[05:34] <Kilos> o/
[11:18] <MooDoo> howdy all
[11:58] <Kilos> hi MooDoo
[20:42] <belkinsa> PabloRubianes, can you join #belkinsa2.  Kilos is talking to pavlushka, the person who has the LoCo issue?
[20:46] <Kilos> nhaines and other LC members are welcome to join in as well
[20:46] <belkinsa> !lococouncil
[20:46] <belkinsa> ^^
[20:47] <Kilos> svij pull in
[20:47] <wxl> is this a private discussion in that it cannot be held here?
[20:47] <Kilos> its about loco issues wxl
[20:47] <belkinsa> I guess we can have it here.
[20:48] <Kilos> cool i dont mind
[20:48] <belkinsa> I invited him here
[20:49] <belkinsa> pavlushka, are you ready to talk about it?
[20:49] <pleia2> submitted ticket 28223 to get the RSS feeds on loco.ubuntu.com fixed (they haven't updated since May 2015)
[20:50] <pleia2> I've know about this for months, but I kind of wanted to see if anyone else noticed
[20:50] <pleia2> as far as I can tell, no one did, and part of fixing LTP should likely be to remove them
[20:52] <pavlushka> Ready
[20:53] <belkinsa> pavlushka, can you tell us what is the issue again?
[20:54] <pavlushka> Sure, The issue is about getting a membership in my LoCo
[20:55] <pavlushka> and I knocked the Admin at our IRC channel but didnot get any reply.
[20:55] <wxl> it seems to me the LoCo is not very active. would you say that's true, pavlushka ?
[20:56] <belkinsa> It's seems that there are many who are still waiting to be approved and their leader, Russel John, isn't a welcoming person and seems to want to keep the LoCo closed-membership.
[20:56] <wxl> belkinsa: where do you get that impression from, specifically?
[20:56] <belkinsa> Kilos was the one who found out from pavlushka and passed it on to me.
[20:57] <pavlushka> I tried to join the Local translation team but as I've already applied for the BD team, it says you are already waiting for an approval in one of our team.
[20:57] <wxl> Kilos: do you have a record of that conversation?
[20:57] <belkinsa> And how long are you waiting?
[20:57] <Kilos> i have been on that channel since pavlushka applied for membership
[20:58] <wxl> Kilos: so the conversation happened in the channel?
[20:58] <Kilos> i have greeted daily and once russel said hi and no further comment
[20:58] <wxl> so russell has not stated his desire to keep the membership of the loco closed?
[20:59] <Kilos> i have tried to discuss things with him, but get no reply
[20:59] <pavlushka> Not more than a month but I checked that the team is not accepting any member since 2014
[20:59] <pavlushka> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bd/+members#proposed
[20:59] <wxl> it sounds to me like the loco council needs to step in and ask him for his real intentions
[21:00] <Kilos> pavlushka can i ask some personal questions
[21:00] <pavlushka> Sure, go ahead.
[21:00] <Kilos> dont take offence but different parts of the world behave differently
[21:00] <pavlushka> Right.
[21:00] <Kilos> is the problem not perhaps political or religious
[21:01] <Kilos> as a rule ubuntu is for everyone
[21:01] <pavlushka> I dont think so.
[21:01] <Kilos> so locos should be the same
[21:01] <Kilos> i am just trying to find where the problem could be
[21:01] <belkinsa> Their mailing-list is inactive too.  For example, pavlushka's call https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bd/2016-March/011965.html
[21:02] <pavlushka> because normally we are accepting everyone.
[21:02] <Kilos> seems strange to have over 300 members then stop approving new members
[21:02] <wxl> who would be the leader if we did not have russell?
[21:02] <belkinsa> Er https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bd/2016-February/011960.html
[21:04] <pavlushka> Russel is there somewhere, replied a personal mail of me.
[21:04] <wxl> i guess we need to find out what his intentions are
[21:04] <Kilos> wxl that is what we must work out
[21:04] <wxl> it could be that he does intend to control the membership and make it closed
[21:04] <wxl> that would be a case where we need to make a change
[21:04] <wxl> but for the loco to continue it needs some sort of leadership
[21:05] <wxl> it could also be the case that he's busy
[21:05] <wxl> or has moved on to other projects
[21:05] <Kilos> maybe yes
[21:05] <wxl> in which case, too, we still need someone to take the role of leader
[21:06] <belkinsa> pavlushka wants to try to reboot it.  Maybe him?
[21:06] <pavlushka> belkinsa, means?
[21:06] <Kilos> once we know where or why russel has stopped things going then we can sort something out
[21:06] <belkinsa> You want to get your LoCo active again, right?
[21:07] <belkinsa> Kilos, +1
[21:07] <pavlushka> Sure, that will be a joy.
[21:08] <wxl> exactly Kilos
[21:09] <wxl> pavlushka: question is do you want to be the person responsible for maintaining and organizing and administering the team?
[21:10] <pavlushka> wxl: By the way, I am so tensed, being you here, i didn't said Hi to you.
[21:11] <pavlushka> wxl: I am just an Ubuntu user, knows only the basic hacks to maintain my pc, You tell me,if I am eligible.
[21:12] <pavlushka> wxl: And then I \ll try my best to make upto
[21:14] <pavlushka> wxl: Like to add that I am not an expert in technical side, So what do you think, can I?
[21:15] <Kilos> we can help. we just need to hear what the issue is on russels side
[21:15] <Kilos> maybe he isnt even in the country anymore
[21:16] <pavlushka> Kilos: I'll forward an email of his to me, to you.
[21:16] <Kilos> i think he will have to grant admin rights to whoever takes over anyway
[21:17] <Kilos> send it to the lococouncil mail so all can see pavlushka
[21:17] <pavlushka> wxl: one thing is clear, I am not even the Member of the LoCo.
[21:18] <pavlushka> wxl: I am just subscribed to the mailing list. that's all.
[21:21] <belkinsa> Maybe you should simply introduce yourself to the list in proper terms and see if that can help.
[21:22] <pavlushka> belkinsa, Then I need to talk to you about that.
[21:22] <Kilos> this is from their lp page
[21:22] <Kilos> Policy: You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list.
[21:22] <belkinsa> pavlushka, alright.
[21:23] <pavlushka> Kilos, then now they restricted even that.
[21:25] <pavlushka> Kilos, I am subscribed in 2011.
[21:25] <wxl> oops sorry client died and i had some visitors show up
[21:25] <Kilos> oh i see now 183 active members, i misread and said over 300 sorry
[21:25] <Kilos> np wxl things happen
[21:25] <wxl> i'm probably going to have to take off on a bit
[21:25] <wxl> pavlushka: hello by the way :)
[21:26] <wxl> pavlushka: and no worries. we are ALL just ubuntu users
[21:26] <wxl> pavlushka: many of us (ok, not me, but you get the idea) are non-technical
[21:26] <wxl> pavlushka: if you are capable of leading a team of people, organizing events, encouraging participation, then you can be a LoCo leader
[21:26] <wxl> pavlushka: the best person to talk to about that is probably Kilos as he has done a lot of hard work to bring the africa locos up to speed
[21:27] <pavlushka> wxl, that needs to be practiced.
[21:27] <Kilos> its simple
[21:27] <pavlushka> wxl, Have a nice day
[21:27] <Kilos> treat everyone as you would like to be treated
[21:27] <wxl> pretty much, yep
[21:28] <pavlushka> Kilos, I believe in that motto.
[21:28] <Kilos> its the only way
[21:28] <Kilos> after all ubuntu people are nice people
[21:29] <pavlushka> Kilos, \o/
[21:29] <Kilos> everyone should be friends
[21:29] <belkinsa> +1 to the millionth
[21:29] <Kilos> wxl if you have to run ill join you and we continue this matter tomorrow maybe if all agree
[21:30] <Kilos> 30 mins to midnight here
[21:30] <wxl> sounds good Kilos
[21:30] <wxl> please everyone forward all information about this, including relavant conversations with russell, to the loco council
[21:30] <Kilos> thank you all for your time
[21:30] <wxl> we need to stay informed of what's going on
[21:31] <belkinsa> wxl, alright and thank you for your time
[21:31] <Kilos> will do ty
[21:31] <wxl> but ultimately you guys want what we want
[21:31] <wxl> we want loco teams to thrive and be successful
[21:31] <Kilos> +1
[21:32] <Kilos> ty belkinsa we will see this through to a successful conclusion
[21:32] <belkinsa> Alright.
