[08:39] <Novus> anyone use nettalk?
[08:39] <piet> no, since i tried several times, and it does not come back anymore
[08:40] <iceroot> sgo11: ah ok, sorry then i got it wrong
[08:40] <dr_willis> this is when having a spare pc to ssh in from is worth big money.. or even an android phone
[08:42] <sgo11> iceroot, ^_^ I just don't know why nobody replies me in that bug. that was the first time I opened a bug. It stops me opening another one since I feel it's useless to open a bug if nobody cares.
[08:44] <iceroot> sgo11: i am always joining #ubuntu-bugs and ask there if someone can have a look, normally you will get "we need more information", "can you test xy and post the result on the bug" and so on
[08:44] <iceroot> sgo11: but its always the best way to open a bug when you are facing a bug
[08:45] <dr_willis> you got X # of  people posting bugs... and only X/10000 who can work on them.. ;)
[08:45] <Fuzzles>  would ubuntu run on a 1gb netbook?
[08:45] <dr_willis> Fuzzles:  it runs on mine.
[08:45] <dr_willis> Fuzzles:  i tend to use Lubuntu on netbooks.
[08:45] <sgo11> iceroot, thanks for telling me that channel. I will try it. :)
[08:45] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, yes, but you'd probably enjoy xubuntu or lubuntu even more ...
[08:46] <Fuzzles> dr_willis, cfhowlett thanks its for my girlfriend she cant stand windows starter :P
[08:48] <dr_willis> id definatly try lubuntu then
[08:49] <Fuzzles> dr_willis, the problem is shes needs more features which i know lubuntu dont work as a full computer really
[08:51] <dr_willis> features such as?
[08:51] <AcidRain> W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[08:51] <AcidRain> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[08:51] <AcidRain> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:51] <AcidRain> anybody else get this?
[08:52] <dr_willis> your ppa is down, o dosent have  support for your release
[08:52] <AcidRain> dr_willis, is it ok if i remove this ppa?
[08:52] <dr_willis> AcidRain:  if you have no idea what its for.. why do you have it.
[08:52] <AcidRain> dr_willis, it looks to me it the main one
[08:52] <dr_willis>  slicer/ppa  i dont think is a main one...
[08:53] <OerHeks> AcidRain, no precise candidate >> https://launchpad.net/~slicer/+archive/ppa
[08:53] <dward> so Buran is the system is going to start 2 seconds faster? or 2 times faster?
[08:53] <Bergcube> Ubuntu 12.10.  When I open some (but not all) MKV files in Totem nothing happens. Totem just stands at 0 seconds, idling. I've been googling, but hasn't come any closer to a solution. I know I could probably get it playing in VLC or some other player, but I'd prefer to fix Totem. Any tips?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> Bergcube, have you installed mkv codecs?
[08:54] <Bergcube> cfhowlett ~ Not sure to be honest.  Do you happen to know the package name?  I can check it right away.
[08:54] <cfhowlett> Bergcube, just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:55] <histo> !codecs | Bergcube
[08:55] <Bergcube> cfhowlett, Yeah, I did that.
[08:55] <F3Speech> When I run "rm -vrf <folderorfiles> from a mounted xfs filesystem nothing happens, no errors or no deletions. Anyone any ideas why? I can see the same folder via a samba share and can rightclick delete from windows removing the folder/file easily.
[08:55] <Novus> how do in stall a driver in terminal?
[08:56] <Novus> make -- make install?
[08:57] <dr_willis> Novus:  what driver
[08:57] <cfhowlett> !paste > me
[08:57] <Novus> rtl8187
[08:57] <dr_willis> Novus:  that a wireless card or what?
[08:57] <Matt__> Hi
[08:57] <Novus> yeas
[08:58] <Novus> my main computer is router lan lin connected to that
[08:58] <Novus> I have a wifi card that putw out wireless sig
[08:58] <dr_willis> for most wifi cards if the drivers are not included - you use the addational-drivers tool to  download/install the needed drivers
[08:58] <Novus> I am going to connect that to 2nd desktop via wireless
[08:58] <Novus> i have the driver
[08:59] <dward> that is included in compat-drivers
[08:59] <dr_willis> what do you have EXCATLY?
[08:59] <dr_willis> the drivers are most likely in the repos.
[08:59] <dward> rtl8187 is included in compat-wireless
[08:59] <Novus> I cannot get to repos until I connect to internet
[09:00] <dward> *compat-drivers i mean
[09:00] <dr_willis> Novus:  and you cant compile source code without the extra pacjages either.
[09:00] <dward> compat-drivers is included in the standard ubuntu install
[09:00] <dr_willis> so his card should just work. ;)
[09:00] <dward> yep
[09:01] <histo> !offline
[09:02] <Novus> wow
[09:02] <Novus> I been away from ubuntu and griping about it for far to long
[09:02] <Novus> they fixed every glitch (aside from nvidia) I have had so far
[09:03] <dr_willis> Think how good it would be if all the HW makers provided better support..
[09:03] <dr_willis> or stopped having annoying legal limitations on their junk
[09:03] <the_dark_knight> Hi, how do I check if my system is 32bit or 64bit?
[09:03] <llutz> the_dark_knight: uname -m
[09:04] <kluejay> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu with an encrypted home folder in a separate /home partition. Since I reset the EFI store on the device I can no longer boot Ubuntu. I want to re install. How can I make a fresh installation use my existing encrypted home folder?
[09:07] <Novus> ok got internet
[09:08] <kluejay> Anyone?
[09:09] <dr_willis> I never use encrypted stuff.. so i got nothing...
[09:09] <iceroot> kluejay: tell the installer (partition part) to use sdXY as home without reformating it
[09:09] <cfhowlett> How do I change the login icon in Ubuntustudio 12.04  http://imagebin.org/249823
[09:09] <Novus> sudo apt-get install nvidia current?
[09:09] <kluejay> iceroot: Yes I know but the home folder is encrypted
[09:10] <markveidemanis> Hi
[09:10] <markveidemanis> how do i switch windows in ubuntu?
[09:10] <iceroot> kluejay: the installer is asking you if you want to encrypt /home, say "yes" and then tell the installer to use the existing /home partition
[09:10] <histo> markveidemanis: alt tab
[09:10] <markveidemanis> thanks
[09:10] <iceroot> kluejay: the first part is pulling the correct packages
[09:10] <histo> markveidemanis: if you hold the windows key down for a few seconds it will pop up keybaord shortcuts
[09:11] <iceroot> kluejay: the second part is mounting /home/.username to /home/username
[09:11] <iceroot> kluejay: /home/michael/.Private    221G    128G   81G   62% /home/michael
[09:11] <iceroot> kluejay: there is still /home/username and that needs to be used
[09:11] <kluejay> iceroot: Yes but will it work if the username folder is already encrypted?
[09:11] <kluejay> by a previous installation
[09:11] <iceroot> kluejay: as i said 2 times already, yes :)
[09:12] <kluejay> iceroot: Are you sure on that, because I really don't want to lose data.
[09:12] <dr_willis> iceroot:  final answer? would you like ot make a call?> ;)
[09:12] <iceroot> kluejay: its not an encryption partition, its an encrpyted directory so there is no difference for the installer/partition part
[09:12] <dr_willis> You should of allready had stuff backed up...
[09:12] <iceroot> kluejay: if you dont want to lose data you will use your backup
[09:13] <iceroot> dr_willis: i call you :)
[09:13] <Novus> is nvidia drivers in repos?
[09:14] <sgo11> in text.plymouth, it has black= white= brown= blue=, what are they? how can I change the background color to a specific one? thanks.
[09:14] <dr_willis> Line is busy
[09:14] <dr_willis> !info nvidia-current
[09:14] <dr_willis> Novus:  yes. normally installed via the addational-drivers tool/tab
[09:14] <iceroot> kluejay: if you dont trust me, use /home on / on the installation part and after the system is installed edit /etc/fstab to use your real home-partition, install the cryptsetup tools and mount your original home partition
[09:15] <Novus> well that's good
[09:15] <Novus> it's giving me an error fro su password
[09:15] <kluejay> iceroot: I will try your method, so I assume I have to use the same username and password.
[09:15] <sgo11> Novus, yeah, nvidia driver is in repo. you'd better install it through command line. it has some problems in ubuntu 12.10. you may need to install additional kernel headers manually if your nvidia driver is not working properly.
[09:16] <dr_willis> Novus:  what are you doing exactly?
[09:16] <iceroot> kluejay: yes
[09:16] <iceroot> !sudo | Novus
[09:16] <Novus> atm just trying to install drivers
[09:16] <iceroot> Novus: dont use "su" because there is no root-account enabled by default
[09:16] <dr_willis> Novus:  and HOW.. exactly.
[09:16] <kluejay> iceroot: I thought maybe the encrypted directory relied on local certificated or something along with the password for decryption
[09:16] <Novus> but it's been eons since I used terminal
[09:16] <Novus> through terminal - repos
[09:16] <Novus> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:17] <Novus> I thought that's what it was
[09:17] <dr_willis> That normally does it for me.
[09:17] <iceroot> kluejay: no, the encrypted directory is protected with a passphrase/key, that key will be opened with your password and then the encrypted directory is mounted into /home/username like on this example /home/michael/.Private    230751380 134149072   84880792   62% /home/michael
[09:18] <Novus> how do I check my SU password?
[09:18] <dr_willis> there is no 'su' password
[09:18] <iceroot> Novus: there is no "su" password
[09:18] <dr_willis> you use your users password. to SUDO
[09:18] <Novus> right
[09:18] <iceroot> Novus: use "sudo" and not "su"
[09:18] <Novus> for some reason now that isn't working
[09:18] <indistylo> gandu
[09:18] <iceroot> Novus: and the sudo-password is your user-password
[09:19] <Novus> i put log in automaticall
[09:19] <dr_willis> Novus:  dosent matter.. your user still has a password
[09:19] <iceroot> Novus: so your real question is "i forgot my userpassword,how to restore it"?
[09:19] <Novus> sure
[09:20] <indistylo> +i
[09:20] <dr_willis> try going to the console and logging in.. see if you can login in right
[09:20] <Novus> brb
[09:24] <histo> !passwd | Novus
[09:25] <dr_willis> #1 reason to disable autologin -- so you rember your password... ;)
[09:25] <histo> !passwords | Novus
[09:26] <raj> how do I get my local IP address?
[09:26] <redcat> hi everybody
[09:26] <dr_willis> ifconfig   shows it raj
[09:26] <raj> thank you
[09:26] <raj> inet addr?
[09:27] <Tex_Nick> 2 things that people forget ...  passwords & backups
[09:28] <dr_willis> backup your passwords...
[09:28] <dr_willis> and password protect it!
[09:28] <Tex_Nick> LOL ;-)
[09:28] <dr_willis> Then write it down on a post-it note.
[09:28] <cfhowlett> and post in the left hand screen corner
[09:28] <raj> how do I get the current gateway?
[09:29] <llutz> raj: route -n
[09:29] <Tex_Nick> \roflmao
[09:29] <raj> thank you
[09:29] <Gonzo89> Hi i have a problem with converting a file into utf-8 (Ubuntu 6). "file -i filename.php" returns "filename.php: text/x-c; charset=us-ascii". (Why on earth text/x-c don't know) I tried "iconv -f US-ASCII -t UTF-8 filename.php > newfilename.php" and "file -i newfilename.php" still return charset=us-ascii. Thanks for any help/hint
[09:29] <redcat> !list
[09:29] <llutz> raj: or "ip n s"
[09:32] <Novus> test
[09:32] <Novus> ok I just lost compiz
[09:32] <Novus> lol
[09:33] <dr_willis> look under the couch
[09:34] <Novus> yea right
[09:35] <Novus> on a good note,.. comp was workign very fast
[09:36] <r0ugenode> hi im having trouble installing ubuntu
[09:36] <sgo11> Gonzo89, how many files are you going to convert? if not many, why don't you just create a new text file, and then copy the old file contents to the new file and then save. it will be utf-8 encoding by default.
[09:36] <Novus> brb again
[09:37] <hector__> hi everyone :)
[09:38] <Gonzo89> sgo11: Many files but i get a hint maybe it works now
[09:38] <hector__> how can you repair bad sectors of a removed notebook hard drive if the only other computer you have is a netbook?
[09:39] <dr_willis> i have a universial USB adaptor lets me plug in any style to it.
[09:39] <dr_willis> some netbooks also can take normal notebook sided hes
[09:39] <dr_willis> sized
[09:40] <sgo11> Gonzo89, I just tried your iconv way. it works fine.
[09:40] <dr_willis> or use a live -usb on the actual ntebook with the notebook hd in it..
[09:40] <r0ugenode> can you help restore my raspberry pi network
[09:40] <admin0> hi .. when I create a backport .. which file I need to change, so that the distro is updated to which I am making the backport
[09:40] <r0ugenode> ??
[09:40] <hetal> I'm looking at the output of lspci, and I see the following output: 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02).  Does this mean that the laptop HDD is an IDE drive?
[09:40] <r0ugenode> my raspberry pi with ubuntu installed
[09:40] <admin0> i am making a backport from quantal to precise ..  which file do I edit to say its for precise and not quantal
[09:40] <dr_willis> r0ugenode:  Err.. im not aware of a ubuntu for the raspberry pi.
[09:41] <dr_willis> Unles theres been some ports in the last month or 2
[09:41] <molensis> how can i get the glmatrix working?
[09:41] <sgo11> Gonzo89, "iconv -f <old_encoding> -t <new_encoding> old.txt > new.txt". it works very well. I never know this command. hehe. very useful.
[09:41] <hector__> dr willis, for live usb on netbook, I need first to encase the notebook HDD, correct?
[09:42] <llutz> hetal: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdX      to find out what hdd you have exactly, lspci just shows the controller
[09:42] <dr_willis> hector__:  you need an enclosuer for the HD/adaptor..
[09:42] <dr_willis> hector__:  or use a live usb on the original laptop with the hd in it.
[09:42] <pritesh> is it possible i can install Ubuntu with xfce in 800 MB ??
[09:42] <hector__> I never enclosed a removed HDD, is it simple to do?
[09:43] <dr_willis> hector__:  plug in 2 wires..
[09:43] <fidel> pritesh: 800mb space for the entire install?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> pritesh, best to try xubuntu or lubuntu for that little space
[09:43] <pritesh> fidel yes
[09:43] <hetal> llutz: Thanks a ton. The only output there mentioning anything about ATA is: Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 1:  ATA/ATAPI-2,3,4,5,6,7. I'm guessing I have SATA1 then?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> !mini|pritesh,
[09:44] <hector__> found a yt video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atgG5dOsp-w
[09:44] <pritesh> cfhowlett, i started with Minimal cd but when it starts installing it crossed size
[09:44] <dr_willis> i have a universial adaptor for trouble shooting.. it can ide/mini-ide/sata ;)
[09:45] <pritesh> ubottu, only the media cd size is low but after installation it crossed 1 GB
[09:45] <Ben64> dr_willis: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232002 ?
[09:45] <dr_willis> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=767474&is=REG&A=details&Q=
[09:45] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:45] <dr_willis> handy thing to have in the pc toolbox.
[09:45] <Ben64> oh even better
[09:45] <Ben64> mine is 2.0 only. the extra speed would be nice
[09:46] <dr_willis> yep  - mine is older 2.0  a 3 would be better
[09:48] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis & cfhowlett : regarding the above thread on passwords & backups ... you guys mind if i post that on the www.bash.org ( quote database home ) that's a great topic for the QDB ?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, I see no objection ...
