[06:52] <dholbach> good morning
[07:38] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[07:38] <dholbach> hey iulian
[08:05] <ajmitch> hi dholbach, iulian
[08:17] <dholbach> hi ajmitch
[09:34] <jokerdino> we are still doing the fix it friday right?
[09:45] <dholbach> jokerdino, at least I didn't prepare anything, but if you still have something important you want to fix, please do it :-)
[09:46] <jokerdino> nothing important, was just checking if there is anything to grab
[09:47] <jokerdino> hmm, libcvs perl 0.07-4 builds here
[09:48] <micahg> jokerdino: where is that from?
[09:48] <jokerdino> i pulled it from debian
[09:49] <jokerdino> the rc bugs
[13:56] <Laney> tumbleweed: do you know why this would happen: http://paste.debian.net/163957/ ?
[13:56] <Laney> oops, remove the last src:
[13:57] <Laney> http://paste.debian.net/163958/
[13:57] <Laney> erm
[13:57] <Laney> I'm an idiot
[13:58] <Laney> I thought specifying a src: would give me build-depends, but it gives reverse-depends of all binary packages, doesn't it?
[14:00] <tumbleweed> yup
[14:01] <Laney> doh
[14:01] <Laney> also, any chance of Debian data? :-)
[14:02] <tumbleweed> it's there
[14:02] <tumbleweed> -r sid
[14:02] <Laney> can it be defaulted to on Debian?
[14:03] <tumbleweed> it is on debian
[14:03] <tumbleweed> so DEB_VENDOR=Debian should od the trick
[14:04] <Laney> cool
[14:04] <Laney> so my amazing directory switching stuff should dtrt
[14:05] <tumbleweed> :)
[14:05] <Laney> good work batman
[14:05] <Laney> carry on
[14:19] <cmars232> DONE: Jenkins-CI EC2 instance up and running. Building binaries. Development toward fixing SSL issues with PyCURL.
[14:19] <cmars232> INPROGRESS: Test & commit PyCURL branch, replace cron scripted builds with Jenkins PPA push, merge in alpha2 licensing development.
[14:19] <cmars232> BLOCKERS: None
[14:48] <s9iper1> any body have time that he can tell me that how to upload the PGP key to the ubuntu servers.. is there we need to add finger print in PGP  while uploading it because if there is no fingerprint than how the launchpad will retrive it from the ubuntu servers.. can any body help my provious key become inactive i dont know why
[16:04] <wookey> cjwatson: I've filed a dpkg-cross update to fix a couple more packages which I'm hoping we can slip in to precise as it's just config: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg-cross/+bug/986226
[16:04] <cjwatson> wookey: get it uploaded and we can review it on #ubuntu-release
[16:04] <cjwatson> unless you're asking me to sponsor :)
[16:04] <wookey> do I need to do special extra things like fill in SRU template?
[16:05] <cjwatson> s'not an sru if it's pre-release
[16:05] <wookey> I can;t upload anything to ubuntu directly, so yes I guess I'm asking for sponsorage
[16:05] <cjwatson> OK, I'll take care of it, thanks
[16:06] <wookey> I actually have a pile more dpkg-cross changes, which are probably a good thing, but wonder if it's wise to bung them all in at this stage?
[16:06] <cjwatson> probably not
[16:06] <cjwatson> simple and obvious wins a week before release
[16:06] <wookey> that's what I decided and just left it as above
[16:07] <wookey> OK. cheers.
[16:10] <cjwatson> uploaded
[16:10] <wookey> wow, that was quick :-)
[16:11] <wookey> I just realised I fogot to fill in the LP: #bugnumber for automatic closing. So will need manual update. Sorry about that
[16:12] <wookey> btw do you understand why some packages set $PACKAGE and some $PACKAGE_NAME. I tried wading through the autoconf and automake manuals but it was hard to work out what is currently favoured and what is 'old fashioned'.
[16:13] <wookey> I plan to ask the list to get chapter and verse
[16:28] <cjwatson> wookey: I dealt with the bug number by hand
[16:29] <cjwatson> wookey: PACKAGE vs. PACKAGE_NAME - different things, PACKAGE is the actual source package name and PACKAGE_NAME is what's set as the package name in configure.ac
[16:29] <cjwatson> IIRC
[16:30] <cjwatson> oh, actually not
[16:34] <cjwatson> wookey: PACKAGE is emitted by AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.  It is set to either the first arg if the deprecated three-arg form is used, or to PACKAGE_TARNAME from AC_INIT otherwise.  PACKAGE_NAME is set by AC_INIT to the first arg passed to AC_INIT.
[16:35] <cjwatson> wookey: I suspect really the modern form would be PACKAGE_TARNAME, because that's more likely to correspond to the machine-readable name of the package (e.g. "tar") rather than the human-readable description (e.g. "GNU tar").
[18:02] <aantoon> hi, will 12.04 alternate support ssd+trim+luks out of the box or do I have to do some tweaking
[18:10] <aantoon> knock knock
[18:33] <aantoon> I would love an answer
[18:36] <arand> aantoon: #ubuntu+1 might know
[18:36] <aantoon> nah, they sent me here
[19:06] <shadeslayer> aantoon: one sec
[19:10] <shadeslayer> aantoon: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2012-April/013554.html
[19:15] <aantoon> shadeslayer: thanks, nice reading :)
[19:33] <aantoon> shadeslayer: interesting reading indeed but it did not answer the question it just added more questions to it....


[07:04] <xerophyte> anybody useing postfix and saslauthd
[07:05] <xerophyte> i am getting some auth fail werror with ubuntu but fedora core just work fine .. and i tested with testsaslauthd it worked fine
[07:43] <Vaske_Car> anybody have a minute to explane me something?
[07:44] <Vaske_Car> actually I need tutorial to install required aplication to host forum
[01:03] <nawty> guys, gots a question, anyone around?
[01:03] <nawty> HostRAID, is that controller supported in the -server kernel ?
[01:04] <nawty> Intel/Adaptec afaik, SATA.
[01:04] <nawty> Standard in some of our Intel Boxen.
[01:12] <soumyadip> I suppose so
[01:12] <soumyadip> it is there in the stock kernel
[01:13] <nawty> soumyadip: it detects the two sata disks seperately, and not as the raid, where as the vanilla kernel on the gentoo install works perfectly, as does freeBSD
[01:15] <nawty> on FreeBSD it becomes ar0
[01:16] <soumyadip> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34519  <- maybe this would help
[01:16] <nawty> checking quick, :)
[04:13] <nawty> it's the SATA Hostraid, not the SCSI one.
[09:00] <highvoltage> hi there.
[09:00] <highvoltage> i need some help for someone in #edubuntu
[09:00] <highvoltage> this person has 8GB RAM on an LTSP server
[09:00] <highvoltage> so I suggested they install the server kernel.
[09:00] <highvoltage> the problem is, it brings the server to a crawl.
[09:01] <highvoltage> hi Petaris, i'm just about half way explaining your problem :)
[09:01] <Petaris> highvoltage: I didn't even know about this channel
[09:01] <Petaris> hehe
[09:01] <highvoltage> and with a 686 kernel, you'd only be able to use 4GB of the ram on that server.
[09:01] <highvoltage> so what would be the ideal Ubuntu kernel for a big LTSP server?
[09:04] <Petaris> my system is a dual opteron with 8 GB of RAM (4 per cpu) and hardware raid 1 using an LSI MegaRAID SATA PCI-X adapter
[09:14] <ivoks> highvoltage: what's the problem?
[09:14] <highvoltage> ivoks: Petaris is building a big ltsp server, with 8GB RAM
[09:14] <ivoks> ok
[09:14] <highvoltage> the 686 kernel can only see up to 4GB RAM, so he's using the ubuntu server kernel
[09:15] <ivoks> ok
[09:15] <highvoltage> but it brings the machine to a crawl very quickly
[09:15] <highvoltage> so which kernel should he use?
[09:15] <Petaris> my system is a dual opteron with 8 GB of RAM (4 per cpu) and hardware raid 1 using an LSI MegaRAID SATA PCI-X adapter
[09:15] <highvoltage> it's a dual-opteron server, btw.
[09:16] <ivoks> crawl as slow or it dies?
[09:16] <Petaris> slow
[09:16] <Petaris> very slow
[09:16] <ivoks> did you try to figure out why it's so slow?
[09:17] <Petaris> I looked a bit, but didn't find any real obvious reasons
[09:17] <highvoltage> ivoks: well, it's only slow with the server kernel, with the 386 kernel, it was apparently much faster
[09:17] <highvoltage> right Petaris?
[09:17] <Petaris> highvoltage: yes
[09:18] <ivoks> hm...
[09:19] <ivoks> run it with -server kernel
[09:19] <ivoks> and i'll be here next few hours
[09:19] <ivoks> so i can help you debug the problem
[09:20] <ivoks> what version is that?
[09:20] <mdz> highvoltage: what's up?
[09:20] <Petaris> 2.6.15-21
[09:20] <highvoltage> mdz: thanks for coming :)
[09:21] <ivoks> ok, not the latest, but...
[09:21] <highvoltage> Petaris is building a big ltsp server, with 8GB RAM
[09:21] <ivoks> Petaris: install -22 for start
[09:21] <highvoltage> the 686 kernel can only see up to 4GB RAM, so he's using the ubuntu server kernel
[09:21] <highvoltage> but it brings the machine to a crawl very quickly
[09:21] <highvoltage> so which kernel should he use?
[09:21] <mdz> he should use the server kernel
[09:21] <ivoks> to take the most of the ram - server
[09:21] <mdz> if he's having a problem with that kernel, he should report a bug and work with BenC to get it resolved
[09:22] <mdz> otherwise it's just going to bite someone else
[09:22] <highvoltage> he reports that the system runs very, very slow with the server kernel though, and that's with just one thin client connected.
[09:22] <highvoltage> mdz: ok, thanks for that feedback
[09:22] <mdz> highvoltage: that's not a feature
[09:22] <Petaris> ivoks: that is the version that kernel-image-server installed
[09:22] <ivoks> Petaris: i know, but new version is out
[09:23] <highvoltage> Petaris: i think our best bet is to track down BenC, and find out what information he needs to fix it
[09:23] <Petaris> ivoks: ok
[09:23] <ivoks> Petaris: metapackage still doesn't install it, but it will soon
[09:23] <Petaris> highvoltage: right
[09:24] <highvoltage> Petaris: i see he's on #ubuntu-kernel, let's go bug him there :)
[09:24] <ivoks> file a bug
[09:24] <ivoks> but we can work on a problem
[09:24] <Petaris> highvoltage: ok
[09:24] <highvoltage> ivoks, mdz: thanks again for pointing us in the right direction
[09:26] <ivoks> highvoltage, Petaris rarely there is a chance to work on a broken system in real time, so it would be nice if you could give some more informations here on IRC
[09:27] <ivoks> and paste everything to the launchpad bug
[09:27] <Petaris> ivoks: What info would you like?
[09:27] <ivoks> do you run it now?
[09:27] <mdz> highvoltage: np
[09:27] <Petaris> ivoks: any chance this could just be my system?
[09:28] <ivoks> Petaris: all options are open, but we have to start with "it's kernel problem" :)
[09:28] <Petaris> ivoks: yep, its running now
[09:28] <Petaris> just grabbing the -22 kernel
[09:28] <ivoks> keep an eye on load and tail syslog in other window
[09:29] <ivoks> and kernlog in other
[09:29] <highvoltage> Petaris: syslog might be handy, the output of dmesg too (perhaps there's some error somewhere)
[09:29] <highvoltage> Petaris: perhaps also the contents of /proc/cpuinfo. i suppose more informaiton is better than less.
