[19:47] <astrostl> i have a hung dpkg process on a 10.04 LTS server: /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 23 --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/apt/archives/augeas-lenses_0.7.0-1ubuntu1_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libopenssl-ruby1.8_<IP_ADDRESS>-2_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/facter_1.5.6-2ubuntu2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libreadline-ruby1.8_<IP_ADDRESS>-2_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/irb1.8_<IP_ADDRESS>-2_all.
[19:47] <astrostl> deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libaugeas0_0.7.0-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libaugeas-ruby1.8_0.2.0-2ubuntu3_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libopenssl-ruby_4.2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libruby_4.2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libshadow-ruby1.8_1.4.1-8build1_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libxmlrpc-ruby_4.2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/puppet-common_0.25.4-2ubuntu6_al
[19:47] <astrostl> l.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/puppet_0.25.4-2ubuntu6_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/rdoc1.8_<IP_ADDRESS>-2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/rdoc_4.2_all.deb
[19:47] <bastidrazor> teddyb: that is why 'extended' partitions exist. 4 primary is never enough
[19:47] <FloodBot2> astrostl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:47] <astrostl> blah, didn't mean to multi-line it there - sorry.
[19:47] <schnuffle> kaie: the problem is that its locked http://maketecheasier.com/unlock-gnome-panel-in-ubuntu-netbook-edition-une/2010/04/25
[19:47] <soreau> ActionParsnip: ''source <script>'' or ''. <script>'' reads and executes the commands from <script> into the current shell, only one script per invocation the rest is passed as arguments to it
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Kaie: run the app. Once it is on the bar, rightclick it and select to keep it there
[19:47] <astrostl> this process cannot be kill -9d.  i removed the lockfile and tried the command again (apt-get -y install puppet) and yielded the same, unkillable process.  so now i've got two.  any suggestions?
[19:48] <BluesKaj> kallisti5,  "<kallisti5> BluesKaj: maybe make network-manager start later in boot?" I was talking about a method to set the router IP connection permanently
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Soreau: gotcha
[19:48] <astrostl> when i strace the pid it's not doing anything
[19:48] <teddyb> bastidrazor yep found out 4 is not enough today ;)
[19:48] <kaie> ActionParsnip, I did exactly that, but there is no "keep". I saw a "keep" when I added thunderbird, but for gscan2pdf, no "keep" is offered, only "close"
[19:48] <linux_noob> i downloaded the manual for busybox which is the shell on my fone. but i need a broader context than actual command line.
[19:49] <BluesKaj> kallisti5, sorr to have misunderstood your question , if that's what you mean.
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Kaie: weird is there a bug logged?
[19:49] <kaie> schnuffle, that article is about 10.04, but the 10.10 edition looks completely different.
[19:49] <kaie> ActionParsnip, not yet, because until now I had assumed maybe it's my fault, and I'm doing something wrong. If it must be there, I can file a bug.
[19:52] <kallisti5> BluesKaj: what i ment was move the /etc/rcx.d/S20network-interface to /etc/rcx.d/S60network-interface
[19:52] <kallisti5> BluesKaj: thanks for the help though
[19:52] <schnuffle> kaie: I've 10.10 right in front of me and got really mad about adding something to the panel, I ended up switching back to standard gnome
[19:53] <mohadib__> hello
[19:53] <BluesKaj> kallisti5, well you're welcome , if it helped :)
[19:53] <schnuffle> kaie: i'll try to find the correct link
[19:53] <mohadib__> is there a tool to make an installable cd from an existin install?
[19:53] <kaie> schnuffle, thank you, much appreciated
[19:53] <teddyb> actionparsnip, bastidrazor i see what i think is the right entry in fstab its just the uuid is different from the one gparted is reporting, do i change that?
[19:53] <kaie> ubuntu-bug unity
[19:53] <kaie> schnuffle, found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity - it suggests to use above command to file a bug
[19:54] <schnuffle> kaie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuNetbookEdition/ConvertGnomeSession
[19:55] <bastidrazor> teddyb: if you changed your partitions then the UUID has changed
[19:55] <pierce> so, my flashplugin randomly killed itself again.  flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer are both installed, but neither contain the .so I need.  I also have the adobe repo added, but it doesn't seem to contain anything useful either.  What is the recommended way to install flash in ubuntu these days? (im on 64 bit if that still matters)
[19:56] <teddyb> bastidrazor, ok, im assuming itll need a reboot
[19:57] <Dakrav> in terminal, how do i get to Ted\Python directory?
[19:57] <bastidrazor> teddyb: no, you can do a: sudo mount -a  in terminal to test and mount things in /etc/fstab
[19:57] <BluesKaj> pierce, flashplugin-nonfree should be replaced by the flashplugin-installer version since 9.10
[19:58] <pierce> BluesKaj: there are no binaries in flashplugin-installer, what does it even do?
[19:59] <pareLi> how do i make weechat start up at startup?
[19:59] <xangua> pierce: it downloads and installs flashplayer
[19:59] <BluesKaj> it draws the plugin down from the repos when you install it
[19:59] <Starminn> pareLi: See if you can do it in System->Preferences->Startup Applications
[19:59] <xangua> there is no such thing as adobe repository pierce
[19:59] <jeditransistor> hi
[19:59] <Guest82061> hello, does anyone know the channel for FOG (imaging software)?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> pierce, it draws the plugin down from the repos when you install it
[20:00] <jeditransistor> quit
[20:01] <Dakrav> how do i get to the directory Ted\Python in terminal?
[20:01] <ardnassac> 22
[20:02] <pierce> BluesKaj:  I apt-get purge flashplugin-installer   then apt-get installed it again, and it look like that worked, but nothing is in about:plugins
[20:02] <Pici> Dakrav: cd Ted\Python?
[20:02] <teddyb> bastidrazor: ok its giving me mount point 0 does not exist still, am i doing something wrong mabey
[20:02] <tobias_> Hi I got a problem with my java it wont run under the Firefox 4 Brta
[20:03] <tobias_> Beta*
[20:03] <Dakrav> Pici: thanks
[20:03] <BluesKaj> pierce, which browser?
[20:03] <kieppie> hi guys. anyone here very familiar with rsync? I'm trying to make an compressed archive of a remote location, * curious if rsync can do this on the fly. using: `rsync -varz --progress user@host:/path archive.tgz`
[20:03] <botcity> soreau: i removed realplayer a while ago. it was not pretty because there was no installer with it i followed some tutorials online and it sorted my problem but i must still have it in my path!
[20:03] <nishttal2> if I have 2 identical ubuntu machines and I want to keep a particular folder in sync always what are my options .. rsync?
[20:03] <pierce> BluesKaj:  firefox now, just standard firefox from 10.10
[20:03] <pierce> BluesKaj: also chromium can't see it either though
[20:04] <Louis-DK> Hi. I'm trying to upgrade an Ubuntu 11.04 using "sudo apt-get upgrade" Do you want to continue [Y/n]?  Extracting templates from packages: 100% Preconfiguring packages ... warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 15183 package 'ibus-pinyin-db-open-phrase':  error in Version string '1/lib/modules/2.6.38-2-generic/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_transport_fc.ko': invalid character in version number warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg
[20:04] <Pici> Louis-DK: Please use #ubuntu+1 for 11.04 support.
[20:04] <kieppie> nishttal2: yea. that's your best bet
[20:04] <cheater00> hi
[20:05] <nishttal2> kieppie, can rsync run every second?
[20:05] <BluesKaj>     File: libflashplayer.s Version:  Shockwave Flash 10.2 r152
[20:05] <nishttal2> kieppie, i mean does that even make sense
[20:05] <kieppie> nishttal2: you can run is as a background service/daemon, yes
[20:05] <kieppie> nishttal2: looking into that now myself
[20:05] <cheater00> in top, the %cpu column, is that per core (meaning if i have two cores it goes up to 200%) or total (meaning it will only ever go up to 100%)?
[20:05] <nishttal2> kieppie, ok great thanks
[20:06] <kieppie> nishttal2: np
[20:06] <BluesKaj> pierce, FF here as well :  File: libflashplayer.s Version:  Shockwave Flash 10.2 r152 then application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash right at the bottom of the page
[20:07] <marc_> hmm i created a dd image of 22gb of 120gb.. it wont mount and i think its because there is no end point marked can it be marked?
[20:08] <atod> anyone have a nas storage device yet?  i'm thinking it's time to pickup a netgear nas duo it supports nfs
[20:08] <lakatos> How do I join another channel?
[20:08] <atod> type slash join
[20:08] <lakatos> thanks
[20:08] <botcity> cheater00:  i think your after htop
[20:09] <pierce> BluesKaj:  rm /usr/lib/libflashplayer.so   fixed it  no idea how that got there :-/  flash was working yesterday, and randomly stopped this morning
[20:09] <pierce> BluesKaj: thanks
[20:10] <genii-around> marc_: Did the dd process fail because of hd errors, or was it interrupted and then just truncated the file?
[20:10] <Minty> where can i change colours from 16 bit to  32 bit
[20:11] <BluesKaj> pierce, one couldn't install flashplugin-nonfree afaik after 9.10 , so how you managed to do so is mystery to me :)
[20:11] <botcity> Minty: i think you mean 24bit!
[20:11] <marc_> genii-around: it was deliberate as most of the partition was blank
[20:11] <m0ra1> how do you connect to a computer through port 80? is there a terminal command or something i need?
[20:11] <Minty> botcity: i don't know what i mean - but how do i do it anyway?
[20:11] <jrib> m0ra1: use your web browser
[20:11] <sacarlson> m0ra1: your browser
[20:12] <tobias_> window close 2
[20:12] <marc_> genii-around: used command with the count option
[20:12] <pierce> BluesKaj: it still works fine for me, just using apt-get, and has typically been the way I install flash on new systems   should I be installing the flashplugin-installer package instead?
[20:12] <m0ra1> when i use web browser is doesn't work.. but i know my port 80 is open
[20:12] <jrib> m0ra1: what do you have running on port 80?
[20:12] <genii-around> marc_: Might sound odd... but I would install ddrescue, then make a ddrescue image using the old broken file from dd as the input file
[20:13] <botcity> Minty: what is the problem
[20:13] <jabirali> m0ra1: If you don't like browsers, you can telnet to port 80. In order to do anything sane though, you would have to enter HTTP commands manually.
[20:13] <m0ra1> my other computer is has port 80 open and i want to connect to it and i have my telnet and ssh ports shut off
[20:13] <genii-around> marc_: Then to try mounting that instead
[20:13] <jrib> m0ra1: what do you have running on port 80?
[20:13] <BluesKaj> pierce, in a word yes , if you nare using an OS newer than ubuntu 9.10
[20:13] <marc_> genii-around: so that would set an end point on the img file
[20:13] <jabirali> m0ra1: You could also use nmap to double check what ports are open.
[20:13] <genii-around> marc_: Also it will keep reading an input file regardless of errors it encounters
[20:13] <m0ra1> umm it says a bit torrent client.. yah i used nmap so find that was open
[20:14] <brandon420> anyone know how to clear my swap mem useage?
[20:14] <BluesKaj> pierce, it's just flashplugin-installer instead of flashplugin-nonfree
[20:14] <usr13> m0ra1: What type of connection do you want to make to a computer on port 80?
[20:14] <jiffe> is there a way of seeing who issued a shutdown command?  It doesn't seem to log anything that I can tell
[20:14] <jabirali> brandon420: The kernel should do that automatically when needed.
[20:14] <jordo2323> Is there a way you can log someone into their window manager from an SSH session? (Gnome)
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> M0ra1: some clients have a web interface
[20:14] <usr13> m0ra1: Do you want to request something from it's web server?
[20:14] <m0ra1> i would like to wireless connect so i can see my harddrive so like a telnet connect but the windows 7 has telnet shut off
[20:15] <jabirali> brandon420: The kernel attempts to cache stuff if all the mem isn't required, in order to speed up subsequent actions.
[20:15] <karlo94> jiffe, maybe last
[20:15] <jrib> m0ra1: you're trying to connect to a windows computer?
[20:15] <marc_> genii-around: will try it and let you know the result, it was on another computer and i ended up re-installing anyway nothing important was lost
[20:15] <brandon420> jabirali, well im using 186mb of swap, and still have over a half a gig of actual ram. wouldnt it be faster to use the actual ram?
[20:15] <LucidGuy> Anyone know which distros equiped with the most modern kernel?
[20:15] <m0ra1> jrib: Yes
[20:15] <BluesKaj> pierce, it basically accomplishes the same same task, with a different name IMO
[20:15] <jiffe> karlo94: last shows that there was a reboot but doesn't say who issued it
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Brando
[20:15] <botcity> !Details | Minty
[20:15] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, o/
[20:16] <usr13> m0ra1: You want to "see" the hard drive on a windows7 computer?
[20:16] <m0ra1> Yes thats correct
[20:16] <pareLi> i can't seem to get the /set commands for weechat to work..
[20:16] <usr13> m0ra1: I think samba is what you might be looking for.  Right?
[20:16] <jabirali> brandon420: Yes, it would. The kernel should normally start transferring stuff from swap to ram if you're not using all your ram.
[20:16] <usr13> !samba | m0ra1
[20:17] <karlo94> jiffe, but its says what user start it up, and shut it down, is it?
[20:17] <m0ra1> okay i will check it out :) thank you for the help
[20:17] <brandon420> jabirali, as my uptime goes up, so does the swap usage
[20:17] <usr13> m0ra1: Glad to be of service.
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Brandon420: add     vm.swappiness = 0      to /etc/sysctl.conf  then run: sudo sysctl -p
[20:17] <jiffe> reboot   system boot  2.6.35-25-server Thu Feb 10 02:58 - 13:17  (10:19)
[20:17] <jiffe> thats the entry I get in last
[20:18] <karlo94> jiffe, hmm, I got that and my user name
[20:18] <Lint> lol smbfs is long time dead
[20:18] <Lint> itś an alias to cifs
[20:18] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, your awesome.
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Brandon420: makes the OS stay in RAM unless really necessary
[20:19] <Lint> and cifs doesn't work with Vista and 7
[20:19] <jiffe> karlo94: it shows other users who logged in but it doesn't indicate who issued the shutdown
[20:19] <llutz> Lint: but package smbfs provides cifs
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Li
[20:19] <Bilz> how do i install mono to run .net apps?
[20:19] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, sweet, thats what i wanted.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Lint: it can. It's just a pain
[20:20] <bastidrazor> brandon420: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq   you could read up here for some information on what swappiness is.
[20:20] <Plouj-> how do I get screen scrolling to work with the mousewheel in gnome-terminal?
[20:20] <karlo94> jiffe, than I do not know :S
[20:21] <brandon420> bastidrazor, yeah, i dont see why i should be using any of the swap.
