[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[07:08] <geser> good morning dholbach
[07:08] <dholbach> hi geser
[09:29] <Laney> lfaraone: Hey, sugar has just come to my attention. Is that stuff still active? Do you still need the packageset?
[16:34] <psusi> I realized I made an error a few commits back.  With git, I would either commit a fix, then rebase -i to squash it back into the original commit, or format-patch the last few commits out to patch files and reset them, ammend the errored commit, then apply the patches.  How can I do this with bzr?
[21:21] <trinichica> (  /j #ubuntu-meeting
[21:41] <AmberJ_> Hello
[21:42] <AmberJ_> Is there some rule when should we put files in /usr/lib/ and /usr/lib/UPSTREAM_NAME/ ?
[21:44] <jtaylor> if its a public library and usable by external applications usr/lib/
[21:44] <jtaylor> if not usr/lib/upstream
[21:45] <AmberJ_> Right. Thanks :)


[07:14] <Tm_T> moin
[07:16] <coolbhavi> morning Tm_T
[16:47] <kyme> :)
[18:38] <costales> Hi czajkowski. I can't access to the #ubuntu-lococouncil channel yet. Could you review the user please? :) Thanks in advance!
[18:40] <costales> Maybe I have to talk with itnet7 ? :)
[18:45] <czajkowski> costales: invited, but the others can do it also
[18:47] <costales> Perfect! I can access now! :D Thanks czajkowski
[18:49] <costales> Uhm, I can't access now
[18:50] <costales> 20:48 -!- Cannot join to channel #ubuntu-lococouncil (You must be invited)
[18:50] <costales> Is the invitation just for the current IRC session? :O
[18:51] <czajkowski> itnet7: if you can help that wuld be great
[20:15] <itnet7> costales: sorry
[20:15] <itnet7> let me look into it


[03:47] <jthan> PennBot: Oh how I miss thee
[03:47] <jthan> RIP, old friend.
[03:47] <jthan> </3
[09:22] <rmg51> Morning
[12:16] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else


[06:54] <aedes> what is considered development discussion?
[08:24] <kakkoi> how do i install LAMP on ubuntu 6.10 desktop edition?
[08:24] <kakkoi> thank you in advance
[07:35] <AMSmith42> It seems that becuase Ubuntu Server specifies apt-gets from port 80, my SonicWALL thinks it is trying to access a proxy and disconnects it.
[07:35] <AMSmith42> Kind of a hassle.
[07:58] <mralphabet> oO
[07:58] <AMSmith42> hehehe
[07:58] <mralphabet> I think that's a poor logic design on the sonicwall heh
[07:58] <AMSmith42> Perhaps, but it is there, non-the-less.
[07:59] <mralphabet> I mean, it's port 80 traffic . . . the firewall either needs to pass it or use the built in / network proxy server which should get the file anyway
[07:59] <mralphabet> still, interesting
[07:59] <AMSmith42> I can switch the proxy-filter on and off, but I don't want to leave it off because I use it for a reason.
[07:59] <mralphabet> sure
[08:01] <AMSmith42> I use Ubuntu desktops and apt-get doesn't have any trouble.
[08:01] <AMSmith42> It is only when Ubuntu server specifies x.x.x.x 80 that I get disconnected.
[08:02] <AMSmith42> Well, the apt-get in server, anyway.
[08:02] <mralphabet> oh, that's interesting
[08:02] <AMSmith42> I had other words for it until I figured out what was going on.
[08:02] <AMSmith42> :P
[08:03] <mralphabet> because it specifies the port it may make a difference
[08:03] <AMSmith42> Right.
[08:03] <AMSmith42> It triggers the SonicWALL's filter.
[08:03] <mralphabet> as opposed to it just being normal traffic
[08:03] <mralphabet> right
[08:03] <mralphabet> that's certainly an odd one to track down
[08:04] <AMSmith42> Yes, I couldn't think of where I could change that either.
[08:04] <mralphabet> nor can i
[08:28] <Linuturk> I'm thinking of upgrading my Dapper server to Edgy. I am currently running a LAMP install, and a cacti install. what are the caveates of dist upgrading a server?
[08:28] <Linuturk> i know this isn't a support channel, but Ubuntu is waaay to busy for a server question.
[08:29] <AMSmith42> I'm pretty lost too, or I'd help you out.
[08:29] <Linuturk> what is your issue AMSmith42? maybe I can help
[08:31] <AMSmith42> I was just discussing earlier how Ubuntu server sometimes specifies port 80 when it does an apt-get (that is, some packages come from x.x.x.x 80) and that triggers my SonicWALL's proxy filter so I get disconnected after 90% installation.
[08:31] <AMSmith42> I can turn the proxy filter off, but that isn't ideal.
[08:31] <Linuturk> isn't there a way to make an exception on your proxy
[08:32] <Linuturk> some sort of rule table
[08:32] <Linuturk> ?
[08:32] <AMSmith42> I don't think that I can specify an IP and a *port* for the firewall to disregard.
[08:32] <AMSmith42> Only an IP. I have to check into it further.
[08:33] <Linuturk> I don't think I've heard of a firewall WITHOUT port forwarding by ip
[08:34] <AMSmith42> Port forwarding does that? I thought I'd have to set up a rule in the filter.
[08:34] <Linuturk> well, I'm slightly confused
[08:34] <Linuturk> are we talking a firewall
[08:35] <Linuturk> or a proxy server
[08:35] <Linuturk> or, a combo of the two?
[08:35] <Linuturk> if it is a combo, see the device's manual before believing anything I say
[08:35] <Linuturk> that is specialized stuff
[08:35] <AMSmith42> The SonicWALL is a firewall and filter. It has a setting to disallow access to proxy servers.
[08:36] <AMSmith42> When apt-get tries to get a package and specifies port 80 the SonicWALL thinks that the server is trying to access a proxy.
[08:37] <Linuturk> what does the proxy server do with normal port 80 traffic?
[08:37] <Linuturk> web browsing?
[08:37] <Linuturk> etc?
[08:37] <Linuturk> my experience with a Squid is the proxy server downloads the packages first, then serves them up to the client
[08:37] <Linuturk> it is a long delay
[08:37] <Linuturk> but once it is down
[08:38] <Linuturk> it is almost instantly available to any other machine on the network
[08:38] <AMSmith42> Web traffic from a browser is allowed.
[08:38] <AMSmith42> The sonicwall doesn't bother apt-get if it doesn't put 80 in the url.
[08:39] <AMSmith42> Only when apt-get uses <remote server> 80 does the sonicwall get triggered.
[08:39] <AMSmith42> I'm not using a local proxy server.
[08:40] <AMSmith42> The SonicWALL is set up to block access to internet proxies so that students can't get around the sonicwall filter.
[08:40] <AMSmith42> content filter, that is.
[08:42] <AMSmith42> Sweet...shopping


[02:34] <jeffrash> Jono Bacon talked about you today and your new rule.
[02:35] <jeffrash> akgraner, Jono Bacon talked about you today and your new rule.  He just talked about the new leadership.
[02:36] <jeffrash> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/17977168
[02:36] <akgraner> yep I saw part of it  - but wasn't able to stay for the whole broadcast
[02:36] <akgraner> I was posting links for the first 20 minutes our so :-)
[02:37] <jeffrash> I missed it, but am watching it now
[02:37] <akgraner> I really like his Wednesday Q&A's :-)
[02:37] <akgraner> I need to watch the rest of it...
[02:37]  * akgraner watches now
[02:37] <jeffrash> I haven't been watching regularly
[02:38] <akgraner> some questions are always the same :-)
[02:38] <akgraner> but jono's pretty cool about answering them
[02:39] <jeffrash> I liked how he started with don't ask about issues with Wireless
[02:39] <jeffrash> That's the only issue I have with Ubuntu
[02:43] <jeffrash> Bashnee freezes if you are not online
[02:44] <jeffrash> That's a new issue with 11.10 that I just discovered
[02:44] <jeffrash> its a known issue and the work around is to disable the UbuntuOneMusicStore addon
[02:51] <akgraner> Cool - I don't use Banshee much...
