[08:17] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: hostapd is not running, but eth0 is definitely bound to the hostap kernel module, which is inserted
[08:17] <JoeUK> its too full in here
[08:17] <wastrel> cullen:  you don't need anything - you can just install the full desktop if you don't already have it :]
[08:17] <cullen> huhhhhh
[08:17] <twitch> anyone at all?
[08:17] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: if it doesn't work it's 'cos you're not trying hard enough!
[08:17] <gnomefreak> !wmv > cullen
[08:17] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: could you explain the concept/use of a virtual interface? Where does it come from? How can it be managed?
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: Have you tried using wpa_supplicant
[08:17] <Tiako> Is there a restore option?
[08:17] <wastrel> JoeUK:  dual boot- you'd install windows first, then linux
[08:17] <bruenig> cullen, wastrel is right but yes you do need the desktop edition if you want ubuntu-desktop to be installed by default
[08:17] <kbrosnan> ubotu, tell twitch about firefox
[08:17] <JoeUK> yeah
[08:18] <JoeUK> i have windows installed
[08:18] <gnomefreak> cullen: the pm from ubotu should help you
[08:18] <cullen> why dont it install
[08:18] <luddite> or suffer teh wrath of grub
[08:18] <please> because i have to partitions on u drive'
[08:18] <wastrel> JoeUK:  grub is the boot loader which will allow you to choose which OS to boot
[08:18] <onikos> My kernel version says "2.6.15-23", but what I'm downloading is "2.6.15-25". Do you think there will be any incompatibilities?
[08:18] <twitch> ive tried ubotu already
[08:18] <JoeUK> does grub have a GUI?
[08:18] <twitch> i have wmv files streaming
[08:18] <cullen> thats gay
[08:18] <bruenig> twitch, the mplayer plugin works well for me
[08:18] <cullen> it said the desktop edition was temporary
[08:18] <JoeUK> at the booting end of things
[08:18] <luddite> grub is command line
[08:18] <bruenig> !info mplayer
[08:18] <JoeUK> i mean
[08:18] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[08:18] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: Its so you can connect to multiple wireless networks at the same time if you want (I wondered the same thing when I first installed madwifi-ng)
[08:18] <wastrel> JoeUK:  it's sortof like the windows boot loader if you have multiple windows OS versions.
[08:18] <JoeUK> when im booting my machine
[08:18] <twitch> theres no description on how to get the mplayer plugin working on Dapper
[08:18] <wastrel> so it's sortof a gui but it's just a menu
[08:18] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: I don't see how that's applicable. I don't know why this driver is loaded in the frst place. I don't have a prism based card; I have an orinoco card.
[08:18] <JoeUK> can i set it to automatically load windows after x seconds unless i say something
[08:18] <wastrel> JoeUK:  yes
[08:19] <rodeno>
[08:19] <JoeUK> how?
[08:19] <Lamego> JoeUK, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:19] <Wipster> ok realy realy newbie question here, I have to 'make' this program whats the command for a compiler if there is one built in that is
[08:19] <JoeUK> meh
[08:19] <JoeUK> im a linux n00b
[08:19] <Lamego> Wipster, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:19] <JoeUK> http://linuxgazette.net/107/misc/tomar/grub.jpg
[08:19] <apokryphos> Wipster: check the FAQ
[08:19] <twitch> ive tried ubuntuguide.org
[08:19] <Healot> !info build-essential
[08:19] <JoeUK> does linux look like that?
[08:19] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[08:19] <cullen> ubuntu sucks
[08:20] <please> can anyone help me
[08:20] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: still, what creates the virtual device wifi0?
[08:20] <Lamego> !anyone
[08:20] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:20] <JoeUK> i mean
[08:20] <bruenig> ci;;em. wjat os upir [rpb;e,
[08:20] <JoeUK> grub
[08:20] <wastrel> JoeUK:  that's just the bootloader, the ubuntu one looks similar
[08:20] <wastrel> yes
[08:20] <bruenig> cullen, what is your problem
[08:20] <JoeUK> okay wastrel
[08:20] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: i was gonna give him another shot at that one ;) but ty
[08:20] <luddite> the answer to my question is yes, you can use update-rc.d to remove services
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: The driver usually if it supports linux wireless extensions properly
[08:20] <rodeno> please what happened?
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: Just setup wpa_supplicant use wext as the driver and eth0 for the interface
[08:21] <please> i have 2 partitions on my drive both ext2 and i can see the 2 one but i can not do anything with it
[08:21] <JoeUK> wastrel
[08:21] <JoeUK> when im installing it
[08:21] <JoeUK> should i plug out all my USB stuff?
[08:21] <Sivik> does anyone here use nvclock?
[08:22] <wastrel> JoeUK:  i'm not an expert on the installer, only used it once :]
[08:22] <The_Guardian> anyone here know how to get privoxy to work with IRC?
[08:22] <luddite> ok folks, i want to tweak my ubuntu install... what services did you all turn off?
[08:22] <onikos> joeuk: I had to plug out my usb adsl device in suse, but not in ubuntu!
[08:22] <luddite> cause it's a memory hog...
[08:23] <onikos> JoeUK: (all this in the installation process, that was not what you meant?)
[08:23] <luddite> i turned off pcmcia and ppp
[08:23] <rodeno> turn off bittorrent and acpi if not needed
[08:23] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: I still do not see how that is applicable. wpa_supplicant is an implementation of 802.11i. I have the wrong driver for my 802.11b device loaded. It's loading the hostap driver, I need the orinoco driver.
[08:23] <bruenig> twitch, don't know if anyone told you but to install mplayer plugin, make sure extra repositories are enabled and then do this in the command line sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:23] <luddite> ok, thats niext
[08:23] <Healot> The_Guardian: read the FAQ on privoxy/tor site
[08:23] <JoeUK> yeah onikos
[08:23] <JoeUK> like my pocketpc
[08:23] <JoeUK> wifi
[08:23] <JoeUK> bluetooth
[08:23] <JoeUK> vacuum cleaner
[08:23] <JoeUK> webcams
[08:23] <JoeUK> tv cards
[08:23] <apokryphos> !enter
[08:23] <JoeUK> such?
[08:23] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:23] <rodeno> he he
[08:23] <michas> !tell michas about updates
[08:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about updates
[08:23] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: It will work with hostap imo
[08:23] <michaelfavia> is there a way to install desktop ubuntu dapper without booting into liveCD first ... it takes forever....
[08:24] <harisund> michaelfavia I think you can use the alternate CD
[08:24] <wastrel> please:  system->administration->disks  does that help at all?
[08:24] <apokryphos> michaelfavia: yes, use the alternate CD, see the FAQ
[08:24] <bruenig> michael favia, you can use the alternate
[08:24] <please> no
[08:24] <michaelfavia> i will thx...
[08:24] <Dial_tone> is 'dpkg -l' just installed pkgs?
[08:24] <rodeno> ya install any distro and install ubuntu-desktop
[08:24] <apokryphos> Dial_tone: yes
[08:24] <harisund> Dial_tone not necessarily
[08:24] <please> becuase i can see i just can not put anything on it
[08:24] <wastrel> please:  you may need to edit /etc/fstab to mount the drive rw instead of ro  (read/write vs read only)
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: It supports the linux wireless extensions and appears to initialise correctly
[08:24] <Dial_tone> ok, which one is it?
[08:25] <harisund> Dial_tone sometimes it lists unpacked but not installed packages. To ensure only installed packages are printed use "dpkg --l | grep ^ii"
[08:25] <wastrel> please:  you may also need to add a 'user' flag to the mount options
[08:25] <please> well this is what the fstab says  /dev/hda3       /media/hda3      ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 1 2
[08:25] <harisund> Installed packages are listed beginning with "ii" in the dpkg -l listing. using the grep pipe you can filter out the installed programs alone
[08:25] <Dial_tone> ok, thanks
[08:25] <jedi__> ubuntu ROCKS!!
[08:26] <jedi__> :D
[08:26] <harisund> I agree jedi__ :)
[08:26] <ompaul> jedi__, understatement ;-)
[08:26] <jedi__> I just installed it with kde desktop I love it... just so easy to set up
[08:26] <wastrel> please:  try changing nouser to user
[08:27] <id10t> 'lo all... what do i need to apt-get install to be able to build packages from source?
[08:27] <apokryphos> id10t: check the FAQ
[08:27] <Answer> Help!  how do I uninstall or turn off power management?  (hopefully from the command line)
[08:27] <Sivik> id10t, you have to have the src repos open
[08:27] <luddite> ok what other tweaks do you all suggest to spead up ubuntu
[08:27] <please> any thing else
[08:27] <Sivik> luddite: get more ram
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> Dial_tone: I think dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size;-10} ${status;-25} ${Package}\n' | sort -n (looks nicer)
[08:28] <luddite> i got 4 gb
[08:28] <luddite> can't get no more
[08:28] <Sivik> luddite: then how slow is your machine?  what kind of cpu?
[08:28] <Sivik> luddite: are you that impatient that 4 gb isn't fast enough
[08:28] <var> I'm a luddite, also.
[08:28] <var> I hate those newfangled contraptions.
[08:28] <Dial_tone> thanks, h3sp4wn
[08:28] <ompaul> woops this is not offtopic
[08:29] <gnomefreak> lol ompaul
[08:29] <aaronc> why does it take forever for ping to send packets?
[08:29] <var> luddite: ever read Vonnegut?
[08:29] <Sivik> aaronc, maybe because you network is slow?
[08:29] <J-_> man, i installed gdesklets from a repo, figured it didn't work, but it's in the system tray, didn't know it was at the time, thought i messed up the install =P
[08:29] <Sivik> aaronc, what kind of connection do you have
[08:29] <aaronc> Sivik: I'm not talking about the ms return time... I'm talking about the time between sending packets
[08:29] <var> I'm having a break in dependencies with adept package manager -- I'm fairly noob, I'm trying to install typo-env, I got base installed, but now i need env and site
[08:29] <Cornellius> What's the best way to install Reiser4 on U/K/Xubuntu ?
[08:29] <please> anything else i should change dev/hda3       /media/hda3      ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 1 2
[08:29] <Sivik> aaronc: thats pretty normal
[08:29] <Answer> Help!  how do I uninstall or turn off power management?  (hopefully from the command line)
[08:29] <aaronc> Sivik: no it isn't
[08:29] <Mastastealth> I just setup my wireless USB adapter with ndiswrapper, but it appears its not very friendly with Network Manager. NM shows the networks in range, but they all appear with 100% signal. I connect to mine (which was WPA, but is now open) to test it, and NM still can't connect. However a ifdown and ifup of that card works fine, yet NM still doesn't report a connection...can NM be fixed?
[08:30] <Sivik> aaronc: not sure
[08:30] <Sivik> sometimes mine is slow
[08:30] <wastrel> please:  did it work with user instead of nouser?
[08:30] <aaronc> Are there any other network issues with Ubuntu other than ipv6 modules?
[08:30] <aaronc> speaking specifically about dapper drake
[08:30] <J-_> where's a good place to get gdesklet themes?
[08:30] <please> do not know i got to restart
[08:30] <luddite> well my cpu isn't the issue, i installed breezy upgraded to dapper, installed nvidia-glx and then cedega... i played a couple of games, when i logged out/rebooted gdm is broken.. i'm a tad bit frustrated
[08:30] <flobee> DCC SEND is-unbutu-open-source-or-not 0 0 0
[08:30] <wastrel> please:  you don't have to restart
[08:30] <kash> ahahahah
[08:30] <kash> you all must reboot
[08:30] <I_Eat_Plastic> :o
[08:31] <please> what just save
[08:31] <luddite> if you do have to restart, sudo shutdown -r now
[08:31] <Starl1ng> luddite:
[08:31] <please> nope
[08:31] <please> did not work
[08:31] <Wipster> ok I have the program made how do I execute it.........
[08:31] <Sivik> all you have to do to restart if type sudo reboot
[08:31] <Sivik> not all that other crap
[08:31] <neutrinomass> Hm... what part of the Dee Cee Cee string is the exploit? Is it the three zeroes ?
[08:32] <wastrel> please:  you have to unmount & remount the drive
[08:32] <Toge> hello
[08:32] <Sivik> Toge: whats your question/problem
[08:32] <Toge> if i stop gdm with "stop gdm", how can I restart it? I tried "start gdm" but i doesn't run
[08:32] <Mastastealth> how do i run network manager in debug mode?
[08:33] <Answer> gdm restart
[08:33] <apokryphos> Toge: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:33] <Toge> thanks
[08:33] <lmadre> hola
[08:33] <Starl1ng> neutrinomass: Is I remember the IRC-protocol correctly the "three zeroes" would be ip-number and port where you should connect to start downloading the file sent to you.
[08:33] <twitch> anyone else having problems with webpage layout?
[08:33] <wastrel> no problems with webpage layout
[08:33] <animato> hello, i just compiled my first kernel ever, 2.6.16, but for some reason i can't see usplash. is there a way to fix it without re-compiling all over again?
[08:33] <MikkelRev> Does anyone here use seti@home? When I try to install it, it fails to connect to the berkely server, and tries again and again and again... Anything wrong?
[08:34] <J-_> where's a good place to get gdesklet themes?
[08:34] <Seveas> !dcc
[08:34] <lmadre> habladme en espaol please!
[08:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about dcc
[08:34] <Seveas> !es
[08:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:34] <J-_> !gdesklet
[08:34] <Toge> i cant restart it, "gdm restart" doesnt work, and "gdm start" neither
[08:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about gdesklet
[08:34] <please> nope
[08:35] <Seveas> !gdesklet is <alias> gdesklets
[08:35] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:35] <Answer> Toge, I never had luck with gdm... i just reboot
[08:35] <lmadre> hello
[08:35] <lmadre> kiero espaol
[08:35] <apokryphos> !es
[08:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:35] <luddite> evms is what kind of $sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:35] <neutrinomass> Starl1ng: Oh makes sense. The frequency of it was greatly reduced lately so I thought somehow freenode staff managed to fix it.  If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware
[08:36] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:36] <Seveas> !exploit is <alias> dcc
[08:36] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:36] <wastrel> Seveas:  upgrade firmware?  you can just connect to a different port - i thought it only works if you're on 6667
[08:37] <ompaul> wastrel, changing to 8001 works
[08:37] <wastrel> exactly
[08:37] <Seveas> wastrel, that won't work for all IRC networks
[08:37] <Seveas> many only use port 6667
[08:37] <GigaClon> in some cases its downgradeing firmware
[08:37] <wastrel> you're selfless Seveas ;]   i was just thinking of here
[08:37] <ompaul> wastrel, better to upgrade
[08:37] <wastrel> i suppose
[08:37] <GigaClon> not all servers are affected
[08:38] <please> wastrel that did not work
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: Do you know which routers by any chance ?
[08:38] <GigaClon> http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[08:38] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, linksys and another brand which I forgot, but not all types
[08:38] <GigaClon> thats a link i found
[08:38] <wastrel> please:  what error are you getting?
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: If its linksys they can probably just install openwrt
[08:39] <GigaClon> netgear 614 and 624
[08:39] <OneKiD> DCC SEND hashhashcomgcompilerz 0 0 0
[08:39] <luddite> faster reboot
[08:39] <Seveas> !dcc =~ s/$/ - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[08:39] <ubotu> Missing end delimiter
[08:39] <Seveas> !dcc =~ s/$/ - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068/
[08:39] <ubotu> You used the delimiter too often. Maybe try another one?
[08:39] <luddite> what's the name of the service for large volume manager? (LVM) is it EVMS?
[08:39] <Seveas> !dcc =~ s#$# - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068#
[08:39] <Raito> I installed pcsx from a package, (pcsx-bin), but how does it work? typing pcsx in run causes nothing to happen. How come?
[08:39] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:40] <please> access denied to /media/hda3
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Seveas: time to +r?
