[03:35] <dooglus> ubermonzie: for the record you do: edit -> changes -> record changes
[03:35] <ubermonzie> check our linuxbangalore.org pfp
[03:35] <ubermonzie> thanks dooglus
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> ahan indian
[03:35] <spanglesontoast> how can I mount an iso as a disk?
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> :P
[03:35] <dr_willis> medkit,  could be i always give root a password for more normal logins.. may want to check the cups.org site and docs. Ive had Little if any problems with cups.
[03:35] <ubermonzie> yes St0n3-C0l
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> m paki :-D
[03:35] <pfp> ubermonzie: hmm, site not found
[03:36] <ubermonzie> you have to mount it as loopback filesystem dear spanglesontoast
[03:36] <MistaED> hey has anyone tried to make ubuntu use a bootsplash?
[03:36] <Fator_Dee> spanglesontoast: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/isofile /media/iso
[03:36] <St0n3-C0l> anyone here with i810 ??
[03:36] <spanglesontoast> ah
[03:36] <dr_willis> MistaED,  ive heard of people TRYING.. :P but thats it..
[03:36] <spanglesontoast> is it a normal process?
[03:36] <St0n3-C0l> not yet MistaED
[03:36] <Fator_Dee> spanglesontoast: and make sure you have that /media/iso directory created
[03:36] <MistaED> trying, and no replies back? lol
[03:36] <dooglus> in openoffice, when I hit a cursor key, the cursor moves, as expected, but it takes about 3 seconds to do it.
[03:36] <St0n3-C0l> i think u shud check wiki.ubuntu.com Artwork
[03:36] <ubermonzie> its http://linux-bangalore.org/ dear pfp
[03:36] <dooglus> anyone else seeing that?
[03:36] <Fator_Dee> spanglesontoast: or if you wnat to mount it to elsewhere, just point it to that directory
[03:37] <dr_willis> dooglus,  nope - works good for me.
[03:37] <spanglesontoast> ah ok
[03:37] <ubermonzie> depends on your oo build dooglus
[03:37] <dooglus> ubermonzie: I'm using hoary
[03:37] <luxo_> MistaED: i boot it only once a time and i want to see everything is [ok]  :)
[03:37] <ubermonzie> the Debian build is better than the  others dooglus
[03:38] <ubermonzie> you must be having slow hardware then dooglus
[03:38] <dooglus> ubermonzie: does hoary come with a debian build?
[03:38] <dooglus> ubermonzie: I don't think so.
[03:38] <ubermonzie> bye guys ... i gotta go!
[03:38] <ubermonzie> see ya later
[03:38] <thoreauputic> bye ubermonzie
[03:38] <Fator_Dee> bye
[03:38] <dooglus> ubermonzie: everything else reacts immediately, and the CPU is contantly very near idle.
[03:38] <MistaED> a good looking bootup is nice though, with some verbose still
[03:38] <MistaED> a progress bar is just crap
[03:39] <medkit> dr_willis, i overlooked a nice reminder on top of the http://localhost:631/ page: adminstrative commands are disabled from webbrowser for security reasons. Please use GNOME CUPS Manager. I never managed a printer get to work with the gnome panel. But surely with CUPS webfrontend.
[03:40] <dr_willis> medkit,  Lol. :P  I edited the cups config to enable the webbrowser feature.
[03:40] <dr_willis> medkit,  Ubuntu Security paranoia. :P and thats a good thing I guess.
[03:40] <dooglus> are there any tools in ubuntu to see why an app might be running slow?
[03:40] <dooglus> I know about 'top' (that shows that the cpu is idle)
[03:40] <roshlame> anyone ever started mplayer on an ubuntu system?
[03:40] <dooglus> what else could it be, if not a cpu bottleneck?
[03:41] <dr_willis> mplayer works good here.
[03:41] <MistaED> there's system monitor, dooglus
[03:41] <pfp> dooglus: 'vmstat 1' on a terminal
[03:41] <MistaED> i think in applications > something > system monitor
[03:41] <dooglus> thanks guys.
[03:41] <medkit> dr_willis, please tell me where the cups config resides and i'll be happy ever after
[03:41] <dooglus> system monitor shows me the same as top, along with memory usage?
[03:42] <roshlame> I get no movie window and i get no sound unless i kill esd
[03:42] <Fator_Dee> medkit: /etc/cups/ ?
[03:42] <dr_willis> medkit,  heh /etc/cups/ I think :P the logical place.
[03:42] <medkit> *pat*
[03:42] <dr_willis> medkit,  cups is very well documented at their homepage.  :P
[03:42] <pfp> roshlame: use esd as your output method (-ao esd)
[03:42] <medkit> dr_willis, right, thanx, sure, a blockade of mine
[03:42] <pfp> roshlame: or better yet, use totem-xine and some plugins
[03:43] <dooglus> pfp: wow, thanks!  vmstat 1 fixed it!  you're some kind of magician :)
[03:43] <reka> just to confirm, w32codecs is no longer in the repos right?
[03:44] <dr_willis> medkit,  i think its in the cupsd.conf - and i have a line like -->  Listen <IP_ADDRESS>:631
[03:44] <Fator_Dee> reka: has it been at some time?
[03:44] <thoreauputic> reka: was it ever? I thought only marillat and such had it?
[03:44] <Fator_Dee> reka: I don't remember it ever been on ubuntus repos
[03:44] <roshlame> pfp, thanks
[03:44] <pfp> dooglus: heh, no prob :)
[03:44] <reka> thoreauputic: ah, my mistake.  that's probably it. :-)
[03:44] <St0n3-C0l> anyone using i810 :(
[03:44] <St0n3-C0l> 3d acceleration not workin
[03:45] <Fator_Dee> reka: only in marillat and backports (remember to edit them out after you used them!)
[03:45] <dooglus> pfp: very odd.  it was really slow - a 3 second response time just to move the cursor in oo.org.  now it's fine!
[03:45] <dr_willis> heh an i810 aint got much 3d to accell anyway. :P
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> but still on other distros
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> CSmash was working perfect !
[03:45] <reka> Fator_Dee: yep, i commented marillat out.  thanks.
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> on ubuntu it's hanging alot
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> no direct rendering
[03:46] <bino> I can't burn cd in Ubuntu. whenever I insert a blank cd and try to open it, a "Mount Error" dialog displays. I don't know why.
[03:46] <dr_willis> a blank cd cant be mounted. since theres no file system.
[03:46] <pfp> dooglus: maybe some high disk i/o? that usually slows my system down
[03:47] <Fator_Dee> bino: open the cd-burner from nautilus
[03:47] <dr_willis> i was thinking hwoever that gnome poped up some burning cd tool when ever i put in a blank cd.. (which was annoying) :P
[03:47] <St0n3-C0l> bino: mount is not required to burn a cd
[03:47] <Fator_Dee> bino: or use graveman or gnomebaker, or some other program
[03:47] <St0n3-C0l> cd-burner is annoying :P
[03:47] <morita> hello i can't listen to mp3...help
[03:47] <pfp> should probably tune somehthing in the (2.6.x) kernel
[03:47] <St0n3-C0l> I once inserted the cd and it's continiously saying "Please insert the CD and Press OKAY" and in gnomebaker..it worked perfectly
[03:48] <dooglus> pfp: nope, no disk IO at all.  it's not even swapping yet.
[03:48] <dr_willis> also i recall that for SOME reason 'dma' was disabled on my cdburner by default.. i had to  enable it.
[03:48] <reka> morita: what program?
[03:48] <thoreauputic> morita: install gstreamer0.8-mad from universe repo and use rhythmbox (music player)
[03:48] <dooglus> pfp: that's not the first time I've seen it - firefox sometimes misbehaves too
[03:48] <pfp> dooglus: so it got fixed just by running vmstat?
[03:48] <bino> Fator_Dee, when I click the "Add files" in GnomeBaker, nothing happens, why?
[03:48] <dooglus> pfp: almost certainly not.  but it got fixed at the same time as I ran vmstat.
[03:49] <St0n3-C0l> bino: Try graveman
[03:49] <dr_willis> morita,  check the ubuntu faq/wiki - they tell more details on this issue, if you want. :P
[03:49] <dooglus> pfp: and it's still fixed now that I've stopped running vmstat
[03:49] <Fikrann> bino, or k3b
[03:49] <nihao> can't download http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-backports/main/ binary-i386/Packages.gz  401 Authorization Required
[03:49] <bino> OK.
[03:49] <Fator_Dee> bino: have you selected the files to add?
[03:49] <m0r0n> I often get the message "Could not open vfs file" when attempting to play a stream from shoutcast. Any idea how to fix it?
[03:49] <dooglus> does gnome have any way of showing "most used applications" in the start menu, like kde does?
[03:49] <nihao> ?? backports don't work today??? but ping the site works
[03:50] <pfp> dooglus: it's known as "treatment by light" - open the hood, and problem disappears :)
[03:50] <St0n3-C0l> nihao: use other mirrors
[03:50] <bino> Fator_Dee, thank you.
[03:50] <Fator_Dee> pfp: the little gremlins are afraid of the light and they go away :-)
[03:50] <Fikrann> nihao, use backports mirror
[03:50] <dooglus> pfp: I've seen the same phenomenum lots of times when debugging software...  run a buggy app inside the debugger and the bug goes away.  run it normally and the bug comes back
[03:50] <St0n3-C0l> I also noticed this problem and it was giving '403 Forbidden' error to me
[03:51] <bino> Fator_Dee, I thought I should click "Add files" first. : )
[03:51] <Fator_Dee> bino: :-)
[03:51] <pfp> Fator_Dee: jep:)
[03:51] <nihao> OK, I will try.
[03:51] <thoreauputic> backports has been having bandwidth issues, I believe
[03:52] <dooglus> thoreauputic: why?
[03:52] <pfp> some sites make firefox use all CPU time w/ their mere existence... eg. mininova.org IIRC
[03:53] <medkit> dr_willis, browsing right now through cupsd.conf. But i don't want to edit the listenig port, i want to enable doing administrative tasks  over browser
[03:53] <thoreauputic> dooglus: versioning problems, broken updates etc
[03:53] <pfp> that would show up in top though
[03:53] <thoreauputic> dooglus: much grief for many when they upgraded to Hoary
[03:53] <dr_willis> medkit,  i think they disabled the listening. :P is how they disabled it.. not sure really - been a few mo since i messed with it.
[03:54] <Fikrann> medkit, the gnome cups tool worked quite well for me.
[03:55] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I never tried it, was interested to hear why you don't recommend it.  thanks.
[03:55] <dooglus> thoreauputic: what *would* you recommend as a temporary source to get, say, win32 codecs?
[03:55] <MistaED> does anyone know why esd/arts/whatever has a sound cpu overload and a way to stop it?
[03:55] <dooglus> MistaED: I stoped using esd.  I used alsa instead.
[03:55] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: marillat?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I used marillat testing - but I commented it out right away after I got the codecs
[03:56] <reka> dooglus: i'm contemplating using the mplayer codecs instead.
[03:56] <daush> hello
[03:56] <MistaED> dooglus: yeah i set it to use alsa in the control center, but i still get the errors
[03:56] <daush> ^4 question
[03:56] <medkit> Fikrann, lucky you. I have tried the panel on various debian version but it NEVER ever worked.
[03:56] <Fator_Dee> thoreauputic: or you can fetch it directly from the site :-p
[03:56] <daush> INSTALL ubuntu and they not reconize my MOuse!!!!!!!!!!
[03:56] <Fator_Dee> just browse through, no biggie :-)
[03:56] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: yes, ideed
[03:56] <thoreauputic> *indeed
[03:56] <daush> INSTALL ubuntu and they not reconize my MOuse!!!!!!!!!! what i have to do?
[03:56] <dooglus> reka: I downloaded the mplayer codecs, but I don't know how to get mplayer to use them
[03:57] <thoreauputic> daush: first, calm down
[03:57] <morita> you should unload upda!!!te
[03:57] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: just install them, mplayer should find 'em
[03:57] <daush> oka
[03:57] <daush> :D
[03:57] <morita> you should unload update!!!
[03:57] <reka> dooglus: hmm. can't help you with that i'm afraid.  i use the underrated totem :-)
[03:58] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: or what do you mean with "mplayer codecs?"
[03:58] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: can you give me an url?
[03:58] <reka> Fator_Dee: http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html
[03:59] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[03:59] <GaZZoo> I don't understand why VLC wan't the default player ... I seared all around trying to make the others be able to play divx , xvid etc .. and VLC JUST WORKS ... right out of the box ...
[03:59] <reka> related link: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[03:59] <Fator_Dee> oh those, aren't they just the same that come in w32codecs, just put them in where the w32codecs package would put them
[04:00] <Fator_Dee> I think it's /usr/lib/win32/
[04:00] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I think they should live in /usr/lib/win32 as Fator_Dee says
[04:01] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: yes, dpkg -L w32codecs confirms that
[04:01] <Fator_Dee> (yes, and I checked it before with locate win32 :-p)
[04:01] <dooglus> thoreauputic: oh, ok
[04:02] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: :)
[04:02] <daush> hey ubuntu don works with mouse that jas the jack oldest then ps2?
[04:02] <Shinaku> Uh ok, helping a friend install Ubuntu on his box
[04:02] <Shinaku> and it's locked up at "testing network repositories"
[04:02] <pfp> dooglus: i dont know if someone already pasted this, but http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[04:02] <Shinaku> which is something I've never encounted even though I've installed Ubuntu about 50 times
[04:03] <Shinaku> Any idea why it's doing this?
[04:03] <Fator_Dee> daush: you propably have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to properly match your mouse, or try to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see if that finds your mouse
[04:04] <thoreauputic> pfp: the devs are working with the author to correct some errors, I think
[04:04] <dooglus> thoreauputic: that worked - I made a new directory /usr/lib/win32 and moved them all in there
[04:04] <reka> Shinaku: you sure it's locked up?  how long have you waited?  iirc someone else waited for ~15mins.  it started up again and everything went fine after that.
[04:04] <daush> oka!!! its like japanese ! :D... ._. will try better a mouse usb when  money rain.
[04:04] <thoreauputic> dooglus: aha ! :D
[04:04] <Shinaku> It's been like that for about 15 mins
[04:05] <dooglus> pfp: that ubuntuguide site suggests getting the codecs from backports
[04:05] <Shinaku> oh, it's just jumped up to 75%
[04:05] <dooglus> pfp: and apparently that's not a good idea
[04:05] <reka> Shinaku: :-) told you!
[04:05] <Shinaku> hehe
[04:05] <pfp> dooglus: why not?
[04:05] <Shinaku> This wont affect how it runs, will it?
[04:05] <thoreauputic> dooglus: amongst other things, ...
[04:05] <Fator_Dee> Shinaku: nope
[04:05] <Shinaku> oh good
[04:05] <dooglus> pfp: scroll up - thoreauputic says why not
[04:05] <Shinaku> some kind of glitch then?
[04:05] <dr_willis> heh - ive been tyring to 'breakubuntu' - and ist survived my attempts so far.
[04:05] <dr_willis> :P
[04:05] <Myrtti> backports are teh iivil
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> Shinaku: prolly just a feature :-p
[04:06] <Shinaku> haha
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> Shinaku: or not
[04:06] <thoreauputic> pfp: backports can cause problems/conflicts with updates
[04:06] <dooglus> I have one big giant massive problem left with ubuntu that stops me using it instead of windows
[04:06] <Shinaku> lets you drink some coffee
[04:06] <Seveas> dr_willis, try combining breezy & backports
[04:06] <Seveas> that'llbreak it :)(
[04:06] <dooglus> my internet connection goes down if I download stuff and move the mouse at the same time.
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: you still have windows installed?
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> eh
[04:06] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: I have to.  It's the only OS I've found that works on this PC
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> some irq problem perhaps?
[04:06] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: yes, no doubt.
[04:07] <pfp> thoreauputic: oh... i must have had luck then, heh
[04:07] <dr_willis> Seveas,  everyone says 'dont even LOOK at breezy " :P
[04:07] <dooglus> IRQ 10 and 11 both seem 'overloaded':
[04:07] <dooglus>  10:      87931          XT-PIC  yenta, eth0, ohci_hcd, ehci_hcd
[04:07] <dooglus>  11:     370695          XT-PIC  ohci_hcd, ohci_hcd, SiS SI7012
[04:07] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: a friend of mine had a similar problem, I could ask him what he did
[04:07] <thoreauputic> pfp: yes, some people have got away with it ;-)
[04:07] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: I'd love to find a solution for the problem.
[04:07] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: I had the same problem on Mandrake, Mandriva and debian too.
[04:08] <dooglus> with kernel 2.2, with 2.4 and with 2.6
[04:08] <Shinaku> Mandriva
[04:08] <dooglus> I think 'yenta' and 'eth0' are clashing on IRQ 10
[04:08] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: he seems to be quite dead at the moment, but I think I can catch him in todays time :-p
[04:08] <Shinaku> is that the exact same as Mandrake 10.1?
