[00:04] <dmitry_> #game
[00:05] <EagleScreen> mauri: what is your arch?
[00:05] <mauri> EagleScreen: 64bit
[00:05] <zelhar> Does anyone have problems with dolphin ?
[00:06] <EagleScreen> zelhar: what problems are you talking about?
[00:07] <zelhar> Anyway when I open dolphin it maxes out cpu and takes like a minute to until I can see my home dir, and basically every action stalls to the point of it being completely useless
[00:08] <mauri> zelhar: have you tried using "kdesu dolphin"... is it the same?
[00:08] <zelhar> lets see...
[00:11] <zelhar> I tried using dolphoin as root, it is still slow, but not as slow as the user dolphin
[00:13] <zelhar> So can I delete some cache files or setting files to reset dolphin for the user account ?
[00:14] <mauri> zelhar: try to rename the folder under .kde/share/apps/dolphin
[00:15] <zelhar> ok...
[00:15] <zelhar> should I logout before I try dolphin again ?
[00:16] <zelhar> The problems seems to persist ...
[00:17] <mauri> zelhar: im not too expert...probably it could be caused by a wrong mounting point... but im not sure
[00:18] <zelhar> Any suggestion where should I seek a solution ?
[00:20] <mauri> EagleScreen: are you still there?
[00:22] <EagleScreen> yes mauri
[00:22] <EagleScreen> paying with amsn from Debian
[00:23] <EagleScreen> i am doing now an audio call at the third try
[00:23] <EagleScreen> the two first tries it told me the Farsight error
[00:24] <mauri> EagleScreen: uhmm ..... ok
[00:27] <javier_> Hi! I need help with my microphone. I'm trying to record but it does not record well, not normal voice but something like what you hear when the loudspeaker are broken. Someone could guess what's wrong?
[00:30] <javier_> It was working well the other day, i think it can be something very simple... but dont get to know what's it
[00:35] <EagleScreen> mauri: any progress?
[00:35] <mauri> EagleScreen: unfortunately no
[00:36] <EagleScreen> you should consider installing the Debian amsn
[00:36] <mauri> EagleScreen: is it different?
[00:36] <mauri> EagleScreen: do you thing it could work
[00:38] <EagleScreen> yes, it is well compiled against Farsihgt
[00:39] <EagleScreen> you need to install four packages with gdebi
[00:39] <mauri> EagleScreen: have you made same trials in this timeframe?
[00:40] <EagleScreen> doing right now
[00:40] <EagleScreen> i tried karmic version of amsn
[00:40] <EagleScreen> it hasn't  Farsight support
[00:41] <mauri> EagleScreen: if you try the one i told you before.....it has
[00:41] <mauri> EagleScreen: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/amsn-daily/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[00:44] <mauri> EagleScreen: i have to go to bad.....may i leave you an email address in order to receive news from you?
[00:44] <EagleScreen> mauri: it is probably compiled as the same way of karmic one
[00:45] <EagleScreen> let me see
[00:45] <EagleScreen> yes mauri
[00:46] <EagleScreen> you can
[00:46] <mauri> EagleScreen<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:46] <mauri> EagleScreen: thanks a lot for your time
[00:46] <mauri> EagleScreen: have a good time
[00:52] <prefrontal> how do I downgrade from KDE SC 4.4 Beta 2 to 4.3.4, using the Kubuntu PPA?
[00:54] <EagleScreen> pre i may help you
[00:54] <EagleScreen> prefrontal: please a moment
[00:56] <prefrontal> ok thanks
[00:59] <EagleScreen> hi prefrontal, to start, disable Kubuntu Beta PPA
[01:00] <prefrontal> ok
[01:00] <jonftle> Hey all, I'm having some trouble with audio in Kubuntu 9.10. The system plays its startup/shutdown noises, and Banshee can play audio via gStreamer, and vlc and flash work fine, but the Multimedia section of the System Settings menu reports that my ALSA and PulseAudio devices are not responding - any thoughts?
[01:00] <EagleScreen> upgrading a big amount of packages is very easy, but downgrading is a quite complex
[01:01] <EagleScreen> jonftle: are the working device first int he list?
[01:01] <prefrontal> yes i'm not sure what command to use
[01:02] <EagleScreen> prefrontal: you have to uninstall all KDE packages and later reinstall them in 4.3 version, if your internet connection is fast, it won't take too much time
[01:02] <prefrontal> perhaps I can just uninstall kde
[01:02] <jonftle> EagleScreen: From the System Settings menu, neither of the devices work. However, I still get audio out of them with vlc, flash, Banshee, and system sounds
[01:03] <prefrontal> right.. so what is the master kde package?
[01:03] <prefrontal> perhaps kdm..
[01:03] <prefrontal> or kubuntu-desktop ?
[01:03] <jonftle> EagleScreen: but I'm running a WinXP instance in Virtual Box, and it reports on boot that the system audio devices do not respond. This causes any app that creates audio output in the VM to hang
[01:03] <jonftle> EagleScreen: so basically, my question is, how can the system recognize the audio devices as being broken, yet they still work in some apps? And is there any way to fix them?
[01:04] <EagleScreen> prefrontal: before you proceed, you must to know that you may need to do this job in a tty terminal, do u know what i am talking about?
[01:04] <prefrontal> yeah i'm good..
[01:04] <EagleScreen> jonftle: i dont know what to tell you
[01:04] <jkeef> what it do what it do
[01:05] <jkeef> have to say i enjoy KDE better than gnome..
[01:05] <EagleScreen> prefrontal: drop to a tty, install uninstall kdelibs and later install meta-package kubuntu-desktop again and any other kde apps you want
[01:05] <prefrontal> ok thanks
[01:07] <jonftle> EagleScreen: Thanks. If you know of anybody who has an understanding of Kubuntu audio, please forward them to me.
[01:08] <EagleScreen> jonftle: KDE4 audio detection sometimes become a bit crazzy
[01:09] <EagleScreen> sometimes some audio devices dissapear for it
[01:09] <EagleScreen> and sometimes they come back
[01:10] <kaddi_> and sometimes they don't :p
[01:10] <EagleScreen> when any audio device dissapear for KDE, KDE shows a warning message, and ask for ignoring that devices
[01:11] <jonftle> EagleScreen: I've noticed that myself - sometimes when I boot, flash and vlc have no audio, but a restart often fixes the problem. Any idea what project is responsible for audio in KDE 4? I'd like to have a chat with them
[01:11] <EagleScreen> if you dont ignore them, you must put them in lower places in the list
[01:11] <EagleScreen> may be solid
[01:12] <EagleScreen> jonftle: you can chat with them at #kde-dev i think
[01:12] <EagleScreen> it is #kde-devel
[01:13] <jonftle> EagleScreen: Problem is that I only have two devices in my list - ALSA and PulseAudio, and neither work
[01:13] <jonftle> EagleScreen: so it's not really a priority thing
[01:14] <EagleScreen> i ahve HDA Intel (Analog) and Pulseaudio
[01:14] <EagleScreen> Pulseaudio never works, it seems like a virtual device
[01:14] <jonftle> EagleScreen: I have HD Intel (AD198x Analog) and PulseAudio
[01:14] <EagleScreen> HDA Intel (analog) is the real working audio device
[01:15] <jonftle> EagleScreen: and neither work when I use the test button in the Multimedia Settings panel
[01:15] <jonftle> EagleScreen: but like I said, something clearly works
[01:16] <EagleScreen> the problem must be in Phonon or solid
[01:17] <jonftle> EagleScreen: Can you elaborate? I've never heard of either of those subsystems?
[01:17] <EagleScreen> Solid is the Hardware detection layer in KDE
[01:18] <EagleScreen> and Phonon is the audio server frontend for ALSA or other
[01:18] <jonftle> EagleScreen: I see. I'm a recent convert from Windows. On that platform, I would blame drivers. But on Linux, I really don't know where to start, because my system seems to be lying to me
[01:20] <EagleScreen> i am not sure if your problem is driver related or is a matter of a still bit buggy KDE4
[01:20] <prefrontal> EagleScreen, i don't have the right metapackage for reinstallation.. nuking kdelibs5 did nuke all the kde packages, but kdelibs, kdelibs5 nor kubuntu-desktop pull them all back in
[01:21] <prefrontal> i wonder, what target does the install media use?
