[03:37] <Warbo> Grisen: If you have a seperate boot partition then your GRUB entries should look very different. You sure you did it automatically (in which case, no boot partition is made)
[03:37] <g0real> I will right now. Thanks !
[03:37] <jf> hello
[03:37] <Grisen> Yes pretty sure lacking knowledge to do differently
[03:37] <jf> Oh great, finally got this to work at least :)
[03:37] <jojoman> So, does anyone know how to remove a boot sector virus? Or can give me a link for some help?
[03:37] <Grisen> boot partition is for win98-- the usual one and resides on a with win98
[03:37] <g0real> boot sector virus ?
[03:38] <jf> I'm new to ubuntu (and linux in general)
[03:38] <g0real> Win98 ?
[03:38] <g0real> jf: welcome
[03:38] <Warbo> Grisen: If GRUB is coming up then it is probably on hda. That can be fixed, but GRUB needs to boot before Win98, so that is why I said you may need to make a GRUB floppy (just "sudo grub-install /dev/fd0" when you are in Ubuntu)
[03:38] <Ronz> boot sector virus?
[03:38] <Ronz> haven't heard of them in a while. =)
[03:38] <g0real> IF you are in WIndows or DOS, a "FDISK /MBR" will bo it
[03:38] <g0real> will do it
[03:38] <Ronz> jojoman, or do a search for the program active@killdisk
[03:38] <Grisen> Okay, so I get to ubuntu using the commands you gave, then I make a grub floppy from Ubuntu command line
[03:38] <Ronz> or killdisk
[03:38] <jf> I have a question, I am using Xubuntu...I was installing updates and somehow my interface got screwed up a little and I can't get it back how it was...I lost my "taskbar" and such...
[03:38] <jojoman> Ronz I have that
[03:38] <Grisen> How does a person get to command line in Linux
[03:39] <Ronz> jojoman, did ya run it?
[03:39] <g0real> maybe even using fdisk on Linux will work... anyone ?
[03:39] <Warbo> !tell Grisen about cli
[03:39] <Grisen> I've played with the live cd but dont see an option for command line
[03:39] <sethk> Grisen, there is a "terminal" program on the accessory menu
[03:39] <Warbo> Grisen: Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[03:39] <HazemMohamed> n #eglug
[03:39] <Ronz> jojoman, and when you do run it, make sure you set bios back to default afterward
[03:39] <jojoman> Ronz: yes I did and it told me I have a boot sector viurs
[03:39] <g0real> Grisen: KDE or GNOME ?
[03:39] <eric___> Say - what's the channel for off-topic ubuntu questions?
[03:39] <g0real> Grisen: you want "konsole" or "xterm"
[03:40] <Grisen> okay-- maybe should just use the live CD and create a grub diskette?
[03:40] <Warbo> !tell eric___ about offtopic
[03:40] <Ronz> jojoman, and it didn't do all zero's?
[03:40] <sethk> Grisen, that works, I have one box I boot that way.
[03:40] <Grisen> GNOME
[03:40] <sethk> Grisen, for gnome you want gnome-terminal
[03:40] <eric___> Warbo: Right - about Ubuntu, but not a support issue.
[03:40] <sethk> Grisen, which is called "terminal" on the menu but the name of the program is gnome-terminal
[03:40] <Warbo> Grisen: That may help yes. The most important thing would be Ubuntu CD's ability to tell you which drives are which (that is confusing me, and may be the problem)
[03:40] <Grisen> I am happy to boot to linux from floppy, want to learn it and leave Windoze
[03:41] <jojoman> Ronz: I chose the 1 pass random and I did it one more time to make shure and it still told me I had boot sector virus
[03:41] <eric___> Warbo: So, what channel should I use?
[03:41] <Grisen> Can I ask grub here on the other machine and tell you?
[03:41] <Warbo> eric___: "Ubuntu support" covers quite a large base. Offtopic is usually full of football and Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy, so ask Ubuntu stuff in here :)
[03:42] <sethk> Grisen, I don't understand the question
[03:42] <Ronz> jojoman, have you tried to fdisk the hard drive?
[03:42] <isede> i want to delete file from the NTFS partition (i cannot do it from windows bec it's a virus dll that runs with windows explorer), but it seems that i can mount it only for reading. is there any way to write to the ntfs?
[03:42] <eric___> Warbo: OK, then.  I was wondering if anything official has been said about what features are anticipated for edgy, v 6.10?
[03:42] <Grisen> Warbo wants to know which drive of the two Ubuntu sees as Win98 and which as Ubuntu and where it sees grub
[03:42] <move> hello
[03:42] <move> can someone tell me how to burn an ISO from console?
[03:42] <TokenBad> move you can't use k3b?
[03:42] <move> more specifically, the newest Desktop Ubuntu ISO from the Server Ubuntu console
[03:43] <sethk> isede, writing to ntfs is unsafe.  what you need to do is boot the XP install cd and go into repair mode
[03:43] <jojoman> Ronz: it does nothing when I type in the termal "fdisk -l
[03:43] <sethk> isede, it's possible to use wine to write to ntfs, but it isn't a good idea for your problem
[03:43] <move> TokenBad: is k3b for console?
[03:43] <isede> sethk: i don't have a CD
[03:43] <Warbo> eric___: I usually go by the "Edgy Ideas" pages in the WIki and look for MattZimmerman's replies (like "This is already implemented" and stuff). Also there are some developers' pages with their own ideas (like MattZimmerman's ) and they have implementation notices
[03:43] <Ronz> jojoman, try fdisk /dev/hda1 or whatever the drive is
[03:43] <sethk> isede, then probably you'll have a repair option on the windows boot menu
[03:43] <Ronz> err, fdisk /dev/hda
[03:44] <isede> sethk: what is the worst that can happen?
[03:44] <isede> i mean, if i do write the ntfs
[03:44] <sethk> isede, if you write to ntfs?  you could lose all the files in the ntfs partition
[03:44] <eric___> Warbo: Do you know if compiz and/or glx is better integrated so I can spin windows around and such?
[03:44] <sethk> isede, you can, of course, back those files up to a linux partition, which is only reading.
[03:44] <Warbo> Grisen: Running an Ubuntu LiveCD on the 98 computer, then goping in System>Administration>Disks should tell you where each drive and partition is
[03:45] <sethk> isede, but there is a repair mode for windows.  At some point you press R to get into repair mode.  you'll get a terminal and you'll be able to delete that file.
[03:45] <jojoman> Ronz: It says unable to open
[03:45] <isede> sethk: i heard that knoppix lets you write to ntfs, how does it do that?
[03:45] <orbin> jojoman: sudo fdisk -l
[03:45] <Warbo> eric___: I believe it is going to be included as decent packages (getting rid of any custom scripts and stuff) but I am not sure whether it will be installed by default
[03:45] <sethk> isede, any linux can do it.  but it isn't safe.  I didn't say it wasn't possible.  it's a kernel option and any linux can enable it.
[03:45] <sethk> isede, usually requires a kernel rebuild, however.
[03:45] <TokenBad> move I am not sure what you mean by console...you mean in terminal?
[03:46] <isede> sethk: thank you
[03:46] <sethk> isede, I would consider it to be a very last resort
[03:46] <erus`> are the forums down?
[03:46] <erus`> www.ubuntuforums.com
[03:46] <p01n7> org
[03:46] <Grisen> Warbo, I've looked at system, administration, disks-- will go there and come back, okay?
[03:46] <erus`> back now
[03:46] <orbin> erus`: work fine here
[03:47] <move> TokenBad: Yes, terminal
[03:47] <Warbo> Grisen: Sure (you know, GAIM is included on the CD so you can chat in here from within the CD. I am doing that now :) )
[03:48] <TokenBad> move, you not have gui?
[03:48] <move> TokenBad: you should really look up the word console if you don't know what it means
[03:48] <Grisen> Okay, Ill try GAIM tho I am a noob to chat too.  I do know my way around a windoze box
[03:48] <TokenBad> console could mean a couple things...thats why asked
[03:49] <move> does anyone know how to burn ISOs in console?
[03:49] <Grisen> Booting live CD......
[03:49] <jojoman> Orbin: it says it doesnt contian a valid partition table
[03:49] <move> TokenBad: usually when people are in #ubuntu on a computer, they mean the kind of console you see... on a computer
[03:49] <erus`> gah glx wont work... :( how do i completely remove fglrx?
[03:49] <TokenBad> well for your answer...try cdw
[03:49] <TokenBad> console version
[03:50] <TokenBad> but I think when someone is trying to help you could be a little more civil..
[03:50] <TokenBad> cdw - Tool for burning CD's - console version
[03:50] <Grisen> Warbo, was sickened by MSoft's decision to drop 98 users, learned about it 10 days before drop dead date
[03:50] <TokenBad> its in apt-get
[03:50] <orbin> jojoman: i'm deferring to Ronz  ... only reason i piped up is b/c i knew fdisk needed a sudo in front
[03:50] <orbin> sorry
[03:50] <Grisen> That was the last straw for me...
[03:50] <farous> !webcam
[03:50] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:51] <Grisen> Immediately went to Firefox and Tbird
[03:51] <Ronz> =)
[03:51] <Warbo> Grisen: You weren't using them already :)
[03:51] <Grisen> Had to find new firewall to replace zonealarm
[03:52] <Grisen> And these two machines have worked beautifully on a wireless network
[03:52] <jojoman> ronz: orbin: i figured it out thanx!
[03:52] <Grisen> Okay here comes the cd
[03:52] <J2D2> what proggie can i use to stream my cam, not camserv though. Something with a gui
[03:52] <Ronz> np jojo
[03:52] <InstantlyKarmic> hows everyone doin 2nite
[03:53] <Grisen> No I was a happy captive M$oft user
[03:53] <erus`> How can i completely remove fglrx from my system please?
[03:53] <Grisen> Okay disks manager is up
[03:53] <BHSPitMonkey> erus`?
[03:53] <BHSPitMonkey> I thought open source was a sin. you said.
[03:53] <erus`> ye but
[03:53] <erus`> ye
[03:54] <orbin> Ronz:  what was wrong exactly?  how did looking at his PT help?
[03:54] <erus`> i need xgl to work
[03:54] <Grisen> First, hard disk 18.65 gig
[03:54] <Grisen> Warbo /dev/hda
[03:54] <erus`> please answer my question ^
[03:54] <Grisen> partitions
[03:54] <Ronz> orbin, he had a problem with a boot sector virus. did 2 random passes, and it was still there
[03:55] <nullifx> how do i get miniwin and dock plugins to enable in compiz?  the tabs are in gset-compiz but are greyed out
[03:55] <Grisen> 1
[03:55] <Grisen> windows virtual fat
[03:55] <orbin> Ronz: random pass?  (never had a BSV)
[03:55] <Cornellius> nullifx: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:55] <Grisen> status inaccessible
[03:55] <Grisen> click enable-- no change
[03:55] <TooBazz> In mandriva how to you access software other then whats on your installation cd's?
[03:56] <nullifx> ah thanks
[03:56] <Grisen> hard disk 7.8 gig
[03:56] <TokenBad> move that work for you?
[03:56] <Ronz> orbin, there are few ways of perminantly destroying data on a hard drive. one way is changing every bit to a 0. another way to do it is to to do random bits, and scramble the information
[03:56] <Grisen> device dev/hdb
[03:56] <Grisen> extended 3
[03:56] <orbin> Ronz: ah, ok.  thanks for the info.
[03:56] <Ronz> =)
[03:56] <Grisen> access path none
[03:56] <Grisen> status inaccessible
[03:56] <Cornellius> Got difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529.
[03:57] <Grisen> click enable - no change (inaccessible)
[03:57] <TooBazz> In mandriva how to you access software other then whats on your installation cd's?
[03:57] <move> TokenBad: I can't find the name of the cdw package
[03:57] <move> TokenBad: sudo apt-get install cdw doesn't work and I can't seem to find it on google
[03:57] <Grisen> Does this help?  I know there was something graphic with partition info also last time
[03:57] <orbin> TooBazz: er, wrong channel?
[03:57] <g0real> TooBazz: madriva questions in an ubuntu channel ???
[03:58] <TooBazz> You people are more intelligent.
[03:58] <Artan1s> TooBazz:  I know, thank you.
[03:58] <Grisen> Warbo?
[03:58] <g0real> TooBazz: anyway, your answer is called "urpmi", google it
[03:58] <TooBazz> ta
[03:58] <TokenBad> move, you have all your repositories set? cause its in mine
[03:59] <move> TokenBad: nope, I don't know how to do that from console
[03:59] <g0real> TooBazz: I used to be a Mandriva user myself. Not anymore
[03:59] <xtom_____> hello
[03:59] <move> !cdw
[03:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about cdw - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:59] <Grisen> WARBO gnome partition editor
[03:59] <move> !cd
[03:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about cd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:59] <move> !burning
[03:59] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[03:59] <g0real> what is cdw ?
[03:59] <TooBazz> Why not mandriva anymore?
[03:59] <mikomiko> hello, my sounds has gone to no where after upgrade
[04:00] <xtom_____> does anybody know how to connect to this channel irc://thelinuxlink.net/techshow
[04:00] <mikomiko> how do i turn it back
[04:00] <move> cdrecord
[04:00] <move> there we go
[04:00] <move> guess all I really needed was a boy
[04:00] <move> bot*
[04:00] <g0real> TooBazz: Because it was a pain maintaining up to date. The ubuntu/kubuntu community is more active.
[04:00] <dura> How do I get apt to upgrade the kernel-image?
[04:00] <g0real> TooBazz: I actually use Kubuntu
[04:00] <Grisen> Warbo /dev/hda1 7.87gig-- looks like win98 isn't set to use the whole drive (!)
[04:00] <Cornellius> Got difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529  <-- Something about ''xlibs''
[04:00] <TooBazz> why is it a pain?
[04:01] <Grisen> warbo /dev/hda1 has orange triangle with ! in it
[04:01] <g0real> TooBazz: because of your same question "how do you access software other that..."
[04:01] <Grisen> flags:  boot lba
[04:01] <g0real> TooBazz: I find that ubuntu's adept package manager and .deb packages are better
[04:02] <TooBazz> ok
[04:02] <Konstable> what is the shell command to display Ubuntu version?
[04:02] <Grisen> unallocated 10.78 gig-- must have happened when in used Acronis to rescue 98
[04:02] <TooBazz> bummer
[04:02] <g0real> Konstable: uname -a
[04:02] <TooBazz> i like mandriva...didnt know the packmanager sucked
[04:02] <g0real> TooBazz: No no no, it doesn't suck. I actually like it.
[04:02] <Konstable> g0real: That just shows the Kernel version.  Not the Ubuntu itself.
[04:02] <reck> help , please, I installed ubuntu in my laptop, but when i start, nothing happens only a message uncompressing linux... ok, booting the kernel.
[04:03] <g0real> TooBazz: And mandriva's drakconf is very good (wish ubunutu had something similar)
[04:03] <Grisen> Warbo that's the only device GParted shows (where is B with Ubuntu on it??)
[04:03] <Grisen> No here is b
[04:03] <g0real> TooBazz: It's just the available packages. THe size of the ubuntu community is larger, so more people contribute
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[04:03] <orbin> Konstable: lsb_releas -a or cat /etc/issue
[04:03] <dura> Anyone?
[04:04] <orbin> *lsb_release
[04:04] <g0real> TooBazz: Also Mandriva is a company
[04:04] <TooBazz> ok thanks
[04:04] <dura> How do I tell apt to install a new kernel image?
[04:04] <TooBazz> yeah i think ubuntu will be a company soon too
[04:04] <Grisen> Warbo /dev/hdb1 7.51GB
[04:04] <g0real> TooBazz: so it has a smaller staff
[04:04] <Konstable> orbin: ah, thanks
[04:04] <orbin> yw
[04:04] <Grisen> ext3 used 1.93 GB
[04:05] <orbin> dura: sudo aptitude install <kernel_image_package>
[04:05] <g0real> TooBazz: but Mandriva controls too much... Again it's userbase and up-to-date packages that made it for me
[04:05] <Grisen> Flags: boot
[04:05] <JoseGosdin> Hi, my name is Jose Gosdin and I am starting a Christian Ubuntu version. If you would like to help out please join #christianubuntu or if you have any spare time, please digg our submission at http://digg.com/linux_unix/Jesus_Linux_Ubuntu_Christian_Edition Thank you for your support. :)
[04:05] <TooBazz> ok
[04:05] <orbin> dura: do an apt search for linux-image
[04:05] <dura> orbin: When I do apt-get upgrade it tells me the kernel-images has been kept back.
