[06:13] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Kernel should be the last thing you should ever be touching unless it's to do with hardware and what not.
[06:14] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> I'm using 1GB of ram here.
[06:14] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> And yes my puter is very old.
[06:14] <koa> there is 1 down side with my ubuntu :/
[06:14] <koa> evern thro i have nice spec
[06:14] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> koa: o_O what would that be?
[06:14] <koa> is the boot time i tryed everything
[06:15] <koa> is still 45 sec to log screen
[06:15] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Is that bad?
[06:15] <koa> the rest run perfectly
[06:15] <learner420> hi
[06:15] <koa> not rlly just wanna show up with my boot time XD
[06:15] <learner420> am i visible?
[06:15] <koa> hello yes you are
[06:15] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Understood..
[06:15] <learner420> thanks koa :)
[06:15] <koa> hey guys good new :D for gamers
[06:16] <koa> i run company of heros  on full perfectly
[06:16] <koa> you welcome
[06:16] <koa> thanx for the help guys )
[06:16] <koa> cya . ^^
[06:18] <ryoohki> is there a channel for "ubuntu software center"?
[06:19] <learner420> i love the font ubuntu ...
[06:19] <rww> ryoohki: no, just ask for help with it in here
[06:19] <learner420> i mean font in ubuntu
[06:21] <SadlyMistaken> If i create with OpenOffice a pdf which docummet use UBUNTU FONT, someone in another computer, for example someone with normal windows.. will be reading my pdf with another font? I mean... Does OpenOffice embebed the font?
[06:22] <SadlyMistaken> hello?
[06:23] <learner420> what i have to type after pressing alt + f2 to open console
[06:23] <learner420> :(
[06:24] <learner420> i used to remember it , but i forgot
[06:25] <SadlyMistaken> when
[06:25] <SadlyMistaken> learner420
[06:25] <SadlyMistaken> when you press ALT + F2
[06:26] <learner420> on the desktop
[06:26] <SadlyMistaken> a new windows will pop up
[06:26] <SadlyMistaken> then write: gnome-terminal
[06:26] <learner420> oh yes yes ..
[06:26] <learner420> thanks sadly mistaken ...
[06:26] <SadlyMistaken> did you work?
[06:26] <SadlyMistaken> ok
[06:26] <SadlyMistaken> :D
[06:27] <learner420> yes it worked :)
[06:27] <SadlyMistaken> I think you can configurate keyboards to open directly a terminal
[06:27] <propman> ctrl alt T
[06:28] <SadlyMistaken> thanks a lot propman
[06:28] <urlin2u> has to be enabled in Natty compiz though
[06:28] <SadlyMistaken> I didn't know that
[06:28] <SadlyMistaken> (i use maverick)
[06:29] <propman> yw
[06:29] <SadlyMistaken> can someone answered me about the "embebed" font in openoffice when i export to pdf?
[06:29] <SadlyMistaken> (sorry for my bad english)
[06:31] <pander> iuuiku7r
[06:31] <SadlyMistaken> hello pander
[06:33] <joel135> hello #ubuntu! how do I configure my desktop to translate "example" to "google.com" when using ping, firefox etc?
[06:33] <urlin2u> SadlyMistaken, I see with a quick web search that there can be problems, you might test this your self, there are shared font.
[06:34] <joel135> so that ping example would give me the ip <IP_ADDRESS>, for example
[06:35] <SadlyMistaken> urlin2u i don't find any explanations when i did a web search of the problem. Thanks a lot anyway
[06:36] <Loshki> joel135: you can add entries to /etc/hosts (which maps names into ip addresses)...
[06:36] <Petskull> Hey guys, I want to download some packages after my roomie steps out in about 3 hours.  How do I do that?  Do I have to set up a cron job or something?
[06:37] <joel135> Loshki: thanks! I'll look into it
[06:37] <Petskull> basically I want to run 'sudo apt-get install xchat' at a certain time
[06:38] <Flannel> Petskull: for one-time things like this, you can use 'at'
[06:38] <Flannel> Its sort of like cron, but only does it once
[06:38] <Petskull> hmm
[06:38] <Petskull> at what?
[06:39] <Petskull> at <time>?
[06:40] <taty> how to install adobe flash player from LX terminal_
[06:40] <TrD> hi all
[06:40] <TrD> ho to set up static ARP entry please ?
[06:41] <TrD> *how
[06:41] <urlin2u> SadlyMistaken, ttf-mscorefonts-installer is I believe installed if you install the restricted-extras these are the Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts
[06:41] <urlin2u> this
[06:42] <deepak_> hi
[06:42] <SadlyMistaken> I have installed restricted-extras....
[06:42] <SadlyMistaken> But i only want to be sure the pdf is going to embebed the font inside.
[06:42] <Flannel> Petskull: sudo at now+3hour, then type your command, enter, ctrl-d.
[06:42] <SadlyMistaken> ok, don't worry urlin2u, thanks a lot for everything
[06:43] <deepak_> hi
[06:43] <ninwa_mbl> Hi
[06:43] <Petskull> ok, I just tried "ls|at 11:12" and I got "warning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh; job 1 at Sat Sep 24 11:12:00 2011"
[06:43] <Petskull> but nothing happened at 11:12
[06:43] <deepak_> ninwa where you from ?
[06:44] <Flannel> Petskull: it won't run it in your shell, it'll just run it.
[06:44] <Petskull> ah, duh
[06:44] <Petskull> shoulda seen that coming
[06:44] <Flannel> Petskull: after you add something, you can see it with 'atq'  (or sudo atq if you've added it to root's queue)
[06:44] <Myrtti> Petskull: try 'touch foobar' or something
[06:44] <Petskull> ok, trying again
[06:45] <Petskull> I was gonna try gedit
[06:45] <joel135> what does ::1 in /etc/hosts mean?
[06:45] <deepak_> :( am i visible or not , and by which name ? huh isnt there anyway to find out myself , if i am connected or not
[06:45] <Flannel> Petskull: gedit won't work.  It's not connected to 'you' at all.
[06:45] <Myrtti> deepak_: hi
[06:46] <domino14> i want to give my computer a static ip; what do i use for the gateway and DNS?
[06:46] <domino14> i was just using my router ip, but this doesnt seem to work
[06:46] <deepak_> oh thanks Myrtti , u just lessen my frustration
[06:46] <deepak_> huh
[06:46] <Myrtti> np
[06:46] <Tom_> I thought xchat was a program comparable to mIRC
[06:46] <Flannel> joel135: that's IPv6s version of <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:46] <domino14> oh nevermind, it works now...
[06:46] <Flannel> joel135: (loopback address)
[06:46] <joel135> ty
[06:46] <Petskull> um.. Flannel what do you mean?
[06:47] <Tom_> I thought xchat was a program comparable to mIRC
[06:47] <Myrtti> Tom_: yes?
[06:47] <Flannel> Petskull: You can't do anything that interacts with the user.  Because it doesn't know which xserver to connect to, or which tty, etc, etc.
[06:47] <Petskull> hmmm
[06:47] <deepak_> what is tty and etc ?
[06:48] <Petskull> ls>file.txt?
[06:48] <Tom_> should I just find a way to download issri?
[06:48] <Tom_> wine fails with my mirc for some reason
[06:48] <Flannel> Petskull: that'll work.  Although I'd give both commands an absolute path.
[06:48] <Petskull> ls>/home/mynick/file.txt?
[06:48] <Petskull> rgr
[06:50] <deepak_> my some button is not working in my keyboard , is there any software through which i can change the keybaord config?
[06:51] <Petskull> when I run it, it executes immediately
[06:52] <Petskull> as opposed to waiting until the time
[06:52] <Flannel> Petskull: What exactly are you doing?
[06:52] <hellofoo> when i execute ls -alh the folders displayed are just 4.0K big when they contain files that add up to several MBs, why so ?
[06:53] <henningvis_> Some of my apps are not working after i added the ipod ext to banshee. Software Centre said that x amount of files would be deleted and now openshot, jacamorph, frets on fire etc does not even want to open ...newby here ..SIGH
[06:54] <Petskull> Flannel, I have this long line of packages I want to install on my new ubuntu machine.  I've used this line of apt a lot before
[06:54] <Petskull> but the internet's slow here, and I have a roomate
[06:54] <Petskull> so I want to set it to start after he leaves
[06:55] <Petskull> Flannel, does this make sense?
[06:56] <Flannel> Petskull: No, no, what are you doing with at?
[06:57] <Petskull> I'm trying to use 'at' to run this 'sudo apt' line at a certain time
[06:57] <Petskull> ...like you suggested
[06:58] <Flannel> Petskull: What exactly are you doing (with your test case) to enter the line into at?
[06:58] <soreau> Petskull: Why not just use a quick-n-dirty method such as logging in as root, then running sleep 65000; apt-get install blah blah blah
[06:58] <Petskull> ls>/home/petskull/file.txt|at 11:22
[06:58] <MeanEYE> Haha, just read that guys comment on Xchat :)... had to laught.
[06:58] <Petskull> that could work
[06:58] <Petskull> lemme try
[06:59] <Petskull> that 65000 is millisecs, right?
[06:59] <soreau> Petskull: sleep --help
[06:59] <soreau> might be useful here
[06:59] <Petskull> gotcha- should just man sleep before asking
[07:00] <tsaknorris> hmm i know something about aliases, but i dont understand why him in this example put them to this own folder. because they have to be always under .bashrc to work right?
[07:00] <tsaknorris> http://www.howtogeek.com/73768/how-to-use-aliases-to-customize-ubuntu-commands/
[07:00] <Flannel> Petskull: That command works fine here to adding it to the at queue.
[07:00] <soreau> Petskull: You'll also want apt-get --force-yes -y install blah blah blah
[07:00] <dollarcrab> is it possible to tell my laptop "yes you are plugged in" so that it will let me charge the battery?
[07:00] <Flannel> soreau, Petskull: you never want --force-yes
[07:00] <soreau> Flannel: Sure you do ;)
[07:01] <Flannel> soreau: No, you don't.
[07:01] <Petskull> yeah, I read up in the apt forcing
[07:01] <Petskull> no?
[07:01] <Flannel> Petskull: No.
[07:01] <soreau> Flannel: If you *never* want that option, it would have been removed from apt-get's code
[07:01] <Petskull> why not?
[07:01] <Flannel> Petskull: Unless you feel like coming home to a broken system tomorrow.
[07:01] <Petskull> um... no
[07:01] <soreau> Flannel: How could it possibly break something?
[07:01] <Petskull> that would be bad
[07:01] <Flannel> Petskull: If you have to force it to yes, it's asking if you really want to do something you shouldn't.
[07:02] <tsaknorris> soreau: it install new kernerl etc...
[07:02] <Flannel> soreau: How would --force-yes be useful?
[07:02] <tsaknorris> soreau: kernel :D
[07:02] <Petskull> no- I just need to bypass the confirmation as I won't be here
[07:02] <amin`> how could I start dzen with icon set?
[07:02] <soreau> Flannel: -y alone does not work.. it will fail with 'you didnt say --force-yes'
[07:02] <Petskull> how would I do that?
[07:02] <Flannel> Petskull: that's what -y does
[07:02] <Petskull> it's gonna ask me..
[07:02] <Mokilok> How do I change the Icon of a link?
[07:02] <Loshki> Petskull: instead of forcing yes, how about using -d instead to do the download unattended, then do the actual install when you're there later....
[07:02] <Petskull> ok, gonna try it with just -y
[07:03] <Petskull> hey- that's not a bad idea
[07:03] <Flannel> soreau, Petskull: from the man page (regarding -y): Automatic yes to prompts; assume "yes" as answer to all prompts and run non-interactively. If an undesirable situation, such as changing a held package, trying to install a unauthenticated package or removing an essential package occurs then apt-get will abort.
[07:03] <Petskull> except the install is pretty lengthy on its own
[07:03] <MeanEYE> Mokilok: Well icons are mainly detected by extension and in some cases by content. So rename it. :D
[07:03] <Flannel> So, there's your few examples of things that --force-yes will do, which will not make you a happy camper.
[07:03] <Petskull> yeah, that makes senc
[07:03] <Petskull> e
[07:04] <MeanEYE> Mokilok: unless the link is a directory in which case there isn't really anything you can change :D
[07:04] <tsaknorris> so  now i need the answer why to put aliases own folder and not to .bashrc where they will work if you restart the shell etc...
[07:04] <soreau> Flannel: Well ISTR -y failing with '-y given without --force-yes. aborting' but that no longer seems to be the case
[07:04] <jtrucks> oh god.
[07:04] <jtrucks> so.
[07:04] <soreau> Flannel: It's been awhile since I used it
[07:04] <tsaknorris> is there secret stuff what i dont know or is he just pointing to that folder under .bashrc?
[07:04]  * soreau sits corrected
[07:05] <MeanEYE> tsaknorris: There is no difference in that. It's only a matter of organisation. They'll work either way.
[07:05] <Mokilok> The link is for Heroes of Newerth x64 executable. The game opens fine but the link is a plain gray Ubuntu Icon. When I select the Emblems tab in properties the default HoN icons are not one of the selectable options
[07:05] <MeanEYE> Mokilok: Then you want to create a .desktop file and define icon there.
[07:06] <jtrucks> what do I do with my system when this happens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/696032/
[07:07] <tsaknorris> MeanEYE: hmmm not automaticly. .bashrc is only place atleast in my system? because i opened new shell and it doesnt work there.
[07:07] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: Seems to me that your /etc/apt/sources.list file is corrupt or has a bad format. Check that first.
[07:07] <jtrucks> sources.list: symbolic link to usr/share/man/man1/mactime-sleuthkit.1.gz'
[07:07] <jtrucks> seems like a problem there, eh
[07:07] <jtrucks> ?
[07:07] <jtrucks> so how do I fix that and have the upgrade pick up where it left off?
[07:07] <jtrucks> is that possible?
[07:08] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: sources.list should be a plaintext file.
[07:08] <MeanEYE> tsaknorris: Can you give me that link again. I just dropped in without actually looking what that guy said.
[07:08] <tsaknorris> http://www.howtogeek.com/73768/how-to-use-aliases-to-customize-ubuntu-commands/
[07:09] <Petskull> ok, my line is this:   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc mplayer mencoder build-essential xchat frozen-bubble banshee libxine1-ffmpeg xchat-gnome wine openarena stellarium celestia blender bootchart sysv-rc-conf compizconfig-settings-manager emerald barrage hedgewars chromium pacman pingus warzone2100 snes9x-gtk transmission code-blocks geany libsdl1.2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev ubuntu-tweak
[07:10] <MeanEYE> tsaknorris: Ok, now repeat the question if you don't mind. :) Just to make sure I don't give you an stupid answer.
[07:10] <tsaknorris> MeanEYE: wait. i dont have same name folder i have just .aliases. does it really have to be same name .bash_aliases?
[07:11] <Petskull> hey- what's the name of the ubuntu-tweak package?
[07:11] <Petskull> did it change?
[07:11] <jtrucks> MeanEYE: where can I find a correct copy of the sources.list file? I assume my original is no longer correct, which it copied to sources.list.distUpgrade.
[07:11] <urlin2u> Petskull, you have to add the ppa
[07:11] <rww> Petskull: ubuntu-tweak isn't in Ubuntu's repositories and isn't supported here.
[07:11] <Petskull> oh... I know what happened
[07:11] <Petskull> I added it, but I didn't update my cache
[07:12] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: Your upgrade failed?
[07:12] <jtrucks> MeanEYE: yes.
[07:12] <MeanEYE> tsaknorris: It's not a folder, it's a plain text file.
[07:13] <jtrucks> that paste was the output of the failure notice :(
[07:13] <tsaknorris> MeanEYE: yeah i ment that :D sorry my folder is just text file, but still can you get it to work?
[07:13] <Fargh> good morning
[07:13] <Loshki> Petskull: you forgot the -y ....
[07:13] <jtrucks> so first I need to get the correct file. then I have to figure out how to restart this process (hopefully where it left off)
[07:14] <Petskull> "Need to get 822 MB of archives."... Jeez, that's gonna take days..
[07:14] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: Then original should have .distUpgrade appended. Before renaming check if the original is ok. Do an update first before upgrading!
[07:14] <Fargh> anyone here wanna help me with fixing apt ?
[07:14] <MeanEYE> tsaknorris: Give me a moment please.
