[06:53] <didrocks> good morning
[06:53] <seb128> hey didrocks & desktopers
[06:53] <didrocks> hey seb128
[07:49] <dholbach> good morning
[07:51] <didrocks> hey dholbach
[07:51] <dholbach> salut didrocks
[07:57] <flocculant> morning didrocks :)
[07:57] <didrocks> hey flocculant!
[08:05] <larsu> good morning!
[08:05] <didrocks> good morning larsu
[08:06] <larsu> how are you didrocks?
[08:07] <didrocks> I'm good, thanks! how about you?
[08:07] <larsu> good, but about to go to the dentist (already in a cafe next to it) - might not be so good in an hour ;)
[08:07] <didrocks> argh, good luck!
[08:09] <larsu> thanks :)
[08:43] <seb128> hey dholbach larsu
[08:43] <dholbach> salut seb128
[08:44] <seb128> I was out getting some food, empty fridge after holidays
[08:45] <MNTS> Hello, how can I update android-studio installed using ubuntu-make?
[08:46] <didrocks> MNTS: you should have android studio itself proposing updates
[08:47] <didrocks> then, you just accept it, you don't need ubuntu make for it, we let the upstream tool doing the update (as it knows better than us)
[08:47] <alexarnaud> Goodmorning all!
[08:47] <didrocks> good morning alexarnaud
[08:47] <MNTS> didrocks: OK I'l check
[08:59] <willcooke> morning all
[09:00] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[09:01] <willcooke> hi didrocks
[09:01] <Laney> yo yo yo
[09:01] <didrocks> morning Laney
[09:01] <Laney> hi didrocks!
[09:01] <Laney> how's it going?
[09:02] <didrocks> I'm good, thanks! How about you?
[09:06] <Laney> ooooooooh pretty good
[09:06] <Laney> got to destroy the christmas tree today
[09:07]  * Laney bought a saw just for the purpose
[09:09] <willcooke> ah yes, I need to chop the tree up so the bin men will take it away
[09:10] <willcooke> which means going in to the shed
[09:10] <willcooke> with the spiders
[09:10] <didrocks> sad tree…
[09:10] <willcooke> meh, I'll take it to the tip myself on August bank holiday
[09:10] <Laney> it'll be turned into lovely chips
[09:11] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney
[09:11] <willcooke> morning seb128
[09:15] <Laney> hey seb128
[09:15]  * Laney meows
[09:15] <seb128> cat enabled Laney!
[09:16] <Laney> I forgot what time they are coming and even if it is really today
[09:16]  * Laney should learn to write things down
[10:17] <seb128> larsu, so, did you manage to get the nautilus menubar thing done before the holidays?
[10:43] <willcooke> when you ctrl-W your browser window instead of shift-W
[10:46] <Laney> and you use lastpass with yubikey 2fa and your keys are missing and you need to sign into ubuntu sso
[10:46] <Laney> nooooooooOOOooOOOoooOOOOo
[10:50] <seb128> unfortunate effect of having a name starting with a W :p
[10:50] <willcooke> :)
[11:21] <willcooke> popping out for early lunch to get a hair cut, bbl
[11:43] <desrt> moin.
[11:53] <xnox> google chrome makes unity crash on wily from time to time, making me loose my work =(
[11:54] <xnox> any thoughts? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14419413/
[11:55]  * xnox ponders if i should change to some other desktop environment.
[11:55]  * willcooke - back
[11:56] <willcooke> xnox, qengho might have an idea
[11:56] <willcooke> morning desrt
[11:56] <xnox> qengho, any idea about http://paste.ubuntu.com/14419413/ ? e.g. eventually, from time to time, actions in google chrome crash unity7 which takes all of desktop session with it =(
[11:58] <desrt> willcooke: hi
[12:22] <chrisccoulson> xnox, I don't think it's making unity crash - it's making X crash, isn't it?
