[02:18] <ScabbyMadman> Billiard, good point
[02:18] <gbear14275> should I be installing ssh, openssh-server or ssh-server packages...  I know this is a horrible question to be asking... but just curious
[02:18] <telive> so many people here
[02:18] <nohup> there's no way to downgrade back to 9.04, is there ? :)
[02:18] <KitsuneDragon> karlhs: but mint is meh but thats my opinion >_<
[02:18] <aquachica> A clean install from a clean CD took care of my issues.  No more network upgrading for me.
[02:18] <gbear14275> nohup: backup, delete, reinstall?
[02:18] <Jordan_U> CommonClone: To fix grub instead run "sudo grub install /dev/sda1 --root-directory=/mnt" then be sure to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" once you are booted into your system
[02:18] <angelus> jim__ for 9.10 id recommend burning a LIve CD and installing through there
[02:18] <commotion> billiard & scabbymadman it is easy to install php and stuff on it once i have everything setup?
 its a program that is easy and fun that allows oyu to create DVDs containing photos an movies for you family to view in a dvd player.
[02:18] <Jordan_U> CommonClone: Sorry, typo
[02:18] <nohup> gbear14275: something more elegant ? :)
[02:18] <Guest54607> is someone on that has a good understanding of how to install tar.gz's?
[02:19] <jim__> angelus: do i need to install 9.04 first? or go directly to 9.10?
[02:19] <formerguest> yes i have a good understanding.
[02:19] <Billiard> commotion: yes its easy, just using apt-get
[02:19] <KitsuneDragon> stephans: try piviti! its like windows movie maker!
[02:19] <Jordan_U> CommonClone: Should be "sudo grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/mnt"
[02:19] <kfizz> phibxr, No luck.
[02:19] <ScabbyMadman> commotion ubuntu will be a little easier than slackware, but if you like to get your hands dirty then slack is a good place to start
[02:19] <commotion> cause what i have is a poweredge sc420 that it will be.. what about dell drivers?
[02:19] <angelus> you can go directly to 9.10 with the Live CD ... an use Live CD with the 9.10 ... i had too many problems upgrading via the repos ...
[02:19] <formerguest> Guest54607: do you know how to decompress and untar the file?
[02:19] <Guest54607> formerguest was actually talking to you earlier...sovled my first problem...now i'm trying to install vmware so i can do a virtual desktop
 piviti... ok
[02:19] <KitsuneDragon> scabbyMadman: does slack have a live CD, DVD?
[02:20] <KitsuneDragon> stephans: might as well try it
[02:20] <formerguest> Guest54607: I would say 'lol' but I guess we can't say that here :)
[02:20] <ScabbyMadman> KitsuneDragon, not too sure....
[02:20] <CommonClone> Jordan_U: ok, where /dev/sda should be my 9.10 partition?  in my case, sda5 right?
[02:20] <Ollonk> is there any way to manage drivers in linux (not proprietary, my synaptics device is trying to use the psmouse driver)
[02:20] <KitsuneDragon> scabbymadman: ok time for google!
[02:20] <Jordan_U> CommonClone: No, it's referring to the entire drive, not a single partition
[02:20] <CommonClone> Jordan_U: ok
[02:20] <KitsuneDragon> Guest: why not?
[02:20] <angelus> has anyone tried to get the 9.04 "add/remove software" program for karmic ???
 piviti is not available in the apt repos...
[02:20] <Awsoonn> I  have upgraded a system to 9.10 and it is causing network congestion on the rest of the network wehn I use skype or empathy for voice/ video chat now. any clues on what I should look for? all of the wireless clients on my computer have a 11second ping tiem when my computer is internetting. :/
[02:21] <ScabbyMadman> KitsuneDragon, only live  cds Ive evrr used have been debian based like ubuntu or debian itself
[02:21] <Guest54607> formerguest true...hand on a sec and i will post my error message
[02:21] <commotion> is it possable to duel boot both slackware and ubuntu server? with 2 partitions?
[02:21] <formerguest> Guest54607: something like vmware is better to install by apt-get or synaptic
[02:21] <stephans> apt: E: Couldn't find package piviti
[02:21] <KitsuneDragon> stephans: sorry im using windows for now and cant remember the name hold on...
[02:21] <ScabbyMadman> so on 9.10 netbook remix how do I add  more desktops?
[02:21] <Awsoonn> I should note that I have 5 wireless sysytems on my network that all have the same symptom at the same times.
[02:21] <Guest54607> formerguest its on synaptic?...i thought i looked for it
[02:22] <formerguest> Guest54607: yes search for 'vmware'
[02:22] <KitsuneDragon> stephans: sorry it was Pitivi!
 ok thank you.
[02:22] <Guest54607> formerguest ok yea its there and i have it already installed
[02:23] <KitsuneDragon> scabbymadman: i know that fedora,ubuntu,sabayon,Gos, and some others have live cds so it sounds like most of the more modern ones.....
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> ScabbyMadman: the way its designed, you really only need one desktop, because every window is a tab.
[02:23] <unknown_> formerguest: I'm back.  I have 7 more mins. before HBO
[02:23] <Guest54607> formerguest but i just did a search for it and can't seem to find it on my drives
[02:23] <ashlayne> Does anyone know how to edit the contents of a hard disk from within a LiveCD OS?
[02:24] <formerguest> unknown_: well I didn't do anything useful.
[02:24] <Blank__> what do you mean by edit, ashlayne
[02:24] <ashlayne> Like, for instance, delete files.
[02:24] <ScabbyMadman> so on ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix how do I add  more desktops?
[02:24] <KitsuneDragon> scabbymadman: slackerware doesnt have a live cd but a derivitave Slax does!
[02:24] <Blank__> you'd have to mount the partition, ashlayne
[02:24] <formerguest> unknown_: OK i'll do something useful.  I'll make a new gmail and then make a new launchpad account, then register this stupid bug so you can add a comment.
[02:25] <Blank__> depending on your livecd, it should show up any partitions it's found on the desktop
[02:25] <Ollonk> my touchpad stopped working after I upgraded to karmic
[02:25] <angelus> ashlayne as far as i know ... you dont need to do anything special ...
[02:25] <ashlayne> The partition is already mounted, Blank__, but it's read-only for some reason.
[02:25] <ScabbyMadman> KitsuneDragon, is the slax a 64bit distro....?
[02:25] <Blank__> is it a windows based partition?
[02:25] <Blank__> e.g NTFS, FAT32?
[02:25] <ashlayne> No, ext3.
[02:25] <Blank__> oh...
 thak you for the link... but it seems like Pitivi can not do picture slide shows...
[02:25] <Blank__> drop into the terminal and show me what mount throws back about the partition
[02:25] <Guest54607> anyone familiar with installing vmware and making a virtual desktop (the second part i more or less know how to do)
[02:26] <KitsuneDragon> scabbymadman: i dont know hold on
[02:26] <Awsoonn> Guest54607: What do you want to know?
[02:26] <KitsuneDragon> stephans: really darn.... i though it would be able to
[02:26] <sls_ownez> Guest54607: install vmware with synaptivc
[02:26] <sls_ownez> Guest54607: synaptic*
[02:26] <unknown_> formerguest: most likely I'll return tomorrow - - I'll add a comment to start somewhere.
 I look like it can put video clip on a cd though...
[02:26] <cpare> Hello all
[02:27] <Guest54607> Awsoonn well i've installed it from the synaptic but i can't seem to run it
[02:27] <Guest54607> Awsoonn am i just missing something?
[02:27] <crohakon> via terminal, how do I move a directory to another directory?
[02:27] <frozen[fark]> whats the minimum specs needed to run ubuntu on a laptop?
[02:27] <Billiard> crohakon: the mv command
[02:27] <frozen[fark]> it seems to hang after installation
[02:27] <KitsuneDragon> scabbymadman: http://www.slax.org/forum.php?action=view&parentID=4835 here is your answer
[02:27] <Ollonk> anyone know how to fix drivers?>
[02:27] <sls_ownez> frozen[fark]: !give google ubuntu.com
[02:27]  * PhantomLink gives sls_ownez Navi.
[02:27]  * Ed54 gives sls_ownez<EMAIL_ADDRESS>PRIVMSG #ubuntu :-frozen[fark]: !give google ubuntu.com.
[02:27]  * PhantomLink gives Ed54 some speakers.
[02:27] <crohakon> tried, did not seem to work...
[02:27] <kjele> crohakon: mv -r
[02:27] <Ed54> ?
[02:27] <woodyjlw> i was just getting help fixing suspend and after reboot it says you have to load kernal and press any key to continue and even recovery says same
[02:27] <shiznebit_TB> crohakon: mv <directory> <new.directory?
[02:27] <cpare> 9.10 question - where is the GDM setting in the UI in this release?
[02:28] <KitsuneDragon> stephans: ok you could also try avidmux but i dont think that will work either :/
[02:28] <ScabbyMadman> so no one  knows how to add more desktops to  ubuntu 9.10 netbook?
[02:28] <Ed54> PhantomLink: i already have speakers.  but thanks, i'll plug it in right now, these laptop speakers suck
[02:28] <crohakon> yes
[02:28] <Guest54607> sls_ownez i did that......how do you run it once its installed?
[02:28] <Awsoonn> Guest54607: VMware is not available from synapric. I don't know what you accually installed. :) WHy do you want to use VMware over Virtualbox?
[02:29] <KitsuneDragon> Scabbymadman: yes click on the "desktop switcher" in the gnome panel right click go to options and selct 4 instead of 2
[02:29] <Guest54607> well i would have prefered to use virtualbox but couldn't find it
[02:29] <Mike_lifeguard> Viking667: It turns out to be a permission error :) But now I have got ncmpc stuck on pause -- do you know that client?
[02:29] <KitsuneDragon> awsoon: VirtualBox is awesome!
[02:30] <Guest54607> Awsoonn well i would have prefered to use virtualboc but i couldn't find a download for it
[02:30] <KitsuneDragon> Guest54607: go to their website there is a downloadable .deb
[02:30] <Awsoonn> Guest54607: are you looking for VMware workstation or just the player?
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> What package provides /etc/group ?
[02:30] <meowpup> ubuntu CE is a great os
[02:30] <shiznebit_TB> Guest54607: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[02:30] <sls_forever> tonyyarusso: its part of the filesystem tony, did you delete it?
[02:30] <KitsuneDragon> meowpup: Ubuntu Ce?
[02:30] <Izinucs> Guest54607: www.virtualbox.org
[02:31] <egoTripper88> I have installed all of the correct ia32 librasries but flas in nfirefox has crapped out
[02:31] <meowpup> Kitar|st: google it
[02:31] <formerguest> !google
[02:31] <Izinucs> shiznebit_TB: that version doesn't have usb support
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> sls_forever: um, "part of the filesystem" it is not - mkfs doesn't create that file on any new partition.
[02:31] <Guest54607> Awsoonn was making a virtual desktop..but was just stupid and didn't look for their webpage
[02:31] <sls_forever> tonyyarusso: i mean part of the fhs
[02:31] <Avash> Gnea, hi
[02:31] <Guest54607> thanks to all who just helped
[02:31] <Awsoonn> Guest54607: the workstaion verion is not free AFIK, and the server edition of VMware will not be good for what I immagin you want to do. :) Virutal box is great and I have been using it for 'a long time' now. I think you will want to download the closed source version though.
[02:31] <meowpup> egoTripper88: with flash there are 2 versions in synaptic free and non-free. best to use one or other not both.
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> sls_forever: That may be true, but I need to know what's responsible for creating it, so I can file a bug against it.
[02:32] <Dracofodder> whats the apt command that is similar to "rpm -qa" ??
[02:32] <ashlayne> Blank__: mount: can't find /media/244 GB Filesystem in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:32] <Avash> meowpup, hello there
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> sls_forever: ie, the configuration of that file is wrong by default.
[02:32] <meowpup> hi all
[02:32] <sls_forever> tonyyarusso: how so
[02:32] <R0b0t1> What is the ubuntu aget package?
[02:32] <The_Journey> how do I install driver for my soundcard? It's C-Media CMI8738
[02:32] <GnuSense> Does it look like the pressure on the servers is starting to ease up?  I'm thinking of upgrading.  Also, is there any reason I shouldn't just substitute karmic for jaunty in my apt/sources files and "apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of using the upgrade manager?
[02:32] <Guest54607> Awsoonn why the closed verison?
[02:32] <thiensen> hi
[02:32] <thiensen> its possible or not to install 9.10 with ext3 ??
[02:32] <Blank__> ashlayne, is that the output of mount?
[02:32] <sreenath> Is there anything to replace policykit-gnome (from ibex and jaunty) on karmic
[02:32] <ashlayne> Yes.
[02:32] <Blank__> :s
[02:32] <Awsoonn> Guest54607: it has basic 3D capibilities
[02:33] <meowpup> egoTripper88: flash i suggest you try non-free that usuallly should fix problems
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> sls_forever: Go to System > Administration > Users & Groups, select Add User, and note the option for "Don't ask for password on login" - it's unavailable.  This is in part due to a missing group.
[02:33] <ashlayne> Unless I'm not doing it right. >.<
[02:33] <Izinucs> Guest54607: usb support and it's much more up-to-date
[02:33] <nDuff> Howdy. I'm using TwinView and Compiz on an Ubuntu 9.10 desktop; when alt+tab'ing to switch between an application on the left monitor and one on the right, the mouse cursor stays over the app on the prior monitor, and focus does not change. Alt+tab'ing _does_ raise an application that's hidden, so it's not completely ineffectual. Is there a way to ensure that focus is correctly transferred?
[02:33] <Ollonk> http://kotaku.com/5394621/latest-wiimote-attachment-baby
[02:33] <wabz> I don't have any sound in 9.10, 9.4 worked fine, anyone able to help me fix it?
[02:33] <Ollonk> sorry wrong tab guys
[02:33] <meowpup> go ubuntu CE
[02:33] <thiensen> its possible or not to install 9.10 with ext3 ??
[02:33] <Blank__> ashlayne, mount should show the mounted partitions... i have no idea what it's going on about
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> thiensen: It is.
[02:33] <meowpup> lol
[02:33] <Awsoonn> Guest54607: if you don't care about 3D though, the open source version from synaptic should od you fine. you can always switch back and forth AFIK
[02:33] <PoggerZ> \list
[02:33] <ashlayne> Oh, just the mount command? *facepalm*
[02:33] <Billiard> thiensen: very easy and possible
[02:34] <thiensen> tonyyarusso:i tried to install with extended 4..but after my instalation is finish...it gives me an error (grub rescue)
[02:34] <thiensen> my ubuntu server wont boot
[02:34] <meowpup> thiensen: ext3 will work fine
[02:34] <GnuSense> thiensen, I'm sure you can still use ext3, just do a custom partition.
[02:34] <digital-rouge> hey guys i need some serius help here
[02:34] <thiensen> so do u have any suggestion??
[02:34] <Guest54607> Awsoonn yea atm don't really care about the cd, just need to be able to do a virtual boot of windows
[02:34] <ashlayne> Blank__: /dev/sda1 on /media/a7d80d55-4112-47ee-ae1d-8d25da0c034c type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit)
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> i had a lot of probs w/ 9.10 and ext3
[02:34] <thiensen> grub rescue again and again..
[02:34] <ashlayne> is what it says about the drive
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> once i switched to ext4, problems vanished
[02:35] <sreenath> !ask|IndyGunFreak
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> don't know why,l i've used ext3 for years w/o issue
[02:35] <CommonClone> Jordan_U, ok, I was able to boot into my 9.10 partition.  so far so good, not I ran dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and it is asking me to confirm the parameters.  is there anything I should be concerned with here?
[02:35] <Blank__> ashlayne, that claims the ext3 is read and write... perhaps it's a permissions problem :s
[02:35] <digital-rouge> hey guys my broadcom wireless isnt working after fresh install
[02:35] <PoggerZ> how do you list chans in Empathy?
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> sreenath: i wasn't asking a question i was making a statement, so please don't talk to me unless you have a point
[02:35] <Flynsarmy> Does karmic have GPU acceleration for video using VDPAU?
[02:35] <meowpup> thiensen: boot into live cd use gparted left click partition and select check do that for all of them then reboot
[02:35] <Jordan_U> CommonClone: Press space bar to select your drive
[02:35] <Luke> I'm changing my keyobard alyout with the gnome keyboard layout manager but the changes aren't effective in emacs. anyone know how to get emacs to see the gnome keyboard layout changes?
