[08:15] <zezu> or wxGTK
[08:15] <Amaranth> ubuntu has that
[08:15] <zezu> i know
[08:15] <HappyFool> zezu: do you have x-window-system-dev ?
[08:15] <zezu> guess i could just get the samples
[08:15] <holycow> man oh man
[08:15] <zezu> probably not
[08:15] <holycow> i haveto remove the flash plugin from epiphany and moz browsers
[08:15] <HappyFool> zezu: although i thought build-dep would get all that for you
[08:15] <holycow> it sucks beyond bad
[08:15] <zezu> i'm not at all familiar with the packages
[08:16] <Belutz> Amaranth, yup, it runs via terminal
[08:16] <nalioth> HappyFool: build-essentials gets you the "Bare" essential
[08:16] <zezu> i've developed very little for *nix and it was console based
[08:16] <HappyFool> nalioth: 'build-dep', not 'build-essential'
[08:16] <Amaranth> Belutz: odd
[08:16] <nalioth> HappyFool: build-dep is kinda lacking, too
[08:16] <HappyFool> ah
[08:16] <zezu> HappyFool, that was also for the GTK package, maybe it doesn't need those libs ?
[08:17] <HappyFool> i've had reasonable success with it
[08:17] <Amaranth> Belutz: now that you've started it from the terminal, pull up the properties of the menu item and see what command it's running
[08:17] <HappyFool> zezu: oh well, install the 'x-window-system-dev' package
[08:17] <fatehaze> when i boot up ubuntu and log in, i just get a blank screen
[08:17] <HappyFool> zezu: gets you everything for X (except some very obscure X libs)
[08:17] <fatehaze> a blank brown screen
[08:17] <Belutz> Amaranth, smeg
[08:17] <nalioth> ubotu is missing, dangit
[08:17] <fatehaze> i can move the mouse and i still hear the startup sound
[08:17] <HappyFool> he's gone awol
[08:18] <Amaranth> Belutz: then it should work fine...
[08:18] <nalioth> zezu: install xlibs-dev, xlibs-static-dev and x-windows-system-dev
[08:18] <Belutz> Amaranth, but i can only run it from terminal using sudo smeg
[08:18] <fatehaze> if i log in with a terminal-only session, i still get the blank screen, but with a little console at the bottom
[08:18] <Amaranth> Belutz: d'oh
[08:18] <fatehaze> that's how i got xchat up
[08:18] <Amaranth> Belutz: Don't Do That
[08:18] <fatehaze> any ideas?
[08:18] <Amaranth> Belutz: what do you get if you run it as you?
[08:18] <zezu> am i better off using the wxX11 or wxGTK ?
[08:19] <Belutz> Amaranth, it displays errors, you want me to paste it in the pastebin?
[08:19] <Amaranth> yeah
[08:19] <Belutz> ok
[08:19] <Corrupter> whats a great image editting program for Ubuntu?
[08:19] <zezu> i will not be building packages for different distros, so i'd like my binaries to be as compatible as possible with all distros
[08:19] <fatehaze> it's always worked fine before and nothing has changed... except that i just get a blank screen now, of course
[08:19] <Amaranth> Corrupter: gimp
[08:19] <fatehaze> can anyone help me out?
[08:19] <zezu> until source code is able to be released anyways
[08:20] <Corrupter> i mean high end image editting
[08:20] <fatehaze> i'm using gnome, by the way
[08:20] <Amaranth> fatehaze: In that terminal-only session run `gnome-session` and see what happens
[08:20] <Amaranth> Corrupter: Not sure what you mean.
[08:20] <fatehaze> k
[08:20] <Belutz> Amaranth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5111
[08:20] <fatehaze> gotta close xchat for that
[08:20] <cenopec> if you run linux can someone access your harddrive from outside your computer
[08:20] <HappyFool> zezu: i suspect the wxWidgets hackers will better be able to answer that. is there a wxX11 ?
[08:20] <zezu> yes
[08:21] <Belutz> cenopec, yes, if you share it
[08:21] <zezu> and a wxGTK
[08:21] <Corrupter> awesomely good image editting, lol
[08:21] <thechitowncubs> hey
[08:21] <Amaranth> Belutz: sudo chmod 644 /usr/share/applications/netbeans4.1.desktop
[08:21] <zezu> i've asked in #wxWidgets but its been quiet for about an hour
[08:21] <nalioth> i wish those script kiddies would make up their minds
[08:21] <HappyFool> zezu: i can only obviously see wxgtk in ubuntu, fwiw
[08:21] <zezu> i figured someone might have a compelling reason to use one of the other
[08:22] <Belutz> Amaranth, that solved the problem. thanks :)
[08:22] <zezu> i'm not familiar w/ fwiw, what does it mean? ;)
[08:22] <nalioth> zezu: for what it's worth
[08:22] <HappyFool> for what it's worth
[08:22] <cenopec> if i just logged onto my computer and the trash was open and i dont remeber opening it, could someone of done that
[08:22] <fatehaze> ok, nothing happens when i run gnome-session
[08:22] <zezu> nice, never heard that one before
[08:22] <cenopec> assuming no one in my house did it
[08:22] <fatehaze> except for some console text and the startup sound plays again
[08:22] <Amaranth> what text?
[08:22] <HappyFool> i can see a wxVLC, which seems weird
[08:23] <fatehaze> er, how do I pm again?
[08:23] <zezu> HappyFool, its not in the repos that i saw
[08:23] <Amaranth> fatehaze: don't pm it to me, pastebin it
[08:23] <zezu> i downloaded it from the website
[08:23] <fatehaze> It's about a paragraph
[08:23] <HappyFool> ah
[08:24] <zezu> in tarball format
[08:24] <fatehaze> Pastebin, you say?
[08:24] <HappyFool> build-dep only works for stuff in the repos
[08:24] <zezu> no i didn't try to do a build-dep on it
[08:24] <Amaranth> !paste
[08:24] <fatehaze> !paste
[08:24] <Amaranth> oh, no bot
[08:24] <zezu> i did for the gtk since i saw it was there and you suggested it
[08:24] <nalioth> paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:25] <fatehaze> As in ctrl+v?  I don't wanna spam the channel
[08:25] <HappyFool> no
[08:25] <HappyFool> not ctl+v ;)
[08:25] <nalioth>  fatehaze paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:25] <fatehaze> i can't open websites
[08:25] <fatehaze> i'd be happy to if i could
[08:25] <HappyFool> ah
[08:26] <logical_mark> How do I rename a drive?
[08:26] <nalioth> fatehaze: then join #flood
[08:26] <Bourla> k
[08:26] <zezu> hmm, kpdf really needs some AA
[08:26] <nasimuto> Is there a keypress combination in gnome to launch terminal?
[08:27] <fatehaze> Actually, nevermind, i can't copy terminal text
[08:27] <robotgeek> nasimuto: System _> Prefs -> Keyb Shortcuts
[08:27] <nasimuto> robotgeek: my livecd didnt boot any menus
[08:27] <fatehaze> this is a difficult situation
[08:27] <nasimuto> its just a desktop
[08:28] <nasimuto> alternatevily: whats the command for terminal ?
[08:28] <robotgeek> nasimuto: try alt + f2
[08:28] <logical_mark> Hey anybody? How do I rename a drive as it appears under computer
[08:28] <robotgeek> in that, type gnome-terminal
[08:28] <nasimuto> robotgeek: didnt work :(
[08:29] <robotgeek> nasimuto: ctrl + alt + f1/f2 will give you a different terminal
[08:29] <fatehaze> are there any recovery options i can pursue without the original cd?
[08:29] <BigKahuna> what is the Linux equivalent to Quicken or MS Money?
[08:29] <BigKahuna> is there one?
[08:29] <nalioth> BigKahuna: gnucash
[08:29] <fatehaze> i'm at work right now, all i have is a net connection, small terminal, and a baffling blank screen behind it
[08:29] <nasimuto> robotgeek: that made my screen go blank
[08:29] <BigKahuna> nalioth, Cheers pal.
[08:30] <robotgeek> BigKahuna: tho, that doesn't connect to banks. it can import csv statements
[08:30] <robotgeek> nasimuto: ctl + alt + f7
[08:30] <nasimuto> my desktop is back :D
[08:31] <mcadory> fatehaze: ps aux|grep gnome
[08:31] <nasimuto> its blank again, ill just restart and hope this time it loads the menus
[08:39] <mrkoje> anyone active right now?
[08:39] <robotgeek> mrkoje: do u have a question?
[08:39] <mcadory> kinda
[08:39] <mrkoje> robotgeek: no not really. I like to look at others questions to learn
[08:39] <robotgeek> mrkoje: hmm, okay.
[08:39] <mrkoje> robotgeek: and maybe help if I know about it
[08:40] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[08:40] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[08:40] <robotgeek> yay!
[08:40] <Madpilot> cool, the bot is back, we can all function again! ;)
[08:40] <robotgeek> ubotu: botsnack
[08:40] <ubotu> thanks robotgeek :)
[08:40] <nasimuto> !bootdisk
[08:40] <mrkoje> its just this channel is usually pretty active... even at 2-3am
[08:40] <ubotu> nasimuto: Wish i knew
[08:40] <nasimuto> mrkoje: 2-3am in what GMT ?
[08:40] <nalioth> Madpilot: you mean you dont have all the factoid memorized?
[08:40] <mrkoje> CST
[08:40] <robotgeek> mrkoje: it's saturday
[08:40] <nasimuto> mrkoje: thats GMT-8 ?
[08:41] <Amaranth> -6
[08:41] <mcadory> !talk
[08:41] <ubotu> mcadory: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:41] <mrkoje> ya I think so
[08:41] <nasimuto> im in GMT+2
[08:41] <mcadory> !talkd
[08:41] <ubotu> mcadory: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:41] <Madpilot> nalioth: nope, but I've got far too many of the !tells memorized ;)
[08:41] <mrkoje> oh wow
[08:41] <nasimuto> its morning here :)
[08:41] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mcadory about ubotu
[08:42] <mcadory> nasimuto: in gmt -6
[08:42] <nasimuto> muaha
[08:43] <mcadory> robotgeek: just looked at the wiki.  trying some random stuff
[08:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have removed oggenc that i installed, and i'm using the package version now.  so why, when i type oggenc, does it say it can't be found at /usr/local/bin/ when "which" clearly shows it is in /usr/bin ?
[08:44] <robotgeek> mcadory: just be sure you use /msg ubotu factoid
[08:44] <mcadory> thanks.
[08:44] <mrkoje> BROKEN_LADDER: symbolic link?
[08:45] <zezu> why are directories with a '.' before the name not visible to the windowing system ?
[08:45] <zezu> like my trash isn't visible, how do i empty it ?
[08:45] <robotgeek> zezu: cause they denoted hidden files
[08:45] <mrkoje> zezu: hidden files
[08:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> mrkoje no no
[08:45] <robotgeek> zezu: type ctrl+h
[08:45] <zezu> hmm
[08:45] <zezu> thx
[08:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> mrkoje /usr/bin/oggenc is there.  /usr/local/bin/oggenc is not.  but i'm typing oggenc, and it's saying it can't be found at /usr/local/bin/oggenc
[08:46] <nalioth> MacVegie: you need to be registered to talk to ubotu
[08:46] <mcadory> zezu: when a directory is listed in a *nix, any files like .* are not listed unless you ask, eg ls -a (list all)
[08:47] <mrkoje> BROKEN_LADDER: instead of just typing oggenc have you tried typing "/usr/bin/oggenc"
[08:47] <zezu> ok
[08:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> mrkoje sure.  that works
[08:48] <mcadory> BROKEN_LADDER: is /usr/bin in your $PATH
[08:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> yes
[08:48] <mrkoje> BROKEN_LADDER: then wouldn't that be a symbolic link problem?
[08:49] <mrkoje> Im just trying to learn here...
[08:49] <comfort> hell
[08:50] <mrkoje> mcadory: what are you talking about $PATH
[08:51] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: have you rehashed your $PATH ?
[08:51] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell zezu about cli
[08:51] <mcadory> mrkoje: in a terminal type: echo $PATH
[08:52] <mcadory> naolith: i am registered with nickserv.  where else should i register?
[08:52] <nalioth> mcadory: if you are registered, you need to identify
[08:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> mrkoje this has nothing to do with a symlink
[08:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> rehashed crimsun ?
[08:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun i have not purposely changed anything to do with my path
[08:53] <mrkoje> ok cool
[08:53] <mcadory> naolith: thanks.  think i typo'd on start up.
[08:54] <fangorious> is the breezy dvd a live dvd, install dvd, or both?
[08:54] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: strace it
[08:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun i have installed oggenc from source and uninstalled the apt-get version, and vice versa, trying to find out why oggenc is suddenly producing bad files that sound like crap
[08:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> strace oggenc?
[08:54] <crimsun> yes
[08:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> if i strace it, it works fine
[08:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> bizarre
[08:55] <zezu> well thx guys, i'm off to bed, ttyl
[08:55] <crimsun> fangorious: both.
[08:55] <fangorious> crimsun: lovely, thanks
[08:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun does the strace tell you anything or would you like to see the output pasted into the channel?
[08:57] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: please don't paste here, it's quite a bit of output
[08:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> i was kidding
[08:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> but do you want to see a pastebin of it, or is it enough to know that it works when i use strace?
[08:57] <crimsun> pastebin is fine
[08:59] <nasimuto> whats the command for getting terminal in gnome, when i add it to a desktop shortcut ?
[08:59] <Pablo> o.O
[08:59] <krak`nix> where can i find asound.conf ?
[08:59] <krak`nix> i dont see one in /etc
[08:59] <crimsun> krak`nix: we don't create one by default, nor should you
[08:59] <HappyFool> nasimuto: gnome-terminal
[08:59] <rraajj> nasimuto: gnome-terminal
[09:00] <krak`nix> :o
[09:00] <rraajj> w00t.
[09:00] <nasimuto> thx
[09:00] <Pablo> m00t
[09:00] <krak`nix> what do i need to edit to get alsa-oss working then?
[09:00] <crimsun> krak`nix: nothing. You just need to install alsa-oss.
[09:01] <krak`nix> ok well ive done that
[09:01] <krak`nix> now in quake 4, should i keep s_driver set to oss?
[09:01] <crimsun> no, you should use the ALSA one if id made one.
[09:01] <mcadory> thanks g'night
[09:02] <krak`nix> well ive tried s_driver alsa, and while the sound works.. it echoes or something
[09:02] <krak`nix> sounds very bad
[09:02] <Corrupter> how well do wireless linksys NICs work?
[09:02] <crimsun> krak`nix: specify a device explicitly, like plughw:0,0
[09:03] <krak`nix> ohh
[09:03] <crimsun> krak`nix: you'll need to consult the q4 Linux documentation for the precise syntax
[09:03] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Corrupter about wireless
[09:03] <krak`nix> so that actually is a command? :o
[09:03] <krak`nix> i set s_alsa_pcm to something
[09:03] <krak`nix> and it told me to try plughw:0
[09:03] <krak`nix> sec ill try that
[09:05] <nasimuto> mister_roboto: nasimuto: fdisk -l /dev/hda shows nothing? <- it shows hda with all its parts :D
[09:05] <krak`nix> hmm nope, still is very choppy
[09:05] <krak`nix> quake4 +set s_driver alsa +set s_alsa_pcm plughw:0,0 +set s_numberofspeakers 2
[09:06] <crimsun> krak`nix: what were you using prior to plughw:0,0 ?
[09:07] <krak`nix> quake4 +set s_driver oss +set s_numberOfSpeakers 2 +disconnect
[09:07] <drcode> any one know about mail/calender/tasks like evolution but other that also support encoding?
[09:07] <crimsun> krak`nix: what about hw:0,0 ?
[09:07] <krak`nix> im trying to get alsa to work so music and quake4 would in theory be able to play at the same time
[09:08] <_carsten> carsten: please stay away from that nickname, it is mine
[09:08] <crimsun> krak`nix: probably not going to have much luck there, but I can't confirm since I don't own a copy of q4
[09:09] <Madpilot> _carsten: if you've got the other nick registered, you can boot the squatter - /msg nickserv help
[09:09] <intelikey> hmmmm doing  'rm Desktop ;ln -s /dev/null Desktop '  seems to have generated the desired effect. it stoped all that automatic crap from apearing on the main gui screen.....
[09:09] <carsten> Madpilot: yeah, I just did that
[09:09] <drcode> any one know about mail/calender/tasks like evolution but other that also support encoding?
[09:09] <krak`nix> http://sial.org/pbot/14577
[09:09] <carsten> Madpilot: but I wanted to tell that guy beforehand to simply not use it :)
[09:10] <krak`nix> thats with hw:0,0
[09:10] <HappyFool> intelikey: novel
[09:10] <umarmung> hi, the wiki says 'press Alt+SysRq+1' on Howto debug system crash. What key is SysRq?
[09:10] <intelikey> :)
[09:10] <nmsa> question in regards to a tvtuner card bttv: how do I know what card number to load with modprobe ?
