[18:19] <matt_o> but if the child is running, then I'll be waiting an indefinite amount of time (unreliable)... if it isn't running, then I have to wait for the child process to exit with an error code (as I see it), again waiting an indefinite amount of time
[18:19] <pc__> thanks folks & good night.
[18:19] <graelin> pc__,  unfortunately you will someday.. but be strong.. even an alcoholic can fall from the wagon and get back up again
[18:20] <acicula> matt_o: best move this to ##c
[18:20] <Stargaze> matt_o, check this website and read issues 17 to 14 => http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/full_circle_overview.html
[18:20] <matt_o> ok
[18:20] <acicula> Ichat: it probablt is not avaialbe by default remotely and you have to change a setting to make it available from other computers
[18:21] <acicula> Ichat: mind you thats not recmmened if you are connected to a public network
[18:21] <matt_o> Stargaze, is that supposed to be a joke?
[18:21] <Stargaze> matt_o, what do you mean?
[18:21] <matt_o> Stargaze, I don't see anything at that link that is relevant to the context
[18:22] <guiapp> hi, is there any easy to use GUI application that will allow me to run a command as root every 5 minutes on my karmic computer?
[18:22] <acicula> guiapp: a gui for crontab?
[18:22] <peterrq> do you know a Voice Changer for ubuntu? Anybody?
[18:22] <guiapp> acicula, yes
[18:22] <Ichat> acicula:  -   on  9.10  i was able to install it,  and edit its settings file to  enable access to any host in  the   192.168.10.*   range (being my subnet).
[18:22] <Stargaze> matt_o, check this website, Archive, issues 17 to 24 => http://fullcirclemagazine.org/
[18:22] <vladi> hello everyone!!!
[18:22] <vladi> :)
[18:22] <guiapp> a well supported one
[18:23] <acicula> Ichat: maybe you have to explitly set the interface its listening on
[18:23] <Ichat> problem seems that i cant find where its settings are and how they work exactly
[18:23] <matt_o> Stargaze, looks like basic C tutorials to me.. my question is a bit advanced
[18:24] <seanbrystone> So yesterday i was trying to get Nautilus to open a file in VIM using Open With thingy, someone in here told me to add gnome-terminal -x vim %x, that worked, but somehow the settings didn't set permanently, so does nautilus have a .*rc  or something so i can make it permanent?
[18:24] <vladi> i've got a small question to ask... Where do i find the "Battery status file" in ubuntu... i want to make my conky show my battery status in %, but it seems it's not BAT0 or BAT1, as it would be as default... can anyone tell me how to find out the correct "name" of my battery?
[18:24] <nigelnigel>    	 	 	 	 	 	   My wireless internet is not working again, first it wasnt working, then I typed some code for madwifi in that I got off some website, not sure if that help but after a while it started working, now I see the networks that are available but it does not work again. In that I can't connect to my own wireless network
[18:25] <usuario_> hola!
[18:25] <graelin> peace
[18:25] <usuario_> jajaja
[18:25] <seanbrystone> oh here we go
[18:25] <seanbrystone> !es | usuario_
[18:25] <genii> usuario_: English here please
[18:25] <vladi> nigelnigel i had a similar problem with 9.10 karmic.... try downloading WICD network manager...it solved my wireless problems, just look for it in add/remove programs... it's in the ubuntu repos
[18:25] <erUSUL> !es | usuario_
[18:26] <tarnap> usuario_: ping me if you need infos in spanish
[18:26] <nigelnigel> vladi is it a problem with my driver?
[18:26] <tarnap> question: i'm trying to get a 3tb partition to run under ubuntu desktop
[18:26] <vladi> probably
[18:26] <tarnap> i think i have to activate kernel gpt support
[18:26] <tarnap> anyone ever done this? i can't find a good link in the forums
[18:27] <nigelnigel> vladi: anyway ill try out what you said thank you
[18:27] <vladi> in my case...wireless worked perfectly untill i installed the newest ubuntu version.... and ran up on this solution on some forum... i tried Wicd and it worked
[18:27] <vladi> plus
[18:27] <vladi> when you install wicd it automaticly uninstalls the gnome nm
[18:27] <vladi> so no problem with conflicts
[18:27] <nigelnigel> vladi when you say karmic 9.1 is that your wireless cards brand?
[18:28] <erUSUL> tarnap: ubuntu supports gpt just fine
[18:28] <melodie_> hello !
[18:28] <vladi> nigelnigel: no ;)) it's the newest version of the Ubuntu linux distro
[18:28] <vladi> it's Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala
[18:28] <vladi> or smth like that
[18:28] <Stargaze> !hi| melodie_
[18:28] <melodie_> hi Stargaze
[18:28] <nigelnigel> vladi my card is atheros
[18:28] <melodie_> hi niphlhell
[18:29] <nigelnigel> vladi what card do you have
[18:29] <vladi> nigelnigel: it doesn't really matter
[18:29] <nigelnigel> vladi
[18:29] <nigelnigel> vladi ok thank you very much
[18:29] <vladi> i've got a HP wireless card
[18:29] <vladi> ip2200
[18:29] <flodine> is it true lucid wont support older ati cards like 5year old
[18:29] <Pici> flodine : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:29] <vladi> try wicd and let me know how it went
[18:29] <tarnap> erUSUL: glad to hear this... i'll google for big partitions :D
[18:29] <melodie_> I am looking for a difficult problem's answere
[18:29] <melodie_> answer
[18:29] <nigelnigel> vladi should i really contact you on here
[18:29] <Stargaze> !ask| melodie_
[18:30] <erUSUL> flodine: no true it supports it through the free radeon driver. it is true that *AMD/ATI* do not support older cards in its closed source driver fglrx
[18:30] <vladi> nigelnigel if you want to :) i'll be here....searching for some answers myself :)
[18:30] <mgolisch> is there any special package mirrors that i should use when creating a local mirror?
[18:30] <nigelnigel> vladi great thanks
[18:30] <melodie_> I would like to find out what command line can give me the information about what graphic driver is in use in the system
[18:30] <chintal> hi, i'm unable to login via kdm. it accepts the password and then kicks me out immediately. the same for failsafe as well as kde. could anyone hlp me with this?
[18:31] <erUSUL> melodie_: grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log may help
[18:31] <vladi> no problem :) a lot of ppl helped me out here, when i needed some answers...i'm happy i can finally be of help to someone else :)
[18:31] <mgolisch> melodie_: no idea i usualy grep through the xorg logfile
[18:31] <melodie_> I have gone to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/* directory...
[18:31] <melodie_> erUSUL, thanks I try !
[18:32] <flodine> i got a old Ati mobility fire gl T2 is it true lucid wont support this card and older ones like it?
[18:32] <engine> hi
[18:33] <erUSUL> flodine: already answered you
[18:33] <Pici> flodine: And please use #ubuntu+1 for further lucid questions.
[18:33] <vladi> Can anyone tell me please how do i find out under what name is my laptop battery in ubuntu (ex. BAT0 or BAT1 ....) ??? please anyone?? :)
[18:33] <melodie_> erUSUL, it has loaded.... 4 drivers and unloaded 2 : how many are left ? o_O
[18:33] <melodie_> XD
[18:33] <erUSUL> melodie_: 2 :)
[18:34] <tarnap> ext3 or ext4?
[18:34] <melodie_> erUSUL, is THAT possible ?
[18:34] <genii> melodie_: sudo lshw -C video | grep driver
[18:34] <jordo2323> Is there a good web-based BIND management tool that's easily installed in Ubuntu?
[18:34] <melodie_> genii, thanks !
[18:34] <melodie_> I try ! :D
[18:34] <erUSUL> melodie_: could be ... which ones ?
[18:34] <melodie_> intel and i810
[18:34] <flodine> erUSUL you did im sorry i left and came back
[18:34] <melodie_> unloaded vesa and fbdev
[18:35] <erUSUL> flodine: no true it supports it through the free radeon driver. it is true that *AMD/ATI* do not support older cards in its closed source driver fglrx
[18:35] <Fritx> hi folks, I hope someone can help. I need a frontend for MS SQL server 2005, and I need it pretty much now. Does anyone know anything I can quickly install from the repos, that will give me some frontend functionality?
[18:35] <erUSUL> melodie_: so the intel driver it is
[18:36] <flodine> erUSUL  so what do i do firer this old thing
[18:36] <erUSUL> Fritx:  a generic SQL client ?
[18:36] <erUSUL> flodine: use the radeon driver
[18:36] <melodie_> erUSUL, nope
[18:36] <melodie_> genii, it's i915 ! ^^
[18:36] <faron> Hello everybody.Hopefully all are well today.Firefox keeps shutting down everytime I attempt to load a certain webpage.Is there any way at all to stop this ? The page I am trying to load,is an instructional page from within this page...   http://www.blogjer.com/2009/03/02/this-firefox-tweak-release-memory-when-minimized/      The actual page that I am trying to load comes from a link {the word "tip"} from that page.ANY advice ?
[18:36] <Fritx> erUSUL, yeah, well, SQL server 2005 is the only thing that I really need right now, but that sounds good
[18:38] <erUSUL> Fritx: http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/
[18:38] <tvw> Fritx: I would check for a java client: http://java-source.net/open-source/sql-clients
[18:39] <Fritx> thanks erUSUL and tvw
[18:40] <nigelnigel> vladi it is working now i am 100% wifi thanks bro
[18:40] <erUSUL> !info mergeant
[18:40] <vladi> nigelnigel: hehe i'm happy to hear that :)
[18:40] <tarnap> worx
[18:41] <tarnap> just set the wrong label the first time (msdos)
[18:41] <tvw> I want use ufw for managing the firewall of a server. Is there something like "ufw status verbose" which shows the rules, but when the firewall is inactive?
[18:42] <nigelnigel> vladi i have a button for my wifi to the left of my shutdown button on my desktop, in vista it is blue when it is on, but though my wifi is fine in ubuntu it is showing as orange colour
[18:42] <nigelnigel> vladi i mean on my laptop
[18:42] <vladi> the blue LED is usually the bluetooth
[18:43] <vladi> not wireless
[18:43] <tarnap> blue led is a blue led
[18:43] <melodie_> genii, I'm going to write this command line to my blog so I don't forget it : http://melodie.toile-libre.org/
[18:43] <melodie_> :D
[18:43] <aaronorosen2> Hello, i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this but does anyone know if Ekiga lets you do a conference video chat with multiple people? (Or anything that does that)
[18:43] <nigelnigel> vladi ah ok thnks
[18:43] <tarnap> une newbie... bonne chance :D
[18:44] <Pici> nigelnigel: Those LED colors are sometimes controlled by software.  I remember that there was a bug in one of our alphas at one point where the LED didn't even light up at all on my wifi but it was working. Its probably something similar in this case.
[18:44] <vladi> if it works than it's ok ;DD
[18:44] <vladi> that's what i always say
[18:44] <maveas> Is it possible to use the systems user accounts to auth on a apache 2 httpd?
[18:45] <hanasaki> where is the list of "these are all the reasons to upgrade to lucid when it comes out"?
[18:45] <nigelnigel> Pici alphas sorry i dont understand the terminology, new to linux, but yes i believe you are correct cause my wifi turned blue with my hp wireless assistant that i needed to access the wireless internet
[18:46] <vladi> maveas why would anyone want that?
[18:46] <Pici> hanasaki: Check the topic in #ubuntu+1 for the alpha3 announcement, it has some of the information.
[18:46] <maveas> I want
[18:46] <msaul_> hi, was wondering if anyone had suggestions for adobe flash, where you can't select "allow" for access to webcam and microphone?
[18:47] <maveas> It's for a site which has to have some kind of auth
[18:47] <nigelnigel> Pici why do i need specific software for wifi, i thought all one needs is the proper driver installed
[18:47] <Guiness> hey guys. :)
[18:47] <Pici> nigelnigel: You dont, I was referring to a kernel module (driver)
[18:47] <aruntomar> msaul_: in the browser when flash player appears, right click and choose properties
[18:47] <maveas> So I though that the users should be able to use their system acounts insteed of creating the same username twice...
[18:47] <msaul_> I right clicked on icon and select settings - I have to use TAB, and it worked for a youtube video, but didn't allow me to selec the radio button when I was on site wiziq for setting hardware...
[18:47] <Pici> maveas: I'm completely guessing, but based on the package name libapache2-mod-auth-pam should provide something like that.
[18:47] <maveas> Pici: I'll look at it. Thanks. <3
[18:47] <nigelnigel> Pici thank you
[18:48] <msaul_> aruntomar: Already been there - did a LOT of reading and trying out
[18:48] <Guiness> well
[18:48] <hanasaki> pici thanks... the list is pretty short
[18:48] <msaul_> Was wondering if there was a general file where I can turn off that dialog box...
[18:48] <Guiness> i spent a day and a half trying to make my wifi card work in my netbook
[18:48] <Guiness> :D
[18:48] <hanasaki> and empathy sucks as a chat client.. no http proxy support
[18:49] <hanasaki> why the switch
[18:49] <Guiness> go go gadget pidgin
[18:49] <Guiness> >.>
[18:49] <sanchez> olaa
[18:49] <nigelnigel> i just installed my first copy of linux/ubuntu are there viruses in the linux world, how prevelant, do i need an antivirus
[18:49] <sanchez> hi!!!
[18:49] <Guiness> hey guys
[18:49] <sanchez> mi name is josep michael
[18:50] <maco> nigelnigel: about 30 of them ever
[18:50] <sanchez> ahh
[18:50] <maco> nigelnigel: AV in the linux world is to check files for viruses before you hand them off to unsuspecting windows users
[18:50] <kay0s> is it normal for hulu to look glitchy and weird on an 8800gts at 1920x1080?
[18:50] <sanchez> maco where do you life
[18:50] <Pici> !ot | sanchez
[18:50] <maco> sanchez: the planet Terra in the system Sol
[18:50] <theadmin> Hm. If $PWD is the same as $(pwd), why do they even need that variable? :/
[18:50] <vladi> maveas: oh....
[18:50] <sproaty> using dual monitors: is there a way to slow my mouse down as it reaches the edge of the screen?
[18:50] <Guiness> is there any way that i can switch from reg ubuntu to the remix netbook version?
[18:50] <sanchez> no see
[18:50] <msaul_> when I right-click and select properties or settings for adobe flash, I can't use mouse, but can tab to selections, and many work except for allow and deny radio buttons....
[18:50] <vladi> maveas: for security i'd say
[18:51] <sanchez> we are stupids
[18:51] <llutz> theadmin: easier to use in scripts
[18:51] <nigelnigel> maco wow so there have only been 30 viruses that have affected linux ever
[18:51] <sproaty> keep going to close a window in the left monitor and going too far and ending up on the other screen
[18:51] <aruntomar> has anybody tried multiseat configuration on karmic
[18:51] <scott_ino2> Im looking for the easiest way to convert a .ogg video file with sound to .flv... was hoping avidemux could do it but it appears not
[18:51] <msaul_> I'm using Adobe Flash 10...
[18:51] <erUSUL> maco: s/Terra/Tierra/
[18:51] <sanchez> sexy moving
[18:51] <maco> nigelnigel: in the wild, yes. ther have been proof-of-concepts not released in order to demonstrate vulnerabilities that were then fixed
[18:51] <vladi> and why does noone want to answer my simple question??? ;)
[18:51] <llutz> nigelnigel: theres other malware you should take care of
[18:51] <theadmin> By the way what will happen if i explicitly set PWD to something else? Will it cd?
[18:52] <nigelnigel> llutz what do i download to take care of that
[18:52] <maco> nigelnigel: trojans can still be a problem of course. dont install software from people you dont trust
[18:52] <sanchez> the vulvaa
[18:52] <maco> sanchez: stop
[18:52] <Guiness> or...does reg ubuntu == remix netbook version?