[02:35]  * Avash asks if there is any channel related to intel motherboards
[02:36] <Jordan_U> Flynsarmy: For nvidia cards, yes
[02:36] <ashlayne> Blank__: Any clue how to fix that? Also, thank you for helping. =)
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> digital-rouge: which one?
[02:36] <digital-rouge> the ata one
[02:36] <Flynsarmy> Jordan_U, any idea if VLC uses this?
[02:36] <digital-rouge> private chat me dude
[02:36] <thiensen> meowpup:any way without live cd??
[02:37] <R0b0t1> What is the ubuntu aget package?
[02:37] <Jordan_U> Flynsarmy: I think it can ( as well as totem and mplayer ), I don't know if it does by default
[02:37] <KitsuneDragon> Compiz trick number one ctrl+alt+down arrow cool effect
[02:37] <Blank__> ashlayne, i'm not sure, you'd have to google about mounting with some sort of root permissions thing for that drive. also, you're welcome, glad i could at least narrow things down
[02:37] <angelus> OK, i got the jaunty front-end for the repos in Karmic .... its really easy but if anyone is interested just version me ...
[02:37] <Blank__> i have to have some lunch, so i'll have to leave you at that, ashlayne
[02:37] <ashlayne> kk
[02:37] <ashlayne> Later.
[02:38] <CommonClone> Jordan_U, the parameters it is asking me for are "vga=795" and "quiet splash".  after I confirm these, the screen exits and I get an error: "mktemp: failed to create file via template `/tmp/grub.XXXXXXXXXX': Invalid argument"
[02:38] <kjele> ashlayne: what you want to mount?
[02:38] <ziggy_> is there a way i can use Yahoo Messenger with Linux with Voice working ?/?
[02:39] <Luke> I'm changing my keyobard alyout with the gnome keyboard layout manager but the changes aren't effective in emacs. anyone know how to get emacs to see the gnome keyboard layout changes?
[02:39] <ashlayne> kjele: I'm trying to mount my HD with rw permissions, but I'm on a LiveCD.
[02:39] <Jordan_U> CommonClone: If you run "echo $?" right after the dpkg-reconfigure command what does it output?
[02:39] <ubuntu> i am new on linux, what is the best distrib : xunbuntu or ubuntu ?
[02:39] <LinuxGuy2009> I decided to give Brasero another try here in 9.10 release of Ubuntu. Ive been using Nero Linux 3 in 9.04. I hit burn and it says getting size and it just hangs, it never burns. Im about to go back to Nero. Any ideas?
[02:39] <soreau> ! best | ubuntu
[02:39] <Flynsarmy> Jordan_U, does totem use it by default? watching MKV is still using a constant 100% cpu for me. well, 50% but its dual core
[02:40] <ubuntu> thx
[02:40] <Ollonk> I have half analyzed my problem
[02:40] <AphisOne> I am trying to do a update-initramfs and I'm given an error that the location that the link is being created in is read-only... how do I correct that?
[02:40] <Ollonk> there is no input event for my touchpad
[02:40] <Jordan_U> Flynsarmy: I don't know, try checking with "gstreamer-properties"
[02:40] <CommonClone> Jordan_U, ok, I ran echo $? and it just displays "1"
[02:40] <Billiard> ashlayne: can you write to it using sudo?
[02:40] <kjele> ashlayne: What is it device node? /dev/sda1 ?
[02:41] <c0ld> PID	Name
[02:41] <c0ld> 832	avahi-daemon
[02:41] <c0ld> 833	avahi-daemon
[02:41] <c0ld> 1308	NetworkManager
[02:41] <c0ld> 1551	wpa_supplicant
[02:41] <FloodBot1> c0ld: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:41] <c0ld> 1552	dhclient
[02:41] <ashlayne> kjele: yes. Billiard: Thing is, I'm not very familiar with terminal >.< So I'm not sure how to do that.
[02:41] <c0ld> ok
[02:41] <c0ld> if I kill those processes
[02:41] <c0ld> what will happen
[02:41] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[02:42] <d3ndr0batida3> Hi
[02:42] <ziggy_> is there a way i can use Yahoo Messenger with Linux with Voice working ?/?
[02:42] <thiensen> i tried to manually partition my hdd
[02:42] <soreau> ! enter | c0ld
[02:42] <thiensen> so /boot on beginning partition
[02:42] <TheSeeker1> I've installed 9.10 but gnome system monitor won't start.  Any tips or suggestions?
[02:42] <kjele> ashlayne: Is it listed under places?
[02:42] <thiensen> and /root on end partition?
[02:42] <Billiard> ashlayne: what are you trying to do, delete files?
[02:42] <ashlayne> kjele: yes
[02:42] <mattwj2002> I was wondering how I get boxee installed for 9.10 on their website they only have packages for 9.04
[02:42] <LinuxGuy2009> What app does everyone else use for burning disks?
[02:42] <soreau> c0ld: If you kill those processes, they will no longer be running.
[02:42] <Jordan_U> CommonClone: Try running "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[02:42] <seyfarth> Hey guys, my keyboard shortcut menu doesn't recognize the windows key (super L) since upgrading to 9.10. any ideas?
[02:42] <PoggerZ> TheSeeker1: What are you using to connect to IRC?
[02:42] <c0ld> yah but will my system remain stable
[02:42] <sreenath> mattwj2002: Try the 9.04 packages, they should work
[02:42] <thiensen> i tried to partition my hardisk on 9.10..so should i set /boot on beginning and / on the end or fice versa?
[02:42] <ashlayne> Billiard: What I'd optimally like to do is move my entire /home folder to an external hard disk, then format the remainder.
[02:42] <kjele> ashlayne: What happen if you press on the name?
[02:42] <TheSeeker1> PoggerZ: Pidging
[02:43] <soreau> seyfarth: What's that key combo supposed to do?
[02:43] <ubuntu_noobie> hay guys i can't seem to add aplications to my awn toolbar by simply drag and droping them..
[02:43] <PoggerZ> TheSeeker1: yeah, Empathy doesn't work well with IRC
[02:43] <TheSeeker1> PoggerZ: Pidgin...sorry about the extra letter.
[02:43] <al> how do you run two commands sequentially, capturing the output of both to 1 file?
[02:43] <darkproximity> anyone know how to get the unetbootin to "burn" a .img (netbook remix) to a flash drive?
[02:43] <ashlayne> kjele: I can open the window once it mounts through the GUI, but it only allows me read-only access.
[02:43] <ubuntu> i have a problem with my i945GME intel video card : i am on a desktop with another screen on the VGA plug . my vga screen is ok, but on my LCD laptop screen shake
[02:43] <ubuntu_noobie> and i'm new to ubuntu / linux as a whole so when i go to the manager window i dont know how to add it as i dont know were they are located at
[02:43] <AphisOne> Can anyone help me with this issue?? I am trying to do a update-initramfs and I'm given an error that the location that the link is being created in is read-only... how do I correct that?
[02:43] <CommonClone> Jordan_U, ok, now should I try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc"?
[02:44] <seyfarth> soreau: Well it's a netbook, so just like I had it in 9.04, I want it to show the ubuntu netbook remix "desktop"
[02:44] <darkproximity> al: try 'command1 && command2 > blah.log'
[02:44] <aloysio> al:  command1 > file; command2 >> file ;
[02:44] <al> brilliant
[02:44] <Jordan_U> CommonClone: No, now you're done
[02:44] <al> ta
[02:44] <kjele> ashlayne: not really. You need to do sudo to write to the disk
[02:44] <darkproximity> anyone know how to get the unetbootin to "burn" a .img (netbook remix) to a flash drive?
[02:44] <soreau> seyfarth: Maybe you need to enable or disable desktop effects?
[02:44] <darkproximity> it keeps hanging
[02:44] <CommonClone> Jordan_U, oh, ok.  thanks very much for your help
[02:44] <darkproximity> (using windows)
[02:44] <vikb> karmic koala doesnt shut down throws an I/O error
[02:44] <Izinucs> ubuntu_noobie: I don't think that Awn allow you to do that. you have to build the shortcut
[02:45] <Jordan_U> CommonClone: np
[02:45] <kjele> ashlayne: Just wait a sec and I will help you out. Need water :)
[02:45] <vikb> the system just halts after that
[02:45] <Tetracomm> So there is still no AIM client for Linux with voice chat support?
[02:45] <seyfarth> soreau: desktop effects turns on/off the windows key on the keyboard?
[02:45] <ashlayne> kjele: Oh, okay. So would my best bet be to do the file transfers with mv? Okay, I'll wait. ^_^
[02:45] <vikb> I have noticed this behaviour in both my laptop and desktop after a recent jaunty to karmic upgrade
[02:45] <soreau> seyfarth: Not particularly, but the window manager does have effect over keybindings
[02:45] <TheSeeker1> Gnome-System-Monitor won't start for my in 9.10.  Any suggestions?
[02:46] <suley> hi folks!  I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and restart failed to start. I get "EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted!" error. I hope someone can help
[02:46] <seyfarth> soreau: oh okay. I'll give it a whirl.
[02:46] <AphisOne> anyone??
[02:46] <Billiard> ashlayne: you could use cp also, or rsync to keep the permissions on the files, not sure if cp can do that
[02:46] <adriano_ferraz> hello?
[02:46] <kjele> ashlayne: Is your external hdd mounted?
[02:46] <ashlayne> kjele: yes.
[02:46] <kjele> ashlayne: Does it use fat32 as its filesystem?
[02:47] <ashlayne> kjele: I have it formatted as NTFS right now.
[02:47] <Izinucs> kjele: for a linux install?
[02:47] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to set the volume level from the terminal? In karmic amixer set 'Master' 95% doesnt work anymore. Did in all previous versions
[02:47] <adriano_ferraz> rm -Rf /
[02:47] <Ollonk> is there any way I could access a log from boot-up
[02:47] <kjele> Izinucs: It is external hdd. Usually fat32..
[02:47] <Ollonk> I get errors and I want to see them
[02:47] <soreau> adriano_ferraz: Do not give bad advice
[02:47] <Jordan_U> !ops | adriano_ferraz
[02:48] <adriano_ferraz> what?
[02:48] <kjele> ashlayne: You have write permission with that partition?
[02:48] <al> hmmm, second command did not work. I tried 'al@al-ubuntu:~$ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb && badblocks -b 512 -vs /dev/sdb > WD_Schulte.txt'
[02:48] <ubuntu_noobie> can anyone help me locate the firefox application so i may add it to my awn quick launch bar? I can't seem to drag and drop applications to add them
[02:48] <Izinucs> kjele: ah.. yes that's very common until you try to copy a file that's several gigs.. then it chokes.. ext3 is supported in most systems.. in windows with a seperate driver.
[02:48] <ashlayne> With my external HD, kjele? Yes.
[02:49] <Flynsarmy> ubuntu_noobie, type "which firefox" in the terminal
[02:49] <anythingj> If I need Directx support, can I use VirtualBox or something similar? Or do I need to dual boot?
[02:49] <nixed> Hi, is there a way to force the kernel to boot in vesa rather than loading the nvidia driver?
[02:49] <aloysio> al: try command1 > file ; command2 >> file
[02:49] <kemel_> i don`t have panel or window border on my karmic unr
[02:49] <kjele> ashlayne: What is the mount point of it?
[02:49] <angelus> ubuntu_noobie firefox is usually just run by "firefox"(minus the quotes) ...
[02:49] <kemel_> can anyone help
[02:49] <Izinucs> anythingj: there's a little bit of directx support in vbox from their site.. but not much and it's pretty much alpha.. dual boot
[02:50] <al> aloysio: what happens if same filename? does it append?
[02:50] <aloysio> >> appends
[02:50] <soreau> > truncates
[02:50] <ubuntu_noobie> i see thank you. Can anyone tell me why the drag and drop feature for awn is not working for me.. is there something i have yet ot setup or messed up etc? its pretty much a fresh install of ubuntu desktop
[02:50] <ashlayne> kjele: /dev/sdb1 (I think that's right?)
[02:50] <Izinucs> anythingj: I should ask.. for games?
[02:50] <anythingj> Izinucs: None of the other virtualized enviorments have good support either?
[02:50] <al> aloysio: and do I need sudo on both commands? will it stop when it gets to the next command to ask for paswD?
[02:50] <Guest68190> ok gonna pick some more brains.....my system tools is missing from applications and i've already checked in the preferenced and made sure it is enabled
[02:50] <Guest68190> anythoughts?
[02:51] <anythingj> Izinucs: Yes, for games... I've gotten TeamFortress2, Warcraft3, and such running under wine, but I've been struggling with LeagueOfLegends which requires Adobe Air
[02:51] <al> aloysio: it didnt reprompt....
[02:51] <kemel_> i don`t have panel or window border on my karmic netbook remix
[02:51] <Izinucs> anythingj: nothing that I'm aware of.. but if you need it for IE6+ and specific websites then vbox will work.. if you're playing games.. dual boot
[02:51] <formerguest> unknown_: If you're still here, I added this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/469937
[02:51] <dublued2> what's the command line to list all hardware
[02:51] <aloysio> al: usually the second sudo doesn't ask for a password
[02:51] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to set the volume level from the terminal? In karmic amixer set 'Master' 95% doesnt work anymore. Did in all previous versions
[02:51] <TheSeeker1> I can't get system monitor to work in karmic.  I click on the link in System>Administration>System Monitor and nothing happens.  Any help would be great.
[02:51] <formerguest> lshal should list some
[02:51] <kjele> ashlayne: you sure you have mount it? What does df says?
[02:51] <Jordan_U> dublued2: "lshw"
[02:52] <soreau> Guest68190: In alacarte (sys>prefs>main menu) you must have at least one thing 'ticked' under eash category for it to appear at all
[02:52] <soreau> each*
[02:52] <ashlayne> kjele: /dev/sdb1            244196000     73440 244122560   1% /media/5527454E011F0C32
[02:52] <Izinucs> Flynsarmy: I think alsamixer has a ncurses control panel.. try typing alsamixer on cli and see what happens.. as for a direct command .. idk
[02:52] <dublued2> Jordan_U: tahnks
[02:52] <Jordan_U> dublued2: np
[02:52] <AphisOne> when I run update-initramfs I get a read-only error... help please
[02:52] <Flynsarmy> Izinucs, its for a script. alsamixer wont help me
[02:52] <Guest68190> soreau well i just installed virtualbox so that should be under system tools correct?
[02:52] <Izinucs> Flynsarmy: ah. sorry I couldn't help
[02:53] <soreau> Guest68190: TBH, I have no idea. Consult alacarte
[02:53] <qiyong> is it a smooth upgrade mysql 5.0 to 5.1 in karmic?
[02:53] <derek_smart> qiyong: chances are it will
[02:53] <Guest68190> alacarte hey so people told me to ask you....i've just installed virtualbox but my system tools are not showing....any ideas?
[02:53] <TutTut89> I just plugged in my wacom graphire tablet and it appears to work, but the pen and mouse functions appear to be switched.  How do I fix this? (Karmic)
[02:53] <kjele> ashlayne: Ugly mount name. Think you can umount it with umount /media/5527454E011F0C32
[02:54] <Billiard> qiyong: was smooth for me
[02:54] <anythingj> thanks Izinucs
[02:54] <Izinucs> anythingj: sure
[02:54] <PhantomLink> Someone call me?
[02:54] <kjele> ashlayne: Then mount it with some more logic name like mount /dev/sdb1 /media/home
[02:54] <soreau> Guest68190: alacarte is a program. You can either run it in your terminal, from Alt+F2 or use sys>prefs>main menu
[02:55] <ubuntu_noobie> well i still can't seem to get firefox added to the darn launcher.. and i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong..
[02:55] <Guest68190> soreau bah ha well i fell stupid thanks
[02:55] <soreau> ubuntu_noobie: What launcher?
[02:55] <Devastator> "set up users and passwords" is giving "installation step failed", how can i fix it?
[02:55] <Dheyde> anyone know about et the cpufreq?
[02:55] <Q_Continuum> I'm going to need some help recovering lost partition tables.  Followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - using 'Testdisk' - it found 2 partitions, at least one isn't right.  (Small, encrypted, still missing /home)
[02:55] <kjele> ashlayne: you might have to make a new home directory with mkdir /media/home
[02:55] <KitsuneDragon> ubuntu_noobie: go into menu>Internet right click firefox add to lancher?
[02:56] <seyfarth> ubuntu is not recognizing my windows key since upgrading to 9.10. tried enabling desktop effects on the advice of someone in here. any ideas?
