[00:40] <volkovmqx> hey there
[08:40] <elacheche> Morning folks
[08:40] <SalahMessaoud> o/ elacheche
[08:41] <nzoueidi> Morning channel
[08:44] <elacheche> Yo SalahMessaoud :)
[08:45] <elacheche> nzoueidi: we have fair enough time, what about trying to add volkovmqx workshops??
[08:53] <elacheche> What do you thin nzoueidi
[08:57] <nzoueidi> Yep, that's what I was thinking about :D
[08:57] <praisethemoon> good day everyone
[08:58] <nzoueidi> o/ praisethemoon
[08:58] <praisethemoon> nzoueidi, \o
[09:00] <elacheche> Hello praisethemoon, I'm thinking about adding volkovmqx workshops.. We have enough time, and we can share the place
[09:01] <elacheche> He mailed me asking why I picked only 3 workshops, I'm ansering him that we didn't knew how much time we'll have..
[09:03] <praisethemoon> elacheche, sure
[09:03] <praisethemoon> what do you have in mind?
[09:03] <praisethemoon> and tell him to join the IRC
[09:03] <praisethemoon> we can't coordinate like that
[09:04] <elacheche> He joined last night after I left.. He's a night guy x)
[09:04] <nzoueidi> hahahaha he is my friend :D
[09:05] <nzoueidi> night guys are very cool :D
[09:05] <elacheche> :D
[09:06] <elacheche> I'm emailing him and contacting org tam about the changes, I hope they'll accept x)
[09:08] <nzoueidi> I hope that too
[09:08] <praisethemoon> nzoueidi, he's my friend too
[09:09] <elacheche> He's a god guy :)
[09:09] <elacheche> good*
[09:09] <nzoueidi> my coffee time x) brb
[09:27] <elacheche> One of you have his recent phone number?
[09:28] <elacheche> nzoueidi: praisethemoon I'll use utn twitter to share news about the workshops today, and I'll be asking people to bring their laptops.. The VMs and pcs in the labs are just our backup, just in case.. ;)
[09:28] <praisethemoon> elacheche, thank you
[09:29] <praisethemoon> You're a life saver
[09:29] <elacheche> nzoueidi: praisethemoon PLEASE be sure you know how to setup system wide proxy in your OS :p We'll need that
[09:30] <praisethemoon> I don't
[09:30] <praisethemoon> You mean internet proxy?
[09:30] <elacheche> You don't need internet?
[09:30] <praisethemoon> I do
[09:30] <praisethemoon> ahhh
[09:30] <praisethemoon> I do know yeah
[09:30] <praisethemoon> always do that in ISSAT
[09:30] <elacheche> So, you need proxy :D And you need to know how to setup it for your attendees :p
[09:30] <praisethemoon> i'll bring a 3G stick just in case :3
[09:30] <praisethemoon> sure \o/
[09:31] <elacheche> You'll serve 30 attendees?
[09:31] <elacheche> :D
[09:32] <elacheche> Good link http://askubuntu.com/a/175177/119945
[09:37] <elacheche> praisethemoon: Please don't bring a WinBugs machine x)
[09:37] <praisethemoon> muahahahaha
[09:37] <praisethemoon> i'll try not to
[09:37] <praisethemoon> i don't have windows on my laptop anyway
[09:40] <elacheche> Good boy :p
[09:43] <praisethemoon> my laptop risks crashing though
[09:43] <praisethemoon> ;-;
[09:44] <elacheche> That's not a big deal x) But why?
[09:45] <elacheche> praisethemoon: nzoueidi do you have lotfi's phone? Or someone can ping him via Failook?? → I don't have access in here
[09:45] <praisethemoon> not me >:
[09:46] <elacheche> Why it can crash?
[09:49] <praisethemoon> elacheche, my laptop has several issues: 1. Battery no life, 2. When the CPU usage exceeds 40%? It crashes, 3. The female power slot in my computer shakes, so it cannot connect properly to the charger, 4. The charger is dead, the LED lights but provides no alimentation
[09:49] <praisethemoon> so i use my cousin's charger instead
[09:54] <nzoueidi> elacheche:  lotfi messaoudi?
[09:58] <elacheche> YEAH
[09:59] <elacheche> praisethemoon: xà
[09:59] <elacheche> praisethemoon: x)
[10:03]  * praisethemoon is a poor guy :(
[10:03] <nzoueidi> I think he is not connected
[10:04] <amine> guys anyone of you contributed to the kernel before?
[10:05] <elacheche> amine: nzoueidi is learning that.. :D
[10:05] <amine> nice, what exactly is he learning?
[10:05] <elacheche> praisethemoon: My laptop is better than yours, at least I just don't have a battery :p
[10:06] <elacheche> amine: This eudyptula-challenge.org :)
[10:06] <amine> ah
[10:06] <amine> I started and stopped at the second or the third test I think, very slow to reply
[10:07] <elacheche> amine: They fixed that I guess..
[10:08] <amine> Im building an openwrt fw image with -j100 (100 threads) my PC is about to blow up :D
[10:09] <elacheche> x)
[10:09] <nzoueidi> amine: that is due to the other requests of participants :D but in general the little pinguin doesn't pass 1 day without replying I guess
[10:10] <nzoueidi> amine: I will be glad if you come to my workshop :D
[10:11] <amine> I would like to, but Im not in Tunisia sadly
[10:11] <nzoueidi> ah :( it is okay
[10:11] <amine> yours is about contributing to the kernel right?
[10:11] <nzoueidi> yep
[10:11] <amine> and what are you going to exactly talk about?
[10:12] <nzoueidi> I will just mention the basics of how you can submit your 1st patch
[10:12] <nzoueidi> I will talk about git, finding the bug and patch it, then finally mail it
[10:15] <SalahMessaoud> lots of interesting stuff :D
[10:16] <SalahMessaoud> kernel, C, Docker, IoT, Lua .......
[10:17] <nzoueidi> yep SalahMessaoud :D
[10:18] <nzoueidi> for the other workshops, I think we need a seperate event to talk about them cc elacheche
[10:21] <amine> thats nice, good luck!
[10:29] <elacheche> SalahMessaoud: But not too much workshops :/
[10:29] <elacheche> Not like years ago..
[10:30] <elacheche> nzoueidi: Do you have Failbook access?
[10:38] <elacheche> nzoueidi: The jobs in here are in Tunis? → http://sfd.tn/2016/11/nos-sponsors-recrutent/
[10:41] <SalahMessaoud> elacheche, yes
[10:41] <SalahMessaoud> the 2 companies are based in Tunis
[10:43] <elacheche> OKi x)
[10:45] <nzoueidi> back, yeah elacheche they are in Tunis those offer jobs
[10:54] <elacheche> Good to know :D
[10:57] <amine> I will never be able to work in Tunisia because of my shitty French lol
[10:58] <elacheche> amine: I use English whenever I can.. I only use Frensh with some clients.. And for that I make sure that I sue short snetenses.. To not make huge mistakes x)
[10:59] <nzoueidi> same here :D elacheche x)
[10:59] <amine> I just hate that language, the country and its people :p
[10:59] <amine> so arrogant, even the Germans I work with here admit that
[11:05] <elacheche> x)
[11:07] <elacheche> nzoueidi: praisethemoon if lotfi come here and I'm not around you can discuss sharing the room.. He have 2 workshops.. FYI, I can share, someone else should share too :p If he comes and I'm afk, you can plan the whole sharing thing, including sharing my lab
[11:07] <elacheche> You're wise enough to do that :p
[11:14] <elacheche> nzoueidi: praisethemoon
[11:14] <elacheche> you're here ??
[11:14] <elacheche> How many people you can accept in your workshops?
