[04:19] <Aeroraptor> MultiFinder17, BUT AH LOVES MAH PORNS
[04:19] <screamer> could someone help me with wireless issue?
[04:19] <Aeroraptor> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> !ops | Aeroraptor
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> bye
[04:19] <Mr_Fixit> or pcimi cards?
[04:19] <MultiFinder17> Aeroraptor: YOUR FACE
[04:19] <Aeroraptor> UR PHAIC LOLZ
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> MultiFinder17: don't feed the trolls
[04:20] <Jab> Has anyone had experience installing linux as guest OS with VMware Workstation>
[04:20] <MultiFinder17> Daisuke_Ido: But they suck.
[04:20]  * MultiFinder17 kicks Aeroraptor in the nads
[04:20] <dmwit> Daisuke_Ido: Calm down, it's just a joke; there was no porn at the other end of that link.
[04:20]  * screamer needs help with wireless
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> MultiFinder17: you're just as bad as he is.
[04:20] <Aeroraptor> yeah, we're all friends on skype kinda messing around
[04:20] <Aeroraptor> "oops"
[04:20] <Aeroraptor> get over it
[04:20] <nehogo> also needs help with wireless
[04:20] <Aeroraptor> it was 4 lines
[04:20] <FloodBot1> Aeroraptor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, this is a support channel
[04:20]  * MultiFinder17 whistles
[04:20] <MultiFinder17> LOL
[04:20]  * MultiFinder17 pats Aeroraptor on the shoulder
[04:20] <dmwit> screamer: You'll get a lot more help if you say instead what you have done, with precise remarks about what went wrong.
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want to mess around - go somewhere else.
[04:20] <Aeroraptor> yeah, well, jesus died. so. sorry.
[04:21] <MultiFinder17> HEY wthww_!
[04:21] <Pici> !guidelines | Aeroraptor MultiFinder17
[04:22] <nehogo> T_T I cannot connect to my wireless internet, either I don't know how to search for wireless hotspots with ubuntu or I for some reason am not able to
[04:22] <Rakeer> he needed a ban.
[04:22] <Rakeer> I read up :P
[04:22] <Mr_Fixit> so anyone??? i need a new wifi card... which is easier to install in ubuntu from a notebook??
[04:22] <LSD|Ninja> Mr_Fixit: Atheros
[04:22] <screamer> I have set up my wireless card WPC54G and i have a linksys router.. it shows this router in my wireless networks but i cannot seem to connect
[04:22] <Mr_Fixit> but mini pci, usb or pcmi?
[04:22] <dmwit> nehogo: Is your wireless card listed in the interfaces in the Network Manager?
[04:22] <LSD|Ninja> Mr_Fixit: Or, if your notebook takes Mini PCIe cards, Intel
[04:23] <dmwit> screamer: "Can't connect" means you can connect to the router but not the Internet, or that you can't even get on the router's network?
[04:23] <Xhtml_boys> piknet.org
[04:23] <Serberus> dmwit: Yes, but i don't find them.
[04:23] <nehogo> dmwit: I believe so, I reccently switched to wireless and when I installed the drivers it installed correclty to my knowledge, just connecting is the porblem
[04:23] <screamer> i cannot even connect to the routers network but it shows it in my wireless networks
[04:24] <dmwit> screamer: Does it give you an error message?
[04:24] <screamer> no it just keeps attempting
[04:24] <dmwit> nehogo: Please check.
[04:24] <nehogo> ok thanks I will brb
[04:24] <wthww_> Hmmm. Weird people tonight.
[04:25] <mordof> ok, i installed openssh-server on my ubuntu server, then used ssh-keygen -t rsa.   then i copied those to my windows machine, i'm trying to use the putty key generator thing to import the key.. passphrases match, i use that to generate the private key. tried to login with putty using that private key -> and it says 'Server refused our key.' and continues to ask me for a pw
[04:25] <mordof> i checked, key auth is turned on for the server
[04:25] <mordof> i don't know why it's not working, anyone able to help?
[04:25] <dmwit> screamer: How's the signal strength?  Is it a secured network?
[04:26] <screamer> dmwit: signal strength excellent and no non secured
[04:27] <wthww_> Can anyone give me their kernel config _please_?
[04:27] <IPNixon> i'm going to write an email to Conical about conspiracies in the ##ubuntu IRC channel.  you ops seriously need to get fired.
[04:27] <chetnick> guys, can somebody tell me how to change theme in xchat?
[04:27] <dmwit> screamer: Are you set in roaming mode on that interface?
[04:27] <Serberus> dmwit: Thank you very much for your atention. I don't wish bother you. Have a good night.
[04:27] <IPNixon> like seriously.  you people waaaaay overacted.
[04:27] <screamer> yes correct i am set to roaming
[04:27] <Flannel> IPNixon: We have a process for complaints.  The IRC council, and then the Community council.  If you feel the need to, please take your complaints there.
[04:28] <dmwit> screamer: Can you try setting it to manual and putting in the ESSID of the router?
[04:28] <IPNixon> NAZIOPZ
[04:28] <dmwit> Serberus: eh?
[04:28] <wthww_> Intense.
[04:28] <Flannel> IPNixon: Please stop, take offtopic chatter elsewhere.
[04:28] <screamer> ok i will try be right back
[04:28] <IPNixon> this isn't offtopic, they're in here
[04:28] <IPNixon> that makes it ontopic
[04:29] <dmwit> Flannel: thanks for keeping it clean in here
[04:29] <bubaphex> looking for a program that will back up my www files and db's then ftp up to another server automatically , any one know of any ?
[04:29] <dmwit> rsync is a tried and true
[04:29] <dmwit> cron is nice, too
[04:29] <mordof> bubaphex: bash scripts! :D lol
[04:30] <jgedeon> bubaphex, look at backuppc or one of the others.
[04:30] <Flannel> dmwit: I appreciate a clean #ubuntu as much as you do; I'm only being selfish ;)
[04:30] <tsudot> how do i open .uif compressed files in ubuntu? archive manager doesn't work
[04:30] <mordof> anyone know where openssh server keeps it's logs?
[04:30] <mordof> haven't a bit of an issue connecting with keys
[04:30] <bubaphex> thanks jgedeon
[04:32] <dmwit> mordof: A quick glance through the output of "locate ssh" suggests it may not keep logs.  But that doesn't sound right.
[04:33] <wthww_> can someone u[load their /kernel config from /boot ?
[04:33] <dmwit> wthww_: Have you got a specific file?
[04:33] <Pici> mordof: check /var/log/auth.log
[04:34] <screamer> dmwit: that didnt work it still does not let me connect
[04:34] <wthww_> dmwit: I what /boot/config-<latest kenrel version>
[04:34] <qhex16> i am getting kernel hangs on resume from S3 suspend; how can I troubleshoot this?
[04:34] <dmwit> wthww_: 2.6.22-15 recent enough?
[04:34] <wthww_> dmwit: Sure :)
[04:35] <dmwit> (Incidentally, didn't that aeroptor fellow recently post one?)
[04:35] <mordof> Pici: it's in there... em.. also with other things, so i don't really know what i'm looking for - it doesn't seem to show that it's refusing the key
[04:35] <dmwit> screamer: Not sure what it might be.
[04:35] <dmwit> screamer: Does "iwconfig" look sane?
[04:35] <Aeroraptor> Hey Flannel, what would you do for a klondike bar?
[04:35] <Aeroraptor> I would do *anything* ...
[04:36] <Finnish> Will modules for 2.6.24-21-kernel ever come when it comes to virtualbox?
[04:36] <Flannel> Aeroraptor: Please take non-support related conversations to another channel.
[04:36] <mordof> lol
[04:36] <dmwit> wthww_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/42589/
[04:36] <IPNixon> hmm, i feel like a klondike bar right now
[04:36] <wthww_> danke
[04:36] <Aeroraptor> frozen desserts don't count as ubuntu support topics?!?!?!?!?
[04:36] <MultiFinder17> But *I* want a klondike bar.
[04:36] <Aeroraptor> god.
[04:37] <dmwit> wthww_: I hope I'm secure, or at least that that file doesn't show my insecurities. =)
[04:37]  * dmwit trusts his NAT translation to keep him safe
[04:37] <mordof> hmmm..   *wonders how he could make the two fit together*  hmmm....    *drops a klondike bar into his server's case* heelp! lol. ok i'm done
[04:37] <Aeroraptor> :D
[04:37]  * Aeroraptor highfives mordof
[04:37] <IPNixon> !
[04:37] <MultiFinder17> !?!?!?!!?
[04:38] <MultiFinder17> OMFG
[04:38] <mordof> so there's no mention of a refused key in this auth.log..  it's showing the accepted passwords, opened sessions, etc though
[04:41] <ray__> yooooooooooooooooooo
[04:41] <boo> @find britney spears
[04:41] <ray__> any one from fl
[04:42] <Flannel> ray__: Try #ubuntu-us-fl, or #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support-only channel
[04:42]  * IPNixon eats klondike bar
[04:42]  * Aeroraptor takes ipnixon's dropped klondike bar and eats it
[04:42]  * MultiFinder17 battles Aeroraptor for it
[04:44] <vfff> hi my imac G4 wont boot from the CD, ive tried holding C, Alt, everything. holding down C there is just a delay in the gray screen, then the mac shows up, and the OS X boots
[04:44] <vfff> i am using Xubuntu 6
[04:45] <vfff> i made the CD exactly the way that the ubuntu website explains to using disk utility
[04:45] <vfff> and i am at a loss
[04:45] <bluefoxx> err, i just lost my title bars
[04:46] <mordof> aha!! i got it :D
[04:46] <mordof> i forgot to add the key to authorized_keys, lol
[04:46] <bluefoxx> rebooted after updates and now they're gone.[as if windows eating my data partition when i go to back it up wasnt enough]
[04:46] <dmwit> bluefoxx: compiz?
[04:46] <bluefoxx> dmwit: yes. fresh install
[04:46] <ismael_> i have kind of the same problem like vfff. but my problem is that the disk doesnt wanna boot after the menu screen. it just tells me something like "O/O Cant Recognize Boot" or something like that
[04:46] <dmwit> bluefoxx: Look for the window decorations extension.
[04:47] <bluefoxx> dmwit: kk, wait
[04:47] <screamer> bluefoxx: what speed you write at?
[04:47] <woli> has anybody achieved to read hotmail from thunderbird?
[04:47] <bluefoxx> screamer: huh?
[04:47] <Flannel> ismael_: Try the penultimate option, check CD for defects or verify the integrity
[04:48] <Flannel> woli: You have to use a HTML scraper (unless you have an old, old hotmail account, or pay extra).  There are a few in the repos.
[04:48] <bluefoxx> any reason that i keep finding myexit, notification area and clock on the taskbar all shuffled around too?
[04:48] <ismael_> flannel: i did try to check that, but it gave me that error thing. it says "I/O Disk Error" or so
[04:48] <cotton> anyone could help me with a little problem here? I have ubuntu server running...and I want to connect to it with navicat from windows clients...but i get connection refused...I did an iptables -F but no luck, so i spose is not a ports problem...anyone have an idea? thanks.
[04:48] <woli> Flannel, i use webmail + hotmail extensions
[04:48] <dmwit> bluefoxx: Do you keep changing your screen resolution?
[04:48] <screamer> My router is giving me an IPv6 address... can someone help me here?
[04:49] <woli> but i get the "Could not connect to server localhost: the connection was refused"
[04:49] <Flannel> ismael_: That's a bad burn then.  Verify the md5 of your iso, and then burn again, at the slowest speed you can
[04:49] <bluefoxx> dmwit: no. keeping it at 1152x864@75[since it wont let me do 1280x960@72 without hacking xorg.conf]
[04:49] <bluefoxx> dmwit: the window decorations extension is on
[04:50] <Flannel> vfff: How did you burn the CD?  Once you have a booted OS, if you look at the CD, do you see a single file? or a number of them>
[04:50] <vfff> i verfied my burn and it still wont boot. but mac os X reads from the disc fine :(
[04:50] <screamer> anyone know how to change my router from giving me an IPv6 address???
[04:50] <gaintsura> hey all, does anyone know if conky has a multiple rss feed ability?
[04:51] <bluefoxx> dmwit: but i still have no borders/title bars
[04:51] <Flannel> vfff: ah.  Ok, its not a CD issue then.  I believe you should hold 'c' or command-c to boot to a CD
[04:51] <vfff> Flannel: i am doing that
[04:51] <vfff> both of those
[04:51] <shinbo> is nehogo
[04:51] <vfff> vfff: it does nothing.
[04:51] <Debolaz> How can I prevent a certain module, snd_usb_audio, from loading?
[04:51] <woli> change its name
[04:52] <woli> lol don't
[04:52] <dmwit> Debolaz: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-*
[04:52] <gaintsura> I thought you were supposed to blacklist it...
[04:52] <gaintsura> l,ol
[04:52] <Flannel> vfff: It could be a hardware issue, some websites seem to indicate that it may be faulty RAM, although I'm out of ideas at the moment.
[04:52] <shinbo> dmwit: I'm nehogo on a different pc already connected, wireless is working now just need to find wepkey
[04:52] <vfff> well, Flannel, actually that is not true. there is a delay in the boot to OS X
[04:52] <screamer> anyone know how to change my router from giving me an IPv6 address???
[04:52] <ismael_> flannel: I'll do that. Thanks. if I need any more help, I'll come back.
[04:52] <dmwit> bluefoxx: Not sure, then.  What's the most recent thing you changed?
[04:53] <vfff> Flannel: also, when i hold down option during boot, only OS X is an option to boot into, there is no CD
[04:53] <dmwit> shinbo: Well, I certainly can't help you there.  Either you know the key or you don't.
[04:53] <bluefoxx> dmwit: i dont recall...installed this afternoon and upraded/customised with a bunch of packages i had stored on my array since its too slow to download
[04:54] <Debolaz> dmwit: Thank you, trying.
[04:54] <bluefoxx> dmwit: brb, im praying to the pixels that its just some weird fluke and am restarting x
[04:55] <screamer> My router is giving me an IPv6 address... can someone help me here?
[04:55] <bluefoxx> dmwit: didnt work...
[04:56] <shinbo> dmwit: I know I just thought I would come back here really quick to thank you for your help
[04:56] <dmwit> shinbo: oh, heh
[04:56] <bluefoxx> dmwit: ok, i disabled compiz and they come back
[04:56] <dmwit> bluefoxx: It used to be necessary to install "emerald", the window decorator.  Try looking for that, but my information might be two years out of date.
[04:56] <raghav> Hi every one hos it going?
[04:56] <DOT3CH> can someone help me set AWN to autostart when my comp boots
[04:57] <dmwit> bluefoxx: If you can't find emerald, take a look around the settings in the window decoration extension, try a few different themes... just generally poke around.
[04:57] <bluefoxx> dmwit: but there shouldnt be any reason i cant use compiz...my card is good enough[it costed someone enough]
[04:57] <linda> help me
[04:57] <dmwit> DOT3CH: Read up on the boot system.  Key words for Google: sysvinit, init.d
[04:58] <dmwit> linda: You'll have to be much more specific.
[04:58] <dmwit> DOT3CH: Never mind, disregard my last comment.
[04:59] <dmwit> DOT3CH: I assume you mean "when you log in" rather than "when the computer boots," after having seen what AWN is. =)
[04:59] <dmwit> DOT3CH: Check out the "Sessions" dialog in the Settings menu.
[04:59] <c0rrupt0r> hello
[04:59] <Flynsarmy> Is there a keybaord shortcut in nautilus to rename a file? Rather than right click - rename
[04:59] <dmwit> Flynsarmy: F2
[04:59] <DOT3CH> dmwit: yea, after i log and get to my desktop, id like Awn to already be open instead of having to start it for each session
[04:59] <Flynsarmy> dmwit, Thanks
[04:59] <alpha232> is it possible to downgrad to an LTS?
[05:00] <dmwit> DOT3CH: Muck with your Sessions, then.
