[10:36] <Paavi2_0> brian: i bet you mean symlink. it's quite easy...
[10:36] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: "Exchange ideas, share knowledge." and only give in in a Windows proprietary format. *sighs*
[10:36] <akatsuki> yeh i now
[10:36] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, and using rtmp
[10:36] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: I don't even know what that is :(
[10:36] <akatsuki> hello, i connect my laptop to an external monitor... using vga.. and ubuntu didnt load! anyone know how can i fix this?
[10:36] <Oprtz> hi there
[10:37] <brian> brian: Uh... Whatever Right Click>Make Link does :P I need one of those, and then I put it in /, which I dont have permissions for it says.
[10:37] <Oprtz> got the solution
[10:37] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, it's the way it is streamed..makes it impossible to play outside flash in linux currently
[10:37] <IdentityX> The content in my /etc/network/interfaces is "auto lo <newline> iface lo inet loopback". I can just put append the line to that?
[10:37] <Oprtz> as i already asked u guys that i am getting " initframs " error while installing ubuntu on my 2nd HDD
[10:37] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: they need a good talking to
[10:37] <xx0xx> how to install eBox? http://ebox-platform.com
[10:37] <Oprtz> i remove the HDD and try it on 1st HDD i can use it and now i am chatting from X desktop
[10:38] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, sadly this is very common for free services.. I think they don't have any money for staff so they outsource it to some commercial company who doesn't care
[10:38] <dexem> xx0xx: it's in hardy universe repository
[10:38] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: true :(
[10:39] <nesp> IdentityX: doesn't it have a "iface eth0 inet static?
[10:39] <xx0xx> dexem what version is hardy?
[10:39] <nesp> IdentityX: or something like that..
[10:39] <lesshaste> which plugin for firefox can handle application/x-ms-wmp  ?
[10:39] <dexem> xx0xx: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ebox&searchon=names&suite=hardy&section=all
[10:39] <IdentityX> No.
[10:39] <IdentityX> I'm using wirelss btw
[10:40] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: the only thing I can think of is this:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/81
[10:40] <Oprtz> how to fix " initframs " problem of disk ?
[10:40] <IdentityX> eth1 is a wireless USB adapter
[10:40] <nesp> IdentityX: how about eth0?
[10:40] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, ok.. I think mplayer plugin should be able to
[10:40] <IdentityX> I assume my internal ethernet card. But I don't use that anyway.
[10:40] <akatsuki>  hello, i connect my laptop to an external monitor... using vga.. and ubuntu didnt load! anyone know how can i fix this
[10:40] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: yeah, try mplayer first :)
[10:41] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, but I need a newer version than is available for gutsy
[10:41] <DistroJockey> lesshaste: maybe in backports?
[10:41] <lesshaste> DistroJockey, maybe :0
[10:41] <lesshaste> :)
[10:41] <DistroJockey> :)
[10:42] <nesp> IdentityX: ow, i forgot you where using eth1.. try adding "mtu <size>" under the "iface eth1 inet static"
[10:42] <zero> hello
[10:42] <zero> i need some  help
[10:42] <maek> zero shoot
[10:42] <komachat> Hi all , [ Error writing /var/log/apache2/error.log: No such file or directory ] , Shall I create the directory and try again? I would of thought that it would of made all the files and folders when i installed it though ?
[10:42] <zero> maek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62492/
[10:43] <zero> i get this error when i log in
[10:43] <nesp> IdentityX: at least that's where the manual says it should go :)
[10:43] <maek> Komachat make sure apache has administrative access
[10:43] <IdentityX> nesp: There is no iface static entry for eth1, or eth0 for that matter.
[10:44] <zero> any ideas what might need done so i can fix this?
[10:44] <IdentityX> Just "auto lo <newline> iface lo inet loopback". Nothing else
[10:44] <komachat> maek: then ?
[10:44] <nesp> IdentityX: ow, then i think you're using Network manager to configure your network card..
[10:44] <komachat> maek : ls: /var/log/apache2/error.log: No such file or directory
[10:44] <nesp> i don't know how to set the mtu in Network manager
[10:44] <edp> mtu?
[10:44] <maek> zero it sounds like you don't own your own home directory
[10:45] <nesp> I think you'll just need to use /etc/rc.local :)
[10:45] <zero> maek, how do i fix this?
[10:45] <IdentityX> Ah, but Network SEttings does not have an entry for mtu
[10:46] <zero> maek: if it helps, i know my root PW
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> IdentityX: google for the format of /etc/network/interfaces file. It may help
[10:46] <brian> Paavi2_0: Wow. I sent this a minute ago, to MYSELF. Pretty smart, huh. Heres what I TRIED to send YOU >.> "Uh... Whatever Right Click>Make Link does :P I need one of those, and then I put it in /, which I dont have permissions for it says."
[10:46] <maek> does it let you login zero ??
[10:47] <lesshaste> is it possible to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mplayerplug-in/3.50-1ubuntu2 in gutsy?
[10:47] <wers> i want an alternatie to banshee and rhythmbox. what can you recommend other than exaile? :D (not qt apps please :P :D)
[10:47] <zero> maek: i cant login as root, but i can run terminal as root
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> brian: do it at cli with ln -s <file or folder to link to>
[10:47] <zero> maek actual root, not that sudo crap
[10:47] <DistroJockey> brian: check out the manpage for   ln  and use sudo to get permission
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> brian: with sudo
[10:47] <maek> zero you should be login as a user not as root
[10:48] <zero> maek, i can not login as root
[10:48] <zero> anyway, tahts not my issue
[10:48] <komachat> hey /var/log/apache2/ and  /var/log/apache2/error.log not exists .. Shall I create the directory and try again? the file was just blank..
[10:48] <zero> can you help me get it so i own my home directory maek?
[10:48] <DistroJockey> komachat: may aswell, it's only a temp file anyway
[10:48] <nesp> IdentityX: good.. got so used to text.. i forgot the GUI was usually easier :)
[10:48] <maek> komachat, Apache cannot see those files if it doesn't have administrative access
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> zero: sudo chown<username>  /home/<username>
[10:49] <komachat> thanks maek
[10:49] <brian> ActionParsnip and DistroJockey: Do the what to the who with the sandwich? :( I really have no idea what you guys said... I've gotten the basics of USING Ubuntu down, but anything terminal(Or really, outside firefox and the desktop), I know nothing about.
[10:49] <zero> thanks ActionParsnip
[10:49] <Paavi2_0> brian: "gksu nautilus" will give you the power to do so...i think
[10:49] <zero> ActionParsnip, now the issue is fixed?
[10:50] <IdentityX> nesp: Easier, but lacking in features :(. I'm a real beginner at Linux. If I just describe eth1 as static, do I have to declare the IPs or can I just put mtu 1400 as the only option and use roaming still?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> zero: you may have achived the issue by running stuff as root. It can damage ownerships. I'd log on as user and run as sudo when you need admin (rare) also running apps as admin is a huge security risk
[10:50] <DistroJockey> brian: man ln   (in a terminal tells you what ln does.  sudo gives root access)
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> brian: wassup?
[10:51] <maek> komachat, try putting "sudo" at the start of the apache commands
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> brian: in konsole type: cd /
[10:51] <sen_> Can I install ubuntu on extend partion (not primary partition)
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> brian: do you know where the app or folder is located?
[10:51] <nesp> IdentityX: the manual says the mtu is for static only..
[10:51] <IdentityX> Yeah, I know...
[10:52] <IdentityX> Ah!
[10:52] <zero> ActionParsnip, same problem
[10:52] <zero> that command didnt fix it
[10:52] <DistroJockey> sen_: yes, you can install it on a logical partition inside the extended partition
[10:52] <IdentityX> What about
[10:52] <brian> ActionParsnip: Ok, did that, and yup, its /home/username/KDX/Server/KDXServer.lexe (Yes, username is my username :)
[10:53] <wers> is it just my computer or is exaile really faster than rhythmbox?
[10:53] <maek> zero what did you type in ??
[10:53] <IdentityX> iface eth1 inet loopback <newline> post-up ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400
[10:53] <zero> sudo chown zero /home/zero
[10:53] <IdentityX> Or is sudo still required?
[10:54] <maek> did it prompt for a password ??
[10:54] <maek> zewro
[10:54] <maek> zero
[10:54] <zero> maek, yeah it did
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> brian: then use ln -s <that stuff you typed>
[10:54] <nesp> sudo's still required
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> brian: that will create a shortcut to the folder Server
[10:55] <IdentityX> ok.
[10:55] <nesp> i mean.. to edit the interfaces file
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> brian: if you use tab you can autocomplete ;)
[10:55] <IdentityX> oh, but when I put that line in.
[10:55] <akatsuki> hi i just install thunar
[10:55] <IdentityX> iface eth1 inet loopback <newline> post-up ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400
[10:55] <IdentityX> Without sudo
[10:55] <akatsuki> but i cant log in with thunar
[10:55] <nesp> no need
[10:55] <IdentityX> Ok
[10:55] <IdentityX> I'll give that a try.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> brian: ln means link and -s makes it symbolic
[10:56] <zero> maek, can you help me?
[10:56] <brian> ActionParsnip: Ah, ok :) Whats symbolic mean?
[10:56] <yao_ziyuan> how do i disable remote login?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> brian: if you cd into a symbolic folder you will jump to the place it points
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> brian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link
[10:57] <maek> zero ... im seeing if I can .... if any of you other users have any ideas then post it
[10:57] <TamilMinnal> i
[10:57] <lesshaste> is it possible to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mplayerplug-in/3.50-1ubuntu2 in gutsy?
[10:57] <Paavi2_0> brian: symbolic link is almost like shortcut in windows-world
[10:57] <brian> ActionParsnip: Ah, ok. So basically the same as a windows shortcut? I know what it does, just never associated that word with it
[10:57] <brian> Paavi2_0: Ah, ok, thanks :D
[10:58] <nesp> IdentityX: for more info.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine
[10:58] <maek> zero go to your home directory and hit CTRL - H
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> brian: there are hard links too but symlink does most jobs
[10:58] <brian> DistroJockey: Thanks for that :D Would have done the trick(Had ActionParsnip not guided me through it :)
[10:59] <arvind_khadri> hi cant install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:59] <DistroJockey> brian: np, I like to help people help themselves, unless they are really stuck :)
[10:59] <AliRezaTaleghani> hello room,  i have an other simple problem, with pidgin,  i don't know why no buddy can see the my status photo??
[10:59] <zero> maek ok im there
[10:59] <lesshaste> arvind_khadri, what's the problem?
[10:59] <maek> zero then right click on the .dmrc file and select properties then permissions ... make sure its read and write for all of them
[11:00] <arvind_khadri> lesshaste, it says the package has been moved
[11:00] <lesshaste> oh
[11:00] <maek> zero sorry make sure that the permissions are set only for the owner and not the group or others
[11:00] <maek> zero Owner zero = read and write
[11:01] <maek> then hit OK zero
[11:01] <zero> maek, its already set to taht
[11:01] <s_> elo
[11:01] <maek> what are you logged in as zero ... zero or root ??
[11:01] <s_> anybody in?
[11:01] <cptcirss> hey i can not compile using make on ubuntu 7.01
[11:02] <zero> zero, maek, i cant login as root
[11:02] <maek> only as zero ??
[11:02] <zero> maek,  yea
[11:02] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, yes u can and its 7.10
[11:03] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss,wats the error u r getting
[11:03] <cptcirss> i am compiling it using sudo
[11:03] <maek> have you ever logged in as root graphically zero ??
[11:03] <s_> when downloading smthng,WXDOWNLOAD-FAST shuts itself and stops downloading.so any settings problem?
[11:04] <zero> maek, ubuntu wont let you login graphically as root
[11:04] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, u need to configure first
[11:04] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, u there??
[11:04] <cptcirss> :-) i am doing that
[11:05] <maek> sudo chown 644 ~/.dmrc   <<---- Zero try that command
[11:05] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, did u get any error messages while configuring???
[11:06] <xx0xx> can anyone help me with dns?
[11:06] <cptcirss> chmode: changing permissinon of  './snddevices': operation not permitted
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> xx0xx: wassup?
[11:06] <zero> maek, ok i used the command, entered my PW and then nothing, it just went back to command line,
[11:06] <s_> when downloading smthng,WXDOWNLOAD-FAST shuts itself and stops downloading.so any settings problem?
[11:06] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, use sudo
[11:07] <xx0xx> ActionParsnip i am newbie with setting up dns
[11:07] <xx0xx> name server
[11:07] <zero> i think i gotta reboot for it to take effect, yea?
[11:07] <cptcirss> this was after using sudo
[11:08] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, are you you the only user of the system
[11:08] <maek> zero this thread might give you some ideas  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371052
[11:08] <xx0xx> ERGH no one here to help me
[11:08] <cptcirss> yap arvind
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> xx0xx:  I said wassup.
[11:08] <zero> maek thanks
[11:08] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, and look whether whatever permissions you are changing for the file belongs to u only
[11:09] <maek> np zero
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> xx0xx: what is your issue with DNS?
[11:09] <cptcirss> no files are in root permission and i want them to be executable
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> cptcirss: chmod +x <file>
[11:10] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, do u have root powers??
[11:11] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, chmod -u +x <file>
[11:12] <cptcirss> yap arvind
[11:12] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, i guess u need to be sudo for tat
[11:12] <cptcirss> yap
[11:12] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, so were u able to do it??
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> arvind_khadri: if you are the owner of the file than no
[11:12] <lesshaste> is it possible to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mplayerplug-in/3.50-1ubuntu2 in gutsy?
[11:12] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, yeah i know,but he isnt the owner :)
[11:12] <the_alamo> is there some sort of howto for installing pulseaudio 0.9.10?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mplayerplug-in
[11:13] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, that's 3.40
[11:13] <cptcirss> i get this
[11:13] <cptcirss> criss@rocker:/windows/Audio/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3$ make
[11:13] <cptcirss> if [ ! -d include/sound -a ! -L include/sound ]; then \
[11:13] <cptcirss>           ln -sf ../alsa-kernel/include include/sound ; \
[11:13] <cptcirss>         fi
[11:13] <cptcirss> ln: creating symbolic link `include/sound' to `../alsa-kernel/include': Operation not permitted
[11:13] <FloodBot3> cptcirss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <cptcirss> make: *** [include/sound/version.h] Error 1
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> !paste | cptcirss
[11:13] <ubotu> cptcirss: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:13] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, which doesn't support the mime type application/x-ms-wmp it seems
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: get win32codecs
[11:14] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, I have that... you can check by doing about:plugins
[11:14] <xx0xx> ActionParsnip any idea?
[11:14] <xx0xx> about dns?
[11:14] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, i cant install flash non free ones...says package moved
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> xx0xx: you havent stated any issues?
[11:15] <apoorv> hello guys, i have this sound card "Yamaha", but i am having no sound. in dmesg this is the error i am getting " ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:02:02.0 disabled" "Yamaha DS-1 PCI: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -16". GUYS HELP :'(
[11:15] <xx0xx> i did
[11:15] <xx0xx> but everyone like to ignore it
[11:15] <xx0xx> i dont know how to setup dns(name server ie. ns.something.com)
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> xx0xx: I just scrolled up and cant see any text
[11:15] <apoorv> I have compiled yamaha firmware, have alsa-tools, have compiled alsa from alsa website, and have tried changing kernels.
