[11:57] <selinium> bob2: Oh do it like that, :) I didn't know if it held the previous kernel in there still, if you see what i mean.
[11:57] <Bioblinse> thanx *g*
[11:57] <Alyone> http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55967-help me please!
[11:57] <Alyone> http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55967-help me please!
[11:57] <bob2> selinium: the kernels will be fine, yeah; but two installed systems requieres* two partitions
[11:57] <bob2> * = not really true, but chroot's will be fiddly
[11:57] <kaelisra> hms.
[11:58] <kaelisra> aftertaf, i could do with some sound help, again >.
[11:58] <kaelisra> *>.<
[11:59] <aftertaf> kaelisra:  hehe, how did i become an expert?? :D
[11:59] <guim> hi all, I am using hoary and received ISO word documents (*.doc) how do I have to open them correctly? as Hoary/openoffice seems to open them as if they were UTF8 docs? i don't know wher I am supposed to change something
[11:59] <kaelisra> since i need some of the same stuff, again
[11:59] <kaelisra> this time, i've got breezy.
[12:00] <kaelisra> and the driver works ;)
[12:00] <kaelisra> i've.. just got not sound, still.
[12:00] <aftertaf> ceck for the soundcore module, and ckeck that the mixer isnt muted...
[12:01] <kaelisra> ok. how do i do that, again? >.<
[12:01] <kaelisra> erm. wait. not muted, done that one already.
[12:02] <LadyLinux> bob2: I can't wait to get some sleep.
[12:02] <guim> any help would be appreciated
[12:03] <bob2> LadyLinux: heh; you can't let the download run over night?
[12:03] <LadyLinux> bob2: How good is Satalite internet?
[12:03] <bob2> LadyLinux: higher bandwidth than dialup, but it can be pretty expensive
[12:04] <kaelisra> ^^;;
[12:04] <claviceps> greetings
[12:04] <ndisy> just a quick question, how can i find out what kernel version i have?
[12:04] <claviceps> does ubuntu ship with X.org? and is "startx" still the command to start it?
[12:04] <godzero> satellite is for last resrt, really. even dsl has better price/performance if you can get it (I assume you live in a out-of-the-way place)
[12:04] <bob2> ndisy: uname -r
[12:04] <LadyLinux> bob2:  $200 start and $99 a month or $500 1 time purchase and $49 a month.
[12:04] <bob2> claviceps: yes, yes
[12:05] <bob2> claviceps: tho gdm starts it by default on boot
[12:05] <bob2> LadyLinux: eep
[12:05] <Mutant> I configured the smb.conf file but it's still not working
[12:05] <Mutant> I configured the smb.conf file but it's still not working
[12:05] <ndisy> thanc
[12:05] <kaelisra> aftertaf, umm... I've kinda forgotten how to do that...
[12:05] <Mutant> can somoene help me on how to setup a PDF Printer ( to print to a pdf file...)?
[12:05] <nalioth_zZz> LadyLinux: look at www.wildblue.com
[12:05] <claviceps> bob2: well, i'm troubleshooting my cousin over the net and when he boots, X doesn' tstart automaticly and startx is not found
[12:05] <LadyLinux> bob2:  It's the only high speed I can get.
[12:05] <nige> anyone know how to get x+ati drivers+dual monitors working?
[12:06] <bob2> claviceps: whoever installed it screwed up
[12:06] <bob2> claviceps: or a user got root and removed a bunch of stuff
[12:06] <bob2> nige: xinerama, the wiki has documentation for it, as does google
[12:06] <bob2> LadyLinux: ah...pretty pricey :|
[12:06] <ebf>  anybody: i want to view my network pcs here in linux, but how?
[12:06] <nige> wellI tried the xinerama it didnt work for me :(
[12:07] <nige> I just get a cloned image on my screen
[12:07] <nige> which does me no good
[12:07] <bob2> nige: "didn't work" isn't enough information for someoen to help you debug it
[12:07] <bob2> that's not xinerama
[12:07] <bob2> that's cloning
[12:07] <nige> well
[12:07] <nige> i keep ending up with the gdm being disabled..
[12:07] <Kilter> I want to put a wiki up on my ubuntu box, is there a good package with reasonable information to use?
[12:08] <bob2> Kilter: moin is pretty good and has a reasonable security record
[12:08] <admin_> how can i install wine in ubuntu
[12:08] <bob2> and doesn't take too much screweing around
[12:08] <Kilter> moin?  ok, I'll look it up.  searching for wiki howto ubuntu wasn't working in google;)
[12:08] <bob2> !+repositories
[12:08] <ubotu> I guess repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:08] <bob2> admin_: ^^
[12:08] <bob2> admin_: read that, then use synaptic
[12:11] <F> I installed bittorrent-gui, but it doesn't have a menu entry and it doesn't start from the terminal either, I'm using the Breezy preview
[12:11] <bob2> btdownload<tab> in a shell
[12:11] <F> am I the only one having this problem
[12:11] <adaran> morning everyone
[12:11] <adaran> where do i take my question about ubuntu release cycles and such?
[12:12] <dazvid> Whats the question adaran
[12:12] <dazvid> :)
[12:12] <bob2> here...
[12:12] <adaran> well, i'm in the market for a new distro, i've been using debian for 2 years, but i've finally decided that it's not a good desktop distro, mainly because i like current software
[12:13] <deFrysk> adaran, then ubuntu is a good choice
[12:13] <dazvid> Ubuntu has a release cycle of 6 months
[12:13] <adaran> my main gripe is that i constantly have to install stuff from testing or unstable to have current software (kde 3.4, for example) which breaks old stuff with conflicting libs
[12:13] <Wilf> ubotu?
[12:13] <adaran> well, i was shooting for kubuntu, as i understand it, it's ubuntu with a few extra packages?
[12:13] <Wilf> !ubotu
[12:13] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild
[12:13] <nige> okay, so i scroll through to where i can see the error messages, adn on there it says:  "The X server is now disabled Restart GDM when it is configured correctly"
[12:13] <adaran> what about security updates?
[12:13] <deFrysk> adaran, ubuntu has releases every april and october
[12:14] <adaran> oh
[12:14] <adaran> should i  wait another month then? =)
[12:14] <nige> all i can do is say okay, but my keyboard now has become a garbled mess..... i am using breezy!
[12:14] <deFrysk> and security apdates are maintained properly asif you were in debian itself
[12:14] <Wilf> ubotu, moose
[12:14] <ubotu> it has been said that moose is a long haired beastie with antlers .
[12:14] <bob2> no
[12:14] <Kilter> the moinmoin-common package that comes down with apt doesn't seem to have the same information as the setup on the moinmoin help page.  is there a howto for this somewhere that anyone knows of?
[12:14] <bob2> security for ubuntu only happens for things in the "main" section
[12:14] <ompaul> adaran, there is no time like the present :)
[12:14] <LadyLinux> nalioth_zZz: Not bad.  I hope this place allows it.
[12:14] <bob2> Kilter: you'll want the moin package
[12:15] <adaran> deFrysk, i don't think theres that good security in debian, mainly because if you want current packages, they are from non-stable and get not security updates =(
[12:15] <bob2> sid gets very timely security updates
[12:15] <bob2> generally
[12:15] <bob2> if you want up to date stuff, ubuntu is not for you, either
[12:15] <adaran> i see. well, i'll give it a shot. i'm a bit reluctant because that means at least 2 days of configuring, but maybe it's time well spent
[12:15] <bob2> since that means running ubuntu's development branch, which is often more broken than sid
[12:16] <Kilter> bob2: the moin package was depreciated.
[12:16] <deFrysk> adaran, you sound more like a person who wants mandake-cooker
[12:16] <adaran> bob2, let's take kde 3.4 for example
[12:16] <deFrysk> mandriva even
[12:16] <bob2> adaran: which is in sid, no?
[12:16] <bob2> no, no one wants mandrake cooker, they want sid
[12:16] <deFrysk> bob2, jk ;p
[12:17] <adaran> bob2, yes. problem is, i also want to use kbiff, which i can't install because there's no version in sid iirc, and it depends on an old kde lib that conflicts with the new one from sid
[12:17] <LadyLinux> bob2:  I'm also going to buy Debian Sarge in a couple weeks.
[12:17] <Wilf> love
[12:17] <Wilf> ubotu, love
 this place has got more love than a bus full of hippies
[12:17] <HrdwrBoB> LadyLinux: buy?
[12:17] <bob2> adaran: right, known bug
[12:17] <adaran> bob2, well, the other alternative would be a commercial distro
[12:17] <bob2> adaran: you can trivially fix it yourself, or wait
[12:18] <bob2> adaran: fixing = apt-get source -b kbdiff ; sudo dpkg -i kbiff*.deb
[12:18] <ompaul> Wilf, stop playing with the bot /msg ubotu for your fun and games please
[12:18] <adaran> so i should use source packages? =/
[12:18] <LadyLinux> HrdwrBoB: Unless you want to burn me a set and mail them.
[12:18] <bob2> adaran: no, if you're going to use sid, you just deal with trivial bugs like that
[12:18] <bob2> adaran: or you even find someone to upload it to sid for you, so it's fixed for everyone
[12:19] <HrdwrBoB> LadyLinux: I don't have any debian isos handy since I switched to ubuntu
[12:19] <adaran> bob2, or upload to sid myself, eh? =)
[12:19] <bob2> adaran: exactly!
[12:19] <bob2> sid isn't an OS, it's a way of life
[12:19] <adaran> bob2, that's a very debianish attitude =)
[12:19] <Wilf> ubotu, ompaul
[12:19] <ubotu> Wilf: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:19] <bob2> heh
[12:19] <Wilf> :(
[12:19] <bob2> I'm surprised I'm in such a good debian mood right now
[12:19] <LadyLinux> HrdwrBoB: I wish I could get all the packages I need for music software.
[12:20] <adaran> *sigh* all i wanted was something that is a.) current (as in kde 3.4, not kde 3.4.2) and b.) works
[12:20] <prolsd> hmm.
[12:20] <adaran> bob2, know any good commercial distros? if they're rpm based, but supply something like aptitude, i could warm up for that
[12:20] <LadyLinux> HrdwrBoB: I'm only dialup
[12:20] <Seveas> f00li5h, please stop adding crap to the bot
[12:20] <Seveas> !forget moose
[12:20] <ubotu> i forgot moose, Seveas
[12:21] <Seveas> !forget beastie
[12:21] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot beastie
[12:21] <LadyLinux> HrdwrBoB: I have no burner.
[12:21] <Seveas> !forget syntax
[12:21] <ubotu> i forgot syntax, Seveas
[12:21] <adaran> the worst thing is, i can't remember why i had to have kde 3.4....
[12:22] <deFrysk> adaran, I have even forgotten why i ever liked kde
[12:22] <adaran> deFrysk, me too
[12:22] <adaran> deFrysk, then i tried gnome and remembered =)
[12:23] <deFrysk> adaran, you are talking to someone whe prefers gnome
[12:23] <johnnybezak> haha don't knock the gnome
[12:23] <deFrysk> ;p
[12:23] <adaran> deFrysk, however, i've been becoming increasingly frustrated with software in general
[12:23] <deFrysk> adaran, me increasingly less actually
[12:23] <johnnybezak> adaran: go back to the abacus then :P
[12:23] <adaran> something like that
[12:23] <adaran> all i have left is buying a mac
[12:24] <adaran> trying zeta os or what it's called
[12:24] <LadyLinux> ne1 from south central US?
[12:24] <adaran> but that's end of the line =)
[12:24] <Seveas> !forget !forget
[12:24] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot !forget
[12:24] <Seveas> I hate idiots that add crap to the bot...
[12:24] <F_for_Fragging> I installed bittorrent-gui, but it doesn't have a menu entry and it doesn't start from the terminal either. I'm using the Breezy preview, anyone else having this problem?
[12:25] <concept10> LadyLinux: South Central?
[12:25] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, yust use gnome-bitorrent ;)
[12:25] <selinium> F_for_Fragging, Have you tried just clicking on a torrent?
[12:25] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, its in the menu under internet
[12:25] <LadyLinux> Is there any Linux groups in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico area.
[12:26] <LadyLinux> concept10: I think that answers it.
[12:26] <concept10> LadyLinux: North Texas LUG
[12:26] <johnnybezak> is there a wireless applett in breezy
[12:26] <Seveas> yes
[12:26] <LadyLinux> concept10: You that close?
[12:26] <concept10> LadyLinux: I dont know about the other states, I live in texas
[12:26] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, I know that gnome-bittorrent is installed by default, but it lacks features, it doesn't let me cap the download and it doesn't let me select the port which bittorrent should use
[12:27] <LadyLinux> concept10: You live near Dallas?
[12:27] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, ok
[12:27] <concept10> LadyLinux: Yep
[12:27] <LadyLinux> concept10: May I msg you, Please.
[12:27] <bob2> adaran: nah, I hate the idea of not being able to fix my distro :)
[12:28] <concept10> LadyLinux: Yep.
[12:28] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, if you hit bt <tab> <tab> you have all the bt executables to look at
[12:29] <shinu> why cant my cutenews write to the news.txt file?
[12:29] <shinu> do i have to set some permissions?
[12:31] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, thank you. Just tried that, but the right executable doesn't seem to be installed
[12:31] <reter> hello.
[12:31] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, btdownloadgui <arguments>
[12:31] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, btdownloadgui <arguments> <url>
[12:32] <kai_> At ubuntuguide.org i read that you can make computer_icon_visible to show the icon at the desktop. But how do i get it "checked", the only thing i can do are add a key....?
[12:32] <reter> i switched to breezy and now i have 700 files that needs to be upgraded but everytime i try to upgrade and when it gets to the end all these error messages appear and it ends up not upgrading the files..what do i do?
[12:32] <Wilf> ubotu, quit?
[12:32] <ubotu> /quit
[12:32] <Wilf> >:(
[12:32] <adaran> bob2, i tried the kbiff thing too
[12:32] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, thank you. But there is no graphical frontend to bittorrent which I can start? It only works from the terminal?
[12:32] <adaran> bob2, 16 packages upgraded, 55 newly installed just to get the development files =)
[12:33] <CaiN_SA> reter, sudo apt-get distupgrade :)
[12:33] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, alt-f2 and hit your desired command
[12:33] <kai_> anyone know how to make the desktop icons show?
[12:33] <kaelisra> hmm...
[12:34] <kaelisra> i need some help with my sound >.<
[12:34] <Madpilot> kai_: right click on the desktop, select Create Launcher
[12:34] <reter> CaiN_SA, invalid operation
[12:34] <boxerboy> default ubuntu might have a trash icon and thats it you have to make rest
[12:34] <CaiN_SA> reter, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[12:35] <kai_> Madpilot, and? i want the home and computer icon to show...
[12:35] <kaelisra> i can't seem to get it to work, atm, its not muted, i know that much, and i've got a working driver, appearantly.
[12:35] <Madpilot> kai_: this isn't Windows - look under the Places menu for that stuff
[12:35] <claviceps> hahahaha
[12:35] <deFrysk> kai_, apt-get install gtweakui and set your desired settings
[12:35] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, thanks for your help, but if both bittorrent-gui and gnome-bittorrent don't work for me, I think I'll go back to Azureus
[12:36] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, if you have a fast pc , why not ?
[12:36] <tech_> hallow rooM
[12:36] <reter> cain, what does that do? what is the difference between that and regular upgrade
[12:37] <johnnybezak> bam breezy packages finished downloading, now its install reboot and pray
[12:37] <tech_> Dear all am the new Obuntu user
[12:37] <boxerboy> there was an easier way instead of downloading it
[12:37] <deFrysk> <--agnostic
[12:37] <holycow> johnnybezak, you should be okaay, i installed via iso
[12:37] <tech_> i decided to shift from windows to linux
[12:37] <concept10> johnnybezak: come back here and tell me how it went
[12:37] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, my PC can handle Azureus, but I don't like it because it suffers from bloat and featuritis, unfortunately it's my only choice since Azureus has decent UPnP functionality
[12:38] <holycow> tech_, welcome
[12:38] <johnnybezak> concept10: haha sure got nothing better to do
[12:38] <dazvid> I like Azureus :)
[12:38] <holycow> tech_, how long have you been using linux?
[12:38] <boxerboy> welcome to the working os
[12:38] <tech_> thanks holycow
[12:38] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, I agree for some part
[12:38] <concept10> F_for_Fragging: try disabling the distributed database
[12:38] <reter> why is breezy better than hoary?
[12:38] <tech_> three month now
[12:38] <johnnybezak> i wish you could get a net install of ubuntu
[12:38] <godzero> Azureus caused BIG memory leaks for me under Kubuntu HH (like 1GB!)