[18:52] <llutz> nigelnigel: "/dev/brain" :)
[18:52] <maco> Pici: thanks
[18:52] <nigelnigel> llutz thank you
[18:52] <Pici> maco: np
[18:52] <deadpigeon> i dont know.. /proc/acpi/battery
[18:52] <Guiness> thats Pici
[18:52] <riki> irc://irc.darksin.it/atl_revenge
[18:53] <aruntomar> scott_ino2: try sox
[18:53] <nigelnigel> maco trojans do they not replicate is this why they are not considered viruses
[18:53] <scott_ino2> aruntomar, k, looking into it now
[18:53] <maco> nigelnigel: precisely :)
[18:53] <deadpigeon> try ls /proc/acpi/battery
[18:53] <deadpigeon> and it'll either be BAT0 or BAT1
[18:53] <deadpigeon> vladi
[18:53] <theadmin> I dunno, sometimes I get a feeling many newbies act all like "cat /dev/brain > /dev/null"... Sorry everyone. Just wonder why on earth nobody EVER reads the FAQs
[18:53] <nigelnigel> maco so what do they mainly do
[18:53] <maco> nigelnigel: trojans mean someone says "its this great game you'll love it!" and really it screws your computer up
[18:53] <llutz> theadmin:  it won't cd, but $PWD != $(pwd) if you set PWD yourself
[18:53] <Guiness> is there a guide to efficiently set up iptaples?
[18:54] <nigelnigel> maco is there much spyware on linux
[18:54] <llutz> theadmin: don't restrict your feeling to newbies
[18:54] <maco> nigelnigel: on the desktop side, no, but browser-based things like cookies of course still exist
[18:54] <gandhijee> how do i disable an upstart service from starting?
[18:54] <astrojp> Can anyone tell me what version of Python is in 10.4? Is it version Python 2.6.4?
[18:54] <nigelnigel> maco thanks for the great insight
[18:55] <erorrs> is there any ati driver for ubuntu 9.10?
[18:55] <maco> nigelnigel: and OS wont protect you from, for example, cross site scripting or phishing. those are purely online things
[18:55] <erorrs> is there any ati driver for ubuntu 9.10?
[18:55] <Guiness> erorrs: yes, there is
[18:55] <vladi> deadpigeon yes i've tried both and it doesn't work... and when i looked in that folder i got some strange names ;) no bat0 or bat1
[18:55] <llutz> theadmin: there are a lot quite experienced users still shouting "linux is save, no worries"
[18:55] <erorrs> which is?
[18:55] <maco> nigelnigel: noscript is a great firefox extension for keeping javascript from doing badness ;-)
[18:55] <Guiness> erorrs: system -> admin -> hardware drivers
[18:55] <deadpigeon> vladi: well check out /proc/acpi and see what you find. try catting the names
[18:55] <Vigo> errors: There are many.
[18:55] <vladi> deadpigeon: C173 and C174
[18:55] <theadmin> llutz: Uh, it is safe. If you don't act stupidly.
[18:55] <deadpigeon> vladi: try: cat /proc/acpi/batteryC173
[18:56] <melodie_> genii, http://melodie.toile-libre.org/index.php/xorg-auto-et-mon-driver-graphique/
[18:56] <theadmin> llutz: On windows there is still more chance of an infection.
[18:56] <vladi> and my bat is C174
[18:56] <llutz> theadmin: nothing is "save by design"
[18:56] <deadpigeon> vladi: it should return information about the battery if it is that such device
[18:56] <erorrs> is that one not crush in my ati hd 3200?
[18:56] <llutz> safe
[18:56] <flipflop_> Hi!
[18:56] <nigelnigel> maco do you do all your installs through the synaptic package manager
[18:56] <vladi> deadpigeon i've done that... and it's c174
[18:56] <scott_ino2> aruntomar, this will do video as well?
[18:56] <theadmin> flipflop_: Hello.
[18:56] <kay0s> what can I do to reverse the tearing I see in flash based video with an 8800gts?
[18:56] <vladi> deadpigeon: c173 is empty...
[18:56] <deadpigeon> vladi: then it's C174. cat /proc/acpi/battery/C174/state and /info
[18:56] <kay0s> s/reverse/reduce/
[18:57] <flipflop_> I have two laptop and one HD with karmic installed
[18:57] <Guiness> i need help setting up iptables, can anyone help?
[18:57] <maco> nigelnigel: i use the command line, and since i use kubuntu the graphical thing for me would be kpackagekit, but if you mean "does it all come from repositories?" then generally, yes, with the exception of code i write ;-)
[18:57] <scott_ino2> Guiness, what are your needs? can you not just use UFW?
[18:57] <erorrs> is there any ati driver for ubuntu 9.10 stable
[18:58] <flipflop_> the problem is that the graphic card of latpot1 is intel and the laptop2 is nvidia
[18:58] <im2> hi, i am getting following error while installing "libv4l-dev"  http://pastebin.com/Fwb5riE8 . please help
[18:58] <gonzoism> i took a screenshot and included commands to make a fresh install look like my desktop. :)  http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/bchob/a_dark_themed_linux_screenshot_with_the_pirate/
[18:58] <nigelnigel> maco cool i am such a newb cant wait to start writing some code on my own
[18:58] <theadmin> erorrs: Err, I have an ATI video card, it works PERFECTLY, so please be more specific on "ati driver"
[18:58] <aliciapg> does anyone know how to limit the cpu usage for a certain job?
[18:58] <Vhozard> Well, I like the fish, gonzoism
[18:58] <Vhozard>  aliciapg nice ?
[18:59] <scott_ino2> theadmin, really? you don't have tearing issues?
[18:59] <erorrs> please tell me what to do?will i install fglrx
[18:59] <theadmin> scott_ino2: "tearing"?
[18:59] <aliciapg> Vhozard: what?
[18:59] <flipflop_> ima2: sudo aptitude update
[18:59] <Vigo> !ATI
[18:59] <flipflop_> and paste that!
[18:59] <Vhozard>  aliciapg try to use the command ¨nice¨
[18:59] <erUSUL> aliciapg: nice and/or schedtool
[18:59] <scott_ino2> theadmin, yes tearing issues that ATI has been notoriously known for such as fullscrean XV playback
[19:00] <sometux> \o
[19:00] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 I have ati drivers, only when I use smplayer --> preset opengl (ATI CARDS FAST) I get NO tearing
[19:00] <scott_ino2> theadmin, this is with fglrx, not the open source driver which works, however no 3d with open source driver
[19:00] <Vhozard> The preset is called ¨opengl (ATI CARDS FAST)¨
[19:00] <theadmin> scott_ino2: Dunno who is "XV", but i can watch videos and play games and all fullscreen fine. Only problem ever encountered is that during boot, on xsplash, it starts flashing crazily
[19:00] <claptrap> Alright, so I'm about to try recovering a formatted 500 GB HDD onto another 500GB using foremost. My question is, since the originally wiped partition was NTFS, do I need to format the NEW HDD to NTFS?
[19:01] <erorrs> i have ati hd 3200 will i install fglrx
[19:01] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, but i don't want opengl playback, as Xvideo is a lot more friendly on CPU
[19:01] <scott_ino2> XV as in Xvideo
[19:01] <aliciapg> erUSUL: what exactly does nice do?
[19:01] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 Opengl or tearing, your choice
[19:01] <eva> ola
[19:01] <sometux> erorrs:  by default your distro use ati open source drivers
[19:01] <erUSUL> aliciapg: increases the nicenes of the process i.e how nice it is in regards of the others
[19:01] <flipflop_> there exist any channel for graphic card problems?
[19:01] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, that's what im getting at ;)
[19:01] <sarmisak> hi all
[19:01] <nigelnigel> llutz i have checked my synaptic package manager for brain cant find any malware or virus program i also look in dev and saw no brain folder
[19:02] <Guiness> erorrs: i also have an ati hd 3200 in my netbook, you wil go to Sysyem -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[19:02] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 What cpu do you have?
[19:02] <theadmin> scott_ino2: Actually, i'm using built-in drivers. What was the command to see the video card?
[19:02] <erUSUL> aliciapg: the nicer a process the less CPU it will use (is being nice with the other processes)
[19:02] <Guiness> erorrs: ubuntu should auto-detect the card
[19:02] <Guest95519> irse ya
[19:02] <sometux> erorrs: but you can install the ati binary drivers
[19:02] <claptrap> Alright, so I'm about to try recovering a formatted 500 GB HDD onto another 500GB using foremost. My question is, since the originally wiped partition was NTFS, do I need to format the NEW HDD to NTFS?
[19:02] <Guiness> that too. :P
[19:02] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, 3.4 GHZ quadcore so yes i can afford the overheat, but would rather not have to
[19:02] <aliciapg> erUSUL: well i'm just trying to render a video and my computer is overheating
[19:02] <Guest95519> olaaaa
[19:03] <llutz> nigelnigel: sorry, i was kidding. i meant: there are things, you just have to be carefull and use your brain instead hoping to be safe with a piece of software
[19:03] <scott_ino2> theadmin, lspci?
[19:03] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 xD, 3.4 ghz quadcore, just use opengl and get over it
[19:03] <exaltia> !fr
[19:03] <Guest95519> ola
[19:03] <flipflop_> Guest95519: hola
[19:03] <Guest95519> olaa
[19:03] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, ;)
[19:03] <Guest95519> k tal?
[19:03] <erorrs> so i will go system>admin>hardware driver and install it?
[19:03] <theadmin> scott_ino2: Ah, there. "01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]". And that works perfectly
[19:03] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, but i shouldn't have to is what im getting at.. that's all
[19:03] <scott_ino2> not complaining
[19:03] <sometux> erorrs: yes
[19:03] <erUSUL> aliciapg: nice -n 19 command ; if the command is already running you can use renice « renice -n 19 -p <PID> »
[19:04] <nigelnigel> llutz lol a newb will take everything literally should have know better bad you
[19:04] <erorrs> will it be stable?not crash on my ati 3200
[19:04] <sometux> erorrs: you cant also download the driver from ati web site
[19:04] <aliciapg> erUSUL: alright i'll try that. thank you ^-^
[19:04] <scott_ino2> theadmin, you're using open source driver or fglrx?
[19:04] <erUSUL> aliciapg: no problem
[19:04] <claptrap> Nobody have any ideas on the question about foremost? :<
[19:04] <scott_ino2> v
[19:04] <theadmin> scott_ino2: No idea. I'm using whatever came on Ubuntu CD
[19:04] <Guiness> sometux: cant or can?
[19:05] <Guiness> <.<
[19:05] <sometux> erorrs: whats wrong with the opensource driver
[19:05] <scott_ino2> theadmin, do you have compiz enabled or no?
[19:05] <scott_ino2> theadmin, easy way to tell, as it wont work with the open source driver, although in development
[19:05] <erorrs> cant get desktop effects and cant play 3d games
[19:05] <Vigo> claptrap: Are you using it for a Windows install?
[19:06] <theadmin> scott_ino2: Sometimes yes. I keep it off when running hungry processes. Usually it works with Compiz though, too.
[19:06] <arcaos> have some problems burning a 4.4Gb DVD with brasero and wonder if you can provide some assistance
[19:06] <sometux> Guiness: sorry i mean you can
[19:06] <Guiness> sometux: lolk
[19:06] <theadmin> scott_ino2: Love that effect when windows burn when you close them lol
[19:06] <claptrap> Vigo: Trying to recover an NTFS partition; it /had/ Windows on it, a long long time ago, but no, not the install itself. Just the files.
[19:06] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 Using the opensource drivers and 2.6.33 gives decent 3D
[19:07] <Vhozard> (kernel 2.6.33)
[19:07] <arcaos> I have a 4.4Gb ISO and a 4.7Gb DVD (which I understand is 4.4Gb really) but it still says not enough space in Brasero and don't know how to work around it
[19:07] <ZykoticK9> Will running "sudo update-grub" (without LiveCD/chroot) find Windows installs and add them to grub2 menu?
[19:07] <arcaos> it has happened many times
[19:07] <theadmin> arcaos: The contents of the ISO can be bigger then ISO itself
[19:07] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, they made it work?
[19:07] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, if they did then im excited as i hated the fglrx driver
[19:07] <Gaja> hi, can somebody help me with the virtualbox?  i`ve got Ubuntu as my host system and windows xp as my virtual system and my virtual system can't connect to the internet. at the channel #vbox nobody can help me :(
[19:08] <melodie_> arcaos, what about using a usb key instead ?
[19:08] <richthegeek> hey, i have a 64gb SSD arriving on Tuesday and want to move my system partition (home is on a seperate) to it. Do I need to any more than copy/paste and reconfig grub?
[19:08] <erorrs> sometux:what i shall do?
[19:08] <aliciapg> erUSUL: it seems like my computer is going to overheat again...
[19:08] <sometux> arcaos: make sure the DVD is empty
[19:08] <arcaos> theadmin: and the ISO was created by Brasero itself...
[19:08] <theadmin> Gaja: Do network interfaces get detected? If no, you'll need some driver.
[19:08] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, what chipset do you have
[19:08] <theadmin> arcaos: Oh. Weird
[19:08] <richthegeek> Gaja: Install the Virtualbox Host Extras
[19:08] <sometux> erorrs: try  the driver shiped with your distro
[19:08] <Vigo> claptrap: Do you wish to recover it or do you want to use it for an Ubuntu install?
[19:08] <theadmin> arcaos: Brasero is freakin' buggy, i myself use k3b
[19:08] <melodie_> arcaos, what is this iso ?
[19:08] <Gaja> How do i install the virtual box host extras
[19:09] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 Not using ubuntu, but with arch linux and xf86-video-git + libdrm-git + mesa-git + 2.6.33 I got decent performance (nexuiz 25 fps on ultra settings)
[19:09] <richthegeek> Gaja: it's in one of the menus of the OS window
[19:09] <theadmin> Gaja: There are no host extras, there are guest addons
[19:09] <arcaos> melodie_: movie
[19:09] <sometux> melodie_: but i use it all the time without problems
[19:09] <Vhozard> got two HD4850 in crossfire
[19:09] <richthegeek> Gaja: yes, guest addons.. havent used it in a while sorry
[19:09] <Oasa> tell me an application which will create and write dvd from a .avi or .mpg file it should be fast
[19:09] <melodie_> arcaos, try with gnomebaker
[19:09] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, ahh i see... excellent glad they stabilized that driver
[19:09] <erorrs> sometux:so will install from system?hardware driver
[19:09] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, im gonna have to try it out
[19:09] <sometux> melodie_: the only problem is with ripping audio
[19:09] <Vhozard>  xf86-video-ati-git*
[19:09] <claptrap> Vigo: I don't quite understand your question. I just want the files (text files, videos, pics amd mp3s mostly). I'm running Ubuntu as my main OS.
[19:09] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, this is the radeon driver correct that you speak of?
[19:09] <sometux> erorrs: yes
[19:09] <arcaos> melodie_: will look into it
[19:09] <melodie_> arcaos, else I can give you a command line to burn the iso if you like
[19:09] <Vhozard> yeah
[19:09] <ZykoticK9> Oasa, devede (not sure about the "fast" part, encoding takes time)
[19:10] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, sweet... good to know
[19:10] <melodie_> wodim -v -dao dev=/dev/yourdevice file.iso
[19:10] <Gaja> The guest addons are installed yet
[19:10] <richthegeek> Oasa: devede ... the speed is up to your system and seeing as it needs to convert to the right size and so on, it'll take some time
[19:10] <melodie_> that's good command line arcaos !
[19:10] <richthegeek> Gaja: have you added a network to the setup?
[19:10] <erorrs> sometux:is it not gonna crash on ati 3200?
[19:10] <arcaos> melodie_: would love command line instructions
[19:10] <Vigo> claptrap: Ok, now I understand, do you have a backup , I forget what that thing is called, oh System Restore?
[19:10] <Gaja> richthegeek: how do i add a network to the setup?
