[07:32] <tRSS> i would like to apt-get dapper, but I just can't find what changes I need to make in my sources.list to achieve this. wiki tells me that i need to access this site: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666, but this site is not working. I would appreciate some help here.
[07:32] <Greyscale> Right
[07:32] <zeelot> anto9us:yes you got it
[07:32] <SurfnKid> r0xoR,  thats what i was wondering, in NT that was impossible cuz of the stupid HB
[07:32] <AskHL> jjroper, /msg sends a message. ubotu is the channel bot, which has a number of standard help commands. It'll probably send you a link where you can read the desired information
[07:32] <mike-e> !easysource
[07:32] <anto9us> zeelot, ifconfig I mean
[07:32] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:32] <wastrel> don't be sad
[07:32] <r0xoR> tRSS, please read the channel topic
[07:32] <GianLuigiBuffon> I have dapper installed.... upgraded from breezy.... downloading the desktop CD will fix the problems? or will better to re-install all?
[07:32] <Bugs> ifconfig /all
[07:32] <zeelot> anto9us: yes if config
[07:32] <Greyscale> Some one point me to a guide to using ndiswrapper on 6.06 please?
[07:33] <h3h_timo> i just updated!!! yes... but last time when i upgraded to the rc... after i restarted my ethernet was all messed up.. im afraid to reboot now lol
[07:33] <Amaranth> tRSS: basically everywhere your current sources.list says breezy you change that to say dapper instead
[07:33] <SurfnKid> tacowrapperNDIS my friends
[07:33] <thoreauputic> Oh that swarm figure is for the desktop CD by the way
[07:33] <SurfnKid> =D
[07:33] <willmc> ahhh what a lovely release of Ubuntu everyone! lets say thank you in this chat room to show our appreciation to all the hard work that has gone in to making this wonderful release :)
[07:33] <CHodapp> tacowrapperNDIS?
[07:33] <tRSS> thanks alot Amarnath! much appreicated!
[07:33] <SurfnKid> CHodapp, I had one of those this morning, it was good
[07:33] <Greyscale> I like taco's
[07:33] <MrObvious> Does 6.06 support writing to NTFS safely?
[07:33] <spikeh> good evening; Xserver is giving me an error because my graphics card is not supported
[07:33] <SurfnKid> hehe
[07:33] <lastnode> willmc, totally!
[07:33] <Amaranth> MrObvious: not without captiventfs
[07:33] <MrObvious> Or is it read only?
[07:33] <SurfnKid> MrObvious, no idea
[07:33] <r0xoR> spikeh, what kind of graphics card
[07:33] <CHodapp> I have a DWL-G510 that I use with Atheros . . . guess I'll find out if Ubuntu likes to read it
[07:34] <zeelot> auto9us: people from my country's community told me that sort hardware will encounter this kind of problem, that after upgraded from breezy to Dapper some hardware will malfunctioned
[07:34] <CHodapp> I'm used to setting up by hand anyhow
[07:34] <spikeh> ATI X850
[07:34] <MrObvious> Amaranth: Is that safe and can I apt-get it?
[07:34] <rob_> Hello there, I downloaded the linux package from the nvidia website. And i'm told to "Type "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run" to install the driver. " http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8762.html
[07:34] <spikeh> r0xoR: last time with kubuntu, it would give me prompt
[07:34] <r0xoR> MrObvious, that's a kernel issue and i doubt it
[07:34] <anto9us> zeelot, sorry to go through the obvious buy you've checked the wireless isn't disabled on your system?
[07:34] <spikeh> but this time, it doesn't
[07:34] <Amaranth> MrObvious: It's mostly safe and no, you can't apt-get it.
[07:34] <r0xoR> MrObvious, you'll probably either have to install a module or compile the kernel yourself with NTFS write support
[07:34] <funman> hi
[07:34] <MrObvious> Ok just asking :)
[07:34] <KhZillu> anyone have troubles with ndiswrapper and broadcom wifi? because I am.
[07:34] <MrObvious> I'll create a FAT partition then
[07:34] <spikeh> so I am not sure how I can configure my network adapter and download the ati xorgconf
[07:34] <r0xoR> spikeh, please answer the question... what kind of graphics card
[07:34] <KhZillu> with dapper that is
[07:34] <spikeh> ATI X850
[07:34] <SurfnKid> KhZillu, what kind of problem
[07:34] <spikeh> I have answered the question :)
[07:34] <Double_D> !upgrade
[07:34] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[07:35] <Amaranth> r0xoR: Captive uses FUSE, no kernel recompile needed. Just a download and install script.
[07:35] <Greyscale> Some one point me to a guide to using ndiswrapper on 6.06 please?
[07:35] <zeelot> anto9us: it's not disabled, lshw show it's on, i can ifupdown it and i can iwconfig it just nothing happend after configuring
[07:35] <h3sp4wn> KhZillu: Either install the correct firmware or blacklist brm43xx
[07:35] <mwe> what package provides gnome-window-decorator? apt-file can't find it :|
[07:35] <DBO> compiz-gnome
[07:35] <KhZillu> ah yes
[07:35] <reoffendr> anyone else having the installer hang while partitioning?
[07:35] <mwe> oh
[07:35] <h3sp4wn> KhZillu: You want to use the native driver if you can
[07:35] <KhZillu> blacklist bcm43xx
[07:35] <Viaken> Dapper in one line: sudo sed -i.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:35] <Greyscale> Some one point me to a guide to using ndiswrapper on 6.06 please?
[07:35] <Amaranth> mwe: please join #ubuntu-xgl for xgl/compiz problems
[07:35] <anto9us> zeelot, ok, the AP may have it's essid hidden and may not be issuing more leases, check its config
[07:35] <rob_> So my question is, where do I type this? Do I bring up a console? And how do I bring one up?
[07:36] <KhZillu> are they running native now without ndiswrapper?
[07:36] <Greyscale> Some one point me to a guide to using ndiswrapper on 6.06 please?
[07:36] <iNiku> is it just me or are the ubuntu sites totally swamped?
[07:36] <wastrel> rob_:  alt-f2 then type xterm
[07:36] <Greyscale> What are running native?
[07:36] <SurfnKid> !ndiswrapper
[07:36] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:36] <spikeh> can someone please tell me how to get terminal up after xserver crashes
[07:36] <SurfnKid> Greyscale, not sure if that'll help or if its for the 6.06 but its worth a look
[07:36] <h3sp4wn> KhZillu: Yes but you need to install the firmware (using fwcutter) see the brc43xx page on the wiki
[07:36] <Amaranth> spikeh: ctrl-alt-f1
[07:36] <zeelot> anto9us: it's kinda impossible cuz my AP's Essid is at all time broadcasting....
[07:36] <Avian00> I guess I figured in a channel full of Ubuntu users that I might be able to find out if I was the only one experiencing trouble getting Dapper updates via the apt repositories
[07:36] <iNiku> anybody have pointers to the kubuntu desktop and alternative cd torrents?
[07:37] <Greyscale> Yay!
[07:37] <JPatch> anyone dealing with isolinux Disk error 05? (it's a start...)
[07:37] <r0xoR> spikeh, oh wow sorry, i totally missed that :)
[07:37] <spikeb> iNiku, sure, give me a sec
[07:37] <Viaken> bah...
[07:37] <Viaken> Correction.
[07:37] <Viaken> Dapper in one line: sudo sed -i.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:37] <JyZky> Can someone help me with installing ubuntu?
[07:37] <mjmac> aaaugh.  stupid busybox mount doesn't handle bind mounts
[07:37] <reoffendr> nobody has any thoughts on installer hanging during partitioning? SATA, ext3
[07:37] <DBO> Viaken, "gksudo update-manager -d" does the same thing
[07:37] <r0xoR> spikeh, Amaranth i've never heard of Captive or FUSE
[07:37] <NoUse> JyZky what kind of problem are you having?
[07:37] <Bugs> !POLL - What is your favorite CHAT client ?
[07:37] <ubotu> Bugs: okay
[07:37] <anto9us> zeelot, does AP show any wireless activity?
[07:37] <r0xoR> JyZky, uhhh, please just ask us a specific question
[07:37] <NoUse> !tell Bugs about offtopic
[07:37] <spikeb> Bugs, xchat
[07:37] <JyZky> its getting a error hdxc
[07:38] <JyZky> hdc
[07:38] <Amaranth> Bugs: xchat-gnome
[07:38] <h3sp4wn> mjmac: just use chroot then mount them normally
[07:38] <JyZky> when its installing it
[07:38] <jrk29> Bugs: telnet
[07:38] <mjmac> has anyone else successfully upgraded Breezy->Dapper using root-on-LVM?
[07:38] <gnomefreak> Bugs: not in here move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:38] <Amaranth> !fuse
[07:38] <ubotu> You can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here (It still is not safe) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:38] <mjmac> h3sp4wn: i need /proc in the chroot
[07:38] <spikeh> thank you; can someone please tell me how to configure a network in terminal? (setting the IP address, default gateway, subnet mask, and DNS server)
[07:38] <JPatch> Bugs, trilly when on Win. Gaim on linux
[07:38] <GazzaK> Bugs: xchat, but I kinda like Konversation
[07:38] <spikeb> iNiku, http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[07:38] <Amaranth> ubotu knows all
[07:38] <ubotu> Amaranth: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:38] <r0xoR> JyZky, ok you'll (probably) need to go write down the exact error it's giving you and then tell us
[07:38] <NoUse> JyZky how did you download the ISO?
[07:38] <Amaranth> hehe
[07:38] <zeelot> anto9us: no activity from this wireless..it's not even connected....iwconfig shows that it's AP not-accociated
[07:38] <Bugs> gnomefreak:  Not OT...ubuntu related question - need to find a GOOD one...
[07:38] <JyZky> ubuntu site
[07:38] <JyZky> NoUse ubuntu site
[07:38] <SurfnKid> r0xoR, SMART supports heartbeat, I thought it was the NTFS microsoft system.
[07:38] <gnomefreak> Bugs: its off topic
[07:38] <JPatch> Bugs: use gaim
[07:38] <SurfnKid> I just looked that up
[07:38] <NoUse> Bugs ubuntu *support* related questions
[07:39] <[zero] > Can anyone help me, Im trying to create a partiton on my 80GB HDD which has winXP installed on.. I want the partition to be just for storage (music, pictures blabla) so how would I make it??
[07:39] <ketsugi> Okay, next question!
[07:39] <JyZky> NoUse with firefox
[07:39] <NoUse> JyZky did you verify the download?
[07:39] <dmesg> i waana be ubuntu certificate
[07:39] <h3sp4wn> mjmac:  mount -t proc none /proc
[07:39] <r0xoR> [zero] , with fdisk or cfdisk
[07:39] <SurfnKid> dmesg, hey I want one too
[07:39] <JyZky> nouse what you mean verify?
[07:39] <h3sp4wn> mjmac:  after chroot /mnt/whatever /bin/bash
[07:39] <luis_> which video driver is recommended for XGL? the ATI one, or the fglrx one?
[07:39] <h3h_timo> does anyone know how to quickly remove all this extra software that is still here after i upgraded to dapper?
[07:39] <anto9us> zeelot, try unloading and reloading the driver module
[07:39] <NoUse> !verify
[07:39] <ketsugi> I used to be able to use Audacity, but now I get an error on startup: cannot initialize host audio I/O.
[07:39] <ubotu> from memory, verify is to check the integrity of your installation media, one way is to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[07:39] <NoUse> JyZky ^^^
[07:39] <dmesg> SurfnKid :P
[07:39] <spikeh> will a network adapter auto configure itself if DHCP is turned on?
[07:39] <mjmac> ahhh...  /target/bin/mount --bind works too
[07:39] <Amaranth> [zero] : if you already have ubuntu installed use gparted
[07:39] <ketsugi> I've tried reinstalling Audacity, but no luck. Any ideas?
[07:39] <lotv> guys i need some help 1) installed ubuntu oem mode by mistake, how do i create new account with root priviledges?
[07:39] <SurfnKid> spikeh, should
[07:39] <CHodapp> yay for 352 MB/sec torrent downloading
[07:39] <JyZky> nouse what :D?
[07:39] <r0xoR> ketsugi, is your sound card working?
[07:39] <Amaranth> [zero] : you'll have to install it in synaptic
[07:39] <ketsugi> Yup
[07:39] <SurfnKid> CHodapp, you suck
[07:39] <ketsugi> Everywhere else sound is working
[07:40] <r0xoR> Chobo-Mog, mega BYTE/s ??!!!!
[07:40] <spikeh> SurfnKid: how would I configure it manually? setting the IP, default gateway, subnet, and DNS server
[07:40] <JPatch> anyone have problems with loading the live cd portion?
[07:40] <MrObvious> CHodapp: Because I'm seeding the torrent :ED
[07:40] <Amaranth> !wireless
[07:40] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[07:40] <cowbud> chodapp 352 MB/sec?
[07:40] <MrObvious> CHodapp: Because I'm seeding the torrent :D
[07:40] <SurfnKid> spikeh, is it wlan0 or eth0
[07:40] <r0xoR> CHodapp, that was for you
[07:40] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: please chang eyour tone
[07:40] <Amaranth> hrm
[07:40] <spikeh> eth0
[07:40] <JPatch> *rather how to avoid such problems
[07:40] <lotv> 2)i get kernel panic when i use k7 kernel, it sais smth about apic, i have athlon64 cpu
[07:40] <spikeh> SurfnKid eth0
[07:40] <mada> lotv: i think that capability is disabled for OEM because companies don't want employees having root
[07:40] <SurfnKid> gnomefreak, dude im joking
[07:40] <[zero] > Amaranth: how would I make it so I can read and write off it from both ubuntu and xp tho?
[07:40] <SurfnKid> gosh
[07:40] <JyZky> NoUse http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ from there with firefox
[07:40] <Amaranth> [zero] : make a fat32 partition
[07:40] <DBO> lotv, disable ACPI and try again
[07:40] <NoUse> JyZky did you read the verify link ubotu posted?
[07:40] <Amaranth> [zero] : it might be called 'vfat' in gparted
[07:40] <zeelot> anto9us: okey i try this first
[07:40] <luis_> which video driver is recommended for XGL? the ATI one, or the fglrx one?
[07:41] <DBO> luis_, fglrx
[07:41] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, youre a genious... can you tell me... my internet is working fine now... and i just upgraded to dapper.. like 5 seconds ago.. will it be messed up if i reboot?
[07:41] <spikeh> luis_ only the fglrx seems to work
[07:41] <buzzed> anything i can do about the slowness loading the window manager?
[07:41] <JyZky> half of it
[07:41] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: shouldnt
[07:41] <luis_> DBO, right, thansk!
[07:41] <JyZky> nouse half of it
[07:41] <[zero] > I made a FAT32 partition in windows xp but It says it cant be mounted on ubuntu?? Amaranth
[07:41] <SurfnKid> spikeh, are you wired or wireless
[07:41] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, is there anything i can do if it does screw up?
[07:41] <spikeh> SurfnKid: wired
[07:41] <ifxx> hey @all ... has anyone set up the sgi performer under ubuntu??
[07:41] <Amaranth> [zero] : how are you trying to mount it?
[07:41] <mjmac> woohoo
[07:41] <spikeh> SurfnKid: but DHCP is turned up
[07:41] <jayrod06> hey guys
[07:41] <SurfnKid> oh
[07:41] <JyZky> nouse i dont get so far
[07:41] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: make sure its enabled in the networking menu
[07:41] <SurfnKid> mmm let me see
[07:41] <mjmac> apparently the dapper kernel setup didn't run lilo after installing the new kernel
[07:41] <spikeh> SurfnKid it is a wireless router but my PC is connected via wire to it
[07:41] <JyZky> nouse i get to the splash screen then press install or start ubuntu
[07:42] <JyZky> nouse then it loads kernel 100%
[07:42] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: what makes you think its not gonna work?
[07:42] <mada> mjmac: that'll do it
[07:42] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, it should be
[07:42] <mjmac> that was more work than it should have been.  :/
[07:42] <[zero] > Amaranth:  when I click to open it it comes up with "Unable to mount the selected volume."
[07:42] <mada> :(
[07:42] <SurfnKid> spikeh, let me look up a command really quick
[07:42] <JPatch> my desktop will not "mount root drive"
[07:42] <JyZky> nouse then its some root files and system they go OK
[07:42] <NoUse> JyZky back up, you need to verify that the ISO you download was downloaded properly
[07:42] <Anusien> oh man, dapper is [O] fficial now, right?
