[08:21] <devint> Can anybody tell me how I can import my font and dll's from my windows installation into Wine?
[08:21] <TaZzZ> chrix1:yes it is
[08:21] <poningru> chrisx1: doh sorry that kopete is not in ubuntu yet
[08:21] <chrisx1> I Cant See Display Picture on it:S
[08:21] <jeed890> CAN ANYBODY HELP ME WITH A BOOT UP PROBLEM?
[08:21] <topyli> phiqtion: you don't care where it is. the executable should be /usr/bin/wine
[08:21] <shinu> DrBair: does that command add that to $PATH for good? or is it just temporary?
[08:21] <poningru> Seveas: any idea when that will be in?
[08:21] <mwe> jeed890: cut the caps
[08:21] <topyli> jeed890: you're hurting my eyes
[08:21] <chrisx1> poningru, I Cant See Display Picture on it:S
[08:21] <djk_> Seveas: where's ubotu?
[08:21] <Seveas> jeed890, please drop the caps and simply state your problem
[08:21] <gnomefreak> gaim2 is dev stage yet?
[08:21] <poningru> jeed890: calm down dude whats the problem?
[08:21] <Seveas> poningru, -ENOCLUE
[08:21] <Thunderguy> I just got these Ubuntu Cd's 5.10 for the PC, the 5 that I ordered, but I have a problem, they are all scratched up on the disc's surface, not that it is so bad, but I can almost garuntee by looking at it that information on the discs is damaged, anyone know a good way to remove scratches and repair disc surfaces?
[08:22] <Seveas> djk_, -ENOCLUE either :)
[08:22] <DrBair> shinu: thats for good
[08:22] <djk_> phiqtion: type locate wine in a terminal ..not sure where it's installed to
[08:22] <topyli> damn. nautilus-sendto still doesn't offer to send files via bluetooth :(
[08:22] <versipolis> Thunderguy: toothpaste? :)
[08:22] <owner989> thunder theres some liquid you can get
[08:22] <shinu> DrBair: ok thanks a lot
[08:22] <owner989> that supposedly removes scratches
[08:22] <Lord_Maynoth> Anyone here know if Dapper drake will autodetect and MOUNT windows partitions without a script?????
[08:22] <Thunderguy> versipolist: Are you serious?
[08:22] <Seveas> topyli, gnome-bluetooth from breezy sucks
[08:22] <zeta> DrBair is the guide in the wiki?
[08:22] <poningru> chrisx1: whats a display picture? is it the picture through video camera? or the one they choose?
[08:22] <jeed890> ok my problem is when i start up pc grub boot loader starts i can get into xp but when i try to boot up ubuntu it comes up with loads of code i dont understand
[08:22] <Seveas> topyli, grab my dapper backports :)
[08:23] <owner989> maynoth if you looked at the link i posted, you could have ubuntu mount the partition correctly on every boot
[08:23] <topyli> Seveas: i just backported dapper gnome-bluetooth, but no worky
[08:23] <chrisx1> poningru, one they choose some peoples i can see but some others i can
[08:23] <ubun-newbie> ** (gedit:7981): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed  how to fix this problem
[08:23] <ProfQki> i made an apt-get upgrade this morning and till that time suspend to disk doesn't work correct
[08:23] <poningru> chrisx1: hmm not sure what the problem is
[08:23] <topyli> Seveas: should i backport nautlus-sendto as well?
[08:23] <DrBair> zeta: nope, its at http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html in the "Additional notes..."  header
[08:23] <Seveas> topyli, no idea, I never tried that function :)
[08:23] <Dasnipa`> Lord_Maynoth, why would you want it to detect and mount ntfs automatically, when you can just edit the file and do it yourself
[08:23] <Lord_Maynoth> thats great owner except you are ignoring the question....   I just asked if dapper would do it automatically... your responce is to sownload a script
[08:23] <poningru> jeed890: did you try waiting till all that code is done?
[08:23] <owner989> its not a script
[08:23] <owner989> its just a command
[08:23] <DrBair> zeta: if you read through it, its not too bad. this was my first undertaking as a linux noobie
[08:24] <chrisx1> poningru, is there a newer version than v1.5.0
[08:24] <Lord_Maynoth> ok then manually edit the fstab
[08:24] <Lord_Maynoth> or whatever
[08:24] <topyli> Seveas: nautilus-sendto is not newer in dapper anyway
[08:24] <chrisx1> nm
[08:24] <chrisx1> goin to there chan
[08:24] <zeta> ok will try
[08:24] <jeed890> it comes up with system panic (next line) system trying to kill init!
[08:24] <jki> Hi
[08:24] <Lord_Maynoth> windows people hate the CLI... and it still is irrelivent to the question... but thanks anyway
[08:24] <jki> Any ideas about why gnome-settings-daemon is only started for the first one of simultaneous Gnome sessions by same user? If i killall gnome-settings-daemon, bonobo-activation-server starts it in each Gnome session.
[08:24] <zeta> DrBair any way to get floppy disks to auto mount
[08:24] <owner989> i dont know maynoth, but ubuntu didnt correctly mount my ntfs partition when i first installed it
[08:24] <poningru> chrisx1: no thats the latest
[08:24] <zeta> DrBair they mount when i right click and click mount.....
[08:24] <owner989> but its not hard to edit fstab
[08:24] <Dasnipa`> the question is whats the big deal about adding a line to fstab to do it... someone might not want to mount an ntfs partition automatically
[08:25] <Thunderguy> Hey, do you think 'eyeglass lensecleaner' will work on cd's?
[08:25] <Lord_Maynoth> owner nothing is really hard with ubuntu
[08:25] <Lord_Maynoth> its just annoying
[08:25] <ProfQki> who can help me with hibernate problem?
[08:25] <chrisx1> poningru, ok
[08:25] <Lord_Maynoth> it took me over 3 weeks to get it the way I liked it
[08:25] <poningru> Dasnipa`: whats the prob?
[08:25] <Lord_Maynoth> thats insane... and no windows person is going to deal with that
[08:25] <Dasnipa`> poningru, nothing im commenting on Lord_Maynoth's question
[08:25] <poningru> oh
[08:25] <gnomefreak> Lord_Maynoth,  apt-get upgrade is hard for people that never used it before
[08:25] <poningru> ProfQki: whats wrong?
[08:26] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[08:26] <owner989> maynoth, removing spyware from windows computer take a while too
[08:26] <poningru> what are we arguing about?
[08:26] <owner989> ive seen so many comps wrecked with spyware
[08:26] <Lord_Maynoth> yup.... still dodging the question
[08:26] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[08:26] <Dasnipa`> why did it take 3 months? i had no clue what i was doing at first and it took a google searcha nd the first link had the line i needed to add my ntfs to fstab and it worked perfectly
[08:26] <owner989> but its a valid point
[08:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> !ati
[08:26] <Lord_Maynoth> Dasnipa there were tons of little annoyances I had to fix
[08:27] <poningru> guys does gedit have autocomplition for c++?
[08:27] <ProfQki> poningru: after apt-get upgrade this morning when i resume after hibernation and i type the password it falls back to suspend
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> being able to play mp3s divx
[08:27] <topyli> anybody know a better bluetooth gui interface than gnome-bluetooth? (i don't want to install half of kde either)
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> home networking
[08:27] <Seveas> poningru, no
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> printer drivers
[08:27] <zeta> DrBair this is not a usb card reader
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> modem drivers
[08:27] <ubun-newbie> ** (gedit:7981): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed  how to fix this problem
[08:27] <ProfQki> poningru: till the upgrade it worked well
[08:27] <gnomefreak> :x
[08:27] <zeta> DrBair does that matter?
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> ntfs partitions
[08:27] <Seveas> ubun-newbie: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> none of it was hard to do
[08:27] <owner989> i can play mp3s divx lord_maynoth
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> just time consuming to google
[08:27] <owner989> you just need the codecs
[08:27] <poningru> Seveas: do you know of a good text editor that does?
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah you guys are so not even listening
[08:27] <Dasnipa`> time consuming to google... rofl
[08:27] <Seveas> poningru, no
[08:27] <owner989> lol dasnipa
[08:27] <Dasnipa`> read man pages much?
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> to the points being made or the questions being asked
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> yes it is easy
[08:28] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, if you simply looked at the wiki it would have taken mere hours
[08:28] <Seveas> or minutes
[08:28] <poningru> ProfQki: do you remember what was upgraded today?
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> but it takes weeks to configure
[08:28] <DrBair> zeta: what bus does it run on?
[08:28] <Millenniumgroup> damn so many posts about DD5.1 sound on the ubuntu forum :(
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> i disagree
[08:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I downloaded the ATI Xorg Driver from Synaptic, but everytime I try to fun fglrxconfig It wants to write to the XFree86 File.
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> totally
[08:28] <owner989> i agree seveas, ubuntu is a great learning tool
[08:28] <owner989> for linux newbies
[08:28] <ProfQki> poningru: just a minute
[08:28] <owner989> there is so much documentation
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> yes
[08:28] <sethk> Biscuitian_Warhe, and?
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> there are thousands of how to articles
[08:29] <poningru> owner989: I disagree there isnt enough
[08:29] <Lord_Maynoth> everyhthing is there
[08:29] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, disagree all you want, but don't blamu Ubuntu for you not being able to find things
[08:29] <Lord_Maynoth> everything you ever wanted to know
[08:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> sethk: I've got Xorg. I downloaded the xorg one. Yet it keeps trying to write to that file
[08:29] <poningru> have you looked at gentoo documentation?
[08:29] <Lord_Maynoth> hey I am not seav
[08:29] <poningru> its sooo much better than ubuntu docs
[08:29] <Lord_Maynoth> just pointing out the obvious
[08:29] <sethk> Biscuitian_Warhe, and?  why do you think that's a problem?
[08:29] <zeta> DrBair checking now
[08:29] <Thunderguy> Is there an ubuntu program I could use or download to check the surface of a cd for unreadable areas due to scratches?
[08:29] <owner989> but gentoo takes much longer to setup
[08:29] <Seveas> Thunderguy, you can vrify the md5sum of the cd
[08:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> sethk: I don't know how to configure xorg myself. But this won't do it either. So bleh.
[08:30] <jeed890> thunder guy just clean the discs
[08:30] <DrBair> zeta:  some of the internal ones are usb
[08:30] <sethk> Biscuitian_Warhe, writing xorg.conf _is_ configuring xorg
[08:30] <Lord_Maynoth> ubuntu needs a device manager with the ability to update and install new drivers,  it needs a .exe install system like autopackage, and it needs to autodetect and automount windows partitions out of box to apeal to windows morons
[08:30] <phiqtion> djk_: i have been appreciating you're help. how can i install a new programa to wine or winetools ?
[08:30] <Thunderguy> True, Seveas: The cd's from the factory have the same chksum as the cd's from the download site?
[08:30] <Lord_Maynoth> if windows morons is not your target base then it is working great!
[08:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> sethk: Can you just tell me about !ati, so I can go to that one wiki... Lol
[08:30] <Lord_Maynoth> not sure why there is a disagreement
[08:30] <Seveas> Thunderguy, yes
[08:31] <Seveas> Thunderguy, and there is also md5sums.txt in the root of the cd
[08:31] <Thunderguy> k.
[08:31] <Seveas> Biscuitian_Warhe, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:31] <Dasnipa`> 'windows morons' just need to learn to not be lazy and actually read man mages, and not think that google 'takes too much time'
[08:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Google is a great tool.
[08:31] <owner989> exactly dasnipa
[08:31] <owner989> thats why there is so much spyware and virus infected computers
[08:32] <poningru> Seveas: on the cd cant you press backspace at prompt?
[08:32] <UncleD> If I am using the LiveCD can I mkdir /home/media and create virtual space in memory?
[08:32] <Seveas> Dasnipa`, please don't use words as morons
[08:32] <Lord_Maynoth> I am not saying it is bad, or poorly documented.... it just takes more time digging through how to guides and being on the CLI than most windows users care to do
[08:32] <ProfQki> poningru: unfortunately i can't tell what i upgraded
[08:32] <DrBair> zeta: i need to do some stuff around the house before the wife figures out I've been a bum all day.  If you still need help you can PM me
[08:32] <zeta> DrBair its an internal usb
[08:32] <Dasnipa`> Seveas, i put it in quotes as i was using the wording that Lord_Maynoth used
[08:32] <jeed890> does anybody run xp and ubuntu 5.04 dual boot (grub)
[08:32] <zeta> DrBair i will try the guide
[08:32] <DrBair> zeta: ah ok, then that should work
[08:33] <Seveas> jeed890, I used tu
[08:33] <poningru> owner989: Dasnipa` Lord_Maynoth : no its not the users fault the software needs to mature enough to have almost zero learning curve, if the software is requiring reading 100's of pages of docs then it has failed
[08:33] <djk_> phiqtion: if you want to install a windows prog with wine type  wine name/of/the/program.exe to install it..
[08:33] <veryfunny> DrBair thanks
[08:33] <OneSeventeen> how do I set up multiple IP addresses on the same interface? (for web server purposes)
[08:33] <poningru> I am speaking about end user software
[08:33] <jeed890> could you help me plz then seveas because thats my problem
[08:33] <Lord_Maynoth> we agree then poningru
[08:33] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, learning linux is much much easier than learning windows
[08:33] <veryfunny> DrBair can this be used for an USB controller also?
[08:33] <djk_> phiqtion: of course you'll have to be in the dir of said exe or point to it..
[08:34] <ProfQki> OneSeventeen: you can make ethx:1 interface and give an ip for it
[08:34] <Lord_Maynoth> bwhahahaha    it will be in ten years if MS doesn't kill by then with frtiz chips
[08:34] <veryfunny> DrBair it is an old media box so it has buttons fro music, tv, camera, etc
[08:34] <ProfQki> OneSeventeen: for example ifconfig eth0:1 <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:34] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, blaming linuc for not having fritz drivers is ridiculous
[08:34] <zeta> DrBair it is an old media box so it has buttons fro music, tv, camera, etc
[08:34] <Lord_Maynoth> its taking too long to evolve into a cosumer level os, and the groundwork for trusted computing is being laid
[08:34] <zeta> DrBair can this be used for that card also?
[08:35] <Lord_Maynoth> straw man argument
[08:35] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[08:35] <Millenniumgroup> Lord_Maynot  it needs a .exe install system like autopackage, and it needs to autodetect and automount windows partitions out of box to apeal to windows morons ......... clearly you can't be serious?
[08:35] <jeed890> can you @seveas?
[08:35] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, bullshit and please stop this highly irrelevant discussion
[08:35] <poningru> Lord_Maynoth: unfortunately you cannot straight up build a mature os it has to evolve
[08:35] <bshumate> treacherous computing is more like it
[08:35] <UncleD> If I am using the LiveCD can I mkdir /home/media and create virtual space in memory?
[08:35] <Seveas> Millenniumgroup, ewwww autopackage
[08:35] <DrBair> zeta: udev can be used to assign device names to pretty much anything, or force them as is the case now
[08:35] <Seveas> talk about crap...
[08:35] <Lord_Maynoth> oop ok
[08:35] <poningru> Lord_Maynoth: take a look at plasma and other things
[08:35] <Dasnipa`> well thats if microsoft survives after thier new OS flops, and google surpasses them in size and puts out a linux based google OS
[08:35] <BlueDevil> Seveas: hello, are you maintaining a repo with freenx?
[08:35] <Millenniumgroup> Seveas I was quoting Lord_Maynoth
[08:35] <UncleD> If I am using the LiveCD can I mkdir /home/media and create virtual space in memory? I need to mount /dev/hda1 using the LiveCD to fix a problem with ld-2.2.93.so
[08:35] <zeta> DrBair ok i will play with it
[08:35] <Lord_Maynoth> maybe i am wrong... but trusted computing is on its way
[08:35] <phiqtion> djk_: thanks
[08:36] <Lord_Maynoth> licences cost money
[08:36] <Seveas> enough of this nonsense alread
[08:36] <ProfQki> OneSeventeen: is it good for you?
[08:36] <bshumate> @Lord_Maynoth:  sometimes when you want to do something along the same lines, but differently, *you* have to change.  Linux does not work like windows, just like riding a horse, or bicycle will get you somewhere, but not in the same manner as driving a car.  *You* either adapt to using Linux the way Linux works, or just stick to being a "Windows Moron". ;-)
[08:36] <djk_> phiqtion: you're welcome.
[08:36] <poningru> ok guys this argument does not belong here
[08:36] <Seveas> please stop this irrelevant discussion or move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:36] <Seveas> this is a support channel
[08:36] <Millenniumgroup> agreed let's stop this pointless argument, it's not going anywhere
[08:36] <poningru> yeah what the OP said
[08:36] <Seveas> and even though Lord_Maynoth needs support, that should be somewhere else ;)
[08:36] <Lord_Maynoth> and linux cannot be free and pay for licences for trusted computing if MS allows them to be licenced on the TP platform even
[08:36] <florg> hi. what is a good sound recording tools for GNOME? Like krec for KDE
[08:36] <Kyral> Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <BlueDevil> Seveas: do you or do you not
[08:37] <BlueDevil> ?