[12:22] <chrisccoulson> Don't you get a crash report (or a trace at the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old)?
[12:31] <xnox> chrisccoulson, i do =)
[12:32] <xnox> ... but it's not very useful =(
[12:32] <xnox> chrisccoulson, qengho http://paste.ubuntu.com/14419632/
[12:40] <Laney> seb128: want to promote gnome-calendar?
[13:13] <seb128> Laney, hey, can do?
[13:16] <seb128> ?->!
[13:17] <seb128> hey desrt
[13:57] <attente> hi all
[13:57] <didrocks> good morning attente
[13:58] <attente> hi didrocks!
[14:00] <willcooke> morning attente
[14:00] <attente> morning willcooke
[14:02] <seb128> hey attente
[14:02] <seb128> no larsu today?
[14:03] <attente> hi seb128 :)
[14:04] <Laney> seb128: woot!
[14:06] <seb128> Laney, larsu, if you add a custom location to the tz list from u-c-c, the entry is bigger than it should be, do you have any idea if that's a theme or gtk issue?
[14:11] <Laney> seb128: hmm, wasn't always like that
[14:11] <Laney> but not sure straight away
[14:13] <Laney> I hope someone reworks that UI when it's ported to geonames ;-)
[14:17] <seb128> Laney, the geonames port of u-c-c landed before holidays
[14:17] <seb128> but unsure if that include that subdialog?
[14:17] <Laney> oh didn't know
[14:42] <Laney> can't think where there is another completion entry
[14:42] <Laney> editable entry even
[14:43] <Laney> seb128: did you do that promotion?
[14:45] <seb128> Laney, not yet, did you seed it yet? I wanted to check the issues pointed in the Mir first, but I'm just updating my system from before holidays state
[14:46] <seb128> getting there ;-)
[14:46] <Laney> yep
[14:46] <seb128> oh, we are in sync with Debian now, nice
[14:47] <Laney> didn't realise there was an extra layer of checking required, I can unseed if you want
[14:47] <seb128> though I guess that's not going to stay this way
[14:47] <seb128> no, don't worry
[14:47] <seb128> there is no extra layer, I just wanted to give a try before running the command
[14:47] <seb128> just being a bit slow still ;-)
[14:48] <Laney> might be able to if we can get some solution on the configuration stuff upstream
[14:48] <Laney> sync that is
[14:48] <seb128> right
[14:48] <Laney> will look soon
[14:48] <seb128> great
[14:48] <seb128> did we end up having anyone looking at the theme in the context of google code in?
[14:48]  * Laney checks out what pcre3 done did to break itself
[14:48] <Laney> dunno
[14:48] <seb128> I didn't follow up at all what was going on with those contributions
[14:49] <seb128> since they are not so much on our standard irc/lists
[14:49] <seb128> still curious to see the outcome :-)
[15:02] <didrocks> seb128: unfortunately, nothing on the theme
[15:03] <seb128> didrocks, nobody interested? or just not outcome yet?
[15:10] <willcooke> I chased the guy who was going to work on it yesterday
[15:10] <willcooke>  oh
[15:10] <willcooke> wait
[15:10] <willcooke> I have a reply...
[15:11] <willcooke> he's going to start on it real soon now
[15:11] <seb128> cool
[15:13] <willcooke> good timing
[16:01] <seb128> woot
[16:01] <seb128> mdeslaur, thanks for merging samba!
[16:01] <seb128> I was going to look at that today or tomorrow but didn't find the motivation to start on it yet
[16:06] <mdeslaur> seb128: np!
[16:20] <alexarnaud> didrocks: do you knows how compiz manage settings ? I explain me above.