[08:40] <ompaul> gnomefreak, one more
[08:40] <gnomefreak> ok
[08:40] <Seveas> DCC SE.. eh wait ;)
[08:40] <wastrel> heh
[08:40] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas
[08:40] <rebelde> hola
[08:40] <J-_> i just opened synaptic, the following occured:W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:40] <J-_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:40] <J-_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:40] <rebelde> hay alguien o ke?
[08:40] <wastrel> please:  get rid of all those flags and just use 'defaults' maybe.
[08:40] <Seveas> !es
[08:40] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:41] <J-_> sorry
[08:41] <gnomefreak> J-_: use pastebin to paste
[08:41] <J-_> :S
[08:41] <please> what are flags
[08:41] <LoRez> Md: someone play with dcc stuff again
[08:41] <J-_> ok
[08:41] <ompaul> J-_, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:41] <rebelde> oyeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
[08:41] <ompaul> LoRez, that ain't playing ;-/
[08:41] <wastrel> please:  the options, in the options column in fstab
[08:42] <luddite> what provides better support for nvidia, dapper or breezy
[08:42] <Wipster> ok I'm in the directory of this unrar thign from terminal but when I say unrar it doesn't run the program it says unknown command, how do I run it :/
[08:42] <ompaul> ** Note ** For those of you who suddenly quit there please upgrade your router firmware
[08:42] <Hexidigital_> luddite:: imo, dapper
[08:42] <ompaul> !dcc
[08:42] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[08:43] <GigaClon> some people can
[08:43] <gnomefreak> luddite: i didnt see such a big difference
[08:43] <GigaClon> err can't upgrade the firmware
[08:43] <rebelde> hay alguien o no
[08:43] <J-_> anything on my poblem I have?
[08:43] <rebelde> ??
[08:43] <ompaul> !es
[08:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:43] <Hexidigital_> ompaul:: those who quit where? (i just got here, and missed the beginning)
[08:43] <Raito> Anyone know where to put bios files for pcsx?
[08:43] <J-_> i pasted, then got kicked. or should i ust pastebin and paste the url in here?
[08:43] <J-_> use*
[08:43] <GigaClon> ya
[08:43] <ompaul> J-_, yes
[08:44] <J-_> k
[08:44] <gnomefreak> J-_: yes
[08:44] <relix> I'm having trouble with my GRUB, can't seem to start Windows anymore. Error 12: Invalid device requested
[08:44] <__mikem> Did you know if you get your eyes dilated, you can see the screen refresh
[08:44] <ompaul> Hexidigital_, there were about 15 who got hit
[08:44] <GigaClon> !offtopic
[08:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:44] <relix> rootnoverify (hd0,4), savedefault, makeactive, chainloader +1
[08:44] <rebelde> oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:44] <luddite> ok how many of you have had issues with asus sli boards?
[08:44] <Hexidigital_> ompaul:: does that link have a list of affected routerS?
[08:44] <ompaul> !es
[08:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:44] <ompaul> !dcc
[08:44] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[08:44] <please> what should it look like if i remove the flags
[08:45] <Hexidigital_> thx ompaul
[08:45] <ompaul> Hexidigital_, read ubotu
[08:45] <wastrel> please:  just use  defaults
[08:45] <__mikem> ompaul, did something just happen in the chanel
[08:45] <MrBallZ> hi, anyone knows if Firefox can identify itself as internet explorer ... ?
[08:46] <kbrosnan> Yes the user agent switcher extension
[08:46] <ompaul> !test
[08:46] <ubotu> test is The test is complete.
[08:46] <Seveas> !forget test
[08:46] <Hexidigital_> of course, i have one of those routers :/
[08:46] <MrBallZ> let me see
[08:46] <Znortfl> Hey, anybody got a clue on how to use an iPod on ubuntu breezy?
[08:46] <__mikem> Seveas, did I just mis something, it looks like the room is recovering from that exploit
[08:46] <thechris> nfs RPC issue on an older ubuntu computer
[08:47] <Dial_tone> Znortfl, install gtk-pod?
[08:47] <wastrel> !ipod
[08:47] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[08:47] <bleaked> so, i just rebooted and my system dumped me into the BusyBox shell with the following error: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off  -  so what might this mean?
[08:47] <Znortfl> thanks wastrel
[08:47] <Znortfl> Dial_tone, I tried yeah
[08:47] <please> no
[08:48] <bleaked> Znortfl: what do you need to know about pods?
[08:48] <thechris> the wiki just goes on and on about autofs.  i just want nfs
[08:48] <thechris> but the RPC issues prevent me from using nfs in ubuntu
[08:48] <Znortfl> bleaked: I'd like to play music on my new iPod nano, by using my linux pc to get files on it
[08:48] <Minty_> Have a link to my win partition, but cannot get it to mount in the computer, have tied thi http://pastebin.ca/73330  but to no avail, any help please
[08:48] <Waerner> If I wish to use another compiler than GCC4, how do I do? I have a weak memory telling me to write something like CCX=gcc3.3 ?
[08:49] <riddlebox> Znortfl, you can use sharpmusique to do it
[08:49] <Znortfl> riddlebox, will try thanks
[08:49] <Seveas> Waerner, mixing gcc4 and gcc < 3.4 on a system will be problematic if you eant to use C++
[08:49] <J-_> here's the url, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16649
[08:49] <MikkelRev> Does anyone here use seti@home? When I try to install it, it fails to connect to the berkely server, and tries again and again and again... Anything wrong?
[08:49] <Znortfl> riddlebox, is that an existing package in the repo?
[08:49] <bleaked> Znortfl: well, i use kde, so there's a nice kio-slave that automounts it, and the media player amaroK has full ipod support.  unfortunately in gnome, the options are, IMHO, are piss-poor.
[08:49] <riddlebox> Znortfl, it may be sharpemusique I am not sure but if you google it, you will get something
[08:50] <ompaul> Waerner, can you spell disaster?
[08:50] <Waerner> Seveas, but Verlihub have many issues using gcc 4...
[08:50] <riddlebox> Znortfl, it used to be called pymusique if that helps
[08:50] <Znortfl> riddlebox, thanks
[08:50] <please> still nothing
[08:50] <h3sp4wn> Waerner: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 (It will be back after a reboot that way)
[08:50] <Znortfl> bleaked: so I cant run amaroK in gnome?
[08:50] <Waerner> h3sp4wn, thanks =)
[08:50] <Seveas> Waerner, then that should be fixed. GCC got a lot stricter and sloppy programmers will have to fix theur bugs
[08:50] <please> anything else i should change dev/hda3       /media/hda3      ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 1 2
[08:51] <bleaked> Znortfl: another option, would be what i did: install rockbox (an alternative firmware for various media players) onto my ipod and i just use amarok to dump songs on..otherwise one could just drag and drop into /dev/sda2
[08:51] <Waerner> Seveas, I'm afraid I can't do that anyway :P
[08:51] <__mikem> HEy Seveas, do you know what sloppy programming is sometimes called, Job Security!
[08:51] <Seveas> __mikem, I know all about that
[08:51] <bleaked> Znortfl: no, you can use amarok..you just can't use the nice kio-slave
[08:51] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: I think you get the differed in signdness gcc errors even with well written code sometimes
[08:51] <cryptic> ok guys, earlyer i tried to install apache, which didnt go to well, would u recommend a sudo rm apache?
[08:51] <Discipulus> my firefox just up and froze
[08:51] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, 'differs in signedness' is a warning, not an error
[08:52] <Discipulus> why does it keep freezing?
[08:52] <ompaul>  cryptic no
[08:52] <Hexidigital_> cryptic:: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache
[08:52] <ompaul> !reinstall
[08:52] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>.  WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[08:52] <Hexidigital_> ompaul:: no?
[08:52] <bleaked> Znortfl: but you can tell amarok to mount it, using a pre-connect command
[08:52] <Seveas> although using -Werror is recommendable
[08:52] <cryptic> thanks Hexidigital_
[08:52] <riddlebox> Hexidigital_, man you beat me
[08:52] <Discipulus> and sometimes when I open a webpage sometimes it crashes
[08:52] <Hexidigital_> :)
[08:52] <cryptic> lol
[08:52] <thechris> so i take it ubuntu 5.x had no nfs support...
[08:52] <cryptic> oh
[08:52] <Znortfl> bleaked: I dont think dumping my songs on /media/ipod will work
[08:52] <thechris> this will take all day with shfs
[08:52] <__mikem> riddlebox are you playing "who can provide help the fastest"?
[08:52] <cryptic> and guys whats the shortcut key/keys to get to terminal
[08:52] <Hexidigital_> ompaul:: sorry, read the screen too fast
[08:52] <cryptic> ???
[08:52] <ompaul> cryptic, I would suggest the first part of that reinstall
[08:53] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: Yes - accepted
[08:53] <Seveas> cryptic, you'll have to set one
[08:53] <riddlebox> __mikem, you want to play too
[08:53] <cryptic> oh ok
[08:53] <J-_> i have an error when i go into synaptic, here's the reference http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16649. how can i fix it?
[08:53] <cryptic> thought there was a defult
[08:53] <__mikem> lol Ill jump in if theres something I can help with. I just like to hang out in here
[08:53] <cryptic> what do u mean ompaul?
[08:53] <Seveas> J-_ hit the reload button in synaptic
[08:53] <krang> Anyone one know of a nice SCP GUI?
[08:53] <J-_> k
[08:53] <Seveas> krang, nautilus (places  connect to server)
[08:54] <ompaul> cryptic, as Hexidigital_ said  sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[08:54] <krang> Seveas: well I'll be blowed. Cheers
[08:54] <bleaked> Znortfl: well, not with the apple firmware, since that only reads from a lame database and puts the songs into obfusticated folders and filenames -- but rockbox reads straight up.  amarok works well though, it will write to the iTunesDB, and you can even extract songs off of it as well -- don't even bother with gtkpod, it's a terrible app.
[08:54] <cryptic> and then try and reinstall?
[08:54] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: It does make you think of non existant problems though (well does me)
[08:54] <GigaClon> how can I disable OSS?
[08:54] <please> all i want to do is be able to use my other partition
[08:54] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, warnings should be fixed - they indicate possible bugs
[08:54] <J-_> thanks seveas
[08:55] <Znortfl> bleaked, yes, I discovered that myself about half an hour ago
[08:55] <cryptic> cryptic@cypto:~$ sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[08:55] <cryptic> Reading package lists... Done
[08:55] <cryptic> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:55] <cryptic> Note, selecting apache2-mpm-worker instead of apache2
[08:55] <cryptic> Package apache2-mpm-worker is not installed, so not removed
[08:55] <cryptic> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:55] <cryptic> awww
[08:55] <Dragoonz> I'm having trouble with pam modules i think... i'm attempting to login to and AD server.  at prompt i type in login. then <username> then <password>.  i get pam_winbind: user <username> granted access then i retype the password  again and get the same thing.  then i get login: FAILED LOGIN 'console' FOR 'username' Module is unknown.  any ideas?
[08:55] <cryptic> sorry
[08:55] <funkmaster> how can i kill a process which isn't getting killed with sudo kill -9 or sudo kill - HUP
[08:55] <cryptic> that was ment to go to a paste bin
[08:55] <funkmaster> ?
[08:55] <hbweb500> I get a "kernel panic: unable to mount root file system" after installing a 2.4 kernel in Dapper. Any suggestions?
[08:55] <__mikem> cryptic to prevent that from happening again please pastebin
[08:55] <ompaul> !pastebin
[08:55] <Seveas> hbweb500, LOL!
[08:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:56] <__mikem> Seveas, that was a little harsh, but then again, its your ops account
[08:56] <Seveas> hbweb500, yeah, ditch that 2.4 kernel and use something from the 21st century
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: I would say yes for most warnings but not that one as you can have perfectly valid C that does that
[08:56] <crm-114> does anyone know if the alsa snd-intel8x0 driver is able to multiplex sound on its own?
[08:56] <Seveas> hbweb500, 2.4 is NOT possible with ubuntu
[08:56] <hbweb500> Seveas: I have hardware slowdowns with the 2.6 kernel and am testing 2.4.
[08:56] <ompaul> hbweb500, then use breezy
[08:56] <ompaul> hbweb500, then use or hoary
[08:56] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, then you need to use an explicit cast
[08:57] <cryptic> lol
[08:57] <Seveas> ompaul, even warty used 2.6
[08:57] <cryptic> im using hoary
[08:57] <Cornellius> Why is it so slow when copying files from CD/DVD to HD on Ubuntu ? On Windows it takes one minute or two.
[08:57] <hbweb500> Sweet, more downloading.
[08:57] <cryptic> waiting for my new delivery :)
[08:57] <ompaul> Seveas, aye
[08:57] <ompaul> but we could choose that bad one
[08:57] <Seveas> NO Ubuntu versions can use a 2.4 kernel without lots of userland hacking
[08:57] <ompaul> ahh
[08:57] <__mikem> Seveas, do you have any programming experience?
[08:57] <Hexidigital_> cryptic:: it might be faster to wait for the download
[08:57] <ompaul> hbweb500, seems you want to be in #debian
[08:57] <bleaked> Znortfl: but look into rockbox: supports pretty much every format (ogg/flac/mp3/etc), gapless playback (the apple firmware skips in between tracks), crossfading, games, skins, and so much more.  by default, you install it as a dual-boot, but eventually i found myself never using the apple firmware, so i dumped it, gained 65MB, and reduced boot time down to about 1 second.  now i can play all of my oggs on my nano :D
[08:57] <cryptic> Hexidigital_,  i cant
[08:57] <bobcat190> man it frezzes when i try to install ubuntu...plz help
[08:57] <cryptic> in south africa
[08:57] <Seveas> __mikem, it's what earns me my dinner
[08:58] <Hexidigital_> cryptic:: ah
[08:58] <cryptic> we have sh*T capping
[08:58] <cryptic> :(
[08:58] <riddlebox> __mikem, I like to sit too and pick stuff up, its fun to play games though
[08:58] <hbweb500> ompaul: If debian worked on my system without days of hacking...
[08:58] <cryptic> we need a really good and cheap ISP in SA
[08:58] <wastrel> Seveas:  why are there 2.4 kernel image packages in dapper repos then?
[08:58] <nicktk1> cool im back
[08:58] <Seveas> wastrel, imports from debian
[08:58] <ompaul> cryptic, do some really restricted torrenting
[08:58] <__mikem> I do programming for a hobby, mostly in C/C++/x86 Assembly
[08:58] <thechris> i guess scp will just have to suffice.  it would have been nice if nfs had worked, but then again ubuntu just has quirks.
[08:58] <cromo> I get segmentation fault when using apt-build --remove-builddep
[08:58] <Znortfl> bleaked: How do I tell AmaroK to contact the ipod?
[08:58] <cromo> anyonce can confirm plrease?
[08:58] <Seveas> wastrel, it's one of the things that should be fixed in the import mechanism
[08:59] <riddlebox> __mikem, you do any python programming?
[08:59] <nicktk1> hey i have 2 hardrives on my computer can one run linux and the other windows?
[08:59] <cryptic> ompaul, i have an older bro, who runs a IT support company from home
[08:59] <cryptic> if i cap us
[08:59] <Hexidigital_> nicktk1:: yes
[08:59] <__mikem> riddlebox, I havn't have time to learn it, I heard its a nice language though
[08:59] <cryptic> and he cannot use remote desktop etc
[08:59] <nicktk1> cool
[08:59] <cryptic> i will die :(
[08:59] <Hexidigital_> !dualboot > nicktk1
[08:59] <Hexidigital_> nicktk1:: check your pm from ubotu
[08:59] <ompaul> cryptic, then go to shipit.ubuntu.com or your nearest freedom toaster
[08:59] <mikeLaptop> :)
[09:00] <cryptic> lol yea ompaul i said i was waiting for it
[09:00] <please> still nothing wastrel
[09:00] <joeDapper1> hi, is there a really easy way to x.org to detect the all display resolutions automatically, so you dont have to mess around with the x config file?
