[06:44] <gecko> help xD
[06:44] <gecko> I accidently hid the toolbar in amarok, how do I get it back
[06:45] <gecko> the part that has like file, settings, tools, etc
[06:45] <scorpioz> hi
[06:46] <scorpioz> anyone available for a little support (noob here)
[06:48] <gecko> whats up?
[06:50] <scorpioz> i am using xubutnu
[06:50] <scorpioz> just installed
[06:50] <scorpioz> and i wanted to know about network manager
[06:50] <scorpioz> i dont see it in applications
[06:50] <scorpioz> i got some help to use apt-get to get network mananger
[06:51] <scorpioz> basically i want to do a wifi scan and be able to see link quality etc
[06:51] <scorpioz> i used forms  to do sudo su and dclient iwconfig etc to get it to work
[06:51] <scorpioz> in my school /but that was without the key
[06:51] <scorpioz> i tried it here at my girl friends place and it does not get a dchp offer
[06:52] <scorpioz> i am using terminal
[06:52] <scorpioz> i set the essid and the key s:asciikey
[06:52] <scorpioz> then do dhclient and it requests broadcast but does not get any response
[06:53] <scorpioz> i want to know a 'gui utility' to scan/configure and (put it in panel bar on top) to see my wifi signal etc constantly
[06:53] <scorpioz> any takers ?
[07:41] <gerro> TheSheep: what was that one iptables command to route wlan0 to eth1 both ways, had tee in it. my user account got deleted sorry for asking again
[07:41] <gerro> TheSheep: was really long while back i asked ya :/
[07:47] <Jester45> TheSheep, are you here or just doing your never log off for a month things
[07:48] <gerro> Jester45: ah he just chillin
[07:49] <gerro> Jester45: you know any good iptables guides?
[07:49] <Jester45> !iptables
[07:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:49] <Jester45> try that
[07:49] <gerro> not really interested in the firewall aspect, think I already have that bookmarked though lol
[07:49] <Jester45> gerro, you wouldnt know php very good would ya
[07:50] <Jester45> what else does it do
[07:50] <gerro> Jester45: I want to connection bridge, not block em off is what I mean
[07:51] <Jester45> o
[07:52] <gerro> what you need php help with?
[07:52] <Jester45> http:/vidd.us/
[07:53] <Jester45> im tring to make a login thing
[07:53] <Jester45> ok...
[07:53] <Jester45> that works
[07:53] <Jester45> kinda
[07:53] <gerro> could you post the index-header.html to paste bin?
[07:54] <Jester45> i got it working kinda
[07:54] <Jester45> its REALLY big
[07:54] <gerro> well if its being rendered by my browser I don't see why you would strive for a rather large piece of code
[07:55] <Jester45> not the code
[07:55] <Jester45> look at the page
[07:56] <Jester45> the boxes are to big
[07:57] <gerro> I don't see anything on your page
[07:58] <Jester45> really
[07:58] <gerro> oh now I do
[07:58] <gerro> why does it want my name and age?
[07:58] <gerro> do you have a forum?
[07:59] <Jester45> because thats the test
[07:59] <Jester45> but i cant get it smaller
[07:59] <gerro> your ftp has broken links :D
[08:02] <Jester45> not my problem
[08:08] <TheSheep> gerro: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[08:08] <TheSheep> bah
[08:09] <Jester45> hi
[08:09] <Jester45> you wouldnt want to help me with some css/php ?
[08:09] <Jester45> could someone help me with http://vidd.us/ the form is WAY to big. the css is .login {float: right; font: 50%} i dont know whats wrong
[08:10] <TheSheep> Jester45: well, the whole header has such a big font set
[08:11] <Jester45> cant p class="login" change it?
[08:11] <TheSheep> Jester45: it can
[08:12] <TheSheep> Jester45: btw, you're supposed to close the
 with

[08:12] <Jester45> .login {float: right; font: 50%}
[08:12] <Jester45> i did
[08:12] <Jester45> its after the /form and before virtual
[08:12] <TheSheep> Jester45: you did not
[08:12] <TheSheep> Jester45: that's just one

[08:12] <TheSheep> Jester45: but you have two opening
's
[08:13] <Jester45> where
[08:13] <TheSheep> Jester45: I say, get it outside the
 and you are good
[08:13] <Jester45>

[08:13] <Jester45> <form action="index.php" method="post">
[08:13] <Jester45> Name: <input type="text" name="name" />
[08:13] <Jester45> Age: <input type="text" name="age" />
[08:13] <Jester45> <input type="submit" />

[08:14] <TheSheep>

[08:14] <TheSheep>

[08:14] <TheSheep> <form fontsize="2"act
[08:14] <Jester45> o
[08:14] <Jester45> i do
[08:14] <Jester45> fixed
[08:15] <TheSheep> Jester45: now move it outside the "site-name" div
[08:15] <TheSheep> Jester45: it's the one that has such a huge font set
[08:15] <Jester45> yea... but i need it in that div i think
[08:16] <Jester45> i want it in the upper right corner
[08:16] <TheSheep> Jester45: why?
[08:16] <TheSheep> Jester45: then move it there with css, but don't mess the html with presentation
[08:17] <TheSheep> Jester45: you can put the form at the very end as well
[08:17] <Jester45> but im gonna make it a login thing
[08:17] <TheSheep> Jester45: just put an id on the form
[08:17] <TheSheep> Jester45: and you can move it around as you please
[08:22] <Jester45> how
[08:22] <Jester45> like a div?
[08:23] <TheSheep> Jester45: position: absolute; top: 0; right: 0;
[08:23] <TheSheep> Jester45: btw, you have a typo in the page title >_<
[08:23] <Jester45> yea...