[05:01] <DOT3CH> do you know off hand what command launches awn
[05:01] <c0rrupt0r> im using ubuntu hardy and my borders of all my apps are missing and no minimize or maximize or close buttons are showing any ideas would be much appriciated thanks
[05:01] <dmwit> alpha232: I don't think there's an easy way, sorry. =/
[05:01] <Flannel> alpha232: Downgrading isn't supported, no.
[05:01] <wers> on Ubuntu, I can't go online while connected to my netgear wifi router. any idea?
[05:01] <dmwit> Man, is there an FAQ or something?
[05:01] <dmwit> Seems like about one person per 15 minutes is asking about compiz borders.
[05:01] <Flannel> DOT3CH: There is a checkbox with awn to start it when you start I believe.
[05:02] <wers> how do I know what kind of password my router has? I know the password but I dont  know if its WEP, ascii or whatever
[05:02] <alpha232> Flannel: bgger ok 7-11 and then i deal with this crp
[05:02] <Flannel> wers: You'd have to go to your routers config and look
[05:02] <c0rrupt0r> dmwit: is that the problem compiz is the problem for my borders?
[05:02] <dmwit> c0rrupt0r: Turn on window decorations in compiz.
[05:02] <wers> Flannel: the IP on the url?
[05:03] <c0rrupt0r> ok surely will try thank you dmwit:
[05:03] <Flannel> wers: its whatever your gateway is.  usually <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:05] <DOT3CH> Flannel: i couldnt find a checkbox in the awn preferences to do that, but i was thinking the same thing
[05:05] <screamer> My router is giving me an IPv6 address... can someone help me here?
[05:07] <madcreation> I made shares in samba to share with my windows pc's and i can see them but cant write to them or copy anything from them so my question is how and where do I set up permissions to allow access for writing
[05:07] <LSD|Ninja> madcreation: it depends how you created them
[05:08] <DOT3CH> nvm i got it
[05:08] <madcreation> i added them in the smb.conf file
[05:08] <ovoskeuiks_> screamer your IPv6 address is generated by default it's not coming from your router
[05:08] <LSD|Ninja> madcreation: then that's where you set the perms
[05:09] <LSD|Ninja> madcreation: read up on smb.conf share definitions, it should all be there. Sucks it has to be this way but that's Linux for you
[05:09] <screamer> ovoskeuiks: i am having wireless problems..  i can connect to my router but cannot get internet.. there is no send / recieve
[05:10] <Omoikane_> I am trying to output video to my LDC tv via a HDMI cable in hardy and the only thing I'm getting on the TV is a black screen. It is getting some thing as the TV tells me if it has a signal or not.
[05:10] <madcreation> lsd\ninja: yeah tried reading up on it but still dont see where or what to add in the file
[05:11] <dmwit> Omoikane_: Does xrandr recognize the extra output?
[05:11] <cotton> how do i monitor whats happening in my network thru console? is something with "tail" i remember.....anyone know?
[05:11] <ovoskeuiks_> screamer you're not getting an IP via DHCP by the sound of it. you could try setting your IP manually
[05:11] <Omoikane_> dmwit not sure. What is xrandr?
[05:11] <screamer> ovoskeuiks: can you help me do that
[05:12] <asho79> Omoikane: did you restart your computer with your tv plugged in?
[05:12] <dmwit> Omoikane_: I'm not sure where Gnome's GUI for xrandr is.  So try typing "xrandr" at the command prompt.
[05:13] <Dave88LX> With an AMD Turion 64 processor in my laptop, with 1GB of ram, should I be running the 32-bit or 64-bit version?
[05:13] <Dave88LX> I'm hearing mixed things.
[05:13] <dmwit> asho79: He shouldn't need to restart the computer, right?  Only X.
[05:13] <asho79> ok
[05:13] <LSD|Ninja> Dave88LX: with only 1GB 64 bit probably isn't worth it
[05:14] <asho79> dmwit: with svideo on my comp I have to
[05:14] <Dave88LX> OK, so the 64-bit isn't a "requirement" then, I can hop along just fine with 32-bit?
[05:14] <dmwit> asho79: Have you ever tried just restarting X?
[05:14] <Omoikane_> dmwit http://pastebin.com/m2cc21b0e
[05:14] <LSD|Ninja> madcreation: you can set up what accounts have what level of access as well as set the create mask on files/dirs within the share definition block
[05:14] <asho79> dmwit: no, thanks for the info
[05:15] <tjb> hello everyone. I need some advice about proper location to place a web app (can't use /var/www).  <somewhere>/wwwapps/<appname>/www would be the apache doc  root not /var/www, but where should <somewhere> be? i don't want to move the app once it is in use. suggestions?
[05:15] <Flannel> tjb: Why can't you use /var/www?
[05:15] <Omoikane_> dmwit that is the output for zrandr
[05:15] <LSD|Ninja> Dave88LX: 64 bit tends to be more trouble than it's worth unless you have specific reasons for needing it
[05:15] <dmwit> Omoikane_: Well, that looks pretty good.
[05:15] <kaudio> Baraka Obama President !!!
[05:15] <Flannel> kaudio: please don't do that here.  This is a support channel.
[05:16] <Omoikane_> dmwit why would it just show a black screen?
[05:16] <madcreation> lsd\ninja: ok thanks alot
[05:16] <sjea> any on e there
[05:16] <sjea> whoops hi all
[05:16] <Dave88LX> Thanks LSD|Ninja, that's what I was looking for
[05:16] <Dave88LX> I have no specific reason to run 64, I just wasn't sure what specifically I needed
[05:17] <MolePrince> Hello.  I just installed xserver-xgl on my desktop and now when X boots after gdm I just got a blank white screen.  xorg log shows nothing obvious amiss.
[05:17] <dmwit> Omoikane_: I don't know.  Just for fun, do try restarting X.  (There's nicer ways to do this test, but I don't understand them. =)
[05:17] <dmwit> Omoikane_: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, after you've closed all your programs.
[05:17] <Omoikane_> dmwit so just xserver --replace?
[05:17] <Dave88LX> Once booted, is there anything special I need to do to get my wireless card working?  I couldn't seem to get it to work before.
[05:18] <sjea> could someone link me a simple to understand site to connect my printer to the network so family can use my printer
[05:18] <LSD|Ninja> Dave88LX: what wireless chip? Broadcom?
[05:18] <sjea> i've been googleing for a bit now
[05:18] <SebNaitsabes> !printer
[05:18] <SebNaitsabes> !samba
[05:18] <tjb> Flannel: I can't 'cause the web app dir structure contains a www folder to be served. is using a different dir than /var/www considered bad practice?
[05:18] <Dave88LX> Ninja: yeah it's a Broadcom
[05:18] <sjea> thank you cups hase come up a few times i better do some more reading
[05:18] <bluefoxx> dmwit: emerald does nothing for me
[05:19] <Dave88LX> Device Manager doesn't tell me too much about it
[05:19] <Omoikane__> dmwit it's the same.
[05:19] <Dave88LX> "Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter"
[05:19] <ikrakid> MARIA
[05:19] <dmwit> Omoikane__: urk
[05:19] <Flannel> tjb: What?  the app itself is not able to handle it?  No, not really.  You could put it a number of places, depending on what it was.
[05:19] <tjb> Flannel: <somewhere>/wwwapps/<appname>/ would contain many directories. it would be nice to keep them all together, for version control reasons.
[05:19] <dmwit> bluefoxx: Can you double-check that the window decoration extension is on and running correctly?
[05:19] <Omoikane__> dmwit I was able to get it to work with a vga.
[05:20] <rmd6502> dave88lx - what does 'lspci' say?
[05:20] <Omoikane__> but I need that cable for other work.
[05:20] <LSD|Ninja> Dave88LX: Broadcom can be tricky because it needs firmware that Ubuntu can't distribute. Make sure you have a wired connection handy and then check the hardware drivers (System -> Admin) panel and see if it's there otherwise install b4x-fwcutter and then check again, rebooting in between if needed
[05:20] <Dave88LX> rmd6502: I have not done 'lspci' yet
[05:20] <cotton> is it REALLY neccesary to install ubuntu server for a simple webserver? or is it overkill?
[05:21] <dmwit> Omoikane__: VGA cables are cheap.
[05:21] <tjb> would /var/wwwapps/<appname>/www work do you think? would it cause issues later? (upgrades etc). i don't want to break a live application once it's running.
[05:21] <dmwit> cotton: Definitely not.
[05:21] <cotton> I think it depends on the box, if the box can take the GUI then you can install ubuntu regular
[05:21] <Dave88LX> Ninja:  I can plug straight into the router if need be.  I will install the 32-bit version back on here, and jump onto my other machine
[05:21] <cotton> right?
[05:21] <HymnToLife> cotton: what would be overkill is to install a standard Ubuntu
[05:21] <bluefoxx> dmwit: it is on but i dont know if its 'running correctly'. how should it look[other than having the bloody borders]. also, my transparency is screwed up too, terminals i could see under before now are all-white, or if compiz is off then show the section of my desktop background its over
[05:21] <Flannel> cotton: no, its not.  You can run servers on 'desktop' boxes just fine.  Linux makes no differentiation ebtween 'server' and 'desktop.
[05:21] <Omoikane__> dmwit yeah but was just trying to get it to work now. And now it's driving me mad. I mean it should work.
[05:21] <Omoikane__> dmwit it's becoming my white wale.
[05:22] <Omoikane__> dmwit whale*
[05:22] <Dave88LX> I also will have to figure out how to "install" programs once in Ubunto
[05:22] <Dave88LX> Ubuntu*
[05:22] <Dave88LX> Is it as easy as in Windows?
[05:22] <Flannel> tjb: Is this going to have static files? or what?  Is the app separate from its data?
[05:22] <dmwit> Omoikane__: My connection just dropped, could you repeat whatever you just said?
[05:22] <HymnToLife> Dave88LX: no, it's easier ;)
[05:22] <Flannel> Dave88LX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto  its easier
[05:22] <HymnToLife> (well, on most cases)
[05:22] <Dave88LX> Excellent :)
[05:22] <cotton> man, its just..i have to tell you thr thru...I installed ubuntu regular, and everything was working fine...but man....i tried to import a mysql db...a big one...and it throw me an error.....then i tried on a server installation...and I imported it thru console....and it did it
[05:22] <Omoikane__> dmwit yeah but was just trying to get it to work now. And now it's driving me mad. I mean it should work.
[05:22] <cotton> no problem
[05:22] <cotton> and fast
[05:22] <cotton> i was amazed
[05:22] <cotton> seriously
[05:22] <FloodBot1> cotton: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:22] <Omoikane__> dmwit it's becoming my white whale.
[05:22] <cotton> im sorry
[05:23] <cotton> and webmin is the best application ever
[05:23] <cotton> i LOVE IT
[05:23] <bluefoxx> dmwit: it is on but i dont know if its 'running correctly'. how should it look[other than having the bloody borders]. also, my transparency is screwed up too, terminals i could see under before now are all-white, or if compiz is off then show the section of my desktop background its over
[05:23] <Dave88LX> Have to go install IRC on the wife's laptop
[05:23] <cotton> Just for the reason that I can upload a file to the server and THEN unzip it...and delete it..all in one single click...that cracks me up
[05:23] <cotton> lol
[05:24] <tjb> Flannel: <appname>/www will contain static files (except for <appname>/www/api/  It gets parsed similar to cakephp or cherrypy.) the other dirs and files in <appname>/www/ are static
[05:24] <dmwit> Omoikane__, bluefoxx: I realize you have unresolved problems, but it's bedtime.  Sorry...  I wish you luck.
[05:25] <Flannel> tjb: Honestly, you can put it wherever you want.  /usr/local/ might be a good place, but if its generating arbitrray data (and might get big, etc) /var/ is the place for it.
[05:25] <josemiguel> wenasss
[05:25] <Omoikane__> dmwit thanks for the help.
[05:25] <josemiguel> anyone speak spanish???
[05:25] <HymnToLife> !es | josemiguel
[05:25] <josemiguel> in the channel spanish ...no help
[05:26] <bluefoxx> dmwit: >. >well, thanks anyways i suppose...
[05:26] <bluefoxx> so does anyone else know why i cant have compiz and window borders/transparency?
[05:27] <Omoikane__> can ubuntu even output video via HDMI?
[05:27] <tjb> flannel: maybe /var/wwwapps/appanme/www should be the served doc root then.  if that location doesn't cause concerns i'll use that.
[05:27] <Billy_Shears> try in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, section screen, Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[05:27] <Flannel> tjb: that'll be good enough, sure.
[05:28] <tjb> Flannel: thanks. :-)
[05:28] <Dave88LX^> OK up and running on the other machine.  I'll install 32-bit on the Acer and see what happens.
[05:29] <bluefoxx> Billy_Shears: who, me?
[05:29] <josemiguel> no se me ven los paneles de gnome!!!
[05:29] <Odd-rationale> !es | josemiguel
[05:30] <sjea> whoot it doing something
[05:30] <Billy_Shears> bluefoxx: yes
[05:30] <bluefoxx> ok, wait
[05:30] <sjea> lol i've been on windows all my life
[05:31] <sjea> 36 yrs old and im just trying Linux for the first time
[05:31] <bluefoxx> Billy_Shears: its allready set to true
[05:31] <Debolaz> I'm going to have to install Windows XP on my harddrive. I have the space for it, but I guess it will overwrite ubuntu's boot loader. What is the procedure for restoring it afterwards?
[05:32] <sjea> well from what i under stand you put xp on first then other os
[05:32] <Billy_Shears> bluefoxx: okay, i have no other idea
[05:32] <HymnToLife> !grub | Debolaz
[05:32] <Debolaz> sjea: That's not an option.
[05:32] <Debolaz> HymnToLife: Thank you.
[05:32] <ovoskeuiks_> screamer sorry ran away you still there
[05:33] <damo> yo
[05:33] <bluefoxx> >. >
[05:33] <sjea> understand again i realy know xp /vista /98 and 2000 so sad
[05:33] <bluefoxx> so does anyone else know why i cant have compiz and window borders/transparency?
[05:33] <ganesh> how do i open .rar files? it says archieve type not supported?
[05:33] <HymnToLife> !rar | ganesh
[05:33] <sjea> rar.com
[05:34] <HymnToLife> bluefoxx: do you have Compiz installed? What does it do when you try to starti it?
[05:34] <damo> can i buy a ip address from optus?
[05:34] <sjea> lol i be back have to restart atleast that what it tell me
[05:34] <HymnToLife> what's optus?
[05:37] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: yes, compiz is installed, but starting it kills window decorations and transparecny
[05:37] <HymnToLife> any error message?
[05:38] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: nope
[05:38] <sjea> i just love how smooth it run so far
[05:38] <vikku> hi all
[05:38] <HymnToLife> !hi | vikku
[05:38] <vikku> i have a DSL image in /opt ... and when i ask to do this `qemu -boot c /dev/hdc/ /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso` , i get
[05:38] <vikku> Boot from hard diks 0 failed
[05:39] <HymnToLife> bluefoxx: can you still drag the windows by holding Alt ?
[05:39] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: yes
[05:39] <eligos> hello
[05:39] <bluefoxx> and use alt<space>+<whichever> to command them as well
[05:40] <HymnToLife> bluefoxx: okay, so Compiz didn't crash, try running the window decorator manually
[05:40] <cotton> whats the command to see the memory im consuming?
[05:40] <eligos> anyone know if ubuntu has a desktop app similar to rocket dock or stardock like windows?
[05:40] <HymnToLife> something like   gtk-window-decorator --replace
[05:40] <HymnToLife> cotton: free
[05:40] <cotton> eligos it does have, i jst dont remember the name
[05:40] <Dave88LX^> Pulling it up for the first time
[05:40] <vikku> i have a DSL image in /opt ... and when i ask to do this `qemu -boot c /dev/hdc/ /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso` , i get  boot from hard disk failed
[05:40] <Dave88LX^> Going to have to go through quite a few configs first
[05:40] <vikku> any insight?
[05:40] <cotton> HymnToLife: and the process running? thanks.
[05:41] <eligos> cotton, that's what I'm trying to find out also
[05:41] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: how do i do that?