[09:11] <intelikey> HappyFool yeah i'm full of little tricks like that  :)
[09:11] <crimsun> krak`nix: ok, try hw:0 then
[09:12] <bobcat> hey everyone!  Does anyone know how to add the gdesklets to the startup (what is the startup command)???
[09:12] <intelikey> oh but i left out the -rf  from that rm command....
[09:12] <umarmung> bobcat: in case you run gnome, simply save your session when you log out and gdesklets are still running
[09:14] <intelikey> umarmung sysrq is shared with printscreen
[09:14] <robotgeek> bobcat: you just type 'gnome-session-save'
[09:14] <robotgeek> bobcat: no need to logout
[09:14] <bobcat> thanks umarmung, i will give that a try
[09:14] <bobcat> thanks robotgeek
[09:14] <umarmung> intelikey: oh, so alt+print screen+1? thank your
[09:14] <umarmung> -r
[09:14] <krak`nix> same thing
[09:15] <krak`nix> plughw:0,0 worked, i got sound it was just choppy
[09:15] <krak`nix> do you know anything about libasound.so.2?
[09:15] <crimsun> krak`nix: yes, what do you need?
[09:15] <krak`nix> that is the other alsa setting in q4, s_alsa_lib libasound.so.2
[09:15] <krak`nix> i saw on a forum a guy changed it to .so.0
[09:15] <krak`nix> i tried that but it said it didnt exist :o
[09:16] <crimsun> krak`nix: don't do that
[09:16] <crimsun> krak`nix: that's the soname, and it doesn't exist because @2@ is the version in the alsa-lib that we ship
[09:17] <crimsun> krak`nix: pastebin the output from ''cat /proc/asound/devices''
[09:17] <krak`nix> sure 1 sec
[09:18] <krak`nix> http://sial.org/pbot/14578
[09:18] <ilba7r> what was the command to list the hardware. I need to know what modem is on a pc?
[09:18] <intelikey> lspci
[09:18] <crimsun> krak`nix: cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:18] <ilba7r> thanx intelikey
[09:19] <krak`nix> 0 [SI7012         ] : ICH - SiS SI7012
[09:19] <krak`nix>                      SiS SI7012 with CMI9761 at 0xdc00, irq 18
[09:19] <crimsun> krak`nix: what type of audio abberations do you hear?
[09:20] <krak`nix> the sound continually stutters and sort of builds up like reverb?
[09:20] <intelikey> nice error
[09:20] <crimsun> krak`nix: is there a parameter for specifying the buffer or period size?
[09:21] <crimsun> krak`nix: brb, need to restart wpa_supplicant
[09:21] <krak`nix> k, ill search for one in the mean time
[09:21] <obe1> anyone know of any issues with gdb and compiling with -g3 on amd64, if i attempt anything simple like, > print main or > break main, gdb segfaults.., if i compile with -g, it works. happens on 5.10 and FC4
[09:23] <intelikey> i don't know anything about such, but did you search the buglist ?
[09:23] <obe1> ubuntu's bug list?
[09:23] <intelikey> if someone hasn't filed a bug report on it you should.
[09:23] <crimsun> obe1: what about -Os or -O2?
[09:23] <obe1> i am been using -O0
[09:24] <_Dom_> hello all
[09:25] <obe1> both -g3 -Os and -g3 -O2, segfault gdb just like -g3 -O0
[09:25] <_Dom_> is there an easy to follow guide on how to get wireless working on a laptop with ubuntu
[09:25] <intelikey> !wireless
[09:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:25] <krak`nix> crimsun: http://sial.org/pbot/14579
[09:25] <krak`nix> when you are back :)(
[09:25] <tim_> hey everyone!
[09:26] <jackie> hi
[09:26] <tim_> I just got a bunch of Ubuntu CD's for free
[09:26] <tim_> I installed it
[09:26] <tim_> it so rocks!
[09:26] <ilba7r> anyone know where i can download the scanmodem package for soft modems?
[09:27] <tim_> wouldnot have a clue m8
[09:27] <crimsun> krak`nix: are there any posts in the Linux q4 forums?
[09:27] <intelikey> check http://winmodem.com
[09:27] <intelikey> or is it .org  i don't remember....
[09:28] <ilba7r> i am there now
[09:28] <krak`nix> a few, ive been poking around linux gamers.net
[09:28] <krak`nix> havent come across anything that works yet :l
[09:28] <ilba7r> i just forgot where i put it. Basically it is for a friend thanx intelikey
[09:28] <nasimuto> What is the best desktop manager for a HP laptop w\ 600 MHz, 64 MB ram & 4 MB vid ? XDM, KDM, GDM, X3DM or WDM ? - I'd like to run XFCE with it.
[09:29] <intelikey> i'd say xdm  but i also wouldn't run a dm on that, i'd just use 'startx'
[09:29] <krak`nix> "Installed openal using the package manager in Yast, edited the cfg file (as root) with a text editor to say libasound.so.0 instead of libasound.so.2 I don't know if it's necessary to change the "advanced audio settings" to "openal" - mine say "default"). And it works."
[09:29] <krak`nix> ;(
[09:29] <_Dom_> ok that page says my wireless card needs  Requires the atmel-firmware package
[09:29] <nalioth_zZz> night all
[09:30] <krak`nix> crimsun: what do you think of this
[09:30] <krak`nix> create the following symbolic link: ln -s /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0 /usr/lib/libasound.so.0
[09:30] <_Dom_> anyone know where i can get this package
[09:30] <_Dom_> im a linux newbie that just wants to get away from the windows world:)
[09:31] <crimsun> krak`nix: absolutely not
[09:31] <krak`nix> :o
[09:31] <intelikey> !info atmel-firmware
[09:31] <crimsun> krak`nix: openal is library and is completely different from alsa-lib
[09:31] <ubotu> atmel-firmware: (Contains the firmware images for atmel wifi cards), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 422 kB, Installed size: 816 kB
[09:31] <crimsun> s/is library/is a library/g
[09:31] <foobar> I fucked up big time and im wondering if the livecd is loaded into memory so i can take it out and burn an installation disc while running the livecd ... =/
[09:32] <intelikey> _Dom_ that says it is in multiverse repo
[09:32] <intelikey> !tell _Dom_ about repos
[09:32] <Madpilot> foobar: I don't think it'll let you open the CDROM drive
[09:32] <foobar> uh oh...
[09:33] <foobar> well.. at least i backed up /some/ stuff on a separate partition... *sigh
[09:33] <_Dom_> ok im off to work now ill have to look at this tonight :) thanks for your help
[09:33] <intelikey> foobar you loaded all into ram ?    try 'sudo eject ' and see if it will.
[09:34] <obe1> seems to be a gcc problem
[09:34] <obe1> generating wrong file numbers on amd64
[09:34] <obe1> in the debugging info
[09:34] <obe1> oh well
[09:34] <foobar> intelikey: no, I havnt, I was wondering if I would be able to though
[09:35] <obe1> that will take like 10 yrs to come up the patch path..
[09:35] <nEmiSH> is there anything needed for tun0 support?
[09:35] <intelikey> foobar i haven't tested to see.   you can test it.
[09:35] <nasimuto> intelikey: what advantages does XDM have, when compared to i.e GDM ?
[09:35] <b_e_n_z> i see /sbin/mkfs.reiser4... does ubuntu 5.10 support reiser4?
[09:36] <intelikey> a little lighter
[09:36] <intelikey> b_e_n_z y shore
[09:37] <giany911> does any1 know where wine makes his fake c: partition ?
[09:37] <jackie> rtfm
[09:37] <b_e_n_z> intelikey, you mean reiser4 support is in the kernel?
[09:37] <intelikey> well b_e_n_z modules yes
[09:38] <giany911>  does any1 know where wine makes his fake c: partition ?
[09:38] <nasimuto> How to mount a corrupt ext3 filesystem to get my old etc data backed up?
[09:38] <Centaur5> giany911: Should be in the home folder under .wine
[09:38] <giany911> centaur its not in home
[09:38] <intelikey> not static in the kernel as in can boot without an initrd or anything like that b_e_n_z
[09:38] <duderiffic> pulling my hair out on some wifi stuff (never set up wireless on linux before)
[09:39] <Madpilot> giany911: Ctrl+H to show hidden files like .wine
[09:39] <Centaur5> giany911: Show hidden folders and .wine should be in there
[09:39] <duderiffic> pcmcia card has an atheros chipset, and it seems as though people have had luck with it before
[09:39] <giany911> ty
[09:39] <Madpilot> !wireless
[09:39] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:39] <Madpilot> duderiffic: ^^^
[09:39] <duderiffic> even as far as saying ubuntu 'auto-detects' it
[09:39] <duderiffic> yeah, it's supported
[09:39] <b_e_n_z> intelikey, no it's not there... find /lib/modules -name 'reiser*' -print... no reiser4
[09:41] <intelikey> !reiserfs
[09:41] <ubotu> [reiserfs]  a journalling file system - In benchmarks it seems to be faster then other default file systems.
[09:41] <intelikey> hmmm not much on it is there.
[09:42] <Corrupter> alright, i just installed Opera, but it isn't showing up in my Internet menu
[09:44] <Corrupter> any idea's?
[09:45] <umarmung> Corrupter: opera doesnt add itself to the menu
[09:45] <umarmung> Corrupter: try running opera from a terminal
[09:45] <Corrupter> i have
[09:45] <Corrupter> how can i add it?
[09:46] <bigfoot1> how do i play flv files?
[09:46] <umarmung> Corrupter: in gnome, right click the menu on the panel and select edit menu
[09:48] <Madpilot> Corrupter: the Opera on Ubuntu page of the wiki gives one way to add an entry to your menu
[09:48] <Madpilot> I should update that to include Breezy/Smeg menu editing information, actually
[09:55] <Fear_cult> anyone know how to create that spiffy eyecandy ubuntu uses when loading the kernel modules and whatnot during boot?
[09:56] <yksihw> what do i change in my apt sources to install bitchx,php etc.
[09:56] <yksihw> phpbb even*
[09:57] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell yksihw about repos
[09:57] <Fear_cult> prolly needa add a debian source deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free next line is deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free not sure tho
[09:57] <concept10> Fear_cult, huh?
[09:58] <concept10> yksihw, use universe
[09:58] <yksihw> cheers
[09:58] <jirwin_> hello all
[09:58] <yksihw> ill give it ago now.
[09:58] <jrsims> hey, how can I see what modules and servers are set to load at boot time?
[09:58] <raphink> Fear_cult: the packages are not to be smoked
[09:58] <jirwin_> I just installed breezy on my new laptop, and out of the box, X fails to start
[09:59] <jirwin_> I really have no idea where to start
[09:59] <mrkoje> jrsims  you can use  bum
[09:59] <mrkoje> i think
[09:59] <jirwin_> my video card is ATI Radeon X200M
[09:59] <jrsims> mrkoje: what's that? is that on all distros?
[09:59] <mrkoje> boot up manager
[09:59] <mrkoje> or somthing like that
[09:59] <nasimuto> How much swap space does a HP laptop w\ 600 MHz, 64 MB ram & 4 MB vid need ?
[09:59] <mrkoje> thats a gui
[09:59] <Fear_cult> raphink, what you mean smoke the packages
[09:59] <jrsims> mrkoje: how about command line?
[09:59] <mrkoje> Im thinking what is like chkconfig for ubuntu
[09:59] <intelikey> !tell jirwin_ about ati
[09:59] <yksihw> im gettting W: Couldn't stat source package list
[10:00] <crimsun> nasimuto: at least 256 MB of swap
[10:00] <mrkoje> jrsims: I think maybe   rc-update
[10:00] <mrkoje> i am not sure... if that is it
[10:00] <mrkoje> somthing like that
[10:00] <Fear_cult> yksihw, apt-get update
[10:00] <crimsun> nasimuto: a system with 64 MB of RAM is going to suffer under GNOME
[10:00] <visor> hi guys, how you doing?
[10:00] <nasimuto> crimsun: i know, i use xfce
[10:00] <jrsims> mrkoje: doesn't seem to be working on mine
[10:00] <mrkoje> jrsims:  update-rc.d
[10:01] <crimsun> nasimuto: you might even want to go slimmer, like pwm
[10:01] <ZiX> hi.
[10:01] <visor> anybody here has a ECS a535 laptop?
[10:01] <nasimuto> crimsun: ill take that into consideration, thx
[10:01] <SirKillalot> hey, do you know a software euqalizer for linux to control the recording of line in or microphone devices?
[10:01] <jrsims> mrkoje: no worky
[10:01] <serbshadow> hi all
[10:01] <mrkoje> jrsims:  try this    " sudo apt-get install bum"
[10:01] <ZiX> hi, my video plays slow since i have fglrx, the games play fast, though.
[10:01] <jrsims> mmkay
[10:01] <nasimuto> crimsun: if i resize my swap with i.e partmagic later, will ubuntu still work ? (i.e: 256 -> 400)
[10:01] <mrkoje> jrsims: sorry you wanted update-rc.d
[10:02] <crimsun> nasimuto: sure
[10:02] <mrkoje> jrsims:  try this    " sudo apt-get install update-rc.d
[10:02] <jrsims> k
[10:02] <nasimuto> crimsun: thanks again :)
[10:02] <jrsims> what is update-rc.d?
[10:02] <serbshadow> need help pls
[10:02] <intelikey> nasimuto something like fluxbox or anything developed for imbedded systems would be ok on 64m  but you will need to keep the open apps to a minimum.   and by all means remove cups.
[10:02] <visor> seems linux runs really slow on these machines, i wonder if there is something to do about it
[10:03] <serbshadow> my web browser not working
[10:03] <mrkoje> jrsims: there has to be a better program then that for just checking the runlevels of all services
[10:03] <nasimuto> intelikey: i tried flux, but i like xfce more
[10:03] <visor> it has a transmeta processor, 600mhtz and 256mb of ram, but it runs like if it was a Pentium I
[10:03] <mrkoje> jrsims: on my fedora machines I use chkconfig
[10:03] <nasimuto> intelikey: whats cups and how do i remove it ?
[10:03] <visor> so if anybody has one of this machines i would like to share comments
[10:03] <intelikey> k just saying you will have to watch what & how many apps you run.
[10:04] <jrsims> mrkoje: isn't there just a config file I can look at that would tell me what items are going to load at boot time?
[10:04] <intelikey> cups=common unix printing system
[10:04] <frogzoo> nasimuto: cups is the printing system
[10:04] <nasimuto> thx
[10:04] <mrkoje> jrsims: yes
[10:04] <mrkoje> jrsims: im kinda new... hold on let me find it
[10:04] <jrsims> mrkoje: cool
[10:04] <mrkoje> ok
[10:04] <mrkoje> jrsims
[10:04] <nasimuto> how do i control what services are being loaded at boot ?
[10:04] <jrsims> mrkoje: yes?
[10:05] <cyphase> hey everyone
[10:05] <frogzoo> nasimuto: install 'bum' - it will help a lot
[10:05] <intelikey> nasimuto you can print without it.   cups may be nice on systems with plenty of resources but it eats ram and you dont want that.
[10:05] <nasimuto> im pretty sure i dont need bluetooth and IR 24/7
[10:05] <duderiffic> this wireless shit is getting ridiculous......
[10:05] <nasimuto> ok
[10:05] <mrkoje> /etc/rc1.d  /etc/rc2.d  /etc/rc3.d      etc  ..... until   5
[10:05] <jrsims> mrkoje: what are those?
[10:05] <mrkoje> those are your runlevels in linux
[10:06] <mrkoje> run level 5 is graphical interface with x windows
[10:06] <mrkoje> run level 3 is just command line with networking
[10:06] <intelikey> mrkoje s/5/6/ ^
[10:06] <jrsims> mrkoje: I see. Cool.
[10:06] <mrkoje> intelikey: What?
[10:06] <frogzoo> how come 'runlevel' returns 'N 2'   ?
[10:06] <intelikey> 0-6 are default runlevels
[10:07] <mrkoje> 6 is restart
[10:07] <mrkoje> you will pretty much stay in 3 or 5
[10:07] <crimsun> hold on, time out. Clear up the misinformation.
[10:07] <frogzoo> I think Ubuntu's slightly different - with X up, runlevel says I'm at rl 2
[10:07] <crimsun> Debian does not play runlevel games. 2-5 are identical.
[10:07] <intelikey> frogzoo because you are in runlevel 2 atm  but there wan nothing before it so the privious runlevel is n = not avalable.
[10:07] <mrkoje> crimsun: ooops.... sorry
[10:07] <aeon17x> is run level 9 root?
[10:08] <duderiffic> i thought ndiswrapper was for the prism chipset cards....
[10:08] <polpak> aeon17x, no, there is no runlevel 9
[10:08] <frogzoo> aeon17x: nope - root is user id = 0 always on all unix
[10:08] <duderiffic> madwifi for the atheros, right?
[10:08] <polpak> aeon17x, there's only 0-6
[10:08] <intelikey> aeon17x only if you hack it that way....
