[19:07] <PlasmaSheep> Hey, I need help installing picard. Libavformat-dev is one of the dependencies (I'm building the source since the deb acted weird), but upon trying to install it I get E: Broken packages. I follow the trail of broken packages and find that the ultimate dependency wants to uninstall a crapload of stuff from my computer. http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/741/screenshotmusicbrainzpi.png
[19:07] <stef11> is there an easy way to recover it :/
[19:07] <imperfect-> tux_: Those are Segway
[19:07] <Myrtti> Hetor: what are you trying to do?
[19:07] <tux_> imperfect-: thank you man :)
[19:07] <lucian> hey how can i get the full pack flashplayer for s..
[19:07] <lucian>  ho itzi called
[19:07] <imperfect-> tux_: I googled it. You should try it ;)
[19:08] <lucian> hey
[19:08] <lucian>  comeone
[19:08] <stef11> I ran a utility on windows where I could see the raw content and it's there alright I could see parts of files etc
[19:08] <stef11> so it's not gone
[19:08] <Flannel> PlasmaSheep: What is that ultimate dependency? or whatever the last one (or few) you get to are?
[19:08] <lucian>  someone tell me a good source for flashplayer
[19:09] <imperfect-> stef11: chkdsk ?
[19:09] <Myrtti> !flash > lucian
[19:09] <lucian> whot private message?
[19:09] <stef11> no a recovery program
[19:09] <stef11> but it would only recover 200kb :/
[19:10] <stef11> unless i pay $$
[19:10] <lucian> ow now i recived
[19:10] <SandGorgon> what is the .cache folder in ubuntu used for ?
[19:10] <wubrgamer> SandGorgon, various programs use it for local caching of information
[19:10] <wubrgamer> look inside, you'll figure it out
[19:10] <wubrgamer> it's similar to .config
[19:10] <lutter> salur
[19:10] <wubrgamer> just various programs that use it
[19:10] <PlasmaSheep> Flannel: libavcodec-dev > libavutil-dev > libavutil49
[19:10] <lutter> hello
[19:11] <imperfect-> SandGorgon: I'm gonna go withc caching ;)
[19:11] <ewsubach> imperfect-: i don't suppose just deleting or changing file permissions of the device file would work to disable the webcam??
[19:11] <DavidePalm> Hey, I'm trying to play DVDs on Ubuntu, and I can't seem to play them... Totem Movie Player gives an internal error.  So I downloaded KMplayer, and whenever I try to open a DVD it says on the bottom (mplayer not running) or (xine not running)  Any ideas?
[19:11] <imperfect-> ewsubach: All you gotta do is see which module is keeping it alive and blacklist
[19:11] <imperfect-> ewsubach: I think udev re-creating the dev's anyway on boot
[19:11] <Hetor> nvm, figured it out
[19:12] <webpigeon_laptop> FloodBot3 removes channel operator status from FloodBot1 < floodbot fwar?
[19:12] <Myrtti> webpigeon_laptop: normal functionality
[19:12] <DavidePalm> !dvd
[19:12] <stef11> imperfect-: the usb drive was in my pc when i installed ubuntu what can I do?
[19:12] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: download the packages that let you play encrypted dvds. then try mplayer, it should work
[19:12] <webpigeon_laptop> Myrtti, okay :), not usally in this channel, usally stick to my loco :P
[19:12] <DavidePalm> ewsubach what are those packages?
[19:12] <imperfect-> DVD: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-play-dvd-under-ubuntu-linux
[19:13] <DavidePalm> ok thanks imperfect- I'll check it out
[19:13] <Myrtti> webpigeon_laptop: I know ;-)
[19:13] <imperfect-> DavidePalm: It's considered -unfree-.
[19:13] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: not sure offhand, but if you go to add/remove software search "dvd" it should be there
[19:13] <PlasmaSheep> Hey, I need help installing picard. Libavformat-dev is one of the dependencies (I'm building the source since the deb acted weird), but upon trying to install it I get E: Broken packages. I follow the trail of broken packages and find that the ultimate dependency wants to uninstall a crapload of stuff from my computer. http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/741/screenshotmusicbrainzpi.png
[19:14] <Flannel> PlasmaSheep: libavutil49 shouldn't be trying to remove half the system.  Please pastebin the output of the following: apt-cache policy libavutil49 libc6 && sudo apt-get install --simulate libavutil49
[19:15] <mykas0> hi everyone
[19:15] <murielgodoi> hi
[19:15] <quizme> does anybody know how to install a windows program in Wine?
[19:15] <Chaorain> Can some one help me? I need to reinstall grub on /sdd1    I'm on a 9.04 live cd. Help?
[19:16] <Chaorain> oh sory. sdc1
[19:16] <mykas0> I kinda need some help on how to upgrade ubuntu from the second-to-last version to the latest one, can anyone help me?
[19:16] <PlasmaSheep> Flannel: http://paste2.org/p/264552
[19:16] <Flannel> !upgrade | mykas0
[19:16] <imperfect-> mykas0: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; do-release-upgrade ?
[19:16] <RickX> I'd like to install Ubuntu on one HD,  but keep my present grub/mbr. Can anyone point me to docs on how to do that, or explain it?
[19:16] <Ben24> quizme: right click on the installer.exe and select open with other and then type in custom command section "wine"
[19:16] <mykas0> imperfect, unfortunately... I cannot download it
[19:17] <webpigeon_laptop> DavidePalm, you can install install ubuntu-restricted-extras, you'll get mp3 playback and windows fonts, as well as flash
[19:17] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: something like libcss is what you need. the only player i found that works with this is mplayer. then in mplayer, right click and select play dvd. no fancy menu except playing by title sections
[19:17] <mykas0> hum, Flannel, I'll try that one, thanks
[19:17] <murielgodoi> my ubuntu is taking too long to print a paper model in pdf file. gs process is using 100% of my core2duo for several minutes before print only 7 pages ... is that common?
[19:17] <DavidePalm> ya ewsubach that's fine but I cant seem to get it to work still trying...
[19:18] <DavidePalm> webpigeon_laptop is that a package? ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[19:18] <webpigeon_laptop> DavidePalm, yep
[19:18] <imperfect-> mykas0: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[19:18] <imperfect-> mykas0: Look at the section about not using a download
[19:18] <webpigeon_laptop> DavidePalm, will, meta package, means it installs quite a few packages :P
[19:18] <webpigeon_laptop> well*
[19:18] <mykas0> imperfect-, yes, that's what I'll be trying to follow, thank you
[19:18] <imperfect-> mykas0: need the alternate image
[19:19] <webpigeon_laptop> Don't you just love DRM
[19:19] <DavidePalm> webpigeon_laptop, ok installing it...