[07:42] <spikeh> thank you SurfnKid
[07:42] <Amaranth> [zero] : ok, let me get a link to the wiki page for this
[07:42] <apokryphos> Anusien: yes
[07:42] <spikeh> one last question: can someone quickly tell me the command to get the fglrx driver
[07:42] <mada> JPatch: like, just flat out won't mount the root volume?
[07:42] <spikeh> the website is very slow
[07:42] <SurfnKid> gnomefreak, see im helping people out, i just meant he sucked cuz he was hauling butt =D and im not :P
[07:42] <[zero] > Amaranth: thankx :D
[07:42] <JyZky> nouse https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse?
[07:43] <NoUse> JyZky no
[07:43] <NoUse> !tell JyZky about verify
[07:43] <JPatch> mada: nada. when I try to Boot first hard drive, I get an isolinux error
[07:43] <h4ch3r> edgy elf  gnome 2.16.1?
[07:43] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: most likely
[07:43] <DBO> edgy eft
[07:43] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, it is.. should i reboot right this instant?
[07:43] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: neither one exists yet, but yeah
[07:43] <JyZky> nouse not yet i need a md5 ^^
[07:44] <MrKeuner> hi, I have inserted alternate cd and, package manager has opened and I did an mark all upgrades && apply. is this all I have to do for an breezy2dapper upgrade?
[07:44] <h4ch3r> arrghh
[07:44] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: when your ready to reboot reboot make sure everything your working on is saved
[07:44] <NoUse> JyZky there is also a boot option when you boot off the CD to check the CD integrity
[07:44] <Amaranth> [zero] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:44] <apokryphos> MrKeuner: no, you have to mark the CD as a source
[07:44] <[zero] > thankx :)
[07:44] <jaars> anyone know about how to fix so that fglrx works in dapper? it worked fine in breezy but after upgrading it stopped working...only some mesa thingy whatnot
[07:44] <h4ch3r> download edgy elf?
[07:44] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, and it should all be fine?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: should
[07:44] <JPatch> mada: it seems to not recognize my hard drive at all...
[07:44] <NoUse> JyZky that link tells you where to get md5 sums
[07:44] <MrKeuner> apokryphos/ do i also have to switch breezy in the sources.list to dapper?
[07:44] <JyZky> nouse check the cd for efect something like that
[07:45] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, aight.. i guess we will find out.. thanks
[07:45] <NoUse> JyZky yes
[07:45] <mada> JPatch: is it a new install or upgraded?
[07:45] <h4ch3r> ubuntu edgy elf download?
[07:45] <JPatch> new
[07:45] <apokryphos> MrKeuner: you should, yes.
[07:45] <spikeh> what is the command to configure X server?
[07:45] <spikeh> xorgconf?
[07:45] <apokryphos> MrKeuner: and also make sure that you have ubuntu-desktop installed before changing any sources
[07:45] <DBO> spikeb, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:45] <DShepherd> does anyone have problems starting Muine?
[07:45] <Fee^> jaars: mine stopped working too, i fixed it last night by basically repeating the steps for the install on the Guide pages
[07:45] <DBO> spikeh, ^^^
[07:45] <spikeb> heh
[07:45] <spikeh> ty DBO
[07:45] <DBO> sorry spikeb you have a super clone
[07:45] <jayrod06> if anyone puts it on a macbook let me know hoqw it goes
[07:45] <andrejkw> Hey guys.
[07:46] <KhZillu> blacklisting the broadcom drivers worked. ndiswrapper works again
[07:46] <mada> JPatch: did you download the desktop iso with the live cd?
[07:46] <h4ch3r> I'm take download ubuntu edgy elf?
[07:46] <SurfnKid> spikeh, try "ifconfig eth0 down" then "ifconfig eth0 up"  to see if itll wake up
[07:46] <spikeb> DbD-, i saw that earlier, it's freaking me out
[07:46] <KhZillu> now installing the fwcutter...
[07:46] <jaars> Fee^, which guide pages? in the dapper forum general section?
[07:46] <r0xoR> jayrod06, i'm gonna put it on an iBook :)
[07:46] <spikeh> DBO, is that the command to run after I install the fglrx drivers
[07:46] <mada> JPatch: that is a live cd*
[07:46] <andrejkw> After Installing Xgl, Remote Desktop stopped working. How can I fix this?
[07:46] <r0xoR> jayrod06, but not a macbook :(
[07:46] <tristanmike> h4ch3r, edgy eft, not elf
[07:46] <Fee^> jaars: the page where the 'quick start guide' and such are..
[07:46] <jayrod06> roxor: :)
[07:46] <h4ch3r> sorry
[07:46] <JPatch> mada: yes I did. I tried it on a second computer and the disk works fine
[07:46] <spikeh> ty SurfnKid
[07:46] <Fee^> there's a section there on installing hardware 3d drivers
[07:46] <DBO> spikeh, the fglrx drivers will configure the xorg.conf on their own
[07:46] <GianLuigiBuffon> how can I re-install flash for working on Dapper???'
[07:46] <andrejkw> After Installing Xgl, Remote Desktop stopped working. How can I fix this?
[07:46] <spikeh> DBO last time I had to do it manually
[07:46] <tristanmike> h4ch3r, don't need to be sorry for being mistaken, I was just letting you know, that's all
[07:46] <SurfnKid> spikeh, not sure if this command would work too "ifconfig eth0 -dynamic"  as in dynamic ip but its worth a try
[07:46] <DBO> spikeh, then yes, that is the command
[07:46] <h4ch3r> tristanmike: download edgy efl?
[07:47] <iNiku> spikeh: ah, got through to the torrents finally :)
[07:47] <JyZky> nouse gimme som md5 checking tool
[07:47] <Ademan> what repository are the w32 codecs in?
[07:47] <mada> JPatch: boot with the ubuntu live and try to mount the hdd and see what happens
[07:47] <Amaranth> andrejkw: By turning off Xgl.
[07:47] <apokryphos> Ademan: /msg ubotu seveas
[07:47] <spikeh> SurfnKid last time, there was a command to edit a file where I put in the DNS servers
[07:47] <tristanmike> h4ch3r, download Dapper for newest release
[07:47] <NoUse> JyZky its already installed on ubuntu
[07:47] <andrejkw> Amarath: is there any way to get VNC Server working with Xgl?
[07:47] <mada> JPatch: i'm just curious if there might be a controller issue or if something happened when you installed
[07:47] <JPatch> mada: how exactly do I go about mounting the hard drive?
[07:47] <Amaranth> andrejkw: not that i know of
[07:47] <DBO> andrejkw, check compiz.net but I doubt it
[07:47] <h4ch3r> I'll edgy efl!!
[07:47] <NoUse> JyZky for windows: http://www.md5summer.org/
[07:47] <h4ch3r>
[07:47] <hodak> join #ubuntu.pl
[07:47] <JPatch> mada: it hasn't installed yet
[07:47] <hodak> ups sory
[07:47] <SurfnKid> spikeh right, that one i dont know where it is
[07:47] <SurfnKid> !eth0
[07:47] <JyZky> nouse thats right windows :()
[07:47] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[07:48] <mada> JPatch: i thought you just said it was a new install
[07:48] <tristanmike> h4ch3r, eft e f t
[07:48] <pally> anyone use opera in dapper?
[07:48] <mada> JPatch: rgr, nvm ...
[07:48] <DBO> tristanmike, thank you =)
[07:48] <h4ch3r> tristanmike:
[07:48] <JPatch> mada: sorry bout the confusion
[07:48] <h4ch3r> edgy
[07:48] <mada> JPatch: ok, so you have the livecd booted?
[07:48] <h4ch3r> download?
[07:48] <mada> JPatch: no worries :)
[07:48] <DBO> h4ch3r, it hasnt even been made yet
[07:48] <spikeh> right, time to see if it works
[07:48] <tristanmike> h4ch3r, no, no download yet
[07:48] <Ademan> apokryphos: thanks, by the way, ubotu said "semi popular" is there an alternative? (when it comes to playing w32 files like wmv and wma?)
[07:48] <h4ch3r> ohh man
[07:49] <h4ch3r>
[07:49] <apokryphos> Ademan: it's the most popular 3rd-party repository used here
[07:49] <SurfnKid> spikeh, maybe the configuration editor will point you to that, Im looking to see if the ethernet settings are there
[07:49] <tuxtheslacker> !ati
[07:49] <ubotu> ati is probably http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:49] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: edgy eft won't be out until october. also, gnome 2.16.x doesn't even exist yet
[07:49] <apokryphos> Ademan: and nope, there's no alternative for that.
[07:49] <JPatch> mada: it is not booted right now... it's running from THIS computer... only connection to the internet I have right now
[07:49] <r0xoR> Ademan, easyubuntu?
[07:49] <h4ch3r> !edgy elf
[07:49] <mada> r0xoR: i installed Dapper on my iBook G4, works like a dream and with the tutorial on the forums, my airport extreme works too :)
[07:49] <ubotu> h4ch3r: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:49] <SurfnKid> brb gonna eat
[07:49] <PHiSQuaRE> I'm moving from FC5 to ubuntu, what's a good resource for getting me started with the basics of a debian distro?  suggestions?
[07:49] <spikeb> edgy EFT
[07:49] <spikeb> heh
[07:49] <JyZky> nouse The File is empty???
[07:49] <h4ch3r> ehehe
[07:49] <r0xoR> mada, nice
[07:49] <JPatch> mada: rather, I'm installing TO this computer
[07:49] <h4ch3r> !edgy eft
[07:49] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h4ch3r
[07:49] <JyZky> nouse file to check is empty
[07:49] <apokryphos> PHiSQuaRE: the wiki is pretty good, but unfortunately it's down at the moment because of the high traffic it's received
[07:49] <DBO> !fishing
[07:49] <ubotu> it has been said that fishing is randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)
[07:49] <Fee^> PHiSQuaRE: www.ubuntu.com :)
[07:49] <r0xoR> mada, can you give me the link to the forums?
[07:50] <Ademan> r0xoR: huh?
[07:50] <ketsugi> r0xoR: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185955
[07:50] <Ademan> oh wait thats that little program huh?
[07:50] <zaphod_> PHiSQuaRE: the official or unoffical ubuntu guides
[07:50] <mada> r0xoR: i noticed your mention of an iBook and had to say something
[07:50] <NoUse> JyZky are you sure you are checking the right file?
[07:50] <mada> r0xoR: yeah, just a minute
[07:50] <h4ch3r> !download edgy eft
[07:50] <ubotu> h4ch3r: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:50] <r0xoR> mada, yeah, much thanks...
[07:50] <JyZky> nouse Yes
[07:50] <DBO> h4ch3r, stop fishing at the bot
[07:50] <mada> JPatch: uhmm... lemme think
[07:50] <hazart> When do i need dist-upgrade? I have a dapper alpha release that i would like to bring to dapper final.
[07:50] <r0xoR> mada, i joined ppc and it was just you and airo and i was kinda bummed :)
[07:50] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: stop playing with the bot
[07:50] <apokryphos> h4ch3r: please investigate in /msg
[07:50] <Amaranth> PHiSQuaRE: If you have specific questions we might be able to answer them.
[07:50] <h4ch3r> !h4ch3r
[07:50] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h4ch3r
[07:50] <r0xoR> mada, so it'll be nice to know that someone else on here has done it already :)
[07:50] <JyZky> nouse found
[07:50] <h4ch3r> ehehe
[07:50] <mcphail> PHiSQuaRE: www.debian-administration.org is useful for server stuff
[07:50] <JyZky> nouse my md5 is
[07:50] <h4ch3r> :)
[07:51] <GianLuigiBuffon> how can I re-install flash for working on Dapper???'
[07:51] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: you want to use the bot type /msg ubotu <factoid>
[07:51] <DBO> !flash
[07:51] <Viaken> !edgy
[07:51] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:51] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html
[07:51] <NoUse> JyZky what?
[07:51] <apokryphos> h4ch3r: please stop, it spams the channel and is distratcing :)
[07:51] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: Please stop playing with the bot in the channel.
[07:51] <h4ch3r> ok guys
[07:51] <h4ch3r> sorry
[07:51] <Viaken> Sorry >.>
[07:51] <JyZky> nouse this e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e
[07:51] <r0xoR> h4ch3r, you *can* msg the bot ya know :)
[07:51] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:52] <hazart> Will i need dist-upgrade to go from dapper alpha to dapper LTS release?
[07:52] <DBO> hazart, no
[07:52] <iNiku> if you need to play with ubotu, you can /msg it
[07:52] <h4ch3r> ahhh
[07:52] <PHiSQuaRE> Amaranth, I'm just mainly looking for package management help and what not
[07:52] <hazart> DBO: Ok, thanks. :)
[07:52] <mada> r0xoR: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142727 (the svn repository mentioned in the tutorial has been down for a couple months, so on page 5 of the topic someone posted the file you need and it works (its the one i used))
[07:52] <iNiku> oh :)
[07:52] <h4ch3r> i see guys
[07:52] <gnomefreak> hazart: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:52] <Viaken> hazart: There's no harm in doing so anyway.
[07:52] <r0xoR> mada, ok grea thanks a lot :) ... cheers
[07:52] <gnomefreak> or upgrade
[07:52] <NoUse> JyZky compare that to the md5sum file from the mirror
[07:52] <Amaranth> PHiSQuaRE: synaptic usually handles that
[07:52] <mada> r0xoR: very welcome ... enjoy
[07:52] <Jimmey__> "Since Ubuntu doesn't run any daemons that listen to the outside world by default (the postfix install only listens on localhost) there's no need for a default firewall.". Is there one anyway?
[07:52] <JyZky> nouse it was right
[07:52] <thug> did anyone installed dapper yet ?
[07:52] <nnacht> Hello, how can I get totem to play divx-movies?
[07:52] <h4ch3r> upgrade gnome 2.14.1 in dapper for gnome 2.15.2?
[07:52] <hazart> gnomefreak: Viaken: Okay, i'll go with dist-upgrade then.
[07:53] <thug> the official release ...
[07:53] <mada> r0xoR: i will warn that the driver is still in beta, so your wifi range isn't incredible but it does work
[07:53] <tristanmike> !tell nnacht about w32codecs
[07:53] <gnomefreak> hazart: just leave the sources.list file alone and you will be fine
[07:53] <thug> ?
[07:53] <r0xoR> mada, hmmm... by not incredible... will it reach the next room at least?
[07:53] <mada> thug: neg, RC a few days ago
[07:53] <gnomefreak> thug: yes they have
[07:53] <tristanmike> nnacht, you also probably need to install the totem-xine backend as well
[07:53] <pally> !tell pally about w32codecs
[07:53] <nnacht> tristanmike: I have already installed w32codes
[07:53] <AngryElf1> guys, I'm trying to setup ivtv which uses the hotplug system......none of the directories where the firmware is suppose ot be exists.......also, /etc/firmware.agent doesn't exist -- is there a packaeg i'm missing?
[07:53] <thug> gnomefreak and how is it like ? a lot faster then the previous one ?
[07:53] <hazart> gnomefreak: yes, it's almost too easy :D - gotta' love it
[07:53] <tristanmike> pally, use "/msg ubotu <factiod>" for privite encounters
[07:53] <nnacht> totem-xine is also installed
[07:54] <h4ch3r> upgrade gnome 2.14.1 for gnome 2.15.2 in the dapper draker?
[07:54] <JyZky> nouse HEY WTF
[07:54] <samu> I still can't update by pressing check
[07:54] <gnomefreak> thug: its the same as dapper has been
[07:54] <thug> gnomefreak or most same just packages upgraded ?
[07:54] <JPatch> mada: seems you have your hands full... any ideas on your end at least?
 ok
[07:54] <nnacht> libdivx4linux is also installed
[07:54] <Adullix> slm arkada015flar
[07:54] <JyZky> nouse some mirrors got diffrent md5 than others
[07:54] <h4ch3r> helooo
[07:54] <JyZky> nouse whats the right one
[07:54] <thug> gnomefreak yeah very funny
[07:54] <Amaranth> nnacht: What errors are you getting?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> thug: dapper stable is the same as dapper rc
[07:54] <nanotube> nnacht, try installing mplayer to play things. totem ain't that great at playing various codecs :)
[07:54] <mada> r0xoR: oh yeah, i am just talking about on the outter limits of the wifi range it won't reach (i lost connection on campus where OS X would give me a very slow one) ... not too big of a deal and i think in the 2.6.17 kernel that issue is being fixed
[07:54] <hazart> How do i configure automatic updates on a server not running the update-daemon?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> thug: im not kiddin
[07:54] <Adullix> trke bilen kimse yokmu
[07:54] <Amaranth> nnacht: Can gxine play the files?
