[04:42] <babo> Hi guys, I have a postfix config that is running amok, it doesn't seem to be able to open anything. I'm not sure where I should start. Can one of the experts have a look at it for me pls ... :-)  ?    http://pastebin.com/708743  Thanks
[04:43] <goga> hi everyone....i 've followed the instuctions in the ubuntu forum of how to install xgl an compiz under breezy but the xserver didn't load...
[04:43] <Drake_> anyone know what would make it imposible to mount/umount/eject cdrom from nautilus but able to do it form the command line?
[04:43] <g0dchild> CaBlGuY, really. is there no other solution- to split the tar archives using another utility?
[04:43] <goga> can anyone knows what that means?
[04:43] <bbrazil> puff: dont use -s with sort -n
[04:43] <bbrazil> puff: *-h
[04:43] <goga> i am a newbie as you can see
[04:44] <g0dchild> I am having trouble using k3b to burn that many files - i know how to. k3b keeps crashing :S
[04:44] <CaBlGuY> g0dchild,  Ummm im sure there is but, I haven't really played around with spliting and burning files in Ubuntu as much of some of the other guys have...
[04:44] <jdavila> Hi, I'm configuren a mail server with postfix, cyrus and sasl on breezy and I got a problem with sieve
[04:44] <spikeb> ooh
[04:44] <spikeb> bad k3b
[04:44] <|Sivik|> goga: what does your xorg.conf look like?  paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:44] <amicrawler> where do i find the restricted apps  the cool fun 3d games and apps ?
[04:44] <goga> ok wait a little bit
[04:45] <g0dchild> yeah, CaBlGuY - appreciate your help....so the other guys, what do you have on splitting tar files?
[04:45] <LathropWells> Drake "hdparm --help" knows the command i have at the moment forgotten (old aged cranky geek)
[04:45] <wre> THIS IS SO FUN
[04:45] <spikeb> sarcastic, crabby screaming is unecessary.
[04:45] <jdavila> the error is "unable to connect to server at /usr/bin/sieveshell line 174, <STDIN> line 1"
[04:45] <jdavila> wth does it means?
[04:46] <Milk_> wre, what in particular?
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> g0dchild,  honestly, it's been so long since I've missed with those in Linux, I can't remember..  :p
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> someone here will k now though. ;o)
[04:46] <pyrotic> Krontab guess I'll have you help me another time.. Good-Night..
[04:46] <amicrawler> cableguy   i'm satlitte guy
[04:47] <amicrawler> satellite guy
[04:47] <amicrawler> cable is satellit did you know that ?
[04:47] <amicrawler> cable is satellite did you know that ?
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> amicrawler,  Ummmm  yea thanks for the update...   :o/
[04:47] <amicrawler> they have  15 to 20' dishes
[04:47] <amicrawler>  and farm of them
[04:47] <pip`> how do i lookup my cpu clock speed in kubuntu ??
[04:48] <amicrawler> cable do you work for cox,comcast,charter ?
[04:48] <goga> sivik: i pasted the file....
[04:48] <Drake_> LathropWells: shouldn't that be affected in the command line also? I can mount/umount/eject fromt the command line but not able to do it from nautilus
[04:48] <jdavila> is there a command line irc client on breezy?
[04:49] <spikeb> there are a couple
[04:49] <amicrawler> the sacromento system is a 650mhz system
[04:49] <spikeb> bitchx, irssi, ircii, epic
[04:49] <pip`> and how do i look up my device manager in kubuntu ??
[04:49] <amicrawler>  the barow from paul to pay pete
[04:49] <LathropWells> Drake I wish i had more to offer. - sry
[04:50] <amicrawler> meaning  they  put there hsi on ch 79 and give every body  crapy service
[04:50] <pip`> does kubuntu have a registry ??
[04:50] <amicrawler> is wish they were a 1500mhz system
[04:50] <SuperK> Can kcontrol be reinstalled?
[04:50] <SuperK> when I start it I get this
[04:51] <CaBlGuY> amicrawler,  do u always ask so many damb questions??  :p
[04:51] <SuperK> Will not save configuration.
[04:51] <amicrawler> cableguy fuge man
[04:51] <SuperK> Will not save configuration.
[04:51] <SuperK> Configuration file not writeable
[04:52] <amicrawler> why are cableguys such mean people
[04:52] <amicrawler> i never understood that
[04:52] <Chetwin> Anyone having any luck in the wireless department ???
[04:52] <amicrawler> i was a cable guy my self  at one time my self
[04:52] <sambagirl> now this is truely far out. i have seen the video on this and it's amazing http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/
[04:52] <pip`> ami, were u nice ?
[04:52] <SuperK> and I get no list of modukes
[04:52] <AnsiC> synatptic do not find win32codecs for mplayer
[04:52] <SuperK> modules
[04:53] <amicrawler> yep
[04:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell AnsiC about w32codecsx
[04:53] <amicrawler> all way went the exrta mile for the  guys and custumers
[04:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell AnsiC about w32codecs
[04:53] <AnsiC> i has enabled the copright restriction
[04:53] <pip`> well parents usually cause most of their kids lousy personalities
[04:53] <AnsiC> and multivers repository
[04:53] <puff> greyhill you mean like this guy is talking about? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/312
[04:54] <greyhill> puff yep, that's what I use (not much roaming involved, though)
[04:54] <puff> greyhill: I know /etc/network/interfaces mostly as a place to define your network config, don't really think of it as controlling wireless, but I guess it makes sense.
[04:54] <puff> greyhill: I just figured there had to be some simple way of designating an access point to connect to.
[04:55] <beartrapproposal> i don't suppose i could obtain some help for an ubuntu newbie w/ zilch linux experience?
[04:55] <greyhill> puff I thought network-admin did a decent job
[04:56] <pip`> and how do i see my background processes in kubuntu ???
[04:56] <amicrawler> pip in the shelll  top
[04:56] <amicrawler> or  top -u you user name
[04:57] <LathropWells> or "sudo ps -e" for a simple listing
[04:58] <teimu> when i try to configure mplayer plugin for mozilla, i get an error, WARNING: firefox-plugin not found
[04:58] <pip`> ahh good ok thx
[05:00] <eimajenthat> anyone here used Ubuntu for AMD64?
[05:01] <beartrapproposal> might anyone have a suggestion as to why i cannot open synaptic in breezy badger?
[05:01] <teimu> beartrapproposal, are you currently using apt-get?
[05:01] <teimu> whats the error
[05:02] <teimu> you might be updating too, cant say without the error message
[05:02] <beartrapproposal> would that be in the terminal screen (again, i know zilch linux)
[05:02] <LathropWells> teimu - "mozcontrol"?
[05:03] <beartrapproposal> it said i had updates but nothing updates
[05:03] <BHSPitMonkey> hi
[05:03] <teimu> in the terminal, type "sudo -s -H', then type 'synaptic'...what does it say?
[05:04] <BHSPitMonkey> installed ubuntu, chose NOT to install a bootloader (I already have grub how I like it) and I added ubuntu to grub manually...
[05:04] <beartrapproposal> sudo: no passwd  entry for -H!
[05:04] <BHSPitMonkey> when I tried booting for the first time, got a kernel panic, said something to the effect of using the correct kernel arguments...
[05:04] <goga> is there anywhere an example of how xorg.conf file should look like for xgl and compiz installation with nvidia card
[05:04] <goga> ?
[05:04] <BHSPitMonkey> and about VFS... is this ringing a bell for anyone, or do I need to go and write it down again
[05:05] <teimu> beartrapproposal, is that the error?
[05:05] <beartrapproposal> yar
[05:05] <teimu> try sudo su
[05:05] <fiendskull9> hey guys, i installed konqueror, and it became my default file manager, how do i switch back to nautilus?
[05:05] <spikeb> sudo su?
[05:05] <teimu> it works =)
[05:05] <beartrapproposal> nothing, just the same prompt
[05:05] <spikeb> why not just use sudo with the shell option?
[05:05] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, when it asks for a pw, you're using the password you put in during the install of Ubuntu?
[05:06] <jariep1__> hi all
[05:06] <Nameeater> fn'BHSPitMonkey, http://name.pastebin.com/708776
[05:06] <teimu> beartrapproposal, also note, that the letters you type will NOT move the cursor when you're entering the password
[05:06] <slackern> /bin/bash && /bin/bash is very annoying :)
[05:06] <goga> is there anywhere an example of how xorg.conf file should look like for xgl and compiz installation with nvidia card under Breezy??
[05:06] <beartrapproposal> it isn't asking for a password
[05:07] <beartrapproposal> at least when i type "sudo su"
[05:07] <teimu> whats the prompt your at? does it say 'root' anywhere?
[05:07] <beartrapproposal> no root
[05:08] <teimu> Dr_Willis, i dont understand it either; my friend told me about it, and its just a convienent way to get root
[05:08] <beartrapproposal> "my username"@ubuntu:~$
[05:08] <teimu> hmm
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> teimu,  gee.. sudo -s seems nicer
[05:09] <teimu> same amount of characters =)
[05:09] <_jason> sudo -i is even better
[05:09] <teimu> whats -i mean?
[05:09] <BHSPitMonkey> Nameeater: are savedefault and boot part of the entry? I've never seen those before
[05:10] <_jason> teimu: gives you root, but resets all your environment variables so stuff in your $HOME doesn't end up owned by root
[05:10] <Madpilot> teimu, it gets you a shell, safer than sudo su
[05:10] <teimu> _jason, are you from CA?
[05:11] <_jason> teimu: nope
[05:11] <Nameeater> fn'BHSPitMonkey, I think savedefault is to set that one as the option grub boots by default (so not necessary) but all my entries have boot at the end
[05:12] <BHSPitMonkey> oh
[05:12] <teimu> beartrapproposal, try logging in again and see if you can open synaptic
[05:12] <gayanasa> how learn linux ubuntu
[05:12] <d3vice> does ubuntu run on intel core solo ?
[05:12] <gayanasa>  yes
[05:13] <_jason> gayanasa: help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com are good places to start
[05:13] <theblue> Hi all, I'm trying to add an entry into my $PATH, how would I go about doing this?
[05:13] <mithro> hi! how does one stop my computer from suspending everytime the AC plug is pulled out?
[05:13] <gayanasa> ubuntu is good os
[05:14] <teimu> hmm...wheres firefox usually stored?
[05:14] <danl> I used the macromedia installer for the newest version of flash, installed to /usr/lib/firefox and the plugin went to the correct directory and such, but it still doesn't work, any ideas why?
[05:14] <QMario> Would it be a wise idea to upgrade a 3-year 512MB SDRAM machine or just to make a new build?
[05:14] <QMario> It just seems as if my machine is dying daily.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> Upgrading somthing that old - is not worth the effort.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> unless you can find some cheap (free) parts
[05:15] <_jason> teimu: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/ , your personal stuff is in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[05:15] <Madpilot> QMario, sdram is actually hard to get ahold of, it seems - and more expensive than modern (DDR, DDR2, etc) RAM
[05:16] <Drake`> anyone know of a good place to start looking to trouble shoot what would cause a ssh session to close and unable to reconnect until server is rebooted?
[05:16] <bbrazil> Drake`: log files
[05:16] <jmoncayo> does ubuntu comes with a vnc client??
[05:17] <mDot> hey guys, i need help ompiling http://www.zoto.com/general/getting_started//linux into a .deb package
[05:17] <mDot> anyone have some time?
[05:17] <spikeb> is there any way to get kde applications to use the current gtk theme?
[05:17] <theblue> Hi all, I'm trying to add an entry into my $PATH, how would I go about doing this?
[05:17] <danl> teimu, it seems /usr/lib/firefox from my problem ;-)
[05:17] <spikeb> mDot: what's up
[05:17] <mDot> spikeb, it appears the source is a bunch of python scripts, i have no idea how to complie
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> jmoncayo,  apt-cache search vnc (and pick one and install it)  Kde also has theor remote desktop tool that does vnc
[05:18] <mDot> i want to use checkinstall to create a .deb
[05:18] <QMario> Okay, thank you, guys!!! :)
[05:18] <jmoncayo> theblue, export $PATH='';
[05:18] <DanglyBits> anyone know why i might be getting a kernel modules load error when trying to load dapper beta for amd64?
[05:18] <spikeb> mDot: source for?
[05:18] <earthen> could someone give me some help getting a bluetooth mouse to work in dapper
[05:18] <mDot> http://www.zoto.com/general/getting_started//linux
[05:18] <jmoncayo> Dr_Willis, yea but before doing that apt search i was wondering if ubuntu comes already with one installed
[05:19] <danl> DanglyBits, it may be better to ask in the dapper chat #ubuntu+1
[05:19] <beartrapproposal> no such luck teimu
[05:20] <Drake`> bbrazil: what type of log file would help see what caused an ssh session to fail?
[05:20] <cjones> how do you run wine
[05:20] <_antix> wine
[05:20] <bbrazil> Drake`: whichever one has the ssh logs in it (auth.log or daemon.log)
[05:20] <spikeb> wine <windows program name>
[05:20] <mDot> spikeb they are very little help, ill try again
[05:21] <spikeb> mDot: can you pastebin the file with the installation instructions?
[05:21] <mDot> sure
[05:21] <beartrapproposal> could someone offer advice as to why synaptic package manager is not opening
[05:21] <cjones> but dont you have to install the program into ubuntu first or just mount the ntfs partition
[05:21] <spikeb> mDot: i might be able to translate it into human readable language for you hehe
[05:21] <PrimoTurbo> Is there a good 3d benchmark utility something that really tests opengl for example not fglrxgrears or glxgears or whatever
[05:21] <beartrapproposal> i just installed ubuntu and that's one of several problems i'm having
[05:22] <PrimoTurbo> wow my xchat just closed for no reason....
[05:22] <spikeb> heh
[05:22] <PrimoTurbo> anyone answer my question
[05:22] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, did you do a default install, and are you logged in as the user you created during install?
[05:22] <Kr0ntab> mDot,
[05:22] <beartrapproposal> yes
[05:22] <Kr0ntab> the README in the file says to compile with qmake
[05:22] <mDot> spikeb http://pastebin.com/708794
[05:22] <luther> hi.  i ran ./configure for some source and it said i need the "library xml2".  is this listed as libxml2-dev in package manager?
[05:23] <spikeb> luther: yes
[05:23] <mDot> Kr0ntab sup?
[05:23] <spikeb> mDot: ok, so what are your troubles with it
[05:23] <mDot> spikeb firing up terminal to see
[05:23] <spikeb> k
[05:24] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, and System->Admin->Synaptic isn't working when you put your user pw in?
[05:24] <beartrapproposal> i don't get anything to appear
[05:24] <agraupe> does linux/ubuntu support 802.11g networking, or only 802.11b?
[05:24] <beartrapproposal> my headphones make some sort of bump, which makes me think i had an error
[05:24] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, odd... have you tried sudo in the terminal?
[05:24] <ESPOiG> has anyone built a gaim2.0 .deb file cause everytime i try it fails with something different :D
[05:25] <beartrapproposal> when i System->Admin->Synaptic nothing appears
[05:25] <spikeb> not me ESPOiG
[05:25] <beartrapproposal> i'm not positive what to put in the terminal
[05:25] <ESPOiG> spikeb: do you have it
[05:25] <beartrapproposal> i've done sudo apt-get update
[05:25] <mDot> spikeb qmake - command not found
[05:25] <beartrapproposal> and nothing happens
[05:25] <spikeb> ESPOiG: no - i'm sticking with 1.5 until 2 goes stable
[05:25] <beartrapproposal> i just get the same command prompt
[05:25] <spikeb> mDot: install qmake
[05:25] <Aeh> Boa noite tenho um Hd instalado o ubunto e coloquei esse hd como slave (hdb2) em outro micro com ubuntu tambem, quero acessar a pasta /var/www desse hd (hdb2) e no estou conseguindo alguem pode me ajudar? a
[05:25] <ESPOiG> spikeb: ah
[05:26] <LathropWells> agraupe - It supports both :)
[05:26] <mDot> spikeb Couldn't find package
[05:26] <mDot> hang on
[05:26] <jmoncayo> how can i download something from a box to where i am sshed??
[05:26] <spikeb> mDot: k
[05:26] <ESPOiG> spikeb: im still waiting for 6.06 :P im just updating programs on 5.10 to keep me occuppied
[05:26] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, yeah, sudo apt-get update should do more than that...