[19:10] <melodie_> arcaos, I just gave it to you
[19:11] <sometux> erorrs:  i don't think so
[19:11] <melodie_> arcaos, wodim -v -dao dev=/dev/yourdevice file.iso
[19:11] <theclaw> I tried syncing my phone via opensync (syncml via obex), msynctool seems to receive the entries, but at the end, it just doesn't finish
[19:11] <Vhozard> scott_ino2 And KMS works for me too, finally...
[19:11] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, im using a radeon HD 3400 which i believe is a R6xx chip, so that's why i was always in a pickle before now i suppose
[19:11] <arcaos> melodie_: sorry, thx
[19:11] <richthegeek> Gaja: stop the virtual machine, in the main window click "settings" or "config"
[19:11] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, wow nice... that's sweet
[19:11] <claptrap> Vigo: Not of the files that were wiped, no. I've got an sbackup of Ubuntu.
[19:11] <erorrs> sometux:if crashes then what should i do?
[19:11] <melodie_> welcome arcaos ! let's know the result !
[19:11] <arcaos> channel is going too fast :)
[19:11] <richthegeek> Gaja: there is a tab/section called "Network" or similar.. Add one
[19:11] <Vhozard> r6xx was better supported than r7xx
[19:11] <Gaja> richthegeek: Nat is activated
[19:11] <sometux> erorrs: uninstall it
[19:11] <scott_ino2> Vhozard, true, but still wasn't very stable at least when i tried it about 4 months ago
[19:11] <erorrs> how?
[19:11] <Oasa> Thanks .. i will try devede... ZykoticK , richthegeek.. any other alternativ ?
[19:11] <richthegeek> Gaja: that's not the same thing...
[19:12] <flipflop_>  there exist any channel for graphic card problems??
[19:12] <richthegeek> Oasa: they all run into the same issue with encoding.. devede is a nice enough GUI
[19:12] <Gaja> richthegeek: one host network is activated
[19:12] <richthegeek> flipflop_: the #compiz channel usually know about that sort of stuff, though they may be a bit haughty
[19:12] <Vigo> claptrap: May take some Forensic Recovery or whatever to attain access to those , have you tried probing it with Wine or some emulator?
[19:12] <richthegeek> Gaja: right... give me a minute to install vbox
[19:12] <erorrs> sometux:how to uninstall from command line?
[19:13] <richthegeek> erorrs: sudo apt-get uninstall [package-name]
[19:13] <ZykoticK9> erorrs, "sudo apt-get remove $PACKAGNAME"
[19:13] <theadmin> erorrs: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[19:13] <sometux> erorrs: still you can run the gui
[19:13] <theadmin> richthegeek: Oh, uninstall? Since when?
[19:13] <claptrap> Vigo: The drive was /formatted./ From NTFS to ext3.
[19:13] <richthegeek> theadmin: sorry, I got confused.. I have two .bashrc aliases for "install" and "uninstall"
[19:14] <theadmin> richthegeek: Hm, i just have an alias for "sudo apt-get" (it's "apt")
[19:14] <Jon-> How do I add an item to the startup [applciations run after login] in 9.10?
[19:14] <richthegeek> theadmin: that also works but I rarely do anything other than install/remove
[19:14] <Oasa> !devede
[19:14] <webdawg> Hey All.  I was following the synergy autostart instructions (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto) and I am having problems.  It work fine except for one thing.  It seems that the Xsession.d script that kills and runs synergy starts synergy too early and makes it so synergy grabs my display resolution too quick.  It results in only one monitor switching.  Is their a way to make this script run AFTER my desktop/display has been fully started?
[19:14] <Brandon_> hi everyone
[19:14] <ZykoticK9> Jon-, System / Preferences / Startup Applications
[19:14] <Oasa> !hi | Brandon
[19:14] <arand> claptrap: Have you looked at "photorec"?
[19:15] <claptrap> arand: Yeah, that recovered a /very/ minimal amount. (16 GB)
[19:15] <skx> How to turn off content caching in Nautilus? Now it files on filesystems that are not even mounted, I would like it to show actual files, existing, available and up-to-date
[19:15] <Vigo> claptrap: Yes, nothing is ever really erased, unless you have access to a huge Electron Magnet and stuff, any data on almost any Magnetic or Digital thing can be recovered.
[19:15] <sometux> need advice about the best desktop recorder?
[19:16] <claptrap> Vigo: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. I don't understand how WINE would be able to access anything on it, though? Unless I'm misunderstanding.
[19:16] <scott_ino2> sometux, i have quite a bit of experience with desktop recorders/screencasts what can i help you with
[19:16] <claptrap> Vigo: I just paid $60 for a new a new 500 GB HDD because it seemed like a full recovery was the only route to go. D:
[19:16] <sometux> scott_ino2: what the best to you on youtube
[19:17] <Vigo> claptrap: That was my error, I thought you stated that it was a or had been a Windows Partition, still active.
[19:17] <scott_ino2> sometux I normally host the videos myself, but depends on what output format you want, length of screencast and sizes you want
[19:17] <AwardedZero> hello room
[19:17] <richthegeek> AwardedZero: an unambitious programmer?
[19:17] <Pepa> Olaa
[19:17] <sometux> scott_ino2: i think of xvidcap
[19:17] <claptrap> Vigo: Ah, yeah, that's what I thought you thought. :p So, my question then: do I need to format the NEW HDD to NTFS in order to recover the old one?
[19:18] <fkm_> Hi and goobye ^^'
[19:18] <scott_ino2> sometux, gtk-recordMyDesktop is very fluid, easy to use and creates high resolutions but large file .ogg.
[19:18] <Vigo> claptrap: From where? I need a new HDD now, mine is failing as we speak.
[19:18] <scott_ino2> sometux, honeslty i never liked xvidcap
[19:18] <Pepa> ai alguien español!
[19:18] <claptrap> Vigo: Best Buy. :o
[19:18] <theadmin> !es | Pepa
[19:18] <scott_ino2> sometux, wink is another application which allows for addition of text as well if you need that, but no audio on the linux version, but works in wine
[19:18] <webdawg> claptrap: you want to recover NTFS data?
[19:18] <xxiao> got a new 1TB, want to share data with windows, vfat is the format I have to use, but what's difference between FAT32(LBA) and Ext'd(LBA) under fdisk?
[19:18] <webdawg> claptrap: on a formatted drive?
[19:18] <Pepa> theadmin!
[19:18] <claptrap> webdawg: The partition that was originally formatted was NTFS, yes.
[19:19] <goodtwist> if a make command fails (in my case a permission error) do you need to clean anything up before trying again?
[19:19] <webdawg> and your formatted it?
[19:19] <claptrap> webdawg: Yeah. It's ext3 now.
[19:19] <Vigo> claptrap: Yes, that was what I had in mind, format it NTFS, then recover whatever blocks you can.
[19:19] <Pepa> Alguien abla in spanish?
[19:19] <xxiao> wish ntfs-write is working well under linux
[19:19] <webdawg> If you did a full format it would overwrite the entire drive right though?
[19:19] <genii> Pepa: /join #ubuntu-es
[19:19] <scott_ino2> xxiao, as far as i know it works just fine
[19:19] <Pepa> genii
[19:19] <claptrap> webdawg: Yeah, the files are deleted. That's what I'm trying to recover. :p
[19:20] <Pepa> GENIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[19:20] <Losha> xxiao: ntfs-3g works very well nowadays....
[19:20] <genii> !es | Pepa
[19:20] <claptrap> Vigo: Do you have any suggestions on the best way to go about that? Just use foremost, or... ?
[19:20] <webdawg> No.  The point is that if you where to overwrite a drive with zeros then the files are gone unless you have a magnetic microscope.
[19:20] <webdawg> If you just changed the partition table it would be different.
[19:20] <Vigo> claptrap: You could even use a Recovery Console, it is possible, but may take more than just a few simple programs to recover any lost data.
[19:20] <arcaos> melodie_: efectively both ways it indicates the file is slightly too big, will have to find another workaround
[19:21] <richthegeek> webdawg: a full format doesn't write the whole disk to zeroes, that'd take too long
[19:21] <arcaos> melodie_: thx anyway
[19:21] <claptrap> webdawg: Well, some of the files have been able to be recovered, so I know there's something there.
[19:21] <theadmin> Hm, i have a weird question.
[19:21] <webdawg> Then you can get some data back if what richthegeek says is true.
[19:21] <Vigo> claptrap: Maybe something like DVD disaster or something along those lines?
[19:21] <webdawg> I would try a 'quick' format then.
[19:21] <webdawg> then use your recovery software.
[19:21] <theadmin> I often get "filesystem mount failed"... And then it drops me to recovery shell... I am able to run fsck trough there and it fixes it... Question is... How can i run something if the root filesystem ain't mounted?!
[19:21] <webdawg> what software are you using?
[19:21] <richthegeek> webdawg: technically, but they wouldn't have any start markers so it'd be a PITA
[19:22] <webdawg> pita?
[19:22] <AwardedZero> i have a question about my desktop i dont really know how it happened but top edge panel has somehow become a side bar. how do i undo this if any one can help please????
[19:22] <sometux> what do you think is the best hypervisor?
[19:22] <xxiao> going to try ntfs-3g, under fdisk there are two NTFS (da db) which one should be used?
[19:22] <genii> webdawg: "pain in the ..."
[19:22] <claptrap> Vigo: Well, my resources are limited, honestly. I don't have a DVD drive, or a USB drive bigger than 128 MB. The new HDD tapped me out.
[19:22] <webdawg> ohh yeh.  truth.
[19:22] <acicula> netboot?
[19:22] <sometux> kvm qemu xen ?
[19:22] <richthegeek> webdawg: pain in the ... posterior
[19:23] <sometux> which is the best kvm qemu xen?
[19:23] <trism> AwardedZero: right click the panel, choose properties, set the orientation back to top
[19:23] <claptrap> So, what should I try then? I don't have Windoze installed atm, Ubuntu is the only OS I have access to. No DVD, basically no USB stick,
[19:23] <theadmin> sometux: As far as i know, kvm is a frontend to qemu
[19:23] <acicula> sometux: google a bit, kvm is a hypervisor module for the linux kernel, qemu is a simulator and xen is a hypervisor with kernel
[19:24] <Vigo> claptrap: No, DVD Disaster is a package in Linux, there are other recovery utilities, many of them, is just a very tough situation that you posed.
[19:24] <zongo> hi guys, just wanted some advice on how to install a 3G usb modem. I used mod_switch but it is not working great. Any ideas ?
[19:24] <mamapapa> hello
[19:24] <mamapapa> i am looking for Chanel of caning plz every body know Any one??
[19:24] <acicula> qemu can use kvm
[19:24] <Nitro`> hello :P
[19:24] <claptrap> Vigo: Ah, I see.
[19:24] <theadmin> mamapapa: "caning", what's that?
[19:24] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, kvm requires CPU virtualization, qemu does not
[19:24] <sometux> acicula: at the end they all do the same job, right!
[19:24] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: ...oh
[19:24] <acicula> sometux: in different ways yes
[19:24] <mamapapa> oups yes sorry
[19:24] <mamapapa> scanning
[19:25] <laron> where can i find firefox plugins aftery they've installed?
[19:25] <theadmin> mamapapa: If you have a question related to Ubuntu in any way, you can ask here.
[19:25] <mamapapa> lik irc.indoirc.net
[19:25] <AwardedZero> tks trism
[19:25] <laron> in the filesystem that is
[19:25] <acicula> laron: about:plugins in the url bar
[19:25] <sometux> acicula: I read about xen and think its the best of all even hyper-v
[19:25] <Vigo> claptrap: An HDD is like a stack of DVDs , basically, kinda depends on the make and model, but it was a shot in the dark to try and assist you.
[19:25] <theadmin> laron: $HOME/.mozilla/plugins i belive
[19:25] <maveas> Is it possible to change the ssl port of 22 to 21 for vsftpd?
[19:25] <mamapapa> ah
[19:25] <mamapapa> non
[19:25] <mamapapa> thanks
[19:25] <acicula> sometux: depends
[19:25] <sometux> acicula: how?
[19:26] <claptrap> Vigo: So do you think that would work better or worse than, say, foremost or testdisk?
[19:26] <richthegeek> Vigo: that is almost the worst analogy I have ever heard....
[19:26] <mamapapa> This is an open sources what questions to be related about it !!!!!
[19:26] <sometux> acicula: i think xen has the best performance
[19:26] <acicula> they all provide virtualization but different approaches/performance
[19:26] <minoritystorm> I came from a RedHat/Fedora world, just exploring Ubuntu and how far did it went, I was wondering if all Ubuntu desktop release is as complicated as karmic. ?
[19:26] <sometux> acicula: as a production system
[19:26] <Vigo> Ok so that was bad, I just re-read it, my apologies
[19:27] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: How do you mean complex? you mean getting codecs for free?
[19:27] <acicula> sometux: i dont use production virtualisation so i cant comment on that, try #xen
[19:27] <webdawg> peace
[19:27] <richthegeek> hey, i have a 64gb SSD arriving on Tuesday and want to move my system partition (home is on a seperate) to it. Do I need to any more than copy/paste and reconfig grub?
[19:27] <Vigo> claptrap: oh wait, I was asking about HDD failure and one of these nice people gave me a great link, one moment,,,
[19:27] <sometux> acicula: offtopic where your from?
[19:27] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: no, I mean opening /boot/grub/grub.conf and finding it a little bit of complicated ?!!!!
[19:28] <justin__> come posso cambiare il tema
[19:28] <justin__> '
[19:28] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: U9.10+ uses Grub2... what are you trying to do?
[19:28] <theadmin> minoritystorm: It's not complicated. If you've used KDE before, it's available in the repositories
[19:28] <claptrap> Vigo: Alright.
[19:28] <laron> how can i enable a firefox extension for new users?
[19:28] <Vigo> claptrap: Maybe this can help: http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
[19:28] <laron> working with /etc/skel
[19:28] <Losha> claptrap: last time I used DVDdisaster, it worked by computing error correcting codes so you could recover damaged data if it occurred later on. It's useless unless you generated error correction data up front, so it totally doesn't apply to your situation...
[19:28] <theadmin> laron: Firefox uses a profiling system. New users will have to install the extensions themselves.
[19:29] <claptrap> Losha: Hello again, Losha! And ah, I see.
[19:29] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: as any innocent linux user, editing passed kernel parameters for example, setting vga..etc :)
[19:29] <justin__> come posso cambiare il tema del mio pc
[19:29] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: try using the "startup-manager" package
[19:29] <acicula> richthegeek: in principle that is all you need to do, dont forget fstab though :)
[19:29] <theadmin> ...What language is that?... (one that justin__ dude speaks right now)
[19:29] <Losha> claptrap: sorry you're still struggling. I still think your best chance is EASUS on windows....
[19:29] <richthegeek> acicula: ah yes, GUIDs -_- :@
[19:29] <acicula> richthegeek: also make sure you copy while preserving permissions and ownerships!!
[19:30] <richthegeek> acicula: what's the cp flag for that?
[19:30] <OerHeks> !it | justin__
[19:30] <theadmin> OerHeks: Thanks.
[19:30] <acicula> richthegeek: p i think, check the man page
[19:30] <claptrap> Losha: It probably is. Problem is, I can't find a good way to install Windows. :p No DVD drive, and a teeny-tiny USB stick.
[19:30] <DarkStar1> This is a question for an fstab expert. The last number/coloumn in the list, does that specify the load order of the partition/device with respect to the others listed?
[19:30] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: should I ?
[19:30] <acicula> DarkStar1: no
[19:30] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: yes
[19:30] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: no manual editing ?
[19:30] <Losha> claptrap: beg or borrow one?
[19:30] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: just run this... "sudo apt-get install startup-manager; sudo startup-manager"
[19:31] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: its startupmanager, no ?
[19:31] <richthegeek> could well be
[19:31] <Vhozard> need some help, should I eat a spoon?
[19:31] <claptrap> Losha: Don't know anyone in the area. :( Haven't been here long.
