[19:22] <Hilikus> can someone tell me what are (if any) the differences between ubuntu one and dropbox
[19:22] <Slart> nibbler: ah.. I think I found something.. there is a "nth" module that lets you do stuff to every nth packet.. thanks for the inspiration =)
[19:22] <powertoo108> Anusien: Well, worse case scenario, your system is trashed, you have to use a live cd to backup /home to an external or something, then reinstall, giving /home its own partition, then move files from your backup. It would be a pain, but its a fixable situation without worries of data loss imo. Yes, you shouldn't have any problems mounting the drives.
[19:22] <nibbler> Hilikus: ubuntu one works bit betterwith some ubuntu apps, dropbox is better for different platforms
[19:22] <Slart> nibbler: there's also a "random" rule =)
[19:22] <nibbler> Slart: welcome
[19:23] <gerzel> system monitor says it is uninteruptable and -9 did not seem to render a change
[19:23] <Hilikus> nibbler: theres not unbuntu one windows client right
[19:23] <dasil003> Can someone suggest why sudo might not find a command even if it's in the PATH?  e.g. http://pastie.org/786952
[19:23] <karelm> Slart: well, as far as I understood, the alternate can install a "command-line system", which assumed is kinda like the minimal cd... except packages are already on the cd... I need to get my install working using my wireless card, so I was afraid the minimal cd wouldn't work...
[19:23] <nibbler> Hilikus: guess so, no idea. well and ubuntu one is a bit more open
[19:23] <daijoubu> Is it ok to use Ubuntu 9.04 instead of 9.10? Will i still get security updates ?
[19:23] <erUSUL> !9.04
[19:24] <gerzel> drive is just stuck spinning
[19:24] <guntbert> gerzel: uninterruptible means it is waiting on some i/o ... probably on the CD :-(
[19:24] <erUSUL> daijoubu: is normal release it will get updates for 18 months
[19:24] <Slart> karelm: hmm.. I'm  not so sure about that.. I'm pretty sure the desktop and alternate versions install the same systems.. apart from some smaller differences in the installer... then there's a server version which is command line only.. and desktop which is the regular ubuntu install
[19:24] <karelm> Slart: I was going to follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[19:24] <gerzel> oh well I gotta restart for updates anyway
[19:24] <erUSUL> !eol > daijoubu
[19:25] <karelm> Slart: It says "Disk space on an absolutely minimal installation can be reduced to as little as 600 MB". The xubuntu install is almost the full 3GB I have :p
[19:26] <Slart> karelm: yes.. there's a lot of stuff you can remove unless you actually need it.. things like GIMP or openoffice can use up lots of space
[19:27] <Slart> karelm: but 3 GB should be plenty for an empty system.. hang on.. I just installed 9.10 regular desktop version in a vm.. let me check how much disk space it uses
[19:27] <daijoubu> erUSUL, i just wanted to ask, because i can get all of my hardware to work under 9.04 but under 9.10 it's not possible, any idea what options do i have? Can i use 9.04 and hope for the best after it's dead?
[19:28] <Slart> karelm: that howto looked very dated.. as far as I can tell it's at least 2 years old
[19:28] <erUSUL> daijoubu: well; ideally you should try to make all hardware work in karmic (or sip karmic and try lucid)
[19:29] <karelm> Slart: mmm, well, guess I can always try and see where I end up :)
[19:29] <brontosaurusrex> well 9.04 seems surprisingly dead, lots of new stuff is just not packaged for it
[19:29] <daijoubu> erUSUL, i want tot ry Lucid but i can't get it to work with unetbootin and my usb stick, it doesn't make a bootable image on the usb, are there other tools for making Lucid install from USB sticks ?
[19:29] <Slart> karelm: in my vm, 9.10 64bit regular desktop version uses 2.3 GB fully installed
[19:29] <daijoubu> *try
[19:30] <erUSUL> daijoubu: i meant try lucid when it is out
[19:30] <Slart> karelm: openoffice alone probably uses 400MB+
[19:30] <daijoubu> erUSUL, ok thank you
[19:31] <karelm> Slart: yes, it's something like that, but once the system is running, with swap etc, there isn't much left
[19:31] <karelm> Slart: maybe I'll upgrade the harddrive soon :), I just got the system
[19:31] <Slart> karelm: nope.. but once you have the system up and running you can start deleting stuff..
[19:31] <CapitalistPig> i heard ubuntu is for newbs
[19:31] <CapitalistPig> what does that mean
[19:31] <guntbert> !ot | CapitalistPig
[19:32] <Slart> CapitalistPig: Ubuntu tries to be user friendly.. for a little wider interpretation of "user" than some other distros use
[19:32] <CAPcap> how do i install xmms?
[19:32] <karelm> Slart: yeah, that's what I've been doing so far, oh well, I'll see, thanks for the input ;)
[19:32] <jolaren> how do I install the gnome-desktop-enviroment to ubuntu minimal installation?
[19:32] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: Ubuntu is  the first distro for many Desktop Linux users, but expereinced  Desktop Linux users use it as well
[19:32] <Slart> karelm: you're welcome
[19:32] <karelm> Slart: btw, any idea which browser runs a little "light"? Opera seemed faster than Firefox, Chrome doesn't have a powerpc version (I think), ...
[19:33] <sebsebseb> karelm: try konqueror
[19:33] <phong_> hi guys, do u mind if u can tell me what are some of good things to use linux over windows ?
[19:33] <CapitalistPig> sebsebseb - but are ubuntu users not respected in the general linux community?
[19:33] <CapitalistPig> im just curious about the big picture
[19:33] <erUSUL> karelm: midori
[19:33] <phong_> i'm so noob to this....but would like to learn linux
[19:33] <Slart> karelm: try one of the "local" ones.. firefox without plugins can be light-ish..
[19:33] <Shazam> I'm on 9.04, the lastest version of eclipse in my repos is 3.2, and I need 3.3+ . Do I just have to install the .deb manually, or is there a way I can let apt handle it for me?
[19:33] <klappi> phong_: freedom
[19:33] <phong_> in what?
[19:34] <phong_> u're too broad
[19:34] <klappi> phong_: of choice
[19:34] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: well not all Desktop Linux users  like Ubuntu, but most don't have a problem with it as a distro, as far as I know
[19:34] <CapitalistPig> what do you mean by desktop linux? like you cant use ubuntu on a laptop?
[19:34] <phong_> captial haha
[19:34] <karelm> sebsebseb: Not sure if that will run so nicely on xfce, but I think I'll try :)
[19:34] <Shazam> CapitalistPig: as opposed to a server
[19:34] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: I mean that Ubuntu isn't the only distribution their are others that you can run on your PC
[19:34] <phong_> u're funny man
[19:35] <CapitalistPig> so laptop is also desktop ?
[19:35]  * jellow detects a troll
[19:35] <phong_> u're a troller
[19:35] <CapitalistPig> does ubuntu have multi-touch support?
[19:35] <karelm> erUSUL: I never heard of it but it looks nice :-), and webkit!
[19:35] <CapitalistPig> for new tablets
[19:35] <phong_> i think evtouch ?
[19:35] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: well no, but  people will count that as Desktop Linux or maybe mobile Linux
[19:35] <erUSUL> karelm: :)
[19:35] <CapitalistPig> multi-touch looks cool
[19:36] <erUSUL> karelm: also there is webkit version of epypahny the gnome browser
[19:36] <phong_> klappi: so tell me what do u like about linux ?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> he is probably some sort of troll really, but anyway :D   anyway CapitalistPig http://www.distrowatch.com
[19:36] <guntbert> !ot | phong_
[19:36] <nibbler> CapitalistPig: i think ubuntu is very good for newbies, but its not bad at all for pros alike....
[19:36] <erUSUL> !ot
[19:36] <jada> this has been fun, but going back to vista now, issuses with, torrentdownloading, flash, java, skype
[19:36] <karelm> erUSUL: Ok, thanks for the tip!
[19:37] <klappi> phong_: in 96 i first installed linux and liked the free compilers and software i could use
[19:37] <erUSUL> jada: ok; farewell
[19:37] <Roasted> how do I see what hardware is in the computer besides lspci? I thought I remember seeing a GUI tool similar to windows deivce manager
[19:37] <CapitalistPig> im worried about multi-touch not being supported
[19:37] <sebsebseb> jada: torrents uhmm
[19:37] <CapitalistPig> and is there 64bit linux?
[19:37] <Slart> jada: ok, enjoy! welcome back when/if you decide to try ubuntu again
[19:37] <CapitalistPig> 64bit ubuntu
[19:37] <jada> lol, never linux again
[19:37] <CapitalistPig> i mean
[19:37] <Shazam> can I use the Karmic repositories on Jaunty?
[19:37] <erUSUL> Roasted: you can install sysinfo or lshw-gtk
[19:37] <Slart> Shazam: it's never good to mix repositories
[19:38] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: of course
[19:38] <hagus_> I have a DVD with Mint on it.  I already have Ubuntu 9.10 installed.  Is Mint something that I should bother with?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: there is 64bit
[19:38] <erUSUL> Roasted: the later has a weird interface though
[19:38] <CapitalistPig> does ubuntu support all hardware of a new laptop
[19:38] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: as for touch screen hardare hrm, I guess it depends on the hardware if it works or not
[19:38] <Slart> hagus_: mint is a derivative of ubuntu.. many people think it's nice.. we don't support it here though
[19:38] <Guest74163> I tried Mint...just went back to Ubu
[19:38] <LuciusMare> vlc does not work for me, it does not output sound, otherwise it works, in kde i can successefully test the device, but testing ALSA does not work - any ideas?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: really depends on hardware,  wireless for example is a common problem area
[19:38] <hagus_> ty Slart  and guest :)
[19:39] <sebsebseb> !hardware | CapitalistPig
[19:39] <Roasted> erUSUL, I think sysinfo is what I used before... I thought I remember using something that was already installed though
[19:39] <Slart> CapitalistPig: some stuff works.. some works after some configuring.. some stuff doesn't work even after using harsh language and voodoo
[19:39] <CAPcap> please hoe can i install XMMS?
[19:39] <LucidGuy> Looking for a good IT helpdesk ticket tracking software.  Ideally linux open source with real support options.  Any recommendations.
[19:39] <Shazam> Slart: I figured as much. I'd like to get eclipse 3.3+ (has a plugin for GWT) but not available in 9.04, and I've had some problems with 9.10. Whats the best way for me to get at it?
[19:39] <Guest74163> sudo apt-get install xmms
[19:39] <hagus_> Is it mainly just a differently laid-out desktop ?
[19:39] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: sudo apt-get install xmms
[19:39] <erUSUL> !xmms | CAPcap
[19:39] <Guest74163> sudo apt-get install xmms2
[19:39] <CAPcap> well xmms2 really.
[19:39] <Guest74163> audacious is nice
[19:40] <sebsebseb> hagus_: mint is rather green, based on Ubuntu, and  a bit differnet, that's about it really
[19:40] <erUSUL> !software | CAPcap
[19:40] <sebsebseb> hagus_:  and you don't get mint support in here
[19:40] <Slart> Shazam: from what I've heard from other eclipse users installing from source is the way to go.. not sure if that's based on old information or just rumours though
[19:40] <hagus_> oh - I guess that I shall give it a miss then, sebsebseb  :)
[19:40] <CAPcap> sebsebseb should i do sudo apt-get install xmms2?
[19:40] <Guest74163> sudo apt-get install xmms2
[19:40] <Migs> CAPcap: Try it
[19:40] <Shazam> Slart: alrighty, thanks bro
[19:40] <ioka> guys
[19:40] <Slart> Shazam: you're welcome
[19:40] <raingrove> xmms2?
[19:40] <Slart> !info xmms2
[19:40] <ioka> how can I kill all my processes ?
[19:40] <raingrove> good to hear there are still people using it
[19:41] <Slart> ioka: slay
[19:41] <Shazam> ioka: reboot
[19:41] <raingrove> good ole winamp days:P
[19:41] <Guest74163> ioka - ALL processes?
[19:41] <ioka> yes
[19:41] <sebsebseb> ioka: you can use xkill and then click on graphical programs to close them
[19:41] <ioka> I m not a root
[19:41] <ioka> no gui
[19:41] <Guest74163> Can you reboot?
[19:41] <ioka> no i can not reboot
[19:41] <sebsebseb> Shazam: that's true, but also a bit of a silly thing to say as an answer
[19:41] <ioka> kill -9 all
[19:41] <sudhanshu> hi
[19:41] <Slart> !info slay | ioka
[19:41] <erUSUL> ioka: try « sudo pkill -U $USER » ?
[19:42] <bdelin88> Had a question about an issue I am facing... I am trying to use an ubuntu live cd to diagnose a windows issue at this time.  Currently the windows installation is corrupt and will not boot into the OS past the main loading screen... so I figured I would try and see if it was a hardware issue by using a linux live cd (and easily backup the files).  It turns out that the linux live cd runs fine until I try to copy files from the hard driv
[19:42] <grumbly> Help- i did something wrong and now i can't log in...  I have the error checkpassword: wrong password- I'm running 9.04
[19:42] <ioka> I m not a root
[19:42] <sebsebseb> grumbly: ok that's easy enough to re set the password
[19:42] <grumbly> I also can't seem to get into single user mode
[19:42] <erUSUL> ioka: drop the sudo
[19:42] <sudhanshu> hi
[19:42] <Guest74163> bfelin88 - SOunds like a failed hd
[19:42] <nibbler> bdelin88: well.... bad harddrive then
[19:42] <CapitalistPig> hm, so if i have a laptop that has a volume control for example, its a little dial and it is very convenient, will that work on ubuntu?
[19:42] <sebsebseb> grumbly: you want to set a new password?
[19:42] <erUSUL> bdelin88: so it is the hard drive the one that died?
[19:42] <bdelin88> that's what i was thinking hmm...
[19:42] <erUSUL> bdelin88: bad :(
[19:43] <grumbly> sebsebseb: I never set one to begin with.
[19:43] <nibbler> CapitalistPig: boot a livecd and see for yourself
[19:43] <raingrove> is slart a bot
[19:43] <sebsebseb> grumbly: uh?
[19:43] <sebsebseb> grumbly: you should have an account password
[19:43] <bdelin88> erUSUL: i do not know...I just know it has trouble when using it, although I can still index the files
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> hagus_: mint is ubuntu with some makeup basically
[19:43] <erUSUL> raingrove: but of course
[19:43] <ioka> Is there a way to kill all my processes without the ability to see their job ids and numbers
[19:43] <grumbly> sebsebseb: I do
[19:43] <sebsebseb> grumbly: and that has letters and numbers at least
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> hagus_: and with some non-free installs
[19:43] <Slart> raingrove: not that I've noticed.. ehm.. but would I really know if I was one?
[19:43] <LuciusMare> ioka: pkill
[19:43] <bdelin88> Additionally though, I do not understand, if running off a live cd, why would UBUNTU crash?
[19:43] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: probably
[19:43] <grumbly> sebsebseb: I do.  But it's just a standard user (with sudoers)
[19:43] <bdelin88> ...if it is indeed a HD issue
[19:43] <Guest74163> Ubuntu is easier to find documentation and help for than Mint, IMHO
[19:43] <troublescoot> i've been to the mountains of #httpd and fought my way through the valleys of #bind and #dns, only to wind up here at the gates of #ubuntu. they say you can help me.
[19:43] <Anusien> WEll got frustrated and did an REISUB reboot.  Now I'm just waiting to see what it comes up like
[19:44] <ioka> only pkill LuciusMare
[19:44] <raingrove> erUSUL: he's a dude?
[19:44] <LuciusMare> vlc does not work for me, it does not output sound, aside from that sounds works correctly, in kde i can successefully test the device, but testing ALSA does not work - any ideas?
[19:44] <Guest74163> Live CD runs from optical drive and ram only
[19:44] <hagus_> brontosaurusrex, ah - thanks for explaining that to me. I wondered why they had bothered to produce an alternative of the same thing.  Now I understand.
[19:44] <raingrove> Slart: have you become self aware?
[19:44] <Anusien> troublescoot: Did you remember to dump your troublesome logfiles in the volcano among the mountains of #httpd?