[01:21] <EagleScreen> kdelibs is not installed by fedault in a Kubuntu system
[01:22] <prefrontal> here is the output of install kubuntu-desktop: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1734608
[01:22] <prefrontal> i created a command that tried to install those packages, but i got even more such errors
[01:22] <EagleScreen> prefrontal: you must remove package kdelibs5-data to remove all KDE stuff, and later install kubuntu-desktop metapackage to install Kubuntu and KDE apps again
[01:23] <kc2cfi_> could somebody help me with ax25
[01:23] <kc2cfi_> i have ax25 compiled into the kernel
[01:24] <prefrontal> EagleScreen, ok, that helped, but there are still a few more: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1734611
[01:24] <kc2cfi_> im trying to use it with a bp-2m modem
[01:24] <EagleScreen> prefrontal: I suposed you disabled kubuntu Beta Bakports PPA, and after, you reloaded package list, by "sudo aptitude update" or "sudo apt-get update"
[01:24] <prefrontal> yes
[01:25] <kc2cfi_> i cant transmit but the packet sounds weird and I also can't receive
[01:25] <kc2cfi_> can transmit*
[01:25] <prefrontal> EagleScreen, here is my sources.list: http://pastebin.ca/embed.php?id=1734612
[01:25] <dioxin> Can anyone assist in setting JAVA up in Kubuntu, I cant seem to set the PATH permenantly :-(
[01:26] <prefrontal> dioxin, you can set your path in /etc/profile or ~/.bashrc
[01:27] <EagleScreen> prefrontal: what are in google repos?
[01:27] <prefrontal> google chrome
[01:27] <EagleScreen> prefrontal: try disabling them by the moment
[01:27] <EagleScreen> only google chrome?
[01:28] <prefrontal> some others..maybe google earth, etc..
[01:28] <prefrontal> i disabled google/medibuntu, no help
[01:28] <EagleScreen> disable it by the moment
[01:29] <prefrontal> look here: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1734615
[01:29] <prefrontal> even though i disabled the ppa, it still looks there..
[01:29] <prefrontal>   kdepasswd: Depends: kdebase-data (= 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu3) but 4:4.3.85-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1 is to be installed
[01:30] <EagleScreen> i see
[01:32] <EagleScreen> prefrontal: run: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude remove kdelibs5-data; sudo aptitude install kdelibs5 kubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <prefrontal> seems to be working..
[01:32] <prefrontal> aptitude did some conflict resolution. i didn't inspect it, just accepted. we shall see soon ;)
[01:33] <EagleScreen> prefrontal: what didn't work for you in 4.4b2?
[01:34] <prefrontal> parts of the screen were not redrawing for an application I frequently use
[01:35] <EagleScreen> did you install Qt 4.6?
[01:35] <prefrontal> it had qt 4.6 yes.. it installs that automatically
[01:35] <EagleScreen> i dont think so
[01:35] <EagleScreen> but let me see
[01:36] <prefrontal> it does, i checked :)
[01:36] <prefrontal> the software is developed in our lab, and we use Qt
[01:36] <prefrontal> our software works with Qt 4.6 on osx without any bugs, so I think it's a window manager issue
[01:37] <EagleScreen> yes, you ahve reason
[01:37] <prefrontal> sweet, my desktop is back
[01:37] <prefrontal> thanks a lot EagleScreen
[01:38] <EagleScreen> KDE4 had a lot drawing issues with Qt 4.5.0
[01:38] <EagleScreen> they were fixed for Qt 4.5.1, may be the same woth Qt 4.6
[01:39] <prefrontal> well actually i am still linked against qt 4.6
[01:39] <prefrontal> so i don't think it's a qt issue now
[01:40] <EagleScreen> are you now using KDE 4.3.2 + Qt 4.6?
[01:41] <prefrontal> yep, according to kde4-config
[01:41] <prefrontal> and the bugs are all gone
[01:43] <EagleScreen> okay, nice to know it
[01:51] <Ev0luti0n_> hey there folks
[01:55] <Wolfcastle> hello
[01:55] <Wolfcastle> anyone attempted to switch to oss?
[02:04] <Wolfcastle> it seems the virtual mixer is not emitting any sound
[02:04] <Wolfcastle> and the system is using it
[02:33] <ExplosiveInDeed> hello
[02:34] <Wolfcastle> hi there
[02:56] <chrome_> hello
[02:56] <chrome_> I was installing kubuntu.. and then.. the fonts turned out crazy
[02:56] <chrome_> so big
[02:56] <chrome_> I can't read a thing
[02:57] <chrome_> I tried to install in the safe graphical mode
[02:57] <chrome_> but didn't work out
[02:57] <Wolfcastle> you can't get into system settings to change the size?
[02:58] <chrome_> it's prior the installation
[02:58] <chrome_> that the problem happens
[02:58] <chrome_> so, I don't know what's going on
[02:59] <chrome_> the logo saying kubuntu and initiating went fine, then some console text, and then puff, giant letters like a menu and I can't see nothing
[02:59] <chrome_> can I install this in text mode?
[03:01] <Wolfcastle> chrome_: should be possible i don't think they have removed that option
[03:01] <chrome_> yes they removed..
[03:02] <chrome_> I think it's only there for servers
[03:02] <chrome_> :S
[03:02] <chrome_> I only see 4 modes: Normal, Safe Graphics, OEM, Driver CD
[03:02] <chrome_> something like that
[03:02] <Wolfcastle> really wow what a bad call to remove it
[03:03] <chrome_> yes :\ really bad
[03:17] <snarkster> hi, how do i find what device is attacjed to a folder?
[03:17] <snarkster> im trying to add my raid to automount to a specfic folder
[03:20] <snarkster> nvm found it
[03:20] <snarkster> thank you
[03:52] <ritztech> after i did a Update.... my audio is muted .... and my gui just shuts off some times weird bugs
[03:52] <ritztech> is there like a log section i could look at to see why
[03:53] <rstob911> why do people update all the time never have figured it out if its working leave it alone that has always been my motto
[03:53] <geek> rstob911: well, mainly security i suppose
[03:54] <rstob911> in linux really
[04:02] <tyler_> hey everyone. I am having some strange issue with jockey (aka Hardware Drivers) not activating my driver even though it is showing the correct one. Its for an ATI/AMD FGLRX driver
[04:02] <tyler_> when I hit Activate it seems like it's going to work but then... nothing
[04:06] <tyler_> anyone have any ideas?
[04:11] <webbb82> i wanted to tesy out kde 4.4 but after testing it i want to go back to the stable 4.3 but even after i removed the  kde4.4 repo and update  all i can get is 4.4 even after removing the repo
[04:14] <webbb82> is kde 4:3.5.9-ubuntu  version 4.4 or 4.3\
[05:01] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[05:02] <ign0ramus> anyone have any experience in getting in-browser Flash sound to play through USB audio?
[05:02] <ign0ramus> I used to just use asoundconf and set my card, but that no longer seems to be an option :/
[05:20] <snarkster> anyone awake
[05:41] <m0se5> kde4 -- where can I disable all of these event sounds, such as closing a window, switching IRC channels... I've shutdown everything in notifications all ready.
[08:17] <OoFahNaRaKoO> + +
[08:53] <super> is a nnvidia 7300Gt good enough to run kde 4.4?  the animations on kde 4.4 is a bit laggy
[08:55] <petsounds> maybe because it's still beta, not your video card
[08:59] <rob-> it should be possible to use two wireless cards at the same time, am i right?
[09:04] <ankitpandit_> hello
[09:05] <ankitpandit_> my amarok starts but doesnt play any file... what could be the problem??? pls help... Ubuntu amd 64
[09:05] <rob-> have you installed the codecs?
[09:06] <ankitpandit_> how do I do it?
[09:06] <[psyk]> greetings
[09:06] <rob-> mine asked me to install them
[09:06] <ankitpandit_> Im new to Ubuntu
[09:06] <rob-> is it a new install of ubuntu/kubuntu?
[09:06] <[psyk]> Ubuntu: An African word for "I can not configure Debian."[1]
[09:07] <[psyk]> :D
[09:07] <rob-> has it never played sound?
[09:07] <ankitpandit_> yes i installed it 3 days back
[09:07] <ankitpandit_> its d latest version of Ubuntu... installed using wubi
[09:07] <ankitpandit_> it has never played
[09:08] <ankitpandit_> however ...sound files are being played on vlc
[09:08] <petsounds> ankitpandit_, if you're on ubuntu you need to install xine,    sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[09:08] <rob-> okay, probab;y needs codecs then
[09:08] <rob-> thats what i was looking for petsounds
[09:09] <ankitpandit_> ok lemme check...thanks
[09:11] <ankitpandit_> hey ... its working now... thank you robs and petsounds...thanks a lot
[09:11] <ankitpandit_> I have one more query
[09:12] <ankitpandit_> in Windows, I was using ASIO4ALL....to get the ultimate sound playback quality.... is something like that present in Ubuntu?
[09:13] <rob-> what is ASIO4ALL?
[09:13] <petsounds> ankitpandit_, no imho asio4all only make sounds worse
[09:13] <petsounds> rob-, a windows utility to change audio latency
[09:14] <ankitpandit_> ok ...thanks for the info.... So then Amarok plays the best sound quality?
[09:14] <rob-> ahh, i'd never even think of somethign like that, sound quality isn't high on my list :P
[09:15] <rob-> i actually ditched amorok in favour of audacious2, much simpiler
[09:15] <rob-> i just want my media player to play media, no frills :)
[09:16] <ankitpandit_> @rob... that's good....  but can you suggest which player can give the best audio output?
