[09:30] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: its not *really* based relogging, you can relog and the process you are trying to fix could still have the wrong permissions
[09:30] <Starminn> pennnn: Pleas eonctinue this in #ubuntu-offtopic unless you have a genuine Ubuntu support question
[09:30] <pennnn> are they ?
[09:30] <pennnn> PPAs are incompatible
[09:30] <pennnn> are they ?
[09:30] <FloodBot1> pennnn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:30] <Starminn> !enter | pennnn
[09:30] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: the groups list is applied per process, you could technically end up with one process using one list of group permissions, and another process using a different set
[09:30] <pennnn> PPAs are incompatible
[09:30] <daxroc> gartral: Lots of things are missing. decent monitor detection, simple customisation for little anoyances of unity. don't get me wrong it's great but lacks a complete feature set I expected
[09:31] <herol3oy> no answer  yet?
[09:31] <pennnn> herol3oy STOP IT
[09:31] <herol3oy> stop what?
[09:31] <sdollins> marenostrum: I can't remember if you said or not but is he using broadcom drivers?
[09:31] <pennnn> spamming around
[09:31] <Starminn> herol3oy: You're not doing anything wrong.
[09:31] <xs3ns3> this new release, personally i dont like, first got hang up after the install, was not able to boot (so i had to delete the old one......finally manage to install this natty versin just to find out its like a damm vista
[09:31] <sdollins> pennnn: you're doing the same thing so I wouldn't complain.
[09:31] <herol3oy> :O i'm not spaning
[09:31] <Starminn> pennnn: Stop what you're doing.  No one says that PPAs will be compatible. Ask that PPA!s owner.
[09:32] <Starminn> pennnn: Go for it, buddy.
[09:32] <herol3oy> pennnn:   not to ask question you mean?
[09:32] <peteraz> i dont know if anyone else has the same problem - after upgrading to 11.04 on my netbook all i can see in GUI is the background and the coursor. If i go ctr alt f2 i can go to console but i do not know how to fix my GUI
[09:32] <pennnn> [10:31] <herol3oy> no answer  yet?
[09:32] <pennnn> !wait
[09:32] <pennnn> !ask
[09:32] <genewitch> herol3oy: put it on a usb drive and boot with it in
[09:32] <marenostrum> sdollins, Most probably. Yes. :)
[09:32] <xs3ns3> u ubuntu developters, want me to go back to windows or what
[09:32] <gartral> daxroc: those two examples are driver and Unity related. I notice the opasite, things worrk better in Natty, it's also faster. but to each they're own
[09:32] <sdollins> marenostrum: It appears after I upgraded to natty it stopped using the broadcom drivers but they stayed enabled.
[09:33] <ultrav1olet> I want to compile an application from sources and it requires curl devel library and includes, debian has two of them libcurl4-gnutls-dev and libcurl4-openssl-dev
[09:33] <jack123> i am backkkkkkkkkkkkk
[09:33] <ultrav1olet> which one I have to choose?
[09:33] <jack123> damn
[09:33] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:33] <marenostrum> sdollins, At first, I have had to install some 3rd party driver for him. I don't remember the name.
[09:33] <xs3ns3> whats up with that new bars, pointless and i cant customize that properly
[09:33] <pennnn> why cant get an answere ?
[09:33] <jack123> i am done with ubuntu
[09:33] <genewitch> xs3ns3: install gnome if you don't like the new desktop...
[09:33] <Starminn> !enter > pennnn
[09:33] <Starminn> !details > pennnn
[09:34] <Starminn> !patience > pennnn
[09:34] <genewitch> xs3ns3: it's not like windows where you're locked into a GUI
[09:34] <pennnn> !enter starmin
[09:34] <xs3ns3> think i just go back to ver 10
[09:34] <Starminn> pennnn: Read those. UInderstand the channel rules.
[09:34] <jack123> hey marenostrum
[09:34] <marenostrum> sdollins, good news for his problem. So maybe when I upgrade him there won't be such a problem.
[09:34] <Herbs> ultraviolet if your compiling it will be libcurl4-openssl-dev
[09:34] <sdollins> Actually... I just noticed, my wired network isn't freaking working either.
[09:34] <pennnn> why cant get an answere ?
[09:34] <marenostrum> jack123, Yesss.
[09:34] <xs3ns3> im locked now. cant configure the gui on this new version
[09:34] <Starminn> pennnn: You cannot get an answer because you are nto asking a question.
[09:34] <sdollins> I think I'm about to cry lol..
[09:34] <pennnn> MY QUESTION IS
[09:34] <marenostrum> jack123, How did you do??
[09:34] <pennnn> SHOULD i change to kde !!!!
[09:34] <xs3ns3> on this nathy version are u allowed to move ur gui? move the bars etc?
[09:34] <jack123> i am done with ubuntu its not working and it messed up my win boots are well
[09:34] <herol3oy> genewitch: you mean I should move the iso file to a USB flash memroy and then mount it?
[09:34] <pennnn> i asked 3 hours ago
[09:35] <jack123> as well*
[09:35] <Starminn> pennnn: Nobody can make thew decision for you. Have you tried it out?
[09:35] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, login to ubuntu classic if you wish to go back to gnome 2 desktop
[09:35] <peteraz> i got background only after upgrade please help
[09:35] <genewitch> herol3oy: on the ubuntu website if you click "get ubuntu" it says "use usb - show me how"
[09:35] <pennnn> Starminn: i dont like unity and gnome 3. and i wont get into trouble with any ppas in 11.10
[09:35] <llutz> pennnn: nobody can answer that. its like "should i go fishing?", your decision
[09:35] <daxroc> gartral: It's more than a driver problem, and shipping with experimental drivers. Is that a good situation to start in (nouvaeu). As for faster on a core i7 here and performance is a little slow. If I wanted more I would custom comple tho , I'll take ease of maintenence for one box over speed :)
[09:35] <xs3ns3> i think im in ubuntu classic since the laptop at start pointed me that cant run unity so im running on classic
[09:35] <maedox> pennnn: Log in with Ubuntu Classic as the session then....
[09:35] <gartral> !classic | xs3ns3
[09:35] <quiescens> don't go fishing, the weather's not good for it
[09:36] <marenostrum> jack123, Sorry to hear that. I wish I were near you. Isn't there someone near you who can help?
[09:36] <sjuxax> I am using natty server in a VM. I cahnged the MAC address from what it was installed with and now eth0 won't appear. How do I fix this? I've tried dpkg-reconfigure network to no win
[09:36] <sjuxax> lspci shows it as an Ethernet controller, but does not show in ifconfig
[09:36] <pennnn> maedox.: there is no classical in 11.10 !
[09:36] <Starminn> pennnn: 11.10 is still 6 months away.
[09:36] <maedox> pennnn: this is ubuntu not ubuntu+1
[09:36] <genewitch> xs3ns3: i think that's the netbook desktop
[09:36] <jack123> nope
[09:36] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, logout then log back in and double check that ubuntu classic is selected otherwise it will throw you into 2d unity as I am aware
[09:36] <genewitch> xs3ns3: at least, they looked the same to me
[09:36] <pennnn> yes but i have a work shop here and the workers
[09:36] <sdollins> I think maybe telling him they were removing it 11.10 was a bad idea xd
[09:36] <Starminn> maedox: #ubuntu_1 is invitation-only for now
[09:36] <sdollins> it in*
[09:36] <pennnn> i cant say there, OH today, stop gnome, now unity
[09:36] <xs3ns3> gonna check that....... thks
[09:37] <pennnn> it must be planned
[09:37] <pennnn> long time before
[09:37] <gartral> daxroc: true, but i'm on an Aton N455.. and Pinetrail IGP.. my drivers work out of the kernel!
[09:37] <pennnn> so that why i asked, if it a ppa is good or not, so if it is NOT got, i would change environment
[09:37] <pennnn> s
[09:37] <Starminn> pennnn: So start the switch now. You have 6 months. You're making a switch either way. You're either switching to Gnome3, KDE, or Unity. Choose one, and stick with it.
[09:37] <jack123> marenostrum how to remove ubuntu boot information from windows boot
[09:37] <herol3oy> genewitch: Actually I have got the iso files! I just want to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.4 without any downloding packages?
[09:38] <Herbs> sjuax you need to make sure the vm has the same mac
[09:38] <Technikfreak> hello is here someone from czech please pm me short thx (sorry for off topic)
[09:38] <herol3oy> genewitch: i just mounted the iso file and run this " gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[09:38] <gartral> herol3oy: that's not possible, even with the alternate install cd. you still need a network
[09:38] <marenostrum> jack123, Would you like me to help step by step on private IRC converstion. From Windows maybe. And wgat's messed up with your Windows installation?
[09:38] <pennnn> Starminn: i tested gnome 3 a long time, and i like it, but it isnt in ubuntu ppas, and the ppa seems buggy
[09:38] <maedox> pennnn: Adding the Gnome PPA shouldn't be a problem if that's what you're asking
[09:38] <jack123> sure
[09:38] <jack123> how to do that
[09:38]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[09:38] <herol3oy> genewitch: no anyother way?
[09:38] <pennnn> maedox: yes but i want gnome 2
[09:38] <Starminn> pennnn: That's because Canonical does not support Gnome3. All other distros do, though.
[09:39] <genewitch> herol3oy: unplug your internet then... then it can't download. or, put it on a USB drive like i said and boot from it, and run the normal upgrade that won't break everything
[09:39] <Starminn> pennnn: You could try Xubuntu. Very similar to Gnome 2
[09:39]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[09:39] <Psychobudgie> jack123 : if you wish to go back to single windows boot, boot from your windows cd and choose to boot into dos recovery and type fixmbr, that should do the trick
[09:39] <sdollins> I tried to use Xubuntu but missed some stuff :(
[09:39] <sdollins> Even Ambiance lol
[09:39] <vibhav>  pennnn you want to use gnome 2 in ubuntu 11.04?
[09:39] <genewitch> does ubuntu have an issue booting past the 1TB mark?
[09:39] <daxroc> Is unity not a bastadisation of gnome3 ?
[09:39] <pennnn> vibhav
[09:39] <vibhav>  pennnn you want to use gnome 2 in ubuntu 11.04
[09:39] <pennnn> i want use !! gnome 2 in 11.10
[09:39] <marenostrum> jack123, have a look here: http://expertester.wordpress.com/2008/07/27/how-to-remove-ubuntu-boot-loader-xp-and-vista/
[09:39] <xs3ns3> thanks for pointing me out to log out and relog on classic, helped me, was about to install 10 again...
[09:39] <Starminn> No, he's up in arms about how 11.10 won't have classic GNOME even when the Gnome devs themselves don't support it anymore.
[09:40] <vibhav>  pennnn yes?
[09:40] <Starminn> vibhav: ^
[09:40] <pennnn> yes vibhav
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, unity is a shell for gnome 2, gnome-shell is a shell for gnome 3
[09:40] <vibhav>  pennnn in the login session chose Ubuntu Classic where Ubuntu is written
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, no problem
[09:40] <daxroc> Psychobudgie: very gnome shell like tho
[09:40] <pennnn> vibhav 11.10 hasnt got it !!!!
[09:40] <xs3ns3> +karma hehe
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, they don't exactly make it obvious
[09:40] <llutz> pennnn: /j +ubuntu+1        to discuss 11.10
[09:40] <marenostrum> jack123, This is better, it doesn't need Win CD: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180607
[09:40] <Starminn> vibhav: No, it's about 11.10 that he's freaking out about because 11.10 won't have "Classic Gnome"
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, it's nothing like gnome-shell
[09:41] <syrinx_> llutz: hehe
[09:41] <pennnn> i cant believe it ANYBody says crap
[09:41] <pennnn> really
[09:41] <genewitch> llutz: +i
[09:41] <Starminn> llutz: It's invitation-only.
[09:41] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, I'm using gnome 3 and gnome-shell from the ppa here
[09:41] <pennnn> the one say i should go ubuntu+1 but its invite
[09:41] <bgoldsmith> quiescens,llutz: I just tried googling, trying to find out where the environment for a process is stored ... what data structures, what source do I need to look at?
[09:41] <Herbs> do people not know what LTS is?
[09:41] <pennnn> the one say something about 11.04
[09:41] <llutz> Starminn: its offtopic HERE
[09:41] <cryptodira> hi folks.... just upgraded to 10.10 ..... all went well... except, i am NOT seeing xscreensaver under system preferences.... synaptic says it is installed....how can it be accessed?   10.10 amd/64
[09:41] <pennnn> !lts | Herbs
[09:41] <Herbs> Ive been using ubuntu for about a week been a Linux user for longer
[09:42] <daxroc> Psychobudgie: my bad , been a while from when I tested last
[09:42] <zvacet> jack123: do http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p18.html#MbrFix.exe and after that you can remove ubuntu
[09:42] <vibhav> pennnn I am too angry
[09:42] <Starminn> llutz: Umm... I agree. Which is why I'm trying to explain to him that it's a long way away. HE's asking if he should switch to KDE. I told him 11.10 is still 6 months away anyway, but if he wants to switch to KDE he should try it.
[09:42] <vibhav> pennnn perhaps you could install it
[09:42] <genewitch> wqas 6.10 the last LTS before lucid?
[09:42] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, imo, and this is my opinion, unity isn't fit to lace gnome 3's rather lovely shoes
[09:42] <pennnn> vibhav: yes but if its possible, my question: is it safe ?
[09:42] <vibhav> pennnn might be
[09:43] <Herbs> kde sucks if you want to change desktop try xfce
[09:43] <pennnn> vibhav: because ppa are very incompatibl e
[09:43] <zvacet> genewitch: 8.04
[09:43] <genewitch> zounds.
[09:43] <genewitch> cloud out!
[09:43] <marenostrum> jack123, Grub (bootloder) problem can be solved.  I can help if you like.
[09:44]  * Kasztan85 kasztan85
[09:44] <Kasztan85> dsf
[09:44] <llutz> bgoldsmith: "Linux login process" should give some first hints
[09:44] <pennnn> Starminn can i ask you something
[09:44] <pennnn> Starminn do you use gnome ?
[09:44] <marenostrum> jack123, All we need is you'll boot from live CD and we'll find a way to communicate with you while you are there.
[09:44] <marenostrum> Do you have a second machine?
[09:44] <Starminn> pennnn: I do use Gnome. I am on 10.10 because I do not wish to switch to 11.04. If I had a choice I would be using Gnome3 but it is not supported on 10.10 currently.
[09:44] <Herbs> bgolsmith it looks in /boot for the kernel image basically
[09:45] <marenostrum> jack123, Dou you have a 2nd machine near you?
[09:45] <pennnn> Starminn, okay last question why dont you want to use 11.04
[09:45] <jack123> nope i dont have
[09:46] <vibhav> pennnn I hope that doesnt happen
[09:46] <Starminn> pennnn: I will use it after about 3-4 weeks of its release. I want toallow some time for the bugs to be found and fixed in case the devs and beta testers missed any (which they probably did). Gnome3 can be run on 11.04, but it kills Unity (which is fine with me as I'm not a fan of it).
[09:46] <cryptodira> xscreensaver lives under preferences in 10.04...... it is NOT there in 10.10..... where did it get moved to?    10.10 amd/64
[09:46] <pennnn> vibhav: do you gnome usee too
[09:46] <Danielq> buenas noches
[09:46] <Danielq> o buenos dias
[09:46] <jack123> ok marenostrum
[09:47] <jack123> suggest me a good linux distro  . one that hopefully works lol
[09:47] <Danielq> disculpen  la molestia pero me podrian ayudar con un problemita que tengo.._
[09:47] <syrinx_> !es | Danielq
[09:47] <pennnn> vibhav: do you gnome usee too
[09:47] <Danielq> ok gracias
[09:47] <Herbs> jack123 if you cant get ubuntu to work forget Linux
[09:48] <syrinx_> ^
[09:48] <vibhav> pennnn I use gnome 3
[09:48] <jack123> lol but mandriva works like a charm
[09:48] <pennnn> ok
[09:48] <jack123> i am sure it a bug in ubuntu
[09:48] <marenostrum> jack123, You'll get mad, but its Ubuntu. And you may try, fedora.
