[14:04] <clone1110> thanks
[14:04] <clone1110> how to go there...
[14:05] <Pici> clone1110: /join ##security
[14:05] <clone1110> yup there
[14:06] <Symphonym> trijntje Yea, I can conform this behaviour, just got another 300+ ping spike of 10'ish packets, now back to 0.4-0.8
[14:06] <clone1110> thanks
[14:06] <trijntje> Symphonym, ok, so the problem is indeed with your wifi. Not sure how to fix that though, can you be closer to the wifi acces point?
[14:07] <Symphonym> trijntje I'm fairly close to my WiFi, roughly 5 meters. Although this behaviour seems to happen on a fairly constant basis, and to make things clear; this behaviour did not exist in 13.10.
[14:07] <user1345> testdr: started qemu . what should it do. its showing some numbers with boch bochs
[14:16] <sydney> Ok,i have been having some graphics card issues lately.I am using proprietary driver 304. If i roll back to 173,then reinstall 304,will htat fix some of my problems?
[14:18] <Guest48378> Symphonym, (constant basis = "scheduled" appearance?) I'd search the culprit with a network monitoring tool (some incoming/outgoing service like mail, "hidden" reporting/updating tools and the like). - Also I'd check my network environment for machines with a changed traffic profile (all traffic goes through one point and bandwith is shared)
[14:19] <sydney> My screen has lines when i resume from standby sometimes,and sometimes the resolution is off.
[14:19] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Now that you mention it, these spikes feel a bit too regular. Might actually be something I'm unaware of that performs some expensive internet scan, any simple monitoring tool you can recommend?
[14:20] <hebz0rl> hi im managing a large thinclient system and wanted to collect apport crash reports and was wondering what the best way would be to do so.
[14:22] <Guest48378> Symphonym, an overview => http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/123515.aspx
[14:23] <Guest48378> Symphonym, I'd take a little time and go with WireShark.
[14:23] <Symphonym> Guest48378 I'm trying out Wireshark, will report what I find.
[14:25] <nexa3> hello
[14:25] <nexa3> how r u?
[14:25] <sydney> Hi!! Great!!
[14:25] <sydney> Anyone have anything for me to try?
[14:28] <Symphonym> Guest48378 I only seem to be able to capture traffic from bluetooth, which I doubt is the problem in this case.
[14:29] <newbee> hi
[14:30] <Guest48378> Symphonym, there is also Kismet as a dedicated WIreless Packet Sniffer (Also there is good online documentation for configuring your machine and Wireshark for wireless). - On the other hand you could use simplier methods.
[14:31] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Fair enough, but I believe I solved the issue with Wireshark not listing enough interfaces; did not run it in superuser mode
[14:31] <orbisvicis> how do I unmount without removing the device nodes
[14:32] <Guest48378> Symphonym, all good then ... ;)
[14:32] <orbisvicis> for example, usb-device/partition1 is automounted when I plug it in, but when I unmount it the respective /dev/usb-device-partition-1 block file is removed
[14:32] <orbisvicis> so I can no longer use gparted to say... resize it
[14:34] <vlt> orbisvicis: umount
[14:35] <vlt> orbisvicis: `umount /dev/usb-device-partition-1` or `umount /media/you/something`
[14:37] <orbisvicis> vlt: yes thats what I mean, after "umount /dev/usb-device-partition-1" "/dev/usb-device-partition-1" no longer exists
[14:38] <shunya_chakra> is ubuntu got different gnome?
[14:38] <ldiamond> By default ubuntu has Unity
[14:38] <nexa3> how are you all
[14:39] <ldiamond> you can install gnome, lxde, xfce, kde, openbox, etc in its place.
[14:39] <orbisvicis> shunya_chakra: slightly yes. some control panel options are different. not sure if just older version, or custom ubuntu-gnome patches. and the default app list has been ubuntified.
[14:39] <nexa3> does anybody interest in football world cup?
[14:39] <bcvery> !ot | nexa3
[14:40] <shunya_chakra> ldiamond, orbisvicis, i think last month i read .. there ubuntu gnome... and it' maintained by ... ubuntu
[14:40] <shunya_chakra> is it different from our main gnome
[14:40] <nexa3> i think it is different
[14:41] <shunya_chakra> nexa3, hm, so if i install gnome which will i get ubuntu gnome or main gnome?
[14:41] <ldiamond> shunya_chakra, mint created their own fork of gnome to look like gnome 2
[14:41] <orbisvicis> the ubuntu gnome packages are provided by ubuntu maintainers, but the ubuntu-gnome derivative isn't
[14:41] <phunyguy> shunya_chakra, depends on if you apt-get install ubuntu-gnome or gnome-shell
[14:42] <ldiamond> shunya_chakra, on ubuntu you have gnome-panel (or a new name now maybe)
[14:42] <nexa3> i don't install it yet
[14:42] <phunyguy> it is the same as installing xubuntu-desktop, or xfce4
[14:42] <phunyguy> you get ubuntu branded, or stock.
[14:42] <nexa3> but i heard that from a friend
[14:42] <Guest48378> Symphonym, even more tools for you => http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[14:43] <shunya_chakra> I think it's better to stay at Unity! :) lot of desktop enviornmet
[14:44] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Thanks, although with Wireshark I'm not sure I'm seeing these spikes. All packets have a constant delta time between them :/
[14:44] <linux_> Забавно
[14:45] <linux_> Думал ирка вымерла вместе с аськой
[14:45] <vlt> !ru | linux_
[14:46] <ldiamond> Anyone else is having issues with Flash on chrome lately? It keeps crashing and makes pages display freeze when scrolling.
[14:46] <shunya_chakra> ldiamond, amazing, mint i haven't used it... I just currently shifted to ubuntu!
[14:47] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Actually I might be wrong, I forgot that the delta values are in seconds I just found a few guys taking 4 seconds to deliver, time to investigate.
[14:47] <ldiamond> shunya_chakra, ubuntu is just fine honestly. Once you get used to it, you could install the server version and install lxde only. You can then install only the browser and email client you need and leave all the ubuntu-desktop shtuff out.
[14:47] <Guest48378> Symphonym, okay, I'd use a graphical monitoring tool with a time axis, showing the peeks visualized. - Also, you could activate the firewall in such a way, that only the ports minimum needed are open for your purpose and then evaluate for 1 or 2 days?
[14:48] <skinux> How much disk space is usually used by Ubuntu out-of-the-box?
[14:48] <shunya_chakra> ldiamond, I definitly going to try that!
[14:49] <ldiamond> skinux, is that because you don't have much space available?
[14:50] <ldiamond> skinux, It really depends what version you install and what packages you install
[14:50] <ldiamond> skinux, a ubuntu desktop install should work in ~5GB
[14:50] <jango42> skinux 8gb from memory but 20 gb or more is better
[14:50] <Symphonym> Guest48378 I found a packet containing text with "Microsoft Peer Name Resolution Protocol" which are sent with pretty set intervalls, these packets take 3-4 seconds
[14:51] <mexi_d3> skinux, On my system I have 7.4GB used, and I have added a lot of stuff. When installed it was around 5.
[14:52] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Is there a chance this is actually skype?
[14:52] <mexi_d3> skinux, Ubuntu will typically create a swap file equal to the size of main memory, in addition to that.
[14:52] <Guest48378> Symphonym, yes, nothing special => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_Name_Resolution_Protocol
[14:52] <jango42> Aymphonym are they Arp Pakets ?
[14:53] <Symphonym> jango42 no idea, all it says is SSDP if that's of any matter.
[14:53] <jango42> Address Resolution Protocla Packets
[14:53] <Symphonym> Guest48378 I'll look up a graphical tool to see if I can get more data/info
[14:56] <jango42> Symphonym you can use the filter in wire shark to check
[14:56] <orbisvicis> exit
[14:58] <maddawg3> interestingly i was trying to use wireshark to see traffic from my server to clients
[14:58] <sagat> boa tarde
[14:58] <maddawg3> mainly i was trying to spot all the www traffic to my apache server
[14:58] <maddawg3> but it didnt pick anything up at all
[14:59] <john_doe_jr> I have a bash script that attempts to do a mkdir /path/to/dir but I keep getting asked "The directory does not exist, would you like to create it?"..since I run the script several times I don't want to be asked this…how do I prevent this from happening?
[14:59] <maddawg3> etherape on the other hand did... and even told me the bandwidth each protocol and client was using
[14:59] <sagat> alguem ai poderia  me dizer como faço para saber mais sobre esse canal ja que sou usuŕio ubuntu linux a anos e gostaria de compartilhar do meu conhecimento
[14:59] <SamwiseGamgee> What are the lightweight Linux-based operating systems like Xubuntu?  Can you name them?
[14:59] <nullPointer> #cucuk
[15:00] <SamwiseGamgee> Someone told me I should install them onto my AMD Athlon PC, because itś about ten years old and only has 511 MB of RAM
[15:00] <Cogito4816> Hey, guys.  I'm trying to find a replacement for TrueCrypt, and I've been told that LUKS / dm-crypt is the way to go for Ubuntu.  I've heard that you can make encrypted files to store data (i.e. video files, documents, etc.), but I'm not sure how to do this.  Does anyone know?  If so, can you walk me through it from the beginning?
[15:01] <Guest48378> Symphonym, for a first look, you could use iftop (no graphics) or nethogs => http://askubuntu.com/questions/2411/how-do-i-find-out-which-process-is-eating-up-my-bandwidth
[15:01] <compdoc> SamwiseGamgee, you should recycle that system and let it rest in peace
[15:01] <Cogito4816> I've already got full-disk encryption set up, but I'd like to set up encrypted files like how TrueCrypt does
[15:02] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Trying out nethogs now
[15:03] <SamwiseGamgee> Xubuntu says I need 512 MB of memory.  Are they referring to my RAM memory?
[15:03] <maddawg3> john_doe_jr what happens if you use mkdir -p to make the directory
[15:03] <seanh> Hey, I'm developing against a web service that is redirecting browsers to https://lcoalhost:8080. This should be localhost, but the service is out of my control and I can't fix it. So I've put `<IP_ADDRESS> lcoalhost` in my /etc/hosts file and now http://lcoalhost:8080 resolves to my web app running on localhost. But https://lcoalhost:8080/ gives me an ssl_error_rx_record_too_long error in Firefox. Any idea if I can get round this?
[15:03] <maddawg3> that tells it to make the parent directory in the command
[15:04] <john_doe_jr> maddawg: it continues to ask me
[15:04] <Cogito4816> Anybody
[15:04] <maddawg3> seanh that sounds like a reverse proxy
[15:05] <bcvery> !patience | Cogito4816
[15:05] <maddawg3> the apache server is doing a reverse proxy to a service running on port 8080
[15:05] <john_doe_jr> maddawg: I'm calling it as a variable in bash … mkdir $LOCATION  ….I run it and it asks me
[15:05] <maddawg3> but is the command you are running including -p?
[15:06] <john_doe_jr> maddawg: I've tried both
[15:08] <maddawg3> john_doe_jr: interesting.. not sure why... i know when i run it manually it doesnt say that
[15:08] <maddawg3> like without being in a script
[15:08] <john_doe_jr> maddawg: same thing….from the command line it's fine
[15:09] <Macer> i have an amd a10 on an msi board and when the system is asleep for a while the networking and bt devices die until reboot
[15:09] <nashant> Hey. I've just installed server 14.04 and it gets part way through booting and then the console hangs (init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process ended, respawning). But SSH still works. I've tried adding noplymouth to grub defaults but no joy. Any ideas?
[15:09] <Macer> anybody have any experience with this?
[15:09] <Macer> nashant: are you sure it hung? press enter and see if it goes to login
[15:09] <nashant> Macer: Nope. hung
[15:10] <Macer> i think i get a similar warning when i start my ubuntu server up.. there is an #ubuntu-server channel tho
[15:10] <Macer> maybe they might be able to help more
[15:10] <nashant> I'll give it a go, cheers
[15:10] <Macer> sorry. but i know i had something similar. but my console didn't hang completely
[15:11] <Fritzendugan> question: when a proprietary driver is listed in "additional drivers" as "(proprietary, tested)" does this mean that specific driver was tested with my specific detected graphics hardware? Or just that the driver was tested with Ubuntu on some arbitrary hardware?
[15:12] <holstein> Fritzendugan: just "tested".. you cant expect testers to have tested with your specific graphics hardware..
[15:13] <Macer> hm. i have to find out what is going on with this coming out of suspend
[15:13] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Neither iftop or nethogs made me any wiser on the issue :/ I'll try to find something with a solid GUI graph, should hopefully be visible there
[15:13] <Fritzendugan> holstein, I mean, there are only so many NVIDIA GPUs, and a couple are used more commonly than others, I don't think it's that unrealistic of a question. Anyway, so "tested" is just some ambiguous identifier that means "tested at some point on some hardware?"
[15:13] <Macer> the onboard networking and bluetooth just don't come back up
[15:13] <Macer> it's odd
[15:13] <Macer> i have to reboot for them to work again
[15:13] <Macer> :/
[15:14] <Macer> which defeats the purpose of suspending
[15:14] <maddawg3> is 14.04 LTS yet?
[15:14] <holstein> Fritzendugan: could mean, not tested on hardware at all
[15:15] <maddawg3> i only use the latest LTS version on my servers
[15:15] <maddawg3> unless it's just for testing
[15:15] <holstein> Fritzendugan: the code comes "as-is", from nvidia.. could be it was tested to build against the kernel, and not tested in any way with hardware at all
[15:15] <maddawg3> but np production servers have anything other than lts
[15:15] <holstein> maddawg3: 14.04 was always a long term support.. LTS
[15:15] <mexi_d3> maddawg3, It is an LTS but the .1 isn't out, so I do not think Precise will upgrade without -d
[15:15] <holstein> !14.04
[15:16] <maddawg3> ah
[15:16] <Fritzendugan> holstein, I see. So what's the deal with all the drivers that don't say tested? They weren't tested at all? Seems kind of hard to believe
[15:16] <maddawg3> i did not know that
[15:16] <maddawg3> i'm still on 12.04
[15:16] <nashant> Macer: for future reference, nomodeset issue
[15:16] <mexi_d3> maddawg3, And Precise 12.04 is showing no upgrade?
[15:16] <maddawg3> beats me... didnt try
[15:16] <holstein> Fritzendugan: what drivers are listed "untested" ?
[15:16] <maddawg3> lol i dont do auto updates
[15:17] <holstein> maddawg3: 12.04 will be naturally offered the upgrade at the 14.04.1 release
[15:17] <mexi_d3> maddawg3, If you have LTS turned on, it won't show updates until July or so when SRU #1 arrives.
[15:17] <Fritzendugan> holstein, none are specifically listed "untested" but there are a couple, mostly legacy, which don't have the "tested" identifier. They simply say "(proprietary)"
[15:17] <Fritzendugan> only one driver actually says tested
[15:17] <holstein> Fritzendugan: legacy is just that.. legacy.. for older hardware
[15:17] <maddawg3> cool.. well i dont plan to upgrade my servers to it
[15:17] <maddawg3> might do my desktop build tho
[15:17] <holstein> maddawg3: you can
[15:18] <Fritzendugan> holstein, yes, I understand that. Maybe I'm not being clear: my question is what decides which drivers get listed as "tested" and which don't.