[09:17] <rob-> sorry mate, like i say i don't think about that stuff, tbh i think its the codec more than anything else, i.e. most media players will use the same codec, im guessing ffmpeg, which as far as im aware is very good
[09:18] <rob-> the media player doesnt really matter, its the codec doing the work
[09:18] <rob-> speaking very generally here
[09:18] <petsounds> agree
[09:18] <rob-> most important of all will be how your music was encoded
[09:18] <ankitpandit_> @rob.... ok...thanks for the info mate..... God Bless You....  I'll take your leave now... hope you guys save the world from the damage that Windows has made to Mankind ;)...Love Live Ubuntu...take care :)
[09:19] <rob-> happy new year man
[09:19] <ankitpandit_> @petsounds.... take care....god bless...bye
[09:19] <ankitpandit_> wishing you all the same
[09:19] <petsounds> bye ;)
[09:25] <Gamarok__> Hey guys !
[09:39] <muhammad_> hi all,
[09:39] <muhammad_> what script files are executed other that ~.bashrc when i start a new shell in ubuntu ??
[09:41] <muhammad_> i get this error ": command not found" and here is my .bashrc listing http://pastebin.com/m239205ca can anyone tell me whats wrong with it?
[09:41] <muhammad_> other than*
[09:42] <lukefeil_> there's a syntax error
[09:42] <lukefeil_> in the first line
[09:43] <lukefeil_> afaik that's have to be "#!/bin/bash"
[09:43] <lukefeil_> @muhammad_
[09:43] <muhammad_> thats the default file i dint make any changes in the beginning.
[09:43] <muhammad_> just added some exports at the end
[09:44] <lukefeil_> muhammad_: in my ~/.bashrc the first line does'nt existe
[09:45] <muhammad_> even after i remove this line i get the error message ": command not found"
[09:45] <muhammad_> i am not sure if it is coming from .bashrc at all. thats y i asked what other startup files are executed at the login
[09:46] <lukefeil_> and which command do you would like to execute
[09:47] <muhammad_> i think bash finds a unwanted ":" somewhere thats why it says so.
[09:49] <rob-> Installed new PCI wireless card, installed windows drivers with ndiswrapper but still not working
[09:49] <rob-> $ ndiswrapper -l    wg311v3 : driver installed    device (11AB:1FAA) present
[09:49] <rob-> $ sudo lshw -C network    *-network UNCLAIMED
[09:49] <rob-> $ lsmod    ndiswrapper 245248 0
[09:49] <FloodBotK1> rob-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:53] <rob-> installed new wifi card, ndiswrapper drivers installed, hardware present, but not showing up on iwconfig, more info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/350330/
[09:55] <digit11> hi i want to knw how to enable desktop effects in kubuntu
[09:55] <digit11> i have ati 4650 on laptop
[09:56] <rob-> digit11: settings -> Desktop effects
[09:57] <digit11> rob , i tried but it doesnt enable
[09:57] <digit11> says failed to activate.............
[09:57] <rob-> ok have you got drivers installed for your graphics card?
[09:58] <digit11> fglrx one
[09:58] <digit11> nops
[09:58] <digit11> coz i tried dat last time i reinstalled and i coudnt enable compiz on gnome
[09:59] <rob-> i have no idea how to install ATI drivers, google it, im sure theres a how to somewhere
[10:01] <digit11> ok how do i get themes installed
[10:01] <digit11> i tried in gnome as well as kde
[10:01] <digit11> cant get them to work properly
[10:01] <rob-> cant get what to work properly?
[10:04] <KOPRajs> hi, I've got a SONY Vaio laptop with Radeon HD 4650 and Kubuntu 9.10 and I've got a few little problems...
[10:05] <digit11> many times colours and borders doesnt loook nice
[10:06] <KOPRajs> 1. I'm running Catalyst 9.12 and have Composite turned on but when I run fullscreen app (like with Wine) the window is not redirected
[10:06] <digit11> nothing xcept human clearlook  looks decent
[10:08] <KOPRajs> when I try to run fgl_glxgears the window is redirected as it should be, but when trying to run fullscreen app even on Wine desktop the window is above all and sometimes blinking when other windows refresh
[10:09] <KOPRajs> is there any settings in KDE4 which sets this... or is this a bug? If it is a bug is it in KDE4 or in FGLRX?
[10:10] <digit11> I want to know the possible drivers i can instal for ATI cards
[10:10] <petsounds> !ati > digit11
[10:14] <digit11> Are there ny alternatives to fglrx
[10:14] <digit11> as compiz doesnt run on it
[10:14] <KOPRajs> any info on redirecting/unredirecting fullscreen windows under Kwin4?
[10:25] <Alarm> hello. i downloaded some window decoration themes (with an .emerald extention) , but i cannot find how to load them through the window decoration settings in the system settings menu
[10:26] <digit11> how can i teest whether i have drivers for 3d installed
[10:29] <KOPRajs> Alarm: you need to be running Compiz and Emerald window decorator to use .emerald decorations...
[10:30] <KOPRajs> if you are running KDE4 you probably don't want to do this
[10:30] <Alarm> oh i see. is there any other way to add some new window decorators without using compiz ?
[10:30] <KOPRajs> Alarm: are you running KDE4?
[10:30] <Alarm> exactly.  i use kde 4.2 and just wanted to change my window decorators
[10:30] <Alarm> KOPRajs, yes
[10:30] <KOPRajs> then go and look for Kwin themes
[10:30] <Alarm> i just cant find how to add some new ones
[10:30] <Alarm> kde-look i suppose ?
[10:30] <KOPRajs> yes
[10:31] <KOPRajs> kwin4 themes
[10:31] <Alarm> kwin themes are what ?
[10:31] <KOPRajs> kwin is the window decorator in KDE4
[10:31] <Alarm> complete new themes ?
[10:31] <Alarm> oh ok
[10:31] <KOPRajs> no, just window decoration
[10:32] <Alarm> why dont i see such a category in kde-look ? (meaning kwin)
[10:32] <Alarm> just "Native kde4" which i downloaded but still cant find how to load them
[10:32] <KOPRajs> that's what you need... native KDE4
[10:33] <KOPRajs> you need either package for your distro or compile it yourself
[10:34] <Alarm> i see
[10:34] <KOPRajs> what is in the archive you've downloaded?
[10:34] <Alarm> too bad. there are just 6-7 window decorators . i am looking for one that is vista-like . or somehow transparent titlebar
[10:35] <Alarm> dont see anything like that available
[10:35] <KOPRajs> Alarm: wait a sec. I'll look at kde-look
[10:36] <Alarm> well thats the page i got http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=75
[10:36] <Alarm> but nothing that interesting and total 6-7 results
[10:37] <KOPRajs> Alarm: you can use this one native KDE4 decoration and then you can use any theme under deKorator section... there is some Vista-like I think: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/deKorator?content=87921
[10:39] <Alarm> sorry, what is "dekorator" ?
[10:39] <KOPRajs> looking at Kubuntu repository... you can install dekorator native theme by sudo apt-get install kwin-style-dekorator
[10:39] <Alarm> ah ok. found it
[10:39] <Alarm> installed it
[10:40] <KOPRajs> dekorator is Kwin native style which can them load it's own styles
[10:40] <KOPRajs> *then
[10:40] <Alarm> too bad. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/deKorator?content=87921 is not available (the download link does not exist)
[10:41] <petr_> people
[10:42] <KOPRajs> Alarm: don't use this
[10:42] <Alarm> i installed it from the repo
[10:42] <KOPRajs> Alarm: install dekorator using package repository
[10:42] <KOPRajs> ok
[10:42] <Alarm> bad cant understand how to use it
[10:42] <Alarm> or where to load it from
[10:42] <Guest18804> I shut my IRC-CLIENT down and PC down      And when I start one again MY IRC CLIENT   LOADING!!!!   I do not want that my IRC was loaded!!!!
[10:42] <Guest18804> It is stupe
[10:42] <KOPRajs> go to system settings and choose dekorator as Window decoration
[10:43] <KOPRajs> instead of Oxygen default
[10:43] <Alarm> ok now it starts to make sense :)
[10:43] <KOPRajs> then in the right part of window you can choose from dekorator themes
[10:44] <KOPRajs> here's one Vista-like: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Aero+Glass?content=39007
[10:44] <Guest18804> KOPRajs ???   answer on MY question
[10:44] <Guest18804> KOPRajs I shut my IRC-CLIENT down and PC down      And when I start one again MY IRC CLIENT   LOADING!!!!   I do not want that my IRC was loaded!!!!
[10:45] <KOPRajs> Guest18804: first of all it would be nice to know what IRC client are you talking about... there's many
[10:45] <Alarm> KOPRajs, done
[10:45] <Alarm> :)
[10:45] <KOPRajs> Alarm: ok, now you can use any of the themes in dekorator category... enjoy
[10:46] <Alarm> great ! thanks ! :)
[10:46] <Guest18804> KOPRajs    Konverstation    I use standard KUbuntu IRC
[10:47] <KOPRajs> Guest18804: KDE3 or KDE4?
