[00:44] <nate_> Hello?
[00:44] <nate_> there we go!
[00:44] <nate_> How usable is the current Ubuntu Phone image?
[00:45] <nate_> is anyone there?
[00:48] <SpacedOut> nate_: great for my test application, but the web browser isn't working for me.
[00:48] <SpacedOut> drats gone...
[00:58] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: hey, got to install it, thanks for your help!
[01:00] <SpacedOut> JoseeAntonioR: Glad to hear it, does the web browser work?  It just goes white for me, I'm thinking I've pulled an unsupported combination of ppa packages.
[01:01] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: same here, worked fine until I added PPAs.
[01:01] <JoseeAntonioR> and it wouldn't let me connect to a network unless it was open
[01:03] <JoseeAntonioR> anyways, I'll have to go back to android as the owner thinks it's not stable enough :(
[01:05] <SpacedOut> I'm connecting to access points that have preshared keys.  I wouldn't call it all that unstable, I would call it not ready and missing features.
[01:06] <JoseeAntonioR> exactly
[01:06] <JoseeAntonioR> for me, it's good, I'd stick with it (but unfortunately don't have a tablet :( )
[02:47] <spoon_> hello, can i install ubuntu touch with the CWRM?
[05:44] <dpsi> hello
[05:45] <dpsi> when I run breakfast, it can't find the product spec
[06:10] <LeTicked> Just installed Ubuntu Touch on my Galaxy Nexus. Interesting.
[06:29] <anshu_> trying the manual install of ubuntu TDK on nexus 4
[06:30] <anshu_> i boot into recovery mode...
[06:31] <anshu_> run this "adb push /path/to/your/downloaded/raring-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip /sdcard/autodeploy.zip"
[06:31] <anshu_> it gives an error "device not found"
[06:31] <anshu_> what wrong here?
[06:32] <anshu_> do I have to boot into "stock recovery" or just "recovery"  mode
[06:32] <JoseeAntonioR> anshu_: is the device connected and usb debugging on?
[06:32] <anshu_> any help?
[06:33] <JoseeAntonioR> ^
[06:33] <anshu_> Josee_: yes it is
[06:34] <JoseeAntonioR> anshu_: try running 'adb kill-server' and then 'adb push...'
[06:34] <JoseeAntonioR> anshu_: also, /path/to/your/downloaded/ should be replaced with the actual path
[06:35] <anshu_> Josee: do i need to boot into stock recovery mode (where we get that menu) ??
[06:35] <anshu_> Josee:yes I've replaced the path :)
[06:35] <JoseeAntonioR> anshu_: yes, you need to be on recovery mode
[06:36] <anshu_> I did it in recovery mode only (robot on back with red triangle)
[06:37] <JoseeAntonioR> anshu_: did you try what I said earlier on?
[06:38] <anshu_> i tried that, still it says "device not found"
[06:40] <JoseeAntonioR> anshu_: try disconnecting and reconnecting the device from the PC
[06:40] <JoseeAntonioR> (just so you know, I had the same problem today, and fixed it somehow by disconnecting and connecting or moving the cable a bit)
[06:42] <anshu_> tried that too...still the same error
[08:02] <rusman> will Ubuntu-phone use java virtual machine for applications development as an android it does?
[08:03] <rusman> or willC be native language fot developers?
[08:04] <highvoltage> rusman: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/
[08:07] <rusman> oh my god
[08:08] <rusman> ubuntu will use java virtual machine
[08:09] <rusman> no mobile X server
[08:09] <rusman> it will be second android
[08:40] <Pat_PPOS> hi
[08:40] <Pat_PPOS> why sometimes i have :
[08:40] <Pat_PPOS> List of devices attached
[08:40] <Pat_PPOS> ????????????	no permissions
[08:40] <Pat_PPOS> with necus
[08:40] <Pat_PPOS> nexus7
[08:54] <Mirv> Pat_PPOS: there at least used to be some USB id changes, so /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules wasn't uptodate. there should be eg SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="18d1", ATTR{idProduct}=="4ee1", MODE="0666"
[08:55] <Mirv> where the '4ee1' is replaced with whatever lsusb gives to your nexus device
[09:06] <Pat_PPOS> thx Mirv
[09:12] <Mirv> hmm, was it possible to share host's network connection to the device _over_ USB? it doesn't seem that wifi is working on the saucy builds yet on my mako.
[09:14] <Mirv> maybe I'll try if I get iptables installed manually there
[09:19] <Mirv> ah, right, but android..
[09:22] <Mirv> so, any tips welcome
[09:44] <Pat_PPOS> i can't validate <input> value in webbrowser app ? do you have any idea ?
[11:07] <davmor2> hey guys I'm following the guide here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting for my crespo phone (samsung galaxy nexus s) so I type in breakfast crespo and get told there is no such command as breakfast is the guide wrong or am I using it wrong?
[11:16] <f69m> davmor2: did you run "source build/envsetup.sh"? I am sure the guide mentions that. ;)
[11:18] <davmor2> f69m: not unless it is writen in white text on the white background.  The only thing is it might be in one of the subpage links and I missed it
[11:21] <f69m> f69m: Well, breakfast is not a script or binary, but a shell function defined in that script you need to source. If that's not clear in the guide, maybe you should nag the Canonical guys to update it. ;)
[11:22] <Namidairo> Namidairo: speaking to one's self in the second person is totally normal behaviour.
[11:25] <davmor2> f69m: well as I happen to be one of the canonical I think I know who to pick on.  But I might write out a dummies guide to porting from my experiences and try and make it easier for anyone to do it, thanks for the info though :)
[11:26] <f69m> davmor2: Oops :)
[11:26] <davmor2> f69m: this is my first attempt at trying to port to this device.  hence the hiccup but it is good to find these things :)
[11:28] <f69m> davmor2: Absolutely! As someone clever already recognized in the 1970's: "Each new user of a new system discovers a new class of bugs." And that is even worse for guides than for software. ;)
[11:30] <davmor2> indeed
[11:40] <ZDmitry> Mirv, do you still want network ower usb? if so, I have some tips...
[11:41] <Mirv> ZDmitry: happy to hear ideas. I'm android newbie enough that I hit the wall with ifconfig giving nothing.. if I'd have usb0 for example, I'd just use iptables to forward
[11:42] <ZDmitry> Mirv, at first go to root with "adb root"
[11:42] <ZDmitry> then enable networking with "adb shell setprop sys.usb.config rndis,adb"
[11:43] <Mirv> ZDmitry: yeah it's this adb magic I'm missing.. but that one says device not found, maybe snother saucy build problem?
[11:44] <Mirv> ZDmitry: if you meant not running the second adb command on the device but from host after adb root, then please just go on, it didn't report an error :)
[11:45] <ZDmitry> Mirv, yes this two command preformed on host
[11:46] <ZDmitry> if all done, you'll get new network interface on host
[11:47] <Mirv> ZDmitry: awesome, so it is. what IP I should give it?
[11:47] <ZDmitry> You should use this script: http://pastebin.com/JayemnhG
[11:47] <ZDmitry> put it on device
[11:48] <ZDmitry> and run from adb shell <path_to_script>
[11:49] <ZDmitry> So at host side you need to set ip <IP_ADDRESS> and enable network sharing
[11:49] <ZDmitry> This script works well for me on Win 7
[11:50] <ZDmitry> I mean network sharing works for device
[11:52] <ZDmitry> On Ubuntu I didn't test this recipe.
[11:56] <Mirv> ZDmitry: does not work immediately, but teaches me enough. if I run the adb command you mentioned first, I can't execute further adb shell commands after it (because it disables adb in favor of rndis?). and without I got rndis0 unknown device. but when I added it (setprop sys.usb.config rndis,adb) at the beginning of the pastebin script, it at least didn't give errors
[11:57] <Mirv> anyway, tinkering a bit more. I'm on Ubuntu indeed.
[11:58] <ZDmitry> "adb shell setprop sys.usb.config rndis,adb" - preforming this at host you enable rndis0 and adb on device (by def. there only adb)
[12:00] <Mirv> ZDmitry: for some reason performing that stops adb shell working for me after that. which is why I tried inserting to the beginning of the script that I can run with a single adb shell command
[12:01] <Mirv> (I mean, adb shell giving Insufficient permissions for device)
[12:01] <ZDmitry> ????????? - this?