[10:08] <aeon17x> I could swear someone told me there's a runlevel 9... >_<
[10:09] <intelikey> i have ran everything from 0-1   to 0-12
[10:09] <frogzoo> aeon17x: you can create your own runlevels - man init
[10:09] <frogzoo> from man page 'init' 0123456Ss  - so guess no rl 9 then
[10:09] <mrkoje> crimsun: what do you mean debian doesn't play the runlevel games.. are you just saying that  /etc/rc2.d - rc5.d are the same ident files?
[10:10] <intelikey> frogzoo not unless you add it.
[10:10] <ZiX> ... guys?
[10:10] <aeon17x> !run level
[10:10] <ubotu> aeon17x: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:10] <crimsun> mrkoje: runlevels 2-5 are by policy the same
[10:10] <aeon17x> !run
[10:10] <ZiX> hi, my video plays slow since i have fglrx, the games play fast, though. <-- ? :x
[10:10] <ZiX> i wanna watch the movie xD
[10:10] <aeon17x> ZiX: what type of movie is it?
[10:10] <frogzoo> for everything you ever wanted to know about runlevels, and plenty you don't 'man init'
[10:10] <Fushi> Heya, when I run startx I keep getting the following - - xterm: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.4: cannot open shared object file: Error 40
[10:11] <ZiX> dvdrip xvid
[10:11] <ZiX> ;p
[10:11] <ZiX> Spirited Away
[10:11] <ZiX> =P
[10:11] <ZiX> anyone wanna have that movie?
[10:11] <aeon17x> What do you mean by 'slow'?
[10:11] <Fushi> Good movie :)
[10:11] <giany911> why  cant i find mplayer on synaptic?
[10:11] <ZiX> well, it skips frames.
[10:11] <ZiX> Fushi: yea ^_^
[10:11] <raphink> giany911: did you enable universe and multiverse?
[10:11] <ZiX> too bad i have the english version :{
[10:11] <giany911> yep
[10:11] <Fushi> indeed xP
[10:11] <ZiX> you an anime freak too? xD
[10:12] <Fushi> I watch some anime, dunno about freak.
[10:12] <intelikey> anyone wanting to play with runlevels(and probably crash their system) should have a look in /etc/inittab  and any manpages on init/inittab
[10:12] <ZiX> heh ;p
[10:12] <Fushi> cool :)
[10:12] <ZiX> yea =)
[10:12] <Fushi> I just got up to 22 in chobits
[10:12] <Fushi> :)
[10:12] <ZiX> ooh O_O
[10:12] <ZiX> xD
[10:12] <ZiX> gimmeeeeeeh =D
[10:12] <crimsun> giany911: as in mplayer-$arch?
[10:12] <bigfoot1> i have flash player working (in a browser) but there is no sounds. how can we fix this?
[10:12] <Fushi> episode #22 rmvb format :P
[10:12] <ZiX> rmvb..
[10:13] <ZiX> how to play that on Linux? xD
[10:13] <crimsun> bigfoot1: aoss firefox
[10:13] <Fushi> No clue lol
[10:13] <giany911> crimsun...as in mplayer :)
[10:13] <Fushi> Currently running 2k on this box =P
[10:13] <bigfoot1> crimsun: what's aoss?
[10:13] <Fushi> So anyways, anyone know what error 40 in X? :(
[10:13] <devnul> bigfoot1, do you ahve sound working at all/.
[10:13] <bigfoot1> devnul: yes
[10:13] <crimsun> bigfoot1: alsa-oss
[10:14] <ZiX> anyways, the video plays slow with some frame skips i think.
[10:14] <LuCkYaN> hi, i have a little network at my home , and i want to know for ex. ip <IP_ADDRESS> want to open any web page to redirect on a page what i want ... anyone know how ?]
[10:14] <frogzoo> !dma
[10:14] <aeon17x> ZiX: use another player.
[10:14] <bigfoot1> crimsun: you mean switch from one to the other?
[10:14] <LuCkYaN> i have 3 pc's ...
[10:14] <Fushi> I also got all of lain earlier :)
[10:14] <ZiX> aeon17x: using totem now
[10:14] <LuCkYaN> and on one of them want to redirect all 80 to a page from server
[10:14] <mrkoje> LuCkYan, huh?
[10:14] <ZiX> does mplayer use gstreamer?
[10:15] <LuCkYaN> so anyone can help me ?
[10:15] <mrkoje> LuCkYan, from what I could decipher I think you want to set up a web proxy
[10:16] <crimsun> bigfoot1: I mean invoke firefox with ''aoss firefox''
[10:16] <Paradosso> hi everybody
[10:16] <tcpip> i want to know the difference between amd64 CD and the DVD.. how diff are the installations?
[10:16] <devnul> LuCkYaN: try squid-proxy
[10:16] <crimsun> tcpip: the DVD includes both the install and the live set
[10:16] <crimsun> sets^
[10:16] <mrkoje> LuCkYaN: Then with that web proxy up, have all your clients use the proxy. Have the proxy take your clients to what ever page you want
[10:17] <LuCkYaN> mrkoje, don't know ... as i sad i have a server / 3 pc's with ip private // and i want one of them whem try to use http to redirect on every page to a web page from server
[10:17] <tcpip> crimsum: ya i knw, so if i have the 2 cd set and the dvd how different are these two
[10:17] <Fushi> Heya, when I run startx I keep getting the following - - xterm: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.4: cannot open shared object file: Error 40
[10:18] <Paradosso> when I try to write on a fat32 partition it gives me the "read-only file system" error, even though is a partition mounted in rw mode; this happens after I try to write on that partition using bittorrent at the beginning of a computer session. Ant hints?
[10:18] <bigfoot1> crimsun: what if i use opera, or anonther browser?
[10:18] <Fushi> I liked the cannot find error better ):
[10:18] <bigfoot1> cuz i am.
[10:18] <Fushi> At least I knew what it was talking about then, heh
[10:18] <mrkoje> LuCkYan: Ok, if you only want 1 client to redirect, you will still have to set up a proxy on the server and have the client pc connect to the proxy
[10:18] <ZiX> totem-xine works perfect.
[10:18] <frogzoo> Paradosso: check your permissions
[10:19] <bigfoot1> crimsun: i tried "aoss firefox" in cli, but it said "command not found"
[10:19] <mrkoje> Paradosso: is the Fat32 partition remote or local
[10:19] <Paradosso> mrkoje, local
[10:19] <Paradosso> permissions are 777
[10:19] <crimsun> bigfoot1: you have to install alsa-oss as I mentioned
[10:19] <Paradosso> I can't figure this out
[10:20] <frogzoo> LuCkYaN: man iptables
[10:20] <mrkoje> Paradosso: good luck... I have no clue
[10:20] <Paradosso> bobi@verok:/mnt$ ls -la
[10:20] <frogzoo> Paradosso: run your app with strace to a log - then look for errors
[10:21] <Paradosso> drwxrwxrwx  19 root root 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 dati
[10:21] <Paradosso> (this is the partition
[10:21] <Paradosso> )
[10:21] <bigfoot1> crimsun:can i use the "aoss" command with stuff other than firefox. For example, "aoss opera"?
[10:21] <Paradosso> I have another bittorrent instance that is currently writing on /mnt/dati
[10:21] <tcpip> crimsum : so if i have the 2 cd set and the dvd how different are these two
[10:21] <Paradosso> but if I try e.g. mkdir /mnt/dati/boh
[10:22] <mrkoje> Paradosso: You can write and read on the Fat32 right... just not with BT?
[10:22] <Paradosso> says it can't create the directory for it is a read-only file system
[10:22] <Paradosso> mrkoje
[10:22] <Paradosso> at the beginning of a session I can write regularly
[10:22] <frogzoo> Paradosso: paste the line from fstab
[10:22] <Paradosso> then I start this bt instance via screen
[10:23] <Paradosso> this instance exits
[10:23] <Paradosso> and then I can write on it anymore anyhow
[10:23] <frogzoo> Paradosso: the problem is likely the way you;re mounting the fat32
[10:23] <Paradosso> instances of bt started before the first instance exits still work
[10:23] <Paradosso> I'll paste it in a moment frogzoo
[10:24] <Paradosso> /dev/hda5	/mnt/dati	vfat		defaults,quiet,user,umask=000	0	0
[10:24] <Morrowyn> morning
[10:24] <pinkisntwell> how do i find my ip address? both internal and external?
[10:24] <kemik> pinkisntwell:  ifconfig
[10:24] <mrkoje> pinkisntwell ifconfig
[10:24] <kemik> pinkisntwell:  but if you're behind a nat you need to check your router/nat-boc
[10:24] <kemik> boc
[10:24] <frogzoo> !ntfs
[10:25] <kemik> BOX even
[10:25] <mrkoje> I love the easy questions... I can answer those!
[10:25] <Paradosso> I think it's a good fstab line actually
[10:25] <pinkisntwell> what's that?
[10:26] <mrkoje> pinkisntwell: type "ifconfig" in a command line shell
[10:26] <frogzoo> Paradosso: try user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 - from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:26] <mrkoje> pinkisntwell: It will tell you what network interfaces you have and what their address are
[10:26] <kemik> pinkisntwell:  or goto system->administration->network
[10:26] <pinkisntwell> i did, what's router/nat-boc ?
[10:27] <kemik> pinkisntwell:  are you directly connected to the internet?
[10:27] <Paradosso> I'll give it a read, frogzoo
[10:27] <pinkisntwell> i use an adsl router
[10:27] <kemik> pinkisntwell:  does the adsl router get the external ip ?
[10:27] <pinkisntwell> yes
[10:28] <frogzoo> Paradosso: pretty sure just those options will do the trick
[10:28] <mrkoje> pinkisntwell: pppoe?
[10:28] <pinkisntwell> pppoa
[10:28] <mrkoje> doesn't matter anyway....  ifconfig if you want your ip
[10:29] <pinkisntwell> something else now, i tried to record my voice with my mic and the volume is *way* too low. i cant use skype like this. any tips?
[10:29] <tcpip> does the DVD installation better or the cd installation?
[10:29] <tcpip> *IS
[10:30] <mp3guy> i'm thinking of getting a TV tuner, can someone tell me which one would be ideal for ubuntu?
[10:30] <mrkoje> mp3uy:  I have an AverMedia card
[10:30] <Madpilot> pinkisntwell: right click on the little gnome volume icon next to the clock, there should be a mic volume setting in the advanced volume controls
[10:30] <mp3guy> mrkoje, does it work well? what features does it have?
[10:30] <mrkoje> mp3guy: It works fine with the ubuntu live... though I haven't actually installed linux on that machine
[10:30] <pinkisntwell> well yes, i have it at full
[10:30] <mrkoje> hold on... im not exactly sure of the model
[10:32] <Paradosso> rebooting, I'll let you know frogzoo
[10:33] <mrkoje> mp3guy: I don't know the card model... the most I could get is AverMedia AverTV
[10:33] <mrkoje> I could use it with MythTV I presume but I haven't
[10:33] <kemik> anyone here know how to get skype to use OSS/ALSA instead of /dev/dsp ?
[10:33] <mrkoje> lol... I don't even have cable at my current location so it hardly gets used
[10:33] <kemik> ./dev/dsp is the only option i see in skype-settings... :(
[10:34] <mp3guy> kemik, why do you need to use OSS/ALSA
[10:35] <kemik> mp3guy:  well any sound demon...
[10:35] <mp3guy> kemik, does skype not work or something?
[10:35] <kemik> mp3guy:  if it access dev/dsp it needs exclusive access to the sounddevice
[10:35] <kemik> mp3guy:  it works, but not while playing music/games
[10:35] <mp3guy> kemik try the skype_dsp_hijacker
[10:35] <kemik> since it need access to dev/dsp
[10:36] <kemik> aight
[10:36] <kemik> mp3guy:  whereis that ?
[10:36] <kemik> wiki ?
[10:36] <tcpip> is selling of UBUNTU DVD 5.10 legal??
[10:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> tcpip: yes
[10:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> afaik
[10:36] <kemik> mp3guy:  nvm found it =) thx
[10:37] <kemik> but why would anyone BUY it ?
[10:37] <kemik> to me, that sounds a bit... stupid ?
[10:37] <mrkoje> kemik: LOL.... people try to sell Linux all the time on Ebay
[10:37] <krak`n> i'd feel like an asshole taking money for ubuntu :(
[10:37] <mrkoje> kemik: worse yet people buy it...
[10:37] <kemik> i guess the last moron hasnt been born yet
[10:37] <mrkoje> nope
[10:37] <frogzoo> how much you want for it?
[10:38] <mp3guy> http://juljas.net/linux/skype/
[10:38] <mrkoje> kemik: I was looking and there were some auctions selling fedora... suse  what ever distro for up to like 30 bucks
[10:38] <mrkoje> people were buying the stuff too
[10:38] <tcpip> www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/dvd/ubuntu
[10:38] <frogzoo> mrkoje: nope, shills methinks
[10:38] <mrkoje> frogzoo /
[10:38] <mrkoje> ?
[10:39] <krak`n> what idiot buys linux :l
[10:39] <frogzoo> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/shill
[10:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> krak`n one who cant download it?
[10:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyway, i baght Debian :P
[10:40] <tcpip> so is downloading the dvd better or the 2cd set??
[10:40] <frogzoo> yeh, but Kamping_Kaiser - Ubuntu will mail out anyway
[10:40] <mrkoje> for free!
[10:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> frogzoo: yes, but i ttakes months
[10:40] <mrkoje> true
[10:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> i do use the service ;)
[10:41] <frogzoo> so you can sell them on e-bay right
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> frogzoo: no, so i can give them away free :O
[10:41] <pinkisntwell> any help with the recording level?
[10:41] <frogzoo> lol
[10:42] <dcj028> hi i have an issue installing the JRE runtime environ with UBUNTU.. can anyone tell me what the latest JRE packet is?
[10:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> 1.5 IIRC
[10:44] <giany911> how can i install active x for firefox ?
[10:44] <tcpip> no u cant
[10:44] <mrkoje> giany911: cant
[10:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> bhahaaa
[10:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> erm..
[10:45] <ZiX> giany911: why would you want that?
[10:45] <giany911> well
[10:45] <mrkoje> giany911: activex is a Microsoft technology used in IE
[10:45] <giany911> i installed wine
[10:45] <giany911> and counter strike
[10:45] <giany911> and when i wanna open cs
[10:45] <ZiX> then you just install iexplore on that, then.
[10:45] <sir-reality> i am using debootstrap to install ubuntu, how do i get it to install the base system for ubuntu server not ubuntu desktop
[10:45] <ZiX> giany911: wine ain't for games
[10:45] <mrkoje> giany911: ya that might work? Not sure
[10:45] <giany911> ..cedege aint free
[10:45] <giany911> *cedega
[10:46] <sir-reality> is there another tree/apt source for ubuntu server?
[10:46] <mrkoje> giany911: Have you tried to install IE from wine?
[10:46] <giany911> not yet
[10:46] <dcj028> how do i install jre2 for firefox?
[10:46] <giany911> synaptic .. j2re
[10:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> sir-reality:when you put in the cd type 'server'
[10:46] <giany911> mrkoje .. should i install ie ?
[10:47] <mrkoje> giany911: I don't see how it could hurt... I don't think activex is going to work...
[10:47] <giany911> ok
[10:47] <mrkoje> giany911: If it does... laugh or jump up and down
[10:48] <giany911> :))
[10:49] <Corin_777> can someone tell me, i remember there was something about sound, which had to be enabled....
[10:49] <Corin_777> something to do with copyright issues, so it wouldnt play sounds, movies etc...
[10:49] <pinkisntwell> any help with the recording level?
[10:49] <mrkoje> oss/alsa?
[10:51] <pinkisntwell> alsa
[10:51] <pinkisntwell> the volume is too low
[10:51] <Digis> !java
[10:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:52] <dcj028> thanks ill try that.. apparently im not running breezy, i'm running 5.04
[10:55] <knuddel> h
[10:55] <knuddel> hallo
[10:55] <topyli> beagle is still way too heavy on the system. after running a few hours, it starts to seriously affect performans on my oldish machine
[10:55] <topyli> i'm sure things will improve
[10:56] <cyphase> Is anyone using a wireless card in Ubuntu that worked out of the box?
[10:56] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell cyphase about wireless
[10:56] <cyphase> robotgeek, i tried
[10:56] <robotgeek> cyphase: oops, now i remember. sorry
[10:56] <cyphase> the card i tried didn't work
[10:56] <cyphase> and it was on the list
[10:57] <robotgeek> cyphase: which one? can you tell me the pci id? try 'lspci' in  a term
[10:58] <Corin_777> whats the command to search for a file?
[10:58] <carsten> Does anybody know if there is a KDissert-package which is version 1.0.x? The breezy-package is totally outdated
[10:58] <carsten> Corin_777: find . -name FOO
[10:59] <carsten> where FOO is the filename, Corin_777
[10:59] <Mitja> I'm confused here: does kubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso also include LiveCD?
[10:59] <Corin_777> thanks
[10:59] <jirwin_> hey there
[10:59] <jirwin_> any reason why my nic isn't being detected in breezy or hoary?
[11:00] <carsten> jirwin_: unusual card not supported by the kernel? hardwaredefekt?