[12:38] <johnnybezak> then i could get debian off my little server
[12:39] <holycow> reter, it's not, its still dev and lots of things to be fixed
[12:39] <boxerboy> everything is upgraded (most)
[12:39] <LadyLinux9> concept10: I was diconnected.
[12:39] <bimberi> kai_, Applications -> System Tools -> Configuratoin Editor, apps -> nautilus -> desktop (computer_icon_visible, home_icon_visible)
[12:39] <deFrysk> reter, because ubuntu aims to improve
[12:39] <F_for_Fragging> I'm behind a router so Azureus is my only choice, bittorrent-gnome is simply to limited and bittorrent-gui is flawed as well
[12:39] <tech_> but am a beginner
[12:39] <concept10> LadyLinux: oh, okay. I wondered what happened to you
[12:39] <F_for_Fragging> Linux sucks so much for bittorrent users
[12:39] <deFrysk> its not ubuntus policy to make things worse
[12:39] <F_for_Fragging> but thanks for your help deFrysk
[12:39] <boxerboy> i use gnome bittorrent
[12:39] <boxerboy> i have a router
[12:39] <holycow> F_for_Fragging, how so? you have auzereus available.  what is the issue?
[12:40] <LadyLinux9> concept10: I was in the middle of a dl and had to start over.
[12:40] <F_for_Fragging> holycow, it's not in the breezy repo yet
[12:40] <holycow> F_for_Fragging, its a java ip
[12:40] <holycow> app
[12:40] <deFrysk> holycow, java apps suck like black holes
[12:40] <holycow> it has no reason to be in a repo
[12:40] <holycow> just download and run after you have installed 1.5 jre
[12:40] <concept10> LadyLinux: what distro do you need?
[12:40] <holycow> i don't see the issue?
[12:40] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, you mean that gnome-bittorrent has no problem with your router?
[12:40] <boxerboy> not 1 bit
[12:41] <holycow> deFrysk, hehe i like java, i avoid it but the jre's are improving in performance
[12:41] <F_for_Fragging> yes, it's very unfortunate that azureus uses java...
[12:41] <kaelisra> ^^;;;
[12:41] <holycow> F_for_Fragging, mine doesn't at all
[12:41] <LadyLinux9> concept10: May I chat pvt again please?
[12:41] <holycow> F_for_Fragging, it's not unfortunate at all, if it didn't you wouldn't be using it on linux or osx
[12:41] <boxerboy> do you have the firewall set in your router?
[12:41] <holycow> its actually a really decent implementation
[12:41] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, I'll give gnome-bt another try then, thanks
[12:41] <holycow> people just love to hate java for no particular reason
[12:42] <boxerboy> yw
[12:42] <F_for_Fragging> no, no firewall
[12:42] <concept10> LadyLinux: yes
[12:42] <F_for_Fragging> but i assume i should forward port 6881 for bt, right?
[12:42] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, without open source torrents would have never existed dont forget that ;)
[12:42] <boxerboy> ok heres something i didnt like on colony 3 my gnome bittorrent works great on colony 4 nothing works right
[12:43] <F_for_Fragging> yes, but what I meant was that I'm a bit disappointed with the bittorrent apps for linux
[12:43] <holycow> deFrysk, exactly
[12:43] <ds[de] > deFrysk: how so?
[12:43] <johnnybezak> many of you guys use evolution>?
[12:43] <deFrysk> how so what ?
[12:43] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, but you do need to have port 6881 forwarded right?
[12:43] <ds[de] > how without o.s. torrents would have never existed
[12:44] <markrian> Evolution uses the wrong locale (en-us, as opposed to what I want, en-gb) no matter what I do. All other programs obey locale settings, except Evolution. I've even tried creating a new user (i.e., completely fresh settings), but the problem remains
[12:44] <deFrysk> ds[de] , bittorrent is an open source project
[12:44] <boxerboy> i didnt have to screw with the ports
[12:44] <Sly> markian im uk too, mine works fine =\
[12:44] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, ok then I'll try, thx
[12:44] <boxerboy> yw
[12:44] <ds[de] > boxerboy: i see
[12:44] <markrian> Sly, I know, there's something funny with my configuration somewhere
[12:45] <markrian> And I cannot for the life of me work out what
[12:45] <Sly> :(
[12:45] <boxerboy> you have all of ur repos right? or just the default ones?
[12:45] <Sly> well i best go iron all my stuff i want for college :( ,
[12:45] <boxerboy> if you set the multi unuverse ones there is an update for gnome torrent
[12:46] <boxerboy> universe
[12:47] <waxhead> hi everyone
[12:47] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, I'm using the breezy preview, so I'l probably have the latest version
[12:47] <boxerboy> u still have to set the repos
[12:48] <waxhead> how stable is breezy?
[12:48] <z|bandito> root      5552  0.0  0.1   1552   216 ?        Ss   Sep08   0:00 /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg
[12:48] <boxerboy> im using breezy also
[12:48] <z|bandito> root      5771  6.8 18.0  44444 22760 ?        S    Sep08 406:33 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[12:48] <z|bandito> what are those?
[12:48] <waxhead> is it worth the risk to upgrade to now?
[12:48] <boxerboy> repositories
[12:48] <kai_> When i try to play a audio cd, its plays with bad sound and fragmented, what can i do to correct this?
[12:48] <F_for_Fragging> waxhead, I'm using the breezy preview release right now and I haven't had a single crash
[12:49] <z|bandito> kai you can try different audio settings under the options and multimedia
[12:49] <boxerboy> if you go to ubuntu upgarder and click on settings and check all the boxes in there you will see lil boxes next to each repo check all
[12:49] <waxhead> F_for_Fragging, it's not so much the crashing as hte package breakage
[12:49] <kai_> z|bandito, where??
[12:49] <rambo3> do i need an extra server in sources.list to get afterstep ?
[12:49] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, btw , azureus can be easily locally installed, no deb needed
[12:49] <z|bandito> do you guys see similar processes if you do ps aux | grep root ?
[12:49] <kai_> mp3/ogg plays perfect
[12:50] <z|bandito> oh, i dunno, don't have gnome in front of me, i think it's system -> multimedia and sound settings
[12:50] <z|bandito> or seomthing
[12:50] <F_for_Fragging> boxerboy, I have version 0.0.18
[12:50] <boxerboy> than for muti universe you go to www.ubuntuguide.org and u have to add lines in the folder it shows you how to do it in the add extra repos section of the guide
[12:50] <cevizoglu> sudo poweroff
[12:50] <z|bandito> but when i have the problem, i can't play netradio or anything.. though gnome ui sounds are ok
[12:50] <waxhead> where's the package list for the different versions located?
[12:50] <F_for_Fragging> deFrysk, I know, but I'd like to use the repositories
[12:50] <deFrysk> F_for_Fragging, stay out of ubuntuguid btw
[12:51] <kai_> hm i have to make cd playback work!
[12:51] <boxerboy> why it works great for me
[12:51] <deFrysk> boxerboy, good for you but its a bad/poor resource
[12:51] <F_for_Fragging> currently downloading a torrent with gnome-btdownload, but it doesn't go higher than 3 KB/s >*
[12:51] <deFrysk> !ubuntuguide
[12:51] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[12:52] <boxerboy> oh ok see i didnt know that
[12:52] <boxerboy> thank you
[12:53] <boxerboy> when is breezy set for release??
[12:53] <deFrysk> oct 13
[12:53] <boxerboy> these are still betas no?
[12:53] <holycow> have you guys ever noticed that sometimes you do a software update via gui and there are no updates, then you apt-get update and all of a sudden there are tons?
[12:53] <boxerboy> ok
[12:53] <deFrysk> boxerboy, releses are always in april and oct.
[12:54] <boxerboy> oh cool ok ty
[12:54] <ReoJan> hello
[12:54] <waxhead> holycow, yeah, just noticed that myself
[12:54] <boxerboy> brb im gonna try that
[12:54] <ebf> to anybody: how and where would i configure this "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"
[12:54] <waxhead> I'm wondering if the update manager works right
[12:54] <holycow> i'm thinking its time to post a bug
[12:54] <deFrysk> update manager is set to check once a day
[12:55] <ompaul> waxhead, why would you think it does not?
[12:55] <deFrysk> not 100 times a day
[12:55] <holycow> deFrysk, when you start it up manually it doesn't download updates?
[12:55] <holycow> it sure looks like it does
[12:55] <waxhead> ompaul, because I've been using the update manage, nothing to update, I run synaptic, update the list, and then quit... check the updates and there are zillions...
[12:56] <deFrysk> holycow, it does it once a day , on my box in the morning
[12:56] <ebf> to anybody: how and where would i configure this "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"
[12:56] <waxhead> ompaul, but it could just be coincidence that this is the case.
[12:56] <holycow> deFrysk, thats fine, but when you start it up manually, it says downloading updated info or similar
[12:56] <boxerboy> my apt-get updates dont work
[12:56] <holycow> it clearly isn't downloading anything
[12:56] <boxerboy> with and without sudo
[12:56] <ompaul> waxhead, synaptic does a query when you start it - your timing on update manager may be a lot later today :)
[12:56] <ReoJan> can i install window games on my ubuntu OS?
[12:57] <Sly> apt-get updates or spt-get update
[12:57] <Sly> ?
[12:57] <deFrysk> holycow, if you would reboot now you'd see it wil not do that again
[12:57] <waxhead> apt-get update
[12:57] <Stalwart> ReoJan, use wine or cedega
[12:57] <boxerboy> apt-get
[12:57] <holycow> deFrysk, sure that still doesn't answer my question tho
[12:57] <Sly-College> i was talking to boxerboy asking if he was typing updates
[12:57] <ompaul> ReoJan, in some cases yes in some cases not using the tools Stalwart names
[12:57] <waxhead> Sly-College, then apt-get upgrade
[12:57] <Sly-College> and ifso take the s off :)
[12:57] <ReoJan> i use wine and cedega, but my games doesnt work
[12:57] <boxerboy> boxerboy@boxer:~$ apt-get updates
[12:57] <boxerboy> E: Invalid operation updates
[12:57] <boxerboy> boxerboy@boxer:~$ sudo apt-get updates
[12:57] <boxerboy> Password:
[12:57] <boxerboy> E: Invalid operation updates
[12:57] <boxerboy> boxerboy@boxer:~$
[12:57] <deFrysk> holycow, what question ?
[12:57] <Sly-College> boxer boy
[12:57] <boxerboy> thats the output
[12:57] <Sly-College> its update not updates
[12:57] <holycow> *sigh*
[12:57] <holycow> nm
[12:57] <ebf> sly: where and how would i configure this? "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"
[12:58] <ompaul> waxhead, if you had apt-get update it would have kicked your update manager
[12:58] <ompaul> boxerboy, when you want to flood do paste.ubuntulinux.nl not in the channel
[12:58] <Sly-College> thanx anyway wazhead :)
[12:58] <Sly-College> wax*
[12:59] <boxerboy> oh ok sorry
[12:59] <ompaul> boxerboy, and u must use sudo apt-get update
[12:59] <boxerboy> i did both
[12:59] <ebf> Sly-College:  where and how would i configure this? "$ glxinfo | grep #direct rendering#"
[12:59] <boxerboy> i just did sudo apt-get upgrade and it showed 0
[12:59] <Sly-College> boxerboy , so your saying sudo apt-get update odnt work either
[12:59] <ompaul> boxerboy, you have an _S_ at the end of the word it is  updatE all lower case
[01:00] <Sly-College> ebf , its not glzgears its some info about your graphics you want to grep to find direct rendering yes/no
[01:00] <aftertaf> anyone help me with debootstrap...?
[01:00] <Sly-College> dunno what tho
[01:00] <ebf> yup
[01:00] <aftertaf> i'm behind a http proxy, ive set proxy settings in wgetrc and in environment, but failing to get package...
[01:00] <boxerboy> ack theres a crap load of them
[01:00] <ompaul> as one ozzie said this morning it is simple when you know how, but when you first try it, it seems so hard,
[01:00] <Sly-College> ebf , cant remember for the life of me what :(
[01:01] <boxerboy> it looks like there were 21
[01:02] <ompaul> boxerboy, and some days nothing
[01:02] <boxerboy> is it the update manger has a bug?
[01:03] <reiki> when I click on a .wmv file on a website, I am only given the choice to open it with Totem. I installed mplayer and it works, however mplayer doesn't show up in the list of apps offerred to open the file. How can I fix that?
[01:03] <ompaul> boxerboy, no - it was not its time to check - it checks once a day
[01:03] <boxerboy> oh ok
[01:04] <boxerboy> it seems they update faster doing it that way anyway
[01:04] <Tomcat_> reiki: The combobox that has totem has an item where you can choose the application. Choose mplayer there.
[01:04] <Sly-College> has anyone completed neverball ?
[01:04] <Tomcat_> reiki: From that point, mplayer will always be there, and you can make it the default somewhere in the preferences.
[01:05] <boxerboy> has anyone else noticed problems with gaim in breezy yet?
[01:05] <snorks|school> lal
[01:05] <kai_> i cant play or rip a audiocd (it sounds just bad), can it have something to do with dma settings?
[01:05] <reiki> Tomcat_, I chose mplayer, checked the box that says, "Do this all the time" and next time I click a wmv file I have to chose all over again. MPlayer isn't in the list (combobox)
[01:07] <Sly-College> im out
[01:07] <godzero> kai_ sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[01:07] <kai_> godzero, have done that
[01:09] <kai_> hm i cant start toem either, but rhytmebox are working ok
[01:09] <Somada142> hi, does anyone know if there is a program similar to ACDSEE for ubuntu?
[01:10] <Somada142> in order to browse trough pictures in a folder?
[01:10] <deFrysk> Somada142, gthumb
[01:11] <aftertaf> Somada142:  kde has a picture previewer, gnome must have too... tried a right click in nautilus?
[01:11] <Somada142> the built-in program opens one at a time so i'll try gthumb
[01:11] <godzero> kai_: can you play a wav from harddrive w/o clipping, etc
[01:12] <Wilf> ubotu?
[01:12] <deFrysk> Somada142, should do the trick :)
[01:12] <holycow> what is the name of the other ubuntu help site other than wiki.ubuntu.com?  it was unrelated to the project it self but had great how to's
[01:12] <kai_> godzero, yes
[01:12] <deFrysk> holycow, that one is unmentioned here and unreliable
[01:12] <kai_> mp3/ogg/wav from HD works
[01:12] <holycow> okay
[01:13] <godzero> kai_: set read speed lower
[01:13] <Somada142> isn't there a way to use my 5.1 sound system with ubuntu?
[01:13] <johnnybezak> haha the suspense of waiting for all the packages to install on my breezy update is killing me
[01:14] <bob2> Somada142: depends on your hardware
[01:14] <kai_> godzero, i cant copy wavs from cd to hd neighter. How do i set the readspeed lower?
[01:14] <Somada142> i have a on board sound card on my gigabyte mb
[01:14] <boxerboy> is that breezy hot-to guide gonna be out before the release by some chance?
[01:14] <boxerboy> how-to*
[01:15] <godzero> hrm, I'm in knoppix right now; which player are you using?
[01:16] <Somada142> i tried both totem,ruthmbox and they use only 3 speakers
[01:16] <Somada142> they don't use the 2 rear speakers
[01:16] <Somada142> rythmbox*
[01:16] <samu2> did something big happen? there are 53 updates available all of a sudden
[01:16] <Somada142> breezy preview
[01:16] <holycow> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53050&highlight=mythtv  <-- okay this is nifty
[01:17] <boxerboy> when was last time you updated it?
[01:17] <Somada142> what are the updates breezy introdues?
[01:17] <Somada142> damn ..introduces*
[01:17] <johnnybezak> Somada142: loads of them
[01:17] <samu2> i update whenever possible
[01:18] <Somada142> like?
[01:18] <Frafra> hi all
[01:18] <Somada142> should i wait for the final or should i update now?
[01:18] <fooboy> is ubuntu for n00bs
[01:18] <johnnybezak> Somada142: like loads of updated packages, new gnome
[01:18] <Smoking_n00b> can i use midnight commander with ubuntu, i installed it with synaptic but i am unable to launch midnight commander
[01:18] <johnnybezak> foob: what do you mean?
[01:19] <johnnybezak> fooboy: like linspire do you mean?
[01:19] <Frafra> i can't install vlc on breezy (it need dbus and libhal, but it can't install those). what i must do?