[09:50] <molensis> where can i find the screensavers in gnome in ubuntu filesystem?
[09:51] <raj> why doesn't ubuntu use mesa?
[09:52] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett:  ok thanks ... with dr_willis's approval i'll post it ... was a response from the two of you ;-)
[09:52] <Tex_Nick> *great response
[09:52] <tokern3> how delet accounts in freenode
[09:53] <lunitik> tokern3, Did you actually go through the process of registering the account?
[09:54] <dr_willis> tokern3:  ask in #freenode
[09:54] <lunitik> tokern3, If you did not, there is nothing to do, the account will not be remembered.
[09:56] <raj> why doesn't ubuntu use mesa?
[09:57] <lunitik> raj, It does
[09:58] <lunitik> raj, dpkg -l | grep mesa  <-- lists the packages pertaining to mesa... note the ii means it is installed
[09:59] <lunitik> raj, Even when Ubuntu moves to Mir, it is likely mesa will continue to be used, it is essentially the DirectX of Linux
[09:59] <the_dark_knight> Hi, How do I get the list of python modules I have installed using either easy_install / pip?
[10:00] <lunitik> the_dark_knight, no idea, but you can do dpkg -l | grep python
[10:00] <lunitik> I dunno why you'd want third party tools for something so basic
[10:01] <dr_willis> python and perl both have their own special repo thanggies i recall. ;) never used the feature.
[10:01] <dr_willis> ruby has a similer thing also i recall
[10:02] <Kartagis> is there a useful document for building html5-validator on top of w3c-validator on ubuntu?
[10:03] <Novus> anyone know how to get a command line with a bad graphic drive in use? lol
[10:03] <dr_willis> use the console
[10:03] <ikonia> Novus: boot into vesa xorg driver
[10:03] <fidel> Novus: ctrl+alt+1-6 ?
[10:04] <dr_willis> !text
[10:04] <Novus> it's trying to start in low graphic mod
[10:04] <hector__> universal drive adapter seems to be a handy tool, thank you dr.
[10:04] <fidel> as optional idea: is ssh running on that machine?
[10:05] <hector__> is it applicable on a non-enclosed HDD?
[10:05] <dr_willis> err..it  is what you plug the hd into ...
[10:05] <dr_willis> a temp fix for accessing the hd.
[10:05] <dr_willis> so the only thing it would be used for would be a hd thats not allready in an enclosuer
[10:09] <raj> thanks lunitik
[10:09] <raj> :)
[10:09] <ikonia> raj: are you using arch or ubuntu ?
[10:11] <Novus> grr
[10:11] <dr_willis> woof?
[10:11] <Novus> there was a tuy on nvidia DRIVERS
[10:11] <Novus> this wasn't the correct one
[10:12] <Novus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioMeSCoyYng
[10:12] <dr_willis> all i normally do is install the nvidia-current package. or run the addational-drivers tool.. it can depend on your exact chipset
[10:12] <Novus> now I can't get into software sources to change the thing
[10:12] <dr_willis> and hopefully you are not using that dual-gpu optimus stuff
[10:12] <Novus> no,.. a 7300 gs
[10:12] <Novus> lol
[10:13] <dr_willis> If its a very old card  - it might not be supported by the nvidia drivers any more.
[10:13] <dr_willis> jockey-text or the jockey-gtk tool should give info. (on 12.04)
[10:13] <Novus> well it's weird
[10:13] <Novus> it seems like it works
[10:13] <Novus> but the screen size shoot up huge
[10:13] <Novus> or it don't show the menues
[10:14] <dr_willis> you mean its LOW res? or High res?
[10:14] <Novus> it's hi res with no menus
[10:14] <dr_willis> run the nvidia-settings tool to select the res you want to use.
[10:14] <dr_willis> you mean its Just the desktop wallpaper and nothing else?
[10:14] <Novus> yup
[10:14] <Novus> and a few files
[10:15] <dr_willis> what files?
[10:15] <dr_willis> details help.....
[10:15] <Novus> just some crap I had on the desktop
[10:15] <dr_willis> see if the guest user works.
[10:16] <Novus> what is the nvidia tools?
[10:16] <dr_willis> the nvidia drivers come with the 'nvidia-setting' tools to configure the nvidia stuff
[10:17] <raj> ikonia, yes and arch
[10:18] <Novus> how can i switch display back to that othe rdefaultdriver in command prompt?
[10:18] <lunitik> dr_willis, They got rid of jockey, it is in Software Center's Software Sources now.
[10:18] <wero> #ubuntu mexico
[10:18] <dr_willis> lunitik:  theres still jocky-text
[10:19] <cfhowlett> !es|wero
[10:19] <you-tee-f> is ubuntu certified enterily ?'POSIX conform' ?
[10:20] <lunitik> Novus, you can blacklist the module you do not want to use and reboot... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166624 for some details on that
[10:20] <lunitik> you-tee-f, well, linux is, yes...
[10:21] <lunitik> you-tee-f, Ubuntu is the total operating that includes a kernel called linux, which is posix conformant.
[10:21] <jpds> lunitik: Not according to Wikipedia.
[10:21] <lunitik> jpds, What does Wikipedia disagree on?
[10:22] <jpds> lunitik: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#cite_ref-61
[10:22] <Novus> it be quicker to just reinstall the systme
[10:22] <Novus> lol
[10:22] <saintpouf> yeah
[10:23] <jpds> saintpouf: Quite.
[10:23] <saintpouf> p
[10:23] <lunitik> jpds, It doesn't say it doesn't comply, it says only one distro has been certified...
[10:24] <you-tee-f> yes
[10:24] <lunitik> jpds, Just means no one else has bothered to pay to be certified, but that one has been, it's not like that project particularly targeted certification so everyone is certified.
[10:24] <lunitik> Well, effectively.
[10:24] <Novus> http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_7200.html
[10:24] <Novus> need driver for that
[10:25] <dr_willis> Novus:  does the addational-drivers tool suggest a driver for your card?
[10:25] <jpds> lunitik: Yeah, but his question was for certification. ;-)
[10:25] <lunitik> jpds, No, he has asked if Linux complies.
[10:25] <Novus> the system was borked
[10:25] <jpds> lunitik: "is ubuntu certified enterily ?"
[10:26] <Novus> I had to reinstall
[10:26] <lunitik> jpds, Ahh, you are correct, my apologies.
[10:26] <Novus> where is additional drivers too? software sources?
[10:26] <lunitik> Novus, yes
[10:27] <you-tee-f> that was my bad, actually i was just meaning if ubuntu just complies to POSIX
[10:27] <you-tee-f> guess i've had my answer whatesoever
[10:28] <you-tee-f> thank
[10:28] <Novus> holy fuck
[10:28] <Novus> North korea is endingthe armisis
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !language|Novus,
[10:28] <Novus> here we go!
[10:29] <Citillara> Hello, just a little question, putting a script inside /etc/rc0.d makes it run during the shutdown phase of a reboot or during its reboot phase ?
[10:29] <Novus> sorry
[10:29] <Novus> but WOW
[10:29] <DJones> Novus: Its not really an Ubuntu topic though
[10:29] <Novus> right, but it's news,.. anyway
[10:30] <DJones> Novus: See /topic - This channel is only for Ubuntu support, not general news issues
[10:30] <cfhowlett> Novus, best to discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic then
[10:30] <lunitik> Novus, there is #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk about it, someone might be interested
[10:31] <dr_willis> 12.10 has the addational drivers under a tab of the 'software-sources' tool.. or you can use jockey-text i hear
[10:32] <dr_willis> 12.04 has jockey-gtk you can run
[10:32] <Novus> still reloading the OS,.. > China is actually on our side
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !ot|Novus,
[10:32] <dr_willis> reloading? MS training has kicked in it seems...
[10:33] <Guest__> Test
[10:33] <Novus> LOL
[10:33] <Novus> I couldn't get the graphics fixed in command line this is faster
[10:34] <dr_willis> we mentioned the jockey-text tool several times
[10:35] <Drenriza> Is their a separate channel for discussing scripting / programming under Ubuntu? Or is this used for such?
[10:35] <cfhowlett> Drenriza, perhaps in #ubuntu-dev
[10:35] <dr_willis> scripting programing - is a very big and vague topic. ;)
[10:35] <lunitik> Drenriza, each language will have its own channel
[10:35] <dr_willis> what language?
[10:35] <Novus> you mean purgingthe drivers?
[10:35] <Novus> I tried that
[10:35] <Drenriza> dr_willis bash for example.
[10:35] <lunitik> Drenriza, #bash
[10:35] <dr_willis> theres 100000s of bash scripting guides and bookd out there
[10:36] <dr_willis> !abs
[10:37] <lunitik> Drenriza, Such things won't be particular to Ubuntu, and certainly don't pertain to end-user support so this channel isn't appropriate - not least because looking at code when you join a Linux channel will probably scare new users away.
[10:38] <blabla> hello.  I wanted to use multiple monitors so I installed the latest stable proprietary AMD driver. Now after login my screens are stcuk black and nothing happens. Care to help please ?
[10:38] <Drenriza> dr_willis / ubottu ty. But it was more because i had a specific question that i could not really find a answer to. But maybe i find a apprioate channel somewhere.
[10:38] <jpds> Drenriza: There's #ubuntu-devl
[10:38] <dr_willis> or just ask the specific question here and see..
[10:38] <jpds> Drenriza: There's #ubuntu-devel*
[10:39] <Novus> would this be the default driver?
[10:39] <Novus> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-304.84-driver.html
[10:39] <Novus> looks like it to me
[10:39] <dr_willis> the default may not be the latest.
[10:39] <Novus> released march 4th
[10:40] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:40] <dr_willis> the default may not be the latest....
[10:40] <Novus> morning
[10:40] <dr_willis> !latest
[10:40] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, greetings
[10:41] <BluesKaj> hi cfhowlett
[10:42] <Novus> ok it's back booting
[10:43] <Novus> so where is this tool you mentioned?
[10:44] <dr_willis> and your relase of ubuntu is which one?
[10:44] <Novus> 12.10
[10:45] <dr_willis> under 'software & updates' last tab
[10:45] <AndJusticeForAll> !backports
[10:45] <Novus> nothing is there
[10:45] <WakWak> Im on a openvz system. 12.04. UTC time is wrong. Is there anything i can do ? or is it all up to the host ?
[10:46] <dr_willis> its possible your card is no longer supported by the nvidia drivers then.
[10:46] <dr_willis> if its an old card
[10:47] <dr_willis> latest in the repo here is 310 it seems
[10:47] <Novus> can I ask a question? I mention several times that I have drivers NOT in the repos,.. yet it seems that I am havign difficulty getting an answer as to how to install them. Why is that?
[10:47] <dr_willis> if the current drivers do not support your card.. and its an older card.. the support has been dropped for the card from the drivers.. You use the gpl open sourced drivers which are installed by default
[10:47] <WakWak> Novus: Drivers are provided by those who makes them "Nvidia+latest+ubuntu" on google should help if u use nvidia. etc
[10:48] <dr_willis> theres a list somewher eof what drivers support what cards.
[10:48] <Novus> I got the driver,.. I don't need a list
[10:48] <Guest86018> Howdy
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Novus, for .deb files, sudo dpgk -i foo.deb
[10:49] <dr_willis> does the driver actually support your card is the question.. and what do you 'got' exactly?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> *dpkg*
[10:49] <jatak> Does anyone here use xubuntu?
[10:49] <jatak> Or xfce?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> jatak, yes
[10:49] <WakWak> Im on a openvz system. 12.04. UTC time is wrong. Is there anything i can do ? or is it all up to the host ?
[10:49] <jatak> Do you know if there's some kind of menu replacement that has a search function?
[10:49] <jatak> Kinda like the mintmenu in mate
[10:49] <tokern3> hi
[10:50] <Novus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioMeSCoyYng
[10:50] <cfhowlett> jatak, sorry, I've no idea.
[10:50] <Novus> when I did that earlyer
[10:50] <Novus> it sorta worked
[10:50] <cfhowlett> tokern3, greetings
[10:50] <Novus> but I lost unity and top bar
[10:52] <onats> hi all. when setting up juju /maas, can i do with just one machine, or i need at least two?
[10:54] <blabla> uninstalled all ATI drivers, reconfigured x server ... still have black screen after login
[10:55] <WakWak> join /#ubuntu-dk
[10:56] <cfhowlett> WakWak, try this:   /join #ubuntu-dk
[10:56] <lunitik> onats, MAAS isn't really useful with only one machine... juju can be used with lxc on your machine though
[10:56] <WakWak> cfhowlett: got it. More interested in getting an answer on this one
[10:56] <WakWak> Im on a openvz system. 12.04. UTC time is wrong. Is there anything i can do ? or is it all up to the host ?
[10:57] <lunitik> onats, You probably want to discuss that with #ubuntu-server though
[10:57] <dr_willis> WakWak:  DST just took effect.. is it off by an hour?
[10:57] <WakWak> dr_willis: yes exactly
[10:58] <dr_willis> theres a DST setting in some cofnig file i imagine
[10:58] <dr_willis> or your timezone setting
[10:58] <WakWak> dr_willis: but host said that he setup the node about 24 hours ago. new node. set it to UTC
[10:58] <WakWak> reconfiguring tzdata to another timezone doesnt matter. UTC is UTC no matter what the local timezone is set to
[10:58] <lunitik> onats, MAAS means "Metal as a Service", it is really for mass installations on a server farm
[11:04] <Kartagis> is there a useful document for building html5-validator on top of w3c-validator on ubuntu?
[11:05] <redtape-renegade> #ubuntu-uk
[11:05] <redtape-renegade> mispost ^
[11:06] <thierry_> bonjour
[11:09] <hector__> thank you dr., have a good day/night! :)
[11:09] <onats> lunitik: ok. thanks for that. basically Im looking for an alternative to what I'm doing right now. Everytime I deploy a new VM i clone a virtual box machine, and then set it up again. do you have suggestions? I only have one host at the moment
[11:10] <lunitik> onats, I would look into ubuntu-vm-builder and use lxc because it is more lightweight and does what you need to test juju... I would also look at explicitely what Dell installed on the Sputnik machines because that workflow is designed for what you want.
[11:11] <lunitik> onats, I would certainly stop using VirtualBox though, you don't really need that level of virtualization
[11:13] <Guest15877> hi
[11:13] <Guest15877><PHONE_NUMBER>
[11:13] <onats> lunitik:  what do you mean i don't need that level of virtualization/
[11:14] <lunitik> onats, lxc is a lot lighter, linux on linux doesn't require the entire machine be virtualized
[11:15] <onats> lunitik: do i get multiple hosts, with different ports?
[11:15] <onats> on lxc?
[11:15] <lunitik> onats, lxc is more like jails in the BSD world, or Zones in the solaris world if you are familiar with those...
[11:15] <onats> not familiar...
[11:15] <WakWak> Im on a openvz system. 12.04. UTC time is wrong. Is there anything i can do ? or is it all up to the host ?
[11:15] <lunitik> onats, Look into it, it is much nicer for your usecase  :)
[11:15] <onats> lunitik: ok will do that. lxc + juju?
[11:16] <inc0> hi, I have problem with apt, dependency seems to be broken and I can't do anythin about that
[11:16] <lunitik> onats, yes... and vm-builder - I think it automates building a vm, but I haven't actually tried it myself.