[12:02] <Mirv> ZDmitry: ah, yes, that
[12:02] <Mirv> via adb devices
[12:02] <raven> is it possible to install ubuntu touch without an sd card
[12:02] <ZDmitry> we know)
[12:02] <ZDmitry> it's udev fails (on host)
[12:03] <Mirv> ZDmitry: yay, again a new usb id, adding to udev rules..
[12:03] <raven> anyone?
[12:03] <ZDmitry> Mirv, no-no
[12:03] <raven> has anyone here installed ubuntu touch on a samsung galaxy s2?
[12:05] <ZDmitry> I did it in this way: restart udev - "sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart"
[12:05] <Mirv> ZDmitry: I added the new id to rules and restarted udev, seems to work now
[12:05] <ZDmitry> Then restart adb server (on host)
[12:05] <Mirv> ah, but still getting ip: can't find device 'rndis0'
[12:06] <ZDmitry> 'rndis0' - on device?
[12:06] <Mirv> ZDmitry: on device, yes, when running adb shell data/usb.sh (where I saved the pastebin script)
[12:06] <raven> why do you guys hate me
[12:07] <Mirv> raven: we don't hate you at all! :)
[12:07] <raven> i cznt get it to install
[12:09] <ZDmitry> Mirv: hm, bit strange. if "adb shell setprop sys.usb.config rndis,adb" preformed and you still hasn't rndis0, then try on device "netcfg"
[12:09] <raven> it says cant format unknowen volume /external_sd
[12:10] <raven> and
[12:10] <raven> cant partition unsafe device: /dev/block/mccblk1p1
[12:11] <Mirv> ZDmitry: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5683508/
[12:11] <Mirv> no rndis0, but surprisingly wlan0 is there even though networks are shown
[12:13] <Mirv> ZDmitry: anyway, thanks a lot for this Android primer, it'll be helpful later. at this point I'm inclined to think that many things are broken on the experimental saucy images. (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/)
[12:13] <ZDmitry> Mirv: usb0 - this may be yours rndis0
[12:14] <raven> please just answer me this
[12:14] <raven> i have cwm version 6
[12:14] <raven> could that me the issue?
[12:15] <ZDmitry> raven, which instruction did you use?
[12:15] <ogra_> raven, did you follow the install instructions for your device properly ?
[12:15] <ogra_> there should be a link to an xdg forums thread for your S2
[12:16] <raven> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2188621
[12:16] <ogra_> which should have install instructions for flashing
[12:17] <ogra_> looks fine
[12:17] <ogra_> just follow it then
[12:17] <raven> i did
[12:17] <raven> but i get partitioning error
[12:17] <Mirv> ZDmitry: success! forwarded network via iptables from host, removed one bogus entry from /etc/resolv.conf (I want google as my name server, not my host machine), now it works!
[12:17] <ogra_> raven, from recovery mode ?
[12:17] <raven> yeah in cwm
[12:17] <Mirv> ZDmitry: thanks a lot. so indeed it was usb0 here, not rndis0
[12:17] <ZDmitry> Mirv, ^^
[12:18] <ogra_> raven, when doing what exactly ?
[12:18] <raven> ill try update my cwm
[12:18] <ogra_> (tehoretically any recovery image should work for flashing)
[12:18] <raven> i click install from internal storage and install the smaller file  and it says  the errors i said  before
[12:19] <ogra_> did you mount data and sdcard from the CWM menu ?
[12:19] <ogra_> might be that it doesnt do that automatically
[12:19] <raven> i dont have a sd card
[12:19] <ogra_> sdcatd is a virtial thing inside the recovery thing
[12:19] <ogra_> doessnt mean an actual SD card
[12:20] <raven> :P it doesnt mount it
[12:20] <ogra_> iirc it just bind mounts /data/media or some such to the /sdcard dir
[12:20] <raven> i cant mount sdcard
[12:20] <ogra_> well, then try without that ... just push the zips to /data
[12:20] <ogra_> then try falshing the armel zip first
[12:21] <ogra_> *flashing
[12:21] <raven> every time i tryed i unmounted everything
[12:21] <ogra_> you shouldnt
[12:21] <ogra_> /data needs to be mounted
[12:22] <user82> ogra_, sorry to interrupt but did you happen to hear about 3g? roughly two weeks till it works?
[12:22] <ogra_> user82, ask awe once he is around, he is the one trying to get it to work
[12:22] <raven> ummmmmmmm
[12:22] <raven> i formatted everythign
[12:22] <raven> and d eleted the file..
[12:23] <ogra_> which file ?
[12:23] <raven> i dont know
[12:24] <raven> i clicked format then i went install from internal storage and it says not files found
[12:24] <ogra_> you deleted a file and dont know its name ?
[12:25] <raven> :(
[12:25] <raven> im stupid
[12:25] <raven> did i just root my phone
[12:25] <raven> i eman.. brick?
[12:25] <ogra_> well, thats ok
[12:25] <user82> ogra_, awe was offline for two days..but ok
[12:25] <ogra_> user82, well, it was a weekend
[12:26] <ogra_> (and in my country it still is ... since there is a public hoilday here today)
[12:26] <ogra_> raven, take a look at the install wikipage
[12:27] <ogra_> !install | raves
[12:27] <ogra_> !install | raven
[12:27] <ogra_> ergh
[12:27] <raven> yeah but
[12:27] <ogra_> raven, ignore that ... i thought the bot in here points to the touch install
[12:27] <user82> ogra_, pfingstmontag.... thanks for the info i will wait for awe!
[12:27] <raven> now i only have cwm..
[12:27] <ogra_> raven, see the channel topic, it has a link
[12:27] <raven> i accidently wiped everything else
[12:27] <ogra_> raven, follow the "manual installation" instructions there
[12:28] <ogra_> first push the armel file you downloaded from the xdg link ... then the armhf one
[12:30] <raven> i cant find iy
[12:30] <ogra_> ?
[12:30] <ogra_> cant find what ?
[12:31] <raven> i dont know what im doing..
[12:31] <raven> do i need a new phone
[12:32] <ogra_> raven, read the installl wikipage from the channel topic
[12:32] <ogra_> look at the manual install section
[12:32] <ogra_> first push the armel file you downloaded via adb (usb) to the phone, then push the armhf one
[12:33] <raven> im not seeing the word manuel anywhere
[12:33] <raven> and i dont know how to push..
[12:33] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Manual_Installation
[12:34] <raven> i dont have an sd card
[12:34] <ogra_> you dont need an sd card
[12:34] <ogra_> boot into recovery, connect your USB cable
[12:34] <raven> ok
[12:34] <raven> recovery mode is CWM?
[12:34] <ogra_> then use the adb push commands as described
[12:35] <ogra_> shut down your phone ...
[12:35] <ogra_> then hold down the volume kkeys and press the power button
[12:36] <ogra_> that should get you into a bootloader menu
[12:36] <ogra_> there you select "recovery mode" with the vol up/down keys
[12:36] <ogra_> if you see "recovery mode" press the power button
[12:36] <ogra_> the device should boot into the recovery mode now
[12:37] <ogra_> then follow the install instructions, indeed using the xdg zips with the instrudtions
[12:37] <raven> i dont see recovery mode
[12:38] <ogra_> you are in the bootloader (there should be a big android on the screen with open belly)
[12:38] <ogra_> ?
[12:38] <raven> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4l5_8OloBE
[12:38] <raven> this is what i see
[12:38] <raven> this is what i have*
[12:39]  * ogra_ has no flash here
[12:39] <ogra_> describe it
[12:39] <ogra_> you should see an android lying on its back ... with an open belly
[12:39] <ogra_> if you dont, you are not in the bootloader
[12:40] <raven> the options are rebbot system now, install zip, wipe date/factory reset, wipe cache partition, backup and restore, mounts and storage, advanced, philz settings, power off
[12:41] <ogra_> raven, so you are in the recovery mode
[12:41] <ogra_> fine then
[12:41] <raven> when i go into backup and restore every option says unable to mount /sdcard when i try them
[12:41] <ogra_> just use the adb commands from your PC now
[12:41] <raven> ok
[12:41] <ogra_> (with connected USB cable indeed)
[12:41] <raven> do i keep things mounted or unmounted
[12:41] <ogra_> try making sure /data is mounted
[12:45] <raven> ok..
