[06:55] <m1r> thinkingfrog: xubuntu might be better if u want speed
[06:55] <drivetrax> thinkingfrog:  -- I got wobbley windows.. I can shake them all over
[06:55] <thinkingfrog> oh, is this how people make Ubuntu look like Mac OS X?
[06:55] <thinkingfrog> all fancy and what not?
[06:55] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: system, adminsration, desktop effects
[06:56] <drivetrax> 3d cubes
[06:56] <jords> thinkingfrog: much fancier than mac os x
[06:56] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  I'd rather not reinstall the operating system
[06:56] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: sudo aptitude install fluxbox (or xubuntu-desktop)
[06:56] <zeno_> no need =p
[06:56] <m1r> thinkingfrog: openbox ;)
[06:56] <Anonona_DC|ZZZ> ThinkingFrog - one of the ways. It's the general graphical bells-and-whistles system. Add Avant Window Manager for a deskbar
[06:56] <zeno_> you can even choose which from GDM
[06:57] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  I see
[06:57] <n-iCe> where can I add commands to execute when X starts???
[06:57] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  where do I tell Ubuntu to start Fluxbox instead of Gnome?
[06:58] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  I don't see a desk affects under system -> administration
[06:58] <dale> k, cant seem to get any other suggestions
[06:58] <dale> ill try metacity reset
[06:58] <Waffle> dale, good luck
[06:58] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: maybe prefs im not actually on gnome :(
[06:59] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: click on the paper like thing, click session, click fluxbox
[06:59] <drivetrax> thinkingfrog:  prefs.. advanced desktop
[06:59] <thinkingfrog> n-ice:  I believe it's in preferences, let me find it again
[06:59] <dale> reset isnt an option
[07:00] <drivetrax> thinkingfrog:  -- be aware, there are a ton of settings to make the 3d effects come to life
[07:00] <thinkingfrog> n-ice:  Preferences -> Sessions
[07:00] <equa> how do i install flash in my firefox browser, i have no idea how to do installs with linux :(
[07:00] <thinkingfrog> I won't consider 3d settings until I get the nvidia driver installed
[07:00] <Waffle> !flash | equa
[07:00] <ubotu> equa: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:00] <thinkingfrog> I couldn't get it to work even with Envy
[07:00] <laith> Hi, every one
[07:01] <thinkingfrog> hi laith
[07:01] <n-iCe> thanks thinkingfrog
[07:01] <laith> I had my CCNA last thursday
[07:01] <thinkingfrog> n-iCe:  you're welcome :)
[07:01] <Waffle> dale, again this is what i did in Gutsy, did you try "metacity --rest"?
[07:01] <n-iCe> thinkingfrog,  do you know something about wireless? :p
[07:02] <thinkingfrog> n-iCe:  sorry, I'm using a hard line
[07:02] <laith> I wanted to share my study method cause I found it very helpful
[07:02] <drivetrax> thinkingfrog:  -- ubuntu seems to KNOW my ati card is in the box.. and is pulling drivers for it.. and I did go download again to install drivers for the ATI, but all this Advanced settings will work with your pc.. thing is, the other installs for compiz-fusion may need the video card
[07:02] <thinkingfrog> n-iCe:  but on my mom's computer, there wasn't a problem with the wireless nic driver, it found the wireless network
[07:02] <zeno_> equa: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:03] <laith> I found this site www.gns3.net which is the official site for the gns3 application, which is IOS emulator for Linux
[07:03] <thinkingfrog> I need a better chat client, gotta' hide all the enters and exits...
[07:03] <thinkingfrog> man, I got a lot to do
[07:03] <drivetrax> zeno_:  tell how to download from the flash website
[07:03] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: konversation does that for me, but it needs KDE libs
[07:03] <will_> I keep getting the error ¨could not find usable proxy configuration script¨ when I open ktorrent.  Anyone have a clue?
[07:03] <zeno_> if your okay with that
[07:03] <n-iCe> thinkingfrog,  the problem is this, my wireless can connect to my modem but I tried other modem and didnt  work
[07:04] <laith> there is ubuntu prebuild package
[07:04] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  what are different about the modems?
[07:04] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  let me install fluxbox, then we'll talk...I'm sure there's a chat client for Gnome
[07:04] <n-iCe> drivetrax,  model I guess mine is 2WIRE and the other is the newest version, but could linux preffer modems??
[07:04] <laith> once you have an IOS, you can emulate it on a virtual router or firewall PIX
[07:05] <Waffle> thinkingfrog, i use xchat
[07:05] <dale> woo, got it working
[07:05] <thinkingfrog> brb, need to get a power cable for this other system
[07:05] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  ports.. i think
[07:05] <dale> gnome-panel was missing
[07:05] <zeno_> Waffle: can it hide join events?
[07:05] <n-iCe> drivetrax,  how can I solve it?
[07:05] <will_> I Googled my head off and cant find anything
[07:05] <laith> that is all
[07:05] <n-iCe> why ports?? you meant channel?
[07:06] <Waffle> zeno_, I am sure it can... its customziable with python scripts
[07:06] <laith> thank you friends
[07:06] <kc> when y'all get done with that, i have a question about x11 forwarding and i'm not even sure how to google about it: i ssh -Y from my hardy box into another box (fedora) and try to run firefox. i get firefox running on my local machine, not the remote machine. is ubuntu trying to outsmart me?
[07:06] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  well. I would recheck the modem ports.. yes, channels
[07:06] <n-iCe> drivetrax,  ok I will check it tomorrow, more ideas?
[07:07] <n-iCe> I will set the same port that I am using in this modem right now, channel 6, so you mean port same as chanenl right?
[07:07] <drivetrax> be sure the network config does not change somehow.. with a different modem
[07:07] <zeno_> Waffle: i meant outta box =p
[07:08] <slowlearner> kc: lol, means your probably not connected to the remote machine when you issue the command
[07:08] <cvd-pr> where is my  channel operator status?
[07:08] <zeno_> (doubt thinkingfrog wants to edit scripts)
[07:08] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  DSL modems have firewalls in them.. and a way to use a browser to connect to the modem.  make settings for ports and access
[07:08] <n-iCe> drivetrax,  well I use the gnome manager the one is set by default what could change?
[07:09] <kc> slowlearner, thanks but i'm pretty sure i'm not that tired. prompt shows other hostname and ifconfig shows ip info expected on remote machine
[07:09] <Waffle> zeno_, hold on lemme try
[07:09] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  I do actually, just need time
[07:09] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  my user name changed suddenly.. yesterday.. lol, I dunno
[07:09] <thinkingfrog> right now I need to open up this cd drive, since I left the Ubuntu cd inside it after I removed it
[07:09] <n-iCe> drivetrax,  oh
[07:09] <n-iCe> ok drivetrax  channel, what else
[07:10] <Millertime_018> hey i'm back
[07:10] <Millertime_018> vmware-server:
[07:10] <Millertime_018>  Depends: libstdc++5 (>=1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable
[07:11] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  specific information on the modem model will help you
[07:11] <Millertime_018> i've got vmware-server in my synaptic terminal
[07:11] <slowlearner> kc: now that would be something..
[07:11] <Millertime_018> but i cant installit
[07:12] <Millertime_018> help!
[07:12] <Waffle> Millertime_018, not sure if this will help, but you might check it out
[07:12] <Waffle> Millertime_018, forgot to include the link... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto#head-7d9acf78affa92a48849d27c6056d31e796c9a13
[07:12] <kc> woah! so i did have firefox running on my local box also. when i quit that, now i get firefox from the remote machine as expected. perhaps its not ubuntu, but firefox3 itself that was detecting and thinking i just wanted it to give me another window
[07:12] <kc> still thats freakin weird
[07:13] <zeno_> firefox 3 open with thing stopped working; hmmm
[07:13] <Millertime_018> Waffle: i got vmware to show up
[07:13] <Millertime_018> and its in my synaptic package manager
[07:13] <Millertime_018> but see, i cant install it-
[07:14] <Millertime_018> vmware-server:
[07:14] <Millertime_018>  Depends: libstdc++5 (>=1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable
[07:14] <thinkingfrog> brb
[07:14] <kc> it works the other way too. now that firefox is running on the remote machine, attempts to run firefox command on the local machine result in another firefox window launched from the instance on the remote machine
[07:14] <Millertime_018> hey whats the fix broken packages command in ubuntu?
[07:15] <Millertime_018> its like apt-get ...-f or something
[07:15] <slowlearner> kc really weird dude
[07:15] <Millertime_018> what is it?
[07:15] <Waffle> Millertime_018, that is what the link i sent you was about
[07:15] <Waffle> Millertime_018, but it was using the GUI interface
[07:15] <slowlearner> Millertime_018: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:16] <Waffle> Millertime_018, did you update your apt-get?
[07:17] <Millertime_018> no not yet
[07:17] <Waffle> Millertime_018, try sudo apt-get update
[07:18] <prohna> compiz fusion was working correctly for me until i upgraded to 8.04 the other day now it has weird glitches with windows not repainting themselves correctly
[07:18] <Waffle> prohna, are you on hardy now?
[07:18] <prohna> especially if i minimize a window that was infront of that window
[07:18] <bazhang> cvd-pr: doubt you have chan ops in this channel ;]
[07:18] <prohna> Waffle: yes
[07:18] <Waffle> !hardy | prohna
[07:18] <ubotu> prohna: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:18] <zach__> im on 8.04 and stuck at 800x600  and when i enable the restricted drivers then i restart and they arent enabled?
[07:18] <zeno_> hardys really good
[07:18] <prohna> sorry
[07:18] <zeno_> less bugs than gutsy for me 2 months ago
[07:19] <amidaniel> Heron's coming out in 2 days??
[07:19] <Waffle> amidaniel, yup
[07:19] <zeno_> ah didnt know nice
[07:19] <amidaniel> Gahh .. I just finished upgrading all my machines to Gutsy :P
[07:19] <Waffle> just means youre efficient at it now
[07:19] <zeno_> amidaniel: i think you just do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:20] <amidaniel> Waffle: Hehe :)
[07:20] <bazhang> zeno_: nearly correct
[07:20] <amidaniel> zeno_: That is the claim of course :)
[07:20] <Waffle> Millertime_018, did the apt-get update help?
[07:20] <amidaniel> zeno_: Unfortunately getting things *working* isn't always so easy :)
[07:20] <zach__> how do i fix resolution problems in 8.04
[07:21] <Millertime_018> i did. i went did apt-get update
[07:21] <drivetrax> How I do Ardour - with apt ?
[07:21] <zeno_> amidaniel: yeah i probably wont try with my PS3
[07:21] <zeno_> too much wierd stuff ive done that might break
[07:21] <Waffle> Millertime_018, does the vmware install now?
[07:21] <Millertime_018> no...
[07:23] <zach__> is there a reason my restricted drivers arent sticking at restart?
[07:24] <zeno_> zach__: check in system (pref or admin) restricted drivers manager
[07:24] <zeno_> make sure they are in there
[07:25] <lancerock> Hi all
[07:25] <zeno_> this is any open source software that can do something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFCjv4_jqAY ?
[07:25] <Waffle> Millertime_018, not sure what to tell you, but ive gotta get to sleep
[07:25] <drivetrax> How to get ardour into ubuntu?
[07:25] <lancerock> What's gonna be the big difference if u just DL a nightly build of Ubuntu now as apposed to waiting the 2 days to get the new version?
[07:25] <gogeta> dialcrap soo that whont help
[07:26] <ushimitsudoki> drivetrax: i used a .deb from getdeb.net
[07:26] <thinkingfrog_> it's cool in Ubuntu Linux, I can unplug my ps2 keyboard, and plug it in later, and it works
[07:26] <gogeta> thinkingfrog_ like it should
[07:26] <gogeta> thinkingfrog_ lol
[07:27] <thinkingfrog_> I'm not a developer, so I shouldn't point too many fingers
[07:27] <thinkingfrog_> it's probably pretty hard to make an operating system do this
[07:27] <zeno_> jeez id hope that worked =p
[07:27] <DanikarPN> *blink* ive never had trouble doing that before.
[07:28] <zeno_> otherwise how would you do ANYTHING after unplugging the keyboard
[07:29] <gogeta> DanikarPN wanna see linux stuggle have dialup
[07:29] <gogeta> DanikarPN thers like 0 v92 support
[07:29] <lancerock> What's gonna be the big difference if u just DL a nightly build of Ubuntu now as apposed to waiting the 2 days to get the new version?
[07:30] <drivetrax> you are advised to install Ardour using the normal software installation tools for your distribution.
[07:30] <Charles_Xavier> hello, this is charles, a professor with PhD at the university of penn.
[07:30] <drivetrax> So.. How do I get ardour..
[07:31] <zeno_> "some command" > somescript returns -bash: some command: No such file or directory; how do i have it just put the text in somefile
[07:31] <ripdisk> so, i was doing some reading, and i was just wondering what they mean by 8.04 release canidate
[07:31] <zeno_> !hello | Charles_Xavier:
[07:31] <ubotu> Charles_Xavier:: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:32] <zeno_> ripdisk: its a not-quite finished version
[07:32] <bazhang> lancerock: not much difference
[07:32] <ripdisk> what does ''release candidate'' mean exactly?
[07:32] <ripdisk> ah
[07:32] <drivetrax> RC ~ this might be working now
[07:32] <ripdisk> is it worth getting?
[07:32] <Charles_Xavier> question: I enabled the firmware bcm43xx in the restricted manager and now my wireless card is working and im connected to the internet, i set it on roaming mode. the problem is that it does not show the signal strength in the panel, where do i get a manager that shows the signal strength of my wireless connection?
[07:32] <lancerock> bazhang: k
[07:32] <ripdisk> should i upgrade from gutsy?
[07:32] <zeno_> yeah
[07:32] <Charles_Xavier> hello all, ty
[07:32] <gogeta> arg
[07:32] <zeno_> ripdisk: even the betas were better than gutsy (my opinion)
[07:32] <ripdisk> oh really?
[07:32] <ripdisk> will i lose anything if i update?
[07:32] <gogeta> DanikarPN see what happons i complane and it disconnects for whaever random reasion
[07:32] <ripdisk> and, what's the easiest way to update from 7.10
[07:33] <bazhang> ripdisk: if gutsy is working for you then you may want to try the livecd before switching
[07:33] <gogeta> lol
[07:33] <gogeta> sudo update -d
[07:33] <ripdisk> it'll work just fine
[07:33] <ripdisk> i know it will
[07:33] <ripdisk> i checked all my hardware.
[07:33] <zeno_> ripdisk: google dist-upgrade hardy
[07:33] <bazhang> gogeta: that is not the correct command
[07:33] <ripdisk> roger roger
[07:33] <gogeta> bazhang sence when
[07:34] <ripdisk> zeno_, will i lose anything?
[07:34] <gogeta> bazhang to trigger the gui its -d
[07:34] <zeno_> a command line util such as google whatever would be cool
[07:34] <jhoc2x> hi to all ppl in here.. ^^
[07:34] <bazhang> gogeta you forgot the -manager part
[07:34] <zeno_> ripdisk: stuff COULD break, i might wait like 2 days til official release
[07:34] <ripdisk> oh ok
[07:35] <ripdisk> in that case i'll wait
[07:35] <zeno_> the less youve mucked with stuff the easier the upgrade
[07:35] <ripdisk> only thing i've done was change the video drivers around, really
[07:35] <ripdisk> install some software
[07:35] <gogeta> :-(
[07:35] <zeno_> you should be fine
[07:36] <ripdisk> so, in two days i'll be able to update to the release ver?