[19:19] <Eslu> DRM <3
[19:19] <mykas0> ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso won't work, then?
[19:19] <commodore256> Yeah, DRM fills my pockets with cash
[19:20] <commodore256> lol, jk
[19:20] <Flannel> PlasmaSheep: Alright, lets take a look at these then.  Please pastebin the output of the following: apt-cache policy ffmpeg libavutil-unstripped-49 picard
[19:20] <imperfect-> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[19:20] <webpigeon_laptop> The only DRM i like is DanielRM xD
[19:20] <ewsubach> webpigeon_laptop, DavidePalm : just so you know, the restricted extras doesn't let you play "encrypted" dvds. you can play ones without it. from descrip: does not install libdvdcss2, and will not let you play encrypted DVDs
[19:21] <DavidePalm> ewsubach so how do I play encrypted dvds? is there a way?
[19:21] <commodore256> sudo rm DRM
[19:21] <ha1331_> is there way to know what causes the load on my computer? Experiencing 2.1 loads, no thing seems to use processor or memory?
[19:21] <PlasmaSheep> Flannel: http://paste2.org/p/264555
[19:21] <webpigeon_laptop> ewsubach, okay, just a thought, might be worth installing it just incase the DVD is not inecripted
[19:21] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: you have to install libdvdcss2
[19:21] <DavidePalm> ewsubach encripted dvds =  most regular dvds?
[19:21] <mykas0> imperfect-, while we're at it, let me ask - afterall, what's the difference between the 'normal' image, i.e. ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso, and the alternate one?
[19:21] <DavidePalm> ah ok
[19:21] <UbuntuBoy> Hello
[19:21] <mneptok> DavidePalm: the simple solution is "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[19:21] <Chaorain> What is the command to reinstall grub on sdc1?
[19:21] <webpigeon_laptop> DavidePalm, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[19:22] <imperfect-> Desktop is a Live CD. Boot it up and you'll log into a Gnome desktop. You can give everything a test drive. If you want to install, there's an install icon with a GUI install.
[19:22] <imperfect-> Alternate is the old way of installing. No live CD. Install to hard drive via and old style install,
[19:22] <UbuntuBoy> I Use Jaunty Jackalope But the Programs made whit Python don't working correctly
[19:22] <imperfect-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220850
[19:22] <webpigeon_laptop> Chaorain, http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[19:22] <mykas0> imperfect-, so, I can't really upgrade using the normal CD?
[19:22] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: once you get libdvdcss2 it should work fine. you don't need restricted extras, in fact, i don't even have them. hope it works for you
[19:23] <imperfect-> mykas0: not according to ubuntu.com -- shrug. I think they'd know ;)
[19:23] <Flannel> mykas0: only the alternate CDs, correct.
[19:23] <Flannel> mykas0: (well, and then the internet)
[19:23] <UbuntuBoy>  I Use Jaunty Jackalope But the Programs made whit Python don't working correctly
[19:23] <imperfect-> Flannel: he can't download for some reason.
[19:23] <macBusy> Hello, I want to start a mailing list for an organization. I want to use Mailman, but not set up my own server. Is there a server that just _everybody_ uses? Thanks.
[19:23] <mykas0> hum.... ok. It sounds strange to me, but you guys know it better than me :P
[19:23] <webpigeon_laptop> Charoin, thats for redhat but it's basiclly the same 3 steps
[19:23] <imperfect-> I just want my sata performance to stop sucking.
[19:23] <imperfect-> quick someone fix it
[19:23] <quizme> ben24: thanks a lot!
[19:23] <DavidePalm> ewsubach well I"m installing the restricted extras... will they give me some other fun capabilities?
[19:23] <DavidePalm> :)
[19:23] <gynergie> i need to know how to copie with the cp command
[19:23] <webpigeon_laptop> DavidePalm, yep, quite a lot in there :P
[19:24] <gynergie> i dont understand how
[19:24] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: "support for MP3 playback and decoding, support for various other audio formats (GStreamer plugins), Microsoft fonts, Java runtime environment, Flash plugin"
[19:24] <Myrtti> gynergie: which part don't you understand?
[19:24] <murielgodoi> gynergie: try man cp
[19:24] <Reysan> cp from to
[19:24] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: so, in short, yes :)
[19:24] <UbuntuBoy>  I Use Jaunty Jackalope But the Programs made whit Python don't working correctly
[19:24] <UbuntuBoy> plaizz help
[19:24] <imperfect-> blah
[19:25] <mykas0> well, thanks for your help, imperfect- ;)
[19:25] <ewsubach> UbuntuBoy: what do you mean? programs you made or just programs that use python don't work?
[19:25] <gynergie> i go in the folder where i want to copie files with cd command, but after, i write the name of the file, but what if i have more than one file to copie
[19:25] <caecus> Hi all, I have installed a fresh version of ubuntu-server 9.04 and mounted some cifs shares. They work and I can make new files, however, I can't write any new content to them. This works when connecting to the shares from other machines. Any ideas?
[19:25] <UbuntuBoy> programs that use python im sorry im not good in english
[19:25] <ewsubach> macBusy: if you want a mailserver, sendmail or exim is good
[19:26] <webpigeon_laptop> UbuntuBoy what programs?
[19:26] <mmm4m5m> question please: 'xdg-open http://...' open firefox BUT 'xdg-open file://...' open w3m. How to fix this?
[19:26] <ewsubach> UbuntuBoy: does an error show up when you try to run it?
[19:26] <UbuntuBoy> don't work correctly like Emesene and Jokosher
[19:26] <WIGGMPk> can anyone suggest a good game??
[19:26] <webpigeon_laptop> UbuntuBoy what about them doesn't wory correctly?
[19:27] <webpigeon_laptop> WIGGMPk, what kind of game?
[19:27] <UbuntuBoy> Always Block
[19:27] <Hetor> WIGGMPk: Skulltag, Nexuiz, OpenArena, Quake3TA ;)
[19:27] <webpigeon_laptop> UbuntuBoy, sorry, i don't understand what you mean
[19:27] <WIGGMPk> webpigeon_laptop: RPG or Strategy
[19:27] <ewsubach> UbuntuBoy: do error messages show up when you run the program?