[10:47] <Guest18804> I do not know
[10:47] <KOPRajs> Guest18804: I don't actually know Konversation very well, but I would look into it's setting if there is some option to start it after login
[10:47] <Guest18804> KOPRajs   I use kubuntu 8
[10:47] <KOPRajs> so KDE3
[10:48] <KOPRajs> 8.04 ?
[10:48] <Guest18804> KOPRajs  may be
[10:48] <KOPRajs> then go to Konversation settings and look for such an option
[10:48] <KOPRajs> also
[10:49] <KOPRajs> when shutting down the PC look at system tray if Konversation is really turned off... could be that KDE's session manager automatically start it up if it was running during shutdown
[10:49] <Guest18804> KOPRajs  man    where can I look at my OS version?
[10:52] <KOPRajs> Guest18804: actually I'm new to Ubuntu/Kubuntu and I'm not sure what is the correct way of checking the version :))
[10:52] <KOPRajs> Guest18804: it is written in Grub when you choose OS to start for example
[10:53] <Guest18804> KOPRajs  ok ))
[10:53] <KOPRajs> but there are many ways to see the version for sure
[10:53] <KOPRajs> I just don't know
[10:53] <lukefeil|lernen> KOPRajs: Help>About KDE
[10:53] <lukefeil|lernen> KOPRajs: in any window
[10:53] <petsounds> lsb_release -a
[10:54] <KOPRajs> typically there is a file in /etc/[slackware|debian-version|gentoo|...] containg distro info
[10:54] <Guest18804> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[10:54] <Guest18804> Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.1
[10:54] <Guest18804> Release:        8.04
[10:54] <Guest18804> Codename:       hardy
[10:54] <Guest18804> ok
[10:54] <FloodBotK1> Guest18804: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:54] <Guest18804> I am happy
[10:54] <KOPRajs> so you have Hardy with KDE3
[10:56] <KOPRajs> petsounds: nice command... but it seems it is not on my Gentoo... is it Ubuntu specific?
[10:57] <Guest18804> people    I do not use KDE4   with kubuntu 9!!!   because .iso    do not work under windows installer!!!    My alkohol do not start this ISO KUBUNTU 9
[10:57] <petsounds> KOPRajs, sorry i don't know about gentoo, i'm a die hard Ubuntu fan ;-)
[10:58] <Guest18804> but I need both Linux and Kubuntu    and I remain with old 8!!
[10:58] <KOPRajs> petsounds: I use both... Gentoo on my server/workstation box and Kubuntu on laptop
[11:12] <KOPRajs> why is this already fixed bug in Jaunty again in Karmic?
[11:12] <KOPRajs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/327199
[11:12] <KOPRajs> and it seems that the workaround doesn't work
[11:16] <szacsvdm> hi all
[11:16] <szacsvdm> i faced a problem suddenly my sound card stopped working
[11:16] <szacsvdm> i can't logout, nor power off the laptop
[11:17] <paulsomebody> I have trouble restoring GRUB2 after install of Windows XP. I am following that manual https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing and done all steps in the section 'If you messed up', but command 'sudo fdisk -l' reports that all but my Windows partition is still unbootable.
[11:17] <paulsomebody> What am I doing wrong?
[11:21] <wilder> hi, is there a more specific channel for kde-ubuntu-devel related issues?
[11:21] <paulsomebody> #kubuntu-devel or else?
[11:21] <wilder> lemme try that
[11:21] <paulsomebody> I guessed right, go.
[11:23] <wilder> thx paulsomebody
[11:23] <paulsomebody> wilder: Then if anyone can help me.
[11:34] <sraka> yo
[11:36] <Peace-> yo yo
[11:36] <paulsomebody> Can anyone help me? Please read above.
[11:36] <muhammad_> paulsomebody: hi,
[11:36] <muhammad_> its easy,
[11:37] <muhammad_> just boot from the ubuntu live cd and do sudo grub-update2
[11:37] <paulsomebody> muhammad_: Okay, I am in live CD, I'll try now.
[11:38] <sraka> yeah do just like muhammed sey
[11:38] <paulsomebody> I says 'command not found'.
[11:38] <paulsomebody> It says, I mean.
[11:38] <petsounds> sudo update-grub2
[11:38] <muhammad_> wait a moment, i did it a few days back. let me check what it was
[11:38] <muhammad_> yes :)
[11:38] <petsounds> ;)
[11:39] <sraka> try without "2"
[11:39] <paulsomebody> In both cases it returnes 'grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /.' message.
[11:39] <muhammad_> update will i think only install the grub boot laoder and i lost windows entry in the list
[11:40] <paulsomebody> I could add it later, I just need to restore GRUB2.
[11:41] <sraka> when i lost grub i must install him in windows
[11:41] <muhammad_> ok lets do it stepwise.
[11:41] <paulsomebody> sraka: How?
[11:42] <muhammad_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:42] <sraka> i don't remeber how
[11:42] <sraka> write in google
[11:42] <muhammad_> may be you try this,
[11:42] <muhammad_> and if it does not work we can move along together.
[11:43] <sraka> i have thats problem a few moths ago i this method is help
[11:43] <paulsomebody> I have tried, this didn't help since I have GRUB2.
[11:43] <paulsomebody> This manual describes steps for recovering GRUB, not GRUB2.
[11:43] <muhammad_> worked for me...
[11:44] <sraka> try find in google togrub2
[11:44] <paulsomebody> sraka: This means you have GRUB. I am sure that I have GRUB2, since I did clean install for Karmic.
[11:44] <petsounds> !grub2
[11:44] <sraka> yes i have grub
[11:45] <paulsomebody> I have started with that! I was following manual related to GRUB2, it could be found there https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing.
[11:45] <paulsomebody> But something still is not right, I cannot boot.
[11:46] <sraka> how many a hard drive you have??
[11:46] <paulsomebody> I have one drive labeled 'sda', sda1 is linux root partition, sda2 is swap and sda3 is NTFS with XP.
[11:47] <sraka> i have 2 and when i install kubuntu i must change prioryty of boot
[11:47] <dhq> is there pointer capture for kubuntu
[11:47] <paulsomebody> sraka: My drive is already chosen to be first to boot, but GRUB2 still didn't work.
[11:48] <sraka> hmm
[11:49] <sraka> i have idea
[11:49] <paulsomebody> 'sudo fdisk -l' returns that - http://pastebin.ca/1734940
[11:50] <sraka> try the paulsomebody sey
[11:50] <sraka> or try install by console
[11:51] <paulsomebody> sraka: What are the necessary steps?
[11:52] <nidhal> hello, and happy new year
[11:52] <muhammad_> paulsomebody: try install grub first it will let you boot into your linux there you can do a sudo update-grub2. I just recalled that i dint know abt this grub2 thing and these are the steps i followed
[11:52] <nidhal> it is possible to rename or delete windows files?
[11:52] <sraka> or read documentation of gentoo install there is of instalation of grub or lilo by console
[11:52] <muhammad_> nidhal, Yes it is possible.
[11:53] <paulsomebody> sraka: Gentoo documentation? Are you okay?
[11:53] <nidhal> how? I tried to rename a file but it says read-only
[11:53] <paulsomebody> nidhal: Then mount partition read-write.
[11:53] <sraka> only the subject about grub
[11:54] <nidhal> how to do that?
[11:54] <muhammad_> nidhal: your question is way too generic.. what files do you want to delete?
[11:54] <paulsomebody> sraka: I used to think it isn't very user-friendly.
[11:54] <muhammad_> nidhal: it would be great if you give a little more info about your setup.
[11:55] <sraka> i now but i once install like that and it work
[11:55] <nidhal> well, I want to delete the virus, if it startup, it stuck the pc
[11:56] <muhammad_> ok. so u are accessing windows partition from ubuntu and want to delete some files.
[11:56] <sraka> to my its isn't hard becouse i install gentoo
[11:56] <faileas> nidhal: sure, you'd need to mount it with ntfs-3g. its really a good idea to run a AV livedisk or 2 rather than deleting things by hand tho
[11:57] <nidhal> that's right
[11:57] <nidhal> I don't know what happen but I'm unable to boot any CD...
[11:58] <muhammad_> nidhal: System: > Administration> Disk Utility select the partition and mount it . See the parition type when mounitng and set is appropriate.
[11:59] <muhammad_> Boot any CD ? do you have CD Drive Boot  option selected in the BIOS Setup? or you may try a boot menu selector by using the Bios key.
[12:02] <nidhal> @muhammad I can't find "Administration" in System
[12:03] <nidhal> also there is no selector menu in bios...
[12:03] <muhammad_> where are you looking for it ?
[12:03] <muhammad_> which OS do u use?
[12:04] <nidhal> kubuntu 6.10
[12:04] <nidhal> in K menu?
[12:04] <muhammad_> 6.10 pretty old... i never used this version..
[12:04] <muhammad_> did u try sudo rm filename ???