[05:41] <HymnToLife> bluefoxx: from a terminal, or Alt+F2
[05:41] <HymnToLife> cotton: ps
[05:41] <cotton> in the forums eligos
[05:41] <cotton> i found it there
[05:42] <cotton> thanks man
[05:42] <cotton> ps -aux
[05:42] <cotton> i have a bad memory
[05:42] <HymnToLife> the dash is not required ;) that makes one less keystroke
[05:43] <vikku> i have a DSL image in /opt ... and when i ask to do this `qemu -boot c /dev/hdc/ /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso` , i get  boot from hard disk failed
[05:43] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: hasnt done anything yet
[05:43] <bluefoxx> killit?
[05:43] <orgthingy> hi
[05:43] <HymnToLife> guess so
[05:43] <orgthingy> how can i reinstall gnome-applets?
[05:43] <HymnToLife> It should have, though
[05:43] <orgthingy> what should i type in terminal?
[05:43] <MellowDude> hi all sup
[05:43] <HymnToLife> do you have fusion-icon installed ?
[05:44] <MellowDude> oct. is when the new ubuntu version comes out right
[05:44] <kindofabuzz> 8.10
[05:44] <MellowDude> is there any beta of it out righ now
[05:44] <kindofabuzz> alphas
[05:44] <HymnToLife> it's still in Alpha AFAIK
[05:44] <MellowDude> sweet how i get it
[05:44] <HymnToLife> but yes, you can use it
[05:44] <kindofabuzz> alpha 4
[05:44] <Cpudan80> MellowDude: check #ubuntu+1 (yes, it is alpha now)
[05:45] <Dedi> my usb harddisks are very slow (8-12mb/s), what could cause that?
[05:45] <kindofabuzz> not usb 2?
[05:45] <eligos> does any one know how can I install themes for Gnome desktop?
[05:46] <dfeuer> Has anyone figured out why some Java applets that worked with icedtea-gcjwebplugin under Firefox 3.0 don't work under 3.0.1?
[05:46] <MellowDude> there is a website for gnome themes i for get the name of it
[05:46] <Odd-rationale> !changethemes-gnome | eligos
[05:46] <Odd-rationale> !changethemes
[05:47] <Odd-rationale> eligos: see message from ubottu above
[05:47] <Dedi> kindofabuzz: they are not that old, 500GB, so i think they are usb2
[05:47] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: me?
[05:48] <HymnToLife> bluefoxx: what "me"?
[05:48] <kindofabuzz> Dedi, depends on your system, not the usb device.  how old is your system/
[05:48] <rmd6502> !rtl8185
[05:48] <bluefoxx> (21:43:52) HymnToLife: do you have fusion-icon installed ?
[05:48] <HymnToLife> yes
[05:49] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: im not sure
[05:49] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: that would be the compiz-fusion splash right?
[05:49] <Dedi> kindofabuzz: dualcore amd, one of these 939 sockets, so that should not be the problem. internal harddisks copy up to 40mb/s
[05:49] <kindofabuzz> yeah you probably have usb 2.0
[05:50] <HymnToLife> bluefoxx: no, fusion-icon is this: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/compiz_fusion_icon.png?w=&h=&cache=cache
[05:50] <HymnToLife> it makes starting compiz (and starting it _properly_) much less of a hassle
[05:50] <bluefoxx> in that case, i dont
[05:50] <tvn2> is there any alarm app ?    so my computer can wake me up in the morning ?
[05:50] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: how can i get it?
[05:50] <HymnToLife> usual place
[05:50] <HymnToLife> (synaptic, or apt-get)
[05:51] <HymnToLife> package is fusion-icon
[05:51] <bluefoxx> also, my main hard disk seems to be seeking a lot. when the system is idle
[05:51] <keppi_> tvn2:  cron
[05:52] <bluefoxx> im getting about 70% in use with a constant on-off blinking of the act indicator when theres next to nothing that should be accessing it. anyone know of that?
[05:52] <sjea> !printer
[05:52] <keppi_> !crontab | tvn2
[05:52] <m_newton> Hello, What software do I need to get my webcam to work in ubuuntu h8.04.1
[05:52] <HymnToLife> bluefoxx: maybe it's the journaled data getting written
[05:52] <bofh80> !tracker | bluefoxx
[05:53] <MellowDude> turn off indexing
[05:53] <bluefoxx> ok, can i turn it off? i dont like my load times being slowed down >>
[05:54] <Miyavix3> Is there a prog to mount images (iso) onto a virtual drive, so I don't have to burn it?
[05:54] <rmd6502> bluefoxx - how much ram?
[05:54] <MellowDude> go to system administaor the service find it in there
[05:54] <rmd6502> might be swapping
[05:55] <Dave88LX> OK to get this Broadcom Wireless working, first I need to hook straight into the router via cat-5, and get an internet connection that way?
[05:55] <MellowDude> un check it in there and it turn it off on next start up
[05:55] <bluefoxx> rmd6502: 2 gigs
[05:55] <bofh80> !cheese | m_newton
[05:55] <Miyavix3> o.o
[05:55] <bofh80> m_newton, sudo apt-get install cheese
[05:56] <bofh80> m_newton, simple interface to check if it's working :)
[05:56] <rmd6502> bluefoxx hmmm probably not it then.  If you're running an old version of firefox it might be eating memory, otherwise check top
[05:56] <Miyavix3> Is there a program to mount images (iso) onto a virtual drive, so I don't have to burn it?
[05:56] <rmd6502> !top
[05:56] <m_newton> thanks bofh80 btw, got any good excuesses?
[05:56] <bluefoxx> rmd6502: im not running firefox[and its 8.04 so im using ff3 anyways]
[05:57] <MellowDude> bluefoxx the best way is to disable any service u dont need
[05:57] <Flannel> !iso | Miyavix3
[05:57] <Miyavix3> Thanks
[05:57] <nirupama> Hi all
[05:57] <bluefoxx> MellowDude: one of the first things i do on any fresh install...
[05:57] <hubar> Anyone using thunderbird?
[05:57] <Flannel> !anyone | hubar
[05:57] <Miyavix3> me
[05:57] <cotton> is there something better than webmin?
[05:58] <cotton> webmin is outregously amazing
[05:58] <hubar> Why is it that my text email don't get properly wrapped? The email I got from other email clients(mutt, alpine, evolution) are all properly wrapped.
[05:58] <powertool08> anyone know what "bad service request ssh-connection" means? error is from putty client on XP connecting to openssh server via pubkey auth
[05:59] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: ok, so if the compiz window mager is running i lose the borders...next idea?
[05:59] <Dave88LX> What was the secret to getting Broadcom Wireless working?  What package?
[05:59] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: i reinstalled all compiz related things i had in the system while i was at it btw
[06:00] <hubar> Why is it that my text email written by thunderbird don't get properly wrapped? The email I got from other email clients(mutt, alpine, evolution) are all properly wrapped.
[06:00] <nirupama> we have done translation in 18 Indian languages]
[06:00] <HymnToLife> bluefoxx: did you install fusion-icon? go see in the "Select window decorator" menu
[06:00] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: i did
[06:00] <nirupama> And now I want the ubuntu community to access these
[06:00] <HymnToLife> and what do you have?
[06:00] <nirupama> How can I proceed
[06:00] <bluefoxx> HymnToLife: thats how i found that the borders vanished when the compiz window manager was going
[06:02] <ndf> if i use 'usrmod -l oldusr newusr -d /home/newusr -m' it will rename my usr and move my homedir for me, but ubuntu hardy automatically loads gdm and not commandline login so how can i ensure i'm logged out when i run this command?
[06:02] <kindofabuzz> bluefoxx, compiz --replace
[06:02] <nirupama> any body
[06:02] <MellowDude> i wait before i get the alpha i read on it something is messed up in it right now
[06:03] <HymnToLife> nirupama: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[06:03] <MellowDude> well iam out u all
[06:03] <MellowDude> have fun be good and be safe
[06:04] <HymnToLife> MellowDude: it works fine here, but #ubuntu+1 is the place to talk about it
[06:04] <mordof> anyone able to help me? not sure how to enable the mcrypt extension for php5.. got the libmcrypt4 from repos
[06:04] <dasdajs> Hi, I've just compiled a new kernel for my ubuntu 8.04 server, but it didn't load the new kernel at boot, how do i fix this?
[06:05] <bluefoxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/42602/
[06:05] <HymnToLife> mordof: install php5-mcrypt
[06:05] <bluefoxx> kindofabuzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/42602/ <<---thats from the command
[06:06] <pmj> Gnome or something decided to crash and I was kicked back to GDM. When trying to log in, I get a window saying that the session lasted less than 10 seconds. Clicking OK takes me back to GDM. Not clicking OK sort of lets me use the desktop. No gnome-panel, many things crash, I have duplicate processes running probably connected to gnome-session in some way. Any ideas?
[06:06] <mordof> HymnToLife: ah, ty. kept trying other things with putting mcrypt first xD
[06:06] <HymnToLife> mordof: all php5 extensions are php5-<name_of_extension>
[06:07] <pmj> I already tried deleting whatever config files I could think of (.gnome2, gconf stuff). I also installed xubuntu-desktop and tried Xfce, but that didn't want to log in either.
[06:07] <mordof> ooh, k
[06:07] <HymnToLife> pmj: have you tried creating a new user and logging in with it?
[06:08] <pmj> HymnToLife: I don't even know how, but seeing as how things like Firefox now segfault and many programs can't be run at all, I thought it was a more serious problem.
[06:08] <kindofabuzz> bluefoxx, try #compiz
[06:08] <HymnToLife> pmj: hmm, yeah, it could be indeed
[06:08] <bluefoxx> so anyone know what all this -->http://paste.ubuntu.com/42602/ <-- means and how it relates or causes compiz to abbra-kedabra away all my decorations[and window transparencies]?
[06:08] <HymnToLife> but that could me harder to spot
[06:08] <bluefoxx> kindofabuzz: kk
[06:09] <pmj> HymnToLife: I'll try creating a new user when I can afford to log out. Hopefully that'll do it. Thanks.
[06:14] <orgthingy> HELP!
[06:14] <nirupama> HymnToLife, this site shows you have very less %translated
[06:14] <orgthingy> you know, like when you use some programs they go to right-side of gnome-panel ?
[06:14] <orgthingy> i accidentally removed them xD
[06:14] <Dave88L1> Well, I've done something right.  I'm now in Ubuntu, and have the internet working via cat-5
[06:14] <orgthingy> how can i get them back?
[06:14] <orgthingy> please help :'( !
[06:15] <orgthingy> anyone... ?
[06:15] <wbmj> orgthingy:sounds like you remove the notification applet
[06:15] <HymnToLife> orgthingy: you mean you removed the systray?
[06:15] <HymnToLife> should be something like right-clicking on the panel, add applet, system tray
[06:15] <orgthingy> gnome-panel is ok, but, i cant see the active programs (like xchat running, it would be in right-side of panel)
[06:15] <zatoino> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to access avi files that are on my ubuntu machine from my Mac's Front Row application?
[06:15] <pmj> systray on Ubuntu is called Notification Area.
[06:16] <wbmj> orgthingy:right click....add app
[06:16] <orgthingy> ah, it was notification area!!
[06:16] <orgthingy> nice
[06:16] <orgthingy> oh, where's nmap-applet??
[06:16] <Rat409> orgthingy: tasklist
[06:16] <orgthingy> where did it go :O ?
[06:16] <powertool08> I have an external drive and its being accessed heavily, is there a way to find out which process is doing this?
[06:17] <orgthingy> ok, now i have another problem :(
[06:17] <orgthingy> i dont know where's nmap-applet
[06:17] <wbmj> orgthingy:network applet will reappear when you log in agaain
[06:17] <nirupama> HymnToLife, are you there
[06:17] <ndf> if i use 'usrmod -l oldusr newusr -d /home/newusr -m' it will rename my usr and move my homedir for me, but ubuntu hardy automatically loads gdm and not commandline login so how can i ensure i'm logged out when i run this command?
[06:17] <Rat409> powertool08: top or ps aux?
[06:18] <powertool08> Rat409: top didn't give much help, xorg was first
[06:18] <orgthingy> wbmj : i hope so, ok
[06:18] <wbmj> ndf: ctrl+alt+f1 at login........then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:19] <ndf> wbmj: will that stop X and log me out?
[06:19] <Rat409> orgthingy: its called nm-applet afaik
[06:19] <wbmj> yes
[06:19] <ndf> ok thanks
[06:19] <wbmj> np
[06:20] <dasdajs> How do I se which processes runs in each kernels on a dual core?
[06:20] <computer> what is a good pdf editor?
[06:20] <L-Emo> www.averagejoesofficiel.skyblog.com
[06:20] <L-Emo> www.averagejoesofficiel.skyblog.com
[06:20] <FloodBot1> L-Emo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <LSD|Ninja> dasdajs: BSD top has a column for what CPU a process is on. I have no idea if GNU top offers anything like that
[06:21] <ndf> wbmj: other people are telling me that it may not log me out
[06:21] <computer> what is a good pdf editor? dont say openoffcie3 because its beta still.
[06:21] <dasdajs> LSD|Ninja i'm in console only it's on a server :S
[06:21] <L-Emo> www.averagejoesofficiel.skyblog.com and www.l3-baraki-d-msn.skyblog.com
[06:21] <L-Emo> www.averagejoesofficiel.skyblog.com and www.l3-baraki-d-msn.skyblog.com
[06:21] <L-Emo> www.averagejoesofficiel.skyblog.com and www.l3-baraki-d-msn.skyblog.com
[06:21] <FloodBot1> L-Emo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <LSD|Ninja> dasdajs: what's that got to do with anything?
[06:21] <HymnToLife> Dave88L1: top is a console program
[06:22] <dasdajs> dno, you wrote BSD, and don't know what that is, so thought it was something on x11
[06:22] <wbmj> ndf: ctrl+alt+f1 at login........then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop........will leave you at the coomandline login
[06:23] <ndf> ok thanks
[06:23] <wbmj> np
[06:23] <ndf> sorry for the doubt :P
[06:23] <sjea> !wine
[06:24] <Dave88LX> say what?
[06:24] <computer> what is a good pdf editor? dont say openoffcie3 because its beta still.
[06:26] <Dave88LX> how do I determine specifically which wireless chip I have?
[06:27] <Rat409> Dave88LX: try lspci |grep -i network
[06:27] <powertool08> computer: pdfeditor seems to win according to google
[06:28] <Dave88LX> Rat409: OK let me reboot and give that a shot.
[06:28] <powertool08> computer: or pdfedit, its under both names could be same program
[06:29] <Dave88LX> linuxwireless.org is saying to run this: sudo /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[06:29] <Rat409> pdfedit= only true linux editing app afaik
[06:29] <david> hello
[06:29] <dasdajs> how do I see timer frequency for the kernel?
[06:29] <Rat409> Dave88LX: if you have a broadcom
[06:30] <Dave88LX> yes I do have Broadcom
[06:30] <Dave88LX> I'm goingto figure out which one specifically
[06:30] <Guest52247> i noticed that when i remove the ac cable i see a little square on the screen that shows a brightess adjustment
[06:30] <Guest52247> on my keyboard i have a shortcut to do taht, but it doenst show that thing...it does for the volume. how can i change this?
[06:30] <zero-9376> i need to find information on a quirk for my soundcard where do i loo?
[06:31] <cotton> I don't know if this is ubuntu related, but I dont know where to ask for help
[06:31] <cotton> man if someone could help me out with this, i would REALLY apreciate it, is the last step i need for my server config, I configured succesfully my ubuntu server, but now im trying to acces it from outside my LAN, I have a linksys router, i disabled the firewall on the router, and yes..im able to manage it from the internet, but i want to acces the server that is within that LAN, where do i start?
[06:32] <Rat409> zero-9376: try http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[06:32] <Dave88LX> BCM4318
[06:32] <DOT3CH> anyone know of a good screen recorder app
[06:32] <IdleOne> recordmydesktop
[06:33] <DOT3CH> ok
[06:33] <zcat[1]> or istanbul
[06:33] <zero-9376> Rat409: thanks but i need some more specific info...ive been searching alsa wiki and google all afternoon
[06:33] <Rat409> dabyou need the firmware then whatever driver is
[06:33] <Rat409> zero-9376: ubuntu bug reports?