[12:45] <raven> how do i know which file to push for my phone
[12:46] <ogra_> raven, you instal the two files from the xda post
[12:46] <ogra_> first the armel zip ...
[12:46] <ogra_> after thats done the armhf zip
[12:48] <raven> okay :)
[12:48] <raven> thank you for helping me ogra.. i know im useless
[12:48] <ogra_> why do you say that ?
[12:49] <raven> im new to linux
[12:49] <ogra_> you are a beginner ... we all were once
[12:49] <ogra_> dont worry about that :)
[12:59] <raven> do i rename it autodeploy.zip?
[13:00] <ogra_> adb does that for you
[13:00] <ogra_> just use exactly the command from the wiki
[13:00] <ogra_> (with the first path adjusted to point to where your armel zip lives indeed)
[13:02] <raven> error device not found
[13:03] <ogra_> try "adb devices"
[13:03] <ogra_> it should list it
[13:03] <SpacedOut> Mirv: I'm looking for a review on https://code.launchpad.net/~spacedout/qtubuntu/fix_opengl_sharing/+merge/163466  if you could.
[13:03] <ogra_> fi it doesnt, there is something wrong
[13:03] <ogra_> *if
[13:04] <SpacedOut> I'll be heading to work and not watching irc until tonight unfortunately.
[13:04] <raven> its blank
[13:04] <ogra_> the cable is attached properly ?
[13:04] <raven> yes
[13:04] <ogra_> try the following line:
[13:05] <ogra_> adb kill-server; sudo adb start-server
[13:05] <ogra_> that should restart adb as root
[13:05] <ogra_> and then try "adb devices" again
[13:05] <raven> still nothing
[13:06] <raven> do i want clockwork mod or download mode
[13:06] <ogra_> you want recovery mode usually
[13:07] <ogra_> if you boot normally, does the device go into a normal android screen ?
[13:07] <raven> it just says samsung galaxy s 2
[13:07] <raven> i accidently deleted everythign remember
[13:08] <ogra_> ok
[13:08] <ogra_> if you hold down volume-dn while pressing power on the completely shut down device, does that get you a different screen ?
[13:09] <raven> yes downloa mode
[13:09] <ogra_> ok
[13:09] <raven> still nothing
[13:09] <ogra_> and if you hold down both, vol-up and down when pressing power ?
[13:11] <raven> nothing
[13:11] <ogra_> nothing ?
[13:11] <ogra_> like black screen ?
[13:11] <raven> samsung galaxy s 2
[13:12] <ogra_> is there a yellow triangle below it with an exclamation mark ?
[13:12] <raven> yes
[13:12] <raven> thats always there
[13:13] <ogra_> ok
[13:13] <ogra_> unplug the usb cable
[13:13] <ogra_> try the vol-dn + power combo
[13:13] <raven> ya
[13:14] <ogra_> see if that gets you into a different screen
[13:15] <raven> nope
[13:15] <ogra_> try with vol-up instaed
[13:15] <raven> volume up is cockwork
[13:15] <raven> volume down is odin mode
[13:15] <raven> the download mode thing
[13:16] <ogra_> you want to see something like: http://i0.wp.com/cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/htc-one-att-root.jpg
[13:16] <raven> ya i can get to that
[13:16] <ogra_> ok
[13:16] <ogra_> and if the phone is in this mode "adb devices" should list it
[13:17] <raven> im there
[13:17] <ogra_> and you should be able to log in with "adb shell"
[13:17] <raven> ?
[13:17] <ogra_> or push files with adb puch
[13:17] <raven> plug back in?
[13:17] <ogra_> yes
[13:17] <ogra_> whaat are you running on your PC btw ?
[13:17] <raven> ubuntu 13.04
[13:17] <ogra_> k
[13:17] <ogra_> that should theoretically work then
[13:17] <raven> no attacked devices
[13:18] <raven> do i need a driver or something
[13:18] <ogra_> dmesg|tail
[13:18] <ogra_> can you pastebin the output of that commend ?
[13:18] <ogra_> *command
[13:18] <ogra_> it should show the attaching of a USB device
[13:19] <raven> raven@midori:~$ dmesg|tail
[13:19] <raven> [21620.856757] hub 2-1:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[13:19] <raven> [21621.152195] usb 2-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 31 using ehci-pci
[13:19] <raven> [21621.499798] usb 2-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 32 using ehci-pci
[13:19] <raven> [21624.148853] usb 2-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[13:19] <raven> [21624.336660] usb 2-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[13:19] <raven> [21624.512476] usb 2-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 33 using ehci-pci
[13:19] <raven> [21626.709859] usb 2-1.1: device not accepting address 33, error -75
[13:19] <raven> [21626.781959] usb 2-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 34 using ehci-pci
[13:19] <raven> [21627.193334] usb 2-1.1: device not accepting address 34, error -71
[13:19] <raven> [21627.193505] hub 2-1:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[13:19] <ogra_> uh, please use a pastebin ...
[13:19] <ogra_> !paste
[13:19] <raven> sorry
[13:19] <ogra_> that doesnt look right
[13:19] <ogra_> do you have another free usb port you can try on the PC ?
[13:19] <raven> yeah
[13:20] <ogra_> try it there and see if there is other output in demsg
[13:20] <ogra_> *dmesg
[13:20] <raven> exactly the same
[13:20] <ogra_> weird
[13:20] <Mirv> SpacedOut: I'm a newbie to qtubuntu, let's ping Kaleo_ ricmm mterry instead to review your https://code.launchpad.net/~spacedout/qtubuntu/fix_opengl_sharing/+merge/163466
[13:20] <Mirv> (from qtubuntu changelog)
[13:21] <Mirv> or jhodapp, loicm ^
[13:21] <raven> new phone time opra?
[13:21] <raven> ogra*
[13:21] <ogra_> raven, nah
[13:21] <ogra_> the problem seems to lie on the PC side
[13:21] <raven> oh
[13:22] <raven> that is possible..
[13:22] <raven> ubuntu hates my pc
[13:22] <ogra_> it should properly set up the device ... which it doesnt
[13:22] <mterry> SpacedOut, Mirv, I'm probably not your guy for that, but if platforms/base/integration.h is a public header, you might want to be careful about dropping that public function
[13:22] <raven> is there a way i can amke it set up the device
[13:22] <ogra_> "unable to enumerate USB device on port 1" soinds like a USb driver prob
[13:22] <raven> hm..
[13:23] <raven> (no idea lol)
[13:23] <ogra_> do you have android-toold-adb installed on the PC ?
[13:23] <ogra_> *tools
[13:23] <raven> yeah it made me install it to run the command
[13:23] <Kaleo_> loicm: you around?
[13:23] <ogra_> hmm, that should usually suffice
[13:23] <Kaleo_> SpacedOut: thanks a lot!
[13:24] <ogra_> raven, is the phone attached via an external HUB or directly on the PC ?
[13:24] <Kaleo_> mmrazik: any idea why jenkins has not processed https://code.launchpad.net/~spacedout/qtubuntu/fix_opengl_sharing/+merge/163466 ?
[13:25] <raven> directly
[13:25] <ogra_> hmm
[13:25] <ogra_> do you have another cable you could try ?
[13:25] <raven> it worked on my friends windows 7 machine
[13:25] <raven> trying another cable
[13:26] <raven> :o
[13:26] <raven> something changed
[13:26] <ogra_> :)
[13:26] <raven> oh no
[13:26] <raven> thats eth
[13:26] <raven> thats internet
[13:27] <Kaleo_> SpacedOut: let's give this MR to loicm who wrote qtubuntu :)
[13:27] <Kaleo_> loicm: https://code.launchpad.net/~spacedout/qtubuntu/fix_opengl_sharing/+merge/163466
[13:28] <raven> i plugged in a usb hub
[13:28] <raven> it picked up that
[13:28] <raven> its just not picking up my phone
[13:28] <ogra_> which is weird, it should
[13:28] <mmrazik> Kaleo_: AFAICS its from a non-canonical employee. We don't run (unapproved) code from non-canonical people on our internal infrastructure
[13:29] <Kaleo_> mmrazik: interesting
[13:29] <mmrazik> Kaleo_: actually. Francis commented there
[13:29] <Kaleo_> mmrazik: when it's top approved then we do?