[11:00] <jirwin_> the nic works in windows, so I know it is functional
[11:01] <jirwin_> it is a laptop, toshiba satellite l25
[11:01] <mrkoje> jirwin: sometimes... drivers are not available for linux
[11:01] <jirwin_> i am having problems using the nic, and using the video driver
[11:01] <jirwin_> i understand this...just seemed odd
[11:02] <mrkoje> actually really odd... what does ifconfig say
[11:02] <jirwin_> only lists the loopback
[11:02] <mrkoje> too bad
[11:02] <jirwin_> no eth0
[11:02] <indypende> hi all!
[11:02] <jirwin_> and my laptop has a nic, and then integrated wireless
[11:02] <mrkoje> can you use a ndiswrapper for that?
[11:02] <mrkoje> for wired NIC
[11:03] <jirwin_> no idea.
[11:03] <indypende> i've experienced a problem printing only photos with all apps! no one have the same problem? (printer work correctly)
[11:03] <mrkoje> jirwin_ I know of people using ndiswrapper for usb devices.. so...
[11:03] <Riddell> Mitja: yes
[11:03] <dcj028> how do i install j2re for hoary?
[11:03] <ben_underscore> dcj028, search for j2re in synaptic
[11:04] <bigfoot1> how do i run a .jar file?
[11:04] <dcj028> it does not find it there
[11:04] <ben_underscore> dcj028, it installs the blackdown j environment, also the firefox plugin
[11:04] <ben_underscore> dcj028, you need to add the other repositories, such as multiverse
[11:04] <ben_underscore> bigfoot1, java -jar jarfile.jar
[11:05] <dcj028> hmm... ok.. how do i install  multiverse?
[11:05] <dcj028> i tried it once before.. maybe i didn't do it correctly
[11:05] <ben_underscore> mrkoje, i used ndiswrapper to get my linksys wireless card working. it loads the windows driver as a linux kernel module
[11:06] <jirwin_> anyway i could grab a package for apt-get from a pc that has internet working...and use it on my laptop?
[11:06] <JaMiNkLe> how do i set up mah lappy so i can ssh from my pc
[11:06] <JaMiNkLe> there on a lan
[11:06] <jirwin_> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:06] <bigfoot1> i get an error when i try that java -jar file.jar command. please see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5112
[11:06] <indypende> i've experienced a problem printing only photos with all apps! no one have the same problem? (printer work correctly)
[11:06] <ben_underscore> mrkoje, install ndisgtk - it is much easier to use
[11:07] <cyphase> Is anyone using a wireless card in Ubuntu that worked out of the box?
[11:07] <cyphase> anybody?
[11:07] <topyli> bigfoot1: you're using gnu java
[11:07] <ben_underscore> cyphase, no
[11:07] <dcj028> cyphase yes...
[11:07] <dcj028> my hp laptop.... works great
[11:08] <cyphase> lol
[11:08] <cyphase> on a desktop
[11:08] <bigfoot1> topyli: ok. what are the implications of that?
[11:08] <dcj028> can;t help you there haha
[11:09] <topyli> bigfoot1: well, it just doesn't always work. if you want java to actually work, use sun's java
[11:20] <limguohong91> May I know is it possible to run SUN Java on Firefox?
[11:20] <mjr> limguohong91, yes, it is
[11:20] <limguohong91> mjr How can i do that?
[11:20] <limguohong91> Is it a package?
[11:20] <Trograin> Hi there, How do I check the MACadress on my ethernet card in Ubuntu text mode???
[11:21] <mjr> limguohong91, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:21] <bimberi> Trograin: ifconfig (look for HWaddr)
[11:22] <Trograin> is that the MACAdress?? okey,
[11:22] <Trograin> thanx
[11:22] <bimberi> Trograin: np :)
[11:22] <Mitja> Where do I get this BitTorrent.platform? I can't run bittorrent
[11:23] <Trograin> Can MACAdress have 5 AND 6 parts?? where each part contains 2 units (one letter and a number or two letters or two numbers)?
[11:23] <Trograin> Becouse my main comptuer has only 5 parts
[11:23] <Trograin> the ubuntu server has 6 parts
[11:23] <pinkisntwell> come on guys, no help with my recording volume problem?
[11:25] <Trograin> ops, I saw wrong on my main computer
[11:25] <Trograin> nothing, and thanx mates
[11:25] <SphAx3D> Bonjour :)
[11:25] <henke_> hello
[11:25] <bimberi> g'day
[11:26] <SphAx3D> Sorry, i go to #ubuntu-fr ... Bye :-)
[11:27] <indypende> someone know a free skype alternative?
[11:27] <bigfoot1> topyli: so i must remove gnu-java and install sun-java? if so, how?
[11:28] <Hobbsee> !java
[11:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:28] <s00d> Hello. I'm having a problem trying to install Breezy Badger (got my CDs today :-D). I think it's due to the lack of disk space (2gb). It constantly freezes when trying to install the packages after reboot. I tried booting the installer with "linux archive-copier/copy=false". but then it just freezes when installing packages (presumably because it doesn't know where they are). Is there any way I can finish this install?
[11:29] <indypende> s00d, no space!
[11:29] <indypende> s00d, tri DSL Linux
[11:29] <s00d> Is it possible to install without caching the packages onto the hard drive?
[11:29] <indypende> s00d, or Debian!
[11:29] <Mitja> Can anyone help me running bittorrent? I get this: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5115
[11:30] <Syx-T> este vre-un roman pe aici?
[11:30] <giany911> sysx t eu
[11:30] <s00d> indypendent: What about this "linux archive-copier/copy=false" option?
[11:30] <giany911> syx-t  eu :D
[11:30] <bimberi> s00d: perhaps try a server install first, then install desktop components after that
[11:30] <Syx-T> stai putin
[11:31] <bimberi> indypende: http://www.gizmoproject.com/ ???
[11:31] <giany911> sysx-t intra pe #ubuntu-ro
[11:31] <indypende> bimberi, thx
[11:31] <bimberi> indypende: np :)
[11:31] <s00d> bimberi: what are the packages for the desktop component? Wasn't there just a dummy package like "gnome-desktop" or something?
[11:31] <indypende> s00d, try DSL linux!
[11:31] <bimberi> s00d: ubuntu-desktop
[11:31] <s00d> bimberi: Ah, thanks. So I just apt-get install that?
[11:32] <pinkisntwell>  i'm trying to record something in ubuntu and the volume is way too low. what can i do?
[11:32] <s00d> Is there an apt-get search function?
[11:32] <bimberi> s00d: yep :) (not sure if you'll have the same problem but worth a try)
[11:32] <topyli> bigfoot1: you can say 'sudo update-alternatives -config java' to change the default java
[11:32] <bimberi> s00d: apt-cache search <keywords>
[11:32] <s00d> bimberi: I think I might be okay if I just install gnome without the office software etc.
[11:32] <Syx-T> giany911 mai esti
[11:32] <Syx-T> ?
[11:33] <giany911> da
[11:33] <giany911> intra pe #ubuntu-ro
[11:33] <s00d> bimberi: which package would that be?
[11:33] <Syx-T> ti-am scris pe private
[11:33] <Syx-T> nu ti-a aparut
[11:33] <Syx-T> ?
[11:33] <giany911> nuuu
[11:33] <Digis> !tomcat
[11:33] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Digis
[11:33] <bimberi> s00d: not sure, let me have a look
[11:33] <Digis> !tomcat5
[11:33] <ubotu> Digis: Are you on ritalin?
[11:34] <Syx-T> ma, am incercat sa imi instalez, ubuntu si nu merge
[11:34] <kruskal> good evening world!!!
[11:34] <giany911> syx-t intra pe canalul #ubuntu-ro
[11:34] <Syx-T> 10x
[11:34] <kruskal> i tried to put background image in my grub file during boot-up, but my file.xpm.gz didn't load
[11:35] <mandrakeghost> hello
[11:35] <afabian> hm.  any way to easily force the screen to go blank?
[11:35] <mandrakeghost> can i ask for some help people?
[11:35] <kruskal> try
[11:35] <mandrakeghost> i am currently installing VMWARE
[11:36] <mandrakeghost> i am jsut new to this ubuntu thing...i am pretty sorry for me
[11:36] <mandrakeghost> and i can't install it
[11:36] <ke> Don't be sorry for installing Ubuntu :)
[11:36] <mandrakeghost> no...i am happy for ubuntu
[11:36] <kruskal> mandrakeghost, where did it failed?
[11:36] <mandrakeghost> i am happy having an ubuntu
[11:36] <bigfoot1> topyli: i did " sudo update-alternatives -config java" and i got "update-alternatives: unknown argument `-config'  "
[11:36] <kruskal> ubuntu is the best...
[11:37] <mandrakeghost> it was asking me which directory i would want to install the manual files
[11:37] <mandrakeghost> it was supposed to be /man right?
[11:37] <mandrakeghost> and it said "Unable to get the access rights of source file "./man".
[11:37] <JaMiNkLe> my install got raped
[11:37] <Syx-T> can someone help me to install ubuntu?
[11:38] <mandrakeghost> hey kruska
[11:38] <kruskal> i used pqmagic to partition my / and my /swap...and then i pointed the installer over there..
[11:38] <mandrakeghost> hey kruskal...
[11:38] <parker> hola
[11:38] <mandrakeghost> can u help me figure this out
[11:38] <j813> hi guys
[11:39] <bimberi> s00d: sry, struggling to find a post on the forums ...  (still looking)
[11:39] <kruskal> mandrakeghost, i only used the minimalist setup i didn't even have /man for those manuals files you said...
[11:39] <parker> alguien que hable espaol?
[11:39] <kruskal> i only have / and /swap..and that;s it..
[11:39] <mandrakeghost> so how do i install it in ur way
[11:40] <s00d> bimberi: Thanks for trying. Any help is appreciated.
[11:40] <s00d> bimberi: IUsnt' there jsut an umbrella package in synaptic?
[11:40] <kruskal> i used pqmagic...and i partition my 20GB into : 10G FAT32, 6G for EXT2,1G for swap,..thats it
[11:40] <mandrakeghost> ???
[11:41] <mandrakeghost> hey kruskal, are u talking to me...i am just ocnfused corry
[11:41] <parker> hi
[11:41] <kruskal> yeah
[11:41] <topyli> bigfoot1: check the syntax from the update-alternatives man page then :)
[11:41] <mandrakeghost> can u enlighten me
[11:41] <kruskal> mandrakeghost, i wish you have pqmagic..it will be so easy..
[11:41] <mandrakeghost> where can i download it?
[11:41] <bimberi> s00d: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90954 (particularly post #6 by "azz" has some ideas) :)
[11:42] <kruskal> mandrakeghost, i think, its commercial..but i got mine from a friend...
[11:42] <s00d> bimberi: Thank you so much.
[11:42] <bimberi> s00d: np :)
[11:42] <mandrakeghost> is there alternative?
[11:42] <kruskal> my method, is to first partition my hd into partitions...because i am using dual boot..then after partitionning..i install then...first is windows..followed by Linux
[11:43] <mandrakeghost> ahhh...ok i get what u are trying to say...
[11:43] <kruskal> i think there is, ..somewhere in the command line but i dont know waht they are...
[11:43] <mandrakeghost> u have two OS a dual boot
[11:43] <kruskal> mandrakeghost, yeah
[11:43] <whitynz> just ask the question mandrakeghost
[11:43] <mandrakeghost> hi whitynz
[11:44] <mandrakeghost> i really want to leave MS world
[11:44] <mandrakeghost> not totally
[11:44] <Seveas> !goodmorning
[11:44] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
[11:44] <kruskal> mandrakeghost, don't leave windows...instead, try to dual boot your machine...
[11:44] <mandrakeghost> it's been just a week since i started ubuntu
[11:44] <Seveas> mandrakeghost, welcome on the Ubuntu ship :)
[11:44] <Seveas> do you like Ubuntu so far?
[11:44] <mandrakeghost> ahhh...i dont have a license windows
[11:44] <kruskal> what ubuntu version you have there?
[11:45] <mandrakeghost> 5.10 i guess
[11:45] <mandrakeghost> i can't also play my mp3 and dvd
[11:45] <mandrakeghost> whoew
[11:45] <whitynz> OpenOffice has come a long way too
[11:45] <Seveas> !tell mandrakeghost about mp3
[11:45] <Seveas> !tell mandrakeghost about dvd
[11:45] <Seveas> that should get you going
[11:46] <mandrakeghost> this is the first time i really get serious in chatting...usually i would always ask someone to get nude on cam...lol
[11:46] <parker> i don't know install KDE in ubuntu, help...
[11:47] <kruskal> mandrakeghost, be patient at first in the Linux world...eventually, you will get the feel for it..
[11:47] <Seveas> parker, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:47] <MenZa`> parker: I just installed KDE yesterday, it's very easy.
[11:47] <MenZa`> Yes
[11:47] <MenZa`> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for the whole package
[11:47] <mandrakeghost> yeah i know
[11:47] <Seveas> fortunately, uninstalling it is just as easy 8)
[11:48] <Hobbsee> Seveas: and the way to uninstall it is?
[11:48] <MenZa`> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[11:48] <MenZa`> :P
[11:48] <topyli> no
[11:48] <MenZa`> :O!
[11:48] <ben_underscore> !tell ben_underscore about mp3
[11:48] <Seveas> Hobbsee, debfoster
[11:48] <Hobbsee> MenZa`: no it isnt...kubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage...
[11:48] <bimberi> sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt ?
[11:48] <topyli> MenZa`: removing kubuntu-desktop will only remove the zero-byte metapackage
[11:49] <parker> thanks!
[11:49] <kruskal> hey guys, my breezy plays a sluggish vcd...any ideas why?????????
[11:49] <Seveas> debfoster is great at pruning things
[11:49] <MenZa`> Sorry, that was what I was told :P
[11:49] <Seveas> kruskal, enable dma on your drive
[11:49] <Seveas> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev.cdrom
[11:49] <Seveas> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[11:49] <kruskal> i think i already did that i read that in the ubuntn help section...
[11:49] <mandrakeghost> i need vmware installed
[11:49] <mandrakeghost> whoew
[11:49] <mandrakeghost> i need it badly
[11:50] <topyli> MenZa`: don't believe everything. debfoster is the most useful tool for that
[11:50] <topyli> but no, removing kde is still not as straightforward as installing it
[11:51] <kruskal> i just let my vcd sluggish...anyway..
[11:51] <mandrakeghost> hey...i think i am getting vmware good... i used /etc instead of /man
[11:51] <mandrakeghost> is that alright?
[11:51] <Seveas> kruskal, what does hdparm -d /dev/cdrom say?
[11:51] <mandrakeghost> hey guys...some zillion things are inside my mind right now..is that ok for me to ask plenty of questionds>
[11:52] <Trograin> Hey boys. what is /dev/evms   ???
[11:52] <Seveas> keikoz, stop sending /amsgs when joining channels
[11:52] <Seveas> it's VERY annoying
[11:52] <Trograin> I have found some eror logs
[11:52] <topyli> mandrakeghost: sure. people will answer those that they know about
[11:52] <Trograin> about evms
[11:52] <keikoz> why ?
[11:52] <Trograin> dont know what evms is though :(
[11:52] <Seveas> 1) it's french 2) you say nothing else 3) it's just as stupid as auto-away messages
[11:53] <kruskal> Seveas, its off..how do i enable that again..?? ( i just upgraded to breezy...thats why.. )
[11:53] <human_error> how do i disable cookie messages in w3m?
[11:53] <Seveas> kruskal, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[11:53] <keikoz> that's your opinion ...
[11:53] <Seveas> and you should add it to /etc/hdparm.conf
[11:53] <human_error> it makes ubuntuforums.org unbearably slow
[11:53] <topyli> keikoz: 4) /me is supposed to be followed by an action, not a verbal utterance
[11:53] <keikoz> i know
[11:53] <keikoz> and ?
[11:53] <Seveas> keikoz, fact is that auto-away messages are good enough to be kicked, and so are these stupid things
[11:53] <Trograin> anyone here that can tell me what "evms" is?
[11:54] <keikoz> mouarf
[11:54] <keikoz> then kick me and it is solved
[11:54] <topyli> keikoz: misbehaving will just get you ignored
[11:54] <keikoz> ar akick me: it's easier
[11:54] <Trograin> anyone here that can tell me what "evms" is?
[11:54] <Seveas> Trograin, enterprise volume management system
[11:54] <topyli> heh. be careful what you ask for
[11:54] <Seveas> something you probably not use
[11:55] <Trograin> Thanx Seveas
[11:55] <Trograin> weid then
[11:55] <Trograin> I am having some error logs form evms
[11:55] <Trograin> never heard of evms before though
[11:55] <human_error> Trograin, look in /usr/share/doc/evms
[11:55] <Trograin> thanx
[11:55] <Trograin> right on it
[11:55] <human_error> i dont know what it is myself but i found some references there
[11:56] <topyli> i've been thinking about getting rid of evms but never got around to it
[11:56] <human_error> how do i disable cookie messages in w3m?
[11:56] <mandrakeghost> can u recommend the best tutorial for ubuntu?