[19:27] <PlasmaSheep> Hey, I need help installing picard. Libavformat-dev is one of the dependencies (I'm building the source since the deb acted weird), but upon trying to install it I get E: Broken packages. I follow the trail of broken packages and find that the ultimate dependency wants to uninstall a crapload of stuff from my computer. http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/741/screenshotmusicbrainzpi.png
[19:27] <gynergie> why at each time i ask a question in french ubuntu chat or here, they just refer me in static help page, if i come to ask it because i dont understand the static exemple
[19:28] <webpigeon_laptop> WIGGMPk, check out warzone-2100 and UFO: Alien Invasion
[19:28] <ewsubach> !fr | gynergie
[19:28] <UbuntuBoy> no i don't have any message but the screen of Emesene Freez
[19:28] <Myrtti> gynergie: copy -R nameofthefolder target?
[19:28] <WIGGMPk> webpigeon_laptop: k thanks
[19:28] <WIGGMPk> Hetor: thanks for the suggestions
[19:28] <webpigeon_laptop> UbuntuBoy, does rhythmbox work?
[19:28] <gynergie> i speak english because i am in english chat
[19:28] <UbuntuBoy> yes RythmBox Work correctly
[19:29] <UbuntuBoy> But Jokocher and Emesene frezz always
[19:29] <Flannel> PlasmaSheep: alright, can you please pastebin this output: apt-cache show libavcodec-unstripped-52
[19:29] <webpigeon_laptop> UbuntuBoy, Hardy or ibex?
[19:29] <UbuntuBoy> Jaunty
[19:30] <PlasmaSheep> Flannel: http://paste2.org/p/264560
[19:30] <webpigeon_laptop> UbuntuBoy, of course, sorry still working on last year, xD rightyo, try running emesense via terminal, do you know how to do that?
[19:30] <gynergie> can you give me an exemple please
[19:30] <mmm4m5m> anyone about xdg-open please? 'xdg-open file://' for userA open firefox, but for userB open w3m. How to change it to firefox as default?
[19:30] <gynergie> i need an exemple please
[19:31] <DavidePalm> ewsubach, webpigeon_laptop, "livdvdcss2 is not available but is referred to by another package.  This may mean the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source."
[19:31] <ewsubach> gynergie: so you want to copy a bunch of files to one place?
[19:31] <gynergie> yes
[19:31] <webpigeon_laptop> DavidePalm, sorry, try looking in medibunut for it :P
[19:31] <gynergie> give me an exemple please
[19:31] <crdlb> mmm4m5m: what desktop environment?
[19:31] <webpigeon_laptop> !medibuntu | DavidePalm
[19:31] <UbuntuBoy> Yes i No Alt+F↓
[19:31] <ewsubach> gynergie: type cp -t directoryToPutFiles src1 src2 src3...
[19:32] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: gnome. 'xdg-open http://...' works correct for both users.
[19:32] <netp> Hi! Anyone here is using vim with latex-suite on Mac OS X?
[19:32] <gynergie> ok i try
[19:32] <UbuntuBoy> telle me how to run emesene in terminal
[19:32] <webpigeon_laptop> UbuntuBoy, not quite what i ment, applications->accessries->terminal and type in emesene
[19:32] <UbuntuBoy> ok
[19:32] <bullgard4> [Ekiga] What does 'GM' stand for in the identifiers 'GMSIPEndpoint', 'GMManager', and 'GMPCSSEndpoint'?
[19:32] <PlasmaSheep> Hey, I need help installing picard. Libavformat-dev is one of the dependencies (I'm building the source since the deb acted weird), but upon trying to install it I get E: Broken packages. I follow the trail of broken packages and find that the ultimate dependency wants to uninstall a crapload of stuff from my computer. http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/741/screenshotmusicbrainzpi.png
[19:32] <crdlb> mmm4m5m: then change the association in system > preferences > preferred applications
[19:33] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: 'xdg-mime' does not help... works only for files. alternatives x-www-browser in /etc is correct
[19:33] <UbuntuBoy> im run it now
[19:33] <UbuntuBoy> what's the next
[19:33] <webpigeon_laptop> UbuntuBoy, after it crashes, the terminal window should then fill with messages, !pastebin them as we'll see if we can find it whats going on.
[19:33] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: prefered applications are correct for both users. Also firefox setting "default browser" is yes for both users.
[19:33] <webpigeon_laptop> !pastebin | UbuntuBoy
[19:33] <zimala> slut
[19:34] <crdlb> mmm4m5m: does it work if you run gnome-open directly?
[19:34] <gartral> I can't copy/paste or see properties on *ANY* file or directory.. I have tried my home.. i tryed /var, I can't even read off my flashdrive
[19:34] <UbuntuBoy> ok
[19:34] <Flannel> PlasmaSheep: alright.  I *think* I've found the package thats causing the removals: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libavcodec-unstripped-52 that has some odd depends (it depends on the same package twice, with different versions)
[19:34] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: i know you're pain. they make it so hard to do...i remember that what I did was search for the package online and did manual install. it is a bit of trouble but the .deb install is automated
[19:34] <Neji123> hey ppl, if anyone got time I could use a little help
[19:35] <gartral> !ask | Neji123
[19:35] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: yes, gnome-open works. The only link which point to w3m in /etc/alternatives is www-browser (not x-www-browser).
[19:35] <Neji123> ^
[19:35] <crdlb> mmm4m5m: then figure out why the /usr/bin/xdg-open script is not running gnome-open
[19:35] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: I need to fix xdg-open, because it is used from lazarus and it does not open in browser.
[19:35] <UbuntuBoy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/195149/
[19:35] <UbuntuBoy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/195149/
[19:36] <bunson> Hi ubuntians .. quick question .. when i restart my ubu 8.10 system my usb webcam light comes on and stays on untill i unplug it and plug it back in. is there a way to restart the webcam without unplugging it so i can use it? once unpluged and plugged back in the light turns off and the camera works great
[19:36] <Neji123> hehe, okay, well I cant get my sound to work in ubuntu to play mp3 files and stuff, I know the sound works cause I can hear it when i log out, but not on movies or youtube or anything.
[19:36] <PlasmaSheep> Flannel: What do I do?