[04:05] <dura> -s
[04:05] <regeya> a...christian...operating system.
[04:05] <danf_1979> to execute a script in /etc/init.d/ is not as easy as just placing the script in there?
[04:05] <g0real> Mayeb someone here can help me with this one: as root on the console I can't open an X window
[04:05] <Grisen> Warbo /dev/hdb2 rcyrnfrf 368.68MB
[04:05] <Warbo> Grisen: That looks like /
[04:05] <J2D2> yeah...i'm christian, but why start a christian os?
[04:06] <g0real> Where are the root's permission set to access the :0.0 display ?
[04:06] <Warbo> Grisen: hdb2 looks like swap
[04:06] <skullripper> how do i know the speed of a proccesor in linux
[04:06] <regeya> JoseGosdin: are you adding in christian-themed art?  removing the nekkid people?  I'm very curious .
[04:06] <Grisen> Under that /dev/hdb5 linux-swap 368.65 mb
[04:06] <orbin> dura: i'm not sure.  i think it's waiting for other packages to be upgraded first before it can.
[04:06] <Grisen> Warbo THAT's It
[04:06] <dura> orbin: It tells me: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-server
[04:06] <orbin> skullripper: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:06] <dura> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[04:07] <ed1t> k i just installed xubuntu and the installer didnt create the swap partition
[04:07] <dura> No other packages...
[04:07] <JoseGosdin> regeya, I have outlined changes we would like to make at http://www.christianubuntu.com/ and on my comment to our digg submission at http://digg.com/linux_unix/Jesus_Linux_Ubuntu_Christian_Edition
[04:07] <skullripper> orbin, thanks
[04:07] <TokenBad> move, you see my private msg's?
[04:07] <Grisen> So how do I make this linux wannabe box boot and act friendly?  ;-)
[04:07] <Cornellius> Got difficulties lauching some applications here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19529  <-- Something about ''xlibs''. Work as a normal user, not as root.
[04:07] <Warbo> Grisen: is it possible that hdb2 is /boot? If so that would be why grub wasn't working
[04:07] <regeya> aye, I'll take a look JoseGosdin ...thanks
[04:07] <g0real> JoseGOsdin: I am very curious about what you don't like of the standard distro
[04:07] <dura> Cornellius: Why are you trying to run X as root?
[04:08] <Grisen> looking
[04:08] <dura> Cornellius: Don't do that... not wise.
[04:08] <dura> use your user.
[04:08] <Cornellius> dura: Dude, I only did sudo in a terminal
[04:08] <Warbo> Grisen: Mount the drives and look what is on them ("enable" or something)
[04:08] <dura> Cornellius: sudo what ?
[04:08] <g0real> dura: I know what I am doing and I also need to display as root sometimes
[04:08] <Grisen> Under flags column for GParted it says boot for /dev/hdb1
[04:08] <Cornellius> dura: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:08] <dura> g0real: Doesn't mean it's safe/secure.
[04:08] <orbin> dura: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[04:08] <g0real> dura: I know
[04:08] <dura> orbin: Ty :)
[04:09] <g0real> dura: you cannot do security by obscurity
[04:09] <Warbo> Grisen: Try mounting hdb1 and looking in it's boot folder
[04:09] <dura> g0real: Nor by stupidity.
[04:09] <Grisen> You know there are hundreds of thousands of 98 users who could be peeled from MSoft...
[04:09] <g0real> dura: doesn't work, hasn't work, will never work
[04:09] <TooBazz> can mandriva tap into red hat reposertories?
[04:09] <JoseGosdin> g0real, Well, it's more of a regional version of Ubuntu. It's not that anything is wrong with the default install (besides card games), but we would like to have web filtering, bible trivia, and bible study programs out of the box.
[04:09] <Grisen> How do I mount it?
[04:09] <Warbo> Grisen: Does it have an icon on thedesktop?
[04:10] <Grisen> For the live CD icons are Examples and Install
[04:10] <g0real> JoseGosdin: Ah, thanks. Sounds like a live CD will be great for it
[04:10] <sethk> besides, there is no difference between being root and being allowed to sudo every command there is, unless you count the fact that you have to type sudo.  that quickly simply becomes a habit and loses all value.
[04:10] <dura> orbin: Interesting... I thought I was missing an option in a config some where.
[04:10] <Warbo> Grisen: OK. I sys>admin>disks they will have a path shown (usually in /media). Go into that path in the file browser
[04:11] <Grisen> ok
[04:11] <orbin> dura: yeah, like i said ... didn't know that myself...glad i googled it just now :)
[04:11] <g0real> g0real admins 1000 workstations, 50% with linux, 2 100-node clusters, Solaris servers, and still some Irix boxes around. A few windows here and there
[04:11] <dura> orbin:  :)
[04:11] <dura> I don't feel so blind/dumb now heh
[04:12] <Grisen> disks manager shows a list of drives on the left including cd and floppy then two tabs for each drive you choose-- properties and partitions.  No pull down menus, is that what you mean, warbo?
[04:12] <Artan1s> I feel blind/dumb
[04:12] <blind> ouch dura
[04:12] <blind> ouch
[04:12] <Artan1s> I was the only person at HOPE without a laptop
[04:13] <Warbo> Grisen: Choose your hard drive with Ubuntu on it, then on the Partitions go on hdb1 and look where it is being mounted (in /media)
[04:13] <g0real> Wy does ubunto insists on mounting my USB stick on /media/sdb1 ?? All other distros mounted it by name, like /mnt/SECURE_II
[04:14] <g0real> (SECURE_II is the model of the USB stick)
[04:14] <Grisen> Sorry, not clear what you mean with this particular GUI
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> g0real,  it mounts mine by name
[04:14] <g0real> DrWillis: Really ?
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> actually it mounts it by its Label Name
[04:14] <Warbo> g0real: /media is for gnome-volume-manager. It should recognise the name though
[04:14] <Grisen> It has partititon properties on the right (?)
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> I renemed it under windows.. and it uses that name
[04:14] <Warbo> Grisen: yes, in there
[04:14] <g0real> It doesn't on mine (it's really Kubuntu--- do you think that matters ?)
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> not sure if gnome or kde makes a differance
[04:15] <Grisen> The buttons I can choose from are format, change and enable
[04:15] <sethk> I never use mount by label.  I've seen, more than once, someone add a partition, and the mounting changes (because the name of the new partition is the same as one of the old ones)
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> install ubuntu-desktop and see if gnome dies it better
[04:15] <Grisen> \I am in disks manager
[04:15] <Strykyr> how come no one told me about synaptic when i was trying to solve my tsl issue?
[04:15] <g0real> sethk: true
[04:15] <Grisen> Thats the GUI
[04:15] <Strykyr> tcl*
[04:15] <Warbo> Grisen: Where is the "Access Path" for Partition 1?
[04:15] <Grisen> (trying to avoid the word Window)
[04:16] <g0real> Dr_Willis: I really really hope gnome doesn't die .... ;)
[04:16] <sethk> Strykyr, probably assumed you already knew about it.
[04:16] <Grisen> warbo /dev/hdb1
[04:16] <ironuckles> hello
[04:16] <g0real> hi
[04:16] <Warbo> Grisen: That is not the access path :) Try clicking "Enable"
[04:16] <ironuckles> I'm having problems with printing and setting up a printer in Ubuntu
[04:17] <g0real> ironuckels: be specific
[04:17] <Grisen> Enable just returns the same look, no new information
[04:18] <Warbo> Grisen: Try typing "/mnt" into the Access Path, then click enable again
[04:18] <Grisen> I can type there-- trying...
[04:18] <ed1t> i installed xubuntu and the installer didnt create the swap partition...how would i create now?
[04:19] <g0real> ed1t: disk manager and resize
[04:19] <Warbo> ed1t: Do you know how to make partitons in the first place? (GParted in a LiveCD)
[04:19] <Grisen> Okay enable has changed to disable, so somethinng must have happened
[04:19] <ironuckles> g0real, okay, when I try to set up a printer via the System->Admin->Printers menu, it detects my printer, but doesn't populate the "manufacturer" combobox. I also tried downloading the PPD file for my printer, which worked, but I since disconnected the printer, and when I try to set it up again the exactly same way, it says the PPD file is already instead and errors out.
[04:19] <ed1t> Warbo: i let it do it
[04:19] <Grisen> Size: 7.51GB (5.2GB free)
[04:20] <Grisen> Status accessible
[04:20] <Grisen> Browse button is available
[04:20] <Warbo> Grisen: Go into /mnt in the file browser (eg. go on "Examples" then press ctrl-L and type /mnt)
[04:20] <Warbo> Grisen: Or just use browse :)
[04:20] <ed1t> swap partition is there....but i need to resize my linux partition, coz i still have to make data disc
[04:20] <g0real> ironuckes: hmmm. Post that to the main channel. I'm really a noob in ubuntu. I have done it in other distros, but not this one. So I cannot give you step-by-step
[04:20] <Grisen> New screen with file folder icons
[04:21] <ironuckles> g0real, whats the main channel?
[04:21] <Warbo> Grisen: I assume there is a boot folder in there?
[04:21] <Grisen> Yes
[04:21] <g0real> ironnuckles: never mind, just here
[04:22] <g0real> g0real: h
[04:22] <Warbo> Grisen: Go in it and see if it is empty or full of stuff
[04:22] <ed1t> is there any way i can switch it over? coz i have the ext3 partition made for it but it took the wrong one
[04:22] <Grisen> okay...
[04:22] <Grisen> fullofstuff
[04:22] <maccam94> where is the modules autoload file located?
[04:22] <g0real> i got to go now. See you people later. I'm going to get more familiar with ubuntu so I can help more.
[04:22] <Grisen> sub folder grub
[04:23] <Warbo> Grisen: Good. Is there a vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 and an initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386?
[04:23] <ed1t> xubuntu rox
[04:23] <Grisen> Yes, both
[04:23] <Warbo> ed1t: No, ROX rox :)
[04:23] <ed1t> lol
[04:23] <ed1t> that too
[04:23] <Warbo> (well, actually I don't like it :) )
[04:24] <maccam94> rox vs. e17? anyone?
[04:24] <Warbo> Grisen: Seems like there is everything needed to boot
[04:24] <Frankenstein> hi, i just reinstalled ubuntu breezy, updated it, than upgraded to dapper from a clean start, but now i cant get xmms to play any sound... any idea?
[04:24] <Grisen> Warbo - both are in boot folder
[04:24] <ironuckles> I'm having printing problems in Ubuntu. When I try to set up a printer via the System->Admin->Printers menu, it detects my printer, but doesn't populate the "manufacturer" combobox. I also tried downloading the PPD file for my printer, which worked, but I since disconnected the printer, and when I try to set it up again the exactly same way, it says the PPD file is already instead and errors out.
[04:24] <Grisen> Okay, I'm a bit lost now, so tell me what you've learned... ("so the whole class can benefit")
[04:24] <Warbo> Grisen: press alt-f2 and run "gksudo gedit"
[04:24] <Frankenstein> !sound
[04:24] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:25] <fleeky> is it possible to just update the apt sources for a debian distro to "install" ubuntu?
[04:25] <Grisen> Warbo, will try that command
[04:25] <prophet> can someone help me setp up a static ip
[04:25] <kazukisan> I am trying to get video plugins for Opera, can anyone give me some suggestions?
[04:25] <ed1t> prophet: get dyndns.org
[04:25] <Warbo> Grisen: You don't have a /boot partition, your kernel is called vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 (and your initrd.img is similar), and your / is /dev/hdb1
[04:25] <cntb> Frankenstein: install vlc until u resolve xmms
[04:25] <ed1t> it works pretty good
[04:26] <Frankenstein> cntb, vlc?
[04:26] <Frankenstein> i also dont have any multimeda system button
[04:26] <cntb> vlc is universal player videolan
[04:26] <prophet> what is a static ip
[04:26] <Frankenstein> prophet, a ip that doesnt change
[04:27] <ed1t> the ip that doesnt change
[04:27] <prophet> k
[04:27] <cntb> like your sound card not installed ?
[04:27] <klees> how can VI remember the location of where i last saved?
[04:27] <Grisen> Warbo: in gedit now "unsaved document"
[04:27] <klees> the cursor location
[04:27] <Frankenstein> well i dont want to use vlc.... i want to use xmms... its been used before
[04:27] <Warbo> prophet: An Internet address which doesn't change when you log onto the Net (usually dialup and broadband change every time you connect)
[04:27] <cntb> I like xmms too
[04:27] <ed1t> that u dont have since ur on cable
[04:27] <Kyral> klees: its a commented out option in /etc/vimrc
[04:27] <ironuckles> I'm having printing problems in Ubuntu. When I try to set up a printer via the System->Admin->Printers menu, it detects my printer, but doesn't populate the "manufacturer" combobox. I also tried downloading the PPD file for my printer, which worked, but I since disconnected the printer, and when I try to set it up again the exactly same way, it says the PPD file is already installed and errors out.
[04:27] <Warbo> Grisen: Open up /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:27] <Kyral> copy it to ~/.vimrc and modify to your needs
[04:27] <ed1t> unless u pay some extra per month to get it
[04:27] <klees> Kyral: thx i'll check it out
[04:28] <orbin> Frankenstein: try changing the output plugin to alsa or esound
[04:28] <ed1t> but if u wanna have DNS which points to ur ip address, go to dyndns.org
[04:28] <ed1t> its pretty good
[04:28] <Grisen> Warbo, can we modify this so I can boot to b from a floppy??
[04:28] <Warbo> Grisen: I think so. Just need to make sure GRUB is looking in the right place
[04:28] <Grisen> Okay, lets race
[04:28] <orbin> Frankenstein: if you like xmms, you might want to try beep media player ... sort of like xmms in gtk2
[04:29] <Frankenstein> ive tried that all, ubuntu sees my soundcard and its installed etc... but your missing the point, i want to use xmms not anything else, its worked before
[04:29] <Dattasmoon> is there a way to make ubuntu boot into text only mode? i like the graphics but i don't want it on my server, taking up memory
[04:29] <Warbo> Grisen: Look for a line "# kopt=root=/dev/ssomething ro" and make sure it says "# kopt=root=/dev/hdb1 ro"
[04:30] <Frankenstein> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: ALC880 Analog [ALC880 Analog]
[04:30] <Warbo> Dattasmoon: Get rid of the GDM package
[04:30] <userundefine> Dattasmoon, just install the server version if you don't need X
[04:30] <orbin> Frankenstein: you've changed the output plugin?
[04:30] <Frankenstein> orbin, yes, restared xmms no luck
[04:30] <Grisen> You want me to open /mnt/boot/grub/menu... how do I do that within gedit please?
[04:30] <klees> Kyral: i can't find that line
[04:30] <Frankenstein> im also not getting any sound on bootup
[04:30] <Kyral> klees: lemme look at my vimrc
[04:30] <klees> k
[04:31] <Warbo> Grisen: Go on open, go in Filesystem on the left then go in mnt, then boot, then grub then open menu.lst
[04:31] <Grisen> okay
[04:31] <orbin> Frankenstein: sounds liek you have bigger issues if you don't get system sounds either
[04:31] <Kyral> !paste
[04:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:31] <Frankenstein> what i dont understand is that everything worked before, why not now?
[04:32] <Grisen> Warbo: got it
[04:32] <Dattasmoon> warbo, thanks userundefine, i did have the server only  installed under breezy but when i updated to dapper, it put the graphics back on
[04:32] <Kyral> klees: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19533 <== Seems to be the line that does it
[04:32] <Warbo> Grisen: Check the line I mentioned above
[04:33] <Grisen> I have menu.1st open-- what am I looking for (feel like a newborn here)
[04:33] <Warbo> Grisen: Then check the line "# groot=(hdsomething,something)" and make sure it says "# groot=(hd1,0)"
[04:34] <Grisen> Yes, # groot=(hd1,0)
[04:35] <Warbo> Grisen: OK, check "# kopt=root=/dev/ssomething ro" and make sure it says "# kopt=root=/dev/hdb1 ro"
[04:35] <klees> Kyral: do i need the last line:    augroup END
[04:35] <Kyral> klees: I think so
[04:35] <DanaG> Okay, I just installed 6.06 LTS.