[02:51] <akgraner> I suppose I should but I don't use my computer for music
[02:51] <akgraner> :-/
[02:51] <jeffrash> It the default in 11.10
[02:51] <akgraner> yep I know  - I just don't use it...
[02:52] <akgraner> don't really have a reason to other than to test it and make sure it works etc
[02:52] <jeffrash> right
[02:53] <akgraner> I have to take screen shots and write about it  - and my kids and hubby use the heck out of it
[02:55] <jeffrash> Have you done anything on Pithos?  The Pandora player for Ubuntu?
[02:55] <akgraner> nope :-(
[02:56] <akgraner> I need to learn more about the music players and stuff...
[02:56] <jeffrash> I like it
[02:56] <akgraner> I'll check it out
[02:57] <jeffrash> I don't think it completely integrate with Pandora.
[02:58] <jeffrash> It gets the play lists and plays the music great
[02:58] <jeffrash> but the like options are all integrated into last.fm, not Pandora.
[02:59] <jeffrash> One of the big points of Pandora is that it learns what you like by using the thumbs up/down options
[03:00] <jeffrash> got to go, chat with you later
[10:52] <akgraner> Good morning :-)
[13:14] <billf> morning


[00:01] <LjL> ...
[00:01] <ompaul> ohh come on
[00:01] <LjL> you just couldn't have typed that in 2 seconds
[00:01] <ompaul> I was sitting there waiting
[00:01] <ompaul> it was obvious from the off
[00:01] <LjL> you didn't know he'd change nicknames
[00:01] <ompaul> no
[00:02] <ompaul> but the message was "apt"
[00:02] <ompaul> he was taking the proverbial from the off
[00:02]  * LjL stops suspecting ompaul tricked in into the nickname change :P
[00:02] <ompaul> hehe
[00:03] <ompaul> LjL, well the nick change was just going "BAN ME"
[00:03] <ompaul> I was waiting on any reason
[00:04] <ompaul> and that was one - albeit a tad weak
[00:04] <ompaul> but anyone calling themselves troll does not want help :)
[00:04] <ompaul> now if they called themselves the name of a fictional under the bridge creature
[00:05] <ompaul> LjL, did you look at inx?
[00:06] <LjL> ah no not yet
[00:07] <LjL> i'm busy setting up a computer for my mom
[00:07] <LjL> (where "setting up" means removing stuff from the ntfs partition to make space for ubuntu)
[00:09] <ompaul> hehe
[00:09] <ompaul> np
[00:09] <ompaul> I'm off for the night
[00:09] <ompaul> see ye tomorrow
[02:39] <ezzieyguywuf> i've lost my irc password and cannot recover it using "/msg nickserv sendpass <my nick>" b/c it says I am not authorized. Can someone help me?
[02:45] <ezzieyguywuf> any ops in here?!
[02:46] <nalioth> ezzieyguywuf: we can't help you with network issues
[02:46] <ezzieyguywuf> who should i ask for help then?
[02:46] <nalioth> but you should probably check your email anyway
[02:46] <nalioth> #freenode handles network issues
[02:48] <ezzieyguywuf> hehe i just checked it and i got help
[02:48] <ezzieyguywuf> thanks to whoever sent it
[03:20] <nalioth> ezzieyguywuf: #freenode is the place for network help
[03:21] <ezzieyguywuf> ok thanks
[03:24] <Pici> I'm getting some complaints about the poltical discussions in -offtopic.  I'm going to try to keep an eye on it.
[04:40] <genii> There is a guy for a long time now in #ubuntu that is just likely too thick to understand how to /join #someroomname          Any way to just forcibly boot him there and get him out of our hair?
[04:40] <genii> Sorry, #kubuntu
[04:41] <nalioth> genii: there you go
[04:41] <nalioth> genii: #asterisk is +r, so nobody can join it unless they're identified to services
[04:42] <genii> Ah, so he needs to register?
[04:42] <nalioth> genii: or identify, one or the other
[07:10] <Mez> it's wednesday right?
[07:15] <Flannel> For the majority of the world, yes.
[07:15] <Flannel> Mez: there's a new xkcd that came out a few hours ago, so yes.
[07:16] <Mez> thats why I was asking
[07:24] <elky_work> he seriously needs to make posters of the depth and height comics
[08:06] <jussi01> Morning Peoples
[08:06] <Flannel> Howdy jussi01
[08:07] <jussi01> heya Flannel :D
[08:45] <Myrtti> uff. wwwwweird. *10* hours, I repeat, *TEN* HOURS of sleep.
[08:45] <Myrtti> I feel like a new person
[08:58] <jussi01> good :)
[09:17] <ikonia> morning
[09:22] <jussi01> and I have no powahs in there...
[09:22] <ikonia> got it
[09:22] <jussi01> good.
[12:33] <Pici> icesword: How can.. nevermind
[12:34] <ikonia> ?
[12:34]  * Pici shrugs
[12:37] <elkbuntu> tard central?
[12:37] <jussi01> ikonia: you need to fix your script.
[12:37] <ikonia> got it
[12:37] <ikonia> thanks jussi01
[12:37] <ikonia> well spotted
[12:38] <jussi01> :)
[12:38] <Pici> My logs say you deopped yourself after the ban.
[12:38] <ikonia> yes, but it doesn't
[12:38] <ikonia> same way my logs showed the banforward failing the other day
[12:38] <Pici> weird.
[12:38] <ikonia> but it didn't fail, it worked
[12:38] <ikonia> need to sit down and go through it
[12:39] <jussi01> ikonia: also, you are only banning, not removing also
[12:39] <Pici> ikonia: What client are you using?
[12:40] <ikonia> jussi01 didn't want to remove him, he was quite so I wanted to talk to him as I've sen that IP under a differnt nick earlier today
[12:40] <ikonia> Pici irssi
[12:40] <ikonia> jussi01: that one was intentional
[12:40] <Pici> hm.
[12:40] <LjL> ikonia: i know it's annoying but it just has to happen at some point :P
[12:41] <ikonia> LjL guess I should have removed him too, I thought if I kicked him he'd sign off again  (he did anyway)
[12:42] <LjL> ikonia: was talking about being in ! ops
[12:42] <LjL> you are now
[12:42] <ikonia> ahhh
[12:42] <ikonia> is ther a way to do "/nofity" with ip addresses rather than nick
[12:42] <ikonia> almost like "host_notify"
[12:43] <Pici> ikonia: no, but you can do /who hostname  and possibly get responses, but it depends on the umode of the person.
[12:43] <ikonia> Pici yes, but thats real time only
[12:43] <ikonia> no big deal
[12:43]  * Pici shrugs
[12:55] <Pici> ikonia: perhaps he was just responding to the ops call?
[12:55] <ikonia> possibly
[12:56] <ikonia> but it's another non-isp ip address
[12:59] <Pici> Is my client broken or has there been a severe lack of activity in #ubuntu?
[13:00] <ikonia> Pici nope, nothing going on
[13:01] <ikonia> apart from callan_ flloding me in pm with can I know you
[13:06] <jussi01> ikonia: I hate those ones... have you said no yet?
[13:06] <ikonia> he logged off after about 30 lines
[13:08] <LjL> Pici: actually it's weird lately, sometimes there is as much activity as there can be, and there's always a respectable 1300-1400 users... but sometimes there's this weird lack of activity that just didn't happen some months ago, unless it's just me
[13:08] <ikonia> odd with it coming up to release
[13:08] <ikonia> normally "hi is 8.10 stable eyet" is every 20 seconds
[13:21] <ikonia> all quiet then 3 at once
[13:24] <LjL> plus fffff, but i muted that one in time
[13:24] <LjL> (he was just clueless)
[13:24] <ikonia> that was a little manic
[13:25] <LjL> jrib: you're making people use *sabayon* now? shame on you
[14:34] <Pici> Whoops, removed the wrong person.