[11:16] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, video/x-ms-wmp is there but not the mime type I need
[11:16] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, any work around??
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: have you googled any?
[11:16] <xx0xx> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems,
[11:16] <apoorv> Yes , for last three days.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> arvind_khadri: chown?
[11:16] <cptcirss> well how to paste in paste bin
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, nope :) or the missing flash non free plugins
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> cptcirss: put tecxt in the pastebin and hit paste, then look at the address bar and paste the url in here
[11:18] <apoorv> ActionParsnip: I think i am having acpi related prblem  "ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:02:02.0 disabled" << In dmesg
[11:18] <smithey93> how can i partision a drive in ubuntu?
[11:18] <arvind_khadri> smithey93, use gparted
[11:18] <smithey93> arvind_khadri: is it allready installed?
[11:19] <the_alamo> has anyone installed pulseaudio 0.9.10?  how did you do it?
[11:19] <alitis4> before i remove some modules, my ubuntu, supports HT, now which i remove them, at System Monitor, i see only 1 core
[11:19] <alitis4> how i can fix this
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: can we have an output of lspci please
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> smithey93, no u need to get it...sudo apt-get install gparted
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> !paste | apoorv
[11:19] <ubotu> apoorv: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:19] <smithey93> avind_khadri: im installing it now thanks, is it command line or gui
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, :(( how to find the flash plugin non free
[11:19] <apoorv> ActionParsnip, i am doing that
[11:20] <arvind_khadri> smithey93, its a GUI one
[11:20] <smithey93> avind_khadri: dont matter its working :) ty
[11:20] <cptcirss> criss@rocker:/windows/Audio/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3$ make
[11:20] <cptcirss>  if [ ! -d include/sound -a ! -L include/sound ]; then
[11:20] <cptcirss>            ln -sf ../alsa-kernel/include include/sound ;
[11:20] <cptcirss>        fi ln: creating symbolic link `include/sound' to `../alsa-kernel/include': Operation not permitted
[11:20] <cptcirss>  make: *** [include/sound/version.h] Error 1
[11:20] <FloodBot3> cptcirss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:20] <smithey93> can i partision my external drive with it? like my external harddrive
[11:20] <arvind_khadri> smithey93 congrats
[11:20] <arvind_khadri> smithey93 yeah you can
[11:21] <smithey93> thanks :-) its "scanning for drives"
[11:21] <arvind_khadri> smithey93, i think so,not sure,u can always google :)
[11:21] <apoorv> ActionParsnip : lspci :- http://pastebin.com/mb94a682
[11:21] <smithey93> google is a good tool :D
[11:21] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, use paste to give us the URL...
[11:22] <Co_Rush> SEMARANG
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: this may help some http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437526
[11:22] <icesword> lol
[11:23] <icesword> hi,channel
[11:23] <cptcirss> got it http://pastebin.com/m4d083e5b
[11:24] <apoorv> ActionParsnip, i dont think that will help. As when i do aplay -l this is what i get "aplay: device_list:207: no soundcards found..."
[11:24] <cptcirss> well question stays there i cant compile with sudo ./configure; make
[11:24] <cptcirss> got it http://pastebin.com/m4d083e5b
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: then your sound card is not properly configured
[11:25] <icesword> cptcirss, sudo make & make install
[11:26] <apoorv> Then how can i do that, also is this : " Yamaha DS-1 PCI: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -16" normal  ?
[11:26] <apoorv> ActionParsnip: Then how can i do that, also is this : " Yamaha DS-1 PCI: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -16" normal  ?
[11:26] <cptcirss> well i am doing so and i am getting this problem  http://pastebin.com/m4d083e5b
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: get googling my lad :). I'll give you a hand
[11:27] <icesword> cptcirss, sudo make install
[11:27] <apoorv> OK dude, :)
[11:28] <row_> I used wvdial to setup a ppp session via my nokia n95, works fine yet kde is not seeing it I presume because wvdial set up ppp interface, what is best way to get it to show
[11:28] <row_> so konq etc works
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: you need to add some modules dude
[11:28] <row_> internet def works however tested on irssi/aptitude
[11:28] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, do u have build-essential???
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: open your /etc/modules file
[11:28] <apoorv> well i have all the modules for "ymfpci" loaded, that shows in lsmod, shall i give you its output (pastebin) ?
[11:28] <jaffarkelshac> when i start my computer, compiz.real takes up all my system resources for a long time. why is that and will uninstalling compiz fusion fixed this.
[11:28] <cptcirss> yap
[11:29] <apoorv> OK, editing /etc/modules
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: does it have snd-ymfpci= Yamaha DS1/DS1E in it?
[11:29] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, wat are you trying to install???
[11:29] <apoorv> no
[11:29] <row_> aj
[11:29] <row_> disable network manager
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: this is why. Its also in that link i sent you
[11:29] <xtreme> I am trying to install https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat83-inst.html (ATI Proprietary Linux Installer) and its says "Enter the command  ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run to launch the ATI Proprietary Linux driver installer." but when I enter ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run I get the messge "Command not found". Why?
[11:30] <apoorv> does it have to be exactly like this "snd-ymfpci= Yamaha DS1/DS1E"
[11:30] <apoorv> ?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: you'll need gksudo or kdesu to edit it
[11:30] <icesword> xtreme, ./
[11:30] <cptcirss> even this is also about sound on amd ad1981 ubuntu 7.10
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> apoorv: yes
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, hey you need to type sudo make not jus make!!!!
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> apoorv:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards
[11:30] <icesword> sudo make love
[11:30] <icesword> lol
[11:30] <cptcirss> i tried guys
[11:30] <apoorv> OK dude i will follow that link's instruction, i will be back after doing that .
[11:30] <Intertricity> Hey, I'm considering ubuntu server install for an old 256mb 800mhz machine
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> icesword, :)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> icesword: except for gui apps
[11:30] <Intertricity> do you think it will run pretty zippy on that or no?
[11:31] <icesword> lol
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Intertricity: should be fine
[11:31] <GOfree> Hi, I have a quick question...
[11:31] <DistroJockey> jaffarkelshac: Not sure why, but try going to  System - Preferences - Appearance - Visual Effects  and change it to None
[11:31] <Intertricity> Cool, I want to use it as a remote dev environment
[11:31] <Intertricity> for programming in C and python
[11:31] <arvind_khadri> cptcirss, then paste the output of sudo ./configure use paste!!!
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Intertricity: yeah absolutely
[11:32] <Intertricity> oah excellent x3! Thanks :)
[11:32] <icesword> cptcirss, what are trying to compile
[11:32] <Intertricity> I've been wanting to tinker around in the console and learn the guts for a while
[11:32] <icesword> you
[11:32] <xtreme> when I use ./ I get "the file or folder does not exists", but I can see it when I type ls and its correct name
[11:33] <icesword> xtreme, chmod +x file
[11:33] <jaffarkelshac> DistroJockey, it was already on off, just turned it back on.
[11:33] <cptcirss> i get this after sudo ./configure http://pastebin.com/d5fb5a5b2
[11:33] <DistroJockey> jaffarkelshac: oh, did that help?
[11:33] <forensti_> i have a pci tv card, (philips alpha) but that dont work with linux i think. can any one give advice to which new tv card should i buy that will work and is easily available (welknown)?
[11:33] <cptcirss> iceword alsa driver
[11:34] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> NEVER do your configure with sudo
[11:34] <GOfree> With the command "sudo apt-get update", I get the messages: "could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open" and "could not open lock file /var.../lock". Anyone?
[11:34] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> do "sudo make clean",
[11:34] <cptcirss> ok
[11:35] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> then re-run the configure script WITHOUT sudo
[11:35] <cptcirss> ok i did it
[11:35] <GOfree> what is a lock file?
[11:35] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: do you happen to have a copy of update-manager, aptitude or synaptic running?
[11:35] <Co_KEREN_OK> SEMARANG
[11:36] <icesword> ./configure --verbose,if it is,see ./configure --help
[11:36] <cptcirss> still same problems
[11:36] <Kenichiro> #Feel
[11:37] <icesword> cptcirss, ./configure --help
[11:37] <DistroJockey> cptcirss: did you follow the read.me that came with the download?
[11:37] <tomly> hi
[11:37] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: No, all front ends are closed.
 i will restart and see if that works. :)
[11:37] <cptcirss> i am trying to install the alsa drivers came with my mother Bord cd
[11:38] <forensti_> i have a pci tv card, (philips alpha) but that dont work with linux i think. can any one give advice to which new tv card should i buy that will work and is easily available (welknown)?
[11:38] <cptcirss> and i am doing exactly as told
[11:39] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> as far as i see, the configuration is OK, so go to the 'make' step
[11:39] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: and no other processes doing deb-stuff are running?
[11:39] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> this was just the sudo , if the make clean xorked, there should be no problème
[11:39] <LeGreffi3R> problem
[11:39] <LeGreffi3R> excuse my english :)
[11:40] <GOfree> Paavi2_0:Not that I know of. How can I make sure?
[11:40] <cptcirss> i get this after make http://pastebin.com/m4d083e5b
[11:41] <apoorv> ActionParsnit: that did not help :(
[11:41] <|ismael|> i was doing a work in aboword and to change the letter it delete.i can recovery it?sorry for my english...
[11:41] <|ismael|> abiword
[11:41] <Co_KEREN_OK> SURABAYA
[11:41] <icesword> cptcirss, SUDO!!!
[11:41] <apoorv> ActionParsnip: that did not help :(
[11:41] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> you're on a FAT/NTFS partition?
[11:41] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: run: top
[11:41] <cptcirss> fat
[11:42] <cptcirss> fat32
[11:42] <icesword> ?
[11:42] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> this won't work (you can't make sym-links)
[11:42] <DistroJockey> cptcirss: can you even cd to  ../alsa-kernel/include  from where you are?
[11:42] <LeGreffi3R> cptcirss> do this on a regular linux partition.
[11:42] <cptcirss> k
[11:44] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Hmmm...in the terminal?!  I get: "run: command not found"
[11:44] <forensti___> i have a pci tv card, (philips alpha) but that dont work with linux i think. can any one give advice to which new tv card should i buy that will work and is easily available (welknown)?
[11:44] <forensti___> what link should i click? if i use cable tv. i only need to see DVB-C devices (Digital Cable TV)
[11:44] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: type "top"
[11:44] <icesword> forensti_, follow the instrutions of it?
[11:44] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: sorry, i wasn't being very clear
[11:44] <Duskin> test
[11:45] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Ok...that's cool. What should I look for?
[11:46] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: apt-cache, apt-get, synaptic, aptitude, update-manager, debconf...
[11:46] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: if you don
[11:47] <raju>  how i knew my SDcard is connected with my laptop
[11:47] <Paavi2_0> ouch, GOfree, if you do not find those, then try using apt-get again
[11:48] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Nope. None of those.
[11:48] <cptcirss> this is i get when i do sudo make on a linux partition http://pastebin.com/d262772cf
[11:48] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: I am getting a user "haldaemo" which seems strange.
[11:49] <GOfree> [retrying apt-get]
[11:49] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: it's not strange
[11:50] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: without haldaemo your devices wouldn't co-operate with the kernel :)
[11:50] <pzn> Hi, I need some help with ubuntu wireless. it is configured to "roaming" (i dont know what it is). If I click on network icon (near to clock), fill in ssid and personal wpa, it connects ok. at next reboot I have to click icon and fill them again... how to save them for home and work networks? I'd like them to auto-connect
[11:50] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Oh, okay. That's interesting.
[11:51] <johansja> i know it is weird to ask this question here. But is there any minime version for ubuntu? I mean something like pclinuxos minime 2008.
[11:51] <apoorv> Hello guys, i am having issue with one of the PCI card on my desktop.  Iget this error in my dmesg "ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:02:02.0 disabled Yamaha DS-1" "PCI: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -16", and when i do aplay -l i get this "aplay: device_list:207: no soundcards found...". I have modules for yamaha "snd-ymfpci" loaded. Tried compiling latest alsa from their website.
[11:51] <GOfree> Bingo! I got the apt-get update.
[11:51] <GOfree> ...or 99%?!
[11:51] <DistroJockey> pzn: do you get an area that has a strength of connection bar?
[11:52] <cptcirss> sound dies on amd ad1981A after a adjust volume
[11:52] <unop__> cptcirss, run this command and try again.  sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:52] <Paavi2_0> johansja: you mean a minimalist installation with a lightweight window manager? xubuntu?
[11:53] <GOfree> "Could not connect to... connection timed out..." Command line is waiting...
[11:53] <pzn> DistroJockey: yes, after connecting it has strength. before connecting it is a network icon that I click to fill in ssid/wpa
[11:54] <johansja> Paavi2_0: i mean ubuntu that comes with no pre-installed program but just the core gnome and others.
[11:54] <GOfree> hmm...
[11:54] <DistroJockey> pzn: I read somewhere that clicking on the signal strength bar and then entering the details works better. (Hope that helps, never tried or tested.)
[11:54] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Things are still acting weird.
[11:55] <Paavi2_0> GOfree: reboot, that's my standard solution :)
[11:55] <linduxed> if ive added "ndiswrapper" to the end of /etc/modules, how do i prevent the "iwl4965", "iwlwifi_mac80211" and "cfg80211" to load? (theyre not in /etc/modules)
[11:55] <GOfree> Paavi2_0: Ok. Well thanks, Paavi2_0.
[11:55] <Paavi2_0> johansja: that would contradict the basic idea of ubuntu
[11:56] <GOfree> That "top" command is great.
[11:56] <GOfree> Gotta run.
[11:56] <GOfree> Leaving
[11:56] <GOfree> bye
[11:56] <fsckr> johansja, I may be mistaken since I haven't run ubuntu for a bit but i think the ubuntu server .iso you can install what you want.
[11:56] <unop__> linduxed, add them in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:57] <johansja> Paavi2_0: what do you mean?
[11:57] <unop__> linduxed, also make sure they aren't in any other file in /etc/modprobe.d .. comment them out if they are
[11:58] <xtreme> cant start ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run. ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run notworking,  sudo sh  ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run notworking and I have ight permission
[11:58] <xtreme> right
[11:58] <xtreme> ./ is not working
[11:58] <cptcirss> done
[11:58] <icesword> xtreme, chmod +x file?this one,tried yet
[11:59] <cptcirss> unop_ now cant change the volume :-)
[11:59] <unop__> cptcirss, that's beyond me really, sorry, i just helped you with the make problem you had there :)
[12:00] <xtreme> why cant I start the installhttps://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat83-inst.html
[12:00] <LetsGo67> My computer is all messed up.  It won't roam wireless Internet automatically because it claims to have "manual configuration settings".  Can someone help me please?
[12:00] <cptcirss> did we re installed it with the linux hederes or ..
[12:01] <xtreme> icesword, what do you meen? chmod +x  ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run. Don't understand
[12:01] <xtreme> what is x?
[12:01] <icesword> xtreme, yaaa,run that command
[12:01] <DistroJockey> xtreme: type:  man chmod   in a terminal
[12:01] <icesword> xtreme, man chmod
[12:01] <LetsGo67> My computer is all messed up.  It won't roam wireless Internet automatically because it claims to have "manual configuration settings".  Can someone help me please?