[19:44] <brontosaurusrex> Guest74163: nope, whatever goes for ubuntu, goes for mint as well
[19:44] <Guest74163> Live Cd will run without a hd at all
[19:44] <erUSUL> Slart: do not lie to us... you allways fail the turing test XXDD
[19:44] <CapitalistPig> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download <--- why is there no 64bit download link?
[19:44] <Slart> erUSUL: that was one time.. and there was whiskey involved
[19:44] <bdelin88> Guest74163: yes, that's what I thought... so this leads me to believe it is not the hard drive... but it seems to occur only when the HD is in use
[19:44] <grumbly> sebsebseb: I get to a login prompt... but... well... it no login!
[19:44] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: there is you have to select the 64bit option on the page though probably
[19:45] <ioka> pkill does not help
[19:45] <troublescoot> Anusien: i dumped log files, dig outputs and much more
[19:45] <raingrove> Slart: what is tw0 tim3s f|v3?
[19:45] <Slart> raingrove: well.. at some point I guess I must have..
[19:45] <ioka> I get no more proccesse
[19:45] <troublescoot> for this is an issue of DNS/Apache proportions
[19:45] <sebsebseb> grumbly: well you can  open up recovery mode from Grub,  and  get the root terminal and then  passwd username to change the password
[19:45] <Guest74163> bdelin88 - Live Cd will run without a hd at all
[19:45] <Slart> raingrove: a very s177y qe5t10n
[19:45] <grumbly> sebsebseb: how? i'm trying but it keeps dropping me into a tty
[19:45] <Guest74163> It fails when you try to access the hd, correct/
[19:46] <Guest74163> ?
[19:46] <erUSUL> CapitalistPig: clieck on -->  |>Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for Windows
[19:46] <raingrove> roflcopter
[19:46] <bdelin88> Guest74163: yes it seems
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> hagus_: i have jaunty mint running here for a while, but now it doesnt look anything like plain mint or plain ubuntu anymore, so it really doesnt matter where you start, mint could be a bit easier for noobs i belive
[19:46] <Guest74163> Then it is the hd :(
[19:46] <bdelin88> Guest74163: is there any sort of hardware probing device/software for linux to diagnose issuse?
[19:46] <bdelin88> Guest74163: yes, but why would it cause the live cd to crash?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> Shazam: let's reply to your pm here,  good point,  if wanting to kill everything including the kernel,  re boot or shut down yes.   if wanting to kill  standard running programs such as a browser or something like that, there are other ways
[19:47] <erUSUL> bdelin88: the kernel is the best tester... see the logs /var/log/messages
[19:47] <Guest74163> try smartmontools, I think
[19:47] <CapitalistPig> coool well i will try it then
[19:47] <CapitalistPig> see what all this ubuntu is about
[19:47] <Anusien> Woohoo, I have a working machine! Whether or not I want to resume `dpkg --configure -a` I don't know
[19:47] <erUSUL> bdelin88: but if it freezes accessing the harddisk then you have a huge clue
[19:47] <bdelin88> erUSUL: i don't know how to use that if the live cd freezes though, bc the logs will be discarded when i have to shut off the power
[19:47] <CapitalistPig> what about microsoft office does that run on ubuntu?
[19:47] <Guest74163> Actually, /var/log/messages is right.
[19:47] <Guest74163> Open Office kicks M$
[19:48] <jrib> CapitalistPig: you can use open office as an alternative or look into crossover office
[19:48] <brontosaurusrex> CapitalistPig: good nick
[19:48] <jellow> CapitalistPig: yes , In wine
[19:48] <erUSUL> bdelin88: open a terminal do « tailf /var/log/messages » try to crash the livecd. see what is written
[19:48] <bdelin88> erUSUL: yes, i just kind o ffigured that linux was a little stronger than that, especially the livecd, i thought since it did not run off the live cd that it would continue to run just find and maybe just unmount or display an error
[19:48] <ozzloy> CapitalistPig, are you a troll?
[19:48] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: which version of Office do you watn to run?  there are good alternatives, and ways you can run  Microsoft Office,  Crossover Office is one way, but that program is paid thing,  Wine on the other hand is free
[19:48] <CapitalistPig> can i edit a powerpoint and save it as a powerpoint?
[19:48] <CapitalistPig> for example?
[19:48] <ioka> if I type kill -9 irssi I get arguments should be jobs or process id's  .How can I hind out the job?
[19:48] <bdelin88> erUSUL: nothing will be written though bc it is a cd...i have to restart because it freezes, thus discarding the log file, correct?
[19:48] <erUSUL> CapitalistPig: yes
[19:48] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: Yes. I've been MS OFfice free for several years now
[19:48] <CapitalistPig> without actually having microsoft office for linux?
[19:48] <grumbly> sebsebseb: I've tried adding single, removing quiet, but it just gives me a login prompt
[19:48] <jrib> ioka: use pkill instead if you want to do it by process name
[19:48] <Guest74163> ps aux or ps -C irssi
[19:49] <CapitalistPig> Anusien - but do you successfully collaborate with others in Word / Powerpoint?
[19:49] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: You mean sharing doucments or what?
[19:49] <sebsebseb> ozzloy: they might be,  espesailly with that name, but  even if they are, well they are going through new user  type questions, which could be useful to have answered for other people as well
[19:49] <ioka> jrib: pkill does not work I get : no more processes
[19:49] <grumbly> then, if i wait a few minutes, it says "Activating Swap"... at the login prompt... but even waiting 40 mins, i still get no love.
[19:49] <CapitalistPig> Anusien - i mean editing the same documents without having any conversion issues
[19:49] <CapitalistPig> i want smooth workflow
[19:49] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: Are you on Windows now?
[19:49] <Guest74163> ioka - ps -C irssi to find pid for irssi
[19:49] <CapitalistPig> Anusien - 7
[19:49] <jrib> ioka: surely pkill works.  See man page for proper syntax perhaps?
[19:49] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: it's not 100% compatible with newer features and things like macros and stuff...so if you're an office power user I wouldn't rely on it
[19:49] <ozzloy> sebsebseb, true.  i guess it hasn't gotten too crazy
[19:49] <hotgirl19> Hello, how to share internet connection from pppoe , to the network LAN crossover eth0 , like wlan0<==>pppoe to eth0?
[19:49]  * ozzloy goes to lunch
[19:49] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - damn, seirously?
[19:49] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: Try this. Go download OpenOffice for Windows, and see if you can use it without any issues. If you run into issues, you know. If you don't, you also know
[19:50] <CapitalistPig> thats almost a deal breaker for me :(
[19:50] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: are you an office power user?
[19:50] <Anusien> That way if you later switch to Ubuntu, you're familiar with the major tools already
[19:50] <erUSUL> !ics | hotgirl19
[19:50] <grumbly> sebsebseb: Is there any way from grub to bypass my init all together
[19:50] <ioka> I can not use ps I get : no more processes
[19:50] <phong_> do u mind if i can sing?
[19:50] <jellow> CapitalistPig: perhaps ubuntu is not right for you.
[19:50] <jrib> !topic | phong_
[19:50] <Guest74163> ioka  what does top output?
[19:50] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - i dont know what the threshold is for being considered a power user, so i cant say, i do use a lot of features for document ediitng and stuff
[19:50] <bdelin88> jellow: well not so fast...
[19:50] <CapitalistPig> and have to prepare professional contracts and documents
[19:50] <ioka> what top output
[19:50] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: with enough RAM you can run most Windows  programs in a Windows virtual machine, and rather well indeed
[19:50] <CapitalistPig> jellow - :(
[19:50] <brontosaurusrex> CapitalistPig: if they want to colaborate, they can all install openoffice
[19:50] <jrib> CapitalistPig: move on from office...
[19:51] <erUSUL> CapitalistPig: you can try openoffice in windows for a while and see if it feets your needs
[19:51] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: Download Open Office on your windows machine, and see if it works for you. You can run the two side by side just fine (just don't open the same document in both at once!)
[19:51] <ioka> whatever I try to execute I get "no more processes " as a answer
[19:51] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: yea of course... pleanty of those kinds of things, but i am saying not enterprise level stuff that is set up or designed a certain way to work in office '07+
[19:51] <erUSUL> CapitalistPig: *fit*
[19:51] <CapitalistPig> brontosaurusrex - see i cant tell people to install things to read my documents
[19:51] <BluesKaj> CapitalistPig, with a nick like that most ppl wouod think you're a Bill Gates fan :)
[19:51] <hotgirl19> erUSUL, i tried them, but it didnt work :(
[19:51] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: you can save in the Microsoft formats using Open Office, and open them as well
[19:51] <maco> CapitalistPig: OOo can save as .doc...
[19:51] <CapitalistPig> yea im a huge bill gates fan, hes an excellent businessman
[19:51] <Anusien> *peer* Why is it taking my machine several minutes to "Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation..."?
[19:51] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: you can also create a vmware solution and have a windows install right inside linux and run it seamlessly.  The other thing is using wine to install office 2003 or 07
[19:51] <maco> CapitalistPig: you can set it as the default through the tools menu
[19:51]  * Ov3rf10w brb
[19:51] <brontosaurusrex> CapitalistPig: it goes the other way as well, when i get mails with doc or god no docx attachements they go to trash
[19:51] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: maybe you did not get the interfaces right. pppoe uses ppp0
[19:51] <CapitalistPig> sebner - ah okay
[19:52] <CapitalistPig> sebsebseb rahter
[19:52] <CapitalistPig> but i want to start coding more
[19:52] <Guest74163> I am requested to use docx for school. I always submit doc
[19:52] <CapitalistPig> so i want to get on linux
[19:52] <bja> you could probably do that on windows if you really wanted to
[19:52] <CapitalistPig> more often
[19:52] <hotgirl19> erUSUL, yes it is use ppp0 , how to share it?
[19:52] <Anusien> That doesn't require Linux though, but it's a goo didea :)
[19:52] <grumbly> Does anyone know any way from grub to bypass init?
[19:52] <Slart> Guest74163: requested? that's insane? pdf isn't good enough?
[19:52] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: some  Microsoft format documents won't display properly in Open Office, but most will.   you can even run those  free  Microsoft Word document viewers and such in Wine
[19:52] <bja> CapitalistPig, you could install Ubuntu in VirtualBox or VirtualPC
[19:52] <CapitalistPig> u know anusien, but i want to be like a man's man in a computer sense
[19:53] <CapitalistPig> to understand things inside and out
[19:53] <Guest74163> CapitalistPig I run Xp in VirtualBox and never boot into Windows anymore
[19:53] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: what method did you tried ? the iptables one?
[19:53] <bja> as long as you have a relatively new PC with about 2GB of ram or more you'll be fine
[19:53] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: :)
[19:53] <CapitalistPig> Guest21816 - virtualbox = ?
[19:53] <bja> virtualbox.org
[19:53] <Guest74163> Man yes!
[19:53] <bja> it's a free virtual machine
[19:53] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: in that case the example form the wiki this line « sudo iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT
[19:53] <Anusien> Solutions that require virtual machines are probably not going to be worthwhile solutions for first time linux users
[19:53] <hotgirl19> erUSUL, i used Firestarter
[19:54] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: is sudo iptables -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o eth0 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT
[19:54] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: yes vbox is great
[19:54] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: Do you know what Wine is?  and no not the drink :D
[19:54] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: ammm ok
[19:54] <hotgirl19> erUSUL, i will do this in terminal now
[19:54] <jellow> !wine | CapitalistPig
[19:54] <grumbly> nevermind, I got it
[19:54] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: i also do not recommend using linux if you have any special devices u use... blackberry phones, or iphone that you wish to sync, etc.
[19:54] <bdelin88> ipods work just fine
[19:54] <Anusien> Do iPhones?
[19:55] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - shit i totally forgot about that
[19:55] <CapitalistPig> i have a Nokia that i sync
[19:55] <CapitalistPig> calendar only -- (i use gmail so its all web-based no sync needed)
[19:55] <CapitalistPig> and contacts
[19:55] <Anusien> I haven't tried getting my iphone to sync on my server yet
[19:55] <nvme> whats the md5sum command for files that doesnt include the trailing \n ?
[19:55] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: most  Ubuntu users dual boot with WIndows
[19:55] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: no need; if you are using firestarter stick to it
[19:55] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: or so it seems anyway
[19:55] <frostburn> nvme, what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:55] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: well you will be giving that up
[19:56] <nvme> frostburn, just want to md5sum a file :P
[19:56] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: you can vbox it, but i just would rather use windows.
[19:56] <frostburn> nvme, md5sum filemname
[19:56] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: you can have your current Windows install,  and then put Ubuntu on as well on a dual boot, and then select which one to boot up when the computer is turned on or re booted
[19:56] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: and one of them will automatically boot
[19:56] <azo> re
[19:56] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: You might find it's more useful to start with Cygwin
[19:56] <CapitalistPig> sebsebseb - yea :/
[19:56] <sebsebseb> Anusien: cygwin hrm
[19:56] <nvme> frostburn, i remember there is some issue with that and trailing endlines or something
[19:57] <CapitalistPig> cygwin sucks
[19:57] <CapitalistPig> and i am a linux user
[19:57] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: tried the one described in the wiki under Ubuntu 9.10 Method ?? seems the easier one
[19:57] <sebsebseb> Anusien: interesting software I know, but  not something I would recommend to someone who is new to this kind of software
[19:57] <CapitalistPig> i used to use mandrake, then slackware
[19:57] <hotgirl19> erUSUL, thank you :)
[19:57] <Anusien> Cygwin is more complicated you think than dual boots and virtual machines?
[19:57] <frostburn> nvme, not that i'm aware of
[19:57] <brontosaurusrex> CapitalistPig: use virtualbox
[19:57] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: I have come to a point where I have a great appreciation for the linux community and OS'.  However, I cannot use it for the desktop, that is just for me.  I am a windows power user and I know how to do what I need, I have been running for 4+ years without virus protection just fine.  I use linux for my server, etc, but I just can't make the switch, and you need to decide why exactly you are trying to make this switch, bec
[19:57] <CapitalistPig> ill just dual boot
[19:57] <sebsebseb> Anusien: it's a  shell,  that runs command line apps, and such, last time I used it
[19:58] <Anusien> sebsebseb: It's even less than that, but it has a shell, yeah
[19:58] <sebsebseb> Anusien: it doesn't just run Firefox or  that kind of software
[19:58] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: Make sure you backup and read a good guide very carefully.  Dual booting can be difficult because windows is twitchy
[19:58] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - my main reason is to just be more involved, learn more coding
[19:58] <CapitalistPig> and i think linux is a good enviro to be in for that
[19:58] <Anusien> sebsebseb: Well of course not, because Cygwin runs under Windows
[19:58] <sebsebseb> Audible: cygwin is really for geeks, not  the "average computer user"
[19:58] <CapitalistPig> i mean mainly ill just be surfing, mail, and light office -- and media
[19:58] <Anusien> rofl
[19:58] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: here is what i recommend then...
[19:58] <sebsebseb> Anusien: thought you would put that
[19:58] <Leoneof`> hi
[19:59] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: why not run vbox on windows and box into a linux system :)
[19:59] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: it makes more sense...
[19:59] <Anusien> It's a biiiiig leap?
[19:59] <CapitalistPig> than dualbooting?
[19:59] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: first you need to find out what hardware works really
[19:59] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: that's what I live CD is about
[19:59] <Anusien> sebsebseb: Cygwin is a compatibilty DLL that lets you run compile linux applications for Windows
[19:59] <CapitalistPig> whats live cd
[19:59] <Leoneof`> hey erUSUL
[19:59] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: yea... why lose all your work and have to restart just to switch from one thing to another
[19:59] <bja> Anusien, I don't see what's so complicated about a virtual machine
[19:59] <erUSUL> Leoneof`: hi
[19:59] <Anusien> bja: How experienced are you with them?
[19:59] <bja> it's how I use windows and how I build software for several servers
[20:00] <bja> as far as I can tell, it involved clicking a couple times
[20:00] <bja> then downloading an iso
[20:00] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - it just seems....stupid to run linux in a little program to do the things i could be doing in the system that im running that program in...