[04:36] <DanaG> I'm trying to figure out how to get an SMP kernel without recompiling.
[04:36] <Grisen> Exactly it
[04:36] <tritium> DanaG: install one from the repos
[04:36] <Warbo> Grisen: Then check the actual boot entries near the bottom. Make sure they use those options above (eg. root (hd1,0), kernel has "root=/dev/hdb1" and stuff)
[04:37] <dauoalagio> can someone please help me with ndiswrappers??
[04:37] <klees> Kyral: that looked like it worked thx again
[04:37] <Madpilot> DanaG, AFAIK the default kernel in Ubuntu has SMP compiled into it...
[04:38] <TimeKiller> I'm running a web server on one machine. I want to be able to use samba to upload files to it but i don't want to chmod 777 the docroot directory. What can i do? :)
[04:38] <spiderworm> !mp3
[04:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:38] <DanaG> If I run "sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo", it only lists one.
[04:38] <erus`> how do i get r300?
[04:38] <ryanakca> DanaG: run:    dmesg | grep SMP
[04:39] <erus`> is it this Xservergl thing in synaptic?
[04:39] <DanaG> aah, okay.
[04:39] <ryanakca> DanaG: that's all I can help you with... and that's not a lot
[04:39] <DanaG> That saves me some time.
[04:39] <Warbo> !tell erus` about xgl
[04:39] <Grisen> Warbo, those are there next to "root" and "kernel"
[04:39] <DanaG> I see Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration.
[04:40] <Warbo> Grisen: It seems everything is OK. Do you have a spare floppy disc?
[04:40] <Grisen> Three sets of info, including one for mem test and one for recovery
[04:40] <Grisen> Yes I have a floppy
[04:40] <Warbo> Grisen: Yes, those are there by defualt
[04:40] <Grisen> Might have some unneeded files on it
[04:40] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: what wifi card do you have?
[04:40] <TimeKiller> Isn't it bad practice to chmod 777 the document root of a web server?
[04:40] <Warbo> Grisen: Put in the floppy, save and exit the file and in a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) run "sudo grub-install /dev/fd0"
[04:41] <rait> Hi
[04:41] <ro_claus> TimeKilller .it is ;)
[04:41] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: broadcom 4311
[04:41] <Grisen> Does the floppy need to be formatted or erased?
[04:41] <rait> can anyone help me retrieve my login ?
[04:41] <ro_claus> Grisen..yea..
[04:41] <TimeKiller> Then how can i open it up to be able to upload with samba? :P
[04:41] <Warbo> Grisen: I don;t think so, GRUB lives in it's MBR
[04:41] <orbin> what are the linux-*-smp packages for then?
[04:41] <Warbo> (well, boot sector)
[04:41] <Artan1s> What is linux?
[04:41] <Artan1s> rofl
[04:42] <slid3r> anyone have issue gettin xmms to play a .pls file after install on ubuntu?
[04:42] <TimeKiller> linux = something that makes toast or something
[04:42] <Warbo> !tell Artan1s about linux
[04:42] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: it is installed correctly, and i have it in wlan0, but it wont let me set essid
[04:42] <ro_claus> orbin... for multi processor machines
[04:42] <Strykyr> what is a good text editor for ubuntu that is weasy to get my hands on
[04:42] <Strykyr> ?
[04:42] <TimeKiller> gedit is decent
[04:42] <Warbo> slid3r: .pls = playlist?
[04:42] <Strykyr> Thank You
[04:42] <TimeKiller> it's built in
[04:42] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: is it enabled?
[04:42] <slid3r> correct as in from http://www.di.fm
[04:42] <orbin> ro_claus: why would you need them if the default apparently supports smp?
[04:42] <TimeKiller> to ubuntu at least
[04:43] <slid3r> Warbo text editor for what purpose?
[04:43] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: yep it's active
[04:43] <slid3r> I mean
[04:43] <Warbo> slid3r: Make sure it doesn't use \ (as in C:\folder\file.mp3) or change XMMS preferences to use \ as well as /
[04:43] <slid3r> theres the one already installed
[04:43] <ro_claus> orbin..where'd you find them?
[04:43] <slid3r> but for html and php and such theres bluefisch
[04:43] <slid3r> blufish*
[04:43] <ShadowGunner> anyone know if ndiswrapper is on ubuntu livecd?
[04:43] <orbin> ro_claus: them being what?
[04:44] <ro_claus> orbin..this smp files
[04:44] <slid3r> Warbo, well the pls is a url
[04:44] <Warbo> slid3r: OK then
[04:44] <Warbo> slid3r: It goes without saying all of that MP3 restricted stuff.....
[04:45] <HellDragon> :O
[04:45] <orbin> ro_claus: the smp metapackages?  they're available in the repos.
[04:45] <slid3r> well I know it plays on xmms I have done it a million times
[04:45] <Grisen> Warbo "could not find device  for /boot: Not found or not a block device  (should I look for another floppy??)
[04:45] <erus`> "E: xorg-driver-fglrx: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2" when trying to remove fglrx driver
[04:45] <rait> i have recently been having trouble with my ubuntu partition and i have just recently been able to get back on it but now i have forgotten my login any way to retrieve it ?
[04:45] <slid3r> tbu if I put into play >> location >> http://www.di.fm/mp3/chillout.pls
[04:45] <ro_claus> orbin...they are prepackaged then for using on SMP machines
[04:45] <slid3r> it should fire the stream right up
[04:45] <Warbo> Grisen: Hmm, that's weird.
[04:45] <Grisen> Maybe not formatted
[04:45] <PapaMidnight> so I'm trying to upgrade my flash player, and everything is running fine until it tells me to remove the  xpti.dat fyle from my firefox components directory, but I'm not able to get there.  Any help?
[04:46] <PapaMidnight> file**
[04:46] <Warbo> Grisen: I don't think it actually matters
[04:46] <Grisen> Did it find a problem with writing to the floppy or a problem with  /boot?
[04:46] <Warbo> Grisen: Try formatting it, making a folder "boot" on it, then "grub" in there and wait a second...
[04:46] <rait> anyone ?
[04:47] <Grisen> Let me try another diskette (?)
[04:47] <TimeKiller> PapaMidnight: is it in your .firefox directory?
[04:47] <Warbo> Grisen: Try copying across as much of the contents of /mnt/boot/grub as you can (stage files mainly)
[04:47] <Grisen> didnt like that one either-- same message
[04:48] <len> Hi, how do I add screen resolution in my Ubuntu without having to edit xorg.conf???
[04:48] <TimeKiller> PapaMidnight: open up nautilus and navigate to your desktop. then press control h that will show hidden directories and you should be able to get to it there.
[04:48] <sethk> len, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver will edit xorg.conf for you
[04:48] <Grisen> Let's assume these (older) diskettes have some bad sectors or are not formatted.  How to format from Ubuntu?
[04:48] <sethk> len, there is no way to add resolutions without something, either you or a program, editing xorg.conf
[04:49] <Warbo> Grisen: Format the floppy, mount it (like you did with the HD) make a folder "boot", and try copying /mnt/boot/grub into there
[04:49] <Warbo> Grisen: Applications>System Tools>Floppy Formatter?
[04:49] <Warbo> Grisen: Or Sys>Admin>Disks?
[04:49] <len> sethk: I mean a program doing it for me
[04:49] <Grisen> Tell me how to format please, I speak M$oft
[04:49] <sethk> len, you can't add a resolution without modifying xorg.conf
[04:49] <Grisen> See it
[04:49] <sethk> Grisen, fdformat /dev/fd0
[04:50] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: try this at the command line as su: iwconfig wlan0 mode managed && iwlist wlan0 scan
[04:50] <len> sethk: I know that, I mean a program do it for me... editing for me
[04:50] <klees> any idea y sudo apt-get upgrade  kept Totem back??
[04:50] <len> sethk: thx for the tip i'll try now
[04:50] <Grisen> Applications menu doesnt have system tools
[04:50] <sethk> len    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:50] <Warbo> klees: Try dist-upgrade
[04:50] <klees> Warbo: that also keeps it
[04:51] <sethk> len, I think I reversed the xserver and xorg the first time.  the one I just pasted is correct.
[04:51] <maccam94_> dauoalagio:  then use that info to do iwconfig wlan0 essid nameofrouter
[04:51] <orbin> len: which IMO is more complex than adding a 8 or so characters in a text file
[04:51] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: then run dhclient wlan0
[04:51] <len> sethk: kk I'll check now... I'm just making a back-up of my xorg.conf
[04:51] <klees> what's the difference between  upgrade and dist-upgrade ??
[04:51] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: came up with no results. so i have no info for the router
[04:51] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: hm
[04:52] <Warbo> klees: upgrade only upgrades your installed packages. dist-upgrade also removes or installs new/old ones
[04:52] <dauoalagio> maccam94_:..
[04:52] <maccam94_> and you're sure your wifi card is up and your wireless router is on?
[04:52] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: yes
[04:52] <Grisen> Formatting with FDformat command
[04:52] <klees> Warbo: k....  dist-ugrade still keeps Totem =\
[04:52] <InvisiblePinkUni> !bugs
[04:52] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <len> orbin: IMO?
[04:52] <Warbo> klees: (so totem-gstreamer would need to install all of the newer gstreamer0.10 packages. upgrade wouldn't get them but dist-upgrade would)
[04:52] <InvisiblePinkUni> !bugzilla
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about bugzilla - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:52] <UbuntuJulez> does beep media player's equalizer not work in ubuntu?
[04:52] <InvisiblePinkUni> !testopia
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about testopia - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:52] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: pastebin the output from ifconfig
[04:52] <UbuntuJulez> !you
[04:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about you - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:52] <InvisiblePinkUni> anyone using testopia here?
[04:52] <Grisen> And all that time WASTED on DOS
[04:52] <Madpilot> !bugs
[04:52] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:53] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: i can;t its on the laptop with no internet
[04:53] <maccam94_> ah ok
[04:53] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: wait i have an idea
[04:53] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: i did ifconfig and it is coming us as wlan0 = ethernet
[04:53] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: well do you see any errors related to the driver in the output...?
[04:53] <maccam94_> ah
[04:53] <maccam94_> well that would be a problem
[04:53] <cowmilk> in terminal how do i run two cammands in sequence? what symbol do i put between the 2 commands?
[04:54] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: yes how can i fix?
[04:54] <userundefine> cowmilk, &&
[04:54] <cowmilk> user
[04:54] <cowmilk> thank
[04:54] <cowmilk> userundefine:
[04:54] <cowmilk> thanks
[04:54] <userundefine> got it
[04:54] <Warbo> Grisen: When it is done run "sudo mkdir /grubfloppy && sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy && sudo mkdir /grubfloppy/boot && sudo cp -r /mnt/boot/grub /grubfloppy/boot"
[04:54] <argunda> will ubuntu run ok in my laptop which has 128mb ram?
[04:54] <bruenig> you can also put a ; in between them
[04:54] <mister_roboto> cowmilk, use && if you want to run the second only when the first succeeds. if you wanna run the second regardless whether the first command succeeds, use ;
[04:55] <sethk> argunda, a bit tight, perhaps.  use one of the low overhead window managers, neither gnome nor kde
[04:55] <Grisen> Formatted fine.  Did sudo grib-install /dev/fd0 from command line.  Returned "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[04:55] <cowmilk> what's the proper way of adding opera (browser) into my sysntem?
[04:55] <Warbo> Grisen: Use that huge command I posted above
[04:55] <Grisen> Okay...
[04:55] <userundefine> cowmilk, I'm pretty sure opera is in one of the repositories.  apt-get install it
[04:56] <cowmilk> userundefine: do i have ta add a repo to my sources list?
[04:56] <sethk> Grisen, you have to mount the floppy and copy the /boot directory to it
[04:56] <bruenig> !info opera
[04:56] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in dapper
[04:56] <Warbo> sethk: Not the whole /boot folder, since that includes kernels and initrd images which won't fit
[04:56] <Madpilot> !opera
[04:56] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked.
[04:56] <Warbo> sethk: Just the grub stages
[04:56] <sethk> Warbo, that's true
[04:56] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: um, have you looked through dmesg?
[04:57] <sethk> Warbo, /boot/grub, my mistake
[04:57] <cowmilk> Madpilot: i'm in xubuntu. is it the same way to add programs?
[04:57] <len> sethk: Do u think I sould enable the framebuffer?
[04:57] <sethk> len, no
[04:57] <Madpilot> cowmilk, I think so,  yes
[04:57] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: umm no
[04:57] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: skim through it, see if it says anything bad about the ndiswrappers and/or the driver
[04:57] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: okay one second
[04:58] <Warbo> Grisen: By the way, you can select the command and middle click on a terminal to copy/paste it
[04:58] <Warbo> (left+right = middle as well)
[04:58] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: yes
[04:58] <Dawnshadow> I installed a package (Dgen) through Synapse and it's not showing up in the applications menu. Any idea where I can find it to make my own link to it?
[04:59] <Taylor_> how well would ubuntu run on a 800MHz P3 with 512MB PC100 RAM? 11MB video
[04:59] <bruenig> Dawnshadow, dgen is a command line program
[04:59] <Warbo> Taylor_: Xubuntu would run well. Ubuntu may be a little sluggish, but should be OK
[04:59] <TimeKiller> it runs fine on a p3 450 mhz with 192 megs of ram
[04:59] <kana> running well here
[04:59] <Dawnshadow> Ok... *tries to find online directions on how to run it*
[04:59] <Taylor_> Xubuntu live CD took FOREVER to boot up on my machine, and ran extrememly slow
[04:59] <kana> Taylor_: amd 1 GHz 340MB ram
[05:00] <len> sethk: What's the difference between ImPS/2 ExplorerPS/2
[05:00] <bruenig> Dawnshadow, if you are trying to load a particular rom just open a terminal and type 'dgen /path/to/whatever the rom is
[05:00] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: errors?
[05:00] <TimeKiller> Tayler: because it's a CD.
[05:00] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: can we set up a private chat
[05:00] <maccam94_> sure
[05:00] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: how
[05:00] <TimeKiller> CD transfer rate isn't as high as a Hard drive
[05:00] <Taylor_> TimeKiller: even other distros with KDE have ran better than this though
[05:00] <Dawnshadow> Thank you. ^^
[05:00] <kana> Taylor_: you might consider light wm such as fluxbox if you look for speed
[05:00] <sethk> len, I've only used imps/2, which works well for my usb wheel mouse
[05:00] <sethk> len, I'm not sure which device the other is for.
[05:00] <bruenig> Dawnshadow, but you better make sure you own the cartridge version of that ROM, else it is illegal ;D
[05:01] <len> sethk: I'll use same, I also got a usb wheel mouse
[05:01] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: i sent you a pm
[05:02] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: no you didn't
[05:02] <phargle> ive only got an am
[05:02] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: /msg me
[05:02] <Grisen> Warbo:  Did the long command line, diskette drive hummed & clicked, then Returned: "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[05:03] <Warbo> Grisen: Hmm "sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy -t vfat" maybe
[05:03] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: /msg maccam94_ hi
[05:03] <dauoalagio> what that's what i said
[05:03] <jackinthebox> how do i make icons and items disappear on a gnome desktop?
[05:03] <Grisen> Warbo: type just that portion or substitute for part of the longer command?
[05:04] <Warbo> Grisen: Just try that on it's own
[05:04] <Grisen> Ok
[05:04] <bruenig> jackinthebox, what do you mean disappear?
[05:04] <maccam94_> dauoalagio: ok weird, we aren't getting each other's pm's somehow
[05:04] <maccam94_> er
[05:04] <maccam94_> maybe i'm not authed
[05:04] <maccam94_> hmmm
[05:04] <jackinthebox> well i made a program to ping a server, but the script is on the desktop and i want to make it invisible
[05:04] <len> sethk: Thx, i'll reboot X now, brb (maybe, hope so)
[05:05] <dauoalagio> maccam94_: do you have aim/yahoo/msn or something
[05:05] <maccam94> yeah
[05:05] <Warbo> jackinthebox: Make a text file called ".hidden" on the desktop, and put the filename you want hidden in there
[05:05] <Dawnshadow> Hey, it works! ^^ Now I have to figure out what to type to configure the keys...