[01:19] <fooboy> i dunno
[01:19] <fooboy> like suse
[01:20] <fooboy> i like ubuntu
[01:20] <Smoking_n00b> <my opinion> i have ercently installed and played with suse,debian,ubuntu,vector. i think ubuntu is the most n00b friendly
[01:20] <johnnybezak> fooboy: well its different to suse. it uses gnome by default, but it's not harder than suse. it recognises hardware well software updates installation is good
[01:20] <fooboy> sometimes it seems a bit restrictive
[01:20] <johnnybezak> fooboy: in what way?
[01:21] <Frafra> can i install vlc on breezy?
[01:21] <fooboy> just
[01:21] <fooboy> in the default install
[01:22] <johnnybezak> Frafra: i don't see why not
[01:22] <fooboy> but it is easy to use
[01:23] <johnnybezak> fooboy: ok i just don't get how it's restrictive, it has a *huge* amount of packages you can install
[01:23] <Frafra> johnnybezak: sudo apt-get install vlc doesn't works
[01:23] <Frafra> it need dbus and libhal, but it can't install they
[01:23] <fooboy> yeah
[01:23] <fooboy> can u get a KDE desktop
[01:24] <Smoking_n00b> fresh install of ubuntu, i dont remember it asking for a root user/password, i only created one user. how do i become root?
[01:24] <johnnybezak> Frafra: when did you last do an update
[01:24] <HrdwrBoB> !rootsuso
[01:24] <ubotu> HrdwrBoB: No idea
[01:24] <HrdwrBoB> !rootsudo
[01:24] <ubotu> I heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:24] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:24] <johnnybezak> Smoking_n00b: to execute commands with root type sudo commandname
[01:24] <Smoking_n00b> bob2 thanks
[01:24] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: the installer explained this and made you hit 'enter' at one point...
[01:24] <Smoking_n00b> i was pretty tired when i installed ubuntu :)
[01:24] <fooboy> i could type sudo passwd
[01:25] <fooboy> a set the root password
[01:25] <Frafra> johnnybezak: 1 min ago
[01:25] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, i installed konsole from synaptic, but cant seem to launch it or find it, any ideas?
[01:25] <holycow> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769&page=1&pp=10&highlight=mythtv  <-- neat
[01:26] <holycow> note to noobs: make sure you backup your xorg.conf file if you try the stuff in the post
[01:27] <Somada142> Question : isn't there a way to use my 5.1 sound system with ubuntu?, I've tried both totem.rythmbox and even when i set the sound to 5.1 from totem's options it still's uses only 3 speakers
[01:27] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: alt-f2 konsole <enter>
[01:27] <boxerboy> wait did i read that right if i type in sudo -s i dont have to type sudo before each command?
[01:27] <bob2> Somada142: depends on your hardware
[01:27] <bob2> boxerboy: yes
[01:28] <Smoking_n00b> bob2 thank you :)
[01:28] <boxerboy> thank you that sudo b4 each command was getting kinda old
[01:28] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: you can use the menu editor "smeg" to put it in the menu if you like
[01:28] <wedgeV> how do i get the restricged formats stuff for breezy?
[01:28] <fooboy> is their anyway to get an X-nested terminal in ubuntu
[01:29] <bob2> sure
[01:29] <bob2> Xnest
[01:29] <bob2> maybe Xephyr is in breezy, too
[01:29] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, it launched konsole, but i am used to typing MC to get midnight commander. this didnt work ,what have i done wrong?
[01:29] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: did you install mc?
[01:30] <ishit> i installed skype n its not oppening
[01:30] <Wermut> How can I disable the ALT- Key behaviour in GNOME? Pressing the ALT-Key and highlighting text in OpenOffice moves the active window instead of highlighting the text.
[01:30] <Smoking_n00b> bob2 ,no. i thought it was a part of konsole, i installed konsole
[01:30] <ishit> any help plz
[01:30] <godzero> kai_: example: xmms, options, audio i/o plug tab, audio cd reader from list, configure, output tab, cdrom speed
[01:30] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: no, midnight commander is another program that existed for about ten years before konsole did
[01:30] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: install "mc" with your packagemananegemtn tool of choice
[01:31] <bob2> ishit: you need to be more specific
[01:31] <ishit> i got an error:error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:31] <aftertaf> ishit:  probably have to pay now ;)
[01:31] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, thanks , i will try to do that.
[01:31] <ishit> this is the error - -error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:32] <ishit> wat do i do
[01:32] <bob2> ishit: sudo aptitude install libqt3c102
[01:32] <SpongeLinux> can anyone help me to install this emd-0.5.tar.gz
[01:32] <ishit> k ill try jus a sec
[01:32] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, i search in synaptic package manager for midnight commander, it only finds the konsole that i installed earlier. is there another search place i can use with synaptic?
[01:33] <wedgeV> where is an apt source for the restricted formats packages (libdvdcss, lame, etc.) for breezy?
[01:33] <SpongeLinux> can anyone help me i want to install this emd-0.5.tar.gz
[01:33] <bob2> !+repositories
[01:33] <ubotu> repositories is, like, totally, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:33] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: ^^
[01:33] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: it's in universe in the package called "mc"
[01:33] <Somada142> Anyone kows anything about gnomebaker?
[01:33] <ishit> no bob it did not work
[01:33] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, thanks again
[01:34] <SpongeLinux> can anyone know how to install it
[01:34] <bob2> SpongeLinux: what is it?
[01:34] <bob2> ishit: "did not work" is useless
[01:34] <godzero> kai_:?
[01:34] <bob2> ishit: paste the error to #flood or give up
[01:34] <SpongeLinux> i want to install this filename emd-0.5.tar.gz
[01:34] <ishit> then??
[01:34] <reiki> hmmm... ok I have serious problems with the mplayer plugin for firefox. It crashes firefox :)  Sometimes. Othertimes it gives me sound and no video or other times nothing at all
[01:34] <bob2> SpongeLinux: and what on earth is it?
[01:34] <Smoking_n00b> how do i copy text from the xchat window?
[01:34] <bob2> ishit: read what I said
[01:34] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: select, middle click to paste it
[01:34] <Smoking_n00b> :)
[01:34] <ishit>  #flood
[01:35] <kai_> godzero, i do not use xmms....
[01:35] <SpongeLinux> its a media player for linux
[01:35] <wedgeV> no one knows?
[01:35] <ishit> wats  #flood
[01:35] <godzero> kai_: what do you use?
[01:35] <kai_> rhytmbox, and gnome cd player for cds
[01:35] <aftertaf> ishit:  join #flood, its a channel
[01:35] <bob2> ishit: an IRC channel
[01:36] <johnnybezak> ishit: for putting large amounts of crap in there that would spam a normal channel
[01:36] <onkarshinde> How can one propose any application to be included in universe repository?
[01:36] <nemptor> hello everybody!
[01:36] <wedgeV> where is an apt source for the restricted formats packages (libdvdcss, lame, etc.) for breezy?
[01:36] <nemptor> i want to ask something, about cedega?
[01:37] <Lipsanteri> Hi! Which file system type should i use with ubuntu, ext2 or ext3?
[01:37] <johnnybezak> onkarshinde: what do you want to get packaged
[01:37] <onkarshinde> Lipsanteri: ext3
[01:37] <bob2> onkarshinde: wiki/MOTU
[01:37] <hhurtta> Lipsanteri: ext3 or reiserfs
[01:37] <bob2> Lipsanteri: ext3
[01:37] <Lipsanteri> ok, thanks :)
[01:37] <bob2> ishit: sudo aptitude install
[01:37] <bob2> ishit: sudo aptitude install libqt3c102-mt
[01:38] <onkarshinde> johnnybezak: I was hoping that SeaMonkey alpha (now community managed Mozilla Suite) will make to universe before Breezy release.
[01:38] <ishit> k bob ill try
[01:38] <ishit> jus sec
[01:38] <onkarshinde> bob2: On exactly which page?
[01:38] <johnnybezak> onkarshinde: ah ok
[01:38] <Smoking_n00b> bob2, why are some software sources disabled by default?
[01:38] <bob2> onkarshinde: dunno, ask them: #ubuntu-motu
[01:39] <bob2> Smoking_n00b: because people should know they're going to install unsupported or non-free crap before selecting it in synaptic
[01:39] <uberBRAT> hello people
[01:39] <Smoking_n00b> OH!
[01:39] <uberBRAT> i can't get ubuntu to connect to the internet using my adsl modem
[01:39] <uberBRAT> adsl-start doesn't work
[01:39] <ishit> no luck bob
[01:40] <bob2> ishit: sudo aptitude install libqt3c102
[01:40] <bob2> and god skype is shit
[01:40] <bob2> uberBRAT: pon dsl-provider
[01:40] <uberBRAT> bob2: what?
[01:40] <ompaul> bob2, tell e-bay :)
[01:40] <bob2> uberBRAT: assuming you used pppoeconf to configure it
[01:40] <ishit> even k3b has the same error
[01:40] <messiahs> hi
[01:40] <bob2> ishit: then stop installing junk from outside ubuntu
[01:40] <messiahs> i have a quetion
[01:40] <bob2> ishit: or someone has toasted your disk
[01:40] <ishit> hehe
[01:40] <bob2> k3b is in ubuntu, anyway
[01:40] <bob2> you have no excuse, there
[01:41] <ishit> everytime i instal ubuntu it does not instal properly
[01:41] <johnnybezak> messiahs: shoot
[01:41] <SoleKiller> umm guys
[01:41] <bob2> ishit: then perhaps your disk is screwed
[01:41] <messiahs> i have a ubuntu hoary in my PC
[01:41] <ishit> its a brand new disk
[01:41] <SoleKiller> can i get some help?
[01:41] <messiahs> and i want update to breezy
[01:42] <bob2> SoleKiller: perhaps if you ask a question...
[01:42] <SoleKiller> lol
[01:42] <ompaul> !tell SoleKiller about ask
[01:42] <ishit> n anyways i tried wit another disk
[01:42] <bob2> messiahs: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:42] <johnnybezak> messiahs: a hedge hog in your computer that sounds nasty ;)
[01:43] <ishit> bob: is my motherboard incompatible
[01:43] <SoleKiller> okok
[01:43] <SoleKiller> i think im ready
[01:43] <bob2> ishit: I doubt that
[01:43] <ishit> cause its only wit my machine
[01:44] <ompaul> ishit, please change your nick its crap
[01:44] <messiahs> thanks
[01:44] <SoleKiller> i treid to iinstall kubuntu on a p1 and the xorg thingie didnt run maybe coz i dont have enough ram or my crad is not good enough 4 kde
[01:44] <SoleKiller> anyways
[01:44] <SoleKiller> is there a distro you know will work on most pcs from that age?
[01:44] <SoleKiller> maybe the old kern?
[01:44] <ishit> bob: its a new system
[01:44] <bob2> so	"that age"?
[01:44] <bob2> aren't you going to tell us about your computer first?
[01:44] <ishit> ompaul: shut up jackass
[01:45] <SoleKiller> humz
[01:45] <SoleKiller> well
[01:45] <SoleKiller> thought i should
[01:45] <ishit> wat do i do bob
[01:45] <johnnybezak> everybody lets chill out and spread the ubuntu
[01:45] <bob2> ompaul: ishit stop it
[01:45] <bob2> and please do try to use English in here
[01:45] <SoleKiller> oh no one talks to me lol
[01:45] <SoleKiller> ill shutup
[01:46] <bob2> SoleKiller: you haven't actually told us about your machine
[01:46] <ishit> hey bob is there any other version of ubuntu
[01:46] <bob2> KDE is not really suitable for a pentium one, tho
[01:46] <SoleKiller> humz
[01:46] <SoleKiller> thats the basic prob
[01:46] <bob2> and you need 48MB of ram to actually install
[01:46] <SoleKiller> i have it for so long
[01:46] <SoleKiller> i forgot its info
[01:46] <SoleKiller> got any of those cool lil progs that tells ya shit
[01:46] <SoleKiller> about the pc
[01:46] <bob2> that won't help
[01:46] <SoleKiller> ?
[01:46] <SoleKiller> like that miranda?
[01:46] <bob2> no
[01:46] <bob2> it doesn't matter
[01:47] <SoleKiller> well
[01:47] <SoleKiller> i got 64 ram
[01:47] <ishit> bob: then wat do i do
[01:47] <ishit> bob: i need k3b
[01:47] <bob2> ishit: "wat" is not a word
[01:47] <bob2> and stop going on and on at me
[01:47] <bloodnik> How does one uninstall something installed from source?
[01:47] <bob2> if your ubuntu install is broken, it's either your fault or bad hardware
[01:47] <bob2> try burning the CD again and actually checking it first
[01:47] <bob2> bloodnik: make uninstall may work
[01:48] <bob2> bloodnik: generally you install things to a specific dir (e.g. /usr/local/blah/) for this reason
[01:48] <aftertaf> anyone help with chroot problem?
[01:48] <SoleKiller> the install is ok
[01:48] <SoleKiller> the disk is fine
[01:48] <ishit> bob: looks like i gotta dump ubuntu
[01:48] <concept10> bob2: this girl told me she plays football
[01:48] <aftertaf> error:    sudo: unable to lookup dell-laptop via gethostbyname()
[01:48] <bob2> ishit: oh well, good luck with whatever else
[01:48] <bloodnik> I did make install. Guess I should have thought of make uninstall :p
[01:48] <reiki> my wireless mouse is dying... batteries... dang it.... shutting down for work anyways, so see y'all later
[01:48] <bloodnik> kthxbai
[01:48] <bob2> aftertaf: fix /etc/hosts
[01:48] <ishit> bob: cause wat cus b the prob
[01:49] <bob2> ishit: "cus" is not a word either
[01:49] <Smoking_n00b> lol
[01:49] <bob2> ishit: good luck with whatever OS you try in the future
[01:49] <aftertaf> on main system or debootstapped system?
[01:49] <bob2> aftertaf: it has to resolve on both
[01:49] <aftertaf> hehe ok.
[01:49] <Somada142> bob2
[01:49] <ishit> bob: but i like ubuntu. Its just if i can get things right
[01:49] <Lipsanteri> and another question: Partition magic is asking "would create a swap partition?" what does that mean and shoul i do it?
[01:49] <Somada142> don't be so picky
[01:49] <bob2> starting lines with my nick and no other text is shockingly annoying
[01:50] <bob2> Lipsanteri: you mean the installer?
[01:50] <Somada142> sorry i pressed Enter by mistake
[01:50] <Lipsanteri> "create linux swap partition?"
[01:50] <ishit> bob2: hey is there a way out of this
[01:50] <bob2> after a thousand mispellings of "because", your eyes will bleed too
[01:50] <bob2> ishit: probably
[01:50] <infinito> i can't delete a file using rm, any idea?
[01:50] <bob2> ishit: try asking on the user list
[01:50] <bob2> ishit: define "can;t"
[01:50] <bob2> infinito: ^
[01:50] <bob2> ie show us the error
[01:50] <infinito> the fiel is screwd by a fs problem...
[01:50] <ompaul> SoleKiller, perhaps try the server install but I doubt if there is a wm that would treat that hardware right - some disto that keeps track of an old kernel might work, but don't ask me to name one, I don't track any of them
[01:51] <bob2> infinito: probably nothing you can do then
[01:51] <ishit> bob2: or should i try breezy
[01:51] <bob2> 21:50:45           bob2 | ishit: try asking on the user list
[01:51] <SoleKiller> because because because the wizard of ozz
[01:51] <infinito> bob2: but it's the laptop-mode binary... i need to removeit to install again...
[01:51] <ishit> bob2: how
[01:51] <bob2> and making threats of leaving ubuntu is stupid
[01:51] <bob2> no one cares what you use
[01:51] <SoleKiller> Because!!!!
[01:52] <bob2> infinito: if your disk is screwed, how will that help?
[01:52] <infinito> no, just that file after a fsck.ext3
[01:52] <SoleKiller> the question is why will it help
[01:52] <ishit> bob2: i tried kubuntu and had the same probs
[01:52] <ompaul> SoleKiller, one of the problems that you might face is if choose to do that is if the kernel gets 'unsupported'
[01:52] <SoleKiller> and the answer is
[01:52] <bob2> ishit: then ask on the list already
[01:52] <SoleKiller> because!
[01:52] <vu> Anybody running Ubuntu under Vmware 5.5?
