[23:34] <Milkkk> DasEi: what are u talking about ?
[23:34] <DasEi> Milkkk: is your /home an own partition ?
[23:35] <Hasanibrahim> hello, is there anybody who can explain installing windows On ubuntu step by step?
[23:35] <Milkkk> DasEi: dont think so.. alltough im not sure
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> Hasanibrahim:  you mean installing windows inside virtualbox?
[23:35] <DasEi> Milkkk: can you boot a live cd and come back in here as I assume you speak from another system now ?
[23:36] <Hasanibrahim> No Dr_Willis, i have installed ubuntu on windows. But now i can't boot windows. So i need to reinstall windows.
[23:36] <Milkkk> DasEi: i dont have a live cd
[23:36] <Milkkk> DasEi: used the alternative installer
[23:36] <oliver_> How can I backup my data online in Ubuntu?
[23:36] <DasEi> Milkkk: which os is on your current machine ?
[23:36] <violinappren> Hasanibrahim: just reinstall windows and then fix grub
[23:36] <violinappren> !grub | Hasanibrahim
[23:36] <^peanut^> oliver_:  ubuntuone, or dropbox works great!
[23:36] <Milkkk> DasEi: ubuntu 10.04
[23:37] <ubuntu_> help me
[23:37] <DasEi> Milkkk: have an usb stick and the broken one the ability to start from usb ?
[23:37] <violinappren> Hasanibrahim: perhaps your windows partition is still there and only grub needs to be fixed
[23:37] <ubuntu_> http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php/topic,399667.0.html
[23:37] <monkey_dust> !ask| ubuntu_
[23:37] <DasEi> !details |  ubuntu_
[23:37] <Milkkk> DasEi: probably
[23:37] <oliver_> ^peanut^: Thx I will take i loook!
[23:38] <^peanut^> oliver_: your welcome
[23:38] <DasEi> Milkkk: use unetbootin, make a live-usb stick, boot it, so we can look what's up there
[23:38] <Hasanibrahim> violinappren: in fact, i cann see windows on boot, but when i enter to windows, it's not opening.
[23:38] <DasEi> !unetbootin
[23:38] <Milkkk> DasEi: ok
[23:38] <Hasanibrahim> Tere is someting wrong with booting windows. so i will try to reinstall windows.
[23:39] <DasEi> Milkkk: quite simple, , but have to d/l a desktop iso, first
[23:39] <ronniewoowoo85> I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment, but I'm running a Core i7 machine w/ an ATI 4870x2. For some reason my PC runs over 100 watts higher in Ubuntu (and even Fedora for that matter) than Windows 7. Is this likely to be a video card issue?
[23:39] <Milkkk> DasEi: but does it matter because i have the alternative version installed not the desktop version
[23:39] <violinappren> Hasanibrahim: any error messages ?
[23:39] <ITSa341> can someone help me figure out why this driver won't build ( make clean build )
[23:39] <Milkkk> DasEi: i know
[23:39] <BluesKaj> Hasanibrahim, which windows ?
[23:39] <Milkkk> DasEi: :D
[23:39] <gianniunix> help http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php/topic,399667.0.html
[23:39] <DasEi> Milkkk: get the desktop, needed for that
[23:39] <monkey_dust> Hasanibrahim, when you reinstall Windows, your GRUB needs to be repaired, too, so be cautious
[23:39] <^peanut^> ITSa341: expand on that please
[23:39] <violinappren> !details | ITSa341
[23:39] <Milkkk> DasEi: huh ?
[23:39] <DasEi> Milkkk: and care for 32 or 64
[23:40] <DasEi> Milkkk: desktop-cd is live-able, alternate isn't
[23:40] <Hasanibrahim> BluesKaj:  i'm trying to open windows xp sp3. violinappren: There is no error,  i have waited but it didn't open (a black screen was in front of me :) )
[23:40] <ITSa341> ubuntu 10.4 64 bit...trying to compile a driver for the marvell topdog a,b,g,n  I get an error about cflags when I run ,ake clean build
[23:40] <Milkkk> DasEi: i know but will ther be any problems because i already have the alternative installed
[23:40] <Hasanibrahim> monkey_dust: so i think i will recome here :)
[23:41] <violinappren> Hasanibrahim: what ubuntu version are you using ?
