[00:00] <asterismo> trying http://www.namanb.com/2010/05/changing-bootup-resolution-plymouth-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[00:00] <asterismo> be right back
[00:01] <ochosi> homebrewcider: sorry, i think it's called "displays" instead of "xfce4-display"
[00:05] <asterismo> it worked only for the shutdown plymouth splash
[00:05] <asterismo> not for the boot up
[00:06] <asterismo> :(
[00:06] <ochosi> well at least your system isn't broken now ;)
[00:06] <asterismo> yes
[00:07] <asterismo> after a couple of seconds of no splash at all i was... like... please dont break
[00:07] <asterismo> will try another res
[00:07] <asterismo> thanks, brb
[00:44] <Ramides> can anyone recommend a good tiling windowmanager that works well will xfce? I'd like to try one out
[00:52] <wapiflapi> Ramides: if you find one let me know, I am interested in that as well.
[00:55] <Ramides> wapiflapi: a fine gentleman in #ubuntu recommended awesome wm, i'm going to look into that one
[01:08] <Gamera> hello
[01:09] <wapiflapi> hi Gamera
[01:10] <Gamera> Does *ubuntu do upgrades between full number versions or only between same number versions (such as 11.04 to 11.10)?
[01:10] <wapiflapi> I think that depends on settings in the update manager, but i am not sure about it.
[01:12] <Gamera> I am a long time, dedicated windows user, but really, I only use a few windows things I *need* (which can be run in Vbox just fine) but, I don't care to do a full system upgrade every year or however often a full version update is done... I used XP for almost 10 years... now in win7, and I may stick with it, but poking around and seeing if it's worthwhile to me to bother with *ubuntu for my
[01:12] <Gamera> main machine
[01:13] <Gamera> I may be better off staying with win7 since I have machine more than ample in specs to run it without a problem
[01:14] <Gamera> I have xubuntu on a machine for out in my garage which is older but for my main machine? not sure.
[01:14] <wapiflapi> specs shouldnt be the thing that makes you choose linux over windows ;)
[01:16] <Gamera> well, to a certain degree it can be, like the garage machine. XP isn't getting any younger, the garage machine is too underspec'd RAM & video wise for win7, so xubuntu is a great choice for it. i considered win2k but some software is now XP and newer anymore
[01:16] <wapiflapi> of course =)
[01:16] <Gamera> amazingly, the newest firefox is still win2k
[01:17] <Gamera> but for flash, they stopped at 10.x
[01:19] <Gamera> I guess odds are I will stay with windows. it works for my needs on this machine just fine. I stick with free antivirus (avast) and use firefox for my browser, etc. i very rarely ever have any virus issues. maybe once every 4 years... if that even. and it's never been anything i couldn't fix
[01:20] <Gamera> I'd rip my hair out of something went wrong with linux since I'd have no idea where to even begin hehe
[01:22] <Gamera> I do like xubuntu though, hence it being on the garage machine
[01:32] <wapiflapi> Someone any idea  how I could prevent skype from showing up in the notification area ? (next to wifi & co)
[01:32] <wapiflapi> some sort of whitelist / blacklist somewhere that defines who is allowed to popup there ?
[01:36] <|Slacker|> wapiflapi, I guess skype has a feature you can deactivate
[01:36] <|Slacker|> or a plugin or something
[01:39] <wapiflapi> Well, i didnt find the feature.
[01:40] <wapiflapi> i'll see if I can find a plugin for that
[02:00] <onryo> Was wondering if there is a way to get lightdm to show the names of users.
[02:01] <onryo> as it is now have to type the name of the user and then type the pw
[02:02] <onryo> using ubuntu with only base. xfce as the DE, lightdm, Emerald as a windows manager and compiz as a compositor.
[02:04] <onryo> and it it works darn nice. Just that detail will not showing the names of users when I log in with lightdm
[02:05] <onryo> So yeah its Ubuntu with xfcd and I would call this xubuntu
[02:05] <onryo> xfce
[02:12] <wapiflapi> |Slacker|: i cant find anything :/ idid download the source of the indicator plugin, i am looking at it right now; adding a whitlist should be prety easy, so i guess i'll just hack it that way ;)
[02:46] <reaper> newb here with a probably simple question if anyone has some time :)
[02:47] <reaper> I can not edit my etc/default/grub for some reason and i need to add radeon.audio=1 to it; any ideas? on the latest ver of xubuntu
[02:48] <holstein> reaper: what errors do you get when you try and edit?
[02:49] <reaper> sec ill post it :)
[02:49] <holstein> sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[02:49] <holstein> ^^ that should do it... you'll need to run sudo update-grub afterwards like it says at the top of the file
[02:50] <reaper> ah good he just soled it i was trying for gedit which didnt work so i went to directory and edited it and it wouldnt save now to figure out howto usenano :-D
[02:50] <reaper> just started linux today hehe so fresh guy here after many years inw indows :(
[02:50] <holstein> cool... hope you enjoy :)
[02:51] <reaper> im liking it so far! can i bug you one last time?