[09:00] <cryptic> removing apache is not working :(
[09:00] <nicktk1> cool thanks
[09:00] <bleaked> Znortfl: not sure, might need to be mounted.  in kde, it's autodetected by the kio-slave, and amarok asks you if you want to use the device.  i think you'll have to manually mount /dev/sda2, and tell amarok it's there.
[09:00] <ompaul> cryptic, well a freedom toaster would do it it for you
[09:00] <wastrel> please:  sorry i dunno - maybe someone else can help.
[09:00] <cryptic> im at the part where u have to do that dam config :(
[09:00] <Hexidigital_> freedom toaster?
[09:00] <wastrel> freedom toaster!
[09:00] <cryptic> yea im with Hexidigital_ im confused
[09:01] <wastrel> freedom toasters are kiosks that burn ubuntu disks
[09:01] <Znortfl> bleaked, how do I tell amaroK that it's there, sorry im sucha complete newb
[09:01] <please> dose any body now about partitions on one disk
[09:01] <ompaul> Hexidigital_, I usually dont say google but that is so cool do it that way - it is really cool
[09:01] <cryptic> ok
[09:01] <cryptic> u get those in SA?
[09:01] <The_Oatman> Hello, I recently installed a package through synaptic while trying to get a parallel port scanner to work (kernel-patch-ppscsi-2.6) and I think it killed my sound completely. How can I repair this damage without reinstalling?
[09:01] <GigaClon> how can I disable OSS temporaraly
[09:01] <ompaul> cryptic, yes
[09:01] <Hexidigital_> hey, i have a question... is Amazon.com allowed to SELL the Ubuntu distros?
[09:01] <The_Oatman> yes
[09:02] <bleaked> Hexidigital_: and so are you
[09:02] <Minty> logged by error, anyone hep me with  my win partition, but cannot get it to mount in the 'computer', have tied this http://pastebin.ca/73330  but to no avail
[09:02] <Znortfl> bleaked: I have found the screen that asks for the mount command, but the ipod is automatically mounted, so it doesnt need to be mounted
[09:02] <riddlebox> __mikem, I am trying to learn c++ but learning it on my own is proving to be harder than I thought
[09:02] <ardchoille> Hexidigital_: anyone can sell Ubuntu distros for a reasonable cost of the media+labour
[09:03] <Hexidigital_> yes, but these look like shipit cd's
[09:03] <BCK14> how do see what ports are connected to what servers ?
[09:03] <__mikem> riddlebox, I tought myself assembly language on my own, trust me, you can do it. Just remember to do A LOT of reading.
[09:03] <guimMac> hi all, i am using a laptop powerbook g4 and face some problem : i want to use another screen (actually a beamer) and even if i connect it before i switch on the mac, it doesn't work
[09:03] <Sivik> ok, why isn't xdm starting?
[09:03] <Slike> BCK14: netstat ?
[09:03] <riddlebox> __mikem, and alot of practice
[09:03] <ardchoille> Hexidigital_: URL?
[09:03] <guimMac> anyone could help on that?
[09:03] <cryptic> riddlebox, have u done any othere languages apart from C++?
[09:03] <Hexidigital_> ardchoille:: hang on
[09:03] <__mikem> riddlebox, after a while the language will become second nature
[09:03] <Sivik> it says starting x display manager: xdm but then it goes back to console
[09:04] <bleaked> Znortfl: if it's already mounted, i believe amarok should find it, or you should be able to point it to it..
[09:04] <__mikem> for instance, I can usually get my programs to compile on the first try (even relatively complex ones), but it took a lot of practice
[09:04] <guimMac> all i get on the connected screen (whatever it is) is a white screen
[09:04] <GigaClon> how can I disable OSS temporarily
[09:04] <Starl1ng> Oh, my godness.... I choosed to install KDE....and it includes 353 packages (!!??!) ... I also install 9wm at the same time. :) Feels a bit weird...
[09:04] <Hexidigital_> ardchoille:: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G62IDU/qid=1151435039/sr=8-4/ref=pd_bbs_4/103-6478412-1359805?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=229534
[09:04] <__mikem> that is a long url
[09:04] <guimMac> sounds like the blue screen of windows :)
[09:04] <Hexidigital_> __mikem:: heh
[09:04] <guimMac> but white, as a mac
[09:04] <guimMac> :)
[09:04] <GigaClon> www.tinyurl.com
[09:04] <nicktk1> umm and when i burn to a cd to i keep it as a rar file or do i extrct to a cd?
[09:05] <bleaked> Znortfl: i really can't help you now though..i just b0rked my system, and i'm stuck in a recovery shell and really should focus on that instead of assisting people w/ their ipods..but later though, i'd be happy to help..
[09:05] <Hexidigital_> !iso
[09:05] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:05] <Hexidigital_> whoops... wrong one
[09:05] <bleaked> Znortfl: sorry.. :\
[09:05] <Znortfl> bleaked: I understand, this is more important ofc ;)
[09:05] <__mikem> riddlebox, do you know how to program in C?
[09:05] <riddlebox> cryptic, I barely know python, I am trying to learn c++
[09:05] <guimMac> anyone could give at least a place to find info about  that?
[09:05] <BCK14> Slike: how can i see what ports are connected to an address?
[09:05] <The_Oatman> geez it seems sound issues are very hard to fix in linux
[09:06] <BCK14> an ip even
[09:06] <mwiggins> okay this is f***ed, rebooted my computer this morning, and my sound is no longer working correctly, driver loads fine, programs can play to it just fine, mixer inputs are all unmuted and normal
[09:06] <cryptic> well riddlebox im in gr 11 and doing java
[09:06] <mwiggins> but ANO audio is coming out
[09:06] <cryptic> its pretty simple to pick up languages
[09:06] <cryptic> once u have the basic idea of programming
[09:06] <mwiggins> using dapper, anyone have any idea why this would be?
[09:06] <__mikem> please DON'T start him in java, java presents to many opertunities to develop bad habits
[09:06] <cryptic> they all do about the same thing just diffrent ways of doing them :)
[09:06] <guimMac> someone uses a mac here?
[09:06] <BCK14> how can i see what ports are connected to an address?
[09:06] <guimMac> with ubuntu ?
[09:06] <cryptic> dont worry man if u know 1 its gets easyer :)
[09:06] <wastrel> java eh
[09:06] <wastrel> it's the language of the future
[09:07] <__mikem> riddlebox, don't start in java, you will pick up bad habits what will make learning C/C++ even more of a monster
[09:07] <riddlebox> guimMac, you can try www.linuxactionshow.com they use ubuntu on macs
[09:07] <cryptic> why __mikem
[09:07] <cryptic> ???
[09:07] <Ackeubu_> hey what sync apps exists for gnome to sync my pakm tungsten?
[09:07] <Hexidigital_> __mikem:: what do you suggest a good starting language to be?
[09:07] <Ackeubu_> Palm sync apps
[09:07] <guimMac> riddlebox, thx i take a look
[09:07] <Ackeubu_> I need to do a wifi sync from Palm tungsten
[09:07] <wastrel> Ackeubu_:  jpilot, gnome-pilot
[09:07] <cryptic> what bad habbits would u be refering to __mikem ?
[09:07] <__mikem> Hexidigital_ I recomend starting someone off in C
[09:07] <Sivik> how do i make xdm the default display manager?
[09:07] <riddlebox> python was easy for me to pick up, but I want to create c packages
[09:08] <wastrel> python eh.
[09:08] <__mikem> cryptic for instance writing classes around absolutely everything even when doing so entails performance issues
[09:08] <Ackeubu_> wastrel which one would you recommend for wifi sync?
[09:08] <cryptic> hmm
[09:08] <wastrel> Ackeubu_:  i guess gnome pilot would work - use evolution as the desktop software
[09:08] <cryptic> i have looked at C# tut's
[09:08] <cromo> anyonce can please check if apt-build --remove-builddep whatever causes segfault?
[09:08] <__mikem> theres also misrepresentation of the idea of an object, for instance javas constant use of classes around gui controls often leads to bad interpretations on what an object actually is
[09:08] <BCK14> how can i see what a ports is connected to?
[09:08] <wastrel> i need to learn python
[09:08] <cryptic> i dont get C#
[09:08] <Starl1ng> BCK14: Try "netstat" or "netstat -n" if you don't want to do DNS-lookup's (this is much quicker).
[09:08] <BCK14> ij
[09:08] <BCK14> ok
[09:08] <cryptic> but im going to look at some C++ ones soon :)
[09:08] <__mikem> cryptic shal I go on
[09:09] <wastrel> C is best to start
[09:09] <wastrel> totally
[09:09] <__mikem> thankyou
[09:09] <cryptic> HMM
[09:09] <cryptic> soz for caps
[09:09] <seamoon> Anyone wanna help me with what to write in fstab to mount a partition at startup?
[09:09] <__mikem> Learn C first, then c++, once you do, you don't need to learn java because you pretymuch already know it
[09:09] <cryptic> stupid laptop, not used to the keys :)
[09:09] <cryptic> hehe
[09:09] <jcat> Don't listen to other people who are trying to say goto is a bad command.
[09:09] <yacek> I would like to install some program, but firstly I would like to know its version, how can I check that?
[09:09] <cryptic> but seriously C# is jibberish to me for some reason
[09:09] <shwag> how do I set services to load at startup ?
[09:09] <__mikem> cryptic, c# is supposed to be a terse language
[09:10] <cryptic> !define terse
[09:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about define terse
[09:10] <cryptic> aww no define
[09:10] <cryptic> terse = easy?
[09:10] <riddlebox> __mikem, I started with python and then jumped to c++, maybe I should go down to c
[09:10] <cryptic> simple to understand its logic?
[09:10] <__mikem> terse is not verbose
[09:10] <Starl1ng> BCK14: You could also try to pipe it to less "netstat | less", all the interesting network stuff is at the top of the output.
[09:10] <__mikem> riddlebox, start with C
[09:10] <BCK14> ok
[09:10] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: I know this is from a while ago, but it turns out that I _do_ have wpasupplicant installed
[09:10] <soundray> shwag: depends on the service. Most are setup to load on startup by default.
[09:10] <cryptic> __mikem, is there any C# tut u would recommend?
[09:10] <wastrel> riddlebox:  start with C
[09:11] <jcat> Would someone mind helping me with ubuntu?
[09:11] <Sivik> why isn't there anything in my home folders
[09:11] <gepatino> i'm trying to modify initrd.gz in dapper desktop cd, need some help, please
[09:11] <__mikem> yes, Microsoft C#.net step by step is good, but you will need to cough up for it
[09:11] <wastrel> state your problem
[09:11] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: still, though, I would like to force the use of the orinoco_cs driver. Do you know how I can do that?
[09:11] <shwag> soundray, how about after a   sudo apt-get install openssh-server   ?  is that set to load at startup now ?
[09:11] <Sivik> how does one run nvclock gui?
[09:11] <cryptic> __mikem, didnt they make some features of there C# free>
[09:11] <seamoon> I have a partition on another drive (sata) that I want to have mounted on every startup with writepermission, anyone knows what to write in fstab?
[09:11] <Ackeubu_> how would i start gnome-pilot cant find it in the menus and it will not run with gnome-pilot in the terminal
[09:11] <soundray> shwag: yes. Test with ssh localhost
[09:11] <rixxon> what does 'gpg --encrypt' do? for me it just dumps some binary data.
[09:11] <cryptic> like microsoft's C# editor is free now
[09:11] <yacek> I would like to install some program, but firstly I would like to know its version, how can I check that?
[09:12] <riddlebox> jcat, what do you need help with
[09:12] <wastrel> Ackeubu_:  it's actually a gnome applet, add the gnome pilot applet to your gnome panel
[09:12] <cryptic> yacek, look for a read me file
[09:12] <cryptic> ????
[09:12] <__mikem> cryptic not sure what you mean. Microsoft is providing the visual studio express edition products free for one year after they were released, that should be over real soon though
[09:12] <joeDapper1> does the x11 server use sockets or library calls when using local windowed apps ??
[09:12] <Ackeubu_> wastrel ooh
[09:12] <cryptic> readme's normally list it
[09:12] <shwag> soundray, I know it started the service after the install...but I dont know if the service will again be started after the next reboot.
[09:12] <gepatino> i can't make a modified initrd.gz work, and i'm only modifing default user name
[09:12] <cryptic> they are downloadable atm
[09:12] <soundray> shwag: it will.
[09:12] <cryptic> i found a link on www.runuo.com
[09:12] <jcat> >.> I've had ubuntu for all of a few days. I don't know how to install packages I've downloaded, or why my other drive can't be recognized (I have a small win partition, and a large data partition).
[09:12] <cryptic> to download them
[09:12] <__mikem> I don't know, you can look at, http://msdn.microsoft.com
[09:12] <nicktk1> ok so im assuming the iso will run atomaticaly?
[09:12] <seamoon> I have a partition on another drive (sata) that I want to have mounted on every startup with writepermission, anyone knows what to write in fstab?
[09:13] <h3sp4wn> <anderbubble: Try setting it up as specified in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes if it doesn't work then I will tell you how to change it (Probably the reason that driver is used is because its better - orinoco is a very common card)
[09:13] <__mikem> I don't know of any that will work on linux though
[09:13] <soundray> shwag: install bum (no joke) to see/configure what services are loaded at boot.
[09:13] <soundray> !info bum
[09:13] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:13] <yacek> but I would like to install it using apt-get, so how can I check the program version?
[09:13] <cryptic> yea
[09:13] <soundray> yacek: apt-cache policy packagename
[09:13] <cryptic> any way __mikem since i agree with what ure saying
[09:13] <cryptic> what is the nicest tut u could link me 2 :)
[09:13] <riddlebox> jcat, what do you mean you down know how to install packages? what type are they? *.gz *.deb???
[09:13] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: ok. thanks for your help
[09:13] <__mikem> cryptic you mean what I said about bad habits?
[09:13] <rixxon> how can i encrypt stdout with gpg? (for piping)
[09:14] <cryptic> well everything
[09:14] <cryptic> bad habits
[09:14] <cryptic> that its a better langugae
[09:14] <__mikem> well thank you
[09:14] <cryptic> best for begginers etc
[09:14] <wastrel> what's a better language?
[09:14] <cryptic> it is better then java
[09:14] <Ackeubu_> wastrel i started pilot applet and pressed network sync from my palm and it sayd sync complete. it cant be that simple!!?.
[09:14] <wildman> cryptic: don't start a A is better than B war...
[09:14] <cryptic> wastrel, C is better then java
[09:14] <cryptic> :)
[09:14] <wildman> cryptic: it's useless ;)
[09:15] <cryptic> LOL
[09:15] <wastrel> Ackeubu_:  i dunno - open up evolution and see if your data's there :]
[09:15] <cryptic> but its a known fact imho
[09:15] <jcat> .*gz   This is my second day actually running ubuntu, and linux in general.
[09:15] <wildman> cryptic: all langs have it's good and bad things, as pretty much everything else in this world ;)
[09:15] <cryptic> ok
[09:15] <rixxon> cryptic: you can't compare C and Java, so don't.
[09:15] <wildman> cryptic: it's just a matter of using "the right tool for the job"
[09:15] <__mikem> THe only reason to bother with java is because you can make good money as a java programmer
[09:15] <The_Oatman> Hello, I recently installed a package through synaptic while trying to get a parallel port scanner to work (kernel-patch-ppscsi-2.6) and I think it killed my sound completely. Does anybody know how can I repair this damage without reinstalling?
[09:15] <gepatino> i need to know how to properly package a new initrd.gz to make a custom ubuntu live cd
[09:15] <rixxon> cryptic: also, this channel is not meant for language war / similar.
