[12:00] <carthik> cafuego_, i am excited about having someone I love switch to ubuntu
[12:00] <cafuego_> Just big enough to fit a fiberoptic cable though
[12:00] <cafuego_> carthik: I'd glag you're excited, but I am amready married ;-)
[12:00] <sockpuppe1> hello cafuego
[12:01] <carthik> cafuego_, you are ahead in everything, dammit!
[12:01] <cafuego_> carthik: spacetime is conspiring against you!
[12:01] <cafuego_> sockpuppe1: mornin'!
[12:01] <trans_err> mustard5: still no go
[12:01] <trans_err> :/
[12:01] <palewolf> hi all, looking for help using kalarm in ubuntu breezy. for some reason, the system tray option is greyed out and won't show up on the panel. any reason/ideas?
[12:01] <miksu> hey what's up with your dsl-companies (something for a break with all this waiting) i got a free dsl modem + dvd player when i opened up a dna gsm and dna adsl .. is it as good in your homeland?
[12:01] <mustard5> trans_err, hmmm....
[12:01] <sockpuppe1> morning?! its 6 pm here!
[12:02] <carthik> Does anyone have a good "push" ssh+rsync backup script they want to share with a newbie?
[12:02] <carthik> If not, I ill have to write my own... that is copy+paste creatively...
[12:02] <mustard5> I know I had trouble when I been running totem or audacity just prior to running xawtv.....
[12:02] <thechitowncubs> How can i reset my firefox/gnome fonts back to default?
[12:02] <mustard5> without access to sound it would show no picture
[12:03] <carthik> thechitowncubs, default is "Sans" change application font in system -> preferences -> fonts
[12:03] <mustard5> but yours isnt picking up channels on the scan whic is a problem
[12:03] <trans_err> mustard5: im going to try it in windows later and make sure it isnt a hardware issue
[12:03] <BlankB> carthik: I have one...just a minute.
[12:03] <thechitowncubs> Any idea about firefox?
[12:03] <trans_err> mustard5: thanks for all the help
[12:03] <Slaj_R> question:  Ever since my last update (running Breezy beta on an HP pavilion), sometimes my input freaks out; for example, my last text entry will suddently paste itself or a duplicate of whatever window I'm working in will open.  Anyone else see this behaviour lately?
[12:03] <mustard5> ok trans_err , your very close to having it working
[12:03] <carthik> BlankB<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if you please :)
[12:04] <sockpuppe1> slaj_r what version of ubuntu u using?
[12:04] <mustard5> I have fiddled with xawtv for months now with hoary and now breezy...in breezy it has worked well
[12:04] <Slaj_R> latest.
[12:04] <Slaj_R> I don't have a number handy
[12:04] <sockpuppe1> well im upgrading to the lattest
[12:04] <sockpuppe1> and I havve hp
[12:05] <Slaj_R> what's a quick way to find that?
[12:05] <cpalma> is there any document about hardening ubuntu specifically?
[12:05] <mustard5> cpalma, I believe there is
[12:05] <sockpuppe1> uname -r will tell you ubuntu kernel version
[12:05] <mustard5> on the forums I have read a thread
[12:05] <cpalma> mustard5: oh cool, i'll check that, thanks
[12:05] <Dreamglider> can anyone help me with this -> http://pastebin.com/391685
[12:05] <mustard5> might have been in the security forum
[12:05] <sockpuppe1> if there is2-6-10
[12:06] <sockpuppe1> you have hoary
[12:06] <sockpuppe1> if its 2-6-12 its breezy
[12:06] <Slaj_R> 2.6.12
[12:06] <sockpuppe1> breezy it is!
[12:06] <sockpuppe1> what hp do you have?
[12:07] <Slaj_R> Pavilion ze4900 laptop.
[12:07] <miksu> COOL my dsl speed is doubled in november..2 MEG =)
[12:07] <sockpuppe1> cant help ypu there i have their desktops
[12:07] <QMario> Hello Seveas and ompaul!!! :)
[12:07] <Slaj_R> I'll wait and see if it's a /dev/hands problem :)
[12:07] <mustard5> Dreamglider, you don't have build-essential installed?
[12:07] <sockpuppe1> lol
[12:07] <QMario> What kind of DSL do you have miksu?
[12:08] <jhonny> how can i change monitor vertical frenquencies manually? i'm on breezy, using nvidia-glx
[12:08] <mustard5> your missing a compiler it seems, Dreamglider
[12:08] <QMario> 1 more day until Breezy is officially released!!! :-D
[12:08] <Dreamglider> mustard5, what need i install
[12:08] <sockpuppe1> qmario im upgrading as we speak
[12:08] <kemik> Dreamglider:  build-essential
[12:08] <mustard5> you on hoary Dreamglider ?
[12:08] <miksu> qmario what do you mean? just a standard phoneline+dsl modem+wlan
[12:09] <QMario> Miksu, I meant ADSL?
[12:09] <mustard5> build essential , Dreamglider
[12:09] <mustard5> build-essential , Dreamglider
[12:09] <Dreamglider> i m on breezy
[12:09] <miksu> qmario still dont understand
[12:09] <brodmann> hey, i'm trying to set up dual monitors on my ati card, where can i find the correct code to change in xorg?
[12:09] <mustard5> ah ok
[12:09] <mustard5> I haven't seen a build essential in breezy yet :D
[12:09] <mustard5> hehe
[12:09] <QMario> Miksu, ADSL is faster than normal DSL.
[12:09] <mustard5> I assume its there somewhere :D
[12:09] <Dreamglider> apt-get install build-essential ?
[12:09] <mustard5> yes
[12:09] <QMario> It is similar to using cable/Road Runner.
[12:10] <sockpuppe1> road runner
[12:10] <sockpuppe1> ?!
[12:10] <QMario> Miksu, what provider are you with?
[12:10] <miksu> qmario if you mean my subscriber it's a finnish company called dna
[12:10] <sockpuppe1> I hear they suck
[12:10] <QMario> Miksu, no wonder.
[12:10] <QMario> Most likely ADSL.
[12:10] <QMario> Sockpuppe1, no. 4.7-5Mbps. :)
[12:10] <tony_the_cable_g> We just went to 8mb
[12:10] <mustard5> any luck, Dreamglider ?
[12:11] <sockpuppe1> whoa
[12:11] <QMario> How?
[12:11] <sockpuppe1> did you specifically request that speed?
[12:11] <tony_the_cable_g> Me?
[12:11] <QMario> Yes.
[12:11] <sockpuppe1> nah
[12:11] <sockpuppe1> qmario
[12:11] <sockpuppe1> lol
[12:11] <QMario> Sockpuppe1, yes.
[12:11] <jvai> yoyo uall.. wassup
[12:11] <sockpuppe1> i got you
[12:11] <tony_the_cable_g> Comcast Cable....hence the name...
[12:11] <QMario> Sockpuppe1, no.
[12:11] <QMario> $29.95 per month for 6 months.
[12:11] <Dreamglider> mustard5, i am asked to insert the ubuntu CD but my cd drive is dead
[12:12] <Kerr> what version of xorg comes with hoary?
[12:12] <mustard5> hmmm..thats a complication I wasnt expecting :D
[12:12] <tony_the_cable_g> 0$ for life....
[12:12] <Dreamglider> mustard5, cant i tell ubuntu to take whatever it needs from the net ?
[12:12] <miksu> dreamglidr check out your power cable and dma line .. the most common solution
[12:12] <Dreamglider> miksu, it s DEAD
[12:13] <Dreamglider> 104 %, no power nor ide twist will fix it trust me :)
[12:13] <mustard5> I wonder what happens if you comment out the CD in your sources.list
[12:13] <miksu> dreamglider yeah .. idiot me
[12:14] <Lyssie> I need to force the OS to redetect my network hardware... anybody know the command line command?
[12:14] <Dreamglider> where is the sources.list located
[12:14] <mustard5> in /etc/
[12:14] <ednz> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:14] <carthik> Dreamglider, /etc/apt/sources/list
[12:14] <carthik> doh
[12:14] <mustard5> I was close :D
[12:14] <DShepherd> Dreamglider: /etc/apt/source.list
[12:14] <Dalkus> can anyone tell me what I need to do/install to compile the program that gives me these erros when I try to 'make'? http://pastebin.com/391688
[12:14] <sockpuppe1> im updating now because the way things are lopoking the servers will be swamped with requests for breezy tomorrow
[12:15] <mustard5> Dalkus, looking at it now...
[12:15] <Dalkus> thanks
[12:15] <El_Che> sockpuppe1: use a mirror tomorrow
[12:15] <concept10> How do I disable the totem plugin in firefox?
[12:15] <tony_the_cable_g> Official release is tomorrow?
[12:15] <Christophe971> yo the develers
[12:15] <icewt> hm.. will breezy be released 00:00 UTC? just wondering if i should go to sleep or wait for it ;)
[12:15] <mustard5> I have no idea Dalkus
[12:16] <carthik> Lyssie, what do you mean by redetect? could you be more specific, i have played with network interfaces for sometime now
[12:16] <Dalkus> mustard5, thanks anyway
[12:16] <Christophe971> What about the "ubuntu-multimedia" and other metametapackages ?
[12:16] <carthik> concept10, easiest way would be to set the "Settings" - > downloads -> open file type with " to not open with the plugin you have complaints about
[12:17] <miksu> the power of linux .. my wlan connection is much more stable than in xp
[12:17] <ednz> wlan in xp sucks
[12:17] <Lyssie> Carthik: new Ubuntu install on a laptop - without an integrated NIC. So, I had to yank out the 10/100 Ethernet PCMCIA card and put in the Linksys wireless card... and I'm not sure how autodetect works. Basically, the system doesn't see the card.
[12:17] <BoDSWAT> icewt, you and me both
[12:17] <Lyssie> However, the card is supported.
[12:18] <blueyed> Do I have to enable AGP for nvidia explicitly (using the nvidia driver)? Because I have no /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status file here.
[12:18] <DShepherd> when will breezy be out
[12:18] <concept10> someone please help me disable this totem plugin in firefox...I want mplayer to handle all of these
[12:18] <NoUse> DShepherd tomorrow
[12:19] <BoDSWAT> icewt, why are you so fondly awaiting breezy?
[12:19] <NoUse> DShepherd 13th
[12:19] <TheVox> blueyed: IIRC, the default behaviour of the nvidia driver now is to use agpart instead of nvagp when it finds it
[12:19] <Kerr> does anyone know how to get xorg+via unichrome onboard graphics to work?
[12:19] <Christophe971> What about the "ubuntu-multimedia" and other metametapackages ?
[12:20] <nix4me> 1 hour 40 minutes till its released?
[12:20] <basvg> hmm, I just did a fresh install of breezy (from cd) ... and get the old `greeter` instead of the nice new one that I got when I updated from haory to breezy... does anyone know how to get the newer one?
[12:20] <Christophe971> SpecialUBuntuDevelsRequest
[12:20] <blueyed> TheVox: on http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Ubuntu it says that Driver: AGPART is used in " cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status"
[12:20] <icewt> BoDSWAT, because i have a pretty slow internet connection - it would be nice to get it during the night
[12:20] <nnonix> basvg: dist-upgrade didn't work for you?
[12:21] <basvg> nnonix: nah, some things broke
[12:21] <The_Vox> blueyed: mmm....I have said file and it's using agpart, so...I have no clue why you don't have it
[12:21] <basvg> nnonix: almost back in business though
[12:21] <basvg> do you know how to get that nice greeter?
[12:21] <icewt> BoDSWAT, and i'm anyway going to wipe my hard drives when breezy is out, and do a clean install
[12:21] <The_Vox> basvg: just update to the latest breezy updates
[12:22] <jvai> i ordered cd's from ubuntu like... 2 months ago... guess the yr gonna make me wait until aftr the 13.. lmao..
[12:22] <dobwan> are we there yet?
[12:22] <basvg> The_Vox: I did!
[12:22] <mustard5> hehe dobwan
[12:22] <rem_> I had hoary cd's about 2 months after release ..
[12:22] <nnonix> basvg: "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" should get you all the new packages. I'm not sure what you mean by the "nice greeter".
[12:22] <rem_> i guess i had them at least .. and had downloaded them anyway ..
[12:23] <QMario> How do I upgrade to GNOME 2.12?
[12:23] <basvg> nnonix: well, the one I have now is the same as in hoary... the one I got when I did the hoary/breezy update looks different and has more options
[12:23] <_native_> do a dist upgrade
[12:23] <_native_> man apt-get
[12:23] <rem_> whait 1-2 days and do a dist-upgrade ..ull have gnomde 2.12
[12:23] <benkong2> anyone completed an ubuntu install on a G4 mac os x 10.4?
[12:24] <miksu> moments of horror yeasterday .. my directional antenna got wacked up , but i just whacked that with my screwdriver and voila - back in business
[12:24] <basvg> nnonix: I installed from the breezy cd, copied the sources.list that I saved to /etc, did an apt-get update and dist-upgrade and waited for an hour...
[12:25] <sayan> breeeeeeeeezy
[12:25] <miksu> WOW ! OUT???!
[12:25] <sayan> no :(
[12:25] <_native_> feel that cool breez
[12:26] <basvg> another difference is that my laptop (the one I updated) gets a nice graphical boot.... the new breezy install doesn't
[12:26] <_native_> no need to wait just upgrade
[12:26] <miksu> i got a poster of some barbara kraft's painting..it says feel the breeze :)
[12:26] <DShepherd> when will breezy be out?
[12:27] <annex> DShepherd: official date was set for the 13th
[12:27] <_native_> you can dist-upgrade now if you like
[12:27] <blueyed> "when it's ready".. :P
[12:27] <DShepherd> so that about 12 tonight?
[12:27] <antix> it's past 12 :)
[12:27] <nnonix> basvg: open a term and run "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade", then reboot and see if that helps.
[12:27] <SOMNIVM`zzZz> It depends on where you live
[12:27] <SOMNIVM`zzZz> ;)
[12:27] <annex> DShepherd: well that depends on the time zone you live in and the time zone it's released using
[12:28] <SOMNIVM`zzZz> It's 0:27 here
[12:28] <gelberg> !libdvdcss
[12:28] <ubotu> No idea, gelberg
[12:28] <DShepherd> annex: yeah I know. I'm in Jamaica
[12:28] <gelberg> hi all, is libdvdcss in universe?
[12:28] <basvg> no upgrades... so guess booting won't help either
[12:28] <annex> groovy
[12:29] <nnonix> basvg: I would guess the same
[12:29] <antix> south african time is UTC/GMT +2 hours
[12:29] <popey> i am scared to reboot now
[12:29] <_native_> my ERP, MRP, CRM system is running well on top of ubuntu
[12:29] <mustard5> tell gelberg about restrictedformats
[12:29] <popey> _native_: which one?
[12:29] <mustard5> !tell gelberg about restrictedformats
[12:29] <popey> not SAP :D
[12:29] <spoilerhead> hello, it seems, that the upgrade to breezy killd my sound (snd_intel8x0) worked fine in hoary, no lifesign in breezy, any ideas?
[12:29] <basvg> nnonix: which `greeter app` (it is actually called that way in gdm.conf) do you have, the old one or the new one?
[12:30] <_native_> ofbiz.org
[12:30] <popey> not seen that, thanks _native_
[12:30] <mustard5> gelberg, no
[12:30] <mustard5> you have to download it from outside the official repos
[12:30] <_native_> Im a dev for it. its top class stuff many Big name companies are using it with great success.
[12:31] <popey> excellent, always good to hear
[12:31] <miksu> so the release is UTC 00:00 would that mean that helsinki (+2:00) get's it at 2 am
[12:31] <Slaj_R> Can someone refer me to a good tutorial on how to move quick-launch icons to the apps menu?  Or is it even possible?
[12:31] <nnonix> basvg: basvg, if you installed from a breezy cd, why did you do a dist-upgrade? Did you mean you installed from a hoary CD??
[12:31] <athlon> right now I am in suse 10. Does chrooting to ubuntu partition and do apt dist-upgrade from there anymore dangerous than booting to ubuntu and upgrading from there ?
[12:31] <gelberg> mustard5, thanks. is it generally advisable to have the marillat repository in sources.list, or should i grab the .debs?
[12:31] <mustard5> Slaj_R, you on hoary or breezy?
[12:32] <Slaj_R> breezy
[12:32] <guest123> gelberg, libdvdcss2 is in some repo...im looking right at it now
[12:32] <sorush20> how can I creat flash
[12:32] <basvg> nnonix: no, it's a mistake that I make more often *pout* ..
[12:32] <sorush20> how can I create flash..
[12:32] <mustard5> grab the .debs and then comment out the marillat entry from your sources list
[12:32] <basvg> nnonix: but that's can't make this big a difference I s'ppose
[12:33] <Slaj_R> mustard5: breezy
[12:33] <_native_> libdvdcss is available from http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/
[12:33] <mustard5> gelberg, follow the DVD instructions in the wiki and you should be ok
[12:33] <_native_> or universe
[12:33] <mustard5> their is a menu editor in breezy Slaj_R
[12:33] <_native_> repos
[12:34] <nnonix> basvg: so ... was it a breezy or hoary CD?