[19:36] <crdlb> mmm4m5m: the logic is pretty simple: it checks for KDE_FULL_SESSION and GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID in the environment
[19:36] <crdlb> mmm4m5m: make sure the former is not set and the latter is
[19:36] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: here it is, dude: http://packages.medibuntu.org/jaunty/libdvdcss2.html download and install :)
[19:37] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: ah, it is script... them let me check. thanks a lot
[19:37] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: assuming you're using jaunty
[19:37] <UbuntuBoy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/195149/
[19:37] <gartral> bunson man rmmod
[19:37] <webpigeon_laptop> UbuntuBoy, that looks fine,
[19:37] <Flannel> PlasmaSheep: You might go to #ubuntu-motu and ask them to take a look at it.  If nothing else, they may have more luck than I do figuring out why its trying to remove that stuff.
[19:38] <bunson> .. the ehci_opi mod form dmesg?
[19:38] <ghostlines> does anyone have openvpn working with an existing bridge setup?
[19:38] <PlasmaSheep> Flannel: will do, thanks
[19:38] <UbuntuBoy> yes it's working now but when im start a firefox session it's freez
[19:38] <DavidePalm> ewsubach, I followed the instructions on www.medibuntu.org, and I installed libdvdcss2.  I"m restarting right now let's see if it works
[19:38] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: cool. good luck!
[19:39] <gartral> bunson: lsmod | grep webcam might point you in the right direction
[19:39] <bunson> gartral is there a specific mod i should use the rmmod on?
[19:39] <bunson> ty gartal
[19:39] <Neji123> I cant get my sound to work in ubuntu to play mp3 files and stuff, I know the sound works cause I can hear it when i log out, but not on movies or youtube or anything. Anyone know what may be causing this, and possible fix?
[19:39] <DavidePalm> ewsubach man this is really tough... why not just include all the libs necessary with a video player that you download?
[19:39] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: legal reasons.
[19:39] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: any software that breaks the encryption on DVDs is technically illegal
[19:40] <DavidePalm> well then how do you download a dvd playing software for windows so easily? is that illegal as well?
[19:40] <webpigeon_laptop> UbuntuBoy, well try that and see what is says
[19:40] <bunson> gartral .. would rmmod on the pwc work?
[19:41] <Hodapp> DavidePalm: Well, some of the software can be "licensed".
[19:41] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: that's a good question and the answer is I don't know. i don't think it's the software, it's the libraries that decode it.
[19:41] <Hodapp> DavidePalm: The moral of the story is that the DMCA is bullshit.
[19:41] <raboof> i have an application which is pulling 100% cpu
[19:41] <Hodapp> DavidePalm: And in other news, DRM doesn't hurt pirates one bit but it does turn paying customers into pirates.
[19:42] <DavidePalm> Hodapp LOL I see
[19:42] <raboof> i noticed about 75% is spent in kernel, so i ran it with 'strace'
[19:42] <tonyf12> I tried to install bugzilla3, now my package manager doesn't work. The GUI tells me to run sudo apt-get install -f, and when I do that, I get this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/195153/
[19:42] <raboof> strace output shows a *lot* of failing read activity on file descriptor 3
[19:42] <raboof> lsof shows 'jost      32192    arnouten    3u     unix 0xf31c6680              510524 socket'
[19:42] <raboof> how do I find out more about this socket?
[19:42] <DavidePalm> well... ewsubach, webpigeon_laptop, Hodapp,  SUCCESS!!!!  It plays!! :) :D  <3 <3 <3
[19:43] <DavidePalm> TY SO MUCH!
[19:43] <bullgard4> [Ekiga] What does 'GM' stand for in the identifiers 'GMSIPEndpoint', 'GMManager', and 'GMPCSSEndpoint'?
[19:43] <ewsubach> DavidePalm: sweet. np
[19:43] <Neji123> no-one knows? :s
[19:43] <webpigeon_laptop> DavidePalm, \o/
[19:43] <ewsubach>          /\
[19:43] <ewsubach> too bad, tried to complete the guy raising his arms in triumph on next line
[19:43] <DaveS> Is anyone aware of any tools specifically designed to aid in converting sql-server metadata tables into an arbitrary format of my choosing?
[19:45] <webpigeon_laptop> DaveS mysqldump?
[19:45] <webpigeon_laptop> DaveS, failing that you could try some stuff written in php, like phpmyadmin
[19:45] <DavidePalm> hey this is totally of topic... webpigeon_laptop, do you have any idea how to get wine fonts to be legible?  everytime I start wine anything in the programs or the wine config is illegible.
[19:46] <DaveS> webpigeon: I'm thinking more of an ORM tool
[19:46] <DaveS> only the "Object" part of this is for a very specific DSL
[19:46] <marex> I tried to install cmake with apt-get install cmake. I need at least version 2.6 but it installs only version 2.4.7. how can I force apt-get to install the latest version of cmake?
[19:47] <webpigeon_laptop> DavidePalm, did you just install ubuntu restricted extras?
[19:47] <gartral> bunson: what camera do you got?
[19:47] <webpigeon_laptop> DavidePalm, if yes, any beter?
[19:47] <DaveS> yeah, mysqldump is not what I'm looking for
[19:47] <webpigeon_laptop> DaveS, can't say i'm going to be much help then
[19:48] <DaveS> thanks anyway
[19:48] <DavidePalm> webpigeon_laptop I did install that, and after what you told me earlier, I had hoped that it would be better... but no. :(
[19:49] <webpigeon_laptop> DavidePalm, hmm :(, they've always been pretty ugly, but they have been legable :/
[19:50] <Neji123> I cant get my sound to work in ubuntu to play mp3 files and stuff, I know the sound works cause I can hear it when i log out, but not on movies or youtube or anything. Anyone know what may be causing this, and possible fix?
[19:50] <DavidePalm> webpigeon_laptop yeah.. I cannot read anything at all it is impossible to read...
[19:50] <Dethroned> I saved the .run file for Wolfenstein ET to my desktop.  How do I run it?
[19:50] <Paradigm_Shift> webpigeon_laptop and DavidePalm: How about installing msttcorefonts?
[19:50] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:50] <tonyf12> I tried to install bugzilla3, now my package manager doesn't work. The GUI tells me to run sudo apt-get install -f, and when I do that, I get this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/195153/ . I can't install anything now. How can I fix this?
[19:50] <webpigeon_laptop> Paradigm_Shift, i thought that restricted extras did that but give it a go
[19:51] <bkraptor> any chance of having firefox 3.5 release candidate in the repository once it's up for download @mozilla?