[06:34] <sjea> !printer
[06:35] <Rat409> Dave88LX: might wanna read this also  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/218763
[06:35] <l3d> ok what I am looking to do is   I have a script in nautilus to open terminal here kinda thing but I would like to use konsole instead of the normal gnometerm how would i get that done?
[06:36] <unop> l3d, did you write the script?
[06:36] <l3d> no
[06:37] <unop> l3d, ok, let's see the script then - put it up on a pastebin
[06:37] <l3d> still noob
[06:37] <mordof> anyone able to help me get some sort of smtp server, sendmail.. or something working to get mail(); to work in php? i've got sendmail installed.. can't seem to get it to actually send an email from the command line though either
[06:37] <unop> !paste | l3d
[06:37] <zhengleishan> 怎么用IRC
[06:38] <Dave88LX> Thanks Rat I will read that link too
[06:38] <Dave88LX> Holy heck I'm getting confused.
[06:38] <zhengleishan> 为什么大家都说英文
[06:38] <b414> when configing BUSID in xorg.conf, the "PCI:1:0:0" part is the first thing when u do lspci ?
[06:38] <l3d> http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/nautilus-scripts/Execute/Open%20terminal/Open_terminal_here
[06:39] <unop> b414, yes
[06:39] <didooofidooo> hi everybody i have a problem with Ubuntu 8.04. when i start to download any file from the internet, it takes the whole bandwidth and i can't even browse a website. this problem doesn't happen in windows, so anybody can help?
[06:39] <unop> !cn | zhengleishan
[06:39] <akahige> using gnome/hardy... came back from screensaver with NO mouse control or ALT-TAB functionality. would be nice to be able to close open apps, but I'm stuck. can C-A-Fx to shell, but don'tknow if that helps anything.  HELP!
[06:39] <bwananna> how do i boot without having x windows come up and just the terminal login
[06:40] <niriven> How many kernels will ubuntu keep installed? Whenever i upgrade, it keeps the older kernel packages installed.
[06:40] <DOT3CH> what happened to gnomefiles.org?
[06:40] <LSD|Ninja> niriven: it keeps them all unless youre move them
[06:40] <bwananna> when x boots it locks up the computer so i need to boot into the terminal to do troubleshooting
[06:40] <LSD|Ninja> niriven: making it automatic is a feature request though I believe
[06:40] <niriven> LSD|Ninja, Move them?
[06:41] <LSD|Ninja> niriven: remove them. a space ended up in the wrong place :P
[06:41] <didooofidooo> hi everybody i have a problem with Ubuntu 8.04. when i start to download any file from the Internet, it takes the whole bandwidth and i can't even browse a website. this problem doesn't happen in windows, so anybody can help?
[06:42] <niriven> LSD|Ninja, Ah, ok. Know of any other packages ubuntu keeps around on upgrade? The kernel images/modules acutally take up alot of space, 300 some megs for two versions.
[06:42] <Rat409> bwananna: add single to kernel line at bootime or edit /etc/inittab to 2,in ubuntu init 3 is xwindows
[06:42] <unop> l3d,  change the last line of the script to say   konsole --workdir "$dir"
[06:42] <l3d> i did
[06:42] <l3d> nothing
[06:42] <bwananna> thanks Rat409
[06:42] <l3d> try again tho
[06:43] <nate_> im trying to get mono installed but it gives me this error http://pastebin.com/m27bde1e1
[06:43] <unop> Rat409, bwananna  editing /etc/inittab is unlikely to work and the default runlevel is 2 .. it's the same as runlevels 3-5
[06:44] <bwananna> so what can i do
[06:44] <unop> l3d, do you have konsole installed?
[06:44] <LSD|Ninja> niriven: I think it's pretty much just the kernel it treats this way. It makes a kind of sense when you think about it. If a kernel update fails, there's plenty to fall back on and putting the responsibility of removing the old ones on the user means it only happens if they;re absolutely sure everything works right
[06:44] <l3d> yes
[06:44] <unop> bwananna, boot up into recovery mode .. then issue this command.  update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[06:45] <bwananna> well i need internet access
[06:45] <Rat409> unop: sorry forgot things changed over releases
[06:45] <niriven> LSD|Ninja, Thanks
[06:45] <unop> bwananna, no .. to then get to runlevel 2. type   telinit 2
[06:46] <unop> Rat409, !upstart replaced sysvinit in 6.06 i believe
[06:46] <Rat409> i multiboot a few linux
[06:47] <Rat409> anyways noted
[06:47] <unop> bwananna, internet access should still work fine without X
[06:47] <unop> bwananna, to start GDM once you have completed your task in the console.  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:48] <nate_> im trying to get mono installed but it gives me this error http://pastebin.com/m27bde1e1
[06:49] <unop> nate_, it doesn't look like you have all the ubuntu repositories enabled.
[06:49] <unop> !repositories | nate_,
[06:50] <Drago1> How do i eject a cd that running in wine
[06:50] <Drago1> it says unable to mount
[06:51] <Drago1> is there an over ride command or what?
[06:51] <powertool08> Drago1: sudo umount /path/where/cd/mounted
[06:52] <peter__> \names
[06:52] <unop> l3d, change the last line to.  echo "$dir" > /tmp/test.log  # run the script as you would, then check if the file /tmp/test.log has been created and whether it contains the directory you selected.
[06:52] <unop> Drago1, sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[06:53] <Dave88LX> Well, It's recognizing a B43 restricted driver, and I enabled that
[06:53] <Dave88LX> I guess I still need to download a driver/firmware too though, I don't know
[06:53] <ballzee> i cant hardly hear my headphones anyone know why speakers arnt too hot either
[06:55] <powertool08> ballzee: check all your volume levels with 'alsamixer'
[06:55] <xophere> I have the latest 8.04 installed.  Trying to build both the cisco  client and the vmware player but their are issues in the kernel headers directories and source,  vmware player config says running kernel is different then source.  I can't figure out how to sync the kernel to the source tree without building the kernel or back leveling.  I can handle either but trying to avoid that.
[06:55] <Heer1> how to install directx on ubuntu?
[06:57] <LSD|Ninja> HeeroMamoru: you don't...
[06:57] <pan> how do i turn off xinit screen
[06:57] <unop> HeeroMamoru, you can't
[06:57] <sjea> ouch here another Q  sudo umount /media/cdrom get umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy ? any thought
[06:57] <pan> on screen 1
[06:57] <pan> i did startx xinit -- :1
[06:57] <HeeroMamoru> i heard they can install directx with wine
[06:58] <powertool08> sjea: is your current directory /media/cdrom? if so cd to /home and try again
[06:58] <Guest74948> hi. if i do cat /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness i get current state 70, how do i set it to 100?
[06:59] <Guest74948> something echo 100....or am i wrong?
[06:59] <Xodiac13> what is the login and password for fluxubuntu for the live cd
[06:59] <Flannel> Xodiac13: You should ask in #fluxbuntu, that's not an official flavor
[06:59] <Xodiac13> are there installation instructions for the ati radeon x1200 i need help installing the display driver for linux
[07:00] <vikku> iam getting following err on installing the bochs
[07:00] <damo> anyone know where i can buy cheap shells?
[07:00] <vikku> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[07:00] <vikku> E: Error occurred while processing llgal (NewVersion1)
[07:00] <vikku> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/fr.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[07:00] <vikku> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[07:00] <FloodBot1> vikku: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <vikku> ahhh ok
[07:00] <pan> anyone know how to hack wpa wireless network?
[07:01] <Kartagis> damo, www.egghelp.org/shells.htm
[07:01] <powertool08> pan: push the reset button on the back of the router ;)
[07:02] <vikku> http://paste.ubuntu.com/42614/ .. pls help
[07:02] <pan> na i was trying to get someone elses router password
[07:02] <pan> hex key
[07:02] <pan> wep is easy
[07:02] <l3d> it did contain the dir
[07:02] <powertool08> pan: thats illegal, so you won't get help here
[07:03] <pan> aight
[07:03] <Drago1> I cannot eject it says device busy
[07:03] <unop> l3d, try this at a console.   konsole --workdir "/tmp"  # does konsole open in /tmp ?
[07:03] <Drago1> I am unable to eject no matter what using regular terminal commands
[07:04] <Rat409> Drago1: are you in that disc with filemanager or prompt? cd out then try
[07:05] <Drago1> Rat409: Currently I'm installing wow through wine and i cannot eject the disc to insert the next one
[07:06] <Drago1> Rat409: Even though it says insert next disc
[07:06] <unop> !who | l3d
[07:06] <godmode117> yo
[07:06] <Drago1> Rat409: It says cannot unmount or something because application busy
[07:06] <godmode117> is there a separate "trash" file for different hard drives?
[07:07] <Rat409> Drago1: hmm,try using winfiler in wineor whatever doze filer
[07:07] <Drago1> Rat409: not sure what you mean?
[07:07] <unop> l3d, modify the last line in your script to say this.  { konsole --workdir "$dir" } >/tmp/test.log 2>&1   # then pastebin /tmp/test.log when done
[07:08] <pan> wat's the purpose in running xinit -- :1 then in console startfluxbox
[07:08] <pan> i dont see the purpose in it
[07:08] <pan> i was wondering if someone to explain to me the purpose
[07:09] <unop> pan, you don't need all that - startx should take care of it all, provided your ~/.xinitrc runs startfluxbox
[07:09] <SpartanII117> hello, i am trying to install hardy heron on a Sony Viao VGN-sz270p laptop, the menu comes up asking about what language then what you want to do, but when you choose an option ,    the CD spins up but nothing else happens and no data is read from the CD. does any one know how to get it to boot?
[07:09] <Drago1> I wish there was a way to manually over ride it to be able to take the disc out and put the next one it
[07:09] <pan> x is already running
[07:09] <pan> it will say
[07:09] <Rat409> pan: xinit bypasses your ~/.xinitrc and startfluxbox tells it to use the startup file in your ~/.fluxbox
[07:09] <godmode117> is there a separate "trash" file for different hard drives?
[07:09] <zcat[1]> godmode117: I think so .. ~/.local/share/Trash for your ~ and /media/foo/.Trash for each mounted device
[07:09] <powertool08> pan: it will start a second xserver session so you can have two instances of gnome running
[07:09] <l3d> unop : yes that open the konsole at the dir /tmp
[07:09] <pan> right i have two gnome running
[07:10] <pan> i just dont know the purpose of it
[07:10] <pan> when fluxbox already has workspaces
[07:10] <unop> l3d, close konsole .. then paste the output of that file please
[07:10] <godmode117> zcat[1]: ill try it out, thank you
[07:10] <powertool08> pan: I suppose so you could run gnome on run and fluxbox on another and kde on another all at the same time?
[07:10] <Rat409> pan: it can be used to run 2 diff de's or windowmanagers or for checking changes in configs
[07:11] <pan> oh i c
[07:11] <pan> but i'm not able to run windows correct?
[07:11] <Rat409> pan: depends on how your system is cpu/ram etc.
[07:11] <MTeck> hello :)
[07:11] <Rat409> pan: no windows no
[07:11] <pan> ok
[07:11] <MTeck> sorry for the proxy, just works atm
[07:12] <MTeck> How can I make a module load when I boot my system?
[07:12] <godmode117> do hidden show up in terminal?
[07:12] <godmode117> hidden files*
[07:12] <Rat409> godmode117:  if you use ls -a
[07:12] <MTeck> godmode117: ls -a
[07:12] <godmode117> thanks guys
[07:13] <godmode117> im having problems finding the trash on a mounted NTFS driv
[07:13] <godmode117> drive*
[07:13] <MTeck> I know enabling a module on boot is easy, i just forgot how
[07:13] <favro> MTeck: add it as the last line in  /etc/modules
[07:15] <nirupama> where can I find the language team here
[07:15] <pan> how do i make a hidden folder
[07:15] <pan> mkdir ???
[07:15] <pan> not sure what to do afterwards
[07:16] <danbhfive> !partitions
[07:16] <nirupama> I need to show some translations done by me
[07:16] <alanluo> hello
[07:16] <LSD|Ninja> pan: make the first character a period. eg mkdir .thisfolderwillbehidden
[07:16] <pan> ah
[07:16] <l3d>  unop  : http://pastebin.com/m39e5e1f5
[07:16] <unop> pan, any file with a . infront becomes a hidden file
[07:16] <pan> k thx
[07:16] <pan> no wonder all hidden folders r with a .
[07:16] <pan> i c
[07:16] <pan> makes sense
[07:16] <pan> thx
[07:17] <unop> l3d, hmm, it doesn't say much .. take off everything after } on the last line .. and you have your script
[07:17] <Rat409> pan: full path to where you want it or goes to current directory
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> palt: if you run cd ~/; ls -a
[07:17] <godmode117> does anyone know where the trash files are for mounted volumes?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> pan: you'll see a tonne of stuff i your home directory
[07:17] <pan> yeah i know
[07:18] <l3d> unop thanks
[07:18] <pan> i always wanted to know wat folder with "." was fore
[07:18] <pan> cause i did ls -a to see hidden folders
[07:18] <pan> never knew the "." had a purpose in making hidden folder
[07:18] <unop> pan, . represents the current directory
[07:18] <pan> i know
[07:19] <bullgard4> Ubuntu 8.04.1 prints at boot time: "Loading kernel modules". I wonder if this has been due to the execution of /etc/init.d/module-init-tools or /etc/rc.S.d/S15module-init-tools.
[07:19] <powertool08> godmode117: my guess is /media/mounted_drive/.trash
[07:19] <godmode117> nope
[07:19] <godmode117> thanks though
[07:20] <unop> godmode117, /mount/point/.Trash-<yourusername>  or  /mount/point/.Trash-<youruserid>
[07:22] <wally13377> how do i mount a usb stick
[07:22] <godmode117> unop: dan@desktop1:/media$ cd /.Trash-dan
[07:22] <godmode117> bash: cd: /.Trash-dan: No such file or directory
[07:22] <nirupama> wally13377, mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[07:23] <nirupama> if usb is in sdb1 or it could be found from
[07:23] <unop> godmode117, ls -ls /mount/point
[07:23] <nirupama> dmesg
[07:23] <unop> godmode117, /media is not usually a mount point
[07:23] <l3d> unop  that didnt work so i added this    konsole --workdir "$dir" &1   and it work thanks for the help
[07:23] <wally13377> wow so much more helpful in here than in debian
[07:23] <wally13377> ty
[07:23] <godmode117> unop: thats where my stuff gets mounted
[07:23] <ph0rensic> !grub
[07:23] <unop> l3d, konsole is stupid
[07:24] <l3d> lol nice
[07:24] <ay^> unop uh its not?
[07:24] <unop> godmode117, on /media .. not in directories under /media ?
[07:24] <unop> ay^, whatever
[07:24] <godmode117> oh, i fuxed up hold on
[07:24] <bwananna> unop: thanks for the help, you're telinit 2 is what allowed us to solve the problem
[07:24] <unop> bwananna, cool
[07:25] <ay^> unop, ok now you lost me, I wasn't trying to be an asshole.
[07:25] <ay^> unop: tho if my stupidity offended you, I appologize
[07:25] <unop> ay^, konsole wouldn't launch when everything seemed normal in a script -- all he did was add a & to the end off the line and it launches
[07:25] <unop> ay^, which doesn't make sense at all
[07:26] <godmode117> ok
[07:26] <godmode117> im here
[07:26] <godmode117> dan@desktop1:/media/disk$
[07:26] <ay^> unop: oh..
[07:26] <godmode117> thats the disk i need to find the trash file on
[07:26] <DIFH-iceroot> ubuntu-server-edition 8.04 == debian 4.0 unstable? or what is ubuntu?
[07:27] <SpartanII117> i am trying to install hardy heron on a Sony Viao VGN-sz270p laptop, the menu comes up asking about what language then what you want to do, but when you choose an option, the CD spins up but nothing else happens and no data is read from the CD. does any one know how to get it to boot?