[15:03] <ikonia> will there be an ubuntu-release-part again ?
[15:03] <ikonia> party even
[15:03] <Pici> Probably
[15:04] <jussi01> Id say so...
[15:04] <Myrtti> yes
[15:04] <Myrtti> I already have my alias ready
[15:04] <ikonia> ugh
[15:04] <ikonia> more whooping and randomness
[15:05] <Pici> !party ~= s/Hardy/Intrepid/
[15:05] <LjL> Pici: fail
[15:06] <LjL> !party
[15:06] <Pici> Hm?
[15:06] <LjL> uh, no, not fail...
 Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.   I want a cat
[15:18] <Myrtti> cats are good for cuddles
[15:18] <Pici> I kind of want one.
[15:18] <Pici> I have no pets currently.
[15:19] <Myrtti> ikonia: your cat is so cuddly
[15:20] <LjL> Pici: is that a Canon?
[15:20] <Pici> LjL: Yes. Digital Rebel (the first one)
[15:21] <Pici> EOS300D
[15:21] <LjL> it looked like a canon. couldn't say for sure whether it was a DSLR, but the lack of artifacts strongly made me suspect so
[15:21] <Pici> LjL: The 'image info' link has the exif information.
[15:23] <LjL> Pici: wait that was taken with the flash?
[15:24] <LjL> it's contrasty for sure, but i would have thought natural light
[15:24] <Pici> LjL: It was in the evening, and I used the on-camera flash iirc.
[15:29] <Myrtti> ikonia: she(?) is so beautiful
[15:30] <ikonia> Myrtti thank you, she is
[15:30] <jrib> !didn't work is <alias> doesn't work
[15:41] <Dave2> awww
[15:41] <LjL> ¡could have not been working is <alias> doesn't work
[15:42] <jrib> heh
[15:43] <ikonia> jrib: +o in #u
[15:44] <LjL> why exactly did they make "install" and "live" two separate options on the cd?
[15:44] <ikonia> @btlogin
[15:44] <ikonia> my client is borked
[15:44] <ikonia> @login
[15:45] <ikonia> @btlogin
[15:45] <LjL> ikonia: try pm?
[15:45] <ikonia> LjL: not just that, it's borked in general I may have to restart it
[15:46] <ikonia> right re-starting my client
[15:46] <ikonia> it's borked
[15:46] <ikonia> I'm sure it's got a memory leak or something
[15:46] <LjL> bah, one step forward, two steps back. an "install" icon on an otherwise "live" desktop *is* the right way to make a system installer, just as it was on the amiga and mac
[15:47] <LjL> instead, hey, let's make a perfectly graphical installer *but* not have it work on a live desktop, so it can be way slower than a text-mode installer yet give you real advantages
[15:51] <stdin> LjL: the install option just starts the installer in a basic X session IIRC
[15:52] <LjL> stdin: yeah, like i said. seems pretty gratuitous. i hope at least it's still available as an icon on the "live" session (yet that doesn't help much since there isn't any clue about that in the boot menu)
[15:52] <stdin> the install icon is still on the desktop, yeah
[15:53] <LjL> why didn't i burn the minimal cd anyway, reading cds is such a pain
[15:53] <stdin> though, I had no clue what the difference was between them until was installing on a friends PC and thought "What does that do?"
[15:53] <ikonia> jrib: what was the spanish/brazil guy saying ?
[15:54] <LjL> just i'm from brazil, anyone from brazil, anyone speak portuguese, blah blah
[15:54] <jrib> ikonia: "anyone there?"   His second comment was brazilian slang I didn't get.  I had him in a pm and told him how to join the proper channel
[15:55] <Pici> qtal?
[15:55]  * LjL larts everyone who can't recognize languages, anyway
[15:56] <LjL> Pici: that's spanish, too
[15:56] <Pici> LjL: /me shrugs
[15:56] <jrib> "valeu galera abraco"
[15:56] <jrib> abraco is hug
[15:56] <jrib> valeu is "was worth it"
[15:56] <ikonia> jrib: ahh
[15:56] <Pici> If it looks like spanish, but has ç , its portuguese.  That and whois/dns is what I use.
[15:57] <jrib> ola = pt, hola = es
[15:57] <LjL> Pici, "alguem" is portuguese, "alguien" is spanish. "ola" is portuguese, "hola" spanish
[15:58] <Pici> LjL: Ah. /me notes
[15:58] <LjL> and in case they ask if anyone speaks their language, falar is portuguese, hablar is spanish
[15:59] <LjL> the "ola" isn't exceedinly reliable though since spaniards aren't particularly fond of actually typing the letter H anyway
[16:17] <ikonia> wgatever happened to kartakane (spelling) ?
[16:17] <ikonia> the guy who was doing the ubuntu hawai stuff
[16:17] <Pici> ikonia: kahrytan
[16:17] <ikonia> wasn't he pushing some stuff at the council
[16:17] <ikonia> Pici: yes that him
[16:17] <ikonia> all that stuff's going quiet
[16:18] <ikonia> gone
[16:18] <jussi01> yeah, he got klined
[16:19] <ikonia> oh, well I guess that sorts that
[16:19] <ikonia> and explains why it all went quiet
[16:19] <jussi01> yeps
[16:19] <Pici> heh, nice name "HenryHeron"
[16:19] <ikonia> Pici: I was chuckling at that
[16:21] <Pici> hehe
[16:21]  * ikonia dies
[16:23]  * jussi01 giggles at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7654254.stm
[16:25] <Pici> weird.
[16:26] <Myrtti> jussi01: that's so ... romantic and nice.
[16:26]  * Myrtti larts jussi01
[16:26] <jussi01> oi!!
[16:26] <Daviey> jussi01: sadly, they live rather close to me :(
[16:27] <ikonia> ha ha !
[16:27] <jussi01> Daviey: eh-heh!! :P
[16:27] <Daviey> tis alright, i'm moving
[16:27] <jussi01> but still, I guess its good they cleaned up some...
[16:27] <ikonia> Daviey: there are nutters everywhere
[16:28] <Daviey> yeah, i did my bit in helping there challenge by littering.
[16:28] <Daviey> their*
[16:28] <Myrtti> :-(
[16:28] <jussi01> yeah, especially $where-ikonia-lives :P
[16:28] <ikonia> jussi01: it's true
[16:28] <Myrtti> you make me depressed
[16:28] <Daviey> aww poor Myrtti
[16:29] <ikonia> hendra is starting to become randomly annoying
[16:31] <jussi01> Im hungry: do I a) go downstairs and fix myself something to eat?  :P
[16:32] <ikonia> sorry
[16:32] <ikonia> karam is worth it
[17:01] <jussi01> well decided to call the wife, she said she wont be home for ages, so Im eating :D
[17:02] <ikonia> lucky
[17:09] <Myrtti> !prayer
[17:11] <Myrtti> my brain crashed
[17:11] <Pici> Oh no!
[17:13] <jussi01> ikonia: you want to see what I fixed myself? nom nom :D http://lifematta.com/jussi01/event/14144/
[17:14] <Myrtti> hm.
[17:14] <Myrtti> slamFIST and that ubuntu feller at -ot at the same time...
[17:14] <Myrtti> kind of disturbing.
[17:15] <Myrtti> jussi01: dinner at your place?
[17:16] <jussi01> Myrtti: doubt you can make it in time...
[17:19] <jussi01> and here is my new home office setup :D
[17:19] <jussi01> http://lifematta.com/jussi01/event/14146/
[17:43] <Myrtti> I'm getting paranoid about that slamfist feller
[17:44] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[17:55] <_Zeus_> check out this factoid
[17:55] <_Zeus_> !nice
[17:55] <_Zeus_> i mean, what the?