[19:51] <Neji123> alright thanks, gonna try that
[19:51] <Paradigm_Shift> pigeon_laptop: well, that can be verified by trying to install - sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[19:51] <Eslu> What kind of software are there for Ubuntu, for remote acess? As in Windows 7?
[19:51] <Paradigm_Shift> not sure about the s at the end
[19:51] <Eslu> For Windows to Ubuntu*
[19:52] <bullgard4> Neji123:  If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3."
[19:52] <Flannel> bkraptor: Not for Jaunty, possibly for Karmic
[19:52] <webpigeon_laptop> Eslu, VLC anddd ssh :)
[19:52] <DavidePalm> webpigeon_laptop how do I install those?
[19:52] <Eslu> VLC is with gui right?
[19:52] <Neji123> thanks again
[19:52] <bunson> how do i turn off a mod thats being used usb webcam stuck on
[19:52] <Guest98640> no matter what distro i try,i get no options on ititial boot screen.i get no cheat options?any help please
[19:52] <Froogle> can anyone enlighten me as to why I get this when trying to open local connections to my host?
[19:52] <webpigeon_laptop> Elsu, vlc is working on the mashine's desktop, so yes
[19:53] <Froogle> [17:41:41][09-06-13]%>telnet -d localhost 143
[19:53] <Froogle> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[19:53] <Froogle> setsockopt (SO_DEBUG): Permission denied
[19:53] <bullgard4> Eslu: 'Remote Desktop'
[19:53] <webpigeon_laptop> Elsu, although you can foword GUI programs over ssh :P
[19:53] <Eslu> Yeah, but im new to linux. Don't understand its commandoes and such.
[19:53] <Paradigm_Shift> DavidePalm: fastest and easiest is to enter the following at a command prompt: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[19:53] <Froogle> how can I be denied openeing a socket as root?
[19:53] <Froogle> or changing socket options
[19:53] <webpigeon_laptop> DavidePalm, the ms fonts? sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[19:53] <Froogle> ?
[19:54] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, are you root? and is the port open?
[19:54] <Froogle> yeah, it works from all hosts outside my little vm
[19:55] <Froogle> I can telnet out
[19:55] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, are you sure there is not something blocking the connection to the port?
[19:55] <webpigeon_laptop> locally i mean
[19:55] <Froogle> but just not to my own box
[19:55] <webpigeon_laptop> are you running a telnet deamon?
[19:55] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: no....
[19:56] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle then what are you trying to telnet into?
[19:56] <Froogle> I was telneting to IMAP
[19:56] <Froogle> using telnet too troubleshoot
[19:56] <Froogle> I can telnet to other hosts
[19:56] <Froogle> and I have flushed iptables a few times now
[19:56] <webpigeon_laptop> you have an imap server running on your mashin?
[19:56] <Sephiroth> Well this is fun, I fixed the error 5 on my system, but now I'm getting an error 17 on grub. Any ideas on a fix?
[19:56] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: indeed
[19:56] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: it answers to everything else
[19:56] <Froogle> and so does lighttpd
[19:56] <Froogle> just nothing works from the actual box
[19:57] <Froogle> due to this socketopt permission denied thing
[19:57] <webpigeon_laptop> okay, strange, it looks like outgoing/incoming connections to localhost are being denied by the mashine, not the user
[19:57] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, check your hosts.deny make sure that localhost isn't on your deny list
[19:57] <cankoy> tonyf12: it seems you have mysql-5.1 installed. It's conflicting with bugzilla's mysql-5.0 requirement.
[19:58] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: it's blank
[19:58] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: doesn't SO_DEBUG look like a glibc issue?
[19:58] <dagnachew> hi all
[19:58] <dagnachew> anyone here from africa ?
[19:58] <caecus> Hi all, I have installed a fresh version of ubuntu-server 9.04 and mounted some cifs shares. They work and I can make new files, however, I can't write any new content to them. This works when connecting to the shares from other machines. Any ideas?
[19:58] <BaTHoRy> yes i am from kenya
[19:58] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, no, still might be that the port is refusing a connection
[19:59] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, any kind of firewall running on the mashine?
[19:59] <webpigeon_laptop> Or maybe SELinux
[19:59] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: iptables with rules from fail2ban
[19:59] <Froogle> no apparmor or selinux
[20:00] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle and your sure localhost is not blacklisted in someway?
[20:00] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: like where?
[20:00] <tonyf12> cankoy: How do I fix it?
[20:00] <Froogle> I have checked everywhere it would be
[20:00] <Froogle> iptables/hosts.deny
[20:00] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle the imap deamon it's self?
[20:00] <cankoy> tonyf12: will it be a prob. if you downgrade mysql to 5.0?
[20:01] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: well it's not just imap, it's http and https too
[20:01] <Froogle> http://pastebin.ca/1459087
[20:01] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: I login as userA but run lazarus (xdg-open) as userB. So, no gnome session for userB. Still wondering 'xdg-open http://' works (x-www-browser), but 'xdg-open file://' does not work (www-browser). Both are URL, why they are different types?
[20:01] <Froogle> that is iptables and the route table
[20:01] <tonyf12> cankoy: Nope, other than I don't know how to downgrade a package.
[20:01] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, can you open the http connection in your browser? http://localhost ?
[20:02] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: lol I don't have a browser on there, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work
[20:02] <Sephiroth> Ok, lemme just refresh your memories, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 onto my computer, so I went in, created a new ext3 partition, set it up as / on install, had an error 5 upon reboot. So I tried it again, and now I'm getting error 17 on reboot. Is there any way to fix an error 17 message when grub is giving me that error?
[20:02] <Froogle> let me try with lynx
[20:02] <crdlb> mmm4m5m: why would you run a GUI app as a different user?
[20:02] <Froogle> yeah that fails
[20:02] <cankoy> tonyf12: you just remove mysql-5.1, then 'apt-get -f install' should do the rest. But, first do 'apt-get clean', then apt-get update, then remove mysql-5.1
[20:02] <Guest89503>  IT ITCHES SO BAD
[20:03] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, then it seems like it's refusing connections from localhost, don't ask me why though
[20:03] <Froogle> lol
[20:03] <Froogle> I am pretty sure it's an issue with opening connections
[20:03] <Froogle> but I don't really know
[20:03] <gartral> pinning
[20:03] <gartral> !pinning
[20:03] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, can you access the http deamon from another mashine?