[02:52] <holstein> sure... just ask... if someone is around, and/or knows, they will chime in :)
[02:52] <reaper> i edited the line i needed to adjust ( hopefully too  return audio ) and i see where ^x is to dit so i was wondering where do i hit that at then to do my update
[02:52] <holstein> control+o saves
[02:52] <reaper> okay then how do i exit it bleh i hate being a newb
[02:52] <holstein> control+x is to exit
[02:53] <holstein> reaper: you just edit the file, and you save with control+o
[02:53] <holstein> then exit with control+x
[02:53] <reaper> ah okay so when i see ^x it means cntrl and such
[02:53] <holstein> you can also run...
[02:53] <holstein> gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[02:54] <holstein> if you prefer administrator rights to edit a systmen file with a GUI
[02:54] <reaper> hmmm interesting
[02:54] <reaper> see im used to windows im 24 and have used windows since i was about 9 years of age and am graduating with comp prog and analysis but have little to no linux experience heh
[02:54] <reaper> cmd is fine for me i prefer it
[02:54] <reaper> well terminal
[02:54] <holstein> im sure you'll pick it up quickly
[02:55] <reaper> i hope so hehe brb gotta reboot to see if audio has returned!
[03:00] <reaper> well that was anticlimatic still no sound poop
[03:01] <holstein> reaper: lets start at the beginning...
[03:02] <holstein> double check that the speakers are on or whatever... and the speakers are capable of making sound
[03:02] <reaper> i learned in kernel 3.0 and above hdmi audio was disabled automatically due to black screens
[03:02] <reaper> so i re-enabled it in grub with radeon.audio=1
[03:02] <holstein> reaper: not sure about that, just get an older kernel then
[03:02] <reaper> well heres the thing that fix worked in regular ubuntu
[03:03] <reaper> so im wondering why it is not working in xubuntu
[03:03] <reaper> i have it on my tv and my tv audio is loud and unmuted
[03:03] <holstein> could be the applet?... when i muse, im muted
[03:03] <holstein> the hardware switch only mutes... wont unmute in xubuntu
[03:04] <reaper> wait hmmm so any suggestions
[03:04] <reaper> remember your speaking to a windows guy who is used to windows doing everything with basic commands heh damn i feel like a moron
[03:05] <holstein> reaper: make sure you understand how the sound controls operate in xfce
[03:06] <reaper> hah shall i ask another dumb question lol looks like im going to have to look into xfce
[03:06] <reaper> hmm youtube video is not playing sound >.<
[03:06] <holstein> reaper: try just a sound file... thats going to drag flash into the mix, and the web browser
[03:07] <holstein> just open a local audio file and play it with something simple like VLC
[03:07] <reaper> okay let me see if i can find any os basic sounds
[03:08] <chaudhry> reaper do you have 2 cards for sound
[03:08] <reaper> 2 gfx cards both hdmi out only using one cards are xfire
[03:08] <holstein> yeah, thats a good point... sound is probably coming out of the internal sound card
[03:08] <chaudhry> i got same prob now carefully listen
[03:08] <reaper> found a ".mod" file which i guess is equivalent to .mp3?
[03:09] <chaudhry> install pavucontrol on your pc
[03:09] <chaudhry> go to synaptic
[03:09] <reaper> ok googling to find software
[03:10] <holstein> reaper: dont google
[03:10] <chaudhry> no goto synaptic pakage manager its rhere
[03:10] <holstein> open synaptic, and install pavucontrol
[03:10] <reaper> can i do it from terminal?
[03:10] <holstein> yeah... sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[03:11] <reaper> sorry im obnoxious folks bleh now i know what its like to be that customer i always complain about heh
[03:11] <reaper> ok getting
[03:11] <reaper> ok done.
[03:11] <chaudhry> nah i am recent shift from xp too
[03:12] <chaudhry> ok open menu go in multimedia open pulse audio control
[03:12] <reaper> cool how you canuse terminal to install software packages without having to go to sites
[03:12] <reaper> ok opened
[03:12] <chaudhry> yeah i love it in linux
[03:13] <chaudhry> can you see tabs for output devices and playback and input?
[03:13] <reaper> yeah
[03:14] <reaper> i see internal analog audio stereo
[03:14] <chaudhry> in every tab adjust the device to the card you want to use
[03:14] <reaper> couldnt i  just disable my onboard audio via bios?
