[04:51] <ubotu> bochs: IA-32 PC emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-2 (feisty), package size 811 kB, installed size 2568 kB
[04:51] <d3vdil> sudo apt-get install bochs
[04:51] <d3vdil> but don't work
[04:52] <DrHalan> trekdanne i dont have firefox
[04:52] <SlimeyPe1e> !qemu
[04:52] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[04:52] <SlimeyPe1e> d3vdil: try qemu
[04:53] <d3vdil> stdin, do you use bochs
[04:53] <stdin> nope
[04:53] <d3vdil> ok thanx all
[04:53] <SlimeyPe1e> !universe | d3vdil
[04:53] <ubotu> d3vdil: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:53] <d3vdil> i will try it
[04:54] <trekdanne> DrHalan: no you don't have to
[04:55] <trekdanne> DrHalan: konqueror can use netscape-styled plugins
[04:58] <BluesKaj> d3vdil, you may have to edit your sources.list
[04:59] <d3vdil> BluesKaj, edit sources.list??
[05:00] <trekdanne> d3vdil: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:04] <d3vdil> I use  6.10 (Edgy), so i update the sources.list to (Feisty)
[05:04] <BluesKaj> d3vdil, check the /etc/apt/sources.list by alt+f2 : kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and look for lines (sources that are commented out) that have # in front of deb... delete the # , save and try to install your app
[05:04] <stdin> bochs is in edgy, it's in universe
[05:05] <d3vdil> ok now it's clear
[05:06] <yeniklasor> stdin : Am I wrong? "sudo sshfs yeniklasor@<IP_ADDRESS>:videos /mnt/ssh/"  ?
[05:07] <stdin> yeniklasor: no need for sudo, and you need the full path, just do something like "sshfs user@host:/home/user/videos /home/me/videos"
[05:08] <yeniklasor> stdin ok
[05:10] <ksivaji> stdin  is there any command to check CPU temperature ?
[05:10] <Mr56k> Anyone no the best brand laptops "a few" that work good with linux? Like hardware just working so you don't have to manually get stuff running
[05:11] <stdin> Mr56k: dell sell laptops with linux (ubuntu) installed
[05:11] <Mr56k> also intel or amd boards one working better then the rest
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: Ubuntu Dells
[05:11] <Mr56k> ok thx stdin, I will check those out
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> intel (for laptops)
[05:12] <stdin> ksivaji: try the ksensors package
[05:12] <Mr56k> anything else? Dells i have to order on www. . I was hoping to buy one locally
[05:12] <stdin> ksivaji: if you just want a command "cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/temperature"
[05:13] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: get any intel laptop and they should pretty much work. try to get one with intel wireless and intel or nvidia graphics
[05:13] <yeniklasor> stdin : "sshfs user@host:/home/user/videos /home/me/videos" didn't worked
[05:14] <alexandros> hmmm this tftpd doesnt seem to be working:(
[05:14] <Mr56k> k thx
[05:14] <genii> Mr56k: Most Lenovo have linux-friendly hardware
[05:14] <stdin> yeniklasor: you have to adapt the command to your circumstances
[05:14] <alexandros> I read all the tutorials there but still nothing
[05:14] <yeniklasor> yes i did
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> genii: but lenovo is oh so expensive...
[05:15] <ksivaji> my cpu temperature is 51C is it normal ?
[05:15] <alexandros> Im using dhtp and tftp in order to perform network boot
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> ksivaji: if you are on a laptop, I think its ok.
[05:15] <stdin> ksivaji: that's "cool"
[05:15] <ksivaji> no desktop pc
[05:15] <yeniklasor> ksivaji : more cool
[05:15] <genii> nosrednaekim: Well, this is true. My second choice would be some Satellite
[05:16] <yeniklasor> laptops more hot :)
[05:16] <nosrednaekim> ksivaji: well, ours ussually don't top 40C but I don't think 51 is dangerous
[05:16] <nosrednaekim> genii: yeah, those are nice too.
[05:16] <genii> ksivaji: You are well within limits. If it starts getting to 70 then be worried
[05:16] <alexandros> DHCP works ok but I think TFTPd is not
[05:16] <ksivaji> ho
[05:16] <alexandros> how can I check whether my tftp server is working?
[05:16] <ksivaji> thank you
[05:16] <alexandros> I installed it as a service inside inetd.conf
[05:17] <alexandros> and restarted the inted
[05:17] <genii> alexandros: do ps ax|grep tftp    you should see some result
[05:17] <nosrednaekim> ksivaji: especially if that is a pentium 4 ;)
[05:17] <alexandros> genii: no its not there
[05:17] <ksivaji> no i have AMD 64 athlon
[05:18] <nosrednaekim> ksivaji: oh ok..well that is a but hot for them. what is the room temperature?
[05:18] <nosrednaekim> *bit
[05:18] <genii> alexandros: Yes, then it's not starting. Do you have an entry in the /etc/init.d for it? Also is it executable
[05:18] <alexandros> yes I have an entry
[05:19] <alexandros> let me check if its executable
[05:19] <floppydj>  /msg nickserv link floppydj seapolperco
[05:19] <stdin> genii: "<alexandros> I installed it as a service inside inetd.conf" inetd runs it
[05:19] <ksivaji> nosrednaekim i dont have sensor or something to find room temperature
[05:19] <nosrednaekim> ksivaji: ok... w/e its probably ok.
[05:20] <genii> stdin: Ah, sorry. Perceptive of you
[05:20] <alexandros> root@froulis:/usr/sbin# ls -la in.tftpd
[05:20] <alexandros> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26704 2006-12-14 13:51 in.tftpd
[05:20] <alexandros> it is executable
[05:20] <alexandros> I also edited /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
[05:21] <stdin> ksivaji: my cpu has gotten up to 96C before, 50 is fine
[05:21] <genii> alexandros: What was the command in inted/xinetd you called for it? The actual binary is not named tftpd-hpa for instance
[05:22] <ksivaji> stdin ho thank you
[05:22] <Mr56k> anyone no if this machine will be compatible with Kubuntu http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8404256&type=product&id=1180743304925
[05:22] <genii> alexandros: It is something like /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
[05:22] <Mr56k> ?  Thanks
[05:22] <alexandros> ftp dgram udp wait  root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
[05:23] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: checking :)
[05:23] <alexandros> I meant:   tftp dgram udp wait  root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
[05:23] <handy> !it
[05:23] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:23] <nosrednaekim> stdin: get out the frying pan :)
[05:23] <Mr56k> Thanks nosrednaekim
[05:23] <juan> buen dia!!!
[05:23] <floppydj> no hay nadie espaol por aki
[05:23] <floppydj> ???
[05:24] <alexandros> genii: its inted.conf for me
[05:24] <alexandros> inetd.conf
[05:24] <BluesKaj> !es | floppydj
[05:24] <ubotu> floppydj: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:25] <floppydj> gracias
[05:26] <genii> alexandros: Is your inetd running?
[05:26] <alexandros> genii: I did: sudo update-inetd --enable BOOT
[05:27] <genii> alexandros: when you do   ps ax|grep inetd   does it show as running?
[05:27] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: at a cursory glance, it should work well, I have to check the wireless chipset though.
[05:27] <alexandros> yes
[05:27] <alexandros> genii:  7572 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
[05:28] <genii> alexandros: OK, please pastebin then your inetd.conf and i will examine for clues
[05:28] <Mr56k> yea wireless is very important... I no i can get the graphics and the rest working
[05:28] <Mr56k> but i use nothing but wireless at home :)
[05:28] <genii> alexandros: Or even just the line(s) which are for the tftpd
[05:28] <alexandros> ok!
[05:29] <coord> hehehehehe
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: ok.
[05:29] <Mr56k> It doesnt really say on there what wireless its using
[05:31] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: its a broadcom. junk.
[05:31] <genii> work, AFK 3-4 minutes
[05:31] <alexandros> ginii: it's just this line:
[05:31] <alexandros> tftp   dgram   udp     wait    root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin//sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
[05:32] <Mr56k> lol... So its prob not gona work  ?
[05:32] <Mr56k> That stinks
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: it will work with ndiswrapper.
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: but if you are going to buy a new laptop... get one that you don't need junk like that for
[05:34] <Mr56k> k, Thx for your help
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: try toshibas... they are ussually good
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: and intel acers as well.
[05:35] <Mr56k> ok. Will check in to those. I have about $750 to play with and need to pick someone up a laptop
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> But most of all I reccomend the ubuntu dells, or system76.
[05:35] <Mr56k> best buy and office depot are only ones close buy
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: compusa has some really good sales on right now.
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> $350 laptops
[05:36] <DrHalan> anyone else is getting empty messages from icq contacts in kopete?
[05:36] <Mr56k> yea no Compusa around here
[05:36] <Mr56k> :(
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> Mr56k: shipping is pretty fast from them, and its free...
[05:37] <Mr56k> I got staples, office depot, best buy... Thats it. well Wal-mart too lol, buy im not buying from them
[05:37] <nosrednaekim> haha
[05:37] <Mr56k> i will take a look.
[05:38] <Mr56k> anyways im off. Thanks for the help again. Talk to ya later
[05:38] <alyssa_> anyone have experience with openbravo and ubuntu?
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> ok
[05:41] <kipseron> i am in kubuntu and when i turned on the computer its show to me starting up and its dont starting
[05:41] <kipseron> ?
[05:43] <alyssa_> is it reboot cycling?
[05:43] <kipseron> are you talking to me?
[05:43] <alyssa_> kipseron: is it reboot cycling
[05:44] <genii> alexandros: I think you may want something more like: tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd in.tftpd /var/lib/tftpboot
[05:44] <kipseron> yes when i reboot and want to enter to system the login dont show up
[05:44] <alyssa_> kipseron: has it ever worked?
[05:44] <kipseron> yes
[05:45] <kipseron> before i do the restart my system worked well
[05:45] <alexandros> genii: I tried to run it as a command rather as a service
[05:45] <alexandros> and it shows on ps ax | grep tftp
[05:45] <inaety_> hello when i try to print in kword my borders come terribly off and everything seems right in the configuration..(X inch width, Y inch Border) but it comes off in my printer..
[05:45] <genii> alexandros: I have mine setup to run as a daemon, not from inted
[05:45] <alexandros> but even so, it still doesn't work
[05:46] <genii> alexandros: My ps ax|grep tftp :
[05:46] <alexandros> genii: I mean, it shows on the ps ax | grep tftp   but when the client tries to connect to the tftp host nothing happens
[05:46] <genii> alexandros: 5752 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -l -c -p -s /var/lib/tftpboot -u root    <-- switches mine runs with from init.d
[05:46] <TheGateKeeper> !time
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <TheGateKeeper> !clock
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <DrHalan> the transparency doesnt work :(
[05:47] <alyssa_> tried console login then sudo kdm?
[05:47] <alexandros> ginii: what would happen if you connected to your localhost with tftp ?
[05:47] <genii> alexandros: I'll try, one moment
[05:48] <alexandros> thanks
[05:48] <Mr56k> So my Laptop takes like 2 minutes from powerup to get to login screen. It hangs for awhile during the Kubuntu progress bar. What can I do ?
[05:48] <stdin> Mr56k: disable the splash screen and see what it's stalling on
[05:48] <genii> alexandros: If i do tftp <IP_ADDRESS> I get a prompt fine
[05:49] <Mr56k> how do i do that???
[05:49] <Mr56k> press a key?
[05:49] <cedric_> he he
[05:49] <stdin> Mr56k: do you have the tftp client installed ?
[05:49] <alexandros> genii: can you try to do tftp <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[05:49] <stdin> Mr56k: opps
[05:50] <alexandros> genii: it seems like tftp doens care what ip you enter
[05:50] <stdin> Mr56k: not you
[05:50] <genii> alexandros: Trying
[05:50] <stdin> alexandros:  do you have the tftp client installed ?
[05:50] <alexandros> stdin: yes. I did apt-get install tftp
[05:50] <stdin> Mr56k: press Alt-F1 when booting to see
[05:50] <genii> alexandros: at the tftp> prompt put   connect hit enter
[05:50] <Mr56k> thx be right back
[05:50] <genii> then IP <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:51] <alexandros> thats what I did
[05:51] <alexandros> genii: but even if I entered IP <IP_ADDRESS>  it would still behave the exact same way
[05:52] <grendal_prime> we got a guy here that installed kubuntu but all his filenames just show up as  blocks..like he is missing a font or something. its a fiesty install
[05:52] <alexandros> stdin: is there any way to set this?
[05:52] <genii> alexandros: Put some file in /var/lib/tftpboot called something simple like test     then do tftp    then connect then local IP then go   get test   then quit and see if it put file tes in local dir
[05:52] <oxyram> hi everyone
[05:52] <stdin> alexandros: "sudo netstat -lp | grep tftp" may show it
[05:52] <alexandros> ok
[05:52] <genii> alexandros: If so then it works
[05:53] <genii> alexandros: Remember you cannot do ls or dir with tftp, you need to know the exact filename already
[05:55] <alexandros> stdin: it seems to be working
[05:55] <jthomas> !ati
[05:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:55] <Mr56k> Ok im back...   My boot is hanging on "Configuring Network Services" for over a minute. Before that and after that it flies. What can I do to speed the boot up ?
[05:55] <alexandros> genii: ok I received the file.
[05:56] <genii> alexandros: Then it works
[05:56] <alexandros> genii: however the laptop (client) responds "TFTP open timeout" when its trying to net boot
[05:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Mr56k: Maybe you are trying to use DHCP on a network with static IPs?
[05:57] <genii> alexandros: Is it getting an IP then starting the initrd process?
[05:57] <Mr56k> its my home connect. I have dsl that uses DHCP through a Linksysy wireless router
[05:57] <TheGateKeeper> where are the timezone config files?
[05:57] <Mr56k> anything I can try  ?
[05:57] <alexandros> genii: the client? it's getting an IP
[05:57] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: Hey! try tzconfig
[05:58] <alexandros> genii: I dont know about initrd process though
[05:58] <TheGateKeeper> hiya MilhousePunkRock how goes it? (BTW thanks :-) )
[05:58] <booya> !info K3b
[05:58] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 4912 kB, installed size 9404 kB
[05:59] <alexandros> genii: the fact that I could connect locally to my tftpd and retrieve a file means that the problem lies somewhere within the DHCP setting right?
[05:59] <genii> alexandros: Yes, that is my next place to look.
[05:59] <vincent> -join #kubuntu-nl
[05:59] <vincent> shit
[05:59] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: Other than I locked myself (or rather the laptop) out of the WLAN, I'm fine
[05:59] <Dreamore> Hello!