[09:30] <Petaris> right
[09:30] <ivoks> but don't paste it here :)
[09:30] <Petaris> let me install this new kernel first
[09:30] <ivoks> ok
[09:30] <Petaris> maybe this will fix it
[09:30] <Petaris> you never know
[09:31] <ivoks> it has quite large changelog
[09:31] <ivoks> not sure how much of it is related to your problem
[09:35] <highvoltage> the k7 kernels has nothing to do with the opterons, right?
[09:36] <ivoks> no
[09:38] <Petaris> ok its in, rebooting
[09:39] <ivoks> ok
[09:40] <Petaris> server booted, booting client
[09:41] <ivoks> ah.. does server without clients works ok?
[09:41] <Petaris> don't know
[09:41] <ivoks> ok
[09:42] <Petaris> clients up
[09:42] <ivoks> now tail syslog and kernlog
[09:42] <ivoks> and open top to watch over load and apps that grab too much proc
[09:43] <Petaris> its slow again
[09:43] <ivoks> ok, can you work on it at all?
[09:44] <ivoks> just run 'uptime' to see load
[09:44] <Petaris> root@Ayumi:~#  min,  1 user,  load average: 0.40, 0.87, 0.44
[09:45] <ivoks> so, it's not load
[09:45] <Petaris> nope
[09:45] <Petaris> and top isn't showing much either
[09:45] <ivoks> oh... hm...
[09:45] <ivoks> dmesg
[09:45] <ivoks> and try to catch any error
[09:47] <ivoks> you can paste it to a file and upload it somewhere
[09:47] <Petaris> :)
[09:47] <ivoks> ok, sec...
[09:48] <ivoks> this looks ok
[09:49] <Petaris> what next then
[09:49] <ivoks> netstat -a | grep -v unix
[09:51] <ivoks> hm...
[09:51] <ivoks> didn't you say you booted clients?
[09:51] <Petaris> just one
[09:51] <ivoks> none is connected
[09:51] <Petaris> I'm not logged into it
[09:51] <Petaris> could that be why?
[09:52] <ivoks> ok, never mind...
[09:52] <ivoks> and memory is mostly free?
[09:52] <ivoks> free -m
[09:52] <Petaris> root@Ayumi:/var/log# free -m
[09:52] <Petaris>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[09:52] <Petaris> Mem:          8011        244       7767          0         10        141
[09:52] <Petaris> -/+ buffers/cache:         92       7919
[09:52] <Petaris> Swap:         6204          0       6204
[09:54] <Petaris> easier to read: http://phpfi.com/115939
[09:55] <ivoks> hm...
[09:55] <ivoks> just a sec...
[09:55] <Petaris> ok
[09:56] <ivoks> install and run saidar package
[09:57] <ivoks> and take a look at disk activity
[09:57] <Petaris> ok, sec
[10:05] <ivoks> anything abnormal?
[10:09] <Petaris> other then I'm still waiting for it to finish installing?
[10:09] <ivoks> :)
[10:09] <Petaris> :/
[10:09] <ivoks> ok...
[10:10] <ivoks> in grub
[10:10] <ivoks> add this argument to kernel:
[10:10] <ivoks> elevator=cfq
[10:14] <Petaris> add it at the end of that line?
[10:15] <ivoks> yes... kernel .... elevator=cfq
[10:15] <Petaris> added
[10:15] <ivoks> now boot that kernel
[10:15] <Petaris> ok
[10:17] <Petaris> what will that do
[10:18] <ivoks> change default io scheduler
[10:18] <ivoks> from deadline to cfq
[10:19] <ivoks> in -686 and -386 default if anticipatory
[10:19] <ivoks> and in -server deadline
[10:19] <ivoks> this is kernel tuning
[10:21] <Petaris> ok its back up
[10:21] <ivoks> it's not cpu, it's not memory, nor network
[10:21] <ivoks> so, it has to be disk :)
[10:21] <Petaris> and I was able to install saidar
[10:22] <ivoks> is it slow again?
[10:22] <Petaris> yeah, but not quite as slow
[10:23] <Petaris> http://phpfi.com/115945
[10:23] <ivoks> faster than before?
[10:23] <ivoks> but still slow
[10:23] <Petaris> yes, but not by much
[10:23] <ivoks> this comp is totally idle
[10:24] <Petaris> yeah
[10:24] <Petaris> not even a client booted yet
[10:24] <Petaris> sda is getting a writes every few secounds
[10:25] <ivoks> i guess these are nfs exports?
[10:25] <ivoks> on sda
[10:25] <Petaris> not sure
[10:26] <ivoks> i'm missing something :)
[10:26] <Petaris> me too
[10:27] <ivoks> ok, try booting with elevator=anticipatory
[10:27] <ivoks> (this is a long shot)
[10:28] <Petaris> ok, rebooting
[10:30] <Petaris> ok its up
[10:31] <ivoks> and?
[10:31] <Petaris> wth?
[10:31] <Petaris> I can't ssh to it
[10:31] <Petaris> ahh, there it goes
[10:31] <ivoks> ?
[10:32] <Petaris> still very slow
[10:33] <ivoks> ok
[10:33] <ivoks> then it's memory
[10:33] <Petaris> espeacially with X stuff
[10:33] <ivoks> X stuff?
[10:33] <ivoks> on clients?
[10:33] <Petaris> on the server
[10:33] <Petaris> I haven't booted the client yet
[10:33] <ivoks> hm...
[10:34] <Petaris> maybe it is an xorg issue
[10:34] <Petaris> naw
[10:34] <Petaris> that would show in memmory probably
[10:34] <ivoks> well, -server doesn't have preempt
[10:35] <Petaris> hrm
[10:35] <Petaris> is there anyway to add it?
[10:35] <Petaris> like as a kernel option?
[10:35] <ivoks> nope
[10:35] <Petaris> bugger
[10:35] <ivoks> pardon
[10:35] <ivoks> it has preempt
[10:36] <Petaris> oh
[10:36] <Petaris> then thats not it
[10:36] <ivoks> CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y
[10:36] <Petaris> hrm
[10:37] <ivoks> # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
[10:37] <Petaris> should it be?
[10:37] <Petaris> *for an ltsp server
[10:38] <ivoks> well, i'm not sure it's preempt problem
[10:38] <ivoks> BenC will know that better
[10:38] <ivoks> i'm really not sure
[10:39] <ivoks> anyway, report a bug
[10:39] <Petaris> hrm
[10:39] <Petaris> This is not good
[10:40] <Petaris> maybe I should just build my own kernel
[10:40] <Petaris> off of the i386 one that worked
[10:40] <ivoks> you can try with .config of -server
[10:40] <ivoks> but change preempt
[10:41] <Petaris> and add the smp and support for greater than 4 GB of RAM
[10:41] <ivoks> and then you'll know if it is preempt
[10:41] <Petaris> hrm
[10:41] <ivoks> all kernels are i386
[10:41] <ivoks> but one is -686
[10:41] <Petaris> the i386 kernel (not server) worked quite well for me
[10:42] <Petaris> but with only one cpu and 4 GB of ram
[10:42] <ivoks> -386 kernel is generic
[10:42] <ivoks> use -686
[10:42] <Petaris> hrm
[10:43] <ivoks> did you file a bug about this?
[10:43] <Petaris> no
[10:43] <Petaris> not sure what to put in it
[10:43] <Petaris> My system is slow? lol
[10:43] <ivoks> poor performance with -server kernel on ltsp server
[10:44] <ivoks> and mention that X apps are slow
[10:45] <ivoks> or all apps are slow?
[10:45] <Petaris> cli apps are slow as well, but not nearly as slow as X apps are
[10:45] <ivoks> i doubt that's preempt
[10:46] <ivoks> well... build your own kernel
[10:46] <ivoks> and you'll see how it goes, but file that bug
[10:46] <Petaris> is there anything speacial I have to do when building it?
[10:47] <ivoks> get source
[10:47] <ivoks> and copy /boot/config*-686 in .config
[10:47] <ivoks> change max ram supported and that's it
[10:47] <Petaris> I don't have a 686 config
[10:48] <ivoks> wait...
[10:48] <ivoks> is that 32bit or 64bit? :)
[10:48] <ivoks> processor
[10:49] <Petaris> opterons are 64 bit with 32 bit compatability
[10:49] <Petaris> I run 32 bit on them
[10:49] <ivoks> that's why -386 works
[10:49] <ivoks> -686 wouldn't work either
[10:50] <ivoks> get amd64 release
[10:50] <ivoks> not i386
[10:50] <Petaris> won't that break my ltsp clients?
[10:50] <Petaris> well worth a try
[10:50] <ivoks> break? why?
[10:51] <Petaris> 64 bit server enviornment with 32 bit clients?
[10:52] <Petaris> hrm
[10:52] <Petaris> where is the amd64 linux-image?
[10:52] <Petaris> I can only find the k7
[10:52] <ivoks> on amd64 cd
[10:52] <Petaris> hrm
[10:52] <ivoks> together with amd64 libc :)
[10:52] <Petaris> right
[10:53] <Petaris> I was recommended not to run that for ltsp server
[10:53] <ivoks> why?
[10:53] <Petaris> issues with clients and some of the other software
[10:54] <Petaris> ogra in #edubuntu was the one who advised that
[10:54] <ivoks> thath could be, i don't know
[10:54] <ivoks> then you have to use -386 kernel
[10:55] <Petaris> right
[10:55] <ivoks> not -686
[10:56] <Petaris> is there a specific source package I should use?
[10:56] <Petaris> and is there anything speacial I have to do when building it?
[10:56] <ivoks> apt-get install linux-source
[10:56] <Petaris> ok
[10:57] <Petaris> brb
[10:59] <Petaris> back
[11:02] <Petaris> ok, its installed
[11:02] <ivoks> you'll find the source in /usr/src
[11:03] <Petaris> ok
[11:03] <ivoks> you know how to compile a kernel?
[11:03] <Petaris> yeah
[11:03] <ivoks> great
[11:03] <Petaris> but is there anything speacial I need to know?
[11:04] <ivoks> nope...
[11:04] <ivoks> go in /usr/src/linux-...
[11:04] <ivoks> copy /boot/config*-386 in .confg
[11:04] <ivoks> .config
[11:04] <ivoks> starta make menuconfig
[11:04] <ivoks> add support for 16GB RAM
[11:04] <ivoks> and build it with make
[11:05] <Petaris> how do you create that initrd.img file in /boot
[11:06] <nawty> Hey folks, anyone round here had any experience with the Adaptec/Intel/IBM SATA HostRAid ?
[11:06] <ivoks> mkinitramfs -o /boot/my_new_initrd
[11:08] <Petaris> ivoks: don't I have to do a make old-config or something?
[11:09] <ivoks> no
[11:09] <ivoks> just run make
[11:09] <Petaris> oh
[11:09] <Petaris> I seem to remember having to do that before
[11:10] <ivoks> you runed make menuconfig
[11:10] <ivoks> and changed a configuration
[11:11] <ivoks> so oldconfig is newconfig now :)
[11:11] <Petaris> ahh
[11:11] <Petaris> ok
[11:16] <Petaris> hrm
[11:16] <Petaris> root@Ayumi:/usr/src/linux# make menuconfig
[11:16] <Petaris> -bash: make: command not found
[11:16] <Petaris> that can't be good
[11:16] <ivoks> apt-get install build-essential
[11:16] <Petaris> ok
[11:16] <ivoks> i have to go now...
