[00:00] <kc2bez> The blackscreen might be plymouth or did you mean before that?
[00:01] <guiverc2> grub 'black' text screen - plymouth was as expected
[00:02] <kc2bez> I don't know if I feel confident enough to change it to grub, I was just throwing it out there.
[00:05] <kc2bez> This >< close
[00:14] <kc2bez> guiverc2: I am going to check another flavor in a bit to see if others are having an issue as well.
[00:15] <guiverc2> if you'd like me to do one, please just ask.
[00:16] <kc2bez> It couldn't hurt if you have time, I can do Kubuntu if you want to pick a different one.
[00:16] <guiverc2> I'll try xubuntu
[00:16] <kc2bez> sounds good
[00:34] <kc2bez> Kubuntu passed but their manifest shows a different grub version than us: grub2-common	2.04-1ubuntu10 vs grub2-common	2.04-1ubuntu11
[00:45] <kc2bez> looks like kylin is the only other version with 2.04-1ubuntu11 right now.
[00:46] <wxl> can we upgrade grub before the install?
[00:46] <kc2bez> on our live? or another flavor?
[00:46] <wxl> live
[00:47] <kc2bez> I can try
[00:47] <guiverc2> fyi: my xubuntu is still writing to thumb-drive; not yet at testing phase
[00:55] <kc2bez> I installed grub-efi-amd64-signed manually but the install still failed.
[00:55] <kc2bez> The version numbering looks strange
[00:57] <kc2bez> !info grub-efi-amd64-signed eoan
[00:57] <kc2bez> !info grub-efi-amd64-signed disco
[00:57] <kc2bez> eh nvm
[01:11] <guiverc2> finally xubuntu finished install; no issues but apt-cache policy does say 2.04-1ubuntu10 as you mentioned kc2bez
[01:13] <wxl[m]> !info grub-efi-amd64-bin eoan
[01:14] <wxl[m]> Hmmm
[01:15] <wxl[m]> The error seems to suggest a problem with that package but it seems to all match up. I'm confused
[01:16] <kc2bez> me too
[01:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL94f46c7ee892: Add compression method field] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL94f46c7ee892
[01:17] <wxl[m]>  /pool/main/g/grub2/grub-efi-amd64-bin_2.04-1ubuntu10_amd64.deb
[01:18] <wxl[m]>  /pool/main/g/grub2-signed/grub-efi-amd64-signed_1.126+2.04-1ubuntu10_amd64.deb
[01:18] <wxl[m]> That's what's in the .list
[01:21] <wxl[m]> Hmm 11 came through 15 hours ago
[01:21] <wxl[m]> Maybe we should try a respin
[01:22] <kc2bez> yeah, when I did an install before the new iso respin it worked.
[01:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL43cac89b4ead: Add opened read only field for ARK] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL43cac89b4ead
[01:27] <wxl[m]> Oh there ya go
[01:27] <wxl[m]> I didn't get that.. That's what confused me
[01:27] <wxl[m]> I thought you said it didn't
[01:29] <kc2bez> I did a apt update && full-upgrade on the live system this morning to get the new cala and that worked. But it didn't have the new grub that came later in the day, then the new daily came out.
[01:29] <kc2bez> BIOS installs worked before and continue to work.
[01:31] <kc2bez> Simon's bash line doesn't seem to work in a terminal though. https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/lubuntu/modules/before_bootloader_context.conf$15
[01:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa8b6599020cf: Add number of entries for propertiues to archive] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa8b6599020cf
[02:18] <lubuntu_> Whelp, so far so good
 @HMollerCl [new lxqt-globalkeys released https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/releases/ta …], One day after I pull the git! 🤷🏻♂ But it would be same only right?
 @ubot93 [<ubot93> standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @Samuel …], Missed! Slept early. Anything for me?
 wxl: re: screensaver, I can get the updated default screensaver list in today. Without those which you don't want. Sorry for delay, really tied up between college and rains and relatives coming to my city.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [One day after I pull the git! 🤷🏻♂ But it would be same only right?], Yes
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3FmJTWCgQk/ … This list I mean. With a couple of edits. wxl:
 @HMollerCl [Yes], So how do we update to latest release?
 I would pass for this cycle
 Makes sense as it's the same.
 Btw, is there a next version of lxqt coming soon?