[03:15] <chaudhry> yeah you can but i dont know how but after adjusting it you ll get your sound back
[03:15] <wapiflapi> yes reaper , that is the easiest, (at least it was for me)
[03:15] <chaudhry> not all boards give options too
[03:15] <reaper> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+
[03:15] <wapiflapi> true :p but it is worth checking
[03:16] <reaper> DAMN CAT ON WIRELESS KEYBOARD
[03:16] <reaper> >.<
[03:16] <reaper> ok let me try adjusting it
[03:16] <reaper> still no dice im looking at audio output and i moved every slider
[03:16] <chaudhry> you can change card in configuration option and volume in other tabs
[03:17] <chaudhry> goto configuration tab
[03:17] <reaper> think i may have it or am close
[03:17] <reaper> im under playback derp
[03:17] <reaper> lol
[03:17] <chaudhry> goto configuration
[03:17] <chaudhry> change the profile menu to what card you want
[03:18] <chaudhry> and turn off the internal; audio from there too it has option
[03:18] <reaper> ok disabled both except the one card im using
[03:18] <chaudhry> yeah now unmute all tabs and try the sound now
[03:20] <reaper> no dice
[03:21] <chaudhry> letme think
[03:22] <chaudhry> did yoou close up the control
[03:22] <reaper> now when i playback via youtube ( cant find an audio file ) it shows the bar with blue a little but its ultra fast
[03:22] <reaper> yeah
[03:22] <reaper> it is like it is playing a minute a second
[03:22] <reaper> i see the bar fluxuating with blue
[03:22] <chaudhry> open again n check the settings again
[03:23] <reaper> its on alsa plugin plugin container btw
[03:23] <chaudhry> change to pulse audio
[03:24] <reaper> how do i change it
[03:24] <reaper> juniper hdmi audio radeon 5700; alsa plugin container
[03:25] <chaudhry> letme do breakfast :) you want some
[03:26] <reaper> can always go for some grub hah unintentional
[03:28] <reaper> bleh damn this sucks i fixed it easily in ubuntu now this is becoming a pain hah brb going to disable onboard audio in bios
[03:32] <reaper> >.<
[03:32] <chaudhry> whatsup
[03:33] <reaper> still fighting the audio fight hah
[03:33] <oobiloz> omg
[03:33] <reaper> wondering what im missing from standard ubunut to here
[03:33] <chaudhry> now follow carefully
[03:33] <reaper> but i love xubuntu
[03:33] <oobiloz> are u having sound issues too?
[03:33] <reaper> yar but mines because i chose to hdmi out via gfx adapters
[03:34] <chaudhry> open up the sound icon from taskbart
[03:34] <chaudhry> taskbar
[03:34] <reaper> ok
[03:35] <reaper> both the playback are the juniper radeon 5700 and now pulseaudio
[03:35] <reaper> not alsa
[03:35] <chaudhry> change the sound card option to the card you want and mysust be on pulse audio
[03:35] <chaudhry> must*
[03:36] <reaper> yeah its on the card and pulse
[03:36] <chaudhry> see the master control it mustnt be mute or low
[03:36] <reaper> its on full blast
[03:37] <chaudhry> open pulse audio control from multimedia
[03:38] <chaudhry> change output port to analogue output/amplifier
[03:38] <chaudhry> input to analogue microphone
[03:39] <reaper> says dummy output
[03:39] <reaper> derp okay anyways following my mistake
[03:39] <chaudhry> configuration profile to analogue stereo duplex
[03:39] <chaudhry> turn off internal audio from there
[03:39] <reaper> output only gives me hdmi not analog
[03:39] <reaper> internal was turned off in there and is now off via the bios
[03:39] <chaudhry> then change all to that
[03:40] <chaudhry> or can you see it digital there
[03:40] <reaper> i can see hdmi and digital hdmi
[03:40] <chaudhry> if it dont  gives you sound try changing profiles
[03:40] <chaudhry> change to digita
[03:41] <chaudhry> digital*....check it ll be back
[03:53] <reaper> ima try to download the drivers from ati and see if they resolve any issues
[03:53] <well_laid_lawn> I'd try pavucontrol
[03:53] <well_laid_lawn> !info pavucontrol
[03:54] <reaper> tried
[03:55] <reaper> :(
[03:55] <well_laid_lawn> k
[03:55] <reaper> didnt work now i got a run file i dont even know how to use heh
[03:55] <reaper> fff i hate being new
[03:56] <reaper> how do i use a run file? cause maybe if i run this it will resolve my current issue
[03:58] <reaper> oh well brb
[04:13] <Gamera> hm. this other pc i'm putting together is sure rigged together
[04:14] <Gamera> replaced the fan in the power supply, have a brand new (but old) AMD heatsink tghtly zip tied down onto a p4, works nicely..
[04:14] <Gamera> gota love the p4 bracket, allowing you to zip tie down a heatsink
[05:52] <zus> what is the XFCE default  Terminal? when i click on the  icon it asks for the associated program and  brings up the usr/bin and i have to scroll through...
[05:57] <Gamera> when you click on the icon for what?