[04:08] <thoreauputic> dooglus: funny that SiS7012 is on irq 11 _ I think mine is on 18
[04:08] <dooglus> thoreauputic: that's the sound card, right?
[04:09] <thoreauputic> dooglus: yes
[04:09] <dooglus> thoreauputic: do "cat /proc/interrupts" to see the IRQs
[04:09] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: you could try to change the cards places on the mobo
[04:09] <reka> GaZZoo: do you seriously recommend vlc?  what is the interface like?
[04:09] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: it's a laptop - it's all SiS stuff, and not swappable
[04:09] <Fator_Dee> :-p
[04:09] <Fator_Dee> swap it with a hammer
[04:10] <thoreauputic> dooglus: 18:    3690083   IO-APIC-level  SiS SI7012
[04:10] <Fator_Dee> teach 'im to behave
[04:10] <dooglus> I tried 28 different combinations of kernel parameters yesterday to see if I could get it to use different IRQs.  I couldn't.  :(
[04:10] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: hit laurence with a hammer?  I couldn't!
[04:14] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: do you have an usb mouse perhaps?
[04:15] <enrique> hi
[04:15] <Shinaku> Hello.
[04:15] <enrique> can somebody help me editing GRUB so that I can change the default OS to boot?
[04:16] <reka> enrique: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:16] <pfp> enrique: look for a line 'default         0', chaneg the number
[04:16] <pfp> change*
[04:17] <reka> 0 being the first listed, 1 being the next, and so on
[04:18] <enrique> no idea?
[04:18] <Seveas> enrique, reka and pfp just said it...
[04:20] <enrique> where do i look the number i need to change it to?
[04:20] <enrique> yes
[04:20] <enrique> i mean...
[04:20] <enrique> how do I know which number to change it for?
[04:20] <Fator_Dee> enrique: reka said it
[04:20] <Fator_Dee> < reka> 0 being the first listed, 1 being the next, and so on
[04:21] <Fator_Dee> you change the number to that which you want to be booted by default
[04:22] <desplesda> hi, i've just installed php4 and whenever i browse to localhost/whatever/ , which has an index.php, apache sends me the php file as a download
[04:22] <reka> enrique: see how each boot option is grouped in lines?  look at the titles.
[04:22] <desplesda> browsing to /whatever/index.php executes it normally
[04:22] <dos000> hi, i am trying to ssh into multiple boxes using ssh tunnels. the problem is since they are all mapped to localhost ssh borks thinnking it is a new server ! is there a way around this problem ?
[04:22] <desplesda> any idea what's going on?
[04:25] <caine> how to do change the default user for my internet?
[04:25] <Shinaku> O
[04:25] <phend> desplesda, in your httpd.conf file, there's a way of setting index.php files to be executed like index.html files
[04:25] <reka> dos000: you might get a better response in #linux
[04:26] <caine> last night it said that my internet was already in use by the default user and basically in order to open up any pages i would have to create a new name so i did but i dont know where to go to change the name back
[04:27] <caine> its not my computer log in its the internets
[04:27] <desplesda> phend: any idea what it is? grepping apache2.conf for php just turns up the DirectoryIndex directive
[04:27] <Einhoernchen> well is a seen bot in here?
[04:28] <phend> desplesda, the DirectoryIndex directive
[04:28] <phend> oh
[04:28] <phend> hang on
[04:28] <Einhoernchen> !seen mindspin
[04:28] <caine> oh and how do i figure out why my firefox keeps crashing when i go to certain sites?
[04:28] <reka> caine: you mean it's your browser?  it's saying something about profiles right?
[04:28] <Einhoernchen> lol
[04:28] <caine> yes! thats it reka
[04:28] <phend> desplesda, i thought that was it. hmm
[04:28] <caine> where do i go to change that stuff
[04:29] <roshlame> Synaptic does not seem to find totem-xine
[04:29] <Einhoernchen> well can anybody tell me how i've to install a *.deb file?
[04:29] <Fator_Dee> Einhoernchen: sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb
[04:29] <roshlame> Will it be possible to use the package on the debian webside?
[04:29] <Einhoernchen> Fator_Dee, with kynaptic now or ?
[04:29] <djp> is it possible to implement irda under ubuntu or will i need hardware to use it?
[04:29] <thoreauputic> roshlame: I think totem-xine is in the universe repo
[04:30] <roshlame> repo?
[04:30] <Fator_Dee> Einhoernchen: if you have a file in your harddrive you install it like that, or you can search the repository for it
[04:30] <SysFail> mine found it rosh
[04:30] <Fator_Dee> Einhoernchen: and that is a commandline command
[04:30] <thoreauputic> roshlame: and please don't mix debian packages with ubuntu ones
[04:30] <pfp> roshlame: repository
[04:30] <reka> caine: try this: type about:config in the url bar
[04:30] <[Spooky] > isnt the cdfs iso9660 ?
[04:30] <caine> ok h/o
[04:30] <SysFail> says its in backports for some reason
[04:30] <reka> caine: then in the filter, type "profile" (w/o quotes)
[04:31] <caine> ok
[04:31] <reka> caine: double click on the "managae_only_at_launch" and set it to true.
[04:31] <caine> k
[04:31] <reka> i.e. type "true" (w/o quotes)
[04:32] <reka> close and restart
[04:32] <caine> it did it on its own
[04:32] <caine> when i dbl clicked it
[04:32] <caine> restart linnux or firefow
[04:32] <roshlame> So you say I can't use it?
[04:32] <caine> *fox
[04:32] <reka> ok
[04:32] <reka> close and restart
[04:32] <SysFail> you can use it...add backports and univers to your repo list
[04:32] <caine> *linux
[04:32] <reka> firefox
[04:32] <caine> k
[04:32] <pfp> roshlame: have you added universe or backports to your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:33] <caine> nothing happend
[04:33] <thoreauputic> roshlame: edit your sources ( /etc/apt/sources.list) and uncomment the universe lines
[04:33] <djp> is it possible to implement irda under ubuntu or will i need hardware to use it?
[04:33] <caine> it just opened up my home page like normal
[04:33] <roshlame> No I haven't
[04:33] <roshlame> Okay, thank you.
[04:33] <thoreauputic> roshlame: then sudo apt-get update, install totem-xine
[04:33] <reka> caine: google for "firefox profiles"
[04:33] <caine> k
[04:33] <dr_willis> Hmm irda - is the infrared stuff isent it. :P how do ya do that without hardware?
[04:33] <thoreauputic> roshlame: don't add backports, by the way
[04:34] <caine> wow that was easier to find then everything else lol
[04:34] <SysFail> I haven;t had a problem with backports
[04:34] <roshlame> I probably won't because I do not know what does backport mean ;)
[04:34] <reka> caine: sorry, i use mozilla, and although they're almost identical, i haven't run into problems with the profiles.  (i noticed it usually comes up when i try to run another mozilla product at the same time)
[04:34] <thoreauputic> SysFail: many people have, believe me
[04:34] <SysFail> k
[04:35] <SysFail> I even did xchat and gaim last night
[04:35] <reka> caine: you found something?
[04:35] <caine> yeah i found something
[04:35] <caine> well im running mozilla also
[04:35] <Echelon-H> what's the command to reboot?
[04:35] <desplesda> Echelon-H: sudo reboot :)
[04:35] <thoreauputic> SysFail: the problems were/are mainly when people do dist-upgrade to Hoary from Warty
[04:35] <caine> but what i just found i think is only for windows
[04:36] <SysFail> yeah that makes more sense... I did a fresh install
[04:36] <reka> caine: well, if you're using mozilla, you just do tools->switch profile
[04:36] <thoreauputic> SysFail: but if you look at some of the versioning on backports packages.. ugly as sin
[04:37] <caine> its not there...
[04:37] <SysFail> yeah I pick and choose the ones I use... I wanted the newest xchat and gaim and stuff ...but I dont upgrade lib files and stuff like that
[04:37] <reka> caine: ok.  i'm confused.  are you using mozilla or firefox.  nb: they are *not* the same thing.
[04:38] <reka> maybe i should say mozilla-browser
[04:38] <pfp> hmm, i did dist-upgrade to hoary w/ backports...
[04:38] <caine> it says mozilla firefox at the top...
[04:38] <thoreauputic> SysFail: as with most things, it's OK for those who have an idea what they are doing
[04:38] <SysFail> very true man
[04:38] <SysFail> I checked it again...theres a version of his program in universe
[04:39] <reka> caine: then i'm not sure. sorry
[04:39] <SysFail> .9 or something...backports has 1.1 or something
[04:39] <reka> i'm not a firefox expert
[04:39] <thoreauputic> pfp: not everybody had problems, true
[04:39] <echobucket> all of the sudden I'm getting a 401 from backports.ubuntuforums.org when apt-get updating..
[04:39] <reka> SysFail: do you know how to compile from source?
[04:39] <SysFail> I get that sometimes too echo
[04:39] <caine> reka: its ok
[04:40] <SysFail> yeah reka
[04:40] <caine> reka: thanks for your help anyway
[04:40] <Subex> anyone can help me, how to install my new webcam in my ubuntu box
[04:40] <SysFail> I wish my webcam worked in linux
[04:40] <SysFail> heh
[04:40] <Shinaku> Does Ubuntu come with the SSHD running by default?
[04:40] <reka> SysFail: well, that's an alternative to possibly breaking the system with backports.  but that's just my opinion
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Shinaku: no
[04:40] <reka> caine: sure.  sorry i couldn't help more.
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Shinaku: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:41] <Shinaku> ok
[04:41] <Subex> so, my webcan useless in ubuntu?
[04:41] <SysFail> yeah I just compiled that gtk-engine-qt thing yesterday
[04:41] <Shinaku> so I am sat here looking at an Ubuntu box iver a webcam
[04:41] <Shinaku> but I can't actully do anything
[04:41] <echobucket> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35641
[04:41] <Subex> oh
[04:41] <echobucket> Info about backports 401 error ^^^^^^^^
[04:41] <caine> reka: its ok
[04:41] <SysFail> some work...some dont Subex
[04:41] <SysFail> mine doesnt
[04:41] <SysFail> it's some intel webcam
[04:41] <caine> reka: maybe you can still help
[04:42] <caine> reka: your using ubuntu am i right?
[04:42] <echobucket> someone should probably put that in the topic here, in case other folks ask.
[04:42] <Subex> oh. . i see
[04:42] <reka> caine: yes :-)
[04:42] <caine> reka: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/profile#new
[04:42] <SysFail> wish there was a way to use windows drivers for webcams
[04:42] <Subex> thanks for help me guys
[04:43] <caine> tell me how to make that work
[04:43] <thoreauputic> echobucket: th eops don't want to encourage the use of backports :)
[04:43] <SysFail> that'd be sweet
[04:43] <thoreauputic> *the ops
[04:43] <caine> reka: look for the linux instructions in the 2nd paragraph
[04:43] <echobucket> thoreauputic, ah.
[04:43] <echobucket> thoreauputic, understandable ;)
[04:44] <reka> ok hang on, loading.  i'm only on dialup ATM and i'm downloading some codecs. :-)
[04:44] <SysFail> they still make dialup?
[04:44] <caine> reka: lol its ok
[04:44] <SysFail> heh
[04:44] <caine> sysfail: isnt it sad
[04:44] <thoreauputic> echobucket: same thing with http://ubuntuguide.org I think
[04:44] <caine> reka: no offense
[04:45] <reka> bastards
[04:45] <reka> lol
[04:45] <caine> lol
[04:45] <thoreauputic> SysFail: much of the world is still on dialup, actually
[04:45] <SysFail> hahaha
[04:45] <SysFail> i know thor...was giving him a hard time
[04:45] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:45] <SysFail> insulting his manhood for being on dialup
[04:45] <SysFail> lol
[04:45] <caine> lol
[04:46] <reka> caine: what am i supposed to be looking at? which paragraph?
[04:46] <caine> reka: Create a new profile
[04:46] <caine> reka: then where it says "On Linux or Mac..."
[04:46] <reka> ok.
[04:47] <reka> yep
[04:47] <caine> reka: im guessing i have to do this in terminal
[04:47] <caine> reka: but when i did nothing happend
[04:48] <reka> caine: if you have a shortcut on your panel you can edit the command.
[04:48] <reka> caine: are you in the forefox directory?
[04:48] <reka> *firefox
[04:48] <caine> no
[04:48] <caine> reka: idk how to get there
[04:49] <reka> caine: type this: which firefox
[04:49] <reka> then cd to that directory
[04:50] <caine> caine@Caine:~$ cd /usr/bin/firefox bash: cd: /usr/bin/firefox: Not a directory
[04:50] <caine> thats what i get when i try to cd
[04:51] <ys76> caine: Try cd /usr/bin
[04:51] <reka> caine: ah, whoops.  type : cd /usr/bin
[04:51] <reka> the 'which' command tells you the path to the executable, sorry
[04:51] <caine> oh i know
[04:51] <caine> thats how i got the path to cd
[04:51] <caine> ok now im in usr/bin
[04:52] <caine> now what
[04:52] <_kevin> there is a linux project for writing to NTFS --> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[04:52] <_kevin> how can i get this on Ubuntu
[04:52] <reka> type ./firefox -profilemanager like it says
[04:52] <thoreauputic> _kevin: you can't, directly: it's still experimental
[04:52] <reka> caine: what desktop environment are you using? gnome?
[04:53] <caine> caine@Caine:/usr/bin$ /firefox -profilemanager bash: /firefox: No such file or directory
[04:53] <caine> ummm
[04:53] <caine> havnt the slightest clue
[04:53] <OConnor> co caine
[04:53] <caine> i believe do
[04:53] <lok> it's a joke ?
[04:53] <lok> is it *
[04:53] <thoreauputic> dot slash, caine
[04:54] <caine> ?
[04:54] <reka> caine: it's probably gnome.  ah, don't worry anyway b/c i'm guessing you only need to do this one-off.  i was going to suggest creating a panel shortcut
[04:54] <reka> caine: ./firefox not /firefox
[04:54] <Fator_Dee> caine: if you are in the directory where the executable is, you ned to command ./executable
[04:54] <m0r0n> How do I check if dma is enabled
[04:54] <OConnor> Macabre
[04:54] <reka> m0r0n: e.g. hdparm -d /dev/dvd
[04:54] <pfp> m0r0n: sudo hdparm /dev/hdX
[04:55] <caine> holy shit it finally worked
[04:55] <thoreauputic> actually, since it's in the $PATH anyway, all you need is `firefox -profilemanager `
[04:55] <caine> thanks guys
[04:55] <m0r0n> thanks
[04:55] <reka> caine: is this your first linux distro?
[04:55] <caine> ummm
[04:56] <caine> its my first week using linux yes if thats what your askin lol
[04:56] <caine> i started tuesday
[04:56] <caine> last tuesday
[04:56] <mof> hi all
[04:56] <nihao> acroread, it seems that it doesn't work automatically after installation. any solution?
[04:56] <caine> "Firefox cannot use the profile "default" because it is in use...."
[04:56] <caine> how do i fix that
[04:57] <_kevin> anyone heard of ReactOS
[04:57] <pfp> caine: you probably have a zombie 'fox process lying around
[04:57] <Fator_Dee> caine: delete the file ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock
[04:57] <mof> caine, killall firefox, then run new
[04:57] <Fator_Dee> yes, check that too
[04:57] <caine> umm
[04:57] <reka> nihao: what do you mean?
[04:57] <caine> one step at a time
[04:58] <mof> or like Fator_Dee
[04:58] <Fator_Dee> but if it still says that, delete that lock-file
[04:58] <_kevin> it's trying to build an open sources OS that can run .exe and windows program... can this possibly implemented into ubuntu in the future
[04:58] <caine> what comes first lol
[04:58] <Fator_Dee> caine: first killall firefox
[04:58] <pfp> caine: killall firefox-bin actually :)
[04:58] <Einhoernchen> hey guys .. i'm using kde at the moment (kubuntu) is it possible to install gnome anyhow?
[04:58] <caine> ok ty
[04:58] <Einhoernchen> strange isn't it?
[04:58] <Fator_Dee> pfp: isn't firefox enuf?
[04:58] <reka> question: how do you scroll top's output?
[04:59] <littleworm> c compiler?
[04:59] <pfp> Fator_Dee: not imho, if you look at ps auxw |grep firefox, the binary is named -bin
[04:59] <thoreauputic> Einhoernchen: I think you can install ubuntu-desktop to get gnome
[04:59] <SysFail> Einhoernchen,  yes...just use synaptic and install the metapackage
[04:59] <Einhoernchen> ok
[04:59] <mof> Einhoernchen, apt-cache search ubuntu-desktop, then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <Einhoernchen> hell
[04:59] <Einhoernchen> i want to do it with kynaptic ,)
[04:59] <tarvid> looking for recommendations on modems
[05:00] <Fator_Dee> Einhoernchen: search the same package in kynaptic
[05:00] <Einhoernchen> ok
[05:00] <Fator_Dee> Einhoernchen: and install it with the dependencies
[05:00] <Einhoernchen> yep
[05:00] <tarvid> external serials are disappearing
[05:00] <thoreauputic> Einhoernchen: just as easy to type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop in a terminal
[05:00] <reka> littleworm: you need to install buil-essential if that's what you're asking.
