[16:26] <Wiz_KeeD> just register you nickname, should work
[16:26] <fmedina> cool
[16:26] <Wobbo> How to change the desktop setting, alredy at login?
[16:27] <Jeroi> hello
[16:28] <Bio615> howdi
[16:28] <thnee> Wiz_KeeD: try googling "asus k55a ubuntu"
[16:28] <Jeroi> I have huge problems with ubuntu desktop boot
[16:28] <Con7e> IRC is so damn confusing. It's like beeing in public.
[16:28] <Wiz_KeeD> will do thee
[16:28] <Jeroi> Firstly I instaled nvidia latest
[16:28] <Jeroi> then Amarok
[16:28] <Jeroi> then Knversation
[16:28] <thnee> Wiz_KeeD: otherwise I recommend thinkpads, they have great linux compatibility
[16:29] <Jeroi> Thunderbirs 5 emails
[16:29] <Jeroi> Then I started to hassle with system font.conf
[16:29] <Jeroi> I installed Arimo fotn
[16:29] <Jeroi> and replaced in font.conf Sans with Arimo
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> thnee, that's lenovo right?
[16:29] <Jeroi> then I sun some update command for fonts
[16:29] <ggherdov> how come that on my ubuntu 12.04 I get zero results for `apt-cache search trac` while the trac package do exist for 12.04 http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/trac ?
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> lenovo thinkpad
[16:30] <thnee> indeed
[16:30] <Jeroi> run*
[16:30] <Jeroi> then I wanted to reboot to see xorg changes
[16:30] <Martinjo84> The 40 series of lenovo is coming in a few days :D
[16:30] <thnee> ggherdov: apt-get update?
[16:30] <Jeroi> but for my misery bootup fails to "stopping save kernel messages"
[16:31] <BluesKaj> Wiz_KeeD. well , looks fine ., dual gpu optimus system to muck things up
[16:31] <Jeroi> I then used live usb binded my linux drive folder as system folders and removed nvidia*
[16:31] <BluesKaj> no dual gpus
[16:31] <Jeroi> re installed xorg-conf
[16:31] <Wiz_KeeD> it has optimus BluesKaj ??
[16:31] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah, that's exactly what I wanted to avoid :D
[16:31] <BluesKaj> no it doesn't
[16:31] <Jeroi> and now my linux boot hangs in samller window loading screen wihtout any messages...
[16:32] <Wiz_KeeD> that's why I liked it, and since I do coding and never games or rendering, it's the perfect laptop
[16:32] <BluesKaj> it's intel onboard graphics
[16:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Just linux compatibility
[16:32] <mrafiq> how to access desktop in terminal
[16:32] <Jeroi> gdm restart
[16:32] <BluesKaj> should be fine , Wiz_KeeD
[16:32] <mrafiq> when ever i tried to access the desktp via terminal it gives no sucn directory exists
[16:33] <mrafiq> i type cd/home/Desktop
[16:33] <ggherdov> thnee: i did `apt-get update`. Either I have a custom /etc/sources.list, either it's voodoo (it a dedicated server, I didn't set it up myself)
[16:33] <bl4ckdu5t> sorry for this weird question but I just forgot where the sources.lst file is located
[16:33] <mrafiq> can any body help me
[16:33] <Random832> mrafiq: you need your username
[16:33] <bl4ckdu5t> where can I find it?
[16:33] <Random832> mrafiq: or type cd ~/Desktop
[16:33] <lukodiablo> hwo to enable wlan0 for monitor mode ( driver 8812au model usb sitecom WLA 7100 http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Sitecom_WLA-7100 )
[16:33] <thnee> ggherdov: obviously if you modified sources.list this will affect it
[16:33] <Random832> bl4ckdu5t: /etc/apt
[16:33] <Random832> and i tihnk there's a sources.list.d now
[16:34] <Wiz_KeeD> BluesKaj, last one had the optimus crap and other issues with it, still trying to return it
[16:34] <Wiz_KeeD> never again shall I touch that optimus crap
[16:34] <mrafiq> \i have also typed my user name as cd/home/mrafiq/desktop
[16:34] <BluesKaj> Wiz_KeeD. ahh
[16:34] <Wiz_KeeD> Satan's tool I tell you...
[16:34] <Random832> mrafiq: you're being sloppy in typing in chat, are you this sloppy on the command line? Desktop is capitalized, and you need a space after cd
[16:35] <bl4ckdu5t> thanks
[16:35] <mrafiq> i also did so by typing Desktop
[16:35] <mrafiq> thank you i have acced my desktop
[16:37] <ggherdov> how different is this http://paste.debian.net/63518/ from a "sane" sources.list for ubuntu precise ?
[16:37] <lukodiablo> where i can get the right mac80211 driver for my card?
[16:37] <DrGrov> Anyone in here speak fluent German and could help with an app I want from a PPA? The instructions I need to translate somehow. Not sure if it is for 64-bit or not.
[16:38] <thnee> ggherdov: here is mine http://paste.debian.net/63519/
[16:38] <mrafiq> how can i start tor
[16:38] <ggherdov> thnee: thanks
[16:38] <thnee> ggherdov: from 13.10 (upgraded from 13.04)
[16:39] <niez> hi, how can I make bootable usb using linux?
[16:39] <niez> i have ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> Niedar: inetbootin
[16:39] <thnee> niez: just dd it onto the device
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> Niez^
[16:39] <niez> hitsujiTMO, didn't work
[16:40] <niez> thnee, didn't wor too
[16:40] <mrafiq> how to start tor in ubuntu
[16:40] <zykotick9> thnee: cat or cp, is easier then dd IMO.  niez
[16:40] <thnee> "didnt work" is not an acceptable problem description
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> niez: what exactly didn't work? how didn't it work?
[16:40] <niez> zykotick9, tried cat, also doesn't work
[16:40] <zykotick9> !doesntwork
[16:40] <thnee> niez: you are most likely doing it wrong
[16:41] <niez> ok, i'll give you eror message, but i'll need to make this usb stick one again
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> niez: if you're not doing it wrong, then you've the pc set up wrong
[16:41] <mrafiq> how to setup tor browser in ubuntu
[16:41] <zykotick9> niez: do you know the device of your USB?  /dev/sdb for example.
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> niez: you should check the hash of the iso file too
[16:42] <niez> ok, i'm making it once again, trying with dd...
[16:42] <GingerGeek> Hi, I'm writing a script and I have a logic understanding problem: https://gist.github.com/GingerGeek/7280848 Am I missing something, I execte the script with bash ScriptName.sh - Note that this is a logic test after I had an issue with a larger script Im writing
[16:42] <niez> oh, yes, first md5
[16:42] <GingerGeek> *execute
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> niez: what is the exact command you're using to dd?
[16:43] <thnee> GingerGeek: I fail do see an actual question
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> GingerGeek: #bash is a more suitable place to ask that question
[16:44] <Marlenee> anyone here can use cssh AKA cluster SSH i need some help .
[16:44] <thnee> !ask
[16:46] <niez> whare can i find checksum for ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso ?
[16:46] <new0> wow, just finish this reading. awesome :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[16:46] <thnee> niez: in the place you downloaded it...
[16:46] <niez> ?
[16:47] <niez> thnee, i have only .iso file, downloaded form web page
[16:47] <thnee> what web page?
[16:47] <zykotick9> !md5sums | niez
[16:48] <niez> ubuntu.com
[16:48] <niez> great, thanks!
[16:48] <niez> that should be somwhere on download page!
[16:49] <Wobbo> Can anyone help me hou to change the default desktop screensetting, to make sure new users having the right setting? My settings are good, how can I copy that setting... but where is that setting? lol
[16:50] <lukodiablo> please help.. how i can enable my 8812au for monitor mode? i guess i have run differend driver bud dont know which mac80211 driver have choice...
[16:50] <bekks> Wobbo: For copying it, you have to create a new user first.
[16:50] <enen92> hey there, I've ubuntu 12.04 installed but my wifi drops connection randomly. Once it goes out I only get the connection again after rebooting the machine. Any hints on how to trace the problem?
[16:50] <enen92> found in the web the solution is to downgrade openssl and libssl
[16:50] <enen92> how can I do that?
[16:50] <bekks> enen92: You dont want to do that, because of security fixes, etc.
[16:51] <enen92> ok so what options do I have
[16:51] <enen92> ?
[16:51] <enen92>  Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)
[16:51] <enen92> this is my wifi controler
[16:51] <pfifo> hello world
[16:52] <enen92> or there is any way I can reboot the wifi without rebooting the pc?
[16:53] <GingerGeek> thanks hitsujiTMO Im there now
[16:53] <GingerGeek> thnee: the question was how do I get the expeted output
[16:56] <thnee> GingerGeek: then I would like to see an explanation of why, if you can't boil it down further
[16:56] <Lars_G_> Does anyone have more information on this issue with 12.04 and xenserver? http://askubuntu.com/questions/126631/why-do-i-get-disk-i-o-errors-booting-the-3-2-kernel-on-a-xen-vps-server
[16:56] <babinlonston> Hi Installed Wordpress in a Hosting  , i have installed in a directory wp , how to access my site using www.example.com
[16:57] <babinlonston> always its  opening as www.example.com/wp
[16:57] <bekks> babinlonston: So which Ubuntu are you running on your server?
[16:58] <yeats> babinlonston: does http://localhost/wp work?
[16:58] <babinlonston> bekks: its Ubuntu  12.04
[16:58] <pfifo> GingerGeek: because your setting the value of i at the start of the for loop, try making an 'oldi' value that gets set to i at the beginning, and then at the end of the for loop make i=oldi
[16:58] <babinlonston> yes its works
[16:59] <yeats> babinlonston: you can add something like '<IP_ADDRESS> www.example.com' to /etc/hosts?
[16:59] <GingerGeek> pfifo, thnee: Thanks for help but I've sorted it now!
[16:59] <babinlonston> k
[17:00] <pfifo> GingerGeek: usually its a bad idea to use a recursive function though, you might want to redesign
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: so you installed it to a folder wp so you have to access it thru example.com/wp    but you want to access thru example.com/       maybe not put it in that folder wp?
[17:00] <GingerGeek> pfifo: This is my first Bash Script ever, but thanks for tip
[17:00] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: u understood me :)
[17:02] <new0> how to ps -aux for specific program?
[17:02] <pfifo> new0: 'ps aux | grep specific\ program'
[17:02] <zykotick9> new0: fyi it's "ps aux" the - is an error, in this case.  see the top of your current output for confirmation.
[17:03] <DrGrov> Is 13.10 known as Saucy?
[17:03] <bekks> Yes.
[17:03] <zykotick9> !13.10
[17:03] <yeats> new0: 'ps aux' OR 'ps -elf' no dash on the first variant
[17:03] <thnee> ps auxww :)
[17:03] <new0> zykotick9, i noted that. pfifo tnx ps aux | grep apache2?
[17:04] <new0> can i have some link like: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[17:04] <Frank81> new 0
[17:05] <Frank81> you don't need that now i answer you ubuntu related stay cool
[17:06] <ozbrk> ok guys I installed xubuntu and it shines like sun but I have a video problem with the internet
[17:06] <Frank81> you do following "chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/"
[17:06] <ozbrk> I can't watch videos because of the lagging
[17:06] <Frank81> then you can go into /etc/apache2/sites-aviable/000-default is the default host you can edit it and make it catch all host
[17:06] <new0> Frank81, right tnx
[17:07] <fa485> Hello
[17:07] <Frank81> and simply copy it to add new vhosts
[17:07] <ripthejacker> ozbrk: Sometimes the browser freezes, right?
[17:07] <Frank81> then after that do a2ensite /etc/apache2/sites-available/testsite.com
[17:07] <ripthejacker> or is it just the buffering problem?
[17:07] <Frank81> and after that sudo service apache2 restart
[17:07] <Frank81> to make the changes take effect
[17:08] <new0> chown -R www-data:www-data www/ is that good too?
[17:08] <Frank81> not good
[17:08] <ozbrk> ripthejacker first question how can you write it like that and second one is an answer
[17:08] <ozbrk> nope
[17:08] <Frank81> since your www root is /var/www
[17:08] <niez> ms5sum is ok: ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso: OK
[17:08] <ozbrk> I just can't watch videos and it's hard to surfing into the heavy websites like facebook
[17:09] <ripthejacker> ozbrk: write like what?
[17:09] <ozbrk> red
[17:09] <bekks> ozbrk: So which CPU and how much RAM do you have?
[17:09] <mojtaba> Hi, I have run firefox and another program via command line. with the jobs command I can see the list. Is there any command related to jobs which can help me to kill one of the jobs?
[17:09] <new0> Frank81, ok. if u can, wait. i need one step at the time. first i do chown -R www-data:www-data ~/home/www/ ?
[17:09] <ripthejacker> ozbrk: It's probably your irc client , I am writing plain text
[17:09] <Frank81> nope
[17:09] <thnee> mojtaba: look into bg, fg, jobs
[17:10] <pfifo> ozbrk: when someone puts 'ozbrk' into a line of text you IRC client makes it red so you can spot it easilly
[17:10] <Frank81> ./home/www
[17:10] <thnee> mojtaba: for killing use ps auxww|grep firefox, killall, pkill, kill, etc
[17:10] <Frank81> isn't existing normaly
[17:10] <mojtaba> thnee: There is no man entry for jobs!
[17:10] <Frank81> ubuntu standart apache www dir is /var/www
[17:10] <Frank81> nothing else
[17:10] <ozbrk> 'ripthrjacket' likethat
[17:10] <ozbrk> nope
[17:10] <ozbrk> :S
[17:10] <ozbrk> whatever
[17:10] <FloodBot1> ozbrk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:10] <ripthejacker> ozbrk: use tab completion on names
[17:11] <ozbrk> guys  I have 2 GB Ram and an asus eee r101
[17:11] <thnee> mojtaba: try google
[17:11] <zykotick9> !tab
[17:11] <ripthejacker> ozbrk: bekks had asked you a question, Maybe he has some solution
[17:11] <Frank81> and that don't means /home/user/var/www
[17:11] <bekks> ozbrk: thats a very slow computer.
[17:11] <Frank81> it means /var/www
[17:11] <Calinou> ozbrk: eeePCs have slow CPUs. nothing to do agaisnt that
[17:11] <mojtaba> thnee: Thank you. Best answer.
[17:11] <ozbrk> thats why I'm using xubuntu
[17:11] <bekks> ozbrk: xubuntu will not make your CPU faster.
[17:11] <ozbrk> I sloved all other problesm except this
[17:11] <Frank81> apache on ubuntu is not configured for running user sites maybe you should install something like webmin
[17:11] <Calinou> no OS will
[17:12] <bekks> ozbrk: It is that slow that you wont be able to use facebook without heavy lagging.
[17:12] <ozbrk> so you say I'm just hopeless :D
[17:12] <bekks> !webmin | Frank81
[17:12] <bekks> Frank81: Do not recoomend webmin please.
[17:13] <new0> Frank81, ok, i just did: sudo chown -R www-data:www-data ~/www/ and no change are made
[17:13] <ozbrk> bekks: ok what should I do
[17:13] <bekks> ozbrk: Get faster hardware.
[17:13] <thnee> mojtaba: you are welcome
[17:13] <pfifo> ozbrk: ditch firefox and try chromuim
[17:13] <pfifo> ozbrk: remove flash, its a resource hog
[17:14] <joe___> hey all -I've got windows installed on a first hard drive & I want to install 12.04 on a separate drive but gparted doesn't seem to show a mount point option anywhere for me set a root partition on this second drive...any ideas/
[17:14] <joe___> ?
