[01:31] <mneptok> omg. a Riva TNT.
[01:32] <pochu> a Riva TNT2 64 :/
[01:33] <mneptok> the Diamond Viper V550 was a TNT card. not even TNT2.
[01:46] <rbs-tito> http://www.pastebin.ca/577585 Could someone take a look at this? The objective is to add a trailing slash to Firefox bookmarks if there isn't one already, the code starting from line 2 is mine.
[01:47] <rbs-tito> For bug 120720
[01:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120720 in firefox "Bookmark image icons" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120720
[01:58] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: congratulations!
[02:15] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: indeed, congrats
[02:15] <Burgundavia> hey jsgotangco
[02:15] <jsgotangco> hi
[02:15] <bhale> hi LaserJock, jsgotangco Burgundavia
[02:16] <bhale> duderinos!
[02:16] <jsgotangco> hehe
[02:18] <Burgundavia> hey bhale
[03:10] <LaserJock> thank jsgotangco and Burgundavia
[03:20] <bryce> welcome aboard LaserJock :-)
[03:20] <Hobbsee> where's he boarding now?
[06:07] <manchicken> Any packagers in the house?
[06:07] <RAOF> Well, yes.
[06:07] <RAOF> Although that introduction suggests that #ubuntu-motu will be a more appropriate forum for whatever it is you actually want to ask :)
[06:08] <manchicken> Well, I'm a developer, and need I'm just needing someone to tell me where to put additional missing dependencies on packages?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> manchicken: what's up?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> RAOF: he writes adept and such
[06:08] <Hobbsee> or cowrites it
[06:09] <manchicken> Hobbsee: tagcoll isn't in the adept deps.  Trying to figure out how to save someone the trouble.
[06:09] <RAOF> Ah, that makes more sense.  Sorry manchicken :)
[06:09] <manchicken> RAOF: Not a problem at all :)
[06:09] <manchicken> RAOF: If I was trying to package--which I'm not :)--your answer would have been perfect :)
[06:09] <manchicken> And spot on.
[06:10] <Hobbsee> manchicken: as in, how to add the build dep?
[06:10] <manchicken> yup :)
[06:10] <Hobbsee> in debian/control
[06:10] <manchicken> And where's the package search engine thingy that Riddell always uses when I scream that I'm missing a lib and don't know what package it is in?
[06:10] <manchicken> I really should bookmark that.
[06:11] <Hobbsee> apt-cache search foo?
[06:11] <Hobbsee> packages.ubuntu.com ?
[06:11] <StevenK> apt-file search <file> ?
[06:12] <RAOF> ^^^ is right, as long as you've built the apt-file database.
[06:13] <manchicken> didn't know about apt-file
[06:13] <manchicken> That's a nice one to know.
[06:14] <RAOF> Yes.  It's like a supercharged "dpkg -S" :)
[06:14] <manchicken> Ah.h
[06:15] <RAOF> Which, if you're not familiar with it, will search your currently installed packages to see which packages own files you're interested in.
[06:24] <manchicken> Yeah, I know that one.
[06:24] <manchicken> It's the other way around I didn't know :)
[06:24] <RAOF> Yeah, apt-file is really useful :)
[06:24] <manchicken> I know the code, but still figuring out a lot of the packaging quirks.
[06:25] <manchicken> It's ironic that many of the packagers regard the hackers as cleverer, while many of the hackers regard the packagers in the same fashion.
[06:28] <fabbione> morning
[06:28] <Hobbsee> morning fabbione!
[06:31] <manchicken> Okay, so libtdb1 comes with a .so, but not the .la that libtool insists on making it use.  Is this a new thing that we're not putting .la's in packages anymore?
[06:31] <Fujitsu> libtdb-dev?
[06:32] <RAOF> I thought we *never* put .la's in packages?
[08:15] <pitti> Good morning
[08:15] <LaserJock> morning pitti
[08:17] <Hobbsee> morning pitti!
[08:18] <StevenK> pitti: Morning! The libiw28 transition should be done now, too.
[08:22] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:23] <StevenK> Funnily enough, my nick hilight didn't pick that up.
[08:30] <pitti> StevenK: only libsnmp9 reverse dependency left is snmptrapfmt
[08:31] <pitti> StevenK: that's small enough now to kick it out of the archive
[08:31] <StevenK> Hum? I so uploaded that one.
[08:31] <StevenK> In fact, I remember doing it.
[08:31] <StevenK> pitti: Give me a few seconds, I'm just sponsoring nagios-plugins which spuriously Build-Depends on libsnmp-dev
[08:31] <pitti> snmptrapfmt | 1.11build1 | gutsy/universe | source, amd64, i386, ia64, powerpc, sparc
[08:31] <pitti> and it built everywhere, too
[08:32] <pitti> Hobbsee: last libiw28 rev dep: xsupplicant
[08:33] <StevenK> pitti: xsupplicant is in Accepted
[08:33] <Hobbsee> ?
[08:33] <pitti> Depends: snmpd, libsnmp9
[08:33] <StevenK> Or should be
[08:33] <pitti> StevenK: that almost looks like a manually set dependency, not from dh_shlibdeps
[08:34] <StevenK> pitti: Is that snmptrapfmt?
[08:34] <pitti> StevenK: yes
[08:34] <crimsun> Depends: snmpd, libsnmp9
[08:34] <StevenK> pitti: Right. I shall prepare 1) a -1ubuntu1 upload, and 2) a sharp knife to stab the maintainer in the face with.
[08:35] <pitti> StevenK: for 2), a sharp patch and bug report might be more efficient :)
[08:35] <pitti> StevenK: xsupplicant> ah, indeed
[08:35] <Hobbsee> pitti: never underestimate the use of sharp knives
[08:36] <StevenK> Oh, my god!
[08:36] <StevenK> Conflicts: none
[08:36] <StevenK> Replaces: none
[08:36] <StevenK> EAT FLAMING DEATH, Jochen Friedrich!
[08:36] <pitti> lol
[08:37] <pitti> StevenK: well, just fix it and point him to the MoM output or so
[08:37] <pitti> too bad that sync-source doesn't work in the other direction :-P
[08:37] <StevenK> I shall do so.
[08:37] <StevenK> pitti: Heh, now that would be cool.
[08:45] <StevenK> Hrm. Now libsnmp-dev doesn't turn up in shlibs:Depends
[08:53] <pitti> StevenK: FYI, /cruft/ on people updated
[08:53] <pitti> StevenK: why should -dev turn up there?
[08:54] <pitti> LaserJock: congrats to your -core-dev badge!
[08:54] <StevenK> Er, sorry. libsnmp at all
[08:55] <StevenK> Just digging, it doesn't even link against libsnmp
[08:57] <StevenK> Because some bright spark commented out the LIBS directive in the upstream Makefile.
[08:57] <StevenK> If I find this guy ...
[09:01] <StevenK> Better.  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.5-5), libsnmp10 (>= 5.3.1), snmpd
[09:01] <pitti> yay
[09:03] <StevenK> pitti: Okay, snmptrapfmt uploaded.
[09:12] <hunger> Any progress on making apt and networkmanager installable again on gutsy?
[09:13] <pitti> hunger: n-m-applet still needs a fix before it can pass NEW
[09:13] <pitti> hunger: Tonio wanted to upload it today
[09:15] <dholbach> good morning
[09:20] <pitti> mjg59: does http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8036236/laptop-mode-tools_1.34-1ubuntu1.debdiff look sensible to you?
[09:30] <carlos> segfault: hi, around?
[09:35] <pitti> seb128: are you using keescook's greasemonkey script for stock bug replies? where can I find them?
[09:38] <seb128> pitti: no, I'm not, I've the basic version I'm using since the Oslo sprint
[09:38] <seb128> dunno where he has his scripts, that's something I've planned to ask as well ;)
[09:38] <pitti> seb128: ah, ok; I gave greasemonkey another try, and this time it actually works (not firefox-greasemonkey package, but getting it from upstream)
[09:38] <seb128> pitti: http://outflux.net/greasemonkey
[09:39] <pitti> ah, I looked on people
[09:41] <Hobbsee> pitti: seb128 a stupid question..but how does one actually use it?
[09:42] <pitti> Hobbsee: as I said, the package doesn't work; Extras -> Addons -> Download -> Greasemonkey -> restart ffox
[09:42] <dholbach> install greasemonkey extension for your browser, install the script, go :)
[09:42] <pitti> Hobbsee: I use right-click on a .user.js, 'view source', if I like it, click the install button
[09:42] <seb128> Hobbsee: in epiphany-browser right click on the .js and install
[09:42] <pitti> voila
[09:42] <seb128> dunno about firefox
[09:42] <Hobbsee> oh, forgot to restart the browser
[09:43] <pitti> wow, http://outflux.net/greasemonkey/lp_stockreplies.user.js kicks ass
[09:43] <pitti> keescook: ^ *hug*
[09:43] <Hobbsee> pitti: seb128 could figure out how to install it - just not use it.
[09:43] <seb128> ;)
[09:44] <seb128> Hobbsee: open a launchpad bug page
[09:44] <pitti> seb128: before I used the hardcoded reply version, but this one is so great
[09:44] <seb128> it adds control you can use on the page
[09:44] <seb128> pitti: right
[09:44] <Hobbsee> seb128: wah.  why do i see no control?
[09:45] <Hobbsee> or am i looking for the wrong thing, or what?
[09:47] <seb128> Hobbsee: sec
[09:48] <Hobbsee> oh wait.  err, are the stock replies on the bug page already there?
[09:48] <seb128> no
[09:48] <Hobbsee> didnt think so
[09:49] <Hobbsee> didnt realise you couldn't just hit "add a comment"
[09:50] <dholbach> Hobbsee: did you try to change the state of the bug?
[09:50] <Hobbsee> dholbach: tryng now
[09:50] <seb128> the version from kees seems to do nothing
[09:52] <Hobbsee> that's...what i'm finding
[09:52] <Hobbsee> it'll add the comment, but wont change anything else
[09:52] <seb128> you should have entries and button to add actions
[09:52] <Hobbsee> found them.  added them.  still doesnt seem to do anything
[09:53] <Hobbsee> ahhh, now it seems to wokr
[09:56] <pitti> seb128: hmm, I cannot get keescook's script to set the bug status; does that work for you?
[09:56] <Hobbsee> pitti: it's case sensitive
[09:56] <pitti> I typed 'Fix Released', doesn't work
[09:56] <Hobbsee> dunno what "name" actually does, though
[09:56] <seb128> pitti: no, it doesn't work at all for me, doesn't display any widget
[09:57] <pitti> Hobbsee: it's the name of the reply, that will appear between the []
[09:57] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[09:57] <Hobbsee> ohhh, right.
[09:57] <Hobbsee> yes
[09:59] <Hobbsee> pitti: it's wokring fine here
[09:59] <pitti> Fix+Released and Fix%20Released don't work either
[09:59] <Hobbsee> !responses
[09:59] <ubotu> response is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[09:59] <Hobbsee> it should just be Fix Released, no quotes or anything
[09:59] <pitti> Hobbsee: ah, I additionally gave it an assignee and priority, it works now
[10:00] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:04] <Hobbsee> okay, that's very cool
[10:04] <Hobbsee> thanks keescook :)
[10:05] <Hobbsee> hiya Tonio_
[10:06] <seb128> firefox is the suck
[10:06] <Tonio_> hey Hobbsee
[10:06] <seb128> could it make any harder to install greasmonkey? ;)
[10:07] <Hobbsee> seb128: you mean the ubuntu version of firefox sucks.