[05:00] <reka> littleworm: manpages-dev is probably going to tbe helpful too.
[05:01] <reka> *build-essential
[05:01] <tarvid> is there a hardware compatibility database I can search?
[05:01] <Einhoernchen> its a bit strange isnt it to use gnome with kubuntu?
[05:01] <Einhoernchen> lol
[05:01] <caine> ok how do i delete that file
[05:01] <nihao> reka: I "sudo apt-get install acroread". but I start acroreader by clicking the menu item, reader doesn't show up.
[05:01] <caine> oh and im guessing that killall worked
[05:01] <reka> Einhoernchen: not really.  people want to use kde on ubuntu
[05:01] <Einhoernchen> lol
[05:01] <Einhoernchen> ok
[05:01] <caine> caine@Caine:/usr/bin$ killall firefox-bin caine@Caine:/usr/bin$
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Einhoernchen: not really - I use kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu sometimes - same deal :)
[05:01] <aghoo> Hi, i've got a little problem with ati driver for my laptop, fglrx load properly, xorg.conf seems to be good, i've set the lvds, but when X loads, the screen is on, but it display a dark screen, and the pc is freezed, can you help me ?
[05:03] <thoreauputic> caine: yes, if it didn't work you would get a message
[05:03] <reka> Einhoernchen: just because a distro has a particular environ as default doesn't limit you to using it.  heck i use xfce. kde or icewm sometimes.
[05:03] <caine> k
[05:03] <caine> now how do i delete ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock through terminal
[05:03] <mof> Einhoernchen, if you know all about gnome and kde, try using xfce or icewm or fluxbox - cool :-)
[05:03] <Einhoernchen> heh ok
[05:03] <thoreauputic> caine: silence is golden in *nix :)
[05:03] <Einhoernchen> >)
[05:03] <caine> ol
[05:03] <caine> *lol
[05:03] <[Spooky] > isnt it "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso folder/folder" ?
[05:03] <pfp> caine: you dont need to, if firefox starts normally now
[05:04] <reka> nihao: tried running it from terminal?
[05:04] <rg58sma> hi where i found the w32codecs??
[05:04] <spanglesontoast> what are these libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:
[05:04] <spanglesontoast>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.
[05:04] <yonil> I'm having problem with java based programs (azureus), since i installed sun-j2sdk, so now i removed it and these programs still doesnt work, what can i do ??
[05:04] <Fator_Dee> caine: if it doesn't start, write "rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock
[05:04] <mof> rg58sma, at mplayer homepage
[05:04] <Einhoernchen> is it possible to delete kde after installing gnome?
[05:04] <reka> rg58sma: marillat repo.  see ubuntuguide's sample sources.list for the url
[05:05] <Einhoernchen> lol
[05:05] <rg58sma> no
[05:05] <Fator_Dee> caine: you can use tab-complete to find out what the default-directorys whole name is
[05:05] <Einhoernchen> no?
[05:05] <Einhoernchen> ok
[05:05] <rg58sma> the marillat
[05:05] <Einhoernchen> >)
[05:05] <yonil> Fator_Dee, btw its *default, not default.* :P
[05:05] <rg58sma> cant hacve in my sources??
[05:05] <nihao> i type the command "acroread", this is the output: /usr/bin/acroread: line 12: /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread: no such file or directory
[05:05] <Fator_Dee> yonil: hnh?
[05:05] <rg58sma> because have trouble
[05:05] <thoreauputic> Einhoernchen: sort of - you can uninstall kdelibs and take the whole thing with it I think
[05:05] <caine> ok now how do i figure out why firefox crashes when i got to certain sites
[05:05] <mof> rg58sma, at mplayer homepage, its easy to install
[05:05] <Fator_Dee> yonil: could you elaborate the thing to me?
[05:05] <Einhoernchen> ok
[05:05] <yonil> Fator_Dee, here its ~/.mozilla/firefox/rs8t9olt.default
[05:06] <Fator_Dee> yonil: I have it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.1q2/ :-)
[05:06] <OConnor> Moby
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Einhoernchen: od course if you do that kiss your KDE apps goodbye
[05:06] <Einhoernchen> Eminem
[05:06] <yonil> Fator_Dee, weird =P
[05:06] <OConnor> break me heart
[05:06] <Einhoernchen> hehe TheMuso ;)
[05:06] <reka> rg58sma: then like mof said, use the mplayer codecs: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[05:06] <Einhoernchen> thoreauputic, ;)
[05:06] <Fator_Dee> yonil: must be wholly random thing
[05:06] <reka> http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html
[05:06] <yonil> Anyone can help me with java thing ?
[05:06] <carniit> someone can tell me a good source for laptop sleepmode management ???
[05:06] <hans--> is there a key in ubuntu with which i can swich back to desktop while playing a game like the windows key?
[05:06] <yonil> azureus doesnt work ;_;
[05:07] <Einhoernchen> -.-
[05:07] <caine> oh hey i have another problem
[05:07] <caine> i need to get mplayer...where?
[05:07] <Fator_Dee> caine: enable universe and multiverse and search it in synaptic
[05:07] <caine> because i can hear video but cant see it
[05:07] <caine> how do i enable those?
[05:07] <hans--> hear video :P
[05:08] <Fator_Dee> caine: you have to get w32codecs from marillat or backports
[05:08] <caine> yes i can hear the audio from the videos but i cant see them
[05:08] <caine>  the picture says "no picture"
[05:08] <thoreauputic> caine: read this page >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:10] <thoreauputic> caine: I'd be inclined to ignore the advice there about backports though
[05:10] <algell> I have just installed Ubuntu, and for some reason I can't use any resolusion but 640x480. How do I fix this problem?
[05:10] <flankk> 'flankk@louise:~$ acpi -t'
[05:10] <flankk> 'Thermal 1: passive active[0] ,<PHONE_NUMBER>.0 degrees C'
[05:10] <flankk> should i be worried?
[05:11] <christian> hi all
[05:11] <spanglesontoast> how can I force something to install without checking for dependencies
[05:11] <omnis> by installing from source perhaps
[05:11] <fix> list
[05:11] <omnis> meaning /configure /make
[05:11] <christian> how can i start my samba instance? There's no /etc/init.d/samba
[05:11] <spanglesontoast> I mean't package
[05:12] <rg58sma> where i found the marillat for sources.list??
[05:12] <mof> algell, you have to edit the xorg.conf
[05:12] <Fikrann> flankk, not really, it's just broken bios.
[05:12] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: dpkg --ignore-depends= ...
[05:12] <danba> omnis, how about with an apt-get type thing?
[05:12] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: or maybe you can force it
[05:12] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: by --force
[05:12] <omnis> there you go
[05:12] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: but it isn't a good thing to do this..
[05:13] <thoreauputic> --force is  *really * bad idea
[05:13] <spanglesontoast> it's only openttd
[05:13] <danba> spanglesontoast: sudo aptitude -f package name, try that. if you have to.
[05:13] <thoreauputic> how to break the package management system in one go...
[05:13] <omnis> it won't run properly, or even at all without the right dependencies
[05:13] <danba> spanglesontoast: from repositories, openttd?
[05:13] <spanglesontoast> doesn't work
[05:14] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: you can download openttd binary from openttd.org .. maybe this will be cleaner solution than forcing dependency problems
[05:14] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: but you should have the packages installes .. otherwise it will not work
[05:14] <spanglesontoast> I downloaded the .deb
[05:14] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: what are the packages? some SDL libraries?
[05:14] <spanglesontoast> and it moans about it
[05:14] <reka> rg58sma: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
[05:15] <spanglesontoast> openttd_<IP_ADDRESS>-2_i386.deb
[05:15] <algell> mof: where do I find xorg.conf?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> algell: /etc/X11
[05:16] <mof> algell, any experiences with linux ?
[05:17] <danba> spanglesontoast: read http://wiki.openttd.com/index.php/FAQ_installation ?
[05:17] <reka> algell: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21984.html
[05:17] <IIIEars_> thoreuputic - thor! thor! thor! - ;)
[05:17] <algell> mof: some experience. not a lot
[05:18] <mof> reka algell: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21984.html, first try this
[05:18] <yonil> help me with java ;_;
[05:18] <rg58sma> i have problem
[05:18] <ccfiel> hello pll..
[05:19] <Cristobal> hi, anyone know where to get FREE domain hosting?? I have a domain and need hosting
[05:19] <reka> yonil: installing?
[05:19] <mof> section "SCREEN", subsection "DISPLAY"
[05:19] <algell> mof reka: ok I try
[05:20] <spanglesontoast> how do I select a package to install in aptitude?
[05:20] <yonil> reka, dont know. it used to work, now i downloaded sun-j2sdk and program using java such as azureus get stuck
[05:20] <danba> Cristobal: yes, just a sec, please dont leave right away:)
[05:20] <mof> algell, with your resolutions
[05:20] <Shuddert1ix> spanglesontoast: man aptitude
[05:20] <ccfiel> when installing ubuntu "The Hoary Hedgehog Release" then after 6 months a new release has come out...do i need to re install my os? or just update it?
[05:20] <danba> Cristobal: show me your page...:)
[05:20] <Cristobal> ok danba thx
[05:20] <reka> algell: it's either (1) higher resolutions aren't listed in the section mof said or (2) your refresh rate isn't set right.  try the generic rates listed in a post in that same thread
[05:20] <Cristobal> its not done   well  its partially done im working on it
[05:21] <Shuddert1ix> spanglesontoast: actually, that doesn't say anything about it, let me check
[05:21] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: you can update it with just a few commands
[05:21] <danba> ok, well, hopefully it is for real:) http://hosting.cybermagellan.com .
[05:21] <yonil> can someone run "java -version" and show me the first line result ?
[05:21] <Cristobal> yes it is for real, it is for a a shop that sells leather clothing
[05:21] <Fator_Dee> yonil: java version "1.5.0_02"
[05:21] <ccfiel> Fator_Dee: cool ..so no need to re install my system again? to have the new release.. :)
[05:21] <IIIEars_> www.findmyhosting.com/
[05:21] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: no, no need to reinstall
[05:21] <danba> java version "1.4.2"
[05:21] <reka> yonil: correct me if i'm wrong, but don't you need the jre instead of the sdk?
[05:22] <Cristobal> do you own that server danba
[05:22] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: I upgraded my system from warty to hoary
[05:22] <danba> gcj-4.0 (GCC) 4.0.0 20050301 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0-0pre6ubuntu7) second line :-p
[05:22] <Shuddert1ix> spanglesontoast: there is a nice little blue bar at the top of the screen.. says to use g to install/download/remove
[05:22] <danba> Cristobal: no, cybermagellan does, though.
[05:22] <ccfiel> Fator_Dee: cool.. using also apt get?
[05:22] <danba> there is a contact link, I am sure
[05:22] <Cristobal> its neat... i wonder if they will let me stay
[05:22] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: yes, just change the repositories to point to the new release and then a dist-upgrade
[05:23] <spanglesontoast> yea
[05:23] <spanglesontoast> I pressed g
[05:23] <spanglesontoast> nothing happened
[05:23] <Cristobal> danba do you know if they have pop3 email
[05:23] <danba> spanglesontoast: nono, f1 is the help.
[05:23] <ccfiel> Fator_Dee: how many months have you used ubuntu?
[05:23] <IIIEars_> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:23] <danba> Cristobal: no sorry, I dont, look into it, I hjave not used it yet.
[05:23] <Cristobal> ok thx
[05:24] <danba> spanglesontoast: if you do sudo aptitude install packageName then iut installs
[05:24] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: I started using warty after about a week or two after it was officially released, so ~7 months
[05:24] <danba> use synaptic gfor gui, though, aptitude for comman line
[05:24] <spanglesontoast> ok done
[05:25] <reka> danba: noob question: difference b/n aptitude and apt-get?
[05:25] <ccfiel> Fator_Dee: ok..how was it..? no complecation with your hardware? :)
[05:25] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: everything worked out of the box for me :-)
[05:25] <danba> well, not so noob to me:) well apt-get is a mi9d level tool, aptitude a high level, the higher we get, the more a person should be using it.
[05:26] <danba> aptitude should be used by you, apt-get by aptitude, somewhat.
[05:26] <danba> spanglesontoast: done what?
[05:26] <thoreauputic> reka: aptitude deals with dependencies better, partcularly when you uninstall something
[05:26] <reka> ah.  so why are we giving out instructions to use apt-get and not aptitude
[05:26] <spanglesontoast> installed
[05:26] <spanglesontoast> it works
[05:27] <reka> well, *me* giving out instructions.
[05:27] <Avinoam> Hello everyone
[05:27] <IIIEars_> "" everything worked all usb devices too. - some tweaking needed for wireless
[05:27] <thoreauputic> reka: hmm - seems to be an ingrained habit for ex-debianites :)
[05:27] <thoreauputic> like me
[05:27] <Avinoam> Anyone have some time to help a newbie?
[05:28] <thoreauputic> Avinoam: just ask
[05:28] <IIIEars_> Hello Avinoam :)
[05:28] <thoreauputic> Avinoam: if someone can help thay will
[05:28] <reka> ok.  it was just this is the 1st time i've seen an aptitude command stated over apt-get.
[05:28] <IIIEars_> Welcome to Ubuntu.
[05:28] <m0r0n> I often get the message "Could not open vfs file" when attempting to play a stream from shoutcast. Any idea how to fix it?
[05:28] <Avinoam> Basically, I want to install Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1150, with an Intel i810 card
[05:28] <Avinoam> with other distribs i've had problems with X display
[05:28] <andreas_> hello, i've got a question ;). i want to install debian on my pc; but debian does not have the adm8211 driver as a module afaik...;therefore i thought that maybe i could use the one that comes with ubuntu. so my question is wether i will run into problems with this approach
[05:28] <danba> spanglesontoast: nice...
[05:29] <ccfiel> Fator_Dee: well thanks...bye..
[05:29] <ccfiel> bye ppl..thanks!
[05:29] <hans--> anybody know how to switch back to desktop while playing a game?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> andreas_: try the live CD and see if it works
[05:29] <Avinoam> And I noticed that the i810 isn't listed in supported hardware
[05:29] <andreas_> you mean knoppix ?
[05:29] <Avinoam> I had it working with Knoppix, and then one day it stopped working
[05:30] <Avinoam> Andreas, Ubuntu has their own livecd
[05:30] <thoreauputic> andreas_: sorry, I misunderstood you - you are installing Debian?
[05:30] <andreas_> maybe i was not clear. i have ubuntu, want to erase it,but want to keep the driver
[05:30] <reka> hans--: tried alt+tab? ctrl+esc? ctrl+alt+d?
[05:30] <IIIEars_> Avinoam - we need more info on your machine.        - had some personal experience with the i810 - bit rocky no GL acceleration still fine for everything but gaming.
[05:30] <Shuddert1ix> Haha! This is the first time i've had to use konqueror over nautilus/epiphany/firefox :D
[05:30] <andreas_> yes :)
[05:30] <thoreauputic> andreas_: the drivers are part of the kernel config
[05:31] <Avinoam> III i'm on a Celeron 2600, 256 RAM, USB cable modem (unfortunately), LCD screen
[05:31] <hans--> thx lets try it
[05:31] <Fator_Dee> hans--: and maybe ctrl+alt+arrows, and atl+enter
[05:31] <Fator_Dee> *alt+enter
[05:31] <thoreauputic> andreas_: so what you need is a kernel for debian that includes the modules you want
[05:31] <andreas_> so they are in the kernel? i found a bug that states that the driver should not be in there,because it was not clean enough, or something like that
[05:31] <Avinoam> IIIEars any other info needed?
[05:32] <Avinoam> Partition is already ready
[05:32] <andreas_> yes,
[05:32] <IIIEars_> I am very new to linux 5th week - but someone here knows the answer.
[05:32] <andreas_> and i thought that i could use the ubuntu module for debian :)
[05:32] <thoreauputic> andreas_: I wouldn't know about the bug: but modules are kernel-dependent, not distro dependent
[05:33] <IIIEars_> Avinoam - Did the Live CD work okay?
[05:33] <Avinoam> Is the installer good? I tried the debian installer and it is quite complicated
[05:33] <thoreauputic> andreas_: why are you erasing Ubuntu? It's *very* close to debian anyway
[05:33] <andreas_> bug #261684
[05:33] <danba> IIIEars_: the model was there:-p
[05:33] <Avinoam> IIIEars the Knoppix livecd worked fine
[05:33] <andreas_> just looking around
[05:34] <andreas_> recently tried slackware and suse way back
[05:34] <d0z> Hello. I'm experiencing some problem with my Inprocomm IPN 2220 wifi card. I use ndiswrapper and everythin is fine in dmesg. But when I try to configure it with iwconfig it won't take my conf. Neither will it change essid or channel.