[19:31] <theadmin> richthegeek: Spaces are important, or else apt-get will pass that semicolon in package name and... epic fail
[19:31] <richthegeek> Vhozard: if you think it might help
[19:31] <Pici> !ot | Vhozard
[19:31] <acicula> DarkStar1: man fstab will desribe the fields
[19:31] <minoritystorm> richthegeek: lollll.... Segmentation fault :D
[19:31] <DarkStar1> acicula: Ey? :-/ what's it for? I just entered the information for a partition and I incremented the number from the last device
[19:31] <Vhozard> ok, thank you
[19:31] <kennyG> hello folks!
[19:32] <acicula> sometux: i dont see why that is relevant
[19:32] <richthegeek> theadmin: really? I thought the ; was a syntax char in bash and would recognise it as such
[19:32] <claptrap> Losha: Do you think that would work from like, VirtualBox?
[19:32] <theadmin> richthegeek: Well, apt-get is kinda stupid sometimes
[19:32] <acicula> DarkStar1:       The  sixth  field,  (fs_passno), is used by the fsck(8) program to determine the order in which filesystem checks are done at reboot time.
[19:32] <kennyG> I need to ask you a few questions about how to exchange from Windows to Ubuntu. Could someone help me please?
[19:32] <sometux> acicula: no problem!
[19:32] <richthegeek> theadmin: nope, that command worked fine. Bash is cleverer than you give it credit for
[19:32] <acicula> DarkStar1: but not as in 1,2,3,4
[19:33] <richthegeek> Minoritystorm: oh dear... there is a wiki article on editing Grub2
[19:33] <Losha> claptrap: been there, tried that. It doesn't. File recovery requires low-level block access to the drive. You generally don't get that from emulators/simulators...
[19:33] <theadmin> richthegeek: Hem, it didn't work on Mint. Weird.
[19:33] <kennyG> I need to ask you a few questions about how to exchange from Windows to Ubuntu. Could someone help me please?
[19:33] <claptrap> Losha: Ah. ><
[19:33] <richthegeek> minoritystorm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:33] <DarkStar1> oh so the new partition should also be 2
[19:33] <richthegeek> theadmin: might use a different terminal emulator by default
[19:34] <theadmin> richthegeek: Modified gnome-terminal. Nevertheless, it still is bash.
[19:34] <xxiao> Losha: is ntfsprogs the right utility to use with ntfs-3g, need format the partition now
[19:34] <acicula> DarkStar1: i did not say that
[19:34] <Losha> claptrap: I can't think of a solution to your problem I'm afraid. You simply don't have enough hardware...
[19:34] <Sp3c1alK> Hi, I'm trying to set a variable equal to the number of times a program is running. I'm using: noipRunning=`ps aux | grep "noip" | wc -l` whihc results $noipRunning as being set to 1, but it should be 2. Anyone know how to fix this?
[19:34] <acicula> DarkStar1: read the man page for fstab if you are doing manual edits
[19:34] <theadmin> xxiao: You need ntfsprogs to format to NTFS, yes.
[19:34] <richthegeek> theadmin: maybe apt has been patched then
[19:35] <claptrap> Losha: Is foremost really that unreliable? )=
[19:35] <xektrum> hello, does anyone knows a backtrack channel ?
[19:35] <theadmin> xxiao: There was a bug in 9.04 however (not sure if it's present in other releases) that would freeze the system when you mkfs.ntfs for large partitions
[19:35] <acicula> xektrum: #backtrack ?
[19:35] <sometux> exit
[19:35] <DarkStar1> acicula: Thanks I just googled the wiki, it should have the value of 0,1,or 2
[19:36] <acicula> DarkStar1: thats correct
[19:36] <xektrum> I think it is not official
[19:36] <xektrum> xD
[19:36] <richRemer> Is there a way to disable or change all of the Alt+_ menu shortcuts in GNOME?  For example, I want to assign Alt+F to find, but GNOME won't let me because Alt+F is already defined for the File menu.
[19:36] <acicula> !ubuntu | xektrum
[19:36] <xektrum> I need to fix my screen resolution on a persistent live usb installation that i have
[19:36] <xxiao> theadmin: thanks. i'm formating 1TB ntfs already, if you see me logout that means my ubuntu freezes
[19:36] <llutz> spc: "pgrep -c <pattern>"
[19:36] <acicula> xektrum: no backtrack support here
[19:36] <Pici> xektrum: #backtrack-linux
[19:36] <acicula> i hear #backtrack-linux  is good though
[19:36] <xektrum> thats it
[19:36] <xxiao> actually not, i'm ssh-to-server and doing that ntfs formating
[19:36] <Losha> claptrap: actually, I confess I've never used foremost. I don't think you've anything to lose by trying it, as long as you only read from the damaged drive and don't try to write to it...
[19:37] <xektrum> thanks Pici
[19:37] <xxiao> theadmin: thanks!
[19:37] <acicula> xxiao: why not format ntfs from windows?
[19:37] <claptrap> Losha: Yeah, that's my plan. It's the only reason I decided to plunk down sixty dollars I don't have on a new HDD. )=
[19:37] <Nollog> Can someone help me connect to a network with Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
[19:37] <acicula> Nollog: what have you tried
[19:37] <xxiao> acicula: it's a remote ubuntu box with 1TB USB hooked
[19:37] <shad0w_crash> Heey anyone knows a place where to ask c++ questions ?
[19:38] <Pici> shad0w_crash: ##c++
[19:38] <Losha> claptrap: I understand....
[19:38] <xxiao> actually I'm thinking about having two partitions, 1TB for a partition maybe too big, plus I can have a vfat just in case
[19:38] <fastputty1> hello
[19:38] <theadmin> acicula: (s)he might have not windows, right?
[19:38] <claptrap> Losha: EASEUS would still need the second HDD anyway, right?
[19:38] <acicula> xxiao: vfat really is only good for small disks
[19:38] <acicula> theadmin: then why would (s)he be formatting ntfs/vfat
[19:38] <Nollog> acicula: I'm not sure what I've tried... I'm currently making a driver for it which is outdated by the ones already on the disk.
[19:39] <Jef91> I need a piece of Linux software that will let me burn a .vob or .avi file to a DVD I can play in a DVD player, suggestions?
[19:39] <seanbrystone> backtrack is pretty good, but keep in mind its based on a pretty old Ubuntu (Intrepid 8.10), not ancient by any means, but still almost 3 releases old (if you count Lucid which is next month)
[19:39] <richthegeek> Jef91: devede
[19:39] <xxiao> acicula: smaller partition will do i guess
[19:39] <acicula> xxiao: correct
[19:39] <erUSUL> Jef91: devede or qdvdauthor
[19:39] <xxiao> acicula: some of my linux box does not have ntfs-3g loaded
[19:39] <fastputty1> someone could tell me how to log to ssh without putting password. I have regen a key priv and pub suing ssh-keygen -t rsa. and put the .pub file in the .ssh/authorized_keys  of the server.. but it still asking me to put password
[19:39] <theadmin> acicula: I have a huge external hard drive, for instance, that i use on both Linux AND windows, but i don't have Windows on this machine, so when i formatted it, i had to format in Linux. Makes sense?
[19:39] <Losha> claptrap: yes, I don't know of any reputable restore program that will restore to the very same drive it's trying to rescue from, if you see what I mean...
[19:39] <acicula> theadmin: you have access to windows
[19:40] <Jef91> Thanks erusul and richthegeek, I tried qdvdquthor and the repo version kept dumping on me going to try devede
[19:40] <xxiao> theadmin: that's what i'm doing
[19:40] <theadmin> acicula: Well, right now i'm dual booting with XP, but back before i couldn't use Windows. Grub1 refused to boot it :/
[19:40] <wolf> does anyone use gcl?
[19:40] <fastputty1>  someone could tell me how to log to ssh without putting password. I have regen a key priv and pub suing ssh-keygen -t rsa. and put the .pub file in the .ssh/authorized_keys  of the server.. but it still asking me to put password
[19:40] <acicula> Nollog: rolling your own drives might not be the best way to get it to work
[19:41] <acicula> Nollog: does iwconfig in a console show a wireless card?
[19:41] <xxiao> these days my family PCs keep getting unremovable malware and I'm persuading everyone to use ubuntu
[19:41] <tomtom2> is there a seperate channel for UEC?
[19:41] <xxiao> they can still do a vmware-xp or something, if malware hits just reload a fresh vmware-xp
[19:41] <seanbrystone> xxiao, that is the best way, good for you , i did the same thing recently :)
[19:41] <Coppered> Hello ...i am running Ubuntu 9.10...  I need to upgrade Thunderbird to 3.0 so it is comptablith with my google calender/blackberry.   Could someone here walk me through the steps of upgrading to Thunderbird 3.0....as it is not included in the Ubuntu Software Center or Synaptic.   Thank you.....
[19:42] <richthegeek> Coppered: download the .tar.gz from the website (UNLESS there is a .deb), make, make install
[19:42] <theadmin> Coppered: I think you'll have to download from Mozilla's site. They have a PPA too. So you can use that. Just a sec.
[19:42] <seanbrystone> xxiao, get sandboxie for that xp-vmware, be 2 times safe, that's a sandbox within a sandbox :)
[19:42] <Nollog> acicula: yea, wifi card even searches for networks and everything. In the default network manager it keeps popping up asing for wpa key (it's 100% correct, I have a text file of it and it works on every other device), but with wicd, it shows the network, I click connect and it authenticates, then when it tries to get an ip it fails after a long time.
[19:42] <xxiao> seanbrystone: when I first saw the malware i did manual removal, regedit,blarblar, caused me two nights, still not fully fixed, now I removed that dual-boot partition for good
[19:42] <Coppered> im  NOOB in all fo this....so what ever is best according to u all is most appreciated. ......holding on you admin.
[19:42] <acicula> Nollog: can you connect via network manager and paste the output of syslog?
[19:42] <Tadys> a
[19:42] <richthegeek> Coppered: scratch that, it runs straight off after extraction
[19:42] <Nollog> syslog?
[19:43] <theadmin> Coppered: Use the PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[19:43] <acicula> /var/log/syslog
[19:43] <Nollog> I think wicd removed the manger
[19:43] <acicula> yeah they arent really compatible
[19:43] <Coppered> hmmm ok going there now....will stay in this room while i do this......
[19:43] <Tadys> hello, how can I update my radeon hd 3400 draivers ?
[19:43] <acicula> i guess trying with wicd works as well, syslog will tell whats going on
[19:43] <acicula> Tadys: update to what?
[19:43] <melodie_> Tadys, go ahead
[19:44] <Tadys> a new version
[19:44] <seanbrystone> xxiao, yeah, well theres a couple linux anti-virus/ rootkit removers i think work on NTFS clamav and rkhunter or something, you can use those to scan the windows drives, but yeah, prolly just better to use xp in a VM
[19:44] <Nollog> It should be in the log from last night anyway, I haven't cleared it.
[19:44] <acicula> why would there be a new version?
[19:44] <xxiao> seanbrystone: i need pay for the sandboxies thing though, why is it better than vm?
[19:44] <seanbrystone> no theres a free version
[19:45] <seanbrystone> not saying its better than a vm, im saying you can use it along WITH the VM for even added paranoia ;)
[19:45] <richthegeek> just noticed something *very* odd.... I ran sudo mysqldump and it started doing the dump before I had entered the sudo password
[19:45] <theadmin> xxiao: Yeah, there is a free release. Also, Avast has... or HAD at least a Linux version to get rid of Windows pests while on Linux
[19:45] <Tadys> becouse know for me now dusnt work gnome effect
[19:45] <theadmin> richthegeek: sudo caches the password for 5 minutes or so
[19:45] <xxiao> theadmin: ok thanks though i rarely trusted those malware-removals
[19:45] <acicula> richthegeek: if you used sudo before in the same session it'll remember
[19:46] <richthegeek> theadmin: yes, it asked me for the password so it required auth
[19:46] <xxiao> mkfs.ntfs runs really slow, need wait to get home and find a windows box to format ntfs i guess
[19:46] <Firus> hi!
[19:46] <shahin> i'm having real problems with flash in ubuntu 9.10. youtube is working fine though. have an old ati radeon 9600 pro. any ideas anyone?
[19:47] <acicula> a VM doesnt make you safer, just lets you trow away "used" systems easier and apply stronger separation
[19:47] <gandhijee> does ubuntu actually read the /etc/Network/Manager/nm-system-settings.conf for network manager?
[19:47] <acicula> gandhijee: hvae you restarted the network manager service?
[19:47] <theadmin> Hm. Is there a emergency shutdown combo? (say, Alt+SysRQ+ R E I S U B is a reboot one)
[19:48]  * xxiao did my best to voice deb (instead of rpm) on the new meego thing these days
[19:48] <acicula> theadmin: from a real console the three finger salute might work
[19:48] <richthegeek> theadmin: you could bind one to a bash script if you wanted
[19:48] <gandhijee> acicula: yes
[19:48] <gandhijee> acicula: i've went as far as restarting the whole machine
[19:48] <theadmin> acicula: You mean the CAD?
[19:48] <acicula> yup
[19:49] <theadmin> ...I thought that's a windows thing...
[19:49] <acicula> gandhijee: then i dont know, it should be at least Network Manager, not Network\Manager
[19:49] <acicula> err without the space even
[19:49] <Nollog> acicula: http://pop.nollog.co.cc/terminal.txt
[19:50] <acicula> Nollog: it doesnt finish associating with the network
[19:50] <Nollog> I wasn't sure where to stop copying...
[19:50] <cinek40> Furahia mwaka mpya!
[19:51] <theadmin> ...what the heck
[19:51] <Coppered> theadmin: i have done as you said and installed the PPA via the proper terminal command.   will i now find Thundbird 3.0 in the Software Center/Synaptic or....what shall i do next?
[19:51]  * richthegeek is now installing 10.04a3
[19:51] <predator_x> hi guys..need ur help...my videos dont stream.. im using mozilla ...
[19:51] <predator_x> what shld i do?
[19:51] <richthegeek> coppered: update first, then it should appear
[19:51] <theadmin> Coppered: You should see it in synaptic. But you should also check for updates.
[19:51] <richthegeek> coppered: sudo apt-get update
[19:51] <Coppered> thank you
[19:51] <acicula> Nollog: this on jaunty?
[19:52] <Nollog> Uh, kraos? ubuntu 9.10 netbook
[19:52] <acicula> Nollog: the last 50 lines probably is enough
[19:52] <acicula> Nollog: open ap, wep or wpa?
[19:52] <gandhijee> acicula: what should be Network Manager?
[19:52] <frankS2> Is there any way for removing pulseaudio for ever and roll back to using only alsa?
[19:53] <blackxored> has someone experienced problems with delicious firefox addon and the "authorize delicious" button for posting bookmarks to twitter????
[19:54] <theadmin> Can someone explain me what on earth does :(){:|:&};: do, actually, step by step, what each symbol means? I just don't know all that good bash syntax. NOTE: THIS STUFF IS DANGEROUS, DO NOT RUN!!!
[19:54] <richthegeek> theadmin: it's a bash fork attack
[19:54] <llutz> theadmin: that is a fork bomb, read wikipedia and man bash
[19:54] <hwilde> Pici, u around ?
[19:54] <sub_pop> forkbombing ftw
[19:54] <Coppered> theadmin & richthegeek: i have executed the update commmand.   it is now best to find Thundbird in Synanptic.....?
[19:54] <tester2010> ciao ;))
[19:55] <llutz> theadmin: explanation here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[19:55] <acicula> theadmin: defines a functin that calls itself?