[08:37] <Seveas> BlueDevil, missed te question there
[08:37] <poningru> florg: you mean from the mic?
[08:37] <BlueDevil> Seveas: hello, are you maintaining a repo with freenx?
[08:37] <Seveas> yes I mainitain such a repository
[08:37] <Lord_Maynoth> gimme one strait answer and I will leave
[08:37] <florg> poningru: the line in
[08:37] <BlueDevil> the sun-jre package is inaccesible
[08:37] <jki> lord_maynoth: 42
[08:37] <Lord_Maynoth> do you guys think dapper drake will autodetect and automount ntfs partitions
[08:37] <Lord_Maynoth> yes or no
[08:37] <Dasnipa`> no
[08:37] <poningru> florg: yeah its sound recorder
[08:37] <Thunderguy> uh-oh md5sum didn't match on the cd I got in the mail :(
[08:37] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, breezy already does
[08:38] <BlueDevil> Seveas: the sun-jre package is inaccesible
[08:38] <Millenniumgroup> no
[08:38] <Lord_Maynoth> man sev dont tell me that
[08:38] <djk_> Seveas: i already told him that 20 mins ago....
[08:38] <BlueDevil> Seveas: 404 - forbidden
[08:38] <Seveas> BlueDevil, I know
[08:38] <Lord_Maynoth> I have installed it on 3 diff machines
[08:38] <florg> poningru: thx, i'll try it...
[08:38] <Lord_Maynoth> had to run a script on each one
[08:38] <Lord_Maynoth> to detect and set up ntfs partitions
[08:38] <poningru> florg: under sound&video in applications
[08:38] <BlueDevil> Seveas: on purpose?
[08:38] <Lord_Maynoth> amd/intel rigs
[08:38] <Seveas> BlueDevil, yup
[08:38] <florg> poningru: ok
[08:38] <gnomefreak> the only problem ive found with some of the extra repos so far is the gpg keys
[08:38] <phiqtion> djk_: wine is simulating windows 98 am i correct? so if i have a program like cakewalk kinetic it won't install in linux under wine correct?
[08:39] <phiqtion> djk_: because kinetic requires winxp
[08:39] <Lord_Maynoth> ok here is better question
[08:39] <Lord_Maynoth> IF
[08:39] <Seveas> phiqtion, winr can simulate 98 too
[08:39] <djk_> phiqtion: depends on what you set wine to, i think it starts at windows 2.0 and ends at 2003..
[08:39] <unimatrix9test> hello everyone
[08:39] <Lord_Maynoth> breezy is suposed to autodetect and automount partitions  why does it not do so?
[08:39] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, I already told you to take this elsewheere
[08:39] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[08:39] <poningru> Seveas: perhaps its time to consider kb Lord_Maynoth
[08:39] <phiqtion> djk_: how can i change it
[08:39] <poningru> just a suggestion
[08:40] <djk_> phiqtion: with winetools
[08:40] <djk_> phiqtion: there's an option somewhere..
[08:40] <Lord_Maynoth> sec just ban me for asking a legit question like you did last time for saying autopackage worked ok for me with gaim 1.5 under hoary
[08:40] <jag_fsf> so anybody know of somebody who has put together updated media packages with gstreamer 0.10? i'd love to try it out...
[08:40] <djk_> phiqtion: type winetools in a terminal and look around.
[08:40] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, that's your definition of OK
[08:40] <Seveas> but I remember now, you were here before
[08:41] <Seveas> being just as annoying
[08:41] <gnomefreak> damn Seveas  that was fast
[08:41] <phiqtion> djk_: im looking and dont see any option
[08:41] <phiqtion> djk_: ok got it bro
[08:41] <OneSeventeen> ProfQki: sorry, boss came in and had a question, that looks good, so would that basically modify my /network/interfaces file and add the new virtual interface with its own IP?
[08:41] <ddew|bofh> Hey
[08:41] <BlueDevil> Seveas: then could you please remove it from the list?
[08:41] <djk_> phiqtion: Modify Wine Configuration
[08:41] <Seveas> BlueDevil, no ;)
[08:42] <Jxpx> maxi
[08:42] <Seveas> BlueDevil, mind if I send you a private message?
[08:42] <ddew|bofh> Anyone here running breezy on a powermac g5?
[08:42] <OneSeventeen> ProfQki: and does that mean I could also do ifconfig eth0:2 <IP_ADDRESS> and ifconfig eth0:3 <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[08:42] <BlueDevil> Seveas: by all means..
[08:42] <BlueDevil> go ahead
[08:42] <Agiofws> root@active:/ # /etc/init.d/ssh start  ; * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server..  ...fail!    Inned some help please
[08:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Hi, I compiled ALSA 1.09 like I do everytime I install Hoary, but for some reason at the end of running alsaconf in spits out that the card id isn't valid, and it won't finish setting up the card
[08:43] <TTilus> I burned data DVD with couple of 1+Gb files.  It works fine on the machine it was burned.  Another Linux box having same make and age DVD drive shows only 8-11Mb files, otherwise things work.  Any suggestions what eats up the file tails?
[08:43] <bthornton> how would I find out which package contains the 'strings' command?  either that, or which package contains the 'strings' command?
[08:43] <Agiofws> root@active:/ # /etc/init.d/ssh start  ; * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server..  ...fail!    Inned some help please
[08:43] <Agiofws> ?
[08:43] <jag_fsf> Agiofws: what does /var/log/messages say?
[08:43] <TTilus> bronson: do you _have_ the strings already?
[08:43] <Seveas> Agiofws, and /var/log/daemon.log
[08:43] <Agiofws> root@active:/ # /etc/init.d/ssh start  ; * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server..  ...fail!    I need some help please how do you start an ssh server on ubuntu
[08:43] <ompaul> Agiofws, I was going to ask you but you asked twice so now I have to tell you to take it easy please
[08:43] <Chrizz> hi, hope some1 can help me.... running my ubuntu comp without monitor, just controlling it with VNC but the resolution is set to 640x480 and i can't put it any higher.... any1 got an idea??
[08:43] <TTilus> bronson: sorry, wrong guy
[08:43] <rosa> hi!is there a possiblity for installing CAMFROG into ubuntu that works?
[08:43] <Agiofws> ok  ompaul
[08:44] <TTilus> bthornton: do you _have_ the strings already?
[08:44] <bthornton> TTilus: Well, if I do, it's not in the $PATH.
[08:44] <UncleD> Can someone help me? Im trying to save my other box!! I need to know, if I boot up with the LiveCD can I do: mkdir /home/media  and then sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/media
[08:44] <TTilus> bthornton: if you do, which strings gives you the file
[08:44] <unimatrix9test> lots of questions...
[08:44] <TTilus> bthornton: search package containing file named strings
[08:44] <TTilus> bthornton: packages.debian.org
[08:45] <unimatrix9test> UncleD : mkdir /mnt/hda1
[08:45] <ompaul> Agiofws, did you check var log messages to see what it complained about? (like all the nice people asked?)
[08:45] <bthornton> TTilus: thanks
[08:45] <gnomefreak> packages.ubuntu.com works too :)
[08:45] <TTilus> gnomefreak: whoa, good to know, thnx
[08:45] <unimatrix9test> Then mount -t (filesystem) -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[08:46] <Agiofws> ompaul,  i think its workind
[08:46] <gnomefreak> yw was just thinking for the people that are using ubuntu not debian thats all
[08:46] <ompaul> Agiofws, ssh -C your_username@localhost
[08:46] <unimatrix9test> for example mount -t ntfs
[08:46] <ddew|bofh> Is there a channel for ppc users on ubuntu?
[08:46] <Agiofws> ompaul,  wjat does -C do again ?
[08:46] <jag_fsf> so anybody know of somebody who has put together updated media packages with gstreamer 0.10? i'd love to try it out...
[08:46] <Agiofws> compress?
[08:46] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[08:46] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.
[08:46] <UncleD> unimatrix9test - the error I get when I try that command is: You must be root to use this command (mount) - im using the LiveCD
[08:47] <ompaul> Agiofws, exactly
[08:47] <jag_fsf> UncleD : prefix the command with sudo
[08:47] <Agiofws> ok
[08:47] <unimatrix9test> UncleD ; sudo passwd
[08:47] <Agiofws> its faster ompaul ?
[08:47] <unimatrix9test> type new password
[08:47] <unimatrix9test> for root
[08:47] <unimatrix9test> :)
[08:47] <UncleD> so sudo passwd
[08:47] <UncleD> then enter a new pass?
[08:47] <UncleD> then su?
[08:48] <Seveas> UncleD, no
[08:48] <kbrooks> wait wait
[08:48] <Seveas> just 'sudo mount'
[08:48] <jag_fsf> or just sudo mount -t ...
[08:48] <Seveas> don't set a root password, you don't need it on Ubuntu
[08:48] <UncleD> so do this:
[08:48] <UncleD> sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1
[08:48] <UncleD> sudo mount -t (filesystem) -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[08:48] <ompaul> Agiofws, exactly
[08:48] <Seveas> UncleD, yeah
[08:48] <unimatrix9test> yeah ....
[08:48] <unimatrix9test> :P
[08:48] <UncleD> what actually goes in the place of (filesystem) ?
[08:48] <kbrooks> UncleD, there is NO password in root, and you dont need it except in special cases
[08:48] <jag_fsf> depends.
[08:48] <bthornton> This is a long shot, but would anybody here happen to have any experience with installing Maple 10 in Linux?
[08:49] <jag_fsf> uncled: where did the filesystem come from?
[08:49] <jag_fsf> uncled: windows? mac? linux? bsd?
[08:49] <UncleD> its linux
[08:49] <UncleD> what happened is its a rh8 box
[08:49] <jag_fsf> uncled: then try ext3
[08:49] <jag_fsf> uncled: if not, ext2
[08:49] <UncleD> and the library ld-2.2.93.so got destroyed
[08:49] <ni1s> Ive desided to leave Ubuntu behind me
[08:49] <kbrooks> UncleD, you'll want mount -t auto
[08:49] <UncleD> so the box wont even boot up
[08:49] <kbrooks> UncleD, use auto. mount will guess for you
[08:50] <Seveas> hehe, ld-*.so is indeed very neccessary
[08:50] <UncleD> sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ?
[08:50] <kbrooks> UncleD, yes
[08:50] <Millenniumgroup> kbrooks, now im confused
[08:50] <kbrooks> Millenniumgroup, about what?
[08:50] <ni1s> Ive got a nice custom kernel built, a new found love for enlightenment and the knowlage to leave it all behind me
[08:50] <Millenniumgroup> how do you get ROOT access without using sudo command? when ever I use sudo or sudo su (im always prompted for a password)
[08:51] <Kyral> Millenniumgroup: you don't
[08:51] <jag_fsf> millenniumgroup: you don't.
[08:51] <zon7> hi there
[08:51] <ni1s> No distro has enabled me to learn asmuch as Ubuntu did
[08:51] <clauz> heh
[08:51] <Kyral> there is a reason for this
[08:51] <clauz> claus@claus:~$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[08:51] <clauz> claus@claus:~$ cd /media/sda/
[08:51] <clauz> bash: cd: /media/sda/: Permission denied
[08:51] <kbrooks> Millenniumgroup, don't do so except in special cases
[08:51] <kbrooks> clauz, by design
[08:51] <FrdPrefct> Hello
[08:51] <zon7> i have a widescreen acer and I want to have widescreen suport in console mode. any help?
[08:51] <FrdPrefct> Where can I get the deb-make package for breezy?
[08:51] <Millenniumgroup> kbrooks,sorry m8 I missread your statement :)
[08:51] <unimatrix9test> wanto install ubuntu ,and no internet acces, are there iso' s for extra packages for ubuntu?
[08:51] <kbrooks> clauz, you created /media/sda1 as root
[08:51] <Millenniumgroup> im new, started usinb linux 2 months ago :)
[08:51] <Kyral> zon7: what is the resolution on the screen?
[08:51] <unimatrix9test> its for an school
[08:52] <zon7> 1280x800
[08:52] <ompaul> Millenniumgroup, you don't have to do sudo -i / -s / su that is not the way to use sudo - the way to do it is when a command needs root is invoke sudo - so you don't end up using root access for cd /some/path or pwd or something else
[08:52] <owner989> milleniumgroup thats no longer new lol
[08:52] <vbgunz> Millenniumgroup: You'll learn to love that password one day...!
[08:52] <|Waters|of|Hell|> I've never used Ubuntu before :(
[08:52] <Kyral> Millenniumgroup: do what I do
[08:52] <Kyral> make bash aliases for you most often sudo'd commands (Apt-Get comes to mind)
[08:52] <ompaul> Millenniumgroup, sudo is ohh 24 or 25 years old at this stage
[08:52] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[08:52] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.
[08:52] <gnomefreak> |Waters|of|Hell|,  you shoudl try it sometime
[08:53] <ompaul> gnomefreak, s/should/must :-)))
[08:53] <Millenniumgroup> owner, well ok ;)   hmm I see ompaul...
[08:53] <unimatrix9test> are there iso's for extra packages for ubuntu acces to all sources without internet?
[08:53] <clauz> kbrooks, no
[08:53] <Millenniumgroup> interesting
[08:53] <FrdPrefct> Anyone know where I can get the deb-make package?
[08:53] <Chrizz> hi, hope some1 can help me.... running my ubuntu comp without monitor, just controlling it with VNC but the resolution is set to 640x480 and i can't put it any higher.... any1 got an idea??
[08:53] <|Waters|of|Hell|> gnome, how did you make your text yellow on my screen ?
[08:53] <poningru> unimatrix9test: its in the works
[08:53] <poningru> unimatrix9test: not availble yet
[08:53] <owner989> |Waters|of|Hell| you should try ubuntu you wont be disappointed
[08:53] <navarone> FrdPrefct, I think you need build-essentials
[08:53] <kbrooks> clauz, sudo mkdir /foo # this does
[08:53] <unimatrix9test> ok thanks for the info
[08:53] <gnomefreak> unimatrix9test,  you cant access the sources without a net connection to get packages
[08:53] <unimatrix9test> when is it due?
[08:53] <ompaul> |Waters|of|Hell|, like this where I use your name ????
[08:54] <zon7> kyral: Any help?
[08:54] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, incorrect
[08:54] <clauz> kbrooks, ntfs mount specific
[08:54] <Kyral> Well I dunno about widescreen
[08:54] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, may be deb-src on the cd
[08:54] <halibut> Are there any gmail + firefox1.5 users who would like to test my ubuntu skin for gmail?
[08:54] <owner989> chrizz what video card do you have
[08:54] <Kyral> but to force the resolution
[08:54] <gnomefreak> |Waters|of|Hell|, i didnt its your irc client
[08:54] <Millenniumgroup> tx for the info ompaul, kyral,jag_fsf and vbunz :)
[08:54] <gnomefreak> kbrooks,  when he stated sources i was thinking sources no tthe cd source
[08:54] <|Waters|of|Hell|> gnomefreak: ohd
[08:54] <|Waters|of|Hell|> oh*
[08:54] <ompaul> Millenniumgroup, join the big happy club :-)
[08:55] <Kyral> You'd have to lookup the hexcode for the resolution which I have no idea what it is
[08:55] <|Waters|of|Hell|> Sorry can you tell, noob here.
[08:55] <navarone> |Waters|of|Hell|, your client indicates a line with your nick in it by colouring it a shade you specify in preferences
[08:55] <Millenniumgroup> :D
[08:55] <Kyral> I only know that 1200x1024 is 0x31B
[08:55] <william_> hey guys, what program should I use to burn a .bin and a .cue file??
[08:55] <zon7> ok
[08:55] <zon7> gonna search over the net
[08:55] <unimatrix9test> k3b
[08:55] <Chrizz> (owner989): nvidia geforce 2 mx, drivers installed
[08:55] <|Waters|of|Hell|> I'm using Irssi :)
[08:55] <Kyral> zon7: I believe the Gentoo Wiki has a table
[08:55] <owner989> did you try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg chrizz
[08:55] <korhalf> william_, k3b
[08:56] <poningru> william_: either k3b or gnomebaker
[08:56] <clauz> kbrooks, umase=0222 =)
[08:56] <|Waters|of|Hell|> Don't ask why
[08:56] <william_> well gnome baker wont let me do .bin and .cue
[08:56] <william_> only .iso I think
[08:56] <UncleD> what is the standard floppy /dev/fd* for ubuntu using the LiveCD?
[08:56] <poningru> william_: hmm yeah k3b then
[08:56] <FrdPrefct> navarone : Already got that installed
[08:56] <Seveas> william_, bchunk can convert it to iso for you
[08:57] <poningru> wait why doesnt gnomebaker have .bin/.cue support?