[11:15] <praisethemoon> elacheche, i'm here
[11:15] <praisethemoon> i can accept +oo
[11:16] <elacheche> praisethemoon: OK, you'll get the i7 lab
[11:16] <praisethemoon> \o/
[11:16] <elacheche> I'll ask for it x)
[11:17] <elacheche> I need to send a confirmation about that
[11:17] <elacheche> I'll ask lotfi who'll want to share labs with :p
[11:18] <praisethemoon> elacheche, on hour and a half would be enough for me
[11:18] <praisethemoon> he can take the rest
[11:18] <praisethemoon> if not, I can benefit from the rest of the time
[11:18] <elacheche> nzoueidi: or you'd like to share the lab with me and keep him in one lab for his own, because he have 2 workshops?
[11:19] <praisethemoon> elacheche, how long is ur workshop going to take?
[11:19] <elacheche> praisethemoon: Lotfi have 2 workshops, It'll be easier for him to not change labs.. I think I can share a labs with nzoueidi if he's ok with that!
[11:20] <praisethemoon> But how long yours might take
[11:20] <elacheche> praisethemoon: As lon I I like :D I need just to knnow who I'll be sharing with and coordinate :)
[11:20] <praisethemoon> alrighty
[11:21] <elacheche> nzoueidi & I have CLI based workshops x) so people will not be surprised x)
[11:25] <elacheche> nzoueidi: what do you think?
[11:39] <elacheche> nzoueidi: stop eating and check irc x)
[12:22] <nzoueidi> hahahaha elacheche :D I was eating :DD
[12:23] <nzoueidi> for me I can accept oo too :D
[12:24] <nzoueidi> but yeah I can share also, no problem
[12:27] <elacheche> OK, we share a lab together nzoueidi, praisethemoon get the i7 lab, and lotfi get the other lab
[12:27] <elacheche> nzoueidi: ubuntu-tn is present with 5 workshops from a sum of 6 workshops..
[12:28] <nzoueidi> Cool!  So, let me summurize this before sending a confirmation to SFD ORg team, we're late already..
[12:32] <elacheche> praisethemoon: Will need G14 (i7 lab).. With a maximum number of attendees = 12 and > 12 if they have they're laptops with them..
[12:32] <volkovmqx> hey @elacheche
[12:32] <elacheche> elacheche & nzoueidi will get G1.. With a maximum number of attendees = 12 and > 12 if they have they're laptops with them..
[12:33] <elacheche> volkovmqx: will get G2.. With a maximum number of attendees = 25
[12:33] <elacheche> nzoueidi: praisethemoon volkovmqx do you confirm that it is right that way?
[12:33] <nzoueidi> seems cool for me
[12:33] <nzoueidi> yep
[12:34] <praisethemoon> I read & accept the terms & conditions
[12:34] <volkovmqx> AFAIK G2 can't handle 25, all the labs in G block can't handle 25
[12:34] <elacheche> )
[12:34] <praisethemoon> Yeah :P
[12:35] <elacheche> I don't know them.. What do you suggest
[12:35] <volkovmqx> So, i think 15 attendees are good
[12:35] <elacheche> ok.. Roget that :)
[12:35] <elacheche> roger..
[12:36] <elacheche> Let me send the confirmation.. And nzoueidi praisethemoon volkovmqx there is only 2 other details you should know.. I'll come back in a minute
[12:36] <nzoueidi> Alright, tyt
[12:42] <volkovmqx> i need to go now, i will be back in  3 hours. elacheche please email me the details. have a nice evening
[12:45] <elacheche> OK.. So, nzoueidi praisethemoon you know already that there is PCs in labs with VMware installed :/ .. The other thing is that you're doingthe Workshop as Ubuntu-tn members :) So you or someone else should present ubuntu-tn before you start ;) :p
[12:46] <elacheche> I know that nzoueidi know how to do that and what to say x) praisethemoon don't think you know a bit about that x) Am I wrong?
[12:46] <praisethemoon> elacheche, what about vmware
[12:46] <praisethemoon> i ain't using that
[12:47] <praisethemoon> I have never got my hands on that tool
[12:48] <nzoueidi> Good point elacheche :D
[12:48] <elacheche> So, nzoueidi will join you or lotfi for do the utn intorduction.. we'll find someone else from the old utn memebrs that'll join the other guy to present utn.. Maybe nizarus or one of the other Ubuntu Members..
[12:51] <elacheche> nzoueidi: praisethemoon make sure to use utn artworks as well in the prez :p You can use one of thes artworks
[12:51] <elacheche> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-tn-logo3.png
[12:51] <elacheche> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-tn-logo.png
[12:51] <praisethemoon> I haz no pres
[12:51] <praisethemoon> I haz tutorial
[12:51] <praisethemoon> \o/
[12:51] <elacheche> Use them in any doc you'll share :p
[12:52] <praisethemoon> I haz no doc to share
[12:52] <praisethemoon> I haz knowledge
[12:52] <praisethemoon> (how about that huh?)
[12:52] <elacheche> You'll broadcast only codes in the datashow?
[12:53] <praisethemoon> Yes
[12:53] <elacheche> OK then :D nzoueidi will make sure to share our Wiki Page on the datashow when he'll talk about utn :p :D
[12:53] <elacheche> Next.. That VMWare thing..
[12:54] <nzoueidi> indeed :D
[12:54] <elacheche> What's the issue praisethemoon so I can try to help
[12:54] <elacheche> HW acceleration?
[12:55] <praisethemoon> Yes, I need GPU Support
[12:55] <praisethemoon> I mean it usually works
[12:55] <praisethemoon> but on VM I have never tried
[12:56] <elacheche> praisethemoon: you mean GPU support that is enabled in i7 ?
[12:57] <praisethemoon> On the machine.
[12:58] <elacheche> I know, it's related to the CPU? or it needs a GPU ?
[12:59] <elacheche> check this http://www.vmware.com/content/dam/digitalmarketing/vmware/en/pdf/techpaper/vmware-horizon-view-graphics-acceleration-deployment.pdf
[12:59] <elacheche> And this https://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-4-esx-vcenter/index.jsp#com.vmware.vsphere.config_iscsi.doc_41/esx_server_config/managing_storage/c_hardware_acceleration.html
[12:59] <elacheche> And this https://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_vidsound_d3d_enabling_host.html
[13:02] <praisethemoon> elacheche, I am forced to use VMWare? :3
[13:03] <praisethemoon> Like I said I have never used it, and I'm not even motivated
[13:05] <elacheche> praisethemoon: I can'tanswer that... It depends on what the ISSAT IT team give us as admin permissions.. You can stil send a mail asking for not using it..
[13:05] <praisethemoon> I did
[13:05] <praisethemoon> you didn't receive it?
[13:08] <elacheche> Oh! Yeah, I got it, I got too many mails this mornign
[13:08] <elacheche> x)
[13:08] <praisethemoon> elacheche, everything you install in C:/
[13:08] <praisethemoon> will get removed upon UC reset
[13:09] <praisethemoon> they have a software that restores a saved backup of C:
[13:09] <elacheche> The question is, will you get a user that have installaion permissions or not..
[13:13] <elacheche> nzoueidi:
[13:28] <elacheche> nzoueidi: So, what do we do for our lab? You'll need a Ubuntu desktop? I was planning to use Ubuntu server.. Because I don't need desktop.. so.. We have 2 options, each of us prepare a VM and we'll import them to VMware before starting, or, we just get 1 iso file and do an install party on vmware before starting the workshop.. what do you think ?
[13:33] <nzoueidi> an install party seems good :D
[13:33] <nzoueidi> but also Ubuntu server is good for me, you know I will just use the CLI :D
[13:33] <elacheche> You'll use cli to sent the patch as well?
[13:34] <elacheche> I think that it'll be more "user-friendly" if you use a desktop version.. Even if you'll use only cli x) what do you think?
