[19:53] <ubuntu505> use a crontab entry and "wget" to run speedtest every hour
[19:54] <ubuntu505> start to use statistics on your provider to figure out what they are doing
[19:54] <littlebear> TheAmorphous: press history and scroll up, then in /var/log take a look at any errors
[19:54] <ubuntu505> anyone have any further help on my tray icon issue?
[19:54] <littlebear> ubuntu505: reinstall not an option?
[19:55] <LobsterAttack> Ubuntu via live CD was working great, but once I installed the OS it won't run at full resolution for my display... Can anyone help?
[19:55] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm so confused. I have a mpg2 file, with a subtitle and audio stream that I don't want. I am trying to extract the video (without reencoding it) but when I do, the subtitles end up hardcoded???
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> Seven_Six_Two  sounds more for #ubuntustudio, it's multimedia dedicated
[19:57] <Seven_Six_Two> alright, I'll give that a shot.
[19:57] <SlidingHorn> !resolution | LobsterAttack - have you been here yet?
[19:59] <LobsterAttack> ubottu: I get an error with that
[20:00] <LobsterAttack> Oh. :(
[20:01] <SlidingHorn> LobsterAttack, which command gives you an error, and what is the exact error?  Can you pastebin them?
[20:01] <LobsterAttack> A bot just messaged me in response to my question
[20:01] <SlidingHorn> LobsterAttack, I prompted it to respond
[20:02] <LobsterAttack> it told me to use sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[20:02] <LobsterAttack> command not found
[20:02] <bekks>  ?dm doesnt match lightdm
[20:03] <SlidingHorn> LobsterAttack, did you replace the "?dm" with your actual display manager?  (lightdm is the default for Ubuntu)
[20:03] <LobsterAttack> I did not
[20:03] <SlidingHorn> Try that
[20:04] <pax78> ciao
[20:05] <pax78> !lista
[20:05] <remii> lab
[20:07] <Smn> guys, I need a little of help. Is there a way in which to remove apps from the open with list
[20:07] <LobsterAttack> Who was I just talking to? :S
[20:07] <LobsterAttack> I tried to restart lightdm and it closed my chat app.
[20:07] <Smn> specially wine applications. wine explorer is even listed several times...
[20:07] <SlidingHorn> LobsterAttack, me - I'm about to step afk for about 15 min or so though...brb
[20:07] <LobsterAttack> oh
[20:07] <LobsterAttack> Can I PM you?
[20:09] <pax78> cioa
[20:09] <tilpner> I'm never going to learn this. I had everything working, then tried to get rid of screen tearing and now everything's broken. -.-
[20:10] <tilpner> Just to clarify, is it okay to have both 64-, and 32 bit drivers for nvidia, nouveau and radeon installed simultaneously?
[20:12] <newke> i have xubuntu 15.10 installed. every time i start my machine i hear crackling sound. i think it might be pulse audio issue, anyone else experience the same?
[20:12] <LobsterAttack> newke: possibly a buffer set too low?
[20:12] <tilpner> When I login, there's only my wallpaper and desktop icons, but nothing of the rest of Unity. It appears Compiz died on me, but... That Shouldn't Happen (tm).
[20:12] <MoPac> Hello. I've been wondering for a while what is going on with the unity dash search when I pull it up and start typing. There doesn't seem to be any consistent behavior, especially from the "home" tab. Sometimes it is near-instant and sometimes crawls. Sometimes it's finding both apps and files (desired), sometimes only one.
[20:12] <MoPac> And often, I can start (or even finish) typing the name of something (especially an app), and it won't be found -- indefinitely. But if I backspace a character or two, suddenly it may show up -- even though all the characters were a perfect match. Is this kind of behavior common?
[20:14] <newke> LobsterAttack: how do i check it?
[20:17] <LobsterAttack> While running Ubuntu from a live cd everything was working correctly, but once installing I can't change my resolution to the proper setting. Can anyone help?
[20:21] <logan_> hy
[20:22] <Guest57587> it's my first time on irc
[20:22] <Guest57587> italian guys?
[20:22] <bazhang> !it
[20:24] <tilpner> "CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry...."
[20:24] <tilpner> You're not helping, Ubuntu. :(
[20:25] <LMKY> I just installed linux, what should I know? :)
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> !manual | LMKY start here
[20:26] <LMKY> sounds good thanks
[20:26] <LobsterAttack> ubottu is very smart
[20:26] <jwtiyar> hey
[20:26] <wizzkidd> i have messed up some files on my ubuntu server 15.10.  I incorrectly symlinked some "libz*" files, then unlinked them, and now my system is throwing up "segmentation fault" errors.  I am not able to boot the server any longer, and I have managed to get to a root prompt using the recovery option in the grub menu.  It seems Python is broken i think, and "libz.so.1" cannot be found either.  I am unable to run any apt-get command beca
[20:26] <_nemesys> your creator is intelligent ubottu
[20:29] <LobsterAttack> Anyone know anything about display driver issues in Ubuntu?
[20:29] <tilpner> LobsterAttack - "They're rarely fun."
[20:30] <LobsterAttack> tilpner - no kidding
[20:30] <LobsterAttack> But the mystery is...
[20:30] <LobsterAttack> Worked perfectly on a live CD version of Ubuntu.
[20:30] <LobsterAttack> And during install.
[20:31] <LobsterAttack> But post-install, I'm limited to a ludicrously small resolution.
[20:36] <SlidingHorn> LobsterAttack, did you visit the second link in !resolution?
[20:37] <jwtiyar_>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER jwtiyar_
[20:39] <jwtiyar> how i can 20 pics from 40 pics ? with one select ?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  sophisticated password!
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  how can you what, whith one select?
[20:41] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, i have 40 files i want to delete 20 in one time not selecting one by one
[20:42] <NEXUS-6> Have anybody problems with the last java upate on ubuntu 15.10? I have problems with netbeans
[20:43] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, in windows i can but in ubuntu i cant select these just with pressing and hold the right click because there no space to start the selection
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  and how do you make the pc know which files have to be deleted?
[20:43] <OerHeks> jwtiyar, select the 1st, hold shift and arrow down to select more
[20:44] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, i want to make a select just by holding right click till finish slecting
[20:44] <hexhaxtron> I play the electric guitar. How can I play it together with a remote friend?
[20:44] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, this will do seecting one by one
[20:45] <OerHeks> to get a better view, press in the right top corner view icons as grit
[20:45] <LobsterAttack> SlidingHorn: can you post it again?
[20:45] <SlidingHorn> jwtiyar, can't you just hold ctrl+click each one?
[20:45] <jwtiyar> OerHeks, this will do seecting one by one
[20:45] <SlidingHorn> !resolution | LobsterAttack
[20:46] <jwtiyar> SlidingHorn, i think u dont understand what i mean i will post an atachment pic of my case
[20:46] <OerHeks> jwtiyar, no, hold ctrl to select manually with the mouse, i just found it
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> that's how do it always
[20:48] <LobsterAttack> SlidingHorn: still not showing my the right resolution at all
[20:49] <Exagone313> Hi, I want to lie to the hostname command. I tried to use an alias to echo xxxx, but when I run for example hostname aaa it prints "xxxx aaa" and not just "xxxx". What do I do? Thanks for helping.
[20:49] <Exagone313> without changing path if possible
[20:50] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, OerHeks sorry i got another problem when i make a screenshoot the screen will white and i cant do anything
[20:50] <SlidingHorn> LobsterAttack, are you sure you went all the way through all that information so quickly & tried what was applicable?
[20:51] <jwtiyar> OerHeks, with mouse click i have to do it one by one not whole
[20:51] <LobsterAttack> xrandr shows a "maximum" resolution of my monitor than I know what it is, so...