[23:41] <DasEi> Milkkk: no, it just goes about an bootable usb stick, install is fine with alternate, no matter
[23:41] <ITSa341> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-24-generic'
[23:41] <ITSa341> scripts/Makefile.build:49: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/home/rick/Downloads/src_sd8686/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS.  Stop.
[23:41] <ITSa341> make[1]: *** [_module_/home/rick/Downloads/src_sd8686] Error 2
[23:41] <ITSa341> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-24-generic'
[23:41] <ITSa341> make: *** [default] Error 2
[23:41] <FloodBot4> ITSa341: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <Milkkk> DasEi: ok thanks
[23:41] <^peanut^> !paste | ITSa341
[23:41] <Jordan_U> Hasanibrahim: If you've installed Ubuntu with wubi ("inside windows)" then you should make sure that when you re-install windows you don't delete the current ntfs partition, because that's where Ubuntu is currently installed.
[23:41] <BluesKaj> Hasanibrahim, a blank screen with no prompt   ?
[23:41] <Hasanibrahim> ubuntu 10.04 violinappren
[23:42] <ITSa341> brb
[23:42] <infid> on my netbook ubuntu randomly just started auto selecting things i type in firefox, as if i'm selecting what i type with my mouse. any idea why? i rebooted which fixed it once but it's doing it again
[23:42] <ITSa341> http://paste.ubuntu.com/467724/
[23:43] <Hasanibrahim> Jordan_U: no, i didn't install with wubi BluesKaj: yes, after wnter windows on boot menu, a black screen comes and there isn't anything more
[23:43] <seidos> infid, I have no idea.  Have you tried booting with a different kernel?
[23:44] <Jordan_U> Hasanibrahim: Can you run boot info script as explained here and pastebin the RESULTS.txt : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 ?
[23:44] <BluesKaj> Hasanibrahim, did you defrag windows before installing ubuntu ?
[23:44] <^peanut^> ITSa341: what happens if you just run make?
[23:44] <violinappren> Hasanibrahim: you could use windows cd in recovery mode, then issue the command  "fdisk /mbr" .. and then restore grub
[23:44] <skyscraper> hey can anyone help me? i've developed an app, which broadcasts udp to <IP_ADDRESS> - my pc is in 192.168.0.X subnet... - in windows i can manage this with "route add <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> metric 1" - in linux i tried "route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlan0" but it doesnt work... the client in network with ip <IP_ADDRESS> doesnt recv anything from my linux pc, windows works.... any help?
[23:44] <Jordan_U> BluesKaj: That's not actually needed.
[23:44] <WillWork4Foo> hi all... this is a painfully n00b kinda question to ask, but - if I decide I want to install and try out xinetd and then change my mind, after I do sudo apt-get remove xinetd how do I get back to the good old-fashioned inetd?
[23:44] <Milkkk> DasEi: do know of any unetbootin alternatives for osx ?
[23:44] <WillWork4Foo> apt-get install inetd doesn't seem to work.
[23:45] <DasEi> Milkkk: sorry, no idea,
[23:45] <Hasanibrahim> i'm going to do it Jordan_U
[23:45] <^peanut^> WillWork4Foo: why not use xinitd?
[23:45] <Hasanibrahim> BluesKaj: no :(
[23:45] <Milkkk> DasEi: ok :))
[23:45] <ITSa341> peanut  http://paste.ubuntu.com/467726/
[23:45] <WillWork4Foo> ^peanut^, things like update-inetd don't work
[23:45] <violinappren> skyscraper: you could use wireshark to sniff the actual packets being sent and received
[23:46] <violinappren> !info wireshark | skyscraper
[23:46] <^peanut^> ITSa341:  did you happen to edit anything in src_sd8686/Makefile
[23:46] <multi_io> is the former usb.h now named libusb.h?