[01:52] <ompaul> SoleKiller, take the singing to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:53] <SoleKiller> lol
[01:53] <Lipsanteri> This thing is saying "A linux swap partition is recommended for a linux installation. you will get better performance blaablaablaa... Would you like to create a swap partition now?" Yes or no? :)
[01:53] <ishit> bob2: wat list
[01:53] <ompaul> Lipsanteri, the answer is yes
[01:53] <aftertaf> Lipsanteri:  yes
[01:53] <holycow> http://www.abarbaccia.com/  <-- oh thats nice
[01:53] <ishit> bob: k bye
[01:53] <ompaul> Lipsanteri, the size is around twice the amount of ram you have up to about 2G (if you ever need to use that much you are in trouble :))
[01:54] <pl_ice> hi
[01:54] <Lipsanteri> ok :)
[01:54] <Lipsanteri> ok, i'm a beginner with these things so try to understand :D
[01:54] <aftertaf> shame....
[01:55] <johnnybezak> alright guys wish me luck, i'm going to reboot into breezy
[01:55] <aftertaf> Lipsanteri:  we all start somewhere...don't worry
[01:55] <aftertaf> johnnybezak:  good luck....
[01:55] <rambo3> sudo rebooot
[01:55] <onkarshinde> johnnybezak: Best luck
[01:55] <alpinemike> wow
[01:55] <alpinemike> where are we all from?
[01:55] <Sly-College> Ukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:55] <Smoking_n00b> in repositories, what is the difference between binary and source
[01:56] <rambo3> just fixed my afterstepbuntu
[01:56] <pl_ice> anyone knows when i use cfdisk, which partition is for fat 32 , so that when i format xp will see it? i tried fat32 LBA(c1) xp didn't see
[01:56] <Smoking_n00b> which should i select?
[01:56] <hhurtta> Smoking_n00b: binary
[01:56] <Smoking_n00b> hhurtta: thanks
[01:56] <hhurtta> source installs source packages for you to compile
[01:56] <Whistler> hello
[01:57] <Smoking_n00b> hhurtta: so binaries are already compiled?
[01:57] <hhurtta> yes
[01:57] <Smoking_n00b> hhurtta, thanks
[01:57] <hhurtta> np
[01:57] <CaiN_SA> thats why they are binaries :/
[01:57] <infinito> any idea if howto change permissions to this file:
[01:57] <infinito> ?-wsr-x-wx<PHONE_NUMBER>200<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER> 1970-01-01 01:00 laptop-mode
[01:58] <hhurtta> CaiN_SA: concept of binary is not clear to everyone
[01:58] <thenuke> infinito: with chmod?
[01:58] <aftertaf> infinito:  chmod.
[01:58] <Somada142> i have a rather meaningless question : can you all do the stuff in ubuntu as well as you did in Windows?
[01:58] <infinito> aftertaf, thenuke: i've got "operation not permited" and i'm root
[01:58] <aftertaf> Somada142:  better
[01:59] <Somada142> really?
[01:59] <thenuke> infinito: if you have problems chmodding that file or something, please then ask about it and not about how to change permissions generally ;)
[01:59] <fobia> hey anyone help i got this error: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:59] <aftertaf> whatis laptop-mode and where
[01:59] <aftertaf> fobia:  breezy or hoary, your ubuntu version?
[01:59] <fluffybunny_> i have an error message on shut down: Fail: Deactivating swap....  is this bad and if so, how can i fix it?
[01:59] <fluffybunny_> aside: is there a website detailing how breezy is improved vs hoary?
[01:59] <dade`> know bug with xorg and keyboard on breezy ?
[01:59] <henrym> Somada142, better for me too, except games, but I didn't really play games before anyway
[01:59] <infinito> thenuke, aftertaf : im sorry. that file got screwed after fsck.ext3, i need to reinstall this binary, but ccan't get rid of the bad one
[01:59] <dade`> it's about 4 days it does not work
[01:59] <Slike> Somada142: just give it a try and you'll see :-) I don't miss a thing
[01:59] <samu2> id like to see a site with changes too
[01:59] <fobia> aftertaf: hoary
[02:00] <Somada142> yap that's a problem for me too
[02:00] <deFrysk> Somada142, exept for being ripped of you can do about the same
[02:00] <samu2> if you play the latest crappy pc games you might not be too happy with linux
[02:00] <fobia> aftertaf: wat do i do
[02:01] <aftertaf> fobia:  dont know.....
[02:01] <Smoking_n00b> < i still keep a win XP install around for my games> :)
[02:01] <fobia> i tried to open k3b after intallation n got this error-   aftertaf:
[02:01] <Somada142> Oh question...after i insert my usb flash disk and then unmount it the led keeps going on and off...what should i do?
[02:01] <onkarshinde> Where can I learn the .deb packaging?
[02:02] <codenut> Hi gang, still cannot get PPP set up on that machine.
[02:02] <fobia> anyone can help???
[02:02] <rambo3> no
[02:02] <onkarshinde> fobia: State the question
[02:03] <pl_ice> hey, what partition shall i choose under cfdisk for fat32, so windows can see it?
[02:03] <Whistler> !upgrade2breezy
[02:03] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:03] <fobia> onkarshinde: i tried to open k3b after intallation n got this error-  k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:03] <johnnybezak> well guys i survived my breezy install
[02:03] <fobia> onkarshinde: can u help plz
[02:04] <Somada142> have there been any reports of problems with breezy up till now?
[02:04] <onkarshinde> fobia: Where did you install k3b from?
[02:04] <fobia> onkarshinde: synaptic
[02:04] <johnnybezak> Somada142: haha of course its a beta version of an operating system :)
[02:04] <Wermut> How can I disable the ALT- Key behaviour in GNOME? Pressing the ALT-Key and highlighting text in OpenOffice moves the active window instead of highlighting the text.
[02:04] <Smoking_n00b> Thanks again for everyones help ! :) I'm out.
[02:04] <Somada142> like what should i upgrade or not?
[02:05] <fobia> onkarshinde: im havin lots of problems with ubuntu
[02:05] <onkarshinde> fobia: Its weird. Synaptic should install all the dependencies. Still check that you have package libqt3c102-mt installed
[02:06] <deFrysk> fobia added funny repos ?
[02:06] <fobia> onkarshinde: its there
[02:06] <fobia> onkarshinde: i hav to instal ubuntu four or five times for it to instal
[02:07] <ompaul> !tell SoleKiller about root
[02:07] <fobia> ompaul the rascal
[02:08] <fobia> onkarshinde: is it possible that my motherboard is uncompatible
[02:08] <onkarshinde> fobia: I have no idea about it. Motherboard incompatibility won't cause problem with shared libraries.
[02:10] <fobia> onkarshinde: because i hav never managed to instal ubuntu smoothly
[02:10] <johnnybezak> hey guys, I'm getting a problem with the f-spot package, it worked when I first installed it now its not working. how can i do a fresh install of it and it's dependancies?
[02:10] <onkarshinde> johnnybezak: Mark for reinstallation from Synaptic
[02:10] <fobia> onkarshinde: n my system is brand new
[02:11] <johnnybezak> onkarshinde: how do i do it from cli?
[02:11] <onkarshinde> fobia: Sorry. But I don't think that should cause problem. Do you have problems with other distros as well?
[02:12] <onkarshinde> johnnybezak: sudo apt-get --remove purge packagename will remove package along with its configuration.
[02:12] <onkarshinde> johnnybezak: Then you can reinstall it.
[02:12] <cr4sh> hey guyz can anyone help me setup proftpd
[02:13] <fobia> onkarshinde: ya wit kubuntu also, but fdora worked fine
[02:14] <fobia> onkarshinde: r u indian
[02:15] <prolsd> ompaul, i have a FX5600. Can you help me with configuring the drivers for it? thank you.
[02:15] <ompaul> !tell prolsd about nvidia
[02:15] <onkarshinde> fobia: Yes. I am. How did you know that?
[02:16] <fobia> onkarshinde: i am indian too
[02:17] <onkarshinde> fobia: Where are you from?
[02:17] <fobia> onkarshinde: pondicherry, south india
[02:17] <fobia> onkarshinde: hey help me out man
[02:18] <onkarshinde> fobia: I really don't have any idea. Are you trying breezy? You may want to try Hoary just because it is stable.
[02:19] <fobia> onkarshinde: i am on hoary
[02:19] <onkarshinde> fobia: Can you tell me your system configuration?
[02:21] <fobia> onkarshinde: p4 2.4gh - asrock mboard - 380mb of ram - 40 gb hdd
[02:22] <fobia> onkarshinde: ubuntu never instals properly
[02:23] <onkarshinde> fobia: Since it is p4 i don't see any reason for the problem. I really don't have any idea what is causing this.
[02:23] <fobia> fedora worked fine
[02:24] <fobia> onkarshinde: do u think breezy might work
[02:26] <fobia> onkarshinde: i mean it works. but skype, k3b n som others dont work doesnt
[02:26] <onkarshinde> fobia: No idea. I haven't tried it yet myself.
[02:26] <praise_> hello, could some one help me with installing nvidia driver
[02:26] <dazvid> !tell praise_ about nvidia
[02:26] <fobia> onkarshinde: they instal smoothly but dont open
[02:26] <dazvid> follow that praise_ it worked for me fine
[02:27] <fobia> onkarshinde: how do i get al the useful libraried
[02:27] <praise_> i get an error with being unable to load nvidia.ko
[02:29] <onkarshinde> fobia: skype, k3b use qt for interface. So it seems that the some library related to qt is missing.
[02:30] <fobia> onkarshinde: ok, so wat do i do
[02:32] <fobia> onkarshinde: ya its the interface which is not workin
[02:32] <onkarshinde> fobia: try this command 'sudo apt-get -f update' and tell me what it says.
[02:33] <fluffybunny_> how do I add applications to the gnome menu?
[02:33] <fobia> onkarshinde: i did that n tried to open k3b, but its the same
[02:34] <peterretief> if I set up a bridged ath0/eth0 network as br0, do i assign br0 as the dhcpd port?
[02:34] <onkarshinde> fluffybunny_: You need to install a package named smeg for meny editing.
[02:35] <onkarshinde> fobia: What was output of command?
[02:35] <fluffybunny_> onkarshinde: thanks
[02:35] <fobia> onkarshinde: it did an update
[02:36] <ThreeDayMonk> Is there a command-line way to open a file with its default handler?  (I.e. as if it were double clicked in Nautilus.)
[02:37] <fobia> onkarshinde: k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared obj ect file: No such file or directory
[02:37] <mjr> ThreeDayMonk, gnome-open seems to do something like that
[02:37] <nlogax> 6c6c6c
[02:37] <fluffybunny_> onkarshinde: no smeg in synaptic?
[02:37] <ThreeDayMonk> mjr: perfect!  Thanks
[02:37] <nlogax> can someone remind me how much disk a stock install of Ubuntu (Hoary or Breezy) takes?  Isn't it, like 1.8 GB?
[02:37] <onkarshinde> fluffybunny_: Let me check.
[02:38] <onkarshinde> fluffybunny_: It is in universe repository. You need to enable Universe repository in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:38] <fobia> onkarshinde: wats the way out
[02:38] <airox> Hi, I'm trying to compile a program. Which things would I need to get it to compile ? Like which apt packages ?
[02:39] <dazvid> gcc
[02:39] <ThreeDayMonk> build-essential
[02:39] <fluffybunny_> onkarshinde: hmmm... i thought I had done that... let me double check (hoary repositories, right?)
[02:39] <Wermut> airox: apt-get build-essential
[02:39] <airox> Ok.
[02:39] <dazvid> oh wait
[02:39] <fobia> onkarshinde: its the interface which does not apear
[02:39] <dazvid> You mean installing .. -_-
[02:40] <ThreeDayMonk> airox: you'll also need the -dev packages for any libraries it uses
[02:40] <airox> Ok.
[02:40] <aftertaf> what do i need to copy to a chroot system to be able to use normal user & sudo i it?
[02:40] <aftertaf> !repository
[02:40] <ubotu> aftertaf: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:40] <aftertaf> !repos
[02:40] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:41] <airox> ./configure doesn't seem to work though O_o
[02:41] <airox> gijs@hpx4000:~/Desktop/gbtcr-0.86$ ./configure
[02:41] <airox> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[02:41] <fobia> onkarshinde: wat do i do
[02:41] <onkarshinde> fobia: Sorry, but I have no idea then. Just make sure once again that all the needed packages are installed.
[02:42] <fobia> onkarshinde: how??
[02:42] <onkarshinde> fobia: you can try this 'sudo apt-get check' This will check for broken dependencies
[02:42] <fobia> onkarshinde: its fine
[02:43] <aftertaf> does anyone have list of breezy repositories?
[02:43] <netjoin> wenas
[02:43] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: What do you mean? You just need to replace hoary with breezy in your sources.list.
[02:44] <fobia> onkarshinde: last time i installed k3b worked
[02:44] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:   except on the backports repos, i gather...
[02:45] <yahalom> anyone use trillian on ubuntu?
[02:45] <dazvid> GAIM is linux equivalent of trillian
[02:45] <dazvid> so not much point really
[02:45] <str8edge> yahalom: try gaie
[02:45] <str8edge> oops gaim
[02:45] <fobia> onkarshinde: i guess i gotta give up
[02:46] <yahalom> dazvid: i know gaim. just its different. like gaim. just wondered whether anyone got trillian working.
[02:46] <dazvid> Fair enough
[02:46] <fobia> onkarshinde: thnx anyways
[02:46] <Whistler> hello
[02:46] <onkarshinde> yahalom: Is trillian open source? Is there any official port available?
[02:47] <Whistler> i wanna upload ubuntu to local ftp.Should i upload iso image?
[02:47] <yahalom> onkarshinde: nope
[02:47] <selinium> hi guys, a burning issue! :) For some reason when I try to burn an iso it is saying to insert a blank cd, I have tried 2 from fresh packets. Any ideas?
[02:48] <yahalom> selinium: what burning ap?
[02:48] <thenuke> selinium: could the image be bigger than the cd-r's?
[02:48] <fobia> onkarshinde: and if i get breezy then i have to replace hoary hedghog by breexy badger in sources.list???
[02:49] <Whistler> i wanna upload ubuntu to local ftp.Should i upload iso image?
[02:49] <lesshaste> how do you list all installed packages by size
[02:49] <onkarshinde> fobia: Yes. Replace hoary by breezy
[02:49] <selinium> I am trying to burn Breezy Live. The discs are 7--mb and the breezy iso is 650. I am using right-click/write to disc
[02:49] <yahalom> Whistler: what are ur options? iso or what?
[02:50] <Whistler> nether mind i figured it out
[02:50] <yahalom> selinium: sudo apt-get install k3b and try it, see if u get the same issue
[02:50] <selinium> yahalom: Will do but i didn't used to get this faliure
[02:50] <Whistler> how do i make an iso image of a ubuntu cd?
[02:51] <claviceps> hey
[02:51] <yahalom> Whistler: just download the iso image from ubuntulinux.org and upload that
[02:52] <netjoin> any spanish chanel?
[02:52] <yahalom> selinium: if it worked it will work again, u running breezy?
[02:52] <Whistler> yahalom cant i make iso of a cd? It would be a lot faster
[02:52] <selinium> yahalom: nope hoary
[02:53] <yahalom> Whistler: yeah i know with k3b u can take the iso off the cd
[02:53] <lesshaste> how do you list all installed packages by size?
[02:53] <Whistler> yahalom can i use gnome-baker for that?
[02:53] <Whistler> cause i cant find how to do it?
[02:53] <selinium> yahalom: oh blast, I have been trying to keep my machine KDE free! :)
[02:53] <yahalom> Whistler: u probably can. not sure. look for the option to extract the image from the cd.
[02:54] <yahalom> selinium: yeah i know how u feel. me too.
[02:54] <yahalom> selinium: play around with gnome-baker maybe it has that option too
[02:54] <slim_ff> I am new to Ubuntu and I am already having prblems
[02:54] <yahalom> selinium: i'm at work on a windows box, so i cant check myself
[02:55] <yahalom> selinium: all that kde plastic sticks in ur mind though, so i remember k3b
[02:55] <selinium> :)
[02:55] <onkarshinde> Whistler: You should be able to gnome-baker to make iso of a cd
[02:55] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: What problems?
[02:56] <johnnybezak> hey guys when I launch f-spot i get errors about glib sharp and what I think is wierd there is some stuff about f-spot.exe there
[02:56] <Whistler> onkarshinde i cant find an option in gnome baker
[02:56] <Whistler> =
[02:56] <Whistler> =[
[02:56] <slim_ff> after installing I login in and it put me at a command propt, but I ccan not get it to load Ubuntu
[02:56] <yahalom> johnnybezak: query me ur full error
[02:56] <johnnybezak> yahalom is that /query?
[02:56] <__filip_> how can i run an dc hub in ubuntu?