[15:18] <maddawg3> i will eventually upgrade the servers but i always test it first because i cant afford to have my servers go down on me
[15:18] <holstein> Fritzendugan: there should be none, as you say, that are marked "untested"
[15:18] <mexi_d3> maddawg3, I see zero reason to upgrade a server so long as precise is performing adequately and is still supported/
[15:19] <maddawg3> mexi_d3 sometimes for security patches
[15:19] <maddawg3> granted for the most part you can get those with older versions
[15:19] <holstein> maddawg3: 12.04 gets security patches, so not
[15:19] <Fritzendugan> holstein, Like I said, none are specifically marked "untested." However, only one driver is explicitly marked as "(proprietary, tested)" the rest just say "(proprietary)"
[15:19] <maddawg3> yes holstein hence why i wont upgrade yet
[15:19] <holstein> maddawg3: the reason would be, for the newer version.. 14.04.. not security patches
[15:19] <Fritzendugan> holstein, my question is what's the difference
[15:20] <holstein> Fritzendugan: i usually just try them, and see what works best for my hardware.. they just come in as is
[15:20] <maddawg3> but EVENTUALLY i bet upgrading will be either beneficial in some way or not
[15:20] <maddawg3> rather it will be beneficial or required i meant to say
[15:20] <holstein> maddawg3: it will be when 12.04 stops providing security updates, and you want them.. or you want the newer version
[15:20] <Fritzendugan> holstein, what kind of metrics do you use for deciding which is best? I don't seem to notice much of a difference between them.
[15:20] <maddawg3> yes
[15:20] <maddawg3> pricesly
[15:21] <holstein> Fritzendugan: i literally load them up, and see for myself, on my hardware.. we are typically not promised any level of linux support for those, so, basically, i try and do what a company would do for windows
[15:22] <holstein> Fritzendugan: you would pay dell to do the research and provide you with the "best" driver for windows.. you are basically taking that reponsibility on yourself to run linux, or any operating system the company doesnt specificially support.. it can be a challenge
[15:22] <maddawg3>  i just got a really sweet dedicated server for pretty cheap money
[15:22] <maddawg3> running vmware esxi on it with 2 instances of ubuntu and 3 of windows
[15:23] <Fritzendugan> holstein, so what kinds of things do you do when you're trying to test the driver? I don't really notice a difference. Are there any benchmarks or anything I can run?
[15:23] <maddawg3> wish it offered more than 4TB of storage tho
[15:23] <holstein> Fritzendugan: sure.. but, i usually just use it, and see
[15:23] <holstein> Fritzendugan: if i want to game, i test a game.. if i want power management, i test that..
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> maddawg3: add a new controller
[15:24] <maddawg3> ActionParsnip what?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> maddawg3: if you want more staorage, add a new storage controller
[15:25] <maddawg3> it's a server i rent
[15:25] <maddawg3> i'm talking about a dedi... we arent given physical access to it
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> maddawg3: oh, I thought you owned it
[15:25] <maddawg3> no
[15:25] <maddawg3> unfortunately
[15:25] <maddawg3> i am trying to find a colo that can give me some rack space for cheap money
[15:25] <holstein> maddawg3: then, move to one that offers more
[15:26] <maddawg3> holstein havent found one at an affordable cost
[15:26] <maddawg3> i pay $52 for what i have
[15:26] <maddawg3> 4TB, Intel XEON 3.4Ghz 4c/8t
[15:26] <OerHeks> pay more get more, law of pay ... errr, law of more
[15:26] <maddawg3> 32GB of RAM
[15:26] <maddawg3> yes but the difference is astronomical
[15:26] <maddawg3> like we're talking for 8TB over $200 a month
[15:27] <holstein> maddawg3: "affordable" will be a matter of opinion.. if you need more, get it.. if you dont.. dont..
[15:27] <maddawg3> that's a big jump t
[15:27] <Fritzendugan> maddawg3, $52 a month?
[15:27] <maddawg3> ummmm... duh
[15:27] <maddawg3> holstein that is generally how it works
[15:27] <maddawg3> hence why i dont have more
[15:27] <holstein> maddawg3: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. thanks
[15:27] <maddawg3> all i was saying was that i wish the dedi i got OFFERED more.. I'd gladly pay more if they offered more
[15:28] <maddawg3> other than that they are great
[15:28] <Fritzendugan> maddawg3, not sure why it's necessary for you to say duh, but thanks. What provider are you using?
[15:28] <skinux> Well, I installed Trusty Trahr onto a 30G partition, but out-of-the-box it seems to take up 20G.
[15:28] <maddawg3> that was not directed to you fritzendugan
[15:28] <maddawg3> sorry
[15:28] <mexi_d3> skinux, What does "df -h" say in terminal?
[15:28] <Fritzendugan> maddawg3, it's cool. "dendi" is that who you're using?
[15:28] <maddawg3> it just came in after your message... I use SoYouStart (It's an OVH company)
[15:29] <Fritzendugan> maddawg3, "SoYouStart" ok thanks, gonna check them out
[15:30] <whoever> hi all, I am currently booding with a machanical drive, if I swich to ssd will I still notice a speed increase (the drive would only hold the OS)  and file storage is on a machanical drive ?
[15:30] <maddawg3> whoever, yes
[15:31] <Fritzendugan> Looks like most of their offerings are currently sold out :( Still, that's not bad for the hardware you're getting
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> whoever: yes, the seek time is near zero as opposed to a platter based drive
[15:31] <orbisvicis> how do I update grub so that os-prober is run ?
[15:32] <maddawg3> yea what ActionParsnip said...
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> orbisvicis: sudo update-grub
[15:32] <orbisvicis> (update-grub... didn't run os prober, i think)
[15:32] <maddawg3> i just upgraded my laptop to an SSD and then kept my 1TB sata as a secondary internal drive
[15:33] <maddawg3> they now have a 4TB SSD
[15:33] <maddawg3> but way to expensive
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> whoever: after a while, the disk cache in RAM will be setup and you'll probably find it runs at only slightly faster than the platter based drive. Depends how much RAM you have really
[15:33] <maddawg3> that and also the speed of the port
[15:33] <maddawg3> sata for example is 3 or 6gb/s
[15:33] <maddawg3> depending on what speed you have for that
[15:34] <Fritzendugan> whoever, everything won't be instant, but compared to hdds, you'll notice significant improvements in boot-up times and application load times (if the apps are on your ssd). Managing directories/mount-points can be slightly more complicated, and also, if you're like me, you'll get addicted to the load times and soon you'll want all your software on your ssd, and it can fill up fast, depending on how large an SSD you get.
[15:34] <Fritzendugan> especially if you game
[15:35] <whoever> Fritzendugan: 125GB ssd, so it would definetly be able to hold the OS and apps
[15:36] <whoever> ActionParsnip: 8GB ram, my system I realy have to try to use more then 4GB at a time
[15:36] <Fritzendugan> whoever, definitely hold the OS, and definitely hold all your apps, as long as you don't install a lot of games. If you have a large steam library and lots of games, for instance, you will definitely fill that up.
[15:37] <whoever> Fritzendugan: I am not a hard core gamer, i do mostly programming
[15:37] <Fritzendugan> whoever, you can always install some games on your hard-drive if you start filling up too fast though, so no worries really
[15:37] <Fritzendugan> whoever, then yeah I'm sure you'll be fine. You'll definitely notice significant performance improvements
[15:38] <whoever> Fritzendugan: so i am currently booting with 7200RPM with 16MB cach drive, =
[15:38] <Fritzendugan> whoever, I don't know if you use eclipse, but the first time I booted up eclipse on my ssd I was just like "wow, who knew eclipse could be this fast"
[15:39] <whoever> Fritzendugan: is this one of those things that really can't be explaind, and you have to get one and try it out ?
[15:39] <whoever> Fritzendugan: no i use IDEA
[15:39] <Fritzendugan> whoever, kind of. I mean basically your OS will load faster and your programs will start up faster. That's the gist
[15:39] <orbisvicis> ActionParsnip: hmm running os-prober doesn't recognize the new linux partition I've created (just containing vmlinuz, initrd, and squashfs file). Also doesn't recognize the current ubuntu partition, so it appears broken ?
[15:41] <whoever> Fritzendugan: you wanna load intelij IDEA and oooh and aw .. its faster then eclips
[15:41] <Symphonym> Guest48378 I can't manage to find the issue, the spikes doesn't really show in other monitoring program it's only clearly visible in the ping command
[15:41] <Fritzendugan> whoever, the way I set up my partitions/mounts: / and swap are on my SSD, and /home is on my hdd. There might be better ways, and there is some debate as to the utility of specifying a swap partition when you have lots of RAM. Others might be able to give you different/better advice on how to set up your partitions/mount-points
[15:41] <Fritzendugan> whoever, haha nah, I rarely use eclipse anyway. I mostly just use sublime and command-line tools. I use eclipse in the rare event I'm doing some java development.
[15:43] <whoever> Fritzendugan: ok, now do i need to do any bios setting so that i can use the ssd
[15:43] <whoever> Fritzendugan: what is the trim that I have seen so many talk about
[15:43] <rkdemon> Does anyone know where to get libssh2 for ubuntu trusty ?
[15:43] <OerHeks> !trim
[15:44] <Lax> Is there a tool on the live CD that will let me check the health/state of a SSD drive?  My 14.04 install had a crash and now it will not boot with the message of "BOOT DISK FAILURE", and the reinstall is also failing.  Its a new SSD (<2months old) but Im wondering if it failed?
[15:44] <OerHeks> !find libssh2
[15:44] <Fritzendugan> whoever, trim is basically some fancy firmware stuff that helps the SSD more optimally run, basically. You can read about it on wikipedia if you want more info. TRIM support is pretty much ubiquitous at this point, so not much to worry about.
[15:44] <Fritzendugan> whoever, as for bios settings, it depends on your set-up. I didn't have to change anything in my bios
[15:45] <natewalck> Morning
[15:45] <natewalck> Anyone here use ZFS on Ubuntu
[15:45] <whoever> Fritzendugan: oh, because a few years back most seemed to have to make setting changes just to use it, so now its though it in your box and image
[15:47] <Fritzendugan> whoever, yeah, early days of ssds and raid and sata and all that jazz could get messy with the bios. If it's a decently new mainboard (~3 years or so) everything should be pretty much setup already or automatic. There are tons of guides online though if you hit any snares, so I wouldn't worry about it. Since SSDs are so mainstream now, any trouble you run into somebody likely already hit the same roadblocks
[15:50] <whoever> Fritzendugan: ok, my last main concern if drive failure, hdd that is set up for boot will fail just out of warrenty
[15:51] <natewalck> Also, is it safe to install ubuntu to a USB drive
[15:51] <natewalck> and run it from there?
[15:51] <natewalck> or will the read/writes kill the drive
[15:52] <Nach0z> natewalck: strictly speaking it'll work. if you get a high-quality flash drive it'd probably last a long time
[15:52] <natewalck> Nach0z: Is there an appliance-mode type of install?
[15:52] <Nach0z> might be worth looking into portable XHDDs though
[15:52] <natewalck> where it loads everything into memory upon boot to reduce writes
[15:52] <Nach0z> I really dunno, sorry. Last I checked though, it does load a lot of stuff into memory but Ubuntu really doesn't write that much stuff to disk on its own IIRC
[15:53] <natewalck> no worries
[15:53] <natewalck> and if that is the case
[15:53] <natewalck> that should work out just fine
[15:53] <natewalck> I plan on having all the config in puppet, so even if the USB drive blows up, it will be trivial to replace
[15:54] <Macer> ugh
[15:54] <Macer> why must msi force you to use a windows app to update the bios?
[15:54] <Macer> seriously
[15:54]  * Macer is trying to find a way to do this without windows but there doesn't seem to be one
[15:54]  * Macer facepalms
[15:54] <Macer> maybe i can install win7 onto a thumb drive for moments like this
[15:55] <OerHeks> Macer,  does the bios not give you ma update tool from usb?
[15:55] <Macer> it does.. but msi doesn't give you an update img
[15:55] <Macer> their site has a .exe that you're supposed to run in windows
[15:56] <Macer> and i can't seem to find a way to download just the img to flash it from a thumb drive :/
[15:56] <Macer> it's insanity
[15:56] <orbisvicis> had to run "mkdir -p ./lib/ld.so.conf.d/" to get os-prober to recognize it as a linux partition
[15:56] <Macer> http://www.msi.com/support/mb/FM2A75IAE53.html#down-bios <- that's my motherboard
[15:57] <OerHeks> Macer, maybe freedos is a solution
[15:57] <whoever> Fritzendugan: so i guess my question is longevity releability
[15:57] <slah> hello everybody
[15:57] <holstein> Macer: you can try any update tools in wine, but, i would do what the manufacturer suggests.. or, what most folks suggest, which is, dont mess with the bios unless mandatory
[15:58] <Macer> holstein: well i think it is. there seems to be a bug with the onboad networking on this boad
[15:58] <Macer> board
[15:58] <holstein> Macer: nothing about ubuntu or linux is preventing them from providing you a way to update your bios, though, there is little we are allowed to do to facilitate that
[15:58] <Macer> i had issues in windows as well.. where the networking (eth and wifi) and bt would just die
[15:58] <Macer> holstein: yeah.. .it's MSI's fault :/
[15:58] <Macer> they just want to make sure the catlle don't send their motherboards back heh
[15:58] <Macer> cattle
[15:59] <holstein> Macer: its actually no one's "fault".. you are just trying to do something contrary to the directions
[15:59] <Macer> holstein: update the bios outside of windows? ;)
[15:59] <holstein> Macer: they never promised you could do so
[15:59] <Macer> holstein: in my experience MSI always provided img files to update the bios. don't know what changed.
[15:59]  * Macer points above to people mis-flashing their bios
[16:00] <Macer> ah well. i'll just make a windows 7 thumb drive that boots if i can heh
[16:00] <Macer> seems like the easiest solution for problems like these
[16:00] <holstein> Macer: nothing about ubuntu will prevent that.. but, you will want to check with the creators of windows for restrictions
[16:00] <Fritzendugan> whoever, It really depends. I'd always recommend keeping multiple backups of important data. Obviously you should be using version control already for any code you're working on (maybe backed up to github or bitbucket or something). As for documents something like Google Drive or Dropbox might be good. For movies/music/etc. a networked storage device or an external hard drive might be helpful.
[16:01] <holstein> Macer: we are not sure that this addresses the issue anyways.. you are assuming a bios upgrade is a "fix"..
[16:01] <mexi_d3> I'm trying to login to help.ubuntu.com to fix something on the ubuntu help wiki, and it appears the site is having problems. Am I the only one?
[16:02] <Fritzendugan> whoever, as for the question of which will last longer, an SSD or a HDD that also depends. The "less full" the SSD is, the more it can wear-level itself, and the longer it will last. So, put simply, larger SSDs will last longer. I've read online of people using SSDs and they fail after a few months. Personally, I have an SSD I've been using for more than 2 years with no issues at all. It just depends.
[16:02] <jango42> mexi_d3 it was hacked a while back dont know the current status
[16:02] <holstein> mexi_d3: seems like, yes, you are the only one.. http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/help.ubuntu.com
[16:02] <whoever> Fritzendugan: have you used the crucial mx100
[16:03] <Macer> holstein: i would say it is. the bios is outdated and has another awesome bug where you press esc to save and it crashes :)
[16:03] <Macer> my other system has the same motherboard but bought later
[16:03] <Fritzendugan> whoever, I have not. I'm using an intel drive, and my friends have used OCZ and Samsung. I've heard good things about the newer Crucial drives, though. Pro-tip, regardless of where you're buying hardware, do a product search on Newegg and read the reviews. They're usually very good.
