_hamzux_> Question: do you have plans to support low-price devices (i.e. acer b1-a71 etc)?
[15:16] <ogra_> Cyanogen101, ++ i have a spare one here waiting for a port :)
[15:16] <dholbach> feel free to ask all your questions, please prefix with QUESTION: though
[15:16] <Cyanogen101> here is a link to my thread
[15:16] <Cyanogen101> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38331504&posted=1#post38331504
[15:16] <Namidairo> ugh
[15:16] <Cyanogen101> Basically i just do everything on This page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[15:16] <_hamzux_> Question: is is technically possible to have a dual-boot on a tablet?
[15:17] <nagu> Question :: I cant update my qt to alpha.. any help???
[15:17] <smartboyhw> Cyanogen101, basically yes
[15:17] <Ajay_> Hi Every one....
[15:17] <Namidairo> he said maguro.
[15:17] <Cyanogen101> my DVD drive is fucked up how can i install ubuntu? im using a WUBI version?
[15:17] <ogra_> Cyanogen101, or a VM
[15:17] <smartboyhw> Cyanogen101, use USBs
[15:18] <ogra_> or USB yeah
[15:18] <ali1234> QUESTION: What is breakfast?
[15:18] <Ajay_> I have a question,  which device(tablet) support ubuntu ?? how may I know which may support or which not??
[15:18] <ogra_> ali1234, a meal, usually in the morning :)
[15:18] <Ursinha> Ajay_, it's in the wiki page
[15:18] <Ursinha> lol
[15:18] <Cyanogen101> ok
[15:18] <Namidairo> ali1234: see the cm wiki aboot that
[15:18] <nagu> Orga.. I cant update qt to alpha.. any help or workaround??
[15:18] <derp> QUESTION: When is the sources being released? :)
[15:19] <Cyanogen101> imma start building (fingers crossed)
[15:19] <ogra_> ali1234, not to be mixed up with brunch which happens 30min after breakfast
[15:19] <Namidairo> derp: yesterday
[15:19] <Cyanogen101> ill be back
[15:19] <Ursinha> derp, they are already there, since yesterday :)
[15:19] <dank101> nuuu
[15:19] <derp> Those aren't the full sources.. Or are they? :)
[15:19] <Namidairo> NOOO
[15:19] <Euro> man
[15:19] <ogra_> whopps, the hangout broke
[15:19] <dank101> DANMIT
[15:19] <Euro> blackout
[15:19] <smartboyhw> dholbach, is there is problem with the Hangouts today!!?!?!?!
[15:19] <Taladond> =/
[15:19] <nikisa> back again
[15:19] <dank101> YAY
[15:19] <Namidairo> you broke it starks
[15:20] <hcbt> smartboyhw: it uses youtube now so...
[15:20] <behmann> ha, perhaps Hangout should be running on AWS :P
[15:20] <starks> QUESTION: how many ports have you guys spotted? i see d2vzw, toroplus, and gnote 2
[15:20] <smartboyhw> hcbt, yeah
[15:20] <ogra_> daily images will come early next week
[15:20] <starks> daily isn't daily?
[15:20] <Namidairo> tldr: magic.
[15:20] <ogra_> starks, ?
[15:21] <Dettymac> Question: Any JAMS or events in Washington DC that Canonical will be attending/hosting
[15:21] <starks> ogra_, ports ahead of the porting guide
[15:21] <derp> nightlies :D
[15:21] <ogra_> starks, i was referring to the arches we already support
[15:21] <ogra_> starks, currently there is only the release yet, we will start püroviding daily builds nbext week
[15:22] <ogra_> starks, not sure what the plan is for additional arches
[15:22] <ptl> graphical applications which do not use the canonical API for mobile simply won't work?
[15:22] <ogra_> right
[15:22] <ogra_> they will work later once the desktop dock mode is there
[15:22] <ptl> ok
[15:23] <ptl> has anyone ported a terminal emulator for it?
[15:23] <ogra_> (in docked state then indeed)
[15:23] <ogra_> i saw some in the works on G+
[15:23] <ptl> k...