[05:34] <thoreauputic> andreas_: just stay with Ubuntu if it works for you - you can do anything on Ubuntu you can do with Debian
[05:34] <andreas_> i want to good overview before i "settle down" with a distro
[05:34] <Avinoam> Is Ubuntu easier to use than debian?
[05:34] <andreas_> -to +a
[05:35] <d0z> I've had this card up and running under debian but not ubuntu. :(
[05:35] <glassor> hi all, i installed ubuntu and xp on my sata drive, i added another sata drive that i installed server 2003, when i installed the server 2003 the first drive was not connected, what do i need to write in the "menu.lst" in the grub folder so i could do boot with server 2003 to?
[05:35] <thoreauputic> andreas_: I have some Debian experience, and really, there isn't much difference except that Ubuntu tends to work better "out of the box"
[05:35] <andreas_> so...where is all the fun then :)
[05:35] <danba> doz, what have you tried so far?
[05:35] <reka> Avinoam: i'll tell you one thing. #debian is not as newbie friendly as this channel
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Avinoam: a bit easier in a number of ways, yes
[05:36] <danba> Avinoam: hey, i810 is the graphics card you have in the computer?
[05:36] <IIIEars_> Avinoam - YES - Synaptic/apptitude pkg managers are a 3 click installer dream so smooth it makes XP envious. :)
[05:36] <Avinoam> danba yes
[05:36] <Avinoam> it's a dell laptop
[05:37] <Avinoam> Also, i wanted to know if Ubuntu has the correct USB network drivers so that a can use my cable modem
[05:37] <danba> glassor: not sure you can do that...
[05:37] <rg58sma> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
[05:37] <rg58sma>  works correctly?????
[05:37] <glassor> why not?
[05:37] <LoneElf> Anyone here use a radeon card with 2 monitors?
[05:37] <danba> Avinoam: yesm, I know it is that, you said that in the same sentence... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell lists a different card inside a 1150...
[05:38] <Avinoam> really? lemme check...
[05:38] <reka> rg58sma: did you apt-get update after you added it?
[05:38] <danba> glassor: not sure if the mbr can boot of a second drive, let me find you a link.
[05:38] <glassor> ok 10x
[05:38] <Avinoam> Danba, when i ran knoppix under xmodule=i810, it worked, without that, it didn't
[05:38] <danba> glassor: just a sec  tho.
[05:38] <rg58sma> i didn added because previuosly have troble
[05:38] <d0z> danba: I started it up with ndiswrapper. The first thing that strikes me when running iwconfig is that there is no encryption row. So I try to change essid but it won't change, tried changing channel it then fails. This is printed in dmesg: ndiswrapper (iw_set_freq:282): setting configuration failed (C0010015). Thats about it.
[05:39] <IIIEars_> Avinoam - These link. will have more neat tips and tricks than you can shake a stick at. FAQ http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UserDocumentation http://ubuntuguide.org/  Display http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:39] <danba> LoneElf: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo mentions it, that is about how much I know about that.
[05:39] <thoreauputic> rg58sma: use it to get codecs, then get rid of it or comment it out
[05:39] <LoneElf> for the life of me i cant get out of clone mode using fireglcontrol. It has really been giving me a hard time.... actually i guess a more accurate question would be, has anyone with a radeon gotten thier comp to run with dial screen?
[05:39] <LoneElf> danba: yeah, ive been there, thanks =) but it doesnt seem to help my problem
[05:39] <rg58sma> ok
[05:40] <Avinoam> hmm there it says i845
[05:40] <danba> LoneElf: state it:)
[05:40] <d0z> danba: Do you have a similar card?
[05:40] <reka> "LoneElf for the life of me i cant get out of clone mode using fireglcontrol"
[05:40] <danba> d0z: did you read the wiki for wifi?
[05:40] <danba> no, I dont use wireless.
[05:40] <danba> with linux, anyhow.
[05:40] <Avinoam> 82852?
[05:40] <d0z> Yes, and I have used it before on debian.
[05:40] <mcsf> hi, did anyone have problems upgrading linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 to 2.6.10-34.1 ? i always get an error about ndiswrapper
[05:41] <danba> I mean the ubuntu wiki for wifi.
[05:41] <LoneElf> danba: has been stated, as reka pointed out.
[05:41] <d0z> danba: Yes i've read one ubuntu wiki page about wifi. Don't know if there are more than one.
[05:42] <Avinoam> Hmm maybe i should be upgrading BIOS?
[05:42] <danba> nono, I meant, state what you tried in your question, so I dont have to go over the basics...
[05:42] <reka> LoneElf: searched ubuntuforums.org yet?
[05:42] <rg58sma> Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release.gpg
[05:42] <rg58sma>   La conexin expir [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 21]
[05:42] <d0z> danba: The funny thing is that it does'nt matter what command I try to use with iwconfig it gets totally ignored by the card.
[05:42] <danba> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage/searchwiki?expr=wifi&submit=Search that gives all the results, d0z.
[05:43] <roshlame> how do I make Totem to use esd for sound output?
[05:43] <danba> if you state that you tried the newbie things in your questions, ppl like me will not give you advice.
[05:43] <danba> cause we'lll know you tried what we could think of, thus leaving the queastion on the screen longer for ppl that know what they are talking about.
[05:44] <LoneElf> danba: i installed all fo the fglrx stuff from the ubuntu servers, went into my xorg.conf file and set driver to fglrx and restarted my compter (and my x server before that) and i used fireglcontrol to tell configure the comp to run in extended mode rather than clonemode... to no avail, when i reopen the program it still says its in clone mode.
[05:44] <rg58sma> Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release.gpg
[05:44] <rg58sma>   La conexin expir [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 21]
[05:44] <danba> rg58sma: is that the whole error message?
[05:44] <andreas_> bye
[05:45] <danba> please post only once, rg58sma.
[05:45] <rg58sma> ok
[05:45] <danba> or at least only once in one 640x480 screenfull
[05:45] <rg58sma> have a problem with Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release.gpg
[05:45] <danba> yes, I know, I saw it 3 times by now:) well, is that the whole error, those two lines, nothing else?
[05:46] <mof> rg58sma, sometimes the marillat server is unusable
[05:46] <danba> rg58sma: ok, well, Ill have a pastebin for you with what I did to fix it in a few minutes.
[05:47] <lillis> http://pastebin.com/292725 <- Whenever i try to apt-get I get that error
[05:47] <lillis> oh damn it's in swedish, sorry
[05:49] <danba> lillis: your sources.list is likely cluttered with outside sources, please paste that file to pastebin.com
[05:49] <reka> roshlame: what particular problem are you having?
[05:49] <lillis> danba: sec
[05:49] <mcsf> lillis, you must be root to use apt-get
[05:50] <danba> rg58sma: please post your sources.list to pastebin.com, with the exact error you get after you sudo apt-get update
[05:50] <mcsf> so here you'd use: " sudo apt-get install term " (correct me, i'm a newbie as well)
[05:50] <Seveas> lillis, try LC_MESSAGES=POSIX sudo apt-get install (etc...)
[05:50] <danba> rg58sma: if any, that is.
[05:50] <lillis> http://pastebin.com/292728
[05:50] <danba> mcsf: yes, you are wrongm, look at the next line
[05:50] <Seveas> rofl, lillis you have no main!
[05:51] <lillis> oh.
[05:51] <lillis> I accidently deleted "main"
[05:51] <lillis> doho
[05:51] <Seveas> lillis add main and restricted
[05:51] <danba> lillis: maybe comment out the cd, too.
[05:51] <Seveas> yeah, that's a good idea :)
[05:51] <danba> Seveas: you cant type while rofl...
[05:51] <reka> "doho".  is that what homer sounds like in swedish? :-)
[05:51] <Seveas> danba, i can
[05:51] <lillis> lol reka
[05:51] <Seveas> laptop on the floor ;)
[05:52] <Seveas> no reka, that would be dh
[05:52] <Seveas> :)
[05:52] <lillis> so how should it look?
[05:52] <lillis> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe multiverse
[05:52] <lillis> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary restricted universe multiverse
[05:52] <lillis> ?
[05:52] <Seveas> no
[05:52] <danba> guys with the hardware issues above, go ahead and check out the forums, ubuntuforums.org and stick around, maybe someone will know how to fix it.
[05:52] <Seveas>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricteduniverse multiverse
[05:52] <jnoreiko> hi. probably a daft question, but what do I use for ftp on ubuntu?
[05:52] <Seveas> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricteduniverse multiverse
[05:53] <lillis> ah
[05:53] <reka> jnoreiko: easy route: gftp
[05:53] <Seveas> with a space between restricted and universe
[05:53] <roshlame> reka, i have just installed totem-xine, when I play an AVI file it does not produce any sounds
[05:53] <jnoreiko> let me guess... is that command line?
[05:53] <reka> jnoreiko: GUI based.
[05:53] <danba> Seveas: why not a link to www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list :)
[05:53] <jnoreiko> woo! :)
[05:53] <Seveas> jnoreiko, places->connect to server
[05:53] <rg58sma> http://pastebin.com/292730
[05:53] <danba> rg58sma: acknowledged.
[05:53] <reka> roshlame: are you having similar problems with mp3s etc.?
[05:53] <reka> roshlame: also, are you running gnome?
[05:54] <jnoreiko> is gftp included in warty? I don't see it in the menus
[05:54] <roshlame> i run gnome
[05:54] <lillis> there
[05:54] <lillis> thank you Seveas :)
[05:54] <rg58sma> http://pastebin.com/292730
[05:54] <reka> jnoreiko: no.  you need to get it from the repos
[05:54] <roshlame> reka, i can play mp3 files with xmms...
[05:54] <lotusleaf> wget <3
[05:54] <Seveas> jnoreiko, you need to sudo apt-get install it :)
[05:54] <mof> bbl
[05:55] <reka> lotusleaf: too complex for me. :-)  i like how it can download for example all jpegs on a site.
[05:55] <reka> *though
[05:55] <lotusleaf> reka, gwget
[05:55] <Seveas> wget -p, wget -R
[05:55] <danba> rg58sma: lines 79 and 80 are because you have synaptic open, maybe you knew that.
[05:56] <rg58sma> and lines 77 y 78
[05:56] <jnoreiko> fantastic! thanks :)
[05:56] <danba> rg58sma: why is the URL posted twice again?
[05:56] <reka> :-D
[05:56] <reka> thanks lotusleaf
[05:57] <lotusleaf> reka, yw
[05:57] <reka> jnoreiko: np
[05:58] <jnoreiko> dang... installing new apps is so much easier on linux than any other OS :)
[05:59] <danba> rg58sma: in the same screen, and my reply that I got it is right after your first post...please dont do that.
[05:59] <mcquaid> hello, i'm looking into making my own debs, what package provides dh_make?
[05:59] <underdog> mcquaid: packages.debian.org
[05:59] <Seveas> mcquaid, packages.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <mcquaid> eh?
[05:59] <underdog> thei're quite the same, so you can search for package contents there and then apt-get in ubuntu
[05:59] <Seveas> :)
[05:59] <mcquaid> ok
[05:59] <underdog> Seveas: bhaa :P
[05:59] <bob2> mcquaid: www.debian.org/devel/, new maintainer's guide
[06:00] <Seveas> aptitude install maint-guide :)
[06:00] <I_prefer_VectorL> anyone know stuff about the Live cd? im using the Hoary Hedgehog live cd now....
[06:00] <teebones>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY help
[06:00] <danba> rg58sma: i dont know, it worked fine here, you can try changing your IP address, by sudo ifdown eth0 &&sudo ifup eth0 it will make you lose connection to the internet for a second.
[06:01] <JDahl> mcquaid, as always: apt-cache search search dh_make
[06:01] <rg58sma> y have a wlan0
[06:01] <danba> rg58sma: ok, replace that instead of eth0, good catch.
[06:02] <JDahl> mcquaid, it might also be a good idea to grap an official package with apt-get source to see their debian/rules + debian/control files for inspiration
[06:02] <danba> d0z: still there?
[06:02] <danba> ivoks, have some time for a wifi issue?
[06:03] <I_prefer_VectorL> Can Ubuntu Live actually mount my harddisk or am I just not supposed to do this with it?
[06:03] <rg58sma> sudo ifdown wlan0 &&sudo ifup wlan0????
[06:03] <reka> roshlame: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly worked for me.  fixed all sound problems.
[06:03] <danba> rg58sma: try, yes
[06:03] <ivoks> danba: in a minute
[06:03] <reka> I_prefer_VectorL: it mounted mine automatically.
[06:04] <rg58sma> ready and now??
[06:04] <I_prefer_VectorL> hmmzzz...
[06:04] <I_prefer_VectorL> my /mnt is empty...
[06:04] <danba> rg58sma: please do ifconfig in a terminal, and post that to pastebin.com
[06:04] <XandriX> ok wtf ive bin waiting since april to get my ubuntu cds still no confirmation in my email
[06:06] <reka> XandriX: what country?
[06:06] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: are you there?
[06:06] <I_prefer_VectorL> Knoppix mounted it automatically too.... and was much faster
[06:06] <XandriX> canada
[06:06] <danba> I_prefer_VectorL: yes, it should mount your hard disk in read only.
[06:06] <i3dmaster> anyone knows how to adjust the gnome-terminal's shortcut keys?
[06:06] <XandriX> reka, canada
[06:06] <roshlame> reka, thank you
[06:07] <reka> XandriX: : i don't know what the average is. i was told mine would take 10 weeks. but i'm in aus.
[06:07] <I_prefer_VectorL> oh.. wait a sec.... perhaps it's a scsi
[06:07] <reka> roshlame: np
[06:07] <I_prefer_VectorL> But I think not
[06:07] <Johnnyfav> is there an upgrade for Libxrender?
[06:07] <danba> i3dmaster: oh come on:) edit, keyboard shortcuts....
[06:07] <teebones> .
[06:08] <i3dmaster> danba: where and how? I am getting a conflict on one of the vi command
[06:08] <Avinoam> 55 percent downloaded yeay
[06:08] <reka> Johnnyfav: iirc, only security updates will be available in the hoary repos.
[06:08] <I_prefer_VectorL> well.... guess I'd better reboot and check it out...
[06:08] <danba> i3dmaster: open a gnome terminal, CLick on the Edit menu, click on the keyboard Shortcuts option, and set it up.
[06:09] <comcor> anyone have any suggestions about how to get around this twm /etc/alternatives issue on upgrades?
[06:09] <Johnnyfav> so what do I do to upgrade the libxrender?
[06:09] <Avinoam> By the way as far as I know, the bittorrent tracker is up because i'm using it right now
[06:10] <i3dmaster> danba: ok are you talking about gnome-terminal? I am only having Edit current profile and on the tabs of profile, I did not see keyboard shortcuts...
[06:10] <Avinoam> Anyone here have any experience with Ubuntu and USB cable modems?
[06:10] <toran> AIE!
[06:10] <toran> those suck -_-
[06:10] <toran> go ethernet, man
[06:11] <Avinoam> i know i know
[06:11] <Avinoam> i need to get the right cable
[06:11] <i3dmaster> danba: ok sorry, its on the menu.
[06:11] <toran> hmm... I've no experience with them :(
[06:11] <i3dmaster> danba: I did not use menu usually. Thanks man
[06:11] <toran> but I can definately say, ethernet would most likely work, and it would be way faster too
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[06:11] <mof> Avinoam, look at 'tail -f /var/log/messages' when you connect modem
[06:12] <Avinoam> i dunno about way faster
[06:12] <Avinoam> i was getting pretty decent speeds yesterday
[06:12] <IcemanV9> is it possible to use 'terminal server client' to view the desktop on the winxp box???
[06:12] <Avinoam> on knoppix
[06:12] <danba> i3dmaster: hey, glad you worked that out with yourself, cause I was thinking, well, I told him exactly where....
[06:12] <mof> Avinoam, you on knoppix ?
[06:12] <Avinoam> mof i was on knoppix yesterday till i screwed something up
[06:12] <Avinoam> but i want a real install
[06:13] <reka> i don't know french.  did we just get spammed by Cho7?
[06:13] <mof> Avinoam, look at 'tail -f /var/log/messages' when you connect modem
[06:13] <danba> Avinoam: what cable modem model?
[06:13] <OConnor> * Stan22 is now known as Stan22[oqp]
[06:13] <OConnor> * kix<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-fr
[06:13] <Fator_Dee> reka: seems like it
[06:13] <OConnor> * afx<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-fr
[06:13] <mof> watch the output
[06:13] <OConnor> afx en effet avec les lettre dans le bon ordre a marche bcp mieu ':)
[06:13] <OConnor> afx par contre c t dj install 0maj 0up's 0 install
[06:13] <OConnor> afx dc g pas non plus f nawak av que a plante
[06:13] <i3dmaster> danba: ya, sorry about that. looks like when you disable the menu, the right click did not show it anymore
[06:13] <OConnor> kix Bjr , je suis actuelement sous windows ... mais c
[06:14] <Avinoam> danba it's a terayon
[06:14] <Fator_Dee> and it seems OConnor and Cho7 are the same
[06:14] <reka> Fator_Dee: bah, where are the ops today?