[08:57] <poningru> thats lame
[08:57] <Kyral> because k3b is better
[08:57] <poningru> its the gnome answer to burning
[08:57] <william_> ahh I got it.. I had tried k3b before but it gave me some cdrdao error but I just tried it again
[08:57] <william_> and it works
[08:57] <unimatrix9test> lame is an other package
[08:57] <unimatrix9test> lol
[08:57] <Seveas> poningru, according to william_ not :)
[08:57] <Seveas> unimatrix9test, :p
[08:57] <Kyral> Still, k3b is better
[08:57] <william_> yeah it only said .iso for burning images
[08:58] <Kyral> I run Fluxbox and still use k3b
[08:58] <unimatrix9test> i run gnome with k3b no problem here
[08:58] <Seveas> !help
[08:58] <Tony_Sidaway> Help message
[08:59] <unimatrix9test> is there any one here that use ubuntu in an primary school?
[08:59] <FrdPrefct> anyone else have suggestions as to where I can get deb-make for breezy?
[08:59] <Kyral> Learn how to make a Debian package the right way
[08:59] <Seveas> !find deb-make
[08:59] <Seveas> ah crap, the thing is gone
[09:00] <poningru> where's Ubotu?
[09:00] <Seveas> -ENOCLUE
[09:00] <Seveas> he and cafuego are AWOL
[09:00] <Chrizz> owner989 nothin seems to happen....
[09:00] <ompaul> unimatrix9test, have a look at gcompris and edubuntu as a starting point
[09:01] <navarone> gcompris is quite good
[09:01] <UncleD> unimatrix9test - is /dev/fd0 the floppy drive on ubuntu for LiveCD?
[09:01] <flodine> does anyone have arwiz font installed on breezy? need help
[09:01] <unimatrix9test> yes
[09:01] <flodine> artwiz
[09:01] <owner989> chrizz it should do
[09:02] <owner989> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:02] <owner989> in terminal
[09:02] <Chrizz> terminal does nothin
[09:02] <Chrizz> yep, but now nothin :S
[09:02] <owner989> you are using breezy
[09:02] <owner989> 5.10
[09:02] <Chrizz> yes
[09:03] <vbgunz> what is the command to upgrade cleanly from Hoary 5.04 to Breezy 5.10? Is it it sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:03] <veryfunny> is it possible that my DVD burner dosent have a driver?
[09:03] <veryfunny> and thats why it wont mount anything?
[09:04] <ompaul> veryfunny, put a CD into it and see if it sees it
[09:04] <veryfunny> it doesnt see any discs
[09:04] <unimatrix9test> an data dvd
[09:04] <ompaul> veryfunny, is it wired up correctly?
[09:04] <unimatrix9test> not an movie
[09:04] <veryfunny> data dvd
[09:04] <veryfunny> let me try that
[09:04] <ompaul> veryfunny, I am suggesting a music CD
[09:05] <Chrizz> owner989 can i maybe force a resolution?
[09:05] <veryfunny> it is wired as the amster, with IDE jumpers in the master slot
[09:05] <veryfunny> Audio Cds dont work
[09:05] <chechu> Hello,Help Spanish ?
[09:05] <veryfunny> DVD movies neither
[09:05] <unimatrix9test> data?
[09:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell vbgunz about upgrade
[09:05] <ompaul> veryfunny, so it sees nothing
[09:05] <gnomefreak> :(
[09:05] <veryfunny> ompaul nope
[09:05] <gnomefreak> who killed ubotu??? :(
[09:06] <chrisx1> Does amsn work on ubuntu
[09:06] <chrisx1> ?
[09:06] <owner989> chrizz you can manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:06] <gnomefreak> chechu,  spanish is at #ubuntu-es
[09:06] <veryfunny> ompaul it is a phillips
[09:06] <vbgunz> !upgrade
[09:06] <chechu> gnomefreak,  thank you
[09:06] <gnomefreak> vbgunz, ubotu isnt here or broken
[09:06] <vbgunz> gnomefreak: yup ubotu is dead...
[09:07] <veryfunny> ompaul model number DVD8301/44 i think
[09:07] <chrisx1> Does amsn or Kopete work on ubuntu
[09:07] <vbgunz> isn't it simple or no? I thought sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:07] <unimatrix9test> veryfunny : what does dmesg say?
[09:07] <Kyral> chrisx1: yes
[09:07] <gnomefreak> chrisx1, yes both do
[09:07] <unimatrix9test> amsn or kopete , use gaim?
[09:07] <Kyral> chrisx1: why wouldn't they :P
[09:07] <unimatrix9test> its already there...
[09:07] <phyburn> hey im having trouble talking with my drive i keep getting I/O errors
[09:07] <chrisx1> gaim is crap
[09:07] <gnomefreak> i personally rather use gaim but thats just me
[09:08] <chrisx1> dp dnt work:(
[09:08] <chrisx1> lolz
[09:08] <ompaul> veryfunny, do this >>cat /etc/fstab<< and tell me is there more than one entry for /media/cdrom
[09:08] <unimatrix9test> there is an platform independent amsn, so if all fails
[09:08] <unimatrix9test> you can use that...
[09:08] <chrisx1> ok
[09:08] <unimatrix9test> google amsn
[09:08] <phyburn> hey im having trouble talking with my drive i keep getting I/O errors and wanted to know if there was some reason that having linux already on the drive that it would mess up fdisk to where it could not read my drive and wont let me edit it
[09:08] <veryfunny> dmesg says >>> http://pastebin.com/451348
[09:09] <phiqtion> im trying to cd in the wine program files folder. but terminal stops in Program and does not read Program Files. terminal doesnt read spaces?
[09:09] <unimatrix9test> i used it an lot on an live knoppix cd
[09:09] <unimatrix9test> then run amsn from usb stick..
[09:09] <owner989> phiq did you run winecfg
[09:09] <veryfunny> ompaul there are two /media/cdrom S
[09:09] <Seveas> phiqtion, cd Program\ Files
[09:09] <phiqtion> owner989: i have wintools. that is for?
[09:09] <veryfunny> ompaul one is hdd the other hdc
[09:09] <owner989> i recommend running winecfg
[09:09] <owner989> and autodetect drives
[09:10] <varsendagger> hey has anyone gotten e17 working for ubuntu?
[09:10] <veryfunny> ompaul i have tried the fstab route to no avail
[09:10] <TTilus> I cant get DMA enabled on my dvd-drive.  Web tells me I propably dont have support for my chipset loaded.  How do I manage kernel modules in Ubuntu?  In Debian I use modconf, but it looks like it is not workin (doesnt list any modules).
[09:10] <ompaul> veryfunny, fstab route?
[09:10] <veryfunny> ompaul and thats what leads me to drivers
[09:10] <veryfunny> ompaul, frogzoo had me retype the fstab, etc
[09:11] <veryfunny> ompaul that didnt help
[09:11] <veryfunny> ompaul still sees nothing
[09:11] <varsendagger> TTilus, i don't know
[09:11] <chrisb> anyone know where I can dump "mknod /dev/i2c-4 c 89 4" so my keyboard light works every time I boot the machine? Right now I have to do it each time I boot...
[09:11] <CarinArr> hi, i get error messages from ld saying it can't find -lGlu.. I seem to have the mesa stuff installed.. is there anything else i need to do?
[09:12] <ompaul> reboot it and see if it is there if it is not then it is not detected which is very strange, I would pull the box apart and make sure it was not on cable select - even try booting from the dvd with your livecd
[09:12] <veryfunny> ompaul the very bottom of this dmesg has a lot of FAILs in it might that be the culprit drive  >> link ::  http://pastebin.com/451348
[09:13] <bushito> how can i pass from ubuntu to kubuntu???
[09:13] <veryfunny> ompaul it is not on cable select i know that
[09:13] <owner989> you could just install kde bushito
[09:13] <N6REJ> what would be the best way to print to another printer on the lan when both systems are running ubuntu?
[09:13] <veryfunny> ompaul i just rebooted before coming on here so...
[09:13] <gnomefreak> veryfunny, is that with a cd rom in it?
[09:14] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[09:14] <ompaul> try the eject command
[09:14] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.
[09:14] <veryfunny> gnomefreak reboot with the live cd in?
[09:14] <navarone> bushito, install kde-desktop and then you can change thru "sessions" when you log in
[09:14] <eedge> I swear I'm invisable :P
[09:14] <bushito> hehehe but is the source package of ubuntu same as kubuntu, i mean if i dont got to change the apt-get source file list?
[09:14] <eedge> lol
[09:14] <gnomefreak> veryfunny,  the errors are with or without cd rom in the drive?
[09:14] <veryfunny> ompaul eject opens the drive
[09:14] <ompaul> very is there anything in there?
[09:14] <veryfunny> gnome freak that dmesg was with a cd in
[09:15] <veryfunny> ompaul yes an audio cd
[09:15] <gnomefreak> veryfunny,  try another cd for the hell of it see if you get errors like that
[09:15] <ompaul> veryfunny, please try a different audiocd
[09:15] <veryfunny> ompaul any requests? =)
[09:15] <phyburn> does any one know what i can do about `unable to read /dev/hda` what should i do
[09:15] <ompaul> veryfunny, then launch applications sound cdplayer
[09:16] <gnomefreak> whitezombie if you got it :)
[09:16] <bwlang> phyburn: try again with sudo ?
[09:17] <veryfunny> ompaul Foreigner in the drive cdplayer says no disc
[09:17] <rubem> hi there
[09:17] <phyburn> bwlang i think its in root i see the # sign
[09:17] <rubem> which msn clients do you use?:
[09:17] <ompaul> veryfunny, I am stumped
[09:17] <phyburn> bwlang im booting off the CD it does not even have sudo
[09:17] <rubem> i'm looking for a good msn client
[09:18] <UncleD> use centericq
[09:18] <veryfunny> ompaul you are not the first one to be
[09:18] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[09:18] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.
[09:18] <varsendagger> rubem i use gaim,
[09:18] <navarone> rubem, I think gaim can handle msn...? But don't quote me on that
[09:18] <veryfunny> ompaul i am going to reboot with livecd in
[09:18] <rubem> gaim is not good, imho
[09:18] <bwlang> phyburn - didn't know it was booted from cd... what does fdisk -l /dev/hda say?
[09:18] <varsendagger> hey is there some kind of trillian for linux?
[09:19] <navarone> I was just thinking the same thing varsendagger
[09:19] <Seveas> varsendagger, gaim
[09:19] <bwlang> phyburn: also do a dmesg | grep hda to be sure that the drive was detected
[09:19] <phyburn> bwlang i hole bunch of nothing lol
[09:19] <Seveas> trillian is -- scary
[09:19] <bwlang> varsendagger: gaim...
[09:19] <troinc> i'm using gaim's jabber side to handle my google talk, but it won't stay connected more 10mins
[09:19] <rubem> do you use amns?
[09:20] <bwlang> phyburn: so you have no parition table...
[09:20] <troinc> ?
[09:20] <pder> I TRY THE UBUNTU AND IT ARE DUMB IT DO NOT SUPPORT COMPUTER BECAUSE IT ARE DUMB
[09:20] <phyburn> bwlang : ok it just spammed a hole spew of stuff
[09:20] <phyburn> bwland: the last one was buffer I/O error on device hda, logic block 14
[09:20] <bushito> hello
[09:21] <troinc> howdy
[09:21] <eedge> lo
[09:21] <varsendagger> does gaim allow me to be signed into multiple messengers?
[09:21] <troinc> yep
[09:21] <Seveas> varsendagger, yes
[09:21] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[09:21] <varsendagger> well then it gets my thumb up
[09:21] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.
[09:21] <bwlang> phyburn: hmm sounds like maybe a bad drive? try running the drive check from the manufacturer...
[09:21] <phyburn> bwlang: yea im trying to partition it it ran once and then just crashed on me and now from then on its not working
[09:21] <bushito> hey i got a kubuntu CD, and it gots KDE, how can i install the package without having to download it?, cuase i select it to install and it starts downloading but duh i got it already oin the cd cant it just install it??
[09:22] <phyburn> bwlang: ok
[09:22] <Seveas> bushito, insert the cd, sudo apt-cd add, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:22] <bthornton> What's a good editor that will let me edit large (i.e. >100M) files without needing load the whole file?  I'm trying to edit an installer script stub on a large installation binary.
[09:22] <eedge> Erm, am I like not voiced or something?
[09:22] <Chrizz> owner989 http://pastebin.com/451363 thats my conf but bigger resolutions are alrdy in there...
[09:22] <eedge> heh
[09:23] <Seveas> eedge, no
[09:23] <Kyral> bushito: the installer downloads the packages if it detects an usable internet conn
[09:23] <Seveas> well, not anymore :)
[09:24] <bwlang> bthornton: sed? dunno if the graphical editors load partials... - probably emacs does...
[09:24] <eedge> o... k... lol
[09:24] <_tim__> i just installed ubuntu on a new computer and now it doesnt work and now we have to throw out the computer and my dada is mad cause we just bought it and now it is ruined please help
[09:24] <[[kon] > hi
[09:24] <bwlang> _tim__: are you kidding?
[09:24] <bthornton> bwland: yeah I've so far tried vi and gedit, and they both want to load the whole thing
[09:24] <Seveas> eedge, but if mii-{tool,diag} say you have no link, then you have no link
[09:24] <JayLv99> hey
[09:24] <eedge> but I do, clearly, becuase I'm talking to you right now through that said link.
[09:25] <Chousuke> _tim__: the computer is fine.
[09:25] <JayLv99> does anyone know how to disable wall or write on server for a network?
[09:25] <Chousuke> oh, bleh :P
[09:25] <eedge> which is what's confusing me...
[09:25] <[[kon] > im trying to do a non local vnc connection, i have the server ip and it doesnt seem to work
[09:25] <Seveas> Chousuke, his computer is, he is not
[09:25] <kbrooks> Seveas, who did you ban
[09:25] <eedge> Really all I'm trying to get to work in file sharing from the windows station to the linux client.
[09:25] <Seveas> kbrooks, that was pder again
[09:25] <troinc> (kon) do yoiu have vnc server on the other machine
[09:25] <kbrooks> Seveas, who is pder? care to show me
[09:25] <Seveas> eedge, all the switch/network card lights are burning?
[09:26] <Seveas> kbrooks, /lastlog pder
[09:26] <bushito> Kyral, but how can i make it get it from the cd already tried the sudo apt-cd install but it doesnt got the apt-cd what can i do?? xD
[09:26] <Pballer82> hello i'm  currently installing on my other comp, should i make the partition logical or primary. I'm installing linux as a second os and i want to keep windows xp intact
[09:27] <veryfunny> ompaul it didn't boot the live CD
[09:27] <themuffenmann> livecd for ubuntu?
[09:27] <veryfunny> yes
[09:27] <themuffenmann> ah..i dunno..never made one myself
[09:27] <themuffenmann> only slackware
[09:27] <Pballer82> hey which type of partiton should i make on my HD, i have unallocated space should it be primary or logical?
[09:27] <sbk> Have a silly question. Assuming there isn't a runaway memory-hogging process acitve, will adding more swap space reduce the odds of the oom-killer being triggered?
[09:27] <kilgost> bonsoir tt le monde
[09:27] <Seveas> Pballer82, linux does not care :O)
[09:28] <[[kon] > pballer82, logical for swap space, primary for space
[09:28] <Pballer82> kk
[09:28] <kilgost> oups... sorry ...
[09:28] <veryfunny> my dvd burner doesnt see discs
[09:28] <ompaul> veryfunny, well now that is strange I would suggest posting that model number to the mailing list with a does anyone else have an issue with that (after first checking for such a post) then if no one says they actually have one consider it a bug
[09:28] <Seveas> kilgost, #ubuntu-fr svp ;)
[09:28] <kilgost> yes yes sry !
[09:28] <kilgost> bye..
[09:28] <veryfunny> ompaul where is this list?
[09:28] <veryfunny> !mailinglist
[09:28] <Seveas> veryfunny, ubotu is gone
[09:29] <ompaul> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users is the list
[09:29] <veryfunny> darn
[09:29] <gnomefreak> i miss him :(
[09:29] <veryfunny> !long_live_ubotu
[09:29] <veryfunny> =)
[09:29] <ompaul> veryfunny,  you asked me and did not wait a minute - please if you ask slow down and allow others get the answer
[09:30] <veryfunny> ompaul, i was just checking to see if umbotu knew
[09:30] <veryfunny> ompaul, sorry
[09:31] <ompaul> you can ask me or the bot - but there is no bot so please wait - the bot is dead long live the bot!
[09:31] <singinmatt13> schroger's cat is dead too
[09:32] <gnomefreak> is someone re-programming ubotu or did we lose him for good?
[09:32] <veryfunny> many deaths =(
[09:32] <ompaul> singinmatt13, you lifted the lid? or are you just guessing based on duration?