[20:51] <LobsterAttack> Dunno what else to do at this point SlidingHorn
[20:51] <akik> Exagone313: you could try "sysctl -w kernel.hostname=test". no guarantees
[20:52] <OerHeks> jwtiyar, hold ctrl to select manually with the mouse, i just found it
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  set the view to 'icons', then you can select them with the mouse (just tried and works)
[20:52] <Exagone313> ok I just replace /bin/hostname, just easier...
[20:52] <SlidingHorn> LobsterAttack, the page linked in that message tells you how to fix that, specifically: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[20:53] <Exagone313> maybe unsafe way
[20:53] <Cinnamon> good day everyone, I had the following strange case with usb drive: it was decrypted and mounted, and a file on it was opened. then I couldnt save the file because the folders were suddenly shown with a lock symbol. and then the same folders became shown as empty (more correctly, the subfolders were disappearing each time I went to a parent folder). at the same time the drive was shown as locked (encrypted) back, without me having done anything,
[20:53] <Cinnamon>  yet was also shown as a second additional partition mounted at '/dev/mapper/luks..' (where the folders disappeared) I was not able to decrypt the drive again at this moment, even though the password was correct. then I restarted the machine, and this time decryption was possible, and all files and folders were there, yet as 'read-only'...can someone please help me know what happened or what this all might be about?
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> Cinnamon  an encrypted drive?
[20:54] <Cinnamon> MonkeyDust, yes, it is a luks drive
[20:55] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, i selected sizes so all big are in last so i want select from smallest big to biggest size this will not work just by holding mouse and going down to last one its one by one i have to click each picture because there is no in the place to start the selection by mouse
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  and the view is set to 'icons'?
[20:56] <SlidingHorn> jwtiyar, right click somewhere in the space between folders & go to Arrange items > sort by size?
[20:56] <Cinnamon> MonkeyDust, in short, the folders first became 'unpermitted', then disappeared, while the mounted partition was shown, on one side, as locked back, and, on the other, as mounted at /mapper, with said state of folders
[20:57] <Exagone313> it's ok i found a way
[20:57] <Cinnamon> and at restart all folders were read-only
[20:57] <AlexPortable> Does /etc/hosts supports wildcards?
[20:57] <AlexPortable> so for example complete /24 range
[20:57] <LobsterAttack> SlidingHorn I have no idea what the output is even called and that article doesn't explain how to find out.
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> Cinnamon  i'm unfamiliar with luks or encryption, that's why i asked
[20:58] <jwtiyar> SlidingHorn, MonkeyDust , u have any windows os now ?
[20:59] <Cinnamon> MonkeyDust, ah, ok, no problem, thank you all the same!..maybe someone here can help
[20:59] <akik> Exagone313: usually it's nice to tell the solution to others too
[21:00] <Exagone313> I use docker, and I found the solution with it
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  no need, i can select files with one mouse move, so it should work for you too
[21:00] <Exagone313> because it blocks to edit the hostname apparently
[21:00] <HL521> How can I figure out if there is driver support for the xDuoo TA-01 USB DAC/Amp?
[21:01] <HL521> Uses Wolfson WM8470 chips
[21:02] <ph8> Hi all
[21:02] <ph8> I have a samba mount in my /etc/fstab - but it never mounts on boot. Running a mount -a after i'm booted up sorts it - does anyone have any idea what option or setting i might need to remedy this?
[21:03] <SlidingHorn> LobsterAttack, please provide the output (will be a link) of:       xrandr -q | pastebinit
[21:03] <akik> ph8: i use this line "//server/share /home/username/share cifs user,_netdev,cache=none,credentials=/home/username/.cifs-credentials 0 0"
[21:03] <akik> ph8: mounts automatically
[21:03] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, how u do it ? there is no space any where u start with mouse have file , i wanted you to test it and understand what iam saying , its been been two years i have this problem
[21:04] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, this my files are aranged http://postimg.org/image/qwn37irnr/
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  i guess we're not talking about the same thing... which file manager are you using?
[21:05] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, i want to delete from .cr2 file to end with one time holding right click till finish and then delete not selecting one by one
[21:05] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, stock one
[21:05] <ph8> akik, the _netdev is new, any idea what that does?
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  is that the name of the file manager, 'stock one'?
[21:05] <LobsterAttack> SlidingHorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13533157/
[21:06] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, no i mean the ubuntu it self file manager Unity
[21:06] <akik> ph8: "The filesystem resides on a device that requires network access (used to prevent the system from attempting to mount these filesystems until the network has been enabled on the system)."
[21:06] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, you saw the pic ?
[21:07] <ph8> ah amazing, thanks!
[21:07] <akik> ph8: i managed to make the mount under systemd too but it's way too much work
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  i saw it... that's not nautilus, what is it?
[21:08] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, its nautilus
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  ok, set the view to 'icons'
[21:10] <LobsterAttack> SlidingHorn: any ideas?
[21:10] <OerHeks> told that too: to get a better view, press in the right top corner view icons as grit
[21:10] <SlidingHorn> LobsterAttack, just a moment...
[21:10] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, this is what iam talking about :)
[21:10] <TJ-> Cinnamon: reading up on your experience I'd suspect the USB device had an I/O error which caused the underlying raw device to become unavailable, and the GUI tools saw a cached version of the file system, which is why directories/files 'disappeared' once the tools needed to re-read the device
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  yes, you can delete the files in icon view
[21:11] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, but i select icons the order will become corrupted
[21:11] <Guest93333> list
[21:11] <Guest93333> \list
[21:12] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, i made them by size so i want to delete from.cr2 files and till finish but seting to icons will misalign them again i cant delete woth one time
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  in icon view it's ordered horizontally, but the order stays the same
[21:12] <OerHeks> Guest93333, all torrents are here :-P http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[21:12] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, i got it thank you bro
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> *phew*
[21:13] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, this is too much noisy ubuntu should make view to icons and then sizes in default
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  not for one person's preferences
[21:13] <Cinnamon> TJ- but everything is back now, after I restarted the machine. yet read-only
[21:13] <akik> is there a setting which would tell ubuntu not to shutdown the network interface until all network mounts have been unmounted?
[21:13] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, this is default in every where
[21:14] <jwtiyar> MonkeyDust, thank you again
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> jwtiyar  happy to help
[21:15] <Cinnamon> TJ- and the drive had shown no errors when I ran badblocks on it (though just for 2 passes, yet I heard that it'd likely be reliable)
[21:16] <scrat`> test
[21:17] <jwtiyar> how i can upgrade by USB ?
[21:19] <AlexPortable> How do I get the /etc/hosts file to actually work?
[21:19] <TJ-> Cinnamon: I'd check /var/log/kern.log around the time the issue happened, and work backwards in the log, for any indication of events related to the USB mass storage device
[21:20] <TJ-> Cinnamon: read-only mount would likely be due to file-system errors causing a remount,ro option to take effect
[21:20] <SlidingHorn> LobsterAttack, ok, so just to summarize: you used a liveUSB/CD and the resolution was fine.  Now, you have a fresh install with only a very low resolution?  If so, have you come across this in your search? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2267514&p=13238154#post13238154
[21:21] <SolyHit> hi
[21:23] <kubast2> Hey which driver would you use on trinity apu ?
[21:23] <kubast2> xserver-xorg-video-ati or fgrlx-updates ?
[21:30] <Cinnamon> TJ- I checked kern.log, and found errors like these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13533559/
[21:31] <Cinnamon> the time stamps correspond to the interval when the problem occured
[21:31] <Gazorpazorp> Hey, I have a 4gb sdcard, but fdisk says that it has only 10mb.
[21:31] <Gazorpazorp> I have seen that particular card having 4gb in the past
[21:32] <Gazorpazorp> http://pastebin.com/6b0HCqBr
[21:32] <Gazorpazorp> kernel conf and fdisk printout
[21:33] <daftykins> Gazorpazorp: probably the reader
[21:33] <daftykins> try another if you can
[21:35] <Gazorpazorp> other sdcards are shown with the right size in this reader, I dont have another reader right now
[21:35] <daftykins> what's the card used for?