[19:55] <acicula> and then runs itself
[19:55] <theadmin> llutz: Thanks
[19:55] <erUSUL> theadmin: is a fork bomb you shouldn't be putting it here. : is true in bash basically you create subshells like crazy that only run true or something like that. people over on bash can probably give you the full picture
[19:55] <erUSUL> theadmin: help true
[19:55] <acicula> :() = function def, {} da function, etc
[19:56] <acicula> gandhijee: can you disable N mode on your router
[19:56] <gandhijee> acicula: router doesn't have an N mode
[19:56] <gandhijee> acicula: this actually has to do with network manager trying to manage the wireless interface
[19:57] <gandhijee> and i can't figure out for the life of me how to have NM ignore my wifi
[19:57] <acicula> gandhijee: well networkmanager is the default for that
[19:57] <Coppered> theadmin.....to upgrade Thunderbird....do i have uninstall the prior version first.....?
[19:57] <acicula> gandhijee: right click nm-applet and select disable wireless?
[19:57] <theadmin> Coppered: You'd better. Use Synaptic to find the latest release.
[19:57] <richthegeek> Coppered: you should be able to either update ("sudo update-manager") or "sudo apt-get install thunderbird"
[19:57] <gandhijee> acicula: that means i have to do it everytime
[19:57] <Coppered> may i private message with one of u?
[19:57] <richthegeek> sure
[19:57] <Coppered> i have found T 3.0 in synamptic
[19:58] <acicula> gandhijee: well lets try to get your network working first before worrying about making it permanent
[19:58] <gandhijee> acicula: i want it set up so it just ignores it at boot, and if i want to configure it i can from cmd line/scripts
[19:58] <Coppered> hanks rich will pm u in a moment
[19:58] <gandhijee> acicula: networking is already up
[19:58] <grendal_prime> hey guys i got this 810 box thats being used as a server (it has a crazy big intall footprint as the it people put a desktop on the thing)  Anyway i ran the typical update on the thing and now it has installed lilo?  it also has grub on it...should i uninstall lilo?
[19:58] <gandhijee> acicula: i'm just trying to have it ignore the wifi
[19:59] <acicula> gandhijee: if you configure it statically in /etc/network/interfaces networkmanager will just ignore it
[19:59] <gandhijee> acicula: i guess maybe i don't know how to setup the wireless in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:59] <nigelnigel> i installed clam av in the synaptic manager but cant find it anywhere now
[19:59] <MainGear> Is there someone around with experience on the latest Ubuntu Server, and built in ICH4 fax modems on laptops? I'm having problems with getting mine to work (for use later with HylaFax)
[20:00] <acicula> gandhijee: man interfaces
[20:00] <gandhijee> kk
[20:00] <blackxored> can someone provide a workaround for this? http://imagebin.ca/view/tB4erT.html I can't authorize delicious to post on twitter
[20:00] <nigelnigel> gandhijee my wifi was not working then i installed wicd dont know if that will help, apparently the new ubuntu has some problems with wifi
[20:00] <acicula> nigelnigel: no clamav command?
[20:01] <grendal_prime> lilo vs grub?
[20:01] <linxeh> grub.
[20:01] <acicula> death to lilo
[20:01] <gandhijee> nigelnigel: my problem is that i don't want Network Manager to manager the wifi
[20:01] <gandhijee> FILO ftw
[20:01] <acicula> also grub2
[20:01] <linxeh> lilo was great... 10 years ago
[20:01] <grendal_prime> right but if i remove lilo will the system goot
[20:01] <grendal_prime> boot that is
[20:01] <acicula> grendal_prime: no it wont
[20:01] <grendal_prime> it looks like both are installed
[20:01] <linxeh> do you mean remove the lilo package, or remove the lilo boot loader from your disk ?
[20:01] <acicula> grendal_prime: not unless you are installing another bootloader
[20:01] <grendal_prime> how can apt-allow that
[20:01] <acicula> grendal_prime: there can only be one
[20:02] <mkey> hey
[20:02] <nigelnigel> acicula does it not show as an icon do i have to type it into the terminal im new to linux
[20:02] <gandhijee> KLAB ftw
[20:02] <grendal_prime> aptitude says the are both installed
[20:02] <irvken> my ubuntu box is booting to a initramfs prompt, what can I do to make it boot properly?
[20:02] <acicula> nigelnigel: commandline only
[20:02] <linxeh> acicula: tosh. you can install the packages for as many as you want...
[20:02] <nigelnigel> what command do i type
[20:02] <mathis> hello everyone
[20:02] <abdat> hi all
[20:02] <acicula> linxeh: you can only have one working bootloader tough
[20:02] <nigelnigel> acicula what command do i type and does it enable me to scan the whole comp or only one file at a time
[20:02] <mathis> i just installed kubuntu 9.04
[20:02] <acicula> nigelnigel: read the docs on clamav?
[20:03] <linxeh> acicula: indeed :)
[20:03] <mathis> but i need to view videos in youtube
[20:03] <nigelnigel> acicula no i will
[20:03] <nigelnigel> acicula thanks
[20:03] <mathis> so i need flash player
[20:03] <mathis> can anyone help me?
[20:03] <jamiew> hi gang. I'm running hardy, but it's repository has an older and buggy version of Ruby 1.8.7 -- is there best-practices for upgrading? from source? add karmic as a pkg repository?
[20:03] <nigelnigel> acicula are there no other virus programs that i can just run as an icon
[20:03] <acicula> !virus | nigelnigel:
[20:03] <mathis> how to install flash in kubuntu 9.04
[20:03] <dp> I'm trying to use distcc to help a box speed up compile times.  however, I'm getting exit code 110.  the remote distcc box is an ubuntu box.  anyone know how I should go about setting up ubuntu to work?
[20:04] <hwilde> !flash | mathis
[20:04] <acicula> nigelnigel: clamav is designed to scan mail mostly
[20:04] <acicula> no gui programs
[20:04] <acicula> dp: look up what the error code means
[20:04] <mkey> if anyone has time... root compromised.... users logging in under root...best advice...not staying long...
[20:04] <dp> acicula: it means no compiler
[20:04] <nigelnigel> acicula what does: this do !virus | nigelnigel: im new to irc
[20:04] <dp> on the ubuntu side
[20:04] <abdat> can someone help me i have win7 boot cd on my usb and i want to install it using virtualbox but they dont have the option for it
[20:04] <nmvictor> is their a key binding that substitutes for an enter key?
[20:04] <acicula> dp: well try installing one ;)
[20:04] <Nollog> acicula: WPA2(-PSK) Sorry about the silence from me, I was trying to get a clean sysslog but it doesn't write to it when I use wicd?
[20:04] <dp> acicula: I have one.
[20:05] <DFenz> anybody that has any guidelines for a xubuntu noob like me?
[20:05] <blackxored> can someone provide a workaround for this? http://imagebin.ca/view/tB4erT.html I can't authorize delicious to post on twitter
[20:05] <llutz> mkey: take from net, consider fresh install
[20:05] <acicula> nigelnigel: it tells ubuntu to send you a message
[20:05] <ferdinando> elisa
[20:05] <mathis> thank you for the link, ubottu
[20:05] <irvken> why do i just get initramfs prompt when I boot
[20:05] <acicula> Nollog: i see, but i dont understand your problem, apeparantly wireless works?
[20:05] <TheMozart> when does the latest Ubuntu going to be released?
[20:06] <claptrap> k, I must be doing something stupid. I'm trying to follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Foremost But the "sudo mount" command throws the error: mount point /recovery does not exist
[20:06] <acicula> TheMozart: end of april somewhere
[20:06] <claptrap> What'm I doing wrong?
[20:06] <mathis> april 29
[20:06] <TheMozart> acicula: so its not out yet?
[20:06] <mkey> llutz thanks... thought so but wanted to make sure...bbak when i can
[20:06] <acicula> claptrap: create the directory where you are mounting the voulem
[20:06] <acicula> *volume
[20:06] <acicula> TheMozart: its not out yet
[20:06] <nigelnigel> acicula excellent didnt know there was such a functiion thank you
[20:06] <mathis> lycid lynx will be 10.04 or end of april
[20:06] <TheMozart> the latest Ubuntu isn't released until end of APRIL? you sure?
[20:06] <mathis> positive
[20:06] <claptrap> acicula: I did that; still getting the error.
[20:07] <claptrap> acicula: Unless... hm, sec.
[20:07] <TheMozart> anyone confirm that?
[20:07] <acicula> claptrap: then there is a typo or the directory does not exist
[20:07] <psusi> releases always happen in april and october
[20:07] <acicula> !lucid | TheMozart read here
[20:07] <psusi> hence the version number of 10.04... month 4 of the year 2010
[20:07] <TheMozart> whats the current version? 9.10?
[20:07] <Nollog> acicula: wireless doesn't work, lan does.
[20:07] <psusi> yep
[20:07] <mathis> yes
[20:07] <zongo> how can I know if I am running Ubuntu 64-bit ?
[20:07] <mathis> 9.10
[20:07] <acicula> zongo: uname -a
[20:08] <claptrap> acicula: Ok, so I CD'd to the hard drive containing the directory.
[20:08] <zongo> it tells me x86_64
[20:08] <acicula> Nollog: right
[20:08] <claptrap> acicula: Ew, didn't mean to send that. I think I got it, thanks.
[20:08] <nmvictor> is their a substitue key or key binding for <enter>, my enter key is disfunctional
[20:08] <mathis> goodbye and thanks again for the help ubottu
[20:08] <erUSUL> zongo: 64 bits
[20:08] <hwilde> somebody with network experience please
[20:08] <acicula> Nollog: can you try disabling the N mode on your router?
[20:08] <hwilde> erUSUL, u know anything about pings?
[20:08] <acicula> hwilde: just ask your question
[20:09] <zongo> ok - I actually no idea that I could run 64-bit as well
[20:09] <zongo> because the 32-bit version was running ok
[20:09] <prendin> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu on a new laptop of a friend of mine. I cannot identify my wireless card, can someone help me?
[20:09] <erUSUL> hwilde: make the specific question and we will find out
[20:09] <acicula> the difference for end users is pretty marginal
[20:09] <erUSUL> :)
[20:09] <acicula> prendin: pastebin the output from lspci and we'll tell yu
[20:09] <acicula> *you
[20:09] <hwilde> when I try to ping a host defined my /etc/hosts I cannot ctrl+c to quit the ping
[20:10] <acicula> let it run for a few before trying to ctrl-c
[20:10] <hwilde> I DID.
[20:10] <TheMozart> Ubuntu 10.4 was released in the last week I heard..isnt that true
[20:10] <prendin> acicula: thats the problem, its not showing up in the lspci, will post it, just a sec.
[20:10] <acicula> i hvae the same issue with network progs sometimes
[20:10] <Pici> TheMozart: Its not April 29th yet.
[20:10] <faron> hello again everybody.hopefully somebody can help with this...recently installe the new Firefox 3.6.........now trying to watch craig ferguson's late late show @ http://www.cbs.com/late_night/late_late_show/video/?pid=2OOR7hmktehG6eKoWLSszLfWfc5TwE5P&vs=homepage&play=true           the site doesn't seem to be recognizing that I have the latest version of Flash though.Anybody have any suggestions ?
[20:10] <acicula> prendin: then lsusb while you are at it :)
[20:10] <erUSUL> hwilde: maybe something is capturing the crtl + c ? it is in a plain gnome-terminal ?
[20:10] <TheMozart> Pici: wow, ok... my info was dead wrong :P
[20:10] <theadmin> TheMozart: There is an alpha available. The release date for 10.04 "The Lucid Lynx", however, is April, 29th, 2010
[20:10] <Pici> hwilde: And do you still need me?
[20:10] <hwilde> erUSUL, correct.  and the ^C shows on the screen
[20:10] <TheMozart> theadmin: ok
[20:11] <hwilde> Pici, wonder if you have any insight why I can't quit pings if the host is defined in /etc/hosts and not responding
[20:11] <aeon-ltd> faron: ...............maybe cos upgrading firefox doesn;t upgrade flash
[20:11] <joshuah> what's a good program for taking notes in class?
[20:11] <erUSUL> hwilde: well i see the ^C too but ping stps ...
[20:11] <prendin> acicula: here it is, http://pastie.org/867003
[20:11] <Nollog> How do I start up normal netowrk manager again?
[20:11] <Nollog> uninstalled wicd
[20:11] <kinja-sheep> joshuah: Notepad and a pencil.
[20:12] <stsfanatic> Hey there. I someone familiar with STREAMING VIDEO on www.justin.tv ?
[20:12] <acicula> prendin: output from lsusb, also check in the bios, is your wireless enabled ?
[20:12] <faron> aeon-ltd      I do have version 10+ flash
[20:12] <joshuah> kinja-sheep: that's not a program ;D, plus my handwriting's bad
[20:12] <aeon-ltd> joshuah: if you have a netbook, vim
[20:12] <Pici> hwilde: Sorry, no idea :/
[20:12] <prendin> acicula: I think it is, let me do that command, It was working on ubuntu 8.04
[20:12] <solsTiCe> hi. if i want to install a openvz kernel in ubuntu 9.10. i need the server edition ? i can't do that in my desktop x86_64 ?
[20:12] <acicula> prendin: well its not showing :/
[20:12] <aeon-ltd> faron: in firefox in the add-ons go on plugins click check for updates and mozilla will check for you
[20:12] <kinja-sheep> joshuah: Well, it is a known fact that people LEARN more when they're writing things on papers rather than typing stuffs. :)
[20:12] <acicula> prendin: rfkill switch maybe, paste the output from rfkill ?
[20:13] <joshuah> kinja-sheep: arg, maybe I'll try that then :P
[20:13] <hwilde> erUSUL, Pici acicula    http://paste.ubuntu.com/394217/
[20:13] <prendin> acicula: lsusb http://pastie.org/867007
[20:13] <faron> thanks very much too aeon-ltd
[20:13] <aeon-ltd> faron: oh did it work?
[20:13] <prendin> acicula: rfkill? is there any options for that command?
[20:14] <Losha> joshuah: not to mention the capacity, and superior battery life...
[20:14] <faron> don't know yet my friend
[20:14] <faron> back in a minute
[20:14] <Nollog> 00ts3025
[20:14] <elijah_> hello
[20:14] <joshuah> Losha: haha, though I'd argue in some of my classes my computer would outlast me there
[20:14] <elijah_> can someone help me with audio problems?
[20:14] <seanbrystone> So yesterday i was trying to get Nautilus to open a file in VIM using Open With thingy, someone in here told me to add gnome-terminal -x vim %x, that worked, but somehow the settings didn't set permanently, so does nautilus have a .*rc  or something so i can make it permanent?
[20:15] <elijah_> can someone help with sound problems?
[20:15] <hwilde> !alsa | elijah_
[20:15] <my_haz> how do i make it so that the volume controll box does not come on when i press the volume keys in intrepid?
[20:15] <elijah_> my sounds randomly stopped working
[20:15] <prendin> acicula: I will check my bios, even tough I think its enabled, if I try ifconfig, it says that my card doesnt have any wireless extensions..
[20:15] <acicula> prendin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1234213
[20:16] <hwilde> elijah_, try running alsamixer in a terminal and see if it's muted (press m)
[20:16] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: have you check alsamixer
[20:16] <penocio> how to install a .bin ?
[20:16] <acicula> seems an usb wireless card?
[20:16] <hwilde> penocio, ./ it
[20:16] <acicula> prendin: rfkill list
[20:16] <acicula> will list what wireless devices are blocked
[20:16] <greg_B> hello
[20:16] <erUSUL> hwilde: does this stop the ping (after 10 secs) ??   ---> ping <IP_ADDRESS> & ping_pid=$! ; sleep 10 ; kill -SIGINT $ping_pid
[20:17] <prendin> acicula: shows nothing
[20:17] <sergeykish> Hello, I have "Error NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL" on smbclient connect.
[20:17] <elijah_> i got alsa mixer
[20:17] <blackxored> can someone provide a workaround for this? http://imagebin.ca/view/tB4erT.html I can't authorize delicious to post on twitter
[20:17] <elijah_> it doesnt work
[20:17] <cmecca> hey guys --- whats the equivalent to .Xdefaults today... i know ubuntu doesnt read that
[20:17] <Nollog> ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:17] <acicula> works here
[20:17] <cmecca> id like to change the look/feel of xterm
[20:17] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: what do you mean it doesn't work?