[20:00] <bja> then clicking some more
[20:00] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: it's also the install CD, but  there's a live session on it, which is proper Ubuntu really, which is  Ubuntu from a CD
[20:00] <CapitalistPig> sebsebseb - how do i run the livecd to test my hardware compatability?
[20:00] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: was going to remove the proper Ubuntu bit,  if things work on a Live CD  they useually work in an install.   the live cd session is rather similar to a proper install of Ubuntu, just will be a bit slower since it's running from a CD
[20:00] <CapitalistPig> sebsebseb - download link?
[20:01] <bja> CapitalistPig, do you know how to select a boot device with your bios?
[20:01] <Anusien> bja: Speaking as someone who lives on UNIX for several hours a day at work and run my own HTTP/SSH/SFTP server, starting over with linux and running windows inside as a VM is a huuuuuuge jump
[20:01] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: it's your choice but if you want to restart every time just get back into your business system (i.e. if you use outlook, etc.. and stuff.. then it's a pain in the ass to go back and forth)... if you need to sync your phone, you will have to restart, think about it first is all i'm saying
[20:01] <CapitalistPig> bja - dude im not a computer noob
[20:01] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: I think these other people nearly confussed you,  oh you can  virtual machine Windows, oh  you can dual boot (ok that was me),   oh  you can do this cygwin thingey program.   Really all you want right now is an Ubuntu Live CD
[20:01] <brontosaurusrex> bja: yes, but you wont enjoy watching hd  movies in linux in a box
[20:01] <bja> Anusien, I suggested running virtualbox from windows and installing ubuntu in it
[20:01] <isolat3dsh33p> I don't really get, what's the meaning of the warning "You are about to install software that can't be authenticated". "wget" is listed in the updates that can't be authenticated. Should I just install the updates?
[20:01] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - nah i dont do outlook, i know enough to avoid getting caught in that trap
[20:01] <bja> brontosaurusrex, I don't do that anyway
[20:01] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: also to dual boot you would use that Live CD if you want to do that
[20:01] <Anusien> Ah, I may have missed that
[20:02] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - i have TONS of friends who are miserable because their stuff is stuck in Outlook and its too dificult to mess with
[20:02] <erUSUL> !gpgerr | isolat3dsh33p
[20:02] <CapitalistPig> and they just use it because they are in quick sand
[20:02] <bja> CapitalistPig, you just need to reboot into the livecd after you burn the ISO. make sure that your machine is booting from CD/DVD then it will start up automatically
[20:02] <denny> will Lucid hold on Xorg 1.6.x, or might it bump up to 1.7.x before it ships?
[20:02] <denny> I need 1.7.x for my dual-card setup
[20:03] <denny> I'm worried that Lucid will probably hang back though, being a LTS
[20:03] <CapitalistPig> bj0rn2 - is there supposed to be a different livecd download though?
[20:03] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, it's an GPG error? But wget is listed as well. And it's just a warning. :(
[20:03] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: well all i'm saying is think about it... to me it sounds like you are just wanting to use linux just to use linux... and all the nice effects and everything, it's not a good enough reason, personally for me, to dual boot, but go for it
[20:03] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: oh right Outlook well  Codeweavers is meant to be the best for Office 2007,  however Wine  after a bit of configuring is good as well or something like that.   You can  think more about that kind of stuff later,  first you  should try Ubuntu from a Live CD.
[20:03] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - i appreciate it, i think youre right
[20:03] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: download the ISO from the Ubuntu website  for 9.10
[20:03] <erUSUL> isolat3dsh33p: well it is weird that the updates repos lack the gpg key. but could be
[20:04] <bja> Anusien, why aren't you in #tmd?
[20:04] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu | CapitalistPig
[20:04] <CapitalistPig> ?
[20:04] <RocketLauncher> What are you doing here
[20:04] <CapitalistPig> is the ubuntu download the same as live cd?
[20:04] <CapitalistPig> or is it separate?
[20:04] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: go to the website and download Ubuntu
[20:04] <erUSUL> CapitalistPig: is the same
[20:04] <bbong> I've installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my Acer Asphire One Netbook (Intel Core 2 Solo), works great, but once I do an online upgrade after install, and reboot the system is dead, I get  cmov/libm.so.6: Invalid ELF Header
[20:04] <trism> !info xorg lucid | denny, looks like 1.7.5 to me
[20:04] <CapitalistPig> yea its 166mb in
[20:04] <CapitalistPig> almost done
[20:04] <phong_> Capitalistpig.. why dont u blow up ur pc
[20:04] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: that doesn't sound right it will be nearly 700MB
[20:05] <CapitalistPig> phong_ - because i have too much porn
[20:05] <phong_> captitalistpig, just think of your pc power cable wire as a d*ck and suck it...go download and stop asking the same question.
[20:05] <denny> trism: oh that's weird, I could have sworn alpha1 had 1.6.4 or so - thanks!
[20:05] <Anusien> bja: :)
[20:06] <Slart> !coc | phong_
[20:06]  * denny considers giving alpha2 a run
[20:06] <Slart> !etiquette | phong_
[20:06] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, in the Change tab, there's a message "This change is not coming from a source that supports changelogs". I should trusts these updates?
[20:06] <CapitalistPig> phong_ - rage much?
[20:06] <phong_> bye
[20:07] <sebsebseb> !lucid | denny trism
[20:07] <erUSUL> isolat3dsh33p: really dunno; looks suspicious. i did not get a wget update this days (karmic 9.10)
[20:08] <denny> sebsebseb: oh, okay.  Sorry.
[20:09] <jellow> does anyone know any mips architecture emulators ?
[20:09] <sebsebseb> trism: didn't know could get the lucid  repo info in here though, so :)
[20:09] <jellow> !mips | jrib
[20:09] <erUSUL> jellow: there are a few iirc
[20:09] <jellow> sorry jrib
[20:10] <Skeptic> is there a way to make a live usb and add grub to the mbr of the live usb?
[20:10] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: before burning the contents of your ISO to CD, it's a good idea to check you have a good download by the way
[20:10] <erUSUL> jellow: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Emulators
[20:10] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | CapitalistPig
[20:10] <jellow> erUSUL: Thanks.
[20:10] <Daemonis> Does anyone know if the Radeon x1250m is going to get proprietary drivers in 9.1? Right now all It gives me is a third party driver and that's no 3d acceleration.
[20:11] <Daemonis> Open source driver, I should say.
[20:11] <erUSUL> Daemonis: not likely
[20:11] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, it's several days ago, probably on Monday or Tuesday. I did add a new repo for wireshark on Monday. Maybe it came from that. If I remove it from the repo and the updates comes from that, the updates should disappear right?
[20:11] <erUSUL> isolat3dsh33p: yes
[20:11] <dnajovo> if i want to dualboot ubuntu and fedora core what mount points at each filesystem should i use?also the space that my data will go should i mount it as home?and if i do?both ubuntu and fedora will use the same home?
[20:11] <Daemonis> That's not very ubuntu like. I know it's older hardware... but it's not like it's that old... and this is a laptop so upgrading the graphics chip isn't an option.
[20:12] <dnajovo> if anyone has an idea please help cause i am at the partitioner menu already at my desktop pc
[20:12] <Daemonis> I'd hate to have to go back to windows just because I can't get a decent graphics driver :(
[20:12] <trism> sebsebseb: yeah you can get anything back to hardy, comes in handy occasionally
[20:13] <dnajovo> anyone?????????????????????????
[20:13] <sebsebseb> dnajovo: instaling Ubuntu for the first time?
[20:13] <dnajovo> no
[20:13] <dnajovo> but i want to tripleboot actually win7 ubuntu and fedora
[20:13] <Slart> dnajovo: this is only my personal preference.. but I wouldn't use the same /home folder.. I would create a something like ~/mystuff and mount that on both system but keep the rest of /home dedicated for each system
[20:13] <dnajovo> i have successfully dualbooted
[20:13] <dnajovo> but tripleboot i try it for the first time
[20:13] <Slart> dnajovo: and please don't start with the million question marks.. you'll only get ignored
[20:14] <dnajovo> ok
[20:14] <Daemonis> Heh. I guess I'll just be stuck using 8.1
[20:14] <sebsebseb> dnajovo: oh yeah your the Fedora one,  I  wasn't going to reply to you since   well  you might get Grub 2 issue and uh and  distros fighting over home maybe
[20:14] <sebsebseb> dnajovo: and I am not really the person to help with both of those things
[20:15] <ben2000677> hello
[20:15] <pilif12p> can i install a deb file via ssh?
[20:15] <dnajovo> sebsebseb,  i'm not a specific type i just want to know whick is the best way of mounting my partitons i can trible boot but i want your help to do it correctly
[20:15] <erUSUL> pilif12p: dpkg -i file.deb
[20:15] <Slart> pilif12p: try gdebi
[20:15] <pilif12p> ah
[20:15] <Slart> pilif12p: well.. or dpkg
[20:15] <dnajovo> and i thought that poweruser opensource guys don't have grudges with other distros
[20:15] <dnajovo> as for the boot manager i'll keep grub2 from ubuntu
[20:15] <noXandOs> Hey guys I think I need help. I am trying to share a Drive from another PC running Ubuntu. I thought i set up Samba correctly but I cant see the drive, just the puter.
[20:16] <sebsebseb> djamel: poweruser uhmm not exactly, there's a lot I don't know
[20:16] <sebsebseb> djamel: also I am on another distro right now :)
[20:16] <Slart> dnajovo: we don't have any grudges.. both are nice distros
[20:16] <dnajovo> sebsebseb,  i'm relatively new to linux and usually i google anything i wanna know
[20:16] <linuxprobie> Hey folks, just got my UNR liveboot pendrive working and I was wondering if there's a simple way to disable the ubuntu autologin without having to rebuild the whole live cd (which is a logn and complicated process that I am not confident in achieveing successfully)
[20:17] <dnajovo> but now i am at the middle of the installation thats why im asking for your help!
[20:17] <assmonger> how i can i list all shared memory regions?
[20:17] <sebsebseb> djamel: your question is a bit more general really I think, you could try ##linux as well
[20:17] <bbong> I've installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my Acer Asphire One Netbook (Intel Core 2 Solo), works great, but once I do an online upgrade after install, and reboot the system is dead, I get  cmov/libm.so.6: Invalid ELF Header
[20:17] <sebsebseb> djamel: I don't understand, you want help setting up Ubuntu partitions or what?
[20:17] <domito_> assmonger: ipcs
[20:17] <dnajovo> anyway thanx for the help
[20:17] <dnajovo> i'll google some more
[20:17] <ben2000677> Hi all, I need to ask a very common question (I have googled but there are too many answers to this): I am turning to Linux and want to know the most recommended netbook that's fit for ubuntu
[20:17] <technicallyrite> Is there an #ubuntuserver channel on freenode?
[20:17] <sebsebseb> ben2000677: not sure if this mentions netbooks at all, but well
[20:18] <linuxprobie> ben2000677: try ubuntu netbook remix
[20:18] <domito_> technicallyrite: #ubuntu-server
[20:18] <sebsebseb> !hardware | ben2000677
[20:18] <Slart> assmonger: there's nothing in "vmstat" ?
[20:18] <kyle6513> hello again everyone
[20:18] <domito_> netbook remix is nice, wife isusing it on her Acer aspire one
[20:18] <assmonger> domito_: does shared memory get automatically freed when the calling process is killed?
[20:18] <kyle6513> domito_, isnt it buggy?
[20:18] <genii> ben2000677: I put it on an Asus Eeepc 1005HA, runs great on that
[20:18] <domito_> assmonger: depends on the app and if it cleans up properly
[20:18] <linuxprobie> I have it set up on a pen drive, but I need to disable the liveboot autologin
[20:19] <domito_> you can use ipcrm to remove them by force
[20:19] <ben2000677> yes I plan on getting the netbook remix so I hear acer and maybe dell are good akes to ook at
[20:19] <kyle6513> genii, what did?
[20:19] <technicallyrite> domito_: thanks!
[20:19] <gabe> hi
[20:19] <assmonger> domito_: ipcrm, thanks!
[20:19] <sebsebseb> gabe: hi
[20:19] <genii> kyle6513: Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[20:19] <sebsebseb> to late they left already
[20:19] <ben2000677> I'm more worried about keyboard size whilst keeping it like 8.9inches
[20:19] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, yes, it's from the Wireshark/Ethereal repo. Thanks for helping :)
[20:19] <erUSUL> isolat3dsh33p: no problem
[20:19] <isolat3dsh33p> :)
[20:19] <kyle6513> genii, its buggy for me on my 1000H =/
[20:20] <domito_> ben2000677: the kybd size on the aspire is ok if you have small hands, I hate it.  The worst is the touchpad because the buttons are flush with the chassis and hard to press ... get a wireless mouse
[20:21] <kyle6513> domito_, try an asus eeepc 1000H, it has a 10" screen with a 6 hour battery if you are just listening to music, it works great with ubuntu!
[20:21] <ben2000677> domito_: so is there any like bigger versions
[20:22] <linuxprobie> netbooks aren't meant for big
[20:22] <ben2000677> so im guessing Acer is the make of choice it only really comes down to specs when choosing
[20:22] <kyle6513> linuxprobie, depends on what you want to be using it for...
[20:23] <linuxprobie> they're meant for extremely portable and just powerful enough to get netsurfing, wordprocessing and messaging
[20:23] <kyle6513> ben2000677, what are the specs of the acer you're looking at
[20:23] <linuxprobie> hence NETbook
[20:23] <ben2000677> sorry i mean Asus
[20:23] <kyle6513> ben2000677, yeah asus has done great things, even putting linux on it by default
[20:23] <muunleit_> Hey. If I get a message in Empathy, the TrayIcon changes to the symbol for "symbol not found". Is there a way how I can fix this? I have found now new_message-icon in /usr/share/empathy
[20:23] <ben2000677> well that;'s the thing, will I need more than 1gb of RAM for just coding
[20:24] <ben2000677> how does Linux specs compare to windows, surely they don't need to be as powerful
[20:24] <Slart> ben2000677: linux is very customizable.. it can be even worse than windows.. or much lighter..
[20:25] <imMute> ben2000677: linux can run on 16MB of ram (in embedded situations)
[20:25] <ben2000677> Slart: yes, I've seen that ubuntu is like 1 out of loads of different variants
[20:25] <Kraln> imMute: less than that
[20:25] <sirMajid> hey all, how can I set an alias for one address in my hard disk?
[20:25] <[criipt]> How do i edit gtk fonts?
[20:26] <RanyAlbeg> hi guys , im on a DELL inspiron 1555 . the system wont start after last update
[20:26] <ben2000677> If I got a netbook with Ubuntu, and after getting the hang of linux, wanted to change to Backtrack or LFS, is that a simple task?
[20:26] <RanyAlbeg> i cant even start a terminal to exec fsck or something.
[20:27] <jacquesdupontd> hi everybody
[20:27] <jacquesdupontd> i've got a problem trying to connect a usb device
[20:27] <jacquesdupontd> usb 2-1.4: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd loadibec rqt 33 rq 1 len 4096 ret -110
[20:27] <RanyAlbeg> any idea?someone?
[20:28] <Anusien> woo
[20:28] <jacquesdupontd> someone could explain me why i have this error ?
[20:28] <Anusien> My machine works, thanks!
[20:28] <linuxprobie> RanyAlbeg: i wish I could, but most of the people in this room have forgotten more than I know about linux
[20:29] <ben2000677> If I got a netbook with Ubuntu and changed to a different variant of linux, is that very do-able?
[20:29] <inManix> i am livid
[20:29] <linuxprobie> ben2000677: as far as I know, you'd just reinstall your os like any time you change
[20:30] <inManix> after all my formatting, xp install skipped a dll....can i format and reinstall XP after ubuntu?
[20:30] <ben2000677> linuxprobie: does that include variants like LFS?
[20:30] <martinovich> je cherche un logiciel de traitement d'image pour ubuntu 9.10
[20:30] <inManix> ICFGNT.DLL i hate you
[20:30] <linuxprobie> ben2000677: you can install any os you want. just as if you were installing xp instead of 98, you'd just have to start with a clean install
[20:31] <[criipt]> How do I change gtk font settings?