[21:37] <Gazorpazorp> dd'ed an image of a windows dvd to it inbefore
[21:38] <daftykins> but it's not from a camera or similar?
[21:38] <Gazorpazorp> then wipefs -a 'ed the thing
[21:38] <Gazorpazorp> it maybe was in a camera some time
[21:38] <Gazorpazorp> but I have used it as 4gb card after it was in the cam
[21:38] <Gazorpazorp> cam was a canon powershot a710
[21:40] <daftykins> i'd throw it back in and see if the camera can make head nor tail of it?
[21:44] <Gazorpazorp> the cam is dead, gone look for another one
[21:53] <Exagone313> Hi, I have Ubuntu 14.04, I try to install the package sqlite3 that depends on libsqlite3-0 (= 3.8.2-1ubuntu2) but 3.8.2-1ubuntu2.1 is installed and it fails. What do I do? Thanks for your help.
[21:54] <Tumulte> Hello !
[21:54] <Tumulte> how do I force pulse audio to be stereo... instead of 5.1 (I only got this profile)
[21:55] <TJ-> Cinnamon: "usb 1-1: reset high-speed USB device number 2 using ehci-pci" would be the device disconnecting. Everything else would stem from that.
[21:56] <dfrey> How do I upgrade to a version other than 15.04.  I am on 14.04 and I want to get to 15.04, but I have read that you have to upgrade to 14.10 first.
[21:56] <daftykins> dfrey: that's correct
[21:56] <daftykins> !eolupgrade | dfrey follow the last link in this factoid
[21:57] <OerHeks> better do a fresh 15.10 then
[21:58] <Gazorpazorp> dfrey: On Ubuntu installs I document and archive my customizations in system and have /home on a separate partition, that saves a lot of updates woes. I can clean install and keep everything
[21:59] <dfrey> Back in the day, debian was known for being reliable through upgrades.  Perhaps that is not true of Ubuntu anymore.
[22:00] <OerHeks> dfrey, not fair, you have chosen 14.04 lts ( 14.04.3 by now)
[22:00] <Exagone313> here is an output of apt-get install sqlite3: http://ewd.xyz/FftZxZIdpvFYLOo
[22:02] <Gazorpazorp> How is the general smoothness of release upgrades on ubuntu nowadays? Havent upgraded anything since 11.04 and 12.04
[22:02] <daftykins> Exagone313: can you state "cat /etc/issue" and also "apt-cache policy sqlite3" ?
[22:02] <daftykins> Gazorpazorp: i tend to stick to LTS to avoid upgrades :) never believed in them
[22:04] <cotix> Is there a way to report bugs when you dont run ubuntu?
[22:04] <Gazorpazorp> daftykins: they mostly broke a lot of things, system was very unstable afterwards back then. Only release upgrade that really was perfect is debian wheezy to jessie
[22:04] <daftykins> cotix: how would you know of any? :)
[22:05] <Gazorpazorp> cotix: either to the developer of the package or your distros people
[22:05] <cotix> I had to install Ubuntu server, and the installation process was horrible
[22:05] <cotix> Its the ubuntu installer
[22:05] <cotix> rescue mode is broken if you boot from usb
[22:05] <cotix> there is no way to controll where grub is installed
[22:05] <cotix> it defaults to installing it on the usb
[22:05] <Gazorpazorp> cotix, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[22:05] <cotix> even though i made a partition mounted to /boot
[22:06] <daftykins> separate /boot is very antiquated and has nothing to do with GRUB placement
[22:06] <daftykins> anywho you can always drop to a shell and do it by hand :) which if you're installing server, you're more than likely to be competent with
[22:06] <cotix> I couldn't because the rescue mode was broken
[22:06] <cotix> so i couldnt get a shell
[22:06] <daftykins> cotix: may i ask which version though? i can spin that up and test it
[22:06] <cotix> newest
[22:07] <cotix> try installing from an usb
[22:07] <daftykins> so 15.10 64-bit server?
[22:07] <cotix> grub will be installed on the usb
[22:07] <Gazorpazorp> is the image corrupt? did you check hashes?
[22:07] <cotix> I mean the LTS
[22:07] <daftykins> ok so 14.04.3 64-bit server?
[22:07] <cotix> yes
[22:07] <Exagone313> it's ok I used another source lists from my interver provider
[22:07] <daftykins> rightyo, and how did you prepare the USB drive?
[22:07] <Exagone313> thanks anyway
[22:07] <daftykins> Exagone313: ok must've been an out of date repository
[22:08] <cotix> when you select rescue mode using live usb it says it cant find ubuntu cd
[22:08] <Exagone313> archive.ubuntu.com
[22:08] <daftykins> cotix: right but how did you prepare this USB flash drive with the ISO?
[22:09] <daftykins> Exagone313: ok but if that was a VPS sometimes those can be intercepted
[22:09] <cotix> with the recommended methode that ubuntu.com told me to
[22:10] <cotix> live usb thingy
[22:10] <daftykins> alrighty, i'm grabbing that ISO so i'll give it a test
[22:10] <daftykins> ubuntu-14.04.3-server-amd64.iso is the one
[22:11] <finexbeer> cuno italiano??
[22:12] <daftykins> !it
[22:12] <d31anon> o
[22:12] <d31anon> hello
[22:12] <Gazorpazorp> hi
[22:12] <finexbeer> hello
[22:13] <d31anon> can i give one question?
[22:13] <daftykins> sure
[22:13] <daftykins> ask away :)
[22:13] <Gazorpazorp> finexbeer, can read it a bit but not form sentences at all. try in the ubuntu-it chan or write it anyway
[22:14] <d31anon> is it backbox is ubuntu too
[22:14] <finexbeer> whats in the ather software (software and aploud) the 2° point??
[22:15] <daftykins> d31anon: we do not support backbox here, sorry
[22:15] <daftykins> !backbox
[22:17] <daftykins> cotix: i get some error console output from booting recovery mode from the menu ("repair a broken system") but after a loading delay, it comes up with the language select text menu just fine
[22:17] <skweek> does anyone have a good backup solution for me to use to backup some directories from disk to SD card?
[22:17] <daftykins> cotix: are you familiar with hashing your download to ensure it wasn't corrupt?
[22:18] <daftykins> skweek: i would not consider an SD card to be any form of viable backup, worse than a cheap USB flash drive in fact
[22:18] <skweek> doesn't cp have an option to copy files based on time settings?
[22:18] <skweek> its all i've got daftykins and its a temporary solution
[22:18] <skweek> but I agree with you
[22:18] <daftykins> whilst unfriendly, the man page might say so - otherwise i'm sure rsync would have such a feature
[22:19] <daftykins> how temporary? :)
[22:19] <EriC^^> skweek: rsync -av /path/to/source /path/to/backup
[22:19] <m0tz> is there a way to install ubuntu on a dell inspiron 3421? can't find any useful site on google...
[22:20] <skweek> thanks EriC^^
[22:20] <EriC^^> np
[22:20] <skweek> like a month
[22:20] <bprompt> m0tz:   shouldn't be any different than installing on any other x86 box
[22:22] <m0tz> bprompt: it seems there's no way to setup bios to boot it...
[22:22] <Gazorpazorp> skweek, are the files confidential? if not extremely then encrypt your backup and upload it to some free hoster like gdrive, dropbox, mega, wahtever
[22:23] <bprompt> m0tz:    hmmmm is the usb bootable?   have you ever booted to usb anything before?
[22:24] <skweek> not really they aren't really... so will rsync -av /source/foo /dest/foo check the last modified date of files and only preform updates?
[22:24] <m0tz> yes, it is. Yes, do this kind of thing very often...
