[19:00] <inviz> Hello. I am failing to build my own lxc image with cloud-init (debian). And I cannot find a manual that explains how to. My cloud-init simply wont start when I create instances. anyone had any luck?
[19:03] <inviz> my only choice at the moment is to repack existing cloud images :(


[02:42] <SpoonieLu> i deleted/corrupted my GPT header using GPT fdisk, trying to create a hybrid GPT/MBR, is there a way i can scan the partitions and recreate the GPT header?
[02:44] <lynorian> I don't know
[03:50] <tomreyn> SpoonieLu: try "testdisk"
[03:57] <SpoonieLu> tomreyn: great idea i have a look thanks
[13:03] <Leon> hi
[13:03] <Leon> hi
[13:04] <kc2bez> o/ Leon
[13:04] <kc2bez> !ask | Leon
[13:06] <Leon> I have a loptop Fujitsu AMILO Pro V2030 with Lubuntu 18.04.3 running on it.
[13:06] <Leon> Wifi not working. Could you help please?
[13:06] <kc2bez> I can try.
[13:07] <Leon> please
[13:09] <kc2bez> Please open a terminal and type   lspci -nnk | pastebinit
[13:09] <kc2bez> It should give you a url that you can paste here in the chat
[13:12] <kc2bez> Although if you have no network at all that won't really work well.
[13:13] <kc2bez> Either way we need to know which wifi card your laptop has.
[13:13] <Leon> Failed to contact the server
[13:13] <Leon> Got internet connected
[13:14] <kc2bez> Ok if you run the  lspci -nnk  part it should return the results in the terminal
[13:14] <kc2bez> You could then use a different paste service
[13:14] <kc2bez> !paste
[13:19] <Leon> 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge [1106:0314]	Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge [1734:109b]	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-via00:00.1 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge [1106:1314]00:00.2 Host bridge [0600]:
[13:19] <Leon> VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge [1106:2314]00:00.3 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. PT890 Host Bridge [1106:3208]00:00.4 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge [1106:4314]00:00.7 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
[13:19] <Leon> [1106:7314]00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237/VX700 PCI Bridge [1106:b198]	Kernel modules: shpchp00:06.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02)	Subsystem: Gemtek Technology Co., Ltd BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN
[13:19] <Leon> Controller [17f9:0006]	Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge	Kernel modules: ssb00:0c.0 CardBus bridge [0607]: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/PCIxx11/PCIx515 PC Card Controller [104c:8031]	Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions PCIxx21/PCIxx11/PCIx515 PC Card Controller [1734:109b]	Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus	Kernel modules: yenta_socket00:0c.2
[13:19] <Leon> FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller [104c:8032]	Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller [1734:109b]	Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci	Kernel modules: firewire_ohci00:0f.0 IDE interface [0101]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller
[13:19] <Leon> [1106:3149] (rev 80)	Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller [1734:109b]	Kernel driver in use: sata_via	Kernel modules: sata_via, pata_acpi00:0f.1 IDE interface [0101]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE [1106:0571] (rev 06)	Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions
[13:19] <Leon> VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE [1734:109b]	Kernel driver in use: pata_via	Kernel modules: pata_via, pata_acpi00:10.0 USB controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xx/62xx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 81)	Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions VT82xx/62xx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1734:109b]	Kernel driver in
[13:21] <kc2bez> The bot will squelch you if you try to paste the output directly.
[13:21] <kc2bez> I think I see what you have
[13:21] <kc2bez> !b43 | Leon
[13:23] <kc2bez> Leon: if you try following that wiki page ^ it should help.
[13:23] <Leon> will follow wiki and see
[13:23] <Leon> thank you
[13:24] <kc2bez> You are welcome! Good luck.
 Hi all
 How i can uninstall the QXL graphics driver?
[15:08] <sashapont> How i can uninstall the QXL graphics driver?


[15:18] <Cheesehead> Team reports through March are now up to date
[15:19] <Cheesehead> h00k: We really need to have an official meeting again soon!
[16:20] <twopoint718> I posted a new meetup for April 7. It is called "Let's Talk About Shells"
[16:21] <twopoint718> http://www.meetup.com/madlug/events/57860972/
[20:54] <h00k> Cheesehead: I concur
[21:01] <Cheesehead> Cool


[10:41] <phillw> AlanBell: please meet krismaguire the TL of lubuntu comms team
[10:41] <AlanBell> hi krismaguire
[10:42] <krismaguire> Good morning AlanBell :)
[10:42] <phillw> to repeat what was very briefly discussed:
[10:42] <phillw> (11:28:53) phillw: I had some one challenge another team leader to being sexist / bigoted/ etc.... all the stuff against CoC. That was dealt with us, without invoking the CC (although I did seek advice)
[10:42] <phillw> (11:29:33) phillw: you will most likely have some questions at this point?
[10:42] <phillw> (11:31:37) phillw: Linda had her mod / admin privs removed. And just to be sure, we also removed them from the Ali, the male of the species.
[10:42] <phillw> (11:32:19) AlanBell: ok, well I don't know the background to this obviously, but fine
[10:42] <phillw> (11:32:45) phillw: This was done by the team leader of that group, I've known Ali too long and it is not my team for to be the boss of.
[10:42] <phillw> (11:35:04) phillw: The team leader of comms (lubuntu) was then blocked, as she was still registered admin / mod. I then had a frantic time removing her...... But... that was in the past..... 3 days ago, the sun has risen each day and I thought things were ok.
[10:43] <phillw> krismaguire: would you add anything to that (not the current issue) so that AlanBell can get up to speed?
[10:44] <krismaguire> She's an angry, condescending woman.
[10:45] <krismaguire> She doesn't like that I'm a TL and I'm younger than her, she hasn't said it but that's the way it comes across. I tried to be as fair as possible as neither at definitive, concrete evidence by removing both of them.
[10:46] <AlanBell> setting all that aside for a second, what has actually happened here?
[10:46] <phillw> AlanBell: Two things I will not tollerate
[10:46] <krismaguire> Drama, accusations, it's like an episode of Eastenders.
[10:47] <phillw> 1) stating that some one who has sighned the CoC may be randomly accused of breaking it
[10:48] <phillw> 2) stating some one else has done so.
[10:49] <phillw> with no proof, just pulling their name down. AlanBell I know the the CoC means a lot to you, as it does to the two people accused of breaking it. This is what makes me so annoyed.
[10:49] <AlanBell> hmm, so what is the thing that has happened, that I can do something about?
[10:51] <phillw> no, AlanBell the 2nd accusation is that "Phill Whiteside if you sent me all that spam, in the last half hour -- I am TRULY not impressed with you. Unlike yourself, I do not find it funny. Nor am I bored enough to want to start filtering my mail.
[10:52] <phillw> would actually be for you to assure the TL of comms that I am of good nature and long standing and would never send spam :)
[10:54] <AlanBell> well indeed, I am quite confident you didn't send a truckload of spam to anyone
[10:54] <AlanBell> I am a bit confused still, was this happening in the #lubuntu channel or something?
[10:55] <phillw> I know I wouldn't, he knows I wouldn't... but I do have now tremors of "hajor" who really created may-hem... I just do not want that to happen again, and we would really appreciate some advice on this one....
[10:55] <krismaguire> All of this has taken place across our various Facebook communities for users
[10:55] <phillw> AlanBell: http://pastebin.com/R5j50zBy
[10:55] <phillw> also on teams
[10:57] <AlanBell> that is a user resigning from some teams
[10:57] <phillw> AlanBell: shortly after this.... Linda Lubu Phill Whiteside if you sent me all that spam, in the last half hour -- I am TRULY not impressed with you. Unlike yourself, I do not find it funny. Nor am I bored enough to want to start filtering my mail.  As for sending spam messages, not only do I hate, I am pro-active in having a system, or two, that capture such people. Linda Lubu has made a serious accusation against me that could lead to 'oh, he sends spam' accusations. This, I will not permit. Linda, either provide facts or retract you accusation...
[10:58] <phillw> signed
[10:58] <phillw><EMAIL_ADDRESS>an hour ago · Like
[10:58] <phillw> AlanBell: which Is why I am here now....
[10:59] <phillw> the resignations appeared shortly after my posting
[11:00] <phillw> IRC is the nearest thing I can think to for social media, I do apologise AlanBell, but this time... I;m the one accused.
[11:02] <AlanBell> well that appears to me to be an unfortunate coincidence of timing between some kind of spam flood and whatever else was going on
[11:02] <phillw> krismaguire: I'll have to learn to post up in the correct order!
[11:04] <phillw> AlanBell: so some one happened to get hold of my account for one hour and send spam to one person? Get off it... even ubuntu forum didn't try that excuse.
[11:04] <AlanBell> huh, the spam was from your account?
[11:05] <AlanBell> or just random regular email spam?
[11:05] <phillw> AlanBell: I do see your point....
[11:05] <phillw> you're a good m,an!
[11:05] <phillw> man!
[11:06] <phillw> she did not actually say it had come from me
[11:07] <phillw> AlanBell: Thank you for your wise words, I hope that we have not taken too much time up out of your day
[11:07] <AlanBell> :)
[11:10] <AlanBell> so the point of the CoC is to make this a welcoming community for everyone, it is a shame to lose anyone to a disagreement
[14:58] <PabloRubianes> hi I am looking for someone from the IRC council
[14:59] <Unit193> AlanBell: Poooooke.
[15:06] <AlanBell> hi PabloRubianes
[15:07] <PabloRubianes> hi AlanBell I am looking to help CarlosNeyPastor
[15:07] <PabloRubianes> he become Ubuntu Member last week and want his IRC cloak
[15:08] <AlanBell> sure, he just has to pop in here some time and ask
[15:08] <PabloRubianes> AlanBell: the thing that that CarlosNeyPastor don't speak english
[15:09] <AlanBell> that is fine
[15:09] <PabloRubianes> he is here
[15:09] <AlanBell> CarlosNeyPastor: hi
[15:10] <CarlosNeyPastor> hola
[15:10] <AlanBell> :)
[15:10] <AlanBell> so you want a cloak, this appears to be your launchpad page https://launchpad.net/~carlosneypastor
[15:11] <CarlosNeyPastor> yes
[15:11] <AlanBell> and that all looks fine, staff can we have an ubuntu/member/carlosneypastor cloak for CarlosNeyPastor please
[15:12] <CarlosNeyPastor> yes
[15:15] <PabloRubianes> AlanBell: should carlos do anything else?
[15:20] <AlanBell> no, that is all fine, please just hang about here for a while and the cloak will be done
[15:23] <PabloRubianes> thanks AlanBell
[15:24] <CarlosNeyPastor> thanks
[18:02]  * AlanBell wonders if there are any staff about
[18:03] <Unit193> Poke yano, 1 because it's fun, and 2, was online a minute ago.
[20:02] <jose> Pricey: ^
[20:03] <Pricey> AlanBell: Here.
[20:03] <Pricey> jose: What's up?
 and that all looks fine, staff can we have an ubuntu/member/carlosneypastor cloak for CarlosNeyPastor please
[20:05] <Pricey> AlanBell: That was applied.
[20:05] <Pricey> jose: Thanks!
[20:06] <jose> thanks to you :)
[20:26] <AlanBell> oh, thanks Pricey :)
[20:26] <Pricey> AlanBell: Feel free to ping me.
[22:12] <Pici> Pricey: poke
[22:14] <IdleOne> OMG an awesome talking muffin
[22:15] <Unit193> He's not said anything, thus not talking.
[22:15] <IdleOne> you are not listening close enough
[22:20] <Pricey> Pici: hey
[22:25] <IdleOne> hehe
[22:25] <IdleOne> you left an open invitation to pings :)
[22:26] <Pici> Pricey: I'm poking you for the ubuntu/member/carlosneypastor cloak
[22:27] <Pici> Pricey: er.. I guess I missed it?
[22:27] <Pici> twice
[22:27]  * Pici wanders off
[22:29] <Pricey> No problem :1