[05:26] <spikeb> ESPOiG: lol i'm actually running dapper at the moment
[05:26] <beartrapproposal> unless there's some mystery box that i'm not seeing
[05:27] <ESPOiG> spikeb: yeh but it aint the release, thats what im exactly waiting for :D
[05:27] <Madpilot> beartrapproposal, not w/ sudo apt-get update, there isn't..
[05:27] <beartrapproposal> but i only have one workspace, so i don't think that's it
[05:27] <ESPOiG> spikeb: the Xubuntu one
[05:27] <jmoncayo> how can i copy something down to my computer from a box where i am sshed??
[05:27] <spikeb> ESPOiG: oooh
[05:27] <spikeb> ESPOiG: good idea, xubuntu is quite unstable yet
[05:27] <luther> gripe:  why does configure tell me the libs i need ONE AT A TIME
[05:27] <ESPOiG> spikeb: ff is so slow on dapper
[05:28] <slackern> ESPOiG: Mine is running fine now after a an update or 2 ago to it.
[05:28] <spikeb> ESPOiG: mine runs good
[05:28] <varsendagger> hey what is the difference between xmms and xmms2   and where can i get a .deb of ardour?
[05:28] <FluffyArmada> Anyone in here using ppc64 ubuntu? If so, has the alsa/whatever bug been fixed?  CUPS tells lies.
[05:30] <waldo> can I get confirmation that firestarter is the best easy-to-use-for-beginners firewall for ubuntu?
[05:30] <LathropWells> PrimoTurbo, "sudo sh /your/file.bin"
[05:30] <spikeb> waldo: yes
[05:30] <mshade> !glxgears
[05:30] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[05:30] <PrimoTurbo> thanks
[05:30] <tony14764> How do I fix clipping/jumping video when playing a DVD?
[05:30] <waldo> spikeb: thanks
[05:31] <delmar> tony14764, sure its not the DVD that has issues.. scratch or smudge... ?
[05:31] <FluffyArmada> tony14764: look up enabling dma mode for your dvd drive. I think that's what it's called. I think it's in the ubuntu faq. Sorry, i'd check but nothing really works right now on my system.
[05:31] <PrimoTurbo> 4000 fps good for glxgears, having it not covered by anything or anything like that...
[05:31] <wiBo> how to be a developper here for ubuntu?
[05:31] <PrimoTurbo> ?
[05:31] <mshade> PrimoTurbo, yeah
[05:31] <spikeb> 28410 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5681.923 FPS
[05:31] <spikeb> hah
[05:31] <luther> can't find this in package manager configure: error: You need libIMG/SDL_image to compile Armagetron.
[05:31] <LathropWells> In UT99 the mouse cursor is trapped in a small square of screen real estate. - has anyone seen this?
[05:31] <luther> or in google
[05:31] <PrimoTurbo> did u cover it with an application?
[05:32] <PrimoTurbo> cause I can get 7000 if I leave it in the back
[05:32] <tony14764> DVD is fine (plays perfect in the DVD or Windows machine) DMA=0
[05:32] <LathropWells> UT2k4 is fine
[05:32] <spikeb> dma needs to be enabled
[05:32] <delmar> tony14764, yep. DMS would be a good idea
[05:32] <delmar> DMA*
[05:32] <delmar> come to think of it.. i havent got to that on my box...
[05:32] <mshade> uncovered: 6088fps.. covered: 11069
[05:32] <tony14764> DMA=1   ?>
[05:32] <FluffyArmada> tony14764, I'm not sure how, but I think you can enable dma mode, and it'll play properly
[05:32] <FluffyArmada> that used to happen to me
[05:32] <delmar> where do u set the DMA?
[05:33] <spikeb> !dma
[05:33] <mshade> PrimoTurbo, what card do you have?
[05:33] <tony14764> hdparm
[05:33] <delmar> hdparm of course
[05:33] <spikeb> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:33] <LathropWells> sudo hdparm -d1 /path/to/your/drive
[05:33] <delmar> ok. off shopping. remember.. CUPS is a Lier.. :P
[05:33] <spikeb> haha
[05:34] <mDot> spikeb no joy
[05:35] <spikeb> mDot: you need qt3-dev-tools installed for qmake
[05:35] <mDot> spikeb installing now
[05:35] <tony14764> DMA=1 ....Still        choppy.
[05:35] <spikeb> tony14764: bah
[05:35] <fourat> i have a fresh install on my latop (ubuntu) it detcts my wifi card as ath0, iwconfig shows that the interface is not connected to any ESSID, 'iwlist ath0 scanning' will say: ath0 Interface doesnt support scanning: Network is down
[05:35] <fourat> what should i do ?
[05:36] <BHSPitLappy> thanks, Nameeater
[05:36] <BHSPitLappy> worked
[05:36] <Dangly> anyone help with a kernel modules error in dapper beta for amd64?
[05:36] <soop> fourrat: broadcom card?
[05:36] <d3vice> fourat, tried manually setting essid info?
[05:36] <tony14764> THekicker is it woks perfect with OS 9.2 or OS X
[05:36] <fourat> d3vice, where ? i have no entries in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:36] <d3vice> oh
[05:37] <fourat> it's the first time i use wifi on linux
[05:37] <LathropWells> tony14764, - there is a command to enable 32 bit wwrite access it likely has been done auto-magically for you. did "hdparm" at the command line give you any info?
[05:37] <JonBoon> is there any way to know what kind of ram you have? the sticks in this old emachine are blank
[05:37] <fourat> !wifi
[05:37] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:38] <cge> In xchat, is there some way to change my hostmask so it doesn't include my username?
[05:38] <mDot> spikeb - appears to work
[05:38] <mDot> thanks
[05:38] <tony14764> LathropWells, alot of stuff
[05:39] <mDot> readme says i need xmlrpc-c-1.2, but i can't find it
[05:39] <spikeb> mDot: let me check
[05:39] <LathropWells> lol - yes it is more than a little cryptic.
[05:39] <spikeb> hmm
[05:39] <specialbuddy> how do I uninstall something
[05:39] <spikeb> mDot: have you tried installing libxmlrpc-c3-dev
[05:40] <jmoncayo> can somebody tell me how to copy files with scp and if i can use it if i am sshed with -X flag?
[05:40] <mDot> spikeb doing it now
[05:40] <elkbuntu> what package is needed for zlib?
[05:40] <mshade> jmoncayo, scp is independant of any other sessions
[05:40] <waldo> whats the difference between apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean and which do I want to use if I'm low on hd space?
[05:40] <mshade> you don't have to be ssh'd to use it
[05:40] <mshade> ssh remotehost:/path/to/foo /path/to/localfile
[05:40] <mshade> err scp
[05:40] <mshade> instead of ssh
[05:40] <LathropWells> tony14764, this link can explain it better than i can http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/man/man8/hdparm.8.html
[05:41] <tony14764> LathropWells, HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Permission denied
[05:41] <tony14764>  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[05:42] <LathropWells> tony - did sudo help?
[05:42] <jmoncayo> mshade, how can i use scp could you give me an example?
[05:42] <specialbuddy> I'm low on harddrive space and want to uninstall a quake 4 demo that I installed but I'm not sure where to go in order to get rid of it
[05:44] <specialbuddy> anyone?
[05:44] <waldo> special how di dyou install it?
[05:44] <waldo> di dyou run an installer or did you use apt-get or what
[05:44] <specialbuddy> installer
[05:44] <waldo> did the installer have an uninstaller?
[05:44] <specialbuddy> um
[05:44] <specialbuddy> let me check
[05:45] <waldo> or a flag in the installer like --uninstall
[05:45] <LathropWells> waldo - i was wondering if apt tracks all installs?
[05:45] <tony14764> I'm trying it
[05:45] <spikeb> mDot: any luck?
[05:45] <waldo> I'm no apt-expert but I don't htink it would track installations from a self-installer...
[05:45] <FX> I'm thinking I really hate this tvtuner thingy for linux. lol
[05:45] <spikeb> LathropWells: no
[05:45] <spikeb> FX: heh
[05:46] <Zetx> I'm using a marvel card and the sky2 module and my dmesg keeps telling me that the "Link is down" then shortly after "Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex, flow control none" ... I'm assuming that it's turning on and off or something. Any remedies (that doesn't require me buying a new card)?
[05:46] <jd_> hello
[05:46] <waldo> Zetx: does it keep going up and down and up and down?
[05:46] <mDot> spikeb http://pastebin.com/708824
[05:47] <waldo> and if so, when it goes off, what does dmesg say?
[05:47] <waldo> maybe it's a connectivity/interference thing w/wireless (?)
[05:48] <Zetx> it just says "sky 2 eth1: Link is down."
[05:48] <jd_> I have never used IRC before can some one tell me a bit about it
[05:48] <spikeb> hmmmm
[05:48] <ubuntu> when i run ubuntu vmx in vmware player, why does it emulate an intel 440bx motherboard
[05:48] <spikeb> mDot: now im lost
[05:48] <LathropWells> tony14, - gee sudo set and unset 32 bit access for my cdrom  "sudo hdparm -c1 /dev/cdrom" (shrug) i am easily confuzzled.
[05:48] <mDot> jd_ always.... wait... i mean NEVER believe anything anyone tells you
[05:48] <mDot> ever
[05:49] <jd_> Is this just a chat or is there more to it
[05:49] <ubuntu> is anyone running ubuntu in vmware player?
[05:50] <waldo> Ubugtu: I am occasionally in gentoo, why?
[05:50] <mDot> spikeb yeah, this is silly, im going to talk with the people at zoto.com about dbuilding a .deb pk
[05:50] <spikeb> mDot: ok
[05:50] <spikeb> mDot: or, at the very least, a fricken binary tar.gz
[05:50] <mDot> yeah
[05:52] <jd_> Help
[05:52] <waldo> is there a safe way to change the root password?  I think I picked something kinda insecure...
[05:52] <pauldaoust> hey, folks, does anybody know a way to duplicate printer settings across a whole network of computers? I've searched the Web, but haven't found anything useful... I tried copying all the CUPS configuration files from a properly configured computer to all the computers on the network, which resulted in all network printers disappearing from the GNOME printing preferences. Hurrah!
[05:53] <pauldaoust> waldo: hm, you changed the root password?
[05:53] <waldo> pauldaoust: no I mean when I first set up dapper I set it up for me.  Now I'm giving th ecomputer to a friend and I want to set the pw to something he wants...
[05:54] <spikeb> waldo: oh
[05:54] <jd_> Will someone tell be a bit about IRC
[05:54] <waldo> can I do it from Users & Groups safely in GNOME?
[05:54] <pauldaoust> waldo: ah, well, there isn't really a useful root account in Ubuntu unless you explicitly monkey around with a bunch of stuff.
[05:54] <spikeb> waldo: yes
[05:54] <waldo> pauldaoust: I don't mean the "root account" I mean the password to do sudo...
[05:54] <spikeb> waldo: it's the user's password though, not root's.
[05:54] <specialbuddy> how do I uninstall the quake4 demo
[05:54] <fourat> how to get gnome starting automaticly on system bootup
[05:54] <waldo> hmm.. if I just change my first-created user password, that will change the sudo pw?
[05:55] <spikeb> waldo: yes
[05:55] <pauldaoust> waldo: ah, I get you. simply change the password for the very first account you created (which was automatically given sudo privileges when it was created). All users with sudo privileges have their own sudo password, which matches their login password.
[05:55] <spikeb> waldo: sudo asks for the user's password when it asks for a password
[05:56] <pauldaoust> fourat: you mean, log in to a certain user's account?
[05:56] <waldo> pauldaoust: does that mean if I create a second user for my friend, I give it sudo privilages, then I can take away the sudo privs for me?
[05:56] <fourat> no
[05:56] <waldo> spikeb: that makes snes..
[05:56] <waldo> fourat: you "no"ing me?
[05:56] <pauldaoust> waldo: you could, yes.
[05:56] <spikeb> waldo: yes, you can give the second user sudo privs, then THAT users password is the sudo password, for them
[05:56] <pauldaoust> fourat: whatcha trying to do then?
[05:57] <waldo> okay, spikeb  then I can remove my own sudo privs and everything's cool?  Even delete that first account?  There's nothing about being "user #1" that's inherently important to the system... correct?
[05:57] <fourat> i have ubuntu boooting at init2 (rc2) and not loading gnome desktop, put me into shell, i execute startx to get gnome, i would like to boot to gnome directly
[05:57] <FX> does anyone got idea how  i can fix this?
[05:57] <spikeb> waldo: correct
[05:57] <FX> videoinput: Cannot open capture device evice:
[05:57] <waldo> spikeb: cool thankye
[05:57] <pauldaoust> fourat: ah, that's odd. It shouldn't start GNOME, mind you; it should start up a fancy graphical login manager called gdm
[05:57] <spikeb> waldo: just make ABSOLUTELY SURE that sudo is working for the new user before you delete your old account\
[05:58] <Zetx> oops, sorry, i spaced out for a moment.
[05:58] <Zetx> waldo: my wireless is off and this doesn't happen in a windows environment
[05:58] <pauldaoust> fourat: did you make it boot into runlevel 2? or did something go wrong in the installation?
[05:58] <waldo> spikeb: heheh yeah that makes sense :)
[05:58] <spikeb> waldo: sounds like you're good to go
[05:58] <fourat> pauldaoust, it's booting by default to init 2
[05:59] <elkbuntu> what package does one need to install to get zlib?
[05:59] <fourat> i have S13gdm in my /etc/rc2.d
[05:59] <waldo> spikeb: much thanks
[05:59] <spikeb> waldo: you bet
[05:59] <waldo> Zetx: hmm...  not sure
[05:59] <jd_>
[05:59] <specialbuddy> I love how I installed the doom 3 demo and it tells you how to install but uninstall
[05:59] <pauldaoust> fourat: bizarre.
[06:01] <waldo> now for some reason gnome-nettool keeps crashing...  ugh.
[06:02] <LKJDLFKJl> ererdfdfddsf
[06:02] <specialbuddy> how do I uninstall doom 3 demo
[06:02] <pauldaoust> jd_: those are interesting characters; they look like Ethiopian.
[06:02] <specialbuddy> has anyone come across this
[06:02] <pauldaoust> specialbuddy: not a game person myself.
[06:02] <LKJDLFKJl> yep
[06:02] <specialbuddy> ok
[06:03] <LKJDLFKJl> how do you still see my name
[06:03] <waldo> specialbuddy: by default the setup will install the files to /usr/local/games/doom3-demo
[06:03] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: because it was up above and I only just now noticed that you changed it :)
[06:03] <waldo> that's from a simple googling
[06:03] <NoUse> specialbuddy http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79623.html
[06:04] <LKJDLFKJl> I am new to this if you cant tell
[06:04] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: :)
[06:04] <specialbuddy> well I know where it's installed
[06:04] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: but how on earth did you get Coptic script in your message?!
[06:04] <waldo> specialbuddy: so delete that directory and the .doom3 directory in your home folder
[06:04] <pauldaoust> so, has anyone had experience with printers in a networked environment? I'm trying to copy network printer settings to eleven computers, and am not terrifically excited about the prospect of going into each computer's System > Printers control panel and creating two new printers and typing in the URL for each one and changing each from A4 to US letter. phew!
[06:04] <LKJDLFKJl> I have no idea?
[06:05] <specialbuddy> will that completely get rid of it waldo?
[06:05] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: Hah! so you're not an Ethiopian yourself?
[06:05] <waldo> specialbuddy: apparently, according to what I'm reading online in 2 different places.
[06:05] <NoUse> specialbuddy read the link I sent you, they talk specifically about how to remove doom3
[06:05] <specialbuddy> ok
[06:05] <waldo> specialbuddy: you should google a little before you ask
[06:05] <waldo> specialbuddy: the answer was right here
[06:06] <specialbuddy> thankyou
[06:06] <LKJDLFKJl> do you mean these
[06:06] <spikeb> hey!
[06:06] <spikeb> those are cool
[06:06] <specialbuddy> I'm just used to windows where you are not supposed to just delete a folder
[06:06] <spikeb> specialbuddy: hehe
[06:07] <waldo> specialbuddy: linux is different.  Mac is different even more :)
[06:07] <NoUse> specialbuddy if you isntall via apt or synaptic you shouldn't but with games that have their own install script it shouldn't hurt much
[06:07] <waldo> w/mac you just drag/drop the application in the trash
[06:07] <LKJDLFKJl>
[06:07] <spikeb> waldo: theoretically
[06:07] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: that is fantastic. no idea what it means, but hey!