[09:15] <Minty__> anyone know hot to add a dictionaire to eveolution ??
[09:15] <__mikem> java was more comperable to C when it supported pointers
[09:16] <cryptic> bwahaha
[09:16] <__mikem> they actually have basic compilers that can generate code that runs about as fast as C generated code
[09:16] <cryptic> a simple comment and everyone starts tuning me
[09:16] <cryptic> :)
[09:16] <__mikem> like freebasic for example
[09:16] <cryptic> OK
[09:16] <cryptic> moving past that
[09:16] <rixxon> cryptic: perhaps, because it is against the rules of this channel
[09:16] <cryptic> what is the best C# tut
[09:16] <wildman> not to mention useless ;)
[09:16] <riddlebox> jcat, there is this wonderful tool in ubuntu called apt-get, I will try to get you a tutorial on it
[09:17] <rixxon> cryptic: try ##csharp for such a question
[09:17] <wildman> The_Oatman: euh... stupid question: did you reboot after installing that kernel thing'
[09:17] <wildman> thing? I mean,
[09:17] <ompaul> cryptic, go to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue that line  that is not a support question thanks
[09:17] <__mikem> riddlebox, one thing that would help is for you to study the source code that comes with some of the open source software, its well commented, and should be good for you
[09:17] <cryptic> im not asking a question to every one...
[09:17] <jcat> I would appreciate any tutorials you could give me.
[09:17] <cryptic> im just asking to __mikem  in general
[09:18] <wildman> cryptic: if you both have registered nicknames, you can chat in private w/o 'disturbing' the rest of the ppl here... just a thought...
[09:18] <jcat> I'm wanting to figure things out without breaking ubuntu like I did with xp.
[09:18] <wildman> cryptic: "/query nickname" might be your friend ;)
[09:18] <wastrel> you can use #ubuntu-offtopic  :]
[09:19] <cryptic> ...
[09:19] <wastrel> jcat:  check wiki.ubuntu.com  there's a lot of documentation there.
[09:19] <thompa> ive tried everything and cant disable touchpad
[09:19] <wastrel> thompa:  synaptics?
[09:19] <__mikem> cryptic, if you want, I can talk to you dirrectly in a private chat
[09:19] <cberlo> Hi folks.  I'm trying to get winbind authentication working on a newly-installed Edubuntu LTSP server (and yes, I'm querying the Edubuntu channel at present also).  Does anyone know how to get null passwords to work with GDM and/or LDM?
[09:20] <riddlebox> jcat, this is a good start http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[09:20] <Raul654> Question - I know the package (of a well known application) in the official repositories is outdated and has a number of known security holes
[09:20] <Tom7e> can anyone tell me how to make windows default on grub?
[09:20] <thompa> wastrel: do you mean qsynaptics?
[09:20] <Raul654> is there someone to report that to?
[09:20] <wastrel> thompa:  i mean is it a synaptics touchpad
[09:20] <wildman> Tom7e: by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst IIRC
[09:20] <thompa> wastrel: yes
[09:20] <athum> hi
[09:20] <cryptic> __mikem, dont worry, i know how to double click, use query or just type /msg nick...
[09:20] !lilo:*! Hi all. If you have special modes on your client, you may experience some temporary disruption. If so, we'll try to get it fixed as quickly as possible.
[09:20] <thompa> wastrel: i added kbindings but they dont work either
[09:21] <Scorpmoon> Can anyone explain http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add.2Fedit.2Fdelete_network_users to me.. what does system_username = "network username" mean
[09:21] <Raul654> anyone?
[09:21] <__mikem> ok, If you like I can walk you through a few assembly language programs to if you are feeling really adventerous
[09:21] <FeestBijtje> what is windows
[09:21] <riddlebox> jcat, I believe there is a wealth of stuff for you in that link :)
[09:21] <Scorpmoon> is system_username = scorpmoon?
[09:21] <kimo> guys, I'm stuck with Live CD, which is super slow on my 128MB machine :( Anyway I can start a text installer from that? (rescue mode?)
[09:21] <thompa> i mean xbindkeys
[09:21] <Scorpmoon> and where do I write the password
[09:21] <CarlFK> trying to print to an win2k print share.  works from my breezy -> dapper box, but not my 5 day old dapper install jobs just sit in the queue.  status says "Printing: Gutenprint Ready to print."
[09:21] <riddlebox> FeestBijtje, windows are holes in your house that have glass panes in them to allow a person to look out
[09:21] <thompa> wastrel: it seems its not possible to disable, so im wondering what else is controlling it
[09:21] <soundray> !tell Raul654 about launchpad
[09:21] <cryptic> nah dont worry __mikem
[09:22] <FeestBijtje> !tell riddlebox google
[09:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell riddlebox google
[09:22] <Frem> Hey, my dmesg output keeps printing out " VFS: busy inodes on changed media." over and over again. I looked at the System Log viewer, the message is still being printed. What does it mean?
[09:22] <Cyorxamp> If I have a MPEG4 movie and it uses OGG and XviD - will it play when ubuntu is first installed ?!
[09:22] <FeestBijtje> riddlebox, what is windows xp
[09:22] <wastrel> thompa:  i'm looking for the instructions i had for this in breezy ... :]
[09:22] <__mikem> FeestBijtje, I must give fare warning that the ops will deal with monkeyshines swiftly and brutally
[09:23] <riddlebox> jcat, if you need a quick way to get going though, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_apt-get_the_easy_way_.28Synaptic.29
[09:23] <thompa> wastrel: ive tried these http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143095
[09:23] <FeestBijtje> __mikem, okay il stop smoking pot
[09:23] <soundray> Frem: you've probably removed a drive without unmounting/ejecting it.
[09:23] <__mikem> thats probably a good idea
[09:23] <FeestBijtje> I agree it makes me anoying
[09:23] <Cyorxamp> If I have a MPEG4 movie and it uses OGG and XviD - will it play when ubuntu is first installed ?!
[09:23] <thompa> wastrel: ive tried qsynaptics and every other method, its hopeless
[09:23] <cryptic> FeestBijtje, do u even know what linux is? or are u just one of those guys that goes round to be annoying :(
[09:23] <Scorpmoon> i cant figure how to share printers to windows
[09:23] <FeestBijtje> cryptic, i use linux doh
[09:24] <Ng> Cyorxamp: the ogg bit will, but the xvid may well need extra codecs to be installed
[09:24] <__mikem> I wonder how I would apply for an ops account in this chanel? I am sure my record of conduct is exemplary enough
[09:24] <jcat> Thank you for the links.  XviD is an open source project... does anyone in here know if Ubuntu comes with XviD support?!
[09:24] <arapehl> question from a noob
[09:24] <__mikem> !ask
[09:24] <soundray> Frem: no, it doesn't. You have to unmount removable devices before you unplug them.
[09:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:24] <wastrel> thompa:  what i did was set the MaxTapTime  parameter to 0, which turns off taps
[09:24] <cryptic> __mikem, but u do actually find dinosuar bones :)
[09:24] <FeestBijtje> __mikem, true my dad uses windows :S it makes my bum ichy
[09:25] <wastrel> thompa:  sorry that's different :]
[09:25] <Ng> Cyorxamp: afaik the format is patent encumbered. there is a codec in multiverse, but that means it won't be installed by default
[09:25] <Ng> !restrictedformats > Cyorxamp
[09:25] <__mikem> cryptic, not really
[09:25] <arapehl> I've burned the 6.06 image to a CD, and it boots up to the main menu but won't go further, it gives me an I/O error... further tries gives me "isolinux Disk error 80, AX=4200, drive 9F"
[09:25] <arapehl> Any clues?
[09:25] <Cyorxamp> !restrictedformats > Cyorxamp
[09:25] <Ubuntbabe> hey, is stream ripping detectable or does it all happen within my lan?
[09:25] <FeestBijtje> arapehl, you got the wrong disk?
[09:25] <arapehl> Oh, and I'm on an old PII 300Mhz
[09:26] <thompa> wastrel: i get.. line 4: synclient: command not found sif i run xbindkey
[09:26] <riddlebox> hrmm this needs to be in the topic http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper it is real useful
[09:26] <oskude> arapehl, did you try the "check cd" option in the cd at boot ? (to test that the cd is ok=
[09:26] <soundray> !ubuntuguide
[09:26] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[09:26] <__mikem> arapehl don't listen to FeestBijtje he is a troll
[09:26] <thompa> wastrel: thats ok, im going to keep searching, ubuntu is hiding something
[09:26] <cromo> anyonce can please check if apt-build --remove-builddep whatever_package causes segfault?
[09:27] <arapehl> The first time I didn't "check CD", second time around I did, but the same thing happened... the Image I'm using is : ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[09:27] <barongas> Sound not working when playing flash movies, using esd... which works fine with mp3 and movies in general. Any ideas?
[09:27] <riddlebox> soundray, it seems that is has been updated, for dapper
[09:27] <arapehl> oskude: yeah, it gives me the same problem.
[09:27] <Ubuntbabe> hey, is stream ripping detectable or does it all happen within my lan?
[09:27] <FeestBijtje> __mikem, i aint a troll i am just anoying today
[09:27] <Aeo> Can I access files on an NTFS partition through Ubuntu?
[09:27] <oskude> arapehl, hmm ? did the "check cd" say that the cd is ok or not ?
[09:27] <ompaul> FeestBijtje, well don't be annoying
[09:27] <cryptic> hmm
[09:27] <__mikem> FeestBijtje, stop being annoying now. Such conduct is frowned upon
[09:28] <Ubuntbabe> Aeo:
[09:28] <arapehl> I don't know if it's maybe that my CD drive sucks? I burned it on a different drive though (does it remember the drive it was burned on and expect to be booted off the same one?)
[09:28] <barongas> Aeo, access yes, write no
[09:28] <__mikem> ompaul, if I wanted to apply to become an op in this room, what would I need to do
[09:28] <Ubuntbabe> ubotu: tell Aeo !ntfs
[09:28] <cryptic> would it be possible to hack my windows XP machine, just cause im 2 lasy to go get my password for my regged nick?
[09:28] <arapehl> oskude: the cd check gives me the same IO error and asks to reboot.
[09:28] <Ubuntbabe> !ntfs
[09:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:28] <cryptic> reason i would need to get there to get it is cause random chars make the best passes :)?
[09:28] <Ubuntbabe> hey, is stream ripping detectable or does it all happen within my lan?
[09:28] <__mikem> hypotheticly I mean
[09:28] <riddlebox> Ubuntubabe, I
[09:28] <soundray> riddlebox: whoever created ubuntuguide didn't show much respect for users in the past by dishing out dangerous advice. I don't have any reason to believe that their resources can be trusted, just because it's been updated.
[09:28] <oskude> arapehl, no. but if you burn with to high speed, and the old cdrom drive is slower than with you burned it, could be that you get problems with the old drive...
[09:28] <riddlebox> am not sure
[09:29] <arapehl> oh!
[09:29] <Ng> !ubuntuguide
[09:29] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[09:29] <riddlebox> soundray, I did not know that, I will look through it and see
[09:29] <oskude> arapehl, i allways burn bootable images with maximum speed of x8
[09:29] <arapehl> oskude: I burned it at 8x and my drive is supposed to be a 36x (old one though)
[09:29] <Frem> soundray, Ok, i'm confused. In pretty much every Linux distro, when a cdrom is mounted, the drive is locked shut until unmount. In Ubuntu, the cdrom drive door is not locked, I don't get an error when I eject, any file windows open automatically close, and the cdrom icon disappears off the desktop, AND it's automatically removed from the list of mounted drives.
[09:29] <gullstad_> !itunes
[09:29] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[09:29] <gullstad_> !players
[09:29] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[09:29] <oskude> arapehl, ok, so that shouldn be the problem... hmm, did you do an md5sum on the image ?
[09:30] <arapehl> I could try and slow it down some... maybe even go with 2x... what do you think?
[09:30] <gullstad_> What mediaplayers can tranfer to linux?
[09:30] <ompaul> __mikem, please read the message
[09:30] <oskude> arapehl, i doubt the burn speed is the problem here..
[09:30] <soundray> Frem: the error you report seems to refer to a writable device, not a CD.
[09:30] <__mikem> ompaul :)
[09:30] <barongas> I hear that there is a trade-off with dapper and flash in firefox that you can choose firefox stability or flash sound. Anyone been down that road and came back alive?
[09:31] <arapehl> oskude: heh, uhm, like I said, I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to this. I set the burning software (easy cd creator) to check the CD and then burn. I'm guessing that's not what you mean though huh?
[09:31] <riddlebox> gullstad, my rio is just seen as a usb thumbdrive basically, I just drap and drop files on it
[09:31] <oskude> arapehl, i dont know how to check md5sum on windows... hmm
[09:31] <Aeo> Thanks Ubuntbabe!
[09:31] <riddlebox> oskude, I believe there is a small app to do it
[09:31] <soundray> barongas: I think what you say was once true, but doesn't apply to the recent release.
[09:32] <gullstad_> riddlebox: Whit iTunes you probly need a program to get the music into the libary.
[09:32] <Mastastealth> anyone else having issues with the latest update regarding Nvidia acceleration
[09:32] <lamego> oskude, google.com, there is an md5.exe for windows
[09:32] <oskude> arapehl, on the server where you got the image is a same named .md5 file that has the md5 checksum number that you need to compare, sec
[09:32] <Sivik> why is xterm saying xterm: DISPLAY is not set
[09:32] <barongas> soundray, ok. I installed flash with a nifty app called easyubuntu, maybe it dropped me something old... Gonna mess around with apt and see what comes up
[09:32] <arapehl> Hmmm
[09:33] <oskude> arapehl, did you read this ? ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:33] <cromo> 1/lv
[09:33] <riddlebox> gullstad, there is gtkpod and sharpmusique or something like that
[09:33] <soundray> barongas: I installed flash on all my i386 machines using Easyubuntu. Never had any troubles with sound or otherwise.
[09:33] <Sivik> nickrud, you around?
[09:33] <arapehl> oskude: heh, no. that would have required me to have a little less of an ego... "me? read docs? never!" ;)
[09:34] <asand> has anyone installed openoffice.org on 6.06 ?
[09:34] <oskude> arapehl, the md5 checksum number is used to verify that the download process went ok, means that you have the _exact_ same file as on the server
[09:34] <userundefine> Yes
[09:34] <soundray> asand: yes
[09:34] <barongas> soundray, hmmm..
[09:34] <riddlebox> asand, it comes with it doesnt it?
[09:34] <asand> I've had some trouble
[09:34] <asand> well it is'nt there
[09:34] <riddlebox> asand, did you upgrade from breezy?
[09:34] <soundray> asand: did you install it from the repositories?
[09:34] <userundefine> barongas, soundray, someone having trouble with flash and no sound?
[09:34] <oskude> arapehl, and thats wat i *allways* do when i burn images...
[09:34] <cryptic> doesnt openoffice come standard with any ubuntu release...?
[09:34] <barongas> userundefine, yessir me that is!
[09:35] <Ng> cryptic: it should be in all of them
[09:35] <cryptic> yea
[09:35] <cryptic> any/all
[09:35] <asand> when I try sudo apt-get install openoffice.org it reports some broken packages
[09:35] <userundefine> barongas, have you tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[09:35] <oskude> arapehl, on linux it would just typing "md5sum file.name" :/
[09:35] <cryptic> openoffice is soo cool :)
[09:35] <asand> yes I upgraded for Breezy
[09:35] <cryptic> hmm
[09:35] <barongas> userundefine, no but will now
[09:35] <cryptic> i cant wait for my dapper to arrive
[09:35] <cryptic> new packages etc :)
[09:35] <userundefine> barongas, I just did it and it worked for me.  Working for a lot of people
[09:35] <Ng> asand: paste the reported errors to a pastebin
[09:35] <riddlebox> asand, I had the same problem, I opened up synaptic and selected the openoffice2.org package or something like that
[09:35] <Sivik> cryptic, why can you just get it from online instead of waiting for it to arrive
[09:35] <cryptic> should i format this hard-drive and reinstall dapper?