[09:34] <selutha> i just installed a new video and sound card in to ubuntu, x wont start because the driver needs to be changed, what is the wizard thing to resetup sound and video on ubuntu? i could make the xorg file but i think the wiz would be much easier
[09:34] <Kyral> selutha: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:34] <selutha> Kyral, great thanks
[09:34] <singinmatt13> ompaul, I'm judgin on the fact that I killed the cat, and my name is Curiosity
[09:34] <veryfunny> is there an easier way to search the mailing list? or must i muttle through millions of pages
[09:35] <bwlang> veryfunny: gmane may have your mailing list...
[09:35] <ompaul> veryfunny, well I would use a search engine
[09:35] <veryfunny> bwlang ? huh?
[09:35] <veryfunny> ompaul duh wow i am a little slow today
[09:36] <ompaul> veryfunny, put in your model number and the list name and one or two other things like ubuntu with a + and see what happens
[09:36] <bwlang> veryfunny: gmane.com
[09:36] <ompaul> veryfunny, if you join that list be aware that it is very very busy but that is not for bug reporting just exploring to find out if it is you or a bug
[09:39] <veryfunny> ompaul i tried a couple searches and found nothing
[09:39] <veryfunny> i will mail later
[09:40] <ompaul> veryfunny, join the list send in your mail - read the others to see what the norm is for a request - then pop yours in and wait a day or so
[09:40] <ompaul> veryfunny, nothing in 3 days go for a bugreport so you want to know if anyone has one of these working okay
[09:41] <{aaron}> hi guys, what, if any, is the default JVM for Ubuntu...GCJ I'm guessing?
[09:43] <psycho> hi everybody !
[09:44] <lukus001> Can somone tell me what command i need to type in the terminal to locate myself into the root directory?
[09:44] <bwlang> lukus001: cd /
[09:44] <bwlang> lukus001: or if you mean root's home dir  cd /root
[09:45] <lukus001> bwlang, perfect, Thanks!
[09:45] <kbrooks> {aaron}, yes gcj
[09:45] <{aaron}> kbrooks: thanks
[09:46] <xiaogil> will we have mysql 5 and PHP5 in Drapper ?
[09:46] <poningru> when do they finish dev?
[09:46] <ompaul> xiaogil, april
[09:47] <ompaul> xiaogil, sorry that was a don't know
[09:47] <ompaul> poningru, april
[09:47] <ompaul> got mixed up
[09:47] <poningru> omaru: oh hehe I meant when do php and mysql finsih dev
[09:47] <poningru> not dapper
[09:48] <lukus001> Im trying to install this app http://www.3delight.com/renderman_download.htm < install intrsructions, but i get to the command "unsetenv DELIGHT" which is an unknown command...???
[09:48] <ompaul> xiaogil, watch the mailing list http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/dapper-changes
[09:48] <BlueDevil> lukus001: what shell are you using?
[09:48] <xiaogil> ompaul: thanks
[09:48] <gnomefreak> <<loves bash
[09:48] <lukus001> BlueDevil just the terminal from the main menu
[09:49] <BlueDevil> lukus001: you can try replacing unsetenv with unset
[09:49] <phu> does anyone know if KDE 3.5 is going to be backported to ubuntu 5.4?
[09:49] <Watje> Does anybody know if there is a program to see how much bandwith each proccess use?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> thats gnome terminal also bash i think
[09:49] <BlueDevil> lukus001: unsetenv is a (t)csh command
[09:50] <gnomefreak> 5.4?
[09:50] <lukus001> BlueDevil, ok ill give it a try, thanks
[09:50] <Anoop> hi
[09:50] <BlueDevil> lukus001: yw
[09:50] <gnomefreak> phu,  i doubt it
[09:50] <poningru> phu: no dont think so
[09:50] <Anoop> can anybody help me with some ubuntu prob i am having with my laptop
[09:50] <gearry> I am trying to add the multiverse repository using the instructions from the wiki, but they don't seem accurate
[09:50] <Kyral> shoot
[09:50] <Kyral> gearry: look in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:50] <gnomefreak> phu,  maybe if lucky they will backport it for 5.10 but also doubt it
[09:50] <Anoop> kyral u want to
[09:50] <SupIAmMike> Select count(ID) as countOfBar2 FROM FOO WHERE BAR="1"; Select count(ID) as countOfBar2 FROM FOO WHERE BAR="2"
[09:50] <gearry> the multiverse repository is not listed in my repository list
[09:50] <BlueDevil> Anoop: please state your problem
[09:51] <phu> gnomefreak: 5.4 == hoary
[09:51] <SupIAmMike> can i combine those 2 selects?
[09:51] <gearry> Kyral: ok, I will look there
[09:51] <lukus001> BlueDevil, if its a Csh command, would that mean the enxt command "source .3delight_csh" isnt gonna work?
[09:51] <Kyral> gearry: add it onto the lines that say universe
[09:51] <phu> it's already ported to 5.10
[09:51] <gnomefreak> phu,  yes i know
[09:51] <Anoop> ok...i installed breezy badger(5.10) in my toshiba m45-S355 laptop
[09:51] <Ishotweb> can someone help me out? trying to run a program with Wine and it's telling me "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded."
[09:51] <Seveas> SupIAmMike, WHERE BAR = "1" OR BAR = "2"
[09:51] <BlueDevil> lukus001: source is a valid bash command too
[09:51] <gnomefreak> phu, kde 3.5 isnt on breezy
[09:51] <Seveas> SupIAmMike, but highly offtopic in here
[09:51] <SupIAmMike> Seveas, but that will just give me 1 count of that
[09:52] <Anoop> what happend is while installed the dhcp couldn't configure my networking thing
[09:52] <SupIAmMike> it wont give me the counts seperately
[09:52] <Neurosis> I need help finding my root password for my ubuntu machine.  i havent been able to login to it since i have installed it
[09:52] <BlueDevil> SupIAmMike: try using join
[09:52] <gearry> Kyral: OK I will try that
[09:52] <SupIAmMike> oh whoops im not in #mysql
[09:52] <SupIAmMike> sorry i will leave
[09:52] <BlueDevil> Neurosis: sudo passwd root
[09:52] <Anoop> but when the installation was over and i activated both ethernet card and wireless both started working
[09:52] <Kyral> lol SupIAmMike
[09:52] <phu> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[09:52] <gnomefreak> phu,  i pretty sure they stopped backporting things for 5.04
[09:53] <Anoop> blue devil r u tracking my message?
[09:53] <lukus001> BlueDevil, thanks for the help =)
[09:53] <Neurosis> thank you very much blue
[09:53] <krayzie> hy yall
[09:53] <phu> so, yes, it's available for breezy
[09:53] <BlueDevil> Anoop: hold on, trying :)
[09:53] <krayzie> im new 2 this thing and i need some help pls
[09:53] <Anoop> k
[09:53] <Anoop> i see u r in demand
[09:54] <BlueDevil> Anoop: up to date :)
[09:54] <krayzie> i have a sb live 24 bit and i cant hear the sound
[09:54] <gnomefreak> phu, its avilable for kubuntu breezy not sure if for ubuntu breezy asnd if it was backported for ubuntu 5.10 thaqn 5.045 more than likely wont get it
[09:54] <krayzie> can sum1 help me_
[09:54] <Anoop> after the first reboot everything gets messed up and the during the boot process it gets stuck in config network interface
[09:54] <BlueDevil> Anoop: however it should have been able to detect the nics on install if it detected them after the install was finished...
[09:54] <SWAT> how can I burn a DVD with 1 file of 4GB? (so probably use UDF). K3b won't work (it can't 'add' the file, because it's too big...) Help?
[09:54] <Anoop> and then when i log in thats it nothing works
[09:55] <Anoop> i tried reinstalling and same old thing
[09:55] <gismo1> hi, i've problems with playing an avi-video-file with totem, he says something like: 'could not determine the type of the data stream'.. i installed all needed plugins.. :(
[09:55] <Anoop> works for the first time then gone
[09:55] <funktown> SWAT -- 4GB is way too big for a dvd file on cd.. try to lower the quality and encoding a tad
[09:55] <Anoop> i don't know why it can't configure while installing
[09:55] <BlueDevil> Anoop: please "cat /etc/network/interfaces" in a query to me
[09:55] <SWAT> funktown, I'm using DVD's atm (so it's fine)
[09:56] <Anoop> hold on
[09:56] <gismo1> can anyone help me?
[09:56] <funktown> ooh.. i always put them on cds.. im cheap =P
[09:56] <bor> SWAT: use mkisofs with -udf option
[09:56] <SWAT> DVD are cheaper (if you calculate price per GB)
[09:56] <noen> hi - can anybody explain how I can install programs on my new ubuntu system (I am a total linux newbee)
[09:56] <chrisx1> how do i change time usin ubuntu timeserver in terminal?
[09:56] <Mazin> go to the synaptic package manager
[09:56] <SWAT> bor, thanks, I'll give it a try. Then burn with dvdrecord?
[09:56] <Kyral> chrisx1: youmean NTP?
[09:56] <phoul> Hey im trying to get gtkgnutella working
[09:56] <gnomefreak> noen, use synaptic package manager
[09:56] <Mazin> to install progs, should be in the toolbar at top
[09:56] <phoul> But when i search up something nothing happens
[09:56] <bor> SWAT: yepp
[09:56] <phoul> any ideas?
[09:56] <chrisx1> Kyral, Yes
[09:57] <Kyral> chrisx1: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[09:57] <funktown> phout.. make sure you're connected
[09:57] <phoul> How?
[09:57] <Mazin> noen, then search for progs and mark them for download
[09:57] <bor> SWAT: somelike easier is 'growisofs'
[09:57] <chrisx1> ty
[09:57] <Anoop> mapping hotplug script grep map eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet dhcp auto lo auto eth0
[09:57] <funktown> see the bar on the left side of the interface? labelled "Connections" ?
[09:57] <phoul> ohh funktown in the bottom left it shows im connected
[09:57] <Anoop> blue for the time being i have disabled the wireless thing
[09:57] <phoul> Any other ideas?
[09:57] <Anoop> i want the ethernet to work first
[09:57] <bor> SWAT: you need only to do growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video /path/to/file
[09:57] <noen> ok one moment Ill try that
[09:57] <Anoop> and i am at my work place
[09:57] <funktown> phoul.. when you search, make sure you click your query in the search box to view the results
[09:57] <gismo1> here's the output when i'm starting it with mplayer http://freebsd6.homeunix.org/~kacper/output
[09:58] <Anoop> it has secured wireless which i have no access
[09:58] <bor> eh, s,dvd-vide,udf, of course
[09:58] <Anoop> just 30mins before i worked then one reboot everything gone
[09:58] <phoul> Did that to funk
[09:58] <BlueDevil> anoop: ifconfig eth0 in a pm
[09:58] <phoul> in the top right
[09:58] <phoul> It says
[09:58] <phoul> You appear to be firewalled or somethin
[09:59] <Techie_dude> How do i open a program in WIne?
[09:59] <neighborlee> hi..has anyone tried the livecd/installer and found getting livecd enviornment was a vvvvery long boot ?? ( want to make sure its not my cdrom drive)
[09:59] <noen> mazin -  I am looking for a pgp version .... no search results
[09:59] <Anoop> blue i have only one internet connection now
[09:59] <oggah> Hello, I got breezy installed (standardinstall) and later icewm installed. How do I change resolution in IceWM?
[09:59] <BlueDevil> neighborlee: yes, it's a long process
[09:59] <funktown> phoul > try to disable your firewall
[09:59] <Anoop> so i can't ifconfig now
[09:59] <phoul> Funk how do i disable the wirewall
[09:59] <neighborlee> BlueDevil, ok thx for verify
[09:59] <Anoop> r u from america?
[09:59] <BlueDevil> neighborlee: yw
[09:59] <phoul> The only one im awear i have is on my router and i would need to open a port you cant disbale it
[09:59] <Anoop> i will connect in the evening from home
[09:59] <funktown> phoul > no idea, depends on which one you're running.. or if its a hardware device
[09:59] <Anoop> and i can do what u want
[10:00] <ortner> Anyone knows a good alternative to macromedia dreamwave for linux?
[10:00] <Anoop> i am really desperate now
[10:00] <Anoop> i need ur help
[10:00] <BlueDevil> Anoop: why can't you show me ifconfig output?
[10:00] <funktown> phoul > try telling gtk-gnutella to use that port.. the option should be somewhere in the preferences
[10:00] <Anoop> k
[10:00] <phoul> funk like on suse i got limewire running
[10:00] <Anoop> hold on
[10:00] <Techie_dude> How do  i open a program in wine?
[10:00] <oggah> Anyone knows how to change resolution in iceWM?
[10:00] <Anoop> i am in a diff computer blue
[10:00] <Kyral> Techie_dude: wine <path to exe>
[10:00] <oggah> I want 1024, because the refreshrate is high then.
[10:00] <Anoop> i have to type a lot
[10:00] <funktown> ortner > try nvu
[10:00] <navarone> phoul...you can enable pseudo udp node as well
[10:00] <Kyral> oggah: you have to do it in Xorg.conf
[10:00] <Techie_dude> do i need to use sudo
[10:00] <Kyral> I think
[10:00] <BlueDevil> ortner: try quanta
[10:01] <Kyral> Techie_dude: I don;t think so
[10:01] <BlueDevil> Anoop: can't paste?
[10:01] <oggah> Kyral, I guess so. What should I change?
[10:01] <phoul> navarone, how do i do that?
[10:01] <ortner> BlueDevil: , funktown thanks :)
[10:01] <Anoop> two diff computers
[10:01] <phoul> and what will it do
[10:01] <Kyral> oggah: what do you want to do?
[10:01] <navarone> phoul>should be a check box on Gnutella-net tab
[10:01] <BlueDevil> Anoop: ah, sorry
[10:01] <Anoop> let me type
[10:01] <BlueDevil> Anoop: then just check if the nic has an address assigned to it
[10:01] <Anoop> link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:D1:24:A3:17
[10:01] <oggah> Kyral, the resolution is right now 1280x1024, but I want 1024x768.
[10:02] <navarone> phoul>enable udp...I have it enabled and use deafult firewall settings no prob
[10:02] <Kyral> oggah: I'd disable the higher res
[10:02] <Kyral> either way you are going to have to edit Xorg.conf
[10:02] <Anoop> inet6 addr: fe80::2a0:d1ff:fe24:a317/64 scope:link
[10:02] <phoul> navarone,  its enabled....
[10:02] <oggah> Just remove them from the Subsection "Display" ?
[10:02] <phoul> But i still see no  results
[10:02] <Kyral> ...or that
[10:02] <Anoop> blue it gets assigned the time its working
[10:02] <navarone> phoul try restarting gnutella now
[10:02] <Anoop> after the reboot everything gone
[10:02] <Anoop> thats the most weired part
[10:03] <noen> @ menzin ???
[10:03] <Anoop> how can it work for once that means the drivers are installed correctly
[10:03] <phoul> nope nothing
[10:03] <Anoop> but i don't know what goes on during reboot?????
[10:03] <phoul> Still no search results
[10:03] <Mazin> oh, sorry noen
[10:03] <Mazin> I'm not sure, but PGP might not be in the UBuntu repositories
[10:03] <ortner> BlueDevil: what was the name of the program agian?
[10:04] <navarone> phoul...how many ultrapeers are you connected to?
[10:04] <phoul> navarone, still nothing
[10:04] <chrisx1> How Do I Get Modules From Perl?
[10:04] <noen> so I have to download it manualy
[10:04] <phoul> ultrapeers?
[10:04] <SWAT> bor, why do I need to use the -dvd-video tag?
[10:04] <phoul> what do you mean
[10:04] <Mazin> you'll either have to add a repository, dl the rpm, or compile it from source
[10:04] <Mazin> wait, i assume you mean GPG
[10:04] <BlueDevil> ortner: quanta
[10:04] <oggah> Kyral, thanks. Got 1024 right now :) How do I change refreshrate?
[10:04] <Anoop> blue r u there?
[10:05] <navarone> phoul> In Gnuterlla tab...how many connections does it say...at left...?
[10:05] <BlueDevil> Anoop: yes, heavily multitasking :)
[10:05] <Anoop> sorry i see ur posting now
[10:05] <Anoop> i know
[10:05] <Anoop> u r the man
[10:05] <phoul> navarone, what tab...
[10:05] <bor> SWAT: well, that was wrong, you need -udf instead, of course, sorry :)
[10:05] <Kyral> oggah: it should be somewhere in Xorg.conf
[10:05] <navarone> phoul...be adventurous and try looking
[10:05] <Kyral> the Horiz
[10:05] <bor> growisofs takes mkisofs arguments
[10:05] <BlueDevil> Anoop: lemme get this right: you're saying that sometimes it works and after a reboot it doesn't?
[10:05] <SWAT> bor, no problemo, just clearing some space to make the image. If it works.... I'll let you know :)
[10:05] <bor> (after its options)
[10:05] <Anoop> exactly
[10:05] <phoul> nava the hostcache?
[10:05] <mango> Hi gays, I am trying to find out the driver for my wireless card for a hp "compaq nx6110". Windows xp does not day much apart that it is a  Broadcom Intel /wireless card ...could any help me please?