[12:34] <gelberg> mustard5, thanks.
[12:34] <mustard5> Applications menu editor in System Tools
[12:35] <thewayofzen> does anyone have the deb for azureus that used to be in the repos
[12:35] <Slaj_R> mustard5:  Whoops, I knew about that, but I didn't see the "new entry" button.
[12:35] <mustard5> thats ok Slaj_R :)
[12:35] <thewayofzen> (the sourceforge tar.gz is NOT working properly at all)
[12:36] <basvg> nnonix: it was a breezy cd
[12:36] <Slaj_R> I think PC World's review set me up for failure; they said there is no start menu editor.
[12:37] <icewt> thewayofzen, hm.. i'm using the "Linux GTK" version from Azureus website and it works just fine
[12:37] <mustard5> :)
[12:37] <_native_> !seen procrastination_nation
[12:37] <ubotu> _native_: i haven't seen 'procrastination_nation'
[12:38] <frank_b> can anyone tell me how to install aMule 2.0.3 in hoary?
[12:38] <Bergcube> clear
[12:38] <TiMiDo> frank_b: tar.gz deb?
[12:38] <bobbyd> hi
[12:38] <TiMiDo> !info amule
[12:38] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB
[12:38] <ubunoob> frank_b, is have you tried synaptic?
[12:38] <nnonix> basvg: are you using the sources.list that was created by the installation or one that you had saved?
[12:38] <TiMiDo> do sudo apt-get install amule
[12:39] <frank_b> ubunoob, it install version 2.0.0
[12:39] <TiMiDo> hi bobbyd
[12:39] <bobbyd> can anyone suggest a good (simple) guid to setting up spamassassin with postfix under ubuntu?
[12:39] <thewayofzen> icewt,  i installed it as per the ubuntu forums.. and it starts up fine.  i hve a fat32 media drive that i also checked the appropriate box in the config to support.  i use it on oink.me.uk and it keeps telling me to find another supported client.  i asked if azureus is no longer supported and they said its still allowed
[12:39] <TiMiDo> bobbyd: http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:39] <thewayofzen> icewt, i checked it on tvtorrents and a few other sites just to test and none will connect
[12:39] <js_> is it tomorrow that breezy will be released?
[12:39] <bobbyd> TiMiDo, thanks
[12:39] <TiMiDo> np
[12:39] <TiMiDo> js_: yes it is
[12:39] <thewayofzen> icewt, and yes port forwarding on my router is configged and tests ok as per azureus
[12:39] <thewayofzen> the old deb from the repos worked FLAWLESS
[12:40] <basvg> nnonix: the one that I saved (which is almost the same).. shall I paste it to you privately ?
[12:40] <TiMiDo> nice thewayofzen
[12:40] <nnonix> basvg: yes
[12:40] <hablandocontigo> Hello, I get "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume" when trying to access any floppy? What could be the problem?
[12:40] <frank_b> nevermind... I'm tired right now...
[12:40] <frank_b> thanks anyway
[12:40] <TiMiDo> hablandocontigo: did you do sudo adduser $USER floppy?
[12:40] <TiMiDo> try mounting the device also
[12:40] <popey> well, I have just upgraded to breezy and everything "Just Works (tm)" thanks everyone (for no help required) :D
[12:40] <yojimbo-san> TiMiDo: surely addgroup $USER floppy?
[12:41] <TiMiDo> well
[12:41] <TiMiDo> popey: go here http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:41] <icewt> thewayofzen, strange. i've just unpacked the *.tar.bz2-package and ran the "azureus" script in the folder. i haven't even done port forwarding, and i have a firewall. works anyway. can't really say what could cause your kind of behaviour..
[12:41] <TiMiDo> that's a real good breezy doc
[12:41] <popey> just one thing.. lots of unnamed folders on my desktop now where i keep right clicking and expecting to start a terminal :D :D
[12:41] <bobbyd> TiMiDo, that doesn't seem to mention spamassassin...
[12:41] <TiMiDo> popey: ok?
[12:41] <TiMiDo> google.com/linux spamassassin
[12:42] <hablandocontigo> TiMiDo: I am already a member of the group floppy
[12:42] <TiMiDo> hablandocontigo: did you mount the device?
[12:42] <TiMiDo> mount -t /dev/floppy
[12:42] <thewayofzen> icewt, thanks for trying mate.. ill keep scouring google for the .deb i guess
[12:42] <hablandocontigo> TiMiDo: still prompted same error
[12:43] <TiMiDo> bla
[12:43] <TiMiDo> hold up
[12:43] <bobbyd> TiMiDo, I'm perfectly capable of finding general guides to doing it, i wanted something that was ubuntu specific.
[12:43] <icewt> thewayofzen, i don't believe it would make a difference if azureus is running fine
[12:44] <frickel> hey how I eneable the user-list in x-chat? i can't find...
[12:44] <thewayofzen> icewt, are u running breezy?
[12:44] <icewt> thewayofzen, there shouldn't be anything different in the deb, except that it's installed in different place
[12:44] <icewt> thewayofzen, no
[12:44] <mustard5> frickel, its hidden
[12:44] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[12:44] <frickel> since when?
[12:44] <thewayofzen> icewt, might be whats up then.. cause i am
[12:44] <mustard5> frickel, move your mouse to the right hand side until you find the drag point
[12:44] <icewt> thewayofzen, but you have java installed?
[12:44] <thewayofzen> would be interesting to have the deb to verify
[12:44] <thewayofzen> icewt, yessir
[12:45] <thewayofzen> as per uboto's instructions
[12:45] <miksu> so i have just dis
[12:45] <mustard5> then drag the user window open
[12:45] <miksu> sorry
[12:45] <tuxedo_kamen> today I come here with a strange question...
[12:45] <icewt> !java
[12:45] <ubotu> it has been said that javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[12:45] <frickel> mustard5: it only enlarges the window
[12:45] <thewayofzen> icewt, azureus starts it just will not allow download.. i get errors or worse i get messages from the torrent site warning meto switch my client
[12:45] <thewayofzen> gnome torrent works fine.. azureus.. different story
[12:45] <icewt> thewayofzen, have you tried to change the port?
[12:45] <yojimbo-san> hi tuxedo_kamen. What's up?
[12:46] <frickel> mustard5: ahh, there it has hidden...thx
[12:46] <ubunoob> hey guys, simple question.. how do i switch between display managers if I have multiple installed.. i have gnome kde and xfce4 installed right now.
[12:46] <mustard5> np frickel :)
[12:46] <eyequeue> frickel:  there is a right-window-side drag point, but just left of that there is another drag point, drag that toward the center
[12:46] <mustard5> I was lost too thats how I know :D
[12:46] <tuxedo_kamen> I need a program that refreshes a certain webpage every X minutes, what do you recommend me?
[12:46] <thirso> ubunoob: "Sessions"
[12:46] <psusi> I'm messing around with a door game on a BBS that uses ANSI graphics and it doesn't seem to show up right... this is with telnet in a terminal window... any ideas why?
[12:46] <yojimbo-san> ubunoob: log in as a new session?
[12:46] <thewayofzen> icewt, have indeed.  ive used azureus for over a year on windows.. and for the last month on ubuntu.. its only recently since i reinstalled with breezy that i can no longer use it
[12:46] <icewt> thewayofzen, some torrent sites wont allow the default bittorrent port(s), because some ISPs cap their download/upload rates
[12:46] <icewt> thewayofzen, ah, ok
[12:46] <frickel> eyequeue: thx, I already found it...
[12:46] <thewayofzen> icewt, i guess im doomed to gnome bittorrent.
[12:47] <ubunoob> thx, will try that
[12:47] <eyequeue> frickel:  i type slowly
[12:47] <Slaj_R> Question: I just tried playing an mp3 w/ Totem, and it says no decoders were found.  How do I find/install the necessary plugins?
[12:47] <mustard5> !tell Slaj_R about restrictedformats
[12:47] <yojimbo-san> tuxedo_kamen: you can ask Firefox to do things from the command line ... see http://www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html
[12:47] <frickel> eyequeue: no problem
[12:48] <yojimbo-san> tuxedo_kamen: you could then get a cron task to ask the currently-running firefox to reload the page every few minutes ...
[12:48] <miksu> so 10 minutes then?
[12:48] <icewt> thewayofzen, i'm going to install breezy myself as soon as it comes out, pity i can't try azureus on it now
[12:49] <tuxedo_kamen> :|
[12:49] <thewayofzen> icewt, its all good. ill wait and see if its something i did or the RC
[12:49] <Nomad_> Hello guys
[12:49] <tuxedo_kamen> isn't that too hard for a newbie such as myself?
[12:50] <yojimbo-san> tuxedo_kamen: I don't know, but it's something that will work in "The Unix Way" :-)
[12:50] <tuxedo_kamen> ok, i'll be right back, switching OS...
[12:50] <thewayofzen> icewt, ive checked the forums and noone is griping so im guessing its something ive done
[12:50] <Slaj_R> well, that's new...
[12:50] <gmjonker> Hi all. Does anyone know why I get a "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format" when I'm doing apt-get update? This is the output it gives: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3027
[12:50] <Slaj_R> didn't know mp3's were restricted
[12:50] <icewt> thewayofzen, ok
[12:50] <eyequeue> is anyone else finding thunderbird uninstallable in breezy lately?
[12:51] <gmjonker> eyequeue: i installed it a week ago, was fine.
[12:51] <yojimbo-san> Slaj_R: mp3 is a patented technology, and you are supposed to purchase a license before writing a decoder for it ...
[12:51] <eyequeue> mozilla-thunderbird depends on libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel-4) (and others)
[12:51] <crimsun> eyequeue: um...
[12:51] <eyequeue> gmjonker:  what version libpng12-0 do you have?
[12:51] <crimsun> 1.2.8rel-1ubuntu3 is in Breezy
[12:52] <gmjonker> eyequeue: tell me how to find out
[12:52] <eyequeue> crimsun:  let me get the other two dependencies up too, just a sec
[12:52] <mustard5> Slaj_R, have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?
[12:52] <Slaj_R> So the Ubuntu project specifically chose to leave it out?  I'm confused; other distros keep it in.
[12:52] <Slaj_R> mustard5: Nope.
[12:52] <mustard5> that might fix it
[12:52] <crimsun> Slaj_R: huh? No, we punted certain mp3-supporting packages to universe or multiverse.
[12:53] <yojimbo-san> and neither universe nor multiverse are enabled by default ...
[12:53] <andreas_> hi guys
[12:53] <andreas_> you know any cool dropdown consoles for ubuntu?
[12:53] <andreas_> seems yeahconsole isn't in the repos
[12:53] <crimsun> Slaj_R: keep in mind xine-lib and xmms are still in main
[12:53] <eyequeue> crimsun:  libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel-4) and libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9) and libxrender1 (>> 0.9.0-1)
[12:54] <crimsun> (same for libmad0)
[12:54] <psusi> anyone know why ANSI graphics don't show up right in telnet?
[12:54] <mustard5> Slaj_R, xmms seems to play mp3 no problem...totem takes some fiddling
[12:54] <Slaj_R> that is greek to me
[12:54] <gmjonker> eyequeue: i got 1.2.8rel-1ubuntu3
[12:54] <Nomad_> Can someone help me with setting up users in a samba server?
[12:54] <crimsun> eyequeue: you've got Debian unstable somewhere in your sources
[12:54] <eyequeue> gmjonker:  dpkg -l libpng12-0 | tail -1
[12:54] <mustard5> Slaj_R,  :)  you get used to it
[12:55] <yojimbo-san> Slaj_R: look for the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki
[12:55] <eyequeue> crimsun:  thanks, i wasn't aware (nor can i imagine how) but i'll poke at sources.lisy
[12:55] <Slaj_R> I'm googling now though, so thanks thus far.
[12:55] <crimsun> Slaj_R: what I listed are packages that are used in decoding mp3s.
[12:55] <yojimbo-san> it will tell you how to get MP3 support and other interesting things that seem to be missing
[12:55] <occy> crimsun, is breezy out yet?
[12:55] <occy> hehe
[12:55] <occy> sorry, couldn't resist.  again.
[12:55] <crimsun> :)
[12:56] <gmjonker> Does anyone know how to solve the "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format"-error I get after running apt-get update?
[12:56] <Nomad_> So do we just wait for a tech to message us?
[12:57] <crimsun> gmjonker: are you dist-upgrading from Warty?
[12:57] <eyequeue> crimsun:  thanks!  this was there to pull in sunbird.deb #deb http://people.debian.org/~asac/experimental ./
[12:57] <Trashcan> ubotu: tell Nomad_ about samba
[12:58] <basvg> one more question before going to bed
[12:58] <basvg> when I click system => logout, nothing happens
[12:58] <basvg> how do I fix that?
[12:58] <eyequeue> ghjtypically i rerun apt-get update.  if that doesn't help, i change to another mirror for a day.  which mirror are you using?
[12:58] <flagfranca> hello all
[12:58] <gmjonker> crimsun: i'm updating from breezy to breezy i guess. i'm using the example sources.lst from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3027.
[12:58] <michael> basvg, I had the same problem today, I don't know how to solve it
[12:59] <eyequeue> gmjonker:  ^^
[12:59] <flagfranca> where I can find some XVid and DiVx codecs for Ubuntu and how I install them?
[12:59] <basvg> michael: ah, it just takes a *very* long time for the pop-up to show up :(
[12:59] <Grant_> is breezy gonna be released at 00:00 ?
[12:59] <crimsun> Grant_: no.
[12:59] <Grant_> crimsun: aww :( how come
[12:59] <crimsun> Grant_: "because."
[12:59] <eyequeue> gmjonker:  if there's a problem on one of the mirrors i think they want to know right about now :)
[12:59] <Grant_> crimsun: ummmm because ?
[01:00] <yojimbo-san> 00:01 perhaps?
[01:00] <Grant_> hah :D
[01:00] <crimsun> Grant_: seriously, though, it will be released on the 13th sometime. When precisely is dictated by how all the core developers feel.
[01:00] <miksu> 5:10 ? =)
[01:00] <Grant_> crimsun: ah ok cool :)
[01:01] <crimsun> gmjonker: try another mirror; I presume archive.u.c is extremely loaded due to rsyncs, etc.
[01:01] <eyequeue> maybe someone will update this page? :) http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/5
[01:01] <gmjonker> eyequeue, crimsun: i'm quite new to linux, so i dont know what's normal and what not. But i get lots of different errors on different mirrors. apt-get isn't running smoothly here at all...
[01:01] <crimsun> gmjonker: that sounds like an ISP issue, like a proxy...
[01:02] <crimsun> maybe a really shoddy dsl "router" or cable "modem"?
[01:02] <miksu> do you know of a good soft for listening to shoutcast radio
[01:02] <starscalling> yay ubuntu in for 3 days now and working great!
[01:02] <starscalling> shoutcast miksu ?
[01:02] <starscalling> i believe xmms can handle that quite nicely
[01:02] <gmjonker> crimsun: nope... all the rest of internet is doing great here :)
[01:03] <starscalling> let me see again...
[01:03] <crimsun> miksu: virtually anything that handles mp3s should.
[01:03] <miksu> crimson thank you.
[01:03] <crimsun> gmjonker: that doesn't mean you don't have a proxy issue. Then again, see what I said regarding trying another mirror.
[01:03] <TylerDurden> where can i find the nvidia drivers v. 6629?
[01:03] <Trashcan> so tyler, get rooted yet?
[01:03] <TylerDurden> i need nvidia-kernel-common and  nvidia-kernel-source
[01:03] <mustard5> TylerDurden, at the nvidia site?
[01:04] <TylerDurden> they dont have both i think
[01:04] <Nomad_> Thank you guys I'll try that and if no worky Ill come back
[01:04] <BlueMat> Anyone be able to help out with Internet connection sharing ubuntu?
[01:04] <starscalling> they recommend xmms but hey whatever floats your goat :)
[01:04] <ficusplanet> BlueMat, Install firestarter
[01:04] <ficusplanet> BlueMat, It will walk you through it.
[01:04] <starscalling> o.O
[01:05] <starscalling> ficusplanet:: i was looking at firestarter...
[01:05] <BlueMat> ficusplanet,  Why would I insta a firewall for ICS?
[01:05] <starscalling> i happened to have installed that last night.
[01:05] <gmjonker> crimsun: ok thanks anyways...
[01:05] <TylerDurden> so anyone know where i can find them?
[01:05] <starscalling> but i didnt see exactly how to port. would you know of a good link for a porting config file?
[01:05] <ficusplanet> BlueMat, Firestarter is a frontend for iptables (linux's firewall/ip routing stuff).  It is what would redirect your requests for ICS.
[01:06] <psusi> how do I install pcf fonts in ububtu?  /etc/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts does not exist
[01:06] <BlueMat> ficusplanet, and how does it walk me through it?
[01:06] <ficusplanet> BlueMat, When you start it the first time there is a wizard that will ask you a few questions and you should be good to go.
[01:07] <BlueMat> ficusplanet, I have it installed..
[01:07] <BlueMat> from before
[01:07] <ficusplanet> OK.  Then, try going to the preferences and adjust the connection sharing stuff to your liking.
