[00:00] <JulianR> Nope, not with GParted. I'm using the Disk Utility from Ubuntu
[00:00] <kroq-gar78> ewww
[00:00] <JulianR> Since it's not the main partition.
[00:00] <kroq-gar78> me no likey
[00:00] <JulianR> I had Windows in that partition.
[00:00] <TiMiDo> lol
[00:00] <Ibyss> sudo apt-get install gparted
[00:00] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, did you fix you're error?
[00:00] <kroq-gar78> yup
[00:00] <TiMiDo> cool ;)
[00:00] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: nope T_T
[00:00] <monsterwizard> has anyone had experience with wubi?
[00:00] <TiMiDo> oh i though you did.
[00:00] <kroq-gar78> lol sry
[00:00] <Ibyss> monsterwizard: Yes, an older version if it.
[00:00] <Ibyss> monsterwizard: Works well.
[00:01] <monsterwizard> not for me it seems
[00:01] <monsterwizard> :/
[00:01] <kroq-gar78> monsterwizard: worked flawlessly for me... 3-4 times...
[00:01] <JulianR> Ibyss: doing that =)
[00:01] <Ibyss> monsterwizard: Issues?
[00:01] <TiMiDo> kroq-gar78, msg me for a sec
[00:01] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: ok
[00:01] <monsterwizard> I got an error
[00:01] <monsterwizard> which told me to look in a file
[00:01] <monsterwizard> this is the file http://pastebin.com/VtkG7tsF
[00:01] <monsterwizard> I've attempted to install it 5 times
[00:01] <monsterwizard> the same error appears
[00:02] <IdleWarship> What's a quick way in terminal to loop a command, with pause, until I escape it?
[00:02] <kroq-gar78> monsterwizard: redownload both the wubi installer and image maybe?
[00:02] <monsterwizard> I've done that 5 times
[00:02] <JulianR> Okay, doing the format with gparted now.
[00:02] <TiMiDo> IdleWarship, bash scripting ;)
[00:02] <vsync_> monsterwizard maybe check the last line? =)))
[00:02] <abu-bakr> hi folks, can't seem to get the time and date settings to come up  ?!?
[00:02] <abu-bakr> fresh install 11:04
[00:03] <abu-bakr> wont show up on the bottom option after clicking on the clock or by going to preferences
[00:03] <abu-bakr> any ideas?
[00:03] <karni> IdleWarship: while (true) do <command_here>; sleep 1; done;
[00:04] <IdleWarship> TiMiDo: karni: Great, thanks. Doin' it.
[00:04] <karni> IdleWarship: Ctrl+D to stop
[00:04] <IdleWarship> BOth.
[00:04] <bf4648> I wipped my mac mini 's hard drive clean & installed ubuntu on it...how do I install the drivers for wireless internet to work?
[00:04]  * abu-bakr rings the bell
[00:04] <TiMiDo> ok IdleWarship  ;)
[00:04] <TiMiDo> cool
[00:04] <karni> IdleWarship: not sure what you mean by bot.   So i reboot, start my other browser (Cause i'm used to system fuckups) and play another flash video (again, youtube)  and again.. I click a link for the next video and i get a total system lockup.. I check my logfiles ang see this... CE: hpet increased min_delta_ns to 25312 nsec
[00:06] <reisub> actually that's the last of three in the logs
[00:06] <insectatorious> guys, in a bash script, after executing a command, what's the check to see if the command completed successfully? something with a $ I think
[00:06] <bf4648> $result = $cmd, $result, $response_code
[00:07] <IdleWarship> karni: Oh, I thought a bash script was specifically a .sh, and not script in terminal.  I see they are one in the same, now.
[00:07] <insectatorious> bf4648: what's the $response_code?
[00:07] <karni> IdleWarship: Right.  :P
[00:16] <DeviceZer0> http://pastebin.com/XFC2seJi
[00:16] <abu-bakr> lol
[00:16] <abu-bakr> no it says that the APT does
[00:16] <Scriven> Can anyone here point me to GPS 'stuff'? Having a hard time getting usb gps working w/ ubuntu.
[00:16] <King_Ozzy> Scriven there is the channel #ubuntu
[00:17] <jack_^> abu-bakr: try sudo apt-get moo
[00:17] <Scriven> King_Ozzy, isn't this #ubuntu?
[00:17] <King_Ozzy> right, so spit out the question :D
[00:17] <abu-bakr> jack_^:  oic
[00:18] <abu-bakr> so its just a way for nerds to blow off steam at the terminal huh?
[00:18] <Scriven> King_Ozzy, I don't know enough about the problem to ask intelligently yet, that's why I'm looking for basic pointers. The gps seems to be installed, kinda of, but isn't giving useful data. It's usb-serial built in, which shows up under lsusb, but that's about it.
[00:19] <Scriven> using a sony gps unit reportedly.
[00:19] <Scriven> it's marketed as a GPS1100U
[00:20] <abu-bakr> Fellas, I can't seem to get the time and date settings to come up  ?!?
[00:20] <abu-bakr> fresh install 11:04
[00:20] <abu-bakr> wont show up on the bottom option after clicking on the clock or by going to preferences
[00:20] <abu-bakr> any ideas?
[00:20] <abu-bakr> how do i reinstall the package or something,, that might fix it
[00:20] <kroq-gar78> maybe update system?
[00:20] <OerHeks> set your time in the bios first
[00:21] <almoxarife> Scriven: what useful data is missing?
[00:21] <King_Ozzy> Scriven what does "installed kind of" mean?
[00:22] <Scriven> almoxarife, AFAIK there is no useful satellite data coming through. I'm wondering first how to do basic hardware verification. IE, is this device working.
[00:22] <almoxarife> Scriven: what did you install to take the data and use it?
[00:22] <Scriven> King_Ozzy, the usb-serial shows up in lsusb, dmesg shows driver installed. gps programs attempt to communicate with /dev/ttyUSB0, but the gui/cli programs fail with no data, and I don't know enough about the stream to know what's wrong.
[00:23] <ubuntu> hi
[00:23] <Scriven> I've tried various programs, xgps, cgps, gpsprof, a gui one who's name escapes me.
[00:23] <abu-bakr> OerHeks: bios time is fine
[00:23] <King_Ozzy> whose
[00:23] <Scriven> gpspipe -r does give information, I just don't know enough about GPS to know if it's valid or not.
[00:23] <abu-bakr> the time reads correct.. i just cant get in to the settings .. (i like to have the date showing!)
[00:25] <Scriven> tangogps was the other one  I tried.
[00:25] <kroq-gar78> abu-bakr: don't do this yet, but maybe "unity --replace"? that resets unity, right? Assuming ur using unity
[00:26] <almoxarife> Scriven: so, you have installed a piece of hardware and it produces output, but you can't trust it, given that its gps I would continue to not trust it till you can get it to place a big X on a chart and agree that is where you are at on earth
[00:26] <OerHeks> abu-bakr, that is odd, file a bugreport
[00:26] <abu-bakr> kroq-gar78: no sorry.. dont use unity..
[00:27] <Scriven> almoxarife, that's exactly where I'm at.
[00:27] <abu-bakr> when i clock on the link under preferences, the curser has a think about it.. but then decides to do nothing..
[00:27] <almoxarife> Scriven: opencpn will take the input from a gps and locate you on a chart, given that it already has the chart
[00:27] <abu-bakr> maybe the cow needs easter eggs?
[00:27] <Scriven> almoxarife, the various programs that are supposed to the "you are here" mapping for me fail to do anything useful.
[00:27] <abu-bakr> i meant 'when i click on the link!'
[00:27] <Scriven> almoxarife, trying it.
[00:28] <theborger> Mikeyn: no you can do the same steps on a linux box
[00:28] <almoxarife> Scriven: also there is a better app from win called 'seaclear' and it runs in wine and it will take the gps input, I have used it a lot more than opencpn
[00:29] <Scriven> ok, will try that one too.
[00:29] <Mikeyn> theborger, my ubuntu install errors, hence me needing to boot from a usb install
[00:29] <theborger> Mikeyn: so boot the eeepc your using? with a live usb?
[00:29] <Mikeyn> im using my gfs eeepc with windows xp
[00:30] <jpmh> how do I set key bindings in 11.10?
[00:30] <almoxarife> Scriven: seaclear with gps and the correct chart of your area, can be trusted, well, I have trusted it
[00:30] <Mikeyn> im trying to make the usb bootable on my macbook, which i was originally using
[00:30] <theborger> Mikeyn: all of those xp utilities to burn to usb are mostley crap
[00:30] <Scriven> almoxarife, So is that a basic setup, if it doesn't work there's hardware issues? It would be nice for me to at least eliminate busted hardware at some point.
[00:30] <theborger> Mikeyn: so if you want to be sure it is the usb causing the problem. Use linux and dd
[00:32] <Ibyss> TiMiDo: THink it'll be wise for me to switch to using oss?
[00:32] <almoxarife> Scriven: you should be able to see output, the output will look like greek without something for it to actually put a big X on, then where the X lies better be where you are at
[00:32] <Ibyss> Instead of alsamixer?
[00:33] <Scriven> almoxarife, is there some place I can just get that stream from gpspipe -r verified?
[00:34] <almoxarife> Scriven: no idea, do you see the output coords? does the coords match reality?
[00:34] <Scriven> the output is NEMA stream data that I don't know how to manually interpret.
[00:34] <Scriven> or at least appears to be.
[00:35] <TiMiDo> Ibyss, ??
[00:35] <almoxarife> Scriven: correct
[00:35] <almoxarife> Scriven: you have wine ?
[00:35] <Scriven> yes.
[00:36] <almoxarife> Scriven: find 'seaclear' , you near a US waterway?
[00:36] <Scriven> downloading seaclear now in fact.
[00:37] <Scriven> Fairly close to Seattle (I'm in Canada).
[00:37] <kernelpanicker> After locking myself out of sudo on ubuntu running on a VM running on KVM on my server, I can't get into single user mode to add a root password because I can't get into grub; the image starts too fast to use virt-viewer to get to it.  Help!
[00:37] <almoxarife> Scriven: near san juan de fuqua channel?
[00:37] <Scriven> yup
[00:38] <Scriven> juan de fuqua, yes.
[00:39] <Lunar_Lander> hello, I just saw in my Software Center history three entries: "Today" "Tuesday" and "October 12"
[00:39] <almoxarife> Scriven: great, use the US charts for the area nearest your location, with seaclear you will get a little boat planted on top of your location
[00:39] <Lunar_Lander> can that thing be because I use 11.10 and this was released October 13?
[00:39] <Scriven> us charts, ok.
[00:40] <almoxarife> Scriven: unless you want to pay for canadian charts, you guys are cheap
[00:40] <almoxarife> Scriven: this is getting off topic, if you need more help, pm me
[00:40] <Scriven> lol, nah, just wondering why it's saying I'm in the middle of the atlantic ocean.
[00:41] <almoxarife> Scriven: zero lat, zero long
[00:41] <Lunar_Lander> any idea about my observation?
[00:42] <OerHeks> Lunar_Lander, some iso's were build 11, yours at 12 and last at 13 october, correct
[00:42] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[00:42] <Lunar_Lander> so that entry marks what was installed from the CD
[00:43] <OerHeks> yes
[00:43] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[00:43] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[00:43] <reisub> so disabling hpet didn't work
[00:44] <reisub> it still freezes up
[00:44] <reisub> it's like the latest updates fucked it up
[00:44] <reisub> wait
[00:44] <reisub> that's like always
[00:44] <reisub> so here's how to reproduce the issue, running 10.10, navigate to a youtube video, let it play about all the way, then click a link for another video
[00:44] <reisub> do this once or twice and you'll get a flash on your screen then the whole system will lock up
[00:45] <OerHeks> reisub, what version ubuntu, what browser & version etc ?
[00:45] <reisub> 10.10
[00:45] <reisub> all browsers
[00:46] <reisub> before i disabled hpet i got  "hpet increasing max_delta_ns to xxxxx nsec
[00:46] <reisub> that would happen just as it froze every time
[00:47] <reisub> there would be like 3-5 lines
[00:47] <reisub> each with a larger xxxxx number
[00:48] <reisub> i also get these and don't know why
[00:48] <reisub> pciehp 0000:00:01.0:pcie04: Card not present on Slot(16)
[00:48] <reisub> pciehp 0000:00:01.0:pcie04: Card present on Slot(16)
[00:55] <khaime_> I am running ubuntu 10.10 on a hp compaq nc6220 who has a built-in "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [ Calexico2 ] Network Conneciton" ...........i read that the ipw200 driver is the driver to make this work, and that it is a part of the kernel of 10.10.........but for some reason I can not get it to work....also on this laptop , the wirelss and the bluetooth are integrated...i can turn on the bluetooth , but i can not turn on t
[00:55] <khaime_> he wireless.....when I do a "lshw -C network" it shows : "*-network DISABLED"  for the wireless....can anyone help ?   thanks in advance !
[00:55] <reisub> I wonder if it's actually flash causing the issue
[00:55] <reisub> just reinstalled to see
[00:56] <reisub> gimmie a minute to play the video and prepare for breakdown
[00:57] <reisub> well here we go
[00:58] <reisub> yep
[00:58] <reisub> that's the issue
[01:01] <alexxander> not sure i have it written  down right - if i want to change my dns then i use sudo nano /etc/resolv.config right?
[01:01] <TiMiDo> no
[01:01] <TiMiDo> use /etc/hosts
[01:01] <TiMiDo> ;)
[01:01] <TiMiDo> for a hostname
[01:01] <FloodBot1> TiMiDo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:02] <reisub> allright guys
[01:02] <reisub> why does flash ALWAYS break ubuntu?
[01:02] <King_Ozzy> alright guy
[01:02] <reisub> and what can i do to fix it?
[01:02] <TiMiDo> reisub, amd 64?
[01:03] <reisub> nope
[01:03] <reisub> pae
[01:03] <blackshirt> reisub: flash not working greats on my linux
[01:03] <King_Ozzy> pae?
[01:03] <TiMiDo> i686?
[01:03] <reisub> Linux laptop 2.6.35-31-generic-pae #63-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 28 20:48:50 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:03] <TiMiDo> lol
[01:03] <TiMiDo> reisub, install a kernel-image something like i386
[01:03] <reisub> why?
[01:04] <reisub> i haven't had any problems up until i did the updates pushed down today
[01:04] <TiMiDo> because flash is very buggy in terms of architecture i686
[01:04] <TiMiDo> what type of laptop or computer is it reisub "
[01:04] <reisub> vmus m
[01:04] <reisub> er
[01:04] <reisub> m70vm
[01:05] <reisub> friggen numlock
[01:05] <TiMiDo> are you drunk?
[01:05] <reisub> no my fuggin numlock was off
[01:05] <reisub> retard
[01:05] <TiMiDo> lol
[01:05] <reisub> so how can i view what updates were pushed down today
[01:05] <reisub> and can i uninstall them updates?
[01:06] <TiMiDo> reisub, use synaptic
[01:06] <TiMiDo> ;)
[01:06] <TiMiDo> for GUI interface
[01:06] <reisub> so there's an 'updated today' view?
[01:07] <TiMiDo> check it out :)
[01:07] <TiMiDo> it will tell you there
[01:07] <reisub> i am checking it out
[01:07] <reisub> and there is no 'updated today' link
[01:08] <TiMiDo> check the packages that we're installed
[01:08] <reisub> we are?
[01:08] <reisub> ok you're obviously no help
[01:09] <TiMiDo> lol
[01:09] <TiMiDo> ;)
[01:09] <TiMiDo> ty for that
[01:09] <Kur0Tsuk1> hi guys
[01:09] <reisub> so anyone /else/ know how i can view which packages were updated today ?
[01:10] <Kur0Tsuk1> anyone know how fixed the problem with sis drivers
[01:11] <blackshirt> Kur0Tsuk1: what the problem with sis ?
[01:13]  * OerHeks hears SiS and feels sad
[01:16] <Canadian1296> Anyone active?
[01:17] <OerHeks> hi Canadian1296
[01:18] <Canadian1296> OerHeks, hi...
[01:20] <Canadian1296> Need some help writing a script, should be fairly simple.
[01:21] <Canadian1296> Can anyone help?
[01:21] <seidos> in what language Canadian1296 ?
[01:21] <TiMiDo> bash?
[01:21] <Canadian1296> sedios, bash
[01:21] <TiMiDo> Canadian1296, join #bash
[01:21] <TiMiDo> ;)
[01:21] <TiMiDo> for help
[01:22] <Barridus> is there a way to obtain the path to the folder you're looking at in dolphin so i can copy and paste it elsewhere?  i used to be able to do that but it appears that function has been removed/hidden
[01:22] <Clayman1000x> Somebody at Cnet forums told me that someone here might be able to help me with a netgear wna3100 wireless usb adapter
[01:22] <Barridus> used to in previous ubuntu(s)*
[01:23] <Clayman1000x> for ubuntu 11.10
[01:28] <wolfmitchell> It says that I am not in the sudoers file, but I was earlier today and I am the only user on the system. Any help?