[12:02] <LeGreffi3R> xtreme> x is the name of the bit that tells the system this file should act like a .exe (for a file)
[12:02] <Coggz> where do i add lines to rc.local? before anything
[12:03] <icesword> /etc/init/
[12:03] <cptcirss> hey sound dies again when i change the volume with alsa mixer gui
[12:03] <Coggz> no i mean in the file itself, is there any where that i need to put it?
[12:04] <Kommwths> hello guys can someone help me to instal audio codex for VLC media player?
[12:04] <lwizardl> how do i enable stereo sound on a nforce2 board?
[12:04] <pajamian> Coggz: before the "exit 0" line
[12:04] <Kenichiro> Can Any One Help Me using irc bouncer on shell ?
[12:05] <humbolto> is there a top for hdd access? where I can see which app is causing all this HDD IO?
[12:05] <Coggz> ?? it says exit 3
[12:05] <pajamian> Coggz: ok, before that line
[12:05] <Coggz> but thee
[12:05] <Coggz> there is two
[12:05] <pajamian> Coggz: the default script is empty with an exit 0 at the end
[12:05] <pajamian> Coggz: so if there's something else it has been altered already.
[12:07] <Coggz> hmm... i have never atered ithttp://pastebin.com/m65e3a031
[12:07] <Kommwths> hello guys can someone help me to instal audio codex for VLC media player?
[12:07] <Coggz> oops, http://pastebin.com/m65e3a031
[12:07] <Adantan_Alex> hi
[12:07] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[12:07] <lwizardl> linux is reporting that I have 2 sound cards that work as a pair and I'm only getting right speaker working
[12:08] <pzn> DistroJockey: ok, tried some options... now will have to reboot to test them
[12:08] <pajamian> Coggz: that's not rc.local
[12:08] <Coggz> really?
[12:08] <gatestone> Do the kernel and user processes have distinct virtual addresses? Two user processes have the same virtual addresses anyway (from 0x0 an up)?
[12:09] <pajamian> Coggz: nope. that's the script that rc.local is run from.
[12:09] <Adantan_Alex> hmmmm
[12:09] <gatestone> What virtual addresses does the kernel see? 0x0 up or something else?
[12:09] <johansja> can i choose what program to be installed in ubuntu when I am installing?
[12:09] <Coggz> aha, i found the real one now...
[12:09] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[12:10] <Coggz> how do i get the system to reload that file?
[12:10] <hikejinx> Kommwths: what are you trying to install? I think you just copy it to /usr/lib/vlc/codec
[12:11] <DistroJockey> johansja: that would involve editing the install files. Maybe remastersys is worth looking at?
[12:11] <pajamian> Coggz: it runs that file at boot time.
[12:11] <Kommwths> hikejinx i just dont know where to find the codecs
[12:11] <hikejinx> which codec Kommwths
[12:11] <Kommwths> dunno thats what am trying to find what shall i use ;p
[12:12] <elusif> i plan to put my first linux installation on a western digital raptor 150g 10,000 rpm hdd - is there any reason i shouldn't do this?
[12:12] <hikejinx> Kommwths: what type of file are you trying to play. what is the filename?
[12:12] <Kommwths> its a dvd
[12:12] <Kommwths> i have image but no sound
[12:12] <Frogzoo> elusif: just be sure to make a separate /home partition, makes reinstalls so much easier
[12:12] <Adantan_Alex> !hardware kommwths
[12:13] <Adantan_Alex> !hardware | kommwths
[12:13] <ubotu> kommwths: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[12:13] <elusif> frogzoo - how do i do this?
[12:13] <hikejinx> !codecs
[12:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:13] <Coggz> kk, pajamian thanks for the help,
[12:13] <pajamian> Coggz: yw
[12:13] <Frogzoo> elusif: there's a manual partitioning option
[12:14] <hikejinx> !restricted | Kommwths
[12:14] <ubotu> Kommwths: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:14] <Kommwths> ill give it a try
[12:15] <hikejinx> Kommwths: it should get you started. I usually just install ubuntu-restricted-extras and get everything I need
[12:15] <Kommwths> yeh
[12:15] <DistroJockey> elusif: can't see why there would be any problem (btw, that'll fly :) )
[12:15] <Kommwths> ill try it
[12:16] <elusif> frogzoo - ty, how large should i make this /home partition?
[12:16] <elusif> ya that's why i'm buying it distrojockey :)
[12:16] <DistroJockey> elusif: :)
[12:16] <pajamian> Kommwths: ubuntu-restricted-extras like hikejinx said, plus w32codecs from medibuntu (and of course libdvdcss2 for dvds)
[12:17] <elusif> i have a regular hdd now vista is on and i need it for warcraft, i don't want to delete the vista i have until i can run warcraft on ubuntu properly :)
[12:17] <Duskin> anyone know of a program that works like speedfan, basically monitoring pc temps?
[12:17] <luke> Duskin: gkrellm
[12:17] <elusif> i'm gonna get a second raptor for a fresh vista install for some games, and use this hdd for storage
[12:17] <Duskin> elusif: i play wow on my linux box and it runs great
[12:17] <Kommwths> pajmian downloading them now all
[12:17] <elusif> ya
[12:17] <elusif> so i hear :)
[12:17] <Frogzoo> elusif: I would say, leave 20gig for /, give yourself a 2gig swap partition, and the rest /home
[12:17] <DistroJockey> elusif: always good to make sure you can do what you need :)
[12:17] <Duskin> luke: thx ^^
[12:17] <elusif> which is one reason i'm getting unbuntu
[12:17] <killuats> hi all!
[12:18] <elusif> what is /?
[12:18] <CroX> I just now had a power shutdown and when electricity came back and I booted my computer, Ubuntu goes into "low graphics mode". For some reason it's removed my nvidia card from the "restricted drivers" but neither enabling it again there nor selecting nvidia driver before the boot screen seems to work..
[12:18] <DistroJockey> elusif: the root of everything
[12:18] <elusif> bear in midn the drive is 150g
[12:18] <Duskin> elusif: the newest version of wine runs wow faster then my vista box did
[12:18] <elusif> nice :)
[12:18] <yaselmane> Hi to all
[12:18] <icesword> lol
[12:19] <elusif> ok guys ty, i'll be back when i have my raptor
[12:19] <pajamian> Kommwths: also, if you use the Totem player (the default one) you'll want gstreamer0.10-pitfdll which allows it to read the windows codecs.
[12:19] <elusif> oh and, which version of unbunu should i download?
[12:19] <DistroJockey> elusif: if you can wait 16 days, get Hardy
[12:20] <DistroJockey> elusif: 8.04 that is
[12:20] <Coggz> pajamian: how do i make rc.local active,
[12:20] <pajamian> Coggz: sudo chmod 755 /etc/rc.local
[12:20] <gatestone> How can kernel and user space share memory, if both are running in separate virtual memory spaces? If kernel reads address X, is it its own X or some user process X?
[12:20] <pajamian> Coggz: though it should have that setting already
[12:21] <killuats> how do i fix my screen resolution? my laptop can have 1280x800 screen resolution, but i accidentally change my resolution to 1024x768 using displayconfig-gtk, now i'm try to revert my screen, but there's no 1280x800 on the selection, how do i fix my settings?
[12:21] <Coggz> hmm, does it need to have #!/bin/sh -e uncommented
[12:22] <pajamian> gatestone: I think that's off topic for this channel but it boils down to various run levels in the CPU and how the kernel controls them.
[12:22] <elusif> DistroJockey: why, will updating from 8.03 to hardy be a pain?
[12:22] <DistroJockey> killuats: was there a backup made when you changed? Might be called  /etc/X11/xorg.conf~
[12:22] <elusif> i should have the hdd in about 10day (ordering thursday)
[12:23] <pajamian> Coggz: no, that's supposed to start with a #
[12:23] <Coggz> ok
[12:23] <pajamian> Coggz: just add your line before the exit 0 line
[12:23] <DistroJockey> elusif: from 8.04 beta to release, may have many updates
[12:23] <killuats> DistroJockey: i'll look for a backup.
[12:23] <DistroJockey> elusif: but should work (but I always prefer clean installs)
[12:24] <Duskin> elusif: even if you decide to install 7.10, the updates wont be a pain at all
[12:24] <jimcooncat>  What kind of filesystem could I install that would automatically mirror to another host? I'm familiar with stuff like sshfs.
[12:24] <Alexx> wow
[12:24] <Duskin> elusif: if you are used to windows updates, you'll find updating in linux to be a breath of fresh air
[12:25] <Alexx> lol i see
[12:25] <DistroJockey> jimcooncat: rsync  might be worth a look
[12:25] <jimcooncat> DistroJockey: I'd have to get my users to run rsync after every change, though, right?
[12:26] <DistroJockey> jimcooncat:  not sure on that part of it
[12:26] <Adantan_Alex> hmmmm
[12:26] <pajamian> jimcooncat: you can get them to put it in a cron job
[12:27] <DistroJockey> jimcooncat: rsync + svn  maybe?
[12:27] <jimcooncat> thanks pajamian, not really what I'm looking for though, I need to update realtime
[12:27] <mickpc>
[12:27] <mickpc> #ubuntu-au
[12:27] <criXtiano> hi friends, good morning. Please, what's the difference between "emacs (client)" and "emacs (X11)" ???
[12:28] <pajamian> jimcooncat: then rsync is still the way to go, just set up a script to log into each of the other computers via ssh and run rsync after an update.
[12:28] <jimcooncat> pajamian: I suppose I could have a daemon like monit watch for file changes
[12:30] <elusif> DistroJockey: ok i will wait for 8.04 - but i am install linux this time! :) ty
[12:30] <pajamian> jimcooncat: it would be something like: for x in list of user@hosts; do ssh $x rsync blah blah; done
[12:30] <DistroJockey> elusif: you're welcome. It will be worth the wait :)
[12:31] <elusif> can i format the raptor with windows when i get it and install it? or should i only install the new drive when i'm installing 8.04?
[12:31] <rahaman> #connect
[12:31] <elusif> then just plug in the drive, put in 8.04 cd and restart pc?
[12:32] <DistroJockey> elusif: the installer should do the partitioning right. I suggest disconnecting the Windows drive and installing on the raptor
[12:32] <Smegzor> I have two broken packages and the error is saying its trying to overwrite a png file that is shared by another package.  one of the broken packages is python-launchpad-integration.  Whats the best fix?  I tried reinstalling in synaptic but that didn't work.
[12:32] <pajamian> elusif: make sure that the CMOS settings are set to boot to the CDROM drive
[12:33] <Smegzor> the other broken package is lblpint-bonobo0
[12:33] <DistroJockey> elusif: then after you have installed Ubuntu, you can plug the Windows drive in and tell Grub from the Ubuntu install where to boot Windows from. (nice way to dual boot)
[12:33] <Dr_willis> Smegzor,  ive often delet4ed the file that both are trying to overwrite.. not the best fix i guess.. :)
[12:34] <Dr_willis> had to do that the other day for some silly icon file.
[12:34] <Smegzor> its a png.  I'll try renaming it.
[12:34] <Kommwths> pajamian?
[12:34] <pajamian> Kommwths: yes?
[12:34] <Smegzor> the updater should then be able to do its thing I hope.
[12:35] <Smegzor> does the updater keep a log and whats it called?
[12:36] <Kommwths> pajamian i downloaded and installed them but nothing. anw i tryed to install xine and gssteamer for totem codecs but totem it says " Totem could not play 'dvd:///media/cdrom0'." "There is no plugin to handle this movie."
[12:36] <pajamian> Kommwths: did you install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll?
[12:37] <Kommwths> yeh
[12:37] <pajamian> Kommwths: well, those are all the things I install and rarely if ever have problems.
[12:37] <pajamian> Kommwths: I have to run off for a bit, though, maybe someone else can give you a hand
[12:38] <Kommwths> check this out. when i instal  gstreamer0.10-pitfdll it says :
[12:38] <Kommwths> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll is already the newest version.
[12:38] <Kommwths> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[12:38] <Kommwths>   libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil libplot2c2 vim-gui-common libdv-bin hugin-data blt
[12:38] <Kommwths>   libswscale1d ffmpeg poster libpano12-0 libdjconsole-data psutils tk8.4
[12:38] <Kommwths>   vim-runtime libimlib2 libgdiplus
[12:38] <FloodBot3> Kommwths: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <Kommwths> thall i remove them ?
[12:38] <ghostlines> how do you cancel a irssi transfer ?
[12:41] <the_giver> anyone here know if its possible to use finch in screen.. but in turn also tie in the graphical GUI of pidgin to the finch session running inside of ur screen session (so they are always "insynch" and not so pidging just asks finch for info... )
[12:41] <ricanelite> anyone here uses Suns "Project Looking Glass"
[12:41] <selinuxium> Has anyone here managed to connect to a BorderManager VPN with Ubuntu ?
[12:43] <Dr_willis> ricanelite,  That thing has never been very 'useable' :)
[12:44] <Dr_willis> ricanelite,  more of a test bed for ideas, and showing off things demo.
[12:44] <icesword>  i am using xchat,what is that lags 1.0s mean
[12:44] <icesword> lag 1.0s
[12:44] <Pici> icesword: It means that its taking 1 second for the stuff you type to get to the irc server and vice versa.
[12:44] <ricanelite> i bet
[12:45] <ricanelite> i saw the video for the first time
[12:45] <ricanelite> it looks nice
[12:45] <icesword> Pici, thx,what about yours,mine is so slow
[12:45] <ricanelite> but i know from reading on sites it never works
[12:45] <ricanelite> lol
[12:45] <elusif> pajaman: ty
[12:45] <Pici> icesword: I'm not using xchat, and mine is less than a second currently.  It doesnt show it if its that low on this client.
[12:45] <icesword> see
[12:46] <Kommwths> damn i wont get my dvd player work anyone can realy help me ?:/ ( i installed all codecs but i cant get any sound while i watch dvds) anyone ?:/
[12:46] <elusif> Distrojockey: after i install ubuntu and i connect the windows drive to tell gurb where to boot windows from, is ubuntu running, or do i restart when connectiing the drive? also, is it easy to find this 'grub'?
[12:46]  * elusif is taking notes
[12:46] <ricanelite> is it possible that either my xbox 360 or ps3 could see the music/pictures/videos that i have in my linux machine
[12:46] <wers> does adblock plus work on firefox 3 beta 5 for you?
[12:47] <wers> doesnt work for me
[12:47] <Dr_willis> elusif,  if the windows drive was not hooked  up while installing linux, you will need to add a entry to the grub menus for it.
[12:47] <tactikalnuke> grub's are elusive little creatures...you can often find them under dark, moist areas though!
[12:47] <pajamian> Kommwths: you added the medibuntu repository and installed libdvdcss2, right?
[12:47] <ricanelite> like for instance in windows when i turned on either my xbox 360 or ps3 windows saw it and from there if I had a video on my computer I could play it on my ps3 or xbox 360
[12:47] <ricanelite> is it possible I could do the same in Ubuntu Linux?
[12:47] <Kommwths> i think not medibuntu repository. how i do that?