[06:14] <danba> no, no, dont be sorry, glad it worked, you are welcome.
[06:14] <Fator_Dee> bob2? Amaranth?
[06:14] <danba> reka, Fator_Dee, we did not get spammed, he pasted to the wrong channel part of his conversation
[06:14] <Fator_Dee> :-o
[06:14] <Amaranth> Fator_Dee: What's up?
[06:14] <Anubis> probably should not hold my breathe for an updated nicotine uh?
[06:14] <danba> Avinoam: well, doesnt that have an ethernet port as well?
[06:15] <darkstego> How does one switch to console in ubuntu... Ctrl+alt+F1 doesn't seem to work
[06:15] <Fator_Dee> Amaranth: might be just a misunderstanding
[06:15] <Avinoam> danba it does but i don't have a cable, i will get one eventually
[06:15] <thoreauputic> dark: it should
[06:15] <Avinoam> dark F1 is your console
[06:15] <Avinoam> F2 would be a new one
[06:16] <reka> Amaranth: we thought we were just spammed.
[06:16] <danba> Avinoam: yes, much easier to get it working, it is called cat5 cable with rj45 \jacks, or popularly jsut an "ethernet" cable...at any store, like office depot, whatever.
[06:16] <darkstego> so its just ctrl+alt+f1?
[06:16] <Avinoam> danba i'm in israel and i don't have a car
[06:16] <Avinoam> ctrl alt f2
[06:16] <Avinoam> to switch
[06:16] <danba> darkstego: are you on an apple?
[06:16] <darkstego> no
[06:16] <darkstego> is there a PPC ubuntu?
[06:16] <reka> yep
[06:17] <darkstego> interesting
[06:17] <darkstego> hmmm
[06:17] <toresbe> What GCC does Ubuntu hoary and/or warty ship with?
[06:17] <darkstego> something is up
[06:17] <thoreauputic> darkstego: should work fine , unless you are not using gdm and F1 is where you started X
[06:17] <reka> toresbe: gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)
[06:17] <toresbe> reka: is that Warty or Hoary?
[06:17] <danba> toresbe: 3.4 I think, not positive.
[06:17] <darkstego> neither f1 nor anything else works
[06:17] <reka> hoary
[06:17] <caine> hey how do i delte all of my history
[06:17] <toresbe> reka: thanks
[06:17] <mof> gcc -v
[06:17] <danba> darkstego: do you have a fn key on the keyboard?
[06:18] <darkstego> no
[06:18] <caine> i know how to delete the browser history, cookies, cache, etc
[06:18] <Avinoam> danba i know what cable i need
[06:18] <Avinoam> i'm a newbie to linux not to computers
[06:18] <reka> toresbe: i think there's a more recent one in the repos.  but that's what i got from the build-essential package
[06:18] <idle-> caine: you mean .bash_history ?
[06:18] <caine> idk
[06:18] <caine> i remember windows kept a log history of like sites you go to and shit and it was so big that i had to delete it
[06:19] <caine> and im guessing linux has it too
[06:19] <mindspin> wrong guesss ?
[06:19] <Fator_Dee> you can delete it from firefoxes preferences
[06:19] <idle-> it should be on guide
[06:19] <caine> factor: i already know about that
[06:19] <thoreauputic> caine: I think logrotate takes care of that - and firefox has a default history setting of 9 days
[06:19] <mindspin> are youtalking about "temporary Internet Files"?
[06:20] <caine> but im not talking about the browser history only
[06:20] <caine> im talking about all the history
[06:20] <Gerrath> I'm trying to get a good understanding of devices in Linux (Ubuntu).  Ubuntu uses devfs correct?
[06:20] <caine> what files youve opened and all that gr8 stuff
[06:20] <Fator_Dee> caine: but they are just plain textfiles, it would take a long time before they took up a lot of scace
[06:20] <Avinoam> what number of KB signifies 64MB?
[06:20] <Fator_Dee> *space
[06:20] <fabs> Hello All
[06:20] <thakat> Hello,  I am a recovering windows user.  My last windows encounter was just days ago.  Just dl'd America's Army and have no idea how to install it.  Any ideas?
[06:20] <caine> factor: beleive me its not the space im worried about ok
[06:21] <Echelon-H> hi there, is there no quicktime plugin for firefox under linux?
[06:21] <caine> echelon-h: yes there is
[06:21] <danba> Echelon-H: correct.
[06:21] <fabs> Guys, why do I receive this error in my webbrowser when I try to load a page with Flash content: The plugin initialization failed
[06:21] <Fator_Dee> caine: you worried that someone will hack into your account :-p
[06:21] <ivoks> who called ivoks? :)
[06:21] <reka> caine: lol. something to hide?
[06:21] <caine> factor: no im not worried about that
[06:21] <danba> ivoks, I did.
[06:21] <caine> my parents are too fuckin nosy
[06:21] <caine> sry about the laung
[06:21] <caine> i forgot
[06:21] <Fator_Dee> caine: just lock the screen
[06:21] <danba> just a sec, ivoks.
[06:21] <ivoks> danba: state your rank, solidare :)
[06:22] <reka> Echelon-H: mplayer plugin takes care of that i think
[06:22] <mindspin> and they are linux experts?
[06:22] <mindspin> cool parents
[06:22] <danba> soldier:-p
[06:22] <caine> oh yes very cool lemme tell ya
[06:22] <caine> some how they know all my passwords no matter what
[06:22] <Avinoam> i hope that the installer is wicked easy
[06:22] <ivoks> damn... english
[06:22] <mindspin> hahah
[06:22] <mindspin> to simple
[06:22] <Fator_Dee> caine: well, change to a new one
[06:22] <danba> I know...youre croatian...
[06:22] <mindspin> maybe
[06:22] <mindspin> social engineering ;-)
[06:22] <caine> factor: been there..done that
[06:22] <mof> caine, john the ripper
[06:23] <Fator_Dee> mof: but it would take a while to crack a password :-p
[06:23] <danba> ivoks, I dont need help myself, I need you to help this one guy, trying to get a hold of him,
[06:23] <fabs> Guys, anyone could help with flash probs here?
[06:23] <Fator_Dee> if it was proper
[06:23] <ivoks> danba: :)
[06:23] <Shuddert2ix> You'd figure that my clone would die..
[06:23] <toinou> hello
[06:23] <Shinaku> one more problem
[06:23] <Echelon-H> will mozzila-mplayer work with firefox?
[06:23] <ArthurSensei> is there an equivalent to debian testing/unstable in ubuntu
[06:23] <danba> fabs sudo aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla
[06:23] <mindspin> minimum 7 digits, numbers , upper and lowercase  that will help
[06:23] <Avinoam> the debian installer is a pain in the anus
[06:23] <reka> Echelon-H: yes
[06:23] <mof> Fackamato, just run jtr on many machines
[06:23] <caine> i once had a password that was "13467919738246"
[06:23] <caine> and they knew that one too
[06:24] <mof> Fator_Dee, , just run jtr on many machines
[06:24] <Fator_Dee> mof: I noticed
[06:24] <fabs> danba, thanks but I think I got it, but it still shows me that silly error on the bottom of the browser...
[06:24] <mindspin> its only numbers no prob for pwcracking progs
[06:24] <reka> caine: you didn't check the save passwrod box did you? ;-)
[06:24] <Fator_Dee> mof: but still, it would take a lot of time
[06:24] <caine> hell no
[06:24] <danba> fabs, is it a trailer site, for streaming media?
[06:24] <d0z> I'm experiencing some problem with my Inprocomm IPN 2220 wifi card. Everything looks fine when I modprobe ndiswrapper. But I can't change settings with iwconfig.
[06:24] <caine> plus this was on windows before
[06:24] <Shinaku> I do apt-get update
[06:24] <Fator_Dee> caine: some keylogger?
[06:24] <fabs> danba, nope just the menu is in Flash
[06:25] <Shinaku> and it says 0% {connecting to us.archive.ubuntu...
[06:25] <Shinaku> and just stops at that
[06:25] <caine> factor: i dont think so
[06:25] <Fator_Dee> caine: no wonder if that was on windows and they knew your pass :-p
[06:25] <caine> but im not sure
[06:25] <danba> fabs, link me,
[06:25] <Shinaku> DNS works fine
[06:25] <mof> Fator_Dee, not if you have 10 machines
[06:25] <danba> d0z: ?
[06:25] <Shinaku> and it's aiming for <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:25] <mindspin> Shinaku no route to host?
[06:25] <mof> for 10 pw
[06:25] <mindspin> nameserverprobs?
[06:25] <caine> i was the person who installed my com
[06:25] <caine> *comp
[06:25] <Fator_Dee> mof: usually you don't have acces to that many machines
[06:25] <Shinaku> nope, can't be
[06:25] <Gerrath> I remember reading that there were two device file systems that were popular, devfs was one, what is the other?
[06:25] <caine> no one else was in the room when i set all my stuff
[06:25] <Fator_Dee> mof: ordinary persons don't
[06:25] <Shinaku> I can wget from sites fine
[06:25] <fabs> danba, http://www.visualdesigner.net
[06:25] <mof> ok......
[06:26] <Echelon-H> how can I set a command to run on startup?
[06:26] <thoreauputic> Shinaku: is the URL pingable ?
[06:26] <danba> d0z: can you read this?
[06:26] <Loop_NZ> yes
[06:26] <Shinaku> no
[06:26] <Shinaku> root@Sparky:/home/sparky # ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:26] <Shinaku> PING us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:26] <d0z> Yes danba.
[06:26] <danba> are you d0z?
[06:26] <Loop_NZ> sorry
[06:26] <reka> Echelon-H: system->prefs->sessions : startup programs (assuming gnome)
[06:26] <fabs> danba, it seems to be installing, that means I didn't have it installed properly perhaps, cos I tried to do it via Synaptic...
[06:26] <thoreauputic> Shinaku: so the server is down, obviously
[06:27] <Shuddertrix> Gerrath: udev?
[06:27] <danba> ivoks - d0z, d0z - ivoks...nice to meet you both...:)
[06:27] <danba> fabs, jsut a sec.
[06:27] <Shinaku> ah.. Ubuntu's server is down
[06:27] <Echelon-H> reka, and assuming xfce?
[06:27] <ivoks> d0z: hi
[06:27] <thoreauputic> Shinaku: if you can't ping it...
[06:27] <d0z> Hello ivoks. I can't figure out what's wrong with my wifi.
[06:27] <reka> Echelon-H: join #xfce :-)  you probably have to edit some config file
[06:27] <fabs> danba, sure, hmm still same
[06:27] <ivoks> d0z: so... your wifi card is?
[06:27] <Shinaku> I can ping it from this box though
[06:27] <Gerrath> Shuddertrix, udev thats it, its the newer one correct?
[06:27] <mindspin> caine with aknoppix cd on hand you'll have no problem to access nearly any computer
[06:28] <danba> fabs, yes it does not work here neither. perhaps it is too advanced.
[06:28] <Echelon-H> reka, k
[06:28] <nihao> is it true that, to support Grub splash image, kernel framebuffer should be enabled?
[06:28] <mindspin> if you got physical access to it
[06:28] <Shuddertrix> Gerrath: I think so
[06:28] <d0z> Inprocomm IPN 2220 chipset. I had it up and running under debian but not under ubuntu.
[06:28] <danba> fabs: on the other hand, maybe it is java, have taht working?
[06:28] <Gerrath> Shuddertrix, it supports hot swapping, does Ubuntu use it or devfs?
[06:29] <ivoks> d0z: do you remember what modules you used?
[06:29] <fabs> danba, oh u are right, well anyway I could try to re-install it? Via Synaptic? Oh try this, it was working b4 http://www.m2o.it
[06:29] <Echelon-H> can anyone please tell me how can I change my nickname in XChat PERMANENTLY?
[06:29] <mof> Gerrath, hald isn't it ?
[06:29] <jnoreiko> anyone here use skype?
[06:29] <Shinaku> ahh, it's back
[06:29] <reka> Echelon-H: xchat->serverlist
[06:29] <Echelon-H> jnoreiko, me
[06:29] <Shuddertrix> Gerrath: Not sure..
[06:29] <Echelon-H> reka, tried that. for some reason it always comes back to my linux username
[06:29] <ivoks> d0z: ?
[06:30] <jnoreiko> I just ran dpkg -i with the latest .deb, and launched skype again, and it still says the old version number in About
[06:30] <Loop_NZ> I intend to use Skype but I don't yet
[06:30] <caine> mindspin: what are you talking about?
[06:30] <fabs> danba, also because I did install VB6 with CrossOver and it did play about with java stuff, so u are prob right
[06:30] <mof> i think suse were the once who use devfs
[06:30] <danba> fabs, yeah, that is a quicktime type of thing, embedded video... mplayer needed for that, and it does not always work... http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer .
[06:30] <mindspin> If I have a knoppix cd and access to your rom drive, I can fetch any data on that machine
[06:31] <ArthurSensei> any1 has a realplayer linux that works properly?
[06:31] <slept> does anyone know how I can make xfce shutdown without passwd ?
[06:31] <danba> fabs, referring to the second site.
[06:31] <reka> Echelon-H: try and put Echelon-H in all the text boxes.
[06:31] <mindspin> i mean everybody can do that, not only me
[06:31] <thoreauputic> jnoreiko: probably a different path to the executable
[06:31] <d0z> ivoks: Yes, I have downloaded the same windows drivers. Then I fetched ndiswrapper with apt. When I modprobe everything looks fine.
[06:31] <Echelon-H> i don't think it'll do any difference.
[06:31] <Echelon-H> i tried changing them all anyway
[06:31] <danba> slept, run a sudo command within 15 seconds before shutting down:-p
[06:31] <Echelon-H> but the moment i'm doing reset it's coming back to echeln
[06:31] <fabs> danba, strange though it used to work, but I have just realized no java is installed in my sys
[06:31] <Echelon-H> *echelon
[06:31] <ivoks> d0z: ok, does iwconfig shows you anything?
[06:32] <slept> danba, then I can just enter the passwd
[06:32] <jnoreiko> how do I update the locate db?
[06:32] <d0z> ivoks: Yes, I parse you it privatly.
[06:32] <danba> fabs, I have 3 at least installed, still it does not work, I broke it somewhere, but I dont care enough yet to fix it...
[06:32] <thoreauputic> jnoreiko: sudo updatedb
[06:32] <ivoks> d0z: don't :)
[06:32] <Gerrath> I think from what I have read Ubuntu uses udev and not devfs, can anyone confirm this for me?
[06:32] <ivoks> d0z: it's nice if it shows you anything...
[06:33] <mindspin> you can also get ERD tools to get acces to any windows machine (works not on linux )
[06:33] <ivoks> d0z: you don't have to paste all that details
[06:33] <mof> jnoreiko, updatedb
[06:33] <fabs> danba, yes, I think i have done the same... thanks a lot for ur help anyway!!
[06:33] <ivoks> khm...
[06:33] <danba> welcome.
[06:33] <ivoks> read BEFORE you type
[06:33] <d0z> ivoks: Ok, it's not that much.
[06:33] <reka> Echelon-H: try enabling "global user info" in a server's edit popup
[06:33] <d0z> ivoks: I can scan and find my ap, but not connect to it.
[06:33] <ivoks> d0z: so.. where is the problem?
[06:33] <mindspin> btw. I know also everything my son is doing on his computer ;-)
[06:33] <danba> d0z: you can also use http://pastebin.com or the like, or #flood
[06:34] <slept> whats the difference between gnome and xfce shutdown ?
[06:34] <ivoks> d0z: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu
[06:34] <ivoks> d0z: download wifi-radar and install it
[06:34] <d0z> ivoks: I can't connect, thats the problem.
[06:34] <slept> mindspin, you should respect privacy
[06:34] <reka> slept: one is done in gnome and the other in xfce?
[06:34] <d0z> ivoks: Is there an .deb?
[06:35] <d0z> danba: Ok.
[06:35] <mindspin> my son is twelfe
[06:35] <ivoks> d0z: yes
[06:35] <mindspin> twelve
[06:35] <ivoks> d0z: that's a deb
[06:35] <Echelon-H> reka, it is enabled.
[06:35] <mindspin> so I'm responsible for what he's doing
[06:35] <Echelon-H> :\
[06:35] <danba> slept, nice
[06:36] <ivoks> d0z: does 'iwlist wlan0 scan' shows you your AP?
[06:36] <reka> mindspin: just curious, at what age will you "slacken the leash"?  i agree that 12 yr olds should be monitored
[06:36] <daba> well, this account is in xchat, Ill try...