[07:54] <hazart> automatic security updates that is.
[07:54] <tristanmike> nnacht, what nanotube said, also you might want to try VLC as well
[07:55] <thug> gnomefreak is it better then the previous one ? breezy ?
[07:55] <h4ch3r> upgrade gnome 2.14.2 for gnome 2.15.2 in dapper???
[07:55] <r0xoR> mada, huh... yeah i always upgrade straight my own custom compiled kernel 90% of the time
[07:55] <h4ch3r> somewhere?
[07:55] <neighborlee> does anyone know approximately when ubuntu will have fulll LSB compliance ? ;-))
[07:55] <nnacht> vlc plays well, but I need totem to load subtiles
[07:55] <h4ch3r> some
[07:55] <h4ch3r> ?
[07:55] <gnomefreak> thug: i think it is but thats for you to decide
[07:55] <Adullix> slm arkada015flar
[07:55] <r0xoR> mada, i don't like being stuck with the distro kernel :)
[07:55] <mada> JPatch: i did a little looking into isolinux errors and most of them come from cd-rom drives and BIOS having issues with linux .... not so much with hdds, but i am still trying to find something
[07:55] <nanotube> nnacht, hmm, mplayer does well with subtitles, generally
[07:55] <Adullix> trke konu015fan kimse yokmu
[07:55] <mcphail> hazart: run a cron job
[07:55] <JyZky> Nouse some mirrors got diffrent md5 than others? what is right
[07:55] <h4ch3r> !upgrade gnome 2.14.2 for gnome 2.15.2 in dapper?
[07:55] <ubotu> h4ch3r: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:55] <r0xoR> Adullix, english please
[07:55] <JoeyB2> !lamp
[07:56] <thug> gnomefreak ok i will freak out too with it on gnome desktop ... i might gonna be a gnomefreak like you after :)
[07:56] <lucasvo> http://pastebin.com/751756
[07:56] <JPatch> mada: so it would be a good idea to swap a new cd-drive into this thign?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: gnome 2.14 is in dapper
[07:56] <PHiSQuaRE> The ubuntu startup screen is way too cool
[07:56] <h4ch3r> gnomefreak:
[07:56] <buzzed> so what's the verdict on Dapper? Yeah or Neah
[07:56] <hazart> mcphail: with what command, how can i specyfy that i only want updates from a specific repos? apt-get update && apt-get upgrade dapper-security or something like that?
[07:56] <JoeyB2> !apache
[07:56] <ubotu> apache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:56] <JyZky> NoUse?
[07:56] <mada> r0xoR: yeah, the 2.6.17-RC2 has built in Airport Extreme support and it is getting better as the days go on, but with the standard dapper kernel, the thing on the forum makes it work like a godsend
[07:56] <h4ch3r> i upgrade 2.14 for 2.15 in dapper
[07:56] <h4ch3r> ?
[07:56] <lucasvo> I have problem with a tetex package, I can't download it (http://pastebin.com/751756)
[07:56] <JyZky> NoUse some got diffrent md5 than others
[07:56] <KhZillu> upgradding to dapper from breezy uninstalled open office
[07:56] <mada> JPatch: if you have it at your disposal, it might be worth a shot
[07:56] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: no
[07:56] <KhZillu> weird
[07:56] <hazart> h4ch3r: you can't 2.15 will first come in edgy.
[07:56] <r0xoR> mada, ok well then i'll probably just go the easy route to start off
[07:57] <h4ch3r> hazart: no
[07:57] <h4ch3r> is 2.16
[07:57] <JyZky> ffs
[07:57] <h4ch3r> edgy
[07:57] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: why would you want to use 2.15? there isn't really anything new in it yet and it's the development version
[07:57] <JyZky> ubotu ur bot?
[07:57] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: thats what he said
[07:57] <mada> r0xoR: i agree, i don't know how stable 2.6.17 is at the moment
[07:57] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JyZky
[07:57] <h4ch3r> and?
[07:57] <DavidJaq> I'm having a horrible time getting Ubuntu to work on my computer... no matter what I tried I couldn't get my old computer to boot from CD, so I had to take out the hard drive and put it into my other computer, install Dapper Drake, and then put the drive back in my old computer
[07:57] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: while edgy is in development it will have 2.15
[07:57] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: thats if it is build with the dapper libs
[07:57] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: because 2.15 becomes 2.16 when it's stable
[07:57] <mcphail> hazart: the finer point of apt-get are lost on me. You could script a hack to replace /etc/apt/sources.list temporarily with the repos you want to use
[07:57] <h4ch3r> Amaranth:
[07:57] <jlmr> grub, and the find /boot/grub/stage1 tells me it is installed in hd0,4 but i think it is in MBR, or am not getting anything?
[07:57] <PHiSQuaRE> jesus, the ubuntu installer is FAR better than the FC5 installer, I have to say I'm quite impressed so far....
[07:57] <hazart> h4ch3r: yes, but you can select the edgy sources before it's stable, and get it that way.
[07:57] <JPatch> mada: alright, I'm gonna try that.  thanks for your help sir/madam!
[07:57] <h4ch3r> i use
[07:57] <JPatch> :)
[07:57] <h4ch3r> dapper
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can tellme a stopper program?
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> stopwatch
[07:58] <DavidJaq> but now ubuntu won't load up, it says 'mounting root' or something like that, then 'waiting on root' or something similar, then hangs and eventually drops to busybox
[07:58] <JyZky> ffs
[07:58] <paulproteus> MetaMorfoziS, I usually use kteatimer.
[07:58] <paulproteus> kteatime, rather.
[07:58] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: you cant not get gnome 2.15 on dapper
[07:58] <KhZillu> anyone know what this means? #1 SMP PREEMPT
[07:58] <mcphail> hazart: _but_ aren't all the updates on the stable branch from security???
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> thx
[07:58] <sally_> is there a version of automatix that works with dapper?
[07:58] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: ok then, wait a couple weeks and if you still want 2.15 switch to the edgy development versions
[07:58] <[zero] > Amaranth: Im a bit confused by the wiki link :/
[07:58] <Amaranth> sally_: probably not, but easyubuntu works with dapper
[07:58] <mada> JPatch: it's a sir ... name's Adam ... just reversed it ;) and you are very welcome, anytime :)
[07:58] <KhZillu> Linux cow 2.6.15-23-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT
[07:58] <bbrazil> KhZillu: first build from that tree, multi-processor, preemptive scheduling
[07:58] <jeroen__> hi
[07:58] <gnomefreak> sally_: dont use it
[07:58] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[07:58] <ubotu> [automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:58] <h4ch3r> gnomefreak: ?
[07:58] <sally_> gnomefreak: why not
[07:58] <hazart> mcphail: I suppose, i guess i will just disable backports, multiverse and universe then.
[07:58] <h4ch3r> yes man
[07:58] <r0xoR> mada, how fast is your ibook?
[07:58] <KhZillu> even though it's not a SMP kernel?
[07:58] <h4ch3r> help me
[07:59] <gnomefreak> sally_: read above
[07:59] <r0xoR> mada, and how fast does ubuntu run on it?
[07:59] <mada> r0xoR: 1GHz G4
[07:59] <JyZky> nice help......
[07:59] <jeroen__> does anyone know what to do with this error (happens when i try to run glxinfo or compiz with Xgl (nvidia drivers)):
[07:59] <scifi> haha over a 1000 in here, anyone wud think something big happening today :D
[07:59] <paulproteus> mada, mine too! (-:
[07:59] <mada> r0xoR: faster than OS X
[07:59] <JPatch> mada: !niaga sknaht
[07:59] <boxemall> hi folks
[07:59] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: with what? gnome 2.15 will not run on dapper
[07:59] <bbrazil> KhZillu: that is an SMP kernel
[07:59] <boxemall> got a strange problem
[07:59] <r0xoR> mada, sweet, i figured
[07:59] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: If you want help on getting gnome 2.15 running on dapper you don't know enough to be using 2.15
[07:59] <h4ch3r> why
[07:59] <jeroen__> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[07:59] <jeroen__>   Major opcode of failed request:  148 (GLX)
[07:59] <jeroen__>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
[07:59] <jeroen__>   Serial number of failed request:  20
[07:59] <jeroen__>   Current serial number in output stream:  22
[07:59] <mada> paulproteus: w00t!
[07:59] <mcphail> hazart: you could try braving ##debian....
[07:59] <r0xoR> mada, lol... honestly OS X really didn't do it for me...
[07:59] <KhZillu> running just the regular 2.6.15-23-686
[07:59] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: it wasnt build for dapper
[07:59] <scifi> so here goes guys, what the sudo apt-get command to install dapper ?
[07:59] <gnomefreak> jeroen__: dont paste please
[07:59] <saif> the sound i am getting from skype is all fuzzy and not understandable, did any1 here get it to work?
[07:59] <hazart> mcphail: yes, thank's for your help.
[07:59] <boxemall> i already searched the whole weg including the ubuntu forums and every wii page i could find
[07:59] <mada> r0xoR: yeah, Ubuntu runs noticably faster on it
[07:59] <r0xoR> mada, i like linux cuz of the variety of window managers... i can always set something up the way i like it perfectly
[08:00] <h4ch3r> ?
[08:00] <h4ch3r> why?
[08:00] <h4ch3r> why?
[08:00] <DavidJaq> anyone know what I can do to get my computer to run Dapper Drake if it won't boot from CD and crashes me to BusyBox when trying to boot Dapper that I installed by transplanting my hard drive in a better computer temporarily?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: i think im starting to look at h4ch3r as a troll
[08:00] <r0xoR> mada, sweet
[08:00] <boxemall> i got no sound at all
[08:00] <KhZillu> even the plain 686 has smp?
[08:00] <r0xoR> mada, well that's good news then :)
[08:00] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: me too
[08:00] <boxemall> finally i manged it to get sound under ubuntu
[08:00] <JyZky> amaranth
[08:00] <gnomefreak> you got it?
[08:00] <r0xoR> heheheh
[08:00] <madmike> dapper is release, the # is boiling :D
[08:00] <gnomefreak> ok
[08:00] <mada> r0xoR: agreed, i also like linux because i am a computer science major and its so nice for developing software on
[08:00] <boxemall> but now it is like a looped sound
[08:00] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: already handled :)
[08:00] <[zero] > what does this mean?
[08:00] <[zero] > sudo bash diskmounter
[08:00] <jlmr> can anyone help mewith a GRUB problem?
[08:00] <boxemall> only right channel
[08:00] <[zero] > woops
[08:00] <boxemall> nothing on the left
[08:00] <r0xoR> bye bye leet clutter
[08:00] <dxdemetriou> Is it better to make an upgrade from Breezy to Dapper from CD or with the Update Manager?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> i saw ;)
[08:00] <gnomefreak> i got lag
[08:00] <JyZky> Amaranth what is the right md5 for the ubuntu x86 desktop? cause some mirrors got other md5s than others
[08:00] <boxemall> this starts right away at login screen
[08:00] <paulproteus> dxdemetriou, Update Manager.
[08:00] <scifi> is it sudo apt-get update build ?
[08:00] <JyZky> gnomefreak what is the right md5 for the ubuntu x86 desktop? cause some mirrors got other md5s than others
[08:01] <DavidJaq> is there any way to load from the CD if it's in the drive and I'm crashed to BusyBox in the process of loading an aparently damaged install of Dapper?
[08:01] <boxemall> i did  not change anything hardware related
[08:01] <bbrazil> JyZky: some might have the release candidate rather than the release
[08:01] <madmike> jlmr, don't ask to ask... just ask ;)
[08:01] <midna> when i boot up the new install cd the screen goes black after the brown ubuntu startup sequence, the sound plays but no video
[08:01] <mada> i'm out! ... lunch time
[08:01] <jlmr> grub, and the find /boot/grub/stage1 tells me it is installed in hd0,4 but i think it is in MBR, or am not getting anything?
[08:01] <Amaranth> DavidJaq: i think it's mounted in the /mnt dir
[08:01] <[zero] > Amaranth: When I do the wget it times out :/
[08:01] <gnomefreak> JyZky: off hand i dont know look where you downloaded it from
[08:01] <fatbrain> How do I set the root pw in ubuntu?
[08:01] <boxemall> what i don't understand is that i just reinstalled. since then i have this problem
[08:01] <NoUse> JyZky http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/MD5SUMS
[08:01] <paulproteus> DavidJaq, Try using the memory test program that's on the CD.
[08:01] <JyZky> nouse its right with sweden
[08:01] <nekromaan> hello, is there  a good xgl tutorial for dapper drake 6.06 lts and nvidia cards?
[08:01] <midna> to set root do "sudo passwd"
[08:01] <Amaranth> [zero] : you'll have to do it manually, that wiki page tells you how
[08:01] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[08:01] <nanotube> !tell fatbrain about rootsudo
[08:01] <scifi> is it sudo apt-get update build  to update to dapper ?
[08:01] <DavidJaq> Paul, what'll that do for me?
[08:01] <JyZky> nouse its same md5
[08:01] <[zero] > alright thankx again
[08:02] <paulproteus> DavidJaq, It'll tell you if your computer's RAM is broken.
[08:02] <JyZky> nouse the e2blalablb
[08:02] <midna> sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:02] <madmike> jlmr, does it boot with the current configuration?
[08:02] <paulproteus> Broken RAM can lead to all sorts of weird problems.
[08:02] <boxemall> i got an ice1712 (dmx6fire) soundcard which worked flawless before
[08:02] <midna> when i boot up the new install cd the screen goes black after the brown ubuntu startup sequence, the sound plays but no video
[08:02] <midna> any ideas?
[08:02] <vermoos> Hi there, can anyone help sort this problem: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:02] <fatbrain> thanks
[08:02] <h3sp4wn> boxemall: What is the problem ?
[08:02] <Sweet_kate> how do i list my processes??
[08:02] <jlmr> madmike, yes, but i want it to boot with ntldr, the windows bootloader
[08:02] <boxemall> i already tryed to install dapper or any other linux ditro
[08:02] <r0xoR> Sweet_kate, ps ax
[08:02] <paulproteus> Sweet_kate, ps ax
[08:02] <boxemall> same problem
[08:02] <paulproteus> Sweet_kate, Try using the GNOME process lister.
[08:02] <r0xoR> Sweet_kate, or gtop
[08:02] <h3sp4wn> boxemall: What problem ?
[08:02] <deus_> is dapper released?
[08:02] <midna> vermoos: what is the problem?
[08:02] <boxemall> could anyone help me out
[08:02] <nanotube> deus_, yes
[08:02] <DavidJaq> I am actually using the computer right now. Using windows XP on the first partition... so if the RAM was bad, wouldn't windows be having problems as well?
[08:02] <tristanmike> deus_, yes
[08:02] <midna> boxemall: same problem with the black screen?
[08:03] <vermoos> midna: i get 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded, and i want to upgrade breezy -> dapper
[08:03] <madmike> jlmr, hmm i've got no experience with the ntldr...
[08:03] <deus_> yay
[08:03] <deus_> ...
[08:03] <h3sp4wn> ...
[08:03] <AnAnt> I have a problem with Ubuntu Dapper, a friend of mine tried his MMC and it worked, so I decided to buy one, I found an MMC+, the buyer said they are the same, so I bought one, and I discovered that it doesn't work
[08:03] <Ensiferum> hi, someone know how to get the framebuffer working. i've added an alias for atyfb in /etc/modules.conf and then listed the alias in /etc/modules so the module gets loaded. also added a line for kernel parameters in grub.lst but all i still get is the default console
[08:03] <r0xoR> boxemall, which card may i ask?
[08:03] <AnAnt> anyone knows a reason for this?
[08:03] <deus_> TO THE APT-MOBILE!!!!
[08:03] <boxemall> what is it that makes my sound not work?
[08:03] <r0xoR> boxemall, i've got an Envy24HT chipset myself
[08:03] <midna> vermoos: that was dist-upgrade right?