[17:40]  * ianorlin is so regreting not seeing corey's talk at scale
[18:16] <Corey> Ahoy.
[20:39] <ianorlin> why does it seems most jobs want you to be the kind of person that finds networking with other people more enjoyable that manaul backups?
[20:42] <DonkeyHotei> it's the nature of the industry
[20:43] <DonkeyHotei> it's run by assholes


[18:15] <RitterJack> Hello
[18:16] <RitterJack> Asac, i saw you are in charge of PPA nightly ?
[18:17] <RitterJack> i mean "Ubuntu Mozilla Daily Build Team" PPA
[18:23] <RitterJack> Anybody ?
[18:26] <RitterJack> Is there someone ?
[23:31] <deaddeb> Is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa the only ppa with a differently named firefox so I can have two firefoxes installed/updated easily?


[01:26] <calc> BenC: i noticed something a bit off with my laptop, may be common though, it works fine for resume in i386 but won't in amd64 when it tries to resume it looks like it almost comes back but the xserver doesn't come up and i can't get to different tty's, i see the resume kernel(?) messages though on the screen
[01:31] <crimsun> BenC: could we build the OSS/Free opl3{,sa{,2}} sound drivers?  Because libasound2-plugins (containing the OSS alsa-lib plugin) is in main, we can easily let users with that hardware use Ubuntu apps
[01:32] <crimsun> no one's stepping forward to fix snd-opl3sa2, so the sabdfl's "have sound work out of the box" may be resolved most easily in this manner
[01:33] <BenC> crimsun: ok, can you file a bug please?
[01:33] <BenC> calc: odd, haven't seen that before
[01:53] <calc> BenC: perhaps i'll let you look at it in London :)
[02:00] <BenC> calc: ok
[04:37] <xipietotec> hey, is there a known issue with suspend and hibernate with the low-latency-kernel?
[06:43] <bremenbeck> hiya... daft question that causes me a whole pile of grief
[06:43] <bremenbeck> I think I'm up to date with the patches and all.. and I know how to edit boot code
[06:43] <bremenbeck> root@harold:~# uname -a
[06:43] <bremenbeck> Linux harold 2.6.20-16-386 #2 Thu Jun 7 20:16:13 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:44] <bremenbeck> so then this gets in the boot...
[06:44] <bremenbeck> root@harold:~# grep -i default /boot/grub/menu.lst | egrep 'kernel|Ubun' | grep -v \# | head -1
[06:44] <bremenbeck> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.18-028test007 Default
[06:44] <bremenbeck> and not the  2.6.20-16-386
[06:45] <bremenbeck>   /boot/grub/menu.lst seems to always break
[06:46] <bremenbeck> I have to have missed something... but every time I apt-get update, the kernel comes up on that pesky 2.6.18-028test007
[06:46] <bremenbeck> no matter what I do
[06:51] <bremenbeck> I'll try and delete it *again*...  wish me luck
[01:29] <\sh> hmm...why is hugetablefs in feisties kernel not enabled
[01:29] <\sh> ?
[01:31] <\sh> it could be important, if ubuntu server wants to be a good java server platform :) (new feature of java6 largepages support)
[01:42] <\sh> #122800
[02:56] <kraut> moin
[03:04] <bje> good day!
[03:04] <bje> I'm trying to compile linux-kernel-di-i386
[03:05] <bje> But I get "missing module ide-core"
[03:05] <bje> when I do a "fakeroot debian/rules binary"
[03:05] <bje> any hints?
[03:33] <bje> cjwatson: you about?
[04:05] <cjwatson> bje: linux-kernel-di-i386 doesn't work with Ubuntu kernels; the Ubuntu kernels build the udebs themselves
[04:06] <cjwatson> (besides, even linux-kernel-di-i386 in upstream d-i svn was designed for 2.4 kernels; there's a -2.6 variant for 2.6 kernels; but you don't want that either on Ubuntu for the reason above)
[04:07] <bje> cjwatson: I build my kernel like this: 'fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version="-claranet" kernel_image kernel_headers', I do not get any udebs.  What am I doing wrong then?
[04:09] <bje> cjwatson: this is the actual problem I'm trying to solve: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2007-June/000493.html :)
[04:10] <cjwatson> bje: the udeb building is done by debian/rules, not make-kpkg
[04:10] <cjwatson> so you would need to use the Ubuntu kernel source with 'debian/rules build-images' or similar
[04:10] <cjwatson> (or whatever the rune is on dapper; but it won't involve make-kpkg)
[04:11] <cjwatson> 2.6.20 is going to be extremely hard to make work with dapper; IIRC there were incompatible changes affecting things like udev
[04:11] <kylem> right.
[04:13] <bje> cjwatson: suggestions then for making my RAID controller work with Dapper?
[04:13] <cjwatson> sorry, I am but a humble installer guy; if the kernel doesn't work I tend to punt to these guys
[04:13] <bje> Ah ok, cool. I'm in the right channel, though?
[04:14] <kylem> for the installer, you're kind of boned.
[04:15] <bje> So what exactly is the point of running a LTS then? :)
[04:15] <kylem> custom kernel for your hw + empty udebs is probably the easiest thing.
[04:15] <cjwatson> bje: the only reason we can manage to support dapper for 5 years is that we *aren't* trying to upgrade the kernel constantly ...
[04:16] <bje> I see.
[04:16] <cjwatson> so yes, support is sometimes confined to hardware where it worked at time of release
[04:16] <cjwatson> there has been some talk of possibly backporting a newer kernel to dapper in future
[04:16] <cjwatson> because obviously a number of people have this kind of issue
[04:16] <cjwatson> but that's not in place yet
[04:17] <cjwatson> bje: if you have to have 2.6.20 on dapper, it would probably be less painful to work via the live CD
[04:17] <cjwatson> that way you can experiment more easily with upgrading other components like udev, and you won't have to mess around with udebs
[04:17] <cjwatson> and yes, that would involve a process other than PXE boot / kickstart
[04:17] <cjwatson> (more like install once and clone the disk)
[04:26] <shawarma> kylem: We're getting more and more people in #ubuntu-server asking for backported drivers for various new raid controllers and that sort of thing.. What happened to the the 2.6.15-50.whatever kernel?
[04:27] <kylem> shawarma, i have Real Work(tm) to do...
[04:27] <kylem> that and it became clear after the first time i did it that it was a Really Really Bad Idea.
[04:28] <shawarma> kylem: Erm? Oh, I didn't know it was kind of a personal experiment. I thought it was a serious stab at trying to provide updated drivers.
[04:28] <kylem> it was the first time we'd ever done it.
[04:29] <shawarma> kylem: Right. Let me rephrase: I thought that it itself constituted "real work(tm)"..
[04:29] <shawarma> kylem: but no?
[04:29] <kylem> well, nobody has assigned it to me to do again, so...
[04:32] <kylem> besides, if we don't respin the installers, what's the point?
[04:32] <shawarma> None.
[04:32] <shawarma> I would expect new installer CD's, too.
[04:32] <shawarma> I'll take it up at the meeting today.
[04:34] <kylem> yes, well, you can do the backports then. :P
[04:34] <kylem> you learn quick.
[04:34] <zul> lol
[04:36] <shawarma> What's the idea going forward, then? The issue is only going to get worse. More frequent LTS's?
[04:36] <shawarma> That's going to cost us even more time.
[04:40] <kylem> not my place to say; i'm just relaying my experience.
[04:51] <BenC> shawarma: backporting drivers is tedious and usually not very helpful without CDs...unfortunate as well that we don't have driver-updates feature in dapper
[04:51] <BenC> shawarma: as cjwatson said, we are seriously considering a kernel backport to dapper, but it's very tedious as well
[04:51] <BenC> we have to look at what userspace backporting we'll also need to do
[04:52] <kylem> "lots"
[04:52] <kylem> i think even python updates end up in the dep chain unless we fork packages.
[04:53] <fabbione> never mind the installer bits to cope with the other user land changes
[04:53] <kylem> somehow hal needs the new python version...
[04:53] <fabbione> it's probably easier to take feisty and turn it LTS
[04:54] <shawarma> How does RedHat cope with this?
[04:54] <kylem> shawarma, uh, hundreds of engineers.
[04:54] <fabbione> with big $$$
[04:54] <fabbione> :)
[04:54] <shawarma> kylem: I see.
[04:55] <kylem> well, certainly more than 5.
[04:55] <zul> heh need more community people then ;)
[04:55] <kylem> heh. while i certainly value the community, i don't think we could convince them to work on something so tedious and menial.
[04:55] <zul> kylem: been there done that
[04:56] <kylem> especially not when all the fun is to be had on ubuntu+1
[04:56] <shawarma> kylem: Yeah. Ubuntu-3 is nowhere near as fun :)
[06:24] <Daviey> Can a ninja help me with a kernel bug?
[07:53] <bdmurray> kylem: ping
[07:54] <kylem> yo
[07:55] <bdmurray> Is it just me or is bug 121601 unrelated to the upstream bug?
[07:57] <kylem> dunno
[07:57] <kylem> looks unrelated at first glance
[08:01] <bdmurray> They don't seem to be the same ata driver do they?
[11:25] <xivulo1> mjg59, did you have a go at wubi by any chance?