[06:37] <mindspin> reka, that depends, I think on what he's doing
[06:37] <bytheway> quit
[06:37] <bytheway> oops
[06:37] <d0z> ivoks: Yes.
[06:37] <ivoks> d0z: so... where is problem?! :)
[06:37] <ivoks> d0z: does your AP allows you to connect?
[06:37] <d0z> ivoks: iwlist ath0 peers. Don't show my client. :)
[06:37] <drcode> hi all
[06:37] <mindspin> as much freedom as possible and as much control as necessary, that's my approach
[06:37] <ivoks> d0z: ath0?
[06:37] <drcode> any one read about the israel torjen?
[06:38] <Fator_Dee> mindspin: better to keep monitoring until he developes common sense :-)
[06:38] <drcode> in the news?
[06:38] <ivoks> d0z: wlan0, not ath0
[06:38] <reka> mindspin: sounds reasonable
[06:38] <d0z> ivoks: It's an debian system that runs as ap. :)
[06:38] <ivoks> d0z: you have wifi interface on wlan0, not ath0
[06:38] <slept> is there a ubuntu  channel for xfce ?
[06:39] <Fator_Dee> slept: #ubuntux
[06:39] <mindspin> and I have no problem with him, looking for naked girls sometimes, cause that is natural for that age
[06:39] <d0z> ivoks: My clients wifi card is wlan0. My gateway behind the tv that's act ap is ath0.
[06:39] <slept> thanks
[06:39] <Fator_Dee> mindspin: :-)
[06:39] <ivoks> d0z: so what?!
[06:39] <ivoks> d0z: you are scanning on wlan0, not ath0
[06:39] <mindspin> It#s more for security reasons and personalshooter stuff I#m afraid of
[06:39] <ivoks> d0z: i don't care what you have for AP
[06:39] <reka> mindspin: personalshooter?
[06:39] <mindspin> games
[06:40] <d0z> ivoks: Hheh yes that's very true. But scanning and being connected isn't the same thing.
[06:40] <ivoks> d0z: just run 'iwlist wlan0 scan'
[06:40] <ivoks> d0z: does it show you your AP?
[06:40] <Fator_Dee> mindspin: as long as he knows that they are only games I'd think it's ok
[06:40] <jnoreiko> I have a skype in /usr/bin and one in /opt/skype_staticQT-<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:40] <jnoreiko> and neither of them run from the command line. don't know which one is running from gnome menu
[06:40] <d0z> ivoks: Yes.
[06:41] <Fator_Dee> mindspin: I didn't grow up to be a nutcase even if I liked to play mortal kombat when i was 10 or something :-)
[06:41] <mindspin> my view on this is very ambivalent coz I dislike those games very much
[06:41] <d0z> ivoks: But the quality isn't that good.
[06:41] <daba> Fator_Dee, better things to do for a 12 year old...
[06:41] <Fator_Dee> daba: of course
[06:41] <mindspin> he#s playing MI on the xbox
[06:41] <mindspin> that should be enough
[06:41] <ivoks> d0z: just download taht wifi-radar and copy it with usbstick or something
[06:41] <daba> I did too, tho, MK, Doom2, and such...
[06:41] <ArthurSensei> mindspin> learn him chess :)
[06:41] <ivoks> d0z: run it from menu and connect yo your AP
[06:41] <mindspin> hehe
[06:42] <Fator_Dee> mindspin: or go
[06:42] <d0z> ivoks: Yes i've tried disable it but it still doesn't work.
[06:42] <ivoks> d0z: disabling what?
[06:42] <mindspin> If a game is free for 16++ its not for twelve year olds
[06:42] <mindspin> but in fact its not a big problem
[06:43] <d0z> ivoks: The encryption. Just a moment I'll see what wifi-radar have to say.
[06:43] <d0z> ivoks: You can do wonderfull things with ssh I control both the ap and client.
[06:43] <ivoks> :)
[06:44] <ivoks> that's why i'm still 23 :)
[06:44] <ivoks> lol, wrong channel
[06:44] <mindspin> he's surfing via squid and once a week I have a short look at what he's up to
[06:44] <Echelon-H> Ugh, I'm depreessed.
[06:44] <Echelon-H> my computer can run Republic Commando :\
[06:44] <Echelon-H> *cn't
[06:44] <Echelon-H> *can't.
[06:44] <slon> hah, you were in #naughty_girls, werent you?
[06:45] <reka> mindspin: so *has* he been looking at naked women?
[06:45] <mindspin> sure
[06:45] <Echelon-H> reka, lol
[06:45] <Fator_Dee> Echelon-H: go take a hike (I mean, running is a great way to enhance your general feeling)
[06:45] <reka> Echelon-H: it had to be asked.
[06:45] <slon> reka, in facgt mindspin mentioned that earlier.
[06:46] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, im usually running on fridays :P
[06:46] <Fator_Dee> Echelon-H: make an exception :-)
[06:46] <slon> as something that is not too bad, he guesses...
[06:46] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, nah, it's late by now.
[06:46] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, to run, I mean.
[06:46] <Echelon-H> anyways, playing a guitar > running.
[06:46] <slon> well, Echelon-H that worked.....
[06:46] <slept> how does gnome do the shoutdown /  as which user ?
[06:47] <ArthurSensei> is shutdown -h now ok for ubuntu
[06:47] <slon> slept, my xfce does not ask me as yours does you.
[06:47] <IcemanV9> ArthurSensei: yes
[06:47] <mindspin> ArthurSensei  sudo init 0
[06:48] <Echelon-H> ugh, I need to go and get ready for some math test... Was nice to meet you.
[06:48] <tarvid> any modem recommendations?
[06:48] <Tezkah> so I want to start a program on startup, and when I start it, I have to use "sudo athcool on"
[06:48] <Tezkah> how can I make it automagically run?
[06:48] <puls1on> hi every body, anyone can help me plz?
[06:48] <danba> !fr
[06:48] <reka> Tezkah: system->prefs->sessions : startup programs tab
[06:49] <reka> ... i think
[06:49] <danba> Echelon-H: once you change it, hit connect.
[06:49] <Tezkah> for KDE? :P
[06:49] <danba> oops, taht was a little scrolled up.
[06:49] <mindspin> Tezkah sudo is only necessary for administration issues
[06:49] <puls1on> anyone can help me plz?
[06:49] <danba> puls1on: please ask your question
[06:50] <d0z> ivoks: Ok, got it up and running, couldn't find a .deb though.
[06:50] <reka> Tezkah: no, those were gnome instructions. :-p
[06:50] <mindspin> Tezkah sudo kcontrol
[06:50] <slept> puls1on, just ask
[06:50] <Tezkah> mindspin: athcool : must run as root. exit
[06:50] <danba> I can help you if you ask about something I can help with.
[06:50] <Echelon-H> danba, had a small delay?
[06:50] <danba> heh, no, no...
[06:50] <danba> I was in xchat trying to see how to do it...
[06:50] <mindspin> so you have to run it sudo
[06:50] <djp> does gnome-bluetooth work under hoary?
[06:50] <ivoks> d0z: lol, there are 4-5 files... one is deb :)
[06:50] <shido6> if you change the domain on a sip device and can no longer get to that device via its web interface how do you make your network appear to be that domain ( using linux as a router and dns server here)
[06:50] <d0z> ivoks: On the homepage?
[06:51] <shido6> the device believes the domain is bleh.bleh.bleh
[06:51] <danba> Echelon-H: heh, no, no...
[06:51] <puls1on> i want to see in my files system the others prtitions of my HDD, they are 2 in NTS and 1 in FAT32, how can i do that? now, in my /etc/mnt , i don't see anything
[06:51] <ivoks> d0z: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/wifi-radar_1.9.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[06:51] <Gerrath> Shuddertrix, Thanks for the help, I just searched my processes and found the udevd is running so I guess Ubuntu does use edev.
[06:51] <shido6> how do i make my network appear to be the domain bleh.bleh.bleh
[06:51] <shido6> ?
[06:51] <danba> Echelon-H: I was in xchat trying to see how to do it...but I left this scrolled up.
[06:51] <reka> puls1on: ubuntuguide.org
[06:51] <Gerrath> Shuddertrix, I mean udev..typo
[06:51] <Echelon-H> danba, Oh.. thanks anyway, i hope it'll work
[06:51] <d0z> ivoks: Well I downloaded it from http://www.bitbuilder.com/wifi_radar/.
[06:51] <Echelon-H> i just dont wanna reset now
[06:51] <ivoks> d0z: no, man...
[06:51] <danba> Echelon-H: do you hit connect after you change the name
[06:51] <danba> ?
[06:51] <ivoks> ah..
[06:51] <puls1on> that's all?
[06:52] <danba> haha, d0z:-p
[06:52] <tarvid> which modems does ubuntu recognize and configure directly?
[06:52] <Echelon-H> danba, now I did
[06:52] <Echelon-H> but i doubt it'll work
[06:52] <danba> no, puls1on, Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Ubuntu peuvent venir sur #ubuntu-fr for one... then also, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions .
[06:52] <d0z> ivoks: ?? confused isn't it the same piece of software?
[06:52] <nihao> I see nothing in firefox when accessing http://www.gou-gou.com/cgi-bin/bbs/leobbs.cgi, why?
[06:52] <danba> echelon, sometimes it does, try...:)
[06:52] <danba> nihao, to start off...
[06:52] <puls1on> merci beaucoup :) :)
[06:52] <ivoks> d0z: this one is packaged for ubuntu
[06:52] <ogi_> puls1on, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[06:53] <Echelon-H> i'll reboot only to see if it works
[06:53] <Echelon-H> Wish me luck...
[06:53] <reka> danba: i'm impressed.
[06:53] <ivoks> d0z: it autom. recognizes your card, shows in menu, has man page, etc, etc...
[06:53] <danba> puls1on: got that from the bot, though, I dont speak french, altho I am in Canada now.
[06:53] <iceman2K> cool .. installing ubuntu on my wifes pc ..
[06:53] <nihao> danba: what do you mean??
[06:53] <danba> reka: by what? Ive been here for a while...
[06:53] <reka> danba: i'm not impressed anymore
[06:53] <ivoks> d0z: upstream version doesn't have all of that
[06:53] <danba> nihao means hi,.
[06:53] <danba> so I said, hi, to start off.
[06:53] <iceman2K> can just do a file xfer of the repositories
[06:53] <reka> :-)
[06:53] <puls1on> thx all, u 're nice  :)
[06:54] <IcemanV9> iceman2K: ha. does ur wife know about this?! ;)
[06:54] <danba> man, that echelon-h needs to sstop rebooting.
[06:54] <danba> youre welcome, puls1on.
[06:54] <slon> yes, youre welcome...
[06:54] <nihao> danba: glad to know that you know it.
[06:54] <slon> ah....
[06:55] <danba> nihao, that is unfortunately as much as I know of chinese, except xie xie...
[06:55] <iceman2K> IcemanV9 yep ... could not control her windows 98 ... to many viruses
[06:55] <d0z> ivoks: Ok, iv'e changed package now.
[06:56] <IcemanV9> iceman2K: heh. glad that your wife is willing to use Ubuntu as mine did. :)
[06:56] <reka> icemen: i love convert stories. :-)
[06:56] <iceman2K> IcemanV9 i'm impressed by ubuntu .. more that a lot of distros ...
[06:56] <mindspin> reka really?
[06:56] <_hp_> i kind of want to go back to windows to run my photoshop cs2, itunes and 3ds max
[06:56] <ivoks> d0z: start it from menu or sudo wifi-radar
[06:56] <d0z> ivoks: This is what I get. First column a question mark. Then it's locked, good signal, managed, and the incredible performance that 802.11g delivers. :)
[06:56] <reka> mindspin: yes, really.
[06:56] <_hp_> still windows free though
[06:56] <Echelon-H> _hp_, wine?
[06:56] <nihao> :-) OK, maybe you also know "zai jian" means good bye or c u...
[06:57] <slon> I worship danba too...cause he is very much like me...
[06:57] <mindspin> wanna here how I became atheist ? haha ;-)
[06:57] <_hp_> Echelon-H: wine runs only photoshop 7.0 and 3ds max will not start at all
[06:57] <ivoks> d0z: click connect
[06:57] <slept> _hp_, did you try gimp blender amarok ?
[06:57] <Echelon-H> _hp_, i see...
[06:57] <mof> bye
[06:57] <ivoks> d0z: enter your WEP key and you should be good
[06:57] <_hp_> slept: i've tried gimp... it's a far shot from photoshop cs2
[06:57] <danba> gimpshop?
[06:57] <iceman2K> I still cant find the "ANY KEY" on my keyboard ...
[06:58] <reka> mindspin: that's not really a conversion.  wouldn't that be rejection> :-)
[06:58] <danba> nihao: yeah, I knew taht, too, youre right.
[06:58] <Echelon-H> iceman2K, hehee
[06:58] <caine> do any of you guys use apollon?
[06:58] <_hp_> slept: does blender have a reactor type deal?
[06:58] <mindspin> ok, depends of your point of view
[06:58] <danba> kam bej, too:)
[06:58] <slept> _hp_, never used photoshop
[06:58] <Echelon-H> iceman2K, reminds me of StarCraft *drop of tear*
[06:58] <danba> kam bei
[06:58] <reka> mindspin: lol, i guess
[06:59] <mindspin> kam bei was ?
[06:59] <danba> caine, why, I dont...
[06:59] <_hp_> slept: i find it a lot better and easier to use than gimp because i am so used to it
[06:59] <caine> if anybody could help me fix apollon that would gr8
[06:59] <caine> idk whats wrong with it
[06:59] <danba> mindspin, cheers in mandarin chinese.
[06:59] <iceman2K> Dang wish loki software were available ..
[06:59] <mindspin> I c
[06:59] <caine> it it gives me this "Sorry, I couldn't locate your giFT installation,please select the path to your giFT like /.../share/giFT"
[06:59] <slept> _hp_, I can't tell  I tryed to use it long time ago and there were many many ...
[06:59] <nihao> danba: can you solve my technical problem? it seems that firefox can't render the page for correctly http://www.gou-gou.com/cgi-bin/bbs/leobbs.cgi
[07:00] <slept> _hp_, blender
[07:00] <pestilence> danba: it's "gan bei" not "kam bej"
[07:00] <danba> caine, Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement.  Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Does it waste its time on IRC all day long?  Please be specific!  Define 'it' and what it isn't doing.
[07:00] <danba> pestilence: thank you.
[07:00] <_hp_> slept: at least blender is cheaper than 3ds max ;) ... makes upgrading a lot easier
[07:00] <caine> danba:  your a little late
[07:00] <caine> caine it it gives me this "Sorry, I couldn't locate your giFT installation,please select the path to your giFT like /.../share/giFT"
[07:00] <dr_willis> :)
[07:00] <reka> danba: hehe, give him a break.
[07:00] <ezequiel> how could I get the flash player working in my ubuntu for amd64?
[07:00] <danba> caine, that is what dpkg on #debian says when you say dont work:)
[07:01] <caine> lol
[07:01] <danba> I just went to get it, I like the statement:)
[07:01] <reka> danba: egads, you've run into dpkg as well?
[07:01] <caine> you need to work on ur timing
[07:01] <dr_willis> ezequiel,  good luck :P i think its going to take a little work.
[07:01] <caine> so can anybody help me
[07:01] <reka> danba: is he really a bot?
[07:01] <caine> it it gives me this "Sorry, I couldn't locate your giFT installation,please select the path to your giFT like /.../share/giFT"
[07:02] <mindspin> locate giFT ?
[07:02] <ezequiel> dr_willis, can't it be wrapped through the linux32?
[07:02] <danba> yes, he is a bot.
[07:03] <reka> danba: well don't i look stupid.  i called him an oaf!
[07:03] <reka> lmao
[07:03] <danba> caine, would you like to try sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella ? or do you need to use apollon?
[07:03] <cknwings> I'm having a issue with error during boot of ubuntu, pci...lotsonumber. @ata;3 blahblahblah.. basicly my install is hosted, i need to repair it, but ive 150gb of data i dont want to loose in the /home folder... would i loose this by running a Repair (if there is such a thing)?
[07:04] <danba> nihao: this is what tghe top of the page looks like on my computer... www.mts.net/~danb/Screenshot-5.png
[07:04] <cknwings> wiki has 0 relevant hits on repair intsallation, google basicly the same... how can this be? :)
[07:04] <danba> nihao, is that the right way for the page to be?
[07:04] <danba> reka, well, somewhat:)
[07:04] <slept> cknwings, do you have ext3 filesystem ?
[07:04] <danba> youll learn.
[07:04] <danba> makes you look new, to me...
[07:05] <cknwings> yes ext3, and im able to mout teh drive and read the data by running the livcCD
[07:05] <danba> people with a small vocabulary may choose stupid...
