[04:38] <roasted> hello
[04:38] <roasted> fired up my r-pi with openelec tonight
[04:38] <roasted> worked wonderfully
[04:38] <roasted> once I get my hdds in for my server Ill host videos there and auto mount the smb share on the r-pi... stream over the network. pro.
[06:08] <InHisName> I want to set an evironment variable BEFORE invoking python.  How to do that ?    gksu python script.py
[10:36] <rmg51> Morning
[12:43] <waltman> Morning.
[12:50] <JonathanD> hi waltman
[12:54] <waltman> yo
[14:08] <InHisName> Hey anyone pay attention to my 1am question?   Oh, yes, Good Morning !
[14:26] <waltman> InHisName: VAR=value python script.py
[14:27] <waltman> That works for any command, e.g. TZ=Europe/Helsinki date
[14:29] <InHisName> But, waltman, when I click the Icon on desktop with the command from 1am comment, the path is not there, it fails.  Need a way to inject the path before starting the command.    ---> gksu python script.py
[14:30] <waltman> what's gsku?
[14:30] <InHisName> Would   VAR=value  gksu python script.py work ?
[14:30] <waltman> probably, depending on what gksu is
[14:30] <waltman> ah
[14:31] <InHisName> I'll try that then.
[14:31] <waltman> you could also try putting it after gksu. With sudo it works either way.
[14:33] <InHisName> Nope,  adding that into the front of command does NOT work.  Program does not start anymore.
[14:33] <InHisName> OK, I'll try that, then.
[14:35] <InHisName> Nope, just prompt for su password, then nada !
[14:35] <InHisName> Where can I put it during bootup.  THAT should do it just grand.
[14:35] <InHisName> ubuntu 12.10
[14:36] <InHisName> It was put into .bashrc but no good either.   can't find an "rc" file for python.
[14:38] <waltman> can you modify the environment variable inside the script?
[14:41] <waltman> http://o3.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/PATCH/resize/600x450/http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/patch/1d65d35c3eea7d49422576a13d4b6b50 # this is what it was like getting home on the R5 yesterday
[15:07] <InHisName> The R5 is a coal train???
[15:08] <InHisName> Did you really get to help shovel ?
[15:09] <InHisName> I tried using -->os.environ['VARIB']="stuf"  but that aparently wasn't good enough to work.
[15:10] <waltman> OK, maybe I'm exaggerating a bit...
[15:10] <InHisName> Best that I set it during boot.  What script always runs that I can add an export environment var to it ?
[15:11] <waltman> That is, in fact, the same train line, but from like 100 years ago.
[15:11] <waltman> http://brynmawr.patch.com/articles/historical-snow-photo-where-and-when-was-this-taken#photo-13128409
[15:16] <InHisName> Boy !  you've been riding that train way too long, waltman
[19:41] <Samuraialba> Good bacon to all!
[19:41] <Samuraialba> I'm now a SubReddit Mod :O
[19:41] <Samuraialba> www.reddit.com/r/ImNewOnTheInternet
[20:13] <InHisName> I'm too young for that stuff
[20:23] <Samuraialba> lol
[22:21] <teddy-dbear> stupid 12.10 is taking way to long to update
[22:21] <teddy-dbear> it's been installing stuff almost all day :P
[22:24] <Samuraialba> ouch
[22:24] <Samuraialba> what is your connect like?
[22:33] <teddy-dbear> download is done
[22:33] <teddy-dbear> it's all install for like the lat 4 hours
[22:36] <Samuraialba> oh wow
[22:36] <Samuraialba> :(
[22:36] <Samuraialba> I'm afraid to fire up my server VM for it now
[22:36] <Samuraialba> lol
[22:37] <Samuraialba> got a spiffy DUAL Quad Xeon
[23:09] <teddy-dbear> finally at the clean up stage
[23:10] <teddy-dbear> now i have to restart my laptop because of a kernel update :-/


[23:23] <mwhudson> i wonder what is going on here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/syslinux/+bug/1937115
[23:24] <mwhudson> aside from it definitely not being assigned to the right source package


[01:54] <philipballew> all checked in for SD ubuntu hour
[02:01] <raevol> waddap philipballew lololol
[02:35] <raevol> 4 people at san diego ubuntu hour
[02:35] <raevol> woot woot
[02:36] <MarkDude> Yay
[02:52] <raevol> gonna save my batt
[03:20] <andrewrgross> quit
[03:21] <andrewrgross> exit
[03:21] <andrewrgross> no?
[05:05] <philipballew> the San Diego ubuntu hour was a success
[05:05] <pleia2> yay :)
[05:07] <MarkDude> +1
[05:07] <philipballew> All's well with ubuntu here!
[05:19] <raevol> :D
[05:26] <raevol> philipballew: you there
[05:26] <raevol> ah nevermind
[05:28] <philipballew> raevol, im here now!
[05:29] <philipballew> but i see you dont want me anymore
[05:29]  * philipballew goes and cries in a corner at this rejection
[05:30] <raevol> was going to ask what LVM was
[05:30] <raevol> but google was there for me in my time of need!
[05:30] <raevol> i'm leaving you for google phil, sorry
[05:34] <philipballew> its okay. The next time you ask me a question I'll just have to use www.lmgtfy.com to be a come back
[05:35]  * philipballew plans revenge
[05:35] <raevol> there's some kind of meta joke here, but i am not clever enough to get it
[05:36]  * philipballew doesnt get his jokes either
[05:36] <raevol> my apt-get update on this ubuntu server install is choking
[05:36]  * raevol shakes his fist at the default package mirror
[05:37] <raevol> my favorite part about installing servers is when you get to the point where you can shell into them
[05:37] <raevol> because then you can just bury them in some corner and work from a shell
[05:37] <philipballew> ssh is amazing
[05:37] <raevol> yes
[05:38] <raevol> it's like the command line, except you HAVE to use it
[05:38] <philipballew> because i can sit on my laptop and never have to get up to work on anything
[05:38] <raevol> hehe
[06:08] <raevol> anyone have any ideas on configuring this eeepc to shut the screen off when the lid is closed? eeepc 701 running ubuntu server 11.10
[06:09] <philipballew> you need to edit a lid closed file somewhere i beleive. i have seen it. is this headless?