[13:29] <mmrazik> Kaleo_: yes
[13:29] <Kaleo_> mmrazik: nice
[13:30] <Kaleo_> mmrazik: it's not really about canonical/non canonical though right? it's just a matter of team membership no?
[13:30] <mmrazik> Kaleo_: yes
[13:30] <Kaleo_> mmrazik: when a non canonical person is a regular contributor/core developer then the normal process applies
[13:30] <Kaleo_> mmrazik: oki
[13:31] <mmrazik> Kaleo_: pretty much. We don't have any formal process on how to add people but there are some non-canonical ones who can run the ci part
[13:31] <Kaleo_> mmrazik: ok
[13:32] <ogra_> raven, how full is your battery on the phone ... might be that the HW has issues if there isnt enough power
[13:34] <raven> can you help me do this? it wont let me make a file inn this folderhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/34297/galaxy-s-not-detected-how-do-i-make-it-work
[13:35] <raven> 40%
[13:36] <ogra_> raven, the right udev rules are already there (the adb package ships them)
[13:36] <ogra_> your issue is on a lower level, the USB device itself doesnt get recognized
[13:37] <raven> how do i fix it..
[13:37] <raven> WOAH I JUST GOT A POPUP
[13:37] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5683698/
[13:37] <raven> unable to mount SAMSUNG_android
[13:37] <ogra_> thats what dmesg should show
[13:37] <SpacedOut> mterry: The platform abstraction the non-const member function I dropped is loaded only by Qt5, and since the base class only has the const version I don't see how anything else could call it.
[13:37] <raven> Unable to open MTP device '[usb:002,036]'
[13:37] <ogra_> (or something similar at least)
[13:37] <ogra_> raven, great
[13:37] <ogra_> check dmesg, it should show something similar
[13:38] <mterry> SpacedOut, fair enough
[13:39] <raven> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5683709/
[13:39] <ogra_> hmm, thats not right, it recognizes it as USB mass storage
[13:40] <ogra_> that is in CWm recovery mode ?
[13:41] <raven> yes
[13:42] <ogra_> weird, its shoulldnt register as USB storage device at all
[13:46] <raven> :(
[14:07] <raven> helllooo?
[14:17] <davmor2> Yay I'm not the only one having issues I feel vindicated now :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/297355/porting-ubuntu-touch-breakfast-tool
[14:23] <raven> lol
[14:34] <ogra_> raven, did you get it to work yet ?
[14:34] <raven> no
[14:35] <raven> it still says no connect, driver ok
[14:41] <ogra_> raven, on commandline when you try any adb command ?
[14:41] <bfiller> mhall119: ping
[14:42] <raven> ?
[14:42] <raven> no devices
[14:43] <ogra_> did you install the adb package from the archive or from a PPA ?
[14:44] <mhall119> bfiller: pong
[14:45] <raven> from command line
[14:45] <raven> it told me i have to install the command for it to work
[14:45] <ogra_> ok
[14:46] <ogra_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools
[14:46] <ogra_> sudo apt-get update
[14:46] <ogra_> sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb
[14:46] <ogra_> raven, try these three commands
[14:47] <ogra_> reboot your PC and see if it works any better afterwards
[14:48] <raven> ok
[14:49] <raven> Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~phablet-team/+archive/tool) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.
[14:50] <raven> nvm worked now
[14:54] <raven> it worked for a second
[14:54] <raven> then died agian
[14:56] <raven> http://pastebin.com/E5LeBr00
[14:57] <ogra_> there is definitely something wrong ... abd shell doesnt work ?
[14:57] <ogra_> err
[14:57] <raven> ?
[14:57] <ogra_> adb shell
[14:57] <ogra_> try it
[14:57] <raven> device not found
[14:57] <ogra_> hmpf
[14:58] <ogra_> well, there is something wrong with the CWM you use
[14:58] <ogra_> it shouldnt switch into USB mass storage at all in the recovery mode
[14:58] <raven> :/
[14:58] <raven> no way to fix it?
[14:58] <ogra_> (you rebooted your PC after installing adb from the PPA, right ?)
[14:59] <raven> no
[14:59] <ogra_> ah
[14:59] <ogra_> do that :)
[14:59] <ogra_> it installed different udev rules .... to make them take effect a reboot is best
[14:59] <raven> ok
[15:02] <ZDmitry> mhall119: I have MP on the terminal. There are some useful things.
[15:06] <raven> um
[15:06] <raven> ogra
[15:07] <raven> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5683982/
[15:08] <ogra_> did you boot with the phone already attached ?
[15:08] <raven> yes
[15:08] <ogra_> i dont see anything in demsg
[15:08] <ogra_> unplug and re-plug and check dmesg again
[15:10] <adnauseam> hola
[15:10] <adnauseam> most excellent
[15:10]  * adnauseam tips hat
[15:12] <raven> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5683996/
[15:12] <ogra_> ChickenCutlass, just FYI (even though its a public holiday here i played a bit) setting up the android chroot properly in /opt/android and running "chroot /opt/android /init" only gets me a reboot ing device
[15:12] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, ugh
[15:13] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, we may need to modify the init
[15:13] <ogra_> i'll dig in deeper tomorrow ... could be that it is because the device namews are all different
[15:13] <ogra_> since we now run ubuntus udev
[15:13] <ogra_> i also didnt try with a modified ubuntu_chroot yet
[15:14] <raven> me?
[15:14] <ogra_> raven, nope, ChickenCutlass
[15:14] <ogra_> raven, i dont see the device showing up at all in your dmesg
[15:14] <raven> :(
[15:14] <raven> is my phone ruined?
[15:14] <ogra_> nah
[15:15] <ogra_> as long as you get into recovery it isnt ruined
[15:15] <ogra_> worst case you might need an sd card to deploy a zip via sneaker net
[15:15] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, I'm sure we need to modify android init to not start uevents
[15:16] <ChickenCutlass> ueventd
[15:16] <ogra_> oh
[15:16] <ogra_> indeed
[15:16] <ogra_> i didnt think about it trying to fire up ueventd
[15:16] <ogra_> but if we dont run that, udev needs to ship adjusted rules for every phone we support
[15:16] <ogra_> :/
[15:17] <ogra_> to make sure the devices the binary drivers expect actually exist
[15:17] <ogra_> that could get hairy
[15:17] <ogra_> stgraber, would it be possible to have a distint /dev in the android container so we could run udev and ueventd side by side ?
[15:18] <ogra_> *distinct
[15:18] <ogra_> (in lxc that is)
[15:18] <raven> what if i can use a windows machine?
[15:18] <raven> maybe that will work?
[15:19] <ogra_> raven, i have not touched a windows machine in over 10 years ... i wouldnt be of much help
[15:19] <mhall119> bfiller: in the apps.list.chroot file, do I need to specify dependencies too, or will it automatically install anything in a listed package's Depends?
[15:19] <stgraber> ogra_: yes
[15:19] <ogra_> raven, but it might work there, no idea
[15:19] <ogra_> stgraber, with the kernels we use without patches ?
[15:19] <stgraber> ogra_: we typically run udev in the LXC containers on Ubuntu
[15:19] <ogra_> as a second instance ?
[15:20] <ogra_> hmm, if that would work that could solve our issue
[15:20] <raven> well.. i have  an issue with my vmware
[15:20] <ogra_> i'll try that tomorrow then
[15:20] <stgraber> ogra_: the LXC container can't see processes or really much anything outside of it, so you actually need to have it run udev (or ueventd) if you want the /dev entries to be dynamically created
[15:21] <raven> it says im missing kernal headers 3.8.0-21-generic but when i i click browse and tell it where it is it doesnt accept them
[15:21] <ogra_> raven, well, a VMM wont give you proper USB access i guess, so you should run whatever you use to access the phone via adb natively
[15:21] <bfiller> mhall119: will automatically pull in the deps
[15:21] <ogra_> stgraber, awesome !
[15:21] <ogra_> ChickenCutlass, ^^^ so there is hope :)
[15:21] <mhall119> bfiller: and it will use the CoreApps PPA? or do you need to copy the packages from there to some other archive?