[13:34] <nzoueidi> of course :D
[13:35] <nzoueidi> hmm, I am not friend with "user-friendly" xD
[13:35] <elacheche> So we go for a desktop install party to use both of us later?
[13:35] <nzoueidi> Alright, no problem :D
[13:38] <elacheche> Let's wait for nizarus to come back and give us his opinion, he's more friend with usr-friendly than both or us.. in meanwhile, let's think what flavor hould we go for? Mate? Xubuntu? Lubuntu? Remember we have a Quad Core CPU & 3GB or RAM shared with WinXP
[13:39] <elacheche> Also, we can bring a server ISO, and check if our audience knows already how to install and use Ubuntu, we'll go for a server installation.. That'll make us win some cpu and ram..
[13:40] <nzoueidi> Yep, Lubuntu I think good, wdyt?
[13:45] <elacheche> Lubuntu should works fine for me too.. I'll use cli 99% of time..
[13:46] <elacheche> nzoueidi: I'll bring Lubuntu & server 16.04, 32 & 64 bits, just in case..
[13:46] <elacheche> do the same, just in case x)
[13:47] <elacheche> amine, davlefouAMD, praisethemoon SalahMessaoud, if you have any comment about elacheche & nzoueidi plan don't hesitate to share it ;)
[13:48]  * praisethemoon will use kubuntu
[13:49] <davlefouAMD> elacheche, pardon?
[13:49] <elacheche> Yeah praisethemoon on i7 & 8G or RAM you can do whatever you like x) :p
[13:49] <praisethemoon> no elacheche that's my machine
[13:50] <praisethemoon> i don't plan to use vmware
[13:50] <elacheche> davlefouAMD: si t'as des commnetaire sur le plan qu'ont vient de discuter pour les atliers de nzoueidi et moi, merci de les partager :d
[13:50] <elacheche> praisethemoon: So on the labs machines you'll use Winbugs?
[13:50] <praisethemoon> YAS
[13:50] <praisethemoon> \o/
[13:50] <praisethemoon> WinHugs
[13:51] <elacheche> WinSucks -_-
[13:52] <elacheche> praisethemoon: VBox supports hw acceleration vmware should do too..
[13:52] <praisethemoon> elacheche, i'll try VBox!
[13:53] <praisethemoon> with ubuntu
[13:53] <praisethemoon> or lubuntu
[13:53] <davlefouAMD> elacheche, quel atelier avez vous prévue?
[13:53] <praisethemoon> if it works, we're good
[13:54] <elacheche> praisethemoon: if you have admin rights on the machine go for VBox install it and deploy your VM, or do an install party.. I really don't recommand an install party if you didn't attended one before, in that case, I'll join you to do it, or nzoueidi will do..
[13:54] <praisethemoon> never did one
[13:55] <elacheche> davlefouAMD: Nous aurons 5 atelier /6 je vais présenter docker, nzoueidi linux kernel dev, praisethemoon lua & 2D gaming dev, and lotfi Git + Rasberry Pi.. Le 6 éme atelier sera python par un membre d'un autre club
[13:56] <nzoueidi> so praisethemoon let it your 1st one :D
[13:56] <davlefouAMD> ok
[13:56] <davlefouAMD> pi2 ou pi3?
[13:56] <elacheche> praisethemoon: make your plans, if you'll go for an install party we can do it in the same time, this way, I or nzoueidi can join you to lead it then come back to our lab
[13:56] <praisethemoon> elacheche, nzoueidi so I need to prepare an Image disk?
[13:56] <davlefouAMD> Que prevoyez de dire dans le cas pi?
[13:56] <praisethemoon> with everything installed on it?
[13:56] <elacheche> davlefouAMD: je sais pas, lotfi n'est pas là pour répondre à ça
[13:56] <davlefouAMD> j'ai pi3 + kit vga si besoin!
[13:57] <elacheche> davlefouAMD: t'es pas en FrancE?
[13:57] <elacheche>  x)
[13:57] <davlefouAMD> Où prevoyez vous de le faire?
[13:57] <davlefouAMD> elacheche, bizerte.
[13:57] <davlefouAMD> Bizerte.
[13:57] <elacheche> Ah! bon! J'ai toujours pensé que t'es en France x(
[13:57] <elacheche> davlefouAMD: Y aura SFD ce weekend
[13:57] <nzoueidi> praisethemoon:  for me I just need a bootable flash :D
[13:57] <davlefouAMD> elacheche, SFD?
[13:58] <elacheche> http://sfd.tn/2016/
[13:58] <praisethemoon> nzoueidi, how?
[13:58] <elacheche> Software Freedom Day
[13:58] <elacheche> nzoueidi: praisethemoon we migrate to pad for planning that, isn't it better? this way praisethemoon can see what we're really planning and know what he need to plan
[13:58] <elacheche> davlefouAMD: Software Freedom Day http://sfd.tn/2016/
[13:59] <nzoueidi> praisethemoon: elacheche we can do an install party using LAN :D wdyt guys?
[13:59] <davlefouAMD> Ah, c'est a Sousse!
[13:59] <praisethemoon> i haz no idea what are you talking about :'(
[13:59] <elacheche> nzoueidi: no dude.. We have no idea about what FW are in place, and we need to alter the DHCP or remove theirs and use ours.. Bad idea :/
[14:00] <elacheche> davlefouAMD: Oui :) Ce dimancje
[14:00] <elacheche> dimanche
[14:00] <elacheche> nzoueidi: praisethemoon we migrate to here http://pad.tn/p/SFD2016TN
[14:00] <davlefouAMD> Sousse, c'est un peu loin...
[14:01] <nzoueidi> I forget about that elacheche :(
[14:03] <elacheche> x)
[14:04] <elacheche> davlefouAMD: sorry to hear that :/
[14:04] <elacheche> nzoueidi: praisethemoon hack the pad, make the changes you like..
[14:09] <davlefouAMD> elacheche, Désolé.
[14:10] <elacheche> :)
[14:13] <davlefouAMD> Rien de prévue sur Bizerte ou Tunis?
[14:14] <nzoueidi> pour le moment non davlefouAMD
[14:15] <nzoueidi> elacheche: do you still have badges of utn?
[14:16] <elacheche> The badge holders nzoueidi ?
[14:17] <nzoueidi> yep
[14:19] <elacheche> Sure! And stickers.. praisethemoon if you use winbugs for your workshop you're not getting a sticker :p
[14:20] <praisethemoon> nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[14:20] <elacheche> nzoueidi: also, based on the leaks I got, the stands will be after the workshops, so we're ok dude :)
[14:20] <elacheche> hahahaha → evil one x)
[14:25] <davlefouAMD> Tant pis;
[14:25] <davlefouAMD> Tant pis.
[14:27] <nzoueidi> Great! :D
[14:29] <nzoueidi> I will need some stickers about utn before I do my workshop..
[14:29] <nzoueidi> I will do some sort of questions.. and who can answer it I will give them stickers
[14:29] <nzoueidi> hahaha :D
[14:32] <elacheche> nzoueidi: everyone will get stickers.. I don't have utn stickers anymore.. O maybe I still have 4 or 5 in my old wallet.. I used to carr them whith me everywhere, I don't use that wallet anymore, maybe I still have some in it..
[14:32] <elacheche> marwen_: Happy to see your name in the talks ;) Good luck :)
[14:44] <nzoueidi> cool, okay
[14:47] <elacheche> nzoueidi: https://redd.it/2gt7x5 x)
[14:55] <nzoueidi> loooool xDD
[15:19] <praisethemoon> elacheche, when will the event start?
[15:19] <praisethemoon> *time*
[15:22] <elacheche> http://sfd.tn/2016/programme/
[15:23] <nzoueidi> elacheche: do you know any good plugin for weechat to notice you when someone mention your name?