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Brandon420:there are sysctl.conf tweaks for faster broadband
[20:23] <schnuffle> brandon420: when you don't use swap as soon as your memory limit is reached the scheduler will kill processes
[20:23] <UbuntuIsMyLife> hey how do you install KDE on ubuntu 10.10?
[20:23] <Pici> UbuntuIsMyLife: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:24] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, it didnt do anything.
[20:24] <UbuntuIsMyLife> thanks
[20:24] <brandon420> lol
[20:24] <brandon420> ok, another question. how can i make my swap use another hdd?
[20:24] <UbuntuIsMyLife> oh yea, i forgot how long kde takes D:
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntuismylife: install kubuntu-desktop and you can choose between DEs at boot
[20:25] <bastidrazor> brandon420: that swapfaq page will tell you everything you need to know.
[20:25] <schnuffle> brandon420: create a swap partition on that hd and then edit /etc/fstab
[20:25] <UbuntuIsMyLife> is it possible to get lxde or anything other than gnome and kde on ubuntu?
[20:25] <bastidrazor> ActionParsnip: faster broadband via sysctl.conf .. where is this information you have?
[20:25] <UbuntuIsMyLife> thanks ActionParsnip
[20:26] <brandon420> thanks schnuffle, does my swap need to be 5.74gb?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Brandon420: when the swap frees it will stay in ram, or reboot
[20:26] <snap> hi
[20:26] <brandon420> hi snap
[20:26] <lake> How can I have a daemon NOT require a SU PW to restart it?
[20:26] <brandon420> log in as root, lol.
[20:26] <UbuntuIsMyLife> what other desktops can you get in Ubuntu other than kde and gnome?
[20:26] <lake> I'm trying to restart a daemon from a script and I have to type my password
[20:26] <brandon420> sorry, that wasnt helpful.
[20:26] <lake> it's okay
[20:26] <lake> :)
[20:26] <schnuffle> brandon420: normal desktop? no, I would use 2GB
[20:27] <Pici> UbuntuIsMyLife: sure, theres actually a lubuntu-desktop package, as well as xubuntu-desktop.  Alternatively, there are other non -desktop packages for other popular desktop environments in the repos, openbox, blackbox, awesome, etc.
[20:27] <schnuffle> lake: use sudo
[20:27] <UbuntuIsMyLife> thanks
[20:28] <schnuffle> lake: and add the user starting the script to /etc/sudoers
[20:28] <Lint> UbuntuIsMyLife, but take care as those desktops are packaged without any software :(
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> bastidrazor: http://linuxtweaks.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/how-to-tweak-linux-for-broadband-linux-tweaks-for-faster-broadband/
[20:28] <bastidrazor> ActionParsnip: thanks
[20:28] <Pici> schnuffle, lake: its much much easier to add the user to the admin group, which already is in sudoers.
[20:28] <brandon420> has anyone updated today? should i be afraid to update?
[20:28] <UbuntuIsMyLife> Lint, is lubuntu a good one? (I used to have lubuntu)
[20:29] <schnuffle> Pici: i prefer only adding the relevant command
[20:29] <snap> i must install the graphic interface on ubuntu server, when i launch the startx i get this message: You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install xinit
[20:29] <lake> schnuffle: that's been done
[20:29] <Pici> schnuffle: You didn't mention that ;)
[20:29] <schnuffle> :)
[20:29] <lake> when I run the script w/ sudo, it can't find the interpreter I'm using
[20:29] <lake> (ruby)
[20:29] <snap> i have tryied the commad recommended sudo apt-get install xinit
[20:29] <sacarlson> lake: you can also setup sudo so that for this user that script doesn't need a password, or you can make all sudo with no password for that user
[20:29] <scampbell> snap:  Do you want gnome or kde for your desktop?
[20:29] <scampbell> snap: or something else?
[20:30] <snap> and also udo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:30] <lake> scampbell: I set that up in my /etc/sudoers and made sure all was set to nopasswd for that script
[20:30] <scampbell> snap: yean  install ubuntu-desktop and you'll get gnome.  Should be good.
[20:30] <schnuffle> lake: use the whole path to ruby e.g. /usr/bin/ruby or add the path at te beginning of your script
[20:30] <brandon420> how can i get rid of the top tool bar?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> bastidrazor: if you run a local dns, you will get faster web too as you won't keep asking the web for dns resolutions
[20:31] <ethic> changing the scroll speed on ubuntu anyone?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Brandon420: top bar of what?
[20:31] <brandon420> the default top tool bar for ubuntu
[20:32] <bastidrazor> ActionParsnip: i do, unbound.
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Brandon420: right click it -> delete panel
[20:32] <brandon420> you cant.
[20:32] <brandon420> not with that one.
[20:32] <scampbell> Lake: I'd guess that it's environment settings issue.
[20:32] <lake> schnuffle: i tried that, too. Then I end up with gem dependency issues. The dependecies don't appear to be installed when I run "sudo"
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Brandon420: as long as you have ONE you can have either
[20:33] <scampbell> Lake: see  "environment" in the sudo man page.
[20:33] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, so i have to keep one of em? i want to get rid of them all.
[20:33] <bastidrazor> ActionParsnip: have you tried these settings? do you have your own dns?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Brandon420: or delete the bottom panel and move the top panel down
[20:34] <schnuffle> lake: of course you can not suppose to have the same env, so you have to care about. Set a PATH=allpathsyou need at the beginning of your script
[20:34] <rethus> how can i set FN+F& to increase brightness with spicctrl ?
[20:35] <scampbell> Lake: it's because the RUBY environment variables are getting trashed by sudo.  It's not too useful.
[20:35] <usr13> bastidrazor: What are you trying to do?
[20:35] <botcity> if i set the variable $PATH to /usr/bin:/dir/sfile:etc:etc in a terminal  how do i save it so it stays like that ?
[20:35] <schnuffle> xiong: openbox has no panels and is useful
[20:35] <maco> botcity: export it in your ~/.bashrc
[20:35] <xiong> brandon420, We call them 'panels'. We can make them look like toolbars, menu bars, whatever we like.
[20:36] <jrib> botcity: see the example in your ~/.profile
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> bastidrazor: yes i put a dns service on all systems i setup to cache resolutions. Makes them take 0ms rather than around 30. Multiply that by a lot of requests
[20:36] <bastidrazor> usr13: toying with http://tinyurl.com/63wcjwg
[20:36] <brandon420> xiong, http://uppix.net/5/d/7/acbd1bbb6a6ff2bf16953e79afbec.png
[20:36] <brandon420> thats why i want it gone.
[20:36] <xiong> schnuffle, You don't need X to run a computer, either.
[20:36] <botcity> ok thanks guys!
[20:36] <kaie> ActionParsnip, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/641337 . schnuffel, thanks, but I simply, on login, said "standard edition", not netbook edition
[20:37] <schnuffle> xiong: for me its true, but if you want it minimalistic openbox does a good job
[20:37] <marcin_> how do i find out which version of xubuntu i'm using? i'm not sure i have 10.10
[20:37] <bastidrazor> ActionParsnip: dnsmasq is what you use?
[20:37] <Pici> marcin_: lsb_release -a
[20:37] <xiong> schnuffle, Well, this being #ubuntu, I'll stick with trying to make that work for me here.
[20:37] <scampbell> I got a good laugh the other day, I saw a place using virtual linux servers but they were complaining about the resource usage.  They had  pointlessly installed  gnome on all the virtuals even though they were doing everything via cli.
[20:37] <snap> i must install the graphic interface on ubuntu server, when i launch the startx i get this message: You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install xinit
[20:37] <usr13> bastidrazor: You mentioned having internal DNS.  Most routers have a caching DNS server you can use and they are activated by default.
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Brandon420: you could change it for something in config but the panel will auto rerun. If you look into wingpanel you can replace panel with AWN
[20:38] <x3n0z__> exit
[20:38] <x3n0z__> \quit
[20:38] <bastidrazor> usr13: my routers are 11 years old. they do not have this feature.
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> bastidrazor: yes
[20:38] <snap> the command for install the grafic interface
[20:38] <henny_> I've just attempted to make a dualboot between xp and ubuntu and it actually went really great. My only problem is that xp hasn't installed a single one of my drivers :s What is the easiest way to get a list of my hardware in ubuntu, so i can install the driver and install them in xp?
[20:38] <arbitrary> Okay, way fucked up situation.
[20:38] <Pici> arbitrary: Please mind your language here.
[20:38] <henny_> download the drivers *
[20:38] <scampbell> Brandon420: Maybe you are looking for fvwm, blackbox or some other window manager as some a thought.
[20:38] <Pici> henny_: sudo lshw
[20:38] <brandon420> bastidrazor, would you like a newish router? pay usps shipping, and i will send one to ya
[20:39] <arbitrary> my apologies. When I try to boot my ubuntu install, I get a good way through the boot process then I get kicked back to the built-in shell with a message stating "No init found. Try passing init= bootarg."
[20:39] <xiong> brandon420, You know, schnuffle does bring up a point. If you're unhappy with panels in general, that's a pretty broad UI preference. You might want to try a different distro.
[20:39] <brandon420> =/
[20:40] <brandon420> i like the way ubuntu works, lol. i semi get it.
[20:40] <usr13> bastidrazor: How many networks do you manage?
[20:40] <arbitrary> My shutdown last time was a terrible mess because something was eating so much processor power that everything kept stalling constantly. On top of that, I had attempted to update to 10.10 earlier that same session, but that seems to have failed cleanly enough.
[20:40] <arbitrary> Anyway, any ideas on how to fix this?
[20:41] <usr13> bastidrazor: How many routers do you have?
[20:41] <schnuffle> xiong: thats what i wanted to suggest :)
[20:42] <bastidrazor> usr13: 1 dhcp router with 2 used as switches and 2 more as access point and repeater
[20:42] <schnuffle> xiong: and openbox is part of ubuntu
[20:43] <arbitrary> Any ideas? At all? I'm stuck trying to use W7 and the ubuntu built-in shell hee.
[20:43] <xiong> schnuffle, Okay. My only point is that I don't find a panel-less desktop particularly useful. I have two panels in the standard arrangement and I've doubled the height of the lower one. I use it all.
[20:43] <schnuffle> xiong: okay so back on topic :)
[20:44] <usr13> bastidrazor: If it's all one LAN you only need one dhcp server.  Right?
[20:44] <veenenen> I'm running into an issue with networking. I can ping all domains on the command line, but random domains aren't available when I use network tools.
[20:44] <veenenen> Is there a good channel for dealing with this?
[20:44] <bastidrazor> usr13: correct.
[20:46] <guntbert> veenenen: try ##networking
[20:46] <usr13> bastidrazor: You can get TRENDnet TEG-S80G 8-Port Gigabit switches for about $50
[20:47] <Minty> if i install a package that wasn't available through the software centre - is there anyway i can add it so that i can manage it through there?
[20:47] <Minty> i.e for ease of later install etc
[20:47] <guntbert> usr13: what has that to do with ubuntu support?
[20:47] <usr13> bastidrazor: I don't know how big of a switch you need but that one will take care of 7 clients and lightning fast.
[20:48] <Pici> Minty: No, sorry.
[20:48] <Minty> Pici: ok, fair enough - thanks
[20:48] <usr13> bastidrazor: But if you have a caching DNS server already, you're good to go in that department.
[20:48] <Minty> Pici: i'm totally new to this - is it ok to add shortcut icons to my desktop? or does that defeat the point of using ubuntu - apologies if this question is ridiculous, i literally have no clue
[20:49] <Pici> Minty: You can do whatever you want
[20:49] <rethus> where can i adjust my FN-Key settings in xubuntu
[20:49] <eyceberg> hey, i am new to ubuntu. i am currently taking a class for it. I am trying to figure out how to get my iphone to detect on here, i have done research, but had no real success i am using lucid 10.04
[20:49] <ardchoille> Minty: It's your Ubuntu, set it up in a way that is comfortable for you :)
[20:49] <pareLi> is it possible to connect to two servers on irc at the same time with the same client?
[20:49] <Pici> pareLi: Sure.
[20:50] <pierce> Minty: I typically add application icons to my quicklaunch bar, to the right of the system menu, rather than to the desktop, which I mostly use for documents etc
[20:50] <pareLi> Pici: how?
[20:50] <Minty> Pici: when i download stuff through the download centre, can i launch it through anywhere other than terminal?
[20:50] <Minty> pierce: makes sense, i guess
[20:50] <Minty> pierce: how do i do that? sorry.
[20:50] <pierce> Minty:   drag and drop  :-)
[20:50] <usr13> bastidrazor: And if you have a pc or router with a gigabit NIC running your caching nameserver, you will be on the top shelf
[20:50] <Pici> Minty: Depends what you've downloaded, most desktop applications get put into Applications>somewhere
[20:50] <Pici> pareLi: What IRC client are you using?
[20:50] <gallez> where can i change the grub booting settings? the default system etc
[20:50] <pareLi> weechat
[20:51] <pareLi> Pici: weechat
[20:51] <ardchoille> Minty: in your menus, you can right click on an icon and get some choices
[20:51] <Minty> ardchoille: thanks
[20:51] <ardchoille> yw
[20:51] <Minty> Pici: i downloaded vim, can't find it under applications though ;)
[20:51] <gallez> where can i change the grub booting settings? the default system etc
[20:51] <pareLi> Pici: i have irssi to, but if it's possible i want to use weechat on 2 servers on the same time
[20:51] <eyceberg> has anyone gotten their iphone to work for ubuntu?
[20:51] <Pici> pareLi: I'm not familiar with weechat, but most clients have a /connect command
[20:51] <schnuffle> Minty: vim is console editor, but you can add a starter
[20:52] <Pici> Minty: Thats because vim is a command line application.  gvim provides a graphical interface.
[20:52] <gallez> where can i change the grub booting settings? the default system etc
[20:52] <rcmaehl> How do I flush my dns in the linux terminal?
[20:52] <Minty> Pici: yea, i downloaded gvim sorry
[20:52] <lake> scampbell: not sure how to configure sudo. looking around now. thanks
[20:52] <Minty> Pici: well i actually downloaded both, but gvim isn't in the application menu
[20:52] <usr13> rcmaehl: DNS is more than likely on your router
[20:52] <pareLi> Pici: i figured it out
[20:53] <schnuffle> rcmaehl: do you have a local dns runing?
[20:53] <rcmaehl> schatan: idk
[20:53] <usr13> rcmaehl: But if your running it on your PC, restart named with services
[20:53] <gallez> where can i change the grub booting settings? the default system etc
[20:53] <schnuffle> lake: use visudo to edit it, it checks the syntax
[20:53] <eyceberg> anyone have an idea of detecing an iphone?
[20:53] <pierce> Minty: in system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts   I tend to add alt+R as the run dialog  also W for browser and E for terminal etc
[20:54] <llutz> gallez: /etc/default/grub
[20:54] <schnuffle> !grub | gallez
[20:54] <|Bboy|> Question: Can anyone recommend some open source projects for home security using ubuntu as a platform?