[12:47] <DistroJockey> elusif: install ubuntu, shutdown, then reconnect the Windows drive and boot into ubuntu to change grub
[12:48] <pajamian> !medibuntu | Kommwths
[12:48] <ubotu> Kommwths: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:48] <fanch_> fanch
[12:49] <hikejinx> Kommwths: go to system administration software sources and enable all the repos
[12:49] <Dr_willis> wers,  it seems to work here.
[12:50] <wers> Dr_willis, it doesn't work for me. any idea?
[12:50] <wers> java's not installed as well
[12:50] <pajamian> hikejinx: he needs to install the medibuntu repo, it's not in software sources by default.
[12:51] <wers> btw, my "firefox" folder (the one that contains the beta) is located in my user folder
[12:51] <Dr_willis> wers,   Im using hardy, the latest firefox beta, and the 'nightly  testers tools' extension.
[12:51] <wers> ooh. have you tried it on gutsy?
[12:51] <wers> doesn't work for me on gutsy
[12:51] <pajamian> ok, I have to run, goodnight
[12:51] <hikejinx> pajamian: well he can get everything through ubuntu-restricted-extras. that metapackage has everything I think. I never enabled it and have all the codecs, java, etc.;
[12:51] <wers> just saw ads after quite a while and I don't like it. hehe
[12:51] <Dr_willis> wers,  if the extension says it cant work with firefox Version Whatever.. then it wont lets itself load..  thats what the testers tools extension does. lets it load.
[12:52] <pajamian> hikejinx: nope, it doesn't have libdvdcss2 and it doesn't have w32codecs
[12:52] <pajamian> !medibuntu | hikejinx
[12:52] <ubotu> hikejinx: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:52] <hikejinx> w32codecs are not inclued with vlc?
[12:52] <Kommwths> hikejinx ?
[12:52] <Dr_willis> wers,  adblock dosent really block anything by default. You have to add things to block in its list.. OR use that adboock subscription extension
[12:52] <DOOM_NX> does anybody know how to use alsa tables with xmms? i know how to do it with mplayer
[12:52] <Dr_willis> I dident think vlc used the w32codecs.
[12:52] <hikejinx> ok
[12:52] <wers> i subscribe :)
[12:52] <tactikalnuke> recanelite: check out this site for tutorial on UPnP server for ubuntu
[12:52] <kate321> Hello, i would like to use "cat" command in order to merge 2 files ("cat file1.txt file2.txt >> merge.txt"), does cat command will change the files encoding ?
[12:53] <pajamian> nope, but it uses libdvdcss2
[12:53] <hikejinx> if i try to install w32codecs it says its part of another package or something
[12:53] <DOOM_NX> i mean like selecting an alsa device
[12:53] <pajamian> ok, I'm really going now ... goodnight
[12:53] <tactikalnuke> recanelite: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=165288
[12:53] <Kommwths> hikejinx when i do  :  wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O-  and show me the key and then do  "christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$ sudo apt-key add -"   it just stopes there
[12:53] <DistroJockey> elusif, tactikalnuke: this may be worth a look re. grub ;) :  http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[12:54] <DOOM_NX> please if u knew i'
[12:54] <DOOM_NX> d appreciate it a lot
[12:54] <hikejinx> Kommwths: what do you mean stops?
[12:54] <Kommwths> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:/$ sudo apt-key add -
[12:54] <Kommwths>
[12:54] <Kommwths> doesnt do anythink
[12:55] <PyN00b> hey everyone.. i want to know how to specify maximum compression while using tar to have compressed .bz2 file
[12:55] <toma^> Hello. Is it possible to scan and join the available wlans from terminal in ubuntu?
[12:55] <PyN00b> while tar -cvfj archive.tar.bz2 dir1 this works
[12:56] <PyN00b> but what option should i use to specify maximum compression artio..
[12:56] <PyN00b> sorry *ratio
[12:56] <hikejinx> Kommwths: you downloaded the key, right?
[12:56] <Kommwths> yeh
[12:56] <hikejinx> then wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[12:57] <hikejinx> Kommwths: did you type in your password?
[12:57] <Pici> Kommwths: That goes awll on one line, the | is a pipe, it does not mean to separate it into two lines.
[12:57] <Alexx> hi
[12:57] <Kommwths> what u mean pici
[12:57] <woodong50> hi
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Alexx
[12:57] <ubotu> Alexx: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:58] <Alexx> ^^
[12:58] <Adantan_Alex> its really but im testing a few things
[12:58] <DistroJockey> Kommwths: check what  apt-key does using   man apt-key
[12:58] <Pici> Kommwths: I mean dont press enter instead of putting the | in.
[12:58] <DOOM_NX> !hi | Alexx
[12:58] <ubotu> Alexx: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:58] <DOOM_NX> :P
[12:58] <Alexx> hey whats the command to install ubuntu on xubuntu?
[12:59] <Alexx> XD
[12:59] <Dr_willis> Alexx,  install the ubuntu-desktop package
[12:59] <Alexx> yes
[12:59] <PyN00b> hi can anyone help me out with the bz2 problem i mentioned..
[12:59] <Alexx> what problem was that?
[13:00] <Alexx> !fun
[13:00] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[13:00] <Alchera> i have a weird problem .. although on kubuntu i think this would be the same on ubuntu ...
[13:00] <kthakore> #java
[13:01] <PyN00b> i want to know how to specify maximum compression while using tar to have bz2 compressed tar file
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> wassup Alchera?
[13:01] <Kommwths> pici
[13:01] <icesword> man bzip2
[13:01] <Alchera> a third ide drive mounted on /proc/bus/usb
[13:01] <Kommwths> that means i added it? :christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$ sudo apt-key add medibuntu-key.gpg -O-
[13:01] <Kommwths> OK
[13:01] <yaselmane> i can't open my windows partition from grub
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: http://www.edenwaith.com/support/guitar/help/man/bzip2.html
[13:02] <Alchera> i think it's a grub "thing" ...
[13:02] <Alchera> alchera@serenity:~$ cat /boot/grub/device.map contain
[13:02] <Alchera> (hd0)   /dev/hda
[13:02] <Alchera> (hd1)   /dev/hdb
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: -1 fastest -9 best
[13:02] <yaselmane> when i press the windows xp button the grub restart itself
[13:02] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: did Windows shutdown cleanly?
[13:02] <yaselmane> yes
[13:03] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: what are you trying to do to it?
[13:03] <iza> quit
[13:03] <cor4l> Names
[13:03] <yaselmane> i want to use windows
[13:03] <yaselmane> i have played lately with the menu.lst
[13:03] <icesword> yaselmane, go go go
[13:04] <yaselmane> what do you mean with go go go ????
[13:04] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: you can only boot Ubuntu?
[13:04] <Khamael> is there a place where I can download custom load screens?
[13:04] <yaselmane> yes
[13:04] <Khamael> I mean, boot screens
[13:05] <icesword> yaselmane, i am sorrry,but what is wrong with your windows
[13:05] <uChuL> cE_zeyek_pZan
[13:05] <yaselmane> i can't boot to it
[13:05] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: can you pastebin the output of the following command please?    fdisk -l
[13:05] <Pici> Khamael: perhaps http://www.gnome-look.org
[13:05] <Khamael> Pici: I will look. thanks
[13:05] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip: thanks , but i want to compress them as .tar first and then .bz2. like tar -cvfj archive.tar.bz2 dir1 . in this where can i give that option . the point is that i want to compress around 20g data overnight..
[13:05] <giantmidget> hi. i'm trying to burn to a dvd the contents of an old hd, where lots of filenames have funny encodings. is there a quick way to 'clean up' all the filenames?
[13:05] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: sudo fdisk -l   rather
[13:05]  * mauro-bls buenas
[13:05] <yaselmane> Disk /dev/sdc: 2063 MB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[13:05] <yaselmane> 16 heads, 32 sectors/track, 7870 cylinders
[13:05] <yaselmane> Units = cylinders of 512 * 512 = 262144 bytes
[13:05] <yaselmane> Disk identifier: 0x764df73b
[13:05] <yaselmane>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[13:05] <yaselmane> /dev/sdc1               1        7870     2014704    6  FAT16
[13:05] <icesword> yaselmane, after you select windows in grub menu,what happened there
[13:05] <FloodBot3> yaselmane: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <DistroJockey> not here ;P
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: then create the tar of the files then bzip with -9 option
[13:06] <PeterD> Hey, I have a quick question.
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !paste | yaselmane
[13:06] <ubotu> yaselmane: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:06] <yaselmane> the grub menu comes again
[13:07] <PeterD> I'm using an LCD flat screen, and when I boot up Ubuntu, everything is really bright, and text on webpages is extremely hard to read.
[13:07] <PeterD> What do I need to do?
[13:07] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip,: can i give as a single command with tar to have maximum compression..
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: have you googled any for this
[13:08] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip: yes , i got links with questions as is the default compression the best and so on..
[13:09] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip: but couldn't find any answers..
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: tar cf - subdir | gzip --best -c - > archive.tar.gz
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> PyN00b: that took me 4 seconds
[13:09] <elusif> lol tactikalnuke re:grubs
[13:09] <icesword> yaselmane, after you select windows in grub menu,what happened there
[13:10] <yaselmane> the menu start again
[13:10] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip: ya that's correct, but i have a doubt wouldn't piping the data would be problem with large no of files and the data.
[13:11] <elusif> DistroJockey: many thanks, i will install on 24 april when 8.04 is out :)
[13:11] <PyN00b> ActionParsnip: i am not much familier with linux..
[13:11] <icesword> yaselmane, what you mean by start again
[13:11] <Mr_Bad_News> where  do i get vmwares serial # ?
[13:11] <ikonia> Mr_Bad_News: you have to buy it
[13:11] <DistroJockey> elusif: you're welcome. Sounds like the best idea
[13:11] <Mr_Bad_News> i thought it was free
[13:11] <ikonia> Mr_Bad_News: no
[13:12] <ikonia> Mr_Bad_News: http://www.vmware.com
[13:12] <ZeroA4> Mr_Bad_News, VMware has free products like VMware Player and VMware Server the other you have to pay
[13:12] <yaselmane> like when you refresh a page in firefox
[13:12] <lopin> Hey guys...  Trying to get WoW working on a friends comp.  Just getting a white screen after we start it up.  Interface shows up fine.  Any ideas?
[13:12] <PyN00b> Mr_Bad_News: u ca have a free copy at vmware site too.. for everthing we have a standard and a professional edition..
[13:12] <giantmidget> does anyone know a quick way to change the encoding from unicode to utf-8 for a bunch of file names?
[13:12] <rio> giantmidget: utf-8 is an implementation of unicode
[13:12] <Mr_Bad_News> im just trying out vmware server
[13:13] <DistroJockey> Mr_Bad_News: might want to look at  virtualbox  also
[13:13] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, it is free
[13:13] <giantmidget> rio, so what id like to achieve is removing all the characters that show up funny on linux
[13:14] <puplin> virtualbox is great
[13:14] <icesword> yaselmane,could you be more specific,and paste your menu.lst
[13:14] <rio> giantmidget: so whats the encoding now?
[13:14] <yaselmane> ok
[13:14] <giantmidget> i get filenames like $ett?rt?net.doc
[13:14] <rio> iso-8859 maybe?
[13:14] <Mr_Bad_News> then where is the serial # icesword
[13:14] <giantmidget> rio, i dont know :(
[13:14] <yogi> Hi, has anyone installed IBM-symphony on ubuntu 64 bit version
[13:14] <ikonia> Mr_Bad_News go to vmware.com
[13:14] <Mr_Bad_News> im there
[13:14] <icesword> Mr_Bad_News, goto vmware.com.look up
[13:15] <ZeroA4> Mr_Bad_News, VMwaree Server is free DOES not ask for serial
[13:15] <yogi> Hi, has anyone installed IBM-symphony on ubuntu 64 bit version
[13:15] <giantmidget> rio, i dont quite grasp what the problem is, but i have lots of messy characters in the names of files that were created on windows
[13:15] <Mr_Bad_News> tell that to my command line ZeroA4
[13:15] <yaselmane> here you are http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62502/
[13:15] <ZeroA4> Mr_Bad_News, you must be tring a pay version
[13:15] <puplin> ZeroA4: ???
[13:15] <puplin> you have to register to get the free serial
[13:16] <spinnekop> giantmidget, with file -command?
[13:16] <puplin> go to the link they give, register for vmware server, and they give you a serial
[13:16] <puplin> it's free
[13:16] <rio> giantmidget: try `convmv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf8 *.doc`
[13:16] <Mr_Bad_News> vmware-server1.0.5-80187
[13:16] <puplin> but not "free"
[13:16] <ZeroA4> puplin, mine didnot ask for a serial
[13:16] <yogi> Hi, has anyone installed IBM-symphony on ubuntu 64 bit version
[13:16] <daning> can't wait for hardy 8.04
[13:16] <Pici> !repeat | yogi
[13:16] <ubotu> yogi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:16] <puplin> ZeroA4: how long ago did you install?
[13:17] <lopin> !WoW
[13:17] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[13:17] <cyzie> my wireless suddenly not appear in ifconfig, is there any help to troubleshoot it ?
[13:17] <lopin> Thank you, ubotu!
[13:17] <ZeroA4> puplin, dont remember
[13:17] <kate321> Hello, i would like to use "cat" command in order to merge 2 files ("cat file1.txt file2.txt >> merge.txt"), all the files encoding are UTF-8 does cat command will change the files encoding ?
[13:17] <ikonia> kate321: no
[13:18] <Mr_Bad_News> 988AD-YWR2X-2910K-4C29M
[13:18] <Mr_Bad_News> whoops
[13:18] <boubbin> how can i open port 113 ?
[13:18] <icesword> yaselmane,your windows xp should be like this,root (hd0,0）makeactive chainloader +1 boot,one thing ,one line
[13:19] <ikonia> boubbin: there is no firewall enabled in ubuntu by defult
[13:19] <boubbin> so it should be open ?
[13:19] <icesword> yaselmane, first sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:19] <erUSUL> boubbin: yep
[13:19] <ikonia> boubbin: if there is something listening on it, and no firewall between it, yes
[13:19] <boubbin> i installed pidentd but still i dent ~ leading when i connect to irc
[13:20] <abid> hi, can someone help me edit the MBR of the ubuntu
[13:20] <ikonia> abid: what do you want to do
[13:20] <yaselmane> icesword, yes after that ......
[13:20] <icesword> yaselmane,your windows xp should be like this,root (hd0,0）makeactive chainloader +1 boot,one thing ,one line
[13:21] <abid> well the ubuntu is in the frist choice list
[13:21] <abid> but i very new to linux and i dont know anything about it
[13:21] <abid> i still prefer to use XO as i have all the stuff still there
[13:21] <ikonia> abid: ok, so what do you want to do, have XP as the default option ?
[13:21] <abid> yep
[13:21] <FXMaveric> Hello... anyone experience programming a dma-transfer using dma.h header of ubuntu?
[13:21] <erUSUL> boubbin: maybe it is your router the one  doing firewalling
[13:22] <abid> i am starting yop my ubuntu now
[13:22] <yaselmane> icesword , like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62503/
[13:22] <boubbin> erUSUL so when pidentd is installed it is by default listening to 113 ?