[15:23] <starks> ogra_, arches and platforms are different. if i want an x86 ubuntu touch, that would be a razr i issue
[15:23] <starks> platforms are non-nexus phones already running touch
[15:23] <ptl> and it won't use X at all? I see that it is using Android's graphical system, at least I think it is
[15:23] <ogra_> starks, in my statement read arches as ports :)
[15:24] <Tassadar> QUESTION: do you accept patches also to CM base system, specifically to grouper's kernel?
[15:24] <starks> then again, razr anything won't run ubunt lol
[15:24] <starks> damn motorola
[15:24] <ogra_> starks, armhf would be an arch ... armhf+nexus7 would be a subarch (or in your terms a port)
[15:24] <starks> armhf+d2vzw works great
[15:24] <ogra_> good to hear
[15:24] <starks> when it works
[15:25] <starks> swiping is frustrating
[15:25] <andreipot> maybe if the new motorola x would be the next Nexus
[15:25] <starks> motorola needs to prove they are serious about not using encrypted bootloaders
[15:25] <wladek> QUESTION: will be support for HP touchpad?
[15:26] <Namidairo> tenderloin?
[15:26] <silent_warrior> Question:Is it posssible to use the tablet UI on the desktop
[15:26] <vrubium> question: what is the display manager running on ubuntu touch? x, wayland custom?
[15:26] <starks> breakfeast, lunch, and dinner. rent is too damn high
[15:26] <mibofra> so, bye people :))
[15:26] <Namidairo> 10.1 is coming to tenderloin soonish, and should be portable
[15:26] <keyhey> when can we see the preview on the SGH-I727 Skyrocket ?
[15:26] <FreeDesire> will older devices like nexus one and htc desire be supported as they run unoffical builds on cm10 already
[15:27] <fanys> +vrubium : SurfaceFlinger is the DM on Ubuntu Touch
[15:27] <Namidairo> arm6 nein
[15:27] <Namidairo> ccache
[15:27] <ptl> FreeDesire: judging from the hardware requirements I would say they would run it 'barely' if it is ported at all
[15:27] <ogra_> FreeDesire, as long as it matches the HW specs
[15:28] <starks> question: there was some secrecy regarding the touch display manager/server, everyone assumed a wayland fork, what happened?
[15:28] <starks> i missed vrubium's q lol
[15:28] <repollo> hi everyone
[15:28] <mibofra> I thought the live was finished :D
[15:28] <ptl> starks's question is great, curious also
[15:28] <hcbt> QUESTION: so what kernel touch preview uses? linux or android?
[15:29] <ogra_> android
[15:29] <starks> ptl, i suspect unity display server :P
[15:29] <ogra_> hcbt, the whole low level is android
[15:29] <ptl> hcbt: I can show you some unames
[15:29] <ptl> root@nexus4:~# uname -a
[15:29] <ptl> Linux nexus4 3.4.0-perf-g85f2fed #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 21 04:34:41 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[15:29] <starks> hcbt, linux is linux
[15:29] <smartboyhw> hcbt, of course linux + CM-ed Android
[15:29] <Namidairo> hcbt: but those are both technically linux kernels...
[15:29] <ogra_> (kernel, hardware acces layer)
[15:29] <hcbt> but uper level?
[15:29] <starks> whatever kernel your device can use
[15:29] <ogra_> hcbt, ubuntu
[15:29] <ptl> [12:29] [3647] [patola@nexus7 patola]% uname -a
[15:29] <ptl> Linux nexus7 3.1.10-g756380d #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 21 04:54:00 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Namidairo, technically Android isn't a kernel
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Linux is one
[15:30] <hcbt> so it's logicaly ubuntu on android kernel
[15:30] <fanys> Q: will be possible to flash GAPS(Play Store for example) to Ubuntu Touch?
[15:30] <Tramvai> What is the MAIN advatage of Ubuntu Phone over other devices (iOS/Android)?
[15:30] <makaveli35> How many are you in devlopping UBUNTU ?
[15:30] <ogra_> hcbt, its a minimal android running a container in which an ubuntu runs
[15:30] <vrubium> QUESTION: what is the display server running on ubuntu touch? x, wayland custom?
[15:30] <smartboyhw> makaveli35, is that a question to the guys in the Hangout or?