[21:32] <wxl> ty everyone for all your help
[21:33] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[21:33] <pavlushka> TY
[21:33] <Kilos> night all, have a good day you daytime peeps
[21:33] <pavlushka> :)
[21:33] <wxl> night
[21:33] <pavlushka> Its 3.35 Am here.
[21:33] <Kilos> ouch
[21:34] <belkinsa> Nighht
[21:34] <pavlushka> belkinsa, we have an appointment, right.
[21:34] <belkinsa> With who?  Russel or the LC?
[21:35] <pavlushka> with each other.
[21:35] <pavlushka> about
[21:36] <belkinsa> About what?
[21:36] <belkinsa> Oh, sorry.


[03:18] <mjg59> Who should kernel issues be assigned to?
[03:23] <Kamion> (answered on #ubuntu-devel)


[15:32] <irossi> Hi folks its Ian Rossi
[15:33] <irossi> I'm doing as James suggested in the last email and I destroyed the environment and rebootstrapped
[15:34] <irossi> But I can't get a juju status so I just want to ./delete_all the vms and start over, but I need that maas-cli command to release the Juju bootstrap node
[15:34] <irossi> Oh think I found it
[17:23] <roo9> hi, I'm testing out MAAS and it seems to configure a username/password on the IPMI device of new nodes, but doesn't give them an IP address (they come preconfigured with a static IP)
[17:23] <roo9> any idea how to adjust how MAAS configures the IPMI?
[17:23] <roaksoax> roo9: maas does not configure IP on IPMI devices and we don't want them to
[17:24] <roaksoax> roo9: IPMI maas only obtains the IP address from BMC if there's one set statically (or dinamically) and we tell maas of the IP of the BMC
[17:24] <roaksoax> MAAS assumes that you either already configured your BMC with static IP, or DHCP
[17:24] <roo9> right, in my case unfortunately every single server comes preconfigured from the manufacturer with the same static IP
[17:24] <roo9> which, yes, retarded, but I would prefer to avoid going into the BMC bios on every single server
[17:25] <roaksoax> roo9: what you can do though is make MAAS tell the BMC "try to obtain an IP from DHCP"
[17:25] <roo9> aha, that is exactly what I want actually
[17:26] <roaksoax> roo9: ok so  what maas verison are you using? quantal? raring?
[17:26] <roo9> quantal, but this is a new deployment i'm just testing things out at this point
[17:27] <roaksoax> roo9: ok so go to: /usr/share/maas/preseeds/enlist_userdata and look for IPMI_CHANGE_STATIC_TO_DHCP="false" and change it to "true"
[17:27] <roaksoax> roo9: *and* /etc/maas/commissioning-user-data and do the same
[17:28] <roo9> I know there were a lot of changes from 12.04 -> 12.10, so I moved to quantal
[17:28] <roo9> but should I just use raring?
[17:28] <roaksoax> roo9: so that would tell the BMC to try to obtain an IP address from DHCP
[17:28] <roaksoax> roo9: quantal is fine
[17:28] <roo9> ok
[17:29] <roo9> lemme see how that works out :) thanks for help
[17:29] <roaksoax> good luck
[19:32] <roo9> roaksoax: would a node moving from Commissioning -> Ready states reprogram the IPMI?
[19:35] <roo9> I reconfigured what you suggested and reset one node manually but it didn't adjust the IPMI to use DHCP
[20:25] <roaksoax> roo9: if you did it in /etc/maas/commissioning-user-data, then it should have
[20:33] <roo9> its actually showing up properly in my user-data file as near as I can see
[20:33] <roo9> /MAAS/metadata/enlist/2012-03-01/user-data
[20:35] <roaksoax> maybe there's a biug there somehwer
[20:35] <roaksoax> i would have to invetsstigate
[20:36] <roo9> is there a way to tell the commissioning to just pause and startup sshd with a known password or something similar?
[20:50] <roaksoax> roo9: yes: https://lists.launchpad.net/maas-devel/msg00808.html
[23:56] <roo9> roaksoax: ended up being stupid dell IPMI, it was accepting the "set DHCP" command but only responded to it after a full power cycle
[23:57] <roaksoax> roo9: cool!
[23:57] <roaksoax> yeah IPMI implementations somethimes suck
[23:58] <roo9> big fan of MAAS so far btw
[23:58] <roo9> design/architecture wise its very nice
[23:59] <roaksoax> roo9: I'm glad you like it! :)


[06:05] <maxiaojun> anyone taking care of add-apt-repository ?
[10:26] <j`ey> I'm getting the following error: mk-build-deps: Unable to find package name in `apt-cache showsrc debian/control
[10:27] <cjwatson> Can you pastebin your debian/control?
[10:27] <j`ey> when running "mk-build-deps --install --tool "apt-get -y" --build-dep debian/control", anyone know how to solve it?
[10:27] <j`ey> cjwatson: where does that live>?
[10:27] <cjwatson> In your source tree ...
[10:27] <cjwatson> I mean, relative to whatever your current directory is
[10:27] <j`ey> ahhhh
[10:27] <j`ey> sorry, I see
[10:27] <j`ey> I thought debian/control was a package name or something
[10:27] <j`ey> my bad, it works now :P
[10:28] <cjwatson> Oh, indeed, build-dep debian/control makes no sense, that's a file name :)
[10:28] <cjwatson> Although mk-build-dep is supposed to be able to operate on a debian/control file
[10:29] <j`ey> I was just in the wrong directory
[14:28] <ricotz> jamespage, hi, libunwind8-dev is missing the pkg-config file
[17:49] <g25d554gf> HI
[18:11] <g25d554gf> im mehdi
[18:43] <g25d554gf> BYE
[22:10] <infinity> Riddell: kdev-python ships a lot of libraries that looks suspiciously more like plugins: libkdev4pythonduchain.so, libkdev4pythonparser.so, etc.
[22:10] <infinity> Riddell: Are you sure those shouldn't perhaps be in /usr/lib/kde4 instead of /usr/lib?
[22:11] <infinity> Riddell: Also, ./usr/lib/libpython2.7-kdevelop.so.1.0 and ./usr/lib/libpython2.7-kdevelop.so both being real files instead of one being a symlink seems a bit suspect.
[22:15] <Riddell> infinity: I'll ask upstream
[22:16] <Riddell> infinity: upstream says..
[22:16] <Riddell> 23:15 < scummos_> probably all of that is right
[22:16] <Riddell> 23:16 < scummos_> I'll report a bug to myself and take care of it before the 1.6 release
[22:17] <infinity> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5746560/ <-- Being the full contents of /usr/lib, for reference.


[00:11] <daftykins> cor, thermostat in the lounge says it's down to 16 deg C in there, almost worth giving the heating a trial run i think
[02:33] <m0nkey_> OK, so I build myself a ESXI box. Now what VMs do I want?
[02:33] <penguin42> FreeDOS
[02:33] <daftykins> i thought it was called vSphere these days
[02:34] <m0nkey_> Yeah, well vSphere then.
[02:34] <daftykins> i genuinely wasn't sure if they'd kept ESXi for the free tier or something, i requested a trial of vSphere 6.5 a bit ago and got nothing, very irritating
[02:34] <daftykins> even the free one i think
[02:35] <m0nkey_> I just downloaded ESXI 6 and installed it.
[02:35] <m0nkey_> Had to customize the installer to include Realtek NIC drivers (it's some old PC with really crappy NIC)
[02:36] <daftykins> heh
[02:36] <m0nkey_> Hey, it works.
[02:36] <daftykins> hrmm i think i got sent around the houses on the site
[02:37] <m0nkey_> You need a VMware account, but once you create it, just search for ESXI free, login and download. You'll also be given a license key to use.
[02:38] <daftykins> yeah here we are
[02:38] <daftykins> "Your download request has been received and is under review for download eligibility."
[02:38] <daftykins> then it just says "unable to process your request, please try again later"
[02:39] <m0nkey_> Weird
[02:40] <m0nkey_> daftykins, while you're logged in, go here.. https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/evalcenter?p=free-esxi6
[02:40] <daftykins> might be an address thing
[02:41] <daftykins> yeah same error
[02:41] <daftykins> on the 'license and download' tab
[02:43] <m0nkey_> You can always have my key and ISO if you want
[02:45] <daftykins> hmm i wonder if it phones home?