[05:05] <orbin> jackinthebox: perhaps the desktop folder is not he best place to put it then
[05:05] <slid3r> dumber question tehn my first ... when I click a file o firefox ... and select "open with" and then other ... if I wanted to use XMMS ... where would I tell it to find the app?
[05:06] <bruenig> Dawnshadow, If you figure that out, please tell me
[05:06] <jackinthebox> warbo: make a text file and name it .hidden and just place that file in the file named .hidden?
[05:06] <Warbo> slid3r: /usr/bin/xmms
[05:06] <slid3r> really
[05:06] <slid3r> thats easy
[05:06] <slid3r> thanks vm
[05:06] <maccam94> dauoalagio: im me at the same nick as this
[05:06] <d> can i get some noob help with installing ubuntu?
[05:06] <bruenig> d, what is the problem
[05:06] <Warbo> jackinthebox: If the script is called "ping-script" then do "echo "ping-script" > ~/Desktop/.hidden
[05:06] <grb> hi, I'm using vpnc... everything great, except that I can't find how to set 'keepalive'... anybody knows how?
[05:06] <Warbo> "
[05:07] <J2D2> Is there somewhere other than sourceomatic i can get the dapperdrake sources.list because that one , when i did apt-get update it said some of them were broken
[05:07] <d> i have the desktop Cd (64 bit) when i insert the cd the boot menu comes up
[05:07] <orbin> slid3r: yeah, most executables are in /usr/bin
[05:07] <jackinthebox> warbo:ok, thnx a mil! btw, know anything about kmplayer and why it doesnt play mkv files well?
[05:07] <Grisen> warbo: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, missing codepage or other error"
[05:07] <turing> any suggestions for 2-cpu panel widgets?
[05:07] <slid3r> sweeeeeeet
[05:08] <bruenig> d, yes...?
[05:08] <slid3r> thank you vm it works oh glory
[05:08] <Warbo> jackinthebox: Need some codecs in /usr/lib/codecs maybe? I don;t use KDE much
[05:08] <d> i select install/play and then it starts loading, when I am done it takes me to a prompt...there is no install, no interface...
[05:08] <Warbo> Grisen: Try running "dmesg | tail" and pastebin it
[05:08] <jackinthebox> Warbo: i have those codecs, it just comes out all messed up and stuff
[05:08] <reck> HELP PLEASE- pvt-me ubuntu dont boot
[05:09] <Grisen> Okay looking for that tall slash on my kboard-- hmm, dont see it...
[05:09] <bruenig> d, first the obvious, you do have a 64 bit processer right?
[05:09] <turing> grisen, the |  ?
[05:09] <Grisen> Yes
[05:09] <Warbo> Grisen: It is above \ for me (UK keyboard)
[05:09] <turing> is it above your enter key?
[05:09] <Grisen> Yessir it is
[05:09] <turing> as the shift option for \ ?
[05:10] <J2D2> Is there somewhere other than sourceomatic i can get the dapperdrake sources.list because that one , when i did apt-get update it said some of them were broken
[05:10] <d> amd dual core 4200
[05:10] <Warbo> Grisen: Select the text in GAIM, then middle click in the terminal
[05:10] <d> so yes
[05:10] <bruenig> d, try 'startx'
[05:10] <d> ah, so that is the syntax. i couldnt remember from using 5.04
[05:11] <cowmilk> a "sudo apt-get" command is currently running. is there a way for me to add another "sudo apt-get" command now so that after the 1st command is done, this new cohmmand will be done?
[05:11] <d> can i install from inside X?
[05:11] <d> i would assume that is a yes
[05:11] <bruenig> d, yes
[05:11] <VitaminG> cowmilk: sudo apt-get && next command
[05:11] <bruenig> there is a install button on the desktop
[05:11] <bruenig> an*
[05:11] <Madpilot> J2D2, the auto-source web thing should give you a good sources.list, but you can try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17674 too
[05:11] <Grisen> Warbo, okay friend, how do I IRC from within the live cd?
[05:11] <turing> I've got a Pentium D and have the linux-686-smp kernel running.  I see 2 cpus in top now.  What panel gizmo can I use to display both cpu's?
[05:11] <cowmilk> VitaminG: but i didn't do that originally, so what can i do now?
[05:12] <d> ok, thanks bruenig. im going to give it a shot....ill be back otherwise
[05:12] <QMario> Bye everyone!!! :)
[05:12] <d> you help is much appreciated
[05:12] <bruenig> d, wait
[05:12] <sally2> what's the command to upgrade the kernel?
[05:12] <d> yeah?
[05:12] <VitaminG> cowmilk: nothing that I know of.
[05:13] <Warbo> Grisen: Applications>Internet>Gaim
[05:13] <Grisen> Okay...
[05:13] <bruenig> d, nevermind, I was wondering if it you could, since the install is on the desktop actually start it via the command prompt as in at the prompt, if startx doesn't work do something like /Desktop/Install, but I kind of doubt it since it is graphical
[05:13] <VitaminG> sally2: you need to know what the new kernel name is, and install it just like a program
[05:13] <ironclad_> hey, open question.  I have an old PPC powerbookg3 (orginal wallstreet model)  and I am having trouble booting ubuntu for powerpc anyone have a solution
[05:13] <sally2> i see
[05:13] <sally2> thanks vitaminG
[05:14] <cowmilk> how come when i ran "sudo apt-get install opera", the terminal told me to put the xubuntu cd instide the cd drive?
[05:14] <d> i will try that if start x does not work, thanks
[05:14] <Nuked> because its one of your sources
[05:14] <bruenig> Desktop/Install*
[05:14] <bruenig> not the initial slash
[05:14] <turing> ironclad, if I'm not mistaken you need to use an alternative bootloader for the wall street b/c it is an "Old World Rom Mac"
[05:14] <d> ok
[05:14] <turing> iron: for instance bootx
[05:14] <ironclad_> where can I get that then?
[05:15] <ironclad_> is it a hard thing to get my hands on?
[05:15] <turing> http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/bootx/
[05:15] <turing> iron, you might also look into yaboot which it talks about on that page
[05:15] <ironclad_> I thought it might be classified as a old world mac
[05:16] <turing> i, that machine is definitely an old world mac
[05:16] <ironclad_> yeah, it is showing its age too
[05:16] <ironclad_> hoping unbuntu will expand its life some
[05:17] <grb> hi, how do you set keepalive for vpnc? I tried keepalive 10 120 in default.conf but it gave me an error
[05:17] <turing> i, I've got one myself, I got gentoo on it, but didn't get anything useful compiled before I got pulled to other projects
[05:17] <AltF4> Guys Guess what!
[05:17] <AltF4> Guys Guess what!
[05:17] <AltF4> Guys Guess what!
[05:17] <AltF4> Guys Guess what!
[05:17] <Warbo> I have a conundrum. How could I install Linux/BSD/whatever on a laptop which has no floppy or CDROM, no network and a blank HD. I was thinking of removing the HD and installing through another computer, but the only computer I have which can read 2.5" drives is an A1200
[05:18] <grb> What?
[05:18] <dibblego> why does Skype not use my Logitech USB headset for sound output, but XMMS does?
[05:18] <ironclad_> turing, TY I will look into it, I just figured there was something that I over looked thanks
[05:18] <AltF4> PopCap.com has a virus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[05:18] <turing> open question: I've got a pentium D and top's now showing 2 cpus w/ the smp kernel.  What cpu monitering app can I use to show the cpu loads seperately?
[05:18] <sally2> what would be the command to install the kernel 2.6.17?
[05:18] <turing> warbo, how'd you get yourself in that situation?
[05:18] <grb> error: vpnc: warning: unknown configuration directive in /etc/vpnc/default.conf at line 14 (sorry)
[05:19] <Warbo> turing: I bought a crappy laptop :)
[05:19] <AltF4> Screenshot http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/4095/1187741445999148074_rs.jpg
[05:19] <turing> warbo, I suppose you don't have any USB either?
[05:19] <Warbo> turing: It has USB, but it won't boot it
[05:19] <KonFuZed> oh my god GAIM is so annoying
[05:20] <turing> warbo, the 2.5" to 3.5" adaptors are pretty cheap if you get 'em online or from the right store
[05:20] <KonFuZed> why why why has GAIM been foisted upon us after x-chat was so brilliant
[05:20] <h3h_timo> turing, i have a question about i686
[05:20] <turing> h3h, sure
[05:20] <Grisen> Warbo: Gaim brings up a window called freenode-connect and is calling me Grise1, but I don't see that screen name in the list, so don't believe I'm connecting.  Something I don't get about Gaim (you are patient !)
[05:20] <Warbo> turing: I have a 3.5" to 2.5" adapter. I may plug a bigger HD into the laptop just to see if it boots :)
[05:21] <phargle> that means pig
[05:21] <Madpilot> KonFuZed, xchat is still available - install it from the universe repo
[05:21] <phargle> in norwegian
[05:21] <Warbo> Grisen: You can't log in twice under the same name
[05:22] <h3h_timo> turing, i have a centrino duo processor, should i install the i686 kernel with the smp kernel or just keep the regular i686 kernel??
[05:22] <Grisen> Warbo, so it's calling me Grise1, but I don't see that name logging in-- try again with another name?
[05:22] <turing> warbo, wacky idea, dd a bootable linux iso to the internal hd?  I've had a long day there may be many reasons that's stupid to try and why it won't work...but I can't think of any at the moment
[05:22] <dibblego> where is that dialog for configuring sound inputs and outputs?
[05:22] <Warbo> Grisen: Have you joined the #ubuntu room in GAIM?
[05:22] <KonFuZed> gaim is procedurally broken
[05:22] <cowmilk>  i've installed opera via apt-get. but opera comes out with weekly builds. is it okay to get them?
[05:22] <tritium> KonFuZed: huh?
[05:22] <turing> h3h, based upon what I was reading on the forums and my previous experience with dual-core cpus, smp is what you want
[05:22] <KonFuZed> once signe on to even one server then you can not sign on to any others
[05:22] <KonFuZed> what is that crap
[05:23] <h3h_timo> turing, so, how do i install that
[05:23] <turing> h3h, you can always just choose the old one from grub if it doesn't work well
[05:23] <phargle> h3h_timo: install outta figure it out for you, you can check with uname -a
[05:23] <KonFuZed> now that Im on this channel how is one supposed to join say another irc server such as kaffiene.net so that I can join #nubuntu
[05:24] <Warbo> turing: I was thinking that if I had a dd type command (for dumping data) then I could boot my A1200 with the drive inside off a Workbench floppy, and have a Linux system on a CD which I could dump to the drive. However, I don't have any Workbench floppies with CDROM drivers, and I don't know of any raw data moving commands on Amiga (but they must exist)
[05:24] <fgalvez> hola
[05:24] <turing> h3h, there's a great forum post I was just reading...
[05:24] <phargle> or you could reasily write one
[05:24] <h3h_timo> phargle, more details please
[05:25] <fgalvez> alguien habla espaol aqui.?
[05:25] <h3h_timo> turing, link??
[05:25] <KonFuZed> so really how do I join kaffiene.net #nubuntu
[05:25] <Warbo> turing: I was just throwing it out there, you know, in case somebody knows of a magnetic gun which beams Linux onto hard drives or something :)
[05:25] <turing> warbo, what communication methods does this laptop HAVE?  parallel?
[05:25] <turing> h3h, looking
[05:25] <KonFuZed> one has to do the little sign on procedure right
[05:25] <Warbo> turing: Modem, Parallel, Serial, USB
[05:25] <turing> warb, I've got one of those guns, but I'm holding onto it tightly :)
[05:26] <KonFuZed> but it is not available any where to do that
[05:26] <Warbo> turing: It has a bigass docking station which has Ethernet, but I don't have a power cable for it
[05:26] <roe> any idea how to get direct rendering working
[05:26] <h3h_timo> lol u guys are the best, during the day i never get responses, but nighttime is sweet, all the genius's are on
[05:26] <turing> h3h, found it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917&highlight=kernel+Pentium
[05:26] <userundefine> h3h_timo, correct
[05:26] <VitaminG> turing: I'll give you $1,000,000 for it.
[05:26] <h3h_timo> userundefine, lol true eh?
[05:26] <Grisen> Warbo, okay friend, so I put in irc.ubuntu.com and call myself Grisen1.  Then Freenode Connect comes up and says "Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to grisen1) from freenode connect.  Then I type #ubuntu and (nothing happens ??)
[05:26] <rub> i am connected in one private network called megacable with this provider i am surfing in the web, is there one way to NAT it ?, i am considering to connect Office (internet) house (megacable)
[05:26] <liquidten2> h3h_timo:  The only times I am online are usually 11PM and later >_>
[05:26] <VitaminG> just imagine the uses.
[05:27] <Warbo> Grisen: Type "/join #ubuntu"
[05:27] <Grisen> Ok
[05:27] <turing> vitamin, it's delicate and will take 6 months to ship safely
[05:27] <turing> just wire the money to my western union
[05:27] <h3h_timo> liquidten2, yeah, us nighttime ubuntuans kick ass
[05:27] <VitaminG> turing. ouch.
[05:27] <Grisen1> Hey Hey Hey!
[05:27] <VitaminG> turing: DON'T ship it UPS.
[05:28] <Warbo> turing: If I hold my laptop up, could you turn up the juice and try it from where you are?
[05:28] <Warbo> Grisen1: Hello
[05:28] <h3h_timo> turing, lol i just now saw the link, thanks
[05:28] <eternaljoy> I did upgrade and it downloaded 20mb of files but I quit it before it finished!  How can I get these files to now install from the /var/apt/archive folder?
[05:28] <turing> warbo, know anyone w/ a parallel port zip?
[05:28] <Grisen1> Sorry, know this is bad protocol, but here it comes:
[05:28] <Warbo> turing: Nope
[05:28] <Grisen1> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ dmesg | tail
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.103000]  floppy0: data CRC error: track 1, head 1, sector 16, size 2
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.103000]  end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 69
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.103000]  Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 8
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.701000]  floppy0: data CRC error: track 1, head 1, sector 16, size 2
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.900000]  floppy0: data CRC error: track 1, head 1, sector 16, size 2
[05:28] <ardy> hlp
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.900000]  end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 69
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299039.900000]  Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 8
[05:28] <Grisen1> [4299042.214000]  SQUASHFS error: Can't find a SQUASHFS superblock on fd0
[05:29] <Grisen1> [4299341.981000]  FAT: invalid media value (0xf6)
[05:29] <Grisen1> [4299341.981000]  VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev fd0.
[05:29] <Grisen1> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[05:29] <userundefine> !pastebin
[05:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:29] <ardy> help every times I go to yahoo I cannot get the page
[05:29] <lecaros> !pastebin Grisen1
[05:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebin Grisen1 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:29] <cowmilk2> how do i see how much hard drive space i have free?
[05:29] <Warbo> Grisen1: 1) use pastebin, 2) looks like a knackered floppy
[05:29] <tritium> Grisen1: please use pastebin :(
[05:29] <turing> warb, if I turned up the juice I might accidentally reformat every hard drive between us w/ ubuntu...
[05:29] <turing> cow  df -h
[05:29] <userundefine> cowmilk2, "df -h"
[05:29] <ardy> even ubuntuforum site I cannot get the page
[05:29] <KonFuZed> canany one tell me how to join a second server in GAIM - please
[05:29] <lecaros> cowmilk2 on shell or terminal df -h
[05:29] <ardy> is ubuntuforum site down?
[05:30] <rub> i am connected in one private network called megacable with this provider i am surfing in the web, is there one way to NAT it ?, i am considering to connect Office (internet) house (megacable)
[05:30] <userundefine> ardy, works for me
[05:30] <Phoul> hello
[05:30] <turing> konfuzed, click on buddy list, hit ctrl-a  accounts box will pop up, click add
[05:30] <userundefine> Hello Phoul
[05:30] <Phoul> My friend is installing ubuntu with the desktop install, His screen randomly went black
[05:30] <Phoul> But he still has a mouse
[05:30] <Phoul> Whats goin on?
