[22:37] <Fryguy--> alleand: if it isn't in your path, specify a proper relative path to it
[22:38] <beautifulsnow> Mmmm my laptop has a tiny mic, but I use a logitech mic... so how do I turn off the laptop mic? :P
[22:38] <Overand> I'm a fairly experienced ubuntu and *nix user in general, but I'm going to ask a ridiculous question.
[22:38] <__yy> idx: you mean ubuntu isn't recongnizing your NIC?
[22:38]  * jbroome waits eagerly
[22:38] <Overand> Is there a reasonably sane way to migrate a system from 32 bit to 64 bit?
[22:38] <eitreach> gedit crashes as root when I try to open and save files. Segfault. What do I do to fix it?
[22:38] <bpa> Is there a way to execute privileged commands like 'ifconfig' from within a perl script?
[22:38] <jbroome> Overand: backup /home and reload. :)
[22:38] <Fryguy--> Overand: backup /home and reinstall
[22:38] <Overand> (It'd be an ubuntu-server system)
[22:38] <Overand> heh
[22:38] <macrobad> shader: well, pinging accounts for "TX packets" only. It might be so that you have received packets, but they were not processed, e.g. they were not meant for you.
[22:38] <Overand> That's what I figured.
[22:38] <__yy> bpa: run the script as root?
[22:38] <alleand> fryguy--: when i run the file in the teminal i get the error: "you appear to be running x server, please exit X before installing"
[22:38] <KOPRajs> hi there... I've just installed Ubuntu using the Wubi installer but I have a small problem... I need to change the codepage and iocharset of host filesystem mounted in /host... it would be best withou restart but I can't find where to change it even after restart... anyone can help?
[22:38] <Overand> It's actually more going to be a 'ugh, software raid migration? thing.
[22:38] <Mrevox11> Fryguy: I found a backup of the old xorg.conf so how do I replace it over the other one?
[22:39] <Fryguy--> alleand: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[22:39] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: use cp or mv
[22:39] <Mrevox11> cp?
[22:39] <shader> macrobad: so, in that case, what do you think could be preventing me from getting dhcp, or pinging the router?
[22:39] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: yes
[22:39] <Mrevox11> what is that? Copy Paste?
[22:39] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: no, the cp command
[22:39] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: in terminal
[22:39] <amenado> bpa-> i think if your user is allowed to execute specific priviledge command in  sudoers file
[22:39] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: or the mv command
[22:39] <bpa> __yy: I have tried running sudo myscript.pl and it still gives the SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[22:39] <Mrevox11> what do I type.
[22:39] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: or copy/paste between 2 files would work too
[22:39] <ProcrastinatoR> hey all, i have some sound issues tested both with mobo's nvidia sound card and sb audigy soundcard, CD's play ok, sound files play but stop once i move the mouse. and if i use the keyboard to stop the payer(vlc,totem tested) the sound keeps playing. sound preferences thingy oe test the sound ok for the 2nd  sound card (initially not for he onboard sound)
[22:40] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: or a file save as if you are in gedit
[22:40] <matthew__> anyone know what could be stopping me (and root, in fact) for removing what appears to be an empty .gvfs directory in my home folder?
[22:40] <robokop> on my mac i can invert the color output, is there a way i can do that in linux?
[22:40] <bpa> amenado: thanks, I will try that really quick
[22:40] <Resnick> Can anyone tell me how to remove files from the trash can that have root permissions?
[22:40] <__yy> matthew__: no write permissions for the directory maybe
[22:40] <unop> matthew__, how are you attempting to remove it?
[22:40] <Fryguy--> matthew__: gvfsd running
[22:40] <Mrevox11> well couldnt I just copy all of the text out of one file. And delete all the text in the other file and then save it.
[22:40] <Fryguy--> Resnick: use sudo
[22:40] <amenado> bpa-> try  an entry like  username ALL=(root) /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:40] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: why not
[22:40] <matthew__> unop: rm -r, then rm -f
[22:41] <__yy> Resnick: use sudo rm files to remove here
[22:41] <idx> __yy: I'm not sure, all I know that after boot it is almost as if my adapter isn't plugged in.
[22:41] <matthew__> Fryguy--: Shouldn't using sudo get around that if it is running?
[22:41] <linuxkrn> yo everyone, does anyone know how to get dmraid working on a intel moble sata raid 82801 controller?  dmraid reports no disks, but "dmraid -b" shows two drives (raid-0)
[22:41] <Fryguy--> matthew__: no
[22:41] <idx> They might've fixed it by now. But sadly, I can't update without the internet. Or can I?
[22:41] <Gman99999> my microphone doesnt work anymore,  I'm using hardy heron, I've checked the sound levels and nothing appears to be muted
[22:41] <__yy> idx: so it doesn't show up in ifconfig at all?
[22:41] <jm2k> how to i renable my wireless or reinstall drivers?
[22:41] <ikonia> linuxkrn: fakeraid, in my opinion is a very bad idea on linux
[22:41] <idx> Is there a place offline you can get a batch update or something?
[22:41] <unop> matthew__, and the exact error message you get is?
[22:42] <matthew__> Fryguy--: but isn't root the magical override to everything?
[22:42] <amenado> jm2k-> has it worked before?
[22:42] <Fryguy--> matthew__: no
[22:42] <__yy> idx: you can download the ubuntu CD's and use them
[22:42] <matthew__> unop: Permission denied
[22:42] <jm2k> amenado: yes
[22:42] <arooni-mobile> i'm trying to watch a .wmv video from vlc.... but am getting no audio output..... i know this video does have audio output.  i can hear audio elsewhere on my system.  i';m running hardy on a t61 (intel 950 integrated sound)
[22:42] <macrobad> shader: No idea, just guesses. First of all, sometimes, although rarely, ifconfig fails to give you the correct information. In that case it could be obtained from 'ip link show' or directly from /proc. Another thing that could have happened, is a weird firewall rule, if you were playing with it. Finally, you could have had problems either with routing table, or with ip address.
[22:42] <idx> __yy: And they have all the latest updates?
[22:42] <linuxkrn> ikonia: thanks, don't need an opinion about it.  I'm dual booting xp with it so have to use it
[22:42] <jm2k> amenado: ubuntu did an update then it stopped working.
[22:42] <Fryguy--> arooni-mobile: use mplayer
[22:42] <c0mrade> hiya is it possible in apache to specify ServerName mail.* , what I'm trying to achieve is that when you type mail.anydomain.com it opens mail directory?
[22:42] <Gman99999> unop do you know how to troubleshoot a microphone problem in ubuntu hardy heron?
[22:42] <matthew__> Fryguy--: That might be it then, i'll see if gvfs is running
[22:42] <ikonia> !fakeraid | linuxkrn
[22:42] <__yy> idx: a new CD should be pretty close, it might not be bleeding edge though
[22:42] <unop> matthew__,  sudo rm -rf /path/to/.gvfs
[22:42] <amenado> jm2k well, which chip does your nic card have?
[22:42] <ProcrastinatoR> hey all, i have some sound issues tested both with mobo's nvidia sound card and sb audigy soundcard, CD's play ok, sound files play but stop once i move the mouse. and if i use the keyboard to stop the payer(vlc,totem tested) the sound keeps playing. sound preferences thingy oe test the sound ok for the 2nd  sound card (initially not for he onboard sound)???
[22:43] <Resnick> __yy: Fryguy--: I Understoof that much, but what is the location of the trash directory in ubuntu?
[22:43] <Fryguy--> !trash | Resnick
[22:43] <robokop> on my mac i can invert the color output, is there a way i can do that in linux?
[22:43] <Resnick> Fryguy--: Ah ha!
[22:43] <linuxkrn> ikonia: read that howto already, didn't work for me.
[22:43] <goldbond> hey i receiving an error when i try to boot up 'busy box"...."action 0x2 frozen"
[22:43] <unop> Gman99999, not really -- tell everyone what the problem is - maybe someone can relate to your problem
[22:43] <Resnick> Fryguy--: Thank you for that. I am used to MC :)
[22:43] <jm2k> amenado: i see in Hardware drivers its 'Atheros'.
[22:43] <ikonia> linuxkrn: as I said, fakeraid is a very bad idea/technology on linux
[22:43] <goldbond> busy box offers a prompt to debug
[22:43] <Fryguy--> robokop: compiz supporta that, look in compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:43] <matthew__> unop: It seems that gvfs is running, which would appear to be the problem. What is gvfs? And does something bad happen if I kill the process?
[22:43] <jm2k> amenado: dunno if that helps.
[22:43] <goldbond> does anyone know what is going wrong?
[22:44] <dbbolton> How can I disable fade effects in KDE 3 ?
[22:44] <oOoO> .
[22:44] <amenado> jm2k-> you can try to re-enable it again.. what happens when you do an iwconfig ath0 ?
[22:44] <idx> __yy: Well I have 8.04, but you're saying that the lastest iso might be 8.06+updates?
[22:44] <arooni-mobile> Fryguy--, that fixed it; thanks
[22:44] <Gman99999> Hey everyone my microphone no longer works, it was working and then one day it just stopped and I can't seem to find out why, I've checked all the sound levels I am aware of, in hardy heron but nothing seems to work
[22:44] <goldbond> ata2.00: status: {DRDY} is another error i see
[22:44] <idx> 8.04 even
[22:44] <db92> anyone knows of any tricks to lessen the ubuntu boot time? :P
[22:44] <Gman99999> I
[22:44] <shader> macrobad: ok, I repeatedly ran ifconfig for a while, watching the RX byte number. It went up by about 100 or so every few seconds. That doesn't sound very fast, but it does imply some sort of packet reception. Now what?
[22:44] <Flannel> db92: Install bootchart, and find out whats taking so long
[22:44] <ikonia> db92: remove uneeded services, make sure your not depending on any network services, dhcp or wirless for example
[22:44] <jm2k> amenado: iwconfig ath0 = "no such device"
[22:44] <Gman99999> I'm using an hp laptop, it seems alot of problems have been fixed since gutsy
[22:45] <shader> macrobad: I could try fixing the routing tables. How should they be set up?
[22:45] <Mrevox11> ok fryguy. I did that. I replaced with the back up. It looks just as it did before I edited it. But I restarted X and now IM still not able to change my Resolution or enable Advanced Effects....Help?
[22:45] <temoto-mobi> Should gnome-do be run as daemon?
[22:45] <goldbond> ata4.00: revalidation failed is another error that has just showed up
[22:45] <unop> matthew__, i believe it is the GNOME Virtual File System daemon - you should ideally remove .gvfs when you are logged off
[22:45] <macrobad> shader: do 'route -n' and check that it looks ok.
[22:45] <__yy> idx: That should work... but I've never tried updating via CD, so I really don't know anything about it beyond that it should be possible.
[22:46] <shader> macrobad: well, what does "ok" look like?
[22:46] <jm2k> iwconfig = "no wireless extensions" for lo, eth0, irda0
[22:46] <psych> is there a way to disable Auto-open feature for audio cds and etc??
[22:46] <Gman99999> is anyone here a microphone expert on here?
[22:46] <unop> Gman99999, have you tried adjusting settings in the gnome-sound-properties dialog ?