[02:46] <m0nkey_> Probably, but I've re-used keys many times, they really don't give a damn for the free version
[02:50] <daftykins> :D
[02:50] <daftykins> well that'd be pretty neat if you could, sir
[02:50] <daftykins> i was so disappointed when i couldn't play with server 2016's hyper-v due to a core 2 quad not supporting SLAT which it relies upon
[02:51] <m0nkey_> pm?
[02:51] <daftykins> sure
[03:19] <daftykins> watching this "Westworld (1973)" film tonight
[03:20] <m0nkey_> enjoy esxi
[03:20] <daftykins> :D i will! or at least try over the weekend :>
[03:21] <penguin42> oh, good film
[03:21] <daftykins> Crichton stuff, assuming this was also a book of his, seems to all have a similar theme!
[03:24] <penguin42> the Andromeda strain is quite different
[03:25] <daftykins> ah that title rings a bell
[03:26] <penguin42> I could comment on that but it would give a plot trick away
[03:26] <daftykins> :D
[05:19] <daftykins> 5am!
[06:44] <zmoylan-pi> something zmoylan-pi this way comes...
[09:36] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[23:57] <daftykins> wow i can see the whole day in a single screen of scrollback :P
[23:58] <zmoylan-pi> and
[23:58] <zmoylan-pi> now
[23:58] <zmoylan-pi> can
[23:58] <zmoylan-pi> you?
[23:58] <daftykins> yep!
[23:58] <zmoylan-pi> fair do's i can't stand modern silly letterbox screens
[23:59] <penguin42> I guess people have been busy blowing things up
[23:59] <zmoylan-pi> we had our blow things up day a few days ago...


[00:08] <damien> bonsoir
[01:29] <cecilfso>  hi people, can anyone help me? i have no sound on flash videos in any browser i try... i'm using kubuntu 9.10 on a 32 bit platform. I'm currently using KDE
[01:30] <jovis> can you get sound from anything?
[01:33] <cecilfso> yes, i have sound on amarok and kaffeine, but not flash videos nor vlc
[01:33] <jovis> which flash plugin did you install
[01:34] <jovis> and which browser
[01:34] <cecilfso> i installed the flash from the adobe page, then i removed it and tried the flashplugin-installer, and the nonfree-extrasound, but nothing yet
[01:34] <cecilfso> i tried opera, firefox and seamonky, and konqueroro as well
[01:35] <jovis> you checked all the mute switches i assume
[01:36] <cecilfso> yes, i did
[01:37] <cecilfso> i tried alsamixer on the terminal and unmuted the PCM as some people suggested, but...
[01:37] <jovis> try wine with IE maybe, i dunno sorry
[01:39] <cecilfso> well, i don't have wine here... but thank you anyway, jovis
[01:39] <jovis> its not hard to get
[01:39] <jovis> yast2 search wine
[01:39] <jovis> it will run IE
[01:40] <jovis> you using alsa or the other one OSS whatever
[01:43] <cecilfso> hey, i'm sorry... well, i have all this here, vlc used OSS usually, but now nothing is working... on sound devices, system has "fallen back" to the soundcard directly
[01:43] <williballenthin> is there a system settings/dialog for changing the window decorations?
[01:45] <dthacker> Hello, I'm getting a very bad looking taskbar after updating to 4.4.1 http://s842.photobucket.com/albums/zz346/dthacker_photo/?action=view&current=bad-taskbar.png
[01:46] <cecilfso> thank you anyway...i must leave...i'll try later again...bye
[02:02] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[02:03] <jovis> hello
[02:03] <[Relic]> Any 9.10 64bit users with a face book account around to check something?
[02:03] <jovis> what are you checking
[02:04] <dthacker> yes
[02:04] <[Relic]> trying to figure out why the text doesn't appear on an app game on facebook, if it is just 64bit or if I missed an install of something
[02:05] <[Relic]> http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9352/fbwarstormsnapshot.png  <-  all the text that isn't a gfx image or icon is missing
[02:07] <dthacker> cleared cache?  restarted browser?
[02:07] <[Relic]> other users seem to see it just fine but most are windows users
[02:07] <[Relic]> multiple times
[02:08] <[Relic]> trying to figure out if it is a 64bit flash incompatibility thing or something else
[02:10] <dthacker> I get nothing in the middle, just the top and bottom bar.   However I play another flash game without problems.
[02:11] <dthacker> FF 3.5.8
[02:12] <dthacker> back later
[02:12] <[Relic]> thanks
[02:12] <[Relic]> I play a lot of other flash games w/o problems
[03:05] <BiggFREE> Hi
[03:05] <BiggFREE> Just reading  Thanks
[03:24] <manu__> alguien de españa???
[03:26] <zarango> alguien de españa???
[03:46] <mintkde> ºhi guys, tragedy hit's me on my face. I renamed a *very* important directory in Dolphin via right-click-->Actions as root-->Rename. I was presented a dialog box with "/home/martin" and I wrongly renamed it to "data" when I presume should be "/home/data". Now, I can't access all the valuable files, helpp me here guys, it's very iimportant
[04:34] <jmcantrell> is there a way to change the wallpaper from the command line or python bindings?
[04:47] <globus> hello all, I got some thing need to ask guru here. It's about file system. When i use "mc" in console and traverse file system and move to some directory( different with current directory before I use mc). Then click F10 to exit mc but the directory now is not the directory which mc pointing to, that's the directory before I use mc. Anybody know how to keep current directory is the place when I exit "mc" ? Thanks !
[06:04] <jason__> so, I just installed kubuntu, and Im very disappointed that I cannot find the application "wifi radar." This is an app I absolutely need at work. How can I get this on kubuntu?
[06:07] <jason__> active chat ://
[06:07] <alakoo> um...by installing it
[06:07] <alakoo> sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[06:08] <jason__> its not in kpackage kit
[06:08] <alakoo> it's a gnome application but it should work
[06:09] <alakoo> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/all/wifi-radar/download
[06:09] <jason__> apt-get works
[06:09] <jason__> yet, its not in kpackagekit
[06:09] <jason__> why?
[06:09] <alakoo> [08:08] <alakoo> it's a gnome application
[06:09] <jason__> so gnome apps dont appear in kdes repos?
[06:09] <jason__> I thought they shared the same repos
[06:10] <alakoo> dunno, I use synaptic and it's there
[06:10] <jason__> yeah
[06:10] <jason__> kpackagekit is kind of a joke....
[06:10] <jason__> so is the "firefox installer." how about just add it by default and save the 99% of users the trouble of installing it.
[06:11] <alakoo> it annoyed me at least
[06:11] <jason__> what made you choose kubuntu over ubuntu?
[06:12] <alakoo> I've been using both and find KDE more versatile
[06:12] <jason__> yeah. Ive used gnome for a long time with occasional test-drives of KDE.
[06:13] <jason__> Ive always went back to gnome, yet I never had a real reason why. comfort zone, I suppose.
[06:13] <jason__> more familiar territory or whatever
[06:13] <jason__> but I look at some of these KDE installs and they look wicked nice. trying to mess around and see if I can get a sleek dekstop goin with it
[06:15] <alakoo> jason__: btw they do share repos but your package kit shows only kde as default
[06:16] <jason__> I see
[06:16] <jason__> do you use pulse audio with kde
[06:16] <jason__> I had problems galore with kde's audio last time I used it, but didnt use pulse. someone told me I should use pulse....
[06:17] <alakoo> no..just the pulse client libraries, but whatever works
[06:21] <jason__> yeah... just like last time, audio problems with kubuntu. sigh....
[06:36] <corigo> Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 but my plasma workspace is crashing at login. Nothing but a black desktop
[06:40] <corigo> Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 but my plasma workspace is crashing at login. Nothing but a black desktop
[06:44] <bromas> hello everyone
[06:45] <bromas> could someone give me so advice how to get KDE working on Ubuntu server? I installed X-Windows-core and KDE packages, but KDE doesn't start after system reboot.
[06:58] <Krooks> anyone here use kubuntu ?
[06:58] <corigo> Yes
[07:05] <bromas> i guess my question is ignored... pff.. support... thanks for answer!