[13:23] <abid> ok my ubuntu has already started up
[13:23] <ikonia> abid: very easy, open the /boot/grub/menu.lst file with an editor and use sudo so it's as root permissions. Then scroll down to where you see the boot lines, (ubuntu, ubuntu recovery mode, Windows XP) and count the first one as 0, the next one as 1, next as 2 and so on, then change the default 0 line to default $n where $n is the number of the boot menu you wanted
[13:23] <spinnekop> abid, editing grub ? what youwant to achieve by editing mbr?
[13:23] <spinnekop> woops
[13:24] <erUSUL> boubbin: i guess so... i tried once but used gidentd it worked back in the day
[13:24] <boubbin> k
[13:24] <abid>  sorry
[13:24] <abid> exited by mistake
[13:24] <icesword> yaselmane, like this .http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62504/
[13:25] <erUSUL> boubbin: i tried in quakenet
[13:25] <abid> can i paste my mbr.list or somthing on a paste site?
[13:25] <ikonia> abid: you don't need to paste it
[13:25] <ikonia> abid: just count the boot menu options, starting as 0
[13:25] <abid> can you please repeat the command line
[13:25] <abid> sudo gedit /...?
[13:26] <twager> When I burn mp3 files as .wav using K3B I do not get the track titles just track numbers. Any way I can get titles?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> abid: dont sudo gedit anything
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> gksudo gedit ...
[13:26] <arvind_khadri> abid, please use sudoedit
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> sudo is for cli apps only
[13:26] <abid> o....but what shuld be the file path?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> gksudo gedit
[13:26] <icesword> yaselmane, you got me
[13:26] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, gksu only for GUI apps
[13:26] <yaselmane> yeah
[13:26] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: you still around?
[13:27] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, yeah,got myself worked around
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> arvind_khadri: techically you can use gksudo for both but sudo is ONLY for sudo apps or you can get issues
[13:27] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: how did it work out?
[13:27] <Finnish_> I have 2 broken packages in my system. What should I do with them?
[13:27] <yaselmane> but , why did you put the windows to time , one before ( end debian ....... ) and the other after it ???
[13:27] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, but its preferrabel to use sudoedit
[13:28] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, u mean yesterdays prob???i re-installed
[13:28] <bazhang> Finnish_: try apt-get -f install
[13:28] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: okay so far?
[13:28] <abid> sorry once again
[13:28] <abid> i keep getting DC
[13:28] <arvind_khadri> Finnish_, wats the exact error u are getting
[13:28] <fredsa> hi guys
[13:28] <fredsa> is there a list anywhere that shows what nvidia cards are supported by ubuntu
[13:28] <anton> i cant install my linksys router in my Gutsy.. anyone knows how?
[13:29] <gatestone> how do I compile a module, I have an example in nothing.c and a Makefile, according to http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/drivers_linux?page=0%2C1
[13:29] <bazhang> fredsa: what card you got
[13:29] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, yeah no probs till now...this time i would be careful,i guess the code had something to do with binaries,so dpkg might have broke
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> anton: you dont have to
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> anton: just access it with yur default gateway address
[13:29] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: good to hear; sorry not help more yesterday
[13:29] <gatestone> Should I install kernel-headers? How? Then just make or something more?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> gatestone: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers
[13:30] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hey u helped me a lot,i should be more careful from next time
[13:30] <bazhang> thanks for saying so arvind
[13:30] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, do u know how can i get myself to MOTU,really want to be there
[13:30] <giantmidget> can anyone give me an idea on how to strip from a string all non-alphanumeric characters?
[13:30] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, :)
[13:30] <gatestone> ActionParsnip: Package kernel-headers is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[13:30] <bazhang> #ubuntu-motu they have a channel arvind_khadri
[13:31] <yaselmane> icesword , where are man ??
[13:31] <yaselmane> where are you man
[13:31] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hey yeah tell me about envy
[13:31] <gatestone> Will kernel-headers-386 do?
[13:31] <bazhang> fredsa: you still there?
[13:31] <Gilou> giantmidget> s/[^0-9]//g or something like that in vi / sed..
[13:31] <icesword> yaselmane, what you mean the url?
[13:31] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, are they in freenode itself??
[13:31] <gatestone> ActionParsnip, will kernel-headers-386 do?
[13:31] <icesword> yaselmane, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62504/
[13:31] <anton> how can i access my default gateway address?
[13:31] <giantmidget> Gilou, thanks
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> anton: ifconfig will show you what is picked up by dhcp
[13:32] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: yeah they are; and envy is a super script that installs drivers but often leaves people with problems; definitely not for the faint of heart ;]
[13:32] <yaselmane> icesword , i will try it
[13:32] <anton> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:32] <yaselmane> thanks man
[13:32] <wers> how do i set sonata up?
[13:32] <icesword> yaselmane, reboot and let me know
[13:32] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, how do we use envy,jus asking,i wont try it...i love apt :)
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> anton: np dude
[13:32] <bazhang> gatestone: you trying to compile? did you install build-essential?
[13:33] <wers> I can't browse my music files :(
[13:33] <gatestone> yep!
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> anton: I have a linksys too, you dont need the cd
[13:33] <gatestone> bazhang, I can compile, but there is no kernel-headers in apt
[13:33] <anton> dude i typed ipconfig in my terminal
[13:34] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: you install the deb then launch it and it does the rest
[13:34] <yaselmane> ok , see you
[13:34] <anton> its a bad command , im new in linux :(
[13:34] <shaiguitar> s/ipconfig/ifconfig
[13:34] <bazhang> anton: should be ifconfig
[13:34] <geronimaldo> hehe...
[13:34] <geronimaldo> i do it all the time anton
[13:34] <bazhang> got to go for a bit back soon
[13:34] <gatestone> ActionParsnip, bazhang, there is linux-libc-dev - Linux Kernel Headers for development
[13:35] <anton> thanks dude! :)
[13:35] <fredsa> bazhang: currently, it's an nvidia 7600GS but hardware accelleration is not supported and at least one bug in the driver crashes the server when I perform certain operations in blender
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> gatestone: get em
[13:35] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, ohh wokay
[13:35] <abid>  ok i just pasted my menu list can someone please tell me where it is that i need to make 0,1.2?
[13:35] <DOOM_NX> can i install an rpm package in ubuntu? how?
[13:35] <abid> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:35] <LeGreffi3R> wers> you have to set up an mpd server before :)
[13:35] <LeGreffi3R> wers> sonata is just a client to mpd servers
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: try get the deb versin first
[13:35] <wers> how do I do that?
[13:35] <Exteris> !alien | DOOM_NX
[13:35] <shaiguitar> anyone know why ssh-add won't forward my details more than once? i can log into a remote machine; ssh once with no problem, but the second time doesn't work. when i do ssh-add -l, it doesn't show up (whereas on the first machine it will work)
[13:35] <ubotu> DOOM_NX: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: what you got?
[13:35] <abid> hi,,,,bit of help with editing the menu list please... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:36] <DOOM_NX> there isn't any deb
[13:36] <DOOM_NX> i want xmms mp3pro plugin
[13:36] <LeGreffi3R> wers> first of all, install the mpd package, and tweak /etc/mpd.conf to suit your needs...
[13:36] <fredsa> bazhang: sorry for the pause, I got a phone call
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: sec...
[13:36] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, u can find it in the ugly set
[13:36] <anton> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:D4:40:F1:5F
[13:36] <anton>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[13:36] <anton>           inet6 addr: fe80::213:d4ff:fe40:f15f/64 Scope:Link
[13:36] <anton>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[13:36] <anton>           RX packets:1185277 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[13:36] <anton>           TX packets:1283712 errors:0 dropped:1 overruns:0 carrier:0
[13:36] <FloodBot3> anton: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:36] <anton>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[13:36] <LeGreffi3R> wers> this isn't the easiest to setup
[13:37] <hikejinx> !paste | anton
[13:37] <ubotu> anton: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:37] <wers> wow. sonata's so not user friendly :P hehe
[13:37] <DOOM_NX> arvind_khadri, what do u mean?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: do you want torip to mp3pro? or just play?
[13:37] <LeGreffi3R> wers> sonata is user friendly
[13:37] <DOOM_NX> play
[13:37] <shaiguitar> anyone know why ssh-add won't forward my details more than once? i can log into a remote machine; ssh once with no problem, but the second time doesn't work. when i do ssh-add -l, it doesn't show up (whereas on the first machine it will work)
[13:37] <wers> not when setting it up. hehe
[13:37] <shaiguitar> ping *
[13:37] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, use this sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[13:37] <shaiguitar> ping *
[13:37] <abid> a bit of help please edditing the menu list... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:37] <wers> anyway, i'm still installing mpd :)
[13:38] <cheese> !beryl | sucks
[13:38] <ubotu> sucks: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[13:38] <LeGreffi3R> wers> mpd is just weird to use if you're new to servers-clients softwares
[13:38] <icesword> lol
[13:38] <yaselmane> icesword, back man , it didn't work
[13:38] <wers> so new to it. hehe
[13:38] <DOOM_NX> will i be able to play mp3pro with xmms then?
[13:38] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, yeah u will be
[13:38] <wers> LeGreffi3R, WHAT DO i DO WITH IT NOW?
[13:38] <icesword> yaselmane, what you got after you  choose it?then
[13:38] <wers> oops
[13:38] <wers> sorry!
[13:38] <wers> caps
[13:38] <yaselmane> i got to windows xp
[13:39] <DOOM_NX> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is already the newest version.
[13:39] <LeGreffi3R> wers> there should be a howto on the wiki i guess
[13:39] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, if you arent to able even after this then jus open synaptic and search for gstreamer
[13:39] <DOOM_NX> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is already the newest version. :o
[13:39] <yaselmane> the first , is the same problem and the second took me to the old grub screen ( the black one )
[13:39] <icesword> yaselmane, what you mean,windows cannot boot?
[13:39] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, yeah go to synaptic
[13:39] <anton> where is my default gateway address?
[13:39] <abid> help please i need to edit the menu list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:40] <bottiger> I never understood. when you do "sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin". how do you know where phpmyadmin get's installed?
[13:40] <anton> what is the equivalent of the default gateway address in linux?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: yeah install alien and sudo alien <whatever>.rpm
[13:40] <DOOM_NX> isnt alien dangerous?
[13:40] <geronimaldo> anton; on your routing table it will be route <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:41] <arvind_khadri> abid, wat do u want??
[13:41] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: it's generally not recommended
[13:41] <DOOM_NX> why?
[13:41] <adac> when I do a manual mount and play songs with amarok from the mounted partition...which files (excluded the one from amarok) do log or save this mounting and playing songs stuff? critical files are for example /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog are there any other files that log?
[13:41] <abid> arvind i just pasted my menu list on the site
[13:41] <abid> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:41] <DJones> !rpm | DOOM_NX
[13:41] <ubotu> DOOM_NX: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[13:41] <DOOM_NX> yes i already read that
[13:42] <abid> i need the windows XP to be the default choice
[13:42] <anton> geronimaldo: I cant get it.. where is that?
[13:42] <yaselmane> can i restore from the windows xp cd
[13:42] <Beererde> hi. can i somehow install ALL 32 bit development files on 64 bit ubuntu?
[13:42] <DOOM_NX> why is alien dangerous?
[13:42] <geronimaldo> anton: youŕe installing a linksys router?
[13:42] <anton> yes geronimaldo
[13:42] <Dr_willis> abid,  the grub menu.lst file has a 'default #' for the default selected item. cound the # of entries in your grub and put in the right #.
[13:42] <geronimaldo> wireless?
[13:42] <LeGreffi3R> wers> http://blog.effraie.org/post/2006/11/06/MPD-et-icecast2-Webradio-ou-lecteur-ultime
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: cos the thing is packaged for rpm based systems. Its a conversion which generally isnt liked
[13:43] <anton> yes
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> DOOM_NX: Amarok plays mp3pro
[13:43] <Dr_willis> abid,  grub starts counting at 0 however. :)  so if windows is on the 5th grub line use default 4
[13:43] <Beererde> for example libxcursor-dev for32 bit
[13:43] <wers> wow. thanks LeGreffi3R :)
[13:43] <abid> Doctor i a noob...thie is my first install
[13:43] <hikejinx> it could break a package maybe. I'm thinking a codec or something would not be that big of a deal. and it's alien -i package.rpm if you do use it.
[13:43] <arvind_khadri> DOOM_NX, try installin the bad set,i think tats the one for xmms
[13:43] <abid> i have nvr use linux before
[13:43] <LeGreffi3R> wers> this is french but pretty easy to follow i think
[13:43] <geronimaldo> from the command line. . if you type ifconfig. whatś your ip address?
[13:43] <geronimaldo> sorry.. ifconfig even
[13:44] <LeGreffi3R> wers> you don't have to do the icecast part
[13:44] <arvind_khadri> abid set the default value to 4
[13:44] <Coggz> anyone know how to get a tablet (wacom) working
[13:44] <abid> this i my menu list...i still cant figure which is the actually line to be edited http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62506/
[13:44] <yaselmane> icesword,can i restore the boot of windows from the installation disk
[13:44] <Dr_willis> abid,  time to read a tutorial or 2 i guess. and to edit the grub menu.lst use 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'  edit the file use Control-o to write OUT the changes.
[13:44] <wers> LeGreffi3R, google translate time! hehe
[13:44] <Beererde> something like lib32-dev ?
[13:45] <anton> geronimaldo: inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:45] <Wolfmight> hey. Anyone know how to get the Broadcom 4318 wireless internet working? Does the Hardy Herone Beta resolve this?  I've tried 5 tutorials so far with no luck :-(
[13:45] <arvind_khadri> abid http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62509/ go here i have edited it
[13:45] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: you said windows boots ok?
[13:45] <yaselmane> no
[13:45] <Coggz> Wolfmight: Is that a dell laptop?
[13:45] <yaselmane> it didn't boot
[13:45] <Wolfmight> it's an HP pavilion dv5000
[13:45] <yaselmane> i need windows
[13:45] <Beererde> hi. can i somehow install ALL 32 bit development files on 64 bit ubuntu?
[13:45] <geronimaldo> and you´re connecting through the router that youŕe trying to install??
[13:45] <icesword> yaselmane, ths  iss are you sure your windows is broken
[13:46] <Coggz> Wolfmight: ok, i am here for you... i had the same problem...
[13:46] <Wolfmight> yeah, i've got a wireless 2wire router. works great
[13:46] <yaselmane> i have all my school project in it , and i need to print them for tomorrow
[13:46] <arvind_khadri> abid, i have marked the change with "@@"
[13:46] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: ohh, k, well, the Windows tools  fixmbr and fixboot  may get windows fixed
[13:46] <yaselmane> it's a matter of life or death
[13:46] <icesword> yaselmane, your windows is at c:\?
[13:46] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: but don't rush :)
[13:46] <yaselmane> yeah
[13:46] <anton> the router is not yet connected coz i might think that i will lost my internet connection so right now i connect directly to the modem
[13:47] <Wolfmight> Coggz, did you get yours working?
[13:47] <geronimaldo> ok
[13:47] <anton> geronimaldo: what will i do?
[13:47] <yaselmane> how can i use fixmbr
[13:47] <icesword> yaselmane, tell me what happened after you choose windows at grub menu
[13:47] <geronimaldo> have you installed your wireless card in linux?
[13:47] <arvind_khadri> abid, ???
[13:47] <anton> not yet..