[01:29] <jrwren> where does upstart store it status ?
[01:29] <jrwren> becuase I say start... it doesn't bother to try to run start.
[01:29] <jrwren> it thinks it is already started, because of some stored status.
[01:30] <milamber> wolfmitchell:
[01:30] <milamber> wolfmitchell: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[01:30] <TiMiDo> jrwren, check out /etc/init.d out ;)
[01:30] <TiMiDo> or service appname start or stop
[01:31] <Kireji> how do I add a path so that teh man pages appear in man?
[01:31] <Kireji> $MANPATH is blank, and there is a mapath command, referencing some .manpath file
[01:31] <jpmh> how do I set keybindings with ubuntu 11.10
[01:31] <wolfmitchell> How do I go into recovery mode when I installed with WUBI?
[01:31] <Kireji> but the man page for manpath doesn't spcifify the format of the .manpath file
[01:31] <jrwren> TiMiDo: those are old init.d rc.d style script. I'm talking about status of upstart jobs
[01:31] <Kireji> dizzyingly stupid
[01:32] <warfaren> TiMiDo: your nickname looks a lot like TiMidity. that's no coincidence is it?
[01:32] <TiMiDo> warfaren, i am confidence 100 % ;)
[01:33] <warfaren> :P
[01:33] <TiMiDo> jrwren, exec /bin/foo --opt -xyz foo bar
[01:33] <TiMiDo> that's how i help around in launchpad ;)
[01:33] <Clayman1000x> Ubuntu 11.10 does not see my Netgear wna3100 wireless usb adapter, so I can't get on the internet
[01:33] <jrwren> let me start over. upstart isn't execing or respawning dbus. so I get no dbus on boot. How can I fix this?
[01:34] <Clayman1000x> I'm short a driver package I think
[01:34] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, type dmesg to see if is detect it or not
[01:34] <TiMiDo> and check the dmesg output and paste it some where
[01:34] <wolfmitchell> When running Ubuntu with WUBI, how do go into recovery mode?
[01:35] <OerHeks> Clayman1000x, askubuntu has the answer > http://askubuntu.com/questions/48563/could-anyone-help-me-get-my-netgear-wna3100-broadcom-bcm43231-wireless-adapter
[01:35] <TiMiDo> wolfmitchell, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9142/easily-install-ubuntu-linux-with-windows-using-the-wubi-installer/
[01:35] <Rallias> How do I open a deja-dup backup in windows?
[01:36] <TiMiDo> with windows back up?
[01:36] <euc> Hi, I have a VIA KM400 graphics chipset. How can I use Compiz with it? When I try, I get: Fatal: Support for non power of two textures missing. Thanks for any help you can give!
[01:36] <Rallias> TiMiDo Link?
[01:37] <Rallias> TiMiDo I made a deja-dup backup while I was on linux, it has data I need on windows, and right now I don't have access to linux.
[01:37] <wolfmitchell> ...I do not have the Grub menu,
[01:37] <TiMiDo> Rallias, http://linuxaria.com/article/deja-dup-the-backup-simple-and-fast-is-served?lang=en
[01:38] <Kireji> how do I update man to include one more directory?
[01:38] <Rallias> TMiDo the issue is, I need to open it in windows, not linux
[01:38] <Kireji> I've manually built and installed a new program, in /usr/local/programname  and it inclues a bunch of man pages in /usr/local/programname/man/man[58]/*
[01:40] <TiMiDo> Kireji, sudo updatedb
[01:40] <TiMiDo> ;)
[01:40] <TiMiDo> and you're good
[01:40] <Clayman1000x> I have to log off xp and go into ubuntu to try dmesg, be right back
[01:40] <TiMiDo> it will sync you're new man pages so you can view them with xman or man or
[01:40] <TiMiDo> whatever the case might be.
[01:41] <Kireji> TiMiDo: I thought updatedb just did the locale db
[01:41] <Kireji> erm the *locate db
[01:41] <TiMiDo> naw
[01:41] <TiMiDo> if you run it as normal user of course for the local db ;)
[01:42] <TiMiDo> if you run it with sudo privileges it will look in the /root directory
[01:42] <TiMiDo> or whatever you might have them locate it at
[01:44] <Suit_Of_Sables> hey gang, On one of my linux machines the tty screen only seems to register every other keystroke. This is a huge pain in the butt! I know it isn't the input device because it happens on both my wired keyboard and my wireless mini keyboard remote. has anyone ever heard of a problem like this? Any idea what might be causing it?
[01:45] <TiMiDo> Suit_Of_Sables, which release are you running?
[01:45] <wan> my graphic card is messed up - how can I launch ubuntu ? are there some graphic drivers that would do all the processing on CPU ? on windows there's vga.dll
[01:46] <TiMiDo> pastebin you're xorg.conf wan  and you're xorg error ;)
[01:46] <Suit_Of_Sables> TiMiDo: This system actually has arch on it. But the people in that channel are not so helpful sometimes :*( I figured it would be an issue across distros
[01:46] <Ibyss> TiMiDo: I was wondering if I should switch to using Opensource Sound System or not.
[01:46] <milamber> !nomodeset | wan
[01:46] <TiMiDo> Suit_Of_Sables, i have use arch before
[01:46] <Ibyss> Alsa breaks a lot.
[01:46] <TiMiDo> but refer it to #archlinux
[01:46] <TiMiDo> or to there forums
[01:46] <temporizer> anyone find a fix for the "kworker" issue?
[01:46] <temporizer> i have 13 of them running now
[01:47] <temporizer> i'm using 11.04
[01:47] <TiMiDo> temporizer, check the kworker ppa repository it self.
[01:47] <Guest14440> hi, one question.. as it seems any web server is running on my ubuntu (localhost shows "It works!..." but i stopped apache2 und lampp...but any server must still be running. how can i find out which one?
[01:47] <wan> thanks, i'll try it - but it's more than corrupted splash screen - monitor just goes to suspended mode, and whole computer hangs - and thats due to damaged graphic card, but i'll try it, thanks
[01:47] <TiMiDo> temporizer https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=kworker
[01:47] <temporizer> TiMiDo, how exactly do i do that?
[01:49] <TiMiDo> temporizer, saw you're answer?
[01:50] <euc> Asking again… Hi, I have a VIA KM400 graphics chipset. How can I use Compiz with it? When I try, I get: Fatal: Support for non power of two textures missing. Thanks for any help you can give!
[01:50] <TiMiDo> euc, what drivers are you using?
[01:50] <TiMiDo> on you're xorg?
[01:50] <TiMiDo> conf?
[01:51] <temporizer> so no. no fix... yet.
[01:51] <Ibyss> I can't wait to upgrade my hardware, I badly want to use gnome.
[01:51] <computa_mike> hi - Anyone there used Bombono?  I'm writing a DVD but the video is all corrupted and rubbish.  It's totally nothing like the original source video.  Running Ubuntu 11.10.   Is this going to be an upstream thing?
[01:51] <euc> OpenChrome
[01:52] <MooseRFun> Ibyss: you don't need much hardware to run gnome, unity perhaps yes though
[01:52] <Ibyss> MooseRFun: I'm on a pentium 4 computer :(
[01:52] <MooseRFun> Ibyss: thats not bad, plenty for gnome, I ran linux on p4 for quite some time and it ran well
[01:53] <Ibyss> MooseRFun: I like gnome 3 though. I hate to be in a future freeze.
[01:53] <euc> Timido: OpenChrome, yes.
[01:53] <TiMiDo> euc, openchrome?
[01:53] <euc> TiMiDo: Sorry, what do you mean by 'conf?'?
[01:53] <euc> TiMiDo, yup
[01:54] <TiMiDo> euc, what error do you get while running compiz how are you running it?
[01:54] <euc> TiMiDo: 1:0.2.904+svn842-0ubuntu1
[01:55] <MooseRFun> Ibyss, does gnome 3 use unity by default?
[01:56] <Ibyss> MooseRFun: I thought unity is a modified version of gnome3.
[01:56] <WhyWhyWhy> arnt those for tablets?
[01:56] <WhyWhyWhy> gnome 2 is for desktops i think
[01:56] <MooseRFun> *shrug* not sure.
[01:56] <Clayman1000x> TiMiDo, how do I get you that output
[01:57] <Ibyss> Gnome 3 and unity are different.
[01:57] <Ibyss> Unifty is a fork.
[01:57] <milamber> lbyss: unity is not a fork of gnome 3
[01:58] <kroq-gar78> lybss: unity isn't a fork.
[01:58] <milamber> MooseRFun: ubuntu uses unity by default
[01:58] <kroq-gar78> Ibyss: it's completely different. Just uses Nux and some other stuff. I'm pretty sure it uses GTK3 (was gtk2)
[01:58] <milamber> !nounity | MooseRFun
[01:59] <Clayman1000x> the dmesg output
[01:59] <Clayman1000x> I have it on notepad now
[01:59] <euc> TiMiDo: oops, sorry. I just accidentally killed the fallback wm and had to use copy-and-paste to construct a command to restart it because I didn't have any keyboard focus…
[02:00] <boldfilter> Are there plans to makes unity for customizable?
[02:00] <kroq-gar78> Hello all. It seems my bzr repo got corrupted and I can't do anything. I always get this error message: bzr: ERROR: Config file file:///home/kroq-gar78/prog/python/primes/trunk/.bzr/branch/branch.conf is not UTF-8 encoded. Can anyone help please?
[02:00] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: why not?
[02:01] <boldfilter> Thats all thats stopping me from using it
[02:01] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: I would be surprised if there wasn't. There are always 3rd party config programs.
[02:01] <euc> TiMiDo: I'm running: 'compiz'; it outputs: compiz (core) - Fatal: Support for non power of two textures missing compiz (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0 compiz (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0.0 Launching fallback window manager
[02:01] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: what do you want customized?
[02:01] <boldfilter> And a classic launcher option
[02:01] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: like in GNOME 2?
[02:01] <boldfilter> I want to be able to move it and a classic launcher
[02:02] <boldfilter> thats all I want, nothingg fancy
[02:02] <TiMiDo> !paste
[02:02] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, ;)
[02:03] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: there's an extension that I'm using that moves launcher to bottom (no top or left, sry). Here is the link: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html
[02:03] <Guest14440> any suggestions?.. as it seems any web server is running on my ubuntu (localhost shows "It works!...") but i stopped apache2 and lampp...but any server must still be running. how can i find out which one?
[02:03] <TheHackOps> Hiya people
[02:03] <MooseRFun> milamber: I tried 11.10, but switched to a ubuntu derivative
[02:04] <boldfilter> And an option to disabe the unity launcher completely if id rather us docky etc
[02:04] <kroq-gar78> Guest14440: it's obviously using port 8080
[02:04] <TheHackOps> Just about to ask about 11.10, is it fast enough now to run on a medium speced laptop ?
[02:04] <kroq-gar78> Guest14440: that's the start ;) I'm looking up stuff now
[02:05] <TheHackOps> as far as flgrx and unity
[02:05] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: have to be more specific
[02:05] <Captain_Crow> Is there any way to get the cube to work on ubuntu 11.10?
[02:05] <TheHackOps> Visual Lag
[02:05] <milamber> Guest14440: can you pastebin the output of: sudo service httpd status && ps au | grep httpd
[02:05] <MooseRFun> Captain_Crow: compiz settings
[02:05] <kroq-gar78> Captain_Crow: use compiz-config-session-manager
[02:05] <TiMiDo> yeah Captain_Crow with compiz
[02:05] <TiMiDo> ;)
[02:05] <kroq-gar78> lol three at onece
[02:05] <Guest14440> thanks, and one sec pls
[02:05] <TiMiDo> yeah
[02:05] <TiMiDo> ;)
[02:05] <TiMiDo> nice helpers
[02:05] <milamber> TheHackOps: yes it should be fine
[02:05] <Captain_Crow> i did, i get a blank screen with no top or side bar
[02:05] <TheHackOps> 10.10 is being amazing to me soo i would only update if its as smooth as the old interface
[02:06] <boldfilter> Is there a place I could post my suggestions on what I think unity should be
[02:06] <kroq-gar78> Guset14440: I think this works too "netstat –tlnp | grep 8080"
[02:06] <Captain_Crow> i even tried restarting and it just comes back up with the background and nothing else
[02:06] <milamber> !launchpad | boldfilter
[02:06] <TheHackOps> Hmmmm Ok ill maybe dual boot it and see what happens
[02:07] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: wait don't
[02:07] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: do a live image first. See how it runs. Then, if you use windows, try doing a wubi install.
[02:07] <TheHackOps> why?
[02:07] <macguges> Hi, I don't get any dhcpoffers for wifi. Could someone help me troubleshoot wireless?
[02:07] <TheHackOps> No im ubuntu only house
[02:07] <TheHackOps> soz
[02:07] <Guest14440> milamber: httpd: unrecognized service. i'll try kroq-gar78s command
[02:08] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: ah nvm them. Still, try running through a live image.
[02:08] <Captain_Crow> what else do i have to do to make the cube work properly?
[02:08] <TheHackOps> kroq-gar78, Virtual box?
[02:08] <TiMiDo> !pastebin Clayman1000x
[02:08] <TiMiDo> !paste Clayman1000x
[02:08] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: no. burn a Live CD or make a Live USB.
[02:08] <TheHackOps> ohh yeh forgot about those
[02:08] <kroq-gar78> !pastebin | Clayman1000x
[02:08] <milamber> Guest14440: ok, but before we go down this route, you did refresh the page right?
[02:08] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: heh :P
[02:08] <TiMiDo> Guest14440 sudo apt-get install apache2
[02:09] <Guest14440> milamber: yes i did ^^
[02:09] <kroq-gar78> milamber: lol
[02:09] <TheHackOps> kroq-gar78, sometimes the images i download don't have the "Try" option i find it a hit and miss is their anyway to tell whats what
[02:09] <TiMiDo> and you're good to go
[02:09] <macguges> nvm I connected.
[02:09] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: Probably means a corrupted image.
[02:09] <milamber> Guest14440: ok, crazier things have happened
[02:10] <TheHackOps> kroq-gar78, well it allways installs fine ;)
[02:10] <TiMiDo> I'm lagged as hell
[02:10] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: just means you have to re-download :(
[02:10] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: oh, I don't know then.
[02:10] <TheHackOps> kroq-gar78, Seem's some are guiless installers
[02:10] <milamber> Guest14440: sudo service apache2 status
[02:10] <Clayman1000x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/777009/
[02:11] <milamber> Guest14440: ps au | grep httpd
[02:11] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: that means you're downloading the wrong image
[02:11] <Clayman1000x> that is neat
[02:11] <TheHackOps> Im rebooting from a Kernal update Wish me luck coz this may corrupt my system :)
[02:11] <Guest14440> milamber: Apache2 is NOT running
[02:11] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: good luck!
[02:11] <TheHackOps> kroq-gar78, whats the right image?
[02:11] <TheHackOps> brb
[02:11] <kroq-gar78> TheHackOps: desktop something... ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso or whatever.
[02:12] <kroq-gar78> oh oops
[02:12] <TiMiDo> now i'm no longer lagged
[02:12] <TiMiDo> ;)
[02:12] <kroq-gar78> yay
[02:12] <quinnwang> i
[02:12] <milamber> Guest14440: if you are getting the 'it works' page then what is happening?
[02:12] <TiMiDo> ~tell Clayman1000x about paste
[02:13] <ImTheDude_> hello
[02:13] <kroq-gar78> TiMiDo: the format is !{whatever command} | {user}
[02:13] <Guest14440> milamber: what do you mean? the page is displayed, thats all.
[02:13] <Clayman1000x> it is at pastebin
[02:13] <TiMiDo> cool ;)
[02:13] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, just paste it some where
[02:13] <kroq-gar78> lol
[02:14] <TiMiDo> and show me the link
[02:14] <TiMiDo> do not send it to me via DCC
[02:14] <Clayman1000x> here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/777009/
[02:14] <Clayman1000x> isn't this what you meant
[02:14] <TiMiDo> [    0.131430] pci 0000:00:02.0:   bridge window [io  disabled]
[02:14] <TiMiDo> ;)
[02:14] <TiMiDo> line 57
[02:15] <kroq-gar78> boldfilter: http://joesteiger.com/2011/06/18/install-classic-style-menu-cardapio-in-unity-launcher-2/ I think that's what you're looking for
[02:17] <JulianR> Excuse me, I have this partition in here (the one that had the bad sector)
[02:17] <bitf>  Hi. I have an ancient dell with a intel 82865G graphics controller. I can log in fine, but once I'm logged in I can't launch programs and mousing over icons causes them to disappear (note I'm using GNOME and everything worked the first use after install) Reinstalling did nothing and it passed a memtest. Any ideas as to the problem? Thanks.