[09:35] <JaspaJones> heya ppl.
[09:36] <cryptic> Sivik, i cant download it, south africa
[09:36] <oskude> arapehl, but they could have an easier way/tool in here http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html :/
[09:36] <cryptic> we have some thing called capping
[09:36] <Sivik> cryptic, that sucks
[09:36] <cryptic> so i can only download 3 gig
[09:36] <cryptic> a month
[09:36] <wildman> cryptic: tx limiting sucks
[09:36] <arapehl> oskude: gah! the stupid mdhashtool firefox extension deosn't work b/c I'm on a newer version of FF!!
[09:36] <arapehl> *grumble*
[09:36] <cryptic> and we have already gone over our cap :(
[09:36] <userundefine> cryptic, sorry to hear that
[09:36] <JaspaJones> some1 there to help me with some network-problems?
[09:36] <cryptic> dude
[09:36] <cryptic> if some one
[09:36] <cryptic> can come to SA
[09:36] <cryptic> with a good ISP
[09:37] <cryptic> u will make millions
[09:37] <Ng> !enter
[09:37] <oskude> arapehl, lol, you got 2.0beta or so ?
[09:37] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:37] <wildman> cryptic: do you have access, if available already, to something similar to a beverage expending machine, but for FLOSS CDs?
[09:37] <asand> i've tracked the errors down to the openoffice.org-core-experimental
[09:37] <cryptic> lol ng
[09:37] <wildman> cryptic: euh... freeburner, or something like that...
[09:37] <cryptic> u love to pwn that bot hey :)
[09:37] <asand> which apperently is'nt installable :/
[09:37] <cryptic> nope wildman we dont have such items in sa :(
[09:37] <cryptic> afaik
[09:37] <jjvvcc> hi, can anyone help me with gcc?
[09:37] <Ng> asand: are you running dapper?
[09:38] <wildman> cryptic: gimme 1' plz, they ARE in ZA ;)
[09:38] <asand> yep
[09:38] <Ng> jjvvcc: ask your question and find out :)
[09:38] <Ng> asand: that package doesn't appear to be in dapper. I'd check your apt sources
[09:38] <alterr> hello guys,  i'd like to get the linux-source 2.6.12-9, where to find it?
[09:38] <arapehl> oskude: nope, 1.5.x but the plugin only works for v1.0 it seems... anyway, there's a windows app further down the page I'll try out. You really think it's the checksum?  I boots up and gives me the menu where you select how you want to load ubuntu.
[09:38] <barongas> userundefine, thanks, works like a dream... or something...
[09:38] <asand> how would I do that?
[09:38] <userundefine> barongas, no problem.
[09:38] <oskude> arapehl, hmm, i see this link too http://downloads.mozdev.org/mdhashtool/mdhashtool-0.4dp.xpi (should be for 1.5beta1...)
[09:38] <jjvvcc> when i use .h at include, the compiler doesn't find the include, only when i put .c
[09:39] <wildman> jjvvcc: -I path_to_the_dir_containing_the_H_file
[09:39] <Ubuntbabe> hey, is stream ripping detectable or does it all happen within my lan?
[09:39] <wildman> jjvvcc: as a compile option to gcc
[09:39] <jjvvcc> but is at the same path
[09:39] <Ng> jjvvcc: are you doing #include <foo.h> or #include "foo.h"? also, this is a little offtopic for here ;)
[09:39] <yallaman> is there a mail-server i can use in ubuntu..that is easy to set up?
[09:39] <barongas> userundefine, hehe... actually I find the sound's out of sync :) hmmm
[09:39] <jjvvcc> Ng: ""
[09:39] <TheStudent> Hi all n00b here
[09:39] <Sivik> what is /dev/wacom?
[09:40] <Ng> jjvvcc: hmm, I would think that would work then
[09:40] <arapehl> oskude: says it will only work with 1.4 and I'm running 1.5.0.x... anyway, I'm getting this other app that should work.
[09:40] <Ng> Sivik: device node for a wacom tablet
[09:40] <jjvvcc> Ng: me too.. :)
[09:40] <oskude> arapehl, roger
[09:40] <jjvvcc> Ng: that's the problem
[09:40] <cryptic> wildman, looks like u were unsuccesfull?
[09:40] <__mikem> Ok, I am back. What did I miss
[09:40] <yallaman> is there a mail-server i can use in ubuntu..that is easy to set up?
[09:40] <Sivik> Ng: ok, how do i turn it off, it won't allow me to start the xserver because of it
[09:40] <jjvvcc> Ng: is there a # specific for developments?
[09:40] <riddlebox> yallaman, there are
[09:40] <wildman> cryptic: not yet, cannot remember the name of that very nice ZA thing...
[09:40] <athum> ok mam xfce:P
[09:40] <oskude> yeah, why is wacom _allways_ installed, none off my pcs had/have it :/
[09:40] <Ng> jjvvcc: I'm not sure, sorry
[09:40] <kalosaurusrex> if I'm getting an error 22 with grub, is there an easy way to fix this?
[09:40] <userundefine> barongas, I thought I noticed that too but only tried one video.  Seems about a halfsecond off to me, but it doesn't really bother me *that* much.  Hopefully it all gets fixed soon
[09:40] <Ng> oskude: the people who do have it are probably very happy that it's installed :)
[09:41] <wildman> cryptic: backed by the Mr. Shuttleworth
[09:41] <barongas> userundefine, cool
[09:41] <Ng> Sivik: are you getting an error?
[09:41] <cryptic> OH
[09:41] <wildman> cryptic: damn....  my memory is failing me :)
[09:41] <cryptic> shuttleworth
[09:41] <yallaman> riddlebox: got any advices?
[09:41] <cryptic> the first noob from SA in space
[09:41] <cryptic> umm
[09:41] <cryptic> hip to be 2
[09:41] <riddlebox> yallaman, give me a sec
[09:41] <Sivik> Ng: yes
[09:41] <cryptic> hib to be square
[09:41] <Sivik> Ng: Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory
[09:41] <cryptic> that one wildman
[09:41] <cryptic> ?
[09:42] <cryptic> hib to be square?
[09:42] <yallaman> i would prefer a GUI version..if there is one
[09:42] <cryptic> hip*
[09:42] <TheStudent> Guys.. I'm having problems with ATi Linux drivers despite following the ATi tutorial, when I try and run the control center it tells me that "fireglcontrolpanel" no such file or directory, although all of the files have been installed in the correct bin folder !
[09:42] <Ng> Sivik: I expect you could remove the wacom entries from the xorg.conf
[09:42] <wildman> cryptic: yes, that very same guy ;)
[09:42] <cryptic> lol
[09:42] <cryptic> what about him>
[09:42] <Sivik> ok
[09:42] <cryptic> he gives out ubuntu cd'
[09:42] <cryptic> cd's*
[09:42] <daaku> anyone know how to use the cryptic dbus-send to send a notification to the gnome notification-daemon?
[09:42] <riddlebox> yallam, I am sure there are if you search, maybe look at exim4 I am not sure what it all does but I know it can send mail
[09:43] <cryptic> hello?
[09:43] <wildman> cryptic: not only that... I wish I could find the link....
[09:43] <cryptic> calling me?
[09:43] <halibut> Does anyone use Gmail + picasa (web) + firefox 1.5        thanks
[09:43] <TheStudent> Guys.. I'm having problems with ATi Linux drivers despite following the ATi tutorial, when I try and run the control center it tells me that "fireglcontrolpanel" no such file or directory, although all of the files have been installed in the correct bin folder !
[09:43] <wildman> halibut: gmail + ff1.5: yes, no picasa though
[09:43] <arapehl> oskude: stupid thing won't work... :-( I've got to run, be back later (thanks for the help so far though)
[09:44] <wildman> my ISP might be having DNS pbs cuz I cannot access 'half the web' :-|
[09:44] <oskude> arapehl, ok, np
[09:44] <cryptic> awww wildman
[09:44] <cryptic> got no access to the ZA sections?
[09:44] <TheStudent> I'm new to Ununtu and linux... fed up of MS so want a change... but this is doing my head in !
[09:44] <oskude> TheStudent, do you know where the file is ? have you tried to run it from that dir ?
[09:44] <yallaman> kk
[09:45] <TheStudent> yes I have tried
[09:45] <wildman> cryptic: got it!
[09:45] <wildman> cryptic: http://www.freedomtoaster.co.za/
[09:45] <wildman> cryptic: there, good luck! ;)
[09:45] <pvd2006> What is a nice/clear/anti-aliased font for firefox?
[09:45] <TheStudent> its in the /usr/X11R6/bin/
[09:45] <cryptic> oh this
[09:45] <TheStudent> in there is all of the files
[09:45] <wildman> cryptic: dunno if they are all over ZA already.... but ;)
[09:45] <cryptic> i heared them talking about it earlyer
[09:45] <cryptic> well saw it
[09:45] <oskude> TheStudent, do you need that tool ? i had ati for 1 year and i never even heard about that tool :/
[09:45] <TheStudent> aticonfig... ffireglcontrolpanel etc..
[09:46] <TheStudent> well I cant configure the display without it
[09:46] <Sivik> Ng: now its telling me no screens found
[09:46] <cryptic> hey wildman
[09:46] <wildman> cryptic: yes?
[09:46] <TheStudent> i'm stuck on 1024 x 768 @ 60 hz
[09:46] <cryptic> Canal Walk
[09:46] <cryptic> This Freedom Toaster does not offer DVD support
[09:46] <cryptic> Situated at the MTN ScienCentre (this is where it all started).
[09:46] <cryptic> no dvd
[09:46] <Ng> Sivik: could you post your xorg.conf to a pastebin?
[09:46] <Snurf> How do i install Macromedia Flash and the plugin for Firefox for flash
[09:46] <cryptic> but its like 30 mins walk from my house :)
[09:46] <Healot> !flash
[09:46] <Sivik> no
[09:46] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:46] <Sivik> cause i don't have gui
[09:46] <wildman> cryptic: well... the world isn't perfect, is it?
[09:46] <wildman> cryptic: like I said, good luck! ;)
[09:47] <pvd2006> what is the package to get fonts like courier and courier-new?
[09:47] <oskude> TheStudent, i set those in /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (or with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[09:47] <Healot> follow those links, Snurf
[09:47] <Sivik> Ng: it says Fetal server error: no screens found
[09:47] <cryptic> but wildman
[09:47] <cryptic> its not perfect
[09:47] <Ng> Sivik: towards the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log there will be a more useful error
[09:47] <cryptic> its in the "mtnsciencecentre"
[09:47] <ph4nt0m> can anyone tell me wether de.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[09:47] <TheStudent> and in plain english ? sorry total n00b here !
[09:47] <cryptic> its R50 entrance fee
[09:47] <cryptic> :(
[09:47] <ph4nt0m> cant make apt-get update
[09:47] <Sivik> Ng: a XIO error or an xauth error?
[09:47] <pvd2006> ph4nt0m, sudo apt-get update?
[09:48] <wildman> cryptic: well... one cannot have it all, can one?
[09:48] <daschu> hey everyone... i'm trying to repartition my HD, but the partitioning tool won't commit anything... it says that i need to unmount all the devices first... the tool in the system settings says that everything is unmounted though
[09:48] <oskude> ph4nt0m, doesnt work here neither atm, just wait a while
[09:48] <ph4nt0m> yes @pvd2006
[09:48] <cryptic> lol
[09:48] <daschu> any help?
[09:48] <Styles> anybody know of a program the will open adobe illustrator files? Is there a gimp plugin? Google is turning up squat.
[09:48] <cryptic> for R50 i could buy an extra gig of cap
[09:48] <cryptic> and download it :)
[09:48] <ph4nt0m> same within synaptic cant get updates
[09:48] <SixtyWatt> Hello, has anyone had an issue with their screen glitching when multiple applications are running?
[09:48] <cryptic> then not have to walk
[09:48] <cryptic> oh well ill see what i can do
[09:48] <SixtyWatt> I am using a flat panel LCD
[09:49] <Sivik> Ng: XIO: fattal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
[09:49] <pvd2006> synaptic is just a front-end for apt-get.
[09:49] <barongas> is mkfs.vfat =fat32?
[09:49] <Ng> Sivik: I'm not sure exactly without seeing it. If you want to get the config back to how it was you can do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:49] <Ng> Sivik: possibly a bit further before that
[09:49] <oskude> Styles, can illustrator save SVG, inscape and xaralx opens those...
[09:49] <Sivik> Ng: xauth: error in locking authority file /home/name/.Xauthority
[09:49] <TheStudent> Guys.. I'm having problems with ATi Linux drivers despite following the ATi tutorial, when I try and run the control center it tells me that "fireglcontrolpanel" no such file or directory, although all of the files have been installed in the correct bin folder !
[09:49] <Sivik> Ng: thats the only error
[09:49] <gullstad_> What is a good alternative to iTunes, that work. Preferably.
[09:50] <cryptic> lol wildman
[09:50] <Styles> oskude: thank man
[09:50] <Ng> Sivik: hmm, perhaps try deleting that file and doing the dpkg-reconfigure - the error may not have been wacom after all
[09:50] <cryptic> there is a guide in the site 2 building one
[09:50] <cryptic> ....
[09:50] <Styles> forgot an s
[09:50] <Healot> sharpmusique, Gullstad?
[09:50] <userundefine> gullstad_, what are you looking for in a music app?
[09:50] <Healot> !find sharpmusique
[09:50] <ubotu> No packages matching 'sharpmusique' could be found
[09:50] <cryptic> any way
[09:50] <cryptic> time to go
[09:51] <ph4nt0m> i know - the security.... servers work but the de.archive.... not any help - misconfiguration - firewall - router any hints?
[09:51] <gullstad_> userundefine: I'm looking for something to tramsfer music form my computer to my iPod.
[09:51] <volt^warlock> Anyone know how to boost a (counter-strike) server's fps from 300 to 1000? I think its something with changing the HZ ? I'm using ubuntu server 5.10 breezy.
[09:51] <PORDO> does anyone here think shakira is attractive?
[09:51] <Healot> volt^warlock: buy a better graphics accelerator
[09:52] <B1zz> oooo me!
[09:52] <volt^warlock> Healot, "server's fps"
[09:52] <oskude> TheStudent, running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" is pretty newbie friendly program, if youre unsure what it asks, just take whats allready selected. tip: in the monitor settings select "medium" and it asks the default resolution in like "1024x768x75hz"
[09:52] <volt^warlock> not the game fps
[09:52] <Healot> and add more RAM and upgrade CPU...
[09:52] <Healot> for the server that is
[09:52] <Healot> or lower the resolution/color depth
[09:53] <userundefine> gullstad_, you might want to look at Listen (http://listengnome.free.fr/).  I don't have an iPod, but it supposedly has ipod support.  It's the amarok of GTK
[09:54] <asand> I've taken a look on my repositories but it still throws the same errors when I try to install openoffice.org
[09:54] <asand> especialy openoffice.org-core-experimental
[09:55] <daschu> can anyone help me understand why the partitioning tool won't commit my partition changes... it says to unmount the devices, but the disk tool in system settings says that none of the disks are mounted
[09:55] <finalbeta_> PORDO, I do, but you are in the wrong channel for that. this is support
[09:55] <barongas> daschu, what happens if you just type mount in terminal?
[09:55] <ph4nt0m> whats the best tv app for linux???
[09:56] <Healot> mythtv?
[09:56] <Seattle_Mike> Dapper Ubuntu, Kubuntu - I can not get nfs (client and server) working.  Is it possible or should I go back to Breezy where it works fine?