[22:25] <bprompt> m0tz:    then I don't see why the ubuntu usb wouldn't boot :), chances are the burning didn't go well I'd think
[22:28] <mschurenko> hey. can anyone see this?
[22:29] <mschurenko> not sure if my irc client is working properly
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> mschurenko  use a different font color to be more visible
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> mschurenko  that was a joke, yes, we see you
[22:30] <londoncalling> yeah we can't see it if you write in invisible ink sorry
[22:30] <mschurenko> Thanks MonkeyDust :)
[22:30] <londoncalling> :D
[22:31] <zzo38> How do I check if newer Ubuntu packages are compatible with my computer without damaging anything?
[22:31] <zzo38> I want to install the newer SQLite and Swiss Ephemeris packages
[22:32] <zzo38> (My computer does not even have a Swiss Ephemeris package)
[22:32] <badbodh> stick to official repos, compatibility ensured
[22:33] <zzo38> I think it is the official Ubuntu packages, but it is a newer version of Ubuntu.
[22:34] <badbodh> which version ?
[22:34] <bprompt> zzo38:    make a backup, try the newer package :), if it's a no-go, then put the backup back :)
[22:34] <badbodh> btw regular softwares don;t need to be compatible to your hardware in general. drivers and kernels need to be compatible
[22:35] <zzo38> I want the newest versions of SQLite and Swiss Ephemeris. However I have SQLite version 3.8.11 and Ubuntu version 12.04.5.LTS
[22:35] <daftykins> no wonder they're old :)
[22:36] <zzo38> This software I don't to worry about the hardware compatibility but I want to ensure it is compatible with the software I have on my computer!
[22:37] <sylwek> what abaut ISIS
[22:37] <bprompt> zzo38:    as badbodh suggested, stick to the repositories.... latest for 12.04 is 2.8.17   as far as I can tell, so, 3.8.11 may need newer libraries that may be shared by other packages that may not be compatible with it, either that, or 3.8.11 simply won't install
[22:38] <badbodh> if you want latest and greatest all the time switch to a rolling release distro. ubuntu freezes its packages before release to ensure nothing breaks and keeps receiving security updates.
[22:38] <zzo38> Yes that's what I wanted to know about. Is it better if I just compile those program by myself?
[22:38] <badbodh> then you may break dependencies. compile at your own risk.
[22:39] <badbodh> you can easily upgrade to newer versions by update-manager
[22:39] <Gazorpazorp> sylwek, the ancient goddess or the crazy dogs in middle east
[22:40] <badbodh> Gazorpazorp, feeding trolls strictly prohibited in this zoo
[22:40] <Gazorpazorp> badbodh, kk
[22:40] <regum> hello everyone
[22:40] <daftykins> hi
[22:41] <regum> I'm running ubuntu and instlled a debian package
[22:41] <zzo38> The new version of SQLite is compatible with the old one though
[22:41] <regum> it's broken everyting
[22:41] <regum> How can I revert to the good old days?
[22:41] <daftykins> regum: you'd find it far easier to clean install i should think, what package?
[22:41] <badbodh> regum, remove the debian package
[22:42] <regum> badbodh, userland
[22:42] <regum> daftykins, that is an option, but I'd rather try to fix it, it's extremely tedious to fresh install
[22:42] <bprompt> zzo38:     it depends on what the packages uses, if 3.8.11 is simplly going to update the libraries for 2.8.17, and not touch any other shared libraries by other packages, then, sure, compiling it and installing from there would work, but often times that's not true for newer packages, they may require newer versions of some shared library, that may break other package(s)
[22:42] <zzo38> They always ensure to make it compatible. Also this package manager does not even have Swiss Ephemeris so I think no program depend on that package. I would prefer to install the package but if I cannot I could install by myself, but then I might get a extra copy
[22:44] <zzo38> I am pretty sure that SQLite does not require newer versions of some shared library and break others, but that might not necessarily be true of the Ubuntu package for SQLite; I don't really understand all of these Ubuntu package
[22:44] <badbodh> regum, once you remove the 'debian package' you speak of, you can do "sudo apt-get install -f" to fix
[22:44] <regum> badbodh, I'll try that now
[22:44] <daftykins> i don't think that's going to help but ok
[22:46] <badbodh> daftykins, let's first figure out how much destruction, with popcorn and beer
[22:47] <daftykins> oh you can :)
[22:47] <daftykins> by all means!
[22:47] <zzo38> Also I wrote some programs that might be useful to someone so can you add such packages into later version of Ubuntu possibly? All such program is free software and open source and public domain software.
[22:47] <Gazorpazorp> daftykins still here?
[22:47] <daftykins> that i am
[22:47] <badbodh> regum, if any error, copy/paste output in pastebin.com , share url here
[22:47] <zzo38> But, maybe it does not meet your policy I don't know
[22:48] <regum> ok, I'm still on it
[22:48] <Gazorpazorp> daftykins, is there any other method to restore an sdcard to normal state? I have 2 camers in reach, one is bricked, the other was in the car for months and the proprietary batterie is dead
[22:48] <daftykins> no charger?
[22:48] <daftykins> Gazorpazorp: given how cheap they are i wouldn't put much effort toward it personally.
[22:49] <daftykins> Gazorpazorp: you could try sharing the output of "sudo parted -l" which is slightly different to fdisk, or just try sending some data to it to kill the partition table
[22:49] <regum> badbodh, it didn't fix it
[22:49] <Gazorpazorp> daftykins, the battery is dead dead. Lithium battery that was empty at -5°C. Yes, just bought a bunch of them, but they propably arrive on monday
[22:50] <regum> I really don't want to do a fresh install, configuring the thing is hell
[22:50] <daftykins> Gazorpazorp: why the hurry then? :)
[22:50] <daftykins> regum: only if you start trying to throw debian packages on the wrong distro ;)
[22:51] <badbodh> regum, share output on pastebin
[22:52] <Gazorpazorp> daftykins, I need one for a phone that doesnt work without one
[22:52] <LonelyDanbo> How do I narrow down whether my motherboard chipset overheating is a motherboard issue or some kind of issue with Ubuntu? I bought a replacement motherboard of the same brand but with high ratings. It overheats when I play videos or games.
[22:52] <regum> badbodh, it's a camera that doesn't work, it did before, but I wanted to use a package with it and it now won't work as it did before
[22:53] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: why do you think it's the motherboard and not the graphics card (if there is one) or the CPU itself? or why overheating at all?
[22:53] <LonelyDanbo> I thought maybe the games were due to it being through Wine and somehow it's not going directly to the video card, because I'm... not sure Wine does ... is it nVidia that's the alternative of ... I got the one that's better with AMD.
[22:54] <regum> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/KARDi4Lu
[22:54] <daftykins> regum: i'm not the one currently assisting you
[22:54] <zzo38> Can you please tell me if my program are against your policy to add into your package manager?
[22:54] <regum> oh sorry
[22:54] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, because I put my finger on all of them and only the motherboard chipset is burning hot
[22:54] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: could you describe what happens when you're playing games?
[22:54] <regum> I got mixed up with names
[22:54] <badbodh> regum, we really don;t know about your camera or why you tried to use the mentioned package. let's focus on fixing your broken system.
[22:54] <regum> badbodh, http://pastebin.com/KARDi4Lu
[22:55] <regum> well, yeah, but that's the error I get
[22:55] <daftykins> zzo38: volunteers only here, not officials
[22:55] <badbodh> first tell us what symptoms made you think you got broken system ?
[22:55] <regum> well it worked before, I installed that package that had to do with the camera and now it doesn't work
[22:55] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, the chipset gets hot really quick, and if I play full screen for a few hours performance decreases, framerate drops, and eventually it locks up if I'm playing all day.
