[05:41] <Gentoon> Hello. I just dusted off an old desktop from 2007 I found in my garage
[05:44] <Gentoon> Installed the latest LTS package on. Id like to use it for a local cloud storage kind of thing where all my phones, tablets, laptops, etc can easily access it as network drive kind of thing. As well as have it stream some TV series and movies via DLNA to my smart TVs, phones and tablets. I'll get to the DLNA stuff later but as far as file sharing goes is a samba server the best bet? I kinda hate samba and would love it if there was
[05:44] <Gentoon> another alternative I can setup network drives in windows devices with as well as access from Android devices on my LAN?
[06:12] <alkisg> For file sharing with windows and android devices, samba is indeed the best
[17:53] <JanC> also depends if you want to share or sync or stream stuff...
[19:23] <moha> On a test lab, to deal with a special version of mariadb,  I have mirrored MariDB repos and added this line to the source list.d/mary.list: `deb [trusted=yes, allow-insecure=yes] http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/mariadb/ jammy main` --> But still it asks for adding `--allow-unauthenticated`!
[19:30] <oerheks> i find ' To make sure that you see a warning while using an insecure repository, better use allow-insecure=yes ' ...
[19:30] <oerheks> trusted=yes should be enough
[20:12] <JanC> moha: why do you need allow-insecure?
[20:13] <moha> looking for a solution to bypass `--allow-unauthenticated`
[20:14] <JanC> but why is it unauthenticated?
[20:16] <JanC> the right solution is to make sure it _is_ authenticated  :)
[20:16] <moha> it's a repo that has not been signed; in a lab env.
[20:18] <moha> The signing process should be done with Ansible that I'm not familiar with it well; The ansible playbook launches some LXC containers.
[20:20] <JanC> as oerheks said trusted=yes should be enough to disable warnings
[20:20] <JanC> also, you might need allow-downgrade-to-insecure=yes if the repository used to be authenticated in the past?
[20:22] <JanC> still, the best solution is to enable signing  :)
[20:22] <JanC> (signing of the Release file)
[20:36] <znf> why did they ever have to drop the legacy installer
[20:36] <znf> god f* damn it
[20:36] <znf> been trying for 2 hours to install 22.04 over a crappy IPMI
[20:36] <znf> downloading 1.4GB of ISO to network boot it is just dumb
[20:37] <oerheks> no need for such language, keep this channel family friendly, thanks.
[20:37] <znf> you try installing this crap for 2+ hours and tell me you're calm
[20:42] <JanC> one problem is that the ISO is so huge, of course...
[20:44] <JanC> there are some alternatives to netbooting the installer too, of course
[20:51] <JanC> IIRC about 1 GB of that 1.4 GB is firmwares...
[20:51] <JanC> well, 1GB uncompressed
[20:54] <JanC> alternatives = netbooting any debian/ubuntu-like live image & using debootstrap, or something similar
[20:54] <oerheks> server is used nowadays
[20:54] <oerheks> legacy mini iso gives issues.
[20:55] <JanC> which can be a problem as server images are huge noways...  :)
[20:57] <znf> never had issues with mini.iso for 10+ years
[20:57] <znf> I have no PXE environment in that datacenter, it's half-way across the world
[20:57] <JanC> it just bitrotted because nobody took care of it
[20:57] <znf> Virtual File booting from iDRAC fails
[20:57] <JanC> (it also was never officially supported, I think)
[20:57] <znf> trying to chainload ipxe works until it needs to remount iso
[20:58] <znf> guess my only actual option is to 20.04 mini.iso and then dist-upgrade
[20:58] <znf> but I'm not 100% sure that 22.04 has the driver required for my mellanox
[20:59] <JanC> znf: or if you can get to a shell from that, you can use debootstrap to install 22.04
[21:00] <JanC> instead of having to upgrade
[21:01] <znf> can't really boot shit that is large
[21:02] <znf> obviously, 20.04 mini.iso works just fine
[21:05] <JanC> if you can get a shell on that (or on any other live ISO based on Debian, or even any other linux), you should be able to install Ubuntu 22.04 using debootstrap
[21:06] <znf> I'll just install 20.04
[21:06] <znf> not gonna bother debootstrapping
[21:06] <znf> then I'll dist-upgrade
[21:06] <JanC> that's onyl a temporary solution, of course
[21:07] <JanC> you don't want to install 20.04 & upgrade 2-3-? times for future releases...  :-/
[21:09] <znf> I have to install 3 servers, I'm not gonna bother doing debootstrap 3 times
[21:13] <JanC> it might actually be faster...