[15:24] <elacheche> I don't nzoueidi, I dorpped xchat becasue of those notifications x) when I don't have to check irc, I don't, I chekc it when I'm free..
[15:25] <nzoueidi> hmm, okay
[15:25] <elacheche> praisethemoon: http://sfd.tn/2016/programme/
[15:26] <elacheche> WTF! Still not compleete x(
[15:26] <nzoueidi> yep, they still fixing it
[15:27] <elacheche> yeah x(
[15:32] <praisethemoon> lel
[15:32] <praisethemoon> ^^
[15:32] <elacheche> praisethemoon: they used dddssbggs instead of our names x) x(
[15:33] <praisethemoon> what XD
[15:33] <praisethemoon> ahahahaha
[15:33] <praisethemoon> XD
[15:33] <elacheche> x( x)
[15:35] <nzoueidi> is the "dddd" the command 2x dd
[15:47] <elacheche> what dd is that the command or the vim command ? x)
[15:51] <nzoueidi> the vim command hahaha :D
[15:53] <elacheche> x)
[16:04] <elacheche> nzoueidi: praisethemoon
[16:04] <nzoueidi> yep
[16:07] <elacheche> The utn twitter will start tweeting about workshops in a moment, re-tweet, and share everywhere :) on the failbook group too, becasue I don't have FB access @work..
[16:07] <nzoueidi> Sure :D
[16:08] <nzoueidi> I am already waiting you to post on u-tn :D
[16:08] <elacheche> nzoueidi: give me a good image that can describe linux kernel workshop x) something not usual x)
[16:09] <nzoueidi> 1 sec
[16:09] <elacheche> Or we should find CC ones :/
[16:10] <nzoueidi> wdyt about this : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Linux_kernel_map.png/440px-Linux_kernel_map.png
[16:10] <nzoueidi> :D
[16:12] <nzoueidi> I don't think it is suitable but there's no pics/logo can describe the Linux kernel
[16:13] <elacheche> x)
[16:15] <nzoueidi> They update the program :
[16:15] <nzoueidi> http://sfd.tn/2016/programme/
[16:18] <elacheche> nzoueidi: what about this
[16:18] <elacheche> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kongharald/13242684424/in/photolist-7At8vF-fgG22P-fgG226-4B45FL-4B45FG-26oXjg-mbddHf-q8fHR-fgZJ3g-5F2U7r-5F7cks-5F2SYR-5F2PRB-4RvMqy-drvpfb-5vuRu-dgL9Mi-4RrB6n-5ETVjR-5F2Lki-4RvLES-5F5Bk3-4RrArt-dcqJ7q-5ETVg2
[16:18] <elacheche> or this
[16:18] <elacheche> https://www.flickr.com/photos/xmodulo/9366550099/in/photolist-7At8vF-fgG22P-fgG226-4B45FL-4B45FG-26oXjg-mbddHf-q8fHR-fgZJ3g-5F2U7r-5F7cks-5F2SYR-5F2PRB-4RvMqy-drvpfb-5vuRu-dgL9Mi-4RrB6n-5ETVjR-5F2Lki-4RvLES-5F5Bk3-4RrArt-dcqJ7q-5ETVg2
[16:18] <elacheche> they are under CC
[16:19] <nzoueidi> I like the 1st one :D
[16:19] <nzoueidi> brb
[16:20] <elacheche> OK
[16:24] <elacheche> bad idea nzoueidi :/ I'll use more generic images.. To not have issues :/
[16:36] <nzoueidi> alright elacheche
[16:46] <elacheche> Here we  :)
[16:46] <elacheche> nzoueidi:  praisethemoon https://twitter.com/UbuntuTn
[16:46] <praisethemoon> \o/
[16:49] <elacheche> :D
[16:52] <praisethemoon> elacheche, a lot of bots retweeted that xd
[16:52] <elacheche> That's gd ;) lot of people llowing bs :)
[16:52] <praisethemoon> yeah x)
[16:52] <elacheche> Sothing wrong with myeyboard, brb
[16:54] <praisethemoon> you don't say?
[16:54] <praisethemoon> (chuckle)
[16:55] <elacheche> x)
[16:55] <nzoueidi> that makes me proud really that we have 4 workshops from 6 :D
[16:55] <nzoueidi> \o/
[16:56] <elacheche> it was konsole x) I edited a 4GB text file with VIM and konsole bugs x)
[16:56] <elacheche> nzoueidi: 5 workshops out of 7 ;)
[16:56] <elacheche> there is a new one ;) check the sfd website ;)
[16:58] <nzoueidi> ah for Sami Bouhlel :D
[16:58] <praisethemoon> see ya later team
[16:58]  * praisethemoon o/
[17:43] <volkovmqx> hey alacheche
[17:44] <volkovmqx> elacheche * sorry.
[17:44] <volkovmqx> this is a link about deep freeze
[17:44] <volkovmqx> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Freeze_(software)
[18:08] <AcidNinjaFWHR> Hi
[18:14] <praisethemoon> AcidNinjaFWHR, hello o/
[18:14] <AcidNinjaFWHR> How are you guys?
[18:14] <AcidNinjaFWHR> i'm bored
[18:15] <SalahMessaoud> still at work :D
[18:15] <praisethemoon> AcidNinjaFWHR, https://twitter.com/UbuntuTn/status/799654588475473922
[18:15] <praisethemoon> \o/
[18:18] <SalahMessaoud> https://twitter.com/CORSEGAMES/status/621238878150787072
[18:18] <SalahMessaoud> :D
[18:18] <AcidNinjaFWHR> I follow you now.
[18:30] <praisethemoon> \o/
[18:30] <praisethemoon> SalahMessaoud, good one xdd
[18:31] <AcidNinjaFWHR> Do you guys know any good newsgroup client ?
[18:32] <AcidNinjaFWHR> I know Thunderbird handles it but I'd like to test another client and can't find one
[18:37] <pavlushka> Oh my praisethemoon is BACK!!
[18:37] <praisethemoon> pavlushka, YOU WERE LATE
[18:39] <pavlushka> praisethemoon: I just sit on my desk, been in other district the whole day :)
[18:39] <pavlushka> *another
[18:40] <praisethemoon> oh :(
[18:41] <praisethemoon> long day?
[19:03] <praisethemoon> AcidNinjaFWHR, i'm sure elacheche does
[19:03] <praisethemoon> but he's afk
[19:12] <AcidNinjaFWHR> praisethemoon, are you part of some Free Software group or ?
[19:33] <praisethemoon> AcidNinjaFWHR, part of ubuntu-tn :3
[19:33] <AcidNinjaFWHR> nice
[19:34] <AcidNinjaFWHR> so you guys hang out together
[19:34] <AcidNinjaFWHR> make meetings & stuff ?
[19:41] <praisethemoon> AcidNinjaFWHR, we have an event this sunday
[19:41] <praisethemoon> Software Freedom Day
[19:41] <praisethemoon> where i'll host a lua & löve workshop \o/
[19:42] <AcidNinjaFWHR> The beast woke up !
[19:42] <AcidNinjaFWHR> :D
[19:43] <praisethemoon> YARRRR
[19:43] <praisethemoon> \o/
[19:54] <AcidNinjaFWHR> okay finally I used Thunderbird for that newsgroup I needed to check
[19:54] <AcidNinjaFWHR> It works great
[20:33] <elacheche> o/
[20:53] <volkovmqx> hey elacheche
[20:56] <elacheche> Hello volkovmqx
[20:57] <volkovmqx> did you got the time to read about deepfreeze ?
[20:57] <volkovmqx> we will get into a lot of troubles if it isn't disabled during the workshop time.
[21:03] <elacheche> No volkovmqx I just came, what kind of issues?