[20:03] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: yes
[20:03] <Froogle> everything works from outside this box
[20:03] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: it is convinient (using 'xhost +si:localuser:userB)
[20:04] <Pirate_Hunter> is there a gmail drive for linux that actually works and not the firefox extension?
[20:04] <Froogle> email/http/fail2ban
[20:04] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, try using the boxes internal IP address from the mashine eg. lynx <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:04] <Froogle> doesn't matter
[20:04] <crdlb> mmm4m5m: but why it use useful?
[20:04] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, so that doesn't work either?
[20:04] <bullgard4> [Ekiga] What does 'GM' stand for in the identifiers 'GMSIPEndpoint', 'GMManager', and 'GMPCSSEndpoint'?
[20:04] <Froogle> I can go to the IP/hostname, I can bind to the external IP, nothing works :/
[20:05] <Froogle> err I tried thoose
[20:05] <bartek> I formatted an old NTFS partition to ext4 but I can't seem to mount it. Any idea where I can start to troubleshoot this?
[20:05] <Dethroned> I'm trying to install wolfenstein ET but it says I don't have write permission to save it
[20:05] <ghostlines> does anyone have openvpn working with an existing bridge setup?
[20:05] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, can it connect to other mashines?
[20:05] <julius> hi
[20:06] <Froogle> [/var/run/network][18:02:19][09-06-13]#>telnet -d -b 67.222.XX.XX localhost 143
[20:06] <Froogle> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[20:06] <Froogle> setsockopt (SO_DEBUG): Permission denied
[20:06] <zleap> ok i got a jaunty install that is massivly slow
[20:06] <gartral> how do I revert a version of a program? [in my case, wine]
[20:06] <coz_> ghostlines,  if no one here try #linux channel
[20:06] <cankoy> tonyf12: package name's mysql-server-5.1
[20:06] <Froogle> yeah it connects to other machines fine
[20:06] <Froogle> and recently all the permissions got messed up
[20:06] <julius> where can i get the src package that was used for building some binary ubuntu package?  ive looked at http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mobile/ppa/ubuntu/dists/hardy/             but the files name Sources.gz, Packages.gz contain no data?
[20:06] <Froogle> so I had to redo them for /dev/null and a bunch of /var
[20:06] <Froogle> that is why I think it's permissions somewhere
[20:06] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: I have few restricted users, separate home dirs.. instead of login or switch user, this is how I do it. I do not know is it wrong, but I like it.
[20:06] <Froogle> not sure why root can't do it though :(
[20:07] <nperry> I've got an external hard drive which is plugged in all of the time, how can I make it mount at boot, rather than have to yank usb out to force a mount?
[20:07] <Froogle> nperry: fstab?
[20:07] <bartek> yay I got it :-)
[20:07] <tonyf12> cankoy: Thanks
[20:07] <nperry> !fstab
[20:08] <erUSUL> julius: add the deb-src repositorie and do apt-get source packagename
[20:08] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, its strange, i wouldn't expect a permissions issue to effect it like this, it'd be more likly to not connect to anything or not allow anything to connect to it
[20:08] <crdlb> mmm4m5m: well, xdg-open's open_generic function seems to do odd things with file:/// uris, but I guess you could artificially export GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID
[20:08] <nperry> Froogle, Will the uuid always stay the same?
[20:08] <Dethroned> I'm trying to install wolfenstein ET but it says I don't have write permission to save it
[20:08] <julius> erUSUL, im looking for a package that was made for hardy in the "ubuntu mobile ppa", but im currently running jaunty...is that a problem?
[20:08] <julius> erUSUL, is there no web interface?
[20:08] <Froogle> nperry: mount it with user permissions
[20:09] <Froogle> I forgot how to do that exactly though
[20:09] <erUSUL> julius: packages.ubuntu.com ?
[20:09] <Froogle> I think just chmod it when it's mounted
[20:09] <nperry> Froogle, any chance of an example?
[20:09] <rohan> is there any other native gnome feed reader apart from liferea?  liferea hangs too much while trying to update feeds, and it's  slow.
[20:09] <julius> erUSUL, does not search the ubuntu mobile ppa
[20:09] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: another option - for userB, change PATH and put there different odg-open?
[20:09] <rohan> also, i want to switch my tabs in gnome-terminal using ctrl-tab  and ctrl-shift-tab, but the "Edit -> Keyboard Shortcuts" menu  doesn't allow me to do that. any idea why?
[20:09] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: I think it might have something to the host machine, since this is a openvz guest
[20:09] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: I mean, xdg-open (sorry)
[20:09] <Froogle> nperry: http://google.com :?
[20:09] <Froogle> :/
[20:09] <crdlb> mmm4m5m: that would work, I guess ...
[20:10] <crdlb> mmm4m5m: assuming it doesn't run /usr/bin/xdg-open
[20:10] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, so the host mashine might be preventing the connections... take it there is nothing banned in the host mashine?
[20:10] <Sephiroth> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 onto my computer, so I went in, created a new ext3 partition, set it up as / on install, had an error 5 upon reboot. So I tried it again, and now I'm getting error 17 on reboot. Is there any way to fix an error 17 message when grub is giving me that error?
[20:10] <mmm4m5m> crdlb: right !! :) Ok, thanks a lot.
[20:11] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: I don't know that is the problem, it's a purcahsed vps
[20:11] <Froogle> I don't have host axx
[20:11] <julius> erUSUL, ah...just read the copying file in some binary package...looks like theres no source code from intel
[20:11] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, okay
[20:11] <Schuenemann> hey, who is using grub2?
[20:12] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, might be something strange they are doing?
[20:12] <webpigeon_laptop> Schuenemann, the very fact my computer boots with ext4 surgests i am :P
[20:12] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: yeah that is what I suspect, but I want to rule everything out before I hit them up with a ticket.
[20:13] <Neji123> hey just need someone to explain the meaing of: [Testing] [PCI] Card delivered to developers. Completely new architecture. Creative have supplied a data sheet to developers. Development work has started.Preliminary support need testers.The patch is now merged into sound-unstable GIT tree topic/ctxfi branch: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-unstable-2.6.git.The corresponding alsa-driver snapshot tarball is: ftp://
[20:13] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, i'm out of ideas, seems strange though
[20:13] <Froogle> webpigeon_laptop: well thanks :)
[20:13] <Froogle> I'll keep looking
[20:14] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, means they are testing whatever driver your looking at and they've put it in an unstable banch for testing
[20:14] <Neji123> so I can download it and try to see if it works?