[11:16] <inc0> http://paste.org/62388 here is output of everything I try to do with apt
[11:16] <onats> got it. thanks lunitik!
[11:16] <lunitik> onats, via package "ubuntu-vm-builder"
[11:17] <lunitik> onats, You're welcome, good luck  :)
[11:17] <jrib> inc0: have you enabled unofficial repositories, repositories not meant for your ubuntu version, or installed packages manually?
[11:18] <inc0> jrib, previously yes, I guess, now I'd like to fix these
[11:18] <jrib> inc0: be more specific as to what you did
[11:19] <inc0> jrib, hard to tell actually, I don't know when exactly this broke, hold on I'll show you my sources.list
[11:20] <inc0> http://paste.org/62389 this is how it looks now
[11:23] <jrib> inc0: why do you say "now"?  How did it look before (what was your last change)?  Also, run « sudo apt-get update » and try again.  If error is identical, pastebin output of « apt-cache policy libkdecore5 libkdeui4 libsolid4 libkio5 ».  If error changes, pastebin new error
[11:26] <WakWak> Im on a openvz system. 12.04. UTC time is wrong. Is there anything i can do ? or is it all up to the host ?
[11:26] <XATRIX> Hi guys, any ideas ? http://fpaste.org/z7eA/ http://fpaste.org/UpzW/ ?
[11:27] <inc0> here is output of apt-cache http://paste.org/62390 and I've untagged any source list which was not official in ubuntu software center
[11:27] <dr_willis> WakWak:  disable the time sync service. and set the time manually
[11:27] <WakWak> dr_Willis: how ?
[11:27] <jrib> inc0: what did you untag?  Be specific
[11:27] <WakWak> got ntp installed not ntpupdate
[11:29] <inc0> http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu http://deb.opera.com/opera/ these
[11:29] <inc0> however error occured with these on too
[11:30] <jrib> inc0: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libkio5
[11:32] <_cronus_> XATRIX, try executing service as root
[11:32] <inc0> http://paste.org/62391
[11:33] <XATRIX> oh O_O
[11:33] <raptor> ynter51
[11:33] <praka> ,'-',
[11:33] <raptor> easyrider
[11:33] <mano> hi
[11:33] <praka> hello
[11:34] <XATRIX> _cronus_: http://fpaste.org/XG4w/
[11:34] <jrib> inc0: apt-cache policy libkparts4
[11:34] <XATRIX> Seems like it doesn't want to create sylinks for this service
[11:34] <mano> may i get some help plz
[11:34] <jrib> !ask | mano
[11:34] <praka> how can I start ubuntu in terminal mode
[11:34] <jrib> praka: why?
[11:34] <mano> i have problem with qJACK
[11:35] <_cronus_> XATRIX, i think upstart jobs dont use symlinks.
[11:35] <XATRIX> Ok, but can you please check this log
[11:35] <XATRIX> http://fpaste.org/wFUe/
[11:36] <XATRIX> I think the service crashes or what is it ?
[11:36] <praka> to avoid games
[11:36] <inc0> jrib, http://paste.org/62392
[11:36] <jrib> !text | praka
[11:37] <Novus> so I am down to the onboard GPU
[11:37] <jrib> inc0: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get install libkio5 libkparts4
[11:37] <Novus> still not getting the thing working right
[11:37] <praka> thank you very much
[11:38] <inc0> jrib, http://paste.org/62394
[11:39] <jrib> inc0: apt-cache policy libktexteditor4
[11:39] <_cronus_> XATRIX, maybe it is disabled at /etc/default/irqbalance
[11:39] <inc0> jrib, http://paste.org/62395
[11:40] <jrib> inc0: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get install libkio5 libkparts4 libtexteditor4
[11:40] <XATRIX> #Should irqbalance be enabled?ENABLED="1" #Balance the IRQs only once? ONESHOT="0"
[11:40] <inc0> jrib, E: Unable to locate package libtexteditor4
[11:40] <jrib> inc0: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get install libkio5 libkparts4 libktexteditor4
[11:41] <_cronus_> XATRIX, can u run it from the command line?
[11:41] <XATRIX> _cronus_: service ipqbalance start ?
[11:42] <_cronus_> XATRIX, just sudo irqbalance
[11:42] <XATRIX> yep
[11:42] <inc0> jrib, http://paste.org/62396
[11:42] <Novus> anyone else have any ideas?
[11:42] <XATRIX> But it exits after a while
[11:42] <jrib> !helpme | Novus
[11:42] <Novus> installing Nvidia drivers
[11:43] <_cronus_> XATRIX, does it go to the background or does it exit?
[11:43] <jrib> inc0: what's happening when you do "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[11:44] <Novus> !tool | jrib
[11:44] <XATRIX> _cronus_: it goes to background, i can see it in a process list, but it dissappears in 30 sec
[11:44] <XATRIX> Without any warrning, errors
[11:44] <inc0> jrib, http://paste.org/62397
[11:44] <_cronus_> XATRIX, try the --debug option
[11:44] <ikonia> Novus: what did you mean by !tool
[11:45] <Novus> looking for pm tools
[11:45] <jrib> Novus: most people probably have no idea what your issue is.  So saying "anyone else have any idea" isn't very productive.  Just repeat your question after about 10 minutes or so if no one has helped you by then
[11:45] <XATRIX> _cronus_: http://fpaste.org/JgdG/
[11:45] <ikonia> Novus: did you try the vesa driver as I said ?
[11:45] <ikonia> Novus: what are "pm tools"
[11:45] <Novus> private messege
[11:46] <Novus> where would I get that driver?
[11:46] <ikonia> Novus: I told you where/how to set it
[11:46] <Novus> i['ve tried Xorg ones and non of those work
[11:46] <ikonia> Novus: "xorg ones"....
[11:47] <ikonia> Novus: did you try the vesa driver as I asked you to ?
[11:47] <Novus> no,. that messege prolly got lost when I was switching network connections
[11:47] <ikonia> it didn't, as you said "ok"
[11:47] <ikonia> and "I'll get back to you"
[11:47] <Novus> lets try it again i suppose
[11:48] <Novus> where woudl I get thet driver then?
[11:48] <ikonia> try it again ?
[11:48] <ikonia> you've not tried it yet
[11:48] <_cronus_> XATRIX, maybe your machine is not supported as the first line says
[11:48] <ikonia> Novus: you need to set the driver type to "vesa" in the xorg.conf
[11:48] <ikonia> Novus: the driver is part of xorg's default install
[11:48] <jrib> inc0: is this a kubuntu system?
[11:48] <inc0> jrib, no, but one time I've tried to install kdevelop
[11:49] <inc0> that seems to mess things up
[11:49] <Novus> ok how do I edit the config of that then?
[11:49] <XATRIX> _cronus_: Not sure, it's ACER Aspire One, Intel Atom N455 , should be NUMA capable
[11:49] <ikonia> Novus: open the xorg.conf in a text file, find the driver line and set it to Vesa
[11:49] <jrib> inc0: then probably the easiest solution would be to remove the packages listed at the end of your last paste all at once and then reinsall kdevelop
[11:49] <Novus> i haven't a clue where that file is
[11:49] <ikonia> Novus: ok, so what did I tell you earlier about "asking" if you didn't know
[11:50] <Novus> where is that file?
[11:50] <ikonia> Novus: what have you been doing all this time to get it working if you've not changed the xorg.conf
[11:50] <Novus> I been up for 20 hours
[11:50] <inc0> jrib, I don't care about kdevelop any more, but apt-get purge any of these end with error
[11:50] <ikonia> Novus: what have you been doing all this time to get it working if you've not changed the xorg.conf
[11:50] <Novus> sorry I missed it
[11:51] <jrib> inc0: apt-get purge all at the same time.  You can pastebin the output
[11:53] <joelataylor> hi - I was hoping to get some clarification on ubuntu's 11.04 apache config for vhosts. I've defined a new vhost in the sites-available dir, yet it never seems to be referenced because the default site always catches the requests. Is it standard to disable the default site when enabling new vhosts?
[11:53] <_cronus_> XATRIX, i just searched the net. seems normal https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749710
[11:53] <jrib> !11.04 | joelataylor
[11:53] <inc0> jrib,  http://paste.org/62398
[11:54] <Novus> where is that conf file ikona?
[11:54] <ikonia> Novus: what have you been doing all this time to get it working if you've not changed the xorg.conf
[11:54] <jrib> inc0: you can add libkatepartinterfaces4 .  Do note this will take away all your kde stuff, but you should be able to reinstall it later if you want
[11:55] <emash> i am having trouble setting up nvidia drivers (gf 8500) in 12 10&? Any tips/advice?
[11:55] <Novus> LOL welcome to the club emash
[11:55] <jrib> !nvidia | emash
[11:55] <XATRIX> _cronus_: So, it should be used as oneshot ?
[11:56] <joelataylor> jrib: hmmm, it's what media temple offers … would the version make a dif. to my question on ghosts?
[11:56] <inc0> jrib, seems to work because updater popped up ;)
[11:56] <inc0> thanks
[11:56] <emash> already tried, end up with no gui at all. so it seems that the best solution is to install 12 04?
[11:56] <jrib> joelataylor: no, I don't believe vhosts configuration has changed.  However, I would not run 11.04 as it is no longer supported (i.e. no security updates)
[11:57] <emash> !nvidia
[11:57] <jrib> inc0: if you want the kde stuff again, you should be able to just install whatever package you want
[11:57] <joelataylor> jrib: agh, I see - good to know!
[11:57] <jrib> joelataylor: see if they can offer you 12.04 (that will have support until april 2017)
[11:57] <_cronus_> XATRIX, that's what i understand from the explanation as well
[11:57] <XATRIX> Yea
[11:58] <jrib> joelataylor: regarding your question, make sure you symlink to sites-enabled
[11:59] <joelataylor> jrib: yup the link is created
[11:59] <joelataylor> I had to disable the default symlink (a2dissite) to get my new vhost to work
[12:00] <joelataylor> which seems weird, as now I won't have a catch all … (well, I guess my only vhost entry would catch all)
[12:00] <jrib> joelataylor: could be some conflict in the configurations?  Both files should be read iirc
[12:00] <joelataylor> if the default vhost doesn't define a ServerName - would it catch all and not continue to process the specified vhost?
[12:02] <joelataylor> jrib: ooo I think I might've found it. If I'm defining the IP in the vhost it will only read one? as each vhost ip has to be different?
[12:02] <jrib> joelataylor: I don't know.  If no one can help here, there's also #httpd
[12:02] <joelataylor> jrib: thx, I'll try there
[12:08] <iceroot> joelataylor: you can use the same ip for more then one vhost
[12:09] <iceroot> joelataylor: if you dont use a vhost domain or something which will not fit to your vhost definition, apache will use the default document-root which is normally defined for *:80
[12:09] <joelataylor> iceroot: yeh, I just got clarification in #httpd - I had setup my vhosts with the same ip:port - which apache will only read the first directive
[12:09] <rndbit> anyone know what is correct approach to implement launch on startup for application?
[12:09] <joelataylor> yep, iceroot you have to use *:80 to enable name-based vhosts which I missed
[12:09] <iceroot> joelataylor: apache will work on domain-base in that case and will look if there is a special vhost configuration, if not default document root will be used
[12:11] <pistolpete> hey
[12:11] <Hyperiant> Ubuntu 12.10 isn't seeing my USB mouse or keyboard running from a live CD; how can I fix this?
[12:12] <rndbit> did you try another usb slots?
[12:12] <_cronus_> rndbit, probably the one that works. ;-)
[12:13] <rndbit> what works is not always the best way :p
[12:13] <Hyperiant> rndbit: Both were working in windows 2 minutes ago
[12:14] <rndbit> Hyperiant, sometimes weird things happen with usb slots, same device does not work in one slot but works in another, just try moving them around
[12:14] <Hyperiant> Worth a shot
[12:15] <Hyperiant> Right, changed the ports of both and they still don't work
[12:16] <Buli> ee
[12:16] <Hyperiant> They're being plugged into the back ports, no hubs in the way
[12:16] <student06> beng
[12:16] <Buli> nie mam pytki
[12:16] <rndbit> usb 2.0? altho 3.0 seems working fine for me
[12:16] <Buli> nie mam pytki
[12:16] <Buli> nie mam pytki
[12:16] <Buli> nie mam pytki
[12:16] <FloodBot1> Buli: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <Hyperiant> Yes, they are 2.0 ports
[12:17] <DJones> !pl | Buli
[12:17] <Buli> nie mam pytki
[12:17] <rndbit> well.. maybe they are too exotic or what not, no idea. i would suggest googling and seeing if anyone else has problems with same devices
[12:18] <rndbit> altho since its both keyboard and mouse - must be something else, not the devices
[12:18] <Hyperiant> I restarted and they magically started working...why they stopped, I have no idea
[12:22] <rndbit> Hyperiant, magic happens. i have to fight with my installation over blinking cursor. no clue what causes it. usually few restarts or update-grub via VM fixes it.
[12:24] <molensis> quick question, how can I know the path of a application?
[12:25] <molensis> i want to put transmission in my startup applications but i can't find its .exe so i cant put its path
[12:25] <mJayk> molensis: linux doesnt use .exe
[12:25] <molensis> i mean the application itself
[12:26] <molensis> whatever the file
[12:26] <Seveas> molensis: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[12:26] <Touhou11> molensis: Run "whereis transmission", or look in synaptic
[12:26] <mJayk> molensis: yes there is no .exe file
[12:26] <mJayk> molensis: go to your startup window
[12:26] <molensis> Seveas: thanks, but for future reference, how can i find it?
[12:26] <mJayk> in settings
[12:26] <c2tarun> can anyone please in figuring out that why is my 91% RAM is full? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5604638/   when I took this data only steam was running with downloading a game. But my 91% RAM is full.
[12:27] <c2tarun> please help me ** in
[12:27] <llutz> c2tarun: 1078 used, free  1857   nothing to worry
[12:27] <mJayk> molensis: to add it to startup you just need to enter the command "transmission"
[12:27] <llutz> c2tarun: linux uses free memory as buffer/cache
[12:28] <Seveas> molensis: dpkg -L transmission will show you all files in the transmission package. Actual programs ususally live in /usr/bin
[12:28] <Hyperiant> Ubuntu 12.10 is saying "No root file system is defined."  It says to correct this from the positioning menu but I already told it to make an ext4 partition at sdb1 and set it as the device for boot loader installation.
[12:28] <frots> c2tarun: sudo echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[12:28] <c2tarun> llutz, ohhh... :) great thanks it means actually only 1644 MBs of RAM is occupied by apps :)
[12:28] <c2tarun> frots, what will that do?
[12:28] <Hyperiant> ...I can't find a "partitioning menu."
[12:28] <frots> drop the cache
[12:28] <llutz> won't work, use  ... sudo tee
[12:29] <frots> ah true
[12:29] <frots> c2tarun: echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[12:29] <molensis> Seveas: it showed a lot of "transmission" how should I know which one is needed to start the app?
[12:29] <llutz> c2tarun: free memory is wasted memory
[12:29] <frots> but have to say that it doesnt speed up anything
[12:29] <c2tarun> llutz, yeah, one more thing, I noticed echo > filename doesn't work but tee does, why?
[12:29] <Touhou11> llutz: That's a common opinion of Java programmers
[12:29] <cylonmath> ls
[12:29] <frots> because > is not run as root
[12:29] <llutz> c2tarun: sudo echo foo >   won't work because only echo will be using sudo, not the >.