[06:09] <raevol> well, it's a netbook
[06:09] <raevol> but i have ubuntu server on it
[06:16] <raevol> ah the screen went to sleep by itself after a period of time
[06:16] <raevol> good enough
[06:17] <philipballew> sounds good to me. is ssh enabled on it?
[06:19] <raevol> yea, already shelled in
[06:19] <raevol> putting it in its home behind the more important stuff on my desk now
[06:20] <philipballew> just give it air so it can breathe :)
[06:21] <raevol> :D
[06:30] <raevol> ok philipballew do you know much about apache
[06:32] <philipballew> a little. what about it you wanting to know. if i dont know, someone here probaly does
[06:33] <raevol> well, the default shared directory for my html files is /var/www
[06:33] <raevol> i made that a link to /home/raevol/public_html
[06:33] <raevol> but i'm getting a 403
[06:33] <raevol> the public_html dir and the index.htm in it has +r and +x for everyone
[06:33] <raevol> am i missing anything?
[06:37] <raevol> nevermind just did it the other way
[17:23] <SpamapS> Howdy fellow Ubuntu Californians...
[17:23] <SpamapS> Anybody interested in helping me setup/man a booth for Ubuntu (and possibly Debian) at the MySQL User's Conference in Santa Clara, April 10-12 ?
[17:23] <SpamapS> http://www.percona.com/live/mysql-conference-2012/
[17:23]  * SpamapS will also send email
[17:25] <pleia2> hey there SpamapS
[17:27] <pleia2> I can't, my spring is already full of holes with vacations and conferences, my boss is starting to make "we never work!" comments :)
[19:49] <SpamapS> pleia2: darn it, I was kind of hoping you'd be available. :)
[20:06]  * MarkDude is possible for that time SpamapS , as long as I need not be really skilled :D
[21:43] <broder> man, today would have been a good stay-home-and-drink-beer-on-the-roof day
[21:44] <pleia2> yeah, it's beautiful out
[23:00] <MarkDude> Towards the end they talk about Ubuntu on Android http://twit.tv/show/tech-news-today/441 Tom said he really support Linux


[02:44] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[10:36] <ice9> https://bpa.st/SC6BW
[12:30] <tomreyn> ice9: what you are describing has actually been described by many others before, and in quite similar terms. and while it's entirely understandable, that someone would start to believe such exists, because there have actually been documented 'psychological warfare' programs by some governments (i know such is documented for at least the U.S. and there is indication that Russia may have such - havana syndrome / moscow signal), the very
[12:30] <tomreyn> details you describe look a lot more like the common effect of schizophrenia. i know that's insulting, and i don't mean to be, but the very themes you are describing do look a lot like it. so don't rule this out, and do talk to doctors, too.
[12:39] <tomreyn> ice9: (and, of course, this is off-topic on this channel, since it si not ubuntu related)


[00:24] <Unit193> bluesabre: Lets move here?  And thanks!
[00:25] <bluesabre> :)
[00:26] <bluesabre> noticed that x-d-s trunk has "obsolete templates" here https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings, haven't seen that before
[00:27] <Unit193> Not sure you saw the question, but will I have to/should I move all the bitbucket repos to launchpad now?  The UI isn't complete, so you have to know the link though.
[00:28] <bluesabre> Unit193: sure, feel free to do so
[00:28] <Unit193> Awwwh. :'(
[00:28] <Unit193> OK.
[00:28] <bluesabre> more people might contribute if we get them on LP
[00:29] <bluesabre> and if we can link them from somewhere obvious... ;)
[00:29] <Unit193> I recommend as the wiki does, [url "git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/"] insteadof = lp:
[00:30] <bluesabre> mhm
[00:30] <bluesabre> good for folks to subscribe to early: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Wily-changes :)
[00:36] <Unit193> lp:~xubuntu-dev/+git/xfdashboard lp:~xubuntu-dev/+git/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin lp:~xubuntu-dev/+git/libmpris2plugin lp:~xubuntu-dev/+git/xfce4-soundmenu-plugin
[00:40] <Unit193> libmpris2client, not plugin.
[00:42] <bluesabre> sweet
[00:46] <bluesabre> successfully cloned
[00:47] <Unit193> Missed hamster.
[00:48] <bluesabre> d:
[00:48] <bluesabre> D;
[00:48] <bluesabre> D:
[00:48] <bluesabre> one of those
[00:48] <bluesabre> instead, http://i.imgur.com/C1dy1de.jpg
[00:48] <Unit193> Hah, silly bluesabre. :P
[00:54] <Unit193> bluesabre: Where do you want to put the pretty links then?
[00:55] <Unit193> I suppose sometime we should ask Corsac, or maintain outside of pkg-xfce...
[01:02] <bluesabre> Unit193: not sure... :\
[01:02] <bluesabre> I think we have a xubuntu development wiki page that might be suitable
[01:04] <Unit193> https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+git/libmpris2client is the format for nice links.
[01:06] <bluesabre> maybe we should create a page off of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/DeveloperDocumentation where we list the projects we look after
[01:07] <Unit193> Could work.
[01:08] <Unit193> Whatever works best for you I guess.
[01:08] <bluesabre> use my wiki.smdavis.us
[01:09] <bluesabre> since we don't currently ship them
[01:09] <Unit193> And just make sure to leave breadcrums.
[01:09] <bluesabre> mhm mhm
[01:26] <Unit193> I think I'm going to need an account and good place to put it.
[01:31] <bluesabre> I can get you one of those
[01:31] <bluesabre> ;)
[01:33] <bluesabre> you probably have an email
[01:34] <Unit193> Awwh, still in Memphis.
[01:35] <bluesabre> you, your email, or my server?
[01:35] <Unit193> I'm, uhh, doing this: https://xkcd.com/281/
[01:36] <bluesabre> ah
[01:36] <bluesabre> never seen that one :D
[01:36] <Unit193> Really?
[01:38] <bluesabre> that comic #281 that is
[01:40] <Unit193> And, all too true.
[01:46] <bluesabre> Unit193: if you get a chance, can you check if lightdm-gtk-greeter trunk handles the alternate config locations as you'd expect? I'm planning on a new release this week, and we could couple it with better config locations/migrations in wiley early on
[01:47] <Unit193> Hrm...