[20:54] <PriceChild> eyceberg: Could you clarify what you mean by 'detect'?
[20:54] <gallez> thank you llutz
[20:54] <Logan_WP> !iphone | eyceberg
[20:54] <gallez> wait
[20:54] <usr13> rcmaehl: What exactly are you wanting to accomplish.
[20:54] <eyceberg> ty
[20:54] <gallez> if grub was the default bootloader before 9.10, what is the bootloader now? i'm using xubuntu 10.10 with standard settings
[20:55] <rcmaehl> usr13: the linux equivalent of ipconfig /flushdns
[20:55] <NixGeek> !RockBox
[20:55] <llutz> gallez: grub2
[20:55] <schnuffle> |Bboy|: what means home security ?
[20:55] <usr13> rcmaehl: You want to restart your network?
[20:55] <gallez> llutz: and what's the folder with the settings file?
[20:55] <botcity> how can i remove a path from the $PATH variable? or is that more work than adding it ?
[20:55] <PriceChild> botcity: which do you want to remove?
[20:55] <llutz> gallez: /etc/default/grub is the file to edit. run update-grub then to make them active.
[20:56] <lake> schnuffle: no syntax errors
[20:56] <Minty> in gvim, the  shortcut to save is :w
[20:56] <Minty> what does this mean? alt + w?
[20:56] <pareLi> rcmaehl: sudo aptitude install nscd and then sudo/etc/init.d/nscd restart
[20:56] <Pici> Minty: Its the colon key, then w
[20:56] <botcity> PriceChild:  PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/opt/real/RealPlayer << the end one!
[20:57] <llutz> botcity: easiest way: add "export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"  to your ~/.profile
[20:57] <Pici> Minty: vim/gvim is definitely not a new-user's editor.., its rather complex.
[20:57] <Encry8> how to edit crontab -e? It's blank, but I know there's a ton of stuff in there judging by what gnome-schedule has
[20:57] <schnuffle> lake: user     ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/SCRIPT
[20:57] <gallez> llutz: i have this in that file 'GRUB_DEFAULT=0'. how do i find out what the number represents?
[20:57] <CarlFK> i worked around this before..  http://dpaste.de/x5kG/  Depends: libboost-thread1.38.0 (>= 1.38.0-1) but it is not installable
[20:57] <cristiano_> ciao
[20:57] <Logan_WP> !crontab | Encry8
[20:57] <llutz> gallez: count the "menuentry" lines in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:57] <Minty> Pici: i'm new to ubuntu - but not programming, it'll take me a short while to get used to the interface i guess, but i don't mind jumping in
[20:57] <botcity> thanks llutz  :-)
[20:58] <jimcooncat> Encry8: could be under another user, or in cron.d
[20:58] <Pici> Minty: Okay :)
[20:58] <Minty> Pici: colon + w didn't do anything ;) am i supposed to be holding ctrl or alt with this or somthing?
[20:58] <scampbell> Lake: If you want a test my theory replace your ruby program with a bash script that just does 'env'.  run it with and without sudo and compare the output.    You should see the lack of RUBY.. environment variables in the output of the sudo version.  That will let you know your heading the right way to solve.
[20:58] <Pici> Minty: Press esc,then type :w   and press enter.
[20:58] <lake> schnuffle: I have ALL ALL=NOPASSWD: /home/lacus/src/foo.rb
[20:58] <Gizmo_the_Great> I 95% sure the answer to this is no, but wanted to check. If I install Ubuntu on someone's computer, or a computer of a business and ask for payment, that's not against the GNU is it?
[20:58] <PriceChild> botcity: aha... yep that's not default so I'm not going to say "that's a bad idea!" :-) Now let me see if we can figure out where its set.
[20:58] <Encry8> jimcooncat: ok thanks, i'll see if it's there
[20:58] <cristiano_> ho un problema con ubuntu 10.10
[20:58] <KB1JWQ> Minty: Okay, close out of that, get back to the command line, and type "vimtutor" followed by the enter key.  Do what it says.  You're welcome.
[20:58] <lake> scampbell: that is true, I tried "sudo env" and it does what you're saying
[20:59] <Pici> !es | cristiano_
[20:59] <Pici> KB1JWQ: ;)
[20:59] <Minty> KB1JWQ: thanks
[20:59] <cristiano_> ok
[20:59] <scampbell> Gizmo_the_Great: you may charge for your services, you may charge for the media.  You may not 'charge' for the software because you don't own it thus you cannot present any other license but the gnu.
[21:00] <Davide69> sera a tutti
[21:00] <llutz> botcity: grep -ri ":/opt/real/RealPlayer" /etc/* ~/*
[21:00] <schnuffle> lake: the first ALL gives everybody the right to execute that script as root, if you replace ALL with the user only that user will be able to do that
[21:00] <Minty> does chrome run fine on ubunut? not a massive fan of firebox unless i'm web developign tbh
[21:00] <schnuffle> lake: s/user/username/
[21:00] <schnuffle> Minty: yes
[21:01] <Minty> schnuffle: thanks
[21:01] <Starminn> Minty: Yep, running it right now. (I run both simoulatneously, as Chrome has better Flash for me so I use it for Facebook games).
[21:01] <Gizmo_the_Great> scampbell: yeah, that's what I meant, thanks. So if I say "For me to do the installation, configure printers, network connections etc and I'll pop round once a month a do some updates and for that the charge will be $XX", that's OK, ins't it. As long as I don't say "....It's $XX plus $XX for Ubuntu"
[21:01] <ardchoille> Minty: I'm using chromium as my only browser on 10;10, works great even with flash
[21:01] <Logan_WP> Minty: use the nightly version of Firefox - it's very fast
[21:01] <scampbell> Gizmo_the_great: yes, that is very proper.
[21:01] <Logan_WP> Minty: http://nightly.mozilla.org/
[21:01] <cristiano_> I have a problem with ubuntu 10.10.non can not connect to internet
[21:02] <Gizmo_the_Great> scampbell: thank you
[21:02] <lake> schnuffle: right. so I can run it without typing the sudo password. that's great. HOWEVER. a line in the script uses a system call to restart a daemon. That's when it asks me for the password...
[21:02] <lake> I can't possible run the script through cron when i always asks me for the SU password
[21:02] <lake> really, i just confused. :(
[21:03] <Pici> lake: Put it in root's crontab then:  sudo crontab -e
[21:03] <schnuffle> lake: paste the line
[21:03] <llutz> lake: use system-crontab, its run as root
[21:03] <scampbell> lake: we apply NOPASSWD: to those sort of things but we keep it locked down to the particular command line you want to run.
[21:03] <brontoeee> Logan_WP, ppa would be?
[21:03] <scampbell> ++llutz:  Better answer
[21:03] <lake> system("sudo /etc/init.d/thing restart")
[21:03] <jrib> scampbell: I think your answer is best tbh...
[21:04] <Logan_WP> brontoeee: debatable
[21:04] <Minty> Logan_WP: thanks
[21:04] <Logan_WP> Minty: np
[21:04] <lake> Pici: root doesn't have the correct environment setup to use my scripting language
[21:04] <schnuffle> lake: drop the sudo as the script is already runing as root
[21:04] <Logan_WP> yeah, I guess ppa is better for Ubuntu
[21:04] <jmarshall> one of my servers' disks is full, is there a way I can see where all the space is being used? (which directories/folders)
[21:05] <bastidrazor> jmarshall: du -h   will list all directories and sub directories by size
[21:05] <scampbell> jmarshall: from command line   du -s *   will show you the disk usage total for every file and directory in the current directory.
[21:05] <usr13> jmarshall: du -sk * | sort -n  <will list by file sizes, largest last>
[21:06] <usr13>  jmarshall ls -lS |grep ^d   <will show directories sorted by size>
[21:06] <eyceberg> ok
[21:06] <llutz> jmarshall:  du -a /var | sort -n -r | head -n 10
[21:06] <scampbell> jmarshall: if you are gui bound then you can look in nautilius list format to see disk usage as well.
[21:07] <brontoeee> until they dont get rid of that house with red roof as home button, i wont run ff
[21:07] <Logan_WP> brontoeee: it's just black on Windows
[21:07] <usr13>  jmarshall ls -lSf |grep ^d   <will show directories sorted by size - largest ones last>
[21:08] <eyceberg> i went to the website. i have ubuntu 10.04 lucid, its basically saying to use ifuse to check the filesystem. i am trying to figure out how to at least have the iphone be recognized in ubuntu i have the iphone plugged in and still no indication. do i need to sudo something up?
[21:08] <scampbell> on firefox, if you don't like the home button just remove it!
[21:08] <brontoeee> Logan_WP, well, ff has that bug thing, which is great for css development, also rss/xml parser, reader, other than that i'am all chromic
[21:09] <EnrgySmth> has anyone tried setting up dmx / xdmx (distributed multihead xserver)?
[21:09] <Logan_WP> eyceberg: did you see that info about 4.2.x on your iPhone?  are you running that?
[21:09] <eyceberg> yes i am running 4.2.x
[21:09] <eyceberg> let me check. sorry
[21:09] <Logan_WP> eyceberg: there are extra steps at the bottom of the page for the iPhone
[21:10] <samael6> does anybody here knows what the ubuntu server chatroom is
[21:10] <samael6> where i mean
[21:10] <Logan_WP> eyceberg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#Device%20does%20not%20mount%20after%20iOS4.2.x%20upgrade
[21:10] <jxshxx> Greetings.  I tried to run a windows program with Wine, but it told me I needed MS .NET4  After I downloaded it, I get the "executable bit" error message.  Is there anything I can do?
[21:10] <Scaevolus> is it possible to install and use an Ubuntu 10.04 kernel in tandem with a complete Ubuntu 10.10 install?
[21:10] <Scaevolus> jxshxx: you should use Mono to run .NET applications
[21:10] <schnuffle> Scaevolus: Yes
[21:11] <atpa8a> any idea what might cause a service to fail to start during the boot sequence (but it then starts without problem manually)?
[21:11] <zillar> what are the differences between "python" "python2" and "python2.6" in /usr/bin ?
[21:11] <scampbell> atpa8a: usually something it depends on isn't running yet.  Check the logs.
[21:11] <pierce> zillar: they simlink to eachother
[21:11] <pierce> *symlink
[21:12] <zillar> so all of them are python2.6?
[21:12] <atpa8a> scampbell: i must be missing something... it's slapd and for the life of me i cannot see what's wrong with it during boot
[21:12] <Scaevolus> schnuffle: how would I do it?
[21:12] <NixGeek> atpa8a: what service
[21:12] <pierce> zillar: works well when you want to have multiple version of python installed
[21:12] <atpa8a> NixGeek: slapd
[21:13] <Scaevolus> (for context, I'm trying to use Intel VTune, which has to compile kernel modules that work with Ubuntu 10.04, but not 10.10)
[21:13] <eyceberg> Scaevolus: i tried to upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04 it says cant calculate update
[21:13] <eyceberg> so i am curious about that myself :)
[21:13] <NixGeek> atpa8a: no idea, i've had it happen with xorg before though, and I reinstalled the drivers
[21:13] <jxshxx> Scaevolus: Is that "MonoDevelop"? in the software center?
[21:13] <Scaevolus> jxshxx: just Mono-- it lets you run CLR (.net) programs
[21:14] <samael6> does anybodu know where the ubuntu server chatroom is
[21:14] <aeon-ltd> !server
[21:14] <aeon-ltd> samael6: above at the end
[21:14] <scampbell> atpa8a: I don't have it installed atm but check it's configuration, you should be able to turn up the logging level and see what it says.
[21:14] <atpa8a> hmm
[21:14] <linux4help> Hello people. I'm returning to linux after a number of years and new to Ubuntu, got it installed and running. Can anyone recommend some books or documents that aren't too basic for command lines, scripting, and getting around ubuntu? Theres a ton on amazon i'm looking at now
[21:15] <guntbert> !manual | linux4help
[21:15] <atpa8a> does that look "normal" from boot.log: Starting openntpd: Starting OpenLDAP: slapd - failed.
[21:15] <VCoolio> !abs | linux4help
[21:15] <linux4help> Thank you!!
[21:16] <atpa8a> i musta screwed something up
[21:16] <atpa8a> used insserv to start slapd before krb5-kdc
[21:17] <scampbell> atpa8a: it's just debugging. I had a server her running postgresql and kvm virtuals. Postgres kept failing at boot time. the reason was it was programmed to listen on the virtual network for kvm and that wasn't up when it started.  Very similar to what you are experiencing I think.
[21:18] <atpa8a> hmm
[21:18] <atpa8a> i do use kvm
[21:18] <atpa8a> but the ldap runs in the kvm host
[21:18] <scampbell> atpa8a: so unlikely that specific scenario is the issue but it illustrates the sort of thing that can happen.
[21:19] <atpa8a> the bridge for the guests tho is a different nic (have a dual nic intel adapter here)
[21:19] <scampbell> Okay, guests have arrived.  Time to go play
[21:19] <Encry8> Ugh! I've tried several methods no luck, trying to stick this on a cron using gnome-schedule, gnome-schedule says it uses the char %, so i tried escaping w/ "\%", this works fine in bash, just not cron http://paste.ubuntu.com/565561/
[21:21] <KB1JWQ> Encry8: Is it seeing wget in its path?
[21:21] <Gizmo_the_Great> is there a way to determine whether a computers hardware is fully compatible with a particular Ubuntu release?  Before everyone says "Yes, using the live CD", I have had instances where a Live CD has booted OK but then the install has failed.
[21:21] <raven_> hi, who can help me to rebuild kernel?
[21:21] <KB1JWQ> !kernel | raven_
[21:21] <linux4help> I can't believe how many more programs there are for linux than when i used it in the late 90's, this is awesome!
[21:21] <Logan_WP> :)
[21:22] <raven_> ok
[21:22] <jjajoshua> where are ubuntu desktop icons located?
[21:22] <serialized> ~/Desktop?
[21:22] <PriceChild> jjajoshua: somewhere in /usr/share/icons
[21:23] <lake> schnuffle: thanks for your help. I changed the ownership of the script to root:root and now sudo works from inside
[21:23] <lake> and I don't have to type my pw to run the script at all. completely automated now. thank, schnuffle
[21:23] <Minty> i downloaded firefox nightly
[21:24] <Minty> how do i install it? i've got the folder open
[21:24] <Logan_WP> just open it
[21:24] <|Bboy|> Question: Can anyone recommend some open source projects for home security using ubuntu as a platform?
[21:24] <Logan_WP> no installation required, I think
[21:24] <zakwilson> I want specific things to run on suspend/resume. There used to be scripts in /etc/acpi/events that were triggered on suspend and on resume, but I don't see them in 10.10.