[02:17] <JulianR> And I can't change the permissions
[02:17] <JulianR> Well I changed them with "sudo nautilus" and the permissions tab
[02:17] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, amd 64?
[02:17] <JulianR> but for example, I can't paste any document from other disks.
[02:18] <TiMiDo> JulianR, man chmod
[02:18] <Clayman1000x> yes
[02:18] <TiMiDo> ok
[02:19] <TheHackOps> update went ok with one problem
[02:19] <JulianR> TiMiDo, okay, the route to the that filesystem doesn't change everytime I mount it?
[02:19] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, what release?
[02:19] <TheHackOps> Masive screen lag now
[02:19] <TiMiDo> JulianR, take a look at /etc/fstab
[02:19] <TiMiDo> you'll find you'r answer there
[02:19] <Clayman1000x> 11.10, is that what you mean
[02:19] <TiMiDo> yeah Clayman1000x
[02:20] <TiMiDo> type sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.0.0-12-server
[02:20] <TiMiDo> sorry it was sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic
[02:20] <TiMiDo> so you can get you'r graphic card working better ;)
[02:20] <TheHackOps> TiMiDo, Why when i updated did i get massive screen lag
[02:20] <Clayman1000x> grapfics card?
[02:20] <TheHackOps> im on 10.10 still
[02:21] <TheHackOps> just used the update manager
[02:21] <TiMiDo> Clayman1000x, yeah so you're driver can work better
[02:21] <Clayman1000x> I need a wireless usb driver for the WNA3100 from netgear
[02:21] <TiMiDo> oh ok i though you we're bugging for you're xorg conf
[02:21] <TheHackOps> google
[02:21] <TiMiDo> ;)
[02:21] <JulianR> Thank you TiMiDo
[02:22] <Clayman1000x> graphics card works fine for now
[02:22] <TiMiDo> no problem JulianR ;)
[02:22] <Clayman1000x> I can't get internet
[02:22] <TheHackOps> TiMiDo, could u help me
[02:22] <Spadeski> is there a tool that allows you too get a color on the screen like GetColor! ffor XP?
[02:22] <TiMiDo> TheHackOps, can god help me?
[02:22] <TiMiDo> lol
[02:22] <TiMiDo> j/k
[02:22] <TheHackOps> Spadeski, Yes theirs one for firefox
[02:23] <Spadeski> Really do you know the name ?
[02:23] <TheHackOps> Let me check
[02:23] <TheHackOps> i have it
[02:23]  * Captain_Crow cant get compiz features to work with ubuntu w/o crashing the computer
[02:23] <TheHackOps> Spadeski, http://www.colorzilla.com/firefox/
[02:24] <Spadeski> TheHackOps Thanks Alot :D
[02:24] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, lol
[02:24] <TheHackOps> kkk
[02:24] <TiMiDo> shame on compiz
[02:24] <TheHackOps> TiMiDo, God helped u now can u plz help me :-0
[02:24] <TiMiDo> alright,
[02:25] <TiMiDo> ;) ask
[02:25] <TiMiDo> ahead ;)
[02:25] <TheHackOps> TiMiDo, Since i just updated 5 min ago i am getting rly bad screen lag
[02:25] <TiMiDo> TheHackOps, find out why wth dmesg or tail | dmesg
[02:26] <Captain_Crow> idk what im doing wrong, but i cant get any of the features to work except wobbly windows, and when i try anything else the computer just crashes and i cant do anything untill I reinstall ubuntu again
[02:28] <TheHackOps> TiMiDo, how do i know whats what lol
[02:28] <bitf> Hi. I have an ancient dell with a intel 82865G graphics controller. I can log in fine, but once I'm logged in I can't launch programs and mousing over icons causes them to disappear (note I'm using GNOME and everything worked the first use after install) Reinstalling did nothing and it passed a memtest. Any ideas as to the problem? Thanks.
[02:28] <kroq-gar78> Hello all. It seems my bzr repo got corrupted and I can't do anything. I always get this error message: bzr: ERROR: Config file file:///home/kroq-gar78/prog/python/primes/trunk/.bzr/branch/branch.conf is not UTF-8 encoded. Can anyone help please?
[02:28] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, sudo apt-get install python-compizconfig
[02:29] <Captain_Crow> how do i bring up the terminal?
[02:29] <Captain_Crow> theres no bar on the left now
[02:30] <TheHackOps> Alt F2
[02:30] <TiMiDo> configure compiz Captain_Crow
[02:30] <TiMiDo> you need to enable it
[02:31] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[02:35] <dimas_> is there any way to turn off the screen saver while i am watching a video perhaps in youtube?
[02:35] <TheHackOps> dim_, specificly when your watching youtube?
[02:35] <dimas_> perhaps
[02:36] <TheHackOps> dimas_, Uuhh no sorry
[02:36] <bitf> dimas_: in general, caffeine is what you want
[02:36] <dimas_> there os no way to turn off the screen saver while i am using flash player?
[02:36] <xTheGoat121x> I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 (supposedly) 64-bit. Is the i686 kernel 64-bit?
[02:36] <bitf> no
[02:37] <TheHackOps> nope
[02:37] <Captain_Crow> i pressed alt+f2 and nothing happend, the only things on the screen are "file, edit, view, go, bookmark, help" and the background
[02:37] <train9854> dim_: go to screen and youll find options to turn it of there
[02:37] <xTheGoat121x> Then why did it install the i696 kernel
[02:37] <xTheGoat121x> *686
[02:37] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Type xterm
[02:37] <dimas_> train oke
[02:37] <TheHackOps> i need my screen lag problem solved plz someone its rly anoying
[02:37] <Captain_Crow> type it where?
[02:38] <dimas_> but the question was if it was a way to set it up to turn off when i am playing a video in the browser
[02:38] <TheHackOps> Alt F2 / Run Application / "xterm"
[02:38] <TheHackOps> Alt+F2 / Run Application / "xterm"
[02:39] <Captain_Crow> alt+f2 wont bring anything up
[02:39] <TheHackOps> what are you on?
[02:39] <TheHackOps> 11 or 10
[02:39] <dimas_> thanks guys...laterz;)
[02:39] <Captain_Crow> 11.10
[02:39] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Laptop? or desktop
[02:39] <Captain_Crow> the most recent one
[02:39] <Captain_Crow> laptop
[02:40] <TheHackOps> ohh k
[02:40] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Press Alt+fn+F2
[02:40] <Docd> hi there
[02:40] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Did it come up?, if it did type gnome-terminal
[02:40] <Captain_Crow> it still didnt work
[02:40] <TheHackOps> Docd, Hiya
[02:41] <Captain_Crow> and its a normal f2 button w/o the need to use fn
[02:41] <xTheGoat121x> I downloaded the ISO for 64 bit Ubuntu but it seems to have installed a 32-bit kernel, despite the fact that I have a 64-bit processor. Any idea why this happened
[02:41] <Docd> i have a... situation
[02:41] <Docd> i just updated from 11.04 to 11.10
[02:41] <Docd> had internet on gnome2, have internet on kde
[02:41] <Docd> but no internet on gnome3
[02:42] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, seems It was disabled in gnome3 by default :(
[02:42] <Docd> anyone has an idea what might be going on?
[02:43] <TheHackOps> Docd, Terminal/ ifconfig
[02:43] <Docd> just io
[02:43] <TheHackOps> DAM U SCREEN LAG
[02:43] <Docd> lo
[02:43] <MechanisM> hello a few weeks ago my system startaed strange behaviour: all windows opens maximized fullscreen by default. how to solve this?
[02:43] <Captain_Crow> idk how to even get the normal desktop back, and alt+f2 isnt working
[02:44] <TheHackOps> MechanisM, do u have compiz installed
[02:44] <MechanisM> yep
[02:44] <MechanisM> unity using compiz right?
[02:44] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Uhh try logging out and changing the environment to like classic
[02:44] <MechanisM> TheHackOps so i have compiz
[02:44] <TheHackOps> MechanisM, Yea. Check your settings in ccsm
[02:45] <Captain_Crow> theres no logout button
[02:45] <TheHackOps> Lol
[02:45] <TheHackOps> reboot
[02:45] <Captain_Crow> no shut down or anything
[02:45] <TheHackOps> On ur laptop
[02:45] <TheHackOps> press the off buton quickly
[02:45] <pehden> ok guys looking for a room other then #ispconfig that has support for ispconfig
[02:45] <TheHackOps> it will bring up a menu
[02:45] <MechanisM> TheHackOps which setting?
[02:45] <Captain_Crow> ok, a shut down box came up
[02:45] <TheHackOps> MechanisM, Beats me but i have seen one for that
[02:46] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, do some pushups and have a party ?
[02:46] <Captain_Crow> restarting
[02:46] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, srs though logout
[02:46] <TheHackOps> :)
[02:47] <Captain_Crow> im on the same screen, how do i log out?
[02:48] <TheHackOps> What didn't you reboot?
[02:48] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Pull the freakin battery out
[02:49] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, very much faster
[02:49] <Captain_Crow> it crashed, and i turned the power back on and now im at a log in screen
[02:50] <TheHackOps> ok good
[02:50] <TheHackOps> Down the bottom their should be an option to change the Environment type
[02:50] <Captain_Crow> theres a gear on the middle left with 2 options, ubuntu and ubunu2d
[02:50] <TheHackOps> LOL
[02:51] <TheHackOps> Must have removed it in the new version
[02:51] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, Hold on googling
[02:52] <TheHackOps> Guess what sir? they removed it from 11.10 sucks for you
[02:53] <boldfilter> Cool story bro
[02:55] <Bublik2002> lol
[02:55] <Captain_Crow> so compiz doesnt work in 11.10?
[02:55] <boldfilter> 11.10 is just different, it doesn't suck parsy
[02:56] <Bublik2002> i just wish it came with gnome shell stock and unity as an option
[02:58]  * Captain_Crow wishes he had his desktop back
[02:58]  * TheHackOps wishes i had no screen lag
[02:59] <Captain_Crow> so i have to install the old version of ubuntu for it to work right?
[03:01] <TheHackOps> Captain_Crow, or you could spend alot of time googleing
[03:02] <TheHackOps> Anyone know why when i drag a window it lags like craazy
[03:02] <pp7> OMG
[03:02] <pp7> i have the same problem
[03:02] <pp7> and I hate it
[03:02] <Sash^> guys, really strange question
[03:02] <TheHackOps> It happened to me since the last update of 10.10
[03:02] <pp7> TheHackOps: hmm happened to me since 11.10 (fresh install)
[03:03] <TheHackOps> Very wierd
[03:03] <TheHackOps> im going to go back to an older kernal version see what happens
[03:03] <TheHackOps> brb
[03:03] <pp7> TheHackOps: someone on youtube suggested doing unity --replace > /dev/null &
[03:04] <gnul0ver> im using fedora and ubuntu :)
[03:04] <pp7> TheHackOps: i did that and it seems ok so far but i haven't been long enought since last time i restarted unity
[03:04] <Sash^> Random Question: If you had 10,000 people in one chatroom (hypothetically) - what would you use to moderate the flow of text (its for a uni project, and all i have come up with so far is a slider bar thats allowing a user to adjust the speed of the flow of text, but keeping it real time (just not real time!)) I consider it to be unmangiable in the sense that you could not even have 10% of those talking at any one time, what would be bes
[03:04] <pp7> TheHackOps: the lag seems to only happen to me after a while
[03:04] <gnul0ver> ubuntu server
[03:04] <Captain_Crow> is 11.10 a bad version then?
[03:05] <pp7> Captain_Crow: depends how u look at it :P
[03:05] <Sash^> anyone? ;/
[03:05] <pp7> Captain_Crow: i like it but there are just a few annoying bugs
[03:05] <Sash^> :(
[03:05] <Captain_Crow> it seems extremely buggy to me...
[03:06] <pp7> TheHackOps: if u find the solution pls pm me
[03:07] <h00k> Sash^: thisisn't the channel for that :( you can perhaps check somewhere else
[03:07] <Sash^> any idea where h00k ?
[03:07] <h00k> ubottu: tell Sash^ about alis
[03:07] <pp7> Sash^: just somewhere else
[03:08] <Sash^> cheers
[03:08] <Sash^> pp7
[03:08] <Sash^> nice
[03:08] <Stepnjump> Hi, I have a friend who has a 56k modem. I looked up on internet and couldn't find the drivers anywhere. Any suggestions? Next time I talk to him, I will get him to lsusb to see if Ubuntu detects at least the connection. His modem is a Lamaqq and model is WS-5614UVSG. Thanks
[03:08] <Quagmire> giggity
[03:10] <Captain_Crow> is there any way to restore default settings to compiz through "ubuntu 2d" mode so that i can bring the normal ubuntu desktop back up?
[03:10] <OerHeks> !nounity
[03:11] <vouth> Hi, when I try to build Mesa  from source, it fails with this error: http://pastebin.com/UFcpHx7s My config.log is: http://pastebin.com/qw7B0QaA
[03:11] <vouth> Any thoughts?
[03:12] <OerHeks> please dont SPAM in my PM <Rapeseed>
[03:12] <OerHeks> please dont SPAM in my PM <Rapeseed>
[03:12] <Captain_Crow> he's doing that the everyone
[03:12] <OerHeks> !pm |  <Rapeseed>
 Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[03:14] <shaneo> hey guys where could if i have lm-sensors installed where on my syetem would the src be
[03:14] <TiMiDo> shaneo, locate lm-sensors
[03:15] <shaneo> which file is the src file
[03:15] <Rapeseed> Mitt Romney will change the course of American economic policy and get America back to work!  It is at once a deeply conservative return to policies that have served our nation well and a highly ambitious departure from the policies of our current leadership. In short, it is a plan to get America back to work. Vote Mitt Romney 2012! http://www.mittromney.com
[03:15] <LasNote> Is there any easy way to upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit?
[03:16] <OerHeks> you need to download the src manually
[03:16] <OerHeks> LasNote, no, only reinstall possible if you change arch
[03:16] <LasNote> crappo
[03:16] <LasNote> thanks
[03:16] <shaneo> LasNote yeah just pop in a 64 bit and select upgrade during install
[03:16] <OerHeks> or sude-by-side
[03:16] <shaneo> worked for me
[03:17] <LasNote> is there any easy way to tell if my system can do 64 bit?
[03:17] <vouth> Hi, when I try to build Mesa  from source, it fails with this error: http://pastebin.com/UFcpHx7s My config.log from that was: http://pastebin.com/qw7B0QaA
[03:17] <shaneo> how old is it
[03:17] <LasNote> acer notebook
[03:17] <shaneo> how old LasNote
[03:17]  * vouth will change the course of Martian economic policy and get all those little green men back to bed!
[03:18] <vouth> sorry, couldn't resist :-D
[03:18] <LasNote> hrrm, 3 years I think
[03:18] <OerHeks> better ask what type processor
[03:18] <shaneo> if its it the last 4 years it will handle 64 bit
[03:18] <OerHeks> shaneo stop that nonsense
[03:18] <OerHeks> upgrade sugestion is wrong, age of laptop either.
[03:19] <TiMiDo> nice back to my ipod touch
[03:19] <TiMiDo> ;)
[03:19] <OerHeks> Lasnote what type of processor ?
[03:19] <shaneo> worked for me
[03:19] <TiMiDo> vouth, why are you running ./configure as root?
[03:19] <Jeaton> anyone here use tovid?
[03:20] <TiMiDo> to fix it download gcc sudo apt-get install gcc
[03:20] <vouth> TiMiDo: I read on a forum that it helped someone
[03:20] <TiMiDo> no man
[03:20] <TiMiDo> never run ./configure as root
[03:20] <TiMiDo> bad idea
[03:21] <TiMiDo> checking whether the C compiler works... no very clear message ;)
[03:21] <shaullx> Got a problem with ProFTPD, got no access on doing anything while on the ftp (del,chmod etc.), tried chowning the folder, didn't work, any ideas?
[03:21] <vouth> TiMiDo: Ok. Sounds good. I already have gcc as the "latest version" according to apt-get
[03:21] <TiMiDo> now vouth type ./configure as normal user
[03:21] <TiMiDo> and see if the libraries you have them in you'r system.
[03:22]  * Captain_Crow thinks the download center should leave an option to exclude incompatible programs with the version of ubuntu being used...