[20:31] <erUSUL> !fr | martinovich
[20:31] <ben2000677> ok thanks very much all
[20:31] <linuxprobie> inManix: try doing a repair of your windows installation with your windows disk
[20:31] <inManix> will do
[20:31] <jellow> !gimp martinovich:
[20:31] <martinovich> sorry, Iam looking for an image software any good suggestion?
[20:32] <jellow> martinovich: il y a plusieurs , gimp , inkscape
[20:32] <RanyAlbeg> linuxprobie: problem is that when i start up the machine , every key press makes it stuck . and i cant proceed from that point but to shut it down and restart.
[20:32] <erUSUL> martinovich: photo editor as in photoshop?
[20:32] <martinovich> simple photo editor
[20:33] <linuxprobie> !gimp martinovich
[20:33] <linuxprobie> >.<
[20:33] <Like> hi
[20:33] <erUSUL> martinovich: is either gimp or the limited editing options photo managers such as gthumb offer
[20:33] <linuxprobie> try gimp
[20:33] <Like> !@lart
[20:33] <martinovich> ok thank you
[20:33] <technicallyrite> gimp is not a photo manager
[20:34] <Like> help i dont know the driver disapear X-fi!!
[20:34] <technicallyrite> gimp is an image editing application
[20:34] <linkd> gimp is a dirty dirty boy
[20:34] <linuxprobie> Is there an easy way I can disable the ubuntu autologin on a liveboot without having to rebuild the live image?
[20:34] <Like> x-fi xtreme audio
[20:34] <linuxprobie> technicallyrite: yes, he asked for a simple photo editor
[20:34] <technicallyrite> gimp is like a bastard stepchild of the grandaddy photoshop
[20:34] <Lcawte> err... how do I take a screenshot in Ubuntu?
[20:34] <linuxprobie> Lcawte: have you tried printscreen?
[20:34] <erUSUL> Lcawte: press the impr pant button
[20:35] <martinovich> can I try before installing?
[20:35] <erUSUL> Lcawte: print scr that's it ;P
[20:35] <technicallyrite> Any of you guys know anything about Jeos?
[20:35] <linuxprobie> martinovich: it's a free opensource program, you have to install it to try it...
[20:36] <martinovich> thanks I 'll try it gimp
[20:37] <erUSUL> !jeos
[20:37] <technicallyrite> ubottu: Have you used it?
[20:38] <inmanix> repair failed, im missing a dll for internet explorer in windows xp so im going to try a reinstall. now i formatted everything, installed xp, partitioned up and then install unbuntu. it wont affect my boot or do anything bad if i formatted my windows partition and reinstalled xp would it?
[20:39] <hcook> howdy
[20:39] <technicallyrite> inmanix: Formatted, yes. Erase and create new partition, no.
[20:39] <linkd> inmanix, itll overwrite your master boot record but you can easily restore that
[20:39] <inmanix> Great, so aslong as i work within the parameters of that partition, it doesnt matter what i do
[20:39] <inmanix> oh, so ill need to restore grub?
[20:39] <linkd> either with live cd or I think the windows CD in rescue mode has some tool to tinker with the mbr
[20:39] <geek1d> HELLO! guys I need your help just installed NVidia 220 and my sound stoped working aplay -l list nothing, lshw -c Sound list two devices my Internal card and now the NVIdia as sound card!
[20:39] <linkd> inmanix, most likely yeah
[20:39] <geek1d> How do I get this fixed
[20:39] <linkd> otherwise you're good to go
[20:40] <inmanix> if it misses this dll again
[20:40] <inmanix> ill kill someone
[20:40] <inmanix> i HATE installing windows
[20:41] <duffydack> when offered b43 and STA drivers for wireless, which one would be the best (yes I know !best )
[20:41] <hcook> does anybody know whether there's a panel app someplace (or even just a modification to the 'places' menu) that would allow you to "drill down" into the filesystem by mousing over stuff? Like, if the places menu just had > next to the items and then you'd mouse over and that directory would list out to the side?
[20:43] <erUSUL> hcook: no that i know of
[20:43] <cisco21c> How would I go about fixing this: "mountall: error while loading share libraries: /lib/libudev.so.0: cannot read file data: Input/output error
[20:43] <cisco21c> init: mountall main process (1075) terminated with status 127"
[20:43] <gerard1> p2000
[20:44] <Besogon> Does someone hear about TeX and "texi2dvi" script? I'v never used TeX.
[20:44] <geek1d> anybody please ?
[20:44] <oCean_> hcook: maybe something like this one? http://code.google.com/p/gnome-menu-file-browser-applet/
[20:45] <seevee> Are questions about rsync fair game on this channel?
[20:45] <nibbler> geek1d: i assume the nvidia has a soundmodule, too. so sound is output via this now. just change your sound preferecnes system->properties->sound
[20:45] <hcook> oCean_: yes! awesome thanks
[20:45] <nibbler> seevee: if its on ubuntu....
[20:46] <geek1d> nibbler, under output i ahve Dummy output only
[20:46] <ClaRiitaa> eoo
[20:46] <ClaRiitaa> ??
[20:46] <geek1d> aplay -l is ot listing any playback devices !!! nibbler
[20:46] <kanzie> I have no tried to download the isos from ubuntu.com three times, tried both the 32 and the 64-bit and burned on three different DVDs all three give me the same kernel can not be found message
[20:46] <inmanix> anyone know how best to format my ntfs partition without going into windows installer and deleting it?
[20:46] <kanzie> what's up with this?
[20:46] <ClaRiitaa> aii alguienn del vara de rey?? xD
[20:46] <seevee> nibbler: yes, well, is Mint close enough?
[20:46] <nibbler> geek1d: removing the nvidia changes back to old situation?
[20:46] <erUSUL> !es | ClaRiitaa
[20:46] <geek1d> nibbler, yea
[20:47] <erUSUL> inmanix: format to what ?
[20:47] <kanzie> can I not use DVDs? Does it have to be CD-R?
[20:47] <nibbler> geek1d: no idea then, sorry
[20:47] <bastid_raZor> kanzie: burn at the slowest speed possible.. 2x or 4x .. and you're getting the CD version right? 700MB or so?
[20:47] <geek1d> cheers
[20:47] <inmanix> i need to reinstall xp, corrupt installation
[20:47] <geek1d> anyone else ?
[20:47] <nibbler> kanzie: CD isos need to be burned to CDs i think
[20:47] <inmanix> so can i format the drive from ubuntu and reinstall?
[20:47] <inmanix> well, format the partition
[20:48] <kanzie> bastid_raZor: Im getting the 700 one
[20:48] <kanzie> doing md5 now
[20:48] <erUSUL> inmanix: just format it during XP install ?
[20:48] <kanzie> nibbler: but it boots though, I get to the "boot:"-prompt
[20:48] <inmanix> i dont get an option, i only get the delete option
[20:48] <mrfree> hi all
[20:48] <inmanix> and i was informed not to delete the partition, but just to formatr
[20:48] <qvark> hey guys, is anyone of you using the AWN manager?
[20:49] <mrfree> after the latest updates mouse wheel stoped working
[20:49] <kanzie> md5 checks out fine
[20:49] <mrfree> I'm using karmic
[20:49] <noXandOs> I need help sharing a whole drive with windows 7.
[20:50] <panfist_> is there any documentation related to administering a network of ubuntu workstations/servers?
[20:50] <James_-_> Ok I have a fresh install of 9.10, just enabled some video card drivers and it is updating as I type this, after the update I am going to reboot, once I am powered down I am going to connect 2 SATA drives that I want to mount one drive I want to mount at /storage/local and I want to format this drive, the second drive is full of data, I want to mount it at /storage/lts HOWEVER i do not want to format it, it is already formated ntfs and
[20:50] <James_-_> full of data... how do i do this?
[20:50] <inmanix> erUSUL: basically win xp install game me no option but to delete the partition for some reason, surely i can format from gparted and reboot, install xp
[20:51] <nibbler> kanzie: yea..... well.... and then you cant find the kernel
[20:51] <noXandOs> Can anyone help me share a drive on an ubuntu pc with a win 7 pc?
[20:51] <kanzie> nibbler: yep
[20:51] <erUSUL> James_-_: use gparted to format the drive you want to format.
[20:52] <seevee> What would the following give? sudo rsync -axuS --exclude='/*/.gvfs' /home/user/Documents/path/. /home/user/Documents.
[20:52] <erUSUL> !fstab | James_-_
[20:52] <nibbler> kanzie: try a cdr
[20:52] <erUSUL> !samba | noXandOs
[20:52] <James_-_> erUSUL thanks I will read that and work with it at lest it is a starting point
[20:52] <noXandOs> thnksill give it a look
[20:55] <linuxprobie> Is there an easy way I can disable the ubuntu autologin without having to rebuild the live image?
[20:56] <zleap> not sure you mean on a live cd
[20:56] <linuxprobie> yah, I have it on a usb stick
[20:56] <linuxprobie> wanted to set it up as sort of a personalized mobile os I could take anywhere
[20:57] <oCean_> hcook: hah, just installed it myself, the drilldown is a nice option, one i did not think of before!
[20:57] <linuxprobie> but having it automatically login to a desktop with admin rights is counter-productive
[20:59] <eric_c_c> I just ran a successful 'make' on a makefile for a roguelike I'm trying to play.  Now when I try running the file I get "Segmentation Fault".
[20:59] <eric_c_c> When I try to run the default executable that shipped with the game, I get "command not found"
[21:00] <eshannon> hello everyone
[21:00] <eric_c_c> I'm so confused?
[21:00] <vad0r> is there some terminal irc program that i can try
[21:00] <erUSUL> vad0r: irssi
[21:00] <vad0r> that way i can just log back in and use screen
[21:00] <vad0r> k
[21:00] <jophish> I have noticed that for default configuration files in linux, they tend to start with a number, for example 00proxy or 05debian_theme. Why is this?
[21:01] <erUSUL> jophish: so they are ordered when you list them or walk them
[21:01] <Krzysiek> anyone know of an oracle IRC?
[21:01] <eric_c_c> Nobody has any ideas for me? :)
[21:01] <eshannon> is there any experts on 3ware 9500-12 cards?
[21:01] <jophish> ah, thanks erUSUL.
[21:02] <linkd> Krzysiek, #oracle?
[21:02] <erUSUL> Krzysiek: /msg alis list *oracle*
[21:04] <zzillezz> when i choose 'hardware drivers' from the administration menu, do they work with all kernel versions ?
[21:04] <pershian007> hi i have remove <IP_ADDRESS>  in grub menu  // help me
[21:04] <erUSUL> zzillezz: with the ones suplied with ubuntu
[21:04] <zzillezz> i'm testing lucid alpha 2 and nvidia drivers don't seem to install properly
[21:04] <guntbert> !lucid | zzillezz
[21:04] <erUSUL> pershian007: remove the packages for that kernel
[21:04] <oCean_> zzillezz: channel #ubuntu+1
[21:04] <zzillezz> ok, sorry
[21:05] <Gadget3000> zzilezz: try using the binary drivers instead
[21:05] <Gadget3000> zzillezz: try using the binary drivers instead
[21:05] <pershian007> erUSUL i have edite grub list
[21:05] <Andria> do you know how can i have an animated wallpapers ? Thanks to you :)
[21:05] <handjob> Hi all. How can i change grub list ? The menu.lst is absent and /etc/defaults/grub is somewhat strange?
[21:06] <erUSUL> !grub2 | handjob
[21:06] <Gadget3000> handjob: you use grub.conf instead. I think its in /boot/grub
[21:06] <eric_c_c> why would running "sudo ./file_name.bin" produce "command not found" error?
[21:06] <pershian007> How can i change grub2 list ???
[21:06] <blakkheim> eric_c_c: chmod +x file_name.bin
[21:07] <erUSUL> eric_c_c: becouse the file has no +x set?
[21:07] <linuxprobie> Is there an easy way I can disable the livecd ubuntu autologin without having to rebuild the livecd? (on UNR)
[21:07] <Gadget3000> eric_c_c: you need to do: sudo chmod +x filename.bin first
[21:07] <erUSUL> pershian007: the list is autogenerated;just tremove the kernels you do not use already
[21:07] <Matr|x> i have no sound in my pc any one can help me
[21:07] <blakkheim> !sound > Matr|x
[21:07] <handjob> Gadget3000, Yes there is grub.cfg and it starts with "#DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE.."
[21:07] <oCean_> Gadget3000: pershian007 grub.cfg is NOT ment to be edited!
[21:08] <Andria> sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:08] <alabd> how to download dir content ? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/
[21:08] <oCean_> Andria: no!
[21:08] <Gadget3000> handjob: be careful then. I would recommend just not removing anything and only editing it if you know what you are doing
[21:08] <eric_c_c> Thanks guys! What is an +x set?
[21:08] <oCean_> pershian007: read the link ubottu send you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[21:08] <blakkheim> eric_c_c: executable
[21:08] <Tweaksource> execution or search privileges
[21:09] <pershian007> erUSUL my list is <IP_ADDRESS> & <IP_ADDRESS> // How can i change  list ??? i have remove <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:09] <handjob> Gadget3000, "It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig ..."
[21:09] <gerard1> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:09] <Gadget3000> handjob: why do you need to edit it?
[21:09] <thc_flow> hey guys, how to instal kernel 2.4.x form sources with SELinux?
[21:09] <uorygl> Ello. When I tried to boot into Ubuntu for the second time, it informed me that it could not mount the root filesystem, and gave me a root terminal so I could try to fix the problem. Strangely enough, in the root terminal, the root filesystem appeared to be mounted just fine.
[21:09] <handjob> Gadget3000, Why do You ask?
[21:09] <erUSUL> pershian007: again: remove the kernels you do not use. You can use synaptic. search for linux-image
[21:09] <erUSUL> !synaptic | pershian007
[21:10] <Gadget3000> handjob: because it may be best to find and alternate solution and not editing grub.cfg
[21:10] <vad0r> how can i setup screen to work
[21:10] <blakkheim> vad0r: man screen
[21:10] <handjob> Gadget3000, I need to change the order of listed distributions.
[21:10] <pershian007> erUSUL 10 Q
[21:10] <uorygl> I notice that in Palimpsest Disk Utility, the checkbox for that partition says it is not bootable. Might setting it to be bootable help?
[21:10] <Chris___> did the xorg.conf file move in 9.10? (On a mac)
[21:10] <thc_flow> anybody knows?
[21:10] <oCean_> handjob: read here on how to use grub2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[21:11] <erUSUL> thc_flow: 2.*4* !!!!?????
[21:11] <oCean_> thc_flow: 2.4 !?
[21:11] <bastid_raZor> vad0r: start screen by typing screen ..then run irssi .. when you want to leave and do soemthing else do not quit just close the terminal window.. when you return log back in and do a screen -x  (if only 1 instance of screen is running)
[21:11] <vad0r> ill try
[21:11] <thc_flow> erUSUL, oCean_ yeah
[21:11] <handjob> YES I BETTER USE WIKI.
[21:12] <erUSUL> thc_flow: there is no SELinux for such an ancient kernel
[21:12] <Gadget3000> handjob: JUst copy and paste what you want into the bottom section ('custom') and see if it works. If it does then remove the others. backup grub.cfg first
[21:12] <erUSUL> thc_flow: i doubt any modern distri can work with a 2.4 kernel
[21:12] <oCean_> thc_flow: also, there is no support for such an ancient kernel
[21:13] <erUSUL> thc_flow: like trying to run Aero/win7 gui in windows 98
[21:13] <uorygl> Eh, I guess I'll just reinstall. Should be easy enough.
[21:13] <vad0r> after i start screen i start irssi.  i usually hit ctrl z then d to detaach
[21:13] <uorygl> I hope the problem doesn't happen this time.
[21:13] <vad0r> ctrl z exits
[21:13] <uorygl> vad0r: to detach from screen, do ctrl-a then ctrl-d.