[10:05] <noen> no PGP : pretty good privacy
[10:06] <phoul> or the gnutellanet thing
[10:06] <Anoop> and that sometimes is very very few times
[10:06] <bor> SWAT: that's a good point to use growisofs, because it writes the images on-the-fly
[10:06] <Anoop> i mean once in bluemoon it works
[10:06] <Kyral> mango: I think you need to use NDiswrapper
[10:06] <Anoop> then one reboot gone
[10:06] <sm> morning all.. how do I unfuk gnome(?) when the mouse pointer gets stuck as the + sign in a text widget ?
[10:06] <bor> SWAT: so you don't need to care about space :)
[10:06] <Anoop> it def works right after the first installation
[10:06] <oggah> seems a bit strange to me. running breezy on a amd athlon 1,4ghz. 512mb ram. doing a "free -m" shows 393mb used! 110mb free.
[10:06] <phoul> navarone,
[10:06] <sm> presently I have to restart x which is a pain in the ass
[10:07] <Mazin> PGP is commercialware ain't it?
[10:07] <navarone> phoul...near bottom left...it say connections and upload download...how many connections do you have currently?
[10:07] <noen> yeah but there a defenitly open versions....
[10:07] <phoul> 0/3 connections
[10:07] <mjr> Mazin, yes; see gpg for a free replacement
[10:07] <Mazin> that's what i thought, so it wouldn't be in the ubuntu repositories
[10:07] <Anoop> has anybody else tracked my messages?
[10:07] <BlueDevil> Anoop: that's weird
[10:07] <navarone> Then phoul you are not going to get search results if you are not on network
[10:07] <Anoop> exactly
[10:07] <Mazin> will GPG work for you noen?
[10:07] <phoul> well umm
[10:07] <phoul> How do i get on a network
[10:08] <ubun-newbie> hello anyone in ehre how do i start awk
[10:08] <Anoop> blue what possibly can be wrong?
[10:08] <navarone> phoul...Setting/Preferences/Network tab...enable udp
[10:08] <noen> yes sure... as long as its works: I want encryption ;)
[10:09] <BlueDevil> Anoop: I suggest you to grab the output of ifconfig, lsmod and dmesg when it's working
[10:09] <phoul> its already on navarone
[10:09] <Mazin> look for GPG in synaptic then, and mark it for DL
[10:09] <Mazin> then "apply changes"
[10:09] <Anoop> i am new to linux
[10:09] <BlueDevil> Anoop: and compare to the output of those commands when it's not working
[10:09] <Anoop> so can u pl be detail abt what i should do
[10:09] <phoul> nava its on lol
[10:09] <Anoop> k
[10:09] <phoul> it was already on
[10:10] <Anoop> r u in this chat most of the time
[10:10] <BlueDevil> Anoop: my *wild* guess is that the hardware is detected properly but it can't aquire an ip address via DHCP
[10:10] <noen> interesting: it is already installed..... I dont understand that
[10:10] <mango> Kyral: I found only the source on synaptic...is it only what I need
[10:10] <Anoop> u r 100% right
[10:10] <jenda> Hey, do you know how to install a VooDoo?
[10:10] <mango> ??
[10:10] <Anoop> thats what exactly i think
[10:10] <Anoop> but don't know how to fix it
[10:10] <Kyral> mango: NDiswrapper-utils
[10:10] <jupp> how can i use php5 with apache? I installed apache and php5
[10:10] <Anoop> whats the reason blue?
[10:10] <noplease> hi@all
[10:10] <BlueDevil> Anoop: for a more precise guess I would need more debugging output
[10:11] <phoul> navarone,
[10:11] <oggah> how do you define the "etc" directory?
[10:11] <oggah> in linuxsystems
[10:11] <Kyral> define?
[10:11] <phoul> Its already on
[10:11] <BlueDevil> Anoop: the causes can be multiple
[10:11] <phoul> Any other ideas
[10:11] <Anoop> u mean the output of ifconfig
[10:11] <noen> the package is called: libgpg-error= ....I dont think thats what I want anyway
[10:11] <BlueDevil> Anoop: ifconfig, dmesg
[10:11] <navarone> phoul if you are not connecting to any peers you may have to look at the settings and see what looks out of whack...maybe make sure you are allowing surplus bandwidth or something else that is interfering
[10:11] <phoul> nava i looked through the settings already
[10:11] <oggah> yeah define.
[10:11] <BlueDevil> Anoop: you might look in /var/log/messages for anything out of the ordinary
[10:11] <phoul> everything looks fine
[10:12] <phoul> god damn do i miss limewire
[10:12] <Anoop> blue: how can i paste the messages from another machine?
[10:12] <Anoop> any idea?
[10:12] <xiaogil> what can i do when changes in the file /etc/fonts/fonts.conf are not taken into account ?
[10:12] <oggah> Anyone could give me a url with info bout ubuntus different directories? "etc", "var", "lib" etc.
[10:13] <Kyral> oggah: those are standard Linux dirs
[10:13] <BlueDevil> Anoop: without a network? :) take pictures :)
[10:13] <oggah> what is by default put in these directories?
[10:13] <Oceansblue> Try Debian site docs for directories
[10:13] <navarone> phoul...is peer mode on automatic in setting?
[10:13] <BlueDevil> Anoop: or use a serial consone :-/
[10:13] <Anoop> frustrating!!!
[10:13] <phoul> navarone, peermode?
[10:13] <phoul> wheres that
[10:13] <BlueDevil> s/consone/console/
[10:13] <navarone> In settings
[10:13] <Anoop> don't know what is a serial consone
[10:14] <phoul> yeah autos on
[10:14] <BlueDevil> Anoop: console
[10:14] <navarone> Setting/Pref/gnutella-net
[10:14] <phoul> yeah its on
[10:14] <Oceansblue> A text console running from a serial port
[10:14] <jgrieves> does anyone work X a lot here
[10:14] <BlueDevil> jgrieves: ?
[10:14] <navarone> phoul...Setting/Pref/Bandwidth/Use surplus...?
[10:14] <phoul> Yup
[10:14] <Oceansblue> what is the X ?
[10:15] <jgrieves> is it Xfixes extension which works with cursor changing on the fly?
[10:15] <mango> Kyral: I installed everything....do I download the windows driver for the wireless card and install it thoriugh ndiswrapper  ow?
[10:15] <Kyral> lol Oceansblue
[10:15] <Kyral> mango: does it work?
[10:15] <navarone> phoul...I have no idea...maybe you are using router and need to forward ports
[10:15] <jgrieves> or is it render
[10:15] <phoul> Im on a router nava
[10:15] <phoul> I just dont know how to use it
[10:15] <phoul> Dlink
[10:15] <navarone> no idea either...not suing one
[10:16] <phoul> anyone know how to access a dlink router
[10:16] <phoul> Its a set up numbers into the browser i know that much...
[10:16] <Ishotweb> if my echo $DISPLAY gives me  :0.0
[10:16] <Ishotweb>   is that normal
[10:16] <BlueDevil> jgrieves: i have RENDER enabled
[10:16] <navarone> phoul needs help forwarding port for gnutella-gtk to connect
[10:16] <mango> Kyral: I just installed the ndiswrapper. I asked you weather to download the windows drivers now?
[10:16] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: yes
[10:17] <Ishotweb> bluedevil : okay thanks
[10:17] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: if you switch to the second desktop, it would echo :0.1
[10:17] <jgrieves> BlueDevil do you know if render allows cursors to change on the fly
[10:17] <Oceansblue> msg mango You can use the windows driver
[10:17] <Kyral> mango: yes you need the .sys and .ini
[10:17] <Oceansblue> the sys and inf
[10:17] <jgrieves> BlueDevil trying to figure out which extensions corresponds to xcursorgen function...i.e cursors created for X which extension uses that
[10:17] <Kyral> same thing!
[10:18] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: disregard my second remark, it false
[10:18] <mango> Kyral: wait , I will download it first than get back to you.
[10:18] <BlueDevil> jgrieves: no, i do not know if render is responsible for that
[10:18] <jgrieves> ok
[10:18] <Ishotweb> bluedevil : hah okay i will
[10:19] <Ishotweb> does anyone know what could cause this Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly. then?
[10:20] <jc-denton> http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/12/05/strong_growth_for_debian.html
[10:20] <jc-denton> i ask myself if this is because of ubuntu
[10:20] <jc-denton> but how can i verify
[10:20] <SWAT> bor, it didn't work
[10:21] <SWAT> bor, because even mkisofs -udf says: Vlaue too large for defined data type (the file is just too large - ignoring)
[10:21] <trappist> jc-denton: if it gets the distro from the webserver's version string, then no.  ubuntu's apache identifies itself as such.
[10:22] <BlueDevil> trappist: probably doing so
[10:22] <BlueDevil> besides, ubuntu's big market share is on desktop not server
[10:22] <trappist> BlueDevil: now that I think of it, I'm certain it is.  that's how I got it to think I was running IIS on linux for a while :)
[10:23] <BlueDevil> trappist: lol :)
[10:23] <trappist> http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://linuxkungfu.org
[10:24] <trappist> begone, flooder.
[10:24] <BlueDevil> trappist: try Apache on SymbianOS :)
[10:24] <jc-denton> ah
[10:24] <BlueDevil> that'd be the day when someone notices that at MS
[10:24] <jc-denton> but then why should debian grow so much
[10:24] <jc-denton> i mean ubuntu offers commercial support for the server
[10:24] <jc-denton> that would be an argument
[10:25] <BlueDevil> jc-denton: it sais that's prolly because deb 3.1 was released in july
[10:25] <trappist> jc-denton: debian offers extreme stability that can only come with painfully ancient packages, and server people tend to like that
[10:25] <jc-denton> lol
[10:25] <jc-denton> a very good security team
[10:25] <jc-denton> and much commercial support
[10:25] <trappist> that too
[10:25] <jc-denton> no that not
[10:26] <jc-denton> the security team is not even paid afaik
[10:26] <trappist> therefore they suck?
[10:26] <jenda> The teams aren't paid
[10:26] <jc-denton> and commercial support, there is only progeny which i know
[10:26] <jenda> And no, they don't suck.
[10:26] <jc-denton> trappist: well the team is basically joey hess
[10:26] <BlueDevil> heh, I'm paid and I suck :D
[10:26] <jc-denton> who does a very good job
[10:26] <Anoop> blue i have both ifconfig and dmesg copied
[10:27] <jc-denton> but he's not paid
[10:27] <Anoop> if u want i can paste now
[10:27] <jenda> Linux as a whole has been created voluntarily :) - thank you BlueDevil :)
[10:27] <bor> SWAT: hm, strange, -dvd-video uses UDF too and that should work (haven't used it yet, but read it).  you could try to use this option instead of -udf, but I don't know if your data is readable.  if you finished the mkisofs procedure, just try to mount it loopback
[10:27] <ddew|bofh> Any ppc64 users around?
[10:27] <ddew|bofh> @
[10:27] <jc-denton> well i guess redhat ist popular because of the commercial support and stuff
[10:27] <BlueDevil> trappist: i'm a product/project manager :P
[10:27] <jc-denton> debian does not have that
[10:27] <jc-denton> but ubuntu
[10:27] <Anoop> blue: did u get my message?
[10:27] <jc-denton> so it would be likely that the growth is caused by ubuntu
[10:28] <BlueDevil> Anoop: please don't paste in channel
[10:28] <Anoop> k
[10:28] <Anoop> email?
[10:28] <BlueDevil> Anoop: paste in pm/query
[10:28] <jc-denton> i also see ubuntu nowhere on the chart of netcraft
[10:28] <Anoop> where is pm/query?
[10:28] <navarone> what's netcraft?
[10:28] <SWAT> bor, same error. Value too large, ignoring
[10:28] <BlueDevil> jc-denton: what's your point?
[10:28] <BlueDevil> Anoop: pm=private message
[10:29] <navarone> Anoop /msg <nick>
[10:29] <ddew|bofh> I'm having problems with the ppc install-cds, anyone care to clue me in on who to contact or where I can get assistance?
[10:29] <BlueDevil> Anoop: /query <nick>
[10:29] <jc-denton> BlueDevil: i'm intrested why they grew so much
[10:29] <mango> Kyral: I found 2 drivers the 2100, and the 2200 which one do I picK?
[10:29] <Anoop> so i paste here as pm/query
[10:30] <BlueDevil> Anoop signed off (Excess flood) :)
[10:30] <Ishotweb> ah i figured out my problem... i need to get the X development files, at least xlib/xfree86 devel packages
[10:30] <ompaul> This would be how I would use it >>/msg anoop this is not a query it is a message
[10:30] <BlueDevil> Anoop: yes, you can paste in a query
[10:30] <FlimFlamMan> from the breezy livecd, i'm trying to resize an ntfs partition with gparted, but it keeps failing.  command-line output says /dev/hdc is read-only (cdrom) and "unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow", whatever that is...  is there no way to resize this ntfs partition so i can install breezy?
[10:31] <Techie_dude> ...um...i got this error when trying to use wine  rr:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\Dorgem\\Dorgem.exe" failed, status c0000135
[10:31] <Anoop> pm/query/ [LNKD]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.654000]  ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1f.2 disabled
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.654000]  ahci: probe of 0000:00:1f.2 failed with error -12
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.655000]  ata_piix version 1.03
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.655000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[B]  -> Link [LNKD]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.655000]  PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.2 to 64
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.655000]  ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1F0 ctl 0x3F6 bmdma 0x1100 irq 14
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  ata1: dev 0 cfg 49:2f00 82:746b 83:7d09 84:6023 85:7468 86:3c09 87:6023 88:203f
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  ata1: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/100, 195371568 sectors: lba48
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  ata1(0): applying bridge limits
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/100
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  scsi0 : ata_piix
[10:31] <ompaul> Anoop, please dont do that
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]    Vendor: ATA       Model: TOSHIBA MK1032GA  Rev: AB21
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]    Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 05
[10:31] <BlueDevil> stop :)
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0x1108 irq 15
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.117000]  ata2: dev 0 cfg 49:0f00 82:0000 83:0000 84:0000 85:0000 86:0000 87:0000 88:0407
[10:31] <BlueDevil> omg ;)
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.117000]  ata2: dev 0 ATAPI, max UDMA/33
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.117000]  ata2(0): applying bridge limits
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.117000]  ata2: dev 0 configured for UDMA/33
[10:31] <bor> SWAT: darn, another solution would be to burn it as raw data (i.e. tar cvpf - -C /path/to/image/dir file | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=proc/self/fd/0)
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.117000]  scsi1 : ata_piix
[10:31] <ompaul> paste = paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.119000]    Vendor: MATSHITA  Model: DVD-RAM UJ-831S   Rev: 1.40
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.119000]    Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 05
[10:31] <navarone> uh oh
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.135000]  Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.135000]  ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.135000]  ACPI: bus type ide registered
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.136000]  ide0: I/O resource 0x1F0-0x1F7 not free.
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.136000]  ide0: ports already in use, skipping probe
[10:32] <Anoop> [4294670.136000]  ide1: I/O resource 0x170-0x177 not free.
[10:32] <Anoop> [4294670.136000]  ide1: ports already in use, skipping probe
[10:32] <Anoop> [4294670.136000]  Probing IDE interface ide2...
[10:32] <bor> SWAT: but you won't be able to mount it and must know that the data is kept raw on the DVD
[10:32] <FlimFlamMan> ok...
[10:32] <FlimFlamMan> from the breezy livecd, i'm trying to resize an ntfs partition with gparted, but it keeps failing.  command-line output says /dev/hdc is read-only (cdrom) and "unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow", whatever that is...  is there no way to resize this ntfs partition so i can install breezy?
[10:32] <ompaul> Anoop,  paste = paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:32] <Techie_dude> i got this error when trying to run wine rr:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\Dorgem\\Dorgem.exe" failed, status c0000135
[10:32] <BlueDevil> damn, I even opened a query and said "paste here"
[10:32] <funktown> FlimFlamMan.. i dont think you can write any changes to an ntfs filesystem
[10:32] <ompaul> Anoop,  a little know very useful url
[10:33] <Techie_dude> does anyone know what that error meant?
[10:33] <navarone> FlimFlamMan, writing ntfs can corrupt filedystem
[10:33] <owner989> hey do you guys think i will be able to get a usb wireless adapter to work with ubuntu
[10:33] <SWAT> bor, hmmmz....... that's evil. ATM looking for another solution
[10:33] <owner989> im installing ubuntu on another computer right now
[10:33] <trappist> you can resize ntfs.  that's not the same as writing to it.
[10:33] <BlueDevil> Anoop: nothing from the paste is useful
[10:33] <ompaul> Techie_dude, looks to me like the error is an exe error
[10:33] <owner989> but the autoconf didnt detect the network
[10:34] <Techie_dude> okay
[10:34] <BlueDevil> Anoop: and in the future when I say paste here, please do so
[10:34] <FlimFlamMan> funktown, "Jan 17, 2005 	 A new, actively developed, free graphical partitioner arrived, called GParted. Its name stands for Gnome Partition Editor and it's one of the most feature rich  partitioners in the world by supporting ext2, ext3, JFS, Reiserfs, XFS, NTFS, FAT16, FAT32 and the HFS filesystems. GParted is using ntfsresize internally for safe NTFS resizing."