[08:24] <Jester45> vidd was suposed to fix that
[08:24] <Jester45> while putting stuff in the page
[08:24] <Jester45> looks like i have to fight though it all
[08:28] <Jester45> hey BFTD
[08:29] <Jester45> TheSheep, look at it now
[08:30] <BFTD> Hey Jester45
[08:31] <TheSheep> Jester45: looks good
[08:31] <TheSheep> Jester45: float it right
[08:32] <Jester45> would i remove the right: 0; and replace with float?
[08:35] <TheSheep> yes
[08:35] <Jester45> its not floating
[08:36] <TheSheep> Jester45: float: right;
[08:36] <benpicco> there is something wrong: I only get ca. 25kb/s in apt with an 6000kbit/s internet connection
[08:36] <Jester45> doh
[08:36] <benpicco> well, it's shared but it should be more
[08:36] <Jester45> benpicco, sometimes the servers are slow... but not that slow
[08:37] <TheSheep> Jester45: you need a dot before that 'login'
[08:37] <Jester45> benpicco, are you using only ubuntu's servers or third party ones
[08:38] <benpicco> Jester45: i use the ubuntu servers, the problem also occours when loading upsdates
[08:38] <benpicco> -s
[08:38] <Jester45> the updates are from the same servers
[08:40] <benpicco> well, atm, the connection is shared with ca. 20 computers, but I estimate that only 5 of them are currently loading something, and that might me some webpage
[08:41] <benpicco> if i use a dowloadmanager at one of the windows boxes here and open ca. 8 conections, I can get up to 700kb/s
[08:41] <benpicco> which means full speed
[08:41] <benpicco> oh, now apt told me, that it couldn't load all packets - this often happens
[08:42] <Jester45> there are download managers for linux
[08:42] <benpicco> also dor apt?
[08:42] <benpicco> for
[08:42] <Jester45> no
[08:43] <Jester45> axel - A light download accelerator
[08:43] <benpicco> but can't I tell it to work, well, more agressive?
[08:43] <Jester45> no
[08:44] <Jester45> not that i know of
[08:44] <Jester45> TheSheep, is still messed up
[08:51] <benpicco> hmm, without any download acceleration it not much faster on the windows boxes, too - well, at least I get up tu 50kb/s there
[08:51] <BFTD> is there no possible way to play .avi's in linux?
[08:51] <benpicco> BFTD: sure, eg with mPlayer or kaffeine
[08:51] <benpicco> or vlc player
[08:52] <BFTD> neither of those played it
[08:52] <benpicco> have you installed these binary codecs for mplayer?
[08:53] <BFTD> which ones?
[08:53] <insmod> wget is the best
[08:54] <Jester45> axel is better
[08:54] <insmod> i like term  :)
[08:55] <Jester45> is there a new devel release? the mirror's could be sucking up the bandqidth
[08:55] <Jester45> bandwidth
 dosn't that use wget as a back end ?
[08:56] <Jester45> might
[08:56] <insmod> :)
[08:56] <Jester45> but buts faster
[08:56] <insmod> wget rocks
[08:56] <benpicco> Jester45: no, the problem is linux-wide (and also the windows boxes are affected but it seems as they are prefered by our proxy...)
[08:56] <Jester45> man i need sleep
[08:57] <Jester45> benpicco, are you at a school or uni?
[08:57] <benpicco> BFTD: http://www3.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/essential-20061022.tar.bz2
[08:57] <benpicco> Jester45: schol
[08:57] <benpicco> school
[08:58] <benpicco> (the keyboards here are crappy ;) )
[08:58] <benpicco> BFTD: from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[09:03] <benpicco> oh, where has all the time gone? There was more left, when I came in here...
[09:22] <Lad> hi i need help
[09:22] <Jester45> !ask
[09:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:22] <Jester45> what ya need help with
[09:23] <Lad> i made too many panels and i dont know how to delete them
[09:23] <Jester45> right click on a panel select customize
[09:23] <Lad> then what
[09:23] <Jester45> then at the top
[09:23] <Lad> ok
[09:23] <Jester45> select what panel you dont want and press the -
[09:24] <Lad> there are like 33
[09:28] <Lad> thanks guys
[09:28] <Lad> i fixed it
[09:34] <Lad> help again, how to i readd my orignal toolbar
[09:35] <nzk> Alright, lets go through all the steps
[09:35] <nzk> 1. Learn English
[09:35] <Lad> okaay
[09:35] <nzk> 2. Come back when you finish Step 1
[09:35] <Lad> gimme a few mins
[09:35] <Lad> Okay, Ive learned English
[09:35] <Lad> Next?
[09:35] <nzk> Prove it
[09:36] <nzk> Don't just say what you've memorized
[09:36] <Lad> Well shit
[09:36] <nzk> !language
[09:36] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:36] <Lad> well can you please help me?
[09:37] <nzk> If you stop talking like a person who has never seen the outside of a Myspace before in their life, sure.
[09:38] <Lad> i deleted my toolbar and it was the orignal one, now i added a new one and was trying to get all of the items back but i cant get it, is there a way to revert the deletion of my original toolbar?
[09:38] <Lad> and i actually hate myspace
[09:39] <Lad> and i think i just figured it out
[09:41] <Lad> thanks anyway i got it
[09:42] <TheSheep> nzk: don't behave like that
[09:43] <TheSheep> nzk: if you don't want to help people, just don't
[09:43] <nzk> TheSheep, I'm just preparing him for real life
[09:43] <TheSheep> nzk: can you do it outside the official ubuntu support channels, please?
[09:44] <nzk> *fine*
[09:44] <TheSheep> nzk: thank you
[09:47] <nzk> How do I go on Usenet?
[09:49] <TheSheep> nzk: get a news client and connect it to some news server
[09:49] <TheSheep> nzk: or use google groups
[09:49] <_nnx_> I'm running a Pentium III, 1 GHz, 512 megs of RAM, lots of HD space, GeForce 2 MX.  Would Xubuntu be more appropriate for my machine than vanilla Ubuntu?