[21:04] <volkovmqx> everything will be deleted upon winbug restart
[21:05] <volkovmqx> and, the installation of vbox require restart i guess
[21:06] <elacheche> I don't think so volkovmqx, afaik, it need only admin permissions, no restart needed
[21:15] <volkovmqx> any idea about the ISSATSo IT guys presence ? for troubleshooting if anything bad happen
[21:19] <elacheche> none
[21:35] <elacheche> nzoueidi: o/
[21:35] <AcidNinjaFWHR> good evening elacheche
[21:36] <AcidNinjaFWHR> & volkovmqx :)
[21:38] <elacheche> Good evening AcidNinjaFWHR :)
[21:40] <nzoueidi> hello folks :D
[21:40] <volkovmqx> hey there
[21:41] <nzoueidi> elacheche: volkovmqx how are you?
[21:42] <volkovmqx> I'm great, thanks for asking !
[21:43] <elacheche> Have a very bad internet,  nzoueidi can you check the pad and fix what need to be fixd?
[21:43] <nzoueidi> Sure, and I am going to add the workshop of volkovmqx to the wiki page
[21:46] <volkovmqx> actually it's 2 workshops, that's what i was going to say.
[21:46] <nzoueidi> aw yeah 2 workshop, but you will merge them both in one workshop, right?
[21:47] <volkovmqx> no, not the same attendees.
[21:47] <volkovmqx> people may be interested in only git
[21:48] <nzoueidi> Alright
[21:48] <volkovmqx> so, i don't know how the registration will be made
[21:48] <elacheche> Yep, 2 workshops in the same lab.. nzoueidi thank you
[21:49] <volkovmqx> but i need them to be separate.
[21:49] <volkovmqx> in the registration form , if any will be made ofc
[21:51] <elacheche> afaik, no registration forms x)
[22:07] <AcidNinjaFWHR> hey praisethemoon
[22:07] <AcidNinjaFWHR> wake up
[22:16] <volkovmqx> Well, elacheche it will be a mess since people are asking me how to register for the workshops and we are limited to 15 person per classroom.
[22:26] <elacheche> volkovmqx: send a mail to Rached alaya..


[09:49] <position1> Hi I installed docky in lubuntu and I want to make it transparent however it does not change. Do I need to install another programm with it?
[09:51] <position1> Something that configures docky?
[11:20] <position1> Hi anyone uses docky in lubuntu? I want to ask something
[13:46] <Glorfindel> I'm in the root recovery shell,  and I need to mount a usb flash drive. What /dev/ device should it be?
[13:47] <Glorfindel> I have tried sdb, sda, and sdf1
[13:50] <Glorfindel> never mind, I did it a different way that didn't need a mount
[14:01] <guest55> I am trying to install a linux on an old 486 box. 512 memory, 20Gb HDD. Is lubuntu the right choice for this? Or something else?
[14:06] <guest55> hello!
[14:06] <guest55> Anybody home?
[14:14] <guest55> How to install on old hardware? And what?
[14:49] <position1> guest55
[14:49] <position1> hi
[14:50] <position1> if you choose an lts version of lubuntu maybe it works but I am not sure
[15:49] <ianorlin> guest55 lubuntu would work best of any of the ubuntu flavors
[18:38] <penguin1263> im using lubuntu as my server :p
[19:09] <chonps> I have a problem with a "always running" Firefox. Can someone help me?
[19:11] <penguin1263> http://i.imgur.com/XbZEFsK.png
[19:11] <penguin1263> cant you kill it in the resource monitor
[19:11] <chonps> I watched files like /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu-Netbook/autostart - /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart - /usr/lib/openbox/openbox-autostart - /usr/lib/openbox/openbox-xdg-autostart
[19:12] <chonps> Yes, I can, but it comes to life in a while
[19:12] <penguin1263> :/
[19:12] <penguin1263> killall firefox?
[19:12] <chonps> Resists a reboot and a .mozilla folder erase.
[19:13] <penguin1263> oh my god
[19:13] <penguin1263> tried askubuntu?
[19:14] <chonps> Well, I duckduckgo'ed a lot, but...
[19:16] <penguin1263> try askubuntu (it's supposed to help with all things ubuntu and lubuntu is a spin)
[19:17] <chonps> ok, thank you, i will
[23:06] <bubbletea> hi
[23:07] <bubbletea> I'm trying to bootcamp ubuntu or some linux onto my old 2006 mbp, should I be going with Lubuntu latest version or what? any advice?
[23:08] <bubbletea> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook_pro_2.16_17.html
[23:08] <bubbletea> I'm a programming student so I just want to start getting experience with linux while having something to code on


[00:19] <MythbuntuGuest05> hi.  I would like to know how I can determine if mplayer was compiled ready for xinerama. ie: -xineramascreen flag
[00:37] <MythbuntuGuest05> Hello. I can't seem to get mplayer correctly displaying on my second X session. Myth shows nicely there, but when I try to watch a DVD, there is audio but no visible video.
[00:42] <MythbuntuGuest05> saw this "http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Running_MythTV_Dual_Headed#Xinerama_.28One_X_server.2C_two_displays.29" but still can't get visible player on the second display.
[00:44] <MythbuntuGuest05> !dualhead display
[00:44] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about dualhead display
[00:44] <MythbuntuGuest05> !-xineramascreen
[00:44] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about -xineramascreen
[00:44] <MythbuntuGuest05> !multiple session
[00:44] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about multiple session
[01:07] <MythbuntuGuest35> can someone help me out with the black screen thing? my permissions are fine. Here is the relevant part of the mythbackend console. It is complaining about ivtv i think. http://pastebin.com/m7430523a
[01:08] <stegel> cany anyone help me get audio working over hdmi? i have an ati hd340
[01:09] <stegel> and I see a HDMI sound option in my Sound settings, but the only think I have in VOlume Bar is iec958
[01:18] <novice_geek> Is anyone here familiar with the directv.pl script?  When I run it, I get "getattr: Input/output error".  Thanks.
[01:19] <novice_geek> I should also mention that I'm using a homemade 4P4C to Serial cable that I made and it does work with a windows application that's out there somewhere online.  Thanks again.
[01:20] <novice_geek> And the receiver is a D10-200.
[01:29] <MrSmurfing> Hello
[01:30] <MrSmurfing> I'm having trouble getting my serial port ir blaster working... I haven't found a good explanation as to how to get it going...
[01:30] <MrSmurfing> Best one seems to be here, but it has huge gaps as to what steps you need to take... http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Using_an_IR_Blaster_with_MythTV
[01:59] <dashcloud> novice_geek: can you get the script to work if you run it in a terminal?
[02:02] <mustangg1> hello.   Can someone help me get mplayer output on my second X screen.\
[02:03] <novice_geek> dashcloud:  that's what I tried.  If I run "perl ./directv.pl setup_channel 10", as an example, it will return "getattr: Input/output error".
[02:03] <dashcloud> you shouldn't need to put perl in front
[02:04] <dashcloud> it should have a line at top that says something like #!/bin/perl or something like that
[02:04] <novice_geek> If I don't run it with perl at the front, I get this:  "-bash: ./directv.pl: /usr/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[02:04] <novice_geek> "
[02:04] <novice_geek> yeah, it does have that line, and it points to the correct location (as far as I can tell), but it still fails
[02:05] <dashcloud> huh- try /usr/bin/perl ./directv.pl
[02:06] <novice_geek> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that.  Do you want me to run /usr/bin/perl ./directv.pl from the command line?
[02:06] <novice_geek> as a single command
[02:09] <dashcloud> yes
[02:09] <novice_geek> ok, that does work.