[07:36] <zeno_> ive removed GDM/gnome; mucked with init scripts/drivers, etc
[07:36] <zeno_> i probably wont be :(
[07:36] <ripdisk> lol
[07:36] <zeno_> ripdisk: yup
[07:36] <stata> i
[07:36] <ripdisk> will that be another distro upgrade
[07:36] <ripdisk> or just some updates to download
[07:37] <gogeta> bazhang duno abought you but everytime i tryed a full dist update it left my system im a smoking pile of runes
[07:37] <jhoc2x> how to install compizconfig-settings-manager   ??? i got this message "E: Couldn't find package compizconfig-settings-manager"
[07:37] <zeno_> ripdisk: how you do it is update your /etc/apt/sorces.list, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:37] <tc111> i'm trying to set up an init.d script to start an executable, but also need to pass a switch '-smp' to the executable... is this possible?
[07:37] <Charles_Xavier> Hello, does anyone know how to show the signal strength of my wireless connection
[07:38] <Charles_Xavier> its working fine, but i cannot see the signal strength
[07:38] <stata>  /msg ubotu etiquette
[07:38] <zeno_> jhoc2x: sure you typed in the right package name?
[07:38] <ripdisk> ok zeno, here i go.. thanks!
[07:38] <bazhang> gogeta well if you specify the issues next time perhaps we can work them out
[07:38] <ripdisk> oh, and zeno
[07:38] <Anonona_DC|ZZZ> Is it possible to roll back an Ubuntu upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 RC1?
[07:38] <nocturn> Hi guys
[07:38] <ripdisk> will i have to download it again in two days zeno?
[07:39] <zeno_> Charles_Xavier: system/administration/network, and then click on wireless, and it should show signal %
[07:39] <bazhang> Anonona_DC|ZZZ: you mean the reverse?
[07:39] <gogeta> bazhang no i litterly mean smoking pile of runes
[07:39] <zeno_> im sure theres a command line option
[07:39] <jhoc2x> #zeno i did.. i type "sudo apt-get install compizfonfig-settings-manager
[07:39] <Anonona_DC|ZZZ> bazhang - yes
[07:39] <zeno_> ripdisk: just updates
[07:39] <nocturn> I'm running Hardy beta, now I need FF2 for a site.  But I cannot figure out how to get Java working in it...
[07:39] <zeno_> (maybe alot of em)
[07:39] <gogeta> bazhang acpi fan glitch
[07:39] <Charles_Xavier> it odesnt show anything
[07:39] <Charles_Xavier> i have roaming mode on, it is not showing the signal strength
[07:39] <bazhang> Anonona_DC|ZZZ: sadly no; not practically at any rate
[07:39] <zeno_> turn roaming off
[07:40] <zeno_> and click on the select network button
[07:40] <Charles_Xavier> will it disconnect me?
[07:40] <Charles_Xavier> it doesnt work without roaming
[07:40] <Aces> Something went haywire in my WI-FI Radar install and now Im trying to remove it to reinstall and I get dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 2 package `wifi-radar':
[07:40] <Charles_Xavier> i have to keep roaming mode on otherwise my wireless connection does not work
[07:40] <ripdisk> zeno, how do i update the sources.list?
[07:40] <bazhang> Charles_Xavier: roaming mode will not affect seeing the signal strength
[07:41] <areels> is there anything like Live Communications Server for linux?
[07:41] <bazhang> Aces: how did you try to install it? from source, a deb or other
[07:42] <Aces> bazhang: sudo apt-get
[07:42] <ripdisk> nm figured it out
[07:42] <bazhang> Aces: which repo is it in?
[07:43] <Aces> bazhang: umm ill i did was sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[07:43] <bazhang> nocturn: then install it--what java do you need
[07:44] <nocturn> bazhang: any will do I guess.  I installed java and the java-plugin, but it only appears in FireFox 3, while this site will not work on anything but FF2
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[07:45] <bazhang> nocturn: this is the flash? java applet or what please specify
[07:45] <bazhang> wow stop now
[07:46] <nocturn> bazhang: just the normal java plugin to run applets, I need to connect to a cisco vpn server that downloads an applet to make the connection...
[07:46] <Aces> bazhang: it seems its just in the Ubuntu repository
[07:47] <bazhang> nocturn: can you copy the plugin from the ff3 plugins folder to the ff2 one? this is hardy correct?
[07:47] <bazhang> Aces: any reason to be using wifi-radar as opposed to cli or network-manager?
[07:48] <nocturn> bazhang: I tried, copied it to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ but it won't appear...
[07:48] <nocturn> bazhang: Hardy RC, yes
[07:48] <Aces> bazhang: because I seem to get really low signal strength with network manager and I read on some forum disabling it and using wifi radar might help
[07:48] <bazhang> nocturn: I believe the plugins location changed, you may wish to ask in the hardy channel as I have forgotten
[07:48] <Aces> bazhang:  either way something must be wrong with it since i cant even remove it
[07:49] <bazhang> Aces: admittedly nm is not that wonderful, have you considered just connecting via cli? that is the surest option
[07:50] <Aces> bazhang: You gave me a link to set it up earlier but I havent got around to going through it yet
[07:50] <nocturn> bazhang: What's the channel for Hardy?
[07:50] <bazhang> Aces: what is the wifi hotspot; open, wep, wpa etc
[07:50] <drivetrax> there is alot of python in ubuntu
[07:50] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 nocturn
[07:50] <bazhang> for three more days ;]
[07:50] <Aces> bazhang: well I opened it up because whenever I tried to connect while it was WEP it froze Ubuntu
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> drivetrax, yep, we have a fetish for properly-tabbed pseudocode :D
[07:51] <nocturn> bazhang: thanks a million
[07:51] <bazhang> nocturn think it changed to /.mozilla
[07:52] <drivetrax> interesting.  I was trying out Python under windows after that guy showed Python.. n G4 tv
[07:53] <bazhang> Aces: you have the three entries in ifconfig right? eth0 lo and wlan0 (or somesuch)
[07:55] <jhoc2x> how to get the compiz settings?
[07:56] <bazhang> jhoc2x: you got ccsm installed?
[07:56] <ere4si> !ccsm | jhoc2x
[07:56] <ubotu> jhoc2x: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[07:56] <jhoc2x> i think not yet
[07:57] <Aces> bazhang:  yes i do
[07:57] <bazhang> what does sudo dhclient wlan0 (or nic name if other) do?
[07:57] <jhoc2x> bazhang: it said couldn't find package compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:58] <bazhang> jhoc2x: do you have the proper repos enabled?
[07:58] <Aces> bazhang:  renewal in 42392 seconds.
[07:58] <jhoc2x> bazhang: i think not..
[07:59] <Aces> plus alot of other things
[07:59] <jhoc2x> bazhang: could you give me the proper repos?
[07:59] <bazhang> Aces: can you surf the net now?
[07:59] <Aces> bazhang: yes
[07:59] <bazhang> Aces: great; next step is to get wpa2 on there
[08:00] <Aces> bazhang: k
[08:00] <bazhang> jhoc2x: could you open up synaptic package manager?
[08:00] <zhuojiong> hello
[08:00] <bazhang> hello zhuojiong
[08:00] <jhoc2x> bazhang: yes.. i can..
[08:01] <jhoc2x> !ccsm
[08:01] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[08:01] <zhuojiong> ZhCon怎么安装啊
[08:01] <bazhang> jhoc2x: okay, then open it up and then check the main repos then (first four should do) then hit reload and then search for compiz; it should show up--click on it and then hit apply changes or somesuch
[08:01] <zhuojiong> 有人教下么？
[08:01] <bazhang> !cn
[08:01] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[08:02] <zhuojiong> 谢谢
[08:02] <jhoc2x> kk.. i'll do that .. brb
[08:02] <bazhang> zhuojiong: /j #ubuntu-cn
[08:02] <icesword> hahaha
[08:02] <bazhang> jiao xia?
[08:03] <pclync1> anyone using win4lin?
[08:03] <bazhang> pclync1: what does it do?
[08:04] <pclync1> bazhang: windows x-window emulator
[08:04] <bazhang> icesword: shouldn't that be jiao yi xia?
[08:04] <icesword> bazhang, pardon?
[08:05] <reemusk> check out this awesome game http://game2.mafiadeath.com/r/60880.php
[08:05] <bazhang> an ot not important icesword
[08:05] <icesword> k
[08:05] <bazhang> reemusk please dont spam here
[08:06] <bazhang> pclync1: if you could describe it a bit more perhaps we could come up with a linux solution ;]
[08:07] <bazhang> without the win
[08:07] <pclync1> bazhang: :\ hmm i need to find out the options of the program e.g. "winpro -o do something"
[08:09] <bobbie4> Goodnight all!!!
[08:10] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349 here is a thread on it pclync1
[08:10] <drivetrax> Can you tell me how to play an mp3?
[08:11] <zvacet> drivetrax : in terminal     sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:11] <bazhang> drivetrax: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed for gutsy (right?)
[08:11] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm having an issue with opengl games... whenever I play one (native or wine) I periodically get a severe freeze-up in the game... during this time, X will take 100% cpu usage, and this will last for over a minute.  Can anyone help me out?
[08:11] <drivetrax> bazhang:  I am not certain
[08:12] <bazhang> drivetrax: best listen to zvacet then ;]
[08:14] <cloudedsky> For support, turn to the IRC channel, they said.  So here I am.  This is probably a silly question.
[08:14] <jsoft> Will I be able to upgrade ubuntu 7.10 to 8.whatever it is, just by using the package manager?
[08:14] <zvacet> jsoft :yes
[08:14] <bazhang> jsoft: sure
[08:14] <cloudedsky> If my DVD is a piece of junk and won't read my ubuntu CD, am I out of luck?  Because it boots from startup a virtual drive won't work.  Are there any alternatives?
[08:14] <jsoft> zvacet: yay :)
[08:15] <cloudedsky> DVD drive*
[08:15] <bazhang> cloudedsky: luckily yes; is this a dual boot?
[08:15] <jsoft> over the internet while I am playing warhammer 40k in wine, even?
[08:15] <jsoft> :D
[08:15] <cloudedsky> I'd like it to be.  I'm trying to install it for the first time actually.  It's about time I give it a try.
[08:15] <bazhang> jsoft worth a try for sure ;]
[08:15] <cvd-pr> q esta pasando aqui?
[08:15] <drivetrax> I liked unetbootin
[08:16] <bazhang> cloudedsky several options really: unetbootin, wubi, and some others
[08:16] <drivetrax> it was like, unusual, at first.. but.. It does NOT hang
[08:16] <bazhang> cloudedsky: depending on how technical minded you wish to be
[08:16] <cloudedsky> Hmmm.
[08:16] <bazhang> cvd-pr: not much ;]
[08:16] <thyko> has anyone managed to get their bcm43xx wireless card working on 8.04?
[08:17] <cloudedsky> Well really the whole purpose of this "experiment" was to become more technical.  Ha.
[08:17] <cvd-pr> thyko,  #ubuntu+1
[08:17] <bazhang> thyko: using ndiswrapper or other
[08:17] <drivetrax> cloudedsky:  Unetbootin, read up
[08:18] <bazhang> !wubi | cloudedsky read the ubuntuforums link first
[08:18] <ubotu> cloudedsky read the ubuntuforums link first: wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[08:18] <cloudedsky> Looking into right now.
[08:18] <cloudedsky> Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, I'm sure I'll be around.
[08:18] <drivetrax> yah, Wubi.. sets up like a Looped virtual disk install
[08:18] <bazhang> slower than unetbootin though
[08:19] <drivetrax> You has to use LVmp er, or somethink to transfer the wubi onto partitions
[08:20] <bazhang> then it will be quite a bit faster ;]
[08:20] <drivetrax> wull.. I liked that the netboot install .. let you tell it what to do, and it did that.
[08:21] <Anonona_DC|ZZZ> Q) is there a better way of getting some type of parity or RAID5 setup going than ZFS over FUSE? A friend said he thought FUSE was highly buggy, and I'm wondering if there are alternatives to going and installing Solaris
[08:21] <thyko> cvd-pr: huh?
[08:22] <thyko> bazhang: does that mean you got it working?
[08:22] <Aces> Why do I get a E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) when I try apt-get update?
[08:22] <tc111> i'm trying to set up an init.d script to start an executable, but also need to pass a switch '-smp' to the executable... is this possible?
[08:22] <cvd-pr> thyko, thats the channel of 8.04
[08:22] <tc111> Aces: need to be root 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:22] <bazhang> Aces: did you sudo?
[08:22] <Aces> aah
[08:23] <Aces> Thanks
[08:23] <DamienGir> Why is it when I access sudo and it asks me for my password, I can't type anything in?
[08:23] <bazhang> DamienGir: the kb locks up?
[08:23] <DamienGir> Yeah
[08:23] <zvacet> DamienGir : yes you can but you don´t see it for security
[08:24] <thyko> cvd-pr: thanks
[08:25] <drivetrax> got java6 now
[08:26] <RootChaos> join #cisco
[08:26] <RootChaos> lol
[08:27] <RootChaos> :-)
[08:28] <artinws> a question : how can i disable a network bridge ? ( without rebooting )
[08:29] <silenciario> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4762770#post4762770 :)
[08:30] <meteor_> Fuck all Frenchman!!!
[08:30] <Ububegin> ban meteor_
[08:31] <Ububegin> ops meteor_
[08:32] <amirman84> this is an amazing OS
[08:32] <de_vica> prada ikutan sini dunk
[08:32] <amirman84> is there a way to transfer a Wubi install to a regular install?
[08:33] <amirman84> i've been setting everything up for the past few hours, i'd hate for it all to be in vain
[08:33] <cloudedsky> amirman84 - look at LVPM http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438591
[08:39] <dubby> hey anyone, i have a program messing up that i wish to terminate, but it is not showing up on system monitor
[08:39] <dubby> its exaile and it tried to open a .wma and just went buggy
[08:39] <iVal> which app ?
[08:40] <dubby> exaile its like amarok for gnome
[08:40] <dubby> its not showing up in system monitor though
[08:40] <iVal> I do not use this
[08:40] <drivetrax> bazhang:  this is a good url for people wanting programs to run and do things with Linux..ubuntu.  http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/top-100-of-the-best-useful-opensource-applications/
[08:40] <amirman84> how do you open a system monitor or process manager anyway?
[08:41] <drivetrax> I had heard about WINE, the interpreter, is it any good, actually?
[08:41] <bazhang> drivetrax: thanks! ;]
[08:41] <DistroJockey> dubby: In a terminal,  ps -e   will list the processes, and you can type   killall processname     to kill it
[08:42] <DistroJockey> dubby: sudo killall   that is
[08:45] <dubby> man i cannot find exaile in there ANYWHERE
[08:45] <dubby> i know its running i can see it on my desktop
[08:46] <DistroJockey> hmm
[08:46] <dubby> im guessing its process name is different then exaile
[08:46] <drivetrax> what does that d?
[08:46] <drivetrax> do?
[08:48] <drivetrax> ohhh, like amarok
[08:49] <dubby> man i think im going to have some downtime just for listening to music
[08:49] <dubby> lol
[08:49] <DistroJockey> dubby: I see it uses Python, maybe you need to kill that (might break other things though)
[08:50] <dubby> hmm sudo killall python doesn't remove python from my list
[08:50] <Triox> what does it mean when Synaptic tells me "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/".  The last few days it would do that when trying to install programs
[08:51] <mr_boo> is the nvidia too supposed to work with the 8800gt?
[08:51] <dubby> Triox it means exactly that, synaptic is having trouble connectiong to the archive
[08:51] <dubby> maybe a firewall setting
[08:51] <zvacet> Triox : try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:51] <mr_boo> i chose 1280x960 and saved to X configuration file
[08:52] <mr_boo> yet it's 640x480 every time i restart
[08:52] <nooga> hi
[08:52] <mr_boo> maybe you could take a look at the file?
[08:52] <zvacet> mr_boo : sudo dpkg-recomfigure xserver-xorg
[08:52] <Triox> what port does synaptic try and connect through.  Maybe I need to open it up on my router
[08:52] <zvacet> zvacet *reconfigure
[08:53] <nooga> i followed that guide -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 and it works like charm, but i would like to undo it, how?