[10:34] <bor> SWAT: you could use rar to make an archive splitted into volumes with maxsize of 2 GB :)
[10:34] <Techie_dude> could it work with a zip file?
[10:34] <trappist> FlimFlamMan: it looks like it's trying to resize your cdrom drive?
[10:34] <BlueDevil> Anoop: if you did, the text would have ended up in my query not in the channel
[10:34] <SWAT> bor, come on :P I just want to burn it normally. Just browsing google with the current error
[10:34] <Anoop> first i made a mistake
[10:35] <ompaul> Techie_dude, could what work - that is a little kinda vague
[10:35] <Anoop> i didn't understand
[10:35] <FlimFlamMan> trappist, i don't know if that error is a direct indication that it's trying to resize the cdrom or not...
[10:35] <Anoop> then i did it right
[10:35] <Techie_dude> will wine work with a .zip file....sorry
[10:35] <BlueDevil> Anoop: i still can't see any text in the query
[10:35] <trappist> FlimFlamMan: you should be able to resize it from the ubuntu installer
[10:35] <BlueDevil> Anoop: what client are you using?
[10:35] <Anoop> why?
[10:35] <ompaul> Techie_dude, why would you want wine to work with it - just double click on it and it will be unzipped for you
[10:35] <Anoop> xchat
[10:35] <trappist> FlimFlamMan: assuming you've defragged
[10:36] <Techie_dude> no i mean a windoes .zip filee
[10:36] <Anoop> blue:is xchat good or not
[10:36] <ompaul> Techie_dude, zip is a format
[10:36] <alistair_> Prob off topic but the ubuntu certification? is there any plans to provide some kinda training manual? and not just an exam?
[10:36] <FlimFlamMan> trappist, i defragged but it just made files contiguous, there are still files spread across the drive.  this is an xp laptop
[10:36] <BlueDevil> Anoop: if you right click on a nickname there should be an entry "Query"
[10:36] <william> How do I get Ubuntu to access Debian's apt servers instead of its own?
[10:36] <Techie_dude> i know how to fix the pasting  problem in xchat....... type something like this before pasting....... this is the error i got...then paste after that message and it wont do taht
[10:37] <ompaul> Techie_dude, ehh no if you have lots of data use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:37] <battlecat> Hi I am on dial-up and I would like to know if there is an update feature like there is when I use the ethernet cable at the office?
[10:37] <BlueDevil> william: man sources.list
[10:37] <Techie_dude> ah....
[10:37] <trappist> FlimFlamMan: you might have better luck defragging in save mode.  if there are files near the end of the partition ntfsresize will only work to the end of those files
[10:37] <ctcecil> How's everyone
[10:37] <Anoop> blue: there is no enter query in right click option
[10:37] <trappist> *safe mode
[10:37] <Ishotweb> okay so if i have to install a package called XFree86-devel how can i go about finding this package to install it? apt-get install XFree86-devel can't find it
[10:37] <william> What is the Debian server?
[10:38] <trappist> Ishotweb: why do you think you need to install that?
[10:38] <ompaul> william, you do that to break your ubuntu
[10:38] <william> I just want to install more apps
[10:39] <william> I don't even see game being listed
[10:39] <Ishotweb> trappist: i need to compile wine, and wine's telling me that i need that package to build it with X support
[10:39] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: apt-cache search
[10:39] <sunsun_> hi how do i install lame to encode mp3?
[10:39] <ompaul> william, so add a few repos to synaptic and you can have up to 17500 in breezy
[10:39] <mysyfy_> i'm trying to compile the kernel modules for running vmware.....during the installation i received this error
[10:39] <trappist> william: debian packages are not binary-compatible with ubuntu
[10:39] <mysyfy_> gcc-3.4: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': File not found
[10:39] <william> Where is the list file anyways?
[10:39] <TTilus> I burned data DVD with couple of 1+Gb files.  It works fine on the machine it was burned and on an old Win XP laptop (IBM 600X).  Another Linux box having same make and age DVD drive (than the one used for burning) shows only 5-11Mb files, otherwise things work.  Any suggestions what eats up the file tails?
[10:39] <sunsun_> hi how do i install lame to encode mp3 using command line?
[10:39] <trappist> Ishotweb: try xserver-xorg-dev
[10:40] <_seatouch> hey
[10:40] <william> You can download Lame from Apt
[10:40] <BlueDevil> Anoop: check for a tab in xchat having my nick as the title
[10:40] <jsteidl> sunsun_: you mean like "apt-get"  or the console-interface?
[10:40] <mysyfy_> before running the installation i did export CC=gcc-3.4 as is the same version of my gcc for the kernel compilation
[10:40] <seatouch> can anyone tell me the command to install build-essential ?
[10:40] <bor> SWAT: if you find a way, please let me know :).  I thought the UDF-way should work, but obviously  this isn't the case
[10:40] <Anoop> YES
[10:40] <lightbright> hey hey
[10:40] <sunsun_> yah i  cant figure out what package has lame to encode mp3 using command line
[10:40] <Ishotweb> trappist: it can't find that either
[10:40] <ompaul> william, are you reading what I am saying to you? - you don't use debian repos for ubuntu - you will break your system - you add more repos - check out synaptic:: system - administration - syanptic package manager and in there you add more repos
[10:40] <Anoop> I already see that blue
[10:40] <zAo^> how do I change the number of scroll lines (mouse)
[10:40] <mycket> william, you can add community packages in synaptic.
[10:40] <jsteidl> seatouch: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:40] <mysyfy_> i already have the g++ packages...
[10:40] <TTilus> sunsun_: sudo aptitude install [the packages you want]
[10:41] <BlueDevil> Anoop: click on it, that's the query from me
[10:41] <sunsun_> lame is a virtual package so it doesnt install
[10:41] <TTilus> sunsun_: or better yet, just sudo aptitude, and use the console interface to browse and select packages
[10:41] <BlueDevil> Anoop: and respond there
[10:41] <Anoop> i have already responded 3-4 lines
[10:41] <mysyfy_> but i don't know if i have to have the g++ packages for the same version of the CC that i export
[10:41] <BlueDevil> Anoop: i didn't receive anything
[10:42] <trappist> mysyfy_: ls -l `which g++`
[10:42] <sunsun_> hi which package has the command line "lame" mp3 encoder?
[10:42] <TTilus> sunsun_: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:42] <seatouch> can anyone tell me where the root terminal is located ?
[10:42] <Anoop> can't do anything
[10:42] <TTilus> sunsun_: search there
[10:42] <Anoop> i can see ur mesg
[10:42] <TTilus> seatouch: use sudo
[10:42] <seatouch> rite
[10:42] <chrisx1> !tell seatouch about root
[10:42] <Anoop> can i send the file
[10:42] <Anoop> i have it as file
[10:42] <sunsun_> it says lame is in the "multiverse"
[10:42] <Anoop> blue i have an option called send file
[10:43] <mysyfy_> trappist, /usr/bin/g++ -> g++-4.0
[10:43] <ompaul> william, read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:43] <MagicFab> Hello
[10:43] <ompaul> chrisx1, the bot is missing
[10:43] <sunsun_> how do i put multiverse into sources.list?  what is the actual line?
[10:43] <chrisx1> :o
[10:43] <jsteidl> sunsun_: i have installed lame (its in universe/multiverse) and it worls fine in the console.
[10:43] <chrisx1> Why?
[10:43] <BlueDevil> Anoop: try sending the file
[10:44] <jsteidl> sunsun_: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[10:44] <MagicFab> I'd like to know if FreeNX is really free (libre) ?
[10:44] <ompaul> seatouch read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SudoRoot
[10:44] <BlueDevil> sunsun_: replace "de" with your country code
[10:44] <sunsun_> ok thanks a lot everyone.
[10:44] <TTilus> MagicFab: search licence
[10:44] <mysyfy_> trappist, it's right version of g++ for gcc-3.4 ?
[10:45] <jsteidl> sunsun_: do a 'apt-get update' after editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:45] <JyZ|> hey
[10:45] <peadot> re
[10:45] <MagicFab> Although http://freenx.berlios.de/ sure looks like it is, I don't find it in any U. repos
[10:45] <TTilus> MagicFab: this http://freenx.berlios.de/ ?
[10:45] <JyZ|> where do i put Broken package filter on ?
[10:45] <BlueDevil> MagicFab: Seveas has it in his repo for x86
[10:45] <trappist> mysyfy_: no, you want g++-3.4
[10:45] <justin__> #ht
[10:45] <Anoop> blue it says its waiting
[10:45] <BlueDevil> Anoop: i didn't get a notification...
[10:46] <lawrence> trappist, why not gcc 4.0?
[10:46] <goyaves> hello all
[10:46] <jsteidl> JyZ|: use synaptic and select custom instead of sections
[10:46] <lawrence> trappist, I hear that gentoo made the switch
[10:46] <TTilus> MagicFab: http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ/General
[10:46] <trappist> lawrence: he's using gcc 3.4 and is trying to match his g++ to it
[10:46] <goyaves> I want to know if there are people here from Africa ?
[10:46] <mysyfy_> trappist, hmm right....after install it i have to export something too ... like CC?
[10:46] <lawrence> trappist, oh ok
[10:46] <Necrocide> &j #gnome
[10:46] <trappist> lawrence: so did ubuntu
[10:46] <goyaves> anyone here from Africa ?
[10:46] <MagicFab> BlueDevil: yes, saw that. But why isn't it into ubuntu repositories (too recent) ? How can I find out if it'sbeen considered for addition ?
[10:46] <trappist> mysyfy_: I'm not sure, I usually just change my symlinks
[10:46] <lawrence> trappist, I know...but the compiler plays a greater role in gentoo
[10:47] <lawrence> so they'd most likely have a relatively conservative policy on updating it
[10:47] <goyaves> anyone here from Africa ?
[10:47] <goyaves> anyone here from Africa ?
[10:47] <goyaves> please
[10:47] <lawrence> Nope
[10:47] <BlueDevil> MagicFab: don't know why it isn't in ubuntu repos
[10:47] <mysyfy_> trappist, ok...tks u...i'll do that.. :)
[10:47] <trappist> lawrence: gentoo doesn't have a conservative policy about anything.  newer==better, especially with compilers.
[10:48] <jsteidl> trappist: not if it breaks everything ;)
[10:48] <jsteidl> thats why there is breakmygentoo.net
[10:48] <lawrence> yeah
[10:48] <trappist> jsteidl: you're preaching to the choir
[10:48] <Anoop> blue: do u see anything on query window
[10:48] <Anoop> what client r u using?
[10:48] <Anoop> xchat is good or not?
[10:48] <trappist> xchat is fine
[10:48] <chrisx1> xchat == best
[10:48] <chrisx1> :P
[10:48] <trappist> real men use irssi though
[10:48] <LMX2> xchat is the best irc client i know
[10:48] <lawrence> xchat is a demonspawn succubus from hell
[10:49] <BlueDevil> Anoop: i don't see anything in query window from you
[10:49] <Anoop> thats weird
[10:49] <jsteidl> Anoop: try it on another person (i volunteer ;))
[10:49] <Anoop> thanks
[10:49] <BlueDevil> Anoop: i'm using Konv since it comes with kubuntu-destop and I'm lazy
[10:49] <JyZ|> IS THERE ANY VIRUS SPYWARE OR MALWARE TO UBUNTU ?
[10:49] <JyZ|> can u hack ubuntu?
[10:50] <jsteidl> JyZ|: can you hack the world?
[10:50] <lawrence> Theoretically, yes
[10:50] <BlueDevil> JyZ|: surely you can hack ubuntu
[10:50] <JyZ|> no
[10:50] <Ishotweb> hakk the planet!!!!!11111
[10:50] <ko> of course JyZ|
[10:50] <BlueDevil> JyZ|: with a big enough hammer
[10:50] <lawrence> JyZ|, You can hack anything
[10:50] <JyZ|> no
[10:50] <william> What apt catagory is GMud under?
[10:50] <JyZ|> is it hard to hack ubuntu?
[10:50] <lawrence> BlueDevil, lol nice
[10:50] <JyZ|> via internet?
[10:50] <chrisx1> HACK THE WORLD NOO MAN U CANT DO THAT:o
[10:50] <Anoop> jsteidl did u get a notification
[10:50] <SWAT> bor, apparently I need the development version of mkisofs :-/
[10:50] <Anoop> i am trying to send a file to u
[10:50] <chrisx1> I unplug my Eth0!
[10:50] <JyZ|> do ubuntu got virus spyware ?
[10:50] <JyZ|> or overally linux
[10:50] <jsteidl> Anoop: no, i havent got any query...
[10:50] <TTilus> MagicFab: its coming http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2005-June/001358.html
[10:51] <JyZ|> ?
[10:51] <lawrence> JyZ|, I don't think there's any known ubuntu spyware in the wild
[10:51] <BlueDevil> JyZ|: work for MS? doing research?
[10:51] <jsteidl> JyZ|: no.
[10:51] <JyZ|> no
[10:51] <Anoop> i don't see u in the tab jsteidl
[10:51] <JyZ|> cause my web browser crash when iam on porn sites
[10:51] <JyZ|> :P
[10:51] <jsteidl> Anoop: i am trying to query you
[10:51] <navarone> lol
[10:51] <Anoop> k
[10:51] <chrisx1> anoop register ur nick
[10:51] <goyaves> please anyone help me
[10:51] <chrisx1> so u can send pm
[10:51] <goyaves> please anyone help me
[10:51] <jsteidl> Anoop: reciving anything?
[10:51] <Anoop> nope
[10:51] <chrisx1> -NickServ- The nickname [anoop]  is not registered
[10:51] <goyaves> am searchin africans here
[10:51] <BlueDevil> anoop: write "/query jsteidl"
[10:51] <jeed890> seveas u therw?
[10:51] <goyaves> please help me
[10:51] <navarone> goyaves, what's wrong?
[10:52] <Anoop> do i have to register
[10:52] <JyZ|> so
[10:52] <lawrence> JyZ|, Probably because your browser knows you're a pervert and tries to change your ways through brute force.  It's trying to make you love Jesus, that's all.
[10:52] <chrisx1> /msg nickserv register "pass"
[10:52] <JyZ|> :P:P
[10:52] <goyaves> I want to know if there are any africans here ?
[10:52] <goyaves> navarone
[10:52] <lawrence> goyaves, no
[10:52] <goyaves> where are you from
[10:52] <goyaves> am from montreal canada
[10:52] <Anoop> i am querying jstedl
[10:52] <navarone> Canada goya...but therre are Africans living in Canada...so you never can tell
[10:52] <jeed890> this is not chatty chat chat idiot its technical support
[10:52] <JyZ|> lawrence, u know any Emulator Free one ? maybie working with Counter-Strike ?
[10:52] <lightbright> navarone: interesting
[10:53] <navarone> how so lightbright ?
[10:53] <jeed890> seveas ?????????/
[10:53] <jsteidl> Anoop: you seem to have some sort of problem... but it works on my side to other clients.
[10:53] <lawrence> JyZ|, Cedega? It's not free
[10:53] <jc-denton> i noticed that the permission changed after updating fuse-utils on Breezy
[10:53] <BlueDevil> huh?! cedega isn't free? :-/
[10:53] <lightbright> navarone: interesting what you said
[10:53] <jc-denton> < root@nx7010:~ # ls -l `which fusermount`
[10:53] <jc-denton> -rwsr-xr--  1 root fuse 17208 Dec  1 12:17 /usr/bin/fusermount
[10:53] <Anoop> i have xchat
[10:53] <JyZ|> ye
[10:53] <JyZ|> lawrence, but u know any FREE ones
[10:53] <Anoop> should i change
[10:53] <lawrence> JyZ|, Maybe someone has gotten wine to work w/ CS, I don't know
[10:53] <lawrence> Vanilla wine works w/ WoW
[10:53] <JyZ|> lawrence, i cant get it workin
[10:53] <BlueDevil> Anoop: you need to register your nick
[10:54] <jeed890> can anybody help me seveas was but now he dont reply
[10:54] <Anoop> how?
[10:54] <jsteidl> Anoop: type /msg nickserv help
[10:54] <BlueDevil> Anoop: "/msg nickserv register your_password"
[10:54] <jc-denton> why is this?
[10:54] <DJGreen> hey hey folks
[10:54] <JyZ|> lawrence, when i try to update ubuntu it say  "You have 1 broken package on your system! use the broken filter to locate it"
[10:54] <DJGreen> what's up y'all Ubuntites
[10:54] <JyZ|> lawrence, where is the broken filter
[10:54] <jeed890> i need help with booting problems if anybody can help please pm me
[10:55] <DJGreen> use synaptic
[10:55] <jsteidl> JyZ|: use synaptic to locate the package
[10:55] <navarone> JyZ|, try status at bottom left
[10:55] <lightbright> DJGreen: why use synaptic when we have aptitude?