[21:13] <vad0r> that was on freebsd though w/ a custom screen file for dynamips
[21:13] <vad0r> so ctrl a is the default
[21:14] <vad0r> k
[21:14] <vad0r> got it
[21:14] <vad0r> thx alot
[21:14] <blakkheim> it's just ctrl+a+d
[21:14] <buttons840> this has happened to me several times; I boot and my wireless card isn't working; i "ps -ef | grep modprobe" and see that process 706 (let's say) is modprobe ndiswrapper; this process doesn't show upon successful boot; i then try "sudo kill -9 706" but this seems to do nothing, i cannot kill the process; why can't i kill the process and does anyone have any suggestions for larger problem, which is having to reboot at times to make
[21:14] <buttons840> the wireless card work?
[21:14] <blakkheim> you dont need ctrl+d
[21:14] <vad0r> \ exits etc
[21:14] <Chris___> did the xorg.conf file move in 9.10? (On a mac)
[21:14] <Roasted> Anybody ever notice in firefox on linux there are times when playing a youtube video I CANNOT fast forward it or exit the ads? Yet some other videos are fine?
[21:14] <uorygl> I always do C-a C-d; I guess C-a d also works.
[21:14] <erUSUL> Chris___: it may not be there; is not a must this days
[21:15] <blakkheim> Chris___: first of all, ubuntu is the same on "a mac" as any other computer from any other company. an apple computer is in no way different.
[21:15] <buttons840> Roasted, do you have trouble clicking on buttons and other interactive things in flash windows
[21:15] <buttons840> ?
[21:15] <blakkheim> Chris___: second of all, xorg (with hal) doesn't always need an xorg.conf
[21:15] <Chris___> right. well. there's no xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[21:15]  * linuxprobie finds self mesmerized by the hypertorus screensaver while waiting for someone to read and help with login issue *
[21:15] <erUSUL> Chris___: if one is present it is followed bu Xorg autoconfigres itself
[21:15] <ben2000677> hi again! probably going to buy the eee pc 1000H, was just wondering if anyone's got any problems with it
[21:15] <Roasted> buttons840, not that I've noticed. The only flash thing I tend to use heavily is youtube.
[21:15] <Tweaksource> Anyone here use fluxbox?
[21:15] <blakkheim> ben2000677: works fine, but why such an old model?
[21:15] <Roasted> buttons840, its weird. Theres a particular jimi hendrix video I CANNOT fast forward. Yet if I go to a song by Gavin Rossdale - its fine....
[21:15] <Chris___> where should I look for the configuration files then? I need to adda line to preserve battery life
[21:15] <ben2000677> what would you recommend
[21:15] <ben2000677> and its on ebay for like 140
[21:16] <ben2000677> #140
[21:16] <ben2000677> GBP
[21:16] <erUSUL> Chris___: create one
[21:16] <buttons840> Roasted, i don't know then, i had some trouble with flash where i couldn't press the play button, or interact with the video controls
[21:16] <linuxprobie> Roasted: then it's a problem with the file, not your computer
[21:16] <Roasted> buttons840, not only that, but its a real PITA when I select "remember password" and "stay logged in" and it doesnt.
[21:16] <blakkheim> ben2000677: the 1201n for 12inch, the 1005ha for 10inch
[21:16] <KenBW2> how do i rsync the contents of one folder to a folder of a different name, like ~/folder1 to ~/folder2
[21:16] <vad0r> what do i do to enable ssh
[21:16] <Roasted> linuxprobie, let me fire up my XP rig and see if it happens there too.... Im kinda doubtful it will though
[21:16] <nibbler> buttons840: seems to get stuck while loading the module... maybe blacklist it,and load manually for betterdebug options?
[21:16] <blakkheim> vad0r: install and configure it
[21:16] <erUSUL> !sshd | vad0r
[21:16] <pershian007> i have download updaate package in offline in windose / help me ?
[21:16] <nibbler> vad0r: aptitude install openssh-server (or so)
[21:16] <Like> KenBW2,  u need too clean # or ~
[21:17] <vad0r> its not on by default
[21:17] <Like> 3 or 4 delevel ;)
[21:17] <Tweaksource> Kenbw2 make symbolis link
[21:17] <buttons840> nibbler, i'm more interesting in the fact that sudo kill -9 is unable to end the process?   how can i tell what processes simply cannot be killed?
[21:17] <akujma> q
[21:17] <KenBW2> Like: i dont understand
[21:17] <akujma> й
[21:17] <erUSUL> buttons840: zombie processes can not be killed. the ones that are i D state iirc
[21:18] <ben2000677> blakkheim: thats beyond my budget, I just want something to get uused to the linux OS
[21:18] <KenBW2> Tweaksource: that was just an example, im actually syncing to another server
[21:18] <guntbert> erUSUL: isn't D "uninterruptible sleep"?
[21:18] <blakkheim> ben2000677: dunno what to tell you then bro
[21:18] <pershian007> i have download updaate package in windose / help me ?
[21:18] <blakkheim> ben2000677: why not use the computer you're on now?
[21:18] <akujma> долбоебы
[21:18] <ben2000677> I am
[21:18] <erUSUL> guntbert: yes could be
[21:18] <akujma> русские есть?
[21:18] <ben2000677> but I want  to travel around a bit
[21:18] <adb_monster> hello people
[21:18] <Tweaksource> Ah...my bad
[21:18] <guntbert> !ru | akujma
[21:18] <Like> ok if you are under root KenBW2  the folder options default created by the order # 3 more close in keiboard as ~ who are you home iff you dont su?
[21:19] <akujma> хуясе
[21:19] <ben2000677> does the MSI wind or acer aspire one compare in any way?
[21:19] <erUSUL> !ot | ben2000677
[21:19] <blakkheim> ben2000677: they're both older and work fine with linux. why don't you just use your current computer?
[21:19] <linuxprobie> Is there an easy way I can disable the ubuntu autologin without having to rebuild the live image?
[21:20] <Roasted> linuxprobie, I can fast forward ti fine in XP - not in linux though.
[21:20] <ben2000677> because I plan on travelling around
[21:20] <Roasted> linuxprobie, even selecting "replay" after the video is done doesnt work
[21:20] <ben2000677> need a laptop or netbook that will ruun ubuntu good
[21:20] <linuxprobie> Roasted: odd
[21:20] <KenBW2> ben2000677: Dell Mini 9 works really well with Ubuntu
[21:20] <erUSUL> Roasted: there is known bug with flash + compiz. some flash controls do not work
[21:20] <pilif12p> yes, they do
[21:20] <pilif12p> i'm on one now :)
[21:20] <Roasted> erUSUL, let me disable compiz...
[21:21] <Roasted> now docky disappeared
[21:21] <Roasted> DAFJSKDJFKLASDFKLASD
[21:21] <erUSUL> Roasted: probably it depends on compositting provided by compiz
[21:21] <linuxprobie> dunno then
[21:22] <linuxprobie> ben2000677: just about any laptop will run ubuntu just fine. there are specific builds that are more geared towards specialized purposes, but just the other day I got UNR installed on an old PII satetelite
[21:22] <Roasted> oh
[21:22] <Roasted> great
[21:22] <Roasted> thats awesome
[21:22] <jolaren> On my ion asrock 330 I've installed the latest nvidia drivers, i've set my gpu to 512mb in bios and i've set xbmc to play with vdpau.. Why does 1080p lag?
[21:22] <Roasted> erUSUL, look at that. I can fast forward now.
[21:22] <Roasted> erUSUL, maybe its time I switch to awn or something. does awn require compositing?
[21:22] <linuxprobie> I'm actually on a dell mini9 as well.
[21:22] <erUSUL> !yay | Roasted
[21:22] <erUSUL> Roasted: dunno; sorry
[21:23] <ben2000677> isn't the mini 10 supposed to be newer and better?
[21:23] <heoa> how do you use "rsync --append"?
[21:23] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: possibly look into cairo-dock. you can use it without compisiting
[21:23] <oCean_> ben2000677: linuxprobie Please stop with the offtopic talk, join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue
[21:23] <Roasted>  bastid_raZor last time I used cairo dock, I hated it. Does it still feel like its in alpha stage, or has it gotten better?
[21:23] <guntbert> ben2000677: please stay on topic - ubuntu support
[21:24] <jellow> need
[21:24] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: i've been using it almost 2 years.. on all 3 of my boxes.
[21:24] <guntbert> ben2000677: sorry - no double warning needed :)
[21:24] <Threetimes> Hi, karmic won't go into standby. It shows the screensaver instead...
[21:24] <Roasted> bastid_raZor, I had it on 3 of my boxes... and all 3 had different issues. Does the control panel look any better by now?
[21:24] <linuxprobie> Roasted: maybe your linux just doesn't like Jimi Hendrix...
[21:25] <Roasted> linuxprobie, once I disable compiz, its fine.
[21:25] <Roasted> but docky needs compiz, whcih is a problem
[21:25] <Roasted> installing cairo dock now...
[21:25] <eshannon> is there any experts on 3ware 9500s-12 cards?
[21:25] <chrisd_> Hi, is there anyway way to increase the audio buffer size in 9.10?
[21:26] <linuxprobie> Ok... Livecd installed to usb. Want disable autologin and ask for password. How to accomplish this?
[21:26] <nuaimat1> hi, i have three questions,
[21:26] <nuaimat1> can i upgrade from ubuntu 9.10 32-bit to 9.10 64-bit?
[21:26] <nuaimat1> what will i loose or get ? can i still run  all my currently installed apps after upgrade ?
[21:26] <nuaimat1> is it true that if there's an application that runs under 32-bit will not necessarily run under 64 ?
[21:26] <FloodBot1> nuaimat1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <Threetimes> Hi, karmic won't go into standby. It shows the screensaver instead...
[21:26] <oCean_> nuaimat1: nope, fresh install
[21:26] <elbanna> hiiiiiii
[21:27] <nightfrog> nuaimat1: save yourself the hassle and do a fresh install
[21:27] <Roasted> bastid_raZor, how do I get cairo to move horizontally?
[21:27] <James_-_> erUSUL ok everything is formated the way I want and currently not mounted... I guess I don't understand the fstab syntax for the first one '/dev/sdc1' how do I set it to auto mount on boot?
[21:27] <nuaimat1> nightfrog: what about q2 and q3 ?
[21:27] <nuaimat1> oCean_: what about q2 and q3 ?
[21:27] <vad0r_> why is my command not working to change nick in irssi
[21:27] <Xcell> which do i use to convert mp3 to ac3   ?
[21:28] <zleap> vad0r, when you try it does the server tab tell you anything
[21:28] <nightfrog> vad0r_: look in the status window for an error
[21:28] <jellow> vad0r_:  /nick
[21:28] <Threetimes> Hi, karmic won't go into standby. It shows the screensaver instead!
[21:28] <vad0r_> thats what i was doing
[21:28] <vad0r_> hmm
[21:28] <oCean_> nuaimat1: well q2: don't upgrade, reinstall. q3: sources are compiled for 32 or 64 bit architecture...
[21:29] <nuaimat1> oCean_: does that mean it won't find a 64 bit version of all my preferred apps ?
[21:29] <vad0r_> lol how do i get back to status window
[21:29] <vad0r_> ive never used irssi
[21:29] <nightfrog> alt 1
[21:29] <Slart> vad0r_: ALT+1
[21:29] <James_-_> everything is formated the way I want and currently not mounted... I guess I don't understand the fstab syntax for the first one '/dev/sdc1' how do I set it to auto mount on boot?
[21:29] <endlesswonder> i know this is off topic, but perhaps there is a quick one line answer to this:  is there a NonStop Plane Flight tomorrow less than $300 to anywhere in California (ideally Southern like Palm Springs, Los Angeles, Orange county, Santa Ana) ???
[21:29] <alabd> how to download just .ipk files in http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/ ?
[21:29] <nightfrog> vad0r_: or alt + left and right arrow
[21:29] <oCean_> nuaimat1: you will in the repositories. The packagesources are compiled for both architectures, so they are available for both architectures
[21:29] <bastid_raZor> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi  vad0r_ this is a good site
[21:30] <vad0r_> what is the command to change nick and identify
[21:30] <vad0r_> i usually change then do it
[21:30] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: cairo-dock has many many options to dig through. there is a #cairo-dock channel
[21:30] <nuaimat1> oCean_: thanks, but just one last question , can i install both 32 and 64 architectures on same box and dual boot ?
[21:30] <endlesswonder> SunCountry from Minneapolis, MN to Palm Springs, CA is $230 (after taxes) but leaves today, and there is No Tomorrow departure
[21:30] <guntbert> vad0r_: /nick newnick
[21:30] <endlesswonder> !!!!!!!!!
[21:30] <oCean_> nuaimat1: sure
[21:30] <Roasted> bastid_raZor, yeah. I see that. I see I have a ton of customizing to do so its not so... eh
[21:30] <vad0r_> i kno wthat
[21:30] <nuaimat1> oCean_: thank you so much
[21:30] <guntbert> !ot | endlesswonder
[21:30] <vad0r_> it wont let me change it because it is registered
[21:30] <vad0r_> which i have the password
[21:31] <oCean_> vad0r_: ask in #freenode please
[21:31] <vad0r_> dont i changed to it first before i identify
[21:31] <vad0r_> the command is /msg nickserv identify password
[21:31] <endlesswonder> will if ANYONE does know, a private message to me would be great!
[21:31] <endlesswonder> thanks, i'll try that channel
[21:31] <guntbert> vad0r_: ask in #freenode
[21:32] <Glaucous> Hello people. I have Ubuntu 9.10, and I need a software to create a proxy. I'm going to use the proxy via the internet from school and such.
[21:32] <kaffien> is it possibel to install mysql-server-4.1 on  ubuntu 9.04 / 9.10?
[21:32] <Glaucous> Any user-friendly alternative?
[21:32] <guntbert> Glaucous: web prxy
[21:32] <guntbert> sorry
[21:33] <Roasted> well, eff. AWN and Docky both require compositing to run.
[21:33] <Roasted> sigh...
[21:33] <blakkheim> Glaucous: use ssh
[21:33] <Glaucous> Like Putty? Or maybe that's only Windows.
[21:33] <octet> hey, can someone help me with a torrent program? the default program (transmission) from the ubuntu install takeing too much resources while downloading more then 5 torrents
[21:33] <gmendoza> Glaucous: if you're going to use the schools proxy... you don't need to install a proxy of your own.  You just need to chage your proxy client settings...
[21:33] <blakkheim> Glaucous: you don't need putty, just use ssh from the commandline
[21:33] <Geforce88> is t here a way on 9.10 to convert .mkv to a burnable dvd  iso?
[21:33] <guntbert> Glaucous: web proxy? take a look at squid - but be *careful* not to have an open proxy
[21:33] <blakkheim> octet: try rtorrent
[21:33] <octet> thanks
[21:34] <gmendoza> I love how people get about 10 diff answers.  hehe.
[21:34] <Glaucous> What I need is to use a proxy on port 80, which is open in the school firewall. And then redirect all traffic to that proxy.
[21:34] <Slart> Geforce88: try devede
[21:34] <devendra> octet, ktorrent too
[21:35] <guntbert> gmendoza: obviously the question was ambiguous
[21:35] <gmendoza> guntbert: no doubt.
[21:35] <guntbert> gmendoza: :)
[21:35] <Geforce88> slart, is works with mkv files?
[21:36] <Slart> Geforce88: I'm not sure.. give it a try
[21:36] <Geforce88> slart, i know k3b ( my personal fav burning software) doesn't
[21:37] <mneptok> Geforce88: Devede is what you want.
[21:37] <mneptok> Geforce88: i know for a fact it works with Matroska video.
[21:38] <KenBW2> does scp copy files regardless of whether there's been a change or not?
[21:38] <Glaucous> With SSH, will I be able to redirect all the traffic on my Ubuntu computer at school to that SSH server?
[21:38] <coordinador> join #ltsp
[21:39] <Geforce88> mneptok, all i want is a burner to take mkv to dvd disk in as few steps as possible
[21:40] <Trojaneyez> #linux
[21:40] <gmendoza> Geforce88: you can also convert just about any video to a DVD format with ffmpeg and mencoder.  ffmpeg syntax is very straight forward.  check this link: http://savvyadmin.com/convert-video-files-to-dvd/
[21:41] <coordinador>  hi, i have a problem, im chrooted and when i want to install anything with apt-get i get "keytool: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so:"  and "error adding mozilla 'something' " like "error adding mozilla/GeoTrust_Global_CA_2.crt"
[21:41] <gmendoza> there may be some need to adjust various settings depending on source aspect ratios, frame rates, etc... but it's pretty easy.