[16:03] <Macer> and it doesn't have the networking issue
[16:03] <whoever> Fritzendugan: ah so in tems of longevity it is still a crap shoot
[16:04] <Macer> holstein: plus it's just a bios update. no harm no foul. best to eliminate it as a possibility regardless
[16:04] <Fritzendugan> whoever, I wouldn't say it's a "crap shoot." exactly. Some HDDs can last a very long time, some do not. Some SSDs last a very long time, some do not. Hopefully my SSD will keep kicking for many years! But time will tell.
[16:04] <whoever> Fritzendugan: i have checked in #hardware and  crucial mx100 seems to bee one of the better ones
[16:05] <mexi_d3> If a page on ubuntu wiki is listed as immutable but requires updating, who do I contact?
[16:05] <whoever> Fritzendugan: are there any warning signs of ssd failure  or will it just die
[16:05] <Fritzendugan> whoever, I will say in something like a laptop that might be accidentally dropped or shaken a lot, a SSD will likely do better than a HDD, the latter has moving parts that might not do well with the physical shock.
[16:06] <mexi_d3> whoever, I recommend over-provisioning if you are worried about that.
[16:07] <Simpson_2> which part of 'service' controls the screen output which shows [fail] or [OK] ? I'm trying to write a script for a service
[16:07] <Fritzendugan> whoever, as for warning signs, I'm not sure. I've never experienced a bad SSD, myself.
[16:07] <whoever> mexi_d3: i am asking all these questions because i do have a working hdd now, and if i do decide to get an ssd, are there  any warning signs of failure
[16:08] <llutz> whoever: you may ask in #hardware, this is ubuntu-support
[16:08] <holstein> Macer: typically, there actually *can* be harm and foul, which is why most agree to not update the bios unless mandatory
[16:09] <Macer> holstein: heh. understood.
[16:09] <holstein> whoever: *all* hard drives fail.. you should always plan and expect them all to fail, as they will, and have good backups.. not matter what technology
[16:09] <Guest48378> Symphonym, sorry for being late. - I'm out of ideas.  - Then restart the router and the machine and use a wired connection to test the pings/playing experience?
[16:12] <Trudko> Guys I would like to automate building of atom https://github.com/atom/atom/blob/master/docs/build-instructions/linux.md lets say I would like to have new version of Atom everytime I start ubuntu what is best way to do that?
[16:12] <Trudko> simple shell script might be enough right?
[16:13] <drex> how do i specify an alternate location to /var/crash for dump files created by linux-crashdump ?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: I'd say so, yes
[16:14] <holstein> Trudko: you could get it in upstream debian, which would feed ubuntu packages, and come in in normal updates when the packages are in.. you could put them in ubuntu. you could personally create and maintain a PPA.. you could script something manually, though, i would want to know what breakages could happen
[16:14] <drex> on centos, you can specify in /etc/kdump.conf , but it doesn't exist on ubuntu
[16:14] <Volontari> ciao
[16:14] <Volontari> !list
[16:14] <Trudko> holstein: what is the easiest way?
[16:15] <holstein> Trudko: "easy" will be a matter of opinion, and use case.. if whatever you are pulling from breaks in the script, you may prefer a PPA, though, maintaining that one's self may not be preferred..
[16:16] <Trudko> holstein: well i dont mind if what i donwload from github would be broken
[16:16] <holstein> i think it would be easy if it were upstream and just updating the system updated the package.. but, that would also take some work
[16:17] <Trudko> I will ask on #atom too maybe there got some recomendation too
[16:19] <setuid> I have a directory ~/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360/ that is absolutely empty (verified with 'ls -lart' from root), and I can't remove it, because Linux claims it's not empty
[16:19] <maek> is it possible to make 1 upstart service start another and/or depend on it?
[16:20] <holstein> setuid: you should be able to carefully sudo remove it with a command, regardless of what it has in it
[16:20] <setuid> holstein, Nope, no can do... tried sudo. I can mv it to another name/place on the same filesystem, but can't move it to /tmp/ nor remove it.
[16:20] <setuid> it's 100% empty, du -bsc verifies this
[16:20] <holstein> setuid: give the entire output..
[16:20] <setuid> there's no hidden files, nothing at all in it
[16:20] <holstein> !paste | setuid
[16:21] <setuid> Can't paste, apparently my clipboard is non-functional
[16:21] <setuid> I'll manually type it all out
[16:22] <holstein> setuid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/217893/how-to-delete-a-non-empty-directory-in-terminal explains.. there is a command that you need to be careful with that can remove it
[16:22] <holstein> setuid: i suggest reading the entire post, which explains the issue, and potential danger
[16:23] <setuid> holstein, I've been using Linux since the late 90's, I'm very used to deleting directories, empty and otherwise, this one has me stumped.
[16:23] <holstein> setuid: what is the *exact* command you are using? friend?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> setuid: is the filesystem mounted readonly?
[16:23] <setuid> I'm thinking some low-level XFS + encrypted $HOME corruption of some sort
[16:23] <setuid> like a dirent is broken
[16:24] <setuid> ActionParsnip, Nope, I can create and delete files IN that directory, just can't remove the dir itself
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> setuid: sudo rm -r ~/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360       is the command you need
[16:24] <setuid> ActionParsnip, Yep, run that and dozens of other commands to try to figure it out, remove it, none work
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> setuid: who is the owner of the folder?
[16:24] <setuid> all report the dir is non-empty
[16:24] <setuid> ActionParsnip, I own it, 'setuid'
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> setuid: owner and group owner
[16:24] <sysmon> that's the exact output?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> setuid: can you chown it to nobody:nobody ?
[16:25] <llutz> setuid: check lsattr
[16:25] <sysmon> have you check the attributes?
[16:25] <setuid> Yep and yep, I can do everything to it, but remove it
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> llutz: nice
[16:25] <setuid> attrs are fine, facl, chattr are all correct
[16:25] <holstein> setuid: what is the exact error from the command ActionParsnip gave?
[16:25] <sysmon> whats the exact error again?
[16:26] <setuid> holstein, I can't paste, so let me manually type that in: One sec
[16:26] <holstein> !pastebinit
[16:26] <setuid> holstein, I can't PASTE, not into xchat, not into a browser. Ubuntu's clipboard is broken.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> setuid: try:    sudo chattr -i ~/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360
[16:26] <setuid> So let me type this all in by hand
[16:26] <setuid> ActionParsnip, Been there, done that, doesn't help
[16:26] <holstein> setuid: ok.. !pastebinit explains how to share that information *without* being able to paste
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> setuid: if you chown to nobody:nobody    can it be deleted then? does the chown stick?
[16:27] <holstein> setuid: if many system resources are broken, you could have a failing hard drive
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> setuid: what file system is the folder on?
[16:27] <sysmon> just type the exact error.
[16:27] <setuid> ActionParsnip, Nope, chown + rm -rvf does not wrok
[16:27] <setuid> holstein, ~5 month old SSD drive, likely not broken
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> setuid: what file system is the folder on?
[16:27] <holstein> setuid: *all* drives fail
[16:28] <setuid> $ sudo rm -rfv /home/setuid/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360
[16:28] <setuid> rm: cannot remove directory '/home/setuid/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360': Directory not empty
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> setuid: never had a DOA drive?
[16:28] <setuid> ActionParsnip, many times
[16:28] <llutz> setuid: umount, fsck
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> setuid: then it being new is irrelevant then, isnt it
[16:29] <setuid> llutz, /home is ecryptfs
[16:29] <setuid> so how do I decrypt (as root) and fsck that?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> setuid: tried rmdir  instead of rm ?
[16:30] <drex> anyone know where to configure an alternate location for kernel crash dumps besides /var/crash ?
[16:30] <setuid> /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt on / type xfs (rw,noatime,discard)
[16:30] <setuid> ActionParsnip, Yes
[16:30] <llutz> drex: /etc/default/kdump* maybe?
[16:30] <setuid> I'll try a reboot and xfs_repair on this
[16:30] <setuid> back shortly
[16:32] <jmadero> anyone around using Gnome on top of Ubuntu?
[16:33] <xangua> !ask | jmadero
[16:33] <pavlos> jmadero, running 12.04 with classic gnome
[16:33] <jmadero> yes - apologies :) anyone know how to turn off the crappy screenlock in Gnome3 - for me in settings -> privacy it's grayed out
[16:33] <jmadero> so I can't turn it off
[16:34] <jmadero> I like to conserve energy but having to type my long password every 60 seconds becomes irritating
[16:35] <drex> llutz: that doesn't exist and i cant find a man page about it
[16:36] <llutz> !info kdump-tools | drex:
[16:37] <llutz> drex: that seems to be needed. KDUMP_COREDIR="/yourpath/"   sets the new location then (iirc)
[16:37] <drex> ah, thanks
[16:37] <drex> ill try installing that
[16:37] <drex> i just grabbed linux-crashdump only initially
[16:39] <drex> llutz: package doesn't exist in the Lucid repo =[
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> jmadero, I just came on the channel, curious why your having to use the password every 60 seconds.
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> on to*
[16:40] <jmadero> wilee-nilee: I like my monitor turning off after 60 seconds to conserve energy but the stupid gnome lock screen keeps coming on
[16:40] <jmadero> and I can't turn it off through settings -> privacy (it's locked out)
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> jmadero,  Tis 12.04
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> this*
[16:40] <jmadero> 14.04
[16:40] <keevitaja> hello, does anyone have working installation of wine with cups printing support installed. i'd like to see the win.ini file
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> jmadero, Go to the power setting and set the screen to a higher time.
[16:41] <jmadero> wilee-nilee: the point is I want the monitor off after 1 minute
[16:41] <jmadero> I just don't want the lock screen on
[16:42] <dreamon> hey. want to buy a new notebook with HD 8750M graphic chip. anybody know that it works?
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> jmadero, you can turn that off, THAT IS THE POINT.
[16:42] <jmadero> hm - or I can leave Gnome if something so simple is broken ;)
[16:42] <sydney> jmadero: isnt that under brightness and lock?
[16:42] <jmadero> Unity works fine
[16:42] <phunyguy> dreamon, AMD graphics?
[16:42] <jmadero> sydney: it's under privacy, but it's grayed out
[16:42] <jmadero> and the gnome people just sent me here saying they don't deal with Ubuntu
[16:42] <jmadero> lol
[16:42] <dreamon> phunyguy, yes
[16:43] <phunyguy> dreamon, do you need powerful graphics?
[16:43] <jmadero> being able to disable a lock screen requiring a password is pretty basic functionality :-/
[16:43] <dreamon> phunyguy, Sometime I would like to blender. but if it work in later days it wont mind
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> jmadero, your attitude and  gets you a free ignore, you are complaining like a kindergartner, GROW UP and take some responsibility.
[16:44] <jmadero> wilee-nilee: okay, your suggestion outside of wasting energy
[16:44] <phunyguy> dreamon, personally, I would avoid ATI/Nvidia in Linux, as it is very hit and miss with them working correctly, and even then it is not 100%
[16:44] <sydney> jmadero: is there a brightness and lock setting in the main settings pannel?
[16:45] <jmadero> sydney: one minute will check
[16:45] <jmadero> sydney: no there's not - I have "power" where I can control the time out time (which is what wilee-nilee wants me to do) and then there is privacy where in theory I should be able to disable the screenlock
[16:45] <jmadero> but the settings in privacy are all grayed out
[16:45] <dreamon> phunyguy, what is left, if you dont use ATI or Nvidia? Intel ?
[16:46] <sydney> jmadero: thats weird!?
[16:46] <jmadero> lol I know ;)
[16:46] <jmadero> and obviously not right
[16:46] <phunyguy> dreamon, yes, Intel, which has been very good for me.
[16:46] <sydney> jmadero: I am running gnome 12.04 though.
[16:46] <jmadero> sydney: and you're running Gnome Classic right?
[16:46] <jmadero> maybe it's a bug with Gnome3
[16:46] <sydney> jmadero: No
[16:47] <phunyguy> dreamon, granted I don't do anything super intense with graphics, but I would say it is worth it if you really need it, just don't count on it being perfect.
[16:47] <jmadero> was surprised that the gnome people just sent me away when I said I run Ubuntu
[16:47] <jmadero> the response was "go figures, go find a Ubuntu channel"
[16:47] <dreamon> phunyguy, hmm.. all this new nvidias using hybrid/bumblee, where you can switch back to intel i think
[16:47] <jmadero> tried running system settings as sudo - with that I don't even see the privacy options any longer
[16:47] <sydney> jmadero: I dont know hat version of ubunt ugnome i am running though?
[16:47] <jmadero> sydney: do you use gnome shell?
[16:47] <jmadero> the "new" gnome
[16:48] <sydney> jmadero: yes
[16:48] <phunyguy> dreamon, yes that is another option but I don't know how Linux reacts in a hybrid situation like that, perhaps someone else can speak to that?
[16:48] <jmadero> and do you see "privacy" in settings?
[16:48] <Flolila> hey there does anyone know what is going on here? am i infected with something? http://i.imgur.com/fF5z7k3.png
[16:48] <Guest48378> jmadero, could this work for you => http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/disable-screensaver-lock-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/?PageSpeed=noscript
[16:48] <jmadero> and the options aren't grayd out?
[16:48] <sydney> jmadero: yes,here,let me take a pic.
[16:48] <jmadero> Guest48378: thanks!
[16:48] <jmadero> I think that di dit
[16:48] <jmadero> no clue why GUI is locked out
[16:48] <michaelaguiar> Is there a way to set DNSMASQ to use .dev without using the hosts file, but to make is so I can use .dev instead of .dev:8000
[16:49] <jmadero> and I guess others can think I'm a whinny pain in the ... for complaining
[16:49] <michaelaguiar> so assign a port without me typing it in every time?
[16:49] <Flolila> what are those connections?
[16:49] <jmadero> but seems like that resolved it
[16:49] <phunyguy> Flolila, what are we looking at here?
[16:49] <sydney> jmadero: then i wont show pic :D
[16:49] <Flolila> i was running etherape
[16:49] <jmadero> sydney: still going to report a bug against Gnome
[16:49] <jmadero> if they want to say Ubuntu sucks - so be it
[16:49] <Flolila> trying to find out why my inet is so slow
[16:49] <phunyguy> Flolila, looks like a whole lot of IPv6 nonsense
[16:49] <sydney> jmadero: Its there fo me.
[16:50] <Flolila> ok
[16:50] <jmadero> sydney: +1
[16:50] <Flolila> how can i get rid of it?
[16:50] <jmadero> thanks for those who helped
[16:50] <phunyguy> Flolila, does your ISP use IPv6?
[16:50] <sydney> jmadero: sorry i wasnt able to. :(
[16:50] <Flolila> i have no idea
[16:50] <jmadero> sydney: no no - you tried :)
[16:50] <phunyguy> Flolila, judging by your hostmask, the answer is probably no, so that means that traffic is local to your network.
[16:51] <jmadero> and gave useful info
[16:51] <jmadero> sydney: going to try with my 2nd user - maybe it's a configuration problem
[16:51] <phunyguy> Flolila, are you on a school network or something?
[16:51] <jmadero> with my main user
[16:51] <Flolila> yes dorm
[16:51] <sydney> jmadero: are you running ubuntu gnome skin on a unity install?
[16:51] <jmadero> sydney: not really a skin ;) I'm running the full DE on ubuntu
[16:51] <phunyguy> Flolila, then there is probably a lot of broadcast traffic on a poorly configured network
[16:51] <jmadero> much lower CPU use than Unity from my experience
[16:51] <jmadero> I also have KDE installed
[16:51] <phunyguy> Flolila, can you pastebin the output of ifconfig?