[15:30] <ogra_> vrubium, currently surfaceflinger
[15:30] <Namidairo> when they say kernel i think android/system/kernel/asus/grouper
[15:30] <nagu> Question : how can install ubuntu on nexus with dual boot support??
[15:30] <fanys> i said it vrubium :)
[15:30] <makaveli35> Yes
[15:31] <ogra_> vrubium, that will likely change over time
[15:31] <Sid_Payton> QUESTION: What did David Planella refer to when he posted that we could accpect some new surprise awesomeness in this HangOut? ;-) I'm intruiged
[15:31] <keyhey> when can we see the os for other android phones ? like the S2 and S3
[15:31] <ogra_> keyhey, once someone proted it
[15:31] <Aturik> Tramvai, the biggest Advantage is the perfect multitasking and the great Design :)
[15:31] <vrubium> fanys: sorry, missed the answer
[15:31] <Namidairo> a new challenger has appeared
[15:31] <starks> keyhey, which s3?
[15:31] <Namidairo> or at least another hangout participant
[15:31] <andreipot> the s3 has been ported
[15:31] <Sid_Payton> @keyhey S3 is allready done. just check omgubuntu
[15:32] <Tramvai> :)
[15:32] <jochenh> QUESTION: When a emulator for ubuntu desktop will be available?
[15:32] <shane__> smartboyhw: are you there?
[15:32] <Namidairo> d2vzw is done afaik
[15:32] <smartboyhw> shane__: Hey yas
 i have the skyrocket s2 though
[15:32] <starks> hahahaha that's my phone on omg
[15:32] <shane__> so, i waited and the device powered off and rebooted through google screen and is now a black screen for about 10 minutes....
[15:33] <yonathaniel> I have an Asus Transformer
[15:33] <cyanogen101> Ok, stuck
[15:33] <shane__> smartboyhw: so, i waited and the device powered off and rebooted through google screen and is now a black screen for about 10 minutes....
[15:33] <ptl> Question: What high-level APIs work under surfaceflinger now? QT, GTK+, EFL, modified versions of them?
[15:33] <cyanogen101> Stuck
[15:33] <ptl> *over surfaceflinger
[15:33] <smartboyhw> shane__, whoa!?
[15:33] <cyanogen101> phablet-dev-bootstrap -v [device codena  mes] [target_directory]
[15:33] <shane__> smartboyhw: any ideas?
[15:33] <benkaiser> OMG Note 1!!!! Awesome!
[15:33] <Namidairo> lol the tf101
[15:33] <smartboyhw> cyanogen101, you have to edit the phablet-dev-bootstrap -v I think
[15:33] <_hamzux_> Question: to submit apps to Ubuntu Touch are you going to keep PPAs + Ubuntu Software Center or have another  "market" concept?
 than you would have to wait a bit more or try it yourself with the new manual Canonical released today
[15:33] <cyanogen101> Help with "phablet-dev-bootstrap -v [device codena  mes] [target_directory]" what i put in for samsung s 2?
[15:33] <shane__> smartboyhw: i can flash custom rom and try again?
[15:34] <benkaiser> And the tf101! those are my two devices
[15:34] <Ursinha> yay, my tablet :D
[15:34] <keyhey> if i knew more about porting id get it for the s2 but idk anything about port
[15:34]  * ogra_ hugs Ursinha
[15:34] <konradmb> Question: Any ARMv6 support plans?
[15:34] <ogra_> konradmb, no
[15:34] <Ursinha> I even made my first contribution to the project ^^ :)
[15:34] <ogra_> konradmb, ubuntu itself has no support for v6 anymore
[15:34] <Namidairo> rsalveti: the tf101 cm-10.1 stuff is still in gerrit atm
[15:34] <smartboyhw> shane__, try to use a official ROM
[15:34]  * Ursinha hugs ogra_ back
[15:34] <ogra_> :)
[15:34] <AlanBell> QUESTION: why did you pick about the only tablets and phones in the world that can't be purchased on Amazon with an affiliate link through the shopping lens?
[15:34] <yonathaniel> contributing seems like a pain in the butt
[15:35] <ali1234> AlanBell: because they don't need exploits to unlock them
[15:35] <smartboyhw> AlanBell, :)
[15:35] <Ursinha> yonathaniel, it's not :) I contributed already
[15:35] <pat> QUESTION: what would it take to get the cdma radio working for toroplus?