[04:07] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[04:36] <transhumanist> anyone use the nala apt front end. I worry about trying it for lack of trust in the source
[17:03] <KBar> debian-installer's partman has this 'separate /home partition' option. Does Ubiquity provide something similar?
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> !home | KBar
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> dont think on -desktop KBar
[17:06] <KBar> lotuspsychje: do you mean Subiquity offers one but Ubiquity doesn't?
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> not sure, didnt test that KBar
[17:07] <ravage> there is always the option to create a manual layout. so its not a one-click option but maybe a 5 click option
[17:07] <ravage> it requires a little knowledge of course. but its not that difficult
[17:07] <KBar> ravage: was never good with partioning thing, still think that a checkbox a la partman would be so good to have.
[17:09] <ravage> ZFS creates home as a seperate fileystem for you :)
[17:09] <ravage> (to be exact USERDATA)
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> https://www.linuxtechi.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Separate-Partitions-Debian9-Installation.jpg
[17:11] <ravage> but that installer is gone :(
[17:12] <KBar> lotuspsychje: yep, that's the option I'd like to see Ubiquity borrow!
[17:12] <KBar> Just one click away, as ravage said
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> i only found bug #1860218
[20:34] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue745 now available: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue745 :D
[21:20] <luis220413> Several Ubuntu repositories (security.ubuntu.com and ddebs.ubuntu.com) do not provide HTTPS. This is a severe information disclosure vulnerability.
[21:20] <leftyfb> !bug | luis220413
[21:20] <luis220413> The keyring and GPG signatures provide authentication of repository files but I believe HTTPS is still needed to provide encryption of sensitive data (specifically, Ubuntu version, package names and versions, that are major assets for attackers).
[21:29] <sarnold> luis220413: you can subscribe to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1464064 if you want to track the progress of the feature; probably this will be changed if we ever roll it out
[21:29] <luis220413> leftyfb: ^
[21:31] <luis220413> sarnold: Thanks!


[06:34] <Bacta> Enjoying the Rugby?
[07:01] <Bacta> Sup dawg
[07:01] <moose-machine>  hi. can anyone help me regarding tethering for my iphone 4 with ubuntu via bluetooth? it was working fine. but has stopped working all of a sudden.
[07:02] <Bacta> Is your connection still active?
[07:02] <moose-machine> it connects well in windows 7
[07:02] <moose-machine> and via wi-fi on ubuntu
[07:03] <Bacta> hmmmm
[07:03] <Bacta> Don't know sorry
[07:03] <moose-machine> no worries :) thx
[19:33] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:47] <ajmitch> morning
[20:18] <snail> ibeardslee: thanks for the lift btw
[20:19] <ibeardslee> np
[20:28] <snail> hope you didn't get caught in the hail shower this morning?
[20:29] <ibeardslee> yeah I did .. but I was in the car.


[20:48] <princej88> any idea how i can get in touch with him if i want to help update the website?
[20:49] <princej88> @ fignew
[20:58] <fignew> hmm
[21:00] <fignew> his email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>should work
[21:00] <fignew> I'm not sure if he's still in charge
[21:01] <fignew> I've been woefully absent from the ga loco for a while
[21:07] <princej88> okay thanks
[21:07] <princej88> i'll try to get in touch with him there
[21:13] <princej88> so how long have you been an ubuntu user for?
[21:14] <princej88> im currently trying out natty
[21:45] <Matir> @princej88 I'm currently handling organization for the LoCo -- if you're interested in helping out, drop me an email at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:06] <princej88> @Matir will do. thanks.


[15:09] <dsf> Hi there.
[15:10] <dsf> Sorry for the question but I really would like to know if the work 'Miyosui' exists in japanese? Can you tell me if it exists?
[15:11] <dsf> s/work 'Miyosui'/word 'Miyosui'/
[15:12] <dsf> or maybe 'Miosui' or 'Myosui'?
[15:16] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello! No, I haven't heard of the name... If yes, I don't know...
[15:18] <dsf> In the internet I was able to find this name in a scientific magazine: Norio MIYOSUI. http://www.journalarchive.jst.go.jp/english//jnltoc_en.php?cdjournal=jos1956&cdvol=38&noissue=10
[15:31] <dsf>  Hi there. I was wondering if the word 'Miyosui' exists in japanese. I found this name: Norio Miyosui in a scientific paper and I would like to know the meaning of the name 'Miyosui'. Any one can help me on this?
[16:40] <Emmanuel_Chanel> dsk: Isn't Miyosui a surname?
[16:41] <Emmanuel_Chanel> It's too rare for me to spell in Kanji. Probably, so for the most people, too.
[16:55] <dsf> Emmanuel_Chanel, I was able to find: Mi-ya-sui -> See - and - Easy. Which probably would give: 'Miyasui' - > The one that sees easily.
[16:59] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Google found only one that you referred. It asks me if it's Miyoshi.
[17:03] <dsf> Emmanuel_Chanel, Exactly. It can be. But what do you think about the name 'Miyasui' as a surname. In the web there are a lot of references related to this name. Do you know if the japanese use this name as a surname?
[17:04] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I don't really know. It can be...
[19:48] <yn_beta> hoge
[20:13] <yn_beta> ??


[00:29] <lomindo> What's the URL for KU 20.04 download?
[00:30] <kryten> What state of unreleased would you like to have then?
[00:32] <lomindo> kryten: Just found this URL:   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/20.04/beta/
[00:32] <lomindo> kryten: that the best to use to check out 2004?
[00:32] <kryten> !daily
[00:34] <lomindo> is Daily much better than at the beta link?
[00:35] <kryten> Yeah ok, while the Beta has been tested thoroughly at the time, it's already a few weeks behind by now - so I'd personally go with the Daily.
[00:37] <lomindo> kryten: I prefer more tested, than bleeding edge - much improvement with the daily?
[00:39] <kryten> In this case "bleeding edge" is actually "more close to release stability" though.
 Kind like a nursery but in English...
[01:40] <Mike_flyby> hola
[01:51] <andre144k> hello all
[01:52] <andre144k> im trying kubuntu 20.04 - and i dont find option to configure dolphin to open folders via single-click instead of double-click
[01:53] <andre144k> maybe someone have a rocketscience tipp for me? :)
[01:54] <andre144k> another question - how to open in ksysguard addons i downloaded ?
[03:01] <user|51799> Hi guys. I just installed the kubuntu 20.04 beta. Loving it so far, but sound doesn't work from my headphones. Works fine from internal laptop speaker. Any ideas? Thanks
[03:09] <user|51799> anyone?
[04:57] <stateofmetal> Anyone having issues doing full screen 19.10 in Virtualbox?
[09:04] <Guest34162> Hi. I would like to ask a question. I found some problems related to Kubuntu 19.10. How can I inform somebody to solve these problems? Sorry for the stupid question but i am new
[09:07] <diogenes_> !ask
[09:09] <Guest34162> Thanks
[10:04] <artur> hi
[10:05] <artur> in cantata I have error MPD  Not seekable
[10:06] <artur> do you know how to fix it?
[10:13] <artur> thats will be seetings colection i fix it but steel do not know what it is about
[10:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
 Hola, soy nuevo en linux y quiero ir haciendo cosas, alguien me puede orientar en como hay que hacer para poder unir por red un mac y un PC con Ubuntu
[10:59] <viewer|74> Hola, soy nuevo en linux y quiero ir haciendo cosas, alguien me puede orientar en como hay que hacer para poder unir por red un mac y un PC con Ubuntu
[11:03] <BluesKaj> !es | viewer|74
 muchas gracias por la información sobre el idioma, sobre el viewer ya lo tengo instalado pero resulta muy lento el traspaso de datos, queria algo directo.
[11:05] <BluesKaj> !es | Enrique
[11:15] <BluesKaj> @Enrique ^
[14:32] <oerheks> dirtycajunrice, fix your connection please
[14:45] <Guest41740> Hi everybody. I have installed Kubuntu 18.04 recently on my htpc but I have been struglying with the size of the fonts in the login screen, they are just too tiny. I have been searching for a solution to this issue in google but no explanation seem to apply to this case. Can anybody guide me?
[14:46] <eric1908> hello
[14:46] <Guest41740> Hi!
[14:47] <eric1908> i have a question about subtitles
[14:47] <eric1908> can you help me?
[14:48] <Guest41740> Probably no. I just log in in this chat looking for an answer with the log in screen in kubuntu but nobady seems to answer.
[14:48] <Guest41740> :-(
[14:49] <eric1908> tell me
[14:49] <eric1908> maybe help you
[14:49] <Guest41740> I have installed Kubuntu 18.04 recently on my htpc but I have been struglying with the size of the fonts in the login screen, they are just too tiny. I have been searching for a solution to this issue in google but no explanation seem to apply to this case. Can anybody guide me?
[14:49] <eric1908> give me 2 minutes to check it
[14:53] <eric1908> Guest41740, Tested with a dual monitor. Works.
[14:53] <eric1908> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SDDM#DPI_settings 58
[14:53] <eric1908> edit /etc/sddm.conf
[14:53] <eric1908> [Wayland]
[14:53] <eric1908> EnableHiDPI=true
[14:53] <eric1908> [X11]
[15:00] <Guest41740> Yes, I read that post but the sddm.conf is not in that folder but in /etc/init/. Even when I open the file no line with "EnableHIDPI" appear.
[15:02] <eric1908> Guest41740, look the privet chat
[15:03] <Guest41740> I read in https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8733580 the exac same problem But the solution posted does not apply because there is no /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc file, In fact, there is no kde4 folder.
[15:03] <Guest41740> ok
 I have problems with my wifi extender on kubuntu 20.04
 Basically yesterday it was working 1/5 times but now I can't connect to it anymore
 It can't give me the IP
[16:02] <glat-agent> https://web.archive.org/web/20190819143515/wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Activation
[16:02] <glat-agent> Where to get it?
[16:03] <glat-agent> Is there Ubuntu package?
[16:05] <virtuald> chuckle
[17:19] <max1993> este canal funciona?
[17:22] <diogenes_> !es
[17:23] <max1993> gracias
 I solved my problem and assigned manually an ip to the pc
[17:47] <Guest38046> Frage: Kann man hier Wine install
[17:47] <diogenes_> !de
[18:52] <eric1908> i want same help with one script any one help me?
[18:52] <diego_> what you need eric ?
[19:23] <HoloIRCUser1> Hi again
[19:24] <HoloIRCUser1> My friend are you here?
[20:52] <Metamorphosis> Hi. Pop OS which is based on Ubuntu has a software called USB Flasher which is a very handy tool. How can I install it in Kubuntu as they both have the same base?
[21:04] <oerheks> Kubuntu comes with usb-creator-kde
[21:05] <oerheks> ?