[16:21] <didrocks> alexarnaud: what do you mean? It's storing them per profile in dconf
[16:21] <alexarnaud> 0) I've modified the file /usr/share/glib*/schemas/10_compiz-gnome.gschema.override and recompile the gsettings with the apprioriate command
[16:22] <alexarnaud> 1) I restart lightdm to restart gsettings service
[16:22] <alexarnaud> 2) I've launch CCSM first time and move from ini to gsettings but my settings doesn't affect Compiz
[16:23] <alexarnaud> didrocks: yes I can see profile but maybe something I don't know
[16:23] <didrocks> alexarnaud: weird, you should look if the changes are stored in gsettings/dconf with dconf-editor
[16:24] <didrocks> should be in org.compiz.profiles
[16:25] <alexarnaud> didrocks: if I understand, at first time, CCSM/compiz defines default profile with value of override file ?
[16:25] <didrocks> exactly
[16:25] <alexarnaud> (override file situated in /usr/share/glib2_*)
[16:25] <didrocks> (so, it's only once it's launched first that the Default profile is created)
[16:26] <alexarnaud> OK, maybe I should check better
[16:26] <alexarnaud> thanks didrocks
[16:26] <didrocks> alexarnaud: introspect with dconf-editor, it's the best way :)
[16:26] <didrocks> yw!
[16:29] <alexarnaud> ksamak_: I think I'm in the right way for Compiz configuration. I've discussed with didrocks and I understand the way Compiz et GSettings interact but for some reason my test configuration fails
[16:57] <alexarnaud> didrocks: do you know any tool to generation override from existing profile ? I've searched on net but I didn't find it
[16:57] <didrocks> alexarnaud: I don't think that exist, you have to do it by hand I guess
[16:58] <alexarnaud> didrocks: OK
[17:16] <larsu> seb128: sorry was off because I didn't feel well today. Nautilus is still in progress :(
[17:24] <seb128> larsu, no worries, get better!
[17:24] <seb128> time for some tennis here
[17:24] <seb128> bbl
[17:25] <larsu> seb128: enjoy
[17:35] <didrocks> enjoy seb128
[17:53]  * didrocks waves good evening and good bye!
[17:53] <Laney> byeeeeeeeeee!
[17:54] <didrocks> see you tomorrow Laney :)
[17:54] <Laney> be good!
[18:19] <willcooke> gnight all.  Off tomorrow, back Friday.
[21:53] <Laney> so G_PARAM_CONSTRUCT confuses me a little bit
[21:53] <Laney> does it mean something like "this object is not valid until this property has been set?"
[21:57] <Laney> like without it the object is constructed and then g_object_set is called for the passed parameters
[21:59] <Laney> if the initial value is not user supplied is it okay to just initialise in _init?


[04:08] <Logan_> is it a known issue that MoM is down?
[04:09] <stgraber> yes
[04:42] <ScottK> Logan_: It's all in the same data center with LP and tons of other stuff.
[04:44] <Logan_> ah, got it
[17:16] <kdeuser56> xnox: did you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1329810 ?
[21:34] <vicTROLLA> thats unsurprising. libuuid is crazy unstable
[22:05] <Noskcaj> why did libquvi get published in universe instead of main?
[22:18] <infinity> Noskcaj: It was demoted in trusty.
[22:18]  * infinity re-promotes.
[22:18] <Noskcaj> totem-pl-parser will need a rebuild to catch it
[22:18] <Noskcaj> thanks
[22:18] <Noskcaj> *retry
[22:19] <infinity> Noskcaj: Should sort itself in half an hour or so.
[22:19] <Noskcaj> cool
[23:08]  * psusi pokes infinity
[23:17] <infinity> psusi: Yes, I'm sorting it out this week, honest.  With cherries on top.
[23:17] <Logan_> darkxst: just a quick note - you don't have to ask people for whom you sponsored syncs, etc. to unsubscribe ~ubuntu-sponsors after you have sponsored the fix

[23:18] <Logan_> darkxst: they leave the queue if they're fixed, so no further action is required
[23:18] <Logan_> hey infinity :)
[23:18] <Logan_> brb, being taught how to cook by a friend (let's see how this goes)
[23:18] <infinity> Noskcaj: Whoops, missed libthingee-scripts.  Promoted that and trying again after the next publisher.