[17:56] <Myrtti> !-nice
[17:56] <Myrtti> whutthe
[17:56] <_Zeus_> yeah, i know
[17:56] <Myrtti> suggestions?
[17:56] <_Zeus_> well, i guess it could be either "be nice" or something about nicing a process
[17:59] <_Zeus_> so, which one?
[17:59] <Myrtti> !unalias nice
[17:59] <Myrtti> !forget nice
[17:59] <_Zeus_> is that cause you have op powers?
[18:00] <Myrtti> let's start that
[18:00] <Myrtti> let's start with that
[18:00] <_Zeus_> ok, so... which one should !nice refer to?
[18:00] <Myrtti> yes and no
[18:00] <jussi01> _Zeus_: no, its cause I like her :P (and cause she is on the IRC team)
[18:00]  * Myrtti huggles jussi01
[18:01]  * _Zeus_ slowly walks away...
[18:01] <_Zeus_> :P
[18:02] <jussi01> Myrtti: you should unforget nice if you are planning to change it...
[18:03] <Myrtti> jussi01: yes, but for now it is forgotten
[18:03] <Myrtti> since it makes no sense
[18:03] <_Zeus_> !nice
[18:03] <_Zeus_> cool.  i have no idea how that one got in there :P
[18:04] <Myrtti> if there really is a suggestion for a better version, then it can be redone
[18:04] <_Zeus_> well, the question is what !nice should refer to
[18:04] <jussi01> how about !nice is <alias>botabuse
[18:04] <Myrtti> hm, cheese.
[18:04] <jussi01> :D
[18:05] <_Zeus_> lol
[18:06] <jussi01> Myrtti: as  you saw, I had some brie with my dinner :D
[18:07] <Myrtti> shut up
[18:09] <jussi01> :D
[18:10] <Myrtti> though.
[18:10] <Myrtti> I had my tomato-mozzarella-basil salad as an appetizer and wrapped my dinner with some Karjalanpaisti
[18:11] <_Zeus_> some WHAT?
[18:11] <Myrtti> *bwurp*
[18:11] <_Zeus_> Karjalanpaisti is ?
[18:11] <_Zeus_> sounds middle eastern
[18:11] <Myrtti> kind of pot roast
[18:11] <_Zeus_> huh
[18:11] <Myrtti> Finnish/Carelian/partly Russian
[18:11] <_Zeus_> huh
[18:12] <Myrtti> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelian_hot_pot
[18:12] <_Zeus_> sounds good
[18:12] <_Zeus_> :)
[18:12] <Myrtti> nomnom.
[18:28] <Myrtti> _Zeus_: any suggestion would be welcome
[18:29] <_Zeus_> ok, how about this
[18:33] <_Zeus_> 'Nice' is a property of a process that determines how willing it is to give CPU time to other processes.  A higher value makes it more likely to give away time.  A negative value makes it less likely.  Values are from -19 to 19, with 0 being the default.  For more information, type 'man nice' at a terminal.
[18:33] <_Zeus_> i think it might have more info than needed, not sure
[18:33] <Myrtti> !unforget nice
[18:34] <Myrtti> !no nice is <reply> 'Nice' is a property of a process that determines how willing it is to give CPU time to other processes.  A higher value makes it more likely to give away time.  A negative value makes it less likely. Values are from -19 to 19, with 0 being the default.  For more information, type 'man nice' at a terminal.
[18:34] <Myrtti> !nice
[18:34] <_Zeus_> cool
[18:34] <_Zeus_> !top
[18:34] <jussi01> 'Nice' work... :P
[18:34] <_Zeus_> no one did my top factiod yet
[18:34] <_Zeus_> LO
[18:34] <_Zeus_> *:P
[18:34] <jussi01> !scope | _Zeus_
[18:34] <_Zeus_> :P anyway, cya l8r.  leave i shall
[18:39] <Pici> jrib: For your file: <?AJP> Hi!  Is the ubuntu server the right thing for this?"
[20:15] <Myrtti> NOOOO IT'S NOT A WEB SERVER!!!!!!1111
[20:15] <Myrtti> DOH.
[20:23] <Pici> I need break from #ubuntu...
[20:24] <jussi01> I love it when people talk to ubottu, its so funny.
[20:25] <jussi01> Myrtti: I think we need a !gender factoid detailing that ubottu is indeed female
[20:25] <jussi01> or slot it into !bot or something :D
[20:26] <Myrtti> make the bot factoid info page pink.
[20:26] <Pici> hah
[20:26] <Myrtti> that should do it.
[20:26] <Myrtti> no need to explain it any further
[20:26] <Pici> Change !bot out of the first person and use 'she' and 'her' ?
[20:26] <PriceChild> !yourself
[20:26] <Myrtti> just point them there if anyone asks.
[20:26] <Myrtti> "see, she likes pink..."
[20:26] <jussi01> hehe
[20:27] <PriceChild> I can't imagine the pain if we did that.
[20:27] <jussi01> Myrtti: what is it about you and pink....
[20:28] <Pici> Whats wrong with pink?
[20:28] <Myrtti> well make it purple with butterflies then
[20:28] <Myrtti> or yellow with bumblebees
[20:28] <jussi01> nothing, just Myrtti has an intense fascination with the colour
[20:28] <Tm_T> pink && purple, new Kubuntu theme!
[20:29] <PriceChild> sounds more like an ubuntuforums theme
[20:29]  * Tm_T hugggles Myrtti
[20:29] <PriceChild> missing lime green though
[20:29] <jussi01> oh bleh!
[20:29] <Pici> I made a pink/purple phpbb (or was it vbulliten) theme once.
[20:29] <Tm_T> jussi01: =)
[20:29] <jussi01> Tm_T: go start supporting the freemantle dockers...
[20:30] <Myrtti> fine, I'll shut up about pink.
[20:30] <Tm_T> Myrtti: no you don't
[20:30] <Tm_T> jussi01: naah, no need to
[20:30] <jussi01> where is Gary - we need him to chime in on this discussion
[20:30] <jussi01> :D
[20:30] <Tm_T> Gary Cooper?
[20:30] <jussi01> !gary
[20:30] <Myrtti> GazzaK
[20:31] <Tm_T> Myrtti: I know, it was a joke
[20:31] <jussi01> hehe, what happened to gary's old factoid...
[20:31] <Myrtti> hehe
[20:31]  * jussi01 considers adding a !myrtti factoid :P
[20:31] <jussi01> !myrtti
[20:31] <Myrtti> I don't need one
[20:31] <Seeker`> !jussi
[20:31] <Seeker`> !jussi01
[20:32] <PriceChild> I would, but I don't know the colour codes for pink.
[20:32] <Tm_T> 2232.06 < Amarok> * Tm_T = The last of the last of the cutie pies  [added by: ~JessicaX^]
[20:32] <Myrtti> dholbach doesn't need one, why should I?
[20:32] <Myrtti> does jono have a factoid?
[20:32] <Myrtti> I don't need a factoid.
[20:32] <jussi01> !jono
[20:32] <Myrtti> see?
[20:32] <Myrtti> I don't need a factoid
[20:32] <Myrtti> move along
[20:32] <jussi01> so... they are boring
[20:32] <jussi01> !scope
[20:32] <Myrtti> this is not the factoid you are looking for
[20:32] <jussi01> just Myrtti
[20:33] <Tm_T> erp
[20:33] <Myrtti> move along
[20:33] <jussi01> Myrtti: is embbarrassed :P
[20:33] <Myrtti> besides, jono isn't boring
[20:33] <Myrtti> think of cheesecake.jpeg
[20:33] <Myrtti> mmmmmmmmmmm cheesecake
[20:33] <Myrtti> *drool*
[20:33]  * Tm_T Krabs Myrtti to save place
[20:34] <jussi01> !pie
[20:34] <Myrtti> !cake
[20:34] <Myrtti> !cake-#ubuntu-offtopic
[20:34] <Myrtti> !pie-#ubuntu-offtopic
[20:34] <Tm_T> !coffee
[20:35] <jussi01> ok, maybe we should now quit abusing the bot...