[09:49] <nzk> Whats a good news client?
[09:49] <TheSheep> nzk: slrn
[09:49] <TheSheep> _nnx_: it's more a question of what you like and what you are used to
[09:50] <TheSheep> _nnx_: both will work good
[09:50] <nzk> TheSheep, does that have a GUI?
[09:50] <TheSheep> nzk: of course not, I wouldn't use gui for *reading*
[09:50] <_nnx_> TheSheep: Well, I don't want to have things be really laggy.  I've noticed that they do that in Gnome.  I also noticed that Xfce has some odd behavior, but that was back with Edgy (and I think there was a major memory leak of some kind - I think that's patched by now).
[09:51] <TheSheep> _nnx_: gnome shouldn't be laggy with those spec -- if it is, there is probably something wrong with configuration
[09:52] <_nnx_> TheSheep: What would you say the 'target' machine for Xubuntu would be?  If system specs were the main determining factor.
[09:52] <TheSheep> _nnx_: anything starting at P2 500Mhz 128MB ram 3GB hdd
[09:53] <TheSheep> _nnx_: you can run it on worse hardware, but it will be slow
[09:53] <_nnx_> TheSpeech: And vanilla Ubuntu?  (BTW, thanks a lot for my n00b questions, I feel like I oughta know this already)
[09:53] <_nnx_> Answering, that is.
[09:53] <TheSheep> _nnx_: not sure, didn't use it for a logn time, but your box should handle it just right
[09:54] <TheSheep> _nnx_: I'd say, about 1GHz, 255MB ram and 5GB hdd should be smooth
[09:55] <_nnx_> TheSheep: Alright.  While I got your attention, have you heard of any problems with init and CPU usage bizarrities when upgrading from Edgy to Feisty?  I've had two crashes where that happened - init ate up 90% of the CPU, X apps kept eating up resources even though their server'd been killed, and Ctrl-Alt-Delete basically went ignored by the system.
[09:55] <nzk> I have a 3.46ghz 1GB ram machine that runs like molasses on Ubuntu
[09:55] <nzk> I have to use Xubuntu
[09:55] <_nnx_> nzk: Oh?  Have any idea of why?
[09:55] <nzk> No idea
[09:55] <nzk> It's been like this for as long as i can remember
[09:56] <_nnx_> nzt: Weird.
[09:56] <nzk> Who the hell is nzt?
[09:57] <_nnx_> My imaginary friend who insists on making me hit the wrong keys.
[09:57] <_nnx_> :)
[09:58] <nzk> TheSheep, whats a NNTPSERVER and what should I set it to?
[09:59] <TheSheep> nzk: it's an environment variable and you should set it to the address of the NNTP server you want to use
[09:59] <nzk> What server should I set it to?
[09:59] <_nnx_> In any case, thanks a lot, folks, I appreciate the help and time.
[11:28] <ethemc> what is the best solution for ltsp xubuntu , kubuntu , or ubuntu ?
[11:34] <TheSheep> ethemc: if there was a single best solution, then people wouyld only use that one
[11:36] <ethemc> :)
[11:37] <ethemc> :D
[11:37] <ethemc> ehuehueheu
[11:37] <TheSheep> ethemc: you need to consider your particular case
[11:37] <ethemc> ok so i'll ask another way, which one is the easyest one to install and config
[11:38] <TheSheep> ethemc: I think the one that comes with edubuntu
[11:38] <TheSheep> ethemc: it's basically all automatic
[11:38] <ethemc> xubuntu has also a ltsp option
[11:39] <TheSheep> tbh I never used it, so I can't comment, maybe someone else...
[11:39] <ethemc> ok thanks
[12:18] <gerro> I have a wusb54gc and in this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2863623&postcount=184 it says to use rt73 drivers with ndiswrapper however this document states there are native drivers for it http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/belkin/index.html so I'm a little confused
[12:18] <gerro> and what is with that power management feature mentioned about feisty usb devices (says it started in edgy)
[12:25] <gerro> PriceChild: hiya :)
[12:26] <PriceChild> hi :)
[12:28] <gerro> PriceChild: you come here often? seen you around few times
[12:29] <PriceChild> I do, I'm an ubuntu-irc op etc.
[12:30] <gerro> would have never known, you kinda quiet usually
[12:31] <gerro> hmm PriceChild you have any experience with ralink wireless devices?
[12:32] <PriceChild> yes... and they work perfectly for me
[12:32] <gerro> oh which ones you using?
[12:34] <gerro> sorry to sound a bit intrusive
[12:34] <gerro> I was just whining about this usb adapter I got a long while back
[12:34] <gerro> can't decide if I should try ndiswrapper or native drivers
[02:17] <homebrewcider> has anybody had any luck getting a Logitech USB headset working in Xubuntu?
[02:20] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: have you looked at the forums?
[02:20] <homebrewcider> xubuntu forums?
[02:21] <TheSheep> ubuntu forums
[02:21] <TheSheep> xubuntu and ubuntu are practically the same under the hood
[02:21] <homebrewcider> ah ok
[02:37] <homebrewcider> problem is the USB headset is detected in Kmix, levels are up but no sound
[02:43] <homebrewcider> the forums give me the instructions for setting the default sound device in Ubuntu, but not Xubuntu
[03:00] <mal> has anybody had any luck getting a Logitech 250 USB headset working in XUBUNTU, not UBUNTU?
[03:04] <TheSheep> mal: no, but there was someone asking the smae question earlier today and yesterday ;)
[03:05] <mal> yes, that was me, I got disconnected but it won't let me log in here as homebrewcider(which is me) because I'm "still here" from before
[03:05] <mal> can't change my nick, cos it's already being used ............by me
[03:06] <mal>  :'(
[03:06] <TheSheep> mal: give it some time to die
[03:06] <mal> ok
[03:06] <mal> anyway , the ubuntu forums give ubuntu answers
[03:06] <mal> not xubuntu answers
[03:07] <TheSheep> mal: you might try and install the gnome apps they refer to
[03:07] <TheSheep> mal: and use them
[03:07] <mal> done that
[03:07] <mal> but they're referring to gnome preferences
[03:08] <mal> this headset is identified in settings manager>sound
[03:08] <Amon-san> hi. my box says at command prompt amon@(none). where can i change my machine's name?