[16:51] <jmadero> used to have Cinnamon as well until the ppa was stopped
[16:51] <Flolila> sure one sec
[16:52] <sydney> jmadero: same here. they stopped the ppa 2 days after i installed cinnamon!!
[16:53] <jmadero> lol bummer
[16:53] <jmadero> sydney: supposedly there is another one
[16:53] <phunyguy> ahh yes, fe80::/64 is link local, Flolila, so the network you are connected to has a lot of stuff on it with IPv6 enabled and broadcasting.  You can probably disable IPv6 if you don't need it.
[16:53] <jmadero> I haven't tried it yet
[16:53] <lkyw> hello everyone, because there is a huge chance that it could save my data (read it as "my life"), I need to ask this question: can I ANYHOW get a log of my keystrokes on ubuntu ?
[16:53] <Flolila> http://pastebin.com/Ew642A7p
[16:53] <sydney> jmadero: maybe
[16:53] <Flolila> thanks phunyguy can you tell me how to do this?
[16:53] <OEP> lkyw: past keystrokes?
[16:54] <phunyguy> Flolila, http://askubuntu.com/questions/309461/how-to-disable-ipv6-permanently
[16:54] <lkyw> OEP, yes
[16:54] <sydney> jmadero: I have unity,unity 2D,openbox,ubuntu Gnome,Gnome clasic,lxde,kde and xfce all on one pc. :D
[16:54] <OEP> lkyw: did you enter them into a console/shell?
[16:54] <Flolila> thanks
[16:54] <jmadero> sydney: +1 :-D I do QA testing for LibreOffice so I need multiple DE's
[16:54] <jmadero> sydney: I also use E17
[16:54] <phunyguy> Flolila, if that doesn't fix it, then get with the network admins at your school to figure out why there is so much IPv6 traffic on the network
[16:54] <mexi_d3> lkyw, From how long ago and in what application? Did you install anything special to record them?
[16:54] <Flolila> so i dont have to worry about being infected by some virus?
[16:54] <jmadero> sydney: E17 is the fastest by far, but not flashy at all
[16:55] <Flolila> allright
[16:55] <Flolila> thanks again!
[16:55] <OEP> lkyw: e.g. a terminal or some other application
[16:55] <phunyguy> Flolila, no, it is the IPv6 on several devices being enabled, broadcasting for an IP, not getting one, and setting one for itself... while still broadcasting.
[16:55] <sydney> jmadero: I like lubuntu. :D
[16:55] <jmadero> :-D never tried it actually
[16:56] <jmadero> sydney: I like extra functionality - for instance with Gnome I really like integrated chat
[16:56] <jmadero> with Unity I really like compiz (both for looks and functionality)
[16:56] <jmadero> the only DE I haven't liked much is KDE
[16:56] <lkyw> OEP, mexi_d3 sorry...I think I misconceived the situation..I am likely not to have typed, but copy-pasted. in this regard, I have to change my question: is it ANYHOW possible to get a history of "paste to clipboard" on ubuntu?
[16:56] <phunyguy> Flolila, worst case scenario, you are being singled out by a botnet of some sort by someone at the school, and it is DDoSing you
[16:57] <Flolila> :O
[16:57] <Flolila> i dont hope so
[16:57] <phunyguy> but that is not infection, that is simply denying you of services
[16:57] <xangua> lkyw: just use a clipboard manager
[16:57] <lkyw> OEP, mexi_d3, since 1st March, I can say.
[16:57] <Flolila> allright
[16:57] <sydney> jmadero: I have a few addons for gnome,but none of the newer ones. :(
[16:57] <lkyw> xangua, I meant the past data
[16:57] <phunyguy> Flolila, disabling IPv6 may stop it if that is the case
[16:57] <jmadero> sydney: I use about 7 addons :-D the drop down terminal is amazing
[16:58] <sydney> jmadero: That is only in 14.04,not 12.04
[16:58] <OEP> lkyw: I don't know enough about X internals to recover something that far back, maybe you can explain the situation a little more (such as the source of the original data) and someone can help further
[16:58] <sydney> jmadero: I like the weather one. :D
[16:58] <jmadero> okay next question - when I fullscreen chromium when watching flash (youtube for intance) the fullscreen is wrong (see image here http://imgur.com/fCUcoIG)
[16:59] <jmadero> as you can see it's a new window that does not cover the top gnome taskbar and it goes too far down (off screen) so I can't get to the video controls
[16:59] <sydney> jmadero: hmm,not sure.
[17:00] <sydney> jmadero: are you sure its the computer,and not the screen?
[17:00] <jmadero> sydney: laptop :)
[17:00] <lkyw> OEP, the story is this: the password to a disk partition of mine is no more available. that password has been once copy-pasted from my keyring program (seahorse) into the nautilus password window. now it is one of my tiny chances to regain access to my partition to recover password this way
[17:00] <sydney> jmadero: oh
[17:00] <numerius> lol
[17:00] <jmadero> when I fullscreen with firefox - it's fine. But I have choppy playback with ff when playing flash videos
[17:01] <jmadero> chromium is smooth playback but can't fullscreen :)
[17:01] <sydney> jmadero: i was just about to ask you that...
[17:01] <jmadero> yeah for at least the past 2 years firefox is choppy for me with flash
[17:01] <sydney> jmadero: have you ever tried google chrome?
[17:01] <jmadero> chromium is chrome basically
[17:01] <jmadero> but I will test
[17:01] <OEP> lkyw: I take it the keyring program's data must be on the encrypted volume?
[17:01] <lkyw> OEP: precisely
[17:02] <jmadero> downloading now
[17:02] <sydney> jmadero: no it is not.
[17:02] <OEP> hrm that's a tough one
[17:02] <jmadero> sydney: my understanding is chromium is open source and then chrome takes the code and alters it a bit and then closes it
[17:02] <phunyguy> Flolila, look into the gufw package if you are very worried about it.  You can have it drop by default, and only allow in what you need.
[17:02] <jmadero> but it's similar devs working together
[17:02] <jmadero> could be wrong about that
[17:02] <sydney> jmadero: I had issues with chrominum,so i installed google chrome. :D
[17:03] <sydney> jmadero: fixed  now:D
[17:03] <Flolila> allright phunyguy, this is all new to me
[17:03] <lkyw> OEP, is there a chance for clipboard history? on the machine that I want to check this, I have been using the same OS that I was using when I last copy-pasted the password
[17:03] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: hi
[17:03] <nectarys_> i'm trying to connect a open my usb via virtualbox where i've launched Windows 7, but I wasn't able to find how. Does anyone know how to deal with, please ?
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, Hi, so do you get how to run the bootscript?
[17:04] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: installing now
[17:04] <sydney> jmadero: google chrome is not quite as resource friendly though. ;)
[17:05] <OEP> lkyw: I guess that would be a long shot unless there just happened to be something out there that logs clipboard data (which I sort of doubt, sounds like a major security issue to me), was this something like truecrypt that doesn't unlock on boot, but you just use your keyring program as you need access to the volume?
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, IF windows is still showing in the grub menu try just running sudo update-grub  that may fix the issue.
[17:05] <ben88> hello ubunut world
[17:05] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: well my issue is larger, i don't have any menu at bootup and must use a live cd
[17:06] <sydney> ben88: Hi!!
[17:06] <kyriakoshadj_> Hello i encrypted my hard disk i type the code correctly and there is not opening and it is opening BusyBox
[17:06] <nectarys_> i'm trying to connect a open my usb via virtualbox where i've launched Windows 7, but I wasn't able to find how. Does anyone know how to deal with, please ?
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, Ah cool, so to speak, the script will help us diagnose.
[17:06] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: but restoring grub hasn't worked, and i think the windows bootloader may be interfering
[17:06] <kyriakoshadj_> How can i be into it?
[17:06] <ben88> does anyone have time to explain how shared libs work ?
[17:06] <lkyw> OEP, I dont use truecrypt, I used keyring program to store my password to the partition.
[17:07] <sydney> jmadero: ok,i have to go. Bye!!
[17:07] <sydney> jmadero: hopeflly that fixes your problem. :D
[17:07] <llutz> ben88: ask in  ##linux
[17:08] <ben88> thx
[17:08] <OEP> lkyw: this is an encrypted volume like you make normally with the ubuntu installer?
[17:08] <ben88> can't send to room ##linux?
[17:09] <ben88> not a frequent IRC'er
[17:09] <ben88> hmm
[17:09] <llutz> !register | ben88
[17:09] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: caveat: there has been a lot of partition deleting done today, here's where things are now:  http://pastebin.com/butfn6Gw
[17:10] <lkyw> OEP, I created the encrypted volume with disk utility (palimpsest)..
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, Yeah you have partition numbers out of order, not the best scenario. Are sda1 and sda5 the same basic root?
[17:14] <rcw2> sda5 is ideal, sda1 is a backup of sda5 i just made.  you'll see the boot flag on sda1 but that's just because that was my plan for my next test.  if you can suggest a setup, i can modify things, reboot, and return
[17:14] <Eeinn> anyone around that's familiar with Resara? lol
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, I see no windows remnants, so that is not an issue.
[17:15] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: ok, gparted was saying something about sda2 being affiliated with msdos, so i thought sda2 might have some windows bootloader attached
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, Use my nick prefacing answer to me every time, the boot flag means nothing in linux. two identical roots is you issue here.
[17:15] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: heres a visual representation: http://ctrlv.in/341770
[17:16] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: ok, will do.  no, this issue was there before i created the second root
[17:17] <lkyw> there are various clipboard history tools ( c.h. utility, diodon) as I found out. do any of these display history "before" the installation of the tool?
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, sda2 is the extended, it just contains partitions, you have been over thinking this with multiple errors of any cause and effect
[17:17] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: id be glad to just get going with sda2
[17:18] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: i can make sda1 hidden if that helps
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, I'm not sure I can help you, you have a whole set of wrong assumptions, that to weed through and explain I just don;t have the energy to be honest. ;)
[17:20] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: do you have a set of instructions for getting this going?
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, You have painted yourself into a corner, with partitions out of order and two identical partitions. You do not have to re-install, but to be honest the easiest fix here would be to back up and do that.
[17:22] <lkyw> sorry I have to disconnect for a sec
[17:22] <random_guy_> hey
[17:22] <random_guy_> i got a problem
[17:22] <random_guy_> todays ubuntu update broke it
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> !details | random_guy_ all in one post
[17:24] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: backup and do what? delete the mirrored partition and done??
[17:26] <random_guy_> yep : i updated ubuntu 14.04 today; update went smoothly ; after reboot i was stuck after the login screen with pointer and no unity; ctrl+alt+f1 tty0 login shows no major discrepancy in lightdm logs or greeter logs; what i have done - correcting ownership of .Xauthority, purging and re-installing ubuntu-desktop,compiz and unity
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, Back up to an external what you need, wipe the HD and start over, having a separate home is not really needed anymore, you can actually do that if needed on a distro upgrade, here it has complicated things as you are not real up on partitioning and general basic stuff to be honest.
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> random_guy_, Were you using a proprietary graphic driver?
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> random_guy_, THe ubuntu desktop and unity are the same thing and doing that purging was a foolish move.
[17:28] <alex________> hi
[17:32] <random_guy_> ya i use propitiatory nvidia blob
[17:32] <random_guy_> i just tried to clear confs and check !
[17:33] <adamsilver> guys, the brightness controls are not working after installing ubuntu on my laptop… is this related to not using Nvidia drivers?
[17:36] <zetheroo> a friend of mine has installed 14.04 fresh on his Dell laptop - in the Live Session the wifi and USB work fine - after the install wifi and USB ports don't work
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> random_guy_, Preface answer to other here with their nick, propitiatory drivers do not follow kernel upgrades we had one lately, was there on in this update?
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> one*
[17:36] <random_guy_> no it wasnt a kernel update
[17:36] <random_guy_> just a normal one
[17:39] <nodata> hi
[17:39] <nodata> i just installed nullidentd by this command ( sudo apt-get install nullidentd ) ...but why it is not working ?  any help ?
[17:40] <zetheroo> does anyone have an idea why something which works in a Live Session no longer works after installing? I have never had this happen to me, so I am completely green here.
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> random_guy_, Since you have done some voodoo you probably did not need to do it is difficult to tell exactly what is up here, Have you tried to just reload the graphic drivers? Also notice when I talk to you you see random_guy_ at the start of the message, this notifies you I'm at your door like a visual doorbell. ;)
[17:41] <random_guy_> http://filebin.ca/1OmlN3Vwn4C8/lightdm.zip
[17:41] <planetmaker> zetheroo, different driver setup
[17:41] <random_guy_> look my lightdm logs if there is something
[17:41] <zetheroo> planetmaker: the drivers used in the Live Session are different from those used after install?
[17:41] <planetmaker> the full install might have more, tries a - seemingly - more appropriate first. But that one fails
[17:41] <fantastic001> Hello, i have a problem with opening images on ubuntu
[17:41] <planetmaker> not different, but possibly less
[17:41] <planetmaker> but dunno :)
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, Are you helping your friend by asking here?
[17:42] <fantastic001> when i connect lg z1 on ubuntu box i can view files but when i try to open image, it fails
[17:42] <zetheroo> planetmaker: that would kinda make the idea of testing your hardware with the LiveCD pointless :P
[17:42] <fantastic001> i saw phone uses mtp and i cannot figure out where it is mounted
[17:42] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: yes
[17:42] <fantastic001> and, when i move image to my hdd (desktop for example) it opens well
[17:43] <fantastic001> does someone kow where problem is or from where can i start searching for solution?
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, Doing that really complicates a complicated problem for us already, have them come here themselves.
[17:44] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: unfortunately for some people even coming to irc is too much ..
[17:44] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: do you have any insight into the issue and what could be done to fix it?
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, I will not help in this scenario is all, I like my general sanity. ;)
[17:45] <kDycuQUACK> Hey hoping someone had a bit of insight on an audio problem I'm having.
[17:46] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: in that case let's just say I am the one with the issues ;)
[17:46] <kDycuQUACK> While playing audio files on lubuntu 10.04 I get crackling audio and static UNLESS I'm actively typing or moving my mouse
[17:46] <kDycuQUACK> any ideas?
[17:47] <planetmaker> sounds weired, kDycuQUACK. But did you try any distro which is not 4 years old?
[17:47] <kDycuQUACK> I know, I know, I'm in a specific situation that requires me to use this specific distro
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, Really you expect me to help under that scenario, are you retarded, I ask in the nice way possible. ;)
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> nicest
[17:48] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: the guy having the issues can do any command instantly and give me feedback ...
[17:48] <planetmaker> wilee-nilee, anyone can use a web browser-based IRC client. That's really not asked too much
[17:49] <planetmaker> ups... ^ @ zetheroo
[17:50] <zetheroo> planetmaker: heh ... I have never even done that myself ... have always used one client or another :)
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, Not sure why you are telling me this.
[17:50] <braindrop> hey Ubuntu. I'm looking to get a SATA3 controller to add some high speed ports to my Ubuntu system. Since SATA3 is 6gbps, I want something that is at least pcie x2 since otherwise, the pcie will limit the connection to 5gbps. Can anyone make any suggestions? The best I've found so far is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124060&cm_re=sata_controller-_-16-124-060-_-Product
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, Is ups oops?