[12:06] <nidhal> please wait
[12:07] <nidhal> "rm: cannot remove `Readme.rtf': Read-only file system"
[12:07] <muhammad_> hmmm..
[12:09] <muhammad_> actually i never used 6.10 may be someone else help you who is experience with that version.. wht i can say is that you lookup google for "how to mount NTFS RW in fstab
[12:09] <z0man> I cannot log into an FTP site on Konqueror yet I can on Firefox.  Is there a different syntax I need to use?
[12:11] <nidhal> thanks anyway
[12:11] <z0man> my FTP username is a form of an "email address"
[12:11] <muhammad_> np
[12:12] <muhammad_> nidhal: may be u try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[12:13] <z0man> well the main wierd bit, is that cannot get an FTP login window on Konqueror.... to ftp://ftp.jburden.f2s.com/public_html/
[12:13] <z0man> Any help will be appreciated and I will blog findings
[12:15] <paulsomebody> Yes, I have finally booted into my system!
[12:15] <z0man> oh well done :)
[12:16] <paulsomebody> Now I have to add XP to the GRUB boot list.
[12:16] <z0man> Did you install your OS on top of XP?
[12:17] <paulsomebody> No, vice-versa and later restored GRUB2.
[12:17] <z0man> ooo, def a little scary way of doing it
[12:17] <z0man> Sounds interesting though :) As I have already done the usual way.
[12:18] <paulsomebody> Not a bit if you know what are you doing.
[12:18] <z0man> true :)
[12:18] <z0man> did you have to fiddle with the partitions of XP? Removing it's boot flag?
[12:19] <paulsomebody> No, I have written a GRUB2 into the MBR.
[12:19] <paulsomebody> NTFS partition stays bootable, but loader pays no attention to it.
[12:19] <z0man> Ooh
[12:20] <z0man> so you just run a liveCD boot then run update-grub?
[12:20] <z0man> Sorry for the 20 questions heh
[12:21] <paulsomebody> No, I have followed HowTo covering a topic. Wait, I'll give a link.
[12:21] <z0man> oh thanks :)
[12:22] <paulsomebody> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing
[12:22] <paulsomebody> 'If you messed up' section.
[12:22] <z0man> haha and cool
[12:22] <muhammad_> Cool nice snow Fall in Innsbruck,
[12:22] <muhammad_> like a snow storm..
[12:24] <paulsomebody> z0man: Run 'sudo fdisk -l' command afterwards, even if 'Boot' flag are only on NTFS partition, MBR with GRUB2 will be booted.
[12:25] <muhammad_> paulsomebody: how did u manage to restore the boot loader?
[12:25] <paulsomebody> First HowTo worked very well, my cautiosness was false alert.
[12:26] <paulsomebody> Link above.
[12:26] <muhammad_> got it.
[12:26] <muhammad_> did u try sudo update-grub2 now ??
[12:27] <muhammad_> when i did so it automatically looked up all the partitions and added windows to the boot options list
[12:27] <paulsomebody> It proven itself to be useless, at least for me.
[12:27] <muhammad_> i did so because i found no way to edit the grub.cfg file
[12:27] <paulsomebody> As I have already said this works for GRUB, but I have GRUB2.
[12:28] <paulsomebody> GRUB2 do not use menu.lst or whatsoever.
[12:28] <muhammad_> yes it uses grub.cfg and thats where manual editing fails.
[12:29] <paulsomebody> Take a look here, 'Dual-booting section'. Nice workaround without manually editing enything.
[12:29] <paulsomebody> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[12:31] <paulsomebody> Actually, you were right with 'update-grub2' command, but it isn't helpful alone.
[12:31] <paulsomebody> Sorry, 'update-grub'.
[12:32] <ziomex1912> waht
[12:32] <paulsomebody> ziomex1912: Yes?
[12:33] <ziomex1912> yy nothing i just trying
[12:33] <ziomex1912> i cant add new irc canal
[12:33] <paulsomebody> ziomex1912: Client?
[12:33] <ziomex1912> quassel
[12:33] <paulsomebody> muhammad_: Have just worked like charm.
[12:34] <paulsomebody> ziomex1912: I don't know, I prefer Konversation.
[12:34] <ziomex1912> ok thx i try
[12:35] <muhammad_> great. have fun.
[12:35] <paulsomebody> muhammad_: Already having. :)
[12:36] <muhammad_> this is interesting that things went quite smooth for me, i was surprised to see that update-grub2 did all for me.
[12:39] <paulsomebody> muhammad_: Quote that explains: "grub.cfg is updated when update-grub is run. Changes to grub.cfg should be made to the appropriate script files and not to the grub.cfg file itself. "
[12:40] <muhammad_> hmm..
[13:33] <Bonster> morning world
[13:34] <paulsomebody> Bonster: Yes?
[13:35] <mauri> is sameone able to perform video call with amsn under karmic?
[13:36] <Bonster> mauri, dont think that has voice
[13:37] <mauri> Bonster: yes it would have
[13:40] <Bonster> mauri, then does it work with the webcam?
[13:41] <mauri> Bonster: it should work but im not able to reach this result
[13:42] <Bonster> mauri, not all webcams work
[13:44] <Bonster> mauri, u can try emesene  also is for MSN
[13:49] <mauri> Bonster: what is emesene
[13:52] <Bonster> mauri, http://www.emesene.org/
[13:53] <mauri> Bonster: im looking just now.... is it eguat to amsn?
[13:53] <Bonster> mauri, is just another MSN client on linux
[13:54] <mauri> Bonster: Bonster what i need is to perform audio e video call
[13:55] <yaojun> excuse me,这里有中国人吗？
[13:55] <Bonster> mauri, dont think they have audio yet last time i checked but video was working for me
[13:55] <Bonster> mauri, there is option inside to enable webcam
[13:56] <mauri> Bonster: thanks a lot for your time.... im installing it
[13:56] <Bonster> mauri, make sure u get the 1.5 version or higher
[13:59] <mauri> Bonster: im downloaded it from the karmic repository... but when i click on the cam icon it says: you dont have libmimic.so
[13:59] <mauri> Bonster: do you now why
[14:00] <Bonster> mauri, search for libmimic and install that 1st then
[14:03] <mauri> Bonster: it is installed
[14:04] <oceans_> what is installed
[14:04] <mauri> oceans_: libbmimic
[14:05] <oceans_> and what is that
[14:05] <Bonster> mauri, now install the other 1
[14:05] <mauri> oceans_: read the conversation between me and Bonster
[14:05] <mauri> Bonster: sorry....what is other 1
[14:06] <Bonster> mauri, emesene
[14:06] <mauri> Bonster: uhm..... are you sure?
[14:07] <Bonster> mauri, isnt that wat u want to install?
[14:07] <mauri> Bonster: is it already installed......
[14:07] <mauri> Bonster: ok now it's work
[14:07] <Bonster> mauri, then job done
[14:08] <lolnt> привет
[14:08] <oceans> i have question
[14:08] <lolnt> есть кто с россии
[14:08] <lolnt> ?
[14:08] <lolnt> df
[14:08] <mauri> Bonster: thanks a lot and i hope emesene will supporrt soon audio call
[14:08] <oceans> what is the best ide to c++
[14:09] <oceans> kdevelop or else??
[14:10] <oceans> someone gonna help
[14:13] <faileas> oceans: that's a REALLY subjective question
[14:18] <oceans> becouse I try use kdevelop but i can't compile any program
[14:22] <mauri> Bonster: are you still there?
[14:22] <Bonster> mauri, ye
[14:22] <mauri> Bonster: unfortunately is not possible to use a cam.... i got an error.
[14:23] <mauri> Bonster: I looked into the forum and it seems that they are developing 2.0 version in order to resolv this bug
[14:23] <mauri> Bonster: but if i well understood before, you was able to use a webcam or not?
[14:24] <Bonster> mauri, oh guess gotta wait then
[14:24] <Bonster> mauri, yea my webcam works but mine was old
[14:26] <echoalpha5> Hi all!!
[14:26] <Bonster> ello
[14:26] <oceans> hi
[14:26] <echoalpha5> Is anyone in the MArketing Team?!
[14:28] <Rovanion> How do I use compiz instead of kwin? I seem to have failed at google, so I'm asking here
[14:29] <echoalpha5> I once did that but it didnt run very well
[14:30] <Rovanion> It worked out of the box in something like Fedora 9 when I tried it there. But that was a long time ago...
[14:30] <echoalpha5> you have to disable kwin and install compiz and than start it over the terminal
[14:30] <Rovanion> Oh but if I want it to start as I log in?
[14:42] <echoalpha5> starting compiz while kwin still running was are very bad Idea... lol
[14:46] <echoalpha5> How do I see the names from the writers in Quassel IRC?!
[14:48] <echoalpha5> ok
[14:49] <MacZed> hi
[14:49] <echoalpha5> Hi
[14:49] <echoalpha5> whats up?!