[05:30] <eternaljoy> Warbo: any ideas?
[05:31] <liquidten2> Phoul:  What do you mean by "screen went black"?
[05:31] <turing> open question, I've got a pentium D, top shows 2 cpus, I want a load monitor for the panel that shows both cpus, anyone got suggestions?
[05:31] <h3h_timo> oh hey, turing, because ive been so pumped about this, i want to show it too ya... go to this link  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=136&daysprune=-1&order=desc&sort=views i made that tut a while ago, while i was still a newbie, and its the most visited post in networking on the forums!!! arent you proud of me??
[05:31] <Phoul> Umm the screen is black
[05:31] <Phoul> with a mouse
[05:31] <ardy> userundefine, hmm... why I alawys get my own localhost web page?
[05:31] <Phoul> Thats what i mean
[05:31] <VitaminG> phoul: did the monitor connection come loose?
[05:31] <Warbo> eternaljoy: About what?
[05:31] <Phoul> there would be no mouse
[05:31] <cowmilk2> how do i install jpilot?
[05:31] <Grisen1> I'll faithfully use pastebin when I know (crawl then walk)  :-)
[05:31] <userundefine> ardy, not sure,
[05:31] <VitaminG> yeah, I got that just as I pressed enter
[05:32] <Phoul> kk
[05:32] <ardy> when I try to go to ubuntuforum.org I always redirected to my localhost page
[05:32] <Phoul> Well what should he do
[05:32] <Phoul> im on the phone with him
[05:32] <Red_Drag0n> question for the techs...  is there anyway i can create a raid with ubuntu 6.06 then install onto that raid?
[05:32] <Grisen1> Warbo:  so I format this other floppy-- can you give me the command line again please?
[05:32] <ardy> anybody know how to troubleshoot my problem
[05:32] <Warbo> Grisen1: "sudo fdformat /dev/fd0"
[05:32] <VitaminG> phoul: i used to have that problem on a power mac. turned out the graphics were fried. doubt that's the case with you, though.
[05:33] <eternaljoy> Warbo: LOL! go back to sleep ;)
[05:33] <Grisen1> Thanks
[05:33] <liquidten2> ardy:  Are your nameservers set properly?
[05:33] <liquidten2> ardy:  In /etc/resolv.conf?
[05:33] <Phoul> anyone who actually has a idea?
[05:33] <DanaG> !audacity
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about audacity - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:33] <typhoid> Hail!
[05:33] <VitaminG> sorry
[05:33] <ardy> liquidten2, yes I have it correctly
[05:33] <d> brunig, you still there?
[05:33] <DanaG> !audacious
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about audacious - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:33] <liquidten2> ardy:  What about /etc/hosts?
[05:33] <DanaG> !dhcp
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about dhcp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:33] <ardy> before it working fine
[05:33] <Warbo> eternaljoy: Installing apckages without apt? "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[05:33] <DanaG> Aargh, my DHCP client isn't working.
[05:34] <VitaminG> !DanaG
[05:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about DanaG - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:34] <ardy> liquidten2, ok i check again
[05:34] <Phoul> Anyone? Cmon guys he kinda needs to get this up
[05:34] <tritium> !msgthebot
[05:34] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[05:34] <Phoul> because without this he cant even boot windows
[05:34] <turing> danag, what's up w/ your dhcp client?
[05:34] <DanaG> In SuSE, I had to check "Always Request Broadcast Response".
[05:34] <d> can anyone help with install problems
[05:34] <typhoid> soo..   can any of you recommend for me a nice mp3 player for ubuntu?  totem does not seem to  want to play mp3 files...
[05:34] <DanaG> In Ubuntu, I can't figure out how to make the same setting.
[05:34] <VitaminG> d: what's up now?
[05:35] <tritium> !mp3 > typhoid
[05:35] <DanaG> Also, is there a nice gnome equivalent of Amarok?
[05:35] <turing> typhoid, xmms?
[05:35] <d> fatal server error: screens not found.... i get this when input startx
[05:35] <Phoul> DanaG, just use xmms or somethin
[05:35] <liquidten2> DanaG:  Rhythmbox!  I personally prefer it too.
[05:35] <tritium> DanaG: you may have to edit your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[05:35] <bimberi> cowmilk2: Applications -> Add/Remove, make sure "Show unsupported applications" is checked, search for jpilot, select, click Apply
[05:35] <shawnr_> tritium, no way
[05:35] <Phoul> d wrong driver then
[05:35] <VitaminG> xmms is great.
[05:35] <Phoul> anyways
[05:35] <tritium> shawnr_: no way what?
[05:35] <shawnr_> tritium, in no way is that any where near amarok
[05:35] <Phoul> Anyone know how to fix my friends problems?
[05:35] <typhoid> oi!  i'm getting conflicting responses!
[05:35] <Warbo> DanaG: Banshee, Rhythmbox and Listen are GTK based media players
[05:35] <rixth> aMSN is written in TCL/TK. The fonts look TERRIBLE (really jagged). How can I fix this?
[05:35] <Phoul> use MPD
[05:35] <tritium> shawnr_: no, for her dhcp problem, dude
[05:35] <cowmilk2> bimberi: thank you. how do i do that via terminal?
[05:35] <Phoul> It pwns the hell outta amarok
[05:35] <typhoid> !mp3, xmms...  i certainly don't want command line player heh..
[05:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about mp3, xmms...  i certainly don't want command line player heh.. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:35] <shawnr_> tritium, oh lol
[05:36] <rixth> DanaG, Banshee is like an inferior version of amarok
[05:36] <rixth> Er, inferior version of rhythmbox
[05:36] <liquidten2> Phoul:  There is no real way to diagnose the problem with the information you gave.  As far as I know right now, his screensaver might have come on or something.
[05:36] <turing> !help
[05:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:36] <liquidten2> Rhythmbox=Amarok>Banshee
[05:36] <Phoul> liquidten2, dude
[05:36] <Phoul> The screen went *black*
[05:36] <Phoul> He has a mouse
[05:36] <tritium> !enter
[05:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:36] <Red_Drag0n> raid install help?????
[05:36] <turing> !linux
[05:36] <eternaljoy> bimberi: hello!!!! :)
[05:36] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[05:36] <Warbo> rixth: At least you don't have to maually drag XMs into the playlist, then get "This is not part of your collection" in Banshee :)
[05:36] <Grisen1> Warbo: mkdir: cannot create directory `/grubfloppy': File exists
[05:36] <Phoul> He cant see anything but the mouse. what more do you need
[05:36] <eternaljoy> bimberi: ltns
[05:36] <bimberi> cowmilk2: ensure the universe repository is enabled, 'sudo apt-get update', 'sudo apt-get install jpilot'
[05:36] <shawnr_> DanaG, there is nothing stopping you from installing amarok. after going through a million gnome music players. i went back to amarok. it owns all
[05:36] <liquidten2> Phoul:  So he has a mouse pointer  (probably an "X" right?) and a black screen.
[05:36] <Warbo> Grisen1: Of course it does
[05:36] <VitaminG> xmms>rhythmbox
[05:36] <mitcheloc> how can i install flash for firefox? :)
[05:37] <dibblego> how can I run skype and other applications that use sound together?
[05:37] <Phoul> liquidten2, its a real pointer
[05:37] <Warbo> Grisen1: Just "sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy"
[05:37] <jackinthebox> is there a KMPlayer support channel on IRC?
[05:37] <tritium> mitcheloc: install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:37] <typhoid> okie.. how about this?    any idea why my wireless connection seems so very slow (from linux) and quite faster for windows?
[05:37] <bimberi> ubotu tell cowmilk2 about universe
[05:37] <cowmilk2> bimberi: how do i ensure universe repo is enabled  when i 'm in terminaL?
[05:37] <typhoid> okie, that does it.. i'm putting xmms on here heh
[05:37] <liquidten2> VitaminG:  No way, rhythmbox supports many more formats and is much cleaner and elegant and has much better library management >_>
[05:37] <rixth> Warbo, Banshee made my system so unstable when importing my 10,000+ library, where as Rhythmbox was cool with it. I'd  like ipod write support though
[05:37] <dibblego> cowmilk2, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <liquidten2> Phoul:  Did he try restarting?
[05:37] <typhoid> ooo library management?
[05:37] <bimberi> eternaljoy: hi there, nick change i see :)
[05:37] <Phoul> liquidten2, this is durning the install
[05:37] <VitaminG> I'll give it the library management, but that's it.
[05:37] <Phoul> Does it do that when its done?
[05:37] <Grisen1> you must specify the filesystem type
[05:37] <typhoid> well.. my library is remote anyways.. i don't really need a library on here..
[05:38] <d> VitaminG, after it is done loading all packages, none of the screens seem right
[05:38] <jackinthebox> is there a KMPlayer support channel on IRC?
[05:38] <turing> open question, I've got a pentium D, top shows 2 cpus, I want a load monitor for the panel that shows both cpus, anyone got suggestions?
[05:38] <Warbo> rixth: I didn't notice your correction. I don't like Rhytmbox for some reason. Listen is good
[05:38] <DanaG> The thing is, I don't want my stuff organized by album-artist-title.
[05:38] <turing> (and how is it that I came for help and haven't gotten a single nibble on my question and have helped thousands of others...life just isn't working out for me tonight)
[05:38] <d> VitaminG: i also get, fatal server error: no screens found
[05:38] <rixth> Never heard of or seen Listen, I will look into it. I realy like the fact that RB has integrated support for Last.fm/Audioscrobbler
[05:38] <DanaG> I like to be able to load a folder at once, from the file system.
[05:39] <Cainus> geez... I can't get sshd to start at boot-time for the life of me... anyone got a suggestion?  I installed with apt-get....
[05:39] <bimberi> cowmilk2: can you view the website ubotu has sent you?  if not it's basically edit /etc/apt/sources.list as superuser and uncomment (remove #) any lines starting with 'deb' with universe in them
[05:39] <Grisen1> Warbo: Returned "you must specify the filesystem type"
[05:39] <typhoid> oi..   now that i've finally switched to 'nix for good, i feel a weight lifted from my chest
[05:39] <mitcheloc> tritium, thanks, looks like it worked :)
[05:39] <liquidten2> rixth:  Rhythmbox is awesome.  Rhythmbox + music-applet(used to be rhythmbox-applet, but now supports muine among others) is the best solution for audio playback.
[05:39] <VitaminG> d and phoul: have you tried the check cd option at the cd's boot menu? maybe you could have bad cds
[05:39] <eternaljoy> MORGANTOWN, W.Va. -- Richard Hatch, convicted of failing to pay taxes on the $1 million he won on the debut season of "Survivor," has been sent to a federal prison in West Virginia.
[05:39] <eternaljoy> sorry wrong channel
[05:39] <liquidten2> eternaljoy:  No Wai!!!!
[05:39] <cowmilk2> bimberi: yes, i'm reading the ubuto linx, but am on first paragraph, still
[05:39] <Warbo> rixth: Listen does too, it automatically creates a short playlist based on it (and it works well, selecting similar artists. Only problem is it doesn't have much of a memory, so it can cycle through the same songs a bit)
[05:40] <d> VitaminG, check cd verifys good CD
[05:40] <rixth> liquidten2, I just use the media buttons on my keyboard =)
[05:40] <jdmpike_> ok, so I really hosed my system
[05:40] <jdmpike_> can anyone give me a hand?
[05:40] <Warbo> Grisen1: try "sudo modprobe floppy && sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy -t vfat"
[05:40] <DanaG> What do I change in the dchp clien config?
[05:40] <Phoul> anyone know...
[05:40] <liquidten2> rixth:  Heh...  I got my keyboard i'm using now with my 486 about 14 years ago <_<....
[05:40] <VitaminG> d: that's stange, I've never seen a good cd fail at the end of the installation, they usually fail nearer the start.
[05:40] <eternaljoy> liquidten2: what?
[05:40] <typhoid> oi!  my kbs don't usually last a year hehehheheh
[05:41] <phargle> you're using a 486?
[05:41] <cowmilk2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19535 <-- bimberi
[05:41] <rixth> liquidten2, do the keys click realll good?
[05:41] <typhoid> install from a jumpdrive!
[05:41] <VitaminG> phoul: have you tried the verify cd option at the cd's boot menu?
[05:41] <typhoid> <needs more cowbell>
[05:41] <Phoul> he claims it didnt give him a option
[05:41] <Red_Drag0n> n00b here with question
[05:41] <Phoul> Hes using the "desktop install" cds
[05:41] <Phoul> cd*
[05:41] <Grisen1> Warbo:  sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy   Returned : "you must specify the filesystem type"
[05:41] <_chris__> anyone know how to change the ubuntu orange/red icon? in gnome the menu bar and the main menu icon?
[05:42] <liquidten2> phargie:  Nope, but I still have the same keyboard I used with that PC(it's now sitting in my garage doing absolutely nothing.)
[05:42] <phargle> i wanted a keyb with half travel keys, like a laptop has
[05:42] <rixth> Warbo, can't find anything about listen?
[05:42] <typhoid> sudo mount -fs vfat /de/.. ?
[05:42] <phargle> so i got one
[05:42] <d> VitaminG, I dont get to install, i hit start/install, it loads packets, then seems to act wierd and takes me to prompt..and the prompt does not seem to display right either.  then i get that error when using startx
[05:42] <ardy> liquidten2, I'll cek already noting wrong with my configuration
[05:42] <cowmilk2> bimberi: should i also uncomment the lines with deb-src?
[05:42] <turing> grisen1 sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy
[05:42] <section31> anyone know how i can make my home and end keys work correctly using putty in the bash env.
[05:42] <VitaminG> you might have to hit a key as it starts to boot from the cd, to keep it from automatically booting the livecd, I've had that happen, but it doesn't always.
[05:42] <ardy> liquidten2, when i try to login to yahoo mail I always get this page "The requested URL /ym/login was not found on this server."
[05:43] <turing> section31 use shift-pageup  and shift-pagedown  ?  that work for you?
[05:43] <stefg> http://listengnome.free.fr/
[05:43] <Warbo> rixth: listengnome.free.fr I think
[05:43] <ardy> liquidten2, when i try to login to yahoo mail I always get this page "The requested URL /ym/login was not found on this server." Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2 Server at us.f517.mail.yahoo.com Port 80
[05:43] <bimberi> cowmilk2: no, only if you want to start compiling stuff yourself, that gives you access to the source code
[05:43] <VitaminG> I don't remember which key, though.
[05:43] <h3h_timo> Open Question: If i already have the 686 kernel installed, and then i install the 686-smp kernel, the boot, will i choose an actual 686-smp kernel, because there wasnt one appearing when i restarted???
[05:43] <Warbo> (or gnomelisten)
[05:43] <liquidten2> ardy:  That DEFINITELY sounds like a problem with Yahoo, not your PC.
[05:43] <typhoid> well.. with the new install cd, it boots to the isolinux.. then you install once you are in your isolinux i think
[05:43] <section31> stefg,tha makes page up and page down work
[05:43] <Cainus> anyone got a clue on why sshd might not run on start-up?  it's set to run in /etc/rc5.d ... is there any error log I can read to see if something's going wrong?
[05:43] <turing> h3h_timo when you open up top
[05:43] <rixth> Holy moly that page abuses xmlhttprequest :)
[05:43] <typhoid> h3h, i used the 686 and it sees my core duo as 2 cpus..
[05:43] <Grisen1> Warbo:  returned: " wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
[05:43] <Grisen1>        missing codepage or other error
[05:43] <Grisen1>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:43] <Grisen1>        dmesg | tail  or so"  This is a 3M diskette and format checked out (?)
[05:44] <section31> turing,but lets say i'm typing a long command and I want to go abck to the beginning of that command
[05:44] <section31> i have to use the arrow keys
[05:44] <tritium> Grisen1: I already told you not to paste
[05:44] <typhoid> use the home key section
[05:44] <section31> typhoid,when i use the home key it makes a ~
[05:44] <turing> h3h_timo and inside top you press '1', do you see it lists 2 cpus?  cpu0 and cpu1?
[05:44] <ardy> liquidten2, no, If I try on my xp machines it works fine
[05:44] <h3h_timo> typhoid, how do you tell if it detects both cpus??