[08:53] <mimmix> ciao
[08:53] <mimmix> &list
[08:53] <bazhang> !it | mimmix
[08:53] <ubotu> mimmix: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:53] <mimmix> ok
[08:53] <mr_boo> zvacet: gonna try, thanks
[08:55] <nooga> i'd like to undo it because i can't connect to any network as a regular client via eth0 anymore
[08:55] <ogre> problems installing vmware workstation6 on ubuntu 7.10 heres a pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/7738/ . anybody know a fix
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> lo all
[08:56] <bazhang> ogre: workstation? that is a pay only app--have you asked the vmware forums about this?
[08:57] <mr_boo> zvacet: would've been nice if i could mess with graphics only
[08:58] <mr_boo> zvacet: rather than totally reconfigure X
[08:58] <Wicks> can anyone reccommend a terminal email client?
[08:58] <nooga> how to undo theese instructions? --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[08:59] <ogre> bazhang:  yeah ive asked 3 times in 5 hours with no response. i have to use workstation because i need sound support
[08:59] <bazhang> nooga what did you do--brief description please
[08:59] <KenSentMe> How can i remove a package that gives me this error on deletion? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63991/
[09:00] <bazhang> ogre: they provide you with a deb? a repo? how did you install it
[09:00] <nooga> bazhang: i just followed the instructions in that post
[09:00] <nooga> and now eth0 is only for sharing internet connection, i would like to normally use eth0 again
[09:01] <bella_yolanda> njhiomn
[09:01] <ogre> bazhang:  they gave me a tar.gz and i installed with ./vmware-config.pl
[09:01] <bella_yolanda> hai
[09:01] <blackmamba> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'  <<<<<<<< what does that mean ?!
[09:03] <zvacet> mr_boo : you can take defaults and just change resolution
[09:03] <bazhang> www.vmware.com/support/reference/linux/prebuilt_modules_linux.html ogre did you visit this site
[09:04] <ogre> bazhang:  i just figured it out. thanks alot though
[09:04] <bazhang> ogre: ok sorry not to be quicker
[09:04] <boubbin> !dhcp
[09:04] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[09:04] <boubbin> how to setup dhcp-server in ubuntu ?
[09:04] <boubbin> !dhcp-server
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcp-server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <jhoc2x> how to install my webcam?
[09:04] <neo_> i have problem
[09:05] <ogre> bazhang:  dont say sorry you are awesome. thanks alot
[09:05] <bazhang> jhoc2x: which web cam
[09:05] <bazhang> neo_: what is the issue
[09:05] <neo_> the make menuconfig give error
[09:05] <neo_> in kernel update
[09:05] <zvacet> mr_boo :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:05] <bazhang> neo_: what tutorial told you to make menuconfig
[09:06] <phoenix> Hi there, anyone successfully using an LDAP Directory as an Address Book while offline - I do say, that I want to have it off-line and it replicates fine, but as soon as I switch thunderbird off-line I get zero results from queries...
[09:06] <neo_> kernel compilation
[09:07] <neo_> help me
[09:07] <neo_> which package i install
[09:07] <X-Seti> jhoc2x, i found that only some work, logicteh ones seem to work out the box. http://ralph.n3rds.net/index.php?/archives/128-ubuntu-webcam.html
[09:07] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras jhoc2x is yours in this list
[09:07] <bazhang> neo_: which kernel?
[09:08] <Cheesypieces> hi guys can someone suggest a good alternative to firefox for me?
[09:08] <zvacet> Cheesypieces : Opera
[09:08] <mr_boo> zvacet: still the screen resolution is restored to 640x480 every time i restart X
[09:09] <bazhang> Cheesypieces: you can /msg ubotu browsers for a long list
[09:09] <mr_boo> zvacet: why?
[09:09] <prashant___> hello can i know a way to unmount
[09:09] <X-Seti> jhoc2x, when I switched to ubuntu, i found it was easiler for me to buy a supported webcam, i had a PCline one that just didnt work
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> mr_boo: are you editing xorg.conf as sudo/gksu
[09:09] <neo_> 2.6.25
[09:09] <mr_boo> ActionParsnip: yup
[09:09] <jhoc2x_> sorry i got Disconnected.. i'll have to ask again, how to install my webcam??? im just a noob, new to linux..(ubuntu)
[09:09] <zvacet> mr_boo : did you change it during reconfiguring
[09:09] <neo_> version is 2.6.25 latest release
[09:09] <KenSentMe> How can i remove a package that gives me this error on deletion? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63991/
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> mr_boo: if you remove all the other resolutions from xorg.conf it will have no other option
[09:10] <mr_boo> ActionParsnip: hmm
[09:10] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras look here jhoc2x_
[09:10] <Ergo^> hello guys
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> mr_boo: backup your xorg.conf before doing this
[09:10] <X-Seti> jhoc2x, i found that only some work, logicteh ones seem to work out the box. http://ralph.n3rds.net/index.php?/archives/128-ubuntu-webcam.html
[09:10] <X-Seti> jhoc2x, when I switched to ubuntu, i found it was easiler for me to buy a supported webcam, i had a PCline one that just didnt work
[09:10] <mr_boo> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php
[09:10] <Ergo^> does anyone here uses firebug with firefox  in hardy ?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Ergo^: just firefox for me
[09:10] <Humble> hello guys am having a problem here can someone help me out? i had ubuntu 7.10 and i upgrated to Kubuntu but when i start up and put my pass to login the screen flashes 2-3 times and then it bringing me back to login page dont know why i cant login
[09:10] <bazhang> Ergo^: some have reported the -16 kernel does not work with it
[09:11] <Ergo^> bazhang: so its kernell issue with firebug ?? :/
[09:11] <zvacet> KenSentMe :sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq packagename
[09:11] <prashant___> bazhang, please can u tell me a way to unmount a directory which i have mounted as my root drive :)
[09:11] <bazhang> Humble: how did you install kubuntu; what did you choose in session in login screen
[09:11] <fouad> what firefbug has to do with the kernel ??
[09:12] <KenSentMe> zvacet, thanks, but still the same error
[09:12] <Humble> bazhang let me check a sec restarting the laptoop now
[09:12] <dubby> ok anyone i get an error The playback of this movie requires a audio/x-asf-unknown decoder plugin which is not installed. in all media applications i run, yet i have ffmpeg installed which even in synaptics discription says it has asf
[09:12] <bazhang> Ergo^: just what some in Hardy channel have reported
[09:12] <fouad> prashant___, try umount
[09:13] <Ergo^> btw. i can treat my fresh RC install on par with final release - it will get updated correctly ?
[09:13] <zvacet> KenSentMe sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[09:13] <bazhang> Ergo^: aye
[09:13] <KenSentMe> zvacet, that doesnt work either
[09:13] <mr_boo> you're not gonna believe this
[09:13] <mr_boo> still reverts to 640x480 on restarting X
[09:13] <Humble> bazhang in session theres nothink selected
[09:13] <jhoc2x_> !webcam
[09:13] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:13] <mr_boo> and the only modeline i've got now is a 1280x960 one
[09:13] <x-Chat777> how can i make flash player not choppy on youtube, Avis play fine locally
[09:14] <Humble> bazhang it just shows me a list "default gnome kde xfce failsafe" nothink is selected
[09:14] <bazhang> humble did you try choosing kde
[09:14] <fx|RabBi1> hi all! i need atieventsd NOT to start on system startup, how do i do that?
[09:15] <fouad> .é,
[09:15] <prashant___> fouad: what is mtab
[09:15] <Humble> bazhang same think
[09:15] <Humble> bazhang nothink happened just screen flashed 2 times
[09:15] <prashant___> fouad, it says prashant@VAIO:~$ umount /home/prashant/Backup
[09:15] <prashant___> umount: /home/prashant/Backup is not mounted (according to mtab)
[09:15] <bazhang> humble you installed kubuntu-desktop?
[09:16] <zvacet> KenSentMe : locate packagename
[09:16] <Humble> yez
[09:16] <mr_boo> is there a way of determine if the /etc/X11/xorg.conf really is the file that the system uses
[09:16] <Humble> bazhang i think i installed only that
[09:16] <fouad> mtab = /etc/mtab
[09:17] <KenSentMe> zvacet, i got it allready, just created the folders dpkg wanted to delete and now i could remove the package without errors
[09:17] <mr_boo> zvacet: i've got some more questions
[09:17] <bazhang> humble that is odd; should just work--does gnome work?
[09:17] <mr_boo> zvacet: i've only one mode line 1280x960 in my xorg.conf now
[09:18] <mr_boo> zvacet: yet the resolution reverts to 640x480 on restarting X
[09:18] <Humble> bazhang no just tryed it dunno whats wrongs
[09:18] <mr_boo> zvacet: any ideas?
[09:18] <zvacet> mr_boo : no,sorry
[09:18] <prashant___> fouad, it is not present in mtab but the directory is mounted as when i open it - it opens my root "/" directory can u help?
[09:19] <Humble> bazhang how to i remove them? so i return to ubuntu ?
[09:19] <bazhang> humble if you /msg ubotu puregnome there is a link to follow on what to remove
[09:20] <fx|RabBi1> is everything in /etc/init.d being started automatically on systemstartup?
[09:20] <Cap_J_L_Picard> fx|RabBi1: no, not usually
[09:20] <zvacet> mr_boo Did you look under system>preferences<screen resolution to change it there
[09:20] <jhoc2x_> anyone here using Easycam?
[09:21] <x-Chat777> how can i make flash player not choppy on youtube,
[09:21] <fx|RabBi1> Cap_J_L_Picard: im looking for a way to remove atieventsd from system startup...
[09:22] <brady_k> hey
[09:22] <jhoc2x_> anyone here using EasyCam?
[09:22] <Cap_J_L_Picard> fx|RabBi1: remove the symlinks in /etc/rc*.d they are numbered to each runlevel.
[09:22] <Cap_J_L_Picard> only remove the symlinks you don't want to start though.
[09:23] <X-Seti> jhoc2x, why dont you use read the link we gave you, if you webcam isnt in that list, it's prop not going to work.
[09:23] <fx|RabBi1> Cap_J_L_Picard: yeah i just realized, tank you mate it was in rc0
[09:23] <Cap_J_L_Picard> x-Chat777: Are you watching a hight or low quality version?
[09:23] <Humble> bazhang ?
[09:23] <jhoc2x_> ooppss.. my bad.. ^_^  sorry
[09:23] <bazhang> aye Humble
[09:24] <prashant___> hello ! i am a bit stuck here :) as i have mounted a directory /home/prashant/Backup using - "sudo mount /dev/sdb3/ /home/prashant/Backup" and now when i try to unmount it using umount /home/prashant/Backup . It says that it is not mounted (acc to mtab) but the directory is mounted as it shows the content of my root(or dev/sdb3)....
[09:24] <Humble> bazhang i did used the sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop command but it doesnt unistalls them lol
[09:24] <x-Chat777> my videos only chop when i stream. otherwise they play fine
[09:24] <bazhang> !puregnome | Humble read this link
[09:24] <ubotu> Humble read this link: If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>
[09:25] <Cap_J_L_Picard> x-Chat777: yeah, that's ecause your net connection is too slow.
[09:25] <bazhang> x-Chat777: youtube?
[09:25] <x-Chat777> audio does'nt chop
[09:25] <zvacet> Humble :http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[09:25] <Cap_J_L_Picard> x-Chat777: tell youtube you want low quality.
[09:25] <Humble> bazhang i done that
[09:25] <fayetteson> can anyone offer up some good third party repositories other than the default ones ?
[09:25] <bazhang> Humble: no you didnt
[09:26] <x-Chat777> i click low quality
[09:26] <pipsqeek> fayetteson: usually you just pick the ones from your continent.
[09:26] <bazhang> Humble: read the link and unistall all the apps it tells you
[09:26] <x-Chat777> even tweaked about;conf
[09:26] <fayetteson> thaks pipsqeek
[09:26] <zvacet> Humble : read under remove Kubuntu
[09:26] <bazhang> x-Chat777: get youtube-dl
[09:27] <pipsqeek> fayetteson: best to google ubuntu mirrors for your country and just change the URL's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:27] <bazhang> fayetteson: third party repos are not a good idea
[09:28] <fredmv> Anyone familar with avimerge?
[09:28] <pclynch> whats the easiest way to set up a boot manager for ubuntu?
[09:28] <bazhang> fayetteson: will break things
[09:28] <x-Chat777> does youtube-dl stream in firefox
[09:28] <HSNews> how to install Sphinx on Ubuntu? I get error on ./configure: ERROR: cannot find MySQL include files.
[09:28] <bullgard4> Where can I find a classification of the 109 terminal fonts that Ubuntu offers?
[09:28] <HSNews> Sphinx - I mean Sphinx Search Engine
[09:28] <fredmv> I'm trying to merge like 17 AVI's togther, but when I view the output video, the audio is off.  It works for the first couple minutes, and then, it just doesn't line up.
[09:28] <alex__> hi all
[09:29] <dubby> hey anyone im trying to get wma on amarok anyone know the libs i can use?
[09:29] <dubby> i also have ffmpeg installed
[09:29] <bazhang> x-Chat777: nay; it dl's them; you can then watch with vlc etc
[09:30] <zvacet> dubby :Amarok play wma fine do you have plugins?
[09:30] <x-Chat777> they used to play on gutsy
[09:30] <pclynch> whats the easiest way to set up a boot manager for ubuntu?
[09:30] <bazhang> x-Chat777: just an option; flash is so unstable via ff these days it is nice to have other choices
[09:31] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I have installed some applications. Although each of them came with its own .desktop file, yet some of them are not appearing in the  corresponding menu. What is the reason? Does someone know some possible solution?
[09:31] <prashant___> hello ! i am a bit stuck here :) as i have mounted a directory /home/prashant/Backup using - "sudo mount /dev/sdb3/ /home/prashant/Backup" and now when i try to unmount it using umount /home/prashant/Backup . It says that it is not mounted (acc to mtab) but the directory is mounted as it shows the content of my root(or dev/sdb3)....
[09:31] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: installed how
[09:31] <motti> hi all.
[09:32] <x-Chat777> is there a player that doent glitch
[09:32] <motti> is it possible to run symphony one from a usb drive?
[09:32] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: through Synaptic.
[09:32] <esperegu> I SUDDENLY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH CAPS LOCK> ANYONE  knows if it might be influenced by an update? I am really getting creazy here!! :-(
[09:32] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: which apps?
[09:32] <esperegu> WHEN I press shift capslock enables.
[09:33] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: some games.
[09:33] <bazhang> esperegu: stay away from shift ;]
[09:33] <pipsqeek> that's what Shift is suppose to do
[09:33] <esperegu> bazhang: that is kinda hart
[09:33] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: give me an example I will download it
[09:33] <esperegu> pipsqeek: not stay on
[09:33] <esperegu> only when you keep pressing it
[09:33] <pipsqeek> broken keyboard?
[09:33] <esperegu> also my ctrl seems to lock up
[09:33] <knightWse> does anybody know why this crontab line does not run ? 30 23   * * *   root    scp -rv trinityssh@<IP_ADDRESS>:/var/www/ /home/backups/daily/
[09:34] <esperegu> pipsqeek: hope not
[09:34] <mr_boo> zvacet: now it works
[09:34] <motti> anyone?
[09:34] <mr_boo> zvacet: thanks
[09:34] <bazhang> esperegu: sounds like hardware issue
[09:34] <zvacet> mr_boo :good
[09:34] <esperegu> :-(
[09:34]  * pipsqeek agrees wih bazhang
[09:34] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: One of them was antigravitaattori
[09:34] <mr_boo> zvacet: will this necessarily work with the realtime kernel as well as the generic (which i'm using now)?
[09:35] <esperegu> I TRY TO RUN A PROGRAM BUT IT SAIDS:
[09:35] <esperegu> No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
[09:35] <esperegu> environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
[09:35] <esperegu> running this program.