[02:56] <onkarshinde> Whistler: See if there is something like Copy a CD
[02:56] <Whistler> oh
[02:57] <lesshaste>  I just want the equivalent of
[02:57] <lesshaste> rpm -qa --queryformat '%{name}-%{version}-%{release} %{size}\n' | sort -nr +1
[02:57] <netjoin> is the root password the same the first user installer?
[02:57] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: Are you sure you did a complete install? And after reboot did  you wait for all the package configuration? Or did you yourself shutdown the system in between?
[02:57] <yahalom> netjoin: sudo root yes
[02:57] <Whistler> onkarshinde thx i found it
[02:58] <slim_ff> I let it shut down the system
[02:58] <netjoin> ok thx
[02:58] <yahalom> johnnybezak: yes
[02:58] <onkarshinde> netjoin: Actually there is no root account by default
[02:58] <Madeye> hey
[02:58] <netjoin> aha
[02:58] <Madeye> guys, is there anyway to install safari on ubuntu ?
[02:59] <onkarshinde> netjoin: But you can do some system administration tasks by using the first user you created. It will ask for the password of the same account.
[02:59] <onkarshinde> Madeye: Is Safari opensource? I suppose not.
[02:59] <johnnybezak> yahalom: what do you reckon
[02:59] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  any of the non official repos that are quoted by ubotu exist in breezy?
[02:59] <netjoin> ok thx very m
[02:59] <aftertaf> not just the .archive. ones?
[02:59] <NET||abuse> I wonder could someone help me with updating the kernel source package
[03:00] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: Can you give an example?
[03:00] <cristiano> oi bom dia
[03:00] <yahalom> johnnybezak: what on earth man? where did u get that?
[03:00] <cristiano> alguem ai fala portugues
[03:00] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: And then what happen after shutdown or reboot? I mean the first reboot whicle installation.
[03:00] <cristiano> i'm braziliam
[03:00] <NET||abuse> i have the latest kernel, but synaptic doesn't want to download the latest source, it's still sitting there with 2.4.27
[03:00] <johnnybezak> yahalom: haha that printed when i tried to open f-spot in the terminal, wierd hey?
[03:00] <aftertaf> http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/
[03:00] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  ^^^
[03:01] <slim_ff> onkarshinde: Ok, now its saying this: Ubuntu come with absolutely no warrenty, to the extent permitted by application law. The a comman prompt
[03:01] <yahalom> johnnybezak: yes. where did u download it from?
[03:01] <cristiano> gosto no ubuntu muito mais rodando o kde
[03:01] <johnnybezak> yahalom: the ubuntu repo's
[03:01] <aftertaf> NET||abuse:  what distro are you on?
[03:01] <osfameron> !pt
[03:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:01] <NET||abuse> this one, hoary hedgehog
[03:01] <aftertaf> and you have 2.4 kernel? not possible
[03:02] <aftertaf> look for linux-source NET||abuse
[03:02] <NET||abuse> no, my kernel is 2.6.10-5-386 but the kernel source package in synaptic wont upgrade past 2.4.27
[03:02] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: Try this command 'sudo dpkg --reconfigure ubuntu-desktop'
[03:02] <yahalom> johnnybezak: umm. me not on ubuntu now. try searching apt-cache search or whateve for the f-spot dev files if any.
[03:02] <occy> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.8.2-10.1_all.deb:  unable to stat `./etc/X11/xkb/symbols' (which I was about to install): Input/output error
[03:02] <aftertaf> package now called linux-source NET||abuse
[03:02] <NET||abuse> oh, not called kernel source anymore?
[03:02] <aftertaf> nope, not in ubuntu
[03:02] <aftertaf> afaik
[03:04] <johnnybezak> yahalom: i dunno what's going on haha
[03:04] <occy> anyone seen that error before?
[03:04] <yahalom> johnnybezak: sudo synaptic and search for f-spot see if u find any dev
[03:05] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: About the repos you mentioned I suppose it is not related to Ubuntu at all. It is related to KUbuntu.
[03:06] <sipior> hopefully not a dumb question: i'm trying to get ssh-askpass to work with keychain on Breezy Badger, and it refuses to accept my passphrase. however, invoking keychain ans ssh-askpass work fine after gnome starts up. anyone else have this difficulty?
[03:06] <johnnybezak> yahalom: nothing there
[03:06] <linuxsbartley> Does anyone have some time to work with me on the difference between 5.04 and 5.10 when installing Server w/ xdm?
[03:06] <aftertaf> ubuntu with KDE, yes
[03:07] <yahalom> johnnybezak: ok try this. apt-get remove f-spot, and then look for it in google and download it from the site and see if u still get probs
[03:07] <occy> apt-get -f install didn't fix it. :(
[03:07] <yahalom> johnnybezak: ok?
[03:08] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: So you wont use that repos anyway.
[03:08] <occy> http://pastebin.com/362462
[03:08] <occy> could someone take a look at that?
[03:08] <johnnybezak> yahalom: you mean compile it from source?
[03:09] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  i use KDE
[03:10] <netjoin> bye
[03:10] <netjoin> :)
[03:10] <Mutant> can someone help me out? When I print to a PDF file, the owner is set to "nobody" and the group is set to "nogroup"... and so I have to "chmod 0777" the file before I can open it... and I was wondering if there was any way that I can print to the PDF and not have to chmod it...
[03:10] <occy> Is Hoary broken at the moment?
[03:10] <occy> don't see anything in the topic about it.
[03:10] <occy> http://pastebin.com/362462  <-- I'm getting this
[03:11] <slim_ff> onkarshinde: keeps coming up bad command
[03:11] <johnnybezak> woops i just deleted all my home folder haha thank f*ck i've got it backed up
[03:12] <Chameleon22> anyone knows of a nice ogg to mp3 converter, also mov to mp3 converter?
[03:12] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: Rioght. But I suppose you are using KDE on Ubuntu. So you won't need that repos.
[03:13] <aftertaf> i dunno..... onkarshinde
[03:13] <aftertaf> :/
[03:14] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: What command did you try?
[03:14] <aftertaf> occy:  not exactly sexy as an error goes .....
[03:15] <aftertaf> occy:  tried apt-get install -f ?
[03:15] <occy> aftertaf, yessir I did
[03:15] <slim_ff> onkarshinde: sudo dpkg --reconfigure ubuntu-desktop
[03:15] <occy> aftertaf, same thing.
[03:15] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: Did it ask for a password?
[03:15] <aftertaf> yessir tt's enough!!!!!
[03:15] <slim_ff> no
[03:15] <aftertaf> :D
[03:15] <occy> aftertaf, the apt-get -f install did some stuff and then it didn't return an error.
[03:16] <linuxsbartley> I am trying to do a server install of 5.10 and then use xdm & xfce.  On 5.04 this was as simple as installing server, followed by x-window-system-core, xterm and synaptic.  Then using Universe, installing xdm and xfce4 then rebooting.  The system would come back up w/ xdm & xfce.  On 5.10, I followed the exact same process.  The system tries to go to the xdm gui but fails and drops me to Alt-F8 w/ a message of "Starting X display man
[03:16] <linuxsbartley> ager".
[03:16] <occy> aftertaf, heh
[03:16] <aftertaf> hehe
[03:16] <occy> well, My feeling is, if someone is kind enough to respond to help, the least I can do is be polite.
[03:16] <occy> :)
[03:16] <aftertaf> no sirree i cant answer that one ;)
[03:16] <Bombu> I've had an order placed for a while, I tried to log in to shipit to check on it and I got the message: "You have no shipped orders on record at this time. Please check back again soon." Does this mean that my order was deleted or that it was sent?
[03:16] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: Your installation is not complete? Did it even ask for a username password at start?
[03:16] <occy> hmm
[03:16] <occy> yeah
[03:16] <occy> this is a suck.  :(
[03:17] <slim_ff> onkarshinde: yes it does and i enter it and it takes me to a commcand prompt
[03:18] <onkarshinde> slim_ff: Can you once try the command without sudo word
[03:18] <Bombu> can someone help me?
[03:18] <Naked31> about what ?
[03:18] <Bombu> I've had an order placed for a while, I tried to log in to shipit to check on it and I got the message: "You have no shipped orders on record at this time. Please check back again soon." Does this mean that my order was deleted or that it was sent?
[03:19] <Naked31> ?
[03:19] <Naked31> I don't understand your question?
[03:20] <osfameron> the CDs do take rather a long time to arrive
[03:20] <Bombu> yeah, but it never gave me that message before. does that mean that they are being sent?
[03:21] <lesshaste>  I have just received an email in thunderbird and when I reply the text is some super weird foreign font. How do I fix that?
[03:21] <aftertaf> use screen :D
[03:22] <aftertaf> for screen is good
[03:22] <aftertaf> reboujou spiral_ ;)
[03:22] <spiral> aftertaf: re
[03:23] <spiral> hi everybody
[03:23] <spiral> could anyone tell me how to have usplash working with a home-made kernel.org kernel in breezy ?
[03:24] <Madeye> guys, what do you recommend to setup wine, winetools or winesetup ?
[03:29] <occy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348442#post348442
[03:29] <mcrandello> did merillat change addresses?
[03:31] <mcrandello> because apt-get update is throwing a royal hissyfit when it tries to get the packges.gz file :(
[03:31] <Whistler> how do i add ftp.litnet.lt/pub/ubuntu to my sources list?
[03:32] <Whistler> i know this mirror is safe
[03:32] <Whistler> i just dont know the syntax
[03:32] <Whistler> of sources.list
[03:32] <Whistler> anybody can help?
[03:32] <mcrandello> whistler try "deb http://foo.whatever.com main" or something like that
[03:33] <ds[de] > just look at your existing sources.list and add your entry accordingly
[03:33] <Puff-n-Stuff> morning all..quicky question..I have these extra codecs for mplayer...where should they be placed so mplayer can see them?
[03:33] <mcrandello> I'm having problems getting the exact syntax on the url right myself
[03:33] <Whistler> mcrandello :)
[03:33] <mcrandello> that worked?
[03:33] <zorba64> Puff-n-Stuff, /usr/lib/win32
[03:33] <G|Patrick> hi
[03:33] <Puff-n-Stuff> zorba64, thanks..
[03:34] <G|Patrick> which command do i need to check wihch graphicdriver is in use?
[03:34] <G|Patrick> ubuntu breezy 4.10p1
[03:34] <mcrandello> glxinfo
[03:34] <mcrandello> should show up the first line after that Patrick
[03:35] <G|Patrick> weired
[03:35] <G|Patrick> pastbin for details, k?
[03:35] <spiral> noone about usplash ?
[03:35] <zorba64> Whistler, deb ftp.litnet.lt/pub/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[03:36] <G|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2151
[03:36] <G|Patrick> there is something wrong i guess since i have ati
[03:36] <spiral> does anyone know how I can install j2sdk 1.5 in breezy via apt ?
[03:36] <G|Patrick> which command is needer to reconfigure the xserver
[03:36] <reiki_work> installed mplayer last night and the mplayer plugin for firefox. It doesn't open wmv files in firefox and when I try it either crashes firefox completely, just plays the sound, or does nothing at all. mplayer on it's own appears to work fine. So I think just the plugin is hosed. I'm not at that machine right now, but any clues as to where to look to get it straightened out would be appreciated
[03:36] <Whistler> zorba64 i get E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[03:36] <Whistler> when i try to update
[03:37] <mcrandello> G|Patrick, I think you need to rename some of the GL files before instaling the ATI drivers
[03:37] <G|Patrick> the driver should be installed
[03:37] <G|Patrick> i simpy upgraded to 4.10
[03:37] <G|Patrick> but xorg config and anything else has been overwritten
[03:37] <zorba64> Whistler: post your sources list to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:37] <G|Patrick> and i cant remember the command to restart xorg config
[03:37] <mcrandello> I switched to nvidia myself so I'm a little fuzzzy on the detials but bet since you upgraded it overwrote the files and you'll need to re-reinstall the drivers maybe
[03:37] <G|Patrick> sudo xorgconf?
[03:38] <mcrandello> fglrxconfig I think
[03:38] <mcrandello> that's if you want ATI's proprietary drivers
[03:38] <G|Patrick> have u looked into my pastebin entry
[03:38] <Whistler> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2152
[03:38] <G|Patrick> there is sgi listed as graphicadatpet
[03:38] <G|Patrick> there is sgi listed as graphicadapter
[03:38] <G|Patrick> so i have to modify X first to use the correct driver
[03:38] <G|Patrick> k?
[03:39] <G|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2151 <--- look
[03:39] <mcrandello> right, run fglrxconfig if you installed the ATI drivers or try changing the xorg.conf manuallly to say "fglrx" for the driver
[03:39] <G|Patrick> where is the xorg.conf?
[03:40] <Whistler> G|Patrick /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:40] <notnilC> can anyone help me with ubuntu? i can't get it to access the net but i can see the rest of my network (i'm very very new to this)
[03:41] <Colibri> sera a tutti
[03:41] <Whistler> zorba64 http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2152
[03:41] <G|Patrick> in xorg conf it says that fglrx is used
[03:41] <G|Patrick> but thats obviously wrong
[03:41] <zorba64> Whistler: deb ftp://ftp.litnet.lt/pub/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[03:41] <aftertaf> !fr
[03:41] <ubotu> methinks fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:42] <mcrandello> okay then what happened is the GL.so.conf or one of the files that looks a lot like it got overwrote when you upgraded G|Patrick
[03:42] <Whistler> zorba64 thx
[03:42] <G|Patrick> mcrandello: what do u mean exactly
[03:42] <mcrandello> err GL.so.1
[03:42] <G|Patrick> i am still a noob and ahve no skills to think on the next edge :(
[03:42] <zorba64> Whistler: np
[03:42] <jc-denton> i cannot find the manpage limits.conf on my ubuntu sys (breezy
[03:43] <jc-denton> on debian sarge there is a manpage for limits.conf
[03:43] <mcrandello> one of the files that ATI installs is named the same thing as one of the files that ubuntu uses. xorg looks for this file when you load the video drivers
[03:43] <G|Patrick> mcrandello: it was about an half hour installation, i dont know which files have been overwritten at all...
[03:43] <mcrandello> okay I'd reccomend reinstalling the ATI drivrs
[03:43] <jc-denton> what is also strange is mp3 support
[03:43] <G|Patrick> which command starts xorg reconfiguration
[03:43] <jc-denton> beep media player supports mp3
[03:43] <jc-denton> the gstreamer stuff does not
[03:44] <oscarh> hi, i am having problem typing swedish characters in vim :(
[03:44] <mcrandello> I don't think that's going to do it but xorgconfig
[03:44] <G|Patrick> simpy tell it plz
[03:44] <zorba64> G|Patrick: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <G|Patrick> i dont want to install it
[03:44] <mcrandello> be sure to back up your existing /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[03:44] <G|Patrick> i simply want to reconfigure it
[03:45] <mcrandello> you say you upgraded right?
[03:45] <G|Patrick> sure
[03:45] <G|Patrick> with synaptic
[03:45] <aftertaf> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:45] <aftertaf> reconfigure
[03:45] <mcrandello> dollars to donuts when you did you got a new version of xorg. when it installed its files it overwrote the opengl driver that ATI gave you with its own
[03:46] <G|Patrick> kernel framebuffer interface? yes or no?
[03:46] <brenner> 'lo.  anyone have experience with setting up a winmodem (which i think i unfortunately have)
[03:46] <oscarh> brenner, i have one working
[03:46] <oscarh> brenner, using smartlink
[03:46] <jc-denton> so where the fuck is that manpage?
[03:46] <enyc>  brenner: depends on the type.. what chipset modem EXACTLY do you have?
[03:46] <oscarh> brenner, had to patch it though
[03:46] <enyc> brenner: running "/sbin/lspci" may well mention the modem type
[03:47] <notnilC> can anyone help me with why ubuntu won't connect to the internet?
[03:47] <dbzdeath> hey i am trying to run a 32bit mplayer on amd64 ubuntu...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=334873#post334873 as in that guide but i get the error mplayer32: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory when trying to run it  can someone please help me?
[03:47] <mcrandello> notnilC, you using some kind of internet router?
[03:47] <tretre> the European Commission want to keep all telephone and internet traffic data of all 450 million Europeans. If you are concerned about this plan, please sign the petition. http://www.dataretentionisnosolution.com/
[03:47] <notnilC> yes mcrandello
[03:47] <brenner> enyc, i think it came up as unkown...i'm in xp now. but i can get the results of that scanModem shell script if you want
[03:47] <notnilC> it lets winxp through but not ubuntu
[03:47] <enyc> bren: maybe ;-)
[03:47] <enyc> bren: lspci is best, boot off ubuntu or knoppix or something and give us that information
[03:47] <mcrandello> try bringing up the router's config page in firefox in ubuntu
[03:48] <notnilC> i was able to bring that up
[03:48] <mcrandello> hrmmm
[03:48] <brenner> enyc: argh...it's 56k so i have to disconnect...