[22:46] <jeff__> hello. I've got an old pentium 3, 450mhz computer with 384 mb of ram upon which I must rely due to a laptop death. I'm currently running an old (5.04) distro of ubuntu and I'm curious how I'd fare with a more current version.
[22:46] <Overand> Gman99999: define 'microphone expert'
[22:47] <Gman99999> yes I have tried that
[22:47] <Fryguy--> jeff__: pretty similarly
[22:47] <amenado> jm2k-> can you peek around /lib/firmware/`uname -r` for the drivers for it? or maybe in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/wireless/
[22:47] <ikonia> jeff__: fine, just disable "cool" graphics
[22:47] <Mrevox11> Fryguy did you read my above ?
[22:47] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: nope
[22:47] <__yy> jeff__: A new version of ubuntu should be fine as long as you don't run flashy stuff.
[22:47] <Overand> Gman99999: I could recommend a phantom-powered large diaphragm condenser mic with a pop filter and a preamp with a nice peak limiter, but that's outside the scope of #ubuntu
[22:47] <jeff__> these are the answers for which I had hoped :)
[22:47] <__yy> jeff__: find a nice lightweight window manager and you should be golden.
[22:47] <macrobad> shader: It should contain at least the following lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25801/
[22:48] <ProcrastinatoR> my sound is buggy, (read previous help req) recent download of ubuntu auto updated 1 hr ago, lost as to how to fix this any suggestions are welcome
[22:48] <leeping2007> Hey there, I'm trying to compile a piece of software and I'm getting the error message: pbeginf.c:(.text+0x31): undefined reference to `iargc_' Does this tell me where in the source code I should look? (I can't see a line number)
[22:48] <unop> jeff__, you might look into running a lightweight window manager like fluxbox or openbox too -- but your mileage may vary
[22:48] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: you can't do advanced effects without compositing afaik, as for change resolution, just use the old xorg.conf you had and you should have the same resolution.  if you don't then i don't know
[22:48] <macrobad> shader: the first one pointing to your local network, and the second one pointing to the default gateway
[22:48] <shader> ok
[22:48] <Mrevox11> I replaced the xorg.conf with a back up. It now looks like it did before I added those lines of text. Now I restarted X and Im still not able to adjust screen resolution or  enable any advanced effects
[22:48] <WebcamWonder> jeff__: look at xfce - xubuntu
[22:48] <unop> leeping2007, is that the only error you get?
[22:48] <__yy> leeping2007: that's a linker error, not a compile error. The code compiled fine, now it's having trouble linking the compiled bits together.
[22:48] <unop> leeping2007, usually you have to put the error into some kind of context
[22:49] <ericpersson> IndyGunFreak: have you seend the do-release-upgrade available from gutsy and above?
[22:49] <leeping2007> unop: I'll pastebin it, thanks :) one moment
[22:49] <ericpersson> IndyGunFreak: mentioned on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[22:49] <beautifulsnow> Mmmm my laptop has a tiny mic, but I use a logitech mic... so how do I turn off the laptop mic? all i can record is static which isnt pretty :P
[22:49] <psych> is there a way to disable Auto-open feature for audio cds and etc??
[22:49] <macrobad> shader: if you don't go to internet, the first one should be enough
[22:49] <ericpersson> IndyGunFreak: seems to ease the upgrading.. might be worth a shot next time.. ;)
[22:49] <leeping2007> __yy, Does that mean I should include another -L flag?
[22:49] <jeff__> I confess that I'm unfamiliar with linux in general and window managers in particular, but I'll start reading. thanks for all the replies
[22:49] <beautifulsnow> yes psych  go to your file manager preferences (go to your home folder, then to preferences)
[22:49] <jm2k> amenado: what is the command to peek around /lib/firmware?
[22:49] <goldbond> how can i debug my ubuntu installation when it never escapes the boot screen with the orange bar moving back and forth?
[22:49] <Fryguy--> jm2k: cd and ls
[22:50] <jeff__> does xubuntu use a different window manager than ubuntu?
[22:50] <leeping2007> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25802/
[22:50] <__yy> leeping2007: possibly
[22:50] <Fryguy--> jeff__: yes
[22:50] <goldbond> is there a way to see a verbrose boot sequence?
[22:50] <Mrevox11> Fryguy any help?
[22:50] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: no
[22:50] <trashguy> it uses
[22:50] <amenado> jm2k-> yes..cd and ls
[22:50] <trashguy> XFCE
[22:50] <Flannel> goldbond: at grub, hit escape, highlight the choce, hit 'e', remove quiet and splash, then boot that edited line,.
[22:50] <Mrevox11> Ok......I guess ill just figure this one out myself.
[22:50] <goldbond> thanks
[22:50] <jeff__> ok. I'll spare you more questions and start my own research
[22:50] <Dr_willis> goldbond,  for starters at the grub menus, edit the boot line and append 'nofb nosplash'  to get rid  of the splash screen.
[22:50] <jeff__> appreciate the help
[22:50] <Fryguy--> jeff__: it uses XFCE as it's desktop environment, i don't know what the default window manager is for XFCE off the top of my head, google can probably tell you
[22:51] <jeff__> thanks Fryguy. I'm on it :)
[22:51] <Dr_willis> goldbond,  or yea.. remove 'splash and quiet' if its there. :)  nofb is optinal. but i use it all the time also.
[22:51] <amenado> jm2k-> also confirm your chip via   sudo lshw -C network
[22:51] <unop> leeping2007, and that's all the output you have? are you sure?
[22:51] <__yy> Fryguy--: I though XFCE _was_ a window manager?
[22:51] <macrobad> shader: so, do you have that line, and does it correlate to the ifconfig output?
[22:51] <glitsj16> psych: check the media tab in your nautilus preferences for those ..
[22:51] <Fryguy--> __yy: no
[22:51] <Dr_willis> !info xfce
[22:51] <VelcroMan> Hi, i wanted to remove a folder with mp3's from my cellphone memorycard. So, because i'm used to windows, i clicked the folder and pressed delete. The folder dissappeared, but no space was freed.
[22:51] <unop> __yy, it's a desktop environment
[22:51] <Chaotic_Descent> ok, so why is this not working? sudo cp -r ./olduser/ ./newuser/
[22:52] <Chaotic_Descent> it just hangs there... it's not copying files any more.
[22:52] <__yy> ahh, ok. Bigger package.
[22:52] <leeping2007> unop, I'm fairly positive.  There are many warnings that come before that, but no errors.. I searched for the strings "error", "undefined", and "not found"
[22:52] <Dr_willis> VelcroMan,  its in the .trash directory on the card most likely.  *yes its annoying*
[22:52] <psych> glitsj16, yes, beautifulsnow told me before and i just did it. ty both
[22:52] <unop> leeping2007, paste everything you have there -- it's easier to put things into context
[22:52] <snmpee> version: ubuntu server, I want to properly change my hostname. I had a problem using sudo the last time I tried this, I don't want to mess anything up again. What's the proper way?
[22:52] <macrobad> shader: just for a case, you may also wish to do 'ping -I eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>', or whatever your gateway is. This way, you'll ensure that the packets are send via the right interface.
[22:52] <Chaotic_Descent> also, it still copied the folder so now I have /home/newuser/olduser/ instead of the contents of olduser in newuser..
[22:52] <leeping2007> unop, sure thing, but it's a very long file :)
[22:52] <ProcrastinatoR> hey all, i have some sound issues tested both with mobo's nvidia sound card and sb audigy soundcard, CD's play ok, sound files play but stop once i move the mouse. and if i use the keyboard to stop the payer(vlc,totem tested) the sound keeps playing. sound preferences thingy oe test the sound ok for the 2nd  sound card (initially not for he onboard sound)?? unsure as how to further troubleshoot this  any suggestions are welcome!!!???!!!
[22:52] <Fryguy--> __yy: straight from xfce page: Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for various *NIX systems. Designed for productivity, it loads and executes applications fast, while conserving system resources
[22:53] <__yy> Fryguy--: indeed, my mistake.
[22:53] <jm2k> amenado: FYI, it is a Atheros AR5212 802.11abg NIC.
[22:53] <snmpee> ubuntu server, I want to properly change my hostname. I had a problem using sudo the last time I tried this, I don't want to mess anything up again. What's the proper way?
[22:53] <Chaotic_Descent> how do I copy the contents of a folder instead of the folder itself?
[22:53] <Dr_willis> !hostname | snmpee
[22:53] <Fryguy--> __yy: although it looks like the window manager is ALSO called xfce, so we are both right
[22:53] <__yy> Chaotic_Descent: cp -R folder/*
[22:53] <VelcroMan> Dr_willis: There are no .trash directory :/ But now the appeared a folder called PHONE_CARD_, and now i don't have permissions to open the PHONE_CARD folder
[22:53] <goldbond> Chaotic_Descent: /*
[22:53] <unop> Chaotic_Descent,  sudo cp -Rv olduser newuser
[22:53] <leeping2007> unop, I pasted the entire thing onto there
[22:53] <Fryguy--> snmpee: /etc/hostname
[22:54] <unop> leeping2007, onto where?
[22:54] <Dr_willis> snmpee,  use hostname command, AND edit the /etc/hosts file.. keep a root shell open , and TEST that sudo works in another shell.. befor you close out all the root shells. :)
[22:54] <leeping2007> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25803/
[22:54] <leeping2007> heh, forgot the link :)
[22:54] <Mrevox11> Can anyone point me in the right direction to get my screen resolution back to 1280x800 ?
[22:54] <Dr_willis> VelcroMan,  double check for any .Trash or .trash dirs.. ive seen them befor on my thumbdrives. and so forth. No idea on the PhoneCard Directory
[22:54] <Overand> Mrevox11: System - Preferences - Screen Resolution
[22:55] <Fryguy--> __yy: actually it's called xfwm, i just went into their svn repository and checked
[22:55] <amenado> jm2k-> those uses madwifi
[22:55] <Mrevox11> It only lets me choose 800x600
[22:55] <__yy> leeping2007: dear god, 40k lines of warnings!!
[22:55] <Mrevox11> it wont let me choose anything else.
[22:55] <Chaotic_Descent> ok, /* thanks.
[22:55] <Kovert> running ubuntu in terminal mode need some software to limit the desktops for certain users
[22:55] <Overand> Mrevox11: DId you make remove the restricted drivers by any chance, or make some other change?
[22:55] <leeping2007> __yy, isn't it common for a compile log to be full of warnings?
[22:55] <Kovert> Sebyon didnt cut iot
[22:55] <IndyGunFreak> ericpersson: glad it all worked out for you....
[22:55] <sensae> Using the brightness controls on my laptop they are way too sensitive - at full brightness, I press down twice and I'm at lowest brightness
[22:55] <Dr_willis> Kovert,  what kind of limits?
[22:55] <leeping2007> Maybe not this full of warnings... =/
[22:55] <jm2k> amenado: not sure what you mean.
[22:55] <Chaotic_Descent> how do I learn this stuff without getting totally lost in an unending, directionless sea of information?
[22:56] <Mrevox11> I followed some instruction from fryguy to help me get compiz fuzion working. I tried his advice and it left my computer in this state.
[22:56] <__yy> leeping2007: I'm used to maybe 10 lines of warnings... at most.