[01:07] <eyequeue> BlueMat:  Firewall > Run Wizard
[01:08] <BlueMat> Do you HAVE  to put a internet connection shared box on a different subnet does anyone know?
[01:08] <concept10> cant play quicktime and im PISSED
[01:08] <eyequeue> BlueMat:  "internet connection shared" ?
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> concept10,  try 'vlc'
[01:08] <yojimbo-san> BlueMat: no, you don't *have* to, but it's much easier to do it that way
[01:09] <yojimbo-san> You can do pretty much anything with iptables, but the rules get very complex very quickly
[01:09] <concept10> Dr_Willis, doesnt work.
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> concept10,  bummer.  - worked very well for me on most ev3yrthing i toss at it
[01:09] <concept10> Dr_Willis, yeah, until the latest breezy update
[01:09] <BlueMat> yojimbo-san, what are the advantages of doing that?
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> concept10,  heh - aint noticed or tried yet
[01:10] <TylerDurden> does anyone know where i can get the 6629 nvidias?i need both source and common
[01:10] <Kira> lol @ /topic
[01:10] <yojimbo-san> BlueMat: the main advantage is "being the same as the people who write the documentation", and "being the same as Ubuntu" - which is very valuable when you'r learning :-)
[01:10] <BlueMat> eyequeue, yes Inet connection shared, no what connect the ethernet cables and Im good to go? set gateway on PCB to the IP of PCA?
[01:10] <Kira> 4 hours and 50 minutes to Breezy. :)
[01:10] <eyequeue> BlueMat:  do you have internal and external interfaces?
[01:11] <TylerDurden> ubuto tell tylerdurden about cache
[01:11] <eyequeue> Kira:  fridge says 48 minutes :)
[01:11] <TylerDurden> ubotu tell tylerdurden about cache
[01:11] <Trashcan> ubotu: tell tylerdurden about cache
[01:11] <Trashcan> ubotu: tell tylerdurden about msg the bot
[01:12] <Kira> ubotu: tell us about abuse
[01:12] <mustard5> :)
[01:12] <BlueMat> eyequeue & yojimbo-san , Ok, heres my setup, two PC's A & B - PcA (Main) has Wlan card, receiving from router, also has eth card, PcB has eth card also, I want to get connectivity to PcB
[01:12] <eyequeue> BlueMat:  Firewall > Run Wizard, that should get you what you want
[01:12] <Kris_k> Hey where can i get Drivers for a linksys Wireless card for a laptop ?
[01:13] <mustard5> I'm trying to install skype :)
[01:13] <Kira> What timezone is Ubuntu based in anyway?
[01:13] <yojimbo-san> BlueMat: PcB and PcA's eth should be on one subnet, and PcA's WLAN on another. I'd recommend "<IP_ADDRESS>/24" for PcB/PcA, because it's private and easy to type
[01:13] <kevogod> Ubuntu is timezone blind
[01:13] <eyequeue> Kira:  i'd say universal :)
[01:13] <Kira> ubotu: tell Kris_K about ndiswrapper
[01:13] <concept10> Dr_Willis, there is a new update in the repo..
[01:14] <concept10> hopefully it works
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> concept10,  thers new updates about every hr it seems. :P
[01:14] <dloal> hello
[01:14] <a_monkey> how do i switch to breezy? i edited the sources.list to replace all cases of "hoary" to "breezy"
[01:14] <dloal> how do you install PHP? apt-get install PHP doesn't seem to work
[01:14] <a_monkey> now how do i actually upgrade the whole system
[01:14] <BlueMat> yojimbo-san, networking isnt the best, can I have this as DHCP instead of static?
[01:14] <mustard5> a_monkey, sudo apt-get update
[01:14] <ds[de] > Kira: I'd say we wait 'til BB is released and just assume the timezone which has 12 pm / 0 am (whatever it is called) then
[01:14] <mustard5> a_monkey, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:14] <cafuego_> dloal: for apache, libapache-mod-php4. For apache2, libapache2-mod-php4. For command line, php4-cli
[01:14] <concept10> Dr_Fate, im trying to see the apple video and decide if im going to get a mac :)
[01:14] <Kira> ds[de] : sounds right.
[01:15] <eyequeue> a_monkey:  sudo apt-get update
[01:15] <yojimbo-san> BlueMat: The wlan will be DHCP, but I recommend PcB/PcA eth to be static ...  however, you could run a dhcpd on PcA if you liked, that would allow PcB to be DHCP config'd.
[01:15] <BlueMat> yojimbo-san, I want to be able to access both boxes from externally directly, can I keep em on same subnet?
[01:15] <dloal> cafuego_: so.. what would the command be?
[01:15] <theine> Hi, does apt make a backup up copy of all configuration files in a .deb package so that I can easily view the differences between those and my modified ones under /etc?
[01:15] <dloal> I'm running apache2
[01:15] <eyequeue> a_monkey:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[01:16] <sandyeggoboy> good afternoon all
[01:16] <Kira> I will sell my soul, dignity, and body to the guy who makes a user friendly wizard to set up PPP over Wifi in Ubuntu.
[01:16] <sandyeggoboy> i am having a problem mounting a drive, wonder if anyone can help me
[01:16] <BlueMat> yojimbo-san, can I msg you
[01:16] <mustard5> sure sandyeggoboy
[01:16] <yojimbo-san> BlueMat: Yes,
[01:16] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, tell us your problem
[01:16] <eyequeue> theine:  look for files named /etc/foo/*.dpkg-old and /etc/foo/*.pkg-new
[01:16] <sandyeggoboy> message is: mount: /dev/hdc2 already mounted or /mnt/Data busy
[01:17] <andre_m> is this where the party is? :)
[01:17] <Kira> s/guy/girl
[01:17] <sockpuppe1> ok folks ive just installed breezy
[01:17] <mustard5> what are you trying to do, sandyeggoboy ?
[01:17] <theine> eyequeue: alright, thanks
[01:17] <concept10> Anyone know what port RTSP (real) is?
[01:17] <sandyeggoboy> cannot seem to get this drive mounted at all. tried a different drive, its happening on all drives
[01:17] <sinistermilk> GOD HELP ME PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:17] <sandyeggoboy> i am trying to mount to drive so ican copy all the data from it onto a DVD
[01:18] <ficusplanet> sinistermilk, God is out at the moment
[01:18] <sinistermilk> SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE!!!!?
[01:18] <God[afk] > :P
[01:18] <dloal> lol
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> sinistermilk,  Yell some more. :P or ask a question and see which works better
[01:18] <sockpuppe1> but when I rebooted i see grub with hoary and breezy
[01:18] <sandyeggoboy> brb, gotta refillmy teacup
[01:18] <sinistermilk> I'm haveing severe installation problems
[01:18] <sockpuppe1> te kernel for oary and breezy I mean
[01:19] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, what is in /mnt/Data ?
[01:19] <sinistermilk> lol
[01:19] <miksu> sinistermilk now that was really a bad joke. really.
[01:19] <a_monkey> thanks guys
[01:19] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, try umount /mnt/Data
[01:19] <sockpuppe1> and when I select breezy, kubuntu's screen pops up while grub is loading
[01:19] <sinistermilk> when try to install the breezt base system it gives me an error concerning initrd
[01:19] <theine> sockpuppe1: ?
[01:20] <sinistermilk> right at the end of base installation
[01:20] <N6REJ> sinistermilk, when did you dl the iso?
[01:20] <sinistermilk> then i skip it and install packages
[01:20] <sinistermilk> and everything is dandy unstill i reboot
[01:20] <sockpuppe1> theine what didn't you understand (not trying to be a prick just trying to understand if im not being clear enough)
[01:20] <mustard5> come back ubotu!
[01:20] <sinistermilk> and it freezes at the "finish installation" configuring ubuntu stcreen
[01:20] <sandyeggoboy> says: umount: /mnt/Data is not mounted (according to mtab)
[01:21] <sinistermilk> and now grub isnt working right either
[01:21] <mustard5> hmm..interesting sandyeggoboy
[01:21] <N6REJ> sinistermilk: when did you get breezy?  When was it downloaded?
[01:21] <theine> sockpuppe1: what do you mean grub is loading while the ubuntu screen pops up?
[01:21] <sandyeggoboy> yeah
[01:21] <sinistermilk> it was downloaded yesterday
[01:21] <sinistermilk> the md5sum was correct
[01:21] <boogster> who's setting up torrents for ubuntu
[01:21] <sockpuppe1> no no thats not what I meant
[01:21] <N6REJ> sinistermilk: is it RC1?
[01:22] <caonex> I have some timing issues with my amd64, with the latest kernel, is there a command to pass to the kernel or something to fix this? it keeps it steady at 1ghz supposely.
[01:22] <theine> sockpuppe1: but that's what you said, no?
[01:22] <sinistermilk> i dont know what that means
[01:22] <Kira> :P
[01:22] <briks> ubuntu suxx!
[01:22] <skep> lol
[01:22] <andre_m> lol
[01:22] <boogster> where can i download the devils0wn release
[01:22] <theine> briks: why?
[01:22] <sockpuppe1> grub is loading and it says kubuntu and lists underneath it everything thats loading
[01:22] <M4ximus> Where can i get lame for ubuntu ? please
[01:22] <andre_m> theine: he's an evil, baby-eating gentoo-er
[01:22] <NoUse> theine don't feed the trolls :-)
[01:22] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, I'm not sure, but it doesnt sound like a hard problem for someone to solve
[01:22] <sockpuppe1> is that beause I installed kubuntu as well as gnome
[01:23] <sockpuppe1> NoUse who are you talking about
[01:23] <starscalling> 4:20!
[01:23] <sockpuppe1> ?
[01:23] <theine> sockpuppe1: I don't think it's grub that's loading in this case but the linux kernel
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> kubuntu install changes the logo screen yes.
[01:23] <Kira> M4ximus: it shouldn't be too hard to just download the source for lame and make. o.o
[01:23] <sockpuppe1> I stand corrected then
[01:23] <theine> sockpuppe1: anyway, what's the exact problem you're having?
[01:23] <mustard5> someone will come up with an answer if you keep asking :)
[01:23] <sinistermilk> any suggestions on atleast how to get atleast grub working to fix the computer
[01:23] <caonex> theine, because he's jealous
[01:23] <sinistermilk> i get error 15 when frub tries to load now
[01:23] <N6REJ> sinistermilk: if your not using RC1 then you need to redownload the ISO.  anything pre-colony4 had initrd problems.
[01:24] <sockpuppe1> is there supposed to be a listing fr hoary's kernel and breezy's kernel?
[01:24] <sinistermilk> thats the ing
[01:24] <sinistermilk> im on a live cd now
[01:24] <crimsun> sockpuppe1: a what?
[01:24] <M4ximus> Kira: was wondering if it was something already on apt-get
[01:24] <sinistermilk> the only way to get a os working on my comp
[01:24] <carthik> how do i check, using ssh if a remote directory exists?
[01:24] <N6REJ> sinistermilk: no, use the install CD if you want to install
[01:24] <mustard5> !tell sandyeggoboy about pastebin
[01:24] <sinistermilk> since grub is not working properly
[01:24] <crimsun> M4ximus: it's in breezy/multiverse
[01:24] <Kira> M4ximus: I doubt it. MP3 technology involves patent issues, I believe.
[01:24] <sinistermilk> i know to use the install cd to install
[01:24] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, post your /etc/fstab in the pastebin
[01:24] <Kira> oh, there you go. :P
[01:24] <sexcopter8000m> sorry if this has been asked many a time tonight, but when is the final version of breezy out for download?
[01:24] <sockpuppe1> when I start my computer I see ubuntu 5.04's kernel version and breezy's kernel version
[01:25] <sockpuppe1> as boot choices
[01:25] <N6REJ> sinistermilk: have you tried hitting escape at the grub loader?
[01:25] <crimsun> sexcopter8000m: see the topic.
[01:25] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, ubuto will tell you about the pastebin
[01:25] <sinistermilk> im saying it didnt install properly and now grub gives me an error 15 message
[01:25] <N6REJ> sinistermilk: there is an option for recovery mode there
[01:25] <M4ximus> crimsun - got the link please
[01:25] <sandyeggoboy> pastebin?
[01:25] <sandyeggoboy> huh?
[01:25] <sinistermilk> that doesnt work either
[01:25] <sinistermilk> it wont even load grub
[01:25] <sandyeggoboy> oh wait ..
[01:25] <sexcopter8000m> crimsun, no specific time set yet then? :s
[01:25] <crimsun> M4ximus: ...breezy...multiverse...
[01:25] <boogster> should i download RC1 or wait for the final release
[01:25] <N6REJ> sinistermilk: and you can't redownload from the website with the live cd?
[01:26] <jenocin> hola
[01:26] <sandyeggoboy> see. i can't get it online to the internet either, so i am onmy windoze machine right now
[01:26] <theine> sockpuppe1: i'm a bit confused i'm afraid... you see breezy and hoary in the grub menu, and that's a problem because?
[01:26] <crimsun> boogster: just wait; you're less than 24 hours away
[01:26] <jenocin> anyone know if you can use gfxmenu in grub with ubuntu?
[01:26] <speel> hey any one knows what time breezy will be released??
[01:26] <mustard5> k
[01:26] <Kira> ubotu: tell M4ximus about !repositories
[01:26] <sinistermilk> i cant burn it the disk drive is in use i only have one
[01:26] <sandyeggoboy> but iwill try to get it over there
[01:26] <crimsun> speel: read the topic.
[01:26] <mustard5> hmmm...what connection type?
[01:26] <speel> ah be patient
[01:26] <Rounin> If you have a slow connection, I guess you might as well wait N6REJ... But you can upgrade from one release to another
[01:26] <starscalling> im on a gbit to the house
[01:26] <mustard5> maybe you should troubleshoot internet first
[01:26] <starscalling> >_>
[01:26] <starscalling> i wish !_!
[01:26] <Kira> ubotu: tell M4ximus about repositories
[01:27] <sockpuppe1> any clues
[01:27] <N6REJ> Rounin: not me... its someone else
[01:27] <Kira> stupid bot... you told me to use the exclamation mark... -_-
[01:27] <eloone> in wht room am i??
[01:27] <N6REJ> sinistermilk: has a problem.. he's got a bum copy of breezy, and now the only OS he has is live, and doesn't think he can burn to cd with live installed.
[01:28] <eloone> anyone speak french pm me
[01:28] <Rounin> I see, N6REJ
[01:28] <N6REJ> sinistermilk: I think there is an option to install from live.  Have you tried that?
[01:28] <sockpuppe1> eloone #ubuntu-fr
[01:28] <N6REJ> eloone: !fr
[01:28] <N6REJ> ty sockpuppe1
[01:28] <sinistermilk> i've looked around and haven't found it do you know how one would do this?
[01:28] <theine> sockpuppe1: so can you actually boot into breezy?
[01:28] <N6REJ> sinistermilk: ask Rounin
[01:28] <miksu> so i just installed another media player .. where can i find the programs?
[01:28] <sockpuppe1> yessir
[01:29] <sockpuppe1> i did a dist-upgrade
[01:29] <theine> sockpuppe1: but you can't boot into your old hoary installation?
[01:29] <sockpuppe1> see thats the thing I upgraded
[01:29] <Kira> Why are there DVD images of BB?
[01:29] <sockpuppe1> so I didnt think It was ok to boot into either or
[01:29] <theine> sockpuppe1: so you're just wondering why the hoary boot entries still show up?
[01:29] <N6REJ> brb
[01:30] <sockpuppe1> yes theine totally
[01:30] <Kira> DVD = installation + live??
[01:30] <pupil> I am having probs setting up networking on my guest windows 98 with linux host
[01:30] <theine> sockpuppe1: probably because you still have the old kernel image from hoary installed
[01:30] <Rounin> N6REJ: Ugh... That happened to me too, with the breezy preview
[01:30] <Kira> oh, nvm, I just read the top of the image page. :P
[01:30] <sockpuppe1> will I run into problems?
[01:30] <theine> sockpuppe1: search for `linux-image' in synaptic
[01:30] <Rounin> N6REJ, What I had to do was install Hoary and upgrade to Breezy
[01:30] <miksu> cool ZINF works for shoutcast .. totem and rhytmbox did not
[01:31] <jenocin> anyone know if you can use gfxmenu in grub with ubuntu?
[01:31] <dloal> hello
[01:31] <boogster> 29 minutes
[01:31] <theine> sockpuppe1: if you remove the hoary image? no, it's safe to remove if the breezy image works
[01:31] <sayan> breeeeeeeeeeeeezyy
[01:31] <mustard5> hi dloal
[01:31] <dloal> I type "sudo apt-get install php"
[01:31] <dloal> but I get: E: Couldn't find package php
[01:31] <sockpuppe1> excellent
[01:31] <dloal> can someone please tell me how to install PHP?
[01:31] <Rounin> Anyone know how to recompile and submit packages though
[01:31] <dloal> through apt-get...
[01:32] <Rounin> 29 minutes left, and the package I need the most still doesn't work
[01:32] <Rounin> (or was that what you meant by 29 minutes?)
[01:32] <M4ximus> anybody got an internet radio station working with ubuntu ?