[03:08] <mal> the microphone box is checked
[03:08] <mal> but the speaker check box will not stay checked
[03:09] <homebrewcider> hehe
[03:09] <homebrewcider> I'm backas homebrewcider
[03:10] <TheSheep> Amon-san: system->network
[03:10] <TheSheep> Amon-san: in the 'general' tab
[03:17] <Amon-san> TheSheep: host oder domain name?
[03:17] <Amon-san> *or
[03:21] <Amon-san> ok. host name - it worked. btw: how do i change my window manager? i'd like tu run fluxbox (already installed) once in a while
[03:23] <Amon-san> anyone?
[03:27] <homebrewcider> ok, i've gto alsamixer in a terminal showing my logitech usb headset, the volume is way up, but no joy
[03:30] <homebrewcider> but in menu>settings>settings manager>sound   the speaker check box still refuses to stay checked
[03:34] <Amon-san> how do i change my window manager? i'd like tu run fluxbox (already installed) once in a while
[03:36] <k-os> ey. i get invalid boot sector on my hard drive @ boot. anyone know a fix for this?
[03:53] <Amon-san> how do i change my window manager? i'd like tu run fluxbox (already installed) once in a while
[04:15] <cipri> I have downloaded a Xubuntu 7.04 desktop-cd ... now it asks me about Usernmae and password.  I tried live, live...or root,root...but all that doesn't work. any idea ?
[04:16] <TheSheep> cipri: it shouldn't ask for username and password
[04:16] <TheSheep> cipri: verify the cd please
[04:16] <cipri> ok
[04:29] <Amon-san> how do i change my window manager? i'd like tu run fluxbox (already installed) instead of xfce every once in a while
[04:31] <Amon-san> anyone?
[04:33] <ablomen> Amon-san, log out and select fluxbox as your session in gdm
[04:33] <Amon-san> i'll try :-)
[04:36] <ablomen> :)
[04:36] <Amon-san> *sigh* it worked. but the fluxbox standard menu had no items at all
[04:37] <Amon-san> and the only settings i could access were the ones for the panel
[04:37] <ablomen> nope it doesnt use the system menu afaik
[04:37] <Amon-san> so how would i set up the menu?
[04:38] <ablomen> ehm editing some files, somewhere in .fluxbox i guess, havnt installed it here though, so dunno
[04:38] <Amon-san> *sigh* i'll stick to xfce then
[04:40] <ablomen> well as far as i can remember it isnt hard, it should be a pretty good structure, but if your pc isnt to slow, yeah id just stick to xfce
[04:41] <Amon-san> it's a notebook. pentium III 400 MHz 128 MB sd-ram
[04:41] <Amon-san> so even xfce is slow sometimes
[04:41] <ablomen> ah
[04:42] <ablomen> hmm yeah
[05:36] <soccerdude21490> Hey does anyone know if xUbuntu has support for certain PCI Ethernet Adapters/USB ethernet adapters?
[05:36] <soccerdude21490> I want to install xUBuntu onto an old PC, but it has no ethernet port
[05:37] <k-os> soccerdude21490: check the wiki for supported hardware?
[05:37] <soccerdude21490> alright, thats what I was going to do next.. but I wasn't sure if it had support for like all of them or whatever
[05:38] <k-os> the wiki will give you a better than answer than my guessings :)
[05:38] <soccerdude21490> alright.. do you have a link? I'm currently lookin for it but can't seem to find it
[05:39] <k-os> sure: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:40] <soccerdude21490> alright thanks a lot k-os! you're a life saver!
[05:40] <k-os> any time!
[06:27] <o19> hi, has anyone here ever had problems with displaying openoffice?
[06:27] <vinze> Nope
[06:27] <maxamillion> o19: no
[06:27] <TheSheep> o19: yes, on intel cards
[06:28] <TheSheep> o19: the top is all messy, right?
[06:28] <maxamillion> bah!
[06:28] <o19> jep...
[06:28] <o19> I solved that one on a later installation, but unfortunately i don't remember ;-)
[06:29] <o19> any ideas?
[06:30] <o19> Functionality is working fine for me, it's only that awful look...
[06:31] <vinze> Have you installed the GTK pack?
[06:31] <vinze> Something like openoffice-gtk
[06:31] <vinze> "openoffice.org-gtk"
[06:31] <o19> jep
[06:32] <TheSheep> o19: I can't find it right now :/
[06:32] <TheSheep> o19: maybe you can look at bugs.ubuntu.com
[06:34] <maxamillion> o19: are you comparing it to the openoffice-gnome look? because technically xubuntu leaves openoffice in its default appearance whereas gnome alters it greatly
[06:34] <cellofellow> Right now I am using an Ubuntu Edgy LiveCD and the fonts look great. I know it is using the nv driver and this is why. I know nVidia made my fonts look like gunk. Is there a way to fix said nVidia problem>?
[06:34] <maxamillion> cellofellow: the nvidia driver shouldn't have anything to do with your fonts ... i believe that would be a xorg config issue
[06:34] <cellofellow> hmmm
[06:35] <maxamillion> cellofellow: now its possible that the nvidia-settings tool changed your xorg
[06:35] <maxamillion> config*
[06:35] <cellofellow> let me reboot and see.
[06:35] <maxamillion> k
[06:35] <cellofellow> I never ran that as root, though.
[06:35] <maxamillion> sudo?
[06:35] <cellofellow> sudo, root, gksu, whatever.
[06:35] <cellofellow> Just as me.