[05:44] <rixth> Warbo, how does Listen sort? does "The Rolling Stones" get sorted under R and not T?
[05:44] <turing> section31  control-a brings you to the beginning
[05:44] <Grisen1> Tritium I do not know how to use the other feature, sorry
[05:44] <h3h_timo> turing, yes
[05:44] <turing> section31 and control-e brings you to the end of the line
[05:44] <tritium> !pastebin
[05:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:44] <section31> turing,wow that works
[05:44] <bimberi> h3h_timo: linux-686 and linux-686-smp have the same dependencies in dapper.  So if you already had linux-686 then you've got the smp already
[05:44] <typhoid> i can tell using the system monitor, though i don't know the command line for it
[05:45] <turing> h3h_timo then you're running an SMP kernel
[05:45] <h3h_timo> i just brought up the system monitor typhoid
[05:45] <Grisen1> Warbo, please look at the command line message returned
[05:45] <liquidten2> ardy:  what is the output when you type in "ping us.f517.mail.yahoo.com"?
[05:45] <typhoid> in my system monitor, it has one line for cpu 1 , one for cpu 2...
[05:45] <turing> which brings me to my question...
[05:45] <turing> open question, I've got a pentium D, top shows 2 cpus, I want a load monitor for the panel that shows both cpus, anyone got suggestions?
[05:45] <typhoid> when i boot 386, tis only 1 line!
[05:45] <h3h_timo> turing, ever since i installed the 686 kernel, my system seems infinitely faster than it did before
[05:46] <turing> typhoid, which system monitor?
[05:46] <tritium> turing: please hold off a while.  You have been repeating rather often.
[05:46] <Warbo> Grisen1: Seems floppy support isn't all it's cracked up to be
[05:46] <liquidten2> typhoid:  I don't really know if that exists at the moment, at least not one for the panel.
[05:46] <Warbo> Grisen1: My floppy drives don't work :(
[05:46] <h3h_timo> turing, ive been messin with it, and havent figure anything else yet
[05:46] <ardy> liquidten2, 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=0.067 ms
[05:46] <typhoid> 'tis system monitor 2.14.3
[05:46] <Warbo> Grisen1: You could just install on hda........
[05:47] <liquidten2> ardy:  Well see, from the looks of it, all outbound traffic is being redirected to localhost
[05:47] <turing> h3h_timo, well you're now having a whole cpu to deal w/ your desktop and another one for whatever app you're using, so the machine won't lock up or pause as much
[05:47] <Grisen1> My drive works fine-- just used it with 10 sequential Acronis diskettes on this machine when I 'lost' the CD drive under win98
[05:47] <ardy> liquidten2, then what should I do?
[05:47] <h3h_timo> turing, so thats how it deals with what does what?
[05:47] <cowmilk2> bimberi: do you suggest my uncommenting the backports repo, too?
[05:47] <turing> tritium, yessir holding off
[05:47] <cowmilk2> !backports
[05:47] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[05:47] <d> anyone else have any insight on fatal server error: screens not found?
[05:47] <typhoid> how can you tell if your outbound is being redirected?  i think something fishy is going on w/ my wireless.. it is really really slow for most things, but.. like synaptic is really fast..
[05:47] <liquidten2> ardy:  What is the output of "cat /etc/hosts"?  Usually when that happens you have a line in /etc/hosts that shouldn't be in there.
[05:48] <Grisen1> Warbo, so you believe this floppy is bad also?
[05:48] <tritium> turing: thanks :)
[05:48] <typhoid> it takes forever to connect to irc servers, to im clients and to http sources &~&~
[05:48] <bimberi> cowmilk2: no, only if you know you need to
[05:48] <turing> h3h_timo, I'm tired, I'll summarize with, yep it's better, lots better
[05:48] <Grisen1> The formatting checked out
[05:48] <cowmilk2> is there anybody here who discourges uncommenting of the backports? if so, why?
[05:48] <Warbo> Grisen1: Either that or Ubuntu doesn't like your hardware I'm afraid
[05:48] <cowmilk2> bimberi: why only when i need to? why not uncomment it now?
[05:48] <Grisen1> Can I burn a boot CD?
[05:48] <h3h_timo> turing, lol thanks, ill read more about it later, but one more quick question, can i install the same programs with 686 than i did with 386??
[05:48] <ardy> liquidten2, can I paste it in pastebin
[05:49] <liquidten2> ardy: go ahead
[05:49] <typhoid> h3h.. im pretty sure you can
[05:49] <rixth> Warbo, ipod support?! last.fm support (not just submitting)? wikipedia viewing? Brilliant!
[05:49] <turing> h3h_timo, yep shouldn't be any differences, it's just more code in your kernel that lets it know about both CPUs
[05:49] <typhoid> duocore/dual procs != x64
[05:49] <Grisen1> Warbo, can I burn a boot CD?
[05:50] <h3h_timo> alright, thanks youve been alot of help
[05:50] <turing> h3h_timo, which isn't to say that there aren't things that'll break when you're using a SMP kernel, but I wouldn't think that's too commen
[05:50] <Bearcat> hey folks. I'm trying to help someone over the phone. Where is kcontrol in the menu system
[05:50] <Warbo> Grisen1: I have written a Wiki page which involves that, I'll just find it
[05:50] <h3h_timo> turing, oh, nvm, one more thing again, is 64 bit better than dual core??
[05:50] <ardy> liquidten2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19537
[05:50] <liquidten2> Bearcat:  you know, ever since kde 3.3 or so I can't find it either.  I'd tell him to just run "kcontrol" from the Konsole...
[05:50] <rixth> h3h_timo, afaik all dual core CPUs are 64 bit.
[05:50] <stefg> Bearcat: #kubuntu might be a better olace to ask that
[05:50] <rixth> With the exception os some Xeons
[05:51] <Bearcat> liquidten2: thanks
[05:51] <h3h_timo> rixth, really?
[05:51] <sasquatch> rixth: and the Core Duos...
[05:51] <h3h_timo> so could you install a 64bit distro on a dual core machine??
[05:51] <bimberi> cowmilk2: my rule of thumb is to only have them enabled for installs, not upgrades. others may differ. i only want to use backports when i absolutely have to
[05:51] <h3h_timo> rixth, but not my centrino duo??
[05:51] <typhoid> um...
[05:52] <jdmpike_> can anyone tell me about booting from SATA drives?
[05:52] <typhoid> im pretty sure duocores != x64...
[05:52] <odin__> can I install Ubuntu on a SATA HD using an IDE HD that already has ubuntu installed?
[05:52] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: all core duos are not 64 bit...
[05:52] <jdmpike_> is is possible?
[05:52] <sid> Why doesn't Ubuntu say "GNU / Linux" like debian does?
[05:52] <sasquatch> the Core 2 Duos are though :-)
[05:52] <turing> h3h_timo, my opinion...I'll never use a non dual-core or non smp machine again.  With a single core machine (even 64 bit) if a single application goes wonky and takes up 100% of the CPU, your system becomes unresponsive as all resources are devoted to the bad application/process.  With SMP or dual core you've got a whole other CPU that isn't being used at 100% that you can use to kill the runaway process
[05:52] <odin__> jdmpike_, what a coincidence
[05:52] <rixth> Woah, i thought Duo's were 64.
[05:52] <Warbo> Grisen1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB <- That is a bit more in-depth than what you want, but you can follow the CD bit (don't bother with the mkinitramfs stuff, and remember your drive is hdb1)
[05:52] <Grisen1> Warbo:  Worked with a different floppy (!)  what's next
[05:52] <sasquatch> rixth: nope
[05:52] <Warbo> Grisen1: Oh, OK
[05:52] <sasquatch> Merom will be though :-)
[05:52] <Warbo> Grisen1: It is mounted at /grubfloppy?
[05:52] <ajt> Does anyone have any experience setting up a wireless card in Ubuntu without X windows installed?
[05:52] <Grisen1> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy
[05:53] <typhoid> nah.. duos is just like.. it acts like 2 cpus..   64 means it has 64 bits of memory addresses... you could i suppose have 64 bit duocores but they are not the same thing
[05:53] <h3h_timo> turing, good point, and sasquatch, if i upgrade to a core 2 duo, i would be 64 bit eh?? what are the advantages of 64 bit?
[05:53] <jdmpike_> odin__, I installed xubuntu to /dev/sda1 and reclaimed /dev/hda1 that I had ubuntu on, I just rebooted and now I don't work!
[05:53] <typhoid> 64 bit is good .. if you have 64 bit proggies that can use the extra memory addressing..
[05:53] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: umm, it can run 64-bit apps.. and because the bus is wider, it theoritically is faster
[05:53] <Warbo> Grisen1: OK "sudo mkdir /grubfloppy/boot && sudo cp -r /mnt/boot/grub /grubfloppy/boot"
[05:53] <odin__> jdmpike_, well I'll make srue not to do that then
[05:53] <odin__> sure*
[05:53] <sasquatch> typhoid: but laptops don't have that many DIMMs anyways...
[05:53] <typhoid> some of the 64 bit procs can act like duo cores but i've not like, figured out how to make mine do it yet heh
[05:54] <ardy> liquidten2, do you have any idea about it?
[05:54] <sasquatch> typhoid: errr... 64-bit and dual core are unrelated
[05:54] <h3h_timo> sasquatch, well, im running one of the cheaper centrino duo's, but it flies, i dont understand why you would need anything more, or if it would be worth upgrading to core 2..??
[05:54] <liquidten2> ardy: I'm stumped at the moment.  Your /etc/hosts looks fine to me...
[05:54] <typhoid> it's not about dimms.. it's like.. 32 bit procs have fingers in 32 bits worth of memory at a time.. while 64 bit can address 64 bits at once..
[05:54] <Grisen1> Warbo: "mkdir: cannot create directory `/grubfloppy/boot': Input/output error"
[05:54] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: well, in the futures, there are going to be a lot more 63-bit apps...
[05:54] <sasquatch> *64
[05:54] <typhoid> sasquach -- that's what i'm trying to say lol
[05:54] <Warbo> 64bit is becoming popular at the time dual core is, so many duals are 64bit and vice versa, but they do not imply each other
[05:55] <sasquatch> typhoid: yes.. they have a wider bus... haha
[05:55] <ardy> liquidten2, yeah same to me... I dont know why it redirected to my localhost
[05:55] <turing> h3h_timo 64 bit's kinda in it's infancy at the moment.  if you have HUGE applications that need lots of memory it's great, and if your apps are 64 bit apps.  But a 64 bit processor will generally run a 32 bit application slower than a same MHz 32 bit processor will.  Because of all the extra overhead of moving 64 bit stuff around
[05:55] <Warbo> Grisen1: Ermm.. You know when you said it had worked? :)
[05:55] <typhoid> but the 64 .. it makes no difference if you are running an os that is not 64 bit addressable and .. if you're not running proggies that were compiled to access 64 bits or whatever..
[05:55] <sasquatch> turing: hehe, i have mathematica in 64-bit mode :-)
[05:55] <turing> warbo's git it on the button
[05:55] <sasquatch> it runs much better
[05:55] <typhoid> aye.. what turing said..  x64 procs run 32 bit apps in a sort of emulated mode
[05:55] <h3h_timo> turing, so at this point, it doesnt really matter?
[05:56] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: not a bit
[05:56] <alleyoopster> good morning everyone
[05:56] <sasquatch> anyone seen the new nVidia quadroplex?
[05:56] <turing> h3h_timo if you're the kinda person that's gonna run gentoo linux and compile everything to be 64 bit yourself... you'll probably see better performance from a 64 bit dual core proc than a 32 bit dual core proc
[05:56] <bigbill52a> does anyone know if automatix will work with amd-64 ubuntu?
[05:56] <turing> but at this point...not so much
[05:57] <sasquatch> it allows about 8 or something Quadros to be linked together... 8 billion pixels per second o.O
[05:57] <turing> h3h_timo but I haven't looked into 64 but ubuntu at all
[05:57] <Warbo> bigbill52a: I think there is an amd64 version
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> What is a good photo editing program?
[05:57] <odin__> so does anybody know how to install Breezy Badger on a SATA hard drive?
[05:57] <sasquatch> Jack_Sparrow: gimp...
[05:57] <Warbo> GIMP?
[05:57] <typhoid> i'm pretty sure 64 bit ubuntu still runs 32 bit apps in emulation mode, just like win64 does
[05:57] <turing> jack_sparrow...the GIMP?
[05:57] <liquidten2> Jack_Sparrow: gimp
[05:57] <sasquatch> haha
[05:57] <liquidten2> well there ya go..
[05:57] <Grisen1> Warbo:  mount command returned this now: mount: according to mtab, /dev/fd0 is already mounted on /grubfloppy
[05:57] <Grisen1> Diskette drive hummed first, and returned that.  I know this floppy is good-- pulled it from my Acronis series.  Do I need to reformat or erase first?
[05:57] <sasquatch> we are all in agreement, the GIMP it is
[05:58] <sasquatch> Jack_Sparrow: for basic tools, you can also try the linux version of Google's Picasa
[05:58] <Warbo> Grisen1: Yes, it is already mounted, but looks like it is fscked (I/O errors are very bad)
[05:58] <bigbill52a> warbo ...is it the same one on ubuntuguide?
[05:58] <h3h_timo> turing, welp, i tried gentoo before, couldnt ever even get it running, so i tried ubuntu, and been in love with it ever since
[05:58] <sasquatch> and by basic, i mean... very basic
[05:58] <alleyoopster> I was wondering is someone can check out 2 websites for me for music browsers, they both seem to be down. Is it a problem just for me or are they really dead? http://www.exaile.org/ and http://exodus.xmms.se/
[05:58] <Warbo> bigbill52a: Try whatever the automatix site is
[05:58] <turing> jack_sparrow...unless you're using windows, in which case I think there's something called "Gimpshop" to try out :)
[05:58] <bigbill52a> ok
[05:58] <typhoid> my college roomie spent like 2 years setting up a gentoo distro lol
[05:58] <iNToIT> sup
[05:58] <typhoid> then he accidentally wiped the drive >< ><
[05:58] <sasquatch> bigbill52a: is Automatix on sourceforge? because there's probably an AMD64 binary you could compile anyways
[05:58] <turing> h3h_timo then stick w/ ubuntu, run for a while and on your next upgrade go 64 bit
[05:59] <turing> h3h, but not at the expense of loosing dual core
[05:59] <dad_> can someone help me get opengl compiling working?
[05:59] <Warbo> Automatic is a script, so I don't think it needs to be compiled at all, it just needs to make sure it doesn't install 386 stuff
[05:59] <sasquatch> turing: i don't know how i ever survived without dual core...
[05:59] <Grisen1> Sorry, this diskette with 9 others just 2 weeks ago ran Acronis on this system when it couldn't find its Cd after a BIOS update.  The diskette is good.  I will try formatting and repeat the mount command.
[05:59] <typhoid> for the average desktop user (read: for non-server machines, non-science machines) -- duo-core > 64 bit  (imho)
[05:59] <sasquatch> Warbo: ah, that makes sense
[05:59] <h3h_timo> turing, thanks, im learning so much from the nightcrew
[06:00] <liquidten2> sasquatch: I've never even used a dual core in _my entire life_ and I get along fine <_<
[06:00] <sasquatch> typhoid: but servers usually have more than 1 processor anyways :-)
[06:00] <sasquatch> liquidten2: once you go dual, you can't go back man...
[06:00] <turing> I'm in agreement w/ typhoid
[06:00] <sasquatch> EVERYTHING runs faster... smoother...
[06:00] <typhoid> good point sasquach =D
[06:00] <h3h_timo> sasquatch, its true, i cant remember once ever being lockedup
[06:01] <danf_1979> I tried to search for md5 package but it does not exist. What package in the repos let me calculate the md5sum?
[06:01] <Warbo> How can I copy all of the hidden folders and files from one folder into another? I was thinking: cp -r `ls -A | grep -v " "` destination
[06:01] <typhoid> i just got this laptop like a week ago.. it's my first dual core and.. i can tell a giant difference.. it is just so smooth and fast!
[06:01] <iNToIT> tell me
[06:01] <Grisen1> Warbo, how do I unmount that diskette so I can format and erase and finish please?