[01:32] <SuseUX> ok, it's the 13th, where is 5.10 final? :-D
[01:32] <Kira> sudo apt-get install xxx-dialer
[01:32] <boogster> they still have time to fix it
[01:32] <Kira> wait... wrong window. >_<
[01:32] <pupil> Rounin, I have breezy installed, I installed kernel headers,. is that enough to configure kernel modules for vmware when installing vmware,. I mean,. I didnt have any probs,. but I did have a prob when it came to networking.
[01:32] <bimberi> dloal: there are packages called php3 & php4 (in hoary)
[01:32] <jenocin> anyone use package grub2?
[01:32] <sockpuppe1> also one further question
[01:32] <theine> dloal: sudo apt-get install php4
[01:32] <mustard5> dloal, apt has a search function
[01:33] <theine> dloal: or php3 or php5...
[01:33] <N6REJ> Rounin: me 2 till I used colony 4, then it went well
[01:33] <mustard5> ah thanks theine
[01:33] <sockpuppe1> I installed stuff to compile on hoary
[01:33] <Rounin> pupil, I don't know actually, since I don't use vmware...
[01:33] <pupil> Rockett18, you using QEMU
[01:33] <sockpuppe1> do i need to install build-essential in breezy
[01:33] <Rounin> N6REJ: Colony 4? I haven't heard of that, to be honest ;)
[01:33] <dloal> but it says: E: Couldn't find package php5
[01:33] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, yes
[01:33] <N6REJ> Rounin: let me see if I can find it still
[01:33] <dloal> ok, question
[01:33] <bytter> damn... still having problem with solving DNS...
[01:33] <dloal> where can I get "libphp5.so"?
[01:33] <pupil> sockpuppe1,  you should install build-essential reguardless,. :p
[01:33] <theine> mustard5: i always use bash_completion if i know how the package name starts...
[01:33] <sockpuppe1> great!
[01:34] <mustard5> dloal, what about php4?
[01:34] <pupil> Rounin, are you using Qemu ?
[01:34] <mustard5> theine, ah....!  I'll try that
[01:34] <don-o> its 11:34pm in london. does that mean breezy comes out in 26 minutes?
[01:34] <dloal> I get the same thing
[01:34] <dloal> ednz: Couldn't find package php4
[01:34] <Rounin> Nope, pupil
[01:34] <dloal> ednz: Couldn't find package php4
[01:34] <dloal> , rather
[01:34] <mustard5> hmmmm...
[01:34] <theine> dloal: check out http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:34] <pupil> Rounin, olh shoot,. I thought I was on the vmware site,. lol
[01:35] <cafuego_> dloal: libapache2-mod-php5
[01:35] <sandyeggoboy> ok, mustard5, pastebin has been done
[01:35] <boogster> No it's 12:34 in london
[01:35] <sockpuppe1> build-essential is already the newest version.
[01:35] <boogster> london is GMT-1 at this point in the year
[01:35] <dloal> cafuego_: yeah, where can I find that?
[01:35] <SuseUX> boogster, I was going to say :-)
[01:35] <mustard5> paste the url to your pastebin in here sandyeggoboy
[01:35] <sockpuppe1> is that because I dist-upgraded
[01:35] <don-o> boogster: heh. thanks.
[01:35] <sockpuppe1> ?
[01:35] <boogster> GMT+1 uk is
[01:35] <cafuego_> dloal: You can search for files using http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:35] <bytter> London and portugal because of daylight saving
[01:35] <cafuego_> !info libapache2-mod-php5
[01:35] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1823 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB
[01:35] <dloal> ah, it's not there
[01:36] <cafuego_> dloal: It's in main
[01:36] <sandyeggoboy> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3028
[01:36] <Kira> /quit and /part jaywalk and /part gets hit by a car. Who is left?
[01:36] <Rounin> Oh I see, pupil :)
[01:36] <cafuego_> dloal: You on hoary? Use php4.
[01:36] <mustard5> sockpuppe1, yes..probably
[01:36] <mustard5> thanks sandyeggoboy
[01:36] <sockpuppe1> even better
[01:36] <dloal> what exactly is hoary?
[01:36] <SuseUX> Firefox 1.5beta2 is --FAST--
[01:36] <sandyeggoboy> kewl, i did it.....
[01:36] <Rounin> The previous Ubuntu release, dloal
[01:36] <crimsun> rm is pretty fast, too.
[01:36] <Trashcan> hoary hedgehog = ubuntu 5.04
[01:36] <sandyeggoboy> pastebin that is ....
[01:36] <bytter> SuseUX, with or without cairo?
[01:36] <dloal> I'm on version 5.10
[01:36] <cafuego_> Rounin: No, the CURRENT Ubuntu release.
[01:36] <eyequeue> /quit
[01:36] <LaserLine> It's 13/10 here...
[01:36] <Meister> hey how ur doing?
[01:37] <sockpuppe1> since the official release is coming out tomorrow, do I need to install anything tomorrow
[01:37] <sockpuppe1> ?
[01:37] <sinistermilk> so when will the official release be available
[01:37] <SuseUX> bytheway, dont know, no chance of cairo in there, it's slow
[01:37] <chjchjchj> Help pls. 1st time installing ubuntu; laptop w no cd no floppy no other pc. Has win98. Worked out how to make room and d/l ubuntu image, extracted kernel and initrd, got loadlin, booted to DOS and started the install that way. All goes ok...BUT a) no choi
[01:37] <mustard5> hehe sandyeggoboy
[01:37] <sinistermilk> for downlaod
[01:37] <bytter> SuseUX, u already tested with cairo?
[01:37] <SuseUX> for now anyway
[01:37] <cafuego_> sockpuppe1: Just run a dist-upgrade tomorrow, IF it's out by then.
[01:37] <sockpuppe1> oh...
[01:37] <crimsun> chjchjchj: <cut off>
[01:37] <theine> dloal: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[01:37] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, what drive are you trying to mount?
[01:38] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, what is its name?
[01:38] <dloal> ednz: Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-php5
[01:38] <SuseUX> bytheway, cario is slow at this time, needs alot more work
[01:38] <sockpuppe1> so there was no point in upgrading today?
[01:38] <psusi> anyone know why ansi graphics don't work right in telnet either from an xterm or the real text console?
[01:38] <Meister> can u propably help me out: I need a good repository for ubuntu, where I can download w32codecs or mplayer and all the servers i found on the internet are down...
[01:38] <ubuntu-friends> hi around the world!
[01:38] <eloone> hi
[01:38] <Meister> hey
[01:38] <sockpuppe1> hello
[01:38] <bytter> It's a pity glitz isn't yet up to the job
[01:38] <TylerDurden> how do i install .ebuilds?
[01:38] <chjchjchj> ...no choice to load from iso image so it downloaded all from web (no big prob) but b) after a few qs re timezone it started to install (I think) all packages - 850 - and eventually bombed with lack of disk...I gave it 1Gb...Q1 how to make loadlin read fr
[01:38] <N6REJ> don't know where its at now.  I did know
[01:39] <sandyeggoboy> trying to mount drive /dev/hdc
[01:39] <sandyeggoboy> has 4 partitions
[01:39] <bytter> and neither ATI drivers :P
[01:39] <SuseUX> bytheway, yer, you'd be better of using a -ck kernel for faster results
[01:39] <theine> dloal are you sure it's not there?
[01:39] <SuseUX> off*
[01:39] <dloal> i'm sure...
[01:39] <bytter> -ck?
[01:39] <bimberi> dloal: put your sources.list on a pastebin ...
[01:39] <bytter> SuseUX, -ck?
[01:39] <theine> dloal: it's in the main ubunut repository which is enabled by default...
[01:39] <bimberi> !pastebin
[01:39] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:39] <bytter> SuseUX, custom compiled, u mean?
[01:39] <SuseUX> bytheway, A kernel for me desktop
[01:39] <N6REJ> as of this second, this ..http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20051012.2/ is the most recent
[01:40] <SuseUX> more a desktop kernel
[01:40] <chjchjchj> ...Q1 read from iso, q2 how to limit the install to the packages I want, not everything
[01:40] <Meister> yeah but i cant find it, neither with apt nor with synaptics...
[01:40] <bytter> SuseUX, define desktop kernel
[01:40] <pupil> anyone have vmware 5.5 beta?
[01:40] <TylerDurden> how do i install .ebuilds?
[01:40] <SuseUX> yapyccky, much less latency
[01:40] <theine> bimberi: libapache2-mod-php5 is actually in main...
[01:40] <pupil> cause I'm haveing a heck of a time getting networking on 5.0
[01:40] <SuseUX> bytheway, much less latency
[01:41] <joelito> Wow 604, crowded night eh :)
[01:41] <bimberi> theine: i know :)
[01:41] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, which partition on hdc are you mounting? hdc6?
[01:41] <crimsun> TylerDurden: find the equivalent in the repos and install it instead.
[01:41] <sockpuppe1> ahhh
[01:41] <crimsun> TylerDurden: they're for Gentoo.
[01:41] <chjchjchj> ...err...anyone follow that? Sorry for length
[01:41] <sockpuppe1> take it easy everyone
[01:41] <sockpuppe1> 1
[01:41] <joelito> Where's Breezy?
[01:41] <bimberi> joelito: it was over 650 a couple of hours ago!
[01:41] <TylerDurden> i need to install this one file
[01:41] <theine> bimberi: so his sources.list should be fine, no?
[01:41] <Kira> I'm curious. Is anybody here running Ubuntu on a PPC?
[01:41] <bytter> SuseUX, and how can u get/configure that?
[01:41] <lsuactiafner> kernels that allow processed like multimedia to get higher cpu even if they dont rightfully have that priority sucks if you run several copies of mplayer @ the same time
[01:41] <_-[yeti-slayer] -> anybody familiar with debian?
[01:41] <crimsun> TylerDurden: "this file" being..?
[01:41] <sandyeggoboy> no, 1 at the moment, then 2 then 3 then 4
[01:41] <bimberi> theine: not if he can't see the package
[01:41] <joelito> Yeah, crowded night
[01:41] <TylerDurden> nitro-sources-<IP_ADDRESS>-r1.ebuild crimsun
[01:41] <Meister> ahh too fast... ;-)
[01:41] <sandyeggoboy> i guess they kinda go 1, then 2, then 4 then 5
[01:41] <SuseUX> bytheway, preemption model is not in 2.6.12, thous not in the ubuntu kernel
[01:41] <sandyeggoboy> or something like that
[01:42] <Kira> _-[yeti-slayer] -: #debian
[01:42] <bytter> lsuactiafner, i keep wondering why u need several copies of mplayer simultaneously :P
[01:42] <sandyeggoboy> ???????
[01:42] <theine> bimberi: well... people do make spell errors...
[01:42] <_-[yeti-slayer] -> ty
[01:42] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, all vfat?
[01:42] <chjchjchj> Meister hell yeah...need help...tough q to explain...think I am being missed out here...simple q really...
[01:42] <crimsun> TylerDurden: find the reference in the ebuild to the upstream tarball and build it
[01:42] <SuseUX> bytheway, -ck patched kernel is somewhat tuned for the desktop better
[01:42] <bimberi> theine: ?
[01:42] <TylerDurden> crimsun, what? im a noob to linux
[01:42] <bytter> SuseUX, and does it "really" make it better?
[01:42] <TylerDurden> can u explain a little please crimsun
[01:42] <crimsun> SuseUX: and -ck interacts very poorly with our patches
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> bytter : one copy for a movie i'm watching, one for -rootwin background, one for encoding media and checking some varibles with -nosound, one for a movie i paused before i started to watch another
[01:42] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, all ntfs sorry?
[01:43] <sandyeggoboy> no, strangely 1 is NTFS, 2 is labeled w95 (LBA), 3 is NTFS, 4 is fat32
[01:43] <SuseUX> bytheway, YES, more responsive
[01:43] <theine> bimberi: nevermind, checking his sources.list won't do any harm of course... :)
[01:43] <willert> TylerDurden: Have a look at apt-get.org, maybe you can find a .deb file to install there
[01:43] <dloal> bimberi: http://pastebin.com/391742
[01:43] <bytter> lsuactiafner, now that's multimedia intensive :P :P
[01:43] <TylerDurden> willert can i just convert that ebuild into a deb?
[01:43] <dloal> my sources.list ...
[01:43] <SuseUX> crimsun, thats your patches problem then :-)
[01:43] <lsuactiafner> SuseUX : and under heavy loads it doesnt manage @ all.. reminds me of windows then
[01:43] <sandyeggoboy> you want copy of fdisk?
[01:43] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, your mount commands to /mnt/Data are showing ext3 arent they?
[01:44] <theine> bimberi: i guess you were right...
[01:44] <SuseUX> lsuactiafner, actually preemption helps that out alot
[01:44] <willert> TylerDurden: no, I dont think so. You can convert rpm-packages with alien, but I fear you are out of luck with ebuilds
[01:44] <bimberi> dloal: _everything_ is commented out!
[01:44] <chjchjchj> ok, one more try...simple version...ubunto is installing EVERYTHING and I dont have enough room, how do I make it give me choice?
[01:44] <dloal> o
[01:44] <dloal> bimberi: it doesn't let me edit the file...
[01:44] <SuseUX> swap-prefect helps as well
[01:44] <bimberi> dloal: except the CD that is :)
[01:44] <lsuactiafner> SuseUX : nope, all copies playing @ the same time makes them all freeze
[01:44] <sandyeggoboy> yes but i have them commented out so they wont run
[01:44] <TylerDurden> gah i really need to install that ebuild
[01:44] <mustard5> yeah ok sandyeggoboy although I have never seen and fdisk output before :)
[01:44] <dloal> how do I make the file editable?
[01:45] <evian> if a deb is broken in a repository and someone fixes it, how does one go about getting the fixed version into the repository? (E.g. skype in breezy was messed up, but the comments by Dan Schmidt on http://www.mneylon.com/blog/archives/2005/09/25/skype-on-breezy/ show how to fix it.)
[01:45] <lsuactiafner> SuseUX : if it obeyed the cpu nice -n 6 copies in the background would freeze instead but not the one i'm watching
[01:45] <theine> dloal: try `sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:45] <bimberi> dloal: prepend the command with sudo (eg. sudo nano ...)
[01:45] <miksu> will the update notfier notify of breezy final?
[01:45] <SuseUX> lsuactiafner, how to you know it's preemption?
[01:45] <crimsun> miksu: it has no concept of "final", nor should it.
[01:46] <willert> TylerDurden: As far as I know .ebuilds only contain infos about how to build a source distribution and no binaries at all so downloading the .tar.gz file and running './configure && make && make install' shouldn't be much more complicated
[01:46] <sandyeggoboy> well does the ## make that lione not run by fstab?
[01:46] <theine> dloal: have you tried using synaptic by the way?
[01:46] <lsuactiafner> SuseUX : since 2.6.12 didnt have preempt and it didnt screw up
[01:46] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, actually I would like to see the output of 'mount'
[01:46] <chjchjchj> Please can someone help me out here...I am taking notes for the next mug^h^h^hwindows dual-booter
[01:46] <dloal> theine: I have no idea how to use it
[01:46] <lsuactiafner> same config, make my own kernels.
[01:46] <SuseUX> lsuactiafner, 2.6.12 did have preemption
[01:46] <bimberi> dloal: uncomment lines 5, 10, 20, 23 & 26 (on your pastebin)
[01:46] <SuseUX> just now it's split up
[01:46] <SuseUX> in 2.6.13
[01:46] <crimsun> evian: skype is not in breezy.
[01:46] <caonex> I have some timing issues with my amd 64 bit cpu. It seems as if though is using half capacity, that is 1ghz. Any ideas on how to solve this problem?
[01:47] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, yeah..its commented out
[01:47] <willert> TylerDurden: I've never used an ebiuld distro though, so take this info with a grain of salt
[01:47] <crimsun> chjchjchj: what's the issue?
[01:47] <Kira> caonex: is it dual core?
[01:47] <caonex> Kira, no it is not.
[01:47] <TylerDurden> willert, this is whats in the ebuild http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3029
[01:47] <lsuactiafner> SuseUX : (X) Voluntary Kernel Preemption (Desktop) <-- not nice
[01:47] <mustard5> can you paste output from mount in same paste window sandyeggoboy ?
[01:47] <chjchjchj> crimsun see above...installing on nocd nofloppy using loadlin...no choice, starts to install all 850 files then out of room
[01:47] <evian> crimsun, oh I guess it is in universe (by the way skype works for me now because I have got a new machine -- although it still doesn't work on my previous laptop but thats ok)
[01:48] <caonex> Kira, i saw something on google about that but does not apply to me because is single core
[01:48] <chjchjchj> crimsun how to make the installer give me a choice of packages
[01:48] <crimsun> evian: it is NOT in universe.
[01:48] <lsuactiafner> or what do you suggest for someone that plays mplayer with nice -3 and 6 and i want the kernel to obey it, sever hey?
[01:48] <caonex> Kira, any ideas?
[01:48] <Kira> caonex: no clue. :(
[01:48] <SuseUX> lsuactiafner, care to explain why?