[03:48] <mcrandello> what kind of router?
[03:48] <notnilC> would there be settings in it that stop linux from gaining access?? (i had same probs with fedora)
[03:48] <mcrandello> I'm guessing there are
[03:48] <setite> !dvd
[03:48] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[03:49] <notnilC> iconnectaccess621
[03:49] <eolo> hi guys, always the same question!!!! I just installed kubuntu 5.04 and don't remember apt repository for java runtime envronment for amd 64
[03:49] <notnilC> (im aussie)
[03:49] <eolo> someone can help me?
[03:49] <enyc> dbzdeath: you may need 'ia32-libs' package
[03:49] <mcrandello> as far as ubuntu is concerned your router is the internet... is your router set to port forward 80 to your windows machine?
[03:49] <dbzdeath> enyc: i already have it...
[03:49] <notnilC> hrmmm
[03:49] <bob2> eolo: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:50] <eolo> thanks bob2
[03:50] <dbzdeath> enyc: if it helps i get this when i run ld on /usr/bin/mplayer32 ld: warning: i386 architecture of input file `/usr/bin/mplayer32' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output
[03:50] <enyc> dbzd: hrrm Im not familiar with this, sorry
[03:50] <bob2> er
[03:50] <bob2> ld is useless there
[03:50] <bob2> ldd migt be of some use
[03:50] <G|Patrick> ok
[03:51] <G|Patrick> reconfiguration done
[03:51] <G|Patrick> have i make ne checksum
[03:51] <G|Patrick> or can i restart now and check it?
[03:51] <dbzdeath> bob2: yeah it ouputs ... libstdc++.so.5 => not found
[03:51] <G|Patrick> have it to restart?
[03:51] <osfameron> Can you get gvim on ubuntu?
[03:51] <bob2> dbzdeath: there you go
[03:51] <osfameron> I tried to install gvim via synaptic but doesn't seem to have done anything much
[03:52] <dbzdeath> bob2: any idea on how to fix it?
[03:52] <bob2> seriously, if you care about binary crap, just use i386
[03:52] <mcrandello> try "startx" from the console G|Patrick
[03:52] <mcrandello> no need to reboot
[03:52] <fluffybunny_> i seem to have lost automount for my usb flash disk. also, the names displayed on the flashdisk are truncated to 8.3 format... how do I dix this
[03:52] <bob2> osfameron: of course
[03:53] <notnilC> mcrandello i can't find on the modem page where it tells me about the port forwarding
[03:53] <osfameron> bob2: ah, now it's not finding it in synaptic, grrrrr
[03:53] <bob2> it's there
[03:53] <mcrandello> what's the exact device you're pluggint eht computer into notnilC ?
[03:53] <bob2> dbzdeath: install ia32-libs
[03:53] <osfameron> any particular repository?
[03:53] <bob2> dbzdeath: if you're using breezy, you have lost
[03:54] <bob2> osfameron: universe
[03:54] <notnilC> modem router via ethernet
[03:54] <occy> bob2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348442#post348442   ( I'm getting errors when upgrading )
[03:54] <fluffybunny_> !usb
[03:54] <ubotu> fluffybunny_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:54] <occy> bob2, morning
[03:54] <fluffybunny_> !mount
[03:54] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[03:54] <dbzdeath> bob2: i already have... i'm using hoary and i only have libstdc++.so.6 and not .5
[03:54] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: can you unmount the flash drive and remount it?
[03:54] <brenner> enyc: ok, i'm gonna reboot and run lspci...can you wait 5 mins for me?
[03:54] <bob2> dbzdeath: odd
[03:54] <enyc> bren: yes, but not too much longer
[03:54] <jc-denton> so does anybody here have an idea why this manpage is not installed?
[03:54] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: I have to manually mount and unmount it, but it used to do it as soon as I plugged it in?
[03:54] <enyc> bren: you shold gfind communications device or something
[03:54] <brenner> enyc: right, brb
[03:55] <bob2> dbzdeath: guess you need to rebuild mplayer (or get a newer version from whereever you got it from)
[03:55] <dbzdeath> bob2: there is no package for 5 afaik
[03:55] <enyc> bren: most users, can "/sbin/lspci"
[03:55] <bob2> dbzdeath: there is, just not for the i386 on amd64
[03:55] <dbzdeath> bob2: yeah thats what i meant
[03:55] <osfameron> ah, it's not called "gvim" but vim-gtk or vim-perl...
[03:55] <mcrandello> notnilC:is the windows on a different partition on the same computer or is this another machine?
[03:55] <bob2> occy: disk fuckage
[03:55] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: I had the same problem with a flash drive that was formatted on a windows box and then used in Ubuntu. Is it being detected as /dev/sda1 ?
[03:55] <occy> bob2, really?
[03:55] <notnilC> different partition same computer
[03:55] <mcrandello> hrmm
[03:56] <bob2> occy: I'd very stronlyg suspect it
[03:56] <occy> bob2, I was getting some hard drive errors last night :(
[03:56] <bob2> occy: look at the output of 'dmesg'
[03:56] <jc-denton> is there a bts in ubuntu
[03:56] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: how do I check that? i mount it as "mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb" which works fine, so I think /dev/sda1 is being detected?
[03:56] <jc-denton> can i use reportbug?
[03:56] <occy> init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (2767)
[03:56] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: this was a disk last used on windows (similar problem last night with a disk used on a Mac)
[03:57] <setite> anyone have a good sources.list for amd64
[03:57] <bob2> jc-denton: bugzilla.ubuntu.com. no
[03:57] <occy> bob2, http://pastebin.com/362491
[03:57] <bob2> setite: the one that comes with it is fine
[03:58] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: that sounds right ... I had to make an entry in my /etc/fstab file to get mine to automount AND I reformatted it on the ubuntu box. So first get your needed file off the flash drive and THEN I formatted using mkdosfs /dev/sda1 so that it could also be read on windows machines
[03:58] <u-sun--> hi all, any one here have a dual boot of ubuntu on mac?
[03:58] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: can't format it - its not my disk :)
[03:58] <jc-denton> bob2: so how do i report an ubuntu related bug?
[03:58] <u-sun--> g4 powerbook?
[03:58] <mcrandello> notnilC, can you ping any outside internet sites? ("ping http://google.com" from a console)
[03:58] <u-sun--> i tried to do this ... and i hope that i would not wipe my current HD
[03:58] <notnilC> im not sure
[03:58] <jdermer> has anyone been able to get mprime running on ubuntu
[03:58] <jdermer> i get
[03:58] <notnilC> i'll give it a try
[03:59] <jdermer> ./mprime: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by ./mprime)
[03:59] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: if you JUST type    mount   i a terminal window ... what does it tell you about the file system on /dev/sda1 ?
[03:59] <thenuke> jc-denton: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/bugs
[03:59] <bob2> jc-denton: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:59] <jc-denton> lol
[03:59] <jc-denton> thx
[03:59] <bob2> u-sun--: lots of pepole do, just ask your question
[03:59] <u-sun--> aska  question?
[03:59] <jc-denton> humm
[03:59] <bob2> occy: your disk is unhappy
[03:59] <u-sun--> ok, i asked on this list
[03:59] <jc-denton> if i remove reportbug
[03:59] <jc-denton> ubuntu-standard will be removed too
[03:59] <u-sun--> how do i install ubuntu without erasing my current HD
[03:59] <jc-denton> are u sure it cannot be used?
[04:00] <occy> bob2, recommendation, contact my laptop manufactuerer and get another disk?
[04:00] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: um... there is nothing about dev/sda1 ...
[04:00] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: you MIGHT need to type    sudo mount    ... to see all entries
[04:00] <u-sun--> and to do a dual boot on G4 powerbok
[04:00] <bob2> jdermer: that version of mrprime is not for your system
[04:00] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: was already in a root terminal - no sda1 in mount
[04:00] <mcrandello> u-sun--, You'll need some kind of partition resizing program or a second hard disk
[04:00] <bob2> jc-denton: yes
[04:00] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_:  well that makes me believe it's no longer mounted if mount isn't seeing it
[04:01] <jdermer> its the only version there is i think lol
[04:01] <bob2> u-sun--: you free some space then run the ubuntu installer
[04:01] <u-sun--> okk
[04:01] <bob2> jdermer: then you can't run it, sorry
[04:01] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: hang on - just checking if amd has been disable
[04:01] <u-sun--> 3 gigs is enough?
[04:01] <bob2> occy: did you enable dma or anything like that?
[04:01] <mcrandello> u-sun--, wait you have a pppowerbook?
[04:01] <bob2> occy: or run an odd kernel?
[04:01] <u-sun--> bob2, have you tried it on external HD?
[04:01] <u-sun--> with firewire
[04:01] <u-sun--> i will use my external HD
[04:01] <bob2> u-sun--: can openfirmware boot firewire disks?
[04:01] <occy> bob2, well... I did just do this recently:   http://occy.net/node/142
[04:02] <jdermer> bob2, why ?
[04:02] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: try mounting it again using mount -t vfat uid=<yourusername> /dev/sda1 /media/usb
[04:02] <jdermer> bob2, what does it mean
[04:02] <u-sun--> bob2, yes it can
[04:02] <reiki_work> I think that syntax is correct... someone look please
[04:02] <occy> bob2, crimsun helped walk me through removing my kernel stuff and re-installing.
[04:02] <mcrandello> heh I never knew there was a ppc port
[04:02] <bob2> jdermer: it means it was compiled for a much newer system than hoary
[04:03] <bob2> jdermer: and hoary came out only 5 months ago, so whoever did it was an idiot
[04:03] <occy> bob2, I was trying to clean out all the stuff from when I had followed this to get my wireless card into monitor mode:  http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414
[04:03] <mcrandello> also if you have a cd/dvd burner I alwaus reccomend making a backup of any data you mind losing before installing anything
[04:03] <bob2> occy: reinstalling won't cause issues
[04:03] <bob2> er, the kernel
[04:04] <occy> bob2, that's an exact paper trail of all I've done.
[04:04] <mcrandello> so does anyone have the proper address to plug in to make merillat work with hoary?mine keeps saying it can't find the packages.gz
[04:04] <occy> everything was working fine before that.
[04:04] <occy> :/
[04:04] <occy> bah
[04:04] <occy> why I mess with things when they are working
[04:04] <bob2> mcrandello: that's because he doesn't have a hoary repository at all
[04:05] <mcrandello> oh :(
[04:05] <reiki_work> occy: cause you're adventurous and Breezy will be out soon so you can wipe it all out and start over fresh! :)
[04:05] <bob2> occy: perhaps you had random memory corruption and a reboot will fix it
[04:05] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: aside from a missing comma, that worked, and now I can see my long file names nicely :)
[04:05] <occy> bob2, hmmm   I can try that... :/  I'm thinking I might still have some of the ipw2200 (updated) drivers in there.
[04:05] <dabaR> my printer is not being autodetected any more, it used to be. Any quick hints?
[04:05] <occy> reiki_work, heh
[04:06] <bob2> it's technically possible for a buggy driver to cause that error
[04:06] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: ok... cool... did you check your fstab file to see if there's an entry to automount that?
[04:06] <bob2> but in practice very unlikely, I'd think
[04:06] <occy> bob2, I'm sure something is wacky.  The only thing I can think of is to try and back-up and re-install.
[04:06] <occy> I've got a fairly recent backup.
[04:06] <mcrandello> is there anything equivalent that weill let me get the mplayer codecs and all that other junk?
[04:06] <fluffybunny_> \me blushes... uhm, reiki_work, how do I do that?
[04:06] <occy> (from a week ago)
[04:06] <occy> of my main files at least
[04:07] <bob2> mcrandello: which of those aren't in multiverse?
[04:07] <bob2> obviously aside from w32codecs
[04:07] <occy> bob2, as always, thanks for your help bud.
[04:07] <bob2> occy: just areboot might be enough
[04:07] <bob2> np
[04:07] <occy> bbiab
[04:08] <mcrandello> well, that's what I was most concerned with. I seem to remember getting a whole bunch of stuff with mp3 support enabled and I thought it was from there
[04:08] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: is ok - i got fstab open in gedit
[04:08] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_:  I believe it's  /etc/fstab  should be a line telling it to mount  vfat  /dev/dsa1 as /media/usb  noauto,user (no space between "noauto" and "user"  0  0  ... PLEASE check this against your current file as I may not quite have it all in here... I'm not at my Ubuntu box.
[04:09] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: look at the way that file is and I'm sure you can get this right
[04:11] <reiki_work> I didn't get an answer on this the other night... maybe someone here can help... is there a way to reread fstab after you've made changes? I ended up rebooting and don't know if that's necessary or not
[04:12] <mcrandello> there's the source command built into bash but it might not work with fstab and you'd need to be logged in as root anyway reiki_work
[04:12] <mdke> hi all
[04:12] <xTina> reiki_work: depends on the type of changes. if you've just added partitions to be mounted, mount -a might help
[04:12] <mcrandello> or what xTina said ;)
[04:12] <mdke> what is ~/.local/share/applications all about? can i remove it?
[04:13] <xTina> mdke: why would you want to?
[04:13] <Tomcat_> Hi xTina ;)
[04:13] <xTina> Tomcat_: hey :)
[04:13] <reiki_work> xTina: I just added a mount for usb flash drives... and rebooted to get it working
[04:13] <reiki_work> so mount -a will check fstab to see what to do?
[04:14] <mcrandello> yes
[04:14] <mdke> xTina, well one of the entries has been annoying me for a while, and I just wondered what the point of the directory as a whole is
[04:14] <reiki_work> cool
[04:14] <xTina> reiki_work: mount -a will mount everything that's declared in there
[04:14] <reiki_work> xTina: perfect... thanks
[04:14] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: how's it coming?
[04:15] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: some gentoo guy sitting next to me told me not to mess with my fstab... he said that won't provide automounting?
[04:15] <Tomcat_> fluffybunny_: Automounting is done somewhere else, right.
[04:15] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: he's wrong...  I just did this night before last
[04:16] <ambrose_> wanna chat?
[04:16] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: and mine works
[04:16] <tmulle> hi
[04:16] <tmulle> anyone runny hoary or breezy on a dual athlon 1800+ MP with the s2460 chipset?
[04:16] <fluffybunny_> Tomcat_: reiki_work: wrong, right? who's right? essentially, what I want to be able to do is plug in a usb drive and have a window pop up with the files, ala WinXP style
[04:16] <tmulle> running
[04:17] <Tomcat_> fluffybunny_: That should work out of the box in Ubuntu... if not you might have broken it. :) But it certainly doesn't work using fstab.
[04:17] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: what I'm telling you to do is what *I* was instructed to do here on this channel for all to see and believe me it works now. And before it was doing exactly what happened to you... mount once, then problems
[04:17] <dazvid> wine is giving me this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2154 , where is that reg key stored?
[04:18] <sanketmedhi> ubotu, gimp
[04:18] <ubotu> from memory, gimp is at http://www.gimp.org
[04:18] <fluffybunny_> Tomcat_: i've broken a lot of things... :( it did used to work... i messed around with sysvconfig and changed some stuff, now I have HAL! errors and acpi errors on login , plus this thing
[04:18] <Tomcat_> fluffybunny_: You can always try what others are saying... nothing against trying. :o
[04:18] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: mine didn't work "out of the box" either
[04:18] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: thanks, will try it now - will I have to reboot first?\
[04:18] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_:  try just running mount -a
[04:18] <mdke> if hal isn't working that is likely to be the cause of your problems fluffybunny_
[04:18] <reiki_work> errr..
[04:18] <reiki_work> typing mount -a
[04:19] <Tomcat_> dazvid: ~/.wine/*.reg
[04:19] <tmulle> my machine locks up during install when it tries to run HAL
[04:19] <dazvid> Tomcat_: there are 3 .reg files, none of them have the HKEY_CURRENT setting.. ;S
[04:19] <fluffybunny_> mdke: what is hal and how can I fix it?
[04:20] <reiki_work> Tomcat_: seriously... am I giving her bad info? It was what I was told to do and it worked. I don't want to be giving people bad information and I'm kinda new myself so please if I'm screwing this up ... I am not offended to be told so
[04:20] <mdke> fluffybunny_, i don't know much about it i'm afraid. I believe hal controls how your system reacts to new devices that are added to your system
[04:20] <notnilC> help for a noob please .. i have finally somehow got something outta this ubuntu .. i can access the internet with xchat .. but nothing else
[04:20] <setite> !dma
[04:20] <dave______> hi... question... my system beeps on startup, just before the GUI kicks in... how do i get rid of this?