[09:57] <notrash> does anyone use a 3 Com 3c905x card
[09:57] <daschu> unionfs on / type unionfs (rw)
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: Are you mounting with -o nolock (otherwise it will take ages)
[09:57] <daschu> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[09:57] <daschu> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[09:57] <daschu> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[09:57] <daschu> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[09:57] <daschu> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[09:57] <daschu> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[09:58] <daschu> lol
[09:58] <daschu> sorry everyone... i'm new to linux AND irc
[09:58] <daschu> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[09:58] <daschu> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[09:58] <daschu> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[09:58] <daschu> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[09:58] <finalbeta_> stop
[09:58] <finalbeta_> check topic, paste things on a site
[09:58] <Seveas> !paste > daschu
[09:58] <_absolution_> how come I can't put a background image on fluxbox....
[09:59] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[09:59] <_absolution_> it keeps saying that "it doesn't find the files"
[09:59] <fates> hello everyone
[09:59] <_absolution_> or does anyone know a good site that'll teach me how to use "fluxbox"
[09:59] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn ... Good point I'll try that but after a long time it times out with Portmap not responding.
[10:00] <fates> i have a question  about frostwire...more of a predicament
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: If you don't use nolock you need portmap on both ends I think (But I don't remember)
[10:00] <notrash> does anyone use a 3com 3c905x network controller?
[10:01] <Healot> !nic
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about nic
[10:01] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn .. Yeah I've got portmap running ... I have a small home network and portmap runs on all.
[10:01] <daschu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16651
[10:01] <notrash> i mean the nic
[10:02] <Plouf> bonjour j'ai un pb de dmarage avec ubuntu 6.06 : il met 10 entre le chargement de /etc/rc.local et le lancemant des programme
[10:02] <_absolution_> where can I download "ndiswrapper"
[10:02] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: I just always use nolock these days if I have to use nfs but I prefer shfs most of the time
[10:02] <kbrooks> Hmmm
[10:02] <kbrooks> let's see
[10:02] <Healot> !fr
[10:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:02] <pvd2006> does ubuntu have problems with the Nvidia Vanta cards?
[10:02] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn OK my problem client  can mount no problem but I can't mount to it (i.e. it doesn't serve)
[10:02] <Plouf> sorry
[10:03] <Healot> Plouf: are you trying to put some startup entry into rc.local?
[10:03] <mdalek> hi, does anyone know if the bcm43xx driver supports ad-hoc or master modes?
[10:03] <Plouf> i don't see
[10:03] <Plouf> bie
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: I don't understand what you mean
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> mdaltek: No unless you use the experimental ones in the git repository
[10:03] <jeldert> wow, Ubuntu takes more space than I thought...
[10:04] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn -shfs .... OK you got me with shfs ... I never heard of it.  Repeat of my problem follows
[10:04] <jeldert> created a VM with 2GB hdd, and it's full already...
[10:04] <mdalek> h3sp4wn, so thats no ad-hoc :(
[10:04] <jeldert> can't even install all updates
[10:04] <kbrooks> Well, I'll admit it: EasyUbuntu is insecure if a user checks the option to keep EasyUbuntu's repo list
[10:04] <__mikem> I am trying to sign the coc on launch pad, and It keeps complaining about having no public key, whats going on
[10:04] <h3sp4wn> mdalek: Only if you want very experimental code
[10:04] <h3sp4wn> mdalek: And build it yourself
[10:04] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn On one machine it can mount nfs no problem as a client, but it can't serve to other machines. OK?
[10:04] <paul__> I was wondering if anyone is having trouble when using the run command line from alt-F2 in which you get an error stating gnome panel has crashed.
[10:05] <mdalek> h3sp4wn, ok thnx
[10:05] <nateman1352> hi everyone, I'm using Kubuntu 6.06 and I'm trying to get remote X clients to connect to my local X server via ssh and I can't seem to get it working (I am using ssh -X)
[10:05] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: And you has set /etc/exports the same as before yes ?
[10:05] <mdalek> h3sp4wn, none of the howto's specified this, i've been trying to get it to work for ages, and then i suddenly thought it may be the mode
[10:06] <h3sp4wn> mdalek: You have to run a really unstable development kernel to have a chance of it working
[10:06] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn Yes etc/exports was the same as Breezy  ... this boc was an upgrade from Breezy to Dapper.
[10:06] <mdalek> h3sp4wn, ok, no point then
[10:06] <__mikem> can someone help me with a problem signing the coc on launchpad?
[10:08] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn However: Dapper Install - same problem, can mount to server box but can't server itself.
[10:09] <gullstad_> Still no luck finding a good substitute to iTunes.
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: You are trying to mount localhost over nfs ?
[10:09] <oogy> can someone help me out with CPU spikes?  My mouse skips across the screen, the computer freezes up, etc whenever i start programs that eat up memory and cpu (like firefox). i have a 2.0 p4 with 256 megs of ram on dapper
[10:09] <oogy> i hear imusic is decent
[10:10] <paul__> Where can you research imusic?
[10:10] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn I use a mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/ /media/server   ... not localhost is it?
[10:10] <oogy> imusic has a lot of indie labels on it
[10:11] <oogy> i dont think its drm
[10:11] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn I'll try shfs but in the past ssh locally on the network was too slow - nfs speed is AOK.
[10:12] <__mikem> can someone help me with a problem signing the coc on launchpad? It keps saying "no public key"
[10:13] <arapehl> oskude: I've got an MD5 checker... the page I got the .iso from is: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/, I downloaded the "PC (Intel x86) desktop CD " under "Desktop CD"... I guess the MD5s are below?
[10:13] <__mikem> #gpg
[10:14] <__mikem> crap
[10:14] <neighborlee> using standard ubuntu CD , im trying to 'rescue' my system from having had to reinstall windows XP...rescue mode complains about error code 20, and going through regular installer via mounting / and telling it to install grub again also does not work but gives no error messae...any ideas how to get past this ?? ;)
[10:14] <QRZ> __mikem:  Have you generated a keypair for your user?
[10:14] <__mikem> Yes I did
[10:14] <__mikem> I used the defaultoption to generate the keypair
[10:15] <arapehl> oskude: checking MD5 now
[10:15] <Ro1> can someone help me? I used to use windows and connect to my wireless network...but now in ubuntu i also do yet it is so much slower,,anyone help?
[10:16] <QRZ> __mikem:  When you run, 'gpg --list-keys' at the command prompt, does it list your keypair?
[10:16] <Ng> anyone know if it's possibly to decrease the frequency at which network-manager scans for APs?
[10:17] <__mikem> It lists 3 keypairs all of which are owned by me. All of them are failed attempts to get this thing to accept something
[10:17] <Ro1> can someone help me? I used to use windows and connect to my wireless network...but now in ubuntu i also do yet it is so much slower,,anyone help?
[10:17] <Ro1> hey mikem
[10:17] <__mikem> HEy
[10:17] <_absolution_> how come I get a "permission denied" when I'm trying to access something?
[10:17] <Ro1> maybe your not root?
[10:17] <Ro1> mikem,think you can help me?
[10:17] <_absolution_> even when I log in as root it doesn't find the file
[10:18] <Ro1> hmm, odd
[10:18] <__mikem> WIthout knowing what kind of wireless router you have, not really
[10:18] <b14ck> how can i access .folder in gnome?
[10:18] <userundefine> press Ctrl+H in nautilus
[10:18] <Ro1> i know...its a wrt54g
[10:18] <Ng> b14ck: View->Show Hidden Files in a file browser window
[10:18] <__mikem> I never used that one before. SO I really can't
[10:19] <b14ck> Ng:  doesn't show. .wine to be exact
[10:19] <Esquire> Has anyone noticed that webdav via apache is excrutiatingly slow on ubuntu?
[10:19] <fowlduck> anyone have experience getting rdoc and ri to work, mine is....broken....
[10:19] <Ng> b14ck: if it's there, it should show it
[10:20] <b14ck> Ng:  ok then what is the cd command for program files? like in CD progra~1
[10:20] <Healot> cd
[10:20] <b14ck> Ng:  i can find it in terminal but i don know how to change the filder :P
[10:20] <b14ck> folder*
[10:20] <crashzor> b14ck,  its cd progamma\ files
[10:21] <crashzor> b14ck, and look out P = not the same as p
[10:21] <fowlduck> anyone?
[10:21] <b14ck> crashzor: i know :P
[10:21] <crashzor> b14ck, you can \ space bars away
[10:21] <crashzor> or use ""
[10:22] <Healot> just tab tab until you get the path corrected automagically by bash
[10:22] <crashzor> Healot, now i just love typing by hand ;)
[10:22] <Paladine> hmmm having issues with dvd playback
[10:22] <Healot> I am just lazy but I am speedy
[10:22] <b14ck> crashzor: cd /.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[10:22] <crashzor> and i name my folders in uni-code for extra fun :p
[10:23] <Paladine> anyone care to help?
[10:23] <crashzor> try cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[10:23] <kindor> word op
[10:23] <Paladine> css issue
[10:23] <crashzor> b14ck, .wine is in you're home folder not in /
[10:23] <Healot> !dvd
[10:23] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:23] <b14ck> crashzor: yep it worked thanx m8
[10:24] <Paladine> ahh I had to open the drive and close it again after installing the css decrypter
[10:24] <b14ck> crashzor: ok one more thing. a move folder command ( with all files)
[10:24] <_absolution_> do I need the xserver going to play around with fluxbox?
[10:25] <CarlFK> yes
[10:25] <arapehl> oskude: Uhm, *blush* the MD5s don't match
[10:25] <crashzor> b14ck, try creating a folder samewere you wanted it and just typ cp -drf /werefrom /wereto then you can remove the old folder using rm -drf /whattoremove
[10:26] <b14ck> crashzor: golden mate. thanx
[10:26] <crashzor> yw
[10:26] <zcat[1] > umm.. 'mv /foo /bar  has always worked for me...
[10:27] <CarlFK> is there a Palm desktop like app that will sync with my palm pda ?
[10:27] <drako_> where is ttyUSB1 ? I cant find it
[10:27] <zcat[1] > ex. ' mv foo/ Desktop/ '
[10:27] <joh> Hmm, WindowsDualBootHowTo at the wiki mentions that the ubuntu installer should detect all other installed operating systems. If I've already got Ubuntu installed and installs another OS, how can I add the new OS (windows) to the GRUB boot menu? Is there any way to do this automatically?
[10:27] <erUSUL> drako_: if it exist it will be in /dev
[10:27] <bruenig> joh, if you try to install windows second, it will probably overwrite grub
[10:27] <AJR1> guys im about to install ubuntu, but when im choosing a partition i have a spare 20gb, what do i do with the other drives? leave them as set to "media/hda" ? coz it says its goin to destroy the data ... n i defo dont want that to happen
[10:28] <crashzor> joh, it probley wil boot windows because windows of write's the MBR
[10:28] <CarlFK> joh: installing windows will wipe our grub - o
[10:28] <crashzor> ( master boot record )
[10:28] <Krhis> Windows is simple minded. It overwrites grub.
[10:28] <crashzor> CarlFK, Krhis i was just saying dat ;)
[10:28] <bruenig> AJR1, mount them as the media, they wont reformat, it will just be a drive that you can access and read in ubuntu
[10:28] <Esquire> Does anyone know why webdav works so slowly on ubuntu? I get a long pause while any file I copy over "closes" ... I never get this on my freebsd server and I have used gentoo and never gotten it... twice as fast on each of those systems... any ideas?
[10:28] <drako_> erUSUL, well is not there however /var/log/message tells me ttyUSB1 is present (a palm device)
[10:28] <Krhis> crashzor, great minds think alike. :P
[10:28] <CarlFK> joh: so install windows, then dink arround with the live cd to put grub back
[10:29] <AJR1> bruenig thanks so just leave them as they are yeah ?
[10:29] <crashzor> Krhis, yes you're right ;)
[10:29] <joh> bruenig: Well, I've got 2 disks - so I switched the master/slave settings when installing windows. Now windows is on master and linux on slave, but I would like to revert this and make the GRUB which is installed on the MBR on the linux disk to recognize the windows installation on the slave.
[10:29] <Healot> Windows developers doesn't expect dual booting... they don't need to be flexible on installing bootloader
[10:29] <bruenig> AJR1, make sure the reformat box isn't clicked
[10:29] <Krhis> crashzor, hear about XP's new kill switch?
[10:29] <AJR1> bruenig thanks :)
[10:29] <zcat[1] > AJR1: just double-check that it's mounting them and NOT reformatting them. That should be the default though.
[10:29] <MTecknology> Any help for why VM Ware server won't mount a Linux DVD iso to install from?? It just stays a blinking cursor in the corner
[10:29] <Inferus> Hi all, i have just stuck ubuntu onto my laptop but supposedly i dont have the 'make' function??!?!?!?!
[10:29] <Inferus> I have gcc
[10:29] <Cyorxamp> OK folks - Simple question (yes/no please) - Is Ubuntu Commercial (i'd like alot of answers please just to confirm)...
[10:29] <Healot> NO
[10:29] <crashzor> Krhis, nope
[10:30] <erUSUL> !build-essential > Inferus
[10:30] <Inferus> ok ty
[10:30] <joh> CarlFK: Well, I don't have the dapper livecd. I just upgraded my breezy installation.
[10:30] <muksie> I have an amd64 system with ubuntu 6.06 x86_64. So I tried to compile and install wine as described in http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit But when I do make depend, it starts compiling but when it tries to compile sfnt2fnt it skips several incompatible libz.so's and libz.a's found on my system and then stops compiling. What could be wrong with my libz.so?
[10:30] <Healot> but Canonical does support ubuntu for some amount of money
[10:30] <Inferus> thx erUSUL
[10:30] <erUSUL> Inferus: no problem
[10:30] <LjL> Cyorxamp: instead of having the channel disrupted with multiple (how many? 751?) answers, why don't you check that out for yourself, if you really need to be sure?
[10:31] <bruenig> joh, i am not familiar with the two disk dual boot however it seems as if you could edit the grub menu list at /boot/grub/menu.lst and put a new entry for windows with the appropriate information
[10:31] <Healot> bruenig: deosn't hurt if you "man grub"
[10:32] <CarlFK> most of the ubuntu CD's can be enough of a live cd for what you need
[10:32] <CarlFK> joh: (see above)
[10:32] <KuLover> Could someone please take a look at my fstab? I'm not sure that it is written correctly. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16640
[10:32] <AJR1> upon installing ubuntu, i use wifi, and i wont have access to the libraries, so how am i goin to get it to work?
[10:32] <signalvsnoise> hi, all.  Anyone know how to move a the mouse cursor between xservers in a non-xinerama multihead setup?
[10:32] <crashzor> Infecto, sudo apt-get install make
[10:33] <LjL> !build-essential
[10:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[10:33] <CarlFK> joh: boot the breezy cd, I forget if ther is an optoin on the boot screen - but before you get to the partitioner, hit Alt-F2 and you will get a shell where you can run grub to reinstall it
[10:33] <gullstad_> Hard to find a substitide fpr iTunes. Anyone using any subtututes for iPod?
[10:33] <drako_> [4359002.954000]  usb 4-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1
[10:33] <drako_> but i cant find that ttyUSB1
[10:33] <drako_> ...
[10:33] <judah> gullstad_: check out banshee
[10:34] <gullstad_> judah: Are you using iPod?
[10:34] <judah> gullstad_: i use an ipod. yes.
[10:34] <CarlFK> drako_: speaking of visor - what app will sync with it?
[10:34] <joh> CarlFK: Sure, which will run some sort of OS auto-detection. Any idea how I can run this from an already functional ubuntu system? I.e. if I boot up with my old GRUB (on the master disk) and add the windows installation on my slave?
[10:34] <drako_> CarlFK, jpilot
[10:34] <gullstad_> judah: And you can transfer?