[10:07] <seb128> no, I mean the software sucks when you are used to something easy to use like epiphany
[10:07] <seb128> I'm trying to install greasmonkey for 5 min now
[10:07] <Hobbsee> seb128: it just works in vanilla firefox
[10:08] <seb128> "vanilla" like "non Ubuntu"?
[10:08] <carlos> seb128: isn't it in Ubuntu already?
[10:08] <Hobbsee> seb128: yes.
[10:08] <carlos> seb128: at least I show up in apt-cache search
[10:08] <carlos> s/I/It/
[10:09] <seb128> carlos: that version is outdated and buggy
[10:09] <carlos> seb128: maybe you should ask an Ubuntu developer to update it... they usually are in this channel
[10:10] <seb128> carlos: well, I don't really care about the package, I'm trying to use the software UI atm :p
[10:10] <seb128> I managed to install it
[10:10] <seb128> now I have an "install" button when opening the .js
[10:10] <seb128> clicking on it does nothing though
[10:10] <seb128> I'm wondering if it does install and gives no feedback
[10:10] <seb128> or doesn't install
[10:11] <Hobbsee> seb128: i believe that ubuntu has disabled the auto-updater, which buggers all this stuff up
[10:11] <pitti> hi Tonio_
[10:11] <Hobbsee> with the mozilla binaries, it all works perfectly.  *shrugs*
[10:12] <pitti> seb128: when I click on the install button, the yellow bar disappears and it's installed
[10:12] <seb128> pitti: k, so it's buggy here
[10:12] <pitti> and that's the standard ubuntu ffox
[10:12] <seb128> clicking on install doesn't make the bar disappears
[10:12] <seb128> ah, it worked after reloading the page
[10:13] <Tonio_> pitti: will upload np-applet with the licence in the tarball in a moment
[10:13] <Tonio_> pitti: finally, should be okay this time :)
[10:13] <pitti> Tonio_: yay
[11:30] <seb128> Tonio_: your debian/copyright is not really exact
[11:30] <seb128> src/wso-leap.c:
[11:30] <seb128>     (C) Copyright 2006 Thiago Jung Bauermann<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:30] <seb128> there is also "src/nm-gconf-wso-leap.c: * (C) Copyright 2006 Thiago Jung Bauermann<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:31] <seb128> and the corresponding .h
[11:31] <seb128> same for src/nm-gconf-wso-wpa-eap.c which is under the Novell copyright
[11:31] <seb128> and the .h
[11:32] <seb128> Tonio_: src/applet.c has also "(C) Copyright 2001, 2002 Free Software Foundation"
[11:33] <seb128> Tonio_: src/menu-items.c also "This also uses code from eel-vfs-extentions available under the LG"
[11:34] <seb128> Tonio_: src/menu-items.c also "This also uses code from eel-vfs-extentions available under the LGPL"
[11:44] <asac> pitti: seb128: anyone can help and NEW/review firefox-granparadiso ?
[11:45] <pitti> if me: on Friday
[11:45] <StevenK> Ohh, firefox 3
[11:45] <asac> yeah :)
[11:46] <StevenK> Does that have a hope in hell of getting backported to Feisty?
[11:46] <Kmos> asac: it will fix most of the LP bugs ?
[11:46] <asac> StevenK: we have -trunk builds in mozillateam preview archive
[11:46] <asac> !mozillatest
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozillatest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <asac> hmm
[11:46] <asac> !moztest
[11:46] <ubotu> The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[11:47] <asac> :)
[11:47] <Kmos> some friend mine is reporting this from gutsy
[11:47] <Kmos> emdebian-tools (0.2.0) ...
[11:47] <Kmos> Unable to determine apt-cache policy for Debian main! at /var/lib/dpkg/info/emdebian-tools.postinst line 132.
[11:47] <Kmos> trying to install it from upgrade
[11:48] <Kmos> status error: 255
[11:50] <Hobbsee> !mozillatest is <alias> moztest
[11:50] <Hobbsee> !mozillatest is <alias>moztest
[11:50] <Hobbsee> !mozillatest
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozillatest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <Hobbsee> !mozillatest is <alias>moztest
[11:50] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: !moztest
[11:51] <gnomefreak> but i think i kept it in -mozillateam channel but that is changable
[11:51] <Chipzz> gnomefreak: I think she's trying to make an alias for it, not ask what it means ;)
[11:51] <asac> gnomefreak: mozdtest did work here (look a few lines above)
[11:51] <Hobbsee> there we go.
[11:52] <Hobbsee> !mozillatest | asac
[11:52] <ubotu> asac: The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[11:52] <gnomefreak> ah it did :)
[11:52] <asac> Hobbsee: great ;)
[11:52] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: bot's obviously changed a bit since i last added factoids.   it's misbehaving.
[11:52] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: seems you have to say foo is bar, no foo is <alias> bling (x2), instead of just going foo is <alias> bling
[11:53] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[11:53] <gnomefreak> that is odd
[11:53] <Hobbsee> yes
[11:55] <Tonio_> seb128: okay I'll grep for the copyright in the code and indicate them file by file :)
[11:56] <seb128> Tonio_: thanks ;)
[12:46] <Kmos> any kernel developer ?
[12:46] <Kmos> bug 120677
[12:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120677 in linux-source-2.6.20 "uuid is never the same with w810i phone" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120677
[12:46] <Hobbsee> Kmos: doubt benc is awake yet
[12:46] <Kmos> :(
[01:08] <Kmos> bug 41809
[01:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 41809 in alsa-driver "PCM level is reset to 0 after every reboot" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/41809
[01:09] <carlos> pitti: hi, around?
[01:09] <mjg59> Doesn't sound like an alsa-driver issue
[01:10] <pitti> carlos: hi
[01:10] <carlos> pitti: hi, we have a user on #ubuntu-translators complaining about Persian not being offered as a language to install on install time
[01:12] <pitti> carlos: hm, we have language-pack-fa, so this is rather an installer problem? evand?
[01:13] <carlos> pitti: ok, got more info
[01:13] <carlos> seems like the installer is not in Persian with all releases after Dapper
[01:13] <StevenK> Neat
[01:16] <carlos> pitti: ok, the problem is with liveCD, I guess we are not including Persian language pack with liveCD, are we?
[01:17] <pitti> carlos: we don't, but that's not the problem (it can be installed off the network)
[01:17] <pitti> carlos: I suspect there is a problem with supporting the fonts or so; cjwatson and/or evand might know
[01:17] <carlos> pitti: the problem he complains about is that they don't get the chance to select Persian
[01:17] <pitti> right, I understand
[01:17] <carlos> pitti: should I redirect them to debian-installer package in launchpad to file a bug?
[01:20] <carlos> pitti: he says that he gets the option to install the language pack (which confuses me because I think he said first he was not able to...)
[01:21] <pitti> carlos: ubiquity rather, I'd say
[01:21] <carlos> pitti: so the only thing I can think on is that debian-installer is not including Persian translation (this is outside language packs)
[01:22] <carlos> pitti: hmm, right, having its translations included in debian-installer confused me :-P
[01:22] <mjg59> carlos: Or that there's a fonts issue
[01:23] <carlos> ok, then I will ask him to file a bug against ubiquity
[01:23] <carlos> so he can talk directly with someone that could fix the problem and understand it better :-)
[01:33] <Kmos> BenC: are you there?
[01:33] <BenC> Kmos: yes, I got your msg from yesterday
[01:33] <Kmos> from the PCM level reset to 0 ?
[01:33] <Kmos> bug 41809
[01:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 41809 in alsa-driver "PCM level is reset to 0 after every reboot" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/41809
[01:35] <BenC> ubotu: sounds more like a alsa userspace bug
[01:35] <BenC> shit
[01:35] <BenC> Kmos: ^^
[01:36] <Kmos> BenC: that's a package ?
[01:37] <BenC> Kmos: alsa-base
[01:37] <Kmos> alsa-base points to alsa-driver
[01:37] <Kmos> :)
[01:38] <BenC> then try alsa-utils
[01:38] <BenC> either way, it's userspace that saves and restores the sound state
[01:38] <Kmos> changed :)
[01:38] <Kmos> thx
[01:39] <BenC> np
[01:40] <Kmos> i subscribed crimsun to the bug
[01:41] <Kmos> BenC: kernel-wedge needs update from debian
[01:41] <Kmos> 2.37 is out
[01:42] <BenC> it'll get done, but it's not urgent
[01:42] <BenC> Kmos: sub ubuntu-audio instead
[01:42] <BenC> err, I mean assign to ubuntu-audio
[01:47] <Kmos> BenC: ok
[01:55] <cypherbios> Hi mvo. Would you know what packages/daemon is the responsible for showing this dialog when a ubuntu medium is inserted in the drive? http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5500/screenshotsoftwarepackazz2.png
[01:55] <Kmos> BenC: this one is for you.. i think :) bug 120677
[01:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120677 in linux-source-2.6.20 "uuid is never the same with w810i phone" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120677
[01:55] <mvo> cypherbios: that one is update-notifier
[01:57] <cypherbios> mvo: sounds good. Would it accept a 'plugin' for showing the same dialog when another media (not Ubuntu specific) with packages is inserted?
[01:58] <cypherbios> mvo: In this case I mean a media created with aptoncd, which is perfectly apt-gettable
[01:58] <mvo> cypherbios: yes, as long as its suffiently different (the dialog). are you aware of the 3rdparty CD support that we also have? not sure how useful that is in the context of aptoncd
[02:00] <cypherbios> mvo: software-properties are enough to add the media as apt source. But I would like, when a aptoncd media is inserted in the drive, it automatically prompts this dialog (or something like this) asking the user if he wants to add media as apt source
[02:01] <mvo> cypherbios: sure, that should not be very hard
[02:01] <cypherbios> mvo: just a way to automatize things, just like with a ubuntu media
[02:01] <BenC> Kmos: is that firewire UUID?
[02:02] <cypherbios> mvo: How can I (or we if you want) can make it real? Could you point me the right path?
[02:03] <cypherbios> mvo: what criteria is used to identify a ubuntu CD? the .disk/info file or the label of the CD/DVD?
[02:04] <mvo> cypherbios: please look at /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-cdrom-check and src/hal.c
[02:06] <Kmos> BenC: don't know.. i don't have reported the bug
[02:06] <Kmos> BenC: but I think it connects by usb
[02:08] <BenC> Kmos: nope, not a kernel bug...partition UUID is a userspace thing
[02:08] <Kmos> BenC: at good it says, it's a usb cable
[02:08] <Kmos> *good = google
[02:08] <Kmos> BenC: which package
[02:09] <Kmos> uuid - OSSP uuid
[02:09] <Kmos> ?
[02:09] <BenC> No idea..
[02:10] <Kmos> anyone here knows what handles uuid stuff ?
[02:10] <BenC> most likely it's a vfat partition...maybe the device is frequently changing it
[02:10] <BenC> Kmos: it could very well be the device is just dumb
[02:10] <Kmos> BenC: yeah
[02:11] <BenC> in which case the bug gets rejected based on the fact we can't fix stupid hw firmware
[02:12] <Kmos> reason: "The problem should be in w810i phone firmware..."
[02:12] <Kmos> it's ok ?
[02:15] <Kmos> BenC: done. rejected
[02:35] <Viper550> hello
[02:42] <Keybuk> Viper550: WAIT!