[06:01] <DanaG> I love dual core.
[06:01] <h3h_timo> typhoid, what kind of laptop??
[06:01] <Warbo> Grisen1: sudo umount /grubfloppy
[06:01] <DanaG> I just need to figure out how to replicate SuSE's nice udev rules in Ubuntu.
[06:01] <Grisen1> tks
[06:01] <typhoid> it's a dell inspiron e1505 =D
[06:02] <dad_> i'm trying to compile nehe's first opengl tutorial, but its saying cannot find -lX11, I already installed the GL stuff fine, I'm pretty sure I have -lX11 but it can't find it
[06:02] <sasquatch> typhoid: sweet :-)
[06:02] <liquidten2> sasquatch: I've had this PC for about 7 years now, and every time I think about going 64bit/multi-cpu/smp/etc all I need to do is look at my bank statement....
[06:02] <sasquatch> i'm running ubuntu on my laptop too
[06:02] <alleyoopster> People are these websites dead or do I have a problem - http://exodus.xmms.se/ and  http://www.exaile.org/. Thanks
[06:02] <Warbo> alleyoopster: The XMMS one doesn't work for me
[06:02] <sasquatch> liquidten2: haha, fair enough, but you can get a dual core computer for about 600 bucks...
[06:02] <sasquatch> DYI
[06:02] <liquidten2> dad_: You're going to need to install the corresponding -dev packages
[06:02] <sasquatch> you need time though...
[06:02] <dad_> I'm pretty sure that I already did
[06:02] <odin__> so, I take it nobody on here can help me with this SATA prob?
[06:02] <alleyoopster> Warbo: thanks
[06:02] <dad_> I'll check again
[06:02] <sasquatch> downside of DIY
[06:02] <liquidten2> dad_: such as xserver-xorg-whateverthehellitis-dev or mesagl-dev/etc-dev
[06:02] <h3h_timo> typhoid, i got an acer aspire 5672 WLMi, it was a little over a grand, and i love it
[06:03] <typhoid> aye.. i had to get a new one before grad school starts.. my old one was just not cutting it anymore ><    the first thing i did was wipe that dell/windows garbage off and put this on = D  i'm so glad i did..  no way im going to pay for that vista crap ><
[06:03] <dad_> ok thanks, I don't think I got that
[06:03] <sasquatch> odin__: what's the problem?
[06:03] <Warbo> Building your own computers isn't that much cheaper these days. The only advantage is getting exactly what you want
[06:03] <h3h_timo> typhoid, i still have windows, but i never use it, unless im playing oblivion :)
[06:03] <odin__> man, I got this OLD laptop for $160 off eBay, runs Pentium II, and I like it
[06:03] <typhoid> i think i paid 1500 or so for mine, but it was on a one-day 400$ off deal, so i got pretty lucky
[06:03] <sasquatch> typhoid: i got a Dell XPS M1210 :-)
[06:03] <sasquatch> i got 600 canadian off it
[06:03] <typhoid> haha!  i still have windows on my desktop, just for oblivion as well
[06:03] <sasquatch> typhoid: i have windows for half-life 2:-)
[06:03] <typhoid> oo i wanted an xps but none were in my price range
[06:03] <h3h_timo> typhoid, thats sweet, what kind of video card do you have???
[06:04] <Warbo> It's sad that if you don't want Windows for Oblivion, then you need an Xbox :(
[06:04] <odin__> sasquatch, I just learned the hard way that I can't do a fresh install of Ubuntu onto a SATA hard drive, so I was wondering if I could somehow install it using an IDE hard drive with it already installed
[06:04] <sasquatch> typhoid: hmm, i got a very sweet deal on this, only 1500 canadian
[06:04] <liquidten2> typhoid: My PC I paid about 400$ for, then about 200$ in upgrades over the years(Sound card, video card, DVD/cdrw/etc combo drive) and I don't think i'm ever going to buy another desktop again.
[06:04] <typhoid> i don't remember but i paid an extra 200 dollars for it.. it's a pretty nice one but.. off the top of my head, i forget
[06:04] <Sedated> anybody got some tips for dual displays with the fglrx driver
[06:04] <Sedated> ?
[06:04] <h3h_timo> mines a radion x1600
[06:04] <sasquatch> odin__: oh... hmmm, that's tough, certain SATA drivers still don't work
[06:04] <h3h_timo> almost the best in the mobile line
[06:04] <typhoid> my desktop is also a server..  it will be around for years, methinks..
[06:05] <typhoid> hopefully wine will evolve enough to play all my games on and i can just totally switch from the m$ beast
[06:05] <sasquatch> typhoid: i'm running my old laptop as a server... haha
[06:05] <turing> just to throw out into the void a great find I found, the gparted live cd is WONDERFUL.  It'll let you shrink/grow partitions, copy them, move them, slice them, dice them, make windows shrink until it squeals...it's wonderful
[06:05] <odin__> sasquatch, tsk, what a shame, and I got this 250GB drive just for my little linux machine too
[06:05] <sasquatch> it uses so little power :-)
[06:05] <eternaljoy> shall I type apr-get clean after upgrading?
[06:05] <rixth> Warbo, Listen is AMAZING. Pretty UI, lyrics, Wikipedia... ahh
[06:05] <sasquatch> odin__: hmmm, can you reformat it using the install disk?
[06:05] <dad_> right now I'm running on a small form factor HP desktop with a Pent 3 933 mHz that I got on ebay for $30
[06:05] <danf_1979> sasquatch, what services? :)
[06:05] <h3h_timo> rixth, what is Listen??
[06:05] <turing> typhoid, have you use crossover office and tried that out?
[06:05] <rixth> Warbo, much more resource friendly that RB too
[06:05] <rixth> h3h_timo, music player
[06:05] <typhoid> i've got 2 more boxes in the closet,..  it is just not as exciting now adays to bugger with those old machines , so.. they just sit there.. though  they would make some nice servers
[06:06] <sasquatch> danf_1979: just apache right now
[06:06] <liquidten2> rixth: what's the URL?
[06:06] <odin__> sasquatch, reformat what?  the SATA hd?  it doesn't even detect it when it comes to the partitioning part
[06:06] <h3h_timo> rixth, really? instal with apt-get??
[06:06] <stefg> eternaljoy: better sudo apt-get autoclean, that leaves the new packages in cache
[06:06] <Warbo> rixth: I added the repo to this LiveCD session especially :)
[06:06] <typhoid> my 'desktop' though has 4 raptors (2 raids) and .. well, it's a monster =D    it will be nice to take windows off of it one day
[06:06] <sasquatch> odin__: oh.. crap... hmmm... google to see if there's any 3rd party drivers...
[06:06] <Grisen1> Warbo, no I/O error this time.  Can we check the contents of the floppy?  Or just try it...
[06:06] <sasquatch> i dunno, SATA can be a bitch for some reason
[06:06] <rixth> http://listengnome.free.fr/ if you want to get via apt-get, you have to add the repo deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/ dapper listen
[06:06] <turing> typhoid, what suggestions for inexpensive raid 5 cards for linux?
[06:06] <sasquatch> i still have problems with my other SATA drive that uses a 3rd party driver
[06:07] <Warbo> Grisen1: You have copied grub folder across?
[06:07] <typhoid> inexpensive raid 5?  is there such a thing?
[06:07] <odin__> can I really install drivers on a hard drive that doesn't even have an OS yet?
[06:07] <Grisen1> sudo mkdir /grubfloppy/boot && sudo cp -r /mnt/boot/grub /grubfloppy/boot
[06:07] <phargle> they load into memory
[06:07] <Warbo> Grisen1: Wow, then "sudo grub-install /dev/fd0" should work now
[06:07] <rixth> Warbo, my only gripe is that artists starting with The get sorted under T and not the main artist name (iTunes, Windows Media etc do this)
[06:07] <sasquatch> odin__: lol.. well, i you sould need another hard disk.. i'm not too sure...
[06:07] <typhoid> i'm running raid 1 on mine, with the onboard controllers..  i don't have the loot to pay for nice controller cards ><
[06:07] <h3h_timo> rixth, why dont you make a tutorial in the ubuntu wiki??
[06:07] <eternaljoy> stefg: why I need the the new packages in cache?
[06:07] <liquidten2> rixth:  It looks a LOT like rhythmbox with an extra sidebar >_>
[06:07] <Warbo> rixth: I set my tags to "Artist, The"
[06:08] <turing> typhoid haha, or I guess how much should I be forking out?  or are you using a JBOD or other non RAID 5 level?
[06:08] <bruenig> does anyone know where I can find cmd.exe the windows command line and be able to download it, I need it for something I want to try in wine
[06:08] <sasquatch> rixth: i do the same as Warbo, works fine
[06:08] <eternaljoy> stefg: why I need the new packages in cache after they been installed?
[06:08] <sasquatch> i think the new Amarok does it automaticall anyways
[06:08] <ToHellWithGA> i need some help with nxclient.  are there any particular ports i need to open besides the standard "22" to get a connection?
[06:08] <turing> typhoid...but w/ RAID 1 you're quadroupling your likelyhood of catastrophic failure
[06:08] <odin__> sasquatch, well I still at least have this hard disk that I'm using right now
[06:08] <phargle> ew
[06:08] <stefg> maybe you need to reinstall one of them, just for good measure
[06:08] <turing> any 1 drive dies and you loose it all
[06:08] <sasquatch> odin__: hmm, i'm not too sure though... you might want to post on forums where the real pros are
[06:08] <eternaljoy> why does Juicer spin my Audio CD like crazy and run realy slow to copy?  Any fix?
[06:09] <typhoid> aye.. i'm not using raid 5..   it's not like.. it isn't hotswappable or anything... just striped and mirrored.. the higher raid levels, they can get pretty expensive..   the last time i was considering getting one,  i think it was something like 3000 USD for a smooth controller
[06:09] <sasquatch> Warbo: AmaroK is possibly the best music client on any system :-)
[06:09] <stefg> eternaljoy: but if you're really short of diskspace and have ample bandwidth... apt-get clean is fine
[06:09] <odin__> sasquatch, been scanning forums off of google, finding questions but little in answers unless I might be running PCLinux or RedHat or some-such
[06:09] <ReWT_AxS> Do I need something special to install samba on a 64 bit using Dapper?
[06:09] <h3h_timo> rixth, it does look like rhythmbox... do you like amarok??
[06:09] <sasquatch> odin__: try the posting on the ubuntu forums, someone might know
[06:10] <eternaljoy> stefg: ok ty
[06:10] <rixth> h3h_timo, it is much better =) I don't like amarok
[06:10] <turing> typhoid, I've been seeing good ones new for 600, considering some around 300.  But 300's a bit too much for me to bite on for home at this point...maybe I need  more server-oriented consulting projects
[06:10] <liquidten2> I still like rhythmbox more, for 1.  It blends in with my desktops(If i'm in Gnome, Windowmaker, or Icewm, simply because 99.5% of my apps are GTK2) and 2.  rhythmbox-applet for the panel
[06:10] <h3h_timo> rixth, reason for not liking??
[06:10] <odin__> sasquatch, I'll give it a shot, thanks
[06:10] <eternaljoy> stefg: why would I need to keep the files in the cache seeing they already been installed?
[06:10] <sasquatch> odin__: sorry i couldn't be of more help :-(
[06:10] <rixth> Don't like KDE
[06:10] <Grisen1> Warbo:  sudo grub-install /dev/fd0 "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."  Why do the other commands work and not this one?
[06:10] <h3h_timo> turing, is there a way to put a monitor for both cores on the panel??
[06:10] <Warbo> Listen needs some shortcut keys like Super-B is skip for Amarok
[06:10] <sasquatch> rixth: KDE does use up a lot of resources...
[06:10] <typhoid> aye..  my  box mainly serves music and stuff (locally)... that, and development
 all this discussion about mp3 players, just dd the mp3 to your audio device... </sarcasm>
[06:10] <typhoid> we've got dedicated servers connected to hubs for the real work  *~
[06:11] <Warbo> Grisen1: Try unmounting it first "sudo umount /grubfloppy"
[06:11] <typhoid> by hubs, i  mean they are in texas lol
[06:11] <Grisen1> ok
[06:11] <sasquatch> turing: the sarcasm tag things work better if you only add it at the end :-P
[06:11] <turing> h3h_timo, you're baiting me, right?
[06:11] <duncanm> hola, anyone know how i can turn off "CIFS Unix extensions"?
[06:11] <h3h_timo> what?? lol
[06:11] <sasquatch> for example, turing is a freaking genius! </sarcasm>
[06:11] <typhoid> lol turing
[06:11] <duncanm> samba is trying to map the UIDs for me, and it's just screwing things up
[06:11] <dxdemetriou> The new version of mplayer will be added in repositories for Dapper, or will must wait for the Edgy?
[06:11] <typhoid> well..  it's bad form to have a closing tag with no opener
[06:12] <turing> h3h_timo, that question is the reason I signed on tonight, no one has answered me yet
[06:12] <typhoid> like,  <sarcasm> come on guys, grammar is for losers </sarcasm>
[06:12] <Grisen1> Warbo:  "umount: /grubfloppy: not mounted"
[06:12] <sasquatch> typhoid: let tidy sort it out :-P
[06:12] <h3h_timo> turing, you just want to monitor??? lol thats cool cuz i want to.. im gonna look
[06:12] <Warbo> Grisen1: Try "ls /grubfloppy"
[06:12] <typhoid> haha!
[06:12] <turing> sasquatch, I don't understand...you said a true statement then added that unmatched sarcasm tag...just didn't make any sense :)
[06:12] <liquidten2> Grisen1: just cat /etc/mtab to see if it is actually mounted
[06:13] <sasquatch> turing: haha, well, now we know who's ego is bloated :-)
[06:13] <cowmilk2> so i've just added "japanese" in Settings/Language Support. So how do i type in Japanese now? Do i have to restart the computer?
[06:13] <rixth> Warbo, does listen touch the tags of a file though?
[06:13] <Warbo> liquidten2: I think he has just copied stuff to a folder with no floppy mounted in it
[06:13] <cowmilk2> 	correction: Not Settings/Language Support, but "System/Language Support"
[06:13] <cowmilk2> and i'm in xubuntu
[06:13] <stefg> would turing, h3h_timo and typhoid mind taking that over to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:13] <Warbo> rixth: I think so
[06:13] <typhoid> cowmilk2 -- methinks you need a new keyboard?
[06:13] <Cartm4n> ping
[06:13] <cowmilk2> typhoid: what?
[06:13] <rixth> Warbo, argh!
[06:13] <Grisen1> Warbo:  Yes, returned "boot" in blue letters and then command line
[06:13] <sasquatch> cowmilk2: you need to boot up SCIM
[06:13] <Cartm4n> ping
[06:13] <cowmilk2> sasquatch: how do i boot it up?
[06:13] <typhoid> taking what over to offtopic?
[06:13] <Cartm4n> ping
[06:13] <liquidten2> pong
[06:13] <Warbo> rixth: What?  You have NOT copied GRUB onto a floppy disc, since the disc was not mounted when you copied it across
[06:14] <duncanm> anyone use samba on both a linux server and a linux client?
[06:14] <rixth> Warbo, all my tags are pristine, my file structure is the same everywhere... I really don't want someting messing with it eh.
[06:14] <Cartm4n> die ubuntu
[06:14] <Cartm4n> ubuntu die
[06:14] <rixth> Die Cartm4n, give NZ a bad name
[06:14] <typhoid> ubuntu is saving the world from windows as we speek
[06:15] <stefg> duncanm: that's a pretty common scenario
[06:15] <Grisen1> Okay...
[06:15] <sasquatch> cowmilk2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[06:15] <sasquatch> !help SCIM
[06:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about help SCIM - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:15] <Warbo> rixth: My filesystem used to have a nice stucture, but I couldn't be bothered to stick to it
[06:15] <h3h_timo> typhoid, its true
[06:15] <J2D2> what is a good system monitor for dapper?
[06:15] <Cornellius> !info scim
[06:15] <ubotu> scim: smart common input method platform. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.4.4-1ubuntu12 (dapper), package size 751 kB, installed size 1872 kB
[06:15] <turing> typhoid, I think apple's doing the same thing
[06:15] <duncanm> stefg: i'm having trouble mounting if my UID is not the same across server/client
[06:15] <Warbo> J2D2: Gkrellm
[06:15] <sasquatch> Cornellius: thanks :-) i always forget the bot commands...