[01:48] <lsuactiafner> caonex : its cpu throttle
[01:48] <caonex> Kira, what a lock
[01:48] <crimsun> chjchjchj: choose the server install option
[01:48] <sandyeggoboy> is that the output from mount -a
[01:48] <chjchjchj> crimsun ...and pref how to install from an iso rather than dl everything at install time.
[01:48] <caonex> lsuactiafner, what do you mean?
[01:48] <evian> crimsun, oh ok... I'll have to check where it came from then
[01:48] <chjchjchj> crimsun where? mo choices given
[01:48] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, no
[01:48] <bytter> lsuactiafner, kernel to get hold of BeOS tricks for multimedia :P
[01:48] <lsuactiafner> caonex : if you start using more than 50% of the cpu it will scale up, use more power, run hotter but run @ 2G like it should
[01:48] <chjchjchj> s/mo/no/
[01:48] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, just mount
[01:49] <willert> TylerDurden: Wow, installing a kernel on your own is not so easy, one moment ...
[01:49] <TylerDurden> willert, i already did
[01:49] <crimsun> chjchjchj: you should have an installer prompt
[01:49] <sandyeggoboy> ok
[01:49] <sandyeggoboy> coming up .. please hold
[01:49] <mustard5> will do
[01:49] <TylerDurden> willert, but i compiled a regular one using a guide, i didnt use this file or anythimg. im very confused on what to do with this file
[01:49] <caonex> lsuactiafner, so you saying it is not really using it, it can use up to 1ghz and it will stay the same?
[01:49] <chjchjchj> crimsun I have no cd no floppy so got loadlin, extracted the kernel and initrd, ran it w loadlin...install asked me where I was and keyboard etc but no choice of packages
[01:50] <mustard5> hehe bimberi
[01:50] <SuseUX> I always find distros seem to not like people using a kernel from kernel.org, they think there is best
[01:50] <caonex> lsuactiafner, is like heating a motor....you have to heat it before using it, in cold weather of course. In this case, the processor is ready for heavy operations?
[01:50] <lsuactiafner> caonex :  am saying its like a transmission, right now to run it only needs the fist gear, but when you need to go faster it goes to the second gear
[01:50] <willert> TylerDurden: http://users.pandora.be/seppe/nitro/<IP_ADDRESS>-nitro1/series contains an installation instruction
[01:50] <crimsun> chjchjchj: you should be able to back out to the full menu
[01:50] <bytter> Gamer2, Fridge has freezed for me a long time ago :P
[01:50] <crimsun> brb
[01:50] <TylerDurden> ha willert i just got there myself
[01:50] <Kira> ubotu: tell caonex about emifreq
[01:50] <lsuactiafner> right now nothing is using the cpu, so its not running @ full capacity, since there is no need for it
[01:50] <TylerDurden> willert, it says download somefile.bz2 but idk where to find it :S
[01:51] <Kira> What do you mean "I don't know"?
[01:51] <willert> TylerDurden: just leave out the 'series', its in the same dir
[01:51] <caonex> lsuactiafner, so to run ubuntu it needs 1ghz?
[01:51] <chjchjchj> crimsun from which part? I followed the onscreen stuff, name, local, kb etc...then it started installing 850 packs
[01:51] <Aven> hey
[01:51] <Aven> what's the command to locate a file ?
[01:51] <caonex> lsuactiafner, even in standby mode?
[01:51] <lsuactiafner> but when you run a shitload of appz @ the same time, or something very cpu intensive, it will scale up and run as fast as possible
[01:51] <chjchjchj> crimsun btw the brub all worked fine
[01:51] <Kira> caonex: no
[01:51] <TylerDurden> willert, i see a patch-filename.bz2 but thats a patch
[01:51] <lsuactiafner> caonex : espcially in standby mode, saves electricity
[01:51] <thechitowncubs> what timezone is ubuntu going to be realeased on
[01:52] <chjchjchj> crimsun following reboot it installed the "base" stuff then went straight on to the pkgs with no prompting
[01:52] <bytter> GMT+1
[01:52] <caonex> lsuactiafner, Kira , sorry i am just clarifying to understand guys...
[01:52] <bimberi> Aven: it's "locate <file>" :)
[01:52] <bytter> uh
[01:52] <ubuntu-friends> @aven: locate <filename>, find, and so on
[01:52] <Kira> caonex: I think it's just that your chipset's built-in power management kicked in.
[01:52] <bytter> actually GMT without daylight saving
[01:52] <lsuactiafner> caonex : but since i use my cpu @ full capacity i never drop to low gears, i keep @ 2G all the way
[01:52] <caonex> Kira, it has always being like that...
[01:52] <bimberi> Aven: as long as the locate database is up to date (sudo updatedb)
[01:52] <caonex> lsuactiafner, well damn...hehe
[01:52] <SuseUX> lsuactiafner, -ck patch demonstrates this with xcomposite, there is no left over shadow trails when you minimize a window
[01:52] <Kira> caonex: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22285.html
[01:52] <camilo> hey what would i do with a .package file to install the package?
[01:53] <miksu> so what is the folder for games and programs? (real newbie in linux)
[01:53] <lsuactiafner> caonex : type uptime in a terminal, if loads approach load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 it will scale up
[01:53] <lsuactiafner> caonex : my load is load average: 1.67, 1.64, 1.62
[01:53] <bytter> Ok.. So... What's the url for Dapper packages *grin*
[01:53] <lsuactiafner> but most of the time is high 2 - 3
[01:53] <bimberi> camilo: afaik, ubuntu doesn't work with .package files, what are you installing?
[01:54] <chjchjchj> Anyone_
[01:54] <bimberi> bytter: aw, i was going to say that :)
[01:54] <gmjonker> crimsun: to get back on that problem i had... i think you were right, it is a proxy problem. i found some guy on the internet who had the same problem, and it was caused by a content filter at his isp... mine is using one too... that must be it. Also, switching to ftp now seems to solve it...
[01:54] <camilo> armagetron :)
[01:54] <NoUse> miksu its really not stored in one place for everything, generally its /usr/bin for the executables but it can change
[01:54] <camilo> the new beta is in rpm or package form for linux
[01:54] <bytter> bimberi, I'm just waiting for the dapper forum to be opened :P
[01:54] <NoUse> miksu are you looking for anything specifc?
[01:54] <bytter> bimberi, that's the whole point in breezy release :P
[01:54] <chjchjchj> ...during install after reboot it tries to install all 850 pkgs and bombs...how do I make it give me a choice?
[01:54] <willert> TylerDurden: Sorry, I am not registered... ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2 contains the sources you need to patch like described in the 'series' file
[01:54] <miksu> nouse i installed crossfire in synaptic..it is a game
[01:55] <willert> too late ;(
[01:55] <caonex> lsuactiafner, load average: 0.95, 0.46, 0.47
[01:55] <Razor-X> miksu: try opening up a terminal and just typing in ``crossfire''
[01:55] <caonex> Kira, i have something like that program that comes with ubuntu
[01:55] <miksu> nouse thanks found it
[01:55] <bytter> 5 minutes
[01:55] <caonex> Kira, i mean gnome, it is on the bar
[01:55] <NoUse> miksu sure
[01:55] <bimberi> camilo: you can install rpms using "alien"
[01:56] <camilo> all right
[01:56] <brodmann> what does the xvf mean in this command? gunzip -c files.tar.gz | tar xvf
[01:56] <camilo> that's in the repositories?
[01:56] <tiax> extract, verbose, file
[01:56] <Razor-X> brodmann: you know, you don't need to do that anymore
[01:56] <crimsun> brodmann: the same as tar xfz files.tar.gz
[01:56] <Razor-X> brodmann: if you use tar -xvzf files.tar.gz, you can get the same effect
[01:56] <bimberi> camilo: yes indeed :)
[01:56] <brodmann> really
[01:56] <brodmann> ah yes
[01:56] <brodmann> very nice
[01:56] <camilo> neat, thanks
[01:56] <caonex> lsuactiafner, did i understand it right? in standby the fact that my processor is running a 1ghz even when not required will save power?
[01:56] <lsuactiafner> brodmann : tar -zxf files.tar.gz ; gz file, extract, follow
[01:56] <bimberi> camilo: yw :)
[01:56] <ompaul> or if you add repos you may get the native format and it would be better to use source than rpms
[01:56] <camilo> peace
[01:56] <brodmann> what's the xfz?  permissions?
[01:56] <joe__> hi guys, can someone give me the new backports addy since mirror max is down?
[01:56] <SuseUX> I wonder if gnome devs will see the light and give us a FAST gnome 2.14?
[01:56] <lsuactiafner> caonex : much more power
[01:57] <Razor-X> brodmann: extract, file, verbose, if i'm not mistaken
[01:57] <Razor-X> brodmann: take a look at the manpage for better details
[01:57] <caonex> lsuactiafner, wow i cant see how...
[01:57] <mustard5> !tell joe__ about backports
[01:57] <brodmann> ah
[01:57] <brodmann> thanks
[01:57] <chjchjchj> ...please I need help here with an install Q...am trying to make notes for win installers...using loadlin...after initial install went ok it reboots and tries to install all packages and runs out of space. No choice/no prompt to choose which packages
[01:57] <lsuactiafner> caonex : if it speed goes up by 100% you use more than 100% more power, i think around 180%
[01:57] <caonex> lsuactiafner, ok so you saying it is like a car, it is in D but you do not necessarily use each gear 100%
[01:58] <miksu> heh that game was not very beautiful :(
[01:58] <caonex> lsuactiafner, 100% being 2ghz in this case?
[01:58] <lsuactiafner> sorta
[01:58] <osfameron> !eclipse
[01:58] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[01:58] <Razor-X> miksu: nethack is beautiful :P
[01:58] <ompaul> brodmann,  x extract f use stdout v verbose z compressed in gzip format
[01:58] <sandyeggoboy> mustartd5 - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3030
[01:58] <brodmann> ok gotcha
[01:58] <caonex> lsuactiafner, ok so let me get it all straight, it saves power, but that indicator does not mean that is running at exactly 1ghz
[01:58] <Razor-X> ompaul: f overrides default behavior for stdin, has nothing to do with stdout
[01:58] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, k
[01:58] <lsuactiafner> caonex : double the speed its now requires 180% more power for 100%/double more performance
[01:59] <Kira> lsuactiafner: to overcome the increased impedance in the circuits due to heating, right?
[01:59] <brodmann> trying to install jbuilder...that's my main goal
[01:59] <lsuactiafner> caonex : i dont understand why you dont understand.. its like a transmission, simple enough
[01:59] <chjchjchj> ...windoze user trying to get into this thing...want to make notes for others, but cant install...gonna give up if nobody has any ideas here
[01:59] <miksu> razor-x played nethack and adom but sort of bored with roguelikes
[01:59] <Razor-X> miksu: meh
[01:59] <lsuactiafner> Kira : resistance and heat.
[01:59] <joelito> Can't wait, need breezy
[01:59] <miksu> razor-x actually i played adom every day for 8 years =)
[01:59] <evian> If I want to use lirc, why do I have to compile a kernel module? Couldn't there be a deb which just installs a precompiled one?
[01:59] <XTR-II> When is breezy out?
[01:59] <Razor-X> miksu: Tuxracer is also excellent, as is Frozen Bubble
[02:00] <Kira> XTR-II in 6 months
[02:00] <joelito> Hopefully tonite
[02:00] <XTR-II> Kew.
[02:00] <cafuego_> XTR-II: When it's ready.
[02:00] <Gamer2> woohoo, 0:00 GMT
[02:00] <bytter> ....
[02:00] <andre_m> party!
[02:00] <Razor-X> but, I don't play many games on the computer, I'm besotted with Knife of Dreams, and secondly, Final Fantasy VII on a newly bought used PSX
[02:00] <LaserLine> What package let's you configure QT apps in Gnome without installing KDE ?
[02:00] <ubuntu-friends> gogogo
[02:00] <joelito> Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:00] <lsuactiafner> an engire runs as fast as it needs to run, it doesnt give all its got to go @ 3k/m hour only...
[02:00] <bytter> waaaittiiiingggg :P
[02:00] <Kira> quick! everybody refresh the image page!
[02:00] <miksu> BRING OUT YOUR BEER =)
[02:00] <cafuego_> afaik they're still testing atm. They'll release when they're happy that it works.
[02:00] <evian> LaserLIne, qtconfig ?
[02:00] <Rounin> Hm, by the way - Is there an Ubuntu channel for Japanese/Korean/Chinese users? I'd like to ask them about input methods
[02:00] <LaserLine> evian Thanks, I forgot it's name... :-)
[02:01] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, I'd like to just walk-through mounting the drive on a different directory
[02:01] <Razor-X> Rounin: there must be, and I know there is a CJK input method, can't remember offhand what it is, though
[02:01] <mustard5> see what happens
[02:01] <Gamer2> forums are alive
[02:01] <Gamer2> and very responsive
[02:01] <Rounin> Oh, I know of some... The one I'm using now is OK actually
[02:01] <bytter> not here!
[02:02] <Kira> me gotta go
[02:02] <troth> im on a Kubuntu live cd right now and it wont mount my drives (hda1, hdb1, etc.) anyone know why?
[02:02] <joelito> yes, they have good servers
[02:02] <Rounin> But there are some better ones... One doesn't work in Breezy, and the other isn't included
[02:02] <Gamer2> fridge got stuck in the freezer though
[02:02] <LaserLine> If I install Ubuntu Desktop and after that the Kubuntu Desktop package, and put all the KDE apps in a submenu in the Application menu - will it affect KDE menu ?
[02:02] <andre_m> you call this a party? you guys and gals are lame
[02:02] <brodmann> Razor-X, when I run apt-get update...I need to run the package manager update before I can install codecs?
[02:02] <bytter> hmmm
[02:02] <brodmann> i keep getting errors while trying to apt-get
[02:02] <bytter> strange
[02:02] <Razor-X> brodmann: you only need to run ``apt-get update'' if you updated your sources.list
[02:02] <RobNyc> HEllo, what light wm can I Install
[02:02] <bytter> epiphany opens the forums... but firefox doesn't...
[02:02] <Khaaaaaan> How many updates are left before Breezy is released?
[02:02] <brodmann> hmm
[02:02] <Razor-X> Razor-X: put the errors in pastebin, if you would
[02:03] <pupil> what folder contains the files with .desktop extension?
[02:03] <Gamer2> There we go, forums are definately feelign it now
[02:03] <bytter> ok.. firefox didn't liked Fridge not answering..
[02:03] <troth> im on a Kubuntu live cd right now and it wont mount my drives (hda1, hdb1, etc.) anyone know why?
[02:03] <chjchjchj> ok I give in...back to windows for me...bye
[02:03] <mustard5> sandyeggoboy, ?
[02:03] <axeus> I'm thinking about enabling xcompmgr/transset, but I hear xcomposite is still quite buggy? Anyone have trouble with it?
[02:04] <bytter> chjchjchj, u quit easily :P
[02:04] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: well, why are you using loadlin in the first place?
[02:04] <ikmo> axeus, it crashes my breezy
[02:04] <Khaaaaaan> I wonder if I can play enemy territory on my IBM laptop...
[02:04] <chjchjchj> razor-x; no cd no floppy no other pc
[02:04] <LaserLine> What does AutoFS package do ?
[02:04] <Zotnix> I was wondering.. is there a policy of updating non-critical apps between releases?
[02:04] <Orborde> I used Synaptic to get Pingus - now how do I play it...?
[02:04] <dreifinger> hey peeps...
[02:04] <miksu> great sound quality in xinf..much better than winamp
[02:04] <axeus> I bet they'll have it fixed up nicely by 6.06, you think?
[02:04] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: hmmmmm...
[02:04] <evian> pupil: find /usr -name \*.desktop
[02:05] <foxgamer> Hi all. I've got a program that won't run because it needs libtcl8.4.so.0. IT says the file is not there, but it is. I have used ldconfig -p | grep libtcl and it is recognised.
[02:05] <Hans`> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ ALIVE!!
[02:05] <Hans`> :)))))))))))))))))))
[02:05] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: shoulda said that :P hold your horses, i'll try and see if I can help you
[02:05] <Gamer2> cool
[02:05] <Gamer2> forums are getting worse
[02:05] <brodmann> oooo, did you get that razor?
[02:05] <bytter> lol
[02:05] <bytter> the countdown says NOW
[02:05] <selinium> Orborde, have you tried typing pingus in a term?
[02:05] <Hans`> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ YEAH!
[02:05] <Hans`> :)
[02:05] <chjchjchj> razor-x did say that ;-) and am trying to take notes for others
[02:05] <troth> anyone?
[02:05] <joelito> we brought fridge down
[02:06] <LaserLine> What does AutoFS do ?
[02:06] <Orborde> selinium: Oh...crap. D'oh.
[02:06] <K^Holtz> fridge is back up and it says (NOW) for release
[02:06] <Hans`> yessssssss
[02:06] <Orborde> selinium: I tried it with a few options to order it into Windows mode, and never tried it without options. :)
[02:06] <brodmann> Razor-X, did you get those errors?
[02:07] <carthik_> any bash gurus willing to help out a newbie one-on-one for 5 minutes?