[05:59] <genii> alexandros: I have a generic dhcpd.conf you could use if you like
[05:59] <MilhousePunkRock> !language > vincent
[06:00] <alexandros> genii: that would be great
[06:00] <genii> alexandros: 1 minute, need to ssh ind grab it/pastebin it
[06:00] <booya> i have a problem :P
[06:00] <vincent> MilhousePunkRock: sorry
[06:00] <booya> what is the library for k3b to be able to burn mp3's ?
[06:00] <alexandros> ok!
[06:01] <alexandros> genii: altough I dont know how to receive a pastebin file
[06:01] <stdin> booya: libk3b2-mp3
[06:01] <TheGateKeeper> MilhousePunkRock: yeah :/ do you happen to to know which config file kubuntu uses in /etc/ for the clock, timezone etc?
[06:01] <booya> thanks stdin :P
[06:01] <Mr56k> My machine hangs at "Configuring Network Services" . Anyone think of anything I can try?
[06:01] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: Well, I don't know by heart, but I could look it up...
[06:01] <stdin> alexandros: you use open the url that genii posts
[06:02] <alexandros> stdin: sounds convenient:D
[06:02] <vincent> MilhousePunkRock: but saying sh(t isnt that bad= or are you Amish=
[06:02] <stdin> alexandros: that's why we use it :)
[06:02] <johnmc> do you have more than one card Mr56k
[06:02] <genii> bah forgot address (me bad)
[06:02] <genii> !paste | genii
[06:02] <Mr56k> nope its a laptop. Built in
[06:02] <stdin> vincent: it's against the IRC Guidelines  and the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
[06:03] <vincent> ok
[06:03] <stdin> genii: it's in the /topic
[06:03] <johnmc> I was doopid enough to spend an hour finding that when I first went to Ubuntu from firefox
[06:04] <vincent> anyhow, im off
[06:04] <MilhousePunkRock> vincent: This is a clean language channel and there is no point discussing it
[06:04] <vincent> ok
[06:04] <johnmc> tried ping localhost mr56k do the simple stuff :)
[06:05] <Mr56k> is it possible any startup process is slowing it down that I can kill ?
[06:05] <stdin> Mr56k: is it wireless or a wired connection ?
[06:05] <Mr56k> that has to do with networking
[06:05] <Mr56k> wireless
[06:06] <stdin> Mr56k: do you connect with knetowrkmanager ?
[06:06] <johnmc> hard to tell if you cant get it going
[06:06] <Mr56k> yes
[06:06] <Mr56k> knetworkmanager
[06:06] <stdin> Mr56k: ahh, I see
[06:06] <johnmc> wouldn't think so unless its an X issue
[06:06] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: The only thing I found in /etc that is obviously related to time settings it "timezone"
[06:07] <genii> alexandros: On my network, that card on the server is <IP_ADDRESS> and the network is <IP_ADDRESS>      Yours may differ, but adjust accordingly. i removed another stanza which gives partular files to boot by MAC address which you don't need here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33579/
[06:07] <TheGateKeeper> ok thanks MilhousePunkRock I think that is a binary file
[06:08] <stdin> Mr56k: edit /etc/network/interfaces (kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces) and remove the line with "auto wlan0" (if wlan0 is your wireless interface), you could also remove the other ones but that would stop you getting an IP automatically for a wired connection
[06:08] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: Nope, plain text... Just contains the zone info here...
[06:08] <Mr56k> also on a laptop when I close the lid if I want it to sleep should I choose Hibernate or suspend ?
[06:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Mr56k: suspend
[06:08] <Mr56k> thx
[06:08] <alexandros> genii: ok man!! Im checking it out right now!
[06:08] <Mr56k> thx stdin
[06:09] <stdin> Mr56k: sleep would be suspend, hibernate is "suspend to disk" (in windows)
[06:09] <genii> AFK, ordering lunch
[06:10] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: It's called suspend to disk in linux too, isn't it? Unlike "suspend to RAM" which is what some refer to as sleep, or even stand-by...
[06:10] <stdin> genii: hmm, coffee and banana nut muffin ? :p
[06:11] <BluesKaj> well, wifey and i are going to Manitoulin Island to sample some smoked whitefish and some scenery
[06:11] <stdin> MilhousePunkRock: suspend and hibernate are the common terms most distros use (and the kernel)
[06:11] <BluesKaj> later gents ..have a good day
[06:12] <stdin> later BluesKaj
[06:12] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: I know. Technically speaking those should be referred to as S3 and S4 sleep states, IIRC... ;)
[06:13] <stdin> MilhousePunkRock: heh, well yes :p
[06:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Assuming I would want KNetworkManager to be like it was when it was freshly set up on Feisty (listing wireless networks, spinning gear and such), what config files would I need to revert or even delete?
[06:15] <stdin> MilhousePunkRock: I would think ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc
[06:16] <alexandros> genii: it doesnt work. now the client doesnt even retrieve its own IP from the dhcp host
[06:16] <johnmc> think I'd lie to it about where it was unless it was stopping it booting but I'm slack
[06:16] <cool_gamer8119> Excuse me... can someone help?
[06:16] <stdin> !ask
[06:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:16] <MilhousePunkRock> cool_gamer8119: Don't ask to ask, just ask
[06:16] <cool_gamer8119> >>;
[06:17] <genii> alexandros: I forgot 1 line ... add in: range <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>;    or appropriate range
[06:17] <alexandros> ok
[06:17] <cool_gamer8119> I have to be able to write to my NTFS filesystem... but i dont know how... every time i try to, it says "Read-only Filesystem"... what do i do?
[06:17] <genii> stdin: No, BLT and V8 today :)
[06:17] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: That wasn't it... I guess it will be something like /etc/network/interfaces
[06:17] <MilhousePunkRock> cool_gamer8119: You will need ntfs-3g
[06:17] <stdin> !ntfs-3g | cool_gamer8119
[06:17] <ubotu> cool_gamer8119: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:18] <stdin> genii: nice :)
[06:18] <cool_gamer8119> ok thanks
[06:18] <genii> alexandros: That line was in the part I took out and i forgot to keep it in when pasting
[06:18] <stdin> MilhousePunkRock: knwtworkmanager ignores /etc/network/interfaces normally
[06:19] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: Probably only until the point where you make a "manual connection" for the first time (which I need to do because I have static IPs), but now I am lacking an easy GUI option to enter the WPA-PSK
[06:19] <cool_gamer8119> How do i enable the "Universe" repo?
[06:20] <MilhousePunkRock> cool_gamer8119: Easiest is in adept, manage repositories
[06:20] <cool_gamer8119> ok thanks
[06:20] <johnmc> can anyone give a nod to any particular ipod software for linux??
[06:21] <stdin> !ipod
[06:21] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:21] <cool_gamer8119> Amarok
[06:21] <cool_gamer8119> i use that
[06:21] <johnmc> oh thanks stdin
[06:21] <MilhousePunkRock> johnmc: I don't have an iPod, but Amarok is pretty good with various portable players
[06:21] <alexandros> ginii: this range thing should be added as an option right?
[06:21] <johnmc> thanks milhouse
[06:22] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: Any ideas on how to make knetworkmanager ignore the /etc/network/interfaces again?
[06:22] <genii> alexandros: In my original entry, it was just below:filename="pxelinux.0";
[06:22] <johnmc> these fandangled things that even girls can work
[06:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Amarok or the iPod, johnmc? ;)
[06:22] <johnmc> does it boot in safe mode?
[06:23] <alexandros> ginii: ok!
[06:23] <johnmc> oh the ipod
[06:23] <johnmc> I set it and Ubuntu at the same time so I was strangling my wireless connections
[06:23] <MilhousePunkRock> johnmc: You shouldn't need a science degree for any mp3 player, I guess...
[06:23] <stdin> MilhousePunkRock: I think it will start normally if the interface hasn't been assigned an IP address, if it has then it will differ to 'interfaces'
[06:24] <johnmc> true
[06:24] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: I shall check that out in a moment
[06:25] <stdin> hmm, maybe you should add a bug/wish on knetworkmanager about being able to assign a static IP
[06:25] <johnmc> I just made it hard for myself over excited about actually spending pokie money instead of putting it back was a shock to the system
[06:25] <khandi> hello i wanted to ask if someone could help me with my soundcard. it is only able to use one application at a time. i already installed alsa-oss. But it seems to me i need to do something else with it than just typinh aoss in front of the file i'd like it to run with
[06:26] <brozz87> hello boys! for server pc it's better pentium III 800 MHz or Intel Celeron 900 Mhz?
[06:26] <alexandros> genii: ok now client retrieve its IP address from DHCP. but then I still get TFTP open timeout     :D
[06:26] <genii> alexandros: Do you have in /var/lib/tftpboot the file: pxelinux.0   and the directory pxelinux.cfg which has at least one file called default in it?
[06:26] <stdin> khandi: some (old) applications use the old "OSS" sound system, they will "lock" the sound card, sometimes aoss helps, sometimes not...
[06:27] <stdin> khandi: it's up to those applications to be made to work with ALSA
[06:27] <khandi> stdin, ok and what do you suppose i do about it?
[06:27] <alexandros> genii: yeap!  do u think it has something to do with NAT ?
[06:27] <stdin> khandi: what applications are locking the sound card?
[06:27] <khandi> stdin or is there no sollution? :D
[06:27] <jhutchins> khandi: Demand that the developers stop using oss.
[06:28] <johnmc> I used a little USB sound card plugin that solved probs they're cheap on ebay
[06:28] <khandi> stdin well... all of them... surely... it works like this: if i strat Amarok or Teamspeak or whatever, then my games cease to use my soundcard. all my games
[06:28] <jhutchins> khandi: Try to get the collosal ego of a developer to accept that you might want to do other things while his program is running.
[06:28] <khandi> stdin, well 3d games that is... i don't know about chess
[06:28] <genii> alexandros: No, i doubt it. Likely some path or initrd issues with pxelinux.o or in the /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default    entries
[06:29] <stdin> khandi: have a look in system settings > sound system
[06:29] <jhutchins> khandi: Generally 3D games make no effort to share the system.
[06:29] <stdin> khandi: make sure that's set to use the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
[06:29] <khandi> jhutchins,so how do people use  teamspeak while playing? haha
[06:29] <khandi> stdin, i'll check
[06:29] <genii> alexandros: When in /var/lib/tftpboot   did you wget the netboot files and initrd for the dist you are trying to install?
[06:30] <khandi> stdin ok im there
[06:30] <alexandros> genii: when I do tcpdump I get the following packet:
[06:30] <alexandros> genii: 19:29:41.180876 IP <IP_ADDRESS>.2078 > <IP_ADDRESS>.tftp:  32 RRQ "pxelinux.0" octet blksize 1456
[06:30] <stdin> khandi: the setting is in the hardware tab
[06:30] <khandi> stdin.. ok
[06:30] <cool_gamer8119> can someone tell me how to unmount the ntfs filesystem?
[06:30] <alexandros> genii: yeap I got the feisty ones
[06:30] <stdin> khandi: Select the audio device... set that to ALSA
[06:31] <khandi> stdin how?
[06:31] <johnmc> umound (drivename)
[06:31] <stdin> khandi: see the drop down list?
[06:31] <khandi> yes
[06:31] <cool_gamer8119> ok
[06:31] <johnmc> oops use a t
[06:31] <khandi> ah ok got it
[06:31] <stdin> khandi: click it, select "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture "
[06:31] <sayers> how long should this take to partiton?
[06:31] <khandi> stdin got it
[06:31] <sayers> it's sat on 0% on my laptop forever
[06:32] <stdin> khandi: then click apply
[06:32] <khandi> stdin, did it... did not work
[06:32] <johnmc> bout an hour by the time its formatted depending on size and file system
[06:32] <jhutchins> sayers: If you're changing size of a partition with data it can take a really long time.
[06:33] <stdin> khandi: if the applications don't work they are using OSS, nothing you can do about that except maybe use aoss
[06:33] <sayers> jhutchins: thats what I'm doing
[06:33] <sayers> this isnt on my computer so Im really scared :)
[06:33] <stdin> khandi: if that doesn't work, you're stuck
[06:33] <genii> alexandros: My layout is for dapper but should be similar. i did the wget which put underneath the tftpboot dir the dir dapper-installer/i386   then I made a symlink to dapper-installer/i386/pxelinux.0   and initrd.gz in the tftpboot directory
[06:33] <jhutchins> sayers: Did you clean and defrag the partition before you started/
[06:33] <jhutchins> ?
[06:33] <khandi> stdin, ok mate thanks for your help!
[06:33] <genii> alexandros: Do you have also an initrd.gz or symlink to one there ?
[06:34] <khandi> stdin, do you play World of Padman or enemy territory? those are the games i experienced these problems with.. perhaps it can give you a clue on how to fix it :D
[06:34] <cool_gamer8119> I cant unmount my ntfs filesystem?!?!
[06:34] <alexandros> genii: I'll try to do that
[06:34] <stdin> khandi: if it's games and stuff, try asking on the game support forums why they don't use alsa
[06:34] <khandi> stdin, lol ok, don't think it will help much tho
[06:34] <stdin> khandi: are these games from adept or somewhere else?
[06:34] <khandi> stdin, somewhere else..
[06:35] <genii> alexandros: Also make sure to restart tftp daemon to make changes stick
[06:35] <stdin> khandi: running natively or in wine?
[06:35] <khandi> stdin for all i know adept seems to work... but i do not know for sure
[06:35] <cool_gamer8119> D: my computer wont let me unmount my NTFS filesystem...
[06:35] <khandi> stdin natively
[06:35] <stdin> khandi: then you should complain
[06:35] <alexandros> genii: yes I have initrd.gz
[06:35] <alexandros> genii: aaargghhh..  I have to go:(   I really appreciate your help man! I'll try to fix it afterwards and if I get you online I'll tell you how I did it
[06:35] <stdin> khandi: OSS support is supposed to be dropped, it's horribly out dated
[06:36] <genii> alexandros: OK. i'm here a lot :) Good luck
[06:36] <alexandros> genii: thanks man, u're great! cya!
[06:36] <khandi> stdin, i will put a complain if i can't get it to work properly. thanks for all your advice :)
[06:36] <stdin> khandi: the only way to get the company's to listen is to talk to them :p
[06:37] <johnmc> all that OSS junk mail for nought, snigger
[06:37] <DrHalan> is file transfer posisible with kopete? :S
[06:37] <cool_gamer8119> :( i cant unmount my ntfs partition
[06:37] <johnmc> what command are you using cool gamer
[06:38] <stdin> DrHalan: depends on the network but, generally, yes
[06:38] <khandi> stdin well that seems reasonable enough :)
[06:38] <cool_gamer8119> umount (partitionname)
[06:38] <DrHalan> stdin, how?