[00:13] <roasted> Any reason why on my multi monitor setup new windows open on the wrong monitor?
[00:14] <roasted> hmm, active screen follows mouse seems to be a solution
[00:34] <roasted> Question - I used to have a hot corner screen edge where I would see all open windows. When I go to set it up, it's grayed out. Why would it be grayed out?
[00:41] <Dan001> #blender
[01:01] <Evpok> Hi. Anyone here who use custom xkb symbols?
[01:13] <roasted> my screen edges aren';t working. They're selectable, but hot corner doesn't work unless I choose something super basic like show desktop. Any idea hwy? It works on my laptop running the exact same thing - Kubuntu 12.04.1 w/ KDE 4.10
[01:25] <roasted> anything?
[01:25] <roasted> no?
[01:39] <iroh> i have two laptops. one is mine, one is my friends. i need to transfer my home folder onto her laptop so i can do a complete wipe of my disk and then reinstall ms and kubuntu. i do not have have a wifi router. i have 1 lan connection to the internet. both laptops have wifi, and a lan port and i have a crossover cable. can someone please refer me to a page, or site, or something that can help me transfer the folders?
[01:42] <ibiza> ciao
[01:55] <untitled> I just downloaded Ultimate Edition 3.5 is skype offered on it and it if it is where can i locate it
[02:05] <Quintasan> roasted: /home/roasted/.kde
[02:05] <Quintasan> you unpacked that and it crashed?
[02:05] <Quintasan> oh
[02:05] <Quintasan> wait
[02:05] <Quintasan> there are some symlinks in .kde iirc
[02:06] <Quintasan> I think you are intereseted in directories that are not symbolic links there
[02:06] <Quintasan> generally moving .kde SHOULD work
[02:06] <Quintasan> at least it does here
[02:09] <int_ua> 4.10 users, can you please confirm these two bugs? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314640 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308340
[02:25] <MyDadIsVeryRich> hello
[02:25] <MyDadIsVeryRich> my dad have a farm with pigs and is very rich
[02:25] <MyDadIsVeryRich> pigs are the best
[02:29] <int_ua> What is the right "Product" option for reporting bugs against plasma-widgets-addons ?
[02:29] <int_ua> on bugs.kde.org
[09:33] <Evpok> Hi. I have a bit of an issue with keyboard layouts: I use a customized (fr) xkb symbols file, and since I upgraded to Raring it is not loaded at startup anymore. I have to `setxkbmap fr -variant oss` it manually, and then the keyboard layout applet in the systray won't let me change the layout.
[09:36] <noaXess> moorning..
[09:36] <noaXess> Mamarok: hey hey..
[09:37] <chakkimatti> hey all
[09:38] <chakkimatti> I've ran into a snag with my Kubuntu. After two logins, it just seems to freeze on login. All I see a black screen and a mouse to play with :)
[09:41] <soee> chakkimatti, did you installed any extra display drivers
[09:42] <claus> hi
[09:43] <chakkimatti> soee:  no
[09:48] <soee> chakkimatti, what gpu ?