[11:17] <Petaris> alright
[11:17] <Petaris> thanks for all the help
[11:17] <ivoks> i hope it will work
[11:17] <Petaris> me too
[11:17] <ivoks> read some docs about initrd
[11:17] <ivoks> i'm not sure if it will work as i said
[11:17] <Petaris> ok
[11:17] <ivoks> bye
[11:17] <Petaris> bye
[11:23] <Petaris> hrm
[11:35] <nawty> anyone?
[11:35] <Petaris> nawty: LSI MegaRAID SATA
[11:35] <Petaris> but none of the ones you listed
[11:36] <nawty> :(


[00:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: Wanna take care of fixing this? https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kwayland/
[00:19] <wxl> meeeeeebe
 @wxl, It's just a patch refresh I think :)
[00:22] <valorie> I heard back from Clive
[00:22] <valorie> sounds like he got really tired and frustrated and just *stopped*
[00:22] <valorie> burnout is such a danger
[00:26] <wxl> he said (to me)  he wasn't doing much besides kci anyways which is interesting
[00:29] <wxl> and not using kubuntu
[00:29] <wxl> i think he decided to spend his time on something else is all
[00:29] <wxl> he was probably on his way out one way or another
[00:29] <wxl> tsimonq2: i'll go over that with you later tonight
[00:32] <tsimonq2> wxl: ok
[05:08] <wxl> ok @tsimonq2 i'm ready for you
[05:15] <tsimonq2> wxl: Try it
[05:15] <tsimonq2> wxl: It's just refreshing the patch
[05:15] <tsimonq2> wxl: Use the tools you already know
[05:15] <tsimonq2> (get-kci-tarball etc.)
[05:15] <tsimonq2> I need to sleep for like 12 hours.
[05:15] <tsimonq2> Bai.
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[08:57] <sick_rimmit> Good Morning :-D
[08:58] <sick_rimmit> I am very very impressed with Kubuntu 17.10 - Yesterday I installed it on my Work Laptop without a hitch. This morning I have just completed something much more complex
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[08:59] <sick_rimmit> I've just re-installed my laptop, installing 17.10 amd64 over the old 16.10 i686 - I have 2 disks, one of which is the home partition with all my files and configurations in it
[09:00] <sick_rimmit> I configured this to be mounted as /home via the installer, and also to use the 24Gb of SWAP that is on the SSD
[09:01] <sick_rimmit> I've just logged back in, and am chatting this here on IRC from Kubuntu 17.10 amd64 with all my original configurations in place
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[09:01] <sick_rimmit> Of course I have some app's missing, as I just need to re-install them
[09:01] <sick_rimmit> What a superb distro
[09:01] <sick_rimmit> Great Job
[09:06] <acheronuk> sick_rimmit: great to hear :)
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[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:07] <wxl[m]> How soon is the meeting?
[14:08] <santa_> test
[14:08] <santa_> hey, good morning everyone
[14:09] <santa_> I have been busy this last few days but I think I can attend the meeting
[14:28] <acheronuk> wxl[m]: don't think anyone set a time
[14:29] <acheronuk> may end up being after cafe live I guess
[14:29] <santa_> hi acheronuk
[14:29] <santa_> nice to see you here
[14:29] <acheronuk> santa_: you to
[14:30] <santa_> "where" is the meeting suposed to happen?
[14:30] <wxl[m]> Oh jeez well maybe I'll go back to bed then ☠
[14:30] <santa_> btw I need to eat something at some point
[14:30] <santa_> my life's a mess haha
[14:30] <acheronuk> I could do with sleep AND food
[14:30] <wxl[m]> When does café live end?
[14:31] <acheronuk> wxl[m]: scheduled yo be 21:00 - 23:00 UTC
[14:31] <acheronuk> *to
[14:32] <acheronuk> I could do with a few hrs snooze before!
[14:33] <wxl[m]> 1432 now? That can't be right
[14:33] <acheronuk> or we could just do the meeting a separate day
[14:33] <acheronuk> yep, 14:33 here UK
[14:34] <wxl[m]> Oh well plenty of time then!
[14:34] <acheronuk> I mean in the uk, which is obviously on UTC this time of year
[14:34] <acheronuk> 5/6 hrs to the cafe starts, yes
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[14:37] <santa_> that's great, so I can do my stuff this afternoon/evening
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[18:26] <wxl> aw rik you took my fun away (kwayland)
[18:27] <wxl> did you have to do that manually?
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[18:47] <wxl> ^^ @acheronuk
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[19:12] <wxl> we're going out but someone ping me when/if we're doing this meeting
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[20:00] <acheronuk> wxl: one hunk just refreshed ok after 'quilt pop -f', the other I had to go in and re-edit the source file to re-make changes, then refresh
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 Santa @acheronuk Hey, wanna talk about workflow?
[21:03] <santa_> hey
[21:03] <santa_> yeah, ok
[21:04] <tsimonq2> acheronuk?
[21:04] <acheronuk> what about workflow?
[21:04] <tsimonq2> Now that Clive is gone, it gave me a bit of a reality check
[21:05] <tsimonq2> We need an easier way to collab on stuff
[21:05] <tsimonq2> Or at least like a workflow that involves us putting info somewhere
[21:05] <santa_> ok, so do you have any proposal?
[21:06] <tsimonq2> So we have a KDE Phab
[21:06] <tsimonq2> We might be able to start a workboard there
[21:06] <acheronuk> we have a workboard
[21:06] <santa_> taskboard
[21:07] <tsimonq2> Sure, but that's for all of Kubuntu
[21:07] <tsimonq2> I just think we need a better way to keep track of progress on stuff
[21:07] <tsimonq2> Like we have KCI
[21:07] <tsimonq2> And staging of things
[21:07] <tsimonq2> etc.
[21:08] <santa_> well, we could organize the staging
[21:08] <tsimonq2> I think having all of that in one central page where all three of us just generally update it with our stuff, whatever the stuff may be, would help
[21:08] <wxl[m]> Phab Manifest for packaging specifically
[21:08] <wxl[m]> I think it supports sub boards
[21:09] <tsimonq2> I can't even find our Phab...
[21:10] <wxl[m]> Pebkac
[21:10] <acheronuk> https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/214/
[21:10] <tsimonq2> Aha, here we are
[21:11] <tsimonq2> wxl[m]: hm, don't think so
[21:11] <acheronuk> going in BBB now, but I'll try to keep here as well
[21:12] <wxl[m]> I'm afk so hard to look on phone
[21:21] <tsimonq2> acheronuk, santa_: Is this up-to-date? https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/packaging/status/
[21:22] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: not unless mparillo has updated
[21:22] <santa_> note that there's an automated page: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/version_status.html
[21:23] <acheronuk> I forgot that. thx
[21:23] <santa_> we could improve the automated page and drop the manually maintained page (if you want)
[21:24] <acheronuk> I find that wiki table impossible to edit, so auto would be nice
[21:24] <tsimonq2> It's possible
[21:25] <acheronuk> even a spreadsheet somewhere would be easier
[21:25] <acheronuk> not that I want that
[21:25] <tsimonq2> Right
[21:37] <valorie> would be cool to get that page linked from or possibly even displayed within the wiki
[21:59] <tsimonq2> santa_: How often is this set to update? http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks_archive/5.40_bionic_proposed_migration.pdf
[22:05] <santa_> tsimonq2: right now 15 minutes
[22:05] <tsimonq2> santa_: ack
[22:30]  * Sick_Rimmit Hello
[23:14] <mparillo> I most recently updated the status page when I noted that Plasma 5.11.3 was starting to land in BB.
[23:14] <mparillo> I most recently updated the status page when I noted that Plasma 5.11.4 was starting to land in BB.


[04:14] <vicamo> infinity: tseliot: also rebuilt and submitted to my ppa in https://launchpad.net/~vicamo/+archive/ubuntu/backport-iwlwifi-dkms-proposed
[04:43] <infinity> vicamo: Did that intentionally clobber the stack-clash changes?
[04:46] <infinity> vicamo: Also, your changelog mentions updating a copyright, but I see no such change actually in the diff.
[05:39] <vicamo> infinity: the stack-clash patch is for compiling under gcc-9
[05:39] <vicamo> infinity: it's also landed to mainline kernel as https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=29be86d7f9cb18df4123f309ac7857570513e8bc
[05:40] <vicamo> infinity: for copyright change, it's in debian/copyright
[05:40] <vicamo> infinity: it's managed in git in https://code.launchpad.net/~vicamo/ubuntu/+source/backport-iwlwifi-dkms/+git/backport-iwlwifi-dkms/+ref/for-focal/bug-1848922/fix-build
[05:41] <vicamo> infinity: the first time 7906-0ubuntu1 is uploaded, sponsor helped me to correct that copyright directly, and it's now also updated in my local copy.
[05:42] <vicamo> infinity: that's why you won't find such diff
[05:43] <vicamo> infinity: I can remove that line from changelog if that would be more appropriate
[05:48] <LocutusOfBorg> mitya57, working on qt is really not in my wish list :)
[06:32] <andrewsh> hi again, let me repost it here now
[06:32] <andrewsh> there seems to be a lot of unaccepted translations for Slovak at Launchpad, they’ve been there for many years: https://translations.launchpad.net/apport/trunk/+pots/apport/sk/+translate?field.alternative_language=cs&field.alternative_language-empty-marker=1&show=untranslated&memo=10&start=10
[06:33] <andrewsh> what can I do to help change that? is there a translation team or something I can become part of?
[07:34] <andrewsh> also: who should I talk to to get necessary permissions to edit the wiki?
[08:17] <octal_> Hello everyone. I'm experiencing a weird behavior regarding TCP and sendmsg system calls. Here is my scenario: I have a TCP server wainting for a certain number of clients to be connecting before sending them a batch of 128 bytes messages, 100 messages every batch, and then sleeping 1ms between each batch. I'm then measuring the time it takes to
[08:17] <octal_> send a message to all clients. On Ubuntu16.04, kernel 4.4 with TCP_NODELAY enabled, I get a 50th time of ~750ns. On Ubuntu 18.04 with kernel 4.20 I'm getting ~5000ns with TCP_NODELAY and 1000ns without TCP_NODELAY
[08:17] <octal_> Any idea why ? I can share my server and client code if needed
[09:13] <mwhudson> Need to get 418 MB of archives.
[09:13] <mwhudson> After this operation, 1425 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[09:13] <mwhudson> this is not a lightweight package build then!
[09:33] <mwhudson> LocutusOfBorg: did you report the problem with odb-api 0.18.1-8 to the maintainer?
[10:19] <xnox> rbalint:  ddstreet: do you at all remember if we tried to backport/include https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/9158 in bionic or not?
[10:19] <rbalint> xnox, i can't recall that
[10:19] <ddstreet> i dont remember backporting it
[10:23]  * xnox ponders why my brain remember it as a dejavu
[10:36] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I see you answers to the uvtool merge coming in one by one - please consider all that I do not answer as "ok"
[10:41] <rbasak> ack, thanks
[11:50] <Mmike> Hello, good people. I'm trying to build a .deb package using pbuilder-dist, for my local use (curl is the package), and I'd like to skip tests, as I don't care much for them. Is there a way to tell pbuilder (or sbuild, for that matter) to skip tests and just build the package?