[06:38] <stdin> DrHalan: right click the contact and choose send file
[06:38] <nojoints> Hello I got a problem with Kopete; When I log into an MSN I get logged on but everyone is offline and I know that atleast 1 is always online on msn and the litter butterfly in the corner is flapping it wings but nothing more happens after that
[06:39] <genii> DrHalan: ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-175260.html
[06:39] <DrHalan> stdin, doenst work for icq :(
[06:39] <genii> bah
[06:39] <cool_gamer8119> whenever i try to unmount my ntfs partition it says "
[06:39] <cool_gamer8119> oops
[06:39] <johnmc> the command is umount (drivename) if you're getting at it in linux, windows thinks unmounting itself is a bad idea
[06:39] <genii> DrHalan: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-175260.html
[06:39] <cool_gamer8119> whenever i try to unmount my ntfs partition it says "umount: hda3 is not mounted (according to mtab)"
[06:40] <cool_gamer8119> i am in linux....
[06:40] <stdin> DrHalan: I never use ICQ, so I can't say if it's possible
[06:40] <khandi> stdin, but it is unlikely that my system "claims" my entire sound drive? i heard somewhere that in certain cases kubuntu can claim your drive instead of sharing it with other applications
[06:40] <khandi> stdin, know anything about that?
[06:40] <genii> stdin: I use ICQ and it doesn't work
[06:40] <cool_gamer8119> i am just used to saying partition instead of drive....
[06:41] <vince_> Hi all, can anyone help me please. I am trying to install an FTP client yet if I use sud apt-get *Blah*Blah*Blah* it comes back with an error and if I try to use the K --> add/remover programs it states "another program is probably using adept(-get) or apptitude. I have looked at the processes and cant seem to see much, any ideas? would be highly appreciated.
[06:41] <khandi> cool_gamer8119, do you have it properly configured in your fstab file?
[06:41] <genii> vince onto the sud put o like sudo
[06:41] <stdin> khandi: you can't have both systems in use at the same time, so if something is using ALSA, then OSS is blocked. if that's what you mean
[06:41] <cool_gamer8119> ?!?!
[06:41] <cool_gamer8119> khandi: i dont know....
[06:42] <vince_> geni lol sorry typo I am putting sudo
[06:42] <stdin> khandi: arts will block OSS for a while too, there's a kicker applet to suspend arts
[06:42] <MilhousePunkRock> khandi: Have you considered that your soundcard might not be capable of hardware mixing?
[06:43] <khandi> cool_gamer8119, you should check online how to configure NTFS drives in your fstab.. google on ubuntu ntfs fstab. it will get you somewhere :D
[06:43] <genii> vince_: If adept-updater or update notifier is running it will prevent other programs which want to use package system from running. You may see it's icon in bottom right corner if it is going
[06:43] <khandi> milhousepunkrock, yes i considered it possible yes, but i don't know where to check that.. it seems weird it is just a soundblaster card
[06:44] <MilhousePunkRock> khandi: ALSA is capable of software mixing though, I have had a similar issue (on another distribution though) which vanished after the right setting was applied.
[06:45] <MilhousePunkRock> khandi: Of course I do not remember what setting that was, and I still did not start taking notes after more than a year on Linux...
[06:45] <khandi> milhousepunkrock. any idea how i can acces those settings using feisty?
[06:45] <khandi> milhousepunkrock haha ok made your point :D
[06:45] <genii> vince_: If nothing like that is running you may need to do the aptfix to forcibly free up the packaging system ,
[06:45] <MilhousePunkRock> khandi: must be something like alsa-config or so...
[06:45] <vince_> geni: there is only sound, kompete, amarok, wifi, klipper, Korganizer, battery, firewall and konversation
[06:45] <genii> !aptfix > vince_
[06:46] <khandi> milhousepunkrock, will check that thanks
[06:46] <MilhousePunkRock> khandi: You should not be scared of the CLI for it though...
[06:46] <cool_gamer8119> what is confusing me is that my ntfs filesystem is mounted but it wont let me unmount it...
[06:46] <MilhousePunkRock> cool_gamer8119: Did you try pumount?
[06:46] <khandi> MilhousePunkRock what do you mean? :D
[06:47] <cool_gamer8119> pumount???
[06:47] <vince_> geni: thanx will try that now, thanks again much appreciated.
[06:47] <MilhousePunkRock> khandi: That you might have to use something on a terminal, or even modify the config files yourself
[06:47] <cool_gamer8119> omg it worked!
[06:47] <khandi> MilhousePunkRock ah ok, well im not too worried about that :D
[06:47] <cool_gamer8119> Thanks MilhousePunkRock!
[06:48] <khandi> MilhousePunkRock will make a backup if something goes wrong i'll just replace it
[06:48] <MilhousePunkRock> cool_gamer8119: That's for mounting and unmounting stuff without su privileges
[06:48] <cool_gamer8119> ok
[06:48] <MilhousePunkRock> khandi: That's indeed a smart move...
[06:49] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: mv'ing the /etc/network/interfaces brought up the wireless network list...
[06:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Now the big question: Will it let me enter the WPA-PSK there and let me configure the static IP afterwards?
[06:51] <khandi> MilhousePunkRock do you think it will help if i run my natively program using adsp. and see if it might work? instead of dsp. or should that not matter?
[06:51] <MilhousePunkRock> khandi: dsp as in digital signal processor? I know nothing about that...
[06:52] <khandi> well my teamspeak settings state that it uses my dps system as a sound driver...
[06:52] <khandi> milhousepunkrock, well my teamspeak settings state that it uses my dps system as a sound driver...
[06:52] <MilhousePunkRock> khandi: I have never dealt with TS in Linux, sorry...
[06:57] <saki_knin> "ubuntu-yu
[06:57] <saki_knin> #ubuntu-yu
[06:58] <khandi> anyone here dealt with Teamspeak? im having problems to get it to work. it seems i can only use one application for my sound... anyone else have experience with this?
[06:59] <facugaich> I'd like to change the way kubuntu looks, where can I start?
[07:00] <ones> .
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> facugaich: System Settings --> Appearance
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> facugaich: Browse around on http://www.kde-look.org too
[07:00] <cool_gamer8119> I still cant write to ntfs....
[07:00] <cool_gamer8119> :(
[07:00] <vince_> geni: I have tried the bots console command plus tried all variations plus went into the folder where sudo lock is and it says it 0kb 'empty document' and console command keeps saying cant find it.
[07:02] <jhutchins> What does gnome use for a password manager?
[07:02] <vince_> genii: sorry got ur nick wrong.
[07:03] <stdin> jhutchins: better to ask that in #ubuntu or #gnome
[07:03] <cool_gamer8119> I still cant write to ntfs....
[07:03] <jhutchins> stdin: Sure, I'm just bein' lazy.
[07:03] <jhutchins> cool_gamer8119: What have you done so far?
[07:03] <stdin> jhutchins: I'm not a gnome user, so I have no clue :p
[07:04] <jhutchins> We do see an occasional graduate from gnome here.
[07:04] <cool_gamer8119> It is mounted... just i cant write to it
[07:04] <jhutchins> cool_gamer8119: What have you done so far?
[07:04] <khandi> stdin, i got it to work with at least one game now! but the other wont work :(
[07:04] <khandi> stdin, i just ran my teamspeak with aoss :D
[07:05] <khandi> stdin, that seemed to do the trick for World of Padman :D
[07:05] <stdin> khandi: the only game I need is frozen bubble, as long as I have that I'm happy :)
[07:06] <khandi> stdin, lol :D
[07:06] <vince_> bbl
[07:07] <cool_gamer8119> jhutchins, it is mounted... i cant write to it
[07:07] <stdin> cool_gamer8119: how did you mount it?
[07:07] <jhutchins> cool_gamer8119: Have you installed ntfs-3g and ntfs-config/
[07:07] <jhutchins> ?
[07:07] <cool_gamer8119> yes
[07:08] <jhutchins> Did you un-mount and re-mount the drive?
[07:08] <cool_gamer8119> no...
[07:08] <cool_gamer8119> i restarted Kubuntu
[07:08] <jhutchins> Gotta do at least that.  Possibly reboot, we've been debating that here.
[07:08] <jhutchins> cool_gamer8119: Did you reboot or just restart X?
[07:08] <cool_gamer8119> reboot
[07:09] <jhutchins> run ntfs-config?
[07:09] <cool_gamer8119> how?
[07:09] <jhutchins> alt-F2
[07:10] <cool_gamer8119> if i do that..... wont i go into TTYL2?
[07:10] <cool_gamer8119> or whatever it is called
[07:11] <DrHalan> i cant install libpango or libpangocommon because both request each other to be installed
[07:12] <jhutchins> cool_gamer8119: You can also run it from a console.
[07:12] <cool_gamer8119> i am going to do that
[07:12] <cool_gamer8119> or not
[07:13] <stdin> cool_gamer8119: Alt-F2 opens the run command dialog, it doesn't send you to tty2
[07:14] <cool_gamer8119> oh....
[07:14] <cool_gamer8119> when i do that i get...
[07:14] <cool_gamer8119> KDEInit could not launch 'gksu'.:
[07:14] <cool_gamer8119> Could not find 'gksu' executable.
[07:15] <jhutchins> cool_gamer8119: kdesu
[07:15] <cool_gamer8119> ???
[07:15] <jhutchins> cool_gamer8119: What did you do?
[07:15] <jhutchins> cool_gamer8119: ntfs-config in the run dialog (alt-F20?
[07:15] <cool_gamer8119> i hit alt+F2 and ntfs-config
[07:16] <jhutchins> cool_gamer8119: Ok this time alt-f2 kdesu ntfs-config
[07:16] <jhutchins> cool_gamer8119: Sorry, we're so used to that that we forget and leave it off.
[07:16] <cool_gamer8119> its ok
[07:16] <jhutchins> stdin: Someone needs to bugreport that if ntfs-config calls gksu instead of kdesu.
[07:16] <cool_gamer8119> lol
[07:17] <stdin> jhutchins: I'm looking in to it as we speak :p
[07:17] <jhutchins> tnx
[07:20] <stdin> jhutchins: already reported it seems :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-config/+bug/109653
[07:21] <cimma> how i get the search-function from suse to ubuntu
[07:22] <cimma> its in the kmenu and you can search for the programmnames
[07:22] <jhutchins> stdin: Reported and fixed upstream.
[07:23] <stdin> jhutchins: yeah, but upsteam fails to build :/
[07:23] <StoneNewt> hum any idea my laptop never reboots or shutsdown from kdm/kde shutdown menu but if I type the 'sudo command shutdown -h now' or 'sudo restart' into a console it will shutdown/restart every time
[07:24] <StoneNewt> it's almost like the shutdown order is diffrent!
[07:24] <genii> StoneNewt: Perhaps put in kernel load line acpi=force
[07:25] <StoneNewt> genii: but why the diff between the kde/kdm dialog and typing it into a console?
[07:26] <genii> StoneNewt: Not sure but i had some old IBM bios pre 2000 that were like this. had to use kernel option acpi=force to make it shut off from wm
[07:26] <StoneNewt> intresting this is a new ibm
[07:29] <karen> Hey, I just installed Kubuntu on my laptop and I can't get wireless internet to work...
[07:29] <karen> (I'm on wired...)
[07:29] <genii> StoneNewt: If hardware APIC / ACPI related scouring dmesg may have something in there about it
[07:30] <stdin> karen: wireless card/chipset?
[07:30] <karen> It's an Acer..
[07:30] <lovaspillando> hi
[07:31] <lovaspillando> can I ask you for some help? (any manual helps me since two days :-/)
[07:31] <stdin> karen: post what "lspci | grep Acer"  shows
[07:31] <stdin> !ask | lovaspillando
[07:31] <ubotu> lovaspillando: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:32] <lovaspillando> thanks
[07:32] <lovaspillando> well, I have Ubunto 7.04, wanted to install apache2 and tomcat5.5
[07:33] <lovaspillando> after isntalling tomcat 5.5 and running (ps -def | grep tomcat shows me is running), I cant access localhost:8080
[07:33] <lovaspillando> port seem closed
[07:33] <karen> It shows nothing..
[07:33] <lovaspillando> (may be you  already noticed, I am so newbie even if I were programing for linux lot of years ago)
[07:33] <SeicherlBoB> hi there! is there a tool for checking the powerusage of a laptop running kubuntu?
[07:33] <lovaspillando> karen: right, shows me nothing
[07:34] <stdin> lovaspillando: take a look in "sudo netstat -lp | grep tomcat" to see what address/port it's listening to
[07:34] <jhutchins> karen: In a console, does sudo lspci show something that looks like it might be a wireless card/
[07:34] <lovaspillando> mmm I will see now, thanks
[07:34] <StoneNewt> genii: ohh intresting!
[07:35] <lovaspillando> lp: error: no default destination avaliable
[07:35] <redshadowhero> karen: if you need to cut/paste things from the console, use pastebin
[07:35] <StoneNewt> if I use the gui the first thing kde does is kill the network connection... however with shutdown/restart it is shutdown by the init scripts!
[07:35] <redshadowhero> !pastebin | karen
[07:35] <ubotu> karen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:36] <StoneNewt> thus with kde the shares just hang and never get unmounted! well they probablly would if I waited long eough
[07:36] <lovaspillando> mmmm
[07:36] <lovaspillando> dont shows me nothing
[07:36] <lovaspillando> seems tomcat is no listening them?
[07:37] <stdin> lovaspillando: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheTomcat5
[07:38] <lovaspillando> thanks stdin, I will see now
[07:38] <stdin> lovaspillando: tomcat apparently uses port 8180 not 8080 too
[07:38] <lovaspillando> btw: thanks from Spain ;-)
[07:38] <stdin> (I get that from that page, not from experience)
[07:39] <jhutchins> What's the point of tomcat as opposed to apache?
[07:39] <genii> StoneNewt:
[07:39] <lovaspillando> neither 8180
[07:39] <karen> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33584/
[07:40] <stdin> karen: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device < seem to be your wireless
[07:40] <lovaspillando> jhutchins: I connected apache with tomcat using mod_jk, but first I must ensure is workingg by him own
[07:40] <stdin> karen: what version of kubuntu do you have ?
[07:40] <karen> 7.04
[07:41] <stdin> should work then..
[07:41] <jhutchins> karen:
[07:41] <jhutchins> karen: ehernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c (r
[07:41] <stdin> karen: dose the command "lsmod | grep ath" show anything ?
[07:41] <stdin> jhutchins: beat you to it :p
[07:43] <nosrednaekim> just because its atheros doesn't mean it should work at all.... I've tried fiesty on 3 atheros cards, none of which work.
[07:43] <stdin> nosrednaekim: atheros is supported by the "madwifi" driver, included in feisty
[07:43] <redshadowhero> and how would one enable that to work, stdin
[07:43] <redshadowhero> ??
[07:44] <karen> stdin:
[07:44] <karen> karen@Alexander:~$ lsmod | grep ath
[07:44] <karen> ath_pci                97312  0
[07:44] <karen> wlan                  204484  1 ath_pci
[07:44] <karen> ath_hal               192592  1 ath_pci
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> stdin: not all hardware works with it, and your specific laptop model can even affect it, regarding software switches, and HAL problems.