[11:56] <mandrakeghost> pleae
[11:57] <topyli> mandrakeghost: it's in system -> help
[11:57] <No1Viking> mandrakeghost, try help if you use Ubuntu 5.10
[11:57] <human_error> i'm surprised there isnt an ubuntu book yet
[11:58] <bimberi> mandrakeghost: alternatively there's http://help.ubuntu.com/
[11:58] <kruskal> Seveas, i tested it with dma ON, it is still sluggish...
[11:58] <Seveas> human_error, there are several books about ubuntu "In the works"
[11:58] <Seveas> kruskal, which player?
[11:58] <mandrakeghost> ok...what about in pdf form?
[11:58] <kruskal> totem...
[11:58] <No1Viking> mandrakeghost, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[11:58] <kruskal> Seveas, i am using totem breezy.
[11:58] <mandrakeghost> i have downloaded linux for dummies...will this help?
[11:58] <pinkisntwell> what should my subnet mask be if i want to always get the same ip address from my router?
[11:58] <j813> Seveas I have 3 optical drives how do I turn it on for all, & what do I put in the .conf file?
[11:59] <topyli> human_error: tech books, linux boox especially, have such a short lifetime. the web is better :)
[11:59] <human_error> that's true
[11:59] <human_error> i learned absolute basic linux from "linux for nongeeks"
[12:00] <ke> I got a "Linux For Dummies"
[12:00] <mandrakeghost> hey...i got this message details:failed to execute child process "vmplayer" (no such file or directory?
[12:00] <mandrakeghost> althoug i got successful installation message
[12:01] <ctd> i got a big thick debian 2.1 book a year or two back, on sale for $5
[12:01] <bigfoot1> which of the 4 java choices should i pick (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d5117)?
[12:01] <tcpip> !pppoe
[12:01] <ubotu> pppoe is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:01] <ctd> still has heaps of relevant stuff, seriously, even has stuff about coding in java/c/python
[12:01] <ctd> and tk
[12:03] <human_error> the debian manual at debian.org is pretty useful for the intermediate level
[12:03] <tcpip> !macaddress
[12:03] <ubotu> tcpip: Are you smoking crack?
[12:03] <Mabus06> tcpip, msg ubotu for private queries thank you
[12:04] <tcpip> no use.. how to configure macaddress on ubuntu
[12:05] <human_error> what are you guys using to chat here (besides xchat)
[12:05] <ctd> human_error: yeah, though this book as a bargain for the amount of stuff in it.
[12:05] <jackie> tcpip: how to configure mac addresses?
[12:06] <jackie> tcpip: there is no standard way to do that without outside utilities. hw mac addresses are not meant to be changed.
[12:06] <jackie> actually, bullshit
[12:06] <tcpip> windows allows so should ubuntu
[12:06] <jackie> i don't know whether there is a standard way
[12:06] <jackie> tcpip: windows allows it where?
[12:06] <topyli> human_error: sure, even an old unix book is useful in some areas. it's just that newbies don't know what is obsolete in them and what is not
[12:07] <mandrakeghost> i can't also use my infra red port and mmc card readed
[12:07] <tcpip> right click ur network adapter.. press configure button then advanced then network address
[12:08] <human_error> ctd recommended the old book, not me :)
[12:08] <tcpip> c'mon ubuntu must be having a way
[12:09] <jackie> tcpip: rtfm
[12:09] <tcpip> whts that/
[12:09] <topyli> i have a book based on redhat 6.0 here somewhere. it has gnome 1.0 screenshots
[12:09] <jackie> read the fucking manual.
[12:09] <Hobbsee> jackie: you cant tell people that
[12:09] <jackie> rtfm.
[12:09] <Hobbsee> language
[12:09] <jackie> Hobbsee: huh?
[12:09] <human_error> yea that's mean.
[12:10] <jackie> you can't curse in here?
[12:10] <jackie> wtf
[12:10] <Hobbsee> !coc
[12:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[12:10] <jackie> oh, cmon.
[12:10] <_cw_> Does anyone know how I can force my videocard to display at 100Hz?
[12:10] <jackie> okay. fine.
[12:10] <jackie> RTM
[12:10] <_cw_> It only goes to 85.
[12:10] <mandrakeghost> i can't also use my infra red port and mmc card readed
[12:10] <jackie> _cw_: you're trying to o/c your video card?
[12:10] <Mitja> Is anyone using btdownloadcurses here?
[12:11] <jackie> to run a higher refresh than it's supposed to be able to?
[12:11] <_cw_> jackie, No...The vertical refresh rate
[12:11] <j813> jackie: it's the refresh rate
[12:11] <human_error> i'm thinking of trying LFS to learn some. anyone got experience with that?
[12:11] <jackie> right...
[12:11] <jackie> ...
[12:11] <j813> but is it possible to OC the Video card?
[12:11] <_cw_> I know my video card supports<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:12] <_cw_> But X wont let me use anything higher than 85.
[12:12] <topyli> mandrakeghost: don't worry if no-one can help you with those right now. IR is tricky and people may not have card readers. ask the question every few hours to see if people in-the-know are around
[12:12] <jackie> hm.
[12:12] <_cw_> And yes I've got the rates correctyl set up in xorg.conf
[12:12] <han`> i want to install the latest version of ubuntu on a desktop with a 766mhz processor, is that enough?
[12:12] <mandrakeghost> ok
[12:12] <mandrakeghost> thanks
[12:12] <han`> some weird amount of ram close to 400mb
[12:12] <human_error> how do i fix stupidly large fonts in older gtk programs
[12:12] <ctd> han`: sure.
[12:13] <human_error> like dillo and config dialogs in xmms, mplayer, etc
[12:13] <_cw_> _cw_
[12:13] <han`> is the hardware support on ubuntu pretty good?
[12:14] <bimberi> han`: that should be ok (i run it on a Celeron 466 with 384Mb which is quite acceptable)
[12:14] <human_error> han, im on a 600 mhz laptop here. ive installed it on a 600 mhz desktop and a 2 ghz
[12:14] <han`> bimberi, cool thanks
[12:14] <topyli> human_error: those are handled by general X configuration. font path order in xorg.conf, other fiddling too...
[12:14] <eestisilk> Hello everyone
[12:14] <eestisilk> i got one problem
[12:14] <parker> hi
[12:14] <eestisilk> i recived my ubuntu ver 5.10 cd's
[12:14] <morphix> han': i have ubuntu installed on my very old intel celeron 366mhz with 192mb ram.. it that runs perfect.. so yours should run much better.
[12:14] <eestisilk> now i put live cd
[12:15] <eestisilk> he make somethings and now it want password
[12:15] <eestisilk> what i need to put to log in ..
[12:15] <human_error> topyli, i could set rxvt's font easily with .Xdefaults, but what about gtk in particular? i tried googling, but i need better keywords i guess.
[12:15] <Seveas> when does it want a password?
[12:15] <eestisilk> it make all things completed
[12:15] <jackie> when connecting a usb mouse to a ps/2 adapter and plugging it into a ps/2 port on a desktop, can it be assumed that it will work? do input devices such as keyboards and mice all use some sort of standard protocol, and the connection to the actual motherboard is irrelevant, because the OS itself recognizes the device for what it is?
[12:16] <eestisilk> and before like opening
[12:16] <eestisilk> it want password
[12:16] <Seveas> eestisilk, it also says: user ubuntu will be logged in in 10 seconds
[12:16] <eestisilk> like in windows xp .. before loging in it want
[12:16] <eestisilk> yes
[12:16] <han`> jackie, it should work
[12:16] <eestisilk> Seveas..
[12:16] <topyli> human_error: it used to be handled by the old gnome-session, which is not around anymore. so, the only way is to force gtk to find, say, 100dpi fonts before 75dpi fonts
[12:16] <Seveas> and you can login as user ubuntu with no password
[12:16] <jackie> han`: i figured that much - but on all platforms?
[12:16] <heien> Hi all. I want to resize a partion of mine, but i cant seem to umount the swap partions, and because of that, i cant resize. How do i umount a swap partion?
[12:16] <jackie> with a decent OS to recognize the device?
[12:17] <topyli> human_error: i.e. it doesn't care about Xdefaults
[12:17] <eestisilk> seveas, it cant ..
[12:17] <eestisilk> it dont log in ..
[12:17] <Seveas> heien, swapoff /dev/hd$something
[12:17] <Seveas> or swapoff -a
[12:17] <human_error> ic, thanks. i'll try editing xorg.conf
[12:17] <eestisilk> it apear this screen again
[12:17] <eestisilk> it show this screen again ..
[12:17] <Seveas> eestisilk, but it does try to login?
[12:17] <eestisilk> yes it try
[12:17] <parker> in ubuntu KDE "kubuntu" is compatible spanish lenguage?
[12:17] <jackie> heien: or Turn off swapping by editing the /etc/fstab file and commenting the line that describes your swap partition.
[12:18] <han`> jackie, if you are asking, does the mouse send the same commands if it is plugged into the usb port as it does with an adapter, i think basically hte answer is yes...
[12:18] <Seveas> eestisilk, right, then you selected some wrong things during startup
[12:18] <Seveas> most likely resolution
[12:18] <eestisilk> ok
[12:18] <eestisilk> i try again
[12:18] <jackie> han`: okay, i was looking for a more technical response though - i'm having an argument with someone and need to be able to prove my point ;D
[12:18] <parker> alguien habla espaol?
[12:18] <Seveas> !es
[12:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:19] <eestisilk> Seveas, now i logged in =) where i can find my own documents ?
[12:19] <jackie> parker: si
[12:19] <Seveas> eestisilk, which own documents? You mean on the harddrive?
[12:19] <heien> Seveas, jackie , thx :)
[12:19] <eestisilk> yeah
[12:20] <jackie> heien: no problem dude
[12:20] <Seveas> eestisilk, system -> admin -> disks
[12:20] <askarali> hi
[12:20] <eestisilk> thx a lot ..
[12:20] <jackie> heien: don't mess with your swap if you have very little ram. you could mess something up. and remember to back up anything important before messing with partitions
[12:20] <ulisse> hello tribe!
[12:20] <jackie> hi!
[12:20] <askarali> howto restart network service from cli ?
[12:20] <pinkisntwell> anyone has problems recording? i get too low volumes
[12:21] <han`> jackie, are you asking if an application will see them as different, or if an os/system level/kernel level piece of software would see them as different?
[12:21] <Seveas> askarali, you mean the whole networking subsystem or a specific service?
[12:21] <eestisilk> seveas, can i change some documents, like delete and download new documents in internet ?
[12:21] <ulisse> can someone tell me the difference between a kernel in normal mode and in recovery mode?
[12:21] <mandrakeghost> where do i download ati video driver...it seems that my ati radeon is not working
[12:21] <Seveas> eestisilk, only if your disks are not NTFS
[12:21] <Seveas> !tell mandrakeghost about ati
[12:21] <bimberi> askarali: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[12:21] <eestisilk> thx
[12:21] <Seveas> ulisse, there is no difference
[12:21] <heien> Jacki, i have 512, which i assume is enough, and i know about playing partitions game ;D
[12:22] <Seveas> the difference is that you boot into single user mode instead of multiuser mode
[12:22] <Seveas> (runlevel 1 vs runlevel 2)
[12:22] <ulisse> Seveas, I have a pc that works perfectly in recovery mode (except for HAL) but freezes in normal mode...
[12:22] <parker> i don't have install te sound target creative 24 bits 5.1, help me
[12:22] <Seveas> ulisse, at which point does it freeze?
[12:23] <askarali> bimberi, thanks
[12:23] <topyli> uh-oh. my /home/pub has about 1G free. i have to arrange some space!
[12:23] <mandrakeghost> i have this simple question...if i have downloaded a package
[12:23] <bimberi> askarali: np :)
[12:23] <mandrakeghost> how do i install it?
[12:23] <ulisse> Seveas, after the login, a complete freeze
[12:24] <bimberi> mandrakeghost: sudo dpkg -i file.deb (assuming it's an ubuntu package)
[12:24] <Seveas> ulisse, before or after having a complete desktop?
[12:24] <human_error> topyli, i swapped the 75/100 dpi lines. it worked. thanks youre a genius!
[12:24] <mandrakeghost> if it's a tar.gz
[12:24] <Seveas> mandrakeghost, which pieco of software is it?
[12:24] <topyli> human_error: i'm just old, i remember gnome 1.x :)
[12:24] <mandrakeghost> flash player
[12:24] <Seveas> mandrakeghost, throw it out
[12:25] <mandrakeghost> why/
[12:25] <ulisse> Seveas, after the desktop has loaded, sometimes I can either do something, like open nautilus
[12:25] <Seveas> and apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[12:25] <Seveas> never install something by hand when it is in the repositories
[12:25] <mandrakeghost> can u explain to me what is a repository>
[12:25] <Seveas> ulisse, and it's complete freeze - even <ctrl><alt><f1> fails?
[12:25] <Seveas> mandrakeghost, a big server full of software that Ubuntu provides
[12:26] <Seveas> 17.000 packages
[12:26] <human_error> any suggestions on what irc client to run under rxvt?
[12:26] <bimberi> ubotu: tell mandrakeghost about synaptic
[12:26] <mrkoje> mandrakeghost, a repository is a file system on the internet that contains software packaged for certain linux distros
[12:26] <mandrakeghost> hey it says could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[12:26] <bimberi> ubotu: tell mandrakeghost about repositories
[12:26] <Seveas> human_error, irssi
[12:26] <human_error> thx
[12:26] <ulisse> Seveas, yes, the acpi thing too, and cant't act by ssh, too
[12:26] <Seveas> mandrakeghost, sudp apt-get install ....
[12:26] <topyli> mandrakeghost: we leave it to windows users to wander the Web in search of drivers and software. we just install things with a single command :)
[12:26] <Seveas> ulisse, icky, that's complete...
[12:26] <parker> i dont' have install the lenguage spanish in kubuntu, help
[12:27] <Seveas> any clues from syslog/kern.log ?
[12:27] <mandrakeghost> it says coudln't find package flashplayer
[12:27] <Seveas> parker, system -> administration -> language selector
[12:27] <Seveas> select spanish there, install it, logout, log back in
[12:27] <Seveas> it's flashplayer-mozilla and it's in multiverse
[12:27] <Seveas> you need to enable multiverse
[12:27] <j813> Seveas: I saw somewhere how to make mozilla 64bit to play Flash, does anyone know the link, I lost it after re-installing 5.10, been googling it but cant find it again
[12:27] <Seveas> !tell mandrakeghost about repos
[12:28] <Seveas> j813, only a 32bit chroot would work, which is a pain in the ass
[12:28] <morphix> is there anyway to 'break' a 'patch' command for eggdrop?
[12:28] <mandrakeghost> hey it says couldn find the package
[12:28] <morphix> it seems to not patch anymore :(
[12:28] <topyli> mandrakeghost: there is no such package. try flashplayer-mozilla. you find out package names by searching in the package manager
[12:28] <lok> there is another solution j813
[12:28] <Seveas> lok, hmm, interesting, tell me more :)
[12:28] <j813> yup? change to 32bit :)
[12:28] <lok> use a i386 binary package of mozilla
[12:29] <human_error> ok back, with irssi. wow comfused. haha
[12:29] <Seveas> lok, won't wotk on an amd64 system without a chroot...
[12:29] <mandrakeghost> ok
[12:29] <mandrakeghost> i am sorry...but i am really asking so many stupid questions...is that alright?
[12:29] <lok> Seveas, I use flock like that on a dapper 64
[12:29] <Seveas> hmm
[12:29] <ulisse> Seveas, and so what is a "recovery mode"? I've seen that some modules are missing, but modprobing them don't freeze the pc
[12:29] <j813> found a trick before it did work but lost the link or website
[12:30] <Seveas> mandrakeghost, not stupid questions, you're a beginner :)
[12:30] <Seveas> lok, thanks for the tip, never knew that
[12:30] <mandrakeghost> i did what u told...search flashplayer...but there's none found
[12:30] <viller> hi
[12:30] <Seveas> ulisse, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst to see the differences :)
[12:30] <Seveas> mandrakeghost, did you enable multiverse?
[12:30] <topyli> mandrakeghost: start small, like "flash"
[12:31] <viller> can i reinstall Ubuntu without reformatting the partitions so I can keep my apps and documents?
[12:31] <human_error> mandrakeghost: go to settings, repositories; show disabled repositories, enable multiverse.
[12:31] <parker> how install nvidia drivers for kubuntu?
[12:31] <Seveas> viller, no, why do you want to reinstall?
[12:31] <Seveas> !tell parker about nvidia
[12:31] <bimberi> j813: was it this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78789
[12:31] <heien> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:32] <morphix> ok during compiling something that requires openSSL.. it says cannot locate it.. what is the 'installation dir' for openssl? or how do i find out
[12:32] <morphix> please and thanks.
[12:32] <viller> seveas: because my ubuntu is messed up
[12:32] <Seveas> morphix, sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[12:32] <topyli> human_error: oh yes, if you already havent enable multiverse like human_error says. while you're at it, enable universe too
[12:32] <Seveas> might be libssl0.9-dev
[12:32] <Seveas> viller, in what way?