[07:19] <corigo> Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 but my plasma workspace is crashing at login. Nothing but a black desktop
[07:19] <amateja> hi, I get 'hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4' in /var/log/kernel.log while usb drive is plugged in and I'm not able to use any usb drive
[07:20] <amateja> Does anybody come across this issue?
[07:22] <corigo> Bromas: your question is not about Kubuntu but KDE as far as I can tell and about KDE on a multiple desktop systm
[07:22] <corigo> Amateja: new to me
[07:23] <amateja> corigo: First time I met this bug was using PLD Linux and I solved by removing ehci_hcd module
[07:25] <amateja> but in Ubuntu I have no ehci_hcd module loaded
[07:26] <amateja> imho it's not my error, because even kubuntu livecd can't mount any usb drive
[07:26] <amateja> I tested this with kubuntu 9.10 i 10.04 (notebook IBM T42), but on Dell Latitude D630 it's ok
[07:29] <corigo> Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 but my plasma workspace is crashing at login. Nothing but a black desktop
[07:52] <Timberly> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[07:54] <smokealot> Timberly: thanks!!!, worked just like i knew it would
[08:01] <corigo> Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 (Kubuntu_64) and now my workspace is crashing on login. Black desktop with no UI
[08:03] <noaXess> good morning
[08:04] <noaXess> does anybody has a solution for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/407344
[08:04] <noaXess> is the cups downgrade really the only solution?
[08:09] <Lovie> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:10] <corigo> Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 (Kubuntu_64) and now my workspace is crashing on login. Black desktop with no UI
[08:10] <Lovie> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:11] <Lovie> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:11] <noaXess> wtf.. no admin here to stop that spammers?
[08:11] <Marlon> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:18] <corigo> Why is it so quiet here tonight?
[08:22] <corigo> Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 (Kubuntu_64) and now my workspace is crashing on login. Black desktop with no UI
[08:23] <amateja> corigo: I'd like to hear a solution for my case too :)
[08:23] <corigo> The only UI box I am getting is a warning about a dependency resolution error.
[08:24] <germanjew> can anyone here please help me with setting up a cloiu
[08:25] <germanjew> can anyone here please help me with setting up a cloud*
[08:26] <areichman> germanjew: setting up a cloud? What do you mean?
[08:26] <germanjew> I think I have everything set up right, but when I want to run an instance it takes forever to complete. and then the status goes straight from pending to shutting down
[08:27] <areichman> germanjew: what do you mean when you say cloud?
[08:27] <areichman> are you talking about owncloud, the new kde project?
[08:28] <germanjew> I have a cluster and two nodes, I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall
[08:28] <germanjew> no, not the new kde project
[08:29] <germanjew> sorry I don't know how to better describe what I'm trying to do
[08:29] <germanjew> everything is fine, up until step 7.3
[08:29] <areichman> germanjew: sorry, I can't help you :-( I hadn't even heard of UEC until just now
[08:30] <germanjew> hehe ok thanks anyways
[08:34] <globus> hello all, I got some thing need to ask guru here. It's about file system. When i use "mc" in console and traverse file system and move to some directory( different with current directory before I use mc). Then click F10 to exit mc but the directory now is not the directory which mc pointing to, that's the directory before I use mc. Anybody know how to keep current directory is the place when I exit "mc" ? Thanks !
[09:01] <babalu> hi, is there a way to check the battery status in command line? and is there a way to get the computer to sleep when we are without server X? or is that a server X feature?
[09:35] <noaXess> does anybody has a solution for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/407344
[09:35] <noaXess> is the cups downgrade really the only solution?
[09:35] <noaXess> babalu: think there are command for battery check.. let me check..
[09:36] <babalu> noaXess: i think this one is good: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state
[09:37] <noaXess> babalu: yes.. and i think to that there are scripts to put your machine in sleep mode without x..
[09:37] <noaXess> babalu: ls -l /etc/acpi/
[09:38] <babalu> noaXess: oh ok, thanks
[09:39] <rethus> which programm can i use to play audio-cd? amarok doesn't have this feature ?!
[09:42] <ka> Hm seems to mee that sound crashes often in kubuntu 9.10. Any workarounds?
[09:43] <rethus> ka: never crash on my kubuntu
[09:43] <rethus> maybe a special hardware issue
[09:44] <ka> Hm I figured as much although I havn't had this problem before...
[09:45] <rethus> check your hardware and search for hardware-specific issues
[09:45] <ka> I get an error message sasying "Phonon: KDE's Multimedia Library -  The audio playback device  ... does not work."
[09:46] <ka> Maybe I'll just throw 10.04 beta on the box and see if it works...
[09:49] <rethus> maybe try xine-backend
[09:49] <rethus> or have a try to 10.04
[09:52] <Tux_Soul> Hi to all
[09:53] <Tux_Soul> I installed Ubuntu, then installed KDE throught kubuntu-desktop
[09:53] <Tux_Soul> now I'm using amarok
[09:53] <noaXess> does noone has the print problem with cups? /usr/lib/cups/filter/pdftopdf failed
[09:53] <Tux_Soul> but the equalizer option is grayed out
[09:53] <Tux_Soul> why?
[09:56] <Tux_Soul> Hmmmm... :(
[10:03] <ka> Which amarok version are you running
[10:04] <ka> @ Tux_Soul
[10:16] <noaXess> is there a way to backport cups 1.4.2 from lucid to karmic? in lucid there is cups v1.4.2 available, in marmic still v1.4.1 which has some bugs..
[10:22] <Mamarok> noaXess: did you check the backports and porposed repositories?
[10:22] <Mamarok> proposed*
[10:23] <noaXess> Mamarok:  yes.. i think. have backports enabled...
[10:23] <eagles05138785> morning guys
[10:23] <noaXess> i don't really know, if it's a cups problem or any other package..
[10:26] <noaXess> Mamarok: any idea?
[10:28] <noaXess> also also have this ppa enabled deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/dnjl/ppa/ubuntu karmic main and there is this cups version: 1.4.1-5ubuntu2.4.1~dnjl2~karmic0
[10:28] <noaXess> have contacted dnjl and wait for a answer.. but i think the printing problem is not in cups, it' seams it's in another package..
[10:29] <noaXess> Mamarok: proposed are ppackage that are unsupported? in updates i have important, recommended, pre-released and unsupported packages activated..
[10:30] <mahrend> hi
[10:30] <noaXess> and also this: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu and http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu... and some others for spec. packages.
[10:30] <mahrend> when kubuntu logs into kde how i can force that i got a busy cursor until kde start is done?
[10:32] <lalalol> HELP!!!!!! i yesterday installed avant window navigator, today i wake up, boot my machine and im running GNOME, HELP!!! i want KDE back
[10:34] <eagles05138785> !patience | lalalol
[10:34] <Mamarok> noaXess: no, check the karmic backports and proposed
[10:34] <eagles05138785> lalalol: are you at the login screen
[10:34] <lalalol> eagles05138785, no, im on the desktop and quassel is opened
[10:35] <eagles05138785> well you need to go back to the login screen and there is a button you press and it gives u options and kde should be listed and you click it then login and u should be on kde
[10:35] <Mamarok> noaXess: my bad, their workding is a bit strange
[10:35] <lalalol> ok
[10:35] <lalalol> brb
[10:35] <noaXess> Mamarok: backports i have enabled, that is http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu tight?
[10:35] <noaXess> right ^
[10:36] <Mamarok> noaXess: no, it is called unsupported apparently, I talk about the regular repositoreis, not the PPA
[10:36] <Mamarok> repositories*
[10:36] <noaXess> Mamarok: okay.. so the four check boxes in kapackagekit, settings, tab updates, right?
[10:37] <Mamarok> cups has nothing to do with KDE, it is a package in the underlying structure of ubuntu, henc if there is a backport it should be in the karmic-backports
[10:37] <Mamarok> noaXess: that would be the ones, yes
[10:37] <noaXess> Mamarok: so i have they enabled..
[10:37] <lalalol> phew
[10:37] <noaXess> seams to not be the solution
[10:38] <Mamarok> noaXess: why do you need a newer Cups version exactly?
[10:38] <lalalol> so eagles05138785, i now have GNOME installed on my machine too cause of that 1 app?