[15:22] <ogra_> (but we'll need LXC)
[15:22] <bfiller> mhall119: at least for the current raring builds, it will pull from the core-apps ppa. Not sure about saucy, ogra_ would know
[15:22] <stgraber> ogra_: anyway, get me a nexus 7 or nexus 4 image that boots me straight into a basic Ubuntu rootfs and I'll test that stuff for you and even fix anything we need and is missing in upstream LXC ;)
[15:23] <ogra_> bfiller, mhall119, suacy does that too atm, but wont be able to for final release unless someone convinces the TB to change policy
[15:23] <ogra_> stgraber, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/ try that
[15:24] <ogra_> stgraber, replacing the boot.img via fastboot, booting into recovery and extracting the adbd.tgz in /data/ubuntu should theoretically get you going
[15:24] <mhall119> ogra_: we're working on adding autopilot tests and automatically running them for all the CoreApps, we should be able to use the same release process as the rest of Ubuntu for saucy
[15:25] <ogra_> mhall119, great, but we need them in the archive eventually ... the technical board forbids to have pre-enabled PPAs in official images
[15:25] <stgraber> ogra_: cool, will try that in a few minutes
[15:25] <mhall119> ogra_: we can probably accomplish that too
[15:25] <ogra_> stgraber, i hope it works, i havent gotten any feedback from testers yet
[15:25] <ogra_> (i know it works on a gnex)
[15:26] <ogra_> mhall119, that would be perfect ...
[15:26] <ogra_> (alternatively you could try to convince the TB to change policy ... but that was tried before and didnt work)
[15:28] <davmor2> ogra_: once you get ut on a phone is there a way to update it or is it a case of rebuilding an image each time?
[15:28] <ogra_> stgraber,  for the android side you will need to pull the cdimage boot.img, use abootimg -x on it and abootimg-unpack-initrd to get the contents
[15:29] <ogra_> davmor2, as long as the platform-api and hybris bits dont change on either side you should be safe to dist-upgrade
[15:29] <davmor2> ogra_: is that via adb shell and ubuntu chroot?
[15:33] <ogra_> davmor2, right
[15:33] <davmor2> ogra_: thanks
[15:37] <Gregor_> hi guys! Is int the actual ubuntu touch image a music app already included?
[15:37] <Gregor_> (playing .ogg etc..)
[15:40] <mhall119> Gregor_: no, there's a mock app entry for Music
[15:41] <pmcgowan> Gregor_, no music app yet, there is a dev working on one
[15:41] <mhall119> but it doesn't do anything except show a screen mockup
[15:41] <mhall119> Gregor_: if you are interested in helping make one, we're going to add Music to the Core Apps project
[15:42] <Gregor_> ah, maybe i will start developing for ubuntu touch
[15:42] <mhall119> Gregor_: there is already one being worked on: https://plus.google.com/u/0/111187269999254215543/posts/iBnVRThFctB
[15:42] <Gregor_> I will go to holidays tomorrow, but i want to help with it
[15:42] <mhall119> if you want to contribute to it
[15:42] <Gregor_> yeah ;)
[15:43] <mhall119> Gregor_: send me an email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and I'll get you on our list
[15:43] <Gregor_> I am working with launchpad since some years, but I didn't start with u touch yet
[15:45] <Gregor_> Sent.
[15:45] <Gregor_> :)
[15:45] <mhall119> thanks Gregor_
[15:48] <mhall119> is there a way to record a screencast from a device?
[15:50] <user82> awe_, hello. did you say that 3g might be working next wekk?
[15:52] <awe_> user82, yes...  end-of-next-week is the target.  FYI, as the indicators/settings UI won't be finished, it'll require manual configuration
[15:53] <awe_> we may just modify phablet-deploy-networking
[15:56] <Gregor_> Are there any recommendations for start developing qt/qml applications? I know much about c++/c#/java and very few javascript/html5
[15:58] <awe_> Gregor_, http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/
[15:59] <Gregor_> awe_ ty, is there any kind of pdf, or something i can take with me easily?
[16:00] <awe_> mhall119, ^^
[16:01] <stgraber> ogra_: appears to be stuck in a reboot loop on grouper
[16:02] <awe_> Gregor_, not sure, it's not really my area...
[16:02] <awe_> might be a good questions for the mailing list
[16:02] <rickspencer3> I got a Nexus4, do I need to charge it fully before I flash it?
[16:03] <awe_> rickspencer3, always a good idea
[16:03] <rickspencer3> rats
[16:03] <awe_> especially as the nexus4 seems a little more finicky with respect to battery charging
[16:03] <rickspencer3> thanks awe
[16:03] <awe_> np
[16:22] <bobweaver> Hello there awesome people. I have searched high and low on xda looking for a way to daul boot Ubuntu Touch on my nexus 4. I can not find anything that is useful. Have any of you been able top dual boot the nexus 4 ?
[16:23] <niel> I dont think phones have that capability
[16:23] <cking> stupid question, but are there any saucy images for nexus 4 available?   phablet-flash  is picking up raring ones for me
[16:23] <mhall119> cking: not yet
[16:23] <bobweaver> cking,  yeah but I would not use
[16:23] <bobweaver> there incd.images.ubuntu
[16:24] <cking> ok, any idea if/when they will be available (apart from sometime real soon ;-)
[16:24] <bobweaver> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[16:24] <awe_> cking, there's an ongoing discussion about this now...
[16:24] <bobweaver> I would stay away from them for a week or two
[16:24] <cking> how timely :-)
[16:24] <cking> ta
[16:24] <bobweaver> I think that raring is best bet atm
[16:24] <cking> ok, thanks for the info, much appreciated
[16:24] <awe_> np
[16:24] <niel> Im just waiting for the dedicated Ubuntu phone
[16:25] <bobweaver> Gregor_,  if you like You could make qch docs for the sdk
[16:25]  * bobweaver wants multirom to wok on n4 :(
[16:27] <stgraber> ogra_: on n4 I just appear to get stuck on the boot screen
[16:30] <bobweaver> mhall119,  have you ever tried to use qt.window 5.0  ?  I am finding it to be flipping awesome
[16:30] <mhall119> no, what does it do?
[16:30] <niel> I wish we had an eta on the release date
[16:30] <bobweaver> a lot
[16:30] <bobweaver> mhall119,  let me paste some code
[16:31] <mhall119> bobweaver: in a meeting atm, but I'll check it later
[16:31] <bobweaver> kah http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684270/
[16:31] <bobweaver> look at root.width/height
[16:32] <bobweaver> dont know why the gu i not using that
[16:36]  * bobweaver says back to hacking myth tv frontend
[16:39] <niel> on the ubuntu website they make it seem like there is a stable release of the phone
[16:42] <user82> awe_, so mid june will be fully functional state?
[16:43] <niel> Isnt it supposed to come with a dedicated phone?
[16:44] <mhall119> niel: currently there are no phones made specifically for Ubuntu Touch
[16:44] <awe_> user82, that's not a question I can answer
[16:44] <niel> but there will be right when the official release comes out?
[16:44] <bobweaver> I thought that canonical was in the software bees-knees not the hardware and that they just work with oems am I wrong ?
[16:44] <user82> allright thanks awe_
[16:45] <mhall119> niel: the official release of the software, and the release of any hardware, may be separate events
[16:46] <bobweaver> How to send a signal in qml on a Custom Element ?  example I am making buttons. I want to have a alias to the button for MouseArea.onClicked
[16:47] <bobweaver> example http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684316/
[16:47] <niel> im just holding off on getting a new phone
[16:48] <bobweaver> I need to figure out why it is not gaining focus on keyboardNav and also why I can not send a new clicked signal
[16:49] <bobweaver> I have tried the whole             if (activeFocus [16:49] <mhall119> bobweaver: you define it as a method
[16:49] <mhall119> signal itemClicked(var model)
[16:49] <mhall119> on an Item
[16:49] <mhall119> then you can call itemClicked(foo) to trigger the signal
[16:49] <mhall119> and then onItemClicked callback handlers will get foo
[16:50] <bobweaver> I see says the blind man. what about activefocus ?
[16:50] <bobweaver> for when the app is running on desktop
[16:50] <mhall119> you just want to respond to focus changing?