[12:30] <frots> e.g. the file is opened by regular user and not writable
[12:30] <Seveas> molensis: see the second half of my previous message :)
[12:30] <c2tarun> llutz, ohh... :) thanks
[12:30] <Hyperiant> Works now, but it wants me to make a partition for swap.  I thought it usually did this automatically.
[12:30] <llutz> c2tarun: so echo foo| sudo tee bar     works
[12:31] <molensis> Seveas: now I get it thank you good sir!
[12:32] <Hyperiant> How much should I make the swap partition be?
[12:32] <cylonmath> How much RAM do you have
[12:32] <Touhou11> Hyperiant: 1 or 2 GB is enough
[12:32] <Hyperiant> 4GB
[12:32] <jpds> Hyperiant: If you want to hibernate, you'll need more like 5/6.
[12:35] <Touhou11> I thought hibernate tends to use a dedicated swap file rather than the swap partition
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: as long as there is space for 'swap' it will be used
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: in Linux, a partition is technically a file. Everything is a file :)
[12:36] <XATRIX> How can i clean dns cache ?
[12:36] <zoie> hello, what is the best way to access to pandora.com outside the US on linux?
[12:36] <XATRIX> The domain already changed it's IP, but when i ping it from my laptop - it's still the old ip assigned
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clearflush-dns-cache-in-ubuntu.html
[12:37] <XATRIX> thnks
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> actually, not that
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start
[12:37] <XATRIX> Yea, i did it, nothing happens
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: try nscd as the guide says then :)
[12:38] <Seveas> zoie: get a vps in the use and tunnel/route through that
[12:38] <Touhou11> zoie: That's not a Linux question, it's an issue of spoofing your location
[12:38] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: http://fpaste.org/Ov3D/
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: or maybe:   sudo kill -HUP $(pgrep dnsmasq)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:39] <XATRIX> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: try the kill command, may work
[12:40] <XATRIX> Nope
[12:40] <XATRIX> Still .98
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: try stopping and starting network-manager
[12:40] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: nope... It will ruin me everythign :)
[12:41] <XATRIX> Ok, let's wait unstill my dns-cache will expire :(
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: try: sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean
[12:42] <F3Speech> When I run "rm -vrf <folderorfiles> from a mounted xfs filesystem nothing happens, no errors and no deletions. Anyone any ideas why? I can see the same folder via a samba share and can rightclick delete from windows removing the folder/file easily.
[12:43] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: http://fpaste.org/Ov3D/ - already did...no effect
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> F3Speech: is it mounted writable?
[12:43] <F3Speech> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:44] <mrAlmond> Hi everyone
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> F3Speech: if you use nautilus and delete via the XFS mount point, does it delete?
[12:44] <F3Speech> ActionParsnip: im running server ed so no gui
[12:44] <c2tarun> llutz, 3 yrs back when I used windows, I use to get BSOD, now you told me that OS claims free RAM for cache, is this the reason why Windows have BSOD? Because of their faulty memory management? (I was just curious)
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: not sure then. Could reboot if all else fails
[12:44] <XATRIX> Yea
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: unused RAM is wasted RAM
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram | c2tarun
[12:44] <XATRIX> I also checked /etc/hosts , no extra entries...
[12:45] <mrAlmond> Are there "standardized" ways to customize ubuntu to make it suitable for a "kiosk" application?
[12:45] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, I got that part :) I was wondering about BSOD.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: no idea, that's a windows thing :)
[12:45] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, yeah :) never mind.
[12:45] <mrAlmond> I mean customized boot animation and start of a particular application without showing the desktop
[12:45] <F3Speech> ActionParsnip: cant get my head around why no errors or anything with the command.
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: you can also use preload to put apps in RAM to help speed up the system
[12:46] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, really, how?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: install it and reboot
[12:46] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, install what? preload?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: if you have enough spare RAM, you can set vm.swappiness lower and keep apps in RAM rather than using swap
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: yes, preload is a package
[12:47] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, I have 3 GB of RAM and apps I often use are firefox, xchat, eclipse, android sdk, thunderbird and sometimes clementine.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: I'd probably leave swappiness as it s but preload will help
[12:48] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, I also have 2GB swap partition.
[12:48] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, I'll try and install preload
[12:49] <c2tarun> do I have to configure preload to load certain apps on reboot?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: then you won't be able to hibernate
[12:49] <c2tarun> ActionParsnip, I never hibernate
[12:49] <F3Speech> Anyone else have an idea why command rm would complete without error but not remove the requested file?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> c2tarun: its predictive, it will work its magic
[12:49] <c2tarun> something is wrong with my machine and hibernate and suspend doesn't turn out well on it :P
[12:49] <elixir> How can i enable hibernate option in my ubuntu 12.10
[12:49] <elixir> i have swap 4gb !
[12:50] <ebit> hello
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> elixir: does the system have a make and model?
[12:50] <llutz> c2tarun: i don't know much about windows, i'm not very interested in windows-internals and why it fails at some point. it handles things different, but at work (only place i use windows) we don't have any problems with bsod etc. windows works stable since years
[12:50] <elixir> ActionParsnip: what does it mean?
[12:50] <ebit> quick question, I have windows and ubuntu on is there a way I can access my windows music on Rhytmbox?
[12:50] <c2tarun> llutz, that makes two of us.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ebit: did you install using Wubi?
[12:51] <ebit> yeah
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> elixir: the system you are using. is it a Dell etc?
[12:51] <mJayk> ebit:  go to host in / i think
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ebit: then you can run:   ln -s /host ~/Windows      and access your data in the NTFS partition easily
[12:51] <mJayk> ebit: you should find your windows filesystem in there if you installed via wubi
[12:51] <elixir> ActionParsnip: its Lenovo Y560. 4gb ram!
[12:52] <ebit> I'll try your ideas, a sec
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> ebit: it will make a handy link in $HOME called 'Windows' and you can access the data. imho this is the ONLY good thing about Wubi
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> elixir: so the make and model is a Lenovo Y560....this is what I was asking
[12:52] <elixir> ActionParsnip: PS: I cannot do it via extensions.gnome.org :(
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> elixir: let me search
[12:53] <elixir> ActionParsnip: Ohh ! i see. Its first time someone has asked me in technical terms :) Btw , how can i proceed?
[12:53] <Hyperiant> Was it a bad idea to install Ubuntu before Windows?
[12:53] <elixir> ActionParsnip: ok..:)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Hyperiant: not really, you just have to reinstate Grub to the MBR as Windows will overwrite it
[12:54] <Hyperiant> How do I do that?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> elixir: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1646859
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Hyperiant: omgubuntu has a guide called 'sticking it to grub', very useful
[12:56] <ebit> ActionParsnip: when I tried that command it said -  failed to create symbolic link `./Windows': File exists
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> ebit: then you ran it once before and got no output, correct?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> elixir: its because it's that garbage switching gpu thing. It causes all manner of hell
[12:57] <ebit> uhmm D:
[12:57] <ebit> the terminal?
[12:57] <Kartagis> has anyone tried to build html5 validator on ubuntu?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> ebit: look in your home folder, do you see a 'Windows' folder?
[12:58] <ebit> ah, yeah
[12:58] <beliveyourdream> hi all .. how can i autologin without gdm ?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> ebit: go into it, what do you see ;)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> beliveyourdream: sure
[12:58] <ebit> but I don't see it when I try to import trought Rhytmbox :v
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> beliveyourdream: you will add a command in /etc/rc.local to use su to run the desktop stuff etc
[12:58] <mJayk> ActionParsnip: Thanks for that info I didnt know you coulddo it that way :)
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> ebit: set that (or a subfolder of it) to be part of the library.....
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> mJayk: do what?
[12:59] <ebit> a sec
[12:59] <lunitik> Kartagis, Searching for HTML5 validator, I only get a bunch of websites offering to validate sites... what exactly are you talking about?
[13:00] <Kartagis> lunitik: I'm getting a java error trying to build html5.validator.nu service, and I wondered how anyone resolved that, if any
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: which java are you running?
[13:00] <ebit> Thanks for the help, I just made link to the it in the documents.
[13:00] <lunitik> Kartagis, What is the error?
[13:01] <Kartagis> lunitik: the error I get is: "Could not find the main class: nu.validator.servlet.Main. Program will exit."
[13:01] <ebit> to it*
[13:01] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: openjdk I guess
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> ebit: links are powerful :)
[13:01] <ebit> :D
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: could try oracle java :)
[13:01] <elixir> ActionParsnip I don't have a hibernate option on my laptop in ubuntu, this thread doesn't solves the purpose.:(
[13:01] <ebit> first time on ubuntu, didn't even know what that is. I only know what's a shortcut
[13:02] <elixir> ActionParsnip: I only have Suspend and Power Off options.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ebit: a symlink appears as a folder or file (whichever is linked to) but the storage doesn't move. It's like a windows shortcut but with more functionality
[13:02] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: in this guide, they said export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk, so I'm guessing that's what they suggest/require
[13:03] <ebit> allright, I guess I have much to learn then. Thanks again.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> elixir: all I can suggest is report a bug
[13:03] <lunitik> Kartagis, Yeah, OpenJDK is what you want to use... a google search is not showing where that function is supposed to be coming from though - certainly the issue is not related to version of Java though based on what you've said
[13:04] <elixir> ActionParsnip: plz do !
[13:04] <elixir> ActionParsnip: thanks !
[13:05] <Kartagis> lunitik: I was following http://blog.simplytestable.com/installing-the-w3c-html-validator-with-html5-support-on-ubuntu/
[13:06] <lunitik> Kartagis, What step are you at that brought this error?
[13:07] <Kartagis> lunitik: that page links to http://about.validator.nu/#src and I am getting the error at python stage
[13:07] <ebit> allright, next problem, when I try to install skype, it shows the folowing: wrong architecture'i386'
[13:08] <Kartagis> ebit: run uname -a
[13:08] <ebit> aight
[13:09] <Touhou11> ebit: Be careful using Skype, it's proprietary software. For more information, see: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
[13:09] <Touhou11> ebit: You might like to try Ekiga instead
[13:09] <ebit> Touhoull: well most of my friend are on skype D:
[13:10] <ebit> there's the problem
[13:10] <Kartagis> ebit: what does uname -a tell you?
[13:10] <ebit> Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:11] <Kartagis> ebit: get 64 bit version then
[13:11] <ebit> durr
[13:11] <lunitik> Kartagis, To me it looks like you missed something, I see no where that would bring that issue... you have not been very sure about Java use though, Java isn't installed by default anymore, you should thus know what java is around...
[13:13] <Kartagis> lunitik: running dpkg-query -l *jdk* | grep ii, I get openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless and openjdk-6-jre-lib
[13:13] <Touhou11> ebit: If you explain the dangers of non-free software to your friends, they could switch to Ekiga too
[13:14] <ebit> Touhoull: possibly, they aren't much of computer wizzes or anything
[13:14] <ebit> then again not saying I am
[13:14] <lunitik> Kartagis, That looks right.
[13:15] <ebit> why can't I type my password in [sudo]
[13:15] <ebit> it just doesn't do anything
[13:15] <Seveas> ebit: you can, but nothing will show up in the terminal as you type. Just type the password and hit enter.
[13:15] <Kartagis> ebit: it doesn't show you the password
[13:15] <Kartagis> Seveas beats me to it
[13:15] <ebit> I typed it, but it says wrong password
[13:15] <Seveas> ebit: then type the correct password :)
[13:15] <lunitik> ebit, Then type it correctly
[13:15] <Kartagis> then it is wrong
[13:15] <SeldonH> hello
[13:16] <ebit> I am D::
[13:16] <ebit> ok it worked
[13:16] <ebit> maybe I didn't type it correctly
[13:16] <lunitik> ebit, You definitely didn't.
[13:17] <Kartagis> lunitik: so, what next?
[13:17] <SeldonH> Hello guys i got one or two question about my ubuntu. is there anyone here that could may be help ??
[13:17] <steve____> hi
[13:17] <lunitik> I am at a loss, I just wanted to engage to try to help troubleshoot because I keep seeing you ask, Kartagis, sorry
[13:18] <Tex_Nick> !ask | SeldonH
[13:18] <SeldonH> thx
[13:18] <SeldonH> !ask
[13:18] <steve____> i needed some information on performing incremental build on compiled linux kernel
[13:19] <steve____> can anyone help me ...
[13:19] <k1lled> guys i trying to crack my WEP at home, but..... Failed. Next try with 15000 IVs.
[13:19] <lunitik> steve____, I am not sure what you think you mean... you want to compile a module for the current kernel?
[13:19] <k1lled> how much IVs ..
[13:19] <k1lled> btw for a first time i try this
[13:20] <SeldonH> my ubuntu doesn't start anymore... it's blocked on a dark page with 4 choices 1:ubuntu 2:advanced option3:memory test (memtest86+ and 4: memory test  ( memtest86+, serial console 115200
[13:20] <steve____> @lunitik - i have already compiled and installed linux kernel
[13:20] <Tex_Nick> k1lled:  that's really a question to be asked in #backtrack :)
[13:20] <k1lled> wifi - wep *
[13:20] <ebit> also, what's the easiest way to put like a different language keyboard in which I need other letters like š, ā etc. (latvian language with apostrophe)
[13:20] <jpds> SeldonH: Choose 1.
[13:21] <k1lled> Tex_Nick: i am with ubuntu
[13:21] <k1lled> just install tools
[13:21] <lunitik> steve____, so what is your question? I don't know what you mean by "incremental build"
[13:21] <steve____> @lunitik - but if i want to change some file and re-build just the change
[13:21] <jpds> k1lled: We're sure it's "your" WEP. :)
[13:21] <Pici> k1lled: We do not provide support for such things in this channel.
[13:21] <SeldonH> ok when i do so nothing happen but i heard i noice right now...
[13:22] <SeldonH> i think the hdd is dead
[13:22] <k1lled> ok..
[13:22] <k1lled> off
[13:22] <lunitik> steve____, it should bump the number automatically, although I am mostly used to kernel-package methods
[13:22] <BluesKaj> SeldonH, that.s your grfub menu , it should open ubuntu after a few swcs
[13:22] <BluesKaj> grub menu
[13:22] <Tex_Nick> k1lled:  i understand that ... but pentesting support is better provided in #backtrack :-)
[13:22] <k1lled> ok
[13:23] <SeldonH> no init found
[13:23] <jpds> k1lled: If it was yours, you could look at the back of the router for the passkey.
[13:23] <steve____> lunitik: wht do you mean by bump the number
[13:23] <steve____> lunitik: sry .. i am new to linux
[13:23] <erinc> hello guys. how can i run ubuntu from usb flash disk?
[13:23] <k1lled> jpds: i testing
[13:23] <k1lled> i know the password
[13:23] <k1lled> i want to see i can crack it ..
[13:24] <Pinkamen1_D> hi, I am trying to launch config editor for the first time. I press alt+f2 and type gconf-editor and it shows up, but when i click it nothing happens. Is this something i need to install first?
[13:24] <folivora> ppppp/mn/
[13:24] <lunitik> steve____, instead of kernel-3.8.1-blah1 it will automatically compile the next as -blah2... have you looked at kernel-package or doing the generic compile method?
[13:24] <SeldonH> no init found and it say "enter help for a list of built in commands'
[13:25] <lunitik> steve____, Of course, you will have to recompile the entire kernel for the file changes... if that is what you mean by incremental build... you can't can't apply a patch after it is compiled without doing it again
[13:25] <jrib> Pinkamen1_D: what do you want gconf-editor for?