[07:27] <unop> godmode117, actually you could do this.   find /media -iname '*trash*' -type d  # that should look under all mount points for directories by that name
[07:27] <godmode117> just type " find /media -iname '*trash*' -type d  #" in terminal?
[07:27] <danbhfive> !trash
[07:28] <unop> godmode117, right
[07:28] <nate_> hay is there a torrent downloader that encyps my signal like utorrent on linux
[07:28] <danbhfive> nate_: does transmission do it?
[07:28] <nate_> idk
[07:28] <nate_> does it
[07:28] <powertool08> nate_: rtorrent does but its command line only
[07:28] <Rat409>  nate_ if you mean encrypt,deluge is only one i know of
[07:28] <unop> danbhfive, he's not looking for the location of trash on the local disk .. but the location on removable media
[07:29] <nate_> and that will help protect against isp watching my download stuff right?
[07:29] <danbhfive> nate_: there is an option to ignore unencrypted peers, so that hints something to me
[07:29] <danbhfive> unop: personally, I think the factoid should just be updated
[07:30] <Rat409> nate_: if you set the options i spose
[07:30] <powertool08> nate_: not really, they aren't stupid, tons of encrypted traffic flying around is most likely p2p encrypted traffic
[07:30] <DIFH-iceroot> i can choose between debian 4.0 and ubuntu 8.04LTS for a vserver and i dont know if ubuntu-server-edition is good as debian 4.0 (which has no LTs)
[07:30] <unop> danbhfive, a lot of the factoid do ...
[07:30] <nate_> ture
[07:30] <nate_> true*
[07:30] <powertool08> nate_: but it does make get your traffic through packet shapers which throttle based on protocol
[07:30] <nate_> but if i can make it harder then i would like to do that
[07:30] <godmode117> ok, i tried that command and it started searching, then it said "find: /media/disk/lost+found: Permission denied" so i tried sudo'ing it and it just brings me back to the blinking cursor
[07:31] <danbhfive> unop: im actually pissed, because I took the time to update a couple of factoids, and it seems they were rejected
[07:31] <danbhfive> I should leave before I get in trouble
[07:31] <Dragon_Master> I need help with java and firefox3
[07:31] <danbhfive> !java
[07:31] <ay^> DIFH-iceroot: if you want to config most stuff your self, debian. Else ubuntu.  How to grant Internet connection to some users and reject for others? Thanks in advance.
[07:34] <DIFH-iceroot> ay^: so you think ubuntu is a good server-system? (security)
[07:34] <Wakei9_> muted
[07:34] <Wakei9_> muted
[07:34] <Wakei9_> ,uted
[07:34] <FloodBot1> Wakei9_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <godmode117> Wakie wtf
[07:35] <danbhfive> lol
[07:35] <Wakei9_> l0l
[07:35] <Wakei9_> wtf
[07:35] <ay^> DIFH-iceroot: kind of hard to say, but I think you would be allowed to be less secure with ubuntu then debian, because in debian you are somewhat forced to to everything your self, and thus learning.
[07:35] <godmode117> unop got any more ideas?
[07:36] <unop> godmode117, well, did that command find anything?
[07:36] <godmode117> i dont think so
[07:37] <DIFH-iceroot> ay^: yes thats right but i mean the quality of the pakets, debian pakets are older and more tested, so because of that i mean ubuntu == debian  unstable/testing?
[07:37] <unop> godmode117, tell me why you are looking for the trash location?
[07:37] <ay^> DIFH-iceroot: from wikipedia: "Ubuntu packages have generally been based on packages from Debian's unstable branch: "
[07:37] <Dragon_Master> I need help with java and firefox3
[07:37] <DIFH-iceroot> ay^: ok, so ubuntu = debian unstable
[07:37] <godmode117> unop:when i run it without sudo it gives me "find: /media/disk/lost+found: Permission denied" but with sduo it just runs real quick and then back to blinking cursor
[07:38] <ay^> DIFH-iceroot: yes according to wikipedia at least :)
[07:38] <unop> godmode117, so it doesn't look like any of your _mounted_ devices have the .Trash directory - which is normal.
[07:38] <godmode117> unop :im looking for the trash because in utorrent i deleted some files through the GUI and i dont think their gone
[07:38] <Dragon_Master> I need help with java and firefox3
[07:38] <blogi> hi all
[07:39] <echidn1> can someone help me out? I keep getting this error in the ubuntu terminal:
[07:39] <echidn1> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:39] <echidn1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:39] <unop> godmode117, where were these files located?
[07:39] <blogi> can anyone teach me how to install my new themes i downloaded
[07:39] <godmode117> on the "/disk" drive
[07:39] <unop> echidn1, do you have synaptic or update-manager open ?
[07:39] <unop> godmode117, what filesystem on /disk?
[07:39] <godmode117> NTFS, i think
[07:40] <echidn1> aha, yes i do. it's been happening intermittently, i guess that's why
[07:40] <unop> godmode117, try   find /disk -iname '*trash*'
[07:40] <echidn1> thanks
[07:40] <Megaqwerty> blogi: System>Preferences>Appearance
[07:40] <Dragon_Master> I need help with java and firefox3
[07:40] <godmode117> unop: that command exactly?
[07:40] <DIFH-iceroot> Dragon_Master: ask your question
[07:40] <unop> godmode117, well, asumming your disk was mounted at /disk, yes
[07:40] <unop> godmode117, substitute the right path there if it is not
[07:41] <Dragon_Master> Well, when I've had this problem for weeks, I've got java installed and all, it just will not work for some reason
[07:41] <Megaqwerty> blogi: does that answer your question? If not, could you be more specific?
[07:41] <godmode117> unop: ok
[07:41] <blogi> wait
[07:41] <echidn1> also, i don't quite understand the deal with installing programs manually
[07:41] <echidn1> when using a tarball
[07:42] <echidn1> do i need to extract the tarball to a specific directory, or does it just put it wherever the tar.gz is?
[07:42] <echidn1> when it's built and stuff
[07:42] <Megaqwerty> echidn1: wherever you want to extract it
[07:42] <bullgard4> Ubuntu 8.04.1 prints at boot time: "Loading kernel modules". I wonder if this has been due to the execution of /etc/init.d/module-init-tools or /etc/rc.S.d/S15module-init-tools.
[07:42] <fallopiantubeses> :)
[07:42] <zcat[1]> godmode117: ".Trash" not ".trash" -- capital T
[07:42] <echidn1> well where are the programs typically installed? i want to keep organized with the existing file structure
[07:42] <unop> zcat[1], -iname finds both
[07:42] <zcat[1]> oh, sorry uncorq
[07:43] <zcat[1]> Doh..
[07:43] <unop> heh
[07:43] <zcat[1]> yeah, you..
[07:43] <unop> !build | echidn1
[07:43] <echidn1> ah, thanks
[07:43] <Dragon_Master> Well, when I've had this problem for weeks, I've got java installed and all, it just will not work for some reason
[07:43] <zcat[1]> coffee defficiency .. brain slowing down
[07:43]  * unop needs some lemon tea!
[07:44] <godmode117> unop, zcat[1]: i didnt find it, would it be in "/lost+found"?
[07:44] <zcat[1]> godmode117: no, lost+found is for lost inodes that fsck recovers
[07:44] <godmode117> o
[07:44] <echidn1> sudo apt-get install automake
[07:44] <echidn1> oops
[07:45] <godmode117> then where would those files go?
[07:45] <fallopiantubeses> :)
[07:45] <echidn1> well thanks for the help
[07:45] <Dragon_Master> Well, when I've had this problem for weeks, I've got java installed and all, it just will not work for some reason
[07:45] <zcat[1]> godmode117: how's you delete them? GUI or rm?
[07:45] <backslash7> Hi folks
[07:45] <Chibone_> hey
[07:46] <backslash7> I'm trying to prepare a usb stick in order to install ubuntu from there
[07:46] <godmode117> zcat[1]: it was in the utorrent (under wine) gui
[07:46] <backslash7> But it's not working... It's kinda MultiBoot usb stick
[07:46] <backslash7> I have syslinux installed there
[07:46] <backslash7> I followed the instructions (except I put everthing instead of in the / into /ulive maybe that's the problem?)
[07:46] <zcat[1]> godmode117: sounds like they're really gone if they're not in a .Trash somewhere
[07:47]  * Dragon_Master screams like a maniac
[07:47] <backslash7> I always get thrown into "busybox"
[07:47] <godmode117> what would be the command to search the whole filesystem for .trash files?
[07:47] <unop> godmode117, i'm not sure a .Trash directory is maintained for NTFS volumes -- in any case, you could probably use some undelete tools to recover files - unfortunately most of them are windows only
[07:47] <zcat[1]> find / -iname "*trash"
[07:48] <unop> godmode117, you might want to add a -type d   to that
[07:48] <backslash7> How do I install flashplugin for firefox
[07:48] <unop> find / -iname '*trash*' -type d
[07:48] <backslash7> It say flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin are up to date
[07:48] <zcat[1]> ntfsundelete in ntfstools package?
[07:48] <godmode117> ill try that
[07:48] <zcat[1]> !info ntfstools
[07:48] <Dragon_Master> I've got java installed and all, it just will not work for some reason
[07:48] <wally13377> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111972 for that guide what if i have a dynamic ip?
[07:48] <unop> !info ntfsprogs
[07:48] <zcat[1]> Err.. what the hell did I install? ntfssomething
[07:48] <zcat[1]> yeah, thank!
[07:48] <zcat[1]> s...!
[07:48] <backslash7> Hi there
[07:48] <backslash7> ping
[07:49] <backslash7> anyone? How do I install flash for firefox
[07:49] <zcat[1]> backslash7: click the puzzle piece and follow the instructions?
[07:49] <zcat[1]> just like in 'doze
[07:49] <unop> backslash7, sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:49] <nnull> hey guys is there any programs that will read txt files or html data block out aloud?
[07:50] <godmode117> ok, that command only showed the normal desktop trash file
[07:50] <Dragon_Master> I've got java installed and all, it just will not work for some reason
[07:50] <unop> nnull, festival probably
[07:50] <Kartagis> what to do about http://paste.ubuntu.com/42620/ please?
[07:50] <zcat[1]> godmode117: ntfsundelete perhaps?
[07:50] <slamFIST> backslash7: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:50] <steveydoteu> Dragon_Master, what won't work?
[07:50] <Megaqwerty> nnull: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/03/29/simple-text-to-speech-in-ubuntu/
[07:50] <slamFIST> oops someone already beat me to it
[07:51] <zcat[1]> !info festival
[07:51] <nnull> thankyou guys
[07:51] <powertool08> Does anyone know how to fix the error "bad service request ssh-connection" in putty when attempting to connect to linux ssh server?
[07:51] <godmode117> zcat[1]: ill try that
[07:51] <rnd_> moin
[07:51] <Dragon_Master> Java, it's not showing up at about:plugins
[07:51] <Dragon_Master> its not detecting it
[07:51] <rnd_> uhh, english channel. I am wrong :)
[07:51] <unop> Kartagis, what king of script is  /etc/cron.daily/logrotate ?
[07:52] <Kartagis> unop, what do you mean exactly?
[07:52] <unop> Kartagis, run this command.  file -s /etc/cron.daily/logrotate
[07:52] <Dragon_Master> =/
[07:52] <zcat[1]> I think it would be a bash script..
[07:53] <godmode117> zcat[1]: dan@desktop1:/media$ ntfsundelete -s disk/
[07:53] <godmode117> Error reading bootsector: Is a directory.
[07:53] <godmode117> Failed to startup volume: Is a directory.
[07:53] <godmode117> Failed to mount 'disk/': Is a directory.
[07:53] <FloodBot1> godmode117: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:53] <Kartagis> unop, /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: POSIX shell script text executable
[07:53] <Dragon_Master> I've got java installed and all, it just will not work for some reason
[07:53] <godmode117> sorry for the flood
[07:53] <unop> zcat[1], looks like it isn't
[07:53] <unop> Kartagis, put the script up on a !pastebin
[07:53] <zcat[1]> #!/bin/sh   -- what does your one start with?
[07:54] <unop> zcat[1], /bin/sh isn't bash :)
[07:54] <Kartagis> unop, http://pastebin.com/f74deb348
[07:54] <zcat[1]> unop: /bin/bash isn't bach either!
[07:54] <zcat[1]> *bash
[07:54] <Dragon_Master> I've got java installed and all, it just will not work for some reason
[07:55] <wally13377> my laptop keyboard gives me a ~ instead of a | when i press the combo to get | why is this
[07:55] <unop> zcat[1], i don't know which twisted reality you're in but anyway .. :))
[07:55] <zcat[1]> afaik they're both dash (or am I wrong)
[07:55] <Megaqwerty> Dragon_Master: is it possible you installed firefox from mozilla.com instead of the repositories?
[07:55] <unop> zcat[1], echo $SHELL :)
[07:55] <zcat[1]> hmm, perhaps I'm wrong.. I thought they were both aslised to /bin/dash
[07:56] <zcat[1]> only sh is.
[07:56] <Kartagis> guys guys stop fighting
[07:56] <unop> zcat[1], /bin/sh links to dash usually
[07:56] <unop> Kartagis, ls -l /usr/sbin/logrotate
[07:56] <zcat[1]> unop: so anyhoooo.. it's a 'sh' script
[07:57] <zcat[1]> as if it makes any real difference!
[07:57] <godmode117> zcat[1], unop: sorry to keep bothering you, but im still stuck
[07:57] <Kartagis> unop, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 38736 2006-06-19 21:21 /usr/sbin/logrotate
[07:57] <unop> zcat[1], big difference .. the POSIX standard does not support bashisms
[07:57] <Dragon_Master> Megaqwerty, firefox 3 didn't come on repositories
[07:57] <Dragon_Master> xD
[07:57] <Dragon_Master> that I know of
[07:57] <Kartagis> it's 755 and owned by root:root
[07:57] <Dragon_Master> and I installed  it from the site
[07:57] <Dragon_Master> =P
[07:58] <unop> Kartagis,  /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf;  echo $?
[07:58] <Megaqwerty> Dragon_Master: that's your problem (and Firefox 3 is in the repositories)
[07:58] <Dragon_Master> Megaqwerty where?
[07:58] <Kartagis> error: error creating state file /var/lib/logrotate/status: Permission denied
[07:58] <Megaqwerty> Dragon_Master: sudo aptitude install firefox
[07:58] <zcat[1]> godmode117: sorry but I'm not familiar with the ntfsutils other than being aware that they exist, really..
[07:58] <Kartagis> maybe that's why unop
[07:59] <Megaqwerty> Dragon_Master: It comes default with Hardy
[07:59] <zcat[1]> godmode117: try the man page for ntfsundelete?
[07:59] <unop> Kartagis, try running that under sudo
[07:59] <bullgard4> Ubuntu 8.04.1 prints at boot time: "Loading kernel modules". I wonder if this has been due to the execution of /etc/init.d/module-init-tools or /etc/rc.S.d/S15module-init-tools.
[07:59] <unop> bullgard4, you could grep the contents of /etc/init.d to find out
[08:00] <godmode117> where can i look at all my systems "devices"?
[08:00] <bullgard4> unop: I will do that.
[08:00] <Dragon_Master> Megaqwerty, now where do I find it
[08:00] <Dragon_Master> xD
[08:00] <Kartagis> unop, 0
[08:00] <Megaqwerty> Dragon_Master: Applications>Internet
[08:00] <unop> bullgard4, and i would bet that /etc/rc.S.d/S15module-init-tools is a symlink to /etc/init.d/module-init-tools
[08:01] <Dragon_Master> Dragon_Master>Kubuntu
[08:01] <Dragon_Master> =P
[08:01] <steveydoteu> Any means of extracting archives on mass?
[08:01] <unop> Kartagis, hmm, strange .. ok, where did you get your error?
[08:01] <Kartagis> godmode117, lspci
[08:01] <steveydoteu> I have a folder full of zip/rar archives
[08:01] <Dragon_Master> it no show up
[08:01] <unop> steveydoteu, a for loop.