[21:24] <Pricey> |Bboy|: "home security"? like monitoring cameras etc. ?
[21:24] <Minty> Logan_WP: how? haha
[21:24] <Logan_WP> Minty: open the Firefox file
[21:24] <Minty> run-mozilla.sh comes up with errors if i double click it
[21:25] <aeon-ltd> Minty: did you get the source? or the bin ?
[21:25] <Logan_WP> Firefox.bin
[21:25] <Minty> i just downloaded it
[21:25] <jxshxx> Scaevolus: I'm using 10.04LTS, and I'm reading that I should use Badgerports to get Mono.  Am I on the right track?
[21:25] <Logan_WP> oh wait, did you unpack the tar.bz2?
[21:25] <Minty> I downloaded it and i've got the download open
[21:25] <andre_> Hello guys. I would like to create a startup usb disk to install a different distro than ubuntu (kxstudio) via netboot. I launch the startup-disk-creator app, but when i choose the iso, nothing happens and the iso doesnt get choosed. What could be the problem?
[21:25] <Minty> Logan_WP: no
[21:25] <Minty> Logan_WP: how i do that?
[21:26] <Logan_WP> !tar.bz2 | Minty
[21:26] <Minty> what does that even mean :P
[21:26] <guntbert> andre_: it only works with ubuntu-cds
[21:27] <Logan_WP> Minty: just right click the folder and press "Extract Here"
[21:27] <Minty> are GNOME / KDE applications i should download?
[21:27] <botcity> llutz everyone  i should say that i removed alot of realplayer with a howto that i found online as there was no un-installer.  grep found http://pastebin.com/N7zejfcg  if i remove them will that stop it setting my $PATH variable ?
[21:27] <Minty> ok thanks
[21:28] <AndChat-> Kk
[21:28] <Joepie> Q: gettin 2002 error with phpmyadmin any1 got a idea ?
[21:28] <|Bboy|> Pricey: yes camera's locks
[21:28] <area51pilot> andre: are you using Universal USB installer?  :   http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/
[21:28] <badsyntax> struggling to load http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog anyone have any info why?
[21:28] <taotree> I upgraded and now there is this Nautilus menu on top of the screen: File/Edit/View/Places/Help. How do I get rid of it? It's not a panel so can't be removed via the panel config
[21:28] <Scaevolus> jxshxx: sounds right
[21:29] <Announcement> hey guys
[21:29] <Announcement> i installed ubuntu desktop 10.10 onto my laptop
[21:29] <Announcement> i can't find the battery level
[21:29] <Logan_WP> Announcement: which laptop model?
[21:30] <Guest69166> please do i need antivirus in ubuntu ?
[21:30] <Logan_WP> Guest69166: no.
[21:30] <|Bboy|> Pricey: thoughts ??
[21:30] <area51pilot> Announcement: notification area
[21:30] <NixGeek> Announcement: unplug the laptop
[21:30] <AndChat-> .
[21:30] <aeon-ltd> Guest69166: not really, unless you plan to use it as a windows file server
[21:30] <Logan_WP> !antivirus | Guest69166
[21:30] <aeon-ltd> Guest69166: get a good firewall though and set it up right
[21:30] <marc_> was gonna say that NixGeek
[21:30] <dash> .
[21:30] <Announcement> oh there we go it just takes a minute
[21:31] <marc_> dash: as in the incredibles
[21:31] <Guest69166> thanks all
[21:31] <Announcement> oh and btw installing ubuntu fixed many problems with my laptop
[21:31] <dash> Nah... keyboard
[21:31] <NixGeek> Announcement: to make it so it always shows the battery meter, go to System > Administration > Power management and choose the second tab
[21:31] <Announcement> like before it wasnt holding a charge, and it was running slow, and the graphics were basicly screwed
[21:31] <marc_> Announcement: no it just replaced microsoft.. which is only 1 problem
[21:33] <Announcement> OH THATS AWESOME! i could be entertained by just draging the windows around with that animation
[21:33] <botcity> ls
[21:33] <Phoebus> Say aye if you'd like Mubarak to get kicked out of Egypt or thrown in jail.
[21:33] <Announcement> so ms was causing these problems? lol
[21:34] <Logan_WP> Announcement: it could have been a combination of factors
[21:34] <Logan_WP> I'm sure that if you clean installed Windows 7 it would have worked just as fine
[21:35] <marc_> Announcement: sorry i was joking about microsoft i have mcse
[21:35] <samael6> is linux good for gaming?
[21:35] <Announcement> its ms win xp
[21:35] <sLm> hi my english isn't very well. my computer on gnome deleted. how to return back?
[21:35] <tech3> samael6: If the game has a native linux client
[21:35]  * Announcement hugs ubuntu
[21:36] <Pricey> samael6: depends on the game
[21:36] <linux4help> i know people who play wow on linux
[21:36] <sLm> please help me
[21:36] <Announcement> WoW is ok
[21:36] <marc_> Announcement: like Logan said windows 7 would work fine also
[21:36] <Announcement> i wanna try the new one
[21:36] <tech3> samael6: I've found games that have a native linux client run smoother than games with the native windows client
[21:36] <samael6> windows sucks
[21:36]  * Announcement whispers i have win7ultimate iso's with list of cd keys
[21:36] <tech3> samael6: The problem is finding native linux games :/
[21:36] <linux4help> what is this windows?
[21:36] <tech3> samael6: good* native linux games
[21:37] <linux4help> There is no windows, only linux
[21:37] <Logan_WP> linux4help: ah, okay
[21:37] <linux4help> lol
[21:37] <marc_> lol
[21:38] <tech3> hey, calling all developers. I want to write a gtk frontend to a command line program. links, special functions, tips?
[21:38] <Guest69166> please how can I install gromacs in ubuntu?
[21:38] <aeon-ltd> linux4help: stop trying to bend the windows that is impossible rather bend the world around the windows
[21:38] <marc_> i am not exactly happy with windows.. but.. businesses don't want to move away from ad
[21:38] <linux4help> lol
[21:39] <marc_> more like stop trying to clean install windows that's impossible first only try to realise the truth.. there is no live CD
[21:39] <linux4help> There has got to me something in here that converts html to pdf.
[21:40] <Announcement> i forgot what it was called, marc_
[21:40] <brontoeee> linux4help, print to pdf printer maybe?
[21:40] <aeon-ltd> linux4help: funnily enough theres a app that does the opposite called pdftohtml
[21:40] <Logan_WP> !cupspdf | linux4help
[21:40] <linux4help> k thanks =D
[21:40] <nomore> hi
[21:41] <Logan_WP> linux4help: np
[21:41] <Guest69166> any body knows how to install gromacs ?
[21:42] <cschneid> Does anybody run ubuntu on a mac?
[21:42] <cschneid> (mac hardware)
[21:42] <marc_> cschmeid: you mean on the intel mac or g4 and before
[21:42] <schnuffle> Guest69166: sudo aptitude install gromacs
[21:42] <cschneid> marc_: intel mac - I have a recent mac pro
[21:43] <cschneid> mostly worried about making bootloading smooth I think.
[21:43] <cschneid> would grub be the entry point, with a 2nd stage booting osx's or ... can I use apple's
[21:43] <Oer> much info cschneid > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[21:43] <ronagain> hi
[21:44] <cschneid> Oer: cool, reading up :)
[21:44] <marc_> was gonna do that as well lol
[21:44] <Encry8> Ugh! I've tried several methods no luck, trying to stick this on a cron using gnome-schedule, gnome-schedule says it uses the char %, so i tried escaping w/ "\%", this works fine in bash, just not cron http://paste.ubuntu.com/565561/
[21:44] <cschneid> marc_: dual boot?  I want a nice "clean" dev environment without distractions...
[21:44] <ronagain> I get all these 404 when doing an apt-get update, here is my sources.list      http://mibpaste.com/IZu1XX
[21:44] <Guest69166> what the command for that ? plz
[21:45] <marc_> cschneid: no give you the support site
[21:45] <cschneid> hah
[21:45] <cschneid> ok
[21:45] <cschneid> marc_: thanks a bunch. Gotta read up
[21:45] <schnuffle> ronagain: isnt intrepid eol?
[21:45] <cschneid> Oer: you rock as well :) Thanks
[21:45] <ronagain> schnuffle: what's eol
[21:45] <Guest69166> how to reply to a specific person ?
[21:46] <schnuffle> end of live
[21:46] <Yohko> Should I install the package sun-java6-jre or sun-java6-bin for Java?
[21:46] <ronagain> you mean repositories are down?
[21:46] <schnuffle> ronagain: yes, wait ive to check
[21:46] <rww> ubottu: eol | ronagain
[21:46] <ronagain> schnuffle: is there an alternative to upgrading?
[21:47] <GI_Jack> anyone else in hear have problems with transmageddon?
[21:47] <marc_> how long is left for 10.10
[21:47] <ronagain> do I have any alternative to upgrading? I like this version
[21:47] <rww> marc_: 10.10 was released in October. Non-LTS releases get 1.5 years of support. So April 1012.
[21:47] <schnuffle> ronagain: keep the system as it is, buts thats not reommended
[21:47] <rww> ronagain: Depends. Are you happy with not getting updates to fix unpatched security vulnerabilities?
[21:48] <ronagain> not really
[21:48] <Yohko> ronagain, whatever you like about your system can be replicated after an upgrade
[21:48] <rww> ronagain: Then no.
[21:48] <ronagain> I just came to this problem while trying to install oracle
[21:48] <rww> ronagain: Intrepid hasn't gotten security updates since April.
[21:48] <marc_> who said you have to upgrade?
[21:48] <ronagain> marc_: is there an alternative to upgrading?
[21:49] <Yohko> ronagain the alternative to upgrading is keeping your system as is
[21:49] <ronagain> ok
[21:49] <rww> ronagain: The alternative to upgrading is not upgrading, and therefore not getting any updates, and not getting support in here.
[21:49] <marc_> ronagain: but you run the risk of security issues
[21:49] <ronagain> what is the recommended version for upgrading?
[21:49] <robert-brown> How exatly does "Use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService"
[21:50] <Announcement> how delete msg on facebook. just asking i know a tad off-topic
[21:50] <schnuffle> ronagain: 10.04 LTS
[21:50] <robert-brown> 10.10
[21:50] <Yohko> ronagain the one that is next after your current release
[21:50] <mickster04> Announcement: theres a little X about top right of the status
[21:50] <rww> ronagain: 10.04. To get there, you'd need to do 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04.
[21:50] <marc_> Announcement: hover mouse over message and you should see an X appear
[21:51] <rww> robert-brown: I generally find that people that managed to get their non-LTS release horribly out of date are better candidates for LTS releases :\
[21:51] <ronagain> is there a command for doing the upgrade from console?
[21:51] <schnuffle> rww: +1
[21:51] <zillar> sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[21:51] <rww> ronagain: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades for instructions.
[21:51] <zillar> i believe ronagain
[21:51] <rww> zillar: dist-upgrade is not a recommended or supported upgrade method
[21:52] <Announcement> kk founnd it
[21:52] <marc_> normally people download the lastest iso and burn it to disk?
[21:52] <zillar> rww: I was answering a question
[21:52] <rww> zillar: I know. That wasn't the right answer ;)
[21:53] <ronagain> crap man
[21:53] <ronagain> all I want to do install oracle xe
[21:54] <Logan_WP> !oracle | ronagain
[21:54] <ikonia> ronagain: keep in mind oracle may/maynot work as well on ubuntu as other distributions due to Oracles stable and older component requirements
[21:54] <ikonia> ronagain: one of the reasons Oracle are working on their own linux platform and have targeted Redhat in the past
[21:54] <zillar> may not work at all due to oracle being an evil empire
[21:54] <ronagain> well it's for work
[21:54] <ronagain> so no way around
[21:54] <ikonia> zillar: don't be stupid please, it's nothing to do with being an "evil empire"
[21:55] <ikonia> ronagain: it's possible, just keep in mind the potentitial for issues due to Oracle liking older tried and tested components
[21:55] <schnuffle> ronagain: if it will be productive use centos
[21:55] <ronagain> naaa just local tests
[21:56] <niles> ve when I mean to
[21:56] <ronagain> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of oracle-xe-universal:  oracle-xe-universal depends on libaio (>= 0.3.96) | libaio1 (>= 0.3.96); however:   Package libaio is not installed.   Package libaio1 is not installed.
[21:56] <niles> oops
[21:56] <niles> wrong chan
[21:56] <marc_> o.ø
[21:56] <ronagain> maybe I can just get that libaio somewhere and move on
[21:56] <jxshxx> Scaevolus: I'm new to this, but as best I can figure from badgerports.org, Mono isn't there.  If it is, I don't understand how to get it.  Any other suggestions?  Any and all hand holding appreciated :)
[21:57] <ikonia> jxshxx: mono should be there
[21:58] <marc_> jxshxx: look harder
[21:58]  * BluesKaj mulls over dnsmasq
[21:58] <Vustom> What are the alternatives to using Wine?
[21:59] <JesperFFF> Some know how i can get to know  the model names of my network cards in ubuntu?
[21:59] <ronagain> thanks bye
[21:59] <JesperFFF> someone
[21:59] <marc_> Vustom: virtualbox
[21:59] <rumpe1> JesperFFF, lspci
[21:59] <Vustom> I don't want to use VB, forgot to add..
[22:00] <schnuffle> JesperFFF: sudo lspci |  grep Ether
[22:00] <Scaevolus> jxshxx: I don't know, last time I tried to run something with .NET 4 I couldn't get it working either
[22:00] <robert-brown> Why do they say that ubuntu is for noob
[22:01] <zillar> robert-brown: because thay'
[22:01] <Yohko> because it's easy to use
[22:01] <marc_> robert-brown: if your new to linux its the best distro
[22:01] <zillar> re elitists?
[22:01] <schnuffle> robert-brown: what do you think waht happens when you upgrade a win95 system
[22:01] <JasonMSP> How do you unlist a directory on the web within a sub domain?
[22:01] <robert-brown> schnuffle: What
[22:01] <JesperFFF> Thanks!
[22:02] <marc_> schnuffle: lol.. as if
[22:02] <robert-brown> JasonMSP: Delete it?
[22:02] <schnuffle> robert-brown: it's the easiest to use but some knowledge is necessary even on windows to install orcale
[22:02] <JasonMSP> robert-brown:  no I'd like it to not be listed on the internet, in otherwords it can't be found unless you go directly to that URL
[22:03] <robert-brown> JasonMSP: Put it on a webserver?
[22:03] <robert-brown> Use norobots?
[22:03] <JasonMSP> im running apache2
[22:03] <robert-brown> JasonMSP: Just don't link to the directory anywhere on the site :P
[22:03] <robert-brown> You can also change permissions
[22:03] <JasonMSP> robots.txt doesn't keep the door locked.  Its more like a, " please don't enter this door."