[09:48] <Herbs> jack123 stick to what works for you then learn Linux more then decide
[09:48] <Starminn> vibhav: Gnome3 in 11.04, right?
[09:49] <jack123> :(
[09:49] <mithran> how do i register?
[09:49] <mithran> with my nick
[09:49] <mithran> ?
[09:49] <Herbs> if you cant switch from mandriva to ubuntu you need to learn
[09:49] <hateball> !register | mithran
[09:49] <syrinx_> the hateball returns
[09:49] <marenostrum> jack123, If I need to name another distrı I'll say Fedora.
[09:49] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: permissions are stored for each process individually, and not in the usual "environment" per se, if you plan to look deeper into this you can probably have a look at setgroups() and work your way back from there but going all the way back to where in the kernel each process's individual groups list is stored is probably beyond the scope of a channel like this
[09:49] <xs3ns3> linux mint its also a good n stable distro
[09:50] <jack123> how about suse.?
[09:50] <jack123> debain
[09:50] <pennnn> linux mint is shit
[09:50] <pennnn> !other
[09:50] <jack123> how is mandriva.?
[09:50] <Herbs> bgoldsmith told you you needed to look at the group permissions ages ago
[09:50] <syrinx_> !langauge | pennnn
[09:50] <MethedMan> anybody have experience using "Evolution" on Ubuntu with TOR?  i am getting DNS leaks and would like to try to plug the leaks.
[09:50] <DocPlatypus> PC has been running 9.10 until a couple days ago when I upgraded to 10.04 LTS. ever since then I have had sound switching over to "dummy output" for no reason I can figure out. where to begin troubleshooting this and/or how do I get it back to my soundcard when it does? kernel -- 2.6.32-31-generic, audio -- 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[09:50] <bgoldsmith> quiescens: thanks! I'm looking at the kernel sources
[09:51] <Herbs> nothing to do with the kernel
[09:51] <xs3ns3> found mint user frienly (gnome mint)
[09:51] <marenostrum> jack123, Dont mess up Grub bootloder more. If the CD at hand is not brıken, try to install with it again. or try to install lets say Fedora to that partition. It will most probably install Grub bootloder again and you'll have Fedora at hand and your Windows untouched.
[09:52] <bgoldsmith> Herbs: yes, thanks! the problem was solved. I was just trying to do some extra learning about how the users group info is stored in memory when he logs in.
[09:52] <maxb> Does anyone know how to make nautilus not launch on inserting a USB stick? (natty)
[09:52] <Herbs> grub is easy to reinstall this is the thing with new Linux users to scared to break anything
[09:52] <guschtel_> hi! i just installed ubuntu 10.10 in my toshiba sat. l505dhave been a series of problems ever since. first my wireless did not work and now video and sound are failing. plus the funcs of my laptop dont work. anybody knows what to do?.  Maybe they look anonymous to you, but they are not. Disclamer: I work in computer security
[09:57] <Haegin> Hi, I upgraded to 11.04 yesterday and now when I log in my gtk theme doesn't work so I have to restart gnome-settings-daemon to fix this. Also my mouse stops working about 5-10 minutes after login.
[09:57] <pennnn> gnome 3 is really good usuable
[09:57] <nexusism> joined #ubuntu-ko
[09:58] <pennnn> but kde is faster, to find things and so
[09:58] <DeathNote> ok sister thanks
[09:58] <marenostrum> jack123, Do you have many critical unbackuped data on your Windows partition?
[09:58] <constl> kde is faster than gnome?
[09:58] <MethedMan> invernizzi: what if i send it through tor with namoroka?
[09:58] <Herbs> methedman spamming aint easy :)
[09:58] <jack123> yes definately
[09:58] <xs3ns3> guschtel lets see if theres any wise person around who can give u a better feed ^^
[09:58] <jack123> i dont want to mess my windows
[09:58] <MethedMan> invernizzi: also i am not so concerned if google knows where things are coming from.  i am more concerned with the immediate parties that i am in contact with that could possible blow my cover
[09:59] <marenostrum> jack123, I see.
[09:59] <pennnn> gnome 3 is really good usuable
[09:59] <pennnn> but kde is faster, to find things and so
[09:59] <jack123> i have adobe
[09:59] <sdollins> I'm about ready to switch to Windows :(
[09:59] <jack123> i have vega pro
[09:59] <Herbs> methedman then encrypt your messages
[09:59] <invernizzi> MethedMan, no, tor just protects your ip. The thing is, the email still carries meta information about the sender. the correct tool for the job is "mixmaster"
[09:59] <invernizzi> it's in the repos
[09:59] <xs3ns3> tor ?
[09:59] <sdollins> If something breaks then, I can just make Dell fix it :D!
[09:59] <xs3ns3> hmm
[10:00] <xs3ns3> u can use tor + encrypt?
[10:00] <pennnn> gnome 3 is really good usuable
[10:00] <pracrash> how to make bootable usb drive from ubuntu for windows 7
[10:00] <pennnn> but kde is faster, to find things and so
[10:00] <syrinx_> pennnn: stop spamming
[10:00] <MethedMan> invernizzI: downloading now. how do i use it
[10:00] <sdollins> marenostrum: It seems I've /fixed/ it or it's just cooperating for more than 1 reboot.
[10:00] <Herbs> theres a man for everything
[10:00] <invernizzi> MethedMan, mixmaster strips metadata from emails and forwards the email from server to server to delay it and make it untraceable
[10:00] <sdollins> As for how? I have no idea but it is apparently working.
[10:01] <Herbs> hes a spammer dont advise him
[10:01] <pracrash> does anyone know
[10:01] <MethedMan> herbs: not a spammer
[10:01] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. On my ubuntu 11.04 server, when i add a ppa, via add-apt-repository, apt-get doenst use it. Or, not fully anyways. As you can see here: https://gist.github.com/952345 I add the repository and update, but its not on the list over loaded repos. I did a strace that shows it actually does "see" the repo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602496/
[10:01] <marenostrum> sdollins, Nice to hear. :)
[10:01] <abhinav_singh> marenostrum i have installed Libre Office..its much better than openoffice
[10:01] <MethedMan> herbs: troll somewhere else please
[10:01] <sdollins> I bet I'm annoying the piss out of people with pidgin signing in and out xd
[10:01] <ChrisBuchholz> I have asked in #ubuntu-server. No answers. Can you guys help me?
[10:01] <invernizzi> MethedMan, just launch it, it's pretty self explanatory. keep in mind that the delay between sending and receipt can be of hours. the purpose is to avoid to leak even the time of sending
[10:01] <MethedMan> invernizzi: what servers should i connect it to
[10:01] <pennnn> Herbs troll somewhere else please
[10:01] <Starminn> sdollins: I haven't noticed. I'm using Pidgin.
[10:01] <pennnn> !troll | herbes
[10:02] <Herbs> ok methed whats your legitamate reasoning ?
[10:02] <MethedMan> invernizzi: i have 5 options in the install. not sure which one to choose
[10:02] <sdollins> Starminn: I keep rebooting so it's signing in and out.
[10:02] <invernizzi> MethedMan,  tell me which options are there
[10:02] <MethedMan> herbs: i do not answer to you, and did not appreciate your incorrect assessment
[10:03] <Starminn> sdollins: Ah. I guess I've kind of trained myself to "phase out" the sign-in/sign-out. There's an otion to have those nto show up but I kept talking ot myself then.
[10:03] <syrinx_> lol
[10:03] <MethedMan> invernizzi: no configuration, internet site, internet with smarthost, satellite system, local only
[10:03] <invernizzi> local
[10:03] <sdollins> I have you on my contact list? o:
[10:03] <Herbs> your a spammer unless you prove otherwise
[10:03] <syrinx_> Herbs: +1
[10:03] <Starminn> The next person who even so much as utters the word "troll" will be on my blacklist and I will be unhappy at you for the rest of my life.
[10:03] <pennnn> please
[10:03] <pennnn> help me
[10:04] <invernizzi> herbs: spammers use botnets to send emails, not remailers. Trust me, this is not the system to send spam. Again, I work exaclty on malware and spam
[10:04] <syrinx_> !please | pennnn
[10:04] <pennnn> i know i asked
[10:04] <xs3ns3> herbs, better prove hes a spammer otherwise hes not, ok?
[10:04] <pennnn> but i want kde
[10:04] <syrinx_> then use it
[10:04] <sdollins> pennnn: then install kubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <pennnn> i have to reinstall pc distroyed
[10:04] <sdollins> Then go download it and install it
[10:05] <Herbs> ok xs3ns3 I work for an web host and have to deal with them daily
[10:05] <sdollins> I can't tell if I just need to do a clean install or if the classic mode is buggy as hell.
[10:06] <sdollins> It's like everytime I login some applet is failing or the theme is all screwed up.
[10:06] <pennnn> sdollins: but i want gnome 2! but there are not any possilbilites are there ?
[10:06]  * sdollins sighs...
[10:06] <MethedMan> invernizzi: i sent you a private message with a website that i am involved with.
[10:06] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, Nice to hear that you like Libre Office.
[10:07] <invernizzi> MethedMan, seen
[10:07] <pennnn> sdollins: it is really the last question !!
[10:07] <pennnn> sdollins: but i want gnome 2! but there are not any possilbilites are there ?
[10:07] <Starminn> pennnn: Seeing as the fact that the Gnome developers are not developing Gnome2 any longer, it is not likely, no. Canonical will continue to mainain it for the use of Unity, but what they do  with it at this point is to their discretion.
[10:08]  * syrinx_ facepalms, i'm outta here
[10:08] <pennnn> ok thanks
[10:08] <Starminn> pennnn: Your question has been answered.
[10:08] <Starminn> pennnn: You're welcome.
[10:08] <Herbs> ok xs3ns3 either way its not ubuntu help he wants so is it not off topic?
[10:08] <Starminn> syrinx_: He's gone!!! He's really, really gone!! (After tlling him that exact same thing two OTHER times)
[10:09] <syrinx_> XD
[10:09] <syrinx_> almost quit irc forever
[10:09] <DASDAS> who
[10:09] <Starminn> Haha. Nobody can be rww like rww.
[10:09] <d-snake> hey guys. is it possible to "blacklist" application from the global menu?  Because I am now hating this channel very much.
[10:11] <tuxx-> VanDyke: just use awesomewm :-D
[10:11] <Starminn> s/of/or
[10:11] <VanDyke> staying with 10.10
[10:11] <sdollins> VanDyke: Good idea as I'm pretty sure 11.04's classic mode is buggy (possibly on purpose ._.)
[10:12] <Dark_Star1> Hi. is there anyone here that uses virtualbox in ubuntu and has managed to configure the networking for the guest OS?? I can't get anything from loopback ping
[10:12] <Starminn> sdollins: I am waiting a month before upgrading, at which point I'll use Gnome3
[10:12] <Herbs> ubuntu is all good because you decide to use the none lts thats your issue
[10:13] <Chipzzz> Dark_Star1: Did u try a bridged connection?
[10:13] <Starminn> Herbs: No one said anything negative about Ubuntu.
[10:13] <sdollins> Everytime I reboot 1 of 2 things happens: Wifi doesn't work or applets fail like crazy
 I'm starting to really dislike Ubuntu. :(
[10:14] <sdollins> what about it?
[10:14] <sdollins> Not using LTS has nothing to do with that.
[10:14] <siddhantchd> need help guys http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747052
[10:14] <Herbs> why does it not you expect something to work perfect and its not lts
[10:14] <sdollins> I don't think expecting a normal release to be stable is absurd.
[10:15] <Herbs> Im a slackware user who runs red hat/fedora/centOs based servers
[10:15] <Starminn> Herbs: Oh, I'm sorry. I thought he meant the trolls in this channel.
[10:15] <Starminn> Herbs: You're right. I'm wrong. :)
[10:17] <marenostrum> sdollins, I'm with you. No one says that LTS is more stable than a non-LTS release. LTS is just long term. For those server things; not to have need to install, upgrade every 6 months. Bug is bug. Fault is fault. No matter in LTS or non-LTS.
[10:17] <Herbs> fair enough guys looks like I got ubuntu wrong!
[10:17] <maheanuu> I would like to know what most of you might consider the top five photo editors to use on Ubuntu
[10:18] <marenostrum> Herbs, Why do you say so?
[10:18] <d-snake> Push:  Is it possible to "blacklist" an application from the global menu? In my case I want to exclude Gimp from it.
[10:18] <Herbs> because the admin said
[10:19] <maheanuu> Me too!
[10:19] <zvacet> marenostrum: I agree with you about bugs,but in lts releases focus is on stability
[10:19] <sdollins> well marenostrum I was wrong. Wifi is still broken. I've given on up on fixing it. It's freaking 4:20 AM :/
[10:19] <Chipzzz> d-snake: you can deselect it in the menu editor & it won't show up in the menus
[10:19] <tic^> !wifi | sdollins
[10:19] <tbf> natty's epiphany is incredibly crashy :-(
[10:20] <thegoodcushion> I have a KWorld TV tuner that works perfectly in Windows 7.  I am running Ubuntu 10.04 on the exact same computer (on the metal, not virtualized).  Can I use my tuner?  How do I even tell if it's recognized?  It's connected to a USB port
[10:20] <sdollins> tic^: really not neded.
[10:20] <sdollins> needed*
[10:20] <d-snake>  is it possible to "blacklist" application from the global menu? In my case I wan't exclude Gimp
[10:20] <Herbs> ! opression | ubottu
[10:20] <marenostrum> sdollins, I see. fresh install!
[10:20] <maheanuu> I have been using Gimp for years and find that I can do pretty much everything that is needed, or at least accdording to my needs.
[10:21] <sdollins> I'm actually not sure if I will install Ubuntu.
[10:21] <siddhantchd> help guys
[10:21] <genupulas> siddhantchd:  ask
[10:21] <d-snake> Chipzzz: I don't mean the Unity Menu. I meant the global menu in the panel. I don't want to have main menu of gimp (just gimp) in the panel
[10:21] <genupulas> siddhantchd:  i will try my best
[10:22] <siddhantchd> genupulas http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747052
[10:22] <snikker> my usb 3.0 port doesn't work in ubuntu, how can i fix this?
[10:22] <VanDyke> thegoodcushion, lsusb will tell if it's connected
[10:22] <marenostrum> maheanuu, I, too, use just GIMP. I do many things with it. But I'm not a professinal and I even don't know 90 % of it maybe. But I can do pretty much things witjh it. Without GIMP life would be really hard for me.
[10:23] <thegoodcushion> VanDyke: I have Novatek and Afatech.  Do they sound like TV tuners?  There's also a mouse, which I recognize
[10:23] <tic^> sdollins: I'm running 10.04 LTS 64bit on a dell 64bit desktop and EVERYTHING works, including sound and youtube. A stable setup can be done.
[10:23] <marenostrum> sdollins, What's in your mind? Alternative?
[10:23] <Herbs> marenostrum you mean gimp isnt in the repos? You can still install it you know?
[10:23] <genupulas> siddhantchd:  oops i am failed
[10:23] <VanDyke> thegoodcushion, no idea
[10:23] <thegoodcushion> VanDyke: google seems to indicate that Afatech is the chipset in the tuner
[10:23] <sdollins> You see, I absolutely hate Unity and find it to be horridly unproductive. I don't really want to have to install another desktop environment so switching is inevitable for me.