[02:43] <Hobbsee> Keybuk: no Viper550 for you!
[02:43] <Tonio_> seb128: you rejected latest nm-applet upload ?
[02:52] <seb128> Tonio_: no, I didn't look at it yet, doing it now
[02:54] <seb128> Tonio_: looks like it has been accepted, must be pitti
[02:57] <silvertip257> I've compiled busybox and would like to add openssh to it for a network tool/project ... I have trouble when I try to chroot to compile openssh
[02:59] <pitti> seb128: yep, just did it
[02:59] <seb128> Martinp23: you claimed the gnome-games tarballs some time ago, are you still working on it?
[02:59] <pitti> Tonio_: I rejected the old one and accepted the latest one
[03:00] <seb128> pitti: do you do some NEW (just to know if we need to organize to not do the same reviews) or just this one?
[03:00] <pitti> seb128: just this one, due to urgency
[03:00] <seb128> k
[03:00] <seb128> thanks for doing it ;)
[03:00] <pitti> seb128: I take an hour break now, playing some Wesnoth :)
[03:00] <pitti> np
[03:00] <Martinp23> seb128: Interesting, I just sent dholbach and email about that :-).  I'm busy with exams at the moment unfortunately, so if anyone does want to take them off me, I wouldn't be averse to that.  Sorry about this - real life is a pain :S
[03:00] <seb128> enjoy!
[03:01] <seb128> Martinp23: no problem, that's alright, if you are not working on them better to update the wiki though so you don't block other people who could do it
[03:01] <Martinp23> OK seb128 - will do.
[03:02] <seb128> thank you
[03:07] <Tonio_> pitti: ah ok
[05:25] <cypherbios> mvo: I made a little hack in src/hal.c and data/apt-cdrom-check to recognise an aptoncd medium. I've added the RES_APTONCD=4
[05:25] <cypherbios> mvo: Would you take a look and merge this little patch?
[05:27] <cypherbios> as well a case CD_WITHAPTONCD
[05:32] <Hobbsee> morning sabdfl
[05:32] <hunger> Anyone working on getting the apt stuff installable again?
[05:33] <pitti> hunger: what do you mean?
[05:33] <sabdfl> Hobbsee:
[05:33] <sabdfl> hiya
[05:33] <Hobbsee> heh.  just ban the enter key.
[05:33] <sabdfl> anybody able to point me at the image for the current default ubuntu usplash?
[05:34] <hunger> pitti: aptitude says that there is a new version of apt, synaptic, etc.
[05:35] <Hobbsee> sabdfl: is it usplash-theme-ubuntu ?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> i'm not positive, i dont run gnome
[05:35] <hunger> pitti: But to do so it wants to deinstall ubuntu-desktop... plus most of the stuff that depends on.
[05:35] <pitti>        apt | 0.7.2ubuntu2 |         gutsy | source, amd64, i386, powerpc
[05:35] <Hobbsee> er, in the source of
[05:36] <nrdb> I am using 2.14.3, when I view a directory with lots of .WMF files in it, the memory isn't freed when I quit Nautilus, is this a known problem, my 'Bug Report Tool' is functional
[05:38] <pitti> hunger: hm, I don't even have ubuntu-desktop, so I didn't notice
[05:45] <Hobbsee> exams are evil.
[05:58] <mikmorg> hello all
[05:59] <mikmorg> I have an issue in alsa, which is resolved as of 1.0.14. The latest deb packages for alsa, however, are 1.0.13. Is there a way I can press to have 1.0.14 packaged?
[06:00] <mikmorg> If anyone could assist me as to who I should discuss this with (I'm sure there is a more appropriate channel - possibly #alsa?), I would appreciate it.
[06:13] <cypherbios> mvo: ping
[06:14] <pitti> keescook: btw, your stock replies .user.js kicks ass! *big hug*
[06:14] <keescook> \o/
[06:14] <keescook> thanks!  I was just reading the backlog about it.  :)
[06:15] <keescook> did everyone get its use sorted?  I realize it's not the most intuitive design...
[06:15] <pitti> keescook: took me a while to get it going, but seems to work now; I still don't know why setting the bug status didn't work initially
[06:16] <keescook> If it was a brand new entry, the whole page needs to be reloaded.
[06:17] <keescook> I could fix that, but it requires some weird javascript dancing.  :P
[06:17] <pitti> keescook: would it be feasible to set the description in the normal description textarea instead of the very small input line?
[06:18] <pitti> keescook: I tried plenty of reloads, hmm
[06:18] <Riddell> enrico: I needed some changes for tagcoll1 to compile with gcc 4.3 http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu_01_gcc4.3.diff
[06:18] <keescook> pitti: I was trying to have a trade-off between space and code sanity, etc, but I agree, it's not correct as is.  I'll fix it.
[06:19] <keescook> or I'm happy to take a patch.  ;)
[06:19] <pitti> keescook: oh, not urgent
[06:20] <calc> Riddell: bug 15451
[06:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 15451 in openoffice.org "Kubuntu SMB issue with OpenOffice" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15451
[06:21] <calc> Riddell: any ideas about that issue, seems like a smb kioslave issue(?)
[06:21] <calc> Riddell: tried to reassign it to kubuntu-meta but i get integrity errors in launchpad, heh
[06:23] <enrico> Riddell: thanks
[06:23] <Riddell> calc: I suspect it's because in /usr/share/applications/ooo-writer.desktop etc we have X-KDE-Protocols=file,http,smb,ftp,webdav
[06:24] <Riddell> calc: I seem to remember someone telling me at the time that openoffice could do smb, presumably it can't
[06:24] <Riddell> calc: if you could remove smb from that line in the .desktop files that should fix it
[06:24] <calc> Riddell: it works with gnome smb somehow, not sure what it actually does
[06:24] <Riddell> hmm, curious
[06:24] <Riddell> maybe the URL format is different
[06:25] <Riddell> I'm sure openoffice won't do webdav:// URLs too
[06:25] <calc> the gnome places-network thing
[06:25] <calc> Riddell: hmm yea probably not
[06:25] <Riddell> calc: what's the URL format for a typical smb file on gnome?
[06:25] <calc> Riddell: it can open the file but locally only
[06:25] <calc> Riddell: no idea
[06:26] <calc> sorry i'm not much use on the details yet
[06:26] <calc> it says this when using the kde smb stuff
[06:26] <calc> ** Protocol "smb" is supported only partially. Local copy of the file will be created. **
[06:27] <sebbar> hi, will gutsy have slick-boot?
[06:27] <calc> i'll have to dig around and see what it is doing soon
[06:28] <exobuzz> from reading the bugs it seems not everyone is referring to the same problem.. with the kde file browser on openoffice, it has problems with kioslaves, but this is not the same problem as reported in the upstream bug listed
[06:30] <exobuzz> i always assumed its the way the file browser is "hacked" onto openoffice. There are some other strange things with it also.
[06:30] <exobuzz> its still better than the openoffice file requester though
[06:32] <exobuzz> personally, i still prefer "reqtools" on my amiga as a file chooser :D
[06:36] <calc> exobuzz: its a really old bug, apparently it used to break in different ways
[06:37] <calc> exobuzz: now it works fine under gnome but doesn't under kde, it works for reading but can't update the file
[06:52] <dholbach> siretart: do you know what the problem with bzr 0.17 and bzr-builddeb is?
[07:19] <DrFrasierCrane> hey, i have a stupid question..
[07:19] <DrFrasierCrane> is it possible to change gtk+ expander pixbuf used by default in ubuntu ?
[07:22] <mdomsch> what's the canonical way to know what version of Ubuntu is running presently?
[07:22] <mdomsch> s/running/installed/
[07:22] <mjg59> mdomsch: /etc/lsb_version
[07:22] <mjg59> Uh.
[07:22] <mjg59> /etc/lsb-release
[07:23] <mdomsch> mjg59, sweet, that'll work
[07:23] <mdomsch> does that get created at bootup, or at install time?
[07:23] <mdomsch> looks like install time
[07:23] <pitti> ogra: ltsp FTW! your blog sounds great
[07:24] <ogra> yeah
[07:24] <ogra> its a milestone :)
[07:27] <DrFrasierCrane> any gtk hackers ?
[07:28] <Treenaks> ogra: congratulations then :)
[07:28] <ogra> Treenaks, thanks :)
[07:29] <stgraber> ogra: I'll be able to test if my thin clients really boot <1 minute tomorrow afternoon :) Let's hope so
[07:32] <ogra> stgraber, the slowest one i have (the worst HW ever) makes it in 1:40 now, that one took nearly 4 min with feisty ...
[07:32] <stgraber> :)
[07:32] <ogra> usual times were around 90-110 secs with feisty though ...
[07:33] <stgraber> I'm already playing with xorg.conf-less Xorg on a USB HDD, that's just beautiful to have Xorg detects everything (even better than the previous auto-detection)
[07:33] <stgraber> and that + others improvment will for sure make some people happy here :)
[07:34] <ogra> yeah
[07:34] <ogra> keyboards are an issue though
[07:35] <ogra> no xorg.conf no keymaps setting ...
[07:35] <ogra> *keymap
[07:40] <mjg59> pitti: To be honest, I think laptop-mode-tools really isn't appropriate for our purposes
[07:40] <carlos> pitti: hi
[07:40] <carlos> pitti: are you uploading daily lang packs for Gutsy as we agreed?
[07:40] <mjg59> So I think the merge is absolutely fine, but I'd be tempted to replace it with something much simpler for the default install
[07:40] <carlos> pitti: we just got an email asking for that
[07:59] <pitti> carlos: not yet, I want to wait until a base update for tribe-2 and then reengineer the stuff for daily packs
[07:59] <pitti> carlos: (no time yet)
[07:59] <pitti> mjg59: ok
[07:59] <carlos> pitti: ok, could I give any date estimation  for that?
[08:00] <pitti> carlos: what about June 25th?
[08:02] <carlos> next Monday?
[08:02] <carlos> that's fine
[08:02] <carlos> pitti: does it mean I should do a full export on Monday?
[08:03] <pitti> carlos: Saturday or Sunday would be better IMHO, to have some breathing space
[08:05] <cypherbios> mvo: I made a little hack in src/hal.c and data/apt-cdrom-check to recognise an aptoncd medium. I've added the RES_APTONCD=4 as well a case CD_WITHAPTONCD
[08:06] <carlos> pitti: ok
[08:06] <carlos> will do it on Sunday
[08:28] <carlos> pitti: btw, what about your people.ubuntu.com repository? is it getting daily updates for gutsy? I think it's not...
[08:42] <LaserJock> anybody know who is handling mailing lists?
[08:47] <pitti> carlos: no, just the daily base updates
[08:47] <carlos> pitti: daily base updates?
[08:47] <carlos> pitti: I'm not doing daily base updates
[08:47] <pitti> carlos: I take the full tarballs, not the delta ones
[08:47] <pitti> right
[08:47] <carlos> ok
[08:47] <pitti> carlos: but you said the delta ones were way too big ATM
[08:47] <pitti> due to some unlucky KDE export or so
[08:48] <carlos> pitti: indeed
[08:49] <Riddell> LaserJock: it depends on the list
[08:49] <carlos> although I didn't know I should move back to full exports ;-)
[08:49] <pitti> carlos: for tribe-2 it's enough, I think
[08:50] <carlos> ok
[08:53] <segfault> carlos: wanted to talk with me?