[17:51] <planetmaker> Yes. Noticed you don't need that lecture after I hit enter
[17:51] <braindrop> There seems to be some argument as to whether or not a Marvell 88SE9230 controller is stable in Linux. So after hours of looking around, I figured I'd stop here for some opinions/experience
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, Cool, just trying to understand. ;)
[17:51] <planetmaker> sorry for the confusion :)
[17:56] <ciccio_> !list
[17:59] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: I am trying to get the user onto the channel
[18:00] <Monotoko> gonna ask here too: I can't seem to figure out how to get bind on my 14.04 server, I've tried to the usual "apt-get install bind9" but it's saying there's no installation candidate
[18:01] <apb1963> so I reformatted my brand new128GB USB 2.0 stick from exFAT to NTFS... 6+ hours later, it said it was successful.  Then I ran fsck on it.  I get "$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).   Remount failed: Input/output error"  Any ideas?  ubuntu 12.04
[18:01] <Monotoko> here's what I'm doing and what's happening: http://pastebin.com/vbKkvFQW
[18:02] <Monotoko> dnsutils isn't bind...
[18:03] <lkyw> hello again, I just had the question if I could retrieve my clipboard history of the last 3 months. would this be possible? it is of critical importance to save my whole data!
[18:03] <Monotoko> lkyw, not unless you have something to save it
[18:03] <Monotoko> otherwise it's gone when you overwrite it
[18:04] <lkyw> Monotoko, what kind of something? like a clipboard history program?
[18:04] <Monotoko> yeah, but it won't record anything that's gone already
[18:04] <Monotoko> esp. the last 3 months
[18:05] <lkyw> how about my keystrokes? can I get my keystrokes ANYHOW for the same period?
[18:05] <lkyw> or only for March is even enough
[18:05] <Monotoko> not unless you had a keylogger installed
[18:05] <kirankumar> hello sir i intalled vertual box  i am new user i want to copy my data from linux into vertual os what i do? help please
[18:05] <drex> lkyw: you should be able to get your bash history, that’s about it
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, you ran a fsck on a ntfs?
[18:06] <mr_enthusiasm> Hey, I'm having a real hard time figuring out how to create some permanent cgroups. I've tried creating a cgconfig.conf file in /etc/ but that doesn't seem to be working. Any suggestions out there?
[18:06] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: Yes
[18:06] <lkyw> drex, could you please help me know what it would be useful for? I am not yet familiar with bash history
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, Bad idea, you should be using windows and a chkdsk
[18:06] <Monotoko> lkyw, it's what you've run in bash - probably not what you're trying to find
[18:06] <drex> open a terminal and type 'history' whithout the quotes
[18:07] <kirankumar> any one help to use vertual machine
[18:07] <drex> anything you typed at the command line
[18:07] <Monotoko> lkyw, what are you actually trying to find?
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> !details | kirankumar Ste the actual issue
[18:07] <compdoc> kirankumar, whats the problem?
[18:07] <lkyw> Monotoko, my password to a disk partition
[18:08] <Monotoko> lkyw, encrypted with Ubuntu's standard system on install?
[18:08] <lkyw> most probably in March, I created this password and copy-pasted it to my keyring program. that's why I ask for the logs
[18:08] <lkyw> Monotoko, I used the gnome disk utility to create the encrypted partititon
[18:08] <lkyw> partition*
[18:09] <Monotoko> lkyw, hm, sounds like you're screwed unless you can find the keyring it was in
[18:09] <Monotoko> do you remember anything about the password? The more you can remember, the more likelyhood you would have of cracking it
[18:09] <lkyw> Monotoko, I've got other tiny hopes to reach the keyring. but finding out what I typed or copy-pasted would solve the problem straight on
[18:10] <zetheroo> DV: you there?
[18:10] <lkyw> Monotoko, can anywhere not be deep-searched in the hardware or so? any "last corner"?
[18:10] <Monotoko> lkyw, no chance, sorry
[18:10] <DV___> Hi, I've done up upgrade from 13 to 14 on my mil dell660. On live USB, everything works, but on reboot the usb and wifi don't work (qualcomm atheos)
[18:10] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: I also ran ntfsfix, and got the identical output.
[18:10] <Monotoko> lkyw, you could ask the NSA
[18:10] <kirankumar> yes sir my problem is . i was a installed a vertual machine and  in machine i installed windows xp.  i have need a data from outside my machine (vertual machin)
[18:10] <Monotoko> but I doubt they'd tell you
[18:10] <Monotoko> :P
[18:10] <zetheroo> DV___: Ah there you are
[18:11] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: please meet DV___  ;)
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, Linux just does not have the tools to do what windows does period. Why are you doing this anyway?
[18:11] <lkyw> Monotoko, if I were in anywhere in the physical proximity to any intelligence staff, I'd even try that
[18:12] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: Because it came preformatted as exfat and based on the reading I've done ntfs is more reliable than exfat
[18:12] <lkyw> Monotoko, despair aside, is there no clipboard program that shows the history before the install?
[18:12] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: DV___ has the Atheros AR9485 chipset and Intel 7 Series/C210 USB chipset
[18:13] <Monotoko> lkyw, no sorry, it doesn't exist so there's nothing to show
[18:13] <maddawg3> depends actually
[18:13] <Monotoko> it stores anything you copy into memory
[18:13] <sarahS> Hi everyone. I have a somewhat odd question, please bear with me. :)
[18:13] <maddawg3> a lot of external drives should still remain FAT
[18:13] <sarahS> I have ubuntu installed on 2 different drives on the same machine.  when i boot from the primary drive i get a local IP of <IP_ADDRESS>.  when i boot from the secondary drive, it receives the ip: <IP_ADDRESS>.   How can i ensure that the secondary has the same IP as the primary (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[18:13] <Monotoko> that memory is wiped when you shit down
[18:13] <Monotoko> *shut down
[18:13] <Monotoko> sorry
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, That is an opinion is all, why are you running these file analysis's?
[18:13] <Monotoko> never touches the hard drive
[18:13] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: plus when I ran chkdsk it barfed... so I figured I'd try linux tools since linux is better than windoze.
[18:13] <maddawg3> but if you need more than a 4GB for a single file then ntfs probably would be better but not all things support ntfs
[18:14] <maddawg3> apb1963 what seems to be the issue?
[18:14] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: It's more reliable since there are two FATs in ntfs... whereas exfat only has one.
[18:14] <apb1963> maddawg3: so I reformatted my brand new128GB USB 2.0 stick from exFAT to NTFS... 6+ hours later, it said it was successful.  Then I ran fsck on it.  I get "$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).   Remount failed: Input/output error"  Any ideas?  ubuntu 12.04
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, "linux is better than windoze." Another opinion it is yours, and spell windows correctly here. The fanboi stuff does not fly here. ;)
[18:14] <kirankumar> #ubottu     can help me? ,  to use of vertual machine
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, Any way I'm done with you, you are misinformed and just not worth messing with.
[18:15] <lkyw> Monotoko, I don't wanna be pushy, but I'd typed in the passwords in text editor before copy-pasting, and closed the text editor after paste. can anything be dug out of gedit text editor logs?
[18:16] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: So you're saying you have a different opinion than the other opinions posted on the Net...
[18:16] <maddawg3> what tool did you use to format it?
[18:16] <apb1963> maddawg3: mkfs
[18:16] <Monotoko> lkyw, again, if you didn't save it - it's all in memory
[18:17] <Monotoko> if you've saved it to the disk, and deleted it - you could try a recovery program
[18:17] <Monotoko> but from what it sounds like, you haven't done that
[18:17] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: I guess your busy now with apb1963 ... but were you able to catch the info I posted?
[18:17] <maddawg3> apb1963 i dont know much about mkfs personally but i had that error before
[18:17] <maddawg3> the smftmirr does not match smft
[18:18] <maddawg3> i dont remember the record but probably irrelevant
[18:18] <maddawg3> i reformatted the drive and it worked
[18:18] <maddawg3> but i was going from fat32 to ntfs
[18:18] <maddawg3> not exfat
[18:18] <apb1963> maddawg3: how did you reformat it?
[18:18] <maddawg3> with gparted
[18:19] <maddawg3> apb1963: you could also try ntfsprog
[18:19] <amriunix> maddawg what kind of fileSystem you use ???
[18:19] <Monotoko>  I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and can't seem to get bind9... here's what I have in my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/x0J0KZ5t and here's what I get when I try to install it: http://pastebin.com/vbKkvFQW
[18:19] <Monotoko> any ideas?
[18:19] <zetheroo> DV___: sorry, I don't know what happened with wilee-nilee. He said if I got you on the channel that he would help you out. :P
[18:20] <apb1963> maddawg3: first thing I tried was kde partition manager... then installed ntfs-3g and ntfsprog....
[18:20] <DV___> :)
[18:20] <kirankumar> in virtual os.   how i use actual data to virtual machin.
[18:20] <maddawg3> amriunix on my Linux i use ext4
[18:20] <maddawg3> try gparted if your just trying to make a ntfs partition
[18:20] <zetheroo> DV___: ikonia is also a pro in this channel ... but I don't see him around at the moment
[18:20] <maddawg3> it comes on the ubuntu install disk i dont think it installs with the OS though
[18:21] <maddawg3> could be wrong about that
[18:21] <maddawg3> but either way... sudo apt-get install gparted
[18:21] <maddawg3> assuming you have a gui...  if not you can use the gparted startup disk
[18:21] <lkyw> Monotoko, there are at least 2 disks where I'd saved it, one external disk and a usb, plus a computer HDD. in HDD and usb the saved files were twofold deleted: once with "wipe" and once with "dd". from what I already heard from people, these two processes rule out any recovery chance. and at the last place it was only wiped, not dded, but this place is the very encrypted partition that I want to access to.
[18:22] <maddawg3> My windows machine uses NTFS for everything but FAT32 for removable
[18:22] <maddawg3> (I keep most of my removable as fat
[18:22] <maddawg3> easier to go between different OSes
[18:22] <OerHeks> !find bind9
[18:23] <kirankumar> any one help me? please
[18:23] <apb1963> maddawg3: Yeah, that's another reason I figured I'd wipe the exfat and go with NTFS.
[18:23] <maddawg3> whats another reason?
[18:23] <maddawg3> NTFS is not widely supported
[18:23] <maddawg3> exFAT is
[18:23] <maddawg3> you need 3rd party stuff for ntfs
[18:23] <apb1963> maddawg3: what you mention... easier to go between different OSes
[18:23] <maddawg3> ntfs is harder tho
[18:23] <maddawg3> fat is easier
[18:23] <maddawg3> i keep all my removable media as FAT so that I can go between OSes
[18:24] <apb1963> maddawg3: o i c
[18:24] <bhavesh> I installed CInnamon on Ubuntu, I think I changed its themes a lot of times, I want to get the original cinnamon look and feel back. I tried my best, but still I get this kind of bugged theme http://i.imgur.com/Op2BXiH.png There's black background for the desktop tweak setting window. Also you cannot read the names of desktop files properly
[18:24] <maddawg3> like at school they use Macs and they need a special utility to read ntfs
[18:24] <zetheroo> Ha! wilee-nilee has left the building ... so much for acting like you will help if the user with the issue joins the room ... next time I will not waste my friends' time :P
[18:24] <maddawg3> which they dont have
[18:24] <apb1963> maddawg3: I misread what you wrote
[18:24] <bhavesh> and when I select some file from the file manager, I cannot read it properly too. Any suggestions?
[18:24] <maddawg3> zetheroo what is the issue
[18:24] <kirankumar> please.. help me..
[18:24] <maddawg3> kirankumar just ask the question
[18:25] <zetheroo> maddawg3: a friend of mine has installed 14.04 fresh on his Dell desktop - in the Live Session the wifi and USB work fine - after the install wifi and USB ports don't work
[18:25] <apb1963> maddawg3: I'm just wondering if shouldn't just use ext4 and (hopefully) be done with it.
[18:25] <Guest48378> kirankumar, long way to go: Please read in "Virtualbox Help" => "4.2. Installing and Maintaining Guest Additions" and "4.3. Shared Folders". - Then you can use data from your host.
[18:26] <bhavesh> And I also get gnome-ish icons
[18:26] <bhavesh> window borders
[18:26] <zetheroo> maddawg3: he is on the channel now (DV___) and the machine has the Atheros AR9485 chipset and Intel 7 Series/C210 USB
[18:26] <apb1963> maddawg3: but I might as well give gparted a whirl.
[18:26] <bhavesh> any help setting everything back to normal?
[18:26] <SchrodingersScat> kirankumar: that would depend on what you are using with the VM, for example virtualbox lets you assign folders that can be read/write.
[18:26] <maddawg3> zetheroo yea i cant help with that i dont think...
[18:27] <zetheroo> maddawg3: I have never had it happen that things which work during the Live Session no longer work after install .. so I am clueless with that
[18:27] <maddawg3> i have never used 14.04
[18:27] <zetheroo> maddawg3: ok
[18:27] <maddawg3> you sure it was installed correctly
[18:27] <kirankumar> maddawg3 sir installed virtual machine. in virtual machine os it not support  linux partition and data
[18:27] <zetheroo> maddawg3: have you ever experienced things working in the Live Session and then not working after install?
[18:27] <zetheroo> maddawg3: dunno ... need to as DV___
[18:28] <maddawg3> cant say I have...
[18:28] <maddawg3> not off the top of my head
[18:29] <apb1963> maddawg3: Hmm.  How do I run it as root?
[18:29] <maddawg3> run what as root?
[18:29] <apb1963> maddawg3: gparted
[18:30] <apb1963> maddawg3: it won't let me run it as me
[18:30] <zetheroo> apb1963: gksudo gparted
[18:30] <maddawg3> gksudo gparted i think
[18:30] <zetheroo> apb1963: or gksu gparted works too
[18:30] <maddawg3> zetheroo what does the output of lsusb show?
[18:30] <moarrr> my ubuntu is very slow
[18:30] <DV___> hi maddawg3:  thanks for your time. it was a native upgrade from 13, but then after reboot the grub was messed up. I did a reinstall (keeping home) of 14 and it fixed grub, but wifi and usb didn't work
[18:30] <maddawg3> !pastebin
[18:30] <moarrr> is thre something wrong with it?
[18:31] <maddawg3> DV___ what does lsusb show?
[18:32] <apb1963> maddawg3: (gksudo:30249): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[18:32] <mariusz__> witam was
[18:32] <apb1963> maddawg3: the reason it can't open the display is because I'm logged in as me.
[18:32] <apb1963> maddawg3: and therefore already own it
[18:33] <mariusz__> ma proble ni chodzom mi filmy na yutubie ubuntu 9 10
[18:34] <Pici> !pl | mariusz__
[18:34] <DV___> maddawg3: there's 9 lines of output and it's not online :-/
[18:34] <maddawg3> apb1963 well i dunno.. gparted never asks to be ran as root
[18:34] <apb1963> maddawg3: nevermind... I was running it from a root window
[18:34] <maddawg3> how are you running it?
[18:34] <zetheroo> maddawg3: since the wifi is not working on the machine it's got no internet connection ...
[18:34] <apb1963> apb1963: erase erase erase :)
[18:34] <apb1963> maddawg3: erase erase erase
[18:34] <DV___> maddawg3: am on another laptop on here :)
[18:34] <maddawg3> so zertheroo?
[18:35] <maddawg3> my commands dont require an internet connection
[18:35] <maddawg3> apb1963 what?
[18:35] <dey> does someone here know if its possible to put a virtual gap between two displays with the intel hd4600 gpus/drivers? like i can with nvidia?
[18:35] <zetheroo> maddawg3: no but to put the output on the channel internet it needed ...