[22:56] <Fryguy--> Kovert: please elaborate
[22:56] <snmpee> is there a bash GUI for network configuration ?
[22:56] <shader> macrobad: sorry I took so long. route doesn't always listen to me :) Anyway, the routing table now looks like that. I'll try the ping -I eth0 next
[22:56] <Kovert> Dr_willis: to not allow them certian app or make changes or write to disk
[22:56] <sensae> How do I make the brightness control less sensitive?
[22:56] <Fryguy--> snmpee: bash gui?  you mean cli?  /etc/network/interfaces
[22:56] <__yy> leeping2007: how big is this package you're compiling?
[22:56] <Chaotic_Descent> other than coming here and asking specific questions and having people tell me exactly what to do? :S is there any middle-ground?
[22:56] <amenado> jm2k look for madwifi includes drivers and utilities for atheros chips
[22:56] <leeping2007> gah! so maybe I'm doing something seriously wrong here ...
[22:56] <goldbond> Dr_willis: grub does not save my changes and i still see the splash screen after i make the changes
[22:57] <leeping2007> the source directory is about 164M
[22:57] <Overand> Fryguy--: want to follow up with Mrevox11 there?
[22:57] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:57] <Overand> I'm not fantastic at xorg stuff.
[22:57] <Mrevox11> I asked him and he simply told me no.
[22:57] <amenado> jm2k-> they might be there already...look in  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[22:57] <goldbond> Dr_willis: do you know what i am doing wrong?
[22:57] <takamarou> Hi, I just installed an Nvidia e-GeForce FX 5200, and I'm having trouble getting it to load the nvidia drivers.  Right now I'm running in low graphics mode.  Can anyone help?
[22:57] <Dr_willis> Kovert,  Hmm.. Other then putting the apps in  a specif dir/path and locking down the users path.. not sure how to do that properly. There may be some more advanced stuff i have never used that can do that.  -  If you  dont want the users to alter their own settings, I know kde has a koisk mode. not sure about gnome.
[22:57] <Fryguy--> Overand: i've already helped him out as much as I can. he either hasn't loaded back the xorg.conf he had when he started, or he did something else along the way.  I don't know anything about xorg either. i don't use it
[22:58] <Overand> Mrevox11: It sounds like fryguy had you enable the 'restricted drivers' - yoyu might just want to try disabling those for now.
[22:58] <amenado> jm2k look for drivers that start with ath_
[22:58] <Fryguy--> Overand: no
[22:58] <Dr_willis> goldbond,  e for edit, make changes.. hit enter, b to boot...  is about all one does.. i belive...
[22:58] <__yy> leeping2007: ok, so quite large... my guess, (and it's just a guess) is that you're using a different compiler than the program was developed with.
[22:58] <IndyGunFreak> takamarou: i had a fx5500 that ran perfectly, did you enable the restricted driver?
[22:58] <Fryguy--> Overand: he already had fglrx, i just had him add option composite, and fglrx doesn't support it
[22:58] <glitsj16> Chaotic_Descent: try starting with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal to get the basics
[22:58] <Kovert> oik thanks dr willis
[22:58] <shader> macrobad: ok, I tried ping -I, and the gw is still Host Unreachable
[22:58] <Dr_willis> goldbond,  the chang4es will not get 'saved' its a one time edit.
[22:58] <Kovert> Fryguy--: any ideas
[22:58] <leeping2007> __yy, I'll check that.  I might have to use ifort instead of gfortran... thank you
[22:58] <Overand> ah hm.
[22:58] <unop> ChaosTheory_, introduce some verbosity into your commands .. that means knowing how to do it .. e.g. for cp  -v sets this, this way the command is telling you what it is doing at each step along the way - that helps -- the rest is knowing from experience, what the pitfalls are and when to avoid them
[22:58] <takamarou> IndygunFreak, yeah.  I did.  I've been working on this card for two days now.  Just setting up the ubuntu drivers isn't working.
[22:58] <Mrevox11> No I had restricted drivers enabled to begin with. He had me add some line about composite something or other into my xorg.conf
[22:59] <unop> leeping2007, what is the name of the app you are building?
[22:59] <ProcrastinatoR> Mrevox11:  have you changed your xorg.conf file?
[22:59] <Overand> Mrevox11: just a moment.
[22:59] <Mrevox11> It didnt work. So I restored xorg.conf from a back up that I had. And now its stuck like this.
[22:59] <Fryguy--> Kovert: any ideas for what? you need to use my name if you want me to see text. don't use my name sometimes and then not other times
[22:59] <goldbond> Dr_willis: okay. but, when i remove quiet and add nosplash, i still see the same boot splash and cannot debug what is going wrong
[22:59] <IndyGunFreak> takamarou: what do you mean by not working, have you looked in nvidia-settings?
[22:59] <Overand> Mrevox11: you mght want to let ubunt reconfigure X
[22:59] <leeping2007> unop, it's called NWchem, it's a quantum chemistry package
[22:59] <Chaotic_Descent> hrm. thanks.
[22:59] <Mrevox11> How so?
[22:59] <Fryguy--> Mrevox11: is the backup you are using the same as what you pastebin'd a while ago
[22:59] <Overand> Mrevox11: just a moment
[22:59] <Kovert> Fryguy--: I need an applicatyion like seybon that will limit what a user can do in a terminal install of ubuntu
[22:59] <takamarou> IndyGunFreak, I have tried using nvidia-settings, but it gives me an error saying that I'm not using the nvidia X drivers and to use nvidia-xconfig.  After doing that and rebooting X, I still get the error.
[22:59] <Mrevox11> It was the same config. I just removed those few lines you told me to add.
[23:00] <macrobad> shader: try running 'sudo tcpdump -i eth0' at the same time, so that we can verify you're actually sending the packets.
[23:00] <Dr_willis> goldbond,  try 'nofb nosplash noquiet'   perhaps.
[23:00] <unop> leeping2007, and you are following instructions from some authoritative source i assume?
[23:00] <Overand> Mrevox11: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:00] <Fryguy--> Kovert: no idea
[23:00] <jm2k> amenado: only see 'at__' drivers. possibly those?
[23:00] <shader> macrobad: ok
[23:00] <macrobad> shader: tcpdump would require you to press Ctrl-C when you're done.
[23:00] <Kovert> Fryguy--: thanks anyway
[23:00] <IndyGunFreak> takamarou: not really sure, like i said, fx5500 ran almost perfectly out fo the box, dual screens and all, and it probably uses the same driver as the fx5200
[23:00] <goldbond> Dr_willis: i used control alt f1 and now i see errors ata.100 revalidation failed
[23:01] <Kovert> Dr_willis: keosk on kde can be used in terminal server
[23:01] <takamarou> IndyGunFreak, ok, thanks anyways.
[23:01] <Fryguy--> goldbond: potentially hardware failure
[23:01] <goldbond> Dr_willis: is that all the information i can expect?
[23:01] <joey__> whats the thing called that shows cpu eth0 mem info on desktop ?
[23:01] <leeping2007> unop, I am, but I think I may have found one problem... perhaps I shouldn't be using gfortran as a compiler
[23:01] <Fryguy--> joey__: conky
[23:01] <Dr_willis> goldbond,  smart move. :)  that sounds... bad... if you can get to a login: and login, check dmesg output.
[23:01] <IndyGunFreak> takamarou: are you sure you tried running nvidia-settings, while the restricted driver was enabled?
[23:01] <takamarou> IndyGunFreak, yes.
[23:01] <Dr_willis> goldbond,  i would open up the case and check all cables and drives also.. (power off first, of course) :)
[23:02] <goldbond> Dr_willis: will do, thanks
[23:02] <bvwBryan> would anyone have any insight on no "line input" sound recorded/captured?  More specifically, Shoutcast server/DNAS?
[23:02] <joey__> i see on pics that peoples desktops look nice and it looks diff then conky
[23:02] <Fryguy--> joey__: maybe gdesklets or screenlets then
[23:02] <VelcroMan> Dr_willis: There are no .trash dir :/ unless its hidden somehow
[23:02] <clintchance> Has anyone had any success adding the pidgin icon to avant window navigator and having it display status
[23:03] <ProcrastinatoR> help!, i have some sound issues tested both with mobo's nvidia sound card and sb audigy soundcard, CD's play ok, sound files play but stop once i move the mouse. and if i use the keyboard to stop the payer(vlc,totem tested) the sound keeps playing. "sound preferences" control panel test the sound ok(i hear sound and it stops when i click stop) for the 2nd  sound card (initially not for he onboard sound)?? unsure as how to further troubleshoot thi
[23:03] <ProcrastinatoR> s  any suggestions are welcome!!!???!!!
[23:03] <Fryguy--> VelcroMan: files starting with a . are hidden by default
[23:03] <Fryguy--> !trash | VelcroMan
[23:03] <Dr_willis> VelcroMan,  No idea then where they went.
[23:03] <SliMM> hello
[23:03] <Chaotic_Descent> ok... how do I make sure I don't overwrite the user folder? from /home$ sudo cp olduser/* newuser
[23:03] <Fryguy--> SliMM:
[23:03] <Dr_willis> Fryguy--,  hes looking on a removeable sd card.. deleted files.. space waswent freed up.
[23:03] <takamarou> does anyone know much about getting nvidia drivers to work?  I've tried installing them through the ubuntu hardware drivers manager, envy, and installing them by hand (with a guide)..  none of them seem to work.  any help please?
[23:03] <Chaotic_Descent> or do I need like... newuser/ ?...
[23:03] <leeping2007> I'll try with the different compiler.  Thanks everyone :)
[23:03] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, open up the  cp manpage -- and familiarise yourself with it
[23:03] <shader> macrobad: how do you run two processes at once?
[23:03] <SliMM> Fryguy--: well, well, restless
[23:03] <SliMM> :-)
[23:04] <macrobad> shader: do you have one terminal only?
[23:04] <Fryguy--> shader: background one first
[23:04] <Fryguy--> shader: using ctrl-z or &
[23:04] <Dr_willis> VelcroMan,  look for any unusual  directories with . in the name I guess..  Other then that.. im out of ideas.
[23:04] <shader> macrobad: sorry, I have to go
[23:04] <macrobad> shader: Then, there are two options. Either like Fryguy said, or with screen
[23:04] <macrobad> shader: kk. nighty
[23:04] <Fryguy--> shader: or use a terminal multiplexer like screen, or use separate virtual consoles
[23:04] <ernesto> i just updated my ubuntu and it killed my soundsystem, i dont have system sounds, any ideas?
[23:05] <SliMM> I have installed the Colemak layout and the CapsLock doesn't work as expected: not only that it's turned into a backspace, it still works as CapsLock aswell, and it does so for any layout
[23:05] <SliMM> not just Colemak
[23:05] <clintchance> Has anyone had any success adding the pidgin icon to avant window navigator and having it display status
[23:05] <SliMM> so, any time I hit CapsLock, the previous character is deleted and CapsLock is switched on or off accordingly
[23:05] <joey__> hey
[23:06] <SliMM> this seems like an unimportant but nasty bug
[23:06] <joey__> it starts with a g or somthing that shows the info etc
[23:06] <iilh> Jack_Sparrow are you in here?
[23:06] <SliMM> any suggestions regarding this?