[21:07] <Myrtti> ehm.
[21:07] <ompaul> !java
[21:07] <Myrtti> since when has xubuntu *not* been officially supported? or have I missed something out?
[21:09] <Seeker`> Myrtti: ?
[21:11] <LjL> Myrtti: i thought it was demoted to universe
[21:11] <Myrtti> ah, ok
[21:11] <LjL> !info xubuntu-desktop


[20:58] <technocf> Well, I don't really mind upgrading when the time comes.  The question really is whether or not I'll have issues with instability, well, I guess the software wouldn't be released if it were buggy.
[20:59] <Seven_Six_Two> there's always bugs. in everything. but LTS is about keeping everything stable.
[20:59] <elodinn> technocf: they don't always know about bugs until release
[20:59] <elodinn> I had some problems with non-LTS in terms of stability, but it was long (years) ago
[21:00] <technocf> Okay, well, thanks for the advice.  Have a good morning / afternoon / night :)
[21:00] <ioria> AnonyFox,   sudo mount  -t vfat  -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sdb1 ~/mountpoint_2
[21:02] <plujon> Is there particular hardware on which Ubuntu is practically guaranteed to work on, say, for the next 5 years?  I would like to avoid problems such as being unable to login after applying a recent update"
[21:07] <Seveas> plujon: nothing is guaranteed in life.
[21:07] <Seven_Six_Two> plujon, stay away from nvidia drivers. maybe go with intel integrated
[21:07] <Seveas> technocf: LTS is 5 years
[21:07] <Seveas> though there's a new one ever 2
[21:08] <Seven_Six_Two> being unable to login after an update? Has that ever happened?
[21:08] <Seveas> plujon: I've been using Ubuntu on dell latitude laptops since 2006 with very few issues I didn't cause myself.
[21:08] <Seven_Six_Two> maybe X doesn't start, or I get a low res mode, but I've never not been able to login
[21:08] <Seveas> currently on an e7250
[21:08] <plujon> X doesn't start == unable to login for somebody such as my mom
[21:09] <Seven_Six_Two> there is no fail proof version of anything then
[21:09] <plujon> Her computer has nvidia hardware.
[21:09] <Seveas> mine has a dell optiplex, and I do the updates for her :)
[21:10] <Seven_Six_Two> they provide a binary blob, so even if someone wanted to, they couldn't guarantee it works
[21:10] <plujon> I don't well understand the driver scene on linux, especially with respect to nvidia.
[21:10] <kk4ewt> nvidia is better than AMD
[21:10] <Seven_Six_Two> but then again, nobody can guarantee that windows works. but I find linux more fixable, at the expense of a learning curve.
[21:10] <plujon> What are the most stable drivers for somebody using GeForce 6150SE nForce 430, and how does one ensure they are installed?
[21:11] <Seven_Six_Two> plujon, the driver manager will suggest the best one
[21:11] <kk4ewt> those # dont make sense
[21:11] <plujon> Seven_Six_Two: The driver manager?  Does that require X to be working?
[21:11] <dave_s> I ran sudo apt-get install upstart, created the file /etc/init/logianalytics.conf with the contents (http://pastebin.com/7xL7qyLg) (used the directions at http://blog.terminal.com/getting-started-with-upstart/), created a symlink at /etc/init.d/logianalytics and rebooted the server and now I get the error "Failed to start logianalytics.service: Unit logianalytics.service not found." when running sudo service logianalytics start
[21:12] <Seven_Six_Two> nvidia provides drivers without source code, so it's a black box.
[21:12] <shazzr> exit
[21:12] <Seven_Six_Two> plujon, probably not. Most things don't require a gui. there should be one, even without nvidia binary driver
[21:13] <Seven_Six_Two> shazzr, /part
[21:13] <kk4ewt> plujon,  lspci VGA|
[21:13] <shazzr> Seven_Six_Two: #typo
[21:13] <kk4ewt> plujon,  lspci VGA
[21:13] <nacc> dave_s: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[21:13] <Ntemis> hi
[21:13] <Ntemis> need some help coming from 14.04 and my system is a mess
[21:13] <dave_s> nacc: 1604
[21:14] <Ntemis> i dont want to re install just to fix sources
[21:14] <nacc> dave_s: why are you messing with upstart?
[21:14] <dave_s> nacc: 16.04**
[21:14] <Bashing-om> plujon: That card wilk soon be out of support : http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases . 304 version driver per : http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html .
[21:14] <Bashing-om> will/wilk*
[21:14] <Ntemis> sudo apt-get install g++-multilib ends up E: Package 'g++-multilib' has no installation candidate
[21:14] <Ntemis> any help clear up my source.list
[21:14] <nacc> !Info g++-multilib trusty
[21:15] <dave_s> nacc: Because our amazing Vendor LogiAnalytics who charged us an arm and a leg for this software forgot to mention that they have ZERO docs for installing on Linux because "too many distros" and all they can do is keep linking StackOverflow articles.
[21:15] <Ntemis> am on xenial
[21:15] <nacc> !info g++-multilib xenial
[21:15] <nacc> Ntemis: how did you upgrade?
[21:15] <Ntemis> dist-something
[21:16] <nacc> dave_s: i'm not sure that installing upstart makes it the init-system on its own; by default it's systemd in 16.04
[21:16] <nacc> Ntemis: the recommended way is to use `do-release-upgrade`; i'm guessing your sources are a hodgepodge now
[21:16] <Ntemis> ah yes
 DanC: set prompt to normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[21:16] <DanC> thanks for the clue!
[21:16] <Ntemis> that one
[21:16] <Seveas> Ntemis: the proper upgrade procedure cleans your sources.list for you. But if you've added too many things manually, you probably also have a package mess to clean up first.
[21:16] <Ntemis> ok lets get started then
[21:17] <Ntemis> cant i just replace source.list with a vanilla one?
[21:17] <zark_> there is no root account with ubuntu ?
[21:17] <Seveas> Ntemis: depends on how far along you got in the upgrade.
[21:17] <Seveas> !root | zark_
[21:17] <Ntemis> all way to the end
[21:17] <zark_> thanks Seveas
[21:17] <Ntemis> am on xenial now
[21:18] <Seveas> Ntemis: then you wouldn't have a mess :)
[21:18] <Ntemis> but alas i do
[21:18] <nacc> Ntemis: if you were "on xenial" now, you wouldn't have gotten that error :)
[21:18] <Ntemis> but i am
[21:18] <Seveas> Ntemis: g+-multilib doesn't exist in xenial, so whatever is throwing that error you has an underlying issue.
[21:18] <dave_s> nacc: I'm at a loss then because they have no docs on how to run these two scripts as a service.
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> Ntemis  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue
[21:18] <Ntemis> Linux Athlon-M5A78L 4.4.0-45-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 19 14:12:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:19] <nacc> Seveas: it absolutely exists in xenial
[21:19] <Ntemis> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[21:19] <nacc> Ntemis: i understand your system *thinks* it is running xenial; that's not necessarily the same thing, given your output earlier
[21:19] <Ntemis> i see
[21:19] <nacc> Ntemis: can you pastebin your sources.list
[21:19] <Seveas> nacc: no, it does not.
[21:19] <Ntemis> how we fix it guys
[21:19] <Ntemis> yes i can
[21:19] <dave_s> nacc: from what I can tell it's an involved process in systemd and doing it with CRON @reboot does not work
[21:20] <nacc> Seveas: i don't know where you are looking, but rmadison clearly indicates it does.
[21:20] <nacc> Seveas: and ubottu also just found it...