[13:26] <steve____> erinc: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[13:27] <lunitik> Pinkamen1_D, try running it from the terminal and paste the error
[13:27] <ebit_> also, what's the easiest way to put like a different language keyboard in which I need other letters like š, ā etc. (latvian language with apostrophe)
[13:27] <Pinkamen1_D> sorry i took so long
[13:27] <Pinkamen1_D> I want it to edit the style of the scroll bars on windows
[13:27] <erinc> steve: i used pendrive but its for windows i use ubuntu right now
[13:27] <Pinkamen1_D> If its the same command in the terminal as it is there, it says it does not exist
[13:28] <lunitik> erinc, a pendrive isn't for Ubuntu or Windows, it is just a pendrive... try the link
[13:28] <ActionPa1snip> Pinkamen1_D: do you want to use the normal scroll bars instead of the overlay ones?
[13:28] <jrib> Pinkamen1_D: what ubuntu version is this?
[13:28] <steve____> lunitik: if i want to fix a bug in a file or add a print message ... i end up recompiling the entire kernel .... which takes a lot of time
[13:28] <Pinkamen1_D> no, I am tryong to mae my own from a collection of image files i have for the arrows , the bar, and the overlay
[13:28] <Pinkamen1_D> 12.10
[13:28] <Pinkamen1_D> trying to make*
[13:29] <lunitik> steve____, that is how it works with compiled languages though
[13:29] <steve____> lunitik: instead on re-compile, it should just compile the changed file and create a image
[13:29] <steve____> erinc: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[13:29] <Pinkamen1_D> but i would be interested to know, actionparsnip, how you do that aswell
[13:30] <lunitik> steve____, I certainly know of no way to do that if such a thing exists
[13:30] <erinc> linitik: its a exe file. im using ubuntu right now
[13:31] <jrib> Pinkamen1_D: to turn on and off the overlay scrollbars, you probably want dconf-editor (org → gnome → desktop → interface).  To make your own theme, I doubt you do that with dconf or gconf
[13:32] <Pinkamen1_D> any idea where i could start
[13:32] <Pinkamen1_D> ?
[13:32] <steve____> lunitik: thank you
[13:33] <dr_willis> start by looking at other themes. ;-)
[13:36] <brobeans> Hi all. I'm having a silly issue with NIS. I've installed the service, configured the allowed connections, created the DB. However I cannot start the service as it isn't found, even though its installed.
[13:36] <soliloquy1> Hi, I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now Ubuntu will not boot, gives me a grub error
[13:36] <brobeans> Any body have a sec that could help
[13:36] <soliloquy1> I'm on a macbook air with refit
[13:40] <elixir> ActionParsnip: if you could help me with another issue? In another laptop, HP PAVILON DV6, i5 , my lan is not working. Its been over 10 days, I am not able to solve the issue, I tried many things. I would be more than happy if you can 'please please' help me debug this/??
[13:40] <jony> in ubuntu 12.04 krusader access slowly in folders, how can it be fixed?
[13:41] <elixir> ActionParsnip : Ubuntu 12.04: Lan always shows 'Cable unplugged', while wireless working fine !
[13:43] <elixir> Hi everyone: if you could help me with this issue? In another laptop, HP PAVILON DV6, i5 , my lan is not working. Its been over 10 days, I am not able to solve the issue, I tried many things. I would be more than happy if you can 'please please' help me debug this/??
[13:43] <elixir> Ubuntu 12.04: Lan always shows 'Cable unplugged', while wireless working fine !
[13:43] <killer> hey
[13:44] <jil> hello
[13:44] <killer> is there a way i can know whenever nautilus is opened (i need it for  a python script)
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> killer: pidof nautilus
[13:44] <Novus> ubuntu has forever pissed me off
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Novus: you don't have to use it
[13:45] <Novus> your right
[13:45] <Novus> i don't get it
[13:45] <jil> I'm runnin 12.04 LTS for 3 month now, and it's great.  except that I get different md5sum on exactly the same files ???
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Novus: so where is the issue?
[13:45] <Novus> where do I start?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Novus: no, if you don't like an OS and you don't have to use it then change
[13:45] <Novus> the two major graphics cards I have had are ATI and nvidia
[13:46] <Novus> both have had issues with ubuntu
[13:46] <Novus> 9.10 had sound card issues
[13:46] <jil> I worked on it for month also, changed the memory, checked the disk,  do a cpuburn test... I don't know what to check next
[13:46] <theadmin> killer: Something like this (pure Python) will do: process = filter(lambda p: p.name == "nautilus", psutil.process_iter()). You'll need to import psutil.
[13:46] <Tex_Nick> Novus : a few hours ago you were praising your success with ubuntu ? ;-)
[13:46] <elixir> ActionParsnip: please guide me ! Its really important for me!
[13:46] <killer> ActionParsnip: when i run the script at startup...and how will i know the nautilus is launched....as nautilus will not always have same pid
[13:46] <Novus> everytime I try this system I spend more time trying to install the OS then actually useing it
[13:46] <soliloquy1> I run a macbook air with refit - upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now grub can't find ubuntu?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> killer: I know, pidof doesn't expect the same pid
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> elixir: help with what?
[13:47] <Novus> then
[13:47] <Novus> they put unity in the mix
[13:47] <Novus> arg
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Novus: If you dislike Unity, install Xubuntu
[13:47] <Novus> I'm having a bonfire in my back yard for all the CD's I wasted last night trying to instal the thing
[13:48] <brobeans> Hi all. I'm having a silly issue with NIS. I've installed the service, configured the allowed connections, created the DB. However I cannot start the service as it isn't found, even though its installed.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Novus: or try Suse or Mandriva, something totally different
[13:48] <elixir> if you could help me with another issue? In another laptop, HP PAVILON DV6, i5 , my lan is not working. Its been over 10 days, I am not able to solve the issue, I tried many things. I would be more than happy if you can 'please please' help me debug this/??
[13:48] <killer> ActionParsnip: kk , i get the idea but is there  a way i can know that a specific folder was opened
[13:48] <Novus> installing Kubuntu atm
[13:48] <elixir> Ubuntu 12.04: Lan always shows 'Cable unplugged', while wireless working fine !
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> killer: you can use awk to filter out the folder (maybe)
[13:48] <Novus> I've never had issues with them
[13:48] <elixir> ActionParsnip: ^^^
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Novus: that has the same drivers and so forth, the only difference is KDE instead of Gnome
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> elixir: tried installing wicd and removing network manager
[13:49] <Novus> perhaps it's the choice of GNome that is the problem
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Novus: depends what your current issues are
[13:49] <jony> in ubuntu 12.04 krusader access slowly in folders, how can it be fixed?
[13:49] <Novus> GPU is primary one
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Novus: the drivers are the same
[13:50] <elixir> ActionParsnip: No. i am new in sense of learning. Can u provide me commands?
[13:50] <Novus> but I've had that twice now on 2 seperate computers
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> elixir: use software centre, just like any other program....
[13:50] <elixir> ActionParsnip: ok..
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Novus: are you using that OPtimus mess in a laptop?
[13:51] <soliloquy1> I run a macbook air with refit - upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now grub can't find ubuntu?
[13:51] <soliloquy1> 9:47
[13:51] <Novus> no desktop
[13:51] <soliloquy1> oops, sorry about that artifact - not what I wanted, Mac!
[13:51] <Novus> and belive me when I say this... Win7 worke better then ubuntu on that thing
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Novus: but an Intel GPU and an Nvidia GPU in the same system?
[13:52] <Novus> AMD NVidia
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Novus: which one?
[13:52] <theadmin> AMD and Nvidia? The two never exist together.
[13:52] <Novus> AMD CPU, nvidia GPU
[13:52] <MacGuges> How does the stability of 12.10 compare with 12.04?
[13:52] <Novus> couldn't tell you
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> MacGuges: Precise is aimed to be more stable
[13:53] <theadmin> MacGuges: Generally speaking, LTS releases tend to be more stable.
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Novus: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display      it will tell you the nvidia GPU you have
[13:53] <Novus> i know what GPU I have
[13:53] <Novus> I dled the drivers manually even
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Novus: that's what I asked earlier...
[13:53] <Novus> ubuntu just don't work with it
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Novus: which nvidia GPU do you have please7
[13:54] <Novus> be more specific then
[13:54] <MacGuges> My dad has complained about his machine becoming unresponsive, just a few days past installation.
[13:54] <Novus> 7300GS (could be 7200
[13:54] <Novus> it's an older one yes,.. but nvidia still suports it
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Novus: did you add the xorg edgers (update) PPA, not the bleeding edge and install the nvidia-current package?
[13:54] <MacGuges> I wonder if it was a mistake to have him upgrade from 12.04.  Would it be difficult to downgrade?
[13:55] <Novus> yup
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Novus: I have a 6250LE, works great with proprietary drivers
[13:55] <theadmin> MacGuges: Impossible
[13:55] <Tex_Nick> MacGuges:  ActionParsnip & theadmin have the best advice there ... however i've been running 12.10 since a couple days after it was released ... it's been rock solid on my platform ;-)
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> MacGuges: you will need to reinstall from scratch to get the earlier version
[13:55] <Xaro> Hey guys, is there an Ubuntu Server channel?
[13:55] <theadmin> Xaro: Yes, it's #ubuntu-server
[13:55] <Novus> wish I knew
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Novus: did you try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    to generate an xorg.conf file?
[13:55] <Novus> it's got to be gnome
[13:56] <Novus> everytime I use KDE it works fine
[13:56] <Novus> yes
[13:56] <Novus> I even locked out all drivers but the one I dl from nvida to see if ther was a conflict and purged existinge oned
[13:57] <Xaro> Thanks.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Novus: did you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ?
[13:57] <Novus> I'd love to know what the computers are that they alpha test this OS system on
[13:57] <elixir> ActionParsnip: installed wicd, my wifi works fine as i told above. Connecting a lan shows me up: : "Cable Unplugged" !
[13:58] <geronimo_> join #rubysur
[13:58] <Novus> yes
[13:58] <theadmin> elixir: On a wi-fi connection, open up "Additional drivers", see if there's one for your NIC
[13:58] <Novus> I been workign on this POS for 12 hours straigh
[13:59] <soliloquy1> I run a macbook air with refit - upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now grub can't find ubuntu?
[13:59] <Novus> i offered to show my screen as IO have 2 desktops side by side
[13:59] <Novus> I could ahve put a cam in it for a walk through too, but I was told "that's not necssary"
[14:00] <theadmin> !recovergrub | soliloquy1
[14:00] <theadmin> soliloquy1: That will likely help in your situation, too.
[14:00] <Novus> i wonder if the ubuntu phones will have this much trouble
[14:01] <elixir> ActionParsnip: Installed jockey-kde and jockey-gtk. Still "Cable Unplugged" :(
[14:01] <Novus> gnome on a phone,.. I can see the thing bursting into flames now
[14:02] <theadmin> elixir: Err, just installing jockey won't do much, you have to run it for it to find drivers
[14:04] <elixir> theadmin: on searching, it shows me up drivers for graphics, which are not useful right now !
[14:05] <theadmin> elixir: Hm, okay. After plugging in a cable, run "ifconfig" and see if there are any eth* interfaces.
[14:05] <elixir> theadmin: eth0
[14:06] <theadmin> elixir: Try to bring it up: sudo ip link set eth0 up ; sudo dhclient eth0
[14:07] <AaronMT> System Uptime: 2 Days, 12 Hours, 49 Minutes, 51 Seconds - Textual Uptime: 1 Hour, 37 Seconds
[14:08] <elixir> theadmin: sudo ip link set eth0 up  is succesful, while sudo dhclient eth0 stucks. it hangs just a cursor blinking
[14:08] <theadmin> elixir: Okay, I assume your ethernet interface does not provide DHCP. You have to configure the IP manually with wicd then.
[14:09] <llutz> elixir:LANG=C  sudo ethtool eth0|grep "Link detected"
[14:10] <elixir> llutz: do i need to write this whole in terminal?
[14:10] <elixir> theadmin: same lan works in another ubuntu pc.
[14:11] <theadmin> elixir: Err, okay, is that PC running wicd too?
[14:11] <elixir> theadmin: No
[14:11] <theadmin> elixir: Well then try to get NetworkManager back on... Why would you want wicd anyway
[14:12] <elixir> theadmin: Ok. I am doing that, what next but. I am still stuck on the same place :(
[14:13] <theadmin> Well I had some problems with wicd before, NM never failed me on the other hand.
[14:13] <theadmin> If both NM and wicd fail we can assume the problem is with drivers... Which is extremely strange, I've never seen a wired NIC that'd fail with Ubuntu except.... oh, the nvidia nforce one.
[14:14] <theadmin> I still have no idea how to get that one up
[14:15] <elixir> theadmin: so there is no solution? or someone else could help me please/? or could u redirect me to someone else who may have known its solution please?
[14:15] <stonedmind> Hey guys, who get frizzes on IvyBridge and Intel HD4000?
[14:15] <llutz> elixir: sry i got disconnected, did you run that command? what was the output?
[14:16] <theadmin> elixir: I suggest leaving your question on askubuntu.com, you'll likely get an answer, but try to provide as many details as possible (the fact you're running wicd, the commands you tried and their output, your NIC model if you know it)
[14:16] <MacGuges> but my dad has reported a frozen display, after I'd restarted the lightdm service and killed the X process. Does this indicate a problem with the nouveau driver? He reports seeing the pointer & time remaining stuck in the same place after lightdm had restarted.
[14:17] <elixir> llutz: I was confused so I asked you whether I need to run this whole command on terminal: LANG=C  sudo ethtool eth0|grep "Link detected"
[14:17] <llutz> elixir: yes, but you might need to install ethtool before
[14:17] <elixir> llutz: I am sorry, i am really new to this.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> stonedmind: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:18] <MacGuges> pardon me, just scratching my head. what could freeze up redrawing his display so badly?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> MacGuges: tried Unity2D?
[14:18] <the_dark_knight> Hi, How can I see the progress of file copy for cp? I see the progress in % for scp.
[14:18] <elixir> llutz: Ok , i am doing it.
[14:18] <MacGuges> I'm logged in via ssh if anyone has suggestions for troubleshooting.
[14:18] <theadmin> the_dark_knight: Install gcp from the repos and use that (syntax identical to that of cp)
[14:18] <seednode> What's the name of the Atheros wifi card driver package?
[14:18] <MacGuges> ActionParsnip: I don't believe so.
[14:19] <MacGuges> ActionParsnip: he has just the stock ubuntu 12.10 packages for amd64.
[14:19] <new2b> would running a "ls | grep foo" have any kind of side effects on server performance?
[14:19] <Touhou11> MacGuges: Are you using the Unity interface? If so, it's currently rather buggy. Recommending switching to XFCE instead
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> MacGuges: ah, no 2D there
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> the_dark_knight: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/cp-progress-bar-407381/
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> the_dark_knight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316707
[14:20] <llutz> new2b: if it has, you should rethink your hardware-choice of the server
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> the_dark_knight: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7128575/how-can-i-make-a-progress-bar-cp-copying-a-directory
[14:21] <new2b> thats what i was thinking, someone just came back to me saying i shouldnt run any commands on the server that are not 'sanctioned' because it will effect server performance
[14:21] <theadmin> new2b: If you have like billions of files, then yeah, it will have some effect... maybe.