[11:54] <dupondje> Mmike: you should adjust the debian/rules file for that
[11:54] <amurray> Mmike: you could try setting DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck
[11:58] <Mmike> dupondje, yup, I was trying to avoid that.
[11:58] <Mmike> amurray, thnx, trying now
[12:12] <Mmike> amurray, seems nocheck is being ognored :) I'll adjust debian/rules
[12:29] <tarzeau> is andreas moog here by chance? or someone knows him?
[12:29] <tarzeau><EMAIL_ADDRESS>after all
[12:30] <tarzeau> or maybe someone else can fix it in debian and sync it to ubuntu? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libbinio/+bug/1839038 (i need it for ocp(opencubicplayer))
[12:49] <sahid> slashd: o/ when will be the next developer membership board meeting?
[12:49] <sahid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda
[12:50] <sahid> i would like add my application https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SahidOrentinoFerdjaoui/PerPackageApplication
[13:19] <rbasak> sahid: they follow a pattern: every two weeks, alternating between 1500 and 1900.
[13:19] <rbasak> sahid: please feel free to update the wiki with current meeting dates - we only have them listed there to save others from working it out.
[13:20] <rbasak> (just take care to follow the pattern though please to avoid confusion)
[14:13] <sahid> rbasak: ok thank you i will do that
[14:35] <rbasak> I just moved bug 1849325 to curtin as I came across it, and that's more correct than for the bug to be against Launchpad. Not sure if that's correct for triage though.
[14:39] <powersj> rbasak, give it was during subiquity and had a curtin trace I'm good with that
[14:43] <rbasak> Thanks!
[15:07] <LocutusOfBorg> mwhudson, reopened the bug report
[15:08] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry for not crediting you for the patch i found you had already told also that fix to the maintainer after crafting the same fix...
[15:09] <LocutusOfBorg> how can it be *that* difficult to just apply a patch? :/
[15:36] <rbasak> rafaeldtinoco: on block-proposed-<series> for SRUs, I don't understand your second paragraph with your questions.
[15:36] <rbasak> What do you mean by "finishing the next SRU"?
[15:37] <rbasak> Actually reading again I think I might understand what you're asking, but am not sure.
[15:37] <rbasak> Do you mean what someone driving a future SRU who wants a further uploader to land needs to do?
[15:38] <rbasak> Do you mean what someone driving a future SRU who wants a further upload* to land needs to do?
[15:53] <rafaeldtinoco> yes
[15:53] <rafaeldtinoco> sorry for not being clear enough
[15:54] <rbasak> No problem. I'll respond to the thread, thanks
[16:09] <seb128> bdmurray, hey. Did you manager to have a look at why eoan retracing are failing? Half of the top 19.10 reports on a weekly view are missing symbols/failing retries
[16:09] <seb128> e.g
[16:09] <seb128> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/fd929348e8a0d94304efaa3c0e86de13ed2acfe8
[16:09] <seb128> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/3e80e42b3076f09542c1c3654871c897bbd1f12e
[16:09] <seb128> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/99ee014259e65652496f09ed33b4d8f2d7de2f08
[16:10] <seb128> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/50762846c553232d8fc30227e07ba39ff996418a
[16:10] <seb128> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/50762846c553232d8fc30227e07ba39ff996418a
[16:10] <seb128> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/b706258a6f378ab07c3e84f1f63aaa504743f214
[16:11] <seb128> well, most of 19.10 starting errors it looks like :/
[16:59] <Eickmeyer> Hey! Can I get some SRU love on bug 1849168?
[17:16] <bdmurray> seb128: Not quite yet but I have some free time today and Friday
[19:41] <mwhudson> LocutusOfBorg: thanks, and no worries about credit :)
[19:42] <mwhudson> LocutusOfBorg: some worries about reading comprehension, yeah
[20:46] <LocutusOfBorg> :)


[11:41] <jodh> long blog post on upstart sessions in Ubuntu Raring: http://ifdeflinux.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/upstart-user-sessions-in-ubuntu-raring.html
[11:45] <SpamapS> jodh: o/
[12:17] <stgraber> jodh: sorry I couldn't find the time to help preparing that article but very nice job!
[12:18] <stgraber> SpamapS: also, why are you awake that early? :)
[12:19] <SpamapS> stgraber: there is no logical explanation
[12:19] <SpamapS> insanity?
[12:19] <stgraber> hehe, good enough I guess ;)
[13:03] <jodh> stgraber: thanks! And thanks too for all your contributions this cycle!!!


[17:32] <Pinkamena_D> BluesKaj, ok, me too. I have just found the intel GPU on my laptop, which is good in other respects, to be a very low performance piece. I dont bother with games either.
[17:32] <Siente> and LXDE is coming with IBus IBus is an intelligent input bus for Linux/Unix.
[17:33] <Halelujah> EriC^^:  Partition Table: msdos  Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags  1      32,8kB  1159MB  1159MB  primary               boot, hidden
[17:33] <Siente> but I can't configure it to switch between my input methods with alt+shift
[17:34] <EriC^^> Halelujah: which iso is this?
[17:34] <Halelujah> EriC^^:  ubuntu mate
[17:34] <EriC^^> type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[17:34] <EriC^^> does it exist?
[17:34] <onepolar_> exit
[17:34] <Halelujah> EriC^^: ls: cannot access /sys/firmware/efi: No such file or directory
[17:35] <BluesKaj> Pinkamena_D, the intel i915 is fine for laptops.  So why the need for "Performance Video", are you a video creator/editor etc?
[17:35] <EriC^^> ok, no uefi then
[17:35] <EriC^^> Halelujah: did you checksum the iso?
[17:35] <Halelujah> EriC^^: nop
[17:35] <EriC^^> type md5sum /path/to/iso
[17:35] <Cay> So for some reason this computer will stay connected to the network but just will drop access to the internet. I'm actually ssh'd into my desktop downstairs to be on IRC right now but I can't ping google to save my life
[17:35] <EriC^^> !hashes | Halelujah check here
[17:36] <EriC^^> Halelujah: compare the two
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> Cay  can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:36] <TJ_on_Wily> Cay, Is it just DNS that goes, or do you lose the ability to ping external IP addresses too?
[17:36] <Pinkamena_D> TJ_on_Wily, I can only find errors referring to: (EE) intel: Failed to load module "present" (module does not exist, 0)
[17:37] <Pinkamena_D> (things with the "EE" marker)
[17:37] <mixxit> does ubuntu have something similar to debootstrap
[17:37] <Cay> MonkeyDust: looks like the dns is down no response
[17:37] <Cay> TJ_on_Wily: let me try by ip
[17:37] <Siente> Hello guys, how to uninstall everything what was installed with sudo apt-get install lxde ?
[17:37] <Cay> TJ_on_Wily: no dice on ip ping
[17:37] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, can you pastebin the log please?
[17:38] <TJ_on_Wily> Cay, OK, now check if you've lost the default route: "ip route show" and look for a line with "default" in it
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> Siente  sudo apt-get remove lxde; sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:38] <Halelujah> EriC^^: yes its correct
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> replace remove with purge
[17:38] <Cay> TJ_on_Wily: default via the router
[17:38] <Cay> (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[17:39] <TJ_on_Wily> Cay, Can you ping the router ?
[17:39] <Cay> yep
[17:39] <Halelujah> EriC^^: im sure unetbootin will work :)
[17:39] <ioria> Halelujah, did you umount before dd ?
[17:39] <Siente> MonkeyDust, for what is autoremove?
[17:39] <Halelujah> ioria: yes
[17:40] <EriC^^> Halelujah: give it a shot, usually though dd works when unetbootin doesn't
[17:40] <Pinkamena_D> TJ_on_Wily, Ok, here are the past three: https://bpaste.net/show/4ed2864b3d6d
[17:40] <ioria> Halelujah, weird
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> Siente  to remove what came with the lxde meta package
[17:40] <EriC^^> Halelujah: it's worth a shot though
[17:40] <Halelujah> ioria: i know... somehow after dd command usb filesystem changed to unknown :/
[17:41] <Siente> MonkeyDust, so sudo apt-get purge lxde and then sudo apt-get autoremove?
[17:41] <TJ_on_Wily> Cay, I suspect the router may be blocking it for some reason. The other possibility is the PC has 2 interfaces (Wireless and Wired, maybe) and both are connected and conflicting
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> Siente  yes
[17:41] <ioria> Halelujah, maybe a messed  up usb
[17:42] <arsalan> Hi guys!
[17:42] <Halelujah> ioria: but unetbootin works :)
[17:42] <Cay> TJ_on_Wily: The first scenario is kinda my guess. It seems like if something causes the router to lose it's shit it blocks till it's disconnected reconnected
[17:42] <Cay> but I wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy
[17:42] <ioria> Halelujah, cool
[17:42] <Cay> and it wasn't something like windows netsh reset would cure
[17:43] <Cay> TJ_on_Wily: thanks man
[17:43] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, do you have the package "libxcb-present0" installed?
[17:43] <Ntemis> hi
[17:43] <Halelujah> ioria: so why unetbootin works and dd not? :/
[17:43] <EriC^^> hi
[17:43] <Ntemis> on 14.04.3  and my videos play too fast
[17:43] <Ntemis> youtube too
[17:43] <Ntemis> didnt have this issue on 14.04.2
[17:44] <Ntemis> please help
[17:44] <jackhum> can anyone tell me in this link https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164345 , in answer #4  , what i have to do in part 3 ?
[17:44] <Pinkamena_D> TJ_on_Wily, Yes, I do
[17:44] <Halelujah> What laptops are recommended for linux operating systems?
[17:45] <Pinkamena_D> I have had the most success with dells and thinkpads
[17:45] <cfhowlett> Halelujah, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[17:45] <ioria> Halelujah, googling ...
[17:45] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, it looks like that is what is being referred to
[17:46] <TJ_on_Wily> jackhum, create the named file, but the text in the code box in it
[17:46] <Siente> MonkeyDust, thank you very much btw any idea how to restore /etc/apache2/apache2.conf to the default one?
[17:46] <Pinkamena_D> TJ_on_Wily, but that sounds like a non-critical error, which does not have to do with the egpu issue, does it not?
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> Siente  no, i only know a few basics about apache
[17:47] <Halelujah> Whats better DELL or HP?
[17:47] <Pinkamena_D> Also when I restart X I just get the "your preferences could not be loaded" or whatever error and I can only switch to another TTY and use that. NOt sure where that is documented on the xorg log.
[17:47] <ioria> Halelujah, http://askubuntu.com/questions/512059/using-dd-command-to-create-bootable-usb-stick
[17:47] <jackhum> TJ_on_Wily: i dont have  /etc/tmpfiles.d/ directory
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> Halelujah  what you like most, is the best
[17:48] <Pinkamena_D> Halelujah, that is completely opinion based, but to give mine: I have had a $3000 dell laptop have a video card death after just a few years, so I was not very happy about that.
[17:48] <Halelujah> Pinkamena_D: what video card was that?
[17:49] <TJ_on_Wily> jackhum, which Ubuntu release are you on?
[17:49] <Pinkamena_D> I dont know offhand - the laptop was called "dell xps gen 2" or something. I can find it again if you would like :).