[05:58] <zus> my terminal...
[05:58] <zus> from my launchers, and from my menu
[05:58] <Gamera> must not actually be the terminal then. should be under the accessories menu
[05:58] <Gamera> terminal emulator
[06:01] <zus> yeah it opens a window askin which terminal  and opening  up my  usr/bin  location
[06:02] <Gamera> xfce4-terminal
[06:02] <Gamera> should be it
[06:02] <Gamera> yep it is
[06:02] <Gamera> go to accessories > run program and type that in
[06:04] <Gamera> heh although you can do that with any command to run in terminal i just noticed
[06:04] <Gamera> if you check the box
[06:06] <zus> in the window with the programs i see XFCE-terminal.wrapper is that it?
[06:07] <Gamera> no
[06:07] <Gamera> xfce4-terminal
[06:08] <Gamera> create a launcher if all else fails with that program name
[06:09] <zus> problem is from menu or  my launcher from default panel is opening a window with usr/bin no terminal  attached to the launcher
[06:17] <zus> hmm i got  firefox to work but i dont see  the XFCE-terminal
[06:18] <well_laid_lawn> zus: is it a terminal app?
[06:19] <zus> well, the launcher was default, my tilda i ran from menu when i wanted to use it.
[06:19] <well_laid_lawn> or the terminal itself you want to open?
[06:19] <zus> well the default button form the  panel. doesnt open termial no more
[06:20] <well_laid_lawn> you've checked its' properties and it points to something that exists?
[06:22] <zus> well, it worked when i opened the terminal did "sudo apt-get update" and thats the last time it worked.
[06:23] <zus> well sudo apt-get update / sudo apt-get upgrade / y..... then i shutdown hour later i opened it up to play around.
[06:23] <well_laid_lawn> here the launcher points to   exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator
[06:24] <well_laid_lawn> so it might be an exo problem then
[06:25] <well_laid_lawn> check in   exo-preferred-applications   what the terminakl app is and if it still exists
[06:25] <well_laid_lawn> s/akl/al/
[06:25] <zus> exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator thats what i got .
[06:26] <well_laid_lawn> so you need to check what exo-preferred-applications calls the terminal
[06:26] <well_laid_lawn> check in   exo-preferred-applications   what the terminal app is and if it still exists
[06:27] <zus> is the  s/akl/al the path to check?
[06:28] <well_laid_lawn> no that's regex to repair a spelling mistake I did
[06:28] <zus> oh where do i check to see what exo calls the terminal?
[06:29] <well_laid_lawn> open the menu -settings-settings manager-preffered applications-utilities tab
[06:33] <zus> ok sorry im  a bit slow,  lol
[06:34] <well_laid_lawn> heh it's fine :) not much else happn'n atm
[06:34] <zus> it has "no application selected",... and still takes me to the  window with usr/bin  path
[06:35] <well_laid_lawn> I only have xfce4-terminal-wrapper in /usr/bin so maybe try that one
[06:35] <well_laid_lawn> at least you know why it wasn't working
[06:36] <zus> lol guess that is  true.
[06:37] <well_laid_lawn> I lied - I have a xfce4-terminal in /usr/bin - it didn't show when browsing through preferred applications tho ...
[06:40] <zus> i ill see if its installed by looking in synapptic,....its not a big deal  i have tilda and terminator, BUT why did an update/upgrade muck up the default?
[06:40] <well_laid_lawn> I couldn't say
[06:55] <zus> well_laid_lawn,  in synaptic.... XFCE4-terminal is installed.... and exo-utils has a star on the green box.... i dunno wot the  star means but now im at a loss.
[06:55] <well_laid_lawn> zus: afaik the star means there is an update
[06:58] <zus> oh? cool
[06:58] <zus> i didnt kn
[06:58] <zus> know
[07:01] <zus> how do i hold back an update?
[07:02] <well_laid_lawn> I've no idea
[07:02] <zus> i dont want cups for example...using the terminal your kinda along for the ride...
[10:27] <bigbrovar> Just came here to say a big thankyou to everyone responsible for xubuntu 11.10, came here from kde and I have been really impressed with how stable and simple the who xubuntu set up is. Its been a joyful ride so far so good :)
[10:34] <robro003> My session automatically saves on logout, even though I have it unchecked in Session and Startup
[12:18] <grege> Hi. Okay. Now I don't want to guess how many people have this problem :-) After yesterdays update I can't log in into my system, and talking specifically ecryptfs was broken, what is not funny http://pastebin.com/crB4qSFg
[12:19] <grege> this pastebin shows what update-manager have installed, and after reboot i get that ecryptfs error
[12:20] <grege> should I downgrade to 3.0.0-12 (yes, this version was installed before upgrade)
[12:20] <grege> ?