[20:17] <elijah_> ubottu: i got alsa mixer and still doesnt work
[20:17] <acicula> blackxored: seems offtopic for ubuntu
[20:17] <erUSUL> cmecca: .Xdefaults should work
[20:17] <elijah_> the sound isnt working
[20:17] <cmecca> erUSUL: :F
[20:17] <tomm-i> Hi. How do I temporarily increase the font size so that I'm able to see my chats while go to sofa and watch videos at the same time?
[20:17] <acicula> sergeykish: means whatever you were trying did not work
[20:18] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: go to a terminal type alsamixer and make sure all bars are at the max and aren't showing MM
[20:18] <cmecca> erUSUL: does X have to restart?
[20:18] <blackxored> acicula, it doesnt' because I'm running ubuntu and this seems like a xul rendering bug
[20:18] <acicula> prendin: unless you are sure its a pcie device it looks as per the thread i linked that is an usb wireless card
[20:18] <hwilde> erUSUL, ummm yes
[20:18] <cmecca> erUSUL: or can you launch xterms from a new xterm that reads that
[20:18] <sergeykish> acicula: I can't find the probem - reinstalled samba, check few configurations. Always get the same
[20:18] <greg_B> I connect to a shared drive at work through PLACES>Connect to Server>Secure WebDAV, but one file type won't download.
[20:18] <prendin> acicula: can that be an internal usb wireless card?
[20:19] <acicula> prendin: yup
[20:19] <erUSUL> cmecca: either that of you have to run a command to load the file in the Xerver. i forgot what command it is but google should find it in a split second or two :)
[20:19] <elijah_> still doesnt work
[20:19] <prendin> acicula: I see,so that topic you pointed out has some work arounds on this?
[20:19] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: still doesnt work
[20:19] <helo> upgrading a desktop software development system from jaunty to karmic: will it work easily?
[20:19] <greg_B> does anyone have any ideas about why one file type would be "not found" on the network drive?
[20:19] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: what are you using to test sound
[20:20] <greg_B> helo, i've seen many reports saying make a clean install
[20:20] <hwilde> greg_B, is it a windows share?  could be a windows shortcut to some other file
[20:20] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: rythm box
[20:20] <acicula> prendin: i hope so :P
[20:20] <theadmin> Can I somehow delete all files on the hard drive which end in "~"? (those are usually backup files, AFAIK)
[20:20] <prendin> acicula: thats bad :( someone pro like you dont know for sure, im screwed xD
[20:20] <acicula> theadmin: just like any other file?
[20:20] <greg_B> it's a networked drive if i'm on campus; off campus it is a secure WebDAV
[20:21] <acicula> prendin: well pro does not mean omnipresent and allknowing
[20:21] <prendin> acicula: thanks for pointing that out, im going to check it out and maybe comeback here
[20:21] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: and you have check alsamixer properly, and your speakers are properly connected and are 100% working, and rhythmbox isn't muted and the file isn't corrupt
[20:21] <greg_B> i have connected sucessfully without the windows sharing package installed
[20:21] <prendin> acicula: thanks dude =) appreciated
[20:21] <dj_segfault> theadmin: find / -name '*~' -delete
[20:21] <hwilde> erUSUL, Pici, acicula        http://paste.ubuntu.com/394217/    <-- weird huh?
[20:21] <ubuntu_> elo wszystikim
[20:22] <theadmin> dj_segfault: Woah, that find thing is powerful %)
[20:22] <acicula> hwilde: i have similar behaviour
[20:22] <acicula> if a program does netowkr stuff that is
[20:22] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: yeah everything was working yesterday, and sound works on my other os
[20:22] <greg_B> i can download pdfs, docs, even ods files, but odt files are "not found"
[20:23] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: all volume controls checked?
[20:23] <jayvir> hi
[20:23] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: ypu
[20:23] <elijah_> *yup
[20:23] <kristian_> i've just created a .html file and opened it in firefox, it contains only the english alphabeth + 3 norwegian letters (æøå) which normally displayes fine when i view a norwegian online newspaper, but for someone reason it does not display correctly when i open a local .html file, any idea of what package i need to get? running ubuntu 9.04 (english).
[20:23] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: did you perform any updates/changes to the system?
[20:23] <theadmin> greg_B: Did you by any chance do something like "chmod -R 000 *.odt"?
[20:23] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: no
[20:23] <elena70> hola
[20:24] <greg_B> no, i've done no terminal commands regarding that folder
[20:24] <prendin> acicula: dude, I just got his laptop documentation, it seems its a Mini-card pci-e wireless device.
[20:24] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: my friend was playing saurbraten on my computer and after it was messed
[20:24] <elena70> alguienhabla español?
[20:24] <prendin> acicula: does that means something to you?
[20:24] <theadmin> greg_B: I'd still check the permissions of those .odt files if i were you... Well, if not that, then no idea
[20:24] <elena70> alguien habla español?
[20:24] <theadmin> !es | elena70
[20:25] <elena70> gracias
[20:25] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: do you use any other sound system e.g like OSS?
[20:25] <Wazzzaaa> Hi, I want to send mail from a bash script. Would you advice to install exim4?
[20:25] <greg_B> windows box did not have the problem--does windows deal with permissions the same way?
[20:25] <acicula> prendin: check the bios if its enabled
[20:25] <elena70> pero hablo poco ingles?
[20:25] <prendin> acicula: k, brb
[20:25] <elena70> pero hablo poco ingles
[20:25] <acicula> !es
[20:25] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: before i just used the one that came with the computer/ os
[20:25] <faron> aeon-ltd still there ?...I'm sorry my friend gonna have to go for now but I AM indeed being told that I do need to update shockwave flash........BUT.I thought for sure that I had the latest version !.In fact.....I am almost certain
[20:26] <theadmin> greg_B: Windows _has_ no permissions. Everyone can access everything. I belive.
[20:26] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: oh and on wine programs the sound works
[20:26] <grendal_prime> hey guys...i just upgraded an awfully bloated subversion server and the mysql server is now bitching this...  Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[20:26] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: does youtube on firefox work?
[20:26] <elena70> hola ruben
[20:26] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: Does here.
[20:26] <grendal_prime> my question is if i uninstall mysql im not going to ace the data right?
[20:26] <greg_B> OK.  I'll look at those permissions.  You expect they're different?
[20:26] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: it never has, internet problem
[20:26] <theadmin> !ops | someone tell elena70 to stop this
[20:26] <elena70> hello
[20:26] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: because if it works in wine it sounds more like a rhythmbox problem
[20:27] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: how about mplayer? any sound from any video player?
[20:27] <acicula> grendal_prime: well it shouldnt but it doesnt hurt to dump your database and back it up first
[20:27] <gnomefreak> elena70: may i help you?
[20:27] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: it doesnt work on linus games though
[20:27] <elena70> ok thanks
[20:27] <jkhjkjkhk> привет
[20:27] <elijah_> aeon-ltd|: linux**
[20:27] <elena70> no thank you
[20:27] <jpds> !ru | jkhjkjkhk
[20:27] <grendal_prime>  I can reinstall the binarys and the data will remain (im using apt to do this)
[20:27] <acicula> grendal_prime: rather then relying on that there are no conversion differences between db versions
[20:27] <mneptok> elena70: do you have a support question?
[20:27] <Nollog> acicula: G only, unprotected setup, and still no connection.
[20:27] <elena70> what is your name?
[20:27] <elena70> no
[20:27] <theadmin> jkhjkjkhk: Здравствуйте. Увы, здесь канал на английском. Зайдите в #ubuntu-ru для русской поддержки
[20:28] <mneptok> elena70: then please leave this channel.
[20:28] <gnomefreak> elena70: if you do not have a support question or helping people with support questions please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:28] <acicula> Nollog: intel 4695agn right?
[20:28] <Traxxer> anyone knows why my wubi-installer is downloading a ubuntu9.10 desktopamd64.iso via torrent while i started the installation from cd.. actually i dont even have 64bit
[20:28] <elena70> you are bored
[20:28] <grendal_prime> acicula: ya, that would have been nice...i was under the impression that they had backed up the entire box. (vmware)  before we started this..but aparently not
[20:28] <elena70> hello ruben
[20:28] <mneptok> elena70: stop.
[20:28] <Nollog> acicula: yupp
[20:28] <grendal_prime> now the dbserver will not start soooo its kinda difficult to dump it
[20:28]  * gnomefreak watching still
[20:28] <elena70> silence
[20:29] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: it doesn't work on any linux apps
[20:29] <greg_B> forgive my noobidity, but how shall i terminal those files on the shared drive?
[20:29] <seanbrystone> whats a good scanning software for Ubuntu, I want to scan documents and stuff. I have the Dell A920
[20:29] <Nollog> I'm uploading some syslog
[20:29] <acicula> grendal_prime: so start the db , dump the data anyway
[20:29] <theadmin> gnomefreak: Thanks... Gotta go now though :D
[20:29] <acicula> Nollog: did you pastebin the output from syslog yet, i got you confused earlier with someone else here
[20:29] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: the games are most likely not built with ALSA integration and re-install rhythmbox see if anything happens with a fresh install, .
[20:29] <Nollog> acicula: pop.nollog.co.cc/syslog.txt
[20:30] <Nollog> firefox runs slow on this, so I just upload it to my server
[20:30] <p0e> hello there... having an issue with a .sh file I wrote to change my wallpaper and using it with 9.1, worked fine in .04.. i'm a total noob
[20:30] <grendal_prime> acicula: the db wont start
[20:30] <Nollog> acicula: http://pop.nollog.co.cc/syslog.txt
[20:30] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: nothing works with sound, video player, internet, rythmbox etc
[20:30] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: wait. don't in ubuntu there should be a setting to set what mixer to output to the speakers make sure all of them are set to alsa
[20:30] <grendal_prime> it errors on start up...
[20:30] <nh2> is there an equivalent to autorun.inf on windows? I would like to run a shell script on usb stick insertion
[20:31] <Nollog> Says something about the driver not letting it auth?
[20:31] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: got it, thanks
[20:31] <acicula> grendal_prime: :/
[20:31] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: did it work?
[20:31] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: i just started fooling around with my sound drivers and now its working, adios
[20:31] <acicula> Nollog: can you try with network-manager?
[20:31] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: thanks for your gelp
[20:31] <Nollog> acicula: I did.
[20:31] <greg_B> The network people on campus thought it could be a browser plugin, because the windows machines get to the shared drive by the open as web folder dialog in IE.
[20:31] <elijah_> aeon-ltd: help*
[20:31] <aeon-ltd> elijah_: your welcome
[20:31] <p0e> anyone out there mind giving me a hand?
[20:31] <Nollog> I had to restart to get it back
[20:32] <Traxxer> anyone knows why my wubi-installer is downloading a ubuntu9.10 desktopamd64.iso via torrent while i started the installation from cd.. actually i dont even have 64bit
[20:32] <acicula> hmm, then i dont know why its not working for you
[20:32] <ph8> is the facebook plugin for pidgin in karmic apt broken?
[20:32] <acicula> maybe there is something in the wifidocs im overlooking
[20:32] <acicula> !wifi
[20:32] <aeon-ltd> p0e: whats the problem? and for future reference just post the question instead of asking permission to
[20:32] <greg_B> GNOME cannot determine permissions.   I do not know how to direct the terminal to the shared drive.
[20:32] <nmvictor> is their a keyboard shortcut for <enter>, I am using an iBook
[20:33] <faron> aeon-ltd here's a quick ? b4 I have go.....seems u might no a bit about upgrades/fire ?............after doing this upgrade I went looking around @ the addons I had installed & I noticed that Noscript & ubunt firefox modifications under the extensions tab had been disabled byt the new version upon install & informs me that these 2 extensions are not5 compatible with the new FF........Do you have any advice fro me regarding this ?
[20:33] <linxeh> nmvictor: how about "enter" ?
[20:33] <p0e> the problem is that under 9.04 the *sh file ran, and in 9.10 it doesnt. i have a crontab up to run it every minutes... i think the directory for the wallpaper has changed with 9.1
[20:33] <ZykoticK9> ph8, you don't need the plugin anymore, there is a way to setup Facebook using Jabber now.
[20:33] <perlsyntax> What would be good for ssh tunneling on ubuntu 9.10?
[20:33] <MainGear> !modem
[20:33] <acicula> perlsyntax: ssh
[20:33] <greg_B> does the "connect to server" dialog under PLACES use the gvfs package?
[20:33] <perlsyntax> that all i need.
[20:33] <ph8> ah i remember, thanks ZykoticK9
[20:33] <acicula> yes
[20:34] <Nollog> acicula: Well, I did google for a good half a day and everyone else with a similar problem either updated their kernel to a version lower than mine, but higher than theirs, or got no replies.
[20:34] <zongo> is the "force-architecture" in "dpkg" forcing the install of a 32-bit onto a 64-bit machine ?
[20:34] <perlsyntax> How can i just use ssh for all my internet.
[20:34] <greg_B> I can't seem to get any information.
[20:34] <aeon-ltd> faron: if it doesn't support it you can force it to but the stability might not be great, generally its best to wait for the devs to update it
[20:34] <acicula> perlsyntax: were not here to jailbreak your internet connection ;)
[20:34] <jreb_> quick question, attempting to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 using alternate install cd, it refuses to install w/o a network connection......is it now not possible to upgrade w/o a network connection? My connection, while not as slow as dialup, still ain't that good, would take at least 24 hours to download everything..........I'd rather break the downloads up into smaller sessions if possible
[20:34] <perlsyntax> i never said that.
[20:35] <perlsyntax> i just want to be safe online that all.
[20:35] <perlsyntax> :P
[20:35] <wng-> Does anyone have any tips on resolving this bug on 9.04? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/275152 - can i just compile a new version of the driver from source and install it? or will that not work on 9.04, i cannot upgrade to 9.10 at this time
[20:35] <faron> let me ask this........aeon-ltd....... would those 2 things.......................
[20:35] <acicula> a tunnel wont help you there
[20:35] <zongo> I am trying to install adove reader and from what I read I have to use dpkg -i force-architecture
[20:35] <aeon-ltd> p0e: did you upgrade normally or wipe and install?
[20:35] <faron> possibly interfere with any browsing ?
[20:35] <zongo> I was just trying to understand what that was doing exactly
[20:35] <acicula> Nollog: recheck the wifi troubleshooting list is all i got, from what i found on google it should work
[20:35] <Nollog> wifi troubleshooting list?
[20:36] <acicula> !wifi | Nollog
[20:36] <greg_B> how does one change permissions on a mounted disk through secure webdav?
[20:36] <p0e> I had this program working fine with 9.04, then formatted, installed 9.04 from USB and then upgraded.
[20:36] <aeon-ltd> faron: not sure never forced a addon before
[20:36] <jwaters> anyone have apple.com/trailers working, HD ones pop quicktime required
[20:36] <acicula> zongo: man <packagename> will tell you what an option does
[20:36] <faron> aeon-ltd- I mean if I just left them alone like I've been doinbg ?
[20:36] <MainGear> Followin the guide on community/DialupModemHowto/AlsaModem the modem cannot detect rings (when there's a incoming call), and I can't get my modem to work well using community/DialupModemHowto/Smartlink - anyone with experience on this?
[20:36] <aeon-ltd> p0e: user permissions might not be set correctly so its not that its not working, its that it can't
[20:37] <greg_B> how does one change permissions on a folder on a disk mounted through secure webdav?
[20:37] <faron> cuz I've been having a couple of issues since upgrade aeon-ltd
[20:37] <zongo> thanks
[20:37] <p0e> i followed the instructions the same as i did when i set it up under 9.04
[20:37] <aeon-ltd> faron: just no-script?, unlikely it would just do what its designed to do, block scripts on pages
[20:37] <p0e> are wallpapers stored in a different directory in .10? the sh file has gconftool-2 -t str --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename but i'm not seeing any /desktop to go into
[20:37] <acicula> jwaters: it doesnt work, which is a problem caused by apple unfortunatly
[20:38] <greg_B> how does one change permissions for files in a folder mounted as a disk through secure webdav?