[17:14] <NTFS83> will kim kardashian save me from sins?
[17:14] <ozbrk> pfifo: without flash I can't watch flash videos
[17:14] <ozbrk> simple locig
[17:14] <zykotick9> ozbrk: flash takes a lot of CPU power :(  1) are you using non-free flash version?  it's much faster then gnash  2) use the lowest quality available, does that help?  try youtube html5 at youtube.com/html5  - best of luck, i doubt anything will "solve" the problem, but something might improve it!
[17:14] <new0> Frank81, than what do i need to do?
[17:14] <ripthejacker> bekks: I wanted to know something similar, What is a good linux distro for an Windows User, with a netbook, RAM 1 GB, Intel Atom Processor 1.6 Ghz?
[17:15] <pfifo> ozbrk: drop flash from your eee and only watch flash on your fast desktop computer
[17:15] <NTFS83> will kim kardashian save me from sins?
[17:15] <new0> Frank81, ok. i just look at ur answer above. but my www is at my home folder
[17:15] <ripthejacker> Ubuntu is out of the question
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> ripthejacker: try ##linux
[17:15] <bekks> ripthejacker: Then your question is offtopic in here :)
[17:15] <ozbrk> zykotick9: 1)adobeflash with opera   -  2)simply NO :)
[17:15] <ripthejacker> bekks: :P ok
[17:16] <Frank81> new
[17:16] <Frank81> then you don't installed ubuntu sorry
[17:16] <thnee> ripthejacker: why not ubuntu? you do realize you can install any GUI you want right?
[17:16] <ozbrk> maybe opera browser causes it
[17:16] <Frank81> then you probally installed apache your self?
[17:16] <aFeijo> folks, got a big problem in my ubuntu server... I run apt-get update -y and since then the cron isnt working properly, I have a php script running every 5 minutes, but its no longer working
[17:16] <Frank81> the standart apache ubuntu package makes no www root in your home
[17:16] <ripthejacker> you mean DE?
[17:16] <NTFS83> will kim kardashian save me from sins?
[17:16] <thnee> aFeijo: don't use PHP for that
[17:17] <aFeijo> thnee, hehe, not an option
[17:17] <new0> Frank81, no no. i did, but i change my htdocs to home/www location also by the sites-avalible/deafult
[17:17] <joe___> hey all -I've got windows installed on a first hard drive & I want to install 12.04 on a separate drive but gparted doesn't seem to show a mount point option anywhere for me set a root partition on this second drive...any ideas?
[17:17] <joe___>
[17:17] <thnee> ripthejacker: whatever floats your boat
[17:18] <RealOpty> hello :)
[17:18] <thnee> joe___: do you see the parition that you want to install on?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> joe___  what's the output of lsblk ? use pastebin
[17:19] <joe___> I can see the drive - and I can't create an ext4 partition etc - but I thought I'd have the options to define it as root etc?
[17:20] <NTFS83> DID KIM KARDASHIAN DIE ON THE CROSS TO SAVE US FROM SINS?
[17:20] <xofaw> joe___: try parted magic
[17:20] <pfifo> joe___: gparted dosent do that, you define it as root during the install process
[17:20] <new0> Frank81, ok. i had only one DIR at ~/home/www/site and i can see it on my localhost. but the other DIRs i can't see. as i did ls -o the site have drwxrwxr-x and the others have: drwx
[17:20] <new0> Frank81, ok. i had only one DIR at ~/home/www/site and i can see it on my localhost. but the other DIRs i can't see. as i did ls -o the site have drwxrwxr-x and the others have: drwx------
[17:20] <niez> after using dd i get: (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[17:20] <joe___> weird as when I run the install and select the ext4 drive it says there's no root partition...
[17:20] <matrei> quit
[17:21] <NTFS83> DID KIM KARDASHIAN DIE ON THE CROSS TO SAVE US FROM SINS?
[17:21] <bekks> !ot || NTFS83
[17:21] <pfifo> !repeat | NTFS83
[17:21] <thnee> omg what is it with some people in this channel
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> où
[17:22] <LjL> !ops | NTFS83 seems like this is the usual person
[17:22] <pfifo> niez: what wrong?
[17:22] <xofaw> joe___: have you tried to isntall with custom settings and partitioned ur drive urself
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> thnee  with some people in general, so here too
[17:22] <NTFS83> ljl your an op so you ban me
[17:23] <LjL> (sorry, i mean, *obviously* this is the usual person)
[17:23] <xofaw> NTFS83: ure dunk go somewhere else
[17:23] <NTFS83> !ops | ljl spammer
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> NTFS83  you've had our attention, now go back to mommy and ask some hot milk
[17:23] <joe___> just partitioned in gparted...
[17:24] <jmgk> heh Monkey
[17:24] <wdonkey> hello, i want to make a backup image of a system on a usb stick, what are my options (needs to be easy)
[17:25] <pfifo> joe___: gparted is a partitioning tool. it dosent install ubuntu
[17:25] <bekks> !backup | wdonkey
[17:25] <joe___> I was trying to create the root partition the 12.04 installer asks for -
[17:26] <bekks> joe___: you need to assign a partition for /
[17:26] <pfifo> joe___: gparted can do that (create a partition) but to use it as root you will have to tell the installer to use it as root
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> joe___  no, create a partition with gparted, then assign it to / during installation
[17:27] <RealOpty> xofaw, i was going to ask the room for a ubuntu server guide for seting up a redundant website.
[17:27] <Chat8991> Hi
[17:27] <ozbrk> ok guys I can't buy a new netbook
[17:27] <RealOpty> I have 6 VPS boxes
[17:27] <joe___> I shall go back to drawing board and try again. Thanks all
[17:27] <ozbrk> I can't upgrade to a new cpu
[17:27] <bekks> ozbrk: a new netbook is the only option to speed up things.
[17:28] <new0> Frank81, ok got it. sudo chmod 775 file and now i can see it in file listing on brower, but i just did it for one DIR and now i can see them all. weird.
[17:28] <new0> how can i connect to mysql?
[17:28] <bekks> new0: by using the "mysql" application.
[17:29] <grendal-prime> grrrrr.
[17:29] <grendal-prime> i cannot get nicserve to work
[17:29] <ozbrk> bekks:  I don't have much money for that
[17:29] <bekks> ozbrk: Then you have to live with the current situation.
[17:29] <new0> bekks, tnx. is there a guide for commands?
[17:29] <bekks> new0: "mysql" is the command.
[17:30] <new0> bekks, right. now it's the mysql queies. tnx
[17:30] <bekks> new0: you will find a full blown mysql documenation on www.mysql.com
[17:30] <pfifo> ozbrk: I would remove flash, and use the lightest browser available. If you have to watch a flash video, download the video and play it with mplayer or some other video player that your system can run properly. If your so addicted to flash that you absolutly must have it, buy a new computer that can run it
[17:30] <byllgrim> so mad
[17:31] <new0> bekks, tnx
[17:31] <byllgrim> "im sick of fighting with linux. ill install ubuntu. thatl probably be pretty streamlined because of the fuckload of users"
[17:31] <bekks> !language | byllgrim
[17:32] <byllgrim> oh, family friendly. sorry
[17:32] <byllgrim> does that mean my message didnt arrive?
[17:32] <pfifo> byllgrim: 99% of freenode is
[17:32] <bekks> byllgrim: It arrived, otherwise I wouldnt have read it.
[17:32] <pfifo> byllgrim: not sure what your asking though
[17:32] <xofaw> byllgrim: you dont fight with linux. you just havent figured it out yet
[17:33] <byllgrim> yeah, i just havent figured it out yet
[17:33] <new0> how can i fix that errror on boot: ta_id[279]: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument?
[17:34] <byllgrim> i just have to type in a lot of commands to fix my super huge cursors, that i now have because the installer wouldnt allow me to turn of handicaped mode
[17:35] <byllgrim> its nessesary to do such a simple task in a hard way because i havent figured out linux
[17:36] <psusi> new0, you mean ata_id?
[17:37] <byllgrim> having to use google to find a page on ubuntu.com, not because ubuntu.com is traded being retarded for user friendlyness, but because i havent figured out linux
[17:37] <new0> psusi, yes
[17:37] <psusi> new0, what kind of drive is sdb?
[17:38] <new0> psusi, i have External USB 1TB
[17:38] <byllgrim> as expected, this channel is flooded with "how do i fix..."
[17:38] <pfifo> most people dont come in to say everything is working right
[17:39] <Jeakle> pfifo <- +1
[17:39] <psusi> new0, well, it isn't hurting anything so you can just ignore it, or file a bug report
[17:39] <pfifo> but just for reference, im running 12.04 and 13.10 and both are operating 100%
[17:40] <psusi> new0, if you file a bug report it would be against the udev package
[17:40] <new0> psusi, well, it's not really bother. but i would want my system to load as fast as it can :)
[17:40] <new0> psusi, can u guide me?
[17:41] <psusi> new0, at filing a bug report?
[17:42] <intrader> Anyone, hitsujiTMO and I interacted last night about the failure of graphics to come alive at the end of boot of 12.04.3. However, I observed that the the an unfinished upgrade from 13.10 is the cause of the failure of 12.10.3 to finish coming up; a message from acpid: exiting\n\lUpgrading in progress... leads to believe that the problem for 12.04 was cause by 13.10
[17:42] <new0> psusi, not sure what u said but i guess so
[17:42] <new0> psusi, i want to solve it
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: a bit odd considering that it should not have touched your 12.04 install at all
[17:43] <psusi> new0, you can file a bug report at launchpad.net/ubuntu, but there isn't really anything to solve other than making the error message shut up
[17:44] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, you are awake - it is repeatable an perhaps worth pursuing.
[17:44] <psusi> not all usb drives report that information and apparently yours is one that does not... that's ok, it just shouldn't complain about it is all
[17:44] <new0> psusi, maybe i can tell my ubuntu to boot from the right location and load the system faster?
[17:45] <quest88> Is anyone running a laptop with 16GB+ ram and a SSD as their primary drive? If so, what laptop did you go with?
[17:45] <psusi> new0, what disk you are booting from and how fast is neither here nor there... the error message is just saying it couldn't query some esoteric information from that drive
[17:46] <wdonkey> is there some app to make a backup & recovery img of my system i could lunch out of a usb stick ?
[17:46] <new0> psusi, right so it's just a msg. ok tnx
[17:46] <wdonkey> there use to be one but im not sure anymore
[17:47] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, the 12.04.3 install went Ok - I worked on 12.04.3 for a while until I failed to restore tomboy's notes. I decided to look in 13.10, and booted 13.10 - found where tomboy notes are stored, made a copy, and then shutdown 13.10 to restart 12.04. Then 12.04 fails.
[17:47] <psusi> new0, right... the system is just trying to find out details about that drive when it is connected and complaining because it doesn't support some details
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: thats abit bizare ... a 13.10 install should not effect the 12.04 install at all.  How did you make the partition for 13.10?
[17:50] <ermac_> with x11vnc server in softcenter can someone else in another computer remote view me?
[17:53] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, you are awake and going!. In the meantime I considered reinstalling 12.04.3 on to of it after reading  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation. The install of 12.043. was done after 13.10 was shakily running.  The 12.04.3 install found space tor 12.04.3
[17:53] <thnee> quest88: can't go wrong with a thinkpad
[17:54] <Shinobi> I've got a dd image I can't mount because it can't read the last bock. Can I add a null block to the end somehow?
[17:54] <thnee> Harvt: normally you would need to install a program in order to use it
[17:54] <Harvt> thnee: if i want another person that is not in my network to remote me then i would ahve to port forward?
[17:55] <thnee> Harvt: obviously that depends on your network?
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: doing such an install can lead to other problems, but it might be worth a try
[17:55] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, the history: upgrade 12.04 -->12.10-->13.04-->13.10. Troubles with 13.10 leads me to install 12.04.3.
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: tbh, i'd almost try a clean install altogether ... get ridf of 13.10 and 12.04 and start from scratch
[17:58] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Sorry to disturb in the middle. You have any good guides on tweaking in Ubuntu related to CPU, fans and so forth?
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: install indicator-cpufreq
[17:58] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: How would you do with fans otherwise? Change in the BIOS something or just leave it be?
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: never mess with the fan.
[17:59] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I thought of that route also. However, I tried restoring the tomboy notes from a backup and did not find in the backup on account of not being in the backup.
[17:59] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, will try indicator-cpufreq. It seems like the darn thing is not "slowing down" at all. It keeps running at maximum all the time. Noise wise at least.
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: is it definately the cpu and not the gpu generating the heat?
[18:00] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone I am trying ..bashrc and .~/.bashrc and both dont seem to work. says command not found . ubuntu 12.04
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> drGrov: what gpu do oyu have?
[18:00] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: I have a nVidia GT 620 1GB.
[18:00] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I think that 13.10 is shaky - problems with Eclipse, problems with garbled lines in Xchat and other applications, problems with android SDK, etc
[18:01] <anternat> is there a default irc client that comes in 12.04 server install?
[18:01] <trism> Vivekananda: you need a space between the first dot and the file you want to source
[18:01] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: I doesn't seem to be the heat. It seems to be the overall noise level, gives a feel that it is running very hard somehow even though it is not using much CPU nor mem at all.
[18:01] <trism> Vivekananda: . .bashrc
[18:02] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, so my preference would be to install 12.04.3 destroying both 13.10 and 12.04. But first update th backup to contain the tomboy notes.
[18:02] <jmgk> hey Vivek
[18:02] <jmgk> Vivekananda,
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: normally for noise pollution like that i just buy a silent fan :P  but it's best to make sure that the cpu isn't on full... install indicator-cpufreq and you can manually set the cpu to its lowest speed. are you on the proprieTARY DRIVERS FOR THE GRAPHICS CARD AT ALL?
[18:04] <zero_coder> hello
[18:04] <zero_coder> my computer is freezing at times
[18:04] <zero_coder> i am runnning ubuntu 13.10
[18:04] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Yes, I am on nvidia-319-updates.
[18:04] <SPEEDWAVE> what date release of steam os? is that linux?
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: do you have an external drive that you can images the partitions too?
[18:05] <Vivekananda> trism: thanks. Also after this line in the bashrc -- export CATALINA_HOME=/media/Yojimbo/installationFiles/apache-tomcat-7.0.33/   I try $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh it says  --  bash: /bin/startup.sh: No such file or directory
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> DrGov, so at least you should have propper power management for the gpu at least. try playing with indicator-cpufreq so
[18:05] <apb1963> so I just had another system freeze... had to do a hard reboot.  ubuntu 12.04 with kde
[18:05] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Yes, just installed indicator-cpufreq. Will start it now to see.
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | SPEEDWAVE: try #steamos
[18:06] <Vivekananda> I guess I am not executing it by just typing that. right ?
[18:06] <kostkon> apb1963, avoid hard reboots, always REISUB
[18:06] <apb1963> kostkon: What is REISUB?
[18:06] <apb1963> well of course I'm going to try and avoid it...  but the system locked up.
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: you mey need to reboot for ti to show up in the systray
[18:07] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: It showed up without reboot. Started it from terminal.
[18:07] <Radkos> hello
[18:07] <trism> Vivekananda: can you pastebin the end of the bashrc so we can look at it?
[18:07] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: It is set to "ondemand" by default now.
[18:07] <Vivekananda> trism sure
[18:07] <apb1963> luckily I was able to open a virtual terminal briefly (you know, with function keys).