[09:35] <FloodBot2> esperegu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <bazhang> !info antigravitaattori
[09:35] <ubotu> antigravitaattori (source: antigrav): Multiplayer flying saucer racing game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.2-4 (gutsy), package size 1459 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[09:35] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: another one is acm
[09:35] <esperegu> I HAVE BOTH SUN AND OS JAVA
[09:35] <zvacet> mr_boo : I hope so,but I never used it so I don´t know for sure
[09:35] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: and xtux
[09:35] <esperegu> I tried to add it to path but that does not work
[09:35] <knightWse> esperegu, DONT shout !
[09:35] <esperegu> hahahaha
[09:35] <pipsqeek> knightWse: the syntax looks wrong
[09:36] <motti> is it possible to run symphony one from a usb drive?
[09:36] <bazhang> his capslock is broken bad kb
[09:36] <esperegu> knightWse: I thnik that you did not read why I AM HERE
[09:36] <esperegu> MY KEYBOARD CAPS LOCK GETS STUCK
[09:36] <mr_boo> why do some graphics drivers only work with the generic kernel?
[09:36] <esperegu> AT LEAST> SOFTWARE
[09:36] <pipsqeek> esperegu: what happens when you use the other shift key?
[09:36] <esperegu> dammit
[09:36] <fredmv> Is anyone familar with avimerge?  I can't figure out why the audio isn't matching the video... ;\
[09:36] <grigris> hi
[09:36] <mutk> esperegu, Please understand - Using caps is considered rude and disruptive. Stop it now.
[09:36] <esperegu> pipsqeek: I HAVE SPECIAL KEYBOARD >
[09:37] <bazhang> mutk his kb is borked
[09:37] <albech> give him a break guys.. its the reason he is here
[09:37] <knightWse> pipsqeek, any idea what is wrong  ? The command works , but it are the timing things
[09:37] <bottiger> I have a computer which gets it's IP from a dhcp-server. Is there a way to ask for a specifik IP ?
[09:37] <grigris> i want ask somthink pls
[09:37] <bottiger> (on a local network)
[09:37] <pipsqeek> lol, okay. unfortunately you are about to get kicked off here. sadly.
[09:37] <esperegu> pipsqeek: that's why i need to run that program to see if the keyboard is still ok.
[09:37] <mr_boo> does anyone here use the 8800gt with the realtime kernel?
[09:38] <pipsqeek> bottiger: yeah, assign your MAC address to a specific IP address on the DHCP server.
[09:38] <esperegu> anyone knows how to fix the javapath stuff?
[09:38] <mutk> esperegu, I don't think any java application will help you here.
[09:38] <grigris> tell me the site of openGL pls
[09:38] <esperegu> mutk: it is the Program for the keyboard
[09:38] <pipsqeek> grigris: http://www.opengl.org/
[09:39] <bazhang> esperegu: you had the problem with the kb that wrote upside down too, right?
[09:39] <grigris> thnks
[09:39] <esperegu> mutk: it's a .bin file. how can I START IT WITH grrrrrrrr a specific java?
[09:39] <esperegu> bazhang: not that I know
[09:40] <bazhang> esperegu: hmm maybe I mis-remembered ;]
[09:40] <motti> hello. does anyone know of symphony one distro?
[09:40] <bazhang> motti: how is that related to ubuntu
[09:40] <pipsqeek> lol
[09:40] <motti> because symphony one is an ubuntu based distro
[09:40] <bazzieb> how do i change the rights of the logged in user so i have access to edit and save files like smb.conf and other config files??
[09:41] <mr_boo> do different kernels use different drivers?
[09:41] <bazhang> motti: ubuntu-based is not = ubuntu
[09:41] <mr_boo> bazzieb: $ sudo su
[09:41] <bwayne> bazzieb:  is your current user in the sudoers file?
[09:41] <Yudha> jjhjh
[09:41] <motti> bazhang. here I thought that people would be nice and will glad to help a human being
[09:41] <bazzieb> i dont know, how do i check?
[09:41] <motti> silly me
[09:41] <esperegu> how can I run this so it will work: http://esperegu.pastebin.com/d329b6be5
[09:41] <mr_boo> do different kernels use the same xorg.conf file?
[09:41] <bazhang> motti: go to www.ubuntu.com/download get the real deal, and then we can talk
[09:42] <bazhang> motti: indeed silly you
[09:42] <bwayne> bazzieb: type 'sudo' in the command line, give it your password, and then it'll tell you if you're not.
[09:42] <mr_boo> esperegu: just install it in synaptic
[09:42] <pipsqeek> motti: there's a difference. You don't go to a petrol station and ask for crude oil. It's all from the same thing though, right?
[09:42] <mr_boo> esperegu: or with $ sudo apt-get install blahblah
[09:42] <mutk> esperegu, If java is installed 'somewhere' usually it is enough to add the location to your PATH
[09:42] <motti> I KNOW what ubuntu is. the problem is that ubuntu stopped supporting my hardware and I need to search other distro
[09:43] <bazhang> motti: go into #debian and ask for ubuntu help
[09:43] <zvacet> motti : rty #linux
[09:43] <bwayne> motti: try dsl linux for older hardware.
[09:43] <mr_boo> does anyone know if different kernels use the same xorg.conf file?
[09:44] <bazhang> http://www.symphonyos.com/forum/ motti
[09:44] <mutk> esperegu, PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin  ./setupfingerworks160.bin
[09:44] <esperegu> mr_boo: not everything is in synaptic
[09:44] <bazzieb> it accepts my password but when i make changes to the smb.conf file with gedit it says i dont have permission to do this
[09:44] <motti> please, one second.
[09:44] <pipsqeek> bazzieb: add sudo to the front of it
[09:44] <bwayne> bazzieb: use the command 'gksudo gedit /etc/smb.conf'
[09:44] <mr_boo> esperegu: maybe you need to download those packages from somewhere then
[09:44] <esperegu> mutk: then I GET A Bad : modifier in $ (/).
[09:44] <bazzieb> cool
[09:45] <esperegu> grr... sorry
[09:45] <mr_boo> do different kernels use the very same xorg.conf file?
[09:45] <motti> I used ubuntu for a great deal of time. but ever since 7.10 my wifi card isn't supported.
[09:45] <pipsqeek> mine too.
[09:45] <mutk> esperegu, Hold on..
[09:45] <pipsqeek> so I used different drivers
[09:45] <motti> I know it crashes with my video card and ubuntu were the first to handle the problem.
[09:45] <Ace_NoOne> hi there - when I do "apt-get install [already-installed package]", why does it sometimes say "1 newly installed"? is that an update then?
[09:45] <bwayne> bazzieb: your normal user has to invoke higher priviledges before it can edit files owned by root.  that's what sudo and gksudo do, evoke permissions.
[09:45] <bazhang> motti syphony is based on debian--you should ask there according to your logic
[09:46] <mr_boo> everytime i start realtime kernel my nvidia 8800gt doesn't work
[09:46] <pipsqeek> lol
[09:46] <mr_boo> grrr
[09:46] <motti> I thought people would be nice
[09:46] <bazzieb> thanks very much guys
[09:46] <bazzieb> its works
[09:46] <pipsqeek> we are, we're telling you accurate information
[09:46] <bazzieb> as always
[09:46] <motti> won't you pick an old lady to hospital even though you are not a driver?
[09:46] <motti> bye
[09:46] <bazhang> we are motti; but it is debian-based not ubuntu-based
[09:46] <pipsqeek> telling you where you can find a better answer.
[09:47] <mr_boo> grr
[09:47] <mutk> esperegu, What shell are you using ?
[09:47] <motti> Based on ubuntu 7.10 with all the latest updates.
[09:47] <motti> this is a direct quote from symphony one website
[09:47] <bazhang> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=symphony
[09:47] <esperegu> mutk: i think csh
[09:48] <mutk> esperegu, Any particular reason?
[09:48] <bazhang> at any rate motti it is offtopic here
[09:48] <pipsqeek> motti: look. they have a forum.
[09:48] <pipsqeek> http://symphonyos.com/forum/
[09:49] <SirDidi> knows anybody how i can add a loop in Selenium IDE?
[09:49] <esperegu> mutk: don't remember. I configured that a long time ago. probably because it was also on the servers or so
[09:49] <mutk> esperegu, chsh /bin/bash   and see if that helps.
[09:49] <motti> bazhang, this is so irrelevant. if people would start talking about something not computer oriented you wouldn't make that remark
[09:50] <bazhang> motti pm me your question and I will go to their forums for you
[09:50] <bullgard4> Where can I find a classification of the 109 terminal fonts that Ubuntu offers?
[09:50] <mr_boo> am i the only one who tries to use the 8800gt with the realtime kernel?
[09:50] <esperegu> mutk: chsh: unknown user /bin/bash
[09:50] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo:  i use 8800GTS 512 with RT kernel...close
[09:51] <motti> bazhang, this is not what I wanted. I have actually a pretty general question and I was hoping to find somewhat of computer guru here
[09:51] <mutk> esperegu, Sorry   chsh -s /bin/bash
[09:51] <pipsqeek> motti: but they have a forum! http://symphonyos.com/forum/
[09:51] <gogeta> motti well your defently in the right place
[09:51] <pipsqeek> best source of knowledge for your enquiry
[09:51] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: does one have to do any special magic to get the card to work with the realtime kernel specifically?
[09:51] <bazhang> okay motti; let me know if you change your mind
[09:52] <pipsqeek> what was the question anyway. we haven't even got to that.
[09:52] <motti> gogeta?
[09:52] <Humble> bazhang how can i enable and connec to my wireless internet from "terminal" ?
[09:52] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: i did NOT have to do anything special ... I am using the nvidia drivers, if that matters
[09:52] <bazhang> symphony from a usb gogeta
[09:52] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, does anyone know how to view youtube videos in opera?
[09:52] <motti> pipsqeek, there forum is quit numbed
[09:53] <pipsqeek> ah well, you should pick a more supported distro dude.
[09:53] <mutk> motti, I don't understand what you just said..
[09:53] <bazhang> gogeta debian-based sympony os
[09:53] <esperegu> mutk: I keep getting: chsh: PAM authentication failed
[09:53] <gogeta> bazhang: oh
[09:53] <pipsqeek> so. what's the question, in full? not just one word followed by a question mark
[09:53] <mutk> esperegu, Right. Looks like it has been restricted.
[09:53] <gogeta> bazhang: thast would be a google search lol
[09:54] <motti> pipsqeek, or maybe more supported distro should stop messing around with the kernel, I used aubuntu for 2 years before I had to switch distro
[09:54] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: in my case i can start the generic and it works
[09:54] <esperegu> mutk: got it. looks like it's hard to type passwrds on this keyboard ;-)
[09:54] <mutk> esperegu, Aha.
[09:54] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: but as soon as i start the realtime one i can only run in low graphics mode
[09:54] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: wait i forgot..if you are using the nvidia drivers you must re-install them anytime the kernel changes
[09:54] <user11_011> how do i unzip packages without ^M in each line
[09:54] <pipsqeek> motti: anyway, that's not really offering me any information to help you.
[09:54] <bazhang> gogeta one step ahead of you ;]
[09:54] <gogeta> bazhang why that i ask
[09:55] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: that is probably it - I had to check my blog to recall what I did and I made a note of the re-install of drivers
[09:55] <mutk> esperegu, Try this    echo $PATH     then   export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin  and echo $PATH again
[09:55] <motti> is there anyone here willing to help me?
[09:55] <bazhang> gogeta that is motti's question for #ubuntu ;]
[09:55] <pipsqeek> motti: so, what's the question, in full.
[09:55] <pipsqeek> motti: ask the question!
[09:55] <Humble> anyoen know how can i enable and connect to my wireless internet from "terminal" ?
[09:55] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, does anyone know how to view youtube videos in opera? it just comes up blank
[09:55] <mutk> esperegu, After that run    which java  It should show the java from the /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/b directory
[09:56] <user11_011> how do i unzip packages without ^M in each line
[09:56] <drivetrax> Cheesypieces:  Do you have Flash player 9 ?
[09:56] <gogeta> motti google tells all
[09:57] <bazhang> Humble: sure; what do you see in ifconfig three entries or two
[09:57] <gogeta> :-D
[09:57] <motti> I want to run symphony one live cd from my usb flash drive. the guides for running livecd's from usb drive are all stating I should change a certain file name isolinux.cfg but I don't have that file I wanted to know if there other operation for creating a live cd
[09:57] <zvacet> Cheesypieces : which version of Opera do you use? Opera 9.27 have problems with flash.Try Opera 9.50 beta
[09:57] <drivetrax> well.. google does not tell certain things
[09:57] <Cheesypieces> drivetrax: i think so, i've been using firefox which has been working fine
[09:57] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com motti
[09:57] <tobias> user11_011, unzip the files and run dos2unix on them
[09:57] <esperegu> mutk: still get the error Bad : modifier in $ (/). on the export line
[09:58] <Muhammad_Saad> I need a graphical tool for recovering lost files.  Does anyone know any?
[09:58] <gogeta> isolinux.cfg you defently have that somewhre
[09:58] <motti> I read their guide, that's what they say
[09:58] <gogeta> or linux would not load
[09:58] <drivetrax> Cheesypieces:  And, install flash for Opera..
[09:58] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: gui? how about cli
[09:58] <mutk> esperegu,  Show the result of   echo $PATH please/
[09:58] <gogeta> unless grub itsself is on the cd
[09:58] <andy81>  8-)
[09:58] <Slart> Muhammad_Saad: testdisk is the only one I know.. it's text based but it's still select and press enter instead of point and click
[09:58] <user11_011> tobias - can i run it on a directory
[09:59] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: testdisk and photorec
[09:59] <esperegu> mutk:
[09:59] <esperegu> laptop:~> echo $PATH
[09:59] <esperegu> /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/jh
[09:59] <mutk> motti, Got a link to the guide you are refering to?
[09:59] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: would you recommend using the "envy" script?
[09:59] <motti> http://linux.web.psi.ch/livecd/usbdisk.html
[09:59] <bazhang> hardy or gutsy mr_boo
[09:59] <codedmind> hy there
[09:59] <Ziroday> !envy | mr_boo
[09:59] <ubotu> mr_boo: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[10:00] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: How do I recover a tar.gz file with testdisk or photorec?
[10:00] <tobias> user11_011, read the man page, but from the top of my head, no, but you can run it in a loop for each file in a directory
[10:00] <mutk> esperegu,  Can you show me the exact command you run ? copy and paste it and the output.
[10:00] <Ziroday> codedmind: hey
[10:00] <gogeta> Muhammad_Saad you download it again
[10:00] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: you have tried them?
[10:00] <motti> mutk: this is the one I've been using, pendirve linux tend to be distro specific and their ubuntu part ask for the same file
[10:00] <mr_boo> thanks
[10:00] <mr_boo> gonna try
[10:00] <codedmind> Anyone can help me listen web radio behind proxy school ?
[10:00] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: well, I HAVE used it in the past when I got so frustrated trying to do install the nvidia drivers manually. So, my experience is give it a good try first yourself, and then if that fails, try envy
[10:00] <fx|RabBitt> how do i set a systemvariable?
[10:00] <codedmind> i can listen in windows and media player, but in ubuntu can't
[10:01] <fx|RabBitt> like for example $DISPLAY?
[10:01] <Syntux> is there anyway to point source.list config into a local ISO file ?
[10:01] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: I have tried testdisk, photorec and magicrescue.
[10:01] <Humble> anyoen know how can i enable and connect to my wireless internet from "terminal" ?
[10:01] <gogeta> bazhang lol you knoe recovery in linux = dammed near inpossable unless its still in /tmp
[10:01] <mutk> motti, Got a link to the guide you are refering to?  <-- I mean a web link. If you are trying to send a file me via IRC do not do that
[10:01] <Ziroday> codedmind: unfortunatly with web radio takes up alot of band width so will be really slow through a proxy, what country are you in?