[15:35] <shane__> smartboyhw: the problem is the official is 4.2.2 which has some security issue and cannot adb communicate on 4.2.2, cant find a 4.2.0 image anywhere
[15:35] <smartboyhw> shane__, uh.....
[15:36] <JoseeAntonioR> That's wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[15:36] <ogra_> shane__, make sure to have the very latest fastboot binary
[15:36] <keyhey> wheres the link for the stuff to get the os on the s3 ?
[15:36] <Ursinha> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[15:36] <zandgreen> Question: will it be possible to apply alternative components, like a window manager?
[15:36] <ogra_> shane__, the one in the ubuntu archive definitely works with 4.2.2
[15:36] <ogra_> (the latest one)
[15:36] <mentos> QUESTION: how is battery life with the nexus phone and in general?
[15:37] <shane__> ogra_: but my desktop cant communicate with adb
[15:37] <shane__> on 4.2.2
[15:37] <Namidairo> lol
[15:38] <Namidairo> the tf101 is still in the porting guide
[15:38] <ptl> AlanBell: what are you referring to? I bought my Nexus7 this way
[15:38] <Tramvai> Wat
[15:38] <keyhey> is anyone working on a port for the galaxy s2 ? any version
[15:38] <Namidairo> lol
[15:39] <Namidairo> this hangout, so reliable
[15:39] <starks> oh well
[15:39] <yonathaniel> keyhey: he just showed the s2 running ubuntu touch
[15:39] <onlychevys1> I'm working on gs2 tmobile
[15:39] <rsalveti> google technology
[15:39] <benkaiser> hmmm contemplating trying to port it for the N7000 -  Galaxy Note 1
[15:39] <rsalveti> keeps crashing
[15:39] <yonathaniel> keyhey: or not, I remember wrong :
[15:40] <starks> they skipped the display server questions
[15:40] <starks> wtf
[15:40] <zlx_> I feel like everyone looking for ports should head over to XNA
[15:40] <starks> why so secret?
[15:40] <efouladi> I'm working on samsung galaxy s i9000 port
[15:40] <tilal6991> I've got a Xperia T up and running
[15:40] <Ursinha> efouladi, I love you for that :)
[15:40] <fuss132> sources download sooo slow :D
[15:40] <pad4651> will davlik eventually be included?
[15:40] <roadkill_> i cant wait for s2
[15:40] <tilal6991> And I know of a G300 port which is up
[15:40] <Ursinha> efouladi, but the hardware is a bit old to run it, isn't it?
[15:40] <starks> rsalveti, are you guys hiding something?
[15:40] <Namidairo> it took all of 2 minutes to get the thing to build for the tf201
[15:41] <keyhey> ive got it working on my nexus 7 and 10 but ive got a samsung phone ha
[15:41] <efouladi> I guess so but I'll try :)
[15:41] <Johnywalker> Question: will there be ST-ericsson novathur series support?
 it's SurfaceFlinger
[15:41] <tilal6991> Johnywalker: If there is CM10.1 for it then yes
[15:41] <tilal6991> From what I know there isn't yet so not yet
[15:41] <AlanBell> ptl: isn't it just people reselling grey imports for more than the retail price on the play store?
[15:42] <Johnywalker> i hope because Sony is not giving any JB for XperiaSola
[15:42] <jobless> [Q] what resolutions are supported, as in mdpi, hdpi etc, assuming the device has cm10.1
[15:42] <Namidairo> jobless: take a look at the porting guide
[15:42] <Johnywalker> not yet it is in beta the xda guys in the xperia sola section are working on i
[15:43] <Johnywalker> *it
[15:43] <tilal6991> jobless: XHDPI
[15:43] <tilal6991> HDPI is pretty easy as well4
[15:43] <Hai> question: what about phones with the required hardware specs but the phone dosent have android 4.2? no official
[15:43] <tilal6991> Hai: If it has CM-10.1 it can be done
[15:44] <Revdjenk> I have a  Lenovo a2109 which is tegra 3, 1gb ram.  I would be interested in trying Ubuntu touch. Yesterday's post of all the process to enable it gives me more bravery to try it.