[07:05] <cknwings> slept, i just dont have another drive to pit it all... heh, then id just copy it and reintsall everything with new partition for /home but thats to late now i guess
[07:05] <roshlame> when i start xine-ui there is this message on the window title "xine: There is no mrl."
[07:06] <slept> cknwings, for fschk you don't mount the drive
[07:06] <lillis> I am having some major issues with ubuntu/fluxbox and fonts.. I can see the fonts in xfontsel, and I can use "aterm -font edges" to get the edges font in aterm et cetera... but the styles refuse to pick up the new fonts. What can I possibly do wrong? I have the swedish artwiz fonts and i have tried "Egdes.se" "edges.se" "Edges" and "edges", nothing works.
[07:06] <danba> pestilence: you can imagine why someone would learn gan bei wrong;)
[07:06] <roshlame> it plays avi files but i don't hear any sound
[07:06] <ogi_> What distros support r/w on NTFS?
[07:06] <reka> lol.  iirc they someone told me dpkg was a bot but i didn't register it.  basically i asked a question about dpkg and had links to an ubuntu pastebin.  so i guess someone invoked the bot.  he said something like "just because the morons in #ubuntu couldn't help doesn't mean you can dump your question here."
[07:07] <cknwings> ogi, none afaik, the w feature is very unstable and not recommended
[07:07] <danba> reka, nice...
[07:07] <Timbo> #debian is pretty poor for the OMG N00B FLAME HIM syndrome
[07:07] <danba> Timbo: how often do you go there?
[07:08] <Fikrann> ogi_, none. You might be interested in Captive ntfs driver, but be warned, its VERY SLOW
[07:08] <d0z> ivoks: Wow, that program was simple. But it didn't work.
[07:08] <reka> Timbo: yes, i learned that.
[07:08] <cknwings> slept, ill try to run fschk, but if i want to Reinstall the system WITHOUT touching the content in /hom is this possible?
[07:08] <Timbo> danba: whenever i have a debian problem
[07:08] <Timbo> that i can't solve myself
[07:08] <ivoks> d0z: then your AP is broken
[07:08] <danba> so pretty often?
[07:08] <Timbo> or via the bts
[07:08] <ivoks> d0z: you didn't set it up well
[07:09] <danba> I mean, more than 4 times?
[07:09] <d0z> ivoks: No it's not because my neighbour is using it aswell.
[07:09] <ivoks> d0z: don't use WEP, it's crap...
[07:09] <nihao> danba: yes! but my firefox is unable to display it. just blank page....
[07:09] <ivoks> d0z: do you have MAC filter maybe?
[07:09] <slept> cknwings, why do you want to reinstall ? Did you mess up things that bad ?
[07:09] <caine> danba: i just need to use a file sharing system like kazaa or gnutella that works
[07:09] <d0z> ivoks: Yes I know. But that's the only thing that my neighbours crappy d-link can handle.
[07:09] <danba> nihao, it uses flash and java, probably.
[07:09] <Avinoam> I understand that Ubuntu doesn't let you use root?
[07:09] <caine> and apollon came with it so i installed it
[07:09] <caine> but its not working correctly
[07:09] <dr_willis> Avinoam,  thats totally false. :P
[07:09] <ivoks> d0z: ?
[07:09] <danba> caine, then do the install command I told you, are you in kde?
[07:10] <ivoks> d0z: d-links can filter on MAC address
[07:10] <dr_willis> Avinoam,  you just cant 'login' straight to root. (but thats eaially changed)
[07:10] <Avinoam> Dr, that's what distrowatch said
[07:10] <Avinoam> oh i see
[07:10] <d0z> ivoks: I do filter pretty hard but not on mac yet. I think. Perhaps I should look into that.
[07:10] <Juhaz> Avinoam, ubuntu doesn't let you log in as root, but it does let you use it trough sudo
[07:10] <danba> nihao: do you awnt to install flash and Java?
[07:10] <Avinoam> they said on distrowatch to use sudo?
[07:10] <caine> and yet if i knew what kde was i could answer that ?
[07:10] <slept> danba, caine ,aMule is nice for filesharing
[07:10] <Timbo> danba: yes
[07:10] <Avinoam> sudo and then whatever command?
[07:10] <dr_willis> distrowatch is wrong then :P
[07:10] <ivoks> d0z: for start, set up your AP as open, without any filtering
[07:10] <reka> Avinoam: yes.
[07:10] <caine> im gettin gnutella now
[07:10] <d0z> ivoks: Yes I know but MAC filter isn't that safe either.
[07:10] <ivoks> d0z: then try to connect
[07:10] <Avinoam> ok
[07:10] <nihao> danba: I have installed flash and java. for other pages, they work.
[07:10] <Avinoam> i'm gonna burn the CD
[07:11] <ivoks> d0z: if that works, then harden your AP
[07:11] <danba> timbo, cool, just wondering, a lot of trolls there, I agree, ithe whole channel altogether is not too bad, it does not hurt to flame newbies sometimes, to teach them.
[07:11] <nihao> danba: I don't if this "cgi" service matters...
[07:11] <lillis> I am having some major issues with ubuntu/fluxbox and fonts.. I can see the fonts in xfontsel, and I can use "aterm -font edges" to get the edges font in aterm et cetera... but the styles refuse to pick up the new fonts. What can I possibly do wrong? I have the swedish artwiz fonts and i have tried "Egdes.se" "edges.se" "Edges" and "edges", nothing works.
[07:11] <caine> i have flash installed but i think there somthing wrong somewhere on my comp
[07:11] <danba> shouldnt. It is server side.
[07:11] <caine> or i havnt installed something
[07:11] <caine> because some stuff for flash wont work
[07:11] <caine> and other will
[07:11] <d0z> ivoks: I'll try some more, thanks for all the help both you ivoks and danba.
[07:11] <Timbo> yes, it's almost fair enough in #debian or #gentoo
[07:11] <caine> and all of them were using flash 7
[07:11] <cknwings> well, i booted and i get a funny error..."/pci@800000000/pci-bridge/pci-ata@1/@0/disk@0;3,boot/vmlinux:input / output error
[07:11] <Fikrann> lillis, use fluxconf?
[07:11] <ivoks> d0z: bottom line: you wifi works
[07:12] <Timbo> but it pains me to see people get flamed for not knowing what 'ls' is for example
[07:12] <lillis> huh?
[07:12] <ivoks> d0z: it can connect to you wifi network, but it is closed four you
[07:12] <Timbo> when they're made a genuine effort to try something new (linux)
[07:12] <cknwings> and as far as i can see that error occured after a synaptic update... i just dont know which (a friends got exactly teh same error and he had to reinstall to fix it)
[07:12] <ogi_> How am I going to get files quckly and painlessly from ubuntu tu windows...
[07:12] <caine> danba: now what do i do....go to synaptic?
[07:12] <reka> Timbo: i agree
[07:12] <lillis> Fikrann: How/where?
[07:12] <caine> ogi: ur not
[07:12] <d0z> ivoks: My wifi works for my my neigbour but not for me yet. Well I have TP so it's not that urgent.
[07:12] <caine> i have the same problem
[07:12] <Avinoam> hopefully, i'll be back here after i install and get internet working
[07:12] <reka> but then again i was flamed myself
[07:12] <Avinoam> :)
[07:12] <ivoks> d0z: your wifi card WORKS
[07:12] <d0z> ivoks: Yes, that's correct. :)
[07:12] <caine> ogi: what ever you do, do not get wine
[07:12] <reka> Avinoam: good luck
[07:13] <Avinoam> thank you
[07:13] <Fikrann> lillis, there's a tool, fluxconf, it might be able to set fonts for fluxbox.
[07:13] <ivoks> d0z: you don't have to do anything on ubuntu
[07:13] <caine> ogi: go find a free version of crossover
[07:13] <ivoks> d0z: only on your AP
[07:13] <caine> or buy it
[07:13] <danba> timbo, yeah, sure...
[07:13] <ogi_> caine, why is that? :P
[07:13] <danba> but, caine is about to get flamed...
[07:13] <Timbo> hehe
[07:13] <danba> caine, please lay off the enter...
[07:13] <slept> cknwings, you can resize the partition, then create a new one with lvm copy things and then shrink your old  partition again and  resize the lvm and so on till you have copyied your whole /home
[07:13] <caine> danba: ?
[07:13] <lillis> Fikrann,thank you Fikrann, I will see if it works
[07:14] <danba> just press enter less often.
[07:14] <caine> oh
[07:14] <caine> sry i type faster than i think lol
[07:14] <caine> sometiems
[07:14] <caine> *times
[07:14] <ogi_> :D
[07:14] <danba> ANyhow, I do it too. Have you sudo aptitude gtk-gnutella?
[07:14] <d0z> ivoks: Well, wifi-radar did manage to change settings I couldn't manually with iwconfig. Everything looks fine but traffic doesn't flow.
[07:14] <caine> danba: yes i have
[07:14] <caine> now what
[07:14] <ivoks> d0z: does your AP has dhcp server on it?
[07:15] <danba> caine: now, Apps>Internet>gtk-gnutella, or gtk-gnutella in a terminal...
[07:15] <d0z> ivoks: No. I only have a couple of computers so I don't see any need for it.
[07:15] <cknwings> slept OMG, heh id rather just buya new drive.. man is it REALLY not possible just to fix a Ubuntu installation?.. i mean its boasted about this in the Ubuntu WIKI that, ubuntu is much easier to fix and repair in case of problems... but what i can see and find its about in the same area as win3.11 regarding this, not winxp :)
[07:15] <caine> sweet
[07:15] <danba> cknwings: what is broken?
[07:15] <ivoks> d0z: lol i have only one, but i have dhcp :)
[07:16] <caine> so i guess now its completely installed?
[07:16] <ivoks> d0z: then, you configured your IP, DNS, routing, etc... corectly?
[07:16] <danba> cknwings: if you deleted your whole hard drive, it is not very easy to fix it.
[07:16] <d0z> ivoks: I used it before, but I don't want it on wireless.
[07:16] <shido6> ok I figured it out
[07:16] <danba> caine, yes, well, that program is, I use that one, it is very niceC:)
[07:16] <cknwings> danba, i didnt delete anyghing.. get error "/pci@800000000/pci-bridge/pci-ata@1/@0/disk@0;3,boot/vmlinux:input / output error at boot ... im still able to mount and get access ot everything on the disk by booting from liveCD
[07:16] <caine> can i d/l videos music software etc?
[07:16] <danba> good stuff, shido6, I believed in you all the time.
[07:17] <caine> yes i can
[07:17] <caine> good
[07:17] <caine> ty
[07:17] <d0z> ivoks: Yes. I'm an network technician so I got it correct. :) I think. hehe
[07:17] <slept> cknwings, you have to find out what the reason , then you can find out how to fix it ( lvm things are very easy to use - if you can't fix it )
[07:17] <nihao> danba: I have to quit now. mid-night in china already, have a good day, c u!
[07:17] <danba> see, that is the enter I mean, caine.
[07:17] <caine> sry
[07:17] <danba> you too, thank you nihao.
[07:17] <ivoks> d0z: and your /etc/resolv.conf has right DNS namerservers?
[07:17] <danba> caine, dont be sorry, change it, that is all.
[07:17] <caine> hey now how do i completely uninstall apollon through terminal
[07:17] <cknwings> danba, friend got Exactly the same error using the same old school mac g4 :), cant imagine HW issue
[07:17] <d0z> ivoks: Yes, everything is correct.
[07:18] <d0z> ivoks: Otherwise i wouldn't talk to you now. :)
[07:18] <ivoks> d0z: ifconfig | grep inet
[07:18] <ivoks> d0z: ?
[07:18] <lillis> Argggghhhhhh!!
[07:18] <d0z> ivoks: I'm on TP now.
[07:18] <ivoks> d0z: i'm takling about you computer with wifi card
[07:18] <_kevin> I can't get gparted to open on Ubuntu
[07:18] <Fikrann> cknwings, you have problems with lvm?
[07:18] <_kevin> it says scanning
[07:18] <_kevin> and then just disappears
[07:18] <d0z> ivoks: It's the same computer. :)
[07:18] <lillis> Fikrann: It couldn't change anything like that.. I tried pointing it to a new theme file just doing "*Font: anorexia" but it still doesn't work.
[07:18] <caine> danba: how do i completely uninstall apollon?
[07:18] <ivoks> d0z: then how do you know it isn't working?
[07:18] <danba> caine, thank you, I saw it the first time, too.
[07:19] <caine> oh sorry
[07:21] <knewt> how do i get the old-style file open dialog back with gtk2?
[07:21] <ogi_> Well, let's say I try crossover. What are the downsides with it except that it's slow?
[07:22] <Fikrann> lilis, sorry .. I never really understood how fluxbox finds its fonts, since the X font descriptor doesn't always work.
[07:37] (isai/#ubuntu) jfletcher: www.gentoo.org user guides.
[07:37] (jfletcher/#ubuntu) Fator_Dee: i wanna put my usb stuff in there, also for bluetooth
[07:37] (newbie/#ubuntu) frankly I have no idea as to why does GNOME splash the message that I just mentioned.
[07:38] <isai> does any one here know how to view windows shares over the network?
[07:39] <dbernar1_> newbie, well, does it do something bad, do some applcations really not run?
[07:39] <slept> isai , samba
[07:39] <pfp> isai: top menu - places - network servers
[07:39] <isai> slept: any good samba startup guides?
[07:39] <newbie> yes
[07:39] <newbie> I can connect online through the live cd perfect
[07:40] <caine> hey where do the files i d/l on gnutella go
[07:40] <caine> lol
[07:40] <newbie> but the installed version is giving a problem
[07:40] <pfp> afaik you don't need to configure samba if you just want to access other ppls shares
[07:40] <slept> isai, you can install swat which has nice docs with it
[07:40] <caine> nm
[07:40] <slept> isai, do you want to have a server or a client ?
[07:40] <WldRbit> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:40] <WldRbit> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[07:40] <WldRbit> anybody got that ?
[07:41] <newbie> System>Preferences works fine. When I click on Networking to use dial up, there is an icon that shows that it is about to load up. Heck. It doesnt start up
[07:41] <isai> slept: both, but first I want to test the client.
[07:41] <slept> isai , with smbtree you can see what' available
[07:41] <IIIEars_> jcaine - likely in your "home/username/gnutella" folder" - you may need to enable "Show hidden folders"
[07:41] <Shuddertrix> WldRbit: You don't have a accelerated driver in your xorg.conf, or you didn't add the GLX extension to your xorg.conf
[07:42] <newbie> Is that some kind of a bug?
[10:00] (tiny_linux/#ubuntu) somebody else, can help me to setting up mail server
[10:00] (dbernar1_/#ubuntu) um, can you use the dvd player as a data reading device, rather than a dvd moive player?
[10:00] (hhurtta/#ubuntu) how do i change locale from utf-8 to say, iso8859 or so?
[10:00] (DekaPink/#ubuntu) dbernarl_: That's okay.... I don't think I want to install it after all... It wasn't something I -needed-, just something I wanted to play with. ^^
[10:01] <dbernar1_> tiny_linux, please give more informatiion when asking, otherwise noone will be able to help you.
[10:01] <Fikrann> hhurtta, why do you want to move from the universal character set?
[10:01] <poochie> man i am starting to have all sorts of problems
[10:02] <hhurtta> Fikrann: utf8 has some issues with ie. scands
[10:02] <hhurtta> that is  or
[10:02] <hhurtta> for example
[10:02] <yoor> fuck it, it doesn't work
[10:02] <dbernar1_> dekapink, if you can make your /etc/apt/sources.list file look like www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list you can easily use synaptic's search function, for name and description, to search for programs, and install and play with them.
[10:02] <shido6> how do I make a bootdisk for my system in an .iso form
[10:03] <Fikrann> hhurtta, what is scands?
[10:03] <dbernar1_> yoor, please dont swear, what doesn t work? have you tried using a data DVD with that drive?
[10:03] <dbernar1_> scandinavian.
[10:03] <caine> gnutella keeps crashing!!
[10:03] <yonil> Is there a way using lsap to check what is using my sound card ?
[10:03] <hhurtta> letters like  and
[10:03] <caine> it was working now its crashing
[10:03] <shido6> hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[10:03] <shido6> hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd
[10:04] <yoor> no
[10:04] <DekaPink> dbernarl_: Okey doke.... Currently, my sources.list is like how they tell you to put it at ubuntuguide.org
[10:04] <yoor> done, ever done..!
[10:04] <shido6> do that on your dma interfaces
[10:04] <shido6> no more crashing
[10:04] <dbernar1_> DekaPink, dont read that, read www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ first
[10:04] <yonil> Bhaaa what is the command ? something like "lsap"
[10:04] <dbernar1_> there is a search function, DekaPink .