[22:55] <badbodh> any freeze, crash, install/uninstall problem
[22:56] <miroesq> I am running ubuntu server bc a software compatability issue. i am trying to install a program, but it is telling me to install libpq devel or equivalent. my seraches have only turned up libpq5, but installing that still gave me the same issue. does anyone know what this libpq devel is?
[22:56] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: ok, can you open the terminal and run "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999" so we can identify your graphics hardware? it'll create a link for you to paste here
[22:56] <zzo38> daftykins: O, sorry, who am I supposed to ask then?
[22:57] <zzo38> O, I didn't know termbin.com
[22:57] <daftykins> zzo38: i think there's a packaging channel, however <your timezone> on a Friday night / Saturday morning may not get much of a response :)
[22:57] <badbodh> regum, looks like you are missing camera firmware.
[22:57] <regum> yeah
[22:58] <badbodh> we can;t really help you with that.
[22:58] <auronandace> !packaging | zzo38
[22:58] <regum> I think that the package I installed has added dependecies to it or something
[22:58] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, http://termbin.com/eg1b
[22:58] <regum> but I can't run that firmware
[22:58] <badbodh> regum, what made you think your system is broken ?
[22:59] <sudo3> hi guys, i have dnsmasq where i addedd my zones and it work well for site without ssl but for site with ssl it resolves via google dns any ideas?
[22:59] <regum> badbodh, it worked before, I installed that package that had to do with the camera and now it doesn't work
[22:59] <regum> badbodh, it didn't ask me for anything like that before
[22:59] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: ok so nvidia GTX 660 graphics, does your new motherboard have an actively cooled northbridge chip (is there a fan on it?) or is it a passive heatsink? (no fan)
[23:00] <badbodh> regum, look into /var/log/apt , there will be some log files which tell you what got installed with your 'thing'
[23:00] <badbodh> remove them one by one
[23:00] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, there's no fan on it.
[23:00] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: ok and do you happen to have the make and model of board beside you right now?
[23:01] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins,  yup. Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
[23:01] <regum> badbodh, only apt-get shows up there
[23:02] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: excellent, have you at any point installed "lm-sensors" and had a glance at what the temperatures are like? if not do so now and then run "sensors | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:02] <regum> I coned the userland repo and used their buildme
[23:02] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, I HAD been using a Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P . It had a larger heatsync for the northbridge chip, but still no fan.
[23:02] <regum> cloned*
[23:02] <hispeed67> just connected tv to laptop via HDMI, how do i tell ubuntu studio to use it?
[23:03] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: i would say that it is a very big stretch that it has anything to do with your problems, they *always* run hot
[23:03] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, http://termbin.com/bflu I just got done playing a game. It's still uncomfortably hot but not too bad.
[23:03] <badbodh> regum, them i'm afraid re-install is the only way. you don;t know what changes you made, no way to track them down. we can;t fix it.
[23:03] <elisa87> hey I get this error even though my JAVA_HOME is set by another script, any idea how this could be fixed? http://pastebin.com/ff3eJ5Pr
[23:03] <badbodh> that's why use caution before using a third-party repo
[23:03] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: hmm there's not actually any useful information from that, can you try running "nvidia-settings" and look for a temperature value in that?
[23:03] <regum> thanks for the help
[23:04] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, what always runs hot? motherboard chipsets? then why aren't there coolers for them?
[23:04] <regum> I do feel like this shouldn't be able to happen though
[23:04] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: there is - and you're looking at it, they just don't need any active cooling :)
[23:04] <daftykins> i can pretty much guarantee you the fault lies elsewhere
[23:04] <badbodh> regum, next time you play with unofficial repos, make sure you keep a track of things you do. in case you need to revert your changes
[23:05] <utu8o> is there a user friendly app on Ubuntu like Filezilla Server on Windows?
[23:05] <regum> badbodh, I used their buildme, that's all
[23:05] <akik> utu8o: openssh-server
[23:06] <utu8o> does that have a user friendly GUI?
[23:06] <akik> utu8o: no
[23:06] <Twinkletoes> server 14.04, I'm trying top prevent ssh from running at startup, but after running udpate-rc.d -f ssh remove, and rebooting, ssh is sitll listening on port 22
[23:06] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, nvidia settings says my temp is 31C
[23:06] <Twinkletoes> How do I prevent ssh from starting auto at boot?
[23:06] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: ok so the graphics card is alright. install "mesa-utils" then run "glxgears" and watch that temperature, see how high it goes
[23:07] <daftykins> Twinkletoes: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56753/how-do-i-disable-sshd-from-starting-automatically
[23:07] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, looks like it's already installed. not sure how to run it.
[23:08] <utu8o> akik, so i guess the easiest way would just be to use Windows as the host over ubuntu
[23:08] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: either from a spare terminal window, or type it into dash top left (if this is a unity desktop)
[23:08] <Twinkletoes> daftykins: Thank you for that!
[23:08] <LonelyDanbo> mesa-utils command not found.
[23:08] <daftykins> np :)
[23:08] <akik> utu8o: if your need is to install a file server, openssh-server fits the bill perfectly
[23:08] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: no 'glxgears' is the program provided by the package 'mesa-utils'
[23:09] <jophish__> right, I'm back
[23:09] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, shot up to 36C but now quickly going down to 33C
[23:10] <jophish__> I"ve reinstalled the nvidia driver and am still getting "the system is running in low graphics mode"
[23:11] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: i would say it'd be handy if you could try another OS on this same system if possible (such as a temporary Windows install on a spare hard disk) which would help point the trouble away from software, but i would be more inclined to think it's PSU related (power supply)
[23:11] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: you could give ##hardware a go, as it's more on topic for them - but obviously only assuming my guess is even close.
[23:12] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, I'm paranoid about using Windows. I was really hoping to avoid it. I feel like it's a security risk to have it.
[23:12] <daftykins> just don't go online and watch porn, you can keep it just as long as to test whilst remaining totally offline if you have game discs.
[23:12] <badbodh> regum, moot point is you installed package that's not in the repos, don;t do that if you can;t fix things yourself. sorry we couldn;t help.
[23:12] <utu8o> LonelyDanbo, true, but Windows is so user friendly it makes life easier
[23:13] <jophish__> On this topic, I tried a windows install and didn't have any graphics problems
[23:13] <jasabella> hi :) im trying to use expert install mode in ubuntu server lts cd and it keeps going through things automaticall?
[23:13] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: if you were playing around in the case before the problem first occurred, static damage could be a factor too... but that's a huge stretch.
[23:13] <regum> badbodh, I appreciate your help, I'm frustrated at ubuntu really, it's a pain in the ass to set it all up again
[23:13] <daftykins> jophish__: i doubt that's what you did between now and earlier ;)
[23:14] <jophish__> daftykins: ah, I meant earlier, before we started chatting
[23:14] <badbodh> regum, then don;t do rash things :) carelessness leads to pain. ubuntu or not.
[23:14] <LonelyDanbo> Also like... the new Windows versions ... are a mess. I heard they fixed it in 10 but... then I've also heard people just had them break on their own and have to go back to previous versions.
[23:14] <daftykins> jophish__: :) have you booted in to purge nvidia* again yet?
[23:14] <regum> badbodh, it wasn't rash, it was the only way to use the camera
[23:14] <jophish__> daftykins: I've done that a few times now already
[23:14] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: discussion on Windows isn't apt for this channel, it is a suggestion which will let you isolate the problem quickly (assuming you know how to set up Windows) so it's up to you.
[23:15] <utu8o> i'm surprised that Android has way more user friendly apps than Ubuntu even though Ubuntu started long before Android and apps are also free... i guess Android is more friendly towards app developers
[23:15] <badbodh> regum, then you should contact the developer of that package or camera manufacturer for ubuntu compatibility
[23:15] <jophish__> ah, Xord.failsaf.log has some interesting errors
[23:15] <jasabella> how do i get into expert install on the dvd?