[13:47] <yaselmane> nothing happend
[13:48] <DJones> abid: On line 14 there's a line default 0, the numbering starts at 0, according to the info on grub, I think that number needs changing to the number of your windows entry in grub, remembering that it starts at 0, I think it would be 3 or 4, depending on whether the divider counts as a number as well, BUT before you change it, I'd suggest getting somebody more experieced with grub to check and confirm
[13:48] <bottiger> I have an ubuntu server. but when I try to install emacs it want's to install the gtk-version with all it's dependencies :/
[13:48] <geronimaldo> thatś the first thing you need to do, other wise it can´t connect to your router
[13:48] <icesword> yaselmane, a black screen or that fout line ?or something else
[13:48] <anton> what will i do? do you think i will try to connect it right now 1st?
[13:48] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: Ubuntu boots?
[13:48] <anton> ok thanks :) brb
[13:48] <Wolfmight> is there a tutorial that works for the HP Pavilion dv5000 Broadcom 4318 wifi ?
[13:48] <yaselmane> yeah , a black screen and the grub menu come back
[13:48] <DJones> abid: if you change it and its wrong, you might not be able to get back into ubuntu easily to fix it
[13:48] <icesword> yaselmane, the thing is if you fixmbr ,ubuntu won't boot
[13:49] <yaselmane> yeah , i'm using ubuntu right now
[13:49] <geronimaldo> ok good luck
[13:49] <yaselmane> i don't care about ubuntu
[13:49] <arvind_khadri> DJones, i have done it
[13:49] <yaselmane> i need to make window work
[13:49] <hikejinx> yaselmane: can't you print your homework from ubuntu?
[13:49] <yaselmane> no
 DOOM_NX: Amarok plays mp3pro -> not really, can't decode right
[13:49] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: then you should be able to mount the Windows partition and get stuff from it
[13:49] <yaselmane> i'm using office 2007
[13:49] <arvind_khadri> DJones, it needs to be set to 4
[13:50] <yaselmane> ok , but how
[13:50] <savetheWorld> NOTE:  this channel's dialog is being recorded and published on IRCSEEK
[13:50] <icesword> yaselmane, oaky,fixmbr /device/harddisk 0.and goodbye.use windows install cd ,press R,when it asks
[13:50] <fx|RabBit> does anyonehave a spc 1300nc and if yes how oes it work with ubuntu?
[13:50] <DJones> arvind_khadri: thanks, I wasn't sure what the number needed to be
[13:50] <arvind_khadri> DJones, and yeah divider is also counted :)
[13:50] <Wolfmight> n e 1 know how to get wifi working?
[13:50] <arvind_khadri> DJones, the guy seems to be lost somewhere
[13:50] <Coggz> Wolfmight: This is what u want... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[13:50] <yaselmane> where fixmbr /device/harddisk 0
[13:50] <DJones> arvind_khadri: right, that was what was makinig me wonder and why I suggested he get somebody else to confirm it
[13:50] <Coggz> follow exactly
[13:51] <Coggz> it will work
[13:51] <Wolfmight> k thx
[13:51] <HangukMiguk> this is gonna sound like a stupid question, but if i'm running openbox, which is marked to be upgraded in synaptic, do i have to exit out of openbox?
[13:51] <icesword> yaselmane, oaky,fixmbr /device/harddisk 0.and goodbye.use windows install cd ,press R,when it asks
[13:51] <jonaskoelker> question:  I want to keep /var/cache/apt/archives/ as small as possible; where do I tune this?
[13:51] <arvind_khadri> DJones, hmm :)
[13:51] <yaselmane> can you tel me the steps , because i'm new in this
[13:51] <DistroJockey> yaselmane, icesword: better to mount the windows partition and try first?
[13:51] <yaselmane> tell
[13:51] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hey catch u later
[13:51] <adac> are this all log files in ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[13:51] <fx|RabBit> ok different question: what webcam do you guys use?
[13:52] <icesword> DistroJockey, you do that ,if you like ,i wiill goto bed.and night ,bazhang
[13:52] <fredsa> So can anyone give me advice on how I can go about choosing a new graphics card that supports hardware accelleration? There's no list or anything?
[13:52] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, good night cya
[13:52] <hikejinx> yaselmane: I'm on kubuntu, but there should be something about ntfs configuration in system I think
[13:52] <ere4si> HangukMiguk: no - you will prob have to reboot
[13:52] <savetheWorld> NOTE:  Your dialog in this  channel's is being recorded and published on IRCSEEK
[13:52] <Hobbsee> savetheWorld: it's already listed in the topic.
[13:52] <fx|RabBit> fredsa: waht do you wanna spend?
[13:52] <abid> just copied it to PC lets see if it works
[13:52] <yaselmane> guys , i can't open the C form ubuntu
[13:52] <gatestone> HangukMiguk, it depends, but usually you can upgrade without closing, but of course the new version will not run before you restart
[13:52] <arvind_khadri> abid hey remove the @@
[13:53] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: can you pastebin the output of the following please?:   sudo fdisk -l
[13:53] <yaselmane> but i open D ( stuff )
[13:53] <abid> ooo
[13:53] <abid> ok
[13:53] <jonaskoelker> adac: no, for one the aptitude log isn't mentiond
[13:53] <HangukMiguk> gatestone: so in order for changes to take effect, i'd have to back out of x and log back in?
[13:53] <puplin> yeah
[13:53] <jonaskoelker> adac: do an ls -l /var/log/, that should give you an impression of what's there
[13:53] <yaselmane> Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>76 bytes
[13:53] <yaselmane> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[13:53] <yaselmane> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[13:53] <yaselmane> Disk identifier: 0xc549f072
[13:53] <yaselmane>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[13:53] <yaselmane> /dev/sda1   *           1        5099    40957686    7  HPFS/NTFS
[13:53] <FloodBot3> yaselmane: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <puplin> HangukMiguk: correct
[13:53] <yaselmane> /dev/sda2            5100        5221      979965   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[13:53] <gatestone> Probably yes.
[13:53] <HangukMiguk> or would a full restart be necessary?
[13:53] <arvind_khadri> abid please put a feedback if it happens to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:53] <gatestone> HangukMiguk, probably yes
[13:54] <yaselmane> i'm in hurry
[13:54] <HangukMiguk> ok, thanks
[13:54] <fredsa> fx|RabBit: Not too concerned about price.  I'll be doing opengl programming with it. I also do 3d work with blender but I probably want a gaming card rather than a 3d art card
[13:54] <gatestone> Sometimes a reboot might be required.
[13:54] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: if you are in a hurry, do it right ;)
[13:54] <arvind_khadri> abid please put a feedback if it happens to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:54] <fx|RabBit> !paste | yaselmane
[13:54] <Linuturk> does anyone know of a ncurses or other terminal based front end for gnucash? or another application that would work well over ssh?
[13:54] <ubotu> yaselmane: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:54] <gatestone> HangukMiguk, sometimes a reboot might be required, but not generally for any graphics related stuff
[13:55] <HangukMiguk> gatestone: thanks
[13:55] <abid> do i put default 4 to the very left margin?
[13:55] <abid> as in no space between margin and "default
[13:55] <abid> ?
[13:55] <fx|RabBit> fredsa i can stronglz remommend the 8800gt gs  adapter bz gainward
[13:55] <hikejinx> DistroJockey: does the ntfs configuration tool let him enable read/write access to his ntfs partition? Wouldn't it just be a few clicks in the prefs? I don't have windows, so I don't know.
[13:56] <yaselmane> what can i do now
[13:56] <DistroJockey> hikejinx: not sure on that, not have windows here either atm
[13:56] <cheese> !ubotu | ubotu
[13:56] <ubotu> ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:56] <gatestone> If you want to try your hand at kernel programming, I just found a very easy way, a good tutorial, try it: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/x181.html
[13:57] <abid> Arvid many thanks it worked
[13:57] <DistroJockey> hikejinx: I just was going to give a mount /dev/sda? /mnt/sda? command
[13:57] <fredsa> thanks fx|RabBit. I'm checking it out
[13:57] <hikejinx> DistroJockey: gotcha.
[13:58] <fredsa> fx|RabBit: what's adapter bz gainward?
[13:59] <yaselmane> anyone can help me
[13:59] <DOOM_NX> The program 'rpm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install rpm
[13:59] <DOOM_NX> what is that rpm program?
[13:59] <fragged> Is rcp replaced with scp now? IE if I use rcp will packets still be encrypted?
[13:59] <izinucs> DistroJockey, typically in ubuntu it would be /dev/sda? /media/sda?
[13:59] <yaselmane> icesword , where are you man
[13:59] <fragged> DOOM_NX, its a part of the redhat package management system. google next time -.-
[13:59] <Finnish_> UGh
[13:59] <DistroJockey> izinucs: depends on what you want :)
[14:00] <Finnish_> My net went down
[14:00] <DOOM_NX> fragged, so if i install it, i will be able to install rpm packages?
[14:00] <hikejinx> yaselmane: look for ntfs configuration tool in system, maybe under preferences
[14:00] <izinucs> DistroJockey, true.. but that's kinda the "standard" convention used.. of course you can mount what ever ,, where ever
[14:00] <Finnish_> So the problem with broken packages
[14:00] <fragged> DOOM_NX, how about you ask google
[14:00] <yaselmane> i did it
[14:00] <yaselmane> but , it didn't work
[14:01] <hikejinx> did yo uenable write support for internal device?
[14:01] <lopin> !wow
[14:01] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[14:01] <Finnish_> I have unmet depencies
[14:01] <yaselmane> i will go now
[14:01] <Coggz> anyone got a acer travelmate?
[14:01] <DOOM_NX> fragged, i know about google, if i didn't want an answer from a human here i wouldn't ask
[14:01] <DistroJockey> izinucs: media shows on the Desktop (if you don't change the defaults) I guess
[14:01] <yaselmane> i will find a way to do it , MYSELF
[14:01] <yaselmane> thanks to you all
[14:01] <yaselmane> bye
[14:01] <fragged> DOOM_NX, if a human wanted to answer you. they would have.
[14:02] <DistroJockey> yaselmane: good luck
[14:02] <DistroJockey> snap
[14:02] <Wolfmight> k i gotta reboot, thanks again Coggz
[14:02] <izinucs> DistroJockey, it does.. but there's a way to turn that off so you don't have to look at a lot of drives/partitions if you don't want.
[14:02] <DistroJockey> izinucs: yup
[14:02] <fragged> DOOM_NX, do you have a profession? How about I ask you for tips in your spare time, when you could be doing something you want to do ;)
[14:02] <jmw5098> how can i change a compiz action setting that's blue'd out
[14:02] <Coggz> kk
[14:02] <DOOM_NX> well u don't have to answer urself... if u don't feel like helping then don't
[14:02] <Alexx> if u have any windows problems plz contact me
[14:03] <wonko2> ok, so I gave up on the ldap library issue, but i'm stilling fighting power management under fluxbox
[14:03] <Alexx> hmmmm whats the problem?
[14:04] <fragged> Alexx, if  your talking about the OS check out ##Windows, most of the time they talk shit but occasioanlly a decent conversation sparks up
[14:04] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, what's up .. what question do yo have
[14:04] <Adantan_Alex> .... before a person was here about his windows problems
[14:04] <DJones> DOOM_NX: As you've seen, rpm's aren't part of the ubuntu system, because of that, using them even via alien could break your system, because they're not supported by ubuntu, you'd be unlikely to get much help in the channel if something does go wrong
[14:05] <wonko2> i run: /usr/bin/guidance-power-manager at fluxbox startup, and i get the little battery icon in the tray
[14:05] <DOOM_NX> i just asked if rpm program is able to install rpms or...
[14:05] <wonko2> lid switch does nothing, so i tried right-click and choose suspend from the menu
[14:05] <wonko2> it never suspends
[14:05] <DistroJockey> Adantan_Alex: so?
[14:06] <jmw5098> in compiz, can i apply a screen edge action to show desktop?
[14:07] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: you need alien. It's not so much the program, it's the fact that linux uses different methods to package programs to be installed and you may have problems installing rpms, especially for system critical applications/packages. You would probably be fine with installing that codec or mutlimedia support you wanted.
[14:07] <DOOM_NX> i just want a way to install xmms mp3pro plugin, nothing more
[14:08] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, like DJones said above.. installing RPM's  directly without conversion is impossible.  Converting them can cause many issues in your system. I've only done it to one programs and it was pretty generic so no harm.. If you need something  that you have only found RPM's for .. see if you can get the source files and start a new adventure compiling your own DEB. :)
[14:08] <fx|RabBit> fredsa: as you surely know there are many brands for 8800gt, i recommend you buy the 8800gt gs model by gainward
[14:08] <valchers> hello, I have one question about ubuntu 8.04, i read it will be LTS, but unlit which year?
[14:08] <mewt> fx|RabBit, gainward ? that's a bit of a gamble :S
[14:09] <izinucs> valchers, 3 years on the desktop ... 5 on the server
[14:09] <DOOM_NX> "libmp3PRO-1.0.1-1.i386.rpm"
[14:09] <DOOM_NX> no deb, no source
[14:09] <valchers> thanks
[14:09] <Pici> !lts | valchers
[14:09] <fx|RabBit> mewt: why would that be?
[14:09] <ubotu> valchers: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[14:09] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, what is that.. what's it suppose to do?
[14:09] <Pici> valchers: Its being released at the end of the month, so do the math ;)
[14:09] <Randocal>  Would printing via parallel generally be more reliable than printing via USB? Or are they both about equal at this point?
[14:10] <DOOM_NX> izinucs, decode properly mp3pro files
[14:10] <anton> geronimaldo: still there?
[14:10] <izinucs> Randocal, usb is better supported...  the oher can be flakey from what I've been tolk
[14:10] <mewt> fx|RabBit, last gainward card I had was a 6800gs and damn it gave me so much less performance than a supposedly equal bfg
[14:10] <izinucs> *told
[14:10] <valchers> I need for server
[14:10] <mewt> fx|RabBit, bfg wasnt factory overclocked im sure
[14:10] <geronimaldo> anton: yep how´d it go?
[14:10] <anton> still I dont know how to install my linksys wireless router?? :((
[14:10] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, so it's a player? or converter?
[14:10] <Randocal> That's too bad... i'm failing with USB and was hoping I'd have better results with parallel
[14:11] <geronimaldo> is your wireless card installed in linux?
 DOOM_NX, so it's a player? or converter? -> just a plugin for xmms
[14:11] <anton> no internet connection when i connect my router
[14:11] <anton> yep
[14:11] <valchers> em.. for server this 8.04 beta is good, or take older release?
[14:11] <fx|RabBit> mewt: well i cant follow whith that i had VERY best results with th model tha i mentioned
[14:11] <fragged> DOOM_NX, I'd say the package would be depricated and something better in its place, because of the popularity of MP3's there would definately be something better out there..
[14:12] <anton> its working right now but when i connect it to linksys wireless theres no connection
[14:12] <geronimaldo> no connection to the internet?
[14:12] <fx|RabBit> gawd my kvm switch is swallowing half of the letters again...