[10:01] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: what tar.gz
[10:01] <pipsqeek> mutk: they pasted a link
[10:01] <codedmind> Portugal
[10:01] <pipsqeek> http://linux.web.psi.ch/livecd/usbdisk.html
[10:01] <tobias> fx|RabBitt, "export $DISPLAY=<whatever>"
[10:02] <motti> mutk: http://linux.web.psi.ch/livecd/usbdisk.html
[10:02] <codedmind> at the moment i'm connect to a remote windows desktop so i can listen the radio...
[10:02] <fx|RabBitt> tobias:  THABKS A LOT!
[10:02] <mutk> Aha. motti Thanks
[10:02] <bazhang> gogeta aye but have to give something hopeful right?
[10:02] <codedmind> (in school the connection is fast!!)
[10:02] <esperegu> mutk: http://esperegu.pastebin.com/d20cf5121
[10:02] <pipsqeek> lol. i must be on ignore or something
[10:02] <codedmind> http://mix.clix.pt/asx/outros/mix96.asx
[10:03] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: Some days ago I had saved my Thunderbird profile in a tar.gz file and now I have damaged my Thunderbird profile. So i am looking for a way to recover that archive.
[10:03] <codedmind> this is the address i can't listen in ubuntu
[10:03] <gogeta> Muhammad_Saad as i said man the cances are slim
[10:03] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: testdisk and photrec are the best bets unless you want to pay pros to do it for you
[10:03] <pipsqeek> codedmind: does ubuntu refer to the proxy? as I imagine Windows does
[10:04] <gogeta> bazhang even pros cry if you say nix
[10:04] <codedmind> pipsqeek: i don't know... i try vlc, with proxy and without
[10:04] <codedmind> and always get a refused connection
[10:04] <hzu> REISER FOUND GUILTY, SENTENCING FRIDAY
[10:04] <hzu> :(
[10:04] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: So there is no GUI?
[10:04] <bazhang> hzu: no spam please
[10:04] <hzu> Oh yeah
[10:04] <mutk> esperegu, Ok I think I have it..    setenv PATH ${PATH}:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin
[10:04] <hzu> You really know what's going on in the opensource world
[10:05] <jpatrick> !ot > hzu
[10:05] <Muhammad_Saad> +
[10:05] <hzu> care-meter: [..............]   0%
[10:05] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: not really the point; the chances are small in any event and those are the best choice minux paying others to do it
[10:05] <Muhammad_Saad> sorry I accidentally ht the enter key.
[10:05] <gogeta> hzu woa no way
[10:05] <hzu> Dave2: sup mah boy
[10:05] <codedmind> Unable to open 'mms://<IP_ADDRESS>/96promo/promomix.wma?MSWMExt=.asf'
[10:05] <codedmind> Unable to open 'mms://<IP_ADDRESS>:80/96promo/promomix.wma?MSWMExt=.asf'
[10:05] <codedmind> Unable to open 'mms://<IP_ADDRESS>/96promo/promomix.wma?MSWMExt=.asf'
[10:05] <codedmind> Unable to open 'mms://<IP_ADDRESS>:80/96promo/promomix.wma?MSWMExt=.asf'
[10:05] <FloodBot2> codedmind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:05] <hzu> gogeta: way, its all over digg.com
[10:05] <speedhunt3r> hey if i play an .rm file from terminal using mplayer, i can maximize the video... but if i play the same file normally, not going through terminal, I maxmize the window but the video doesn't maximize... what could be the problem?
[10:05] <gogeta> :'(
[10:05] <codedmind> that is what i get :s
[10:05] <ripdisk> i just updated to hardy and when i get into gnome everything's blank
[10:06] <ripdisk> but it works when i use the ''failsafe gnome''
[10:06] <bazhang> hzu: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[10:06] <jpatrick> codedmind: please use the pastebin
[10:06] <gogeta> hzu guess he couldent bribe the right people
[10:06] <esperegu> mutk: http://esperegu.pastebin.com/d52ad02d8 (the java still points to /usr/bin though)
[10:06] <ripdisk> is this a normal problem? does using the failsafe limit me or something?
[10:06] <Slart> ripdisk: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <hzu> I guess he couldn't
[10:06] <ripdisk> slart: ten four,
[10:06] <codedmind> jpatrick: sorry :(
[10:07] <mutk> esperegu, So how come if there was a java in the PATH to begin with you have this problem?
[10:07] <gogeta> hzu M$ fear oss now we kill are wifes
[10:07] <guja_nebeska> Good Morning.
[10:07] <gogeta> >:o
[10:07] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: As far as I can understand, photorec is designed especially to recover photos. Please correct me if I am wrong.
[10:08] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: And how do I tell photorec to scan a certain directory?
[10:08] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: testdisk/photrec are the only tools I know of if  have formatted the drive
[10:08] <mr_boo> now i'm on the realtime kernel
[10:08] <codedmind> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63994/ can understadn, i define proxy in vlc but then he try to connect trought port 80
[10:08] <gogeta> Muhammad_Saad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[10:08] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: nary a clue, have never used it
[10:09] <mr_boo> when i attempt to start the nvidia-settings tool i get this mess "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[10:09] <gogeta> Muhammad_Saad when i say slim to 0 i mean it thats why
[10:09] <Ziroday> mr_boo: how did you install the driver?>
[10:10] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: usually when I have this problem it is because the "vesa" driver is being used. This means the "nvidia" driver was not installed.
[10:10] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: OK, How do I tell photorec to recover files only from a certain directory?
[10:10] <pipsqeek> motti: considering symphonyos is based on deb/ubuntu, why not follow a mare suitable howto. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:10] <mr_boo> Ziroday: i did it from the generic kernel
[10:10] <mr_boo> Ziroday: it works in that kernel only
[10:10] <Ziroday> mr_boo: _how_ did you install the drivers, via the restricted drivers manager?
[10:10] <mr_boo> Ziroday: yeah
[10:11] <drivetrax> ah.. good sleep..
[10:11] <gogeta> Ziroday check it
[10:11] <gogeta> lol
[10:11] <mr_boo> Ziroday: only the generic kernel understands to use the nvidia driver
[10:11] <mr_boo> Ziroday: the realtime kernel uses vesa for some reason
[10:11] <pipsqeek> motti: I did this a few weeks ago when I placed Ubuntu on a USB key so I could live boot it for going on my EeePC
[10:11] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: did you re-install the drivers? since they are complied against the kernel headers, this must be done everytime the kernel changes....oh, nvm I mean the drivers from nvidia proper, not the ones from the restricted driver manager ... you will need to install the drivers from nvidia manually I think
[10:12] <gogeta> eeepc :-X
[10:12] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: envy did the job for the generic kernel
[10:12] <gogeta> smaller is not beter
[10:12] <Ziroday> mr_boo: I am sorry I don't follow, are you in the generic or the realtime kernel currently?
[10:12] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: so why shouldn't it work with the realtime kernel?
[10:12] <mr_boo> Ziroday: i'm on realtime currently
[10:12] <pipsqeek> gogeta: it is for me. as I have a 17" MacBook Pro.
[10:12] <mr_boo> Ziroday: and i want it to work here as well
[10:13] <Lowkey421> how do people download music (ex. p2p) on linux?
[10:13] <gogeta> pipsqeek then why drop 400$ for a basic system
[10:13] <pipsqeek> gogeta: comes in handy when I'm out and about to administer clients network
[10:13] <gogeta> owkey421 we dont
[10:13] <pipsqeek> gogeta: Oh, I didn't pay for the EeePC. I'm an authorised Asus distributer in Australia. ;)
[10:13] <Lowkey421> gogeta: dont lie
[10:14] <gogeta> pipsqeek lol
[10:14] <Lowkey421> gogeta: you know you download music illegally like everyone else
[10:14] <Lowkey421> now teach me :{
[10:14] <andcorps> hi
[10:14] <gogeta> pipsqeek < never buy one now
[10:14] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: I don't know enough about how envy works to guess. On this machine (which is x86_64 rt), I install the drivers myself after downloading from nvidia
[10:14] <andcorps> guys
[10:14] <mr_boo> my feeling is that envy doesn't do it's job on the realtime kernel
[10:14] <gogeta> lol
[10:14] <andcorps> still need help about my earphone config on ubuntu 7.1
[10:14] <gogeta> you will send me the bad ones
[10:15] <pipsqeek> gogeta: why not. I seem to be moving them out the door. though sales have slowed since the 900 model announcment.
[10:15] <bazhang> !piracy | Lowkey421
[10:15] <ubotu> Lowkey421: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[10:15] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: Did you install those applications? Are you having the same situation?
[10:15] <esperegu> mutk: I don't know. I just give you the output as I see it. it still complaints but I now get another error: http://esperegu.pastebin.com/d11753aaf
[10:15] <codedmind> that radio this is really a wall to the past!!!
[10:15] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: well I had xtux already installed and it went fine
[10:15] <lordmorgoth> hey guys. i deleted some of the groups on my pc, by mistake. i couldn't log into X, i recreated the group gdm, but still there are a lot of them missing, do u know anyway to restore the default groups or a list of them ?
[10:15] <gogeta> pipsqeek asues are ok if tey only had decent video
[10:15] <Lowkey421> thanks ubotu
[10:16] <codedmind> that radio problem is really a walk to the PAST
[10:16] <Lowkey421> oops bazhang lol
[10:16] <codedmind> that things shouldn't happen!!!
[10:16] <gogeta> pipsqeek stop putting intel crap in them
[10:16] <andcorps> hello
[10:16] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: Did the menu item for xtux appear in the applications menu?
[10:16] <andcorps> can anyone help me with my earphone config
[10:16] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: went well yes
[10:17] <quentusrex_> anyone know about running Folding@Home on a multicore ubuntu machine?
[10:17] <andcorps>  tried everything
[10:17] <pipsqeek> gogeta: well, the EeePC is hardly aimed at the big screen market. and if I had the choice. yes, I'd go with AMD. I'm also a Shuttle X PC dealer and I barely sell them with Intel chips. GO AMD
[10:17] <gogeta> pipsqeek im talking video
[10:17] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: Then what can be the reason?
[10:17] <lordmorgoth> anyone ?
[10:18] <gogeta> pipsqeek even a cheap via is better
[10:18] <Ziroday> gogeta: I also have a EeePC and find them great
[10:18] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: you using kde?
[10:18] <pipsqeek> gogeta: what use would a better video chipset have on such a small screen. It supports compiz
[10:18] <gogeta> pipsqeek a ati mobilty with hypermemery
[10:18] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: GNOME on Edubuntu.
[10:18] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: ah; kde4 Hardy here
[10:18] <pipsqeek> gogeta: that's the problem. you do that, you start jacking up the price. you do that, you lose the target market.
[10:19] <pipsqeek> you want that, you go get a better laptop
[10:19] <gogeta> pipsqeek those are cheap shared cards to
[10:19] <gogeta> pipsqeek just not intel
[10:19] <bazhang> heys guys how about joining #eeepc
[10:19] <pipsqeek> lol
[10:19] <codedmind> i know the big problem is with how put the radio in mms
[10:19] <codedmind> but that is thw world we have!!!
[10:19] <NLS> hello - I've got a question mostly because of curiosity: is there any reason the DVD distribution is SO hard to find? everything seems to "push" you towards the CD builds and you have to dig hard to reach a DVD one
[10:20] <gogeta> pipsqeek and preform 100x better
[10:20] <codedmind> i'm see that i will forced to move again to windows because of that!!!
[10:20] <mr_boo> omg
[10:20] <bazhang> sorry to hear that codedmind
[10:20] <mr_boo> nowhere in the xorg.conf file i can see that vesa is chosen
[10:20] <mr_boo> yet i always get the vesa driver on restart
[10:20] <mr_boo> omg
[10:20] <bazhang> NLS: hard to find? ubuntu gutsy dvd iso top link or so will do it
[10:21] <Ziroday> NLS: because DVD's are hard to buy and burn, as well as expensive for one time uses and take longer to download
[10:21] <bazhang> NLS: need that link?
[10:21] <codedmind> bazhang: the big problem is why in windows it work!!!
[10:22] <ushimitsudoki> Is there some way to send a window to a different X Screen?
[10:22] <codedmind> bazhang:  the mms door is closed too... so if media player can tunnel it to http proxy why linux can't!?
[10:22] <NLS> baz thanks I have found a DVD build even for RC, but I don't see where you saw that "dvd iso top link" :)
[10:22] <bazhang> codedmind: dont really know about windows or streaming radio
[10:22] <codedmind> bazhang: yeah right
[10:22] <ultrav1olet> How can I install freetype (libfreetype6) with BYTECODE interpreter and improvements for LCD display? I can compile freetype manually but I'd like to know if there's an official way of doing that
[10:23] <ultrav1olet> In Fedora I would grab src.rpm and recompile - and what ubuntu users should do?
[10:23] <NLS> bazhang the two most obvious locations are: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04 ...where is the DVD?
[10:23] <bazhang> ultrav1olet: build-essential to compile
[10:24] <quentusrex_> how do I tell I have a 64 bit Os if I know I have the -generic kernel?
[10:24] <mr_boo> well
[10:24] <quentusrex_> which I know is the smp kernel?
[10:24] <mr_boo> it appears as if envy doesn't do the job on the realtime kernel
[10:24] <mr_boo> crappp
[10:24] <ultrav1olet> Installing build-essential is the easiest task :-)
[10:24] <bazhang> !brainstorm | NLS
[10:24] <ubotu> NLS: Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[10:24] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: you will have to download the drivers from nvidia and try to manually install. it can be a pain to get it working the first time
[10:24] <Ziroday> ultrav1olet: I am not sure if this has all the stuff you want but there is a libfree6 package
[10:24] <ultrav1olet> How can I recompile freetupe?
[10:25] <ultrav1olet> Ziroday: It's there for sure
[10:25] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: the thing is that i could use my older nvidia on both kernels
[10:25] <NLS> erm... ok thanks (!?)
[10:25] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: envy did the job for that card on both kernels
[10:26] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: well give it a shot, maybe you will be lucky
[10:27] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: gonna try
[10:27] <quentusrex_> How do I know if I have the 64-bit OS installed if I know I have the -generic kernel image.
[10:27] <mr_boo> shame that envy is so half impressing
[10:27] <mr_boo> this is a jungle
[10:28] <ushimitsudoki> quentusrex_: uname -a will show kernel look for x86_64
[10:28] <quentusrex_> Linux quentusrex-desktop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:28] <zvacet> quentusrex_ 32
[10:29] <quentusrex_> thanks
[10:29] <tarkus> hmm, for some reason regardless of the OS im using, if i install something and try to set it up and i fail, and things just get messy trying to figure out the problem, etc.. whenever i do figure out the problem, i always have a gut feeling that there are still orphan files or something still strange about the system, and i usualy re-install the os and then do it the right way..
[10:30] <Ziroday> tarkus: and how can we help you?
[10:30] <tarkus> this gets really anoying, i guess there is no way for me to be sure that my system has no unnessesary files, and is running normally?
[10:30] <bazhang> !info deborphan
[10:30] <ubotu> deborphan (source: deborphan): Find orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.23 (gutsy), package size 69 kB, installed size 420 kB
[10:30] <tarkus> Ziroday: heh, good question.
[10:31] <Ziroday> tarkus: its a hard task :), nearly impossible
[10:31] <Ziroday> tarkus: also look at localepurge
[10:31] <GeomatiLux> Hello UBUNTU chanel,
[10:31] <tarkus> Ziroday: would you say its easier on linux than win/mac though?
[10:31] <motti> pipsqeek, I don't want to install it without testing it first with a live version because my hardware tend to be problematic.