[06:07] <waldo> spikeb: yeah... you do have preferences/caches/etc to deal with too
[06:07] <specialbuddy> ok
[06:07] <spikeb> waldo: yeah
[06:08] <specialbuddy> I think I will do the same with Quake then
[06:08] <LKJDLFKJl> I said you right click on the back and select imput methods
[06:08] <waldo> I'm suprised there isan't an apt-get package for quake/doom etc
[06:08] <spikeb> waldo: there probably is for quake pre-4
[06:08] <spikeb> waldo: and doom pre-3
[06:08] <spikeb> those are all open source ow
[06:08] <spikeb> now
[06:08] <waldo> so-- specialbuddy -- use those if you can.
[06:09] <pauldaoust> LKJDLFKJl: .
[06:09] <LKJDLFKJl> nice
[06:09] <waldo> who wants to help me figure out why my fresh install of Dapper crashes w/gnome-nettool
[06:09] <specialbuddy> apt didn't have any
[06:09] <waldo> segfaults
[06:09] <spikeb> waldo: i can tell you right now: because it's dapper :)
[06:09] <waldo> hrmph
[06:10] <specialbuddy> how do I rmdir if there is stuff in it
[06:10] <spikeb> specialbuddy: rm -r, or rm -rf if you're SUREe you want it all gone
[06:10] <specialbuddy> ok
[06:10] <specialbuddy> thanks
[06:10] <spikeb> night folks, im outta here
[06:10] <yaaar> spikeb: that's a kind of lame excuse. when they went to do the delay of dapper, they did it saying that the betas around 4/20 would be 'as stable as breezy'
[06:10] <waldo> specialbuddy: be careful with that rm -rf command
[06:11] <specialbuddy> well I'm just getting rid of the folder like you suggested
[06:12] <waldo> specialbuddy: okay..  cuz if you're in the wrong directory with "rm -rf *" you could seriously do some damage
[06:12] <specialbuddy> yeah
[06:12] <specialbuddy> thanks for the warning
[06:12] <Fiyawerx> hi guys, can anyone help me with some partitioning suggestions?
[06:12] <specialbuddy> :)
[06:12] <waldo> np
[06:13] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: probably....just ask
[06:13] <Fiyawerx> or is there somewhere else i should be asking? doing a new format of my desktop pc, want to save some room for a linux install
[06:13] <specialbuddy> I've already learned my lesson from doing that for the most part
[06:13] <Fiyawerx> and have liked ubuntu so far from playing with it on my laptop
[06:13] <Fiyawerx> have 230 gigs or so on my hd free
[06:13] <mDot> how to i enable vsync in mplayer?
[06:13] <Fiyawerx> and would like to have a decent amount of shared space that the linux could write to, it can't natively write to ntfs, right?
[06:14] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: hehe....well, any amount you want to leave to linux is your business. you won't need any more than around 5g
[06:14] <Fiyawerx> well, was thinking for torrents and things like that, too
[06:14] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: it cannot write to ntfs. it has good read/write support for fat
[06:14] <Fiyawerx> i guess my main question is
[06:14] <Fiyawerx> is it bad to have most of my hd fat32
[06:14] <specialbuddy> how do I find out how much space is on my computer
[06:14] <specialbuddy> or on my drive I mean
[06:14] <Fiyawerx> and just do like a 10 gig folder for my windows installation with ntfs
[06:14] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: well, it depends on what you mean by 'bad'
[06:15] <Fiyawerx> well, ok, what's the downfall of doing it that way?
[06:15] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: it's not the fastest file system around, or the most reliable or stable....
[06:15] <Fiyawerx> hmm
[06:15] <zeeble> Hello
[06:15] <miracle> hi
[06:16] <yaaar> when compared to ntfs or any of the mainstream linus fs it's not very good on paper. but it's really nice as a lowest common denominator....pretty much everything can write to fat
[06:16] <specialbuddy> whats the easiest way to find out how much space is on my harddrive
[06:16] <yaaar> specialbuddy: df -h
[06:16] <zeeble> df -h
[06:16] <specialbuddy> cool
[06:16] <specialbuddy> thanks
[06:16] <miracle> df -sh
[06:16] <specialbuddy> that works really well
[06:16] <specialbuddy> :)
[06:16] <Fiyawerx> and mostly with the windows install will be playing games, sorting music files
[06:17] <miracle> is windows still alive?
[06:17] <yaaar> Fiyawerx: i use fat on all my removable media, and for the windows partition on the only dual boot machine i still have (it's got a 5g fat partition and the other 55g reiser for linux), but otherwise i don't use it
[06:17] <Fiyawerx> yeah i think my external usb drive is fat, last i checked
[06:18] <Fiyawerx> ok, so maybe 10 for windows install part, 10 for linux install (just to be fair), 150 ntfs, 60 fat32 for whatever i'd want to do / xfer in linux?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> You can set up XP to read/write to the ext2/3 file system of linux
[06:20] <mabus> How come I can't seem to use putty to connect to my ubuntu ssh server from home
[06:20] <yaaar> really!
[06:20] <mabus> from school I mean
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:20] <slackern> mabus: have you installed openssh-server?
[06:20] <yaaar> wow...that's a neat trick Dr_Willis where's the scoop
[06:20] <yaaar> oh...he beat me to it
[06:20] <slackern> mabus: it's not installed as default
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> thers other ways of doing that as well.  but i like that way
[06:20] <mabus> slackern: yes... and it's running on a non-standard port
[06:20] <Fiyawerx> how stable is it?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> i keep all my mp3's and stuff on a spare ext3 partition. now.
[06:21] <mabus> slackern: err... not openssh-server, but sshd... openssh-server is for windows right
[06:21] <bbrazil> mabus: ubuntu uses openssh
[06:21] <slackern> slackern@nova:~$ apt-cache search openssh-server | openssh-server - Secure shell server, an rshd replacement
[06:21] <mabus> Okay well either way, I have it set up properly.
[06:21] <bbrazil> mabus: I'm guessing a firewall
[06:22] <mabus> I just can't login from school, even though it's on a non stanard port. How could I fix this?
[06:22] <slackern> mabus: only thing i can think of then is portforwarding problems, or your school is blocking it somehow.
[06:22] <mabus> It's on port 32337
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Egads! not port 32337!
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:22] <bbrazil> mabus: put it on 443 or 80, that's probably open
[06:23] <slackern> mabus: did you change the port in the sshd settings?
[06:23] <slackern> or just forward port 32337 to 22 ?
[06:23] <mabus> can I put it on 23? I can connect to ftp sessions
[06:23] <slackern> 21 is ftp
[06:23] <mabus> yeah... I have it working
[06:23] <mabus> not the problem
[06:23] <mabus> the sshd itself
[06:25] <slackern> mabus: hmm, i could try connecting to it from here if you want and see if i get a response
[06:25] <Ademan> xmms keeps complaining about "not being able to capture the sound device" or something along those lines.  It will play if i persistently press the play button (it seems to be competing with GAIM for the sound card... but why the heck would only one app be able to have it... shouldnt multiple be able to have it?
[06:26] <bbrazil> Ademan: depends on the soundcard and driver
[06:26] <Ademan> bbrazil: under windows i had no problem with multiple apps using the sound card
[06:26] <Ademan> is this a config problem then?
[06:26] <Ademan> wrong driver maybe?
[06:27] <bbrazil> Ademan: no, the chances are your card can only handle one channel at a time. If you use something like esd it'll mix them aiui
[06:27] <mabus> slackern: That's not it... I can connect to it fine, it's the school. I just don't know what i can do other than putting it on a non standard port. And now, with it on port 21, it's just a blinking cursor when I try to connect to localhost
[06:28] <mabus> (and specify the port as 21)
[06:28] <bbrazil> mabus: possibly a trasnsparent ftp proxy
[06:28] <Ademan> bbrazil: one channel? really?... i'm pretty sure my sound blaster 16 from 1992 had more than one channel...
[06:28] <Flannel> it did!
[06:29] <bbrazil> Ademan: I haven't looked into it a lot
[06:29] <nseltzer> Hey all
[06:29] <Ademan> although it is pretty possible that all the mixing WAS done in software (for my current card)
[06:29] <nseltzer> I have a question about my initial ubuntu install if anyone is interested in trying to help out
[06:29] <Ademan> nseltzer: dont ask to ask, just ask, and we'll all try to answer
[06:29] <nseltzer> k, thanks
[06:30] <bbrazil> Ademan: but anyway, artsd or esd should be able to solve the problem
[06:30] <Ademan> alright thanks
[06:30] <Ademan> could i get either through synaptic?
[06:30] <nseltzer> I just resized my partition and installed ubuntu on the new partition with a swap partition; all in all a generic install, but when I go to boot to it.
[06:30] <BHSPitMonkey> ugh
[06:31] <nseltzer> I get an error about a video device not being configured correctly and then it goes blank
[06:31] <nseltzer> any suggestions?
[06:31] <Ademan> do you have text input?
[06:31] <Ademan> ie a console?
[06:31] <nseltzer> no
[06:31] <nseltzer> blank
[06:31] <nseltzer> nothing
[06:31] <Ademan> nothing?
[06:31] <Ademan> alright
[06:31] <Ademan> do you use lilo?
[06:31] <nseltzer> grub
[06:31] <BHSPitMonkey> ok, I'm new to ubuntu... what's the deal with root passwords?
[06:31] <bbrazil> !rootsudo
[06:31] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:31] <Ademan> k do you know how to get to the boot menu?
[06:31] <BHSPitMonkey> ouch
[06:31] <BHSPitMonkey> that messes me up...
[06:32] <bbrazil> BHSPitMonkey: read that link
[06:32] <nseltzer> Could you tell me how?
[06:32] <Ademan> hold on, i'll try myself, i think you hit escape as its starting up
[06:32] <Ademan> (grub)
[06:32] <nseltzer> ok, yeah I can get there, sorry
[06:32] <Ademan> its ok
[06:32] <paradizelost> hey, anyone rememmber what year it was that september only had like 14 days in it? like back in the 13-1500's??/
[06:33] <Ademan> you want your command line to be something like "linux init=/bin/bash"
[06:33] <bbrazil> paradizelost: pope gregory's 10 days? Varies by country.
[06:33] <jepes> how to make a boot floppy for ubuntu? i want it to boot my ubuntu from windowsXp's boot menu...
[06:33] <nseltzer> It load ubuntu
[06:33] <paradizelost> on linux cal
[06:33] <nseltzer> err loads
[06:33] <nseltzer> it comes up, I get past the loading of all of the packages
[06:34] <nseltzer> but at that point when it goes to load the GUI it blanks out after flashing something about the video adapter
[06:34] <nseltzer> meh
[06:34] <Flannel> nseltzer: ctrl-alt-f1, does it get you to a text prompt?
[06:34] <specialbuddy> when I use my usb hard drive it works fine but I wanted to set up my fstab so that it will recognize them as certain folders
[06:34] <nseltzer> I'm on the pooter on my XP partition
[06:35] <Ademan> nseltzer: with the boot options i gave you? it shouldnt even try to load the gui
[06:35] <specialbuddy> how do I do this because it won't let me look at the ntfs drives
[06:35] <paradizelost> whihc year usa?
[06:35] <specialbuddy> how do I do this because it won't let me look at the ntfs drives
[06:35] <Flannel> specialbuddy: do what?
[06:35] <paradizelost> nm.  found it
[06:35] <nseltzer> ademanI'll try that, but I'll have to get back to you on that.
[06:35] <Ademan> ok
[06:35] <Ademan> good luck
[06:35] <nseltzer> Thanks
[06:35] <Ademan> and just fyi
[06:36] <specialbuddy> well I plug it in and it works fine but I want it so that when it's plugged in it will always be a certain drive
[06:36] <Ademan> it MIGHT be "kernel init=/bin/bash"
[06:36] <Ademan> try both if the first doesnt work
[06:36] <Ademan> it will boot you into the bash console
[06:36] <Ademan> ie no GUI
[06:36] <Ademan> from there
[06:36] <specialbuddy> so I set it up in the fstab but now it comes up and won't let me look at any of the files in the ntfs drive
[06:36] <nseltzer> okies
[06:36] <Ademan> you'll want to...
[06:37] <Ademan> dpkg-reconfigure Xorg   i believe
[06:37] <nseltzer> you'd know better than I would
[06:37] <nseltzer> What does that do?
[06:37] <Flannel> specialbuddy: will it let you as root?
[06:37] <zcat[1] > Ademan: there's no package Xorg ?
[06:37] <Ademan> it should have you reconfigure X.org (your GUI)
[06:37] <Ademan> zcat[1] : oh i forgot the package name then
[06:37] <zcat[1] > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:38] <specialbuddy> Flannel, yes
[06:38] <Ademan> there we go
[06:38] <Ademan> nseltzer: what zcat[1]  said
[06:38] <nseltzer> sweet!
[06:38] <nseltzer> thanks!
[06:38] <Ademan> np, good luck
[06:38] <BHSPitMonkey> hey, um, where should I go to get wine?
[06:38] <nseltzer> I will definately have to come back when I can't figure this out.
[06:38] <Ademan> if it doesnt boot to the bash console come back
[06:38] <nseltzer> k
[06:38] <Flannel> BHSPitMonkey: the repositories.  universe I believe.
[06:38] <nseltzer> thx
[06:38] <Ademan> np
[06:38] <BHSPitMonkey> Flannel, it's not showing up in any...
[06:39] <zcat[1] > Oh well.. my test machine is officially screwed.. I was worried that it kept crashing in Dapper.. but it's not a dapper problem. It won't even boot windows any more.
[06:39] <Ademan> zcat[1] : since you seem knowledgable (sp) booting into the bash console with grub is "kernel init=/bin/bash" or "linux init=/bin/bash" or none of the above?
[06:39] <Flannel> BHSPitMonkey: there's a package called "wine", it's in the repositories.  in universe.
[06:40] <mickel> halloo
[06:40] <zcat[1] > Ademan: add init=/bin/bash to whatever kernel options you already have .. if it's grub, 'e' to edit abd 'b' to boot. For lilo press tab to see what kernels there are
[06:41] <Ademan> zcat[1] : crap, well i royally screwed him then
[06:41] <Flannel> specialbuddy: this page has a think about permissions, 3/5s of the way down : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:41] <Ademan> he's not gonna make it past grub
[06:41] <mickel> huhuuu!! kennt jemand von euch ein gutes downloadprogramm fr ubuntu??
[06:41] <specialbuddy> thanks Flannel
[06:41] <Flannel> !de
[06:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[06:42] <BHSPitMonkey> Flannel, perhaps this is affecting my search: "W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[06:42] <BHSPitMonkey> "
[06:42] <motoko> Hello
[06:42] <Ademan> VSFTPD > wu_ftp ?
[06:42] <motoko> what do I run to reconfigure my video settings?
[06:42] <Flannel> BHSPitMonkey: looks like you've got the same line in your sources.list twice.
[06:42] <zcat[1] > BHSPitLappy: fastest way of fixing that; build a cleen sources.list using source-o-matic
[06:43] <Ademan> apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:43] <Ademan> ?
[06:43] <eggzeck> no
[06:43] <zcat[1] > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:43] <Ademan> motoko: what exactly do you want to reconfigure?
[06:43] <Flannel> mickel: download program for what?
[06:43] <eggzeck> dpkg-reconfigure
[06:43] <Ademan> and eggzeck is right, i goofed again lol
[06:43] <Ademan> zcat[1]  too
[06:43] <mickel> a downloadprogramm for ubuntu, i have ubuntu and i will sound and films downloaden
[06:44] <Ademan> mickel: aMule
[06:44] <specialbuddy> I figured it out flannel
[06:44] <specialbuddy> thanks
[06:44] <motoko> Ademan: I just installed Ubuntu and X is failing. It's because I have a Radeon X1300 which isn't supported by the ATI driver yet but it's trying to use it.
[06:44] <mickel> is that a freewareprogramm??
[06:44] <Flannel> it's in the repositories
[06:44] <Ademan> then in the terminal type what zcat[1]  said
[06:44] <Ademan> mickel: yes its open source too if i'm not mistaken
[06:45] <eggzeck> !frostwire
[06:45] <Flannel> it is.  It has to be, to be included in the repositories.
[06:45] <mickel> okay
[06:45] <mickel> thx
[06:45] <jepes> how to make a boot floppy for ubuntu? i want it to boot my ubuntu from windowsXp's boot menu...