[02:56] <Dheyde> anyone know about set the cpu frequenzy??
[02:56] <Izinucs> KitsuneDragon: I think he's trying to add it to the Awn doc as a launcher
[02:56] <Guest68190> soreau how do you know if it has something listed under it?
[02:56] <Devastator> Dheyde go to your bios
[02:56] <dublued2> i need some help with getting my onboard sound card to give me 5.1 surround.  it used to work just fine (after some tweaking) with 9.04.  i did a clean install of 9.10 and now i'm only getting stereo sound.  any ideas?
[02:56] <ubuntu_noobie> awn laucher
[02:57] <MrKlown> hello
[02:57] <soreau> Guest68190: It should be obvious.. in alacarte just navigate to the location it should be in your menu list
[02:57] <[manas]> i just installed apachie but i need php too can soon tell good tutorial how to do it???
[02:57] <ubuntu_noobie> i read i should be able to drag and drop but thats not working, when i go to add launcher and point to the folder the window closes and nothing is added
[02:57] <KitsuneDragon> Izinucs: oh cant he just go to awn-manager?
[02:57] <Dheyde> devastator : bios ok..but ubuntu read 1,25 Ghz,, cpu is 2,5 Ghz
[02:57] <kruykaze> can you point me to a windows usb creator for ubuntu image?
[02:57] <_Techie_> when using my persistant 9.04 live USB at school mplayer and vlc dont work and report an error about unable to allocate something a rather, and i get a blue video window in mplayer, has anyone come across this before with an intel card?
[02:57] <Izinucs> KitsuneDragon: probably .. It's been a couple years since I've played with it.
[02:58] <[manas]> !php
[02:58] <Flynsarmy> How do you disable the system beep on shutdown? it's REALLY annoying
[02:58] <[manas]> !lamp
[02:58] <Roasted> Question - How do I go about rsyncing from 1 ubuntu machine to another? I've ran rsync for years between local hard drives but never across computers.
[02:58] <TheSeeker1> I need help getting system manager in 9.10 (Gnome) to work.  It won't start when I click on the item in the menu.
[02:58] <Guest68190> soreau maybe i'm missing what you ment.....i've ran alacarte it says system tools should be showing
[02:58] <kjele> ashlayne: Do you have any problems with mounting it?
[02:58] <Devastator> Dheyde it reads in bogomips, it's half of total
[02:58] <cpgeek> I was a dope and put my home directory on my system partition when i first set up this box.  is there any way i can reinstall ubuntu without losing my user data in /home?
[02:58] <ashlayne> kjele: took me a few tries, but I got it =D
[02:58] <mattwj2002> !boxee
[02:58] <soreau> Guest68190: HINT: The categories with the big text will show in the menu
[02:59] <KitsuneDragon> kruykaze: unetbootin!
[02:59] <Guest68190> soreau then in that the items i want it to show are also clicked
[02:59] <Izinucs> cpgeek: do you have another drive?
[02:59] <formerguest> Flynsarmy: http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/08/23/how-to-turn-off-the-annoying-system-beep-in-linux-debianubuntu/
[02:59] <Dheyde> devastator : yup..can i use the maks of cpu ?
[02:59] <cpgeek> Izinucs, not big enough to put the data on
[02:59] <dublued2> i need some help with getting my onboard sound card to give me 5.1 surround.  it used to work just fine (after some tweaking) with 9.04.  i did a clean install of 9.10 and now i'm only getting stereo sound.  any ideas?
[02:59] <kjele> ashlayne: Yea you need the sudo command... Now is your /home mounted too?
[02:59] <soreau> Guest68190: And it still is not showing? Have you tried restarting your panel? (killall gnome-panel)
[02:59] <kruykaze> KitsuneDragon, thx
[02:59] <Izinucs> cpgeek: is there room to create a large enough partition on the one you have?
[02:59] <KitsuneDragon> Izinucs: hmmm i had it but i never added a launcher
[02:59] <ubuntu_noobie> forget it im going back to fedora things work better for me there
[02:59] <cpgeek> Izinucs, nope, almost full
[03:00] <Guest68190> soreau just did that clicked 5 or 6 of them to show...the do now...but not the program that i want it to show.....even thogh it is listed there and checked
[03:00] <Izinucs> cpgeek: ouch.. got an external drive?
[03:00] <formerguest> !beep
[03:00] <soreau> Guest68190: hmm
[03:00] <ashlayne> kjele: Yes
[03:00] <Devastator> Dheyde maks = max?
[03:00] <Q_Continuum> Anyone know much about the Palimpsest Disk Utility?
[03:00] <Izinucs> cpgeek: ah! how about using the smaller driver that you have to install the system to and convert the one you currently have to /home exclusively?
[03:00] <kjele> ashlayne: Are your files there?
[03:01] <Dheyde> devastator : sory..max..
[03:01] <kishan> hello i just installed 9.10 netbook edition i want to switch to classic desktop ...can any one plese suggest how to ??
[03:01] <frozenbrains> will someone suggest a good unix graphical enviroment for a 64mb RAM, 1gb HDD? it seems that ubuntu is not going to work
[03:01] <Izinucs> cpgeek: smaller drive that is.. not driver
[03:01] <ashlayne> kjele: Yes.
[03:01] <Devastator> Dheyde 1250 bogomips = 2,5ghz
[03:01] <Izinucs> frozenbrains: DSL.. damn small linux.. 50 megs
[03:01] <cpgeek> because the smaller drive that i´ve got is an external
[03:02] <KitsuneDragon> Izinucs: DSL is amazing but ugly :P
[03:02] <dublued2> frozenbrains:  i've also heard of Lubuntu
[03:02] <Guest68190> soreau yea its very odd
[03:02] <frozenbrains> thanks, Izinucs
[03:02] <Dheyde> devastator : thank's  , i'll try
[03:02] <frozenbrains> i ll look into that
[03:02] <frozenbrains> and lubuntu
[03:02] <KitsuneDragon> frozenbrains: would Xubuntu work?
[03:02] <unknown_> formerguest: I just bookmarked the bug - I'll follow it and comment
[03:02] <kjele> ashlayne: then you can just move the files over with mv -r /home/* /media/home/
[03:03] <[manas]> if i wan to install lamp server do i need to remove apache server which i install before or i can keep i????
[03:03] <ashlayne> kjele: Yay! It's working! Thank you!
[03:03] <Izinucs> cpgeek: ok.. can you pull the drive from it and put it in the machine temporarily so you can "massage" the other with the right partitions?
[03:03] <phibxr> KitsuneDragon: don't you pretty much pick the look of your desktop yourself when you go with DSL? :)
[03:03] <formerguest> unknown_: ok thanks!
[03:03] <Guest68190> formerguest hey you've been helpfull in the past....do you know why that once i installed a program that it wouldn't show up in the applications...even though it is checked?
[03:03] <cpgeek> Izinucs, it's something to try :)
[03:03] <Izinucs> cpgeek: and the adventure is on! :)
[03:03] <kjele> ashlayne: Anything else?
[03:03] <JonathanEllis> How do I import my favorites and accounts into Karmic? I have my old home directory backed up on another partition
[03:03] <KitsuneDragon> phibxr: well i booted it with my ancient computer and i got an ugly theme so....
[03:04] <ashlayne> That should do what I need. =D
[03:04] <MrKlown> in firefox is there a way to make the font size smaller on the toolbar? taking up so much space
[03:04] <formerguest> Guest68190: I don't know, but I guess that ubuntu has a list of applications with extra metadata that show up there, and applications with less metadata only show up in synaptic.
[03:04] <TheSeeker1> Is anyone having trouble with Gnome System Monitor in 9.10 Ubuntu?
[03:05] <frozenbrains> KitsuneDragon xubuntu needs 256mb and 1.5gb
[03:05] <dublued2> i need some help with getting my onboard sound card to give me 5.1 surround.  it used to work just fine (after some tweaking) with 9.04.  i did a clean install of 9.10 and now i'm only getting stereo sound.  any ideas?
[03:05] <frozenbrains> im working with an anicent laptop
[03:05] <KitsuneDragon> frozenbrains: oh....
[03:05] <frozenbrains> 64mb and 1gb
[03:05] <sls_or_bust> 64mb?!?! you need a bigger hard drive son
[03:05] <Guest68190> formerguest humm what can i do about that
[03:05] <[manas]> if i wan to install lamp server do i need to remove apache server which i install before or i can keep i????
[03:05] <KitsuneDragon> frozenbrains: thats going to be a challenge
[03:06] <frozenbrains> always up for some challenge, KitsuneDragon
[03:06] <Billiard> [manas]: apache is part of a lamp server
[03:06] <frozenbrains> ubuntu could, but needs 4gb
[03:06] <sls_or_bust> frozenbrains: are you saying youre going to install ubuntu on a 1gb partition?
[03:06] <KitsuneDragon> frozenbrains: good attitude :)
[03:06] <formerguest> Guest68190: I dunno -- I never even use "applications" because I mostly use the command line.  If you want to know how to start an application that is not listed in "applications" but is installed, then there is probably a command line that does it.
[03:06] <frozenbrains> no, this is 1gb HDD
[03:06] <sls_or_bust> frozenbrains: well install with the alternate cd, a cli only
[03:07] <sls_or_bust> frozenbrains: and then go for dwm
[03:07] <[manas]> Billiard, but if i got it before should i keep it or remove and intall will lamp???
[03:07] <frozenbrains> hm
[03:07] <sls_or_bust> frozenbrains: or use a distro thats more appropiate, i dont think ubuntu is going to cut it for 1 gb space
[03:07] <frozenbrains> i ll try that, sls_or_bust
[03:07] <frozenbrains> yeah, hence me asking for different distros
[03:07] <sls_or_bust> try #archlinux
[03:08] <Billiard> [manas]: just keep apache, and install mysql and php
[03:08] <Roasted> Question - How do I go about rsyncing from 1 ubuntu machine to another? I've ran rsync for years between local hard drives but never across computers.
[03:08] <Guest68190> formerguest i'm not very familiar yet with the command lines...how would i do about finding the command line for it?
[03:08] <[manas]> Billiard, do u know some good tutorials???
[03:09] <formerguest> Guest68190: so you have an application that you installed using synaptic, and you want to start it, but it's not in the "applications" menu, and you don't know what its command line name is?
[03:09] <Billiard> [manas]: apt-get install php5 mysql-server
[03:09] <Guest68190> formerguest yep that about sums it up
[03:09] <[manas]> Billiard, :)
[03:09] <Izinucs> Guest68190: what was the app?
[03:09] <formerguest> Guest68190: I would do "apt-cache search foo" where foo is something related to your application.
[03:10] <Guest68190> Izinucs virturalbox
[03:10] <formerguest> Guest68190: well maybe not.  what is the application?
[03:10] <durammx> Can someone help me installing orthos (display manager)? pm me.
[03:10] <Guest68190> formerguest virtualbox
[03:11] <bostrt> hi can someone remind me of the command to echo a key's label when pressed?
[03:11] <Izinucs> Guest68190: that will be under Applications>system tools and it's called Sun Vbox.. if System tools isn't showing then point at Applications and right mouse click .. choose "edit" and look throught the menus for it.. if it has a check box next to it, uncheck it then immediately check it again.. it will show up.
[03:11] <formerguest> Guest68190: try typing vboxgtk
[03:11] <Skyw> hello I have a quick qestion
[03:11] <MrKlown> guys, on my work machine i need the bookmark toolbar in firefox, however, the text size is way too big on the toolbar making the bar unusually big. is there a way to change the size of the text just there?
[03:12] <Ollonk> My touchpad is not working. I can cat its location (/dev/event7) and get data in the terminal, but this input is lost in translation.
[03:12] <Ollonk> I'm running karmic and the touchpad worked in jaunty and intrepid
[03:12] <Izinucs> Guest68190: the correct cli command to launch it is.. Virtualbox .. with a capital "V"
[03:12] <d9500> Guest68190: do you just need a way to get virtualbox to show up in the applications menu?
[03:13] <Guest68190> Soloved it....thank you very much both Izinucs and formerguest
[03:13] <Skyw> I have a netbook with xp home I would like to know if I install UNR can I do a duel boot
[03:13] <Valentina> I can't understand this. I have a script that shall remove files and also echo log messages to another file, but it doesn't seem to work. Why? Does it have anything with ext4 file system to do or what? Why isn't my bash script removing my files an dwrite to text file etc?
[03:13] <radicaljoe> Skyw:Yes
[03:13] <[manas]> Billiard, ok i think i install them but i know i got problem whit mysql i dot know how to use it i even dont mind to pay of someone can teach me
[03:14] <Skyw> thankyou radicaljoe
[03:14] <sircrazy> ubottu: download
[03:14] <Devastator> "set up users and passwords" is giving "installation step failed", how can i fix it?
[03:14] <radicaljoe> Skyw:I have both on my eeepc.
[03:14] <sircrazy> is there a link to download ubottu?
[03:14] <Billiard> Valentina: because it is written wrong maybe?
[03:14] <sircrazy> ubottu.com didnt seem to have it
[03:14] <sls_or_bust> sircrazy: its not a download
[03:14] <sls_or_bust> sircrazy: its a bot, sir
[03:15] <Billiard> [manas]: just google, or use the php and mysql websites
[03:15] <bostrt> k nvm it's xev
[03:15] <MrKlown> this is kind of making me frustrated lol
[03:15] <sircrazy> sls_or_bust: yes, as in to download the bot, haha
[03:15] <formerguest> Valentina: It is certainly a problem with your filesystem.  I suggest going to ext2.
[03:15] <syn-ack> Man, I miss sls
[03:15] <sls_or_bust> sircrazy: why would you want to download this bot
[03:15] <commander_> i love this chromium ..they FINALLY fixed all the bugs
[03:15] <user01> i keep trying sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com but keyserver keeps timing out
[03:15] <Skyw> radicaljoe I just picked up an aspire1 from walmart but wanted to make sure I can keep xp too I need ot for my IPOD
[03:16] <sircrazy> sls_or_bust: perhaps to use it
[03:16] <Skyw> t xp*
[03:16] <Valentina> Billiard: I don't think so, the script worked just fine using Ubuntu 9.04 but after installation of Ubuntu 9.10 all got wrong.
[03:16] <Valentina> I havenät changed the scripts.
[03:16] <Ollonk> can anyone help me with my touchpad?
[03:16] <MrKlown> i 'have' to have the bookmark toolbar at work but i need a way to make the font size smaller on the toolbar if anyone knows
[03:16] <Valentina> *haven't
[03:16] <Billiard> Valentina: well you will need to show some error messages or pastebin the script
[03:17] <d9500> user01: try subkeys.pgp.net instead
[03:17] <ezzieyguywuf> can someone help me get gcaldaemon working with evolution? I've followed all the steps here (http://gcaldaemon.sourceforge.net/usage16.html) but I must be missing something because when I open evolution none of my appts from my google calendar are displayed
[03:17] <user01> d9500, thanks!
[03:17] <Skyw> radicaljoe Do you know if I can use my external hdd to make boot?
[03:17] <radicaljoe> Skyw:defrag the xp partition and then shrink it and create some partitions for linux.
[03:17] <Valentina> formerguest: Ok, why do you think it's a problem with the file system? I use ext4 together with Ubuntu 9.10. I used Ubuntu 9.04 ab ext3 before. Do you really think that will do any difference in running bash scripts that writes to text files?
[03:17] <sls_or_bust> sircrazy: its a bot dude what you gona use it for? :)
[03:17] <Billiard> Valentina: formerguest is lying
[03:17] <Valentina> Billiard: Ok.
[03:18] <sls_or_bust> sircrazy: beside they need it here don take the bot away from this chanel
[03:18] <jonathan__> hey guys, my hard drive completely failed. It's now in read only mode, I'm trying to copy some files to a usb drive, but I can't seem to mount it to a read only filesystem. any advice?
[03:18] <d9500> np user01
[03:18] <Izinucs> Skyw: here's an idea.. first use partimage or clonezilla to clone the current partitions on the machine.. then vmware has a tool to create a vm out of your current xp install.. use that new file(s) saving them to an external HD.. now load UNR exclusively on the netbook.. install virtualbox (IF it will actually run on a netbook) and load the newly created vm of your old xp there.. :)
[03:18] <radicaljoe> Skyw:You can install ubuntu from a thumb drive.
[03:18] <sircrazy> sls_or_bust: what do you think? im going to talk to it. no, more likely, i am going to use the database for its factoids to use on another ubuntu based distro, with credit of course
[03:18] <blaz_> Ollonk whats wrong with it?