[21:21] <Ntemis> nacc: is empy
[21:21] <Ntemis> nacc: is empty /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:21] <Ntemis> nothing there
[21:21] <nacc> Ntemis: check /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[21:21] <Seveas> nacc: puzzling. apt-cache doesn't find it for me :|
[21:21] <Ntemis> my /etc/apt/sources.list is empty
[21:22] <Seveas> nacc: smells like a bug in apt-cache. apt-cache search doesn't find it, but apt-cache show shows it!
[21:22] <nacc> Seveas: intersting; apt-cache is not an accurate way to check that as it relies on your local apt-cache, fwiw; but i see the same thing. `apt-cache show g++-multilib` shows it, though, probably a bug
[21:22] <nacc> Seveas: yeah :/
[21:23] <nacc> Seveas: use rmadison or our friendly ubottu to search in general
[21:23] <Seveas> koekblik:~$ apt-cache search g++-multilib
[21:23] <Seveas> koekblik:~$ apt-cache show g++-multilib | head -n1
[21:23] <Seveas> Package: g++-multilib
[21:23] <Seveas> I don't trust ubottu. I wrote him :)
[21:23] <Ntemis> nacc: these are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder https://paste.ubuntu.com/23427599/
[21:23] <nacc> Seveas: heh
[21:23] <nacc> Seveas: well, rmadison then :)
[21:23] <Ntemis> now what?
[21:24] <knittell> good evening again
[21:24] <nacc> Ntemis: it makes no sense (afaik) for your sources.list to be empty. That would not result from any of the official upgrade paths. I unfortuantely need to get some work done, but someone can probably help you reconstruct that
[21:24] <Ntemis> nacc: note that i come from 10.04 ->12.04 ->14.04
[21:24] <nacc> Ntemis: all today?
[21:25] <nacc> Ntemis: or do you mean over the years
[21:25] <Ntemis> ofc not
[21:25] <Ntemis> yes over the years
[21:25] <Ntemis> :)
[21:25] <nacc> Ntemis: you would be surprised what we get here
[21:25] <Ntemis> i wont
[21:25] <Seveas> Ntemis: here's a vanilla one: https://gist.github.com/seveas/09139dc2ce7e46e37ca6647b193ac0c9
[21:25] <Ntemis> great thanks
[21:25] <Seveas> just take out the last two lines. didn't notice them before gisting
[21:26] <nacc> Seveas: i wonder if apt-cache is getting confused by the '+'
[21:26] <Seveas> nacc: that's what I'm guessing
[21:26] <nacc> Seveas: `apt-cache search g++` finds it; but `apt-cache search g++-` does not
[21:26] <Seveas> koekblik:~$ apt-cache search 'g\+\+-multilib'
[21:26] <Seveas> g++-multilib - GNU C++ compiler (multilib files)
[21:27] <nacc> yeah, unfortunate :/
[21:27] <Bashing-om> Ntemis: Following along .. I would find ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' a better reference .
[21:27] <Ntemis> ow after Seveas sources i have a lot of upgrades
[21:28] <Seveas> Ntemis: so you're not on xenial at all yet
[21:28] <Ntemis> looks like it
[21:28] <Ntemis> sec to post log
[21:28] <dr3gs> has anyone ever set up a local ubuntu repository mirror?
[21:29] <Seveas> have fun upgrading, and next time you do a release upgrade, use do-release-upgrade :)
[21:29] <Seveas> dr3gs: yes, people have.
[21:30] <Ntemis> Seveas: here https://paste.ubuntu.com/23427619/
[21:30] <dr3gs> Is it possible to host one without creating a new GPG key?
[21:30] <Ntemis> shall i do a dist-upgrade too?
[21:30] <blitzcreep> hello, how do i make a hostname known to the local network?
[21:31] <Ntemis> Seveas: ?
[21:31] <knittell> forgive me my stupid question, but what is dash?
[21:31] <blitzcreep> hostname is set in hosts and etc/hostname, but when i try to ping it from another com it tells me "unknown host..."
[21:31] <knittell> i'm reading the manual
[21:31] <dr3gs> blitzcreep: you need to create a DNS server or edit the hosts file on other computers to use it
[21:32] <Seveas> Ntemis: oh, that's not a lot of updates at all. Sounds like you're on xenial but missed the security updates. And yes, do dist-upgrade too.
[21:32] <dr3gs> otherwise the other computers don't know that it exists..
[21:32] <Ntemis> is doing a lot of work though
[21:32] <knittell> sorry i go to google it
[21:32] <Seveas> knittell: an alternative shell that's a lot more limited than bash but does implement what POSIX says a /bin/sh should.
[21:33] <knittell> adacadabra
[21:33] <knittell> for this stuff i'm like a baby
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> knittell  the bar on the left, see the upper icon, that's Dash
[21:33] <blitzcreep> dr3gs, i did that with the hosts files afaik
[21:33] <Seveas> knittell: so why do you want to know?
[21:33] <knittell> i have to start from ground
[21:33] <knittell> ok, thanks
[21:34] <Ntemis> yeah
[21:34] <Ntemis> now i can install g++-multilib
[21:34] <Ntemis> :D thanks guys
[21:34] <knittell> seveas i installed for several years computers but supplied them all with windows
[21:34] <dr3gs> blitzcreep: did you modify the hosts files on other PC's on your network?
[21:34] <knittell> now i have 2 computers installed with ubuntu , but i never worked with it
[21:35] <knittell> i simply want to learn it
[21:35] <knittell> but never used it, so no experience at all
[21:35] <dr3gs> best way to learn is to force yourself to start using it
[21:36] <Ntemis> ok lets see now
[21:36] <Defiance_> most questions are easily anwsered (especially with ubuntu) via a google search.
[21:37] <knittell> and thats what i'm doing n,ow
[21:38] <knittell> i dont use windows for yself anymore , but now i am on an ubuntu Mate system
[21:38] <knittell> and i continue with it
[21:38] <knittell> but i want some more knowledge then just only nets urfing and listen music :)
[21:38] <knittell> of course it will cost time, but i have
[21:38] <knittell> if i could find a list with the basic words like bash & dash and so on?
[21:38] <knittell> then i could go a little bit farther
[21:39] <knittell> ok defiance, i will use first google in the future and then come here
[21:39] <knittell> i keep the channel open but will not bother you persons with my craps
[21:39] <blitzcreep> dr3gs, i did it via ssh on the other comp, tried editing etc/hosts, etc/hostname, hostnamectl set-hostname ....
[21:40] <blitzcreep> if it would be winw00z i would say its bc firewall is up ...but here i dunno 0o
[21:41] <ikonia> it's called "windows"
[21:41] <ikonia> please show a little respect and use it's correct name
[21:41] <blitzcreep> can you say that in here ikonia :P
[21:41] <ikonia> yes, it's called "windows"
[21:41] <Bashing-om> !manual | knittell Have you seen :
[21:41] <blitzcreep> ^^
[21:42] <knittell> yes, i have that open now ubottu
[21:42] <knittell> why i came with the question what's dash? :)
[21:42] <knittell> i did not forget what is it anyway
[21:43] <knittell> i'm just by "welcome" atm
[21:43] <blitzcreep> dr3gs, can i pm you? :D
[21:43] <dr3gs> blitzcreep: sur
[21:43] <blitzcreep> thx
[21:45] <donttrustem> hi guys how do I fix this issue W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:67c:1562::16 80]
[21:45] <ikonia> that host is unavailable
[21:45] <OerHeks> donttrustem, upgrade, lucid is EOl
[21:46] <donttrustem> I cannot upgrae until I update my mailserver ....
[21:46] <ikonia> change mirrrs
[21:46] <Bashing-om> donttrustem: Well lucid is releae 10.04 .. that is long out of support, and the repository no longer exist .