[18:07] <kostkon> apb1963, keep pressing left ALT + PRNT SCR and then R+E+I+S+U+B waiting 2-3 secs between presses
[18:08] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Is there any easy way to add that indicator-cpufreq to run at startup when I log in to Unity?
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: set it to the lowest cpu freq and see if the fans start to slow down
[18:08] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, a use hard disk may have enough space. You are suggesting to backup the sda5 (13.10) and sda7 (12.04.3)partitions to the hard drive
[18:08] <apb1963> during that brief time I was able to start TOP... and see the load climb to over 30
[18:08] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ok, I will set it to the lowest.
[18:08] <SPEEDWAVE> ubottu, uhmm... ok
[18:08] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, 'usb' instead of 'use'
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: it will run on startup anyway
[18:08] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: How long should it take for them to slow done?
[18:09] <apb1963> everytime I killed a process that was hogging the CPU, a different process would hog the CPU until I killed it.
[18:09] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ah, it will keep itself there all the time. That is convinient :)
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: if you dd the partitions you can load them later with mount loop
[18:09] <apb1963> first I killed skype... then chrome.... then Libreoffice (soffice.bin)... the load kept climbing.
[18:09] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Nothing happens really. It makes all the noise anyhow. So it is not a cpu thing :)
[18:09] <t38> apb1963:  how's that VOIP working?
[18:10] <Vivekananda> trism: https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/7281753
[18:10] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, 'mount loop'?
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: it should slow failrly quickly. depends on if your cpu is generating heat or not
[18:10] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: So I should keep it there for quite some time at the lowest?
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> drgrov you shjould have noticed somethign by now... any difference?
[18:11] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, learning something new every time that I read your stuff
[18:11] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: No, I already switched it to "powersave". No difference.
[18:11] <apb1963> then the system froze completely and even the keyboard didn't respond anymore... no numlock or capslock, mouse was frozen....  oh and... I use a clock as my screen saver... when I first looked at the screen this morning the clock was frozen... so now it returned to that screen all by itself and was totally locked.... that's when I did my power out/reboot.
[18:12] <apb1963> so to me, it kind of looks like it might be X related... I didn't have these problems until I installed kde desktop
[18:12] <apb1963> but then, DBUS is and/or was broken which we all know, right?
[18:12] <apb1963> t38:  that works fine, thanks for asking
[18:12] <kostkon> apb1963, or something kde related then
[18:13] <apb1963> t38: unfortunately... as you notice... I have other problems :(
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: might be an idea to get a new cpufan so then. might be an idea to have a look at lm-sensors to make sure the temps are ok: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto    but i'm presuming that the cpu fan is just too noisy
[18:13] <apb1963> kostkon: like DBUS?
[18:13] <kostkon> apb1963, dbus is DE agnostic
[18:13] <kostkon> apb1963, some kde process/app
[18:13] <kostkon> maybe
[18:14] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: I hope so. I bought it yesterday this machine, completely built from scratch. The guy building has a 30 years experience with computers.
[18:14] <kostkon> apb1963, i know for example that akonadi was causing problems in the past, for example
[18:14] <apb1963> kostkon: well, everytime I reboot the network fails to completely start
[18:14] <trism> Vivekananda: it looks fine, so you sourced the bashrc first? or started a new shell
[18:14] <Guest48141> y'all I have a Seagate Hard Drive and while it shows up in disk utility it will not let me mount with the message "daemon is inhibited" what does that mean?
[18:14] <ozberk> guys I installed chromium and it sloved a lot of problem but still thre is one little thing I can't login to chromim
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> the fan that came with the processor might not be intended for workstation use considering that its a xeon processor. so hopefully swapping that out should be ok
[18:15] <ozberk> it refreshes the page :S
[18:15] <apb1963> kostkon: I do have akonadi running yes
[18:15] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, that is feasible if I find the space in the drive. The drive currenly backs up an Windows XP drive
[18:15] <domann> hello
[18:15] <zero_coder> domann, hi
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> intrader:  boot the live cd and come back to us then. i'll give you the dd instructions then
[18:16] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, otherwise, I need to create a new backup that contains the tomboy files and all the rest I need to save
[18:16] <Vivekananda> trism: I changed bashrc and restarted it
[18:16] <apb1963> kostkon: so how do I get this fixed?
[18:17] <ozberk> anyone who now how can I login to chromium :S
[18:17] <pfifo> ozberk: you need a google id or gmail or youtube account to login to chromium
[18:17] <ozberk> pfifo
[18:17] <ozberk> I have to pm
[18:17] <Vivekananda> then went to Home/ and tried to execute the startup but I guess I am doing the startup thing wrong. dont I need --- sh $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh  instead of just  $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh ?
[18:17] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, first find the room in the drive... then I have a business lunch and I will be back at about 3PM CA time. THanks for your help and knowledge
[18:17] <kostkon> apb1963, you'll have to find out which proc is hogging your cpu, using tools e.g. like htop
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: np
[18:18] <pfifo> ok i guess
[18:18] <trism> Vivekananda: the problem seems to be that CATALINA_HOME isn't set, based on the error message you get
[18:18] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: How expensive would fans like this be then for a Xeon?
[18:18] <ljunggren> how do i know what driver im using right now? gpu i mean
[18:19] <trism> Vivekananda: try: . ~/.bashrc; then run: echo $CATALINA_HOME;
[18:19] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: I wonder if I could even ask them to switch it for free since I paid much for the machine?
[18:19] <apb1963> kostcon: luckily I was able to open a virtual terminal briefly (you know, with function keys). during that brief time I was able to start TOP... and see the load climb to over 30  everytime I killed a process that was hogging the CPU, a different process would hog the CPU until I killed it. first I killed skype... then chrome.... then Libreoffice (soffice.bin)... the load kept climbing. then the system froze completely and even the keyboard didn't respond
[18:19] <apb1963> anymore... no numlock or capslock, mouse was frozen....  oh and... I use a clock as my screen saver... when I first looked at the screen this morning the clock was frozen... so now it returned to that screen all by itself and was totally locked.... that's when I did my power out/reboot.
[18:19] <apb1963> so to me, it kind of looks like it might be X related... I didn't have these problems until I installed kde desktop
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: not very. just look for a silent one with a decent brand
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: it's alway worth a try
[18:20] <Linuxlou> hello
[18:20] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Can I change it even by myself?
[18:20] <semajnad> wafflejock: hey are you there?
[18:20] <Radkos> I've tried to configure ubuntu 12.04 to sleep after a period of time I set (5 min. etc.) but from System settings > Power didn't get to sleep, however trying to schedule with cron didn't make it too. Running it manually are making a miracle or closing a lid too but how can I schedule that task. Is there known problem with a cron (I've tried with reinstall too, reinstall the whole system didn't help as well since from live session it's working). user's setting
[18:20] <Radkos> s isn't the reason, so what may be the reason? can you help me with that? Note: this laptop isn't available to me by now so if you can just navigate me with a solution(s) I can try it later
[18:21] <semajnad> Anyone here able to give me a hand with file permissions?
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: its easy enough to change. just have to be careful that you turn the catches the right way and that it locks in propperly when you swap in the new one.
[18:21] <semajnad> I'm getting an access denied error.
[18:21] <OmegaVII> w
[18:21] <apb1963> semajnad: Provide more info.
[18:21] <killmachine> hi
[18:21] <dreamy_> have i got voice?
[18:22] <Vivekananda> trism: trying now!
[18:22] <Doink> ¿ ʇᴉ xᴉɟ ᴉ op ʍoɥ uʍop ǝpᴉsdn sᴉ ʇxǝʇ ʎɯ llɐ puɐ nʇunqn pǝllɐʇsuᴉ ʇsnɾ ᴉ ǝuoʎɹǝʌǝ ᴉH
[18:22] <apb1963> so now I'm running MINT
[18:22] <kostkon> dreamy_, ?
[18:22] <apb1963> Doink: hahah... cool  can't read it... but cool
[18:22] <Radkos> :D \
[18:22] <Radkos> Doink how i can configure that :D
[18:22] <Radkos> awesome
[18:23] <semajnad> apb1963:  I have a user called admn001 and a user called net001. Net001's home directory is called net001 and I need admn001 to have read right and execute permissions to it.
[18:23] <Doink> dn pǝssǝɯ llɐ sʇᴉ snɔ ɔd ʎɯ ǝsn ʇuɐɔ ᴉ snoᴉɹǝs ɯᴉ oN
[18:23] <kostkon> Doink, hmmm
[18:23] <Jeakle> apb1963: Doink's text is upside down.
[18:23] <kostkon> Doink, dont believe you
[18:23] <Radkos> did you saw that issue from live session or it was different
[18:23] <semajnad> apb1963: I've put them both in a group called 001, then given net001's home directory permission of 770. I thought this would work as they are both in the same group, but when I CD net001 it says permission denied.
[18:23] <apb1963> Jeakle: Yes, I see that
[18:23] <Doink>  ʇnʍ ʇᴉɐʍ
[18:24] <bekks> apb1963: So you are running Mint currently?
[18:24] <dreamy_> im running an unsuported version of ubuntu, can i install software?
[18:24] <Random832> apb1963: he's using unicode characters from exotic sections of the Latin Ext B and IPA Extension sections to simulate upside-down writing.
[18:24] <bekks> Doink: Stop it please.
[18:24] <Radkos> yes you can
[18:24] <Ziber> Everytime I run apt-get, I encounter issues with my mysql server, leading me to reinstall it. There has to be some fix for this, right? http://pastebin.com/Dwu8WpDg
[18:24] <apb1963> semajnad: chgrp 001 <files>
[18:24] <Vivekananda> trism: thanks that got it to work. Can see my homepage now
[18:24] <apb1963> Random832: Interesting... I've never seen those characters
[18:25] <apb1963> bekks: Yes I am
[18:25] <Radkos> so can someone help me with my issue
[18:25] <semajnad> apb1963:  will that provide permissions for the admn001 user to execute net001's files?
[18:25] <bekks> apb1963: Then you'd have to ask the mint support about a solution for your issue.
[18:25] <kostkon> Ziber, apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.5
[18:26] <Furai> exit
[18:26] <apb1963> bekks: I was running kde when my system froze,... i'm running mint BECAUSE my system froze, in an attempt to narrow down the problem.
[18:26] <dreamy_> i know that i cant run apt, but maybe i could compile
[18:26] <bekks> !mint | apb1963
[18:26] <apb1963> bekks: stop trying to pass the buck
[18:26] <Ziber> kostkon: http://pastebin.com/71imvWTn
[18:26] <semajnad> apb1963: I'm not sure I understand...
[18:27] <bekks> apb1963: I just informed you about the fact to not expect any help in here.
[18:27] <apb1963> semajnad: if you do an ls -l you'll see that the files have both an owner and a group
[18:27] <apb1963> bekks: I didn't ask for help with mint.  stop talking.
[18:28] <semajnad> apb1963: So do I needd to set the files group to the group that admn001 and net001 are in?
[18:28] <bekks> apb1963: You arent the person to tell me when I have to stop talking. Another thing you should realize. And for not getting annoyed by you anymore: ignore set.
[18:28] <kostkon> Ziber, the simplest thing you could try is to clear your cache, and try to apply the update again i.e.  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:28] <apb1963> semajnad: in some way shape or form, they all have to be in sync
[18:28] <zero_coder> hello
[18:28] <apb1963> yay
[18:28] <krz> what yall use instead of skype?
[18:28] <zero_coder> my os is getting unresponsive at times for a couple of seconds
[18:28] <zero_coder> especially firefox
[18:28] <semajnad> apb1963:  Ye i thought setting the directory and subdirectory to 770 would do it but apparently not :P
[18:28] <kostkon> Ziber, without sudo in your case
[18:29] <apb1963> krz: something SIP related
[18:29] <krz> apb1963: be specific
[18:29] <apb1963> krz: I use sflphone and sometimes zoiper
[18:29] <Ziber> kostkon: I think I figured it out for now, but I'll do that if I run into the problem again. Thanks.
[18:29] <apb1963> semajnad: still missing one piece of the puzzle
[18:29] <kostkon> Ziber, ok np
[18:30] <semajnad> apb1963:  so how come when I'm logged in as admn001 and I use chmod 770 -R /home/net001 does it not let me enter net001 anymore on admn001?
[18:30] <ljunggren> is there any difference between downloading and installing gpu drivers from amd website and enable fglrx-updates ?
[18:31] <apb1963> semajnad: I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "enter net001"
[18:31] <semajnad> apb1963:  as In cd to it
[18:32] <Tomfoolery> i'm having some issues with my sound preferences, on my user sound isn't working at all, but if I use guest user the sound is fine. I'm struggling to figure out how to fix it, anyone got any advice?
[18:32] <zero_coder> hello  , can anyone help?
[18:32] <bekks> zero_coder: Depends on your specific issue.
[18:32] <semajnad> apb1963:  Okay so if I'm understanding correctly. Take admn001 and net001 and put them in a group called 001. Then assign the files in net001 to the group 001 and admn001 should then be able to interact with them?
[18:32] <zero_coder> bekks : applications are freezing at tikmes
[18:32] <zero_coder> times*
[18:33] <apb1963> semajnad: yes
[18:33] <zero_coder> bekks : especially firefox
[18:33] <bekks> zero_coder: Does it happen on sites using flash only?
[18:33] <zero_coder> bekks : nope.
[18:33] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, open your home folder, press ctrl+h, delete the .pulse folder, log out, log back in and then try to configure your sound again in the sound settings
[18:34] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, ok cheers, let me give that a go
[18:34] <zero_coder> bekks, besides most of the applications are also facing the same problem , but its less frequent , and for a shorter time only
[18:34] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, It seems I don't have a .pulse folder
[18:34] <semajnad> apb1963:  Thank you very much for your help, I'll give that try.
[18:35] <apb1963> semajnad: sure
[18:35] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, using ubuntu or some other flavour?
[18:35] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, ubuntu
[18:35] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, hmm, did you press ctrl+h or select edit -> view hidden files from the menu?
[18:36] <Tomfoolery> It brought up my hidden folders
[18:36] <krz> what mouseless games are good these days? i like realm of the mad god, before it sold out to kabam
[18:36] <krz> any others?
[18:36] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, yeah. Try opening the sound settings
[18:37] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, k, they're open
[18:37] <zero_coder> bekks ??
[18:37] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, do you see any devices listed there
[18:38] <semajnad> apb1963:
[18:38] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, my output can either me digital output or headphones, is that what you mean?
[18:38] <semajnad> apb1963: Sorry, when I do that, then I jail the user to the directory /home/net001/001 it then doesn't let me log into ftp
[18:38] <semajnad> apb1963:  do you know why this might be>?
[18:39] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, yeah ok
[18:39] <krz> well?
[18:40] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, try every possible configuration, try every device, port, etc and see if that will change anything
[18:40] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, already done before hand sadly. It's only with this user I have the problem with. Guest user has no problems
[18:41] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, you aren't logged in as root, are you?
[18:41] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, no
[18:41] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, ok
[18:41] <sedeki> where is xorg.conf on ubuntu 13.10?
[18:41] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, maybe pastebin:  lsb_release -a  and   ps -A | grep pulse
[18:41] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, I found some solutions on the ubuntu forums but I'm really really bad at understanding how to use terminal and that's what the solutions utilise
[18:42] <Tomfoolery> ok
[18:42] <zykotick9> sedeki: not used/created by default.