[10:34] <CarlFK> drako_: thanks
[10:35] <judah> gullstad_: works great with banshee.
[10:35] <bruenig> joh, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list
[10:35] <bruenig> menu.lst*
[10:35] <gullstad_> judah: I'll check it out :)
[10:35] <joh> bruenig: I've tried that, but I'm unable to create an entry which will boot :P
[10:35] <CarlFK> joh - is windows all ready installed?
[10:35] <judah> gullstad_: of corse i can.. it's formated fat32 ... no problems.
[10:35] <judah> gullstad_: www.banshee-project.org
[10:35] <joh> CarlFK: Yes, both windows and linux is already installed.
[10:36] <bruenig> joh, it should work, just follow that template that is commented out and fill it in with the appropriate information
[10:36] <joh> CarlFK: Linux on the master disk (containing the old lin-only GRUB on the MBR) and windows on the slave.
[10:36] <judah> gullstad_: but a great verison is in the dapper repos.. so sudo apt-get install banshee banshee-daap
[10:36] <joh> bruenig: Hmm, that's what I did, but it didn't work. I wonder if it's even possible to run windows from the slave drive..? :S
[10:36] <jiv> hi what does means in ./configure :   checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:37] <joh> jiv: Install gcc
[10:37] <jiv> i have lasted
[10:37] <bruenig> joh, what did you put for your root entry
[10:37] <judah> jiv: install build-essential actually.
[10:37] <Sivik> jiv: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:37] <jiv> tnx i try
[10:37] <AJR1> anyone know how to get wifi configed upon ubuntu install? as you cant access synaptic
[10:38] <judah> ajr1 wireless will work by default for most cards i bet. what kind of card are you using?
[10:38] <Sivik> AJR1, what kind of wireless card and you want it to start on boot up right
[10:38] <Speek> Will ubuntu work with a Dual Core Intel?
[10:38] <Sivik> yeah, why wouldn't it
[10:38] <bruenig> speek, yes
[10:38] <Amaranth> AJR1: you have to use the terminal to set it up so you can install network-manager-gnome
[10:38] <AJR1> Sivik NetGear Wifi USB Adapter
[10:38] <Amaranth> Speek: Works great.
[10:38] <AJR1> judah NetGear Wifi USB Adapter
[10:38] <Sivik> AJR1, did you google it?
[10:38] <joh> bruenig: something like: title Windows \n rootnoverify (hd1,0) \n chainloader +1 \n makeactive
[10:38] <Amaranth> AJR1: Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[10:38] <AJR1> Sivik tried couldnt get a good hit
[10:39] <Speek> Will it be hard to use my Wireless PCI card with my Wireless Router?
[10:39] <Amaranth> Speek: Dunno.
[10:39] <AJR1> Amaranth ok tell you what, im goin to boot ubuntu onto this machine - then im getting my laptop and loggin in here :P
[10:39] <Amaranth> AJR1: ok
[10:39] <AJR1> brb all ... here comes ubuntu ;)
[10:39] <CarlFK> joh = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16656
[10:39] <timas> howdy folks
[10:39] <Amaranth> hey timas
[10:40] <judah> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[10:40] <Speek> Can I have my windows xp and ubuntu linux on the same harddrive?
[10:40] <SeanTater> anyone here use distcc ? I was using it to see how well it did, but it does not read the hostlists' (the variable, in /etc and in ~ )
[10:40] <bruenig> joh, looks good to me, i guess it doesn't work like that for 2 disks
[10:40] <bruenig> Speek, yes
[10:40] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn I can't use shfs - module is not in 2.6.15-23-386 .. thanks for your help.
[10:40] <joh> CarlFK: Well, in my setup windows is installed on hdb, hence root (hd1,0)... I don't know if that's the problem though.
[10:40] <timas> Ok, my question for today:  If I'm having issues with my drive being mounted at boottime, what could be the problem? It seems like its not finding my drive at all.. so I'm guessing drivers?
[10:40] <joh> brettcar: Probably...
[10:40] <Amaranth> Speek: yep
[10:40] <gdb> Does anyone know how I can get a Trash icon on my desktop?  Ubuntu (ie; GNOME).
[10:41] <LjL> !tell gdb about icons
[10:41] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: You can build it with module assistant
[10:41] <Amaranth> Speek: If you just go with the defaults for the partitioning in the installer it'll try to shrink the Windows partition to make room for Ubuntu and set it up so you can choose which one you want to use at boot time.
[10:41] <Esquire> Does anyone know why webdav is so friggin slow on ubuntu or how to speed it up? This is make or break for my decision on whether or not to use ubuntu.
[10:41] <Seattle_Mike2> h3sp4wn OK I shall try it.
[10:42] <oogy> can someone help me out, i am getting 100% CPU usage when accessing my harddrive.. apt-get, opening web pages, anything that actually accesses and writes the hd gives me 100% CPU and even the mouse skips across the screen any ideas?
[10:42] <Speek> What can I use to code C++ program in ubuntu?
[10:42] <timas> Kdevelop, speek
[10:42] <KenSentMe> Anyone here with a dutch installation of Kubuntu?
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> Speek: vim / emacs / kdevelop
[10:42] <Speek> Will my Photoshop CS2 and Illustrator CS2 work?
[10:42] <LjL> oogy: do you know if your drive is using DMA?
[10:42] <mjr> anjuta, emacs, vi
[10:42] <oogy> DMA is on
[10:42] <bruenig> !ne
[10:42] <oogy> hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda1
[10:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about ne
[10:43] <timas> Speek, They might with wine.. check out winehq.org
[10:43] <oogy> its a SATA drive if that matters
[10:43] <KenSentMe> Or is there somewhere i can see how some menu options are translated?
[10:43] <joh> Does Ubuntu include NTFS write support?
[10:43] <LjL> joh: no
[10:43] <bruenig> joh, no
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> !module-assistant
[10:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about module-assistant
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> !m-a
[10:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about m-a
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> !moduleassistant
[10:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about moduleassistant
[10:43] <timas> oogy was this an anwser to my question?
[10:43] <joh> LjL, bruenig: ok, thanks.
[10:43] <oogy> dma is on
[10:43] <bruenig> joh, if you want file sharing between your windows and linux, just make a fat32 partition
[10:43] <Speek> Is iwne seprate with ubuntu?
[10:44] <timas> Speek: Yeah, apt-get install wine
[10:44] <Amaranth> brb
[10:44] <CarlFK> joh: not a problem for grub as long as you set the hd right - is that where windows was originally?
[10:44] <Speek> Awsome!
[10:44] <CarlFK> joh: cuz if you moved win from hda to hdb, it is gona be pised
[10:44] <joh> bruenig: Uhm, well :P or use Explore2fs I guess...
[10:44] <joh> CarlFK: That's what I did :P
[10:45] <joh> CarlFK: Windows refused to be installed in the slave...
[10:45] <bruenig> !windows
[10:45] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:45] <Speek> NFTS is this going to be a problem?
[10:45] <joh> CarlFK: I guess ubuntu won't tolerate being moved from hda to hdb either...
[10:45] <CarlFK> joh: win will proabaly refuse to run ;)
[10:45] <mjr> Speek, not unless you want to write to it
[10:45] <_absolution_> what does "untarring" mean? is that like extracting?
[10:46] <Timas> I've been writing to my NTFS drive..
[10:46] <bruenig> yes
[10:46] <mjr> _absolution_, yes, extracting a tar
[10:46] <LjL> oogy: perhaps try pasting the output of hdparm -i to the pastebin
[10:46] <CarlFK> joh - linux will hadle being moved very easily - just fix grub and /etc/fstab
[10:46] <Timas> _absolution_: yeah, it is
[10:46] <joh> CarlFK: Argh, and I'm only installing windows to run this game :/
[10:46] <gdb> LjL: Thank you!  That's perfect!
[10:46] <Speek> How do install ubuntu on NFTS?
[10:46] <mjr> Speek, you don't
[10:46] <oogy> pastebin?
[10:46] <IrIT_> Anyone here using Monodevelop?
[10:46] <Timas> Speek: That doesn't work
[10:46] <joh> CarlFK: Yeah, I know :) I just have to fiddle around in the Busybox shell :P
[10:46] <joh> CarlFK: Or the livecd
[10:46] <Speek> Then I guess I cant have ubuntu?
[10:46] <LjL> !tell oogy about pastebin
[10:46] <LjL> Speek: why?
[10:46] <marcus__> Windows........
[10:46] <mjr> Speek, you resize the ntfs if necessary to make space for Linux partitions
[10:46] <newbuntu> whats the command to copy a file over to your system when your on a remote system using shh-server?
[10:46] <joh> CarlFK: Well, I guess that's what I have to do then. Move lin from hda to hdb...
[10:47] <_absolution_> so do use a terminal to compile the "untarred" file?
[10:47] <Speek> Well I only have one hard drive on this pc for now and windows is on it
[10:47] <Speek> it has space for linux
[10:47] <Speek> it's NFTS
[10:47] <bruenig> NTFS
[10:47] <Timas> _absolution_: that all depends on the stuff you untar..
[10:47] <LjL> !tell speek about dualboot
[10:47] <Timas> No-one for my boot mounting issues with the newer kernels?
[10:47] <joh> !tell joh about dualboot
[10:48] <newbuntu> im trying sudo cp -r<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/home/sara but the file doesnt show up at this end
[10:48] <CarlFK> Speek:  the installer will let you resize the ntfs partition to make space for Linux
[10:48] <Xenguy> After upgrading to Dapper, I have this odd problem:  I leave my workstation on 24/7 which used to work fine.  Now, each morning when I check the PC, my keyboard gives no output anymore for that X session (although my mouse still works).  I have to switch user to a terminal, become root, and then stop and start gdm in order to get a new X session that allows my keyboard to work.  Does anyone have an idea why this might be happening?
[10:48] <Kibou> newbuntu: scp
[10:48] <Boyaka> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386 this is live cd or what?
[10:48] <Timas> Xenguy: USB or PS2?
[10:48] <newbuntu> kibou scp instead of cp - r?
[10:48] <Xenguy> Timas: ps2
[10:48] <Boyaka> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386 this is live cd or what?
[10:49] <Timas> Xenguy: The mouse too?
[10:49] <LjL> Boyaka: it is the desktop cd. it boots a live system and you can install from it
[10:49] <Kibou> newbuntu: man scp
[10:49] <Xenguy> Timas: no, the mouse works fine
[10:49] <Esquire> Boyaka, yes
[10:49] <Esquire> Live CD and Install
[10:49] <Kibou> gotta specify the host and everything
[10:49] <Timas> Xenguy: Is the mouse PS2, too? or is it usb?
[10:49] <CarlFK> newbuntu: aloon does it say it is coping, or error?  (I am guessing it does show up, but you don't have right to it becaseu aloon<>sarah
[10:49] <Xenguy> Timas: sorry, the mouse is PS2 also
[10:50] <newbuntu> it just goes to next line no error
[10:50] <pvd2006> How can you get the screen brighter on Ubuntu?
[10:50] <kaiSVK> hi all ... I just need to set up user to log ing automatically by the boot ...
[10:50] <Timas> Xenguy: In that case, I have no idea, sorry.. I was thinking something along the lines with the machine disabling your keyboard in a weird powersaving mode.. but if the mouse is ps2 too that would get disabled as well
[10:50] <Speek> Well if I have anymore problems with ubuntu I will contact you guys
[10:50] <Speek> thanks for the help :)
[10:50] <Speek> <3
[10:50] <newbuntu> do i have to chown the file first?
[10:50] <Xenguy> Timas: OK, thanks anyway
[10:50] <argyro> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/POy8LR80.html
[10:51] <Xenguy> Timas: I have no idea what the matter could be
[10:51] <marcus__> I'm just wondering why the various builds of ubuntu have a problem with hal32?
[10:51] <argyro> I got a new kernel, so my broadcom minipci chipset is supported better(i hope?)...but I get this message from iwconfig; do i need to install a new wireless-tools?
[10:51] <Boyaka> LjL : you mean i can install Ubuntu on my system with this disc?
[10:51] <Healot> what does a Linux program need Windows HAL for compilation, marcus__?
[10:51] <LjL> Boyaka: yes.
[10:52] <LjL> it's the main cd, it's the first link from the left, i really don't understand why people keep doubting that it's the "real" ubuntu cd :\
[10:52] <newbuntu> im having a hard time finding the command in scp man to copy a folder or file over
[10:52] <marcus__> healot it doesn't, but before i gave up windows, every dual boot with any ubuntu product wiuld erase hal32. i was just curious why
[10:53] <swaj> LjL:  most operating systems don't install from a LiveCD :P
[10:53] <Timas> meh. So no-one has issues with the kernels higher than -19?  It wont boot my machine in anything newer as the -19 kernels :(
[10:53] <Healot> Ubuntu installation won't erase any Windows file unless you delete the Windows system partition, marcus__
[10:53] <Healot> what actually you did?
[10:54] <IKE> hello
[10:54] <IKE> can you use windows files in Ubuntu ?
[10:54] <Timas> IKE, with wine, yeah
[10:54] <IKE> okey
[10:54] <lamego> what do you mean by Windows files ?
[10:55] <lamego> You don't need wine to open data files
[10:55] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn - I give up.  Where is moduleassistant?  I have modle-init-tools installed but no ma
[10:55] <Timas> actually, thats a good question..
[10:55] <kismet> Any idea why after a fresh install of ubuntu I get "could not open default font 'fixed'" as error message of X.org and it doesn't start?
[10:55] <IKE> i meant i lite timas answerd :P
[10:55] <krang> Hey, does anyone know how I can prevent a user from logging on at more than one machine? (NIS central user DB)
[10:55] <marcus__> healot oh okay dont matter anymore, was just curious like i said. very happy kubutu user now for a while. :)
[10:55] <runge> hintswen, im new to burning in linux/ubuntu.. how do you burn a .vob file to a dvd?
[10:55] <runge> err
[10:55] <Healot> !info k3b
[10:55] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 3941 kB, installed size 8376 kB
[10:55] <marcus__> healot thanks for your time. :)
[10:56] <lamego> krang, I don't believe that is possible unless you add some script during the login which does a match between the user and the system
[10:56] <IKE> if i whant to make a linux partition wich program sholud i use ?
[10:56] <krang> lamego: damn, cheers anyway
[10:56] <runge> Healot, I know of k3b, but how would one burn .vob file? I do not see any setting
[10:56] <Healot> fdisk, (g/qt)parted
[10:57] <Healot> runge -> Menu File -> New Project -> New DVD Video Project
[10:57] <runge> IKE, I like cfdisk, its console based
[10:57] <judah> !xgl
[10:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: /usr/bin/module-assistant (once its installed) sudo apt-get install modules-assistant (you probably also want shfs-utils and shfs-source)
[10:57] <runge> thanks Healot, I will check it out! (I tried dvd-movie thing, but it dident work)
[10:57] <judah> thanks ubotu!!!
[10:57] <Healot> drag/load your DVD file to the appropriate folder... runge
[10:58] <IKE> Healot fdisk, (g/qt)parted was it to me `?
[10:58] <Healot> no, to MR. William :)
[10:58] <IKE> ok
[10:58] <IKE> if i whant to make a linux partition wich program sholud i use ?
[10:58] <Snurf> How do i get my speakers to work? They worked right upon install last time I installed Ubuntu
[10:59] <dwight> which is better, the liferea-gtkhtml or liferea-mozilla
[11:00] <mdalek> has anyone had any problems with window frames not appearing
[11:00] <Healot> define "better"
[11:00] <mdalek> only happens in some apps i run
[11:00] <Snurf> mdalek: what are you using
[11:00] <benyx> Hi! i have a little problem..   the volume control's shortcut key on my keyboard dont work
[11:00] <mdalek> and on my laptop its fine
[11:00] <mdalek> gnome
[11:00] <Snurf> Oh
[11:00] <IKE> THX for the help
[11:01] <LjL> swaj: a few operating systems do install from a "live cd", although it isn't necessarily called a "live cd" since that's simply the way they've always been installed
[11:01] <Snurf> How do i get my speakers to work?