[21:46] <OerHeks> servers are down, etc, there is only the old-releases trick to upgrade
[21:46] <ikonia> or hit it a few times, it's round robin dns so should hit one of the other mirrors
[21:46] <donttrustem> I need to add 2 packages before I upgrade
[21:46] <ikonia> ahh yes, it's lucid as well
[21:46] <ikonia> good spot OerHeks
[21:46] <OerHeks> ow, we are short of old lucid mailserver zombienetworks
[21:47] <donttrustem> OerHeks: what is the trick please
[21:47] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[21:48] <OerHeks> see here how to edit your sources with old-release, and do the lts update to 12.04 > 14.04 or better fresh 16.04
[21:51] <knittell> strange thing if i click dash i cant type anything
[21:52] <knittell> i see what it supposed to be but i have something different
[21:52] <knittell> so, dont know what to do yet
[21:53] <OerHeks> knittell, what ubuntu version do you have installed
[21:57] <Ntemis> thanks guys system works great now
[21:57] <OerHeks> have fun Ntemis
[21:57] <Ntemis> ty
[22:11] <danielx> hi
[22:12] <FManTropyx> hello
[22:15] <tonygaga> So i got this strange problem: i recently was updating when the time change happened so it told me it took 2^32 days to complete, apart from being funny i couldn't poweroff my system anymore and i've no idea where it got stuck.. then i changed the time in the BIOS and it worked again. so i changed it back and it couldn't poweroff again... any idea what it could be?
[22:17] <tonygaga> i always checked when it was stuck what it already did. everything was successful apart from once there was mysqld which was in a 10min timeout
[22:17] <FManTropyx> are there accounting programs for Ubuntu?
[22:18] <Jsync> Ah, .ha.ha.ha.ha
[22:20] <nacc> FManTropyx: yes
[22:20] <nacc> FManTropyx: search the software center or `apt-cache search`
[22:23] <JFlash> hi, so I bought a thumb drive and created a bootable drive with a software called unetbootin
[22:23] <JFlash> but whatever I choose from my boot menu or bios boot order, it always boots back to existing ubuntu instalation, not from the drive
[22:24] <JFlash> what could be wrong?
[22:26] <Bashing-om> JFlash: Rgat pops to mind is a bad copy to the USB device OR grub not installed onto the device .
[22:26] <Bashing-om> What *
[22:26] <JFlash_> sorry I lost connection
[22:26] <JFlash_> please help
[22:26] <JFlash_> btw, both the port and the stick are usb 3.0
[22:27] <tonygaga> JFlash_: do you select a distro with unetbootin or do you select your own ISO image ?
[22:27] <Bashing-om> JFlash_: What pops to mind is a bad copy to the USB device OR grub not installed onto the device . Does it boot in another machine ?
[22:30] <JFlash_> select my own iso that I downloaded from the ubuntu studio website
[22:30] <JFlash_> tonygaga, that
[22:30] <JFlash_> Bashing-om, haven't tried..
[22:30] <tonygaga> JFlash_: have you tried on another machine?
[22:30] <tonygaga> oh
[22:30] <JFlash_> no I dont have another
[22:31] <tonygaga> another stick ?
[22:31] <JFlash_> nope, but  I can try another port or another disk maker
[22:31] <JFlash_> what really anoys me is that I cannot even tell which drive is what
[22:31] <tonygaga> usually the usb-disk-creater works just fine
[22:31] <JFlash_> because appearently evything is called samsung
[22:32] <tonygaga> unplug the others
[22:32] <JFlash_> i mean sandisk
[22:32] <tonygaga> do you have a working linux machine=?
[22:32] <JFlash_> there's "sandisk ultra" and another thing "sandisk <long number here>
[22:32] <JFlash_>  i have this one , it's the same one running ubuntu
[22:33] <tonygaga> then use usb-creator-gtk
[22:33] <JFlash_> basically what I'm trying to do is to run ubuntu-studio from the pendrive
[22:33] <JFlash_> ok then
[22:34] <JFlash_> how can I tell what is the name of my ssd drive from inside the bios?
[22:34] <JFlash_> it doest tell me sizes or anything
[22:34] <JFlash_> also both are sandisk
[22:34] <JFlash_> that's very depressing
[22:36] <JFlash_> will try again . ttygl
[22:37] <gde33> can screenshot be set to 1 monitor?
[22:38] <Bashing-om> JFlash_: One way to know the identification of the USB device . open terminal and ' tail -f /var/log/syslog ' plug in the usb drive see what is reported ,, unplug and again observe .
[22:40] <OerHeks> gde33, gnome-screenshot can
[22:41] <kg6hum> I'm running 14.04.4 LTS, and randomly after a reboot I cannot start an X session.  When I login, the screen flashes and I just get sent back to the lightdm login screen
[22:41] <gde33> OerHeks: I just install that and it will become the default? or is that the default already?
[22:41] <gde33> http://img.go-here.nl/Screenshot%20from%202016-11-04%2023-36-54.png
[22:42] <OerHeks> gde33, not sure, i installed it manually, and became standard iirc
[22:42] <technocf> I, stupidly, clicked "Add to Launcher" to a chrome window when Skype was open and now "Google Chrome" is called "Skype" in my Unity launcher and all Chrome windows are called Skype.  How to fix?
[22:42] <gde33> OerHeks: k ill try
[22:43] <FManTropyx> I went through Software once and didn't see any
[22:44] <OerHeks> !info gnome-screenshot
[22:44] <OerHeks> optional indeed.
[22:45] <Lewoco> How do I mute/unmute using command line on Xenial?
[22:45] <OerHeks> FManTropyx, most populair one is gnu-cash, lots of manuals to find too, simple to small-business
[22:48] <Lewoco> pactl set-sink-mute 0 toggle
[22:49] <george156200911> hello there! is there a log file aboout download errors of the software downloader ?
[22:50] <george156200911> *updater
[22:52] <OerHeks> george156200911, yes, in /var/log/apt/term.log
[22:54] <OerHeks> or /var/log/dpkg.log /var/log/dpkg1.log
[22:54] <george156200911> thnx
[22:54] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  +1, didnt know that one
[22:56] <gde33> OerHeks: ohh shift prtscr gives a sexy cursor that allows selecting part of the screen
[22:56] <OerHeks> good find, forgot about all those shortcuts
[22:57] <JFlash> darn, I just tried ubuntu disk startup creator as suggested
[22:57] <JFlash> tested on the usb port
[22:57] <JFlash> i mean the usb2 port
[22:57] <JFlash> on both usb2 ports..  I just get a message "boot error"
[22:57] <JFlash> why, just why?
[22:57] <JFlash> I bought this drive just for this.. it was the best drive they had
[22:57] <hiwk> I want three-finger-tap on my touchpad to generate middle-click/paste, how can I achive this?
[22:58] <hiwk> the opposite of https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/4ac530/what_happened_to_the_threefingermiddleclick/
[22:58] <OerHeks> windows 10 on that machine? fastboot enabled? ( not secureboot, that is different)
[22:58] <OerHeks> JFlash ^^
[22:58] <hiwk> ubuntu 16.04
[22:58] <JFlash> i can get to the boot menu of the bios , no problem
[22:58] <JFlash> i can select where to boot from
[22:59] <JFlash> machine came with windows but now only has ubuntu on it
[23:00] <neo_> hello
[23:00] <hiwk> I have synclient TapButton3=2 ClickFinger3=2, but I thing some three finger gesture is intercepting the three-finger tap
[23:00] <JFlash> anything else that  I can try except for another computer?   (i only have this laptop)
[23:01] <neo_> Is it possible to transfer Ubuntu software packages from 16.04 to 16.10 on a new computer
[23:01] <neo_> Is it possible to transfer Ubuntu software packages from 16.04 to 16.10 on a new computer?
[23:01] <OerHeks> JFlash, so it is not your only machine, i did not see you leave here :-D
[23:01] <hiwk> neo_: what?
[23:01] <neo_> All I read about using dpkg --set-selections involves the same version.
[23:01] <neo_> I am trying to migrate my packages from 16.04 to 16.10 on a new computer i bought
[23:02] <Bashing-om> neo_: No, think version control .