[07:14] <Petskull> Loshki, I know, I just wanted to make sure all the packages were good
[07:14]  * jtrucks got 409MB earlier in about 4 min.
[07:15] <tsaknorris> MeanEYE: ok, maybe easiest way is to make line to .bashrc what points to that own alias file. hmm but that it would work without .bashrc is weird :D
[07:15] <Fargh> when installing any package i get the following message : E: File does not exist: /usr/share/cli-common/packages.d/policy.2.6.gtk-dotnet.installcligac
[07:16] <Fargh> anyone has an idea ?
[07:16] <Corey> Fargh: Yeah, hang on...
[07:16] <Fargh> dpkg: error processing libgtk2.0-cil (--remove):
[07:16] <urlin2u> Fargh, can you run a update?
[07:16] <Fargh> update yes
[07:17] <MeanEYE> tsaknorris: tsaknorris: Ok. Inside of your .bashrc you have something that looks like `if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then`. That's the line that loads the .bash_aliases file. You can change it to whatever you want. I'd suggest reading http://stefaanlippens.net/my_bashrc_aliases_profile_and_other_stuff as it has some nice explanations and examples.
[07:17] <Fargh> apt-get -f install  <-- fails
[07:17] <Corey> Fargh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1666312
[07:17] <Petskull> 21hours... this is almost a moot point..
[07:17] <Fargh> doesnt work Corey ... tried that already
[07:18] <tsaknorris> MeanEYE: thanks :)  im just confused coz i made that .bash_aliases and it didnt still work :D lol wait i will check everything twice and thank you :)
[07:18] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: If the .distUpgrade file is Ok, meaning it's a plain text file with a bunch of lines starting with deb and deb-src... All you need to do is rename existing souces.list to something like sources.list.invalid and rename .distUpgrade file to original file name. Do apt-get update and upgrade. Then you can just restart distribution upgrade without problems.
[07:18] <MeanEYE> tsaknorris: Don't mention it. If you still have problems let me know.
[07:20] <jtrucks> MeanEYE: oh, cool. I'll try that.
[07:20] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: Just don't remove any files. Renaming them is enough. Just in case you need to revert something back.
[07:20] <Petskull> getting rid of openarena and warzone kicks it down to 'just' 411MB which should about halve the ETA
[07:21] <jtrucks> yeah, I copied them.
[07:21] <Petskull> ok, leaving this working- thanks, guys!
[07:21] <jtrucks> the problem turns out that sources.list was, inexplicably, a link to some man page gz file.
[07:21] <Loshki> MeanEYE: tsaknorris: my 10.04 .bashrc doesn't contain any such statement, and my bash man page doesn't say anything about .bash_aliases. What version are you guys running?
[07:22] <Corey> I have ubuntu in a weird half-configured state.  Hangs indefinitely when removing gdm.
[07:22] <Corey> How do I forcibly remove it?
[07:22] <Petskull> thanks guys!!
[07:22]  * Petskull *gone
[07:23] <MeanEYE> Loshki: am on Mint at the moment. It's really a distro specific thing. URL I gave describes how to set aliases in external file. So, in my .bashrc I have few alises and I don't have .bash_aliases file. :D
[07:23] <MeanEYE> Corey: Do you have a different DM? Like LightDM?
[07:24] <Corey> MeanEYE: It's headless, should have nothing. :-)
[07:24] <MeanEYE> Corey: Did you try aptitude?
[07:24] <Corey> MeanEYE: Yes.
[07:25] <Corey> Hangs forever on Removing gdm ...
[07:25] <jtrucks> MeanEYE: so I do: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; do-release-upgrade
[07:25] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: Yes. If I remember correctly do-release-upgrade is a python script so it directly depends on a state of python interpretter. Hence the reason for upgrade first.
[07:25] <rabbi1> can't i skype from pidign ?
[07:25] <rabbi1> * can't i skype from pidgin ?
[07:25] <jtrucks> so, will this have to do everything all over again?
[07:26] <MeanEYE> rabbi1: No, skype is a proprietary code. No OSS there.
[07:26] <Loshki> MeanEYE: but the web page claims to be for ubuntu, so it would be nice if it worked on the current ubuntu LTS, or if not, a note to that effect might be less confusing.
[07:26] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: Except for downloading already downloaded files. If you want that cleaned you have to apt-get clean
[07:26] <rabbi1> MeanEYE: thx, :(
[07:26] <MeanEYE> rabbi1: Google talk can be called using pidgin... with video/audio.
[07:27] <MeanEYE> rabbi1: And to be honest my advice would be to get rid of Skype. Spyware is not something we need in Linux community. :D
[07:27] <jtrucks> MeanEYE: so if all the packages are alrady installed, it will skip the install? This was at the very end of the upgrade process.
[07:27] <rabbi1> MeanEYE: yeah, i am using it... :)
[07:27] <hellofoo> OSS?
[07:27] <rabbi1> MeanEYE: can't help for few client communications
[07:27] <jtrucks> hellofoo: Open Source Software
[07:28] <MeanEYE> Loshki: Ubuntu can change from version to version so don't rely too much on it. If you don't see that file executing add that line (source file)
[07:28] <MeanEYE> rabbi1: I feel your paing although everyone has a GMail account today and Google+ being open you have a nice free conferencing software which is not closed and not forced down your throat.
[07:29] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: Hm, yeah. I think. With previous upgrade, did it download everything and crashed after that or it didn't even get the chance to download them ?
[07:30] <Loshki> MeanEYE: thanks, I'll take care of it...
[07:30] <rabbi1> MeanEYE: can's ask them to use  :) .
[07:30] <MeanEYE> Loshki: Basically if [ -f file ] means if file exists. The line `source ~/.bash_aliases` means include this file.
[07:31] <MeanEYE> rabbi1: I know. Sadly not all people are flexible.
[07:31] <jtrucks> MeanEYE: it downloded everything, went through the upgrade process through installation, then was doing the 'setting up' series of stuff, then it said it was searching for obsolete software, then it had the crash in the paste I first posted.
[07:31] <jtrucks> MeanEYE: so, should I s/hardy/lucid/ in sources.list and then do update && upgrade?
[07:31] <rabbi1> Every time i run this update manager, google-chrome-stable loads about 20 MB. what will be there to update so much in chrome every time ?
[07:31] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: Hm, weird. Then .distUpgrade file is not valid anymore. But am not exactly sure what happened.
[07:32] <jtrucks> k.
[07:32] <MeanEYE> rabbi1: In difference to microsoft Google patches a number of bugs and always introduces new features. Version 14 has NaCl in it and hardware acceleratorion.
[07:32] <shiven> stupid question time; i've managed to get wpa_supplicant set up, but i have no idea on how to make it automatically connect on ubuntu; any pointers? (10.4)
[07:32] <ikonia> shiven: there is a tick box in gnome-network-manager to say "connect automatically"
[07:32] <jtrucks> MeanEYE: so, I will s/hardy/lucid/ in sources.list, then apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; perhaps?
[07:33] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: You could try renming sources.list file and try upgrading again in hope everything will go through this time, but I never had upgrade crash at that point.
[07:33] <rabbi1> MeanEYE: yeah? but for 20 MB file for upgrade, every time ... sounds weired
[07:33] <ikonia> jtrucks: no
[07:33] <ikonia> jtrucks: that is %100 way to break your system
[07:33] <shiven> ikonia: sorry, i forgot to mention no gui
[07:33] <ikonia> !upgrade | jtrucks
[07:33] <jtrucks> okay.
[07:33] <ikonia> shiven: why are you not using a gui ?
[07:33] <jtrucks> ikonia: I was following that.
[07:33] <MeanEYE> rabbi1: In windows they are doing the diff download. In linux due to packaging rules they have to give full package every time. It's not that much of a download for benefit of security.
[07:33] <shiven> ikonia: development (server) system. Not interested in the waste of resources
[07:33] <jtrucks> it broke.
[07:33] <shiven> it just needs wifi, and ssh really
[07:34] <ikonia> shiven: then you have to set everything up in the interfaces file so that when the interface is brought up, all the settings are there, which will force it to connect
[07:34] <ikonia> jtrucks: define "it broke"
[07:34] <rabbi1> MeanEYE: or i can skip 1 or 2 upgrades in btwn
[07:34] <MeanEYE> rabbi1: You can but there's no reason to do so.
[07:34] <ikonia> rabbi1: if an update is offered, it's wise to take it
[07:35] <shiven> ikonia: any idea where the interfaces file is? i have no issue setting it up, its just everything is in different places on ubuntu
[07:35] <ikonia> shiven: what distro are you used to ?
[07:35] <jtrucks> ikonia: from earlier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/696032/
[07:35] <rabbi1> thanks
[07:35] <shiven> ikonia: gentoo / funtoo / sabyan
[07:35] <jtrucks> and sources.list: symbolic link to usr/share/man/man1/mactime-sleuthkit.1.gz'
[07:35] <MeanEYE> ikonia: jtrucks has problem with do-release-upgrade it broke before finishing last task od setting up all the packages. Perhaps reconfigure all could work.
[07:35] <ikonia> shiven: the file is in /etc/network
[07:35] <shiven> ikonia: thank you
[07:36] <MeanEYE> shiven: You can see interface name by issuing ifconfig -a :)
[07:36] <rabbi1> ikonia: my laptop prob din't solve,,, it's out for repair...
[07:36] <ikonia> jtrucks: obviously without knowing the details thats a serious error, however the last line that it can't read the sources file is interesting
[07:36] <ikonia> rabbi1: I told you 10 times it would not work and that it needed to go back for hardware repair
[07:36] <shiven> MeanEYE: i'm configuring my wifi; ifconfig is somewhat useless...
[07:36] <Fargh> anyone ideas for my issue ?
[07:37] <jtrucks> ikonia: somehow it managed to link the sources.list file to usr/share/man/man1/mactime-sleuthkit.1.gz
[07:37] <ikonia> jtrucks: what the devil.......
[07:37] <ikonia> jtrucks: I have never seen anything like that
[07:37] <ikonia> jtrucks: (what's mactime - pleaes don't say part of the macbuntu theme)
[07:37] <MeanEYE> shiven: I know, but it will give you interface name. Oh, sorry I didn't read your question correctly.
[07:38] <rabbi1> ikonia: :)
[07:38] <shiven> MeanEYE: tis all good, i'm nearly configured; quite a bit faster than my last 10 installs anyway
[07:39] <jtrucks> ikonia: so I need to figure out how to go on from here... however, it is possible that I need to backtrack some after attempting to fix this based on what we were trying to figure out above...
[07:39] <jtrucks> ikonia: mactime is part of sleuthkit. forensics package
[07:39] <jtrucks> this is a headless server.
[07:39] <tsaknorris> MeanEYE: lol i didnt know about that source command :D i was already thinking to make loop what goes with grep all the alias lines and make them alias commands  :) so much easier whiuh!
[07:39] <MeanEYE> tsaknorris: Please don't :D
[07:40] <ikonia> jtrucks: I think you're in for a tough ride
[07:41] <jtrucks> ikonia: I had a bad feeling that was the case.
[07:41] <jtrucks> it finished doing all the 'setting up' stuff, then this broke.
[07:41] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: ikonia: I still don't get how the heck man file ended up being linked to the source.list
[07:41] <jtrucks> MeanEYE: I have no idea either.
[07:42] <llutz_> corrupted filesystem, bad RAM
[07:42] <ikonia> jtrucks: out of interest, where is the sources.list pointing now ?
[07:43] <ryoohki> is there a channel for "ubuntu software center"?
[07:43] <jtrucks> ikonia: oh, I removed the symlink and copied sources.list.distUpgrade, then did s/hardy/lucid/ in the file.
[07:43] <jtrucks> based on someone's suggestion
[07:44] <rww> ryoohki: as I already told you, no.
[07:44] <dollarcrab> quit
[07:45] <henningvis> gonna try one more time: I have software that just wont work : Sonwriter and Javamorph...any suggestions to a solution/
[07:46] <hellofoo> hi, i am trying to understand something. why does ls show 4.0K for directories ?
[07:46] <shiven> thanks guys, all working
[07:46] <Ins3rt> more brazilian peoples?
[07:46] <henningvis> afrikaans
[07:46] <ikonia> Ins3rt: #ubuntu-br
[07:46] <Ins3rt> thxs ikonia
[07:46] <jtrucks> and now mysql is broken due to having a mix of hardy and lucid packages, I think.
[07:48] <llutz_> hellofoo: those 4k are the size the dir itself uccupies + some space reserved for information on contained files. once the number of files exceeds that reserved number, the dir-size increases with every file
[07:48] <MeanEYE> hellofoo: which flags did you use with `ls` command?
[07:49] <jtrucks> how can I tell apt to not try installing a package? it's complaining about trying to install an older package when a dependency is newer... I just want it to stop trying to do that.
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> !pin
[07:49] <ninjaaron> DISCONNECT
[07:49] <ikonia> jtrucks: slightly side tracking, do you have any PPA's or 3rd party repos installed ?
[07:49] <hellofoo> MeanEYE: ls -alh
[07:50] <Markus__> #straight
[07:50] <hellofoo> llutz_: dir is itself a fle., yeh ?
[07:50] <hellofoo> file
[07:50] <llutz_> hellofoo: yes, special kind of file. unix = all is a file :)
[07:50] <MeanEYE> hellofoo: Files and directories are inodes.
[07:50] <hellofoo> so it occupies like 4kb ? :O
[07:51] <MeanEYE> hellofoo: Something like that.
[07:51] <jtrucks> ikonia: looks like the only one in the file that doesn't use ubuntu.com is deb http://packages.dotdeb.org oldstable all
[07:51] <jtrucks> ikonia: should I remove that?
[07:51] <ikonia> jtrucks: %100 remove external stuff before upgrading
[07:52] <Markus__> check it out here #pornchat
[07:52] <ikonia> jtrucks: I'm wondering if that's causing the dependency issue,
[07:52] <jtrucks> i didn't even realize it was there.
[07:52] <ikonia> Markus__: please don't post that sort of thing
[07:52] <bazhang> Markus__, stop that
[07:52] <ikonia> Markus__: the topic is ubuntu support only, please keep to that.
[07:52] <MeanEYE> !ops
[07:52] <MeanEYE> Can we have some moderation please?
[07:52] <ikonia> Markus__: he's been told
[07:52] <MeanEYE> ikonia: Ok.
[07:52] <ikonia> MeanEYE: he's been told, you can see us telling him, use common sense
[07:53] <MeanEYE> ikonia: Didn't know you are opperator. :)
[07:54] <ikonia> MeanEYE: people (anyone) can tell him to stop,
[07:54] <ryoohki> rww: didn't see it
[07:54] <ikonia> and he has
[07:54] <ryoohki> rww: thanks!
[07:54] <hellofoo> llutz_: thanks, yout explanation was really nice :#
[07:54] <hellofoo> :3
[07:54] <llutz_> hellofoo: a directory entry needs to store information about files being saved in it. so it reserves more space a common empty file does.
[07:54] <jtrucks> ikonia: oh, i think I know where that dependency problem came from. earlier it was suggested I replace the distUpgrade file after removing that weird symlink, then doing apt-get update; apt-get upgrade... which I believe started breaking mysql.
[07:54] <ikonia> jtrucks: that sort of makes sense, I can see how that could happen
[07:54] <ikonia> jtrucks: I'm curious to your repos as I'm tempted to try that update to see if it fails as yours did
[07:55] <jtrucks> I'll pastebin what I have in the file. old and new if you like.
[07:55] <ikonia> jtrucks: I wouldn't mind a look
[07:56] <jtrucks> old list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/696040/
[07:57] <jtrucks> new list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/696042/
[07:57] <ikonia> jtrucks: it's worth my trying an upgrade to see if that repo cause the crazy symlink
[07:58] <jtrucks> so what exact part of the process do I use?
[07:58] <jtrucks> and it looks like it might be that repo that caused my mysql issues.
[07:58] <ikonia> jtrucks: honestly, don't know due to how your system is
[07:59] <ikonia> jtrucks: my opion is, manually resolve each dep conflict as best you can, then re-try the upgrade
[07:59] <jtrucks> so perhaps I should remove all my mysql stuff that snuck in from that other repo.
[07:59] <jtrucks> okay.