[23:06] <Fryguy--> joey__: like i told you already, gdesklets
[23:06] <clintchance> iilh he is not on
[23:07] <macrobad> SLiMM: Are you using Gnome, or what?
[23:07] <Chaotic_Descent> unop: not much in man cp. only thing relevant is SOURCE DEST VS SOURCE DIRECTORY VS DIRECTORY SOURCE... and I don't know... what the difference is, or how you specify which one...
[23:07] <linxeh> Chaotic_Descent: what are you trying to di ?
[23:07] <SliMM> macrobad: I am, yes
[23:07] <linxeh> do
[23:08] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: please stop use caps
[23:08] <clintchance> Anyone know how to make the windows mediaplayer easy access buttons work for amarok?
[23:08] <travis> hello i need some clues
[23:08] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: sorry. the man uses caps.
[23:08] <linxeh> travis: so ask! :)
[23:08] <travis> can anyone help?
[23:08] <Fryguy--> Chaotic_Descent: cp source target
[23:08] <Fryguy--> Chaotic_Descent: pretty simple
[23:08] <Chaotic_Descent> linxeh: I'm guessing there's no danger in overwriting a destination folder then...
[23:08] <Storrgie> I have a dvd playing on my laptop, but after about a minute of me not using it and letting it just play the sound and video starts jittering very badly, HELP!
[23:08] <clintchance> !ask |travis
[23:08] <iilh> clintchange, do you know why the parameter "all_generic_ide" does not work in ubuntu 8.04?
[23:08] <Fryguy--> clintchance: try xev + xmodmap
[23:09] <alleand> fryguy--: im not sure if im going something wrong, but it looks like i need to run the file without having Xserver on. i tryed alt+ctrl+f1 but it still said i had to exit xserver before i could run the installation
[23:09] <travis> lenxeh: i've managed to configure an nvidia geforde pcx 8600 gt 1gb on hardy heron
[23:09] <clintchance> fryguy-- ok will try thanks!
[23:09] <takamarou> I'm having trouble getting the nvidia drivers to work for an e-GeForce FX 5200, can anyone help?
[23:09] <iilh> *clintchance
[23:09] <Fryguy--> alleand: like i told you already, /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[23:09] <ikonia> iilh: it only doesnt work with specific ide drives from what I've read
[23:09] <Fryguy--> alleand: please pay attention
[23:09] <Mrevox11> Overand: I tried every possible thing on that page. Still...no avail.
[23:09] <linxeh> Chaotic_Descent: what are you trying to do?
[23:09] <travis> but i still cant remove a small vertical shadowed line
[23:09] <Chaotic_Descent> why does it still freeze every time I try to copy my user folder?!?!?!
[23:09] <macrobad> SliMM: So, go to System->Preferences->Keyboard, Layouts, Advanced (or Parameters, or Options... I am using non-english version), and fix it.
[23:09] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm trying to copy my old user folder into a new user folder.
[23:10] <travis> wich i managed to remove via de windows nvidia configure program
[23:10] <Fryguy--> Chaotic_Descent: and what command are you using to do that
[23:10] <iilh> ikonia where did you read that? but is a bug? can you give me any link, please..
[23:10] <Chaotic_Descent> good. it's done. nevermind.
[23:10] <ikonia> iilh: I read it on a detailed bug report
[23:10] <__yy> Chaotic_Descent: what do you meen by "freeze", if you mean "sits and shows no output" then that's just what cp does.
[23:10] <Chaotic_Descent> maybe my HD light isn't plugged in. I could have sworn it was.
[23:10] <travis> i tried everithing looked into many many forums and still havent found an answer
[23:10] <LinuxKitten> whar do i find jack-tools
[23:10] <alleand> fryguy--: im sorry, i tryed that, but when i typed that into the terminal xserver shut down...but i wasent able to start the file. was i doing something wrong?
[23:11] <travis> how the **** do i remove that line
[23:11] <Fryguy--> alexanderwz: "wasn't able to start the file" what do you mean
[23:11] <ikonia> travis: there is no need for ****'s
[23:11] <linxeh> Chaotic_Descent: if you are trying to avoid overwriting existing files then you hit a classic - what do you do when youve got two dirs you want to merge
[23:11] <Mrevox11> Anyone? I need help with some video problems
[23:11] <travis> sorry
[23:11] <travis> but i am desperate
[23:11] <ikonia> travis: if you can't say it without swearing - don't say it
[23:11] <Fryguy--> travis: what verical line
[23:11] <Storrgie> I have a dvd playing on my laptop, but after about a minute of me not using it and letting it just play the sound and video starts jittering very badly, HELP!
[23:11] <travis> look
[23:11] <SliMM> macrobad: it's not working
[23:11] <LinuxKitten> whar is the jack server
[23:11] <travis> i ve managed to install the nvidia privative drivers
[23:11] <ikonia> LinuxKitten: it's a sound server
[23:12] <iilh> ikonia ah ok, so it's a bug, and all_generic_ide has been removed, isn't it?? because i'm one of the persons that really need it..
[23:12] <travis> for a geforce 8600 gt 1gb 1278 tv
[23:12] <Fryguy--> LinuxKitten: it's a sound architecutre, somewhat similar to pulseaudio
[23:12] <travis> 128
[23:12] <LinuxKitten> ikonia: how do i activate it to use in rosegarden
[23:12] <iilh> *and has NOT been removed
[23:12] <Chaotic_Descent> sorry I just... can't handle ... complications... failure... of any kind.
[23:12] <travis> but i get a shadowed vertical line of about 10 px on a side of my monitor
[23:12] <ikonia> LinuxKitten: it's a daemon that needs starting, there should be an init script
[23:12] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm good. it's working. no problem. :S
[23:12] <linxeh> Chaotic_Descent: do you want anything in the latest version of your user dir ?
[23:12] <laplacianguy> hello guys
[23:12] <laplacianguy> does anyone of you knows how to determine the age of an installed system?
[23:13] <clintchance> fryguy-- im not sure. Do you have a website link?
[23:13] <travis> whenever something white falls into that line the entire display is shadowed
[23:13] <iilh> **all_generic_ide has NOT been removed, isn't it?
[23:13] <Fryguy--> clintchance: no
[23:13] <ikonia> iilh: I don't think it's been removed
[23:13] <Storrgie> I have a dvd playing on my laptop, but after about a minute of me not using it and letting it just play the sound and video starts jittering very badly, HELP!]
[23:13] <LinuxKitten> i installed jack tools but i can't find it
[23:13] <travis> any idea why this hapend fryguy
[23:13] <linxeh> laplacianguy: you could check the oldest file on the system, or the kernel version (perhaps), or the OS version
[23:13] <ikonia> LinuxKitten: jack tools is not jack
[23:13] <alleand> fryguy--: it looks like i need to run the installation without having x server or any opengl on in the backround...not sure hos to explain it, but...like running the whole system in console mode
[23:13] <travis> any idea why this hapens fryguy?
[23:13] <Chaotic_Descent> huh... cp didn't copy hidden system files...
[23:13] <Fryguy--> travis: no
[23:13] <macrobad> SliMM: It depends on what you call "not working". Have you tried to log out and log in back?
[23:13] <LinuxKitten> how do i get jack
[23:13] <Overand> laplacianguy: look at the creation time for /etc
[23:13] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, man cp -- see what it says about -a
[23:13] <SliMM> macrobad: well, no, I haven't
[23:13] <clintchance> fryguy-- you say waht progs, xev and something else
[23:13] <clintchance> ?
[23:13] <Fryguy--> alleand: so stop your login manager, kill x, and run the script
[23:13] <linuxkrn> is there a way to grab the dmraid source with apt-get?
[23:14] <Fryguy--> clintchance: yes i did
[23:14] <ikonia> LinuxKitten: the package is jackd
[23:14] <macrobad> SliMM: Try it.
[23:14] <laplacianguy> Overand, the folder etc?
[23:14] <ikonia> LinuxKitten: apt-get source
[23:14] <Fryguy--> clintchance: xev and xmodmap
[23:14] <LinuxKitten> kk
[23:14] <linxeh> Chaotic_Descent: cp -R
[23:14] <travis> is it because of the grafics card or because of the monitor?
[23:14] <laplacianguy> linxeh, i don;t keep any old kernel..
[23:14] <ikonia> LinuxKitten: sorry
[23:14] <Fryguy--> travis: hard to say without looking at it
[23:14] <waltons_pacman> question: anyone good with graphic drivers for ubuntu 8.04 hardy? need hlp with a i945GM chipset
[23:14] <Chaotic_Descent> linxeh: no, I did that. that's not the problem.
[23:14] <ikonia> linuxkrn: apt-get source $package
[23:14] <Fryguy--> !anybody | waltons_pacman
[23:14] <travis> mmm
[23:14] <linxeh> Chaotic_Descent: -R will copy hidden files
[23:14] <macrobad> SliMM: In order to apply changes made to keyboard layout you may need to restart X server, that is log out and log in back
[23:14] <linuxkrn> ikonia: thanks
[23:14] <travis> shall i get a capture screen and upload it somewhere?
[23:14] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: the intel driver with xorg is fine for that card
[23:15] <Fryguy--> travis: if you want
[23:15] <Storrgie> I have a dvd playing on my laptop, but after about a minute of me not using it and letting it just play the sound and video starts jittering very badly, HELP!
[23:15] <Chaotic_Descent> unop: it's gibberish to me. I'm guessing I need to use the -a option? to me, archives are things like .rar and .zip.
[23:15] <LinuxKitten> i have jackd
[23:15] <ikonia> LinuxKitten: thats the daemon
[23:15] <travis> has ayone that specific grafics card installed ?
[23:15] <alleand> fryguy--: how do i run the script after using the code you gave me?
[23:15] <linxeh> Chaotic_Descent: you should read up on what archive means in unix land
[23:15] <LinuxKitten> so what's a client
[23:15] <Fryguy--> Chaotic_Descent: -a maintains file permissions as well as being recursive
[23:15] <ikonia> LinuxKitten: rosegarden
[23:15] <Fryguy--> alleand: same way you run any application...
[23:15] <Chaotic_Descent> ... oh... you mean -R isn't the same as -r? ... :S man didn't tell me that.
[23:15] <waltons_pacman> ikonia: but im only getting about 666fps with glxgears (as a baseline) and it seems slow to me when doing anything high end.
[23:15] <SliMM> macrobad: ok
[23:15] <Fryguy--> alleand: if it isn't in your path, you specify a relative path that will get you to the file
[23:15] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, if you did  cp oldir/* newdir/  -- then hidden files aren't copied as * globs all non-hidden files by default -- which is why you use -R without any globs.   cp -Rv oldir newdir
[23:16] <Overand> laplacianguy: look at the creation time for /etc
[23:16] <Overand> laplacianguy: yes
[23:16] <IndyGunFreak> Chaotic_Descent: everything is chase sensitive in cli
[23:16] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: it's an onboard video card
[23:16] <Overand> (sorry to repeat)
[23:16] <Storrgie> I have a dvd playing on my laptop, but after about a minute of me not using it and letting it just play the sound and video starts jittering very badly, HELP!