[03:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe90549395ad7: Add last modified filed to ark prefrences] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe90549395ad7
[03:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2f08f11ea9b8: Add different crypto hashes] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2f08f11ea9b8
[07:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1b22ec7a8685: Add switch application language to ARK customizing] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1b22ec7a8685
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Btw, is there a next version of lxqt coming soon?], I think yes
 @HMollerCl [and we need weblate @N0um3n0 @teward001], on my list now, it'll be built tomorrow.  ironing out some kinks in my network still but almost done there.
 i'll set it up, but getting it fully operational is not on my plate :P
 thanks @teward001 we (global team) can go on from that
 Someon could help me understand why in redshift-qt they kill the process for toggle (even for enable) and why it still appears in qps although is toogled?
 kill(_redshiftProcess->pid(), SIGUSR1);
 https://github.com/Chemrat/redshift-qt/blob/master/systemtray.cpp#L160
 wxl ^ @tsimonq2
[17:00] <wxl[m]> Hm I got kicked off freenode and can't get back on due to SASL and an expired certificate
[17:13] <kc2bez> That isn't good.
[19:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL399e11c58f55: Add primary language to swithichng ARK language] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL399e11c58f55
[19:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL587091228d27: Add OK button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL587091228d27
[19:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfc39fb0806d9: Add ark-language screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfc39fb0806d9
 @HMollerCl [kill(_redshiftProcess->pid(), SIGUSR1);], just found ot that kill() doesn't kill a process, it sends a signal....
[20:10] <wxl> turns out the issue was my certificate. derp.
[20:26] <kc2bez> Nice to see you back wxl
[20:26] <wxl> and i just wrote myself a how to in case i forget again XD
[20:27] <wxl> so did we check the dailies today? i'm especially concerned about the efi fail
[20:28] <kc2bez> I am concerned too. I didn't notice a respin yet though.
[20:32] <kc2bez> It looks like a ne grub got accepted this afternoon too.
[20:33] <kc2bez> In proposed now.
[20:38] <wxl> really?????
[20:38] <kc2bez> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/2.04-1ubuntu12
[20:41] <wxl> !info source:grub2 eoan-proposed
[20:41] <wxl> !info grub2 eoan-proposed
[20:41] <wxl> darnit i don't remember how to look up source packages
 DDG is your friend
[20:43] <wxl> yeah yeah i know but i want to befriend ubottu too :)
 :D
 Dont think Ubottu knows proposed lol
[21:22] <wxl> !info calamares eoan-proposed
[21:22] <wxl> oh hm
 ah, it shouldn't
 good bot
[21:23] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/135690
[21:24] <wxl> there is THAT
[21:24] <wxl> but
[21:24] <wxl> !info calamares icky-icky-ka-pang-pow
[21:24] <wxl> there's proof that eoan-proposed IS a thing
[21:24] <wxl> but since it only does binaries, it's kind of sucky
[21:26] <wxl> we can do this though:
[21:26] <wxl> !info grub-efi-amd64-bin eoan-proposed
[21:27] <wxl> well, we SHOULD be able to
[21:27] <wxl> might be with the freeze things are funky.. i don't know
[21:41] <wxl> info src:grub2 eoan-proposed
[21:42] <wxl> oops
[21:42] <wxl> !info src:grub2 eoan-proposed
[21:42] <wxl> !info src:grub2 eoan
[21:42] <wxl> ah HA
[21:42] <kc2bez> ooooh
[21:53] <guiverc2> trying install on efi crapbook; fingers crossed (2019-10-11 17:00:41 ISO)
[21:54] <wxl> !info src:calamares eoan
[21:55] <wxl> isn't that curious?
[21:55] <wxl> that's XSBC-Original-Maintainer and Vcs-Browser
 from debian
[21:56] <wxl> !info src:calmares-settings-ubuntu eoan
[21:56] <wxl> !info src:calamares-settings-ubuntu eoan
[21:56] <wxl> oops
[21:57] <wxl> in that case there is ONLY the Maintainer field
[21:57] <wxl> same Maintainer on cala but i guess this tool has original take precedence
[21:58] <guiverc2> install looks good (efi, encryption, no web)
[21:58] <wxl> https://git.launchpad.net/~krytarik/ubuntu-bots/+git/ubuntu-bots/commit/?id=b27c23725bece5c6b354d2e1091ea0e79a01902a
[21:59] <kc2bez> I'm doing a no encryption with web efi right now
[22:01]  * kc2bez sighs
[22:01] <kc2bez> All good here too
[22:01] <guiverc2> had me worry it wasn't a good sigh !
[22:02] <kc2bez> relief sigh!
[22:02] <wxl> i think you want a phew
[22:02] <guiverc2> :)    mark it on https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/ please;   NOTE: I cannot do EFI+Secure; no hardware that matches
[22:02] <kc2bez> PHEW!!!
[22:03] <guiverc2> :)
[22:03] <wxl> can you mark the bug fixed or should i guiverc2 ?
[22:03] <kc2bez> I am in a vbox VM but I will markup the phab sheet.
[22:03] <guiverc2> wxl you do it.... I don't fix things, only 'break'
[22:03] <wxl> XD
[22:03] <guiverc2> kc2bez, if you want it re-done on hardware; leave it blank & i'll get to it anyway
[22:04] <wxl> so what about the luks unsquash thingy?