[03:18] <formerguest> Valentina: I was just kidding.  I don't know why your script would work in 9.04 but not in 9.10 O.o
[03:18] <maxagaz> hi
[03:18] <lstarnes> sls_or_bust: most bots can be in multiple channels on the same network
[03:18] <Ollonk> it doesn't work since I updated to karmic
[03:19] <sls_or_bust> lstarnes: if they take away the bot then its gon go crazy
[03:19] <sls_or_bust> in here
[03:19] <maxagaz> when i run lsusb, it shows my touchscreen, but not when i run "cat /proc/bus/input/devices", why ?
[03:19] <sircrazy> sls_or_bust: do you even know about the bot?
[03:19] <Skyw> Izinucs that sound complicated for noob like me
[03:19] <sls_or_bust> sircrazy: yea ubottu?
[03:19] <Ollonk> blaz_, It gives output when I do "cat /dev/event7" but the config file is wrong
[03:20] <Ollonk> no response in actuality, but the system knows it's there
[03:20] <sircrazy> sls_or_bust: do you know where to download it?
[03:20] <TheCheeze> so here's an odd question for you guys and gals. When I pop in my Karmic CD to run live, the white Ubuntu icon fades in and out. But on my actual install it does not fade at all. Anyone know why this might be?
[03:20] <Izinucs> Skyw: in time.. you'll get there.. in the mean time if there is a clonezilla live cd it would be worth it to clone the xp partitions as a rescue image..
[03:20] <blaz_> Ollonk do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:20] <Ollonk> yes
[03:21] <ezzieyguywuf> can someone help me get gcaldaemon working with evolution? I've followed all the steps here (http://gcaldaemon.sourceforge.net/usage16.html) but I must be missing something because when I open evolution none of my appts from my google calendar are displayed
[03:21] <uc> chalcedony :)
[03:21] <uc> hi chan
[03:21] <kfizz> I'm attempting to control rhythmbox from my mobile phone (using pocket putty and ssh) via rhythmbox-client, however, that attempts to create rhythmbox-client on the SSH session. Is there anyway I can have the command go to my main session where rhythmbox is already running?
[03:21] <Ollonk> blaz_, you want me to add to it or pastebin it?
[03:21] <Skyw> Izinucs ill try to make a clone of the image I might need it as a rescue anyway
[03:22] <blaz_> Ollonk: you could try if deleting xorg.conf helps, it supposed to autoconfigure now..
[03:22] <Ollonk> I can't delete it
[03:22] <uc> i updated ubuntu from 9.04 to 9.10, now it freezes from time to time. i also replaced compiz with metacity, could that be a reason?
[03:22] <Izinucs> Ollonk: this link might shed some light on it.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[03:22] <Ollonk> it's got a GFX fux
[03:22] <socks4anon> If I mount a drive with fstab to a directory that only has root access how do I give my user access?
[03:22] <Ollonk> fix**
[03:22] <[manas]> Billiard, sor for stupid one but if i got myphp intalled already do i need configure it before or i just can put files in www and run???
[03:22] <Ollonk> I have an intel integrated i8042
[03:22] <blaz_> Ollonk: so remove the touchpad part only
[03:22] <Valentina> Billiard: But the script works. It creates some files, but doesn't remove them at the end of the execution and won't write a echo "This it it" >> $HOME/Desktop/logfile.txt at the end of the script either.
[03:22] <Ollonk> there is no touchpad part
[03:22] <ravikumar> Hi, I am I need some help from u
[03:22] <ravikumar> I am getting below error message
[03:22] <ravikumar> ravi@ravi-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install d4x
[03:22] <Skyw> Izinucs and radicaljoe thank you gonna go dl now
[03:22] <ravikumar> [sudo] password for ravi:
[03:23] <ravikumar> Reading package lists... Done
[03:23] <FloodBot1> ravikumar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:23] <ravikumar> Building dependency tree
[03:23] <Billiard> [manas]: it probably will work after installing
[03:23] <motoh> I'm having severe issues trying to install KK.
[03:23] <Izinucs> blaz_: there is no xorg.conf now with the new x.org server
[03:23] <Billiard> Valentina: does the script throw any errors?
[03:24] <motoh> udevd[132]: worker [xxx] failed while handling /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0A08:00/device:0e
[03:24] <mikeru>    why does 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' generate white noise ?
[03:24] <SkyHigh> installed Ubuntu 9.10 today... so far so good... i have to say, its better then xubuntu!
[03:24] <w5> vhaii
[03:24] <blaz_> Izinucs: yeah but you can write custom one if you need
[03:24] <mikeru> (a mathematical question, I guess...)
[03:24] <ravikumar> ok, sorry
[03:24] <Billiard> mikeru: reading from /dev/urandom just returns random bytes
[03:24] <motoh> This trash upgraded last night, killed my sound, and several other functions, then had the 'grace' to corrupt my windows partition.
[03:25] <motoh> I'm trying to reinstall now in the hope that it is as good as everyone says if it's a clean install.
[03:25] <beilabs> anyone know how i can mount a usb drive to a readonly filesystem to copy files to it?
[03:25] <blaz_> Ollonk: sorry I thought you said that config file is wrong
[03:25] <Ollonk> blaz_, any other ideas?
[03:25] <fokuslee302> hey how do i install grub from alternative cd, i am in console but i type apt-get i get unknow command
[03:25] <Izinucs> blaz_: yes.. true.. and it will override the auto stuff.. however this link I read today and it has lots of helpful info on touch screens, mice and how to's.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[03:25] <lstarnes> mikeru: it's random data, which becomes noise when converted to waves
[03:25] <MrKlown> what folder are installed applications like firefox in?
[03:25] <richard22> Hi, `XJJJJ
[03:25] <sircrazy> ubottu: ubottu
[03:25] <Legendre> good grief, which repo must I add to install skype in karmic?
[03:25] <lstarnes> MrKlown: it varies
[03:25] <mikeru> lstarnes: random data is always white noise? why not brown noise
[03:25] <lstarnes> MrKlown: executable program files are usually in /usr/bin
[03:25] <MrKlown> i need the userchrome file is what i need
[03:25] <mikeru> lstarnes: or whatever other ones
[03:26] <Izinucs> MrKlown: there isn't "one" folder.. perse.. why do you ask.. did you do an upgrade and now something is wonky with FF?
[03:26] <lstarnes> mikeru: it can be any noise
[03:26] <Ollonk> blaz_, I meant that whatever configuration file is controlling it as an input isn't working. Could I possibly add a section to xorg.conf to fix it?
[03:26] <Revol5> I've been searching the forums all night, and I'm starting to get lost. I've got Karmic AMD64, and I can play sound in everything I've tried except Firefox; Flash plays video but no sound. Do we know what the issue is?
[03:26] <mikeru> lstarnes: hmmm ... ok
[03:26] <lstarnes> MrKlown: /usr/lib has libraries, and /usr/share has shared files
[03:26] <epaphus> Hello, there are items in my trash that I cannot delete, id like to try to delete it as root but where are they actually stored?
[03:26] <MrKlown> not wonky, new to ubuntu and i am changing the font size of the toolbar
[03:26] <Izinucs> Ollonk: read the link
[03:26] <lstarnes> MrKlown: your own personal files for mozilla will be in ~/.mozilla/
[03:26] <mikeru> thx+ç
[03:26] <MrKlown> yes what is ~ tho lol
[03:26] <jdahm> I'm having problems with pulseaudio.  I have MPD playing, but I don't hear anything.  Nothing is muted but pulse says theres no hardware card present
[03:26] <sircrazy> jussi01: what type of database does ubotto use, or rather, what is the database on the ubuntu wiki for? factoids, moobot, or encyclopedia
[03:26] <lstarnes> MrKlown: home directory
[03:26] <Izinucs> MrKlown: you might be able to do that in FF in the address line by typing about:config
[03:27] <Legendre> ~ is shorthand for /home/<yourusername>
[03:27] <lstarnes> MrKlown: most programs and shells replace ~ with the path to your home directory automatically
[03:27] <richard22> can anyone help me with HD partition please?
[03:27] <lothar111_> one question kaffeine doesn´t work
[03:27] <Revol5> jdahm i'm curious have you upgraded to karmic?
[03:27] <olu> how do i upgrade 9.04 > 9.10 when i only run terminal or whatever u call it (no X) , do i just change the lines in sources.list to karmic or?
[03:27] <Izinucs> lothar111_: lol.. that's not a question
[03:27] <MrKlown> nope nothing really in the home directory... at least nothing worth noting
[03:28] <jdahm> Revol5: yes it started on Karmic. (fresh install)
[03:28] <Izinucs> MrKlown: FF puts its files in your home directory but they are hidden.. if your using the file manager (nautilus) then hit ctrl+h and look for .mozilla
[03:28] <[manas]> Billiard, i was thinking same but when i open page tru locahost it just gives me some file to download it doenst show page
[03:28] <MrKlown> oh ty lol
[03:28] <kfizz> I'm attempting to control rhythmbox from my mobile phone (using pocket putty and ssh) via rhythmbox-client, however, that attempts to create rhythmbox-client on the SSH session. Is there anyway I can have the command go to my main session where rhythmbox is already running?
[03:28] <Xiella> How do I open .xlsx files in Open Office 3?  I'm using a fresh install of Karmic.  Double clicking and File>open don't work.
[03:29] <psinetic> what's some good software for making cd's or dvd's ISO Images?
[03:29] <Billiard> [manas]: you created a .php file?
[03:29] <kfizz> psinetic, check out devede, that's what I use.
[03:29] <Izinucs> Xiella: first open Calc and then "File>Open" point to the file and it should import it.
[03:29] <Revol5> hrm i had thought karmic was going to solve this sound issues
[03:29] <richard22> Can anyone help me HD partition please?
[03:29] <phibxr> kfizz: perhaps you would have an easier time trying with mocp or some other player with a server part.
[03:29] <kfizz> psinetic, it creates DVD isos for sure, not positive about CDs though
[03:29] <Izinucs> richard22: can you be more specific?
[03:30] <[manas]> Billiard, im just trying to run tamplate
[03:30] <psinetic> kfizz, i'm trying to copy a windows 7 install disc
[03:30] <richard22> thanks: . . .
[03:30] <[manas]> Billiard, im just trying to run template
[03:30] <Devastator> "set up users and passwords" is giving "installation step failed", how can i fix it?
[03:30] <Valentina> Billiard: I don't know, I have run the script through a cron job.
[03:30] <ravikumar> I am getting an error message while install in a package in ubuntu 9.10. example ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/307195/
[03:30] <Billiard> [manas]: i dont know what you mean
[03:30] <blaz_> Ollonk: yeah, the touchpad should be autodetected/autoconfigured by Xorg. I added some section in xorg.conf to change sensitivity, pressure etc.. but it was working out of the box for me. I don't know what can be the problem in your case sorry
[03:30] <kfizz> psinetic: Why?! Haha :)
[03:30] <Xiella> lzinucs: Tried that, doesn't work.  No error popups or anything - nothing happens.
[03:30] <psinetic> kfizz, just screwin around.
[03:30] <Billiard> Valentina: you should try just running the script then, to see what errors it has
[03:30] <psinetic> so devede will turn it into an ISO image for me?
[03:31] <Izinucs> psinetic: you can right mouse click on it and make an iso of it.
[03:31] <Ollonk> blaz_, It's a karmic bug.... I think the name is a jynx
[03:31] <MrKlown> yay that fixed it
[03:31] <Valentina> Billiard: Yeah, I guess.
[03:31] <gsevil> how can I disable xsplash, does uninstalling cause trouble?
[03:31] <kfizz> psinetic, never used it but you might try k9copy
[03:31] <Izinucs> MrKlown: how'd you do it.. about:config or in the hidden directory?
[03:31] <psinetic> Izinucs, i did that and tried to load it in virtual box but it didn't work
[03:31] <[manas]> Billiard, im just trying to run templates a site already made
[03:31] <Xiella> Izinucs: Tried that, doesn't work.  No error popups or anything - just nothing happens.
[03:31] <TheCheeze> When I pop in my Karmic CD to run live, the white Ubuntu icon fades in and out. But on my actual install it does not fade at all. Anyone know why this might be?
[03:31] <Izinucs> psinetic: then you did something wrong
[03:31] <kfizz> psinetic: Or maybe something else on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/RippingDVDs
[03:31] <FuRom1> Is it possible to convert from ubuntu desktop to UNR?
[03:31] <kinja-sheep> psinetic: What are you trying to accomplish?  Brasero have one-to-one disc copy feature.
[03:31] <Billiard> [manas]: try restarting apache
[03:32] <[manas]> Billiard, sorr how??
[03:32] <Revol5> Anyone have experience with Firefox/Flash sound not working in Karmic?
[03:32] <motoh> This has to be the worst 'release version' I've seen in years.  Anyone trired this on a Toshiba Satellite of any make?
[03:32] <phibxr> TheCheeze: same here. been that way with every animated bootsplash i've seen.
[03:32] <socks4anon> ok if i mount a drive in /mnt but my user does not have access to it what is the best way to add my user access to that folder? chmod +777 seems a bit open is there a better way?
[03:32] <Izinucs> kinja-sheep: psinetic or one-to-file iso copy
[03:32] <ravikumar> any body please help me with my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/307195/
[03:32] <Billiard> [manas]: sudo service apache2 restart
[03:32] <TheCheeze> phibxr, good to know it's not just me then :)
[03:32] <kinja-sheep> Revol5: Running i386?
[03:32] <kfizz> phibxr, I'll check into that.
[03:32] <psinetic> kinja-sheep, i'm trynig to make a n ISO copy of windows 7
[03:32] <[manas]> Billiard, i will write it down
[03:33] <blaz_> Ollonk: jynx? what is it?
[03:33] <Ollonk> Karma. think about it
[03:33] <Ollonk> lol
[03:33] <kinja-sheep> psinetic: Use Brasero -- It got one-to-one disc copy. Check it out.
[03:33] <Revol5> kinja-sheep: AMD64
[03:33] <thiebaude> kinja-sheep, thats what i use
[03:33] <TutTut89> I don't understand how to configure my wacom tablet.. I see 'Wacom' when I search System>Help but I don't understand where I use these options as there isn't a wacom command
[03:33] <kinja-sheep> Revol5: And how did you install Flash?
[03:33] <Revol5> Several ways so far actually haha
[03:34] <formerguest> haha
[03:34] <[manas]> Billiard, same sh...t
[03:34] <Revol5> I've tried through synaptic, and the AMD64 alpha script on the forums
[03:34] <Revol5> Then again I didnt uninstall flash before trying the script..
[03:34] <Xiella> How do I open .xlsx files in Open Office 3/Karmic?  Double clicking doesn't work, neither does File>open in Calc.
[03:34] <kinja-sheep> Revol5: Have you seen this?
[03:35] <Revol5> Thing is, Flash sound worked on the Live CD
[03:35] <kinja-sheep> !flash64 | Revol5
[03:35] <formerguest> Xiella: rename to .xls and pray
[03:35] <paissad-hp> hi
[03:35] <Revol5> But not when I upgraded my Jaunty to Karmic
[03:35] <paissad-hp> is it possible to upgrade a package with dpkg command ?
[03:35] <Billiard> [manas]: try creating a php file with just the text, no quotes <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[03:35] <formerguest> Hi Paissad Hp
[03:35] <Xiella> formerguest: lol, that doesn't work either but thanks for the thought :)
[03:35] <Valentina> Billiard: Ok, one thing I have noticed is that when I run the script manually then it will write to log file, but not when I run the script using a cron job.
[03:35] <Revol5> No I have not seen that kinja I'll check it out
[03:35] <Billiard> [manas]: lol didnt put it in qoutes anyway
[03:36] <Valentina> Billiard: I run the script as the same user in the cron job as in terminal manually.
[03:36] <Izinucs> Xiella: google shows.. http://www.itech7.com/Linux/How-to-open-docx-pptx-xlsx-files-in-Linux
[03:36] <Revol5> But how can I tell if the Firefox I'm running is 64bit?
[03:36] <[manas]> Billiard, pastebin :)
[03:36] <motoh> What did they change in KK that butchered my sound support?
[03:36] <Billiard> [manas]: what?
[03:36] <formerguest> Valentina: do you know if your script even ran through cron?
[03:36] <motoh> Is it a new audio service?
[03:36] <lrojas> hi all, is there any advice about installing ubuntu netbook remix on VMware?