[10:32] <Ziroday> tarkus: well you can see every _single_ file, so it more possible, easier is hard to judge
[10:32] <tarkus> Ziroday: ah, gotcha
[10:33] <pipsqeek> motti: no one is installing anything. you can either liveboot with the CD, then make a USB boot disk within the live OS, or don't boot, install in a virtual machine. mount your USB key in the VM and follow instructions the same way.
[10:33] <motti> pipsqeek, also, I'm lacking the isolinux.cfg file and that is the source of my problem
[10:33] <J-Unit> how do i use clamav to scan my optical drive?
[10:33] <Ziroday> tarkus: :)
[10:33] <bazhang> motti:  it is so easy to do on ubuntu; plus a great support community
[10:33] <J-Unit> how do i use clamav to scan my optical drive?
[10:33] <motti> I'll test the virtual machine Idea
[10:34] <Ziroday> J-Unit: not familiar with clamav but I presume you could set it to scan the /media directory which would be something like /media/cdrom1
[10:34] <tarkus> my problem right now though, is i just got a vps, instaled ubuntu on it (took less than one minute), and then fussed arround with installing an AMP stack, setting up svn, trac, etc.. since i just followed documentation im not fully aware right now where everything is and whats going on.. it works, but i still feel unsettled about it.
[10:34] <pipsqeek> motti: that's how I did the EeePC install via USB.
[10:34] <bazhang> when I want orange juice I drink orange juice, not orange-based drink
[10:34] <Ziroday> tarkus: ahh thats the same with me, exactly the same feeling I had when installing my VPS
[10:34] <GeomatiLux> I A new personelised UBUNTU DVD,how can I make it's downloadable ?
[10:34] <mr_boo> now i've installed the 169.12 driver
[10:35] <Ziroday> tarkus: however I don't think this convo is suited for #ubuntu, join me in ##ziroday
[10:35] <mr_boo> that is the latest isn't it?
[10:35] <zvacet> bazhang : so you use Debian,right?
[10:35] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: you want to remaster a dvd?
[10:35] <motti> bazhang, support community is great when you actually have a working and Internet surfing machine. as I could not get it to run properly it's pointless
[10:35] <GeomatiLux> yes
[10:35] <codedmind> any libmms developer ?
[10:35] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: do you use the 169.12 driver?
[10:35] <motti> pipsqeek, I'll check the link again
[10:35] <bazhang> zvacet: point well taken
[10:36] <zvacet> bazhang : I know
[10:36] <GeomatiLux> I'm member in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam
[10:36] <bazhang> ;]
[10:37] <GeomatiLux> TunisianTeam member search to remaster  this dvd
[10:37] <mr_boo> this is just amazing
[10:38] <mr_boo> i've installed the driver from nvidias homepage
[10:38] <bazhang> http://uck.sourceforge.net/ this is for cd's GeomatiLux, let me look for the dvd remaster tool
[10:38] <mr_boo> but still i can only run vesa
[10:38] <mr_boo> do you want me to express my feelings right now
[10:38] <mr_boo> omfg
[10:38] <mr_boo> this is just amazing
[10:39] <mr_boo> what am i gonna do?
[10:40] <mr_boo> i really don't want to reinstall ubuntu
[10:40] <arvind_khadri> hey where can i find my present kernel's config file
[10:40] <zvacet> mr_boo : I´m afraid that will not solve your problem
[10:41] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: seems to be the same toolkit for cd or dvd's
[10:41] <tractai83> hiiiiii
[10:41] <mr_boo> zvacet: but this other guy runs the 8800gt on the realtime kernel
[10:41] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hey where can i find my present kernel's config file
[10:41] <mr_boo> zvacet: why does it work for him? grrr
[10:41] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: the 25 kernel?
[10:41] <zvacet> mr_boo : Yes I sow his message
[10:41] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, nope the default one ;)
[10:42] <mr_boo> zvacet: this literally drives me nuts
[10:42] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: /proc/config.hz
[10:42] <ikonia> gz
[10:42] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, ok so can i load that config file into the new kernel??
[10:42] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: no
[10:42] <zvacet> mr_boo :bad karma
[10:42] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: %100 not if it's not an ubuntu packaged kernel
[10:43] <J-Unit> Ziroday, thx ill check it out later since my disc is not on me
[10:43] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, hmm nope its not...i got it from kernel.org
[10:43] <mr_boo> :'''(
[10:43] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, so how do i tweak the new one to make it ubuntu redy
[10:43] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: then no, and you shouldn't use vanilla kernels without an excptional reason
[10:44] <bazhang> motti: if you present your ubuntu problems then perhaps we can work them out
[10:44] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, the new kernel seems to be very good....
[10:45] <GeomatiLux> bazhang I apologize I want to put this DVD downloaded on the internet, so host a cd or DVD
[10:45] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: you got that link? you sorted now?
[10:45] <GeomatiLux> Sorry I'm french speaker :)
[10:45] <skabet> I have a problem with my sound card after kernel update. I get "snd_ctl_open failed for default" error.
[10:46] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: you want to host a dvd.iso? you mean mirror the download link?
[10:46] <skabet> the card is a HD Audio
[10:46] <Freduardo> hi
[10:47] <Freduardo> Anyone know if System76 has moved away from the ubuntuforums?
[10:47] <mr_boo> i'm seriously considering to reinstall the entire os right now
[10:47] <Freduardo> or is it just due to the new layout that their forums are empty?
[10:47] <bazhang> mr_boo: any reason for the realtime kernel
[10:48] <GeomatiLux> Yes bazhang
[10:50]  * N3bunel saluta
[10:50] <zer0x333> hi all :D
[10:50] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: anything stopping you from doing so?
[10:50] <GeomatiLux> can I find a forge how host customised dvd.iso ?
[10:50] <kom6> hai
[10:50] <kom6> daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:50] <zer0x333> only 3 days! :D
[10:51] <zer0x333> 2 days! lol
[10:51] <kom6> haiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:51] <GeomatiLux> No It's simple ?
[10:51] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: these folks have net access?
[10:51] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: didn't work?
[10:52] <mr_boo> now it suddenly works
[10:52] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: hooray!
[10:52] <mr_boo> i had to run envy two times
[10:52] <zvacet> mr_boo :good for you
[10:52] <mr_boo> the first time it didn't complete the operation
[10:52] <mr_boo> the second time it wanted to restart
[10:53] <mr_boo> i've run envy several times before on the realtime kernel w/o success
[10:53] <mr_boo> and just suddenly it worked :)
[10:53] <mr_boo> it doesn't make sense but i'm happy now
[10:53] <mr_boo> many thanks to you ushimitsudoki and zvacet and all you guys
[10:54] <GeomatiLux> Ah yes I understand by ubuntu costumisation Kit you have net acces ?
[10:54] <GeomatiLux> Ok thank you bazhang
[10:55] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: well if they have net access they can easily download the dvd iso; iif you use the uck then you would burn the cds or dvds then distribute them most likely
[10:55] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: apologies, my screen session appears to have hung
[10:55] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, nm :)
[10:55] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: you shouldn't use kernels from kernel.org with out 1.) a very good reason 2.) a solid understanding of what the kernel changes 3.) a solid understanding of the ubuntu kernel and it's changes and how the ubuntu kernel is patched and setup
[10:56]  * zer0x333 test
[10:56] <GeomatiLux> Yes this is a good Idea ,thanks
[10:56] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, i got the tutorial ... and will apply the same config file to it...wont do make install
[10:56] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: why would you apply the smae config file ?
[10:57] <ikonia> samne
[10:57] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, as they would have the present settings ...so i wont need to scratch my head
[10:58] <voland> hi all. could anyone help me to register my nick on this irc?
[10:58] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: the present settings for an ubuntu patched and packaged kernel, that will be specific to the kernel version and patch set applied
[10:58] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: your using a totally diffeent kernel
[10:58] <ikonia> voland: join #freenode
[10:58] <voland> join #freenode
[10:58] <haha> hello
[10:58] <ikonia> voland: "/join #freenode"
[10:58] <voland> "/join #freenode
[10:59] <haha> bb
[10:59] <ere4si>  /j works
[10:59] <ikonia> voland: type everything but the " marks "/join #freenode"
[10:59] <voland> thnx, and what netx?
[10:59] <voland> thnx, and what next?
[10:59] <ikonia> type that command
[10:59] <ere4si> !register
[10:59] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[10:59] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, so if i apply the config file to it wont it become ubuntu patched??
[10:59] <Matias> What does ubuntu DVD include?
[11:00] <voland> !register
[11:00] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: no, it won't become ubuntu patched, and the fact that you do'nt understand the differences between a config file and a patched kernel suggests you shouldn't do this
[11:00] <ikonia> voland: type /join #freenode and ask in there
[11:00] <ikonia> voland: that command will change your channel
[11:00] <voland> ok, thank you
[11:00] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, ok ...
[11:00] <bazhang> Matias: more than the cd
[11:03] <mbent> hi everyone, I actually have a question about the remote desktop settings in gnome. I would like to reconfigure the gnome vnc server to have a geometry of 1280x960. Is this possible?
[11:03] <jorick> i'm looking for a tool to download podcasts, anyone knows a good one? i know amarok etc... have stuff like that built in but i'd prefer some stand-alone tool
[11:04] <Pendeta> Our router/gateway has been assigned a static ip address by our isp.  Does this allow/enable us to serve a web site from a computer on our lan? It seems to me that this should be possible, but the man we hired to set it up for us said we need a second static ip address. Is this so?
[11:05] <mbent> Pendeta, if you use iptables to forward the request to an internal webserver
[11:05] <pistache> I have a problem with Audacious. It is opening new channels for files when using Jack and this uncompatible with the JackAudioserver
[11:05] <mbent> you don't need a second ip address
[11:05] <pistache> Pendeta, no you don't
[11:05] <pistache> Bo you need to set up a NAT
[11:05] <pistache> NAT for Network Adress Translation
[11:11] <Pendeta> mbent and pistache, will we need to assign a static-ip address internally to the web server on our LAN? If so, can just one computer (the server) have a static ip and the rest remain dynamic? Also, are the iptables part of Apache?
[11:11] <Cyrae> Greets, all
[11:11] <LoOoD> how an I set xfs to the be the default filesystem in a preseed file?
[11:11] <pistache> Well, you can set only a static-ip for your webserver
[11:11] <pistache> And for the others computers
[11:12] <pistache> You need to setup your DHCP system for that
[11:12] <pistache> For example, automatic adresses must be from x.x.x.3 to x.x.x.255
[11:13] <pistache> Your webserver must be x.x.x.2
[11:13] <Poul|Laptop> Hello, i have updated my xorg config and cant remember how the touchpad settings was before - but now my scroll button do not work on it - i got a acer travelmate 56xx -anyone who can direct me to a working xorg config for this?
[11:13] <pistache> And the router must be at x.x.x.1
[11:13] <pistache> Pendeta > Is it okay ?
[11:13] <ere4si> Pendeta: http://www.bauani.org/learn-linux-beginner/2006/06/virtual-hosting-behind-cabledsl-router.html
[11:14] <pistache> Hey, does anyone here is using Wine and succeded to run COD4 on Ubuntu ?
[11:14] <pistache> When I do, i have a core dump
[11:14] <ikonia> pistache: thats a tall order with the graphics requirments
[11:15] <pistache> ikonia > for COD4 ?
[11:15] <Martiini> I just compiled 2.6.25 kernel (and I got broadcom wireless working now) but lost my intel sound on HP dv6000
[11:15] <ikonia> pistache: yes
[11:15] <ikonia> Martiini: are you surprised ?
[11:15] <ikonia> Martiini: ubuntu puts a fair ammount of effort into kerneel compatability
[11:15] <Martiini> ikonia, why did I lose my sound and how will I get it back?
[11:16] <ikonia> Martiini: no idea
[11:16] <pistache> Well, are you sure ? In my mind, the problem is not for the graphics, but for the core...
[11:16] <Pendeta> pistache, thanks for the info! Thanks to mbent also, and to ere4si (I'm going to the link you give now!)
[11:16] <ikonia> Martiini: I'm not debugging yoru custom kernel errors
[11:16] <Martiini> do I need to compile kernel again?
[11:16] <corporal_clegg> hello, how can I make the key combination ALT+UP work as PageUP? I think I need xmodmap, but I don't know to to create the combination
[11:16] <ikonia> pistache: I didn't say the problem was with your graphics, but I feel it is a reasonable request to ask of a comptability layer (wine) to process that graphics of COD
[11:17] <Martiini> why would the sound stop working  after kernel recompile ?
[11:17] <ikonia> Martiini: because you've not configured it correctly ? the hardware detection system isn't working with your custom kernel ? could be anything
[11:18] <bazhang> Martiini: which kernel?
[11:18] <ikonia> bazhang: guess
[11:18] <bazhang> 25?
[11:18] <ikonia> shock horror, yes
[11:18] <Martiini> compiled 2.6.25 with 2.6.24-16 .config ... got my broadcom work but lost sound
[11:19] <protocol1> <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[11:19] <bazhang> Martiini: as he said that is not supported here
[11:19] <Martiini> yep
[11:19] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: I hope your paying attention "10:38 < Martiini> compiled 2.6.25 with 2.6.24-16 .config ... got my broadcom work but lost sound"
[11:19] <bazhang> haha
[11:19] <bazhang> poor arvind_khadri
[11:19] <boubbin> how to setup dhcp server ?
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, yeah am listening
[11:19] <DistroJockey> :)
[11:19] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: good good
[11:19] <pistache> I'm not sure I understood, but still... I watched some videos of COD4 running on Ubuntu, and I did all the requirements (wine compilation with the patch), and my system is able to play games like COD4, because I ran it on WindozeXP
[11:19] <pistache> boubin > On what ? Your computer ?
[11:20] <pistache> If it is on your network, the webinterface can manage it easily. Got to <IP_ADDRESS>, or the adresse of your routeur
[11:20] <pistache> router, sorry
[11:20] <Martiini> bazhang,  so why did i lost my sound with new kernel .. Do i need to compile it again with some additional options?
[11:21] <Cyrae> Routeur sounds fancier, like it's real expensive or somesuch
[11:21] <ikonia> Martiini: possibly because you clearly don't pay attention to what's being said to you
[11:21] <pistache> Cyrae > well I'm french, and "routeur" is french...
[11:22] <arvind_khadri> Martini whenever you compile a kernel you should always keep the older kernel for these kinda prob;s
[11:22] <bazhang> Martiini: that kernel stuff scares me
[11:22] <Cyrae> pistache: Is it?  Well, I guess that's why it sounds fancier then :)
[11:22] <pistache> Yes, it's like "rendez-vous" or "a la carte" ^^
[11:23] <arvind_khadri> Martini and as for now no-one can help you as there a lots of places one has to look into and a lot reverse engg will be required to set things going
[11:23] <Ububegin> ;DD bye dudes
[11:23] <[volk]> does anyone know how to search urls in google using wildcards? Ex *goo*e* would match url www.google.com
[11:24] <ikonia> [volk]: thats nothing to do with ubuntu and offtopic
[11:24] <[volk]> yeah.. but there are many people here who might know the answer so I thought i'd give it a try ;)
[11:25] <ikonia> [volk]: that doesn't matter (I'm not smiling)
[11:25] <ikonia> [volk]: please respecct the channel topic there are more appropriate places
[11:25] <[volk]> ikonia: any idea where else I can ask then?
[11:25] <ikonia> [volk]: not hear
[11:25] <[volk]> ok :)
[11:25] <ikonia> here
[11:25] <Breakage> hi I need some help some themes arnt showing up under xfce user interface settings or with gtk-chtheme
[11:27] <neil_> TEST
[11:27] <neil_> pls ignore...
[11:27] <ikonia> neil_: we can see you
[11:27] <neil_> thanks
[11:27] <Dazgard> hi there
[11:28] <Dazgard> im used to rebuild certain application on my system with apt
[11:28] <Dazgard> like that : apt-get -b source package
[11:28] <Dazgard> how can i tell the system not to update them with default repository one ?