[08:03] <r0xoR> boxemall, what card?
[08:03] <Andy101> help, I tried to upgrade to dapper and now X won't start. Fails to load modules GLCore and nvidia (I had to switch to Windows, I haven't got commandline IRC)
[08:03] <boxemall> i have a terratec DMX6Fire (ICE1712 soundchip) same chipset as envy cards have
[08:03] <madmike> jlmr, so grub says stage is on hd0,4 ?
[08:03] <vermoos> midna: yup. wrong command?
[08:03] <Hoxzer> where does apt-get save its .deb?
[08:04] <Hoxzer> s
[08:04] <jlmr> madmike, perhaps you can tell me this, if i dd the first 446 bytes of MBR, the grub stage1 part, will it be enough to direct it to grub stage 2 on my ubuntu root partitiion?
[08:04] <madmike> stage1 even
[08:04] <r0xoR> Andy101, you will have to re-download or re-build your nvidia modules
[08:04] <nanotube> Hoxzer, /var/apt/cache
[08:04] <NoUse> JyZky ok, so verify that the CD has been burned properly by running that option from the boot cd
[08:04] <paulproteus> Hoxzer, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:04] <jlmr> madmike, yep
[08:04] <sally_> does anyone else have a laptop that gets less battery time in linux than windows?  what could be the problem?
[08:04] <r0xoR> Andy101, how did you get your nvidia modules before?
[08:04] <h3sp4wn> boxemail: Whats wrong with it (I use ice1712 (M-audio Delta 44))
[08:04] <midna> vermoos: no, that should work, i just did that on my server in my basement... ummm check your sources.list
[08:04] <runes> anyone know of a good PIM for calendar and appointment scheduling...I tried  Evolution but the smtp cannot connect to my ssl at sympatico
[08:04] <midna> vermoos: make sure they say dapper instead of breezy now
[08:04] <paulproteus> runes, You could try korganizer.
[08:04] <nanotube> sally_, could be not as efficient in throttling down cpu, or spinning down the disks...
[08:04] <JyZky> nouse ok ill try
[08:04] <boxemall> i don#t get sound working
[08:04] <r0xoR> boxemall, erm... actually i don't beleive it's the ICE chip... i beleive it's the Envy chip and the ice driver... but anyway
[08:04] <r0xoR> boxemall, i had to get my driver from opensound.com
[08:04] <boxemall> since i reinstalled ubuntu my sound does not work at all
[08:04] <scifi> midna: i just did the same and got same response ^^
[08:04] <runes> paulproteus will that work on Gnome desktop?
[08:04] <Avian00> anybody else having problems with dapper update repositories?
[08:04] <vermoos> midna: i've got universe and multiverse uncommented in my sources.list
[08:04] <nnacht> Hello again: about the totem for the divx-movies: mplayer and vlc plays the divx-files well. only totem does not. I had no problem in breezy
[08:05] <paulproteus> runes, Yes.
[08:05] <paulproteus> It'll look a bit funny, though.
[08:05] <r0xoR> boxemall, i have an m-audio card... and it happens to be the ONLY card out of all of theirs that doesn't have a working driver in the default kernel
[08:05] <AnAnt> I have a problem with Ubuntu Dapper, a friend of mine tried his MMC and it worked, so I decided to buy one, I found an MMC+, the buyer said they are the same, so I bought one, and I discovered that it doesn't work. Anyone has info on this ?
[08:05] <runes> woohoo thanx going to install it and try
[08:05] <paulproteus> runes, I'd really think Evolution should be able to do SSL'd SMTP, anyway.
[08:05] <boxemall> hmm
[08:05] <boxemall> so what could i do about that
[08:05] <r0xoR> boxemall, but 4front technologies has working drivers... they're not OSS but they're free
[08:05] <Andy101> r0xoR, followed instructions in Ubuntu docs about accelerating graphics, can't open yelp wthout X though
[08:05] <JyZky> nouse working well
[08:05] <madmike> jlmr, sorry don't know about MBR and stage1 grub (and stage1.5 for that matter)
[08:05] <S> shes here
[08:05] <boxemall> this problem makes my system inconsistent
[08:05] <DavidJaq> I could get a fresh install of ubuntu on this computer if I could boot from the cd from within the busybox console Dapper drops me into when it fails to boot, if someone could help me figure out how to do that
[08:05] <midna> scifi & vermoos: its beyond me, sorry, i'm pretty new at the whole linux thing, try the forums?
[08:05] <S> bohohohha ha ha ha
[08:05] <r0xoR> boxemall, go to http://www.opensound.com/
[08:05] <S> :D
[08:05] <madmike> jlmr, what is the reason to want to use ntld?
[08:05] <iNiku> grr, hilight isn't working right on my irssi
[08:05] <boxemall> it seems that it is totally unstable
[08:05] <S> congrats to every one:D
[08:05] <r0xoR> boxemall, download the driver for your card
[08:05] <madmike> ntldr even
[08:05] <r0xoR> boxemall, read the instructions
[08:06] <hazart> Is there some mean of ensuring that ALL modules installed with module-helper gets re-compiled if a kernel update gets released?
[08:06] <r0xoR> Andy101, try reconfiguring x
[08:06] <AngryElf1> guys, I'm trying to setup ivtv which uses the hotplug system......none of the directories where the firmware is suppose ot be exists.......also, /etc/firmware.agent doesn't exist -- is there a packaeg i'm missing?
[08:06] <midna> when i boot up the new install cd the screen goes black after the brown ubuntu startup sequence, the sound plays but no video
[08:06] <Overand> Is there a list of changes between Dapper RC and Dapper release?
[08:06] <r0xoR> Andy101, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:06] <midna> any ideas?
[08:06] <JyZky> nouse i got the browser open no errors
[08:06] <kalypso> bonjour a tous
[08:06] <JyZky> nouse disctree
[08:06] <dxdemetriou> If I have error like "E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3", or unconfigured what can I do?
[08:06] <Amaranth> angryElf: firmware goes in /lib/firmware
[08:06] <jlmr> madmike, ubuntu is pure experimental for me, windows remains my primary OS, i like to keep windows in front of everything else, i need for study/work etc..
[08:06] <madmike> jlmr, (well don't know enough to give certain advice when it comes to dd anyway ;)
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> boxemail: run alsa mixer are you using spdif ?
[08:06] <saj> whats the process to ked KDE on??
[08:06] <boxemall> ok thanks for this first hint
[08:06] <boxemall> i'll give it a try
[08:06] <paulproteus> kalypso, Salut!  On parle anglais ici; les francophones vont a #ubuntu-fr, generalement.
[08:06] <NoUse> JyZky the program that ran from the boot CD ran with no problem?
[08:07] <KhZillu> ooh new ubuntu wallpaper is purdy
[08:07] <Amaranth> Overand: probably close to no changes
[08:07] <h3sp4wn> boxemail: alsamixer sorry
[08:07] <r0xoR> jlmr, you'll probably get over that one of these days :P
[08:07] <paulproteus> kalypso, But if you'll speak English you'll find help here.
[08:07] <AngryElf1> Amaranth, /lib/firmware or /lib/firmware/`uname -r` ?
[08:07] <sublime> #join ubuntu-es
[08:07] <madmike> jlmr, if i'd be you i'd just copy the MBR to a floppy or another save place... liek this you can allway copy it back, when something goes wrong
[08:07] <jlmr> madmike, np thnx anyway, i will ask again, perhaps someone else knows :D
[08:07] <boxemall> currently i am not able to start firefox or any other app
[08:07] <scifi> vermoos: please let me know if u find out the solution
[08:07] <Ajeeb71> does ubunto installer have console-less modes? text install via SSH or Telnet? and also does it have hands free install, kickstart/jumpstart/ whatever others call it? any howtos ?
[08:07] <iNiku> !nvidia
[08:07] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:07] <Andy101> r0xoR:  thanks, will try as soon as I print something from ubuntu.com
[08:07] <DavidJaq> I could get a fresh install of ubuntu on this computer if I could boot from the cd from within the busybox console Dapper drops me into when it fails to boot, if someone could help me figure out how to do that
[08:07] <JyZky> nouse yes the browser
[08:07] <Amaranth> Overand: you can use synaptic to upgrade to the final version if you were using the rc
[08:07] <boxemall> even the panel is not responding
[08:07] <NoUse> JyZky browser?
[08:07] <jlmr> madmike, ok thnx
[08:07] <Amaranth> angryElf: it seems to work with either one
[08:07] <dust_> so i knew this once but... how do i add apps to my start up?
[08:07] <boxemall> i have to restart but i will be back in a few minutes (hope so,...)
[08:07] <NoUse> JyZky this program should run with booting off the CD, it shouldn't involve a browser
[08:07] <madmike> jlmr, Grub generally does a good job on booting windows i've got it working succesfully with windows 98 and XP
[08:07] <vermoos> scifi: ok.
[08:07] <AngryElf1> Amaranth, well i've actually got it in both, and several other places and dmesg keeps complaining it can't find it
[08:08] <Amaranth> angryElf: odd
[08:08] <NoUse> JyZky you shouldn't be in widows while this runs
[08:08] <JyZky> nouse yeye ive tried it but it comes the error...?
[08:08] <Amaranth> angryElf: this is for a kernel module?
[08:08] <aedwards232> using apt, how do you upgrade to dapper?
[08:08] <jlmr> madmike,  so far, it doesnt boot windows, otherwise it wouldnt be much of a problem, it just hangs when choosing windows
[08:08] <AngryElf1> Amaranth, yes
[08:08] <JyZky> nouse i can get the whole error msg if u want?
[08:08] <anto9us> Ajeeb71, see wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/
[08:08] <madmike> jlmr, there is also a win32 grub if you really want to boot windows before starting into ubuntu
[08:08] <NoUse> JyZky the verify program returned an error?
[08:08] <midna> is there a way to use the old text install on the new cd instead of going to a live cd install?
[08:08] <Ajeeb71> anto9us: thanks
[08:08] <DavidJaq> I could get a fresh install of ubuntu on this computer if I could boot from the cd from within the busybox console Dapper drops me into when it fails to boot, if someone could help me figure out how to do that
[08:08] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: put the cd in the drive and reboot....
[08:08] <JyZky> nouse no... the install
[08:08] <Amaranth> !tell aedwards232 about upgrade
[08:08] <N3o21> Can someone help me? I need download gcc and kernel sources for dapper drake to compile modem drivers.
[08:08] <madmike> jlmr, so you allready got ubuntu installed but you can't boot windows anymore?
[08:08] <runes> paulproteus: they claim it does but I tried it ..it will connect to the pop server ssl but the smpt server times out..so to troubleshoot I tried thunderbird and it worked
[08:09] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig ive tried... it works well the splashscreen
[08:09] <NoUse> JyZky you need to run a verify program from the boot menu, put the disc in your drive and reboot
[08:09] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig but the install get some error
[08:09] <NoUse> JyZky you aren't listening
[08:09] <jlmr> madmike, yes thats part of the problem :D
[08:09] <JyZky> nouse it is the... very the cd from any efects
[08:09] <JyZky> nouse something like that
[08:09] <NoUse> JyZky yes
[08:09] <JyZky> nouse ok ill try
[08:09] <wycats> where are the Kernel headers by default?
[08:09] <JyZky> nouse BRB
[08:09] <madmike> jlmr, ... hmm other problems that are booting related?
[08:09] <midna> is there a way to use the old text install on the new cd instead of going to a live cd install?
[08:09] <ketsugi> How do I configure the default bittorrent program? To use other ports, for example.
[08:09] <Amaranth> N3o21: you probably need to run sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:10] <jlmr> madmike, i could just use fixmbr or fdisk /mbr to get back to windows, bu then i would be unable to get into ubuntu
[08:10] <Amaranth> ketsugi: i don't think it offers that
[08:10] <DavidJaq> I could get a fresh install of ubuntu on this computer if I could boot from the cd from within the busybox console Dapper drops me into when it fails to boot, if someone could help me figure out how to do that
[08:10] <KhZillu> ... testing if hibernate finally works....
[08:10] <xanavim> yeehaw! partypartypartyparty!!!
[08:10] <neoncode> Hi, How do I chnage the driver for a Video Capture card?
[08:10] <ketsugi> Huh, really? That sucks... I don't want to have to open up 6881
[08:10] <N3o21> Amaranth: I can't. I don't have a internet connection in ubuntu, I need to compile drivers for my ADSL modem
[08:10] <ubuntu_> I have a terrible problem :(
[08:10] <Amaranth> DavidJaq: ah, i don't think you can start the installer like that
[08:10] <dust_> ?anyone know how to add applications to the start up?
[08:11] <Amaranth> N3o21: oh
[08:11] <jlmr> madmike, im trying to verify if the dd thing would work to get me back in ubuntu, otherwise it will be problem to get there :P
[08:11] <elyxi> what do i have to do if i want to update a breezy badger system to dapper drake?
[08:11] <madmike> jlmr, this should be unneccessary grub is able to provide a (working) boot-menu
[08:11] <wycats> dust_ -- sessions in the  settings
[08:11] <N3o21> Amaranth: I must dowload it from the net in windows. Reboot to ubuntu, and install it.
[08:11] <midna> is there a way to use the old text install on the new cd instead of going to a live cd install?
[08:11] <Andre4s> any swedish users here? has anyone got any keyboard problems with 6.06?
[08:11] <wycats> Where's the linux headers?
[08:11] <wycats> I see they're installed
[08:11] <KhZillu> woo
[08:11] <dust_> wycats: cheers!
[08:11] <KhZillu> hibernate works
[08:11] <Auckland_Pig> elyxi: tyype alt+f2, then "gksudo update-manager -d"
[08:11] <flask-> help! my dist-upgrade is failing with "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[08:11] <zerby_> dapper drake looks cool
[08:11] <jlmr> madmike, but it doesnt, windows doesnt boot... :(
[08:11] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, i tried it... and it doesnt work anymore lol
[08:11] <scifi> i can never remember where sources.lst is stored, can someone remind me pls
[08:11] <Auckland_Pig> !upgrade
[08:11] <madmike> jlmr, what windows do you run?
[08:12] <Amaranth> N3o21: i guess look at http://packages.ubuntu.com and download all of the packages you need and their dependencies
[08:12] <iNiku> has anyone installed dapper on an existing system with root, /usr and /home on LVM over MD, preserving /home?
[08:12] <zerby_> scarn: /apt
[08:12] <jlmr> madmike, xp
[08:12] <zerby_> oops scifi /apt
[08:12] <scifi> ty
[08:12] <jlmr> madmike, sp2 etc
[08:12] <DavidJaq> is there a way to start the install process from within Windows XP? I can't boot from CD on this computer and I don't have a floppy disk
[08:12] <ubuntu_> stupid windows :(, it doesn't work in my ntfs partition due to a resize partition
[08:12] <madmike> jlmr, on which hd, partition is it installed?
[08:12] <Auckland_Pig> elyxi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[08:12] <midna> is there a way to use the old text install on the new cd instead of going to a live cd install?
[08:12] <Amaranth> DavidJaq: actually i think that is possible, let me look
[08:12] <kermitX_> scifi: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:12] <Jeeves_> !friends++
[08:12] <zerby_> DavidJaq: no i dont think so
[08:12] <iNiku> midna: use the alternate cd
[08:12] <apokryphos> midna: yes, use the alternate CD
[08:12] <highvoltage> ubuntu_: it's best to defrag your windows disk before resizing it
[08:12] <midna> ok thank you
[08:13] <N3o21> btw, what apckage I need for MP3 support in ubuntu?
[08:13] <scifi> kermitX: got it hx
[08:13] <noob31> i have a shuttle XPC with Nvidia network
[08:13] <zerby_> kermitX_: yes sorrry
[08:13] <N3o21> *package
[08:13] <NoUse> DavidJaq search the wiki for 'installation' they have some options
[08:13] <noob31> does ubuntu support it ?
[08:13] <Amaranth> DavidJaq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows
[08:13] <vermoos> scifi: Fix /etc/apt/sources.list by replacing all occurances of breezy with dapper.  http://blog.jillesvangurp.com/2006/05/29/ubuntu-breezy-to-dapper-upgrade/
[08:13] <neoncode> Actualy Nevermind. I have a Tv Capture card connected to 4 cameras. I have no idea what chanell they broadcast on. How do I scan every possible chanell?