[23:02] <hiwk> neo_: what do you mean by "migrate"?
[23:02] <OerHeks> neo_, if they are ubuntu packages, maybe a bad idea
[23:03] <neo_> yeah they binaries
[23:03] <neo_> packages
[23:03] <hiwk> neo_: why?
[23:03] <neo_> because I wanna transfer everything to my new computer
[23:03] <neo_> I dont have to installed all the packages
[23:03] <JFlash> OerHeks, are you calling me a lyar?
[23:03] <JFlash> OerHeks, I only have this machine
[23:04] <hiwk> neo_: I don't get it. Are you on a restricted data plan?
[23:04] <AJ_Z0> nvidia-367 with GeForce GTX 460 prevents boot - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2016-November/288110.html
[23:06] <neo_> Hello any answer
[23:08] <hiwk> neo_: unless you describe why you would want that, my suggestion is "don't, just install t he packages you want on the new pakages when you need them"
[23:09] <neo_> hiwk: you buy a new laptop and you wanna migrate all your old programs
[23:10] <hiwk> neo_: why?
[23:10] <neo_> hiwk: but your new latop you have Ubuntu 16.10 instead of 16.04 like your old one
[23:10] <hiwk> neo_: apt-get install the ones you want on the new computer
[23:10] <neo_> hiwk: because it is a long list of programs on your old computer you cant keep track of
[23:10] <hiwk> if you don't remember the old program, you probably don't need them
[23:11] <hiwk> just install whenever you try to start a program that isn't already installed
[23:11] <neo_> hiwk: yeah but there are also dependencies and libraries and what not
[23:11] <hiwk> apt-get install
[23:12] <neo_> hiwk: I just wish  I can have them all preloaded
[23:12] <hiwk> ok
[23:12] <OerHeks> this gives a list of metapackages you have installed >> apt-cache search . | grep -i "metapackage\|meta-package"
[23:13] <OerHeks> or go wild with your 16.04 packages with apt-clone or something
[23:14] <ch1s3l> #hackthevote
[23:16] <ikonia> ch1s3l: don't need that here please
[23:16] <JFlash> so guys
[23:17] <JFlash> since the bootable drive option does sseem it will work
[23:17] <JFlash> can  install ubuntu studio alongside current ubuntu, like in another partition
[23:17] <JFlash> where can I find a tutorial on how to do this?
[23:18] <JFlash> (hopefully it doent involve using a usb stick!)
[23:18] <Ben64> you can, i don't see the point though, you can do anything in ubuntu you can do in studio
[23:18] <JFlash> well but it comes preconfigured
[23:18] <JFlash> i'd have to install the low latency kernel and all that
[23:19] <JFlash> I'm a novice user, I need something that is already preconfigured :(
[23:19] <ikonia> why do you need both though
[23:20] <ikonia> why not just use ubuntu studio if thats what you want preconfigured
[23:20] <JFlash> well i just dont want to do away with my current setup. ubuntu studio is like something I will need for a few hours once per week
[23:20] <JFlash> my regular instalation I use evryday and it's very customised to my needs
[23:20] <ikonia> but you can do everything you do in ubuntu in ubuntu studio
[23:20] <JFlash> custom terminal custom fonts etc
[23:20] <ikonia> customized in what way
[23:21] <ikonia> you can transfer that across quite easy
[23:21] <JFlash> ok thanks for the input
[23:21] <JFlash> ttyl
[23:21] <hiwk> I want three-finger-tap on my touchpad to generate middle-click/paste, how can I achive this? I do not need any three-fingure gestures, it that gets in the way
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> hiwk  start here, an old post, 2011 ... maybe you find something usefull in it ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/84771/middle-click-with-a-three-finger-touchpad-tap-on-11-10-how-can-i-restore-this
[23:26] <lotus> Hey guys!
[23:27] <lotus> Help me :(  I broke my pc :(  I was so excited that I could boot 16.10 with my nvme drive that I was like, "Okay cool beans let's install"  --  it formatted my stuff, and then the install failed.
[23:27] <lotus> "Install error copying files to hard disk"
[23:27] <lotus> *sad face*
[23:27] <lotus> why?  how to fix?
[23:31] <younder> lotus: what model NVM-E drive?
[23:31] <lotus> Hmmmm
[23:31] <lotus> I... am not sure.
[23:32] <lotus> PCIe... lenovo p50... looking...
[23:32] <younder> lotus: do a  lshw -drive (if you can still access the command line)
[23:32] <lotus> In a live environment right not
[23:32] <lotus> now*
[23:33] <lotus> I get help text for that command
[23:34] <lotus>                 vendor: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd
[23:34] <lotus>                 version: 01
[23:34] <lotus> width 64bit clock 33mhz
[23:35] <younder> lotus: sorry  lshw -c disk
[23:35] <lotus> doesn't show the same device?
[23:35] <lotus> Hold on, let me get you a gist
[23:37] <lotus> http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/3373
[23:37] <lotus> younder: ^
[23:39] <hiwk> MonkeyDust: thanks, but didn't help ./
[23:40] <younder> lotus, have you read this? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=128212
[23:44] <Guest74591> hello
[23:44] <Guest74591> Guys every time that i open the dash the configurations get reseted
[23:45] <Guest74591> I'm talking about search configuration such as: app, files & folds etc
[23:47] <lotus> younder: my wifi card is apparently unstable in the live environment
[23:47] <lotus> younder: did you see anything?  :(
[23:49] <lotus> ugh maybe I need to turn _on_ raid?
[23:49] <lotus> It's... worth a shot...
[23:50] <Bashing-om> lotus: Desktop install does not have the tools to deal with raid .
[23:50] <lotus> Bashing-om: can it deal with NVMe?
[23:50] <lotus> Bashing-om: because that's the only harddrive I have right now :(
[23:51] <Bashing-om> lotus: 16.10 I hear can deal with NVMe ... lemme see what i can find .
[23:51] <lotus> 16.10 atleast booted into the live environment
[23:51] <lotus> but the install fails copying the files
[23:51] <lotus> I occassionally lose wireless in this live environment
[23:51] <lotus> I'll reconnect within 15 minutes if I go away :(
[23:55] <nitero> hello.  i just got a new gpu, a gtx 1060.  however, when i try to boot into linux, i get an error on my tv that says "not supported".  windows works fine though.
[23:55] <nitero> i get the same error both on linux-mint 17 native installation, and linux-mint 18 usb live distro


[07:05] <mup> PR snapd#12044 closed: tests: remove ubuntu 21.10 from sru validation <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12044>
[07:50] <mup> PR snapd#12025 closed: progress: export stdout so it can be overridden by ubuntu-image <⛔ Blocked> <Needs Samuele review> <Created by jawn-smith> <Closed by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12025>
[08:16] <mup> PR snapd#12050 opened: data/selinux: allow snaps to read certificates <Needs security review> <Created by mardy> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12050>
[09:36] <mup> PR snapd#12047 closed: many: progress bars should use the overridable stdouts <Skip spread> <Created by pedronis> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12047>
[09:46] <mup> PR snapd#12051 opened: HACKING.md: extend guidelines with common review comments <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12051>
[13:43] <mup> PR snapcraft#3877 closed: tests: enable provider spread tests for core22 <Created by mr-cal> <Merged by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3877>
[16:28] <mup> PR snapd#12052 opened: daemon: add GET support for `/systems/<seed-label>` <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12052>
[16:54] <diddledani> I've diagnosed snapd's `snap pack` issue when running in an arm64 container via qemu-user: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1916552
[16:54] <mup> Bug #1916552: Snapcraft 4.5.1 - cannot pack “/data/prime”: mksquashfs call failed: signal: segmentation fault (core dumped) <snapd:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1916552>
[16:58] <mup> PR snapd#12053 opened: o/assertstate: don't refresh enforced validation sets during check <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12053>