[06:35] <maxamillion> rgr
[06:36] <maxamillion> hmm... i don't really know then
[06:36] <cellofellow> Using nvidia-legacy actually
[06:36] <maxamillion> cellofellow: what card do you have?
[06:36] <cellofellow> RIVA TNT2
[06:37] <maxamillion> oh wow
[06:37] <maxamillion> yeah ... -legacy
[06:40] <maxamillion> grazie: interesting .... i guess that might just be a bug
[06:41] <cellofellow> (weird. The Display settings don't work. I can't change resolution from the XFCE control panel)
[06:41] <grazie> there was an easy fix on a number of blogs/forums...but I can't remember the details :(
[06:42] <cellofellow> oops
[06:42] <cellofellow> I have to go real soon.
[06:45] <maxamillion> cellofellow: no worries, apparently grazie saw the same font issue with an old nvidia card and the legacy drivers ... its possible that its a bug
[06:45] <maxamillion> bah!
[06:45] <vinze> :P
[06:46] <o19> I even don't find that one... Is it possible that I've to install the openoffice.org-gtk first and then in a seperate step the other openoffice packages?
[06:46] <maxamillion> o19: shouldn't have to ... you might need to make sure to set the gtk-theme (which i thought would be automatic, but possibly not)
[06:49] <o19> I didn't find the option to choose this, so I thought it would automatically be set, too... but I'll have another try then.
[06:55] <o19> Looking for it on google I read about changing the color depth, but that didn't change anything at all...
[06:55] <maxamillion> o19: you could try installing gtk-theme-switch and see if that helps (though i think the xfce config tool should do the same thing the theme switcher does)
[06:59] <b00t> hello everyone
[07:00] <vinze> Hey
[07:00] <b00t> could anyone help me installing xubuntu plz
[07:00] <vinze> There are many instructions online
[07:00] <b00t> i know
[07:00] <vinze> Start with those
[07:00] <b00t> i searched them all
[07:00] <b00t> theres something wrong though
[07:00] <vinze> But...?
[07:00] <b00t> i cant boot from the cd!
[07:00] <b00t> i burned it at 8x
[07:00] <b00t> and when i check the cd for defects it shows errors
[07:00] <vinze> Does it produce an error or does it just not load at all?
[07:01] <b00t> error while checking for cd defect
[07:01] <b00t> i burned it the first time with nero
[07:01] <b00t> when it didnt work i burned it with infrarecorder
[07:01] <vinze> Perhaps the .iso you downloaded was corrupted?
[07:01] <b00t> i checked the hash
[07:01] <b00t> its the same as the one in the xubuntu site
[07:02] <vinze> OK... Perhaps you could try the alternate install cd
[07:02] <b00t> whts the difference plz!
[07:02] <vinze> Well, the alternate install cd does not boot you into the desktop, so it might be a bit more scary
[07:02] <vinze> But it should work nonetheless
[07:02] <b00t> um well am a newbie i might get lost if it didnt boot me to desktop
[07:02] <b00t> besides am on isdn
[07:03] <b00t> means my download speed is 10 kb
[07:03] <vinze> Ow that sucks
[07:03] <b00t> it would take at least 22 hours to download
[07:03] <b00t> ya
[07:03] <b00t> very
[07:03] <b00t> wht may b the cause of tht!
[07:03] <b00t> i tried 2 iso!
[07:03] <vinze> Well, I'm not that much of an expert either, so I'm afraid I'm not really able to help you :(
[07:03] <b00t> from different mirrors
[07:03] <b00t> hmm its ok thanks for trying though
[07:04] <vinze> np
[07:17] <o19> got it, sreen depth to 16bit, and then switching the theme to anotherone and back ;-)
[07:18] <o19> thx @all
[08:05] <k^^> where do I change system sounds in xubuntu?
[08:06] <TheSheep> k^^: xubuntu doesn't have system sounds
[08:06] <k^^> ok :)
[08:06] <k^^> can I add them?
[08:07] <TheSheep> k^^: the login sound can be changes in system->login window
[08:07] <TheSheep> k^^: no, it just doesn't do anything like that
[08:07] <k^^> I want to have a sound on my system beep
[08:07] <k^^> ok
[08:08] <k^^> any ideas?
[08:08] <TheSheep> k^^: you might be able to do somethng with the beep tweaking the esd configuration
[08:08] <TheSheep> k^^: but I don't know how exactly
[08:08] <k^^> mkay, esd?
[08:09] <k^^> :)
[08:09] <TheSheep> k^^: /etc/esound/esd.conf
[08:09] <k^^> ok
[08:10] <TheSheep> k^^: it's just a guess
[08:10] <k^^> thanks anyway :)
[08:10] <sisseck> anyone here know how to turn a standard xubuntu into an internet gateway?
[08:11] <TheSheep> sisseck: sure
[08:11] <TheSheep> sisseck: there are tutorial on the wiki
[08:12] <sisseck> ok thanks, i'll see what i can dig up
[08:13] <TheSheep> sisseck: you can get the most needed commands form here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessLaptopInternetAccessPoint
[09:11] <ALASKAMAN> can any point me in right direction on how to make a script from my shell when other users do !eggdrop it will untar the newest ver of egdrop bot
[10:27] <Merchelo> !info eggdrop
[10:27] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1 (feisty), package size 461 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[10:29] <Jester45> is there a printer spool  for linux? or something like it
[10:33] <Jester45> hi maxamillion
[10:34] <maxamillion> hi hi
[10:34] <maxamillion> Jester45: you have any idea why my scroll wheel on my mouse just randomly stopped working?
[10:34] <Jester45> NO
[10:34] <maxamillion> yeah ... me either
[10:34] <Jester45> look at your xorg.conf
[10:35] <maxamillion> yeah, i've been poking around ... not sure what's wrong
[11:55] <BFTD> I do I turn off acpi?