[09:49] <chakkimatti> soee: dunno really :) it's a built-in gpu on an old HP Compaq Dual Core
[09:49] <chakkimatti> I'm using multiple display monitors
[10:08] <chakkimatti> nah
[10:10] <chakkimatti> Trying to remedy my sstartup/login crash/freeze issue on Kubuntuu Quassel - help?
[10:12] <shadeslayer> chakkimatti: maybe #quassel can advise better
[10:12] <chakkimatti> sigh
[10:15] <noaXess> how can i print from console? need to analyse a print problem i have..
[10:18] <yossarianuk> kde 4.10 is absolutely awesome !
[10:18] <yossarianuk> its just that bity better than 4.9.x
[10:19] <yossarianuk> there is basically no reason for stickinig with 4.9.x
[10:20] <ArchangelSe7en> oh !
[10:20] <yossarianuk> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10
[10:20] <ArchangelSe7en> better than 4.9.x how ?
[10:21] <shadeslayer> more shiny, faster ( and the usual slew of new bugs for you to find )
[10:21] <yossarianuk> the workflow is better, the speed seems slightly better, the screen locker is better, the grouping functions are better...
[10:22] <yossarianuk> no bugs yet (used for 1.5 days home/work now)
[10:22] <shadeslayer> because they're hard to reproduce :P
[10:22] <ArchangelSe7en> nice .. I relly hope I could find KDE4.10 module for slax
[10:22] <ArchangelSe7en> really*
[10:22] <shadeslayer> kde bug 313145
[10:22] <yossarianuk> actually - there was one minor one... (old desktop icon cannot be moved unless you use the bar - ie i can;t just move an old icon by dragging the main icon)
[10:23] <yossarianuk> hmmm - bug not effecting me here ...
[10:24] <shadeslayer> did you set the oxygen border to "No Border"
[10:24] <yossarianuk> no - using plastik
[10:24] <shadeslayer> dunno if you can reproduce on Plastik
[10:25] <yossarianuk> I really wish the default theme was changed from air, after chooseing Limux it looks so so so much nicer...
[10:25] <yossarianuk> 'NewLimix'
[10:26] <yossarianuk> I suggest anyone who hasn't already check out that plasma theme...
[10:27] <ArchangelSe7en> *looks it up*
[10:27] <yossarianuk> Kubuntu's default theme is not pretty.... After changing it to 'NewLimux' it even impressed a Mac user.
[10:30] <yossarianuk> theme is - http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=155536
[10:33] <shadeslayer> yossarianuk: you mean KDE's default theme is not pretty
[10:34] <yossarianuk> shadeslayer: sort of - however I always notice that Arch linux kde seem prettier (out the box) than kubuntus
[10:34] <yossarianuk> and I think arch is pretty much vinilla
[10:37] <shadeslayer> Kubuntu is pretty vanila as well!
[10:38] <shadeslayer> that's one of the hotly contested points :D
[10:38] <shadeslayer> that we ship vanila stuff
[10:38] <lordievader> Kubuntu 13.04 looks nice right out of the box :)
[10:39] <yossarianuk> cool - really liking kubuntu now - I used to use it in the kde 3.x days - when 4.0 came out it was unusable....
[10:39] <yossarianuk> ungtil about 4.2
[10:40] <yossarianuk> I have convinced everyone in the office to use Kubuntu in the last year....
[10:41] <yossarianuk> Unity is not actually possible to work with (its o.k for a home system.)
[10:48] <AceKing> Can someone help me to change the panel so it's not transparent? I'm having a hard time seeing what programs are open.
[10:49] <yossarianuk> AceKing - changing theme would do it.
[10:49] <yossarianuk> air netbook for example.
[10:50] <AceKing> yossarianuk: Thank you! that did it
[10:52] <yossarianuk>  (although its transparant)
[10:52] <yossarianuk> ignore last comment..
[10:53] <shadeslayer> hm
[10:53] <shadeslayer> shouldn't happen, the default theme isn't transperent per se
[10:58] <wing_> hi there
[10:58] <wing_> hey yofel , are you there ?