[14:21] <new2b> there are 19k files
[14:21] <theadmin> Doesn't sound like a lot to me
[14:22] <new2b> i cant imagine it having an effect, but thought i might be missing something (i'm a newbie)
[14:22] <PrincessLuna> Hi, I have a broadcom  BCM43228. I installed the proprietary driver from "restricted drivers". It works but only connects at G 2.4Ghz when it supports N 5 Ghz.
[14:22] <the_dark_knight> ActionParsnip: thanks
[14:22] <PrincessLuna> The driver in use is wl
[14:22] <stonedmind> ActionParsnip: unfortunately i has no access to my laptop now. Can i send it to you later?
[14:22] <theadmin> new2b: Instead of "ls | grep foo", why not just use "ls *foo*"? Unless you're matching against a regular expression, that'd be faster.
[14:24] <new2b> theadmin: doh, forgot about that
[14:24] <elixir> llutz: it had no output.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> stonedmind: sure
[14:25] <llutz> elixir: pastebinit the output of "sudo ethtool eth0" then please
[14:25] <llutz> !paste | elixir
[14:25] <_sundar_> hi
[14:26] <_sundar_> i'm trying to compile compat-wireless-3.8.1 from linux stable backports
[14:27] <_sundar_> the device is an atheros based card
[14:27] <_sundar_> the module compiles fine but refuses to load
[14:27] <elixir> llutz: paste.ubuntu.com/5604907/
[14:27] <_sundar_> there are lots of symbols which are of a different version
[14:27] <llutz> elixir: check your lan-cable, "Link detected: no"
[14:28] <Touhou11> PrincessLuna: Have you tried using the latest driver version? http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[14:28] <elixir> llutz: But same lan cable works on another laptop
[14:28] <_sundar_> could someone point to a known compat-wireless source that would compile for 3.8.1?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> _sundar_: do you mean kernel 3.8.1?
[14:28] <llutz> elixir: lspci | grep -i ether                what chipset/nic is it?
[14:28] <elixir> llutz: I mean on any other laptop and pc
[14:28] <suigeneris> hello
[14:28] <_sundar_> ActionParsnip, yes
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> _sundar_: we cannot support 3rd party kernels here
[14:29] <_sundar_> ActionParsnip, its from ubuntu not the one I compiled
[14:29] <kroshkamyau> How can I forward port from my localhost to another IP? So if I send data to localhost:6666 it would go to "whateverip":6666
[14:29] <_sundar_> ActionParsnip, i'm just trying to compile compat-wireless for 3.8.1 generic
[14:29] <elixir> llutz: paste.ubuntu.com/5604918/
[14:30] <PrincessLuna> Touhou11: how would I identify the current version, I would assume the latest has the same issue as I tried 13.04 and experience the same issue
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> _sundar_: 3.8 is a raring kernel. I suggest you ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:30] <_sundar_> ActionParsnip, ok thanks for the info
[14:31] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:31] <llutz> elixir: lsmod | grep r8169
[14:31] <suigeneris> I've been getting '/bin/sh :error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory' and ikonia advised me to run ldd against /bin/sh. I have run it and libc.so.6 exists. what to do now?
[14:32] <llutz> !info firmware-realtek
[14:32] <Touhou11> PrincessLuna: Ubuntu often ships with outdated software
[14:32] <elixir> llutz: paste.ubuntu.com/5604923/
[14:32] <Touhou11> PrincessLuna: Run "lsmod", then run "modinfo <module name>" to find the version
[14:32] <suigeneris> however, /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 is a symlink to libc-2.15.so
[14:33] <llutz> elixir: dmesg|grep 8169
[14:33] <MacGuges> I'd not known about this unity 2d >> 3d business. We've both seen graphical corruption on his pc since installing 12.10. I can appreciate the case for consolidation on 3d, but it may be prudent for my dad to regress to 12.04 LTS for his hardware. Agree?
[14:33] <suigeneris> can you advise?
[14:34] <llutz> !find /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168e-2.fw
[14:34] <suigeneris> !find /lib/libc.so.6
[14:35] <elixir> llutz: paste.ubuntu.com/5604934/
[14:36] <llutz> elixir: "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware"   does it say "already newest"?
[14:36] <suigeneris> llutz: can you advise me what to do?
[14:36] <elixir> llutz: Yes.
[14:37] <drixie> hello all
[14:37] <gnuskool> yo
[14:37] <drixie> noob question here: asides ssh, which other core services on linux listen to open ports?
[14:37] <suigeneris> llutz: I've been getting '/bin/sh :error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory' and ikonia advised me to run ldd against /bin/sh. I have run it and libc.so.6 exists. what to do now?
[14:37] <suigeneris> however, /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 is a symlink to libc-2.15.so
[14:38] <llutz> elixir: "sudo ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off"
[14:38] <llutz> suigeneris: do you try to chroot from 64bit into 32bit or vice versa?
[14:38] <gustav_> HoN hangs, visually, so I have to kill -9 it. Then when I try to start it again it takes a long time (3x from functional) to start and just hangs immediately. Any ideas on how to fix it?
[14:38] <gustav_> I use bumblebee.
[14:38] <elixir> llutz: YEs, done !
[14:38] <llutz> elixir: then check "sudo ethtool eth0" again for "link detected"
[14:39] <drixie> noob question here: asides ssh, which other core services on linux listen to open ports?
[14:39] <llutz> elixir: you might pull out the cable once, and replug then
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: have you checked the wine appdb for compatibility?
[14:40] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: HoN is native.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: do you run it with the exta command to make it use the nvidia gpu?
[14:40] <prakashbs> Hi... I am not able to access windows shared folder on Virtual Box VMs., same folder is getting accessed if i access through normal desktop.. any clue?
[14:40] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[14:40] <elixir> llutz: LANG=C  sudo ethtool eth0|grep "Link detected" again shows no output :( Oh God!
[14:41] <llutz> elixir: drop the grep...
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: have you tried it without?
[14:41] <llutz> elixir: just "sudo ethtool eth0" and watch the last line
[14:41] <janisozaur> can i list processes that use given module?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: have you tried in a different session, like xfce etc?
[14:41] <suigeneris> llutz: yea
[14:41] <drixie> llutz: asides ssh, which other core services on linux listen to open ports?
[14:42] <llutz> drixie: sudo netstat -tuplen
[14:42] <suigeneris> llutz: actually no. I'm trying to run that kernel
[14:42] <drixie> llutz: thanks
[14:42] <elixir> llutz: again link detected: no, BUT ONE GOOD THING. LIGHT IS BLINKING ON RE INSERTING LAN :)
[14:42] <suigeneris> s/run/boot into/
[14:43] <llutz> elixir: "sudo ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off"  again
[14:43] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5604947/
[14:43] <llutz> elixir: then again "sudo ethtool eth0" and watch the last line. still "no"?
[14:43] <elixir> llutz: Yes, and the light is still blinking.
[14:43] <elixir> llutz: * Lan Cable light.
[14:44] <suigeneris> llutz: would reinstalling without a format help?
[14:44] <llutz> elixir: drop the wifi connection, try to connect via LAN
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: try install xfce4, reboot then log into the xfce session. Is it better?
[14:44] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: I'm in Blackbox now. No difference.
[14:44] <llutz> suigeneris: honestly i don't know what your problem/solution is
[14:45] <adrianrh> Hi, I am having trouble with my bashrc file, it seems I have to use "source .bashrc" every time I open a terminal, any way of sourcing it permanently?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: all I can suggest is report a bug. I have seen few success stories with switching GPU
[14:45] <reddos> ciao non riesco a trovare il canale dovesi parla it mi dite come si fa grazie
[14:45] <elixir> llutz: I turned off the wifi, but in front of 'wired' : still "Cable unplugged" !
[14:45] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: It used to work fine.
[14:45] <elixir> llutz: So can't connect via lan
[14:45] <suigeneris> llutz: my problem is that I get that dreadful message when I try to switch kernels
[14:45] <|Anthony|> I need some guidance getting a remote machine to do backups to my ubuntu desktop. I've tried samba and sshfs. In both situations the remote user didn't have permission to read or write to the folder. Is there some special file perm i need to allow a remote user to rwx to a folder here?
[14:45] <llutz> suigeneris: yes, but i don't know _why_ you get this
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: there is a present bug though. right?
[14:45] <elixir> llutz: should i restart?
[14:46] <llutz> elixir: sudo dhclient eth0
[14:46] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: HoN works fine without bumblebee.
[14:46] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Yes, so?
[14:46] <llutz> elixir: no
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: it should be reported then
[14:46] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: To where?
[14:46] <elixir> llutz: still stucks
[14:46] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: I have reported this multiple times on...some website.
[14:46] <elixir> llutz: i.e just the cursor blinking on next line
[14:46] <cronus> prakashbs, maybe your network needs to be set as bridged if it is not
[14:46] <elixir> llutz: and no output shown
[14:47] <llutz> elixir: but ethtool reports "link detected yes"?
[14:47] <suigeneris> *sigh*
[14:48] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Hm. I did rmmod nvidia, service bumblebeed restart and now it works.
[14:48] <dawkirst> hi, I'm trying to get my second display to work, but I've got no idea where to start. Googling yields a disparate range of advice.
[14:48] <suigeneris> llutz: would a reinstall without format resolve this?
[14:48] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Not sure why it hangs though. It hangs when I don't give it input.
[14:48] <llutz> suigeneris: idk
[14:49] <suigeneris> brb then
[14:49] <elixir> llutz: o, paste.ubuntu.com/5604962/
[14:49] <elixir> llutz: No
[14:49] <llutz> elixir: "sudo ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off"  again
[14:49] <elixir> llutz: Yes, then?
[14:49] <llutz> even if it reports it is off already
[14:49] <tero> hi guys.  Now?
[14:51] <llutz> elixir: no more ideas.... try again: pull out the cable, plug it in, then "sudo ethtool -s eth0  autoneg off && sudo dhclient eth0"
[14:51] <drixie> Has anybody has success with compiling php extension for OpenCV on Ubuntu?
[14:52] <|Anthony|> so the remote machine has users bob and tom. the local machine (the remote will backup to the local) has user tom. the remote tom is able to read and write to the local but bob is not. Bob and Tom are both able to establish a connection though. What am i missing? The happens with both samba and sshfs.
[14:52] <esing> Hello
[14:52] <llutz> tero: "ls -ld /lost+found"  might be the correct date
[14:52] <elixir> llutz: stucks :(
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: what are they connecting using?
[14:53] <tero> llutz thank you
[14:53] <esing> Does Ubuntu already come with my graphic card drivers (my graphiccard is hd 7750) or do I have to install it myself in ubuntu?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> !ati | esing
[14:53] <llutz> elixir: sorry, appears i cannot really help
[14:53] <esing> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[14:54] <adrianrh> Hi! can anyone help me permanently source my .bashrc file?
[14:54] <elixir> llutz: how can i use additional drivers to chek whether eth driver is activated or not?
[14:54] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, i've tried using samba and sshfs. both as a remote mount point. The ultimate goal is to set it up in fstab to have automated offsite backups.
[14:54] <jrib> adrianrh: what do you actually want to accomplish?
[14:54] <dfdf> hi
[14:54] <llutz> elixir: the driver you need is the r8169, which you're already using
[14:55] <adrianrh> jrib: every time I open a terminal, I have to write source .bashrc to be able to use it, I wish I didn't have to do that
[14:55] <llutz> elixir: "uname -a"  what kernel version are you using?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> adrianrh, you may have edited it and left a line without the '
[14:55] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, at this point it isn't a connection issue, or even a mounting issue. It seems to be all in the file permissions.
[14:55] <|Anthony|> both bob and tom are able to establish a connection.
[14:56] <jrib> adrianrh: does this issue persist after a reboot? How are you determining that your .bashrc wasn't sourced?  How do you start your shell?
[14:56] <elixir> llutz: ok. paste.ubuntu.com/5604975/
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: I'd use sshfs, you can mount that in fstab, but you will need to add a small mount command in /etc/rc.local as the fstab file is processed before the network comes up
[14:57] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, that was the intention :) first things first though. I need to be able to write to the intended folder lol
[14:57] <adrianrh> jrib: I am logging onto a community server, so I am not able to reboot it, I determine it because I have some commands in my bashrc that does not work until I write "source .bashrc"
[14:58] <|Anthony|> originally tried with samba as i thought it would be easier since it's all on a lan
[14:58] <BluesKaj> adrianrh, accurate info aleays helps
[14:58] <jrib> adrianrh: are you sourcing .bashrc in your ~/.profile?
[14:58] <jrib> (it's sourced by default there in ubuntu)
[14:59]  * canihojr buenas
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: the access is dictated by the account you connect with when the connection is made, just like your user right now has an amount of access
[14:59] <adrianrh> jrib, what exactly do you mean? I don't have a .profile file in my home directory
[14:59] <jrib> adrianrh: is this ubuntu?
[15:00] <elixir> Can someonje help me. LAn light is blinking, my lan driver is properly installed but in wired connection, it shows me up: "Cable unplugged".
[15:00] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, but if the uid is different between server and client...
[15:00] <|Anthony|> or gid for that matter
[15:01] <esing> ActionParsnip, I wonder if it is better to go with the kernel graphic driver because I haven't had any segfaults yet? On archlinux I used the catalyst drivers and had regular segfaults
[15:01] <|Anthony|> i understand local file perms pretty well, but this remote file perms part is kicking my butt
[15:01] <|Anthony|> lol
[15:01] <adrianrh> jrib: yes
[15:02] <adrianrh> cat /proc/version
[15:02] <adrianrh> Linux version 3.2.0-35-generic (buildd@allspice) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: the name is what you authenticate with which has a UID, not sure how the data is stored on the server side. You could always use tar wit hthe option to retain the UIDs etc but tar direct over the link
[15:02] <adrianrh> BluesKaj, what exact info do I need to give?
[15:02] <jrib> adrianrh: then you can find a copy of the default ~/.profile in /etc/skel/.profile.  Use that as it will source your ~/.bashrc if it exists.  As long as you don't also have a ~/.bash_login or ~/.bash_profile, ~/.profile should be used
[15:03] <adrianrh> jrib, I got a bash_login
[15:03] <adrianrh> sorry, no
[15:03] <jrib> adrianrh: then make sure it sources ~/.bashrc.  You can see the code for that in /etc/skel/.profile
[15:06] <adrianrh> jrib, thanks, the copied .profile  includes the .bashrc. This should work then? I can be certain that ubuntu will run my .profile every time I log in?
[15:06] <jrib> adrianrh: .profile will NOT be sourced if you have .bash_login
[15:07] <adrianrh> jrib, I was mistaken  earlier, I dont have a .bash_login, what I have is a .bash_history
[15:07] <nyc-h0st> all, odd dnsmasq problem, seems to be picking up the interface dns servers instead of the resolv.dnsmasq, conf file points it to resolv.dnsmasq, any ideas?
[15:07] <jrib> adrianrh: then as long as you don't have a .bash_profile either, .profile should get sourced when you login (and in turn source .bashrc as well)
[15:08] <adrianrh> jrib, thankyou very much
[15:08] <MacGuges> I believe we want to regress to 12.04 LTS to switch to Unity 2D, but today is not a convenient time.  But my dad needs a stable environment for today.  Which window manager would be a most quick & easy alternative for him? I think twm would me too bare.
[15:08] <jrib> adrianrh: no problem
[15:10] <esing> Should I use upstart in Ubuntu to automount my ntfs-3g sata drive on startup?
[15:10] <jpds> esing: No, use /etc/fstab.