[03:22] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, and users should read before upgrading there system ;)
[03:22] <vouth> TiMiDo: same result
[03:22] <TiMiDo> and the complication you might have
[03:23] <TiMiDo> vouth, now paste the config.log
[03:23] <TiMiDo> to any where
[03:23] <Captain_Crow> but i thought the idea of getting ubuntu was because it was free and user-friendly...
[03:24] <TiMiDo> yes it is user friendly but is not very friendly in terms when you upgrade to a beta version expect all the apps to be running smoothly ;)
[03:24] <OerHeks> Captain_Crow, if you want stable versions, stick to the LTS
[03:24] <Captain_Crow> i didnt know it was a beta version
[03:24] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, that's why you read before any upgrade
[03:24] <TiMiDo> to calculate any libraries issues or not with aptitude or apt it self
[03:25] <Captain_Crow> idk what LTS is
[03:25] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, www.ubuntu.com
[03:25] <OerHeks> !lts
[03:25] <vouth> TiMiDo: http://pastebin.com/XkqnayX0
[03:26] <TiMiDo> vouth, what are you compiling by the way some mesa drivers?
[03:26] <TiMiDo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:26] <TiMiDo> or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[03:27] <Captain_Crow> what does it mean by "supported" does it stop working after 3 years or something?
[03:27] <vouth> TiMiDo: I'm using a VIA chipset that's not supported by the version of Mesa supplied with 10.10
[03:27] <OerHeks> updates stop
[03:28] <TiMiDo> no when people upgrade to testing is because they know there way back just in case something wrong happens
[03:28] <vouth> TiMiDo: Compiz etc therefore aren't working
[03:28] <boldfilter> Whatever 11.10 isnt beta
[03:28] <Docd> hi, i just updated to 11.10 and have no wireless connections
[03:28] <TiMiDo> you downgrade
[03:28] <TiMiDo> ;)
[03:28] <Docd> kernel 3.0.0-14, broadcom BCM4313
[03:28] <TiMiDo> vouth, read the links i just give you
[03:29] <Docd> any idea what can I do?
[03:29] <TiMiDo> that's why IRC is so quiet ;)
[03:29] <TiMiDo> hahahaha
[03:29] <khaime_> I am running ubuntu 10.10 on a hp compaq nc6220 who has a built-in "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [ Calexico2 ] Network Conneciton" ...........i read that the ipw200 driver is the driver to make this work, and that it is a part of the kernel of 10.10.........but for some reason I can not get it to work....also on this laptop , the wirelss and the bluetooth are integrated...i can turn on the bluetooth , but i can not turn on t
[03:29] <khaime_> he wireless.....when I do a "lshw -C network" it shows : "*-network DISABLED"  for the wireless....can anyone help ?   thanks in advance !
[03:29] <TiMiDo> khaime_, check dmesg
[03:29] <TiMiDo> to see if you have any driver issues
[03:30] <TiMiDo> or use fglrxinfo
[03:31] <Captain_Crow> so its best to download the older version?
[03:31] <OerHeks> khaime_, maybe this page is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[03:31] <TiMiDo> if you want a stable version yes
[03:31] <vouth> TiMiDo: Well, they're both about ATI. This is a VIA KM400.
[03:31] <vouth> TiMiDo: Should I try the ATI drivers anyway?
[03:31] <rypervenche> Docd: Try installing firmware-b43-installer
[03:31] <TiMiDo> vouth, intel/amd?
[03:32] <TiMiDo> vouth, yeah give it a go
[03:32] <TiMiDo> in windows those are the drivers they use
[03:32] <TiMiDo> ATI drivers
[03:32] <vouth> TiMiDo: amd
[03:32] <TiMiDo> then yeah ;)
[03:32] <r_tarandus> There's a delay when I tap-to-click. I tap, then about a 1/2 second later, it'll click. When I use the hard button, there's no problem. Suggestions?
[03:32] <TiMiDo> check it out, and see where it goes. ;)
[03:32] <Captain_Crow> will the stable version work with wine and compiz?
[03:32] <TiMiDo> yes Captain_Crow
[03:32] <Docd> rypervenche, apt-get --reinstall returned this Unsupported device(s) found: PCI id 14e4:4727
[03:32] <TiMiDo> every release has wine and compiz enable ;)
[03:33] <boldfilter> Captain_Crow: Have you ever considered Mint Linux?
[03:33] <Captain_Crow> no, i just heared of linux a few weeks ago
[03:33] <xangua> Captain_Crow: latest stable is 11.10
[03:33] <xangua> boldfilter: can we stick to the topic¿
[03:34] <boldfilter> lolz
[03:34] <r_tarandus> RE: Other distros: It's funny because I won't switch from Ubuntu since I like the Unity interface. It's so damn beautiful, which is funny cause I hear of many who are using GNOME/others instead.
[03:34] <boldfilter> Hey, if he's complaining about the user experience??
[03:34] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, even better download fglrx-updates
[03:34] <khaime_> OerHeks, the "nm-tool" shows that the wireless is "eth1", it shows the driver as " ipw2200", but the "state" says it is "unavailable"
[03:35] <TiMiDo> with sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[03:35] <TiMiDo> and you're good
[03:35] <Docd> i guess i have to use the wl driver?
[03:35] <boldfilter> r_tarandus: congratulations
[03:35] <TiMiDo> khaime_, how are you connecting you'r wireless?
[03:35] <h00k> ubottu: offtopic | let's keep things on topic, please
[03:36] <cypher-neo> r_tarandus, I like Unity too. I've liked it since it first came out. The only reason I switched to GNOME-Shell was flexibility in customizing the user interface.
[03:36] <khaime_> TimiDo ....what do you mean ?
[03:36] <TiMiDo> khaime_, how are you scanning you're wireless connections?
[03:36] <vouth> TiMiDo: Ok, I'm downloading fglrx. It's pretty big!
[03:36] <khaime_> TimiDo, I can't even turn on the wireless to scan
[03:36] <TiMiDo> khaime_, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:37] <TiMiDo> and pray it works
[03:37] <khaime_> output was : "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flasgs: No such device"
[03:38] <khaime_> the wireless is connect to "eth1" , should I have used that instead of "wlan0"
[03:38] <TiMiDo> now type dmesg | tail
[03:39] <TiMiDo> do you get any hints there khaime_ ?
[03:39] <khaime_> TimiDo, I got a lot of : "Skipping EDID probe due to cached edid"
[03:40] <TiMiDo> paste it here
[03:40] <TiMiDo> !paste
[03:41] <Docd> help anyone?
[03:42] <TiMiDo> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset
[03:42] <TiMiDo> nice hahahaha
[03:42] <TiMiDo> that driver sucks
[03:43] <Khaime> http://paste.ubuntu.com/777040/
[03:43] <Khaime> TimiDo : http://paste.ubuntu.com/777040/
[03:43] <boldfilter> Idk I'll personally use unity in a virtual machine until I feel it is practical enough
[03:43] <kahlil> l
[03:44] <TiMiDo> Khaime,   echo options ipw2200 led=1 | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200
[03:44] <jen> where can I get linux screensavers?
[03:45] <TiMiDo> jen, art.gnome.org
[03:46] <TiMiDo> and if that does not work Khaime reboot your system and come back and tell us if it worked ;)
[03:46] <qisnitweird> cant enable flash in konqueror
[03:47] <jen> TiMiDo, and this is for ubuntu and all that?
[03:47] <jen> TiMiDo, and how do I install?
[03:48] <TiMiDo> jen, it depends on the theme you want
[03:48] <TiMiDo> you have gtk themes gdm themes and much more
[03:48] <jen> i have a wolf startup screen one picked out
[03:48] <TiMiDo> oh then that's a bootsplash
[03:48] <vouth> TiMiDo: I just restarted after installing the new driver. Nothing seems to have changed.
[03:49] <jen> how shall I install that?
[03:49] <TiMiDo> jen, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11478.html
[03:49] <TiMiDo> very simple ;)
[03:51] <vouth> TiMiDo: Should I keep trying to build Mesa?
[03:51] <jen> ummm im a newbie ill have my friend help me with it ^^"
[03:51] <TiMiDo> vouth, yeah or apt-cache search mesa and see the drivers it has
[03:51] <jen> but thank you! :3
[03:52] <TiMiDo> jen, if you read the site i just post you. is easy as ABC!123 or my favorite one "Hello+World:"
[03:53] <vouth> TiMiDo: There's a pretty big mesa drivers there (pardon the pun), but they'll all be out of date.
[03:53] <FreezingCold>  k guys I need some huge help, I lost a school related file.  It has the word "keyboard" in it, that's all I know for sure...  How can I find it?
[03:53] <Guest84604> hello friends
[03:53] <MRomney2012> Mitt Romney will change the course of American economic policy and get America back to work!  It is at once a deeply conservative return to policies that have served our nation well and a highly ambitious departure from the policies of our current leadership. In short, it is a plan to get America back to work. Vote Mitt Romney 2012! http://www.mittromney.com
[03:53] <vouth> Oh well. I'll try tomorrow I guess. Thanks for the help!! :-)
[03:54] <Guest84604> i need help wirth ubuntu
[03:54] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: do you have a live CD?
[03:54] <FreezingCold> CarlFK: ummm, I'm running Linux now?
[03:54] <pinche> Help! I activated an Nvidia driver, rebooted and the system hangs on restart. How can I deactivate driver from cli?
[03:55] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: it is important that you do not use the file system that the deleted file was on
[03:55] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: do you have a live CD? [ ]yes [ ]no
[03:55] <FreezingCold> It wasn't deleted
[03:55] <FreezingCold> it's on my computer
[03:55] <FreezingCold> just don't know where
[03:55] <CarlFK> oh... lucky you.
[03:56] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: places, home, go, search for files
[03:57] <Clayman1000x> I am still haveing trouble, look here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/777046/
[03:57] <FreezingCold> tried ls -R *links* and didn't find anything
[03:57] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: hmm, maybe that just searches file names.. not what you need... hold some more
[03:57] <fer> please, i need help with xubuntu, with my monitor
[03:57] <FreezingCold> darnnn it, I realllly need this
[03:57] <CarlFK> FreezingCold: "keyboard" in it - is "it" the file name or contents ?
[03:59] <zivester> if i install an OS on one controller on my mobo, is there any reason i couldn't switch it to another controller later without any hiccups ?
[03:59] <MooseRFun> depends on OS
[03:59] <CarlFK> zivester: as long as the 2nd one is fairly standard (like most are) you are fine
[04:00] <CarlFK> well, assuming you install a stable OS, not one with built in hiccups :)
[04:00] <zivester> its gonna be an SSD install on the cheaper Marvell controller... gonna move it to the Intel after
[04:00] <zivester> is there anything in the install that is relevant to the controller, i guess that is my question
[04:00] <CarlFK> zivester: is the OS linux?
[04:01]  * zivester checks to see if he's in ubuntu
[04:01] <zivester> xubunto 11.10
[04:01]  * zivester can't type
[04:01] <TiMiDo> nice now my desktop looks nice
[04:01] <pinche> Help! I activated an Nvidia driver, rebooted and the system hangs on restart. How can I deactivate driver from cli?
[04:01] <MooseRFun> zivester: what kind of controller? If its SATA I think you would be ok, but if you switch to a different arch I wonder that might bork things
[04:02] <zivester> SATA III -> SATA III
[04:02] <TiMiDo> pinche, sudo rmmod nvidia
[04:02] <TiMiDo> or whatever driver you're having issues with.
[04:02] <Clayman1000x> I forgot exactly which command I used but the results showed my Netgear adapter and usb stick and my usbe keyboard mouse are there
[04:03] <pinche> TiMiDo, thanks i'll try it
[04:03] <Stepnjump> how to shutdown the computer after 5 minutes after no audio is heard by the system?
[04:03] <TiMiDo> pinche, and to load you're nvidia driver will be modprobe nvidia and then type nvidia-xconfig
[04:03] <TiMiDo> and you're good to go
[04:03] <Clayman1000x> I can't seem to get ndiswrapper to work
[04:04]  * Captain_Crow is going to try to reinstall ubuntu 11.10 one more time before trying 10.04
[04:04] <TiMiDo> Stepnjump, sudo halt
[04:04] <pinche> TiMiDo, just to confirm: sudo rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia && nvidia-xconfig. Correct?
[04:04] <TiMiDo> to shut it down
[04:04] <Stepnjump> thanks TiMiDo
[04:04] <TiMiDo> pinche, yeah
[04:04] <zivester> so how about migrating data from a / and /home directory on a hdd to an ssd... any issues with doing that... imsure ill have to change the fstab and install grub2 manually
[04:04] <Khaime> TimiDo...it did not work
[04:04] <Clayman1000x> I have all the drivers needed
[04:05] <boldfilter> IF I INSTALL 11.04 OVER 11.10 WILL IT RESTIRE MY DESKTOP
[04:05] <TiMiDo> Khaime, get fglrxinfo
[04:06] <MooseRFun> zivester: hrm I would think you would be ok, as long as the kernel still detects it under the same /dev entry, i.e. /dev/sda
[04:06] <TiMiDo> boldfilter, not unless you made a restore to you'r system
[04:06] <TiMiDo> and back it up
[04:06] <pinche> TiMiDo, I got FATAL: Error inseting nvidia_96 (/lib/modules/3.0.0-14-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_96.ko): Operation not permitted
[04:07] <TiMiDo> pinche, did you reboot it?
[04:07] <Captain_Crow> ubuntu sounds buggy and complicated...
[04:07] <Stepnjump> What are the arguments TiMiDo?
[04:07] <r_tarandus> So does anyone have suggestions on how to deal with the delay when using tap-to-click on a laptop?
[04:07] <Khaime> TiMiDo do I type "get fglrxinfo" in a command windows ?
[04:07] <TiMiDo> Stepnjump, sudo reboot
[04:07] <pinche> TiMiDo, rebooting now.
[04:07] <TiMiDo> ok pinche let me know how it goes ;)
[04:07] <pinche> TiMiDo, will do. thanks for your help.
[04:07] <r_tarandus> So does anyone have suggestions on how to deal with the delay when using tap-to-click on a laptop?
[04:07] <r_tarandus> oh shoot, it did send the first time
[04:08] <zivester> aiight.. now i hope my SSD upgrade is gonna blow my raid0 raptors away
[04:08] <TiMiDo> lol what type of delay?
[04:08] <Clayman1000x> @TiMiDo
[04:09] <TiMiDo> ??
[04:10] <bullgard4> Is the group bin in Ubuntu {only} maintained for historic reasons?
[04:10] <Clayman1000x> Anybody no what I am doing wrong?
[04:11] <TiMiDo> if you don't tell us what you're doing wrong, how can you expect people to help you,
[04:11] <pinche> TiMiDo, no luck. still hanging after reboot. I see the purple screen for a moment, as soon as the ubuntu logo shows up throws me to the boot screen
[04:11] <DrPenguin> hey there.. I had a quick question about kernel modules.. Im having an issue where I need to recompile a couple kernel modules with different header options for a kernel, but when I go to insert them into my kernel, I get a complaint that the module disagrees with the module_layout symbol.. Im not quite sure why its complaining since im using the source and headers of the kernel Im running. Is there a simpler way to rebuild kernel modul
[04:11] <WhyWhyWhy> hey guys this is Mark Zuckerberg
[04:12] <TiMiDo> pinche, paste your dmesg some where
[04:12] <MooseRFun> pinche: I wound uninstall the nvidia commercial drivers
[04:12] <TiMiDo> to check it out
[04:12] <WhyWhyWhy> i wanna switch to ubuntu from facebook
[04:12] <MooseRFun> lol
[04:12] <pinche> TiMiDo, last item on boot screen is Stopping Userspace bootsplash. Everything is on [OK] but the "Stopping automatic crash report generation
[04:12] <pinche> TiMiDo, sudo dmesg?
[04:12] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: your quick question was too long for IRC - it got truncated just as it got interesting :)
[04:12] <TiMiDo> pinche, as normal user
[04:13] <DrPenguin> aw lame! let me see if I can just sum it up
[04:13] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: or complete "Is there a simpler way to rebuild kernel modul..."
[04:13] <DrPenguin> I need to recompile parport.ko with the CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO option not enabled in the module. When I do so and try to insert that module (and lp, parport_pc, and ppdev), I get complaints that it disagrees with the version of the symbol module_layout, and im not sure why
[04:14] <TiMiDo> DrPenguin, what compiler are you using?
[04:14] <TiMiDo> gcc?
[04:14] <DrPenguin> yeah, I think its 4.4.3? its should be the latest release for lucid
[04:15] <DrPenguin> I can get the modules to work if I rebuild the entire kernel and just install that, but If I extract the modules and put them into the updates directory of my orignal kernel (same version), I get that error
[04:15] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: it should work - but I just did this last night: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten  "I did this (hopefully it's complete)"
[04:15] <TiMiDo> lol hardcore pawn is freaking funny as hell
[04:16] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: just compile the whole thing :)
[04:16] <DrPenguin> CarlFK: thats the thing, the original kernel needs to stay intact as it is, except for these module changes
[04:16] <DrPenguin> or else I would just replace the entire kernel
[04:16] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: define "orignial" ?