[23:18] <infinity> Logan_: Try not to set fire to anything.
[23:18] <Logan_> no utopic unicorns were harmed in the making of this food
[23:19] <darkxst> Logan_, ok
[23:24] <infinity> Noskcaj: You can retry those totem-pl-parser builds (again) in about 20 minutes.  I have to take off and not be around a computer for a few hours.
[23:24] <infinity> Noskcaj: Or, if you can't do that, I'll do it when I get back. :P


[03:46] <robert_ancell> hughhalf, hey, can I ask you some questions about the language requirements we were discussion about lightdm?
[03:47] <robert_ancell> probably best discussed in #ubuntu-desktop
[07:54] <didrocks> good morning
[07:59] <ricotz> slangasek, hello, perhaps you could take a look at this libgcrypt update -- http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/libgcrypt11/
[08:32] <dholbach> good morning
[10:02] <jml> hello
[10:03] <ajmitch> jml: hi
[10:04] <jml> ajmitch: hi :)
[10:14] <cjwatson> mvo: do you think python-apt's data.tar.xz support could be SRUed to lucid-updates for LP, or is it going to need to be a lucid-cat special?
[10:22] <Laney> how do I do git reset --hard origin in bzr?
[10:23] <mvo> cjwatson: I think we can SRU that
[10:27] <cjwatson> Laney: bzr revert; bzr uncommit -r:parent
[10:27] <Laney> cheers
[10:28] <Laney> bzr: ERROR: exceptions.TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'NoneType' and 'int'
[10:28] <Laney> :-)
[10:34] <cjwatson> Laney: well, I was assuming you actually had a :parent
[10:34] <cjwatson> you can use a specific revision number to -r instead
[10:34] <Laney> cjwatson: I do
[10:42] <Laney> cjwatson: I did bzr pull -r:parent --overwrite — seems to have worked
[10:43] <Laney> seems like the problem was trying to uncommit to a revision not in the history
[11:05] <cjwatson> Laney: ah, yeah, if the parent had moved on
[11:06] <cjwatson> I suspect something involving ancestor: would've worked too
[13:06] <doko> jhunt: upstart now built successfully on armel, I think you could revert back to build libnih with -Os on armel again
[13:09] <infinity> doko: Shiny.
[13:10] <infinity> doko: What fixed it?
[13:11] <doko> infinity: #791315
[13:14] <infinity> doko: Hrm.  I wonder if it might be time for a mass-give-back on armel.
[13:14] <infinity> (Well, maybe I'll do some selective ones)
[13:15] <doko> I doubt it. but then please wait until gcc-4.6.1 is uploaded and built for armel
[13:16] <infinity> doko: Yeah, not doing a mass give-back.  Honest.  Just remembered a few build failures that sounded suspiciously like they could relate to that particular glibc fix.
[13:38] <pitti> stgraber: edubuntu DVD built again, I fixed the langpack
[13:40] <Aquina> hello!
[13:41] <Aquina> Can someone point me to some config or thelike within the repo to get an impression on server and desktop kernel differences?
[13:56] <persia> Aquina, Get the "linux" source package, and look at the different configs therein.  If you have questions about the organisation of that source package, #ubuntu-kernel may be a more targeted place to ask.
[14:00] <Laney> persia maco Laney stgraber bdrung stgraber DMB ping
[14:00] <Laney> geser you too
[14:28] <geser> Laney: busy at work
[15:24] <zul> didrocks: can you have a look at bug #795089 please
[15:28] <stgraber> Laney: sorry, was on holiday today and forgot to send an e-mail to the DMB mailing list...