[16:51] <mhall119> FYI: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mhall119/+junk/uReadIt/view/head:/SubredditListView.qml is an example of a signal I made
[16:51] <mhall119> line 9 defines it, line 60 triggers it
[16:52] <bobweaver> correct like when the keyboard navagation is changed
[16:52] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684326/
[16:52] <bobweaver> in this chase it would be MButton
[16:53] <bobweaver> I want the button to change states and get bigger when focused
[17:37] <rickspencer3> Nexus 4 is charged ...
[17:37]  * rickspencer3 goes to install ubuntu-touch :)
[17:45] <sil2100> robru: ping
[17:47] <Dummies_freelanc> hello
[17:49] <Dummies_freelanc> i want build one app in 32" tv how can use the multitouch in the environmet of my app and dont in all system?
[17:49] <Dummies_freelanc> i  want use sencha  and rails maybe
[18:00] <Dummies_freelanc> can helpme?
[18:08] <synergenerator> anyone try this Palm Touchstone mod for inductive charging on a Galaxy Nexus? http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus-accessories/147840-guide-galaxy-nexus-mod-palm-touchstone-no-soldering-phone.html
[18:23] <alo21> hi all... I required a sync for alsa-plugins, but I got a comment about it, which I didn't understand very well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-plugins/+bug/1181384/comments/1
[18:23] <alo21> can someone help me on understanding why they decided to do not sync the package?
[18:38] <alo21> is there someone?
[18:39] <pmcgowan> alo21, you have a question?
[18:41] <alo21> pmcgowan, oh...sorry I switched the channel involuntarily
[19:01] <mhall119> irc-ing via my nexus 7, thanks to the awesome terminal app and irssi over ssh!
[19:11] <rickspencer3> \o/
[19:11]  * rickspencer3 is rocking ubuntutouch on nexus 4!
[19:11] <mhall119> rickspencer3: have you tried the terminal on the Nexus 4?
[19:11] <mhall119> I'm curious how well it works on a smaller screen
[19:11] <jono> mhall119, which LP project is weather?
[19:11] <rickspencer3> mhall119, not yet, no
[19:11] <rickspencer3> after lunch I plan to try out some of my apps, though :)
[19:11] <jono> rickspencer3, man, the terminal is *rocking*
[19:11] <mhall119> jono: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/
[19:12] <jono> really neat interactions
[19:12] <jono> thanks mhall119
[19:12] <mhall119> np
[19:12] <mhall119> navigating on the shell with swipes and taps is incredibly simple and surprisingly intuitive
[19:13] <jono> mhall119, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1182188 :-)
[19:13] <mhall119> jono: yeah, I think they had planned on using geoip to determine the right unit
[19:13] <mhall119> well, using location, not necessarily just geoip
[19:13] <jono> cool
[19:14] <mhall119> might be good to have a setting anyway
[19:14] <mhall119> and Kelvin, for the nerds :)
[19:14] <jono> rickspencer3, https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/1179596
[19:15] <jono> I added that bug to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BaconDogfood
[19:22] <mhall119> pmcgowan: ping
[19:22] <pmcgowan> hey mhall119
[19:22] <mhall119> pmcgowan: hi, do you know if there is a set of feature requirements for a default music player on Ubuntu Touch?
[19:23] <mhall119> We would like to add this to our list of Core Apps and start recruiting some developers
[19:23] <mhall119> there's recently been a significant amount of interest in music app development in the community
[19:23] <pmcgowan> mhall119, I would expect some of that to come from Lina
[19:24] <mhall119> is she working on designs/UX specs for it already?
[19:25] <pmcgowan> mhall119, yes
[19:26] <pmcgowan> mhall119, but I have not see any yet
[19:27] <pmcgowan> mhall119, that email looks like it just came to me (re the file manager)
[19:28] <mhall119> pmcgowan: that's Launchpad's way of doing it
[19:28] <bfiller> rsalveti: what's the command to setup correct timezone again?
[19:28] <mhall119> everybody got one that looks like it went only to them :(
[19:29] <rsalveti> bfiller: udo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[19:29] <bfiller> rsalveti: thanks
[19:29] <rsalveti> *sudo
[19:30] <mhall119> bfiller: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Timezone for future reference
[19:30] <mhall119> also, is somebody making sure the Known Issues section on that page is being updated?
[19:30] <bfiller> rsalveti: anyway this can be done automatically through ofono when it connects to cellular network?
[19:31] <bfiller> mhall119: thanks
[19:32] <rsalveti> bfiller: we discussed a bit a while ago, and the result is that we'd need some sort of service taking care of time in general
[19:32] <rsalveti> either the indicator or a service itself
[19:32] <rsalveti> as the timezone value we get from ofono doesn't actually say which timezone you're in, it just give you the int offset
[19:32] <bfiller> rsalveti: offset from what, utc?
[19:33] <rsalveti> so the time service would need to try to guess from it on-line (ntp), and if not try a best guess with ofono
[19:33] <rsalveti> bfiller: yup
[19:33] <rsalveti> currently the time api is not exported via ofono, but I can make that public, we'd just need someone to consume it
[19:34] <rsalveti> I think renato_ was looking at that before, but don't remember if we decided anything there
[19:35] <rsalveti> bfiller: I'll check how that can be done and write some notes at least, so we make sure we're taking care of this later on
[19:35] <rickspencer3> jono, yeah, so we talked about this
[19:36] <rickspencer3> the problem is that if we don't use an iPhone/Safari string, must apps will just send their desktop HTML
[19:37] <mhall119> what does Android use?
[19:39] <sergiusens> mhall119: if it's regarding the UA string, you will get the same behavior but instead to install apps from google play iirc
[19:39] <mhall119> ugh, so the every mobile-web enabled site has individually taylored itself to Android and iOS?
[19:39] <mhall119> :(
[19:41] <mhall119> is there some popular framework to do this that we could target for adding Ubuntu support, or does everybody pretty much roll their own?
[19:42] <JoseeAntonioR> sergiusens: hey, I sent you a couple PMs in case you're still interested in OpenWeek
[19:43] <sergiusens> JoseeAntonioR: it's tomorrow right?
[19:43] <JoseeAntonioR> sergiusens: yep, only slot left is 13 UTC
[19:44] <sergiusens> JoseeAntonioR: what did I have to prepare?
[19:45] <JoseeAntonioR> sergiusens: it's basically a 1h session on IRC where you explain people how to contribute to the touch team, maybe you can say something like 'you can contribute to porting the code this way...' and so on
[19:46] <sergiusens> JoseeAntonioR: ok, so if there is no other time, I'll do that one
[19:46] <sergiusens> rsalveti: in case you want to join in ^^
[19:46] <JoseeAntonioR> sergiusens: great, thanks! make sure to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/ClassBot for instructions :)
[19:46] <rsalveti> sergiusens: sure
[19:47] <rsalveti> I can help as well if you want
[19:47] <JoseeAntonioR> rsalveti: I'll list you as helper so you get voice, just in case
[19:48] <rsalveti> JoseeAntonioR: cool, thanks
[19:48] <JoseeAntonioR> thanks to you guys :)
[19:48] <sergiusens> rsalveti: beware... it's early ;-)
[19:48] <rsalveti> sure :-)
[19:48] <rsalveti> I'm getting used to utc-3 again
[19:49] <user82> awe_, are you the only person working on 3g data?
[19:50] <awe_> user82, why do you ask?
[19:51] <user82> awe_, a short while ago they announced a usable image (incl 3g) by end of may. does not really sound like they asked you before. not a problem for me but i think they dared a lot with that promise?
[19:52] <sergiusens> user82: 3g or _data_?
[19:52] <awe_> user82, I can't really comment on schedules...
[19:52] <user82> 3g data sergiusens
[19:52] <sergiusens> user82: where?
[19:52]  * awe_ goes back to coding
[19:53] <user82> http://theravingrick.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/woof-woof.html sergiusens
[19:53] <mhall119> user82: it wasn't so much a promise as a goal, and yet it was daring and ambitious, but I think we can achieve it
[19:53] <user82> I know it was a wish but i was kind of hoping for it to happen :)
[19:54] <user82> okay allright...just wanted to know so far. good luck with succeeding
[19:54] <mhall119> user82: we still have 10 days left :)
[19:54] <rsalveti> we're trying :-)
[19:54] <rsalveti> yeah, 2 weeks
[19:54] <mhall119> rsalveti: any idea what's going on with the HUD on raring images, and when it'll be fixed?