[04:21] <Tomcat_> dazvid: Make a backup of the file you are changing, then change any one of them... omit the CURRENT_CONFIG.
[04:21] <mdke> fluffybunny_, but i can't give you any concrete help I'm afraid
[04:21] <notnilC> scrap that request for help ...
[04:21] <notnilC> there seems to be only certain things i can't access on the net with firefox
[04:22] <notnilC> anyone got ideas on why that it?
[04:22] <notnilC> is?
[04:22] <reiki_work> notnilC: might help if you define "certain things" you can't access
[04:22] <xbaez> hi i'm new in ubuntu and i want to upgrade my hoary installation to breezy
[04:22] <notnilC> most websites
[04:22] <osfameron> heh
[04:23] <sipior> notnilC: maybe you have ecn turned on?
[04:23] <notnilC> ecn?
[04:23] <osfameron> notnilC: give 1 url, and exactly what happens when you try?
[04:23] <xbaez> i need to change the sources.list  and put breezy right ?
[04:23] <dazvid> Tomcat_: again, the "CURRENT_CONFIG" isn't in any of the *.reg
[04:23] <brenner> enyc: still there? sorry it took so long, i need to get more RAM
[04:23] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: you all set? I have to get some quotes done. :) (I'm at work)
[04:23] <sipior> notnilC: what is in the file /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp
[04:23] <notnilC> i type www.hotmail.com and it comes up saying "connection was refused"
[04:23] <sipior> err... /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn
[04:23] <reiki_work> BlueEagle: you alive?
[04:23] <osfameron> xbaez: I think the advice is still "If you don't know how to do it, don't do it" for breezy
[04:24] <Tomcat_> dazvid: As I said, omit the CURRENT_CONFIG, add the registry key whereever you want.
[04:24] <osfameron> xbaez: (cos it's not released yet)
[04:24] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: hmm, either mount -a didn't work, or the line I added to fstab doesn't work... /dev/sda1	/mnt/temp	vfat	noauto,user  0  0
[04:25] <sipior> notnilC: different problem, then. can you ping the same sites?
[04:25] <xbaez> osfameron, oh! i see ... i want use php5 but when i search with the hoary sources, it not appear
[04:25] <osfameron> can you open hotmail.com with Linux! ?
[04:25] <notnilC> sipior, yes
[04:25] <osfameron> xbaez: oh, I'm fairly sure php is in there somewhere
[04:25] <sipior> notnilC: do you have a web proxy turned on?
[04:25] <notnilC> i don't think so
[04:26] <notnilC> im pretty sure i dont
[04:26] <brenner> enyc: ping
[04:26] <sipior> have a look in your browser config
[04:26] <dazvid> Tomcat_: Sorry, i dont really understand what you are wanting me to do
[04:26] <Tomcat_> dazvid: I'm reading the wine docs right now, what I said is incorrect anyway.
[04:26] <xbaez> oscarh, really ? ok , i'm looking for it ... thanks :)
[04:26] <notnilC> im using firefox .. where exactly am i looking??
[04:26] <dazvid> Ah ok
[04:26] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: ok... well... mine worked after a reboot, but I was told that mount -a would do what's in fstab. Hopefully I've given you the correct syntax, but if it matches up with the other similar lines in there it should work
[04:26] <osfameron> xbaez: oh, I appear to have php4 installed, not 5
[04:27] <occy> bob2, I think you are right.  :(
[04:27] <occy> major suckage
[04:27] <fluffybunny_> ok... i will reboot... what if the drive isn't in there when I boot? will it complain?
[04:27] <sipior> notnilC: Edit->Preferences->General->Connection
[04:27] <brenner> while i'm waiting, has anyone heard of cpu usage constantly being at 50% in the CPU monitor, but system monitor and 'top' show CPU usage close to 0?
[04:27] <enyc> brenner: pong
[04:27] <Tomcat_> reiki_work: I have no idea if you are giving wrong information... I only know really well about a few fields, and just from experience, my automount devices are not in fstab... :)
[04:27] <enyc> brenner: that was a LONG 5 minutes!
[04:27] <qt2> woah
[04:27] <brenner> enyc: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2155
[04:27] <qt2> TONS of ubuntu updates today? <.<;
[04:27] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: I had that same question.... no... that's why the noauto is in there
[04:27] <occy> bob2, I was able to get my personal files backed up... and synced with unison. So... I guess I could just nuke and re-install
[04:27] <brenner> enyc: i know, sorry...the boot processing kept stopping on me for some reason
[04:27] <Tomcat_> reiki_work: Usually, automount stuff is set in some other config file. But as I told fluffybunny_, trying out is nothing bad to do :o
[04:27] <occy> *sigh*
[04:27] <xbaez> osfameron, ah ok
[04:27] <brenner> s/processing/process
[04:28] <jdermer> is there azureus of ubuntu ?
[04:28] <enyc> 0000:00:14.6 Modem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4378 (rev 02)
[04:28] <jdermer> for 8
[04:28] <notnilC> ok google now works .. but hotmail don't
[04:28] <enyc> I don't recognize that modem/device  brenner
[04:28] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: before you reboot... can you paste your fstab file into the pastebin?
[04:28] <brenner> enyc: so what should i do?
[04:28] <occy> reiki_work, think breezy is stable enough to use now on a daily basis?
[04:28] <brenner> enyc: it's a compaq presario....maybe that's the problem. :-(
[04:29] <qt2> why are theer like... 50x updates at once today? <.<;
[04:29] <reiki_work> occy: I really am no expert, but I won't install it myself till it's ready... BECAUSE I'm no expert :)
[04:29] <brenner> enyc: i also had a look a the device manager...pretty much everything is unknown...
[04:29] <enyc> bren: I dont know what the device is... you MAY get some help pasting that line to  linmodems.org  mailing lists
[04:29] <occy> reiki_work, hehe, nod.
[04:29] <osfameron> xbaez: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44082&highlight=php5 looks useful
[04:29] <Tomcat_> dazvid: Your error message is scattered all over the web in wine mailing lists and websites...  I really have to do some stuff, I can't read hundreds of websites for you... I'm pretty sure you can do that. :)
[04:31] <dazvid> lol
[04:32] <dazvid> Yes I was just wondering if you came across one ;)
[04:32] <dazvid> Thanks anyways.
[04:32] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: if you mount it as /mnt/temp it won't show up on your desktop as far as I know. I mounted mine as /media/usbdisk and I had to create the /media/usbdisk directory for this to work.
[04:32] <Tomcat_> dazvid: Nah, not on the first sight. But it's good to know many people have that problem... there is either a solution or there will soon be one.
[04:32] <notnilC> i can't get to another site to try a different browser
[04:32] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: /mnt/data and /mnt/windows appear on my desktop?
[04:33] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: there MUST be another way to do this because teh automount system was dynamically creating and removing the mount point. The methos I just told you requires the mount point to be there apparently
[04:33] <sipior> notnilC: not sure i follow you. the browser is on the local machine?
[04:33] <masa22> ojla folkk
[04:33] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: ok... then looks fine
[04:33] <notnilC> yes
[04:33] <qt2> jdermer: they have Azureus in synaptic.
[04:33] <sipior> notnilC: and it doesn't work either?
[04:34] <notnilC> im just using what came when i installed ubuntu
[04:34] <setite> damnit it wont turn on
[04:34] <PuGz> hey everyone!
[04:34] <setite> why is my dma being so stubborn
[04:34] <PuGz> i just installed and am running ubuntu breezy
[04:34] <PuGz> its nice
[04:34] <PuGz> i like it
[04:34] <sipior> setite: is dma supported on the drive?
[04:34] <setite> yes
[04:35] <setite> i had dma yesterday
[04:35] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: I am going to look around on google to see if I can't fix the HAL error first --> apparently, hal controls the mounting of cdroms and other removable media (or so I understand), so maybe if I fix that, it will come back?
[04:35] <setite> and i had to reinstall
[04:35] <jdermer> PuGz, welcome
[04:35] <setite> because breezy pissed me off
[04:35] <PuGz> it has a few bugs... but not too bad!
[04:35] <setite> now i had to add amd74xxx to the /etc/modules last tiem.. and ive done that...
[04:35] <PuGz> usable (for a month... until official release)
[04:35] <sipior> notnilC: is hotmail the only site you can't reach? maybe a certificate problem?
[04:35] <notnilC> nope
[04:35] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: if you find anything I'd like to know cause mine was busted too..... well not my HAL... at least not that I know of.
[04:35] <notnilC> now can't use google either
[04:36] <sipior> notnilC: all right, i'm officially baffled. maybe the problem is the underlying network?
[04:36] <notnilC> oh crap
[04:36] <harrytuttle> oh, dma. can't enable it on /dev/hdc of my ibook g4. any other with apple hardware and the same problem?
[04:36] <setite> oh i know what i did wrong
[04:36] <setite> i forgot to add ide-core
[04:36] <fluffybunny_> i don't suppose anyone here can help with HAL! errors? the ubuntu forums seem to be a bunch of people saying "me too" or "here is a hack that makes it work"... not encouraging
[04:36] <setite> its amd74xxx and ide-core above ide-cd
[04:37] <PuGz> there is one bug which is really annoying me! its in evolution. I have my mail on my isp which i get through imap. My Inbox folder gets mail in it and also has subfolders for sent, drafts etc. Evolution recognises that Inbox exists and it has subfolders. I can read all mail in those subfolders... but the mail in Inbox is not readable (when i click on inbox... there is an empty pane on the right where the emails should be)
[04:37] <setite> brb
[04:37] <sipior> notnilC: do you have a firewall between you and the outside world?
[04:37] <selinium> Hi all, I am having probs burning an iso, it says that the cd is not balnk but it deffinately is, Just used kb3 and that worked but did not create the live cd just wrote the iso to the disc
[04:37] <notnilC> yes
[04:37] <PuGz> strange thing is that if you right click and say properties, it recognises that it has 6 emails in it
[04:37] <notnilC> on the router
[04:38] <PuGz> anyone else have this problem
[04:38] <PuGz> ?
[04:38] <sipior> notnilC: maybe outgoing http is blocked to certain sites
[04:38] <sipior> notnilC: though it admittedly seems rather random
[04:38] <notnilC> works with winxp
[04:38] <qt2> err, what's the quicket way to restart x without rebooting?
[04:38] <Madeye> guys, I'm trying to run Standalone IE from Evolt with wine, but it's not working, any idea? shall I move the dll to somewhere?
[04:38] <sipior> notnilC: hmm. sorry, without seeing the machine directly, i'm out of things to try
[04:39] <qt2> err, best even
[04:39] <notnilC> bugger
[04:39] <selinium> qt2: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[04:39] <qt2> selinium: right.... i've gotta reenable that... <.<;
[04:39] <PuGz> qt2: i second that
[04:39] <fluffybunny_> can anyone tell me what the default boot script options are - I messed around in sysvconfig, and thats when all my trouble started, and I dont' remember what I turned on and what I swicthed off....
[04:39] <qt2> Madeye: it's best to manually install IE with wine.
[04:40] <qt2> Madeye: hold on a moment, and i'l give you some proper instructions on how to do it.
[04:40] <Madeye> qt2,  i'm web developer, so I need to test sites with more than one version of IE, thats why I want to use standalone version
[04:41] <selinium> Any ideas why I cant write to cd from right click/write to disc?
[04:41] <gnonthgol> Madeye: I think its best not install IE at all, install Firefox
[04:41] <selinium> From an iso
[04:41] <setite> woot dma back
[04:41] <setite> i was spelling the module wrong
[04:41] <setite> its amd74xx.. not xxx
[04:42] <jurp5> hello
[04:42] <gnonthgol> hi
[04:42] <setite> hola compadre
[04:42] <qt2> Madeye: i see, well installing any version of IE is complicated right now, you might want to try using wine cvs and asking for help in #winehq
[04:42] <selinium> hi setite
[04:42] <PuGz> is there an irc channel for evolution were I can ask about this bug i am having?
[04:42] <jdermer> ubuntu doesnt come with any like firewall built in does it ?
[04:42] <setite> whats up selinium
[04:42] <jurp5> is it save to change now to breezy or is it too buggy
[04:42] <qt2> anyways, brb, gotta reboot my window manager.
[04:43] <selinium> For some reason I can't burn an ISO to disc anymore! It keeps saying to put a blank disc in, i know it is!
[04:44] <jdermer> anyone?
[04:44] <fl> hi there
[04:44] <jdermer> ubuntu doesnt come with any like firewall built in does it ?
[04:44] <selinium> jdermer, give people a chance! Take a look at firestrater or smoothwall
[04:45] <njan> jdermer, it has netfilter and iptables; if you want something friendly to configure them with, try firestarter.
[04:45] <fl> question - to recompile the kernel with another compiler - install the source package and run debian/rules ?
[04:45] <selinium> jdermer, firestarter
[04:45] <jdermer> no i dont want 1
[04:45] <njan> jdermer, or.. if you want something friendly to use iptables to configure netfilter, I should say.
[04:45] <jdermer> im wondering if ubuntu comes with 1
[04:45] <jurp5> does breezy works good for you?
[04:45] <jdermer> because for some reason azureus wont detect its port as being open
[04:46] <jdermer> even tho i have it forwarded in my router
[04:46] <BockBilbo> hello
[04:46] <setite> firestarter is the iptable gui right?
[04:46] <selinium> jdermer, if you haven't installed it then you have not got one!
[04:46] <selinium> setite: yep
[04:46] <setite> i need that
[04:46] <BockBilbo> any of you has managed to get fglrx work in breezy? I managed to make it work on hoary.. but now i cant using breezy... anyone?
[04:46] <setite> and yes i know where to get it
[04:47] <i0wa> ubuntu does support windows games?
[04:48] <BockBilbo> i0wa, no. do u can try cedega on ubuntu
[04:48] <BockBilbo> its not gpl though
[04:48] <BockBilbo> wine might work for some crapy games
[04:48] <i0wa> oic
[04:48] <PuGz> BockBilbo: i am using fglrx in breezy
[04:48] <i0wa> ty
[04:48] <PuGz> BockBilbo: but glxgears is funny... its all a bit strange
[04:49] <BockBilbo> PuGz, does the 3d acc work? which ati card?
[04:49] <occy> I've looked through the du man pages, and I can't see how to sort the output of du from biggest size to smallest
[04:49] <GuBA_> i have a problem with my mouse wireless ... the receptor is a USB ... please helpme
[04:49] <PuGz> BockBilbo: i dont think 3d is working... ati firegl mobility t2
[04:50] <PuGz> BockBilbo: when i try to run glxgears: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:50] <PuGz> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[04:50] <GuBA_> my PC is a HP Pavilion w5030 ...
[04:50] <PuGz> (second line only happens once killed)
[04:50] <BockBilbo> PuGz, :S sucks so... PuGz if you do fglrxinfo, does it say fglrx ati driver?
[04:50] <BockBilbo> or mesa something?
[04:50] <setite> where does firestarter go
[04:50] <guille__> Hi, I vahe a problem with rear chanel of mi SB live 5.1. I can't make it sound (I'm spanish sorry becouse of my english)
[04:51] <PuGz> BockBilbo: i dont even have fglrxinfo!
[04:51] <Hackmo> hey all
[04:51] <PuGz> BockBilbo: but i should i think... the packages are installed!
[04:51] <BockBilbo> PuGz, sudo fglrxinfo
[04:51] <GuBA_> somebody with mouse wireless ???
[04:51] <Hackmo> anyone know of a tools that will tell you the distance between your laptop and an access point?
[04:51] <PuGz> BockBilbo: oops! not in path!
[04:51] <PuGz> hehe
[04:51] <BockBilbo> its on /us/X11R6/bin/, which is just on root's path and not o normal users
[04:51] <BockBilbo> ;)
[04:51] <BockBilbo> yeah
[04:51] <PuGz> BockBilbo: mesa
[04:52] <BockBilbo> PuGz, so u have the same prob as me
[04:52] <PuGz> BockBilbo: and that same error line as before
[04:52] <PuGz> BockBilbo: yep!
[04:52] <PuGz> BockBilbo: bug report!
[04:52] <BockBilbo> ... i remember that in hoary it used to show up fglrx somthing insteado f mesa..
[04:52] <BockBilbo> no.. i dont think its a bug
[04:53] <BockBilbo> its a problem related with configuration
[04:53] <PuGz> yeah... hoary worked
[04:53] <PuGz> why isnt it a bug?