[06:15] <duncanm> stefg: in fact, i can mount okay but the UID on the client is the one from the server, which is not what i want
[06:15] <typhoid> can you recompile an apple kernel?
[06:15] <J2D2> can you get it via apt-get Warbo
[06:15] <cowmilk2> sasquatch: oh, it says i have to log out and in.
[06:16] <cowmilk2> so see you in a bit
[06:16] <stefg> duncam
[06:16] <cowmilk2> sasquatch: thanks!!!
[06:16] <stefg> !samba
[06:16] <Warbo> J2D2: There are quite a few packages
[06:16] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:16] <sasquatch> cowmilk2: no prob
[06:16] <liquidten2> On slackware for scim, all I have to do is add "scim -d" to my .xinitrc and then add  "export XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM" to my .bashrc, and then press ctrl+space to type
[06:16] <Warbo> !info gkrellmd
[06:16] <ubotu> gkrellmd: multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [daemon] . In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 77 kB, installed size 196 kB
[06:16] <sasquatch> i look forward to chattin in japanese with you :-)
[06:16] <sasquatch> typhoid: you mean Darwin?
[06:16] <liquidten2> I too need scim for Japanese
[06:17] <Cartm4n> rixth are you from nz?
[06:17] <Cartm4n> rixth what city?
[06:17] <Cartm4n> rixth are you from nz?
[06:17] <typhoid> sasquatch: i'm not sure..  but i don't know how apple is saving anyone if they still charge for their OS
[06:17] <sasquatch>
[06:17] <rixth> I am not telling you because I don't wise to associate with you.
[06:17] <rixth> Wish, rather
[06:17] <sasquatch> typhoid: well, their kernel is open source
[06:17] <kaffien> having some issues with ubuntu
[06:17] <turing> warbo, do you have an additional explaination of what gkrellmd does?
[06:17] <h3h_timo> typhoid, is mac osx expensive?
[06:17] <sasquatch> Darwin is based ond BSD
[06:17] <Cartm4n> rixth you are grumpy
[06:17] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: yes.. very
[06:17] <kaffien> i cannot seem to compile nvidia drivers
[06:18] <kaffien> im missing a kernel package but i dont know what i need
[06:18] <Grisen1> Warbo:  The 3 P's,  Persistence, Patience and PLEASE
[06:18] <turing> h3h_timo $70 for students/teachers
[06:18] <duncanm> sasquatch: i think you might want
[06:18] <kaffien> or if i need to make a symlink  for /usr/src/linux
[06:18] <typhoid> I don't know a thing about apple, besides the fact that it's unix based and they seem to me as bad as microsoft, just not as um...  bloodthirsty
[06:18] <h3h_timo> turing, i hate macosx tho
[06:18] <Cartm4n> fuck you rixth
[06:18] <sasquatch> duncanm: nah, i was using it to prove a point :-)
[06:18] <h3h_timo> my friend has it, and i hate it
[06:18] <sasquatch> h3h_timo: it's all eyecandy and no muscle :-)
[06:18] <shawnr_> besides looking in xorg.config, is there a terminal command to tell me what graphics driver x is currently using?
[06:19] <liquidten2> sasquatch:
[06:19] <liquidten2>
[06:19] <h3h_timo> i know.. freakin shiznit, i can do that with my ubuntu (caresses computer) lol... i love the way it looks now
[06:19] <nalioth> rixth: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:19] <dad_> TBH, the first time I ran Ubuntu it sort of reminded me of OSX, how it looks good yet is advanced-usable like windows
[06:19] <sasquatch> liquidten2: sweet :-)
[06:19] <liquidten2> I jsut can't get scim to work in Gaim >_>
[06:19] <nalioth> liquidten2: duncanm sasquatch english please
[06:19] <rixth> nalioth, bollocks to you. _I_ get in trouble while he is telling me to fuck off.
[06:19] <duncanm> liquidten2: right click on the input box
[06:19] <liquidten2> I assume I have to hit shift+enter to send a message through scim?
[06:19] <shawnr_> besides looking in xorg.config, is there a terminal command to tell me what graphics driver x is currently using?
[06:19] <duncanm> liquidten2: make sure the input method is SCIM
[06:19] <sasquatch>
[06:20] <odin__> crap, there's nowhere on the darn ubuntu forum to ask questiosn
[06:20] <odin__> questions*
[06:20] <h3h_timo> rixth, you ever use beep media player??
[06:20] <Warbo> shawnr_: lsmod | grep nv or nvidia or ati or fglrx or whatever
[06:20] <sasquatch> errr...
[06:20] <sasquatch> why was i just kicked?
[06:20] <typhoid> uh oh, we've got a dictator in control of the channel!
[06:20] <liquidten2> (00:20:21) sasquatch left the room (requested by nalioth: "english please").
[06:20] <typhoid> that's my cue to leave for the night methinks
[06:20] <nalioth> sasquatch: i asked you to keep your keyboard switched to English
[06:20] <chris86wm> is there a command for mute?
[06:20] <nalioth> typhoid: seveas is asleep
[06:21] <sasquatch> nalioth: oh... sorry, missed that
[06:21] <shawnr_> Warbo, how do i tell which one is currently in use?
[06:21] <typhoid> take care everyone, thank you for the company!  i'll be back =D
[06:21] <liquidten2> I didn't even know IRC supported the proper encodings for Japanese in the first place <_<
[06:21] <Warbo> shawnr_: If there are multiple then I don't know, but if only one appears then it is in use
[06:21] <sasquatch> liquidten2: it support UTF-8 :-)
[06:21] <Grisen1> Warbo, can we look at the contents of this floppy?
[06:21] <sasquatch> well, certain clients
[06:21] <rixth_> Eugh.
[06:21] <rixth_> Power tripping ops. get over yourselves.
[06:21] <Warbo> Grisen1: Yes. "sudo mount /dev/fd0 /grubfloppy && ls /grubfloppy"
[06:22] <DanaG> aaargh, this /lib/udev/usb_id doesn't tell you what input it expects.
[06:22] <h3h_timo> rixth_, you ever use beep media player?
[06:22] <sasquatch> nalioth: sorry, someone had a question about SCIM earlier, just helping them out and then discussing nationalities...
[06:22] <Grisen1> Warbo: okay, mounted, now what?
[06:22] <sasquatch> rixth_: meh...
[06:22] <shawnr_> Warbo, they all do lol. even ati, and i have nvidia
[06:22] <duncanm> liquidten2: does that work now?
[06:22] <rixth_> h3h_timo: nope, I have used XMMS though. Have they started the rewrite from scracth like they sai they were?
[06:22] <Warbo> Just copied 50978 files in about a minute. They are all tiny, but it is still satisfying to see the numbers flying past :)
[06:23] <alleyoopster> XMMS2 is underway
[06:23] <dad_> heh, yea it is
[06:23] <h3h_timo> rixth, i have no idea, i just wish xmms had a good library tool
[06:23] <h3h_timo> rixth, the only app i can find with a good library manager for linux is amarok
[06:23] <Warbo> Grisen1: "ls foldername" will list the contents of folder "foldername", so "ls /grubfloppy"
[06:23] <sasquatch> just out of curiousity... why is this an english only channel?
[06:23] <rixth_> I never liked winamp in the first place so xmms didnt appleal :)
[06:23] <liquidten2> duncanm:  Both SCIM input method and X Input method work, but when I go to hit enter I cannot actually send the message.  (I assume that SCIM is taking the enter, not GAIM)
[06:24] <turing> well before I sign off for the night, does anyone have any suggestions for h3h_timo and I about good CPU load monitering apps that'll show each CPU's load seperately?
[06:24] <nalioth> sasquatch: because Ubuntu runs many language channels to help folks for one
[06:24] <Grisen1> Warbo: the floppy is mounted.  Contents are "boot" (in blue letters)
[06:24] <h3h_timo> turing, lol ur the man, no body ever answers us tho
[06:24] <h3h_timo> we are alone in our search
[06:24] <duncanm> oh
[06:25] <duncanm> liquidten2: i had that thing before......
[06:25] <sasquatch> nalioth: ah... but i didn't know we discouraged biligualism... meh, just curious
[06:25] <duncanm> i forgot how i fixed it
[06:25] <duncanm> liquidten2: it might be an SCIM config thing
[06:25] <tritium> turing: I am not aware of a solution to your question.  I did look into it, but did not find anything.
[06:25] <alleyoopster> turing: have you tried sensors
[06:25] <duncanm> liquidten2: you might have the 'decide' key set to enter
[06:25] <nalioth> sasquatch: if you wish to join #ubuntu-jp, i'm sure they'll be happy to be bilingual
[06:25] <Warbo> Grisen1: Try "ls /grubfloppy/boot" and see if grub is in there, then "ls /grubfloppy/boot/grub" and see if all of the "stage" files are in there
[06:25] <tritium> sasquatch: there are language-specific channels
[06:25] <duncanm> i'm really pissed off about this CIFS thing
[06:25] <sasquatch> tritium: but would i get kicked out of ubuntu-jp for speaking english?
[06:25] <duncanm> why is it so determined to match UIDs for me
[06:26] <duncanm> i thought that was the reason why people used SMB over NFS
[06:26] <tritium> sasquatch: possibly
[06:26] <rixth_> Thanks, tritium.
[06:26] <liquidten2> duncanm: Because It Knows What's Best(tm)
[06:26] <sasquatch> tritium: mm, therein lies the conundrum
[06:26] <tritium> rixth_: not too cool, eh?
[06:26] <Grisen1> Warbo:  Yes, it all appears to be there...
[06:26] <rixth_> tritium: can we go somewhere and discuss this for a moment?
[06:26] <h3h_timo> turing, u still in here??
[06:27] <turing> alleyoopster, sensors sounds promising....Add/Remove apps shows X Sensors and gDesklets..should I try synaptec?
[06:27] <alleyoopster> turing: it is in repos under lm-sensors and you can use x or gdesklets to view the sensors for CPU fans etc
[06:27] <ajt> Does anyone know where I can find information on how to setup a Netgear WG311T using the commandline?
[06:27] <h3h_timo> rixth, got any good apps to listen to internet radio streams??
[06:27] <liquidten2> h3h_timo: he left a while ago.
[06:27] <tritium> rixth_: yes
[06:27] <Warbo> Grisen1: Then "sudo umount /grubfloppy" should make sure they are written to disc and grub-instal lSHOULD work
[06:27] <rixth_> h3h_timo: rhythmbox does a good job of that.
[06:27] <bimberi> turing: GUI - gnome-system-monitor,  CLI - press the 1 key while running top
[06:27] <stefg> !wifi
[06:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:27] <ajt> you're awesome
[06:27] <shawnr_> besides looking in xorg.config, is there a terminal command to tell me what graphics driver x is currently using?
[06:27] <h3h_timo> rixth, its not showing any stations... and liquidten2 im not that dumb
[06:28] <ajt> stefg: how about via the command line?
[06:28] <ajt> stefg: I don't have xwindows installed. It's a server
[06:28] <turing> bimberi, can you get gnome-system-monitor to show which CPU individual processes are running on?
[06:28] <alleyoopster> turing: they need setting up. Follow this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=lm-sensors
[06:29] <tritium> rixth_: are you going to join?
[06:29] <liquidten2> h3h_timo: Heh... you're right, I got his name confused with some one else's >_<
[06:29] <ajt> !wifi commandline
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about wifi commandline - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:29] <turing> alleyoopster, thanks!
[06:29] <stefg> ajt: sorry, i don't run wireless... just made the bot spit out the link to let you see it..
[06:29] <h3h_timo> liquidten2, lol thats funny
[06:29] <rixth_> tritium: U am there
[06:29] <ajt> stefg: np thanks
[06:29] <liquidten2> ajt:  the "iwconfig" and "ifconfig" commandxz will work
[06:30] <Warbo> liquidten2: Any idea what "iwlist" does?
[06:30] <bimberi> turing: idk sorry :|
[06:30] <bobovski> help! my flash player won't play sound (again) it did work, but now nothing.
[06:30] <liquidten2> ajt:  I have no idea, every time I try to use it it simply says that my card doesn't support it.
[06:30] <Grisen1> Warbo, Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.  BUT can I try this diskette from a cold shutdown?  What should it do?
[06:30] <ajt> liquidten2: I figured that much just can't figure out how to use iwconfig to setup a WPA-SK connection
[06:30] <ajt> I think I might of foudn something tho
[06:30] <sasquatch> Warbo: just gives detailed info
[06:30] <turing> h3h_timo did you catch all that?
[06:30] <sasquatch> type man iwlist for more info
[06:31] <Warbo> Grisen1: You can always try it, but it may not work
[06:31] <Warbo> I had to move iwlist out of $PATH since it took up 90%+ CPU and hardly anything would run (including sudo and GNOME)
[06:31] <Grisen1> Then I've lost nothing.  Except to try something else-- like GRUB on a
[06:31] <Samus_Aran> Apache2 has /etc/apache2/mods-available/* as symlinks in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/* .. is there some tool to set these up automatically, or why was this format chosen ?
[06:32] <Warbo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB <- includes GRUB on a CD at the end
[06:32] <h3h_timo> turing
[06:33] <h3h_timo> turing, um no, it flew by me, and i just said your name i think
[06:33] <phuzz> gnome: "the greeter application apears to be crashing attempting to use a diffrent one" any ideas?
[06:34] <h3h_timo> turing, what you are gonna use to do it?? gdesklets? or something else?
[06:35] <DanaG> aargh, my /lib/udev/usb_id won't return anything.
[06:35] <df00zz> Hey.  If I install the linux-386 packages and linux-image etc
[06:35] <df00zz> is it going to overwrite my current custom stuff, or will it just add another entry to the grub boot config?
[06:36] <df00zz> .i suppose i could just do it and watch what happens
[06:36] <liquidten2> It won't overrwrite your current custom config.  Or at least ideally that is.
[06:36] <h3h_timo> turing, u still there ??
[06:37] <liquidten2> df00zz: as long as your kernel in /boot is named as something unique it should be fine
[06:37] <df00zz> ah, ok
[06:37] <df00zz> it is
[06:37] <df00zz> thanks
[06:37] <baconbacon> it depends on some lines
[06:38] <baconbacon> what is after  ## End Default Options ## but before END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST could be overwritten
[06:38] <liquidten2> df00zz: you MIGHT want to backup your grub config file first though, just in case.
[06:38] <anonymeeee> how do I add my username to the admin group  in  the sudoers file ?
[06:39] <h3h_timo> !sensors
[06:39] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[06:39] <bruenig> how do you launch a program in a windows command prompt?
[06:39] <baconbacon> anonymeeee: you just add yourself to the admin group
[06:40] <Gumby> anonobomber: edit /etc/group and add your user to the admin group
[06:40] <Gumby> errr, anonymeeee
[06:40] <nalioth> anonymeeee: open a console and type "man visudo"
[06:40] <bthornton> my "gnome-panel"s have once again crashed; what's the signal to "restart" a process?
[06:40] <baconbacon> shouldn't he use usermod
[06:40] <Gixbit> Why won't startx or xinit or any GUI interface initializer command work for me?
[06:41] <bthornton> and, while I'm here, is anybody else having problems with their panels?  mine always crash.
[06:41] <Gixbit> Is there some special thing I have to do?
[06:41] <Warbo> AA! Not only does mldonkey-server break when it installs, but it breaks when it is removed!
[06:41] <bobovski> hi all, can someone help me get flash player's sound working again? Everything was fine but now does not work. There was an upgrade to firefox...would that have caused it/
[06:41] <Warbo> "Starting MLDonkey: mlnetinstall: invalid option -- f"
[06:41] <secleinteer> could some1 point me to the location of the ubuntu icon in the top left of the screen?
[06:42] <liquidten2> bobovski: If ESD is running, turn it off, if it is off, turn it on.
[06:42] <Warbo>  /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png I think
[06:42] <secleinteer> ok thx
[06:42] <liquidten2> bobovski: ESD would be the Sound System option somewhere in the preferences menu.
[06:42] <h3h_timo> Warbo, do you know how to change that?