[19:55] <user82> allright...but i hope you understand i do not dare to go out in the wild and dangerous world without 3g internet ;)
[19:55] <rsalveti> mhall119: sergiusens, bfiller^?
[19:55] <sergiusens> mhall119: what do you mean?
[19:55] <rsalveti> sergiusens: hud is useless with latest image
[19:55] <rsalveti> not showing any options, not even in gallery
[19:55] <sergiusens> user82: it's not targetted for end users yet in any case
[19:56] <user82> yep sure..i dont blame anyone if my phone explodes i know ;)
[19:56] <pmcgowan> mhall119, your desktop fix is not sufficient, need to use qmlscene in the exec
[19:56] <mhall119> oh right, I forgot I had to change that too
[19:58] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I haven't noticed... let me check
[19:58] <pmcgowan> mhall119, its pretty good
[20:03] <rickspencer3> anyone know why I would get this error when I try to run an app on my phone (from QtCreator) that uses QtMultimedia?
[20:03] <rickspencer3> qmlscene: aalmediaplayerservice.cpp:130: bool AalMediaPlayerService::newMediaPlayer(): Assertion `m_videoOutput != __null' failed.
[20:09] <sergiusens> mhall119: rsalveti since when is it broken? It might be this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/phablet/revision/654
[20:09] <sergiusens> is there a bug open?
[20:10] <sergiusens> boiko: bfiller telepathy-ofono2 and ofono-qt are in, but they are in _release commit_ mode
[20:10] <rickspencer3> pmcgowan, mhall119 where do I report an sdk bug?
[20:10] <rickspencer3> (at least I think it's SDK)
[20:11] <bfiller> sergiusens: what does that mean?
[20:11] <rsalveti> sergiusens: I noticed a few minutes before mhall119 asked, so no bugs yet
[20:11] <pmcgowan> there is an ui-toolkit project let me find it
[20:11] <rickspencer3> i.e. which project on lp?
[20:11] <rsalveti> didn't test it again with friday's image
[20:11] <pmcgowan> rickspencer3, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[20:11] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I have friday's on my tablet
[20:11] <sergiusens> bfiller: means changelog bumps
[20:11] <rsalveti> sergiusens: does it work?
[20:12] <rickspencer3> pmcgowan, that doesn't look quite right my error from above
[20:12] <rickspencer3> qmlscene: aalmediaplayerservice.cpp:130: bool AalMediaPlayerService::newMediaPlayer(): Assertion `m_videoOutput != __null' failed.
[20:12] <pmcgowan> oh
[20:12] <bfiller> sergiusens: so we need to bump changelog like before?
[20:12] <mhall119> pmcgowan: I updated my branch
[20:12] <pmcgowan> rickspencer3, that looks familiar jhodapp ^^
[20:13] <pmcgowan> mhall119, MR?
[20:13] <bfiller> pmcgowan, rickspencer3 : there is an MR to fix that outstanding I believe
[20:13] <jhodapp> pmcgowan, rickspencer3, yes I'm about to review an MR that should take care of that assert
[20:13] <sergiusens> bfiller: yes (as it lands in phablet-team)
[20:13] <rickspencer3> k
[20:13] <bfiller> sergiusens: cool, thanks
[20:13] <sergiusens> bfiller: can't do daily-release if the MR is in phablet-extras
[20:14] <mhall119> pmcgowan: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix-desktop-entry/+merge/164757
[20:22] <sergiusens> rsalveti: hud is also broken from Friday
[20:22] <rsalveti> sergiusens: we need a test case for that
[20:23] <sergiusens> rsalveti: adding one
[20:24] <rsalveti> sergiusens: cool, thanks
[20:24] <rsalveti> sergiusens: want to create the bug? I can confirm
[20:24] <bfiller> sergiusens: so I need to bump changelog to get initial versions of packages into ppa?
[20:25] <sergiusens> bfiller: well, I can get them in manually triggering, let me check theu're debian/changelog and make it happen
[20:25] <sergiusens> rsalveti: ack
[20:25] <bfiller> sergiusens: thanks
[20:25] <pmcgowan> mhall119, ok for me to approve that MR?
[20:26] <mhall119> pmcgowan: okay by me
[20:27] <sergiusens> bfiller: new thought, I'm going to do a release MR just to see if the system is working
[20:28] <bfiller> sergiusens: I'll happrove
[20:31] <mhall119> pmcgowan: once the new package for filemanager is built, https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/touch-preview-images/more-coreapps/+merge/164802 is ready to go to get it (and the latest terminal) into the daily images
[20:33] <rickspencer3> mhall119, are there any tutorials on scaling?
[20:33] <rickspencer3> I ask because I just started working on a game
[20:33] <rickspencer3> and I need to control the dimensions and such
[20:34] <mhall119> rickspencer3: only the document on using grid units
[20:34] <rickspencer3> mhall119, do you have a link handy?
[20:34] <mhall119> rickspencer3: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/resolution-independence.html
[20:34] <rickspencer3> thanks
[20:34]  * rickspencer3 looks
[20:34] <mhall119> np
[20:37] <bfiller> sergiusens: is there an options to phablet-flash to not have it restore my home dir? basically a clean option
[20:41] <mhall119> bfiller: has anybody done a code review on the terminal and file manager branches yet?
[20:41] <mhall119> I know you had people doing with for the "4-Cs"
[20:41] <bfiller> mhall119: no, on the 4c's for now
[20:42] <bfiller> only
[20:42] <mhall119> bfiller: can you spare one or two to look over these new ones?
[20:42] <mhall119> they each have a QML app and a C++ plugin
[20:42] <pmcgowan> rickspencer3, jono do either of you have a url that offered an iphone app to us, trying a new string
[20:43] <bfiller> mhall119: probably not in the next 2 weeks, plates very full for dogfooding release
[20:43] <rickspencer3> pmcgowan, mail.google.com ?
[20:43] <jono> pmcgowan, gmail
[20:43] <jono> pmcgowan, and I think yelp too
[20:43] <bfiller> pmcgowan: beware of user agent strings, really need to test multiple sites and compare outputs
[20:44] <bfiller> we spent a lot of time on this
[20:44] <pmcgowan> bfiller, right doing that, copying what BB does
[20:44] <sergiusens> bfiller: do it with -b
[20:44] <szymon_w> hello! Could someone point me to website/tutorial on how to install apps on ubuntu touch  please ?
[20:44] <bfiller> sergiusens: thanks
[20:46] <swordfish> Hello everyone!... Yesterday I published a minesweeper remake on launchpad. The game is coming along nicely, but i would like to talk to someone who can help me with the colors and the overall design of the app... Thank you :D ...
[20:46] <mhall119> szymon_w: currently there's no simple way to install apps, you need to use apt-get or dpkg on the shell
[20:46] <mhall119> swordfish: do you have a link to the project?
[20:47] <mhall119> swordfish: of add it yourself to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Collection please
[20:47] <swordfish> of course sorry: https://launchpad.net/minesweeper-touch
[20:47] <mhall119> thanks
[20:48] <swordfish> A guy has already made a video showing the game http://www.iloveubuntu.net/minesweeper-touch-recreates-classic-minesweeper-ubuntu-sdk-based-experience
[20:48] <szymon_w> mhall119,  thanks, it looks like I'm doing something wrong... I do:  adb shell and then when I try to use apt-get I get this: /system/bin/sh: apt-get: not found
[20:49] <user82> swordfish, just asking: do you think that will be big enough to tap on a phone screen
[20:50] <swordfish> No... I haven't tested it on a phone for now... It is just the first release...
[20:50] <mhall119> szymon_w: you need to run "ubuntu_chroot shell" after "adb shell"
[20:52] <szymon_w> mhall119,  this is a output: chroot: can't change root directory to '/data/ubuntu': Operation not permitted
[20:53] <mhall119> szymon_w: did you run "adb root" before you ran "adb shell"?
[20:55] <szymon_w> mhall119,  thank you. "adb root" solved a problem. Is there ppa added to the system so I can install latest version of the apps without adding ppa ?