[07:59] <ikonia> jtrucks: this may involve removing some packages and re-installing them from the sane repo
[07:59] <ikonia> jtrucks: keep in mind I'm flying blind on this, so it may not be solid advice
[07:59] <ikonia> but that's how I'd deal with it
[07:59] <jtrucks> oh, I know. :)
[08:00] <ikonia> any packages from the deb repo that conflict with packages from ubuntu, or supply newer/different versions, swap out with ubuntu packages
[08:00] <jtrucks> I much appreciate the help.
[08:00] <ikonia> jtrucks: I am very interested/worried about what caused that symlink issue though
[08:00] <jtrucks> so, what I don't know is what package command to use to force remove those as it's still trying to install these client packages so I can't do anything until I can get that part fixed.
[08:01] <ironhalik> Hmm could someone tell me
[08:01] <ironhalik> why theres no hdx drives in my /dev/ dir?
[08:02] <ikonia> ironhalik: libata now presents them as scsi
[08:02] <ikonia> ironhalik: look at /dev/sdx
[08:02] <ironhalik> oh
[08:02] <ironhalik> sec
[08:02] <jtrucks> ikonia: once I get this fixed, I can out in a report or otherwise supply anyone who is intersted with the logs from the failure
[08:02] <ironhalik> nope - /dev/shm or /dev/snd :/
[08:02] <ironhalik> only dirs on s
[08:03] <ikonia> ironhalik: can you please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[08:03] <ironhalik> im trying to locate my thumbdrive
[08:03] <ironhalik> kk sec
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: run:  sudo fdisk -l   to see partitions
[08:03] <ikonia> jtrucks: it would be interesting if you could spend a little time with me and see if we can re-create it
[08:04] <jtrucks> ikonia: Unforuntaely, I don't have that time.
[08:04] <ikonia> jtrucks: I don't mean at this moment, when it's fixed/running
[08:04] <jtrucks> oh, that's possible....
[08:04] <ironhalik> http://pastebin.com/PG2GJzL3
[08:04] <ironhalik> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/PG2GJzL3
[08:04] <ikonia> ironhalik: ls -la /dev/sda
[08:05] <ironhalik> root@Grouchy:~# ls -la /dev/sda
[08:05] <ironhalik> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 2011-09-23 14:35 /dev/sda
[08:05] <ironhalik> root@Grouchy:~# ls -la /dev/sda
[08:05] <ironhalik> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 2011-09-23 14:35 /dev/sda
[08:05] <ikonia> ironhalik: ok - so there you go, there are /dev/sdx devices
[08:06] <ikonia> ironhalik: you said there was not, yet there clearly is
[08:06] <ikonia> ironhalik: your usb device is /dev/sdb
[08:06] <ironhalik> yeah but its not visable there :>
[08:06] <ikonia> ironhalik: it has one partition which is /dev/sdb1
[08:06] <ironhalik> soz, sec, wrong paste
[08:06] <TheWrongTurn> Hello.  Does the 64 bit version of Ubuntu use more RAM than the 32bit ?
[08:06] <ikonia> ironhalik: it is visible, you've just shown me the device files
[08:06] <ikonia> TheWrongTurn: realistically, no
[08:06] <ironhalik> root@Grouchy:~# cd /dev/sdb1
[08:06] <ironhalik> -bash: cd: /dev/sdb1: Not a directory
[08:07] <rww> ironhalik: correct, it's not a directory.
[08:07] <ikonia> ironhalik: you can't do that, it's a device file, you need to mount it
[08:07] <ikonia> ironhalik: it should be auto mounted in /media
[08:07] <ironhalik> well, I want to use it with 'dd' tool
[08:07] <ironhalik> should it be visable with 'dir'? :>
[08:07] <ikonia> ironhalik: what are you trying to do - what's your end goal
[08:07] <TheWrongTurn> ikonia: So I could use the 64bit version with 2GBs of RAM only ? And then later toss 2 more GBs in and max out the RAM slots (and RAM) ?
[08:07] <ikonia> TheWrongTurn: sure.
[08:08] <TheWrongTurn> ikonia: rather than having to upgrade to the 64bit OS later?
[08:08] <ikonia> TheWrongTurn: you can't upgrade to 64bit from 32bit
[08:08] <ikonia> TheWrongTurn: install 64bit now, and add more ram later
[08:08] <TheWrongTurn> (when I install the RAM)
[08:08] <ironhalik> ikonia: oh, ls -al lists is, thats my bad - ill try to burn the img now - thanks for the help :>
[08:08] <MeanEYE> TheWrongTurn: What ikonia means is there's no upgrade process. Just a fresh install.
[08:10] <s0126h> is it true that if you forget root password in ubuntu, it makes no difference
[08:10] <ikonia> s0126h: there is no root password
[08:10] <llutz_> s0126h: you cannot forget something not exisiting
[08:10] <ikonia> s0126h: so you can't forget it
[08:10] <MeanEYE> s0126h: You shouldn't have root password in the first place.
[08:10] <s0126h> can you even set root password then?
[08:11] <MeanEYE> s0126h: Yes you can, but shouldn't
[08:11] <ikonia> s0126h: you can but it's unwise and un-needed
[08:11] <llutz_> s0126h: no need to do it
[08:11] <MeanEYE> s0126h: That's why `sudo` is there.
[08:11] <jtrucks> ikonia: so, I think it's file system corruption. I just found another file that is whacked out.
[08:11] <TheWrongTurn> damn thing disconnected
[08:11] <ikonia> jtrucks: if that's the case, what rotten timing
[08:11] <jtrucks> while trying to fix these messed up packages
[08:11] <s0126h> MeanEYE how do i set root password
[08:11] <jtrucks> exactly.
[08:12] <ikonia> s0126h: if you don't know, you shouldn't do it
[08:12] <ikonia> s0126h: why do you want to do that ?
[08:12] <llutz_> s0126h: tbh, if you have to ask that, you shouldnt do it at all
[08:12] <s0126h> because i don't like this "sudo nonsense"
[08:12] <MeanEYE> s0126h: I agree with ikonia. You really don't need root password. It will only hinder your security.
[08:12] <MeanEYE> s0126h: Even if you do set it, a lot of applications won't run if you are logged in as root so there's no sense in doing that.
[08:13] <IamTrying> I am getting this error when building from source. e.g: configure: error: no gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10 >= <IP_ADDRESS> (GStreamer Base Plugins) found  configure failed
[08:13] <s0126h> meaneye why would application not run
[08:13] <ikonia> s0126h: then use "sudo -i" and be root
[08:13] <jtrucks> does anyone recall off the top of their head how to delete/unlink a file by inode?
[08:13] <ikonia> MeanEYE: that's not true
[08:13] <s0126h> what is the difference between "su root"  and "sudo -i"
[08:13] <ikonia> jtrucks: ls -li to get then inode,
[08:13] <ikonia> s0126h: sudo -i sets the environment correctly
[08:13] <jtrucks> ikonia: yeah, I got that:)
[08:14] <MeanEYE> ikonia: Hm, yeah those that do run with sudo, will work either way. I though he wants to be logged in as root all the time.
[08:14] <jtrucks> oh, find might help me do this.
[08:14] <s0126h> sudo is confusing
[08:14] <llutz_> jtrucks: find ... -inum -exec rm...
[08:14] <ikonia> MeanEYE: that won't change applications from working/not working
[08:14] <ikonia> jtrucks: hang on, I'll get the rm option
[08:14] <ikonia> s0126h: in what respect
[08:14] <s0126h> why does sudo -i  work  when i don't even know root password
[08:15] <ikonia> s0126h: because you know your own sudo password
[08:15] <MeanEYE> ikonia: am pretty sure some of them didn't want to work :/ oh well... probably a minority
[08:15] <ikonia> s0126h: and your user is authorized
[08:15] <ikonia> MeanEYE: no, you are incorrect
[08:15] <jtrucks> hmm. find . -inum 9193214 -exec rm {} \; didn't work
[08:15] <s0126h> ikonia i don't like that system:  i like system where i have to know root password to get super priviledegt
[08:15] <jtrucks> here's the real problem: -????????? ? ? ? ?                ? GalleryRepositoryIndex.class
[08:15] <jtrucks> nice, eh?
[08:16] <llutz_> jtrucks: fsck
[08:16] <ikonia> s0126h: you don't like typing sudo -i, but you so like typing su - to be root
[08:16] <ikonia> s0126h: is that really what you're saying
[08:16] <jtrucks> llutz_: I was hoping to avoid that... as this is the root partition.
[08:16] <s0126h> ikonia  yes sort of ;  because to do  "su root" you have to know root password
[08:16] <ikonia> s0126h: what does it matter if you know the root password ?
[08:17] <s0126h> i just prefer that system
[08:17] <ikonia> s0126h: then use it, good luck.
[08:17] <llutz_> jtrucks: stupid not to do. you cannot know all the stuff being broken
[08:17] <Fargh> guys, whats the solution when you get No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already ?
[08:17] <s0126h> what is the difference between "su -"  and "su root"
[08:17] <MeanEYE> s0126h: In that case, sudo -i  and then passwd.
[08:17] <ikonia> s0126h: one sets the environment, the other sets the id
[08:17] <s0126h> ikonia i dont' get it
[08:17] <ikonia> MeanEYE: please stop talking if you can't follow the discussion
[08:18] <ikonia> s0126h: possibly why you should be using sudo then
[08:18] <s0126h> meaneye and whose password do i type after "sudo -i"
[08:18] <MeanEYE> ikonia: wasn't his question how to change root password? You are really in a bad mood today.
[08:18] <ikonia> s0126h: you know what you're doing - so either do it or don't
[08:18] <ikonia> MeanEYE: no. Please follow the conversation
[08:19] <llutz_> setting root-password isn't supported here and this should be EOD
[08:19] <ikonia> llutz_: yes, you're correct.
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> s0126h: very little but it will fail as no root pass is set, or should be set
[08:19] <s0126h> llutz  that's silly
[08:19] <bazhang> s0126h, lets move on
[08:19] <llutz_> s0126h: if you don't agree with ubuntu-style, don't use it
[08:19] <MeanEYE> ikonia: I did, but whatever. Not going to argue because of that.
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> s0126h: after: sudo -i   type you users password you log in with
[08:20] <s0126h> llutz  is "sudo -i" ubuntu style?  other distro does not use this style?
[08:20] <IamTrying> I am getting this error when building from source. e.g: configure: error: no gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10 >= <IP_ADDRESS> (GStreamer Base Plugins) found  configure failed
[08:20] <ryoohki> is there a procedure to fix ubuntu software center?  i already tried "apt-get purge software-center ; apt-get install software-center"
[08:20] <llutz_> !sudo | s0126h
[08:20] <jtrucks> my worry on this systems is this: if I take it to single user and fsck it, will it even boot since it never finished the upgrade process...
[08:20] <s0126h> ActionParsnip  i see;  i don't comprehend that system nor i want to use it
[08:20] <ikonia> jtrucks: it's worth (if you can) fo an fsck on the file system - but set -n so it doesn't auto fix, that way you can see the errors
[08:21] <ikonia> s0126h: don't use it then,
[08:21] <s0126h> ActionParsnip  because all you doing is retyping the password you logged in with
[08:21] <ikonia> s0126h: read the documentation ubottu has provided
[08:21] <jtrucks> ikonia: without rebooting to single user you mean? it might be wort the risk now...
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> s0126h: the default is to keep root locked down for security, when you need exta access, simply prepend the command with sudo and use your password to authenticate, this gives greater control of whom can use admin commands
[08:22] <ikonia> jtrucks: nah, don't do it on a mounted file system
[08:22] <ikonia> jtrucks: sorry, I see what you're saying that you don't want to boot at all
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> s0126h: it also stops users from running stuf like irc clients and web browsers as root, which is a really bad idea
[08:23] <jtrucks> I don't understand how linux kernels and userland stuff works well enough to know whether I'll remotely have a working system, however, it did update grub and I tink install the new kernel, too...
[08:23] <s0126h> actionparsnip why would that be better security;  the user is only re typing their own password to get root access
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> s0126h: there are plenty of good reasons why ubuntu is set as it is.
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> s0126h: the user must be in the 'admin' group to be able to use sudo
[08:23] <bazhang> s0126h, lets move on, you have repeated enough. check the links.
[08:23] <ikonia> jtrucks: it maybe worth booting from a livecd (if you have the guts) and try to resolve it from that point if it won't boot
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> s0126h: so users whom are not may attempt to use sudo but they will be denied access
[08:24] <ikonia> jtrucks: I'm sure (I think) we can get this booting again if you have a problem
[08:24] <qin> s0126h: Rootless linux is quite common, it is not only Ubuntu...
[08:24] <s0126h> qin not 5 years ago
[08:24] <s0126h> qin who started this trent
[08:24] <s0126h> trend
[08:24] <jtrucks> ikonia: this machine is 2600miles away from me.
[08:24] <qin> s0126h: Stay in '90 then.
[08:24] <ikonia> jtrucks: ok, so that's a real issue
[08:24] <bazhang> qin, hes gone
[08:25] <jtrucks> yes.
[08:25] <llutz_> jtrucks: no rescue system?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> s093294: think about the guys who maintain and code for ubuntu, and how much they know....
[08:25] <jtrucks> :(
[08:25] <jtrucks> I have console
[08:25] <ikonia> jtrucks: give me a minute or two to think
[08:25]  * jtrucks goes to verify
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> s093294: you are free to do as you wish, but it is advised to use sudo
[08:26] <qin> ActionParsnip: bazhang has finnished this topic 2 minutes ago
[08:26] <rgb247> is there anyone to help me to remap some keys in ubuntu?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> qin: gotcha
[08:27] <Amaranth1> Hello all. I am a new user to Ununtu, and need some help, anyone free?
[08:27] <MeanEYE> Amaranth1: Just ask the question and someone will pick it up.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Amaranth1: ask and see
[08:27] <jtrucks> so, this particular file is an issue right now because it is trying to uninstall gallery2 (I have no idea why exactly and don't care as it's not actively used on the system). if I can just stop it from trying to do that i can get the system to reboot with higher degree of confidence that it is at least bootable
[08:28] <rgb247> I want to play Dota on ubuntu, and on windows I had dotakeys which remapped my keys, for example(a=f, q=k, w=n, e=t, etc..)
[08:28] <rgb247> this app doesn't work anymore on ubuntu
[08:28] <ikonia> jtrucks: can you run fuser against that file
[08:28] <Fargh> thanks for all the support guys.
[08:29] <MeanEYE> rgb247: Are you running WC3 using wine?
[08:29] <Amaranth1>  I have installed Unbuntu on my laptop, have all the updates done. I installed Thunderbird, and the Enigmail plugin. I am trying to get the bloody thing to import my key, and everytime I try, I get the error "Error-Encryption Command Failed"
[08:30] <rgb247> MeanEYE: yes
[08:30] <llutz_> Amaranth1: gnupg is installed?
[08:30] <jtrucks> ikonia: yeah: Specified filename GalleryRepositoryIndex.class does not exist.
[08:30] <Amaranth1> Yes
[08:30] <shanky> Hello, is there an specific channel for ubuntu betas ?
[08:30] <llutz_> !+1
[08:30] <rww> shanky: #ubuntu+1
[08:30] <shanky> rww: thanks
[08:30] <ikonia> jtrucks: thats interesting, so it must be able to read it's info from a different inode
[08:31] <rgb247> MeanEYE: do you know any solution?
[08:32] <MeanEYE> rgb247: Check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9742275 thread out.
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> rgb247: did you check the appdb?
[08:33] <jtrucks> ahHA!
[08:33] <rgb247> ActionParsnip: I checked in synaptic but I don't found any app for key remapping
[08:33] <rgb247> MeanEYE: thanks you
[08:33] <MeanEYE> rgb247: NP
[08:33] <jtrucks> so, I moved the directory it was in (which the package manager was trying to remove anyway) and left it somewhere else to fix later, now I can get mysql installed.
[08:33] <jtrucks> so mail will work :P
[08:34] <jtrucks> then I can see if there's anything else left for the upgrade.
[08:34] <jtrucks> then risk a reboot.