[22:04] <kc2bez> I can try that too.
[22:05] <kc2bez> At least to make sure the bug goes away.
[22:05] <kc2bez> guiverc2: Hardware might be a good idea, can't be too sure.
[22:14] <kc2bez> Do we have release notes started anywhere?
[22:15] <guiverc2> kc2bez, won't it just be a modified https://lubuntu.me/eoan-beta-released/
[22:16] <kc2bez> I wasn't sure.
[22:16] <guiverc2> well I'm guessing too
[22:18] <kc2bez> I was thinking we should mention the path for the wallpapers. When you go to change them it defaults $HOME and they are in /usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers/
[22:20] <wxl> hm
[22:21] <wxl> wonder if there's some way we could set that default path
[22:22] <kc2bez> It does seem to remember the last directory chosen, let me see if it survives a reboot.
[22:23] <kc2bez> yes it does, there must be a setting someplace.
[22:24] <wxl> try this:
[22:24] <wxl>  1. touch $HOME/test
[22:24] <wxl>  2. do your thing
[22:24] <wxl>  3. find ~ -type f -newer $HOME/test
[22:28] <kc2bez> It looks like it might be in here $HOME/.config/pcmanfm-qt/lxqt/settings.conf
[22:29] <wxl> so now cp that somewhere, do your thing, and diff the two
[22:44] <kc2bez> that isn't the right config, not sure where that directory reference is stored. The `WallpaperDirectory=` only seems to deal with the slide show.
[22:44] <wxl> it's possible it's outside of home
[22:44] <wxl> in which case, you could change it in one user and then a different user would see the change
[22:45] <wxl> which seems weird
 Should be in pcmanfm conf
 Bah sorry you already mentioned that
[23:01] <kc2bez> should be but not necessarily. I'll try to get back to that later. Testing installs right now.
[23:09] <kc2bez> 3 luks efi installs in a row on the same VM have succeeded. That lgtm
[23:09] <wxl> DO IT MOAR
[23:10] <kc2bez> MOAR luks
[23:10] <kc2bez> We need some geoip testers!
[23:14] <wxl> wth i'm getting a kernel panic in vbox
[23:14] <wxl> oh well, guess i'm out
[23:15] <kc2bez> wat?
[23:15] <kc2bez> On your host or in the VM?
[23:15] <wxl> dunno..
[23:15] <wxl> the vm
[23:15] <wxl> i had a core pegging, so maybe that was somehow an issue.. i don't know.... wait a minute......
[23:16] <wxl> let me give it another core and see if that helps
[23:16] <kc2bez> MOAR CORES!
[23:16] <wxl> nope
[23:17] <kc2bez> That isn't good.
[23:18] <kc2bez> I gave my VM 6 maybe I should back it down and see what happens.
[23:18] <wxl> i went up to 4 and nothing
[23:18] <wxl> hhuh same problem with the beta.. which i swear i had working. something maybe broken.. resources too limited perhaps. this is what happens when i'm using the work machine
[23:20] <kc2bez> 2G RAM and 2 cores seems to be installing fine.
[23:24] <wxl> yeah wellllllllllll i was doing 512 sooooooooooooooooo
[23:25] <wxl> and it seems like the NextCloud AppImage is flipping out again, gobbling all my rams
[23:26] <kc2bez> nom nom nom
[23:27] <wxl> there now i have lots of rams
[23:28] <wxl> still nothing. oh well. i quit.
[23:28] <kc2bez> Thanks for trying.
[23:31] <wxl> i have double the amount of ram on my laptop at home
[23:31]  * wxl rolls eyes
[23:32] <kc2bez> Same deal for me and 4X CPU
[23:33] <wxl> it also doesn't help that a standard part of our setup at work is a resource-consuming windows vm
[23:34] <kc2bez> Yeah, I hate it when I have to run my Windows VM, it really loads me down. I use it sparingly.
[23:43] <wxl> it's better than running it as the main os!
[23:44] <kc2bez> Very true!


[12:28] <okaratas> hello
[12:45] <mathiaz> okaratas: hi
[02:30] <necrite> hi ..
[02:31] <necrite> there is any way to see the mac address of one qlogic fiber chanel card from one linux(ubuntu server) box?
[02:37] <leonel> necrite: arp ?
[02:38] <necrite> is a fiber channel card.. not ehternet
[02:40] <necrite> fabbione, help me once :)
[03:33] <Elazar> Anyone know why linux-image-server and linux-server updates are held back in Server Feisty?
[03:39] <Burgundavia> Elazar: likely waiting for a new restricted
[03:41] <Elazar> Burgundavia: Er... come again?
[03:42] <Burgundavia> the meta package depends on a -restricted-modules component
[03:42] <Elazar> Mmkay.