[15:44] <ptl> AlanBell: might be, how could I know? I bought the 16 GB Nexus 7 for US$ 234
[15:44] <shane__> ogra_: im having issues with getting my nexus 10 over to touch ubuntu, i installed ubuntu on a vm and unlocked my device with ubuntu desktop and rooted and everything adb commands are working with the device.  when running the command phablet-flash -b it dled all files and rebooted device, it passed the google screen but hung at a black screen for about 10 minutes now, any ideas?
[15:44] <Johnywalker> Ubuntu Development Question: will there be any lite version of ubuntu for 1 core phone?
[15:45] <Namidairo> suggest you field support questions to #ubuntu-phone
[15:45] <tilal6991> Johnywalker: you don't need one
[15:45] <grizmawe> Is there an API for services and backgrounding?
[15:45] <tilal6991> This one works
[15:45] <keyhey> when does anyone think a port will be out for the skyrocket ?
[15:45] <Johnywalker> why?
[15:45] <zlx_> exit
[15:45] <Namidairo> the cake is a lie
[15:45] <tilal6991> Johnywalker: Well the G300 has a port which runs well so...
[15:45] <Hai> question: only unofficial cm 10.1 with big bugs the phone is the atrix 4G...
[15:45] <tilal6991> Huawei G300
[15:45] <Johnywalker> o nice then
[15:45] <Ursinha> if you want them to read your questions, use QUESTION: to index it, capital letters :)
[15:45] <onlychevys1> when I get port done for hercules, I will build for skyrocket also.
[15:46] <ptl> QUESTION: What high-level APIs work under surfaceflinger now? QT, GTK+, EFL, modified versions of them?
[15:46] <Namidairo> bcmdhd is fickle
[15:46] <Samik> [Q] like you sayed you were able make port for P311x, is the microphone working? many roms have problem with that. Will it be problem to make whole "phone" stuff working on P3100?
[15:46] <Cyanogen101> Stuck with phablet-dev-bootstrap -v i9100 ~
 how long does it take to make the ports or roms ?
[15:46] <ali1234> Cyanogen101: DO NOT BOOTSTRAP IN ~
[15:47] <Guest5389> hi
[15:47] <Cyanogen101> anyone?
[15:47] <Johnywalker> Question: any mali-400 full support?
[15:47] <Cyanogen101> no bootstrap?
[15:47] <Luis___> Can you provide a topdown description of the sw components of touch and what parts of android are still needed?
[15:47] <Guest5389> can it be portes to armv6 devices
[15:47] <ali1234> Cyanogen101: it will poop all over your homedir
[15:47] <ptl> mali-400?
[15:47] <Cyanogen101> ok
[15:47] <tilal6991> Guest5389: Unlikly
[15:47] <Cyanogen101> then how i do it?
[15:47] <ptl> it's used in a bunch of Linux ARM devices
[15:47] <keyhey> QUESTION when can we see the actual preview for other android phones ?
[15:47] <onlychevys1> still downloading source code, then should go smooth I hope lol
[15:47] <tilal6991> The Ubuntu side is compiled in ARMV7
[15:47] <Ursinha> Samik, microphone seems to be working, I haven't tested it through, but the problem is with the network, at least the latest CM 10.1 kernel for it it doesn't work
[15:47] <antdking__> we have a team preparing for armv6 support
[15:47] <Cyanogen101> How to do it then?
[15:48] <ali1234> Cyanogen101: beats me, i was hoping they'd explain it. porting guide doesn't work for me
[15:48] <tilal6991> QUESTION; What's left to get mobile data working
[15:48] <Lagos_> QUESTION: How many of the new tablet features do you think will make it back into Ubuntu Desktop?
[15:48] <Ursinha> Cyanogen101, let's move to #ubuntu-phone
[15:48] <lepetitclement> hello all
[15:48] <Cyanogen101> ok
[15:48] <gh1234> Cyanogen101: Apply this patch: http://bit.ly/XpQghS (link below the comand in doc)
[15:49] <Ursinha> that's my patch :D
[15:49] <gh1234> Well it works :) thanks!