[08:34] <jtrucks> meanwhile, I cannot for the life of me remember how to get to the console of the OS from HP iLO 100
[08:34] <ikonia> jtrucks: not a bad trick
[08:34] <linuxxxx> is padsp available in all versions of linux with pulse audio
[08:35] <linuxxxx> all versions of ubuntu* in particular
[08:35] <Amaranth1> Anyone have any experience with the plugin I am trying to use? Becuase no matter what I seem to do, I get errors
[08:35] <ikonia> jtrucks: not all ilo's support console, and some have to be licensed, some only allow LOM
[08:35] <iceroot> what is a process in "ps aux" containing [] like [/usr/bin/termin]
[08:36] <jtrucks> oh, so, I'm installing the mysql pacakges again... will it recognize that mysql-server used to be installed and ask me before it nails my existing setup? (I don't care about my.cnf, I didn't customize it - but auth tables etc I do)
[08:36] <ikonia> jtrucks: shouldn't touch the data
[08:37] <jtrucks> thought so.. but tonight I"m tired and paranoid :)
[08:37] <jtrucks> thanks.
[08:37] <llutz_> iceroot: means" no more options/parameter for this process known"
[08:39] <llutz_> iceroot: so only the processname is shown in []
[08:39] <iceroot> llutz_: so that means if i start "df" it would be shown as [/bin/df] and if i use "df -h" it would be shown as "/bin/df -f"
[08:40] <jtrucks> okay, mysql works now.
[08:40] <jtrucks> now I can get back to figuring out what's left of the upgrade and/or whether it's safe to reboot
[08:40] <ikonia> jtrucks: you're getting there,
[08:40] <llutz_> iceroot: no, afaik those processes mainly are kernel-/system-procs where the kernel has no info how it was called exactly. user-procs like "df" are known with path and all
[08:41] <iceroot> llutz_: ah ok, thank you
[08:41] <llutz_> iceroot: you'd better do some googling about it ;)
[08:41] <iceroot> llutz_: hard with "[]"
[08:41] <iceroot> llutz_: i guess "man ps" should be better
[08:41] <llutz_> square brackets    or how are they called in english?
[08:42] <iceroot> llutz_: that was to easy to think about :) thanks
[08:43] <iceroot> llutz_: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/ps-process-names-in-brackets-644364/
[08:44] <iceroot> [] = kernel-process
[08:45] <iceroot> but strange is that "terminator" (like gnome-terminal) has [] also but i am calling it myself
[08:45] <jtrucks> so, now using lucid repos in sources.list, I do apt-get upgrade and the only thing it says is that it held back xinetd and "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded."
[08:46] <jtrucks> so, any suggestions what I should check now?
[08:46] <ikonia> you can live with that
[08:46] <iceroot> jtrucks: dist-upgrade
[08:46] <jtrucks> iceroot: oh, thanks.
[08:46] <jtrucks> same result
[08:46] <ikonia> xinetd isn't a deal breaker
[08:46] <jtrucks> yeah, I can live without that. :P
[08:46] <tularis> hello
[08:46] <llutz_> iceroot: kernel or system-threads... but terminator... no idea why
[08:47] <iceroot> llutz_: also its shown as /usr/bin/termin instead of /usr/bin/terminator...   [/usr/bin/termin] <defunct>
[08:47] <tularis> i aquired a lenovo 121e one week ago, i installed ubuntu natty 64bit from usb and recently i had a big freeze
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> !away > yakeb-away
[08:48] <tularis> from that day i can't boot or finish an install
[08:48] <mobal> hello'
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> tularis: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?#
[08:48] <jtrucks> looks like it installed the kernel, too, and updated menu.lst
[08:49] <tularis> ActionParsnip: no but I installed it on 3 other computer at work, and those computer work fine for 4 weeks
[08:49] <jtrucks> so, what am I missing now?
[08:49] <ikonia> jtrucks: you look in an "ok" place
[08:49] <jtrucks> btw, you folks rock, especially you, ikonia
[08:49] <jtrucks> ikonia: well, I guess I ought to try a reboot, eh?
[08:49] <nyuszika7h> Hi
[08:49] <jtrucks> all the services seem to be working.
[08:49] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: Fingers crossed! :D
[08:49] <jtrucks> yeah
[08:49] <ikonia> jtrucks: going to have to jump soon.
[08:49] <tularis> I think problem come maybe from the x121e (amd processor)
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> tularis: I suggest you test the RAM too
[08:50] <jtrucks> so, here's the best part: I"m using that server right now to be here, so hopefully I'll be back with good news soon.
[08:50] <ikonia> jtrucks: did you eyeball the menu.lst/grub.conf to make sure it matches up to files that are there
[08:50] <ikonia> jtrucks: including the initrd etc.
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> tularis: there is an option on the USB, once booted, to MD5 test all the files on the USB
[08:50] <blink> hi. what's a good application to convert .avi videos to another formats? because i can't play .avi videos on my honeycomb.
[08:50] <tularis> ActionParsnip: how can I test the ram if i don't have spares
[08:50] <tularis> oh
[08:50] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i'm actually on a live session
[08:51] <tularis> ActionParsnip: what should I do ? (thx for helping)
[08:51] <jtrucks> ikonia: yes. :)
[08:51] <ikonia> jtrucks: time to test ?
[08:51] <jtrucks> vmlinuz and initrd are both correct.
[08:51] <jtrucks> sure.
[08:52] <jtrucks> :)
[08:52] <jtrucks> bbiab
[08:52] <FloodBot1> jtrucks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:52] <ikonia> jtrucks: I think it's as good as it's going to get
[08:52] <jtrucks> oops... didn't mean to type that many messages so quickly :P
[08:52] <jtrucks> brb
[08:54] <tularis> ActionParsnip: md5sum / ? ^^
[08:54] <Ninks> http://www.foreskin-restoration.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=61
[08:54] <Ninks> Check out this grief forum.
[08:54] <ikonia> Ninks: please don't post that
[08:55] <ikonia> Ninks: this channel is for ubuntu support only. Please keep to that
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | tularis
[08:55] <Ninks> ikonia: ok.
[08:55] <ikonia> Ninks: thank you
[08:55] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i don't have the iso anymore
[08:55] <Ninks> ikonia: lots of men over there grieving very seriously though
[08:55] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i'm actually on the live boot of the usb stick
[08:55] <ikonia> Ninks: not intersted - please stop discussion about it
[08:55] <tularis> oh
[08:56] <jtrucks> apparently it works ;)
[08:56] <MeanEYE> jtrucks: Yay!
[08:56] <tularis> ActionParsnip: processing ...
[08:56] <ikonia> jtrucks: pleased.
[08:57] <ninjaaron> I have some questions about packaging.
[08:57] <jtrucks> ikonia: thank you sooooooo much for all your time.
[08:57] <ikonia> jtrucks: you sorted yourself out, credit to you
[08:58] <ninjaaron> I created a font, and I'm distributing it via github at the moment, but someone has requested a launchpad ppa.
[08:58] <jtrucks> now to make sure mail is flowing both ways before staggering to bed :)
[08:58] <ninjaaron> I'm not really sure how to create a deb for a font.
[08:58] <ninjaaron> or for anything else, for that matter.
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> tularis: the USB can test it's own health
[08:59] <Asad2005> I had to replace motherboard, AGP and cpu, i have ubuntu 11.04 installed on hard disk. would it be possible to preserve installed system. dpkg-reconfigure failed ?
[08:59] <Pereee> Hello! I really need help with a 11.04 server installation. I have 4 discs that i want to turn into a RAID array and install the system on. Anyone RAID-MASTER? :)
[08:59] <Pereee> RAID10 array that is
[08:59] <blink> hi. what's a good application to convert .avi videos to another formats? because i can't play .avi videos on my honeycomb.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Asad2005: should be able to simply transfer the drive, remove proprietary drivers if you installed any
[08:59] <ikonia> Pereee: the server install has a raid tool
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> !raid | Pereee
[09:00] <Pereee> ActionParsnip: Yes indeed it does.. the installation works fine and i have checked the links posted. The problem in my case is maybe partitioning
[09:01] <Asad2005> ActionParsnip: IS there an alternative to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command
[09:01] <Pereee> installation works fine except when i boot it does not find GRUB
[09:01] <Someguy2> Guys does Ubuntu supprts dual Graphics card
[09:01] <Pereee> end up int grub error>
[09:01] <Trusardi> hm
[09:01] <Someguy2> casue when i have my gamimg machine, i wanna install ubuntu on it
[09:01] <ikonia> Pereee: you need to have /boot on a non-raid partition or a mirrored raid partition in this case
[09:01] <jtrucks> yup, everything working.
[09:01]  * jtrucks waves and goes to bed.
[09:01] <ikonia> jtrucks: nice job
[09:02] <Someguy2> Ubuntu is kinda faster than Windows
[09:02] <Someguy2> but it did hang on me one time
[09:02] <jtrucks> as it turns out, the telnet console is only good for power cycling or I can't figure it out either :P
[09:02] <jtrucks> time to set up tunnels to get to the console.
[09:02] <jtrucks> since it's not on public space.
[09:02] <Ironsight> someguy: you mean SLI/Crossfire?
[09:02] <Someguy2> k now i have a question
[09:02] <ikonia> jtrucks: lom settings only
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Asad2005: not had to use it, I'd imagine not though
[09:02] <jtrucks> NOW to bed.
[09:02] <jtrucks> ikonia: thanks.
[09:02] <Someguy2> yes
[09:02] <jtrucks> ikonia: yeah :(
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Someguy2: ask away
[09:03] <Someguy2> is ubuntu really good at gaming
[09:03] <ikonia> no
[09:03] <Ironsight> You will probably need to install propietary driver
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> Someguy2: depends which games
[09:04] <Pereee> yes i have read that.. but im not sure im doing it correctly. I have my four discs. On all four i create a /swap, / and a /home partition. All these i create raid arrays from (mdx). On the first drive i create a /boot partition that is only on the first drive and marked as bootable. Is that wrong?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> Someguy2: I've played many games on Ubuntu
[09:04] <ikonia> Someguy2: ubuntu has few native games, and running windows games on ubuntu is not a usable solution for every game
[09:04] <ikonia> Someguy2: if you have windows software...use windows,
[09:04] <Someguy2> Why?
[09:04] <ikonia> Someguy2: because they are designed for windows, ubuntu is a totally different operating system
[09:05] <Ironsight> To be honest I just boot win 7 for games
[09:05] <Someguy2> Well, WIne is useful
[09:05] <anabioz> да?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Someguy2: because games makers use a LOT of directx and windows guff (proprietary), so its difficult to make work
[09:05] <ikonia> Someguy2: not for everything
[09:05] <anabioz> что?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Someguy2: thats why not all apps work in wine
[09:05] <anabioz> как
[09:05] <ikonia> Someguy2: a game can work "ok" one work, and not work at all tomorrow depending on updates
[09:05] <ikonia> Someguy2: some stuff does not work at all and never will, so it's not a reliable solution.,
[09:05] <Someguy2> Well, there is a reason why WUBI exist
[09:06] <doxin> http://www.junauza.com/2011/04/lady-gaga-goes-gaga-over-ubuntu.html , how much of it is true?
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> Someguy2: there are some native games and some game developers, like ID software, make native Linux installers for their games
[09:06] <ikonia> Someguy2: wubi has nothing to do with wine
[09:06] <Someguy2> k problem solved
[09:06] <Pereee> ikonia: yes i have read that.. but im not sure im doing it correctly. I have my four discs. On all four i create a /swap, / and a /home partition. All these i create raid arrays from (mdx). On the first drive i create a /boot partition that is only on the first drive and marked as bootable. Is that wrong?
[09:06] <Someguy2> No I mean
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> Someguy2: wubi is different to wine
[09:06] <Someguy2> I know that
[09:06] <Someguy2> can i finosh my sentence?
[09:06] <Ironsight> Wine just barely works, and I don't dig the hassle of wine
[09:06] <Someguy2> *finish
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> Someguy2: why press ENTER if the sentence wasn't finished?
[09:07] <n4dsp> where can one go to get support for Evolution Mail?
[09:07] <Someguy2> Meh, Its a manarism
[09:07] <ikonia> Pereee: what you've descbribed sounds fine. however you need to make sure that your /boot partition is on the drive it's trying to boot from and that your system is looking at /boot on the drive rather than the raid array
[09:07] <Someguy2> anyways
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> Someguy2: then you will be misunderstood
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> n4dsp: here
[09:07] <n4dsp> good
[09:07] <Someguy2> Ubuntu is really good
[09:08] <Someguy2> almost never got a problem with it
[09:08] <n4dsp> whenever I click on a pdf or a jpg which is on my desktop and want to send it in an email as attachment and put the email address in the box , ,,,
[09:08] <Someguy2> n4dsp could be a bug or a human error
[09:08] <n4dsp> evolution mail opens but the email to that person with attachment doesnt open up.
[09:08] <n4dsp> bug i think
[09:09] <Ironsight> Sabayon to me is more geared to gaming since they install propietary drivers by default angd have a nice gaming edition
[09:09] <tularis> should i have a special version of natty for amd cpu ?
[09:09] <ikonia> tularis: no
[09:09] <Pereee> ikonia: ok. Sounds good then.. In the end of the installation i get a question to were i want to install grub.. if i want to install it in the MBR of the first drive or anywhere else. I have tried both but my guess is to /dev/sda1 (that should be my /boot partition)
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> tularis: no, any will run (except ppc)
[09:09] <ikonia> Pereee: no, masterboot record
[09:09] <Someguy2> BTW is Ubuntu Ultimate a ilgeal release?
[09:09] <Pereee> ikonia: well that does not work either..
[09:10] <Pereee> :(
[09:10] <Someguy2> I have a Ubuntu Ultimate CD
[09:10] <ikonia> Someguy2: no, it's re-spin that's not supported here as it's not official
[09:10] <tularis> k thx
[09:10] <Someguy2> Oh
[09:10] <Someguy2> thanks
[09:10] <Ironsight> illegal ??
[09:10] <ikonia> Pereee: you have a raid 10 array, is that software or hardware raid (I'm assuming linux software by your description)
[09:10] <ikonia> Ironsight: no
[09:11] <ninjaaron> p
[09:11] <Someguy2> What are the reasons Ubuntu hangs?
[09:11] <Someguy2> It did hang last summer
[09:11] <Pereee> ikonia: yes.. i create a software raid manually during installation
[09:11] <Someguy2> the window that are open is firefox
[09:11] <ikonia> Someguy2: you're using ubuntu ultimate eddition, ask their support
[09:11] <ikonia> Pereee: ok, and it's a raid 10 containing 4 disks ?
[09:11] <Someguy2> No
[09:11] <ikonia> no ?
[09:11] <Pereee> ikonia: yes
[09:11] <ikonia> no what.
[09:11] <Someguy2> Not Ultimate
[09:12] <Someguy2> Original
[09:12] <ikonia> Someguy2: , sorry, I thought you just said you had ultimate
[09:12] <csenger41> hey guys :)
[09:12] <csenger41> anyone online?
[09:12] <Someguy2> yeha but that was for my desktop
[09:12] <dpnux> Hi. I am trying to install astah .deb using Ubuntu Software center and it hang. My ubuntu is 10.10 64 bit. I tried to cancel it but no response. What can I do to cancel it?
[09:12] <Someguy2> my laptop has Ubuntu 11.04 offical
[09:12] <ikonia> Pereee: so, you also have 1 disk with /boot on
[09:12] <ikonia> Pereee: is that correct ?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Someguy2: Ultimate is offtopic here
[09:13] <Someguy2> ok
[09:13] <csenger41> i'd need some help with flash games freezes
[09:13] <Someguy2> But Ubuntu 11.04 Offcial
[09:14] <Pereee> ikonia: no.. i only have four discs im afraid.. And what im trying to do is to have the /boot partition on the first drive and not included in any raid array. Maybe thats not even possible?
[09:14] <csenger41> it happens when im moving my cursor and when i stop it, it keeps working again
[09:14] <Someguy2> Ubuntu 11.04 offcial did hang on me once and i want to know the reason why
[09:14] <ikonia> Pereee: that should be fine, so you have 4 disks, but 1 disk has 2 partitions on,
[09:15] <Pereee> ikonia: basically 4 partitions, /boot /(root) /swap and /home. All three except /boot is raid arrays that exist on all four drives
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Someguy2: Canonical releases are supported here (plus Lubuntu when Oneiric is out)
[09:15] <Pereee> ikonia: or should i only do a /boot and a / partition?
[09:15] <ikonia> Pereee: you have 1 disk that has 2 partitions on, 1 partition for /boot, the other partition is included in the raid array
[09:16] <tularis> ActionParsnip: md5 checksum is OK
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> tularis: sweet, ok so the USB boots. What happens next?