[23:16] <linxeh> Chaotic_Descent: an archive is just an exact replica of something. a .zip, .tar, .7z or whatever is an archive format that contains copies of things
[23:16] <Fryguy--> unop: pretty sure cp -a is what he needs
[23:16] <LinuxKitten> ikonia: it sez the jack server is down
[23:16] <ikonia> LinuxKitten: is jackd running ?
[23:16] <Fryguy--> unop: i don't have gnu cp on this machine so i can't look it up
[23:16] <LinuxKitten> ikonia: how do i get it up
[23:16] <unop> Fryguy--, -a implies -R
[23:16] <laplacianguy> i just have the modification time... not the creation..
[23:16] <spiderfire> is there a utility for safe cleaning?
[23:16] <alleand> fryguy--: okey, ill try it. tnx alot for the help
[23:16] <LinuxKitten> ikonia: how do i run it
[23:17] <ikonia> LinuxKitten: start it, there should be an init script as I said first time
[23:17] <Fryguy--> LinuxKitten: you isntall it, and use the init.d script if necessary
[23:17] <Chaotic_Descent> I know things are case sensitive, but the man doesn't actually say -r gives different results than -R. they're both listed together, with no description saying otherwise.
[23:17] <Reformer81> How do I install something with Wine and make it available to all local users?
[23:17] <Storrgie> I have a dvd playing on my laptop, but after about a minute of me not using it and letting it just play the sound and video starts jittering very badly, HELP!
[23:17] <waltons_pacman> ikonia: i know, my full question is stated in this forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5339711#post5339711
[23:17] <waltons_pacman> there are a few problems i have with it and Wine/WoW combination.
[23:17] <japheth> spiderfire: what do you mean by "safe cleaning"?
[23:17] <Dalila> http://globalnerdy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/mac_unix_vista.jpg
[23:17] <__yy> Chaotic_Descent: -R and -r should do the same thing with cp
[23:18] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, -R and -r are the same thing
[23:18] <jm2k> amenado: i found the "ath_" drivers.
[23:18] <spiderfire> japheth: for system cleanup
[23:18] <Fryguy--> unop: pretty sure it implies -r plus a couple of other things
[23:18] <linuxkrn> ikonia: do I need something other than dpkg-dev to compile the package?
[23:18] <Mrevox12> Ok I am back. Perhaps you can help me with this one fry guy. I restarted my pc and hit Esc to enter the Grub menu and went through the recovery prompts and rebuilt my X config. Now im back to my normal resolution. But I am still not able to apply Advanced Graphics settings. Any help?
[23:18] <iilh> ikonia, yeah it's pretty impossible it has been removed.. or better, if ubuntu wants to be the distro with  the best hardware support ever, it must have that parameter.. ok, so i hope it will be fixed for the next release, or sooner.. thanks for support
[23:18] <ikonia> linuxkrn: all the deps
[23:18]  * DIL unop knows!
[23:18] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: force it to use the intel driver
[23:18] <Fryguy--> Mrevox12: look at how to get compositing working with fglrx on the wiki, pretty sure there's a pretty detailed article about how to do it
[23:19] <Mrevox12> Im not talking about compiz fuzion.
[23:19]  * Chaotic_Descent sighs, and apparently never understands anything.
[23:19] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: thats not an unreasonable framesper second count for an onboard card
[23:19] <Fryguy--> Mrevox12: i don't use ati, fglrx, or compositing, so i don't know how to help you (which i believe i've said to you a few times now..)
[23:19] <linxeh> on some OS cp -r and cp -R do different things
[23:19] <iilh> "the distro with  the best hardware support ever" Lol
[23:19] <iilh> :)
[23:19] <linuxkrn> ikonia: getting configure error that C compiler can't create executables...  that a livecd problem or a missing package. (sorry new to ubuntu but not building apps)
[23:19] <macrobad> laplacianguy: use 'stat /etc' to find out all the times
[23:19] <Mrevox12> Ahh. well thanks for the fore warning. we dont want any help with something no one knows about do we?
[23:20] <ikonia> linuxkrn: install gcc or the build-essential package
[23:20] <waltons_pacman> ikonia: any way you can think of off the top of your head to speed it up a bit? *dont say overclock*
[23:20] <iilh> i go, goodbye
[23:20] <leeping2007> __yy, if you're still here -- I think the problem was that I was using the wrong compiler.  Using ifort gives me less warnings.  Thanks
[23:20] <christos> hello there
[23:20] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: force it to use the "intel" driver is a good start
[23:20] <Chaotic_Descent> ... I really... can't do anything right... ever. because cp -Rv olduser newuser is doing the same crap of making newuser/olduser/ instead...
[23:20] <__yy> leeping2007: awesome, I hope it works.
[23:20] <iilh> bye all
[23:20] <LinuxKitten> AGHHH
[23:20] <laplacianguy> thanks guys
[23:20] <LinuxKitten> #%^
[23:20] <waltons_pacman> ikonia: NOTE----the graphics dont render correctly while in WoW through Winefix. chars turn white when going inside, and minimap goes white too. i know the minimap is a known bug with ATI drivers, but i dont think im running them.
[23:20] <linxeh> unop: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-0210/6m6nb7m6p?a=view
[23:21] <linuxkrn> ikonia: gcc was installed, but the build-essenctial package fixed it
[23:21] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: your running intel - nothign to do with ati
[23:21] <waltons_pacman> ikonia: how would i go about doing that?
[23:21] <waltons_pacman> thats what i said.
[23:21] <christos> in need flash in my browser who i do this im a new user of lInux i need help
[23:21] <IndyGunFreak> jm2k: did you get atheros working
[23:22] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: in the device section where your video card is defined in /etc/X11/xorg.conf add Driver "Intel"
[23:22] <Chaotic_Descent> not only can I not understand for myself what to do correctly, I can't get the correct steps either..
[23:22] <Kovert> christos: use your p[ackage manager
[23:22] <unop> linxeh, why are you showing me a solaris manpage?
[23:22] <travis> Fryguy: i really need to solve this out. Can i give you any information wich could give you a clue about what's going on with that graphics cardÇ?
[23:22] <waltons_pacman> ikonia: pls wait for responce. will this require a restart of my X-session?
[23:22] <waltons_pacman> im thinking yes.
[23:22] <spiderfire> christos: it should ask when you visit a page with flash
[23:22] <Fryguy--> travis: i have no idea
[23:22] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: yes it will
[23:23] <travis> ikonia: can you help me?
[23:23] <Chaotic_Descent> why does cp -Rv olduser newuser make newuser/olduser instead of putting olduser/* (INCLUDING HIDDEN SYSTEM FILES) into newuser?
[23:23] <ikonia> travis: with what ?
[23:23] <jm2k> hmm not really, looking at this tutorial: http://www.stchman.com/ath_drv.html  -- but getting error "set KERNELPATH".
[23:23] <travis> ikonia: nvidia geforce 8600
[23:23] <travis> ikonia: i need to finetune it
[23:23] <ikonia> travis: in what way fine tune it ?
[23:23] <Pici> Chaotic_Descent: Are you trying to copy files or move/rename files?
[23:23] <jm2k> How to set KERNELPATH, anyone?
[23:24] <Storrgie> I have a dvd playing on my laptop, but after about a minute of me not using it and letting it just play the sound and video starts jittering very badly, HELP!
[23:24] <Chaotic_Descent> Pici: copy files. yes.
[23:24] <joey__> how do i make conky load with out a shell pomp ?
[23:24] <ikonia> jm2k: for what ?
[23:24] <Dr_willis> export KERNELPATH=Whatever/path/ya/need
[23:24] <Kovert> Storrgie: with all dvd's?
[23:24] <waltons_pacman> is it possible to restart the X-session without rebooting?
[23:24] <Storrgie> Kovert: actually with any media
[23:24] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: ctrl+alt+backsapce
[23:24] <ikonia> space
[23:24] <Chaotic_Descent> Pici: sudo cp -r olduser/* newuser; however, does not copy the hidden system files.
[23:24] <Fryguy--> waltons_pacman: ctrl-alt-backspace
[23:24] <Dr_willis> joey__,  add it to the gnome session manager perhaps? The conky homepage has lots of tips on its ussage with gnome and kde.
[23:24] <afallenhope> Hey I'm trying to install an app using apt-get but everytime I try to install it I get the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25805/
[23:24] <christos> ok  but the ubuntu what type o extesion  has have  (tar,tz,rpm, or yum)
[23:24] <jm2k> ikonia: installing madwifi for Atheros drivers --- error says to set kernelpath,
[23:25] <Kovert> Storrgie: how do you kniow it isnt the drive?
[23:25] <travis> ikonia: i am seeing a 10 px vertical shadowed line: everything white that falls into it makes the whole screen shadowed
[23:25] <Starnestommy> christos: .deb
[23:25] <Storrgie> Kovert: when i leave the machine alone for a little bit, it seems to want to go into a sleeping mode
[23:25] <gnomefreak> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart :(
[23:25] <unop> Chaotic_Descent,  cp -r olduser/* newuser   and   cp -r olduser newuser  # do not do the same thing
[23:25] <Pici> Chaotic_Descent: do cp -r olduser newuser
[23:25] <TheStef> xdosemu worked with my application in 7.10 but the application doesnt start anymore after the update, does anyone have a solution?
[23:25] <Starnestommy> christos: if there's no .deb, look for a .tar, .tar.gz, or .tar.bz2
[23:25] <Kovert> Storrgie: so set the power management
[23:25] <ikonia> travis: never seen that before
[23:25] <travis> well
[23:26] <christos> ok taz.tz is ok
[23:26] <Chaotic_Descent> Pici: no. that creates newuser/olduser which is not what I want.
[23:26] <ernesto> i have a problem, i have no .asoundrc file, how do i create it?
[23:26] <macrobad> Chaotic_Descent: You'd really better use 'cp -R' instead of 'cp -r'!
[23:26] <yosho> hey, how do I get my menu bars back? The panels with date, menu, volume, etc applets?
[23:26] <christos> ok taz.gz is ok!
[23:26] <Storrgie> Kovert: i dont know what to set in power managerment
[23:26] <Chaotic_Descent> macrobad: ... I thought people just got finished telling me -R was the same as -r.
[23:26] <ProcrastinatoR> how can i et a list of pci devices ?
[23:26] <travis> ikonia: it happened with windows also, but the nvidia configuration tool provided with it perm
[23:26] <amenado> jm2k-> did that work?
[23:26] <Storrgie> Kovert: its not like the screen is dimming or something, its that the machine seems to want to scale down its processing
[23:26] <Kovert> Storrgie: you need to set the standby settings
[23:26] <travis> ikonia: had functions the linux one doesn't have
[23:26] <macrobad> Chaotic_Descent: It depends on your version of cp, actually.
[23:26] <Storrgie> Kovert: where would that be?
[23:26] <Fryguy--> !resetpanel | yosho
[23:27] <mmmiiikkkeee> I am about to order one of the dell xps M1330 laptops... anyone know if the "intel X3100" graphic card is good enough for compiz, or if it works well with compiz... vs the nvidia card?
[23:27] <travis> ikonia: wich helped me to finetune it first tiime
[23:27] <ikonia> travis: nvidia-settings
[23:27] <travis> ikonia: i know
[23:27] <travis> ikonia: im using it but it has fewer op'tions
[23:27] <waltons_pacman> ikona: didnt seem to affect, still running around 650 to 700 fps with glxgears.