[00:16] <cw_the_developer> What's up y'all
[00:17] <cw_the_developer> what do I need to do to install this theme I got for HexChat and for Ubuntu Budgie...
[02:28] <hmac> Howdy folks! Just installed Ubuntu Budgie for the first time today and I'm having a unique issue:
[02:28] <hmac> My bus-powered USB Sound Card is randomly disconnecting and reconnecting.
[02:29] <hmac> It's a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2. Never had any issues with it on other flavors of Ubuntu
[02:29] <hmac> And here's the weirdest thing: if I have the Sound Settings open in the control panel, it stays connected.
[02:30] <hmac> Any ideas?
[02:30] <hmac> I mean, besides keeping the Sound Settings open 24/7. lol


[12:17] <jrib> hi
[12:17] <BMT> hi
[12:17] <jrib> are you using GNOME?
[12:17] <BMT> yes
[12:18] <BMT> i used gconf-editor in  a terminal....
[12:18] <BMT> i went to apps/nautilus/desktop
[12:18] <BMT> was this correct ?
[12:19] <jrib> yes
[12:19] <jrib> and then "home_icon_visible" should be checked
[12:19] <BMT> i checked the values that i wanted
[12:19] <BMT> and home_icon_visible is chedked
[12:19] <BMT> checked
[12:19] <BMT> now what ?
[12:20] <jrib> do you have any icons on your desktop?
[12:20] <BMT> no
[12:20] <jrib> ok, is the gconf key /apps/nautilus/show_desktop checked?
[12:21] <jrib> oops
[12:21] <jrib> ok, is the gconf key /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop checked?
[12:21] <BMT> yes
[12:22] <jrib> hmm
[12:23] <jrib> do you have any items in your Desktop directory?
[12:23] <BMT> where is the desktop directory
[12:23] <jrib> ~/Desktop
[12:24] <BMT> yes i do
[12:24] <BMT> have a lot of stuff
[12:24] <jrib> but nothing shows up on your actual desktop, correct?
[12:25] <jrib> on your wallpaper
[12:25] <BMT> just the home directory icon doesn't show
[12:25] <jrib> ah
[12:25] <jrib> are you sure it is not behind another icon?
[12:25] <jrib> that sometimes happens
[12:26] <BMT> i just verified that
[12:26] <BMT> it is not hidden behind another icon
[12:26] <BMT> the crazy part is that it has always been there...i just noticied today not being there
[12:27] <jrib> ok, close gconf-editor
[12:28] <BMT> ok
[12:28] <BMT> closed
[12:28] <jrib> what does this now return: gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/desktop/home_icon_visible
[12:29] <BMT> false
[12:30] <jrib> ok, do this: gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/nautilus/desktop/home_icon_visible true
[12:31] <BMT> there it goes
[12:31] <BMT> my icon came back
[12:32] <BMT> what did you do here with
[12:32] <jrib> k, great
[12:32] <BMT> that last statement
[12:32] <jrib> it's the same as putting a checkmark next to /apps/nautilus/desktop/home_icon_visible
[12:32] <jrib> don't know why gconf-editor didn't work
[12:32] <BMT> wow that is amazing to have that much control of the OS like that
[12:33] <BMT> i really need that because i am always looking at my home folder stuff...so having the icon really does help
[12:33] <BMT> now maybe you can help with my CD burning
[12:33] <jrib> I like my desktop to just be a nice picture with no icons, but to each his own
[12:34] <BMT> really
[12:34] <BMT>  ?
[12:34] <BMT> hmm...
[12:34] <BMT> so how would you get to your program and othere utilities
[12:34] <jrib> desktop is too hard to access imo, it's always covered with windows
[12:34] <BMT> this is true
[12:35] <BMT> you would have to minimize the windows to get to the icons
[12:35] <jrib> well to get to my home, I would go to Places -> Home in the menu or just use "home" in deskbar
[12:35] <BMT> deskbar ?
[12:35] <jrib> right click on your panel -> add to panel   deskbar
[12:36] <jrib> you could also just put a launcher for home as button next to your menu
[12:36] <BMT> this is great !
[12:37] <jrib> yeah, deskbar is very nice
[12:37] <jrib> and if you use it with Beagle or Tracker it's even nicer
[12:37] <BMT> man ! Beagle ?  Tracker ?  what is that ....lol
[12:38] <jrib> they index all your files
[12:38] <jrib> kind of like google desktop
[12:38] <jrib> !info beagle
[12:38] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 883 kB, installed size 3892 kB
[12:39] <jrib> !info tracker
[12:39] <ubotu> tracker: metadata database, indexer and search tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4-4 (feisty), package size 231 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[12:39] <BMT> i need to find that...sounds interesting
[12:39] <BMT> what is a software channel
[12:39] <jrib> hmm, what do you mean?
[12:39] <BMT> whenever i am trying to install something like a .deb file ...sometimes it tells me i have to go to a software channel
[12:40] <jrib> most stuff should be in the repositories, you shouldn't need to install too many .deb's, but I don't know what error that is.  Can you paste the exact error verbatim?
[12:40] <BMT> don't have it now...but can do that later....what are the repositories ?
[12:41] <jrib> uh oh, they are the best part of ubuntu!
[12:41] <BMT> i have heard the term before
[12:41] <jrib> BMT: when you install things from add/remove or synaptic (or some other APT frontend), it fetches the packages from the online repositories
[12:41] <BMT> i have used all .deb files to install any extra programs that didn't come witht he ubuntu initial install
[12:42] <jrib> do you know about using synaptic and add/remove?
[12:42] <BMT> i am looking at add/remove as we speak
[12:42] <BMT> what is synaptic
[12:42] <jrib> system -> administration -> synaptic
[12:43] <jrib> it's a little less new-user-friendly (read: more powerful) than add/remove
[12:43] <BMT> this is true
[12:43] <BMT> lol
[12:43] <BMT> but do add/remove and synaptic go hand and hand
[12:44] <BMT> what i can install using synaptic i can install using add/remove ?
[12:44] <jrib> yep, they use the same packages, they just present them to you in a different manner
[12:44] <jrib> if you want to keep a healthy ubuntu system, always try to get your software from the repositories.
[12:44] <BMT> ok
[12:45] <BMT> have ever found a mix online that you liked and wanted to burn to CD ?
[12:45] <jrib> nope, I don't really burn any music to CDs
[12:45] <BMT> oh ok....
[12:46] <BMT> i am having a time find a app that will cut up a mix into separate tracks when burning
[12:46] <BMT> nero 4 did not for me using Windows
[12:46] <BMT> but i am trying to completely move away from Windows
[12:46] <jrib> see if anyone in #ubuntu has a suggestion
[12:47] <BMT> i have tried that ...and all i got was to use audacity to cut up the mix myself and then burn
[12:48] <BMT> that will take too long i feel
[12:49] <BMT> i tried to us add/remove to install kb3..it told me that i could not install it because it conflicted with something already install....add/remove suggested i use synaptic to solve this program
[12:50] <BMT> how would i go about doing that
[12:50] <jrib> close add/remove and then open up system -> administration -> synaptic
[12:50] <BMT> i did that
[12:50] <jrib> now what happens when you try to install k3b?
[12:50] <BMT> but i don't see how synaptic will resolve my issue
[12:51] <BMT> how do i get to k3b on synaptic
[12:51] <BMT> i am looking at "multimedia' now and don't see k3b
[12:51] <BMT> is there a search on synaptic ?
[12:51] <jrib> there's a search field somewhere
[12:51] <BMT> i found it...
[12:52] <BMT> synaptic says that it installing k3b conflicts withe libflac++5 with i just installed this morning for audacity
[12:53] <BMT> i am going to do it anyway to see what happens
[12:53] <BMT> maybe it will install k3b and audacity will still work
[12:56] <BMT> i need to find the MAD mp3 decoding library as well as the k3b MAD mp3 decoder plugin
[12:57] <BMT> can i find these things in add/remove ?
[12:57] <jrib> probably
[12:57] <BMT> not in add/remove going to try synaptic
[10:41] <jrib> too much traffic sometimes
[10:41] <Atrocity2001> jrib: Thanks.
[10:41] <jrib> alright, plug in the usb key now while you are logged in as the problem user
[10:41] <Atrocity2001> It's actually a FireWire drive.
[10:41] <jrib> k
[10:42] <Atrocity2001> Let me unmount, then swap over...
[10:42] <jrib> k
[10:43] <Atrocity2001> Even unmounting is weird...it shows twice and I can only unmount one of them...OK, switching user now...
[10:46] <Atrocity2001> OK...unplugged, powered off the drive, plugged it back in and powered it on...now "jeff" can see it and, it appears, write to it.  I hope it persists!  I'd swear I tried this before...THANK YOU!
[10:46] <Atrocity2001> In fact, I'm going to log "jeff" off and log back on to see what happens.
[10:47] <jrib> k
[10:48] <Atrocity2001> Seems to still work, thanks so much!  Now on to getting Azureus to work under 7.04 and figuring out why Rhythmbox keeps locking up. :)
[10:49] <jrib> heh, I didn't do anything, but glad it's working :)
[10:50] <Atrocity2001> Still, I appreciate the time...thinking back, I'm sure I killed the power to the drive before but never physically disconnected the FireWire cable...not sure why I should have to, but whatever it takes.  Thanks again!