[09:18] <Pereee> ikonia: well.. im not sure.. Like this: I start up with 4 empty drives. On all those four i create /swap, /root, /home (and on the first drive a /boot) partition. With the raid "tool" i then create md0, md1 and md2 that is a /swap RAID, /root RAID and /home RAID
[09:18] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i got a full access to a live session, but on the other hand if i try to install
[09:18] <ikonia> Pereee: ok, I think you're a little confused on how it works, I'll try to explain, stop me if you get lost
[09:19] <Pereee> ikonia: thanks! I was afraid of that :)
[09:19] <tularis> at 2/3 of files copy, the install crash and send me to a frozen command black screen
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> tularis: is the drive healthy? You can fsck the partition from terminal
[09:19] <ikonia> Pereee: you need to create 1 partition on each of the 3 disks in the raid array, that are "full disks", mark the partitions as "raid", you need to create 1 primary partition on 1 disk for /boot and then a partition that is also raid, mark that partition as raid
[09:20] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i launched the drive check from the boot manager
[09:20] <ikonia> Pereee: you then make meta devices for each file system (apart from boot) out of the 4 raid partitioned disks
[09:20] <tularis> disk was healthy
[09:20] <z3ro3x> I tried to format a flash drive to fat32 and mistakenly clicked on a 500 GB hard drive with lots of data I'd like to get backigional file system was ext4.  Gparted shows it as fat32.  I tried to use testdisk to restore it and it told me to reboot after the changes.  But after the reboot gparted still shows it as fat32.  What's the deal? The or
[09:21] <Pereee> ikonia: ok, im with you.
[09:21] <z3ro3x> Ops.  I mean "Original file system was ext4"  Sorry, typo.
[09:21] <ikonia> Pereee: ok, or you can make one meta device, and partition it
[09:21] <tularis> i'll try the install another time
[09:21] <tularis> and i'll copy you the frozen command screen
[09:21] <ikonia> Pereee: eiter way will work fine, as long as you have 1 partition that is totally excluded from the raid setup.
[09:22] <ikonia> Pereee: does that help at all ?
[09:22] <Pereee> ikonia: Yes i think i get it.. What i think confuse me is what i should do with /swap and /root partitions?
[09:22] <n4dsp> guess its a tough question on the evolution mail problem
[09:23] <Pereee> ikonia: i don't need to care about that?
[09:23] <ikonia> Pereee: swap and root can be on the raid partition, no problems there
[09:23] <ikonia> Pereee: it's only /boot that needs to be %100 away from raid
[09:23] <Pereee> ikonia: ok, but i should create them after i have created the "raid"
[09:24] <ikonia> Pereee: it doesn't matter onthe order of creation, as long as the end result is /boot - seperate partition, everthing else = raid
[09:24] <ikonia> Pereee: it's useful to put /boot at the start of the first disk though
[09:24] <ikonia> Pereee: first partition on the first disk.
[09:25] <tularis> Panic occured
[09:25] <tularis> switched to text console
[09:25] <Pereee> ikonia: sorry if my questions are stupid.. Ok i will try but for me it sounds like i have done exactly that..
[09:25] <ikonia> Pereee: they are not stupid at all.
[09:25] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i got a blackscreen with a list of system call
[09:25] <Vahl> åäö
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> tularis: ok kick off the install without web access, keep it all local. Is it ok?
[09:26] <tularis> ActionParsnip: and the screen finish by panic Occured, switched to text console
[09:26] <tularis> ActionParsnip: i did
[09:26] <tularis> Without web access
[09:26] <tularis> same result
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> tularis: i see, have you tried the alternate ISO, it installs in text mode
[09:26] <The_BROS> anybody uses google docs in Ubuntu?
[09:26] <tularis> what is the alternate iso ActionParsnip
[09:26] <tularis> ?
[09:26] <tularis> oohh
[09:26] <tularis> yes i see
[09:26] <FloodBot1> tularis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:26] <Kartagis> I've got two 11.04 installations; one at home, one at work. the one at home can't play video files ie plays only the first frame then continues without video. this happens under totem. what to do? please don't tell me to use another player
[09:26] <tularis> let me try
[09:27] <ikonia> Kartagis: are the video cards different
[09:27] <tularis> Where can i check the version of my usb live ubuntu ?
[09:27] <tularis> I don't remember if it's a desktop or an alternate ><
[09:28] <Pereee> ikonia: im trying to install now so we will se how it goes.. But your recommendation is to write grub to MBR of the first drive?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> tularis: it install a desktop OS, just in text mode. There will be a text file or twon on the USB stick you can read, it will tell you the release
[09:28] <Kartagis> ikonia: could be, I'm not sure. can't check now because the one at work is off
[09:28] <ikonia> Pereee: correct, and make sure your bios is set to boot from that device
[09:28] <ikonia> Kartagis: worth checking,
[09:29] <Kartagis> ikonia: and if they are?
[09:29] <ikonia> Kartagis: well, that's where I'd start investigating
[09:29] <Kartagis> ikonia: what codecs can I install here?
[09:29] <ikonia> ? codecs......I said video card
[09:30] <tularis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/696080/
[09:30] <Kartagis> VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter <--- the one here ikonia
[09:30] <ikonia> Kartagis: is that the one thats working (I bet not)
[09:31] <tularis> ActionParsnip: before trying alternate, i should maybe try a more recent release, shouldn't I ?
[09:31] <Kartagis> ikonia: that's the one failing
[09:31] <tularis> oh
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> tularis: there is only Oneiric which is in beta, could try it. may just be silly enough to work
[09:31] <tularis> haha
[09:31] <ikonia> Kartagis: SIS video card, terrible, lots of problems. Not surprised it's failing
[09:31] <tularis> ok :P i try alternate
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: you'll more than likely need an xorg.conf for that chip, they do fine 2D display but no 3D under Linux
[09:34] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: where can I get such a xorg.conf? x.org?
[09:34] <Zimsky> How would I configure apache to serve as a proxy for a service running on port 3989?
[09:35] <Kartagis> Zimsky: #httpd
[09:36] <mobal> hello!
[09:36] <mobal> it is possible to get w or wo framebuffer high resolution in grub2? like full hd?
[09:38] <damno> how do I stop start up scripts that are executed by init?
[09:38] <Vahl> åäö
[09:39] <Pereee> ikonia: Now im trying to install.. i need to create a /swap, where do you recommend i put that
[09:39] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> damno: Control Center (Or something to do with system) -> Start Up Applications
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: you will find samples online using your GPU chip name in websearches
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> mobal: its a boot loader, why bother?
[09:43] <mobal> cause
[09:43] <mobal> ActionParsnip: very ugly :<
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> mobal: its on the screen for less than 2 seconds..
[09:44] <mobal> i know
[09:44] <mobal> ActionParsnip: i know, but if possible to get full hd res. than i want to try it
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> mobal: you can set the res in /etc/default/grub
[09:46] <IamTrying> #apt-get install libvisual0.4-dev ; No package found how can i install it?
[09:46] <mobal> ActionParsnip: i know, but Framebuffer 1920*1080 is unsupported by NVidia
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> mobal: sudo apt-get install hwinfo; sudo hwinfo --framebuffer
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> mobal: will show the available resolutions
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> mobal: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/   may help, I've used that to make plymouth load under proprietary drivers. Its really a worthless effort, but if you need to occupy yourself, why not
[09:48] <mobal> ActionParsnip: yes. 1920 is unavaliable. i know. but it is possible to get resolution without framebuffer? like with a driver or etc?
[09:51] <mobal> ActionParsnip: i think if 1920 is not supported, i cannot get that resolution :(
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> mobal: not if you use proprietary drivers, they don't load fast enough so you probably get no boot splash. That link is all I know of grub configs as its not of any value
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> mobal: maybe others can advise
[09:55] <doxin> http://www.junauza.com/2011/04/lady-gaga-goes-gaga-over-ubuntu.html , how much of it is true?
[09:56] <bazhang> doxin, its offtopic dont paste here
[09:56] <doxin> kay.
[09:58] <distant_voice> How do I use gconftool-2? I know the command I want to run, but when I do, I get another promt where I don't know what it wants of me
[09:59] <mokilok> Can someone please help me with a problem? I'm trying to mount a remote ntfs share using samba from bash but I don't know the command and i'm having trouble getting the one i've found to work.
[09:59] <hudeki> Would there be a problem with uninstalling evolution on 10.04?
[10:00] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> kudeki: No problem at all
[10:00] <mokilok> Is "sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/shared_folder/ /media/windows_share -o username=Guest,password=
[10:00] <mokilok> the correct syntax?
[10:01] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> kudeki: But if apt-get wants to remove your desktop, you'll need to install aptitude, and run 'aptitiude keep-all'
[10:01] <hudeki> and from synaptic?
[10:01] <hudeki> same storry?
[10:01] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> i think
[10:02] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I haven't used GUIs for installing in years, so IDK
[10:02] <bazhang> MAREK_BENC_NetB, that is not correct
[10:02] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> What?
[10:03] <bazhang> MAREK_BENC_NetB, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package no harm done in removing it
[10:03] <Arthur> Is there a way to make a partition in Xubuntu? I installed it on my comp and I want to also install Windows 7, but it forces me to delete the current partition because it has all the space focused on it, any idea :/ ?
[10:03] <distant_voice> running "gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/gomcmd/command /home/jan/start_gomplayer %s' --type String" doesn't work, it doesn't exit back to the prompt. Does anybody have experience with gconftool-2?
[10:04] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Yes, but if it's removed, apt will think all other packages are useless, and will prompt you to delete them with apt-get auto-clean
[10:04] <bazhang> MAREK_BENC_NetB, thats not correct
[10:04] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> s/auto-clean/auto-remove
[10:04] <distant_voice> Arthur, I think in general it's easier to install windows first and then install Ubuntu
[10:05] <Arthur> But I've already installed a lot of things in Linux, distant_voice, isn't there a way to make a new partition using some of the current space in my Linux so I can install there Windows :s ?
[10:06] <distant_voice> Arthur, there might be, but it's probably a pain in the ass compared to doing things the other way around. the problem is that windows will break GRUB in the process of uninstalling and if you don't know your way around fixing that it's be  a real hassle
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=197195&currentpage=10   has some sample commands you can steal
[10:06] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Arthur: It's an easy fix, actually.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: you could put start_gomplayer in /usr/bin instead of $HOME, it's a bit neater
[10:07] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Arthur: I can help you with this
[10:08] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Arthur: All that happens, is that windows overwrites the Boot sector, so it boots instead of GRUB, which is the Boot loader for Ubuntu
[10:09] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> As long as you have a LiveCD, you can simply fix it
[10:09] <Arthur> MAREK_BENC_NetB: Thanks, I once installed Linux when I had Windows 7 and it was easy because it gave me the option of installing it with Windows 7, but Windows 7 only displays me two partitions (since I've got nearly all the GBs focused in one) and it doesn't let me continue the installation, what should I do? I'd install Windows 7, but I have some important things like Skype which were hard to me to install when I started on Linux :/
[10:09] <Arthur> Some options I mean.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Arthur: skype is downloadable from the skype site easily
[10:11] <Arthur> ActionParsnip: I know, but I had some problems finding ways to make the microphone on cam works well.
[10:11] <Arthur> Well anyway, it's true, I should install Windows 7 and then use Xubuntu Live CD again, it'll hopefully let me install it with Windows 7
[10:11] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Arthut: So, what's your current status, you want to install Windows?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Arthur: yeah skype can be a pain to get nice
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Arthur: install Windows 7 to a percentage of the drive and you wont need to mess around with resizing partitions
[10:13] <almoxarife> ubuntu > virtualbox > win7 <-- problem solved
[10:13] <blinkyb> what's a good application to extract audio from mp4?
[10:14] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> blinkyb: FFmpeg works! But it's a text app
[10:14] <almoxarife> blinkyb: ffmpeg does have a gui,
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> blinkyb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1122611
[10:14] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> ffmpeg -i name.mp4 name.wav
[10:15] <blinkyb> almoxarife, it doesn't.
[10:15] <blinkyb> MAREK_BENC_NetB, what about file location?
[10:15] <dean> Hey all I was wondering if anyone in here is knowledgeable with devede?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> dean: ask and find out
[10:16] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Just 'cd' into the directory, where you have your .mp4 file
[10:16] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> And i think almoxarife ment WinFF.
[10:17] <dean> ActionParsnip, I am wondering if it is possible to convert 2 movies. I know how to convert 1 but trying to do 2 for my little boy lol
[10:17] <almoxarife> MAREK_BENC_NetB: no, I meant ffmpeg in ubuntu, I am trying to find it now,
[10:17] <blinkyb> MAREK_BENC_NetB, i copied the file to desktop, what's my path gonna be? i want the converted file on desktop as well. mp3 format
[10:17] <ajith> hai
[10:18] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> blinkyb: cd Desktop, in terminal, and then type 'ffmpeg -i name.mp4 name.wav'
[10:18] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I don't know how to convert it to mp3
[10:18] <almoxarife> MAREK_BENC_NetB: that's it, you right
[10:19] <blinkyb> MAREK_BENC_NetB, 'cd desktop' it says: bash: cd: desktop No such file or directory.
[10:19] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> With capital 'D'
[10:19] <dean> blinkyb, What are you trying to do convert mp4 to mp3?
[10:20] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> dean: yes, he is
[10:20] <dean> blinkyb, Is it a video file?
[10:20] <blinkyb> MAREK_BENC_NetB, now it's working
[10:21] <blinkyb> dean, a concert dvd which i want to extract audio from for my ipod
[10:21] <dean> blinkyb, Ah I see I was gonna suggest sound-converter if it was just audio lol
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> MAREK_BENC_NetB: the link I gave does it all for you.....
[10:22] <almoxarife> blinkyb: check out arista
[10:22] <blinkyb> MAREK_BENC_NetB, how do i know the progress? i mean how much time left
[10:23] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> blinkyb: What is it showing?
[10:23] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> !paste
[10:23] <piotr__> hello
[10:24] <piotr__> how are You ?
[10:24] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> ???
[10:24] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> !offtopic
[10:24] <piotr__> exit
[10:25] <dean> Hey does anyon know how to convert more than one file using devede?
[10:25] <Gentoo64> havent used that program in ages since it broke
[10:26] <soreau> dean: What do you mean?
[10:26] <dean> soreau, I am trying to convert 2 avi files to dvd using devede I know how to do it to make one dvd film
[10:26] <Gentoo64> dean, just add them both to the list
[10:26] <Gentoo64> then adjust disc usagge
[10:27] <soreau> dean: I know but do you mean to files in one dvd or two separate files to two separate dvd isos at once?
[10:27] <dean> Gentoo64, How do I make 2 seperate titles to click on so I can play either?
[10:27] <dean> In convertxtodvd you can put 2 films on one disc and you can choose which film to play
[10:27] <Gentoo64> dean, cant remember. theres title options in there
[10:27] <soreau> dean: You just make two separate titles and add a file to each IIRC
[10:28] <iCappy> Hi guys
[10:29] <dean> soreau, Will the title link to the correct avi file and also make one iso?
[10:29] <ikonia> oops
[10:29] <soreau> dean: Yes
[10:29] <soreau> ikonia: meant iCappy?
[10:29] <dean> soreau, Ok I will give it a go I have read tutorials but only shows you how to convert one file lol
[10:29] <soreau> thought he was a known troll..
[10:29] <ikonia> soreau: no, it was my fault/mistake
[10:30] <soreau> dean: Its pretty simple. You can only make one dvd at a time. Each title you add should have options for title text and video entries
[10:31] <blinkyb> MAREK_BENC_NetB, dean, almoxarife, sorry guys I had a phone call. so far it worked like a charm, now lemme extract the specific song from the concert and upload it to my ipod, i hope it works. thanks a lot ppl.
[10:31] <Justinfo> hi, how to stop cron ?
[10:31] <dean> soreau, On the left hand side you add the title and on the right hand side you add the video files but didn't know if it would be intelligent enough to figure it out you see
[10:31] <Element9> I've got the session saver plugin for gedit it just doesn't save the session. Anyone had a problem like that?
[10:31] <soreau> Justinfo: I dont think you should have a reason to..