[10:23] <siddhantchd> genupulas hmm
[10:24] <thegoodcushion> sdollins: I hear you bro
[10:24] <siddhantchd> anyone you knw who can help
[10:24] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: There's MythBuntu that's made for something to do with TV. Can't recall what exactly. May be worth looking into.
[10:24] <thegoodcushion> ok
[10:24] <sdollins> At the moment, I'm about ready to switch to Windows.
[10:24] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Not necessarily installing the whole distro -- but maybe downloading what packages it has by default.
[10:24] <VanDyke> sdollins, stop trolling :P
[10:24] <sdollins> I'm not :(
[10:24] <zvacet> sdollins:  then you can try fedora with gnome3
[10:24] <marenostrum> Herbs, No I didn't say that GIMP isn't in repos. Its there. I have already installed. He asked about the favourite photo editors. That was my answer.
[10:25] <VanDyke> sdollins, install ubuntu 10.10 and be done with it. Works awesome
[10:25] <envygeeks> Starminn: Mythbuntu is a "DVR" build.  It's mediacentre for Linux, but now days you can just install opensource boxee on any of your Linux installs
[10:25] <tuxx-> sdollins: why not just use the LTS? :P
[10:25] <jccb> nice tomeet you guys  bye
[10:25] <fray_> hi
[10:25] <sdollins> zvacet: I don't really like Gnome3 either.
[10:25] <Herbs> Im going now but just to free you ubuntu users sudo passwd root and set new password
[10:25] <sdollins> tuxx-: because that's just a temporary fix.
[10:25] <Starminn> Herbs: Don't.
[10:25] <sdollins> Xfce is missing some stuff I want.  IF you like Gnome2, Xfce is the closest ot tht you'll get. Really, Gnome2 is essentially deprecated, and will totally be deprecate soon.
[10:27] <sdollins> Never even heard of it, is it new?
[10:27] <sdollins> Xfce is okay I guess.
[10:27] <d-snake> ciphergoth: just right click in the worspace switcher in the bottom panel. there you can configure the rows and cols
[10:27] <VanDyke> just install Windows ME. You'll be happy, I promise.
[10:27] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: give over, it's not deprecated
[10:27] <thegoodcushion> it's the most popular Linux GUI
[10:27] <sdollins> I installed xubuntu on an old laptop and i didn't find it horrible but it's missing stuff :(
[10:28] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Except that Gnome does not support it anymore. Cacnonical does.
[10:28] <ciphergoth> d-snake - bottom panel? I can't see one - only a left hand panel and a top panel.  Right clicking on the workspace switcher in the left hand panel does nothing.
[10:28] <marenostrum> sdollins, If to be frank, I'm not a fan of Unity as well. I don't have a netbook and I still don't see the point why I should use it on a desktop. But I trust ubuntu leading team and I'll seriously try it and try to see what's in it for me. We know Gnome 2. And we'll see Gnome 3 as well. For now, Ubuntu Natty's two choice is OK for me. If not Unity, there's classical choice.
[10:28] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: If I understand correctly, anyway.
[10:28] <zvacet> sdollins:  no it's not new you can find distros using it
[10:28] <sdollins> I work in IT and at the end of the day I don't want to fight with my computers :(
[10:28] <DocPlatypus> okay
[10:28] <kaie> I have an internal disk, and an external backup disk (cloned with dd). I must restore one lvm logical volume. When having both disks connected, lvm says, it detects a duplicate, only allows one of them to be active. Is there a trick to rename one of them, so I can have both volume groups / logical volumes active at the same time?
[10:28] <Starminn> marenostrum: You can also use Gnome3
[10:28] <Herbs> gnome ftw
[10:29] <thegoodcushion> is it in a PPA or something?
[10:29] <Starminn> Herbs: +1
[10:29] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Is what in a PPA?
[10:29] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: GNOME 3
[10:29] <kaie> (for some reason, after a machine went to sleep yesterday, when it woke up again, the contents of the / partition were corrupted afterwards, just fyi)
[10:29] <thegoodcushion> for Ubuntu 10.04 or 11.04
[10:29] <DocPlatypus> my last ditch attempt to get reliable sound on here will be to upgrade to 10.10. I'm getting a new computer from system76 later this month so I'm not that worried about sound or lack thereof... but I do want to know how hard it is to switch to GNOME 3 over this "Unity" thing.
[10:29] <marenostrum> Starminn, You mean from ppa. First I want to experience Unity. Then, I'll give it a try.
[10:29] <sdollins> DocPlatypus: I figure there will be "Gubuntu".
[10:30] <thegoodcushion> DocPlatypus: honestly, my next distro will be debian or Fedora
[10:30] <Herbs> kaie did you try an fsck
[10:30] <DocPlatypus> I switched to Ubuntu *from* Debian.
[10:30] <Starminn> marenostrum: Well, Gnome3 breaks Unity so you can't exactly "revert"
[10:30] <thegoodcushion> sdollins: and yes, I'm sure the GNOME fanboys will come up with a GNOME Ubuntu
[10:30] <VanDyke> sdollins, no, it's gonna be Clabuntu
[10:30] <sdollins> Fedora 15 will be sporting GNOME3 so that's an option.
[10:30] <kaie> Herbs, yes. a large initial portion of the disk now contains garbage data. no repair possible. I need to restore my backup
[10:30] <DocPlatypus> and I honestly don't give a damn if I break Unity.
[10:30] <Starminn> marenostrum: But yeah, in 11.04 it's available in a PPA. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/gnome-3-released-to-be-available-for-ubuntu-11-04-via-ppa/ You can try it on a LiveCD from the Fedora 15 Alpha or something sfrom the folks at SUSE
[10:30] <VanDyke> whoever came up with Unity was on heavy crack
[10:30] <marenostrum> Starminn, And I'm not sure Gnome3 from ppa will give a good result with Natty, especialy for a production machine as I use. Maybe I need an experimantal machine.
[10:31] <Starminn> DocPlatypus: I agree. Dirst thing I'll do. ;)
[10:31] <VanDyke> marenostrum, works fine
[10:31] <thegoodcushion> Since installing 10.04 I've been pleasantly surprised at the lack of daily updates
[10:31] <ojii> Is there a way to replace the 'view photos' shortcut in the launcher with something else?
[10:31] <faLUCE> I created a shared directory with swat. I created it by accessing swat http server with root user (if I access with myuser I cannot create a share, therefore I used root). Now: I can make the shared resource accessible to all, without a password. How can I configure it in order to be accessible only for the users which have permissions to the directory, so that remote login is required?
[10:31] <frayweb> #ubuntu-it
[10:31] <ciphergoth> d-snake or anyone else - what do you see when you right click on the workspace switcher?  What's it called? If I know that maybe I can search fo rit
[10:31] <DocPlatypus> well
[10:31] <sdollins> Out of curiosity, was there any user input on whether Unity was wanted?
[10:31] <DocPlatypus> I kept 9.10 until I needed a newer NtEd.
[10:32] <DocPlatypus> 9.10 has 1.5.x, 10.04 LTS has 1.9.x
[10:32] <sdollins> I don't keep up with things. I just use what works and it's been Ubuntu [up until now].
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> nted?
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> what's that
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> sdollins: I think the choice of GUI can change your feel for the system.  I hate KDE, love GNOME
[10:32] <Starminn> sdollins: The general consensus seemed to be no, so I guess not. But hey, they're the largest Linux distro around now. They can do whatevere they want.
[10:32] <selig5> ciphergoth: I don't think you can change the number of work spaces on 11.04.
[10:33] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: they won't be the largest distro if people hate Unity
[10:33] <Starminn> sdollins: But that's not a topic for discussion here.
[10:33] <ciphergoth> selig5: I refuse to believe that the Unity team are that stupid
[10:33] <marenostrum> Starminn, I have very bad feelings for SUSE because of some non-technical reasons. I may try from Feddora live. Or I may install from ppa on Natty these days and then make a fresh Natty install again before I set up everything on Natty.
[10:33] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Exactly. Currently they are. Only time will tell if it's continued.
[10:33] <d-snake> ciphergoth: You use Natty with Unity? Then open a terminal > type in
[10:33] <d-snake> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:33] <d-snake> This will install a program to configure it. After this you search in the application menu for "compiz". There you will see the new program. Click on "General options" > switch to the last tab "Desktop size".
[10:33] <tic^> sdollins: 10.04 works very well.  It will remain stable that way.
[10:33] <FloodBot1> d-snake: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:33] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: I remember when Red Hat was the most popular.  Then they went commercial...
[10:33] <kaie> how can I open a backup lvm volume group at the same time as the original one?
[10:34] <sdollins> Well 10.10 worked fine :P
[10:34] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Very true.
[10:34] <ciphergoth> d-snake - that's it! Thanks!
[10:34] <envygeeks> !no
[10:34] <Starminn> marenostrum: Well, I don't know Fedora very well,but Fedora with Gnome3 LiveCD was quite nice.  http://www.gnome3.org/
[10:34] <sdollins> I suppose I shall backup my data and reinstall 11.04.
[10:34] <sdollins> If that fails, I will rage and likely install Windows.
[10:35] <sdollins> Now... to find a freaking DVD.
[10:35] <d-snake> ciphergoth: No problem :-)
[10:35] <envygeeks> !gb
[10:35] <Starminn> sdollins: Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, OpenSUSE... Plus, there's Ubuntu with Gnome2, Ubuntu with Gnome3, Ubuntu with KDE, Ubuntu with Unity, not to mention AwesomeWM, e17...
[10:35] <Starminn> sdollins: Ah yes, and Linux Mint, ElementaryOS...
[10:35] <marenostrum> Starminn, Nowadays to try Gnome3 the best way seems to be Fedora -from live CD or install.
[10:35] <ciphergoth> d-snake: had got as far as looking through compiz config but didn't think to try "General Options".  Thanks agani!
[10:35] <zvacet> sdollins: so keep using it  :)
[10:36] <ciphergoth> really should be configurable through right click - there's a bug for it http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/26889/
[10:36] <bear_> hi
[10:36] <marenostrum> Starminn, But I'll just try. My main OS is Ubuntu. ubuntu Natty.
[10:37] <d-snake> ciphergoth: in the old ubuntu (or Ubuntu Classic) you can do it as I described at first
[10:37] <bik> join/ #ubuntu-it
[10:37] <thegoodcushion> Why are you posting foreign language channels here?
[10:37] <marenostrum> Starminn, Trying is something else but I made my mind that Natty Narwhal is OK for me for the next 6 months.
[10:37] <AG_Scott> Backing up my home directory should keep just about everything I need yes?
[10:37] <Starminn> marenostrum: I'd try it from a LiveCD. Again, I hear that there isn't really a "reversal process" so just keepin mind that you've been warned. I've not tried it myself so it could be easy, I don't know. I could be over-reacting. Just be aware. :)
[10:37] <adminmatt> *nix
[10:37] <Starminn> marenostrum: Alright.
[10:37] <AG_Scott> Eh it'll work.
[10:37] <d-snake> ciphergoth: Unity is not complete at the moment. It is very new software
[10:38] <ciphergoth> d-snake: yeah, that's what I was used to.
[10:38] <adminmatt> irc.whatnet.org
[10:38] <ciphergoth> d-snake: I take it the move to Unity this early is to get a lot of developer eyes on it then?
[10:38] <ciphergoth> Am not too unhappy yet, will stick with it for a bit longer
[10:39] <marenostrum> Starminn, I noted the reversal process issue. Natty instal is very new now. I may try PPAs Gnome3 today and tomorrow and then make a fresh Natty install. :)
[10:39] <MethedMan> what's the difference between mutt and mixmaster.  FYI only my 2nd week on IRC
[10:40] <marenostrum> Starminn, I don't advice anybody to try Gnome 3 from PPA on a production machine. That will be a Russian roulette. :)
[10:40] <Opium56> hey i got a question if anyone can help me figure it out
[10:40] <MethedMan> is there something like mutt and mixmaster for emacs?
[10:40] <AG_Scott> Yikes. My home directory is 23GB lol...
[10:40] <AG_Scott> I don't even keep files there :/
[10:40] <d-snake> ciphergoth: Well, I think Unity is not perfect in the moment, but I'm sure it becomes much better in next months.
[10:40] <envygeeks> marenostrum: the GNOME3 PPA is quite stable IMO, never had any problems with it yet, not major at least.
[10:40] <zvacet> !ask| Opium56
[10:41] <snikker> xorg.conf was removed in natty? i must increase dpi with a custum value...
[10:41] <jnlsnl_> Hello guys! I'm having a problem, i have a cifs mount line in my fstab that mounts a drive at work, but when i'm not at work and can't access the drive i get errors on boot :(
[10:42] <AdvoWork> anyone know the fix for firefox sticking to US letter for printing in ubuntu? ive changed etc/papersize, ive set the about:config to use A4, but still,it sticks to US letter and it greys out on print options..
[10:42] <ASEDDDD> gnome 3 or kde
[10:42] <ASEDDDD> what is better
[10:42] <d-snake> snikker: It was removed since Karmic, I think ;-). But you can create one
[10:42] <thegoodcushion> ASEDDDD: depends on personal preference
[10:42] <Opium56> Im havig problems with the new ubuntu release, im on a laptop and upon installation the screen goes completely blank, upon login or welcome screen its still blank. What is the problem?
[10:42] <marenostrum> envygeeks, Nice for ppa but I won't install it on an established machine with no plan to fresh install.:)
[10:42] <ASEDDDD> thegoodcushion what do you think ? I LIKE ! gnome 2
[10:42] <X-Rob> I'd like to dsiable the super-high-resolution text mode console. I'm assuming by stopping linux using the frame buffer. There doesnt' seem to be a way to do this. Should I give up and go back to fedora?
[10:43] <jussi> !best | ASEDDDD
[10:43] <snikker> d-snake: ah ok... but why is was removed?
[10:43] <thegoodcushion> ASEDDDD: I like GNOME 2 as well.  I'll prefer GNOME 3 when it's ready for prime time
[10:43] <lifeofguenter> hi all
[10:43] <d-snake> Opium56: But you see then the login screen? Whats your grafic card?
[10:43] <lifeofguenter> ati-radeon does not work anymore since latest update
[10:43] <marenostrum> lifeofguenter, Hello!
[10:44] <lifeofguenter> external vga is all gibberisch
[10:44] <siddhantchd> help please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747052
[10:45] <d-snake> snikker: Cause it will configure automaticly by ubuntu. For indiviual settings you can create one
[10:45] <Opium56> theres nothing on my screen even after reboot. im on an acer aspire 5736z with an intel GMA 4500MHD ,easy put its an intel onboard graphics card
[10:45] <AG_Scott> Anyone know what folder pidgin account data is stored in?
[10:45] <RXShorty> Hello all, I have a question about Ubuntu server 10.04 I am logged in and it sais there are some updates
[10:45] <snikker> d-snake: ok, thank you
[10:46] <RXShorty> but running apt-get update / upgrade
[10:46] <RXShorty> doesn't update anything
[10:46] <AG_Scott> Could they be "held back" kernel updates RXShorty?
[10:47] <vega> RXShorty: i have the same on 10.04 desktop, says there are upgrades on login when there really aren't any
[10:47] <RXShorty> Could be how can I update these?
[10:47] <RXShorty> Ah
[10:47] <RXShorty> is that the issue
[10:47] <RXShorty> I already ran dist-upgrade
[10:47] <vega> RXShorty: it appeared sometime 1-2 weeks ago, now they are stuck there even though upgrades come and go
[10:48] <vega> RXShorty: actually seems it somehow is duplicated now: http://pastebin.com/FZQ1NVrA
[10:49] <miked> Can gnome still be installed in 11.04
[10:49] <Opium56> theres nothing on my screen even after reboot. im on an acer aspire 5736z with an intel GMA 4500MHD ,easy put its an intel onboard graphics card
[10:49] <hnsz> how can I chenge the brightness of my laptops lcd on the commandline?