[10:59] <Riddell> wing_: what's up?
[10:59] <wing_> i solved a problem got after upgrading kde to 4.10 version
[11:00] <wing_> its related to oxygen style missing after updating process
[11:00] <wing_> To anyone having this issue: delete ~/.config/Trolltech.conf , (credits to archlinux forum :p )
[11:01] <shadeslayer> heh
[11:01] <shadeslayer> that just sucks
[11:01] <shadeslayer> wing_: can you report a bug on bugs.kde.org?
[11:02] <wing_> yes of course , but please gimme steps to that :)
[11:06] <Riddell> wing_: go to bugs.kde.org, make an account, and follow the wizard to report a bug
[11:06] <Riddell> wing_: do ask if you get stuck at all
[11:06] <wing_> ok thank you , im going to do it now :)
[11:15] <wing_> hey Riddel, where to post the steps to solve the bug ?
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:15] <shadeslayer> wing_: in the bug description
[11:15] <wing_> ok thank you :)
[11:17] <shadeslayer> there are alot of fields in there, one of them is called "Steps to reproduce"
[11:18] <wing_> yeah but its just a step to reproduce it : just upgrade from 4.9.5 to 4.10
[11:18] <wing_> and solution is even simpler just delete a conf file , already filled and sent the report
[11:19] <wing_> thanks all , see ya
[11:19] <shadeslayer> the solution is not simple ;)
[11:19] <shadeslayer> wing_: can you give me the bug number?
[11:19] <wing_> yeah
[11:19] <wing_> 314662
[11:19] <shadeslayer> thx
[11:20] <wing_> let me know your opinion , is it enough detailed description?
[11:20] <shadeslayer> wing_: looks fine to me
[11:20] <wing_> thank you, gtg see ya all
[11:26] <mr0wl> hey, anyone else having an issue with kmix not starting after login?
[11:26] <mr0wl> i'm on KDE 4.10
[11:27] <shadeslayer> sigh, can you check if you can reproduce the issue with a new user?
[11:28] <mr0wl> okay, let me check
[11:47] <chakkimatti> hey. I'm running Kubuntu on  an old HP Compaq, Intel Dual core, ATI RV515 Radeon X1300 setup and after login Xorg freezes
[11:48] <chakkimatti> black screen and a mouse
[11:49] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | chakkimatti
[11:53] <chakkimatti> ubottu: how do i add that to my boot?
[11:53] <chakkimatti> haha :D
[11:53] <chakkimatti> good one
[13:28] <jussi> does muon handle pinning at all ?
[13:32] <yofel> jussi: the package manger has <package>->right click-> Lock at current version
[13:33] <yofel> which is guess is a dpkg hold
[13:33] <jussi> yofel: perfect! thanks very much
[13:33] <jussi> (Ive shadeslayer's modified auth handler for ktp and I want to keep it :) :D )
[13:34] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:55] <backjlack> sigh, the will it start or not game with krunner and dbus based things has resumed; everything works every other boot
[14:07] <Husar> anyone know good working radio shoutcast radio player?
[14:16] <Captain_Proton> is there a way to have the im message open when a new message come in? I look online and did not find anything
[14:17] <elx> help
[14:20] <Captain_Proton> elx, just ask your question
[14:26] <noaXess> whats the standard java on kubuntu 12.10?
[14:30] <shadeslayer> !info openjdk-7-jre
[14:30] <shadeslayer> noaXess: ^
[14:30] <shadeslayer> !info openjdk-6-jre | There's also this
[14:31] <noaXess> shadeslayer: ok.. needed to switch to openjdk-6, cause Synology DSM (Disk Station Management) won't work with 7
[14:31] <shadeslayer> okay :)
[14:31] <noaXess> don't know why it won't work with 7..
[14:33] <noaXess> shadeslayer: how to switch java versions? there is anything with update alternatives..