[10:32] <Justinfo> i have to stop right now
[10:32] <soreau> Justinfo: probably service cron stop
[10:32] <Justinfo> poluting my mailbox
[10:32] <Justinfo> i receive every sec new mail
[10:32] <almoxarife> Element9: not in 11.04, no
[10:33] <dean> Thanks for the help anyway soreau
[10:33] <soreau> dean: It is.. but if you add more than one file to a single title, it will just put them all together without an option to select either
[10:34] <dean> soreau, Thats what I was thinking thats why I needed to find out if I added the 2 titles and then 2 files it would put them in the right order if that makes sense I am confusing myself typing lol
[10:34] <Justinfo> stop: Unknown instance:
[10:34] <soreau> dean: Well, you have to select the title you want to add the file to. In your case, you want one file per title
[10:35] <Justinfo> for service cron stop
[10:35] <soreau> Justinfo: Which version of ubntu?
[10:35] <Element9> almoxarife: yeah I'm using 10.10
[10:35] <dean> soreau, Ok thanks I appreciate the help anyway
[10:35] <soreau> dean: no problem
[10:35] <Justinfo> ubuntu lucid
[10:35] <dean> soreau, I just wish the quality was as good as convertxtodvd but prefer linux any day lol
[10:36] <Justinfo> Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS \n \l
[10:36] <soreau> Justinfo: Try sudo /etc/init.d/cron stop
[10:36] <Justinfo> both are not working
[10:36] <Justinfo> ◊Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[10:36] <Justinfo> utility, e.g. service cron stop
[10:37] <dirtycookie> hi
[10:37] <soreau> dean: In my experience, devede takes a long time but produces excellent quality. I think there are some settings for quality too
[10:37] <dirtycookie> hi i want to make my indicator plugin transparent so that it fits in my transparent pannel can someone tell me how
[10:37] <dirtycookie> i use xfce
[10:37] <dirtycookie> variant of ubuntu
[10:37] <soreau> Justinfo: It should work..
[10:37] <dean> soreau, I use the default settings I wouldn't know how to configure for better results thats probs why it aint as good as convertxtodvd imo lol
[10:38] <soreau> dean: When you add the video file, there is an advanced drop down area IIRC
[10:38] <Justinfo> i say not
[10:38] <Justinfo> that's the problem
[10:38] <soreau> Justinfo: Maybe try killing the cron process?
[10:39] <Justinfo> kill -9 cron
[10:39] <Justinfo> ?
[10:39] <dean> soreau, Yeah there is but you have to configure it which I would struggle with lol anyway thanks I am gonna go and try and convert them now
[10:40] <antonio_> ciao
[10:40] <dirtycookie1> hi i want to make my indicator plugin transparent so that it fits in my transparent pannel can someone tell me how
[10:40] <fmauro> join #c++
[10:41] <soreau> Justinfo: sudo chmod -x $(which cron) && sudo killall cron
[10:41] <soreau> Justinfo: That is really a brute force method.. note that sudo chmod +x /usr/sbin/cron should set the executable flag back
[10:43] <Chotaz> Hey everyone, whats the best multiprotocol IM messenger for Ubuntu 11.04?
[10:43] <mokilok> Chotaz: Pidgin seems to be the most popular.
[10:44] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> !best | Chotaz
[10:44] <Chotaz> mokilok: I might take a look-
[10:44] <Justinfo> no cron process found soreau
[10:45] <soreau> Justinfo: Then one of those commands probably worked, Go ahead an set the executable flag back
[10:45] <Justinfo> done
[10:45] <mokilok> can someone help me with the Syntax to Mount remote ntfs shares through smb?
[10:46] <Justinfo> i also checked my mailbox there is no mail
[10:46] <Justinfo> i think is woring
[10:46] <Justinfo> working
[10:46] <Justinfo> thanks soreau
[10:47] <soreau> Justinfo: No problem. I suspect the /etc/init.d command worked, despite the warning it gave. Use the same command with start to enable it again
[10:48] <Justinfo> why i have to enable it ?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> mokilok: could add it in /etc/fstab
[10:49] <mokilok> ActionPartsnip: Yeah I had read that I could add it in their for automount of shares upon startup but I need to understand how to do in manually streight from bash
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> mokilok: http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susesambacifs.html
[10:51] <soreau> Justinfo: I was just telling you, in case you wanted to restart itafter its fixed. It will start on next boot if the executable bit is set..
[10:51] <TheGuyWhoNeedsHe> Hello guy!
[10:51] <TheGuyWhoNeedsHe> guys*
[10:52] <lolcakez> i kinda need some help. will someone have some time to help me?
[10:52] <jrib> lolcakez: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[10:52] <lolcakez> well
[10:53] <lolcakez> i get this error when booting to install - unexpected error  0x0009
[10:53] <ubuntufriend> hello
[10:53] <jrib> lolcakez: you are trying to install ubuntu and you receive that error when you attempt to boot from the install cd?
[10:53] <lolcakez> exactly
[10:53] <ubuntufriend> im testing some programs i wrote and i want to time them, how would i do that??
[10:53] <jrib> lolcakez: without the cd, you do not receive the error?
[10:54] <lolcakez> i do
[10:54] <jrib> ubuntufriend: "time" command
[10:54] <jrib> lolcakez: at what point do you receive the error?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> lolcakez: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[10:55] <lolcakez> well, when i boot, the ubuntu menu comes up, i select the language, i select "install ubuntu" and i get the error
[10:55] <lolcakez> MD5 test?
[10:55] <lolcakez> sorry am huge newb at this
[10:55] <jrib> lolcakez: erm, and when do you get the error without the cd?
[10:55] <Sidewinder1> !md5sum | lolcakez
[10:55] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> lolcakez: That means to right click on a file, and select MD5 option.
[10:55] <kawb> hello, im having problems with my boot; im not sure what sda should be boot, i accidently changed it the other day and forgot where it was; http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/screenshot1fpf.png/
[10:56] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> lolcakez: As a result, you'll get something similar to this:  0cc175b9c0f1b6a831c399e269772661
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> lolcakez: you haven't tested the file you downloaded, so you have no way of knowing it is complete and error free
[10:56] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> lolcakez: You then check and see if ot exactly matches the MD5 found on the Ubuntu website.
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> kawb: type df -h to check
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> lolcakez: MD5 test isn't Ubuntu specific, so being new to Ubuntu is moot
[10:57] <ismailov> hii pllese join linux-bg.org in facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/linux-bgorg/165834412004
[10:57] <jrib> kawb: well you only have one linux partition that's not swap
[10:57] <Night-hacks> im on 11.04 with gnome 2.32 , some rendering problems, sometimes some parts of screen renders badly ?
[10:57] <jrib> lolcakez: what do you mean "without the cd I get it when it just starts to install itself"?  When what starts to install itself?
[10:57] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Night-hacks: Unity did that? is that the reason you're on Gnome now?
[10:57] <kawb> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/eZSw96T8
[10:58] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Night-hacks: You might want to try unity-2d then. That is what I am using now.
[10:58] <lolcakez> okay so what i need to do? i really cant understand
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> kawb: you are using backtrack which isn't suported here
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> kawb: where's swap and /home?
[10:58] <Night-hacks> Ubuntusawr[xD]: how to try unity2d ?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: spot the backtrack wallpaper dude ;)
[10:59] <lolcakez> okay so what i need to do? i really cant understand
[10:59] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Night-hacks: Open up terminal. Then type in: sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> kawb: you OS is supported in #backtrack-linux   not here
[10:59] <ujjain> What torrent software is controlled from a web interface like sabnzd?
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> kawb: u using backtrack?
[10:59] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> lolcakez: Sure, I will tell you  in a bit. What operating system are you on right now?
[10:59] <kawb> MonkeyDust: uhh idk :s lol - but i do have ubuntu installed aswell..
[10:59] <lolcakez> im on windows 7 ultimate
[10:59] <kawb> ActionParsnip: im also using ubuntu.
[10:59] <ubuntufriend> what does rm -rf do?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ujjain: transmission, rtorrent, ktorrent and utorrent are 4 I can think of fast
[10:59] <Night-hacks> Ubuntusawr[xD]: but what about gnome ? can i fix it ?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> kawb: you are using bactrack now, that isn't supported here
[11:00] <Mikey^> kawb: uname -a, paste it here
[11:00] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> lolcakez: What's the name of the software you will use to burn a CD.             CD is the popular way to go).
[11:00] <kawb> ActionParsnip: yes, but im having ubuntu problems aswell..
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> ubuntufriend: forcefully removes a folder and its content, it is to be avoided unless ABSOLUELY necessary
[11:00] <ujjain> utorrent in ubuntu, interesting
[11:00] <lolcakez> I installit on a CD with usual Windows CD burner, im on safe mode(at windows 7).
[11:00] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Night-hacks: How exactly did you download the Ubuntu CD?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> ujjain: it isn't packaged, so installing isn't graceful but it can be used
[11:00] <ubuntufriend> oh
[11:01] <kawb> Mikey^: Linux bt <IP_ADDRESS> #1 SMP Wed Aug 17 21:42:30 EDT 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:01] <ubuntufriend> so i better not run it then
[11:01] <Night-hacks> Ubuntusawr[xD]: the one canonical suggested
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> kawb: you are also not using an ubuntu kernel
[11:01] <ujjain> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[11:02] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Night-hacks: Can you please show me that webpage?
[11:02] <kawb> ActionParsnip: ahh fair enough.
[11:02] <Night-hacks> Ubuntusawr[xD]: not sure, it's about 2-3 months ago
[11:02] <lolcakez> What now, Ubuntusawr[xD]?
[11:02] <pythonsnake> Ubuntu is a great OS !
[11:03] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Night-hacks: Oh sorry, that question was suppose to go to lolcakez.
[11:03] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> lolcakez: How exactly did you download that Ubuntu CD?
[11:03] <lolcakez> I downloaded ubuntu iso file from ubuntu home-page and burned it to a cd.
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> lolcakez: you need to test the ISO
[11:04] <lolcakez> aight, how do i do that
[11:04] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> lolcakez: Exact software name please?
[11:04] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> That you used for burning.
[11:05] <lolcakez> windows cd burner, the program what windows has from the start
[11:05] <firas> Hi guys, I'm a developer. Kernel.org is down , where can i download some linux packages like iproute2 ?
[11:05] <ikonia> firas: that's not really an ubuntu issue
[11:05] <ikonia> firas: or are you talking about ubuntu repos ?
[11:05] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> lolcakez: Did that verified? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=windows7_burn.jpg
[11:06] <lolcakez> yeah
[11:06] <firas> I know but I can't find anyone on linux from scratch IRC
[11:06] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Okay.
[11:06] <ikonia> firas: that's not our problem
[11:06] <Mikey^> firas: did you try kernel.org mirrors
[11:06] <firas> Ok Thanks
[11:07] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> kernel.oeg is down
[11:07] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> lolcakez: Use this software to check the MD5 of your CD: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/checksum_control_portable
[11:07] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> s/.oeg/.org
[11:07] <pamwe_chete> is there a command line application that can covert pdf files to html?
[11:07] <cutiyar> there is any app to let me create video with mp3 ?
[11:07] <lolcakez> okay
[11:07] <pythonsnake> Hmm. hmm.
[11:08] <pythonsnake> xev doesn't detect my fn+f9
[11:08] <LjL> !info poppler-utils | pamwe_chete
[11:08] <pythonsnake> I'm using 10.04
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> lolcakez: also try cdburnerxp or some other free app (will use standard burning stuff)
[11:08] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> It's a portable app, so... What this means is that a "Portable App" doesn't really install into your system. It just create a "small" folder where you can just  Open and use the program Right-out the Box!
[11:08] <kawe> ActionParsnip: did you ban me?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> kawe: no
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> kawe: I'm not an op
[11:08] <kawe> ActionParsnip: odd.. i cant join backtrack-linux and i dont think ive ever been there..
[11:09] <rww> kawe: *!~root@* is banned from there
[11:09] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> kawe: Change your IDENT
[11:09] <megalomix> hello
[11:09] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Or USERNAME
[11:09] <kawe> Ubuntusawr[xD]: how do i do that
[11:09] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> kawe: Or simply, don't login to chat as root.
[11:09] <Mikey^> kawe: dont ever irc as root
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> !backtrack
[11:09] <megalomix> guys I read that TLS 1.0 is buggy, how could i use TLS 1.2 i think it is supported by openssl no?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> yeah it is #backtrack-linux
[11:10] <kawe> Ubuntusawr[xD]: , Mikey^  its bt im forced as root lol
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> I just joined, 183 users are in there
[11:10] <megalomix> ?
[11:11] <Mikey^> kawe: useradd -m kawe; passwd kawe
[11:11] <pythonsnake> is there anyway to get 2.6.35 ?
[11:11] <pythonsnake> with 10.04
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> kawe: no, you aren't. your distro insists on you logging in as root (bad idea) so you launch your irc client as root (worse idea) and tries to use that username in irc
[11:12] <Mikey^> kawe: I guess you are using xchat
[11:12] <kawe> Mikey^: irrsi
[11:12] <Mikey^> Hmm, use -n kawe
[11:12] <kawe> -n kawe
[11:12] <Mikey^> hmm, I mean create a user and then use irrsi. Most channels block root
[11:13] <kawe> after i create my account how do i log in instead of root
[11:13] <kawe> -n: command not found
[11:13] <Mikey^> kawe:  on the commandline, su - kawe
[11:13]  * ActionParsnip shakes his head
[11:13] <kawe> brb
[11:14] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> kawe: Type this command in irssi Terminal chat client:              /set user_name someuser
[11:14] <Mikey^> Ubuntusawr[xD]: isnt that the nickname used at irc or?
[11:15] <Mikey^> interesting..
[11:15] <pythonsnake> What is the latest LTS linux kernel ?
[11:16] <Sidewinder1> 2.6.32..33.72
[11:16] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Mikey^: IDENT/Username            Most people ends up having root for user/ident on IRC (internet relay chat). So I asked him/her to change it. Some chat rooms bans  *!root@*
[11:18] <heli> hi does anyone know how to execute bas command as root before  user login?
[11:19] <pythonsnake> How to get in root ?
[11:19] <LjL> !root | Python1320
[11:19] <RoDiMuS-X> su
[11:19] <LjL> pythonsnake even
[11:19] <Colin969_> Anyone know any Java specific IRC Channels?
[11:19] <LjL> Colin969_: ##java
[11:19] <pythonsnake> RoDiMuS-X: what is pass
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> heli: add it in /etc/rc.local  above the exit 0 line
[11:19] <RoDiMuS-X> do, sudo chpasswd
[11:19] <Gentoo64> pythonsnake, use sudo -i to get a root terminal
[11:19] <Valentin|Flea86> Anyone know any homebrew PC /retro channels?
[11:19] <RoDiMuS-X> set it to what you want
[11:20] <RoDiMuS-X> then su
[11:20] <ikonia> Valentin|Flea86: no
[11:20] <pythonsnake> thanks
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Valentin|Flea86: #hardware possibly...
[11:20] <Valentin|Flea86> thanks for the replies :)
[11:20] <LjL> !noroot | RoDiMuS-X
[11:20] <RoDiMuS-X> Anyone know where update-manager stores a log file?
[11:20] <Gentoo64> why do you not "support" root password btw?
[11:21] <pythonsnake> ha!
[11:21] <pythonsnake> found it!
[11:21] <pythonsnake> sudo su
[11:21] <Mikey^> Gentoo64: because ubuntu defaults to sudo
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> Gentoo64: too dangerous, security etc
[11:21] <LjL> Gentoo64: because sudo can be used to access root just fine
[11:21] <Mikey^> and locks the root user by default
[11:21] <Gentoo64> i know, just wondered
[11:21] <pythonsnake> LjL: sudo su :)
[11:21] <LjL> pythonsnake: sudo su is silly, use sudo -i
[11:21] <pythonsnake> same
[11:22] <pythonsnake> thanks :-D
[11:22] <RoDiMuS-X> Thats like saying you can't root or jailbreak your phone
[11:22] <LjL> RoDiMuS-X: nonsense.
[11:22] <pythonsnake> how can I get 2.6.35 ?
[11:22] <Mikey^> :)
[11:22] <LjL> pythonsnake: not same, sudo su doesn't set up the environment properly, sudo -i does
[11:22] <heli> ActionParsnip by adding it to /etc/rc.local it gets executed at the end of every level? how can i run it just once?
[11:22] <pythonsnake> LjL: ah ok
[11:23] <BBop> Bonjour, j'ai une pièce avec 4 PC dedans, j'ai un pc relié par CPL avec ma Box, j'aimerais connaître un moyen de duppliquer la connexion Internet pour l'offrir aux autres PC, que puis-je faire ?