[11:57] <cellofellow> put acpi=no in your kernel options
[12:12] <BFTD> hey guys I missed what cellowfellow said, can omsone bring it up again? I lost power
[12:27] <BFTD> wb cellofellow
[12:28] <cellofellow> hello
[12:29] <BFTD> sorry I missed what you said, I had a power outage
[12:29] <cellofellow> said about what?
[12:34] <BFTD> acpi
[12:36] <cellofellow> BFTD: put 'acpi=no' in your kernel options (menu.lst) to disable it.
[12:36] <BFTD> ok
[12:36] <BFTD> I did
[12:36] <BFTD> thanks btw
[12:39] <der> sup
[12:39] <BFTD> hey
[12:46] <BFTD> hey cellofellow I did what you told me, and it worked! But now none of my battery monitors work...
[12:47] <cellofellow> I suppose that would be because the battery stuff is acpi based.
[12:47] <cellofellow> Perhaps you would like to turn acpi back on, and just turn off the parts you don't want.
[12:48] <BFTD> cellofellow no
[12:48] <BFTD> My system crashes if my battery isn't full or if I unplug it
[12:49] <cellofellow> because of acpi?
[12:49] <cellofellow> not that I've tried much.
[12:49] <cellofellow> I know that nVidia causes some trouble with resume.
[12:50] <cheeseboy> im trying to compile mysql i get this error http://pastebin.ca/600538 how do i fix?
[12:51] <cellofellow> first question: why compile?
[12:51] <BFTD> cellofellow I don't know if its because of acpi but I know I fixed it by turning off acpi
[12:51] <cellofellow> cheeseboy: looks like missing dependencies.
[12:52] <cellofellow> cheeseboy: if you need newest version, you can probably get it at getdeb.net
[12:52] <cheeseboy> what is the dependency im missing ?
[12:52] <cheeseboy> i have it installed from apt
[12:52] <cheeseboy> just need to compile it for another pc
[12:53] <cellofellow> for another? why not compile it there. Chances are it won't work on the other after you finally get it built on this one.
[12:53] <cellofellow> you may need a -dev package or two
[12:53] <cheeseboy> cellofellow, there kernel is messed up
[12:54] <cheeseboy> virtual memory errors comiling stuff
[12:54] <cellofellow> sounds like something I don't know how to fix :(
[12:54] <cheeseboy> so i compile on this pc instead :)
[12:55] <cheeseboy> but what am i missing that would cause that?
[12:56] <cellofellow> IANAG == I Am not a Guru
[12:56] <vidd> how do you cp an entire directory to another directory?
[12:57] <cellofellow> vidd: cp -a /dir/* /otherdir/
[12:57] <cellofellow> copies everything, including permissions
[12:57] <vidd> ty
[12:58] <cellofellow> that copies the files, skip the * to copy the dir


[02:01] <parzzix> Hello?
[02:58] <parzzix> I'm looking to get involved....need guidance and place to start..off to bed, but if you see this shoot me an email at tim at apples dot email..thanks
[04:00] <valorie> parzzix: please join the Kubuntu-devel list and tell us all what you are interested in doing
[04:00] <valorie> and we'll do our best to point you in the right direction
[04:00] <valorie> or just talk to me now
[05:06] <fewcha_> How to install Qt 5.4 in Kubuntu?
[05:19] <fewcha_> I was trying to build plasma from source from https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Building but when I am running kdesrc-build, it is giving the following error when it is trying to build kxmlrpcclient (build system KDE) from frameworks: https://paste.kde.org/p40jti5si/eumyas
[05:20] <fewcha_> I wanted to contribute to the kde plasma-mediacenter, but since it is not possible to build the plasma-mediacenter separately from source because it has runtime deps to plasma-workspace, so I need to build plasma-workspace before that
[05:20] <fewcha_> and for that I need Qt 5.4 in my system
[05:21] <fewcha_> so can someone please tell me how to install Qt 5.4 in Kubuntu 14.04.2 LTS ?
[05:23] <fewcha_> Only qt4-x11 is there in the Kubuntu backports as shown in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+index?batch=75&direction=backwards&memo=825&start=750
[05:25] <fewcha_> although libqt5core5a is already installed and the newest version
[05:27] <fewcha_> and dpkg -l|grep -e libqt |grep -e dev is giving output https://paste.kde.org/p0d5khqkn/dhp7i1 so I am not sure what I am missing
[06:24] <valorie> hi fewcha_ -- I would ask in #kde-devel
[06:24] <valorie> most of our devels are gone this particular weekend
[06:25] <valorie> you probably will get most of the dependencies you need with something like sudo apt install build-dep plasma-workspace plasma-mediacenter
[06:25] <valorie> or so
[06:29] <fewcha_> valorie: okay
[06:29] <fewcha_> thanks
[06:29] <fewcha_> :)
[06:30] <valorie> good luck
[06:31] <fewcha_> :)
[07:11] <fewcha_> valorie: well, here's what I am getting anyway: https://paste.kde.org/pewfexu6t/gy6q7f
[07:18] <valorie> oops, leave out `install`
[07:18] <valorie> my mistake
[07:18] <fewcha_> ah, okay :)
[07:18] <valorie> build-dep is a command, not a packaGE
[07:18] <valorie> and you may have to do that twice
[07:19] <valorie> once for plasma-workspace and once for plasma-mediacenter
[07:19] <valorie> but try it for both to save time
[07:19] <fewcha_> okay
[07:21] <fewcha_> valorie: "sudo apt build-dep anything" is showing "E: Invalid operation build-dep"
[07:22] <valorie> that's strange
[07:22] <valorie> works for me
[07:22] <valorie> I'm building amarok right now
[07:22]  * fewcha_ is going through https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1310294
[07:22] <valorie> I just ran `sudo apt-get build-dep amarok`
[07:23] <valorie> ewww
[07:23] <fewcha_> oh its apt-get
[07:23] <fewcha_> sorry
[07:23] <valorie> ah, apt is behind apt-get for that I guess