[08:01] <Kartagis> unop, in the email sent to me by anacron
[08:01] <steveydoteu> unop elaborate please
[08:01] <Megaqwerty> Dragon_Master: It should be in your menu
[08:02] <Dragon_Master> maybe i need to restart
[08:02] <Dragon_Master> xD
 thanks
[08:02] <Megaqwerty> Dragon_Master: if you know how to add a menu item, add one with the command being "firefox" (without the quotes)
[08:02] <unop> Kartagis, maybe it's just a one off
[08:02] <Dragon_Master> it stopped auto show up when I got KDE4
[08:02] <Dragon_Master> =P
[08:03] <Kartagis> unop, what do you mean?
 im looking for the device list that would have hardrives
[08:03] <superlinux> can some one just help me with skype? just want to test my webcam?
[08:03] <Megaqwerty> Dragon_Master: fine, I'll give you a workaround because I need to leave in like 5 mins
[08:04] <unop> steveydoteu,  for i in *.{zip,rar}; do if [[ ${i##*.} == 'zip' ]]; then echo unzip "$i"; else echo unrar "$i"; fi; done
[08:04] <unop> steveydoteu, remove the echos if you are happy with how the commands will be executed
[08:05] <steveydoteu> unop at the end, fi, should that be if?
[08:05] <backslash7> slamFIST, thank you, worked find.
[08:05] <unop> steveydoteu, no, fi marks the end of an if .. then .. else .. block.
[08:05] <Dragon_Master> Megaqwerty, now it doesn't open
[08:05] <Dragon_Master> .<
[08:06] <Dragon_Master> .<
[08:06] <FloodBot1> Dragon_Master: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:06] <unop> Kartagis, i mean, the cronjob could have failed just once .. not necessarily an indication that something is seriously wrong.
[08:06] <unop> Kartagis, unless off course you get many emails from cron with the same problem.
[08:07] <steveydoteu> unop it just outputs a list of the archives, i presume thats all the echo i would get though?
[08:07] <Kartagis> unop, I do
[08:07] <PlayEdUdE> ubuntu rox!!!
[08:07] <steveydoteu> actually unop thats all it has done
[08:07] <needhelp> Hello... I have captured some vids from a cam and burnt them as .mpg on to a DVD disc. But when I watch it on the DVD-player (not on PC), the TV cuts the edges so I don't see the very left and right of the vid. Is there a way to fix it ?
[08:07] <unop> steveydoteu. remove the echos from the command to have the script actually do the extraction
[08:07] <steveydoteu> aaah
[08:07] <steveydoteu> just the echo?
[08:08] <unop> steveydoteu, yea, both of them, there are two there
[08:08] <bullgard4> unop: You would have won your bet. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[08:08] <steveydoteu> unop, i presume i can add other archive formats also, if i have the correct packages installed?
[08:09] <steveydoteu> thank you for your help, its appreciated
[08:09] <unop> steveydoteu, yea sure -- though the commands to extract those files will probably be different and might need switches adding, etc
[08:09] <Kartagis> unop, I just realized one thing. /var/log/mysql.log exists but /var/log/mysql/mysql.log and /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log don't. could this be the cause?
[08:09]  * steveydoteu saves command
[08:10] <unop> Kartagis, hmm, maybe.  let's have a look at /etc/logrotate.conf
[08:11]  * anewbie GOOOOOD MOOOORNING VIEEEEEETNAAAAAM
[08:11] <nate_> how do i make and add chatrooms in pidgin?
[08:11] <unop> nate_, the folks in #freenode will point you in the right direction.
[08:12] <Kartagis> unop, http://pastebin.com/f67197a59
[08:12] <nate_> thanks
[08:13] <devilsgate> hello
[08:14] <unop> Kartagis, hmm, nowhere in both  /usr/sbin/logrotate and /etc/logrotate.conf is there any mention of mysql .. which is odd and possibly contributes to the problem
[08:15] <unop> Kartagis, ls /etc/logrotate.d/*mysql*
[08:15] <Dragon_Master> erm
[08:15] <Dragon_Master> I messed up my firefox
[08:15] <Dragon_Master> ><
[08:16] <unop> Dragon_Master, everyone gets to that point sometime in the relationship.  what exactly's happened?
[08:16] <Dragon_Master> xD
[08:17] <Dragon_Master> when I click it to start
[08:17] <Dragon_Master> it doesn't load
[08:18] <unop> Dragon_Master, firefox has probably crashed .. open up a terminal and issue this command.   killall firefox-bin && firefox
[08:18] <misteralexander> I need to list the contents of a directory, and have the output stored in a CSV file . . . does Linux natively support this feature via Terminal or external App???
[08:19] <unop> misteralexander, all files on one line in the CSV file?
[08:19] <Kartagis> unop, /etc/logrotate.d/mysql-server
[08:19] <Dragon_Master> Cannot find mozilla runtime directory
[08:19] <unop> Dragon_Master, hmm .. reinstall firefox i would assume
[08:19] <Dragon_Master> I just did XD but ookay xD
[08:19] <unop> Kartagis, let's have a look at that file then .. phew!!
[08:19] <misteralexander> unop: Well, I'm using a "Movie Manager" program, and it says I can import all my movie titles if they're in a CSV file.
[08:20] <unop> misteralexander, that's not saying very much about what you have to do with the files or how exactly the .CSV file is to be formatted.
[08:20] <Dragon_Master> how do I uninstall it XD
[08:20] <unop> misteralexander, does the program have any samples/templates you can work with?
[08:21] <unop> Dragon_Master, sudo aptitude remove firefox
[08:21] <misteralexander> unop:  By the by, your "Audacity" reccomendation early worked like a charm, thank you very much.  As for the CSV, I looked it up on Wikipedia, and I think i want each title on it's own line.
[08:21] <Dragon_Master> xD
[08:21] <Dragon_Master> I did it from the site
[08:21] <Kartagis> unop, http://pastebin.com/fda010a2
[08:22] <unop> misteralexander, hmm.  well, you could do this.   ls -1 /directory/containing/movies > file.csv  # but that's not really a .CSV file, but do try it out, it might work
[08:22] <unop> misteralexander, actually no. use find.  find /directory/containing/movies > file.csv
[08:22] <Kartagis> unop, this line exists ---> /var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log
[08:23] <Assargadon> Is it possible to make ubuntu updates server in local network? If yes, point we in right direction (keywords for google, for example)
[08:23] <misteralexander> unop: okay, i'll try find . . . be right back.
[08:24] <Dragon_Master> =/
[08:24] <Dragon_Master> didn't work
[08:25] <misteralexander> unop: Nothing, I just got an Input / Output error.
[08:26] <misteralexander> unop: more specifically - bash: file.csv: Input/output error
[08:26] <unop> Kartagis, ok, make a backup of the file - then put this in its place - http://pastebin.com/d2d4a6e21 - then run /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
[08:26] <Dragon_Master> unop, how do you uninstall the one I installed from the site
[08:27] <misteralexander> unop: It's in - $ /media/My Book/Movies/{{{{ 280 DivX Movies In Here }}}}}
[08:27] <unop> misteralexander, hmm .. what exactly are you doing to get that error
[08:27] <alpha232> lol
[08:27] <unop> Dragon_Master, did you install firefox manually at some point?
[08:28] <Dragon_Master> yes
[08:28] <unop> Dragon_Master, hmm, don't you remember where you extracted it to?
[08:28] <misteralexander> unop: $ cd /media/My\ Book  [then]  find /Movies/ > file.csv
[08:28] <Dragon_Master> I do
[08:28] <Dragon_Master> xD
[08:29] <unop> Dragon_Master, i suppose you can just delete the directory then
[08:29] <unop> Dragon_Master, and that gets rid of it
[08:29] <unop> misteralexander, i don't think you have got the command right
[08:30] <blogi> what is a splash screen
[08:30] <misteralexander> Okay, well i'll do some old fashioned google research . . . i'll figure it out . . . that's what learning this damned operating system is all about.
[08:30] <misteralexander> I got it so I could learn.
[08:30] <misteralexander> LOL
[08:30] <unop> misteralexander, find '/media/My Book/Movies/' > ~/movie_list.csv
[08:30] <unop> misteralexander, that creates the CSV in your home directory
[08:30] <airtonix> '/media/My\ Book/Movies/' > ~/movie_list.csv : note the  \
[08:31] <Kartagis> unop, error: error creating state file /var/lib/logrotate/status: Permission denied
[08:31] <unop> airtonix, not needed when quoted
[08:31] <alpha232> spaces in file names are so overrated
[08:31] <misteralexander> unop: okay, I see the slash, let me try.
[08:31] <unop> Kartagis, bahh .. sorry, use sudo
[08:31] <Kartagis> okay, it seems okay now
[08:31] <blogi> anybody tell me whats a splash screen?
[08:31] <unop> misteralexander, the backslash is not needed
[08:32] <unop> misteralexander, infact it shouldn't exist
[08:33] <Tommo-dmc> I need to disable my Atheros AR5BXB63 card (EEE PC)'s HAL and support etc so I can install madwifi-ng to allow monitor mode... but my hardware drivers list is empty. Is there a command to list drivers (like lspci but for drivers) to disable them so I can restart and install the new ones?
[08:34] <unop> Kartagis, does the command give you any extra output?
[08:34] <bentob0x> how do I permanently remove firefox 2 and use only firefox3?
[08:34] <misteralexander> unop:  even without the slash, it doesn't work . . . it says no file or directory . . . but it IS there, I'm browsing it right now . . . Terminal just refuses to let me navigate to it!
[08:35] <unop> misteralexander, use tab complete to get it right for you.  cd /media/my<TAB>
[08:35] <karex> hi, is there the way to get what dependency is not satisfied (recursively)?
[08:35] <unop> misteralexander, once you have entered the directory successfully.. you can do this.  find "$PWD" > ~/movie_list.csv
[08:36] <Kartagis> unop, no not yet, I'll have to check e-mail tomorrow
[08:36] <misteralexander> unop: man you're good . . . okay, let me try that one.
[08:36] <Kartagis> thanks a lot
[08:36] <unop> Kartagis, ok
[08:36] <Dabbu> i want to share my internet with other user over LAN any simple application to do that
[08:37] <Dragon_Master> didn't work
[08:37] <Dragon_Master> ><
[08:37] <unop> !ics > Dabbu
[08:37] <alpha232> is there a way to re-install without overwriting the current configs?
[08:38] <Dabbu> unop:hey i followed the guide but not able to share ...
[08:38] <unop> Dragon_Master, ahh well, just do this then.  sudo aptitude remove '~i firefox' && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install firefox
[08:38] <unop> alpha232, reinstall what?
[08:39] <alpha232> unop: ubuntu....
[08:39] <alpha232> unop: i need to move from 6.10 to 6.06 so i can goto 8.10
[08:39] <LSD|Ninja> alpha232: why can't you go straight from 6.06 -> 8.10?
[08:39] <unop> LSD|Ninja, not supported
[08:40] <alpha232> yep.... they spit out an update to the LTS
[08:40] <unop> alpha232, downgrades are not supported either
[08:40] <alpha232> then negleted to mention that oh well you can't upgrade to the next LTS unless you tip toe
[08:40] <Dragon_Master> nope =x
[08:41] <unop> Dragon_Master, be verbose if you want good help ;)
[08:41] <Dragon_Master> It still is not loading
[08:41] <alpha232> unop:  so is there a way to install from a cd as a repo but not overwrite the configs?
[08:41] <computer> what is a good pdf editor?
[08:41] <unop> alpha232, can't you just make a backup of your config files .. install 8.04 and pull in the config files from your backup set as and when needed?
[08:42] <beno>  /server irc.efnet.info
[08:43] <unop> alpha232, you can use a CD as a repo yes .. but you need the alternate CD or ISO for that  -- but that still doesn't address how you are going to get to 8.04 the supported way.
[08:43] <nyarla> who could advise me on picking a good PCI soundcard compatible with hardy?
[08:43] <nnull> anyone know how i can slow espeak down? he talks way to fast
[08:43] <alpha232> unop: server iso :)
[08:43] <alpha232> unop: i am just disappointed that it is this difficult
[08:43] <unop> alpha232, if you are thinking of downgrading from 6.10 to 6.06 - not a good idea
[08:43] <alpha232> unop: only enough to jump up to the latest
[08:44] <LSD|Ninja> nyarla: any particular reason you want a seperate sound card?
[08:44] <misteralexander> unop:  Worked like a charm.  the "Griffith Movie Manager" program imported 288 DivX movies like a charm, THANKS!  That's twice in one night you've saved me . . . in case you were counting!  LOL.  THANKS!
[08:44] <alpha232> unop: it's just stupid i can't upgrade straight to the current LTS
[08:45] <nyarla> LSD|Ninja: yes, the soundchip of my motherboard is really crap
[08:45] <unop> alpha232, why don't you download the alternate ISOs for 7.04 and 7.10 etc .. use the 7.04 ISO to upgrade to 7.04, then use the next ISO to get to 7.10 and so on
[08:45] <unop> misteralexander, heh :)
[08:45] <alpha232> unop: because it would take forever
[08:45] <unop> misteralexander, it was a wild-guess
[08:45] <misteralexander> unop:  your wild guesses are probably better than my educated surety!
[08:46] <unop> alpha232, indeed -- but it's a safe way
[08:46] <misteralexander> LOL
[08:46] <nnull> anyone know how i can slow espeak down? he talks way to fast
[08:46] <misteralexander> unop:  thanks . . . bye!
[08:46] <nyarla> i'd like a soundcard with 5.1 output
[08:46] <alpha232> meh
[08:46] <LSD|Ninja> nyarla: If you absolutely must have a standalone sound card then teh Creative BSLives are fairly well supported but in all honesty, I'd rather have onboard
[08:47] <Theaxiom> !grub
[08:47] <nyarla> is creative supported without proprietary driver?
[08:47] <LSD|Ninja> nyarla: The emu10k BSLives are afaik
[08:47] <nnull> my audigy works fine so far, even provides 5.1 (possibly simulated, but still) for all audo events :D
[08:47] <nnull> audio*
[08:47] <nnull> anyone know how i can slow espeak down? he talks way to fast
[08:48] <unop> alpha232, mind if i PM ?
[08:48] <nyarla> LSD|Ninja: nnull thanks, i'll look for it
[08:48] <alpha232> unop: i suppose
[08:48] <kindofabuzz> nnull, man espeak
[08:49] <MikeSeth> espeak kicks ass
[08:49]  * Dragon_Master bangs head on Keyboard
[08:49] <unop> Dragon_Master, what happened?
[08:50] <cef> is there a gui for PPP setup?
[08:50] <doc> How do I work with a .sh file or a .run file..  :/
[08:50] <Dragon_Master> still isn't loading
[08:50] <Dragon_Master> xD
[08:50] <kindofabuzz> ./file.sh
[08:50] <unop> doc, chmod +x file.sh && ./file.sh
[08:50] <bakarat> hi, i have an odd problem on my ubuntu computer (7.10) -> when i boot, everything is fine, but bout 1 minute in, most of my desktop does not respond to mouse clicks anymore, i can still move the mouse around, and i can still control stuff with my keyboard, but the mouseclicks seem not to register
[08:50] <kindofabuzz> or sh file.sh
[08:50] <bakarat> any idea?
[08:51] <tuxPCtech> bakarat have you verified that you mouse hardware is functional?
[08:51] <unop> kindofabuzz, his file.sh might not be a shell script tho
[08:51] <doc> k lemme try
[08:51] <unop> Dragon_Master, does this return anything?  ps aux | grep -i firefox
[08:51] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, ye i have a small windows partition on the same computer, works fine there
[08:54] <nyarla> nnull: on your audigy, were you able to use the firewire port?
[08:54] <nnull> nyarla, havent tried have no firewire devices
[08:54] <Kamlanaut> Anyone know whether grub or grub2 is the default grub package for ubuntu?
[08:54] <tuxPCtech> bakarat: has the mouse ever worked in ubuntu?
[08:55] <bakarat> ye
[08:55] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, for ages
[08:55] <tuxPCtech> bakarat: what have you changed recently?