[15:10] <iceroot> esing: you should use /etc/fstab
[15:10] <iceroot> !fstab | esing
[15:10] <esing> jpds, iceroot  Ok thanks
[15:13] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, having a persistent critical error. Running 10.04 on an old toshiba. Occasionally the screen will go black, in the corner it flashes through text, and I can see some normal active processes, but a Hangcheck Timeout keeps showing up.  I'm thinking either crappy graphics card getting hot, or an unstable driver/install?
[15:14] <gray--> hi all, does anyone know the size of the repo for quantal-updates and backports for amd64?   i've mirrored locally the main repo, just thinking about mirroring the others daily too
[15:16] <esing> Should I set dev as a mount option or not? I don't understand what it does "Interpret character or block special devices on the filesystem."
[15:17] <gray--> esing: i think i missed your question, can you ask again?
[15:22] <avi143> I am medical student. Is it useful for me to learn internals of linux. I am intrested and know programming (i think).
[15:23] <gray--> anyone know the size of quantal-updates repository?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> gray--, they're just links
[15:26] <gray--> links to...?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> packages
[15:26] <gray--> so if i decide to mirror the quantal-updates repo using apt-mirror, it'll just add symlinks in?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> gray--, depends on which sources/rpos you have enabled
[15:26] <gray--> as above, amd64
[15:27] <gray--> (apols if you've joined since then)
[15:27] <raj> why isn't openbox listed here? http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/10-of-the-best-linux-window-managers-909223
[15:27] <raj> it's a poor window manager?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> gra a mirror is a mirror, just a repository like any other , just adiffernt location
[15:29] <BluesKaj> gray--, ^
[15:30] <gray--> BluesKaj: i've mirrored the quantal repo locally, which was ~100gb, but i haven't mirrored quantal-updates or quantal-backports, and i'd like to find out how big they are before i mirror them
[15:32] <BluesKaj> ok a local repos /provider ... dunno never tried that
[15:33] <esing> The fstab option 'defaults' comes with rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async ; As you can see there is no  atime / noatime / relatime option; Which atime / noatime / relatime option does Linux take as default?
[15:33] <gray--> no worries, trying to build lots of VMs without having to go out to the internet lots of times to get varying packages
[15:34] <fidel> gray--: take a look at apt-cacher-ng
[15:34] <fidel> easier/less bandwidth-waste for such things
[15:34] <ikonia>  /away not here
[15:34] <ikonia> oops
[15:34] <gray--> fidel: that's my other option :)
[15:35] <gray--> but fidel, you sound like you might be a man 'in the know'.... any ideas?
[15:35] <fidel> gray--: ideas on what?
[15:36] <gray--> the size of quantal-updates
[15:36] <fidel> gray--: nop - using apt-cacher-ng here - so i dont mirror the entire repo ;)
[15:37] <gray--> it does feel like a more sensible option to use the cacher.... can you set your own cache policies?  revalidation and so on/
[15:37] <gray--> ?
[15:39] <sandeepr> i have 12.04 server with no gui. is there a way to use aptoncd only from cli?
[15:47] <afflicto> What's a good IDE for python dev?
[15:49] <iceroot> sandeepr: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/
[15:50] <ascheel> When using 'logrotate' can you specify a 'rotate' parameter greater than 2 digits like 1000?
[15:50] <tama> Hi all. I am looking for a nice tutorial about squid3 on ubuntu 12.04 on the internet but it seems I can't. All the tutorials are for squid2. I want to use squid as bandwidth manager and caching server. Does anyone know where I can get it? The https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html are too high tech for me. Thank you very much before. :)
[15:51] <Touhou11> afflicto: Eclipse
[15:52] <Touhou11> tama: If that basic guide is too advanced, you'll struggle to use Squid. It's intended to be setup by people with technical knowledge, not end-users
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> tama: plenty of youtube guides
[15:53] <sandeepr> iceroot, thanks for the link. however it does not server my purpose. my intention is to simplify the installation of packages and always have a tested build so it does not break the environment
[15:53] <delkin> Hi everyone! Some days ago I came here asking you about a grub problem I am having. It basically gets stuck even if I place GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 etc... I think I found the source of the problem but I still have no solution: I believe that my bios is doing something that some previously pressed keys remain in the buffer and when grub is loaded those keys are sent to grub and grub blocks. Is there a way to avoid Grub from being sensitive to keyboard input?
[15:54] <leptone> ive got 64 bit 12.04. trying to follow http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/connecting-to-your-apple-time-capsule-in-ubuntu seeing this error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/5605113/
[15:56] <aluno> s
[15:57] <tama> Hi Touhou11 thanks for the reply. I want to learn. That's why. I basicly knows about IP, gateway, and DNS now, and also ssh and terminal, with basic routing, and network. Does this still not sufficient to learn? I really don't understand, for example, why we need to change the TCP port to 3128 on the ubuntu guide.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> tama: you don't as long as nothing else is using that port
[15:57] <tama> Hi ActionParsnip, thanks for your reply. Can you suggest me what should I search? The keyword. Since english is not my primary language. Thanks before. :D
[15:59] <Touhou11> tama: You don't _have_ to change the port... the guide probably suggests it because default ports are often targetted maliciously, and also 8888 is easier to remember
[16:00] <raj> what is the dolphin package called? it's not kdebase-dolphin, as I saw online
[16:00] <tama> ActionParsnip, what I was trying to said is, is there any tutorial about 12.04's squid3 with something like: "Okay, so your computer behaves like this. That is because this. Now, what you need to do is this. This command means that. So, go here, config this, and then you restart this. Now try this thing on the computer to see if it is working or not." That kind of tutorial. Is there any? thanks. :)
[16:00] <MacGuges> I've installed the lubuntu-desktop on my dad's ubuntu system.  Now that those packages have installed, how does he switch to running lubuntu and lxde?
[16:00] <lunitik> raj, use the tools available: apt-cache search dolphin
[16:01] <MacGuges> I need to give him instructions because I'm trying to avoid walking downstairs on my sprained ankle.
[16:01] <afflicto> I just installed apache2. Copied the default site file to a new one and set the directives to /home/afflicto/www but I'm getting 403 now. Please help!
[16:01] <MindSpark> hi, does anyone know if a minus sign is allowed in the crontab command field?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> tama: I used youtube to set mine up
[16:02] <tama> more like study cases than blind tutorial.
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: you can always escape it ;)
[16:02] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip:  with a \ like anything else?
[16:02] <lunitik> MacGuges, When he's logging in, there should be a "session" option that will give a list of installed desktops... he can choose it there.
[16:02] <Touhou11> afflicto: Have you allowed apache to see that directory?
[16:02] <MindSpark> ithen it must be something else that the cron parser doesn't like I guess
[16:03] <afflicto> Touhou11: how do I know?
[16:04] <afflicto> Touhou11: oh wait.. the apache process runs as a group or user so I need to give it access to the files?
[16:04] <Touhou11> afflicto: Yes, it needs to have read access to that directory and files
[16:06] <afflicto> Touhou11: Ok how would I do that?
[16:07] <Touhou11> afflicto: Use "chmod"
[16:08] <Touhou11> afflicto: I suggest reading a tutorial on how permissions work in Unix
[16:08] <afflicto> Touhou11: ok
[16:09] <TehAndrewRyan> I have a pretty advanced (to me anyway) idea I want to accomplish. Basically, I'm running a Minecraft server, and I want some communcation between the forums we have and the server itself. The idea I have is that I want to send a command with a variable to the server computer (different host than the forums) after the user has registered on the forums, the variable being their in-game name to be used in a promotion command. I've figured out how to send
[16:12] <MacGuges> lunitik:ok, I'll tell my dad to look for "session" at his login screen.
[16:12] <eN_Joy> my company's server got hit by rootkit exploit, it's on redhat, although my private box is on ubuntu. i wonder if we ubuntu'ers are also exposed to rootkit?
[16:13] <sajan> Anybody have any suggestions/tips...or recommendations on a decent laptop that will run Ubuntu flawlessly?  Budget is around $1100.  Want at least 128GB SSD and 8GB RAM.  Looked at System76, and have a build in shopping cart...but want to shop around.  Just wondering what I should be looking out for when it comes to compatibility.
[16:14] <dragonfly> Hi guys. I need some help with this frustrating bug which has displace the desktop area to down right by about an inch.
[16:14] <leptone> do i need to worry about theses warnings? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5605157/
[16:14] <dragonfly> can anyone take a look /
[16:15] <dragonfly> anyone around for help ?
[16:16] <coventry> I've edited some drives out of /etc fstab, because they're no longer present on the system.  However, the boot process keeps halting to tell me they're not available and waiting for me to tell it to skip over them.  What do I need to change to tell it to stop doing that?
[16:16] <dragonfly> someone please take a look at this http://askubuntu.com/q/266282/86733
[16:18] <Zylith> hello everyone - What would be the easiest way to downgrade my java on 12.10
[16:18] <esing> Is there no difference between dpkg -l | grep filename and apt-cache pkgnames | grep filename?
[16:18] <brightspark> coventry: have you updated GRUB since editing fstab?
[16:18] <lunitik> esing, There is a huge difference, dpkg only works locally, apt works remotely (it is basically wget on crack)
[16:18] <Pici> esing: apt will not know about any .deb files that you installed outside of apt-get install
[16:19] <lunitik> esing, also, you can't use apt-cache to search files... you have to use apt-file
[16:19] <Pici> esing: oops, I misread, listen to lunitik.
[16:19] <coventry> brightspark: Yes.  "grub-install --recheck /dev/sda" and "grub-mkconfig > /boot/grub/grub.cfg".  But I am relatively inexperienced with grub, so I might have done something wrong, there.
[16:21] <esing> lunitik, Pici I see, thanks
[16:21] <brightspark> coventry: That's all I'd have done, too.  Can you provide the exact text of the error message?
[16:22] <lunitik> Pici, Your statement is actually just wrong though, apt doesn't deal with .deb's at all, it knows nothing about them, it fetches files and throws them over to dpkg... aptitude used to read dpkg outputs for some things, but that was not via libapt
[16:22] <lunitik> Pici, Not being rude, just trying to inform
[16:24] <coventry> brightspark: No, I can't give you the exact message.  It doesn't seem to appear in /var/log.  It's something like "Unable to mount <blah> to /extra because it is not yet available.  Press M to wait for mount, or S to skip."
[16:24] <syncsys_> can anyone answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15342665/google-seo-indexing-subdomains
[16:24] <Pici> lunitik: I agree it doesn't.  I replaced some terms to try to make it easier to understand, but I ended up answering a different question that wasn't even asked.
[16:24] <brightspark> coventry: And skipping it works fine?
[16:24] <coventry> brightspark: yes.
[16:26] <ClientAlive> is there any way to publish a folder with ubuntu one? (not a file, an entire folder and not using and email address but to be given a url that I can give to whomever I want to get the thing).
[16:26] <coventry> dragonfly: If it's not a hardware issue, you didn't explicitly reconfigure anything, and it persists across reboots, there's a good chance it's a gnome issue.  Maybe try asking in #gnome.
[16:26] <ClientAlive> Even if there is, does that person have to be signed up to ubuntu one to get it?
[16:27] <lunitik> ClientAlive, yes... I don't think they have to be signed up, but they have to be authorized... let me check because it is something new
[16:27] <ClientAlive> lunitik: ok. thank you.
[16:27] <brightspark> coventry: Give fsck a shot, I guess- that's all I can suggest, sorry.
[16:27] <dziegler> Hi i have a quick question, is it possible to forbid the access to some ip-addresses for the PPTP-Clients? (I am useing pptpd as PPTP-Server)
[16:27] <coventry> brightspark: Thanks, will do.
[16:27] <dragonfly> coventry, it was all a sudden crash, I did nothing but working on sublime text when everything went still and after reboot it was like this
[16:27] <tm_> dragonfly: Could there be two separate (and conflicting) settings/configs?
[16:28] <dragonfly> tm_ what do you mean by two separate settings ?
[16:29] <tm_> Like two parts of the system using different configurations, which do not match.
[16:30] <lunitik> ClientAlive, can you access this file: https://one.ubuntu.com/files/#f=f%2FThis%2520is%2520a%2520test
[16:30] <dragonfly> tm_ I dont think there is any other configuration, like I said, It happened suddenly when I was working on sublime text
[16:30] <tm_> Whatever draws the background image seems to have a different idea of the screen layout than whatever put the menu there.
[16:30] <lunitik> ClientAlive, uhh, I meant this one: https://files.one.ubuntu.com/0jR7qaYHReuH1iwBglNNBQ
[16:30] <dragonfly> tm_, what do you think might be causing the problem ?
[16:31] <ClientAlive> lunitik: ok
[16:31] <ClientAlive> thx
[16:32] <lunitik> ClientAlive, Can you see the file containing "testing 123"?
[16:32] <KolakCC> Can anybody please help me with debugging my mouse scroll wheel or tell me where I can go to get help? My mouse wheel is acting -really- strange.
[16:32] <ClientAlive> lunitik: it's a page that says: "Could not locat object."
[16:33] <ClientAlive> *locate*
[16:33] <farkgis><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:33] <lunitik> ClientAlive, Ahh, well you can also hit "Share this file" and enter an e-mail, but I don't have your e-mail... I assume that would work fine though.
[16:33] <KolakCC> When I scroll, the window position jerks around and usually goes back to where it started and it sometimes scrolls the wrong way. But it never scrolls like it used to.
[16:34] <tm_> Honestly I don't know. But I would speculate that a file has been regenerated, overwriting changes that were made somewhere else. There are so many ways to change the settings, and conflicts are not that unusual.
[16:34] <Novus> yea so get this
[16:35] <ClientAlive> lunitik: that is exactly my situation. I have a programming project I want to ask for help on. It's multi file and I would like to offer it in a public setting where the other person is probably not going to give me their emial address (another irc channel).
[16:35] <Novus> why in the hell did kubuntu just start up, no problems?
[16:35] <farkgis> ca parle  francais  ici?
[16:35] <Novus> worked right out of the box with my GPU I was fighting with for 12 hours
[16:36] <syncsys_> can anyone answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15342665/google-seo-indexing-subdomains
[16:36] <BluesKaj> !fr| farkgis
[16:36] <lunitik> ClientAlive, can throw most things on github
[16:36] <Novus> and it wasn't drivers, or anything normal I'll say that
[16:36] <lunitik> ClientAlive, Also, Google Drive etc
[16:36] <lunitik> DropBox idk how easy to share though
[16:37] <ClientAlive> lunitik: I'll check out github. As for google drive, I've used it a little but I didn't think there's a way to share it without the other persons email. Is there?
[16:37] <lunitik> Novus, Kubuntu doesn't require GPU acceloration by default.
[16:37] <dragonfly> coventry, #gnome is dead silent :( I dont think anyone is gonna look into my problem
[16:37] <lunitik> Let us pretend I can spell.
[16:38] <|Lord_Zoo|> !es
[16:38] <lunitik> dragonfly, Gnome people are actually on irc.gimp.net #gnome
[16:38] <Ri> anyone know how to fix a graphics error while trying to 12.04 off of a USB? After it runs the scripet and trys to go to the desktop the screen flashes and there is a courser.