[06:45] <Ademan> Flannel: really? what about multiverse and universe? do they have to be?
[06:45] <eggzeck> ubotu tell mickel about frostwire
[06:45] <zcat[1] > oh well, I'm going to inflict dapper on my family now :)
[06:45] <motoko> thank you
[06:47] <zcat[1] > Cairo's been using it already. I think it's stable enough. I'm not waiting three more weeks :)
[06:47] <eggzeck> zcat[1] , haha, you're so impatient that I feel like upgrading too
[06:47] <eggzeck> But I can't :)
[06:48] <zcat[1] > funny thing, Cairo (my 8yo) loves Compiz. Compiz uses cairo (the graphich library)
[06:48] <morphix> how do i set up SWAT ?
[06:48] <zcat[1] > sorry 9yo..
[06:49] <motoko> Any recommendations on which driver I should select?
[06:49] <eggzeck> morphix, is that the samba admin tool thing?
[06:49] <morphix> yeh
[06:49] <morphix> i installed it using apt-get install
[06:49] <morphix> but it doesnt auto load.. nor does it seem to have a init.d script
[06:49] <zcat[1] > It's web based. http://localhost:9001 or something..
[06:49] <morphix> i know..
[06:50] <morphix> its http://localhost:901 btw
[06:50] <eggzeck> I'm not sure about that one sorry
[06:50] <morphix> there is no init.d script
[06:50] <jmoncayo> after i remove ubuntu from my box how can i erase the grub loader? it keeps showing menu
[06:50] <zcat[1] > weird.. ok.
[06:50] <zcat[1] > jmoncayo: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[06:50] <morphix> jmoncayo: you dual booting with XP ??
[06:51] <dli> zcat[1] , hehe
[06:51] <zithowa> if I want to back up my whole system, what do I have to do?
[06:51] <zcat[1] > This will of course kill XP since you'll have no bootloader.
[06:51] <jmoncayo> morphix, yew with win me
[06:51] <morphix> oh winme
[06:51] <morphix> i'm not sure with Win Me
[06:51] <dli> zithowa, what program for backing up?
[06:51] <zcat[1] > But since XP always kills linux when you install it, that seems like fair play to me
[06:52] <jepes> zcat : there a trick in windowsXp to boot an floppy directly
[06:52] <morphix> u need to fix the mbr (which will delete GRUB and use windows mbr)
[06:52] <zcat[1] > For WinME boot from the install floppy and type "fdisk /mbr"
[06:52] <jmoncayo> morphix, how can i do that with win xp?
[06:52] <dli> jmoncayo, it's nothing of my business, but winme sucks a lot, try to change
[06:52] <zithowa> dli: sure, if I need one.  I have a blank hard drive I want to transfer my current install to
[06:52] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm confused...
[06:52] <morphix> jmoncayo: just use the win xp cd.. go to recovery console and type, fixmbr
[06:53] <jmoncayo> dli,  i know it sucks but i have an old computer and win 98 gave me errors that box is for my sister to play
[06:53] <morphix> and thats it
[06:53] <Flannel> Ademan: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components/
[06:53] <zithowa> it seems like I could just copy root, but that wouldn't take care of the file system
[06:53] <dli> zithowa, "cp -a" can do it, but don't cp /dev /proc /sys
[06:53] <jmoncayo> oki
[06:53] <Eleaf> goodnight
[06:53] <zithowa> dli: will that copy boot records and all, too?
[06:53] <morphix> how do i set up SWAT, i have installed it using apt-get install, but it has no init.d script so i cant run it, any help??
[06:54] <BHSPitMonkey> was I not supposed to put the source-o-matic contents into /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:54] <dli> zithowa, "ls /", get the list, and use "cp -a" to cp them, of course, rsync can use --exclude=
[06:54] <zithowa> dli: thanks :)
[06:54] <zcat[1] > the best way to backup is copy the filesystem with cp -a or tar or rsync, and use grub-install from a live cd to rebuild grub..
[06:54] <mickel> kann jemand von euch gut deutsch??
[06:55] <tritium> !de
[06:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[06:55] <Flannel> mickel: ja, aber deutsch sprache im #ubuntu-de
[06:55] <zcat[1] > If you try to do an exact image, you limit your recovery options to the same type and size of drive
[06:55] <dli> zithowa, no :( but boot loader can be easily installed
[06:55] <mickel> wie kome ich dort drauf??
[06:56] <victori> what is the unstable branch for ubuntu?
[06:56] <victori> dapper?
[06:56] <zcat[1] > !dapper
[06:56] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:56] <victori> !unstable
[06:56] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, victori
[06:56] <victori> I am coming from debian, so I was always using unstable.
[06:57] <zcat[1] > dapper is the next release. I'm unstable.
[06:57] <victori> I don't mind breakage since I know how to fix stuff my self.
[06:57] <harisund> Is there like a talk page for the ubuntu wiki? I want to make an edit regarding the SSH page (Basically I want to mention about creating config files)
[06:58] <adammichaelroach> is there a program out there that will check an mp3 collection for incomplete albums/songs
[06:58] <johntramp> hey if i have signed up for shipit before, will they automatically send me the new version when it is released or do i need to order again?
[06:59] <zcat[1] > i had to order again for breezy..
[06:59] <eggzeck> I think you'll need to order again
[06:59] <johntramp> adammichaelroach, i have been using picard
[06:59] <johntramp> ok
[06:59] <r0xoR> does ubuntu have a firewall installed and enabled as per the default install of Breezy?
[06:59] <eggzeck> es, iptables
[06:59] <zcat[1] > i waited three months too before I figured out I probably had to reorder :(
[06:59] <eggzeck> r0bby, iptables
[06:59] <eggzeck> damn tab
[07:00] <eggzeck> r0xoR, iptables
[07:00] <r0xoR> k, and how would i go about shutting it off?
[07:00] <eggzeck> r0bby, it doesn't filter anything by default
[07:00] <eggzeck> r0xoR, *
[07:00] <dli> zcat[1] , why couldn't you just download?
[07:00] <r0xoR> k
[07:00] <zcat[1] > I already had, and picked up a few CD's from wlug..
[07:01] <eggzeck> r0xoR, iptables is advanced, and will only filter that which you tell it too
[07:01] <zcat[1] > but I like having a big stack to pass out at meetings
[07:01] <adammichaelroach> johntramp, could you point me to a site for picard?
[07:02] <Flannel> r0xoR: chances are you won't need a firewall though.  Ubuntu has nothing listening for a default install, so you can install it afterwards, without any worries.
[07:02] <Flannel> r0xoR: and there are a few 'firewalls' like the ones youre familiar with available.
[07:02] <yuan> is there any rules ??
[07:02] <Flannel> yuan: rules for what?
[07:02] <r0xoR> !rules
[07:02] <ubotu> You are invited to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:06] <eXcentra> Is there any way to detect my networking card? because it's not detecting it during boot up (along with my sound card, etc) and isn't listed in the Networking menu. (technically, this is a dapper problem but I figured that I could get some fundamental answers here)
[07:06] <zcat[1] > what chipset?
[07:06] <zcat[1] > lshw or lspci..
[07:07] <eXcentra> :?
[07:07] <eXcentra> sorry, i'm not too knowledgable about this stuff, especially networking..
[07:07] <zcat[1] > open a terminal and type lspci, look for the network card and it'll tell you what it is.
[07:07] <cge> eXcentra: or post it in #flood
[07:08] <eXcentra> :/
[07:08] <cge> eXcentra: ?
[07:08] <yuan> how can i set my ubuntu boot up without  adjust time on line??
[07:08] <Ademan> tried to compile (through make) esd... and it came up with a problem with RTLD_NEXT not being defined... a little googling seemed to suggest this was gcc's fault?
[07:09] <animepunkw> Hi I need some help , I'm trying to compile MPlayer from source when i do ./configure --enable-gui --enable-largefiles --enable-menu --prefix=/usr --confdir=/etc/mplayer
[07:09] <animepunkw>    i get an error Error: X11 support required for GUI compilation.  help me plz , i'm a noob with linux :(
[07:09] <dli> animepunkw, I think you need libxt-dev
[07:09] <Flannel> animepunkw: any reason youre compiling?
[07:09] <cge> animepunkw: use apt-get build-dep mplayer
[07:09] <dli> animepunkw, and libX11-dev
[07:10] <cge> animepunkw: apt-get build-dep mplayer will install all of these things for you.
[07:10] <animepunkw> yeah i used that , but the got an error with the skin and couldn't play .mkv files
[07:10] <cge> animepunkw: build-dep, not install. build-dep installs the dev packages needed to build the package from source.
[07:10] <dli> animepunkw, you can get the skin from mplayerhq.hu, and read docs there for .mkv
[07:11] <eXcentra> zcat[1] : i'm on windows right now so i can't do the terminal stuff but it's a Broadcom 440x 10/100 integrated controller
[07:11] <bbrazil> Ademan: why don't you just use the ubuntu package?
[07:12] <yuan> hi i need help  when my ubuntu boot up it always check time on the server , how can i configure it to make ubuntu boot up without checking time
[07:12] <dli> eXcentra, b44 NIC card is support in kernel
[07:12] <animepunkw> K thanks every one , I'm gonna keep pluging away at this , this distro is rockin ^^
[07:12] <dli> yuan, rc-update.d -f ntpdate remove
[07:13] <yuan> wow  thx
[07:13] <bbrazil> yuan: actually, that'll be undone the next time it's upgraded
[07:13] <dli> animepunkw, building your own mplayer is recommended by mplayerhq.hu, and try totem also
[07:13] <zcat[1] > 1425 upgraded, 183 newly installed, 57 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[07:13] <zcat[1] > Need to get 1190MB of archives.
[07:14] <unfo> totem rocks.
[07:14] <zcat[1] > Hmmmm this might take a while :)
[07:14] <cge> zcat[1] : that's when you wish you had a complete mirror on your LAN.
[07:14] <dli> zcat[1] , that's a huge installation
[07:14] <zcat[1] > I have gnome and kde on the box..
[07:14] <animepunkw> Yeah i use Totem for most files so far . I also figure if i build my own MPlayer i'll learn more about whats going on
[07:15] <dli> zcat[1] , I have gnome kde openoffice
[07:15] <BHSPitMonkey> how can one enable the root account
[07:15] <zcat[1] > I might get rid of kde and just stick with gnome..
[07:15] <Flannel> !tell BHSPitMonkey about root
[07:15] <cge> BHSPitMonkey: sudo passwd
[07:15] <dli> animepunkw, read docs at mplayerhq.hu
[07:15] <BHSPitMonkey> thanks
[07:16] <UUT> hi, guys, i'm ubuntu new comer, i try to install ubuntu but i've problem the video mode, i can't choose video mode, when system booting the monitor blank because the video mode not support, please guide me to overcome this problem
[07:17] <dli> UUT, can you Ctl-Alt-F1
[07:17] <cge> UUT: try pressing Ctrl-Alt-Numpad + or Numpad -
[07:17] <cge> UUT: I assume you are talking about the livecd?
[07:17] <yuan> dli , i try to use rc-update in my bash , but it says "bash: rc-update.d: command not found
[07:17] <yuan> "
[07:17] <UUT> no, i use install cd
[07:18] <dli> yuan, update-rc.d
[07:18] <dli> yuan, just in case, you should run it in sudo
[07:18] <yuan> dli , thx alot
[07:18] <yuan> i use the root account
[07:19] <cge> Why does RootSudo on the wiki say never to use sudo for X based programs? I've used it that way for years, and have never had a problem.
[07:19] <dli> yuan, also have a look at /etc/default/ntpdate , maybe, you don't have to disable it
[07:19] <slackern> cge: Well you can drive a car a lifetime without a seatbelt too
[07:20] <cge> slackern: yes, but what is the problem. Why would doing so change ownership of .ICEauthority?
[07:20] <Flannel> cge: because gksudo is safer
[07:20] <dli> cge, I installed sux
[07:21] <slackern> cge: sorry you lost me, you where talking about that you used it for years and never had a problem?
[07:22] <UUT> ok, thanks for the help
[07:22] <bharath> In breezy and dapper, gnome-keyring-manager does not allow me to add/edit keys. But it can read the old ones stored with FC4's gnome-keyring-manager.
[07:22] <bharath> Is revelation a replacement to gnome-keyring-manager ??
[07:22] <slackern> cge: been up all night here so a bit mushy in the brain right now, can't really see what that has to do with overship on .ICEauthority?
[07:23] <cge> slackern: The wiki seems to imply that doing so changes the ownership of .ICEauthority to root.root.
[07:24] <Madpilot> cge, it can and it does - did it to me just after I started using Ubuntu last year... :|
[07:24] <cge> Madpilot: hmmm... I ask because it sounds like a bug.
[07:24] <slackern> cge: Oh hehe
[07:25] <yuan> dli ,   i just have another question , how can i list all the things that system init ?
[07:25] <dli> yuan, "ls -l /etc/rc2.d/"
[07:25] <Madpilot> cge, it's a bug, for sure
[07:25] <cge> Madpilot: do you remember what program you were trying to run? I would rather not install kwifimanager.
[07:25] <dli> yuan, maybe, ubuntu uses runlevel3 by default
[07:26] <Madpilot> cge, can't remember, sorry
[07:26] <yuan> dli, so thx , i have a try
[07:27] <cge> Madpilot: was it a kde-based program?
[07:28] <Madpilot> cge, it might have been k3b - I can't really remember, though
[07:28] <cge> Madpilot: that is probably it, thanks.
[07:28] <slackern> cge: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/17635/ it seems to be a bug in several distros too
[07:29] <nseltzer> ademan
[07:29] <nseltzer> I am back :P
[07:30] <nseltzer> I went and entered the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" command and was told that I needed to be root
[07:30] <cge> nseltzer: use sudo dpkg-reconf...
[07:30] <nseltzer> thanks... did I mention that i am slightly new at this? :P
[07:32] <victori> hmm which distro would you say has more packages debian or ubuntu?
[07:32] <cge> victori: debian
[07:32] <victori> still debian?
[07:32] <victori> interesting.
[07:33] <mustard5> victori, debian
[07:33] <victori> thanks
[07:33] <victori> any possible way to confirm it?
[07:33] <cge> victori: Though they are actually pretty much the same due to universe, debian has better support for packages outside of ubuntu's main.
[07:33] <victori> and ubuntu has i686 packages correct?
[07:33] <cge> victori: I don't think so
[07:34] <victori> I am a long time debian user , which migrated to gentoo for the top notch amd64 support, however I am looking into ubuntu
[07:34] <dli> victori, I think gentoo has more packages
[07:34] <cge> dli, gentoo cheats
[07:34] <victori> how so?
[07:35] <dli> victori, because many packages couldn't be in debian due to debian's free software standard, not even in debian non-free
[07:35] <victori> that is why there is apt-get.org ;-)
[07:35] <cge> victori: because of source vs. binary packages
[07:36] <Ademan> bbrazil: heh, well i couldn't find the ubuntu package in synaptic... maybe i'm missing a repos?
[07:36] <victori> thanks for the insight.
[07:36] <cge> victori: and downloading sources directly instead of hosting packages containing the source.
[07:36] <dli> victori, that's pointless, you can only compile official releases
[07:37] <mustard5> Ademan, which package you after?
[07:37] <Ademan> esd
[07:37] <cge> Ademan: esound
[07:38] <cge> Ademan: esd isn't the actual name of the program.
[07:38] <jmoncayo> have somebody used vncviewer?
[07:38] <cge> jmoncayo: yes
[07:38] <Ademan> cge: oh... well iirc that package was installed
[07:41] <Ademan> it was installed
[07:42] <jmoncayo> cge, does it support protocol 4?
[07:42] <Ademan> and i'm still having major problems with xmms complaining that my sound card is blocked
[07:42] <LuisFer> I HAVE PROBLEMS IS PARTITIONING
[07:42] <LuisFer> EXT2 EXT3
[07:42] <LuisFer> SWAPS?
[07:42] <cge> jmoncayo: I think there is a vncviewer4
[07:42] <Ademan> turn off capslock
[07:42] <LuisFer> SOMEONE CAN HELPME?
[07:42] <LuisFer> ok
[07:42] <mustard5> LuisFer, try turning your Caps lock off please :)
[07:42] <Ademan> ok
[07:42] <Ademan> now that we've done that
[07:43] <Ademan> you know ubuntu can automatically partition your computer right?
[07:43] <jmoncayo> cge, i only need to type vncviewer4 ip.ip.ip.ip?