[08:55] <mo7> Kamlanaut, ubuntu 8.10 uses grub 0.97
[08:56] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, nothing that i know off, i was working in linux, rebooted to windows for some playing, rebooted to linux and the problem started
[08:57] <tuxPCtech> bakarat: What type of mouse are you using?
[08:57] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, wireless one, i actually have 2 hooked up to the computer at all times
[08:57] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, so i can switch when the battery dies (it's rechargeable)
[08:58] <tuxPCtech> Has the battery died recently bakarat?
[08:58] <sandeep> type /msg ubottu etiquette
[08:58] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, no
[08:59] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, i also tried the other mouse, same exact problem
[08:59] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, also note that i can move the mouse around and the pointer follows, just doesn't register clicking
[08:59] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, and it only kicks in after about a minute, all works well in that first minute
[09:00] <tuxPCtech> bakarat does the other mouse work fine?
[09:00] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, same exact problem
[09:01] <nnull> guys ive got a console command that i want to run with a bunch of parameters... how do i bind say netstat -nlp to ns ?
[09:02] <jegHegy> hello. how do i stop ubuntu from upgrading system components from a third-party repository? for example, i have a PPA added to install fresh versions of XBMC, but the repo also contains builds of apport, python etc. i just want XBMC to install/upgrade but ubuntu keeps telling me apport/etc are upgradable, constantly making a notification icon appear so i don't know if there are actual upgrades that interest me. help?
[09:02] <mo7> nnull, alias ns="netstat -nlp"
[09:02] <nnull> ty no
[09:02] <nnull> mo7, *
[09:02] <tuxPCtech> bakarat: sounds like a problem with your X server have you tried reconfigureing it?
[09:03] <nnull> mo7 is there a way to let it accept more info before excuting the command?
[09:04] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, not yet, but i was thinking along those lines
[09:04] <bakarat> tuxPCtech, will try that when i get home :)
[09:04] <narcarsiss>  how do i mount other hdd's that i cant see in the os
[09:05] <LavaHot> good q narcarsiss, I was just thinking that same thing
[09:05] <narcarsiss> lol thnx
[09:05] <narcarsiss> any ideas
[09:05] <LavaHot> nope
[09:06] <LavaHot> what version of ubuntu did you install?
[09:06] <narcarsiss> 8.04
[09:06] <LavaHot> full partition install, or windows install?
[09:07] <narcarsiss> full
[09:07] <narcarsiss> windows pfft
[09:08] <LavaHot> are you trying to access seperate drive, or partition on same drive?
[09:09] <bullgard4> [GNOME] What is default effect of pressing Ctrl+Alt+BckSpace in Ubuntu 8.04.1?
[09:09] <mo7> nnull, what exactly do you mean?
[09:09] <nnull> its all good mo7, never mind
[09:09] <mo7> : )
[09:09] <LavaHot> let me see bullgard4
[09:10] <platius> narcarsiss, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions       might find something here
[09:11] <narcarsiss> tnx did the job
[09:11] <lavahot> bullgard4: that would be a forced session exit
[09:11] <lavahot> ... I had to find out the hard way
[09:12] <lavahot> did somebody help you narcarsiss?
[09:13] <narcarsiss> lavahot yes platius did
[09:13] <frangko> /j #ubuntu-id
[09:14] <lavahot> ooo, pretty colors
[09:14] <bebraw> is there a list of supported usb dvb-t sticks for ubuntu somewhere?
[09:14] <bullgard4> lavahot: This is true for one of my Ubuntu 8.04.1 laptop computers (IBM Thinkpad T42). But on another one it will reboot the computer! I did not change the keyboard combination manually. How do you explain this different function? (The 2nd computer has been upgraded from Gutsy.)
[09:15] <Dragon_Master> okay, I go firefox working now
[09:15] <Dragon_Master> -_-
[09:15] <ijn> hello guys
[09:15] <Dragon_Master> got*
[09:15] <Dragon_Master> java still isn't working
[09:15] <Dragon_Master> xD
[09:16] <ijn> I need a express card for wireless N that is supported in ubuntu
[09:16] <ijn> enyone kknows one?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[09:17] <lavahot> not off the top of my head, did you check the hardware compatibility list?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> is anyone good with text manipulation scripts?
[09:17] <ijn> where I can find that list
[09:17] <Dragon_Master> wouldn't ndiswrapper and a windows wifi adapter work
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> I have a lot of files which at some point contain AT2RVM then some other letters (server names). I would like to create a list of these words if they appear in the text files
[09:18]  * delcoyote hi
[09:18] <computer> what is a good pdf editor?
[09:18] <ijn> lavahot:where I can check th hardware compatibilty list?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | ijn
[09:19] <computer> !pdf editor
[09:19] <ijn> ecomputer: evince
[09:19] <computer> ok
[09:19] <MortenB> No one is reacting to my plea for help. Did I do something wrong? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5707674
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> !info pdfedit | computer
[09:19] <GuteX> It seems that there is alot of questions here about stuff that can be found by using some google?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Ive tried grep -R -i -n 'RVM' * > result.txt but it gives me the entire line, I only want the server name. Can anyone please advise
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> GuteX: its one of the search engines I use to help folks
[09:20] <computer> sudo apt-get install pdfedit
[09:20] <remoteCTR1> what would i take as latex editor for gnome?
[09:20] <computer> thnx!
[09:21] <GuteX> Okay
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211936
[09:22] <brais> ho problemi con compiz...c'è qulcuno che mi dà una mano
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> !it | brais
[09:22] <GuteX> Well i wasn't supposed to end up in this channel but nice to see all ? marks, i have been there to but now i google and read in several forums for info!
[09:22] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> GuteX: lil side note, there is more than google
[09:23] <GuteX> I know, google and forums and ofc here to =)
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> GuteX: ask and msn search here as well
[09:24] <powertool08> Does anyone know how to fix the error "bad service request ssh-connection" in putty when attempting to connect to linux ssh server?
[09:24] <bluelight> anyone know how to separate the 'all-mail' folder in gmail, so that this folder will not keep all mail?
[09:25] <Dabbu> i am using firestarter to share my internet but when the client user try to connect there is some "lander error"
[09:25] <Dabbu> any help
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: you running openssh-server?
[09:25] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: yes
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: is it running?
[09:25] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: yes
[09:26] <GuteX> Nice to see that ppl help other ppl, i started a few years ago to try Linux and went to a place like this but then all ppl said GO GOOGLE and throw me out from the place!
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> bluelight: id create folders and filters if thats what you mean
[09:26] <GuteX> I will perhaps come back if i need help or info =)
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> GuteX: thats why its called a community
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: is that from a windows box to your linux box?
[09:27] <GuteX> Nice talking to you!
[09:27] <GuteX> *gone
[09:27] <bluelight> ActionParsnip, i am using IMAP, filter rules only create symbolic links.  the actual maill still sits inside 'all-mail' folder. i know there are lots of hacks book written for gmail
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: do you mean bad service request ssl-connection??
[09:27] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I had it setup to authenticate with pubkey first and fallback to password, password login was working, I thought pubkey was as so I disabled passworded logins and I get that error trying to connect
[09:27] <nnull> anyone know how id make an open in firefox right click for selected data to be saved to a specified .txt file?
[09:27] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: no, ssh-connection
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> bluelight: im not that knowledgable, i just use the web mail, sorry
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: ok gimme a sec
[09:28] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: and yes, putty is the ssh client on a laptop attempting to connect to ssh server on linux box
[09:28] <bluelight> ActionParsnip, same thing. web mail does the same
[09:28] <TShik> Hi, Interest in Computers Go to: http://exesoftware.blogspot.com
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: can you ssh to localhost on the linux box?
[09:29] <jing-jang> :)
[09:29] <jing-jang> morning :)
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> hi jing-jang
[09:29] <jing-jang> hi there :) nice cold wet morning :D
[09:29] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: yes
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: you running any sort of firewall?
[09:30] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I don't think so, just hardy defaults
[09:30] <computer> pdf editor just crashes on me. is there any other program out there that edits pdf files ?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> computer: try resolving the crash
[09:30] <jing-jang> so even in linux software can crush ???
[09:31] <computer> how
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> jing-jang: all software can crash
[09:31] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I don't think its a firewall problem because it was working beforehand and the only change I made was to disable passworded logins and only accept public key authentication
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> computer: check your crash logs and see whats going on
[09:31] <datune> What's the preferred package manager for Kubuntu? Adept? Or is there a better alternative?
[09:31] <computer> where
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: then you havent made the key right or maybe got the right key. Ive not done it with keys before I just use passwords
[09:31] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I think my keys are setup correctly because I don't get a failed key error
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> !logs
[09:32] <jing-jang> ActionParsnip: it is logical but i heard only the best about linux so i wasnt expecting that :D after a day i managed to run and set up irc so i hope i wont crash :D
[09:32] <SoulHeal> hello, i'm about to instal ubuntu on my computer and i want to talk to someone for some help
[09:32] <natalisushka> HI, anyone knows a good program that rips DVDs into AVI or something?
[09:33] <seekingtruth> hello sinners
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> computer: run /usr/bin/gnome-system-log looks like it should give you an app. I dont use gnome so i cant clarify
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> !ask | SoulHeal
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> natalisushka: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+dvd+to+avi&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
[09:34] <nnull> anyone know how id make an open in firefox right click for selected data to be saved to a specified .txt file?
[09:35] <SoulHeal> sorry, my question is how can i convert all of my mp3's to a format that ubuntu supports?
[09:35] <LSD|Ninja> SoulHeal: why bother?
[09:35] <timob> sox?
[09:35] <frangko> i've got problem with wine, after i install software, it failed, and wine cannot run anymore,
[09:35] <natalisushka> ActionParsnip, I know how to google, I want to ask about peoples opinion here and see what's best among all tried
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> SoulHeal: ubuntu can play mp3s
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> natalisushka: ive never done it myself but there are literaly thousands of apps out there, see which you lik
[09:36] <zcat[1]> help required; I need something that can run in the background and take periodic screenshots. gnome-screenshot won't as far as I can tell, it insists on bringing up a dialog and I can't find any way around it.
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> zcat[1]: cron a job with imagemagik
[09:36] <frangko> after that i uninstall it, with apt-get remove --purge wine, and i install again, but now in menu wine , the program Files menu disapear, why
[09:37] <zcat[1]> ActionParsnip: how? I spent ages trying to figure it out and it seems to have the same problem; it insists on me selecting an area of the screen!
[09:37] <computer> then?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> frangko: try sudo apt-get --reinstall install wine
[09:37] <timob> SoulHeal: graphical or command line?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> zcat[1]: http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-take-a-screenshot-on-ubuntu-linux
[09:38] <LSD|Ninja> Better to just make Ubuntu play MP3 than convert your somgs from one lossy format to another
[09:38] <timob> but you may be breaking the law....
[09:38]  * ActionParsnip rocks out to judas priest ;)
[09:39] <LSD|Ninja> timob: oh boo hoo
[09:39] <zcat[1]> Thank you!! -window root was what I couldn't figure out!
[09:39] <SoulHeal> so i won't have a problem listening to mp3 songs?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> zcat[1]: image magick kicks ass, really good for resizing and format conversions
[09:39] <LSD|Ninja> SoulHeal: install ubuntu-restricted-extras, that'll install the most common stuff
[09:40] <zcat[1]> been driving me nuts though.. the man page seemed to be saying -root and that wasn't working
[09:40] <timob> SoulHeal: no problem just have to install the software to do so
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> SoulHeal: open amarok and try play an mp3, if you dont have the right stuff installed it will offer it to you
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> SoulHeal: theres a bazillion mp3 players
[09:40] <timob> but try to use ogg... you will feel better
[09:40] <steveydoteu> how does one add another nick to the same nickserv ident
[09:40] <zcat[1]> sorry, no.. -screen but that wasn't working ..
[09:40] <LSD|Ninja> timob: meh
[09:41] <SoulHeal> what about winamp? will mp3's work automaticly with that?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> timob: few portable audio devices support ogg vorbis
[09:41] <Serway> timob, lol
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> SoulHeal: you wont have winamp on your linux box
[09:41] <timob> ActionParsnip: mine does... iaudio u3.... great player
[09:41] <zcat[1]> anyway, I have what I need now .. bloody hard to get screenshots of some programs when they take over the keyboard, eg frets on fire or stepmania ..
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> timob: iaudio love ogg :D
[09:41] <scuser> hi all, I've installed lustre on three machines, I've added some files in the lustre file system, I can access them from the client but I can't access them from the OST any help ?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> zcat[1]: frets on fire is fun
[09:42] <zcat[1]> Yes, which is why we want the screenshot on our big SFD poster
[09:43] <zcat[1]> btw anyone else here doing stuff for sfd?
[09:43] <LSD|Ninja> sfd?
[09:43] <zcat[1]> software freedom day
[09:43] <LSD|Ninja> lol, no
[09:43] <zcat[1]> the day after tlapd
[09:44] <illixil> fuck linux pisses me off =[
[09:44] <zcat[1]> !ohmy
[09:44] <LSD|Ninja> illixil: hahaha
[09:44] <vallhalla81> !ipod
[09:45] <illixil> i'm used to windows
[09:45] <illixil> grew up on windows
[09:45] <illixil> trying to figure out linux
[09:45] <illixil> makes me want to pull my hair out
[09:45] <nnull> can someone tell me how id launch a terminal program in firefox, like instead of using Evolution for mailto: i want to use a terminal mail client.   ???
[09:45] <MrKennie> language please
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> zcat[1]: try mesuggah in your frets of fire for a real challenge
[09:45] <zcat[1]> I feel the same way about windows..
[09:45] <SoulHeal> i don't have much experience with internet connections because i have internet through a router and it's a bit harder, will i have problems setting the connection in ubuntu?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: wassup?
[09:45] <vallhalla81> !RockBo
[09:45] <illixil> nothin
[09:45] <nnull> sorry i have an alias setup, does the system save alias's anywhere that can be used as links???
[09:45] <vallhalla81> !RockBox
[09:45] <illixil> tryin to get wine to work
[09:46] <PaulPotter> Hi all
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: bit more specific would be great
[09:46] <zcat[1]> ahhh.. wine doesn't work. give up and find a linux-native program instead
[09:46] <illixil> well i'm trying to open an exe and from what i've heard wine is the way to go
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: usually in ~/.bashrc if you only use bash
[09:46] <nnull> ok ActionParsnip
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: theres crossover office and cedega too if you want
[09:47] <PaulPotter> Does a util for exist for Linux that will read the data from an Outlook Express wab file? Can not access Windows on this machine.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: what you trying to run?
[09:47] <SoulHeal> can someone answer my question please?
[09:47] <illixil> WoW installer
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> !wow | illixil
[09:47] <timob> nnull: does system->preferred applications let you change your mailto?
[09:47] <seano1> Wow, busy in here
[09:47] <nnull> timob, yea mate
[09:48] <mamoru> how to update clamtk 3.08 to 3.09?
[09:48] <zcat[1]> Hmmm.. I got Wow running in wine, but only by copying it over from windows. once it's there is seems to run pretty well.
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[09:48] <nnull> im currently making (select data) (right click) auto play in espeak :D
[09:48] <MasterFruityLoop> Hola.
[09:48] <MasterFruityLoop> Users?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: in linux youll do a LOT of websearching to get where you want
[09:48] <MasterFruityLoop> ActionParsnipTrue.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> PaulPotter: http://www.lockergnome.com/it/2007/07/12/thunderbird-and-wab-file-importing/
[09:49] <seano1> can anyone help me with a grub win dual-boot problem?
[09:49] <MasterFruityLoop> ActionParsnip: True.
[09:49] <MasterFruityLoop> Haha
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> MasterFruityLoop: only initially
[09:49] <timob> seano: whats up?
[09:49] <nnull> if i can just find this alias.... :D
[09:49] <illixil> okay im not even 10 lines in and im already lost
[09:49] <illixil> its asking me to run a command
[09:49] <PaulPotter> Cheers Action. I take it this can entirely work from Linux?
[09:49] <MasterFruityLoop> illixil: Me too.