[10:49] <zvacet> RXShorty: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:49] <ciphergoth> miked: yes
[10:49] <ciphergoth> just select "Ubuntu Classic" from the menu at the bottom before you log in
[10:49] <miked> From the mini image?
[10:49] <miked> oh
[10:49] <novice> how do i search for available wireless networks available in ubuntu 10.10
[10:50] <vega> novice: they should be listed when you click on the network icon
[10:50] <chen> hi
[10:50] <RXShorty> zvacet: I already ran dist-upgrade
[10:50] <jubei> hello. I acidentally deleted boost from my system and now compiz cannot load the problem is that as a result gnome/unity etc with effects cannot load and I'm in a bit of a bind I've re-installed the required libraries but compiz still doesn't load any tips would be appreciated http://pastebin.com/Q2XQdYLY
[10:51] <Opium56> ubuntu 11.04 screen problem
[10:51] <jubei> (sry for missing punctuation )
[10:51] <novice> vega: somehow they are not.i need to sort of fprce ubuntu to search
[10:51] <marenostrum> AG_Scott, Can it be /home/.purple
[10:51] <AG_Scott> Yeah it is.
[10:51] <AG_Scott> I clearly shouldn't be awake at 5 AM
[10:51] <dabblego> what software can I use to restrict children's access?
[10:52] <AG_Scott> I set there and seen "accounts.xml" and still wondered where it was
[10:52] <AG_Scott> sit*
[10:52] <marenostrum> AG_Scott, :)
[10:52] <AG_Scott> dabblego: I didn't really find any good software like steadygate that microsoft offered.
[10:52] <AG_Scott> There's an app that lets you lock panels.
[10:52] <dabblego> there was one I looked at a year ago and it looked excellent, but I forget the name and google won't help
[10:52] <vega> novice: iwlist scan or something like that on the command line at least
[10:53] <AG_Scott> You can use dansguardian for content filtering but opendns parental control might be more worthwhile.
[10:53] <AG_Scott> and you can restrict the users access via normal methods.
[10:53] <AG_Scott> Drule: hey buddy :D
[10:53] <dabblego> that's the one
[10:53] <be3le3> I just installed backtrack on a virtualbox vm and I went to install the guest additions for linux it installed fine but when i goto reboot it shows me it loads the guest additions but I can't copy n past from host or even full screen
[10:54] <be3le3> any clue to why?
[10:54] <novice> vega: Thanks
[10:54] <zvacet> vega:  it doesn't duplicate you can update 1 package or upgrade to maverick it is not thte same
[10:54] <AG_Scott> dabblego: I looked for hours for a good "all in one" app but there really isn't much :(
[10:54] <dabblego> bummer
[10:55] <ASEDDDD> hi
[10:55] <AG_Scott> hello
[10:55] <be3le3> I just installed backtrack on a virtualbox vm and I went to install the guest additions for linux it installed fine but when i goto reboot it shows me it loads the guest additions but I can't copy n past from host or even full screen
[10:55] <AG_Scott> yeah i was bummed out too.
[10:55] <vega> zvacet: nope, the 23 packages to be updated message is not related to maverick imho
[10:56] <vega> that is an old message that has been sticking there for a while
[10:56] <be3le3> i could really use the help with this its a bit annoying
[10:56] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[10:57] <gogoboy> 安安1
[10:59] <Laurenceb_> hi, im trying to print in landscape, but the document is always printed in portrait
[10:59] <Laurenceb_> can anyone suggest what could be causing this?
[10:59] <zvacet> vega:  you are right but what is happened if you try to update those packages
[11:00] <linux9211> hi everyone
[11:01] <linux9211> it may be off topic but worth watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpBPVkpmoeg&feature=player_embedded
[11:04] <vega> zvacet: 1 package got upgraded and after that the 23/18 package message still sticks
[11:05] <lifeofguenter> nobody else having problems with external vga on ubuntu natty?
[11:05] <lifeofguenter> with latest updates?
[11:06] <t0rakka> After upgrading to 11.04 (64-bit) the samba crashes randomly when writing to fileshares (cannot ssh to the machine, desktop freezes, machine doesn't respond to ping's ..) is this common or just me?
[11:06] <AG_Scott> I've had issues but not like that
[11:06] <t0rakka> should I just reinstall from scratch and re-configure everything? =P
[11:07] <t0rakka> that helped last time (10.10), seems the upgrades consistently fail for me (why upgrade if everything works.. i should stop doing that..)
[11:07] <t0rakka> or, should I switch to NFS? ;---o
[11:08] <AG_Scott> I'm reinstalling right now :P
[11:08] <outy> hi guys
[11:08] <t0rakka> could the smb.conf be a problem? I retained the old one.. when I do /etc/init.d/samba restart it complains about settings that the "new" samba daemon doesn't understand!?
[11:08] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy, I'm trying Unity and I wonder what's the desktop search engine it's supposed to use and how to configure it to find my interesting files. Any help or pointers?
[11:09] <Zahrada> I've had some issues while installing natty 64bit.
[11:09] <t0rakka> AG: I probably go that way, too
[11:09] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[11:09] <outy> i need some help getting my ubuntu install to boot
[11:10] <Zahrada> When the installation process comes about to install GRUB, it fails.
[11:10] <Zahrada> It simply states that it cannot install it.
[11:10] <[4-tea-2]> Zahrada: error message?
[11:10] <outy> i recently installed narwhal on my laptop and i had to use acpi workaround mode to get it to install
[11:10] <outy> and now it has finished installing it wont boot
[11:10] <[4-tea-2]> Zahrada: there are alternatives to grub, perhaps try lilo instead?
[11:10] <Zahrada> I must add that I tried installing it on a RAID 0
[11:11] <Zahrada> I switched back to 10.10 [4-tea-2]
[11:11] <bullgard4> outy: What happens if you press Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[11:11] <outy> i dont know
[11:11] <Zahrada> and then upgraded that one to 11.04.
[11:11] <outy> what is that supposed to do ?
[11:11] <outy> i havent tried it
[11:11] <[4-tea-2]> Zahrada: or you could try a manual installation, giving grub a hand... as in grub-install --recheck /dev/my/weird/device/name
[11:12] <Noble> Is possible to get some kind of expose in a webbrowse?
[11:12] <bullgard4> !prefix | outy
[11:12] <MethedMan> is there a solid program that i can run in emacs to send anonymous email?
[11:12] <outy> sorry ubotuu
[11:12] <nags_> All
[11:12] <nags_> I am new to the IRC channel
[11:13] <[4-tea-2]> MethedMan: I suspect there is no such thing as anonymous email.
[11:13] <Zahrada> it's all fine and dandy now, [4-tea-2].
[11:13] <nags_> I have a few questions about ubuntu server edition
[11:13] <bullgard4> outy: ubottu is a machine, it is no nick.
[11:13] <nags_> who do I address the questions to?
[11:13] <DocPlatypus> [4-tea-2]: there is
[11:13] <bullgard4> !ask | nags_
[11:13] <outy> !prefix
[11:13] <marenostrum> nags_, To the chanel directly, please.
[11:14] <Joker_99> sht does anyone know what this net ubuntu update screwed up?
[11:14] <marenostrum> *chanel
[11:14] <MethedMan> [4-tea-2]: i suppose you are right, but there are ways to anonymize your email.
[11:14] <Joker_99> new*
[11:14] <botcity> MethedMan, 10minitemail is your bets bet
[11:14] <AziaBurgi> ah...
[11:14] <kryl> hi
[11:14] <AziaBurgi> hello everyone
[11:14] <lubuntu> hello
[11:14] <[4-tea-2]> DocPlatypus, MethedMan: you're right, I totally forgot about mixmaster chains.
[11:14] <botcity> MethedMan, best*
[11:15] <nags_> does ubuntu support dual-Xeon (each 4 core) server grade machine?
[11:15] <AziaBurgi> i came back from holiday today to find our server had updated to 11.04 and won't boot
[11:15] <lubuntu> i have two day lubuntu and dont have any new update for packaged ;)
[11:15] <Joker_99> whatever they changed about where the close X goes has screwed up alot on my system
[11:15] <AziaBurgi> http://i51.tinypic.com/2cz8t5g.jpg - getting this error
[11:15] <kryl> I used root lvm crypt partition (and works well since last upgrade : 11.04) , everything looks fine but when I boot after giving my password successful it show me a prompt with initramfs (I suppose busybox) do you know why please ?
[11:15] <AziaBurgi> any suggestions?
[11:16] <bullgard4> nags_: I believe yes.
[11:16] <MethedMan> botcity: what is 10minitemail
[11:16] <lubuntu> AziaBurgi,  are you restart again ?
[11:16] <nags_> @bullgard4, how do I confirm that?
[11:17] <AziaBurgi> tried restarting the box several times with the same error
[11:17] <jwtiyar> i cant upgrade to 11.04 with live dvd ??
[11:17] <DocPlatypus> AziaBurgi: "Unable to mount root fs" -- that means exactly what it says.
[11:17] <MethedMan> [4-tea-2]: yeah, mixmaster is a pain in the rear.  i do not use vi/vim either.  prefer to use emacs
[11:17] <DocPlatypus> AziaBurgi: restarting alone won't help. you need to boot from CD and figure out what's wrong with your root filesystem, or possibly your GRUB config
[11:17] <[4-tea-2]> Any help with my desktop search question? - I'm trying Unity and I wonder what's the desktop search engine it's supposed to use and how to configure it to find my interesting files. Any help or pointers?
[11:17] <bullgard4> nags_: By asking in #ubuntu-kernel and stating your kernel version.
[11:17] <nicko> Hello , i have a small problem , my grub2 boot list countdown (timer) disappeared . any ideas ?
[11:18] <^elf^> anyone got any clues regarding this? server1 = win7, server2 = natty. When doing smb file copies on server1 (regardless of which direction) between server1 and server2 it goes at full ethernet speed. But when starting the copy on server2 (remote //server1/share is mounted via cifs) it only goes at ~25% speed
[11:18] <botcity> MethedMan, 10minutemail.com mail for 10minutes!
[11:18] <AziaBurgi> okies i'll try that
[11:18] <bullgard4> !grub2 | nicko
[11:18] <jwtiyar> i cant upgrade to 11.04 with live dvd ??
[11:19] <DJones> nicko: Do you just have one operating system on the machine or dual boot? If its a single o/s, it will normally just boot straight into ubuntu
[11:19] <nags_> @bullgard4, I am planning to buy a server for building Android apps for my organization. So, I can go with the Kernel version that supports.
[11:19] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: What Live DVD do you have?
[11:19] <[4-tea-2]> MethedMan: Google tells me there's a mixmaster.el, but it's ancient.
[11:19] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, that i dwonloaded from ubuntu.com
[11:20] <lubuntu> bullgard4,  its liveCD
[11:20] <nags_> bullgard4, Is there some documentation on which HW is supported ?
[11:20] <js__> hello
[11:21] <MethedMan> botcity: that website is useless
[11:21] <js__> I have a problem regard the terminal
[11:21] <marenostrum> nags_, Please have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117827 This is abou the CPU.
[11:21] <Hack_the_matrix_> yo
[11:21] <js__> when I switch from browser to terminal
[11:21] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: There are several different Live DVDs available from ubuntu.com.
[11:21] <js__> terminal become freezed
[11:21] <DJones> jwtiyar: As far as I know, you need the alternative cd/dvd to use a cd/dvd upgrade option
[11:21] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, sorry its livecd
[11:21] <js__> I cannot type whatever from keyboard
[11:22] <jwtiyar> DJones, omg i have to download alternative cd/dvd again?
[11:22] <outy> so nobody can help me ?
[11:22] <DJones> jwtiyar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades About half way down it has details of upgrading using the alternate cd/dvd
[11:22] <js__> anyone can tell me how to solve this?
[11:22] <botcity> MethedMan, http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html
[11:22] <DJones> jwtiyar: Somebody else may be able to advise you on whether you can upgrade using the live cd/dvd, but I don't know if its possible
[11:23] <jwtiyar> DJones, thanks
[11:23] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: Using a Ubuntu live CD you can upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 but you will need a broadband Internet connection to download many additional package.
[11:23] <bullgard4> s/package/packages/
[11:23] <js__> I have never found a solution on any website
[11:23] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, i have broadband internet connection
[11:24] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: Then go ahead. But first make a backup of your old /home directory.
[11:25] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, how to backup them? burning to DVD ?
[11:25] <bullgard4> nags_: There is plenty of documentation what hardware is supported. You will need to be more specific.
[11:25] <lubuntu> you can write to pendrive
[11:25] <wolfy_> hello, Is there something like df in terminal? I wish to see a statistic of space used for / , /home , / etc , /usr etc.
[11:26] <jrib> wolfy_: df is a terminal program...
[11:26] <gartral> why were the openbios-arch packages not in natty?
[11:26] <nicko> DJones: i'm dual boot , my grub2 is working fine just the 10 sec countdown not working and i have to manualy click it, my /etc/default/grub is the same from the day i install
[11:27] <wolfy_> uhm, df dose not show how mutch space is used in /etc or /usr
[11:27] <js__> what is df?
[11:27] <wolfy_> df -disck free
[11:27] <jrib> wolfy_: you're looking for du
[11:28]  * wolfy_ is reading the ''man du''
[11:28] <frankS2> How can I check which package /bin/ls comes from?
[11:28] <bullgard4> !enter |  js__
[11:28] <botcity> wolfy_, did you mean a gui like df
[11:28] <jrib> frankS2: dpkg -S /bin/ls
[11:29] <frankS2> thanks jrib
[11:29] <js__> sorry, I am new
[11:29] <wolfy_> it is okay in terminal, a gui it is nicer trough
[11:29] <jrib> wolfy_: baobab (you could have just asked for gui first)
[11:29] <AziaBurgi> DocPlatypus: would any live CD work because the office has been "tidied" over the holiday and the ubuntu disc has gone walkies
[11:30] <bullgard4> wolfy_: Try ncdu
[11:30] <nags_> marenostrum, thanks for the link
[11:30] <frankS2> jrib: any way I can do that in reverse? Like check all files that comes from the package
[11:30] <jrib> frankS2: dpkg -L
[11:30] <nags_> bullgard4, sure, I will try to get more specific details
[11:30] <gartral> frankS2: "ls" came from gnu-utils.
[11:30] <marenostrum> nags_, You're welcome. Hope it was useful.
[11:30] <frankS2> gartral: no, coreutils
[11:30]  * wolfy_ thank's to all of you  guys
[11:30] <gartral> frankS2: ok, i wa close.. im tired
[11:31] <nags_> bullgard4, I just want to make sure that we can make sure of the full potential of the Xeon (super expensive) server
[11:31] <Rahber> ok i downloaded chrome from official site and when i open it in software center i get this Dependency is not satisfiable: libcurl3
[11:31] <purvesh> after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 my phpmyadmin is not working so for that this command is perfect or not? but i dont want to loose previous all databases if i reconfigure with this command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow phpmyadmin"
[11:34] <nags_> marenostrum, yes it was helpful
[11:34] <nags_> marenostrum, I need to go back and get specific details of the hardware to ask more specific question, I guess.
[11:34] <js__> I am now facing a problem, when I switch from browser or others folder to terminal by pressing (alt + tab), then I cannot type in whatever key from keyboard, it is no effect at all. I only can press (alt + tab), after switch (alt + tab) a few time, the terminal can work again.
[11:34] <js__> Anyone know how to solve this?