[07:10] <ALFX> hello everyone!
[07:18] <ALFX> I have a problem with Lubuntu 18.04 on a Dell Latitude E6400: when turned on the fan keeps on spinning at maximum speed (very noisy) and battery life is terrible (~1h), with 17.10 instead all was good and battery lasted ~5h. this happens with bot 32 and 64 bits versions. can anyone help me please?
[07:20] <ALFX> these are the specs for anyone willing to check
[07:20] <ALFX> https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-latitude-e6400-14-1-core-2-duo-p8700-vista-business-xp-pro-downgrade-2-gb-ram-160-gb-hdd-series/specs/


 I haven't yet used baz.
[12:26] <abelli> ChrisH: im happy to say you have been downgraded StablemanForTheKnowledge
[12:26] <abelli> ;)
[12:26] <sivang> abelli: yo
[12:26] <sivang> ChrisH: Hey
[12:26] <abelli> ..mmm sorry StablemanOfTheKnowledge
[12:26] <abelli> sivang: big ups
[12:26] <sivang> abelli: what?
[12:27] <sivang> abelli: I saw you called me in my backlog
[12:27] <abelli> so.. continue reading your backlog :)
[12:27] <abelli> can you  tell me if those howtos are enough howto.gnuarch.org/bazaar ?
[12:27] <sivang> abelli: err, couldn't you give me the short version?
[12:27] <abelli> can you  tell me if those howtos are enough howto.gnuarch.org/bazaar ?
[12:27] <sivang> I can take a look if you want, but not before tommorow
[12:28] <sivang> (trying to work out #2251)
[12:28] <sivang> and preview freeze is tommmorow
[12:30] <abelli> sivang: i can solve your problem
[12:30] <abelli> i did it yesterday on #ubuntu..
[12:30] <abelli> or at least we can try to
[12:30] <abelli>  /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[12:30] <abelli> line 456 or a little after
[12:30] <abelli> change listen to <IP_ADDRESS>:635
[12:31] <abelli> to Listen to <IP_ADDRESS>:635
[12:31] <abelli> then around line 764
[12:31] <abelli> ..well we'll do it togheter..
[12:31] <abelli> sivang: tell me when you're ready
[12:31] <ChrisH> sivang: Konnichiwa, sivang-san
[12:32] <sivang> ChrisH: hehe, now I am japaneeze?
[12:32] <sivang> :)
[12:32] <sivang> ChrisH: I did get a strange spam mail in chineese though..
[12:32] <abelli> sivang: mmm.. right seems that fabbione as already done it right?
[12:33] <sivang> sivang: you mean baz?
[12:33] <ChrisH> sivang: I get lots of strange mails with a faraway charset. :(
[12:33] <ChrisH> Gah... the whole family is in bed. I'm the only one not having fever.


[20:28] <qwebirc37767> hello, i need some help with my remote.  I have got further with it but still cant figure it out.  I now can use the four arrow keys on it and the ok button but none of the other buttons seem to do anything.
[20:28] <qwebirc37767> i see the light on the reciever light up when i press any of the other buttons but they dont seem to work in mythbuntu
[20:34] <qwebirc37767> i found one article about it that seems to be about my same remote but it is from 2011 and i am not sure i would mess something up if i followed the instructions they have there.  I think it is a older version of lirc he is mentioning
[20:34] <qwebirc37767> http://www.wentztech.com/radio/Linux/files/myth_remove.html
[20:36] <qwebirc37767> i am running mythbuntu 14.04
[21:29] <qwebirc37767> anyone have any ideas
[21:58] <qwebirc37767> anybody there?
[21:59] <gedakc> I just recently signed in.  What is your question?
[22:01] <qwebirc37767> i am trying to get my remote to work, the 4 arrow keys and enter work but not the rest.  i found a rticle online about someone else having the same issue with what looks might be the same remote but it is from 2011 and i believe is for a older version of mythbuntu and lirc
[22:01] <qwebirc37767> i wanted to know if these instruction would work or if i would damage something doing them
[22:02] <qwebirc37767> http://www.wentztech.com/radio/Linux/files/myth_remove.html
[22:03] <qwebirc37767> maybe i am going down a wrong path altogether.  i was getting excited after 3 weeks of fighting with it and googleing i am finally getting some response out of my remote
[22:03]  * gedakc reading the link...
[22:06] <gedakc> I'm using an MCE remote control.  To add a key so that Mythbuntu recognizes it you need to know the name of the key (button in lirc terms) and the action you want it to do.
[22:07] <gedakc> I posted a page on how I installed Mythbuntu and added new remote control button mappings.
[22:07] <gedakc> The page is at http://gedakc.users.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=pvr-install-mythbuntu#add-rc-mapping
[22:09] <qwebirc37767> i will check it out
[22:10] <gedakc> I think there is an lirc tool that you can run and it will display the name of the buttons as you press them on your remote control.  I don't recall the name of the utility at the moment.
[22:14] <gedakc> I think the command to determine the button codes is irw.
[22:14] <gedakc> http://linux.die.net/man/1/irw
[22:20] <qwebirc37767> i actually see my remote listed in the usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb with all of the keys predefined. Is there a way to get it to use that file?
[22:21] <qwebirc37767> When i do irw i get all the numbers keys respond, the 4 arrow keys and the ok button, none of the other keys do anything
[22:21] <qwebirc37767> i do see the light on the reciever blink for all of the buttons no matter if they show up in irw or not so it seems to be recieving it
[22:22] <qwebirc37767> i also see the under sys/clas/rc there is nothing under there and i think there is supposed to be
[22:22] <gedakc> For any customizations of key codes, I always edit the ~/.lirc/mythtv file.  It should already contains some remote codes.
[22:24] <qwebirc37767> i'm new to linux where do i find the ~/.lirc/mythtv file?  dont know what the ~ means
[22:25] <gedakc> The ~ symbol is shorthand for the home directory of your user account.  For example if your username is "pvr", the home directory should be "/home/pvr".
[22:26] <gedakc> The dot in front of a file name or directory makes it invisibile by default.  You can view all invisible entries by using the "-a" option on the "ls" command.  For example "ls -al .??*"
[22:27] <gedakc> There is a list of supported remote control files at:  http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/
[22:28] <gedakc> What is the name/brand of your remote control?
[22:30] <qwebirc37767> i have a SIIG vista mce remote and reciever
[22:32] <gedakc> An MCE remote control should work out-of-the-box with MythTV.  Did you select "Windows Media Center Transceivers/Remotes (all)" when you chose the Remote setting for Mythbuntu?
[22:33] <qwebirc37767> yep, i actually had a guy from this forum get on my mythbuntu box remotely to try and get it to work but at that time couldnt get any button to work
[22:34] <qwebirc37767> we went through the config and he said it should work, he just couldnt figure out why sys/class/rc had nothing in it
[22:34] <gedakc> If you run irw in a terminal, does it show a key code for buttons such as channel up or channel down?
[22:35] <qwebirc37767> no it doesnt
[22:36] <gedakc> That is strange, especially since you mentioned numbers and arrow keys on the remote do work.
[22:37] <qwebirc37767> i know the whole thing is strange.  the guy i had helping suggested reloading and trying a brand new download in case something got corrupted
[22:37] <qwebirc37767> i did that and still have the same issue.
[22:38] <qwebirc37767> if i am counting correctly i tyhink it is my  11 reinstall.  I did not keep anything when i reinstalled i erased everything from before
[22:39] <gedakc> If lirc is not displaying the key codes when you press buttons on the remote (when running irw), that suggests that the problem is with lirc.
[22:39] <qwebirc37767> is there a newer version out there or something maybe?
[22:40] <gedakc> From a quick google search for your remote, it looks like at least two people have got your remote control working.  Search for SIIG in the following link:
[22:40] <gedakc> https://github.com/OpenELEC/OpenELEC.tv/blob/master/packages/sysutils/remote/lirc/config/lircd.conf.rpi
[22:41] <gedakc> I think that the .rpi extension is for Raspberry Pi, but I think the remote file should work on PC's too.
[22:43] <qwebirc37767> i see it listed there but how do i get the system to let me use it.
[22:45] <gedakc> I think that is the file that should be at /usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb
[22:46] <gedakc> If you edit  /usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb, can you find the "siig" text string in it?
[22:48] <qwebirc37767> yep it is there
[22:51] <gedakc> If it's already there, then I'm not sure what to do next.  From a quick google search it appears that others have had difficulty setting up the SIIG Vista MCE remote, but there do appear to be some success stories.
[22:53] <gedakc> 'Sorry I wasn't of more help.
[22:55] <gedakc> Best wishes to you in getting the remote to work.  I'm off for the day now.
[22:55] <qwebirc37767> no problem, i have bought 3 different remotes so far that were supposed to "Work" with mythtv.  One came with my hauppauge card and that wont work because it is not the usb reciever but a wierd cable, the other two is what others in the forums recomended and neither of them work.
[22:56] <qwebirc37767> I'm getting close to the end of Mythbuntu.  I really like it but without a remote it is worthless.  I think i am going to have to go to windows media center
[22:57] <qwebirc37767> does anyone know how i can copy files to sys/class/rc folder.  it wont let me and mine is empty
[23:15] <Hydr0p0nX> qwebirc37767, remote controls work fine with myth
[23:17] <Hydr0p0nX> what kind of remote are you using ?
[23:23] <qwebirc37767> i have a siig vista mce remote.
[23:57] <Hydr0p0nX> matching receiver?
[23:58] <Hydr0p0nX> and does irw pick up any button presses ?