[17:49] <cfhowlett> by way of contrast, my new $3k dell laptop acted up a few weeks after purchase.  the tech came to my residence, replaced mobo and LCD in a about 30 minutes and I'm all good now.
[17:49] <jackhum> TJ_on_Wily: 14.04
[17:50] <Pinkamena_D> I have bought <$1000 thinkpads form then on and I have not been dissappointed
[17:50] <Pinkamena_D> (except for that built in video) ;)
[17:50] <HexTq> mfw when ubuntu only recognizes keyboard in the 3.0 usb port ...
[17:50] <Halelujah> Pinkamena_D: Lenovo laptops?
[17:50] <daftykins> HexTq: when when? ;)
[17:51] <Pinkamena_D> well, the first was actual IBM, which was the most solid. Lenovo after that yes.
[17:51] <HexTq> friend called me midinstall that no kb no mouse i told him switch ports out of the 16 only the 2x 3.0 did work
[17:51] <Pinkamena_D> I used the T60 first... I am using the x220 now.
[17:51] <jackhum> please anyone tell me how to do #4 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164345 in my ubuntu
[17:51] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices." seems to express the problem
[17:52] <HexTq> its fairly hard to install ubuntu without keyboard and mouse -.-
[17:52] <Pinkamena_D> TJ_on_Wily, with or without modifying xorg.conf, I get that error whenever I do a X--configure.
[17:52] <TJ_on_Wily> jackhum, OK... that instruction is specific to the systemd init system, which isn't in 14.04 (added in 15.04).
[17:52] <Pinkamena_D> I have not been able to find a fix for that either. do you know a common cause? I don't even have to have the egpu attached to generate that problem.
[17:52] <HexTq> just sharing the info if someone encounters the problem
[17:55] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, I see no detected monitors in the Xorg log, so there will be 0 outputs, and 0 screens
[17:56] <jackhum> TJ_on_Wily: please tell me how to setup this on my 14.04
[17:56] <pytestingclient> Don't mind me. Just testing out my irc client I started writing this morning.
[17:56] <cfhowlett> !test | pytestingclient
[17:57] <jackhum> TJ_on_Wily: i am using this http://marcodallas.github.io/acpi_call_GUI/ , and its not working
[17:59] <Pinkamena_D> TJ_on_Wily, I guess this is beyond my understanding. Possibly these logs are not early enough to see my original screens? or should the log show the screens for every time X is started? I am using the laptop in question right now and obviously the screen is working, so I don't really understand where the error is coming from...
[18:00] <TJ_on_Wily> jackhum, acpi_call is a kernel module. First it needs to be loaded at boot-time by being listed in "/etc/modules". With that in place, you need the command that writes to /proc/acpi/call in "/etc/rc.local"
[18:02] <speedy__> if i wanted to use wifi for my ubunut server ,is this possible?
[18:02] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, the Xorg log file should show the monitors as they are discovered along with their modelines. Starting from pastebin line 973 where the X server is started, there are no monitor devices detected
[18:02] <aman_d1996> hello.. i want to join the ubuntu developers community... i m a new here...can anyone help please
[18:02] <TJ_on_Wily> speedy__, Yes
[18:02] <cfhowlett> speedy__, yes.  but you might find clearer answers in #ubuntu-sever
[18:02] <cfhowlett> !contribute | aman_d1996
[18:02] <speedy__> that cfhowlett
[18:02] <Pinkamena_D> But should my laptop be theoretically working right now without those monitors?
[18:03] <speedy__> thanks cfhowlett TJ_on_Wily
[18:03] <aman_d1996> cfhowlett:where shall i start to contribute?
[18:03] <cfhowlett> happy2help! speedy__
[18:03] <jackhum> TJ_on_Wily: how to setup ?
[18:03] <cfhowlett> aman_d1996, well, generally it's considered good practice to read the wiki referenced in the url I sent you
[18:04] <speedy__> cfhowlett,  that you are my old friend.
[18:04] <aman_d1996> ohk thanks cfhowlett
[18:04] <mlvmhn> need help w/ ubuntu
[18:05] <Pinkamena_D> ok
[18:05] <Siente> MonkeyDust, but it's not about knowing anything about apache
[18:05] <speedy__> cfhowlett, there is no one there bot one bot.. is that the right address?
[18:05] <cfhowlett> !ask | mlvmhn,
[18:05] <Pinkamena_D> what seems to be hte problem
[18:05] <cfhowlett> !server | speedy__ I'd be surprised if no is there
[18:05] <Siente> MonkeyDust, it's about how to checkout a file from a package
[18:05] <mlvmhn> my system is feeling slow, it is a celeron 2 ghz, 2 gb ram running ubuntu 14.04 lts
[18:06] <hackeredit53> sealm ar
[18:06] <hackeredit53> lan oçlar
[18:06] <hackeredit53> amına koduklarım
[18:06] <cfhowlett> mlvmhn, suggest you keep ubuntu but try an alternate desktop environment; lxde or xfce4
[18:06] <hackeredit53> sen ne diyon yarrağımsı şey
[18:06] <EriC^^> hackeredit53: kahoona matata
[18:06] <cfhowlett> !english | hackeredit53
[18:06] <hackeredit53> assiktir puşt
[18:06] <Pinkamena_D> or you could disable unity blurring and other FX, this helped me a lot.
[18:06] <mlvmhn> thinking about lubuntu instead
[18:06] <TJ_on_Wily> jackhum, in "/etc/rc.local" you just need a line *before* the "exit 0" line that writes the required value to acpi_call. E.g. "echo '\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._OFF' > /proc/acpi/call"
[18:06] <k1l_> !tr | hackeredit53
[18:07] <cfhowlett> mlvmhn, here's the easy test: sudo apt install lxde xfce4
[18:07] <themanu> hi, where is the my personal keys tab in the passwords app?
[18:07] <cfhowlett> mlvmhn, then logout/choose a DE/login
[18:07] <kadiro> re
[18:07] <mlvmhn> can i try it out before installing?
[18:08] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, I've no idea why the log doesn't show the monitors; It should show them being discovered and possibly report their EDID modelines too
[18:08] <kadiro> yes you can with live usb /cd /dvd
[18:08] <themanu> can anuone help me?
[18:08] <EriC^^> themanu: ?
[18:08] <mlvmhn> is it faster on my machine?
[18:08] <cfhowlett> mlvmhn, install virtualbox.  download and install the .iso to virtualbox
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> themanu  ask and wait
[18:08] <cfhowlett> mlvmhn, dude.  TRY IT
[18:09] <cfhowlett> !ask | themanu,
[18:09] <kadiro> mlvmhn: lubuntu is a fatest on ubuntu
[18:09] <themanu> I fond what I was looking for
[18:09] <cfhowlett> mlvmhn, lubuntu is optimized for older/lower spec machines and xubuntu is also pretty fast.  you can test the DE's on your current install
[18:09] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, one of the earlier logs shows the intel detecting the LVDS "(II) intel(0): switch to mode<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on LVDS1 using pipe 0"
[18:10] <bros> How often should I be running apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade on production servers on LTS releases?
[18:10] <mlvmhn> i am running ubuntu now, can i try it without uninstall ubuntu?
[18:10] <Lantizia> Hey, for someone who isn't very savvy with PC's... I'm looking for an easy to install/use Dynamic DNS updater client - something that can run as an indicator/notification app in the tray? any ideas?
[18:10] <Pinkamena_D> That is the laptop display, yes.
[18:10] <cfhowlett> bros, often.
[18:10] <Pinkamena_D> But it should show that every run?
[18:10] <kadiro> yes you can mlvmhn
[18:10] <Pinkamena_D> I don't have any xorg.conf now, it is using whatever comes with ubuntu
[18:10] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, maybe it is because you've got 2 X servers running? I noticed that one of those logs shows  "Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.1.log" "
[18:11] <mlvmhn> is vlc, qbittorrent working in lubuntu?
[18:11] <cfhowlett> mlvmhn, yes
[18:11] <mlvmhn> is it the same GUI?
[18:11] <cfhowlett> NO
[18:11] <Pinkamena_D> Yes, I listed the three in order. I thought that the larger numbers were older logs, but you mean they are actually different x servers?
[18:11] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, the 2nd one shows "Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.2.log" " ... which makes me think you've got multipl X servers still running
[18:11] <Ntemis> my videos play tooo fast
[18:11] <cfhowlett> !flavors | mlvmhn
[18:11] <Ntemis> any help please
[18:12] <kadiro> mlvmhn: vlc yes but not qtorrent
[18:12] <Pinkamena_D> I have never run a server on anything besides tty7, if that makes sense.
[18:12] <mlvmhn> yes or no?
[18:12] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, "ps -efly | grep /X"
[18:12] <Pinkamena_D> I get one for root and one for myself
[18:13] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, usually the number in the log-file name indicates the X server instance
[18:13] <kadiro> mlvmhn: qbittorrent based on qt so there are transmission or bittorrent for kde like lubuntu
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> mlvmhn  you should sometimes try something yourself, before ask ing if it will work
[18:13] <Pinkamena_D> maybe when I was messing around rstarting x to try to fix it, I started more then one somehow.
[18:13] <kadiro> they do the same thing like qttorrent
[18:14] <mlvmhn> should i keep ubuntu on my other system? it is 3,16 ghz dual core, 4 gb ram
[18:14] <kadiro> yes you can
[18:14]  * kadiro -_-'
[18:14] <mlvmhn> will do
[18:15] <aeden__d> I removed, purged znc and now I'm trying to remove the user I created for znc. When I 'sudo userdel znc-admin' I get 'user znc-admin is currently used by process 11473
[18:15] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, possibly, or you've got one log-file per X Screen.
[18:15] <EriC^^> aeden__d: try ps 11473
[18:15] <EriC^^> to see what the process is
[18:15] <aeden__d> ps aux | grep shows the process bash in use by znc-admin
[18:16] <aeden__d> EriC^^,
[18:16] <EriC^^> aeden__d: maybe it's an open terminal
[18:16] <kadiro> kill the process
[18:16] <aeden__d> EriC^^, it also shows the same the process tied to _my_ account as --color=auto 11473
[18:17] <aeden__d> just wondering if it was ok to kill the process
[18:17] <kadiro> that for grep i guess
[18:17] <aeden__d> kadiro, ok
[18:18] <jackhum> TJ_on_Wily: so i added this before exit 0 of my rc.local  -> echo '\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._OFF' > /proc/acpi/call
[18:18] <Pinkamena_D> Let me understand one thing about this: ubuntu makes a bunch of default xorg configs in /usr/lib or somewhere (I can find), but when you make an xorg.conf, all of these are ignored and replaced with JUST xorg.conf, or are they conbined somehow?
[18:18] <jackhum> TJ_on_Wily: then i restarted my computer , and apparently , my discrete graphics isnt turned off
[18:21] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, No, there are NO configuration files unless you create one in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or the device config/quirks fragments in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[18:21] <aeden__d> closed terminal and restarted, tried to delete user again, different process in use.. /usr/local/bin/znc --makeconf. Confused because I already removed and purged znc
[18:21] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, The xorg X server auto-discovers all devices at start-up so unless you have a non-standard config xorg.conf isn't needed
[18:22] <kadiro> aeden__d: Alt+Ctrl+F1 whithout a DE and do a same thing
[18:22] <EriC^^> aeden__d: kill that process
[18:22] <Pinkamena_D> ok, thanks
[18:22] <aeden__d> kadiro, I can't F1... in vbox and keybindings are jacked up
[18:22] <EriC^^> aeden__d: it might be it was configuring it and it opened another shell or something
[18:22] <jackhum> TJ_on_Wily: this is the script , that turns my discrente graphics off http://pastebin.com/N7kKcisW
[18:23] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, config files are combined... if there are identical entries, the latest read will be used. /etc/X11/xorg.conf is read last
[18:23] <EriC^^> aeden__d: right ctrl+f1 in vbox instead of ctrl+alt+f1
[18:23] <kadiro> ok aeden__d so you need to kill a process like EriC^^ said
[18:23] <EriC^^> aeden__d: anyways just kill that process no need to switch
[18:23] <nhandIer> all right u fucks
[18:23] <nhandIer> every1 out of here
[18:23] <kadiro> ?