[16:39] <lunitik> ClientAlive, You can make things public and give them the link... it contains an authentication key in the URL for the file
[16:39] <ClientAlive> lunitik: right on. I'm there now. thx
[16:41] <esing> I want to install the package ultrastar. I did: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:tobydox/ultrastardx and then sudo apt-get update and finally  sudo apt-get install ultrastar-deluxe ultrastar-deluxe-songs
[16:41] <Ri> the graphics card in the laptop is a SiS M760
[16:41] <esing> But yet the packages aren't found
[16:43] <brightspark> esing: ultrastar-deluxe-songs is only available for lucid.
[16:43] <esing> brightspark, And ultrastar-deluxe?
[16:44] <esing> It's neither found
[16:44] <brightspark> esing: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:44] <esing> brightspark, 12.10
[16:45] <brightspark> esing: The ultrastar-deluxe package had build errors for Quantal.
[16:45] <phincy> hi
[16:46] <esing> brightspark, So it has been taken off?
[16:46] <phincy> hi
[16:47] <brightspark> esing: Compiled binaries for Quantal don't exist.
[16:47] <brightspark> esing: You could try to install the ones for Precise, but that's very much an at-your-own-risk action.
[16:48] <esing> brightspark, Where do I find the deb package for Precise?
[16:48] <esing> brightspark, Could I also just install the deb from here: http://ultrastardx.sourceforge.net/usdx-downloads/usdx/ ?
[16:48] <brightspark> esing: Do you have 64-bit or 32-bit?
[16:48] <esing> 64bit
[16:50] <brightspark> esing: So the link you provided would probably work; if you have problems with it you could try https://launchpad.net/~tobydox/+archive/ultrastardx/+files/ultrastar-deluxe_1.1.0-svn-20120608-1_amd64.deb
[16:50] <brightspark> esing: Good luck
[16:50] <esing> brightspark, Thanks
[16:51] <TehAndrewRyan> I have a pretty advanced (to me anyway) idea I want to accomplish. Basically, I'm running a Minecraft server, and I want some communcation between the forums we have and the server itself. The idea I have is that I want to send a command with a variable to the server computer (different host than the forums) after the user has registered on the forums, the variable being their in-game name to be used in a promotion command. I've figured out how to send
[16:52] <Sjajne_Niti> how to remove zeitgeist from start up, but totally? ;d
[16:52] <Sjajne_Niti> I removed it, but some zeitgeist processes are still running
[16:53] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: the rest was cut off.......
[16:53] <TehAndrewRyan> gnuskool: What was cut off?
[16:53] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: the message seemed incomplete
[16:54] <TehAndrewRyan> gnuskool: How so?
[16:54] <rmemory> quit
[16:54] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: well, obviously not to you, so nevermind
[16:55] <SonikkuAmerica> rmemory: try /quit
[16:55] <rmemory> thanks
[16:56] <TehAndrewRyan> gnuskool: <.< would you be as kind as to say what's missing in there? If what you're trying to say is that I've not supplied you with enough information, please do tell me what else you need to know as it's kinda hard to guess when you barely know this stuff.
[16:57] <KolakCC> what do you want
[16:57] <afflicto> Ok so I've been fiddling with this for an hour now. On my laptop I have the exact same setup on the same ubuntu 12.10 and it works great. But on my desktop I'm getting 403 forbidden whenever I enable my home/afflicto/public_html site. Anyone?
[16:57] <DrZaius> [M T>
[16:58] <jhutchins_wk> afflicto: Likely that the permissions on the files or directory are not correct.
[16:58] <afflicto> jhutchins_wk: What permission do they need?
[16:59] <afflicto> jhutchins_wk: I chmod'ed to 755
[16:59] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: the post you had seemed to be incomplete, but for clarity - what is it you're trying to achieve?
[17:00] <jhutchins_wk> afflicto: What do the server's logs say?
[17:00] <phincy> afflicto: do you have any log files enabled for it?
[17:00] <afflicto> I don't know about log files. I saw one log file where it said "permission denied" all the time
[17:01] <phincy> usually for Apache, files will need 644 permission and for directories 755
[17:01] <pianogmx> hey so I am trying to run "sudo apt-get update" it worked at home but my campus infrastructure i think is blocking ubuntu updates
[17:01] <TehAndrewRyan> gnuskool: I want to extract the username of the most recently registered member on the forums, use that username as a variable and send it to a different computer to be used in a command on a Minecraft server through the console. Say member "example" registered on the forums, I want to extract the name "example" from the database and send it to another computer that will issue, say a promotion command using that name (like "promote example")
[17:02] <KolakCC> hardly an #ubuntu question
[17:02] <KolakCC> a*
[17:03] <pianogmx> but how would i check its my campus infrastrucutre and not something else?
[17:03] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx, are you in the "admins" group?
[17:03] <jhutchins_wk> TehAndrewRyan: I would make it a part of the registration process to send the name and/or command to the other server.  Using the name in a command via ssh to either store the name remotely or execute whatever action remotely would probably work.
[17:03] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, im in my "sudo" group.... idk about "admins"
[17:04] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: Well what kind of error are you getting?
[17:04] <jhutchins_wk> pianogmx: What specific error do you get?
[17:04] <pianogmx> im getting a whole bunch of "Unable to connect errors" with the ip address
[17:04] <pianogmx> want me to pastebin it?
[17:04] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: ok, what forums are you currently running, are they php based?
[17:04] <jhutchins_wk> pianogmx: Can you ping those servers?
[17:05] <TehAndrewRyan> jhutchins_wk: So in the registration form I'd code it to send the command via SSH as soon as they're entered their username to be used as a variable?
[17:05] <jhutchins_wk> TehAndrewRyan: Something like that.
[17:05] <TehAndrewRyan> gnuskool: Simple Machines, and yes
[17:05] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, yes I can ping the server
[17:05] <LuxuryMode> should i grab the 64 bit version of ubuntu if im using a 64 bit processer (core i7 on my mac)?
[17:05] <jhutchins_wk> pianogmx: Can you connect to the server with a web browser?
[17:05] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: How do you plan on inputting the ssh command into the console window?
[17:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !mac
[17:06] <jhutchins_wk> KolakCC: ssh can be run from a script.
[17:06] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, i get a not found error on the server
[17:06] <SonikkuAmerica> LuxuryMode: ^^ That. And yes, probably.
[17:06] <pianogmx> "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_US"
[17:06] <KolakCC> jhutchins_wk: However, the problem is that the console is already running.
[17:06] <gnuskool> TehAndrewRyan: the way I'd do it is by REST web service, so the reg process would add 'example' user as http://myserver/user/example
[17:06] <jhutchins_wk> pianogmx: Do you mean server not found or file not found?
[17:06] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: I kind of know, I at least figured out the way to send the command to the screen running the server once you're connected
[17:06] <KolakCC> jhutchins_wk: He would have to ssh in and then find a way to add the command to the console window IN the minecraft server
[17:07] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: Like what? I'm interested.
[17:07] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk,, requested url not found
[17:07] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, i also switched to another mirror and got a similar result
[17:07] <jhutchins_wk> KolakCC: No, not at all.  ssh <server> <command> works fine.
[17:07] <KolakCC> jhutchins_wk: Then how would he input a command into the existing minecraft_server console?
[17:07] <jhutchins_wk> TehAndrewRyan: You would want to set up keys so you don't have to worry about passwords.
[17:07] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: With screen -S <screen name> -X eval 'stuff "<command>\015"'
[17:08] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: Oh, okay. Good to know!
[17:09] <pianogmx> switched my sources to duke and mit (usa) and still getting errors.
[17:09] <adamx> dumb question. is chmod not permenant?
[17:09] <lunitik> adamx, it is, why?
[17:09] <phincy> sure it is
[17:09] <mgolisch> adamx: it should be
[17:09] <adamx> I set up Samba on a machine
[17:09] <TehAndrewRyan> jhutchins_wk: So basically ssh <server> <command> sends a command over SSH without actually "connecting" to it (as in you stay connected even after issuing the command)
[17:09] <adamx> and it seems like once a day or so
[17:09] <jhutchins_wk> adamx: Depends on what.  Some stuff gets re-created at boot.
[17:09] <adamx> I have to go in and chmod -r 777 /shared
[17:10] <adamx> It's a folder on the root of the drive
[17:10] <adamx> Is that possibly why it's reverting?
[17:10] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, so basically i think my campus is filtering out requests to update somehow
[17:10] <adamx> To my knowledge, this machine should not reboot.
[17:10] <mgolisch> adamx: no it shouldnt be
[17:10] <jhutchins_wk> TehAndrewRyan: It does it without an interactive shell.  Test with something like ls: ssh <server> ls -l
[17:10] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, multiple sources through unable to connect errors
[17:11] <jhutchins_wk> pianogmx: They could block ports or server addresses, wouldn't make sense to block specific files.
[17:11] <TehAndrewRyan> jhutchins_wk: How does it work with the password though? I mean it still requires a password
[17:12] <phincy> TehAndrewRyan : you can try setting up ssh keys without passwords.
[17:12] <pianogmx> pianogmx, i just dont know why my campus would all of a sudden block mail ports from thunderbird and updating
[17:13] <pianogmx> jhutchins_wk, my windows in vm updates fine but linux is censored (cries)
[17:14] <TehAndrewRyan> phincy: No way of doing it with a password? Also, the server is running on a different user than the root, so it's telling me it can't find a screen session because of that. Can I choose what user I want to issue the command on?
[17:14] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: connect as root@yourmachine
[17:14] <pianogmx> damit just turned into a dance club in the cafe
[17:15] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: You can ping it fine but not anything else...
[17:15] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, yes i can resolve a ping but can get new updates
[17:16] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: You mean *can't
[17:16] <marvindoppelt> after updating my ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS won't start - just hangs with a dark screen of death with a prompt.  What could be the cause?
[17:16] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, yes.
[17:17] <cerebrate> i use lubuntu and i expanded my repos tremendously but i would like the app "gdiskdump" in the repos until i get better at linux
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx, I assume you're either ssh'd into it or connected directly to an ethernet socket...?
[17:17] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, im on a campus wifi network
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: Can you describe this "dark screen of death"
[17:18] <Hyperiant> Ubuntu is lagging hard on a system it really shouldn't be lagging on.  I suspect it's because of lack of video drivers.  How do I fix this?
[17:18] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: Can you access a web page via, say, a browser
[17:18] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[17:18] <phincy>  TehAndrewRyan: yes.. but the user should be present in the server
[17:18] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, nope... just get errors
[17:18] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: Probably the issue, then, lies with your connection config. Kind of an !xy thing if you will.
[17:19] <pianogmx> !xy
[17:19] <n8w> im trying to get an instant cpu usage by usin: top -b -n1 | awk 'NR==3 { print $5 }' but the value doesnt change...htop or top show that the value changes
[17:19] <marvindoppelt> SonikkuAmerica, on powering my laptop, a blank screen appears with a prompt
[17:19] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, i had a fresh install last week.. no extra config.  last week worked, this week no work
[17:19] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, plainly stated
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: A grub rescue prompt or a console login?
[17:20] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: Okay, next issue is that it says "-X: One or two arguments required" and then "-X: Unknown command "say" (say being a command that broadcasts a message)
[17:20] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: (this being printed in the screen session once I've attached it)
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: OK... first thing to ask is: Does it work for other people using Linux or Android?
[17:20] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: To add to that, it works excellent to run the screen -S command from the same user if I disconnect from the screen session
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: (If you don't know we can skip this step)
[17:21] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, or better question find another person on CAMPUS that may have it working.  most people on CAMPUS use Windows or iMac
[17:21] <marvindoppelt> SonikkuAmerica, Grub appears and am able to select ubuntu but thereafter appears the prompt
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: Is it just a ">"? Or...?
[17:22] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: yeah, I think that's because the minecraft console isn't a real console.. you'll probably have to find a way to input stuff into it
[17:22] <marvindoppelt> SonikkuAmerica, _
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: Same here... I'm the only Ubuntu user for miles...
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: Is it blinking?
[17:22] <marvindoppelt> SonikkuAmerica, yup
[17:23] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: It doesn't make sense to me though, the exact same command works if I don't use the SSH part, if I input that command from outside of the screen session
[17:23] <pianogmx> SonikkuAmerica, im going to hunt down this unix/linux professor on campus.
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: You have a case of the hanging cursor. Can you reboot into recovery mode?
[17:23] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: is the server running in a graphical environment?
[17:24] <SonikkuAmerica> pianogmx: OK. S/He might be able to help you a bit more...
[17:24] <|Anthony|> did i read "Minecraft"?
[17:24] <linguini> I want to install http://search.cpan.org/~ingy/YAML/lib/YAML/Any.pm , but not in ~/.cpan .  I see that ubuntu has many perl packages, but I'm having trouble finding one for the above module.
[17:24] <TehAndrewRyan> KolakCC: No, the server is firstly run on a computer without a graphical environment, has a -nogui tag on boot and launches a screen session on boot which is what I use to access the "console"
[17:25] <marvindoppelt> SonikkuAmerica, Yes I can but then again the fail safe mode fails telling me that my input devices can't be detected
[17:25] <linguini> Is there some way to find the above perl module in the form of an ubuntu/debian package?
[17:25] <gustav_> I can't access the Flash settings dialog in Firefox. Any ideas?
[17:25] <|Anthony|> TehAndrewRyan, I'm running a mc server too :) can you repeat your original question please?
[17:26] <KolakCC> TehAndrewRyan: I haven't the slightest, sorry.
[17:26] <SonikkuAmerica> marvindoppelt: I would try running dpkg in the recovery menu.
[17:27] <TehAndrewRyan> |Anthony|: Oh cool :) Basically I want to get the username of a newly registered member on our forums, extract that name as a variable and send it via SSH to the computer hosting the server, where the variable would be used to, let's say promote <user>. I somehow need to figure out how to extract the name and then make it into a command to send, and I also seem to have to figure out how to input commands through the server console via SSH as it didn't
[17:28] <gustav_> Found a solution.
[17:29] <|Anthony|> TehAndrewRyan, maybe we could take this minecraft convo to pm? or even to the correct irc network
[17:29] <|Anthony|> lol
[17:29] <SonikkuAmerica> |Anthony|: Try EsperNet.
[17:29] <|Anthony|> i know
[17:29] <|Anthony|> that's what i was going to mention
[17:29] <TehAndrewRyan> |Anthony|: I asked on here because it involves a lot of ubuntu bash commands and similar :P But yeah, where do you suggest?
[17:29] <KolakCC> Why's that? It's hardly minecraft related.
[17:29] <phincy> TehAndrewRyan:  the first part "extracting user info" will require knowledge of database/table structure in your application..Once the info is availbale, you can assign the value to a variable in the server console using ssh.. this is the middle part and I guess it is the easiest
[17:30] <|Anthony|> i have a feeling that there is a plugin that will do this already
[17:30] <|Anthony|> or at least very similar
[17:30] <|Anthony|> and it really doesn't need any bashfoo at all
[17:30] <PoPpiLLs> linguini try installing libconfig-yaml-perl
[17:30] <bigbadben> is there an equivalent to gksudo?
[17:31] <bigbadben> for unity
[17:31] <|Anthony|> there should be a java listener that will wait for a signal sent from the website... maybe via php or somehting
[17:31] <SonikkuAmerica> bigbadben: If you're using KDE it's kdesudo
[17:31] <TehAndrewRyan> |Anthony|: I'd love to get some input on alternate ways of doing it if possible. Have to go for around 10 minutes now though, I'll be right back
[17:31] <SonikkuAmerica> bigbadben: But other than that not really.
[17:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !gksudo
[17:31] <|Anthony|> or if you have mysql setup on the same machine...
[17:32] <bigbadben> Thank you