[08:54] <carlos> segfault: yeah
[08:54] <carlos> segfault: I'm cleaning up all pending files from the translation import queue
[08:54] <carlos> segfault: and I saw an entry from you for Linbox
[08:55] <carlos> I need to know whether you are part of its development team or whether they agreed on you importing that into Launchpad
[08:55] <carlos> to accept it
[08:55] <carlos> You can see the import policy to know more details: https://help.launchpad.net/RosettaImportPolicy
[09:00] <LaserJock> Riddell: I got a couple new MOTU lists apparently
[09:01] <LaserJock> one of them really shouldn't be a MOTU list though
[09:04] <Riddell> LaserJock: ask in #canonical-sysadmin
[09:06] <Riddell> mvo: well adept compiles, but it can't open the apt database
[09:06] <mvo> *ick*
[09:06] <mvo> Riddell: what is the error message?
[09:07] <Riddell> mvo: "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in a terminal as root and see if it helps to resolve the problem."
[09:08] <mvo> Riddell: is everything in place so that I can compile it myself (ie did you upload the fixes for the missing .la files already?) - then I have a look
[09:09] <Riddell> mvo: yes, although not everything may be through to the archive yet, debtags I only just uploaded
[09:10] <zasf> pitti: Hi Martin
[09:10] <zasf> pitti: I forgot to mention something in my last email
[09:10] <segfault> carlos: humm, the linbox developers asked me to remove all linbox entries from LP
[09:11] <segfault> carlos: can you do that?
[09:11] <LaserJock> seb128: do you mind if I patch gnome-panel to not show About Ubuntu when About Edubuntu exists?
[09:12] <mvo> Riddell: ok, I check it out. maybe a recompile for libapt-front first helps?
[09:12] <carlos> segfault: no, I cannot
[09:12] <carlos> segfault: I can remove the translation request
[09:12] <Riddell> mvo: done that
[09:12] <mvo> :/
[09:12] <carlos> segfault: for its project entry you will need to request it on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[09:16] <segfault> carlos: humm, ok.. so please drop the translation request please
[09:16] <Daviey> segfault: out of interest; did they state why?
[09:16] <carlos> segfault: already done. Thanks for your input
[09:17] <segfault> daviey: well, they said they want to manage the translation themselves, but maybe because they were acquired by mandriva IIRC...
[09:18] <Daviey> They make a conversion from ms-office tool?
[09:18] <segfault> daviey: i dont think so
[09:22] <seb128> LaserJock: attach the patch in launchpad rather so we can comment on it
[09:23] <LaserJock> seb128: will do
[09:24] <seb128> cool
[09:37] <pitti> zasf: hi
[10:13] <Mithrandir> hmm, how come network-manager-gnome doesn't depend on network-manager?
[10:15] <pitti> Mithrandir: good point, this probably got dropped inadvertedly in the split
[10:15] <pitti> good night everyone
[11:44] <Riddell> keescook: any ETA on security review for https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportXapianCore ?  it's blocking apt rebuilds
[11:45] <keescook> Riddell: ack, sorry, I should have time before EOD today.
[11:45] <Riddell> thanks


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[02:19] <tikiking1> Netbook Version requires some sort of "Unity" driver that I apparently don't have. How to get?
[02:20] <tikiking1> hello?
[02:20] <tikiking1> anyone there?
[02:21] <tikiking1> I'm out.
[03:31] <b14ck_> Is there a way I can switch from ubuntu to xubuntu to give it a try? And switch back if I don't fancy it without formatting?
[03:58] <autif> if you have a lot of disk space, you an use a virtual machine
[08:07] <Dracaris> anyone know how to install ppu-gcc  on xubuntu 10.04?
[09:27] <ras> hello
[09:28] <Sysi> !hi
[10:22] <ras> anyone here?
[10:22] <Sysi> pop a question and will be
[10:23] <ras> How can i add a custom menu item to "Places" on side bar?
[10:24] <Sysi> what kind of?
[10:25] <ras> maybe a link to a specific folder.
[10:25] <ras> Other than Documents, Music, Downloads, etc
[10:25] <Sysi> just drag on filemanager
[10:27] <ras> I am draggin a folder, I opend from thunar to Places on site bar. But nay, I could not add it as a link int places.
[10:31] <ras> Well forget, drag drop. Is there any way I can edit the contents of "Places"?  A xml file some sort?
[13:40] <ras> Hello, after logout my icons on the desktop lose their previous positions. Is there any way to fix their locations for all sessions?
[17:31] <murphy_> anyone else having problem where you have to continuously move the mouse around in order to do anything with 10.10 release?
[17:32] <TheSheep> do anything?
[17:32] <TheSheep> what happens when you stop?
[17:32] <murphy_> it freezes
[17:33] <murphy_> it did this throughout the entire installation process as well
[17:34] <murphy_> wondered if anyone else is having similar issue?
[17:39] <charlie-tca> not here
[18:12] <morbidcracker> okay
[18:12] <morbidcracker> yays
[18:12] <morbidcracker> just installed a fresh copy of the  10.10
[18:13] <morbidcracker> cannot for the life of me find the install for nvidia drivers
[18:13] <charlie-tca> System -> Hardware Drivers
[18:13] <morbidcracker> the list is broken
[18:13] <morbidcracker> it isnt showing
[18:14] <morbidcracker> i got additional drivers but they arent showing in the additional drivers list
[18:14] <morbidcracker> maybe a repository list goof??
[18:15] <charlie-tca> Is that an older card?
[18:16] <charlie-tca> If it requires the -96 or -173 driver, it is in the release notes
[18:20] <morbidcracker> yes its an older card
[18:20] <morbidcracker> so i need to check the release notes then???
[18:20] <morbidcracker> okay thank you ^_^
[18:24] <morbidcracker> well shat -_-
[19:21] <morbidcracker> welllllll
[23:43] <rustx_> hi there .. may I ask you one question ?
[23:44] <rustx_> I am trying to get dual montior working in my xubuntu 10.10 version, but I can't have two screens detected at the same time using the display manager from the brain new xfce desktop environment
[23:44] <rustx_> I have to configure dual monitors using grandr each time I plug a new screen on my laptop ..
[23:45] <rustx_> does anyone can tell me why xfce does not support dual monitors natively in Ubuntu Maverick ?


[10:52] <fregl> AlanBell: maybe you want to add the qt accessibility feed to the a11y planet http://labs.qt.nokia.com/category/labs/accessibility/feed/
[11:16] <AlanBell> fregl: added, but nothing recent enough in that feed to make the front page
[11:45] <fregl> AlanBell: it's fine, we'll blog when there's real news :)
[11:45] <fregl> thanks
[12:39]  * joanie pings anyone who is listening ;) ;)
[12:39] <joanie> So I just did a search of packages.ubuntu.com
[12:39] <joanie> Oneiric is shipping pygobject 3.0.0
[12:40] <joanie> F16 is shipping 3.0.2 which is to my knowledge the latest stable version
[12:40] <joanie> On the Oneiric line above, stick a question mark at the end
[12:40] <joanie> ;)
[12:41] <joanie> The reason I'm asking is that there's a bug fix in pygobject 3.0.2 which Orca needs
[12:42] <Pendulum> stable tarball on the pygobject website says 3.0 as current stable release (I'm looking at http://live.gnome.org/PyGObject )
[12:44] <joanie> Pendulum, follow that link
[12:44] <Pendulum> but I will look into it and see who to poke and see if we can get 3.0.2 into an update
[12:44] <joanie> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pygobject/3.0/
[12:44] <Pendulum> yeah, now I see
[12:45] <Pendulum> so will see who I can find about that and poke
[12:46] <MrChrisDruif> Good spot joanie
[12:47]  * Pendulum has poked pitti
[12:47] <Pendulum> I think he's likely the correct person
[12:49] <Pendulum> joanie: how soon is it going to break Orca if we don't fix it and can I get a brief description of why it's needed past the general?
[12:50] <Pendulum> (I just want as much information as possible in case I get asked)
[12:50] <joanie> because there's some bug fixes since 3.0.0 which Orca requires in order for rebinding of keybindings to work
[12:51] <joanie> and today is a GNOME stable release day
[12:51] <joanie> and I am going to make an Orca tarball for stable release
[12:51] <Pendulum> *nods*
[12:51] <Pendulum> okay
[12:51] <Pendulum> hopefully pitti will get back to me soon
[12:51] <joanie> and Ubuntu isn't shipping the stable release of pygobject 3.0
[12:51] <Pendulum> right
[12:53] <Pendulum> they've got 3.0.2 in Precise so I'm not sure if there's a specific reason they haven't stuck it into an Oneiric update or not
[12:53] <joanie> anyhoo, in asking at the upstream level, it looks like I am "allowed" to bump Orca's minimum required version of pygobject 3 to the GNOME official stable version of that module (3.0.2)
[12:53] <joanie> i.e. because Orca stable is part of gnome stable. ditto for pygobject
[12:53] <joanie> if you follow what I'm saying
[12:53] <Pendulum> yeah
[12:55] <Pendulum> well, I've poked the person who has done all the most recent pygobject uploads. My guess is he's currently at lunch so hopefully he'll get back to me relatively soon :)
[13:23] <Pendulum> joanie: can you check to see if what needs to be fixed has already been done in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/pygobject/+changelog ?
[13:24] <Pendulum> they've apparently already backported some patches
[13:24] <Pendulum> (and if they haven't already backported the one that effects Orca, are happy to do so)
[13:24] <joanie> k thanks!
[13:24]  * joanie looks
[13:26] <joanie> This one for sure: http://git.gnome.org/browse/pygobject/commit/?h=pygobject-3-0&id=611f58b99851328653af4930f188c33eccaa9f6f
[13:26] <joanie> I suspect this one is needed(ish) http://git.gnome.org/browse/pygobject/commit/?h=pygobject-3-0&id=0f1eb9fa0e7aa5e7c22dabc709c0dfb469e404f1
[13:26] <AlanBell> both those look to be in
[13:27] <joanie> cool
[13:28] <joanie> and then you'll just have to change Orca's config.ac
[13:28] <joanie> because I'm bumping the minimum version there
[13:28] <joanie> wouldn't it be easier to just ship latest stable?
[13:29] <AlanBell> that would be a rolling release
[13:30] <Pendulum> AlanBell: where do you see that they're in?
[13:30] <AlanBell>   * Add 00git_wrapper_ref.patch: When converting an object with transfer none,
[13:30] <AlanBell>     make sure the wrapper owns a ref. (LP: #874299)
[13:30] <Pendulum> yeah, that one I saw
[13:31] <AlanBell>   * Add 00git_allow_gboxed_properties.patch: Add the GBoxed type as valid type
[13:31] <AlanBell>     to the gobject property helper. This fixes the "snippets" gedit plugin.
[13:31] <AlanBell>     Patch taken from upstream git head.  (LP: #877397)
[13:31] <Pendulum> ah, okay
[13:33]  * Pendulum wonders who can put in the patch for Orca's config.ac
[13:34] <Pendulum> looks like it'll be a matter of poking Luke
[13:34] <AlanBell> are we getting a new orca in oneiric?