[03:42] <Elazar> So... all I can do is wait? :P
[03:43] <Burgundavia> wait a day, yes
[03:44] <Elazar> Been waiting a while on this one. :P
[03:45] <Burgundavia> what does a dist-upgrade tell you?
[03:55] <Elazar> Looks like that was all I had to do. :P
[03:56] <Elazar> Not used to doing package management through apt-get yet. Used to Ubuntu Desktop.
[03:56] <Elazar> Getting there, though. Thanks for the tip.
[05:32] <Tom47_> mentin is made of different kernel in6.06 LTS from desktop .... http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/606#head-925351b68ef736bd8a21f7c80d4282a638aa4d2f .... what are the implications for application repositories ie are theredifferent ones for the server?
[05:33] <Tom47_> server vs desktop kernesl ...
[08:12] <TheCougar> has any one used surgemail ( http://www.netwinsite.com/surgemail/integrated.htm ) that could give me some information?
[08:19] <Burgundavia> never even heard of it
[08:20] <TheCougar> i'm trying to find something where I can download all my e-mail from various pop3 accounts and then access it all with a web interface or using outlook and be able to send mail out on the correct account
[08:35] <Burgundavia> ah, interesting problem
[02:13] <mralphabet> TheCougar: gmail will pop other accounts now
[03:29] <gejr> my wireless card is found in lspci but it's not in ifconfig
[03:29] <gejr> what could cause this?
[04:16] <juliux> hi
[04:17] <lionel> hi juliux
[04:18] <juliux> it is possible to restart a server if a new install kernel hangs?
[04:18] <lionel> you should check if everything is allright before rebooting
[04:19] <juliux> hehe
[04:19] <juliux> but you never know;)
[04:19] <lionel> it should not hang on kernel install :(
[04:19] <lionel> keep a livecd with you :)
[04:19] <juliux> the server is 600km away from me;)
[04:19] <juliux> it is in datacenter
[04:19] <lionel> :-(
[04:31] <juliux> hmm
[04:31] <juliux> but i think i should use the new kernel on my server
[04:32] <juliux> there is a 1,5 year old kernel running
[04:43] <levander> Does the dovecot version which ships with Feisty support sieve?  I see on dovecot.org that dovecot does support sieve now via a plugin.  But, can't find a package for that plugin with 'apt-cache search'.
[04:46] <lionel> levander: dpkg -L dovecot-common | grep -i sieve
[04:46] <lionel> /usr/share/doc/dovecot-common/wiki/LDA.Sieve.txt.gz
[04:46] <lionel> /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_cmusieve_plugin.so
[04:46] <lionel> /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_cmusieve_plugin.la
[04:46] <lionel> /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_cmusieve_plugin.a
[04:46] <lionel> /usr/lib/dovecot/sievec
[04:46] <lionel> /usr/lib/dovecot/sieved
[04:46] <lionel> I've never tried
[04:46] <lionel> But I plan to do :)
[04:47] <levander> lionel: I'm looking around, haven't tried them yet, but it looks like emacs, dovecot, and thunderbird all have sieve support.  Now *may* be the time to take the plunge.
[04:47] <levander> And, I've never set up procmail even though I've been meaning to....
[04:48] <lionel> thunderbird now support sieve ?
[04:49] <levander> lionel: I haven't read this yet: http://sieve.mozdev.org/
[04:49] <levander> Right now I'm reading about dovecot.
[04:50] <lionel> (kmail support it, but I don't run KDE)
[09:06] <statux> Can you install GUI to server?
[09:06] <andrew____> I'm a newbie scoping out Ubuntu and LDAP to run a school computer network...but I've hit a very steep wall in trying to get LDAP to run...all kinds of problems getting the configuration right.  Any LDAP experience in the house?
[09:47] <Ali_ix> hi channel
[09:47] <Ali_ix> i am messign around a network model about squid and ssh tunnel
[09:48] <Ali_ix> i have a asmall network and internet connections is shared through a gateway
[09:48] <Ali_ix> gateway has squid installed as cache server
[09:49] <Ali_ix> now, i need to run squid behind a ssh tunnel to internet
[09:49] <Ali_ix> how can i make squid to use sock5 proxy connection through ssh tunnel to access internet (instead of direct connections)
[09:49] <Ali_ix> ?
[11:17] <nealmcb> this fails for me ("broken packages") on a dapper machine: `sudo apt-get install krb5-kdc`   -  The following packages have unmet dependencies:   krb5-kdc: Depends: libkrb53 (= 1.4.3-5) but 1.4.3-5ubuntu0.3 is to be installed
[11:17] <nealmcb> any tips?
[11:18] <nealmcb> or should I file a bug?
[11:23] <Burgundavia> file a bug
[11:26] <Jester45> anyone here know how to set up torrentflux
[11:27] <Jester45> from the repo? im lost
[11:42] <nealmcb> Burgundavia: Here it is:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krb5/+bug/121923