[07:43] <cge> jmoncayo: At least, there was on debian. Let me look
[07:43] <LuisFer> yes but i have problems
[07:43] <mustard5> LuisFer, are you installing for the first time?
[07:43] <LuisFer> i have installed befor ubuntu
[07:43] <cge> jmoncayo: Hmm...
[07:43] <LuisFer> is the 2nd
[07:43] <Ademan> anyways, SWAP is a partition that linux uses like windows uses virtual memory, its hard drive space it pages to (iirc)
[07:44] <LuisFer> but i have problems i use Norton Partition Magic
[07:44] <LuisFer> give me errors
[07:44] <cge> jmoncayo: Ah - you need to install xvnc4viewer.
[07:44] <LuisFer> in installing
[07:44] <Ademan> EXT2 EXT3 are just types of file systems, EXT3 is newer and i guess "better" so you could use that for your ubuntu partition
[07:45] <mustard5> LuisFer, Parition Magic gave you errors?
[07:45] <Ademan> LuisFer: try and type on less lines too, and just out with it, whats the error? what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:45] <zcat[1] > ext3 is ext2 with journalling..
[07:45] <LuisFer> so i have to do an EXT2
[07:45] <LuisFer> no ubuntu installer
[07:45] <jmoncayo> cge, xvncviewer4? is it different than vncvierwer4?
[07:45] <mustard5> LuisFer, or the Ubuntu installer gave you errors, after paritioning?
[07:45] <cge> jmoncayo: It turns out there isn't a vncviewer4 package.
[07:45] <Ademan> zcat[1] : i did not know... anywho, what exactly IS journaling? i know xfs supports it but i havent a clue what it actually means
[07:46] <Madpilot> LuisFer, Ubuntu's installer has a partitioner in it, you know
[07:46] <mustard5> LuisFer, so what was the error message?
[07:46] <jmoncayo> cge, oki thanks i thought there was something like vncviewer for test mode =)
[07:46] <LuisFer> is in spanish
[07:46] <cge> jmoncayo: what do you mean?
[07:46] <LuisFer> ill try to translate
[07:46] <LuisFer> cannot install packs
[07:46] <cge> jmoncayo: It is just the package naming - xvnc4viewer is the package you want
[07:46] <zcat[1] > the kernel writes to disk what it's about to do, then does it.. if the computer crashes anywhere in the process there's a record of what it was doing in case things get corrupted.. something like that.
[07:47] <Madpilot> LuisFer, there's a #ubuntu-es channel too, if you want Spanish speakers
[07:47] <LuisFer> thanks english is ok
[07:47] <cge> jmoncayo: The package used to be named vnc4viewer, but apparently the name changed.
[07:48] <Ademan> zcat[1] : i knew so little about file systems i assumed that was done anyways haha... seems like a pretty valuable feature for detecting corruption
[07:48] <jmoncayo> cge, well if i want to connect to another box i need to type xvncviewer4 ip.ip.ip.ip ??
[07:49] <cge> jmoncayo: xvnc4viwer ip.ip.ip.ip, or just run xvnc4viewer and it will ask you for the ip.
[07:49] <mustard5> LuisFer, so how does that error relate to partitioning?
[07:49] <jmoncayo> cge, oki thanks a lot
[07:49] <cge> jmoncayo: you're welcome
[07:50] <Ademan> anyone in here ever have trouble with hw_random?
[07:51] <nseltzer> Once I get in to the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" what do I do?
[07:51] <mustard5> LuisFer, did you tell the Ubuntu install disk partitioner to format the new partitions you created?
[07:51] <Ademan> it should give you a bunch of options and dialogs
[07:51] <nseltzer> Yes
[07:51] <Ademan> to configure your xserver to work with your card
[07:51] <Ademan> it generally is good at autodetecting everything
[07:51] <orbin> nseltzer: why are you running it in the 1st place?
[07:52] <Ademan> orbin: his Xorg is broken
[07:52] <nseltzer> my xorg is uber ripped :P
[07:52] <orbin> broken how?
[07:52] <Ademan> kills his system?
[07:52] <mustard5> nseltzer, for the most part you choose the default options until you get to the thing you want to change
[07:52] <Ademan> lol
[07:52] <nseltzer> I'm going to try switching over to the nVidia card to see if it autodetects
[07:52] <nseltzer> THe onboard intel didn't detect
[07:52] <basilio> hi all how can i install some software in apt-cache =?
[07:53] <roy-s> hi
[07:53] <nseltzer> hi
[07:53] <Ademan> anyone familiar with the vsftpd?
[07:53] <jmoncayo> i added an alias to /root/.bashrc but when i use sudo <alias> it says command not found why?
[07:53] <mustard5> nseltzer, it might be better to choose 'vesa' for troubleshooting
[07:53] <basilio> i want to install gtkpod
[07:53] <Ademan> vesa will NOT crash on you.. like 99%, unless the problem is elsewhere
[07:54] <nseltzer> ok
[07:54] <basilio> wish is listed in the apt-cache im a newbie
[07:54] <Ademan> vesa is essentially a set of interrupts that are virtually guaranteed to be present in ANY video BIOS set
[07:54] <jmoncayo> cge, hey dude i have a porblem with the vnc4viewer, it gives me an error when trying to connect
[07:54] <Ademan> damn hes gone
[07:55] <Ademan> actually i think vesa is the name of the standards committee anyways...
[07:55] <jmoncayo> cge, can you help me?
[07:55] <Ademan> yep
[07:56] <orbin> basilio: gtkpod is in what's called the universe repository.  you might be more comfy in a gui environment:
[07:56] <orbin> ubotu: tell basilio about synaptic
[07:56] <Ademan> "Video Electronics Standards Association"
[07:56] <orbin> ubotu: tell basilio about repos
[07:56] <orbin> basilio: read those links ubotu sent you
[07:56] <mustard5> Ademan, an interesting bit of trivia :)
[07:56] <Ademan> hehe
[07:56] <pschulz01> exit
[07:57] <zengpu> exit
[07:57] <cge> jmoncayo: sorry
[07:57] <Ademan> at one point i was writing my own OS
[07:57] <cge> jmoncayo: I was in #wikipedia and didn't notice you
[07:57] <cge> jmoncayo: what is the error?
[07:57] <Ademan> then i found out that all the features that i thought were so awesome were in linux
[07:57] <Ademan> and i can't code better than torvalds and friends
[07:57] <jmoncayo> cge, can i send it to you in private message it is like 5 lines long i it will boder if i paste it here
[07:58] <cge> jmoncayo: #flood
[07:58] <jmoncayo> cge, oki there it goes
[07:58] <orbin> Ademan: write your own OS?  eep.
[07:58] <cge> orbin: everyone should try it!
[07:59] <orbin> cge: i'd probably blow up my computer :)
[07:59] <Ademan> orbin: hahah it was horrifficbut it was great cause it got me to study a lot of the theory
[07:59] <cge> orbin: I saw one recently that was written entirely in Haskell :)
[07:59] <firebird619> In Synaptic, what causes it to say, for example,  Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.6-6) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed?
[07:59] <Ademan> orbin: my awesome OS was just a bootsector that printed out its name by the time i figured out i wasnt gonna make the best OS since sliced bread
[07:59] <cge> jmoncayo: Hmmm... what are you trying to connect to?
[08:00] <orbin> Ademan: lol.  that's further than i'd ever get
[08:00] <jmoncayo> cge, i am trying to conect to realvnc enterprise edition
[08:00] <cge> Ademan: I need to try writing an OS.  I'm not sure then.
[08:00] <Ademan> assembly is too much for me
[08:00] <Ademan> well
[08:00] <Ademan> its not bad
[08:00] <Ademan> but i originally "knew" (and i mean "used for a month or two") MASM
[08:01] <Ademan> which has opposite syntax of tasm
[08:01] <pvd2006> is there a way to unrar .rar files in linux?
[08:01] <nseltzer> w00t
[08:01] <nseltzer> this is from x-chat
[08:01] <jmoncayo> cge, do you know any vnc server for windows?
[08:01] <Ademan> which i was told to use for assembling executables with no external dependancies
[08:01] <jmoncayo> cge, that you know it work with vncviewer or vnc4viewer?
[08:01] <Madpilot> pvd2006, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:01] <cge> jmoncayo: Yes, let me think
[08:01] <Ademan> and then someone suggested nasm, similar syntax to masm again
[08:01] <Ademan> yay
[08:02] <cge> jmoncayo: You could use tightvnc.
[08:02] <nseltzer> Could I get a good website to go to, that will tell me what I can do now :P
[08:02] <nseltzer> and how to do it.
[08:02] <nseltzer> Like installing applications and whatnot
[08:02] <specialbuddy> !lamp
[08:02] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:03] <orbin> ubotu: tell nseltzer about synaptic
[08:03] <Ademan> nseltzer: applications->Add Applications   shoudl have a lot of the basic programs you want
[08:03] <Ademan> System->Administration->Synaptic package manager should have the rest
[08:03] <jmoncayo> cge, where can i download it
[08:04] <Ademan> and if you ABSOLUTELY need to, you can get *.tar.gz and *.deb off the net and install them command line
[08:04] <cge> jmoncayo: tightvnc.org?
[08:05] <Ademan> anyone ever mucked around with hw_random?
[08:05] <cge> Ademan: In my experience, you probably won't get a response to such a technical question here.
[08:06] <WarOfAttrition> ok then how about: how do you create a debian package when compiling something?
[08:07] <Ademan> cge: dang, well all i know is its a module, and its an interface to a hardware random number generator, and not only that, but on intel boards, the hardware random number generator isnt present (laptop boards that is) and its impossible to detect if they're present or not
[08:08] <cge> Ademan: Bizarre
[08:08] <Introvert> Ademan: I disable mine in my kernel. Why do you need a hardware random number generator?
[08:08] <Ademan> cge: yep, so my only hope is to ensure linux doesnt try to load the module in the first place
[08:08] <orbin> ubotu: tell WarOfAttrition about checkinstall
[08:09] <cge> Ademan: I get no such device on my Dell D600 when trying to load it.
[08:09] <Ademan> Introvert: how? and i definitely don't think its necessary, i know for a fact there are software ones
[08:09] <nseltzer> hmm... how do I go about installing my wireless card on my computer? :P
[08:09] <Ademan> cge: laptop?
[08:09] <nseltzer> yes
[08:09] <Introvert> Ademan: I get the kernel source, and use menuconfig or edit .config ;/
[08:09] <Introvert> Then use GCC to compile it
[08:10] <cge> Ademan: yes, and Intel too.
[08:10] <Introvert> It probably shouldn't load it unless you modprobe it
[08:10] <orbin> ubotu: tell nseltzer about wireless
[08:10] <Ademan> Introvert: hehe, unfortunately i replaced my non-working ubuntu install with a non-working debian install and it couldnt detect my network card so it couldnt find a repository to install anything more than the core packages, so i dont even know if i have gcc
[08:11] <Introvert> GCC should be a core package in ANY system ;/
[08:11] <Introvert> gcc -v
[08:11] <orbin> build-essential is on the cd
[08:11] <Ademan> "-bash: gcc: command not found" hehe
[08:11] <Ademan> maybe i dont even have core packages
[08:12] <Ademan> all i know is i have bash
[08:12] <Ademan> and thats about it
[08:12] <Introvert> Ademan: I wasn't being literal.
[08:12] <Introvert> Ademan: I meant, if it's not in the core packages it should.
[08:12] <Ademan> oh haha
[08:12] <jmoncayo> cge, thanks buddy it work perfectly
[08:12] <Ademan> but i would expect it would be since you use it to build just about everything...
[08:12] <cge> Ademan: did you replace, or did you try to convert :)
[08:12] <cge> jmoncayo: You're quite welcome.
[08:12] <jmoncayo> cge, once i am done doing all i need how can i close the vnc session? just closing the window?
[08:12] <Ademan> cge: ubuntu-> debian? i formatted the partition first, so i replaced...
[08:13] <cge> jmoncayo: I believe so.
[08:13] <Introvert> Ademan: I warn you it's been a while since I've used a debian-based for personal use. I'm a bit of a FreeBSD/other source-based things person :/. I wouldn't worry about the random number generator.
[08:13] <cge> Ademan: Yes. I tried converting. Everything worked fine until I tried to reboot ...
[08:13] <jmoncayo> oki thanks again
[08:13] <Ademan> Introvert: i'm not worried, its just it brings down both ubuntu and debian at boot, the only way around it is booting into the bash console
[08:14] <medialdesign> hi everybody!  I got a question... i need some tools and i wanted to know if there is anything available
[08:14] <Introvert> Oh?.. Well then you'd probably want to grab a kernel source, compile it, stick it somewhere and configure GRUB/your bootloader to load it.
[08:14] <cge> medialdesign: Then please go ahead and ask.
[08:14] <Ademan> until i can figure out how to disable it permanently
[08:14] <cge> Ademan: blacklist
[08:15] <Ademan> cge: where is it?
[08:15] <Ademan> etc?
[08:15] <cge> Ademan: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[08:15] <medialdesign> I need to create my own configuration and I wanted to know if there is a 'quick' way (i know there is loadkeys, but maybe there is something easier ?) of creating our own key map
[08:15] <Ademan> cge: which reminds me, ubuntu used to hang on "initializing hotplug system"
[08:15] <Ademan> well the live cd
[08:15] <Ademan> and so did the knoppix live cd
[08:16] <Ademan> disabling pcmcia fixed that
[08:16] <cge> Ademan: It might be some weirdness with your system.
[08:16] <Ademan> cge: it seems to be a common laptop problem though
[08:16] <cge> Ademan: does your laptop not have pcmcia?
[08:17] <Ademan> it appears not
[08:17] <Ademan> lol
[08:17] <zcat[1] > might be a buggy chipset. file a bug!
[08:17] <cge> Ademan: Ah. That might explain the problem. I do have pcmcia in mine, and am in fact using it for my network right now, since my internal ethernet doesn't work.
[08:17] <Ademan> OMFG
[08:18] <Ademan> cge: thats why it cant detect my ethernet card
[08:18] <zcat[1] > if you don't have pcmcia, loading the drivers should do nothing.
[08:18] <cge> Ademan: Because you have a pcmcia network card?
[08:19] <Ademan> that would now make sense
[08:19] <fak3> whats up with the all the updates? just got prompted for like 62 updates!
[08:19] <Ademan> fak3: fresh instal?
[08:19] <SlicerDicer-> what is the 'mount /path/to/be/mounted /path/to/mountpoint -o' to allow for users to use it and have permissions?
[08:19] <zcat[1] > fak3: you think that's bad, I got prompted for about 1100
[08:19] <fak3> no but have not booted up for like 1-week
[08:19] <zcat[1] > 1425 upgraded, 183 newly installed, 57 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[08:19] <cge> SlicerDicer, err, it appears you have the arguments in the wrong order there.
[08:20] <zcat[1] > 1425 sorry..
[08:20] <SlicerDicer-> cge: how so?
[08:20] <zcat[1] > Need to get 1190MB of archives.
[08:20] <fak3> well that beats my numbers
[08:20] <SlicerDicer-> the damn thing mounts cge its just only accessable by root
[08:20] <iNiku> SlicerDicer-: mount /dev/device /mountpoint -o umask=000 if you want evryone to have read and write access
[08:20] <Ademan> so do you guys have any ideas for poor me? how do i still use pcmcia without killing my system? or more importantly have an ethernet card
[08:20] <cge> SlicerDicer: I've always used mount -o options mountdevice mountpoint
[08:20] <zcat[1] > my breezy box, running ubuntu + kubuntu + lots of other stuff.
[08:21] <cge> Ademan: have you looked on the wiki?
[08:21] <zcat[1] > soon it will be running dapper
[08:21] <Ademan> no, whats the wiki url?
[08:21] <SlicerDicer-> cge: mount -t davfs <server-url> <mountpoint> -o [options]
[08:21] <SlicerDicer-> cge: thats the format :)
[08:21] <iNiku> cge: cge I think i works both ways
[08:21] <cge> iNiku: that is quite possible.
[08:21] <zcat[1] > .. or not running at all, depending how the upgrade goes :)
[08:21] <SlicerDicer-> iNiku: the umask=000 is not working
[08:21] <cge> Ademan: wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <cge> Ademan: there should be a page about laptops
[08:22] <Ademan> cge: cool thanks
[08:22] <zcat[1] > geek meeting to go to.. catch you all later
[08:22] <cge> Ademan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[08:22] <Ademan> x-chat, can i make it so tab does <uname>: rather than <uname>, ?