[15:49] <lepetitclement> Are there any news on x86 devices? I have the Razr I and I would love to put Ubuntu Phone OS on it
[15:50] <starks> armv6 got scroogled
[15:50] <tilal6991> Yep
[15:50] <Namidairo> hardfloat says hi
[15:51] <starks> Namidairo, why was armel dropped so quickly a few weeks ago
[15:52] <Samik> Ursinha, thank you
[15:52] <Namidairo> how should i know
[15:52] <Ursinha> Samik, no problem :)
[15:52] <Namidairo> probs because they're old
[15:54] <starks> cyanogenmod works fine with cdma+lte
[15:54] <nikisa> QUESTION : do you believe , ubuntu is going to be an Android rather mobile OS replacement in near future?
[15:54] <roadkill_> any port on s2 ??
[15:56] <Aturik> I would really like to port Ubuntu Touch, but what could happen if I do something wrong.. Can I brick my Phone?
[15:56] <starks> question: any chance of baremetal ubuntu on phones and tablets? i'd like to run x11 and test freedreno drivers
[15:57] <Namidairo> Aturik: for most devices you should be able to flash stock images back on and it should just work
[15:57] <Johnywalker> QUESTION:what about Tegra 4 what do you think?
[15:57] <Namidairo> hdpi, xdpi etc.
[16:01] <Cyanogen101> to fucking hard
[16:01] <Cyanogen101> ment to be easy
[16:01] <Namidairo> ?
[16:01] <starks> oh well
[16:01] <keyhey> QUESTION how do you port ?
[16:01] <Cyanogen101> to port it
[16:01] <ThrashingDude> thanks for all people involved =) this hangout was helpful. will look into the code in the next days.
[16:01] <rsalveti> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[16:01] <ogra_> TANKS GUYS !!!
[16:01] <Cyanogen101> if u have to ask HOW to port it u arent smart enough too
[16:01] <rsalveti> \o/
[16:01] <jochenh> Thanks!
[16:01] <ogra_> (and ships and cars ... )
[16:02] <dholbach> and make sure you follow http://youtube.com/ubuntuonair
[16:02] <nikisa> (Y)
[16:02] <ogra_> (silly typo)
[16:02] <Namidairo> seemed easy to port for me
[16:02] <Aturik> Great Canonical Team!
[16:02]  * dholbach hugs you all
[16:02] <JoseeAntonioR> subscribe to us on youtube.com/UbuntuOnAir
[16:02] <dholbach> you'Re all awesome
[16:02] <JoseeAntonioR> twitter @ubuntunoair
[16:02] <smartboyhw> dholbach, LOL
[16:02] <nikisa> \O/
[16:02] <JoseeAntonioR> oops, @ubuntuonair
[16:02] <smartboyhw> \o/
[16:02] <dholbach> https://twitter.com/ubuntuonair
[16:02] <konradmb> Thanks, this is good knowledge source!
[16:02] <jobless> great work guys,
[16:02] <roadkill_> Thanks guys for this work
[16:03] <rigved> thanksfor all this awesome work!
[16:04] <keyhey> excited to see this on the s2
[16:07] <keyhey> any one have a port for the s2 ?
[16:07] <starks> keyhey, soon enough. which one though?
[16:07] <keyhey> the skyrocket
[16:08] <keyhey> ive got the preview on my nexus 7 and 10 but i dont own a nexus phone
[16:09] <roadkill_> please port on s2 international
 do you know of anyone working on the port ?
[16:13] <starks> keyhey, nope. try xda or finding an s2 channel
[16:14] <keyhey> i will im working on building a no root nexus 4 rom on the s2
[16:18] <keyhey> let me correct that its for only the I727/I727r
[16:19] <starks> keyhey, porting is really drop dead easy once you get past the 16gb pull that takes hours
[16:20] <starks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
 working with this nexus rom is the first ive done and i should be done with it by end of day fully working and you can root it too but its for the s2 I727/r
[16:23] <keyhey> and i only started this cause when i installed CM 10.1 it would freeze when i used my cable to laptop
[16:24] <fairuz__> So Ubuntu Touch is basically Android minimal + Ubuntu filesystem. Correct?