[11:28] <Dazgard> when there are the same version ?
[11:29] <ikonia> Dazgard: well your telling it to get tehe source package, so it won't update, once you've done a rebuild apt-cache policy will help you keep the version down
[11:29] <Dazgard> when they
[11:29] <Dazgard> ikonia: nope
[11:29] <Dazgard> apt-egt install -b source xxx = download, compile the package
[11:30] <ikonia> Dazgard: apt-get doesn't compile the package
[11:30] <Lamego> Dazgard, just increase the version before building the package, dont use -b
[11:30] <Dazgard> next to that, i use dpkg -i xxx to install it
[11:30] <Dazgard> ikonia: it DOES
[11:30] <_daniel_> how do you disable synaptics  touchpad  tapping  in Ubuntu???
[11:30] <Lamego> ikonia, it does with -b
[11:30] <ikonia> Dazgard: once you've copiled the package use apt-cache policy to stop apt from updating the "personal" package
[11:30] <Lamego> Dazgard, apt-get source, edita debian/changelog, increase the version number, and then build it with: debuild
[11:31] <ikonia> Lamego: thats new
[11:31] <Lamego> ikonia, are not getting the problem :)
[11:31] <Lamego> you
[11:31] <pengo> i want to do a fresh install when upgrading to hardy... how do i get apt to give me all installed programs, and then to install them again?
[11:31] <ikonia> pengo: dpkg -l
[11:31] <Dazgard> Lamego: but if there is an newer version from the depot what happen ?
[11:32] <ikonia> Dazgard: apt-cache policy
[11:32] <pengo> ikonia: and is there a trick to feeding that back to "apt-get install" ? :)
[11:32] <ikonia> pengo: no
[11:32] <ikonia> pengo: simple script
[11:32] <pengo> ikonia: k thanks
[11:32] <Dazgard> ikonia: ok :)
[11:32] <Dazgard> thanks guys
[11:32] <arvind_khadri> pengo, you can do that but with a shell script
[11:33] <pengo> arvind_khadri: a ready available one or one i write myself?
[11:33] <knoppix> hellow
[11:34] <stippi> is there an Ubuntu tool to change the partition type of a partition?
[11:34] <ikonia> stippi: fdisk
[11:34] <stippi> hello  btw
[11:34] <knoppix> japan
[11:34] <knoppix> ?
[11:34] <stippi> ikonia: thanks, can it change just the type and nothing else?
[11:34] <ikonia> knoppix: do you have a question
[11:34] <ikonia> stippi: sudo fdisk $disk
[11:34] <ikonia> stippi: then it's menu driven
[11:35] <stippi> ikonia: thanks a bunch!
[11:35] <ikonia> welcome
[11:35] <pistache> Does fdisk format the disk ?
[11:35] <cO_suck> ttttttt
[11:35] <ikonia> pistache: no
[11:35] <ikonia> cO_suck: can we help ?
[11:35] <knoppix> help me
[11:35] <ikonia> knoppix: with what ?
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> pengo, search the google,you might have to write one...well one way to go about is copy the /var/cache/apt/ to some file and put in a drive which wont be affected by the upgrade and then feed it back using re-direction
[11:35] <stippi> ikonia: one more question maybe
[11:35] <ikonia> stippi: sure
[11:35] <bazhang> !jp | knoppix
[11:35] <ubotu> knoppix: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[11:36] <protocol1> pistache, have you heard of gparted?
[11:36] <ikonia> bazhang: clearly a good call
[11:36] <stippi> ikonia: long story short, Windows appearantly fixed my installation by setting the type of the "rescue" partition to "empty"
[11:36] <ikonia> stippi: ok
[11:36] <stippi> ikonia: this appearantly shifted all my partition numbers by -1
[11:37] <stippi> ikonia: I managed to get it all working again
[11:37] <pistache> protocol1 > Yes, I'm using it
[11:37] <ikonia> stippi: with you so far
[11:37] <stippi> ikonia: but I am wondering, I have an extended partition
[11:37] <stippi> ikonia: and grub needs the old numbers for booting stuff in logical partitions
[11:37] <stippi> ikonia: is this expected?
[11:38] <ikonia> stippi: expected, debatable, unusual, no. If your using ubuntu 7.10 investigate using uuid numbers for grub
[11:38] <stippi> ikonia: ie (hd0, 5) is still (hd0, 5), while I needed to substract -1 from all primary partitions
[11:39] <BlueMaN> s
[11:39] <stippi> ikonia: for example, if I have only one primary partition and one extended partition, would the first logical partition on the extended partition still be (hd0, 5)?
[11:40] <ikonia> stippi: grubs behaviour on this is debatable and a bit random due to the slightest changes, can alter how it behaves
[11:40] <stippi> ikonia: ok, thanks
[11:40] <pistache>
[11:40] <fujin> well, for what it's worth guys - I'm thoroughly impressed with the Hardy RC on my desktop. The level of polish is incredible
[11:41] <pistache>
[11:41] <fujin> anywaho, seeyas
[11:41] <pistache> I tried Hardy on a virtual machine. It rocks
[11:41] <pistache> I love the graphics
[11:41] <ikonia> !hardy | pistache
[11:41] <ubotu> pistache: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:42] <protocol1> I think Hardy rules
[11:42] <ikonia> protocol1: did you not see the message above?
[11:42] <pistache> ikonia > I know what Hardy is ^^
[11:42] <ikonia> pistache: can you not see the part that says "ubuntu+1" not ubuntu
[11:43] <protocol1> ikonia, yes ... I am just speaking on my behalf :)
[11:43] <ikonia> protocol1: then don't - this isn't a chat channel
[11:43] <ikonia> protocol1: re-read the ubotu factoid
[11:43] <pistache> yes I know but I was not really talking of it...
[11:43] <ikonia> pistache: you where
[11:43] <ikonia> please take it to ubuntu+1 or offtopic
[11:43] <pistache> Okay
[11:44] <ikonia> appriciated
[11:47] <Verichip> may i please ask a question about cronjobs?
[11:49] <ikonia> Verichip: try it
[11:49] <neo1ite> Hi, can anyone advise me on a problem im having going from 6.06LTS to 8.04LTS
[11:50] <B00L> I added the following line to visudo %group1 ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL so that group1 users do not have to supply a password.. but its not working.. any suggestions ?
[11:50] <zvacet> neo1ite what problem
[11:51] <Verichip> ikonia: newly installed system...logged in as another user...i run a cron every min for a php script to perform a mysql query...does not run when cronned...runs fine when run from commandline...log file show it running by root
[11:51] <jtravnick> is there a way to open two files in gedit without tabs? I want to be able to see both files side by side
[11:52] <Verichip> ikonia: also tried starting, and its running... crond that is...
[11:52] <Verichip> ikonia: centos5
[11:55] <DistroJockey> jtravnick: use:   gedit --new-window
[11:55] <neo1ite> has anyone else here had problems upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04?
[11:55] <jpatrick> !hardy
[11:55] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[11:55] <Verichip> ikonia: also the file was empty
[11:56] <Verichip> ikonia: when i first opened it
[11:56] <jtravnick> DistroJockey, thanks
[11:56] <DistroJockey> jtravnick: you're welcome
[11:57] <ikonia> Verichip: we don't support centos in here
[11:57] <ikonia> Verichip: try a centos channel
[11:57] <Verichip> ikonia: id, but you know we're all nix right?
[11:58] <ikonia> Verichip: no
[11:58] <Verichip> thanks ikonia
[11:58] <ikonia> Verichip: this is ubuntu support
[11:59] <KiwiJoker> has anyone had any experience with the latest rc hardy 64bit, any problems so far?
[11:59] <Daky> im back with a real irc client :p
[11:59] <KiwiJoker> *server version
[11:59] <ikonia> !hardy | KiwiJoker
[11:59] <ubotu> KiwiJoker: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[12:00] <woobit> :)
[12:00] <Mr> how do you install kde4 on ubuntu 7.10
[12:01] <newusr> hi is this a support channel  ?
[12:01] <ikonia> newusr: it is
[12:01] <zaputr_> Hello, I have ATI Mobility radeon hd2600 and install driver for it "ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64", it is work, but picture of video and games is blinking and animated screen while loading OS is not viewing
[12:01] <ere4si> !kde4
[12:01] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:01] <newusr> well i got some kinda problems here, fixed almost all of them
[12:01] <newusr> i just got one more to fix but i tried the forums and nothing worked for me
[12:02] <ikonia> newusr: ask the question about the problem you want help with
[12:02] <newusr> well the wireless stopped working
[12:02] <woobit> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop    -will install KDE
[12:02] <woobit> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[12:02] <mrkeishii> okay
[12:03] <mrkeishii> thanks
[12:04] <ikonia> newusr: is that the description of the whole problem ? what wirless card, what ubuntu version, what happend to make it stop working ?
[12:04] <zaputr_> Hello, I have ATI Mobility radeon hd2600 and install driver for it "ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64", it is work, but picture of video and games is blinking and animated screen while loading OS is not viewing
[12:04] <ikonia> zaputr_: why are you using that driver and not the package with the restricted driver manager ?
[12:04] <ikonia> zaputr_: where did you get that package and who told you to use it and why ?
[12:04] <newusr> ok ikonia
[12:06] <woobit> little off ubuntu topic maybe, but does anyone know a general hardware irc channel? Need some help/advice with my home network
[12:06] <zaputr_> restricted driver manager says that my hardware does not need for it
[12:06] <ikonia> zaputr_: are you sure
[12:06] <ikonia> woobit: yes, that is offtopic
[12:06] <ikonia> !offtopic > woobit  (see the message from ubotu)
[12:06] <MrKeishii> How do i install XFCe on Ubuntu 7.10
[12:06] <ikonia> zaputr_: so why did you get an external package ?
[12:07] <newusr> ikonia, 07:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[12:07] <ikonia> MrKeishii: install the xfce-desktop package
[12:07] <MrKeishii> how do u do that?
[12:07] <MrKeishii> can i use the terminal?
[12:07] <ikonia> MrKeishii: sure
[12:07] <MrKeishii> okay
[12:07] <newusr> yes apt-get install MrKeishii
[12:07] <ikonia> MrKeishii: use the apt-get command
[12:07] <MrKeishii> okay
[12:08]  * A[D]minS^Work Back
[12:08] <MrKeishii> where do i find the command at?
[12:08] <zaputr_> i find only this driver for my video card and some sites recommend and told me, how to install it
[12:08] <zvacet> MrKeishii : sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:08] <PETROS073> KAPOIA PO ELLADA
[12:08] <PETROS073> KAPOIA APO ELLADA
[12:08] <MrKeishii> okay
[12:08] <MrKeishii> thanks
[12:09] <PETROS073> KAPOIA APO ELLADA
[12:09] <ikonia> PETROS073: stop please.
[12:10] <DistroJockey> !gr | PETROS073
[12:10] <ubotu> PETROS073: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:10] <newusr> ikonia, any help
[12:10] <thyko> !cd
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <ikonia> newusr: you've told me nothing other than your card version
[12:10] <thyko> !cdwriting
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdwriting - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <thyko> !cd-writing
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd-writing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <newusr> what else you want to know ?
[12:10] <newusr> i asked if this is a help channel :) ikonia that means that am new :)
[12:11] <ikonia> newusr I spelt out exactly what I wanted from you, re-read my post
[12:11] <zvacet> newusr what do you want to ask
[12:12] <zaputr_> if i must to reinstall my os i will do it, but i dont know, how to find and install normal driver for my video card(ATI Mobility radeon hd2600)
[12:12] <newusr> well i have updated my system and am wireless and some other stuff stopped working i got everything back but not the wireless
[12:12] <newusr> ikonia, 07:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[12:13] <SoulChild> hey all, when using firefox some fonts are not drawn correctly, i think it is verdana,.. any ideas which package is need to be installed ?
[12:13] <ikonia> newusr: please re-read what I asked for
[12:13] <ikonia> newusr: what version of ubuntu are you using
[12:13] <zaputr_> i like ubuntu but may be anyone know distributive which works good with ATI video cards?
[12:14] <SoulChild> zaputr_: Ubuntu
[12:14] <newusr> 2.6.24-16-generic
[12:14] <newusr> Ubuntu 8.4 !
[12:14] <Peter11> :)
[12:14] <zero-cool> hello people
[12:14] <daniel_-> how do I disable  the Synaptics Touchpad  tapping  in Ubuntu  7.03
[12:14] <daniel_-> ?
[12:14] <Pici> newusr: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[12:14] <newusr> hello zero-cool
[12:14] <zero-cool> whats up
[12:15] <newusr> thanks Pici
[12:15] <fayetteson> it is possible to compile a kernel that is built around specific hardware therefore making your ubuntu faster or more stable yes ?
[12:15] <sluimers> Whatś the difference between /lib /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib?
[12:15] <zero-cool> i have one problem
[12:15] <ikonia> newusr: it's not advised for a "new user" as you described yourself to use beta products
[12:16] <zero-cool> in services i have microsoft-ds
[12:16] <daniel_-> 5
[12:16] <zaputr_> SoulChild: I haven't find normal driver for it
[12:16] <ianliu_88> Using Ubuntu Gutsy: I'm having problem with changing my screen resolution. I tell Ubuntu to change it but nothing happens.. why is that?
[12:16] <sluimers> What's the difference between /lib /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib?
[12:16] <daniel_-> how do I disable  the Synaptics Touchpad  tapping  in Ubuntu  7.03?
[12:16] <achadwick> sluimers: kernel, distro userland, and locally installed userland. No need to reask.
[12:16] <ikonia> simplechat_: a path
[12:16] <sluimers> okay thanks
[12:17] <yadoorak> is there a package for roadsend?
[12:17] <simplechat_> ikonia, ??
[12:18] <ikonia> simplechat_: it's just a file system path
[12:18] <ikonia> simplechat_: oooh for sweet mercy, sorr
[12:18] <simplechat_> ike_x, what is?
[12:18] <ikonia> smurfslayer: meant that for sluimers
[12:18] <simplechat_> lol
[12:18] <simplechat_> :D
[12:18] <zaputr_> there are no drivers for ATI on http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:18] <simplechat_> tab complete misuse :D
[12:18] <Pici> !ati | zaputr_
[12:18] <ubotu> zaputr_: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:18] <ianliu_88> How can I change my screen resolution from config. files?
[12:18] <ikonia> ianliu_88: why do you not use the graphical tool
[12:19] <ianliu_88> because it is not working.. I change it but nothing happens
[12:19] <ianliu_88> ikonia: because it is not working.. I change it but nothing happens
[12:19] <gabbs> Can you setup postfix + dovecot for virtual domains and users who don't require system accounts?
[12:19] <ikonia> gabbs: yes,
[12:20] <ikonia> gabbs: there is a tutorial on https://help.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <fayetteson> it is possible to compile a kernel that is built around specific hardware therefore making your ubuntu faster or more stable yes ?
[12:20] <gabbs> ikonia, cheers
[12:20] <ikonia> fayetteson: that won't make it faster or more stable
[12:20] <ikonia> fayetteson: it's the same kernel source, use the ubuntu kernel
[12:21] <boubbin> how come, i can get ipo from my dhcp server ubuntu machine, even if the dhcp3-server is stopped ?!
[12:21] <gabbs> ikonia, the dovecot tutorial there talks about maildir and mbox setups, which means they require system users - do you mean another tutorial by any chance?
[12:21] <ikonia> boubbin: sure its not coming from a router
[12:22] <ikonia> gabbs: yeah, wrong turotiral, there is one where you setup 1 system acount *vmail* for example and virtual mail is stored under that
[12:22] <ikonia> gabbs: if you can't find it, shout and I'll dig it out
[12:22] <boubbin> ikonia there is no dhcp server there
[12:22] <gabbs> ok, I'll give google another try, cheers
[12:22] <ikonia> boubbin: you sure dhcpd is dead ?