[14:33] <noaXess> don't remember
[14:33] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:33] <shadeslayer> probably
[14:33] <shadeslayer> I don't know enough about it
[14:33] <shadeslayer> !java
[14:34] <noaXess> ah.. ok.. thnks
[14:34] <noaXess> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[14:35] <Captain_Proton> noaXess: if you need sun java check http://www.webupd8.org/ they have a ppa
[14:35] <Captain_Proton> sorry wrong person :)
[14:36] <noaXess> Captain_Proton: why not.. maybe i aso test with sun java ;)
[14:37] <Captain_Proton> some thing just do not work right with openjdk
[14:39] <Captain_Proton> anyone know if there a way to have im pop up?
[14:39] <Captain_Proton> old toaster popup thing
[14:41] <Captain_Proton> LOL the sound in 4.10 remind me of bioshock :D
[14:43] <noaXess> ok..s trange... i need icedtea6-plugin with openjdk-7 to get it work in browser.. LOL.
[14:43] <noaXess> friday LOL
[14:43] <noaXess> seams that the icedtea-7-plugin is buggy
[14:43] <noaXess> or other stuff
[15:39] <oleg> we
[16:18] <serge> hi guys! i'am already installed libreoffice 4.0.0 and i want know how i can install this theme http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Helium+One+For+Libreoffice?content=145950
[16:43] <suesser_> hallo?
[16:44] <Ronalds_M> hi
[16:44] <suesser_> eigentlich mein erster Versuch mit irc.
[16:45] <IdleOne> !de
[17:20] <miebster_atwork> the fresh out of the box kubuntu 12.10 has an error in the .bashrc file http://bpaste.net/show/2UaNnPaS9mFbtM6BFGO3/ line 105
[17:28] <Ronalds_M> kde 4.10 rocks
[18:23] <Torch> miebster_atwork: submit a ticket on launchpad then
[18:56] <keithzg> So what's the best method for installing Kubuntu + Plasma Active on a Nexus 7, just to use the Ubuntu installer and then install the "kubuntu-active" metapackage?
[19:20] <GabMus_> hello
[19:20] <GabMus_> i have a big problem with kde 4.10 on kubuntu 12.04
[19:21] <GabMus_> after a kubuntu clean installation i decided to add kubuntu backports to install kde 4.10, but it started behaving strangely after i installed the nvidia experimental drivers
[19:22] <GabMus_> now when i login into a kde session i just see a black screen and the cursor
[19:22] <GabMus_> i am now writing from an openbox desktop
[19:23] <Captain_Proton> GabMus_: will the first thing is delete Xorg.conf in /etc/X11 < I think that will get your display back
[19:24] <Captain_Proton> or rename
[19:24] <GabMus_> ok ill try
[19:24] <Captain_Proton> GabMus_: then you can downgrade the Nvidia drive and try that
[19:26] <GabMus_> ok done
[19:26] <GabMus_> now what? try to login into kde session or reboot?