[02:09] <dashcloud> try changing the first line of the script to /usr/bin/perl then
[02:10] <dashcloud> then try just ./directv.pl
[02:11] <novice_geek> ok... I removed the # and ! characters from in front of /usr/bin/perl, and then ran the command as you stated, and got several errors:  : No such file or directorybin/perl
[02:11] <novice_geek> : command not found2:
[02:11] <novice_geek> : command not found10:
[02:11] <novice_geek> : command not found16:
[02:11] <novice_geek> : command not found21:
[02:11] <novice_geek> : command not found67:
[02:11] <novice_geek> ./directv.pl: line 68: $: command not found
[02:11] <novice_geek> ./directv.pl: line 68: =1: command not found
[02:12] <novice_geek> : command not found68:
[02:12] <novice_geek> ./directv.pl: line 69: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[02:12] <novice_geek> '/directv.pl: line 69: `use POSIX qw(:termios_h);
[02:12] <dashcloud> crap- I meant just substitute /bin/perl with /usr/bin/perl
[02:12] <dashcloud> those other characters are imporant
[02:13] <mustangg1> can anyone suggest how I might get one tv ouput dedicated to mythtv ?
[02:13] <novice_geek> oh... ok then, I'll change it back
[02:13] <novice_geek> it was "#!/usr/bin/perl" before I changed it
[02:14] <novice_geek> It should be clear by now that I have no experience with Perl, and all I recognize in this script is the print command and the comments.
[02:14] <dashcloud> the script itself is quite well-commented (which is good, because I don't know perl either), so I was able to set it up to control my D11 box
[02:17] <dashcloud> wait- put it back the way it originally was, and then make the file executable chmod u+x directv.pl (if it isn't already)
[02:18] <novice_geek> I ran chmod +x earlier, but not u+x.  Let me try that real quick...
[02:19] <novice_geek> same error still
[02:20] <dashcloud> do you have the right serial port selected? (in my case, it's /dev/ttyUSB0)
[02:22] <novice_geek> it's /dev/ttys0, which is right as far as I'm aware.
[02:22] <novice_geek> The system only has one serial port, so I'm assuming that would be it
[02:22] <dgarr>
[02:23] <dashcloud> so you've connected to a serial port then?
[02:23] <novice_geek> yes
[02:25] <dashcloud> okay- can you try /usr/bin/perl ./directv.pl and tell me what the output is?
[02:26] <novice_geek> It outputs "Usage: ./directv.pl command ...
[02:26] <novice_geek> " and then lists all of the commands.
[02:27] <dashcloud> did you set the script to your correct box?
[02:27] <dashcloud> (inside the script)
[02:28] <novice_geek> It's set to D10-200
[02:29] <dashcloud> okay- can you run it with a command?
[02:30] <novice_geek> If I try "perl ./directv.pl setup_channel 501", it still returns "getattr: Input/output error"
[02:31] <dashcloud> can you try a different, non-channel change command?
[02:33] <novice_geek> I tried show, reboot, on, and off.  They all gave that same error.
[02:37] <dashcloud> can you bring up the user management dialog, and add yourself to the serial group? (create the group if it doesn't exist)
[02:40] <novice_geek> The group doesn't exist, so I added it and added myself to the group
[02:56] <dashcloud> I just checked my box downstairs, and it works just fine- I don't bother with a setup_channel thing, but that shouldn't matter
[03:01] <mustangg1> Question: Is there any way to get the video to properly output to a different X session? ie: instead of session 0, to session 1 .. relating to xinerama/mplayer and twinhead nvidia  ..
[03:37] <Hoody47> Hello, I have a problem with diskless client setup.  When I add the diskless server role from the control centre the installer hangs at "enabling overlay directory for mythbuntu-diskless.
[04:26] <stegel> hmm, got hdmi audio working in vlc...but can't seem to get it to play in myth...anyone with experience here?
[04:44] <MrSmurfing> I have a serial ir blaster set up to change channels on my directv set top box. I configured it in mythbuntu control center... but it's not working. I'm not getting any errors when I try irsend -d /dev/lircd SEND_ONCE DIRECTTV power
[04:45] <MrSmurfing> Is that the correct device? It's plugged into the serial port.
[04:48] <MrSmurfing> If I change the transmitter type, do I have to restart anything before I try to transmit again?
[05:08] <jordilerelere> hi
[06:07] <tritium> superm1: trying to set the mythweb access password
[06:10] <tritium> superm1: the MySQL tweaks, XFS defrag, and mythtv database optimization/repair settings don't take effect on the first few attempts to set them
[06:10] <tritium> superm1: also, the MySQL server information remains greyed-out
[06:11] <tritium> Note that the installer is buggy too, in that it offers you the option to set the mythweb and mysql passwords, neither of which get set properly
[06:16] <jordilerelere> hi somebody out there knows how can I tell mythtv to start recording a program 20 minutes before EPG shedules it?
[06:16] <jordilerelere> thanks
[06:17] <tritium> jordilerelere: that is an option you can set in mythweb, and possibly also if you schedule via the program guide
[06:19] <jordilerelere> ive tried to search it but no luck
[06:19] <jordilerelere> the idea is that when i shedule a recording
[06:19] <jordilerelere> on web interface
[06:20] <jordilerelere> it have alot of options lots of them like chyphered
[06:20] <jordilerelere> htankds
[06:20] <jordilerelere> there is a button
[06:20] <jordilerelere> avancades opcions
[06:21] <tritium> jordilerelere: yes, you need to unhide the Advanced Options
[06:21] <jordilerelere> here i can say it to start before
[06:21] <tritium> Then, enter "20" after "Start Early:"
[06:21] <jordilerelere> can i make something like default recording before time somewere els
[06:22] <tritium> jordilerelere: yes, somewhere in the mythtv setup that setting resides
[06:22] <jordilerelere> the problem was all that recype-long and all things that i didnt understand.. feared me a bit
[06:24] <jordilerelere> DefaultEndOffset
[06:24] <jordilerelere> DefaultStartOffset
[06:24] <jordilerelere> could be this?
[06:24] <tritium> yes
[06:24] <jordilerelere> i''been searching
[06:25] <jordilerelere> but today this options have pooped out easier than the other attempts
[06:25] <jordilerelere> thanks alot!
[06:26] <tritium> sure, jordilerelere.  Good luck.  :)
[06:37] <Hoody47> Hello, I have a problem with diskless client setup.  When I add the diskless server role from the control centre the installer hangs at "enabling overlay directory for mythbuntu-diskless.
[06:46] <tritium> I've noticed on 8.10 that xine and mplayer can't find my DVB card.  Later, when installing dvb-utils, I see a ton of errors when dvb-utils is being setup where mknod and makedev fail
[06:47] <tritium> just a few lines from that:
[06:47] <tritium> udev active, devices will be created in /dev/.static/dev/
[06:47] <tritium> mkdir: cannot create directory `dvb': Read-only file system
[06:47] <tritium> mkdir: cannot create directory `dvb': Read-only file system
[06:47] <tritium> mknod: `dvb/adapter0/video0-': No such file or directory
[06:47] <tritium> makedev dvb/adapter0/video0 c 212 0 root video 0660: failed
[06:50] <tritium> I suspect this is why xine and vlc can't find my dvb device.  I'm not sure how mythtv is working with it, but it is.
[07:01] <tritium> I had no trouble using my DVB card with xine and VLC in 8.04.  What has changed in 8.10?
[07:02] <tritium> Here's a URL of the errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103400/
[07:19] <tritium> Perhaps another reinstall...Maybe third time's a charm.
[07:24] <oobe> tritium, its possible hal is misconfiguring your dvb card
[07:25] <tritium> oobe: it has worked fine for several releases.  I wonder what might have changed for 8.10
[07:26] <oobe> 8.10 uses hal to configure xorg devices as of 8.10 and hal somtimes accindentally made my tuner remote reciever a pointing device
[07:26] <tritium> hmm
[07:26] <oobe> which prevented my remote from working at all
[07:27] <tritium> Which card/remote?