[01:47] <Unit193> And no email yet.
[01:47] <bluesabre> I also think you might have been working with the studio folks about having an easier base?
[01:47] <bluesabre> unit193 at ubuntu ?
[01:47] <Unit193> Yep.
[01:47] <Unit193> And, well.  In a way, yeah.
[01:47]  * bluesabre probably broke mail
[02:10] <Unit193> Oh right, linking may help, https://wiki.smdavis.us/doku.php?id=development:packages basics, not great but has it.
[02:10] <bluesabre> cool
[02:11] <bluesabre> thanks!
[02:11] <Unit193> !info git-buildpackage
[02:11] <Unit193> gbp clone URL
[02:12] <bluesabre> fancy
[02:14] <Unit193> So what's up?
[02:18] <bluesabre> got several of our daily ppas rolling for wily
[02:18] <bluesabre> kicked a door frame
[02:19] <bluesabre> being a baby about it
[02:19] <bluesabre> :D
[02:19] <bluesabre> :'D
[02:19] <Unit193> Haha. :D
[02:21] <bluesabre> waiting for ubuntu wiki to login
[02:21] <Unit193> Paha.
[02:21] <bluesabre> Looks like next meeting is pleia2
[02:22]  * bluesabre looks forward to it
[02:23] <Unit193> Just glad it's not meeee.
[02:28] <bluesabre> linked the packages page from https://wiki.smdavis.us/doku.php?id=development so it should be findable now
[02:29] <Unit193> Also, you have a gtk-greeter test package?
[02:31] <Unit193> Going to poke Mythbuntu, Lubuntu, UbuntuStudio, and UbuntuMate about it?
[02:31] <Unit193> And corsac**
[02:31] <bluesabre> the one in here probably works, https://launchpad.net/~lightdm-gtk-greeter-team/+archive/ubuntu/daily
[02:31] <bluesabre> but haven't tested yet :)
[02:31] <Unit193> Great, thanks.  Will poke in VM.
[02:32] <bluesabre> yeah, will poke when I release, wait for confirmation, then upload
[02:32] <bluesabre> it continues to work with existing config locations as well
[02:36] <Unit193> That did not work exactly.
[02:41] <bluesabre> uh oh
[02:42] <Unit193> Well, with Greybird I got the normal background, Numix gets me white/offwhite background, behind the login and on the panel.  May just be somehow Numix though?
[02:43] <Unit193> Configuration path priority is good though.
[02:45] <bluesabre> might be a theme issue with numix... it doesn't really get any attention these days since they've been porting to sass/building a new distro with not-numix
[02:45] <bluesabre> and might not be
[02:45] <bluesabre> :)
[02:45] <Unit193> :'(
[02:45] <bluesabre> I'll take a look a bit later, thanks for checking it out
[02:45] <Unit193> Nah, it's great.
[02:45] <bluesabre> glad that the path priority is good
[02:47] <Unit193> Testcase is of course comment out the theme in /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf and then place one in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/30-theme.conf, check, then add one in /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/foo.conf, then lastly back in the main config. :P
[02:48] <bluesabre> nice
[02:48] <Unit193> Numix was working with Vivid at least.
[02:48] <bluesabre> probably a new bug
[02:48] <bluesabre> yay greeter
[02:48] <bluesabre> D':
[04:49] <pleia2> I'll try to remember tomorrow to schedule the meeting :)
[05:54] <ochosi> morning folks
[05:54] <ochosi> sorry for being afk for so long, been buried in lots and lots of stuff
[06:05] <ochosi> knome: i guess you're already looking forward to us working on the werewolf artwork..? :)
[06:33] <ochosi> Unit193: hmm, re: core-vivid, i think we settled on making an announcement of our plans for wiley for it
[06:33] <ochosi> along with a note that ppl can already try and use it
[06:34] <Unit193> Ah, alrighty.
[06:34] <ochosi> if you have time to draft that, that'd be cool
[06:34] <Unit193> I can't text. :3
[06:39] <Unit193> And looks like knome is out for a bit.
[06:40] <elfy> time to learn then ;)
[06:41] <ochosi> well i said *draft*, not text ;)
[06:42] <ochosi> if you give somebody else a structure or something to go on, that'd be helpful enough
[06:42] <ochosi> like, put together some info on -core, what it is, how to install, links etc
[06:42] <ochosi> texting can then also be handled by someone else who doesn't necessarily know all the details
[06:42] <elfy> :)
[06:44] <Unit193> Sure, and I can try to be as useful.  Just as always feel free to ask questions that I didn't think of.
[06:45] <ochosi> perfect, lemme know when you got something i can look at
[06:45] <ochosi> elfy: i think i might pick up that xfpm bug we started debugging earlier today
[06:46] <elfy> ok - well I am still where I was, so ask away later if you want to :)
[06:53] <ochosi> elfy: yeah, i think we stopped at you not getting any debug output
[06:54] <elfy> sounds right
[06:56] <ochosi> i guess i'll do a clean install today or tomorrow so i have the same conditions to test with
[06:56] <ochosi> then i can give you better hints as to why there is no output just yet
[06:56] <elfy> I've not got to a clean one yet either
[07:07] <ochosi> oh o
[07:07] <ochosi> k
[09:38] <dkessel> Ooh are there wiley images already?
[11:03] <bluesabre> yay, we're in business http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/wily/xubuntu
[11:13] <ochosi> hey bluesabre
[11:13] <bluesabre> hey ochosi
[11:13] <ochosi> how're things?
[11:13] <bluesabre> good good
[11:14] <bluesabre> you?
[11:15] <ochosi> busy busy, but generally speaking good :)
[11:16] <ochosi> thought i'd take another stab at that xfpm bug i was working on last week
[11:16] <bluesabre> cool
[11:16] <ochosi> hopefully i'll make more progress today (for some reason elfy doesn't see the debug output i put in with g_warnings)
[11:19] <bluesabre> oops
[11:19] <bluesabre> :)
[11:24] <bluesabre> ochosi: got anything fun you'd like to do artwork-wise this cycle?
[11:25] <bluesabre> +knome:)
[11:35] <bluesabre> do we start drafting up blueprints now?