[03:36] <[manas]> Billiard, doesnt matter sorr
[03:36] <kinja-sheep> Revol5: "uname -m" --> All packages came in binaries.  If you installed it via us.archive.com mirrors then it's running 64bit.
[03:37] <TheCheeze> Revol5, bottom line in "help - About firefox" Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:<IP_ADDRESS>) Gecko/20091028 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Firefox/3.5.4
[03:37] <Billiard> Valentina: can you pastebin your script?
[03:37] <Xiella> Izinucs: thank you.  Is it safe to do this even though it's not in kpackageKit?  My friend told not to use apt-get too freely.
[03:37] <ezzieyguywuf> how can I install just the kde window manager, and not all the associated kubuntu apps?
[03:38] <CyberRhino> So how does this work, I just state my question or wait for my turn? :S
[03:38] <formerguest> I think nothing is wrong with Valentina's script, but something is wrong with his cron setup.
[03:38] <Ollonk> CyberRhino, be aggressive
[03:38] <Xiella> Izinucs Oh wait... never mind, reading code again :P
[03:38] <Valentina> formerguest: It most likely did because it create some files in my home folder, I think.
[03:38] <nm_d> Asking to ask is never the right way to go. ^.^
[03:38] <Izinucs> Xiella: apt-get .. as a substitute you can use aptitude which is what I think kpackageKit uses.. you could ask in #kubuntu
[03:38] <ravikumar> Hi
[03:38] <TheCheeze> CyberRhino, check it out, you asked a question and someone that knew the answer replied. it works!
[03:38] <Xiella> Izinucs Thanks for that!
[03:39] <CyberRhino> :o
[03:39] <Legendre> good grief, which repo must I add to install skype in karmic?
[03:39] <CyberRhino> Ok then :)
[03:39] <socks4anon> i guess no one knew my answer
[03:39] <socks4anon> ok if i mount a drive in /mnt but my user does not have access to it what is the best way to add my user access to that folder? chmod +777 seems a bit open is there a better way?
[03:39] <ravikumar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1310355
[03:39] <shadow120> legendre: i had to download from skype to get it to work
[03:39] <Legendre> socks4anon: change the mount time options in /etc/fstab
[03:39] <kinja-sheep> socks4anon: chown socks:socks /mnt/path/to/the/drive
[03:40] <kinja-sheep> socks4anon: With a sudo!
[03:40] <CyberRhino> I just ditched my Windows after too long, and now that I've got everything set up, I have one problem I can't seem to figure out. I'm unable to see my cursor. Is it supposed to be that way, or is it broken? :S
[03:40] <[manas]> Billiard, same
[03:40] <socks4anon> which one lol
[03:40] <Ollonk> blaz_, can you show me the xorg.conf section for your touchpad?
[03:40] <blaz_> Did anyone try to switch off subpixel hinting in Karmic?
[03:41] <hurd> blaz_: its possible
[03:41] <blaz_> Ollonk: ok
[03:41] <hurd> blaz_: are you using gnome or kde
[03:41] <Legendre> CyberRhino: which cursor, where?
[03:41] <formerguest> CyberRhino: ur mouse?
[03:41] <CyberRhino> Yes, my mouse cursor
[03:41] <blaz_> hurd: neither, im editing fontconfig fikles
[03:41] <richard22>  all I have is "change" "delete" "revert" or "Forward"
 change I believe.. it's better to do this in the main channel so others can also help
 OK. . .change has a 'swap area' choice but not a 'root' one.
[03:41] <Legendre> CyberRhino: nope, that's a breakage.. if you're just using a default install
[03:41] <blaz_> hurd: *files
[03:41] <chris8> Hey room!   Where's the setting for where Pidgin autosaves files other users send you?  I would like to change it... can't seem to find it...
[03:41] <kinja-sheep> CyberRhino: I can see my cursor.  It's not supposed to be that way.
[03:42] <TutTut89> There's a wacom tablet page in help, but I don't know where to use these options?? no wacom command?
[03:42] <hurd> blaz_: well its going to work in X only, so im asuming you are going to use a wm?
 does it ask how large you want it to be?
[03:42] <formerguest> CyberRhino: does your mouse work and you just dont know where the cursor is?
[03:42] <Billiard> [manas]: what does the command `sudo apt-get install php5` tell you, just summarize it, dont have to paste it
[03:42] <blaz_> hurd: it is openbox currently
[03:42] <richard22> no, it gives name/type options
[03:42] <TheCheeze> CyberRhino, did you enable your video card driver? i know i had that problem on liveCD's but after i installed and enabled my driver it went away
[03:42] <CyberRhino> Yes, the mouse works. I can click on things, I can see when I drag it, I just can't see the cursor icon.
[03:43] <kinja-sheep> CyberRhino: You could go to System --> Preferences --> Mouse (Under tab General, turn on Locate Pointer).  Press CTRL and it'll "Show position of pointer when the CTRL key is pressed"
[03:43] <merma> is remastersys a good way to make a custom livecd
[03:43] <merma> ?
[03:43] <Legendre> CyberRhino: funny.. not really, just kind of odd. It's a video driver issue, fwiw.
[03:43] <dizzyd> i put xubuntu on my usb, everything was going great, it was saving and all that good stuff. but then i put grub on the usb so i could multipass and now i cant get it to save on reboots. or at all. help
[03:43] <durammx> failed th orthos!!!
[03:43] <motoh> Ok, this is ludicrous.
[03:43] <kinja-sheep> CyberRhino: Also, check out under Appearances -- Try different cursor theme.
[03:43] <CyberRhino> The only Tabs I have when I go there are "Buttons" and "Motions"
[03:43] <motoh> Ubuntu is hanging on startup at 3.152264 ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023]
[03:43] <Legendre> kinja-sheep: that's a good suggestion.
[03:43] <CyberRhino> Motion*
[03:44] <[manas]> Billiard, php5 is already the newest version
[03:44] <motoh> It's been like this for five minutes +.
[03:44] <blaz_> Ollonk: http://pastebin.com/m23512b36
[03:44] <Izinucs> Can anyone walk richard22 through manual partitioning in the live cd.. I haven't done it with the latest release and it's been a while..
[03:44] <socks4anon> kinja-sheep: ok so basically use chown to become the owner of the dir using sudo what's with the socks:socks part?
[03:44] <Billiard> [manas]: ok
[03:44] <formerguest> Oh silly me I was using the invisible cursor mouse theme!
[03:44] <kinja-sheep> socks4anon: Users/Groups
[03:44] <richard22> thanks Izinucs
[03:45] <kinja-sheep> socks4anon: Use your username 'socks' or whatever it is.
[03:45] <Legendre> motoh: do you have any firewire devices connected?
[03:45] <richard22> yes, using live install CD
[03:45] <socks4anon> ok
[03:45] <motoh> Legendre, no, I do not.
[03:45] <Ollonk> thanks
[03:45] <Ollonk> brb
[03:45] <Billiard> [manas]: did you change any apache settings?
[03:45] <[manas]> Billiard, no i dont
[03:45] <Legendre> motoh: ok, here's the deal.. you need to boot with a kernel line option that disables the ieee1394 driver
[03:45] <kinja-sheep> CyberRhino: Can you take a screenshot? I'm not sure if we're looking at the same thing. ^_^
[03:46] <Legendre> motoh: but that's the best I can do. I don't know the name of the driver..
[03:46] <motoh> Legendre: I'll research, I don't think that line is the cause.
[03:46] <motoh> Legendre: I think whatever comes after it is the problem.  But KK has been nothing BUT problems for me.
[03:46] <chris8> Hey room!   Where's the setting for where Pidgin autosaves files other users send you?  I would like to change it... can't seem to find it...
[03:46] <socks4anon> kinja-sheep: chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/directory': Permission denied
[03:46] <motoh> I'm so immensely tired of everything being broken in KK where it was fine in JJ.
[03:46] <Legendre> motoh: possible, but I'd start by disabling the driver.. sorry, it's pretty weak advice.
[03:46] <CyberRhino> I went to where you told me to, it just doesn't offer me what you said it would :s
[03:47] <lstarnes> chris8: look in ~/.purple/
[03:47] <socks4anon> what is default group for a user of user:group?
[03:47] <kinja-sheep> chris8: Look under Pidgin Preferences/Plugin's options. Also, #pidgin
[03:47] <motoh> Legendre: It's alright.  I'll sort it out eventually.  I just don't like it taking all night just to reboot.
[03:47] <kinja-sheep> socks4anon: What command do you use?
[03:47] <blaz_> hurd: but does it work in gnome/kde? i tried to set 'rgba' option in .fonts.conf but doesn't work. I guess gnome/kde gui tools do something similar..
[03:47] <formerguest> socks4anon: sudo
[03:47] <lstarnes> socks4anon: user:user
[03:47] <chris8> All yous: thanks guys!
[03:47] <Ollonk> nothing
[03:47] <Ollonk> :/
[03:47] <Legendre> motoh: it halts for a while, but doesn't hang forever?
[03:47] <lstarnes> socks4anon: there are other groups. for example, sudo users are usually in the admin group
[03:47] <durammx> orthos guy pm me
[03:48] <niadh> I
[03:48] <motoh> Well, it was hanging at that point, but now I'm stalled at a blank screen after the white Ubuntu logo showed for a short while.
[03:48] <hurd> blaz_: do ls /etc/fonts/conf.avail, youll find the answer there
 does not ask for size at this point: size it already there.
[03:48] <motoh> worker 127 unexpectedly returned with status ... blast, it's spamming me.
[03:48] <Izinucs> richard22: how big
[03:48] <niadh> m having issues installing 9.10 64 bit, i've checked the md5 sum and it downloads correctly, what else can i check?
[03:48] <DIguana> Is there any way to get my username off of my "Shutdown/Logout" icon in Gnome? I know what my username is and I don't need to waste valuble panel space to remind myself.
[03:48] <richard22> 72966
[03:48] <socks4anon> i tried sudo chown user:user still says permission denied i gave proper path and even went into the root of that path and types sudo chown user:user dir and still permission denied is it because it's a smbfs share?
[03:48] <kinja-sheep> DIguana: You can remove the applet.
[03:48] <richard22> is EXT4 OK for root
[03:48] <richard22> ?
[03:48] <Izinucs> richard22: kbytes?
[03:48] <motoh> Now it's sitting here staring at me after 'checking battery state'
[03:49] <richard22> GB
[03:49] <motoh> I really do not understand what is going so slowly.
[03:49] <syn-ack> richard22, yes, its fine
[03:49] <richard22> sorry MB
[03:49] <Izinucs> syn-ack: for swap?
[03:49] <richard22> mount point = / ?
[03:49] <arleslie> Ubuntu has just randomly stoped working with my wifi, it was working 3 days ago and I havn't booted into ubuntu since then, until now and when I type in my key I hit connect, it asks for it again and I click Show password and its the password is encrypted
[03:49] <syn-ack> Izinucs, um.... swap is swap... there is no filesystem...
[03:49] <syn-ack> richard22, you're fine.
[03:49] <kinja-sheep> socks4anon: Probably. The machine that's sharing things will need to specifically mark the path as readable/writeable.  It's generally on read-only mode.
[03:50] <Animagladius> Night, world.
[03:50] <blaz_> hurd: i tried to symlink the 10-no-sub-pixel.conf but it doesn't work. I think theres a bug in Karmic fontconfig or something..
[03:50] <syn-ack> richard22, ext4 is stable enough not to give you any issues
[03:50] <socks4anon> ok ill play around maybe i need to change chown before i mount
[03:50] <dizzyd> anyone know how to fix a broken persistent  setup on a usb?
[03:50] <Izinucs> syn-ack: right.. he's doing the manual partitioning and got to a section for swap.. I told him / @ 8-12 gigs ... /swap @ 2 gigs or 2x ram .. the rest /home .. he's got winxp on sda1
[03:50] <richard22> so i dont need to define a swap area?
[03:50] <alex87> can i set multiple --extra-libs in ./configure?
[03:50] <richard22> thanks syn-ack
[03:51] <hurd> blaz_: what does ls -l /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-no-sub-pixel.conf say
[03:51] <blaz_> hurd: do you have subpixel hinting switched off and antialiasing on for your desktop?
[03:51] <syn-ack> Izinucs, That sounds perfectly fine to me... I was answering his ext4 question
[03:51] <hurd> blaz_: i have subpixel off
[03:51] <eross> I mounted my home on a separate partition, it has my screwed up gnome settings, no panel just desktop icons and a background picture. How can I delete my old gnome settings so the 9.10 gnome will show up? This is a fresh install btw.
[03:51] <hurd> blaz_: you need to restart X after doing it
 so i dont need to define a swap area?
[03:51] <syn-ack> richard22, you do
[03:52] <Izinucs> syn-ack: ah.. didn't catch that question.. it's been a while since I've used the manual paritioner on a fresh install...
[03:52] <blaz_> it says <edit name="rgba" mode="assign"><const>none</const></edit>, what's your point?
[03:52] <motoh> Hurray.
[03:52] <arleslie> Ubuntu 9.04, Acer Aspire One, ---wifi is not wanting to connect propery, not accepting the WEP key when its correct---
[03:52] <motoh> I have traded a 30 minute boot time for sound.
[03:52] <blaz_> hurd: it says <edit name="rgba" mode="assign"><const>none</const></edit>, what's your point?
[03:52] <motoh> God I hate Karmic Koala with a passion.
[03:52] <kinja-sheep> Hello, I wanted a confirmation that notify-osd is still broken (displaying notification one "box" too low)
[03:52] <hurd> no blaz_
[03:52] <hurd> not the content of the file
[03:52] <hurd> blaz_: what does ls -l /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-no-sub-pixel.conf say
[03:52] <hurd> the link
[03:53] <richard22> ok: 2.8GB enough?
[03:53] <makario> Is it safe to upgrade to the new version right now?
[03:53] <blaz_> hurd: oh sorry.. it says /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-no-sub-pixel.conf -> ../conf.avail/10-no-sub-pixel.conf
[03:53] <syn-ack> richard22, how much ram does your system have?
[03:53] <kismet> does karmic support wubi?
[03:53] <SJrX> What packages should I install for c development
[03:53]  * SJrX hugs syn-ack
[03:53] <niadh> Can someone give me a list of things to try in order to get karmic 64 to boot?
[03:53] <richard22> 1000mb
[03:53] <syn-ack> SJrX!!!!!!
[03:53] <Izinucs> SJrX: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:54] <zcat[1]_> !b-e
[03:54] <blaz_> hurd: did you look at your fonts with xmag and don't see colorful pixels?
[03:54] <niadh> SJrX: build-essential
[03:54] <syn-ack> richard22, so you have a gig of RAM?
[03:54] <Izinucs> niadh: installed already or live cd?
[03:54] <formerguest> makario: some problems with it have been mentioned in here
[03:54] <hurd> blaz_: that depends on the font, some dont work well with it switched off
[03:54] <SJrX> Izinucs,  is there anything else, I'm specifically trying to compile for ia32 but am getting an error during linking: http://codepad.org/3I3w6fNZ
[03:54] <syn-ack> richard22, put at least one gig of swap in there if not 2.
[03:54] <richard22> sorry 1MB :-(
[03:54] <motoh> Are you serious...
[03:54] <Merlin_> haha
[03:54] <motoh> 'no packages for requested plugins found
[03:54] <hurd> blaz_: everything is alright from what i can check, as long as youve tried restarting x
[03:54] <makario> formerguest: Like what?
[03:54] <syn-ack> richard22, you have one MegaByte of RAM in there?
[03:55] <motoh> WHY IS KARMIC KOALA SUCH TRASH?!
[03:55] <niadh> Izinucs: Live cd, although the 32 bit one installed, it suffered from the same issue when it came to boot, i have flickering in text mode, when it tries to load gnome
[03:55] <Izinucs> SJrX: sorry.. I'm just aware of build-essential.. you'll need the linux headers for your kernel as well I believe.. but that's the end of my knowledge ..sorry
[03:55] <syn-ack> motoh, its not.
[03:55] <richard22> OK, sorry I am tired.. . must be 1000MB.
[03:55] <motoh> syn-ack I went from everything working to next to nothing working and it has gotten progressively worse through the day.
[03:55] <formerguest> makario: like screen resolutions going wak and whatever motoh is on about
[03:55] <zcat[1]_> motoh: logical progression.. ubuntu's been getting worse every release for a while now
[03:55] <syn-ack> SJrX, /msg me what you're trying to do?
[03:55] <richard22> on the machine as a whole.