[10:55] <DJGreen> even better
[10:55] <lawrence> JyZ|, synaptic
[10:55] <navarone> JyZ|, in synaptic
[10:55] <neighborlee> lightbright, ease of use ? ;-)
[10:55] <DJGreen> but for this guy its synaptic
[10:55] <lawrence> JyZ|, Or just give me your root password, that works too
[10:55] <JyZ|> lawrence, Naah :)
[10:55] <DJGreen> pfft ..
[10:55] <lightbright> neighborlee: ok :)
[10:55] <neighborlee> :)
[10:56] <DJGreen> you know everyone was once a n00b
[10:56] <trappist> neighborlee: I think I remember you from #mandrake
[10:56] <DJGreen> so chill
[10:56] <neighborlee> lightbright, of course mainly newbie friendly <G>
[10:56] <neighborlee> trappist, indeed
[10:56] <lightbright> DJGreen: yes and many people are still noobs :)
[10:56] <navarone> lawrence, the Russian judge gives you 2.4 for social engineering...lol
[10:56] <neighborlee> trappist, how are you
[10:56] <lightbright> neighborlee: yeah true
[10:56] <lawrence> navarone, rofl
[10:56] <trappist> neighborlee: excellent.  you?
[10:56] <DJGreen> sadly but how can we have a bigger community if others dont start?
[10:56] <Taa5i_> Howdy yall!
[10:56] <neighborlee> trappist, excellent thx ;0)
[10:56] <DJGreen> see if you all want ubuntu to be all that that is
[10:56] <eedge> Is there any way I can force my traffic to go through a proxy.
[10:57] <eedge> As in, for programs that dont have inbuilt proxy support.
[10:57] <trappist> eedge: use iptables to set up a transparent proxy
[10:57] <lawrence> JyZ|, did you start synaptic?
[10:57] <JyZ|> lawrence, do iptables start auotmaticly when i start ubuntu?
[10:57] <eedge> that sounds difficult :)
[10:57] <jsteidl> Anoop: did it worked out for you?
[10:57] <JyZ|> lawrence, ye i fixed it :P
[10:57] <trappist> eedge: not really
[10:57] <eedge> any chance of some kind of guide or helpful link?
[10:57] <Anoop> i think blue can see me now
[10:57] <eedge> :)
[10:57] <Anoop> can u try again jsteidl
[10:57] <lawrence> JyZ|, wait...what?
[10:57] <lightbright> JyZ|: define iptables
[10:57] <navarone> JzE, ...yes...you can use firestarter to view traffic and make policy changes
[10:57] <JyZ|> say Where?
[10:58] <SWAT> bor, also have a look at the last remark on : http://lantech.geekvenue.net/chucktips/jason/chuck/1077301682/index_html
[10:58] <trappist> eedge: iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports $PROXY_PORT
[10:58] <Taa5i_> ANYBODY: Does anybody here have any experiance using Ubuntu with an HP NetRAID controller? I have an older HP NetServer with it built in and the distribution disks seem to have trouble with the disks
[10:58] <lightbright> JzE: i use firestarter myself, its great
[10:58] <eedge> I try it :)
[10:58] <Taa5i_> The RAID disks that is
[10:58] <william> Ok
[10:58] <william> New question
[10:58] <eedge> should I have the proxy IP in there somewhere?
[10:58] <william> How do I automount NTFS drives?
[10:58] <jsteidl> Anoop: ?
[10:58] <JyZ|> say HEY
[10:58] <eedge> shouldn't I even.
[10:58] <Anoop> yes
[10:59] <JyZ|> say any good program for looking videos?
[10:59] <lightbright> JyZ|: go to www.grc.com   scroll-down,click on shields up logo,select all ports/services scan
[10:59] <trappist> eedge: no, you run that command on the proxy box, assuming you run the proxy on your gateway
[10:59] <lawrence> JyZ|, You can use iptables to write firewalls and that kind of stuff
[10:59] <lawrence> JyZ|, xine or totem
[10:59] <DJGreen> speaking of mounting hey does anyone know how to automount hfs and hfs+ in fstab?
[10:59] <lawrence> JyZ|, I use totem-xine
[10:59] <JyZ|> with one is better
[10:59] <jsteidl> Anoop: did the registering worked out?
[10:59] <Anoop> i think so
[10:59] <lawrence> JyZ|, depends
[10:59] <jsteidl> Anoop: so you've recieved my message?
[10:59] <Anoop> nope
[10:59] <trappist> eedge: it does get a *little* more complicated if the proxy doesn't run on the gateway
[10:59] <DJGreen> marc emery is that you?
[11:00] <DJGreen> hehe
[11:00] <jsteidl> Anoop: then it hasnt worked ;)
[11:00] <eedge> ah, thats where the problem lies... the proxy box is windows :S
[11:00] <eedge> lol
[11:00] <Anoop> k
[11:00] <Paradosso> does anyone know how to set character encoding in aterm/eterm?
[11:00] <Anoop> but blue replied
[11:00] <jsteidl> Anoop: please type "/msg nickserv help register (your passwd here)"
[11:00] <Anoop> and said hold on
[11:00] <Techie_dude> i can't get xwine to work with Dorgem
[11:00] <Anoop> i am holding on
[11:00] <jsteidl> Anoop: okay, i am staying out of this ;)
[11:00] <Anoop> thank you very much
[11:01] <Techie_dude> does anyone know how to fix my problem
[11:01] <jsteidl> you are welcome
[11:01] <DJGreen> aria giovanni?
[11:01] <DJGreen> wow we have some celebs here
[11:01] <DJGreen> pabloescobar..
[11:01] <NeverDream> leave the porn on YOUR computer
[11:01] <DJGreen> lol
[11:01] <JyZ|> hey
[11:01] <JyZ|> i got allmost all port CLOSED
[11:01] <eedge> What I want to do is force applications that alledgedly don't HAVE proxy support to go through my proxy.
[11:01] <Techie_dude> Does anyone know how to use xwine
[11:01] <PabloEscobar_> DJGreen-> sush
[11:01] <BlueDevil> does running "dpkg -l|egrep '^..R'" produce any warning for any of you
[11:01] <BlueDevil> ?
[11:01] <DJGreen> lol
[11:02] <lightbright> Techie_dude: whats xwine?
[11:02] <SWAT> DJGreen, don't be a perv. Keep those remarks to yourself
[11:02] <Techie_dude> its a gui version of wine
[11:02] <DJGreen> pablo i was ecknowledging the names that go by here
[11:02] <DJGreen> heh..
[11:02] <trappist> eedge: it's a little more complicated, then, but you can do it.  just forward all port 80 traffic to the windows box on the proxy port.
[11:02] <JyZ|> lawrence, totem xine is to debian !
[11:02] <zimbabwe> serea
[11:02] <DJGreen> oh hey its just the names that people use here i wasnt being a perv
[11:02] <DJGreen> i was just a name
[11:02] <eedge> and how would I do that :P
[11:02] <eedge> I havn't used iptables before.
[11:02] <lawrence> JyZ|, Ubuntu is based on debian
[11:03] <trappist> eedge: /join #iptables
[11:03] <eedge>  /join #iptables
[11:03] <eedge> opps, haha
[11:03] <JyZ|> say know
[11:03] <zimbabwe> what i do to see the list of channel ?
[11:03] <lawrence> root@sirius:/home/lawrence# aptitude search totem-xine
[11:03] <lawrence> id  totem-xine
[11:03] <lawrence> It's definitely there
[11:03] <jeed890> is seveas here?
[11:04] <DJGreen> lol
[11:04] <DJGreen> some of these names are pretty funny
[11:04] <lawrence> DJGreen, are you actually a dj?
[11:04] <DJGreen> once
[11:05] <DJGreen> in Taiwan
[11:05] <lawrence> DJGreen, haha awesome
[11:05] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> can someone help me?
[11:05] <DJGreen> i gig some small time gigs
[11:05] <lawrence> DJGreen, cool
[11:05] <DJGreen> yeh
[11:05] <lawrence> MC Frontalot is the greatest mc ever
[11:05] <DJGreen> nothing too fancy just enough get the ladies
[11:05] <DJGreen> :)
[11:05] <lawrence> haha nice
[11:06] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> i'm searching for a audio player that plays rar and zip files
[11:06] <FlimFlamMan> can i cram ubuntu onto a 2.5gb partition?
[11:06] <DJGreen> gotta do tha spin and grin and the ladies will follow .. that's my motto
[11:06] <trappist> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: rar and zip are not audio formats
[11:06] <lawrence> FlimFlamMan, depends...what you going to use it for?
[11:06] <lawrence> DJGreen, haha
[11:06] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> yes i know
[11:06] <FlimFlamMan> lawrence, to demo the ubuntu desktop at work
[11:06] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> i'm not so stupid
[11:06] <lawrence> FlimFlamMan, If you want to demo it, why not try a livecd?
[11:07] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> but i dont want to extract and play
[11:07] <DJGreen> mello the jello , fall back to attack i'm DJGreen in tha house.
[11:07] <DJGreen> word..
[11:07] <FlimFlamMan> lawrence, low-end machine, would like to give it native drive access
[11:07] <Chronusdark> i agree with lawrence
[11:07] <lawrence> haha
[11:07] <DJGreen> :)
[11:07] <timbalbekov> how do i install the X11 development libraries?
[11:07] <hfx> hiyas
[11:08] <hfx> how do i make gedit support writing to a samba share?
[11:08] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> someone knows a  audio program that plays rar and zip (yes its compressed files)
[11:08] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> ?
[11:08] <szronik> Can someone tell me why browsing the web under Ubuntu is so much slower than in Windows?
[11:08] <trappist> hfx: you don't.  you make your samba share support writing.
[11:08] <lawrence> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, Why not uncompress them first?
[11:08] <DJGreen> clickity clack did my keyboard tap. I know my show all the way down to my toe. nothin but a cow and a hoe.
[11:08] <timmy334> I just did a fresh install of Breezy on my laptop and it gives me the BSOD saying X couldn't start and it's disabling gdm. I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it still doesn't work. How do I get it working?
[11:09] <DJGreen> :)
[11:09] <hfx> trappist, it does o.O
[11:09] <lawrence> DJGreen, haha nice....did you ever mc?
[11:09] <DJGreen> nope ..
[11:09] <mool> hum
[11:09] <DJGreen> just spin
[11:09] <trappist> hfx: gedit doesn't care if the file is on a samba share.
[11:09] <DJGreen> occasionally i pop in a few ryhmes to mix the nights
[11:09] <lawrence> DJGreen, oh nice
[11:09] <szronik> I need to know how to speed up networking under Linux. How do I set the card to half-duplex mode too?
[11:10] <hfx> transgress, seemingly it does
[11:10] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> cause i have 160 gb of music, and i like that they stay compressed ( i know some plugins for winamp or foobar under windows)
[11:10] <hfx> on my kubuntu box, it works like a breeze
[11:10] <hfx> with kate ^^
[11:10] <Red-Sox> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: thats a whole lot of music!!
[11:10] <lawrence> FlimFlamMan, do you have a  swap partition?
[11:11] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> yes
[11:11] <Delvien> Anyone figure out how to make there "WIFI LED" to turn on when wifi is on?
[11:11] <trappist> lawrence: having music is pirating?
[11:11] <Red-Sox> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: how do you rip DVDs?
[11:11] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> no
[11:11] <lawrence> trappist, I was joking
[11:12] <lawrence> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, i'm not sure...check to see if there's an xmms plugin
[11:12] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> i have done this
[11:12] <FlimFlamMan> mp3 doesn't compress hardly at all
[11:12] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> yes
[11:12] <Madmad> can anybody help me wid xp and 5.04 dual boot problems if so plz plz plz pm me
[11:13] <DJGreen> sure it does .. just rename the mp3 to compress.mp3
[11:13] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> but i like yo keep them on rar files
[11:13] <BlueDevil> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: uncompress the damn music, you're not gaining much space by keeping it compressed with rar or zip
[11:13] <DJGreen> viola compressed
[11:13] <DJGreen> hehe
[11:13] <FlimFlamMan> what is your motivation for putting them in a zip?
[11:13] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> sharing
[11:13] <FlimFlamMan> wha?
[11:13] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> emule
[11:13] <BlueDevil> wtf?!
[11:14] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> amule
[11:14] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> gnutella
[11:14] <lawrence> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, Oh....I was right then
[11:14] <FlimFlamMan> doesn't take mp3's or what?
[11:14] <BlueDevil> you have lots of albums?
[11:14] <lawrence> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, that's cool tho
[11:14] <DJGreen> if i were to come up with a gothic name i'd call myself NecroPoop.
[11:14] <bor> SWAT: ah, great, thanks!  have you tried the development version yet?
[11:14] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> the edonkey network works better with large files
[11:15] <FlimFlamMan> so share the zips and let people unzip them on the other end
[11:15] <trappist> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: please don't use the enter key for punctuation
[11:15] <trappist> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: it would be even better if you'd consider changing your nick
[11:15] <BlueDevil> didn't that network die of too many leechers riding it?! :)
[11:15] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> yes? why?
[11:15] <DJGreen> hehe he said riding it..
[11:16] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> (my first time on irc after 8 years?)
[11:16] <lawrence> DJGreen, Do you have any mp3s of you djing?
[11:16] <DJGreen> uhh ... heh heh heh .. uhh .. yeah like that was cool or somethin .. heh ..
[11:16] <DJGreen> you mean my mixes
[11:16] <FlimFlamMan> so nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn was the first person to get locked up for 8 years for sharing copyrighted material
[11:16] <DJGreen> not on me here
[11:16] <DJGreen> i'm on my lappy
[11:16] <lawrence> DJGreen, oh cool
[11:16] <BlueDevil> lol@FlimFlamMan
[11:16] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> not in brazil!!!!
[11:17] <trappist> ah, that explains a lot
[11:17] <RezDawg> Does anyone here use xDvdshrink with ubuntu?
[11:17] <Red-Sox> trappist: why do you say it would be better if nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn changed his nick?
[11:17] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> hehehe
[11:17] <DJGreen> i never keep my mp3 on my lappy
[11:17] <lawrence> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, nice...corruption for the win!
[11:17] <DJGreen> i remotely play them from my home
[11:17] <laurenk> hey
[11:17] <DJGreen> whenever i am at a gig
[11:17] <trappist> Red-Sox: because it's extraordinarily lame?
[11:17] <lawrence> Do you ever listen to your own mixes?
[11:17] <DJGreen> this way peopel can't steal my shit
[11:17] <FlimFlamMan> i used to do that until my broadband provider slashed upload speed
[11:17] <DJGreen> only when i'm really bored
[11:17] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> trapist how i change my nickname?
[11:17] <BlueDevil> DJGreen: riiiight :)
[11:17] <Red-Sox> trappist: ill give you that ;)
[11:17] <DJGreen> i dont like to do the same thing twice
[11:17] <trappist> nickrud: /nick newnick
[11:17] <DJGreen> i'm freelance
[11:17] <trappist> err
[11:18] <Red-Sox> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: then register it
[11:18] <trappist> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: /nick newnick
[11:18] <BlueDevil> DJGreen: you stream from your home ssl wrapped? :)
[11:18] <DJGreen> nope
[11:18] <trappist> awesome
[11:18] <Red-Sox> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: newnick being your next nick
[11:18] <DJGreen> qt server
[11:18] <DJGreen> using osx
[11:18] <Red-Sox> oh
[11:18] <FlimFlamMan> if someone wants to go through the trouble of man-in-the-middle for a NSync track, i say let them
[11:18] <trappist> <3 sophuslie
[11:18] <lawrence> What's qt server....same as KDE's qt?
[11:18] <DJGreen> no
[11:18] <DJGreen> quicktime as in apple's player
[11:19] <DJGreen> quicktime server
[11:19] <lawrence> oh ok
[11:19] <BlueDevil> FlimFlamMan: i was only replying to "<DJGreen> this way peopel can't steal my shit" :)
[11:19] <DJGreen> most dj's use their laptops to play off their mixes
[11:19] <DJGreen> i never leave my mixes on my laptop
[11:20] <DJGreen> if i stepped away it can be copied
[11:20] <DJGreen> so i just ssh to my box at home and tap the quicktime server
[11:20] <DJGreen> and stream them live
[11:20] <njan> DJGreen, lock your laptop when you're away from it?
[11:20] <DJGreen> not when you're running a gig
[11:20] <BlueDevil> you could get a usb key
[11:21] <njan> DJGreen, why not? use an account with a four-character password just for gigs, it'd take seconds to unlock.
[11:21] <DJGreen> you use your laptop to maintain everything even your switchboard and turntables
[11:21] <DJGreen> nah ..
[11:21] <njan> DJGreen, and that way you wouldn't have the worry that if your connectivity died, you'd be musicless.