[21:42] <neutrinomass> Hi. I'm thinking of buying a usb audio interface me to do some music recording. Presumably, there will be no Linux drivers for this so I intend to run it through VirtualBox on Windows. Will the virtualisation introduce latency? Thanks
[21:42] <nuckable> hey everyone, i'm having problems compiling a driver for my nic
[21:42] <kanzie> alright, trying to install ubuntu now, stuck at partition. I have XP and Ubuntu8 on the machine alreay. I wanted to remove the XP and use that space but when I click speciufy partitions manuall nothing happens
[21:42] <nuckable> it tells me that there is no rule to make kernel/bounds.c
[21:42] <nuckable> or something like that
[21:43] <guntbert> neutrinomass: better answered in #vbox, I guess :)
[21:43] <gmendoza> Geforce88: also, check out tovid.... it's a front end script in the reposositories that takes a ton of work out of the process as well.
[21:43] <guntbert> !compile | nuckable did you see
[21:43] <palanthas> I am sure I will kick myself when I here the answer but, how do I figure out what my workgroup is in ubuntu? (used to know how...)
[21:43] <nuckable> guntbert, thanks, will look into it
[21:43] <neutrinomass> guntbert: I'll give that a go, thanks.
[21:44] <kanzie> can I at least look at the contents of the partitions while in installation? I have jumped to shell ctrl-alt-f3, do I mount here?
[21:44] <gmendoza> Geforce88: tovidgui is a front end to tovid as well, which makes the whole thing fairly transparent.
[21:44] <suigeneris> palanthas smb.conf
[21:44] <mahmut> selam
[21:45] <suigeneris> !tr | mahmut
[21:45] <palanthas> suigeneris, thankyou
[21:45] <mahmut> türk varmı içinizde
[21:45] <nullp0inter> i am trying to dual boot off of windows 7..and i currently want to use my gparted live cd to make a partition...it wont boot though and i chedked the order in the bios..anythign i can do?
[21:46] <cyberix> I'm trying to write text in latex. I'd need either \AAcht or \twonotes character.
[21:46] <cyberix> How am I supposed to figure out which packages I need to install?
[21:47] <cyberix> Is it enough to have the correct Ubuntu packages installed, or do I need to include definitions for the symbols to my source file somehow?
[21:47] <zleap> have a look at symbols.pdf that tells you
[21:47] <nuckable> guntbert, i got me the build-essential and automake and it still won't compile
[21:48] <guntbert> nuckable: you must read and follow the README and INSTALL files
[21:48] <pfifo> quote from /boot/grub/grub.cfg "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE" wtf? Its booting the wrong install by default!
[21:48] <cyberix> zleap: It says wasysym Musical Symbols
[21:48] <spiritssight> how do I fix broken dep?
[21:48] <nuckable> guntbert, i did, README says to type make all :P
[21:48] <jrib> !grub2 | pfifo
[21:49] <spiritssight> I am trying to update and its saying some thing about broken dep?
[21:49] <jrib> spiritssight: pastebin exactly what you are doing and the full output
[21:49] <zleap> cyberix, i am not sure where my pdf files are for latex /lyx are right now
[21:49] <guntbert> nuckable: sorry, I'm about to leave - but when you ask the channel again you might want to !pastebin the output of your attempt
[21:49] <trism> pfifo: if you want to change the default, edit /etc/default/grub and run sudo update-grub;
[21:49] <zleap> on a flashdrive somewhree
[21:49] <Geforce88> btw any developers of 9.10 here? just wanted to say 9.10 is the BEST release ever!
[21:49] <daguz> I cant get ubuntu to boot from a pxe boot.  I've got 9.10.   It cant find root.  On the options I'm trying to go http and not nfs (the example said to put root=/dev/nfs).
[21:49] <daguz> what root should I put?
[21:49] <localh0st> Geforce88: :D
[21:50] <nuckable> guntbert, sadly i'm using the german version, so people won't have much more of a clue
[21:50] <localh0st> why do you think so?
[21:50] <nuckable> it says no rules to make kernel/bounds.c
[21:50] <trism> pfifo: you can set GRUB_DEFAULT either to the number of the entry you want to boot or the name of the entry (useful if you want to boot something other than the first entry)
[21:50] <frenzy_usa_> Has anyone used QuickBooks Pro in a virtual machine?
[21:51] <guntbert> nuckable: are you certain that you don't need to run ./configure ?
[21:51] <sysdoc> yup
[21:51] <Geforce88> localh0st, to be honest, this 64 bit version is FAST. stable and i love the new configurless Xservernow. and it's nice to have everything work 'out of the box'
[21:51] <SiC> anyone in here with a dell color laser?
[21:51] <nuckable> guntbert, 100%
[21:51] <nuckable> i'm trying to compile a driver
[21:51] <palanthas> I have to hard drives that do not mount upon login. I must manually double-click the drives in Places and enter my password before they are mounted and the other PCs on the network can see them. How do I get them to mount automatically?
[21:51] <Slart> SiC: checked www.linuxprinting.org ?
[21:51] <SiC> yea Slart
[21:51] <Geforce88> so kudos. to you and your team
[21:51] <SiC> no luck
[21:51] <nuckable> but i think i need the kernel sources
[21:51] <nuckable> =/
[21:51] <SiC> checked the error.log too
[21:51] <localh0st> Geforce88: hm, nice. i'm using ubuntu ocasionally, only when my windows is crashed ;d
[21:51] <Slart> !fstab | palanthas
[21:51] <nibbler> !fstab | palanthas
[21:51] <spiritssight> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d9233c79
[21:52] <SiC> all the print jobs are getting stuck as "processing"
[21:52] <jrib> spiritssight: why are you running update-manager -d?
[21:52] <SiC> only with my color dell though, all hp printers seem fine
[21:52] <Geforce88> localh0st, i use linux only always. i have a windows 7 64 bit prof. install i dual boot with 9.10, but, to be honest, 9.10 boots up in a fourth of the time
[21:52] <palanthas> Thanks Slart, ubottu, and nibbler!
[21:52] <pfifo> trism, No, I want the first entry to boot, i want to order the entries differently, right now it has ubuntu-ja listed first then XP then ubuntu-en, i want it listed ubuntu-en, ubuntu-ja and lastly XP
[21:53] <phil_fl> nuckable: have you donwloaded the kernel source ?
[21:53] <nuckable> phil_fl, i'm trying to, but i fail at it :P
[21:53] <spiritssight> jrib: Doing a upgrade from 8.10 to latest
[21:53] <localh0st> Geforce88: im using sleep mode in my windows, so it start up faster than ubuntu
[21:53] <localh0st> :P
[21:53] <jrib> spiritssight: you don't run update-manage -d for that
[21:53] <jrib> !upgrade > spiritssight
[21:53] <phil_fl> nuckable: cd /usr/src and then sudo tar -xvjf your linux source
[21:54] <Geforce88> localh0st, cold boot for windows takes 4X as long as cold boot of 9.10
[21:54] <nuckable> i just tried doing sudo tar -xvjf linux-source-2.6.31-17-server.tar.bz2
[21:54] <nuckable> didn't work
[21:54] <Geforce88> localh0st,  that's timed, btw. :)
[21:54] <jrib> nuckable: well first, /why/ are you doing that?  And second, what does "didn't work" mean?
[21:54] <trism> pfifo: unfortuately that isn't exactly straightforward with grub2, unless you manually edit grub.cfg, but if you do, you will have to manually edit it again every kernel/grub update
[21:54] <phil_fl> nuckable: what does it means it doesn't work do you have an error message ?
[21:55] <nuckable> jrib, i'm doing it because my nic is messing around and i'm trying to install the official drivers from asus, but i need to compile them and the compiler is telling me that kernel.c file is missing
[21:55] <jrib> nuckable: you should just need linux-headers from the repositories
[21:55] <pfifo> thats crappy!!!
[21:55] <nuckable> (i'm translating this) it can't open because the file doesn't exist
[21:55] <LoOoD> what is the default kernel.shmmax value?
[21:55]  * pfifo is unhappy with ubuntu atm
[21:56] <nuckable> jrib, thanks for the info, so how do i get those?
[21:56] <jrib> !software | nuckable
[21:56] <SiC> any cups expert folk in here?
[21:56] <nuckable> jrib, to be honest i'm using ubuntu server :P
[21:57] <jrib> nuckable: doesn't matter
[21:57] <phil_fl> LoOoD: sysctl kernel.shmmax
[21:57] <nuckable> so what did you try to tell me then?
[21:57] <nuckable> i'm getting exactly this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1047374
[21:57] <jrib> nuckable: read the link from ubottu.  Obviously, you want to read the "command line" part if you are on the server
[21:57] <nuckable> but doing sudo tar ... doesn't work
[21:57] <LoOoD> phil_fl: I changed so and fotget the default value
[21:57] <nuckable> it can't find the file
[21:57] <vlt> !anyone | SiC
[21:57] <jrib> nuckable: did ubottu's link say anything about sudo tar?
[21:58] <SiC> i did ubottu
[21:58] <SiC> no response
[21:58] <SiC> lol
[21:58] <nuckable> jrib, nope
[21:58] <phil_fl> LoOoD 33554432
[21:58] <SiC> i was wondering if anyone had any knowledge with dell lasers with cups
[21:58] <nuckable> but it also didn't say anything about kernel headers
[21:58] <phil_fl> LoOoD, 32MB
[21:58] <LoOoD> thanks!
[21:58] <jrib> nuckable: you want to install the linux-headers PACKAGE.  ubottu tells you how to do this
[21:59] <LjL> nuckable: he told you to install the package "linux-headers". the link explains how to install a package.
[22:00] <spiritssight> jrib: when i do it from update manager in UI it says upgrade partilite then it quits that when I ran the cmd that I showed u so what do I need to fix the dependceys ?
[22:00] <jrib> spiritssight: "partilite"?
[22:00] <noXandOs> I am going crazy I am only trying to share a drive via samba. I used to be able to at least see the ubuntu pc in My Network now I can't even see it.
[22:00] <nuckable> it tells me that linux-headers-2.6.31-17-server is already the newest version
[22:01] <jrib> nuckable: good, then it's already installed
[22:01] <nuckable> great...
[22:01] <spiritssight> jrib partial oops
[22:01] <teage> were can i find the folder that holds the background images in ubuntu karmic?
[22:01] <wish^> does openoffice support my olf office documents?
[22:01] <rek> what will i have if i get sudo apt get install kde?
[22:01] <rek> kde 3 ?
[22:01] <kaolbrec> wish^: yes, although it does change the font sometimes
[22:01] <nuckable> still getting the same error
[22:02] <nuckable> D=
[22:02] <imachine> hello
[22:02] <prizm> quick problem
[22:02] <kaolbrec> rek: afaik it's kde 4
[22:02] <prizm> installed Xubuntu, then lxde on top
[22:02] <prizm> started lxde
[22:02] <imachine> I have new user new install, upon first login I was asked about two actions requiring my notice- non full language support and request for password to encrypt home dir
[22:02] <wish^> change the font sometimes, ? but will it open all my documents so i can read em?
[22:02] <jrib> spiritssight: is your system up to date?  i.e. run updates
[22:02] <imachine> I have clicked 'next' and they're gone now
[22:02] <prizm> and firefox/ping/lynx doesn't connect to the net - xce does
[22:02] <Al7ooooot> any one from palestine ?
[22:02] <prizm> *xfce
[22:02] <imachine> how can I invoke those questions again ?
[22:02] <rek> afaik = = ?
[22:03] <imachine> rek, as far as i know
[22:03] <jrib> rek: as far as i know
[22:03] <imachine> :) heh
[22:03] <rek> jrib  no automount with kde
[22:03] <CAPcap> I accidentally removed my volume control from my panel, how do i get it back?
[22:03] <kaolbrec> wish^: it doesn't have all the same fonts that you might have had in windows. You can usually install them though. It just swaps out the font of bits it doesn't have the "right" font for.
[22:03] <jrib> CAPcap: right click -> add to panel
[22:03] <kaolbrec> rek: As Far As I Know
[22:03] <jrib> nuckable: you have to follow directions given to you by asus
[22:03] <prizm> hello, anyone answer me?
[22:04] <CAPcap> jrib i dont see it there thats why im asking
[22:04] <jrib> prizm: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:04] <jrib> CAPcap: should be there
[22:04] <nuckable> jrib, asus tells me to "make all"
[22:04] <phil_fl> rek, sudo apt-cache search kde
[22:04] <jrib> nuckable: really? That's the *only* documentation they give you?
[22:04] <imachine> CAPcap, generally, you idnt remove the volume control
[22:04] <cisco21c> I get this error whenever I try to install Ubuntu: mountall: error while loading share libraries: /lib/libudev.so.0: cannot read file data: Input/output error. init: mountall main process (1075) terminated with status 127
[22:04] <spiritssight> jrib: that what I was trying to do first and that what I get when I go to admin then update manager
[22:04] <imachine> CAPcap, you removed the entire notifict ion area
[22:04] <wish^> but what about excel docs and powerpoint?
[22:04] <wish^> works fine?
[22:04] <imachine> CAPcap, that's whatyou need to add
[22:04] <jrib> spiritssight: what is "that" in your sentence?
[22:04] <imachine> CAPcap, the notification area
[22:04] <nuckable> jrib, yup
[22:04] <Karpus> not exactly ubuntu specific, but I guess someone here knows: pidgin doesn't seem to have an icon, I'm running Docky and it shows a question mark as the pidgin icon... any way to fix that?
[22:04] <kaolbrec> wish^: it'l open them yes
[22:04] <jrib> nuckable: contact asus then
[22:04] <CAPcap> imachine thanks
[22:05] <imachine> np
[22:05] <militant> anyone use remote desktop viewer, ultravnc, or tightvnc to go from their ubuntu box to an XP box?
[22:05] <nuckable> jrib, thanks
[22:05] <wish^> and will the tables and cells work like they should?
[22:05] <imachine> militant, here
[22:05] <wish^> so i can edit as i want?
[22:05] <imachine> militant, what seems to be th problem?
[22:05] <imachine> I run ultravnc and teamviewer, without hassle
[22:05] <kaolbrec> wish^: Yes, In my experience.
[22:05] <militant> imachine, cool.  when you do so, does it typically log you out of or lock your existing XP session?
[22:05] <imachine> only as client tho
[22:05] <wish^> vmware?
[22:05] <spiritssight> jrib: update the system before upgrading verison
[22:05] <jrib> spiritssight: yes, have you done that?
[22:05] <imachine> militant, in ultravnc? dunno. but there's a setting for that in ultravnc server.
[22:05] <imachine> militant, check your server settings. not relevant to ubuntu imho.
[22:06] <noXandOs> great now the pc wont even boot
[22:06] <kaolbrec> wish^: was the "vmware?" question also directed at me?
[22:06] <militant> imachine, i thought there was, but i couldn't get it to stop doing it before.  and you're right, it's not really ubuntu-relevant, but i thought i'd ask kuz #ubuntu seemed a likely place to find someone who uses the stuff
[22:06] <senorpedro> hi folks
[22:06] <imachine> there's an option deliberately called "do not log off or lock on last client"
[22:06] <imachine> or something like that
[22:06] <imachine> go check.
[22:06] <senorpedro> does anybody know where i can get a wordlist with german substantives?
[22:06] <CAPcap> imachine i removed it because it was showing two but only 1 was doing something so i tried to get rid of the one that appeared useless, what was happening as i can now see is that for some reason it was displaying a volume icon instead of a wifi connection icon.... so weird
[22:07] <militant> k.  i think it didn't have that option or didn't work properly last time, but it's a fresh XP install now so we'll see.  thanks :)
[22:07] <imachine> CAPcap, it hiccups sometimes.
[22:07] <lightpriest> anyone's using NX and compiz?