[12:32] <ulisse> Seveas, I can see a "single" instead of "quiet spalsh" in the kernel parameters, but what does it means? (sorry if I am annoying)
[12:32] <viller> i get this error: can't access tty; job control turned off
[12:32] <morphix> ahh that dev package that it what i was originally after.. dev packages seem to fix everything :P
[12:33] <morphix> thanks a lot Seveas
[12:33] <Seveas> ulisse 'quiet splash' means: default runlevel (multiuser, gdm) with usplash enabled and with no kernel debug information during bootup
[12:33] <Seveas> 'single' means single user mode
[12:33] <topyli> morphix: you need the devel packages whenever you compile stuff
[12:33] <Seveas> aka runlevel 1
[12:33] <mandrakeghost> there's no show disabled repos, enable multi
[12:33] <viller> what does this mean: can't access tty; job control turned off?
[12:34] <topyli> viller: where do you get this error
[12:34] <ulisse> Seveas, and what is the runlevel for the single user?
[12:34] <Seveas> 1
[12:34] <ulisse> tnx
[12:34] <viller> topyli: when i start ubuntu, it starts to load modules, but stops and gives this error
[12:35] <topyli> viller: seems pretty broken :(
[12:35] <viller> toyli: :D
[12:36] <topyli> hard to fix when you have no system ;)
[12:36] <viller> topyli: what folders do i have to backup before i reformat to restore my system afterwards
[12:37] <parker> apt-get install nvidia-glx It does not work
[12:38] <mandrakeghost> i can't install flash...can't see it
[12:38] <parker> Someone can help me
[12:38] <morphix> topyli is there a package i can get that contains all dev packages?
[12:39] <morphix> for later use.
[12:39] <_cw_> YES! I got 100Hz now woohoo I'm getting there ;)
[12:39] <_cw_> Still cant use fglrx driver tho :(
[12:39] <r3tex> what is the default xserver in ubuntu?
[12:39] <morphix> gnome?
[12:39] <_cw_> Think so yea
[12:40] <egonw> morphix: that's not a xserver
[12:40] <bimberi> r3tex: xorg
[12:41] <morphix> oh ok/
[12:41] <morphix> my bad.
[12:41] <parker> apt-get install nvidia-glx It does not work Someone can help me?
[12:41] <bimberi> parker: what doesn't work?
[12:41] <egonw> morphix: use dpkg to list all *-dev package
[12:41] <morphix> how do i do that?
[12:42] <egonw> dpkg -l "*-dev"
[12:42] <morphix> i NEVER use dpkg lol its always been apt-get
[12:42] <egonw> dpkg -l "*-dev" | xargs apt-get install
[12:42] <mamoru> hello. What soft do I need to install to be able to listen .mid files?
[12:42] <parker> He says to me that he does not find files
[12:42] <morphix> ok cool egonw
[12:43] <hai> hello
[12:43] <hai> I need help to install apache2
[12:43] <hai> and tomcat
[12:43] <hai> anybody
[12:43] <hai> pls help
[12:43] <bimberi> mamoru: timidity (guessing)
[12:43] <XLR> apt-get install apache2
[12:43] <topyli> morphix: dpkg has some pretty handy functions too
[12:43] <hai> i get GPG errors
[12:43] <hai> is i use apt-get
[12:43] <XLR> i.e.?
[12:44] <mandrakeghost> hey...i can't get the flashplayer
[12:44] <mandrakeghost> sorry
[12:44] <bimberi> !gpgerr
[12:44] <ubotu> gpgerr is, like, totally, a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal
[12:44] <hai> GPG error - "BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5" invalid
[12:44] <topyli> mandrakeghost: have you enabled the universe and multiverse repositories already?
[12:44] <morphix> oh crap.. i forgot how to specify the install dir during make install :/
[12:44] <NicePerso> hee
[12:45] <parker> algun espaol?
[12:45] <hai> yes
[12:45] <topyli> morphix: --prefix=/usr or whatever you want it to go
[12:45] <hai> XLR: any help?
[12:45] <mandrakeghost> how do i enable..please...i am using a synaptic
[12:45] <topyli> morphix: you give that argument to the configure script though
[12:45] <mandrakeghost> i guess u have to tell me from the basic
[12:45] <XLR> just look what ubotu wrote
[12:46] <morphix> i am talking about during the 'make install
[12:46] <morphix> '
[12:46] <morphix> i think it was, make install DEST=/dir i cant remember :/
[12:46] <mandrakeghost> please
[12:46] <NicePerson> i installed ubuntu, but on after install, the logon window either freezes, or goes to a blank screen with only mouse cursor, nothing else, any ideas anyone ?
[12:46] <mandrakeghost> how do i enable the multiverse and universe in synaptic
[12:47] <sabmann> mandrakeghost, type sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:47] <topyli> mandrakeghost: ok, click settings -> repositories. click settings and tick "show disabled"
[12:47] <sabmann> topyli is right
[12:47] <Alex_BO2> HELLO!I've a problem with dvd decrypter: i have installed it with wine but it can't detect the drive
[12:48] <topyli> mandrakeghost: then tick the universe and multiverse repositories to enable them
[12:48] <mahangu> mandrakeghost, add repositories
[12:48] <parker> for install sound target creative 5.1?
[12:48] <kristian_> how can i make rhythmbox play mp3 files?
[12:49] <topyli> kristian_: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:49] <bimberi> ubotu tell kristian_ about mp3
[12:49] <parker> i don't sound in my computer :(
[12:49] <Alex_BO2> halo?
[12:49] <hai> XLR: I get this error
[12:49] <hai> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/sg.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:49] <hai> when starting synaptic
[12:49] <topyli> hai: click the "refresh" button
[12:49] <bimberi> hai: hit Reload
[12:50] <NicePerson> ubotu
[12:50] <hai> ok
[12:50] <Alex_BO2> hallo? i need help, please
[12:50] <adjkasjdklas> Hello everybody.
[12:51] <parker> help me for install sound target 5.1?
[12:51] <adjkasjdklas> I'm running Ubuntu Hed. and we're wondering, how to make the terminal run just as fluxbox starts. Can anybody help out with some shellscript or something?
[12:52] <mandrakeghost> ok..i just did all that... i still can't find the flashplayer
[12:53] <human_error> if i want to do basic tarball compilations, which package(s) should i apt-get?
[12:53] <AngryParsley> hey, how do I disable the pc speaker?
[12:53] <NicePerson> windows
[12:53] <AngryParsley> I tried using the volume manager, but it doesn't work
[12:53] <NicePerson> disable it
[12:53] <NicePerson> you have to disable it AngryParsley
[12:54] <giany911> angryparsley double click on the sound icon in the tray and mute  the speaker
[12:54] <AngryParsley> giany911: there, I muted it
[12:54] <topyli> mandrakeghost: hit the refresh button and search for flash. it should find quite a bunch of packages
[12:54] <giany911> ;) now ... it must be quiet i think
[12:54] <AngryParsley> of course, now I have no sound
[12:54] <AngryParsley> and it STILL beeps
[12:54] <NicePerson> what a douche bag
[12:55] <giany911> angryparsley
[12:55] <NicePerson> is this a fucking newbie room ?
[12:55] <human_error> AngryParsley: there are a lot of ways programs access the pc speaker. also try xset command. i think it's xset b 0
[12:55] <mandrakeghost> i love u guys...
[12:55] <mandrakeghost> i found it
[12:55] <mandrakeghost> thanks
[12:55] <AngryParsley> human_error: ok
[12:55] <NicePerson> later bitches
[12:55] <AngryParsley> human_error: yay, it worked
[12:55] <topyli> mandrakeghost: good. cheers
[12:55] <mandrakeghost> hey... after flash..
[12:55] <mandrakeghost> i get another problem
[12:55] <mandrakeghost> he he he
[12:55] <mandrakeghost> is that ok?
[12:55] <adjkasjdklas> NicePerson; Yes, this s a fucking newbie room.
[12:55] <AngryParsley> human_error: is that a permanent change or do I need to run that every time I start my computer?
[12:56] <giany911> yea
[12:56] <topyli> mandrakeghost: of course you do :)
[12:56] <mandrakeghost> i have installed vmware...i can't play it
[12:56] <giany911> is there an app ..with which i  can minimize other apps in the tray ?
[12:56] <human_error> AngryParsley: it's not permanent. to make it permanent, you'll have to edit ~/.xinitrc
[12:56] <AngryParsley> human_error: got it
[12:56] <human_error> i'm not sure how that's done though, since i dont use gnome
[12:56] <parker> for install sound target creative 5.1? :(
[12:57] <xophEr> the fam package is broken; wants to remove everything else when installing via apt..
[12:57] <AngryParsley> human_error: actually I think it's .xsession
[12:57] <giany911>  is there an app ..with which i  can minimize other apps in the tray ?
[12:57] <human_error> AngryParsley: yea i recall that file too...
[12:57] <topyli> xophEr: what happens if you try apt-get -f install (with no packages)?
[12:57] <sabmann> giany911, google for alltray
[12:57] <mandrakeghost> is there an app where i can use like WINDOWS CLEANER...
[12:57] <xophEr> havent tried
[12:57] <giany911> sabmann ty
[12:58] <mandrakeghost> something that cleans up cookies and else
[12:58] <parker> for install sound target creative 5.1? :(
[12:58] <topyli> mandrakeghost: those are useless. you can clear your cookies, history, and everything from the firefox preferences
[12:58] <Seveas> mandrakeghost, why would you need that
[12:58] <AngryParsley> human_error: thanks for the help
[12:58] <human_error> AngryParsley: no prob. that beep annoyed me too :)
[12:58] <Seveas> just install adblock and cookie manager etensions for firefox
[12:59] <mandrakeghost> i surf porns and stuff
[12:59] <mandrakeghost> he he he he
[12:59] <topyli> mandrakeghost: there must be a firefox extension to do it in one shot, but i'd never want to do it
[12:59] <sabmann> lol
[12:59] <mandrakeghost> i got good news for u guys
[12:59] <human_error> AngryParsley: if you work in the console at all, use setterm to disable the beep
[12:59] <mandrakeghost> i can already play my mp3s
[12:59] <mandrakeghost> he he he
[01:00] <topyli> mandrakeghost: well, after a steamy porn surf session, clear cache and history and you should be pretty safe from your mom :)
[01:00] <mandrakeghost> i would like to run *.exe files...what are the alternatives
[01:00] <sabmann> mandrakeghost, try windows
[01:00] <hai> I am getting all cranky - PLEASE HELP - i get the following
[01:00] <hai> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:00] <hai> W: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[01:00] <hai> W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[01:00] <hai> W: GPG error: http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:00] <hai> W: GPG error: http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:00] <topyli> mandrakeghost: those must be for some other operating system
[01:01] <hai> in Synaptic
[01:01] <topyli> hai: stop it
[01:01] <hai> sorry
[01:01] <xophEr> topyli, still wants to remove _everything_ :)
[01:01] <sabmann> hai, use pastebin.ubuntu.com if u have large error messages
[01:01] <AngryParsley> heh
[01:02] <human_error> how do i apply a patch to a tar.gz file? do i tar xzvf it first or just gunzip?
[01:02] <bimberi> mandrakeghost: wine, cedega, crossover office
[01:02] <hai> topyli: any help
[01:02] <hai> pls
[01:02] <topyli> hai: ignore the errors, or get the gpg keys
[01:03] <hai> how to get the gpg keys
[01:03] <mandrakeghost> how to set page set up in openoffice?
[01:03] <mandrakeghost> would u recommend vmware though?
[01:04] <hai> topyli: how to get the gpg keys
[01:04] <mandrakeghost> what's this? how do i resolve this...Cannot launch entry
[01:04] <mandrakeghost>  Details: Failed to execute child process "vmplayer" (No such file or directory)
[01:04] <topyli> hai: you have a 1 minute patience :)
[01:04] <sabmann> you guys ever heard of google?
[01:04] <morphix> omg.
[01:05] <morphix> not again
[01:05] <morphix> :@
[01:05] <eth42> hi!
[01:05] <morphix> [23:04]  LANG: No lang files found for section core.
[01:05] <morphix> argh.
[01:05] <eth42> if both eth0 and eth1 are configured, how do I choose which device will be used?
[01:05] <topyli> hai: try the authentication button in preferences -> repositories dialog
[01:05] <eth42> (both have an ip address)
[01:06] <hai> ok thankyou
[01:06] <topyli> hai: you have strange repositories there though. not all of them will have keys
[01:06] <topyli> oh. simpsons
[01:08] <parker> pliss for install the sound target creative 5.1?
[01:08] <soci0path> eth42 system administration networking then set the default gateway device
[01:08] <ulisse> Seveas, I think I killed the beast! I disabled the cpu-freq thing, and the pc seems not freezing, now!
[01:09] <parker> :(
[01:09] <eth42> soci0path: unfortunately, this doesn't work. I've set eth0 but eth1 is used instead... :-/
[01:10] <soci0path> did you click OK?
[01:10] <eth42> soci0path: yes
[01:10] <Ce_Dreaku> hello
[01:10] <Ce_Dreaku> this is my first time here
[01:10] <Ce_Dreaku> My first time with ubuntu
[01:10] <eth42> soci0path: do you know whether there is a command-line tool to set the default network device?
[01:10] <Ce_Dreaku> My first time with linux
[01:10] <bimberi> Ce_Dreaku: welcome :)
[01:10] <eth42> Ce_Dreaku: welcome
[01:10] <eth42> :-)
[01:11] <soci0path> just sudo ifdown eth1
[01:11] <soci0path> then it should use eth0
[01:11] <eth42> soci0path: yes, it does
[01:11] <Ce_Dreaku> can somebody answer some questions for me? preferably in a private channel?
[01:11] <eth42> soci0path: but is there no way to keep both addresses and tell linux which one to use?
[01:12] <soci0path> well mmachine has both active, and setting the default gateway makes it use one or the other
[01:12] <LuVUnTu> does anyone know how i can add opoen terminal on the right click context menu?
[01:12] <eth42> LuVUnTu: you mean in Nautilus?
[01:12] <Badm4n> anyone have optimal squid.conf ? for squid/transparant proxy gateway server only ?
[01:13] <Ce_Dreaku> can somebody answer some questions for me? preferably in a private channel?
[01:13] <eth42> soci0path: mmachine = my machine?
[01:13] <soci0path> Ce_Dreaku, just ask
[01:13] <soci0path> eth42 yes
[01:13] <eth42> soci0path: ok, do you use 5.10 or 5.04?
[01:13] <soci0path> 5.10
[01:14] <eth42> soci0path: ok, then maybe it's just a bug in 5.04...
[01:14] <Ce_Dreaku> I need some software that will act as a catalog for my cd collection to use on ubuntu, any recomendations?
[01:14] <eth42> I'll update soon. :-
[01:14] <eth42> )
[01:14] <eth42> Ce_Dreaku: there is a KDE program for all sorts of collections, don't remember the name
[01:14] <soci0path> i could never get two devices to work in 5.04, but I only tried for a night
[01:15] <eth42> soci0path: hehe :-)
[01:15] <Hobbsee> eth42: were you thinking of basket?
[01:15] <soci0path> Ce_Dreaku, gtktalog
[01:16] <Ce_Dreaku> thx
[01:16] <heien> Hi all When i try to resize my etx3 disk, i get this error: resize2fs: bad filesystem size -114.186M
[01:16] <heien> . What does this mean?
[01:16] <eth42> Hobbsee: no, i think it was something different
[01:16] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:16] <eth42> Hobbsee: something that could also handle bibtex collections
[01:17] <r3tex> bimberi:  how long will it take ubuntu to adopt X11R7?
[01:17] <mandrakeghost> do u know how can i change the look of my ubuntu?
[01:18] <eth42> LuVUnTu: if you want right-click terminal in nautilus (= the gnome file manager) then use the package nautilus-open-terminal
[01:18] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, kde-look.org or gnome-look.org
[01:18] <eth42> mandrakeghost: System / Preferences / Theme
[01:19] <heien> Anyone? :s
[01:19] <mandrakeghost> do u know STYLEXP prog in windows? is there a counterpart of this in linux?
[01:19] <soci0path> heien, what are you using to resize it?
[01:19] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, you mean change the themes cursors ?
[01:20] <SatanGolga> how will i get my wlan0 settings stay after reboot? if u "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper : sudo iwlist wlan0 scan : sudo iwconfig wlan0 channel <X> essid <ESSID> mode Managed : sudo ifup wlan0" it comes up, but doesnt work, and after reboot its all gone, i have "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" in /etc/modules and "map wlan0 : iface wlan0 inet dhcp : auto wlan0" in /etc/network/interfaces, have i missed anything?
[01:20] <wickedpuppy> i mean themes and cursors
[01:21] <mandrakeghost> i mean eeverything
[01:21] <mandrakeghost> the looks
[01:21] <heien> soci0path, gparted
[01:21] <Toma-> SatanGolga: you only need to put "ndiswrapper" in /etc/modules, not the whole lot
[01:21] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, have you looked at what we suggested ?