[11:21] <DJGreen> i haven't had any trouble
[11:22] <shinu> why would a program tell me it cant open some high ports for listening?
[11:22] <seriesx> In a terminal, how do I handle filenames that start with "-" ? GUI's can handle them but I don't know how to type
[11:22] <njan> DJGreen, well, since you're still doing it that way, I'd expect that. :-P
[11:22] <shinu> netstat |grep port_number doesnt return anything
[11:22] <DJGreen> to me ssh is the easiest way
[11:22] <njan> DJGreen, it's quite an elegant way, but I wouldn't do it that way, personally.
[11:22] <navarone> DJGreen, you can even get fingerprint scanning usb drives...you can put media on the usb and no one can get it without fingerscan
[11:22] <njan> navarone, but once playing someone could come along and copy it
[11:22] <njan> navarone, which I believe is what he's worried about.
[11:22] <FlimFlamMan> DJGreen, i'd be worried that there'd be a network issue during a gig
[11:22] <DJGreen> well my purpose isnt really security
[11:22] <popey> how would they copy it?
[11:23] <njan> popey, usb key?
[11:23] <popey> just disable the usb ports to stop idle plugging
[11:23] <DJGreen> how it's all hardlined
[11:23] <BlueDevil> seriesx: escape it
[11:23] <SWAT> bor, no not yet. What version of cdrtools is currently on my system? It's not a package so how can I check?
[11:23] <DJGreen> there's no wireless
[11:23] <seriesx> BlueDevil, how?
[11:23] <FlimFlamMan> wireless or not
[11:23] <popey> rename the usbcore.ko module :)
[11:23] <njan> FlimFlamMan, ditto, me too.
[11:23] <bor> SWAT: you can check it with cdrecord --version
[11:23] <njan> Having worked for an ISP I know wayyy better than to rely on one internet connection, especially a consumer one, for anything like that ;)
[11:23] <FlimFlamMan> "and now, DJGreen will entertain us with some magic tricks."
[11:24] <DJGreen> i'm not worried about that anyway .. i just ssh into my computer and stream
[11:24] <SWAT> bor, that would be 2.01.01a01
[11:24] <DJGreen> no point on elaborating technicality
[11:24] <BlueDevil> seriesx: \-
[11:24] <njan> DJGreen, what *would* you do if the internet connection died?
[11:24] <Jxpx> someone know how can i put a ackick in a chanel (i am the founder of course)
[11:24] <seriesx> dousn't work
[11:24] <FlimFlamMan> soft-shoe?
[11:24] <DJGreen> just like any gig continue the show
[11:24] <MeeKs> im looking to mess with linux a bit, would ubuntu be a good start? or something like mandrake beter
[11:24] <phyburn> nice i have a ununtu desktop up
[11:24] <DJGreen> like the power goes out
[11:24] <phyburn> byby W$!
[11:24] <DJGreen> you do it manually
[11:25] <DJGreen> the show doesnt stop
[11:25] <njan> DJGreen, how, if you didn't have an internet connection?
[11:25] <FlimFlamMan> with what? the ubuntu log-off jingle?
[11:25] <Jxpx> someone know how can i put a ackick in a chanel (i am the founder of course)?
[11:25] <njan> Jxpx, you asked that already.
[11:25] <Jxpx> so ?
[11:25] <bor> SWAT: hm, the same version the package in dapper has
[11:25] <Killer3k> Meeks - Ubuntu should be fine
[11:25] <njan> Jxpx, so it's annoying your asking it again - I was typing you a response.
[11:25] <DJGreen> if i didnt have interent there's the love of dvd
[11:25] <MeeKs> ive never used before
[11:25] <Jxpx> ok
[11:25] <FlimFlamMan> oh
[11:25] <Jxpx> thanks
[11:25] <DJGreen> *internet
[11:25] <SWAT> bor, that means the development version (mention in the comment) is far older and the stable version (after that) is used in Ubuntu Breezy. Still strange the error persists
[11:25] <MeeKs> i might try a live cd
[11:25] <Killer3k> Meeks: I never used it until an hour ago :D
[11:25] <DJGreen> but that's cuttin it a bit i dont like to carry my stuff with me
[11:25] <MeeKs> how do you like
[11:26] <DJGreen> other than my quip
[11:26] <navarone> njan, his internet connection was only needed to access offsite box and stream mixes from it...I think without connection he could just contuinue using whatever music he had onhand
[11:26] <Killer3k> Meeks: I am very VERY impressed
[11:26] <Jxpx> someone know how can i put a ban in a channel?
[11:26] <MeeKs> ill have to go get the ppc version
[11:26] <DJGreen> digital is better than old lp
[11:26] <Ishotweb> errrr so my wine install is asking me for the root password.... that's the password i've been using every time i ran something with sudo, right?
[11:26] <njan> navarone, so if he's carrying stuff on him, unless he has MAC-controlled tiers of music, that makes the online stream redundant. :P
[11:26] <DJGreen> heh ..
[11:26] <Killer3k> Meeks: you have a mac?
[11:26] <Ishotweb> becuase that password isn't working
[11:26] <DJGreen> but lp is classic and every dj knows
[11:26] <ompaul> Jxpx, you need to be an op
[11:26] <GNAM> where's BEN COLLINS?
[11:26] <Jxpx> i am
[11:26] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: no, that's not the password
[11:26] <Jxpx> i am ompaul
[11:27] <MeeKs> yea killer i do
[11:27] <jordan121887> what is the easiest way to install network manageer, and where can i get it?
[11:27] <DJGreen> but let's get something straight y'all i'm no big guy here i'm a little man with skills of dj
[11:27] <SWAT> bor, do you have any great idea's how to solve this? :(
[11:27] <njan> Jxpx, /mode #channel +b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:27] <DJGreen> graduated from NYU
[11:27] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: the password you use with sudo is you owm
[11:27] <njan> s/ost/host/
[11:27] <BlueDevil> own
[11:27] <Killer3k> Meeks: well I aint sure how it will go on that, but on my x86 it worked flawlessly
[11:27] <Jxpx> ompaul,  so u know how can i ban?
[11:27] <Lewix> hi all
[11:27] <navarone> njan>beyond the technical...the point is he would only use internet connectiivty to accessa file he had offsite...playing music otherwise does not require it
[11:27] <DJGreen> so what i do is for living not for show
[11:27] <DJGreen> :)
[11:27] <MeeKs> should actually work better than x86
[11:28] <MeeKs> since hardware is proprietary
[11:28] <ompaul> Jxpx, I don't but my client does - xchat
[11:28] <Ishotweb> BlueDevil, ahhh i understand i was mistaking sudo for root
[11:28] <bor> SWAT: no, not really, I'll look at the sources for the USE_LARGEFILES define and how to enable it
[11:28] <Killer3k> Meeks: It even went and picked up that I have extra buttons on my keyboard and programed that perfect!!!
[11:28] <Jxpx> ok
[11:28] <DJGreen> here's the plus .. i use ubuntu on my lappy
[11:28] <Lewix> I need some help
[11:28] <njan> navarone, right, and my point was that he said the reason he didn't use music locally was to stop people copying it. If he has stuff onsite anyway, in case the online feed goes down, it makes the online feed redundant because he *has* music onsite.
[11:28] <Lewix> I've downloaded the dvd iso
[11:28] <Killer3k> Meeks: yes i agree, it should work better
[11:28] <MeeKs> yeah what kind of laptop would i need to run  ubuntu
[11:28] <Lewix> I mean I can't dl it
[11:28] <ompaul> Lewix, can you put the question in one line - the whole one
[11:28] <njan> MeeKs, practically any new laptop will run it
[11:29] <MeeKs> specs
[11:29] <MeeKs> ?
[11:29] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: you can set the root password using "sudo passwd root"
[11:29] <njan> MeeKs, are you asking about a new PC re: what sort you should get, or asking about a second hand PC for a minimum spec?
[11:29] <bor> SWAT: there is a new version at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/
[11:29] <opnsrc> I moved accessibility in the menu editor to Office
[11:29] <bor> SWAT: a03
[11:29] <navarone> njan> the music he said he didn't want  to have people access was his mixes...which he did not carry on gigs...hence the steraming if neccessary
[11:29] <Ishotweb> BlueDevil,  thanks for the help
[11:29] <opnsrc> (I'm using Ubuntu)
[11:29] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: so then you would be able to use that
[11:29] <DJGreen> believe it or not my lappy is powerbook 17
[11:29] <MeeKs> njan: i want to get a laptop for it
[11:29] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: yw
[11:29] <jordan121887> can anyone tell me how to put network manager on my computer>>>
[11:29] <DJGreen> an apple lapbox
[11:29] <DJGreen> :)
[11:29] <MeeKs> but dont want to spend a lot
[11:29] <Killer3k> Meeks: you could use any i suppose
[11:29] <ompaul> Ishotweb, you should not do that -  you should use sudo
[11:29] <opnsrc> (accidently) so I went back to change it back and when I do it still shows under Office (though with the Menu editor it does not)
[11:29] <njan> MeeKs, virtually any laptop you buy will probably run ubuntu.
[11:29] <opnsrc> how do I fix it?
[11:29] <DJGreen> its for the lady magnet affect ya know
[11:29] <DJGreen> glow the apple and get the babes
[11:29] <SWAT> bor, would you do that for me? (look at the sources) And I know about the newer development version (would be logical if it would've been fixed in the stable though)
[11:30] <Lewix> arf
[11:30] <Ishotweb> ompaul, in this case i need a root password
[11:30] <Kruz> i know this isnt exactly on topic but anyone here good with ettercap and could answer a question or two
[11:30] <njan> MeeKs, find the laptop, google it or look it up on the ubuntu wiki to see if there are any issues with that particular laptop, but I'd imagine any budget laptop from dell or toshiba would run ubuntu fine.
[11:30] <MeeKs> cool
[11:30] <bor> SWAT: mkisofs/Makefile:CPPOPTS +=-DUSE_LARGEFILES, seems to be if this version could work
[11:30] <MeeKs> is there a spec page?
[11:30] <navarone> DJGreen, the ladies like macs I take it...lol
[11:30] <kibab_> hey all... what's the best way to configure a network card post-install? I can manually run ifconfig/dhcpc and get it up.... but I would presume there is something that will create the necessary config files for me?
[11:30] <BlueDevil> ompaul: don't get all pedantic about sudo/su :P
[11:30] <ompaul> Ishotweb, if you do that and you need to start the machine in single user mode youwill be locked out
[11:30] <njan> Kruz, ask, and if someone knows hnow to answer, they will.
[11:30] <SWAT> bor, which version? (current ubuntu version?:)
[11:30] <UncleD> Am I correct in that if I format a floppy disk and put files on it in WINDOWSXP and then load it up on ubuntu, ill be unable to mount it and access those files?
[11:30] <DJGreen> oh i was just messin about the lady part hopefully and most deffinitely not geeks
[11:30] <njan> MeeKs, there's a laptop compatibility page on the wiki somewhere.
[11:30] <BlueDevil> ompaul: why would he be locked out?
[11:30] <DJGreen> i'd hate to bash in geeks for liking my laptop and not my gig
[11:31] <MeeKs> oh i meant general specs
[11:31] <MeeKs> system requirements
[11:31] <ompaul> BlueDevil, do it and see if you can get in without the password ...... that is how it works
[11:31] <njan> MeeKs, any laptop you buy new today will run ubuntu
[11:31] <bor> SWAT: 2.01.01a03 (ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/cdrtools-2.01.01a03.tar.gz)
[11:31] <njan> MeeKs, you couldn't buy a new laptop which was below the ubuntu minimum requirements.
[11:31] <BlueDevil> ompaul: without what password?
[11:31] <bor> SWAT: wait a second, I'll test it on a 4 GB file
[11:31] <Kruz> OK, ive been running ettercap for a while, can get unencrypted clear text pw's that have been on my network, but i was wondering about / how to get the encrypted web PWs (gmail, hotmail, etc) i have heard it is doable, i just havent been able to find it anywhere on the net
[11:31] <UncleD> Anyone know about mounting flopys formatted in windowsXP on ubuntu? Is it a problem?
[11:31] <MeeKs> i want to nkow what ubuntus sys requirements are
[11:31] <navarone> Meeks...you can try live cd first and see how hardware detection goes
[11:31] <BlueDevil> ompaul: he has both passwords: his and root's
[11:31] <njan> Kruz, gmail and hotmail are both encrypted with tls/ssl
[11:31] <DJGreen> ettercap .. isnt nmap better?
[11:31] <SWAT> bor, try 4.2 or 4.3 gb (just in case :P)
[11:32] <njan> Kruz, you'd have to actually crack https in order to do that, and that's hard.
[11:32] <kibab_> UncleD: no problem... just mount them msdos or vfat... (or auto)
[11:32] <ompaul> BlueDevil, the newley choosen root password - what happens is people forget it cose they don't use it daily - we see this time and again
[11:32] <njan> DJGreen, they're completely different applications. :P
[11:32] <compDo> is there a tool to display all available modes (resolution) my video card supports?
[11:32] <DJGreen> that's what i thought
[11:32] <pcnrmn> irc.immortal-anime.net
[11:32] <Ishotweb> i'd assume i'm smart enough to remember two different passwords
[11:32] <bor> SWAT: ok :)
[11:32] <Lewix> I would like to dl the dvd,where can I?
[11:32] <DJGreen> you know i need to ask this ..
[11:32] <BlueDevil> ompaul: you cand invent software to be immune to stupidity
[11:32] <ompaul> Ishotweb, your call - you don't need it so why use
[11:32] <DJGreen> how can you view wmv files on ubuntu?
[11:33] <UncleD> Is it possible to mount a windowsXP floppy disk on ubuntu that contains files ?
[11:33] <Ishotweb> ompaul, then what am i supposed to do if my wine install is asking for my root password?
[11:33] <DJGreen> i know for pc folks its rather easy
[11:33] <DJGreen> but what can i use ?
[11:33] <MeeKs> convert them
[11:33] <ompaul> Ishotweb, sudo it
[11:33] <Kruz> i see, i was reading some docs on dsniff and it said by using hosts, it could see them plain text, by tunneling, i tried a combo of dsniff, arpspoof, webmitm, like the doc said, but couldnt get it, is there a way to do it that way, or am i SOL
[11:33] <navarone> UncleD, you should be able to
[11:33] <FlimFlamMan> UncleD, why not just try?  doesn't xp make vfat format floppies by default?
[11:33] <ompaul> Ishotweb, did you install it using synaptic / apt-get ?
[11:33] <Necrocide> I got a question about installing ClearLooks with the .deb package on Ubuntu forums, I see NOTHING changed???
[11:33] <ompaul> Ishotweb, or did you compile it?
[11:33] <UncleD> FlimFlamMan - I guess maybe that was the problem, old floppies?
[11:34] <UncleD> FlimFlam: I did try and it hung for 10 minutes
[11:34] <UncleD> it never mounted
[11:34] <Ishotweb> ompaul, i needed to modify the source, so i couldn't just install the binary. i compiled it
[11:34] <jason__> Hello all! Just installed Ubuntu 5.10 yesterday. Decided to get a wireless card today.
[11:34] <BlueDevil> ompaul: besides if he is worried he will forget the root password he can set it the same as his own; not a good practice though
[11:34] <kibab_> UncleD: perhaps it's bad then... linux doesn't have any problems reading floppies (xp or otherwise)
[11:34] <opnsrc> anyone know how to make the menu editor in sync with the menu?
[11:34] <Ishotweb> ompaul, if i sudo it it aborts, telling me it's not advisable to run wineinstall as root.
[11:34] <opnsrc> or th ething that says edit menus
[11:34] <UncleD> kibab_ - maybe its due to the disks being old floppys?
[11:34] <opnsrc> for some reason it's not in sync
[11:34] <kibab_> UncleD: very likely.
[11:34] <FlimFlamMan> UncleD, floppies *suck*, especially old ones.  i've had better luck formatting new floppies on a linux box, then using them in xp.  sometimes floppies work best in the floppy drive unit that formats them
[11:34] <UncleD> kibab, so ill basically need a new floppy
[11:35] <ompaul> Ishotweb, try this:: sudo -i  :: then try the instll
[11:35] <kibab_> UncleD: yeah... basically.
[11:35] <ompaul> Ishotweb, but consider what you are doing first
[11:35] <UncleD> these floppys are probably 5 years old
[11:35] <jason__> Found a tutorial to add it but it says before doing anything to add ndiswrapper-utils but I cannot find it in the Package Manager
[11:35] <FlimFlamMan> UncleD, if they're the *only* floppies you have, try formatting them as vfat on the linux side, then use them on the windows side
[11:36] <kibab_> Is there a tool for configuring network cards / changing network settings in ubuntu?
[11:36] <jason__> How do I get ndiswrapper-utils if it's not in the Synaptics Package Manager?
[11:36] <DJGreen> anyone play doom3 yet on ubuntu?
[11:36] <DJGreen> :)