[10:04] <yonil> to check what devices applications are using
[10:05] <yoor> i've got all the required libraries and I'm sure I have ever read a dvd
[10:05] <poochie> my ati drivers aren't working, i followed this wiki guide http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:05] <caine> ok now its working for some odd reason
[10:05] <poochie> hoary version
[10:05] <dbernar1_> yonil, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=oss+alsa
[10:06] <dbernar1_> caine, you keeop doing this:)
[10:06] <rts23> hi folks if someone (e.g. my dad) is a complete beginner to linux and isn't very computer-savvy, where should he start?
[10:07] <caine> well i had to restart my comp because it froze and was saying that it couldnt grab my mouse
[10:07] <caine> oh and that a milicious person might be trying to get into my comp...
[10:07] <tiny_linux> installing mail server howto
[10:07] <yoor> okay, it works, I removed completely xine-ui and reinstalled it
[10:07] <tiny_linux> i really need it
[10:07] <angela_> anyone know how to aptget java and macomedia flash
[10:07] <yoor> thanks for your cooperation
[10:07] <yoor> ciao ciao
[10:07] <Jormundgand> Apparently Ubuntu's version of Xfce doesn't like my monitor going into standby and is outdated and requires a bugfix.
[10:07] <avinoam> woohoo
[10:07] <avinoam> i got it to work
[10:09] <tibal> Other question about Nautilus and gnome-volume-manager : automount now work in /media but still nothing appears in "My computer"
[10:09] <dbernar1_> Jormundgand, how are your fx and tbrd logos:-p?
[10:10] <Jormundgand> dbernarl: I used the "replace the icons" script, but About logos are still nasty.
[10:11] <tibal> is it a nautilus configuration ? or is it depending on Gnome I haven't ?
[10:11] <avinoam> anyone here use skype?
[10:11] <uga_> hola
[10:11] <tibal> avinoam, i have it
[10:11] <iceman> crap how to install java with aptget
[10:11] <avinoam> tibal i dkpged it and it won't start
[10:11] <uga_> someone speak spanish?
[10:11] <avinoam> it makes a beep and then nothing
[10:12] <linuxalien> I read the faq on root, but I have a program that even if you start it from a console in root, it asks for the root password later on in the config and it never seems to take...says it can't complete the command or something.   And if it comes with 1.1, is there a backport or anything for 2.0?
[10:13] <tibal> It works great
[10:13] <Maidenb> i have put aMule in sesion
[10:13] <avinoam> tibal what is the http://?
[10:14] <Maidenb> run at startup
[10:14] <danko123456> haha, nice to see you are back, radeon.
[10:14] <raDeon> :)
[10:14] <caine> does the video on this link work for any of you? http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13559912&blogID=27789783&Mytoken=20050531131113
[10:14] <tibal> avinoam, http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[10:14] <Maidenb> please helpme
[10:14] <danko123456> lol....so blatant....
[10:14] <angela_> anyone know the command for aptitude install "for java"
[10:15] <ilbahr> anyone know about a good program where i can put comments in pdf file like the proffessional ADOBE ver
[10:15] <danko123456> Maidenb: first of all, I guess...what language do you speak?
[10:15] <avinoam> the ubuntu site is running so slowly!!!
[10:16] <Maidenb> nothing
[10:16] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[10:16] <St0n3-C0l> anyone with i810 video card ?
[10:16] <raDeon> LOL\
[10:16] <dbernar1_> Maidenb, please tell us, we think your first language is not english, is this true?
[10:16] <raDeon> what language do you speak? "nothing" LMAO
[10:16] <Maidenb> jaja
[10:16] <Maidenb> im argent
[10:16] <dbernar1_> ok, great...
[10:17] <avinoam> or maybe it's my internet connection
[10:17] <danko123456> Maidenb: Para los usuarios Ubuntu de habla hispa?a que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #ubuntu-es  may help /join #ubuntu-es
[10:17] <raDeon> Maidenb, #ubuntu-es
[10:17] <caine> ok i really need help ppl...http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13559912&blogID=27789783&Mytoken=20050531131113....does it work or not?
[10:17] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: I am using i810 on board card
[10:17] <danko123456> if not, come back, and tell us if you want to add amule to your startup programs in gnome.
[10:18] <avinoam> damn it
[10:18] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: please check glxinfo and temme if ur direct rendering is enabled or not
[10:18] <danko123456> caine, I think you screwed up the link, I dont think the link even works.
[10:19] <toto> Hi people! Anyone knows how to change global charset default in ubuntu?
[10:19] <dbernar1_> crap, my head is gonna explode.
[10:19] <angela_> i have apt-get ... cant get java ..
[10:20] <Maidenb> dont have anyone
[10:20] <Maidenb> please helpme here
[10:20] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: direct rendering: Yes
[10:20] <St0n3-C0l> angela_: add lines of backports in /etc/apt/sources.list and then 'apt-get install sun-j2re'
[10:21] <Maidenb> please
[10:21] <dbernar1_> St0n3-C0l, well, he could do that...or, he could read www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java and try to learn how to do it... either way, he is likely to be back with more questions.
[10:21] <danko123456> okok, Ill help you.
[10:22] <St0n3-C0l> alright
[10:22] <Maidenb> system---preferences---sesions
[10:22] <angela_> no ... just on a small screen and can see ... 800x600 resolution sucks
[10:22] <danko123456> Maidenb, estas trying to addicionar amule to your startup programs?
[10:22] <Maidenb> yessssssssssssssss
[10:22] <Maidenb> but the splash screen stop
[10:22] <danko123456> ok, well, one s works...
[10:23] <gbic> Err http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages
[10:23] <gbic>   401 Authorization Required
[10:23] <geordi> hi guys, I'm back, I'm trying to get phpMyAdmin to see mysql
[10:23] <gbic> hmm, I have added the keys....anyone else having issues?
[10:23] <Vince> #ubuntu-meeting
[10:23] <St0n3-C0l> gbic: Use other mirros
[10:23] <danko123456> maidenb, please diga me quien es el command to start amule des un terminal.
[10:23] <geordi> I installed mysql, and I know it's running
[10:23] <gbic> I have others, just wondering why these ones are down
[10:23] <Maidenb> aMule
[10:23] <Maidenb> is the command
[10:24] <netgrabber> Hi, I try to print a mail from thunderbird, but I habe no blanks on the paper. I'm using the HP 710C printer. Printing from gedit is ok
[10:24] <St0n3-C0l> gbic: LOL I also don't know :P
[10:24] <thesaltydog> any chance to have an help on a bastard running fan on Pentium 4 desktop??
[10:24] <geordi> but, I get the "cannot load mysql extension please check php configuration", and it suggests I install a package called php-mysql, but I could find no such thing
[10:24] <St0n3-C0l> last time I accessed was giving 403 Forbidden
[10:24] <gbic> odd
[10:24] <gbic> maybe they are fixing it
[10:24] <Hikaru79> Does Hoary come with OpenOffice 1.1 or 2.0? And if it comes with 1.1, is there a backport or anything for 2.0?
[10:24] <gbic> who knows
[10:25] <St0n3-C0l> hikaru79: OpenOffice 1.13 maybe
[10:25] <Hikaru79> St0n3-C0l, darn =/ And no backport of 2.0 exists?
[10:25] <thesaltydog> why my fan i quite in windows and loud in Hoary?
[10:25] <St0n3-C0l> Hikaru79: There's openoffice2 available in the repos
[10:25] <Hikaru79> Oh, excellent! So it *is* there?
[10:26] <St0n3-C0l> Yeah, I think
[10:26] <danko123456> Maidenb: por favor open un terminal, and type in aMule and hit enter.
[10:26] <St0n3-C0l> just check Synaptic
[10:26] <Maidenb> ok
[10:26] <Maidenb> but
[10:26] <Maidenb> cant how to open terminal
[10:26] <medkit> i don't understand the gnome printer panel. I just want to add ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>/lp as the CUPS device url. What do i see on <IP_ADDRESS>: the device url changed to http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/lp
[10:26] <Maidenb> and how cant open chat in terminal
[10:26] <Shido> how do I make an iso bootdisk for my ubuntu?
[10:26] <medkit> crap
[10:27] <danko123456> Applications>System Tools>Terminal Maidenb.
[10:27] <avinoam> How the heck do I run synaptic?
[10:27] <angela_> freaqkin package manager
[10:27] <danko123456> medkit: means taht is the port they are talking on.
[10:27] <avinoam> Where is it?
[10:27] <caine> http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13559912&blogID=27789783&Mytoken=2005053113111
[10:27] <danko123456> angela_: it is in gnome.
[10:27] <danko123456> kynaptic;)
[10:27] <danko123456> oh, well, whoever.
[10:27] <ilbahr> i do a lot of review work most of the material is in pdf format anyone know about a program that is similar to ADOBE in adding comments to pdf files
[10:27] <Maidenb> but the ubuntu stop in spashscreen
[10:28] <danko123456> avinoam: you hit System>Admin>Synaptic
[10:28] <medkit> danko123456, but :631 is not right. I have not entered it. It is wrong. the printer listens to <IP_ADDRESS>/lp
[10:28] <avinoam> thanks
[10:28] <Hikaru79> St0n3-C0l, I can't check synaptic yet, I'm *considering* a move to Ubuntu from Gentoo
[10:28] <danko123456> Maidenb: so you cant get inside your gnome-session at all?
[10:28] <Maidenb> no
[10:28] <St0n3-C0l> Ahh..
[10:28] <St0n3-C0l> Nice Idea
[10:29] <angela_> ho to turn on root access .. to rewrite sources.list ?
[10:29] <medkit> danko123456, and not at <IP_ADDRESS>:631/lp
[10:29] <Maidenb> y can put the username and pass
[10:29] <Maidenb> but in spashscreen stop
[10:29] <ralf> hi all
[10:29] <danko123456> I dont know then, medkit, i WOULD THINK IT LISTENS TO A PORT, NOT AN ip, sorry about the caps...
[10:29] <tanek> how do i get my volume manager-icon back on my gnome panel, it just disappeared and I cant get it by right click -> add item
[10:29] <ralf> the ubuntu dvd is also live?
[10:29] <rts23> hello, me again.  enyone know how to read Ebooks or where to get a reader for them?
[10:30] <danko123456> Maidenb: please try hitting the session bvutton before you sign in, and choose failsafe gnome. Once you are signed in, remove what you added to the session
[10:30] <Maidenb> ok
[10:30] <medkit> danko123456, the device listens to a queue. The queue is /lp.
[10:30] <Maidenb> thanks
[10:32] <danko123456> rts23: sudo aptitude install xchm
[10:32] <avinoam> hmm having trouble installing skype
[10:32] <avinoam> who was the skype user here?
[10:32] <XandriX> omg i want my cds that i order like the 12th of april
[10:32] <danko123456> rts23: a better question is how do I popen .chm files...:)
[10:32] <medkit> danko123456, you brought me an idea, i'll scan the router with nessus and look what ports are open. I cannot change the queue's name but maybe i can redirect a port...
[10:33] <danko123456> I m,ean, better, one that not only the person that knows which forrmat the eBook is in can answer;)
[10:33] <avinoam> danko are you on skype?
[10:33] <danko123456> medkit: unfortunately, 67% of teh time, that is all I am good for, giving ideas.
[10:33] <danko123456> avinoam: somewhat, never used it so far, waiting to find out.
[10:33] <avinoam> danko have you installed it?
[10:34] <danko123456> yeah, it is in my panel menu...
[10:34] <medkit> danko123456, sufficent most of the time.
[10:34] <gub> hi
[10:34] <avinoam> where did you get the lib?
[10:35] <anto9us> hello :)
[10:35] <avinoam> danko?
[10:35] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: sorry got diverted. what are you asking?
[10:35] <danko123456> avinoam: no libs, I got the binary file from their site....please be more patient, I was doing something else.
[10:35] <avinoam> it's ok i thought maybe you didn't see the msg
[10:35] <danko123456> !hi anto9us
[10:35] <avinoam> anyone else here use skype?
[10:35] <ubotu> danko123456: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:35] <gub> I repacked the libx11-dev & libx11-6 packages with the keys patch (ctrl key bug...)  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=2552.
[10:36] <avinoam> danko i did too but try running ot now does it open?
[10:36] <gub> I have called it libx11-6_6.8.2-20-1 ?
[10:36] <danko123456> yes, it does work, avinoam.
[10:36] <gub> is it a good version number ?
[10:36] <avinoam> that's odd mine won't open
[10:37] <janjan> hi guys, cdrecord -scanbus says can't read SCSI driver, I'm sure cd writer reads cds, any idea? Thank you
[10:37] <danko123456> no, yours iis odd, nmine is not..:-p
[10:37] <avinoam> hehe
[10:37] <avinoam> it just beeps and then nothing
[10:37] <danko123456> well, you did say it that way..
[10:37] <danko123456> :)
[10:37] <gub> any maintainer can help me
[10:37] <danko123456> I agree, they all can.
[10:37] <synd> how do you change the trashcan icons?
[10:38] <tanek> whats up with this: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" ?
[10:38] <anto9us> gub: have you tried #ubuntu-dev?
[10:38] <dbernar1_> anto9us, have you>?
[10:39] <gub> ubuntu-dev ?
[10:39] <anto9us> dbernar1_: sorry, what do you mean?
[10:39] <St0n3-C0l> anyguy using i810 video card ??
[10:39] <dbernar1_> did you try that channel?
[10:39] <avinoam> wait how do i update the list in synaptic?
[10:39] <dbernar1_> avinoam, arent you using that card?
[10:39] <dbernar1_> you hit reaload
[10:39] <anto9us> dbernar1_: yes, with regard to oem stuff, why?
[10:40] <avinoam> i don't think it's getting that from the web
[10:40] <Fanskapet> ahh got my Radeon Mobility 9700 to work with ATI's official driver in xorg.. after much trouble :D
[10:40] <avinoam> i want more files to be available
[10:40] <avinoam> or can't i do that?
[10:40] <gub> anto9us: there is no ubuntu-dev channel
[10:40] <avinoam> i need libqt3c102-mt
[10:40] <dbernar1_> cause, try now, anto9us .  #ubuntu-dev
[10:41] <dbernar1_> but dont comment on your attempt here, please.
[10:41] <japoeder> This may be a really stupid question, but I am a complete noob when it comes to Linux.  Is there anything I need to do in order to burn dvds and/or iso images?
[10:41] <anto9us> where'd it go?
[10:41] <dbernar1_> anto9us, please dont send random ppl to channels...
[10:41] <jdodson> japoeder: if you have a cd/dvd burner and are using gnome 2.8 or higher, just right click the iso and select burn.
[10:41] <delltony> hi ihave a question not really sure how to go about resolving this issue so thats why i am here. for some reason my laptop seems to be running very slow. as if the harddrive is majorly fragmented but i thought linux didn't fragment. in any case i run top and don't see anything to my knowledge out of the ordinary. but again mys ystem seems to be lagging as if its having a hard time doing io request. any suggestions on this would be a
[10:41] <delltony> ppreciated big time.
[10:41] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: what are you asking for ?
[10:41] <geordi> what package do I need to access mysql from a php script?
[10:41] <slawek> I've just found a directory /.Trash-root. du reports it eats up 6GB of space... can I delete it?
[10:42] <anto9us> aah.. ubuntu-devel
[10:42] <jdodson> slawek: sure.  its basically the trash bin for the root account.
[10:42] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: ok. sorry was diverted to some other stuff
[10:42] <japoeder> how can I find out if I have gnome 2.8?
[10:42] <synd> .
[10:42] <synd> how do you change the trashcan icons?
[10:42] <dbernar1_> an
[10:42] <japoeder> I'm using ubuntu 5.04
[10:42] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: how?
[10:42] <jdodson> japoeder: warty is gnome 2.8, hoary is gnome 2.10
[10:42] <jdodson> japoeder: you have gnome 2.10 you are fine:)
[10:42] <anto9us> dbernar1_: I thought they may have an answer to gubs question
[10:43] <avinoam> so the question is why doesn't skype work?
[10:43] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: PVT :)
[10:43] <dbernar1_> anto9us, did you think about whether they want his question:-p no, dont worry, anyhow, I was told not to send ppl there.
[10:43] <japoeder> thanks
[10:43] <jdodson> japoeder: no problem.
[10:43] <anto9us> dbernar1_: seems on topic to me
[10:44] <dbernar1_> yeah, dont worry about it, Im not in the mood for explanations.
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: check your private window :)
[10:44] <Moonshine> Hi,
[10:44] <slawek> jdodson: but the curious thing is, how come it's so big.. it contans folders like bin, bin (copy), usr, usr (copy)... it seems that entire tree got copied to this trash two times!
[10:44] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: check it out. just sent
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> ahan
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> thanks
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> wait
[10:44] <ralf> the ubuntu dvd is also live? or it is used only to install?
[10:45] <slawek> jdodson: but thanks for the answer i'll delete it right away
[10:45] <raDeon> WHO CALLED ME
[10:45] <raDeon> WHAT U WANT
[10:45] <Moonshine> dose anybody know how to create MSDOS batch files under linux? You know an editor?
[10:46] <pestilence> Moonshine: vi?