[10:38] <eagles05138785> you shouldnt
[10:38] <Mamarok> lalalol: those are only the libraries
[10:38] <lalalol> Mamarok, how come i was on gnome then? :O i dont understand
[10:39] <noaXess> Mamarok: i get ths error, if i print any, even a test page over cups admin: /usr/lib/cups/filter/pdftopdf failed.. and found this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/407344 but no solution yet
[10:39] <Mamarok> lalalol: I didn't follow your case exactly, but unless you installed ubuntu-desktop, that would be the only package that drags in Gnome, else it would only be libraries
[10:40]  * Jaimie waves
[10:40] <noaXess> Mamarok: i need to get printing back soon..
[10:41] <lalalol> ok Mamarok
[10:41] <lalalol> eagles05138785, i had like 6 options to choose from, will kde be the default from now on? :)
[10:41] <eagles05138785> lalalol: should be once you log in
[10:41] <Mamarok> noaXess: well, then talk to tillkampeter in this bug report directly, he is the printer wizardry guy, if you still have the bug with that package, it is in the karmic updates AFAICS
[10:42] <lalalol> thx eagles05138785 :)
[10:42] <noaXess> Mamarok: okay..
[10:42] <Mamarok> and the bug should be reopened itf this doesn't fix it
[10:42] <eagles05138785> no problemo lalalol
[10:44] <noaXess> Mamarok: have also make a comment to the bug..
[10:44] <lalalol> eagles05138785, do you happen to have experience with AWN?
[10:45] <eagles05138785> lalalol: whats that
[10:45] <lalalol> eagles05138785, its an app that imitates the dock from OSX
[10:46] <noaXess> Mamarok: where do i get proposed packages? do i have them allready if i checked all checkboxes in updates?
[10:46] <eagles05138785> no i dont have any experience with it
[10:46] <lalalol> and with other docks?
[11:04] <eagles05138785> lalalol: no dock experience
[11:04] <lalalol> k eagles05138785
[11:05] <Mamarok> noaXess: if you checked those and did an update, it should show you the packages to upgrade to
[11:05] <Mamarok> if there are none, you probably already have it
[11:05] <Mamarok> noaXess: else you can check the exact version with that: apt-cache policy cups
[11:15] <andrea_> ciao a tutti! e buona primavera :)
[11:16] <n8w> how do i enable menubar in dolphin?ive turned it off my mistake
[11:16] <n8w> *by
[11:18] <lup0> n8w: Ctrl+M
[11:18] <n8w> lup0:  heh i just found it:))
[11:18] <n8w> lup0:  thx anywai
[11:18] <lup0> n8w: np
[11:24] <andrea_> ciao
[11:32] <Mamarok> !it | andrea_
[11:33] <lalalol> there isnt any good dock for kubuntu/kde :'(
[11:37] <Matisse> hi
[11:37] <Matisse> usb-stuff is always mounted as read-only. How do I change it or is it a hardware error?
[11:38] <Matisse> (working with root rights, still no deletion is permitted)
[11:50] <Matisse> anyone?
[11:53] <lalalol> !kde
[11:53] <lalalol> !kde irc
[11:54] <bazhang> lalalol, /msg alis list *kde*
[11:54] <lalalol> thx
[12:05] <andrea__> ciao
[12:05] <bazhang> !it
[12:06] <andrea__> ok grazie
[12:11] <ner0x> Any good tutorials on how to connect to a vpn?
[12:14] <Mamarok> ner0x: have a look here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Documentation
[12:15] <ner0x> Mamarok: Thanks, I'll bookmark that page.
[12:16] <Mamarok> ner0x: worng link, sorry, I meant this one: http://kubuntuguide.org/Karmic
[12:16] <Mamarok> there is a section about VPN
[12:18] <Mamarok> ner0x: this one in particular: http://kubuntuguide.org/Karmic#VPN_Clients
[13:46] <terran4000> Hey, is there a user specifc version of the /etc/hosts file? Like .hosts?
[13:46] <terran4000> er .. like ~/.hosts
[14:09] <terran4000> hm, nevermind. Ended up editing the /etc/hosts file anyway and adding on a few lines in my .bash_aliases file
[14:21] <s2r> hello.
[14:22] <s2r> Is there any way to use local serial port while connecting to a remote desktop via rdp in kubuntu?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:03] <Lynoure> Lately (last week or so) Amarok has been segfaulting on me, playing or paused, about every 20 minutes
[15:03] <Lynoure> Any ideas of what could be the cause?
[15:09] <fabri> sera a tutti
[15:14] <vbgunz> will kubuntu 9.10 support qt 4.6? if so, will it also support _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST ?
[15:17] <fabri> i'm sorry, iìm looking italian chat about kubuntu...
[15:18] <lalalol> how many choices do you have for your DE on loginscreen?
[15:18] <lalalol> 2 or 3?
[15:18] <rork_> !it | fabri
[15:26] <lalalol> who knows?
[15:39] <jovis> anyone using a geforce 9500 agpx16 card?
[15:42] <jovis> when I in
[15:43] <jovis> when I install the nvidia driver i get a pillarbox effect (it's not fullscreen) and the mouse cursor can move into the pillerbox'ed area and disappears
[15:44] <jovis> if I dont turn on acceleration and enable the card in the bios, it's fullscreen but no acceleration
[15:44] <jovis> and no DVI output, i have to use the dvi-vga adaptor
[15:46] <jovis> and then stuff gets all hosed up and i have to reinstall theroot partition
[15:46] <jovis> similar problems with suse
[15:51] <mudassar> Can somebody help me installing Centos as a guestOS in xen ? (on fedora machine)
[15:51] <mudassar> I don't know which channel to join as everything is relate to different OS :)
[15:52] <mudassar> related*
[15:53] <jovis> why dont you just put it on a different partition
[15:53] <bright__> can someone send me my first ebook on irc
[15:53] <Lord-Rahl> what is the command to do a inplace upgrade to 10.4
[15:56] <jovis> you mean 10.04?
[15:57] <mudassar> jovis: it is the requirement of my client
[15:58] <jovis> you said 10.4
[15:59] <jovis> the only release I see on the ftp site is called lucid and it says 10.04
[16:00] <Pici> Lord-Rahl : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[16:02] <Lord-Rahl> Pici: that fine but they tell me to use update manager and gnome i have kde
[16:02] <Lord-Rahl> that*
[16:03] <jovis> why would the window manager have anything to do with it
[16:04] <Lord-Rahl> kubuntu does not have update manager I know of and the command for gnome pre release in update-manager -d or something like
[16:05] <Pici> Lord-Rahl: Then tell them that. #ubuntu+1 is for all 10.04 support, regarless of whether its Kubuktu/Xubuntu or Ubuntu
[16:05] <Lord-Rahl> I want to install it but not download a dvd since I have it kubuntu 9.10 I search on google a number of time and can not find the command to do in place upgrade
[16:05] <jovis> Latest news Kubuntu 10.04 LTS Beta 1 Available for Testing Fri, 2010-03-19
[16:06] <Pici> Lord-Rahl: Join and I'll tell you how.
[16:06] <Lord-Rahl> OK
[16:06] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody here uses an intel gma965
[16:16] <bigbrovar> Hi guys I am trying to sync my address book contact with google contact using akonadi google-data, although I am able to pull my contacts from google, I am unable to sync my changes to google contacts it says failed adding new contacts. :(
[16:20] <rysiek|pl> bigbrovar: whoa, that's weird to see you here. ;) anywhoo, any other error msgs from Akonadi?
[16:21] <bigbrovar> rysiek|pl: nope just says failed adding new contact :(
[16:21] <bigbrovar> rysiek|pl: does it work for u
[16:22] <bigbrovar> rysiek|pl: is there a way i can get more logs from akonadi?
[16:24] <rysiek|pl> bigbrovar: humm...
[16:24] <lalalol> how do i uninstall a language via the konsole?
[16:24] <rysiek|pl> bigbrovar: I don't export my contacts to gmail (I prefer to keep my private data, well, private)
[16:24] <rysiek|pl> bigbrovar: but there was an akonadi log file somewhere, lemme check
[16:25] <bigbrovar> rysiek|pl: is there a way to keep my contacts synced across all my desktops and devices?
[16:26] <rysiek|pl> bigbrovar: SyncML/OpenSync/KitchenSync/Syncevolution I think might do it, but I never really tried
[16:28] <bigbrovar> did I see evolution **yikes**
[16:29] <lalalol> please?