[14:50] <MacZed> oh just trying my new netbook hehe
[14:50] <echoalpha5> and does it work?!
[14:50] <MacZed> sure!! greatlly!!! :-)
[14:50] <MacZed> it's an acer aspire 1 with kubuntu netbook
[14:51] <echoalpha5> iam quite interested how Googles Chrome OS will look like...
[14:51] <echoalpha5> nice!
[14:51] <echoalpha5> does the wlan work too?!
[14:52]  * faileas installed UNR on one of those. works well enough for me to get paid ;p
[14:52] <MacZed> yes everything works just out of the box (ehm I had to trick the modprobe.d for wlan)
[14:53] <MacZed> I tried moblin before..
[14:53] <echoalpha5> and did it work?!
[14:54] <MacZed> yes but it's not enough linux ;-)
[14:54] <MacZed> it's like a fedora with less options...
[14:54] <faileas> lol
[14:55] <echoalpha5> I tried Fedora a few month ago
[14:56] <MacZed> I also tried UNR but I'm for kde.. you know...
[14:56] <faileas> yeah
[14:56] <echoalpha5> have you heard of Googles plans to make a Linux Distribution for Netbooks?!
[14:56] <MacZed> yes but only rumors..
[14:56] <blacksands> you can already try it out
[14:56] <echoalpha5> there is already a beta
[14:56] <blacksands> its a joke
[14:57] <faileas> this was for a client, and i basically wanted something more stable than what she had. the KDE plasma netbook remix hadn't been out very long at the time
[14:57] <MacZed> I should go now... it's a perfect day for jogging (thus a lot windy)
[14:57] <echoalpha5> but Google has got the money to really push things forward
[14:57] <MacZed> bye guys see you
[14:57] <echoalpha5> cu
[14:58] <blacksands> the problem is googles concept
[14:58] <blacksands> its just a browser
[14:58] <faileas> blacksands: hmm, depends, really
[14:58] <faileas> a LOAD of things are doable via browsers now, and they seem to have a version of ffmpeg tailored to chrome
[14:58] <wesley> does anyone know why file transfer to msn on kopete is so slow?
[14:58] <echoalpha5> but for netbooks it is ideal to run all applications in the Internet
[14:59] <blacksands> i guess i agree that it coul be useful if you only needed the computer as an internet access point
[14:59]  * faileas notes though, i can't run dropbox on it, which is a bit annoying
[14:59] <blacksands> get docs and email and such
[14:59] <blacksands> but as for a viable home distro seems like the wrong direction
[15:00] <faileas> eheh
[15:00] <echoalpha5> I heard Google wants to develop a DEsktop Distribution also after the Netbook Distr.
[15:01] <faileas> one of my boxen is just ubuntu, the specific version of x for my hardware, swiftfox (lower prerequisites) . I still haven't found an IM client that fits what i want tho
[15:01] <blacksands> well that might be a different story
[15:01] <blacksands> i would like to see that
[15:01] <faileas> lol
[15:02] <faileas> i might pop an image up once i am happy with it
[15:02] <echoalpha5> But Google attacks Microsoft in its Core Market on the Desktop
[15:03] <faileas> and X won't work on anything other than intels most likely. I didn't install anything but xorg-intel
[15:04] <echoalpha5> the X86 CPU's are already a standard, the rest is not really important for the Desktop Market
[15:04] <faileas> well if its a browser appliance, no reason they can't use ARM
[15:05] <echoalpha5> Chrome is based on Java or?!
[15:05] <echoalpha5> than it should also work on ARM
[15:05] <faileas> c based, most likely, or c++
[15:05] <faileas> you can compile to architecture - hell there's a port of ubuntu to ARM i think
[15:05] <Karmic> hi
[15:06] <echoalpha5> oh yep its C++
[15:07] <faileas> there's only one mainstream browser written in java - the mobile version of opera
[15:15] <avihay> I'm guessing it's slow
[15:15] <faileas> eh
[15:16] <faileas> it works well enough for what it needs to do
[15:20] <Nete> Hello. In the default -- not classic menu of Kubuntu how do you edit, or add favorites?
[15:21] <faileas> Nete: try rightclicking on an item ;)
[15:22] <Nete> faileas: You can edit them if you do that.... but how to you add new?
[15:22] <faileas> well rightclick on an item thats not in your favourites, and add to favorites is an item?
[15:23] <faileas> er.. an item on the context menu
[15:23] <Nete> Thanks! that worked...
[15:24] <faileas> ^^
[15:26] <Nete> Anyone::::: How do you stop konquerer from being default browser?
[15:27] <faileas> Nete: hmm i did that. one moment ;p
[15:28] <faileas> system settings, default applications. some apps ahve their own way of handleing it so you may need to edit em seperately
[15:30] <faileas> i think i did it with kopete and konversation i think
[15:30] <Nete> faileas: Thanks... My feed widget opens firefox now... that's what I wanted.
[15:30] <faileas> lol
[15:30] <Peace-> !offtopic | Peace-
[15:31] <faileas> Nete: did you use the firefox installer they have hidden away, or a more 'normal' method of intall?
[15:32] <Nete> faileas: the firefox installer did not work. I used adept installer.
[15:32] <faileas> eh.
[15:32]  * faileas uses apt for everything, so i was wondering ;)
[15:34] <Nete> faileas: I just tried it again and it worked. So I don't know what the deal was....
[15:34] <faileas> lol
[15:35] <Nete> Anyone:::: Is there any way to arrange icons like in Windows Desktop?
[15:36] <KOPRajs> if I changed my swap partition and want Kubuntu to automatically mount it, where should I add it?
[15:38] <KOPRajs> is it just /etc/fstab or is this being generated by some higher level Ubuntu script?
[15:38] <faileas> Nete: er.. that i don't know. I never use my desktop >_>
[15:39] <KOPRajs> Nete: right click the desktop -> settings -> try changing desktop behaviour from "desktop" to "folder view"
[15:40] <Nete> faileas: it's still not aligning to grid or anything... Not that I really care.
[15:41] <Nete> KOPRajs: sorry, above is addressed to you
[15:42] <KOPRajs> Nete: in folder view mode there should be options in right click menu to align and such
[15:42] <Nete> KOPRajs: Dispay > align icons in grid...
[15:42] <Nete> I've got it
[16:07] <pc_> Hi yah everybody
[16:08] <pc_> Happy New Year!
[16:25] <sona> hello, I'n new to kubuntu, could somebody point out where xorg.conf is ? I've search the whole filesystem with no hits
[16:25] <Nete> Hello. After I download something in firefox and click "open containing folder" it asked me what program I want to open the file with. ALL I WANTED to do was veiw the containg folder. How can I fix this
[16:27] <iconmefisto> sona: xorg.conf doesn't exist by default in ubuntu systems any more
[16:28] <ice_age> Can anyone tell how to get lyrics in amwrok?
[16:28] <iconmefisto> Nete: choose /usr/bin/dolphin (the default kde file browser) and firefox should remember your choice
[16:29] <sona> iconmefisto: ok, can I create one in /etc/X11 or is there another way to get the correct resolution
[16:30] <iconmefisto> sona: yes, you can create one. have you tried setting res in systemsettings?
[16:30] <Nete> iconmefisto: Thanks. I thought Firefox would be smarter.
[16:31] <sona> iconmefisto: the correct resolution 1920x1200 is not listed there
[16:32] <sona> iconmefisto: but X uses the correct driver, how does it now what to use ?
[16:34] <iconmefisto> sona: I'm not sure how it works exactly, but X configures itself automatically these days. but you can still override things with a xorg.conf file
[16:35] <sona> iconmefisto: ok, thanks
[16:36] <ice_age> any amarok user here?
[16:37] <iconmefisto> ice_age: lyrics of the currently playing track should show up in the lyrics window
[16:37] <ice_age> it fetches but doesn,t show
[16:37] <ice_age> the lyrics exist as shown by rythmbox
[16:38] <iconmefisto> ice_age: you could try using a different lyrics script
[16:38] <ice_age> i tried all but no avail
[16:41] <iconmefisto> ice_age: have you tried ultimate lyrics? that's what I'm using and it works for most songs
[16:41] <ice_age> ok i will try it
[16:48] <ice_age> ok fine
[16:48] <ice_age> thanks iconmefisto it worked
[16:48] <iconmefisto> ice_age: ok great. which script were you using before?
[16:49] <ice_age> two or three i suppose such as wiki
[16:49] <ice_age> do you think they moved or expired
[16:51] <iconmefisto> you should only use one lyrics script. there may be updated scripts too. the source pages sometimes change formats etc and the script would need to do things differently to get the text from the page
[16:52] <ice_age> sorry i was using just lyrics wiki- the name is lyricswiki that was installed by default with amarok.
[16:52] <ice_age> The others two were not for lyrics
[16:53] <ice_age> Do you think lyricswiki has bug
[16:54] <ice_age> should i report it as bug?