[19:27] <GabMus_> ok ill try to login... later
[19:28] <genii-around> Most likely is you don't have one of these three things already installed before trying to install the nvidia driver: build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) dkms
[19:29] <GabMus_> hello
[19:29] <GabMus_> again
[19:29] <GabMus_> still not working
[19:29] <Captain_Proton> GabMus_: you will need to reboot
[19:29] <GabMus_> mh
[19:30] <Captain_Proton> or restart x
[19:30] <GabMus_> ok, ill try
[19:30] <GabMus_> to restart system
[19:30] <GabMus_> later
[19:32] <GabMus_> still not working
[19:33] <Captain_Proton> I always had that problem with ATI Nvidia always seem to work ok
[19:33] <Captain_Proton> still black.. hhmmm
[19:33] <GabMus_> im using experimental drivers
[19:34] <genii-around> GabMus_: Most likely is you don't have one of these three things already installed before trying to install the nvidia driver: build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) dkms
[19:34] <Captain_Proton> GabMus_: uninstall them and reinstall stable then recreate the xorg.conf < also see what genii-around said
[19:35] <GabMus_> wut
[19:35] <GabMus_> please speak in an easier way
[19:35] <GabMus_> im not anglophone
[19:36] <james147> GabMus_: try running: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f kubuntu-desktop
[19:37] <GabMus_> er... ok, i'll try
[19:37] <GabMus_> this is my last hope
[19:38] <GabMus_> (not last but im getting nervous)
[19:38] <genii-around> GabMus_: eg: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) dkms  && sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-experimental   ( or nvidia-experimental-310  or -304 depending on which one you tried previously to install)
[19:38] <genii-around> I find it annoying that nvidia doesn't pull in dkms
[19:38] <james147> genii-around: the fact he has a login screen suggests that x and the graphics drivers are working
[19:39] <james147> sounds like plasma-desktop is not working to me
[19:39] <GabMus_> exactly
[19:39] <genii-around> james147: Yes, he removed his xorg.conf at Captain_Proton's suggestion, so it would probably be going to the next driver like vesa or such .
[19:39] <james147> GabMus_: does alt+f2 launch krunner?
[19:40] <GabMus_> dunno, im running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f kubuntu-desktop
[19:40] <GabMus_> so ill try later
[19:40] <GabMus_> g2g
[19:40] <GabMus_> later
[19:40] <genii-around> ( seeing as there would be no line now saying  Driver  "nvidia"
[19:40] <james147> genii-around: I thought the nvidia driver was used even without a xorg.conf these days?
[19:40] <Captain_Proton> genii-around: I am not use anything other then intel for awhile, but I that jockey pull that in?
[19:41] <genii-around> Captain_Proton: I have found it doesn't, unfortunately
[19:41] <Captain_Proton> I think it use the open source one "can think of the name now"
[19:42] <Captain_Proton> * Nouveau
[19:44] <Captain_Proton> From what I read it does well if you are not running games but for compiz and kwin it should work just fine
[19:44] <GabMus> ok
[19:44] <GabMus_> ill try loggin in now
[19:44] <GabMus_> later
[19:46] <ecks> hello, I managed to break my kubuntu 12.10 GUI by installing kde 4.10
[19:46] <Captain_Proton> I have to say 4.10 is great it fix alot of the crash I use to get
[19:46] <GabMus_> ok, im on kde, i used alt+f2 and apprunner launched
[19:46] <thechef> I use "Air" Theme and since upgrading to KDE 4.10 I no longer have blur - it seems
[19:46] <GabMus_> but still no desktop and no panels
[19:46] <thechef> How can I make sure I have blur?
[19:47] <GabMus_> kwin seems to work fine, im afraid plasma is not working
[19:47] <Captain_Proton> system settings> Desktop effects> all effects
[19:48] <thechef> Captain_Proton: "verwischen"?
[19:48] <GabMus_> guys?
[19:48] <ecks> so, whenever I boot into kubuntu I get a white screen
[19:48] <ecks> I can access tty through ctrl+alt+f1
[19:48] <ecks> any clues on how I should proceed?
[19:49] <GabMus_> ecks i suggest you to install openbox to have at least a desktop
[19:49] <ecks> GabMus_: funny thing is, networking is broken too
[19:49] <Captain_Proton> GabMus_: can you launch dolphin
[19:49] <thechef> Captain_Proton: well that one doesn't have any effect, it's already activated - maybe kwin recently thinks that my nvidia driver is not capable while it is?