[07:44] <Assid> yello!
[07:45] <stdin> karen: what does "iwconfig" show? post it to pastebin
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> karen: does iwconfig show a "ath0"?
[07:45] <lovaspillando> well, I will uninstall and reinstall it again, so see you in some minutes
[07:45] <lovaspillando> thanks for all
[07:45] <stdin> redshadowhero: what? the atheros card?
[07:45] <redshadowhero> stdin: yes... I'm a friend of hers, and I'm just trying to help
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> thats the idea stdin... :)
[07:46] <grendal_prime> ok where do we get repos for flash and "unofficial repos" media and whatnot
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> !mediaubuntu
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediaubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <stdin> !repos | grendal_prime
[07:46] <ubotu> grendal_prime: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:46] <Assid> wassup stdin
[07:46] <karen> It says "no wireless extensions"...
[07:46] <stdin> Assid: the sky? ;)
[07:47] <Assid> hehe
[07:47] <Assid> bah.. this is irritating
[07:47] <stdin> karen: what about just "iwconfig"
[07:47] <Assid> i just booted to this kernel
[07:47] <Assid> and now.. it doesnt wanna come up
[07:47] <Assid> makes sense to you?
[07:47] <redshadowhero> stdin: she just did that
[07:47] <Assid> oh wait it did
[07:47] <redshadowhero> stdin: I'm sitting right next to her... and she wanted to do this herself
[07:47] <yamal> according to madwifi website: device 001C is "not supported by HAL as of 2007.04.28", but should work with ndiswrapper
[07:47] <Assid> something wrong with kwallet
[07:48] <Assid> its opening 2 i think
[07:48] <stdin> redshadowhero, karen: is there a "wifi0" ?
[07:48] <nosrednaekim> redshadowhero: karen: please pastebin the results of the command "iwconfig"
[07:48] <jhutchins> stdin: I think it should be ath0
[07:49] <stdin> jhutchins: the "wifi0" device is the controller, "ath0" is virtual
[07:49] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: stdin: where there is a ath0 there is a wifi0...
[07:49] <jhutchins> ah, of course.
[07:49] <stdin> jhutchins: sometimes the driver doesn't autocreate the ath0 device
[07:49] <jhutchins> Yeah, mine hangs on the firmware loader.
[07:50] <sayers> hello I have my wifi detected but when it trys to activate it doesnt.
[07:50] <redshadowhero> stdin: it say "no wireless extensions" on lo and eth0, and those are the only ones listed
[07:50] <nosrednaekim> redshadowhero: ok, looks like you are going to have to use ndiswrapper
[07:51] <redshadowhero> nosrednaekim: yeah, I figured that, too. How would one do that?
[07:51] <karen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33587/
[07:53] <Assid> jhutchins: hey!! i got kvpnc to do the job
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> redshadowhero: you have to get the windows drivers. and the package ndiswrapper
[07:53] <stdin> redshadowhero, karen: you want to try the latest driver first? (requires compiling it, but it's quite simple)
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> stdin: the docs say that its not supported
[07:54] <stdin> nosrednaekim: what docs?
[07:54] <redshadowhero> stdin: I have to go back to work, but can you please walk her through it?
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> the madwifi compatibility list.
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> according to madwifi website: device 001C is "not supported by HAL as of 2007.04.28", but should work with ndiswrapper
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> yamal: just posted that^^
[07:55] <stdin> nosrednaekim: that's funny, because "lspci | grep Ath" on my system shows "05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c (rev 01)"
[07:55] <stdin> and it works here
[07:55] <yamal> maybe they are late updating their compatibility stuff
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> oh :P now I feel dumb
[07:56] <redshadowhero> stdin: this is her first time on ubuntu, and she isn't very familiar with command line and the k menu and such
[07:57] <jhutchins> Assid: what were the required steps?
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> stdin: think we should put her through compiliing?
[07:57] <yamal> and on feisty 168c:001c is listed in modinfo for madwifi modules :? weirdness
[07:58] <Assid> jhutchins: stupid thing needed mppe and also i had to put the pptp gateway in the route
[07:58] <stdin> nosrednaekim: yeah, it's just a "make ; sudo make install"
[07:58] <redshadowhero> stdin: or, if I get off work later, you can walk me through the installation via ndswrapper, if you prefer?
[07:59] <harmental_> hey guys...i know gustsy is alpha...but i cannot wait to upgrade my system and enjoy all those exciting new features....
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> stdin: ok, go ahead :)
[07:59] <stdin> redshadowhero: I'd have to lookup how to do it with ndiswrapper..
[07:59] <jhutchins> Assid: You mean that route command I had, you needed to update for your config?
[07:59] <harmental_> is there any flagarant bugs that should keep away from upgrading?
[07:59] <harmental_> im using feisty
[07:59] <jhutchins> harmental_: Yes.
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> harmental_: thats the purpose of testing gutsy... finding bugs ;) but not any real showstopper ones for em.
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> *me
[08:00] <stdin> nosrednaekim: er, madwifi.org seem to be down
[08:00] <japaya> Hi, I've got a problem with my external USB hard disk. I've mounted it as root but don't have permission to access it :s
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> stdin: I can guide her through ndiswrapper...
[08:00] <karen> stdin:  What is ndiswrapper?
[08:00] <Assid> jhutchins: kvpnc yes.. and i needed mppe.. i didnt try pptp cli
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> karen: it uses windows drivers and makes them work for linux.
[08:01] <stdin> nosrednaekim: may as well see if ndiswrapper works
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> stdin: k
[08:01] <stdin> karen: it lets you use a windows driver for the card
[08:01] <brian__> does crontab have a default log?
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> karen: do you have windows XP on this computer?
[08:02] <ozza> yoo,hey :D
[08:02] <karen> nosrednaekim:  No, it came with Vista, which I think went away when I installed Kubuntu.
[08:02] <japaya> does anyone know what's wrong when I'm not able to access a mounted external HDD as root?
[08:02] <harmental_> nosrednaekim: i will be more than happy to report NON-CRITICAL bugs...but my system must remain STABLE cause i use it intensible for work....(ending my PhD actually)
[08:03] <stdin> japaya: you mounted it as root, so only root can access it...
[08:03] <japaya> stdin: but I'm also logged on as root...
[08:03] <stdin> harmental_: then don't upgrade
[08:03] <nosrednaekim> karen: oh, ok. well you need to find some windows XP drivers for that wireless card. could you go to the manufactures page or something?
[08:03] <brian__> Does crontab keep a log?
[08:04] <stdin> brian__: it should send logs to syslog and send you mail too
[08:04] <karen> nosrednaekim: The manufacturer for the computer?
[08:04] <stdin> japaya: how did you mount it? how are you trying to access it?
[08:04] <brian__> well, it isn't setup for mail, but where is syslog located?
[08:04] <nosrednaekim> karen: yes, please, they should have a drivers page somewhere.
[08:04] <jhutchins> karen: That's a good place to start.
[08:05] <yamal> brian__: in /var/log
[08:05] <stdin> brian__: it should be, is by default, open konsole and type "mail". syslog is in /var/log/syslog
[08:05] <japaya> stdin: I mounted it using "Disk & Filesystems" in my System Settings and I'm just double clicking the usb stick icon on my desktop to access it
[08:05] <stdin> japaya: how are you logged in as root then?
[08:06] <japaya> Just by using my name and password as the Kubuntu starts up?
[08:06] <japaya> (this is my first day on Kubuntu so I might be missing something here :)
[08:06] <stdin> japaya: then that's not root
[08:06] <grendal_prime> anything on the werid font situation..everything in this guys browse dialog boxes looks like boxes and ?'s like there is asystem font that did not get installed
[08:06] <japaya> stdin: Hehe okay, thought so when you asked the question :)
[08:06] <stdin> japaya: where is it mounted to ?
[08:07] <japaya> stdin: /media/exthdd1/
[08:07] <stdin> japaya: can you show me what this command shows "ls -ld /media/exthdd1/"
[08:08] <lesik>
[08:08] <japaya> stdin: dr-x------ 1 root root 28672 2007-08-11 13:22 /media/exthdd1/
[08:08] <stdin> !ru | lesik
[08:08] <ubotu> lesik:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:08] <stdin> japaya: well that's why you don't have access :p
[08:09] <japaya> stdin: haha thought so, but how do I change those perms so I get access to it?
[08:09] <stdin> japaya: is the device always going to be connected to the system?
[08:09] <japaya> stdin: no, it's just to transport some files
[08:09] <japaya> stdin: between school, friends etc...
[08:10] <japaya> stdin: It's actually an IDE drive
[08:10] <nosrednaekim> karen: if you cannot find them, don;t worry about it.
[08:10] <dreamore> Hello! I'm a new Kubuntu user.
[08:10] <stdin> japaya: then you'll want to remove it from disk & filesystems, as that will make a permanent entry for it
[08:10] <dreamore> I need help about changing screen resolution!
[08:10] <stdin> !resolution
[08:10] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:10] <karen> nosrednaekim: I think I'll find it..
[08:10] <nosrednaekim> dreamore: hello!
[08:11] <japaya> stdin: well actually disk & filesettings allows you to chose for mount on startup or not
[08:11] <dreamore> nosrednaekim: hello. Can you help me?
[08:11] <jlinares> hola como estan?
[08:11] <japaya> stdin: so I don't know if it will be mounted permanently
[08:11] <stdin> japaya: yes, but it will make a permanent entry in /etc/fstab
[08:11] <stdin> !es | jlinares
[08:11] <ubotu> jlinares: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:11] <nosrednaekim> karen: ok. But some manufacturers no longer provide XP drivers.
[08:11] <japaya> stdin: ah okay thanks, and how do I have to mount it then?
[08:11] <brian__> Ok the syslog for crontab shows that it runs my script, and states an email was attempted, but it does not finish the script and there are no error messages in the syslog
[08:11] <jlinares> bien gracias amigos..
[08:12] <stdin> japaya: you should try using the command "pmount" to mount it after that, something like "pmount /dev/sdb1" (no sudo)
[08:12] <japaya> stdin: I have removed the mount
[08:12] <nosrednaekim> dreamore: did you look at the link that ubotu gave you?
[08:12] <stdin> japaya: also, is it ntfs?
[08:12] <dreamore> I'm at there now.
[08:12] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:12] <japaya> stdin: yes
[08:12] <brian__> how do I setup email for crontab?
[08:13] <stdin> japaya: you'll have to install the "ntfs-3g" package to be able to write to it
[08:13] <nosrednaekim> dreamore: okee... follow the directions. :)
[08:13] <karen> nosrednaekim: Konqueror won't display the page, so I'm getting Firefox.
[08:13] <japaya> stdin: ah nice, I've been searching for the name but couldn't find it :p
[08:13] <stdin> japaya: you can't use pmount with that though, but I'll give you the full command after you install that
[08:13] <nosrednaekim> karen: ok.
[08:13] <nosrednaekim> karen: you know how?
[08:13] <japaya> stdin: ok thx, I'll try to install that package now
[08:14] <danne_> brian__: fetchmail ?
[08:14] <karen> nosrednaekim: I got it through add/remove programs.
[08:14] <nosrednaekim> ah ok :)
[08:14] <nosrednaekim> I prefer firefox
[08:15] <dreamore> nosrednaekim: http://rafb.net/p/FshcX613.html Can you check this?
[08:15] <harmental_> jhutchins and stdin ok...ill follow the gurus lead.....
[08:15] <brian__> but where is it sending the email?
[08:15] <harmental_> see ya in october then ;o)
[08:16] <stdin> dreamore: "xserver-xorg" not "xerver-xorg"
[08:16] <japaya> stdin: done installing ntfs-3g
[08:16] <nosrednaekim> dreamore: yep
[08:16] <dreamore> stdin: What a silly error! I fixed.
[08:16] <stdin> japaya: ok, what is the device name? (something like /dev/sdb1)
[08:17] <japaya> stdin: yes I think it's /dev/sdb1 but I'd like to know how I can get a list of all devices... if that's possible?
[08:17] <japaya> stdin: so I can remember this for later :)
[08:17] <stdin> japaya: sure :) "sudo fdisk -l"
[08:18] <stdin> japaya: look for the NTFS one
[08:18] <japaya> stdin: yes, the name is /dev/sda5 and not sda1
[08:18] <japaya> *sdb1
[08:18] <brian__> well, I am out to lunch...if someone can answer, I'll bb in about an hour
[08:19] <dreamore> stdin: There is a blue screen to configure :) But can you explain about this blue screen?
[08:19] <stdin> japaya: so it's /dev/sdb1 ? just to make sure :p
[08:19] <stdin> dreamore: just keep pressing enter until you come to the resolution section, enter will just keep the settings you have already
[08:20] <karen> nosrednaekim:  Okay, I found a page with drivers.  I see some for Vista, but none for XP.
[08:20] <japaya> stdin: Well, there's a /dev/sda1 and a /dev/sda5 and the systems are "W95 ext'd (LBA)" and "HPFS/NTFS"
[08:20] <japaya> stdin: so I suppose we'll use the /dev/sda5 ?
[08:21] <zorglu_> !virtualbox
[08:21] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[08:21] <karen> nosrednaekim: http://www.acerpanam.com/flex/acerdrivers/bin/drivers.html?CFID=3221373&CFTOKEN=57623150
[08:21] <stdin> japaya: try this command out "sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /media/exthdd1 -t ntfs-3g -o fmask=111,dmask=000"
[08:22] <japaya> stdin: wow, okay :P
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> karen: looking.
[08:22] <japaya> stdin: it's sdA5 instead of stdb5, does that matter or did you just type it wrong?
[08:23] <stdin> japaya: oh, just replace sdb5 with sda5 then
[08:23] <japaya> stdin: ok, was just to make sure :)
[08:24] <sayers> why did wireless work last time but not this time
[08:25] <elite101> hey i was practicing As i Lay dying (a band) one of there songs rite and was wanting to know does Kopete support Audio Chat?!? this way i can play and my friend can hear me ?
[08:26] <elite101> i looked for if it said Audio Convo or Voice Chat but it only has: send files,webcam?
[08:26] <japaya> stdin: hmm, looks like something is wrong with the drive :s I'm going to attach it to my windows laptop... hopefully no data is lost
[08:26] <stdin> elite101: I don't think kopete does
[08:26] <elite101> shoot
[08:26] <elite101> is there an msn 7.0?
[08:26] <nosrednaekim> karen: my firfox doesn't like that page... what is it?
[08:26] <stdin> japaya: post the error you got
[08:26] <elite101> i cant use 7.5 it wont let me unless i run windowsxp
[08:26] <nosrednaekim> elite101: haha.... msn is made by microsoft.. what do YOU think?