[16:33] <brobostigon> good afternoon everyone.
[21:01] <Welshy-Rob__>  Hello. i have tried to open a folder in my home dir and the file browser just closes, i have tried to cd into it but apparently there is no such file, but it shows up when i ls -a ? can anyone help?


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[02:45] <balloon> Hello. Is there the person seeing it now?
[03:39] <holstein> balloon: seeing what?
[03:41] <balloon> Thank for a reply.
[03:41] <balloon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-next/+bug/1437875
[03:41] <holstein> lost by live boot?
[03:41] <holstein> live boots are not persistent.. and 15.10 is not released yet..
[03:42] <holstein> so, what is going on? something specific with an asian language font?
[03:42] <balloon> This is a considerably serious problem.
[03:43] <holstein> balloon: again, *what* is?
[03:43] <holstein> im not debating any seriousness.., i assure you
[03:43] <balloon> Asian users boot a live commonly now, and a letter is not readable.
[03:44] <balloon> So I want a developer to improve this problem immediately.
[03:44] <holstein> lol
[03:44] <holstein> balloon: i would look for someone dealing with that language specifically..
[03:45] <balloon> In this situation the Asian user moves from Lubuntu to other flavor.
[03:46] <holstein> balloon: you cant move to other flavors, with the live iso
[03:46] <holstein> so, im unclear on what that means.. but, the live iso's are not meant to faciliate that
[03:47] <balloon> Repeated. This problem is serious.
[03:47] <holstein> balloon: sure, i get that you find it serious, and im still  not debating, or, implying, or saying its not
[03:48] <holstein> balloon: what im saying is, the live iso's are not intended for changing flavors.. so, is that what is happening?
[03:49] <balloon> Asian users is not good at comparative English.
[03:50] <holstein> we should have a team, that speaks that language, natively
[03:50] <holstein> anyways, if a fix is commited, as per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1437961 that will "trickle in"
[03:51] <balloon> When this is a different problem, I understand.
[03:51] <holstein> is it?
[03:52] <balloon> This is a problem peculiar to Korean and does not occur in Japanese even if there is few it.
[03:53] <balloon> It is a problem that an Asian font is completely deleted in Lubuntu.
[03:54] <balloon> Oneself considers that the factor will be capacity restrictions of 700MB.
[03:54] <holstein> may not be included on the live iso, but, should be easily installable
[03:56] <balloon> There should have been a package given priority which you should delete than it.
[03:57] <holstein> well, *i* dont delete them, friend.. and its an open community, if you find that something is missing, and would like for it to be added
[03:57] <balloon> For example, input method iBus should be unnecessary for the ISO before an Asian font.
[03:58] <balloon> If an English sentence is funny, I am sorry.
[03:59] <balloon> If an English sentence is funny, I am sorry.
[03:59] <balloon> I generate this sentence in Web translation.
[04:00] <balloon> I want you to understand acuteness to have to do it to here, and to tell bug report to a developer.
[04:02] <holstein> you can use any iso, and convert to lubuntu later
[04:02] <holstein> !mini
[04:02] <holstein> ^ for example... the mini iso, and add whatever language support you specifically need
[04:03] <holstein> im not sure what languages are going to be included on the lubuntu default iso, but, one can easily add whatever one needs
[04:03] <balloon> I am a person with a skill so as to use the 15.10 development version.
[04:04] <holstein> 15.10 is not released yet
[04:04] <holstein> !15.10
[04:04] <balloon> This problem is the thing that is important to a beginner using Linux and Ubuntu.
[04:05] <holstein> linux and lubuntu, correct?
[04:05] <holstein> it is specific to *only* lubuntu, correct?
[04:05] <holstein> main ubuntu supports your language? and there is support for your language in the default repos to add to lubuntu, correct? its only from the lubuntu live iso, that you are not getting the support you seek, correct?
[04:06] <balloon> I will not accept the suggestion except requiring the improvement of this problem now.
[04:06] <balloon> I catch a developer from another place.
[04:06] <holstein> balloon: this is only  a lubuntu problem, correct? main ubuntu supports your language live, correct?
[04:06] <holstein> balloon: if its a lubuntu problem, then, this is the place
[04:06] <balloon> Thank you for correspondence.
[10:39] <calimero_82> hi
[10:39] <calimero_82> can i install lubuntu 14.04 on acer 3630? thanks
[11:34] <hobbet1> calimero_82 have you looked here https://www.linux.com/community/forums/installation/acer-aspire-3630-laptop
[11:36] <hobbet1> calimero_82 you might try here also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190685
[11:37] <hobbet1> oops didnt see that you left lol
[13:04] <cinaed> I first landed in Ubuntu's forum. Sorry for my confusion but one question - do i need to go there first or does lubuntu have a direct link?
[13:07] <cinaed> The issue I'm having with Lubuntu, applications I've installed can't be uninstalled. The reason is, it still shows that it is installed in Lubuntu software center.


[14:16] <leftyfb> tomreyn: mozambique has been trolling #u since last year
[14:18] <tomreyn> i'm not sure this is trolling, i think this is someone trying to come up with "good ideas" to improve usability, but doesn't get how they're sharing that in the wrong place (and how its generally not too helpful unless they educate themselves much more).
[14:19] <leftyfb> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/pXMhd525HC/
[14:21] <tomreyn> where do you see trolling?
[14:22] <tomreyn> i see someone who is mentally disturbed in those logs, but not someone intentionally disrupting, even though these logs suggest they did (if all of this was in #ubuntu)