[22:03] <marc_> JasonMSP: 2.2?
[22:03] <robert-brown> like chmod it to 700
[22:03] <robert-brown> or password protect it
[22:04] <JasonMSP> id like it accessible on the internet, but only if people know the URL.
[22:04] <ikonia> JasonMSP: remove the directory index option from the <directory> variable in the apache config
[22:04] <marc_> JasonMSP: so you want a link to not show.. subdirect the pages
[22:04] <robert-brown> just make a blank index.html JasonMSP
[22:05] <schnuffle> robert-brown: just realize, confused the name sorry
[22:05] <JasonMSP> well.  www.mysite.com being fully accessible, how do I lock mysite.com/donotenter/
[22:06] <marc_> JasonMSP: if you make a sub folder -  directory and put the pages in there.. using / on the url will take you there
[22:06] <robert-brown> haha
[22:07] <marc_> JasonMSP: as far as i know if there is no referer to that site then robot won't find it
[22:07] <schnuffle> JasonMSP: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/htaccess.html
[22:07] <ikonia> JasonMSP: as I've told you, you remove the directory index options from the <directory> directive in the apache config
[22:07] <grkblood> how do i find out the card number for audio devices?
[22:07] <JasonMSP> marc_:  yes of course.  (to both your statements)  but I im talking about people that are intentionally looking to get in.
[22:08] <marc_> ikonia: that could lead to subfolders being ignored
[22:08] <maco> grkblood: grep Subsystem /proc/asound/card*/Codec* i think
[22:08] <openbees> minty: what is th eprroblem with firefox
[22:09] <robert-brown> grep
[22:09] <andrewfree1> I can connect to my server via ssh, and ping other comps on the local network however I cant connect to anything outside our local network. Im on the same network so I know its not a router issue, and services networking start gives me   "start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.40" (uid=1000 pid=1757 comm="start) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requeste
[22:09] <andrewfree1> "  any idea?
[22:09] <marc_> JasonMSP: so you want a link that can only be accessed on a page but not listed in sitemap or search engine
[22:09] <The-Jag> Hi, I'm trying to use Openshot video editor but when I try to export the video, it says that I haven't installed the codecs. Is there a way to install codecs? I already installed those gstreamer packages but they seems of no help...
[22:09] <The-Jag> Ubuntu 10.10
[22:09] <JasonMSP> marc_:  yes
[22:09] <Announcement> whats the k for in kubuntu
[22:09] <grkblood> thanks
[22:09] <maco> The-Jag: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? id start there
[22:09] <maco> Announcement: kde
[22:09] <marc_> JasonMSP: using php ?
[22:09] <Announcement> whats that
[22:09] <JasonMSP> schnuffle: good link Ill take an indepth look later.
[22:10] <The-Jag> maco: stand-by
[22:10] <maco> Announcement: http://kde.org the desktop environment that Kubuntu uses, as opposed to GNOME which is used by Ubuntu
[22:10] <JasonMSP> marc_: would prefer a simple server setting but if I need to do php that would be ol
[22:10] <Encry8> is there anyways to get the WinTV-HVR tv card working without MythTV? (Not having luck with MythTV)
[22:10] <JasonMSP> *ok
[22:10] <Announcement> so its just a different gui
[22:10] <Announcement> i love the effect when you drag windows arround
[22:10] <marc_> JasonMSP: not to difficult of you set sessionid()
[22:10] <maco> Announcement: and set of default applications, yes
[22:11] <Announcement> oh, cool.
[22:11] <Logan_WP> !tv | Encry8
[22:12] <marc_> JasonMSP: the backend thing you want will effect other server routines permissions
[22:12] <JasonMSP> marc_:  didn't understand last.
[22:12] <eyceberg> hey , i am trying to mount my iphone using ifuse module. how do i specify the correct mounting point if the device is not recognize in ubuntu?
[22:13] <JasonMSP> marc_: ok in othewords it would be global, vs site specific
[22:13] <ikonia> eyceberg: I didn't think it was mountable
[22:13] <Announcement> how good is ubuntu with servesr
[22:13] <Announcement> servers*
[22:13] <ikonia> Announcement: stable and solid
[22:13] <marc_> JasonMSP: If you set a sessionid() on the page with the link and on the actual page have a referer if sessionid() isnt set send back to main page
[22:13] <hydester> anybody use "links2 -g" successfully with framebuffer support at a console?
[22:14] <marc_> JasonMSP: 3 lines of code max
[22:14] <NixGeek> Announcement: not to be rude, but a google search is sufficient for small easily answered stuff, like what the k in kubuntu is.  Trying google first before posting a question keeps the channel more open for harder/more urgent problems.
[22:14] <eyceberg> ikonia: yes there is a work around on the ubuntu forums i am just having some trouble figuring it out.
[22:14] <JasonMSP> marc_:  ok.  But I hadn't intended on there being a link.
[22:14] <ikonia> eyceberg: I thought the only way was with a jail broken phone ?
[22:15] <marc_> JasonMSP: and if your determined to do it back-end server side then set virtual hosts
[22:15] <JasonMSP> just the page:  mysite.com/donotenter/index.html
[22:15] <JasonMSP> I have virtual hosts setup already in apache
[22:16] <marc_> so you want to give a person a url they have to type in
[22:16] <JasonMSP> exactly
[22:16] <marc_> or you can send them a link in an email
[22:16] <marc_> have the pages either in a directory or virtual host
[22:17] <Gifford> How can I boot ubuntu from usb flash, tried unetbootin for windows, it says boot error
[22:17] <grkblood> anyone know how to fix this?
[22:17] <grkblood> ALSA lib dlmisc.c:236:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_front.so
[22:17] <marc_> they can share the scripts css and others by linking them
[22:17] <JasonMSP> yes of course.  But I don't want it discoverable on the internet.  Robots.txt does not prevent access from searchers.  (maybe my question is really dumb and i just need to PW protect it, but I was thinking there could be another way)
[22:17] <eyceberg> is there any way to install cubase without using wine? heard it had a lot of bugs ie: can not load plugins
[22:18] <ikonia> eyceberg: no, it's not available for Linux
[22:18] <The-Jag> maco: I installed that package and now seems to work: odd how I forgot to install it at first!
[22:18] <The-Jag> maco: thanks!
[22:18] <maco> np
[22:18] <eyceberg> bummer
[22:18] <paq7512> piding just got removed from a partial update
[22:19] <paq7512> when i try to install now it says unmet dependencies
[22:19] <Gifford> hello, how can boot ubuntu fron flash usb
[22:19] <sobersabre> hi. is it possible to connect form ubuntu to VPN-1 checkpoint fw VPN  ?
[22:19] <paq7512> E: broken packages
[22:19] <eyceberg> Gifford: Google has awesome guides for that
[22:19] <billy_> soy nuevo en esto alguien me puede decir como instalar los driver de mi webcam en ubuntu .. por que es una webcam genius y solo es para windows
[22:20] <eyceberg> do you have ubuntu installed? already Gifford?
[22:20] <Logan_WP> !es | billy_
[22:20] <Gifford> eyceberg: no, I have iso
[22:20] <bnovc> every time I upgrade kernel versions (just with standard updates), my nvidia drive stops working. Right now its broken again. What am I supposed to be doing to avoid this?
[22:20] <bnovc> it always starts working again with some combination of deleting the driver, re-installing it, and deleting my x config
[22:21] <rumpe1> bnovc, re-installing how?
[22:21] <VCoolio> bnovc: did you install the driver manually or with repo?
[22:21] <gordonjcp> eyceberg: it's a shame Ubuntu doesn't just provide a straight USB image
[22:21] <bnovc> I installed with the "additional drivers" interface
[22:21] <bnovc> I believe
[22:21] <ikonia> bnovc: did you download anything from nvidia.com ?
[22:21] <bnovc> no
[22:21] <VCoolio> bnovc: if you did the .bin from the site, it breaks on kernel update, known thing; else it shouldn't happen
[22:21] <eyceberg> hmm, thought they did.
[22:21] <bnovc> I didn't do that
[22:21] <bnovc> I installed it through Synaptic actually
[22:21] <ikonia> bnovc: what is the current kernel version ?
[22:22] <bnovc> and that's how I've been uninstalling and re-install it
[22:22] <ikonia> bnovc: are you %100 certain
[22:22] <bnovc> ikonia: yes
[22:22] <bnovc> Linux newnam-desktop 2.6.35-25-generic-pae #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 21 19:01:46 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:22] <gordonjcp> eyceberg: they used to, maybe they still do but hide them really carefully
[22:22] <ikonia> !linux-image
[22:22] <gordonjcp> eyceberg: this whole "iso" thing makes it really hard to install Ubuntu
[22:22] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[22:22] <ikonia> bnovc: odd, seems in line with stable release
[22:22] <Announcement> the screen dimmed and i cant see to change it :(
[22:22] <Announcement> do i have to reboot?
[22:22] <bnovc> ikonia: yup
[22:23] <Thewarlock> yes
[22:23] <bnovc> and the nvidia stuff is currently checked in synaptic
[22:23] <eyceberg> does fl studio have a fix for installing in ubuntu?
[22:23] <eyceberg> does fl studio have a fix for installing in ubuntu?
[22:23] <bnovc> but I think if I uninstall it, re-install it, and delete my x config, it will work
[22:23] <bnovc> I believe
[22:23] <eyceberg> my bad, wrong button...
[22:23] <bnovc> I'd really like to be able to just update normally though
[22:23] <VCoolio> bnovc: no need to delete x config, shouldn't be an issue with an update
[22:23] <ikonia> bnovc: can you do dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia for me and pastebin it
[22:24] <bnovc> when I boot without doing any of that, X fails to start
[22:24] <bnovc> saying that the kernel module isn't loaded
[22:24] <ikonia> bnovc: ok, so lets have a quick look,
[22:24] <bnovc> ikonia: http://pastie.org/1550686
[22:25] <ikonia> !info nvidia-common
[22:25] <tellerrand> ist
[22:25] <bnovc>     Driver         "nvidia"
[22:25] <bnovc>     VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
[22:25] <ikonia> !info nvidia-current
[22:25] <VCoolio> ikonia: he has pae kernel, does that have issues with nvidia module not loading automatically?
[22:25] <bnovc> that's what I had in it
[22:25] <ikonia> VCoolio: I didn't expect it to, but maybe
[22:26] <ikonia> bnovc: your nvidia common component is not current, so that's interesting
[22:26] <ikonia> bnovc: but I don't see that as your problem
[22:26] <reed1> hi, winrar is shareware, but it doesn't get expired after 30 days, why ?
[22:26] <ikonia> bnovc: what happens if you "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[22:26] <ikonia> reed1: not all shareware does
[22:26] <bnovc> FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[22:27] <ikonia> bnovc: ok, now do "sudo find /usr -name nvidia.ko -print "
[22:27] <reed1> ikonia: lol it's freeware then, but not opensource
[22:27] <ikonia> reed1: no-one said it was open source
[22:27] <jenka> Could I have multiple domain names in citadel? :S
[22:28] <bnovc> ikonia: nothing
[22:29] <ikonia> bnovc: sorry, that should be "sudo find /lib -name nvidia.ko -print"
[22:29] <ikonia> bnovc: sorry
[22:29] <VCoolio> bnovc: maybe this helps http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/04/installing-nvidia-driver-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[22:30] <ikonia> VCoolio: thaqt tells him to install external nvidia drivers, why have you suggested that ?
[22:30] <bnovc> ah I think I see the problem
[22:30] <ikonia> bnovc: not in the current kernel, but in the old ones ?
[22:30] <bnovc> I just installed the kernel headers for my kernel and it started installing the nvidia driver
[22:30] <VCoolio> ikonia: because it's recent, it recognizes pae kernel vs nvidia driver issue and hands a solution he can follow or refuse
[22:30] <bnovc> because it doesn't install the -pae headers
[22:31] <bnovc>  * dkms: running auto installation service for kernel 2.6.35-25-generic-pae
[22:31] <ikonia> VCoolio: no it doesn't, it puts the replicates the same problem, each kernel update he'll have to do the same process, plus the drivers will be unsupported
[22:31] <ikonia> bnovc: it's a bug, get it logged, good find
[22:31] <VCoolio> bnovc: just reinstall driver on kernel update, in any way you want, preferably apt-get of course; seems an issue with pae kernel and nvidia drivers
[22:33] <VCoolio> bnovc: on the link I gave, follow the comments, some guy says if you have linux-headers-generic-pae installed, remove linux-headers-generic first, then nvidia is fine, try that
[22:33] <ryan_> hey umm...
[22:34] <malton> hi.  i did an other day ad now my computer is running sluggishly/jerkily. i noticedlle events/1 is using a lot of cpu but i can't kill it
[22:34] <malton> any ideas?
[22:34] <ryan_> is there any way to install other themes on lubuntu
[22:34] <ryan_> how do you install themes on Lubuntu?
[22:34] <Logan_WP> !lubuntu | ryan_
[22:35] <ryan_> kk
[22:35] <ryan_> but there's a problem
[22:35] <VCoolio> ryan_: extract gtk themes to .themes, icons to .icons, no big deal
[22:35] <ryan_> I have Ubuntu 10.10 and the only desktops that have working WiFi are ubuntu desktop and lubuntu, not kde or lxde, any sugestions?
[22:37] <VCoolio> ikonia: bnovc: http://tinyurl.com/4s9mvl5 for future reference, including bug report links; now I'm off to bed
[22:37] <cerqueira> precisando tirar duvidas da minha area de trabalho ubuntu algm pod me ensinar ??
[22:38] <erUSUL> !br | cerqueira
[22:38] <Abinadai> ryan_, have you set up your router with the right passwords and ip's?  I had a heck of a time getting wifi to work when I first installed Maverick
[22:38] <Logan_WP> !/join #ubuntu-br
[22:38] <pimeko>  everyone
[22:38] <pimeko> hi
[22:38] <Logan_WP> !hi | pimeko
[22:38] <ryan_> yes, everything is correct...
[22:39] <pimeko> Sorry for my english, but i don't know how to access to french IRC
[22:39] <pimeko> help please :)
[22:39] <ryan_> i can't even go anywhere in it to connect to a wireless network though
[22:39] <Logan_WP> !fr | pimeko
[22:39] <pimeko> But how ?
[22:39] <pimeko> how do i join #ubuntu-fr ?
[22:39] <Logan_WP> pimeko: /join #ubuntu-fr
[22:39] <Logan_WP> pimeko: type that
[22:39] <DaGeek247> pimekeo /join ubuntu-fr
[22:39] <Abinadai> ryan_, can you see your network?
[22:40] <pimeko> Thanks it works :D
[22:40] <pimeko> good night
[22:40] <dash> Haha
[22:40] <ryan_> no, nowhere can I find how to connect.