[18:36] <maddawg3> or... you can type it
[18:36] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. Trying to get a Belkin AC Dual-Band WiFi USB adapter to work with Lubuntu. Not sure how to go about this, even to see if it is being recognized by the system
[18:36] <zetheroo> maddawg3: DV___ is trying to sort out a connection :)
[18:36] <maddawg3> does the wired work?
[18:36] <econdudeawesome> talking to me maddawg3? If so, yes, works great
[18:36] <zetheroo> maddawg3: I guess he has to test that ...
[18:36] <apb1963> maddawg3: nvm I figured out what I did wrong... running a check on the usb stick now
[18:36] <maddawg3> in terms of wifi... did that work from the live cd?
[18:37] <zetheroo> maddawg3: yes, he said it worked on the Live Session as well
[18:37] <zetheroo> very odd
[18:37] <maddawg3> he may not have installed ubuntu correctly
[18:37] <maddawg3> if he only did a base system install some stuff might not work but not entirely sure
[18:37] <zetheroo> maddawg3: possibly, though I have seen issues with this wireless chipset in 14.04 ...
[18:37] <apb1963> maddawg3: it says "1 operation pending"... I presume that means it's actually executing?
[18:38] <maddawg3> no you need to execute it apb1963
[18:38] <apb1963> maddawg3: or is it telling me the operation has been queued and I need to kick it off somehow?
[18:38] <maddawg3> i believe there is a check mark or something apb1963
[18:38] <maddawg3> cant remember tho
[18:38] <zetheroo> maddawg3: http://tinypic.com/r/o6fiar/8
[18:39] <apb1963> maddawg3: yeah, found it.
[18:39] <apb1963> maddawg3: And it ends up giving me the identical output to ntfsfix
[18:40] <maddawg3> zetheroo according to that the USB is working
[18:40] <zetheroo> DV___: but wait a minute ... do you have a USB mouse plugged in?
[18:40] <ice9> how to run a program in chroot?
[18:40] <maddawg3> is he using server?
[18:40] <apb1963> maddawg3: guess i'll try chkdsk and see if works any better... I just hate to do that because it takes ages.
[18:41] <maddawg3> apb1963 what happens when it mounts
[18:41] <DV___> zetheroo: yup, another oddity
[18:41] <maddawg3> DV___ you installed the server build?
[18:41] <maddawg3> or is this just how it's coming up?
[18:41] <apb1963> maddawg3: you mean when I actually try to mount mount?  or when gparted tries to mount?
[18:41] <maddawg3> when you try to mount
[18:41] <maddawg3> mount to a directory
[18:41] <maddawg3> or plug it into another machine
[18:42] <DV___> maddawg3: no, desktop
[18:42] <zetheroo> maddawg3: what makes you think its the Server edition?
[18:42] <maddawg3> the last time i had this error it was due to a problem with my flashdrive apb1963
[18:42] <maddawg3> oh nvm sorry i didnt see the background until i scrolled
[18:42] <zetheroo> DV___: so the USB is working ... ?
[18:43] <apb1963> maddawg3:
[18:43] <apb1963> $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).
[18:43] <apb1963> Failed to mount '/dev/sdd1': Input/output error
[18:43] <kirankumar> i shred a folder it not display or mouned in virtual os
[18:43] <apb1963> maddawg3: there's a lot more text... but that's the gist of it
[18:44] <markolo266> hello
[18:44] <zetheroo> DV___: can you plug another USB device in and then repeat the lsusb command and see if the new device shows up?
[18:44] <DV___> zetheroo: I assume the mouse works since it's plugged in on boot? but no, only mouse (usb) works. any other device plugged in doesn't show up
[18:44] <Jordan_U> apb1963: That sounds a lot like faulty hardware.
[18:44] <markolo266> i have a ml350 g5 and it's only certified to run 10.04, can it run 14.04?
[18:44] <Hypnoz> zetheroo: dmesg | tail would show something attached as well
[18:45] <zetheroo> DV___: by "doesn't show up" do you mean when looking with lsusb?
[18:45] <zetheroo> Hypnoz: yes true!
[18:45] <apb1963> Jordan_U: Yeah, I've been thinking I have a defective usb stick... which I don't want to think :(  It's brand new, never used.
[18:45] <markolo266> they use them to test them out at the factory
[18:45] <Jordan_U> apb1963: Run badblocks on it as a test.
[18:46] <DV___> zetheroo: doesn't show in the disk util or in lsusb
[18:46] <kirankumar> i use 4.1.2 vm . i shared a data but not display  vm is what i do?
[18:46] <maddawg3> apb1963 i had this issue before but it was a hardware problem
[18:46] <Hypnoz> anyone running vnc server on 14.04? I don't see the "remote sharing" menu in the OS anymore
[18:47] <apb1963> Jordan_U: excellent idea... any suggested options?
[18:47] <maddawg3> have you tried a different drive apb1963?
[18:47] <zetheroo> maddawg3:  http://tinypic.com/r/t0j5t4/8
[18:47] <zetheroo> DV___: what is it?
[18:47] <zetheroo> Apacer Technology
[18:47] <maddawg3> zetheroo it looks fine
[18:48] <maddawg3> it sees a mouse
[18:48] <maddawg3> so the USB is reading
[18:48] <maddawg3> it also sees all the devices
[18:48] <zetheroo> maddawg3: yes, the new USB device he plugged in is also showing up
[18:48] <Jordan_U> apb1963: I would add "-w" to do a test including writes *which will destroy all current contents on the drive*.
[18:48] <apb1963> maddawg3: yeah, I'm hoping it's not the stick but I think i'm running out of options here.  Different drive????  Not sure what you mean.  This is a usb stick... different drive for what?  A different stick?
[18:48] <maddawg3> apb1963 drive is either short for flash drive or hard drive
[18:48] <maddawg3> in this case we are talking about a flash drive
[18:48] <kirankumar> maddawg3 : sir i shared a folder but it not display in vm os . please help me
[18:49] <maddawg3> excuse me kirankumar don't know what you mean
[18:49] <maddawg3> how did you share it?
[18:49] <Hypnoz> shared with what? virtualbox?
[18:49] <apb1963>  maddawg3: hence my confusion.   I go back and forth... just wanted to be clear in what it was... so I'm not sure how trying a different drive would help?
[18:51] <kirankumar> for intalling a windos os.
[18:51] <cryptopsy> there is no diference
[18:52] <Hypnoz> kirankumar: who makes the software that runs the virtual machine?
[18:52] <cryptopsy> tnx again
[18:52] <maddawg3> apb1963 because a different drive would tell you if something is wrong with the drive
[18:52] <Hypnoz> kirankumar: you had to install a program then you can make the vm inside it right?
[18:52] <apb1963> Jordan_U: it's running... looks like it's going to be awhile.
[18:52] <maddawg3> the drive you are using right now apb1963 is not working
[18:52] <maddawg3> hence you need a different one
[18:52] <markolo266> how do i partition my drive as gpt?
[18:52] <markolo266> since it's 4.5 gb
[18:52] <markolo266> tb
[18:52] <maddawg3> that way we can determine if it's the drive
[18:52] <maddawg3> gpt isn't a format
[18:52] <maddawg3> it's a partition table
[18:53] <markolo266> yes
[18:53] <Hypnoz> markolo266: I use the program "parted" from the command line
[18:53] <kirankumar> in ubbuntu i installed a vm . for study
[18:54] <maddawg3> kirankumar you did not install a VM
[18:54] <Hypnoz> lol
[18:54] <maddawg3> you created a VM in a virtualization product
[18:54] <Hypnoz> round and round we go
[18:54] <maddawg3> lol
[18:54] <Hypnoz> where we stop no one knows
[18:54] <maddawg3> lmao
[18:54] <Guest48378> kirankumar, if you installed "VirtualBox", then you need this in XP vm. Please read => http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#additions-windows
[18:54] <kirankumar> sir i installed my machine roperly
[18:54] <apb1963> maddawg3: running badblocks program... looks like it's going to be quite a while before it's done.
[18:54] <maddawg3> you are not telling us what product you used kirmankumar
[18:55] <maddawg3> you need a PRODUCT to install a VM
[18:55] <maddawg3> it's like saying i installed a .doc
[18:55] <maddawg3> if you created a .doc i'd ask what program you created it in
[18:55] <maddawg3> openoffice, ms word, etc...
[18:55] <Pici> !who
[18:55] <kirankumar> thanks for link
[18:56] <maddawg3> if you are using the VirtualBox program to run the vitual machine the directions are different than if you use vmware
[18:56]  * Guest48378 thanks Pici
[18:56] <maddawg3> apb1963 are you going to try a different usb flash drive
[18:56] <Guest48378> kirankumar, you're welcome.
[18:57] <apb1963> Jordan_U: maddawg3: thanks for the help... I'll report back when it's done... at this rate, it will be hours and hours.  0.81% done in 4 minutes.
[18:57] <maddawg3> ....
[18:57] <ronvach> can anyone enlighten me regarding why 14.04 would send a sollicited router req when booting instead of using a statically defined gateway when enabling IPv6?  I am using HSRP as first hop redundancy instead of router-advertisements, and ubuntu overrides my static gateway with what it gets from a RS, and that eventually times out and I end up with no default route for IPv6 :(
[18:58] <maddawg3> i dunno what you are even doing apb1963
[18:58] <Hypnoz> markolo266: that's kind of a complicated question though, you may want to search google for setting a gpt partition on the drive for specific commands and steps
[18:58] <maddawg3> markolo i can tell you how just give me a sec
[18:58] <maddawg3> i gotta launch gparted
[18:59] <markolo266> wat
[18:59] <apb1963> maddawg3: i'm doing a badblocks test
[18:59] <markolo266> i actually got it
[18:59] <markolo266> parted was easy enough
[18:59] <maddawg3> markolo266 i use gparted and you can create a gpt in there
[18:59] <maddawg3> oh ok
[18:59] <markolo266> i don't have a gui
[18:59] <Hypnoz> mklabel gpt is the first part I believe
[18:59] <markolo266> yea
[18:59] <maddawg3> apb1963 why would you waste the time? try a different drive
[18:59] <markolo266> right now i'm trying to make a partition that will take the entire drive
[18:59] <markolo266> with parted
[18:59] <maddawg3> if the different drive works then you know the issue is bad hardware
[19:00] <apb1963> maddawg3: what do you mean by "works" ? mounting it?
[19:00] <maddawg3> ummm yes
[19:00] <maddawg3> usually that's what it means
[19:00] <maddawg3> if the drive mounts and you can copy stuff to it then it works
[19:00] <apb1963> maddawg3: I was able to mount THIS drive before I reformatted it as NTFS.
[19:00] <maddawg3> that doesnt  mean it works
[19:01] <maddawg3> if you have just one bad block and you reformat it then it could not work
[19:01] <maddawg3> it depends what blocks are bad and where
[19:01] <lkyw> hello again, could you please help me know the command for dd rescue to recover data from a driveß
[19:01] <lkyw> ?
[19:01] <maddawg3> you dont need to do a test to determine that... you just try a different flash drive if it formats fine without an error to ntfs then you will know it's something to do with the current drive
[19:02] <maddawg3> lkyw this is a ubuntu help channel for the ubuntu OS
[19:03] <meek_geek> is ubuntu fully open ?
[19:03] <daftykins> define fully open
[19:03] <maddawg3> linux is open
[19:03] <markolo266> as open as a door
[19:03] <markolo266> when it's open
[19:03] <lkyw> maddawg3 yes, and it's a gnu tool
[19:03] <Jordan_U> meek_geek: Short answer "yes". For the long answer, define "fully open", and "ubuntu" :)
[19:03] <planetmaker> ubuntu ships with proprietary drivers and non-open trademarks
[19:03] <lkyw> maddawg3 I got help earlier here on this topic
[19:04] <cyford> hi is there a way to tune up openvpn on untangle,   my vpn clients transfer at 45kB/s  even on a Gps switch
[19:04] <maddawg3> yes but that's a seperate program they were just being helpful
[19:04] <apb1963> maddawg3: so then you're not saying to just mount a second drive, you're saying to also reformat it.  But even if I do that... it still leaves me in the dark as to what's wrong with THIS drive.  Right now it's telling me $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).  While I don't know what that is, it sounds more like a logical error rather than a physical one.
[19:04] <lkyw> can anyone help about ddrescue?
[19:05] <daftykins> lkyw: type 'man ddrescue'
[19:05] <Pici> cyford: untangle?
[19:05] <maddawg3> apb1964 yes format another drive... do exactly what you did with the drive that is not working
[19:05] <maddawg3> it doesnt tell you WHAT is wrong but it narrows it down
[19:05] <Jordan_U> lkyw: I don't think that ddrescue will help you recover your password.
[19:05] <maddawg3> you cant recover your password if it's a linux password
[19:05] <maddawg3> those are encrypted
[19:05] <maddawg3> cant be viewed or unecrypted
[19:05] <maddawg3> rule is DONT FORGET YOUR PASSWORD
[19:06] <lkyw> Jordan_U, I have some hardware which might have a small chance
[19:06] <maddawg3> in the event you do you can use another account to change it or a rescue shell
[19:06] <Jordan_U> maddawg3: Just a nitpick, but they're "hashed", not "encrypted".
[19:06] <Pici> maddawg3: can you please ease-up on the enter key?
[19:06] <maddawg3> sorry my screen is really really small so i cant see the whole line it goes off the screen and my resolution wont go smaller
[19:06] <maddawg3> err higher i meant
[19:07] <lkyw> Jordan_U, on these devices I might have saved the password, that's why
[19:07] <maddawg3> yes hashed sorry Jordan_U
[19:07] <maddawg3> lkyw what password are you trying to recover?
[19:07] <Jordan_U> lkyw: I thought that the password had been wiped from all drives it had been saved to.
[19:07] <apb1963> maddawg3: ok, just for the sake of conversation... lets say I get the identical error on the second drive.... what info. does that provide?
[19:07] <lkyw> maddawg3, encrypted partition password
[19:08] <maddawg3> apb1963 it says there is something wrong with how you are formatting it and we need to look into that more
[19:08] <planetmaker> he. If there was a way to recover it other than remembering it, then the encryption would not be worth using
[19:08] <maddawg3> lkyw then you are screwed if it's encrypted
[19:08] <gaurav_1> any site for basic java question for coding which covers every topic in java ...?
[19:08] <lkyw> Jordan_U, yes, but I want to try...maddawg3, believe me you're the 209th person I heard this from.
[19:08] <Jordan_U> lkyw: ddrescue is for recovering data that was saved successfully to the drive, but where the drive's hardware is now failing to read that data. On a working drive, you won't see any difference between what ddrescue reads from the drive and what dd, or cat, or "mount" reads from the drive.
[19:08] <meek_geek> Jordan_U, is it opensource ? or opensource with close components? I know Linux comes with non-free firmware but other than that ?
[19:09] <maddawg3> apb1963 if it still doesn't work then we can look at the commands you use to format as well as the products, but from what you are saying you are doing everything right, therefore the only possibility would be the drive you are trying to format
[19:09] <maddawg3> apb1963: have you not done logic in school?
[19:09] <Pici> gaurav_1: ##java   but you will need to be reigstered/identified to join see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration and #freenode for help with that
[19:09] <maddawg3> lkyw: you are hearing that because you cant
[19:10] <gaurav_1> any site for basic java question for coding which covers every topic in java ...?