[08:13] <jlmr> madmike, windows xp is on the first partition on my only harddisk (it is ntfs formatted)
[08:13] <DavidJaq> thanks Amaranth
[08:13] <h3h_timo> has anyone else had a problem with dapper screwing up your ethernet??
[08:13] <Amaranth> h3h_timo: nope
[08:13] <vermoos> scifi: though i havn't tried this yet. you first?
[08:13] <gymsmoke> i'm looking for a product similar to phprunner that will run under ubuntu... anyone have any ideas?
[08:13] <noob31> i can't get my ethernet to work
[08:13] <jlmr> madmike, so that would be hd0,0 or dev/hda1
[08:13] <stf> if i was running dapper "testing" until today, and i do apt-get update/upgrade, am i running stable ? (can i check ?)
[08:13] <Amaranth> gymsmoke: what does phprunner do?
[08:13] <scifi> vermoos: hmm, is this something everyone has had to do then ?
[08:14] <madmike> jlmr, hmm... let me check my notes (bookmarks)
[08:14] <h3h_timo> Amaranth, do you have any suggestions of waht i could do to fix it.. the driver is tulip i think... and its a broadcom ethernet device
[08:14] <Avian00> Are the breezy repositories down?
[08:14] <highvoltage> Amaranth: it chases away all php code
[08:14] <ubuntu_> highvoltage I did it
[08:14] <gymsmoke> Amaranth: it's an ide for php/mysql...
[08:14] <ubuntu_> but.....I don't know what happen
[08:14] <Amaranth> h3h_timo: nope, sorry
[08:14] <Amaranth> gymsmoke: oh
[08:14] <uscg_corey>  /join #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <uscg_corey>  /join #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <Khamael> is there a webpage that explains the diff between breezy and dapper?
[08:14] <uscg_corey> wtf
[08:14] <Amaranth> gymsmoke: well, gedit does syntax highlighting
[08:14] <KhZillu> ok hibernate ALMOST works
[08:14] <pettman> something is wrong with gparted, it won't see the partitions that is already on the drive :S
[08:14] <uscg_corey> ah
[08:14] <vermoos> scifi: it sounds kinda logical, since /etc/apt/sources.list must be distro specific...
[08:14] <neoncode> Can anyone help me?
[08:14] <disinterested_pe> i just got home from cataract surgery
[08:15] <Amaranth> uscg_corey: #ubuntu+1 is closed
[08:15] <Ohzie> Is there a power moniter in the console?
[08:15] <KhZillu> coming back from hibernate and the network cards don't work
[08:15] <Ohzie> For like a laptop?
[08:15] <uscg_corey> i see that ;P
[08:15] <gymsmoke> Amaranth: it has the ability to build forms from tables in mysql
[08:15] <ubuntu_> now, in GParted is ntfs partition, but I can't mount this highvoltage
[08:15] <wycats> I really need to find the C headers for my kernel...
[08:15] <AnAnt> I have a problem with Ubuntu Dapper, a friend of mine tried his MMC and it worked, so I decided to buy one, I found an MMC+, the buyer said they are the same, so I bought one, and I discovered that it doesn't work.   Are the Dapper repositories down (sorry, I said breezy a moment ago)?
[08:15] <wycats> hey
[08:15] <rekrutacja> anyone familiar with NetworkManager? my card seems to be supported, i installed version from official ubuntu repo, but it is not working...
[08:15] <scifi> vermoos: ok im gonna try it, backup up original already in there anyway
[08:15] <gymsmoke> Amaranth: that's true... (i have crossover 5)
[08:15] <h3h_timo> Amaranth, is it possible to boot an older kernel????
[08:16] <Amaranth> h3h_timo: it might be
[08:16] <AnAnt> rukuartic: I got this in /var/log/messages: mmc2: card has unknown MMCA version 4
[08:16] <h3h_timo> Amaranth, how???
[08:16] <st> Sorry to trouble you! Is this the right place for help with installation of xampp on ubuntu?
[08:16] <rukuartic> rekrutacja: I seem to remember that some service needed to be restarted... I think it was dbus "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" maybe
[08:16] <rukuartic> can anyone confirm that?
[08:16] <Amaranth> h3h_timo: as long as you didn't uninstall it it should show up in the grub boot list
[08:16] <h3h_timo> alright.. im gonna try that..
[08:16] <onkarshinde> I am getting too many MD5mismatch errors when using CD to upgrade. Anyone else faced this?
[08:16] <Khamael> I can`t Shut Down the comp as a user... only log out, switch user, lock screen and hibernate
[08:16] <vermoos> scifi: ditto, apparantly it takes as hour, though i suspect less on broadband. its 7.16 pm in the uk
[08:16] <rekrutacja> rukuartic: i restarted whole system just minutes ago
[08:17] <soundray> Khamael: try 'sudo shutdown -h now'
[08:17] <ubuntu_> could I recover my data highvoltage?
[08:17] <rukuartic> AnAnt, rekrutacja: Just throwing out obvious answers. I really don't know much...
[08:17] <madmike> jlmr, you still there?
[08:17] <DShepherd> Khamael: it supposed to be like that
[08:17] <rukuartic> soundray: any way you can set reboot to be a non superuser command?
[08:17] <sinbad444> Khamael, i have similar problem
[08:17] <highvoltage> ubuntu_: i don't know :/
[08:17] <jlmr> madmike, yes
[08:17] <anto9us> st, yes, this is the place to ask about any support issues with ubuntu, I don't know anything about xampp though, try again after waiting a while, someone else might :)
[08:17] <sinbad444> i dont know why
[08:17] <highvoltage> it's been ages since i've used ntfs
[08:17] <Khamael> DShepherd: how do I change it?
[08:17] <madmike> jlmr, i'm still on it ;)
[08:17] <Avian00> apt-get update spits out a bunch of 403 Forbidden errors.    Are the Dapper repositories down?
[08:17] <soundray> rukuartic: I don't know... tried suid?
[08:17] <Avian00> if nobody can answer my question here, can somebody please direct me to where I CAN get a response?
[08:17] <st> ok. Thanks!
[08:17] <midna> is there a way to do a fresh install from a cd while inside breezy, or at least start it inside breezy
[08:17] <jlmr> madmike, ok, cool, im searching also
[08:17] <midna> avian: ubuntuforums.com
[08:18] <sinbad444> DShepherd: how do I change it?
[08:18] <rukuartic> soundray: I'm unfamiliar with that...
[08:18] <Raskall> hmm.. My last apt-get upgrade was yesterday. been running dapper for a couple of months. apt-get dist-upgrade says there's nothing to do. Do I have a final dapper on my laptop then?
[08:18] <onkarshinde> Anybody getting MD4 mismatch errors while upgrading with CD?
[08:18] <midna> is there a way to do a fresh install from a cd while inside breezy, or at least start it inside breezy
[08:18] <sinbad444> i want to be ABLE to shutdown Dapper !
[08:18] <onkarshinde> Raskall: Yes
[08:18] <rukuartic> Raskall: I had that happen to me as well. As far as I've been told, yes you are.
[08:18] <Avian00> ubuntuforms won't give me up-to-date info
[08:18] <Avian00> I have a vanilla CD instsasll of Dapper
[08:18] <anto9us> st, another tip, just ask your support question, you didn't really ask one :)
[08:18] <DShepherd> sinbad444: checking on it now
[08:18] <Avian00> I know my internet works
[08:19] <sinbad444> WHY doesnt Dapper allow me to Shutdown anyways ?
[08:19] <Amaranth> Raskall: yep, you're running the final version
[08:19] <DShepherd> Khamael:  checking on it now
[08:19] <sinbad444> okie
[08:19] <midna> Avian: i didn't see your question i was afk what did you ask?
[08:19] <Avian00> the only logical explination is that the repositories are down, can somebody confirm this?
[08:19] <Lynoure> rekrutacja: I might remember wrong, but I read that one needs to remove mention of the network interfaces (apart from loopback) from /etc/network/interfaces. Did that, after runnung the interfaces down. And it worked.
[08:19] <dxdemetriou> The gksudo "update-manager -d" is making correct upgrade? I have read that the update-manager will force to Dapper without the -d.
[08:19] <rukuartic> sinbad444: Eh.... linux was built to be server sized. So if someuser logged on and decided to reboot, it could cause a lot of problems.
[08:19] <scifi> can i just get some confirmation from someone that i need to replace all "breezy" references with "dapper" in my sources.list for sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to work ?
[08:19] <midna> Avian: ppl have been asking that on here recently... no real answer
[08:19] <mjr> scifi, ack
[08:19] <rukuartic> sinbad444: Just imagine working on your computer, and all of a sudden it shuts off.
[08:19] <dsas> scifi: yes
[08:19] <midna> scifi: yes
[08:19] <soundray> rukuartic: 'sudo chmod g+s binary' lets group members execute binary as root.
[08:19] <scifi> ty
[08:20] <SurfnKid> where'd spikeh go
[08:20] <SurfnKid> :P
[08:20] <dsas> dxdemetriou: You don't need the '-d' now that Dapper has been released.
[08:20] <Lynoure> rekrutacja: But I'm using it with kubuntu, so there might be some differences if you need further help
[08:20] <midna> is there a way to do a fresh install from a cd while inside breezy, or at least start it inside breezy
[08:20] <PHiSQuaRE> mmmm, I can't sudo, I think my hostname got fffed, how can I fix this little problem...
[08:20] <r0xoR> i've installed a lot of custom stuff in my breezy install: custom kernel compile, out of kernel-tree modules and FF1.5
[08:20] <mjr> soundray, incorrect. It will change the effective gid to the gid of the owner group
[08:20] <r0xoR> will an upgrade to dapper overwrite all that?
[08:20] <rukuartic> soundray: Ooof you kinda lost me on the syntax...
[08:20] <Avian00> I guess I can take that as I'm not the only having this problem
[08:20] <dxdemetriou> dsas: I know, but the update-manager don't give me the choice yet
[08:20] <midna> Avian: you are not
[08:20] <sorush20> hi
[08:20] <soundray> rukuartic: it was wrong anyway, as mjr pointed out
[08:21] <dsas> dxdemetriou: Does it work with the '-d' ?
[08:21] <midna> Avian: try using synaptic?
[08:21] <Avian00> ok.  thanks midna
[08:21] <dxdemetriou> dsas: yes
[08:21] <ak7> ok, I'm checking the md5sum of an iso in a terminal, and i'm getting different values for the same file, each time I run it
[08:21] <flask-> wow, that upgrade didn't even REMOTELY work.
[08:21] <eigenlambda> wooo 1k ppls in #ubuntu wooo
[08:21] <sorush20> just testing the ubuntu to show off to my friend .. .some one say hi to geroge please..
[08:21] <dsas> dxdemetriou: Then use that then I guess.
[08:21] <scifi> what about the 1st line #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted ?
[08:21] <midna> ak7: do a memtest
[08:21] <eigenlambda> we're more popular than debian
[08:21] <Amaranth> Avian00: the repos are working fine for me
[08:21] <rukuartic> mjr: Would you happen to know how I could allow one user to run "reboot" without using sudo?
[08:21] <Amaranth> Avian00: your mirror might be overloaded
[08:21] <WildChild> I just installed Dapper Drake but now I have a framebuffer problem with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000, does anyone has the same problem? I doesn't see anything until X.org start
[08:21] <sinbad444> wow the Dapper upgrade today is  SLOW  slow  sLoW
[08:21] <r0xoR> flask-, uh oh, heheheh, what's wrong?
[08:21] <vermoos> scifi: geez i've got 547 upgrades to do, which popped up in the synaptics gui * after * doing apt-get update
[08:21] <dcraven> Hi geroge
[08:21] <zkl-laptop> hmm, can't start gnome-session from gdm
[08:21] <PHiSQuaRE> mmmm, I can't sudo, I think my hostname got fffed, how can I fix this little problem?
[08:21] <midna> is there a way to do a fresh install from a cd while inside breezy, or at least start it inside breezy
[08:21] <rukuartic> sinbad444: Its hot stuff :)
[08:21] <midna> ?
[08:22] <Avian00> Amaranth: how can I specify a different mirror?  I've been searching google and ubuntuforms for that without any luck
[08:22] <onkarshinde> scifi: You can comment that. And if you have dapper CD then do 'susdo apt-cdrom add'
[08:22] <flask-> r0xor: ran update-manager -d, it did its thing and said it had to reboot. rebooted and no upgrade had taken place.
[08:22] <ak7> midna: bad memory can do that? :/
[08:22] <Simthumb> Hi I had a few questions about Ubuntu
[08:22] <Amaranth> midna: no, but you can use the CD to do a dist-upgrade
[08:22] <dxdemetriou> dsas: I have the cy.archive.ubuntu... It will be this the reason?
[08:22] <sinbad444> haha yeah but im only getting like 3-5Kbps !!
[08:22] <rukuartic> midna: If you shut down and put the CD in, you might be able to boot from CD and install that way :)
[08:22] <mjr> rukuartic, I would recommend sudo anyway
[08:22] <r0xoR> flask-, you have to use dist-upgrade
[08:22] <xeta> HAPPY DAPPER DAY!
[08:22] <flask-> r0xor: then I tried to manually run dist-upgrade and it complained about all my xorg-* packages needing to be removed... so I let it
[08:22] <xiko> hmm just upgraded it to dapper, everything working right
[08:22] <Amaranth> Avian00: you have to manually edit your sources.list
[08:22] <dsas> dxdemetriou: Possibly, not all mirrors will update as quick as others.
[08:22] <midna> rukuartic: cd kills my display.. as soon as it finishes booting the stupid screen goes black
[08:22] <rekrutacja> Lynoure: hmmm, i use pcmcia atheros card (madwifi driver) and remember that i have to edit sth in this file to get it running
[08:22] <mjr> rukuartic, but you could make it 4750 and owned by a group that can execute it as root
[08:22] <rukuartic> mjr: Hmm. Lemme look on editing sudoers file...
[08:22] <r0xoR> flask-, did you read and or follow any instructions? and if so which ones?
[08:22] <JyZky> nouse
[08:23] <midna> ak7: had the same problem, bad memory was my problem.. don't really know
[08:23] <JyZky> nouse 3 check summar failed
[08:23] <flask-> r0xoR: i followed the instructions in the Wiki article in the topic.
[08:23] <rukuartic> mjr: Ooooh... Make a group called "shutdown" or something, add users to that group?
[08:23] <Avian00> Amaranth: where can I find a list of mirrors?
[08:23] <r0xoR> k
[08:23] <eXistenZ> What might cause my ff to browse slowly? It downloads files fast though
[08:23] <JyZky> NoUse 3 check summars failed
[08:23] <Lynoure> rekrutacja: where   this = ?
[08:23] <Amaranth> Avian00: i dunno
[08:23] <flask-> r0xoR: and now when i try to run dist-upgrade it doesn't indicate that there's any upgrade to perform
[08:23] <midna> Amaranth: thank you.. i might resort to that, but i would really like to just get a vanilla install
[08:23] <madmike> jlmr, what does the /boot/grub/menu.lst look like (for the windows part anyway) ?
[08:23] <ak7> midna: well, thanks... not sure about the status of my warranty, that's all :(
[08:23] <Amaranth> Avian00: i just use archive.ubuntu.com
[08:23] <r0xoR> flask-, and i just have to ask... yo'ure sure that you followed them correctly and in the right order and what not?
[08:23] <shachaf> Is anyone else here having trouble with the ATi drivers?
[08:23] <pike__> eXistenZ: ipv6? or regular dns problem?
[08:23] <shachaf> They stopped working suddenly.
[08:23] <Raskall> well, then it just remains to upgrade wifey's laptop and the server.
[08:23] <iNiku> rekrutacja: I use an atheros card and madwifi too, what's your problem?
[08:23] <flask-> r0xoR: yep, I'm not new at this by any means
[08:23] <shachaf> And won't compile now.
[08:23] <midna> ak7: sorry, a memtest would tell you if its bad at least.. could be good/bad news
[08:23] <spikeh> ATI drivers aren't working?
[08:24] <rukuartic> mjr Its odd... I just looked at reboot in /sbin, its got rwxrwxrwx
[08:24] <r0xoR> k
[08:24] <jlmr> madmike, ok, trying to find that :p
[08:24] <eXistenZ> pike__, How can I fix either?