[22:07] <imachine> CAPcap, don;t worry about it too much, should be gone on reboot or login/logout
[22:07] <CAPcap> imachine obviously :P
[22:07] <vlt> senorpedro: wortschatz.uni-leipzig.de (as I told you like a year ago ;-)
[22:07] <imachine> militant, cheers
[22:07] <soreau> lightpriest: Nope
[22:07] <spiritssight> jrib: it won't let me, I get the not all updates can be installed dialog, I click  do partial upgrade
[22:07] <CAPcap> oh its working fine now that i reloaded it :)
[22:07] <soreau> lightpriest: What is NX?
[22:07] <imachine> CAPcap, :)
[22:08] <imachine> I just got my X40 back online
[22:08] <lightpriest> NoMachine, neatx, FreeNX, etc.
[22:08] <jellow> I can't set up dual monitors Nvidia tool pick up the display but cannot save to Xorg.conf witht his error Failed to Phrase existing X config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:08] <jrib> spiritssight: in a terminal: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade    and then pastebin
[22:08] <imachine> with a non-ibm branded network card
[22:08] <imachine> neat
[22:08] <imachine> ;p
[22:08] <lightpriest> compressed/proxied X server
[22:08] <senorpedro> vlt, you never told me that
[22:08] <imachine> it beats intel iw2100 that's for sure
[22:08] <imachine> so, any ideas aout my issue?
[22:08] <imachine> about those question windows, not coming back up ?
[22:09] <imachine> or will they, eventually ?
[22:09] <lightpriest> i got a problem that windows that are loaded using NoMachine's client are getting dark (like they're not responding)
[22:09] <imachine> I'm guessing they should continue to biug me
[22:09] <VCoolio> jellow: did you run the nvidia tool with gksudo? you need root permissions to write to xorg.conf
[22:09] <ikonia> lightpriest: nomachine ?
[22:09] <lightpriest> you know NoMachine?
[22:09] <lightpriest> NX, smt? ;p
[22:09] <ikonia> ahh NX
[22:10] <ikonia> no,
[22:10] <nicanor5> hello, i have a problem while trying to set up a multi boot system, I did the proper partitioning with GParted distro (I have a data only partition I don't want to lose) and then I installed Windows XP, but now Linux can't recognize the partions
[22:10] <spiritssight> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d5d53c81f
[22:10] <jellow> VCoolio, il try it one second
[22:10] <lightpriest> bahh, I'm trying to run eclipse remotely.. do you know a better way to do that?
[22:10] <jrib> spiritssight: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list*
[22:10] <ikonia> nicanor5: define can't recognise the partition.
[22:10] <ikonia> nicanor5: what are you doing that makes you think it can't see the partitions
[22:11] <nicanor5> ikonia: it says unallocated
[22:11] <ikonia> lightpriest: NX is fine in my view
[22:11] <DasEi> nicanor5: which os did you istall in which order ?
[22:11] <lightpriest> yeah but windows are darkening :)
[22:11] <ikonia> nicanor5: then allocate the partitions
[22:11] <ikonia> lightpriest: disable compiz
[22:11] <lightpriest> ikonia: i guess I could do that
[22:11] <photocopy> Hello. I'm looking to install Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory 2.60b. I don't have any idea how to install things from source, so I was looking for a .deb package or this game in the repositories and cannot find either. Anybody know where to find this/if it excists?
[22:11] <nicanor5> DasEi: I've only installed windows XP
[22:11] <jellow> VCoolio, what the exact name of Nvidia tool thingy?
[22:11] <lightpriest> ikonia: do you know how to manually start a NX session with SSH?
[22:11] <ikonia> nicanor5: then when you install ubuntu it will give you the option to partition (create your linux partitions)
[22:11] <VCoolio> jellow: hang on
[22:12] <ikonia> lightpriest: not off the top of my head
[22:12] <nicanor5> ikonia: that would delete my data partion
[22:12] <DasEi> nicanor5: so how Linux can(t) recognize it ?
[22:12] <lightpriest> ikonia: thank's, i'll disable compiz
[22:12] <VCoolio> jellow: try "gksudo nvidia-settings"
[22:12] <imachine> ikonia, you will probably now :)
[22:12] <ikonia> nicanor5: no, the space is unallocated
[22:12] <ikonia> imachine: what's up ?
[22:12] <nicanor5> DasEi: It recognizes the full disk but not the partitions in it
[22:13] <ikonia> nicanor5: then there are no partitions on it beyond your windows one
[22:13] <imachine> ikonia, can you give me a hint? I installed fresh 9.10, setup encrypted home dir and all. upon initial login, two "important notifications" windows popped up, asking me to setup the encrypted home password, and to install missing language support
[22:13] <vlt> Hello. I want to record a small video clip using my webcam (v4l2 /dev/video0) and microphone in. What tool can I use on Ubuntu?
[22:13] <kalakouentin> e
[22:13] <nicanor5> ikonia: but when I boot windows it recognizes the data partition
[22:13] <imachine> ikonia, I clicked next and nothing happened, the windows are gone, can I manually somehow bring them back up? I;d like to install language support and fully setup my encrypted home :)
[22:13] <ikonia> nicanor5: can you please boot to a linux livecd and do "sudo fdisk -l" then pastebin the results
[22:13] <kanzie> since all the partitions I have are full can I jump to shell and use fdisk to remove one and then use this space for installation in ubuntu installer?
[22:14] <ikonia> imachine: do they not come back when you boot ?
[22:14] <gmendoza> vlt: you can try cheese
[22:14] <imachine> ikonia, nope
[22:14] <flyguy97> I want to run a copy of lucid for testing my own packages, do I need to download a fresh copy of each of the alpha and beta iso
[22:14] <DasEi> kanzie: you can choose manual partition in installe menu
[22:14] <imachine> I can try once more but they didn't come back last time :p
[22:14] <imachine> brb
[22:14] <ikonia> imachine: that's frustrating, if you know/search for the package names, you can boot it a non-X display
[22:14] <kanzie> DasEi: I've tried, I click it but nothing happens
[22:14] <flyguy97> I want to run a copy of lucid for testing my own packages, do I need to download a fresh copy of each of the alpha and beta iso's or will it automatically upgrade to the latest?
[22:15] <DasEi> kanzie: hd mussnt be mounted
[22:15] <BinaryMan> is anyone here familiar with how initrd, luks/crytsetup work for full drive encryption?
[22:15] <kanzie> DasEi: only the bar below becomes all orange
[22:15] <LjL> flyguy97: it will upgrade, but better ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:15] <vlt> gmendoza: How to save the captured video clip? How to setup video codec settings in cheese?
[22:15] <militant> imachine, oddly enough it works proper.  thanks, though i'm not sure why it's different this time around..
[22:15] <flyguy97> LjL: thanks
[22:15] <kaolbrec> !cheese | vlt
[22:15] <DasEi> kanzie forr whole disk you mean
[22:15] <photocopy> Can anybody help a bit of a newbie install something from source?
[22:16] <VCoolio> with karmic using upstart, is sysv-rc-config still the proper tool to manage runlevels? if no, what is?
[22:16] <spiritssight> jrib: u want to know the files that all start with sources.list correct?
[22:16] <ikonia> photocopy: what do you want to install
[22:16] <BinaryMan> photocopy: sure. what's up?
[22:16] <jrib> spiritssight: yes
[22:16] <ikonia> VCoolio: update-rc.d
[22:16] <DasEi> !compile | photocopy
[22:16] <nicanor5> ikonia: I just booted a livecd and all the partitions appear
[22:16] <LjL> photocopy: if the newbie gives us a good reason why they're installing stuff from source, perhaps :P
[22:16] <kanzie> DasEi: yep, the full extent of the disk is orange... and on top of the screen I have the same bar but iwth partitions in different colours
[22:16] <DrWolfen> Hi!  Lately I've been having an issue with my netbook using ubuntu 9.10.  After downloading and installing an update, I shut down my computer.  When I restarted it, my computer would load up past grub, show the ubuntu symbol for a couple seconds and then completely freeze.  After experiencing this, I tried running ubuntu in recovery mode, but I would get an error saying /sbin/init:error while loading shared libraries: /lib/l
[22:16] <DrWolfen> ibdus-1.so.3: only ET_DYN and ET_EXEC can be loaded, a lot of other text and then "*ERROR* panic occured, switching back to text console, and then the comptuer is frozen again.  I've tried going into the grub menu and booting from older kernels, but the same thing happens.  I've also tried reinstalling ubuntu through a live CD image in a USB stick and that has also been unsucessful.  Does anyone have any idea of what's wrong
[22:16] <gmendoza> vlt: cheese' options are very basic... just install and check available preferences.  You can always reencode the video after it's been taken if you want.  It won't help quality, but it's all up to you.
[22:16] <DrWolfen>  and what I should do?  I've scoured the depths of google and I'm stumped
[22:16] <FloodBot1> DrWolfen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <ikonia> nicanor5: so the partitions are there - what is not recognising the partitions ?
[22:16] <BinaryMan> LjL: probably because the program isn't in the ubuntu repo.
[22:16] <photocopy> LjL, DasEi, BinaryMan, ikonia, etc; I want to install Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory and its not in the repos or in a .deb package as far as my searching yields.
[22:17] <ikonia> BinaryMan: let him answer then
[22:17] <kanzie> member:DasEi: yep, the full extent of the disk is orange... and on top of the screen I have the same bar but iwth partitions in different colours
[22:17] <DasEi> kanzie: for a standard install least need 2 partis, / and swap. ich you choose manual partition, can do so
[22:17] <nicanor5> ikonia: the old install (the one with the blue background) of another distro I want to install first
[22:17] <imachine> ikonia, nope, nothing on reboot
[22:17] <vlt> gmendoza: I already installed it. I can't find out how to finally sace the recorded video clip
[22:17] <LjL> BinaryMan: yeah that's possible, but i never assume that, because it often turns out to be a wrong assumption
[22:17] <vlt> gmendoza: *save
[22:17] <gmendoza> vlt... it's saved by default.
[22:17] <ikonia> nicanor5: you said you had only installed windows
[22:17] <DasEi> photocopy: foreign app, run as exe in
[22:17] <photocopy> LjL: turns out it isn't ^^ sorry
[22:17] <DasEi> !wine
[22:17] <kanzie> DasEi: yeah I know,only choosing manual doesn't give me the option to do anything
[22:17] <nicanor5> ikonia: i have only installed windows
[22:17] <gmendoza> vlt... once you record it shows up at the bottom of cheese.  The videos are available to play from there.
[22:17] <photocopy> DasEi: it has a native version for linux i thought
[22:18] <imachine> ikonia, it wasn't standard dpkg info windows, it was some other config stuff.
[22:18] <nicanor5> ikonia: i was about to install this other distro
[22:18] <ikonia> imachine: without knowing what packages it things are missing, not sure which ones woudl be correct to manually download
[22:18] <spiritssight> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d1507bd9c
[22:18] <ikonia> nicanor5: then there is nothing to "not recgnise" your partitions
[22:18] <ikonia> nicanor5: other distros are not supported here
[22:18] <mneptok> DasEi: ET is a Linux app
[22:18] <jrib> spiritssight: I need teh actual contents...
[22:18] <mneptok> photocopy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory
[22:18] <imachine> ikonia, it's okay with the language support, it's the home dir I worry about
[22:18] <imachine> or, feel uneasy ;p
[22:18] <nicanor5> ikonia: thank you
[22:18] <jrib> spiritssight: just sources.list and anything in sources.list.d
[22:18] <gmendoza> vlt: they are stored in a local directory, which you can move using your file manager.
[22:18] <DasEi> mneptok: idk, tell photocopy
[22:18] <ikonia> imachine: I assume you can't use your home dir now as it's encypted ?
[22:18] <mneptok> DasEi: i just did.
[22:19] <DasEi> :)
[22:19] <LjL> photocopy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory
[22:19] <vlt> gmendoza: I only get icons here when using the "take photo" mode.  Do you know the name of the local folder?
[22:19] <CAPcap> lol @ marules exit
[22:19] <imachine> ikonia, using it as we speak
[22:19] <CAPcap> marcules*
[22:19] <photocopy> Ouf. alright, well, Ill try following what mneptok/LjL linked me to, but whenever i try and do something like this i always seem to mess it all up ^^
[22:19] <imachine> ikonia, but there's some password issue remaining to be setup
[22:19] <ikonia> imachine: did you have to decrypt / mount it manually
[22:19] <LjL> photocopy: if you're unsure about any step, ask
[22:19] <mneptok> photocopy: so do your gaming on a console as sane people do ;)
[22:20] <BinaryMan> photocopy: http://www.playdeb.net/software/Enemy%20Territory
[22:20] <DasEi> kanzie: hm, it should let you do that, the alternate installer has advanced options in partioning, but if you can choose whole disk, maual also should work
[22:20] <photocopy> mneptok: haha, a good friend of mine still plays this, and wants me to play
[22:20] <imachine> ikonia, like I said, I just skipped the windows
[22:20] <BinaryMan> photocopy: you'll proabably want to read http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/9.04/?category=FPS#how_to_install too
[22:20] <kanzie> DasEi: I got it now, stupid mistake on my part, not to familiar with UI :-)
[22:20] <LjL> photocopy: oh, if it's on playdeb, that might be a better idea. (yeah i googled a little too, but didn't hit playdeb)
[22:20] <ikonia> imachine: sorry, I didn't explain that clearly. to use /home do you have to manually unencrypt and mount it manually ?
[22:20] <kanzie> ext4.. wow, is it working well?
[22:20] <imachine> nope
[22:20] <DasEi> kanzie: y, got to choose before that window
[22:21] <ikonia> imachine: so it works fine as is ?
[22:21] <jellow> VCoolio, Still same error
[22:21] <imachine> ikonia, the message in the window said that while it works, a password needs to be setup in case of an emergency recovery
[22:21] <kanzie> DasEi: and 1.5xRAM is good for SWAP?
[22:21] <BinaryMan> LjL: i used to play ET on Ubuntu. went through the whole hassle of getting it to work and used playdeb to get it.
[22:21] <ikonia> imachine: ahhh I see
[22:21] <imachine> currently if emergency occurs, I just loose data, that's what I would assume
[22:21] <imachine> ikonia, anyway, I just want to trigger those mechanisms behind the windows
[22:21] <photocopy> BinaryMan: Are those links supposed to work? firefox says that type isnt associated with anything, it's called "apt" so i assume somehow its a link that tries to make apt automatically install it?
[22:21] <imachine> ikonia, sorry that I can't word the "window" any better
[22:22] <BinaryMan> i just needed google to find the link for it.
[22:22] <ikonia> imachine: no, you'd have to decypt it manually
[22:22] <ikonia> imachine: I know what you mean, it's fine
[22:22] <imachine> safe :)
[22:22] <BinaryMan> photocopy: did you read the second link I gave you?
[22:22] <BinaryMan> photocopy: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/9.04/?category=FPS#how_to_install
[22:22] <ikonia> imachine: as long as you know the password, you can decrypt it manually in an emergency
[22:22] <nicanor5> ikonia: it's me again, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04, and again the installation can't recognize the partitions, of my HD, the only option I get is: new partition table
[22:22] <imachine> ikonia, so, any clues as to how I might go on about launching those windows once more ?
[22:22] <photocopy> BinaryMan: oh okay oops
[22:22] <CAPcap> if i go to a site that has fonts that i could use for windows, how can i install them here?
[22:22] <imachine> ikonia, I'd still like that, ideally
[22:22] <CAPcap> windows u just drag and drop
[22:23] <ikonia> nicanor5: I find that hard to beleieve, if your sudo fdisk -l command shows it - it can see the partitions
[22:23] <LjL> !fonts > CAPcap    (CAPcap, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:23] <kanzie> DasEi: so I make / primary and swap logical then?
[22:23] <DasEi> kanzie: depends.. to hibenate double RAM, I dont use swap at all
[22:23] <trism> CAPcap: generally you can put them in ~/.fonts
[22:23] <BinaryMan> photocopy: When adding the deb address, replace karmic-getdeb to jaunty if your using jaunty, etc. If you're using karmic, you're all set.
[22:23] <ikonia> imachine: how do you know it doesn't want you to do that manually when you press next (I've never heard of a tool setting it up for you)
[22:23] <DasEi> kanzie no matter prim/log
[22:23] <CAPcap> thanls LjL and trism
[22:23] <spiritssight> jrib: here they are if its not what you wanted please explain on to obtain http://pastebin.com/d11ba83ae
[22:23] <Nz17> Everyone: Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu if the graphical installer keeps crashing and no other install discs are available?