[11:23] <LjL> !fr | BBop
[11:23] <RoDiMuS-X> So I take it nobody knows where update-manager stores its log files?
[11:23] <Mikey^> RoDiMuS-X: check in /var/log
[11:23] <Mikey^> should be there somewhere
[11:24] <RoDiMuS-X> its not in there
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> heli: just before the login screen (or prompt) shows, it runs
[11:24] <pythonsnake> sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-oneiric linux-headers-generic-lts-backport-oneiric
[11:24] <RoDiMuS-X> there is term.log but that just shows the packages that were installed
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> RoDiMuS-X: /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:24] <pythonsnake> E: Couldn't find package linux-image-generic-lts-backport-oneiric
[11:24] <pythonsnake> any ideas ?
[11:24] <RoDiMuS-X> I am looking for error log
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> pythonsnake: ask in #ubuntu+1 for oneiric
[11:24] <RoDiMuS-X> let me check that thank ActionParsnip
[11:24] <heli> ok
[11:24] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: it's not oneiric, but lucid
[11:24] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: backports of kernel
[11:24] <pythonsnake> as you can see
[11:25] <heli> btw code i wanted to run is:echo "10" > "/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness"
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> pythonsnake: then what you are doing is not supported either. Mixing packages between releases is not advised
[11:25] <heli> i ve noticed it worces only once
[11:25] <heli> do you think it would  work before login?
[11:26] <heli> it's supposed to set backlight level
[11:26] <Colin969_> Will Terminal ask for a password when trying to delete a file?
[11:26] <LjL> Colin969_: no
[11:26] <pythonsnake> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47796/can-i-update-the-kernel-of-my-10-04-lts-to-the-latest-kernel ActionParsnip
[11:26] <Colin969_> Ah, good.
[11:26] <dirtycookie> hi i need some help plz
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> pythonsnake: its in the kernel ppa http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/364792   use at your own risk
[11:26] <LjL> Colin969_: but you'll need to use "sudo" (which does ask for a password) if you want to delete files not owned by you
[11:26] <Gentoo64> Colin969_, you can use rm -i for confirmation
[11:26] <pythonsnake> !ask | dirtycookie
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Colin969_: not if you don't use sudo
[11:27] <Colin969_> Oh, so I cant delete the contents of /tmp without a password.
[11:27] <dirtycookie> i have freshly installed xubuntu and i want to change the fore- and background color of my indicator plugin
[11:27] <dirtycookie> how can i do that
[11:27] <Gentoo64> Colin969_, why woud you
[11:27] <Gentoo64> some are X stuff
[11:27] <Gentoo64> tmp isnt all owned by user
[11:27] <Mikey^> Colin969_: It will be done on boot
[11:27] <lng> hi! I have latest Ubuntu on my laptop, but it has classic Gnome UI. How to switch to that modern one?
[11:28] <Colin969_> I pressumed that was the Temporary folder o_O
[11:28] <Gentoo64> Colin969_, it is
[11:28] <Gentoo64> gets cleared on boot
[11:28] <Colin969_> Oh.
[11:28] <lng> dirtycookie: what a nice nickname! ;-)
[11:28] <Mikey^> lol
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> lng: log of, select Ubuntu from the session menu and log in
[11:28] <dirtycookie> i know :p thx
[11:28] <RoDiMuS-X> lng: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[11:28] <lng> gome-shell?
[11:28] <Gentoo64> gnome 3 is bad though on ubuntu is it not?
[11:28] <lng> ActionParsnip: k
[11:29] <RoDiMuS-X> lng: yes
[11:29] <Mikey^> lng: what version of ubuntu do you use?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> >°))))><
[11:29] <dirtycookie> lng: named my laptop littlebit
[11:29] <pythonsnake> ActionParsnip: xev doesn't detect fn+f9, after googling, I discovered that it's a 32 bug and it's fixed at 35. is there any supported way to upgrade ?
[11:29] <dirtycookie> lng: since it is a eeePC
[11:29] <Gentoo64> Python1320, be easiest to use a newer ubuntu
[11:29] <lng> natty
[11:29] <RoDiMuS-X> lng: if you are running natty, http://www.dreamingisdigital.com/2011/05/28/gnome-3-and-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[11:29] <Mikey^> dirtycookie: what model?
[11:30] <pulse00> hi all. anyone knows how to find the partition a specific directory is mounted in?
[11:30] <ikonia> pythonsnake: no, there is not
[11:30] <dirtycookie> Mikey^: 4g
[11:30] <Gentoo64> pulse00, type mount
[11:30] <Gentoo64> or df -h
[11:30] <Mikey^> dirtycookie: what? your eeepc
[11:31] <pythonsnake> ikonia: ah ok
[11:31] <dirtycookie> Mickey^: yes that is what i found on the back of the eeePC
[11:31] <Gentoo64> RoDiMuS-X, afaik gnome 3 isnt supported. even in the link it warns it could break
[11:31] <Mikey^> Hmm, ok
[11:31] <pythonsnake> so I have to use it at my own risk :-)
[11:31] <RoDiMuS-X> Yeah I wrote it
[11:31] <lng> RoDiMuS-X: cheers!
[11:32] <Gentoo64> good luck lol
[11:32] <dirtycookie> Mikey^: i think it is a 901
[11:32] <lng> RoDiMuS-X: is it stable?
[11:32] <RoDiMuS-X> I am using it
[11:32] <lng> k
[11:32] <RoDiMuS-X> I have been since May
[11:32] <RoDiMuS-X> There are some bugs
[11:32] <lng> RoDiMuS-X: I am Gentoo user - hope it will not be too hard
[11:32] <lng> :-)
[11:32] <Gentoo64> but people come in here saying "I installed gnome 3" now i got to reinstall
[11:32] <RoDiMuS-X> If you are comfortable with restoring, then I don't recommend
[11:32] <Odaym> gnome 3 must die
[11:32] <lng> why?
[11:33] <lng> Odaym: ^
[11:33] <Odaym> why not?
[11:33] <Gentoo64> gnome 3 is nice. but bloated
[11:33] <RoDiMuS-X> 11.10 is running on Gnome 3
[11:33] <lng> Gentoo64: hey!
[11:33] <Mikey^> You can always use the classic gnome by using fallback mode
[11:33] <Mic1> Because it's not what I'm used to and I'm afraid of change and such and tired of learning
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> or use Mint
[11:33] <Gentoo64> lng, hi
[11:33] <zeroedout> woot gnome 3!
[11:33] <IdleOne> !ot
[11:33] <RoDiMuS-X> lng: if you like Unity, that Gnome 3 install will break it
[11:34] <lng> Gentoo64: I have Gentoo as well
[11:34] <Gentoo64> ok
[11:34] <lng> :-)
[11:34] <RoDiMuS-X> If your like me, and dislike Unity then no problems
[11:34] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> RoDiMuS-X: I thought that's Unity BASED on Gnome 3.
[11:34] <pulse00> Gentoo64: my actual problem is that i need to enable acl for the partition in /etc/fstab. however, the ubuntu system is running in a virtual machine at my hosting provider. i'm having fear of f*cking things up ;) this is the /etc/fstab: https://gist.github.com . not sure if the partition for the acl setting is already in there
[11:34] <RoDiMuS-X> This is correct
[11:34] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> RoDiMuS-X: Woah woah woah, why the hate?
[11:34] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> o_O
[11:34] <Bartzy> root is limited to max number of open files as defined in /etc/security/limits.conf , or only to ulimit shell limits ? Are those two connected ?
[11:34] <RoDiMuS-X> No hate I dislike
[11:35] <dirtycookie>  i have freshly installed xubuntu and i want to change the fore- and background color of my indicator plugin, does anyone know how to do this??
[11:35] <lng> Gentoo64: I have mutiple PCs
[11:35] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> It's like the sexiest change I've seen in Ubuntu.
[11:35] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> RoDiMuS-X: Well I mean to say, why the dislike. xD
[11:35] <lng> Gentoo64: for laptop - Ubuntu. for home pc - Gentoo
[11:35] <lng> Gentoo64: for servers - Debian
[11:35] <Gentoo64> lng, ok. i think itss offtopic
[11:35] <RoDiMuS-X> Ubuntusawr[xD],  it does not function in an efficient manner for how I do things.
[11:35] <Gentoo64> :)
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> for laptop - xpud :)
[11:36] <dirtycookie> i have freshly installed xubuntu and i want to change the fore- and background color of my indicator plugin, does anyone know how to do this??
[11:36] <lng> Gentoo64: I don't kare
[11:36] <lng> ;-)
[11:36] <IdleOne> lng: Please start
[11:36] <lng> IdleOne: pardon?
[11:36] <RoDiMuS-X> Ubuntusawr[xD], I like to customize, I like how Gnome-Shell has extensions that can be written using JavaScript
[11:37] <IdleOne> lng: start caring about our channel guidelines.
[11:37] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> RoDiMuS-X: As in what terms? is it slow? o_O    In my experience, Unity performed better for me than Gnome 2 (metacity), sometimes, metacity would "bloat" in memory size from time to time. Oftenly, near 100MBs, and ont time, it has gotten to like 400MB of ram :S
[11:37] <IdleOne> !guidelines > lng just in case you haven't read them.
[11:37] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> RoDiMuS-X: Ah, I se. Awesome.
[11:37] <lng> IdleOne: I already told you.
[11:37] <RoDiMuS-X> Ubuntusawr[xD], Not speed, Tweakiness :D
[11:37] <lng> bye
[11:38] <RoDiMuS-X> Ubuntusawr[xD], I will admit the lens feature is pretty cool but I like having no dock and Unity docks to the left
[11:38] <xgt001> hello... i installed kde in my default ubuntu install... but now the chromium and firefox browser fonts look kde style even in unity... please tell me how to revert to default ubuntu look
[11:38] <pythonsnake> I've added ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa repo but linux-lts-backport-oneiric
[11:39] <pythonsnake> opps
[11:39] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> RoDiMuS-X: But it at least autohides. But I see your point.
[11:39] <pythonsnake> I've added ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa repo but it doesn't find linux-lts-backport-oneiric package
[11:39] <RoDiMuS-X> Ubuntusawr[xD], Thats the awesome thing about Linux, so many choices, So I never say I hate something because I know people put in hard work to create
[11:39] <Gentoo64> xgt001, installing more than 1 de is a mess. youll get stuff autostarted, and config files changed all over the place
[11:40] <Mikey^> xgt001: you can configure how gtk apps look in kde in the kde control center
[11:40] <ikonia> pythonsnake: remember the bit "not supported" - this is it
[11:40] <pythonsnake> even repo related problem ? ikonia
[11:40] <Gentoo64> Python1320, why dont you use a newer ubuntu where the kernels get updated?
[11:40] <ikonia> pythonsnake you'll find that packages for a distro that isn't stable/released won't get backported too
[11:41] <pythonsnake> Gentoo64: 11.04 ?
[11:41] <Gentoo64> afaik 11.04 hasnt got 2.6.32
[11:41] <Gentoo64> so yes
[11:41] <pythonsnake> ikonia: what do you mean ? I don't undersand your last statement
[11:41] <ikonia> pythonsnake: 11.10 isn't released/stable yet, so why would people backport packages from it
[11:41] <ikonia> !info linux-image natty
[11:42] <ikonia> there you go 11.04 has 2.6.38
[11:42] <pythonsnake> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/364792 ikonia
[11:42] <RoDiMuS-X> Linux 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu
[11:42] <fireprint> hi guys. i like my setup as is, on natty gui. But now that im "done".. id like my server to close down gui, but keep network settings and what not. Any way to do this?
[11:43] <ikonia> pythonsnake: I can see it.
[11:43] <toumbo> Please check those links http://pastebin.ubuntu-gr.org/d6b33a27e
[11:43] <test> is anyone knows how i can get the network utilisation statistics from zabbix database?
[11:43] <Mikey^> fireprint: are you using ubuntu-server ?
[11:43] <toumbo> http://pastebin.ubuntu-gr.org/d2f218d3f
[11:43] <fireprint> i know how to boot up without gui, however my network is not saved. And having it wpa i am having serious issues trying to get the network working.
[11:44] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Mikey^: Apparently not.
[11:44] <fireprint> mikey^ no sir.
[11:44] <Mikey^> Mikey^: you can try using wicd
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> fireprint: add the boot option: text
[11:45] <pythonsnake> when will 11.04 support be dropped?
[11:45] <fireprint> ActionParsnip, i've done that. However when it boots directly from grub into text.. my wifi on the server wont connect. having trouble with wpa.. which works just fine on guimode.
[11:45] <jrib> pythonsnake: 11.04 + 1.06 = 12.10
[11:45] <fireprint> i've had *nix for 3 days now, so sorry if my explaining is a bit off.
[11:45] <Mikey^> fireprint: Use wicd
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> fireprint: +1 for wicd
[11:46] <fireprint> Mikey^, oh i can use wicd in termina?
[11:46] <Mikey^> It has a commandline connetion utiliy
[11:46] <Mikey^> fireprint: yes you can
[11:46] <Mikey^> fireprint: wicd-cli
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Mikey^: it is a GUI app and also has wicd-ncurses
[11:46] <fireprint> ohh.. nice. that might actually do the trick. I thought that was only for gui. thank you botjh ActionParsnip and Mikey^
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> fireprint: ^
[11:46] <Mikey^> ActionParsnip: yes, I know
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Mikey^: wrong target, my bad
[11:47] <xgt001> Mikey^: where to find it? in system settings in kde ?? sorry i am a kde noob
[11:47] <fireprint> again.. thanks guys! appreciate the help.
[11:47] <Mikey^> xgt001: Sorry, you have to install a package to get that option
[11:48] <pythonsnake> so 10.04 support will be dropped before 11.04 ?
[11:48] <ikonia> pythonsnake: no
[11:48] <ikonia> !lts
[11:49] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> pythonsnake: I believe @ 12.10.
[11:49] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> jrib was hinting at time.
[11:49] <Mikey^> xgt001: the package name is kde-config-gtk-style
[11:49] <Martin_> I can connect to my server but it seems to have issues with outgoing connections
[11:49] <Martin_> sendspacedev:~# curl -i <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:49] <Martin_> curl: (7) Failed to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>: Network is unreachable
[11:49] <Sidewinder1> pythonsnake, Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[11:49] <Martin_> that's twitter.. any ideas what would cause it?
[11:49] <ikonia> pythonsnake: so 10.04 = 04/2010 + 3 years support for desktop, 5 for server
[11:50] <ikonia> pythonsnake: 11.04 = 04/2011 + 18months support for desktop+server
[11:50] <xgt001> Mikey^: could u please tell that package name?
[11:50] <xgt001> thanks :)
[11:50] <gahmehgahmehha> hey there pythonsnake
[11:51] <Milossh> hello. When I want to create an archive, split into volumes options are greyed out
[11:51] <Milossh> what's wrong?
[11:52] <Milossh> 11.04
[11:52] <StevenR> Martin_: looks like a network routing problem
[11:52] <fireprint> Mikey^,  quick question about wicd. It seems to just do "rename failed" any quicfix for this or do i need to check into it.
[11:52] <pythonsnake> gahmehgahmehha: sup
[11:53] <Martin_> ~# curl -i google.com
[11:53] <Martin_> curl: (7) Failed to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>: Network is unreachable
[11:53] <Zerpy> his everyone, does anybody knows a tool, to benchmark web-applications with? etc. Scalability?
[11:53] <Martin_> StevenR: nope.. :)
[11:53] <pythonsnake> ikonia: thanks
[11:53] <Martin_> it's definitely an issue with my configs or something.. it's a vbox image
[11:53] <StevenR> Martin_: well. feel free to provide more information
[11:53] <Martin_> StevenR: like what? I can ssh into it and i can view the http server running on it
[11:53] <Martin_> it just seems to have issues connecting to anything
[11:53] <Martin_> it has 3 network interfaces all setup via a bridged network adapter on my mac
[11:54] <Mikey^> fireprint: You should run only one, either wicd or network manager. I think you need to stop and disable network manager first
[11:54] <fireprint> ah i see. probably due to the fact that im still in gui.. thanks again!
[11:54] <stan_> hej
[11:54] <StevenR> Martin_: ok. pastebin the output of ifconfig -a  and route -n   then.