[08:27] <elite101> lol i know
[08:27] <stdin> elite101: can't you just use a VoIP client?
[08:27] <elite101> no
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> karen: so what was on that page?drivers?
[08:27] <stdin> elite101: why?
[08:27] <dreamore> stdin: Thank you!  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:28] <elite101> ;)
[08:28] <willem_> Hi, im getting "An error occurred while loading http://" when i try to browse, has anyone experienced this before?
[08:28] <japaya> thought it would just put everything on one line :s
[08:28] <karen> nosrednaekim: Yeah.  I don't see any for XP, just VIsta.
[08:28] <stdin> japaya: ahh, yeah you need to run the windows check disk tool on it
[08:29] <lovaspillando> sorry for changing again,
[08:29] <lovaspillando> well, thanks tahnks thanks thanks for the link to the page stdin
[08:29] <elite101> well im downloading 7.0 so it should work hopefully :) since it runs on win95-vista
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> karen: hmm ok. go to the drivers page for the acer 5050 computer ok? that uses the same chipset. and there are XP drivers
[08:29] <japaya> stdin: yes I've downloaded the ntfs utlity set but couldn't find how to checkdisk so I've attached the hdd to my laptop
[08:29] <lovaspillando> I finally have tomcat running
[08:29] <japaya> I'll do a checkdisk now
[08:29] <stdin> lovaspillando: heh, it's ubuntu policy so...
[08:30] <stdin> japaya: the linux tools can't really fix ntfs, basically because no one knows how the windows tools do it
[08:30] <lovaspillando> just sorry for changing nicknames, dindt heard about the command slash away
[08:30] <karen> nosrednaekim: Okay, thanks.
[08:31] <stdin> lovaspillando: it's ok, now you do :)
[08:31] <willem_> Hi, im getting "An error occurred while loading http://" when i try to browse, has anyone experienced this before?
[08:31] <nosrednaekim> karen: I have a 5050 so thats how I know ;)
[08:31] <japaya> stdin: I see, well it's not like checkdisk has helped me in the past... I once had "flying files" long story short... everything was really totally messed up and 70% of my files were corrupt
[08:31] <nosrednaekim> willem_: but you can talk on konversation?
, yip, I can telnet, and ping, ect ect, but not browse
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> willem_: is this konqueror?
[08:32] <karen> nosrednaekim: Ah, that's fortunate.  So, do you know which one(s) I should download?
[08:32] <willem_> browser, yes, i tried to change the browser authentication as well
[08:33] <elite101> man this suck's there is no MSN" client for Kubuntu that supports Audio Chat or Voice/convo
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> karen: there should be one on that download page for the 5050 that says something about atheros and XP.
 Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.5) KHTML/3.5.6 (like Gecko)
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> willem_: can you get firefox?
[08:33] <karen> nosrednaekim:  Okay. *looking*
[08:33] <willem_> mmm, install it off the net?
[08:33] <elite101> lol will IE6 work on kubuntu?
[08:34] <danne_> elite101: yes i have been made to work
[08:34] <elite101> lol
[08:34] <elite101> im not sure why u would want too?
[08:34] <elite101> lol just to have that IE icon?
 ?? so what do you think? what can be the problem?
[08:35] <karen> nosrednaekim: There's one called "Atheros WLan Driver v<IP_ADDRESS>"   Could that be it?  I don't see any more about Atheros.
[08:36] <japaya> stdin: I think the mount was succesful, but it didn't give any kind of confirmation
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> karen: thats the one!
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> karen: download it.
[08:36] <japaya> stdin:  It works! thank you so much!!!
[08:36] <karen> nosrednaekim: Good! Thanks.
[08:36] <stdin> japaya: quick tip, no output = no error :)
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> stdin: peopleare used to windows where everything gives tons of output.
[08:37] <japaya> stdin: hehe ok thanks :)
[08:37] <japaya> Lol especially when you use vista
[08:37] <stdin> nosrednaekim: that's because they are so paranoid it won't work then need the confirmation :p
[08:37] <japaya> then the input is even bigger then the output
[08:38] <stdin> japaya: that was a very specific command, to get it to do exactly what you wanted it to do. most commands will have less parameters to them. "df -h" is a good example
[08:38] <marc0s> hello
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> stdin: indeed...
[08:39] <marc0s> i'm trying to disable the autorun of the knetworkmanager applet at kde login, but i don't found the way to, can someone help me? thanks!
[08:40] <karen> nosrednaekim: I click "download" and it does nothing, but at the top of the page it says "Firefox has prevented this site from opening 1 popup window".
[08:40] <japaya> stdin: okay I understand, thanks
[08:40] <nosrednaekim> karen: click on the bar up there and allow that site to do pop ups.
[08:40] <stdin> marc0s: any reason?
[08:40] <japaya> stdin: I'm keeping a small textdocument with all the commands just to make sure I don't have to bother you guys again with the same questions :p
[08:41] <jhutchins> karen: Click the red x in the lower right and open the popup.
[08:41] <stdin> japaya: good luck, there a thousands of commands :p
[08:41] <japaya> stdin: I hope to be able to learn them out of my head :p
[08:42] <marc0s> stdin: just because when i have networkmanager up i can't use my connection, just when i close it
 : I can telnet to port 80 of a site, and get the HTML, any ideas?
[08:42] <marc0s> and i don't need networkmanager is a desktop computer, no mobility at all
[08:42] <karen> nosrednaekim, jhutchins:  I tried, but clicking on the bar/X  does nothing.
[08:42] <elite101> what is the command if say i wanna get this qtjackctl
[08:42] <stdin> japaya: it can get very advanced too, like "ps aux --no-headers | sort -rnk 3,3 | head -20" is one of my favourites :p
[08:42] <elite101> please
[08:43] <nosrednaekim> elite101: I'd think you knew that by now "sudo apt-get install atjackctl"
[08:43] <nosrednaekim> *qtjackctl
[08:43] <elite101> lol
[08:43] <stdin> elite101: I think you mean "qjackctl"
[08:44] <karen> Oh, wait.  I think I got it.  Sorry for being inept.
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> karen: whats you email address? i'll just email the file to you ;)
[08:44] <stdin> marc0s: well, you'd have to (re)move /usr/share/autostart/knetworkmanager-autostart.desktop
[08:44] <elite101> could not find package?
[08:44] <elite101> yes i have the things enabled
[08:44] <japaya> stdin: haha I know the ps aux command but all the rest is a bit to advanced for me :P
[08:44] <marc0s> ok, i just searched in ~/.kde/autostart, didn't know about /usr/share
[08:44] <marc0s> thanks stdin!
[08:44] <karen> nosrednaekim:  Thanks.  I'll try this one more time.
[08:45] <stdin> japaya: that just lists the top 20 cpu hogs :)
[08:45] <DrHalan> how can i search in the net for packages with adept?
[08:45] <zorglu_> !adept | DrHalan
[08:45] <ubotu> DrHalan: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[08:45] <posingaspopular> hey all, im having a problem with trying to open add/remove applications in edgy. basically everytime i enter my root password, i get a 'conversation with su' failed' error
[08:45] <japaya> my amarok keeps crashing... when I try to play an mp3 it says it doesn't support it, tries to download the codecs but then crashes
[08:45] <posingaspopular> what do i do?
[08:46] <zorglu_> japaya: try to remove the xine cache
[08:46] <stdin> japaya: hmm, manual install coming your way. you on feisty ?
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> japaya: run "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> posingaspopular: enter your password, not root's
[08:46] <brian__> ok I found this
[08:46] <brian__>  When exe
[08:46] <brian__>        cuting commands, any output is mailed to the owner of the crontab (or to the user named in the MAILTO environment variable in the crontab, if such
[08:46] <brian__>        exists).
[08:46] <stdin> nosrednaekim: that's a meta package in feisty+
[08:46] <japaya> hehe okay thx guys :p
[08:47] <japaya> err, now what should I do? :D
[08:47] <posingaspopular> nosrednaekim: it's all the same password. login, root, whatever
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> stdin: oh.....
[08:47] <stdin> !info libxine1-ffmped
[08:47] <elite101>  sudo apt-get install qtjackctl there is no packages found? why is this?
[08:47] <brian__> Where and how do I define  the MAILTO:?
[08:47] <ubotu> Package libxine1-ffmped does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:47] <stdin> opps
[08:47] <stdin> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[08:47] <ubotu> libxine1-ffmpeg: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1534 kB, installed size 3692 kB
[08:47] <stdin> nosrednaekim: ^ that's the mp3 package
[08:48] <karen> nosrednaekim: Okay, it says it's finished downloading.  Is there something else I need to do to get wireless internet to work?
[08:48] <brian__> there is nothing listed in the man page of crontab about MAILTO
[08:48] <elite101> yes i have the things enable
[08:48] <stdin> japaya: once you installed the package, just restart amarok
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[08:48] <japaya> stdin: okay thanks, now installing the package
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> karen: oh yeah... :)
[08:48] <elite101>  sudo apt-get install qtjackctl cant not find package? why is this?
[08:49] <stdin> elite101: I think you mean "qjackctl"
[08:49] <nosrednaekim> karen: you probably downloaded it to your desktop, correct?
[08:49] <elite101> that how i spelt it
[08:49] <g2g591> for some reason the volume buttons on my keyboard don't work
[08:49] <stdin> elite101: no 't'
[08:49] <japaya> stdin: is there also a way to take a ghost of my current ubuntu installation so when I try some fancy stuff later I don't have to redo all my work?
[08:49] <elite101> lol
[08:49] <elite101> duhh
[08:49] <japaya> (in case things go wrong) :D
[08:49] <ubuntu> lolo
[08:49] <nosrednaekim> !hotkeys
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotkeys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <stdin> !backup | japaya
[08:50] <ubotu> japaya: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[08:50] <smettin> hello
[08:50] <g2g591> for some reason the volume buttons on my keyboard don't work
[08:51] <japaya> stdin: okay thanks, do you advise a method or are they all equal?
[08:51] <karen> nosrednaekim: Well... I don't see it on my desktop.
[08:51] <willem_> hello renico
[08:51] <renico> willem try sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:51] <stdin> japaya: depends on you're exact requirements, take a look at them all. time to do some research I'm afraid :p
[08:52] <renico> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[08:52] <willem_> E: Couldn't find package mozilla-firefox
[08:52] <nosrednaekim> karen: where did you download it to?
[08:53] <renico> willem try sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:53] <g2g591> for some reason the volume buttons on my keyboard don't work
[08:53] <genii> stdin: I'm partial to rsync backups.
[08:53] <stdin> willem_: check your sources, in adept: File > Manage Repositories
[08:53] <japaya> stdin: ok thanks :)
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> g2g591: they don't always work :)
[08:53] <g2g591> they worked in gnome
[08:53] <stdin> renico: don't tell new uses to use vim!
[08:53] <renico> willem: type i to edit file
[08:54] <karen> nosrednaekim:  Ark, I think.
[08:54] <stdin> renico: there is a perfectly good GUI
[08:54] <renico> willem try kate
[08:54] <stdin> renico: in adept...
[08:54] <japaya> stdin: I've also got some troubles with my flash movies etc in Mozilla, although I've installed the special plugin for mozilla using adept
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> g2g591: oh... well i've found that if you install kubuntu second, they don't work ...
[08:54] <willem_> renico dude, next?
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> karen: see if there is a folder in your home directory called downloads. of it the file itself is in there.
[08:55] <willem_> renico dude, where the file i should check?
[08:55] <stdin> japaya: the one called "flashplugin-nonfree" ?
[08:55] <g2g591> I guess I'll have to wait til my kubuntu cds come in the mail
[08:55] <japaya> stdin: I'm going to look it up
[08:55] <renico> uncomment the ***restricted universe multiverse
[08:55] <renico>  near the bottom of file
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> karen: you told it to open with ark?
[08:55] <stdin> japaya: that's the one that "just works"
 : Where are you from, the cd takes a while, if you are in RSA
[08:55] <karen> nosrednaekim:  Yeah. It says it's on the desktop, I just don't see it there.
 where is the file i should edit>:
[08:56] <nosrednaekim> karen: what says its on desktop?
[08:56] <g2g591> us...
[08:56] <renico> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:56] <stdin> karen: try looking in your home directory
[08:56] <nosrednaekim> renico: its kdesu...
[08:56] <stdin> nosrednaekim: I'm thinking firefox's download window..
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> stdin: yeah... but she said something about opening with Ark *holds his head*
[08:57] <renico> guys, where is the adept shortcut located in the kubuntu menu?
[08:57] <karen> Well, the folder that it's in says:  file:///tmp/AS5050_WLAN_Atheros.zip-Ark     And then underneath that it is On Desktop-1
[08:57] <stdin> renico: system > adept manager
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> karen: you still at that download page? if you are select for it to download again, but tell it to save file as instead of opening with ark.
[08:58] <nosrednaekim> karen: is there a window open called ark?
 : Thanks, Renico, dis oop, moet ek daar check?
[08:58] <willem_> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted
[08:58] <willem_> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted
[08:58] <willem_> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security universe
[08:58] <willem_> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security universe
[08:58] <willem_> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security multiverse
[08:58] <willem_> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security multiver
[08:58] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[08:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:58] <renico> willem save file then sudo apt-get update
[08:58] <willem_> sorry <ubotu>
[08:58] <japaya> stdin: I'm now using gnash, libgnash0, libswfdec0.3, mozilla-plugin-gnash and swf-player
[08:59] <karen> nosrednaekim: There's that one I told you about, and there's one with the same file name that has 13 files listed.
[08:59] <japaya> stdin: maybe those programs conflict?
 there are no hashes at the options at the end
[08:59] <stdin> japaya: yeah, gnash is an open source version, but doen't work with a lot of flash sites
[08:59] <nosrednaekim> karen: and is this one that has the 13 files labeled "ark"?
[08:59] <renico> guys please assist willem to open repos using adept-manager
[09:00] <japaya> stdin: so i should delete gnash?
 dis oop
[09:00] <Assid> 602 assid     15   0  217m  89m  30m S    0  5.9   1:31.00 firefox-bin
[09:00] <Assid> 217MB VM !?!?!?
[09:00] <stdin> japaya: remove all of those and install the one called "flashplugun-nonfree"
[09:00] <japaya> stdin: okay thanks :)
[09:00] <stdin> Assid: firefox is known for it's memory leeks
[09:01] <Assid> :(
[09:01] <stdin> Assid: mine's been open for hours, it's using  231m
[09:02] <karen> nosrednaekim:  The folder is under the file name I gave earlier, but the individual files have names like "ar5211.sys" and "data1.cab".
[09:02] <Assid> stdin: sucks man.. they should fix it
[09:02] <stdin> Assid: I just close/reopen it every now and then
[09:03] <japaya> stdin: I can't find a plugin named flashplugun/plugin-nonfree :s
[09:03] <nosredna> karen: sorry.did you say something? this is nosrednaekim...