[01:21] <soci0path> heien, and are you getting the error while you are doing it, or after you have done it?
[01:21] <mandrakeghost> ok i haven't sorry
[01:21] <Toma-> mandrakeghost: get "gnome-art"
[01:21] <SatanGolga> Toma-: i've only got "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" in /etc/modules
[01:22] <Toma-> SatanGolga: you only need "ndiswrapper"
[01:22] <Toma-> not the whole command
[01:22] <SatanGolga> aha, anything else?
[01:22] <mandrakeghost> thanks...
[01:22] <parker> i don't have install the sound targer 5.1 creative... help me?
[01:23] <Ratty_> hi chaps
[01:23] <heien> While im doing it, i'm running it i a console,
[01:23] <Toma-> "it comes up, but doesnt work".... explain doesnt work... wont ping?
[01:23] <Ratty_> i just installed ubuntu 5.10, i set my clock to 12hours but it's not showing am/pm on the end, how would i fix this?
[01:23] <wickedpuppy> parker, can you rephrase ?
[01:23] <SatanGolga> yeah, exactly, can u reload your settings, like refreshing
[01:23] <heien> soci0path, cp @ you in priv
[01:24] <mandrakeghost> what does this mean? You can now run VMware Virtual Machine Player by invoking the following command:"/usr/vmplayer".
[01:24] <Toma-> Ratty_: right click the clock and change it
[01:24] <wickedpuppy> Ratty_, right click on the clock ... preference
[01:24] <Ratty_> err
[01:24] <Ratty_> there's no option for that
[01:24] <wickedpuppy> Ratty_, there is
[01:24] <soci0path> heien, are yoiu trying to resize a volume that you are using?  I've always used gpartd on a boot cd
[01:24] <Toma-> SatanGolga: like, revert to the installed settings?
[01:24] <Ratty_> there's only 4 options, clock type, show seconds, show date, use utx
[01:24] <Ratty_> utc
[01:24] <Sanne> Ratty_: mine shows PM when set to 12 hour format
[01:24] <Ratty_> well mine doesn't
[01:25] <Ratty_> it's a 12 hour clock, but no am/pm on the end
[01:25] <heien> soci0path, i've unmounted the partion, and the swap partion with the umount and swapoff -a
[01:25] <wickedpuppy> Ratty_, we are talking about the clock at the top right hand corner ... right ?
[01:25] <han`> bad install cds are driving me nuts
[01:25] <Ratty_> yes
[01:25] <mandrakeghost> what does this mean? You can now run VMware Virtual Machine Player by invoking the following command:"/usr/vmplayer".
[01:25] <wickedpuppy> Ratty_, pls right click on it ... what you see ?
[01:25] <parker> wickedpuppy, Since I can install the sound targeta 5.1 of creative, I do not have sound in ubuntu
[01:25] <SatanGolga> Toma-: i mean, its active, but has the idling status, rec: 0 packets, sent: 0 packets and no ip
[01:25] <Sanne> Ratty_: funny, maybe there is some global time format setting in Gnome?
[01:25] <frogzoo> when installing azureus, do you have to use Sun's JRE? can't seem to find the multiverse j2re1.4 mentioned in the wiki
[01:26] <Ratty_> wickedpuppy: there's only 4 options, clock type, show seconds, show date, use utc
[01:26] <Toma-> brb sorry
[01:26] <bimberi> Ratty_: do you see all of the "Trash Can" icon on the bottom right?
[01:26] <Ratty_> yes
[01:26] <wickedpuppy> Ratty_, i do not see those options when i right click ...
[01:26] <bimberi> Ratty_: k (you can probably guess what i was thinking :) )
[01:26] <Ratty_> oh, you mean the menu
[01:26] <parker>  Since I can install the sound targeta 5.1 of creative, I do not have sound in ubuntu
[01:27] <mahangu> gnome art is 98mb once unpacked
[01:27] <mandrakeghost> what does this mean? You can now run VMware Virtual Machine Player by invoking the following command:"/usr/vmplayer".
[01:27] <mahangu> wtf?
[01:27] <soci0path> mandrakeghost, it means type /usr/vmplayer in  a comand line
[01:27] <Ratty_> for 1pm it shows: 01:27:43
[01:27] <kristian_> why is my ubuntu failing when i type "sudo apt-get install acroread" ?
[01:27] <mandrakeghost> just like that
[01:28] <Ratty_> i want it to add the PM on the end
[01:28] <_cw_> Could anyone help me installing Firefox 1.5Rc3?
[01:28] <mandrakeghost> ok thanks soc0path
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> Ratty_, i am confused .. when i right click ... i see other options
[01:29] <_cw_> I've tried unpacking it, but I cant find any working executable?
[01:29] <Ratty_> what option do you want
[01:29] <Ratty_> i'm too lazy to type every single one
[01:29] <wickedpuppy> preference
[01:29] <Hobbsee> _cw_: did you follow the wiki page?
[01:29] <Ratty_> ok
[01:29] <Ratty_> now what
[01:29] <wickedpuppy> _cw_, you downloaded which one ?
[01:29] <Sanne> _cw_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:30] <wickedpuppy> Ratty_, there should be option to change the format
[01:30] <Ratty_> i know
[01:30] <_cw_> Hobbsee, Thanks ;)
[01:30] <Ratty_> it's already 12 hour format
[01:30] <Ratty_> that's not my problem
[01:30] <_cw_> U too Sanne ;)
[01:30] <Sanne> _cw_: :)
[01:30] <Hobbsee> hehe give Sanne the credit for getting the page!  but i edited that wiki page :_
[01:30] <wickedpuppy> ok then ... i must have lost somewhere
[01:30] <Hobbsee> *:)
[01:30] <Ratty_> my problem is it's not showing am/pm on the end
[01:31] <Ratty_> even though it's a 12 hour clock
[01:31] <Sanne> Hobbsee: haha, cool, then than you from me too :)
[01:31] <Hobbsee> :) i didnt fully write it - i only updated it from rc1/2 to 3
[01:32] <Ratty_> date +%r outputs: 1:32:24
[01:32] <Ratty_> no am/pm
[01:32] <mandrakeghost> why is it that sometimes...download just stops
[01:33] <Ratty_> so it's not gnome
[01:33] <mandrakeghost> where can i download cedega?
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, how to answer that question ?
[01:33] <topyli> Ratty_: LC_TIME is the variable i guess
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, www.transgaming.com
[01:33] <Ratty_> oh
[01:33] <Ratty_> what should that be, it's blank
[01:34] <topyli> Ratty_: i don't know. something that gives you the desired format :)
[01:34] <Ratty_> hmz
[01:34] <Ratty_> why doesn't it do it automatically?
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> Ratty_, its fine on my com ..
[01:35] <Ratty_> what language is it set to though?
[01:35] <Ratty_> i'm guessing it only works on american
[01:35] <wickedpuppy> english ... of course
[01:35] <Ratty_> there are many englishes
[01:35] <Ratty_> mines en_GB
[01:35] <topyli> Ratty_: type locale and it will print your whole environment
[01:35] <wickedpuppy> true ... en_us i think ... but what does am/pm got to do with locales ?
[01:35] <Ratty_> en_GB.UTF-8
[01:36] <Ratty_> different languages spell am/pm differently
[01:36] <topyli> Ratty_: shouldn't gb english have am/pm anyway?
[01:36] <wickedpuppy> ....
[01:37] <wickedpuppy> thats what i am wondering
[01:37] <wickedpuppy> whatever the english , am/pm is am/pm .... as long as its english
[01:37] <topyli> Ratty_: dunno, my LC_TIME is en_US.UTF-8 and i get a nice 24h date
[01:37] <Ratty_> LC_TIME="en_GB.UTF-8"
[01:38] <topyli> it's probably not a locale thing anyway
[01:38] <Ratty_> i don't want 24, that works though
[01:38] <wickedpuppy> topyli, can you change to 12 hours on ya side ?
[01:38] <wickedpuppy> mine works ... want to double check
[01:39] <mahangu> is there anyway to load a lot of packages on to a set of CDs
[01:39] <mahangu> i have a friend who doesn't have net access
[01:39] <Ratty_> how do i change my locle, so i can test it
[01:40] <topyli> wickedpuppy: my gnome clock shows 2:39PM like it should
[01:40] <mandrakeghost> is cross over offce free?
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, clearly not
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> wine is
[01:40] <mandrakeghost> ok..
[01:40] <mandrakeghost> is there anyway i can run photoshop?
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, crossover office can
[01:40] <yatesy> using wine or one of its varients
[01:41] <BigKahuna> i386, i486, i586 - what is difference when it comes to package compatibility?
[01:41] <topyli> Ratty_: you can change any variable in a terminal: LC_ALL=fi_FI.UTF-8 date
[01:41] <mandrakeghost> how much is cross over?
[01:41] <topyli> ratty to see what happens
[01:41] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, google it ? i forgot the company name
[01:41] <wickedpuppy> lol
[01:41] <mandrakeghost> lol
[01:41] <_cw_> I followed the install instructions on the wiki to install firefox rc3, now I get: Cannot launch icon
[01:41] <_cw_> Details: Failed to execute child process "firefox" (Permission denied)
[01:42] <mandrakeghost> is there anyone here who's using VMWARE?
[01:42] <_cw_> What do i do?
[01:42] <Ratty_> that output a 24 hours clock
[01:42] <topyli> Ratty_: actually nothing seems to happen here :)
[01:42] <_null> mandrakeghost, yes
[01:42] <heien> Hi all When i try to resize my etx3 disk, i get this error: resize2fs: bad filesystem size -114.186M
[01:42] <mandrakeghost> whoew..i can relate now to matchbox 20's line "I FEEL STUPID...
[01:42] <mandrakeghost> hey null...
[01:42] <mandrakeghost> i guess u can help me
[01:42] <mandrakeghost> with the installation
[01:42] <Ratty_> ah ha
[01:43] <Ratty_> this drops the am/pm LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8 date +%r
[01:43] <_null> mandrakeghost, of course.. qry me
[01:43] <Ratty_> this works: LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 date +%r
[01:43] <frogzoo> anyone succeeded installing 'java-package' from multiverse on breezy?
[01:43] <Ratty_> so it IS a locale problem
[01:43] <wickedpuppy> queen is going to be mad
[01:43] <wickedpuppy> she can't get am/pm cause she is british
[01:43] <wickedpuppy> sigh
[01:43] <Hobbsee> _cw_: does sudo firefox work?
[01:43] <mandrakeghost> how do i pm u>
[01:43] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, /query nick
[01:43] <topyli> Ratty_: actually smells a little like a bug
[01:43] <_cw_> Hobbsee, No
[01:43] <frogzoo> Hobbsee: no reason why not, but bad idea all the same
[01:44] <Ratty_> can i modify the locale so GB does output am/pm?
[01:44] <Hobbsee> yeah, i know it is, i was more looking to see if it was a chown solution, or what
[01:44] <wickedpuppy> topyli, can ya change ya locale then test ?
[01:44] <_cw_> Hobbsee, But firefix.ubuntu works...
[01:44] <mandrakeghost> hey null...
[01:44] <_cw_> firefox even..
[01:44] <_null> mandrakeghost, whats your problem?
[01:44] <mandrakeghost> i seem to have installed vmware...but can't seem to run it
[01:45] <_null> mandrakeghost, maybe my blog will help you... give me a sec
[01:45] <frogzoo> anyone get azureus working on breezy? having trouble installing Sun jre...
[01:45] <mandrakeghost> ok
[01:45] <topyli> wickedpuppy: if you set locales in a terminal window, they will stick for that termial
[01:45] <Hobbsee> _cw_: did you follow the tutorial to the end, including the mv commands?
[01:45] <human_error> where can i get the default sources.list?
[01:45] <bigfoot1> how do i install a package located at https://acs.barrapunto.org/svn/f-spot/?
[01:45] <_null> mandrakeghost, http://www.blaue0.net/p-vmware-on-ubuntu/
[01:45] <mandrakeghost> my girlfriend would love me for this...he he he i can run  now zuma.exe on my linux
[01:46] <jfletcher> frogzoo: it was fine for me
[01:46] <jfletcher> frogzoo: are you trying to apt-get install jre?
[01:46] <Hobbsee> _cw_: including " sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox"
[01:46] <jfletcher> bigfoot1: if it is a .deb, wget the file, then dpkg -i file.deb
[01:46] <_cw_> Hobbsee, Yes. Allthough I didnt backup bookmarks and stuff since I dont have any
[01:46] <Hobbsee> _cw_: try  sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox again
[01:46] <_null> mandrakeghost, let me know if that helps you
[01:46] <frogzoo> jfletcher: I can't seem to apt-get 'java-package' :(
[01:46] <_cw_> Hobbsee, Ok.
[01:46] <bigfoot1> jfletcher: there's no deb in that directory.
[01:47] <jfletcher> frogzoo: Don't, follow the guide on ubuntu wiki.
[01:47] <mandrakeghost> ok
[01:47] <_cw_> Hobbsee, lol now I get :sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox
[01:47] <jfletcher> bigfoot1: what extention?
[01:47] <Ratty_> hmz :| so is it bugged, and can i fix it?
[01:47] <_cw_> Hobbsee, dpkg-divert: Cannot divert directories
[01:47] <_cw_> You need --help.
[01:47] <topyli> Ratty_: easiest to set LANG=whatever in a terminal window. test with locale, or echo $LC_whatever
[01:47] <Alex_BO2> HELLO!when you convert a DVD into a DivX, does the cpu work at 100%?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> _cw_: if that doesnt work, delete /opt/firefox and start the tutorial again, i guess
[01:47] <frogzoo> jfletcher: no, of course not - that would very obviously be the wrong thing to do ;) - so is there a guide?
[01:47] <_cw_> Hobbsee, Ok thanks.
[01:47] <bigfoot1> jfletcher: i'm not sure. I was told that the package is there.
[01:48] <jfletcher> bigfoot1: just wget the file, to start with, and if it's tar.gz, just do tar -zxf filename.tar.gz + makefile or whatever
[01:48] <mandrakeghost> ok..so i need vm workstation
[01:48] <human_error> where can i get the default sources.list?
[01:48] <Hobbsee> _cw_: i think you'll want firefox and mozilla-firefox from the repositories installed as well...
[01:48] <jfletcher> bigfoot1: packages are usually in deb format
[01:48] <Hobbsee> but i need to sleep - night all
[01:48] <mandrakeghost> i only want vmplayer to run
[01:48] <mandrakeghost> is that ok?
[01:48] <jfletcher> frogzoo: yeah, look for it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:48] <Ratty_> this fixes it, export LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
[01:48] <Ratty_> but is there no way i can modify the en_GB so it works?
[01:48] <frogzoo> jfletcher: I'm taking it from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:48] <bigfoot1> jfletcher: i'm a newbie. please take a look if you could.
[01:49] <_null> mandrakeghost, oh. didn't try that though... but what does it write to console?
[01:49] <jfletcher> frogzoo: yep
[01:49] <jfletcher> bigfoot1: URL?
[01:49] <topyli> Ratty_: someone wrote it, so it can be fixed too. :)
[01:49] <Ratty_> but how?
[01:49] <Ratty_> is the time format stored in plaintext somewhere?
[01:49] <mandrakeghost> oh. didn't try that though... but what does it write to console?
[01:50] <mandrakeghost> sorry...what's that
[01:50] <frogzoo> jfletcher: right - well there's a step "sudo apt-get install java-package' and it can't find the package :(
[01:50] <topyli> Ratty_: i would file a bug. if it really _is_ a bug instead of a strange british feature
[01:50] <Ratty_> i'm british, and never heard of us dropping am/pm off our clocks
[01:50] <_null> mandrakeghost, is there any output why it won't run?
[01:50] <jfletcher> frogzoo: hm, why not just download the java .tar from the java.sun.com
[01:51] <jfletcher> Ratty_: we do? :s
[01:51] <mandrakeghost> yeah
[01:51] <mandrakeghost> Cannot launch entry followed by Details: Failed to execute child process "vmplayer" (No such file or directory)
[01:51] <bigfoot1> jfletcher: https://acs.barrapunto.org/svn/f-spot/
[01:52] <Fyfey> How do I go about asking a question? I'm new to IRC channels
[01:52] <_null> mandrakeghost, hm..
[01:52] <Ratty_> i guess i'll have to be all americanised :(
[01:52] <Ratty_> or i should say americanized
[01:52] <Seveas> Fyfey, just ask :)
[01:52] <frogzoo> Fyfey: just ask - leap in
[01:52] <ahoora> hi
[01:52] <mandrakeghost> anything?
[01:52] <ahoora> can some one help me plz?
[01:53] <jfletcher> bigfoot1: get the whole thing + jjust do ./configure and then ./install
[01:53] <ahoora> i want to share my internet connection
[01:53] <jfletcher> bigfoot1: THere's a readme too
[01:53] <frogzoo> ahoora: pls, just ask your question
[01:53] <topyli> Ratty_: oh, one variable in your locale won't ruin your identity =)
[01:53] <Seveas> ahoora, install firestarter, it has a one-click solution
[01:53] <Fyfey> I downloaded the iso via BT on windows... how do I verify the MD5? As I'm haveing problems installing
[01:53] <SatanGolga> ok, now it works to load active wlan0 after reboot, but it is still status: idle rec: 0 packets sent: 0 packets and no ip, anyone got any clues how to get connected?