[07:23] <valorie> I usually use apt, and if that doesn't work, fall back to the oldie but goody apt-get
[07:24] <fewcha_> okies :)
[07:25] <fewcha_> hmm, i think it worked
[07:29] <fewcha_> but that's not what I require to fix the problem imo
[07:30] <fewcha_> let me just see what the kde-devel guys have to say about this :)
[07:30] <valorie> get more dependencies installed is never a bad thing
[07:32] <fewcha_> hmm, right :)
[07:33] <fewcha_> actually I tried a "sudo apt-get build-dep kxmlrpcclient" as well
[07:33] <fewcha_> but it's unable to find a source package for that
[07:35] <valorie> !info kxmlrpcclient
[07:36] <valorie> !info kxmlrpc
[07:37] <fewcha_> btw, kxmlrpcclient because https://paste.kde.org/pokb6fxjb/ekwe5n
[07:37] <valorie> $ apt-cache search kxmlrpc
[07:37] <valorie> libkblog4 - client-side support library for web application remote blogging APIs
[07:37] <valorie> libkf5xmlrpcclient-data - data files for kxmlrpcclient
[07:37] <valorie> libkf5xmlrpcclient-dbg - debug symbols for kxmlrpcclient
[07:37] <valorie> libkf5xmlrpcclient-dev - development files for kxmlrpcclient
[07:37] <valorie> libkxmlrpcclient4 - simple XML-RPC client library
[07:37] <valorie> you probably need the -dev
[07:38] <fewcha_> oh
[07:38] <valorie> apt-cache search helps
[07:38] <valorie> if at first it finds nothing, take off some characters
[07:38] <fewcha_> its showing me libkblog4 and libkxmlrpcclient4
[07:39] <valorie> notice what I searched for
[07:39] <fewcha_> yeah I have done that only
[07:39] <fewcha_> rpc
[07:39] <valorie> apt-cache policy packagename shows you what you have installed
[07:40] <valorie> I think apt show does about the saem
[07:40] <valorie> same
[07:40] <fewcha_> okay
[07:41] <fewcha_> so I am installing libkf5xmlrpcclient-data, libkf5xmlrpcclient-dbg, and libkf5xmlrpcclient-dev then
[07:41] <valorie> and you can use ^ as a wildcard sometimes
[07:41] <valorie> if you just do -dev, it will pull in what you need
[07:41] <valorie> simpler
[07:42] <valorie> I've never done kdesrc-build so I'm not able to make sense of your whole paste
[07:43] <fewcha_> hmm
[07:43] <valorie> but trying to build amarok, I'm coming up with the same "Unable to compile a basic Qt application.  Qt has not been found correctly."
[07:44] <valorie> so I'm thinking there is a common problem here
[07:44] <fewcha_> hmm, so how did you fix it when you got that the first time?
[07:45] <fewcha_> is there any way to build plasma-mediacenter without using kdesrc-build?
[07:45] <valorie> I didn't
[07:45] <valorie> ah, I don't think so
[07:45] <valorie> I read #kde-devel and #plasma
[07:45] <valorie> and that's how everyone does it
[07:46] <valorie> but those are the folks you need to ask
[07:46] <valorie> bshah is very helpful if he's about
[07:48] <fewcha_> I cloned mediacenter separately locally and when I do "cmake -DKDE_INSTALL_USE_QT_SYS_PATHS=ON -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kf5-config --prefix` .." from its build folder I get an error starting with "kf5-config: command not found"
[07:48] <fewcha_> yeah, I have talked to him recently in private
[07:49] <valorie> he's in this chan as well so he must be not at his keyboard, or not looking at IRC
[07:49] <fewcha_> he said that I need to install Qt 5.4 in my system to run kdesrc-build correctly and told me to ask it in #kubuntu and they further asked me to ask in #kubuntu-devel
[07:50] <valorie> it's nearly 1 am here, so I'm going to write to amarok-devel list about my error and see if I get any insight there
[07:50] <fewcha_> he also told me to ask it in #kde-devel as well :)
[07:50] <fewcha_> okay, thanks a lot :)
[07:50] <valorie> !info qt
[07:51] <valorie> right, tell me the packagename silly ubottu
[07:51] <fewcha_> haha :D
[07:52] <valorie> https://wiki.qt.io/Install_Qt_5_on_Ubuntu
[07:53] <fewcha_> hmm, I have gone through that, but maybe it is for 5.0.2
[07:54] <valorie> seems taht `sudo apt-get install build-essential libgl1-mesa-dev` might be useful
[07:54]  * valorie tries
[07:54] <valorie> I already have it
[07:54] <valorie> grrrr
[07:55] <fewcha_> so do I :D
[07:57] <fewcha_> btw, this: https://paste.kde.org/pcy2gdzia/qcqstr in case it helps
[07:58] <valorie> I hope never to mess with cmake past pasting in the correct command
[08:00] <valorie> of course apt search qt filled bash's buffer
[08:00] <valorie> there has to be a meta-package
[08:00] <valorie> maybe muon will tell me
[08:02] <valorie> aha, qtbase5-dev
[08:03] <valorie> version 5.4.1
[08:03] <valorie> not sure that's right, but you can ask
[08:04] <valorie> I doubt I need that for amarok
[08:27] <fewcha_> hmm, qtbase5-dev seems to be already installed here
[08:35] <valorie> ok
[08:35]  * valorie has got to head bedward
[08:36] <valorie> I hope you can get some help later
[08:36] <fewcha_> valorie: cool, btw please let me know when you get some reply from the amarok-devel list
[08:37] <fewcha_> thanks :)
[08:37] <fewcha_> nite
[08:37] <fewcha_> :)
[08:37] <valorie> ah, I already found out that trying to build a Qt4 application with Qt5 won't work
[08:38] <fewcha_> okay
[08:38] <valorie> has to be a separate install, separately pointed to
[08:38]  * valorie has not enough time to set that up
[08:38] <fewcha_> cool
[08:38] <fewcha_> will talk later then :)
[09:54] <santa_> good morning
[09:54] <santa_> valorie: you don't need a separate installation to build qt programs, this is the script I'm using to call cmake for building krecipes: https://paste.kde.org/pwxgprmlv
[09:55] <santa_> export QT_SELECT=4 is the important bit
[10:20] <murthy_> need to paste image, which one should I use?