[18:23] <nhandIer> TROLOLOLOLO
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> nhandIer  wrong channel
[18:23] <aeden__d> EriC^^, kadiro ok, will do, thank you
[18:23] <Pinkamena_D> TJ_on_Wily, it seems that my issue this issue may be too complicated to figure out currently. Do you think that you could make a post on my post of ubuntuforums asking for the xorg log or something to bring it to the top? :)
[18:23] <TJ_on_Wily> jackhum, OK... put that file in /etc/  then call it from /etc/rc.local
[18:23] <kadiro> you welcome aeden__d
[18:24] <TJ_on_Wily> Pinkamena_D, I don't have my log-in available to do that - I'm currently testing Wily on a different hard disk - the disk with all my Trusty setup on is on the desk :)
[18:28] <phakman> hi everyone
[18:28] <phakman> Im new in this forum
[18:28] <phakman> I need your help
[18:28] <aeden__d> EriC^^, kadiro killin the process worked... thanks again
[18:29] <aeden__d> *killing
[18:29] <phakman> I had installed my ubuntu 14.04 into a macbook
[18:29] <Bashing-om> Pinkamena_D: ubuntuforums: If your post is 24 hrs old, you may yoursef 'bump' it to the top . Pass the link and I have a look and see what the issue is .
[18:29] <kadiro> np aeden__d
[18:30] <Bashing-om> phakman: State your issue to the channel .
[18:30] <phakman> sorry Pinkamena, but what link are you talking about?
[18:30] <Pinkamena_D> Bashing-om, here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291879
[18:31] <Bashing-om> Pinkamena_D: Look'n .
[18:31] <pavelz> so i ran upgrade and now it won't let me in. i correct xorg.conf file but system overwrites it...
[18:31] <pavelz> help.
[18:31] <pavelz> i added Load "glx" and it does not work anyway
[18:32] <phakman> I have no connections to internet nothing is working and cannot reinstall, in my macbook cannot see the USB as init boot option
[18:33] <jr_> overclockers!!!
[18:34] <pavelz> the error is gnome-session "CRITICAL: We failed but the fail whale is dead. sorry ..."
[18:35] <Pinkamena_D> that error message is top notch.
[18:37] <nro234n> hello! what can i do if root account won't save history into file specified in .bashrc with HISTFILE='~/.bash_history'? i'm not using root account, but i just want to make sure nobody is using it for some reason...
[18:37] <nokiaman> hi
[18:37] <Pinkamena_D> good afternoon
[18:38] <kadiro> hello
[18:38] <jr_> hi everyone
[18:39] <mixxit> is it possible to remove everything from ubuntu
[18:39] <mixxit> so its pretty much just drivers and bash
[18:39] <kadiro> yes mixxit
[18:39] <jr_> mmmmm
[18:39] <mixxit> atm its taking forever to boot
[18:39] <jr_> remove the xserver
[18:39] <mixxit> sits on cups and stuff
[18:40] <jr_> orjust boot into the terminal
[18:40] <Pinkamena_D> I would recommend install ubuntu-server and then look $ dpkg -l and start removing the ones that you know what they are and dont want.
[18:40] <mixxit> na ubuntu server wont install
[18:40] <kadiro> mixxit: what about trying a light DE ?
[18:40] <mixxit> its just for the cubboard i dont need any really
[18:40] <jackhum> TJ_on_Wily: are you there brah?
[18:40] <jr_> overclockers!!!
[18:41] <Pinkamena_D> I have installed the package ubuntu-server but never tried removing it, not sure if that works like that =S
[18:41] <Pinkamena_D> sorry, I mean ubuntu-desktop
[18:41] <mixxit> ok ill try
[18:41] <nro234n> btw, another question... it's possible to somehow change text graphical interface for just text from ubuntu server like it's in ubuntu server minimal... from this<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to http://i.stack.imgur.com/pjJFe.jpg
[18:41] <Pinkamena_D> jr_, what?!
[18:41] <jackhum> so my problem is summed in following few points
[18:42] <jr_> nothing,just saying hi to all the overclockers
[18:42] <jackhum> i want to run echo '\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._OFF' > /proc/acpi/call   ., on every startup
[18:42] <jackhum> i added echo '\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._OFF' > /proc/acpi/call   before exit 0 , but its not working
[18:42] <pkzip> can i mount an uphone? fdisk -l doesnt show anything if i connect it to usb
[18:42] <jackhum> but if i run this command as root , in terminal it works fine
[18:42] <pkzip> typo. can i mount an iphone? fdisk -l doesnt show anything if i connect it to usb
[18:42] <jackhum> can anyone tell me whats the problem here
[18:43] <EriC^^> !info ifuse | pkzip
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> jackhum  how do you run it at startup? with crontab?
[18:44] <Meerkat> nro234n, that is only how it looks while you are installing. Once the system is installed you'll get the looks you want by tweaking colors.
[18:44] <jr_> overclockers!!!
[18:44] <EriC^^> pkzip: it should show up in the filemanager by itself though
[18:44] <ePirat> Where can I find http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/resources/platform/api/ ?
[18:44] <jackhum> MonkeyDust: i added this command echo '\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._OFF' > /proc/acpi/call , in my rc.local
[18:44] <kadiro> !ot | jr_
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> jackhum  ok, i'm not familiar enough with rc.local, but try using crontab
[18:45] <jr_> i am not asking questions about overclocking, I am just saying hi to all the overclockers
[18:45] <nro234n> Meerkat: no... this is when you install packages like postfix which needs additional info for configuration file
[18:46] <kadiro> jr_: If you have a question or you want to help it's ok if not please visite #ubuntu-offtopic for others things
[18:46] <Meerkat> nro234n, oh, right. Then no. You can't easily change that.
[18:48] <pkzip> EriC^^, but how can i mount if i dont see the device?
[18:49] <nro234n> Meerkat: i believe it's possible... if this is default look in ubuntu server minimal, why couldn't be set in complete ubuntu server
[18:49] <EriC^^> just ifuse /path/to/mountpoint
[18:49] <pkzip> ah, is ee
[18:49] <pkzip> theres stuff in it
[18:50] <pkzip> where do i put my mp3 files?
[18:50] <EriC^^> you can't, it wont see them, you have to use rhythmbox
[18:50] <pkzip> what???
[18:50] <EriC^^> this is why i dual boot :>
[18:50] <pkzip> the iphone cant play my mp3s?
[18:50] <kadiro> ah like itune then
[18:50] <nro234n> so... back to my primary question... what can i do if root account won't save history into file specified in .bashrc with HISTFILE='~/.bash_history'? i'm not using root account, but i just want to make sure nobody is using it for some reason...
[18:50] <EriC^^> it can, but you need to copy them using rhythmbox or itunes
[18:51] <pkzip> EriC^^, why not copy them directly?
[18:51] <kadiro> O_o
[18:51] <EriC^^> i dunno
[18:51] <pkzip> thats shit
[18:52] <kadiro> pkzip: for that reason you have to copy theme with rythmobox
[18:53] <TJ_on_Wily> pkzip, audio files on Apple devices aren't stored as simple files in the file-system, they are organised and named with hashes and found by a database lookup.
[18:53] <pkzip> ah, i see
[18:53] <EriC^^> pkzip: hmm it works actually
[18:53] <EriC^^> copy them to itunes_control/music/<some dir>
[18:54] <kadiro> pkzip: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158486/how-do-i-transfer-music-to-my-iphone
[18:54] <pkzip> have i got to do that as root?
[18:55] <EriC^^> pkzip: oh nevermind
[18:55] <EriC^^> it doesn't
[18:55] <mulle> hi
[18:57] <dangoo87> Hello, I am trying to write a line in a command which points to a USB drive. the guides example is "/dev/sdb1" , how do i find out what mine is?
[18:58] <mixxit> type mount in terminal
[18:58] <mixxit> it will show you all mounted partitions
[18:58] <akik> dangoo87: fdisk -l
[18:59] <dangoo87> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12233012/ which one would it be?
[19:00] <dangoo87> sdc one?
[19:00] <mixxit> 7.6 gig
[19:00] <mixxit> sound right?
[19:00] <akik> dangoo87: well does it match the size of your usb stick? do you have any other 8 GiB device?
[19:00] <dangoo87> its about 8.1gig
[19:01] <EriC^^> looks like sdc
[19:02] <akik> dangoo87: also lsblk
[19:02] <dangoo87> thanks, looks like what i was doing hasn't done yet again!, I am working from http://wire.less.dk/?p=139 to boot from a usb drive for a VM
[19:04] <joopi> could someboud
[19:04] <joopi> somebody help me
[19:04] <mixxit> sure
[19:05] <joopi> i currently have ubuntu 14.04 on an usbstick
[19:05] <joopi> as my os
[19:05] <wileee> dangoo87, Why the usb and not a iso?
[19:05] <wileee> joopi, all in one post please
[19:06] <dangoo87> wileee, the ISO is on the USB.
[19:06] <wileee> dangoo87, Why?
[19:06] <joopi> what im trying to do is to install a dualboot with windows and ubuntu, i am having trouble installing windows from my cd, how should i partition my harddrive in order for windows to be installed on it
[19:06] <dangoo87> wileee, should I do it another way?
[19:07] <wileee> joopi, windows on usbstick?
[19:07] <joopi> windows on cd
[19:07] <wileee> dangoo87, This virtualbox?
[19:07] <joopi> i am trying to install it to my harddrive
[19:07] <akik> dangoo87: that example defines a connection between usbdisk.vmdk and /dev/sdb1
[19:07] <wileee> joopi, Than ask in ##windows
[19:07] <dangoo87> wileee, yes on Virtual box
[19:07] <joopi> ok
[19:07] <akik> dangoo87: maybe better help can be found at #vbox
[19:08] <ilbeIkyr> ilbelkyr hi :)
[19:08] <wileee> dangoo87, You would generally just use the iso is all, the usb is not needed.
[19:08] <dangoo87> akik, thanks i will check them out
[19:08] <ilbeIkyr> ilbelkyr i am watching u :)
[19:09] <ilbeIkyr> ilbelkyr let me be very clear with u until botchlab isnt dead and rotting in a coffin this will continue
[19:09] <blah-> wb salman_ khan
[19:09] <ilbeIkyr> botchlab is fucking dead
[19:10] <pkzip> EriC^^, i have installed rhythmbox now. how to i copy the selected file? and into which folder?
[19:11] <foobarbarfoo_> Hi, sometimes my just stops responding to my touchpad. How can I track further the issue?
[19:12] <EriC^^> pkzip: i've no idea
[19:12] <wileee> foobarbarfoo_, Is that the touchpad randomly stops working?