[00:01] <jayant> knome: what is the difference between both of them ?
[00:02] <knome> jayant, between xubuntu and lubuntu?
[00:02] <knome> jayant, xubuntu uses xfce as desktop environment, lubuntu uses lxde
[00:02] <knome> jayant, there are some other differences as well, but that's the most notable
[00:03] <jayant> knome: what is the difference between xfce and lxde ?
[00:04] <knome> jayant, lxde is a bit less user-friendly and has a less features than xfce
[00:04] <knome> jayant, lxde is still usable, though :)
[00:04] <jayant> knome: what does less user-friendly mean ??
[00:05] <knome> jayant, not as easily configurable etc.
[00:05] <jayant> knome: ok..thank you
[00:05] <knome> jayant, i don't know much details about lxde, so i'm not able to compare better
[00:05] <knome> no problem
[00:05] <jayant> knome: i think i will study a bit about both of them and then choose which one to install
[00:05] <knome> yeah. 256 might be just a bit too little mem for xubuntu
[00:06] <jayant> which package will i have to download to install lubunu, like xubuntu-desktop for xubuntu ?
[00:06] <knome> i suppose lubuntu-desktop, but when you finally made your choice, i suggest a clean install
[00:06] <jayant> knome: maybe, but on xubuntu's website, it's given minimum 128MB and recommended 256 MB
[00:07] <jayant> knome: what will be the difference between clean install and installing that package ?
[00:07] <knome> minimun means it'll boot. recommended 256 means that it can pretty much run one application at a time and not totally freeze
[00:07] <jayant> if i remove all the gnome and kde packages, then will it be same as clean install ?
[00:07] <knome> yes, pretty much
[00:07] <jayant> ah, ok !!
[00:07] <knome> clean install is just easier
[00:08] <knome> if you want to go adventurous, you can even try the minimal cd, which by default only installs the base system (eg. not even eny graphical interface!)
[00:08] <knome> !minimal
[00:08] <jayant> clean install will require heavy download
[00:09] <knome> lubuntu is the same as installing minimum, and from there, lubuntu-desktop
[00:09] <jayant> knome, i am new to ubuntu, i can barely use terminal commands
[00:09] <knome> yeah, then maybe better sticking with the live installer cd's
[00:09] <jayant> so i dont want to be that adventurous right now :)
[00:09] <knome> mm-hmm
[00:10] <knome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[00:10] <jayant> lubuntu is 80.8 MB download and xubuntu is 98.9MB...What if i download both one by one ?
[00:10] <knome> that's actually the most accurate info about requirements :)
[00:11] <knome> you can install them one by one, yes
[00:11] <knome> you can't remove installed packages easily, though
[00:11] <jayant> how will i switch between them ?
[00:11] <knome> you should be able to select the session in the login screen
[00:12] <jayant> what do you mean by "you can't remove installed packages easily, though" ?? I just didnt got it
[00:12] <jayant> knome: ok
[00:12] <knome> okay, i'll explain
[00:12] <knome> xubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[00:12] <knome> which means it'll install packages x, y, z, a, b, c, ...
[00:12] <knome> though some of those packages might already be installed in your system
[00:13] <knome> let's say x, y, and b
[00:13] <jayant> i know about that
[00:13] <knome> there's no easy way to know that you need to remove z, a, and c
[00:13] <jayant> the size i told you
[00:13] <knome> yeah
[00:13] <knome> id you remove the xubuntu-desktop metapackage, none of the packages it installed are removed though
[00:13] <jayant> was what i read in the terminal when i tried sudo-apt get install xubuntu-desktop
[00:13] <knome> yes
[00:13] <jayant> knome: oh...ok
[00:14] <knome> !purexfce
[00:14] <knome> there are things like that
[00:14] <knome> but those aren't 100% reliable
[00:15] <jayant> should i remove all kde and gnome packages before installing xubuntu or lubuntu
[00:15] <jayant> or can i remove them later on too
[00:15] <knome> no
[00:15] <jayant> ?
[00:15] <knome> you should remove them later
[00:15] <jayant> ok
[00:15] <knome> (if you necessarily do want to remove them)
[00:17] <jayant> will installing the xubuntu-desktop package also install the light-weight apps that are there on xubuntu ?
[00:17] <knome> yes
[00:18] <jayant> according to what i am seeing is, xubuntu is running windows on classic style and lubuntu is running windows 98 :)
[00:18] <knome> heh, something like that
[00:18] <knome> we're refreshing the xubuntu style for 11.04, though
[00:19] <jayant> are you a ubuntu developer ?
[00:19] <knome> i help xubuntu with the artwork+stuff
[00:19] <knome> so yeah, i think that kind of makes me a ubuntu developer :)
[00:19] <jayant> hmm
[00:20] <jayant> thats nice
[00:20] <knome> http://shimmerproject.org/files/2011/03/greybird.png - preview of xubuntu 11.04 :)
[00:20] <jayant> what does 0 upgraded, 139 newly installed, 2 to remove and 281 not upgraded. mean ??
[00:21] <jayant> i mean what does remove and not upgraded mean ?
[00:21] <jayant> i see this when i install something from terminal
[00:21] <knome> 2 packages need to be removed
[00:22] <knome> 281 will kept not upgraded, since you didn't select to upgrade, you wanted to install new packages
[00:22] <knome> sudo apt-get upgrade if you want to upgrade first
[00:22] <jayant> why are packages required to removed ?
[00:22] <knome> some packages conflict, and can't be installed at the same time in the same computer
[00:23] <knome> that's probably nothing to worry about though
[00:23] <jayant> ok
[00:23] <jayant> the new look that you gave a link for, is pretty much same as ubuntu
[00:24] <jayant> just a classic theme
[00:24] <jayant> and not much gradients
[00:24] <knome> mmh, true
[00:25] <jayant> the link that you gave me before, about system requirements...there were a lot many distros mentioned there and puppy seems to be the best one
[00:25] <jayant> shall i give that a try too ?
[00:26] <knome> it's really not user-friendly
[00:26] <jayant> but still, if i start using it, it will become user-friendly for me :)
[00:27] <jayant> does lubuntu come with google chrome ?
[00:27] <knome> umm, well, it's really hard
[00:27] <knome> re: lubuntu+chrome: i think, yeah
[00:27] <knome> if you want to save resources though, you should think of some other browser, if that's at all possible
[00:27] <knome> and you can also have chrome in xubuntu
[00:28] <jayant> knome, i dont use chrome, but i have it installed thought
[00:28] <knome> (ubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu share the repositories, so any application you can have in one, you can have in the other)
[00:28] <jayant> though*
[00:28] <knome> btw,
[00:28] <jayant> i actually asked it because i saw this on terminal: http://shimmerproject.org/files/2011/03/greybird.png
[00:28] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/getubuntu is updated
[00:28] <jayant> oops...forgot to copy
[00:28] <jayant> wt
[00:29] <jayant> i pressed ctrl+C on the termianl to copy
[00:29] <jayant> and the download was aborted
[00:29] <knome> hmm
[00:29] <jayant> will it resume if i start it again
[00:29] <jayant> ?
[00:29] <knome> yeah, that's the abort command
[00:29] <knome> yeah, it should
[00:29] <knome> at least from the beginning of the last package you were downloading
[00:30] <jayant> the first package was 1 chromium-browser 8,745kB/15.4MB 56%
[00:30] <jayant> thats why i asked you about chrome
[00:30] <knome> with lubuntu? mm-hmm
[00:30] <jayant> yeah with lubuntu
[00:30] <knome> they do use chrome as default afaik
[00:31] <jayant> whats afaik ?
[00:31] <knome> afaik == as far as i know :)
[00:31] <jayant> This time i got "Need to get 79.9MB/80.8MB of archives." what does that mean ?
[00:31] <jayant> ok
[00:31] <jayant> will it download 79.9MB or 80.8 ?
[00:31] <knome> 79.9MB
[00:32] <jayant> i got it
[00:32] <knome> 80.8MB is the amount what you have to download, and 0.9MB is already downloaded
[00:32] <jayant> the download resumes
[00:32] <jayant> :D
[00:32] <jayant> hmm
[00:33] <jayant> do you use C++ ?
[00:33] <knome> nope, i'm an artist rather than a coder
[00:34] <jayant> ok....do you make 3d models ??
[00:34] <knome> not really :)
[00:35] <jayant> i googled system requirements for puppy and got this : "Hard Drive : Optional "
[00:35] <knome> yeah.
[00:36] <jayant> see this...http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=101137
[00:37] <jayant> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=101137
[00:37] <jayant> my cell phone has a better configuration :D
[00:37] <knome> yeah
[00:37] <knome> but puppy linux is not really a sunny day to install
[00:37] <jayant> can i install it on my cellphone then ?
[00:38] <jayant> hmm
[00:38] <knome> if it puppy supports the architecture (which i suppose it doesn't), why not?
[00:39] <jayant> what does architecture mean ?
[00:40] <jayant> 20% of lubuntu-desktop package download was chromium browser
[00:41] <knome> architecture == i386, amd64, ...
[00:41] <jayant> oh ok...
[00:42] <jayant> does architecture mean processor ?
[00:43] <knome> well, processor architecture ;)
[00:44] <jayant> hmm
[00:44] <jayant> which application do you use for image editing ?
[00:45] <knome> inkscape mostly
[00:45] <jayant> can i pause something running in terminal ?
[00:45] <jayant> ok..
[00:45] <knome> umm, i suppose you can...
[00:46] <jayant> how ?
[00:46] <knome> ctrl+z if i remember correctly
[00:47] <jayant> that stopped it
[00:47] <jayant> how do i continue it ?
[00:49] <knome> fg
[00:49] <jayant> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:49] <jayant> whats fg ?
[00:49] <knome> fg continues
[00:49] <jayant> ok
[00:49] <jayant> thank you
[00:49] <jayant> :)
[00:49] <knome> you can't upgrade/install something else if you have something installing/upgrading already
[00:49] <jayant> hmm
[00:50] <knome> so you have to wait that this upgrade is finished
[00:50] <jayant> i hope you dont mind me asking this, but you are from which country ?
[00:51] <knome> finland, and no problem :)
[00:51] <knome> (and i need to go to bed soon - 3am here :P)
[00:51] <jayant> 5:21 AM here.... :D
[00:52] <jayant> my cousin went to finland once and he says that it's the best country in the world as regards to natural beauty
[00:52] <knome> that's weird timezone :)
[00:52] <jayant> all that comes to my mind with finland is Children of Bodom :D
[00:52] <jayant> it's GMT +5:30
[00:53] <knome> yeah. timezones rarely are :30
[00:53] <jayant> hmm
[00:54] <jayant> my last question, then i wont disturb you anymore :)
[00:54] <jayant> how will i get to know if puppy will run on  Intel PXA27x 312 MHz processor ?
[00:55] <knome> jayant, that's a normal pc processor?
[00:55] <jayant> knome: no
[00:56] <knome> phone?
[00:56] <jayant> it's the processor my cell phone uses
[00:56] <jayant> yeah
[00:56] <knome> well, don't hold your breath
[00:56] <knome> and ask the puppy devs;)
[00:56] <jayant> on #puppy ??
[00:57] <knome> #puppylinux
[00:57] <jayant> hmm
[00:57] <jayant> ok thankyou
[00:57] <knome> no problem
[00:57] <jayant> thanks a lot for all your help and good night :)
[00:58] <knome> have fun with linux :)
[00:58] <knome> good night
[00:58] <jayant> same 2 u :)
[03:26] <ljsoftnet> can i use my usb joystick on supertux and supertuxcart?
[04:14] <xubuntu474> hi!
[04:15] <Unit193> Hello xubuntu474
[06:18] <Rogan11> Hey guys... Did a dumb thing, disabled some startup things, specifically xfce settings helper and the check for new hardware drivers...
[06:19] <Rogan11> Now, obviously on boot I don't have a mouse or keyboard... Anyway to turn those back on, from either commandline on boot or by editing a file (from livecd)
[06:25] <Rogan11> That's a... "You're screwed."?
[06:26] <Unit193> That, or we are all asleep...
[06:58] <alpha999> hi
[06:58] <alpha999> I'm running xubuntu 10.10 off a live cd on amd64 platform.. When I try to start gparted > http://pastebin.com/PP0GicMa
[07:54] <ljsoftnet> how do i edit the xfce menu?
[08:51] <jorge_y> hi, I've been trying to set shortcuts on a new installation of xubuntu 10.10 on a asus r101. I expected to have to set a new profile on the window setup, keyboard section, but I have no profile list there. What am I doing wrong?
[09:34] <Sysi> iirc some old xfce had those profiles, not anymore
[09:34] <Sysi> window hotkeys are in window manager settings
[09:34] <jorge_y> hi sysi
[09:35] <Sysi> hi
[09:35] <jorge_y> ok, and how can you set a new one, I mean, I have no button for defining a new one
[09:36] <jorge_y> or am I missing something?
[09:36] <Sysi> keyboard settings
[09:36] <Sysi> there is shortcuts-tab and button for adding new
[09:37] <jorge_y> I will check again, but I thought, I have seen none
[09:38] <jorge_y> ok, thank you
[10:01] <jorge_y> I'm back. I have only two buttons there, one to emptying the list and the other one to set the defaults back. No more.
[10:02] <Sysi> i have three.. what xubuntu/xfce version?
[10:41] <jorge_y> sorry sysi, i was afk
[10:42] <jorge_y> I had a 10.04 xubuntu on it and upgraded to 10.10
[11:00] <wereyoda> hi I have problem chown dont have enought rights su root dont work??? sudo chown do nothing..
[11:01] <wereyoda> any ideas?
[11:04] <wereyoda> I know I could boot but actually I want to know how root is managed in xubuntu ecause command chown is much needed
[11:06] <Sysi> there isn't root passwd by default, use sudo -s or sudo -i
[11:07] <knome> 'sudo chown' by itself shouldn't do anything
[11:10] <wereyoda> thanks.. so everything is ok and fresh just installed
[11:11] <TheSheep> wereyoda: note also that you might not have permissions to change rights on network-mounted filesystems, even as root
[11:20] <wereyoda> owned root:plugdev and files are in ntfs partition, I copy those to native
[11:29] <wereyoda> the solution was just to copy files from ntfs to native partition :)
[12:00] <penoss> Soon he placed his cock head at my sphincter and said "it's time." Slowly he pushed forward until the head popped beyond the sphincter. Then he stopped to let me relax. After a few seconds of adjustment I started to slowly push back onto him. It was incredible!!!! He reached around and started to play with my clit - I saw stars and came continuously!!! When he came I could feel him swell and
[12:00] <penoss> spurt into my ass.
[12:01] <knome> eh
[12:39] <jorge_y> @sysi i have xubuntu 10.10 with xfce 4.6.2
[12:40] <Sysi> hum, definitely should be there
[12:40] <jorge_y> well... i don't see it... :(
[12:42] <jorge_y> it's a german version, and i have only two buttons "Leeren" and "Standardwerte setzen"
[12:43] <knome> jorge_y, should be a button with green plus there
[12:43] <jorge_y> nop
[12:43] <knome> how did you open the dialog?
[12:43] <knome> does your user have sudo rights?
[12:44] <jorge_y> i have only one user, and i can sudo in the terminal
[12:44] <knome> mm-hmm
[12:44] <knome> so how did you open the dialog?
[12:44] <knome> from the applications mennu?
[12:44] <knome> -n
[12:44] <jorge_y> well, from menu
[12:45] <jorge_y> anwendungen/einstellungsverwaltung für xfce4/einstellungen
[12:46] <jorge_y> applications/setup for xcfe4/setup in my translation
[12:46] <knome> mm-hmm
[12:47] <jorge_y> i have a 10" display, but i cannot find anything hidden
[12:47] <knome> jorge_y, it should be in the left bottom
[12:47] <knome> jorge_y, left to "remove"
[12:47] <jorge_y> it should...
[12:48] <jorge_y> should i reinstall something
[12:48] <knome> yeah, really weird
[12:48] <jorge_y> just to be shure?
[12:48] <jorge_y> sure
[12:48] <knome> jorge_y, you can try reinstalling xubuntu-desktop
[12:48] <knome> and upgrading everything
[12:48] <jorge_y> ok, i can try
[12:49] <jorge_y> as i said, i did an upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10
[12:49] <jorge_y> maybe it didn't function allright
[12:49] <knome> yeah, possible
[12:50] <jorge_y> ok, just to be sure, then i upgrade the desktop only
[12:50] <jorge_y> isn't it?
[12:50] <knome> upgrade everything :)
[12:50] <jorge_y> ok
[12:50] <jorge_y> apt-get?
[12:50] <knome> for example yeah
[12:50] <jorge_y> ok
[12:50] <knome> brb
[12:51] <jorge_y> brb?
[12:51] <knome> be right back
[12:51] <jorge_y> ok
[12:51] <jorge_y>  :)
[12:51] <jorge_y> i'll try, thank you
[12:59] <jorge_y> ok
[12:59] <jorge_y> i'm deinstalling the desktop
[14:09] <mark76> Hey cody. What's the CLI command that tells you what kind of soundcard your machine's packing?
[14:13] <TheSheep> mark76: lshw
[14:13] <mark76> Ta
[14:13] <mark76> That's a big i, right?
[14:14] <TheSheep> no
[14:14] <TheSheep> it's a small L
[14:14] <mark76> Ah right
[14:14] <TheSheep> (it's a short for 'list hardware')
[14:15] <mark76> So obvious when you see it written down
[14:16] <mark76> Ooh. I have firewire.
[14:16] <mark76> I thought that was a Mac thing
[16:32] <jorge_y> well, i did an apt-get remove xubuntu* xfce*, a shutdown, and apt-get install xubuntu-desktop. All the same, i don't have the third button to define new shortcuts. I give up.
[18:06] <valadares> how can i make xubuntu detects my wlan adapter? model:USB-11N-NTX(LOOP)
[19:20] <mark76> Does anyone here use 64 bit?
[19:21] <istok> no
[19:21] <knome> yes
[19:22] <mark76> Do you an nividia msp61 audio xhip, knome?
[19:22] <knome> no
[19:22] <mark76> mcp
[19:22] <knome> what is the problem?
[19:22] <mark76> I can't get sound in
[19:22] <knome> in?
[19:22] <mark76> Yes
[19:22] <mark76> As opposed to out
[19:22] <knome> i can't get sound in either from my audigy 2 line in
[19:22] <mark76> I can't think of a better way to put it
[19:23] <knome> yeah, i asked just because usually it is out :P
[19:23] <mark76> Unless you're recording
[19:23] <knome> yes, of course.
[19:23] <knome> have you checked the pulseaudio controls?
[19:24] <mark76> So 64 bit Ubuntu fails with Audigy cards too?
[19:24] <mark76> Yes
[19:24] <mark76> Though I use alsa
[19:24] <knome> no, it's not that it's 64-bit, it's because it just doesn't work in this release
[19:24] <mark76> The Nvidia has never worked
[19:25] <knome> the audigy2 card worked maybe 2 years ago.
[19:25] <mark76> I was hoping someone would have solved it by now
[19:26] <knome> me too, but since it's not critical for me, i haven't had much time to use to solve the problem
[19:27] <mark76> I'm going to send a telegram to the main distro's support channel
[20:06] <An_Ony_Moose> Is it possible to use a multitouch trackpad in xfce?
[20:06] <An_Ony_Moose> the driver is fine, it works in the GNOME desktop
[20:07] <Sysi> it's about xorg preferences and settings, gnome has own controls for mouse settings
[20:09] <An_Ony_Moose> Sysi: so I have to edit xorg.conf? I'll see if I can find anything about using this specific device on xubuntu, if not I'll be back ;)
[20:09] <Sysi> you can use xinput too, or maybe some GUI
[20:10] <An_Ony_Moose> Sysi: xinput... *googles*
[20:11] <An_Ony_Moose> eh, that gives me loads of stuff about xbox controllers >_>
[20:12] <An_Ony_Moose> wait hey, it's already working
[20:12] <An_Ony_Moose> just that middle-click and right-click are switched
[20:12]  * An_Ony_Moose looks at xorg.conf
[20:13] <An_Ony_Moose> oh wait I forgot that doesn't exist anymore
[20:14] <An_Ony_Moose> and multitouch scrolling works too
[20:14] <knome> if you have an xorg.conf file, it will be used
[20:14] <An_Ony_Moose> I'm so used to it that I use it without even noticing it's already working
[20:14] <An_Ony_Moose> xD
[20:15] <An_Ony_Moose> isn't there some replacement for xorg.conf now though?
[20:16] <Sysi> no, xorg just can live without it
[20:16] <knome> yeah, automatic settings
[20:18] <An_Ony_Moose> ah ok. Now how do I switch around the two-finger tap and the three-finger tap >.<
[20:21] <Sysi> may i ask what multitouch device?
[20:23] <An_Ony_Moose> Sysi: eeepc integrated trackpad
[20:30] <An_Ony_Moose> oh yeah, THAT'S what xinput is! I completely forgot. I think I can figure this out myself now, thanks for the help Sysi and knome
[20:30] <knome> no problem
[20:31] <An_Ony_Moose> yup I got it
[20:32] <An_Ony_Moose> are settings made with xinput permanent?
[20:32] <Sysi> no
[20:32] <An_Ony_Moose> ah, then I still have a problem...
[20:33] <Sysi> make a script and put it to autostart
[20:33] <An_Ony_Moose> xinput set-button-map 12 1 3 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12  did the job perfectly... so how do I make it always do that
[20:33] <An_Ony_Moose> ok
[20:33] <An_Ony_Moose> um, autostart
[20:33] <Sysi> if it's one command you don't need separate script file propable
[20:33] <Sysi> settings
[20:34] <Sysi> → session and startup → autostart
[20:34] <An_Ony_Moose> thanks!
[20:35] <An_Ony_Moose> ok that means I can now use xubuntu with no problems whatsoever
[20:35] <An_Ony_Moose> including speed
[20:35] <An_Ony_Moose> :D
[20:35] <An_Ony_Moose> thanks very much
[21:29] <sigl> anyone want to help me with finding an error that is causing a crash/freeze?
[21:29] <sigl> i've looked in a few log files and can't find anything so far