[10:22] <santa_> I guess can use this one: http://imagebin.ca/
[10:29] <murthy_> http://imagebin.ca/v/27Sckxd8zprg
[10:32] <murthy_> I am trying to troubleshoot my kubuntu 15.04. The problem is it takes 3 mins to shutdown. I found that kactivitymanager segfaults using dmesg and so I opened it in gdb to find the above error. Can kactivitymanager be disabled for testing purpose and is it safe?
[10:32] <murthy_> Further guidance to find the bug would be helpful
[10:33] <santa_> murthy_: could you check if you have libqt5sql5-sqlite installed?
[10:36] <murthy_> santa_: ya, its installed, I check it now. I had seen the error message and found the line libqt5sql so so I found the containing package which you told me. I even reinstalled it yesterday, just in case it got corrupted. I checked all the packages with debsums
[10:37] <murthy_> santa_: Can I run a check on the sql database in my system
[10:39] <murthy_> santa_: Can a corrupt database cause lead kactivitymanager to segfault? I am not able to get a backtrace since the process crashes after the shutdown gets initiated. You could see that in the image
[10:40] <murthy_> santa_: Yesterday I pasted my kernel log here. If you want to take a look I will give you
[10:44] <murthy_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kactivities-kf5/+bug/1445167
[10:44] <fewcha_> santa_: Can you tell me how to install Qt 5.4 in Kubuntu?
[10:51] <Guest29428> murthy_: can you reproduce the bug with a fresh new account?
[10:51] <murthy_> Guest29428: ok, let me try
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:54] <murthy_> BluesKaj: hi
[10:54] <BluesKaj> hey murthy_
[10:54] <murthy_> santa_: I have created a new user, should I restart before I login to the new user?
[10:55] <murthy_> santa_: ok, first i will try without restarting. brb
[10:56] <santa_> murthy_: yeah, no need to restart
[11:04] <murthy_> santa_: I logged into the new user and shutdown the system. still there is a delay of 3 mins
[11:06] <murthy_> after initiating the shutdown systemctl list-jobs  highlight session-2.scope as running and other processes as waiting
[12:40] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[20:14] <valorie> santa, thanks so much! I will try it
[20:26] <santa_> :)
[20:29] <valorie> now time to water the flowers; we are suffering extreme heat
[20:41] <vip> if i can say something, just drink water (or tea) to prevent stroke
[20:53] <valorie> oh yes, this is the second week of the heat wave here
[20:53] <valorie> lots and lots of water and some coffee too
[20:53] <valorie> fortunately I have a/c so I can recover
[20:54] <valorie> poor plants are stuck in the blazing sun though
[20:54] <valorie> much more and much earlier than usual in the puget sound area
[21:31] <parzzix> I am going to get my feet wet with learning to code. What do people here think about Learning Python the Hard Way? Any opinions?
[22:28] <lordievader> What do you mean with 'the hard way'?
[22:29] <lordievader> parzzix: ^
[22:30] <parzzix> hey lordievader, its a book
[22:31] <lordievader> Ah, I started with codecademy and then started my own projects in python3.
[22:41] <valorie> parzzix: many people began by trying to fix/improve/invent something they wanted
[22:41] <valorie> that person itch to make it happen seems to help folks over the hard bits
[22:42] <lordievader> Yeah, you learn the quickest by doing.
[22:50] <mparillo> I know we like to follow upstream, but I like this wall paper. Simple, but it really pops. https://plus.google.com/+quidsup/posts/TsYJUYFD39n
[22:53] <valorie> that's lovely


 :D
[19:24] <pavlushka> and yes, it is fun :)
[19:24] <Nahiyan> Ektu halka problem ache amar...
[19:24] <Nahiyan> porshodin amar ekta olympiad
[19:24] <Nahiyan> BD Physics Olympiad 2016
[19:25] <pavlushka> Nahiyan: that's no actually a problem
[19:25] <Nahiyan> hmm
[19:25] <Nahiyan> then
[19:25] <Nahiyan> porshodiner porer din I have an exam on math
[19:25] <pavlushka> Nahiyan: the point is not taking the Olympiad as an Exam :p
[19:25] <Nahiyan> Aaaah
[19:25] <Nahiyan> :D
[19:25] <Nahiyan> competition onik tough hobe
[19:26] <Nahiyan> there are like
[19:26] <Nahiyan> 300 Notre Dame students participating xD
[19:26] <Nahiyan> maybe 150
[19:26] <pavlushka> Nahiyan: So? what? still its an Olympiad :p
[19:26] <Nahiyan> :) yea
[19:27] <Nahiyan> Ok parade
[19:27] <Nahiyan> Dekhi Jamuna or Bashundhara khola thakbe naki
[19:31] <pavlushka> Good luck
[19:38] <pavlushka> night night :)
[19:38] <zaki> good night
[19:38] <Kilos> night
[19:38] <Kilos> sleep well


[01:15] <Miles8of9> trump wins again... -_-
[12:35] <RikMills> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2020-February/004893.html
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> anyone want to try an easy bug please: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qbittorrent/+bug/1862016
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> Ussat: testing 20.04 yet?
[14:15] <Ussat> been busy, I will be....
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> cool
[14:16] <Ussat> I have not had time really yet.......big system upgrade comming next week
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> !info qbittorrent