[04:16] <DrPenguin> the kernel that is in my OS image
[04:17] <CarlFK> where did it come from?
[04:17] <DrPenguin> Ah.. its from the lucid repositories
[04:17] <DrPenguin> 2.6.32-33-generic
[04:17] <CarlFK> what's wrong with compiling a new one?
[04:17] <pinche> TiMiDo, any ideas how I can paste dmesg? I can't ssh or scp from cli.
[04:17] <TiMiDo> !paste
[04:18] <DrPenguin> Well, to be honest, I shouldnt have to compile a brand spanking new kernel just to change 4 modues
[04:18] <DrPenguin> I should just be able to change the modules I want and just load them into my existing kernel image
[04:18] <TiMiDo> pinche, For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[04:19] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: so this is an emotional thing ;)
[04:19] <DrPenguin> CarlFK: Not really.. its kind of practicallity
[04:19] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: I would at least let that start compiling while you search for a better answer
[04:19] <DrPenguin> lets say in the future I need to change more modules, am I gonna have to (yet again) rebuild the entire thing from scratch? doesnt make sense
[04:19] <DrPenguin> Oh I already have it compiled..
[04:19] <CarlFK> pinche: dmesg|xclip (which you will need to apt-get install)
[04:20] <TiMiDo> DUH
[04:20] <TiMiDo> hahaha
[04:20] <TiMiDo> ;P
[04:20] <DrPenguin> But I just thought "theres no reason this is my only solution"
[04:20] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: donn't know.  oddly enough I needed to change 1 line in a module. I am fine with doing it again the next time.
[04:20] <DrPenguin> Im just thinking since im only doing a truncated portion of the kernel build, I must be skippin a step thats required to make sure all the information in the module is identical so it can be loaded
[04:21] <DrPenguin> the only thing I can think of is maybe sinceim changing a CONFIG value in .config, the Module.symvers now doesnt match which is causing the complaint
[04:21] <bullgard4> Is the group bin in Ubuntu {only} maintained for historic reasons?
[04:22] <pinche> TiMiDo, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/777062/
[04:22] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: sounds reasonable.  depends on how much time you want to invest.  how often do you plan on doing this?
[04:22] <DrPenguin> CarlFK: I dont "plan" on it ha, its just whenever it needs to be done
[04:23] <DrPenguin> This, for example, has to be done because Ubuntu is using an Experimental option (FIFO) for parallel ports which causes some ports to not work
[04:23] <DrPenguin> so it needs to be disabled and parport and associated modules need ot be rebuilt against it
[04:24] <TiMiDo> pinche, what laptop or pc are you using?
[04:24] <CarlFK> DrPenguin: you are welcome to hang out and hope someone knows.  it's fun helping people wile you wait :)
[04:24] <pinche> TiMiDo, PC I built around 3 years ago
[04:25] <TiMiDo> lOL
[04:25] <DrPenguin> CarlFK: it definitely is, I used to hang out in here, but work has kept me busy, that and now my Primary laptop is broken and geeksqud is refusing to fix it so its been a bit hectic for me :) but I thank you for your assistance
[04:25] <TiMiDo> pinche, apt-cache search nvidia
[04:26] <TiMiDo> use those drivers at own risk ;)
[04:26] <DrPenguin> I think what I may do tomorrow is get the symvers from my custom headers and retry building against that.. I forgot to change my makefile in my kern source dir so the vermagic was all wrong
[04:26] <TiMiDo> if you have a bug report it please pinche
[04:26] <pinche> TiMiDo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/777067/
[04:26] <r_tarandus> need some help in terminal. i'm in a directory but it's only listing half of the folders in it when entering "dir", meaning that i can't get into one of the folders
[04:27] <TiMiDo> pinche, read and choose you'r video card specs don't be lazy
[04:27] <SigMobile> What is an "input to command" in a cron entry?
[04:27] <pinche> TiMiDo, I'm not sure it's a bug. Install was working fine until I activated the Nvidia driver.
[04:27] <TiMiDo> then rmmod nvidia
[04:27] <DrPenguin> pinche: it may be worth it to poke through the Xorg.0.log, see if anything in there is weird
[04:28] <pinche> TiMiDo, after apt-cache search nvidia I can choose one of those and apt-get install? Is that what you mean?
[04:28]  * SigMobile slips out of sight
[04:29] <Guest77746> .
[04:29] <Guest77746> oops
[04:29] <TiMiDo> yes pinche
[04:29] <TiMiDo> with sudo apt-get install package
[04:29] <pinche> TiMiDo, thanks, could've said that before calling me lazy. :)
[04:29] <TiMiDo> pinche, i take it back then LOL
[04:29] <WhyWhyWhy> hey do u guys know a program for ubuntu simular to CPU-Z for windows? That shows info about the cpu/mobo accurate clock speed etc...
[04:30] <TiMiDo> WhyWhyWhy, gkrellm
[04:30] <TiMiDo> ;)
[04:30] <WhyWhyWhy> thanks ill check it out
[04:30] <DrPenguin> WhyWhyWhy: whats wrong with proc cpuinfo?
[04:30] <WhyWhyWhy> the what?
[04:30] <pinche> TiMiDo, I'm doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. I'll keep you posted.
[04:30] <DrPenguin>  /proc/cpuinfo
[04:31] <TiMiDo> but let him see the app ;)
[04:31] <DrPenguin> the /proc directory contains useful nuggets of info about your system
[04:31] <TiMiDo> of course cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:31] <TiMiDo> ;)
[04:31] <TiMiDo> but i like gkrellm just cause of the (GUI) interface
[04:31] <WhyWhyWhy> was looking for something with a front end that i can monitor live changes
[04:31] <DrPenguin> TiMiDo: 	oh yeah i have no issues with him using the app.. I was just curious
[04:31] <DrPenguin> WhyWhyWhy: conkys nice for that
[04:32] <TiMiDo> oh LoL
[04:32] <DrPenguin> conky jus basically reads proc, you can customize the crap out of it and its just embedded into your desktop
[04:32] <DrPenguin> I have a transparent conky on my Arch Bang OS
[04:32] <TiMiDo> arch is nice
[04:32] <TiMiDo> ;P
[04:32] <TiMiDo> <3 arch
[04:32] <TiMiDo> pacman -Syy
[04:32] <pinche> TiMiDo, after sudo apt-get install nvidia-current that will activate it as well? Just checking.
[04:33] <DrPenguin> Yeah, I need to do some kernel customization to it when I get it back, get rid of useless modules to sthrink it and maybe get some better boot times
[04:33] <DrPenguin> my laptop that is
[04:33] <TiMiDo> pinche, sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[04:33] <Guest77746> err freenode staff banned me from all relevant channels. i copied a snippet of hot damn C code from C for dummies. http://codepad.org/VdIPNwp7 ,,, it compiles on codepad, but why wont it compile on my 1337 backtrack? i have gcc; ive spent 10 minutes of my life tryin to figure it out too!!! PSORT.C: In function ‘int main()’:
[04:33] <Guest77746> PSORT.C:16: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’
[04:33] <Guest77746> PSORT.C:16: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’
[04:33] <Guest77746> PSORT.C:16: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’
[04:33] <FloodBot1> Guest77746: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:33] <TiMiDo> and run sudo nvidia-xconfig as root
[04:33] <TiMiDo> and then restart X
[04:33] <bucky> DrPenguin, you can make that one module
[04:33] <DrPenguin> Guest77190: the problem is obvious
[04:33] <DrPenguin> bucky: do whut nao
[04:34] <pinche> TiMiDo, ok. what's the command to restart X?
[04:34] <Guest77746> startx?
[04:34] <Guest77746> lol
[04:34] <Guest77746> idunno
[04:34] <DrPenguin> if X is already running, pkill X
[04:34] <DrPenguin> else, a striaght startx will do
[04:34] <Guest77746> whats the obvious problem?
[04:34] <DrPenguin> Guest77190: your doing something thats deprecated?
[04:34] <TiMiDo> pinche, service gdm restart
[04:34] <pinche> DrPenguin, thanks
[04:34] <bucky> DrPenguin, make CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL=mCONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO=n M=<relative path to>/parport Makefile in source
[04:34] <bullgard4> Is the group bin in Ubuntu {only} maintained for historic reasons?
[04:35] <DrPenguin> bucky: That wont do
[04:35] <DrPenguin> bucky: lp and ppdev and parport_pc need to also be recompiled
[04:35] <Guest77746> you disapprove?
[04:35] <DrPenguin> and when I do that, I get multiple issues with lp and ppdev disagreeing with symbol versions from parport
[04:35] <Guest77746> past?
[04:36] <Guest77746> ok ill look
[04:37] <WhyWhyWhy> hmm that gkrellm isnt showing the proper cpu speed, its showing the default speed
[04:37] <bucky> DrPenguin, you have obviously built a kernel before?
[04:37] <DrPenguin> bucky: no I havent, but it wasnt that hard to figure out how to do it
[04:38] <DrPenguin> bucky: well, I built my first one last night.. but meh
[04:38] <DrPenguin> WhyWhyWhy: whats the "proper" speed?
[04:38] <TiMiDo> nice I'm compiling my Xorg drivers
[04:38] <TiMiDo> the proper way
[04:38] <WhyWhyWhy> its what my clock is set to 4.2ghz the default is 3.4
[04:38] <DrPenguin> OH MAN
[04:38] <WhyWhyWhy> the /proc file shows the right speed though
[04:39] <DrPenguin> WhyWhyWhy: can you check proc/cpuinfo and tell us the govenor on your cpu?
[04:39] <DrPenguin> s/proc/\/proc/
[04:39] <black> k yekoms
[04:39] <WhyWhyWhy> i dont see anything there saying govenor
[04:39] <r_tarandus> how do i open a file with permissions to change it? trying to configure xorg...
[04:40] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: sudo command
[04:40] <Guest77746> -Wno-write-strings
[04:40] <bucky> DrPenguin, here's one of many howto on making a deb http://tinyurl.com/2z33vs
[04:40] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: it says the file doesn't exist. but it does.
[04:40] <Guest77746> it still doesnt work!
[04:40] <DrPenguin> generally, users cant write to xorg.conf
[04:40] <yekoms> im seeming to have a issue, when i boot the CD. the picture is distorted. im trying on a HP notebook.
[04:40] <WhyWhyWhy> actually its not really showing the right speed its showing 4.1ghz thats what windows reports as well in its system properties but programs like CPU-Z and other show the correct speed
[04:40] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: are you looking in /etc/X11?
[04:40] <yekoms> any thoughts?
[04:40] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: yes
[04:40] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: no, hold on
[04:40] <DrPenguin> yekoms: Ive noticed that on newer HP laptops, X doesnt boot right, you may need to use the alternative version
[04:41] <yekoms> i cant hit f4?
[04:41] <DrPenguin> Im curious if the live disc is using some lame framebuffer..
[04:41] <TiMiDo> why not?
[04:41] <TiMiDo> yekoms, ctrl alt + f3
[04:41] <TiMiDo> yekoms, ctrl alt + f4
[04:41] <yekoms> and that will allow safe video mode?
[04:41] <DrPenguin> those are just VT switchings
[04:41] <yekoms> Safe Graphics Mode *
[04:42] <DrPenguin> unless your asking about my method, its (what I hink is) an ncurses style installer
[04:42] <r_tarandus> I'm trying to open a file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[04:42] <Tech-1> f6 i thin gives more options
[04:42] <Tech-1> think
[04:42] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: what file?
[04:42] <TiMiDo> r_tarandus, open it up with nano
[04:42] <yekoms> ill try ctrl+alt+f4 and f6
[04:42] <r_tarandus> 51-synaptics-quirks.conf
[04:43] <yekoms> after win7 finishes
[04:43] <DrPenguin> eww nano
[04:43] <yekoms> nano<3
[04:43] <DrPenguin> vim!
[04:43] <yekoms> ew
[04:43] <DrPenguin> ew your ace
[04:43] <DrPenguin> s/ace/face/
[04:43] <yekoms> gedit is better then vim :P
[04:43]  * Nano facepalms and then changes nick.
[04:43] <DrPenguin> rofl
[04:43] <Nano> :P
[04:43] <yekoms> LOL
[04:43] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: so I'm trying to open 51-synaptics-quirks.conf with the permission to change it. It opens fine, just can't save my changes.
[04:44] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: then use sudo when your opening it
[04:44] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: it says the file doesn't exist
[04:44] <DrPenguin> like I said, user doesnt have permissions to edit those files by default
[04:44] <yekoms> and another thing. im having distorted pixels at the bottom of my monitor on this computer
[04:44] <TiMiDo> LOL
[04:44] <yekoms> it covers half of my taskbar...
[04:44] <yekoms> i dont know if its my tv or ubuntu10.04
[04:44] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.d/51-synaptics-quirks.conf says no file or dir?
[04:45] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: I understand that. But Terminal's being weird. When I'm in the /usr/share/ directory, it doesn't show any folders past "im-switch".
[04:45] <DrPenguin> yekoms: do you see these pixels anywhere else?
[04:45] <c_smith> yekoms, it could also be your Graphics card. though tbh I have no clue how to check if it is actually that.
[04:45] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: will try with "nano", that's different.
[04:45] <yekoms> they are just at the bottom of my screen
[04:45] <yekoms> ill take a snapshot if itll help
[04:45] <DrPenguin> yekoms: I didnt phrase my question right
[04:45] <DrPenguin> anywhere else BESIDES ubuntu, like just watching it, or another OS, etc etc
[04:46] <yekoms> uhm, call of duty yeah
[04:46] <yekoms> but not when i watch tv
[04:46] <DrPenguin> then its not Ubuntu
[04:46] <alejandro> how do i see how much space i have left on my hard drive?
[04:46] <yekoms> df -h
[04:47] <c_smith> yekoms, then it's either hardware in the tower or the Software in Ubuntu
[04:47] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: how to save in nano?
[04:47] <dannel> ctrl+o
[04:47] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: ^X (ctrl X)
[04:47] <yekoms> hm
[04:47] <yekoms> its not really that bothersome tbh
[04:47] <pinche> TiMiDo, Still no GUI. I did sudo apt-get install nvidia-current then rebooted. Just a reminder. This is a brand new Ubuntu 11.10 installation that was working fine until I activated a Nvidia driver, rebooted, and now it hangs on reboot.
[04:47] <TiMiDo> nice I'm installing catalyst 11.12 driver <3
[04:47] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: thank you.
[04:47] <c_smith> yekoms, and in this case, it may very well be your graphics chip
[04:47] <DrPenguin> Catalyst?
[04:47] <yekoms> on xbox and pc?
[04:47] <unreal-dude> ^O if you only want to save, ^X if you wish to quit (you get option to save)
[04:47] <DrPenguin> but.. isnt your chip nvidia? or am I mixing you up with pinche
[04:48] <TiMiDo> pinche, paste out you'r xorg error
[04:48] <DrPenguin> either way catalyst sucks
[04:48] <TiMiDo> I'm using catalyst for my self
[04:48] <c_smith> yekoms, the graphics chip is only in the tower,
[04:48] <c_smith> for Ubuntu anyway.
[04:48] <King_Ozzy> I concur DrPenguin
[04:48] <c_smith> King_Ozzy, ditto
[04:48] <pinche> TiMiDo,how do I get the xorg error? Treat me like a noob
[04:48] <DrPenguin> AMD is God awful when it comes to drivers, altho Linux drivers have always sucked
[04:48] <DrPenguin> pinche: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:49] <pinche> DrPneguin, yes I have an Nvidia video card
[04:49] <DrPenguin> Linux Drivers for ATI cards rather ***
[04:49] <mebigfatguy> pinche: did you try setting nomodeset by editing the entry in grub?
[04:50] <Amdpc> Hi...When I start my laptop ,the grub menu is seen , after entering the first option , the display goes off..I have to turn off the laptop using power button..it happens many times..and after around 6-8 times it starts..Please help me to avoid this ! (Laptop is dell vostro 1400)
[04:50] <pinche> TiMiDo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/777075
[04:50] <DrPenguin> Amdpc: do you have the option for the recovery kernel boot option?
[04:50] <unreal-dude> mebigfatguy how you would do such with grub2?
[04:51] <unreal-dude> * just curious rather
[04:51] <DrPenguin> pinche: somethins wrong with your xorg.conf.. did you use nvidia-xconfig?
 I have to look for that....I think its there..should I select that ?