[02:07] <zoot_> evening... MAJOR problem on re-install of breezy :( had software raid on 2 disks, wanted to do fresh install on one of the disks (migrate using mdadm later) and now on boot: "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" - it appears to have apptempted to load the non-existent md devices...
[02:07] <selinium> Orborde, lol
[02:07] <cafuego_> K^Holtz: You'll also note is counts in _days_.
[02:07] <SuseUX> LaserLine, auto mounts filesystems, like remotes ones
[02:07] <miksu> THIS IS SO COOL!  NEVER AGAIN WINDOWS! THANK YOU UBUNTU - THANK YOU COMMUNITY =)
[02:07] <K^Holtz> cafuego_ it was in hours a little bit ago
[02:07] <bytter> ????
[02:07] <Razor-X> brodmann: can you repost the URL?
[02:07] <chjchjchj> loud...but well meaning ;-)
[02:07] <NoUse> miksu your gratitude is appreciated but try not to yell
[02:08] <bytter> :D
[02:08] <miksu> nouse sorry got a bit excited..seldom case
[02:08] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: how'd you get Windows there in the first place?
[02:08] <NoUse> miksu I understand :-)
[02:08] <axeus> *cough*
[02:08] <mustard5> :)
[02:08] <bytter> Forums have 200 ppl seeing a single thread, lol
[02:08] <Hans`> Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 212 (99 members and 113 guests)
[02:08] <Hans`> omg
[02:08] <ubuntu-friends> great!
[02:08] <icewt> hm.. so are there final breezy images somewhere?
[02:08] <bytter> 208, actually
[02:08] <chjchjchj> raxor-x bought an old laptop, it only had win2k...repartitioned, installed DOS then 98. Now trying to put linux on it.
[02:09] <foxgamer> Anyone able to help with getting libtcl8.4.so.0 seen by a program?
[02:09] <rowan> hello all
[02:09] <ubuntu-friends> hi
[02:09] <bytter> I can't keep up with the messages, lololol
[02:09] <TiMiDo> hello rowan
[02:09] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: ahhh
[02:09] <SuseUX> there are a handful of Linux users according to microsoft and there trolls :-)
[02:09] <HrdwrBob> their
[02:09] <LaserLine> SuseUX Is it worth installing ?
[02:09] <chjchjchj> razor-x hence fast net, but nothing else. 128mb ram, only 4.5gb HDD. I have 1gb to give to linux
[02:10] <zoot_> how on earth does a re-install find raid devices on disks whos mbr's i wiped out, created new partition tables on and formatted?
[02:10] <rowan> greetings.  I'm a brand new linux user (as of yesterday) but am baffled as to how to install applications.  Is there a resource out there that helps with this?
[02:10] <SuseUX> LaserLine, what?
[02:10] <ThomasM> HrdwrBob: Always nice to meet another grammar Nazi.
[02:10] <bytter> zoot_, happened to me...
[02:10] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: have you tried to boot a Linux floppy kernel image using loadlin?
[02:10] <HrdwrBob> ThomasM: :D
[02:10] <ubuntu_> eae
[02:10] <LaserLine> SuseUX AutoFS
[02:10] <cevizoglu> bad zoot, naughty zoot
[02:10] <omp> hmm
[02:10] <cevizoglu> sorry, I had to  :P
[02:10] <miksu> so you guys gould we gather for a game..any suggestions ? =)
[02:10] <foxgamer> rowan: You can use the synaptic package manager to help you install.
[02:10] <ThomasM> HrdwrBob: There needs to be more of us in these dark times.
[02:10] <ubuntu_> Brazil
[02:10] <tristanmike> rowan, check out synaptic
[02:10] <zoot_> bytter: so you also got: Target system doesn't have /sbin/init ?
[02:10] <bytter> miksu, I sugest neverwinter nights :P
[02:10] <HrdwrBob> ThomasM: indeed
[02:11] <cevizoglu> zoot_, because it didn't actually wipe the mbr's?
[02:11] <ubuntu_> hi
[02:11] <SuseUX> HrdwrBob, never use their, the latters are to far away from each other :-)
[02:11] <tristanmike> !tell rowan about synaptic
[02:11] <rowan> thanks for the tips
[02:11] <chjchjchj> razor-x no...can you do that? I could try it...is there a floppy image in the iso?
[02:11] <zoot_> bytter: how did you eventually wipe them
[02:11] <bytter> zoot_, do u have a motherboard with RAID support? like VIA?
[02:11] <omp> on fridge.ubuntu.com it says "Ubuntu 5.10 Final Release (NOW)" under upcoming events, but i don't see it on the ubuntu website yet
[02:11] <LaserLine> At what timezone is Breezy beeubg released ?
[02:11] <miksu> bytter lol no more commercial soft for me .. and i think that is
[02:11] <ubuntu_> TEm algum brazuca ae?
[02:11] <zoot_> bytter: no
[02:11] <zoot_> bytter: using software raid
[02:11] <bytter> ubuntu-friends, brazuca nao.. portugues!
[02:11] <bytter> zoot_, hmmm...
[02:11] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: wait... what did you try and boot in loadlin when you had the CD?
[02:11] <TiMiDo> ubuntu-friends: #ubuntu-br
[02:11] <Belutz> how to set pin for bluetooth?
[02:11] <SuseUX> LaserLine, no
[02:12] <bytter> zoot_, when it happened to me, I had hardware RAID turned on and ubuntu freaked out...
[02:12] <LaserLine> SuseUX Why ? It sounds usefull...
[02:12] <Razor-X> bytter, TiMiDo: meh, tab-complete :P
[02:12] <ubuntu_>  a primeira vez q uso esse ubuntu
[02:12] <ubuntu_> mto bom
[02:12] <Razor-X> ubuntu_: #ubuntu-br
[02:12] <sean> HUH :-? wer am i ? am i in the matrix ? :)) LOL
[02:12] <bytter> miksu, ok... so what about liquid wars? :P
[02:12] <SuseUX> LaserLine, if you use remote filesystems then yes, other then that it's useless
[02:12] <chjchjchj> razor-x looking
[02:12] <bytter> miksu, a Liquid Wars competition with 611 ppl, eheh
[02:12] <boogster> where's ubuntu?
[02:13] <ThomasM> omp: It says the release time is midnight 10-13-2005.
[02:13] <Razor-X> boogster: hmmmm?
[02:13] <Gamer2> 235 in that thread now
[02:13] <Gamer2> and gaining
[02:13] <Razor-X> ThomasM: midnight in what timezone?
[02:13] <tiax> gmt
[02:13] <omp> ThomasM: what timezone?
[02:13] <Razor-X> ok
[02:13] <ThomasM> Razor-X: GMT
[02:13] <boogster> gmt passed
[02:13] <LaserLine> SuseUX If I install Breezy on a system that already has windows, will I see all my partitiones in Ubuntu ?
[02:13] <Razor-X> 4 PM 10/13 then :P
[02:13] <bytter> ok, Forums are REALLY feeling the pressure!
[02:13] <chjchjchj> razor-x I extracted all of \install\netboot\ubuntu-installer\i386 and then did loadlin linux root=/dev/ram rw initrd=initrd.gz
[02:13] <ThomasM> Which should have been... what? an hour and fifteen minutes ago?
[02:13] <Razor-X> perfect for me :P
[02:13] <shekhar> greetings all, can someone help me with openafs/arla?
[02:13] <M4ximus> Question: what this means what am i missin ? configure:2366 error: C Compiler cannot create executable ?
[02:13] <M4ximus> please
[02:13] <omp> is it not already midnight gmt?
[02:13] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: what's the error?
[02:14] <crimsun> M4ximus: build-essential
[02:14] <boogster> gmt was 14 minutes ago
[02:14] <crimsun> shekhar: are you using BreezyL
[02:14] <crimsun> s/L/\?/
[02:14] <Prof_Frink> Hmmm, it's gonna be one fast torrent when it happens
[02:14] <zoot_> bytter: originally setup partitions on /dev/sda[123..] , then installed, then partitioned /dev/sdb[123..] , then created /dev/md[123...]  with missing disks (ie only from /dev/sdb[123..]  then rebooted (and more) then added the /dev/sda[123..]  partitions into the raid arrays - worked like a charm. now, because both mbr's contain the mbr pointing to the raid devices it seems to panic :(
[02:14] <foxgamer> boogster: gmt was an hour and 14 mins ago :)
[02:14] <ubuntu-friends> bytter: sorry? I dont understand...
[02:14] <shekhar> crimsun:  yes!
[02:14] <SuseUX> LaserLine, yes, most distros set it up for you, nenevr used WIndows with ubuntu so
[02:14] <icewt> my wget is waiting... ;)
[02:14] <evian> I'm already running breezy, do I change my repository settings when it comes out officially?
[02:14] <ThomasM> omp: I'm at GMT-5, and it's currently 20:15, but I'm not sure about daylight savings and all that.
[02:14] <bytter> ubuntu-friends, u don't understand what?
[02:14] <boogster> No GMT was 15 minutes ago, london is GMT+1 at the moment
[02:14] <M4ximus> crimsun: installing
[02:14] <omp> ThomasM: oh, i'm PST :)
[02:14] <chjchjchj> razor-x all goes well...installs from web...but tries to install everything after the reboot...ie installs base stuff and then carries on w 850 packages...no choices...eventually bombs out of room
[02:14] <G-Spot> OK, how do I get gpilot to see a usb Palm Pilot?
[02:14] <crimsun> Shadowline: are you using openafs-modules-source?
[02:14] <bytter> zoot_, now that's weird
[02:14] <sean> what are the  specification  in which i should need to install unbuntu ?
[02:14] <ThomasM> omp: You're GMT-8, then.
[02:14] <omp> ThomasM: i know :)
[02:14] <ubuntu-friends> bytter: brazuca nao.. portugues!
[02:15] <zoot_> bytter: tried: if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/sda
[02:15] <crimsun> sean: please see the RC announcement
[02:15] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: can you also get me a directory listing of that site?
[02:15] <zoot_> bytter: and for /dev/sdb
[02:15] <sean> hmmmm.... RC ?
[02:15] <foxgamer> boogster: It was an hour and 14 mins ago. I am in uk. I should know ;)
[02:15] <LaserLine> Anyone knows if after Installing Breezy on a Windows XP Machine I'll see all of my partitiones?
[02:15] <zoot_> bytter: of course prepended by 'dd'
[02:15] <boogster> I am in the UK TOO, UK is GMT+1 this time of year
[02:15] <chjchjchj> razor-x what site?
[02:15] <ThomasM> G-Spot: I've not looked into it for a few years, but I had to use 'dmesg' to find out which USB /dev slot it was on, and then either symlink that from /dev/pilot or configure g-pilot to use that /dev slot.
[02:15] <bytter> zoot_, don't have a clue... try with only 2 disks first
[02:15] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: nevermind, sorry, I just got another idea
[02:15] <shekhar> crimsun:  you mean shekhar, not Shadowline... yes, i have installed openafs-modules-source and openafs-client
[02:15] <bytter> zoot_, sorry, two partitions
[02:16] <evian> LaserLIne, I don't think they show up without you doing your own mounts
[02:16] <SuseUX> LaserLine, fat32?
[02:16] <boogster> GMT: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/
[02:16] <gmjonker> Laserline: I didnt see mine, but it was not so hard to mount them. My usb drives did show up nicely though.
[02:16] <boogster> 00:16 GMT
[02:16] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: there should be an Ubuntu boot floppy out there, lemme see if there isn't (been a while since i've helped out here)
[02:16] <zoot_> bytter: how's that going to help?
[02:16] <crimsun> shekhar: yes, nick-complete fubar and me->work
[02:16] <chjchjchj> razor-x appreciate it all
[02:16] <crimsun> Shadowline: sorry
[02:16] <zoot_> it's the mbr that seems poked
[02:16] <bytter> zoot_, dunno! just a guess
[02:16] <paradon> 'date -u' gives you GMT.
[02:16] <zoot_> ;)
[02:16] <G-Spot> ThomasM, good call. I didn't thing of checking the logs. First rule of a sys admin too.... doh!
[02:16] <LaserLine> gmjonker What do I need to do to see all my windows drives ? I have NTFS and FAT32 partitiones...
[02:17] <ThomasM> boogster: Thanks for the link.  What are the dates for UK's daylight savings?  I've been wondering about that lately, especially with the US legislating a change in dates.
[02:17] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: ahhh, it doesen't have a boot floppy, then I suspected right... we'll have to work with a Debian boot floppy
[02:17] <zoot_> bytter: know anyone with software raid experience here? though i think it's more subtle, as this install i'm NOT using raid
[02:17] <evian> LaserLine: man fstab
[02:17] <sean> aw well  I think i might just install  windows server on this computer instead :P  made the computer mite respond faster :P
[02:17] <LaserLine> gmjonker I thought AutoFS will do that for me...
[02:17] <shekhar> crimsun:  i think i had it working okay, the /afs directory was placed in my root directory, but i don't know how to mount the afs volume
[02:17] <Xenguy> haha
[02:17] <gmjonker> Laserline: edit your fstab file. I dont know about AutoFS, im quite a newbie myself.
[02:17] <bytter> zoot_, well.. i'm using software RAID right now...
[02:17] <boogster> ThomasM see here: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=136
[02:17] <zoot_> bytter: oh ;)
[02:17] <gnomefreak> razor-x: the only boot disk ive seen for ubuntu is the cd i dont ever remember hearing of anyone making a floppy
[02:17] <zoot_> bytter: how would _you_ delete the mbr of a disk?
[02:18] <bytter> zoot_, got three partitions in /dev/sda and /dev/sdb... partition sda2 and sdb2 make my /dev/md0
[02:18] <shekhar> crimsun:  i have also heard of something called arla...
[02:18] <ThomasM> G-Spot: When I did it, there were two entries both pilot-related.  I think it uses one for keepalive checks and one for data, but I'm not sure.  In any case, I think it worked using the first entry.
[02:18] <bytter> zoot_, but I have /boot on a non-raid partition
[02:18] <Razor-X> gnomefreak: that's what I thought... just been a while since i've helped out, Sophmore year is being a **** to me
[02:18] <gmjonker> Laserline: http://ubuntuguide.org tells you all these things.
[02:18] <ericl> How do you limit the amount of talk you see in chat?
[02:18] <Razor-X> ericl: think about the people who help in here :P
[02:18] <Trashcan> lol
[02:18] <bytter> zoot_, the dd should do it... either that or just fdisk the thing...
[02:18] <Razor-X> ericl: you learn to live with it/chat in it just fine
[02:18] <ThomasM> boogster: Good God, man.  Any other useful links for time zones you have squirreled away?
[02:18] <shekhar> cd -
[02:19] <gnomefreak> razor-x i know the feeling    now i dont know if someone has ever tried to make one but im sure somehow it can be done
[02:19] <zoot_> bytter: hmmmm... i've done this sort of thing on monster servers before with complicated setups, but this... very confusing
[02:19] <bytter> OsvaldoGago, tuga?
[02:19] <Razor-X> gnomefreak: well, if the Ubuntu boot-image is larger than the floppy size, it may be hard
[02:19] <zoot_> bytter: not ubuntu (slackware)
[02:20] <foxgamer> Anyone able to help with getting libtcl8.4.so.0 seen by a program?
[02:20] <Razor-X> ThomasM: I have ratpoison maximizing a Konsole screen with the menu and tab bars removed, and i've split the screen half-way, and one half contains this channel :P
[02:20] <gnomefreak> Razor-X, true
[02:20] <LaserLine> How can I find out on what /dev/hda are my windows partition (what do i have to type in terminal)
[02:20] <bytter> zoot_, ok... from the begging... u've tried fdisking it all, right? then boot Ubuntu Installation, go through the setup, then reach the cfdisk wizard...
[02:20] <bytter> zoot_, what's happening next?
[02:20] <SuseUX> foxgamer, yep
[02:20] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: you still here?
[02:20] <yeti-slayer> just installed ubuntu when i sudo -s i still have 0 perms for my hard drive help?
[02:20] <chjchjchj> raxor-x still here; trying to follow; did I miss something?
[02:20] <ThomasM> Razor-X: Heh. Mine's a putty window stretched full at 10-pt.
[02:20] <gmjonker> LaserLine: fdisk -l usually does it
[02:20] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: yeah, meh
[02:20] <zoot_> bytter: deleted all previous partitions, created different ones, anew, formatted and installed
[02:20] <shekhar> crimsun:  can you help?
[02:20] <chjchjchj> razor-x trying to follow with a tiny irc client...no disk space, see! No scrolling...aaargh
[02:21] <Razor-X> ThomasM: :P, I can provide a screenshot, if you want
[02:21] <foxgamer> SuseUX: I am trying to run a program that needs that file, but it says that it cannot find it.
[02:21] <bytter> zoot_, how many software raid did u created?
[02:21] <LaserLine> evian if it's fat32 I should use 'vfat' in the fstab file ?
[02:21] <crimsun> shekhar: sorry, was away taking care of MOTU stuff
[02:21] <zoot_> bytter: 6 partitions on each disk
[02:21] <bytter> zoot_, like, have you made /boot RAID?