[08:23] <Ademan> and also, how the heck do i quit out of edlin? i probably mauled my blacklist file too
[08:23] <cge> Ademan: I have no idea. edlin?
[08:23] <cge> Ademan: Is that like ed, the ONE TRUE EDITOR?
[08:23] <Ademan> ed Filename (its a text editor)
[08:23] <paradizelost> Ademan: you are still using edlin?  welcome to the 21st century
[08:24] <Flannel> Ademan: I believe the completion delimiter has a configuration dohickey in the menu.
[08:24] <Ademan> paradizelost: i dont even have gcc on this install... cut me a break...
[08:24] <cge> paradizelost: But ed is the ONE TRUE EDITOR. Use of any other editor leads to perdition.
[08:24] <cge> Ademan: isn't it just q?
[08:24] <paradizelost> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:24] <Ademan> cge: dammit
[08:24] <Chousuke> cge: ?
[08:24] <Ademan> lol
[08:24] <SlicerDicer-> iNiku: the problem is I can only access the mountpoint with sudo I cannot access it with user so its kind of a total pain in the ass heh
[08:24] <paradizelost> but what about vi?!
[08:24] <paradizelost> or EMACS?
[08:25] <firebird619> Ademan: in x-chat go to Settings, Preferences, Input Box, Nick Completion Suffix.
[08:25] <Ademan> whee... vi works
[08:25] <cge> Chousuke: yes?
[08:25] <SlicerDicer-> iNiku: so what I am trying to figure out is how to get davfs to mount so my user can have permission
[08:25] <paradizelost> how long till vim7 is in the repo's?
[08:25] <Chousuke> cge: you missed the joke.
[08:25] <cge> Chousuke: oh
[08:25] <Ademan> firebird619: whee, thanks
[08:25] <cge> Chousuke: but q works
[08:25] <whyami> how can I set user priveliges from the CLI?
[08:25] <cge> Chousuke: and besides, I've used H.
[08:25] <firebird619> np
[08:25] <Chousuke> heh
[08:26] <Chousuke> I just remember the all-friendly "?"
[08:26] <cge> whyami: Do you mean permissions for a file (chmod), or sudo access (visudo)?
[08:26] <dick-richardson> whyami: sudo chmod 000 - 777
[08:26] <paradizelost> !offtopic
[08:26] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:26] <whyami> sorry I meant for a user. I have added a user. Now I want to set what that user can do. I don't have the gui.
[08:27] <paradizelost> whyami: vigr - will edit the users
[08:27] <cge> Chousuke: Yes. It is a very efficient editor. It never bothers you with things you shouldn't care about, like what you just did wrong.
[08:27] <paradizelost> group settings
[08:27] <Chousuke> cge: yes. :P
[08:27] <dick-richardson> exactly, join them into which ever groups you want them to have...video, audio, etc.
[08:27] <paradizelost> or you could use PAM
[08:27] <paradizelost> :D
[08:27] <whyami> vigr uses the vi editor? I don't seem to have that installed. I don't know vi either. Can I change to another editor?
[08:28] <dick-richardson> you installed ubuntu w/o vi?
[08:28] <cge> whyami: set EDITOR to the edtior you want.
[08:28] <cge> whyami: like ed, for example.
[08:28] <cge> (don't actually do that, it is a joke!)
[08:28] <paradizelost> whyami: set it to gvim
[08:28] <dick-richardson> ;)
[08:28] <paradizelost> :D
[08:29] <dick-richardson> that'll work great :/
[08:29] <whyami> cool. That worked.
[08:29] <whyami> I did nano
[08:30] <Ademan> vi actually isnt so bad.... beats the crap out of edlin... course i just plain didnt get edlin...
[08:30] <paradizelost> PICO
[08:30] <cge> Ademan: ed is very hard to use, yes.
[08:30] <dick-richardson> !root
[08:30] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:30] <dick-richardson> sorry :(
[08:30] <Ademan> paradizelost: i didnt even have pico on my full installation of ubuntu... why would i have it on a crippled debian install?
[08:31] <Ademan> lol
[08:31] <cge> Ademan: I don't think anyone has pico due to license issues.
[08:31] <paradizelost> is that like PICA-chu
[08:32] <paradizelost> !tell paradizelost offtopic
[08:32] <WarOfAttrition> so root login is not the same as maintenance mode?
[08:32] <paradizelost> !tell dick-richardson offtopic
[08:32] <paradizelost> !tell dick-richardson root
[08:33] <paradizelost> !help tell
[08:33] <paradizelost> !tell dick-richardson about root
[08:33] <paradizelost> !tell dick-richardson about offtopic
[08:34] <Ademan> how can you see all possible file systems to mount? ie cd drives as wel
[08:34] <paradizelost> Ademan: gparted
[08:34] <dick-richardson> man mount...
[08:35] <dick-richardson> sorry, misunderstood
[08:35] <paradizelost> Ademan: gparted will tell you hard drives, but from there look in /dev
[08:35] <WarOfAttrition> no seriously, setting passwd in maintenance mode, that's the root password right?
[08:35] <Ademan> paradizelost: no i meant from bash, sorry
[08:36] <Ademan> i have a gparted livecd that i used to resize my ntfs partition
[08:36] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: why do you want to change the root password?
[08:36] <paradizelost> !tell WarOfAttrition about root
[08:36] <dick-richardson> sudo fdisk -l
[08:36] <WarOfAttrition> I just did it in maintenance mode since it seems like anyone can just log in there and screw up the computer
[08:36] <WarOfAttrition> I set a password for it
[08:37] <rusty> Hi all!  Are other people getting crashes and slowness in Evolution in Dapper flgiht 5?
[08:37] <paradizelost> but if i get to your grub, change the kernel line to say init=/bin/bash a set password won't make a lick of difference
[08:37] <WarOfAttrition> rusty: you should try flight 7
[08:37] <paradizelost> rusty: upgrade to flight 7
[08:37] <dick-richardson> unless grub is password protected
[08:37] <paradizelost> rusty: go to #ubuntu+1 it's the dapper room
[08:37] <rusty> paradizelost: thanks.
[08:38] <nalioth> rusty: do you upgrade when prompted?
[08:38] <Ademan> dick-richardson: nothing happened it seems
[08:38] <ecker> anyone running dapper drake in heres?
[08:38] <rusty> Thanks
[08:38] <dick-richardson> it's not going to show cdrom drives...i'm still looking
[08:39] <Ademan> ah, thanks a lot
[08:39] <pruebosolo> hi
[08:39] <nseltzer> i need that website for wireless again please
[08:39] <Ademan> it didnt show my hard drive either, but its mounted already... so i guess that could explain that
[08:39] <nalioth> ecker: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion (read the /topic) please
[08:40] <_harm> ecker iam
[08:40] <ecker> _harm do you run azureus?
[08:41] <paradizelost> !wireless
[08:41] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[08:41] <_harm> ecker yes
[08:41] <_harm> ecker wait not :P i used to
[08:41] <ecker> ahh i got me hopes up
[08:42] <_harm> ecker you can though :D
[08:42] <_harm> just sudo apt it
[08:42] <juajua> yeja
[08:43] <firebird619>  In Synaptic, what causes it to say, for example,  Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.6-6) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed?
[08:43] <ecker> i can't find it in any of my repos
[08:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ecker about azureus
[08:43] <paradizelost> firebird619: it depends on those packages to work...
[08:43] <dick-richardson> !azureus
[08:43] <nalioth> _harm: azureus is not in any ubuntu repos
[08:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dick-richardson about msg the bot
[08:44] <dick-richardson> I'm sorry :(
[08:44] <WarOfAttrition> paradizelost: that doesn't answer my question though, is the restore kernel password the same thing that is the root password/user?
[08:45] <firebird619> paradizelost: Yes, I know it means it depends on those packages, but why dies it say it depends on one version, but is going to install a different version.
[08:45] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: i would expect so...
[08:45] <firebird619> *does
[08:45] <WarOfAttrition> so then it's favorable to leave that mode open to any tampering?
[08:45] <ciruzzo> hi
[08:45] <paradizelost> firebird619: there may be a newer version available that something else requires.
[08:45] <ciruzzo> what is the amule credit file name?
[08:46] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: then i'd recommend password protecting grub or lilo
[08:47] <firebird619> paradizelost: How do I fix that so it doesn't say that, because when it gives those messages, I can't install the program I want, such as mythtv.
[08:47] <paradizelost> firebird619: talk to dick-richardson about that
[08:47] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: it should tell you how in your menu.lst
[08:47] <dick-richardson> firebird619: you have to have a preferences file under /etc/apt that makes the repository that contains the newer version take precedence
[08:48] <WarOfAttrition> what's so bad about the root password?
[08:48] <mike89> hello, I am trying to install a new soundcard into my system but i can't make it work. I used the guide on ubuntuguide.org when i first configured the system. How do I install this second sound card?
[08:48] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: what do you mean?
[08:48] <paradizelost> mike89: as a 2nd., or a replacement?
[08:48] <WarOfAttrition> why is it not recommended to have it?
[08:48] <paradizelost> can you do a cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp?
[08:48] <mike89> paradizelost, the other one is an onboard soundcard
[08:48] <mike89> you can't remove it
[08:48] <paradizelost> !tell WarOfAttrition about root
[08:48] <firebird619> dick-richardson: How do I do that? Do I create one myself or what?
[08:49] <mike89> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[08:49] <paradizelost> mike89: you using kde?
[08:49] <dick-richardson> firebird619: you may need to...
[08:49] <mike89> wait, thats cause xmms was playing but no sound
[08:49] <WarOfAttrition> I went there already, that doesn't answer my question though
[08:50] <mike89> when i did that command, it worked, but no sound
[08:50] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: it's going the way of assuming users are stupid.
[08:50] <firebird619> dick-richardson: Is there a url somewhere that explains how to create one, I wouldn't even know where to start.
[08:50] <WarOfAttrition> why isn't it fine just to not allow root to login graphically?
[08:50] <vladuz976> can someone help me with a DELL 19" LCD i can't find the horizontal and vertical sync rates http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?TabPage=techspecs&sku=19073YR&spagenum=&category_id=211&brandid=&k=&c=us&l=en&cs=19&mnf=694&prst=&prEnd=&mnfsku=&orderby=&searchtype=&pageb4search=&page=productlisting.aspx&instock=&refurbished=
[08:50] <paradizelost> !preferences
[08:50] <ubotu> paradizelost: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:50] <paradizelost> !flood
[08:50] <ubotu> [flood]  for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org or #flood here on freenode.
[08:51] <vladuz976> sorry i didn't expect the link to be that long
[08:51] <paradizelost> mike89: are your speakers plugged in and turned on
[08:51] <mike89> paradizelost, im not using kde
[08:51] <mike89> they are
[08:51] <WarOfAttrition> if they're that stupid, they're more likely to screw things up in mantenance mode which just starts up with no password
[08:51] <kaizoku> hello
[08:51] <kaizoku> how are you all?
[08:51] <ecker> what command is it to list broken packages?
[08:51] <mike89> kaizoku, frustrated :P
[08:52] <kaizoku> every time I try to compile source it says that my c compliler can't make binaries, I have gcc installed to the latest veriosn
[08:52] <kaizoku> *version
[08:52] <kaizoku> sory...
[08:52] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: in maintenance mode, it's text only, i'd expect they wouldn't know how to do anything....
[08:52] <kaizoku> *sorry
[08:52] <kaizoku> mike89-I know how you feel
[08:52] <nalioth> kaizoku: some source pkgs have wonky ./configure scripts and cause that error
[08:52] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: you see, my systems nave nopasswd set for sudo in the %admin group, and the root password is changed to my normal password...
[08:53] <mike89> paradizelost, if i choose the card I've just installed (in xmms alsa settings) it works fine. But not as a system/default mixing one
[08:53] <kaizoku> every package I've tried does it
[08:53] <vladuz976> how do I find the hori and vert sync rate of a monitor
[08:53] <paradizelost> mike89: you using breezy or dapper?
[08:53] <paradizelost> !tell vladuz976 about google
[08:53] <mike89> paradizelost, breezy
[08:54] <Seveas> kaizoku, you need more than gcc, install build-essential
[08:54] <kaizoku> ok, thanks
[08:54] <kaizoku> oh yeah, I can't get OpenGL to run either
[08:54] <Seveas> vladuz976, sudo ddcprobe
[08:55] <vladuz976> Seveas: i don't have it connected yet. it's for a new one. but i don't see it on the tech list of the monitor
[08:55] <kaizoku> I installed the nvidia-glx drivers from synaptic package manager, but it doesn't seem to do anything
[08:56] <dick-richardson> !tell dick-richardson about google
[08:57] <paradizelost> !google
[08:57] <ubotu> I heard google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[08:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell kaizoku about nvidia
[08:57] <Double_D> !gdesklets
[08:57] <ubotu> somebody said gdesklets was gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[08:59] <WarOfAttrition> ok, but the question is, to you advanced users, do you set a root password?
[08:59] <dick-richardson> I do, yes
[08:59] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: yes i do
[08:59] <paradizelost> WarOfAttrition: just because i want to use scp to copy files directly
[08:59] <dick-richardson> sudo su -
[08:59] <dick-richardson> passwd
[08:59] <bimberi> WarOfAttrition: nope
[09:00] <paradizelost> but, it seems to carry the same stigma as using automatix
[09:00] <paradizelost> !automatix
[09:00] <WarOfAttrition> because if you enable it, you can still use sudo right? and su asks for root pasword not your user?
[09:00] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelost
[09:03] <intelikey> anything happenin' in here t'day ?
[09:03] <paradizelost> intelikey: a lot of !'ing
[09:04] <jesuagud> need help for apache2 server
[09:04] <grte> Can anyone help me with a mutt/fetchmail/procmail problem?
[09:05] <intelikey> well i tried to build a hybird disk.   made a partition at the end of the disk and format it.  then mde2fs the disk.    it works but there are bugs i don't like.
[09:05] <paradizelost> grte: if it were gentoo, i'd say yes...
[09:05] <morphix> how do i set up SWAT, i have installed it using apt-get install, but it has no init.d script so i cant run it, any help??
[09:06] <grte> I don't think it'll be too bad.  I had it working, it's just stopped.
[09:07] <grte> Mutt says my mail spool is not a mailbox, which is weird, because it will recieve local mail, but not mail from gmail.
[09:08] <paradizelost> /leave badger badger badger see ya all later
[09:13] <intelikey> this is maybe as slow as i've ever seen it in here.   what is it the calmn before..... ?
[09:16] <dli> which sudo command to make sudo keep env-keep instead of env-reset?
[09:16] <intelikey> -i
[09:16] <intelikey> i think
[09:16] <intelikey> man sudo  knows
[09:17] <dli> intelikey, -i is --initial-login
[09:18] <brownie17> hey guys, can someone tell me how i can get an exucutable i have to run from a command at shell or whatever. i nkow you have to put it in like a folder called sh or something
[09:18] <intelikey> i can't even confirm that without instalind sudo...  tty23 [greg$~]  man sudo
[09:18] <intelikey> No manual entry for sudo
[09:18] <dli> intelikey, I want an easy access to X with sudo
[09:19] <intelikey> brownie17 no you prepend the sh command     'sh filename '
[09:19] <intelikey> dli startx  ?
[09:19] <dli> intelikey, no :(
[09:20] <brownie17> intelikey, ??  i mean how ican just type in firefox and it opens firefox, i wanna be able to do that with this program
[09:20] <intelikey> dli what are you asking ?
[09:20] <intelikey> brownie17 hehhe yeah.   just type in the command
[09:20] <dli> intelikey, sudo without changing DISPLAY= and Xauthority, or I have to reset them with a script
[09:21] <brownie17> intelikey, no you can't. it's not installed in the right folder for that to work. i wanna know what folder to put it in
[09:21] <intelikey> dli oh.  gksudo
[09:21] <intelikey> brownie17 where is it installed ?
[09:21] <brownie17> intelikey, it's just put in my home folder. straight extracted from a tgz
[09:22] <dli> intelikey, I think to set env for sudo is easier
[09:22] <intelikey> brownie17 then ./filename
[09:22] <rendo> I need some serious help here, can someone direct me to a link that offers assistance for viewing .wmv files in 5.10?  I've tried everything automatix, wiki.ubuntu.org and it sitll gives the additional plugsin required.