[19:10] <lkyw> Jordan_U, oh, ok. it's been a long time since I last used dd. I'd forgotten
[19:10] <maddawg3> ddrescue copies blocks and tries to reassemble them to recover your file lkyw... it doesnt usually recover EVERY block, but can recover most of them
[19:10] <maddawg3> if you have an encrypted partition you need EVERY SINGLE block and that is not something ddrescue can do lkyw
[19:11] <maddawg3> i'm a forensics major... trust me i know
[19:11] <maddawg3> recovering encryption keys from a drive is a near impossible task unless you have some serious money and time
[19:11] <Jordan_U> meek_geek: I think the simplest way to investigate what non-free components are included in Ubuntu is to look at a "completely Free" distribution like gNewSense (whose website unfortunately seems to be down at the moment).
[19:11] <maddawg3> and not to mention really fast and powerful computers, and even then you'll probably only have a 50% chance of it working
[19:11] <cyford> Pici,   sorry wrong channel
[19:12] <apb1963> maddawg3: school was so long ago I don't remember ;)  I suspect that if we look into how I'm formatting it, you're going to suggest I use gparted to do so...
[19:12] <nashant> How do I find out what package contains a program?
[19:12] <meek_geek> Jordan_U, Trisquel / Parabola are perfect examples
[19:12] <lkyw> maddawg3, you mean a single file is recovered from its pieces (named blocks)
[19:12] <lkyw> ?
[19:12] <meek_geek> but i want to know about Ubuntu as well
[19:12] <maddawg3> apb1963 well i use gparted personally, but that's not the ONLY program the can reformat drives.... it was a suggestion cuz it's one i'm very familiar with
[19:12] <maddawg3> lkyw yes
[19:12] <Gorroth> omg java, why can't you die
[19:13] <EpicRainbow> What is the Ubuntu help subchannel?
[19:13] <daftykins> !ot | Gorroth
[19:13] <maddawg3> apb1963 from what you told me you did it sounds like you know how to reformat a drive and if you used gparted and got the same issue my next step would be to try a dfferent drive and see if you get the same issue
[19:13] <apb1963> maddawg3: I understand...  does gparted rely on the OS's underlying tools, or does it use it's own algorhythms to write to the disk?
[19:13] <maddawg3> if the other drive gives the same issue then maybe there is a software issue
[19:14] <lkyw> Jordan_U, these drives contained the needed file, but the file was wiped once. can any tool be tried to bring it back?
[19:14] <daftykins> apb1963: have you looked at the SMART data of this strange disk?
[19:14] <apb1963> Jordan_U: so far, 0/0/0 errors.  4.25% done.
[19:14] <maddawg3> apb1963 not entirely sure, but i believe it uses it's own thing
[19:14] <Gorroth> Oh, okay.  I guess we will continue not answer Ubuntu questions here, since most of the people don't have the answers.  You probably would've just been better off not responding to my comment, btw.
[19:15] <nashant> I don't seem to have the dialog command, and I can't install it
[19:15] <apb1963> daftykins: strange?  It's a 128 GB USB 2.0 stick/drive.  Does it even _have_ SMART data?
[19:16] <daftykins> apb1963: oh a flash drive, ok... i didn't see the earlier part of this conversation
[19:16] <Jordan_U> lkyw: No software tool. Normal software can only read what the drive gives it, which will always be the last data successfully written (or garbage, if the drive is failing). I've heard claims that fancy forensic tools (taking the drive apart in a clean room) can recover overwritten data.
[19:16] <llutz> !info dialog  | nashant
[19:16] <EpicRainbow> I need some help with Grub2. It works fine but the Grub screen resolution is in the 600's. I just installed the latest Nvidia driver and everything is smooth now too. I already edited /etc/default/grub and changed GRUB_GFXMODE to 1920x1080. After that I did sudo update-grub. However the screen resolution hasn't changed. How can I fix that?
[19:16] <nashant> llutz: Well in that case my apt seems to be broken.
[19:17] <user1345> are you back testdr?
[19:17] <maddawg3> daftykins yea it's a flash drive... he reformatted from exfat to ntfs
[19:17] <nashant> nope
[19:17] <nashant> fixed
[19:17] <maddawg3> but he keeps getting errors mounting it... i suggested trying to use a different flash drive to see if he had the same issue but we keep going around in circles
[19:17] <nashant> A few reboots and it's now ok it would seem
[19:17] <aFeijo> damn, my ubuntu 14.04 wont mount my Galaxy S4 thru the USB cable... not an original cable, does it matter?
[19:18] <lkyw> Jordan_U, maybe the tools you refer to are those about which I talked with people today. scrambling the drive, inserting the flash in a reader, getting the raw data out, and sorting it. is it what you refer to?
[19:19] <Jordan_U> lkyw: So if you're desparate, you can pay a *lot* of mony (likely at least in the thousands USD) to someone who will almost certainly still fail to retrieve your old password or keyring from some unknown portion of the drive. But realize that no matter how much money you spend, you're still much more likely to come out of it with much less money and no more data.
[19:20] <planetmaker> ask the NSA for their backup copy of your drive or password ;)
[19:20] <Under-C-Capt> anybody have some insight on wireless not connecting automatically after suspend?
[19:20] <lkyw> Jordan_U, do you mean this for the raw data method I wrote about?
[19:21] <Under-C-Capt> i tried checking "available to all users" and havent tried to suspend the box yet
[19:21] <apb1963> daftykins: My original message:  so I reformatted my brand new128GB USB 2.0 stick from exFAT to NTFS... 6+ hours later, it said it was successful. Then I ran fsck on it. I get "$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3). Remount failed: Input/output error" Any ideas? ubuntu 12.04
[19:21] <lkyw> planetmaker, if you can guarantee me that they have a copy of every hard drive, I can do that
[19:22] <maddawg3> well they wont do it
[19:22] <maddawg3> lol even if they did
[19:22] <planetmaker> sorry, I live in a target country of NSA. Not a source country
[19:22] <Under-C-Capt> ah i see I need a more "n00bish" channel any suggestions?  I'm new to this server
[19:22] <maddawg3> that would mean they'd have to admit they have all your files, which they very well may, but if you asked for backup copies they'd tell you to take a hike and that you are crazy
[19:22] <apb1963> soooooo tired of my irc client continually crashing :(
[19:22] <daftykins> apb1963: not sure that running fsck on NTFS is wise in the first instance.
[19:23] <apb1963> daftykins: fsck.ntfs
[19:23] <maddawg3> i still vote trying another drive
[19:24] <lkyw> Jordan_U, other people haven't been so hopeless about searching the drive. now we may be really getting out of ubuntu terrain, but I'm curious, because you also said that you heard them as "claims". if we refer to the same thing.
[19:24] <maddawg3> if the other drive works then we know it's a problem with the failed drive, therefore we can either figure out what the problem is OR just say screw it
[19:24] <planetmaker> lkyw, anyway, to restore physically overwritten data requires attaching a new read-out method to the drive which does not read 1 or 0 but reads the values in between for each bit. That might give later an idea as to what was ther prior to the last write. Or maybe not. Anyway, much money and effort involved
[19:24] <maddawg3> flash drives are a dime a dozen these days
[19:24] <bhuvan_> hi friends.. i need help regarding my sound drivers... where can i post my query?
[19:24] <maddawg3> in fact i found an 8GB flash at school yesterday
[19:24] <Jordan_U> Under-C-Capt: This channel is perfectly fine for new users. If nobody answers your question it just means that nobody that's active at the moment knows the answer.
[19:24] <apb1963> maddawg3: how much do you pay for a 128 GB drive?
[19:24] <maddawg3> bhuvan right here
[19:24] <TBotNik> All, can not get movies to play on my kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop.  Wrote this up at:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201626-video-player-2.html#post951814
[19:24] <Under-C-Capt> oic lol
[19:25] <bhuvan_> hi, im facing an issue with trusty.. aplay -l doesnt list my sound card
[19:25] <maddawg3> apb1963 those are like maybe $50 at bestbuy
[19:25] <Guest48378> apb1963, "... $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).  While I don't know what that is,  ..." => likely logical error (just reformat) => http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs-mft.htm
[19:25] <Under-C-Capt> I am quickly rediscovering this linux flavor and I love it more and more the more I use it
[19:25] <bhuvan_> neither it is visible in the sound preferences
[19:25] <TBotNik> All, hope someone out here know how to unravel all the player/codec issues, cause never tried any AV stuff before!
[19:25] <maddawg3> microcenter has them for less
[19:25] <lkyw> can the money point be bettered if one has access to university?
[19:25] <apb1963> maddawg3: you must be loaded!  I'm poor.
[19:25] <maddawg3> Guest48378 he's done that many times
[19:26] <maddawg3> apb1963... ummm no... $50 is less than a tank of gas
[19:26] <planetmaker> lkyw, no. What would a university help there?
[19:26] <daftykins> apb1963: i still don't think that's wise. rather than be concerned with its' condition under Linux, reformat it in Windows then copy data to and from it - if it's ok, fine - if not, bigger problems.
[19:26] <maddawg3> but either way your drive might be under warranty
[19:26] <lkyw> planetmaker, the infrastructure, maybe
[19:26] <planetmaker> you need an IT forensics lab and specialist. As said: prices are in the k€ for these services
[19:26] <maddawg3> apb1963 if you try another drive and the reformating works then something is clearly wrong with the 128gb
[19:27] <maddawg3> that's what I do planetmaker
[19:27] <maddawg3> and i told him that recovering that stuff is not something he can do at home and even if he hired one of us i cant even give him a 50% guarentee
[19:27] <planetmaker> then you got a prospective customer here :D
[19:27] <maddawg3> guarantee*
[19:27] <apb1963> Guest48378: it sounds like a logical error to me too.
[19:28] <sarahS> what is the best practice for creating scheduled bootable backups of my box with ubuntu 14.04?
[19:28] <maddawg3> apb1963 that can also happen with a hardware error not just logical
[19:28] <sarahS> lots of conflicting info on the web...
[19:28] <bhuvan_> im facing an issue with trusty.. aplay -l doesnt list my sound card, nor it is visible in the sound preferences.. while booting it says hda-intel no audio codecs found
[19:28] <Under-C-Capt> argg my frikken domain name still doesnt work w/ me olde google site!!
[19:28] <maddawg3> if it's losing connection it can happen
[19:28] <apb1963> daftykins: I did that first...   hang on... let me find the error that returned...
[19:28] <maddawg3> sarahS what are you using to back it up?
[19:28] <maddawg3> there are lots of "correct" ways
[19:29] <sarahS> nothing yet....so far thinking rsync
[19:29] <maddawg3> hence why you are getting conflicting stuff online
[19:29] <sarahS> but will need to figure out how to handle grub etc
[19:29] <sarahS> i just wanted opinions as to what the best strategy is
[19:30] <apb1963> sarahS: Look into Back In Time...  it uses rsync as the back end.  Makes life a lot easier... took me a few minutes to figure out but now I'm reasonably happy with it's ease of use.
[19:30] <Guest48378> apb1963, I found this, see #5 => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1333205
[19:30] <sarahS> apb1963: can it be scheduled? cron job?
[19:30] <apb1963> sarahS: it does it for you automagically.
[19:30] <braindrop> sarahS: I'm a fan of rsync for backups of any kind. very powerful tool, requires some work to make it do exactly what you want
[19:31] <sarahS> thanks....reading up on it now.
[19:31] <Under-C-Capt> automagically lol I like that
[19:31] <maddawg3> see look at that article apb193... hardware fault
[19:31] <sarahS> braindrop: me too, but this box is more important than my personal ones....so I'm kinda scared to trust myself working directly with rsync
[19:31] <maddawg3> if you want to know if it's a hardware fault then try another drive
[19:32] <TBotNik> Repeating All, can not get movies to play on my kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop.  Wrote this up at:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201626-video-player-2.html#post951814
[19:32] <TBotNik> All, hope someone out here know how to unravel all the player/codec issues, cause never tried any AV stuff before!
[19:32] <apb1963> maddawg3: so far, I'm getting 0 errors from badblocks program.  Only 6% done though.
[19:32] <maddawg3> sarahs I wish i could help but i dont make bootable copies... other than the snapshots my vmware server takes..  i have my files sftp to a backup location internally tho
[19:33] <maddawg3> apb1963: again WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR TIME? try another drive
[19:33] <maddawg3> that will answer it
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> TBotNik, Have you installed the restricted-extras?
[19:33] <maddawg3> if the other drive works then it's a hardware issue with the 128GB drive... THEN you can spend hours scanning or testing it with badblocks if that makes you happy
[19:33] <sarahS> this is for a server...so if it goes down, (which we have had happen) we want to be able to just swap it out immediately and boot from the backup
[19:33] <sarahS> and have most of our state intact
[19:33] <Under-C-Capt> I've dealt with an issue like that before w/ the hard drive and sich...these days its usually best to just get a new hard drive storage is so cheap these days
[19:34] <maddawg3> sarahS hence why i use vmware snapshots
[19:34] <maddawg3> they are instant and automatic
[19:34] <grv> i m trying to resister on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but can't recieve any email by freenode on my typed mail address on the command
[19:34] <Jordan_U> lkyw: What data is so important that you are still trying to hold on to hope of recovery?
[19:34] <maddawg3> lkyw have you tried EnCase?
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> grv, Ask #freenode
[19:34] <lkyw> Jordan_U everything I have.
[19:34] <maddawg3> that MIGHT work, but it's like $3k to buy
[19:34] <lkyw> maddawg3, never heard of it
[19:35] <maddawg3> and you'll need a VERY long time
[19:35] <maddawg3> it's forensics software that we use in police work and fbi work
[19:35] <grv> i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode
[19:35] <maddawg3> but it takes training to use
[19:35] <grv> i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode
[19:35] <maddawg3> stop repeating yourself
[19:35] <Under-C-Capt> aic it appears there is no scrollback on my irc client...using plain old XChat...any suggestions for improvement all?
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> !patience | grv
[19:35] <grv> i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode
[19:35] <sarahS> maddawg3: that's an interesting strategy....but if the vmware host goes down (say a failed drive), you would have to rebuild that and reconfigure the dns / static ip etc
[19:36] <Jordan_U> lkyw: What would you say is the most important part of that everything?
[19:36] <sarahS> no?
[19:36] <maddawg3> sarahS vmware has redundancy
[19:36] <apb1963> maddawg3:  I just read it... I don't see where it says anything about it being hardware.... in fact, it explicitly says it's software - as the MFT is the Master File Table
[19:36] <maddawg3> we have 32 different hosts and it's a cluster
[19:36] <sarahS> for the guest sure
[19:36] <lkyw> Jordan_U , what difference would it make? when the data is not recoverable?
[19:36] <maddawg3> apb1963: wow... did you forget to read ?
[19:36] <maddawg3> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[19:36] <maddawg3> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware
[19:36] <sarahS> but the machine the vmware is hosted on is the weak link there
[19:37] <maddawg3> there are 3 possibilities... seeing as you dont use RAID on it that cant be the issue
[19:37] <gaurav_1> i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode
[19:37] <gaurav_1> i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode
[19:37] <maddawg3> if NTFS is inconsistent then MAYBE it will be inconsistent on the other drive
[19:37] <Pici> gaurav_1: please ask in #freenode
[19:37] <Jordan_U> gaurav_1: Please join #freenode for questions about / problems with registering.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> gaurav_1, Stop repeating go to #freenode and address it there
[19:37] <maddawg3> if it's a hardware fault then the other drive will fix that
[19:38] <maddawg3> MFT does not mean it isnt hardware
[19:38] <maddawg3> you need hardware for an NFT to even work apb1963
[19:39] <maddawg3> it isn't just magically there, if there is something wrong with the drive then there will be something wrong with the MFT
[19:39] <maddawg3> i dont know how else to explain it apb1963 and frankly i dont know why you wont just take the 3 seconds it's gonna take to try another drive
[19:39] <robotdevil> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 is this still relevant ?