[09:03] <stdin> japaya: are you on 32bit kubuntu or amd64?
[09:04] <karen> nosredna:  That's okay.  The last thing I said was:  The folder is under the file name I gave earlier, but the individual files have names like "ar5211.sys" and "data1.cab"
[09:04] <stdin> japaya: use "dpkg --print-installation-architecture" to find out
[09:04] <willem_> thanks guys
[09:04] <halppp> halp pluz!! I has a prublm!!
[09:04] <halppp> :'-(
[09:05] <nosredna> karen: ok,thats fine, save that foler as "/home/drivers" or something like that/
[09:05] <japaya> stdin: amd64
[09:05] <stdin> japaya: makes life a bit more difficult :p
[09:05] <stdin> japaya: you'll need to follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:05] <japaya> stdin: ohnoes, and it's already so hard :p
[09:06] <halppp> how do I add another user and its password? The GUI way isn't working
[09:06] <halppp> is this guide aight??
[09:06] <karen> nosredna: Okay, an error box came up that said, "You do not have permission to write to the directory............."
[09:06] <halppp> http://sayspy.blogspot.com/2006/08/ignorant-newbie-adding-new-user-under.html
[09:07] <japaya> stdin: err, do I have to run FF with wine to view Flash sh*t??? :s
[09:07] <nosredna> karen: sorry, I messed up, save it to "/home/<your username>/drivers"
[09:07] <halppp> pleaswe help
[09:07] <halppp> I need to add a user
[09:07] <karen> nosredna: That's okay.  I know this takes a lot of patience on your part.
[09:07] <nosredna> halppp: its easy, go to system settings->users
[09:08] <nosredna> karen: :)
[09:08] <stdin> japaya: no, just install the 32bit packages, the guide tells you how
[09:08] <halppp> nosredna: that way didn't help
[09:08] <japaya> stdin: ok thx
[09:08] <nosredna> does anyone here know how to set up ndiswrapper?
[09:08] <stdin> nosredna: when it comes to the ndiswrapper commands, there is a gui that makes it easier, called ndisgtk
[09:08] <willem_> bye thanks guys, nice evening for all
[09:09] <nosredna> stdin: could you PLEASE guide karen? I very unfortunately have to go!
[09:09] <stdin> nosredna: I can try I guess...
[09:09] <halppp> nosredna: ->User Management?
[09:09] <karen> nosredna:  Thank you very much!  You were a good guide.  Bye.
[09:10] <stdin> karen: how far you got?
[09:10] <nosredna> she has the files unzipped in her home directory under drivers/
[09:10] <nosredna> i'll be back in about 15-20 minutes actually
[09:10] <nosredna> halppp: yep
[09:11] <karen> nosredna: Cool!  I will have more questions, probably. Muahaha.
[09:11] <stdin> karen: ok, what files are in your drivers/ directory?
[09:15] <karen> stdin:  ar5211.sys   data1.cab   data1.hdr   data2.cab     ikernal.ex_   layout.bin   net5211.cat   net5221.inf   Notes.txt  Setup.exe  setup.inx   setup.iss
[09:16] <Assid> haha
[09:16] <Assid> mac is finally gonna have desktops!
[09:17] <Assid> multiple desktops
[09:17] <jc-denton> http://rafb.net/p/IQkVx880.html
[09:17] <Assid> only on mac leopard
[09:17] <Assid> hehe
[09:17] <jc-denton> why is this
[09:17] <czer323> Assid> mac has had multidesktops with third party programs for a long time.
[09:17] <stdin> karen: where did you download that from?
[09:17] <jc-denton> i want to try out kde4 now
[09:17] <Assid> czer323: 3rd party
[09:17] <Assid> exactly my point
[09:18] <stdin> jc-denton: what version ok kubuntu do you have?
[09:18] <karen> stdin: http://www.acerpanam.com/flex/acerdrivers/bin/drivers.html?CFID=3221373&CFTOKEN=57623150
[09:19] <czer323> Assid: and it works extremely well.    On teh flip side, windows has had a powertoy addon for multidesktops since xp.
[09:21] <stdin> jc-denton: and you have the feisty-backports repository enabled ?
[09:21] <stdin> karen: do you see the net5211.inf file ?
[09:21] <aaron_> Hi. Where do you change the settings for the k menu spacing?
[09:22] <karen> stdin: Yes..
[09:22] <stdin> karen: good, now you need to remove that atheros driver
[09:22] <karen> stdin:  Oh.  Will I have to reinstall it?
[09:22] <stdin> karen: no
[09:23] <stdin> karen: can you post "lsmod | grep ath" to pastebin again
[09:24] <karen> stdin: Sure, hold on.  Do I need to do this after I remove the atheros driver?
[09:24] <jc-denton> stdin: i added the line as described in the wiki
[09:24] <jc-denton> why is it supposed to work
[09:24] <stdin> karen: no, just as it is now
[09:24] <jc-denton> or is it known that there is something broken
[09:25] <stdin> jc-denton: it's supposed to work
[09:25] <jc-denton> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:25] <jc-denton> i just added this line
[09:25] <stdin> jc-denton: did you run "sudo apt-get update" after ?
[09:25] <jc-denton> sure
[09:25] <deminemi> can anyone help me with a simple bash script ?
[09:25] <deminemi> i just want it to su, password, and load a kernel module
[09:26] <stdin> jc-denton: try "sudo aptitude install kde4base-dev"
[09:26] <jc-denton> ah
[09:26] <jc-denton> that seems to work
[09:26] <jc-denton> humm
[09:26] <stdin> odd, apt-get should too
[09:26] <jc-denton> when do you decide to drop apt-get and replace it with aptitude
[09:27] <stdin> when apt fails, aptitude :)
[09:27] <velle> If I buy a usb headset that is plugnplay in Windows, will it also plugnplay in Kubuntu?
[09:27] <stdin> deminemi: try #bash
[09:27] <markinux> anyone know how to install wireless on Asus A6Km... i've been trying for over a week ;(
[09:27] <stdin> !wifi
[09:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:27] <deminemi> #bash
[09:28] <deminemi> ah, right
[09:28] <markinux> i've tried every piece of wireless documentation and its doing my head in
[09:28] <zorglu_> deminemi: a script loading a kernel module must have the root permission
[09:28] <karen> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33596/
[09:28] <markinux> it is installed it detects networks.. it attempts connections and then crashes
[09:29] <zorglu_> deminemi: aka either you launch the script itself via sudo, or you put the script as +setuid but this is considered dangerous
[09:29] <japaya> stdin: I've got my flash etc working! thank you very much! :)
[09:29] <jc-denton> so i'm curious about kde4
[09:29] <deminemi> there is no way to execute via clicking and have it log itself in ?
[09:30] <deminemi> like have it load then "su" "*password*" ?
[09:30] <stdin> karen: on run this: "sudo modprobe -r ath_pci wlan ath_hal"
[09:30] <stdin> japaya: :)
[09:30] <jc-denton> is there a plan to implement spellchecking in klauncher?
[09:30] <jc-denton> which can correct errors with a distance of 1 or 2?
[09:30] <Flygis> How do i get in to my external harddrive, I have connected it and got a popup to open it in a new window, but it didnt work.. anyway how do I get in to it?
[09:31] <markinux> i had wireless in dapper but it won't work on edgy or feisty
[09:31] <stdin> jc-denton: best place to ask that is in #kubuntu-devel or #kde4
[09:31] <stdin> karen: done that?
[09:31] <jc-denton> ah ic
[09:32] <jc-denton> there are many people on kde4
[09:32] <stdin> jc-denton: and they know more about it than I :)
[09:32] <karen> stdin: Yes, it didn't show anything. :S
[09:33] <stdin> karen: that's a good thing :)
[09:33] <karen> stdin: Oh. Yay! What do I do now?
[09:33] <stdin> karen: check that "lsmod | grep ath" now shows nothing
[09:34] <karen> stdin: Yeah, nothing.
[09:35] <stdin> karen: ok, now do this: echo blacklist ath_pci | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:36] <BboyMC> Siemka ;D
[09:36] <BboyMC> co tam jak tam ? :D
[09:36] <jc-denton> http://rafb.net/p/Md0BG530.html
[09:36] <jc-denton> hrmmm
[09:36] <stdin> karen: then you need to install the package called "ndisgtk", "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk"
[09:37] <stdin> jc-denton: doens't help if you don't post the whole output
[09:38] <lovaspillando> well, I will leave to studies, see you all
[09:38] <karen> stdin: I tried the first one, and it said "permission denied"
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> stdin: karen back!
[09:38] <AloBlumenau> HI I added an user from System Settings and now I want to made it browseable at windows, but I cant do it using SHARING from System Settings
[09:39] <stdin> karen: "echo blacklist ath_pci | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" said that ?
[09:39] <AloBlumenau> I added the Shared Folders, the user who have access but nothing happened
[09:39] <karen> nosrednaekim: Welcome back!
[09:39] <karen> stdin: Yes.. I'll check again to make sure I got it.
[09:40] <karen> stdin: Yes. Yes, it did.
[09:40] <jc-denton> http://rafb.net/p/nLC8Gn61.html
[09:41] <stdin> karen: did it ask you for a password?
[09:41] <karen> stdin: No. :S
[09:41] <nosrednaekim> karen: just run " kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" and add the line "blacklist ath_pci" at the end of the file
[09:42] <stdin> jc-denton: sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base-data_3.92.0-0ubuntu1~feisty1_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base_3.92.0-0ubuntu1~feisty1_i386.deb ; sudo dpkg --configure -a "
[09:42] <booya> stdin: any ideeas why i cannot upload files on sendspace.com ? :)
[09:43] <booya> tells me that i have a firewall or something like that
[09:43] <jc-denton>  --force-overwrite sounds good
[09:43] <stdin> booya: are you behind a router ?
[09:43] <booya> for sure no
[09:43] <karen> nosrednaekim:  What do you mean by ""add the line at the end of the file"?  Do I hit enter, then add it?
[09:43] <jc-denton> stdin: will kde3 still work then?
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> karen: yes.
[09:44] <stdin> jc-denton: yeah, kde3 and kde4 are kept separate
[09:44] <nosrednaekim> karen: put it on a new line
[09:44] <jc-denton> but not if it overwrite stuff
[09:44] <karen> nosrednaekim: Okay, thanks.
[09:44] <stdin> booya: no clue then, try another site?
[09:44] <booya> i will :)
[09:44] <stdin> karen: then you need to install the package called "ndisgtk", "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk"
[09:45] <stdin> karen: (after you save that file)
[09:45] <karen> stdin, nosrednaekim:  Wow, it didn't let me add the next line.. A file box popped up, and stuff.
[09:46] <stdin> hmm
[09:46] <stdin> what does it say in the box?
[09:46] <karen> It's a lot.  Just a second.
[09:48] <karen> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33597/
[09:49] <Rictoo> What's a good 2 player game to play on linux?
[09:50] <stdin> karen: what happens when you try to add a new line?
[09:50] <stdin> !games
[09:50] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:50] <stdin> Rictoo: ^
[09:51] <jussi01> Rictoo: what sort of game are you after?
[09:51] <brian__> ok I am back
[09:51] <jussi01> there are a lot of good ones
[09:51] <Rictoo> Something me (15), and my brother (19) would enjoy :P
[09:51] <karen> stdin: Nothing happens, but I can't.  I'll show you what it says now.
[09:51] <jussi01> Rictoo: do you enjoy first person shooters?
[09:51] <jussi01> I can recomend tremulous very highly
[09:51] <jussi01> or you can go and find a copy of heroes of might and magic 3
[09:52] <Rictoo> my video card is screwed up :\ (physically, not the drivers; long story)
[09:52] <Rictoo> Maybe some sort of anime style fighting game? XD
[09:52] <andremarte> ciao a tutti
[09:52] <jussi01> Rictoo: warsow!!
[09:52] <Rictoo> (his style)
[09:52] <Rictoo> warsow?
[09:52] <karen> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33598/
[09:52] <jussi01> !info warsow
[09:52] <ubotu> Package warsow does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:52] <stdin> !it | andremarte
[09:52] <ubotu> andremarte: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:52] <jussi01> !info warsow gutsy
[09:53] <ubotu> warsow: A comic-style fast-paced 3D ego-shooter. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.31.dfsg-6 (gutsy), package size 828 kB, installed size 2304 kB
[09:53] <jussi01> Rictoo: http://warsow.net/
[09:53] <Rictoo> does it require a semi good video card...?
[09:53] <amelia> I get this error : Errors were encountered while processing: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[09:53] <Rictoo> 145158 <    Rictoo> my video card is screwed up :\ (physically, not the drivers; long story)
[09:53] <brian__> here is my situation: I am trying to run a script via cron using crontab to set it up. Part of the script needs sudo in order to run. I was told that if I was running it through crontab that the script would run because crontab uses root privilages. The script runs up until the point that sudo is needed. In syslog, it shows that the script ran and that it sent an email with response 0X0001. How can I know what is going on here?
[09:53] <amelia> that error occurs when I install with apt and pals
[09:53] <jussi01> Rictoo: maybe...
[09:54] <stdin> karen: in kate, you put a new line and put in "blacklist ath_pci", not in the konsole
[09:54] <jussi01> Rictoo: there are some good emulators for nintendo out there...
[09:54] <jussi01> !info zsnes
[09:54] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:54] <Rictoo> any good 2 player games for snes? XD
[09:55] <jussi01> Rictoo: that you will have to find yourself
[09:55] <jussi01> !info mame
[09:55] <ubotu> Package mame does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:55] <stdin> !find mame
[09:55] <ubotu> Found: kxmame, xmame-common, xmame-gl, xmame-sdl, xmame-svga (and 2 others)
[09:55] <karen> stdin: Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean.  I'll try it again.
[09:56] <xero> alright i need some linux networking help. every time i need to use the internet i have to reconfigure my ip and gateway through knetworkconfig. It ssms that no mater what i do the darn hing wont hold its settings.
[09:56] <Rictoo> Wormux looks cool...
[09:56] <jthomas> brian__: if you run it in the 'sudo crontab -e' cron, then the script will already be running as root and the sudo should be taken out.
[09:56] <karen> stdin: Wait, I think I get it.
[09:57] <brian__> so if I edit crontab as root ( sudo) then it will run as root when sceduled?
[09:57] <brian__> *scheduled
[09:57] <jthomas> yes it'll be root.
[09:57] <karen> stdin:  Okay, I tried typing the line in Kate.  It didn't do anything...
[09:57] <jthomas> which may be bad, be careful what your script is running/doing!
[09:57] <stdin> karen: good :) now save that and close kate
[09:57] <brian__> ok here I go again...thanx!
[09:58] <jthomas> let us know!
[09:58] <karen> stdin: Oh. Okay!
[09:58] <karen> stdin: Do I need to save it as anything in particular, or just "save"?