[20:14] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, if your insane, you could compile the driver :P
[20:14] <Neji123> no im not ;p
[20:14] <nperry> Froogle,  this should be alright - UUID=55D123D9E79ABF54  /media/OneTouch 4  ntfs  user  0  0?
[20:15] <Froogle> uuuuh
[20:15] <dury> hi there channel :)
[20:15] <Froogle> not sure what is up with the UUID
[20:15] <Froogle> is that the dev?
[20:15] <Neji123> im just so confused that my sound works when I logout but not in anything else
[20:15] <M4vman> Anyone know anything about PHP Open Chat?
[20:15] <Froogle> nperry: usually the line is /dev/harddrive /media/mountpoint ntfs user 0 0
[20:15] <Sephiroth> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 onto my computer, so I went in, created a new ext3 partition, set it up as / on install, had an error 5 upon reboot. So I tried it again, and now I'm getting error 17 on reboot. Is there any way to fix an error 17 message when grub is giving me that error?
[20:15] <nperry> No dev is /dev/sdb1 but ubuntuwiki suggests using uuid
[20:16] <Froogle> nperry: yeah that was just an example
[20:16] <Froogle> but if the wiki says to use UUID, go for it
[20:16] <tntc> UUID is a lot nicer to use.
[20:16] <Froogle> see, I am just behind the times
[20:16] <dury> to see the distro it's lsb_release -a but there is another way with cat /etc/...... what I miss
[20:16] <Sephiroth> Ok, thanks!
[20:17] <nperry> Froogle, Thanks for the heads up anyway :)
[20:17] <Froogle> dury: cat /etc/issue
[20:17] <Sorinello> can somene tell me another good browser for Ubuntu, besides firefox ? I have a project to run, and I have to login from same machine, on the site using diffrent users
[20:17] <Froogle> nperry: no problem :)
[20:17] <Froogle> Sorinello: Opera
[20:17] <Sorinello> simultaneousley
[20:17] <Sorinello> apt-get install opera ?
[20:17] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, did you install ubuntu restricted extras?
[20:17] <Froogle> not sure
[20:17] <Froogle> think you have to get it from the website
[20:17] <Neji123> yes I did
[20:17] <Sorinello> okay
[20:17] <dury> Froogle: that's right, really appreciate it :D
[20:17] <webpigeon_laptop> Sorinello, oprea is not in the repo, it's closed sourse
[20:17] <Froogle> dury: no problem :)
[20:17] <Neji123> also rebooted my computer but was no difference
[20:18] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, do you get an error message or anything?
[20:18] <Neji123> not that I noticed
[20:18] <webpigeon_laptop> !pastebin your dmesg
[20:18] <webpigeon_laptop> !pastebin | Neji123
[20:19] <Acedip> tried installing Glib 2.19.10 but couldn't here is the make errors, http://paste.debian.net/39024/
[20:19] <Acedip> I'd actually like to upgrade to gtk 2.16 and it requires Glib 2.19 and above so need to do it. any help here?
[20:19] <Neji123> alright, what do you want me to do with that? heh
[20:19] <dury> Froogle: what about uname -a what are the differences?
[20:20] <Froogle> dury: uname -a will show the kernel
[20:20] <Froogle> and machine arch
[20:20] <Froogle> and some other info
[20:20] <nperry> Any idea on how to debug abobe air installer, im on 64bit, need to see the error message to know which libs i need :s
[20:20] <Shaba1> can anyone here answer and window and gparted question for me
[20:20] <mikejet> Is there an app that puts the number of new email messages inside the app's icon on the toolbar? (Like on OS X)
[20:20] <Neji123> webpigeon_laptop: what info do you need?
[20:20] <erUSUL> !info gnubiff
[20:21] <dury> Froogle: is there another command that show other info
[20:21] <erUSUL> !ask | Shaba1
[20:21] <Froogle> dury: what info are you looking for?
[20:21] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, run dmesg in terminal, it'll display anything important
[20:21] <Froogle> cat /proc/cpuinfo will show you cpu info
[20:21] <dury> Froogle: about the OS
[20:21] <Dethroned> how do I enable sound in Wolfenstein ET in 9.04?
[20:22] <hartmannp> test
[20:22] <Froogle> dury: like?
[20:22] <coz_> dury,   lsb_release -a     ?
[20:22] <coz_> durt,  you could also install hardinfo and a few other apps that give more detaled info if you dont want to use terminal
[20:22] <dury> Froogle: you already tell me cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:23] <dury> Froogle: sorry
[20:23] <Froogle> lol
[20:23] <Froogle> well whatever info you're looking for it's probably somewhere on your system
[20:23] <calmbola> does anyone know how i can change my firefox settings so that it doesn't automatically put me in offline mode if it "thinks" i'm not connected to a network?
[20:23] <dobre_zuo> how disable splash in grub2?
[20:24] <Eslu> Where can i format my HDDs in Linux? To EXT3?
[20:24] <edbian> Eslu: hello :)
[20:24] <sebsebseb> Eslu: not much point now
[20:24] <Neji123> webpigeon_laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/195173/
[20:24] <Eslu> ubuntu*
[20:24] <erUSUL> Eslu: use gparted
[20:24] <M4vman> gparted
[20:24] <Dethroned> how do I enable sound in Wolfenstein ET in 9.04?
[20:24] <sebsebseb> Eslu: Ext4 is pretty much stable now
[20:24] <Eslu> ah well EXT4 then
[20:24] <dury> Froogle: you right....., but you have to know the command
[20:24] <Eslu> okay ill check gparted btw
[20:24] <edbian> Eslu: Yes you want to use gparted.  A couple of things to remember: you cannot later partitions that you are mounted on.  EXT4 is stable :)
[20:24] <Shaba1> I have a windows xp machine with a 200gb HD. I want to install ubuntu server on 25 gb of that free space. But I have to have windwos for work. If I install ubuntu and I then use gparted livecd to get that space back to windows if I need to.?
[20:25] <Eslu> i installed samba,and cant find it under Applications tab
[20:25] <Eslu> where do i find it :p?
[20:25] <edbian> cannot alter paritions*
[20:25] <orinoco> anybody know how to enable external speakers in ubuntu?
[20:25] <tonyf12> I uninstalled mysql-server-5.1 and bugzilla3 is still complaing about downgrading from 5.1 -> 5.0 .
[20:25] <coz_> Shaba1,  do you have another hard driver you could attach ?