[23:27] <Kovert> Storrgie: in the system setting but to be more specific I dotn knopw
[23:27] <jm2k> amenado: the tutorial ? nope, trying to fix error "Makefile.inc:91: *** KERNELCONF: /usr/src/madwifi-0.9.4/.config does not exist.."
[23:27] <waltons_pacman> ikona:i know this is a bad benchmark
[23:27] <ikonia> travis: it's a closed source driver it has limitations
[23:27] <travis> ikonia: i cant' "move" the screen disklplay vertically nor horizontally
[23:28] <waltons_pacman> ikona: going to go test in game changes. thanks for the time
[23:28] <TheStef> i have a problem with xdosemu after the upgrade to version 8.04, xdosemu starts but doest run my application
[23:28] <travis> ikonia: is there any tool that provides that function?
[23:28] <|Zippo|> TheStef: the problem with LOWRAM?
[23:28] <macrobad> mmmiiikkkeee: I have intel x3100, and it works nicely with compiz, although sometimes, really rarely, there are artifacts.
[23:28] <ernesto> i have a problem, i have no .asoundrc file, how do i create it?
[23:28] <ikonia> travis: not that I'm aware of, x/y axis can be set with xorg config file though
[23:28] <TheStef> @zippo nope
[23:28] <Storrgie> Kovert: i dont know if thats my issue, i dunno if i have ever set anything like that
[23:28] <travis> ikonia: how?
[23:28] <TheStef> i applied the workaround
[23:28] <TheStef> xdosemu starts
[23:28] <ikonia> travis: putting values in the display section
[23:28] <clintchance> Who knows how to add the pidgin icon to avant and have it show status
[23:28] <phish> How can i go to "System > Preferences > Font" from the terminal? :)
[23:28] <afallenhope> Hey I'm trying to install an app using apt-get but everytime I try to install it I get the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25805/
[23:29] <TheStef> but my administration software doesnt
[23:29] <Kovert> Storrgie: no time to learn but the present
[23:29] <MrKennie> Can anyone help with kerberos+nfs4?
[23:29] <Storrgie> Kovert: dont think thats the issue though, any other suggestions?
[23:29] <Chaotic_Descent> no... no. I did sudo cp -Rv olduser newuser. capital @#$%ing R and it still doesn't work right.
[23:29] <|Zippo|> someone use bt headset with hardy? it's working but I get no sound on headset
[23:29] <glitsj16> afallenhope: what package are you trying to install exactly ? looking up 'mz' on packages.ubuntu.com lists several different apps .. and for your information, your paste shows you're using sudo command as root, no need for that
[23:29] <japheth> afallenhope: mz is not a package in any of the standard repos.  try apt-get install mzclient
[23:29] <travis> ikonia: thanks i'll look into the xorg man page
[23:29] <BenPa85> hello
[23:29] <Fryguy--> afallenhope: so it's not in the repositories anymore
[23:29] <Averros> Good Day all, I was wondering since I am new to Ubuntu what a good replacement for Windows Live Messenger is?
[23:29] <Chaotic_Descent> if you guys can't figure it out, how am I supposed to figure it out?
[23:29] <Kovert> Storrgie: well it coudl be a time base issue
[23:29] <ikonia> Averros: pidgin
[23:29] <TheStef> @averros Pidgin or amsn
[23:29] <Storrgie> Kovert: please explain
[23:30] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, lordie, that's not how cp works  -- to save you from the hassle of a why-that-is -- just do this.   rsync -av olduser newuser
[23:30] <Swish> should I avoid the cheesy reply and say "he said -good-"
[23:30] <Swish> ? :D
[23:30] <jm2k> amenado: wish there was a deb package :*( gtg but thanx for the help.
[23:30] <Averros> ikonia, Thanks
[23:30] <amenado> jm2k-> see this too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972
[23:30] <MrKennie> or more specifically kerberos. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto isn't goign to plan at all :(
[23:30] <Kovert> Storrgie: have a friend cut a cd with a pure sine wave on it see if the freq changes
[23:30] <Averros> TheStef, Thanks t you as well
[23:30] <BenPa85> I´ve installed the latest kubuntu version with kde 4, after enabling the 3d effects, all windows draw a black line (horizontal) on the desktop, is this normal?
[23:30] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[23:30] <japheth> afallenhope: did that work?
[23:30] <travis> kde sucks!
[23:30] <Storrgie> Kovert: i could do that, but it sounds ridiculous
[23:30] <Storrgie> haha
[23:30] <jm2k> amenado: forum help looks promising, will try it. thanx.
[23:30] <BenPa85> ubottu: thx
[23:31]  * Dr_willis loves it when people Thank the bot.
[23:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:31] <ikonia> travis: try to express yourself a little better
[23:31] <christos> ok now its working Thanxs
[23:31] <afallenhope> mzclient is soemthign totally differnt
[23:31] <Chaotic_Descent> unop: ok, your command is making newuser/olduser... AGAIN...
[23:31] <waltons_pacman> ikona: no change to in game rendering. still white objects while indoors.
[23:32] <__yy> Chaotic_Descent: try this, from your new directory: 'find your/old/dir -maxdepth 1 -exec cp -R {} . \;'
[23:32] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: thats wine
[23:32] <Storrgie> Kovert: lets say that the frequency does change, what would be the next step?
[23:32] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, just delete newuser/olduser and runt he command again
[23:32] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, and don't place any /s after directories
[23:32] <japheth> afallenhope: in that case, perhaps the package you're looking for is no longer in the repos.  try typing apt-get install maz, then press tab a few times to get a list of packages starting with "mz" that you have
[23:32] <japheth> *have available to install
[23:32] <waltons_pacman> ikona: lovely
[23:33] <kheski> Does anyone know the command or link for installing the full KDE environment over my current gnome environment?
[23:33] <__yy> Chaotic_Descent: oops, make that -maxdepth 0, but same command otherwise
[23:33] <MrKennie> over?
[23:33] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: your making some big asks of a low power onboard card
[23:33] <afallenhope> japheth, it's called mz
[23:33] <travis> ikonia: sorry my english sucks
[23:33] <ikonia> travis: don't worry
[23:33] <waltons_pacman> ikonia: any hot-fixes you know of?
[23:33] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: are you now using the "intel" driver ?
[23:33] <Fryguy--> kheski: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=cNz&q=ubuntu+install+kde&btnG=Search
[23:33] <japheth> afallenhope: then you must be missing a package entry in your sources list.  run apt-get update
[23:33] <carnero> exaile eq doesnt work!! what wrong?
[23:33] <mmmiiikkkeee> macrobad: thank you.  does it work good enough to do every thing without looking choppy.  my desktop has a nvidia card that gets a little choppy with wobbly windows and when i spin the 'cube'. I want to intel card since it has open drivers; but i want some thing that works too
[23:34] <mkargar>  I reinstall nvidia driver,but,since of restart system,kdm logen manager not runned and it return to commond line and showing this error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/25804/
[23:34] <kheski> Thanks fryguy, I guess I only installed minimal core.
[23:35] <waltons_pacman> ikona: yes i am, at least i placed Driver "intel" into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[23:35] <waltons_pacman> ikona: under the section where my video card is defined. other than that, i do not know how to check.
[23:35] <Bonejob> Anybody have a second to help with an upgrade problem?
[23:35] <macrobad> kheski: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[23:35] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: seems a reasonable move
[23:35] <kheski> Macrobad, thank you.  I now have it.
[23:35] <carnero> hey thanks 4 the help
[23:35] <waltons_pacman> ikona: i hope so, you sugjested it. ^_^
[23:35] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: you may want to join  #xorg and ask about some of the advanced options for you driver, some specific parameters may assist
[23:35] <macrobad> kheski: Try sudo apt-get -s install kubuntu-desktop first to see what'll happen
[23:35] <Arnos> in the find command the ? matches only 1 character, right?
[23:36] <unop> right
[23:36] <waltons_pacman> ikona: thanks, you the man.
[23:36] <Arnos> thanks
[23:36] <kheski> macrobad, It's too late.  What does -s do?
[23:36] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: or man intel and look at the extra options
[23:36] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: I've had some good results out of it
[23:36] <japheth> Bonejob: perhaps you should just state the problem?
[23:36] <Bonejob> OK so I have a server runing Edgy (6.10) and I wanted to do "Do-Release-Upgrade" but it cant find the packages list in the sources.list (archive is no longer there) what are my options?
[23:36] <macrobad> kheski: it means 'simulate'
[23:36] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: fyi: I'm getting 950/1002 fps out of my card
[23:36] <waltons_pacman> ikona: man-ing the driver name? ill give it a shot
[23:36] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: it works
[23:36] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: all xorg drivers hasve a man page
[23:36] <waltons_pacman> ikona: whats your ram?
[23:37] <ikonia> 2gb
[23:37] <Kovert> Storrgie: then it woudl usually be a bad drive
[23:37] <ikonia> think the card has 128mb
[23:37] <waltons_pacman> ikona: im at 512 >.<
[23:37] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: thats a VERY big ask then
[23:37] <waltons_pacman> ikona: do you know how to find said xorg driver pages?
[23:37] <kheski> What is the most effective thorough and open Software firewall for Ubuntu available?
[23:37] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: man intel
[23:37] <waltons_pacman> ikona: i know. but i really dont want fps, i just want my toon to stop going completely white.
[23:38] <waltons_pacman> ikona: thanks for the consistant help.
[23:38] <Kovert> kheski: I like pfsence
[23:38] <eitreach> gedit crashes as root when I try to open and save files. Segfault. What do I do to fix it?
[23:38] <goldbond> so ubuntu is telling me the partition with the uid that corresponds to / does not exist
[23:38] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: it's a big ask though, you may need more ram to run, OS/wine layer/graphics card/and a game
[23:38] <goldbond> when i try to boot
[23:38] <japheth> Bonejob: see if this helps you:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=818336
[23:38] <Reformer81> How do I install something with Wine and make it available to all local users?
[23:38] <goldbond> but when i load the ubuntu with a livecd, i can read the hard drives without a problem
[23:39] <goldbond> is there a way i can get rid of my fstab and have ubuntu generate a new one?
[23:39] <boozy> Hi does anyone know why i cant access my desktop over gnome shared desktop on vnc viewer but my mac running leopard discovers the service and connects? It's running on the standard vnc port of 5900
[23:39] <kheski> Also I don't know if it's off topic.  But does anyone know how to install Linux on my Netgear router?
[23:39] <boozy> kheski: try dd-wrt
[23:40] <Kovert> kheski: why do you think it supports it?
[23:40] <travis> ikonia: would it be too much help if you indicate wich lines have i got to add to the xorg.conf in order to set the x/y acis on my display?
[23:40] <Fryguy--> kheski: netgear routers haven't been addressed by any of the open source firmwares because they are pretty closed source
[23:40] <travis> axis
[23:40] <thiefness> Excuse me but I just made a clean update from gutsy to hardy and now my conncetion speed is extremely slow, using the rt73usb driver, I tried serialmonkey's fix and to no avail. Can anyone help?
[23:40] <kheski> Fryguy, Kovert, I was unaware.