[10:24] <rigved> hi everyone. i had heard that the ubuntu-manual project needed help to prepare for the oneiric version.
[12:05] <nisshh> godbyk, what is the syntax for single line comments and quoting in the tex files again? my memory is a little fuzzy on the details :)
[12:09] <nisshh> *scrolls up*
[12:09] <nisshh> *finds the style guide link from 24 hours ago*
[15:19] <tomswartz07> i read over the setup guide for texlive 2011- will that screw up any current texlive packages i already have installed?
[15:19] <tomswartz07> i.e. should i not do that on a production machine that i frequently update tex documents on?
[17:37] <godbyk> tomswartz07: You should uninstall any texlive Ubuntu packages that you have installed.
[17:37] <godbyk> tomswartz07: The upstream TeX Live is a superset of those packages. So any existing .tex documents you have should still compile with the newer TeX Live.
[22:31] <tomswartz07> godbyk: Thanks! I just wanted to be sure that I dont mess up anything that I already have (lest i be unable to recompile my resume pdfs!)


[05:21] <JackFrost> Wait what?  Omni Fiber is a thing?  I have not heard of this thing, it seems neat.
[22:47] <dzho> yeah, for some areas, apparently
[23:22] <JackFrost> Kinda seems too good to be true, but...fiber for that price seems really tempting.