[19:49] <GabMus_> Captain_Proton: yes
[19:49] <GabMus_> i can launch everything
[19:50] <GabMus_> please pm me, since i will get afk soon
[19:50] <GabMus_> and want to monitor the conversation
[19:50] <ecks> any help on fixing networking through commandline? :)
[19:50] <GabMus_> or join #help-GabMus_
[19:50] <Captain_Proton> GabMus_: well if you do not have any custom stuff just delete .kde in you home folder that should get you back to stock
[19:50] <thechef> I'll login in again - someKDE stuff just updated
[19:50] <GabMus_> i can also use the terminal for that
[19:50] <GabMus_> rm -r .kde
[19:51] <Captain_Proton> GabMus_: yup :)
[19:51] <GabMus_> done
[19:51] <GabMus_> reloggin later
[19:53] <GabMus_> still nothing
[19:53] <thechef> okay, blur works again - I just logged in again - probably fixed by some patches I just got
[19:53] <Captain_Proton> GabMus_: Wow
[19:54] <GabMus_> what?
[19:54] <GabMus_> is it so strange?
[19:54] <GabMus_> a friend of mine has the same problem
[19:54] <GabMus_> ill try with old nvidia driver... maybe it works
[19:55] <GabMus_> this is freaking me out
[19:56] <GabMus_> meh
[19:56] <GabMus_> g2g again
[19:56] <GabMus_> please keep writing on the other channel
[19:56] <GabMus_> #help-GabMus_
[19:56] <Captain_Proton> GabMus_: I dont think that the problem. You can try. I would check and see system settings> Desktop effects> advance and see what type compsizing type you are using
[19:57] <GabMus_> really, now ill go
[19:57] <GabMus_> later
[20:10] <GabMus_away>  /nick GabMus
[20:10] <GabMus_away> im back
[20:10] <GabMus_away> aaand
[20:10] <GabMus_away> i have to reboot
[20:26] <thechef> I'm having the problem that my workspace switcher is unaligned every time I log in - I have to remove it and add it again every time I log in. Anyone experiencing the same with KDE 4.10?
[20:30] <Captain_Proton> thechef: system settings> Startup and shutdown > Session Management > On Login chosse (Start with and emapty session)
[20:30] <Captain_Proton> thechef: try that
[20:34] <thechef> Captain_Proton: thanks - will try
[20:36] <thechef> Captain_Proton: didn't help..
[20:36] <thechef> I have to go now
[20:36] <thechef> ciao
[20:47] <kbana> what's happening homeboys? :)
[21:22] <Guest66181> salve
[21:22] <Guest66181> c'è qualcuno online che può aiutarmi?
[22:06] <away> great... installing kde 4.10 completely broke the GUI of kubuntu 12.10 :<
[22:21] <ArchangelSe7en> it is in itself the GUI
[23:27] <Walzmy_> So, ah... KDE 4.10 is pretty close to ugly
[23:29] <james147> Walzmy_: that is a matter of opinion :) but it is flexible enough to make it look how ever you want, some configurations out there are just dam sexy :)
[23:30] <Walzmy_> james147: well, I've been looking for two days and I can't make my taskbar so I can see anything, it and several other plasmoids are clear so the text is unreadable
[23:30] <Walzmy_> james147: and all my plasmoids now have this ugly white box around them
[23:30] <james147> Walzmy_: thats not the default ^^
[23:31] <james147> Walzmy_: it should look like this:http://img.netupd8.com/kde-4.10-wallpaper_fulldesk.png.png
[23:32] <james147> Walzmy_: What happens if you create a new user? does it also look bad on them?
[23:32] <Walzmy_> james147: emm, lemme see
[23:36] <Walzmyn> james147: looks right with new user
[23:36] <james147> Walzmy_: I suggest you try resetting plasma-desktops settings by renaming ~/.kde/share/config/plasm*
[23:37] <james147> then restart plasma-desktop (kquitapp plasma-desktop; sleep 1; plasma-desktop) or logout and back in
[23:37] <Walzmyn> james147: ok
[23:38] <Walzmyn> james147: thanks, I gotta go take care of kids
[23:44] <kronos> ciao
[23:44] <Guest92515> c'è qualcuno on che potrebbe aiutarmi?