[12:28] <wapiflapi> hi, how can I remove skype from the indicator-plugin ? there is No option in skype, i looked at the source code for xfce4-indicator-plugin there seems to be a configuration files witch allows blacklisting, but I can't get it to work :/
[12:28] <wapiflapi> anyone has any experience with this ?
[13:02] <reaper> hey how do i get pavucontrols
[13:02] <reaper> !pavu
[13:05] <TheSheep> reaper: install it with the package manager
[13:05] <reaper> is that the more indepth one trhat corrects sound issues? heh fresh here ill have to find the package manager
[13:06] <TheSheep> it's in the system menu
[13:07] <reaper> installing :)
[13:07] <wapiflapi> how can I remove skype from the indicator-plugin ? there is No option in skype, i looked at the source code for xfce4-indicator-plugin there seems to be a configuration files witch  allows blacklisting, but I can't get it to work :/ anyone has any experience with this ?
[13:08] <bouzilla> Hi.
[13:08] <reaper> brb
[13:09] <nasso_> i have tried to install gnome-screensaver in xubuntu but cant find gnome-screensaver-preferences
[13:09] <bouzilla> I am from Russia.
[13:10] <nasso_> it is not there in oneiric http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/gnome-screensaver/filelist
[13:10] <nasso_> but its there in natty http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/amd64/gnome-screensaver/filelist
[13:10] <nasso_> does anyone know where i can find it?
[13:10] <nasso_> or if its replaced by something else?
[13:11] <reaper> bleh crap i can get audio in ubuntu but never xubuntu >.<
[13:12] <reaper> when i go to pavu the playback just says alsa plug-in container: alsa playback
[13:12] <reaper> not the card im using
[13:14] <reaper> sweet got it
[13:14] <reaper> hehe yay finally fixed my hdmi audio issue
[13:15] <reaper> pain in the ass but yay
[13:15] <reaper> ubuntu is just too slow this is so much more efficient
[13:16] <reaper> and i already set my root password so im good to go
[13:19] <reaper> warcraft doesnt work on linux correct?
[13:20] <reaper> time to learn hehe so quiet
[14:39] <phunyguy_work> ok, please help me.  This works on all of my other workstations, but one fully updated ubuntu 11.10 PC I can connect to via vino-server, and can see the screen, but I can't control the remote mouse or keyboard.  (NOT set to view only)
[16:32] <olbi> hello, I have problems
[16:33] <olbi> I try to change default apps in ods file but system types me that it cannot create this on mimetypse because of permisions
[16:33] <olbi> .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list.OH394V: fails: No access
[16:33] <olbi> in other files it's same
[16:43] <TheSheep> olbi: can you open a terminal, type 'ls -ald .local/share/applications' and pastebin the result?
[16:47] <olbi> TheSheep, ok
[16:47] <olbi> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2011-11-14 16:12 .local/share/applications
[16:47] <olbi> only this was written
[16:50] <TheSheep> olbi: this directory is owned by root
[16:50] <TheSheep> olbi: but it should be owned by your user
[16:50] <Sysi> sudo chown regularusername:regularusername ~/.local/share/applications
[16:51] <Sysi> never run GUI apps with sudo, only gksudo
[16:51] <olbi> i didnt run it as root, only loggeg as user :/
[16:51] <TheSheep> olbi: the command that Sysi gave you will change the ownership of that directory to "regularusername"
[16:51] <olbi> yesterday I could change
[16:51] <TheSheep> olbi: but you may have more directories with wrong ownership like that
[16:51] <olbi> today it shown
[16:52] <olbi> why this happens? :(
[16:52] <olbi> i am using system on external drive on USB cable :]
[16:53] <Sysi> my guess was that you've ran thunar with sudo, but maybe it's interference of some other OS
[16:54] <olbi> on computer where I running Xubuntu on ext.drive is installed Windows 7 Pro
[16:56] <olbi> very thx for help :) works now normally
[20:48] <Arpad2> hello
[20:49] <Arpad2> how to fix a package system which is broken?
[21:21] <matthew> Hello, I just installed Xubuntu 11.10 did updates and restarted. Then installed ATI proprietary drivers and restarted. I try and start amdcccle and apply settings for a dual monitor setup and it crashes and says Segmentation fault and doesn't apply the settings.
[21:22] <matthew> Help please?
[21:23] <matthew> Anybody there?
[21:25] <olbi> hello
[21:25] <olbi> what cards do you have?
[21:31] <loderndentech> Is there anybody here?
[21:33] <olbi> yes :)
[21:33] <loderndentech> Well lets hope you can help.
[21:33] <olbi> what problem you have?
[21:34] <loderndentech> I just install Xubuntu 11.10 and installed update and restarted. Then install ATI proprietary drivers and opened amdcccle and tried to setup dual monitors and I click apply and it crashes and says Segmentation fault
[21:34] <olbi> so what card do you have?