[11:36] <bluesabre> we can probably go ahead and drop gimp/abiword/gnumeric and add libreoffice (we can trim LO down later after some discussion)
[11:37] <bluesabre> and we more interested in tango or sifr as the default LO theme?
[11:37] <ochosi> sorry, was on the phone...
[11:38] <ochosi> yeah, i'd like to make some tweaks to greybird
[11:38] <ochosi> we'll see how that goes
[11:38] <ochosi> also yeah, +1 on the seed updates
[11:38] <ochosi> i haven't tried the sifr theme, i'll check that now
[11:39] <bluesabre> cool
[11:39] <ochosi> i think i used to use humanity or whatever it was called
[11:39] <bluesabre> for those around, Sifr is a monochrome/symbolic icon theme, https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jGQol9dHIZ8/UupQtrHlsBI/AAAAAAAARPI/W_lhTgZEEKA/s1600/libreoffice-4.2-sifr-icons.png
[11:40] <ochosi> oh, sifr is monochrome
[11:40] <ochosi> well, it
[11:40] <ochosi> 's okayish
[11:40] <ochosi> i remember reading about it and pinning more hopes on it
[11:40] <bluesabre> tango, http://i47.tinypic.com/124h2q9.png
[11:41] <ochosi> i'm not convinced anymore that having a totally monochrome toolbar is really the ideal scenario
[11:41] <ochosi> i'm +1 on tango tbh
[11:41] <bluesabre> humanity, https://i.imgur.com/RygseR0.png
[11:41] <ochosi> i once looked into creating an icon theme for LO, it seemed like a lot of work though
[11:41] <bluesabre> yeah
[11:41] <bluesabre> there's also a faenza one that somebody made way back when
[11:41] <ochosi> while humanity is closer to elementary, it's so... orange
[11:42] <ochosi> i guess i could use that as a base and work something out for us for 16.04 if we decide to stick with LO
[11:42] <bluesabre> yeah
[11:42] <ochosi> many icons could be kept, only some would need updating to make it look more integrated
[11:42] <bluesabre> an elementary-style LO?
[11:43] <ochosi> well, just the icons
[11:43] <bluesabre> or maybe its possible to create a "gtk" theme, that pulls from the icon dirs? or is it all resource files?
[11:43] <ochosi> i think it's all LO specific resource crap
[11:43] <bluesabre> boo
[11:43] <ochosi> hundreds of icons, literally
[11:44] <bluesabre> time to get ready for work, would love to see other's ideas on what theme options to go with
[11:44] <ochosi> so we need to make an addon alike the libreoffice-style-humanity package
[11:44] <bluesabre> there's also the default "galaxy", but it looks like kde, so -1
[11:44] <ochosi> yup, as i said, i'd vote for tango
[11:44] <ochosi> all the others have downsides
[11:44] <bluesabre> same here
[11:44] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl
[11:45] <ochosi> galaxy: too kde, humanity: too orange, sifr: too monochrome, tango: ok
[11:45] <ochosi> k, ttyl bluesabre
[13:07] <ochosi> bluesabre: so while the libreoffice icon stuff seems like a lot of work, could we do a package for xubuntu-only for the moment without having to go through the hassle of submitting it upstream, then let debian pick it up and finally get it synced to ubuntu..? maybe you could take a peek at the other icon themes and i can set up a repo from which we can generate the needed zip file and then a package...
[20:54] <ochosi> any opinions on the LO icon theme sean mentioned earlier?
[20:55] <elfy> oh d'oh
[20:55] <elfy> meant to comment
[20:56] <slickymaster> I don't like sifr ochosi
[20:56] <slickymaster> my opinion is similar to yours, too monochromatic
[20:56] <elfy> I have sifr - don't like it much
[20:56] <ochosi> lderan: btw, did you work out something with bluesabre wrt contributing code-wise?
[20:56] <elfy> but I'd rather have that than the in your face other ones
[20:56] <Unit193> ochosi: That's going to stink unless you get in contact with LibreOffice maintainers for Ubuntu.
[20:56] <lderan> ochosi, not yet
[20:57] <ochosi> Unit193: right, i guess if somebody else takes care of the upstreaming, i could see myself submitting a libreoffice-style-elementary source
[21:17] <ochosi> lderan: anyway if you wanna discuss anything lemme know
[21:17] <ochosi> i'll be around for another hour approx
[21:17] <Unit193> Hah, great.  Was about to ask.
[21:22] <Unit193> ochosi: Here is my poor attempt at writing: https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/docs/core.html
[21:23] <Unit193> I'm not attached to any of it, so any changes are a-ok.
[21:24] <Unit193> Well, I am to the idea that we want people to install the task and not the meta, but otherwise. :P
[21:24] <elfy> why is it there and not draft at x.org?
[21:25] <Unit193> Because I like vim/nano better than firefox?
[21:25] <elfy> lol
[21:25] <ochosi> right, but then someone else will have to convert it, so booo :)
[21:26] <Unit193> elfy: Needed to get base content, then worry about formatting later.  This way I know I'm not going to get frustrated and quit. :P
[21:26] <elfy> ha ha ha
[21:26] <ochosi> :)
[21:27] <Unit193> So any content comments rather than location? :P
[21:27]  * elfy is reminded to finish the QA recap
[21:27] <ochosi> Unit193: it's definitely a good start! i like it
[21:27] <elfy> Unit193: content seems ok - just you're like me - and tech rather than flim flam :D
[21:27] <ochosi> hehe
[21:28] <ochosi> yeah, a bit of intro won't hurt though
[21:28] <Unit193> I gave an intro.
[21:28] <elfy> maybe split the task from the less recommended
[21:28] <lderan> ochosi, sure :) what can i do to help
[21:28] <ochosi> lderan: well, first of all, what would you like to help with? i mean code, yeah, but what language, any particular fields you wanna contribute to?
[21:28] <elfy> anyway - preferring sleep to wake currently - night all :)
[21:28] <ochosi> night elfy :)
[21:29] <Unit193> elfy: G'nighty!