[01:53] <Seveas> !md5
[01:53] <ubotu> hmm... md5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[01:53] <lajuj> I was trying to get vmware to work on ubuntu and I accidently installed the wrong linux headers.  If I go ahead and install the right headers for my version will that correct any damage I may have done?
[01:53] <Seveas> ^-- Fyfey
[01:53] <mandrakeghost> i have this stupid question...will reading LINUX for DUMMIES help me with UBUNTU?
[01:53] <_null> mandrakeghost, sorry, but I don't really know vmware player...
[01:53] <Fyfey> nice, thanks!! :-D
[01:53] <ahoora> sevas how can i install that?
[01:53] <mandrakeghost> ok
[01:54] <Seveas> ahoora, system -> admin -> synaptic
[01:54] <frogzoo> Fyfey: there's an option to verify cd in the install menu - what speed u burn at?
[01:54] <mandrakeghost> what's the use of vmware-workstation?
[01:54] <Seveas> search for forestarter
[01:54] <mandrakeghost> explain please
[01:54] <Seveas> firestarter even...
[01:54] <_null> mandrakeghost, it has a lot more features and you can create new virtual machines...
[01:54] <topyli> mandrakeghost: sure. the dummies book probably has the essentials
[01:54] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, it allows you to run windows or other OS
[01:54] <Fyfey> I was burning at 52x, someone said once if the disc is 52 compatible it wont matter. But I now know otherwise
[01:54] <mandrakeghost> ok
[01:54] <bigfoot1> jfletcher: thanks !!!
[01:54] <mandrakeghost> thanks
[01:55] <mandrakeghost> it's really nice here...this is my first time being here and i am starting to like it...
[01:55] <jfletcher> bigfoot1: it worked?
[01:55] <shingoki> Does anyone know when mono 1.1.10 might get into breezy?
[01:55] <shingoki> or are versions fixed after release?
[01:55] <_null> shingoki, try another repo for mono
[01:55] <_null> shingoki, deb http://debian.meebey.net/ ./
[01:55] <shingoki> Yeah I think there is a repo somewhere
[01:56] <shingoki> ah ha, thanks
[01:56] <_null> np ;)
[01:56] <mandrakeghost> where can i download xxx movies for linux?
[01:56] <mandrakeghost> ha ha ha ha
[01:56] <ahoora> seveas it is not in the list
[01:56] <shingoki> I'm trying to get nemerle 0.9.1 installed from the nemerle repo, and it needs mono 1.1.10
[01:56] <bigfoot1> jfletcher: well, i'll try another program first. looks like this one is not very stable, from reading the readme
[01:57] <SatanGolga> is there a refresh/reload/repair-function for interfaces?
[01:58] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, i don't know there are xxx movies for linux ... i thought they can be run everywhere
[01:58] <ahoora> can someone tell me how can i share internet in ubuntu plz ?
[01:58] <SatanGolga> like wlan0 that is
[01:58] <topyli> shingoki: mono 1.1.0 will never be in breezy. i built my own packages from debian sources
[01:59] <frogzoo> SatanGolga: it's called 'vi /etc/network/interfaces'
[01:59] <shingoki> I think that meebey repository is fine
[01:59] <shingoki> Hopefully dapper will have 1.1.10?
[01:59] <Fyfey> SatanGolga use dhclient ethX if you just want to get a new address etc
[02:00] <SatanGolga> Fyfey: but i dont get a address at all
[02:00] <topyli> shingoki: it will have whatever is latest at release time (actually, feature freeze time)
[02:00] <shingoki> ah good
[02:00] <mandrakeghost> i can't run *.wmv format or *.asf
[02:00] <frogzoo> SatanGolga: i think maybe you need to run 'sudo ppoeconf'
[02:00] <shingoki> It only seems to be a problem with stuff like that, that is still in pretty rapid development
[02:00] <Fyfey> is the interface listed in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:00] <mandrakeghost> what would i do?
[02:00] <frogzoo> *pppoeconf*
[02:01] <Elektrochelovek> ifconfig
[02:01] <SatanGolga> frogzoo: ok
[02:01] <SatanGolga> yes, its active and up
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> !windowscodecs
[02:01] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> ah hmms ..
[02:01] <bigfoot1> to people with digital cameras OR those with lots of digital images on their PC, what program do you use to sort/view your pics?
[02:01] <mandrakeghost> i can't run *.wmv format or *.asf
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> !wmv
[02:02] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:02] <bigfoot1> do you use only gThumb? or f-spot? or what?
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, follow the link ubotu showed above
[02:03] <mandrakeghost> ok
[02:03] <mandrakeghost> how old are u guys
[02:03] <Fyfey> SatanGolga: Is it an ethernet interface?
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> mandrakeghost, i am 22 ... been using linux since 15
[02:03] <mandrakeghost> bad of me...i am a computer boy trapped in civil engr's body
[02:03] <Fyfey> im 19, pretty new to linux
[02:04] <bigfoot1> wickedpuppy: i'm a quarter of a century and 3 weeks.
[02:04] <mandrakeghost> i wish i had known linux since i was at ur age
[02:04] <adina> wow - i am impressed... Ubuntu is working great on my Toshiba Satellite P10-304....
[02:04] <topyli> in any group of 550 people, people are probably of many ages. i'm 35 btw
[02:04] <SatanGolga> Fyfey: it's a wireless wlan0
[02:04] <mandrakeghost> i've got another thing to solve...my infrared port won't read
[02:05] <adina> I have just one irritating problem... full screen video has horizontal noise lines through it... anyone know how to fix this?
[02:05] <Fyfey> Darn, I have no expirience with wireless
[02:05] <mandrakeghost> where do wallpapers and themes should be saved?
[02:05] <topyli> mandrakeghost: as a luck test, you could just install irda-utils and see if it sets IR up automagically :)
[02:06] <robotgeek> Fyfey: if you can hold on for a few minutes, i could probably help you
[02:06] <mahangu_> mandrakeghost, anywhere really - you can load them up as long as you kno wwhere you saved them
[02:06] <robotgeek> oops, i think i got the wrong person
[02:06] <mahangu_> Fyfey, what is your wifi card?
[02:06] <robotgeek> SatanGolga: if you can hold on for a few minutes, i could probably help you
[02:06] <mahangu_> ill try and help you
[02:06] <SatanGolga> robotgeek: sure, thx :)
[02:06] <Fyfey> It's Satan
[02:06] <mandrakeghost> topyli: how?
[02:06] <mahangu_> Fyfey, wtf?
[02:07] <robotgeek> meanwhile, all people needing wireless help can read
[02:07] <robotgeek> !wireless
[02:07] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:07] <Fyfey> i was trying to help satan, lol
[02:07] <AlastorM> Hi
[02:07] <topyli> mandrakeghost: like any package. fire up synaptic, search for irda-utils and install it
[02:08] <AlastorM> Got an ADSL USB Amigo PTI 800 modem... How to install it on Hoary ?
[02:08] <mandrakeghost> thanks
[02:08] <SatanGolga> Linksys WPC54G  Haven't managed to get it working yet!  :(
[02:08] <mahangu_> AlastorM, why dont you upgrade to breezy?
[02:08] <mandrakeghost> why is it that my realplayer won't play
[02:09] <Redleer> someone can help me? my ubuntu wont start it freezes just before should come login screen (mayby missing that info) how to fix this?
[02:09] <adina> anyone have suggestions for horizontal scan lines on my laptop using full screen playback of avi files?
[02:09] <mandrakeghost> what about mmc card reader?
[02:09] <AlastorM> mahangu by the way.. ive already ordered the cds... But its been a wile (like 6 month) and no news
[02:09] <AlastorM> 6 weeks sorry xD
[02:09] <lillpelle> Redleer: What graphics card do you have? what drivers?
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> AlastorM, it will take more than that ... mine took 4 months
[02:10] <AlastorM> :O
[02:10] <Redleer> radeon x800 have updated drivers using some help what i found from site
[02:10] <gnomefreak> mine took about 2 months :)
[02:10] <Redleer> it worked before
[02:10] <AlastorM> 4 months???? it says 4 to 6 weeks :S
[02:10] <mandrakeghost> why's my totem not working?
[02:10] <nexyon> hello
[02:11] <gnomefreak> AlastorM, sometimes they get behind it happens they are free
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> AlastorM, i am in asia :P
[02:11] <AlastorM> Je
[02:11] <AlastorM> Well... so... i downloaded the drivers for my modem but it has no executable or readme file =/ it is .tar.gz
[02:11] <lillpelle> Redleer: I've never played with ATI cards, so I probably don't know what it could be. Maybe you have some info from the logs? (/var/log/Xorg.0.log or similar)
[02:11] <AlastorM> And im new at linux so ... no much idea
[02:12] <gnomefreak> AlastorM, if you go to www.ubuntu.com and log into the shipit area it will tell you where they are in the process
[02:12] <mahangu_> AlastorM, untar it and compile it
[02:12] <mahangu_> AlastorM, where did you download i tfrom?
[02:12] <Redleer> i think that login page info is missing i looked around removed something and didnt find way to add it back.
[02:12] <mahangu_> i got my CDs yesterday :)
[02:12] <AlastorM> mahangu mmmm cant remember =/ but im sure its for my modem
[02:12] <AlastorM> how to compile?
[02:12] <Fyfey> How much chance is there of corrupting a file transferring it across to and from my debian box from windows?
[02:13] <nexyon> I've got this quest: find all files that contain the string "X11" on the third line, how can I solve it? I tried around with find, head, tail and grep for a while but I didn't got it to run
[02:14] <topyli> mandrakeghost: i have no idea how your players are different from mine. mine work because i've installed codecs for them
[02:14] <AlastorM>  5 CDs requested in 2005-10-11. 5 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2005-10-13. Please note orders usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping
[02:14] <Elektrochelovek> !yacc
[02:14] <ubotu> Elektrochelovek: Syntax error in line 1
[02:14] <topyli> mandrakeghost: realplayer has other issues, with the sound server for example, but then it's pretty useless anyway
[02:15] <mahangu_> topyli, however, for some content, realplayer is a must have
[02:15] <mahangu_> mandrakeghost, rp sucks, but if you MUST use it, do a "killall esd" first
[02:15] <frogzoo> nexyon: we're not here to do your homework ;)
[02:16] <topyli> mahangu_: yeah. the browser plugin is essential for stuff like news
[02:16] <AlastorM> mahangu_ sorry, so i untar it and then how i compile it?
[02:16] <Termy> How do I uninstall Ubuntu?
[02:16] <mahangu_> AlastorM, where did you download the file?
[02:16] <AlastorM> cant tell
[02:16] <mahangu_> Termy, format that partition?
[02:16] <AlastorM> Dont know
[02:16] <mahangu_> TerminX, what do you wanna do?
[02:16] <frogzoo> AlastorM: probably make config ; make ?
[02:16] <mahangu_> AlastorM, try "make install"
[02:16] <AlastorM> frogzoo ?
[02:16] <SatanGolga> robotgeek: u think it'll work with Linksys WPC54G?
[02:16] <mahangu_> sorry
[02:16] <AlastorM> Ok :)
[02:16] <mahangu_> yes, ask frogzoo
[02:17] <Termy> I tried deleting the data off my linux partition, but Grub started complaining and I had to reinstall Ubuntu back onto the Partition.
[02:17] <mahangu_> :P
[02:17] <ubuntu_> fuck
[02:17] <nexyon> frogzoo: I just need help, how I can only test the 3rd line in a file... I already tried around for an hour :-(
[02:17] <mahangu_> Termy, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst manually
[02:17] <frogzoo> nexyon: find someone else to do your homework :P
[02:17] <mandrakeghost> hey _null i am installing vmware already
[02:17] <topyli> Termy: i'd rather get rid fo grub :)
[02:17] <mahangu_> ubuntu, watch the language mate
[02:17] <mandrakeghost> should i just say yes...
[02:17] <Termy> How to get rid of grub, and linux, and have XP Auto-boot straight away?
[02:17] <mandrakeghost> will u guide me please
[02:18] <mahangu_> Termy, OMG SACRILEGE
[02:18] <mahangu_> im kidding
[02:18] <Termy> o.0
[02:18] <mahangu_> but seriously, i have no idea
[02:18] <mahangu_> sorry
[02:18] <nexyon> frogzoo: where? :-)
[02:18] <Termy> Argh.
[02:19] <topyli> Termy: fix the mbr windows-way. boot the xp install cd and try to get some panic console where you can run fixmbr
[02:19] <frogzoo> Termy: you probably want something like 'fixmbr' - try google
[02:19] <Termy> Thanks
[02:19] <mandrakeghost> what does "killall_esd" do?
[02:19] <frogzoo> mandrakeghost: well 'killall esd' kills all procs with esd in proc name
[02:19] <topyli> Termy: get rid of the linux partitions first, xp might not be able to "fix" them
[02:19] <mahangu_> mandrakeghost, it's killall esd no underscore
[02:20] <Termy> Well that helps. First option on Google for fixmbr: A FixMBR Tool on microsoft.com
[02:20] <mahangu_> TerminX, yeah use that
[02:20] <mandrakeghost> explain further please
[02:20] <robotgeek> SatanGolga: kk, back
[02:20] <mandrakeghost> where;s _null
[02:20] <mandrakeghost> wew
[02:20] <frogzoo> Termy: boot the xp disk in recovery mode - fixmbr is there
[02:20] <topyli> Termy: if you enter "linux" into the ms knowsedge base, i'm sure you get 200 hits of "how to remove linux" :)
[02:20] <Termy> Thanks.
[02:20] <_null> mandrakeghost, hm?
[02:20] <mahangu_> Topslakr, heh
[02:21] <mahangu_> topyli, HEH
[02:21] <mahangu_> sorry
[02:21] <mandrakeghost> hey _null i have here "In which directory do you want to install the manual files?
[02:21] <mandrakeghost>  [/man]
[02:21] <SatanGolga> robotgeek: ok
[02:21] <_null> mandrakeghost, /opt/vmware/man for example
[02:22] <mandrakeghost> ok...so should i just click enter?
[02:22] <robotgeek> SatanGolga: put your wireless card in, and type in a terminal 'lspci' tell me the pci id of the wireless card xxxx:xxxx
[02:22] <AlastorM> I found it
[02:22] <_null> mandrakeghost, no enter the path
[02:22] <mandrakeghost> the /man
[02:22] <mandrakeghost> or the one just type
[02:22] <AlastorM> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/accessrunner/usbatm-20050216.tar.bz2?download  There is where i got the drivers!... its .tar.bz2
[02:23] <_null> mandrakeghost, /opt/vmware/man/
[02:23] <SatanGolga> robotgeek: 0000:06:00.0
[02:24] <mahangu_> AlastorM, do tar -xjvf <filename.tar>
[02:24] <viller> topyli: sorry i let before
[02:24] <viller> left*
[02:24] <AlastorM> ok
[02:24] <AlastorM> Then
[02:24] <AlastorM> ?
[02:24] <mahangu_> AlastorM, did it create a folder structure?
[02:24] <mandrakeghost> sheesh ..i got this Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[02:24] <mandrakeghost> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware
[02:24] <mandrakeghost> Workstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your
[02:24] <mandrakeghost> kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/vmware-config.pl
[02:24] <mandrakeghost> with CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[02:24] <AlastorM> Cant say, i must reboot my pc to access ubuntu
[02:24] <viller> i want to reinstall my ubuntu but keep everything (including applications) like they were before, what folders do I have to backup?
[02:25] <AlastorM> Dont got the modem installed xD
[02:25] <_null> mandrakeghost, run CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 ./vmware-install.pl
[02:25] <mahangu_> mandrakeghost, dont paste in here please
[02:25] <mahangu_> AlastorM, why must you reboot?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mandrakeghost about paste
[02:25] <topyli> viller: /home for sure. anything else may be broken since you're reinstalling :)
[02:26] <mandrakeghost> ok
[02:26] <mandrakeghost> sorry
[02:26] <viller> topyli: thanks i luv u
[02:26] <AlastorM> right now im in windows... Cant connect to internet in ubuntu (dont got the modem configurated)
[02:26] <pinkisntwell> how can i get good video playback in ubuntu? when i seek the playback gets messed up
[02:26] <mahangu_> np
[02:26] <mahangu_> AlastorM, oh
[02:26] <mahangu_> AlastorM, ADSL modem?
[02:26] <AlastorM> yeap
[02:26] <AlastorM> thats what im trying to configure =D
[02:26] <mahangu_> AlastorM, dont you have backup pc to get online with until we work this out?
[02:26] <topyli> viller: you can save the package list though. type dpkg --get-selections > /floppy/packages.txt (make sure you actually have a mounted floppy there)
[02:26] <mandrakeghost> i think my video card driver is not working that perfectly
[02:27] <AlastorM> I wish i have...
[02:27] <mahangu_> mandrakeghost, what makes you think that?