[04:51] <mebigfatguy> type E on the boot option to edit, and add nomodeset , then ctrl-x i think
[04:51] <DrPenguin> Amdpc: yeah, its gona boot and print out messages so (hopefully) we can see whats happening.. its possible your kernel panicing
[04:52] <Amdpc> DrPenguin : May I PM you ?
[04:52] <DrPenguin> Amdpc: k
[04:53] <pinche> TiMiDo, Ah, no. You had said apt-get install nvidia-xconfig and that of course didn't do anything. Just did it and nothing. want the xorg error again?
[04:53] <DrPenguin> pinche: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[04:54] <r_tarandus> ugh
[04:54] <r_tarandus> There's a delay when I tap-to-click using my touchpad. There's no delay when using the hardware button. What gives?!?!
[04:54] <almoxarife> !info nvidia-current
[04:54] <r_tarandus> Been trying to figure this out for weeks
[04:55] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: the first thing i can think of is that maybe its trying to figure out whether your moving the mouse or tapping..? have ou looked in the synaptics touch pad gui manager thingy
[04:56] <TiMiDo> damn 3d
[04:56] <dr_willis_> we need 5d :-)
[04:57] <TiMiDo> yeah and 6d also
[04:57] <TiMiDo> jaja
[04:57] <DrPenguin> 3D is overrated
[04:57] <TiMiDo> yeah it is
[04:57] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: The only option is that you can enable/disable "tap-to-click"
[04:57] <TiMiDo> r_tarandus: you need to enable it ;)
[04:57] <DrPenguin> it is enable
[04:57] <DrPenguin> d
[04:58] <DrPenguin> he just doesnt like the delay when he does a tap
[04:58] <TiMiDo> gnome?
[04:58] <TiMiDo> xfce4?
[04:58] <DrPenguin> Openbox!
[04:58] <MooseRFun> M-theory requires spacetime to have 11D
[04:58] <TiMiDo> oh ic
[04:58] <DrPenguin> oh I dunno what hes using
[04:58] <almoxarife> r_tarandus: what version of ubuntu?
[04:58] <r_tarandus> it's been reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/449208. the only solution on there was to edit the default settings in X. i don't know what that means.
[04:58] <r_tarandus> 11.10/unity
[04:59] <TiMiDo> lol
[04:59] <TiMiDo> brb
[04:59] <TiMiDo> rebooting time
[04:59] <acu> I wonder if GNOME3 ATI driver problem is solved - the Menu and Dialog BOxes are Skewed /Tilted Mingled - http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99  can anyone tell me what is the problem 0 or whether is solved ?
[04:59] <almoxarife> r_tarandus: if that is so, you have many more options on the touchpad setup screen
[05:00] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: synclient fasttaps=1 seems to be your soution
[05:01] <DrPenguin> or, you could edit in the 51-synaptics blah or add a xorg.conf and put an input device section in it
[05:01] <pinche> DrPenguin, where is xorg.conf? Noob here.
[05:01] <DrPenguin> pinche: /etc/X11
[05:01] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: seriously, thanks for your suggestions and time thus far. fasttaps improves the situation (decreases the delay) but doesn't solve it. the hardware button is still faster. I was trying to edit 51-synaptics by adding a bunch of stuff, but I don't know what is the "right" thing to add.
[05:02] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: I think it makes sense that the hard button is faster
[05:02] <somsip> pinche: there is no xorg.conf as standard, but it lives where DrPenguin says if you need one
[05:02] <DrPenguin> because the touch pad does multiple things
[05:02] <pinche> DrPenguin, here u go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/777080/
[05:02] <DrPenguin> somsip: he has one though, he used nvidia-xconfig
[05:02] <somsip> DrPenguin: fair enough
[05:03] <pinche> DrPenguin, last thing I did was "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" then reboot, then "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[05:03] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: I do understand the reasoning behind creating a software delay. But when using other OSs, the delay isn't there and now it's a nuisance instead of a help. So even though I "get it", what's frustrating is that there isn't a way to work around it/get rid of it. An easy one, at least.
[05:03] <macguges> Please help, I made a bad mistake just now. I've just overwritten an ntfs partition I had intended to backup, running ntfsclone --overwrite with the devices backwards.
[05:03] <macguges> Can I recover any of the data?
[05:04] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: yeah, something like this its probably programmed into the X Server
[05:04] <DrPenguin> macguges: if your lucky.. maybe testdisk can do it
[05:04] <DrPenguin> pinche: hmm.. can you do lspci | grep VGA and give me the PCI id of your card? its gonna be a set of 3 numbers separated by :'s on the left
[05:05] <macguges> DrPenguin: thanks, I'll look into that!
[05:06] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: thanks. guess I'll just have to deal with the delay. this some booshit! but it's all good. unity is still damn nice.
[05:06] <DrPenguin> r_tarandus: *stares at you* you "like" unity?
[05:06] <pinche> DrPenguin, the output is: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G80 [Quadro FX 4600] (reva2)
[05:06] <skegeek> How long has Unity been Ubuntu's default desktop??
[05:06] <DrPenguin> pinche: hmm ok.. so it is configuring the right card..
[05:06] <DrPenguin> skegeek: since 10.10 I think? or was it 11.04..
[05:06] <somsip> skegeek: since 11.04
[05:06] <edbian> How can I change the mouse cursor?  (ubuntu 11.10)
[05:07] <r_tarandus> DrPenguin: I know, I know. My only gripe with Unity is that you can't move the stupid side-panel to the bottom in 2D.
[05:07] <skegeek> Appears pretty sucky to me.
[05:07] <edbian> The internet / google is showing me all sorts of non-sense such as downloading ubuntu-tweak and editing some config files
[05:07] <pinche> DrPenguin, maybe its just a matter of trying other drivers? instead of sudo apt-get install nvidia-current I can install nvidia-173 or nvidia-173-dev until I hit the correct one?
[05:08] <DrPenguin> pinche: I dont think its that.. for the sake of maybe the package didnt play nice, update your kernel modules with a depmod -a and reboot
[05:08] <DrPenguin> what we could also do too is just go to nvidias site and use the upstream driver
[05:08] <iToast> Can i ask a question
[05:08] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, doing sudo depmod
[05:08] <DrPenguin> pinche: -a! dont forget the -a!
[05:08] <iToast> Its a bit off topic but its running on ubuntu server...
[05:08] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, doing sudo depmod -a
[05:09] <pinche> DrPenguin, rebooting...
[05:10] <edbian> oh, I need gnome-tweak-tool
[05:10] <edbian> :P
[05:10] <TiMiDo> yeah
[05:10] <TiMiDo> ;)
[05:10] <pinche> DrPenguin, no luck. back on reboot screen. last item says "Starting bluetooth." To get to command line I do Ctrl-Alt-F1
[05:11] <DrPenguin> pinche: the Xorg log might be the same…
[05:11] <DrPenguin> this is weird.. ive never had issue with nvidia and xorg
[05:11] <TiMiDo> pinche, sudo adduser username video group helps a lot
[05:11] <pinche> DrPenguin, how about setting nomodeset by editing the entry in grub as someone suggested before?
[05:12] <DrPenguin> TiMiDo: he shouldnt need that
[05:12] <TiMiDo> just in case
[05:12] <DrPenguin> his system should just work.. its ubuntu.. yeah true
[05:12] <DrPenguin> pinche: you could try that but I dont think thats gonna help
[05:12] <pinche> DrPenguin, remember it DID work
[05:12] <TiMiDo> pinche, which drivers are you using?
[05:13] <TiMiDo> Building only for 3.0.0-14-generic nice
[05:13] <pinche> TiMiDo, it was the second on the list. but at this point, after all the apt-get installs ad nvidia-xconfigs we've done who knows
[05:13] <DrPenguin> pinche: did X Server ever work?
[05:13] <TiMiDo> Nice bug
[05:13] <pinche> DrPenguin, Intially, before I activated a driver, yes it worked
[05:13] <TiMiDo> Warning: No support for locale: en_US.utf8
[05:14] <DrPenguin> Ok.. thts a good sign then
[05:14] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: what you don't take into account is how some go all script-kiddie on a basic system, forget what and where they left every kind of conf change they saw on the internet, then they seek help, worse part, they never tell you what they did.
[05:14] <pinche> DrPenguin, I installed Ubuntu couple of hours ago. Ran it fine. Was on Unity. Clicked on the drivers icon, selected the second from the list, I think version 96, restarted, and got stuck on boot.
[05:15] <DrPenguin> so.. most likely before you were probably using vesa or nouveau
[05:15] <pinche> DrPenguin, maybe. let's do that. let's install nouveau right now. walk me through it?
[05:16] <DrPenguin> well we can do one better.. lets try this
[05:16] <DrPenguin> is X currently running and just in a hung state?
[05:16] <almoxarife> pinche: you should only have one driver, and from what you described it should be 'nvidia-current' nothing else! for graphics anyway
[05:16] <pinche> DrPenguin, how do I find out>
[05:16] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: Ubuntu comes with a boat load of drivers by default
[05:16] <DrPenguin> pinche: ps -fade | grep X should output some line with X's process ID n crud
[05:17] <pinche> DrPenguin, yest it does
[05:17] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: I always keep my main driver + vesa installed in my system, incase I do an update on my main driver and something happens, I can just load vesa to fix
[05:17] <DrPenguin> pinche: ok, get its PID and kill it with kill PID
[05:18] <pinche> DrPenguin, PID is the first or second number?
[05:18] <DrPenguin> check the column but it hsould be the first
[05:18] <DrPenguin> ppid should be the second.. so the fist number should be big and the second Id imagine is 1
[05:18] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok killed
[05:18] <DrPenguin> now, run Xorg -configure
[05:19] <DrPenguin> may have to sudo that
[05:19] <pinche> DrPenguin,Configuration failed
[05:19] <DrPenguin> pinche: paste the log for me
[05:20] <yekoms> using 11.10 i can still use 10.04 repos right?
[05:20] <DrPenguin> altho I think I know why it failed.. these proprietary drivers suck so much
[05:20] <somsip> yekoms: wrong
[05:20] <almoxarife> yekoms: no
[05:20] <yekoms> damn
[05:20] <yekoms> 11.10 dont have prisim
[05:21] <pinche> DrPenguin, can't use pastebininit with it
[05:21] <DrPenguin> ?
[05:21] <yekoms> when should i hit ctrlaltf4 for save video?
[05:21] <pinche> DrPenguin, sudo Xorg -configure | pastebininit?
[05:21] <DrPenguin> pinche: what is pastebininit?
[05:21] <OerHeks> yekoms, prism is no longer in mozilla labs > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Prism
[05:22] <yekoms> ill find the source and install from tar\
[05:22] <pinche> DrPenguin, pastebinit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pastebinit
[05:22] <DrPenguin> pinche: the log could be printing to stderr and not stdout
[05:23] <DrPenguin> do Xorg -configure &> xorg.log; cat xorg.log | pastebininit
[05:23] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, hang on
[05:23] <DrPenguin> that actually came up at work today.. there should be some way to distinguish stdout from stderr text, they look identical in console
[05:24] <pinche> DrPenguin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/777088
[05:24] <DrPenguin> pinche: what.. the.. hell?
[05:24] <nofx> bot
[05:24] <pinche> DrPenguin, reinstall?
[05:24] <nofx> boot
[05:24] <DrPenguin> it tried to load vmware by defaullt..? that makes no sense
[05:25] <pinche> DrPenguin, so the video's not the issue?
[05:25] <DrPenguin> even worse, it only attempted 1 module and not 3.. usually autoconfig pulls down the best known followed by fbdev and vesa
[05:25] <DrPenguin> remove the vmware driver
[05:26] <pinche> DrPenguin, I had installed Virtualbox.... ?
[05:26] <DrPenguin> Virtual Box is not VMWare
[05:27] <pinche> DrPenguin, right, thus my confusion
[05:27] <DrPenguin> even so, why would the host need the X Server driver for virtual box
[05:27] <pinche> DrPenguin, right
[05:27] <pinche> DrPenguin, so apt-get uninstall vmware?
[05:27] <DrPenguin> thats not the package
[05:27] <DrPenguin> dpkg -l | grep vmware
[05:27] <DrPenguin> its probably xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[05:28] <DrPenguin> but before that.. I have to ask.. this isnt a VM right? this is a native image?
[05:28] <pinche> DrPenguin, it is
[05:28] <DrPenguin> it is what
[05:29] <pinche> DrPenguin, it is xserver-xorg-video-vmware like u said
[05:29] <DrPenguin> right.. but.. is your ubuntu install a VM or native install
[05:29] <pinche> DrPenguin, native. from a DVD.
[05:29] <DrPenguin> ok good..
[05:29] <pinche> DrPenguin, I have no idea what vmware is doing there
[05:30] <DrPenguin> it could just be standard in the Ubuntu image.. I dunno I dont useu buntu anymore
[05:30] <pinche> DrPenguin, so apt-get uninstall xserver-xorg-video-vmware?
[05:30] <DrPenguin> remove
[05:30] <DrPenguin> or.. is it uninstall… why am I spacing on my apt syntax
[05:30] <pinche> DrPenguin, right. removing....
[05:31] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, removed. now what.
[05:31] <DrPenguin> ok, so lets make sure your kernels still happy, sudo depmod -a
[05:31] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, done. now what.
[05:31] <DrPenguin> now retry the xorg configure bs and get me the new log
[05:32] <Captain_Crow> i just did a fresh install of ubuntu 11.10 and updates, is there anything else I need to do before trying to run the cube or other compiz effects? (last few attempts of running the cube caused ubuntu to completely crash every time i rebooted the pc, which is why i had to reinstall)
[05:32] <pinche> DrPenguin, what are the xorg configure commands?
[05:32] <pinche> DrPenguin, just to make sure
[05:33] <DrPenguin> Xorg - configure &> xorg.log; cat xorg.log | pastebininit
[05:34] <DrPenguin> eh.. sudo that
[05:34] <Captain_Crow> should I just run compiz, or is there some prerequisite to keeping ubuntu from crashing and becoming corrupted?
[05:34] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: ubuntu has compiz in it by default now
[05:35] <pinche> DrPenguin, here u go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/777094/
[05:35] <DrPenguin> pinche: … there is something wrong with your system
[05:36] <DrPenguin> can you pastebin that new xorg file in your homedir?
[05:36] <pinche> DrPenguin, ok, fresh reinstall then.
[05:36] <werty9d> anybody knows a way to install gcc or qemu to android
[05:37] <werty9d> ?
[05:37] <DrPenguin> werty9d: install gcc or qemu to android..? can you explain what your asking
[05:37] <pinche> DrPenguin, thanks for all your help! I'll just reinstall.
[05:37] <DrPenguin> pinche: ok, sorry man
[05:37] <werty9d> will ubuntu release a wersion thats suitable for android devices ?
[05:38] <DrPenguin> werty9d: .. what? dude your not being clear
[05:38] <DrPenguin> what are you trying to do
[05:38] <werty9d> i didnt like android
[05:38] <werty9d> google did placed too many bugs on them
[05:39] <DrPenguin> eh, I would disagree there… im running an ICS port on my phone and its fine.. but your not answering my question
[05:40] <werty9d> so it could be better to have a standard linux on hand :)
[05:40] <nanotube> is it just me, or is unity buggy when it comes to multiple virtual desktops (workspaces) ?
[05:40] <DrPenguin> werty9d: last chance. WHAT are you trying to do
[05:40] <werty9d> android doesnt look like a linux at all :)
[05:40] <DrPenguin> OK im done
[05:41] <Tech-1> Captain_Crow:  have you installed the graphics drivers ?
[05:42] <WhyWhyWhy> hey werty9d you can already use ubuntu on android devices
[05:42] <DrPenguin> was THAT what he was asking? sheesh
[05:42] <WhyWhyWhy> but i doubt they will release an officially supported version
[05:42] <DrPenguin> Android is gonna run better than Ubuntu on the devices though
[05:42] <WhyWhyWhy> it does run a bit slow yea
[05:43] <WhyWhyWhy> i use it mostly for dcc transfers cant find an android app for that
[05:44] <werty9d> hm thanks im trying to install that
[05:44] <werty9d> but it requires recompiling the kernel
[05:44] <DrPenguin> werty9d: i think thats out of scope for this IRC.. look at xda forums
[05:45] <WhyWhyWhy> theres a pre-made image you can use yea look around xda its there
[05:45] <werty9d> not for any device
[05:46] <werty9d> i hawe galaxy pro which is not much popular on that place imao
[05:46] <WhyWhyWhy> oh heheh i have the galaxy s2
[05:47] <ubuntusam> hi everyone
[05:48] <derphead> Hi. So, I've spent a few hours installing Kubuntu, and I think I've broken it already. :-/
[05:48] <werty9d> so i have to do the work
[05:48] <derphead> I was trying to get a wireless USB dongle to work that wasn't plugged in during installation. It wouldn't detect any networks so I figured I'd reboot.