[19:39] <maddawg3> JUST TRY IT
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, IN what way?
[19:40] <robotdevil> its quite dated
[19:41] <K1rk> Hello is there a way to define a custom /etc/cron.d/ path?  I'd like to make my own custom /etc/cron.Xyz/ path that can contain working Cron files.  I want /etc/cron.d/ to continue to function.
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, In general for conky yes, however there are thousands probably millions of links on the web for conky.
[19:41] <apb1963> maddawg3: Formatting takes longer than 3 seconds.... I started the badblocks programming and I have a mental block against throwing away time already invested.  It takes 6+ hours (I went to bed after that so I don't have the actual time) to format a 128GB disk...  OTH, I do have an 8GB drive, but I'd still have to kill the job in progress to do it.
[19:42] <apb1963> s/programming/program/
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, Pretty basic stuff, that wont brick your computer so not much to worry about.
[19:42] <maddawg3> true apb1963 but if it doesnt work then imagine you'll be saving 6+ hours by not running badblocks
[19:42] <maddawg3> cuz then we'll know it's not the drive
[19:43] <maddawg3> if we discover it is the drive then call the manufacture and get a warranty replacement.. usually they have a 1yr warranty on those things
[19:44] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: yes had it running before. Used a sample.rc before thou, would like a from scratch.
[19:44] <maddawg3> like a mecahnic isn't gonna just rip your engine out if you say your car doesnt work cuz that'd take too long
[19:44] <maddawg3> they'd start with the easy solutions then go to the more difficult one
[19:44] <robotdevil> also need to know how to load it boot without using the DE autostart option
[19:45] <maddawg3> also if badblocks comes back as failed and didnt repair anything you will have wasted all the time scanning a drive that was unfixable in the first place
[19:46] <maddawg3> if you try another drive and it works then you'll know for sure something is wrong with the 128GB... ONLY then you can choose to run badblocks to see if you can either figure it out or repair it
[19:46] <maddawg3> if you cant then get a warranty replacement... these are the logical steps to try...
[19:46] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: Never saw any HOWTO mentioning such a thing!
[19:46] <apb1963> maddawg3: Unfortunately I don't speak or read Chinese, so I don't know who the manufacturer is... got it off ebay... and while I could in fact return it, and will likely end up doing so... I think it's not unreasonable to run a test program on the drive that's not working, rather than trying to make assumptions based on what a DIFFERENT drive does or does not do.
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil> also need to know how to load it boot without using the DE autostart option Start at boot that makes no sense.
[19:47] <apb1963> maddawg3: ultimately, I'll do both.
[19:47] <maddawg3> apb1963 that makes zero sense... you dont know if it's drive issue or not at this point
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> TBotNik, Context please.
[19:48] <maddawg3> for all we know something could be going wrong with the formatting process, but we don't know that cuz you didnt try to format another drive
[19:48] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: it need to know where to load it instead of in using the desktop environments auto start feature
[19:48] <maddawg3> if you format ANOTHER drive successfully then we can rule out the software messing up the format
[19:48] <maddawg3> if it's a software problem THEN we can help... if it's a hardware issue we cant
[19:49] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: read from an /etc folder I imagine
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> TBotNik, Ah the restricted extras it is in wiki's.
[19:49] <apb1963> maddawg3: but it's 10% done!
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, This a school assignment?
[19:49] <maddawg3> ok then come back when it's done
[19:49] <maddawg3> clearly we cant help you now
[19:50] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: ??? :-)
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> TBotNik, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, Simple question.
[19:50] <maddawg3> i also fail to see why you can format a drive while that is scanning
[19:50] <maddawg3> do you not have more than 1USB port available?
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, I asked as we don;t do homework here, sounds like homework.
[19:51] <apb1963> maddawg3: I do... but if I use a different port, then we've introduced an additional variable.
[19:51] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: thought you might know, sorry
[19:51] <apb1963> maddawg3: maybe there's something wrong with the port... not the drive.
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, And to me the lack of an answer points to homework. ;)
[19:51] <maddawg3> did you try the drive in another port then?
[19:51] <apb1963> maddawg3: no, didn't think of that until just now
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> and how you have worded you requests
[19:52] <apb1963> maddawg3: and quite honestly, I'm a bit afraid of formatting a second one... if it fails, I may end up with TWO unusable drives.
[19:52] <maddawg3> you can just format the other one back using another computer
[19:53] <guywithquestions> hello?
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> guywithquestions, goodbye?
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:53] <apb1963> maddawg3: I don't have another computer.
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> guywithquestions, no need for hello's state the support issue to the channel for help.
[19:54] <guywithquestions> sorry it was taking awhile to load yall
[19:56] <arvat> Hi evrybody
[19:57] <amriunix> arvat what's up !!! :)
[19:58] <lmat> when I run VNC server, it slows things down a lot. Also, the update is painfully slow (even when the viewer is running on the same machine!)
[19:58] <lmat> I'm running Unity. Are there any tricks I should be making use of?
[19:59] <pdo_fn14> Feels weird in firefox, liking I'm affected with scam.
[19:59] <guywithquestions> can i take android off my phone all the way and then put ubuntu on??? i dont want android on at all
[19:59] <amriunix> lmat a you use the root per ???
[19:59] <lmat> amriunix: I don't understand that question :(
[20:00] <lmat> amriunix: What root?
[20:00] <amriunix> guywithquestions yeah you can !!! ;)
[20:00] <apb1963> maddawg3: what's interesting is that it formatted sucessfully.... normally I'd just start using it but ended up doing the fsck...   Heck, normally I'd just use it out of the box...
[20:00] <Daani> Has anyone encountered this problem when trying to install ubuntu instead of windows 7, i have a bootable usb, ubuntu install files on it, restart my computer with the correct setting of booting from usb. Computer says "Reboot and Select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key"
[20:00] <Daani> i made the usb bootable in windows 7
[20:01] <amriunix> lmat i mean have you run the vnc server with the root permission ????
[20:01] <planetmaker> you need to select "boot from usb" in your bios, Daani
[20:01] <lmat> amriunix: Nope. Should I?
[20:01] <pdo_fn14> Clicking some query in Ctrl+K, but how to revert it back to no redirected anymore
[20:01] <Daani> planetmaker, i have set the 1st boot device as my removable device(usb)
[20:01] <amriunix> lmat yeah dude !!!
[20:02] <lmat> amriunix: okay, just a sec ^_^
[20:02] <compdoc> lmat, you should be able to run vncserver as your user
[20:02] <lmat> compdoc: I am able to.
[20:02] <guywithquestions> armunix, how do i do all that?
[20:02] <lmat> compdoc: It runs fine....except that it's *painfully* slow.
[20:03] <Jordan_U> Daani: How did you get ubuntu to "install files on" your USB drive?
[20:03] <amriunix> lmat every is good ???
[20:03] <lmat> compdoc: The server slows down tremendously, and it takes many seconds to get the image back to the client (even though the client is on the same machine!)
[20:03] <lmat> amriunix: NO! It's exactly the same ^_^
[20:03] <compdoc> lmat, you use an encripted tunnel, like a vpn?
[20:03] <lmat> no. It's the same machine!
[20:03] <amriunix> lmat every think is good ???
[20:04] <Daani> Jordan_U:  sorry, the spelling was not correct. the files from the image are placed on the usb
[20:04] <lmat> I don't know about every think, but the performance is very bad.
[20:04] <compdoc> running the client from the same machine might be the roblem
[20:04] <compdoc> problem
[20:04] <lmat> compdoc: hmm
[20:04] <lmat> compdoc: Does it matter if it's a virtual machine? ^_^
[20:05] <amriunix> lmat may be the performance of the picture or what ????
[20:05] <lmat> It didn't used to be a problem. I had run this before and it worked pretty well :(
[20:05] <guywithquestions> armunix, how do i do that?
[20:05] <maddawg3> Daani that's not how you create a bootable USB
[20:05] <amriunix> guywithquestions bro what kind of mobile device you have ????
[20:05] <lkyw> could you please tell me how I denote a file location on terminal: for ex. if my ubuntu username is lkyw, would this be true: /dev/sda1/lkyw/Documents/file.txt ?
[20:05] <maddawg3> are you trying to create a bootable USB with the ubuntu live image on it daani?
[20:06] <compdoc> gotta reboot
[20:06] <Jordan_U> Daani: You can't just copy files to a USB drive to make the drive bootable. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[20:06] <planetmaker> Daani, dd if=/path/to/boot_iso of=/dev/usbdevice
[20:06] <lmat> lkyw: no
[20:06] <maddawg3> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[20:06] <maddawg3> oops
[20:06] <planetmaker> worked for me
[20:07] <maddawg3> Jordan_U beat me to it
[20:07] <lmat> lkyw: You may be looking for  ~/Documents/file.txt ?
[20:07] <SkoobyNoob> wasup peep
[20:07] <SkoobyNoob> s
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> Daani, What app did you use to load the usb in windows?
[20:07] <lmat> lkyw: your home directory (~) is at  /home/$USER
[20:07] <lkyw> lmat, what would be the correct one then? I need a location which contains "/dev/sda1"
[20:07] <maddawg3> he didnt wilee-nilee he just copied them from the image and flagged the drive as bootable
[20:07] <lmat> lkyw: Why ?
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, Do you have a support issue for the channel?
[20:07] <guywithquestions> i have a virgin mobile kyrocera phone
[20:07] <maddawg3> he cant do that
[20:07] <lmat> lkyw: (In other words, you can't do that, but maybe you can do what you want in another way ^_^)
[20:07] <lkyw> lmat, sorry, it must be /dev/sdb1
[20:07] <SkoobyNoob> yes
[20:07] <lmat> lkyw: don't matter ^_^
[20:07] <SkoobyNoob> i have plenty of support issues
[20:08] <maddawg3> ok SkoobyNoob.. then just ask
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, Than spit it out in detail to the channel please
[20:08] <lmat> lkyw: /dev/sdb1 is a file (if you have a sane linux), not a directory.
[20:08] <lkyw> lmat, I'd like to show a file location of an external drive on terminal
[20:08] <SkoobyNoob> well first
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, I one post and stop with the comments.
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> In*
[20:08] <lkyw> that is what I want to do
[20:08] <SkoobyNoob> what kind of support you guys serve?
[20:08] <maddawg3> ... free support
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, Ubuntu support
[20:08] <SkoobyNoob> ok badass
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, Read the channel header
[20:09] <maddawg3> free ubuntu support... not emotional
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> yeah
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> i did
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> but you come across some wierd channels
[20:09] <maddawg3> then why did you ask?
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, Dude you are spammimg the channel get to the issue and post it all in one post.
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> im new to ubuntu
[20:09] <lmat> lkyw: Then you need to mount that drive.
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> im new to linux
[20:09] <lmat> lkyw: check   ls /media/$USER
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> actually
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> off to ignore with yah
[20:10] <SkoobyNoob> but i been picking uppretty good this past week
[20:10] <maddawg3> OK THEN ASK THE DAMN QUESTION SKOOBYNOOB, OR LEAVE
[20:10] <qin> !caps | maddawg3
[20:10] <qin> oh
[20:11] <Jordan_U> maddawg3: Please drop the caps and watch your language.
[20:11] <lkyw> lmat, it lists the name of the drive
[20:11] <lmat> lkyw: okay, then get a listing in there!
[20:11] <lmat> lkyw: In other words, that's what you're looking for
[20:11] <lkyw> lmat, thank you! but it is not what I need
[20:11] <guywithquestions> hey does anybody know how to totally erase android on a phone and then put on ubuntu? i dont want it on at all
[20:11] <lmat> lkyw: ls  /media/$USER/<name of drive>/<whatever directory you want>/<file>
[20:12] <SkoobyNoob> i sorry dude im at work
[20:12] <SkoobyNoob> and i hae to do other things while im doing this also
[20:12] <OerHeks> !phone | guywithquestions
[20:12] <SkoobyNoob> i want to change a bluetooth address
[20:12] <SkoobyNoob> i downloaded bluez
[20:12] <maddawg3> change  a bluetooth address ?
[20:12] <SkoobyNoob> the latest version
[20:13] <SkoobyNoob> yes
[20:13] <maddawg3> i'm not sure what you mean
[20:13] <lkyw> lmat, now it became clear for me, it works, thank you!
[20:13] <SkoobyNoob> change the mac address
[20:13] <lmat> lkyw: I'm glad and happy and extatic and excited for you!
[20:13] <lmat> lkyw: I think I'll go listen to Simon and Garfunkle now
[20:13] <nashant> I don't suppose anyone can help me getting HDMI audio from my nvidia GT210 can they? I'm currently messing around with pacmd and pactl but I have no idea what I'm doing
[20:13] <SkoobyNoob> so i can hook up a headset that
[20:13] <lkyw> lmat, good for you! I hope you keep that spirit for the remaining hours
[20:14] <SkoobyNoob> uses a dongle
[20:14] <SkoobyNoob> but i wanna hook it up to my tablet
[20:14] <maddawg3> skoobynoob first... why do you need to change the MAC address for that? second I'm not sure what bluez is, 3rd have you looked here: http://blog.petrilopia.net/hacking/change-your-bluetooth-device-mac-address/
[20:14] <Jordan_U> SkoobyNoob: What is your end goal? (Please try to answer on a single line, to avoid cluttering the channel).
[20:14] <jcabb> SkoobyNoob, bdaddr should do it
[20:15] <SkoobyNoob> yes i have bdaddr
[20:15] <SkoobyNoob> well my tablet wont catch my headset
[20:15] <maddawg3> did you read that information SkoobyNoob?
[20:15] <SkoobyNoob> i figure since it needs a dongle
[20:15] <maddawg3> huh?
[20:16] <SkoobyNoob> and i know you can change the mac address of a sixasis controller
[20:16] <SkoobyNoob> so i  figure you could do that on almost any device
[20:16] <maddawg3> first your bluetooth needs to support HSP profile
[20:16] <maddawg3> why does the MAC address have anything to do with the headset skoobynoob
[20:17] <SkoobyNoob> because that is the address of the bluettooth
[20:17] <maddawg3> ....
[20:17] <maddawg3> that makes no sense
[20:17] <SkoobyNoob> bluetooth mac address
[20:17] <Jordan_U> SkoobyNoob: So your and goal is to get your bluetooth headset to work with your tablet? And your tablet is running Ubuntu?
[20:17] <maddawg3> why does that matter for connecting to the headset
[20:17] <maddawg3> the mac address is just a hardware identifier
[20:17] <SkoobyNoob> no my tablet doesnt run ubuntu
[20:18] <maddawg3> well then you are definitley in the wrong channel
[20:18] <maddawg3> lol
[20:18] <SkoobyNoob> im using bdaddr in ubuntu
[20:18] <maddawg3> .....
[20:18] <SkoobyNoob> in my laptop
[20:18] <SkoobyNoob> you guys are like desperate or something
[20:18] <maddawg3> well you cant change the mac address with another computer
[20:18] <SkoobyNoob> instead of helping
[20:18] <maddawg3> the mac address is hardcoded... however you can FAKE one with ubuntu, but that wont matter if you are moving it to antoehr machine
[20:19] <SkoobyNoob> ok whywould you be able o change the address of the ps3 controller?
[20:19] <maddawg3> what?