[04:53] <occy> odd
[04:53] <occy> I can't seem to do ctrl+alt+F1
[04:53] <occy> to get at console.
[04:53] <occy> from the login screen at GDM
[04:53] <PuGz> BockBilbo: well... it really IS a bug... if we installed fglrx stuff... then it should work automatically... so not a bug with program... but with design?
[04:53] <BockBilbo> see.. i think the driver has been upgraded, i guess it has different config options
[04:53] <auTONYmous> I can't get gnomebaker to erase a DVD+RW
[04:54] <PuGz> BockBilbo: i havent yet run fglrxconfig
[04:54] <BockBilbo> PuGz, have you taken a look to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:54] <PuGz> BockBilbo: maybe thats it
[04:54] <BockBilbo> PuGz, yes
[04:54] <BockBilbo> try it out
[04:54] <PuGz> BockBilbo: i merely changed ati to fglrx
[04:54] <PuGz> BockBilbo: ok
[04:54] <PuGz> gimme a min
[04:54] <BockBilbo> PuGz, i did the same thing
[04:54] <mchammer> hello could someone tell me howto move the open terminal entry on the top of the context menu?
[04:54] <netstar> Anyone running ubuntu on their mac?
[04:54] <mchammer> in breezy
[04:55] <bob2> netstar: lots of people do
[04:55] <bob2> it's easier if you just ask your question
[04:55] <BockBilbo> bob2, got a usplash question...
[04:55] <BockBilbo> may i go ahead?
[04:55] <bob2> as above
[04:55] <setite> best method is to just ask away... and pray for a pickup
[04:55] <BockBilbo> xD
[04:55] <markuma1> why i can t install firefox under breezy?
[04:55] <setite> but dont pester
[04:55] <bob2> asking to ask is more annoying than almost any question could be
[04:56] <bob2> markuma1: it was installable an hour ago
[04:56] <BockBilbo> sorry bob2 i just didnt want to bother :S
[04:56] <bob2> unless you have some el dodgo backport installed
[04:56] <BockBilbo> bob2, as i told you the last day, ive dist-upgraded to breezy from hoary, and cant make usplash work at boot
[04:56] <occy> man, you guys getting all the lame sexchat bot messages?
[04:57] <BockBilbo> ive tried dpkg-reconfigure for the runnig kernel and usplash... but nothing happens
[04:57] <markuma1> bob2, i have ubuntu breezy installed without gnome because of lineakd. so i installed only xfce. but there it is impossible to install firefox
[04:57] <reter> what is that website where you can post large text
[04:57] <PuGz> BockBilbo: done an fglrxconfig and restarted X... still same problem
[04:57] <BockBilbo> PuGz, just as it happens to me...  Breezy uses 8.14.13 ati fglrx
[04:58] <occy> tarred up ~  so I can have my configs saved.
[04:58] <BockBilbo> yep.. i know.. PuGz i guess well have to figure out how to make it work..
[04:59] <bob2> occy: that won't help if the disk is broken, tho...
[04:59] <occy> bob2, quick question, is there a way I can do:   linux vesa    at boot?
[04:59] <BockBilbo> ive tried using the installer from the official ati site... it might work for you.. didnt for me
[04:59] <occy> bob2, I'm sure it's the funky driver misconfiguration.
[04:59] <occy> bob2, I'm certainly hopeing that's it.
[04:59] <bob2> occy: I don't know what that option would is supposed to do
[04:59] <BockBilbo> occy, change the grub menu.lst
[04:59] <bob2> heh
[04:59] <occy> heh
[04:59] <bob2> BockBilbo: you're completely up to date with breezy?
[05:00] <occy> I was trying to avoid manually picking vesa as the card.
[05:00] <BockBilbo> bob2, yes
[05:00] <BockBilbo> just downloaded the newest packages
[05:00] <bob2> occy: for X? I'd just pick it later.
[05:00] <bob2> BockBilbo: and what dpkg-reconfigure command are you running?
[05:00] <occy> bob2, hey, my bios has a hd checking tool
[05:00] <occy> maybe I should run that.
[05:01] <occy> heh
[05:01] <occy> here we go
[05:01] <occy> this'll take 62mins
[05:01] <occy> fun
[05:01] <BockBilbo> bob2, dpkg-reconfigure usplash && dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-8-686
[05:02] <bob2> maybe dpkg-reconfigure -plow would work
[05:02] <BockBilbo> what is -plow for?
[05:02] <markuman> bob2: here is the sources.list, what happend is i try to install (with aptitude search mozilla-firefox i found it too). http://paste.debian.net/1890
[05:02] <netstar> for preparing ground for planting.
[05:03] <netstar> *groan*
[05:03] <markuman> and i type mozilla and 2time tab to show what is installed with "mozilla"
[05:04] <bob2> markuman: it's called firefox in breezy
[05:04] <BockBilbo> bob2, done the dpkg-reconfigure -plow of both packages.. should i reboot to see if it worked? or do i have to do any modification to /boot/grub/menu.list
[05:04] <BockBilbo> ?
[05:04] <markuman> bob2: oh f*cking damn thx
[05:04] <reter> i am trying to upgrade and i got these error messages ...    http://pastebin.ca/22815
[05:05] <BockBilbo> */boot/grub/menu.ls
[05:05] <bob2> BockBilbo: you don't get a config option at all?
[05:06] <BockBilbo> what do you mean by a config option?
[05:06] <BockBilbo> y/n option?
[05:06] <bob2> the point of the dpkg-reconfigure call is to turn it on
[05:06] <BockBilbo> bob2,  this is what i get : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2157
[05:06] <reter> i am trying to upgrade and i got these error messages ...    http://pastebin.ca/22815
[05:07] <BockBilbo> reter, please don repeat sentencies
[05:07] <bob2> BockBilbo: er, have you been getting that for the past few days you've been asking about this?
[05:08] <BockBilbo> bob2, yes
[05:08] <bob2> reter: that's not an error
[05:08] <bob2> BockBilbo: did you read it?
[05:08] <reter> reter, well its not upgrading
[05:08] <reter> hehe
[05:08] <reter> bob2, its not upgrading
[05:08] <bob2> BockBilbo: specifically the "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping..." bit
[05:08] <BockBilbo> bob2, u talking about this Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...?
[05:08] <bob2> reter: hit q
[05:08] <BockBilbo> yes, ive read it
[05:08] <bob2> that seems like a pretty important avenue to explore
[05:08] <BockBilbo> but i read in the forum that its related to the grub splash image
[05:09] <bob2> where do splash images come from?
[05:09] <bob2> ok
[05:09] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.. would anyone know why the version of Firefox i download with synaptic is so slow?
[05:09] <reter> what do i do next?
[05:09] <Trackilizer> I don't mean the browser itself.
[05:09] <BockBilbo> bob2, am i wrong?
[05:09] <bob2> reter: read what it says?
[05:09] <thenuke> Trackilizer: so you mean what then :)
[05:09] <Trackilizer> I mean scrowling down the bookmarks.
[05:09] <bob2> BockBilbo: I don't know
[05:10] <BockBilbo> :S sucks..
[05:10] <thenuke> Trackilizer: ah ok. well I dont have a glue about that :)
[05:10] <Trackilizer> Or the time it takes to open a new Tab.
[05:10] <thenuke> Trackilizer: and you dont have very old hardware?
[05:10] <BockBilbo> bob2, didnt you have this problem? or u just dont use usplash?
[05:10] <Trackilizer> It takes over 2 secs to open a new tab.
[05:10] <bob2> I don't use breezy
[05:10] <bob2> BockBilbo: look in your menu.lst
[05:10] <Trackilizer> 1.7GHz a gig of Ram
[05:10] <bob2> you should have a "splash" boot option
[05:11] <BockBilbo> bob2, i have it
[05:12] <Trackilizer> I uninstalled Firefox and installed the version from thier website but the plugins i installed didn't work.
[05:12] <Trackilizer> And i wanted to know, how do i install stuff into "usr/bin".
[05:12] <Trackilizer> I tried that.
[05:12] <Trackilizer> But i don't have permision.
[05:12] <reter>  #318176 - imagemagick in combination with transcode fails (amd64)
[05:12] <reter>    Merged with:<PHONE_NUMBER>20
[05:12] <reter> grave bugs of gnome-system-tools (1.2.0-0ubuntu6 -> 1.4.0-0ubuntu1) <open>
[05:12] <reter>  #309932 - boot-admin should not be in unstable
[05:12] <reter> grave bugs of gs-esp (7.07.1-9ubuntu3 -> 7.07.1-9ubuntu5) <open>
[05:12] <reter>  #323087 - gs-esp - cups driver fails with ENOENT
[05:12] <reter> grave bugs of aptitude (<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu12 -> <IP_ADDRESS>-3ubuntu4) <open>
[05:12] <reter>  #321889 - aptitude uninstallable on experimental
[05:12] <reter> grave bugs of libpango1.0-0 (1.8.1-0ubuntu2 -> 1.10.0-2) <open>
[05:12] <reter>  #321832 - Applications linked to libpango1.0-0 SIGSEGV
[05:13] <reter> grave bugs of libpango1.0-common (1.8.1-0ubuntu2 -> 1.10.0-2) <open>
[05:13] <reter>  #325361 - libpango1.0-common: Postinstallation script dies because /etc/defoma/config/pango.conf has not been unpacked
[05:13] <reter> Summary:
[05:13] <reter>  xserver-xorg(2 bugs), gthumb(1 bug), gaim(1 bug), libsqlite3-0(1 bug), xlibs(1 bug), gksu(3 bugs), postfix(1 bug), libdjvulibre15(1 bug), libopenal0(1 bug), bogofilter-bdb(1 bug), alsa-utils(1 bug), evolution(6 bugs), python-apt(1 bug), nautilus(1 bug), libmagick6(1 bug), xbase-clients(2 bugs), gnome-system-tools(1 bug), clamav(1 bug), eog(1 bug), gs-esp(2 bugs), w3m(1 bug), gedit(1 bug), bluez-utils(1 bug), aptitude(4 bugs), libpango1
[05:13] <reter> .0-0(1 bug), synaptic(2 bugs), xscreensaver(1 bug), libpango1.0-common(1 bug), sound-juicer(1 bug), libruby1.8(1 bug), lvm2(1 bug), evince(2 bugs)
[05:13] <BockBilbo> reter dont pase that here
[05:13] <reter> what does this mean
[05:13] <bob2> reter: dude, stop it
[05:13] <reter> argh
[05:13] <bob2> it means you installed apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs and don't know what they do
[05:13] <reter> i would like some help upgrading pls
[05:13] <Trackilizer> So would anyone have an answer to my question?+
[05:13] <bob2> Trackilizer: don't install stuff to /usr/bin/
[05:13] <BockBilbo> reter
[05:14] <BockBilbo> reter, do this : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:14] <Trackilizer> I see.
[05:14] <bob2> Trackilizer: put it in /usr/local/
[05:14] <Trackilizer> So where should i install stuff?
[05:14] <reter> i did that BockBilbo
[05:14] <bob2> Trackilizer: or into your home directory
[05:14] <bob2> reter: why did you install apt-listbugs to begin with?
[05:14] <Trackilizer> All stuff installed by synaptic are in there aswell.
[05:14] <auTONYmous> how can I change the permissions so that cdrecord and gnomebaker work with my DVD drive?
[05:14] <bob2> reter: and just say yes to it again
[05:14] <reter> because someone told me to do it...they though i had bugs
[05:14] <bob2> auTONYmous: what does that have to do with permissions?
[05:14] <bob2> reter: then they're dumb
[05:14] <BockBilbo> check your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment all non official ubuntu repositores
[05:15] <bob2> reter: and don't do things just because peopel tell you to
[05:15] <bob2> reter: now say yes to it and continue on
[05:15] <reter> so right now what do i do
[05:15] <bob2> and if you flood again you will be banned
[05:15] <auTONYmous> I can read the drive, but gnomebaker won't burn...looks like cdrecord may not be suid right...
[05:15] <reter> i have had said yes to it
[05:15] <reter> and i get the same
[05:15] <auTONYmous> and the drive has ro for all except root
[05:16] <BockBilbo> anyone here uses breezy with the usplash working?
[05:16] <bob2> reter: then stop, get rid of it and carry on
[05:16] <bob2> BockBilbo: that's not useful either, it Just Works for nearly everyone else
[05:16] <bob2> BockBilbo: you really never did anything weird?
[05:16] <reter> sigh bob2
[05:16] <bob2> auTONYmous: run it under root
[05:16] <reter> you are so arragant
[05:16] <bob2> reter: stop being so useless then
[05:16] <reter> i do not know what these messages are
[05:16] <BockBilbo> bob2, i just want to know if in /boot/grub/menu.list they have usplash instead of splash in the kernel option
[05:16] <reter> all i want to do right now is upgrade to breezy
[05:17] <bob2> reter: sudo apt-get remove apt-listchanges apt-listbugs
[05:17] <bob2> reter: then be quiet and do what I've suggsted
[05:17] <auTONYmous> bob2: what, cdrecord?
[05:17] <BockBilbo> reter dont upgrade to breezy
[05:17] <Trackilizer> bob2, i can install stuff into the folder you said without any problems?
[05:17] <Trackilizer> I won't have permision probs?
[05:17] <bob2> auTONYmous: yes, tell gnomebaker or whatever to run it with sudo
[05:17] <bob2> Trackilizer: not if you're the first user created on the system
[05:17] <auTONYmous> alright, now you have lost me
[05:17] <reter> why not BockBilbo ?
[05:18] <BockBilbo> PuGz, u there?
[05:18] <Trackilizer> I am the only user on the system.
[05:18] <bob2> Trackilizer: then you'll be fine
[05:18] <bob2> auTONYmous: just run the whole thing under sudo then
[05:18] <BockBilbo> reter, because it still unstable. Wait one month until the stable release
[05:18] <Trackilizer> Ok, i'll try that.
[05:18] <bob2> auTONYmous: sudo gnomebaker
[05:18] <Trackilizer> Thank's
[05:18] <BockBilbo> reter, just upgrade if you really now what you are doing and know how to fix most problems you will encounter
[05:19] <Trackilizer> The other thing i wanted to know was: how come the firefox plugins won't work if i install firefox myself?
[05:19] <bob2> that depends entirely on how you set it up
[05:19] <bob2> and is more a #firefox or whatever question, not a #ubuntu one
[05:19] <Trackilizer> They only seem to work if firefox was installed with synaptic.
[05:19] <BockBilbo> Trackilizer, iguess its because you install firefox in other location than the one from the ubuntu package
[05:20] <GoClick> Using apt is there a way I can list installed packages or better yet see what's installed that contains *apache*
[05:20] <Trackilizer> Well, that's why i was trying to install into usr/bin
[05:20] <bob2> dpkg -l | grep "^ii.*apache"
[05:21] <bob2> just stay out of /usr/bin entirely
[05:21] <Trackilizer> I guess i'll just try some other browsers.
[05:21] <bob2> ubunt upackages go there, nothing you install manually should
[05:21] <auTONYmous> bob2: crashing. Looks like DVD+_RW-format is horked also...
[05:21] <Trackilizer> And hope they will work.
[05:21] <GoClick> thanks bob
[05:21] <BockBilbo> Trackilizer, why dont u use firefox?
[05:22] <bob2> BockBilbo: did anyone reply to your post to the mailing list?
[05:22] <auTONYmous> bob2: screw it...I'm going NeroLinux
[05:22] <BockBilbo> bob2, i didnt send any mail to the mailing list
[05:22] <thrice`> auTONYmous, lol...
[05:23] <bob2> auTONYmous: ok...
[05:23] <bob2> BockBilbo: oh
[05:23] <BockBilbo> bob2, let me check the latest emails in the list, maybe someone had the same prob
[05:23] <draug_n> guy/say guys, i think i seriousl
[05:23] <BockBilbo> otherwise, ill send a message.. brb, going to gmail
[05:24] <digitize> Trackilizer: with apt, just do apt-cache search apache
[05:24] <digitize> it'll list all apache related pkgs and say if they're installed or not
[05:24] <bob2> no it doesn't
[05:24] <cheesie> ubotu tell cheesie about ndiswrapper
[05:24] <digitize> oh yeah it doesn't.... hrmmm, i thought there was a cmd like that
[05:25] <digitize> errr, i'm thinking gentoo
[05:25] <cheesie> ubotu tell cheesie about webcam
[05:25] <cheesie> ubotu tell cheesie about remote
[05:25] <bob2> aptitude shows similar information
[05:25] <bob2> cheesie: you can talk to the bot in /msg, too
[05:26] <_sunzi_> hi