[21:35] <loderndentech> HD3000
[21:35] <olbi> IGP?
[21:35] <olbi> on MotherBoard?
[21:35] <loderndentech> IGP? whats that
[21:35] <olbi> Integrated Graphics Processor :)
[21:35] <loderndentech> yes its a laptop so probably mobility
[21:36] <olbi> you want connect external monitor to laptop?
[21:36] <loderndentech> yes i rarly use it outside of home
[21:37] <olbi> try first connect it and check if on display is image
[21:37] <olbi> dual monitors on AMD isnt working so great like on NVIDIA
[21:38] <loderndentech> ok does the monitor make a difference
[21:38] <loderndentech> ?
[21:39] <olbi> after connect monitor to laptop it should take image to monitor
[21:39] <loderndentech> ok unplug it and plug back in?
[21:39] <olbi> yes
[21:39] <olbi> and what happen then
[21:40] <loderndentech> ok it came back up just the same
[21:40] <olbi> segmentation fault?
[21:40] <olbi> no image on monitor?
[21:40] <loderndentech> ok thats when i type # amdcccle in terminal
[21:40] <loderndentech> and change settings and click apply
[21:40] <loderndentech> there image
[21:41] <olbi> ok, so cloning works
[21:41] <loderndentech> yes
[21:41] <olbi> and you want dual desktop?
[21:41] <loderndentech> yes where i can drag windows across
[21:43] <olbi> hmmm, never tried this on AMD :P only on NVIDIA and that works fine, could we w8 for tommorow with this? I will check that on my Radeon and 2 monitors :)
[21:43] <loderndentech> Sure what time
[21:43] <olbi> when you will be here?
[21:44] <loderndentech> IDK let me look
[21:44] <loderndentech> well im mountain time so anytime after 4:00 pm
[21:45] <loderndentech> its 2:45 right now
[21:45] <olbi> I have 10:45 pm
[21:45] <loderndentech> wow lol
[21:45] <loderndentech> ok
[21:46] <olbi> you have 2:45 am?
[21:46] <olbi> or pm
[21:46] <loderndentech> pm
[21:46] <loderndentech> lol should have said that
[21:46] <olbi> ok, I will w8 until midnight :)
[21:46] <loderndentech> so anytime really
[21:47] <olbi> try to be 3 pm like today
[21:47] <loderndentech> ok  can do
[21:47] <olbi> and type to me on PM, I will be tommorow
[21:47] <loderndentech> staraneg question are there any good xrandr confige tools until then
[21:47] <loderndentech> ok
[21:50] <olbi> grandr or arandr
[21:50] <loderndentech> ok thank you
[21:50] <olbi> and gnome have screen resolution which is front end for xrandr
[21:50] <olbi> I think
[21:50] <loderndentech> does XFCE4?
[21:52] <olbi> xrandr is part of x.org, so xfce support it
[21:52] <olbi> in settings


[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[10:13] <Mithrandir> amitk: were your networking fix uploaded anywhere?
[10:13] <Mithrandir> s/were/was/
[10:46] <amitk> Mithrandir: you mean the ethernet fix? yes, it is in the Hardy kernel tree now.
[10:48] <Mithrandir> hm, ok.  I'll get the linux source in the hardy PPA removed then.
[10:48] <Mithrandir> I wonder why my networking was broken last night.
[10:49] <StevenK> Mithrandir: Technically, my week is over, but do you need me to do anything?
[10:49] <Mithrandir> StevenK: I think we're good for now, unless you _want_ to work after your hours.
[10:50] <StevenK> Mithrandir: Meh, 30 minutes or so is fine
[10:51] <amitk> Mithrandir: you might want to wait until a new kernel is uploaded though
[10:51] <Mithrandir> amitk: oh, why?
[10:52] <amitk> Mithrandir: to have a kernel with the fix available for use? or were you only planning to remove the _source_ and keep the .deb available?
[10:53] <Mithrandir> amitk: oh, it's in the the .git tree, but not the uploaded kernel?  Ack.
[10:55] <Mithrandir> we'd need to reupload a new version since hardy has 4.7 now.
[10:56] <Mithrandir> amitk: do you want to upload to the PPA or should I?
[11:01] <amitk> Mithrandir: Hardy will have a -5.8 now. It is an ABI bump and will require LUM, LRM to be rebuilt too. Since compiling and testing all archs takes a lot of time, I suggest going with a -4.7 + the networking patch for UME PPA. What do you think?
[11:01] <Mithrandir> amitk: sounds like a plan to me.
[11:02] <Mithrandir> amitk: can you get that uploaded or should I do it?
[11:04] <amitk> Mithrandir: I'll prepared the tree and ask you to sign and upload it
[11:04] <Mithrandir> amitk: you're a member of the ubuntu-mobile group, so you should be able to just upload to the PPA yourself?