[11:54] <fireprint> logging off now. be back on my laptop upstairs. freakin cold down here in the basement. hehe
[11:55] <Martin_> StevenR: http://pastie.org/private/nmsgf59onx9ljbhtcxnmnq
[11:55] <StevenR> Martin_: you have no gateway configured
[11:56] <xgt001> Mikey^: should i login and logout to make the changes effective?
[11:56] <Mikey^> xgt001: I dont think so
[11:56] <StevenR> Martin_: the routing table has no entries to allow it to work out what to do with addresses that aren't 192.168.0.x
[11:57] <RoDiMuS-X> Zerpy: You can use firebug or Chrome SpeedTest
[11:57] <Zerpy> RodiMus-X: So I can test for concurrent connections, and so on?
[11:58] <Martin_> StevenR: how do I add one? /etc/network/interfaces I guess?
[11:59] <StevenR> Martin_: yes
[11:59] <StevenR> Martin_: under the main interface stanza, do gateway 192.168.0.x  (using the IP of your router of course)
[11:59] <RoDiMuS-X> Zerpy: I use Chrome developer tools for that
[12:00] <RoDiMuS-X> Zerpy: on the client side
[12:00] <Martin_> StevenR: yep got it... ifdown/ifup and now it's working
[12:00] <Martin_> thanks for your help
[12:00] <StevenR> np
[12:00] <RoDiMuS-X> Zerpy: on the server side, I look at my httpd logs
[12:01] <Sidewinder1> Milossh, Since no one else answered, I'll take a guess; perhaps you need to create the archive first, then split into volumes? Just a guess.
[12:01] <Zerpy> RoDiMus-X: That I mean is like, how much requests/s I can get if I have etc. 100 "users" loading the site at same time, like scalability testing
[12:01] <Milossh> Sidewinder1, nope. I found out it doesn't work with default set of archive types. Works with rar though
[12:01] <django> hey, can someone help me locate the evolution plugins folder?
[12:01] <TheGuyWhoNeedsHe> does anyone have some time to help me
[12:01] <Milossh> but thanks Sidewinder1
[12:01] <RoDiMuS-X> Zerpy: Do you have a test server setup
[12:02] <Sidewinder1> Milossh, My pleasure.
[12:02] <Zerpy> RoDiMuS-X: Yeah
[12:03] <RoDiMuS-X> Zerpy: you running Apache, PHP MySQL setup on the test
[12:03] <Mikey^> django: /usr/lib/evolution/
[12:03] <Zerpy> RoDiMuS-X: yep
[12:03] <django> thanks Mikey^
[12:04] <RoDiMuS-X> Ok I think I might have the tool for you
[12:05] <Zerpy> RoDiMuS-X: nice!
[12:05] <RoDiMuS-X> Zerpy: Jmeter
[12:05] <Mikey^> django: but you can also use it in your own home dir
[12:05] <Mikey^> check .evolution/
[12:06] <RoDiMuS-X> Zerpy: http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/
[12:06] <Zerpy> RoDiMus-X: Thank you!, I will look into it
[12:07] <soreau> ubottu: ping
[12:10] <mike-w> hi,folks
[12:11] <mike-w> i compiled a program and install it, but now i want to uninstall it. how can i accomplish this?
[12:11] <fireprint> hi again guys. grub in text mode and wicd still tells me rename was faulty. So ill just stick around here incase i need to ask something :)
[12:13] <fireprint> will network manager run eventhough its on textmode and not gui?
[12:14] <Mikey^> fireprint: yes, stop the service
[12:14] <Mikey^> disable it, so it wont run on boot up
[12:14] <Sidewinder1> fireprint, I could be totally wrong and perhaps I didn't understand your original question but, couldn't you just boot into normal GUI, then hit "Ctrl-Alt-F1" to 'blow' GUI and get to command line/
[12:14] <fireprint> thank you again Mikey^ ..
[12:15] <Kirior> i have a 1TB HDD that i lost all m files on and the Ubuntu cannot see the whole size (onl about 15GB is visible) is there an program i can use to recover and fix it?
[12:15] <Mikey^> Sidewinder1: GUI still runs, he doesnt want that
[12:15] <Kirior> Sidewinder1: hi how are ou?
[12:15] <fireprint> sidewinder1: yeah what Mikey^ said. hehe trying to cut down on recources on my server as its a old computer. ;)
[12:15] <Sidewinder1> Mikey^, Figured that was too simple of an answer. :D
[12:15] <ANDruid> any hotkey for workspace switcher??
[12:15] <Mikey^> Sidewinder1: :D
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> Kirior, Mornin'.
[12:16] <Kirior> Sidewinder1: how ou been? me letter no working :P
[12:16] <todd_> I am looking for a command that I can execute that will take a single picture from my webcam, BUT I want it to prompt the user with a preview so they can be sure its in frame... help!?
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> ?
[12:19] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> IdleOne: Are you here by any chance?
[12:19] <todd_> I am looking for a command that I can execute that will take a single picture from a webcam, BUT I want it to prompt the user with a preview so they can be sure its in frame... help!?
[12:20] <IdleOne> Ubuntusawr[xD]: yes.
[12:20] <Ubuntusawr[xD]> Mind if I show you something real quick in private. (It's not my issue, but it's relating to ubuntu)
[12:20] <IdleOne> sure thing
[12:21] <Kirior> Sidewinder1: m last endovours were complete disaster :P
[12:22] <OerHeks> todd_,  use cheese
[12:22] <Kirior> Sidewinder1: almost completl messed m grub and bootloader after installing that distro i mentioned
[12:23] <todd_> DerHeks: How do you run cheese to take a single picture? I cant seem to find the man pages for command line arguments?
[12:23] <soreau> !webcam
[12:23] <soreau> !info cheese
[12:24] <todd_> ubottu: I read that, not much help on the single pic issue.
[12:24] <todd_> lol
[12:24] <todd_> I am looking for a command that I can execute that will take a single picture from my webcam, BUT I want it to prompt the user with a preview so they can be sure its in frame... help!?
[12:24] <OerHeks> todd_, why commandline if you want to show it afterwards, makes no sense ..
[12:24] <xgt001> in synpatic, mark for complete removal refers to sudo apt-get purge right?
[12:25] <OerHeks> use a mouse like everybody ?
[12:25] <Kirior> an one here know a program to recover lost files and messed tables in external HDD? (it was 1TB now it sees onl 15GB or less)
[12:26] <xgt001> Kirior: testdisk is very good
[12:26] <todd_> DerHeks: No I want to take 1 and only one pic, but I only want it taken when the persons face is in frame, not 1/2 off the screen
[12:26] <joel135> xgt001: I've always thought that
[12:26] <todd_> DerHeks: Make sense?
[12:27] <soreau> !info streamer | todd_
[12:27] <Kirior> xgt001: will it fix that small part that loads before bootloader that is responsible for overseeing the whole size of hdd? (i hope its clear enough)
[12:28] <soreau> todd_: streamer -f jpeg -o /path/to/image.jpeg then script it to show you the image and do what you want
[12:28] <todd_> soreau: No streamer takes a picture immediatly, so the person Im taking a pic of is probably 1/2 out of frame, is there a way to get it to wait till the person is in frame?
[12:28] <OerHeks> soreau you re-invented cheese :-D
[12:29] <bj0rn2> how long does it take from a package version is released until it's available in the repository?
[12:29] <joel135> todd_: you can save pictures using mplayer: http://www.infohit.net/blog/post/taking-snapshots-from-a-webcam-under-linux.html
[12:29] <soreau> todd_: There is no program to do that. You just have to take the pic, open it to view it and decide if its acceptable then delete and repeat if not etc
[12:29] <xangua> !latest | bj0rn2
[12:30] <soreau> joel135: nice
[12:30] <joel135> todd_: I'd suggest you write a small script
[12:30] <todd_> joel: mplayer has the same issue... it takes a picture immediatly, so the person Im taking a pic of is probably 1/2 out of frame, is there a way to get it to wait till the person is in frame?
[12:30] <soreau> indeed
[12:30] <soreau> todd_: You need to write a script to suit your needs
[12:30] <todd_> joel135: This was no problem in windows, :-(
[12:31] <todd_> soreu: OK how?
[12:31] <bj0rn2> xangua: that's not what I mean, I mean a fix for a package. example gnome-shell 3.1.92-0ubuntu1 was released a few days ago but in repo I get the previous <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu4
[12:31] <joel135> todd_: make mplayer open a video stream from the camera in a window. when the window is closed, next command will be run. that command should save the image to a filesystem.
[12:32] <xangua> bj0rn2: sounds like that is what you mean
[12:32] <soreau> todd_: take pic, open it to view, if acceptable, enter y, else enter n and have it delete the image and start at step one
[12:32] <todd_> joel135: ICK! really? close the window to take the picture, not real intuitive is it?
[12:32] <joel135> todd_: so: display video from device; take picture
[12:33] <bj0rn2> xangua: yeah you are right :) but it's in oneiric repo so upgrades are released
[12:33] <joel135> todd_: you could write a small application to do it if you don't think it's too much of a waste of time
[12:33] <todd_> Come on people, its such a simple thing, a command that will take a picture of something, not just take a picture... there has to be something???
[12:34] <OerHeks> todd_, there is, cheese ..
[12:34] <soreau> todd_: You are making this way more difficult than what it is
[12:34] <soreau> todd_: There are a plethora of tools and ways to do this. Get creative.
[12:35] <iridium> todd_, it takes 2 seconds to capture or what?
[12:35] <todd_> soreau: OK simplify it for me... please :-)
[12:35] <soreau> todd_: In one word? Cheese.
[12:35] <todd_> soreau: OK how do I know when the picture was taken with cheese?
[12:35] <jcook_5xdata> I have a problem. I bought a Lenovo G575 and ubuntu does not work well on it.  I can not deiced if I should return can get some thing different or wait and use the crappy OS till they catch up
[12:35] <soreau> todd_: You will have to try it and find out for yourself
[12:36] <soreau> I dont use webcams
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:36] <robinbowes> upgrading just one package? "apt-get upgrade xtrabackup" seems to want to upgrade everything.
[12:36] <todd_> soreau: ok so you are giving me advice about something you really do not know about,... thanks :-(
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> jcook_5xdata: which release have you installed? lsb_release -sc    will tell you
[12:36] <soreau> jcook_5xdata: First thing, probably should remove the AMD driver and use the default open radeon one
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> robinbowes: they are deps
[12:37] <ujjain> Can somebody help me find out why my Ubuntu does not shut down? http://images.codepad.eu/vi-23MciW.jpg
[12:37] <robinbowes> ActionParsnip: nah, they're not!
[12:37] <soreau> todd_: The point is that you need to try things and figure it out. My do a web search with google about exactly what you want
[12:37] <todd_> DerHiks, joel135: Sorry where were we?
[12:37] <jcook_5xdata> ActionParsnip,  11.10
[12:37] <ubuntufriend> how do i recalibrate my output buffer matrix?
[12:38] <todd_> soreau: Obviously, and I did that, I would not waste your time on something I did not try and research first
[12:38] <ikonia> ubuntufriend: got a real question ?
[12:38] <ikonia> ubuntufriend: if not join #startrek
[12:38] <jcook_5xdata> soreau, will that drive a second monitor
[12:38] <soreau> todd_: You arent the first one to use a webcam on linux
[12:38] <soreau> s/My/Maybe
[12:38] <soreau> jcook_5xdata: Second, what wifi chip is it?
[12:39] <ubuntufriend> how do i kill a module
[12:39] <ubuntufriend> it keeps telling me it's in use
[12:39] <ikonia> ubuntufriend: what sort of module
[12:39] <ubuntufriend> but i hink its stuck
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> jcook_5xdata: then ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:39] <ubuntufriend> ndiswrapper
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> you will be assimilated
[12:39] <ubuntufriend> for my wireless
[12:39] <raven_> after distri-upgrade to 11.04 no graphical desktop any more - stops at "starting timidity++ alsa emulation" on tty7 - any solution?
[12:39] <FloodBot1> ubuntufriend: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <todd_> soreau: obviously, and I dont appreciate being talked down to
[12:39] <ikonia> ubuntufriend: you need to rmmod it,
[12:39] <ikonia> ubuntufriend: or reboot
[12:39] <iridium> ubuntufriend, you only need an optronic relay laser
[12:39] <joel135> todd_: to know when the picture was taken: http://www.econowics.com/linux/258/show-image-properties-meta-data-from-cli-linux/
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> jcook_5xdata: I suggest you use natty
[12:39] <robinbowes> todd_: I suggest you get a thicker skin
[12:39] <jcook_5xdata> soreau, Atheros AR285
[12:39] <ikonia> iridium: please don't help him troll
[12:40] <ubuntufriend> dont wanna reboot and it told me i have to set some variable when i compiled my kernel
[12:40] <ubuntufriend> but i already installed
[12:40] <ikonia> ubuntufriend: then you will need to reboot if you need to recompile your kernel
[12:40] <soreau> jcook_5xdata: Yes it will drive multiple monitors and atheros should work great..
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> jcook_5xdata: #ubuntu+1 is support for Oneiric until it is released, the latest release supported here is Natty
[12:40] <joel135> todd_: use grep etc on that output. look for line lines   Exif:DateTime*
[12:40] <soreau> jcook_5xdata: at least from my experiences, atheros wifi works well with the ath*k drivers
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> ubuntufriend: with ksplice, there's no need to reboot after a kernel upgrade
[12:40] <ubuntufriend> no i don't wanan recompile my kernel
[12:41] <ubuntufriend> wait
[12:41] <ubuntufriend> can i do that
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> ubuntufriend: sure#
[12:41] <todd_> joel135: ok but what the heck should I use for yourpicture.jpg???
[12:41] <soreau> jcook_5xdata: If you are on 11.10, use #ubuntu+1 please
[12:41] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: is that enabled in ubuntu....is it setup
[12:41] <ubuntufriend> how do i recompile my kernel and how do i set its settings
[12:41] <cjs> What's a good program to automatically (at night or whatever) download new podcasts for me from a bunch of RSS feeds?
[12:41] <ubuntufriend> i thought compiling kernel is something you do once when you install the OS
[12:41] <ikonia> ubuntufriend: please show me the document you are following
[12:41] <ikonia> ubuntufriend: it is, please show me the document you are following
[12:41] <jcook_5xdata> ActionParsnip, soreau, ok
[12:41] <joel135> todd_: the picture that contains the information that you want
[12:41] <todd_> joel135: If i remember correctly cheese saves anywhere on the filesystem
[12:41] <cjs> Ideally something that's already available as a package for 11.04.
[12:42] <robinbowes> ActionParsnip: it seems that "apt-get install xtrabackup" did the trick
[12:42] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: is ksplice installed/configured/usable in Ubuntu ?
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> ikonia: ksplice is now property of Oracle, so it's a serious thing
[12:42] <jpmh> cjs: i like gpodder
[12:42] <ubuntufriend> im not following adocument you said i need to reboot to recompile my kernel
[12:42] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: that's not what I asked
[12:42] <todd_> joel135: so I am a bit confused on your post???
[12:42] <ubuntufriend> so the document is you ikonia
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> lemme check
[12:42] <soreau> ubuntufriend: Why do you want to roll your own kernel?
[12:42] <ikonia> ubuntufriend: please show me the document you are following that tells me you need to recompile your kernel
[12:42] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: "no, it's not"
[12:42] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: hence why I'm wondering why you are blindly recommending it
[12:43] <cjs> jpmh: Thanks.
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> ikonia: what are you saying?
[12:43] <joel135> todd_: Cheese stores your pictures in a folder called Webcam inside the XDG-Directory set for Pictures (in most distributions its ~/Pictures/Webcam)
[12:43] <ubuntufriend> there exists not a document that tells you or me to recompile my kernel. the only interaction i have had pertaining to the recompiling of kernel comes from a user in this very channel by the name of : ikonia
[12:43] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: you've just suggested he use a technology that's not available currently in the distro he's using and that isn't in production use by any real distros at this time
[12:44] <todd_> joel135: really?? let me check that? I did not see that in the man pages, or the info pages
[12:44] <ubuntufriend> who is this ikonia guy why is he booting me
[12:44] <ubuntufriend> what an asshole
[12:44] <ikonia> ubuntufriend: I did not tell you to recompile your kernel
[12:44] <ubuntufriend> you did
[12:44] <ikonia> ubuntufriend: I said you have to reboot if you need to compile your kernel