[09:58] <stdin> karen: no, just save
[09:58] <karen> stdin: Okay, done.
[09:59] <xero> anyone got any idea how to fix my problem? no rush...
[09:59] <stdin> karen: then back in konsole, run "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk"
[10:02] <Eyeless> !info java
[10:02] <ubotu> Package java does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:02] <stdin> !java
[10:02] <Eyeless> !about java
[10:02] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <dougl> !info linuxmce
[10:02] <ubotu> Package linuxmce does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:03] <stdin> karen: done that yet?
[10:03] <dougl> !info linux
[10:03] <karen> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33600/
[10:03] <ubotu> linux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.28.1 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[10:03] <karen> Yeah. That's what it said.
[10:04] <stdin> karen: ok, can you post what the output of "sudo apt-get -f install" is (to pastebin)
[10:04] <karen> Sure, just a second.
[10:05] <jc-denton> humm
[10:05] <jc-denton> i did as  written on the kubuntu page
[10:05] <jc-denton>     * export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib
[10:05] <jc-denton>     * export KDEDIRS=/usr/lib/kde4
[10:05] <jc-denton>     * export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH
[10:05] <jc-denton>     * export KDEHOME=~/.kde4
[10:05] <jc-denton> woops sry
[10:05] <jc-denton> klauncher: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv
[10:05] <jc-denton> now i get this
[10:06] <stdin> jc-denton: report that to #kubuntu-devel
[10:07] <karen> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33603/
[10:07] <karen> stdin: Y?
[10:07] <stdin> yes
[10:07] <Karti> Hi all
[10:08] <lesik>
[10:08] <lesik>
[10:08] <lesik>
[10:09] <stdin> lesik: ?
[10:09] <lesik>    )))
[10:09] <stdin> !ru | lesik
[10:09] <ubotu> lesik:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:09] <lesik> !! !!!
[10:10] <yamal> lol
[10:10] <karen> stdin: Ah, a lince agreement. Nothing for me to click on, though.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33604/
[10:10] <jc-denton> russian characters look cool
[10:10] <karen> *license
[10:11] <jc-denton> however i have no idea what they mean
[10:11] <stdin> karen: use the tab key to select "OK" then press enter
[10:11] <anthronaut> "!!!" he said "thank you", that's all I know :-)
[10:12] <yamal> he was writing in russian on purpose to someone would use the bot to tell him the russian channel ;)
[10:12] <anthronaut> lol
[10:13] <yamal> that's what the text says
[10:13] <brian__> ok I tried that, but in syslog it still shows me as running the script
[10:14] <brian__> and it is not executing the command cat $1 > /dev/lp0
[10:15] <karen> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33605/
[10:16] <stdin> karen: that's fine
[10:16] <karen> stdin: Okay.  Do I still need to remove the Atheros files?
[10:17] <stdin> karen: you don't need to, that line you put in the blacklist file stopped it from loading
[10:17] <ubuntu> wow
[10:17] <karen> stdin: Ah, okay.  Do I need to do anything else now?
[10:17] <DevilsX> lmao
[10:17] <stdin> karen: just make sure ndisgtk is installed with "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk"
[10:17] <djdarkman_> hy, someone knows how to foward ports with firestarter?
[10:17] <brian__> when I set up cron as root (sudo su, then gnome-schedule) and schedule it there, absolutely nothing happens
[10:18] <karen> stdin: Okay.
[10:18] <karen> stdin: Didn't I just install that?
[10:18] <stdin> karen: probably, but just making sure
[10:19] <karen> stdin: Okay. Where should it be? (Sorry.)
[10:19] <AloBlumenau> HI I added an user from System Settings and now I want to made it browseable at windows, but I cant do it using SHARING from System Settings
[10:19] <AloBlumenau> I added the Shared Folders, the user who have access but nothing happened
[10:20] <stdin> karen: just press Alt-F2 and type in: kdesu ndisgtk
[10:21] <Dreamore> Can anyone help me about Kopete? I couldn't find where can I set options about tabs.
[10:22] <Dreamore> I don't want to use tab options.
[10:22] <karen> stdin: Ah! It says "command not found"
[10:23] <jhutchins> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:23] <czer323> dang dude, I really like using Calibri on windows, but when I tried to use it on Kubuntu, the spacing is all screwy :(  RIP Calibri
[10:23] <jhutchins> !br | AloBlumenau
[10:23] <ubotu> AloBlumenau: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:23] <Dreamore> Noone will help me?
[10:23] <CyD> Dreamore, Settings > Configure.. > Behavior, Chat Tab,
[10:23] <CyD> have patience :)
[10:23] <CyD> Chat Window Grouping Policy, Dreamore
[10:23] <stdin> karen: try "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk" again
[10:24] <karen> stdin: Okay.
[10:24] <CyD> "Open All Messages In New Window"
[10:24] <Flygis> I have a problem... I can't get in to my USB hard drive, I get the message: "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options-refuesd uid 1000" need help :P
[10:24] <winbond> what is the partition/format utility in kubuntu? and does it work with usb?
[10:24] <stdin> !format
[10:24] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:25] <trekdanne> winbond: gparted is generally thought to be more mature than qtparted
[10:25] <Dreamore> CyD: I am at there. What must I choose?
[10:25] <CyD> Dreamore, "Open All Messages In New Window"
[10:25] <winbond> trekdanne: is this konsole utility or gui?
[10:25] <Dreamore> Thank's.
[10:25] <CyD> from the 'Chat Window Grouping Policy' dropdown
[10:25] <CyD> Dreamore, welcome :)
[10:26] <trekdanne> winbond: gui
[10:26] <Dreamore> CyD: I am new on Kubuntu
[10:26] <CyD> Dreamore, hope you enjoy it
[10:26] <winbond> trekdanne: ok , thanks
[10:26] <Dreamore> I was using a local distro, so new system is different for me.
[10:26] <trekdanne> winbond: both rely on parted
[10:26] <Dreamore> CyD: Thank's again :)
[10:26] <winbond> trekdanne: do i need to install it or does it come installed with kubuntu?
[10:27] <karen> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33607/
[10:27] <trekdanne> winbond: neither gparted nor qtparted come installed with kubuntu,
[10:27] <winbond> trekdanne: kk
[10:28] <trekdanne> winbond: you can easily install it through adept tho
[10:28] <stdin> karen: ok, good, now press Alt-F2 again and put in: ndisgtk
[10:28] <stdin> karen: opps. that's : kdesu ndisgtk
[10:28] <winbond> trekdanne: got it, can it format in fat32
[10:28] <trekdanne> winbond: yes :)
[10:30] <germanjew> can any1 plz tell me whether i can use cos and sin in C if i included <math.h>?
[10:30] <winbond> trekdanne: great, thank you ,
[10:30] <trekdanne> germanjew: yes you can
[10:30] <germanjew> thanks allot
[10:30] <trekdanne> germanjew: however you need to pass radians ofc
[10:30] <stdin> germanjew: you should, there is a channel for C: ##C
[10:31] <karen> stdin: A box titled "Wireless Network Drivers" popped up.  it says, "Currently Installed Windows Drivers:" but there's nothing there.
[10:31] <stdin> karen: good so far
[10:31] <karen> Oh, good.
[10:31] <karen> What do I do now?
[10:31] <germanjew> should there be a problem with : x1 = x0 + (x - x0)*cos(rad) - (y - y0)*sin(rad);?
[10:31] <germanjew> what server is the ##C ch on?
[10:31] <stdin> germanjew: this one
[10:32] <stdin> karen: click "Install new driver"
[10:32] <karen> Okay.
[10:32] <germanjew> ty
[10:32] <stdin> karen: then click the "(none)",
[10:33] <ryaren> hi
[10:33] <trekdanne> hello
[10:33] <stdin> karen: they you find the net5211.inf file and select it
[10:33] <Goliath23_> hi.
[10:33] <Goliath23_> isn't it possible for grub to boot a windows installation on /dev/hda5 ?
[10:34] <ryaren> Can u help me pls a littlebit? When I started my computer yesterday the mounting process didn't work.. I mean it didn't mount the ntfs filesystems, however I can't edit the fstab! :(
[10:34] <stdin> Goliath23_: yes, grub can boot it from anywhere
[10:35] <jhutchins> stdin: Sometimes windows can be picky about where it boots from.
[10:36] <stdin> jhutchins: didn't way windows would boot, just that grub would boot it :p
[10:36] <Goliath23_> stdin: I always get error 12
[10:36] <karen> stdin: I can't find it.  Right now I'm in a box that says "select INF file" and my two options are "Desktop" and "drivers.zip"...
[10:36] <trekdanne> ryaren: have you tried mounting it manually with something like: "su mount /dev/your_drive" in a console
[10:36] <stdin> !grub | goliath23
[10:36] <ubotu> goliath23: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:37] <ryaren> trekdanne: Of course but nothin happened
[10:37] <stdin> karen: where did you extract the zip ?
[10:37] <Goliath23_> stdin: 12 : Invalid device requested. <- I use root            (hd0,5)
[10:38] <karen> stdin:  Sorry, I don't know what you mean.
[10:38] <Goliath23_> stdin: because windows was installed after ubuntu on the fifth partition (formatted with ntfs)
[10:38] <karen> stdin: It was just there...
[10:38] <stdin> Goliath23_: (hd0,5) is hda6
[10:39] <stdin> Goliath23_:  5th partition??
[10:39] <karen> stdin:  Should I close it out and run the command again?
[10:39] <stdin> Goliath23_: you mean you have an extended one too?
[10:39] <ElFrax> got a quick prob. stupid questen, but how do I activate backports in /etc/apt/sources.list ? .
[10:39] <stdin> !backports
[10:39] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[10:39] <Goliath23_> stdin: hda1 = linux root; hda2 = swap; hda3 = fat23 (transfer); hda4 = extended (made by windows installer) ; hda5 = windows / ntfs
[10:40] <Goliath23_> stdin: yes, windows created it :/
[10:40] <ElFrax> ty
[10:40] <stdin> Goliath23_: well you need to change root (hd0,5) to root (hd0,4)
[10:41] <stdin> karen: close the file open window and make sure it's extracted
[10:41] <Goliath23_> stdin: trying right now
[10:41] <elite101> hey is there a guitar tuner program? i have a tuner but it only tunes in E and not Drop C/D
[10:41] <Goliath23_> stdin: I'm giving support here for my brother via phone and ssh. so it's not that easy :)
[10:41] <karen> stdin: How do I make sure it's extracted?
[10:42] <karen> stdin: I closed the file open window.
[10:42] <stdin> karen: look in konqueror
[10:42] <Goliath23_> stdin: it still gives error 12, even with "rootnoverify    hd(0,4)"
[10:42] <brian__> anybody have good experience with cron and crontab?
[10:42] <Goliath23_> stdin: sure that grub is able to boot an extended partition formatted with ntfs?
[10:43] <Goliath23_> stdin: maybe I need an extra grub-paket to make it work with ntfs?
[10:43] <stdin> Goliath23_: he has added "chainload +1" ?
[10:43] <frojnd> what's the command to shut down or restart the system?
[10:43] <Goliath23_> stdin: yes
[10:43] <karen> stdin: Sorry, how do I do that?
[10:43] <stdin> frojnd: "shutdown -r now" (to reboot now)
[10:44] <frojnd> ok
[10:44] <frojnd> tnx
[10:44] <elite101> hey is there a guitar tuner program? i have a tuner but it only tunes in E and not Drop C/D
[10:44] <sayers> why doesnt sound work on this laptop???
[10:44] <sayers> It was working earlier.
[10:45] <stdin> Goliath23_: not sure then, I haven't had to dual boot with windows in years (but it being ntfs won't matter)
[10:45] <ElFrax> anyone have experience huge fonts when using intel gfx card?
[10:45] <stdin> karen: you see the "computer" icon in the bottom left of the screen?
[10:45] <Goliath23_> stdin: http://rafb.net/p/FUlDd180.html
[10:45] <karen> stdin: Yep!
[10:46] <stdin> karen: click that, then click "Home Folder"
[10:46] <elite101> hey
[10:46] <karen> stdin: Okay, "Desktop" and "drivers.zip" are there.
[10:46] <grendal_prime> anything on the werid font situation..everything in this guys browse dialog boxes looks like boxes and ?'s like there is asystem font that did not get installed
[10:46] <stdin> Goliath23_: see the extra "root" there, on the 2nd line?
[10:46] <elite101> hello?
[10:46] <grendal_prime> sorry i dont think anyone reponded to that earlyer.
[10:46] <Goliath23_> stdin: yes
[10:47] <Goliath23_> stdin: supposed to be a delimiter or so
[10:47] <Goliath23_> stdin: works fine on my pc
[10:47] <Goliath23_> but maybe...
[10:47] <elite101> :S
[10:47] <Goliath23_> stdin: http://rafb.net/p/R6aWua60.html <- this is the partition table
[10:48] <Goliath23_> stdin: is the bootable flag missing?
[10:48] <stdin> karen: right click the "drivers.zip" and go to Extract > Extract here
[10:48] <elite101> hey
[10:48] <stdin> elite101: yes, we see you
[10:48] <elite101> k
[10:48] <elite101> lol
[10:48] <elite101> no channels were responding?
[10:48] <elite101> even windows channel
[10:49] <stdin> Goliath23_: not sure then..
[10:49] <karen> stdin: Okay, the files are there... What should I do now?
[10:49] <sayers> why isnt my sound working anymore? Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[10:49] <CyD> elite101, search google for 'linux guitar tuner' or search adept/synaptic etc for 'guitar' or such, there's a few
[10:49] <stdin> karen: go back to the ndisgtk app and select the net5211.inf file
[10:50] <elite101> k
[10:50] <elite101> thanx
[10:50] <CyD> elite101, or,
[10:50] <CyD> elite101, tune your low E to your 3rd string, a D :)
[10:50] <elite101> i asked first because u guys might no any that u used so
[10:50] <elite101> no
[10:50] <elite101> FADCGC
[10:50] <elite101> lol that doesnt work? im not van hellen u know
[10:51] <elite101> its a drop C
[10:51] <CyD> it's still doable :) i tune to CGCFAC
[10:51] <elite101> yeah but i do a cover
[10:51] <elite101> so
[10:51] <CyD> with fun use of the fretboard
[10:51] <stdin> elite101,CyD : > offtopic
[10:51] <CyD> i gotcha :)
[10:51] <elite101> i need it to be rite on the money
[10:51] <elite101> k sorry
[10:51] <CyD> sry
[10:51] <karen> stdin: I found the file.. After I click on it, do I click "install"?
[10:51] <stdin> karen: yes
[10:51] <karen> stdin: Okay.
[10:52] <elite101> CyD, come to the off-topic channel for a sec
[10:52] <karen> stdin: It says "Hardware present: No"..