[18:42] <sedeki> zykotick9, what's in /usr/share/X11/corg.conf.d?
[18:42] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, actually i find it strange that you don't have a .pulse folder
[18:43] <zykotick9> sedeki: asking me is useless ;)  i doubt there is anything there by default either?!
[18:43] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, well, I've never deleted any of my hidden folders or even looked at them before
[18:43] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, but yeah you could try checking your volume levels and state of your switches in alsamixer. open a terminal and give: alsamixer
[18:44] <apb1963> semajnad: What is it yo're trying to accomplish?  What is your end goal?
[18:45] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, press F5 to view everything, also F6 to view all the available devices you can configure
[18:45] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, I'm not familiar with what it's meant to look like. All the numbers are "00" should I manually change them to fix it?
[18:45] <zykotick9> sedeki: sorry, perhaps i misunderstood - i thought you where asking what is in my xorg.conf.d directory (i'm not on ubuntu, thus my useless reply).  xorg.conf.d is used for "snippets" to config Xorg (it's the modern replacement for xorg.conf)
[18:46] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, press left right arrows to go through them, then the up down arrows to chage the levels, yeah 00 is bad, try increasing it
[18:47] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, depends of the volume, if it is an volume level for an output channel try increasing to 100
[18:47] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, oh ok, my bad,  maste ris actually at 100
[18:47] <kostkon> type of*
[18:47] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, check all the channels
[18:48] <Tomfoolery> "headphone" does have a number and won't allow me to change it
[18:48] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, hmm
[18:49] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, This will be the problem. Because I play my music through my speakers, which is what I'm assuming it means by headphones
[18:49] <Tomfoolery> I disabled the master manually in the tower
[18:49] <semajnad> apb1963: This pastie should explain at the top what i want to achieve, and the commands I've used to achieve it. If you wouldn't mind taking a look and telling where I go wrong I'd be very grateful.http://pastie.org/8450765
[18:49] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, what have you done exactly
[18:50] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, oh I did this when I first built my computer. I couldn't turn off sound coming fromt he tower so I just unplugged it because I wanted to use my speakers
[18:50] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, so the tower speaker isn't connected to anything
[18:50] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, you mean the pc speaker?
[18:51] <Tomfoolery> Yes
[18:51] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, oh ok. that isn't considered a audio device nowadays
[18:51] <Tomfoolery> oh ok then, so master could still be referring to my speakers?
[18:51] <Tomfoolery> hmm
[18:52] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, yes. master volume
[18:52] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, sorry for my lack of knowledge. My dad installed ubuntu for me, I'm not exactly... computer savvy
[18:53] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, np
[18:54] <semajnad> apb1963: Hopefully that makes sense :P
[18:55] <anonymous> f
[18:55] <bootloop_> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and whenever I hit shutdown my system reboots.  I cannot get it to power off.  Wat do?
[18:57] <adamu> bootloop does 'sudo shutdown -h now' work?
[18:58] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, ok, I found a fix here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143157 (second to last answer) that people agree works, but I don't have that file/directory when I type all of that in... am I being dense?
[18:58] <krz> assuming ive got all my applications closed. is there a "safe" way to shut down in the terminal without having to use the mouse to shutdown via the menu on the top right?
[18:58] <pfifo> krz 'exit' or ctrl+d
[18:58] <pfifo> krz: n/m read that wrong
[18:59] <apb1963> krz: shutdown -h now is what I use... or -r to reboot
[18:59] <pfifo> krz: i always shutdown my system from the command line, i use 'sudo init 0'
[18:59] <apb1963> semajnad: makes my head hurt
[18:59] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, when you type sudo cat /etc/default/speech-dispatcher ?
[18:59] <semajnad> apb1963:  Does the idea make sense?
[18:59] <krz> so sudo shutdown -h is fine?
[18:59] <semajnad> apb1963: Or is there a better way to do it.
[18:59] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, yes, that
[19:00] <apb1963> krz: "shutdown -h now" if you don't want to give any warnings... i.e. no other users
[19:00] <semajnad> apb1963: Basically, very simply I need net001 to be able to run MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 somehow, while not having access to command line. But also net001 needs to be locked to his home directory in FTP which is /home/net001
[19:00] <krz> what is -h?
[19:00] <adamu> krz:   -h     Halt or power off after shutdown. (man shutdown)
[19:01] <Doink> -h now
[19:01] <bootloop_> adamu: it shuts me down but the system still auto-reboots
[19:01] <apb1963> semajnad: When you talk about locking to directories, chroot comes to mind... apparently there's some kind of newfangled jk_jailuser and other associated commands none of which I've ever used.
[19:01] <bootloop_> so, it's no different than just hitting the shutdown button in ubuntu
[19:01] <Doink> bios settings
[19:02] <Doink> you have a bios setting that
[19:02] <adamu> bootloop: do you have multiple operating systems installed does this happen with other ones maybe it is something in the bios
[19:02] <Doink> reboots on power back
[19:02] <krz> kk so sudo shutdown -h now is safe ya?
[19:02] <semajnad> apb1963:  I did look into chroot, but in the end this method seemed to work, just not when I put them other user in the picture. I've found a way to lock them to the directory, but the problem is the login details for FTP still let them log into something like Putty. Can you think of a way around this?
[19:02] <bootloop_> adamu: no, this is a brand new system I just put together about an hour ago.  No other operating systems besides Ubuntu 13.10
[19:02] <bekks> Doink: There is no such bios setting, since that would make it impossible to power off a computer.
[19:02] <krz> just the same way as doing it from the menu on the to right?
[19:02] <semajnad> apb1963:  I just can't have the FTP user getting command line access.
[19:02] <Doink> omg
[19:03] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, actually, do the cmd: ps -ef | grep pulseaudio  give you 3 lines of output?  when changing users do you log out first or you just use the menu in the upper right to select users
[19:03] <Doink> i have in my bios
[19:03] <pfifo> semajnad: you could set his shell to /bin/false
[19:03] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, does the command*
[19:03] <delinquentme> has anyone gotten ubuntu 12.04 up and running installed on a lenovo IdeaPad ?
[19:03] <semajnad> pfifo:  That's true, the only issue is that I need to run a executable in his home directory
[19:04] <semajnad> pfifo: So don';t I need command line access to do that? Or can you do it some other way?
[19:04] <bootloop_> adamu: any other ideas?
[19:04] <adamu> bootloop: I would check in the bios then
[19:04] <delinquentme> I keep having these silly startup issues on this lenovo  Y510P
[19:04] <pfifo> semajnad: how is he running it now if he dosent have command line?
[19:04] <bootloop_> adamu: what should I be looking for?
[19:05] <Doink> bootloop_, cycle power and enter bios, search for power on boot / reboot after power fail ,, something like this
[19:05] <Doink> chage it to not boot after power off on
[19:05] <adamu> bootloop: as Doink said look for power on after power fail
[19:05] <semajnad> pfifo: This is all just theory at the moment I'm trying to work out how to do this before I hand it over to him. Theres an executable in net001's home directory that i need to run, without letting net001 have SSH access
[19:05] <usuario> hola
[19:05] <apb1963> semajnad: personally I don't see a way to avoid giving the user command line access unless he's running a restricted shell.  Maybe someone else can think of something.
[19:06] <apb1963> semajnad: If you just want to restrict ssh access, that's different from not giving him command line access.
[19:06] <pfifo> semajnad: so how are you proposing to get the file to run?
[19:06] <Doink> page 3 on dells
[19:06] <semajnad> pfifo: That's my issue. apb1963 Can you stop a user using ANY commands except 1?
[19:07] <apb1963> semajnad: If I only needed to run one command, I would probably make that command his shell.
[19:07] <semajnad> apb1963: All I need them to be able to do is ./MCMA2_x86_64
[19:07] <eer> Is there an upper limit of RAM for Ubuntu? I mean is the more the better or is there a limit where it doesn make sense to add more RAM.
[19:07] <semajnad> apb1963: His shell?>
[19:07] <semajnad> apb1963: This sounds promising :P What does that mean?
[19:07] <bootloop_> Doink:  I figured it out.
[19:07] <bootloop_> Doink:  it was a setting called "Wake on LAN"
[19:07] <Doink> cool
[19:07] <pfifo> semajnad: why dont you just run it for him, it is a server after all, you could start it from rc.local or something
[19:07] <Doink> yer that will do it
[19:08] <Doink> lol
[19:08] <bootloop_> Thanks for the help Doink  and adamu
[19:08] <bootloop_> I appreciate it
[19:08] <semajnad> pfifo: That's true, but whenever i've given another user permission to read/write/execute his files, it stops his FTP access for some reason :/
[19:08] <Doink> yw
[19:08] <apb1963> semajnad: yah.  Instead of /bin/false or /bin/ksh or whatever, just change his shell to /home/user/MCMA2 whatever
[19:08] <adamu> bootloop: np
[19:08] <semajnad> apb1963: So what would that do exactly?
[19:08] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, It give me 4 lines and I use the menu
[19:08] <apb1963> semajnad: but I'm not sure what that would do to ftp access
[19:08] <lukodiablo> guys... where i can find mac80211 driver for usb 8812au ( sitecom WLA 7100 )
[19:09] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, hmm could you paste it on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:09] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, There's a special way to copy things from terminal right?
[19:09] <apb1963> semajnad: because now you've restricted to that one program... running ftp...  I think that requires a normal shell of some type
[19:09] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, select the text with your mouse, right click and select copy
[19:09] <pfifo> semajnad: setting his shell to it would require him to be looged in iver ssh constantly
[19:10] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6348688/
[19:10] <semajnad> pfifo: Can I set a users home directory to a folder in someone elses home directory?
[19:10] <Doink> !buddha
[19:10] <Doink> The Buddha once said. "A wise man knows nothing and talks little about it."
[19:10] <apb1963> semajnad: the shell is just a program that runs.. ksh, csh, tcsh, sh, bash... .... change that program - the shell - to the program you want.
[19:10] <pfifo> semajnad: no not a good idea
[19:11] <Doink> infinite loops
[19:11] <pfifo> apb1963: how do you keep the program running upon logout though? mcma is server software
[19:11] <PhonicUK> pfifo, using screen
[19:11] <semajnad> apb1963: pfifo I'm really stuck on how to do this haha can another use be allwoed to run an executable in another users home directory?
[19:12] <apb1963> pfifo: oh, I didn't know that was a requirement.  the requirements keep changing.
[19:12] <semajnad>  Hey PhonicUK  :P This is whith MCMA. I'm stumped ;)
[19:12] <pfifo> PhonicUK: how do you run screen without giving shell access?
[19:12] <PhonicUK> eh?
[19:12] <PhonicUK> how are you starting it in the first place?
[19:13] <apb1963> semajnad:  of course... but you're asking for more than that apparently.
[19:13] <semajnad> PhonicUK: Right, basically. I'm setting up a server for someone. They need to have FTP access to the folder with MCMA in. So they can upload files. But I don't want them having command line access. So I need a way to run MCMA installed in this other users home directory, if that makes sense.
[19:13] <PhonicUK> right, so what's the problem?
[19:13] <pfifo> semajnad: I would make an initscript to start mcma
[19:14] <mal10c> anyone know how to use ubuntu nautilus to browse files on iphone via bluetooth?
[19:14] <PhonicUK> semajnad, use the users crontab
[19:14] <PhonicUK> semajnad, http://wiki.phonicuk.com/Start-McMyAdmin-automatically-on-server-boot-Linux.ashx
[19:15] <semajnad> PhonicUK:  Does that mean I can block the users SSH access with usermod net001 -s /bin/false but still run MCMA automatically?
[19:15] <PhonicUK> yes
[19:15] <semajnad> PhonicUK:  If this works, I'll love you forever. Let me go off and try it ;)
[19:17] <eer> Is there an upper limit of RAM for Ubuntu? I mean is the more the better or is there a limit where it doesn't make sense to add more RAM?
[19:18] <bekks> eer: Technically, its somewhere in the region of 16EB or something.
[19:18] <PhonicUK> lol
[19:19] <pfifo> whats recommended amount of swap with 16eb of ram?
[19:20] <bekks> pfifo: depends on your requirements.
[19:20] <daftykins> pfifo: match it if you want to sleep/hibernate
[19:21] <pfifo> wonder how long it wold take to copy 16eb of ram to swap
[19:21] <apb1963> pfifo: depends on the speed of the disk
[19:22] <PhonicUK> and the speed of the controller, PCI-E bus, CPU...
[19:22] <apb1963> the disk is generally the slowest component
[19:22] <daftykins> ...and the award for most obvious statement go to apb1963!
[19:22] <DrGrov> 13.10, that message type of indicator. What does that actually refer to?
[19:22] <DrGrov> daftykins: Oh oh, can I also participate? I guarantee I have a good answer :)
[19:22] <apb1963> daftykins: thanks!
[19:23] <semajnad> PhonicUK: Okay, question then. Once i've done all that, and I've used the command usermod net001 -s /bin/false to block their access to command line SSH. How can I reverse that. Do you know?
[19:23] <pfifo> a 16eb external usb thumbdrive
[19:23] <semajnad> apb1963: same as above if you know please pfifo
[19:23] <PhonicUK> semajnad, replace /bin/false with /bin/bash
[19:23] <daftykins> DrGrov: there was only one award :( time taken being linked to speed was the winner already ;)
[19:23] <semajnad> PhonicUK: Excellent, thank you.
[19:23] <eer> Will Ubuntu perform better with 64GB RAM than with 32GB ?
[19:24] <DrGrov> daftykins: Daaamn yoooou... :( Well, let me know when you got another award coming up. I seldomly win anything :/
[19:24] <PhonicUK> eer, depends what you're doing
[19:24] <eer> PhonicUK, web surfing
[19:24] <PhonicUK> no.
[19:24] <DrGrov> eer: Definitely 64GB then.
[19:24] <PhonicUK> lol
[19:24] <eer> :P
[19:24] <DrGrov> eer: Without a question. Make it 128GB x 8 just to be sure
[19:24] <pfifo> eer: are you running out of memory?
[19:24] <PhonicUK> maybe if you were editing 4K video it would
[19:25] <DrGrov> eer: I just realized that I really did not need a Xeon processor, a i5/i7 would have been sufficient. But I still bought it. So, if you ask me. 64GB FTW! :)
[19:26] <eer> No, seriously. I want to run a few virtualbox instances, do web surfing, some web development, watch videos
[19:26] <pfifo> eer: you might get better performance by installing faster ram
[19:26] <DrGrov> eer: How fast is your RAM if I may ask, DDR3 I presume?
[19:27] <eer> Would 32GB suffice or should I go for a motherboard that supports 64GB?
[19:27] <delinquentme_> how do I get the lucid package version of this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libjpeg8
[19:27] <DrGrov> eer: It could be worth while later to have the option to upgrade to 64GB if you deem it necessary at a later stage.
[19:27] <pfifo> eer: having lots of ram helps out when running virtual machines
[19:28] <DrGrov> eer: pfifo Sorry for disturbing. Carry on.
[19:28]  * DrGrov runs to the forest
[19:28] <lukodiablo> someone knows where i can find driver mac80211 for my wireless RTL 8812au ?
[19:29] <apb1963> so now that there's more people here...  Anyone have any thoughts as to why my system periodically freezes up... or better yet, how to get it fixed?
[19:29] <bob__> does it freeze totaly or just get very slow?
[19:30] <eer> DrGrov, no the thing is that I want to build a new PC and I have some money to spend. I will be installing Ubuntu on it and I am trying to figure out what components I need. I build my last one in 2007.