[23:40] <ikonia> travis: I can't remember them off the top of my head, it's something like xpostition 12000049, yposition<PHONE_NUMBER>
[23:40] <glitsj16> goldbond: before replacing /etc/fstab completely, have you tried finding out the correct UUID (with sudi blkid) for that partiton and adjusting fstab ?
[23:40] <Chaotic_Descent> __yy: ... this is a joke, right? why is it every single command you people give me creates newuser/olduser ?
[23:40] <Kovert> kheski: there is one new one juts announ ced that does
[23:40] <q_a_z_steve> hey, so I've downloaded the nvidia drivers for my card, and when I want to run the file, it says it doesn't have a kernel interface built and exits every time! Help?
[23:40] <boozy> anyone know where to look in the config files for gnome's shared desktop? thanks
[23:41] <glitsj16> goldbond: typo sorry, sudo blkid will give you the UUId
[23:41] <kheski> Kovert, what is that?
[23:41] <Kovert> kheski: google netgear supports dd-wrt
[23:41] <Chaotic_Descent> I guess the complication of copying hidden system files from a user folder is just too advanced for me to be able to pull off.
[23:41] <travis> q_a_z_steve: there are kernel specifric modules for nvidia dirvers synaptic should install them along with the nvidia driver
[23:41] <__yy> Chaotic_Descent: we hate you
[23:41] <macrobad> mmmiiikkkeee: Well, I don't have wobly windows, neither I use a 3D cube. From what I can say, it works flawlessly most of the time, without any glitches whatsoever. However, couple time during the X server startup my screen got covered with rubbish for a second or two, and then fixed itself. I've been using this machine for three weeks now exclusively in Ubuntu. Also, there was another bug in a 3D game, whose name I cannot remember: that time it
[23:41] <Kovert> kheski: go buy a linksys WRT54GL
[23:42] <kheski> I might when I have money.
[23:42] <thiefness> Can anyone help with my wireless dilemma?
[23:42] <Fryguy--> !anyone | thiefness
[23:42] <q_a_z_steve> travis: I've been told in the past to install the nvidia-xconfig and the nvidia X Server Settings... But these aren't working properly...
[23:42] <Kovert> kheski: rob a bank?
[23:42] <thiefness> Fryguy--: i did and no one answered
[23:43] <Onebeer> anyone know why everytime I install a package; I get messages like: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[23:43] <waltons_pacman> Ikonia:  intel supports the {cut out irrelavent} 945GM chipset. however, i did find some random blurb online about mesa not being a hardware render, but a software render. think this could be it?
[23:43] <Fryguy--> thiefness: then nobody knows, or they missed it and you should repeat.  asking metaquestions isn't going to help you at all
[23:43] <Kovert> Onebeer: learn how to authenticate your souces
[23:43] <unop> Chaotic_Descent,  did you use the rsync command?
[23:43] <travis> q_a_z_steve: because you havent got the nvidia kernel module installed
[23:43] <unop> i guess not
[23:43] <Reformer81> Onebeer: It means you're trying to install packages that are not a part of the Ubuntu repositories.  They are essentially third party apps that cannot be verified as safe and virus free.
[23:43] <Fryguy--> waltons_pacman: if you are using mesa, you aren't using the proper drivers
[23:43] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: possibly, hence why I said you'll want more ram
[23:43] <Onebeer> ok thanks
[23:43] <novak> could I install envy on ubuntu 8.04?
[23:44] <Fryguy--> !envy | novak
[23:44] <Chaotic_Descent> unop: uh... no. I don't recall that command.
[23:44] <q_a_z_steve> travis: is that the .run file from nvidia.com?
[23:44] <thiefness> Excuse me but I just made a clean update from gutsy to hardy and now my connection speed is extremely slow, using the rt73usb wireless driver, I tried serialmonkey's fix and to no avail.
[23:44] <mmmiiikkkeee> macrobad: thank you so much!
[23:44] <waltons_pacman> fryguy: thats what ive been basing this entire conversation on, thanks for the backup. :-D
[23:44] <unop> Chaotic_Descent,  rsync -av  olduser newuser
[23:44] <waltons_pacman> ikonia: not worth it, as im buying a new comp soon.
[23:44] <macrobad> mmmiiikkkeee: Not at all!
[23:44] <IMANOOB> how do i get video playback to work?
[23:44] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, sudo as needed
[23:44] <kheski> Kovert, I am looking at the dd-wrt page now, do you mind if I private message?
[23:44] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: ok
[23:44] <travis> q_a_z_steve: the easiest way to do it is using the builtn in installer
[23:44] <Reformer81> !multimedia | IMANOOB
[23:44] <Chaotic_Descent> unop: oh right. that rsync command. yeah. it doesn't work.
[23:44] <novak> Fryguy--: what can I do ?
[23:45] <Reformer81> ooh... that's outdated.
[23:45] <q_a_z_steve> travis: you mean synaptic?
[23:45] <travis> q_a_z_steve: synaptic should find all the dependencies for you
[23:45] <Fryguy--> novak: i already told you i don't know.  why ask me again
[23:45] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, it does not work is vague - what does it not do?
[23:45] <novak> i don't find the envy packs
[23:45] <novak> ok, Fryguy--
[23:45] <IMANOOB> i know that but it gives me an error
[23:45] <novak> sorry
[23:45] <Chaotic_Descent> unop: it creates newuser/olduser, like every command does.
[23:45] <q_a_z_steve> travis: ok well then what can I uninstall and then what should I look for to reinstall?
[23:45] <Reformer81> How do I install something with Wine and make it available to all local users?
[23:45] <waltons_pacman> fryguy: do you know how to get it so i am using the correct drivers?
[23:45] <waltons_pacman> i use a intel i945GM chipset, current driver is the defaulted one supplied by intel.
[23:45] <Luig1> Ok, so I've been spending some more time on Wikipedia with my free time, and I've decided that I want to install *all* possible UTF-8 characters. Yes, every character for every filled codepoint. How do I go about this efficiently?
[23:45] <Fryguy--> waltons_pacman: what card
[23:45] <travis> nvidia in synaptic
[23:45] <Fryguy--> waltons_pacman: intel driver
[23:45] <IMANOOB> !multimedia
[23:45] <novak> i wanto to install my video card by envy
[23:45] <eitreach> gedit crashes as root when I try to open and save files. Segfault. What do I do to fix it?
[23:45] <Fryguy--> waltons_pacman: you are probably using vesa or something
[23:46] <novak> by envy is more easy to install video cards
[23:46] <travis> choose the drivers, then synaptic should point you for all the files needed
[23:46] <ikonia> !envy | novak
[23:46] <q_a_z_steve> travis: btw the sole purpose of this is to have a laptop screen show 1280x800 and an external display show 800x600 with a good refresh rate so as to not wigg out the screen.
[23:46] <Fryguy--> !universe | novak
[23:46] <travis> at least it did for me
[23:46] <macrobad> eitreach: How do roots crash?
[23:46] <IMANOOB> how do i get video playback to work? gives me this error Could not read from resource.
[23:46] <macrobad> :)
[23:46] <travis> so you may need twinview or xinerama also
[23:46] <Fryguy--> IMANOOB: what _specifically_ are you doing
[23:47] <waltons_pacman> fryguy: other than the line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf "driver 'intel' " how do i check to see what i am using? terminal prompt is .....?
[23:47] <travis> i tried that on a presario laptop and i failed to do it properly
[23:47] <Fryguy--> waltons_pacman: /var/log for Xorg.log and make sure it got loaded right
[23:47] <IMANOOB> fryguy i put a movie in and totem come up then give me that error
[23:47] <ikonia> waltons_pacman: you can ee it in your xorg log file
[23:47] <macrobad> eitreach: If i were you, I'd reinstall gedit.
[23:47] <q_a_z_steve> travis: xinerama... to me?
[23:47] <eitreach> macrobad: eh? Root doesn't crash, gedit does, when run as root.
[23:47] <Fryguy--> IMANOOB: try using mplayer
[23:47] <eitreach> macrobad: did that. purged as well.
[23:47] <IMANOOB> fryguy nothing els notices therees a dvd in
[23:47] <travis> q_a_z_steve: i thinks it is a must for dual screen display
[23:47] <acce245> Question:  How do I change Default PCM sample rate to be 48000 rather than 41000, and if it is software based, what piece of software would manage it, and how do I go about it?
[23:47] <Luig1> Also, why doesn't sound work in anything but the 'Sound' preferences menu?
[23:48] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm going to give this a few more minutes, but I've already wasted a colossal amount of time on the simplest of things: trying to change it so my username (which seems to be broadcast on IRC, hurray!)
[23:48] <IMANOOB> fryguy tryed alots of diferant movies
[23:48] <Fryguy--> IMANOOB: well that's probably the problem then lol
[23:48] <thiefness> Excuse me but I just made a clean update from gutsy to hardy and now my connection speed is extremely slow, using the rt73usb wireless driver, I tried serialmonkey's fix and to no avail. Need help, otherwise I will have to go back to dreaded windows :(
[23:48] <Luig1> Well, come to think of it, it doesn't work there either
[23:48] <q_a_z_steve> travis: I had gandr or something?
[23:48] <waltons_pacman> fryguy: inside the /var/log directory, what exactly am i looking for? im still very new at this.
[23:48] <Fryguy--> IMANOOB: make sure permissions are right for reading from the dvd drive, etc
[23:48] <|seb|> where set hostname ?
[23:48] <Fryguy--> waltons_pacman: Xorg.log or Xorg.0.log
[23:48] <Chaotic_Descent> nah. I'm done. I tried the -a option, thinking that would work on hidden system files. no luck.
[23:48] <Fryguy--> |seb|: /etc/hostname
[23:48] <jamus> howdy, what is ubuntu default usb dir(tryng to make bootable usb)
[23:48] <IMANOOB> fryguy how do i do that
[23:48] <travis> q_a_z_steve: xrandr didnt did the trick for me
[23:48] <Fryguy--> |seb|: make sure you edit /etc/hosts to match
[23:48] <Fryguy--> IMANOOB: no idea
[23:48] <q_a_z_steve> travis: so how do I find the nvidia package I need for the GeForce Go 7400
[23:48] <waltons_pacman> fryguy: got them both, which to look at, and what line
[23:49] <Luig1> So, basically, why won't sound work for me? I reinstalled my system recently, and it worked before. It's an Intel board with Intel sound.
[23:49] <Fryguy--> waltons_pacman: first one, pastebin the whole thing
[23:49] <macrobad> eitreach: Does it always crash when you open files? How do you verify it crashes on saving as well, if you cannot open it?
[23:49] <IMANOOB> fryguy lmfao could it be my vidcard im on a laptop
[23:49] <Chaotic_Descent> apparently hidden system files are permanently connected to the folder name they're in.
[23:49] <Fryguy--> IMANOOB: no
[23:49] <travis> q_a_z_steve: uninstall everything and look for it in synaptic
[23:49] <waltons_pacman> fryguy: pastebin?
[23:49] <waltons_pacman> <------Nooblet
[23:49] <|seb|> Fryguy--: thanks
[23:49] <Fryguy--> !pastebin | waltons_pacman
[23:49] <IMANOOB> fryguy ubuntu ultimate 8.04 or we
[23:49] <q_a_z_steve> travis: grandr seems really cool, it's just I don't have a clue how to use it.