[20:56] <mhall119> swordfish: did you know you can bootstrap the packaging from QtCreator, go to "Build->Ubuntu Touch->Build Application Package"
[20:56] <mhall119> szymon_w: no, you'll need to add the core apps and collections PPAs
[20:57] <mhall119> ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily and ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/collection
[20:57] <swordfish> mhall119: no i didn't :D ...
[20:57] <jhodapp> boiko, just approved your MR to qtubuntu-media
[20:57] <boiko> jhodapp: thanks!
[20:57] <szymon_w> mhall119, thank you for your help!
[20:58] <jhodapp> boiko, did you get a chance to see if this MR breaks anything with the ringtones? https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/phablet-extras/libhybris-fix-playlist-skipping/+merge/164774
[20:59] <mhall119> szymon_w: np
[20:59] <swordfish> mhall119: thank you... Now I've compiled the package
[21:00] <swordfish> mhall119: By the way, in your opinion: I want to create a page with settings should i create it as a tab or as setting in the lower bar?
[21:01] <mhall119> swordfish: lots of apps are already using a Settings tab
[21:01] <mhall119> FYI, there's going to be a unified way of storing app settings coming soon to the SDK, which might change the way we display them to the user
[21:03] <swordfish> mhall119: I saw the settings tabs, but in the guidelines it's written that tabs should have the same importance, so I had a doubt... And about the colors of the button in the minefield what do you suggest?
[21:04] <swordfish> mhall119: ok i was expecting some breakages since it's so early... BTW thank you...
[21:04] <mhall119> swordfish: I'm partial to aburgine and orange for some reason ;)
[21:04] <mhall119> http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/colour-palette has the official branch color codes
[21:04] <jhodapp> boiko, this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/phablet-extras/libhybris-fix-playlist-skipping/+merge/164774
[21:04] <mhall119> swordfish: I'm always happy to help app developers :)
[21:05] <jhodapp> boiko, just added you as a reviewer to it
[21:05] <boiko> jhodapp: ah yes, I built it but forgot to test, let me test it now
[21:05] <jhodapp> boiko, cool thanks, once you test it and approve I'll top approve
[21:05] <swordfish> mhall119: ok... I will make some test with the colors in the palette and the setting tab!... Thank you again!...
[21:13] <boiko> jhodapp: approved
[21:13] <jhodapp> boiko, awesome, thanks
[21:13] <boiko> jhodapp: np
[21:20] <nik90> swordfish: looks amazing. nice work.
[21:27] <davmor2> hey guys I keep hitting this can someone help me with why please http://paste.ubuntu.com/5685106/
[21:27] <davmor2> I'm in the brunch crespo phase
[21:50] <swordfish> nik90, thank you very much! :D
[22:45] <szymon_w> mhall119,  how do you push files to ubuntu touch ? ( I'm trying to install application from .deb but when I use "adb push /dir/to/app.deb /sdcard/app.deb" its saved on device but then I can't find it after I use "ubuntu_chroot shell"  ? )
[23:28] <mhall119> szymon_w: you can run them on the device from QtCreator
[23:28] <mhall119> otherwise you can put the device into developer mode and copy them over ssh
[23:29] <mhall119> I don't know how to do it via adb
[23:44] <szymon_w> mhall119, ok thanks I will try it out...
[23:54] <yellowstreetlamp> I tried to flash install ubuntu to my nexus 4 and got to the end and it doesn't seem to have worked.  I'm not sure where I went wrong.  Any help?  From bootloader I can start and the "Google" sign appears but the phone turns off thereafter since there is no Android system on it.  I can go into recovery mode and a menu comes up with an ubuntu logo but the menu options appear to go no where.  Any suggestions of what went


[14:47] <toan_> I got an error while building wireshark for precise, the error is: Note, selecting 'libcap-dev' instead of 'libcap2-dev'; how can I edit the control file to auto substitue if libcap2-dev is not available
[14:48] <toan_> ref: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/234722696/buildlog.txt.gz
[14:51] <cjwatson> toan_: that is not the error
[14:51] <cjwatson> E: Build-Depends dependency for wireshark cannot be satisfied because the package libsbc-dev cannot be found
[14:51] <cjwatson> toan_: ^- that is the error
[14:52] <cjwatson> toan_: you can say "libsbc-dev | some-other-package" in Build-Depends
[14:52] <toan_> cjwatson, how would i be able to fix that for precise?
[14:52] <toan_> gotcha
[14:52] <cjwatson> toan_: if it's literally just "and ignore it if it doesn't exist", then you could do something like "libsbc-dev | base-files"
[14:53] <toan_> cjwatson, that's a good trick,
[14:55] <toan_> cjwatson, ** stupid question ***, but why doesn't ubuntu create a jailed root environment for each dist/arch, with built in cross compilers so that people like me can cross build locally, instead having to rely on the automated build system
[14:56] <toan_> something like pbuilder but for different dist/arch.
[14:58] <cjwatson> toan_: You mean like "mk-sbuild --target <other architecture>"?
[14:58] <cjwatson> toan_: Lots of build systems get cross-building wrong, though, and it requires careful setup of packaging metadata.  It's an ongoing project.
[14:58] <toan_> i've never used mk-sbuild before; but the idea is being able to do cross and cross native builds
[14:58] <cjwatson> Well, you can do that in many cases.
[14:59] <cjwatson> I think I pointed you at the SimpleSbuild wiki page before, and it's a variation on that.
[14:59] <toan_> IC, i'll look into it...
[15:02] <cjwatson> In fact, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild even briefly documents this (albeit under the "ARM" section) and links to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CrossBuilding for more.
[15:05] <toan_> cjwatson, ** if there's no LP's build system, that's how I would setup my system for different targets....
[15:06] <toan_> cjwatson, on another note, Ubuntu has been packaging enlightenment windows manager version e17 or so, that's really old... and obsolete... it lacks so much features... what does it take for ubuntu to consider packaging e20?
[15:07] <toan_> when i say packaging, i mean to for ubuntu to supply e20 as a default install
[15:10] <cjwatson> toan_: No idea, I have nothing to do with that stuff.
[15:10] <toan_> the reason i am asking because I use/test/fix the mainstream version of e20 everyday; i would like it be used by more people to help out w/ the process
[15:10] <toan_> OK!
[15:11] <cjwatson> I hear there is a bug reporting system though. :-)
[15:11] <toan_> cjwatson, yeah, phab!  it is a very good system.
[15:12] <cjwatson> I was kind of thinking of the Ubuntu one, hosted on Launchpad. :-P
[15:12] <toan_> the only time i use LP to report a bug is when there's a kernel bug, other than that, i normally go directly to the developer..
[15:12] <cjwatson> Which is where you report problems with Ubuntu.
[15:12] <toan_> LP=LP is
[15:40] <dobey> toan_: e17 is just synced from debian, so you probably want to get in contact with debian devs and get things updated there; then it can just be synced to ubuntu
[15:43] <toan_> dobey, thanks
[16:09] <andyrock> https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/unity/unity-sn/+merge/283322
[16:09] <andyrock> in this MP lp fails to properly take a branch as a prerequisite
[16:09] <andyrock> someone knows why?
[16:12] <cjwatson> andyrock: the list of unmerged commits looks right to me; can you explain exactly what you think is wrong?
[16:15] <cjwatson> ah, I see, the diff is rather longer than it ought to be
[16:17] <cjwatson> andyrock: (experimenting locally)
[16:36] <cjwatson> andyrock: Right, so you last merged the prerequisite branch a little while ago, when its last common ancestor with lp:unity was the revision<EMAIL_ADDRESS>since then, the prereq branch has had newer trunk revisions merged into it, but I think the criss-cross merging is confusing the least common ancestor algorithm in use by LP and it still thinks that that same revision is the LCA even given that ...
[16:36] <cjwatson> ... prereq branch
[16:44] <cjwatson> andyrock: I would suggest that you try "bzr merge lp:~3v1n0/unity/launcher-filemanager-integration", resolve conflicts, commit, and push; I think that may work around it.  If not, then I would suggest reconstructing your branch by branching from the launcher-filemanager-integration branch directly and adding your commit on top, rather than by branching lp:unity and then merging that branch
[20:32] <andyrock> cjwatson: thanks!