[19:12] <pkzip> oh, man
[19:12] <pkzip> what a crap an iphone is
[19:13] <pkzip> so i still need my 50 bucks mp3 player?
[19:13] <wileee> pkzip, not a chat channel, keep with support.
[19:15] <mixxit> ok sweet
[19:15] <mixxit> ubuntu booting super fast to login shell now
[19:16] <mixxit> thanks guys!"
[19:29] <Guest5848> hello is it legal to distribute a distro that uses ambiance as its main theme?
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> jr_  Guest5848 it is, as long as you respect the gpl
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> Guest5848 it is, as long as you respect the gpl
[19:32] <Guest5848> MonkeyDust: alright, what about the nooblabs edited version of ambiance for xfce desktops?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> Guest5848  more information in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:32] <Guest5848> Alright thanks, I'll head there
[19:42] <laspahr> hi, I dual-booted Ubuntu 15.04 with Windows 10 (Home and Pro) as well as Linux Mint 17.1.. I need to figure out how to make grub the default bootloader (instead of Windows, which only lists windows OSes)... I tried Boot-Repair but it claimed it must be used in a live cd/usb..?
[19:42] <laspahr> sorry, guess "dual-boot" isn't quite accurate anymore :)
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> laspahr  multiboot is more convenient
[19:43] <wileee> laspahr, Do you have the bootscript url?
[19:43] <laspahr> MonkeyDust, explain..?
[19:43] <laspahr> wileee, just a moment :)
[19:44] <laspahr> wileee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12233550/
[19:45] <ac3takwas> How do I use wildcards to move "certain folders" (not files!) to a different folder? (Note: I can do these for files by using the extensions)
[19:45] <ac3takwas> this*
[19:45] <ac3takwas> their*
[19:48] <wileee> lasers, I'm not a uefi helper in general, however I see no uefi installs for mint nor ubuntu but a uefi windows and gpt partitioning.
[19:48] <wileee> laspahr, I'm not a uefi helper in general, however I see no uefi installs for mint nor ubuntu but a uefi windows and gpt partitioning.
[19:48] <wileee> sorry lasers
[19:49] <wileee> !uefi | laspahr  you might look through this.
[19:49] <laspahr> wileee, would a linux OS be installed in a BIOS install, not a UEFI?
[19:49] <jason_> ac3takwas, you probably need to use the find command
[19:49] <laspahr> or is that a moot point?
[19:50] <wileee> laspahr, You need appropriate help, I'm not gonna answer speculation, read the link.
[19:50] <ac3takwas> jason, thanks. Any helpful lead on how to use that? I've only recently taken tutorials on grep and wildcards
[19:50] <laspahr> alright, I mean I can still get to Ubuntu/Mint it's just a longer process. thanks for your help :)
[19:51] <wileee> laspahr, A bad way to install is all, more trouble than worth.
[19:51] <jason_> ac3takwas,  I have this one bookmarked, since I can never remember all the options: http://www.binarytides.com/linux-find-command-examples/
[19:51] <ac3takwas> like in a folder with sub-folders a,b,c,d & e; how do I move a,c,d in one command without listing all of them?
[19:51] <atrolize> anyone know why i cant download from a bot?
[19:52] <ac3takwas> jason_, okay thanks.
[19:52] <jason_> ac3takwas, well what wildcard would match a,c,d?
[19:53] <jason_> ac3takwas, If there's some pattern you can use to distinguish the ones you want to match, you can do it.
[19:54] <ac3takwas> I have no idea ^\o/^
[19:54] <ac3takwas> nevertheless thanks
[19:55] <poppe> does someone know if gpt partitions is bootable out of the box in lubuntu?
[19:55] <poppe> sorry I mean mountable
[20:10] <apb1963> how can I force a new IP address from my provider?  on windows I guess I'd do iprelease or something....
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> apb1963  i guess iprelease releases your lan address, not your wan (provider's) address
[20:12] <wileee> apb1963, reboot the router with about a min delay
[20:12] <ira_> some providers uses static ip address
[20:13] <apb1963> I always seem to get the same IP from my provider... even when I reboot.  Maybe I need to wait longer.  Thanks
[20:14] <ira_> 5 min should do
[20:14] <Celphish> I solved my usb3-problem from the other day ><
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> apb1963  reboot your router, not your pc, that doesnt affect the router
[20:26] <rabelais> how do I reinstall a package such that it will check the config files and bring up that prompt for "install distro maintainers version vs keep current one" like I see when packages get upgraded?
[20:29] <TJ_on_Wily> rabelais, "dpk-reconfigure <pkg>" or "dpkg --configure <pkg>"
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> rabelais  guess you have to first find out which package asked it
[20:30] <TJ_on_Wily> Grrr, typo! "dpkg-reconfigure <pkg>"
[20:31] <AHemlocksLie> Are there seriously no known issues with the Ubuntu 15.04 installer? I've been trying to install it to my hard drive for a while, and it always freezes. People here suggested hardware issues, so I tried installing to a virtual machine, which I believe SHOULD isolate it from any hardware issues since it emulates most of the hardware, and it froze THAT, TOO.
[20:32] <AHemlocksLie> Meanwhile, I'm tearing everything apart trying to get to the bottom of supposed hardware issues that were nonexistent until I had trouble with Ubuntu, and the second I did anything about it, everything started falling to pieces
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> AHemlocksLie  sure you don't mean 15.10? that may still be somewhat unstable
[20:32] <AHemlocksLie> I just don't even know anymore, and I'm incredibly frustrated
[20:32] <AHemlocksLie> MonkeyDust: No. 15.04. The one that's been out for 4 months. I know it should have all that fixed by now, but if I can't even install it in a VM, I feel like that goes deeper than hardware issues on my end
[20:32] <ira_> try to download ISO file again
[20:33] <rabelais> found it, it's super cryptic: apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="force-confask" install --reinstall <pkg>    Thanks!
[20:33] <gambl0re> anyone know why my terminal hangs sometimes when i try to run rails generate commands
[20:33] <AHemlocksLie> ira_: I've used the 64 bit image for my HDD install, and I had to download the 32 bit image for the VM install, and I personally verified the integrity of the 64 bit ISO *and* the DVD I burned with it after verifying the ISO itself
[20:33] <gambl0re> sometimes i have to cancel the process or restart my terminal
[20:34] <AHemlocksLie> I can't track down the problem, I have no f#!@ing clue what to do anymore, and I'm to the point where I wish I didn't care about the money enough to just scrap the box and buy a new one. I just don't even know anymore
[20:34] <gambl0re> anyone?
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> AHemlocksLie  then stick to 14.04
[20:35] <frenda> I want to follow some website/weblogs by their feed; I added omgubuntu and webupd8, anything else?
[20:37] <gambl0re> is because im black?
[20:37] <AHemlocksLie> Yes. They can tell that over IRC, I hear
[20:37] <EriC^^> gambl0re: you're blue here
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> AHemlocksLie  14.04 is longer supported than 15.04
[20:41] <gambl0re> i'm black most likely why im getting no help
[20:41] <gambl0re> whatever..
[20:43] <k1l_> gambl0re: stop that nonsense
[20:50] <surgy> hello
[20:51] <surgy> im running ubuntu 14.04 kernal 3.19 when i start a game i love (kerbal space program) it starts on the left monitor. i want it to start on the right monitor. is there a command i can issue when opening the program to force it to the correct screen?
[20:56] <surgy> can i "DISPLAY="0.1" commandToLaunch to make a program launch on the right monitor?
[21:03] <slaffe> why does apt-get only install munin 2.0.19 when latest 2.0.25 is the latest?
[21:07] <OerHeks> Vivid does https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/munin
[21:07] <OerHeks> That is the key for LTS, stable packages unless security updates tested.
[21:07] <slaffe> what is vivi?
[21:07] <bekks> slaffe: vivid is the latest Ubuntu release.
[21:08] <slaffe> hm ok
[21:08] <slaffe> So how do I install munin then?
[21:08] <slaffe> when apt-get dosnt?
[21:08] <slaffe> i am fairly new to linux
[21:09] <bekks> slaffe: "sudo apt-get install munin" installs munin.
[21:09] <OerHeks> i think that version is patched for SystemD that comes with vivd 15.04 and up
[21:09] <slaffe> I run 14.04 LTS , server version
[21:09] <slaffe> I already have munin but it's an old versoin
[21:09] <slaffe> and it says its the latest
[21:09] <slaffe> although it's not
[21:10] <OerHeks> for LTS it is, AFAIK
[21:10] <slaffe> hm ok
[21:10] <slaffe> So I can not run the 2.0.25 one or something? oO
[21:11] <bekks> slaffe: what do you need .25 for?
[21:11] <slaffe> I dont know, I always want to runt he latest software
[21:11] <slaffe> thinking theyre are new features and bugfixes
[21:11] <bekks> slaffe: So just use "sudo apt-get install munin" :)
[21:12] <OerHeks> That will give  2.0.19-3
[21:12] <slaffe> 2014-11-24: Munin 2.0.25 is released.
[21:12] <slaffe> ya
[21:12] <slaffe> 2.0..19 is old, compared to what is out there
[21:12] <slaffe> i'll hit the bed instead
[21:12] <slaffe> thanks :)
[21:14] <OerHeks> You could always built the package yourself.
[21:14] <OerHeks> !build
[21:15] <surgy>  can i "DISPLAY="0.1" commandToLaunch to make a program launch on the right monitor?
[21:18] <TJ_on_Wily> surgy, Yes
[21:18] <miki> iam using ubuntu 14.04 i want to disable my 4 core machine to 2 core only by setting maxcpus=2 in /etc/default/grub  but not work
[21:18] <bekks> miki: whats the actual goal behind that?
[21:19] <miki> i install xen on ubuntu i want to disable host core to only 2
[21:19] <bekks> miki: Why? :)
[21:20] <miki> for my experiment i want the host to have only 2 cores
[21:20] <miki> one for dom0 other for domU
[21:21] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, You need the xen parameter   http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/XenCommonProblems#Can_I_dedicate_a_cpu_core_.28or_cores.29_only_for_dom0.3F
[21:21] <miki> no iam not talking about limit dom0 cpu core i want to disable host machine cores
[21:22] <miki> why setting maxcpus=2 in grub file not work?
[21:23] <OerHeks> did you update-grub after that?
[21:23] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, why do you want to disable those cores? They won't be available to the VM guests in that case
[21:23] <miki> yes
[21:23] <bashfr3ak> miki you could a batch scheduler to run whatever you want to run with the specifications you would like :D
[21:23] <bashfr3ak> use*
[21:25] <OerHeks> miki, you really mean cpu, not just a core?
[21:25] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/46011/is-it-possible-to-disable-a-cpu-not-a-core
[21:25] <miki> i do that for my experiment , is there another way to disable cpu core , yes i mean cores
[21:26] <bashfr3ak> http://slurm.schedmd.com/
[21:27] <jr_> overclockers!!!
[21:28] <miki> ok , i will change my question , how to disable cpu core in grub in ubuntu ?
[21:30] <miki> i put maxcpus=2 after quiet splash in /etc/default/grub why not work?
[21:31] <surgy> can i use a .desktop to control which monitor an application starts in? if so what should i put in there?
[21:31] <zLouD> Hello, i have a ubuntu server setup with PHP5.5 and IonCube Loader, but since the upgrade the website software does not work anymore and i got told to "downgrade" to PHP5.3. I rather like to run both version in parallel instead. I've searched the web i could not find something that shows how to do that with a compatible ionCube loader for 5.3. Can you recommend me a tutorial or even help me to install it so i can use the 5.3 version for the website?