[03:55] <Merlin_> How much swap are you meant to have for a computer with 4GB of RAM?
[03:56] <niadh> Merlin_: Between 4 and 8 gig
[03:56] <richard22> IBM T42 laptop, 100GB HD.
[03:56] <motoh> I have to suffer a 30+ minute boot time to get sound to work.
[03:56] <motoh> I have no MP3 playback.
[03:56] <Izinucs> niadh: what kind of video card?
[03:56] <eross> how do i restore gnome to default settings
[03:56] <syn-ack> Merlin_, Rule of thumb is equal to or two times the amount of RAM
[03:56] <motoh> I'm stunned they didn't butcher my wifi.
[03:56] <Revol5> kinja-sheep i did the !flash64, doesn't do anything in fact
[03:56] <Strife89> Nuts. Ubuntu 9.04 could find a printer that's hooked up to a Windows machine on the network, but 9.10 can't. What can I do?
[03:56] <blaz_> hurd: ok, i hope it will work after restart, thanks!
[03:57] <jken146> nidah, Merlin_: Rubbish.  4-8gigs of swap would never get used!  With that much RAM, give yourself 512 MB or 1 GB of swap and you'll be *fine*
[03:57] <domo> on ubnuntu.com it says "Developing at speed... Fun tools make it easy to write and deploy apps for Ubuntu"
[03:57] <domo> what are these tools?
[03:57] <niadh> Izinucs: Nvidia 6600, but i select safe graphics mode, by flickering, i mean i can see some info about apt, apparmour and a login prompt but the screen flickers and the terminal never gets keyboard focus
[03:57] <richard22> syn-ack: from your answer above 3GB should do it?
[03:57] <syn-ack> richard22, well, yeah
[03:57] <motoh> Alright, let's start simple.
[03:57] <Strife89> I already did an "apt-get install samba".
[03:57] <motoh> What do I need to do short of setting my laptop on fire to get mp3 playback back?
[03:57] <Izinucs> niadh: did you say this was already installed or just booting the live cd?
[03:58] <Strife89> So now what?
[03:58] <TheCheeze> how can i change where my purple notifies pop up?
[03:58] <doc-saintly> is it possible to roll back a distro? I'm finding that Koala is not stable enough yet
[03:58] <zcat[1]_> motoh: install windows 7 ;)
[03:58] <Nixed> Hi, does anyone know of a way getting the kernal to load a vesa driver at boot on Karmic Koala?
[03:58] <Strife89> motoh: Install from scratch.
[03:58] <zcat[1]_> motoh: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[03:58] <motoh> Strife89 try again, just did that.  I'm already suffering a 30 minute boot because of it.
[03:58] <niadh> Izinucs: It does the flickering thing on the 64 bit live cd, and does the same thing after 32 bit has been installed
[03:58] <jken146> Strifr89: Have you got samba-common installed?  Have you ticked the box 'show printers shared by other systems' in the server settings menu of System > Admin > Printing ?
[03:58] <formerguest> makario: is this inspiring you to upgrade yet?
[03:58] <Viking667> I ahve a problem. How do I turn _off_ pulseaudio? It's right royally getting in the way.
[03:58] <motoh> zcat, not yet, this is my first login.  Is that listed simply in synaptic?
[03:58] <Izinucs> niadh: and do you have an nvidia gforce chipset motherboard?
[03:59] <zcat[1]_> motoh: yes
[03:59] <makario> formerguest: Not quite.
[03:59] <motoh> zcat, thank you.  Doing so now.
[03:59] <niadh> Izinucs: I might do
[03:59] <Viking667> ... and I don't seem to have the option of turning it off when I can't even find the config tools.
[03:59] <kinja-sheep> Hello, I wanted a confirmation that notify-osd is still broken (displaying notification one "box" too low).  Anybody experiencing this behaviors too?
[03:59] <Strife89> jken146: I have done neither. ^^;
[03:59] <phibxr> motoh: i found setting my laptop on fire solved most of the problems i've ever experienced in any OS, to be honest. it created some new ones though...
[03:59] <Viking667> (just the KDE ones)
[03:59] <TheCheeze> Viking667, see my thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8217190#post8217190
[03:59] <motoh> phibxr electrical fires are awesome things, because they find fuel on their own once you cut the power.  Very cheap to maintain really.
[03:59] <doc-saintly> ERgh! What is with these wicked fluctuations in samba's performance? Just this morning it was 80MB/s and now its 22...
[03:59] <Guest8455> so i am attempting to install a tar.gz file can anyone help me
[03:59] <phibxr> motoh: :D
[03:59] <durammx> can't recover ubuntu 9.10, I'm on live cd now
[04:00] <Izinucs> niadh: while booting the live cd and you come to the first menu, F6 and find the kernel line.. before quiet splash enter pci=nomsi and hit enter.. see if that fixes it.
[04:00] <krishna> Hi i upgrraded to ubuntu 9.10 ..  i had resolution problems .. and it got solved now ( though i didnt do anything) .. bt now , the computer is VERY slow.... how do i get the usual speed ??????
[04:00] <krishna> The sppeed is toooooo low
[04:00] <durammx> need some help pm me
[04:00] <krishna> :(
[04:00] <Strife89> Guest8455: A tar.gz is just a compressed archive.
[04:00] <TheCheeze> krishna, have dpkg check for broken packages was a good start for me
[04:00] <Revol5> Ok I don't think that ANY sound will play in Firefox, and I don't think it's a Flash issue. What else could it be?
[04:00] <motoh> ubuntu-restricted-extras is not showing up in synaptic search.
[04:00] <Strife89> Guest8455: Most likely you will have to extract and compile it.
[04:00] <Revol5> What's a website that plays any kind of audio without flash
[04:01] <krishna> TheCheeze, hwo do i do that ?
[04:01] <motoh> Reloading headers.
[04:01] <zcat[1]_> GRUB2 scares me... also I installed LVM this time around.. borked my xorg config and for some reason found I couldn't boot at all (not even to console or safemode)
[04:01] <richard22> thank you syn-ack
[04:01] <Guest8455> Strife89 i have extracted it...how do i complie?
[04:01] <AaronM> Revol5 dose audio work with vlc or anything else?
[04:01] <motoh> Still nothing.
[04:01] <niadh> Izinucs: Trying it now
[04:01] <zcat[1]_> .. was almost ready to reinstall but figured out how to mount lvm volumes from the live CD and managed to fix xorg.conf
[04:01] <gsevil> how can I disable Universal Access preference icon in taskbar?
[04:01] <syn-ack> richard22, no problem
[04:01] <Revol5> I dont have VLC the program installed I think?
[04:02] <Izinucs> niadh: k.. pci=nomsi helps with irq conflicts on some chipsets
[04:02] <krishna> TheCheeze, how to do that ? plz help me. i am a n0b
[04:02] <Revol5> but XBMC works perfectly, as does audio preview
[04:02] <Revol5> And games that came with Karmic
[04:02] <AaronM> Revol5 i had to uninstall pulseaudio to get my audio to work, if its just flash idk tho
[04:02] <Strife89> Guest8455: Usually, you open a terminal and Change Directory (cd) into the folder, then you use ./configure, then make.
[04:02] <lrojas> does anybody knows if VirtualBox has support for Ubuntu 9.10 as a guest?
[04:02] <Izinucs> lrojas: sure
[04:02] <formerguest> Guest8455: "./configure" then "make" then "make install"
[04:02] <r-angel> I'm only able to connect to irc via proxy servers -- somehow I don't think this has to do with ubuntu...
[04:02] <niadh> Izinucs: Well i forgot to put it in safe graphics mode there, will try again
[04:02] <KitsuneDragon> Windows takes up 20.9 GB of my harddrive Ubuntu can install on like 5 something here is wrong for sure....
[04:02] <motoh> My synaptic is all jacked up, too.  The only category is 'all'
[04:02] <zcat[1]_> .. so the question is.. why does messine with (abd breaking) xorg.conf affect my ability to do anything at all like textmode of safemode from grub?!!
[04:02] <thiebaude> motoh, did you enable third party repositories?
[04:02] <Strife89> Guest8455: And often, you discover you need a dependency, so you install that and try to make again. >.<
[04:02] <TheCheeze> krishna, i did it by going into the repair console through grub and choosing dpkg
[04:03] <motoh> thiebaude, not sure where that is.  I found restricted-extras, but please tell me anyway?
[04:03] <krishna> " dpkg check for broken packages" HOW do i do this ?? its not in synaptic ?????????
[04:03] <strike1> I have a problem with flash.   I have the plugin for firefox installed and I have a 64 bit 9.10 and sometimes it works and other times it doesn't
[04:03] <krishna> TheCheeze, ok.. during booting time ?
[04:03] <TheCheeze> yep
[04:03] <Strife89> motoh: You *might* have a bad CD, beit due to a bad download or a bad burn.
[04:03] <ravikumar> Hi I could not install any package in ubuntu 9.10
[04:03] <thiebaude> motoh, system-admistration-software sources
[04:03] <TheCheeze> press escabe when it says loading grub
[04:03] <KitsuneDragon> krishna: terminal sudo apt-get -f ?
[04:03] <motoh> thiebaude, thank you.
[04:03] <TheCheeze> press escabe when it says loading grub <-- krishna
[04:03] <Strife89> motoh: Use "Check CD for Defects" at the CD boot menu.
[04:03] <thiebaude> motoh, np
[04:04] <motoh> Strife89 I don't feel like waiting another 30 minutes for that damned boot hangup, whatever is causing it.  Perhaps later.
[04:04] <andrew_> hello
[04:04] <niadh> Izinucs: That brought the graphics up, now to prevent it from happening on boot, do i perminantly add that to grub?
[04:04] <Guest8455> i must be doing something wrong b/c i get this error when i try to change the location bash: cd: atlantis: No such file or directory
[04:04] <zcat[1]_> hmmmmmm. gtgbrbttfn
[04:04] <Izinucs> niadh: yes
[04:04] <firewire1394> test.
[04:04] <andrew_> ahhhhhhhhh
[04:04] <formerguest> have any of you seen a problem that was actually caused by a bad download or bad burn?
[04:04] <KitsuneDragon> firewire: test test
[04:05] <Revol5> Totem is GNOME based while XBMC is KDE based, correct?
[04:05] <Guest57753> hmm
[04:05] <krishna> KitsuneDragon, that command showed some texts.. what do i do wit hthat ?
[04:05] <ravikumar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/307195/
[04:05] <firewire1394> hey guys you know any mac os emulators that will run on ubuntu? i want to do some iphone dev..
[04:05] <krishna> TheCheeze, i am rebooting now.
[04:05] <niadh> Izinucs: Would that remain persistant with kernel upgrades?
[04:05] <jken146> formerguest: yes.  various degrees of live cd fail
[04:05] <phibxr> formerguest: most of the time, the installation probably wouldn't complete from a bad burn. i guess.
[04:05] <KitsuneDragon> :that command was supposed to fix any broken packages you had installed
[04:05] <motoh> Hurray, mp3 playback is live.
[04:05] <uc> whats the default window manager for xcfe?
[04:05] <wgrant> formerguest: Yes, often. It most often manifests itself as a hang at boot, but is sometimes rather less obvious.
[04:05] <Strife89> Hmm, I've installed samba-common and checked the "Show Printers Shared by other Systems" box, but the shared printer still won't appear. :( Anything else I can try?
[04:05] <thiebaude> motoh, cool
[04:05] <jken146> uc: xfwm4
[04:06] <Izinucs> niadh: if put in the right spot yes.. I'd tell you how but I don't have access to my machine right now that needs it.
[04:06] <KitsuneDragon> firewire: i dont but if you find one tell me
[04:06] <Strife89> I do have access to the Windows PC that the printer is connected to.
[04:06] <wgrant> Strife89: That's for detecting CUPS (Linux and Mac OS X) printers.
[04:06] <uc> okay, another one: i have a dial monitor setup, but my second screen doesnt appear in displays
[04:06] <uc> what now?
[04:06] <durammx> how do I seen the entry log or error log?
[04:06] <uc> thx btw
[04:06] <Revol5> I guess my problem is Flash. The sound won't work in either Firefox OR Opera.
[04:06] <jken146> uc: That's what it's called
[04:06] <niadh> Izinucs: I can google for a solution now
[04:07] <uc> thx jken146
[04:07] <Strife89> wgrant: Thing is, I did *fewer* steps in 9.04 and got my printer installed in no time.
[04:07] <bjsnider> flash works perfectly
[04:07] <wgrant> Strife89: How did it appear in 9.04?
[04:07] <KitsuneDragon> Revol5: yep sounds like a flash problem especially since flash is a shared library
[04:07] <uc> okay if my second monitor doesnt appear as a "display", what should i do?
[04:07] <killazzz> hi somewone know a little bit on c programmation ?
[04:07] <Strife89> Hmmmm.
[04:07] <Izinucs> niadh: also in the grub menu.lst (if there still is one) there's typically instruction
[04:07] <uc> in xfce that is
[04:07] <ravikumar> plz help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1310355
[04:07] <Revol5> bjsnider are you running Karmic? and if so did you upgrade or fresh install
[04:07] <{aaron}> hi, what is the default/preferred MTA on ubuntu - sendmail, postfix?
[04:07] <uc> in gnome, the dual head is fine
[04:07] <Strife89> wgrant: I ... can barely remember. I hardly used the printer from my laptop.
[04:07] <KitsuneDragon> bjsnider: except for fullscreen
[04:07] <Revol5> Then again this was a problem in my original Jaunty anyways so i guess that doesnt matter
[04:07] <niadh> Izinucs: Yeah, i not looked into grub2 yet, but i guess no time like the present
[04:08] <uc> brb
[04:08] <OzFalcon> Grub2 is a world of pain.
[04:08] <thiebaude> flash full screen works for me
[04:08] <Strife89> wgrant: As stated, I can check the desktop to get some information on the device.
[04:08] <Izinucs> niadh: :)
[04:08] <bjsnider> Revol5, clean install + ubuntu-restricted-extras metapackage, which installs flash
[04:08] <niadh> OzFalcon: I
[04:08] <killazzz> does it make a diference if u updated from 9.04 to 9.10 ?
[04:08] <niadh> OzFalcon: I've heard that more than once :S
[04:08] <OzFalcon> Grub2 --> Solution found. (For me)
[04:08] <bjsnider> Revol5, on amd64
[04:08] <KitsuneDragon> theibaude: really O.0
[04:08] <TheCheeze> Revol5, there are a few people having that problem with PulseAudio
[04:08] <Revol5> i'm amd64 too
[04:08] <jken146> ravikumar: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:09] <TheCheeze> Revol5, change to alsa (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8217190#post8217190) and see if it helps
[04:09] <OzFalcon> I treat Grub2 as radioactive and dangerous.
[04:09] <Revol5> TheCheeze but what's weird is that upgrading to Karmic has solved other PulseAudio problems I had, with XBMC
[04:09] <unknown_> formerguest: are you there?
[04:09] <Strife89> wgrant: Also, I was using the 32-bit 9.04, but I'm using the 64-bit 9.10.
[04:09] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, yep, im trying it in youtube
[04:09] <Revol5> But I'll try that
[04:09] <niadh> OzFalcon: How come it's believed to be bad?
[04:09] <wgrant> Strife89: That won't make a difference.
[04:10] <jken146> OzFalcon: It's funny that the netinstall CD warns you against installing the 'experimenta' grub2 in production environments
[04:10] <KitsuneDragon> thiebaude: what are you running and what are your specs? also what form did you download Flash in?
[04:10] <Strife89> wgrant: I didn't think it would, but I thought I should mention the fact as a precaution.
[04:10] <motoh> Time to attempt a reboot and pray it doesn't take a day.
[04:10] <jken146> OzFalcon: that gives the lie to Ubuntu as a stable distro
[04:10] <wgrant> jken146: The netinstall CD doesn't get much love.
[04:10] <OzFalcon> yeah. They really dropped the ball on this one.
[04:10] <TheCheeze> Revol5, let me know. It took me 3 days to figure out how to get rid of pulse lol
[04:10] <uc> okay im using xcfe and my second monitor is not mentioned as a "display" so i see the same on both screens. what should i do?
[04:10] <wgrant> jken146: ... or the netinstall CD is out of date.
[04:10] <motoh> Nope, we have hang failure again.
[04:10] <motoh> Good christ.
[04:10] <niadh> What I
[04:10] <hurd> OzFalcon: dropped the ball on what?