[23:15] <jasabella> er cd
[23:15] <daftykins> utu8o: no, you can just make a lot of money on android...
[23:15] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, well the previous board I snapped the heatsync off while holding the board by it... I ended up replacing the thermal paste with stuff from like 10 years ago... maybe it was too thin because I heard that's what you do, but it was originally attached by a BLOCK of this stuff.
[23:15] <jophish__> http://termbin.com/dq6g
[23:16] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: i'm honestly telling you that thinking that is the cause is 100% false, it is something else most definitely
[23:16] <daftykins> jophish__: remind me, this was the hybrid graphics laptop yeah?
[23:17] <jophish__> daftykins: as far as I know, yes
[23:17] <LonelyDanbo> well... maybe I'll keep trying this new board and see if it screws up the same way. :(
[23:17] <badbodh> what kind of camera needs third party software to work? most can be just plugged in and work like a flash drive
[23:17] <jophish__> I've booted with 15.10 at least once before
[23:17] <daftykins> jophish__: ok can you pastebin "ls -al /boot" ?
[23:17] <jophish__> sure thing
[23:17] <daftykins> badbodh: ones that don't support the UVC standard
[23:17] <jophish__> http://termbin.com/lms3 daftykins
[23:18] <badbodh> daftykins, that means "not my bloody job - yours faithfully, ubuntu"
[23:19] <daftykins> badbodh: no, it means "Linux works well with cameras that support the UVC standard"
[23:19] <dotpixis> ?
[23:19] <LonelyDanbo> I had been reading about how to use nVidia graphics cards in Wine with my games and I got the impression that ... it doesn't work properly. changing settings to Direct3D allows it to fully utilize features. So I figured all graphics were running through the system instead of directly to the video card.
[23:19] <dotpixis> depends on the system
[23:19] <badbodh> well, we need standards
[23:19] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: try a Linux native game, to rule out wine, or try Windows as i mentioned.
[23:19] <daftykins> badbodh: we have them - and the one you bought does not adhere to them.
[23:19] <dotpixis> as linus torvald said "Fuck you Nvida"
[23:20] <LonelyDanbo> hm. native Linux game.
[23:20] <daftykins> jophish__: you can run "sudo apt-get autoremove" to get rid of that -16 kernel
[23:20] <LonelyDanbo> hah. well it's a bit late for me to replace all my hardware.
[23:20] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: yeah, do you have a steam account?
[23:20] <badbodh> dotpixis, at least use **** when quoting the big guy
[23:20] <LonelyDanbo> no Steam.
[23:20] <badbodh> you'd be kicked otherwise
[23:20] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: nobody suggested replacing hardware just yet :)
[23:21] <dotpixis> badbodh: okay, i'm not gonna curse, but i'm not one to change a quote...
[23:21] <badbodh> feel free to censor a quote
[23:22] <badbodh> we got kids here. leaves bad impression
[23:22] <jophish__> daftykins: interestingly now I'm not getting a cursor, which I only seemed to get while running the nvidia driver
[23:22] <dotpixis> i won't be quoteing Samuel L. Jackson here...
[23:22] <jasabella> is ubuntu expert install supposed to autodetect network settings?!
[23:23] <daftykins> jasabella: can you be more specific, which ISO are you using?
[23:23] <daftykins> dotpixis: please take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic :) this channel is for support only
[23:23] <badbodh> should detect ethernet, not sure about wi-fi
[23:24] <daftykins> jophish__: did you run that command and reboot already? there wasn't any need to.
[23:25] <jophish__> daftykins: there's not too much else I can do at the moment :)
[23:25] <daftykins> jophish__: can you remind me of the laptop make + model?
[23:25] <daftykins> yes but when you take too long to get back to me after a simple command, you take too long
[23:25] <daftykins> er, heh repeated myself.
[23:25] <dotpixis> jasabella: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo | advanced setup
[23:26] <jophish__> sure, it's a dell xps 15 9530, daftykins http://termbin.com/abfk
[23:27] <jophish__> that's dmidecode
[23:27] <daftykins> jophish__: do you have a service tag you could share at all? feel free to PM it since it's a tad more sensitive, or i'll try and fudge my way through the Dell site if you'd rather not.
[23:30] <jophish__> daftykins: I'm happy to navigate sites, although I'm not sure what to look for
[23:31] <daftykins> yeah it's kinda quicker for me to do direct :)
[23:31] <LonelyDanbo> I've been having trouble with my old DVD drive. It uses IDE instead of SATA. I was hoping this new motherboard that actually supports old IDE would fix the issue because I had to use an external card on the last motherboard. A DVD disc I put in is not showing up on the left sidebar thing.
[23:31] <daftykins> jophish__: so just the one kernel is in /boot now, so we've got that covered...
[23:32] <jophish__> daftykins: yup
[23:33] <LonelyDanbo> Hm... I have something called "sr0". Any chance that's my DVD drive?
[23:33] <daftykins> jophish__: can you run "dpkg -l | grep bumble" and tell me if it gives any result / nothing?
[23:33] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: it is, sr0 = optical drive
[23:33] <jophish__> daftykins: nothing
[23:33] <LonelyDanbo> ok. good. So ... maybe the drive is just dead.
[23:34] <jophish__> optimus, prime, bumblebee, I'm detecting a pattern here
[23:34] <daftykins> jophish__: good stuff, can you try the second section in the reply for: http://askubuntu.com/questions/691946/how-to-solve-black-screen-problem-after-installing-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-15-1
[23:34] <daftykins> yeah hybrid graphics on Linux is not easy.
[23:34] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: possibly, if the BIOS could boot an ubuntu DVD in there, that'd prove it or not potentially
[23:35] <jophish__> daftykins: install the packages from the graphics-drivers ppa?
[23:35] <LonelyDanbo> hm... sudo lshw -C disk reported a -cdrom status=nodisc. :(
[23:35] <daftykins> jophish__: yeah the three commands then reboot suggested, adding the PPA... installing nvidia-355 and nvidia-prime blah blah
[23:37] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: it's possible the jumper setting on your drive is not in the correct position for the point the ribbon cable plugged into it is at.
[23:37] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: since PATA ribbons have 3 points, a jumper setting of 'master' must be at the end of the cable, 'slave' is the middle - and 'CSEL' or cable select can be either.
[23:37] <LonelyDanbo> daftykins, would a slave/master difference stop it from reporting a disc is present? I used this before. I thought even in a *nix OS.
[23:38] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to check, but if it were wrong your BIOS would not detect the drive
[23:38] <LonelyDanbo> I think under CrunchBang. on a really ancient motherboard.
[23:38] <LonelyDanbo> but Ubuntu reports I have the drive.
[23:38] <daftykins> yeah, it's a weak try but worth a mention.
[23:38] <daftykins> anyway as i said boot media would rule out it being ubuntu
[23:39] <LonelyDanbo> huh. So a small possibility that Ubuntu could detect it despite the BIOS not detecting it, and this might cause it to be unable to read discs
[23:40] <LonelyDanbo> are you sure northbridge chipsets heatsyncs are supposed to be so hot you can't hold your finger on it for more than a few seconds?
[23:40] <daftykins> no you just need to fault find from the lower levels first :>
[23:40] <jophish__> daftykins: I'm sorry to report no change :(
[23:40] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: 100% sure... 20 years of hardware experience behind that comment.
[23:40] <LonelyDanbo> ah.
[23:40] <daftykins> jophish__: did you say you've got Windows on a dual boot setup on here?
[23:41] <jophish__> daftykins: yeah there's a windows installation
[23:41] <daftykins> jophish__: nice, ok did you see the comments beneath that post on the askubuntu page?
[23:41] <LonelyDanbo> I wish I could hook up a jumper cable from the chipset to my CPU heatsync. It's actually warming the CPU heatsync on the corner closest to it.