[11:02] <benyx> i see the progressbar on the screen.. but dont affect the sound
[11:02] <swaj> LjL, livecd's are not commonly used for system installs, which is why a lot of people are confused.  Usually the LiveCD is used for testing whether the distribution will work at all, and then subsequent disc downloads allow for actual installation.
[11:02] <benyx> and all work with the liveCD  and not after installing
[11:02] <LjL> swaj: at any rate, the first line of the paragraph describing the Desktop CD (right where you download it) says "The desktop CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later."
[11:02] <Tom7e> i'm a former fedora user, so i'm not used to how this works... when i installed ubuntu i didn't set a su password... so what is my su password?
[11:02] <Snurf> !audio
[11:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio
[11:02] <fowlduck> !root
[11:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:03] <teferra> A friend wants to join https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-l10n-am. but the menu bar on the left side which holds the join link is not coming. the other sites are ok but only this site.
[11:03] <swaj> LjL, agreed, but confusion abounds
[11:03] <barongas> how do I cp folders? I want to migrate my home folder to another drive...
[11:03] <LjL> !tell barongas about cli
[11:03] <compengi> does someone know where can i find ebooks on learning bash language?
[11:03] <swaj> barongas, cp -R /home/yourname /other/drive
[11:04] <Healot> wikibooks >> compengi
[11:04] <Tom7e> i've used sudo before... so i can never become root?  then why does the su command still ask for a password?
[11:04] <swaj> Tom7e, sudo su - root
[11:04] <LjL> swaj, barongas: or more likely cp -a blah blah
[11:04] <loststar4545> i compiled xine-lib wrong and want to remove it and replace it with the old one
[11:05] <swaj> LjL, -R is a recursive copy and works fine ;)
[11:05] <LjL> !tell tom7e about sudo
[11:05] <loststar4545> how do i do that
[11:05] <compengi> Healot, ty
[11:05] <LjL> swaj: why would you use "sudo su - root"?
[11:05] <barongas> swaj, it doesn't want to copy examples folder and complains about not wanting to create symbolic links
[11:05] <kimo> Tom7e: sudo -i
[11:05] <Tom7e> ok thanks
[11:05] <dura> loststar4545, rm -rf /foo ?
[11:05] <krang> Hey, how do you set things so that users automatically lock their screens after x minutes, then log off after y minutes more?
[11:05] <swaj> LjL, he asked how to become root, and I answered him
[11:05] <dura> krang, Settings in xscreensaver
[11:05] <LjL> swaj: yeah, except it doesn't preserve ownerships and it follows symlinks. not what you want normally
[11:05] <Tom7e> sudo -i is very nice
[11:05] <dura> Not sure about the logout though
[11:05] <krang> dura: cheers
[11:05] <LjL> swaj: but that's a bad answer. "sudo -i" is a much better one
[11:06] <Tom7e> is it possible to make gnome automatically log me in when i start my computer?
[11:06] <swaj> LjL, either way is fine
[11:07] <dura> Tom7e, Yes
[11:07] <Tom7e> ohh, sorry, i see how
[11:07] <blacktears> what is a bittorent meta file?
[11:07] <blacktears> bittorrent
[11:07] <dura> blacktears, , The file that contains the information to assemble the torrent
[11:07] <blacktears> where is it?
[11:08] <dura> Depends
[11:08] <dura> It's usually with the torrent... and it's usually hidden
[11:08] <dura> so like .foo
[11:08] <LjL> swaj: sudo -i has always been the very much recommended way on this channel and elsewhere in the ubuntu documentation. sudo su is redundant, at the very least
[11:08] <dura> If you have to type a password with sudo, just use su
[11:08] <_absolution_> why do I get an error message when i'm using this command line "tar -zxvf"?
[11:08] <dura> or su -
[11:08] <dashrilla> do I have to erase the HD in order to partition it for Linux install?   20 gigs free / defrag'd  want to run dual boot windows/ubuntu
[11:08] <Timas> few new people here now..  anyone have an idea how I can get my drive to work with the kernels after the -19 edition? Anything newer as the -19 can't find my root drive and thus makes it impossible for me to run with that.. I'm stuck using the -19 kernel..
[11:09] <dura> _absolution_, Maybe you're using the wrong switch for the file you're trying to unpack?
[11:09] <krang> So, anyone know how to auto logoff a user after a certain time?
[11:09] <swaj> LjL, whatever
[11:09] <_absolution_> what do you suggest?
[11:09] <fowlduck> anyone have ruby ri working in ubuntu here?
[11:09] <blacktears> hey
[11:09] <kalosaurusrex> abso: try just tar xvfz <file>
[11:09] <blacktears> i want to download music with linux what should i use?
[11:09] <dura> _absolution_, What's kind of file is it? Are you trying to compress or uncompress?
[11:10] <_absolution_> uncompress
[11:10] <dura> blacktears, LimeWire works well... or GTK-Gnutella
[11:10] <LjL> dura: where you talking to me about the "su -" thing?
[11:10] <dura> _absolution_, Okay what is the file extension?
[11:10] <LjL> s/where/were
[11:10] <_absolution_> tar.gz
[11:10] <dura> LjL, No... just said it in general
[11:10] <Snurf> How do i get audio to work????
[11:10] <compengi> what languages should i know to help developing ubuntu?
[11:10] <dura> _absolution_, then do tar zxvf
[11:10] <LjL> dura: anyway i don't see how you *can* use "su -" in ubuntu
[11:10] <MTecknology> how do I do a checksum??
[11:10] <_absolution_> that's what I'm using
[11:10] <dura> LjL, I do it daily
[11:10] <LjL> dura: except, that is, by... using sudo
[11:10] <Dial_tone> how do you combine histories from several different shells into one history file?
[11:11] <cbo> hello all. Does someone have a clue on how to set up hostname on bootup, i'm going to use the same hd image for multiple computers, i need them to get its name on boot up.
[11:11] <dura> First I do sudo passwd, set the root password, and then I can su -
[11:11] <kalosaurusrex> abso: don't use the "-" just "tar xvfz"
[11:11] <jojoman02> Want Itunes in Ubuntu? Try SongBird instead, www.songbirdnest.com , the linux beta binary has been released.
[11:11] <dura> the - is depreciated.
[11:11] <LjL> dura: then you have enabled the root password. while it's your right, as it's your computer, please don't advice doing that to people.
[11:11] <dura> No longer needed.
[11:11] <kimo> anyone here using OSX on a regular x86 PC?? (where do we get the drivers from!)
[11:11] <Snurf> How do i get audio to work???
[11:11] <crashzor> anybody know who to get mp3 suport installed on dapper ( for xmms )
[11:11] <dura> LjL, Using sudo and typing a password is just as redundent as using sudo su lol
[11:11] <Aven> How do I get audio to work???
[11:11] <mutzenbacher> hello. i no good english i read from UBUNTU VIRUS here: http://3bad8.dr.ag/ubuntu-virus-2004-12-13-12-20
[11:11] <dura> crashzor, Search the Ubuntu wiki
[11:11] <kimo> !tell crashzor about restricted
[11:11] <mutzenbacher> must i update some ding?
[11:11] <dura> There is a nice howto
[11:11] <compengi> Aven, get a driver
[11:11] <Aven> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE
[11:12] <Aven> MY INTERNET IS NOT WORKING
[11:12] <Aven> IT KEEPS SAYING PING TIMEOUT
[11:12] <Timas> Aven, your internet is fine
[11:12] <LjL> dura: deprecated? heck, no. it's just no longer needed. the standard way to pass options is "-x" or "--xyz", and while tar allows leaving the "-" out, it's certainly not deprecated
[11:12] <iamelite> Hello, i just started getting errors. My sound in cirtain apps dont work, and my Video drivers reverted to ATI Standard (Mesa) I dont know what my wife was doing...
[11:12] <Snurf> How do I get audio to work???
[11:12] <dwight> which is better, the liferea-gtkhtml or liferea-mozilla
[11:12] <Aven> Timas: NO IM USING MY LAPTOP RIGHT NOW IT HAS WINDOWS VISTA
[11:12] <Snurf> How do I get audio to work???
[11:12] <compengi> Snurf, get a driver
[11:12] <Aven> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GUIDE ME INTO WORKING IT
[11:12] <Timas> Aven: dude, relax, please
[11:12] <dura> Man... there are more morons here then in LFS:1
[11:12] <Snurf> compengi: where how
[11:12] <kalosaurusrex> aven stop the caps..
[11:12] <Aven> Timas: LOL, IM RELAXED
[11:12] <Aven> OHHH OK, DIDN'T KNOW CAPS WERE ANNOYING
[11:12] <Aven> there
[11:12] <Timas> Aven: or.. girl, but yeah. This isn't calling for a lot of assistance..
[11:12] <compengi> what is your card manifacturer
[11:12] <LjL> dura: err, except that if you type "sudo su", you're using a program that changes your privileges (sudo) to run a program that changes your privileges (su) -- and that's redundant
[11:13] <Aven> Timas: I'm both
[11:13] <Snurf> copmengi I have no clue
[11:13] <LjL> !tell aven about caps
[11:13] <kimo> Aven: sudo lspci, note your network card, google its linux driver
[11:13] <Snurf> Intel I think
[11:13] <dura> LjL, You're preaching to the choir...
[11:13] <Snurf> compengi Intel yes
[11:13] <AJR1> just tried installing ubuntu, and i selected the partition and everything and it did something, and then nothing happened?! what did i do wrong? :P
[11:13] <Aven> dura: please don't message me
[11:13] <compengi> Snurf, what is your board
[11:13] <dura> Aven, I didn't
[11:13] <Snurf> compengi I DONT KNWO
[11:13] <Aven> well someone did
[11:13] <Aven> someone ordered LjL
[11:13] <blacktears> now i have the limewire.bin file what do i do with it
[11:13] <LjL> Aven: Ubotu did, because i asked it
[11:13] <Snurf> How do i find out?
[11:13] <dura> Aven, Read the posts in the room
[11:13] <swaj> LjL, except that sudo just lets you execute a command as root, where su lets you become root.  If you don't know your root password, then sudo su is a viable solution.  Redundant? I think not.
[11:14] <dura> geeesh
[11:14] <H> t./ it
[11:14] <Snurf> 'board | grep what is it'
[11:14] <Snurf> lol
[11:14] <Aven> dura: wut doz post mean
[11:14] <compengi> Snurf, what are you running now?
[11:14] <Aven> windowz
[11:14] <dura> Aven, I'm ignoring you  now.
[11:14] <Snurf> Ubuntu 6.06
[11:14] <Snurf> compengi
[11:14] <LjL> swaj: eh? so, how *exactly* does "sudo -i" *not* let you become root?
[11:14] <compengi> ?
[11:14] <mutzenbacher> what is loose with ubunzu virus ? i read some but no good english. must i update some? i read here; http://3bad8.dr.ag/ubuntu-virus-2004-12-13-12-20
[11:14] <Snurf> compengi I am running Ubuntu 6.06
[11:14] <blacktears> what do i do with the limewirelinux.bin file?
[11:14] <swaj> LjL, I never said it didn't, but sudo su isn't redundant
[11:14] <compengi> ok i got that
[11:14] <Snurf> Ok what else you need
[11:15] <compengi> lol
[11:15] <AJR1> can i install ubuntu onto a partition from within windows?
[11:15] <Timas> Mutzenbacher the date on that url is 2004 I'm taking it
[11:15] <dura> blacktears,  chmod a+x limewire.bin && ./limewire.bin as root or using sudo
[11:15] <compengi> wait till i can help
[11:15] <Tom7e> is fglrx-driver the name of the ati radeon driver?
[11:15] <Cyorxamp> OK I just found out that xvid is not 'free' as it follows the mpeg4 standard which is mpeg-la ruled and thus the ideas it uses are patented thus can't be in ubuntu - what about WIMP?  xerox invented the WIMP 'idea' so how can ubuntu exist at all?
[11:15] <Warbo> LjL: I know "sudo -s -H" lets you become root, and that is what I use for prolonged super-user access
[11:15] <jenda> blacktears: try chmod + x limewirelinux.bin; limewirelinux.bin
[11:15] <dura> fglrx is the name or ATi's driver relase.
[11:15] <LjL> swaj: i just explained to dura why it is. "sudo" is a command that changes your privileges. "su" is also a command that changes your privileges. using both is redundant, since sudo alone is perfectly sufficient.
[11:15] <mutzenbacher> oh
[11:15] <mutzenbacher> thangs
[11:16] <Snurf> Where can I download Intel audio drivers for Ubuntu and how do I install them?!
[11:16] <compengi> Cyorxamp, you want winamp?
[11:16] <swaj> LjL, it's just 2 different ways to accomplish the same thing
[11:16] <Timas> hrm, anyone here know of anyone else thats having trouble with the newer kernels not finding the root drive?
[11:16] <Cyorxamp> compengi, what? no!
[11:16] <Warbo> Tom7e: There are three. "ati" is a 2D-only free driver for all ATI ards, "radeon" is 3D for older cards (about Radeon 9200 and less) and "fglrx" is non-free and gives 3D for cards higher than radeon 9200
[11:16] <compengi> Snurf, from intel website
[11:16] <Snurf> For ubuntu?
[11:16] <compengi> Snurf, www.intel.com
[11:16] <LjL> Warbo: "-s" sets you as the superuser, and "-H" moves you to the superuser's home. i think with "-i" you will gain the same effect with less typing.
[11:16] <Cyorxamp> compengi - WIMP - Windows, Icons, Mouse and Pointer
[11:16] <kalosaurusrex> dura: just run sudo passwd root then, su
[11:16] <LjL> swaj: one of which is redundant, yes.
[11:16] <dura> Are the ATi drivers available for AMD64 on Ubuntu yet?
[11:16] <jory_> AJR1: no, you can't. You have to boot ubuntu 6.06 cd and then launch the install icon on ubuntu desktop.
[11:17] <compengi> Snurf, you will download drivers for linux
[11:17] <AJR1> jory_ i did that and i chose the partition and everything and clicked install ... and nothing happened
[11:17] <Warbo> LjL: sudo can't become any user can it, only root? (if I want to sort out a dodgy config for a user then "sudo su username" lets me become that user without having to log in and use the dodgy config)
[11:17] <dura> kalosaurusrex, Yeah I did that...
[11:17] <dura> Figured that out like 2 years ago
[11:17] <Tom7e> thanks Warbo
[11:17] <jory_> Warbo: fglrx gave my mobility radeon 9000 64mb ddr pretty much 3d acceleration, running Xgl quite alright on my laptop now.
[11:17] <Flannel> Warbo: it can.  sudo -u [user]
[11:17] <compengi> AJR1, are you working on live cd?
[11:17] <Jimmey> I'm having problems with my sound - It worked perfectly before, but all of a sudden, it's jut cut out - And I can't get any sound, from anywhere. I've just tried out a liveCD, and that works fine.
[11:17] <AJR1> compengi certainly am 6.06
[11:18] <Timas> okey, no new info on my problem, I'll try again tomorrow :) Thanks people!
[11:18] <dura> Jimmey, Did you check the mixer settings?
[11:18] <Warbo> Flannel: Thanks, I didn't know that
[11:18] <Snurf> How do I find out what kind of Speakers I have?!
[11:18] <swaj> dura, you know how to stop su/sudo from asking for a password right?  just "sudo visudo" and then change the last line in the file to "%admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL"
[11:18] <Jimmey> dura, I don't know how to do that.
[11:18] <blacktears> kpackage saves the day again
[11:18] <SixDays> is it ok to drop a question?