[04:10] <Revol5> haha TheCheeze ALSA is already selected for my defaults
[04:11] <OzFalcon> hurd, Grub2
[04:11] <Strife89> wgrant: We all remember the driver problems when going from XP to Vista, or even Vista 32 to 64 in some cases! >.<
[04:11] <niadh> What I'm really concerned about is the outstanding ext4 large file size bug :S
[04:11] <TheCheeze> Revol5, ORLY?? how did you manage that??
[04:11] <wgrant> OzFalcon, jken146: GRUB2 is fine, whatever the netinstall CD may say.
[04:11] <Revol5> Well it's how I had it set on Jaunty
[04:11] <hurd> OzFalcon: whats the issue with grub ii?
[04:11] <wgrant> niadh: A total of three people have reported the problem.
[04:11] <motoh> Bollocks to this, is the torrent for JJ still moderately active?
[04:11] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, amd opteron dual core 165 2 gb ram 160gb hd not running compiz, not even installed and ubuntu-restricted-extras for flash
[04:11] <OzFalcon> niadh, Yeah. me to.
[04:11] <wgrant> niadh: I wouldn't be too concerned.
[04:11] <OzFalcon> Those that are saying grub2 is fine. Try it on some older hardware.
[04:11] <niadh> I know only 3 people have reported it, but it was big enough to make it into the release notes
[04:11] <TheCheeze> Revol5, so did i, but karmic shoved pulse down my throat when i upgraded
[04:11] <niadh> And I
[04:11] <jimp> what is the easiest way to learn ubuntu command lines?
[04:11] <formerguest> unknown_: sup
[04:11] <wgrant> OzFalcon: Have you reported a bug?
[04:11] <niadh> And I'm manipulating large video files
[04:12] <unknown_> formerguest: fixed it.
[04:12] <wgrant> OzFalcon: It works fine on all my older hardware.
[04:12] <TheCheeze> Revol5, what sound card do you have?
[04:12] <formerguest> unknown_: how?
[04:12] <wgrant> OzFalcon: Every couple of years back to 2000.
[04:12] <unknown_> formerguest: just need to make the change permanent
[04:12] <Revol5> Onboard, through HDMI
[04:12] <formerguest> unknown_: what change?
[04:12] <lat> I just upgraded to version 9.10. Now I'm not given the option of using stumpwm windows manager on startup. How can I fix this?
[04:12] <OzFalcon> niadh, Don't worry about the ext4 bug. I have yet to hit it. Moving round about 40gb of 1gb files.
[04:12] <KitsuneDragon> theibaude: not even installed? and wow i need to try the ubuntu-restricted-extra's instead of getting the deb from adobe.com
[04:12] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, before i open firefox i install everything flash java vlc the go online for medibuntu
[04:12] <unknown_> formerguest: to get the right resolution
[04:12] <OzFalcon> wgrant, Lucky you.
[04:12] <thiebaude> then
[04:12] <hurd> OzFalcon: ubuntu is not pitched towards users with older hardware
[04:13] <wgrant> OzFalcon: File bugs.
[04:13] <Revol5> what is the metapackage for medibuntu?
[04:13] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, and i use mediaplayer connectivity plugin for firefox
[04:13] <OzFalcon> Yes, Bugs will be filed.
[04:13] <unknown_> formerguest: /msg me
[04:13] <wgrant> OzFalcon: The status of GRUB2 was closely monitored. Had any significant bugs been known, it would have been reverted to GRUB1 before release.
[04:13] <TheCheeze> Revol5, unfortunately i dont know how much help i can be in this case. i just know the many headaches that pulse gave me when i upgraded, including a random "ticking" when the speakers were muted
[04:13] <jken146> Revol5: there isn't one.  medibuntu is a repository.  See http://medibuntu.org/
[04:13] <niadh> I didn't think the bug would hit me, but i was still concerned so wanted  to test it out a bit, if i don't encounter it, great!
[04:13]  * thiebaude i watch all video in any format
[04:13] <motoh> Ok, this is unacceptable but if someone is clever enough to save me from it, I'll keep KK.
[04:13] <wgrant> motoh: What is the problem?
[04:13] <Revol5> ok I thought so jken146
[04:13] <tlfloyd> Sound seems to be a big problem with an in-place upgrade.  Audio was working fine on my IBM Thinkpad R52 under 8.10 and 9.04, but after upgrading to 9.10, my sound hardware is no longer recognized and my trackpad has stopped working.
[04:13] <Greybeard> hi, everybody
[04:13] <OzFalcon> wgrant, You put too much faith in..... Ubuntu
[04:13] <KitsuneDragon> theibaude: wow and Medibuntu is awesome also mediaplayer connectivity plugin? what does it do?
[04:14] <unknown_> formerguest: if it works for you, then we'll just post the answer as step 1.
[04:14] <wgrant> OzFalcon: I develop it.
[04:14] <TheCheeze> motoh, make a bootable usb install environment instead?
[04:14] <motoh> I have a five minute hang on boot from udevadm settle - timeout of 180 seconds reached, the event queue contains: /sys/devices/LNSYSTM:99 etc.
[04:14] <OzFalcon> wgrant, Mabie thats the problem.
[04:14] <Merlin_> When installing Ubuntu, you are installing it as an extended partition, right? (root & swap or /home, /boot etc if you really want to)
[04:14] <Arsin> How can I get K3B to use MP3 files
[04:14] <formerguest> unknown_: OK what is the fix?
[04:14] <Revol5> tlfloyd: yeah on a fresh install, the sound in flash was fine
[04:14] <wgrant> OzFalcon: I somehow think not.
[04:14] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, lets you choose which media player you want to open videos with
[04:14] <OzFalcon> ;-)
[04:14] <morfic> what are the changes that were made in 9.10 would make a kernel rebuild necessary, the kernel i ran in 9.04 now just sits on a flickering console, while the supplied 2.6.31-14 boots with a higher console res fine into the X (rather than blindly trying to go for anything framebuffer related, i hope someone knows what parts exactly are now required for a successful boot into X)
[04:14] <unknown_> formerguest: open a blank terminal
[04:14] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, medibuntu is for my w32 codecs
[04:15] <|ransom|> does anyone know the name of the FPS game shown on this page? http://bit.ly/15XwLP
[04:15] <unknown_> formerguest: and type: cvt 1280 1024
[04:15] <KitsuneDragon> thiebaude: oh ok whats wrong with movie player as default though
[04:15] <piroko> Anyone know how to get gnome's onboard program to work when ubuntu prompts you to authenticate?
[04:15] <Greybeard> yeah, I'm having kernel issues with the Karmic 2.6.31 too
[04:15] <Squideshi> Does the frame buffer, used before xorg starts, have a log file?
[04:15] <tlfloyd> Revo5, that's what I heard on the Fresh Ubuntu podcast.  Fresh install from the ISO solves the problem caused by the in-place upgrade.
[04:15] <unknown_> formerguest: and hit [enter]
[04:15] <formerguest> unknown_: ok did that
[04:15] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, i like the quality of vlc video better
[04:15] <wgrant> morfic: The new kernel and X will use kernel modesetting (KMS) on Intel hardware.
[04:15] <Revol5> Fresh install isn't an option for me; this is an HTPC and I have a LOT of media files
[04:15] <Strife89> |ransom|: I'd hazard a guess at either Open Arena or Tremulous.
[04:15] <doc-saintly> Revol5: ever heard of a partition?
[04:16] <|ransom|> strife89 thank you
[04:16] <Greybeard> my laptop ran Jaunty fine, but 2.6.31 from Karmic hangs at random points
[04:16] <unknown_> formerguest: you should have got something like this:
[04:16] <Avash> will anybody join the room Joke?
[04:16] <Revol5> I thought I had to format to do a partition
[04:16] <unknown_> formerguest: xrandr --newmode "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
[04:16] <KitsuneDragon> Thiebaude: I know what Medibuntu does since its added with perfectbuntu script, and I agree VLC is nicer I should install that plugin
[04:16] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, i used mplayer before, it was good too
[04:16] <formerguest> unknown_: ya i did.
[04:16] <unknown_> formerguest: run that line - as written above
[04:16] <Squideshi> morfix: Your xorg broke after upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[04:16] <doc-saintly> Revol5: my point is, you should do your OS and your files on separate partitions
[04:16] <Viking667> hm. I'm having some really interesting times trying to get drm to continue to work...
[04:16] <piroko> nvm, figured it out. Just have to set password dialogs as regular windows in the assistive technologies preferences
[04:16] <doc-saintly> Revol5: that way you could wipe your OS partition at any time and your files would remain intact
[04:16] <motoh> And now I finally have an X login.
[04:16] <Revol5> yeah I guess I learned my lesson
[04:16] <kinja-sheep> |ransom|: I guess nexuiz
[04:16] <formerguest> # 1280x1024 59.89 Hz (CVT 1.31M4) hsync: 63.67 kHz; pclk: 109.00 MHz
[04:16] <formerguest> Modeline "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
[04:16] <Avash> yiana, why did you quit
[04:17] <unknown_> formerguest: now do: xrandr --addmode VGA1 "1280x1024_60.00"
[04:17] <Revol5> Actually I did go out to my local computer store and buy an 8GB HDD
[04:17] <motoh> Anyone care to help me settle this or is KK really crap and needs firebombed?
[04:17] <Revol5> just to use as a system drive
[04:17] <c4pt> is there a bug in the karmic final image with lvm encrypted filesystems getting stuck in the very last step of the installer at 26% while trying to set users and groups?
[04:17] <Viking667> sometimes I get glxgears framerate of 4849, and sometimes it's as low as 420
[04:17] <wgrant> motoh: Once you've logged in, 'ubuntu-bug udev' will file a bug.
[04:17] <morfic> wgrant: thanks, now i know what to look for
[04:17] <KitsuneDragon> thiebaude: Mplayer isnt that used for Electric Sheep?
[04:17] <Corsakh> hey guys
[04:17] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, its soo cool not having windows on my computer
[04:17] <Corsakh> how can I setup LVM for Ubuntu?
[04:17] <unknown_> formerguest: enter, then do: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024_60.00
[04:17] <doc-saintly> motoh: with my experience with KKi would advise holding off
[04:17] <niadh> motoh: Sorry, whats the issue you are having?
[04:17] <Corsakh> I did not have this option using 9.10 live cd
[04:17] <Revol5> but for some reason whenever it's plugged in via IDE, it's forced to read-only. if I use a usb enclosure, it works fine.
[04:17] <Greybeard> Corsakh: use the alternate install CD
[04:17] <unknown_> formerguest: hit enter - and you should be in the right resolution
[04:17] <kinja-sheep> Corsakh: Alternative disc.
[04:17] <wgrant> motoh: It might of course be a kernel bug, but in that case a bug triager will direct it to the kernel instead.
[04:17] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, im not sure, i dont even know what that is
[04:17] <motoh> wgrant, all due apologies, but I don't care to give Canonical a bug report for a release problem.
[04:17] <Izinucs> Revol5: they must have dug that 8 gig drive out of mothballs..
[04:17] <Revol5> i spent all day today messing with that crap.
[04:17] <Corsakh> ok thank you
[04:17] <wgrant> motoh: Why not?
[04:17] <KitsuneDragon> thiebaude: i have too :P because I have an iPod touch
[04:18] <motoh> niadh, I get udevadm timeouts severely hanging up my boot.
[04:18] <wgrant> motoh: It's not just a Canonical effort.
[04:18] <Squideshi> morfic: Your xorg broke on upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[04:18] <Merlin_> When installing Ubuntu, you are installing it as an extended partition, right? (root & swap or /home, /boot etc if you really want to)
[04:18] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, ahh,ok
[04:18] <wgrant> motoh: And neither Canonical nor we in the community can test on every conceivable piece of hardware.
[04:18] <Revol5> It was a Samsung HDD that I think was a special backup drive
[04:18] <motoh> wgrant I'm not technical enough to explain what is going wrong with it, and I don't have the patience to sit and wait for a response if any.
[04:18] <Izinucs> Revol5: ssd?  that would explain it
[04:18] <formerguest> unknown_: xrandr: cannot find mode "1280x1024_60.00"
[04:18] <Revol5> no its not SSD
[04:18] <c4pt> ??
[04:18] <Revol5> it's still an older drive
[04:18] <Revol5> but it didnt seem THAT old
[04:18] <muri_one> does anyone know where tomboy stores it's data? i see a lot of references to a .tomboy folder but I don't have one
[04:18] <Izinucs> Revol5: ancient
[04:18] <thiebaude> KitsuneDragon, i just fresh installed 9.10 less than 2hrs ago
[04:18] <c4pt> is there a bug in the karmic final image with lvm encrypted filesystems getting stuck in the very last step of the installer at 26% while trying to set users and groups?
[04:18] <Revol5> it did have 'LINUX' written on it though :P
[04:18] <niadh> Can udev not be disabled or sped up or something?
[04:19] <doc-saintly> Revol5: i'm assuming you meant an 80GB drive then?
[04:19] <motoh> wgrant basically, I'm the kind of frontal lob lobotomy user ubuntu is supposed to be advertised for.  I shouldn't be typing out console error nonsense.
[04:19] <wgrant> motoh: So you are fine to whine that it's not fixed, but not to spend a couple of minutes to get it fixed?
[04:19] <Revol5> i thought it was a good sign!
[04:19] <wgrant> motoh: That's not very friendly.
[04:19] <Corsakh> Which virtual machine is faster working with desktop - Virtualbox or VMWare Workstation
[04:19] <Revol5> no it's 8gb
[04:19] <JNSamuel> ..
[04:19] <motoh> wgrant I'd be fine if the error was sensible and fixeable.
[04:19] <Greybeard> niadh: udev has been pretty essential on most Linux-based systems for years
[04:19] <doc-saintly> Revol5: did you have to use a time machine?
[04:19] <Viking667> I prefer Workstation
[04:19] <KitsuneDragon> thiebaude: oh sorry Electric sheep is an awesome screensaver but its always hard to setup for me at least but it creates a screensaver by going to a server and hooking up with other computers where they do mathmatical equations to create a screensaver
[04:19] <unknown_> formerguest: ok - let me type it all - it works.  I did it twice since it's not permanent - every time I restart, I have to do it since I need to make it permanent
[04:19] <om26er> Corsakh: virtualbox is betteer
[04:19] <kinja-sheep> c4pt: Size of the hard drive?
[04:19] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: 250gb
[04:19] <Izinucs> Corsakh: vbox is pretty quick.. vmware can be a system resource hog
[04:19] <thiebaude> ok
[04:19] <motoh> wgrant but a timeout with nonsensical spam after it?
[04:19] <niadh> I know udev has been used for a while now, but couldn't older behavior be used?
[04:19] <morfic> Squideshi: no, it did not, just my kernel is not matching what's needed :)
[04:19] <strike1> can anybody help with a flash problem
[04:20] <osms> im upgrading ubuntu and I got this error: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2. whats it mean?
[04:20] <kinja-sheep> c4pt: How long did you wait? The installer lack any progress indicators.
[04:20] <wgrant> motoh: But it's a nasty hardware-specific issue, so it probably can't feasibly  have a nice error message.
[04:20] <om26er> !help | strike1
[04:20] <Revol5> this is my 8gb hdd i bought: http://pjcomputers.net/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=716
[04:20] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: does the standard install cd i386 do lvm encryped volumes or only the alternative cd?
[04:20] <KitsuneDragon> thiebaude: the bad thing for me is that everytime i think about backing up i do something to make my system crash :(
[04:20] <Squideshi> morfic: I think I have the same problem.
[04:20] <Greybeard> niadh: I think the biggest change was related to moving away from hald, but I don't know details
[04:20] <jlewis> anyone care to explain what to do if I loaded epipany-browser with gecko but actually want the webkit version?
[04:20] <Izinucs> kinja-sheep: keep waiting..
[04:20] <blankhead> how do you enable auto login in 9.10??
[04:20] <motoh> wgrant is there a way to tell what hardware it is?
[04:20] <Revol5> "Data Recovery Hard Drive"
[04:20] <KitsuneDragon> VirtualBox is awesome
[04:20] <niadh> Greybeard: Oh yeah, devicekit now isn't it?
[04:20] <motoh> wgrant I cannot read this mess it's spewing at me.
[04:20] <Corsakh> Thanks
[04:20] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: i waited close to 40 minutes maybe 30 minutes just stuck at 26% on settings users and groups after the grub install
[04:20] <kinja-sheep> c4pt: Only alternative discs have the option for lvm (and/or) cryptsetup for full-system encryption.