[23:41] <daftykins> one user says "i had to use nvidia-352 instead" and also "i had to run sudo prime-select intel before reboot"
[23:41] <jophish__> daftykins: so you're thinking it is some hardware switch
[23:42] <jophish__> that got set to some odd value when I did the REISUB
[23:42] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: i think you need to stop running your hands over everything :P you do know about static right?
[23:42] <daftykins> jophish__: no not even close :)
[23:42] <jophish__> hah, ok!
[23:42] <LonelyDanbo> static's bad even on heatsyncs?
[23:43] <daftykins> well you're poking your hands around in there ;)
[23:44] <LonelyDanbo> I heard PC parts weren't that sensitive to static, and that people paranoid about touching components and connectors with their hands was all for nothing most of the time.
[23:44] <Gazorpazorp> LonelyDanbo, daftykins: On new and important computers or those I handle for other people I am more paranoid about static
[23:45] <LonelyDanbo> Rick & Morty reference name.
[23:45] <Gazorpazorp> LonelyDanbo, daftykins: For my old parts and tinkerstuff I dont give a damn about static and it never resulted in any problems
[23:45] <jophish__> daftykins: this is my xorg.failsafe.log http://termbin.com/3kki From my googling this seems to be symptomatic of an issue with the intel driver
[23:46] <daftykins> jophish__: have you been in the EFI and checked whether there are any graphics options for picking device / anything at all?
[23:46] <daftykins> LonelyDanbo: yes and no, carelessness can definitely cost
[23:47] <daftykins> and some people are more staticy than others (seriously)
[23:47] <jophish__> daftykins: checking now
[23:47] <Gazorpazorp> LonelyDanbo, daftykins: a lot of intel laptop boards have their cpu safety shutoff temp at 100°C, with an EC that doesnt really bother to turn up the fan before 90°C
[23:47] <daftykins> Gazorpazorp: LonelyDanbo's is an AMD system.
[23:47] <bprompt> LonelyDanbo:     had a flatbed scanner once, the twain drivers were saying that there was some error, I checked the cabling, scanner was fine, cable was fine, reloaded the drivers, OS was fine, and the twain drivers were still throwing the connection error, in the end the fix was, "unplug the usb cable from the pc for 30secs, plug it back in", then it worked, issue was built-up static in the cable plug
[23:47] <jophish__> daftykins: nothing in the bios
[23:47] <Gazorpazorp> LonelyDanbo, daftykins: and the worst ones have cpu and gpu on the same heatpipe while the gpu cant handle 90-100 that good
[23:48] <daftykins> jophish__: ok, did you try purging the 355, trying again with the 352 and issuing the earlier prime-select command before reboot?
[23:49] <daftykins> Gazorpazorp: that'd be a laptop, this is a desktop - totally irrelevant i'm afraid.
[23:50] <jophish__> daftykins: I tried that without installing the older driver, trying the purge/reinstall now
[23:50] <daftykins> rightyo
[23:50] <Gazorpazorp> LonelyDanbo, daftykins: my amd 890fx board with fan and extra southbridge heatpipe. it is roomtemp on the board itself, the cpu goes from 40-70°C depending on fan setting and the heatsinks get hot but not burning hot
[23:52] <bumblefuzz> so, I'm using an apple magic mouse
[23:52] <daftykins> i understand your input, but you might be in the antarctic whilst LonelyDanbo could be in $somewhere_hot :)
[23:52] <bumblefuzz> and I'm trying to set up natural scrolling
[23:52] <LonelyDanbo> Nah. I'm in Canada.
[23:52] <daftykins> the specifics miss the point ;)
[23:52] <bumblefuzz> it works fine with the trackpad but I can't get ther mouse to do natural scrolling
[23:53] <LonelyDanbo> Maybe I need to get my case fan blowing in the side, half of it hitting the northbridge heatsync.
[23:53] <daftykins> case cooling is always important, yes
[23:53] <LonelyDanbo> then maybe move the CPU fan on the other side closer to the exhaust port so I don't have to put a 2nd case fan blowing out.
[23:54] <LonelyDanbo> I hear exhaust is more important than input
[23:54] <daftykins> however spending time on this hypothesis of yours when i've provided steps to take to fault find, is really just wasting all of our time
[23:54] <daftykins> yes.
[23:55] <daftykins> don't mess with the fan on the heatsink, also take this topic to ##hardware if you wouldn't mind
[23:55] <LonelyDanbo> I installed Steam but I need to make an account.
[23:55] <jophish__> hmm, booting is taking a lot longer this time
[23:55] <Austin__Wall> Having a weird issue where text is partially missing on some menus
[23:55] <Austin__Wall> http://imgur.com/a/q1QW4
[23:56] <LonelyDanbo> Native Linux game {Steam} or Windows was your suggestion.
[23:56] <sebsebseb> hi
[23:56] <daftykins> correctamundo
[23:56] <daftykins> hi
[23:56] <Austin__Wall> Running ubuntu 15.04
[23:57] <daftykins> Austin__Wall: graphics hardware + driver?
[23:58] <Austin__Wall> I'm using the default ubuntu graphics driver. I had the nvidia one but after a reboot the system was unable to find any screens
[23:58] <daftykins> ah har, can you share a "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999" ? it'll create a URL to paste here.
[23:59] <Austin__Wall> Me?


[17:52] <bluesabre> the hardest part is done, can actually work with multiple active players and updates on changes :D http://imgur.com/a/guwXE
[17:52] <bluesabre> still some just gotta plug in the buttons and widget events now
[17:52] <bluesabre> wow, I'm terrible at backspacing :D
[19:22] <ochosi> bluesabre: oh wow, that looks awesome!
[19:25] <Unit193> Except he keeps linking to the album and I get lost. :(
[19:42] <ochosi> bluesabre: if you need testing or whatever input lemme know
[21:16] <ochosi> bluesabre: merging the "mute" menuitems into the audio-icon on the left could be nice (as we did for the pulseaudio plugin)
[21:17] <ochosi> but anyhow, i'm excited to test (and to create a repo for it on git.xfce)
[21:17] <bluesabre> :)
[23:16] <Unit193> bluesabre: What exactly is it, btw?  A fork of pa-plug, or based off of it..?
[23:17] <bluesabre> Unit193: additions to pa-plug
[23:17] <bluesabre> so, a fork for now
[23:17] <bluesabre> ideally, will get rolled in :)
[23:17] <Unit193> Yep, indeed!
[23:22] <ninetls> I hope Andrzej will make a new release at least :D


[01:11] <Ellipsis> I'm trying to clean install Lubuntu here.
[01:11] <Ellipsis> I unsuccessfully attempted to install Crunchbang++ earlier, and have found myself stuck on a GNU Grub 2 prompt.
[01:12] <Ellipsis> I can't get my computer to attempt to boot from the USB anymore, and am looking for some help
[23:39] <guest2> In terminal what is diferents between Uxterm and Xterm ?
[23:41] <wxl> guest2: it's a pretty minor nuance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xterm#Customization
[23:42] <wxl> guest2: i use rxvt-unicode-256color personally
[23:45] <guest2> I think the diferents are minimal then and i can use same commands in both.


[00:06] <plain-user> I just lost all sound
[14:01] <raven> hi
[14:02] <raven> i am going to buy a new audio interface
[14:02] <raven> any advices?
[17:38] <Zero_Chaos> This is a bit OT, but does anyone know a really good usb soundcard that works in linux? I figured you all might know.
[19:18] <Qjimbo> Hey all
[19:20] <Qjimbo> I'm considering moving to ubuntu studio for music production, however I have a lot of software instruments/samples in Knotakt nki/nks format, just wondering if it's possible to use these on Ubuntu Studio?
[19:20] <Qjimbo> *Kontakt


[02:28] <veebers> babbageclunk: will juju version always be major.minor.patch? when we release 2.4 will it be 2.4.0 or 2.4?