[22:40] <jenka> Is it possible to have multiple domain names with citadel mail server?
[22:40] <ryan_> I'm sure if I was connected with a cable to the router it would be fine but...
[22:41] <ryan_> I do really like the Lubuntu desktop but I also really like KDE. :l
[22:41] <Abinadai> ryan_, again, can you see your network (or any network) for that matter?
[22:42] <Gizmo_the_Great> Lets say I wanted to use the default Ubuntu ISO for installation onto several workstations burnt to CD, but I wanted to add a heap of extra stuff into the CD installation to be also installed by default that included, say, various Firefox plugins, some software packages, add my own custom logos etc, is there an established way to do this? I Googled and found (http://imperial-command.net/urm.html)
[22:42] <Gizmo_the_Great> but nothing further?
[22:42] <jenka> Is it possible to have multiple domain names with citadel mail server?
[22:42] <mongy> !remastersys | Gizmo_the_Great
[22:42] <mongy> ugh
[22:42] <KB1JWQ> jenka: Citadel?
[22:42] <ryan_> No, no network will shot up
[22:42] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, remastersys then
[22:42] <DaGeek247> !rmaster
[22:42] <jenka> KB1JWQ: yes?
[22:43] <DaGeek247> !remaster
[22:43] <KB1JWQ> jenka: AH, hadn't heard of that.  Yes, it supports multiple domains.
[22:43] <DaGeek247> :)
[22:43] <marc_> is there a firewall for ubuntu anyone.. there is one for mint
[22:43] <Logan_WP> !firewall | marc_
[22:43] <jenka> KB1JWQ: Ok, but then you dosnt know how to enable it? I cant figure it out :S
[22:43] <mongy> DaGeek247, doesnt include remastersys, which imho, wins hands down
[22:44] <DaGeek247> oh
[22:44] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: DaGeek247 thanks, both. I will look at those
[22:44] <marc_> Logan_WP: Thankyou
[22:44] <mongy> DaGeek247, I was looking for a more specific ! : )
[22:44] <Logan_WP> marc_: you're welcome
[22:44] <KB1JWQ> jenka: It's under Directory Domains.  Then on a per user basis define any and all domains they should have accounts on.
[22:44] <psywiped> is there a ubuntu server channel?
[22:44] <KB1JWQ> psywiped: #ubuntu-server
[22:46] <DaGeek247> brisingr! hai!
[22:46] <brisingr> hi
[22:46] <arbitrary> So, I can't boot from a liveCD.
[22:46] <jenka> KB1JWQ: Ok, so should I add my domains under Directory domains.. I had added them to Local host aliases..
[22:46] <arbitrary> Guys, I need a way to run fsck on my Ubuntu partition without liveCD or logging into Ubuntu.
[22:47] <enska> could some help me bit? my 10.10. acts oddly. all processes are multiplying massive... what could cause that?
[22:47] <NixGeek> arbitrary: live usb
[22:47] <enska> i got every processes now about over 10
[22:47] <arbitrary> NixGeek: I have no idea how to go about that.
[22:47] <NixGeek> !usb | arbitrary
[22:47] <zachlr> trying to use "blkid -o value -s UUID /media/..." to generate a uuid for a device, but it won't print anything.
[22:48] <jacekowski> hi, i have plymouth problem, instead of nice splash i have text one
[22:48] <jacekowski> on boot
[22:48] <jacekowski> on shutdown splash is correct
[22:48] <ryan_> what are some desktop environments like kde and lxde for ubuntu?
[22:49] <jacekowski> fluxbox
[22:49] <jacekowski> xfce
[22:49] <jacekowski> gnome
[22:49] <jacekowski> openbox
[22:49] <FloodBot2> jacekowski: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <jacekowski> fvwm
[22:49] <zillar> jacekowski: openbox, fluxbox and fvwm arent desktop environments
[22:49] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: unless I'm mistaken, the RemasterSys facility creates copies of your own installed system or a backup of it. It doesn't start with the official Ubuntu ISo and then allow you to change it, or does it?
[22:50] <ryan_> thankss
[22:50] <jacekowski> fvwm is
[22:50] <johntramp> hi.  usually when loading flash video from a web browser it would create a file /tmp/FLASH* but since updating adobe-flashplugin it doesnt seem to be there anymore. does anyone know where i can find the temp files now?
[22:50] <mongy> jacekowski, oddly enough, I have am 'ugly' splash on boot and how it should be on shutdown IF I have my battery inserted in my laptop.  I take it out, its ok (Dont ask me?)
[22:50] <minimec> ryan_: enlightenment e17 is a nice joice. Available in 10.10 package 'e17'.
[22:50] <jacekowski> mongy: well, i managed to get something on the screen
[22:51] <jacekowski> instead of having nothing
[22:51] <minimec> ryan_: Imho the best dualscreen solution.
[22:51] <jacekowski> but it looks like there is correct splash in initrd
[22:51] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great,  it accomplishes the same task
[22:51] <Younder> I have installed apache2, PHP5 and postgresql , php-pgsql and phppgadmin. I can run my html file under /var/www. Then I write a /var/www/journa/index.php and the file is interpreted as html. (View source shows that the PHP code is still there.) What is happening?
[22:51] <ryan_> alright thanks
[22:51] <Younder> phppgadmin works
[22:52] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, he wants to change what the default is, so he might as well use remastersys.  and its a fresh default install if he doesnt copy his home to /etc/skel
[22:52] <robert-brown> why do people say that ubuntu is for noobs
[22:52] <robert-brown> :(
[22:52] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: you say you prefer it. What makes you prefer it over the other way?
[22:52] <Younder> robert-brown, because the installation is so simple.
[22:53] <ryan_> sorry but does anyone know a website with all the ubuntu desktop environments?
[22:53] <robert-brown> Younder: It's easy with other Lunices, too
[22:53] <robert-brown> such as debian red hat etc etc
[22:53] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great,  its what I use to install a customised ubuntu for my friends.. I make it in a vm at my place to save time there...
[22:53] <brisingr> robert-brown: or because many people try it and eventually switch to more specialized distributions
[22:53] <jacekowski> ryan_: there is too many of them
[22:53] <robert-brown> Why ould they switch Bridge|A
[22:53] <reed1> Younder: is it localhost/journa/index.php ? is your apache running ?
[22:53] <ryan_> even for a site to name them?
[22:53] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, prefer it because its easy, quick and works.
[22:53] <robert-brown> brisingr:
[22:53] <jacekowski> ryan_: yes
[22:53] <ryan_> I wanna try as many as I can
[22:53] <Younder> robert-brown, Well Ubuntu doen't have the developer tools installed pr default
[22:54] <ryan_> what would I search to find some then? :\
[22:54] <Younder> reed1, yes
[22:54] <jacekowski> ryan_: there is probably more than 100 of them
[22:54] <Younder> reed1, it serves the index.html under /var/www
[22:54] <jacekowski> more or less advanced
[22:54] <enska> any one got any idea for that processes breeding like rabbits problem?
[22:54] <Younder> reed1, it also runs phppgadmin (a PHP program)
[22:55] <ikonia> enska: what process is it ?
[22:55] <enska> ikonia: all of them... atleast mostly
[22:55] <jacekowski> forkbomb?
[22:55] <ikonia> enska: give me an example ?
[22:55] <SpaceDuck_> if you mount a FTP is it always connected until unmounted? Will it disconnect when idle or something?
[22:55] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: so lets say I created a new VM and installed Ubuntu "out of the box" with my user account being called "God" (for arguments sake). I could then install RemasterSys in the VM, add, remove and customise and then create an ISO of that system that still includes my God username. If so, when I deploy it to ten different computers each having different hardware etc, how does it adjust to...
[22:55] <Gizmo_the_Great> ...take those changes into account?
[22:56] <Younder> reed1, but it loads /var/www/Journal/index.php as though it was a html file without processing the PHP scriptlets.
[22:56] <ryan_> what environment is pcliunuxos if anyone knows?
[22:56] <reed1> Younder: have you tried single file contains <?php phpinfo() ?>
[22:56] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great,  it uses it as a base to create a custom installation
[22:56] <enska> ikonia: ok. keyring, apt-check, etc etc. more than 15 times
[22:56] <erUSUL> ryan_: ##linux may know
[22:56] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, its basically ubuntu installer with a different set of packages.
[22:56] <jenka> Is there anyway to get citadel running with multiple domain names??
[22:56] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: OK, so it would still optimise the installation for the hardware it was being installed upon?
[22:56] <Younder> reed1, no, I can try
[22:56] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, yes
[22:57] <ikonia> enska: how are you seeing these multiple processes ?
[22:57] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: OK, cool. Makes sense. I will check it out. Many thanks
[22:57] <enska> ikonia: by ps aux and resource monitor
[22:57] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, and if you want default users homes to be same as yours, copy it to /etc/skel
[22:57] <ikonia> enska: if you do "top" do you see multiple instances of these processes
[22:58] <StevenR> Hi. My maverick box won't unlock the screensaver. It doesn't show the password dialog? Is there a way I can kill the screensaver/break the lock somehow? I've got ssh and sudo access. I'd prefer not to kill the box, I've got a number of encoding jobs running.
[22:58] <marc_> Gizmo_the_Great, can be for installed application to make a liveusb without persistance?
[22:58] <StevenR> the box isn't under particular load. It's responsive enough via cli
[22:58] <enska> ikonia: yes and they take different amount of memory
[22:58] <Younder> reed1, it works!
[22:59] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, tip, if you use grub2 to boot iso's on a stick like me, install lupin-casper in the vm you are remastering...
[22:59] <reed1> Younder: ensure your tag is <?php blah() ?> instead of <? blah() ?>
[22:59] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, if you burn it to stick with usb-creator etc, then its fine as is..
[22:59] <ikonia> enska: that's most odd, are they all present when you start the machine, or do they appear once you try to use them ?
[23:00] <enska> ikonia: they start to appear
[23:00] <ryan_> thanks for the help guys! I found a lit
[23:00] <ryan_> lot*
[23:00] <Younder> reed1, DUH! You are right I had written <PHP? instead of <?PHP. It works now.. Thanks!
[23:00] <ikonia> enska: they start to appear as you use them ?
[23:01] <enska> when x boots up there is some processes and then they start to breed...
[23:01] <goltoof> who
[23:01] <ikonia> enska: try booting without X and using apt-get for example, see how many it spawns
[23:02] <Noeltorious> not sure why my away annouced pretty odd
[23:02] <needhelp1> i install nvidia drivers earlier today, and they suck. How can i unistall these and revert back ?
[23:03] <jacekowski> needhelp1: nouveau drivers are worse
[23:03] <ikonia> needhelp1: how did you install the drivers
[23:03] <goltoof> !nvidia
[23:03] <needhelp1> what ever i was using before this, the default drive it installed, was better
[23:04] <needhelp1> ikonia, i tried to enable enhanced graphics, it said i needed to install the nvidia drivers .. intalled, rebooted
[23:04] <needhelp1> suckville
[23:04] <ikonia> needhelp1: ok, open that same gui and disable them
[23:04] <needhelp1> ikonia, i was never able to enable them lol
[23:04] <ikonia> needhelp1: ok, so then you are not using them, and they don't "suck" then
[23:04] <GI_Jack> wow transmaggedon likes to choke on big files and windows media
[23:05] <soreau> What's an easy way to see and test available fonts?
[23:05] <needhelp1> ikonia, it shows the new nvidia menu for settings and they are enabled
[23:05] <needhelp1> ikonia, and there is a huge difference
[23:05] <ikonia> needhelp1: how do you know they are enabled, when you've just said you couldn't enable them
[23:05] <ikonia> soreau: can't you do an fc-config (or conf) -l ? to list them
[23:05] <needhelp1> ikonia, i was able to enable the nvidia graphic settings, i never had the chance to enable the enhanced graphics because.. well it looks horrible
[23:06] <ikonia> needhelp1: ok, so go to that menu and click remove the check box that says enable
[23:06] <needhelp1> ikonia, its turned off
[23:06] <ikonia> needhelp1: then they are not enabled
[23:06] <marc_> times like these when a backup file must be made prior to messing huh
[23:06] <needhelp1> ikonia, i just enabled them and it looks the same
[23:06] <Abinadai> can someone give me the website that helps with fprint fingerprint readers?
[23:07] <ikonia> needhelp1: if you want to be certain, disable it in the gui and remove the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:07] <ikonia> needhelp1: reboot and it will stop the nvidia drivers from being available for use
[23:07] <agarwal1975> i'm having trouble installing django and mod_wsgi on my new Ubuntu 10.10 server.
[23:07] <needhelp1> pretty much everything that deals with the graphics, i get this error .. It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool.  Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?
[23:07] <soreau> ikonia: fc-list lists them at least but I wanted to load and test them on some text
[23:07] <ikonia> needhelp1: ok, so that means it's NOT using the nvidia drivers
[23:08] <ikonia> soreau: ahh, not sure of a tool to do that
[23:08] <needhelp1> ikonia, im fairly certian it is
[23:08] <agarwal1975> doing apt-get install libapache2-mod-wsgi forces install of python3.1, but django itself requires python < 2.7.
[23:08] <needhelp1> ikonia, can i check from CLI?
[23:08] <ikonia> needhelp1: I'm telling you it's not, if the 3d extensions are not loaded, it's not using them
[23:08] <soreau> ikonia: I guess I'll just try oo writer or something
[23:08] <ikonia> soreau: dull, but I guess it works
[23:08] <needhelp1> ikonia, they are enabled now
[23:08] <ikonia> needhelp1: did you reboot ?
[23:09] <needhelp1> yes
[23:09] <arbitrary> So, there's something wrong with my USB boot.
[23:09] <ikonia> needhelp1: lsmod | grep i nv
[23:09] <ikonia> needhelp1: what do you get
[23:10] <ikonia> needhelp1: sorry "lsmod | grep -i nv"
[23:10] <needhelp1> desktop:~$ lsmod | grep -i nv
[23:10] <needhelp1> nvidia               7088432  34
[23:10] <needhelp1> agpgart                32011  1 nvidia
[23:10] <needhelp1> sata_nv                19420  3
[23:10] <FloodBot2> needhelp1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <johntramp> i am having problems with adobe-flashplugin 10.2, how can i downgrade back to 10.1?
[23:10] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: one more question (sorry). If I created my system today, using the 10.04 LTS, would I be able to update my base installation to todays date and then create the distro to avoid having to then update all ten computers the minute the base installation finishes? Or does it have to be created using a fresh, un-patched installation?
[23:10] <arbitrary2> USB Boot doesn't work, resets to automatically booting in 10. . . 9. . .
[23:10] <agarwal1975> does anyone know about the django and mod_wsgi dependencies?
[23:11] <ikonia> needhelp1: so that looks like the the properitary drivers are loaded, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please.
[23:11] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, it uses whatever your system is at that time.
[23:11] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: excellent.