[13:35] <Pendulum> possibly
[13:35] <Pendulum> or, rather, I suppose we should ask Luke if he thinks it's worth doing :P
[13:36]  * Pendulum tends to be in favour of getting updates into things or at least available for them should people want them
[13:39] <AlanBell> me too
[13:40] <AlanBell> my onboard themes got merged in earlier
[13:49] <AlanBell> bug 626064
[13:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 626064 in onboard "onboard: add haptic feedback" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/626064
[16:03] <AlanBell> Pendulum: what do you think of Simon so far?
[16:14] <Pendulum> AlanBell: I haven't installed yet
[16:32] <AlanBell> um, I meant the persona!
[18:27] <joanie> Anyone have any ideas if this reported bug is still valid? (I'm guessing not or we would have heard more about it from users and/or you) https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=585886
[18:27] <ubot2> Gnome bug 585886 in speech "Speech stops, Orca app crashes or freezes, when updating Ubuntu, opening apps in system menu." [Normal,Unconfirmed]


[05:12] <dax> !newfglrx is <reply> Ubuntu 16.04 and above do not contain AMD's proprietary "fglrx" video driver. Please use radeon or amdgpu instead (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver ). We do not recommend or support downloading fglrx from other sources, please do not ask for help with it here.
[05:12] <dax> !newfglrx =~ s/,/;/
[05:13] <dax> !nofglrx is <alias> newfglrx
[05:13] <dax> ahahahahahahahahaha i love ubottu
[05:14] <dax> alias suggestions welcome, i'm sure there's a better one i'm not thinking of
[05:15] <Unit193> fglrxmissing :P
[05:15] <elky> fglrxng, indistinguishable from smacking your face with the keyboard in frustration
[05:15] <dax> !fglrxmissing is <alias> newfglrx
[05:18] <chu> dax: Query?
[05:18] <dax> sure
[05:19] <dax> umm, let's try that again
[05:19] <dax> sure!
[05:19] <dax> i forgot it autosets +g on reconnect :s
[05:19] <chu> :)
[05:23] <elky> there's probably a weechat script to auto whitelist people
[05:23] <dax> elky: i have it automatically send a /quote accept on connect for a couple of people
[05:24] <dax> and by a couple of people i mean one person and one bot, i'm fairly sure you can figure out who
[11:46] <chu> I am sorry. I just banned the user DiggerNick from #u-o and he has justt entered #ubuntu, I assume to troll it now.
[11:46] <ikonia> no need for sorry
[11:46] <ikonia> gone
[11:46] <chu> Thanks
[11:47] <bazhang> thats the gnaa guy jimbow
[19:08] <dongforce> Is there a problem
[19:08] <k1l_> yes
[19:08] <dongforce> what is the problem?
[19:08] <k1l_> go away with your multiple accounts anc proxy servers.
[19:08] <dongforce> maybe I can help
[19:08] <dongforce> I have one FREE VPN CLIENT
[19:08] <dongforce> not proxy servers
[19:08] <dongforce> I am on a cell phone
[19:09] <dongforce> so dont accuse me of being some sort of hacker
[19:09] <DJones> We won't, too dumb to be a hacker
[19:10] <k1l_> maybe staff want to take a look at dongforce<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and [StarWarsVII]<EMAIL_ADDRESS> using the freenode accounts StarWarsEpisode7 and iHaveADong
[19:10] <Jordan_U> DJones: Please don't insult people in Ubuntu channels.


 so... all of you are going to sign up, right?
 thanks for the reminding
 got stuck doing stuff around the place
 lol
 do I just click join our team?
 yep
 working on it
 mk
 opps
 I forgot my login info
 their site sucks
 yeah, i know
 it looks like it was scrapped together using wordpress
 the google+ plug in is bad
 it's not sending the info to login
 it's funny how the non-tech people on the committee (pretty much everyone else) loves it and says it's more user friendly
 it can take a while, sometimes a half hour or so
 by then I'll just make a new one
 and when i look at the site, i want to tear the web developer a new one
 mm says I'm registered but not on the team...
 lol
 https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/791437874084184064
 I replied to it
 mm http://www.ubuntuautism.com/
 @Ivoriesablaze got a link to the team page?
 For some reason, I don't think that has anything to do with linux, lol
 yea lol
 And yeah, it's the link I posted yesterday, the one ending in ubuntu
 Rosewill RK-9100xB Blue Backlit Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry MX Blue Switches … http://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/231107
 Why do you torture me slickdeals!?!?
 lol
 Damn
 Just bought it
 alright
 so ubuntu-fl.org, usefoss.com use 2 factor log in
 \o/
 For some reason I'm not on this page http://act.autismspeaks.org/site/TR?team_id=53866&fr_id=2791&pg=team but if you "see all" you can see my name.
 Oh, htere I am.
 :D
 Took about 3 minutes to show up 👍
 mm
 well, adam's getting a shirt, lol
 Oh wow
 Thanks @AdamOutler
 well, that's if adam actually joins the team
 @AdamOutler
 @itnet7 @mhall119 are either of you going to join?
 Joel at a minimum, I'll donate
 awesome, thanks man, you going to be at the party next month?
 I'm still at work I'll check it out once I get home tonight @Ivoriesablaze
 Going to try, hope so
 ok
 Wow rocket league is so fun
 @Ivoriesablaze I'll donate too, I've walked in the past and appreciate you doing it
 I've also updated the website to reflect us going
 and encourging people to join or just donate
 @ahoneybun what weekend did you choose for the release party?
 Nov 5th
 I'm going to Orlando tomorrow to look at places
 and go to the Horror thing
 Universal?
 yea tha
 my roommate wanted to go
 so I'm like kill 2 birds kinda thing
 There's a lot of stuff right around there
 yea I know
 But a lot is touristy
 just need to find one place
 Kissimmee is where I'll be staying
 thanks @mhall119 I appreciate it
 I wish I could get more members for the team, though
 Agreed
 Does the on hub router firmware update itself?
 @govatent, Yup
 Cool
 I set one up last week for my mom. Just making sure I don't have to update or do anything with it
 @all did you guys see tmobile is offering half the money back via credit when you buy a Google pixel from the Google store?
 I can't drop that
 plus it's your account so I have no access lol
 I think it's only for the ONE thing too
 @govatent, Yes but I don't want to move to the T-Mobile One plan, it would add about $100 per month to my current plan
 no I like this plan anyway
 Yea exactly
 But not bad for people not on better tmobile plans
 or were not in this one before it died
 The unlimited tethering does appeal to me but the 26 GB soft cap really hurts... I also do not use more than 2 GB of tethering per month when I am not traveling
 26Gbs?
 I've never hit 12-15 I think
 and I have to REALLY try to do that
 After 26 GB, the data may be de-prioritized during peak hours


[12:57] <Valandil> hi all :-)
[02:35] <fabbione> shawarma: ping?
[02:44] <shawarma> pong
[02:44] <fabbione> shawarma: i will be at e2e the 15th
[02:44] <fabbione> of Dec of course
[02:44] <shawarma> Yeah, at two o'clock, right?
[02:45] <fabbione> yeps
[02:45] <fabbione> till 4 or something
[02:45] <fabbione> i have the plane back at hm...
[02:45] <fabbione> 18:35
[02:45] <fabbione> so i need to be at the airport ~17:30
[02:46] <fabbione> remember to take your finger print and a document
[02:46] <fabbione> we will do little key signing there
[02:46] <shawarma> Hardly. It's a very small airport. They usually require you to be there 30 minutes before take-off.
[02:46] <shawarma> And it's quite close to the city.
[02:46] <fabbione> yes it's 15minutes y taxi from e2e
[02:46] <shawarma> Right.
[02:47] <fabbione> but i rather be there a bit early than having to rush and worry
[02:47] <shawarma> Sure.
[02:47] <fabbione> i hate really hard to be in a hurry
[02:47] <fabbione> it stresses me a lot
[02:47] <shawarma> Me too.
[02:48] <shawarma> Well, I'm looking forward.
[02:48] <fabbione> so ma i
[02:48] <fabbione> am i
[02:48] <shawarma> Is it still just an informal chat about ubuntu stuff or have you figured out more specifically what it's about?
[02:48] <fabbione> it's still informal chat
[02:48] <shawarma> All right.
[02:49] <fabbione> i will give a 10/15 minutes introduction or something
[02:49] <fabbione> but after that i want it to be informal
[02:49] <fabbione> i hate slides as much as some guys there do
[02:50] <shawarma> LOL
[02:51] <fabbione> i might take something with me.. we will see
[02:52] <shawarma> Uh.
[02:53] <fabbione> i have breezy CD's and some stickers ;)
[02:58] <shawarma> Uh, those stickers that I've seen on the pictures from ubz?
[02:58] <fabbione> the one for laptops
[02:58] <shawarma> exactly.
[02:58] <shawarma> Uh... Nice!
[02:59] <fabbione> yeah i have about 10 i thnk
[02:59] <fabbione> i think
[02:59] <fabbione> not many
[02:59] <fabbione> but i have Cd's
[02:59] <fabbione> plenty
[03:00] <shawarma> Yeah, me too.
[03:41] <spike> hi there
[04:13] <Valandil> hi spike
[05:51] <Pygi> Hi hi
[05:51] <spike> hi Pygi
[05:52] <Pygi> what's goin' on in this channel? not much discussion right now, huh? :P
[05:53] <spike> Pygi: lucky man, I had to wait 30 minutes for an "hi" ;)
[05:53] <spike> u've got urs in 13 sec
[05:53] <spike> :P
[05:54] <Pygi> ah :)
[05:54] <Pygi> thanks :)
[05:54] <spike> Pygi: it depends I guess, yesterday I got a few questions answered and a nice discussion about what's going on
[05:54] <Pygi> Ah, I know :P
[05:55] <Pygi> there was some discussion goin' on about instant-server project almost every day, but it seems that...
[05:55] <Pygi> hm..
[05:55] <Pygi> I won't say nothin' :)
[05:55] <spike> what?
[05:55] <spike> what's instant-server?
[05:55] <Pygi> nothin', nothin' :)
[05:56] <Pygi> wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInstantServer
[05:57] <spike> ah, didnt know of that
[05:57] <spike> sounds like CDD
[05:57] <Pygi> ah, well...
[05:58] <Pygi> I don't know what will come out of that....
[05:59] <spike> umh, well, I don't see how that is related to ubuntu-server, at least with my understanding of it
[06:00] <spike> ubuntu-server should be ubuntu for sysadmins, instant-servers sounds like ubuntu-desktop+networ services for newbies
[06:00] <Pygi> ah, I wouldn't like to talk about that project because I might say somethin' wrong, 'cause I left that project
[06:00] <spike> I don't care about wizards and stuff, I care about packages, dependences like the X one removed (which is the case) and so son
[06:01] <spike> selinux integration, blablbalba
[06:01] <Pygi> ah, well :)
[06:01] <spike> that's not little :)
[06:02] <Pygi> can you gimme suggestion for multi-platform graphical toolkit? :)
[06:02] <Pygi> yup, I know it's not little :)
[06:02] <spike> wxPython?
[06:02] <Pygi> ah, I wrote somethin' wrong :P
[06:02] <Pygi> multi-platform graphical toolkit name? :P
[06:03] <Pygi> ergh, I am makin' a toolkit
[06:03] <Pygi> I need a name ;)
[06:03] <spike> aaaaah
[06:03] <spike> ahaha
[06:04] <Pygi> ;)
[06:04] <spike> do you want something serious or not? ie, mpGT
[06:04] <spike> that would be easy to remember, expand, print,whatever
[06:04] <Pygi> mp means what? :P
[06:04] <Pygi> ah
[06:04] <spike> multi-platform ;)
[06:04] <Pygi> multi-platform :)
[06:05] <Pygi> gee, cloning my words :P
[06:05] <Pygi> I was thinking of CoconutToolkit :P
[06:05] <Pygi> but that's no good :P
[06:05] <spike> see my question above, do you want something serious or not?