[19:30] <apb1963> bob__: total freeze
[19:30] <sanspot_> Hoi|
[19:30] <apb1963> apb1963: I had to hard reboot
[19:30] <bob__> apb1963, try to see if you can ssh into it from another computer
[19:30] <bob__> apb1963, sometimes you can still get in that way
[19:30] <sanspot_> Looking for a movie but I'm new to IRC, anyone has an idea of how to do that?
[19:31] <apb1963> bob__: I had to hard reboot... and I don't have another computer currently... plus I've already rebooted it.
[19:31] <DrGrov> eer: Ok. Sorry for getting it wrong then in the beginning.
[19:31] <apb1963> bob__: I managed to open a VT ... ran top... the load  hit 30 when it finally froze completely
[19:31] <pfifo> eer: i would go for fast and expensive ram over cheap and plentiful ram. go with something you can over clock too, you likely will never need 32gb of ram, let alone 64, those amounts are more for servers than desktops
[19:32] <bob__> apb1963, you can try checking /var/log/syslog for signs of trouble
[19:32] <daftykins> sanspot_: what do #ubuntu support channels, movies and IRC have in common? D:
[19:32] <bob__> apb1963, and google what you see
[19:32] <bob__> apb1963, but random crashing is pretty hard to troubleshoot
[19:33] <tdn> Hi. I have just installed 13.10 on a new Dell E6430 laptop with nvidia NVS 5200M graphics. I have tried installing the proprietary drivers using additional drivers program (jockey). However, it does keeps being "Not in use". How do I utilize my Nvidia graphics card in 13.10?
[19:34] <daftykins> tdn: it's probably too old, you might have to stick to the default driver
[19:35] <eer> Does Ubuntu have any issues with SSD disks or can I buy any good one?
[19:35] <OerHeks> eer linux has no issues with SSD, so go ahead
[19:35] <apb1963> bob__: Yeah I know... and I have a variety of problems I've never gotten around to fixing when I added new ones by installing kde desktop
[19:35] <lukodiablo> how or where i can find mac80211 driver for chipset RTL 8812au ????
[19:36] <eer> OerHeks, thx
[19:36] <daftykins> eer: computers work to standards, a different OS won't stop an SSD working
[19:36] <daftykins> lukodiablo: google is your friend
[19:36] <DrGrov> eer: I am running 13.10 with a 120GB Kingston SSD. Works brilliantly.
[19:36] <apb1963> bob__: so there's no telling if the old is affecting the new, or unrelated...  just kind of overwhelmed with all the things I need to fix :/
[19:37] <RipresaTecn> join #sabayon
[19:37] <eer> Are SSD really that much fast than normal disks? Don have one, yet.
[19:37] <RipresaTecn> oops lol
[19:37] <daftykins> eer: if you get a good one you will be shocked
[19:37] <daftykins> your jaw will be sitting on the floor throughout the first hours of use
[19:37] <eer> daftykins, cool.
[19:37] <DrGrov> I did the Kingston 120GB for the Ubuntu 13.10 OS and a 1TB for home.
[19:37] <apb1963> bob__: I'm not sure if I still have dbus issues... sflphone was triggering a bug in dbus and crashing my system... but the developer says he made changes so as not to trigger the bug....   did he get them all?  who knows.
[19:38] <apb1963> bob__: dhcp client is busted...  my network config doesn't come up properly on reboot... blah.
[19:38] <eer> I can not put home on a different spinning drive. Because my entire system is encrypted.
[19:39] <delinquentme_> OK so R code base which is relying on a libjpeg8 for building of the r-base-core ... however I'm on ubunut 10.04 and I'm trying to locate where these packages are being sourced from
[19:39] <lukodiablo> daftykins:  :D yea... i keep my ey on google... but i didnt find nothing about 8812au and mac80211... by the way.. about mac80211 is there a lot... but nothing what can belong to my wireless
[19:39] <apb1963> bob__: nothing terribly obvious in syslog that wasn't there before kde desktop was installed.
[19:39] <tdn> daftykins, you mean a non-nvidia driver? That is horribly slow.
[19:39] <apb1963> bob__: I think it's X and/or dbus
[19:40] <tdn> daftykins, lspci says:         Kernel driver in use: i915
[19:40] <tdn> daftykins, so I think it uses some intel card instead of the nvidia card.
[19:40] <tdn> daftykins, how do I change it?
[19:40] <lukodiablo> daftykins: i am happy that my rt3573sta work in monitor mode... but the 8812au doesnt.. :(
[19:40] <tdn> daftykins, I should be able to use the official nvidia driver from nvidia.com, right?
[19:41] <daftykins> tdn: not if it's an ancient 5200
[19:41] <daftykins> tdn: they might've dropped support
[19:42] <tdn> daftykins, what? Ancient? This is a brand new Dell Latitude.
[19:42] <daftykins> "5200M" 0o
[19:42] <tdn> It appears to be from 09/2012.
[19:42] <daftykins> hang on did you typo 520M...
[19:42] <DrGrov> That little mail box I have in 13.10 sitting in the right corner up on the screen. How can I remove that?
[19:43] <hkan> hello, i have a serious problem with my graphics card driver on ubuntu, and I couldnt find anything that solves my problem on internet
[19:43] <pfifo> DrGrov: just put a piece of duct tape over it
[19:43] <hkan> I have a vaio which has this optimus thing
[19:43] <Shinobi> I have a link that shows perms 777 but the target has perms 700 is that normal?
[19:43] <hkan> I tried to turn back to default drivers of ubuntu but i blowed it
[19:44] <DrGrov> pfifo: No but seriously, I want to get rid of it. I do not use any of those instant messaging/e-mail stuff that it would show me.
[19:44] <ripthejacker> has anyone installed f.lux on Ubuntu 13.10?
[19:45] <pfifo> DrGrov: I remember removing all the stuff I didnt want by right clicking them and adjusting the settings or preferences, but im not running my 13.10 install right now so cant say exactly what todo
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, unity? I can google that for you eh.
[19:45] <ripthejacker> How do I install f.lux on Ubuntu 13.10
[19:46] <DrGrov> pfifo: No worries. I thought it could be done somehow. Googling as we speak for an answer.
[19:46] <PDilyard> is 30 GB enough for an ubuntu partition that i use for web development only?
[19:46] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Yes, I am using the power of Google to find the solution. It is just mostly old posts thus far, eventually I will find an answer. Just thought I would ask around here, could be faster sometimes.
[19:47] <thnee> JacksonIsaac: Installation or the menu applet doesnt work well. I just run it from my .xinitrc
[19:47] <auronandace> PDilyard: sounds plenty
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Unity desktop?
[19:47] <thnee> ripthejacker: ^^
[19:47] <PDilyard> auronandace, thank you
[19:47] <jediael> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[19:47] <pfifo> ripthejacker: they have instructions it seems http://justgetflux.com/linux.html
[19:47] <ripthejacker> thnee: ?
[19:48] <thnee> ripthejacker: Installation or the menu applet doesnt work well. I just run it from my .xinitrc
[19:48] <ripthejacker> pfifo: not for 13.10
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Generally the help is attached to details, you said 13.10 this the unity desktop. ;)
[19:48] <tdn> daftykins, it appears that I have two graphics cards installed. It is using the wrong one. I might need something called bumblebeed(?) to make it work...
[19:48] <ripthejacker> pfifo: I get an error Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages
[19:48] <daftykins> tdn: yeah sounds like you have an nvidia optimus setup. good luck!
[19:48] <daftykins> !optimus
[19:49] <daftykins> ubottu you are useless on this matter
[19:49] <ripthejacker> thnee: the command line version?
[19:49] <hkan> My problem is written here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6348877/
[19:49] <thnee> ripthejacker: sure..
[19:49] <jediael> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[19:50] <thnee> ripthejacker: you could also try redshift
[19:50] <ripthejacker> thnee:  https://justgetflux.com/linux/xflux.tgz or https://justgetflux.com/linux/xflux-pre.tgz?
[19:50] <ripthejacker> thnee: have you tried both?
[19:50] <thnee> ripthejacker: I'm terribly sorry but I don't know the actual URLs from the top of my head
[19:50] <ripthejacker> one is dated 2009 and the other dated 2013
[19:51] <yeyeman> good morning #ubuntu
[19:52] <thnee> yeyeman: it's 9 PM :P
[19:52] <eer> Is it possible to put an encrypted Ubuntu LVM over a hardware RAID?
[19:52] <pfifo> eer: yes
[19:53] <yeyeman> thnee: yep that's right
[19:53] <semajnad> PhonicUK: I've done what you've said, and it's great, however when I CHROOT the user to a directory it won't let them log into FTP, I must be doing something wrong, can you take a look at this: https://bensmann.no/restrict-sftp-users-to-home-folder/ but I changed GROUP in the first part to USER and then skipped the two seconds about groups.
[19:53] <semajnad> PhonicUK: Sorry also meant to say yes MCMA is starting up on restart :D
[19:54] <eer> pfifo, What I want to do is the following. I will buy a brand new PC and I am trying to figure out what hw to buy. I want a fully encrypted Ubuntu (except for boot). This should run on a hardware fail safe RAID. Do all of the hard disks then have to be SSD?
[19:54] <PhonicUK> not right now sorry
[19:55] <pfifo> eer: no you can mix and match SSD and HDD on a raid, if you get a good controller it will take advantage of this too
[19:55] <zero_coder> hello , my cpu core temprature > 60 degree Celcius
[19:55] <zero_coder> what can i do about it?
[19:56] <pfifo> eer: the raidarray (if its truly a hardraid and not a softraid or fakeraid) should appear to ubuntu as a single drive that you can then use normal LVM on
[19:56] <semajnad> Who knows a good way to lock someone to a directory in FTP, I've got a user called mcsn01 and I want them to not being able to go any higher then /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin/Minecraft
[19:56] <bekks> zero_coder: clean the fans and coolers.
[19:56] <zero_coder> bekks : will that be reason , for freezing?
[19:56] <eer> pfifo, So I have to buy a RAID controller or is that usually on the motherboard? How do I install Ubuntu on this? Never did a RAID install.
[19:56] <zero_coder> and slowing down?
[19:57] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: what was your highest temp?
[19:57] <bekks> zero_coder: it may be.
[19:57] <zero_coder> liahimcociuba12, higest temp?
[19:57] <pfifo> eer: if its built into the motherboard than it is a fakeraid. a realraid controller should cost 300-500+ USD
[19:57] <eer> pfifo, can you recommend one?
[19:58] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: 60 is not that much
[19:58] <pfifo> eer: i reccommend ZFS over raid now though, you might want ZFS if you want redundancy and encryption
[19:58] <bekks> pfifo: areca or lsi.
[19:58] <pfifo> eer: I reccommend ASUS products
[19:58] <zero_coder> liahimcociuba12, usually my home pc runs at < 40
[19:58] <eer> pfifo, you have a link? Is ZFS a file system?
[19:58] <jediael_> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[19:59] <pfifo> eer: yes its a filesystem, wikipedia has a good article
[19:59] <bekks> eer: I wont use ZFS on linux due to its limitations which still exist.
[19:59] <eer> pfifo, thx
[19:59] <bekks> eer: limitations on non-Solaris.
[19:59] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Yes, it is Unity :)
[19:59] <zero_coder> bekks : can u tell me what ur cpu temp is?
[19:59] <semajnad> Does anyone know if this is meant to work? It doesn't seem to be? https://bensmann.no/restrict-sftp-users-to-home-folder/
[19:59] <bekks> zero_coder: it doesnt matter since I have a different computer.
[20:00] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: check with lm sensors your hardware spec
[20:00] <zero_coder> bekks, but how will i know 60 is too much?
[20:00] <bekks> zero_coder: Because thats quite common.
[20:00] <zero_coder> bekks : okay
[20:01] <jediaelo> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[20:01] <pfifo> semajnad: if you skipped the group part, then its no wonder why it failed
[20:02] <semajnad> pfifo: But I read somewhere you could skip the group part and change the top bit to Match User USERNAME
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Easily done in the gnome shell it's not there and added with extension, the unity desktop has the top panel hard connected is all, probably a config at best will remove it.
[20:02] <jediael09123> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[20:02] <pfifo> semajnad: then follow the instructions that gave you that information
[20:03] <lukodiablo> daftykins: the driver mac80211 is supported for 8812au?
[20:03] <zero_coder> bekks , the high is +86 and critical is 100
[20:03] <bekks> zero_coder: 86 is far too much :)
[20:04] <bekks> zero_coder: Just clean your fans and coolers.
[20:04] <semajnad> pfifo: Do you know if that tutorial I sent is mean tto work?
[20:04] <jediael09123> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[20:04] <zero_coder> bekks : its a laptop , i have to dimantle it?
[20:04] <jediael09123> PLEASE HELP
[20:04] <bekks> !patience | jediael09123
[20:05] <pfifo> semajnad: it seems reasonable, restrict users in sftponly group to a chroot jail
[20:05] <zero_coder> bekks,  : what does that high mean?
[20:05] <jediael09123> bekks
[20:05] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: on mý laptop the temp is around 54-65
[20:05] <jediael09123> i try but i seem to be ignored
[20:05] <bekks> zero_coder: High means: a lot, not just a bit, mucho, etc.
[20:05] <zero_coder> liahimcociuba12, what does high mean?
[20:05] <bekks> jediael09123: You waited just ONE minute.
[20:05] <semajnad> pfifo: "If the chroot environment is in a user’s home directory both /home and /home/username must be owned by root and should have permissions along the lines of 755 or 750." Does that mean that /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin/Minecraft - the place where I want them chrooted to, needs to be owned by root?
[20:06] <zero_coder> bekks : okay
[20:07] <pfifo> semajnad: it means all directories upto their home folder need to be owned by root, and their home folder and everything in it can be owned by the user
[20:07] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: usually the pc is shutting down by himself if it reaches high tem
[20:07] <semajnad> pfifo: So in this case /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin is not owned by mcsn01, but the next directory which is called Minecraft where I want them chrooted to needs to be owned by mcsn01?
[20:08] <semajnad> pfifo: /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin all needs to be owned by root?
[20:08] <zero_coder> liahimcociuba12,  but it slows down if temprature is more than what it should be, right?
[20:08] <pfifo> semajnad: /home is owned by root, this applies more to ftp users that need to be jailed to a folder in /var/www which is owned by www-data
[20:08] <pfifo> semajnad: what is their hole folder?
[20:08] <liahimcociuba12> you can clear your laptop with compressed air, just blow in the fan
[20:08] <pfifo> home*
[20:08] <semajnad> pfifo: /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin/Minecraft - that Minecraft folder is where I want them jailed to, don't want them getting any higher then that.
[20:09] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: yep
[20:09] <jediael09123> anyone ?
[20:09] <pfifo> semajnad: then yes, /home /home/mcsn01 and /home/mscn01/McMyAdmin must all be owned by root
[20:10] <semajnad> pfifo: And how do I make that ownership?
[20:10] <bekks> semajnad: chown
[20:10] <vov_> with chown
[20:10] <pfifo> !chown | semajnad
[20:10] <semajnad> pfifo: Awesome, thanks.
[20:11] <semajnad> pfifo: So is that the reason why it's not letting me log into FTP? That all those are owned by the person meant to be CHROOTED?