[21:29] <lderan> night elfy :)
[21:29] <lderan> ochosi, mmm good question. I can do a bit of python and c++ if that is of any use. would like to get a better grip of both of those langauges. My days are spent toiling with html :P
[21:30] <ochosi> lderan: right, most of xfce is C, only whiskermenu is C++, so i guess python it is
[21:30] <ochosi> unless you wanna write something from scratch in c++ or learn some c
[21:30] <lderan> dont mind C, have caused my server to crash with it before :P
[21:31] <ochosi> right :)
[21:31] <ochosi> with C, you have lots and lots of options
[21:31] <ochosi> other than language, anything you use a lot and wanna work on?
[21:31] <ochosi> or anything you particularly like
[21:32] <lderan> text editor and music players is what i am generally using
[21:33] <ochosi> k, so what, mousepad and parole/gmusicbrowser/something-else?
[21:33] <Unit193> gmb is perl.
[21:33] <ochosi> yeah, i'm just asking, i know it's perl ;)
[21:34] <lderan> at the moment its mousepad and clementine
[21:34] <ochosi> clementine is qt, so for us that's a no-go
[21:34] <ochosi> mousepad is already ported to gtk3 and generally okayishly maintained, ofc you could contribute some bugfixes if you'd like
[21:35] <lderan> shall take a look at it
[21:37] <ochosi> personally i think it's important that you like/use what you wanna contribute to, otherwise you might quickly lose motivation
[21:37] <ochosi> but ofc you can generally contribute to anything
[21:37] <lderan> i try most applications for a bit, sure i will be using a different music player in short order :P
[21:40] <lderan> don't mind taking a look at something that needs more attention tho :)
[21:45] <ochosi> k :)
[21:46] <ochosi> Unit193: i put your draft up on x.org and modded it a bit, please read and feed back: http://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=3146
[21:46] <ochosi> also, please correct the Core vs. core in any way you see fit
[21:46] <Unit193> Alright.
[21:47] <Unit193> Currently locked.
[21:47] <ochosi> it looks a bit naked now and wall of texty (even though it's fairly brief), maybe we can come up with some way to spice it up
[21:47] <ochosi> hum, still?
[21:47] <ochosi> i moved away from that page when i pinged you, odd...
[21:51] <Unit193> Slight formatting/correcting.
[21:56] <ochosi> just out of curiosity, why is "xubuntu minimal installation" task italic and the "Xubuntu core task" not?
[21:57] <Unit193> Because that's exactly what you'd see in the tasksel screen.
[21:57] <ochosi> ok
[21:58] <Unit193> Not sure if I touched enough on tasks vs metas?
[21:59] <ochosi> i guess more explanation can't hurt, really
[22:09] <Unit193> bluesabre: https://tracker.debian.org/news/682532
[22:23] <ochosi> Unit193: so no more details on tasks vs metas?
[22:23] <ochosi> if there's some external docs on that subject that you can/want to link to, that would also do
[22:23] <Unit193> I would, but words and effort.
[22:23] <ochosi> links are ok too
[22:37] <ochosi> Unit193: ok, moved the first two paragraphs around a bit, from my pov it's a go
[22:38] <ochosi> but if you want more ppl to read/review, feel free to ping around before hitting publish
[22:38] <Unit193> I'm pretty sure I can't publish, not in website.
[22:40] <ochosi> i thought if you can edit, you can publish
[22:40] <ochosi> either way, in that case lemme know when you want me to hit it
[22:41] <ochosi> i'm off for now, nighty all!


[13:41] <troyh> I just upgraded to 12.04.2 and moved from 0.25 to 0.26 and now mythfrontend hangs on startup (can only be killed with a SIGKILL) displaying only the background on my two frontend boxes. However, the frontend starts and runs correctly on the frontend/backend system. Anyone have any suggestions?
[13:42] <DaveInTO> morniing
[13:46] <rhpot1991> troyh: I've seen similar where it is waiting for you to setup
[13:46] <rhpot1991> kill -9 all mythfrontends then go start a new one
[13:46] <rhpot1991> see if that helps
[13:46] <troyh> rhpot1991: Oh, I've tried to kill it and start it several times :-)
[13:47] <rhpot1991> troyh: check your backend logs, make sure everything is good there
[13:47] <rhpot1991> when I had a similar issue I had messages about a pending db upgrade
[13:48] <troyh> the frontend does run on the backend box and everything is playing and recording correctly there. I just can't get the remote frontends to start
[13:49] <troyh> nothing jumps out as an issue in the mythbackend.log
[13:57] <rhpot1991> troyh: make sure your settings didn't revert back to <IP_ADDRESS> as the IP for the backend
[13:58] <troyh> I should also mentioned, I tried moving my .mythtv directory out of the way on the frontend and starting mythfrontend with the -d and the -p options so I don't think it is even getting far enough to start talking to the backend.
[14:02] <troyh> Oh, this is interesting, so I was fighting this for hours last night trying to figure out what was going on. When I gave up I left one of the frontends in the "hung" state. However, it must have eventually connected because when I looked just now it was fine. However, I exited and tried to start it again and it hangs again. I must take over 45 minutes before it eventually starts.
[14:19] <rhpot1991> troyh: anything useful in that frontend's logs?
[14:21] <troyh> rhpot1991: not that I can see! I went over them several times. I also started it under strace and many of the threads are sitting on a futex. There are so many thread and I don't know the code at all so I couldn't make much out the backtraces when connecting to the running process with gdb other than it seems to be blocked waithing for some resource but I have no idea what that resource is.
[17:04] <troyh> How do you completely purge myth from a mythbuntu frontend and reinstall clean with NO left over configuration? I tried to purge mythtv-common mythtv-frontend mythtv-status libmyth-0.26-0 libmyth-python libmythtv-perl remove /etc/mythtv and removed the .mythtv dir in the primary user home directory but that doesn't seem to be enough. After I reinstall and start the frontend it still hangs but it is using the mythcenter theme that I use but I don't think
[17:04] <troyh> that is the default so I must have missed some confiuration somewhere.
[17:05] <DaveInTO> purge mysql also?
[17:05] <DaveInTO> delete the user also?