[20:38] <aeon-ltd> p0e: i don't use ubuntu, but you can check, just browse around in nautilus till you find the wallpaper dir.
[20:38] <acicula> does webdav even allow modifying permissions greg_B ?
[20:38] <p0e> i did, /usr/share/wallpapers.. i think i'm just going tot ry another route to setting this up
[20:38] <p0e> modifying the SH file for that directory accomplishes nothing btw
[20:39] <greg_B> i don't know--it's been sgguested that i try it.
[20:39] <cmecca> does ubuntu 9.10 no longer support pcf fonts? i cant get them to work.. even though i can view the ones i installed in xfontsel
[20:39] <Nollog> acicula: I had ti running fine on a laptop two days ago, can I get the windows driver and make it work for linux? I read something about that but I have no idea how to do it.
[20:39] <Nollog> it*
[20:39] <acicula> Nollog: in some instances that does work
[20:39] <aeon-ltd> p0e: do you mind sending a link to me for this guide?
[20:39] <acicula> Nollog: what changed?
[20:39] <acicula> running the windows driver is not really recommended though
[20:39] <p0e> http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/pipermail/blug/2007-April/002295.html
[20:39] <Nollog> I took it out of my laptop and put it in a nettop. :p
[20:40] <acicula> well maybe its just ubuntu netbook that doesnt support it yet, idunno, never dealt with that
[20:41] <p0e> the only deviation i made from the instructions (and the first time I set it up) was I set up the crontab before i ran chmod
[20:41] <Nollog> Does the netbook version cut out stuff?
[20:41] <greg_B> acicula: that is why i'm trying to find out, but your question makes me wonder whether it's possible--and if it isn't, that's not my underlying problem
[20:41] <aeon-ltd> p0e: you needed to run chmod first, if you set cron to run the script without adding executable rights to it it won't run
[20:42] <p0e> how do i remove it from crontab -l
[20:42] <acicula> p0e: crontab -e
[20:42] <jrib>  p0e unless you're talking to someone in particular, this channel has a 0-line memory
[20:42] <faron> see I'm wondering if  even though noscript is supposedly disabled if it might still be interfering/it might be the cause of  my flash not beeing recognized.1 reason I say this is the way I had it set up {noscript} I had to click on a noscript icon within the flashplayer itself in order for the player to work aeon-ltd
[20:42] <p0e> hmm?
[20:43] <acicula> Nollog: well yeah it does, but most importantly its not exactly the same as ubuntu as far as i know
[20:43] <Sj4m35-15> is there a way to trim down ubuntu?
[20:43] <greg_B> Ok.  I'll try again later.
[20:43] <jrib> !minimal | Sj4m35-15
[20:43] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: short of disk space?
[20:43] <aeon-ltd> faron: it won't interfere if its disabled, definitly
[20:43] <Sj4m35-15> i already have mint installed.
[20:43] <Sj4m35-15> Losha: yes
[20:43] <jrib> !mintsupport | Sj4m35-15
[20:44] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: so how much space do you have to play with?
[20:44] <aeon-ltd> p0e: i have no idea. don't use cron, but i reccommend reading the man pages of crontab
[20:44] <faron> hmmmmmWell now then I wonder why  my flash is not being seen
[20:44] <p0e> aeon: yeh i'm just going to go another route, thanks for the help
[20:44] <acicula> faron: check if its seen by firefox, use about:plugins in the url bar
[20:45] <acicula> if not then install the flashplugin?
[20:45] <faron> 'I'm certain I do have the latest version
[20:45] <faron>  already done
[20:45] <Sj4m35-15> Losha: 'bout 8GB
[20:45] <aeon-ltd> p0e: found it crontab -e, then just delete the lines. chmod it and rewrite those lines.
[20:46] <Sj4m35-15> it's installed on a cf-28 toughbook.
[20:46] <faron> it's being seen but it is telling me it needs update & FF even installed ANOTHER adobe flash too
[20:46] <aeon-ltd> faron: crap solution, but did you restart
[20:46] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: that's enough for ubuntu. A fairly full install would take about 5G. You can do it in far less if need be...
[20:47] <maveas> Uhm.  Is yours not working?
[20:48] <acicula> hello ANTONELA
[20:48] <maveas> How do I access the logs? :S
[20:48] <ANTONELA> hello
[20:48] <Sj4m35-15> Losha: I want to use the icewm and wdm managers.
[20:48] <ANTONELA> ablais español
[20:48] <Losha> maveas: look in /var/log...
[20:48] <Sj4m35-15> Losha: how can i accomplish this?
[20:48] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: we cant support mint here
[20:48] <ANTONELA> hello
[20:48] <serverduck> Can someone tell me where do i find an answer of why my ubuntu could not shut down? it only works manual as in button :)
[20:49] <acicula> serverduck: syslog may provide someinsights
[20:49] <iOllie> Hellooo
[20:49] <faron> yeah aeon-ltd I'm looking at  addons right now & after new version install..........I now have shockflash 10.0 r45 AND shoclflash 0.4.12
[20:49] <serverduck> acicula, thank you very much but what file in syslog more exactly?
[20:49] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: my ubuntu question is how do i change window managers?
[20:49] <faron> weird
[20:49] <acicula> serverduck: /var/log/syslog
[20:49] <arand> How do I replace compiz/metacity from tty?
[20:49] <jrib> Sj4m35-15: install the package for the window manager and select it at the login screen
[20:49] <acicula> arand: you cant replace window managers from tty
[20:50] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: sorry, but to get an answer in here you must pretend you are using Ubuntu...
[20:50] <acicula> from a pts console will work though?
[20:50] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: can i also change the login sceens?
[20:50] <Zagrophyte> Does anyone have any experience with iwatch and/or email notifications on directory changes? iwatch seems to require an entire postfix server and I just want to send a freaking smtp email to my existing server
[20:50] <maveas> Thanks Losha
[20:50] <aeon-ltd> faron: you should just have shockwave flash 10.0 r45
[20:50] <Sj4m35-15> Losha: i'm using one.
[20:50] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: gdm is responsible for starting wms/desktop environments
[20:50] <dalailamer> Do someone know if i can send popup message to someone on my wlan connected ? i want to scare my neighbour
[20:50] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: can i also change the login manager?
[20:51] <aeon-ltd> serverduck: what WM/DE?
[20:51] <coldhost>  (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[20:51] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: for kdm/xdm yeah
[20:51] <jrib> !register > coldhost
[20:51] <coldhost> anyone has any idea how to register in this irc server?
[20:51] <acicula> maybe others, but best to google howto customize those things
[20:51] <serverduck> acicula, i'm a beginner user don't know exactly what to look for and some things from the log sounds chinese yet to me.
[20:51] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: i'm trying to do a complete strip down of ubuntu.
[20:51] <coldhost> thx
[20:51] <faron> yeah aeon-ltd that's what I had until after the upgrade of Firefox
[20:51] <serverduck> aeon-ltd, i didn't understand the question
[20:52] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: that's alright then (rolls eyes). Have you tried just doing sudo apt-get install icewm wdm ?
[20:52] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: thats cool, but that will require some work
[20:52] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: like a minimal system.
[20:52] <jrib> Sj4m35-15: it's easier to start from the minimal install and build up
[20:52] <acicula> serverduck: im sorry what problem were you trying to fix again?
[20:52] <Losha> Sj4m35-15: what jrib said...
[20:53] <aeon-ltd> serverduck: what WindowManager/DesktopEnvironment
[20:53] <Sj4m35-15> jrib: i already have the damn thing installed.
[20:53] <kristian_> i've created a .html file which contains text in norwegian which contains 3 "special" letters (æøå), when i open the .html file with firefox the letters won't display correctly. if i open a http://vg.no, which is a norwegian newspaper then the letters display perfect, so for some reason firefox can not display the 3 letters when i open the .html file localy. im running ubuntu 9.04 (english). does anyone know how i can solve this proble
[20:53] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: stripping beyond removing unused packages will quickly break a system, consider a distribution more suited for what you want?
[20:53] <purpleidea> hi, does someone know how to force apt to ignore an unmet dependency? in the aim of working around: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msmtp/+bug/525375
[20:53] <serverduck> acicula,  well i wanted to turn off my laptop because i had to go to work and it would't turn of...the ubuntu logo white was staying on my black screen
[20:53] <jrib> Sj4m35-15: so what?  Install takes like 15 minutes
[20:53] <acicula> serverduck: ah right
[20:53] <acicula> serverduck: does suspend or hibernate work?
[20:53] <serverduck> acicula, and i want to know why it failed to shut down and how to fix it...so in the future i will not have this problem again
[20:53] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: ok...let me rephrase the "ubuntu" question again.
[20:53] <jrib> purpleidea: use equivs or rebuild the package in question.  I didn't click your bug but make sure you know what you are doing...
[20:54] <serverduck> acicula, didn't tried..only logout
[20:54] <serverduck> acicula, logout works
[20:54] <acicula> serverduck: can you try?
[20:54] <purpleidea> jrib: i read about equivs, however i wasn't too sure how to get this going.
[20:54] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: how can i boot an .iso image using the grub menu?
[20:54] <serverduck> acicula, shure i will be right back with an answer
[20:54] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: you can not boot an iso file directly from grub
[20:55] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: what kind of medium can i boot from the grub menu?
[20:55] <purpleidea> jrib: it seems "obsolete"
[20:55] <jrib> purpleidea: why do you want msmtp-gnome?
[20:55] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: well thats not entirely true, its possible to boot an iso fs i suppose but is never used and quite impractical
[20:55] <purpleidea> jrib: to send my root emails out, etc...
[20:55] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: to boot you need a kernel and a root file system the kernel has filesystem drivers for
[20:56] <jrib> purpleidea: so just install msmtp or ssmtp
[20:56] <acicula> and an init program for the kernel to run
[20:56] <acicula> the linux kernel anyway
[20:56] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: may i recommend you have a look at www.linuxfromscratch.org
[20:56] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: can i boot a cd-rom from grub?
[20:56] <purpleidea> jrib: currently using ssmtp, but wanted to use msmtp-gnome for the keyring support
[20:56] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: hmm, probably not
[20:56] <purpleidea> plus ssmtp is dead an unmaintaned.
[20:56] <acicula> Sj4m35-15: why would you want to, you can just boot the cd straight from the bios
[20:57] <dijital1> is there a way to set a different wallpaper for each display?
[20:57] <jrib> purpleidea: if I were in your shoes, I would see what's the current status of msmtp upstream, in lucid, and then based on that information possibly decide to rebuild the source package with updated dependencies.
[20:57] <jrib> !source > purpleidea
[20:57] <dijital1> gnome seems to want to split the wallpaper choice across both windows
[20:57] <acicula> dijital1: if you have expaned your display to multiple screens then you have to make a custom wallpaper
[20:57] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: that's the problem i can't boot from bios.
[20:57] <arand> acicula: metacity DISPLAY :0 --replace &disown did it perfectly, lucky I got lynx installed :)
[20:58] <acicula> arand: cool, i did not know that  :)
[20:58] <Sj4m35-15> acicula: it's an cf-28 toughbook.
[20:58] <dijital1> acicula: ok
[20:58] <purpleidea> jrib: i do know about apt-get source, thanks :)
[20:58] <grempus> guys what is the proper way to use static DNS servers in Ubuntu 9.10 Server?
[20:59] <purpleidea> jrib: i'll check that out... i have no problem building from source, but i'm not super familiar in rebuilding and making packages...
[21:00] <Sj4m35-15> how can i do an install without the cd-rom or usb device?
[21:00] <jrib> purpleidea: that's what the link is for.  Note it's a good idea to do « dch -i » (increment the version number) and append something like "~purpleidea1" to the version string when you make your own changes to a package
[21:00] <guntbert> grempus: modify /etc/resolv.conf ?
[21:00] <grempus> it gets overwritten
[21:00] <marsje> What do I do to get a Debian server to start xfce4 at boot with automatic login?
[21:00] <jrib> marsje: #debian for debian support
[21:00] <kristian_> i've created a .html file which contains text in norwegian which contains 3 "special" letters (æøå), when i open the .html file with firefox the letters won't display correctly. if i open a http://vg.no, which is a norwegian newspaper then the letters display perfect, so for some reason firefox can not display the 3 letters when i open the .html file localy. im running ubuntu 9.04 (english). does anyone know how i can solve this proble
[21:00] <purpleidea> jrib: okay i'll check it out more... cheers
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[21:01] <Jordan_U> Sj4m35-15: Only if the iso support s being booted from a file.
[21:01] <serverduck> acicula,  did you get my message?
[21:01] <marsje> What do I do to get a Ubuntu server to start xfce4 at boot with automatic login?
[21:01] <guntbert> grempus: overwritten? by what?
[21:01] <lullabud> kristian_: you need to define your doctype
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Marsje: if you wanted a desktop, why did you install server?
[21:01] <grempus> I don't know
[21:01]  * marsje is really using an Ubuntu server, butthe folks in #ubuntu-server don't respond..
[21:01] <grempus> it just gets changed back to blank after a while
[21:02] <grempus> I guess some process is doing it
[21:02] <marsje> ActionParsnip: I want a server but some server-like app requires X
[21:02] <lullabud> kristian_: er, not doctype, content type.
[21:02] <guntbert> !who | grempus
[21:02] <serverduck> acicula,  and i have a tray icon i have never seen before says something like session active not inhibited screen idle..if you see this text your display server is broken
[21:02] <lullabud> in the head, you can put something like this : <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
[21:02] <grempus> guntbert: sorry
[21:02] <marsje> ActionParsnip: it needs to run 24/7, fully automatic, no monitor connected to it
[21:02] <grempus> guntbert: I'm not sure what is overwriting it, it just happens occasionally
[21:02] <guntbert> grempus: np - only I may miss your answers :-)
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Marsje: then install desktop, you haven't got anything extra by installing a desktop on the server install
[21:03] <guntbert> grempus: are you using dhcp?
[21:03] <grempus> guntbert: no, in interfaces I have it specified as static
[21:03] <ferdinando> lezioni di vita
[21:03] <epaphus> hello.......  when I edit properties in the Remote Deskptop control panel... what exact file in /etc does that edit?
[21:03] <Akkernight> how to boot up a WinXP to install as partition on my currently Ubuntu laptop
[21:03] <guntbert> grempus: strange - please ask in #ubuntu-server - or read https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/networking.html
[21:04] <grempus> Akkernight: there isn't a particularly easy way to do that since Windows doesn't recognize ext partitions
[21:04] <Akkernight> grempus: I can't even boot the WinXP cd?
[21:04] <grempus> Akkernight: you can boot it
[21:05] <yoyoned> Akkernight: maybe you could just run windows in ubuntu using virtualbox?
[21:05] <bsod1> how can I install win7 on virtualbox ose in ubuntu 9.10? I got a weird error message in Windows files extracting part..
[21:05] <grempus> Akkernight: but when you install it, it will ignore your Linux partitions
[21:05] <acicula> back again, sorry, battery decided it had done its duty
[21:05] <grempus> Akkernight: and it won't keep your boot manager
[21:05] <grempus> guntbert: ahhh thanks fixed it I think
[21:05] <Akkernight> grempus: I only need to play one game, Mortal Online, and that's it :P a VM can't handle that
[21:06] <Akkernight> grempus: won't keep GRUB 2?
[21:06] <guntbert> bsod1: try #vbox ( or ##windows) please
[21:06] <grempus> Akkernight: indeed. Although VirtualBox is adding DirectX support now
[21:06] <yoyoned> Akkernight: if you wnat to dual boot with windows, windows should be installed first
[21:06] <guntbert> grempus: care to tell me how you fixed it?