[08:24] <midna> ak7: could also be normal discrepencies in large files
[08:24] <JyZky> nouse 3 check summar errors
[08:24] <Avian00> Amaranth: that's the same one I'm using. some of them work, others do not
[08:24] <shachaf> spikeh: Not for me.
[08:24] <zambba> I dist-upgraded my Dapper system today
[08:24] <scifi> vermoos: i dont think i have to install all those tho, just updates the list
[08:24] <shachaf> spikeh: This is a Radeon Xpress 200M.
[08:24] <madmike> jlmr, just open a terminal ans write 'gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst' (without the ')
[08:24] <jlmr> madmike, title		Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[08:24] <jlmr> root		(hd0,0)
[08:24] <jlmr> savedefault
[08:24] <jlmr> makeactive
[08:24] <jlmr> chainloader	+1
[08:24] <KhZillu> where are the ubuntu wallpapers stored for gnome?
[08:25] <zambba> Now when I try to log in, I only get error "Xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp"
[08:25] <madmike> jlmr, sounds good
[08:25] <sinbad444> zambba, WelCome to the the CLUB
[08:25] <spikeh> shachaf: I have a X800GTO2, and it's giving me an error so I'm downloading the fglrx drivers
[08:25] <scifi> vermoos: i just did "sudo apt-get update" in cli
[08:25] <jlmr> madmike, yeah, it thought so :D
[08:25] <Xappe> is there a way to start gnome-terminal with a non-default charmap? (so I don't have to use the menu to change)
[08:25] <[zero] > Amaranth: could you help me with this mount business?
[08:25] <DShepherd> Khamael, sinbad444.. i can seem to find anything.. maybe i was mistaken
[08:25] <Simthumb> Does Ubuntu replace Windows (XP) or...?
[08:25] <Raskall> but on my server I have only installed software from the ubuntu repos. I _should_ be ok dist-upgrading, right?
[08:25] <[zero] > please
[08:25] <JyZky> NOUSE 3 CHECK SUMMAR FAILED
[08:25] <scifi> vermoos: hmmm NOW its saying 577 updates in pop-menu too lol
[08:25] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Depends on how you install it. You can have it completely take over the hard drive, or share it.
[08:25] <shachaf> spikeh: I'm trying to compile the latest fglrx drivers.
[08:25] <aedwards232> I tryed gksudo "update-manager -d" and got this "After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-base' can not be found anymore." is this a known issue?
[08:25] <zkl-laptop> .xsession-errors isn't telling me anything insightful either
[08:25] <sinbad444> DShep,  thx anyways !!  :)
[08:26] <shachaf> spikeh: Though I tried the old ones too.
[08:26] <vermoos> scifi: yeah ditto
[08:26] <midna> when i boot up the new install cd the screen goes black after the brown ubuntu startup sequence, the sound plays but no video any ideas?
[08:26] <DShepherd> Khamael, sinbad444 that was cant not can
[08:26] <spikeh> shachaf: oh? I'm just using apt-get xorg-drivers-fglrx
[08:26] <DShepherd> sinbad444: sure,, no prob
[08:26] <rekrutacja> iNiku: NetworkManager is not working
[08:26] <spikeh> shachaf: not sure if it will work yet :D
[08:26] <shachaf> spikeh: I'll try that, I guess.
[08:26] <ifxx> hey @all ... has anyone set up the sgi performer with ubuntu??
[08:26] <scifi> vermoos: said it cant install all of them, says i need to do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in console, so im gonna do that now
[08:26] <Avian00> Amaranth: Thanks for your help
[08:26] <iNiku> rekrutacja: at all? what does it do?
[08:26] <sinbad444> hey guys how do i disable quits/join messages in xchat-gnome ?? i looked everywhere
[08:26] <soundray> midna: do you get a console login when you hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 ?
[08:26] <madmike> what does 'sudo fdisk -l' say?
[08:26] <Simthumb> @rukuartic Can it partition my hard drive?
[08:27] <scifi> vermoos: hmmm or shud i install these updates first ?
[08:27] <madmike> jlmr, what does 'sudo fdisk -l' say?
[08:27] <midna> soundray: yes i do
[08:27] <flask-> r0xoR: nevermind, i think it was a sources.list problem
[08:27] <Ohzie> Hey, I was here earlier and someone told me that to fix my problem I had to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but that isn't helping.
[08:27] <rukuartic> sinbad444: /part (channel) (message)
[08:27] <r0xoR> flask-, ahh i see
[08:27] <DavidJaq> in the wiki I see a confusing instruction... 'Extract grldr from the archive to c:\grldr. The rest of the files in the archive are unnecessary. (If your default compression/archive program doesn't like *.gz files, try 7-Zip from www.7-zip.org.)'
[08:27] <vermoos> scifi: i think the updates which come through the gui *are* the ugrade to dapper
[08:27] <[zero] > Someone help Im at the point on > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions < where its Preparing the system, but I dont understand the command because I want to mount /dev/hdb5  :????
[08:27] <rekrutacja> iNiku: displays in panel "no network connection" which is obviously not true
[08:27] <flask-> r0xoR: copied one off the forums, reran apt-get update, re-ran dist-upgrade and now it's flyin
[08:27] <aedwards232> I tryed gksudo "update-manager -d" and got this "After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-base' can not be found anymore." is this a known issue?
[08:27] <DavidJaq> does that mean that I should extract grldr to the C drive or into a folder called grldr on the c drive?
[08:27] <scifi> vermoos: ok ive pressed "install updates" now
[08:27] <r0xoR> flask-, hehehe, i fought with my computer a bunch last time... then realized i was just a little bit sped and took a notch of my ego :)
[08:28] <madmike> jlmr, (i.e. is windows xp really on this first partition?!)
[08:28] <rukuartic> [zero] : what type of filesystem is it?
[08:28] <rekrutacja> iNiku: i had to start dhclient manually in order to connect
[08:28] <soundray> midna: log in there, run 'sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and set the video driver to vesa (leave everything else as is, say no to autodetection).
[08:28] <r0xoR> flask-, lemme know how it works :)
[08:28] <jldWork> so is it safe to use "update-manager -d" to upgrade to dapper, or will that go to "edgey eft"?
[08:28] <iNiku> rekrutacja: does it show any networks available in the menu?
[08:28] <Simthumb> Do I have to manually partition my disk?
[08:28] <rekrutacja> iNiku: NO
[08:28] <scifi> vermoos: and i will also do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade when they have completed installing
[08:28] <[zero] > rukuartic: W95 FAT32
[08:28] <Simthumb> Or will it automatically partition?
[08:28] <midna> soundray: ok i'll try that.. thank you greatly
[08:28] <Simthumb> Or no partition at all?
[08:28] <Khamael> DShepherd: I looked at some screenshots of dapper, and the shutdown function is there
[08:28] <JyZky> WHAT THA FACK
[08:28] <rekrutacja> iNiku: and i am connected to internet via wifi right now, no cables at all
[08:28] <soundray> midna: afterwards, restart gdm with 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[08:28] <JyZky> NOUSE 3 fucking summars failed answer
[08:28] <spikeh> shachaf: it's not working
[08:28] <iNiku> rekrutacja: weird, it worked for me a couple of weeks ago... I ended up tossing it in favor of /etc/network/interfaces, though
[08:28] <rukuartic> [zero] : Ah I have a fat32 mount as well. You say that its hdb5?
[08:29] <[zero] > yeh
[08:29] <DavidJaq> in the wiki I see a confusing instruction... 'Extract grldr from the archive to c:\grldr. The rest of the files in the archive are unnecessary. (If your default compression/archive program doesn't like *.gz files, try 7-Zip from www.7-zip.org.)'... does that mean that I should extract grldr to the C drive or into a folder called grldr on the c drive?
[08:29] <rukuartic> [zero] : try this
[08:29] <iNiku> rekrutacja: so it works after the manual dhclient?
[08:29] <jlmr> madmike,   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda1   *           1        1411    11333826    7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda2            1412        4099    21591360    7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda3            4100        4864     6144862+   5  Extended
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda5            4100        4609     4096543+  83  Linux
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda6            4610        4673      514048+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda7            4674        4864     1534176   83  Linux
[08:29] <tahorg> (ouch)
[08:29] <scifi> vermoos: apparently mine will only take 20mins to update ( well to download anyway )
[08:29] <Simthumb> rukuartic: do I have to partition my drive? Is it possible to run Ubuntu and WinXP side-by-side?
[08:29] <rekrutacja> iNiku: network connection works, not netwrokmanager
[08:29] <dsas> !tell jlmr about pastebin
[08:29] <Simthumb> I don't see anything in the FAQ about that
[08:29] <rukuartic> [zero] : sudo mkdir /media/fat32; sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb5 /media/fat32
[08:30] <zkl-laptop> looks like i'm bit by bug 40748
[08:30] <midna> soundray: will do.. thanks for your help
[08:30] <vermoos> scifi: i'm almost done
[08:30] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Yes you do have to partition your hard drive, and yes its possible. I'm doing it myself.
[08:30] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Thats called dual boting.
[08:30] <stjepan> rukuartic, it is much better to put it in fstab
[08:30] <scifi> vermoos: kewl
[08:30] <Simthumb> Simthumb: So does Ubuntu LiveCD do that for me?
[08:30] <rukuartic> stjepan: Yep, I'm just explaining mount
[08:30] <Simthumb> oops
[08:30] <jlmr> dsas, ok
[08:30] <madmike> jlmr, well... it is
[08:30] <iNiku> rekrutacja: okay, no really good ideas there... as I said, I don't use NM
[08:30] <soundray> DavidJaq: extract to a folder.
[08:30] <rekrutacja> this is my /etc/network/interfaces file http://pastebin.com/751819
[08:30] <Simthumb> rukuartic: so does Ubuntu do that for me?
[08:30] <iNiku> rekrutacja: ohh
[08:30] <vermoos> scifi: 14 minutes :)
[08:30] <Simthumb> rukuartic: or do I have to do it?
[08:30] <rukuartic> Simthumb: yes it does, but its a tad risky. I lost my ntfs partition once--fortunately there was nothing on it
[08:30] <rekrutacja> iNiku: this is my /etc/network/interfaces file http://pastebin.com/751819
[08:30] <Simthumb> With a 3rd party software?
[08:30] <Getwild2> I get the error, "Can't resolve host name "unix"!", whenever I execute a command in the shell.  Any ideas?
[08:31] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Wow...so then how do I partition?
[08:31] <jlmr> madmike, it looks alright doesnt it, but it doesnt work
[08:31] <[zero] > rukuartic: now when I click on it nothing happens?
[08:31] <jab> Performancevise how does a debian x86 (userland) with an 64-bits kernel perform vs. ubuntu amd64 on a AMD64 CPU system?
[08:31] <rukuartic> Simthumb: The live CD does it for you. How much data do you have on your drive?
[08:31] <iNiku> rekrutacja: did you comment out the ath0 lines before trying network manager?
[08:31] <stjepan> anyone here runs the stable dapper?
[08:31] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Should I dare try using command-line?
[08:31] <jlmr> mamike, thats why i wanted to switch back to ntldr
[08:31] <iNiku> rekrutacja: NM won't touch interfaces that have configs in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:31] <Simthumb> rukuartic: lol about 35gigs
[08:31] <stjepan> any thoughs of the new dapper? any experiences?
[08:31] <rekrutacja> iNiku: no. ath0 is my pcmcia wifi card
[08:31] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: did you get ubuntu working?
[08:31] <Booo> is there a problem with iso for ppc?
[08:31] <jlmr> madmike, thats why i wanted to switch back to ntldr
[08:31] <rukuartic> [zero] : You probably have to be the super user to open the folder... try this... open a terminal and do "sudo -i;cd /media/fat32"
[08:31] <gil> i have a toshiba m40x....i cant for the life of me get the Card reader to pick up an inserted card
[08:31] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Out of how much space?
[08:31] <scifi> vermoos: maxing out my measly 1mbit, package servers must be getting hammered, but still managing to max me out :D
[08:31] <stjepan> I'm just running dapper now 8-)
[08:31] <iNiku> rekrutacja: yes, you have to comment it out in /etc/network/interfaces if you want to use NM
[08:31] <rekrutacja> iNiku: ok, will try hashing it
[08:31] <Simthumb> rukuartic: out of 37gig
[08:32] <soundray> jab, it makes little difference for desktop type applications.
[08:32] <rekrutacja> thanks all
[08:32] <jbrouhard> Howdy...
[08:32] <GreatBriton> i get an error message when trying to activate the nvidia graphics driver on dapper, help please?
[08:32] <iNiku> rekrutacja: eth0 too
[08:32] <xetas> stjepen: its awesome, how r u liking it
[08:32] <iNiku> rekrutacja: if you want NM to manage that
[08:32] <jbrouhard> Anyone have trouble running sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre ?
[08:32] <madmike> jlmr, it really could be that grub is installed on the MBR and that XP doesn't want to boot because of this
[08:32] <Simthumb> rukuartic: do I have to free more space?
[08:32] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Oooooh. That'd be bad. What I reccommend is this, get a second hard drive, plug the blank hard drive in as the primary and the full hard drive (windows) as the second. When you install from the CD, tell it to install to the blank hard drive.
[08:32] <h3h_timo> is there a way to change the ethernet adapter that you are using?
[08:32] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Yea, you kinda need about 2 gigs for Linux and 512 for swap.
[08:32] <iNiku> damnit... why isn't my irssi hilight working
[08:32] <dxdemetriou> It didn't work the update-manager for upgrade yet. If I use the cd it will be ok with the update manager?
[08:32] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oy-vey
[08:33] <rukuartic> Simthumb: You PROBABLY could do it, but it'd be really tight and kinda risky
[08:33] <Simthumb> rukuartic: So how big a hard drive do I need?
[08:33] <buzzed> any good website capture utilities for offline viewing of a site
[08:33] <buzzed> ?
[08:33] <ak7> midna: found the problem... was running the md5sum on the torrent I'm still downloading :)
[08:33] <jlmr> madmike, but it is strange my windows partition is marked as active, and grub find tells me that grub is installed on hd0,4
[08:33] <dsas> buzzed: wget if you fancy the command line.
[08:33] <soundray> h3h_timo: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:33] <jab> soundray: were does the difference appear?
[08:33] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Wow...
[08:33] <rukuartic> Simthumb: 3 gigs minimum. I'm sitting comfortably on a 80 right now. Four partitions. Windows, Linux, Swap, and a drive to share between the twol
[08:33] <dsas> buzzed: There may be some graphical applications for it, I don't know any offhand though.
[08:33] <Booo> seem to a problem iso for ppc
[08:33] <GreatBriton> i get an error message when trying to activate the nvidia graphics driver on dapper, help please?
[08:33] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Wow!
[08:33] <rukuartic> Simthumb: No, don't get me wrong. You can install linux on your 37 gb hard drive. I really don't reccommend it though
[08:33] <soundray> jab, in numbercrunching/memory I/O intensive applications.
[08:34] <buzzed> wget may work
[08:34] <jab> soundray: ok, thanks :)
[08:34] <Simthumb> rukuartic: If I do install it on my 37gig,
[08:34] <h3h_timo> soundray, my etherent doesnt work.. i have a davicom etherent device.. and the driver is tulip compatible i think.. but it never connects.. it worked before i upgraded.. but not now
[08:34] <Simthumb> rukuartic: What are the risks?
[08:34] <avarab> heh, my ubuntu dist-upgrade failed
[08:34] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Losing my data?
[08:34] <avarab> 'python2.4-twisted: Depends: python2.4-twisted-conch (>= 1:0.6) but it is not installed'
[08:34] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Losing data, possibly messing up your hard drive
[08:34] <psycose> hi i'm using Dapper up to date, and i'm trying to install the nvidia-glx driver ... sounds like the procedure may as changed. any good doc ?
[08:34] <soundray> h3h_timo: is the tulip driver loaded?
[08:34] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oy
[08:34] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Well, not permanantly messing it up
[08:34] <[zero] > rukuartic:  it worked THANKX!!! :D:D:D
[08:34] <rukuartic> [zero] : No problem
[08:34] <Simthumb> rukuartic: So if I get 2 disk drives,
[08:34] <jaek> Simthumb, 37 gigs is plenty... just keep the porn down to managable levels
[08:34] <[zero] > rukuartic:  you are A LEGEND!!