[17:05] <troyh> DaveInTO: Ahh, no I didn't I din't realize there was a localdb on the frontend boxes
[17:06] <DaveInTO> ah..sorry..didn't read the front end part
[17:06] <troyh> hrm, yeah do mysql server
[17:07] <troyh> My dedicated frontends are hosed and I'm tying to get them back to functional. Not sure what the best way to purge everything is to start fresh, short of a fresh install
[17:08] <DaveInTO> yeah...no idea..i've switched my dedicated front ends to xmbc
[17:09] <troyh> xbmc from the mythbuntu repo's?
[17:09] <DaveInTO> no...i picked up a xios ds
[17:09] <DaveInTO> and using that
[17:09] <DaveInTO> couldn't find a box small enough and cheap enough to do myth fe
[17:10] <DaveInTO> so picked up http://www.pivosgroup.com/xios.html
[17:10] <DaveInTO> and using that as my myth front end on 2 of my 3 boxes..probably going to switch the 3rd box to that soon also
[17:10] <troyh> just a stock mythtv backend?
[17:10] <DaveInTO> troyh: yeah
[17:11] <DaveInTO> xbmc 12+ works great with myth
[17:12] <troyh> hrm only $110...
[17:12] <DaveInTO> recordings/videos.. only issue i ran into was my xbmc box is on a different floor then my myth box..and the wifi wasn't quick enough to handle the 5.1 HDTV OTA recordings
[17:12] <tgm4883> troyh, frontend configuration is stored in the database
[17:12] <DaveInTO> so i setup mythexport + handbrake to generate 720p stereo exports of the recordings that i might want to watch on that box
[17:13] <troyh> tgm4883 I don't think I'm getting far enough for the fronend to be actually talking with the backenddb
[17:13] <troyh> it hangs on startup only showing the background and doesn't get to the menu.
[17:13] <troyh> s/it/frontend/
[17:14] <tgm4883> troyh, if it's not asking your for db credentials, it's probably far enough to talk to the db
[17:14] <troyh> DaveInTO: it has a physical NIC port an I have ethernet so the wireless would be an issue
[17:14] <DaveInTO> troyh: yeah...i bought 50 feet of cable
[17:14] <DaveInTO> and some wall jacks
[17:15] <DaveInTO> just have to get the courage to start putting holes in the wall and running cable between floors
[17:15] <troyh> tgm4883: yeah, even when i pass the -p and -d options it still hangs before I get to enter the db info
[17:15] <DaveInTO> the xiosds has android + xbmc app (sucks ass slow)
[17:15] <Zinn> DaveInTO: Please watch your language.
[17:15] <DaveInTO> but xbmc people put out a linux firmware build for it supported by pivos
[17:16] <troyh> DaveInTO: where do you find this build?
[17:19] <tgm4883> troyh, I didn't think mythfrontend took -p and -d options
[17:19] <troyh> tgm4883: it doesn't act like it does :-) but according to mythfronend --help it should
[17:19] <tgm4883> y
[17:20] <tgm4883> troyh, when did this start? has it ever worked?
[17:22] <troyh> tgm4883: yes, everying has been working fine for the last two+ years. Yesterday I did a upgrade to 12.04.2 AND to from 0.25 to 0.26 at the same time. After the upgrade both of my frontend only boxes will not star the frontend. However, on the fronend/backed box everything works fine. I just installed the frontend on my Debian laptop and it works as well.
[17:26] <tgm4883> troyh, have you tried changing the theme and/or themepainter?
[17:27] <troyh> tgm4883: how? I have tried purgeing all of the packages, and removing /etc/myttv plus everything in the user home dir that could be related
[17:28] <tgm4883> troyh, you can set those at the command line
[17:28] <tgm4883> sec
[17:28] <troyh> oh, -r
[17:28]  * troyh tries
[17:29] <troyh> didn't help, still hangs
[17:29] <tgm4883> try 'mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=opengl'
[17:32] <troyh> tgm4883: same result
[17:33] <tgm4883> troyh, what do the frontend logs say if you set them to debug?
[17:35] <DaveInTO> troyh: in the pivos forumss
[17:35] <DaveInTO> one sec
[17:35] <DaveInTO> http://www.pivosforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2031&sid=79d6f0d51f35592c93fee77ab414e613&start=990#p30118
[17:35] <DaveInTO> that thread
[17:35] <DaveInTO> Toys4Me and Speedster have both created builds
[17:36] <troyh> tgm4883: http://pastebin.com/b8tt6vbm
[17:37] <tgm4883> troyh, I don't see much. Try this
[17:38] <tgm4883> try 'mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt -O Theme=terra'
[17:40] <tgm4883> troyh, also, as I always do, I suggest upgrading to +fixes
[17:43] <troyh> tgm4883: still hung. how do you enable +fixes? I though the mythbuntu-repos package was deprecated in favor of the GUI selection in mythbuntu-control-center
[17:44] <troyh> The version of mythtv-frontend that I have installed is 2:0.26.0+fixes.20130419.0af65f7-0ubuntu0mythbuntu1
[17:45] <tgm4883> troyh, yep, thats the lastest version. Not sure why I thought 0.26.1 was out
[17:45] <tgm4883> troyh, you might pop over to #mythtv-users and ask there
[17:46] <DaveInTO> also on their site is the pivosgroup official firmware..its just 2 months old
[17:46] <troyh> tgm4883: thanks!
[17:47] <troyh> DaveInTO: I just grabbed a xios and threw on overnight delivery so maybe that will be up and running before I figure out this problem, thanks for the pointer!
[17:57] <DaveInTO> Np..i've had it for a week
[17:57] <DaveInTO> so far so good
[17:57] <DaveInTO> make sure you have a microSD card
[17:58] <DaveInTO> you need that to be able to do firmware upgrades
[17:58] <DaveInTO> also works well for storing fan art with the Toys4Me build
[17:58] <troyh> ahh, don't have an extra microSD!
[17:59] <DaveInTO> well as long as you have one you can get it working with the new firmware
[17:59] <DaveInTO> use the one you have...copy the firmware on it..install it..then put the card back where it belongs
[17:59] <troyh> never hurts to have a spare :-)
[18:00] <DaveInTO> yeah...good to have on always in the xios..just for storage of data that xbmc likes
[18:00] <DaveInTO> eg apps and skins and fanart


[09:35] <Industrial> I changed the default windowmanager of Unity2d to compiz instead of metacity, so that I can easily use compiz settings for keybinds and use the Scale and desktop wall plugins.