[06:05] <spike> CoconutToolkit says nothing about what sort of toolkit that is
[06:05] <Pygi> yes, I know
[06:06] <Pygi> QT doesn't say nothing either
[06:06] <spike> sure
[06:06] <Pygi> It can be any kind of name
[06:06] <Pygi> doesn't really have to be "serious" name
[06:07] <spike> guess "Medusa" is taken
[06:07] <spike> the mean would been a difference face for Os
[06:07] <spike> because it's multi-platform
[06:08] <spike> so there's a center library, the main face, and stuff to make it works on any other OS (the other faces)
[06:09] <Pygi> ah
[06:10] <Pygi> thanks for suggestions :)
[06:14] <neuralis> Pygi: dude, i seriously don't understand you. you go from reinventing the wheel on one project to reinventing the wheel on the next.
[06:15] <neuralis> Pygi: why on _earth_ do you want to make another graphics toolkit?
[06:18] <Pygi> I ain't reinventing wheel on nothin'
[06:18] <Pygi> I'll just use that for my own project
[06:18] <Pygi> nothin' else
[06:18] <Pygi> btw. I tried suggesting using tasksel...
[06:19] <Pygi> that ubuntu-instant server won't go nowhere...
[06:20] <Pygi> and if you have _ so_ good ideas, tell me what to do not to reinvent the wheel :P
[06:21] <neuralis> whether i have good ideas has nothing to do with whether you keep trying to reinvent the wheel :)
[06:22] <neuralis> is there a particular feature that you need, and that stops you from being able to use existing toolkits?
[06:22] <Pygi> I would like the app to be able to run on MacOS, which GTK+ doesn't provide, and I don't want to use QT
[06:23] <Pygi> that's just one of reasons
[06:23] <Pygi> but nevermind
[06:23] <Pygi> you see sometimes a better wheel can be invented :)
[06:23] <Pygi> more effective and things :)
[06:24] <troy> Pygi: qt is really good though :/
[06:25] <Pygi> yes, but I don't like there licence thingy
[06:25] <troy> why not? it's GPL on all three major platforms with QT4...
[06:25] <Pygi> yes, I know...
[06:25] <troy> people used to complain that it wasn't GPL, and now that it is, people still complain *sigh*
[06:26] <neuralis> troy: he just really wants to roll his own, so the arguments are sort of pointless ;)
[06:26] <Pygi> neuralis: not true :/
[06:27] <troy> plus, PyQT is really good for rapid prototyping too, since you like python
[06:27] <neuralis> Pygi: actually, a nearly complete OS X port of gtk just became available a few days ago, there's always wxwidgets, and i believe mono provides transparent x-platform gui compatibility.
[06:28] <Pygi> neuralis: I looked at OS X ports, but found none good :/ Url maybe?
[06:28] <Pygi> and the app will be written in C++, not python this time
[06:28] <troy> ah, then QT should really be an option
[06:29] <neuralis> Pygi: wxwidgets?
[06:30] <Pygi> neuralis: never used it
[06:30] <Pygi> but, oh, well...
[06:30] <Pygi> I'll have to choose something so...
[06:30] <neuralis> Pygi: http://developer.imendio.com/wiki/Gtk_Mac_OS_X
[06:31] <troy> writing your own toolkit is a big deal, and you'd probably spend three years just getting it to a usable on a single platform
[06:31] <neuralis> Pygi: i couldn't care less -- it's your free time, not mine.
[06:31] <neuralis> Pygi: but graphical toolkits are a *bear* to write decently.
[06:32] <Pygi> yes, yes, I know
[06:33] <neuralis> Pygi: why did you stop working on instant-server?
[06:33] <Pygi> because...no one else then me (troy and some others gave suggestions tho) wanted to work nothin0
[06:33] <Pygi> I was mostly on my own
[06:35] <neuralis> a lot of projects are exactly like that until you generate some momentum. this is not necessarily a bad thing.
[06:36] <troy> we didn't have a line of code down amongst the group yet either
[06:36] <troy> code is important
[06:37] <neuralis> Pygi: besides, instant-server is a very simple project; i'd say it doesn't take more than one determined hacker to do it.
[06:38] <Pygi> neuralis: I never said it's not a simple project...
[06:38] <Pygi> I just said that none want to work on it
[06:38] <Pygi> everyone would like to have everythin' on plate
[06:40] <troy> oh oh oh! thanksgiving in my southern neighbour means afternoon games today!
[06:41] <Pygi> :)
[11:19] <spike> hi
[11:22] <Valandil> hi spike
[11:22] <Valandil> :-)
[11:23] <spike> eeeeeeh!
[11:23] <spike> :)
[11:23] <Valandil> ?
[11:23] <Valandil> :-D
[11:24] <spike> am I still here?
[11:24] <Valandil> why?
[11:24] <spike> ok
[11:25] <spike> a girl just passed and stepped into the AP
[11:25] <Valandil> wifi?
[11:25] <spike> wireless
[11:25] <Valandil> ah :-)
[11:26] <spike> cabling isnt that good atm, it's been an on-the-fly setup :)
[11:26] <spike> Valandil: get to live in a 3 floors house and u;ll like it :0
[11:26] <Valandil> I see :-)
[11:26] <Valandil> But we have enough electromagnetism in here ;-)
[11:26] <spike> Valandil: if I had to cable cable this place I'd got crazy
[11:27] <Valandil> spike: could be, but I try to keep emv low as possible in here
[11:27] <Valandil> because of my little daughter
[11:31] <spike> I don't mind, I'll die of cancer anyway :P
[11:41] <Valandil> hmmm
[11:43] <spike> Vonnegut rocks
[11:43] <Valandil> Vonnegut?
[11:43] <spike> Kurt Vonnegut
[11:43] <Valandil> oops
[11:43] <spike> gets cat's cradle
[11:43] <Valandil> sorry, it's late
[11:44] <spike> late?
[11:44] <spike> where are u from?
[11:44] <Valandil> japp, here it's late
[11:44] <Valandil> germany
[11:45] <Valandil> here it's quater to 12
[11:45] <Valandil> and weekdays my clock rings at 6 am
[11:45] <Valandil> so 12 is quite late
[11:46] <spike> I c
[11:46] <Valandil> and You?
[11:46] <Valandil> where are You from?
[11:46] <spike> just moved to uk :)
[11:46] <Valandil> ah :-) from where?
[11:46] <spike> .it
[11:46] <Valandil> oh :)
[11:47] <Valandil> I never been there
[11:47] <spike> going to CCC in dec?
[11:48] <Valandil> I don't think so... no money, no time, no energy anymore
[11:48] <Valandil> life is a little ...
[11:48] <Valandil> ... stange theese dasy
[11:49] <Valandil> s/stange/strange
[11:52] <Valandil> OK, going to bed... good n8
[11:53] <spike> night
[11:53] <spike> ops


[18:31] <Spass> did you guys see this blog post about the new XApp.StatusIcon? https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3795


[03:10] <ashabadi_> z4ki: hello
[03:10] <z4ki> hey..
[03:11] <z4ki> ashabadi_,
[03:11] <ashabadi_> interest & location?
[03:11] <z4ki> Chittagong.
[03:12] <z4ki> what about you?
[03:12] <ashabadi_> DHK
[03:12] <ashabadi_> interest dead blog dead community and street photography
[03:13] <z4ki> hmm
[03:14] <z4ki> my interest is in linux.
[03:14] <ashabadi_> good
[03:14] <z4ki> name please! :)
[03:16] <ashabadi_> what's the use of name??? will know each others name when we get more acquinted
[03:16] <ashabadi_> just kidding
[03:16] <z4ki> oky. :)
[03:16] <ashabadi_> Shahriar Tariq
[03:16] <ashabadi_> my full name is too long
[03:17] <z4ki> my full name is also too long, you can't imagine
[03:18] <ashabadi_> would like to know :)
[03:19] <z4ki> Zaki Chowdhury.
[03:19] <z4ki> আপাতত এটা জেনে রাখুন। :D
[03:20] <ashabadi_> hmm
[03:20] <z4ki> so you are using KDE now?
[03:21] <z4ki> Kubuntu 16.4? ha?
[03:21] <ashabadi_> hmm
[03:22] <ashabadi_> have been kubuntu user for too long
[03:22] <z4ki> how's it?
[03:24] <ashabadi_> dont use 16.04 instead use 14.04 or 10.04 even
[03:24] <ashabadi_> I have been pissed off with Kubuntu 16.04 more than anything....
[03:24] <z4ki> bug problem?
[03:25] <z4ki> i'm using 16.4 now, unity
[03:25] <ashabadi_> *buntu is turning shit... they don't polish out features yet turn focus to new projects/developments
[03:26] <z4ki> may be.!
[03:28] <z4ki> did you use gnome?
[03:28] <ashabadi_> yes
[03:28] <ashabadi_> my second flavor was gnome...
[03:29] <z4ki> i'm planning on to install ubuntu gnome
[03:29] <ashabadi_> but I still prefer kubuntu
[03:29] <z4ki> why?
[03:29] <ashabadi_> its feature rich
[03:29] <ashabadi_> and hell lot of tweakable
[03:29] <ashabadi_> you can configure it to your liking
[03:29] <z4ki> oky. waht about gnome?
[03:30] <z4ki> waht*
[03:30] <z4ki> what*
[03:31] <ashabadi_> gnome is okay... no fuzz system
[03:31] <z4ki> hmm.
[03:32] <z4ki> :)
[05:22] <walrider>  শুভ সকাল
[05:22] <ashabadi> just in time to catch the morning :)
[05:22] <ashabadi> শুভ সকাল আপনাকেও
[05:22] <walrider>  ধন্যবাদ  ভাই
[05:23] <ashabadi> শরীর কেমন এখন?
[05:25] <walrider>  এইতোআছি
[05:25] <walrider> শুষ্ক
[05:25] <walrider> সর্দি আছে
[05:25] <walrider>  মাথা বেথা  কমে  গেছে
[05:26] <z4ki> শুভ সকাল। walrider
[05:26] <walrider>  আপনাকেও  ভাই
[05:27] <walrider>  রোজায়  ধরসে  :D
[05:32] <z4ki> এতো সকাল সকাল।  :D
[10:18] <tareq1> hello kilos
[10:26] <Kilos> hi tareq1 and others
[10:26] <tareq1> kilos:what time is there?
[10:27] <Kilos> 12.25
[10:27] <tareq1> 4:25 here
[10:27] <tareq1> 4 hr advanced
[10:27] <Kilos> whew 4 hours ahead
[10:28] <tareq1> I have updated my launchpad last night, I was member of ubuntu-bd since 2010!
[10:28] <Kilos> i struggle at times australia is 8 hours ahead and usa 8 behind
[10:29] <tareq1> ohho
[10:30] <Kilos> tareq1 you guys must invite more from your fb to here and get the loco running like a traditional loco again
[10:31] <tareq1> yea, we should
[10:31] <tareq1> I've decided to give time like old days in irc
[10:32] <tareq1> need more people
[10:32] <Kilos> i spoke to russel john about it and he was going to get your loco reverified again and then he went awol
[10:33] <Kilos> if he isnt there anymore he needs to hand over admins to someone that is actively involved
[10:33] <tareq1> ashabadi is here
[10:33] <Kilos> is he admin?