[08:35] <rukuartic> [zero] : Its not permanant though. as soon as you reboot it will unmount. And no thats Seveas
[08:35] <Simthumb> jaek: the what?????
[08:35] <midna> soundray: YOU ARE MY HERO! my display works now! woohoo!
[08:35] <rukuartic> [zero] : To make it permanant you need to put this in fstab
[08:35] <jaek> Simthumb, you know what i'm talking about ;)
[08:35] <spikeh> I'm in Ubuntu, but where's the installation screen?
[08:35] <Simthumb> jaek: no I don't jaek
[08:35] <T-CAN> i have linux installed on a 7gig hard :)
[08:35] <rukuartic> jaek: he's got a 37 gig drive with 35 gig of data
[08:35] <spikeh> I did not download the LiveCD?
[08:35] <T-CAN> *harddrve
[08:35] <[zero] > rukuartic: fstab?
[08:35] <Simthumb> rukuartic: so will an 8gig be enough?
[08:35] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig no
[08:35] <madmike> jlmr, I'm out know-how here sorry...  Read the wiki on ATI or NVidia-specific drivers.
[08:35] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig 3 checking summary errors
[08:35] <Simthumb> rukuartic: if I have 2 HDDs, can I choose to log on into Windows or Linux?
[08:35] <rukuartic> [zero] : yes, fstab is basically a file that tells Linux what to mount at the boot
[08:35] <dsas> spikeh: There should be an icon in the top corner saying "install"
[08:35] <GreatBriton> psycose: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia has worked for me, up until it comes to activating the driver, which fails for me and i need help with
[08:35] <soundray> midna: if that's what you have
[08:36] <jaek> Simthumb, rukuartic: oooh, i see....
[08:36] <rukuartic> Simthumb: You can have two or 1 hd and boot into linux or windows
[08:36] <dsas> spikeh: Top corner of the desktop that is.
[08:36] <rukuartic> Simthumb: If you have two, the first (primary/master) hard drive needs to have linux on it
[08:36] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: did you burn the cd image onto a cd?
[08:36] <spikeh> dsas I have clicked it but nothing is happening
[08:36] <[zero] > rukuartic: ah k, any chance you could tell me how to do that?
[08:36] <midna> soundray: yes i have nvidia.. thank you very much for the starting point.. i'll start lookin
[08:36] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh I see
[08:36] <h3h_timo> soundray, i have no idea
[08:36] <rukuartic> [zero] : Sure thing. Here, i'll give you a line
[08:36] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig yes with Nero
[08:36] <soundray> !tell midna about nvidia
[08:36] <livevil> does someone know a valid italian server for dictionary?
[08:36] <jlmr> madmike,  any idea how to reinstall grub from livecd?
[08:36] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I have a used 8gig HDD from my old comp which I can plug into this one
[08:37] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: now leave the cd in the cd drive and reboot your computerr
[08:37] <soundray> h3h_timo: do a 'lsmod | grep tulip' and see if it generates any output.
[08:37] <Simthumb> rukuartic: but will the live CD modify my current HDD?
[08:37] <ubun> olhei desculpei mas no queria entrar neste canal.
[08:37] <dsas> spikeh: Odd, you did double click it right? It should launch a new window.
[08:37] <Simthumb> rukuartic: If I install it on this 37gig one
[08:37] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig i just did it
[08:37] <luna_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:37] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig it said 3 fails
[08:37] <rukuartic> [zero] : /dev/sda4       /media/share    vfat    rw,dev,exec,auto,user,sync,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[08:37] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig 3 checking summary fails
[08:37] <gil> i have a toshiba m40x....i cant for the life of me get the Card reader to pick up an inserted card
[08:37] <madmike> jlmr, it's almost the same as when you run it from a 'real' one. You just need to run grub with some more options
[08:37] <Auckland_Pig> hmmmm... how did you download the .iso file?
[08:37] <rukuartic> [zero] : put that line in /etc/fstab, and change /dev/sda4 to /dev/hdb5
[08:37] <spikeh> dsas yes I have double clicked it; and it says starting administrative application at the bottom but then it disappears
[08:37] <taan> hi, where did the X configuration utility go? (used to be xf86config, XFconfig, system-..., etc)
[08:37] <spikeh> dsas it was a bit hit and miss getting Xserver working; could this be the issue?
[08:37] <[zero] > ok
[08:38] <rukuartic> Simthumb: No, the live CD won't modify your current unless you tell it to install
[08:38] <T-CAN> rukuartic, vfat is read-only though right?
[08:38] <madmike> jlmr, 'grub-install /dev/hd...'
[08:38] <C_REATiVE_> what does dapper writes after install oem, how can i setup the users ?
[08:38] <rukuartic> Simthumb: What it does is use your RAM like a hard drive and puts itself on there
[08:38] <jlmr> madmike, ok, ill figure it out, thnx for your help
[08:38] <rukuartic> T-CAN: No, thats NTFS
[08:38] <Simthumb> rukuartic: that's what I mean...
[08:38] <luna_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:38] <dsas> spikeh: Possibly, I'm not to hot on the live cd install personally. It may be better if someone else tries to help you.
[08:38] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh...
[08:38] <h3h_timo> soundray... just like you typed it?
[08:38] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Nope. Until you double click "Install to HD" then it doesn't touch your hard drive.
[08:38] <kbrooks> luna_: DONT POST YOUR EMAIL
[08:38] <madmike> jlmr, your welcome ... good luck
[08:38] <kane777> so... the most common question today, i think... how do I upgrade to dapper??
[08:38] <Simthumb> rukuartic: So there is a pretty big risk I could lose some files?
[08:38] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig 3 checking summary fails
[08:39] <rukuartic> Simthumb: No, if you do it very carefully you should be fine.
[08:39] <T-CAN> rukuartic, so in fstab i can set umask to 0755 and be able to r/w/execute?
[08:39] <spikeh> could someone else please explain to me why the install script isn't working?
[08:39] <iNiku> kane777: read the topic
[08:39] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: you might probably need to download again...
[08:39] <rukuartic> Simthumb: But you'd have to be VERY careful. And I wouldn't risk it.
[08:39] <evi|one> I don't want ubuntu to place icons for the drives mounted in /media on the desktop. How do I stop it from doing that?
[08:39] <kane777> !upgrade
[08:39] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig ok... from where :) ?
[08:39] <soundray> h3h_timo: without the quotes.
[08:39] <rukuartic> T-CAN: ...I think. I'm not a fstab whiz.
[08:39] <Booo> has anyone here install the ppc version ?
[08:39] <Simthumb> rukuartic: LOL.
[08:39] <h3h_timo> alright.. ill try it
[08:39] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig from where have you downloaded it
[08:39] <Simthumb> rukuartic: What if I backup most of my stuff?
[08:39] <kbrooks> evi|one: you don't.
[08:39] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig what mirror
[08:39] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Mostly all the junk is games and my web designs
[08:39] <rukuartic> Simthumb: If you do decide to do it, first defragment your hard drive and put all your files together
[08:39] <pike__> evi|one: edit the /etc/fstab file
[08:40] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Yea, definately clear up space if you can.
[08:40] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Yeah...
[08:40] <iNiku> rekrutacja: did you get it working?
[08:40] <kbrooks> Sinistrad: games?
[08:40] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:40] <evi|one> kbrooks: you're positive there's no way to prevent that?
[08:40] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I'll try
[08:40] <kbrooks> Simthumb: what games?
[08:40] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I think I can clear up at least a few gigs
[08:40] <DavidJaq> How do I uninstall grub?
[08:40] <rukuartic> Simthumb: But yeah. Back up all your data, delete anything you don't need, move files from HD to CD's etc
[08:40] <rekrutacja> iNiku: not yet i have to take my sone to bathroom right now :-)
[08:40] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: hope it works
[08:40] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig burn to cd and test again?
[08:40] <Raskall> there. started dist-upgrade on my server too... *saying a small prayer*
[08:40] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I have  a download folder that's holding a ton of junk
[08:40] <shachaf> When I try to load the fglrx module, I get "*ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed". I can't find any information about that -- has anyone else had this problem?
[08:40] <kbrooks> evi|one: pretty sure, but less than positive
[08:40] <iNiku> rekrutacja: haha, okay, first things first :)
[08:40] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Also try clearing Temporary Files
[08:40] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig ill change cd
[08:40] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Lol, The Sims, The Sims 2, Sim stuff
[08:40] <phatmonkey> i am running dapper RC using http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu repositories. have these not been updated yet? I see no upgrades in apt
[08:40] <evi|one> kbrooks: alright, thanks
[08:41] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Thats C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name\Temporary I think
[08:41] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig maybie its a scratch on the cd ^^
[08:41] <Simthumb> rukuartic: And can Windows programs run in Linux?
[08:41] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: or you can do a md5 checksum before you burn
[08:41] <kbrooks> Simthumb: depends.
[08:41] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Most of them can with a program called "Wine"
[08:41] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: probably...
[08:41] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oy
[08:41] <Sub> !wine
[08:41] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux. Get the latest .deb from http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[08:41] <T-CAN> ubotu tell T-CAN about cli
[08:41] <rukuartic> Simthumb: But not all of them do, or at least very well.
[08:41] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig its downloading
[08:41] <Auckland_Pig> !md5
[08:41] <ubotu> I guess md5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[08:41] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh boy....
[08:41] <rukuartic> Simthumb: There, read what ubotu just said about wine.
[08:41] <dsas> phatmonkey: I'm using the same one, they are updated.
[08:41] <[zero] > rukuartic: do I put that line in a file for fstab? :S
[08:41] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig msn?
[08:41] <DavidJaq> How do I uninstall grub?
[08:41] <uscg_corey> anyone know when i try to run a steaming video hru firefox with the totem xine player it shows a blue screen where ideo should be then screen goes black
[08:41] <iNiku> so boring... no updates in over 24 hours, I think :)
[08:41] <kbrooks> !tell me about wine
[08:41] <phatmonkey> dsas, are there many packages? I got two earlier today, but that's it
[08:42] <vermoos> scifi: it says "run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely."
[08:42] <rukuartic> [zero] : Yep. Make sure you're editing the file as root (gksudo gedit /etc/fstab)
[08:42] <Simthumb> rukuartic: ah ok
[08:42] <[zero] > kk
[08:42] <scifi> vermoos: yep sounds right
[08:42] <Simthumb> rukuartic: But,
[08:42] <psycose> GreatBriton Can Geforce fx 5200 be considered as geforce1 or geforce2 ?
[08:42] <Simthumb> rukuartic: If I wanna run my games or stuff,
[08:42] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: verify the iso before you burn
[08:42] <Ohzie> Anybody having issues with getting their xserver running, install the new version of your nvidia or ati modules by installing the package linux-restricted-modules-(uname -r)
[08:42] <dsas> phatmonkey: You're probably updated to the final release
[08:42] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I can just log onto Windows and run them right?
[08:42] <scifi> vermoos: mines installing installing remaining updates
[08:42] <bionic> any descent video editing prog for linux?
[08:42] <gil> will someone please help me with a toshiba built in card reader....
[08:42] <soundray> Simthumb: you'd have to reboot.
[08:42] <dsas> phatmonkey: Have you ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[08:42] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I just wanna keep Ubuntu for my office-stuff
[08:42] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Yeah. Games are best run from windows.
[08:43] <Fast> is the a non-live cd installer for breezy?
[08:43] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Thats what I do :P
[08:43] <Simthumb> soundray: That's not a big deal for me :P
[08:43] <soundray> bionic: cinelerra seems to make waves
[08:43] <Simthumb> rukuartic: heheheh :P
[08:43] <phatmonkey> dsas, yes. is there any sneaky way to tell what i am running?
[08:43] <soundray> Simthumb: read the wiki on dual booting
[08:43] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig ugotmsn?
[08:43] <soundray> !tell Simthumb about dualboot
[08:43] <phatmonkey> i'm guessing the rc is the same, so suppose not
[08:43] <Simthumb> rukuartic: There's wiki on that?
[08:43] <vermoos> scifi: ... which is taking a while....
[08:43] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I've been looking all night for it!
[08:43] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: no...
[08:43] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Its also difficult to share files between Windows and Linux... NTFS and EXT3 (linux) don't talk with each other.
[08:43] <Simthumb> rukuartic: ROFL
[08:43] <madmike> !tell madmike about dualboot
[08:43] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Oh yeah, its called dual booting.
[08:43] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig kk
[08:43] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig brb
[08:43] <T-CAN> ubotu tell T-CAN about permissions
[08:43] <rukuartic> madmike: /msg ubotu dual booting
[08:44] <Simthumb> rukuartic: /me goes to look
[08:44] <morten__> you can share files easily if you get a nfs server for windows
[08:44] <Raskall> what the heck? Is there a 10 CD maximum on shipit now? Who do I call to get/buy more cd's? I'm starting up my ubuntu company now and need more than 10 cd's.
[08:44] <rukuartic> morten__: I just made a fat32 share
[08:44] <soundray> morten__: only if you have at least two computers, though ;)
[08:44] <dsas> phatmonkey: What does dpkg -l pcmicia-cs give you?
[08:44] <BWD> what package do i need to install to play mp3s?
[08:45] <rukuartic> Raskall: Its not like windows where you can only use the CD once and it self destruscts :P
[08:45] <gil> ohzie:?
[08:45] <dsas> !tell bwd about mp3
[08:45] <BWD> dsas: thank you
[08:45] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, yea....  1 CD is still enough for a whole company...  : )
[08:45] <Raskall> rukuartic: I know, but I plan to get more than 10 customers for my company. :)
[08:45] <Simthumb> rukuartic: is it a good idea to have all my stuff backed up by a comp tech?
[08:45] <Simthumb> rukuartic: b/c I have a broken cd burner
[08:45] <jason^> i'm having problems with the installer, it just keeps blinking and my monitors say it's in power save mode
[08:45] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Nooo you can do al that yourself
[08:45] <sally_> how do I get the network manager applet to show?  I installed gnome-network-manager
[08:45] <soundray> Raskall: you're allowed to make your own copies
[08:45] <RandolphCarter> hmm, beagle-build-in seems to have got itself stuck in an infinite loop (posting output of ltrace)
[08:45] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Ha-ha, thought so
[08:45] <Ohzie> gil: nevermind
[08:46] <mjmac> anyone gotten Xgl/Compiz working on AMD64/nvidia?
[08:46] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Ooooh. Then yea it might be nice to do that
[08:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, if you want more give me your address and 1$ per CD and I'll create as many as you would like   : )
[08:46] <Simthumb> rukuartic: oh lol
[08:46] <Raskall> FunnyLookinHat: I am going to sell server installations of ubuntu and SLA's to small and medium size companies. The customers will probably like to get "original" cd's instead of a home-burned one
[08:46] <morten__> soundray, yes
[08:46] <mjmac> compiz segfaults when i run it
[08:46] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Just purchase a cheap hard drive
[08:46] <rukuartic> Simthumb: They're not too expensive
[08:46] <gil> ohzie: i am sorry i am not regsitered
[08:46] <nexus10> Can anyone advise what's the best way to share a server directory with Linux laptops? Tried NFS (which is s_l_o_w), smbfs(cannot control perms), sshfs(cannot get it to automount) -- recommendations?
[08:46] <Simthumb> rukuartic: yeah...
[08:46] <gil> can you please tell me what info you have
[08:46] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I have an old one that's 8gigs
[08:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, ooh, well if that's the case....  you should pay shipit rather than just make a profit off of what they are giving you for free.
[08:46] <rukuartic> Simthumb: That works
[08:46] <Booo> I am newbie at this what iso should i be d/l if i want to have dapper install permantely?
[08:46] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Problem is, I'm afraid to install it myself - I'm not much of a hardware person
[08:46] <rukuartic> Raskall: Yeah.
[08:46] <Simthumb> rukuartic: lol
[08:46] <shachaf> sally_: Run "nm-applet".
[08:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, you may run into some issues selling those CDs....  legal issues.
[08:47] <shachaf> sally_: Or log out and back in.
[08:47] <krazykit> Booo: either the alternative install or the livecd
[08:47] <nomis__> my mouse cursor flickers when I load a programm, since I use the nvidia-glx. Anybody an idea what I can do?
[08:47] <Raskall> FunnyLookinHat: hence "who do I call to get/buy more cd's"
[08:47] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Its not too hard. Get help from a friend
[08:47] <Simthumb> rukuartic: yeah
[08:47] <Ohzie> gil: Oh.