[11:34] <bullgard4> nags_: First turn to #ubuntu-kernel for establishing that your kernel supports your anticipated processors.
[11:34] <js__> Thanks
[11:35] <marenostrum> Rahber, An old forum thtead bıt may be useful: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/09/dependency-is-not-satisfiable-libnss3.html
[11:35]  * wolfy_ rm -f /bin/laden
[11:36] <marenostrum> nags_, Might be better. And keep in mind the address: askubuntu.com There you can have nice answers as well.
[11:36] <js__> wolfy_, is this a solution for me?
[11:37] <botcity> js__, no
[11:37] <wolfy_> js__,  is a joke
[11:37] <botcity> js__, lol
[11:37] <nags_> marenostrum, yes that looks a good idea
[11:37] <js__> lol
[11:37] <bullgard4> js__: What Ubuntu release do you use? What desktop do you use? Did you analyze /var/log/syslog at this event time?
[11:37] <nags_> I will go there and check out the details
[11:37] <js__> bullgard4, 11.04
[11:38] <marenostrum> nags_, There are many friends who knows a lot about hardware and servers thete on askubuntu.com
[11:38] <bullgard4> js__: What desktop do you use? Did you analyze /var/log/syslog at this event time?
[11:38] <kryl> I used root lvm crypt partition (and works well since last upgrade : 11.04) , everything looks fine but when I boot after giving my password successful it show me a prompt with initramfs (I suppose busybox) do you know why please ?
[11:38] <nags_> marenostrum, I am there right now and will post a question right away
[11:39] <iceroot> kryl: are the crypt-moduls build for your current kernel?=
[11:39] <js__> bullgard4: What you mean "desktop"? No such command as "/var/log/syslog"
[11:39] <marenostrum> nags_, Wish you luck.
[11:39] <thewanderer1> hi. any idea why a chroot made with debootstrap has "squeeze/sid" in /etc/debian_version and Ubuntu 11.04 in issue.net? or how do I check the version reliably?
[11:39] <kryl> iceroot, when I'm in busybox the /dev/mapper/vg-root are allready here so I guess yes
[11:40] <amin> hello guy last night I update my ubuntu and install items in update manager about 3mb but today I have about 130mb update  while I was trying to update it it refreshed and become 49kb worth of download update what is wrong?
[11:40] <bullgard4> js__: By "desktop" I mean your graphical user interface. For example GNOME 2, Unity, KDE, etc.
[11:40] <iceroot> kryl: but that is only the lvm not encrypted, correct?
[11:40] <kryl> I encrypt the full lvm ;)
[11:40] <js__> bullgard4: I think is GNOME, I am new in Ubuntu.
[11:40] <Kream> is there a separate chat channel for ubuntu server?
[11:41] <iceroot> kryl: #ubuntu-server
[11:41] <Kream> thank you
[11:41] <kryl> :)
[11:41] <Laurencesm> hello, I wanted to install proprietary video driver for my video card, but ati radeon x1600 is no longer supported by ati. do I need to install other distro (8.04), or just use os driver?
[11:41] <iceroot> !ati | Laurencesm
[11:42] <Laurencesm> !ati
[11:42] <bullgard4> js__: The default graphical user interface of Ubuntu 11.04 is "Unity". Do you see a few icons to the right of your screen image?
[11:43] <kryl> iceroot, don't know
[11:43] <js__> bullgard4: I only see icons to the left of my screen
[11:44] <bullgard4> js__: I made a mistake. I meant "to the left". --  So you are using "Unity" as your graphical user interface.
[11:44] <js__> bullgard4: I am fresh install Ubuntu 11.04, so I think it is Unity
[11:44] <kryl> iceroot, /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot in initramfs looks good
[11:44] <kryl> but it stay locked in here
[11:45] <bullgard4> js__: Yes. --  I cannot help you as I do not use Unity myself. --  Good luck with Ubuntu!
[11:45] <js__> bullgard4: Nevermind, Thanks
[11:46] <Dan_E> how do I get full screen view for youtube videos in ubuntu 11.04?
[11:46] <wolfy_> I'm not amazed by unity either
[11:46] <raptor> ciao
[11:46] <raptor> !list
[11:46] <bindi> Unity is horrible tbh and they should have something else for the next release :/
[11:46] <bullgard4> js__: I have read that such an error occurs with Unity. But I do not know how to fix it.
[11:47] <wolfy_> !cc verify<PHONE_NUMBER>
[11:47] <wolfy_> :))
[11:48] <wolfy_> !ccroute<PHONE_NUMBER>40
[11:48] <bullgard4> js__: I would recommend that you switch to Ubuntu Classic view. Ubuntu Classic View does not have many errors.
[11:48] <wolfy_> =))
[11:49] <wolfy_> dose channel's with cc exist anymore in these times?
[11:49] <js__> bullgard4: how to switch to classic view?
[11:49] <bullgard4> wolfy_: What is a "channel with cc"?
[11:49] <wolfy_> js__, logout and from the longin screen you can switch to ubuntu classic
[11:49] <marenostrum> js__, Your problem shouldn't have to to anything with Unity interface. I'm on Unity as well but don't experience the problem. I try to think about it but, sorry, I couldn't figure out anything. By the way, is there any other problem with the system? Is the terminal the default one, gnome-terminal?
[11:50] <mgj> In 11.04, how do i change my workspace positioning? Default has a 2x2 grid, but i would much prefer a 1x4 row. As the bottom panel is removed in 11.04, i cannot find anywhere to change this. I refuse to believe that this simple task is impossible to do in unity...?
[11:50] <wolfy_> bullgard4, irc credit card channel
[11:50] <js__> wolfy_: thanks
[11:50] <stimpie> mgj: its an option in compiz-settings-manager
[11:51] <wolfy_> there you can verify the cc, route to bank, pin number, email password and dirty h0ax like that
[11:51] <js__> marenostrum: It is a default terminal, last time when I was using Ubuntu 10.10 also faced a same problem
[11:51] <bullgard4> js__: It is not complicated: You will have to quit (or "terminate") Unity. Then start anew. When you are prompted for your login name and your logon password, you will find at the bottom at about the middle a menu which has a menu item "Ubuntu Classic". Press on it.
[11:52] <mgj> stimpie, thank you
[11:52] <marenostrum> js__, So its definetely not related with Unity. But what? Lets google some.
[11:52] <js__> bullgard4: thanks
[11:53] <js__> marenostrum: I have been googled, but no result. I think no one have face this kind of problem
[11:53] <pranav> hey, can anyone tell me the most appropriate alternative of 'wordweb', a thesaurus software for ubuntu :?
[11:53] <iceroot> kryl: is the modul loaded? (lsmod)
[11:53] <stimpie> mgj: to be more precise its at 'general options'-> 'Desktop size'
[11:54] <marenostrum> js__, Some did. Would you please wait for me for a couple of minutes?
[11:54] <js__> marenostrum: Yes. Are you found a solution?
[11:55] <marenostrum> js__, Not sure about the solution but found something similar. 3 minutes.
[11:55] <ph88> i am using SciTE as my text editor ... how do i set it so it opens new files in a new tab and not in a new window ?
[11:55] <DJones> pranav: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=thesaurus&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all There's various thesaurus & descriptions listed here, hopefully one of those will help you
[11:55] <bullgard4> Pranav: will you be content with "dict"?
[11:55] <js__> marenostrum: Thanks. Send me the link later.
[11:56] <pranav> bullgard4: no, i need synonyms, antonyms, near, & everything a word has relation with ;)
[11:56] <pranav> bullgard4: which do you suggest
[11:56] <kryl> iceroot, I'll double check do you know the exact names of these modules ?
[11:56] <marenostrum> js__, 1st link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/252144  Its an old bug and should be fixed but mat give an idea. There's one more. Coning.
[11:57] <Dan_E> is there a fix to get full screen view for youtube videos in 11.04?
[11:57] <iceroot> kryl: on my crpyted-system its "dm_crypt"
[11:57] <bullgard4> Pranav: "dict" does not list "everything a word has relation with". Sorry.
[11:57] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: is it crashing back everytime you try?
[11:57] <Dan_E> just get a white screen
[11:57] <pranav> bullgard4: have you used wordweb, i need a software like it in Linux
[11:58] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: firefox? using unity?
[11:58] <bullgard4> Pranav: No.
[11:58] <Dan_E> can hit esc and get out of it
[11:58] <js__> marenostrum: Yes, is exactly this kind of problem
[11:58] <Dan_E> firefox yes unity??
[11:58] <botcity> js__, have you got ccsm installed?
[11:58] <pranav> Someone was speaking about bug. And My ubuntu has already freezed except this empathy window
[11:58] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: not using unity?
[11:59] <Dan_E> sorry sir I dont know unity
[11:59] <marenostrum> js__, ıs there any hint for the solution for you? I'm not experiencing the problem.
[11:59] <js__> botcity: No but I have install scim
[11:59] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: is your desktop iphone like? if not then you're probably not using unity
[11:59] <js__> marenostrum: Haven yet, but I think the link that you provided help a lot. Thank you very much
[12:00] <marenostrum> js__, Did you make a fresh install or Web upgarade? Did you make changes to Compiz?
[12:00] <Dan_E> my desktop has the dock on the left side with icons
[12:01] <js__> marenostrum: I am fresh install Ubuntu 11.04, but i didn't change to Compiz
[12:01] <Dan_E> natty
[12:02] <marenostrum> js__, I see. So I can't say anything why you have the problem and why I don't. Wish luck.
[12:02] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: thats probably unity, i'm using latest flash and firefox 3 - fullscreen works fine, so i assume its a firefox 4 problem (kinda thin assumption at this point) but 4.0.1 was released, so as soon as ubuntu can brand it you'll know if its flash or firefox; unless you're using compiz then i'd reccommend disabling it
[12:03] <Dan_E> foxfire 401
[12:04] <js__> marenostrum: At least I have a hint about it.
[12:05] <Dan_E> sorry firefox 4.0.1
[12:06] <JediMaster> Just tried a do-release-upgrade on a 10.10 server I run and had it completely fail right at the start: http://pastebin.com/UGXGsRGM
[12:06] <Guest27551> hello, i neeed healp with USB wireless adapter TP-LINK TL-WN727N
[12:06] <Guest27551> i have ubuntu 11.04
[12:06] <Dan_E> how do I get the latest Flash?
[12:07] <JediMaster> the only think other than the backtrace in that pastebin I can see in the log files is: lspci failed: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[12:07] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: you can't through normal methods, you have to wait for ubuntu/canonical to brand and test then release it
[12:08] <Dan_E> thank you very much.
[12:08] <JediMaster> I'm going to try and install pciutils on it and try again
[12:08] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: so you pretty much have to wait, or try other browsers to see if it works - then you'll confirm that its flash
[12:10] <js__> marenostrum: My problem solved. I remove scim package and restart PC.
[12:10] <JediMaster> yeah installing pciutils fixed do-release-upgrade
[12:10] <js__> botcity: Is scim problem. now solved
[12:11] <Dan_E> thanks again!!
[12:11] <PeterZerneche> hello
[12:12] <PeterZerneche> a short question
[12:12] <Rahber> hello
[12:12] <Rahber> whats jockey-backend ?
[12:12] <gju> hey guys, is it possible to change the email reader for the notification area applet to something else (e.g. thunderbird) instead of evolution?
[12:12] <PeterZerneche> its for driver
[12:13] <Rahber> when i tried to install anything it says updating cache and waiting for jockey backend to exit but nothing happens
[12:13] <aeon-ltd> !package jockey-backend
[12:13] <aeon-ltd> !find jockey-backend
[12:14] <PeterZerneche> hello
[12:14] <Rahber> how do i sort it out ?
[12:14] <PeterZerneche> a short question
[12:14] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[12:15] <bullgard4> !ask | PeterZerneche
[12:15] <PeterZerneche> bullgard4: first i have to say i love gnome 2. kde and tooo xfce are also okay. but i heard noww, gnome 2 shouldnt be in 11.10. what should i do? switch to kde? gnome 3 and unity is quite okay, but not good.
[12:16] <Rahber> i cant get rid of that jockey-backend to exit ?
[12:17] <arsenall_> try fluxbox
[12:17] <bullgard4> PeterZerneche: My advice: Stick to GNOME 2 in Natty. In Oneiron GNOME 3 will be developed very well, and Ubuntu will base much of their desktop activity on GNOME 3. So, switch to GNOME 3 in Oneiron.
[12:18] <PeterZerneche> ok thanks
[12:18] <kryl> iceroot, I have message in console who said : /dev/mapper/vg doesn't exist... (but I can see it in /dev/vg/root for example (vg is the name of my lvm with vg-root, vg-home, etc...) I don't have the command lsmod in busybox ! but I have dm-crypt in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[12:19] <bob__> how do I install Googlizer please
[12:19] <AG_Scott> Does anyone know of an indicator applet (right term?) for pidgin?
[12:19] <arsenall_> enlightment 17 is pretty good, but it haves cuople bugs
[12:20] <bullgard4> AG_Scott: Yes. In GNOME 2 it is the second from the right. A letter envelope symbol
[12:20] <AG_Scott> I don't think I called it correctly then lol
[12:20] <Rahber> whats Dependency is not satisfiable: libnspr4-0d (>= 4.7.1)
[12:20] <AG_Scott> I mean something like the envelope.
[12:21] <AG_Scott> Kind of like dropbox has?
[12:21] <bullgard4> !prefix | AG_Scott
[12:22] <stephan> hey, i got a question. I removed and installed evolution. Now is my entry in the message applet for all email actions deleted. How can I add this entry again? In Unity, 11.04.
[12:23] <AG_Scott> stephan: one second
[12:23] <remoteCTRL1> i have been searching launchpad for the last 20 minutes in order to find some functionality to report a bug, am i to stoopid to find it or are they too stoopid to place a button???
[12:23] <AG_Scott> stephan: try install evolution-indicator I actually just removed it :D
[12:24] <kapu> is there a way to untar a file.tar.gz where the resulting file is not nested, but in a specified directory? Using 'tar -zxvf file.tar.gz ./path/to/file/wanted_file' results in the file nested in the parent dir
[12:24] <stephan> AG_Scott: This works, thank you very much :)
[12:25] <AG_Scott> :)
[12:25] <Aginor> kapu: yes :D
[12:25] <Aginor> kapu: try -C <target>
[12:25] <kapu> Aginor: ok
[12:26] <vanguard> how can I get rid of everything Ubuntu One?
[12:26] <kapu> Aginor: thanks
[12:26] <Aginor> kapu: success?
[12:26] <Rahber> how to get rid of that jockey-backend ?
[12:26] <AG_Scott> vanguard: open software center and search ubuntu one
[12:27] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks.
[12:28] <GeorgeJ> I'm having problems booting the Ubuntu 11.04 CD. Modprobe is returning an error with an exit status of 0x0009
[12:29] <arsenall_> GeorgeJ:  use pendrive
[12:29] <vanguard> AG_Scott: I guess I will have to restart?
[12:29] <kapu> Aginor: no, but was trying to find capital c in man tar'
[12:29] <GeorgeJ> arsenall_:  Same issue
[12:29] <AG_Scott> I dun know
[12:29] <remoteCTRL1> how do you report a bug on launchpad?
[12:29] <AG_Scott> I removed it earlier and restarted.
[12:29] <AG_Scott> Might as well I guess.
[12:30] <gothelittle> ...Hello?
[12:30] <lubuntu> hi
[12:30] <Aginor> kapu: use / to search :D
[12:31] <Aginor> kapu: also, you might have more luck with "info tar"
[12:31] <gothelittle> Hi! :) I'm trying to figure out this new version of Ubuntu and I'm not used to the chat client. How can I get it to tell me which of my friends are online?