[07:28] <tritium> My DViCO card has an IR receiver that is supported by an i2c driver, and it ends up being /dev/input/event6
[07:29] <oobe> hmm thats the same card
[07:29] <oobe> anyway the device dvb part worked fine
[07:30] <oobe> ls /dev/dvb
[07:30] <oobe> are you using the dvico dual 4 tuner
[07:30] <tritium> I have the Fusion HDTV5 RT/Gold
[07:30] <oobe> ok i dont know that one
[07:30] <oobe> are you using the stock kernel
[07:31] <tritium> Yes
[07:31] <tritium> 2.6.27-9-generic
[07:32] <oobe> have you checked dmesg
[07:32] <oobe> dmesg | grep DViCO
[07:32] <tritium> The card works fine with mythtv
[07:32] <oobe> dmesg | grep dvb
[07:32] <tritium> And there are entries for it in /dev/dvb/adapter0/
[07:32] <tritium> But, for some reason, xine and VLC crap out on it.
[07:33] <oobe> maybe you need firmware
[07:33] <oobe> anyway you should check dmesg
[07:33] <tritium> If that were the case, I'd expect it not to work with myth.
[07:34] <oobe> so it does work with some software only xine
[07:34] <tritium> And, vlc and xine complain about "No DVB input device found."
[07:34] <oobe> oh ok
[07:34] <oobe> sorry i misunderstood
[07:34] <tritium> I completely regret wiping out my working 8.04 install.
[07:35] <oobe> yeah i backed up my 8.04 install before upgrading to 8.10
[07:35] <oobe> then i ended up restoring i still using 8.04
[07:35] <strex> sup folks
[07:35] <tritium> oobe: Good call on that.  I've had nothing but trouble so far.
[07:36] <strex> so I just installed mythbuntu on a FE only box.. and I got a few questions on it's internal workings..
[07:36] <oobe> strex, just ask
[07:36] <oobe> tritium, i dont think i can help you with your xine and vlc prob nothing comes to mind
[07:37] <strex> coming from mythdora, it had a mythtv use, and gdm logged into x with that user. Is that still the case in mythbuntu?
[07:37] <tritium> No problem, oobe.  Thank you for your reply, and trying to help.
[07:37] <strex> or is it a different user.
[07:37] <oobe> unless mythtv is hogging the tuner
[07:37] <oobe> you can shutdown the backend and test xine
[07:37] <tritium> strex: on mythbuntu, it's the first user that you configure
[07:37] <tritium> oobe: don't think so, as I configured it to release the card when not in use in the backend setup
[07:38] <tritium> I'll double-check that, though.
[07:43] <tritium> oobe: that _was_ the issue.  I'll have to double-check the capture card settings.
[07:48] <oobe> cool glad i could help
[07:53] <tritium> Strange, it was configured as I expected in the backend to release the card when not in use.
[07:55] <tritium> (Open DVB card on demand -- This option makes the backend dvb-recorder only open the card when it is actually in-use, leaving it free fro other programs at other times.)
[08:10] <strex> tritium: so in my situation, my first user is 'strex' so can I set mythfrontend to launch when I first login instead of xfce, or any other gui for that matter, besides like ratpoison (so I can give focus to mythfrontend).
[08:11] <tritium> strex: not exactly.  strex will be logged into an xfce session, and then the frontend will auto-start
[08:12] <strex> tritium: ok, so how would I configure the mythfrontend to autostart.
[08:13] <tritium> strex: outside of xfce?  I'm not sure.
[08:13] <strex> Also need to enable auto login for my user then,
[08:13] <tritium> strex: mythbuntu is setup to auto login your user, and auto start mythfrontend.  You don't want that?
[08:14] <strex> tritium: no I do want that..
[08:14] <tritium> You said "instead of xfce"
[08:14] <strex> but apon boot, it didn't log me in, and after loggin in, it brought me to a desktop..
[08:15] <strex> sorry, xfce is a x manager, and so is ratpoison, I would prefer a less mem/cpu intensive x manager than xfce.. (such as ratpoison)
[08:16] <tritium> Sorry, I just stick with the default install, and it logs in my user automatically, and auto-starts mythfrontend.
[08:16] <tritium> I need to get to sleep.  Good luck.
[08:18] <strex> tritium: thanks for the help, shouldn't be a problem
[13:29] <Fafhrd_> hi all
 Hello Fafhrd_!
[13:29] <laga> hi all
[13:29] <laga> ah, so it's not a bot :)
[13:30] <Fafhrd_> is there a way of manually tweaking Myth's zoom modes (kbd "W" zooms)?
[13:30] <Fafhrd_> heh
[13:38] <Fafhrd_> to be more precise: I mean the zoom when watching LiveTV, not videos (PgUp/Dn, left/right arrows)
[14:15] <RobertLaptop> anyone here use commandir?
[14:18] <mac_wfh> I've never used mythtv before, and have 0 experience using it.  I can fair reasonably well in linux in general.  After installing what I believe is everything I need to run this, I don't know how to create a database.  I've had mysql on this box since I stood it up, but the myth install never asked me for the root password to create user or database, only which credentials it should use to connect to the same.
[14:18] <mac_wfh> any help figuring how to create the database would be greatly appreciated.   thanks in advance.
[14:22] <mac_athome> so to sum it up, (and have at least one line with my changed nick) how do I create the mythtv user, and mythconverg database?
[14:29] <mac_athome> found it.  I had not installed mythtv-database.  Seems on that this would not be one of the 100+ packages it decided to install
[15:17] <willemb> Hi guys
[15:17] <willemb> I am not managing to get my tvout working on either of the 2 cards I tried
[15:17] <willemb> using mythbuntu 8.10
[15:18] <willemb> is it worth trying, or am I guaranteed to fail.
[15:18] <willemb> trying a geforce 4mx and a radeon 9600
[15:18] <willemb> with a crt tv with s-video
[15:31] <superm1> tritium, please be sure to file bugs including the versions of MCC you are using for these issues
[15:31] <superm1> tritium, and the mysql information being greyed out is intended on master backend installs
[15:32] <superm1> also need detailed bug reports on the situation in the installer that causes mythweb or mysql passwords to be set wrong
[17:03] <gregL> superm1: I installed just last night..I had no problems with anything...This was a fresh install..Mythweb and mysql passwords were set right on my setup...Just thought you would like to know...Thanks for the effort....
[17:44] <superm1> gregL, great thanks.  tritium see that's why it's very important to provide all aspects of the install questions, there are tons of corner case bugs where items input into the installer can affect other items, but people need to report them for them to get fixed
[17:49] <MythbuntuGuest64> hello folks. I have set my mythfrontend "Screen Settings->Display on screen" = 1 to match my second X session where the output is to a tv but get no video output from mplayer.
[18:49] <MythbuntuGuest64> so any ideas on getting some output from mplayer to my X screen?
[18:53] <MrSmurfing> Anyone know how I can make only the channels that I actually receive show up in the mythtv guide? I tried removing them and adding them in the mythtv backend setup, but it doesn't effect the list on the guide on the mythfrontend
[19:10] <phunyguy> hey folks, I was told to come in here and ask about the latest mythtv bugfix package...
[19:12] <phunyguy> i need this: r19222 or higher of 0.21-fixes
[19:12] <phunyguy> (according to #mythtv-users)
[19:20] <strex> need some lirc help, luckly it's almost there. (new to mythbuntu)
[19:20] <strex> so I'm using iguanaIR, the driver's working fine. Lircd is started, and ircat reports valid keys.
[19:20] <strex> also running 'irw mythtv' works also..
[19:21] <strex> but none of then are being used my mythtv in mythbuntu (gui).
[19:27] <phunyguy> hmmm
[19:28] <phunyguy> i had this same issue
[19:28] <phunyguy> but i have since reinstalled and forgot what i did
[19:28] <phunyguy> :-/
[19:32] <phunyguy> i do know that some docs led me in the wrong direction
[19:32] <phunyguy> there is a different config
[19:33] <will> is there anyway to edit/add/change the streams without going into the GUI?