[22:23] <nicanor5> ikonia: I'm surprised as you are, as I already said, the livecd and the fdisk -l see the partitions
[22:24] <dbruhn> Anyone in here make a usbkey installer for ubuntu not using the method of copying the iso to a disk
[22:24] <ikonia> Nz17: getting some more cd's and burning the alternative installer is a good idea
[22:24] <nicanor5> omitiendo la partición vacía (5)
[22:24] <nicanor5> Disco /dev/sda: 160.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>96 bytes
[22:24] <nicanor5> 255 cabezas, 63 sectores/pista, 19457 cilindros
[22:24] <nicanor5> Unidades = cilindros de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[22:24] <nicanor5> Identificador de disco: 0x0000d1c1
[22:24] <nicanor5> Disposit.  BinaryMan, im actually using linux mint 8 which is based on ubuntu 9.10 and uses all the same repos and stuff, do i use karmic-getdeb still?
[22:24] <imachine> ikonia, no, there's two options, next and "launch this now"
[22:24] <FloodBot1> nicanor5: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:24] <Nz17> ikonia: I would if I could, but the person I'
[22:24] <imachine> ikonia, ofcourse I had to click next ;)
[22:24] <DasEi> Nz17: checked cd for deects ?
[22:24] <ikonia> nicanor5: I suspect you're not reading the test clearly
[22:24] <ikonia> photocopy: control your lanaguage
[22:24] <imachine> ikonia, which took me to issue two, which was the languages missing
[22:24] <Nz17> ikonia: am helping is hundreds of miles away and has no disc.
[22:24] <imachine> but there was no 'back' button:)
[22:24] <ikonia> Nz17: he needs to go and buy some them
[22:24] <jrib> spiritssight: thanks.  Have you installed anything outside the repositories?
[22:25] <ikonia> imachine: it may just be "for your information" rather than a tool
[22:25] <dbruhn> ikonia, I can't seem to find an alternate intaller for what I need. I need 9.04 server
[22:25] <imachine> installing language support now.. only the disk issue stays fishy
[22:25] <Nz17> ikonia: That's not an option - no money and the nearest place is 20 miles away.
[22:25] <dbruhn> and I need to modify the initrd
[22:25] <dbruhn> for the intaller
[22:25] <imachine> ikonia, I'm pretty sure it's a tool, I've used it before 90%
[22:25] <ikonia> dbruhn: the server cd does not have an alternative installer, as it's a text based installer any way
[22:25] <nicanor5> ikonia: what do you mean?
[22:25] <DasEi> Nz17: install via usb ?
[22:25] <ikonia> imachine: ahh, I've never used it
[22:25] <ikonia> nicanor5: what partitioning option did you select, you should have multiple choices
[22:25] <imachine> ya, encrypted home sounds nice:)
[22:25] <imachine> specially on a laptop
[22:25] <dbruhn> oh sorry maybe I am in on a second conversation
[22:26] <BinaryMan> the server cd doesn't come with X or a window manager either, afaik. it's really intended for servers.
[22:26] <BinaryMan> thus, 'server' cd.
[22:26] <nicanor5> ikonia: I have installed ubuntu and other distros a lot of times, and never happened this before
[22:26] <imachine> there used to be an 'alternate' cd
[22:26] <imachine> or so
[22:26] <imachine> maybe that;s what he means
[22:26] <ikonia> imachine: there is
[22:26] <BinaryMan> imachine: except benchmarks on it show that it's murders disk read/write performance.
[22:26]  * imachine is not really paying attention, soz
[22:26] <ikonia> nicanor5: ok - so which partitioning option did you chose
[22:27] <imachine> :)
[22:27] <ikonia> imachine: just not for the server release
[22:27] <Nz17> ikonia: Turns out there was a defect with the CD.  Thanks anyway, guys.
[22:27] <nicanor5> ikonia: the only two options I get when I get to the partitioning part are: use all the disk and manually specify partitions
[22:27] <ikonia> Nz17: good find
[22:27] <imachine> brb
[22:27] <BinaryMan> and a lot of sensitive data is kept in swap, /opt, and /var
[22:27] <ikonia> nicanor5: and what happens when you select manual
[22:27] <photocopy> BinaryMan: I  went here and http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/9.04/?category=FPS#how_to_install installed the playdeb package but the install link still does the same thing. the browser isn't handling the command that link seems to be giving it. "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isn't associated with any program." makes sense. What do I do?
[22:27] <BinaryMan> if you're going to bother with encryption, just go the full partition with LUKS route.
[22:27] <nicanor5> ikonia: the only active option is: new partition table
[22:28] <ikonia> nicanor5: I find that hard to accept
[22:28] <nicanor5> ikonia: as I told you, I'm as surprised as you
[22:28] <ikonia> nicanor5: the only other option is when you partitioned the disk it was no created properly
[22:29] <ikonia> nicanor5: try using the alternative CD that does not use gparted, see if that sees your partitions at install time
[22:29] <nicanor5> ikonia: yeah, I think that's the only option left
[22:29] <BinaryMan> photocopy: open up a terminal window and run 'sudo apt-get install apturl'
[22:29] <BinaryMan> if it's already install, great. if it's not, install it.
[22:29] <BinaryMan> and then tell firefox to open apt links with /usr/bin/apturl
[22:29] <jellow> I can't save my setting with Nvidia-tools i get this error "Failed to Phrase existing X config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"  Tried as root
[22:30] <nicanor5> ikonia: if by alternative you mean the install with the blue background, I've already tried that when trying to install the other distro
[22:30] <ikonia> jellow: how did you launch the tool
[22:30] <jellow> ikonia, gksudo
[22:30] <ikonia> nicanor5: I'm not interesed in the other distro's output -
[22:30] <ikonia> jellow: show me the output of "ls -la /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[22:31] <jellow> ikonia,  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 225 2010-01-21 00:01 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:31] <BinaryMan> photocopy: if you're further interested, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL
[22:31] <ikonia> jellow: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old then try agai n
[22:31] <nicanor5> ikonia: ok, It appears the only option I have is to reformat the HD
[22:31] <ikonia> again
[22:31] <photocopy> BinaryMan; I installed apturl... what next?
[22:32] <ikonia> nicanor5: I find that hard to accept, did the ubuntu alternative installer pick it up ?
[22:32] <Fjordside> Does anyone know a tool for the gnome menu bar to show network dl/upload speed?
[22:32] <photocopy> BinaryMan: actually, im configing it as that second link you sent me says, ill tell you when im done or if i get stuck again
[22:33] <bastid_raZor> Fjordside: netspeed applet
[22:33] <trism> Fjordside: the system monitor applet will show that if you enable it in the properties
[22:33] <BinaryMan> photocopy: tell firefox to open apt links with /usr/bin/apturl
[22:33] <Fjordside> i want letters not graphs...
[22:33] <killaxxl> balls
[22:34] <BinaryMan> photocopy: then click the link again
[22:34] <bastid_raZor> Fjordside: netspeed gives numbers no graphs
[22:34] <seren> having a problem running apps via ssh
[22:34] <seren> last night everything was fine and dandy now I get this
[22:34] <seren> http://pastie.org/787319
[22:34] <jellow> ikonia, Now nice little pop up appears when i save it , Where should i save it?
[22:34] <Fjordside> bastid_raZor, thanks I will look at it
[22:34] <gmendoza> gnome-netstatus-applet appears to also do the same stuff... all sorts of options out there it appears.
[22:34] <acr0nym> hi
[22:34] <seren> wehere are nfs locks located?
[22:34] <ikonia> jellow: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:35] <ikonia> seren: normally in the root of the share
[22:35] <seren> there is nothing is /var/lock
[22:35] <jellow> ikonia, ok done i think
[22:35] <seren> ikonia: the weird thing is in not using any nfs shares
[22:35] <jellow> ikonia, thanks =)
[22:35] <ikonia> seren: what is the problem you're having ?
[22:35] <seren> http://pastie.org/787319
[22:35] <seren> ikonia: it only occus when I run a gnome app vis ssh
[22:35] <trism> Fjordside: it will give you numeric values if you hover the mouse over it (probably not what you want though)
[22:36] <n16h7f0x> i have a problem using kubuntu karmic on my hp dv6 1341 el  Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)...have options snd_hda_intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=Y in modrpobe.d alsabase.conf and sonds hear like 50 percent like it should be all volume bars maxed
[22:36] <n16h7f0x> can anybody help me make my sound louder
[22:36] <ikonia> seren: tht's not an nfs problem
[22:36] <seren> ikonia: for example, nautilus, gedit, deluge
[22:36] <photocopy> BinaryMan: in the tutorial to setup apturl in firefox it says to add thigns to the about:config window. how do i add a new entry?
[22:36] <seren> ikonia: i figured i was just reading the error and assuming i think its dbus o gconf
[22:36] <ikonia> seren: dbus looks the most likley
[22:37] <seren> ikonia: everything is fine on the main x server
[22:37] <ikonia> seren: I think the remote X app is trying to create a dbus file on the local server
[22:37] <seren> ikonia: permissions?
[22:37] <ikonia> seren: possibly....
[22:37] <ikonia> seren: look at the file it's trying to use
[22:38] <seren> ikonia: doesnt exist
[22:38] <noXandOs> !samba
[22:38] <ikonia> seren: there is the problem then
[22:38] <ikonia> seren: and it appears it also can't create it
[22:38] <BinaryMan> photocopy: you don't need to.
[22:38] <seren> ikonia: should i touch it ?
[22:38] <DrWolfen> Hi!  I've been having trouble with getting Ubuntu 9.10 to boot.  Details are here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/359790/  Does anyone have any idea of what the problem is or how to fix it?
[22:38] <ikonia> seren: are you running the X11 apps as root ?
[22:38] <seren> ikonia: no
[22:38] <BinaryMan> photocopy: just click on the link for enemy territory.
[22:38] <seren> ikonia: it seems /tmp is 777
[22:38] <ikonia> seren: ooh really
[22:39] <ikonia> seren: as the user your running them as, see if you can touch the file
[22:39] <photocopy> binaryman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL says i do and those install links still don't work even after i installed apturl
[22:39] <seren> ikonia: i can
[22:39] <ikonia> seren: odd, as that appears to be the issue
[22:39] <CAPcap> T_T I cant seem to figure out how to get the msttcorefonts
[22:40] <seren> ikonia: is 777 correct for /tmp?
[22:40] <jellow> I have a fat 32 partition though i can only mount it as root , How can non-root users access it
[22:40] <ikonia> seren: sure
[22:40] <seren> ikonia: i touched the file and it still says connection refused ot the same socket
[22:40] <savid> Does anyone know how to extract a .sitx file on ubuntu?
[22:40] <giemini> jellow: sudo
[22:40] <DasEi> jellow: own the mountdir to regular user
[22:40] <ikonia> seren: can you try a none-gnome app, such as xterm
[22:40] <seren> ikonia: i did and it works fine
[22:41] <seren> ikonia: the file i touched is rw-r--r
[22:41] <photocopy> BinaryMan: I added those things to about:config and it appears to have worked. ET is installing now.
[22:41] <seren> should i chmod it ?
[22:41] <ikonia> seren: ok so I'm guessing it's the remote gnome file trying to connect to it's old dbus file on the remote sysstem, but on your local system
[22:41] <tfh> every time I select places->[any of my drives]  I have to type in my password, and then the drives ownership is root, how can I get this to be my user name?
[22:41] <militant> savid, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325374
[22:41] <BinaryMan> photocopy: good. shout if you have problems getting the game to work after its installed.
[22:41] <ikonia> seren: what ssh command are you using ?
[22:41] <jellow> DasEi, I tried sudo chown -R user:user still get Operation not permitted
[22:41] <photocopy> binaryman: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/pool/games/e/enemy-territory-data/enemy-territory-data_2.60b-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[22:41] <photocopy>   Could not resolve 'ftp-mirror.internap.com'
[22:42] <skull23> hey guys
[22:42] <seren> ssh $server -X
[22:42] <seren> i tried -Y too
[22:42] <henrih> hello. i happened to do 'apt-get upgrade' just a few moments ago after a long pause, but once i rebooted my system was no longer working. i get weird error messages like "Nautilus couldn't start because of blah" and the GNOME is completely unusable and it doesn't boot into it
[22:42] <Lenin_Cat> dose N wireless work in ubuntu
[22:42] <ikonia> seren: is X11 forwarding on the sshd_config ?
[22:42] <seren> ikonia: yes
[22:42] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: depends if the card has a module that supports it
[22:42] <DasEi> jellow: sudo chown  -r >jellow or whatever here< /mountdir
[22:42] <ikonia> seren: that should be enough then
[22:42] <savid> militant, yeah, I read that
[22:42] <giemini> tfh: chown
[22:42] <seren> ikonia: xterm and other x apps work fine
[22:42] <DasEi> jellow: sudo chown  -R >jellow or whatever here< /mountdir
[22:42] <militant> savid, so use the trial version of stuffit.  *shrug*
[22:42] <skull23> i came across a minor problem with ubuntu, i upgraded the update manager, now my internet isn't working , ( i' am on my xp laptop with the wired connection).
[22:42] <Lenin_Cat> ikonia, It dose, in windows I get 130mb/s but in linux I never get above 54mb/s
[22:43] <ikonia> seren: yeah, so it's just gnome->remotedbus
[22:43] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: windows support is not valid, depends if the kerne module supports N for that card, sounds like it doesn't
[22:43] <tfh> giemini, would chown  change the permissions going forward, ie every time I mount the drive?
[22:43] <jellow> DasEi,  On all the files i get  Operation not permitted
[22:43] <Raff7> hello :)
[22:43] <giemini> tfh: chwon changes file permissions permanently
[22:43] <Lenin_Cat> ikonia, I'm using ndiswrapper
[22:43] <alexandrooo_out> sera a tutti
[22:44] <DasEi> jellow: whats the mountdir ?
[22:44] <ikonia> again - that doesn't matter
[22:44] <tfh> giemini also, chown wouldn't change the fact that I have to put my password when I mount it through places->[my drive]
[22:44] <jellow> DasEi, I put it in /media
[22:44] <henux> hello. i happened to do 'apt-get upgrade' just a few moments ago after a long pause, but once i rebooted my system was no longer working. i get weird error messages like "Nautilus couldn't start because of blah" and the GNOME is completely unusable and it doesn't boot into it. how can i reinstall the base system without having to actually erase everything?
[22:44] <DasEi> jellow: no subdir ?
[22:44] <ikonia> henux: blah is not helpful, need the error message
[22:45] <giemini> tfh: do you have these drives  listed in fstab?
[22:45] <jellow> DasEi, not sure =/
[22:45] <henux> ikonia: i get multiple multiple error messages which i cant remember atm, what does it actually matter since you most likely cant resolve it
[22:45] <DasEi> jellow: mount tells you
[22:45] <seren> ikonia: im reinstalling dbus and dbus-x11
[22:45] <ikonia> henux: if you think it can't be resolved, why ar eyou asking
[22:46] <jellow> DasEi,  /dev/sda1 on /media type vfat (rw)
[22:46] <ikonia> seren: worth a shot, I'm a bit stumped by the behaviour to be honest
[22:46] <henux> ikonia: i was asking how to reinstall the base system without erasing everything, stop wasting my time and read
[22:46] <seren> ikonia: i saw some bugs on launchpad about same problem but no solution
[22:46] <ikonia> henux: drop the attitude,
[22:46] <imachine> ikonia, well dunno what's up with this thing. the problem is now when I add stuff to the deskbar, like a shortcut or smth
[22:46] <imachine> upon relogin
[22:46] <imachine> it's gone :/
[22:46] <KenBW2> is anyone else unable to play fulscreen video when compiz is activated?
[22:46] <Like> gg
[22:46] <imachine> ikonia, folders and other settings seem to save fine over reboot/ relogin
[22:46] <tfh> giemini, http://pastebin.com/d3be08a42 this is my fstab
[22:46] <seren> no change
[22:46] <imachine> ikonia, I think something's at hand with my skipping of those questionnares