[05:48] <derphead> But it wouldn't shutdown/reboot. It got stuck on a black screen (with mouse cursor). So I reset the machine. And now it won't log in. It tries to but logs out again a second later.
[05:48] <werty9d> that was the cheapest device that supports linux
[05:48] <derphead> halp?
[05:49] <DrPenguin> derphead: can you boot the system in recovery (using the recovery kernel) and seee what happens?
[05:49] <Captain_Crow> how do i bring up compiz on 11.10, just type ccsm into the terminal?
[05:49] <derphead> DrPenguin: why would it be a kernel issue? The normal graphical login screen appears and works and is fully pretty.
[05:50] <DrPenguin> oh I think I misread what happened..
[05:50] <DrPenguin> hmm
[05:50] <Metroshica> I'm trying to find out how much memory I'm using now. When I log in, my MOTD says I'm only using about 30%. However, when I run free -m, it says I have 1729 used out of 1750, with only 21 mbs free. However, it says 875 mbs is cached. How much memory is in use then, should I be worried that I'm almsot running out of memory?
[05:50] <derphead> DrPenguin: ok
[05:50] <DrPenguin> derphead: can you VT switch and log in at console?
[05:50] <Captain_Crow> do i type ccsm into the terminal, UXTerm, or XTerm?
[05:51] <derphead> DrPenguin: how?
[05:51] <DrPenguin> derphead: by.. vt switching? like CTRL ALT F2?
[05:52] <derphead> DrPenguin: ok.. linux noob here.... okay yes, now logged into a terminal.
[05:52] <derphead> DrPenguin: how do I fix KDE?
[05:52] <DrPenguin> derphead: well, you dont fix anything until you know whats broken
[05:53] <DrPenguin> try……. sudo service kdm restart
[05:53] <Metroshica> I'm trying to find out how much memory I'm using now. When I log in, my MOTD says I'm only using about 30%. When I run free -m, it says I have 1729 used out of 1750, with only 21 mbs free. However, it says 875 mbs is cached. How much memory is in use then, should I be worried that I'm almsot running out of memory?
[05:54] <ubuntusam> anyone running it on a mac as a vm?
[05:54] <derphead> DrPenguin: That put me back to the log in screen, but when I try to log in it still throws me straight out again.
[05:54] <DrPenguin> ubuntusam: I have in the past
[05:54] <ubuntusam> any issues?
[05:54]  * Captain_Crow is confused with ubuntu 11.10
[05:54] <DrPenguin> derphead: ok thats weird.. can you vt switch again, login, and go to /var/log?
[05:54] <DrPenguin> ubuntusam: not really
[05:54] <pnorman> Metroshica: What is going on is that 30% is used by programs and the remainder of the memory is being used to cache data on disk
[05:55] <Captain_Crow> how do i properly open the compiz settings manager in ubuntu 11.10?
[05:55] <ubuntusam> me either...so far.
[05:55] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: ccsm &?
[05:55] <Metroshica> pnorman: so I'm not running out of memory and I"m only using 30%?
[05:55] <tensorpudding> Metroshica, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[05:55] <tensorpudding> is helpful
[05:55] <derphead> DrPenguin: what log should I look at here?
[05:56] <Captain_Crow> DrPenguin, & what?
[05:56] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: its just ccsm &
[05:56] <DrPenguin> the & symbol means to run the process in the background
[05:56] <Metroshica> tensorpudding, haha, that's a great site, thanks
[05:56] <Captain_Crow> i type in "ccsm &"?
[05:56] <TiMiDo> no just ccsm
[05:56] <TiMiDo> ;)
[05:57] <DrPenguin> derphead: can you pastebin the output of ls, I need to see whats in there
[05:57] <Captain_Crow> i tried just ccsm, it says not installed, but i installed all the updates
[05:57] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, which release?
[05:57] <Captain_Crow> 11.10
[05:57] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: just because you istalled the updates it doesnt mean your gonna have a package, jus install the settings mgr.. but it should be in there
[05:57] <TiMiDo> oh
[05:57] <TiMiDo> oneiric
[05:57] <TiMiDo> ;)
[05:58] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, install emerald
[05:58] <Captain_Crow> ok
[05:58] <TiMiDo> that will fix you'r window issue or go with gtk --decorador
[05:59] <derphead> DrPenguin: http://i.imgur.com/wbDnQ.png
[06:00] <DrPenguin> derphead: pastebin the kdm.log please
[06:00] <Captain_Crow> TiMiDo, i just reinstalled ubuntu, I dont have a window issue(yet), i haven't installed any additional packages yet aside from update
[06:00] <kaushal> Hi
[06:00] <TiMiDo> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:00] <TiMiDo> to upgrade you'r whole system
[06:00] <TiMiDo> if you like
[06:01] <kaushal> is there a way to protect data on a laptop or desktop running Ubuntu Linux desktop if its lost and falls in bad hands
[06:01] <kaushal> ?
[06:01] <DrPenguin> kaushal: you can encrypt it
[06:01] <Captain_Crow> i ran the full update thing already, i just havent messed with compiz yet cause idk how to do it properly w/o messing up the OS
[06:01] <kaushal> I mean elegant and efficient way to do it ?
[06:01] <DrPenguin> kaushal: … encrypt it
[06:01] <yekoms> i cant connect to efnet using ipv6
[06:02] <derphead> DrPenguin: there's a line near the end "kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!".. could that be it?
[06:02] <yekoms> anyone else have these issues?
[06:02] <kaushal> Can i push it from a centralized location ?
[06:02] <DrPenguin> derphead: moooooost likely
[06:02] <derphead> DrPenguin: then it says "D-Bus call failed: 'Not connected to D-Bus server'"
[06:02] <kaushal> DrPenguin: Any wiki ?
[06:02] <DrPenguin> kaushal: google it? theres probably something on the ubu wiki
[06:02] <kaushal> ok
[06:02] <derphead> DrPenguine: come to think of it I think I uninstalled some sort of d-bus thingie
[06:02] <DrPenguin> derphead: oh God!
[06:02] <DrPenguin> dude! you need dbus
[06:03] <derphead> DrPenguin: I thought it was a printer driver :-/
[06:03] <DrPenguin> *face palm* no way!
[06:03] <almoxarife> derphead: what else did you remove?
[06:03] <dyess002> Metroshica,   free -m shows me as having 5841 out of  5951  and System Moniter shows that I have 2200mb  left.   I think that I am owned.
[06:03] <kaushal> DrPenguin: is it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto ?
[06:03] <Captain_Crow> TiMiDo, is emerald the replacement for ccsm in ubuntu 11.10?
[06:03] <derphead> almoxarife: CUPS and bluetooth stuff
[06:03] <DrPenguin> kaushal: I dont know.. I dont use ubuntu
[06:03] <almoxarife> derphead: stuff
[06:04] <derphead> how do I add the dbus things back?
[06:04] <almoxarife> derphead: gosh, did you think that stuff was there for a reason?
[06:04] <DrPenguin> derphead: try apt-get install dbus
[06:04] <derphead> DrPenguin: it says "dbus is already the newest version"
[06:05] <DrPenguin> then…. you didnt remove dbus, but somehting associated with dbus
[06:05] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: he needs to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, it's the only thing to be sure all the 'stuff' that is gone comes back
[06:05] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: then tell him that :P
[06:05] <derphead> I'll do that
[06:05] <skegeek> Does Ubuntu-Unity have problems with Intel Mobile graphics cards?
[06:06] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: nope, you are doing very well, continue, if you would
[06:06] <aeon-ltd> skegeek: if you have any just ask here
[06:06] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: :p thanks
[06:06] <derphead> it says "unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop"... also tried 'kubuntu-desktop'
[06:06]  * Captain_Crow just wants fancy compiz features w/o crashing or corrupting the OS...
[06:07] <skegeek> I've Intel Mobile Express 965 graphics card and Ubuntu keeps freezing.
[06:07] <almoxarife> derphead: what are you running??? ubuntu? ku..... what??
[06:07] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: Why are you worried about "crashing or corrupting the OS"? This isnt Windows
[06:07] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: kubuntu
[06:07] <skegeek> It was after being idle, but it just froze when i was doing something.
[06:07] <derphead> almoxarife: Kubuntu 11.10, clean install
[06:07] <pippo> ciao
[06:07] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: then install kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <Captain_Crow> its already crashed and corrupted 5 times after I tried to run compiz features
[06:08] <derphead> almoxarife: it's not able to locate that either
[06:08] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: Ive NEVER had an issue where Ive broken Ubuntu beyound repair with compiz
[06:08] <DrPenguin> derphead: make sure your repos synced, do apt-get update
[06:08] <DrPenguin> then apt-cache search kubuntu
[06:09] <almoxarife> !info kubuntu-desktop
[06:09] <skegeek> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10, I've even tried Gnome Classic. I turned off power control, I had disabled Compiz as well. I haven't managed to turn off screen saver, but that doesn't appear to matter as of now.
[06:09] <almoxarife> derphead: what else aren't you sahring
[06:09] <dyess002> Metroshica  free -m on mine shows  5841 out of 5951  leaving me eith just 110 free. syytem Moniter shows that I have 2.5 out of 5.8.  I get the feeling that someone is being hornswoggled.
[06:09] <almoxarife> sharing?
[06:09] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: his cookies no doubt
[06:09] <motorin> hola saludos
[06:09] <derphead> almoxarife: it's in a VM
[06:09] <almoxarife> derphead: that don't matter,
[06:10] <Captain_Crow> DrPenguin, i couldn't get the desktop to work at all aside from tapping the power button to get the shutdown menu to come up, I had to reinstall ubuntu completely to get it to work again
[06:10] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: thats not a compiz break, you broke something severely there
[06:11] <Captain_Crow> its happened every time i tried to run the cube feature
[06:11] <Shodowjedi01> Can someone help me with my boot screen issue?
[06:11] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: as I said, your breakin something there.. compiz wouldnt bork your system
[06:12] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: just say your issue
[06:13] <almoxarife> !info pastebinit
[06:13] <Shodowjedi01> Dr.Penguin: I was messing around with the plymouth manager and now my boot screen is all jacked up, plymouth is non responsive and synaptic will not allow me to remove it until I "fix broken packages"
[06:13] <Captain_Crow> all i had to do was install ccsm, run it, checkmark the cube feature, and after that EVERYTHING on the desktop would disappear and become unuseable, i even tried the Alt+F2 thing to bring up the command terminal and nothing would happen
[06:14] <almoxarife> tried pastebinit, it is that easy, from the terminal even
[06:14] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: hmmm.. what kind of video card do you have
[06:15] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: that doesnt sound like somehting compiz would do.. Did you pay attention to the other things that compiz asked you to do when you enabled cube?
[06:15] <Captain_Crow> yes
[06:15] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: what else did you change
[06:15] <Captain_Crow> that was it
[06:15] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN
[06:15] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: I call bs, theres no way
[06:16] <Captain_Crow> the only other things in installed were the updates
[06:16] <Shodowjedi01> Captain_Crow: Sounds to me like you messed up your screen res
[06:16] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: hmm.. what framebuffer are you using? vesafb?
[06:16] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: Not really sure
[06:16] <dyess002> test
[06:16] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: can you dmesg and look through that close to the bottom? my first guess is your using vesafb
[06:17] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: what log shows the info you need from Shodowjedi01?
[06:17] <dyess002> Penetration Testing with dsniff
[06:17] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: im not really looking for anything specific, just any vesafb messages in dmesg
[06:17] <DrPenguin> I need to know what framebuffer hes using
[06:17] <Captain_Crow> so i'd have to change the screen resolution?
[06:17] <DrPenguin> or see if theres a collision of framebuffers, depending on if his vid card supports KMS
[06:17] <almoxarife> Shodowjedi01: familiar with terminal?
[06:18] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, run unity reset in a terminal to setb it stock and reboot.
[06:18] <Shodowjedi01> almostxarife: yes
[06:18] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, unity --reset
[06:18] <Shodowjedi01> I just ran the dmesg command
[06:18] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: if you want, you can pastebin the dmesg output and I can read it
[06:18] <Captain_Crow> i cant open the terminal after running compiz
[06:18] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: you can vt switch
[06:19] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: I think it would be nice too to have the output of lsmod
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> t pref]
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> [    0.532546] pci 0000:00:04.0: PCI bridge to [bus 03-03]
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> [    0.532546] pci 0000:00:04.0:   bridge window [io  disabled]
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> [    0.532546] pci 0000:00:04.0:   bridge window [mem 0xf0300000-0xf03fffff]
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> [    0.532546] pci 0000:00:04.0:   bridge window [mem pref disabled]
[06:19] <Shodowjedi01> [    0.532546] pci 0000:00:06.0: PCI bridge to [bus 09-09]
[06:19] <FloodBot1> Shodowjedi01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:19] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, use a tty crtl-alt-f1 do it there then reboot
[06:19] <almoxarife> Shodowjedi01: not here
[06:19] <DrPenguin> he got booted :(
[06:20] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: put that on pastebin.com or whatever
[06:20] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, unity and compiz are intertwined unity is a plugin in compiz you need to look on the web for a tutorial; in setting up the cube.
[06:20] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: The dmesg or lsmod?
[06:21] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: just dmesg, if I need lsmod Ill have you do that too
[06:21] <c_smith> urlin2u, I've found in 11.10 the Desktop cube is even more risky (possibly impossible) to implement with Unity.
[06:22] <DrPenguin> ftr, Unity just sucks
[06:22] <urlin2u> c_smith, not impossible  have it running fine.
[06:22] <c_smith> possibly impossible..... oxymoron.....
[06:22] <almoxarife> !ot
[06:22] <Captain_Crow> so compiz effects are not a standard ubuntu feature and will be buggy unless you know exactly how to use them?
[06:22] <dyess002>  ?
[06:23] <derphead> DrPenguin: it's reinstalled everything I removed. How do I return to the graphical login terminal now? Or should I reboot?
[06:23] <DrPenguin> derphead: sudo service kdm restart, but Id say reboot
[06:23] <derphead> DrPenguin: how do I reboot from a terminal?
[06:23] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, they are part of the unity desktop a little mre ten click and hope is needed.
[06:23] <DrPenguin> derphead: sudo shutdown -r now
[06:23] <c_smith> Captain_Crow, not exactly, you can use only a limited extent without knowing how to properly configure it otherwise.
[06:23] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: I pasted in pastebin the name is Dr. Penguin
[06:23] <yekoms> sudo reboot
[06:23] <urlin2u> more then*
[06:23] <DrPenguin> or sudo reboot
[06:23] <derphead> thank ye
[06:24] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: do whu nao?
[06:25] <DrPenguin> I need the link of the pastebin
[06:25] <Shodowjedi01> I pasted the output of dmseg on pastebin.com
[06:25] <Shodowjedi01> oh ok
[06:25] <motorin> Someone who can install pyrit in ubuntu
[06:25] <blackshi1t> motorin: what is pyrit ?
[06:25] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin http://pastebin.com/Kj0X2JCA
[06:25] <allquixotic> Is there a way to have a package from a PPA depend upon a package from another user's PPA? I build-depends on valac 0.15 for my package; that version of valac is available in someone else's PPA. Do I have to grab their source packages and upload them to my PPA to get it to work, or can I just tell the build server to install packages from that other PPA?
[06:26] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: I was right! your using KMS
[06:26] <Shodowjedi01> :-)
[06:26] <yman> need help with : When trying to install from software center it tell me "no internet connection"
[06:26] <c_smith> allquixotic, I don't believe you can have that type of thing without the PPA owner specifying it themselves in the package code.
[06:26] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: so.. I think if we blacklist vesafb you should be ok
[06:26] <DrPenguin> yman: well, DO you have a net connection?
[06:26] <urlin2u> yman, can you run a apt-get update?
[06:27] <allquixotic> c_smith: Which PPA owner? I'm the PPA owner for the package that depends on a package in another's PPA; does that mean there's a way for me to do that?
[06:27] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: will this fix my plymouth manager?
[06:27] <yman> DrPenguin... I'm in here
[06:27] <motorin> It is a command to do that the graphical card works together with the processor of the cpu
[06:27] <DrPenguin> yman: well that doesnt mean your using the same pc..
[06:27] <yman> ok
[06:27] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: I think it will
[06:27] <yman> I will try that urlin2u
[06:27] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: Ok lets try it!
[06:28] <c_smith> allquixotic, now I think about it, I don't think it's even possible, but I'm shooting in the dark, I'll have to have someone else answer.
[06:28] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: cd to /etc/modprobe.d
[06:28] <derphead> DrPenguin: It was still broken, but now it gave me another option on the login screen (I swear it wasn't there before) to select a new session. I appear to be logged in fine now.