[20:11] <pfifo> semajnad: I dont know
[20:11] <pfifo> semajnad: if /home is owned by anyone but root you are doing something very wrong
[20:12] <semajnad> pfifo: No it's owned by root :P
[20:12] <semajnad> pfifo:  I get this on filezilla Error:	Network error: Software caused connection abort Error:	Could not connect to server when trying to connect with mcsn01
[20:12] <bekks> semajnad: What are the permissions and ownerships of the thre mentioned directories?
[20:13] <pfifo> semajnad: semajnad pastebin the output of 'id mcsn01'
[20:14] <semajnad> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/EmZCDWLv
[20:14] <semajnad> bekks: /home/mcsn01 and /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin are owned by root and set to 750
[20:14] <semajnad> bekks: /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin/Minecraft is owned by mcsn01 and is meant to be where they are jailed to in FTP
[20:15] <pfifo> semajnad: what is mcsn01's home folder?
[20:15] <semajnad> I believe it is /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin/Minecraft
[20:15] <Kid_Matthew> i get an error when trying to make files for a game called sauerbraten make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[20:16] <pfifo> semajnad: why isnt it /home/mcsn01
[20:16] <semajnad> pfifo: Because I thought to CROOT them to the Minecraft folder that had to be their home directory?
[20:16] <bekks> Kid_Matthew: then contact the sauerbraten support :)
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> Kid_Matthew: don't make clean then ... just make
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> Kid_Matthew: Was the command you used just make or make clean?
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> Kid_Matthew: You should conclude that this package may not be very well built if it lacks make clean.
[20:17] <pfifo> semajnad: changing that persons home folder is definatly NOT the way to go
[20:17] <Kid_Matthew> i just used make clean
[20:17] <semajnad> pfifo: Oh right okay, I'll change it back to /home/mcsn01
[20:17] <Kid_Matthew> using these instructions http://cube.wikispaces.com/Building+and+Compiling
[20:17] <pfifo> semajnad: it will start putting dotfiles in the minecraft folder
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> Kid_Matthew: Consider what might happen if this package breaks something, how will you remove all of it?
[20:18] <Kid_Matthew> what do you mean?
[20:18] <pfifo> semajnad: use a ftp daemon that supports jailing users to any arbrity folder
[20:18] <pfifo> arbatrary
[20:18] <semajnad> pfifo: Can you suggest any?
[20:18] <pfifo> arbitary
[20:18] <jpds> semajnad: sftpd.
[20:18] <bekks> semajnad: vsftpd
[20:18] <pfifo> semajnad: no
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> Kid_Matthew: Before you install it, have a look at what it's going to do, and figure out how you can remove it if it causes problems.  (Rather than figuring it out _after_ it causes problems.)
[20:18] <pfifo> ask bestbot
[20:19] <jhutchins_wk> Kid_Matthew: There should be a README file included, and possibly an INSTALL file, you should read those before you run make.
[20:19] <semajnad> bekks: The problem is, when I bought this server, it came pre-installed with a FTP server even though they said it didnt, how can I make sure it's using VSFTPD instead?
[20:19] <pfifo> semajnad: openssh's sftp isnt a ftpd
[20:19] <bekks> semajnad: uninstall all other ftp servers, install vsftpd.
[20:20] <semajnad> bekks: Is there any easy way to see what ftp servers you have installed?
[20:20] <reisio> but openssh's sshd is, technically
[20:20] <bekks> semajnad: use your package manager
[20:20]  * pfifo goes to smoke
[20:20] <semajnad> bekks:  I don't know how :/ sorry not being very helpful here.
[20:21] <semajnad> bekks: I thought this would be easier to do haha, been at it all day :P
[20:21] <semajnad> bekks:  I did install vsftpd but I think it must still be using the old one.
[20:22] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: There is a lot of great documentation on the ubuntu websites, including a wiki.
[20:22] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: For a server, it's best not to rely on a GUI, but learn console management commands.,
[20:22] <semajnad> jhutchins_wk: I am, haven't even touched a GUI
[20:23] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: To see what software is installed, you can use dpkg -l <string> to search for packages that begin with <string>,
[20:23] <jpds> semajnad: dpkg -l | grep ftp
[20:23] <jhutchins_wk> or dpkg -l | grep <string> to find packages that contain <string>.
[20:23] <semajnad> jpds: jhutchins_wk It says vsftpd and ftp
[20:23] <jpds> semajnad: Cool.
[20:24] <semajnad> jpds: So ftp is listed as "classical file transfer client"
[20:24] <semajnad> say so I can uninstall that?
[20:24] <jpds> semajnad: Yes, that's just a FTP client.
[20:24] <reisio> classical, AKA insecure
[20:24] <jpds> reisio: CLIENT.
[20:24] <semajnad> jpds: not a server? before I installed vsftpd I could still connect to ftp :/
[20:24] <reisio> jpds: okay film
[20:24] <ubut22> hello. when i set the screen size of my laptop to 800x600 then i have black boarders on both side of the screen. how to "stretch the screen, so that there are no boarders anymore?
[20:25] <reisio> ubut22: how'd you set it?
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> !xrandr | ubut22
[20:25] <JesperHeads> on ubuntu 12.04 LTS and having trouble using skype...
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: That's just the client, not a server.
[20:25] <semajnad> jhutchins_wk: I don't get how I could connect to FTP before I installed vsftpd then :/
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: vsftpd provides an ftp service.
[20:25] <jpds> sam113101: So you have a client and server installed.
[20:26] <jhutchins_wk> vsftpd probably replaced ftpd.  Or maybe it was already installed.
[20:26] <ubut22> reisio, i set it with the displays tool and tried with randr as well
[20:26] <semajnad> jhutchins_wk: can't even see ftpd on that list
[20:26] <JesperHeads> at first, I thought I didnt have skype installed, so I downloaded a fresh .deb from their website. trying to install it meets with "cannot install 'libqt4-webkit:i386'
[20:27] <JesperHeads> which I have reinstalled...
[20:27] <reisio> JesperHeads: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[20:27] <bekks> semajnad: pastebin the output please
[20:27] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: It wouldn't make sense to have both installed, so if you installed vsftpd, it would have removed any ftp server that was there previously.
[20:27] <JesperHeads> reisio: ty looking
[20:27] <jpds> semajnad: sudo netstat -ltnp | grep 23
[20:27] <bekks> jpds: 22, not 23
[20:27] <jpds> semajnad: Sorry, grep 21.
[20:28] <jpds> bekks: No.
[20:28] <bekks> geez, yes 21.
[20:28] <semajnad> bekks: http://pastie.org/8450938
[20:28] <jpds> semajnad: Oh, so it's been Removed.
[20:29] <jpds> semajnad: Hence the r in rc.
[20:29] <semajnad> jpds: ftpd apparently has if I ever had it.
[20:29] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Okay, I have to switch then to gnome shell apparently. But I still like Unity after being away from Ubuntu for about 6 months or so.
[20:29] <semajnad> jpds: Ok so how can I uninstall whatever I'm using and install vsftpd
[20:29] <JesperHeads> reisio: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[20:29] <JesperHeads> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[20:29] <JesperHeads> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[20:29] <jpds> semajnad: So, sudo apt-get install vsftpd.
[20:29] <JesperHeads> or been moved out of Incoming.
[20:30] <JesperHeads> sry, will use pastebin btw
[20:30] <ubut22> how to stretch 800x600 resolution to native screen resolution. I want to get rid of black borders on both sides.
[20:31] <pfifo> jpds: netstat is old, learn and love ss
[20:31] <semajnad> jpds: http://pastie.org/8450946 all done
[20:31] <jpds> pfifo: Still does the job.
[20:31] <jpds> semajnad: Cool, so done.
[20:31] <semajnad> jpds: Okay, so now I need to learn how to jail someone into a directory, any suggestions on where to start?
[20:32] <jpds> semajnad: Looks easy: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/vsftp-chroot-users-limit-to-only-their-home-directory.html
[20:33] <DrGrov> Is there any potential setbacks when using different themes in 13.10, Unity specifically? Something being messed up, ex. colours or so?
[20:33] <pfifo> semajnad: vsftpd can be setup so that it does NOT use the systems users, and it can also be configured so that the users root is anywhere in the system, I recommend both, and both are documented in the vsftpd manual, you should read through it before asking for help
[20:34] <pfifo> jpds: hes not trying to jail users to their home folder, he wants to jail users to a specific folder elsewhere
[20:34] <jpds> I also recommend putting vsftpd under apparmor.
[20:34] <stblack_> hi anyone know how to enter in #ubuntu-beginners-dev? it's always full
[20:35] <semajnad> jpds: I've done that before but it doesn't seem to work :/ although I did notice my vsftpd.conf is not located in /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf but rather in /etc/vsftpd.conf
[20:35] <reisio> stblack_: not sure anybody's in there anyways
[20:37] <reisio> stblack: /msg chanserv info #ubuntu-beginners-dev, +l 1 means only one person is allowed
[20:38] <pfifo> a closed channel
[20:38] <semajnad> jpds:  Do you know why it's not running haha "service vsftp restart vsftp: unrecognized service"
[20:38] <stblack> thanks reisio
[20:38] <pfifo> i think its vsftpd
[20:39] <semajnad> pfifo: oops thanks
[20:39] <PDilyard> would it be easier for me to create a 30GB partition in windows, and then choose that partition when i run the ubuntu installer from a USB drive?
[20:40] <PDilyard> the installer defaulted to my HDD but i want to install on my SSD
[20:40] <semajnad> pfifo: See even though I follow the tutorial about the CHROOT_LIST_ENABLED and added my name to it, it still lets me go out of my home directory
[20:40] <adamu> If i remember correctly when chrooting sftp users to Minecraft the McMyAdmin directory must be owned by root
[20:40] <pfifo> PDilyard: no, the installer allows for manual partitioning, which saves you the windows step so hence is 'easier' imo
[20:40] <mynameis> police took my phone
[20:40] <mynameis> can they charge me with a crime if they find pirated music on it?
[20:41] <pfifo> mynameis: yes, also this is offtopic
[20:41] <DJones> mynameis: This is Ubuntu support, thats not something we can advise you on
[20:41] <reisio> mynameis: not really, no
[20:41] <mynameis> anyone know of a good suicide method?
[20:41] <reisio> not in the USA, anyways
[20:42] <jpds> So.
[20:42] <PDilyard> pfifo, my SSD (C:\) has 3 partitions (SYSTEM, OS, and RECOVERY). when i run the ubuntu installer, would i just click on the OS partition and click "new table"?
[20:43] <reisio> stblack: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-beginners/2013-August/002541.html
[20:43] <Ben64> PDilyard: "new table" will erase everything
[20:43] <PDilyard> how should i do it then?
[20:43] <Ben64> make a new partition
[20:43] <pfifo> PDilyard: no, that would delete your existing partitions, you might need to use gparted (ion the livecd) to resize a partition to make room for a new one.
[20:43] <PDilyard> ok
[20:44] <JesperHeads> im having serious dependency issues with skype :-\ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6349172/
[20:44] <JesperHeads> typing y installs nothing
[20:44] <JesperHeads> typing n offers to name some 400 packages
[20:44] <JesperHeads> rename*
[20:44] <PDilyard> pfifo, and with gparted, i could also make a partition on my other drive for /home, right?
[20:45] <ubuntu_> can someone help me install ubuntu? i belive my partitions is a mess.. i have one 64gb ssd and one 500gb hdd ( movies and pics) and i want to replace win8 with ubuntu (which is installed on ssd)
[20:45] <pfifo> PDilyard: correct
[20:45] <PDilyard> pfifo, and the installer allows me to choose where /home is?
[20:45] <Geronimo> hi
[20:46] <pfifo> PDilyard: yes, just have to assign a mount point to te partition
[20:46] <JesperHeads> ubuntu_: is your bios uefi?
[20:46] <Geronimo> is openjdk the only available jdk for Ubuntu?
[20:46] <pfifo> Geronimo: no, oracle
[20:46] <PDilyard> pfifo, alright cool. thank you
[20:46] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, no.. but i fear that somehow if i just presss "replace win8 with ubuntu" it will try to install ubuntu on my 500gb hdd"
[20:46] <pfifo> s jdk is available too
[20:46] <lukodiablo> can someone help if my wireless RTL 8812au is supp
[20:47] <lukodiablo> pcan someone help if my wireless RTL 8812au is supported for mac80211 driver ?
[20:47] <JesperHeads> ubuntu_: if it finds win8 on the ssd, im fairly confident it will try to replace it on that drive. I think it will end up giving you an option as well? though I may be mistaken. its been a while since I performed an install.
[20:47] <Geronimo> pfifo: I don't seem to find the oracle package
[20:47] <bradhe> Anyone have any ideas why openjdk-7-jre isn't in apt-cache by default on 13.04 anymore? It suddenly disappeared it seems...
[20:47] <yeats> ubuntu_: is the 500G drive internal or external?
[20:47] <trism> JesperHeads: what is: apt-cache policy libtiff4 libtiff4:i386;
[20:48] <JesperHeads> trism: god if i only knew
[20:48] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, actually win8 made a patition on my 500gb HDD which says "windows 8 loader" and is 387MB .. i have no idea why
[20:48] <rypervenche> What is the name of the Xorg package in Ubuntu?
[20:48] <pfifo> Geronimo: i *think* there is a partner repo for it. but if your intrested in a jdk then your a power user and should just get it direct from oracle
[20:48] <JesperHeads> trism: i think i needed tiff for tesseract
[20:48] <bradhe> I added the PPA ppa:openjdk/ppa, but I get the following when I try to install: http://pastebin.com/16yjBb6x
[20:49] <reisio> rypervenche: xserver-xorg ?
[20:49] <Geronimo> pfifo: ok, thanks. yes, I was thinking there might be another repo for it. I might as well download from oracle directly.
[20:49] <JesperHeads> ubuntu_: win8 bootloader, no?
[20:49] <trism> JesperHeads: I mean, what is the output of the command, I want to know what repositories they are installed from
[20:49] <stblack> reisio: It's a sad news. So I'd like to understand through the wiki the steps to begin dev career....;-)
[20:49] <JesperHeads> trism: ah, k, incoming
[20:50] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, perhaps?
[20:50] <reisio> stblack: for Ubuntu?
[20:50] <pfifo> bradhe: what is the output of 'lsb_release -sa'
[20:50] <reisio> stblack: for Ubuntu?
[20:50] <bradhe> pfifo: lemme check
[20:50] <stblack> reisio : Yes!
[20:51] <JesperHeads> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6349222/
[20:51] <reisio> stblack: /msg ubottu contribute
[20:51] <bradhe> https://gist.github.com/bradhe/b4317e8a695339ef6073
[20:51] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, will it destroy stuff sitting there?
[20:51] <JesperHeads> ubuntu_: im dualbooting ubuntu and win7 with grub. During boot, to load windows the option is "win7 loader". so it would make sense to me
[20:51] <bradhe> pfifo: https://gist.github.com/bradhe/b4317e8a695339ef6073 -- er, maybe I'm NOT on 13.04...I might have the wrong AMI
[20:51] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, oh ok
[20:52] <pfifo> bradhe: your running 10.04 lucid, which is end of life and which is why you can download the dependacies you need
[20:52] <pfifo> why you CANT download..
[20:52] <bradhe> pfifo: Makes sense, thanks for pointing that out...I thought I was on 13.04, but I must have copy-pasta'd the wrong AMI
[20:52] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, will it put grub on my 2nd HDD also ? i just want ubuntu on my ssd..
[20:53] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, should i press "something else" chose my SSD  - format ext4 - use as / and install?