[14:12] <DOOM_NX> fragged, sorry, i din't get u :/
[14:12] <mewt> fx|RabBit, that;s why i said it was a gamble..found others like me who had several problems with them..others seem to be quite happy with the gainward cards
[14:12] <geronimaldo> what ip address has your router given you. . (ifconfig)
[14:12] <anton> yes sorry to bother you that much geronimaldo
[14:12] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: it's an uncommon plugin. I saw people have installed it on ubuntu though. I'm not sure why you would need it though.
[14:12] <fishback> hi all
[14:13]  * Yarcanox waves
[14:13] <valchers> for server 8.04 beta is good, or take older release?
[14:13] <andax> anton: i have a linksys router too. Always had some trouble with it. I am looking now to install a 3rd party firmware which supports WDS
[14:13] <LEEU1> WAAR BEN JE LEEUW
[14:13] <fishback> anyone can help me about java plugin on firefox3beta5?
[14:13] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, i want it so that i can listen to a webradio streaming using mp3pro encoding
[14:13] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, nevermind.. I looked it up.. it's a  streaming codec.. I found a plug-in for xmms for you.. that should keep you from banging your head against  the wall trying to get an RPM working ... checkout http://www.all4mp3.com/tools/sw_ct_demo.html
[14:13] <fx|RabBit> mewt: as i said i found it especially performant, i bought it after i red some test reviews and i built it into meanwhile 4 of my customers pcs and they were all smiling like acme
[14:14] <DistroJockey> valchers: wait 16 days if you can :)
[14:14] <negge> fishback  what's the issue?
[14:14] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: does the site offer alternative streams?
[14:14] <fishback> i use gutsy 7.10 and i installed firefox3b5
[14:14] <BloodRoses> this may sound like a weird question, but a brief Google search didn't turn up anything... why would there be a /dev/hdb with a size of 250MB on a default Ubuntu installation?
[14:14] <DOOM_NX> yes izinucs that thing is .rpm
[14:14] <andax> anton: but unfortunately it cant be accessed by cable. So if something goes wrong at the firmware install the router is trashed.
[14:14] <fishback> but i cant open any java pages
[14:14] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, nope
[14:14] <valchers> i cant, i have free test server on 30 days
[14:14] <fishback> or applications :S
[14:14] <negge> fishback  have you installed sun java 6?
[14:14] <fishback> sure
[14:14] <valchers> on this moment there is frebsd
[14:14] <negge> and it did work in firefox 2?
[14:15] <fishback> it works with ff2
[14:15] <negge> okay
[14:15] <fishback> but i installed ff3b5
[14:15] <negge> yeah
[14:15] <izinucs> DOOM_NX, ah you're right.. I didn't bother to look sorry.. let me check some more..
[14:15] <fishback> and java plugin doesnt work
[14:15] <mewt> fx|RabBit, good luck them :)
[14:15] <DOOM_NX> izinucs, i got mine from that site too
[14:15] <negge> fishback have you tried searching for firefox in synaptic, there should be plugin for firefox there
[14:15] <anton> andax: what should i do?
[14:15] <geronimaldo> andax, I was tempted for a while with my linksys but eventually manged to sort it
[14:16] <geronimaldo> I´d never buy another one tho
[14:16] <DOOM_NX> according to this site (option 3): http://users.softlab.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/mp3pro.html it is possible to install the plugin
[14:16] <DOOM_NX> what do u think?
[14:16] <anton> how??
[14:16] <fishback> i did, i installed all java etx: java-plugin java-jre java-bin
[14:16] <negge> okay
[14:16] <anton> geronimaldo: how?
[14:16] <geronimaldo> anton, once we know what your ip address is. you can connect to the router
[14:16] <geronimaldo> and change the settings. so if your address is 192.168.1.*
[14:17] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: give me the link to the site
[14:17] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, what site?
[14:17] <hikejinx> for the stream
[14:17] <DOOM_NX> oh
[14:17] <fragged> geronimaldo, looking at some vunrebilities today, apparently some browsers have a JS hole that allows connecting to a router from a client computer inside the network, cool stuff :P
[14:17] <geronimaldo> then <IP_ADDRESS> will probably be your default gateway and the means to checking your settings
[14:17] <fragged> scary too, other than http what else might you be able to do
[14:17] <negge> fishback the problem could be that firefox plugins normally installs to a directory named firefox (I'm sorry but I don't know where it is right now as I'm not at home), but firefox 3 is installed in a folder called firefox30b5 or something like that
[14:17] <DOOM_NX> http://48kbps.xtc-radio.gr:9400 here u are hikejinx
[14:17] <fx|RabBit> mewt: basically i think you can have bad luck with a bogus part from any brand, you are never safe from that... in that case go exchange it;)
[14:17] <negge> so you'll need to copy the plugins to the new folder in order to "activate" them
[14:17] <anton> yes?
[14:17] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: thanks
[14:17] <negge> atleast that's the case for gnash
[14:18] <andax> geronimaldo: in my own experience, it is technically a awesome piece of work but confusingly complicated if something does not work at first or second attempt.
[14:18] <anton> geronimaldo: can i pm u?
[14:18] <geronimaldo> yep
[14:19] <geronimaldo> andax, I might try it once I get a new router. have you successfully done one?
[14:19] <mewt> fx|RabBit, ye, that i know...however i tend to believe that a faulty card can only happen once ever so often in a production line and the fact that most of the people i know who bought similar cards to mine had the same problems gives a lot of food for thought
[14:19] <anton> got a messenger geronimaldo?
[14:19] <DOOM_NX> izinucs, if u're still searching i suggest u take a look at http://users.softlab.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/mp3pro.html and see option 3
[14:19] <mewt> fx|RabBit, For all I know it could have been a faulty shipment since we all bought them around the same time
[14:19] <anton> i cant caught you here..
[14:19] <anton> :(
[14:20] <andax> And... somehow it seemed i renamed the accesspoints of neighbours instead of my own. As they all have left the default IP and password which was the same like on my one :-/
[14:20] <andax> i didnt notice
[14:20] <fx|RabBit> mewt: that kinda gives me thougth indeed, as a matter of fact youre the first one that i ever heard of trouble with that ones...
[14:20] <geronimaldo> yep.. you on gmail
[14:20] <anton> geronimaldo: ahmm pidgin
[14:20] <mewt> fx|RabBit,  :
[14:20] <geronimaldo> gnice5
[14:21] <fx|RabBit> mewt: and as a bonus the model that i mentioned is so quiet you almost dont hear it - only if yu put your head aside the computer...
[14:21] <mewt> fx|RabBit, i guess my next card will be a bfg or xfx even though they actually cost more to buy :(
[14:21] <mewt> fx|RabBit, got any reviews or benchmarks ?>
[14:21] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: I installed it and it didn't work for me.
[14:21] <fx|RabBit> xfx are nicely pimped, whcih is precisely he reason why i dont buy em, overclockingnever prolongs durability...
[14:22] <fx|RabBit> mewt: not on those, sry..
[14:22] <anton> razel_elvin
[14:22] <mewt> fx|RabBit, ye but the fact that they give you a longer garuntee since it's factory overclocked usually puts my mind to rest
[14:22] <anton> geronimaldo: where r u ?
[14:22] <christoz> Hello room ,where are the settings for activating the skydome image in compiz...?
[14:22] <mewt> fx|RabBit, also as long as you don't push your card too much and always keep temperatures in check you shouldnt have any durability problems anyway
[14:22] <fx|RabBit> mewt: hehe in that case be sure to grab one hehe
[14:23] <fx|RabBit> mewt: naw i dont overclock outta principle..
[14:23] <mewt> fx|RabBit, :) sure will as soon as I get the money
[14:23] <geronimaldo> anton, sorry I was singing onto to pidgin
[14:23] <mewt> fx|RabBit, I dont like overclocking myself, one small mistake with a voltage or multiplier and you get that nice smell of burnt silicon in the air
[14:24] <Concretesledge> i can't figure out how to install this theme
[14:24] <fx|RabBit> mewt: hehe i hope i can upgrade for myself soon too, until now i only built them in for customers and that makes me cry XD
[14:24] <geronimaldo> anton, connect to gnice5
[14:24] <fx|RabBit> mewt: equalling to the smell of burn bills yeah hehe
 DOOM_NX: I installed it and it didn't work for me. -> what do u mean u installed it? u converted the rpm to deb?
[14:24] <mewt> fx|RabBit, ye I know the feeling mate :) been building pcs for customers with PCI-E for ages now...and Im still on agp myself
[14:24] <anton> geronimaldo: wheres that? im new here in linux
[14:24] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: yes
[14:24] <DOOM_NX> see here please hikejinx: http://users.softlab.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/mp3pro.html
[14:24] <DOOM_NX> option 3
[14:25] <geronimaldo> anton, whatś your gmail address?
[14:25] <fx|RabBit> mewt: !!! kk atr least i have a 790gt
[14:25] <fx|RabBit> +0
[14:25] <mewt> fx|RabBit, im still on the said 6800gx
[14:25] <mewt> gs*
[14:25] <DOOM_NX> "copying libmp3PRO.so into /usr/lib/xmms/Input/"
[14:25] <anton><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:25] <DOOM_NX> how do u copy that?
[14:25] <fx|RabBit> mewt: well that one used to rock hard, so not tht bad anyways;)
[14:26] <mewt> fx|RabBit, poor card, she's unable to cope with anything I throw at her nowadays
[14:26] <fx|RabBit> mewt: k, dud been nice talking but i gotta get back to work by sometime
[14:26] <andax> geronimaldo: if i would buy a new one, eventually one of these USRobotics devices. I heard the brand linksys has been obsoleted by cisco
[14:26] <mewt> fx|RabBit, hehe cya
[14:26] <fx|RabBit> mewt: alongside
[14:27] <mewt> andax, not really, cisco are keeping linksys going quite well as far as I know..atleast we still sell them were I work
[14:27] <christoz> I have a question...where are the settings for activating the skydome image in compiz...?
[14:27] <christoz> or is any plugin for it?
[14:27] <christoz> to download
[14:27] <andax> mewt: but they will stop producing new devices or not?
[14:27] <mewt> andax, as far as I know, no
[14:28] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:28] <Nasra> I am new to Gutsy Gibbon  ( Ubuntu 7.10 )...which I like very much at first sight....but I am having a problem I don't know how to save a file int /home and then be able to view / find it .....can you help me please?
[14:28]  * mewt hides
[14:28] <donkey7186> question does anyone know how to make a drop down box with links in KOMPOZER?
[14:29] <mewt> Nasra, you don't normally save files in /home, usually you save them in /home/username
[14:30] <unop_> Nasra, you should save files in /home/<username> as that is your home directory, you can view and find them by then browsing to your home directory
[14:30] <Nasra> mewt: yes so you go /home/xxxxx whatever you have in there.....and then just click it right?
[14:30] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: I'm sorry, can you give me the stream again, I lost connection earlier and restarted
[14:30] <Nasra> unop / mewt: you guys hitting my question which is very good....
[14:30] <DOOM_NX> http://48kbps.xtc-radio.gr:9400
[14:31] <DOOM_NX> it needs to play at 44kHz
[14:31] <hikejinx> ok
[14:31] <unop_> Nasra, it depends on the file in question .. usually you can just double-click the file (as you do on other OSes)
[14:31] <Nasra> unop / mewt so they all go in there all the time....when preparing a let's say a new folder as well...
[14:31] <andax> Nasra: you would require root access but you need to know lots before doing such things. I messed up a system by using GUI apps as root and did fall into inextricable problems.
[14:32] <Nasra> I don't wanna mess it up ...see?
[14:32] <mewt> Nasra, they dont necessarily go in there by default, like in windows you can create folders and files in your My documents, you can create files and folder in your home directory which is /home/<username>
[14:32] <ir2> 1
[14:32] <unop_> Nasra, where you save files is your business really .. it can be anywhere you like (within reason and permissions permitting)
[14:32] <Nasra> unop: what about executable programs.....?
[14:33] <Robert125> How do I import my contacts and emails from an older to a newer version f Thunderbird?
[14:33] <unop_> Nasra, if the files are set to be executable, you can just double-click them -- but in some cases, you might want to run them in a shell / terminal
[14:33] <Nasra> I am the admin for my box here....just wanna learn when things need to ...and where to find it ....you see tha....but so far you guys answered some my questions....which is greast
[14:33] <Nasra> great
[14:34] <Nasra> unop....you are aswering what I want to hear and learn it
[14:34] <Robert125> sorry, false channel
[14:34] <izinucs> Robert125, I think you can export your contacts in one vcard file.. check the menus for that option.
[14:35] <Nasra> unop :  Does it allow to do PMing in here
[14:35] <andax> Nasra: i thought its okay and i dont know the reasons why. I thought because synaptic uses root privileges and works, other apps should work too. But it doesnt. After reboot i had no internet access, xsession did not start up and grub configuration was overwritten by default values.
[14:35] <FD> i have problem configure sis vga card somone can help me ? thanks
[14:36] <Nasra> andax: you indeed had some serious problem in there....oh lol....
[14:36] <andax> Nasra: so its completely messed up and fresh installing the entire system would be the easiest to repair
[14:36] <unop_> Nasra, you can pm here but you need to be registered on freenode and ask the other user's permission first
[14:36] <[Danux]> join #ubuntu-fr
[14:36] <[Danux]> oups ^^
[14:37] <Nasra> unop / andax ...had I known linux was so good especially Ubuntu would it be on it a long time.....
[14:37] <FD_F> i have problem configure sis vga card someone can help me ? thanks
[14:37] <unop_> Nasra, it's never too late or early, welcome aboard!!
[14:37] <Nasra> unop: how do I register in here?
[14:37] <Nasra> thaks
[14:37] <Nasra> unop: beautiful
[14:37] <unop_> !register > Nasra (see the PM from ubotu)
[14:37] <majikins> hello - I've been using dd to clone a disk - its takes a long time as compared to ghost
[14:38] <Nasra> !ubotu
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[14:38] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: I extracted the codec from the rpm and can send it. I loaded it into xmms and it says its working, but I could not get the sound to play. If you want the file so you can try the alternative methods, let me know.
[14:38] <majikins> I had to wait overnite an a bit to clone an 80gig sata disk
[14:38] <majikins> I've been googling and can't to seem to find a way to speed up
[14:39] <Juhaz> have you specified a reasonably large block size?
[14:39] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx,
[14:39] <DOOM_NX> sec
[14:39] <majikins> I waited 40 mins with Ghost
[14:39] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: ok
[14:39] <andax> Nasra: yes, it is really remarkable how much has been done inside that short time since ubuntu is in wider use. I have used mandrake since 1999 and am impressed from ubuntu as well
[14:39] <majikins> I got the bs=32256 - apparently this is optimum
[14:40] <majikins> transfer rate is 1.1Mbs
[14:40] <Nasra> unop: if you were to save a file or open a new folder .....what would you do....my last question but not least......thanks in advace.....I know you just told me....I am saving logs....
[14:40] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, see what's happening to me... i converted rmp to deb with alien and installed it... but now the stream isn't playing at all... i went to /usr/lib/xmms/Input and renamed libmp3PRO.so to libmp3PRO.so.bak and now the stream is playing... (at half sample rate though cause it doesn't use mp3pro decoding)
[14:40] <Nasra> andax: how the new version coming along....has it been alot of corrections?
[14:40] <unop_> Nasra, depends what you want to do with the file really.
[14:41] <Painkiller> I have a problem with liblaunchpad-integration1 on 8.04RLC it broke 2 dependencies...