[15:28] <Laney> no worries, the agenda is hardly full anyway
[15:35] <dupondje> bind9 version of natty seems more recent than the version in Oneiric mmmm
[15:39] <cjwatson> dupondje: will be fixed in the next publisher run, thanks
[15:41] <dupondje> thx
[15:53] <seb128> doko, let's move there
[15:53] <seb128> it's private because it's an apport segfault and it could contain password or other infos
[15:53] <seb128> I don't but it got 5 duplicates since yesterday
[15:57] <seb128> doko, in fact it could be a gdm bug, ignore the ping for now
[16:00] <jamespage> hey - please could a member of the archive team reject metainf-services from the NEW queue - thankyou
[16:05] <dupondje> Can somebody trigger a rebuild for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ispell ?
[16:06] <dupondje> its ftbfs because of broken dpkg some time ago it seems )
[16:06] <dupondje> :)
[16:07] <cjwatson> dupondje: indeed.  done
[16:12] <tumbleweed> zul: your python-mox upload doesn't look like it called dh_python2 during build
[16:13] <zul> tumbleweed: crappers
[16:31] <Daviey> doko: Hey!  Can you clarify the reasoning for using dh_pysupport for bug 798362?  I thought we were supposed to be phasing it out, in favour of dh_python2?
[18:04] <dupondje> cjwatson: are you working on courier ?
[19:00] <Quibus> tumbleweed: we registered openMSX at Launchpad now :-)
[19:03] <tumbleweed> Quibus: hope you find it useful
[19:06] <Quibus> tumbleweed: it doesn't seem to automatically couple to the sf.net stuff
[19:07] <doko> Daviey: thinko. should be dh_python2
[19:08] <tumbleweed> Quibus: it won't. But (if you tell it the project uses sf for bugs) it should let you link the bug to sf. You still have to file it there manually.
[19:18] <sveinse> Is it possible to override/set the version in a package in a multi binary package, or is this always linked against changelog/the source package?
[19:19] <micahg> sveinse: yes, you can
[19:20] <sveinse> micahg: How do you do that?
[19:20] <Daviey> doko: ah!  makes sense.
[19:20] <micahg> sveinse: thunderbird is doing it now for the locales
[19:20] <directhex> can someone push nunit through binary new, so i can upload the updates for the packages that it breaks?
[19:25] <sveinse> micahg: Thunderbird on Oneiric? I didnt find anything (after a quick glance) in the natty sources
[19:27] <micahg> sveinse: yes, check debian/rules in oneiric
[19:48] <sveinse> micahg: Sorry, but I can't seem to find the magic in the debian/rules file. I don't see how the version number is overridden
[19:49] <micahg> sveinse: line 122
[19:50] <sveinse> Is the DEB_DH_GENCONTROL_ARGS var automatically passed to dh_gencontrol?
[19:52] <micahg> it appears to be a per package argument that's passed
[19:52] <sveinse> jup, I see the makefile things of this. I'm just wondering how this is passed on to dh_xx
[19:53] <micahg> appears to be automagical
[19:53] <sveinse> dh_gencontrol doesn't seem to be overriden at least
[19:53] <dupondje> Somebody knows how to get pbuilder-dist have umask 0022 ?
[20:17] <nh2> is there an API for the message indicator I can use to check if it is green (new message) or that tells me when it turns green?
[20:18] <bdrung_> Laney: sorry. i was busy and forgot to let you know
[20:29] <dupondje> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631087
[20:30] <dupondje> seems we have this in ubuntu also
[20:30] <dupondje> :s
[20:37] <`26> I'm trying to build a LiveCD image from scratch and I can't find the build scripts anywhere. Have I not been looking deep enough or are they simply not available?
[23:03] <dupondje> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631087 => I hope somebody can look at this bug. It affects Oneiric also :(
[23:18] <faina> The // makes me think that one of the $DIST variables isn't being set?
[23:27] <faina> Hi. I tried building a new pbuilder on a 11.04 system and it worked for me. Though I have fairly customized .pbuilderrc