[16:26] <JoseeAntonioR> Guys, we're not live right now
[16:45] <Galaxy-SL> HI ALL
[16:47] <JoseeAntonioR> hey, Galaxy-SL, we're not live right now
[16:48] <Galaxy-SL> quti
[16:58] <nytelife> sup
[17:02] <silviu0zob> I will be able to install ubuntu on my android phone(replacing it), or I must buy a new device that has it pre-installed?
[17:07] <switchblade> i'm so stoked about ubuntu right now
[17:45] <turffy> Q: correct me if Im wrong only 4 phone right now can you install ubuntu mobile?
[17:46] <JoseeAntonioR> turffy: we're not live right now
[17:47] <turffy> oh sorry
[17:55] <grizmawe> turffy, if you join #ubuntu-phone channel this is where most of the converstion is going on
[18:52] <ColMustard> Will Ubuntu Touch support standard packages?
[19:56] <Guest64002> Can we have a terminal commands database built in? A little app to search by context and click to add to the  clipboard...
[20:00] <bslbryan> Some folks at XDA modified one line of code to get the TDP flashing on Toro and ToroPlus Galaxy Nexuses.  I've been trying to get CDMA to work.  The porting guide tells me to extract CM10 files and push them to Ubuntu.  I did that with radio, but it did not work.  Any nudges in the right direction?
[20:01] <JoseeAntonioR> example: QUESTION: What's Ubuntu?
[20:02] <bslbryan> My goodness.  Ubuntu isn't even on air, I'm asking the people in the room.
[20:02] <bslbryan> QUESTION: Some folks at XDA modified one line of code to get the TDP flashing on Toro and ToroPlus Galaxy Nexuses.  I've been trying to get CDMA to work.  The porting guide tells me to extract CM10 files and push them to Ubuntu.  I did that with radio, but it did not work.  Any nudges in the right direction?
[20:04] <JoseeAntonioR> That's loco.ubuntu.com
[20:04] <JoseeAntonioR> bslbryan: there's another session on-air :)
[20:04] <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/globaljam/
[20:05] <mhall119> you can find teams here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[20:06] <bslbryan> JoseeAntonioR: Ha, thanks.
[20:07] <maiatoday> QUESTION: where can I find an svg image for raring to make posters/flyers?
[20:11] <JoseeAntonioR> maiatoday: we'll get that answered in a minute :)
[20:11] <Akhter> I INSTALLED IN NEXUS 4, i love it quite mature and simple enough but so slow and incomplete?
[20:11] <maiatoday> thanks
[20:11] <mhall119> Akhter: it's a very early release
[20:12] <Akhter> yes i know but too much things are incomplete
[20:12] <airurando> QUESTION: where can one find resources on how to test.
[20:12] <Akhter> how much time we should expect for almost working
[20:13] <bslbryan> Akhter: 13.10 or as long as the community itself takes.
[20:14] <Akhter> hmm every body is waitng for things like this but i must say this is real revolution in mobile os world
[20:15] <bslbryan> Akhter: Yes, it is wonderful.  Even with 15% functionality if I could get CDMA radio working on my ToroPlus I would use it as my daily driver.
[20:15] <Akhter> ok
[20:15] <bslbryan> Pajamas, concerts, and Ubuntu.  Wish I lived in Vancouver.
[20:16] <Guest64002> Question: Can we have a terminal commands database built in? A little app to search by context and click to add to the  clipboard...
[20:16] <JoseeAntonioR> spreadubuntu.org
[20:16] <Akhter> but immediately i missed some important things, 1, important contact, 2, lock screen, 3, battery drain,
[20:16] <JoseeAntonioR> Guest20019: we're on the global jams hangout right now :)
[20:18] <Akhter> but immediately i missed some important things, 1, important contact, 2, lock screen, 3, battery drain,
[20:19] <Akhter> i think after these we can use phone for approx normal purpose
[20:19] <JoseeAntonioR> Akhter: could you please move this discussion to #ubuntu-phone? This is off-topic right now
[20:21] <Akhter> i think i am taking about ubuntu phone
[20:21] <JoseeAntonioR> Akhter: yes, but the current hangout is about Ubuntu Global Jams, that's why I'm asking to move to #ubuntu-phone, there are lots more people to discuss about that in there
[20:22] <Akhter> no body is there
[20:23] <JoseeAntonioR> Akhter: yes, do "/j #ubuntu-phone" without the "
[20:27] <toddc_> +1
[20:27] <ubuntu-tt> +1
[20:27] <maiatoday> +1
[20:27] <toddc_> Tempe AZ
[20:27] <vojtech_t> +1
[20:28] <maiatoday> Cape Town ZA
[20:28] <ubuntu-tt> san fernando trinidad and tobago
[20:28] <redtape-renegade> -1 Isle of Man
[20:29] <redtape-renegade> -1  Isle of man
[20:29] <redtape-renegade> 80,000
[20:30] <redtape-renegade> QUESTION: Where do we get stickers for global jam ??