[12:31] <Aginor> kapu: tar -C targetdir -xf sourcefile
[12:31] <Aginor> kapu: add flags as needed, for example j or z and or v
[12:34] <pvh_sa> hey there, how do i add an item to the menu in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[12:35] <kapu> 'tar -zxvf file.tar.gz ./path/to/file/wanted_file' -C ./wanted_file results in something almost, but not entirely unlike joy
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> pvh_sa:  You mean the left side 'launcher' ?
[12:35] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: First you will need an account in Launchpad.
[12:35] <gothelittle> Oh! Never mind, I figured it out, it's up under the mail icon. You click on the chat client from there and it'll bring up your contact list.
[12:35] <prov> If I boot ubuntu in the livecd mode can I direct it before it boots to full to mount the disks as readonly?
[12:35] <GeorgeJ> How can I see the full stacktrace of an error during boot? The system crashes afterwards so there is no way of reading the log files.
[12:36] <pvh_sa> Dr_Willis: no, the thing which comes up when i hit the 'windows key' - i've got bacula bat installed, but there's no menu item... so i need to manually create one
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> prov:  not that  i have ever seen.
[12:36] <prov> Dr_Willis: How can it be done?
[12:36] <prov> Dr_Willis: Do I need a special distro?
[12:36] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: i had one for many years now, but i never was in the pesky situation to have to report a bug in ubiquity without using apport or something...?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> pvh_sa:  thats dash (i think) you could make a proper whatever.desktop entry for the program and put it with the other system desktop files.
[12:37] <bullgard4> GeorgeJ: There are more than one provision. You need to install a trace program. You need to install the necessary DEB packages.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> prov:  Never wanted to do it that way. so ive never tried.  Given the varity of setups out there. I doubt if any disrtos do it that way.
[12:37] <No_one_at_ZNC> Is there, or was there, a Rehan here....
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> prov:  you could perhaps remaster your own. but im not sure what rules you would change for the mount options.
[12:37] <prov> Dr_Willis: Not even forensics distros.
[12:38] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: You can probably re-activate it.
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> prov:  go try them and see. theres many of that type out. I never use them.
[12:38] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: beg your pardon?
[12:38] <CoachJ> will wubi work with windows 7 and ubuntu 11.4?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> prov:   you could always use a disrto that has no auto-mounting feature/settings at all.
[12:38] <GeorgeJ> bullgard4: The 11.04 live cd is throwing the error during boot. I think its failing to load "nouveau". I'm pretty sure I cannot make any additions to the CD.
[12:39] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: it is not deactivated, i just need to report a bug without using ubuntu onboard means but by using launchpad only
[12:39] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: If you had an account in Launchpad and did not use it for a long time, you probably can re-activate your Lanchpad account.
[12:39] <bullgard4> +u
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> GeorgeJ:  you could try the 'nomodeset' option  at boot time. I have to do that for many of my nvidia systems
[12:41] <GeorgeJ> Dr_Willis: Thank you very much, that seems to fix the issue. However , will this cause me any further problems?
[12:41] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: I DO HAVE A WORKING ACCOUNT ON LAUNCHPAD, i need to REPORT A BUG, not to CREATE AN ACCOUNT! so far so clear? ;)
[12:41] <Aginor> kapu: why are you having the path there twice?
[12:41] <DarkStar1> How can I find out the version of slapd running?
[12:41] <kapu> Aginor: After failing a few times, i thought i'd ask. lets say you want some file extracted to the current directory from baz.tar.gz where inside BAZ.tar.gz the location of file is ./foo/bar/baz
[12:41] <Aginor> kapu: 'tar -zxvf file.tar.gz  -C ./path/to/file/wanted_file'
[12:42] <jack123> hi all
[12:42] <Aginor> kapu: oh, I didn't realise you're trying to extract only one file from the archive
[12:42] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: Log in to Launchpad. Go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[12:42] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: i am logged in
[12:42] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: Select the affected DEB program package.
[12:42] <kapu> Aginor: yes, only one file
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> GeorgeJ:  i use nomodeset. untill i get the nvidia drivers installed.
[12:43] <remoteCTRL1> which is supposedly ubiquity, where do i select it?
[12:43] <Aginor> kapu: so what is not working with the command you pasted?
[12:43] <GeorgeJ> Dr_Willis: Awesome, thanks for the help
[12:44] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: which is supposedly ubiquity, where do i select it?
[12:44] <Aginor> kapu: I'd also try to prepend -C
[12:44] <kapu> Aginor: ok
[12:44] <AG_Scott> Is anyone using the "classic desktop" on a non-upgraded install and can test something for me?
[12:44] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: They have there a link "Read our guide or take a tour.)
[12:45] <danst_> hello guys, I'm doing ubuntu netboot so I compile kernel by hand. But after it starts booting I see just clear display with only flashing cursor in text mode
[12:45] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: i am aware of that but there is no "report a bug" button in there neither ;)
[12:45] <nanomad> I'm having a problem with firefox, can anyone help me?
[12:45] <nanomad> scrolling is painfully slow on some pages
[12:45] <danst_> I can switch to tty1, and the last string tells me init: unreadahead main process (68) terminated with status 5
[12:46] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: I did not say "button" but "link".
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  i think thats a common message. I see some ureadahead messages on several of my machines.
[12:46] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: so far the most promising thing close to a report bug functionality i found here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu problem  is the "report bug" link leads to the ubuntu homepage and tells me to use ubuntu-bug, which i cannot as the bug is already in the installer...
[12:47] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1 AFAIK you can run ubuntu-bug from the installer
[12:47] <nanomad> unless you cannot boot of course
[12:47] <danst_> Dr_Willis: how do I boot ubuntu single without framebuffer text mode
[12:47] <danst_> I think framebuffer is the problem
[12:47] <CoachJ> can wubi be used with windows 7 and ubuntu 11.4
[12:48] <DarkStar1> DOes anyone know how to find out the version of the running openldap daemon?
[12:48] <DarkStar1> slapd
[12:48] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: ok so you said link not button, then please tell me where the link to report a bug is?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  the text option disablesx the framebuffer and plymouth
[12:48] <bildramer> so it's stable
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  its not 'single user mode'
[12:48] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: happen to know how?
[12:48] <danst_> uh
[12:48] <bildramer> whoops, wrong channel.
[12:48] <danst_> how do I specify it
[12:49] <danst_> APPEND root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/nfsroot/ubuntu ip=dhcp rw
[12:49] <kapu> Aginor: 'tar -C ./boot -zxf /mnt1/OpenBSD/4.9/i386/base49.tgz ./usr/mdec/boot' still results in nested file. I am not knowing where to put the -C
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  at the grub menu, edit the lines, replace quiet splash, with 'text'
[12:49] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, which installer are you using? alternate cd or live?
[12:49] <danst_> Dr_Willis: no grub menu in netboot
[12:49] <axisys> how do I automate the security update?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  i dont do netboots. so no idea
[12:49] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: bullgard4 i would like to report a bug thast i have been seing for several versions now that causes ubiquity to freeze when you choose a keyboard layout which leads to you reinstalling, which is time-consuming on a netbook!
[12:49] <danst_> Dr_Willis: could you paste your grub.cfg please
[12:49] <danst_> so I grab your options for text mode
[12:49] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: not alternat the regular one
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  its a kernel option, same as quiet splash,
[12:50] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: Apparently the processes to report bugs to Launchpad have changed. In recent times I only used the ubuntu-bug command. But this is not possible for you, I understand. The old process apparently is no longer available. I just read that you can report a bug via an Email as well.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> danst_: all i do is change 'quiet splash' with 'text'  when i want to.
[12:50] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: you gotta be kiddn me! :D
[12:50] <remoteCTRL1> geeez...
[12:50] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: See you later.
[12:50] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, boot the live cd and open a terminal
[12:51] <Aginor> kapu: that unfortunately looks correct to me
[12:51] <remoteCTRL1> now i know why this bug has been existing for versions now: how the hell would you report it? :DDD
[12:51] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: thanks for your help, dude, i appreciate it!
[12:51] <kapu> Aginor: ok thanks for looking
[12:51] <Aginor> kapu: and by nested, you mean that tar is preserving the whole path to the file?
[12:51] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: i CAN do the whole install process again and then report it... *sigh*
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> linux_probe: /vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=#####  ro   quiet nosplash  >--> replace quiet nosplash with 'text'
[12:52] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, that's the point of it
[12:52] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: my gratitude also to you for your help!
[12:52] <kapu> Aginor: yes
[12:52] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, there is a way to report a bug without ubuntu-bug
[12:52] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: yes?
[12:52] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, but i can't remember which...gimme some time ;)
[12:53] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: hehe, sure i will yawn alittle infront of my second install attempt while the progressbar creeps its way...
[12:53] <kapu> Aginor: 'tar: Cannot chdir to ./boot: No such file or directoryy'
[12:53] <remoteCTRL1> kapu: /boot not ./boot
[12:53] <zappus> Hey everyone
[12:53] <JrM> hey
[12:53] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, here you go
[12:53] <nanomad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug?no-redirect
[12:54] <remoteCTRL1> hey zappus
[12:54] <kapu> remoteCTRL1: ty
[12:54] <zappus> im installing ubuntu 11.04 on a laptop together with win7
[12:54] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, it was in the middle of the wiki page
[12:54] <zappus> and resizing the partitions takes like 10 min
[12:54] <zappus> and still going
[12:54] <Aginor> kapu: it expects the dir to exist, look into using --strip-components <numberofdirstostrip>
[12:54] <zappus> is something gone wrong
[12:54] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: the ubuntu bug reporting page??
[12:54] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, it was in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[12:54] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, middl of the page
[12:55] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, section Filing bugs at Launchpad.net
[12:55] <kapu> Aginor: ok ty again for the look
[12:55] <Fleck> anyone can install fglrx on natty?
[12:55] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, but you SHOULD use ubuntu-bug, really...it gives much more "debug" information
[12:55] <zappus> guys?
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> darn, you are rigth!
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> apologies!!
[12:56] <zappus> how long does resizing of partitions take?
[12:56] <nanomad> zappus, well...was the partition defragmented?
[12:56] <Aginor> kapu: I'm just googling really
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> zappus: depends on how big and how many data on it
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> zappus:  shrinking can take quiet a bit of time. depending on how full and big the filesystem is.
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: the bug that i will report is completely independent of hardware, etc...
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> zappus:  I find windows resizes ntfs MUCH faster then linux and the ubuntu installer does
[12:57] <nanomad> ok
[12:57] <nanomad> no one hre using firefox and experiencing 100% cpu usage while scrolling? It's driving me crazy :/
[12:57] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: thanks for your help, dude!:)
[12:57] <zappus> oh ok
[12:57] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, you're welcome!
[12:57] <zappus> there is an option in installler "skip"
[12:57] <zappus> what would that do?
[12:58] <zappus> oh ok nvm
[12:58] <zappus> :P
[12:58] <nanomad> zappus, bad things IF it is resizing the partition
[12:58] <zappus> it moved on
[12:58] <zappus> thanks for help
[12:58] <CoachJ> does anyone know if wubi will work with windows 7 and ubuntu 11.4?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> CoachJ:  i would think it should.
[12:59] <nanomad> CoachJ, why it shouldn't?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> but i dont reccomend wubi at all.
[12:59] <Technikfreak> is here anybody from czech?
[12:59] <CoachJ> i dont know i thought i saw a warning somewhere but cant find it now
[13:00] <arsenall_> Dr_Willis:   what do you recomend?
[13:01] <nanomad> arsenall_, use the installer as it is
[13:02] <vatzec> Ubuntu, why can I no longer specify a custom program to use as my HTTP link handler in preferred programs?
[13:03] <vatzec> GNU IceCat doesn't appear on the list
[13:04] <nanomad> vatzec, what's the output of ls -la /usr/bin/www-browser
[13:05] <Technium> I have a problem with my new 11.04 install. The LiveCD booted into Unity with acceleration but now I've installed it I found myself in the old experience. How can I switch to Unity?
[13:06] <nanomad> in gdm there's a menu on the bottom it says Ubuntu classic, change it
[13:06] <Technium> It current Says Ubuntu, not classic :(
[13:07] <botcity> is firefox part of the meta package that comes with ubuntu standard install and if so will there be any problems un-installing it ?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> arsenall_:  doing a normal install.
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Technium:  whats your video chipset? you may need to enable the 3d drivers
[13:08] <vatzec> nanomad: "/usr/bin/www-browser -> /etc/alternatives/www-browser"
[13:09] <pranav> I'm using Lucid Lynx, & Firefox 3.6. Now, the picture rendering quality is so low. I noticed it today, I don't think it was before. What do I do ?
[13:09] <Technium> Its a new Dell Latitude 6520 with Intel and Nvidia. The additional drivers say installed but not active.
[13:09] <nanomad> Technium, there is a button to enable it?
[13:10] <nishttal> hi I just installed 11.04 and I have 2 xscreens.. however I only see launchers and panels on the main x screen.. how do i configure the 2nd screen
[13:10] <nanomad> pranav, do you have a ascreenshot?
[13:10] <Technium> Only to remove. The phrase is "activated but not currently in use"
[13:10] <shuduo> anyone know how to apply a patch with binary diff? I tried patch -p1 --binary < my.patch but the binary file did not show up
[13:10] <nanomad> Technium, did you reboot?
[13:10] <Technium> Yes
[13:11] <nanomad> Technium, can you provide the output of lsmod | grep nv
[13:11] <trap8> nanomad: its fine with other applications
[13:11] <botcity> nishttal, enable twin view i think
[13:11] <nishttal> botcity, no i want to keep them seperate
[13:11] <Technium> "nvidia              10709116  0 "
[13:11] <nishttal> botcity, i had the same setup with 10.10 running gnome
[13:12] <nanomad> Technium, run in a terminal sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:13] <Technium> "VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[13:13] <Technium> "Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line."
[13:13] <nanomad> Technium, sudo mv sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:13] <nanomad> Technium, forget that last line
[13:13] <Technium> :)
[13:14] <thegoodcushion> I find that in 10.04 I have the su command and none of my passwords work with it.  1) Is su officially supported now?  2)  Why don't my passwords work?
[13:14] <nanomad> Technium, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back
[13:14] <botcity> nishttal, ho okay.. do you get a benefit from that set-up?
[13:14] <nanomad> Technium, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:14] <Technium> Okay, thats is cleaner. Reboot?
[13:14] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  try with sudo not su
[13:14] <nishttal> yeah.. i can have 1 desktop on 1 screen and 2 on the second.. i like that setup
[13:15] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: yes I know but my questions still stand
[13:15] <nanomad> Technium, if anything goes wrong just run
[13:15] <nanomad> Technium, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:15] <KrisDouglas> Hello, how do I load the PAE kernel on my machine?
[13:15] <KrisDouglas> is it as simple as installing it?
[13:15] <nanomad> Technium, and yes..reboot
[13:15] <Technium> Thanks. BRB
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> KrisDouglas:  it is its own package. yes.. that should do it.
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> !pae
[13:15] <thegoodcushion> KrisDouglas: PAE kernel is default, isn't it?
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  its not the default..
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> apparently not in natty, thegoodcushion
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> i think if you install it.. it might become the default. (ive neverr eally tried it)
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> Dr_Willis: cirkey
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> crikey*
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> thank you Dr_Willis
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> How do I know how much RAM it's using?
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> It was the default in 10.
[13:16] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, free -m
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> gnome-system-monitor or free -m
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: Looks like I have 3.5 gigs
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> when my puter has 4 gigs installed
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> blimey
[13:17] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, 32bit os?
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> you'd think PAE would be enabled by default
[13:17] <KrisDouglas> thegoodcushion, means the PAE kernel is not loaded.