[21:33] <anonymous> .
[21:35] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, what does "cat /proc/cmdline" show?
[21:35] <miki> ok just min
[21:36] <miki> placeholder root=UUID=51aafbf0-8b62-481b-8e37-bc24a2bd4caa ro maxcpus=2 quiet splash maxcpus=2
[21:36] <miki> but still 4 core are running?
[21:38] <daftykins> zLouD: look into update-alternatives, perhaps with multiple installed you can pick between - though if one was repo based and another not, no idea.
[21:38] <zLouD> Thanks, i will look into this
[21:38] <zLouD> daftykins: you mean $(update-alternatives) right? Just for clarity
[21:39] <bekks> ziggee: you have to compile one version yourself, using another prefix as the version from the repos.
[21:39] <bekks> then, you may be able to use update-alternatives.
[21:40] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, which kernel build version is it? "uname -r"
[21:40] <zLouD> bekks: you mean me?
[21:40] <bekks> zLouD: Err, yes :)
[21:41] <zLouD> Ah okay, i will try it
[21:41] <surgy> can i use a .desktop to control which monitor an application starts in? if so what should i put in there?
[21:42] <miki> TJ_on_Wily,  it is 3.16.0-39-generic  problem is when install xen  you loginto dom0 so i cant disable core throw echo '0' > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpux/online
[21:42] <Halelujah> Hey how can I put wireless driver in ubuntu mini.iso kernel, please?
[21:45] <daftykins> Halelujah: not a very wise move, what's wrong with booting desktop or server media on your system?
[21:46] <Halelujah> daftykins i need wi-fi driver for in mini.iso :)
[21:47] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, Yeah... I'm reading the kernel source-code. As well as maxcpus= there is a related nr_cpus= but they are both compiled into the Ubuntu kernels so I'm not sure why the kernel isn't respecting the value. How are you determining how many CPUS the kernel is using?
[21:48] <miki> how can i do that
[21:48] <miki> which command
[21:48] <daftykins> Halelujah: no you need to tell me what is wrong with the others, using mini.iso just because you want to is quite frankly ridiculous
[21:48] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, You've been telling us how many CPUs are active; how did you determine that to know that maxcpus= is being ignored?
[21:49] <miki> i check them throw xl info command that show host machine resource
[21:50] <miki> show nr_cpus=4
[21:51] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, Well, there are 4. How about "dmesg | grep 'smpboot: Total'  "
[21:52] <miki> ok just min
[21:52] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, if that doesn't report anything try "dmesg | grep 'Brought up'  "
[21:53] <miki> both of them report nothing
[21:53] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, can you pastebin the entire dmesg ?
[21:54] <miki> ok
[21:56] <mifritscher> moin
[21:57] <mifritscher> I'm using gnome 3 (classic)
[21:57] <mifritscher> after a crash, I've a problem with the gnome-panels
[21:57] <miki> http://pastebin.com/Eb0ME1NX  this is , TJ_on_Wily
[21:58] <mifritscher> most plugins are missing, and I can't access the adaption menu (with alt+right) - I get only a system menu (min/max/close etc.)
[21:58] <mifritscher> how can I fix that?
[22:02] <avilba> Hi everyone, I've got no sound on my Xubuntu 15.04 since last reboot, and I don't know why... xfce indicator applet has disappeared. I tried reinstalling pulseaudio and alsa-base but it didn't work.
[22:02] <avilba> Oh and in the task manager I can see pulseaudio AND the indicator running. I don't understand...
[22:03] <Ev0luti0n_> ubuntu and sound issues... :X good luck!
[22:04] <avilba> Ev0luti0n_, it can't be that hard, it has been working flawessly for a moment.
[22:04] <avilba> until yesterday, actually
[22:05] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, "x86: Booted up 1 node, 1 CPUs"
[22:06] <miki> these are dom0 resource not host machine
[22:07] <miki> because i installed xen on ubuntu we can only see dom0 resources
[22:07] <daftykins> can always spot the Xen folk :)
[22:08] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, right, but doesn't that confirm that you've limited the available CPUs so Dom0 has only 1?
[22:08] <daftykins> avilba: boot an older kernel.
[22:08] <miki> i want to limit cpu cores for domUs
[22:09] <miki> i cant do that without disable host cores
[22:10] <miki> i dont know why kerenal dont respect maxcpus value?
[22:10] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, that's done via "/etc/xen/$GUEST config files, with e.g. "cpus="2-4"  "
[22:10] <arsalan_> Hey guys! :D
[22:10] <arsalan_> Can I ask you a question ?
[22:10] <avilba> daftykins, Ok I'm doing it right now (the problem is on anoter computer)
[22:10] <daftykins> !ask | arsalan_
[22:10] <avilba> Actually I aso realised I
[22:10] <daftykins> avilba: pressed enter too soon?
[22:11] <avilba> 've got a weird case of applet icons appearing and disappearing
[22:11] <miki> i know that i want to disable cpu cores in host machine
[22:11] <mifritscher> ok, ~/.config/dconf/user was corrupt
[22:12] <avilba> daftykins, yep, sorry... So my bluetooth applet icoon disappeared and I didn't why. I didn't care cause I don't use BT. But now the sound icon is gone and the sound as well
[22:12] <daftykins> focus on the main task first
[22:13] <avilba> Yes sure but maybe this could indicate a source for that problem...
[22:14] <avilba> Errr, noob question, how do I boot an older kernel ?
[22:14] <avilba> Tried holding shift but it booted just as usual
[22:14] <isene> Has anyone had problems with dropbox after upgrading to 15.04? Mine hangs on status "Starting..." and after a few hours dies
[22:15] <camrac> mine seems fine
[22:15] <miki> are there another way to disable cores in ubuntu? other that maxcpus? i put this parameter in /etc/default/grub , are there other grub file?
[22:17] <camrac> anyone have a link to installing xfce on 15.04?
[22:18] <kadiro> camrac: apt-cache search xfce
[22:20] <miki> TJ_on_Wily, i will update the kernal and see
[22:21] <arsalan_> Hi guys! I would really appreciate it, if you could help me! I am working on a project that is similar to Shazam, I have a source code on a linux computer which gets a 10-second wav audio file and outputs the name of the song. So, everything works offline now. I was wondering how I can setup a server using ubuntu in order to support online recognition.
[22:21] <kadiro> miki: the safe modification is on /etc/default/grub so yes
[22:22] <miki> kardiro after quiet splash put maxcpus right
[22:22] <kadiro> yes this is the best way to test
[22:23]  * kadiro only for test if worked put it to /etc/default/grub
[22:25] <daftykins> arsalan_: time to learn web server administration i guess ;)
[22:28] <surgy> i need help getting applications to run on the proper monitor
[22:29] <arsalan_> daftykins: Do you know any sources?
[22:29] <surgy> ive been looking and asking all day and just cant seams to find an answer..... im running ubuntu 14.04 kernal 3.19 unity
[22:31] <daftykins> arsalan_: learning to setup apache on ubuntu server probably has multiple million blog posts online
[22:33] <avilba> daftykins, For my sound problem, I just booted using an older kernel, but the problem stayed the same : no sound and no sound indicator applet.
[22:34] <twank> test
[22:35] <daftykins> avilba: did you try them all?
[22:35] <avilba> yes
[22:35] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, You need options that the Xen hypervisor accepts, set in grub's GRUB_CMDLINE_XEN
[22:35] <avilba> I've got only one anyway, because my computer is very recent
[22:36] <miki> ok i will check , thank you
[22:37] <avilba> daftykins, even when booting in recovery mode, there's nothing. Sometimes the BT icon reappears, but I don't care about BT anyway
[22:38] <daftykins> recovery mode doesn't give a desktop though... why would it have audio? :)
[22:38] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, If you look at the xen source the hypervisor debian/xen-hpyervisor-$(arch).postinst calls update-grub... which will call /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen... which adds an entry via the function linux_entry() which takes its 6th argument as the parameters passed to the Xen hypervisor via the grub.cfg "multiboot " statement, which adds the 6th argument. That argument is set by various calls to linux_entry() and the 6th arg is set from "GRUB_CMDLINE_XEN
[22:38] <TJ_on_Wily> GRUB_CMDLINE_XEN_DEFAULT"
[22:38] <miki> ok
[22:39] <avilba> daftykins, I mean I went through the recovery mode process and ended on the desktop. Anyway, still no sound !
[22:39] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, as to whether that will do what you want ... who knows!!
[22:40] <miki> ok i am checking
[22:42] <daftykins> avilba: ah well beyond me then
[22:43] <avilba> daftykins, ok nevermind, thank you anyway
[22:48] <nkm> noob question, but if one wanted to see what a linux program was written in, where is the source code? For example, /bin/grep
[22:49] <miki> TJ_on_Wily, also not work , am also update kernal to 3.16.0-46-generic also not work i am going crazy :(
[22:50] <miki> so there is no way to disable cores on xen host or there something with the kerenal?
[22:55] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, The kernels are compiled to support maxcpus=
[22:56] <TJ_on_Wily> miki, I think you need to talk to the Xen devs; try their mailing-list
[22:56] <miki> ok i will do , than you for your help TJ_on_Wily
[23:01] <surgy>  i need help. im actually running ubuntu 14.04 kernal 3.19 with unity wm. i have two monitors. I have a program that keeps opening in the left monitor. i want it to open in the right monitor. i have tried compiz settings and other things. i think the problem is actually in X sense it does the same in all flavors of ubuntu.
[23:09] <surgy> in ubuntu 14.04 can i use a .desktop to determine which monitor the application will start on? if so then how?
[23:17] <apb1963> anyone have any idea how I can determine the lease time my ISP uses for dynamic IPs?
[23:19] <promet> does anyone have a suggestion for a "respectable" VPN vendor?  :P
[23:50] <Paulin11> Everytime i install a proprietary drive and reboot, after the grub show a message error: "ACPI PCC Probe Failed". after this a blank screen appears and doesnt initiate ubuntu. so i have to run in generic recovery mode to initiate. then i come back to ubuntu default drive to initiate o normally again. I have a nvidia board and already tried 346.82 and the newest 352.41(the recommended version for my board described on the site) versions of drivers.
[23:51] <Paulin11> I'm using 14.04 but I'm also used in 15.04 version of ubuntu and the same error appears
[23:52] <Paulin11> somebody could help me?
[23:56] <frank__> Hi !! i need help with qbittorrent!!! Ive trying to connect my cellhphone whit qbittorrent remote!! But ive make too much attempt of connection and now my ip is blocked!!
[23:56] <frank__> Ive search on google for this and the only way to resolve its to restart qbittorrent!!
[23:57] <frank__> I have restart my server completely byt nothing!!


[17:08] <PaulW2U> pleia2: editorial review done but since I wrote all of the summaries I didn't find much that I wanted to change :)
[17:08] <pleia2> hehe
[17:08] <pleia2> thanks, I did some when I moved the articles over too
[18:19] <PaulW2U> right, explains why I couldn't remember using the word "speculate" :)
[18:20] <pleia2> hah, yeah, I find the var guy's posts to be low on news (news is already out there) and high on musings/speculations, so I try to make that clear
[18:20] <pleia2> his speculations/musings are interesting and important, so we include them as such :)


[10:54] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[13:44] <InHisName> Don't you care about the Sailors and wannabe Pirates ?