[09:22] <intelikey> dli ok.
[09:23] <brownie17> intelikey, sure i can do that, but i want to not have to. i wanna just be able to type from anywhere "realbasic" and it will open. like i can with firefox
[09:23] <intelikey> brownie17 then put it in /usr/local/bin
[09:24] <brownie17> intelikey, thanks. that's what i wanted to know. sorry if i'm not good at explaining
[09:24] <intelikey> brownie17 'sudo mv realbasic /usr/local/bin '
[09:24] <dli> intelikey, quite silly way, but it works, I'm making a liveusb based on gentoo, need to get a root term with sudo
[09:24] <Milos> hi
[09:25] <Milos> hi
[09:25] <Milos> sup
[09:25] <intelikey> Milos quiet in here....  aint it
[09:26] <Milos> yes
[09:26] <rendo> I need some serious help here, can someone direct me to a link that offers assistance for viewing .wmv files in 5.10?  I've tried everything automatix, wiki.ubuntu.org and it sitll gives the additional plugsin required.
[09:26] <Milos> sup
[09:26] <Milos> was up
[09:26] <Milos> ??
[09:27] <intelikey> !vlc
[09:27] <ubotu> [vlc]  a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[09:28] <WarOfAttrition> rendo: I think totem can play it, if you have w32codecs installed
[09:28] <WarOfAttrition> nay, I'm sure of it, just confirmed it
[09:28] <intelikey> rendo  no matter how good the opensource support gets for crap like .wmv  m$ will always put out something new that we cant see.   it's a sales gimmic.
[09:29] <WarOfAttrition> ah well if that's the case, you might as well forget it
[09:29] <rendo> I had it working fine the other day though and I shitted out my system and had to reinstall
[09:29] <WarOfAttrition> you can't fight ms on this
[09:29] <WarOfAttrition> only by not using their crappy media formats
[09:30] <intelikey> i can.   M$ doesn't live here any more...... :)
[09:30] <intelikey> yeah that
[09:30] <WarOfAttrition> yea but I mean, if you want to play those videos, you're better off looking for them in better formats
[09:31] <intelikey> ogg
[09:31] <WarOfAttrition> I still haven't ran into any "improved" wmv/wma format that I can't play though
[09:31] <WarOfAttrition> for video xvid
[09:32] <Kalopsya> Good morning everyone
[09:32] <intelikey> :)
[09:33] <Kalopsya> I don't know exactly what kind of issues are discussed on this channel
[09:33] <intelikey> the kind ubuntu users have
[09:33] <Kalopsya> therefore i don't know if i can ask some questions here [newbie ones :)}
[09:33] <jmoncayo> i know this is not a freebsd channel but can somebody tellme a vnc client for freebsd
[09:34] <intelikey> tightvnc ?
[09:34] <Kalopsya> I bought a new laptop and i've been looking forward to get ubuntu running in it :)
[09:35] <Kalopsya> Although i read some info on the internet about it i don't know if it will run smoothlly on my brand new HP Pavillion ZD8000
[09:35] <rendo> I hate this shit :@
[09:35] <Kalopsya> Is there anyone with practical experience of intalling ubuntu 5.10 on such a laptop?
[09:35] <WarOfAttrition> I recommend you get ubuntu 6.06 or wait till june for the final
[09:36] <Kalopsya> Where van i get 6.06 ?
[09:36] <dli> Kalopsya, google linux laptop
[09:36] <jmoncayo> intelikey, with that one can i ssh in freebsd an the vnc to my windows box?
[09:36] <dli> Kalopsya, what kinds of hardware?
[09:36] <dli> Kalopsya, generally, hp is friendly with linux
[09:37] <intelikey> jmoncayo should be able to, if you know what you're doing
[09:37] <Kalopsya> I915G, ati x900, TSS Corp DVD-RW, Broadcomm WiFi
[09:37] <Kalopsya> I cant recall the type of sound card...
[09:37] <WarOfAttrition> you're still more likely to detect more things on the dapper drake betas
[09:37] <intelikey> !ati
[09:37] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:38] <Kalopsya> dli: Thank you
[09:38] <Babacom> goodmorning room ... i just updated a 'Dapper Drake' installation, and now the system hangs when starting in the 'hald' deamon. Sounds familiair? Any Suggestions?
[09:38] <Kalopsya> ubotu: Thank you
[09:38] <ubotu> Kalopsya: pas de quoi
[09:38] <Kalopsya> ubotu: Are you french?
[09:38] <ubotu> Kalopsya: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:38] <intelikey> !botsnack
[09:38] <ubotu> :)
[09:38] <dli> Kalopsya, ati is difficult, bcm-wifi just entered kernel, so should be supported
[09:38] <intelikey> !botsnack
[09:38] <imbrandon> Kalopsya: ubotu is a bot ;)
[09:39] <intelikey> !ubotu
[09:39] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me.  Thanks anyway :)
[09:40] <Babacom> did anyone boot their Dapper Drake system after performing the second update this morning? (and got a 'hang' in hald?)
[09:40] <imbrandon> Babacom: i'm fully updated and everything is fine on MINE
[09:40] <Kalopsya> WarOfAttrition: Where can i get ubuntu 6.06 ? I browsed the website but i only see 5.10 there...
[09:40] <intelikey> i don't use hal so i didn't notice
[09:40] <topyli> Babacom: just booted a laptop ok. btw, dapper talk is in #ubuntu+1
[09:41] <Kalopsya> Another question: Why can't i run the 5.10 Live CD ?
[09:41] <WarOfAttrition> Kalopsya: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[09:41] <imbrandon> [02:39]  <WarOfAttrition> kalopsya: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[09:41] <imbrandon> [02:39]  <WarOfAttrition> just remember they're betas
[09:41] <thoreauputic> woohoo! ADSL2+ !
[09:41] <imbrandon> thats 6.06
[09:41] <Kalopsya> I run it it shows some dangling b/w spots and it goes pitch dark
[09:42] <intelikey> Kalopsya burn it your self ?     and what does it do before it fails... ?
[09:42] <Kalopsya> and i can't make it move from there
[09:42] <fiendster> hello, i installed windows and obliterated grub, how do i get grub back via a liveCD? thanks
[09:42] <Kalopsya> intelikey: I burned it myself. right before it goes pitch dark it starts slowly fading the white and balck spots...
[09:43] <donvella> Anyone know a replacement for windows Google Earth?
[09:43] <simtec> irc://irc.ashnet.org/WarezX
[09:43] <thoreauputic> !tell fiendster about grub
[09:44] <thoreauputic> fiendster: there's a wiki on restoring grub :)
[09:44] <fiendster> thanks thoreauputic
[09:44] <intelikey> Kalopsya hmmm sounds like vesa issue   try with  vga=788   at boot time.... not sure that will help.
[09:44] <thoreauputic> fiendster: bo problem :)
[09:44] <thoreauputic> *no
[09:45] <Kalopsya> intelikey: Denke ya :)
[09:45] <deep> Hello there. :)
[09:45] <Kalopsya> intelikey: Just curio.... What does vga=788 stand for?
[09:45] <intelikey> de nada
[09:45] <deep> How can i change resolution for my konsole? [ CTRL - ALT - F<1-6> ]
[09:46] <Kalopsya> intelikey: are you portuguese?
[09:46] <intelikey> it's a setting for the frame buffer.   and no i'm not.
[09:46] <Kalopsya> so howcome do ou speak portuguese? Just curious :)
[09:46] <Kalopsya> Where are you from? If i may ask
[09:47] <intelikey> means  800x600x8bit   iirc
[09:47] <intelikey> Kalopsya are you german ?
[09:47] <deep> ...?
[09:47] <deep> Haha :p
[09:47] <fiendster> thoreauputic, would that apply to debian too? the ubuntu-grub tute? thanks
[09:47] <deep> Cant i change it then ?
[09:47] <deep> or?
[09:47] <deep> ^^
[09:47] <Kalopsya> No but i speak german though
[09:47] <thoreauputic> fiendster: I assume so - grub is grub :)
[09:47] <Kalopsya> ok ok ok i got the message
[09:48] <intelikey> there you have it.
[09:48] <fiendster> ok thanks my friend, you're the best
[09:48] <thoreauputic> fiendster: just a matter of installing grub to the MBR
[09:48] <Kalopsya> I just find it curious... POrtuguese is not a worldwide spoken language...
[09:48] <Kalopsya> Sorry. Didn't mean to sound intrusive
[09:49] <intelikey> hablos espanol Kalopsya ?
[09:49] <WarOfAttrition> spoken in 2 continents though
[09:49] <Kalopsya> Si, hablo.
[09:49] <Kalopsya> Y tu de anda podria ser espaol, si que tienes razn.
[09:49] <Kalopsya> *de nada
[09:50] <intelikey> no raised U.S.  english
[09:50] <Kalopsya> ok
[09:50] <Kalopsya> i will try both vga=788 and then 6.06
[09:50] <Kalopsya> thank you all
[09:50] <Kalopsya> see you in a while
[09:51] <Kalopsya> gotta go so i can restart :)
[09:51] <intelikey> just because i catch a few words, doesn't really mean i can speak it.
[09:51] <intelikey> luck with it.
[09:51] <Kalopsya> intelikey: You are right. Thank you for your help.
[09:52] <Kalopsya> Room: Thank you for your help. It's a shame i can't find such thing in my own country... You've been great.
[09:53] <WarOfAttrition> I can't find it here either, locally speaking to be honest
[09:53] <imbrandon> WarOfAttrition: and local is ?
[09:53] <WarOfAttrition> In fact the stores don't even sell red hat anymore
[09:53] <imbrandon> ewww redhat ;) thats probbly a good thing
[09:53] <WarOfAttrition> us of a
[09:54] <WarOfAttrition> well I mean no linux like comp usa used to have
[09:54] <imbrandon> bestbuy still has xandros and suse
[09:54] <imbrandon> and compusa carries a few flavors
[09:54] <WarOfAttrition> I couldn't find it in the best buy here either
[09:54] <WarOfAttrition> then again that was in January
[09:55] <imbrandon> xandros and suse is sold at most bestbuys and compusa's arround here, and one or two have linspire
[09:55] <WarOfAttrition> best buy, more like worst buy, no better deals than online if you can risk it
[09:55] <imbrandon> arround here == kansas city mo
[09:56] <imbrandon> WarOfAttrition: better to get cd's of (k)ubnutu from shipit and donate to ubnut if you want anyhow ;)
[09:56] <WarOfAttrition> exactly
[09:57] <intelikey> ubnut ?
[09:57] <imbrandon> typo ;)
[09:57] <imbrandon> just woke up
[09:57] <intelikey> yeah and a good one
[09:57] <intelikey>  u  b  nut
[09:57] <imbrandon> lol
[09:59] <rockdonus> hello
[09:59] <rockdonus> i see dot11WEPDefaultKey0= in the wlancfg-MYESSID file.
[09:59] <rockdonus> if iwconfig wlan0 key<PHONE_NUMBER> works normally, then do i set dot11WEPDefaultKey0=96:22:43:56:86?
[10:00] <axisme> just wondering, why dont you just use the network manager?
[10:00] <skon> when i re-install ubuntu, can i backup packages so as not to have to download the whole lot again?
[10:00] <rockdonus> im not on ubuntu right now, but i didnt want to bring that up because its something that i cant figure out on an ubuntu machine and a gentoo machine
[10:01] <intelikey> skon yes you can.
[10:01] <skon> great
[10:01] <rockdonus> do you know what i should be entering skon?
[10:01] <intelikey> i do that too
[10:01] <WarOfAttrition> ok take it easy, thanks for all the tips
[10:01] <arwate> hi
[10:01] <arwate> 've got a problem with the kubuntu 6.06 beta2 live cd
[10:01] <arwate> actually, I have two problems
[10:01] <AnAnt> how do I export my GPG public key in ascii format ?
[10:02] <arwate> 1st: the installer quits after the greeting screen. it shows the second screen, then quits without error message
[10:02] <skon> do i just backup up the archives and then move them back again?
[10:02] <azathoth> i get a pci mem allocation error on bootup in flight 7 dapper... its stopped my network card working... it was working fine in the kubuntu beta 2 live cd version tho... anyone know whats causing pci mem alloc failures?
[10:02] <arwate>  2nd: i can't write files to my hd. it is mounted, root has all rights and can create directories and touch files.but i can't write to them.
[10:02] <arwate> any thoughts?
[10:04] <intelikey> skon i save all that comes into /var/cache/apt/archives/   and when installing just copy them all there  and go.    but i install from cd.  if you are net installing there is also a dir in /var/lib/dpkg  i think... that you should save.   look for .deb files and save them all.
[10:05] <skon> intellikey: thanks for that
[10:05] <intelikey> skon find /var -name '*.deb'
[10:06] <skon> okay - thx
[10:07] <coldboot> When I install ant1.6.2-2ubuntu2, ant -version says it's ant 1.6.5. Anyone know what's up with the package?
[10:07] <intelikey> burn a cd, beets 34hour dl, any time....
[10:07] <Adross>  I have a few disks made with nero that weren't 'finalised'. Is there any way to read these in linux?
[10:08] <intelikey> Adross xcdroast comes to mind.
[10:08] <akmal> my computer sound not workin plz help me
[10:09] <Adross> intelikey: installing
[10:09] <intelikey> akmal cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:10] <akmal> beause i useing ubuntu
[10:10] <akmal> i donot have idia
[10:10] <hastesaver> !tell akmal about sound
[10:11] <hastesaver> akmal, did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:12] <rockdonus> does anyone know the answer to my question?
[10:12] <akmal> my sound doesnot working
[10:12] <akmal> yes
[10:12] <akmal> where are its cmd promt
[10:13] <nseltzer> I have a question about my Kernel for any brave soul :)
[10:13] <spacey> rockdonus: don't know but its probably in the manpage, you could give that a try
[10:14] <intelikey> akmal cmd prompt is found in a 'terminal' or 'console'              and sounding of speak.  err speaking of speak.  errr sounding of sound....   never mind i'll go fix my own sound issue....
[10:14] <cge> nseltzer: yes?
[10:14] <rockdonus> spacey: the reason im here is taht i read that i dont know lol
[10:15] <intelikey> nseltzer if you don't ask,  it won't be answered.
[10:16] <nseltzer> I'm trying to install my wireless card and I'm to the point where I need to add something to the kernal or modify it.
[10:16] <nseltzer> How would I go about doing that?
[10:16] <cge> nseltzer: You shouldn't need to. What card do you have?
[10:16] <hastesaver> Does anyone know how I can improve my bootup time?
[10:16] <cge> hastesaver: Disable services that you don't need, which would most likely include evms and lvm.
[10:16] <nseltzer> Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[10:17] <hastesaver> cge, oh, I don't need lvm? It takes a loong time; I thought it's necessary...
[10:17] <cge> hastesaver: Are you using it? It isn't used by default, you have to set up the partitions to use it in the install.
[10:18] <intelikey> nseltzer sounds like  'lsmod, rmmod, and modprobe' that you are asking about.    also   the file /etc/modules  is the place to put the name of the module you want automaticly inserted into the kernel at boot time.
[10:18] <hastesaver> cge, no, I don't think I'm using it. How do I disable the services?
[10:18] <intelikey> !wifi
[10:18] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:18] <intelikey> nseltzer been  there  ^
[10:19] <nseltzer> Thank you inteikey
[10:19] <nseltzer> At least I don't have to log off to try these anymore :P
[10:19] <nseltzer> And cge
[10:19] <cge> hastesaver: Do you know how to use the terminal?
[10:19] <hastesaver> cge, yes, pretty well
[10:20] <cge> hastesaver: I hate having to ask that. If I ask, the user knows very well, and if I don't ask, the user has no idea what I am talking about.
[10:20] <hastesaver> cge, lol :)
[10:21] <Man11> guys, i got 2 OS running in my PC(windows & Linux) Linux is my bootloader. i would like to delete my linux and let windows will be my remaining OS. how will i configure my windows OS to be the Bootloader??
[10:21] <cge> hastesaver: You can use sudo update-rc.d -f NAME_OF_SERVICE remove, where NAME_OF_SERVICE is the name of the service in /etc/init.d/ that you want to disable.
[10:22] <hastesaver> cge, the "service" is just the name of the file in /etc/init.d ?
[10:22] <cge> hastesaver: yes
[10:22] <intelikey> Man11 boot the recovery cd of windows and there is a tool to fixmbr    i don't know the specifics.  i don't do windows
[10:23] <nseltzer> Does Ubuntu have the makefile ability
[10:23] <nseltzer> or the make command?