[09:49] <zcat[1]> only if you're going against the grain. pick well supported hardware and use native, packaged software and linux is totally easy
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: you can set your own
[09:49] <illixil> glxinfo | grep rendering
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> PaulPotter: should do
[09:49] <nnull> ActionParsnip, set my own what mate?
[09:49] <MasterFruityLoop> Peace.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: alias
[09:50] <zcat[1]> linux isn't windows. don't expect running windows progams to be easy
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: alias home='cd ~/'
[09:50] <nnull> yea i have made one, now im trying to find it :) a search from / didnt work :s
[09:50] <illixil> yeah
[09:50] <bakarat> anyone have any experience with installing ubuntu on a dell vostro? (just wondering)
[09:50] <illixil> i want to get away from windows but its damn near impossible
[09:50] <illixil> i needed windows to get linux
[09:50] <timob> macosx?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> bakarat: dell use farly supported hardware, check !hcl for if it'll work
[09:50] <illixil> i prefer linux over mac...
[09:50] <bakarat> !hcl
[09:51] <illixil> and i've never used linux before tonight
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> mac os is ok, mac hardware is expensive
[09:51] <nnull> ActionParsnip, when i make a alias using alias in terminal where does the system save a file of that alias??? i cant find it
[09:51] <remoteCTR1> after hadry install i ahve an all black sceen, no cursor no nothing, why is tha so??
[09:51] <timob> nnull: it doesnt ... its just for that shell session
[09:51] <nnull> omg seriously
[09:51] <zcat[1]> remoteCTR1: try pressing ctrl-alt-F1
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: boot to recovery mode and hit fix xorg.conf
[09:52] <scuser> hi all, can I make a lustre OST and a lustre client on the same machine ?
[09:52] <nnull> how to i make a perm alias?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: i dunno where it saves it, i just know how to set them
[09:52] <PaulPotter> Action: Hmm, DOS program. This is getting rather silly. Trust M$ to screw things up for us.
[09:52] <timob> nnull: where do u want to use the alias?
[09:52] <mo7> nnull, add it to .bashrc, for example ..
[09:52] <remoteCTR1> i did the f1 thing, console is working
[09:52] <zcat[1]> remoteCTR1: cool, what ActionParsnip said then. try that!
[09:52] <unop> nnull, I beleive ubuntu has a ~/.bash_aliases
[09:52] <nnull> mo7 i need to make a link of some kind that spawns the alias tho
[09:52] <remoteCTR1> and on tty7 monitor says going to sleep:D
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: open up ~/.bashrc in your favourite text editor and add the alias there, it will be permanent
[09:53] <zcat[1]> remoteCTR1: yes, your resolutions are messed up..
[09:53] <zcat[1]> !res
[09:53] <nnull> ok thx same format as in terminal?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: when grub tells you its loading, press ESC
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: huh?
[09:53] <unop> nnull, yea
[09:53] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip i know hot to get to the boot menu, thx:)
[09:53] <nnull> ok cheers
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: i didnt know, just covering all bases
[09:54] <Jaknap> Hello
[09:54] <SoulHeal> when i create the partition for linux must i make it logical or primary?
[09:54] <cernex> Hey, anybody has experience with enlightment here?
[09:54] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: i am a systems administrator for unix at our local university:)
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> SoulHeal: yes
[09:54] <zcat[1]> SoulHeal: yes, one or the other. I don't think it matters
[09:55] <cernex> And... reasons why Gnome might be freezing up, but not Enlightment?
[09:55] <seano1> haven't achieved it yet cernex :)
[09:55] <cernex> I mean... I don't get it
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: again, i assume nothing due to the number of linux noobs who come in here
[09:55] <Jaknap> Every time my ubuntu 8.04 LTS at the time of shutdown it hangs up.
[09:55] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: ya that is kewl by me i was also just telling;)
[09:55] <cernex> seano1, lol
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> Jaknap: does it do it with shudo shutdown -h now
[09:55] <zcat[1]> ubuntu is the preferred distro of newbs so we don't assume much here
[09:55] <illixil> glxinfo | grep rendering
[09:55] <cernex> I'm talking about e17
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: do that in terminal
[09:56] <illixil> yeah i did
[09:56] <Jaknap> No, actually when I press shutdown it hangs up. Then there is no other tabs active for shutdown
[09:56] <illixil> i was trying to show everything it came up with
[09:56] <cernex> I can't get to configure the sound in Enlightment, were for some reason, the sound is terribly low
[09:56] <illixil> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[09:56] <cernex> And, something that worries me
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: dont paste swathes of text in here, use pastein
[09:56] <illixil> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo | grep rendering
[09:56] <illixil> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[09:56] <illixil> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
[09:56] <illixil> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hard.list -o /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[09:56] <illixil> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ wget -q http://wine/budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263/gpg -o- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:56] <FloodBot1> illixil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:56] <illixil> sugpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> oh god
[09:56] <frangko> ActionParsnip1 : still same, my program files menu on wine disappear
[09:57] <cernex> Is that GNOME froze up 6 times IN A ROW!
[09:57] <cernex> For no apparent reason!
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | illixil
[09:57] <zcat[1]> ActionParsnip: no need, floodbot takes care of it
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: thats a REALLY good way to get banned
[09:57] <cernex> I mean, I'm running the same programs on e17 than the ones I was running on GNOME
[09:57] <arooni-mobile> the mplayer plugin for firefox 3 on ubuntu hardy doesnt work at all for playing streaming .wmv files..... what is an an alternative?  and how do i use it?
[09:57] <Jaknap> Maximum times in between it hangs up. Menus don't work but I can able to click on desktop icons.
[09:57] <cernex> But no freeze
[09:57] <cernex> I dun get it
[09:57] <snake> Greetings all.  Novice user with a really easy question.  I just booted off the 8.04 CD and installed it to my hard drive, but opted NOT to install a boot loader.  I want to create a floppy disk for if I want to boot into linux -- or can I pass boot commands using the install CD instead?  I do not want to change the MBR
[09:57] <snake> I know I used to boot off a floppy a long time ago, but I forget how now
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> cernex: tried fluxbox?
[09:57] <illixil> okay here
[09:57] <illixil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/42642/
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> snake: edit bios to have first boot device as floppy to boot from floppy
[09:58] <koshari> cernex possably the mixer in gnome may e the prob? who knows it could be a number of things
[09:58] <remoteCTR1> zcat i know which is why i am installing it for them noobs*g*
[09:58] <zcat[1]> what's a floppy? People still use those?!
[09:58] <snake> ActionParsnip1: Oh I understand this -- but how do I create a boot disk?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: you dont have 3d support on your graphics card
[09:58] <cernex> Well, I don't want to get back to gnome...
[09:58] <illixil> but i do
[09:58] <cernex> The thing will freeze up again
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> snake: www.bootdisk.com
[09:58] <snake> like dont I have to tell it what my boot device is, and the kernel file
[09:58] <cernex> Shouldn't it be possible to do the same on e17 than on GNOME?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: you havent installed it.  Can anyone help?
[09:59] <illixil> whytf is it so complicated
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: im sure you cant play games too great in windows withhout going to nvidia.com and getting the latest drivers can you? same deal
[10:00] <illixil> yeah actually
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: its not complicated, there are masses of docs around the place
[10:00] <illixil> everything on windows was pretty much plug and play
[10:00] <illixil> alright brb
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: t wont run as well as with the nvidia drivers
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: its all "plug and play" because the suppport in microsoft is much larger as companies have seen they will make more money from microsoft based ustomer
[10:01] <nnull> how can i make a launchable terminal program with click in gnome?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> illixil: so they plough more money there
[10:01] <nnull> i need a file that like points to a program
[10:01] <Jaknap> No, actually when I press shutdown it hangs up. Then there is no other tabs active for shutdown
[10:01] <nnull> or an alias
[10:01] <seano1> anyone want to help with my dual boot grub prob?
[10:02] <nnull> seano1, just ask if anyone knows u might get a snag
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: i think if you create a symbolic link to the binary, you can right click it -> properties and select run interminal
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> !grub | sean
[10:02] <nnull> ActionParsnip1, so i wouldnt be able to make one to the alias?
[10:02] <zcat[1]> ActionParsnip1: not really. try installing something you don't have the driver CD for ... in Linux some hardware is a bit difficult. In windows if you don't have the drivers (eg manufacturer never updated them) it's simply impossible..
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: should be able to (i believe) try it
[10:03] <scuser> hi all, can anyone help me with lustre stripping ?
[10:03] <nnull> !symbolic links
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> zcat[1]: but you can hit the manufacturers site and you know they'll have a windows driver, not so many with linux drivers
[10:04] <cherva> how to update virtual box 1.5.6 to 1.6.4 ? if i try to install the new deb file there is an error "Previous version detected" and ask me to remove it ... if I remove the old version will I loose my existing virtual machines ?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: ln -s alias /path/to/where/you/want/it
[10:04] <seano1> think I've been through plenty of howtos by now, but still not working.  I'm trying to get NTLDR to load ubuntu from a boot sector file
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> seano1: did you install windows then linux?
[10:05] <zcat[1]> ActionParsnip1: I have quite a lot of hardware here that simply has no drivers, they dropped the download since they no longer sell that hardware, sometimes the manuf. isn't even in business any more..
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: or you could create a bash script to run the alias
[10:05] <seano1> WinXP on disk 1, linux on new disk 2
[10:05] <nnull> to run it?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> seano1: so you are shown grub when you boot?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: sure
[10:05] <zcat[1]> .. and in windows there's simply no option at all.. but most of that hardware works OTB in linux
[10:06] <seano1> following a howto I installed after disconnecting 1st drive so MBR wouldn't be overwritten
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> zcat[1]: some does, some doesnt, it all depends
[10:06] <nnull> i dont know what u mate mate
[10:06] <seano1> linux boots fine with 1st drive disconnected, but not otherwise
[10:06] <sabrewulf> is the compiz snowman plugin available for hardy yet?  or is that scheduled for ibis?
[10:06] <arooni-mobile> on my t61 laptop running hardy... sometimes my audio just goes away randomly... a reboot usually fixes it.  ideaz?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> seano1: then the numbering in you menu.lst is wrong
[10:07] <zcat[1]> ActionParsnip1: well, I tend to pick up hardware from WIndows users because they updated or reinstalled and can't find the drivers to make it work... I get a lot of hardware that way and most of it works fine in linux
[10:07] <MrKennie> seano1: perhaps changing the boot order in the bios
[10:07] <antian> for some reason, i just reinstalled ubuntu, and after restarting after an update.  the xserver won't come up.  i get a could not create server lock file message.  i've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to no avail.  using hardy.  not sure why it won't start
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> sabrewulf: head to #compiz
[10:07] <seano1> I thought that, so I changed it, but no joy
[10:07] <MrKennie> seano1: I see
[10:07] <MrKennie> seano1: ok
[10:07] <seano1> bios only allows 1st drive as boot device
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> nnull: check my pm
[10:07] <nnull> ActionParsnip1, what . extention should i use if i want to make it a launchable link
[10:07] <nnull> okie
[10:07] <sabrewulf> action> i headed here as i was asking if its been packaged up yet...  you know - apt-get install ?
[10:08] <MrKennie> seano1: I could be wrong, but you will probably have to install grub on the first drive
[10:08] <abdalla> hello
[10:08] <seano1> yep, MrK I know I *could* do that :)
[10:08] <antian> could someone help me troubleshoot my xserver ?  it will not start.  fully updated system fresh install.  could not create lock file in /tmp error message, then shortly afterwards quits.
[10:08] <seano1> I could also swap the order of the drives and fiddle with the Windows entry in Grub, but Windows gets upset easily
[10:09] <abdalla> HELLO
[10:09] <MrKennie> seano1: I don't dual boot so I'm not really that experiences but I would guess grub-install, man grub-install
[10:09] <CommanderOne> Hey
[10:10] <abdalla> HEY
[10:10] <_ruben> !caps
[10:10] <bazhang> abdalla, do you have an ubuntu support question
[10:10] <CommanderOne> Oh, I have one! xD
[10:10] <abdalla> yes
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> sabrewulf: no idea man, i dont use it
[10:10] <seano1> is grub-install any different from doing it via grub shell?
[10:10] <abdalla> i made gnome to auto-login
[10:11] <MrKennie> seano1: it's probably the easiest
[10:11] <CommanderOne> Would anyone be able to help me with enabling Compiz-fusion? I think I disabled it >_<
[10:11] <abdalla> then the keyboard layout switching don't work
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> CommanderOne: head over to #compiz
[10:11] <CommanderOne> Thank you muchly, have a good day!
[10:12] <MrKennie> !grub
[10:12] <MrKennie> seano1: checked any of those out?
[10:13] <ilovefedora> hello, can someone point me to a tutorial on how to update php on ubuntu server!
[10:13] <nnnulll> :xx crashlah
[10:13] <MrKennie> !php
[10:13] <MrKennie> probably not what you need actually, heh
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> ilovefedora: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:14] <seano1> I hadn't read those, but I've followed the exact same steps from other howtos
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> ilovefedora: thatll update everything on the system
[10:14] <abdalla>  i made gnome to auto-login then the keyboard layout switching doesn't work at all , can anyone help me ??!!
[10:15] <AdvoWork> Hi there, if ive got: 10205620 much free space, how much is that? is that KB or?
[10:15] <illixil> alrigt
[10:15] <illixil> i've got some coffee brewing
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> AdvoWork: use df -h instead
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> AdvoWork: or du -h
[10:15] <illixil> ill stay up all night if thats what it takes to get linux down
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> whichever you fired up
[10:15] <ilovefedora> thanks action parsnip1
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> AdvoWork: -h == humanly readable
[10:16] <thefish>  -h == happy camper
[10:16] <AdvoWork> ahh thanks for the df -h   never knew that
[10:16] <zhengleishan> hai all
[10:16] <thefish> hi zhengleishan
[10:17] <ilovefedora> ActionParsnip1: is there a command to see what is installed and what versions
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> AdvoWork: you have learned something new, and can now spread that knowledge to others :D
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> ilovefedora: dpkg -l | less
[10:17] <mrgrim> ok i have a crappy computer an cd drive dosent wann work any way i can install unbuntu
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> ilovefedora: or
[10:18] <abdalla> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5711353#post5711353
[10:18] <thefish> mrgrim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> ilovefedora: dpkg -l > ~/apps.txt; gedit ~/apps.txt
[10:19] <Mushrooms> Hi all, I have a question regarding the Terminal Server Client for remote desktops.
[10:19] <seano1> hmm...in grub is there any (effective) difference between 'setup (hd1)'  and 'setup (hd1,0)'?
[10:20] <AdvoWork> another query... say ive got (for a few months before i migrate all to linux) 10 client machines, which all have a mapped drive to our windows server. Im moving the files to my linux server, so need to map from win machine - linux server, so the win client can do say \\linuxserver\files  is that possible?
[10:20] <ilovefedora> ActionParsnip1: you reading the hidden manual?
[10:20] <zhengleishan> I am chinese boy
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> ilovefedora: its in my head
[10:20] <bazhang> !cn
[10:20] <error404notfound> how can I setup my ssh such that it doesn't ask me for key everytime I connect to a new server, or avoid the warning that the keys has been changed
[10:20] <thefish> seano1: afair its hd{disk},{partition}
[10:20] <MrKennie> seano1: (hd1,0) refers to your first partition
[10:20] <bazhang> zhengleishan, /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> ilovefedora: as you use a system you get used to stuff
[10:20] <zhengleishan> bazhang: thanks
[10:20] <djamel> AdvoWork, yes it's possible with Samba
[10:21] <thefish> AdvoWork: yes, with samba
[10:21] <thefish> :)
[10:21] <djamel> :)
[10:21] <thefish> damn fast typists
[10:21] <djamel> hahaha
[10:21] <seano1> yeah, I know what it *means*, but what does it actually *do* that's different?
[10:21] <AdvoWork> ahh ok, easy enough to do? and do you need to re-map each time?
[10:21] <thefish> seano1: it looks on a different partition?
[10:21] <ilovefedora> ActionParsnip1: im trying to install magento commerce but it says i have an invalid php version and need to update