[02:21] <boogster> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/jigit/
[02:21] <SuseUX> foxgamer, look in /usr/lib for libtcl8.4.so
[02:21] <zoot_> bytter: yes
[02:21] <ThomasM> LaserLine: I use fdisk's list mode.  'fdisk -l /dev/hdX' where X is a through b, to find out what partitions are available on what standard IDE drives.
[02:21] <zoot_> bytter: originally, but not this time
[02:21] <bytter> zoot_, and swap too?
[02:21] <ThomasM> Razor-X: Sure. 'S'always nice to see how someone else customizes their lives.
[02:21] <zoot_> bytter: no, not swap
[02:21] <evian> Laserline, yeah
[02:21] <SuseUX> foxgamer, actually in /lib
[02:21] <yeti-slayer> just installed ubuntu when i sudo -s i still have 0 perms for my hard drive help?
[02:22] <foxgamer> SuseUX: I have and it is there. I have also used ldconfig | grep libtcl and it is recognised.
[02:22] <shekhar> crimsun:  so i think i had it installed okay, the /afs directory was created in my root filesystem, but how do i mount an afs volume?
[02:22] <bytter> zoot_, oh, ok! swap doesn't need to be raided... I think youre problem must be with /boot being RAIDED
[02:22] <zucchi3> PLEASE HELP - I just downloaded the beta Firefox 1.5 for Linux.  Do I extract it, or run it? How??
[02:22] <SuseUX> foxgamer, make a symlink to it
[02:22] <zucchi3> Please help
[02:22] <zoot_> bytter: want to install without raid onto one disk, them manually create later, as i did earlier today without problems
[02:22] <TiMiDo> zucchi3: ask
[02:22] <zucchi3> who?
[02:22] <foxgamer> SuseUX: Okaly. How do I do that?
[02:23] <LaserLine> Thanks !
[02:23] <TiMiDo> ask you're question zucchi3
[02:23] <zoot_> bytter: this _must_ have to do with the mbr's
[02:23] <fdr> ln -s /path/ symlinkname
[02:23] <SuseUX> foxgamer, ln -s libtcl8.4.so /lib/libtcl8.4.so.0
[02:23] <Rounin> zucchi3: If you're using Ubuntu, then try installing it via apt-get instead of downloading it
[02:23] <ThomasM> I know sudo can be told to allow commands.  Can you forbid it certian commands, as well?  I'd rather say what I don't want a user to do, than the other way around.
[02:23] <zoot_> bytter: i even nuked the partitions and mbr's using another rescue disk
[02:23] <TiMiDo> ThomasM: man chmod
[02:23] <boogster> UBUNTU http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily/20051013/
[02:23] <bytter> zoot_, I don't believe it's mbr related...
[02:23] <fdr> ThomasM, try visudo
[02:24] <ThomasM> fdr: I'm more asking what the syntax would be when using visudo.
[02:24] <fdr> as I recall, there is a permission scheme specifically for what can be sudo'd, so "man visudo"
[02:24] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: i'm going to propose one of those whacky ideas which are hit-or-miss, but may become useful for those people in bad condition :P
[02:24] <zoot_> bytter: any clue what else if i've nuked everything and started from scratch
[02:24] <SuseUX> foxgamer, assuming your in that directory
[02:24] <zucchi3> It's not there - so I downloaded it form the webstie- I downloaded Firefox and need to know how to get it up and running
[02:24] <keffynd> morning all
[02:24] <bytter> zoot_, actually... no :P
[02:24] <boogster> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily/20051013/ - is this the final?
[02:24] <Razor-X> ThomasM: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/ratpoison.png
[02:24] <kbrooks> ThomasM: visudo opens up a temp file
[02:24] <chjchjchj> razor-x ok...<grabs for the vodka>
[02:24] <TiMiDo> zucchi3: sudo apt-get install mozila-firefox
[02:24] <kbrooks> in $EDITOR
[02:25] <ThomasM> kbrooks: Yes. I know this.  Nevermind.
[02:25] <zoot_> bytter: thx for trying to help, it's 2:24am here ... need some zzzz now ;)
[02:25] <fdr> boogster, that's why we probably didn't jump up when you mentoined it :)
[02:25] <Razor-X> ThomasM: the background on the window is part of my Konsole theme only, only that little corner on the top-right of the screenshot is ratpoison :P
[02:25] <bytter> zoot_, np... 1h25 here :P
[02:25] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: can you free up more space for this project, first of all?
[02:25] <crimsun> shekhar: please see the openafs documentation. Apologies, but I have a call.
[02:25] <zoot_> bytter: cheers
[02:25] <bytter> zoot_, cheers and good luck
[02:25] <chjchjchj> razor-x remember current state is, if I boot I get the grub menu...and it just starts trying to set up...but gets jammed up. Prob needs repartitioning.
[02:25] <LaserLine> 2:25 here too...
[02:25] <shekhar> crimsun:  ok
[02:26] <fdr> Razor-X: a Trigun fan?
[02:26] <omp> hmm
[02:26] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: you have no other PC whatsoever?
[02:26] <Razor-X> fdr: anime in general, Trigun was pretty cool, and provides a nice Konsole background
[02:26] <chjchjchj> razor-x I could maybe get another 300mb if I try...not much more than that. Current free is 1gb. The HDD is 4.5, 98 is using 1Gb, which I am using for work...2K is using a little under 1Gb...and I dont dare delete that yet
[02:26] <ThomasM> kbrooks: I know this.  It opens up a temporary file that is written to /etc/sudoers when finished.  My question was: what's the syntax for disallowing certain commands, rather than listing all allowed commands.  Nevermind, though.  I'll figure it out myself, without saying the same thing a dozen times.
[02:26] <chjchjchj> razor-x sure I have lots of other PCs, all in the UK, and I am in Japan!
[02:26] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: ahh! meh
[02:27] <omp> so i'm confused now.. is breezy released yet or no?
[02:27] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: wow, tihs is a challenge... can you boot up windows, in any shape or form?
[02:27] <chjchjchj> raxor-x I could prob use a PC from a mate...but kinda would like to work out how to do this without
[02:27] <ThomasM> omp: Looks like they're running late.
[02:27] <chjchjchj> razor-x yes np am in win 98 right now
[02:27] <Razor-X> s/tihs/this/
[02:27] <foxgamer> SuseUX: It says that the file already exists. Shall I delete this file (or move it) and do it again?
[02:27] <omp> ThomasM: oh :(
[02:27] <chjchjchj> razor-x 98 and 2k both booting fine
[02:27] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: excellent </Mr. Burns>
[02:27] <chjchjchj> lol
[02:27] <SuseUX> foxgamer, what file?
[02:27] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: now, can you get dd for windows?
[02:28] <ThomasM> Razor-X: I like the style and the desktop manager.  Your font colors sure are hard to read, though.  White text on a sometimes almost-white background would drive me nuts.
[02:28] <bytter> "We are just starting to set the feature list for Dapper (6.04) ..." I heard they wanted to do  something with the boot times by changing the old sysv init scheme... anyone has a clue about it?
[02:28] <kbrooks> omp: what dont you like about gentoo
[02:28] <chjchjchj> dd? what does it do? I prob have an equiv
[02:28] <foxgamer> SuseUX: /lib/libtcl8.4.so.0
[02:28] <omp> kbrooks: the compiling gets annoying :p
[02:28] <ThomasM> chjchjchj: Reads and writes blocks directly from/to the device.
[02:28] <Razor-X> ThomasM: it does blend in and become hard to read, on occasion, that's why I put my IRC channel up-top and homework on bottom, when working on homework
[02:28] <kbrooks> omp: what do you mean?
[02:29] <chjchjchj> razor-x ok I will go get it...brb
[02:29] <ThomasM> Razor-X: Why not just go bright green active color, or tint the background?
[02:29] <SuseUX> foxgamer, then your program should find it
[02:29] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: it reads and writes (mostly) RAW to your device, I have found no Windows equivalent yet
[02:29] <willert> chjchjchj, Razor-X: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ has dd for win32
[02:29] <ThomasM> Razor-X: Though, TBH, the all-grayscale thing looks pretty cool.
[02:29] <omp> kbrooks: when you download something in gentoo, it compiles it from source
[02:29] <Razor-X> ThomasM: because the contrast is _too_ great if you stare at the console for too long :P
[02:29] <omp> kbrooks: to get gnome installed it takes me about 8 hours
[02:29] <chjchjchj> razor-x ah, only linux then, so I cant run it...err...and I have to ask - why do you want to write direct? This machine boots fine into 98 and 2k...grub works fine...
[02:29] <fdr> omp: I thought there were binary packages as well, but given the culture of the whole thing I suppose reduces their prevalence
[02:29] <foxgamer> SuseUX: That's what I thought. I shall try renaming the old file and doing it again and then reboot.  Nice.
[02:30] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: if you can grab that, i'm going to try and propose a crazy idea
[02:30] <Razor-X> ThomasM: yeahp, Open Office is up only because I was typing up a poster of sorts
[02:30] <chjchjchj> razor-x...ok...will get it...will shout when back
[02:30] <fdr> ThomasM: May I suggest getting started with LyX?
[02:30] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: mmmkay, give me a PM when you get back, if i'm not readily responding :P
[02:30] <SuseUX> foxgamer, you could try symlinking it to /usr/lib
[02:30] <zucchi3> what's apt-get??????
[02:30] <ThomasM> fdr: Hrm?
[02:31] <Razor-X> ThomasM: don't go along with LaTeX if you aren't in-style with it, start with ConTex
[02:31] <foxgamer> SuseUX: Okay. Thank you. I'll give that a try first.
[02:31] <ThomasM> fdr: Is it a simple set or something?
[02:31] <Razor-X> ThomasM: s/ex/eX/
[02:31] <NoUse> !apt-get
[02:31] <ubotu> I guess apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[02:31] <fdr> ThomasM: A "WYSIWYM" editor for TeX of the La variety.
[02:31] <Razor-X> ThomasM: LyX is a semi-graphical attempt at LaTeX
[02:31] <LaserLine> Where are all the .desktop files in Ubuntu (GNOME) ? where are they stored ?
[02:31] <being> I believe it is a program for getting an application
[02:31] <ThomasM> I'm more interested in using it from code than actually working in it regularly.
[02:31] <fdr> ThomasM: At least you can export it as TeX to get some working examples.
[02:31] <mustard5> LaserLine, in home folder
[02:32] <keffynd> anyone here have experience with TV tuners? USB and internal?
[02:32] <LaserLine> Where in Home folder?
[02:32] <chjchjchj> razor-x bak have dd for win...please try not to make this thing unbootable
[02:32] <ThomasM> Razor-X: TeX can do graphics, yes?
[02:32] <mustard5> hidden files
[02:32] <NoUse> keffynd I have a bit of experience
[02:32] <ThomasM> Razor-X: And multiple columns or text groups?
[02:32] <Razor-X> I have to say, excluding the few bumps I started out with, it's pretty nice
[02:32] <Razor-X> ThomasM: yeah, it can
[02:32] <Trashcan> laserline: .xxx files are hidden
[02:32] <fdr> Well, TeX is used for just about every technical publication, so it better ;)
[02:32] <ThomasM> Razor-X: Is there a way to discover from code (say perl or C) how large a certain text/graphic area is, if allowed to expand horizontally or vertically to fit the contents?
[02:32] <LaserLine> I know it's hidden..
[02:32] <mustard5> LaserLine, select 'Show hidden files' in nautilus
[02:32] <LaserLine> in what dir in home ?
[02:33] <mustard5> in your user directory
[02:33] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: i'm going to give you three floppy images, I want you to pastebin the contents of all three for me, and i'll judge if my idea is correct
[02:33] <ThomasM> Razor-X: I'm talking about automatic laying-out of things like newspapers (to use a simple example), where the program needs to be able to discover how much space is remaining to choose the next page element.
[02:33] <skep> or press Strg+H
[02:33] <SuseUX> LaserLine, you dont mean hidden do you?, you mean the file extension .desktop?
[02:33] <chjchjchj> razor-x ok
[02:33] <t3c0> d
[02:33] <Razor-X> ThomasM: there are complex LaTeX ways, actually
[02:34] <bytefoo> anyone know why ubuntu would lock up after being on but unattended for a few hours
[02:34] <LaserLine> SuseUX I mean the files that you creat, edit etc, to see an Icon in the 'Application' Menu, on the Desktop, on the panel... etc...
[02:34] <Razor-X> ThomasM: check out ``LaTeX: A Document Preperation System'' by Lamport
[02:34] <mustard5> bytefoo, power management problem?
[02:34] <miksu> +
[02:34] <chjchjchj> razor-x currently here is 4 partitons, 1 is win32 running 98, 2 is ntfs/2k, 3 & 4 are the attempted install (can be wiped)
[02:34] <ThomasM> Razor-X: Cool. Thank you, kindly.
[02:34] <weob> hey
[02:34] <hyphenated> mmm, LaTeX makes for some gorgeous documents
[02:34] <weob> anyone got 3d working on breezy ?
[02:34] <weob> nvidia
[02:34] <Razor-X> hyphenated: very :P
[02:34] <bytefoo> why would they change power management from hoary to breezy though?
[02:34] <SuseUX> LaserLine, thants what I thought, they seem to be somewhere else in ubuntu
[02:35] <weob> i tried using the nvidia install package and it wont do it
[02:35] <weob> i have kernel headers  -
[02:35] <weob> it fails to load the .ko file
[02:35] <budluva> anyone know where i can find firestarter for breezy? is it in the universe repo?
[02:35] <d3vice> weob, maybe breezy has a package with nvidia drivers
[02:35] <weob> i tried it
[02:35] <chjchjchj> razor-x I *could* wipe 2k and give >2gb to the install...but reluctant to ditch a working os
[02:35] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/floppy/boot.img and http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/floppy/root.img
[02:35] <weob> it doesnt enable 3d
[02:35] <budluva> and how safe is it to use the breezy universe repo?
[02:35] <fryfrog> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade when using breezy badger should get final when released, right?
[02:35] <d3vice> weob, weird
[02:35] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: I won't need 2 GB, more likely 3 MB :P
[02:35] <bytefoo> super safe :/
[02:35] <bytefoo> it comes out tomorrow :O
[02:35] <chjchjchj> razor-x received...am grabbing them...give me a min (of ignoring this chat)
[02:36] <LaserLine> SuseUX yeah, I can't find them, and when you install Kubuntu you get filled with Icons in the Application Menu and in System menu...
[02:36] <Razor-X> Razor-X: or, plan B, 700 MB
[02:36] <caustictwin> anyone know a good ftp client with ssl/tls support?
[02:36] <fdr> weob: did you notice the thing in the package description that says you need to type some command for it to edit your x.conf?
[02:36] <SuseUX> weo, did you follow the nvidia howto ubuntu guide?
[02:36] <bytefoo> doesnt gftp do ssl/tls
[02:36] <Razor-X> ThomasM: you read my homework didn't you? :P
[02:36] <d3vice> fdr :)
[02:36] <BlueMat> whens breezy stable?
[02:36] <weob> yes it doesnt work on mine
[02:36] <caustictwin> bytefoo: I don't think so...
[02:36] <bytefoo> BlueMat, tomorrow. :|
[02:36] <ThomasM> Razor-X: Not really.  Just the markup, until I figured out what I was looking at.
[02:36] <Rounin> Even though it is tomorrow now?
[02:36] <BlueMat> bytefoo, YAYYY!!!
[02:36] <SuseUX> weo, what have you done when installing the nvidia package?
[02:36] <mustard5> fryfrog, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:36] <Bergcube> It says on the fridge it's released now......  Confusing.
[02:36] <weob> aha - but there is an update to download - hopefully it fixes it
[02:37] <fdr> d3vice: eh? what's up?
[02:37] <Razor-X> ThomasM: ahhh, ok, I designed it to be that way (although I know some who read it :P)
[02:37] <ScatterBrain> Is there a way to "upgrade" to Breezy from the ISO image?
[02:37] <BlueMat> tomorrow as in friday?
[02:37] <weob> i told it to try to compile it
[02:37] <ScatterBrain> IE Hoary --> Breezy
[02:37] <d3vice> fdr i was just thinking about some command for it to edit your x.conf too...
[02:37] <weob> it failed
[02:37] <t3c0> ScatterBrain, id LOVE to know that too
[02:37] <SuseUX> weo, the one from nvidia.com?
[02:37] <weob> complained about not being compiled with the proper gcc version
[02:37] <weob> yes
[02:37] <SuseUX> ahhh
[02:37] <mustard5> fryfrog, plus changing your sources.list
[02:37] <SuseUX> ok
[02:38] <ScatterBrain> I know that I could do the "apt-get upgrade" thingy, but It would *SO* cool to just a CD in and go.
[02:38] <chjchjchj> razor-x ok I have the 2 img files
[02:38] <weob> i have kubuntu on my hdd waiting to be burnt - very tempted to try it out
[02:38] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: can you inflate the contents of the two images, and paste the filenames into pastebin?
[02:38] <weob> i like kde moreso than gnome
[02:38] <chjchjchj> razor-x btw I have the iso of the ubuntu install, still, you know?