[20:53] <JesperHeads> grub is only offered to be installed if you ask ubuntu to dual boot if i recall correctly
[20:53] <trism> JesperHeads: alright first try: sudo apt-get install libtiff4/precise; if that succeeds you'll probably be able to install skype
[20:53] <JesperHeads> trism: trying now
[20:53] <trism> JesperHeads: it looks like a leftover from some ppa unless you manually installed it
[20:54] <JesperHeads> trism: you wonderful person.
[20:54] <JesperHeads> trism: its at least installing now. will report when I try to launch
[20:54] <JesperHeads> well... donwloading
[20:56] <yeyeman> whats the difference between json and cpickle?
[20:56] <yeyeman> i mean functionally
[20:56] <TJ-> With  "ssh -X host /path/to/executable" the exported window is blank but renders fine on the local host. Where should I start looking for clues to solve this?
[20:56] <JesperHeads> trism: confirmed working. your assistance was greatly appreciated
[20:56] <dogarrhea> ?
[20:56] <yeyeman> people keep telling me not to use cpickle, but I don't see any reason why json is preferable
[20:57] <pfifo> yeyeman: json cant pickle an entire class with functions
[20:57] <dogarrhea> i did a sudo apt-get install gcc and it says i'm up to date.  C++ people say i'm NOT up to date
[20:57] <dogarrhea> what gives?
[20:57] <trism> JesperHeads: excellent
[20:57] <bekks> dogarrhea: you have the latest version from the ubuntu repos installed, which is not necessarily the latest version released.
[20:57] <pfifo> yeyeman: pickels can be modified to contain malicaous data, json not so much
[20:58] <dogarrhea> bekks: how do i get to them
[20:58] <reisio> yeyeman: I'd ask #python about that
[20:58] <bekks> dogarrhea: Why do you need it?
[20:58] <dakotawulfy> when mapping a mouse  are the buttons the same out put on all  of them like i mapped one of the side button on a mouse works on that one but not the other mouse i have hooked up  i used the btnx?
[20:58] <dogarrhea> bekks because 4.4.3 is not sufficient it appears
[20:58] <pfifo> yeyeman: you should never unpickel data that you didnt pickle yourself
[20:58] <dogarrhea> g++ 4.4.3
[20:58] <Geronimo> bye
[20:58] <bekks> dogarrhea: Not sufficient for what?
[20:58] <dogarrhea> compiling <mutex> and <thread>
[20:59] <bekks> dogarrhea: I bet those arent inventions introduced with 4.4.3
[20:59] <pfifo> bekks: lol
[20:59] <dogarrhea> bekks which is why I need a newer compiler...
[21:00] <pfifo> dogarrhea: to get help from gcc people you have to be running the latest version of gcc, but that dosent mean the version your using isnt capable of doing what you want
[21:00] <delinquentme> deactivate sudo su  from the command line without exit or Ctrl+d ???
[21:01] <dogarrhea> pfifo i need c++11
[21:01] <dogarrhea> and 4.4.3 doesn't have it
[21:01] <dogarrhea> no compile support for it
[21:01] <pfifo> dogarrhea: gcc that comes with 13.10 can do c++11, mir is pure c++11
[21:01] <bekks> so thats totally different from asking for mutex and thread.
[21:01] <dogarrhea> it's the same bekks
[21:01] <dogarrhea> go talk to the c++ people
[21:02] <Vivekananda> This is not a ubuntu specific question but related to ubuntu. I have tomcat and I deployed a webapp by putting my .war file inside the webapp/ folder in ubunutu. I remembered that there is aslo a folder called var/www/ on ubuntu where I can put files but have forgotten what it was and how to use it . Can someone tell me the diff between var/www/ and webapp/ folders ?
[21:02] <dogarrhea> mutex and thread depend on c++11
[21:02] <pfifo> dogarrhea: no the dont
[21:02] <dogarrhea> are you serious?
[21:02] <bekks> they dont. or there wouldnt have been SMP before.
[21:02] <einstein> hello
[21:02] <bekks> dogarrhea: yes, we are.
[21:02] <reisio> 'lo einstein
[21:02]  * pfifo puts on his srs face
[21:03] <bekks> pfifo: dont laugh, we're at the good cop, bad cop level now ;P
[21:03] <einstein> how are you?
[21:04] <pfifo> no still bad cop and bad cop
[21:04] <bekks> :D
[21:04] <TJ-> dogarrhea: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain for using development releases of GCC
[21:04] <dogarrhea> bekks, pfifo, again, they are repeating that mutex and thread were introduced in c++11
[21:04] <dogarrhea> so either they are wrong or you are wrong
[21:05] <dogarrhea> it can't be both but someone has to figure this out
[21:05] <pfifo> dogarrhea: can you pastebin your code
[21:05] <dogarrhea> http://www.pasteal.org/46974
[21:05] <moppy> dogarrhea, my udnerstanding is that gcc current version is compliant with c++11. are you asking how to update gcc?
[21:05] <dogarrhea> yes I am moppy
[21:06] <pfifo> dogarrhea: can you pastebin it somewhere else, that link isnt working for me
[21:06] <moppy> dogarrhea, Oh sec, i see their stblib is behind
[21:07] <moppy> dogarrhea, but it has mutex, cool
[21:07] <dogarrhea> http://www.pasteall.org/46974
[21:07] <dogarrhea> so i just need to update my gcc. but not sure how
[21:08] <dogarrhea> i have some ubuntu 10 version..
[21:08] <moppy> dogarrhea, silly question, being a c/c++ dev and all that but have you tried building it from source? :-)
[21:08] <dogarrhea> making the gcc compilers?
[21:08] <dogarrhea> i haven't
[21:08] <kostkon> dogarrhea, your ubuntu is eol anyway, you nned to upgrade to a newer version
[21:08] <dogarrhea> i thought i'd do it the ubuntu way but it appears this is a useless way
[21:08] <moppy> dogarrhea, ##c++ on here should know where to get a PPA from
[21:09] <moppy> dogarrhea, the problem is you need an updated ppa for it, to use the package manager, but it will depend on libraries newer than ubuntu 10, so its a bit of effort
[21:10] <moppy> dogarrhea, i've found the PPA for the latest version of gcc but (4.8.something) it's not going work on Ubuntu 10
[21:10] <dogarrhea> ok.  I'll look for the actual source and make
[21:10] <TJ-> dogarrhea: Maybe you could create a 13.10 chroot using debootstrap where the up-to-date GCC is installed by default?
[21:10] <dogarrhea> ugh. this is taking too much time. I need to download and install for a few hours?
[21:11] <dogarrhea> dogarrhea: Maybe you could create a 13.10 chroot using debootstrap where the up-to-date GCC is installed by default? <---- how much time?
[21:11] <pfifo> dogarrhea: the easiest way to updeate your gcc is to install ubuntu 13.10. your gcc is pretty outdates
[21:11] <dogarrhea> seriously?
[21:11] <TJ-> dogarrhea: I created one early in about 5 minutes
[21:11] <dogarrhea> i need to reinstall an os to use an application?
[21:11] <dogarrhea> that sounds entirely useless
[21:12] <pfifo> dogarrhea: you dont 'need' but im giving you the 'fastest' option
[21:12] <karab44> hello
[21:12] <mrpanda> hey
[21:12] <marahin> Hey guys. I've been trying to install Ubuntu minimal; though my installation hangs at "Intsalling the base system\n Retrieveing file 7 of 12 (10s remaining)"
[21:12] <OerHeks> dogarrhea, if you want that latest software, yes. and it is free
[21:12] <marahin> it froze there for like ~10 minutes already
[21:12] <karab44> How to watch things that are in silverlight?
[21:12] <mrpanda> anybody know about libnih ?
[21:12] <marahin> is there any way to *restart* the installation? :P
[21:12] <dogarrhea> every 3 years i need to reinstall os and test all my applications?
[21:12] <dogarrhea> this is seriously a bad release strategy
[21:13] <pfifo> wants the latestes greatest features of software... refuses to upgrade software
[21:13] <OerHeks> dogarrhea, well, what version are you running actually ? 10.04 desktop is EOL
[21:13] <pfifo> cant have both man
[21:14] <kostkon> dogarrhea, lts releases are supported for 5y, starting from 12.04
[21:14] <moppy> dogarrhea, Just build gcc from source or install 12.10 in a virtual machine or chroot or something
[21:14] <moppy> Although I admit building gcc is a major pain in the backside
[21:14] <pfifo> dogarrhea: how about this, instead of using c++11 revert to just plain c which has threads and mutices and is supported by your old gcc
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> marahin, I would give it a little more time, the net connection may be slow....etc
[21:15] <dogarrhea> pfifo that sounds like not an option either
[21:15] <TJ-> dogarrhea: "sudo mkdir -p /chroot/13.10; sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd saucy /chroot/13.10 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu"
[21:15] <dogarrhea> i'm hearing things like "reinstall os" and "rewrite your code from scratcH" i'm very curious now heh
[21:15] <pfifo> TJ-: lucid debootstrap dosent have saucy script
[21:15] <PDilyard> ok so i partitioned a 30gb volume with ext3. should i select that as the "Device for boot loader installation"?
[21:16] <dogarrhea> buildd with two 'd's?
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> marahin, From my net installs I noticed a bit longer time for finishing is all, it is downloading the info.
[21:16] <moppy> dogarrhea, I dont think anyone told you to rewrite the code. It's silly idea anyway
[21:16] <dogarrhea> moppy:  <pfifo> dogarrhea: how about this, instead of using c++11 revert to just plain c which has threads and mutices and is supported by your old gcc
[21:16] <moppy> dogarrhea, Wow ok that was a bit crazy :-)
[21:17] <dogarrhea> debootstrap command not found
[21:17] <Vivekananda> anyone could tell me in ubuntu 12.04 what is the diff between var/www/ folder and the webapp/ folder for tomcat
[21:17] <moppy> dogarrhea, once you get to 12.04 or later, it should be fine: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/install-gcc-4-8-via-ppa-in-ubuntu-12-04-13-04/
[21:17] <PDilyard> pfifo: ok so i partitioned a 30gb volume with ext3. should i select that as the "Device for boot loader installation"?
[21:17] <PDilyard> e.g. /dev/sda4
[21:18] <Anony_Black> Mahlzeit ist das hier das Deutsche Forum
[21:18] <moppy> dogarrhea, ubuntu is quite fast moving anyway, debian is an option if you want more long term stability
[21:20] <Anony_Black> lol
[21:20] <marahin> wilee-nilee, well, it's staying for 15 minutes already like taht.
[21:20] <dogarrhea> i'm going to try to make from source
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, You installing a OS to this partition, is it on the HD, do you want it to have the boot control? 3 questions here.
[21:20] <marahin> wilee-nilee, so it doesn't really seem like it's downloading any info
[21:20] <marahin> rather like it lost connection and it can't resolve it back on
[21:21] <marahin> is there any way to interrupt the process and start it over again (but from the "download the base system" part further on)?
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> marahin, You can start over if you feel that is the case, I'm not sure on any restart from there, never had to myself
[21:22] <marahin> well i guess that's the solution, since it hadn't moved on...
[21:22] <marahin> let me try.
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> marahin, Is the router blinking like it's downloading?
[21:23] <Vivekananda> join #php
[21:23] <soman> I read a news about LO release and now I have next available version in update manager for libreoffice => 1:4.1.3~rc2-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1. Does it final release or release candidate?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda,  /join #php
[21:23] <marahin> wilee-nilee, seriously with that question? :D
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> marahin, I'm quite serious, hehe.
[21:24] <m3kk> how a
[21:24] <Vivekananda> yep got it
[21:24] <m3kk> hey
[21:24] <m3kk> how come i get grubmenu each time i boot
[21:24] <m3kk> i just want uubntu to boot?
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> m3kk, You dual booting?
[21:25] <m3kk> wilee-nilee: I replaced win8 with ubuntu
[21:25] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: I am installing ubuntu on the 30gb partition, its on my SSD, and im not sure what you mean by boot control
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> m3kk, run sudo update-grub in ubuntu, if it's the only OS with no other bootloaders present you should not see the grub menu, run it check it out and repoert if you still see it and what;s there.
[21:26] <owen__> Hello all. I'm trying to create an installer that will prepare the local user environment for a script. I would also like the installer to add the user to the /etc/incron.allow and /var/spool/userName files. Is it possible to do this considering the installer script will have to run as root?
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, When you have multiple OS say several linux using grub, I have 3 on my HD whatever one has the grub in the mbr, or boot area has the boot control. This a uefi setup?
[21:28] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: correct
[21:28] <m3kk> wilee-nilee: i think the installer left a win8 loader on a partition.. i should just format that little sucker?
[21:29] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: right now im just running win7, after the install i'll be dual booting
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> m3kk, Yeah if not needed do it but to keep the partition numbers numerically in order don;t delete it just format it.
[21:29] <m3kk> ok
[21:29] <m3kk> wilee-nilee: thanks
[21:30] <m3kk> is it same drivers i install from ubuntu-software or if i install it from synaptic?
[21:30] <m3kk> same source?
[21:30] <CorpusCallosum> Hi Guys, using 12.04 ubuntu with gnome classic no effect. Trying to change theme with ubuntu tweak, when i add new theme folder into usr/share/themes/ even i can see it in the list of ubuntu tweak, when i change the theme, nothing change in desktop or partially change. theme is not changing fully. is this a bug or am i missing something?
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Cool this a uefi though, grub would go to the mbr if not no partition # just sda as you mention sda4 so I assume the ssd is sda.
[21:32] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: ok and should i disable secure boot before i install?
[21:32] <m3kk> guysguy should i remove drivers in use before installing fglrx drivers?`should i disable/uninstall opensoruce drivers before i install them
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, secure boot is part of uefi THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFO CAN YOU CONFIRM IT< lol.
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Be very careful here in not answering questions if you do not understand.
[21:34] <PDilyard> i just remember from installing on my laptop that i installed ubuntu, and then my pc would go to the grub terminal, and i had to disable secure boot before running the grub fix program
[21:34] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: ^^
[21:34] <PDilyard> srry meant ^ ^
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | PDilyard
[21:34] <mooperd> Hey, does anyone know anythig about kvm machines not rebooting; just stopping on guest os reboot
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Mainly here we want your install to be correct, same reason your here is all.
[21:36] <moppy> PDilyard, no-one is persecuting you, just that there was an issue a while ago with machines bricking as a result of messing with UEFI, so wilee-nilee just wants to be careful
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, If this is uefi sda for grub is incorrect is all, it has a boot partition.
[21:36] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: im not really following you guys, sorry
[21:37] <moppy> (canonical should buy some UEFI machines for the regulars on here: there's about 3 people in the whole channel who know UEFI and 2 of them don't want to talk about it :-)
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> did someone say uefi?
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> moppy, Heh, this is the last place one should come with a uefi for sure.
[21:38] <PDilyard> all i know is that on my laptop (HP) i had to change secure boot in the bios settings before grub would work. and now, on my laptop, grub has an entry "Windows UEFI Boot Loader" that boots into windows.
[21:38] <moppy> PDilyard, ok, but what is the problem? Does it not boot?
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> is there a problem?
[21:39] <PDilyard> haha i dont have a problem, my original question was making sure i selected the right partition to install on
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> ahh cool
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, What you know is good, it is a uefi, so a little different install schema is all, here is a thread I think that is quite helpful beyond the bots info.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295  This mod is focused on this and will help you at the ubuntu forums.