[14:41] <Cyntrox> Hey, anyone know how to resume a BitTorrent session in Ubuntu?
[14:41] <Pici> Painkiller: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[14:41] <Painkiller> use azureus
[14:41] <arcticpenguin380> does ubuntu support hybrid drives?
[14:42] <Cyntrox> Yeah, but if I've already started downloading a torrent...?
[14:42] <Painkiller> iyes
[14:42] <Painkiller> I know
[14:42] <Nasra> unop: this is what I usually do.....I get programs (off the internet ) and I keep it for later use then when I ready to use it just go there and open it and then try to execute if programs....sometime just wanna read the readme.txt...etc...etc....
[14:42] <RSO> Cyntrox: You only need to reload the tracker in whatever app you're using now
[14:42] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, is ur libmp3PRO.so playing properly?
[14:43] <pajamian> arcticpenguin380: what do you mean by hybrid drives?
[14:43] <Cyntrox> RSO: How do I do that? I'm still using BitTorrent but I could install something else...
[14:43] <unop_> Nasra, just imagine you are using windows, how would you do stuff? it's pretty much the same here too
[14:43] <Nasra> but I want to have in my /home / xxxx
[14:43] <Painkiller> if you open the same torrent, save in the same place, it will check for the downloaded data, that way it will resume :)
[14:43] <hikejinx> i have no sound DOOM_NX
[14:43] <Cyntrox> Painkiller: Okay, thanks
[14:43] <RSO> Cyntrox: Well, you need to put the partial file in the target folder of your new program, and re-download the .torrent file.
[14:43] <Painkiller> welcome
[14:44] <Painkiller> use lxdoom
[14:44] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: perfect here now
[14:44] <Finnish_> Speaking of Torrents
[14:44] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, how?
[14:44] <Cyntrox> RSO: Okay, thanks. I already have the .torrent around, I believe...
[14:44] <Nasra> unop: I was just about to tell you that...but it's like truck different shifts different brands....etc....
[14:44] <hikejinx> I also renamed it, and it just works. I didn't use alien though.
[14:44] <Finnish_> I'd like to send a 200mb file to my friend
[14:44] <Finnish_> Via Torrent
[14:44] <Finnish_> Actually via Transmission
[14:44] <Finnish_> How to do that
[14:45] <Nasra> unop: is like learning different language same thing but differnt concept....of doing it thats all...
[14:45] <andax> Nasra: i have installed ubuntu 7.10 on my 600E thinkpad and on a compaq evo. As on all distributions sound did not work on my laptop (while with windows it does). I only get these beep beep beep sounds out of it. Power management is still an issue. Else, nearby everything worked very well.
[14:45] <unop_> Nasra, the best way to learn how it works, is to try it out, it really is not that different or hard
[14:45] <hikejinx> Ah, it's playing at 22khz, but sounds good
[14:45] <Cyntrox> Finnish_: Why do you want to use torrent? The whole idea of torrent is peer-to-peer... Which means that many people send it to each other.
[14:45] <RSO> Cyntrox: Perfect
[14:45] <beginnersmind> i was able to experience windows vista for awhile, and what can i say, ubuntu is way better.
[14:45] <Cyntrox> beginnersmind: Signed
[14:45] <Finnish_> Well, thats right... Any better idea
[14:45] <Finnish_> ?
[14:46] <pajamian> Finnish_: if you just want to send one file to a friend then bittorrent is not a good solution.  A better solution would probablty be along the lines of sftp
[14:46] <Juhaz> majikins, I really doubt that's anywhere close to optimum for huge amount of data, but it shouldn't be that slow either. you're not dumping it on the same disk?
[14:46] <Cyntrox> Finnish_: You could probably find something to send it with on google.
[14:46] <mttubun> hello
[14:46] <Nasra> unop: don't wanna mess it up .....in 2 weeks being with Ubunut Gutsy Gibbon....2 install so far...that is why I ask all of questions...so I can learn.....you know.....
[14:46] <pajamian> Finnish_: what OS is your friend running?
[14:46] <Finnish_> MS Vista
[14:47] <majikins> Juhaz : nope - the dump was successfull so it did work
[14:47] <unop_> Nasra,  i'd be very surprised if you messed up with something as simple as this :) does that say something?
[14:48] <Nasra> unop / mewt / andax: ....just beautiful thanks alot....
[14:48] <pajamian> Finnish_: yuk, well probably the easiest way is to install ssh-server on your computer and give him an account so he can connect to it and download via an sftp program for windows.  If you have a NAT router make sure to forward port 22.
[14:48] <savetheWorld> !register
[14:48] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
 Ah, it's playing at 22khz, but sounds good -> Yeah standard mp3 decoders decode at 22kHz... mp3pro plays anywhere this way. but to get full quality at 44kHz u need mp3pro decoder
[14:48] <egoleo> someone help with install nvu and good graphic authoring tool
[14:48] <andax> Nasra: I especially wonder because of the sound. i wonder why this is still that complicated. It is a nearby 10 year old laptop and a very popular one too. And still unresolved issues.
[14:48] <Nasra> unop: I know but it's a different world ...you know.....any site you recommend to read about and from Ubuntu?
[14:49] <Nasra> andax you will be alright.....
[14:49] <hikejinx> gotcha... well at least you get your stream DOOM_NX
[14:49] <DJones> !nvu | egoleo: nvu is no longer being developed, its replacement is Kompzer
[14:49] <ubotu> egoleo: nvu is no longer being developed, its replacement is Kompzer: kompozer is WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy, !Backports on !Feisty, and from  « deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu edgy universe » for Edgy.  (Dapper still pending)
[14:49] <SusePilot> i am building a new pc with a core 2 duo E8400 wolfdale it will be running Ubuntu 8.04 and opensuse 10.3 (then 11.0) can anyone reccomend a motherboard?
[14:49] <unop_> Nasra, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[14:49] <Frozenball> Finnish_, moi
[14:50] <egoleo> thnx
[14:50] <Finnish_> Frozenball: Ugh
[14:50] <Nasra> unop: as always your instructions are important to me....thanks alot......
[14:50] <pajamian> brb
[14:50] <andax> Nasra: but like i already mentioned, its on all distributions. Therewith not ubuntu specific i would say.
[14:51] <sipior> SusePilot: as long as it supports your cpu out of the box, i don't think it matters a great deal
 gotcha... well at least you get your stream DOOM_NX -> well yes i already used to get the stream... but i need to install this mp3pro plugin somehow :/
[14:51] <egoleo> but i am not finding Kompzer
[14:51] <hikejinx> did you try to install winamp under wine?
[14:52] <maek> hikejinx, dont use winamp use XMMS
[14:52] <sipior> egoleo: kompozer, i believe
[14:52] <SusePilot> sipior: well i use AMD now and i was told that linux didnt play well with intel chipsets is that not true?
[14:52] <egoleo> thnx got it
[14:52] <hikejinx> didn't the one page have the guy installing winamp under wine to play?
[14:52] <maek> http://www.xmms.org/ hikejinx
[14:52] <egoleo> but u know of any good graphics tool like photoshop?
[14:52] <egoleo> for linux
[14:52] <Pici> egoleo: The Gimp
[14:52] <sipior> SusePilot: works fine. if you're nervous about it, you can always check against the supported list. but i very much doubt you would have issues. i certainly have not.
[14:52] <maek> XMMS has nearly all the features of WINAMP
[14:52] <Cyntrox> what's the name of the default Ubuntu firewall again?
[14:53] <maek> egoleo, The gimp
[14:53] <Pici> Cyntrox: iptables
[14:53] <hikejinx> maek: I was helping DOOM_NX install some weird mp3pro plugin that runs only in xmms, but not easily.
[14:53] <Cyntrox> Thanks, Pici
[14:53] <Pici> Cyntrox: The gui for it is Firestarter in Gnome.
[14:53] <egoleo> apart from that what else plse
[14:53] <hikejinx> maek: there was a howto for winamp under wine that seemed more straightforward.
[14:53] <maek> egoleo, The GIMP is included by default in Ubuntu
[14:53] <pedro> i enabled root password, how do i place root in the login window? and how do i get rid of the annoying messages that pop up about logging in as root?
[14:53] <omar> Guys, what's the best way to clean the source.list ?
[14:53] <egoleo> oh ok
[14:54] <egoleo> any graphic too again?
[14:54] <DOOM_NX> well no i didn't install winamp
[14:54] <maek> or try Adobe's crap web based photoshop
[14:54] <DOOM_NX> and probably won't
[14:54] <sjovan_> omar: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the stuff you don't like. ctrl+k to remove a whole line
[14:54] <sipior> pedro: that's generally considered poor practise
[14:54] <Nasra> andax: it's okay....I am being forced to learn linux...for a software I have use and learn....but first Ubuntu for the next 3 months.....
[14:54] <DOOM_NX> because i want to use custom alsa device with xmms
[14:54] <omar> sjovan_: Thanks
[14:55] <pedro> morning... anyone here use ubuntuworking as root is a lifestyle.. i know this... but is there a way to get rid of the messages? and place add root to gdm login window?
[14:55] <pedro> whoops
[14:55] <pedro> sorry bout that typo
[14:55] <sjovan_> omar: remember... don't remove the stuff you need. sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak could be smart to do first :)
[14:55] <maek> pedro its not advisable to run root 24/7
[14:56] <pedro> haha
[14:56] <sjovan_> maek: why would you do that in ubuntu?
[14:56] <pedro> obviously, no one has the answer
[14:56] <pedro> just predetermined responses
[14:56] <maek> its better to be a user with administrative privileges
[14:56] <pedro> thanks anyway
[14:56] <omar> sjovan_: Yes, thanks for mentioning it. :)
[14:56] <sjovan_> omar: np :)
[14:56] <maek> do what sjovan_ ??
[14:57] <cwraig> pedro,  you can enable root login from system -->administration-->login window
[14:57] <sipior> pedro: well, i'm sure it's possible. you can simply modify gdm to permit root logins
[14:57] <sipior> pedro: but then again, if you don't know how to do it, should you really be doing it?
[14:57] <Joelito> what good IDE for python-gtk, with code completation, do you recommend or know?
[14:58] <cwraig> pedro, on the security tab you can enable admininstrator login
[14:58] <pedro> thank you
[14:58] <andax> Nasra: would be interesting to hear which app it is that inspired you to join the ubuntu community :)
[14:59] <unop> Joelito, emacs and vim both do a good job, try both out and pick one, code-completion might require installation of additional packages
[14:59] <cwraig> pedro, if you figure out how to auto login as root let me know, i have asked oround but i just get shouted at for using root on a daily basis
[14:59] <Exteris> Joelito, bluefish
[14:59] <sipior> auto-login as root?
[15:00]  * sipior shakes his head
[15:00] <Joelito> thanks, searching :)
[15:00] <Nasra> andax is open software for telephony to go around the world....
[15:00] <pedro> cwraig: i hear ya man.. and allowing root login doesnt place root in the login window either.. that sucks.. maybe time for new distro.. maybe slack?
[15:00] <cwraig> sipior, thats the response i always get, but newer an answer on how to do it :P
[15:01] <Juhaz> Joelito, take a look at pida too. dunno if anjuta does python, but it's probably worth a look
[15:01] <Nasra> andax : using servers established allover..
[15:02] <Juhaz> the day someone answers that question we might just as well give up and go back to windows, that's what you want to turn it into anyway.
[15:02] <Cyntrox> what's the bash command for moving files?
[15:02] <sipior> cwraig: you can simply tell gdm to permit root logins. it's possible that gdm is specifically designed not to allow auto-logins for root, and you may have to edit the source code for that. should be simple for you.
[15:02] <jrib> Cyntrox: mv
[15:02] <LollinopiL> everytime I close an ODT document, i ear a sound from the CPU ( sounds like the allarm's sound, not the common sound!!) ... how can I stop it ?
[15:02] <jrib> !cli > Cyntrox (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:02] <Cyntrox> jrib: thanks
[15:02] <sipior> cwraig: so there's your answer
[15:02] <pedro> cwraig: its because people in this channel are like microsoft employees, they do not want you to think for yourself.
[15:02] <bazhang> root on irc? ruh roh
[15:03] <jrib> pedro: are you aware of sudo?
[15:03] <pedro> you bet i am
[15:03] <cwraig> pedro, lets not fire the (free) help
[15:03] <sipior> pedro: if you can think for yourself, why can you not figure out how to modify gdm to do what you want?
[15:03] <pedro> im also aware that i have always worked as root on other distros
[15:03] <andax> Nasra: i am using wengophone to connect my mobile with the computer. It was astonishingly easy to set up. It detected my phone automatically and knew how to communicate without any separate software from the manufacturer itself :)
[15:03] <bazhang> pedro tone down the rhetoric please; people here are volunteers
[15:03] <andax> Nasra: else i havent done anything related with phones
[15:03] <jrib> pedro: the people here are trying to help you.  being root all the time is a very bad idea.  And more importantly, it's completely unnecessary
[15:03] <cwraig> what i have found is that i can just start X without using GDM at all as root & that works well
[15:04] <pedro> wow, these people are like wind up toys, they use predetermined responses, then speak only through ubotu.. its like they arent even human
[15:04] <Joelito> Juhaz: Thanks :)
[15:04] <jacekowski> i have simple usb camera
[15:04] <jacekowski> what i can use to jus see image from camera?
[15:04] <sipior> pedro: i am totally a robot, man.
[15:04] <Nasra> andax : there is an open source telephony software called: Asterisk that is what I am interested about to learn.....
[15:04] <jacekowski> just simple, i need to check is it working?
[15:05] <maek> !root | pedro
[15:05] <ubotu> pedro: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:05] <unop> ha ha
[15:05] <pedro> lmao
[15:05] <pedro> ahahahahahahaha
[15:05] <cwraig> alright thats enough, this channel is just looking out for the everyday user, i can understand that (no one) not everyone "needs" to be root,
[15:05] <pedro> thanks maek, i needed that
[15:05] <bazhang> we are ubotu's legions
[15:05] <sipior> all hail ubotu!
[15:05] <Nasra> andax: is called future of telephony by O'reilly...is amazing very powerful
[15:05]  * pedro salutes ubotu
[15:06] <maek> its perfectly easy enough to administer your system without having to log in as root
[15:06] <pedro> im sure it is
[15:06] <pedro> but who asked that?
[15:06] <bazhang> does not feel as leet though ;]
[15:06] <maek> all the Ubuntu developers worked hard hour after hour to make sure of that
[15:06] <sipior> pedro: did configuring gdm to permit root logins not work? or have you not even tried yet?
[15:07] <cwraig> it just gives you that feeling like your running a SVN (i know its git) build of the kerenel :P
[15:07] <mad_max02> hey guys I gotta question: can I remove windowsxp passwords from ubuntu live dvd ??
[15:07] <pajamian> pedro if you want a real root account it's easy enough to do, just sudo -i to get an actual root shell, then you can assign a password with the passwd command.
[15:07] <maek> no mad_max02
[15:07] <unop> maek, it's not just ubuntu .. infact it's the guys at gnome who have configured GDM that way
[15:07] <bazhang> mad_max02: not very likely
[15:07] <markmuetz> hi guys, i've upgraded to hardy heron and have hit some problems