[21:06] <Akkernight> yoyoned: well, that's too late
[21:07] <grempus> guntbert: I think I had an error in my interfaces file
[21:07] <grempus> at least it didn't quite look like the one on that page you linked to guntbert
[21:07] <Blackice115> Anyone know of a chat room for linux nubs?
[21:08] <grempus> guntbert: it usually blank out after a couple hours so I'll let you know
[21:08] <jeeves_Moss> can anyone here give me sudgestions on how to repair a server that's coming up with "wrong kernel for CPU"?  I have a server sitting @ a site location with UNTRAINED staff that I need them to repair to remotley
[21:08] <Akkernight> so GRUB 2 can't boot the WinXP?
[21:08] <guntbert> grempus: ah - that would explain it ... sometimes small differences play big roles
[21:08] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: what ubuntu version?  Did it ever work?
[21:08] <lullabud> Akkernight: grub2 can boot winxp.
[21:08] <Stargaze> Akkernight, maybe this is relevant => http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=132936
[21:08] <lullabud> Akkernight: are you just trying to install windows on your computer alongside ubuntu?
[21:08] <grempus> guntbert: thanks! now I can ping google lol
[21:08] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: Is it a 32 bit machine?
[21:09] <guntbert> grempus: np - have fun :)
[21:09] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, I think it's 8.1, and yes, it was working fine untill some one "rebooted" it.  It's a 23 bit system running a celeron M CPU
[21:09] <melodie_> how do you get a grub legacy on ubuntu actually ? (let's say Jaunty)
[21:09] <Akkernight> lullabud: yes
[21:09] <serverduck> what is this "session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gnome.org/......"
[21:09] <piersi_7> ola
[21:09] <kristian_> lullabud: thanks i will give it a shot, didn't think about that. ;-)
[21:09] <Jordan_U> melodie_: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[21:09] <marreco> teste
[21:09] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: is that the actual message verbatim?
[21:09] <lullabud> Akkernight: use gparted to resize your existing partitions, leave a big blanks space.
[21:09] <piersi_7> hello
[21:09] <Linuxero_Novato2> buenas noches a todos
[21:09] <melodie_> Jordan_U, trial-boot
[21:09] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, we've tried booting from a live CD and trying to reinstall the new kernel, but accorsding to the staff, it dosn't work.  So, I need a solid plan on how to give them a "step by step" answer
[21:09] <piersi_7> buenas noches
[21:10] <lullabud> boot winxp cd, create a partition in the blank space, install
[21:10] <melodie_> I don't try I did it but I got rid of grub on ubuntu
[21:10] <Stargaze> !es| Linuxero_Novato2
[21:10] <jeeves_Moss> jreb_, one sec, I'll get thier e-mail
[21:10] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: did you tell them to check if older kernels are available at the grub prompt?
[21:10] <Linuxero_Novato2> thanks
[21:10] <melodie_> Jordan_U, I would have liked to have grub 1 on the Ubuntu partition to make a nice chainloader, additionnally I would have liked  it with a grub splash
[21:11] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, yes, I tried to get them to do that, and they said the grub menu dosn't come up.  (personally, I think thats a "load" of BS)
[21:11] <Elchgeweih1980> hallo zusammen
[21:11] <Jordan_U> melodie_: Why grub legacy specifically?
[21:11] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: even pressing ESCAPE?
[21:11] <Only`speak`engli> http://www.e-castig.com/index.php?r=HzkN win free laptop or iphone!
[21:11] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: Tell them to hold shift during boot.
[21:11] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, apparently.  one sec, and I'll pastebin the e-mail
[21:11] <lullabud> kristian_: that should do the trick.  i just did a bunch of chinese, korean and japanese php code and that worked for all of what i was doing.
[21:12] <jrib> Jordan_U: if it's 8.10, it's using older grub
[21:12] <Akkernight> lullabud: I have a ext4 partition and a extended... What should I do?
[21:12] <seanbrystone> Are there any good OCR programs for Ubuntu? Ive tried gocr-tk , ocrad, Tesseract OCR, but the text is all mangled up
[21:12] <Jordan_U> jrib: Ahh, missed that it was 8.10.
[21:12] <melodie_> Jordan_U, exactly
[21:12] <jrib> Jordan_U: though he said "think", so that may not be a bad thing to try
[21:12] <lullabud> Akkernight: if there's no empty space, just resize down your ext4 partition.  leave about 20+gb for windows.
[21:12] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/1836013
[21:12] <rlopez12> hello, I'm looking for a better photo manager than F-Spot, anyone?
[21:12] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/1836013
[21:12] <Jordan_U> 13:03 < Akkernight> how to boot up a WinXP to install as partition on my currently Ubuntu laptop
[21:13] <melodie_> rlopez12, so do I
[21:13] <ekce> rlopez12, picasa is worth a try
[21:13] <seanbrystone> rlopez12, have you tried Picasa? (not sure if its in the repos though)
[21:13] <lullabud> rlopez12: doesn't picasa have a native app in linux that's pretty good?
[21:13] <serverduck> what is this "session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gnome.org/......"
[21:13] <ekce> haha :D
[21:13] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: what happens if they use an i386 disk?
[21:13] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, apparently, they had tried using a 32bit disk and tried to recover the system
[21:13] <Akkernight> lullabud: I can't just resize... It won't let me and doesn't that mean I'd loose data
[21:14] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: also "bantu" doesn't insipre me with great confidence
[21:14] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, lol, neither do I, but I kinda need this box up and running.
[21:14] <lullabud> Akkernight: yeah, if it's not letting you resize then you can't do it from where you're at without losing data.  you may have to boot to the ubuntu livecd so that the partitions aren't mounted.
[21:14] <kristian_> lullabud: thanks it worked! :-)
[21:14] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, I was in the middle of doing a remote rsync of ~160Gb of data over the past month
[21:14] <lullabud> Akkernight: you can't resize mounted partitions, and if gparted is running from the partition you're resizing it won't let you umount that
[21:15] <lullabud> kristian_: awesome :)
[21:15] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: The default download for Ubuntu server is 64 bit give them a direct link to the correct iso.
[21:15] <rlopez12> ekce: I've tried it, but it's just the windows version using wine.
[21:15] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, I know this is a 32bit system (it's actully the manager's old laptop, and it's a celeron-M CPU)
[21:15] <mneptok> jeeves_Moss: "kernal?"
[21:16] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: Yes, but they downloaded the wrong "bantu" iso.
[21:16] <jeeves_Moss> mneptok, lol, I know, I know.  they're accountants, not IT people
[21:16] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: So give them a direct link to the 32 bit version.
[21:17] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, do you have a link to the correct ISO?  and once they've got that, what are the steps to get her running on the right kernel?
[21:17] <mneptok> jeeves_Moss: then they should not be installing the system. go on-site.
[21:17] <acicula> celeron-M, as in the stripped version of a dotham mobile ?
[21:17] <seanbrystone> Are there any good OCR programs for Ubuntu? Ive tried gocr-tk , ocrad, Tesseract OCR, but the text is all mangled up
[21:17] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, lol, it's a laptop.  Don't ask.  their old DL380G1 died, and I was scrambling for parts
[21:17] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I don't think it's possible that the wrong kernel is installed now that I think of it...
[21:18] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, I had found a "howto" for repair,
[21:18] <jrib> seanbrystone: that's all I know of
[21:18] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: i think the 20th century just called and are demanding their hardware back :)
[21:18] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: if it does over 800 it should work ok, but does it have enough mem still?
[21:18] <llutz> seanbrystone: vuescan has ocr-feature, not sure how good it is
[21:18] <seanbrystone> jrib, ok well maybe it's just a setting that I need to poke around in, thanks.
[21:18] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, lol, I've got the old DL380G1 propping up the LCD screen on the end of my bench @ the shop
[21:18] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, the laptop that's there right now is a 1.6 with 4Gb of RAM
[21:18] <preposteruss> you want you the partition that will be mounted as / to be primary, and not logical correct?
[21:19] <seanbrystone> llutz its not in the repos ill see if theres a .deb or something thanks :)
[21:19] <llutz> seanbrystone: non free soft, hamrick.com
[21:19] <seanbrystone> k thanks
[21:19] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: oh thats not a dotham oldie then, thats not even halfbad
[21:19] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, lol, and the DL380G1 is a dual 950Mhz, 4gb of RAM, and 4x36.6Gb 15K SCSI disks
[21:19] <lullabud> seanbrystone: evernote OCR's your pictures that you add to it...
[21:19] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I don't see how they could possibly install a 64 bit kernel. Can you have them boot *without any CD in the drive at all* and take a picture of the error message?
[21:20] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: that celeron may just as well run a 64bit kernel
[21:20] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: If you really don't trust them tell them to have the tray open and visable in the picture :)
[21:20] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, I know it's a 32bit box.
[21:20] <acicula> the dual 950Mhz or the celron?
[21:20] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, lol, or just fly to Traverse city Michigan and do it myself!
[21:21] <jeeves_Moss> the one that's hooped and needs to be up is the celeron, and I KNOW it's a 32bit install!
[21:21] <chrispitzer> I look at localhost:8000 a lot as I develop sites on my ubuntu machine.  I want to access subdomains of localhost now... and I just want all subdomains to work - i don't want to have to enter records for **every** subdomain
[21:21] <seanbrystone> lullabud, ok ill try evernote too, i already have an account with them too :)
[21:21] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: pretty sure the proc can handle 64bit though
[21:21] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I think the real error when booting from the hard drive has nothing to do with 32 vs 64 bit. I think they are just confusing the message from the liveCD with the one from the hard drive.
[21:21] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: what are you trying to do anyway?
[21:22] <red> does anyone know if using NFS Network shares work over internet?
[21:22] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, the "error msg" is what comes up after tey rebooted it (for some strange reason concidering it had been running fine for the past 2 years)
[21:22] <red> or just locally?
[21:22] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: whats the error?
[21:22] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, I'm trying to rescue the system
[21:22] <andai> I installed xubuntu on an external USB hdd. I can boot it from my internal drive's grub but its own grub won't load. How do I reinstall it?
[21:22] <jeeves_Moss> http://pastebin.ca/1836013
[21:22] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, http://pastebin.ca/1836013
[21:22] <acicula> red: they work over the internet just fine
[21:22] <acicula> red: its not recommended or safe however
[21:23] <joaojeronimo> Hi guys, does anyone of you know tomcat's location in Ubuntu Server 9.10 ? Is it /usr/share/tomcat6 ?
[21:23] <PFA> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 <-- i'm trying to follow this guide to set up a home network between my laptop and a windows machine. however, the two machines are on the same router so they share the same IP address. is that a problem? also, will this configuration share things through the router (local intranet) instead of the internet? the purpose of this connection is supposed to be to send files between the two machines without using up
[21:23] <PFA>  our bandwidth (we have a bandwidth cap) so it needs to go over the router...
[21:23] <acicula> joaojeronimo: its spread across several locations, use dpkg-query -S or -L <packagename> to find out
[21:23] <joaojeronimo> thanks acicula :)
[21:23] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I don't think that it's worth troubleshooting further untill you see a picture of the laptop with its CD tray open and the *real* error on the screen.
[21:24] <richthegeek> !grub | andai
[21:24] <acicula> PFA local network traffic stays local so doesnt add
[21:24] <richthegeek> !grub2 | andai
[21:24] <PFA> acicula: wht?
[21:24] <PFA> what*
[21:24] <andai> ty
[21:24] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, can't I just get them to boot from a 32bit live CD, replace the kernel with the proper "detected" one (preferably from the live on-line repo, then get them to reboot it?
[21:24] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: imnottechsupport, whats the hardware error :P
[21:25] <yoyoned> PFA: the two machines shouldn't have the same ip.  if you are using a internet tool to check your ip it will show the ip if the router, not the machine]
[21:25] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, I think it's an "I" "D" ten "t" error
[21:25] <joaojeronimo> has anyone installed Hamachi in Ubuntu Server successfully ? I installed it and it runs fine, no errors... but it logs out almost every 5 minutes...
[21:25] <PFA> yoyoned: so how do i find out my computer's IP? and again, will this share traffic through the router :T
[21:25] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I don't think the problem is with the kernel at all frankly, and I want to see the current state of things before they do who knows what in /boot
[21:25] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: hehe
[21:26] <PFA> uh not traffic, files, sorry
[21:26] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, well, my options are limited.  you know how accountants are.
[21:26] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: You can't get them to take one picture with the CD tray open?
[21:26] <serverduck> what is this "session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gnome.org/......"
[21:26] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I think it would clear things up a *lot*
[21:27] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, I can't even get them to rotate the damn 2.5" USB backup drive!
[21:27] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: without the error when booting from the hd there is really no telling what is wrong
[21:27] <guntbert> PFA: on your windows machine type in the commandline: ipconfig and on the ubuntu machine you type ifconfig
[21:27] <aurorixi> ola
[21:27] <yoyoned> PFA: the trafic will not go through the router.  I don't have a clue how to check the IP address on windos.  in ubuntu right click on network manager and select connection information
[21:27] <aurorixi> hello
[21:27] <komputes> How can I get gnome to arrange desktop icons on the right side instead of the left side?
[21:27] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, I know there is nothing in the drive or plugged into it.  this error the bean counter is reporting is actully the error on the screen
[21:28] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: How do you know there is nothing in the CDROM drive?
[21:28] <xangua> !hi | aurorixi
[21:28] <jeeves_Moss> they're not that stupid, and I asked them
[21:28] <aurorixi> hi
[21:28] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: then somehow it switched to 64bit ?
[21:29] <seanbrystone> lullabud, I tried Evernote for the OCR but im not seeing a setting for it. What do i do?
[21:29] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, I have no idea.  as I said, I'm not impressed they friggen rebooted it
[21:29] <ash30> Hi everybody! I have a problem with some usb device recognition (Acer Aspire laptop) in 9.10, which slows down the whole system a lot. Where should I ask for help? What to do?
[21:29] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: im not sure 32bit ubuntu will even install a 64bit kernel if you ask it too
[21:29] <acicula> someones been doing something, heh
[21:30] <winXPuser> how do I install Gnome in Kubuntu?
[21:30] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, well, if we reinstall a 32bit kernel, it won't break anything, right?
[21:30] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: well not likely no
[21:30] <xangua> winXPuser: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:30] <guntbert> winXPuser: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:30] <serverduck> what is this "session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gnome.org/......"
[21:30] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, well, if it gets the damn system off the ground, and I can shell into it, then I'm FURTHER ahead than I am now, correct?
[21:31] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: yes
[21:31] <alessandro_> ciaoooooooooooooooo
[21:31] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: cram in a bootcd and chroot into the system and run some updates and fix the kernel?
[21:31] <seanbrystone> !it | alessandro_
[21:31] <jeeves_Moss> acicula, ok, so, I'll get them to d-load/burn the i686x32 disk, then what's the next step once it boots?
[21:31] <acicula> jeeves_Moss: chrooting into the system
[21:31] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: If port forewarding is already setup I say have them boot the liveCD, run "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" and do the rest yourself.
[21:31] <alessandro_> list
[21:31] <acicula> well mount the essentials first
[21:32] <acicula> yeah Jordan_U 's idea is even better
[21:32] <guntbert> !list | alessandro_
[21:32] <serverduck> what is this "session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gnome.org/......"
[21:32] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, true, I just need "remote control" over the box.  Everything as far as ports, etc are set up.
[21:32] <alessandro_> !list
[21:32] <Jordan_U> jeeves_Moss: I can also make you a GRUB2 boot CD that will list all of the installed kernels with a menu to choose between them.
[21:32] <Brandon__> does any Ubuntu Greek chat exists?
[21:32] <jeeves_Moss> Jordan_U, I forget, how do I get them into shell again from the boot?
[21:33] <serverduck> My hibernate suspend and shutdown don't work...what do i do now?:D
[21:33] <Jordan_U> !terminal | jeeves_Moss