[21:40] <PDilyard> i made a new partition (ext3) and its now called /dev/sda4. Is this the "Device for bootloader installation" i should select?
[21:40] <m3kk> wilee-nilee: i formated that one but it still shjows up in grub.. can i just  edit the grub to boot ubuntu direct=
[21:41] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: wait how do we know its UEFI?
[21:41] <PDilyard> is there a way i can check to be sure?
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> m3kk, What would be helpful is if you ran the bootrepair app just the bootinfo summary it kick out a script that shows what is where and what its doing is this possible?
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: you don't specify a decive for the bootloader in uefi. I installs to ( what should be ) the only efi system partition.
[21:41] <m3kk> wilee-nilee: i have that app? :P
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> s/decive/device/
[21:42] <Zeranoe> After running several tests, I've noticed that the terminal emulator that comes with Ubuntu actually works faster than one of the virtual terminals (ctrl+alt+f1). I was testing make -j 4 commands on both, and the Ubuntu terminal emulator was faster each time. Does anyone have any idea whats going on here? I thought the virtual terminal would be faster seeing it's "lower end".
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: run: efibootmgr
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, secure boot is uefi at the least, you get a screen that says uefi, and as I said this is the last place uefi is really a top issue approached with any real empirical help.
[21:43] <owen__> If I run a script with sudo, it is possible to include in the script the local environment of the user that ran the sudo command?
[21:43] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: how do you guys know i have uefi? lol
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> m3kk, You can install it, just run the bootinfo summary and post the url to it, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:44] <PDilyard> can i just check for secure boot somehow
[21:44] <Jordan_U> owen__: What part of the "environment" do you want? Environment variables are specifically sanitized and removed by sudo for security reasons.
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: secure boot is an optional part of the uefi spec. if you have to disable it then you have to have uefi :P
[21:44] <PDilyard> i know but im not sure if i have to disable it lol
[21:44] <Jordan_U> PDilyard: What problem are you having?
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: you have to disable secure boot because the ubuntu bootloaders aren't signed by microsoft
[21:45] <PDilyard> i havent installed it yet lol.  Honestly confirming uefi is your responsibility, and it is ours to not go wilee-nilee on your install and break it.
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> the caps are a joke here
[21:46] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: im totally agree, and im sorry for asking, im just trying to make sure i dont mess anything up
[21:46] <LXDE_LUBUNTU> hi all. I made a live usb key, with Lubuntu 12.04. I used to install xmms.The problem is: I can't start it. It is not in the start menu.How can I start it? Thank you
[21:46] <owen__> Jordan_U: The user ID and the /home directory. So that when the user runs the install script using sudo, the local user's ID is added to certain files within the /etc and /var directories as well as creating .directories in the users /home directory.
[21:46] <Jordan_U> hitsujiTMO: PDilyard: Ubuntu's shim is signed by microsoft, and so Ubuntu can boot perfectly well with secure boot enabled.
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, I'm with you bro. ;)
[21:47] <PDilyard> Jordan_U: ah ok thanks for the clarification
[21:47] <Jordan_U> owen__: What is your end goal? What does this script do?
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> Jordan_U: yes, but not the installer
[21:47] <Jordan_U> hitsujiTMO: Of course the install image is signed also.
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Take a look at the bots uefi and the thread I sent you, if you need them again just say so.
[21:47] <Jordan_U> PDilyard: You're welcome.
[21:47] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee:alright thanks!
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> Jordan_U: since when? refuses to boot for me with secure boot
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[21:48] <PDilyard> ok let me attempt this and i'll be back to let you guys know how it went
[21:48] <PDilyard> lol
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[21:48] <Jordan_U> hitsujiTMO: For multiple releases. What image are you trying to boot, and is it on a CD or a USB? (If USB, what tool did you use to load the image onto the drive?)
[21:49] <marahin> wilee-nilee, now it stops at "Configuring linux-image-3.8(...)-generic"
[21:49] <marahin> :P
[21:49] <marahin> gaaaay
[21:49] <AlanBell> hitsujiTMO: 32bit image or the 64bit iso?
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> marahin, gaaaay? this amaking fun of a marginalized group?
[21:50] <semajnad> jpds: Here another question. I create a user called testingaccount and give it a password of 1, I then create a group called testinggroup and usermod testingaccount -g testinggroup. I then do usermod testingaccount -s /bin/false - and after a short time do the same again but bash. However when I load putty and login, it instantly closes or says access denied.
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> jordan_U usb, 64bit, ... i can boot it as uefi no problem.
[21:50] <owen__> Jordan_U: Add the local user who ran the script as sudo into a file /etc/incron.allow and name a file after the local user that will reside in the /var/spool/incrond/localUser. The installer script would also add two .directories in the users /home directory
[21:50] <marahin> wilee-nilee, no offense, of course - rather as "haaa! gaaay" meme. :P
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> marahin, I'm straight, but find that really offensive I can't help you.
[21:51] <marahin> :DD
[21:51] <semajnad> Why is saying gay offensive lol
[21:52] <yeats> !guidelines
[21:52] <megalodon> Hi, when I set the filemanager to show detailed list - view, via Settings Manager, nautilus still shows icons instead of list view. Anyone know why?
[21:52] <megalodon> Ubuntu Studio 10.10
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> Jordan_U: what do you know, just retried and it does boot on 13.10 ... must have been an earlier version that wasn't booting.
[21:53] <owen__> Jordan_U: Is there a way to trace the local user that ran the sudo command?
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> owen__: should show up in auth log
[21:54] <Jordan_U> !eol | megalodon
[21:54] <owen__> hitsujiTMO: Where would I find the auth log file?
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> owen__: /var/log/auth.log
[21:55] <megalodon> OK
[21:55] <owen__> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, I'll check that out
[21:55] <CorpusCallosum> Hi Guys, using 12.04 ubuntu with gnome classic no effect. Trying to change theme with ubuntu tweak, when i add new theme folder into usr/share/themes/ even i can see it in the list of ubuntu tweak, when i change the theme, nothing change in desktop or partially change. theme is not changing fully. is this a bug or am i missing something?
[21:55] <polter> I'm having some issues with my wifi. It's incredibly slow, and the only thing that seems to fix it is to disable 802.11N networking, which really isn't an optimal solution
[21:56] <Jordan_U> owen__: What is this script installing? It seems clear to me that rather than try to get info on the user that ran the script using sudo, you should fix your app to store user specific preferences in the user's home directory, and not populate those directories from a script run as root.
[21:56] <wafflejock> polter: are you  on 13.10?
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> owen fastest way to find the entry is: sudo cat /var/log/auth.log | grep "<command>"
[21:56] <polter> wafflejock, yep
[21:56] <PDilyard> ok hang on here...on my SSD my new partition is /dev/sda4, which is where i want / to be. i think i understand what you guys were saying now...but im not sure how to proceed. wilee-nilee, Jordan_U
[21:56] <polter> I was running 13.10 for quite a while, but there must have been a kernel update or something because it stopped working a couple of weeks ago or so
[21:57] <wafflejock> polter: not sure what to tell you except a lot of people are having problems on 13.10 with wireless and I personally installed from a minimal disc last night on some old beater laptop and can't get it to connect to wifi though it sees the networks
[21:57] <Jordan_U> PDilyard: Please post a screenshot of the part of the installer you're having trouble with.
[21:57] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | PDilyard
[21:57] <wafflejock> polter: tried with multiple USB adapters, and could scan to see networks but could never join.... I'm probably gonna grab a 12.04 LTS disc and see if it's still a problem will take a while but if you're still here I'll let you know
[21:57] <PDilyard> ok
[21:57] <barkofink>  hello vlc can't find aac h264 decoder same in dragon player
[21:57] <megalodon> actually, I use Ubuntu 12.10
[21:58] <megalodon> not 10.10
[21:58] <Jordan_U> barkofink: Can you give an example of a video that's not playing for you?
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, For sure Jordan_U Is your best help between the two of us, I'm not real up on uefi.
[21:59] <barkofink> evryone but avi contener
[21:59] <polter> wafflejock, you will probably not have any issues on 12.04. As I wrote, I had no issues until lately with 13.10
[21:59] <bet0x> Hello, my volumen indicator is empty on my panel, how can i fix this? i installed xubuntu-desktop from console
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> bet0x, Are you booted to it from the login?
[22:00] <bet0x> i logged in normally
[22:00] <barkofink> Jordan_U can't decode aac but can play musepack files crazy..
[22:00] <bet0x> changed from Gnome due crash and crash
[22:01] <PDilyard> Jordan_U: http://imagebin.org/275569
[22:01] <wyatt> hey everyone im having problems with my  skype can anyone help me
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> bet0x, Cool, someone can probably help, however another crashed desktop may be a factor as they may share.
[22:02] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> can't decode aac but can play musepack files crazy..
[22:02] <bet0x> i won't waste my time triying to fix Gnome with Unity, is always broken nor have issues, i switched to Xface wich works like a charm, but i got that tiny issue
[22:02] <Jordan_U> barkofink: You still haven't provided an example I can look at that fails for you.
[22:02] <wyatt> Pulseaudio is showing in my audio setting in skype as pulse audio server (local) there is not way of changing the settings no one can hear me
[22:02] <owen__> Jordan_U: I have a script that performs a basic task. That part works OK. The problem is that this script is triggered using incron. I want to bundle all this up into a .deb package. Basically I want this to install and run with the least amount of effort for the user. I have this entire thing almost working, except the root user is being used in incron(since the script is being run as sudo) and not the local user.
[22:03] <itaylor57> I can't seem to find the REST::Cllent perl module
[22:03] <intrader> Anyone, my mistake cp -r instead
[22:03] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> I think I answered you read more
[22:04] <Jordan_U> PDilyard: The "device for bootloader installation" option is meaningless on UEFI systems, select "sda" just because that's the value that would make sense for a BIOS based system (where it matters). You also need to set the mountpoint of the partition you want to be your root partition to '/', and you need to create an EFI System Partition (assuming your machine is currently configured to boot via UEFI).
[22:04] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> [22:59] <barkofink> evryone but avi contener
[22:04] <wyatt> Pulseaudio is showing in my audio setting in skype as pulse audio server (local) there is not way of changing the settings no one can hear me
[22:04] <Jordan_U> barkofink: Please post a link to a single video that I can download, that doesn't work for you.
[22:04] <wafflejock> polter: ah okay perhaps you'd have better luck attempting to use NDISwrapper to get some drivers loaded instead of depending on whatever you've got going now
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: select /dev/sda4 and choose change ... you should be able to tell it to mount as root then
[22:06] <owen__> Jordan_U: The .deb package does its thing it installs the main script, man pages, incron etc.. But incron needs the local user ID. The installer script preinst is doing everything as root for the incron settings, when it should be using the local user who installed the .deb package
[22:06] <Jordan_U> owen__: The way that all sane apps work is that they install via a .deb file, managing only those parts of the app that are not specific to a single user, then when the app is first run by a user any needed configuration for that user is done at that time, touching only files in the user's home directory.
[22:06] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: i want it to be an EFI boot partition, correct?
[22:06] <polter> wafflejock, that's not a bad idea. I might just do that.
[22:07] <Jordan_U> PDilyard: Why aren't you just allowing the installer to partition things automatically?
[22:07] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> i can't i told you ALL mp4 contener with aac + h264 inside or mkv (with same codecs)
[22:08] <PDilyard> Jordan_U: because for some reason the "Install Ubuntu alongside them" option doesnt recognize my SSD
[22:08] <Jordan_U> barkofink: Can you provide a link to a single video with an mp4 container and aac audio + h.264 video for me to download?
[22:08] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> h264 works in the video but not the audio same for the other player
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: no ... it seems our windows install is not a uefi install considering that you don't already have an efi partition. you can either set /dev/sda4 as ext2 ext3 or ext4, what ever your preference. ext4 would be the norm
[22:08] <owen__> Jordan_U: I got that far, so I thought the .deb package could install the ground work stuff and then there could be an installer that the local user would run to install it locally, but again I'm back to the sudo problem.
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> s/our/your
[22:09] <howefield> .quit
[22:09] <Jordan_U> owen__: No, if your app is designed correctly you're not back at any sudo problem. The user specific portion of your program's setup shouldn't touch anything outside the user's home directory, and thus should not require the use of sudo.
[22:10] <semajnad> Can someone please give me a hand with this, this is what i'm trying to do : http://pastie.org/8451103
[22:10] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: ok so then how do i install ubuntu in that partition?
[22:10] <moppy> owen__, maybe do what apache does and create a user account for itself?
[22:10] <owen__> Jordan_U: A local user cannot configure the /etc/incron.allow file
[22:10] <bet0x> Fixed the sound issue myself, creating a patch now for the rest of the hoomans! :P
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: its not seeing your windows environment as its not a uefi install. reboot and load the usb in legacy mode ( you should have 2 boot options usb:DEVICE NAME  or UEFI:DEVICE NAME, choose the usb option
[22:11] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> i don't have virtual dub here i just install a new distro. it's working under windows,all movies
[22:11] <semajnad> Can someone please give me a hand with this, this is what i'm trying to do : http://pastie.org/8451103
[22:13] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> it has nothing to do with the movies
[22:13] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: hmm when i press esc while booting it takes me straight to the "Try Ubuntu without installing screen"
[22:13] <PDilyard> i havent seen the option to choose between usb and uefi
[22:14] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: you should have a seperate key for boot menu ... else your should be able to select it in the bios
[22:14] <PDilyard> ah ok
[22:14] <PDilyard> brb then
[22:14] <owen__> hitsujiTMO: I think using awk on the /var/log/auth.log to get the user ID is the solution to my problem, thanks :)
[22:15] <ljunggren_> i got both xserver and fglrx drivers installed in synaptic.. should i remove xserver ? if i want to use only fglrx?
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren_: no, have you installed fglrx already?
[22:17] <bet0x> patch published: http://www.barrahome.org/2013/11/02/parche-indicador-de-sonido-en-xubuntu-13-10.html bug can be close now lol
[22:17] <bet0x> :D
[22:17] <CorpusCallosum> Hi Guys, using 12.04 ubuntu with gnome classic no effect. Trying to change theme with ubuntu tweak, when i add new theme folder into usr/share/themes/ even i can see it in the list of ubuntu tweak, when i change the theme, nothing change in desktop or partially change. theme is not changing fully. is this a bug or am i missing something?
[22:18] <jubale> How can we get some kind of a start menu or GUI program list for programs installed under WINE?
[22:18] <polter> is there any downside to adding the kernel ppa? I want to see if my networking issues are fixed
[22:18] <semajnad> Can someone please give me a hand with this, this is what i'm trying to do : http://pastie.org/8451103
[22:18] <ljunggren_> hitsujiTMO, yeah just installed them..
[22:18] <Jordan_U> owen__: Please do *not* consider that a solution.
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren_: just restart and it should pickup fglrx.   what gpu do you have?
[22:19] <garcianc> semajnad, on your note when you say that the user has access to ftp, I am not sure if that's what you meant. Aren't you chrooting ssh?
[22:20] <garcianc> semajnad, oops, I just read it again, you mean FTP is locked, got it
[22:20] <semajnad> garcianc: Ye, they get locked in FTP to that directory perfectly, it's just that when I set them back to /bin/bash so I can login as them, it doesn't let me log in
[22:21] <semajnad> garcianc: Unless there's another way to lock a user our of command line
[22:21] <ljunggren_> hitsujiTMO, radeon 7950
[22:21] <ljunggren_> hitsujiTMO, trying to get steam working ;)