[16:34] <rysiek|pl> bigbrovar: "syncevolution" ;)
[16:40] <aperson> hmm... all of a sudden X died
[16:40] <aperson> and switching to the 7th TTY doesn't bring be back
[16:41]  * aperson blames amarok - things always go wonky when he uses amarok to transfer music to his ipod
[16:45] <Mamarok> aperson: a dying X is more likely a graphic driver problem, unlikely it is due to an app
[16:46] <aperson> Mamarok, then why does my system only ever lock up and go wonky when I'm transferring music via amarok?
[16:46] <aperson> it never happens otherwise
[16:46] <Mamarok> ask in #amarok?
[16:47] <aperson> lets try this again, fresh boot this time
[16:50] <aperson> yeah, sadly I usually do get better answers if I don't ask them here :)
[16:56] <zus> does anyone know how to flip windows? its like alt-tab ecept the window turns around i seen it on one of the youtube videos the guy said it was a compiz feature??? (and also when does kubuntu 10.4 come out?)
[16:56] <Vroomfondle> kubuntu doesn't use compiz unless you've re-configured it
[16:57] <Vroomfondle> it uses KDE4's in-built compositing engine
[16:57] <zus> i am using it from  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:57] <Vroomfondle> which AFAIK doesn't do that effect (I could be wrong)
[16:57] <Vroomfondle> then it's using the standard KDE compositing
[16:57] <Vroomfondle> compiz doesn't work very well with KDE
[16:58] <zus> i've seen kubuntu on the live disc a few times but i've only been using this for 2 days... i really like it
[16:59] <Vroomfondle> there's a reference to a "flip switch" effect in the KDE4.4 release goals - dunno if that's the same sort of thing (Kubuntu presently uses KDE4.3)
[16:59] <Vroomfondle> yeah, it's a decent desktop environment
[17:00] <zus> what got me was the tree view when looking in folders.... other than that i like the simplicity of nautilus and gnome just as much...
[17:03] <zus> well its almost like having two windows open but lined up back to back and when ya switch the window itself turns over. was amusing to see, and would like to try it over the window dodge effect,..well i havent set up any eye candy on the kde session
[17:06] <zus> now what about wallpapers and icons and sounds? since i used gnome and the terminal and installed the kubuntu-desktop (though i made the kde default) are the folders and icon installation still the same?
[17:11] <zus> how can i find out what kde i am using kde 3   or kde 4
[17:15] <babalu> zus: in a kde application you can go in the Help menu and 'About KDE'
[17:15] <zus> babalu,  thank you.
[17:21] <zus> im using kubuntu, can i use the mint KDE themes? , hehe after a while this is TOO much blue
[17:23] <avihay> visit kde-looks, yhere's boud to be something for your taste
[17:23] <zus> im here now
[17:23] <zus> there **
[17:23] <zoiss> hey guys. after upgrading to kde4.4.1 via backports my plasma workspace crashes every time i shut down/restart/log off. the placement of items on the control bar therefore is discarded. did anyone encounter the same problem?
[17:24] <christian__> nhaaaaaaaa
[17:24] <zus> there is a few items but is the install different with kde? i only know gnome yet.
[17:24] <christian__> brasil??/
[17:24] <christian__> brazucas???~;/
[17:25] <Pici> !br | christian__
[17:25] <christian__> ok[
[17:26] <christian__> obrigado
[17:29] <nacho2k> hi guys, I have two video cards, one onboard, and one matrox, and I am not able to run dual monitor, I have googled it but nothing helps, everybody seems to use nvida cards and I dont have one, it is possible to have dual monitor with matrox and onboard vga card?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> !matrox | nacho2k
[17:35] <zus> is kde 4.4 for lucid?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> nacho2k, install the xserver-xorg-video-mga driver for matrox cards
[17:38] <rasta> servus
[17:38] <nacho2k> BluesKaj: thanks!  I will try to find it and install it!
[17:39] <BluesKaj> nacho2k, itshould be available in your package manager or apt in the terminal
[17:39] <nacho2k> BluesKaj: I am trying with apt-get
[17:39] <BluesKaj> nacho2k,in the terminal, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-mga
[17:40] <nacho2k> BluesKaj: I have already installed it says...
[17:49] <daniel__> In windows you can get system info using keyboard/mouse.  How can you do that in Linux?
[17:50] <daniel__> I am looking to find out how much memory Linux says I have.
[17:51] <x0ttabbl4> Здесь есть русскоговорящие?
[17:55] <rork_> !ru | x0ttabbl4
[17:56] <daniel__> OKay, I need to run out, but I will be back later to ask again.
[17:56] <x0ttabbl4> OK.
[17:56] <rork_> daniel__: check system monitor
[17:57] <daniel__> Thank you.
[17:57] <daniel__> I think it is saying I have 1,001.9MB.    I need to get this thing running again asap
[18:07] <fp|Cova> its running kubuntu 9.10 amd64, with kds sc 4.4 from the ppa installed
[18:08] <fp|Cova> the mouse focus /  keyboard focus is just ... hard to describe and very wrong
[18:09] <fp|Cova> if anyone has idea's on what could cause the mouse to behave eratically like that, I'm all ears.  else I've gotta get on backing up / formatting / re-installing this system soon
[18:11] <schmirrwurst> What is the best way to request a package update for rekonq in kubuntu lucid ? Some important bugs have been corrected upstreams...
[18:12] <schmirrwurst> I've already reported on lp, but I don't know if it is enough ?
[18:18] <otswim> could someone help me grab the videos that are on: http://www.livestream.com/striderdoom?
[20:06] <_kyle__> hey guys, i have a gpg key file which i need to import via konsole, any one able to help me on how to do this?
[20:10] <hoppy> gpg --import key.asc
[20:12] <_kyle__> but the files extension is .gpg and not asc?
[20:19] <zus> can kde change the splash and login still??
[20:34] <vadmin> hello world!
[20:36] <vadmin> how install an pakage in kubuntu?
[20:38] <Kolia> vadmin: kpackagekit
[20:38] <Kolia> or terminal (sudo apt-get install packagename)
[20:38] <vadmin> thank you Kolia
[20:40] <vadmin> i want to install a firefox from this utility but i diden't
[20:40] <_kyle__> from konsole (sudo aptitude install firefox)
[20:41] <genii> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[20:42] <zus> can you install firefox 3.6 yet in kubuntu?
[20:42] <vadmin> how
[20:43] <vadmin> thank you all freind
[20:43] <genii> zus: Yes if you use the firefox ppa
[20:44] <zus> genii,  im new to linux for since  9.10 release and kubuntu for about 3 days
[20:45] <vadmin> now i install firefox current....
[20:46] <vadmin> to genii expain me this command line
[20:48] <Biosftw> hey how do i create an ad hoc network? when i try to create one with knetworkmanager nothing happens
[20:49] <zus> genii,  where do i find this ppa for firefox?
[20:52] <skeletor> could't the 10.4b1 iso be dd'ed directly to a usb key?
[20:52] <Sentynel> If this is a line in my fstab, why can't I execute files on that disk? The partition is mounted automatically and I can read and write to it, I just can't run anything. "UUID=5e359653-7339-4418-a315-537ed34473a9 /media/disk2 ext3 auto,exec,rw,suid,user 0 0"
[20:53] <zus> can i also get kde 4.4 instead of kde 3.4 on kubuntu 9.10?
[20:56] <dezk> hey how to use samba
[20:56] <vadmin> genii , thank you your command line is the best
[20:57] <lucitu> zus: go to kubuntu.org how2. uneed to add kubuntu-ppa
[20:57] <dezk> i need to conect  kubuntu-ubuntu
[20:57] <lucitu> zus: what's kde 3.4?
[20:57] <dezk> im downloading samba4   samba4-clients    samba.common
[20:57] <dezk> kde  4.1
[20:57] <vadmin> how -ppa?
[20:58] <zus> lucitu,  i was using gnome ubuntu 9.10 and did a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:00] <vadmin> it exist a winamp for unix kubuntu?
[21:02] <lucitu> zus: 9.10 comes with kde 4.3.x
[21:02] <DHGE> !audacious
[21:03] <zus> lucitu,  i was looking to upgrad to firefox 3.6 and KDE 4.4.
[21:15] <vadmin> how install 7zip
[21:16] <vadmin> genii how install the latest version of 7zip in kubuntu
[21:18] <ybit> heh, i've a slight problem where when i move the mouse to the top of the screen, that little bar from kubuntu-netbook-remix appears, and me no likey.