[23:46] <ITSa341> Nope
[23:46] <multi_io> (libusb devel header file)
[23:46] <ITSa341> I know my limits..........do not touch anything unless told to
[23:46] <^peanut^> ITSa341: it's possible they have a bug. Have you tried contacting the suppliers support channels?
[23:46] <DasEi> Milkkk: never tried : http://pastebin.com/xSaqMCRH
[23:47] <^peanut^> ITSa341:  =) yea that's a good rule of thumb
[23:47] <skyscraper> violinappren: i do know wireshark and have it installed, too... - but... i think its a routing problem... when i change my linux ip "ifconfig wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>" then the <IP_ADDRESS>-client receives my broadcast send to <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:47] <Milkkk> DasEi: that should do it
[23:47] <corpsegrindr> I am SSHing into my homeserver and its coming up as usrname@(none) why would that be?
[23:47] <ITSa341> peanut the supplier will not even talk to anyone but huge OEM providers who will sign non disclosure agreements and order millions of $ worth of hardware
[23:47] <BluesKaj> Jordan_U,, well it's not written in stone but I've seenm
[23:47] <BluesKaj> it recommended
[23:47] <DasEi> Milkkk: give feedback, caspar might harm you there
[23:48] <Hasanibrahim> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/467727/
[23:48] <^peanut^> ITSa341:  yeah that figures. Nothing in the community for the driver you need?
[23:48] <Hasanibrahim> BluesKaj: you can take a look if you want, too http://paste.ubuntu.com/467727/
[23:48] <ITSa341> One reason I will never again own anything with marvell brand hardware in it
[23:48] <^peanut^> ITSa341: dido
[23:48] <ITSa341> not unless I want to downgrade to 32bit
[23:48] <Liam-away> Slasher`
[23:48] <DasEi> corpsegrindr: did you set ssh to allow password-auth ?
[23:48] <^peanut^> ITSa341: ah, so your running 64 eh?
[23:48] <ITSa341> yup
[23:49] <ITSa341> this thing is fast with 64bit 10.4
[23:49] <MIH1406> why ubuntu likes python? it is very very slow
[23:49] <Jordan_U> BluesKaj: There is a lot of folklore on spread through the vast interwebs. If you read the man page for ntfsresize it explicitly states that the claims about needing to defrag first are untrue.
[23:49] <MIH1406> I think if all developers stick to a better programming language is better for linux
[23:49] <^peanut^> ITSa341: hmm, sorry bro, not sure what to say. Mess around with the Makefile if you know your way around. If not... ask again in channel here, maybe someone else knows. Or, kick back to 32bit =(
[23:49] <MIH1406> for example c or c++
[23:49] <corpsegrindr> DasEi: yep, and i can run and install most programs but when i try to run commands like modprobe it tells me unable to reslove host (none)
[23:50] <DasEi> MIH1406: it's sayn to ease complex tasks, but other languages are supported too, c++ is also widely used
[23:50] <ITSa341> just hate to have this dang usb wifi plugged in to connect
[23:50] <ITSa341> ok, thanks peanut
[23:50] <MIH1406> yes, menu editor is very slow
[23:50] <MIH1406> I think a c++ clone is better
[23:50] <capslord> hello there. is anyone here using Ubuntu on a LG x110?
[23:50] <DasEi> MIH1406: you can use any editor of your choice
[23:50] <capslord> Ubuntu remix even
[23:51] <MIH1406> I mean GNOME menu editor
[23:51] <Red0> im using remix with a netbook
[23:51] <MIH1406> Also deluge has very very slow GUI
[23:51] <Planetary> Does anyone know why a gateway pentium D computer will not run a live cd? I put a new cmos battery in it, changed cd drives, safe graphics mode, alterenate iso, usb boot, and both 64 and 32 bit installs. It either says: boot error. or reboots when it starts loading the kernal? I have never seen anything like it...