[10:33] <tareq1> i think so
[10:33] <tareq1> another person named adnan quium is busy with his phd
[10:33] <Kilos> that will be good then we help him sort things
[10:35] <Kilos> bring the bangladesh peeps back into the ubuntu scene and not all stuck in facebook where they cant apply for membership
[10:35] <tareq1> i have lots of love for linux world, but have to visit windows for few things
[10:35] <Kilos> everyone has to, the world is too full of microsoft still
[10:36] <tareq1> yes, what is the way to get ourselves out from their box
[10:36] <Kilos> we have many sysadmins in za and they all complain about all the windows stuff everywhere
[10:37] <tareq1> we need to think out of the box
[10:37] <Kilos> yes
[10:37] <Kilos> my whole box is ubuntu
[10:38] <tareq1> great
[10:38] <Kilos> only time i touch windows is when repairing some kids crashed windows laptop
[10:38] <tareq1> companies are selling windows based laptop
[10:38] <Kilos> yes
[10:38] <tareq1> most of them
[10:39] <tareq1> i've found some opensuse and ubuntu installed laptop here
[10:39] <Kilos> thats the problem and schools and varsities still use windows
[10:40] <tareq1> one thing kilos, South Africa cricket team is my second favorite; after Bangladesh
[10:40] <Kilos> cool
[10:40] <tareq1> yea
[10:40] <Kilos> our team is playing bad these last few years
[10:40] <tareq1> I badly wanted to see a trophy in SA
[10:41] <tareq1> specially World Cup
[10:41] <tareq1> bad luck all the time
[10:41] <Kilos> it will come again when they settle down and concentrate
[10:41] <Kilos> and new bloods grow up
[10:43] <tareq1> yea, one day they will rule; we need gentlemen here; not money maniac
[10:43] <Kilos> yes everything is all about money now adays
[10:43] <tareq1> everything
[10:44] <Kilos> its very sad actually
[10:44] <tareq1> people are getting windows, ant-viruses but they don't even interested on free linux distros
[10:44] <Kilos> no one wants to do anything until they know how much they can make out of it
[10:44] <tareq1> (y)
[10:45] <tareq1> i think media plays a vital role here
[10:45] <Kilos> yes of course
[10:46] <Kilos> and all the junk on television
[10:46] <Kilos> all brinwahing
[10:46] <Kilos> brainwashing
[10:47] <tareq1> i'm fed up with pendrive viruses; all are
[10:48] <tareq1> but no none talking about linux, even CSE people
[10:48] <Kilos> crazy hey
[10:48] <Kilos> brainwashed
[10:49] <tareq1> yep, whole world is like money making machine
[10:49] <Kilos> people are very slow to accept linux, but when they do they say why didnt i do this years ago
[10:49] <tareq1> we should provide ubuntu to kids, in schools
[10:50] <Kilos> thats where the problem starts, you need to convert the schools admin first otherwise they force the kids to use windows
[10:50] <tareq1> so that they can found linux in interesting manner
[10:51] <tareq1> you know i've tried many times to convince head of computer dept. of my university
[10:51] <tareq1> i wanted to give seminar on linux
[10:52] <Kilos> even some of the za members children who grew up with dad using linux have to use windows at school
[10:52] <tareq1> he is not interested at all
[10:52] <tareq1> thats the facr
[10:52] <tareq1> fact
[10:52] <Kilos> yes thats right
[10:53] <tareq1> another thing is bothering, which is piract
[10:53] <tareq1> piracy
[10:53] <Kilos> its all those in charge that are brainwashed into windows and are scared to learn something new
[10:53] <tareq1> they are missing the joy
[10:54] <tareq1> but thanks to android
[10:54] <Kilos> yes but because they are in charge they like to act like they know better
[10:54] <tareq1> without knowing we are using linux
[10:54] <Kilos> yes tablets and smart phones are converting them
[10:55] <tareq1> you know now a days kids are very smart
[10:55] <tareq1> they want to know more
[10:55] <Kilos> but android is googles and i think google is part of the evil system
[10:55] <tareq1> hmm, kind of true
[10:55] <Kilos> yes from young they handl tablets like pros
[10:55] <Kilos> hi pavlushka
[10:56] <tareq1> i got my first pc after completing school exam
[10:56] <tareq1> mobile also
[10:56] <tareq1> but i know linux from the begining
[10:56] <Kilos> good
[10:56] <pavlushka> ahoy Kilos !
[10:56] <pavlushka> tareq1: lucky you!
[10:57] <pavlushka> I had to manage 1/4 th of the money for my 1st PC.
[10:57] <tareq1> i had interest on linux from very beginning
[10:57] <tareq1> ohh
[10:57] <tareq1> windows pc :P
[10:58] <Kilos> lol
[10:58] <tareq1> Windows 98
[10:58] <pavlushka> tareq1: tried win95?
[10:58] <tareq1> I bought Red Hat from Banani market once
[10:58] <tareq1> never
[10:59] <pavlushka> I did ^
[10:59] <tareq1> 98, me, xp, vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10
[10:59] <tareq1> how was the taste ?
[10:59] <Kilos> i played games on 95 and battled then went 98 then xp then ubuntu
[10:59] <pavlushka> 95, 98, me, 2000, xp, vista, 7, 8, 8.1 , 10, :p
[11:00] <Kilos> i must go eat guys
[11:00] <tareq1> 98 was the beast
[11:00] <Kilos> be good
[11:00] <tareq1> sure
[11:00] <pavlushka> Kilos: sure
[11:00] <tareq1> get some food kilos
[11:01] <pavlushka> Kilos: please, :p
[11:01] <Kilos> yes
[11:01] <Kilos> :D very hungry
[11:01] <pavlushka> tareq1: for some reason I liked Me a lot, after all, it is me.
[11:02] <tareq1> what is today menu kilos ?
[11:02]  * pavlushka already drooling
[11:04] <tareq1> 10 is good again
[11:05] <tareq1> but my feeling only for buntus
[11:05] <pavlushka> tareq1: yes, now I am only linux
[11:07] <imtareqmhd> back with a new name
[11:07] <pavlushka> I only use win7 when some official work made me.
[11:07] <pavlushka> noticed
[11:08] <imtareqmhd> hmm
[11:08] <imtareqmhd> what do you think, libre is good enough to compete with msoffice ?
[11:09] <imtareqmhd> wait wait, who are you pavlushka ?
[11:09] <tareq2> It needs more time, :p
[11:09] <imtareqmhd> i know a tareq, he is tareq hasan
[11:10] <imtareqmhd> another guy shahriar tariq
[11:10] <pavlushka> imtareqmhd: I am just playing, lol
[11:10] <imtareqmhd> and me
[11:10] <imtareqmhd> :P
[11:10] <pavlushka> I am S. M. Pavel Sayekat
[11:10] <imtareqmhd> cool
[11:12] <DJ3> Now I know Researcher-
[11:18] <pavlushka> brb
[11:25] <imtareqmhd> ok
[11:45] <imtareqmhd> hello TUX
[11:48] <AudaciousTUX> heelu :D
[11:48] <pavlushka> Hello AudaciousTUX !
[11:48] <AudaciousTUX> hei
[11:48] <AudaciousTUX> my wordpress problem solved
[11:51] <imtareqmhd> wow
[12:26] <ashabadi> imtareqmhd: suddenly nick change?
[12:26] <pavlushka> ahoy ashabadi !
[12:26] <ashabadi> hi pavlushka
[12:27] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX: congrats! how you do it?
[12:27] <AudaciousTUX> have to make own plugin :3
[12:27] <ashabadi> congratulation due for?
[12:27] <pavlushka> ashabadi: counting the last moments of my......
[12:28] <ashabadi> hmm iftari... so near
[12:28] <pavlushka> ashabadi: AudaciousTUX solved his problem on his own, for that.
[12:28] <ashabadi> don't know what was his problem.. I was not online sorry
[12:29] <pavlushka> ashabadi: AudaciousTUX was looking for a wordpress plugin to organize his site comments.
[12:29] <ashabadi> what was you looking for AudaciousTUX? may gain some knowledge to use on my blog as well
[12:30] <AudaciousTUX> not comments... posts
[12:31] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX: potato-potato
[12:31] <ashabadi> ohh that does not require any plugin.. you can do it when posting the blog
[12:31] <ashabadi> you can switch off commenting
[12:31] <AudaciousTUX> https://www.sitepoint.com/creating-a-post-series-plugin-for-wordpress/
[12:31] <AudaciousTUX> i was looking for this
[12:34] <ashabadi> ok will check out in your blog in action :)
[12:35] <AudaciousTUX> that may take 6-7 month or even more than year :p
[12:36] <ashabadi> lol
[13:53] <pavlushka> So, I am done with iftari, now what?
[13:54] <ashabadi> now bear to see these aweful shot : https://www.flickr.com/photos/ashabadi_shahriar/
[16:00] <imtareqmhd> hello guys
[16:00] <imtareqmhd> anyone there ?
[16:00] <pavlushka> yes
[16:00] <pavlushka> imtareqmhd: How can I help you
[16:01] <imtareqmhd> nothing
[16:01] <imtareqmhd> just chat
[16:02] <pavlushka> oops, I need to run for groceries, be back withing 30 mins,
[16:04] <Kilos> imtareqmhd why you made such a hard nick now
[16:04] <imtareqmhd> hi kilos
[16:05] <imtareqmhd> because there were other tareq :(
[16:05] <Kilos> were you unhappy with tareq
[16:05] <Kilos> ohy
[16:05] <imtareqmhd> nope
[16:05] <imtareqmhd> i wanted to be tareq, not tareq1
[16:05] <Kilos> np ill get used to it
[16:05] <imtareqmhd> thats why
[16:05] <Kilos> hehe
[16:06] <imtareqmhd> you can call me tareq sir
[16:06] <Kilos> hello tareq sir
[16:06] <Kilos> hee hee
[16:06] <imtareqmhd> not me as sir, i am calling you sir
[16:07] <imtareqmhd> tareq is fine
[16:07] <Kilos> im not a sir, they have lots of money
[16:07] <imtareqmhd> ha ha
[16:08] <imtareqmhd> seriously looking for some alternative softwares
[16:08] <imtareqmhd> :/
[16:08] <Kilos> yeah trying to find a nick no one else has sucks
[16:09] <Kilos> and when you find one, if you stay offlinr a couple of months someone steals it
[16:10] <Kilos> but this one is ok too man, dont stress
[16:11] <imtareqmhd> yea, we need to make some plans
[16:11] <Kilos> just register it
[16:12] <imtareqmhd> where?
[16:12] <Kilos> here
[16:12] <Kilos> type it /msg nickserv register imtareqmhd email address
[16:12] <Kilos> i think thats it
[16:13] <Kilos> pavel will know
[16:22] <Kilos> wb
[16:28] <imtareqmhd> just registered
[16:28] <imtareqmhd> thanks Kilos
[16:28] <imtareqmhd> someone using tareq :/
[16:29] <Kilos> aw
[16:29] <Kilos> is it registered?