[04:20] <Greybeard> niadh: yeah, that sounds right
[04:20] <motoh> wgrant: I'd be more than happy to pluck away at it if it would identify what is hanging it up.
[04:20] <Squideshi> morfic: I actually did a fresh install on a separate partition and that just works, but I still haven't been able to get the upgrade to display properly without using the vesa driver.
[04:21] <morfic> Squideshi: trying to enjoy my music i can not be on ubuntu supplied kernels, so i built my own, which is now lacking the KMS stuff, i would have guessed at that, but i would like to fix it in one shot, not through trial and error, and wgrant i guess cleared that up
[04:21] <blankhead> nevermind i got it
[04:21] <niadh> jlewis: Am pretty sure gnome uses webkit exclusively now
[04:21] <Revol5> anyways why do you hate me flash why
[04:21] <motoh> wgrant: but it seems perfectly content to act exactly like I am, bitching at generalities with no real information.
[04:21] <osms> im upgrading ubuntu and I got this error: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2. whats it mean?
[04:21] <wgrant> motoh: If you file a bug, somebody will look at the udev logs and work it out.
[04:21] <FuRom> I downloaded some source codes with apt-get, where is it downloaded to?
[04:21] <rano> hi
[04:21] <jlewis> niadh, epiphany definitely says powered by gecko in the "About"
[04:21] <JNSamuel> because we hate flash
[04:21] <krishna> TheCheeze, Hi
[04:21] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: so why do you think it just gets stuck with a 26% indicator?
[04:21] <KitsuneDragon> niadh: what happened to Gecko?
[04:21] <Corsakh> When I use Virtual Box, its native GUI seems to be a lot faster than when I connect to it through rdesktop. Is this supposed to be this way or I don't know how to set it up correctly?
[04:21] <kinja-sheep> c4pt: That does not sound right (especially for 250GB). On other hands, if you were to have 2TB or any large hard drives, it'll take awhile.  Did you md5sum to verify that the disc is well?
[04:21] <unknown_> formerguest: restart X and find me here again:  restart X by pressing: (left) ALT+print screen button+ letter K
[04:21] <Izinucs> motoh: I'll ask you what I asked niadh .. it helped him. do you have an nvidia gforce chipset motherboard?
[04:21] <TheCheeze> krishna, any luck?
[04:21] <rukubites> Hi there. For various reasons I want to rollback libpurple from version 2.6.3 (current) to 2.6.1. What is the best way to go about doing this?
[04:21] <morfic> Squideshi: all i had to do was boot the ubuntu 2.6.31-14 kernel and all is happy but my ears, well and my eyes, i had watching stuff update, but that's beside the question i had
[04:21] <motoh> Izinucs, negative, ATI Radeon HD2600.
[04:22] <ajunior> hi all
[04:22] <niadh> KitsuneDragon: Gnome moved to webkit
[04:22] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: i think i will re download the alternative cd.....
[04:22] <motoh> It's a Toshiba Satellite P205.
[04:22] <kinja-sheep> !md5sum | c4pt
[04:22] <krishna> TheCheeze, i got into recovery mode.. but it didnt respond.. if i press  arrow keys . it places texts everywhere on the screen.. and the computer is still VERY VERY slow and irrresponsive
[04:22] <trayzz> i get this error message in my terminal: (gecko:8823): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_drag_get_data: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[04:22] <Izinucs> motoh: that's a video card.. not a motherboard chipset
[04:22] <jlewis> that's what I read, that epiphany switched to webkit
[04:22] <osms> im upgrading ubuntu and I got this error: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2. whats it mean?
[04:22] <KitsuneDragon> niadh: really but firefox still uses Gecko?
[04:22] <om26er> rukubites: remove pidgin repo and then remove pidgin and then again install pidgin
[04:22] <Revol5> is there a flash alternative that works with Karmic?
[04:22] <kinja-sheep> c4pt: Check the ISO first.
[04:22] <trayzz> kinda scary, anyone knows what it means ((gecko:8823): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_drag_get_data: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[04:22] <trayzz> )
[04:22] <motoh> Izinucs, my apologies, but I don't know what the Satellite P205 chipset is.
[04:22] <jlewis> so I'm not sure why the package loaded gecko, or says it did anyway
[04:22] <kinja-sheep> Revol5: You tried the libplayer.so from Abode website?
[04:22] <om26er> rukubites: or remove libpurple and then reinstall
[04:23] <niadh> KitsuneDragon: Yeah, but firefox isn't actually part of gnome, just integrates well with it
[04:23] <Revol5> the 64bit one? yeah
[04:23] <TheCheeze> krishna, odd. dont know if i can help then. maybe one of the gurus here can tell you how to check for broken packages from the terminal
[04:23] <Revol5> it didnt seem to do anything
[04:23] <om26er> Revol5: 64-bit problem?
[04:23] <rukubites> om26er: Reinstall using what?  Where can I get a 2.6.1 deb?
[04:23] <jlewis> yes, epiphany is the official browser
[04:23] <TheCheeze> krishna, probably wouldnt hurt to run an fsck either
[04:23] <rukubites> om26er: Or should I do it from source?
[04:23] <krishna> TheCheeze, ok.
[04:23] <Revol5> yes i am AMD64 Karmic
[04:23] <jlewis> if there is such a thing
[04:23] <KitsuneDragon> niadh: therefore the gnome-firefox integration updates?
[04:23] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: its a shame the wubi installer doesnt have an lvm option.
[04:23] <om26er> rukubites: you using karmic?
[04:23] <rukubites> om26er: yes.
[04:23] <krishna> TheCheeze, what to run in my terminal now ?
[04:23] <JNSamuel> you have to be insane to use wubi
[04:23] <kinja-sheep> c4pt: Wubi? :0
[04:23] <wgrant> c4pt: Why would a Wubi user want LVM?
[04:23] <osms> im upgrading ubuntu and I got this error: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2. whats it mean?
[04:23] <jlewis> I've ready that epiphany can be installed either way but maybe that's outdated info
[04:23] <niadh> KitsuneDragon: No idea, but here's a news article: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/GNOME-2.28-Switches-to-WebKit
[04:24] <c4pt> wgrant: kinja-sheep lol
[04:24] <Greybeard> doesn't Wubi install in an image file?
[04:24] <wgrant> c4pt: Wubi is for people who do not want to partition.
[04:24] <unknown_> formerguest: wb
[04:24] <om26er> rukubites: sudo apt-get install libpurple/karmic
[04:24] <KitsuneDragon> niadh: why doesnt Firefox use Webkit then?
[04:24] <Guest68190> i am unfamiliar with the command window in linux can someone help me install a tar.gz (i have already unzipped it)
[04:24] <KitsuneDragon> its faster
[04:24] <TheCheeze> krishna, i am not very fluent in terminal myself... just type fsck and see what happens :)
[04:24] <formerguest> unknown_: ok now wat
[04:24] <deadowl> Is there a way to import Mozilla Thunderbird filters into Evolution?
[04:24] <rukubites> om26er: But how will that back the current version from 2.6.3 back to 2.6.1?
[04:24] <trayzz> i get this message repeatedly in my terminal: (gecko:8823): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_drag_get_data: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[04:24] <trayzz>  ; can someone tell me what it means and what to do about it?
[04:24] <Izinucs> Guest68190: sounds like a program that you have to compile.. what's the program?
[04:24] <Greybeard> Guest68190: it depends what you need to install
[04:24] <om26er> rukubites: 2.6.2?
[04:24] <krishna> TheCheeze,WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[04:24] <krishna> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[04:24] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: so which utility do you think i should use to do an md5 check on the cd?
[04:24] <niadh> KitsuneDragon: Cos they develop gecko
[04:24] <wgrant> KitsuneDragon: Firefox's entire UI is Gecko-based. Moving to WebKit would pretty much require a complete rewrite.
[04:24] <jlewis> KitsuneDragon, that's what I just realized, so now I want a webkit browser, I could just use chrome as well
[04:24] <unknown_> formerguest: let's do it step by step - even if you might have done it before, let's do it at my pace, all right?
[04:24] <rukubites> om26er: No I need 2.6.1, the bug I am wanting to avoid was introduced 2.6.2.
[04:24] <om26er> rukubites: the only way will be comiling fromsource
[04:24] <formerguest> unknown_: kk
[04:25] <TheCheeze> krishna, oh yeah... that's why you do it from boot
[04:25] <Guest68190> Izinucs its a animation for compiz
[04:25] <TheCheeze> forgot about that
[04:25] <erikk71usa> can someone please help me with problem on ubuntu 9.10
[04:25] <rukubites> om26er: There are no archived old debs?
[04:25] <LordHawke13> Anyone use WINE?
[04:25] <unknown_> former: open a terminal and type xrandr
[04:25] <krishna> TheCheeze, if i cant do that from boot, how to do now ?
[04:25] <kinja-sheep> c4pt: Whatever is available and accessible to the Ubuntu ISO -- But you're using Wubi. There could be known bugs (related to Wubi).
[04:25] <Revol5> does apple.com/trailers use Flash?
[04:25] <JNSamuel> kill yourself with fire.
[04:25] <niadh> LordHawke13: Yup
[04:25] <Greybeard> erikk71usa: that might be possible if you ask a question
[04:25] <om26er> you might get the one in jaunty but that would be old
[04:25] <formerguest> unknown_: ok, should i type it here?
[04:25] <kinja-sheep> Revol5: No. They use Quicktime.
[04:25] <trayzz> i get this message repeatedly in my terminal: (gecko:8823): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_drag_get_data: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[04:25] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: im not using wubi....
[04:25] <trayzz>  ; can someone tell me what it means and what to do about it?
[04:25] <Izinucs> Guest68190: could be you just need to install compiz-config-settings-manager .. it's in the repos
[04:25] <erikk71usa> after i install ubuntu 9.10
[04:25] <TheCheeze> krishna, lemme test something...
[04:25] <Corsakh> I installed Firestarter on a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 and keep getting UDP connections on 9047 port from lots of different hosts every few seconds... Is this normal?
[04:25] <krishna> any gurus here help me for getting the old broken packges out ????
[04:25] <unknown_> formerguest: you should only see two resolutions listed there: 800x600        60.3*
[04:25] <unknown_>    640x480        59.9
[04:25] <TheCheeze> !fsck
[04:25] <Revol5> Ok I couldnt get sound there either
[04:25] <TheCheeze> there ya go
[04:25] <erikk71usa> i had to restart the pc
[04:25] <Revol5> So it isn't just flash.
[04:25] <formerguest> unknown_: yes i see that in my screen.
[04:26] <kinja-sheep> c4pt: If you're using Windows at the moment, then use the Windows method.
[04:26] <unknown_> formerguest: good.
[04:26] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: i looked at the wubi installer for maybe 30 seconds because i was just wondering...
[04:26] <erikk71usa> it will not goto the logon screen
[04:26] <KitsuneDragon> wgrant niadh: oh ok and that would cause a lot of trouble for the developers and add on writers which is why they dont use webkit
[04:26] <erikk71usa> i see the ubuntu white logo
[04:26] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: i know how to partition and install etc.
[04:26] <Guest68190> Izinucs already did....but everything i've found online about it says you need to install it.which makes sense i guess since its a plugin
[04:26] <trayzz> i get this message repeatedly in my terminal: (gecko:8823): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_drag_get_data: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[04:26] <trayzz>  ; can someone tell me what it means and what to do about it?
[04:26] <Roasted> Question - if I'm adding a computer name from another Ubuntu machine to my /etc/hosts file for DNS to pick up the name properly, should that machine have a static IP? I was just thinking, I have the 192.168 IP + PC name in /etc/hosts, and if the router ever assigns it a different IP, I assume my DNS would error out and Iw ouldn't find that computer by computer name. Is my train of thoguht right?
[04:26] <LordHawke13> niadh: Some EXEs have sound, others don't. Do you have a lot of experience configuring the sound drivers?
[04:26] <trayzz> please?
[04:26] <motoh> Good christ, some output while waiting to time out would be at least moderately more acceptable.
[04:26] <unknown_> formerguest: now let's type: cvt 1280 1024
[04:26] <wgrant> KitsuneDragon: Right. Everything would pretty much have to be rewritten, so there's not much point.
[04:26] <wgrant> motoh: It is a bug.
[04:26] <wgrant> motoh: File it.
[04:26] <niadh> KitsuneDragon: Maybe, dunno, think its more political than anything
[04:26] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: i just dont check every image i download with an md5 checksum
[04:26] <unknown_> formerguest: you should get something like this: 1280x1024 59.89 Hz (CVT 1.31M4) hsync: 63.67 kHz; pclk: 109.00 MHz
[04:26] <unknown_> Modeline "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
[04:27] <niadh> LordHawke13: Have you ran winecfg?
[04:27] <motoh> wgrant, I'll file it later, I'm trying to screencap the nonsense it spews.
[04:27] <Greybeard> trayzz: Gtk+ warnings like that are extremely common and almost always harmless
[04:27] <jlewis> KitsuneDragon they stated clearly I believe that Firefox is still default because it's more familiar to users of Windows
[04:27] <Izinucs> Guest68190: could be you just need to put it in the right directory.. you might try in #ubuntu-effects which I think is the same as #compiz..
[04:27] <formerguest> unknown_: yes I get something like that.
[04:27] <motoh> Right now what I want is a FIX.
[04:27] <motoh> Bug reports can rot.
[04:27] <motoh> Like they so often do.
[04:27] <KitsuneDragon> jlewis: have you seen the "chrome" browserthat was supposed to be included in the Google OS it got leaked in the form of a .deb package its VERY fast
[04:27] <Greybeard> jlewis: as opposed to what?
[04:27] <kinja-sheep> c4pt: Most of the users does not do that. In a rare situation where the installer went wrong, that may be the main cause.
[04:27] <wgrant> motoh: But the easiest way to get a fix is going to be by filing a bug.
[04:27] <KitsuneDragon> LordHawke13: yes of course
[04:27] <wgrant> motoh: And udev bug reports like that are unlikely to be ignored for long.
[04:27] <LordHawke13> niadh: Nope. I'm relatively new to Linux in its entirety. Is that a comman I use in terminal?
[04:27] <c4pt> kinja-sheep: makes sense
[04:27] <niadh> Izinucs: System boots still have the flickering issue though
[04:27] <motoh> No, filing a bug puts a pretty line of nonsense on the forum for devs to look at and close.
[04:27] <trayzz> Greybeard it's repeated almost a million times though...can i at least get rid of it? yakuake is all spammed with it
[04:28] <jlewis> Greybeard, I don't know, I thought browsers were simple enough, but that's just what I read the idea was :P
[04:28] <motoh> Catching the issue, identifying it and removing it with a soldering iron if necessary fixes it.
[04:28] <tarelerulz> How do I see what program load for my sessions ?
[04:28] <wgrant> motoh: With that attitude, you are not going to get anywhere.
[04:28] <unknown_> formerguest: now type xrandr -new mode and copy and paste all the information after the word "mode" - it should look something like this: xrandr --newmode "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
[04:28] <Izinucs> niadh: if you can get to a terminal then .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.. what vid card?
[04:28] <Guest68190> Izinucs quick refreasher on how i change directories in terminal?
[04:28] <erikk71usa> greybeard do u understand my question
[04:28] <niadh> LordHawke13: You can use it in a terminal, however pressing ALT+F2 will bring up a command run dialog, just in case you don't like terminals, its like windows run
[04:28] <Greybeard> trayzz: I don't know if you can get rid of it, but is there a particular problem it's causing?
[04:28] <om26er> !attitude | motoh
[04:28] <JNSamuel> lol
[04:28] <Izinucs> Guest68190: cd <location>
[04:28] <niadh> Izinucs: Am in grub2 atm
[04:28] <Greybeard> erikk71usa: I mean what should be used instead of Firefox?
[04:28] <Revol5> Ok apple trailers plays sound in Opera... but ONLY sound, no video :P
[04:28] <LordHawke13> Okay. . . I'll try that. . .
[04:28] <formerguest> unknown_: type "xrander -new mode"?
[04:28] <syn-ack> motoh, wgrant is a very wise and gentle person... he doesnt have to help you and you shouldnt be demanding help
[04:28] <KitsuneDragon> wgrant: i understand so then the only browsers with webkit for linux is Chromium and Opera?
[04:28] <trayzz> Greybeard if so, then i haven't noticed it yet
[04:28] <unknown_> formerguest, make sure it says: xrandr --newmode "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
[04:28] <Izinucs> niadh: arg.
[04:28] <om26er> Greybeard: chromium