[09:35] <Industrial> This also enabled the mouse screen corner functionality again for me (it didnt work in unity)
[09:35] <Industrial> But there's one thing I can't seem to change; The keybindings for the bar on the left.
[09:36] <Industrial> I'd like to remove the win + 1/2/3/4/s/t keybinds, is that possible?
[09:36] <Industrial> I prefer to use those for switching to a workspace (and + shift for moving a window)
[13:33] <jo-erlend> You currently have to log out and back in for changes to lenses to take affect. Is that intentional, or can we expect that do be updated dynamically in 12.04?
[13:34] <jo-erlend> doesn't seem too user friendly to me.


[21:57] <cristian_c> jsalisbury: hi
[22:00] <wxl> i have been contacted by someone who's coming out with some new ppc64 hardware and needs to get support for it in Ubuntu because it's Book-E and not Book-S, thus it requires an alternative kernel. is there anyone readily familiar with ppc64 that i can send to him as a contact?
[22:06] <apw> wxl, don't we have a book-e flavour already?  but do feel free to put them in touch with me and we can find someone to help
[22:06] <wxl> apw: sounds good. irc or email preferable for you
[22:06] <wxl> ?
[22:08] <cycliam> Hi, I have this: http://pastebin.com/uQu95qSd. The only hit for the error message on Google is a link to another pastebin made 6 days ago. Any pointers?
[22:09] <cristian_c> jsalisbury: hi


[07:31] <didrocks> good morning
[08:19] <jibel> Salut didrocks
[08:24] <didrocks> salut jibel, ça va ?
[08:29] <jibel> didrocks, Ça va bien et toi?
[08:29] <didrocks> ça va, le temps alterne entre beau et mauvais :p
[09:03] <Laney> yo
[09:05] <didrocks> hey hey Laney
[09:06] <Laney> hey didrocks, are you well? nice weekend?
[09:06] <Trevinho> Ya!
[09:08] <didrocks> Laney: Was a good week-end, indeed, between 2 rain drops! How about you?
[09:08] <didrocks> hey Trevinho
[09:08] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[09:11] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[09:11] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[09:18] <Trevinho> didrocks: hey! :-)
[09:19] <oSoMoN> hi Trevinho, Laney
[09:25] <Laney> didrocks: good, went out for some drinks with some new friends
[09:25] <Laney> also had "beef aorta", but let's not talk about that ...
[09:25] <Laney> hey Trevinho oSoMoN
[09:26] <didrocks> let's not talk about the beef thus ;)
[10:14] <Trevinho> Laney: so lampredotto is better I guess :-P
[10:14] <Laney> yes
[10:15] <Trevinho> 💃
[10:15] <Laney> that was physically edible
[10:15] <Trevinho> ahahah
[11:01] <mitya57> Trevinho: hi! Did you see my question about compiz? https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/02/09/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t12:46
[11:23]  * Laney the fixer of tests
[12:37] <Trevinho> mitya57: ah, yeah... I saw, let me start that
[12:37] <mitya57> thanks!
[12:37] <Trevinho> mitya57: have you already a branch?
[12:38] <mitya57> I have it locally, I can try to push it somewhere.
[12:38] <Trevinho> mitya57: you can push it in compiz itself, although the time I did I think I had a patched bzr importer to add some references
[12:38] <Trevinho> so let me retry that
[12:39] <mitya57> That should be better, I just used plain `git clone bzr::lp:compiz`.
[12:39] <mitya57> Anyway here is what I got: https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/compiz/+git/compiz
[12:41] <Laney> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/tracker/commit/63c0a5d4413e53cb76089fda6f56b2d623c5de15
[12:42] <Laney> andyrock you BEAST
[12:43]  * Laney enjoys it when he doesn't have to do work
[16:27] <jibel> which snaps are installed by default on bionic?
[16:33] <Laney> jibel: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.bionic/desktop.snaps
[16:42] <jibel> thanks, I was surprised to see just some of them but it was obviously their installation that was slower than it uses to be
[17:09] <jbicha> Laney: what do you suggest we do with https://github.com/ruby-gnome2/ruby-gnome2/issues/1272 ? it's probably pretty easy to rewrite the upstream test so that it passes
[17:09] <gitbot> ruby-gnome2 issue 1272 in ruby-gnome2 "test failures with glib 2.59.2" [Open]
[17:10] <Laney> Fixing the test sounds sensible
[17:10] <jbicha> but I'm unsure how to do it so that it is um elegant
[17:10] <Laney> regex?
[17:11] <jbicha> I've not worked with Ruby or Ruby tests before so this will be interesting
[17:12] <Laney> me neither really, except I think I once fixed a test in that thing too
[17:12] <jbicha> yeah I saw your name in the commit log
[17:15] <Laney> Presumably the glib_{major,minor} version constants are exposed too
[17:28] <jbicha> jibel: does today's simple-scan/disco upload fix your crash issue?
[17:47] <k_alam> jbicha: Hi, please increase the importance of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1815493
[18:07] <jibel> jbicha, I didn't try
[18:36] <k_alam> jbicha: Thanks
[20:37] <jibel> jbicha, latest version of simple-scan in disco fixes the crash, thanks.
[21:50] <fossfreedom> hi all - just checked todays Ubuntu Budgie iso and for some reason it is pulling in gdm3 as a default.  Any ideas why?  Nothing that I've done!
[21:50] <fossfreedom> ... 19.04 that is
[22:02] <jbicha> jibel: speaking of ISOs, do you know why http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/pending/ increased from 1.6G to 1.9G?
[22:07] <jbicha> fossfreedom: I believe I triggered that with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/1.8.18-2ubuntu4 or https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/1:19.04.3
[22:08] <jbicha> so I'll take a look
[22:10] <fossfreedom> ah - thx.  does that network-manager-gnome changelog mean that UB should seed policykit-1-gnome to stop gnome-shell being pulled in?