[06:28] <motorin> Someone who can install pyrit in ubuntu 11.10
[06:28] <DrPenguin> derphead: nice! what session did you log into?
[06:28] <allquixotic> c_smith: I know it's possible to have packages _within your own PPA_ depend on eachother. I have seen that in countless PPAs, such as the xorg edgers where all the xorg stack packages depend on each other
[06:29] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: "No such file or directory"
[06:29] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: uh… that *should* be a directory
[06:29] <allquixotic> c_smith: So I guess I just have to grab the valac source packages from the other PPA, sign them with my own gpg key, and upload them to my own PPA lol
[06:29] <derphead> DrPenguin: "KDE Plasma something or other" in addition to "default" and "failsafe", the two that were there before
[06:29] <c_smith> allquixotic, I'd guess so.
[06:29] <derphead> are those "sessions" I'm not sure?
[06:29] <DrPenguin> did Ubuntu change the modprobe directory in Oneric?
[06:29] <DrPenguin> derphead: yeah those are sessions
[06:30] <c_smith> allquixotic, what's your program, btw?
[06:30] <allquixotic> c_smith: http://launchpad.net/rbpitch
[06:30] <Shodowjedi01> Dr. Penguin: I'm running Maverick
[06:30] <c_smith> allquixotic, thanks, I was curious and wanted to look.
[06:30] <derphead> DrPenguin: thank you very much for your help. I'll be more careful with future uninstalls.
[06:30] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: either way its weird.. try this
[06:30] <DrPenguin> find / -name "blacklist*"
[06:30] <allquixotic> c_smith: I'm a long way away from Oregon but nice to meet a fellow hacker ;)
[06:30] <DrPenguin> sudo actually
[06:30] <DrPenguin> derphead: np
[06:30] <TiMiDo> it should be in /etc/blacklist
[06:30] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: /etc/modprobe.d
[06:31] <TiMiDo> yeah true that almoxarife ;)
[06:31] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: So the command I'm running is sudo derphead: np?
[06:31] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: thats what I thought.. but Shodowjedi01is saying theres no such file or dir
[06:31] <TiMiDo> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:31] <TiMiDo> if not create it
[06:31] <c_smith> allquixotic, yeah, I'm beginning (haven't even modified anything in source) but I hope to be able to in the next 2-3 years.
[06:31] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: no! lol.. sudo find / -name "blacklist*"
[06:32] <allquixotic> c_smith: Wow, I'm stupid; I found the answer in the launchpad docs!!!!!
[06:32] <allquixotic> c_smith: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage#Depending_on_other_PPAs
[06:32] <allquixotic> c_smith: The answer is to click the dang button to edit PPA dependencies.......... wow... I missed that?!
[06:32] <c_smith> allquixotic, well, I haven't even messed with it. if you don't mind, could we have a chat in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:32] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: One momment please
[06:33] <allquixotic> c_smith: sure
[06:34] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: http://pastebin.com/iK6xjtzF
[06:34] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: ok /etc/modprobe.d does exist, you just goofed the command up
[06:34] <Shodowjedi01> oopse
[06:35] <DrPenguin> was gonna say Id be surprised if it didnt exist
[06:35] <yman> urlin2u,  GPG error: http://deb.torproject.org natty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 74A941BA219EC810 ... I removed the signatures and now its working
[06:35] <DrPenguin> ok.. anyway.. edit blacklist-framebuffer.conf with your editor of choice, we need to add blacklist vesafb if it isnt in there.. if it is in there and not commented.. then we need to disable it since its some how being invoked stil
[06:36] <yman> ty
[06:36] <urlin2u> yman, cool
[06:36] <yman> hagn
[06:36] <Shodowjedi01> totally just lost me DrPenguin
[06:36] <DrPenguin> ok, have you used any text editors on Linux?
[06:37] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: I'm going to say no?
[06:37] <Shodowjedi01> perhapse?
[06:37] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: ok,, since your new to linux, we will do this the easy way, are you in /etc/modprobe.d?
[06:37] <Captain_Crow> is there a specific compiz editor that I need for 11.10?
[06:37] <almoxarife> Shodowjedi01: no is a better choice right now
[06:37] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: no
[06:38] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: The command you gave me isn't working
[06:38] <Shodowjedi01> I copied it exactly as you typed it
[06:38] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: paste what your typing in
[06:39] <skegeek> Perhaps this will be useful in solving my problems: http://pastebin.com/7Q0sD7qq
[06:39] <Captain_Crow> DrPenguin, what editor should i be using? (maybe im downloading the wrong one im not really sure)
[06:39] <Shodowjedi01> cd to /etc/modprobe.d
[06:39] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: theres no such thing as to
[06:39] <DrPenguin> its just: cd /etc/modprobe.d
[06:39] <DrPenguin> Captain_Crow: ccsm....
[06:40] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: In there like swimwear
[06:40] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: good but also creepy
[06:40] <Shodowjedi01> :-)
[06:40] <DrPenguin> now, do: sudo gedit blacklist-framebuffer.conf
[06:41] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: In the text editor
[06:41] <Cyph3r> checking the forums, but is there a good guide on ubuntuforums for SSH?
[06:41] <DrPenguin> do you see blacklist vesafb?
[06:41] <Cyph3r> if anyone knows the title offhand
[06:41] <Shodowjedi01> let me look
[06:41] <DrPenguin> YOU DO THAT
[06:41] <Shodowjedi01> I do
[06:42] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: ok… is it commented out?
[06:42] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: What do you mean commented out?
[06:42] <DrPenguin> is there a # infront of it
[06:42] <Captain_Crow> is it something installed by default or do i have to type ccsm into the software center search bar? (last few times i been typing "compiz" into the download center and used the manage i found there which wrecked my OS and I've seen similar stories in the review section)
[06:43] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: No there isn't
[06:43] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: ok.. thats weird.. vesafb is blocked but its still running.. hmm
[06:43] <DrPenguin> so now.. the solution becomes.. either disable kms or remove vesafb.. the latter I think is the more viable option
[06:44] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow,  did you try just typing ccsm into terminal?
[06:44] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: I'll use your digression
[06:45] <Captain_Crow> Cyph3r, yes
[06:46] <pikpik> Hi. Is it possible to run .desktop files from Terminal?
[06:46] <almoxarife> pikpik: no need, run the app that the desktop file is associated with in terminal
[06:47] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: hmmmm.. maybe its uvesafb..?get a pastebin of lsmod for me please
[06:47] <Arizona_Bay> how do you locate an application in a terminal ?
[06:47] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: On it, one momment plz
[06:47] <hieveryone> howdy
[06:47] <Captain_Crow> it says ccsm is not installed
[06:47] <Cyph3r> sudo apt-get install ccsm
[06:47] <TiMiDo> Arizona_Bay,  locate app name
[06:47] <hieveryone> i'm new to linux, i'm getting an error "gstreamer encountered a general resource error"
[06:48] <hieveryone> when playing a dvd
[06:48] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: http://pastebin.com/wZtVQqYs
[06:48] <pikpik> almoxarife: It's a Windows executable associated with WINE.
[06:48] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, are you just trying to set up compiz?
[06:49] <Captain_Crow> yea
[06:49] <Shodowjedi01> alomoxarife: Or open in windows under virtualbox
[06:49] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, yeah, just jump in the terminal and type:    sudo apt-get install ccsm
[06:49] <Captain_Crow> ok
[06:49] <hieveryone> NEVERMIND. vlc fixed  the issue
[06:49] <hieveryone> thanks anyways
[06:49] <hieveryone> also, i want to learn alot about linux
[06:49] <hieveryone> but dont know where to begin
[06:49] <pikpik> almoxarife: I'm trying to make the program executable from "Dash home."
[06:50] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: hmm.. I dont see uvesafb in there.. this is weird.. can you install hwinfo and do sudo hwinfo --framebuffer?
[06:50] <hieveryone> any suggestions on where to start, i use ubuntu now
[06:50] <Captain_Crow> Cyph3r, it says "Unable to locate package ccsm"
[06:50] <Shodowjedi01> hieveryone: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/unix2.html
[06:50] <skegeek> Can anyone help me with the error I pastebin'd?
[06:51] <Shodowjedi01> hieveryone: http://tldp.org/
[06:51] <hieveryone> also windows wouldnt even recognize my laptop dvd player, linux did instantly, this kicks ass
[06:51] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: actually, forget that, can you  pastebin your /etc/efault/grub?
[06:51] <edbian> linux is great
[06:51] <hieveryone> thanks shodojedi01
[06:51] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: Roger that
[06:51] <hieveryone> thanks shodowjedi01
[06:51] <DrPenguin> */etc/default/grub/* forgot a d
[06:51] <DrPenguin> GAH no slash after grub
[06:51] <Zeroe> Anyone here tried connecting to CentOs lately?
[06:52] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, read this link on the cube in natty it is the same in oneirirc, notice the bit on setting up a compiz restart button. http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/howto-get-the-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-and-unity/
[06:53] <almoxarife> pikpik: what is 'dashhome'??
[06:53] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, crap sorry...it's:   sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:53] <hieveryone> oh wow http://tldp.org/ is really indepth, thanks alot ill deff give it a read
[06:53] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: Having trouble with that command and brb I need a mtn dew recharge
[06:54] <Shodowjedi01> hieveryone: np
[06:54] <DrPenguin> roflcopter ok
[06:54] <Cyph3r> lol-apalooza
[06:55] <derphead> goldtriapsuninfeatherly
[06:55] <derphead> whoops
[06:55] <derphead> well there goes that password to the world
[06:56] <pikpik> almoxarife: Oh, sorry. "Dash": http://www.ubuntu.com/sites/www.ubuntu.com/files/active/images/oneiric-features-overview-dash.jpg
[06:56] <Captain_Crow> Cyph3r, i've already tried "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" too, i just gave me the same thing
[06:56] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: ok I"m back and all dewed up!
[06:57] <urlin2u> derphead, weak one at that.
[06:57] <pikpik> almoxarife: In a nutshell, I'm trying to make Spotify look native (even though I'm using WINE).
[06:57] <Shodowjedi01> ty for your help and friendly disposition
[06:57] <almoxarife> pikpik: I am sort of lost, so you want to click on an exe file in dashhome
[06:57] <pikpik> almoxarife: Exactly.
[06:58] <almoxarife> pikpik: but only .desktop files are shown, right?
[06:58] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, and you haven't install compiz before?
[06:58] <pikpik> almoxarife: In dash/dash home? I'm not sure; I'm new to it. :\
[06:59] <almoxarife> pikpik: pretty sure that a .desktop file needs to exist to be seen in 'dashhome'
[06:59] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: heh, wheres my /etc/default/grub! kill your sperm on your own time
[07:00] <derphead> urlin2u: 26^23... that's like 108-bit
[07:00] <Cyph3r> what bothers me is how a bullet-point (using dreamweaver) will make a nice bullet in firefox, but a crazy ass symbol on a mac (camino i imagine)
[07:00] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: all this terminal work is taking it out of me
[07:00] <DrPenguin> pfft
[07:00] <DrPenguin> I live in terminal
[07:01] <pikpik> almoxarife: Hmmm... ok.
[07:01] <edbian> I also live in terminal
[07:01] <Shodowjedi01> "permission denied"
[07:01] <almoxarife> pikpik: which is why I gave on it and its gnome3 version and installed cairo-dock, so I could have handy access to anything I wanted with the click of the mouse, of course it does take adding the app/prog to it
[07:01] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: sudo !!
[07:02] <Shodowjedi01> *smacks self in face*
[07:02] <DrPenguin> (I literally mean !! too, it means run last command
[07:02] <Captain_Crow> Cyph3r, the last few times i installed it from the ubuntu download center, i typed "compiz" in the search box then downloaded the one that said manager, when I opened it and checkmarked the cube feature, the top bar and icon bar disappeared and i was left with nothing but the desktop background, and it stayed that way even after rebooting and there was no shutdown menu button anymore, i had to press the power button to bring u
[07:02] <Shodowjedi01> all
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> ahh**
[07:03] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, ahhh okay
[07:03] <Cyph3r> i think you need to reset your panel bars
[07:03] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: I dont mean to rush you, but ill be logging off soon, I need to be up in 4 hours for work
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> charlie@Hal-9000:~$ /etc/efault/grub
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> bash: /etc/efault/grub: No such file or directory
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> charlie@Hal-9000:~$ /etc/default/grub
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> bash: /etc/default/grub: Permission denied
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> charlie@Hal-9000:~$ /etc/default/grub/
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> bash: /etc/default/grub/: Not a directory
[07:03] <Shodowjedi01> charlie@Hal-9000:~$ /etc/defaultgrub
[07:03] <FloodBot1> Shodowjedi01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <edbian> fun
[07:04] <Cyph3r> Captain_Crow, what build of ubuntu are you using?
[07:04] <Captain_Crow> Cyph3r, after it happened i wasnt able to access anything, i had to reinstall ubuntu
[07:04] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: thats not a command.. its a file
[07:04] <Captain_Crow> 11.10
[07:05] <pikpik> almoxarife: Yeah... I'm trying to do something minimal for another user. So, I'd like to not install anything more than WINE, if reasonably possible.
[07:05] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: Get some rest
[07:05] <ugur> hi
[07:05] <Shodowjedi01> I"m pretty frazzled myself
[07:05] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: Thanks for the help though, friend. I appreciate it
[07:05] <DrPenguin> Shodowjedi01: lol ok, heres what I was bitin at. What we need to do is probably remove the vga=xxx lines from your kernel boot params and then update grub.. that hsould fix things
[07:05] <DrPenguin> its np
[07:06] <Shodowjedi01> DrPenguin: Right on
[07:07] <DrPenguin> ill see yall later then.. tomorrows my last day of work before holiday break.. hopefully I can get some slep @_@;
[07:07] <almoxarife> pikpik: doesn't wine offer up installed apps in a menu in dash? right side?
[07:07] <urlin2u> derphead, mostly dictionary words no capitals or punctuation or odd symbols.
[07:07] <urlin2u> no numbers
[07:09] <derphead> urlin2u: hokay
[07:09] <antz> hi
[07:10] <derphead> aww man I broke KDE again
[07:11] <almoxarife> derphead: deleted another odd named file/folder?
[07:12] <derphead> almoxarife: I just uninstalled bluetooth and ppp stuff. I have a VM snapshot. I'll roll it back.
[07:12] <almoxarife> derphead: how are you deleting?
[07:13] <Captain_Crow> should I just give up on trying to get compiz features to work on ubuntu 11.10 and just download ubuntu 10.04?
[07:13] <derphead> almoxarife: the muon program thingie
[07:13] <Captain_Crow> idk if im doing it wrong or if 11.10 is just buggy
[07:13] <psychognite> hello guys nybody knows how to create bootable usb using command
[07:13] <TiMiDo> Captain_Crow, lol
[07:13] <pikpik> almoxarife: I thought so, but I don't see it.
[07:13] <TiMiDo> still with the compiz issues?
[07:14] <urlin2u> Captain_Crow, did you look at the link I posted it describes what you will see and how to deal with it?
[07:14] <psychognite> anybody help me in creating bootable usb flash drive
[07:14] <almoxarife> pikpik: it may only exist in the 2d desktop
[07:14] <psychognite> anybody help me in creating bootable usb flash drive ????
[07:14] <TiMiDo> stop repeating you'r self Psychobudgie
[07:15] <urlin2u> psychognite, what OS ?
[07:15] <psychognite> window XP
[07:15] <psychognite> sir
[07:15] <ugur> hello I have a problem about battery charging.
[07:15] <ugur> ubuntu barely charge my xps 15 laptop battery.
[07:15] <ugur> Charging time increase during charge. btw windows is ok, no problem
[07:15] <urlin2u> psychognite, some have claimed unetbootin, never worked for me can be done in windows though.
[07:15] <fidel> ugur: how long does it take?
[07:15] <ugur> what can i do ?
[07:15] <fidel> ugur: i got a xps as well
[07:16] <urlin2u> with a legit MS iso. psychognite
[07:16] <ugur> i haven't measure full charge time but
[07:16] <psychognite> yes i have iso file of Window Xp
[07:16] <psychognite> urlin2u
[07:16] <ugur> i generally use xps on ac
[07:17] <psychognite> unetbootin does have option for windows also
[07:17] <psychognite> urlin2u
[07:17] <almoxarife> psychognite: wrong channel
[07:17] <ugur> fidel: indicator says 14 min. around 20 min.
[07:17] <urlin2u> psychognite, thats about it from me this is ubuntu support not XP.
[07:17] <Captain_Crow> urlin2u, what link?
[07:18] <pikpik> almoxarife: Ok.
[07:18] <Captain_Crow> reformedmusings?