[21:18] <ybit> hows to make it disappear for great good?
[21:20] <unixxbaby> hallo ppl i need help
[21:21] <unixxbaby> do any one now how to sher a file or folder in win 7 and kubuntu ?
[21:21] <unixxbaby> in same hdd
[21:21] <vadmin> how install a .rpm in kubuntu
[21:22] <unixxbaby> in same partition
[21:22] <vadmin> unixxbaby , with vmware
[21:22] <unixxbaby> no...
[21:23] <unixxbaby> i partitioner it my hdd
[21:23] <unixxbaby> so 5o are win 7 and there ander one is kde 4.4
[21:24] <unixxbaby> so now i need to acc the both in order to shere file like music and move so on
[21:24] <djustice> anybody here use convertxtodvd?
[21:25] <vadmin> yes , i explain  for me i install kubuntu in vmware and in vm exist a utility to share a partition hgfs
[21:25] <unixxbaby> are i need too access the win 7 partitison it give err text as soon i clik on win hdd
[21:25] <James147> unixxbaby: you can access all win 7 files in kubuntu but you cant the other way around. The only way to share files both ways is to have a seprate partition formatted as vfat or ntfs
[21:25] <vadmin> /mnt/hgfs
[21:27] <unixxbaby> jammes son now anther way .....??
[21:27] <unixxbaby> soo½!
[21:27] <lalalol> my calendar sets sunday as the first day: wth?
[21:28] <unixxbaby> why cant we access the win 7 hdd in side the kde 4.4? help :)
[21:28] <lalalol> and when i click adjust date & time, it shows monday as first day in that window, but the calendar itself doesnt update, is there a fix for this?
[21:28] <James147> unixxbaby: you cant access extX from windows unless you use the ext drivers for windows (but they havent been maintained in years and I am not sure how safe they are). So only other way would be to store everything on the windows partition
[21:29] <James147> unixxbaby: you should beable to acces win 7 from linux
[21:29] <vadmin> p7zip
[21:29] <James147> unixxbaby: I think you need to be root to mount it though, so dolphin can't mount them
[21:30] <unixxbaby> okej,,,, so what do i need to mount the win 7 hdd?
[21:30] <iconmefisto> !info ntfs-config | unixxbaby
[21:30] <unixxbaby> i got the kubuntu 10.04 beat
[21:32] <iconmefisto> unixxbaby: I think there is a bug in dolphin kde 4.4 where it doesn't mount filesystems
[21:32] <unixxbaby> okej
[21:33] <lalalol> doh! i removed the clock from my taskbar and cant add it back
[21:33] <unixxbaby> i understand be coze the kde 4.4 is not the full os get right...
[21:34] <unixxbaby> so u now ppl i now to linux :)
[21:35] <James147> unixxbaby: how much do you know about command line?
[21:35] <unixxbaby> but the kde rocks,,,,:)  tnx to u r ppl how put hard work in to it
[21:35] <iconmefisto> unixxbaby: if you use ntfs-config, windows partitions should be automounted and ready to use
[21:35] <unixxbaby> lol
[21:35] <unixxbaby> not match
[21:36] <unixxbaby> i m mac user :)
[21:36] <lalalol> why does the calendar from my clock on the taskbar show sunday as 1st day? :@@@@@@@@
[21:36] <unixxbaby> sh command understand lil:)
[21:37] <unixxbaby> i do ..,
[21:37] <unixxbaby> but still got som err
[21:37] <unixxbaby> some
[21:37] <RedXIII> http://imagebin.ca/view/uWc5n68w.html <- I'm having this problem while using x11vnc over vncviewer
[21:37] <RedXIII> Anyone have any idea?
[21:38] <unixxbaby> the win 7 is ntfs partition ...
[21:38] <unixxbaby> that why i don understand why i con"t mount the hdd ...
[21:39] <James147> unixxbaby: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdXX /path/to/mount/point   <- where /dev/sdXX is the device id and /path/... is the path to where you want it mounted
[21:39] <iconmefisto> lalalol: check time & date settings in systemsettings > country/region & language
[21:39] <lalalol> iconmefisto, i have, its OK, but that calendar doesnt update or so :S
[21:40] <unixxbaby> ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/sdXX': No such file or directory
[21:40] <unixxbaby> ntfs-3g 2009.4.4 external FUSE 28 - Third Generation NTFS Driver
[21:40] <unixxbaby> Copyright (C) 2005-2007 Yura Pakhuchiy
[21:40] <unixxbaby> Copyright (C) 2006-2009 Szabolcs Szakacsits
[21:40] <unixxbaby> Copyright (C) 2007-2009 Jean-Pierre Andre
[21:40] <unixxbaby> Copyright (C) 2009 Erik Larsson
[21:40] <FloodBotK3> unixxbaby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <iconmefisto> lalalol: changes to settings won't show until you log out and log in again
[21:40] <James147> unixxbaby: you need to change /dev/sdXX with the actual partition number
[21:40] <unixxbaby> sorry my bad
[21:41] <unixxbaby> how?
[21:41] <James147> unixxbaby: use sudo fdisk -l  to list the drives
[21:41] <lalalol> my bad iconmefisto
[21:41] <lalalol> iconmefisto, i have 1 more problem though, the dates are shown in my mother tongue
[21:42] <lalalol> but i want everything in english
[21:43] <iconmefisto> lalalol: do you have english in the language list in the locale tab?
[21:44] <lalalol> yup!
[21:44] <lalalol> its the only one
[21:45] <iconmefisto> lalalol: what about the button "select system language"? maybe that will fix things for you?
[21:46] <lalalol> ill click that ^^
[21:47] <lalalol> meh, its not that big of a deal, maybe itll be fixed on reboot or so, ill see tomorrow, thx :)
[21:48] <lalalol> oh wait
[21:48] <lalalol> 1 more thing
[21:48] <lalalol> can i make synaptic look more kdelike?
[21:49] <Typos_King> kdelike?
[21:49]  * Typos_King scratches head
[21:49] <lalalol> yeah, making it look more like a kde app
[21:50] <lalalol> it looks like a windows 95 app atm
[21:50] <Typos_King> not sure how much skinning you can do to it
[21:50] <Typos_King> it may not allow much other than for window decorations, which are provided by the window manager already
[21:51] <lalalol> i once had it have the same, but i cant remember how
[21:52] <lalalol> gonna google it
[21:53] <unixxbaby> it works out well did change the partition tnx you 4 all hard word in to the os .... love the kde 4.4
[21:55] <iconmefisto> lalalol: I think it's because it runs as root, and the root user appearance settings are different to your normal user settings. try changing appearance settings with kdesudo systemsettings
[21:56] <James147> unixxbaby: you will want to add a line to /etc/fstab if you want the partitions to be mounted again when you reboot
[21:57] <unixxbaby> okej tnxxx :)
[21:59] <lalalol> still ugly as hell lol
[22:02] <jeanmohabstlouis> hi
[22:13] <ybit> any ideas why amarok fails to play me mp3s?: xine_open for gapless playback failed!
[22:13] <ybit> skips all of them and tells me there are too many errors
[22:15] <iconmefisto> ybit: can you play mp3s with other players?
[22:15] <ybit> iconmefisto: yup, np
[22:18] <Typos_King> maybe reinstall amarok
[22:18] <Typos_King> :)
[22:18] <Typos_King> there's a new version of it btw
[22:18] <Typos_King> 2.3 I think
[22:18]  * Typos_King uses audacious
[22:19] <iconmefisto> ybit: install libxine1-all-plugins and restart amarok
[22:19] <iconmefisto> !info libxine1-all-plugins
[22:20] <ybit> well that works
[22:20] <ybit> thanks iconmefisto
[22:20] <iconmefisto> ybit: working now?
[22:20] <ybit> yup
[22:20] <Typos_King> ahemm or just install xine-ui,   is a better player than dragofly anywway :P
[22:20] <ybit> tanks a lot :)
[22:20] <Typos_King> and I think that comes with all thos libs :P
[22:21] <Typos_King> amarok for me plays mp3s, but that after I insalled audacious which installed many audio libraries, it didn't before,now it does ehhe
[22:21] <Typos_King> used to play wav and ogg only before though :)
[22:27] <zus> where is the update manager in kubuntu?