[16:55] <ice_age> Any way i searched a hell lot in ubuntuforum but could not make it work. Thanks you solved a problem i have been searching for a week. Rhythmbox and bansee sucks (in interface)
[16:55] <iconmefisto> ice_age: I don't know. maybe. there may be an updated one if you look in "get more scripts". the button says "update" instead of "install" when there is a newer version of an installed script
[16:56] <petsounds> ice_age, what version of amarok?
[16:57] <ice_age> 2.2.0 that came with kubuntu 9.10 alternate cd install
[16:58] <petsounds> ice_age, update it. 2.2.1 fix lyrics problem
[16:58] <ice_age> ok i shall thanks anyway
[17:02] <jtheuer> hi, any way to convert from twiki wiki syntax to doxia (maven almostplaintext) ?
[17:12] <jkumar> Question: How to modify the default kubuntu boot splash?
[17:21] <Nete> Hello. I can play sound in Amarok, but I don't seem to get sound when watching videos in firefox. Do I need a driver?
[17:22] <rstob911> Nete: look in the kmix and make sure the pcm is all the way up
[17:23] <Nete> rstob911: Thanks.
[17:30] <jkumar> Nete: confirm sound is not "muted" in the embeded video player
[17:51] <Connie> Has the "vim-full' package been depricated? I get no love on karmic after an apt-get upadate && apt-get install vim-full
[18:00] <iconmefisto> !info vim-full
[18:01] <Connie> ok, alternatives to vim-tiny then?
[18:01] <iconmefisto> how about just vim ?
[18:01] <iconmefisto> !info vim
[18:03] <Connie> lol... I guess I need to wear my glasses.
[18:03] <iconmefisto> Connie: apt-cache search vim  will show other relevant packages
[18:04] <Connie> I don't know if this is the right place to state this, but vim-rails depends on the vim-full pkg and therfore fails
[18:04] <Connie> thnks for the help though!
[18:08] <crimsun> Connie: not in Lucid it doesn't
[18:09] <muhammad_> what ls command can be used to list files in this and all subdirectories with complete path?
[18:12]  * icedraven is hiding in the corner
[18:22] <stuq_> hey all, I'm running 4.3.85 (4.4 beta 2) and am having nepomuk/akonadi problems.  I'm finding references that tell me to install the sesame2 backend, but I'm not finding any good instruction on how to do that.  Can someone pls clue me in?
[18:27] <Hipster> Is there a simple way to make the Windows key open the K menu?
[18:34] <njathan> hey folks.... whats your favourite p2p app on kubuntu?
[18:37] <pompa_> hi everyone, After restarting my system everything disappeared, I had to start "Quassel IRC" using F2, No bars, widgets, nothing
[18:37] <pompa_> how can I do?
[18:44] <iconmefisto> pompa_: sounds like plasma has crashed. try alt-F2 and type  plasma-desktop
[18:45] <pompa_> iconmefisto: It is not working
[18:50] <webbb82> this is a dumb question but how do i burn a kubuntu install cd i have the .iso what app do i use do make it
[18:55] <jussi01> webbb82: in windows?
[18:56] <jussi01> webbb82: in windows: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[18:56] <jussi01> in kubuntu, use k3b
[19:20] <Digital_Pioneer> What's the kernel command line for Kubuntu Karmic supposed to look like? I opted not to install the bootloader, so I have no menu.lst for Kubuntu.
[19:29] <Guest43826> I'm running old hardware and want to use a LTS version of Kubuntu with XFCE 4.x. But my PC gives read errors immediately after I select "try Kubutu"
[19:29] <Guest43826> 7.1 and 8.x live CDs have same issues.
[19:39] <mauri> is sameone able to do videocall with amsn -farsifght2?
[19:39] <webbb82> hey i need a hand getting my graphics card driver installed  when i had ubuntu installed it found my ati graphics driver and it downloaded and installed but in kubuntu its not showing up in hardware drivers can someone give me a hand
[19:41] <svnt> webbb82: Bye a Nvida card
[19:42] <svnt> Works best in Linux!!
[19:42] <webbb82> well maybe but its in my laptop so cant do much about that
[19:46] <Digital_Pioneer> Can someone on Karmic please pastebin their /boot/grub/menu.lst for me?
[19:46] <svnt> webbb82: ATI have not so good support in Linux....
[19:47] <webbb82> i worked in ubuntu yesterday before i did a fresh install
[19:47] <webbb82> it worked
[19:48] <svnt> have you 32 ore 64?
[19:48] <webbb82> 64
[19:48] <Digital_Pioneer> I use ATI with pretty decent success, open source drivers, albeit a few quirks in the 3D.
[19:48] <svnt> Radion ?
[19:48] <svnt> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[19:48] <webbb82> AMD
[19:49] <svnt> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.22&lang=English
[19:50] <Digital_Pioneer> webbb82: If you want the proprietary drivers for ATI cards, you'll need Catalyst. If you want open source drivers, you'll need recent GIT builds of Mesa, xf86-video-ati and libdrm and kernel >= 2.6.32
[19:51] <Digital_Pioneer> There's probably a PPA for them somewhere.
[19:51] <webbb82> its aa amd turion m6000
[19:52] <svnt> Digital_Pioneer: why not install driver form ATI?
[19:52] <Digital_Pioneer> webbb82: That's your processor. We need to know your video card. :) `lspci | grep VGA`
[19:52] <svnt> webbb82: what gxf chip?
[19:52] <Digital_Pioneer> svnt: That's Catalyst.
[19:52] <Digital_Pioneer> svnt: Better to use the packages, though.
[19:52] <svnt> ok..
[19:53] <webbb82> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9712
[19:53] <svnt> ok
[19:53] <webbb82> sorry i was having a issue finding terminal lol
[19:54] <Digital_Pioneer> That doesn't tell me much... I wonder if your pciids are up-to-date...
[19:54] <webbb82> i need to reboot i just did a update maybe that fixed it
[19:54] <Digital_Pioneer> Mine looks like this: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
[19:54] <webbb82> i should ad the restricted extras
[19:55] <webbb82> ill be back in a min i gotta reboot
[19:55] <Digital_Pioneer> OK
[19:57] <svnt> Digital_Pioneer: i run 9.10 is it Karmic
[19:57] <Digital_Pioneer> svnt: Kubuntu 9.10 is Karmic, yes.
[19:57] <svnt> i can send you the file
[19:57] <Digital_Pioneer> Can you pastebin it?
[19:58] <webbb82> ok im back
[19:58] <Digital_Pioneer> http://www.pastebin.ca/
[19:58] <Digital_Pioneer> Or http://www.pastebin.com/ or any number of others. :P
[19:58] <Digital_Pioneer> webbb82: WB
[19:58] <webbb82> WB ?
[19:58] <svnt> What?
[19:58] <Digital_Pioneer> webbb82: I assume you want 3D support, yes?
[19:58] <Digital_Pioneer> WB==Welcome Back
[19:59] <webbb82> oh after the update hardware drivers found  ATI/AMD proprietary fglrx graphics driver
[20:00] <Digital_Pioneer> webbb82: That'll get you 3D with the proprietary drivers.
[20:00] <svnt> Digital_Pioneer: no menu.list
[20:00] <Digital_Pioneer> svnt: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:00] <Digital_Pioneer> No i
[20:01] <webbb82> the activate button is green but when i press it nothin happens
[20:01] <svnt> Have no /boot/menu.list
[20:01] <Digital_Pioneer> .............................................................
[20:01] <Digital_Pioneer>  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:02] <stuq_> hey all, I'm running 4.3.85 (4.4 beta 2) and am having nepomuk/akonadi problems.  I'm finding references that tell me to install the sesame2 backend, but I'm not finding any good instruction on how to do that.  Can someone pls clue me in?
[20:02] <svnt> NO i dont have the file...
[20:02] <Digital_Pioneer> You have to have that file. Otherwise the system won't boot. :)
[20:03] <svnt> Digital_Pioneer: Strange....
[20:03] <Digital_Pioneer> Oh well, I'll compromise.
[20:03] <webbb82> hardware drivers shows the driver i need but when i clikc the green activate button nothing happens
[20:03] <svnt> /boot/grub$ ls
[20:03] <svnt> 915resolution.mod  cdboot.img      efiemu.mod   hello.mod      mdraid.mod      part_sun.mod  serial.mod        vbeinfo.mod
[20:03] <svnt> acpi.mod           chain.mod       elf.mod      help.mod       memdisk.mod     parttool.lst  setjmp.mod        vbe.mod
[20:03] <svnt> affs.mod           cmp.mod         ext2.mod     hexdump.mod    memrw.mod       parttool.mod  sfs.mod           vbetest.mod
[20:03] <svnt> afs_be.mod         command.lst     extcmd.mod   hfs.mod        minicmd.mod     password.mod  sh.mod            vga.mod
[20:03] <FloodBotK1> svnt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <webbb82> wtf
[20:03] <svnt> afs.mod            configfile.mod  fat.mod      hfsplus.mod    minix.mod       pci.mod       sleep.mod         vga_text.mod
[20:05] <svnt> Opps
[20:08] <jussi01> webbb82: please use "sudo jockey-text" from the commandline, there is a bug in the gui version
[20:08] <webbb82> jussi01: what did that do
[20:09] <jussi01> webbb82: you tried it?