[16:29] <imtareqmhd> yea
[16:30] <imtareqmhd> ok, now i need a road-map
[16:30] <Kilos> lol
[16:30] <Kilos> to where
[16:30] <imtareqmhd> how i can be a good ubuntu ambassador
[16:31] <imtareqmhd> i would like to motivate people to come here
[16:31] <imtareqmhd> few already been
[16:31] <Kilos> tell them we are trying to revive the channel and the loco
[16:32] <imtareqmhd> what would be functions of loco ?
[16:32] <imtareqmhd> release party only ???
[16:32] <imtareqmhd> or hangout
[16:33] <Kilos> the loco is the community all together helping each other and having fun while doing it
[16:33] <Kilos> its like a cricket team, you make friends and work together better as friends
[16:34] <imtareqmhd> our loco team is sleeping
[16:34] <imtareqmhd> no one there to kick it
[16:35] <Kilos> then you can get local guys together and have ubuntu hours at any place with internet connections and you go demo ubntu to strangers there
[16:35] <Kilos> coffe shops , steak houses and so on
[16:35] <imtareqmhd> this is good idea
[16:37] <imtareqmhd> right now i am facing printing problem
[16:37] <Kilos> even schools and oter gatherings
[16:37] <imtareqmhd> my printer is lbp 3300
[16:37] <imtareqmhd> not working on ubuntu
[16:37] <imtareqmhd> or any linux
[16:37] <Kilos> oh my
[16:37] <imtareqmhd> can you help me to solve the problem ?
[16:37] <Kilos> i dont even use a printer
[16:38] <imtareqmhd> ohh
[16:38] <imtareqmhd> hp has great support for ubuntu
[16:38] <imtareqmhd> cannon sux
[16:38] <Kilos> there must be someone that will know
[16:38] <Kilos> try asking on #ubuntu
[16:38] <imtareqmhd> yea, need to look around the net
[16:39] <Kilos> there are many people  there
[16:39] <Kilos> that is the official help channel
[16:40] <Kilos> thats why it is good to have many in your channel as well
[16:41] <Kilos> hi ashabadi
[16:41] <Kilos> what you know about printers on linux
[16:45] <ashabadi> I know they are plug and play
[16:45] <ashabadi> :P
[16:46] <Kilos> imtareqmhd is having probs
[16:46] <ashabadi> at least that I have been told. I have never used one on linux sorry...
[16:46] <imtareqmhd> not all
[16:46] <ashabadi> what's the model you are using & what is your problem?
[16:46] <ashabadi> sorry that you would have to repeat yourself
 my printer is lbp 3300
[16:49] <imtareqmhd> brb
[16:51] <Kilos> i remember someone using sudo modprobe bla  bla to get one working years ago
[16:59] <Kilos> dinner time for me
[16:59] <ashabadi> you have dinner so early
[16:59] <ashabadi> its 7pm I guess
[17:15] <pavlushka> thank goodness I had mine, :p
[17:17] <pavlushka> imtareqmhd: you there? you were saying about canon printer issue?
[17:17] <imtareqmhd> yea
[17:17] <pavlushka> wb ashabadi !
[17:18] <imtareqmhd> mine is lbp3300
[17:18] <imtareqmhd> pavlushka:can you help me?
[17:19] <pavlushka> imtareqmhd: is it this https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&hs=5NK&channel=fs&tbm=isch&q=Canon+lbp+3300&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi72L3oyK_NAhWBvI8KHe6LAgYQBQgbKAA?
[17:20] <imtareqmhd> yep, this one :)
[17:24] <pavlushka> imtareqmhd: all scanner drivers in linux are supported through SANE (scanner Access Now Easy) project.
[17:25] <imtareqmhd> yea, what about printers
[17:25] <pavlushka> there is a channel #sane, you can ask there
[17:25] <pavlushka> imtareqmhd: oops, sorry
[17:25] <pavlushka> imtareqmhd: on it, give me some more moment
[17:28] <pavlushka> imtareqmhd: your system specs please.
[17:29] <imtareqmhd> core 2 duo, 4 GB ram, running Ubuntu 64 bit
[17:30] <Kilos> yyip we eat at 7pm ashabadi
[17:30] <pavlushka> imtareqmhd: Here, http://www.canon-europe.com/support/consumer_products/products/printers/laser/i-sensys_lbp3300.aspx?type=drivers&language=EN&os=Linux%20(64-bit)
[17:32] <pavlushka> Hey ashabadi, what was the menu? ^^
[17:32] <imtareqmhd> let me check
[17:32] <ashabadi> I've not have my dinner...
[17:33] <ashabadi> but I'm guessing Kios had stew rice today again...
[17:33] <pavlushka> ashabadi: poor you are, :p
[17:33] <Kilos> no soup tonight
[17:33] <pavlushka> lol
[17:33] <Kilos> thick mixed veggie and beef soup
[17:34] <Kilos> with chilli/garlic mix of course
[17:34] <pavlushka> imtareqmhd: select the 2.70 version CAPT driver there.
[17:35] <imtareqmhd> pavlushka: I'm downloading that
[17:35]  * pavlushka drooling
[18:05] <pavlushka> nice playing
[18:06] <Kilos> lol
[18:06] <ashabadi> sorry I was registering my nicks
[18:06] <ashabadi> I guess freenode deletes registration after a while if not used
[18:06] <ashabadi> all these ids were registered to me
[18:18] <pavlushka> ashabadi: what? come on.
[18:19] <ashabadi> nothing. I meant if my changing names was annoying
[18:19] <pavlushka> ashabadi: yes after 15 weeks of inactivity
[18:20] <pavlushka> ashabadi: but its good that you got that
[18:21] <ashabadi> hmm :)
[18:21] <pavlushka> ashabadi: I think you can register one nick against one email but dont know about groups
[18:22] <ashabadi> yes you can register multiple nick
[18:22] <Kilos> i registered one and grouped the others under it
[18:22] <ashabadi> you have to register & login to one of them then switch nicks and /msg nickserv group
[18:23] <ashabadi> it will group other nicks
[18:23] <Kilos> yip
[18:25] <pavlushka> hmm
[18:31] <pavlushka> ashabadi: sorry back.
[18:42] <Kilos> night all of you. sleep well
[18:47] <pavlushka> Hello AudaciousTUX !
[19:32] <pavlushka> good night guys!


[00:33] <MythbuntuGuest33> !help release date
[00:33] <Zinn> !help release date For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[00:35] <MythbuntuGuest33> Does 9.04 come out on thursday too or is it normally a little later than ubuntu release date?
[01:06] <xavieronassis> Recently when I go to watch a recorded show rather than the show playing, I get a message saying "the file for this recording is empty" - anyone know what's happened? It's been working perfectly until this week.
[01:11] <tgm4883> !logs xavieronassis
[01:11] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about logs xavieronassis
[01:11] <tgm4883> !logs | xavieronassis
[01:11] <Zinn> xavieronassis: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[01:30] <xavieronassis> will do... thanks
[01:51] <xavieronassis> I've ssh'd into the box and looked at the syslog from 4/20 when there was an error in recording. I've posted a bit from the end... http://pastebin.ca/1399081 only the frontend only machine is Ibex the FE/BE is Hardy Heron - didn't find log grabber. there.
[02:00] <xavieronassis> This one may be more relevant http://pastebin.ca/1399089
[02:04] <gizmobay> When I start LiveTV for the first time from the main menu, I don't get any channel info through a popup. I cahnge the channel and then I get it. Is anyone else seeing this?
[05:19] <Steve_> anyone available to help me out a bit with 'apt-get source mythtv'?
[05:19] <Steve_> I get this: NOTICE: 'mythtv' packaging is maintained in the 'Bzr' version control system
[05:19] <Steve_> not sure what I can do
[05:19] <Steve_> .
[05:21] <Steve_> hmm i see now that there is a program called bzr
[14:51] <r3vile> hi
[14:51] <rhpot1991> hi
[14:52] <wombo> hi
[14:58] <tgm4883> hi
[15:02] <wombo> I just brought a new AMP today to replace my crappy LG multimedia/DVD crap
[15:02] <wombo> What is the best way to get sound to it?
[15:02] <wombo> Currently I am using a 3.5mm plug
[15:03] <wombo> Using the mobo sound card I can only do 3.5mm stereo or some other plug
[15:04] <wombo> < I thought it was toslink but it says on the back SPDIF, but it isnt an RCA type socket
[15:04] <wombo> My option is to just buy a new sound card for it so I can finally get 5.1
[15:05] <rhpot1991> if it looks like optical then it prob is optical
[15:06] <wombo> so using that I can pass the full stream across, like DTS or whatever it is for the AMP top sort out?
[15:09] <rhpot1991> yep
[15:09] <rhpot1991> wombo: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Configuring_Digital_Sound
[15:09] <rhpot1991> wombo: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Configuring_Digital_Sound_with_AC3_and_SPDIF
[15:51] <r3vile> i have to edit something in "~/.vlc/"  where is this path, or what means the ~ ?
[15:52] <rhpot1991> ~ is your home directory
[15:52] <rhpot1991> if you hit ~ then tab, it should convert it to the full path
[15:53] <r3vile> ok thx
[15:54] <rhpot1991> np
[15:55] <r3vile> hm its /home/main/.vlc
[15:55] <r3vile> but there is no such folder
[15:56] <r3vile> im using mythbuntu , where can i find the .vlc folder there?
[15:56] <rhpot1991> r3vile: first, are you sure you have vlc installed, I don't recall if its there by default
[15:57] <r3vile> yes i have :P
[15:58] <r3vile> the problem is, that i want control vlc by remote and i found a tutorial how to do this, but there i have to edit ~/.vlc/...
[15:58] <r3vile> which i cant found
[15:58] <r3vile> *find
[15:59] <rhpot1991> make it then
[15:59] <rhpot1991> mkdir .vlc
[16:00] <rhpot1991> or if its a file just create it with your editor
[16:00] <r3vile> no, im afraid, thats not the right way ;)
[16:00] <r3vile> i have vlc.. so there must be such an folder
[16:04] <r3vile> well i am going to upgrade vlc
[16:04] <rhpot1991> r3vile: sometimes packages only create those if they are needed, and there will be a default config somewhere else
[16:05] <rhpot1991> most times you only do that for user specific configuration, so either you are editing the wrong place or need to create it
[23:59] <mattwj2002> hi guys


 didn't get a notifiaction
 I don't have any questions about openbox placed here
 My questions were retorical ment as an answer
 I was trying to help someone with his question
 but thank you for showing the way to the Lubuntu forum (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> @Michaël first can you tell me if you get this message as a notification like you normally would if someone at-mentioned you? secondly what is your question about openbox maintainers?)
[09:20] <Memo39MX> hola a todos
[09:20] <Memo39MX> quiero hacerles una pregunta un poco gastada
[09:21] <Memo39MX> pero estoy pensando en hacer un cambio y necesito saber su opinion
[09:21] <Memo39MX> cual es el mejor web browser?
[16:42] <razdva> hey
[22:34] <Cyber_Thankist> Всем привет
 !ru
 blah
[22:35] <kc2bez> !ru
[22:35] <teward> ^ that
[22:35] <teward> i need to fix that in the bot / relay >.<


[02:40] <nhandler> pleia2, akgraner: Did either of you reply yet? I completely missed that email
[02:41] <pleia2> not I
[02:41] <akgraner> haven't yet
[02:41] <akgraner> just finished up a meeting
[02:43] <nhandler> Want me to send it?
[02:44] <pleia2> sure
[02:52] <nhandler> Sent
[02:57] <pleia2> thanks :)