[02:29] <veebers> anastasiamac: ^^?
[02:30] <anastasiamac> veebers: yes, always... 2.4.0 :)]
[02:30] <veebers> awesome, cheers anastasiamac :-)
[02:30] <anastasiamac> veebers: nws
[02:40] <veebers> gah, I can't just take a 2.4-beta2 jujud, repackage it as 2.4-beta3.*.tgz and have a streams entry as 2.3-beta3 right? the actual upgrade will fail as it'll check the `jujud version` I presume?
[02:42] <babbageclunk> veebers: you can put a force-version file in there, which will change what jujud version reports
[02:42] <veebers> babbageclunk: oh, tell me more. Is that put in the agent tarball?
[02:43] <babbageclunk> look at what's in the directory when you do upgrade-juju --build-agent
[02:43] <babbageclunk> hang on, I'm just looking myself
[02:44] <babbageclunk> yeah, it's FORCE-VERSION
[02:45] <babbageclunk> veebers: https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/develop/version/version.go#L36
[02:47] <veebers> babbageclunk: awesome thanks! I'll incorp into the functional test
[02:48] <babbageclunk> yeah, I think it just needs to be included in the tarball - if you search for FORCE-VERSION in the codebase you can see where upgrade-juju --build-agent includes it.
[02:57] <veebers> much appreciated (damn I tried finding that strongbad vid but couldn't find it)
[03:15] <babbageclunk> appriciated?
[03:16] <veebers> babbageclunk: my search only comes up with the technology introduction one
[03:19] <babbageclunk> veebers: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail53.html
[03:20] <veebers> babbageclunk: you're a star!
[03:20] <babbageclunk> thanks hrwiki.org, you saved my bacon again!
[03:20] <veebers> ah and it's such a milestone vid too!
[03:20] <veebers> hah
[05:11] <vino> babbageclunk: hi I have the remaining unittests and addressed the review comments.
[05:14] <babbageclunk> vino: ok, taking a look now
[05:14] <vino> sure.
[05:18] <veebers> babbageclunk: hah I'm vying for your attention too :-) I've finally pushed the upgrade CI test updates for the agent-stream PR if you could take a look when you can (and addressed your comments too)
[05:18] <babbageclunk> veebers: ok, will do
[06:04] <babbageclunk> hey veebers, I have to go and help wrangle the animals now, I'll loook at your PR first thing tomorrow, sorry!
[07:11] <veebers> babbageclunk: no worries, good luck with the wranglin'
[08:55] <ice9> when i bootsrap localhost, it throw error about unknown certificate authority and it doesn't create the controller!
[11:04] <BlackDex> Hello there. I have an environment with juju 1.25.13 (not able to upgrade now) and i have several sub-charms (nrpe) running, which aren't beining removed. I tried several times to do remove-relation, but they are still there. No action is taken it seems
[11:04] <BlackDex> i Also tried to restart the jujud-unit-nrpe on these nodes.
[11:04] <BlackDex> no effect
[12:58] <CG__> hi..
[12:59] <CG__> am using jenkins charm..
[12:59] <CG__> when i do $juju gui --browser
[12:59] <CG__> it opens up a browser, and am looking to change the UI
[12:59] <CG__> please suggest how to
[13:06] <BlackDex> change the UI?
[13:07] <CG__> yes, am looking to modify/change the UI
[13:07] <BlackDex> of juju web-interface?
[13:08] <BlackDex> i think you should take a look at https://github.com/juju/juju-gui
[13:08] <CG__> yes correct
[13:09] <BlackDex> and the juju-gui is located on the system where you installed the controller
[13:09] <BlackDex> so where  you bootstraped juju to
[13:09] <BlackDex> https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/blob/develop/docs/hacking.md
[13:09] <BlackDex> is what you are looking for i think
[13:11] <CG__> not exactly. Have tried that as well.
[13:12] <CG__> am planning to develop my own UI
[13:15] <ice9> is possible to deploy charms (model) on one lxc container or each charm must have it's own container?
[13:20] <BlackDex> ice9: Why do you want to deploy multiple charms in one container?
[13:21] <BlackDex> kinda defeats the purpose of containers
[13:55] <ice9> BlackDex, if they are small services that you want to keep on one container only
[14:04] <BlackDex> but why do you want to keep them in one container? containers don't use much resources, so i do not see why you want to merge those :).
[14:04] <BlackDex> But it is possible
[14:06] <BlackDex> just use `juju deploy cs:charm application-name --to 0/lxd/1` where you need to change the 0/lxd/1 to the correct machine id
[14:06] <ice9> when i try to create a juju controller i get this error
[14:06] <ice9> "x509: certificate signed by unknown authority (possibly because of "crypto/rsa: verification error" while trying to verify candidate authority certificate
[14:07] <BlackDex> never saw that before
[17:12] <ice9> how to specify ubuntu version when creating controller?
[17:13] <bdx> ice9: juju help bootstrap
[17:14] <bdx> ice9: `juju help <any-juju-command-you-want-help-with>`
[17:22] <ice9> bdx, it's not clear in the help about which option can do that
[17:23] <bdx> ice9: juju help bootstrap | grep series
[17:23] <ice9> thanks
[17:23] <bdx> np
[19:18] <[Kid]> anyone had issues with juju deploying openstack on hosts that have shared storage?
[19:19] <[Kid]> specifically fiber channel multipathed storage
[19:19] <[Kid]> i am using conjure and juju is failing at provisioning the osd container
[19:19] <[Kid]> hook failed: "mon-relation-changed" for ceph-mon:osd
[19:20] <[Kid]> and it is saying it cannot lock the device that is one of the paths to my shared storage
[19:21] <[Kid]> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y6Hh758CPQ/
[20:43] <veebers> Morning o/
[21:36] <babbageclunk> ok veebers, looking at your PR now!
[21:37] <veebers> babbageclunk: excellent, thanks!
[22:06] <babbageclunk> veebers: approved! (with a couple of minor comments)
[22:07] <veebers> \o/ thanks babbageclunk
[22:07]  * babbageclunk highfives veebers
[22:08] <veebers> o/*\o
[22:12] <babbageclunk> oh thanks
[23:54] <veebers> babbageclunk: so, to test the early error (arg not support on ye old controller) I need a MockAPIConnection and try get a upgradeJujuCommand command that uses that (and set the bestFacadeVersion)?
[23:54] <veebers> babbageclunk: oh, or do I patch the s.APIState in the test (api.Connection) so that BestFacadeVersion returns the value I want?
[23:55] <babbageclunk> veebers: yeah, basically - I think we should have something that does it, since it's a reasonably common kind of test for the API clients
[23:55] <babbageclunk> Hang on, just having a look
[23:58] <veebers> babbageclunk: awesome thanks, I had a look but the one thing I can find that does what I want (cmd/juju/machin/remove_test.go) doesn't mesh with the upgrademodel_test.go stuff that is currently there


[17:26] <Shridhar>  hello
[17:27] <Shridhar> i am thinking of installing my php applications of ubuntu server
[17:27] <Shridhar> i wnat to know
[17:27] <Shridhar> that
[17:28] <Shridhar> i develop database applicaitons but i am unable to serve my clients as hosting provieders give less site loading speeds so the applications becomes useless
[17:28] <Shridhar> i want fast server so i am thinking of making my own server
[17:29] <Shridhar> and i am thinking ubuntu
[17:29] <Shridhar> but i dont understand how i need to do that
[17:29] <Shridhar> how to setup the server
[17:30] <Shridhar> i get material from internet but its huge
[17:30] <Shridhar> i want to know it first in general
[17:30] <Shridhar> so i will understand it exactly
[17:30] <Shridhar> i think
[17:30] <Shridhar> ..
[17:31] <Shridhar> thnks