[23:11] <suigeneris> what can I do in case of this error? E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:11] <needhelp1> ikonia, do i do . .. gedit /ect/x11/xorg.conf  ?
[23:11] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, thats the point :)
[23:11] <marc_> error code 1 lovely error
[23:11] <ikonia> !pastebinit | needhelp1
[23:12] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: well with the 'full system backup' option, I assumed that to be the case, but I wondered if the distribution aspect was different.
[23:12] <suigeneris> marc_, yea lovely
[23:12] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, you can even stick drivers in there, even if you dont have the hardware for them, like I installed the broadcom wifi driver, because the people I deal with use it...
[23:12] <marc_> suigeneris, your using what to get that error
[23:12] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great,  the 'dist' option.  also, dont forget to use the 'clean' option between tries.
[23:12] <suigeneris> marc_, sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:13] <marc_> suigeneris, looks like something you tried to install got interupted
[23:13] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: cool - is that part of the options when you run it or do you have manually get them yourself and save them somewhere?
[23:13] <marc_> suigeneris, try sudo apt-get --autoconfigure -a
[23:13] <suigeneris> marc_, how can I fix it?
[23:14] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, install it, its just a module that doesnt get used until you have the hardware.
[23:14] <marc_> suigeneris, try my last post
[23:14] <suigeneris> --autoconfigure doesn't exit marc_
[23:14] <needhelp1> ikonia, ok i have pastebinit installed
[23:15] <marc_> suigeneris, try sudo apt-get --configure -a
[23:15] <marc_> my bad
[23:15] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: you have to install the drivers themselves on your base system you mean, yes? If so, how do you do that? I've only ever installed packages and stuff for hardware I have?
[23:15] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, dont use proprietary 3d drivers tho
[23:15] <needhelp1> do i do .. gedit xorg.conf | pastebinit -b   ??
[23:15] <marc_> was thinking about another auto thing
[23:15] <needhelp1> ikonia,
[23:15] <jrib> suigeneris: pastebin in full your command and the output that gave you the original error please
[23:16] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, I just use apt-get install to install bcmwl-kernel-source.  their systems dont like the b43 driver
[23:16] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, it installs it, but its not used if its not needed.
[23:16] <benedict> hi. i use a ubuntu 10.04 minimal install with fluxbox. running teeworlds (a small game) with my normal user is very slow, like 1 fps. running it as sudo works like charm. seems my user has not access to graphic acceleration or simething realted to that. how do i find out what it is?
[23:17] <marc_> suigeneris,  or sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:18] <suigeneris> jrib, http://suigeneris.pastebin.com/Y7PaiEcH
[23:18] <sico> Hi, I booted from live cd, but installer fails.  can i restart the install from another image, say on a usb drive?
[23:18] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: i get ya - so it installs the drivers, but they just sit idle unless there's the hardware there to utilise them. Makes sense. However, it would be quite a task trying to do this for the majority of common hardware? e.g. wireless devices, various network cards etc. Using your example, I'd never have know that was a Broadcom driver, just from the name.
[23:18] <suigeneris> marc_, the same message
[23:19] <benedict> sico: to install from a pen drive you need to follow a special procedure. there is a programm that creates a ubuntu-install-pne drive for you called usb-creator or disk-creator. you will see it in the gnome menus
[23:19] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: though I suppose Ubuntu has drivers for most driver anyway
[23:19] <jacekowski> Gizmo_the_Great: that's why there is a google
[23:19] <needhelp1> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/stP5whQJ
[23:19] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, well you can give them the best of what you want them to have, the rest if upto them, and a lot simpler in the long run
[23:19] <sico> benedict: i have multibootiso (but my computer won't boot from usb)  that's where my image is
[23:20] <needhelp1> ikonia, not sure if its possible but, if im able to just uninstall the nvidia graphics drivers and revert back to my old default drivers, that would be great
[23:20] <Sazpaimon> I need to resolve windows computer names to their link-local ipv6 addresses, as windows does to other windows computers. can this be done?
[23:20] <benedict> sico: also, if oyu go to the ubuntu website, where you choose the image for download you'll also see a how-to for creating an install pen drive
[23:20] <marc_> suigeneris, sudo apt-get -f install
[23:20] <jrib> suigeneris: you're sure that is the complete output?  That's unusual.
[23:21] <minimec> Did you check that? 'low FPS'  benedict: http://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=FAQ
[23:21] <benedict> sico: did you check, if you enable booting from usb in the BIOS? sometimes this needs to be checked...
[23:21] <suigeneris> marc_, the same message there too
[23:21] <sico> benedict: yup, not there
[23:21] <benedict> sico: i am not sure if i understood you correctly. but just copying the image to your pendrive win't do it....
[23:21] <marc_> suigeneris, dpkg --configure -a
[23:21] <suigeneris> jrib, there are many lines, do you want me to pastebin all of them?
[23:21] <jrib> suigeneris: yes
[23:21] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: but doesn't this bring us back to my original query. The default CD has most drivers for most things, unusual exceptions aside. When you install the CD to your base system, it installs what it thinks you need.  Is that not the case or have I misunderstood?
[23:22] <jrib> suigeneris: I don't pay the hosting bill for pastebin :P
[23:22] <needhelp1> ikonia, still there?
[23:22] <schnuffle> Gizmo_the_Great: the CD comes with all available drivers for the kernel used
[23:22] <sico> benedict: the image is on usb stick, i am booted in live mode (via cd).   i want to start the installer from the usb drive while booted live from cd?
[23:23] <wherever> Installing problem - half installed mapserver
[23:23] <needhelp1> anyone here able to assist me with uninstalling the nvidia graphics drivers so i can revert back to my default graphics drivers
[23:23] <skullboy> how do i boot ubuntu from ram
[23:24] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, yes ubuntu comes with builtin stuff, but like I said, the people I deal with use chipsets that the builtin drivers dont work....I have to install the non-free driver, so I just install it anyway, and let it come up itself when its needed
[23:24] <jrib> needhelp1: same way you installed them.  Use System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers
[23:24] <schnuffle> needhelp1: uninstall the nvidia drive and the run Xorg -configure
[23:24] <arbitrary2> NixGeek ping
[23:24] <Gizmo_the_Great> schnuffle: i know, but when the distro is installed, only the required drivers are actually copied to the system (I thought). Therefore, if using RemasterSys to make distributable copies of Ubuntu that may be installed on a variety of different systems, it won't have the drivers included, whereas the CD installation would.
[23:24] <wherever> Ubuntu thinks it is installed, but cgi- bin  the file is not anywher
[23:24] <benedict> sico: ah, ok now i understand what you want to do.... i guess this is beyond my understanding. i know how to make pendrives (multi-)bootable, this is why i reacted to you. why do you want to do such a "weired" procuedure. why do you thinkt the installer from pen drive will be better than the one from cd.
[23:24] <jrib> wherever: huh?
[23:24] <wherever> is there a auto install mapserver
[23:24] <marc_> suigeneris, ? how is it going
[23:24] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, think of it like linux mint with all codecs installed.... like that.
[23:24] <schnuffle> Gizmo_the_Great: No all the driver get copied, drivers are part of the kernel
[23:25] <jrib> wherever: mapserver seems to be in the repositories
[23:25] <jccorrea> hi everyone
[23:25] <bluefirex> is there something like notepad++ (windows) for ubuntu?
[23:25] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, in fact, its what that pinguyos distro uses.
[23:25] <skullboy> how do i inject ubuntu into the ram
[23:25] <suigeneris> marc_, I'm waiting for the output
[23:25] <jccorrea> anyone already install linux in a computer with vortex processor?
[23:25] <arbitrary2> So guys, I installed the USBboot thing with UNetbootin but when I boot from USB I just get a repeating "Automatically booting in . . ." on Default, which is the only option.
[23:26] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: schnuffle OK, I think I understand. So it doesn't matter what system Ubuntu is installed on, the generic drivers are always part of the used kernel?
[23:26] <marc_> arbitrary2, press enter?
[23:26] <benedict> sico: maybe you have a look at the alterante installer or even the minimal installer.
[23:26] <arbitrary2> marc - that just makes the counter reset.
[23:26] <jccorrea> i've a challenge to install that ..i would like to know if has any experience with it
[23:26] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: schnuffle just the proprietory ones that aren't
[23:26] <schnuffle> Gizmo_the_Great: Yes
[23:26] <jccorrea> i'm reading about x-linux
[23:27] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, at the end of the day, I just use to have an ubuntu install, but without the apps I dont want, and with the apps I do, with their ppa's etc, and even the themes I wanna use, instead of.  its still ubuntu
[23:27] <arbitrary2> Are there issues with LiveUSBs/CDs of 10.10?
[23:27] <suigeneris> jrib, http://suigeneris.pastebin.com/Tc9K3JXa
[23:27] <sabag> can someone help me with ubuntu 10.10
[23:27] <skullboy> how do i inject ubuntu into the ram
[23:27] <sabag> ?
[23:27] <goltoof> !ask
[23:27] <wherever> yes, mapserver downloaded from repositories, log says half installed - what is that?
[23:27] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: so your boradcom driver example - that particulr one is a propriatroy one, like the NVIDIA drivers for graphics cards?
[23:27] <schnuffle> Gizmo_the_Great: And there are driver that only got part to the kernel that is newer than the one used in ubuntu, so you'll need to update the kernel to get them supported
[23:28] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, not sure on the nvidia one, but the ATI one its best not to use in a remastersys.. but broadcom is ok
[23:28] <sabag> I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and now it stack during startup
[23:28] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, ATI overwrites some files
[23:29] <skullboy> anyone know how to inject ubuntu 10.10 into the ram
[23:29] <minimec> Gizmo_the_Great: May I add something... ;) What you said is correct and it gives you that nice possibility to add multiple kernels to one install. As the 2.6.35 kernel might not yet have the newest dirvers, 2.6.38 has. When booting your machine you can decide which kernel you load ;)
[23:29] <maco> skullboy: the toram boot command, though ive heard rumours it no longer works.  worth a try though
[23:29] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great,  I just use remastersys to gimme a base install to where I can just quickly setup their machine and any proprietary driver they need later on
[23:29] <Gizmo_the_Great> schnuffle: mongy OK, I think I am there. Let me recap - Create VM from 10.04 LTS CD. Update everything. INstall whatever additional software I want. Edit any logos and themes. Include any PROPRIATORY drivers that I might need (apart from ATI). Run RemasterSysy using CLEAN option. Done?
[23:29] <jrib> suigeneris: run it with LANGUAGE=C LANG=C  so I can understand it :)  But also pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.35-23-generic.postinst and /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic.postinst
[23:29] <benedict> !paste
[23:30] <sico> benedict: thanks though :D
[23:30] <mark_> Does Msn have a Linux version?
[23:30] <wherever> what does half installed mean?
[23:30] <ChesterX> mark_: ams
[23:30] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, sudo remastersys dist , then before you run it again, clean
[23:30] <ChesterX> amsn
[23:30] <skullboy> maco: so do i do that
[23:30] <ExplodingPiglets> anybody know any good flash animation software for ubuntu?
[23:30] <ChesterX> I would recommend pidgin
[23:30] <sico> benedict: and i think you are missing my point.
[23:30] <mark_> Downloadable from Internet, or Software Center?
[23:30] <twitch> !empathy | wherever
[23:31] <jrib> wherever: pastebin what happened when you installed mapserver
[23:31] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, by default it will end up in /home/remastersys/remastersys  you can edit the config tho
[23:31] <maco> skullboy: when you boot, add "toram" to the kernel boot line. this requires hitting the keyboard when it asks if you want to try or install
[23:31] <eyceberg> What audio program that is the most stable that can load vsti for ubuntu?
[23:31] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: So step one will create the distro. Before I run it again to create another distro (say after updating my vase system), use the clean option. Yes?
[23:31] <jccorrea> anyone install linux in a box with Vortex86SX – 300 MHz
[23:31] <jccorrea> ??
[23:31] <ChesterX> Hi everyone, I am looking for a working alternative to handbrake on ubuntu-netbook 10.10 . Any suggestions?
[23:31] <wherever> will get emapathy,
[23:31] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, yes
[23:31] <benedict> sico: the normalinstaller didn't work for me either. the aternate one did... it will result in the exact same system in the end... hope i could help you a bit. to be honest i think there will be a better way than your cd-pendrive way... but if you know your way around feel free ;)
[23:31] <suigeneris> jrib, http://suigeneris.pastebin.com/4q3U1b8C
[23:31] <jrib> ChesterX: what's wrong with handbrake?
[23:31] <Gizmo_the_Great> mongy: superb. You have been very helpful. Many thanks for your time.
[23:32] <suigeneris> ChesterX, what do you want to do?
[23:32] <mark_> What is a site For Xubuntu Themes?
[23:32] <mongy> Gizmo_the_Great, play around, thats what vm's are for
[23:32] <ChesterX> jrib, It takes forever and afterwards it tells me the DVD could be red because of CSS :-/
[23:32] <erUSUL> eyceberg: ask in #ubuntustudio
[23:32] <eyceberg> awesome , thank you!
[23:32] <jrib> ChesterX: you just want to rip (and transcode) a dvd movie?
[23:33] <needhelp1> jrib,  schnuffle that worked thanks :)
[23:33] <LinuxGuy2009> Other than a boost in gaming performance, is there any benefit of building a linux based machine with like 6 or 8 GB of RAM? Is there any tricks to boost cache or something of that nature? Ive heard of using it to run a virtual machine at much faster speed than off a HDD but thats about it.
[23:33] <stevomanu> yo all
[23:33] <Abinadai> hi..can someone point me to the x version screensavers.  I can't seem to find them in the package manager.
[23:33] <arbitrary2> Anybody. Any ideas on what could go wrong that my USB boot doesn't even start booting?
[23:33] <sico> benedict: the normal installer works, the cd it's on doesn't  (it boots to live mode (which i'm using now))  but installer fails.   so i'm just trying to find a way to start the install process from an iso image
[23:33] <jrib> Abinadai: what do you mean?
[23:33] <sabag> I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and now it stack during startup
[23:33] <NixGeek> mark_: how about http://xfce-look.org/
[23:33] <jrib> sabag: stuck where?
[23:33] <sabag> pleas help
[23:34] <arbitrary2> NixGeek: It didn't work.
[23:34] <ChesterX> jrib, first get an .iso and maybe later transcode it (I formerly used dvdshrink on windows, but until now didn t need it in Ubuntu)
[23:34] <NixGeek> arbitrary2: it wasn't done right, or you have a corrupt iso iamge
[23:34] <sabag> after ubuntu logo i see black screen
[23:34] <schnuffle> LinuxGuy2009: for vm performance tere are mostly two limiting factors: memory and io speed. So you get the most vms wit a good hardwrae 10 raid
[23:34] <ChesterX> suigeneris, backup an old video game bonus dvd
[23:34] <sico> benedict: from an*other iso image
[23:34] <Abinadai> jrib I had some screensavers in my VB that had the Matrix one in it.  Maverick comes with one like it but I don't like the way it looks or acts.