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: Yeah 32 bit OS on a 64 bit CPU
[13:17] <KrisDouglas> It should be installed by default, it's odd.
[13:17] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, videocard?
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: discrete nvidia
[13:17] <tomekh> hi. how do i install _minimall_ set of qt4?
[13:17] <nishttal> does anyone know if there is an issue installing gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04
[13:18] <DJones> thegoodcushion: It might be showing 3.5gb if you've got shared graphics memory, 512Mb may be reserved for the graphics card which reduces the 4gb originally available
[13:18] <thegoodcushion> See, the ubuntu website says you should use the 32-bit version.  If PAE is not enabled by default, I think 64 bits should be pushed harder.  Plenty of people have 4 gigs now
[13:18] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, on 32bit OS part of the address space is used to address devices such as the GPU
[13:18] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, so 3.5 gigs is normal
[13:18] <thegoodcushion> I think it's normal too.  Windows 7 does the same thing
[13:19] <arsenall_> nishttal:  build your own, or install from ppa
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  ive heard/seen benchmarks where the PAE kernel can be slower then the non pae kernel in some cases.
[13:19] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, you should use a 64bit OS if you need the extra 500Mb
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> I use 64bit on all my machines that can do 64bit. :)
[13:19] <thegoodcushion> It claims here that PAE is installed by default on 10.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[13:19] <freakynl> opinions differ on it. basically drivers / hardware can live perfectly in virtual address space. Windows 'steals' the last piece of the memory because of shitty drivers that don't handle it well. That said, some chipset won't present the entire 4G to the OS (say my laptop for example) and thus the OS can not see the full 4G no matter what
[13:20] <zvacet> nishttal:  you can find ppa for gnome3 but installing it will break unity so everyone say that I didn't try
[13:20] <freakynl> opinions on pae differ as well, some say it costs up to 10% performance
[13:20] <xc> Hi! :D
[13:20] <toggles> zvacet: you can try from source, it's not working for me right now, will try a few more times over the next few days to see if git settles a little
[13:21] <nanomad> nishttal, please don't try gnome3 on 11.04. It will break most of the things horribly
[13:21] <thegoodcushion> I would think that plenty of people now have 4 gigs or more of RAM
[13:21] <nishttal> zvacet, nanomad well unity is not working to start with
[13:21] <Technium> After enabling the nvidia driver it booted to a black screen. I'm back on the intel driver. Confused how it worked fine on the LiveCD?
[13:21] <Irani> Can any one suggest a proxy avoidance sw for ubuntu please
[13:21] <xc> Hi guys...can i install KDE on my ubuntu 11.04?
[13:21] <Irani> Any filtershekan?
[13:21] <zvacet> toggles: I never said I want gnome3 I just answered question
[13:21] <nanomad> nishttal, erroro?
[13:21] <arsenall_> xc: yes
[13:21] <nanomad> Technium, uh-oh
[13:21] <thegoodcushion> Does anyone know if 11.04 also installs the PAE kernel if it detects over 3 gig of RAM?
[13:21] <fachher> Hello everybody. I have a problem with my wlan connection.
[13:22] <nanomad> Technium, do you have a laptop?
[13:22] <freakynl> proxy avoidance software? To avoid what? If I make a transparent proxy for example you won't be able to avoid it if you're on my network
[13:22] <fachher> Can anybody help me.
[13:22] <nanomad> fachher, shoot!
[13:22] <arsenall_> if you want plasma desktop, go in synaptik, write kde desktop
[13:22] <toggles> zvacet: fair enough
[13:22] <zvacet> nishttal: did you tried on login screen choose ubuntu classic
[13:22] <Technium> Yes, the new Dell Latitude 6520
[13:22] <nishttal> nanomad, i have 2 x screens.. i see everything only on the main xscreen.. nothing on the 2nd xscreen
[13:22] <botcity> when i install 11.04 it detected the 4gig ram and installed pae
[13:22] <KrisDouglas> I am on 24gb ram
[13:22] <fachher> @nanomad For further details please read http://pastebin.com/zFxFYqN5
[13:22] <nishttal> zvacet, yes and it complained about lots of packages missing
[13:22] <nanomad> Technium, let me guess nvidia+intel with hot switching
[13:23] <rx007> hello guys
[13:23] <adamJ> can anyone help with a KDE install problem on Natty
[13:23] <Technium> Yes... but the LiveCD worked :)
[13:23] <toggles> nishttal: shouldn't break 11.04 http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/install-gnome-shell-from-git-in-ubuntu.html
[13:23] <freakynl> KrisDouglas: 24? what do you do? They call me insane for have 12G in my workstation
[13:23] <nanomad> Technium, with unity?
[13:23] <Pepro> helo
[13:23] <Technium> Yup
[13:23] <Pepro> just installed gnome 3
[13:23] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: I made fresh install of natty and pae was installed by default
[13:23] <nishttal> Pepro, and any issues?
[13:23] <rx007> does anyone have problems with sound after suspend?
[13:23] <toggles> Pepro: better?
[13:23] <Pepro> but tells me could not update .iceAuthorityy
[13:23] <toggles> rm it
[13:23] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: next question : does your uname -a output include the letters pae?
[13:24] <fachher> I can surf through the internet, but when I download something, my connection to the router broke
[13:24] <arsenall_> rx007: no
[13:24] <nanomad> Technium, would you mind running the live cd again and posting some debug info from it (like video driver, modules)?
[13:24] <blackbit> fachher: excess number of simultaneous connections maybe?
[13:24] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: I installed 10.04 on my puter with 4 Gig RAM and I don't have the PAE thing installed.  I'm not sure whose fault that is
[13:24] <Technium> Sure, could you tell me how/what you need?
[13:24] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  I'm not on Ubuntu comp right noe but yes when I boot only options are with pae kernel
[13:25] <thegoodcushion> I bloody knew I should have installed the 64-bit version
[13:25] <nanomad> Technium, just install xchat in the live cd and join back #ubunut
[13:25] <adamJ> is KDE installation currently broken from the Natty repositories?  getting unmet dependencies when attempting to install
[13:25] <Technium> Okay BRB
[13:25] <Pepro> just installed gnome 3
[13:25] <Pepro> but tells me could not update .iceAuthorityy
[13:25] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  we discus thing witch can be solved in min time why
[13:25] <fachher> blackbit did you read this ? http://pastebin.com/zFxFYqN5
[13:25] <Irani> freakynl: it is used to bypass filtering
[13:26] <xc> Irani: what filtering?
[13:26] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: well at least I can download the PAE kernel.  31 megs, here we go
[13:26] <Irani> XC:internet filtering
[13:26] <sploenni> how can I disable unity in 11.04 when I build my own livecd with uck?
[13:27] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: and after installing remove one witch is not pae
[13:27] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: rebooting now, hang on
[13:28] <thegoodcushion> damn it, I shouldn't have to do this manually.  Ubuntu should do it automatically
[13:28] <zvacet> sploenni: I didn't try but maybe if you install with minimal cd you can choose what do you want to add
[13:28] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, not everyone wants PAE
[13:29] <thegoodcushion> Now the PAE kernel won't work with my nvidia drivers
[13:29] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, of course
[13:29] <xc> Irani : With online proxy have you try?
[13:29] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: So what do I do?  Run in text mode?
[13:29] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  drivers doesn't work with kernel of course install drivers again
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  you may need to reinstall them.  Ive never heard of any PAE/nvidia issues. but i dont use PAE. :)
[13:29] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: does that mean I have to do remove and install?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  how did you install them last time?
[13:30] <thegoodcushion> Dr_Willis: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[13:30] <thegoodcushion> I just did that again and it says they're already installed
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  odd. It should of fixed them as part of the bootup.
[13:30] <sploenni> zvacet: what do you mean with minimal cd? i took the default desktop image and modified it. now i want to replace unity by gnome-classic (for live session as well as for installation). i just don't know where to switch it.
[13:30] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: I will not answer graphic related questions because I know very little about that
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> I thouight that was the whole point of that DKMS stuff.
[13:31] <thegoodcushion> I'll remove and reinstall.  Hang on.
[13:31] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, you could have built the driver manually using dkms ;)
[13:31] <zvacet> sploenni: I can not help you with that one
[13:31] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: Homey don't play that
[13:32] <Technium> Right I've booted into the LiveCD and have Unity
[13:32] <nanomad> Technium, good
[13:32] <sploenni> zvacet: thanks anyway. maybe someone else can...
[13:32] <adamJ> anyone able to help with a kde install problem and unmet dependencies on Ubuntu Natty?
[13:32] <nanomad> Technium, post xdriinfo somewhere
[13:32] <magum_> hi @all
[13:32] <rafii> thegoodcushion: have U tried go to rescue mode in safe graphic mode, and on nvidia drivers in gui with restricted drivers?
[13:32] <zvacet> sploenni:  of course someone will answer your question
[13:33] <sploenni> :)
[13:33] <botcity> !classic | sploenni hope this is what you want?
[13:33] <thegoodcushion> rafii: stand by, I'm trying to fix this
[13:33] <axio> how do i put something->name into a c string?
[13:34] <Pici> axio: Try ##C
[13:34] <olskolirc> Is natty finally released?
[13:34] <thegoodcushion> olskolirc: yes
[13:34] <olskolirc> thanks thegoodcushion
[13:34] <nanomad> !paste > Technium
[13:34] <nishttal> this time i chose Ubuntu classic at login and i see Gnome
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:   when in doubt try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and try reinstalling 'kubuntu-desktop' again.  What package name are you trying to install exactly?
[13:35] <nishttal> however, i see window decorations on only 1 screen
[13:35] <thegoodcushion> Okay, nvidia drivers for my GTX 460 SE do not work with PAE kernel.  Full stop.
[13:35] <nishttal> the other screen windows do not have title bars nor am i able to type in them
[13:35] <nishttal> any clues?
[13:35] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, what's the error?
[13:35] <rafii> i have the similar problem, with fglrx after upgrade 10.10->11.04, system hang on 'checking battery state', and turn on fglrx drivers in gui tool, and work great :) i use PAE kernel
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  whats your video card/chipset?
[13:35] <magum_> Does sb here knows what keyboard config file, window managers such as fluxbox and Awesome are using?
[13:36] <nanomad> nishttal, thegoodcushion: PAE+closed source -> bad thing
[13:36] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, nvidia Quadro NVS 420
[13:36] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: On boot up I get a screen saying drivers gave an error
[13:36] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: tried all of those.  Trying either kde-full, kde-standard and kubuntu-desktop
[13:36] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: all give a long list of unmet dependencies which are all KDE apps and libraries
[13:36] <Vhozard> Hi, is there any torrent client for Ubuntu that can skip hash checking and can add multiple torrents at a time ?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  theres some bugs it seems with Unity and the twinview/multi monitor support. :(
[13:36] <Technium> That immediately solved the issue - its the i965 driver :) Didnt realise that was accelerated enough to run unity
[13:37] <nanomad> Technium, that's how i thought
[13:37] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i am not running unity
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  odd. and you did an apt-get update, and upgrade just a few min ago>
[13:37] <zyrorl> hey guys... i'm having an issue with 11.04... i can barely use it. it's sooooooooooooooooo slow. like constantly freezing, even in gnome safe mode
[13:37] <nanomad> Technium, you cannot use the nvidia card on linux
[13:37] <zyrorl> i had no problem at all with 10.10
[13:37] <nanomad> Technium, unless you play with vga_switcheroo
[13:37] <zyrorl> ultra fast etc.
[13:37] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, nanomad: is there a solution or do i have to roll back
[13:37] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: yes
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  what are you running then?
[13:37] <zyrorl> it seems to be because of the 2.6.38 kernel... if i try to boot using an older kernel its uber fast
[13:38] <zyrorl> does anyone else seem to have experienced this ?
[13:38] <nanomad> nishttal, back you should go
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  Not sure  what else to suggest. perhapas pastebin the error messages for the channel to look at.
[13:38] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i logged out and chose the Ubuntu classic from the login menu
[13:38] <kapu> Aginor: looked into using pax, but, after severl failed attempte I opted to go with the 'dip computer in vat of fuming sulfuric acid' approach
[13:38] <nanomad> nishttal, between us....unity is crap
[13:38] <alumnos_> hello
[13:38] <zyrorl> anyone...
[13:38] <nishttal> nanomad, but i am using Ubuntu classic (gnome)
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  could be its a deeper bug then just with unity then.  You have ran thenvidia-settings tool. enabled twinview and then restarted the X server?
[13:38] <adamJ> anyone able to help with a kde install problem and unmet dependencies on Ubuntu Natty?: not sure what you mean by pastebin
[13:39] <nanomad> nishttal, uh-oh then I must have mixed the answers...forget mine
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin | adamJ
[13:39] <Technium> Sorry lost networking for a sec. xdriinfo output is "Screen 0: i965"
[13:39] <adamJ> sorry for the double post
[13:39] <zyrorl> apparently not
[13:39] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: not sure what youy mean by pastebin
[13:39] <nanomad> Technium, you cannot use nvidia on linux
[13:39] <alumnos> pacoooo!!
[13:39] <alumnos__> a+
[13:39] <nanomad> Technium, with the intel card
[13:39] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: why are you saying that?
[13:39] <alumnos> illo
[13:39] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i have 3 monitors, 1 monitor on 1st xscreen and 2 monitors (with twinview) on 2nd x screen
[13:40] <alumnos> our mother are agrys
[13:40] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, nvidia+intel+how switching = nvidia driver not working
[13:40] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i had the same issue with 10.10 and then someone here made me run a window decorator and that fixed it
[13:40] <alumnos_> ijosedeputa
[13:40] <thegoodcushion> ok
[13:40] <alumnos__> chino godo
[13:40] <alumnos_> tu madre
[13:40] <rafii> zyrorl: you tried turn off "sync with Vblank" in compiz-config in OpenGL section?
[13:40] <Technium> Okay. Why isn't the i965 being configured by default when I install?
[13:40] <Pici> wii alumnos__
[13:40] <bazhang> alumnos_, english here
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  we had a disscussion here the other day on  nvidia and 3 monitors. :)  but i havent done 3 moniotors in ages.  Sounds like its a twinview+compiz deeper issue. perhaps disable compiz?
[13:40] <nanomad> Technium, maybe xorg is freaking out because he sees two cards
[13:41] <nanomad> Technium, u should try this: Technium, if you are
[13:41] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i dont think compiz is running
[13:41] <nanomad> Technium, this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[13:41] <rafii> zyrorl: and you can turn off "animations", gui will be faster
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  try alt-f2 'metacity --replace' and check perhaps.
[13:42] <Technium> Thanks for the link. I'm happy sticking with the i965, but I'm confused why that wasn't selected once I installed as it was when I booted the LiveCD.
[13:42] <perlsyntax> doesanyone know how i can what wireless card my dad has on ubuntu live cd?
[13:43] <nanomad> Technium, which model do you have exactly of laptop?
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i try the pci commands
[13:43] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: link to error http://pastebin.com/bA9ccb4M
[13:43] <nanomad> perlsyntax, lspci from terminal
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i did that
[13:43] <Technium> Dell Latitude 6520, new i7
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i see no wireless card.
[13:43] <nanomad> perlsyntax, output?
[13:43] <thegoodcushion> Okay, I just cannot get nvidia drivers working with PAE kernel
[13:43] <Technium> Sorry, E6520
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i don't have it online.
[13:44] <vanguard> I just enabled the compiz-cubes, I can drag winows around, but the windows in the taskbar are not refreshed anymore
[13:44] <perlsyntax> i think it broandcom wireless card.
[13:44] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i annot connect what shoukd I do
[13:45] <nanomad> perlsyntax, what's the problem? no drivers installed?