[10:23] <cge> hastesaver: There are quite a few that can be disabled besides those two. If you don't use bluetooth bluez-utils can be disabled, and the same with HP printers and hplip, pcmcia* and pcmcia, etc.
[10:23] <kalopsya> Hello again
[10:23] <intelikey> Man11 there is probably a wiki on it  at http:ubuntu.com
[10:23] <intelikey> errr //
[10:23] <ohzie> Hey
[10:23] <ohzie> !laptop
[10:23] <ubotu> [laptop]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[10:23] <kalopsya> I am now running Xchat from the live CD, in Ubuntu
[10:23] <Man11> intelikey: ok i'll try it.tnxs
[10:24] <azathoth> i'm getting a "PCI: Failed to allocate mem" error that is b0rking my network card... anyone know any solutions to these problems?
[10:24] <cge> nseltzer: Have you installed build-essential?
[10:24] <kalopsya> I guess i have a problem with the previously referred laptop. I tried to run the same live CD from my desktop and it is running as smoothly as the boy can be
[10:24] <hastesaver> cge, thanks. What about acpid and acpi-support? I'm not using a laptop, and IIRC, those are for batteries?
[10:25] <intelikey> azathoth looks like a driver issue.
[10:25] <nseltzer> Just finished
[10:25] <cge> hastesaver: You can probably disable them. It might make your power button no longer work properly, however.
[10:25] <nseltzer> I would like like to take a seconds to say how awesome you all are.
[10:26] <hastesaver> cge, for turning off, right? Not for *shudders* turning on?
[10:26] <kalopsya> intelikey: I guess the 788 setting didn't work... :(
[10:26] <ohzie> Can anybody give me a suggestion regarding getting my laptop's screen to shut off when I close it?
[10:26] <azathoth> intelikey: i get it before anything has booted up, it's on my bootup list
[10:26] <thoreauputic> nseltzer: yeah, we're pretty modest about it... *grin*
[10:26] <ohzie> Lattitude D800...
[10:26] <azathoth> most i can tell it was a kernel issue... but for some reason it doesn't appear when i use the kubuntu 6.06 beta 2 live cd, but the 6.06 flight 7 ubuntu build b0rks on it
[10:27] <intelikey> kalopsya hmmm yeah.   ;/     i still say it's  trying to use vesa and something is out of sync.....
[10:27] <intelikey> kalopsya you searched the wiki's ?
[10:27] <cge> hastesaver: Right. You look around in /proc/acpi to see if acpi is supported in your system. If it isn't, then disabling it is a good idea, but if it is, disabling can break some things like power saving modes, the soft off functions of the power button, cpu scaling, and cpu temperature measurement (for some cpu's).
[10:28] <bobslaede> so, Im changing my screens refreshrate, but it doesnt work, can anybody tell me how to do this?
[10:28] <kalopsya> intelikey: how can i solve this problem... Anything to help?
 intelikey: i get it before anything has booted up, it's on my  bootup list <---- what boot up list before anything has booted up ?
[10:28] <bobslaede> i tried the xorg.conf monitor section, horizsync and vertrefresh things
[10:28] <Madeye> guys, is there anyway to enable Auto login after X seconds idle on login screen in Gnome?
[10:28] <cge> Madeye: look in the GDM configuration.
[10:28] <bobslaede> Madeye: i believe you can do that in the gdm manager
[10:29] <cge> Madeye: System/Administration/Login Manager
[10:29] <azathoth> well i mean it's like the first thing that happens when the pc boots... after the kernel gets decompressed, it gives that error then continues to boot as normal
[10:29] <intelikey> kalopsya try the latest live cd  ?    idk what to tell ya.   live cd is "either it boots or it doesn't"
[10:30] <cge> kalopsya: Yes, getting a livecd to work when it doesn't do so out of the box is _very difficult_.
[10:31] <cge> kalopsya: unless it can be fixed by kernel options, like disabling things.
[10:31] <filubuntu> ciao
[10:31] <kalopsya> intelikey,, cge : Thank you. I will try the 6.02 DCD Thanks alot :)
[10:31] <intelikey> azathoth then it is a driver issue indeed.  the lack of a driver, might be more percise.    if you can get it working then build a new initramfs.img/initrd.img   it might work.......   i said might.
[10:31] <filubuntu> come faccio ad entrare in ubuntu.it?
[10:32] <prem> hi all, any seamonkey debs arround?
[10:32] <prem> i can only seamonkey 1.0 debs in contrib but not the latet 1.0.1 debs which was released couple of days back
[10:32] <intelikey> kalopsya any time
[10:32] <NeoCicak> hello.. i'm not sure if this is an error in my xwin configuration or ubuntu.. but i cant do xsession login anymore from remote machine running xwin to my ubuntu box after upgrading to dapper drake.. any idea guys?
[10:32] <intelikey> !it
[10:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:32] <kalopsya> filubuntu, sai parlare inglese?
[10:33] <filubuntu> scusa ma mi puoi dire come si  fa?
[10:33] <kalopsya> filubuntu, ma come si fa che?
[10:34] <Senilix> NeoCicak: reconfigure gdm: gksudo gdmsetup
[10:34] <filubuntu> a connettersi a ubuntu-it
[10:34] <kalopsya> filubuntu, io sonno uni newbie. non so come fare niente. niente di niente
[10:34] <NeoCicak> Senilix: the problem is that i dont have x11 running (not even in xwin)... doing over ssh...
[10:35] <NeoCicak> Senilix: correction.. X11 is running.. but i'm doing it over ssh
[10:35] <Senilix> NeoCicak: ssh -Y?
[10:35] <scheuri> hi all
[10:35] <NeoCicak> Senilix: -Y ????  i'm doing it using putty
[10:35] <Senilix> NeoCicak: ah, putty..
[10:35] <SaLo> putty
[10:36] <SaLo> :/
[10:36] <Senilix> NeoCicak: edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf by hand?
[10:36] <SaLo> use vnc
[10:36] <SaLo> ^^
[10:36] <NeoCicak> Senilix: what should i edit??
[10:36] <intelikey> tight
[10:36] <SaLo> meta
[10:37] <scheuri> not vnc, but freeNX
[10:38] <intelikey> anyone ever put a file system on an hdd and also a partition with a file system ?
[10:38] <Senilix> NeoCicak: try to read the file. it has a lot of comments. i have never editied it by hand my self :)
[10:39] <hollowlife1987> intelikey: what do you mean by that?
[10:39] <intelikey> hollowlife1987 just what i asked,   am i the only one that ever did that ?
[10:40] <hollowlife1987> im confused, did you put a filesystem on the whole hdd like a floppy disk?
[10:40] <intelikey> hollowlife1987 you do know that you can mkfs /dev/hda  and have a filesystem on the disk without any partition,  don't you ?
[10:41] <NeoCicak> hmm... this is weird... xdmcp is enabled.. but i cant see the login box... etc.... just totally grey cross-hatched screen
[10:41] <hollowlife1987> not really, im fairly new to *nix but i learn fast
[10:41] <intelikey> yes i put a file system on hd  but limit it to about half the size of the disk and then added a partition at the end of the fs.  and put an fs on the partition also.
[10:42] <hollowlife1987> interesting
[10:42] <nseltzer> how do I install drivers in *nix?
[10:42] <hollowlife1987> intelikey: any reasoning behind it?
[10:42] <intelikey> hollowlife1987 it is very buggy.   don't try it with anything you dont want to loose.
[10:43] <hollowlife1987> thx, i kind of assumed that, i know a little bit about hdd's and the mbr etc.
[10:43] <nseltzer> nvm, I got it
[10:43] <intelikey> yes.  trying to "push the envolope"   i guess.    but doing the things every one else does is boaring.
[10:44] <hollowlife1987> lol, if i come up with a spare box i might try that just for fun :)
[10:45] <intelikey> that's the reason i did    chmod 000000001 / -R && chmod 700 /home/user -R     so user could fix his home..... :)
[10:46] <fj2> hy all ! got a problem with firefox and ubuntu 5.10. when i try to start firefox it says: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No_such file or directory
[10:46] <fj2> can anyone hlep?
[10:46] <Overand> fj2: one sec
[10:46] <fj2> Overand: k
[10:47] <Overand> fj2: try sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
[10:47] <Overand> and maybe sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[10:48] <fj2> overand: already newest version.. :/
[10:48] <intelikey> fj2 if it's already installed....  find /lib -name 'libgtk-x11*'
[10:48] <intelikey> err maybe in /usr/
[10:49] <fj2> hmm . got that file in /usr/lib
[10:50] <fj2> i mean the file firefoy is requesting... :/
[10:51] <vladuz976> is there something like a command line dictionary for linux?
[10:51] <intelikey> then it's a path error you could link it to /lib     sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 /lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0      and see what happens.
[10:51] <intelikey> !cli
[10:51] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[10:52] <intelikey> vladuz976 like that ^
[10:52] <fj2> linked that file, but still same error
[10:52] <Overand> vladuz976: a great program is 'apropos'
[10:52] <Overand> if you type: apropos memory
[10:52] <Overand> it'll tell you the names of some programs related to 'memory'
[10:52] <Overand> etc
[10:53] <spikeb> try shooting firefox in the face
[10:53] <intelikey> fj2 malone
[10:53] <luke_> anyone here installed DenyHosts before?
[10:53] <vladuz976> Overand: no i meant a real dictinary that tells me the meaning of a word like "bellegrant"
[10:53] <fj2> *lol* spikeb also already tried... had to get a new monitor after that ;)
[10:53] <spikeb> fj2: hehehe
[10:53] <fj2> intelikely: malone ?!
[10:54] <deep> Ello ^^
[10:54] <intelikey> !malone
[10:54] <intelikey> !bug
[10:54] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[10:54] <spikeb> karl malone!
[10:55] <Overand> vladuz976: aahhhh
[10:55] <Overand> dunno
[10:55] <hurax> i have now something seriously borked
[10:56] <scheuri> hurax: that would be
[10:56] <scheuri> ?
[10:56] <hurax> removed the cable to my mp3 player when it was still mounted
[10:56] <spikeb> HEH
[10:56] <hurax> now i have several processes that cannot be killed even with -9
[10:56] <scheuri> hurax: such as? what processes?
[10:56] <hurax> tried umount -l but that didn't stop them
[10:56] <intelikey> reboot'll get'em
[10:56] <hurax> system load is now 12 and climbing
[10:56] <spikeb> i have a better suggestion
[10:57] <spikeb> reboot
[10:57] <intelikey> you know he could just cycle.
[10:57] <hurax> scheuri: one rm and some kdeinit stuff
[10:57] <intelikey> init 1
[10:57] <intelikey> then init 2
[10:58] <hurax> is there nothing i can do on a running system?
[10:58] <intelikey> cycle
[10:58] <luke_> DenyHosts could not obtain lock (pid: )
[10:58] <luke_> [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/var/lock/subsys/denyhosts'
[10:58] <luke_> any ideas?
[10:58] <cge> intelikey: the procs are uninterruptable and won't be killed by cycling to init 1, I believe.
[10:59] <cge> hurax: Have you tried just waiting?
[10:59] <intelikey> oomk
[10:59] <intelikey> :)
[10:59] <scheuri> hurax: is root trying to kill the processes?
[10:59] <hurax> yes, in fact i waited the night over
[11:00] <hurax> scheuri: tried both as user and root
[11:00] <intelikey> that'll fix it
[11:00] <scheuri> hurax: well, sorry then...guess reboot is easiest...or remount it and properly unmount it
[11:00] <hurax> ok thanks
[11:00] <cge> scheuri: I don't think it can be remounted in this case.
[11:01] <intelikey> try init 1 init 2   before you reboot
[11:01] <scheuri> cge: it was just a wild gues...instead of rebooting...a last try.....:)
[11:01] <fj2> hmm... got another problem.... my xorg doesnt seem to recognize my monitor correctly... i cant use a better resolution than 1024x768@60hz .... how can i fix that?
[11:01] <aftertaf> fj2: add the new resolution in your xorg.conf
[11:02] <scheuri> fj2: try to hunt down the EXACT info of your monitor, put them into xorg.conf and add new resolutions to it as well
[11:02] <fj2> the resolution is set in the screen section of xorg.conf
[11:02] <cge> This a really annoying problem - it can also happen with cupsys and /dev/usb/lp0 if you shut down cupsd in the wrong way, and in many other cases. I would think that there would be some way to kill the processes, but there isn't as far as I can tell.
[11:02] <deep> Any recommendation where i can begin learning the basics of c++?
[11:02] <scheuri> fj2: and check your driver
[11:02] <cge> deep: Are you already a competent programmer?
[11:03] <deep> Nah, i have been into PHP and such but never C++, java or anything like that. :)
[11:03] <fj2> driver is also installed correctly... the problem seems to be the monitor... and i dont understand the horizsync/vertrrefresh settings :/
[11:03] <intelikey> fj2 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and  when the monitor question comes up choose advanced option,  (not expert unless you know the vsync and hrefresh for your monitor..)   and set it up correctly.
[11:03] <deep> Thats why i wanted to go for the basics :)
[11:04] <cge> deep: Well, you could try learning python or ruby first. That might be a better idea.
[11:04] <fj2> intelikely: will i have to reinstall the graphics driver after that?
[11:04] <intelikey> fj2 if you know the rates.  just edit /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[11:04] <deep> Okay, then. Recommendation for someplace to learn Python? :)
[11:04] <aftertaf> Deep google :)
[11:04] <cge> deep: There is diveintopython included with Ubuntu.
[11:04] <cge> deep: In /usr/share/doc/diveintopython
[11:04] <deep> :O
[11:04] <deep> Nice ! :D
[11:04] <aftertaf> even better :)
[11:05] <deep> Ill check that out ^^
[11:05] <fj2> i dont know the rates.... and i dont know where to get them... its a monitor built in '95 ;)
[11:05] <intelikey> fj2 i can't really answer about the drivers.   i only have native drivers...
[11:05] <aftertaf> that can do more than 1062*768
[11:05] <hollowlife1987> deep: http://programmingebooks.tk
[11:05] <aftertaf> ?
[11:05] <hurax> forgot about the damned nvidia xserver
[11:05] <fj2> btw: xserver-xorg is not installed ;)
[11:05] <intelikey> fj2 http://monitorworld.com  search
[11:05] <hurax> which crashes everythoing when exiting it
[11:05] <deep> http://programmingebooks.tk
[11:05] <deep> http://programmingebooks.tk
[11:05] <deep> http://programmingebooks.tk
[11:05] <nseltzer> I cannot get my wifi driver to install
[11:05] <fj2> and jup this baby can make up to 1600x1200@75hz ;)
[11:06] <intelikey> xfree86 ?
[11:06] <deep> ;O
[11:06] <deep> Sry
[11:06] <fj2> nope i got xorg....
[11:06] <hollowlife1987> lol
[11:06] <aftertaf> install it then fj2 ... :)
[11:06] <fj2> but... erm... seems like that package istn installed *lol*
[11:06] <fj2> mom ;)
[11:06] <aftertaf> xorg-xserver
[11:06] <cge> deep: Python is very nice unless you are doing really low-level stuff or very intensive algorithms. It is very easy to learn, and has built in documentation. Personally, I prefer Haskell, but that certainly isn't something you want to try to learn first.
[11:06] <scheuri> xorg-xserver it is
 btw: xserver-xorg is not installed ;)  <--- you have xorg and that is not installed ?
[11:07] <deep> Thanq all, now going to get something yo eat
[11:07] <deep> Cya later :)
[11:07] <nseltzer> Why would I keep getting an error about being unable to find /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build?
[11:08] <aftertaf> nseltzer: depends on what youre doing ;)
[11:08] <fj2> shit... just a little typo... of course i got xserver-xorg installed ;)
[11:08] <scheuri> nseltzer: do you have linux-headers installed?
 xorg-xserver it is  <--- huh ?
[11:08] <nseltzer> scheuri, i'm quite useless on this particular subject.
[11:08] <scheuri> intelikey: I thought so, after fj2 said he cant find it...:)
[11:08] <nseltzer> i'm reading and i'l not coming up with much
[11:08] <aftertaf> intelikey: i got it backwards ;)
[11:09] <scheuri> nseltzer: well, type uname -r and tell me what you see
[11:09] <intelikey> are you guys pulling my nogo ?
[11:09] <aftertaf> !info xserver-xorg