[08:47] <Raskall> FunnyLookinHat: not selling cd's. selling a server install.
[08:47] <BWD> nomis__: i experience the same thing
[08:47] <Sithik> hey all
[08:47] <soundray> nexus10: how slow is NFS for you? Works fine for me.
[08:47] <Sithik> quick question
[08:47] <Simthumb> rukuartic: ok by deleting some old files, I cleared up about another gig
[08:48] <rukuartic> Simthumb: That works
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I have about 4 gigs free
[08:48] <jayrod06> hey guys
[08:48] <Booo> krazykit: I dont see liveCD
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic is that enough?
[08:48] <Sithik> where exactly can i download the LiveCD?
[08:48] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Well, the more the better.
[08:48] <Fast> the installer keeps locking up on the dapper live install cd... is there a dapper installer that isn't combined with a live cd?
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic: cool :D
[08:48] <rukuartic> Booo: Desktop = livecd
[08:48] <dsas> Booo: It's called the desktop cd
[08:48] <Raskall> FunnyLookinHat: for companies that need/want to save money buying expensive firewalls, windows servers and mail servers
[08:48] <michaels> (gedit:12894): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib - what does this mean?
[08:48] <ben42> a friend of mine updated to dapper today and lost all his network - devices besides the loopback-device
[08:48] <dsas> Fast: Get the 'alternative' cd
[08:48] <jayrod06> anyone run it on a mac yet? preferably a macbook or macbook pro
[08:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, wait...  so you're just installing a server for them?  then use burned CDs.   : )
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Yep
[08:48] <hazart> Is there a way to rebuild all modules that was made with module-assistant when a new kernel gets installed? If not, automatic updates could make the system boot a new kernel, without AFS modules installed.
[08:48] <ben42> is it a known problem?
[08:48] <kenni> Does new ubuntu support nvidia geforce 7900gt graphics card?  (The doc at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia doesn't do the trick - the driver fails to recognice the card apparently - even claiming the card is of ATI brand in the xorg.conf!).
[08:48] <Booo> dsas which is better?
[08:48] <dsas> jayrod06: People have.
[08:48] <nexus10> soundray: about 3+ minutes to connect :-(
[08:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Sounds like you should custom build an OEM type CD anyways
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic: And did you order the LiveCD by mail?
[08:48] <sally_> shachaf: I've used network-manager applet before and I thought it showed a list of available access points when you click on it.  when I click on this icon it doesnt show a list of access points, it just lets me configure the interface through the ubuntu network-admin, am I missing something?
[08:48] <rendo> How do you do that 3d moving of the desktop in Dapper?
[08:48] <soundray> nexus10: that can be helped...
[08:48] <FunnyLookinHat> kenni, Yes, I use it and works great
[08:48] <no0ke> !rc
[08:48] <ubotu> To Upgrade from RC to final, just: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:48] <rukuartic> Raskall: They have the images to stamp ont he CD, just print them out and put them on yourself
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Any idea how long it really takes? (they say 4-6 weeks,I just ordered it yesterday)
[08:49] <Raskall> FunnyLookinHat: Customers often like a physical product they can touch and that looks good in their shelf.
[08:49] <FunnyLookinHat> kenni, the 8756 driver (newest) is the only one that supports it
[08:49] <dsas> Booo: It depends, alternative is better for OEMs, server installs, RAID. Desktop is better if you want to try first, or want to install using a graphical installer.
[08:49] <Jeeves_> !breezy?
[08:49] <ubotu> Breezy was the current stable version of Ubuntu. If you would like to upgrade to it, the guide to upgrading to Breezy is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:49] <kenni> FunnyLookinHat, what are we doing wrong here?
[08:49] <shachaf> sally_: Yes, that's a different applet.
[08:49] <conn> hi, is it possible to rename partition numbers? e.g., rename hda7 to hda2 (providing hda2 doesn't already exist)?
[08:49] <nexus10> soundray: great!
[08:49] <Jeeves_> !dapper?
[08:49] <shachaf> sally_: Did you run nm-applet?
[08:49] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[08:49] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, this is true.  Well email shipit and see if they'll sell you a bulk/discount
[08:49] <rukuartic> Raskall: Asides. Linux is free, you can't put a price on it. I think the only thing you could put on the price was hardware. Um... Anyone in here a GPL wizard?
[08:49] <soundray> nexus10: do you have DHCP?
[08:49] <pianoboy3333> What's the difference between Native and Autohinter in fontconfig?
[08:49] <Booo> dsas: how to i install from liveCD to make it permantly is this an option
[08:49] <FunnyLookinHat> kenni, not sure.  Follow the directions as carefully as possible.  I can help troubleshoot you in about 6 hours when I am home from work
[08:49] <rukuartic> Simthumb: No clue =\
[08:49] <dxdemetriou> In Breezy my ethernet is eth0. In Dapper is eth1 after upgrade. Can I change this?
[08:49] <zkl-laptop> wtf, i'm missing practically all of gnome after a fresh install
[08:49] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Lol.
[08:49] <nexus10> soundray: nope, fixed IPs
[08:49] <djm62> Where is the Nelson Mandela (NRM?) footage on an upgraded install?
[08:49] <rukuartic> Simthumb: I downloaded the beta, and I've been running that for a while
[08:49] <FunnyLookinHat> Booo, there should be a desktop shortcut labeled "Install" or omething on the liveCD
[08:50] <dsas> Booo: There should be an icon on the desktop saying "install"
[08:50] <rukuartic> djm62: thats in Examples
[08:50] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh I see
[08:50] <Booo> ok thanks
[08:50] <rekrutacja> iNiku: bad bad bad
[08:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Booo, only works on the newest live CDs
[08:50] <PHiSQuaRE> grrr, I hate switching distros, I'm so damned lost now....
[08:50] <PHiSQuaRE> heh
[08:50] <soundray> nexus10: have you got all your laptops listed in /etc/hosts on the server?
[08:50] <Booo> FunnyLookinHat:?
[08:50] <shachaf> rukuartic: You could sell it for as much as you like.
[08:50] <crazy_penguin> dxdemetriou: change it in the iftab file
[08:50] <sally_> shachaf: yeah but it just gives one grey-ed out choice that says wired network
[08:50] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I would've d/led it, but 1) I don't have a working CD burner, 2) I have dialup  '<
[08:50] <nexus10> soundray: yes
[08:50] <FunnyHat_Work> Sorry guys, i have to work...  I can help you in about 6 hours when I am home
[08:50] <shachaf> rukuartic: But you have to let the person you sell it to give it away.
[08:50] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Ooooooh. burn. Is your modem a software modem or a hardware modem?
[08:50] <C_REATiVE_> who installed 6.06 in oem ? plz msg me
[08:50] <kenni> FunnyLookinHat, where do you get the 8756 driver?  Are you downloading from nvidias site or something?
[08:51] <shachaf> sally_: Right click-> Enable wireless, if it's disabled?
[08:51] <rukuartic> shachaf: You sure about that? I thought it was illegal to put a price on redistributed GPL software
[08:51] <Sub> rukuartic, no itz not.
[08:51] <rekrutacja> iNiku: after restarting my computer with changed network/interfaces nothing happened: i had to start dhclient manually and networkmanager doesn't work
[08:51] <serj> someone with the lates ubuntu 6.06 please paste me a line of /etc/apt/sources.list so i can upgrade from breezy to the current
[08:51] <nexus10> soundray: fom server -- 'ssh laptop' (for example) works fine
[08:51] <serj> someone with the lates ubuntu 6.06 please paste me a line of /etc/apt/sources.list so i can upgrade from breezy to the current
[08:51] <dsas> rukuartic: Nope, you can sell it for as much as you like (go checkout redhat.com)
[08:51] <Simthumb> rukuartic: hardware modem methinks
[08:51] <sally_> shachaf: I only have "enable networking" and it's checked
[08:51] <Simthumb> rukuartic: My computer was custom made by a friend
[08:51] <conn> serj: don't do that, use update-manager
[08:51] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I hardly know anything about it Lol
[08:51] <Sub> serj, you just do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:51] <shachaf> sally_: Is the wireless card working otherwise?
[08:51] <dxdemetriou> crazy_penguin: its eth0 in this file
[08:51] <rukuartic> dsas: Hahaha
[08:51] <serj> conn, which ine
[08:51] <Sub> or "gksudo "update-manager -d"
[08:51] <serj> one
[08:51] <rukuartic> Simthumb: eh... I've never had luck with linux and modems
[08:52] <Simthumb> rukuartic: It took me a whole day once to d/l a 100mb file (PSP trial)
[08:52] <Simthumb> HUH?
[08:52] <sally_> shachaf: yeah it's connected now
[08:52] <Raskall> rukuartic: I am not putting a prize on the os. I will charge about $400 for an initial install and setup of ubuntu. I will also sell SLA's including 5 hours remote maintenance pr. month for $400.
[08:52] <Simthumb> rukuartic: UH-oh
[08:52] <soundray> nexus10: I'm trying to remember... I had a similar problem ages ago... Something to do with /etc/hosts.allow... Have you read the wiki hints on NFS?
[08:52] <conn> serj: what sub said, heh
[08:52] <shachaf> sally_: Hmm.
[08:52] <serj> someone with the lates ubuntu 6.06 please paste me a line of /etc/apt/sources.list so i can upgrade from breezy to the current
[08:52] <Simthumb> rukuartic: B/c I have software to go with my dialup
[08:52] <rukuartic> Simthumb:
[08:52] <shachaf> sally_: Oh, I know.
[08:52] <skippy> hrm.   my DVD image download doesn't match the checksums.   And I'll go through the NFS wiki stuff again. Ta
[08:53] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Ooof. Um... No clue how you'd do that in linux. I know you can do it if you havfe the right hardware, but not sure how to do it =\
[08:53] <skippy> can someone post here their checksum for the i386 Dapper dvd, please?
[08:53] <eugman> !nvidia
[08:53] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:53] <shachaf> sally_: Then restart dbus (/etc/init.d/dbus restart).
[08:53] <shachaf> sally_: It should work.
[08:53] <soundray> nexus10: cheers m8 ;)
[08:53] <kenni> FunnyHat_Work, multiverse repository or something?  (Just failed a search for it).
[08:53] <dxdemetriou> My ethernet is eth0 in iftab, but the Dapper find it as eth1. Can I change this?
[08:53] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Ouch
[08:53] <Raskall> hey... dapper isn't available for any of you guys until approximately *checking remaining download time* 35 minutes.
[08:53] <Raskall> ;)
[08:53] <rukuartic> What is dbus shachaf?
[08:53] <Simthumb> rukuartic: What about that thingamajig that Ubotu talked about?
[08:53] <Simthumb> rukuartic: that lets me run Win progarms on Linux?
[08:54] <eugman> Hey, is there a torrent I can use to help things?
[08:54] <dsas> dxdemetriou: It is possible, I can't remember how to do it.
[08:54] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Wine? Yeah... I know. I've never tried that before.
[08:54] <Booo> how to boot liveCD to install?
[08:54] <rukuartic> eugman: Eh, I think there's something in the channel message
[08:54] <dsas> rukuartic: dbus is a inter process communication process.
[08:54] <Simthumb> rukuartic: ouch
[08:54] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh well, I'll just dive
[08:54] <midna> soundray: i'm in dapper now thanks very much...
[08:54] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Heh, good for you
[08:54] <Simthumb> rukuartic: If it doesn't work I'll boot in Windows and use that
[08:54] <serj> synaptic wont do it yo'all lamers
[08:54] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Is Ubuntu easy to uninstall?
[08:54] <serj> just paste me that damn line
[08:54] <soundray> midna: :)
[08:54] <rukuartic> serj: Language.
[08:54] <sally_> shachaf, yes!  thanks a lot, that worked
[08:54] <rendo> How do you do that 3d moving of the desktop in Dapper?
[08:54] <shachaf> rukuartic: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus
[08:55] <spikeh> X is giving me an error, saying restart GDM and throwing me back to terminal but I can't type any commands
[08:55] <rukuartic> serj: Sourceomatic would be the nice to work with. juse that
[08:55] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh I know - My dad has a USB stick I could prolly borrow to back up my stuff
[08:55] <eugman> Well, yeah rukuartic. But then I'd have to have some common sense to look up and take the initiative. That's never any fun. :)
[08:55] <T-CAN> if i am running breezy 5.10, whats the easiest way to upgrade to dapper?
[08:55] <rukuartic> rendo: thats XGL http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[08:55] <[Surge] > !repos
[08:55] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Only holds about 200 mb but I can store all my **reall** important stuff
[08:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:55] <serj> i'll try soureceomatica
[08:55] <shachaf> sally_: I had the same problem when I tried to enable network-manager, a while ago.
[08:55] <Simthumb> *really
[08:55] <hazart> !xgl
[08:55] <ubotu> from memory, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[08:55] <skippy> can someone post here their checksum for the i386 Dapper dvd, please?
[08:56] <eugman> T-CAN, I think the update manager. It should give you the option to upgrade some time today. It's simple, easy to follow and gui based.
[08:56] <midna> !nvidia
[08:56] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:56] <[Surge] > Where can I find a list of the packages in Dapper Drake?
[08:56] <soundray> skippy: is it not on the download site anymore?
[08:56] <Sub> skippy, when you put the DVD in you can test the disk.
[08:56] <pipp0> hello
[08:56] <spikeh> what does Ctrl + Alt + F2 do?
[08:56] <spikeh> because it starts Xserver
[08:56] <Simthumb> rukuartic: do you know if Wine comes with Ubuntu?
[08:56] <spikeh> when I type startx
[08:56] <Simthumb> rukuartic: or do I have to manually d/l it?
[08:56] <pipp0> who was lookig telly last day ?
[08:56] <aedwards323> !ubuntu-base
[08:56] <ubotu> aedwards323: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:57] <pipp0> there was veronica mars
[08:57] <psycose> hi
[08:57] <rukuartic> Simthumb: I actualy don't know that
[08:57] <FunnyHat_Work> kenni, yes, multiverse
[08:57] <pipp0> lokk this http://channels.lockergnome.com/linux/archives/20050414_ubuntu_meets_veronica_mars.phtml
[08:57] <soundray> spikeh, it switches to a text console. F1-F6 should all do the same (switching to different consoles)
[08:57] <Simthumb> rukuartic: ok :)
[08:57] <FunnyHat_Work> ubotu, tell kenni about sources
[08:57] <dsas> Simthumb: Yes, you have to enable universe in "add/remove programs" then search for it
[08:57] <Simthumb> rukuartic: thanks for all your help. You cleared a lotta stuff up :D
[08:57] <eugman> spikeh, Ctrl + Alt +F2 take you to the secondary terminal I believe.
[08:57] <psycose> well i got a brand new Dapper with Asus K8N (integrated sound device) but i can't get sound any help ?
[08:57] <Simthumb> dsas: universe?
[08:57] <nibu> !repos
[08:57] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:57] <buzzed> flying toasters?
[08:58] <soundray> !tell psycose about sound
[08:58] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Np man
[08:58] <soundray> psycose: ubotu sent you some sound troubleshooting links
[08:58] <psycose> thanks
[08:58] <xiko> "xgl
[08:58] <xiko> !xgl
[08:58] <ubotu> somebody said xgl was "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[08:58] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Come back if you got questions, I only know a little bit. There are geniuses here.
[08:58] <shachaf> I'm going to try to use an older kernel and see if the ATI drivers work.
[08:59] <dsas> Simthumb: the "show unsupported applications" button in add/remove applications
[08:59] <spikeh> soundray: how comes when I do "startx" on the 2nd terminal, the installer script won't work?
[08:59] <soundray> rukuartic: always the modest one ;)
[08:59] <sally_> everytime dapper boots on my laptop it checks my windows partition which takes forever, how do I stop that?
[08:59] <spikeh> soundray: because the 1st terminal goes weird and won't accept any commands
[08:59] <Simthumb> rukuartic: sure will :d
[08:59] <rukuartic> soundray: no really. half my solutions are "Have you tried rebooting?" i'm still in the windows era.
[08:59] <soundray> spikeh: what installer script?
[08:59] <Simthumb> rukuartic: *:D
[08:59] <spikeh> soundray the dapper installer
[08:59] <Simthumb> dsas: oh after I install Ubuntu?
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