[22:10] <jbicha> no, you shouldn't need it
[22:11] <jbicha> (read the package description for policykit-1-gnome, if it's wrong, let Debian know)
[22:15] <jbicha> fossfreedom: can I change my answer to yes? :)
[22:15] <jbicha> $ apt-cache showpkg polkit-1-auth-agent
[22:16] <jbicha> Budgie doesnt' provide that virtual package so it needs to either provide it or yes you need policykit-1-gnome
[22:16] <fossfreedom> ok - thx
[22:17] <jbicha> so try uninstalling everything that provides that polkit package and see if you still get the authentication popups when you do polkit stuff
[22:18] <jbicha> I'm glad that the answer here is pretty simple, sometimes dealing with these alternate dependencies gets messy
[22:22] <jbicha> fossfreedom: you might have the same problem with notification-daemon. For instance, I have a libnotify upload stuck in disco-proposed
[22:23] <jbicha> sorry for the inconvenience. I had been looking at ISOs this weekend to see if gnome-shell popped up unexpectedly but I hadn't checked today yet
[22:24] <fossfreedom> no worries - thx for the advice will have a play now that I know what to look out for
[22:24] <jbicha> Seb tried demoting notification-daemon to universe in cosmic so I'm just finishing the job :)


[06:34] <NontonJe> i have p4 , 2 G ram. is it enough to install ubuntu 10.10 ?
[06:35] <Tm_T> NontonJe: although this is not that kind of support channel, yes
[06:37] <NontonJe> oh, sorry. any idea what channel is suitable ?
[06:37] <Tm_T> #ubuntu
[06:37] <NontonJe> thanks
[06:37] <Tm_T> no problem (:
[12:41] <lalitha> hai
[12:41] <bazhang> hi
[12:43] <lalitha> ya...
[12:46] <lalitha> can u plz tell me how do we connect linux chat server using chat client on windows?
[12:46] <bazhang> try ##windows perhaps
[12:48] <lalitha> but i have to use chat server on linux...
[12:50] <lalitha> can u tell me what are the settings we have to do in linux chat server ?
[12:50] <bazhang> linux chat server?
[12:51] <lalitha> yes..
[12:53] <lalitha> I have installed ircd-irc2 on ubuntu and i change some settings in conf file but i dont know how to proceed with client
[12:55] <lalitha> plz can anybody help me?
[12:55] <Pici> lalitha: This channel is for coordiation of ubuntu channel operators on freenode.  Our support channel is #ubuntu
[12:55] <tsimpson> we can't help you setting up your own chat server
[12:56] <Pici> lalitha: Although finding specific support elsewhere for ircd-irc2 would probably be best.
[12:58] <lalitha> ok thank you..


[00:08] <mcgrof> crimsun: try again
[00:08] <mcgrof> crimsun: what link are you using
[00:14] <crimsun> the link from Users > Download > compat-wireless-2.6 > wireless.kernel.org ... /download/compat-wireless-2.6/
[00:17] <crimsun> (still shows 2009-12-11)
[02:58] <ralsheb> im trying to compile/install an older vanilla kernel from kernel.org, one which ubuntu never used, im having problems compiling it and thking its because i need kernel headers that match the version im compiling, any idea where i can find these??
[02:59] <AceLan> ralsheb: what's the error message?
[03:00] <AceLan> ralsheb: paste the error message here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:31] <^arky^>  Is there meta bug for CE: hpet increasing min_delta_ns to 15000 nsec
[13:31] <^arky^>  kernel errors in lucid
[15:03] <slytherin> Can anyone from kernel team please sponsor the debdiff attached to bug 506546
[18:44] <maxb> Hi, how does a KMS graphics driver decide what mode to set?
[18:45] <maxb> My i915-based lucid system has suddenly started to set a mode with fewer rows and columns
[19:56] <Kano> hi, you know that <IP_ADDRESS> (not 2) is out and <IP_ADDRESS> (not 9)?
[21:10] <gnomefreak> does the kernel control TTYs?
[21:25] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak - what aspect of them?
[21:26] <chrisccoulson> (although i might not be able to answer your question anyway) ;)
[21:26] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: they are not usable at all.
[21:27] <chrisccoulson> i've seen someone else mention that
[21:27] <gnomefreak> there is not login screen just a black screen with some white lines across the top
[21:27]  * gnomefreak wanted to file a bug just not sure what package
[21:27] <dhillon-v10> gnomefreak, you can go ahead and use the linux package to file the bug against
[21:28] <gnomefreak> dhillon-v10: linux-image...?
[21:29] <dhillon-v10> gnomefreak, nope only linux, let me show you an example bug :)
[21:29] <gnomefreak> k
[21:30] <dhillon-v10> gnomefreak, check for example here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/354705 the bug is filed against the linux(ubuntu) package
[21:31] <gnomefreak> thanks
[21:33] <dhillon-v10> gnomefreak, np
[21:47] <gnomefreak> dhillon-v10: thanks its filed
[21:48] <dhillon-v10> gnomefreak, great :) now let's get fixing it
[21:48] <gnomefreak> anything i can do let me know
[23:38] <blizzkid> hi all. Was just thinking, how hard would it be for a good devver to create a tool that takes the generic kernel config and strips out the hardware support not needed for a specific machine?
[23:39] <blizzkid> That would build a semi-custom kernel adapted to one's hardare and keep in the needed other modules
[23:44] <bluesscream> If you have a 2.6.32 installed and you want to compile i.e 2.6.33-rc4 just run make localmodconfig


[13:12] <ahasenack> hi, launchpad is giving me timeout oopses when I try to import a new gpg key, fyi
[13:12] <ahasenack> OOPS-da93d7a541fb8951f88025a017bde61e
[13:12] <ubot5`> https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-da93d7a541fb8951f88025a017bde61e
[13:14] <ahasenack> and it logs me out after that, funny
[13:14] <ahasenack> or rather, requests my creds again
[13:18] <cjwatson> creds are expected, that's a patch that forces fresh login
[13:19] <cjwatson> Yeah, we've had a couple of reports of the timeouts but the current oopses aren't enough to narrow it down
[13:19] <cjwatson> I've proposed https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/gpg-timeline/+merge/340554 to try to get more information
[13:19] <cjwatson> it's bug 1753019
[13:19] <ubot5`> bug 1753019 in Launchpad itself "Cannot import gpg key - Timeout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753019