[13:45] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: adding all the depends gives the following: http://pastebin.com/8SPTPXBE
[13:45] <thegoodcushion> I wish there were an option to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit distro
[13:45] <deerfield> good morning all, I'm using 11.04 and IDE Aptana 2. I don't like Aptana and I'm looking for alternative. Any suggestions on something I can access my remote site with?
[13:45] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB wireless Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i annot connect what shoukd I do
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  you have done a 'sudo apt-get update' recently AND a sudo apt-get upgrade?
[13:45] <perlsyntax> the ubuntu cd work but the wireles card won't.
[13:45] <spacebug-> is there a package to uninstall or a config to make to always have scrollbars visible?
[13:45] <edbian> perlsyntax: Did you install Ubuntu yet?
[13:46] <sipior> thegoodcushion: if you have a separate home or data partition, a reinstall wouldn't take you very long.
[13:46] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: yes, from both synaptic and command line
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> spacebug-:  i saw a tweak to do that at the webupd8 blog site.
[13:46] <[4-tea-2]> Can Unity's dash search for anything but applications? If yes, how can I tell it where the stuff is that it refuses to go looking for?
[13:46] <thegoodcushion> sipior: Yeah I guess so
[13:46] <perlsyntax> no i just put in the live cd.
[13:46] <thegoodcushion> Well if I want to use all 4 gigs of RAM I have to
[13:46] <spacebug-> Dr_Willis: ok tnx, I'll look there
[13:46] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Network Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i annot connect what shoukd I do
[13:47] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, metacity replace fixes the issue
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> [4-tea-2]:  the files-and-folders lense has    file searxch feature it seems.
[13:47] <raju> BOBBY_:  i think u need to leave the password box as empty
[13:47] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:47] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, but i did not get the prompt back
[13:47] <root_> did any one have xchat(ubuntu) desktop-screenshot script?
[13:48] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis: no tracker/beagle like functionality anywhere?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  you dident use a & at the end. :)
[13:48] <botcity> BOBBY_, there must be a pop up with error message?
[13:48] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, and if i kill it, both screens go bad
[13:48] <BOBBY_> raju it asked for a security key not an access password
[13:48] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, do i have to do that everytime i login?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  try ctrl-z tjhen the bg command, then exit command.. DONT just hit the terminal close button
[13:48] <BOBBY_> No it just shows i bar signal then 2 then 3
[13:48] <raju> BOBBY_:  are u using kubuntu or ubuntu
[13:48] <BOBBY_> ubuntu
[13:48] <BOBBY_> 11.04
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  install fusion-icon  and check it to use metacity. but i think metacity --replace, should be rembered
[13:48] <perlsyntax> I not sure what to do.
[13:48] <root_> .
[13:49] <happolati> Anyone know why blackjack is no longer part of the gnome-games package?
[13:49] <raju> enter u r root password
[13:49] <perlsyntax> esbian,Is there any other way.
[13:49] <raju> BOBBY_: enter u r root pwd
[13:49] <edbian> perlsyntax: Have you installed Ubuntu?
[13:49] <BOBBY_> whats a root password
[13:49] <moi> hello room
[13:49] <[4-tea-2]> Hmmmm, the files and folder search only seems to know about selected documents - I guess that's what Zeitgeist does. I thought Zeitgeist was something like beagle.
[13:49] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, so i cant use compiz on this
[13:49] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, it was working great on 10.10
[13:49] <zombified> hello all
[13:50] <perlsyntax> edbian,i don't want to install ubuntu yet to i know what wireless card he has.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  I would have to wonder if your /etc/apt/sources.list is messed up. or somthing is missing to not show those packages.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  no idea. there may be some tweak.
[13:50] <edbian> perlsyntax: Who is 'he' ?
[13:50] <perlsyntax> my ad
[13:50] <perlsyntax> my dad all he want is the wirelesscard to work.
[13:50] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: I am wondering the same, generating a defaults one at the moment
[13:50] <edbian> perlsyntax: Do you know the chipset of the card?
[13:50] <zombified> anyone here know how to install .exe files on backtrack4?
[13:50] <perlsyntax> no i don't
[13:51] <bazhang> zombified, #backtrack-linux for bt4 support
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> zombified:  you run exes in wine. with wine.. :)
[13:51] <moi> i have a problem with my sound card i get no sound at all on my laptop and when i probe it could not detedt my sound card i use dv artist edition hp laptop
[13:51] <perlsyntax> i did a lspci with the live cd everything show up by the wireless card.
[13:51] <zombified> lol ok
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> zombified:  and see  the BT channel :)
[13:51] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:51] <raju> BOBBY_:  yaar u r sudo password
[13:51] <edbian> perlsyntax: Please start your sentences with my name like I"m doing for you.
[13:51] <edbian> perlsyntax: Is the kill switch on / off?  That would cause it not to show up in lspci.
[13:51] <Spiso> hey, I'm trying to set my screen refresh rate to 75Hz on Lucid 10.04
[13:51] <Spiso> there is no xorg.conf as I found out so I created one with
[13:52] <Spiso> Xorg -configure
[13:52] <Spiso> it did create it with SubSection "Display" Modes "1920x1080_75"
[13:52] <Spiso> it put the .xorg.conf into my home folder, so I copied it as xorg.conf to /etx/X11
[13:52] <FloodBot1> Spiso: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <Spiso> but it doesn't work still, the only options in Monitors=>Refresh rate is 60Hz
[13:52] <bazhang> raju, thats not correct. please stop suggesting that
[13:52] <BOBBY_> raju: ???
[13:52] <Blou_Aap> how do I configure the panels in 11.04 ?
[13:52] <perlsyntax> edbian,How do i do that?
[13:52] <bazhang> BOBBY_, use sudo , ignore raju
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Blou_Aap:  other t hen some tweaking . you dont configure unity a lot.
[13:52] <edbian> perlsyntax: Does the laptop have a physical wifi switch?  Do you know what I'm talking about?
[13:52] <moi> my name is moi i have a problem with my sound card i get no sound at all on my laptop and when i probe it could not detedt my sound card i use dv artist edition hp laptop
[13:52] <alkemann> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/774452   - is this fix available?
[13:53] <perlsyntax> i check
[13:53] <BOBBY_> bazhang :: whats sudo ???
[13:53] <raju> BOBBY_:  follow him ...genuinely i dont know  much about this , but i am trying thats it . dont mind yaar
[13:53] <Blou_Aap> Dr_Willis, but I have dual screen, dont want two panels
[13:53] <bazhang> !sudo | BOBBY_
[13:54] <alkemann> BOBBY_: su means super user and do means to do. sudo means do as super user
[13:54] <botcity> BOBBY_, i think its asking for your keyring password
[13:54] <Strav> Hi. I'm trying to mount an ext4 raid5 array as a samba share but I cannot seem to be able to get write permissions from the client side (sudo is needed for any write op). In smb.conf, the create mask is 0775, the share is browseable and writeable, the user I use to connect with is in the valid users as well as in the write list and the command I'm using to mount is sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=strav,password=mypassword,umask=000
[13:54] <Strav> //<IP_ADDRESS>/share /mnt. I tried chmoding 777 all of the mounted share, no success. Any advice?
[13:55] <perlsyntax> edbian,There a light by the side of the laptop.Could that be it
[13:55] <BOBBY_> botcity: No its security key
[13:55] <edbian> perlsyntax: Well I'm guessing a light would indicate that the card is on.
[13:55] <kapu> exit
[13:55] <edbian> perlsyntax: But that could be it.  What kind of laptop is this?
[13:55] <perlsyntax> edbian,HP
[13:55] <edbian> perlsyntax: hp what?
[13:55] <perlsyntax> laptop
[13:55] <BOBBY_> it says "authenticiation required by wireless network
[13:56] <edbian> perlsyntax: really...
[13:56] <BOBBY_> [13:47] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:56] <alkemann> how do i get something when pecl doesnt work on natty?
[13:56] <zamba> how do i install the windows codecs for mplayer in 11.04?
[13:56] <catphish> is it possible to change the default ethernet bonding mode in 10.04 server? i am having a lot of problems with the reliability of setting the bonding mode using the interfaces config file
[13:56] <bazhang> zamba, ubuntu-restricted-extras and w32codecs from medibuntu.org
[13:57] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Wireless Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:57] <bazhang> BOBBY_, its the wireless password; is this wep, wpa, wpa2 or what
[13:57] <zamba> bazhang: ok, let's try
[13:57] <raju> BOBBY_:  capture the screen shot and send to him ...he can understand better ...use print screen for that
[13:58] <perlsyntax> edian,HP Pavilon dv2125nr
[13:58] <BOBBY_> bazhang:WPA2
[13:58] <edbian> perlsyntax: Typo on my name bro
[13:58] <bazhang> BOBBY_, enter the wpa2 password then
[13:58] <BOBBY_> I entered the password
[13:59] <BOBBY_> It still shows the flashing indicator
[13:59] <bazhang> BOBBY_, be sure you typed it correctly, disable keyboard repeat in keyboard settings
[13:59] <BOBBY_> OK
[13:59] <perlsyntax> edbian,Here what i found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=334992
[14:00] <Cerdabr> is there a chatroom for wine ??
[14:00] <LjL> Cerdabr: #winehq
[14:00] <Cerdabr> LjL: ty
[14:01] <perlsyntax> edbian,Look like it broadcom driver
[14:01] <[4-tea-2]> I'm using Firefox 4 (mozillateam-PPA) and lost flash audio since upgrading from maverick to natty (which reintroduced pulseaudio to my system). Is there a standard workaround for flash + pulse or is it just supposed to work?
[14:01] <edbian> perlsyntax: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[14:01] <BOBBY_> bazhang: IT WORKS
[14:01] <bazhang> BOBBY_, good news then
[14:02] <BOBBY_> Thanks Thanks Thanks Thanks Thanks
[14:02] <edbian> bazhang: I hate when they're so surprised!  Don't they have any faith at all?
[14:02] <bazhang> edbian, heh
[14:02] <zamba> how do i automatically roll out a printer driver using ubuntu and cups?
[14:02] <BOBBY_> Now to get bluetooth working
[14:02] <zamba> this will be for windows machines
[14:03] <bazhang> zamba, whats the printer, check linuxprinting.org database
[14:03] <cyoz> hmm any way to keep a symbol to a folder on the unity bar?
[14:03] <gare> good morning!!  so .. This link is dead for http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt  for ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent  .  IS there a netbook edition any longer?  (Thank you for any help.)
[14:03] <sim-value> Does unity work w/o 3D accell ?
[14:03] <zamba> bazhang: it's supported there, yeah
[14:03] <zamba> bazhang: xerox workcentre
[14:03] <himcesjf> Can anyone help me configure vmpk
[14:03] <himcesjf> !info vmpk
[14:03] <vega> gare: no there isn't, it's the same as normal ubuntu
[14:04] <bazhang> sim-value, unity-2d is the package you'd want for that
[14:04] <gare> cool vega.  Thanks.  so perhaps someone will remove that link from page.
[14:04] <edbian> perlsyntax: You'll have to be connected to the Internet in some other way of course
[14:05] <sim-value> bazhang, so a standard install of natty will suceed and not give errors
[14:05] <perlsyntax> edbian,Eth0 works in linux:)
[14:05] <edbian> perlsyntax: Well there ya go :)
[14:05] <alkemann> how do i get the recent pecl fix?
[14:05] <bazhang> sim-value, if you dont have the card gnome classic should be default, if you want the unity look without 3d accell then install the unity-2d package
[14:06] <perlsyntax> edbian,All i need to install is firmware b43-installer?
[14:06] <sim-value> bazhang thanks!
[14:06] <Technium> I think I need to enable the i965 drivers to enable Unity on this laptop can't figure out how
[14:06] <Vhozard> Hi, is there any torrent client for Ubuntu that can skip hash checking and can add multiple torrents at a time ?
[14:06] <edbian> perlsyntax: I believe so yes.
[14:06] <bazhang> Technium, for an nvidia card?
[14:06] <Technium> No, there's both in here and the LiveCD works with Unity using the i965 driver
[14:07] <perlsyntax> edbian,That in the apt-get and thanksor the help.
[14:07] <edbian> perlsyntax: Well do it and make sure it works! :D
[14:07] <bazhang> Technium, whats the card
[14:07] <Technium> Its a laptop so not sure exactly
[14:08] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: KDE now installing.  Not really sure what was wrong with my repository list, but a reset to the defauls has resolved the issue.  Strange as it was just the one left by the install anyway
[14:08] <bazhang> Technium, lspci to paste.ubuntu.com (from the terminal)
[14:09] <Technium> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602759/
[14:09] <perlsyntax> edbian,i praying for it to work.
[14:10] <edbian> perlsyntax: Did you install it using that command?  Did that command give any errors?
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  weirdness. :)
[14:10] <himcesjf> Can anyone help me configure vmpk?
[14:10] <himcesjf> !info vmpk
[14:12] <Technium> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602759/
[14:13] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1726575 Technium there's a PPA for that, also see if you can disable Optimus in the bios
[14:14] <Technium> bazhang: thanks, i'll look into that
[14:14] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-x-swat?dist=natty  Technium this is the PPA
[14:14] <ericP> after upgrading to 11.04, how do i set e.g. the layout of virtual desktops?
[14:15] <ericP> my familiar compiz environment has been replaced by something that looks like a darwin desktop
[14:15] <andeeeuk> does anyone know how to remove history in 11.04?
[14:15] <andeeeuk> and not keep folder history?
[14:16] <andeeeuk> the menu shows files and folders and i dont want to show all my history
[14:16] <Technium> bazhang, id be happy sticking with the intel driver as that seemed to work fine on the LiveCD and I don't tend to need 3d... is that easier?
[14:18] <vivid> is there a fix for grub/plymouth with nvidia on 11.04?  grub is stuck in fail mode and wont autoboot and plymouth is a black screen
[14:19] <spacebug-> Dr_Willis: tnx I found many things I wanted on that site
[14:19] <Wipster> Hi all, recently since upgrading my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 (Xserver 1.10.1) I am getting some X crashes and restarts surrounding web browsing (coincidence perhaps) here is a copy of my Xorg.0.log.old from the backtrace: http://pastebin.com/Jyr9WXhp
[14:19] <gare> What are odds that 11.04 unity will not run on my original 9" Dell Mini ? ..   :)
[14:20] <bazhang> Technium, well if you want gnome-classic choose that from the login window, if you want non3d unity install the unity-2d package and select that at login window
[14:20] <andeeeuk> Is there a way to clear history in 11.04?
[14:21] <Technium> bazhang - I had Unity working on LiveCD without doing anything - it used the i965
[14:21] <g3orge> why 04 and 10 versions??
[14:21] <g3orge> why not .01 .02 .03 etc
[14:21] <g3orge> ???
[14:21] <Technium> bazhang - I'd like to get that working now I've installed
[14:21] <mstef> anyone else experiencing tons of problems with dual screen? i was hoping it would be fixed in 11.04. seems much worse, especially with unity.
[14:21] <vivid> mstef, yes
[14:22] <vivid> second screen has no window manager for me and is unusable
[14:22] <gare> g3eorge:  named after Year:Month of release so 11.04
[14:22] <gare> g3orge:  named after Year:Month of release so 11.04
[14:22] <Abhijit> hi
[14:22] <dp> is there a way to see *when* a package was installed?
[14:22] <andeeeuk> has anyone been able to clear there history from the menu? something quite simple but cant find where to do it?
[14:22] <trap24> for the 1st time as I login, its 1720 users, ubuntu rockin' at peak today
[14:22] <mstef> vivid: yea.. i'm getting 8 workspaces now..and windows are being sent to each of them automatically.. maximized windows get cut off and you can't see the top of them, etc
[14:22] <mstef> ah