[12:22] <ikonia> gabbs: it's on https://help.ubuntu.com
[12:22] <boubbin> ikonia :
[12:22] <boubbin> root@kahvikuppi:/home/botit# /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server status
[12:22] <boubbin> Status of DHCP server: dhcpd3 is not running.
[12:23] <ikonia> boubbin: that doesn't mean it's not actually running
[12:23] <boubbin> oh
[12:23] <ikonia> boubbin: ps -ef | grep dhcp
[12:23] <boubbin> dhcp      7301     1  0 11:20 ?        00:00:00 dhclient3
[12:23] <boubbin> dhcpd    13648     1  0 13:02 ?        00:00:00 dhcpd3 -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[12:23] <boubbin> dhcp     16655     1  0 14:07 ?        00:00:00 dhclient3 -e IF_METRIC=100 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth2.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth2.leases eth2
[12:23] <zaputr_> I have done it, but intalation in console says me that i have latest version of this driver
[12:23] <boubbin> killall ?
[12:23] <ikonia> boubbin: there it is
[12:23] <boubbin> ok
[12:23] <ikonia> boubbin: your call how you kill it
[12:23] <boubbin> thanks
[12:23] <boubbin> yeah
[12:23] <FloodBot2> boubbin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <zaputr_> restricted driver manager says that my hardware does not need for it
[12:23] <ikonia> zaputr_: probably because you have installed some other driver package
[12:24] <zero-cool> did anybody corectly whats is microsoft-ds service
[12:24] <ikonia> zero-cool: AD / Samba stuff
[12:24] <ikonia> zero-cool: (domain service)
[12:24] <ikonia> I think
[12:24] <LainIwakura> Do I need to make partitions for /tmp and /usr?
[12:24] <ikonia> LainIwakura: your call
[12:24] <zero-cool> yeah i was read that is filesharing
[12:24] <LainIwakura> ikonia: ok
[12:24] <zaputr_> i need to reinstall my system?
[12:25] <zero-cool> because i am be paranoid
[12:25] <ikonia> zero-cool: what ?
[12:25] <boobaloo> hello world
[12:25] <zero-cool> i was be paranoid when i was see microsoft ds
[12:25] <zaputr> i need to reinstall my system?
[12:26] <zero-cool> because i thinking somebody sharing my hard
[12:26] <boobaloo> rly?
[12:26] <zero-cool> i was thinking somebody share my hard
[12:26] <boobaloo> mmm okey
[12:26] <thinman1189> I already have ubuntu downloaded but I got rid of the torrent file and now I want to seed. anyway to do that without having to redownload?
[12:27] <zero-cool> this is not dangerous
[12:27] <Dr_willis> thinman1189,  you just need the .torrent file again. thats just a few K
[12:27] <achadwick> thinman1189: should just be able to re-download the .torrent and begin seeding with your currently-downloaded file(s)
[12:27] <neo1ite> !hardy
[12:28] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[12:28] <boobaloo> hey did u install 8.04 ?
[12:29] <thinman1189> achadwick I have the torrent, how do I get it to recognize the file I already have?
[12:29] <prodigel> Hi all. Is someone here knowing how ubuntu repositories are updated? I used centerim as messenging client,but from april 2th its yahoo protocol expired. I would like to use it again, installed from ubuntu repositories, not compiled,patched and debugged
[12:30] <achadwick> thinman1189: depends on the client software you use to torrent. I'd experiment a bit, see if it's making new files when you try, and stopping it if it is.
[12:30] <LainIwakura> prodigel: suto apt-get update? try pidgin, which has  almost all of the protocols
[12:30] <LainIwakura> prodigel: sudo apt-get update*
[12:30] <thinman1189> it is I'm moving the current files to the folder that azureus is pointing to
[12:31] <prodigel> LainIwakura: I have my preferences, and centerim beats pidgin there. updating didn't solve the problem
[12:31] <zero-cool> microsoft-ds is not paranoia
[12:31] <zero-cool> ?
[12:31] <zero-cool> this is samba?
[12:31] <LainIwakura> prodigel: can you search it with apt-cache search?
[12:31] <LainIwakura> prodigel: if not, search for the repository and it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:32] <prodigel> LainIwakura: I see. practically I have to find someone who ports it to deb package.
[12:33] <LainIwakura> prodigel: so the current one on the repository won't work for you?
[12:33] <boubbin> im myu dhcpd.conf shout the "option routers" be set to the actual gateway of my isp or the ip addresss of the ip sharing network device ?
[12:33] <prodigel> LainIwakura: it's working, but yahoo protocol expired.
[12:33] <ikonia> boubbin: shout ?
[12:34] <boubbin> shout ?
[12:34] <ikonia> < boubbin> im myu dhcpd.conf shout the "option routers"
[12:34] <ikonia> ooh should
[12:34] <boubbin> oh, 'should'
[12:34] <ikonia> sorry, just clicked
[12:34] <boubbin> :)
[12:34] <ikonia> boubbin: it's set to the device you want the client to use as a router
[12:35] <boubbin> so, its the network card that is sendign the ip to it ?
[12:35] <boubbin> some internal ip anyway
[12:35] <Jackubus> quick question, just finished building my new pc.  am itching to install 8.04 ;)  do i have to wait another 2 days or are there torrents around ?
[12:35] <ikonia> boubbin: no - it's the device you want the clients to use as a router
[12:35] <ikonia> Jackubus: just wait, hardy discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[12:35] <boubbin> oh, ok
[12:36] <kelvin911> hi
[12:36] <kelvin911> anyone use wine here?
[12:36] <ikonia> kelvin911: everyone in #winehq does
[12:36] <fayetteson> no it has a bad aftertaste
[12:36] <ikonia> kelvin911: for specialist questions
[12:36] <kelvin911> but no one there atm
[12:37] <kelvin911> after i update to 0.9.58 i receive error like this GLW_StartOpenGL() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[12:37] <ikonia> kelvin911: ok, so wait around for them to respond
[12:37] <fx|RabBitt> does anybode have an idea how much battery an external vga port consumes when switched on on a laptop?
[12:37] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: thats nothing to do with ubuntu and hardware and video card specific
[12:38] <boubbin> ikonia the client now gets the ip from the range i have set, and i can access my external static ip, it show the apache directory listing fine, but when in trying to access for example google.com it just loads forever, what im missing ?
[12:38] <Dr_willis> fx|RabBitt,  i would think very little. Since the monitor is powered elseware..
[12:38] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: ok in that case i put the question otherwise: is it a problem if fgrlx enables the vga port by fdefault by adding an according line to xorg.conf?
[12:38] <ikonia> boubbin: a route to the internet ? a gateway that can do port forwarding/masqurading/nat
[12:38] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: no, that shouldn't be a problem
[12:39] <fx|RabBitt> Dr_willis: that is what i supposed..
[12:39] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: it may effect your battery life though
[12:39] <Dr_willis> fx|RabBitt,  if you are hooked up to a powered monitor.. then.. err.. You are very close to a outlet :)  why use battery
[12:39] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: well thats the poing, cos fgrlx comes with an atieventsd that can hhandle switching it on and off but that thing is bogus
[12:40] <Dr_willis> it the port isent even being used. I dont see how it can be causing any power drain.
[12:40] <boubbin> ikonia well, i dont really know where i have to set that..
[12:40] <Gaz`> hey folks, i had to turn off my laptop because ubuntu hung (what ya meant to when that happens?) now when it boots up the menus and icons vanish just after i log in and no keyboard actions seem to do anythign
[12:40] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: speaking in terms of changes resolution but doesnt change it back and permanentlyturns on the vga external port...
[12:40] <leninia> hi
[12:41] <fx|RabBitt> Dr_willis: well that wqas my ducated gueass also but i wanted to know if anyone knows for sure...
[12:41] <Gaz`> anyone got any fixes for this?
[12:41] <fx|RabBitt> gosh sry for syntax, kind of tired already today...
[12:41] <zero-cool> what will be when i stopping microsoft-ds
[12:42] <Gaz`> someone must have seen this problem
[12:42] <fx|RabBitt> zero-cool: NOTHING MICROSOFT != linux
[12:42] <Gaz`> seems common enough
[12:42] <zero-cool> how can i stop that service
[12:42] <ikonia> zero-cool: it's samba I've told you multiple times now
[12:43] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: how does seem common to you?
[12:43] <ikonia> zero-cool: stop samba, (smbd and nmbd) sdaemons
[12:43] <zero-cool> i am in paraoia
[12:43] <ikonia> zero-cool: why ????
[12:43] <Gaz`> fx|RabBitt: happened to me on another laptop and i had to reinstall!
[12:43] <ikonia> zero-cool: I've told you 3 times it's samba using the microsoft-ds service
[12:43] <fx|RabBitt> zero-cool: killall servicename
[12:43] <zero-cool> aha
[12:43] <boulboul> j'arrive pas a installer ubuntu sur mon ordi j'arrive a l'étape 3 pour la rrepartitiont je bloc
[12:44] <fx|RabBitt> zero-cool: and to remove it permanently either uninstall it or remove the links from /etc/rc*
[12:44] <Pici> !fr | boulboul
[12:44] <ubotu> boulboul: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:45] <Gaz`> alot of good this help channel is :P
[12:45] <fx|RabBitt> does anyone know where i can configure events for ati's eventsd?
[12:45] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: go away pls
[12:45] <ikonia> Gaz`: what is the issue
[12:45] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: be friendly
[12:45] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: ishe friendly?
[12:45] <Pici> !attitude | Gaz`
[12:45] <ubotu> Gaz`: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:46] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: that doesn't matter, be friendly to people
[12:46] <zero-cool> i was thinking somebody share my hard
[12:46] <Gaz`> ikonia: when i boot ubuntu just after login the menu vanishes, so im left with a blank screen, i cant do anything
[12:46] <zero-cool> i was reading that is samba and provides ipv 6 protocol
[12:46] <dcorbin_work> I'm trying to build a package that requires ssl support.  The "configure" command cannot find openSSL.  I can find no trace of include files for it, and there is no openssl-dev package.  Ideas?
[12:46] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: i am freindly to people thaat dont insult me and above that i shall not be instructed on whom to be freindly to;)
[12:46] <fayetteson> has anyone here ever read a man page and said what the heck does that mean ?
[12:47] <Pici> fx|RabBitt: Drop it.
[12:47] <Pici> !coc > fx|RabBitt (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:47] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: the ubuntu channels says friendly and respectful to all people, telling someone to go away is not friendly or respectful
[12:47] <ikonia> Pici: too quick
[12:47] <ikonia> Gaz`: when you say login, you mean the gdm login ?
[12:47] <zaputr> the latest version jf instalation program of restricted drivers haven't find my video card
[12:47] <Gaz`> ikonia: after i enter my username and passw in the normal textfields
[12:47] <fx|RabBitt> gosh first of all how come that there always ppl involvin who have nothing to do with it
[12:48] <fx|RabBitt> second if i am participating here am i part of the community then too or not?
[12:48] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: your in a pupblic channel
[12:48] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: i know and i dont wish o be insulted here
[12:48] <fx|RabBitt> neither by Gaz` nor by you ma;)
[12:49] <zaputr> the latest version of manager of restricted drivers haven't find my video card
[12:49] <Mr> how do you install Slackware on Ubuntu without removing ubuntu?
[12:49] <Gaz`> ikonia, i can get into recovery mode if that helps
[12:49] <Pici> Mr: You can't install Slackware on Ubuntu, you'd need to repartition the drive.
[12:49] <MrKeishii> oh
[12:49] <ikonia> Gaz`: one moment
[12:49] <MrKeishii> how about FreeBSD?
[12:50] <MrKeishii> how about FreeBSD?
[12:50] <milia> Mr_Sonoma, whatabout it :P
[12:50] <Pici> MrKeishii: Same thing. Unless of course you're talking about doing some sort of virtualization.
[12:50] <_MaxPower_> MrKeishii: Same deal ..
[12:50] <MrKeishii> oh
[12:50] <MrKeishii> can I run Gentoo on a 32bit laptop?
[12:51] <Pici> MrKeishii: You'd have to ask them (but probably yes), this channel is only for Ubuntu support
[12:51] <Maikiro> Hey all
[12:51] <MrKeishii> i know
[12:51] <Maikiro> I need a bit of help with Ubuntu and sound...
[12:52] <Audio_> Hello, how to avoid the 6 minutes boot??
[12:52] <_MaxPower_> MrKeishii: Read this how-to and it will answer all of your questions regarding multiple operating systems
[12:52] <_MaxPower_> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/MultiOS-HOWTO.html
[12:52] <MrKeishii> okay
[12:53] <Gaz`> hmm now ubuntu has froze
[12:53] <Gaz`> this is why i need to power off
[12:53] <Gaz`> not sure why its happening
[12:53] <Maikiro> I can get sound via Teamspeak.... but any other sounds do not work? anyone help please
[12:54] <babo> if I'm switching webhosts, i should contact my old host and ask for an EPS number for my .com domain. Then i should switch to the old host right ?
[12:54] <_MaxPower_> Gaz: try cnrl alt  F1 it will take you to a shell where you can restart the xserver
[12:54] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: this kin of smells like a wrong diver problem to me...
[12:55] <Gaz`> yeh it appears to be during fades
[12:55] <Gaz`> or opacity
[12:55] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: you are talking about a completely fresh install or how was that?
[12:55] <Gaz`> my 3d screensavers flicker too
[12:55] <Seraph101> Hello, I get "update-notifier: /opt/mono-1.9/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[12:55] <Seraph101> " when i try to start update-notifier :S
[12:55] <Gaz`> it as a fresh install yes
[12:56] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz and right after desktop initalizes everythig freezes?
[12:56] <Gaz`> only because i turned it off when it hung
[12:56] <Gaz`> i couldnt find ctrl alt del
[12:56] <bullgard4> Why renders GNOME terminal fonts differently in its normal pane from in its preview?
[12:56] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: well there aint any...
[12:57] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz can you still switch to another consloe by ctrl alt f22222 for xample?
[12:57] <Pici> bullgard4: I've never had that problem.
[12:57] <ikonia> Gaz`: apologies I had a work commitment
[12:57] <Seraph101> can anyone help me?
[12:57] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: oops meant ctrl + alt + f2 of course
[12:58] <Gaz`> trying no
[12:58] <Gaz`> w
[12:58] <kelvin911> hello after i update wine to 0.9.58 i receive error GLW_StartOpenGL() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[12:58] <Gaz`> np ikonia
[12:59] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: just a sec im trying out sth
[12:59] <Schypher_> hi, how can I find out what module is load for my wireless PCMCIA card?
[12:59] <fx|RabBitt> Schypher_: do you know the name of the pcmcia card?
[12:59] <bullgard4> Pici: Most annoying here (in Hardy). A regression. Apparently my GNOME terminal displays all 109 fonts in size 8 or lower blurred.
[13:00] <esperegu> Anyone knows what might control the shift to stay on after pressing it? Is that configurable somewhere?
[13:00] <Schypher_> yes
[13:00] <jords> Schypher_L: sudo lsmod will list the modules currently loaded on your system
[13:00] <Gaz`> ctrl alt + f2 does nothing once the menus vanish, if i catch them before they do it flips to a black dos screen
[13:00] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: reboot please ut do not log in!
[13:00] <Schypher_> jords, lsmod will list the available mod or loaded mods?
[13:00] <Gaz`> fx|RabBitt: what ?
[13:01] <jords> Schypher_: Loaded
[13:01] <Pici> bullgard4: Perhaps it has something to do with font antialiasing or hinting.
[13:01] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: which is basically what it should do and btw dos -  no such thing;)
[13:01] <Schypher_> fx|RabBitt, it is a dlink g650, which uses a atheros, I assume its a ath_pci
[13:01] <Gaz`> well its a dos style window
[13:01] <Gaz`> cli