[20:09] <webbb82> ya
[20:09] <jussi01> hrm... I was under the impression it should give some options, I may be missing something
[20:10] <webbb82> in hardware drivers it shows the driver but its not active the green activate button is lit up but when i click it nothing downloads
[20:12] <theoros> i'm trying to install kubuntu via wubi on vista home premium and for some reason, even after running chkdsk /r i get "can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found" and "could not find the ISO /ubuntu/install/installation.iso" when booting up
[20:13] <theoros> wubi and the kubuntu 9.10 iso are on the desktop and had no problems running
[20:16] <webbb82> i found a few packages that are the driver i need fglrx
[20:16] <webbb82> is this it fglrx-kernel-source
[20:17] <webbb82> xorg-driver-fglrx-dev           or  glrx-kernel-source  or xorg-driver-fglrx or fglrx-amdcccle
[20:24] <webbb82> ok well that didnt work i still cant click activate
[20:25] <webbb82> i can but nothing happens
[20:30] <terranair> Kubuntu RLZ!
[20:33] <webbb82> ATI/AMB FGLRX driver problems i cant get my driver
[21:16] <paco_> hey guys
[21:17] <paco_the_taco> is there anyway to get more windows boarders other than the ones installed by default on kubuntu 9.10
[21:21] <apparle> paco_the_taco: what do you mean more borders?
[21:21] <paco_the_taco> apparle,  the thing on the top of all windows
[21:22] <apparle> look in appearance in system settings... I don't remeber
[21:23] <paco_the_taco> yeah, theres a couple default ones installed, but im wondering if there is more than just that
[21:23] <paco_the_taco> that i can download or something
[21:26] <e_t_> paco_the_taco: you can look at www.kde-look.org
[21:27] <paco_the_taco> thank you e_t_.
[21:29] <apparle> anyone used samsung corby ?
[21:42] <_2> is it quiet in here or is it just me ?
[21:42] <paco_the_taco> its quiet. lol
[21:44] <rstob911> shhhh you will wake them
[21:47]  * paco_the_taco hurries and goes to his corner
[21:47] <paco_the_taco> dont wake em 2!
[21:50] <MetroidMaster> Hey, does anyone know how to set up a Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 on Ubuntu 9.10?
[21:52] <e_t_> MetroidMaster: set it up for what?
[21:58] <snarkster> having issues with printing to a linux shared printer from vista.. anyone got any clues?
[22:03] <e_t_> snarkster: what kind of issues are you having?
[22:03] <snarkster> I get access denied and no test page
[22:04] <snarkster> but it has no problems access the shared files
[22:04] <e_t_> Has your setup worked before?
[22:04] <snarkster> well right now the vista box can access the files, read and write
[22:04] <snarkster> but she just cant print
[22:05] <e_t_> But did printing work in the past and now does not work?
[22:06] <snarkster> no this is the first time ive tried printing
[22:06] <e_t_> OK. Be sure that you are sharing the printer in Samba.
[22:06] <snarkster> well i believe i am
[22:07] <snarkster> my linux laptop has no issue printing to it
[22:07]  * lwieise87 is away: Gone away for now
[22:09] <e_t_> snarkster: what tool did you use to configure Samba?
[22:09] <snarkster> thanx for your help. i got some help in the samba channel now
[22:10] <snarkster> i used the kde printer configurator
[22:11] <_2> browse http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631
[22:12] <snarkster> oh thank you very much
[22:14] <Guest88173> I am trying to compile rekonq on kubuntu 9.10 and getting this error "CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindQt4.cmake:1432"
[22:14] <Guest88173> which package do i need to install from KPackageKit? searching QT4 shows lot's of packages
[22:16] <_2> has ubuntu fixed the "as root" stupidity, which has plaged it from day one?     you know the insistance that sudo/gksu/kdesu... be used for all admin processessess; and that the hacks all say something like "sudo -u root -- blah"  which of course fails if root doesn't exist or is not superuser...    while using UID=0 never fails...  ?
[22:17] <e_t_> Guest88173: I believe you need the package "qt4-qmake"
[22:17] <qwas> }{ello
[22:19] <qwas> привет усем
[22:19] <e_t_> _2: ?
[22:20] <_2> e_t_ the assumption that superuser==root rather than respecting that the name can easily be changed
[22:21] <e_t_> Why on earth would you change root's name?
[22:21] <Guest16478> I am trying to compile rekonq on kubuntu 9.10 and getting this error "CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindQt4.cmake:1432"
[22:21] <Guest16478> which package do i need to install from KPackageKit? searching QT4 shows lot's of packages
[22:21] <_2> e_t_ why not ?    other than the fact that ubuntu developers assume that no one will do that
[22:22] <e_t_> Guest16478: "qt4-qmake"
[22:22] <e_t_> _2: so, just to be difficult and non-conformist?
[22:23] <_2> tighter security maybe too
[22:23] <_2> but what you said will work.
[22:24] <Guest16478> e_t_: I just installed
[22:24] <Guest16478> Package Name:
[22:24] <Guest16478> qt4-qmake
[22:24] <Guest16478> and still getting this error
[22:24] <Guest16478> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindQt4.cmake:640 (MESSAGE):
[22:24] <Guest16478>   Could NOT find QtCore header
[22:24] <FloodBotK1> Guest16478: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <_2> looks like qt4-dev   or some such
[22:27] <Nete> Hello, On Windows I could easily subscribe to RSS feeds. In Firefox on Kubuntu I click on an rss feed link, Techcrunch to be exact, and no page opens asking what I want to suscribe with.
[22:30] <echoalpha5> You need a Program or a Firefox Plugin to read the RSS
[22:30] <e_t_> Nete: Yeah, I don't know quite how to set it up in Firefox. I use Akregator for RSS, and if you copy the XML (from the address bar) to the clipboard, Akgregator will catch it when you click feed > add
[22:30] <Nete> Solved: Edit > Preferences > Applications > Web feeds: Preview in FF.
[22:31] <Nete> Now when I click on an rss it opens the "subscribe with" stuff :)
[22:34] <Nete> >>> Aaaaaaaaaaarggggggggg.. When I click on "Subscribe Now" with thunderbird.desktop NOTHING happens. :(
[22:35] <e_t_> Nete: try /usr/bin/thunderbird instead of .desktop
[22:37] <Nete> e_t_: Nothing. I can just manually add feeds in TB every time. But I wanted to make my life simpler.
[23:00] <K350> The kmenu doesn't open when altering alt+F1. How can I fix that?
[23:04] <icedraven> Anyone able to help me fix a desklet to my email?
[23:05] <icedraven> Its Sidecandy Boxmail 0.50.0, im using Kontact (KMail) for my e-mail client but I cant find the directory it needs to check the email
[23:10] <mauri> I have this error using amsn "libv4lconvert: Error decompressing JPEG: unknown huffman code: 0000ffff"
[23:14] <icedraven> Does anyone know the directory that kmail emails are stored?
[23:14] <zerocool> ку
[23:14] <e_t_> icedraven: I think Kmail stores email in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail
[23:15] <zerocool> кто поможет?
[23:16] <e_t_> !ru
[23:17] <mauri> I have this error using amsn "libv4lconvert: Error decompressing JPEG: unknown huffman code: 0000ffff"
[23:18] <e_t_> mauri: what are you doing when you get that error?
[23:23] <Cospey> hi
[23:26] <mauri> e_t_: starting a video call with messegner
[23:26] <mauri> e_t_: starting a video call with messegner amsn
[23:35] <e_t_> mauri: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[23:35] <mauri> e_t_: kubuntu karmic
[23:36] <e_t_> Hmm. A google search for your error turns up lots of problems, but they all seem to be related to Ubuntu Intrepid. Have you updated your kernel recently?
[23:38] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[23:45] <e_t_> mauri: try launching amsn with the command "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so amsn" (no quotes)
[23:49] <Keyn> can someone give me a quick command to create a large file, one word per line, starting with test-NNNN where N is a random number?
[23:51] <mauri> e_t_: thank a lot but I've already tried it
[23:53] <e_t_> mauri: I thought I read that this was related to a kernel module not being loaded. You might try reinstalling linux-image-generic and/or linux-headers-generic
[23:54] <mauri> e_t_: thanka a lot but these are two actions more difficult for me...im not an expert
[23:55] <e_t_> mauri: it should be no more complicated than installing any other software package. Just use apt-get (or aptitude) like normal.
[23:56] <mauri> e_t_: i can try... i think not having the headers
[23:57] <mauri> e_t_: asking to amsn people...they said that the problem is related to gspca_zc3xx driver
[23:58] <mauri> e_t_: and they suggested me to update my kernel....
[23:58] <e_t_> They probably know better than I do