[11:04] <Mithrandir> lool: why is hildon-desktop - 1:0.0.43-1ubuntu1~um804+1 in the ppa?  Shouldn't it be in hardy and removed from the PPA?
[11:04] <amitk> Mithrandir: aah yes, I had forgotten that we were uploading it the PPA. Sure I'll do it
[11:05] <Mithrandir> amitk: cheers
[11:10] <Mithrandir> StevenK: have you had any further luck with tinymail and modest lately?
[11:16] <lool> Mithrandir: It's always the same hildon-desktop which was only uploaded to init the hardy PPA
[11:16] <lool> Mithrandir: It wont be pulled I think
[11:16] <StevenK> Mithrandir: I need to update libtinymail to 0.0.7
[11:16] <StevenK> Mithrandir: Modest looks good, we just need to fix the strings and icons, and it's done
[11:17] <StevenK> Given David's glowing report about modest, I think we want it instead of claws
[11:17] <lool> Mithrandir: Can one remove stuff from PPAs nowadays?
[11:17] <Mithrandir> lool: apparently, I can.
[11:17] <lool> Mithrandir: I checked again, and don't see the option
[11:18] <lool> Mithrandir: Interesting; where is this?
[11:18] <Mithrandir> you're not lp_archive on drescher, last time I checked. :-P
[11:18] <lool> Ah; it was a planned LP feature, but still not implemented then
[11:18] <Mithrandir> StevenK: yay, cool.  Any idea when?
[11:18] <lool> Mithrandir: You can remove it if you like; there are other real things in the ppa, but I wouldn't bother
[11:19] <lool> Mithrandir: Simply because ATM, we are likely to have many things older than hardy, and this will regularly happen
[11:19] <Mithrandir> lool: ideally, I'd like us to not have any items in the hardy bit of the PPA.
[11:19] <lool> It will be useful to do such a cleanup when hardy freezes
[11:19] <StevenK> Mithrandir: Well, do you want me to look at libtinymail/modest instead of chat?
[11:19] <lool> Mithrandir: I would like to do with the exception that I still want to be able to list it in sources.list
[11:19] <Mithrandir> StevenK: if you don't mind, yes, please.
[11:19] <lool> Mithrandir: Also, it's very likely that we will use it when hardy freezes and post hardy release
[11:20] <StevenK> Mithrandir: I need to chat to you about chat anyway
[11:20] <Mithrandir> lool: of course, but having it close to empty means answering "what still needs to go into hardy" is a lot easier than if it has too much crap in it.
[11:20] <lool> s/to do/too
[11:20] <Mithrandir> StevenK: oh, chat as in moblin-chat.  Shoot.
[11:20] <lool> Mithrandir: Sure; when I uploaded h-d it was the only and very first hardy module in it :)
[11:20] <StevenK> Mithrandir: As in Pigdin on Maemo
[11:20] <lool> Mithrandir: Now there are other stuff notably icedtea
[11:21] <lool> libdrm, linux, linux-meta, moblin-applets, oo.o, osso-af-settings
[11:21] <StevenK> Mithrandir: I've tried to get a sensible diff between Pidgin and Pigdin on Maemo. It's 766K
[11:21] <lool> Mithrandir: I would appreciate if you could remove osso-af-settings though; the same source is in hardy now; I uploaded to get a build asap and because I can't upload to main
[11:21] <Mithrandir> lool: sure, np.
[11:22] <Mithrandir> StevenK: have you talked to Adilson about the patch?  Or the MID team?
[11:22] <Mithrandir> lool: willdo.
[11:22] <StevenK> Not yet
[11:22] <Mithrandir> lool: icedtea is gutsy, not hardy, iirc?
[11:23] <Mithrandir> there, hildon-desktop, osso-af-settings gone
[11:23] <lool> Mithrandir: Indeed, my mistake on icedtea
[11:24] <Mithrandir> no worries.
[11:24] <Mithrandir> StevenK: ~750k diff just sounds too large, so I'd start by talking to them to see what they have.  Afaik, they have something smaller.
[11:44] <Mithrandir> who is taking responsibility for getting Adilson's moblin-applets package into hardy?  Or has that already happened?
[11:45] <StevenK> Oh, damn. That was me.
[11:45] <StevenK> Sorry, it slipped off of my plate.
[11:45] <StevenK> Mithrandir: I'll check it over and upload it soonish
[11:46] <Mithrandir> cheers.
[13:24] <AtomicPunk>  /nick ToddBrandt


 I'm doing well, just having a nice cup of tea. but also in a meeting so a bit slow replying
[08:36] <mvo> zyga[m]: and you?
[08:37] <zyga[m]> you must have a lot of meetings!
[08:37] <zyga[m]> I'm good, just finishing coffee and looking at schedule for today
[08:49] <mardy> hi zyga[m]!