[02:38] <SuseUX> weo, run CC=gcc-3.4
[02:38] <weob> i did that
[02:38] <weob> it resulted inthe same error
[02:38] <chjchjchj> razor-x sorry wtf is pastebin?
[02:38] <Razor-X> weob: Kubuntu is awesome, I don't use KDE anymore, but I use many of the utilities, because they work excellent even without KDE
[02:38] <drummer87> where's my breezy!!!
[02:38] <zucchi3> I understand how to use apt get but I can't find firefox 1.5 - where is it???
[02:39] <weob> lol
[02:39] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: oh cool, then that simples things up some
[02:39] <axeus> It says I have 451 updates... I'm afraid to update any of them.
[02:39] <SuseUX> weo, still saying gcc error?
[02:39] <Rounin> apt-get install firefox or apt-get install mozilla-firefox ?
[02:39] <fdr> zucchi3: I do not think it is in the default selection of repositories
[02:39] <weob> yes
[02:39] <mustard5> !tell chjchjchj about pastebin
[02:39] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: www.pastebin.com
[02:39] <Razor-X> meh
[02:39] <zucchi3> how do i find it
[02:39] <SuseUX> weo, CC=gcc-3.4 and export CC
[02:39] <weob> i even tried CC=gcc-4.0.2 and didnt work - i dunno what to do
[02:39] <SuseUX> ?
[02:39] <weob> yes i tried that
[02:39] <bytefoo> i dont think they put firefox 1.5 in since its a beta?
[02:39] <Razor-X> weob: I use ratpoison actually, a very nice WM in many respects
[02:39] <zucchi3> yeah
[02:40] <weob> ok ill check it out
[02:40] <tiax> well
[02:40] <fdr> zucchi3: You'd have to probably download the binary or sources from the firefox site and perform the necessary steps to install them.
[02:40] <SuseUX> weo, just ignor it then
[02:40] <bytefoo> yes, probably the saem for deerpark too
[02:40] <weob> ignore it?
[02:40] <zucchi3> It's on their website though - can I download it from there - and how?
[02:40] <bytefoo> what a horrendous name by the way :/
[02:40] <NoUse> zucchi3 unless you have a really good reason to use firefox beta stick the version in apt-get
[02:40] <weob> i want 3d so i can play wow damn it ! haah
[02:40] <SuseUX> weo, yes you can bypass it, just by saying NO
[02:40] <weob> bypass what?
[02:41] <SuseUX> the gcc error message
[02:41] <weob> no i did that
[02:41] <rizla> hi
[02:41] <SuseUX> weo, ok, Did you install the nvidia-glx package first?
[02:41] <weob> there are new updates so im gonna reboot and see what happens after the updates are finished and maybe try installing again\
[02:41] <weob> yes
[02:41] <weob> but for 3d they dont do it
[02:41] <SuseUX> ok
[02:41] <rizla> how can i set my pc ip?
[02:41] <chjchjchj> razor-x am working...getting a .img extractor etc...brb
[02:42] <SuseUX> weo, what card?
[02:42] <weob> i uninstall them when i try to install nvidia's
[02:42] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: cool
[02:42] <weob> 6800 ultra
[02:42] <mustard5> ScatterBrain, there is a way
[02:42] <SuseUX> weo, they uninstall both packages?
[02:42] <SuseUX> weob, you uninstall both packages?
[02:42] <weob> what both packages?
[02:42] <weob> nvidia-glx ?
[02:42] <weob> i thought that was the only one
[02:42] <ScatterBrain> mustard5: Please enlighten us.
[02:42] <SuseUX> the nvidia-glx and common
[02:43] <weob> oh and common
[02:43] <weob> otherwise that might cause the error?
[02:43] <mustard5> I thought it would work the way it explains on the wiki
[02:43] <SuseUX> maybe but you need to make sure the nvidia module it unloaded
[02:43] <ScatterBrain> !wiki
[02:43] <mustard5> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:43] <weob> yes
[02:43] <SuseUX> is*
[02:43] <mustard5> the first paragraph talks about installing from CD and synaptic
[02:43] <weob> k gonna reboot and try that - thanks
[02:44] <SuseUX> lsmod shouldn't show nvidia
[02:44] <weob> will let you know if it works
[02:44] <SuseUX> webono reboot
[02:44] <SuseUX> no
[02:44] <adil> hi
[02:44] <weob> no reboot needed after update ?
[02:44] <budluva> how safe is the universe repo in breezy?
[02:44] <SuseUX> weob, rebooting dont do anything
[02:44] <weob> haha ok
[02:44] <SuseUX> not Windows
[02:44] <mustard5> budluva, safe is a relative word
[02:44] <weob> well that's all ive been used to
[02:44] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: again, PM me if I don't respond immediately, because i'm also surfing the web
[02:45] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: plus, I can't stay _too_ much longer, I have the PSAT to study for
[02:45] <SuseUX> weob, you only need to reboot after installing a new kernel, thats all
[02:45] <weob> oh ok cool
[02:45] <tristanmike> weob, generally a reboot should only be needed when dealing with kernel upgrades, but software and updates, nah, don't need it
[02:45] <weob> have you ever tried suspend to ram - is it very stable or you dont recommend with a beta release ?
[02:45] <fryfrog> so i have double clicked on a desktop applet and it makes my mouse pointer into a little fist and... for the life of me, i can't figure out what its supposed to do or how to turn it *off* (the keyboard still behaves as normal)
[02:46] <foxgamer> SuseUX: I have managed to get it reading the file, but now I get 'cannot open share object file: error 40'
[02:46] <Razor-X> fryfrog: what applet?
[02:46] <axeus> weob: I'm sure it works just fine.
[02:46] <weob> my kernel has been updated though so i will need to reboot :D
[02:46] <fryfrog> i think it was on the cpu freq scale applet
[02:46] <SuseUX> foxgamer, thats too bad :-)
[02:46] <fryfrog> though i was hoping it would let me drag it arround to re arrange
[02:46] <axeus> weob: I don't use it though... I use Suspend to Drive
[02:46] <foxgamer> hehe
[02:47] <fryfrog> i just can't find any way of getting out of what ever mode it is in, mainly cause i dunno what its doing!
[02:47] <weob> still faster bootup?
[02:47] <SuseUX> weob, make sure you do "sudo rmmod nvidia" and then run the nvidia driver script
[02:48] <weob> ok
[02:48] <chjchjchj> razor-x ok duly unimg'd and pastebin'd <you learn something new every day>  posted by zzz
[02:48] <SuseUX> that is the couse of why it says cannot load nvidia.ko
[02:48] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: can you get me an exact link though?
[02:49] <chjchjchj> razor-x 391796
[02:49] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: not number, but URL :P
[02:49] <miksu> i have a very bad feeling. all the years with struggling
[02:49] <chjchjchj> razor-x http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=391796
[02:49] <miksu> with windows and now everything works
[02:49] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: thanks much
[02:49] <neoliminal> can someone point me to a wiki or tell me how to configure/start zope in ubuntu?
[02:50] <miksu> this is strange
[02:50] <mustard5> fryfrog, restart gnome-applets?
[02:50] <N17R0> how can I make a startmenu shortcut to make "/etc/init.d/proftpd start" execute?
[02:50] <fryfrog> i'll just restart X when synaptic is done :)
[02:51] <mustard5> hehehe
[02:51] <fryfrog> just wondering if anyone knew what that little fistie guy was
[02:51] <chjchjchj> can't wait to get this thing installed so I can use a decent IRC client and actually see wtf is going on :-)
[02:51] <mustard5> that'll do it :D
[02:51] <fryfrog> new kernel got cpu scaling to work, but broke boot splash prettyness :(
[02:51] <Rounin> Hm... I'm unable to compile anything because /lib/cpp fails sanity check and I lack i-486-linux-lots-of-stuff... How do I fix that?
[02:51] <Rounin> I've installed everything I could think of
[02:51] <SuseUX> Ronald, install gcc
[02:52] <mustard5> Rounin, build-essential ?
[02:52] <Rounin> I have gcc....
[02:52] <Rounin> Oh, thanks... I was hoping there'd be such a package
[02:52] <shekhar> greetings, can anyone help me out with openafs and kerberos?
[02:52] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: can you try using loadlin on the ``linux'' kernel of the first boot-image?
[02:53] <chjchjchj> razor-x sure, and do what else when I get there? initrd?
[02:53] <gleesond> I'm having trouble making a makefile
[02:53] <mustard5> what are you installing gleesond ?
[02:54] <gleesond> MPlayer
[02:54] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: yeah, put it into /dev/ram, and also specify the initrd
[02:54] <mustard5> isnt that available through synaptic?
[02:54] <bytter> ok.. anyone got a clue why the hell I can't access my ntfs partition without being root?
[02:54] <Razor-X> gleesond: you're getting it from CVS?
[02:55] <bytter> BUT I can access a FAT32 partition :P
[02:55] <gleesond> I don't know what synaptic is.... does it  always come with the codecs
[02:55] <chjchjchj> razor-x which initrd?
[02:55] <Razor-X> bytter: try ``sudo mount /dev/ntfs/partition /mnt/mount/point -t ntfs -o umask=0222''
[02:55] <rob_p> N17R0:  Did you figure it out yet?
[02:55] <gleesond> I got it off their website
[02:55] <mustard5> I can show you how to get codecs and install via synatpic
[02:55] <NoUse> !ntfs
[02:55] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[02:55] <ThomasM> bytter: I remember hitting that barrier and fixing it, but not how.  It had to do with setting read and write bits in the mount command, like Razor-X just pointed out.
[02:55] <bytter> hmmm
[02:55] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: initrd.gz
[02:55] <mustard5> use synaptic instead
[02:55] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: if the initrd doesen't work, try unzipping the gz file
[02:55] <Karasu> Hi all
[02:55] <VoX> when is libdrm going to be put back in to breezy?
[02:55] <bytter> ThomasM, Razor-X: Can I put that umask in /etc/fstab?
[02:56] <mustard5> !tell gleesond about restricted formats
[02:56] <ThomasM> bytter: Yep. That's a standard mount option.
[02:56] <Karasu> anyone knows when 5.10 will be final?
[02:56] <sector10> is there simple home networking in ubuntu, like between 2 ubuntu boxes?
[02:56] <chjchjchj> razor-x np; the initrd from the root img yeah?
[02:56] <Razor-X> bytter: yeah, you sohuld be able to
[02:56] <joe__> i need a repository that can help me get this package E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame
[02:56] <ThomasM> bytter: After 'noauto' or whahatever, just type ',umask=0222'.
[02:56] <mustard5> !tell gleeson about synaptic
[02:56] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: yeah, same with the root.img's ``linux''
[02:56] <ThomasM> !fstab
[02:56] <ubotu> ThomasM: What?
[02:56] <bytter> ThomasM, Razor-X: ok, testing...
[02:57] <mustard5> gleeson..ubotu should have some answers for you
[02:57] <Razor-X> gleesond: you can install mplayer with synaptic/apt-get/aptitude, or compile it yourself
[02:57] <gleesond> I know about ristricted formats thats why I;m trying to install MPlayer from sorce code
[02:57] <ThomasM> bytter: It'd probably read something like "ro,umask=0222" in column 4 (options) of /etc/fstab.
[02:57] <Razor-X> gleesond: win32codecs is a package in the universe repository that contains the codecs
[02:57] <Razor-X> gleesond: errr w32codecs
[02:57] <mustard5> the instructions for getting win32codecs is there
[02:57] <gleesond> but when I sudo ./make
[02:57] <bytter> ThomasM, sweet! it worked :P thx guys!
[02:57] <N17R0> rob_p: No I did not yet figure it out
[02:57] <gleesond> it doesn't work
[02:58] <foxgamer> SuseUX: So any ideas where I can go from here?
[02:58] <ThomasM> gleesond: There are also repositories that contain mplayer for debian/ubuntu with all options compiled in.
[02:58] <Razor-X> gleesond: how doesen't it work?
[02:58] <joe__> can anyone help?
[02:58] <Razor-X> ThomasM: hmm, there are? I compiled it myself with a few extra features and codecs
[02:58] <gleesond> command not found
[02:58] <chjchjchj> razor-x; not enough memory thru the shell; I can boot to dos and do it; any other instructions when I get there?
[02:58] <bytter> what are the mask for read-write?
[02:58] <SuseUX> foxgamer, not sure
[02:58] <mustard5> gleesond, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:58] <bytter> *is*
[02:58] <ThomasM> gleesond: It's not recommended, as installing from outside repositories can conflict with in-repositories, but you'll find more data at http://debian.video.free.fr/
[02:58] <bytter> 0333?
[02:59] <bytter> (fat32.. ntfs is compiled without write support)
[02:59] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: only that you should try and copy initrd.gz and inflate it, in case loadlin can't read compressed ``initrd'' files
[02:59] <ThomasM> Razor-X: See that link I just posted.  I've installed mplayer on Debian Sarge/Sid and Ubuntu Hoary using that repository.
[02:59] <foxgamer> SuseUX: Okay. Thanks for your help though. I'll have a look/ask around and see if I can solve it
[02:59] <Razor-X> bytter: the umask is the opposite of the chmod user-bit
[02:59] <SuseUX> np
[02:59] <joe__> SuseUX, i am having a hard time with multimedia codecs, i can't get this install to happen E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-lame
[02:59] <joe__> , i've already set up my repositories and backports but i still can't get the file
[02:59] <bytter> Razor-X, oh... so for 111 is 000?
[02:59] <chjchjchj> razor-x the gz'd initrd will work - the ubunto one did...but where will I get to when I run it?
[03:00] <miksu> http://www.di.fm/                            declared by miksu with my recommend for the online party channel - try out vocal trance, no playing la luna-fallin
[03:00] <Razor-X> bytter: not really, 000 is 777
[03:00] <joe__> does any one have a good repository for this?
[03:00] <ThomasM> Razor-X,gleesond: You'll probably want to use the 'sid' repositories.
[03:00] <VoX> when is libdrm going to be put back in to breezy?
[03:00] <bytter> Razor-X, 777 is 111 111 111 :P I was thinking in bits :P
[03:00] <mustard5> you on breezy, joe__ ?
[03:00] <joe__> no hoary
[03:00] <mustard5> k
[03:00] <mustard5> did you add marillat repo?
[03:00] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: well, it should ask you for another floppy, and if you can, try and provide the location of boot.img
[03:01] <eyequeue> um, expecting changes to breezy at this hour?
[03:01] <joe__> no
[03:01] <joe__> give me uri?
[03:01] <Razor-X> chjchjchj: if the installer starts, tell me, if it can't find the file, tell me, if it doesen't load, tell me :P
[03:01] <mustard5> did you follow the instructions?
[03:01] <Razor-X> bytter: I understood :P
[03:01] <joe__> yes
[03:01] <SuseUX> seems some updated will not download
[03:01] <chjchjchj> razor-x; ok wilco...bbl
[03:01] <joe__> i went thru the adding repos in unoffical
[03:01] <rob_p> N17R0:  Right-click on the taskbar and select, "Add to Panel."  Then select, "Custom Application Launcher."
[03:01] <ThomasM> joe__: http://debian.video.free.fr/
[03:01] <SuseUX> updates*
[03:01] <mustard5> the instructions show you how to add marillat
[03:01] <zucchi3> I get this message anytime I try to install a program using apt-get  ---  E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied )
[03:01] <zucchi3> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:02] <joe__> <deb http://debian.video.free.fr> ?
[03:02] <eyequeue> zucchi3:  are you running as root/sudo?
[03:02] <mustard5> you have synaptic open zucchi3 ?
[03:02] <ThomasM> zucchi3: Required root priv's.
[03:02] <tristanmike> zucchi3, do you have synaptic?
[03:02] <gleesond> I don't understand how to acsess the outside repositorys
[03:02] <jrattner1> gleesond, synaptic or apt-get
[03:02] <zucchi3> ?? I have synaptic, but it's not open
[03:02] <occy> Welp, I reckon it'll be here when I wake up.
[03:02] <occy> later gang
[03:02] <mustard5> run the command as sudo then
[03:02] <tristanmike> curses mustard5! :P
[03:02] <N17R0> rob_p: I know how to add a launcher, but I need the correct parameters or command to put, so proftpd is executed
[03:03] <gleesond> does synaptic have MPlayer?
[03:03] <eyequeue> zucchi3:  what is the commandline you ran?
[03:03] <mustard5> what did I do? :)
[03:03] <jrattner1> gleesond, yes
[03:03] <rob_p> N17R0:  For the command field, put, "sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start".
[03:03] <gleesond> thats the one I dont understanf
[03:03] <gleesond> understand
[03:03] <zucchi3> apt-get install torcs
[03:03] <jrattner1> gleesond, synaptic is under system menu in KDE and gnome
[03:03] <rob_p> N17R0:  ...or whatever works at the command prompt.
[03:03] <eyequeue> zucchi3:  sudo apt-get install torcs
[03:03] <ThomasM> gleesond: It will after you add the proper repositories.
[03:03] <N17R0> rob_p: I have now this command, it seems to work: sudo urxvt -e /etc/init.d/proftpd stop
[03:03] <ScatterBrain> Is Breezy's offical backports up and running yet?
[03:04] <mustard5> ScatterBrain, not that I know of