[23:52] <DasEi> phyton against c++ has to be translated, this is why it's slower, MIH1406
[23:52] <budbud> anyone know where i can get a cheap 3g usb/mini pcie card from?
[23:52] <capslord> I am gonna install remix on my GF's netbook. just wanted to ask if it has any problems on x110
[23:52] <aeon-ltd> Planetary: fresh disks?
[23:52] <^peanut^> Planetary: hmm, memory? md5sum the iso image?
[23:52] <Planetary> new and old
[23:52] <MIH1406> if you click the down button you have to wait seconds to see the effect while this is not the behavior prefered by any users
[23:52] <^peanut^> Planetary: btw, pentium D doesn't support 64bit if I remember correctly.
[23:52] <Planetary> they ahve worked on other computers and I have checked them
[23:52] <MIH1406> DasEi: I cannot understand what you mean?
[23:53] <MIH1406> what do you mean by "translated"?
[23:53] <DasEi> MIH1406: http://i8t.de/index.php
[23:54] <MIH1406> what is this link, DasEi?
[23:55] <Planetary> memory? it has a gig, but  I dont remember the brands.
[23:55] <Jordan_U> MIH1406: Users also expect features, and with open source are often implementing those features on their own time. Programming in python generally provides more stable results faster given the same amount of developer time. And many developers wouldn't even be volunteering that time if they had to write in C++.
[23:55] <wx9j> what is the oldest version of Ubuntu that supports EXT4 file system ?
[23:55] <Jordan_U> !pm | Hasanibrahim
[23:55] <^peanut^> Planetary: So you do you even see the bootloader splash screen when booting from the live cd?
[23:56] <violinappren> wx9j: new kernels fix very critical bugs
[23:56] <DasEi> MIH1406: tinyurl borked, http://blog.dhananjaynene.com/2008/07/performance-comparison-c-java-python-ruby-jython-jruby-groovy/
[23:56] <wx9j> violinappren, yes but it seems the 10.4 is really messing with my computer
[23:56] <MIH1406> But this is against Ubuntu if we are doing some (Ubuntu vs Windows)
[23:57] <Hasanibrahim> i'm sorry asking in private, cause i thought it won't help anyone except  me. did you check Jordan_U ?
[23:57] <violinappren> wx9j: state your problems here and we may be able to help you
[23:57] <Jordan_U> Hasanibrahim: Has windows ever booted since you installed Ubuntu?
[23:57] <BluesKaj> Jordan_U, I have personal experience with an undefragged windows partition not responding after installing linux , so i'll stick with my experience vs some theory
[23:57] <Hasanibrahim> Jordan_U: no, it never
[23:57] <wx9j> the box locks up totally and will not respond till after it is rebooted.
[23:58] <Jordan_U> BluesKaj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc
[23:58] <Milkkk> DasEi: didnt give me any errors im trying the usb now
[23:58] <violinappren> Hasanibrahim: did you try fixing windows mbr? i gave you the command
[23:59] <violinappren> !away > SuP|Lobby
[23:59] <Planetary> ^peanut^: yes, it comes up and askes if it want to try  or intall ubuntu etc. If I try or intstall it spins teh cd up and then reboots. I have played with the bios too. I have tried this with new and old versions of (x/u/k)buntu
[23:59] <^peanut^> Planetary: Have you run memtest86 from the cd?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Hasanibrahim: The windows boot sector (partition boot recort, not mbr) is hard coded to look for windows on the first partition, normally you install Ubuntu in later partitions on the disk rather than earlier ones. I think that fixboot from a windows install CD will fix this but I'm not sure.
[23:59] <BluesKaj> Hasanibrahim, it looks like you have 2 windows partitions .. I haven't seen a rescue partition for windows XP, so I'm wondering why 2 windows installs ?
[23:59] <^peanut^> Planetary: I'd run that. just to rule out your memory