[23:34] <marc_> sabag, how long do you wait
[23:34] <jrib> ChesterX: I'm partial to vobcopy to backup the DVDs.  If you just want a .iso, then why not use dd?  I'll have ubottu send you a page about DVD ripping that may offer you more options
[23:34] <jrib> !dvd | ChesterX
[23:34] <arbitrary2> NixGeek: I cannot boot from the disc on my computer - but my friend's computer can.
[23:35] <stevomanu> i am stuck on the aireplay-ng -1 channel issue i have  kernel 2.6.35-25 installed an thats ment to fix it but its still the same
[23:35] <Lint> I wonder which idiot labelled Gnumeric as 'scientific' application
[23:35] <schnuffle> ChesterX: a good GUI for that is ogmrip
[23:35] <NixGeek> arbitrary2: okay, change the boot order in bios so usb is first
[23:35] <jrib> ChesterX: erm, I wanted ubottu to send: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/RippingDVDs
[23:35] <mark_> Is there an iTunes for Linux?
[23:35] <sabag> the dotes finished , then i waited for few nimutes
[23:35] <arbitrary2> NixGeek: I'm just hitting the boot menu and selecting USB from there.
[23:35] <ChesterX> jrib, I ll read it thank you
[23:35] <wasutton3-Laptop> is there a way to read the input of a serial port in hex?
[23:35] <d-devil> stevomanu : i have some problem...
[23:35] <ChesterX> schnuffle, thanks :D guis always make life easier ^^
[23:36] <LinuxGuy2009> schnuffle: No Ive actually heard of people copying the virtual machine to /dev/shm and then running it from there. Its basically a ramdrive. As long as the VM isnt too big in size where it will fit into ram.
[23:36] <jrib> !who | sabag
[23:36] <marc_> Point and click generation lol
[23:36] <twitch> !itunes | mark_
[23:36] <stevomanu> @ d-devil please explain or a link
[23:36] <jrib> sabag: can you press ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a login?
[23:36] <LinuxGuy2009> schnuffle: Just wasnt sure if there were other benefits or ways to put it to use.
[23:36] <sLaeYa> I have a linux server and would like to send a single file out to all my windows based pcs on my network. Can anyone suggest a good method
[23:36] <stevomanu> @d-devil miss red message
[23:36] <d-devil> i not have idea where problem
[23:36] <benedict> can some1 help me to investigate my long boot times? my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/565607/ have a look at line 647 (mounting ext3 takes more than 100 seconds!!!) and line 713 and following (take me additional 20 sec). i allread did fsch.ext3 to my both partitons (/ ant /home) from my second ubuntu installed on the same hdd.
[23:36] <suigeneris> jrib, http://pastebin.com/mGDsq3rr and http://pastebin.com/g6Vn0Frn
[23:36] <schnuffle> LinuxGuy2009: of course that can be done if you have enough memory
[23:37] <arbitrary2> NixGeek: Issue is, I have one option when entering the USB's boot menu, which is "Default". It says automatically booting in 10, counts down, goes back to ten. Selecting enter causes the counter to reset.
[23:37] <wherever> argh, empathy is on system but can't launch it - hmm could use tips on installing
[23:37] <jrib> sLaeYa: python -m SimpleHTTPServer 1234    (then you can use a web browser on the windows machines)
[23:37] <benedict> sico: why don't you sue the normal installer?
[23:37] <twitch> benedict: view your hdd via System->Admin->Disk Util
[23:37] <sabag> jrib:never tried , i am novice , working now on safe mode
[23:37] <jrib> sabag: go to System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers
[23:38] <LinuxGuy2009> schnuffle: I currently have just 2GB which seems to be plenty for Ubuntu but am considering buying another 4GB to make a total of 6GB. But Im wondering if it would be a complete wast of money if Ubuntu doesnt put it to use.
[23:38] <wherever> OK how do I open empathy?
[23:38] <zamyr> hola buenas noches
[23:38] <benedict> twitch: twitch i installed minimal ubuntu 10.04 and use fluxbox. can you tell me the command to get the same result?
[23:38] <sLaeYa> jrib, I was really wanting to do this frequently and only from the server, not individually on each machine. does that make sense ?
[23:38] <sabag> jrib: thare is nothing ther
[23:38] <suigeneris> !es | zamyr
[23:38] <jrib> suigeneris: what is in /etc/kernel/postinst.d/?
[23:38] <sLaeYa> or would I be better batching on win ?
[23:38] <zamyr> alguien me puede ayudar con mi conexion inalambrica en kubuntu 1010
[23:39] <sabag> jrib: never used on this system...
[23:39] <Lint> !pt
[23:39] <NixGeek> arbitrary2: and you said it boots on your friends computer fine?
[23:39] <schnuffle> LinuxGuy2009: the vfs uses any RAM as cache so wit time you'll see the RAM being occupied more and more. Then you can mount your /tmp into RAM ....
[23:39] <twitch> !info gnome-disk-utility | benedict
[23:39] <suigeneris> jrib, dkms  initramfs-tools  nvidia-common  pm-utils  update-notifier  zz-update-grub
[23:39] <arbitrary2> NixGeek: The CD does - haven't tried the USB.
[23:39] <jrib> sLaeYa: then you might ask ##windows what you can do to the windows boxes so you can control them
[23:39] <suigeneris> jrib, update-notifier is a symlink
[23:39] <minimec> LinuxGuy2009: You would have to run the 64bit version. If you are working with Virtualmachines or with multimedia stuff like video editing or music encording, it might help.
[23:40] <Abinadai> can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong here>>>>  sudo apt-get install xscreensavers
[23:40] <jrib> sabag: what video card do you have?
[23:40] <Lint> which is best GIT gui (standalone)?
[23:40] <benedict> twitch: thank you. i'll install view the output and report back
[23:40] <sLaeYa> jrib, thanks for your help
[23:40] <NixGeek> arbitrary2: then it's probably a problem with the usb
[23:40] <schnuffle> LinuxGuy2009: But for a normal Desktop its a waste, but for video editing, virtualization tere isn't such a thing like too muc RAM :)
[23:40] <sabag> onboard, asus , worked fine on 10.04
[23:40] <arbitrary2> Grah.
[23:41] <suigeneris> Abinadai, nothing wrong there
[23:41] <arbitrary2> NixGeek: This is not impossible. It's always been uncooperative.
[23:41] <Lint> Git. Ubuntu. GUI. ??
[23:42] <gordonjcp> Lint: gitg?
[23:42] <suigeneris> Abinadai, except it's xscreensaver, not xscreensavers
[23:42] <sabag> jrib: onboard model asus p5vd2-mx se
[23:42] <Abinadai> suigeneris, I'm getting this when I execute the command>>>> E: Unable to locate package xscreensavers
[23:42] <jrib> suigeneris: I have no experience troubleshooting these particular scripts, but I suggest adding "set -x" as the second line of all of those /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ scripts that are actually bash scripts (use the first line to tell).  Let me know if any are not bash scripts.
[23:42] <NixGeek> arbitrary2: i'd reccommend formatting it to fat32 and trying it again
[23:42] <jrib> sabag: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:42] <Abinadai> suigeneris, gotcha
[23:43] <jrib> suigeneris: /bin/sh should be ok too
[23:43] <stevomanu> i am stuck on the aireplay-ng -1 channel issue i have kernel 2.6.35-25 installed an thats ment to fix it but its still the same
[23:43] <sabag> this massege look femiliar
[23:43] <ExplodingPiglets> Any good flash animation programs for ubtuntu?
[23:43] <suigeneris> jrib, all are bash scripts
[23:43] <Abinadai> suigeneris, now it's working!s  thanks :)
[23:43] <arbitrary2> NixGeek: It /is/ fat32, unfortunately. But, there's plenty of other optional problems.
[23:43] <suigeneris> np Abinadai
[23:44] <sabag> jrib:this massage looks femiliar, how i pass it
[23:44] <jrib> suigeneris: alright, add that "set -x" line as the second line, then rerun the apt-get command
[23:44] <jrib> sabag: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:46] <NixGeek> i'd recommend formatting it completely (not a quick format) and then trying again
[23:46] <NixGeek> arbitrary2: i'd recommend formatting it completely (not a quick format) and then trying again
[23:46] <sabag> jrib:finished
[23:46] <jrib> sabag: what was the output?
[23:46] <arbitrary2> NixGeek: Friend offered up their 2gig for that purpose.
[23:46] <t-rask> Does anyone here use TuxGuitar?
[23:46] <sabag> jrib: i show you on private
[23:47] <t-rask> I'm wondering how to get the MIDI playback working on it, if anyone knows how?
[23:47] <suigeneris> jrib, apt-get upgrade?
[23:47] <jrib> sabag: no show me here please
[23:47] <jrib> suigeneris: sure, though reading "man run-parts" suggests we might need to tweak further.  Let's see what happens first
[23:48] <wherever> have empathy now, please repeat contact name
[23:48] <suigeneris> jrib, same error
[23:48] <bencahill> hey guys, I've set up a pptp vpn server as per the instructions here (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-pptp-vpn-server-with-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html), what do I need to forward to the box, tcp 1723, and something with gre/protocol 47?
[23:48] <sabag> Reading package lists... Done
[23:48] <sabag> Building dependency tree
[23:48] <sabag> Reading state information... Done
[23:48] <sabag> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[23:48] <sabag>   kdesudo update-manager-kde
[23:48] <FloodBot2> sabag: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:48] <sabag> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[23:48] <suigeneris> !pastebin | sabag
[23:49] <Guest95209> hi folks..do I need to install any firewall or antivirus to protect from viruses on ubuntu 10.10
[23:49] <benedict> twitch: how can i start it from command line? can you run it and see what process it is? i see it's connected to udsik, but i don't know what parameters to use :(
[23:49] <jrib> sabag: ok, in the future, just the pastebin.com link (http://pastebin.com/1zjN99tm)
[23:49] <suigeneris> jrib, I've to sleep now, I'll bug you later
[23:49] <suigeneris> good night all
[23:49] <benedict> twitch: ahhhh.. ok... got it.. do you want the dump files?
[23:49] <tuxGentoo> holas alguno habla español
[23:50] <tuxGentoo> ??
[23:50] <jrib> suigeneris: note, it's clear now that /etc/kernel/postinst.d/nvidia-common is the issue
[23:50] <Guest95209> hi folks..do I need to install any firewall or antivirus to protect from viruses on ubuntu 10.10
[23:50] <maco> !es | tuxGentoo
[23:50] <sabag> sorry, I am new here
[23:50] <suigeneris> jrib, how so?
[23:50] <eyceberg> Why can i not upgrade from 10.04 - 10.10? it is saying can not calculate update.
[23:51] <sabag> JRIB:sorry
[23:51] <jrib> suigeneris: run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/nvidia-common exited with return code 10  <-- that's the last one that run-parts runs, and then it says "failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d/".  So we (you) need to figure out why that script is failing
[23:51] <Guest95209> do i need to install any forewall program or antivirus to protect privacy on ubuntu 10.10
[23:51] <bencahill> !virus
[23:51] <bencahill> !virus | Guest95209
[23:52] <wherever> Ah well, will return following enlightenment
[23:52] <User_007> Hello Guys, i have some problem with gwibber-service... everytime it refresh it uses 100% of CPU for a while... like 30 seconds, and sometimes it freezes and only can be killed. Anyone have a clue?
[23:52] <jrib> sabag: doesn't seem like there are any issues there
[23:53] <mongy> people with usb keys and access to your system are what you should be worried about !
[23:53] <sabag> jrib: can I go roll back to 10.04?
[23:53] <suigeneris> hmm, it installed successfully. thanks jrib
[23:54] <suigeneris> jrib, ++
[23:54] <suigeneris> good night all
[23:54] <jrib> suigeneris: wait, what did you change?
[23:54] <User_007> btw i use Maverick i386
[23:54] <jrib> sabag: no
[23:54] <Guest95209> thank you buddy...but i case if I need to transfer files from ubuntu to vista using my flash drive..will it effects vista??
[23:54] <suigeneris> jrib, I removed everything nvidia
[23:54] <jrib> suigeneris: I see
[23:54] <suigeneris> jrib, it seems they were obsolete
[23:55] <suigeneris> bye now
[23:55] <sabag> jrib: shold i try reinstall? i am using wubi?
[23:55] <Lint> Guest95209, what will affect vista?
[23:55] <schnuffle> User_007: there seems to be a bug #548540
[23:55] <jrib> sabag: you're using wubi?
[23:55] <Clavin12> Hi. Does anyone know what "SIOCGFFLAGS error: No such device" might mean in relation to my usb wireless adapter?
[23:55] <Guest95209> if I have any viruses on ubuntu..they might effect vista???
[23:56] <sabag> jrib: webi ? this installasion from windows
[23:56] <Lint> Guest95209, viruses don't affect anything until you run them
[23:56] <schnuffle> Guest95209: If you have a virus on linux in theorie it could also alter your windows partition
[23:56] <_pg_> best suggestion for ubuntu deriv geaturing E?
[23:56] <arbitrary2> NixGeek: Definitely something with the flashdrive, because I have a completely different problem this time.
[23:56] <_pg_> featuring*
[23:56] <Guest95209> ohhh
[23:57] <Guest95209> then I might need to install AV program on ubuntu
[23:57] <Clavin12> Hi. Does anyone know what "SIOCGFFLAGS error: No such device" might mean in relation to my usb wireless adapter?
[23:57] <jrib> !repeat | Clavin12
[23:57] <User_007> schnuffle, kind of... i am on Maverick.. it would be solved so
[23:57] <schnuffle> Guest95209: but for the moment the chance that you catch a virus with vista is a lot greater
[23:58] <jrib> Guest95209: you don't need an anti-virus, this isn't windows.  Just use your system and when you install software, only install it from the repositories (using APT)
[23:58] <jrib> !software > Guest95209
[23:58] <User_007> schnuffle i tried to install that version on maverick, but it stuck on some dependencies
[23:58] <Lint> guest95209, Vista cannot catch viruses
[23:58] <Guest95209> yaa I know..but what I am doing is I installed ubuntu 10.10 using WUBI..now I am running both OS on C drive it self
[23:58] <jrib> sabag: and right now you're in X through recovery mode?  or?
[23:58] <jrib> Guest95209: doesn't matter
[23:58] <schnuffle> Lint: My experience proves you wrong
[23:59] <Aciago> hi
[23:59] <ink3d> Lint: Vista is a virus :P
[23:59] <sabag> jrib:in am in ubuntu 10.10 savemode
[23:59] <mongy> here we go
[23:59] <schnuffle> :)