[08:49] <zyga[m]> hey, how are you doing?
[08:49] <mardy> all good, thanks! :-)
[08:50] <mardy> mborzecki: I'm having a sort of deja-vu here, I think I met this issue before but I don't remember the outcome :-(
[08:50] <mardy> it's about temporary files in snapshots
[08:51] <mardy> like /root/snap/test-snap/common.~F50Yqp533~/test_1.txt
[08:51] <mborzecki> mardy: hmm you had a PR?
[08:51]  * mardy looks
[08:51] <mborzecki> we hit it on centos somehow and then reproduced on some other distro
[08:51] <mborzecki> mardy: there was a race between cleanup and remove?
[08:52] <mardy> mborzecki: oh, I completely forgot about this: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11321
[08:52] <mup> PR #11321: overlord: fix issue with snapshot restoring on CentOS <Needs Samuele review> <Created by mardy> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11321>
[09:24] <mup> PR snapd#11515 opened: snap-bootstrap: Partially revert simplifications of mount dependencies <Created by valentindavid> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11515>
[09:59] <mup> PR snapd#11516 opened: snapstate: remove system fontconfig rebuild <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11516>
[10:14] <mup> PR snapd#11517 opened: Snapshot exclusions <Created by mardy> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11517>
[11:39] <mup> PR snapd#11518 opened: i/b/modem-manager: provide access to ObjectManager and update DBus policy <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11518>
[11:49] <diddledani> any clue what's going on here?
[11:49] <diddledani> /snap/snapd/15177/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine: error while loading shared libraries: /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: cannot apply additional memory protection after relocation: Permission denied
[11:49] <diddledani> this is inside docker
[11:54] <mup> PR snapd#11410 closed: snap: add new cpu quotas  <Created by Meulengracht> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11410>
[12:04] <mup> PR snapd#11519 opened: snap/quota: additional validation in resources.go <Created by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11519>
[12:24] <mup> PR snapd#11488 closed: i/seccomp/template.go: add close_range to the allowed syscalls <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11488>
[12:38] <mardy> golang question: how can I export a struct (I declared it as myStruct in a package, and I want to use it in the tests)?
[12:45] <mardy> oh, got it: `type MyStruct struct {myStruct}` and then pass `&var.myStruct` to functions expecting `*mystruct` values (where `var := &MyStruct{}`)
[12:45] <miguelpires> mardy: you can also just redefine as a new type in the export_test.go so. Something like `type MyStruct mystruct`
[13:10] <mup> PR snapd#11520 opened: o/snapstate: avoid setting up single reboot when update includes base, kernel and gadget <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11520>
[13:20] <mardy> miguelpires: oh, and then I don't need any cast-like operations?
[13:25] <mup> PR snapd#11521 opened: tests: move lxd-postrm-purge to manual until remove snapd works again <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11521>
[13:30] <mup> PR snapd#11522 opened: tests: re-enable lxd postrm purge <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11522>
[13:39] <miguelpires> mardy: I don't think so because the underlying type is the same. There are some examples of this in overlord/snapstate/export_test.go
[13:40] <mup> PR snapd#11523 opened: snap/quota: fix bug in quota group tree validation code <Created by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11523>
[14:00] <mup> PR snapd#11524 opened: o/snapshotstate: refactor snapshot read/write logic <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11524>
[15:35] <mup> PR snapd#11525 opened: o/snapstate: make sure that snapd is a prerequisite for updating base snaps <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11525>
[15:50] <mup> PR snapd#11526 opened: o/snapstate, ifacestate: pass preseeding flag to AddSnapdSnapServices <Preseeding 🍞> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11526>
[16:57] <mup> Bug #1965328 opened: transient scope could not be started error in bionic lxd container <Snappy:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1965328>
[17:36] <mup> PR snapd#11527 opened: image: integrate UC20 preseeding with image.Prepare <⛔ Blocked> <Preseeding 🍞> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11527>
[19:11] <mup> PR snapd#11528 opened: tests: use lxd from edge to avoid issues not fixed on candidate yet <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11528>
[19:23] <mup> PR snapcraft#3660 closed: providers: integrate craft-providers support <Created by cmatsuoka> <Merged by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3660>
[21:38] <mup> PR snapcraft#3666 opened: gradle v1 plugin: add support for JDK 17 <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3666>
[22:12] <mup> PR snapd#11521 closed: tests: move lxd-postrm-purge to manual until remove snapd works again <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Closed by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11521>
[22:12] <mup> PR snapd#11522 closed: tests: re-enable lxd postrm purge <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Closed by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11522>
[22:12] <mup> PR snapd#11528 closed: tests: use lxd from edge to avoid issues not fixed on candidate yet <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11528>
[23:43] <mup> PR snapd#11529 opened: tests/lib/nested.sh: rm core18 snap after download <Simple 😃> <Run nested> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11529>