[20:31] <redtape-renegade> QUESTION: What was the type of "JAM" that you showed Jono, last week ?
[20:32] <redtape-renegade> I will ask AlanBell to get some stickers for the UK/Irish populus .. thank-you.
[20:34] <redtape-renegade> Great, come back Randell,                      well done !!
[20:34] <JoseeAntonioR> Any other questions?
[20:35] <redtape-renegade> Can we just recap, for people who are at home who want to join in .. what #channel do we follow on freenode +websites ??
[20:35] <redtape-renegade> soz.. ^QUESTION^
[20:37] <redtape-renegade> Just to say :: I am really excited and stoked about The Ubuntu Global Jam .. Great Job Guys !!!
[20:38] <redtape-renegade> #ubunt ??
[20:38] <JoseeAntonioR> #ubuntu
[20:38] <redtape-renegade> **#ubuntu .... ??
[20:38] <redtape-renegade> thanx
[20:40] <airurando> QUESTION: any thoughts on running a jam online (hangout/irc) for a country (team members spread out around the country)?
[20:40] <redtape-renegade> +1
[20:41] <redtape-renegade> QUESTION :: Where is the Wiki page for the Jam ??
[20:42] <JoseeAntonioR> wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[20:42] <redtape-renegade> loco.ubuntu.com ??  .. Oh   ^ +1
[20:42] <redtape-renegade> got it..
[20:43] <redtape-renegade> Hi Nicolas !!
[20:48] <redtape-renegade> QUESTION:: By "flavours" do you mean Lubuntu etc ??
[20:50] <redtape-renegade> Tell Nicolas thank-you .. cheers.
[20:52] <redtape-renegade> QUESTION:: Jose .. Why can't we comment on the yoyutube channels .. or can we ??
[20:53] <zebaszp> community in argentina is quite inactive as well...
[20:53] <redtape-renegade> **youtube
[20:53] <toddc_> we use Big Blue Button for all our events
[20:53] <redtape-renegade> Aahh .. interesting...
[20:54] <redtape-renegade> maybe I broke it ..
[20:54] <redtape-renegade> ... ver interesting .. can I form a conspiracy club about this ??
[20:55] <ubuntu-tt> they dont want us to know haha
[20:55] <redtape-renegade> exactly ..
[20:55] <zebaszp> wow, internet connectivity in Peru ain't good, is it JoseeAntonioR?
[20:55] <redtape-renegade> it's cool...
[20:55] <ubuntu-tt> QUESTION: Are you guys going todo an ubuntuonair event for the actual global jam?
[20:56] <redtape-renegade> ubuntu-tt: No they are not.
[20:56] <redtape-renegade> -1
[20:56] <redtape-renegade> they may do next year, though...
[20:57] <redtape-renegade> QUESTION .. When will I get my Ubuntu Jetpack ??
[20:57] <balloons> ubuntu for washing machines was announced by dholbach last week :-p
[20:58] <ubuntu-tt> o/
[20:58] <redtape-renegade> OK OK .. well done guys ... excellent Work !!
[21:00] <rrnwexec> thank you all :)
[21:01] <zebaszp> internet here in Argentina is quite crappy as well, I have 3Mb down speed
[21:02] <zebaszp> I once tried a hangout, and it miserably failed due to laggy connections XD
[21:03] <zebaszp> well, cheers guys, I'll try to join tomorrow, I want to start making my own apps :P
[21:07] <coppolla> any developer working on endeavoru version