[10:52] <stdin> hmm
[10:53] <karen> stdin: That doesn't sound good.
[10:54] <stdin> karen: ok, delete that drivers folder and the drivers.zip file
[10:54] <stdin> karen: then download ftp://ftp.work.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_5100/driver/802ABG_Atheros_v5_1_1_9.zip and extract that
[10:54] <karen> stdin: Okay.
[10:55] <brian__>  I have a script, when I run via CLI it runs fine. I do need to use sudo in order to run this script as it accesses /dev/lp0. When I try to run the script with cron, it does not complete ( some of the script does complete), but I do not know why it does not complete. I have looked at syslog, but it just states that it ran. I have the output gong to and error file, but it is empty. Any ideas?
[10:57] <brian__> when I setup root's crontab to run it nothing happens
[10:57] <karen> stdin: Okay,now what do I do?
[10:58] <stdin> karen: same as before, select the net5211.inf file from the extracted files
[10:59] <elite101> is it sudo apt get-install and then the name of the program?
[11:00] <stdin> elite101: sudo apt-get install packagename
[11:00] <elite101> k
[11:00] <karen> stdin: Oookay, it says "driver "driver" already installed"...
[11:01] <stdin> karen: ahh, do you see the image in the main window?
[11:01] <karen> stdin: Image of what in which window? (Sorry, again.)
[11:02] <stdin> karen: the one in the ndisgtk window, that has "Hardware present: no"
[11:03] <karen> stdin: There's an image of a monitor and a wrench...
[11:03] <stdin> yep
[11:03] <stdin> karen: click that, then click "Remove Driver"
[11:03] <karen> Oh, okay.
[11:04] <stdin> press Yes when asked
[11:05] <karen> stdin: I did that, but it's still there.
[11:05] <stdin> hmm, try it again?
[11:05] <karen> Did that, too, but I'll try again.
[11:05] <karen> stdin: Still not working. :|
[11:06] <stdin> karen: ok, close the window
[11:06] <karen> stdin: Okay, then what?
[11:07] <stdin> karen: in konsole run "sudo ndiswrapper-1.9 -l"
[11:07] <stdin> post what it says
[11:12] <stdin> karen: ?
[11:14] <karen> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33612/
[11:14] <karen> Sorry about that.
[11:15] <stdin> karen: now do "sudo ndiswrapper-1.9 -d net5211"
[11:15] <karen> Okay
[11:16] <stdin> karen: after that open "kdesu ndisgtk" again
[11:17] <faemir> can someone tell me the equivalent of synaptic in kde?
[11:17] <stdin> adept
[11:17] <faemir> that's it!
[11:17] <Halifax> Hello all! I was wondering if someone could help me with this: When I go to play a video (any player, any type), it just displays a blue screen. If I open another video in another player (any player, any type), that video plays fine.
[11:17] <faemir> thanks, i haven't used kde in like 6 years
[11:18] <stdin> faemir: well adept is quite new
[11:18] <faemir> hmm, i must of used something else back then :|
[11:18] <stdin> faemir: probably kpackage or something
[11:18] <karen> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33613/
[11:19] <stdin> karen: ahh try "sudo ndiswrapper-1.9 -r net5211"
[11:23] <karen> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33615/
[11:25] <grendal_prime> ok a simpler question, if i want to updat a machine from dapper to fiesty i will need to do the update to edgy first correct? and next question is it possible to just edit my sources.list file like with debian core dist and run a dist upgrade?
[11:25] <stdin> karen: post it to http://pastebin.com/ it's taking too long to load in there
[11:26] <grendal_prime> if i can do that what are the dist names i need..edgy and fiesty?
[11:26] <stdin> grendal_prime: you will need  to go in order, yes
[11:26] <Blissex> grendal_prime: "edit my sources.list file like with debian core dist" no, unless you really know what you are doing, and even then it is very dodgy.
[11:26] <stdin> !upgrade
[11:26] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:26] <stdin> grendal_prime: see that link (for all versions)
[11:28] <karen> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d170872bf
[11:29] <stdin> karen: you did "sudo ndiswrapper-1.9 -r net5211" ? (with the -r  ? )
[11:29] <karen> Yes... That's what it said...
[11:30] <stdin> no, it wouldn't say that with -r
[11:30] <stdin> karen: copy and paste it
[11:30] <karen> Oh.  Weird. Hold on a second.
[11:31] <grendal_prime> really? its that big of a difference to just replace all the dappers with edgy and then run dist-upgrade?  I would think they would stick the the methods debian has built
[11:31] <Halifax> xine
[11:31] <Halifax> oops. Sorry wrong window. ^_^
[11:32] <karen> stdin: http://pastebin.com/m41ac4b5c
[11:32] <mikkael> !paste
[11:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:32] <stdin> grendal_prime: no, there can be some major differences between versions. eg: edgy has replaced the normal init system with upstart
[11:32] <karen> Okay, that's it.
[11:32] <mikkael> i get this error in synaptic: what can i do? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33616/
[11:33] <stdin> karen: copy and paste it, you typed it wrong, you put an extra space in there :  sudo ndiswrapper-1.9 -r net5211
[11:33] <karen> Oh, sorry.
[11:35] <karen> stdin: Okay, done.   Nothing happened.
[11:35] <stdin> karen: now "sudo ndiswrapper-1.9 -l" should show nothing?
[11:36] <stdin> mikkael: did you try manually removing all the kernel package files or something ?
[11:36] <mikkael> its from a old kernel, i removed the old kernel when i was using a newer one
[11:37] <stdin> mikkael: yeah, did you do that by rm'ing the files?
[11:37] <mikkael> stdin: no, only with synaptic
[11:38] <stdin> mikkael: try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.22-7-generic"
[11:38] <karen> stdin: Yeah, nothing.
[11:39] <ubuntu> hi
[11:39] <stdin> karen: ok, now open up "kdesu ndisgtk" again, and select the net5211.inf file
[11:39] <grendal_prime> ok that tool sucks
[11:39] <mikkael> stdin: not available
[11:39] <grendal_prime> can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk
[11:40] <grendal_prime> im gonna do the edit the source.list file
[11:40] <stdin> grendal_prime: look at the Kubuntu tools
[11:40] <stdin> grendal_prime: or Kubuntu instructions rather
[11:41] <Aranel> how can I format my MMC card from Kubuntu ?
[11:42] <stdin> Aranel: see "man mkfs"
[11:42] <karen> stdin: It says "Hardware Present: No" again. Ah!
[11:42] <stdin> karen: what's the exact model of your laptop?
[11:42] <stdin> make/model
[11:43] <karen> Acer Aspire 5570-2977 ?
[11:43] <viruzz23> Hello there
[11:44] <viruzz23> is there someone who knows which kubuntu version is 'Intel GMA x3100 (965GM) ready'?
[11:44] <AloBlumenau> please help me, I created an user, I shared its folder (all using system settings of kubuntu) but nothing happens, when a I try to access from windows its doesnt accept the password
[11:44] <jhutchins> For lists of supported hardware on (K)Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:44] <AloBlumenau> and I have another user working fine
[11:44] <stdin> viruzz23: does feisty work?
[11:45] <grendal_prime> kubuntu tools? where the hell is that...im thinking this blows compaired to the simplisity of etch
[11:45] <AloBlumenau> now I tried to remove the share and system crashs (for those who said linux dont crash)
[11:45] <jhutchins> !samba | AloBlumenau
[11:45] <ubotu> AloBlumenau: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:45] <stdin> grendal_prime: use etch if you want to
[11:45] <AloBlumenau> I tried
[11:45] <AloBlumenau> swat doesnt work
[11:46] <viruzz23> stdin: I dunno, someone said, Kubuntu Gutsy would be ready, but I dunno whether this is right
[11:46] <karen> stdin:  Would it be horribly annoying/inconvenient to continue this at another time/day?
[11:46] <karen> (I think I have to go soon.)
[11:47] <stdin> viruzz23: gutsy should work with it, but it won't be released for another 2 months
[11:47] <Aranel> how can I change my Katapult's settings ?
[11:47] <jhutchins> karen: As long as you have the endurance to keep after it.
[11:47] <arriesp> hi
[11:47] <viruzz23> stdin: excuse me, what do you mean?
[11:47] <AloBlumenau> why the share of System Setting doesnt work?
[11:47] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: If swat didn't work most as documented, be assured that there would be thousands of users who would notice.
[11:48] <stdin> viruzz23: gutsy is the current development version, it's not considered stable yet
[11:48] <stdin> !gutsy
[11:48] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:48] <karen> stdin: ?
[11:49] <stdin> karen: I'm looking on the ubuntu forums
[11:49] <viruzz23> I see
[11:49] <karen> stdin: Okay.. Thanks..
[11:50] <viruzz23> stdin: What step do you suggest next?
[11:51] <stdin> karen: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512828 ( book mark it if you don't have time now, I'll probably be here tomorrow too (its 22:51 here))
[11:52] <stdin> viruzz23: you can either wait for 2 months, or install feisty and use the vesa driver in feisty until gutsy comes out, or install gutsy now
[11:53] <viruzz23> stdin: Well, thats what I also knew before ;) :D
[11:53] <karen> stdin: Okay.. Thank you for spending so much time, and everything. I'm sure it wasn't the most fun thing ever. :)
[11:54] <stdin> karen: not the least fun I've had tho :p
[11:54] <stdin> viruzz23: it's up to you to decide which to do
[11:54] <karen> Haha.  Well, that's nice to know.  See ya.
[11:54] <stdin> cya soon
[11:55] <AloBlumenau> jhutchins: but its not working, I dont care about swat, the problem is with samba
[11:55] <AloBlumenau> I have an user called workspace who works fine
[11:55] <guerillapimp> hello
[11:55] <AloBlumenau> now I went ADDUSER on system settings and ADDED an user
[11:55] <AloBlumenau> then I went SHARING and add an folder
[11:55] <AloBlumenau> I restarted smbd
[11:56] <AloBlumenau> I used cat /etc/passwd | mkpasswd > /etc/samba/smbpasswd
[11:56] <AloBlumenau> and I restarted it again
[11:56] <jhutchins> Hm. Is that supposed to work with shadow passwords?
[11:57] <waylandbill_> AloBlumenau: did you smbpasswd -a  to add a user?
[11:57] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: I would think you'd have to cat /etc/shadow at the least.
[11:57] <posingaspopular> hey i have a bunch of audio files that need to be converted to ogg vorbis. what's the best way to do this?
[11:57] <AloBlumenau> I did, but I think smbpasswd is not working because its not adding user to smbpasswd file
[11:57] <waylandbill_> posingaspopular: oggenc
[11:58] <AloBlumenau> jhutchins: do I have to do it same way I did with passwd?
[11:58] <stdin> !info soundkonverter | posingaspopular
[11:58] <ubotu> posingaspopular: soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 365 kB, installed size 1456 kB
[11:58] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: No, I think that you passed passwd to smbpasswd, which does not contain the actual passwords.  Where did you get the idea that this would work?
[11:58] <AloBlumenau> but why with workspace user its worked?
[11:58] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: (I mean, it seems reasonable...)
[11:58] <AloBlumenau> at the web
[11:58] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: Big place.
[11:59] <posingaspopular> thanks
[11:59] <AloBlumenau> well, is the first place to look isnt it?
[11:59] <runlevelten> depends how you're working, if in a console, just use oggenc. If in a GUI, make sure you have audiokonvert service menus.
[11:59] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: Try giving me a specific reference.
[11:59] <runlevelten> then you can select the files, right click, convert to ogg.
[11:59] <AloBlumenau> ok
[11:59] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get install soundkonvertor?
[12:00] <AloBlumenau> smbd is working because one of the users is browseable
[12:00] <stdin> posingaspopular: yep
[12:00] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: What you said should not have worked as far as I know, unless somehow smbpassword is smart enough to read /etc/shadow for actual passwords.  It's just that I've never heard of it, so I don't know for sure.
[12:00] <AloBlumenau> hmm
[12:00] <AloBlumenau> i see
[12:00] <posingaspopular> couldn't find package
[12:00] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: WHen you say one of the users is browsable, explain what you mean please.  Can you brows the share as that user from another PC?
[12:01] <AloBlumenau> yes
[12:01] <AloBlumenau> it ask for pass and ok
[12:01] <waylandbill_> !info soundkonvertor
[12:01] <ubotu> Package soundkonvertor does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:01] <AloBlumenau> but now I have to add another user
[12:01] <AloBlumenau> and share it too
[12:01] <waylandbill_> !info soundkonverter
[12:01] <ubotu> soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 365 kB, installed size 1456 kB
[12:01] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: share what, the home directory?
[12:01] <AloBlumenau> the home directory of the user
[12:01] <AloBlumenau> yes
[12:02] <jhutchins> k.
[12:02] <stdin> posingaspopular: make sure you have universe enabled
[12:02] <AloBlumenau> I ll remove it (the user and shared folder) and do it again
[12:02] <posingaspopular> and do that... how?
[12:02] <stdin> !repos | posingaspopular
[12:02] <ubotu> posingaspopular: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:02] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: from the remote pc, try smbclient -L -U <seconduser>
[12:02] <vsudilov> anyone have a good resource for getting a driver for a new Brother printer?
[12:03] <AloBlumenau> remote pc is windows :(
[12:03] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: from the remote pc, try smbclient -L -U <seconduser> //<sharing machine.
[12:03] <jhutchins> Ah.
[12:03] <jhutchins> You know, I no longer have the gear to test this.
[12:03] <AloBlumenau> but I ll try from shell and forget gui interface of kubuntu
[12:03] <AloBlumenau> adduser -u name right?
[12:04] <stdin> vsudilov: is it listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersBrother
[12:04] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: Doesn't matter if you're on windows, I think you can only pass your current username.
[12:04] <stdin> vsudilov: is it listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersBrother
[12:04] <AloBlumenau> hm?
[12:04] <vsudilov> stdin: thanks ;)
[12:04] <AloBlumenau> Can't I have two users shared with samba?
[12:04] <stdin> vsudilov: and check for a driver on http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html  too
[12:05] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: You should be able to.
[12:05] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: I know how to do it with swat, not with the system menu.
[12:06] <AloBlumenau> unfortunattely swat doesnt work for me, I installed using synaptic but when I access localhost:901 I got an error
[12:07] <AloBlumenau> I already added it in inet.d and I have services running.. but..
[12:08] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: Other places to try are #ubuntu-br, #ubuntu-pt, and #samba.
[12:09] <stdin> AloBlumenau: you have to install an inded server too
[12:13] <AloBlumenau> jhutchins: is password problem
[12:13] <AloBlumenau> because when a I use guest its work
[12:16] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: Set the password manually.
[12:16] <AloBlumenau> how
[12:17] <jhutchins> AloBlumenau: I dont' know where you got the idea to cat the password file to smbpasswd, but like I said, as far as I know it won't work.