[19:36] <tgm4883> phunyguy, you need to activate weekly builds http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[19:37] <tgm4883> will, nobody knows what you are talking about
[19:38] <will> the streams section of myth where it shows like shoutcast streams
[19:38] <will> youtube and what not
[19:38] <tgm4883> ok
[19:38] <tgm4883> you could manually edit the db I suppose, other than that, the frontend gui is the only way I know of
[19:39] <will> ok
[19:39] <will> is that something i could do on my laptop if i put in the live cd?
[19:40] <tgm4883> IIRC, yes
[19:40] <will> ok thanks.
[19:40] <will> just dont want to bring up a keyboard and plug it into my mythbuntu box
[19:40] <will> though i guess it might end upb eing the easiest way
[19:41] <whoDat> getting this error on mythbuntu, any ideas? http://imagebin.ca/view/Ly3zAe.html
[19:41] <tgm4883> will, you could also use VLC
[19:43] <tgm4883> whoDat, no idea, what were you trying to do?
[19:44] <whoDat> installed uvcvideo for my webcam, rebooted and got that.
[19:44] <tgm4883> whoDat, yea I don't know.  Maybe try booting into rescue mode and uninstalling that
[19:45] <whoDat> does same thing in rescue mode
[19:49] <will> tgm: use VLC for what?
[19:51] <tgm4883> will, heh, my bad, I meant VNC
[19:51] <tgm4883> you could VNC into the machine and use your keyboard from another computer
[19:54] <will> tgm: good idea
[19:54] <will> this laptop i'm on runs ubuntu
[19:54] <will> maybe i can tunnel the frontend over ssh
[19:58] <will> darn. pre scaling theme images loads up
[19:59] <will> then the screen just stays blue
[20:04] <will> oh nice it worked
[20:04] <will> just had to wait a few moments
[20:18] <phunyguy> tgm4883, thanks!
[20:19] <tgm4883> phunyguy, np
[20:23] <MythbuntuGuest56> how can i stop videos from showing up on my sons myth, i have a server that has all of my movies stored on it, but there are some that i don't want him to have access to.
[20:25] <hads> The mythvideo database is currently common to all frontends.
[20:26] <superm1> i think the best you can do is have a different mount point for those videos that doesnt get mounted on his
[20:26] <MythbuntuGuest56> so there is no way to filter the content locally?
[20:26] <hads> Yeah, that's what I was about to say :)
[20:26] <hads> He will still see the video titles but won't be able to access the videos
[20:27] <MythbuntuGuest56> oh okay, what does the toggle browseable do
[20:28] <hads> You could probably do it with fancy permissions but mount points would be easier
[20:28] <hads> No idea about the browseable
[20:29] <MythbuntuGuest56> i cannot find anything about it
[20:29] <tgm4883> IIRC, browsable will show everything in the mythvideo directory(s), not what has been scanned into the db
[20:30] <superm1> yup
[20:30] <tritium> superm1: will do
[20:31] <superm1> thanks
[20:31] <tgm4883> there is a parental setting in mythvideo
[20:31] <tgm4883> although i've never used it before
[20:32] <hads> Yeah, i recall seeing it, not used it either though.
[20:34] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest56, i'd set the parental setting in the frontend.  It's under Setup > Setup > Media Settings > Video Settings > General Settings pages 6 and 7
[20:35] <tgm4883> not sure if that will show the videos or not, but it should stop them from being played
[20:36] <RobertLaptop> Anyone here using commandir transmitter?
[20:38] <MythbuntuGuest56> i will try that thanks guys
[20:38] <hads> Seems to work
[20:59] <strex> anyone ever heard of this error: "Waited too log for fingbuffer pause.."?
[21:15] <whoDat> after i installed uvc video drivers,my hd-5500 is not recognized. anyone heard of this issue?
[21:55] <strex> so.. this is a fresh install, and I'm still kinda new to ubuntu, but what's up with not being able to login as root by default?
[21:56] <phunyguy>  5842 tty7     RLs+  22:33      \_ /usr/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -dpi 100 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7   <----  why does this kick up the cpu to 100% when trying to view program guide?
[21:58] <phunyguy> you have to change the root password
[21:58] <phunyguy> sudo passwd root
[21:58] <phunyguy> but
[21:58] <phunyguy> that is for your own protection
[22:02] <strex> phunyguy: overall I like ubuntu as an os, but I wish the install wizard had like a 'im not a noob' setting.
[22:03] <strex> and would enable more advanced setup options, like setting the root password
[22:04] <strex> Getting mount errors, when trying to mount an nfs path, any idea why?
[22:05] <laga> it's simply not necessary. use sudo.
[22:05] <strex> laga: umm yea it is,
[22:06] <strex> laga: that's like telling someone they can only ride in a car as a passanger, it's just not necessary to every drive yourself..
[22:12] <strex> well that's also kind of irritating, would would nfs-common not be installed by default.. seems pretty common for use with mythtv??
[22:12] <tgm4883> strex, thats not exactly the same, but since you said it, if you always have a driver, then it's not necessary to drive yourself
[22:14] <strex> tgm4883: I agree it's not the same, I guess overall it would be nice if the installer wasn't so lite and friendly, and had an initial option at the start of install that said: "1. I'm new to linux, 2. I'm not a linux n00b".
[22:15] <tgm4883> strex, is there something you can do with the root account that you cannot do with sudo?
[22:15] <Shadow___X> anyone here fix a portmap problem
[22:15] <Shadow___X> or know how to fix one
[22:16] <Shadow___X> dkpg --configure -a does not fix the problem
[22:16] <Shadow___X> the problem when seeting up portmap is not a symlink /etc/rc2.d/S18portmap
[22:16] <strex> tgm4883: no, but when you have used *nix for 10+ years and are suddenly told you can't login as root by default it's kind frustrating (it's not a sudo config change, that can be made).
[22:17] <Shadow___X> dangling symlink /etc/rc2.d/S18portmap
[22:17] <Shadow___X> not a symlink /etc/rcS.d/S43portmap
[22:17] <strex> Shadow___X: so.. what is the actual problem?
[22:18] <tgm4883> strex, you should download the advanced user ISO then
[22:18] <Shadow___X> it wont let me set it up strex
[22:18] <Shadow___X> because of the symlink issues
[22:19] <strex> tgm4883: didn't know there was such an option. (I got my iso from the mythbuntu site, not the regular ubuntu one).
[22:19] <tgm4883> strex, http://www.debian.org/CD/
[22:19] <tgm4883> theres also LFS
[22:19] <strex> tgm4883: thanks, I'll know that for next time.
[22:22] <tgm4883> strex, you could also use sudo su -
[22:22] <Shadow___X> any ideas to fix the portmap issue :(
[22:22] <Shadow___X> should i delete the symlinked files
[22:38] <hads> tgm4883: sudo -i
[22:57] <Shadow___X> http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6010/screenshot02tx5.png
[22:58] <Shadow___X> thats what my problem looks like
[23:07] <RobertLaptop> Has anyone here been able to setup commandir under 8.10?
[23:13] <superm1> strex, or just *set* a root password after install is done.  "sudo passwd root"
[23:13] <superm1> problem solved, you've got your root password
[23:13] <superm1> the more common case is that people dont want to set one
[23:23] <hads> And pretty much every case is they don't need one.
[23:26] <RobertLaptop> Yea if you really need to log in as root good old "sudo su -" to the rescue?
[23:27] <superm1> yeah
[23:27] <superm1> this argument has replayed in octagons around the world countful times
[23:27] <hads> RobertLaptop: sudo -i
[23:29] <RobertLaptop> hads that saves a few char.