[23:49] <eitreach> macrobad: sudo gedit from a terminal, when I open or try to save a file, it crashes with Segfault.
[23:49] <ikonia> IMANOOB: ubuntu ultimate is not an ubuntu product and not supported here
[23:50] <Fryguy--> IMANOOB: this is channel for ubuntu support, not ubuntu ultimate
[23:50] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, no way are you using rsync the right way -- http://pastebin.com/d1e802e7e
[23:50] <travis> q_a_z_steve: the configuration of grandr wont work if you dont have the drivers properly installed first
[23:50] <daemon3> Is there a way to use a special character (heat, etc) by using the charcter code?  Copying doesn't seem to work.
[23:50] <acce245> Can no one help me?
[23:50] <IMANOOB> ohh hum im confused
[23:50] <Fryguy--> !anyone | acce245
[23:50] <ikonia> acce245: what was the question
[23:50] <Lns> HOW can you tell you have to reboot Ubuntu after package upgrades via the shell?
[23:50] <Fryguy--> Lns: shutdown -r now
[23:50] <macrobad> eitreach: So, you mean it ALWAYS crashes whatever you try to open and wherever you try to save?
[23:51] <acce245> The question was: how do I change PCM Sample rate?
[23:51] <Lns> Fryguy--, no - i mean how can you tell if you HAVE to ?
[23:51] <jamus> howdy, what is ubuntu default usb dir(tryng to make bootable usb)
[23:51] <Fryguy--> Lns: you pretty much never do
[23:51] <eitreach> macrobad: yes, as I wrote in my initial question: "gedit crashes as root when I try to open and save files. Segfault. What do I do to fix it?"
[23:51] <Fryguy--> Lns: apt will tell you
[23:51] <Lns> Fryguy--, ala "You must restart your computer" dialog in update mgr
[23:51] <glitsj16> eitrach: have you tried using "gksu gedit" instead of sudo yet ?
[23:51] <q_a_z_steve> travis: PM for a moment? chan is going fast, 800x600 screen not so friendly.
[23:51] <Fryguy--> eitreach: delete any gedit settings in /root/
[23:51] <Lns> Fryguy--, apt will? it hasn't in the past..
[23:51] <Fryguy--> Lns: sure you read it thoroughly?
[23:51] <thiefness> Excuse me but I just made a clean update from gutsy to hardy and now my connection speed is extremely slow, using the rt73usb wireless driver, I tried serialmonkey's script and to no avail. Need help, otherwise I will have to go back to dreaded windows :(
[23:51] <Lns> is there a cmdline option to see via apt?
[23:51] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, to demonstrate it with hidden files - http://pastebin.com/d36def5a8
[23:51] <spiderfire> why is firefox cut and paste very windows ish
[23:51] <waltons_pacman> fryguy: ok i lied, only have Xorg.0.log pastebin comming.
[23:51] <Lns> Fryguy--, yeah..it never tells me after upgrading via apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade
[23:51] <Chaotic_Descent> you never told me to use a / after the username.
[23:52] <Fryguy--> Lns: you can also just look at a list of the packages it updated.  you only need to reboot for kernels and kernel-level drivers
[23:52] <ikonia> thiefness: what speed does iwconfig show you connecting as
[23:52] <acce245> Or do I need to be in a different channel to get answers on PCM?
[23:52] <thiefness> 54 mb/s
[23:52] <Tepps> The GUI doesn't display when I try to boot into Ubuntu (all I get is the CLI (and I have tried "startx", which has given me errors: "Fatal server error: no screens found")).
[23:52] <Lns> Fryguy--, thank you.. was just wondering if there was a file to check or something to see if it's required..
[23:52] <ikonia> acce245: I don't actually know to be honest
[23:52] <Gregmond> lns: if the system wants you to restart it, there will be an icon on the top bar
[23:52] <Fryguy--> Lns: no idea
[23:52] <ikonia> thiefness: ok, so your connected at a good speed,
[23:52] <acce245> I see.
[23:52] <Lns> Gregmond, i mean via the shell
[23:52] <Fryguy--> Gregmond: he's talking about gui, if you paid attention to the whole context of his responses
[23:52] <macrobad> eitreach: Have you tried to open the same file, gedit crashes upon, with another editor? What about using it under a normal account?
[23:53] <Fryguy--> Gregmond: *cli
[23:53] <Lns> I manage 8 servers so its hard to VNC into each one after upgrading via apt/ssh
[23:53] <thiefness> ikonia: originally when i checked the connection information it said 2 mb/s so i did sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M and reconnected, and now it says 54 MB/s but no change in speed
[23:53] <ikonia> Lns: apt-get update && shudown -r now
[23:53] <Lns> ikonia, lol..thx but that's not what i'm looking for
[23:53] <ikonia> Lns: sorry, miss-understood then
[23:53] <waltons_pacman> fryguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25810/
[23:53] <Lns> its ok :)
[23:54] <Aquina> hy!
[23:54] <eitreach> Fryguy--: there are none.
[23:54] <greg_universe> how do you delete a non-empty directory?
[23:54] <__yy> greg_universe: rm -rf dirname
[23:54] <Lns> greg_universe, rm -rf <dirname)
[23:54] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, just use the tab-completion feature of bash -- and it takes (or tries its best to) care of these pitfalls
[23:54] <Fryguy--> eitreach: there is, make sure to look at hidden files
[23:54] <__yy> Chaotic_Descent: you stil having trouble copying?
[23:54] <Chaotic_Descent> unop: yup. the simple step of adding a / after the folder name seems to make rsync work. I don't know if that would work for the cp commands as well, but...
[23:54] <eitreach> Fryguy--: of course I do. There are none. Want a directory listning and screenshot to prove it?
[23:55] <Fryguy--> eitreach: that is unnecessary
[23:55] <goldbond> glitsj16: here is my fstab, do you see what could be wrong? http://dpaste.com/61239
[23:55] <jamus>  what is ubuntu default usb dir ?(tryng to make bootable usb)--- sorry for naggin
[23:55] <q_a_z_steve> travis: should I use envyng?
[23:55] <greg_universe> ty
[23:55] <goldbond> glitsj16: the uids from the command you showed me matched the file
[23:55] <tim167> hi i want to sync Evolution to my google calendar , is that possible ?
[23:55] <glitsj16> goldbond: i'll take a look at that, hang on
[23:55] <filth666__> hey
[23:55] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, no, cp does not work that way -- as the manpage should say .. cp SRC DST .. copies SRC to DST (into DST really unless it already exists)
[23:56] <tim167> i tried installing syncevolution with synaptic but it says "libedataserver not installable"
[23:56] <Storrgie> i had a graphical tool for mounting devices
[23:56] <Storrgie> anyone else use it? i dont remember the name
[23:56] <macrobad> Lns: I believe, it tells you to restart the system only after the kernel is upgraded, and in couple more cases. So, you might try to write a script that would fetch the update list, and perform the update: if it the kernel is upgraded, restart the system.
[23:56] <WebcamWonder> Storrgie: gmount-iso
[23:56] <ubunubi> psydm?
[23:56] <Fryguy--> waltons_pacman: don't know about intel, but something is up with your card/configuration something.  the intel driver isn't getting loaded correctly
[23:56] <Chaotic_Descent> unop: but cp source is different than cp source/*. does that mean cp source/ is treated the same as cp source?
[23:56] <Storrgie> WebcamWonder: it started with system
[23:57] <Fryguy--> waltons_pacman: don't really have anything else to add though, sorry
[23:57] <giacomo_casanova> hey there, anyone available for a little help? (display problems with 8.04 on a g3 iBook)
[23:57] <Fryguy--> Chaotic_Descent: yes
[23:57] <WebcamWonder> Storrgie: mounting local harddisks or iso?
[23:57] <ShadowBelmolve> anyone can help? my ubuntu is mute >.<, i tryed alsa, pulseaudio and jackd, but anyone function, jackd says alsa is in use =/
[23:57] <travis> q_a_z_steve: it should find the appropiate driver for your nvidia videocard
[23:57] <novak> !volume
[23:57] <Lns> macrobad, thank you...It would be nice if apt had that functionality. I bet it does, and i'm just missing something
[23:57] <novak> !sound
[23:57] <waltons_pacman> Fryguy--: awsome man, youve given me a direction! whoop!
[23:57] <waltons_pacman> Fryguy--: ps thanks for the hlp
[23:57] <Storrgie> WebcamWonder: mounting local harddisks
[23:57] <thiefness> Excuse me but I just made a clean update from gutsy to hardy and now my connection speed is extremely slow, using the rt73usb wireless driver, I tried serialmonkey's script and to no avail. Need help, otherwise I will have to go back to dreaded windows, originally when I connected to my network the connection info said 2 mb/s , i ran iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M, then i restarted and it says 54 mb/s but it not any faster
[23:58] <Fryguy--> waltons_pacman: take a look at your bios settings maybe.  Those errors are pretty weird
[23:58] <WebcamWonder> Storrgie: got no clue, sorry
[23:58] <waltons_pacman> Fryguy--: any ideas on where to look next?
[23:58] <goldbond> glitsj16: intrestingly, when i "sudo mount -a" from the live cd with the new fstab nothing happens
[23:58] <waltons_pacman> Fryguy--: awesome, something original.
[23:58] <Chaotic_Descent> ok. well it's working. and that was a nightmare I hope I never have to go through something similar again.
[23:58] <ikonia> thiefness: the sad thing is your using a bad driver/card the reasons could be plenty
[23:58] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, you have to understand what  source/* means -- bash treats this as a wildcard meaning everything in source that is _not hidden_ (by default atleast)
[23:58] <macrobad> Lns: I'd be interested to see how to do it with apt too.
[23:58] <Chaotic_Descent> thanks for the command, unop.
[23:58] <Lns> macrobad,  :)
[23:58] <ShadowBelmolve> anyone can help me?
[23:58] <geoff_> whats up with virtualbox? i installed via apt-get and now if i try to mount an iso the app freezes?
[23:58] <Fryguy--> !anyone | ShadowBelmolve
[23:59] <thiefness> ikonia: it worked fine in gutsy :( i downloaded the update at over 1000 kb/s
[23:59] <Fryguy--> geoff_: #vbox
[23:59] <ikonia> thiefness: your not using gutsy any more
[23:59] <ShadowBelmolve> Fryguy--, i have sayed my quesiton =/
[23:59] <Chaotic_Descent> well, my 15 minutes is up. I gotta go do real life stuff, which should be a refreshing change of pace from this.
[23:59] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, so if you had a command like .  cp source/* dest  -- bash actually will compile a command that says this.   cp source/a source/b source/c source/etc dest
[23:59] <Lns> macrobad, for instance - i just upgraded 7 servers' kernel modules, and wasn't sure if i should reboot - turns out i don't have to, but if i don't have vnc access, it'd be nice to know if i should
[23:59] <eitreach> gedit crashes as root when I try to open and save files. Segfault. What do I do to fix it?
[23:59] <jamus> how do i  make bootable usb in ubuntu (command) ?
[23:59] <Fryguy--> ShadowBelmolve: so repeat the question, not some metaquestion
[23:59] <Miguel> hi