[22:27] <zus> am i over looking something some place?
[22:29] <iconmefisto> zus: kpackagekit? or the update notifier?
[22:30] <Typos_King> zus  is kpackagekit
[22:30] <zus> iconmefisto, to update the machine and packages
[22:31] <zus> thanks
[22:32] <zus> i see it i realized the explanation is in bold above the name of the item..
[22:34] <Matisse> hi
[22:35] <Matisse> since upgrade to kde 4.4 kwin (kde-window-decorator) crashes after login
[22:35] <Matisse> how do i solve that problem?
[22:35] <Matisse> (manually typing kwin --replace works fine)
[22:38] <Typos_King> Matisse:    try with -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kwin;
[22:38] <FremenBlue> !grub2
[22:39] <Matisse> Typos_King, thx, maybe that'll do the trick
[22:46] <FremenBlue> hey, i just set Default in /etc/default/grub to entry 2, that would be the correct entry for the previous kernel right? because entry 0 and 1 are the new kernel and new kernel recovery?
[22:49] <iconmefisto> FremenBlue: right, the default will now be the 3rd item in the grub menu instead of the 1st
[22:55] <damien__> ass
[22:59] <zus> whats the diference on  kubuntu dvd or cd?  that one ya have to buy and the other can be ordered or downloaded free?
[23:00] <Typos_King> sizes :)
[23:00] <Typos_King> that's about it
[23:01] <Typos_King> the dvd will be about 5gbs, including piles of archived apps, the cd just 700mbs with the OS and some apps :)
[23:01] <James147> zus: I think the dvd contains more packages on it so you can install more things from the dvd
[23:07] <iconmefisto> zus: you can download the dvd too. it's just harder to find a link for the dvd downloads
[23:07] <Typos_King> harder?
[23:08] <iconmefisto> Typos_King: harder than finding links to cd images on ubuntu or kubuntu sites
[23:08] <zus> i made a kubuntu disk and it wouldnt work for some reason, it hangs up but it worked well on my other machine....
[23:08] <Typos_King> ahemm hehe
[23:08] <Typos_King> well,  I found all in one folder...sooo
[23:09] <Typos_King> but I guess they're not upfront on the site...though I seem to recall they have a link there for both
[23:09] <Typos_King> zus:   define 'hangs'
[23:09] <iconmefisto> Typos_King: folder? I'm talking about links on websites. eg "download now" links
[23:10] <Typos_King> hehe
[23:10] <iconmefisto> Typos_King: what's funny?
[23:10] <Typos_King> yes, I mean I found an folder, with the .iso, I think it was an ftp
[23:10] <zus> Typos_King,  well after the logo, it goes blacks and an _ blinks and stays till i do something like turn of the machine and give up.
[23:10] <Typos_King> might have been an http, can't recall, it showed the dvd and also a selection of about 15cds too
[23:11] <Typos_King> zus:     retry, stick the live-cd, before pressing enter, press F6, check acpi=off and noapic from those boot options, then press Enter
[23:12] <zus> one time it did it for a few minutes then i  couldnt wait rebooted, then another time i wound up watching television for an hour and it didnt change at all
[23:12] <Typos_King> F6 has a few more boot options, if you think you could use more, but usually I've had issues with the APM module, at least on some hardware, so turning it off works
[23:12] <zus> Typos_King,  i had to use my ubuntu disc and then install the desktop session
[23:13] <Typos_King> ?
[23:13] <Typos_King> install the..?   well...  soooo...how.... I mean.that's the regular installation
[23:14] <zus> yeah in the end all is well,
[23:15] <zus> im still learning  hehe been on linux for almost 4 5 months?
[23:17] <zus> actually some one told me to go to www.kubuntu.org and get a ppa for firefox 3.6 and upgrade kde3.5 to kde4.? im looking on the site now...im a bit lost atm
[23:17] <Typos_King> soooo
[23:17] <Typos_King> ...
[23:17] <Typos_King> and upgrade... why?
[23:18] <Typos_King> why not install kubuntu 9.1, might as well
[23:18] <iconmefisto> zus: is that for firefox with kde integration?
[23:20] <zus> wanted to stay with the most recent stable release, firefox  is my main browser
[23:21] <Typos_King> soo
[23:21] <Typos_King> that'll be 9.1
[23:21] <Typos_King> :)
[23:21] <Typos_King> maybe you should just get 9.1 which comes with kde4
[23:23] <zus> i thought i seen kde 3.4  in one of the help menus
[23:23] <iconmefisto> zus: if you're going to upgrade, maybe wait till april when 10.04 will be released
[23:24] <zus> few more weeks, agree.
[23:27] <zus> when is lucid comming out?
[23:28] <zus> when in april
[23:28] <iconmefisto> zus: never any date. they always say "when it's ready"
[23:30] <James147> zus: It says the 29th on the release secedual but it can be late :)
[23:30] <zus> thank you all for the help and suggestions. i do appreciate it.
[23:31] <Dragnslcr> zus- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule is the complete schedule
[23:31] <zus> is it still going to be  "blue"?
[23:32] <James147> zus: Yes
[23:32] <James147> zus: Unless they go to major changes in the last minute, which is very unlikly :p
[23:34] <zus> i love the mints color scheme. bright enough, yet dark enough. green and grey are my fave colors blue is also but  this is too much blue lol
[23:35] <James147> zus: :) at least its not hard to change all the colours
[23:37] <zus> no my gnome session is green...then i found out about mint... and that theyre also not ubuntu... there is so many choices,..and so much to learn.
[23:38] <iconmefisto> zus: if you want to learn, ubuntu is a good choice. it has great support forums
[23:40] <zus> yea, i like ubuntu...the  Kde though, what sold me was the different views when managing files. didnt hurt that it was blue too, feels more "me" i dont have to use a wallpaper to get comfy either.
[23:41] <Matisse> Typos_King, didnt help (crashing kwin   -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kwin)
[23:41] <damien__> what is the best gome or kde?
[23:42] <Matisse> damien__, windows
[23:43] <genii> !best
[23:43] <Guest77693> chrome installation prob: following directions, double-clicking chrome in downloads window of ffox spawns choose "application  to open"
[23:44] <genii> damien__: Depending on your workflow, aesthetics, and other considerations, the desktop environment which fits you could be anything (KDE, GNOME, XFCE, Enlightenment, etc)
[23:45] <James147> Guest77693: try clicking it in dolphin
[23:45] <James147> Guest77693: Or try opening it with "gdebi-kde"
[23:45] <iconmefisto> Guest77693: the app to open would be /usr/bin/gdebi-kde
[23:47] <Matisse> genii, #ubuntu-bots is cool :)
[23:53] <mrunagi> kubuntu have issues with secured wireless on hp dv6000t?
[23:53] <damien__> i search a cubeinterface  for gnome
[23:54] <PsychoticEGG> I have a 32" HDTV that is set as my one and only monitor and the Resolution isn't fitting in it properly. any way to manually resize would be handy. Input is DVI to HDMI from and Nvidia 9800 GSO
[23:54] <PsychoticEGG> The top and bottom bars are just out of sight
[23:55] <PsychoticEGG> I assume same for left and right
[23:55] <James147> PsychoticEGG: System settings-> Display    if you cant do it there then you might need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:55] <zus> i cant log into the kubuntu forums with my ubuntu  name and pass could i?
[23:55] <zus> ubuntu forum** ^
[23:55] <PsychoticEGG> ya can't do it in display.
[23:56] <damien__> who i find the sources.list of bt4
[23:56] <PsychoticEGG> even after installing nvidia drivers
[23:56] <PsychoticEGG> how do I edit it?
[23:57] <James147> PsychoticEGG: The esiest way with nvidia is to use nvidia-settings (run as root)
[23:57] <PsychoticEGG> O.o? I'm new to ubuntu and never had this with windows. so don't know how.
[23:58] <James147> PsychoticEGG: in konsole or krunner type "kdesudo nvidia-settings"
[23:58] <PsychoticEGG> terminal?
[23:58] <James147> PsychoticEGG: yes
[23:59] <genii> terminal/console/konsole equally
[23:59] <PsychoticEGG> The program 'kdesudo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[23:59] <PsychoticEGG> sudo apt-get install kdesudo
[23:59] <PsychoticEGG> kdesudo: command not found
[23:59] <damien__> i want to change the color terminal