[20:25] <edbian> Shaba1: Yes but bare minimum ubuntu will need 2GB plus your files (and the new programs you install)
[20:26] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, there isn't anything in there that would make me think the sound isn't working :/
[20:26] <M4vman> You won't find it in application's eslu.
[20:26] <cedricshock>  #math
[20:26] <Shaba1> NO
[20:26] <M4vman> I believe it's just a protocol that operates in the background.
[20:26] <Neji123> maybe its something simple that I have forgot to do? Im new to linux and may have missed something
[20:26] <Shaba1> another HD is not a solution
[20:26] <coz_> Shaba1,   ok
[20:26] <Shaba1> had to be on this HD
[20:26] <Shaba1> neither is and external HD
[20:26] <Eslu> doh, so i cant chooser my workgroup anywhere m4vman?
[20:26] <Eslu> choose*
[20:27] <edbian> Eslu: Not all apps have GUI (like samba) that doesn't mean you can't run it / configure it / use it
[20:27] <M4vman> You should be able to, there's just not a way to open it directly from applications.
[20:27] <orinoco> anybody know how to enable external speakers in ubuntu?
[20:27] <Stronze> can someone point me to a forum topic that can help deal with wireless problems?
[20:27] <coz_> Shaba1,  the only problem I can forsee is when you remove the ubuntu server partition you will have to reinstall the mbr for windows I believe
[20:27] <sweet> se puede hablar en español?
[20:27] <erUSUL> !es | sweet
[20:27] <Shaba1> Oh hell
[20:28] <edbian> coz_: Shaba1 That is correct.  If you remove ubuntu completely grub will not be usable anymore and you need to use a windows XP system disk to restore the Master Boot Record.
[20:28] <sweet> ok, thx
[20:28] <Shaba1> you mean using grub right coz_
[20:28] <webpigeon_laptop> Stronze, now that is a very very borad term :P,
[20:28] <tannersummers> guys all ym text in firefox in ubuntu is lighe blue which makes it almsot imposssible for me to see, how can i fix this>
[20:28] <Shaba1> ok I have the xp dvd
[20:28] <Shaba1> well wait
[20:28] <edbian> Shaba1: ... waiting...
[20:28] <Shaba1> I also have a grub live cd
[20:28] <Shaba1> hmmm
[20:28] <Stronze> well the current problem is i enter the wap password and ubuntu changes it to something else when i try to reconnec
[20:29] <Shaba1> that would make it easier would it not?
[20:29] <tonyf12> tannersummers: Edit > Preferences > Content > Colours
[20:29] <Neji123> Something is wrong with my sound, I can hear sound when I logout from Ubuntu, but I cant hear anything when im logged in (like play mp3/avi files or youtube) anyone know what I may have done wrong?
[20:29]  * Stronze is a noob linux user and trying ubuntu for the first time
[20:29] <edbian> Shaba1: Having a grub CD would not help you in any way if you were trying to remove an ubuntu install and reinstall the windows boot loader into the MBR
[20:29] <sebsebseb> Stronze: cool
[20:29] <Shaba1> its great Stronze trust me
[20:30] <Stronze> what another expert linux user told me
[20:30] <sebsebseb> Stronze: wireless  is usually a pain to set up though
[20:30] <Shaba1> Well edbian I have gparted on live cd
[20:30] <Shaba1> and grub on live cd
[20:30] <tonyf12> I uninstalled mysql-server-5.1 and bugzilla3 is still complaing about downgrading from 5.1 -> 5.0 .
[20:30] <tannersummers> anyone?
[20:30] <sebsebseb> !anyone | tannersummers
[20:30] <orinoco> anybody know how to enable external speakers in ubuntu?
[20:31] <Stronze> sebse- i figured but it detects the connection but wont connect when i try the password
[20:31] <gartral> how do I revert a version of a program? [in my case, wine]
[20:31] <Shaba1> I could use gparted to recover/resize the ubuntu partition. but then as coz said the mbr would be wrong and grub would no longer be installed. I coudl then use the grub livecd to restore the MBR could I not?
[20:31] <webpigeon_laptop> orinoco what do you mean "enable external speakers"?
[20:31] <edbian> Shaba1: But if you are reinstalling the windows bootloader.  Which is probably not on your live CD's correct?  I understand what you are saying.  You can edit the harddrive / MBR with those tools.  What you are missing is the actual windows boot loader software.  You're XP DVD should have it though.
[20:31] <sebsebseb> Stronze: maybe useful and maybe not
[20:31] <tonyf12> tannersummers: Edit > Preferences > Content > Colours
[20:31] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  Stronze
[20:31] <coz_> orinoco,  ah open a terminal      alsamixer   see if the volumes are up
[20:31] <Shaba1> ah I seee
[20:31] <orinoco> the volumes are up
[20:31] <Shaba1> edbian I am not going to do that now.
[20:32] <edbian> Shaba1: If you are simply resizing you won't have a problem.  It's when you install grub (and ubuntu) and then try to remove them that you have a problem with the MBR
[20:32] <Neji123> webpigeon_laptop: I got it to work, I changed it from (ALSA) to (OSS)
[20:32] <orinoco> the integrated speakers are working
[20:32] <Shaba1> I have to clear out some space on this ntfs hd. but I will put you on notify.
[20:32] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, er, oss is kinda old...
[20:32] <edbian> Shaba1: Ok thanks :)  I'll be happy to help with whatever you need :)
[20:32] <Neji123> yes well it doesnt work with alsa, I get an error, wait i'll write it for you
[20:33] <orinoco> when i connect the external ones to the laptop, nothing happens
[20:33] <Stronze> sebse - the cable is to short to is for laptop since its plugged into xbox 360 and vista is running on wireless
[20:33] <Neji123> this is the error i get with alsa: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Kunde inte öppna ljudenheten för uppspelning.
[20:33] <Shaba1> ok now tell me this and I know its a general question after I restore the windows mbr will xp see that former ubuntu partition as free space or as a seperate drive?
[20:33] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, tried using pulseaudio? (which sits ontop of alsa :P)
[20:33] <tannersummers> ah...does anyone know how to chancge my firefox text? I installed a ubuntu theme and on some sites that dont use there own font color, i guess it uses the system font color which is a light blue making it impossible for me to see it
[20:33] <sebsebseb> Stronze: I don't know,  wireless isn't my area
[20:33] <tonyf12> tannersummers: Edit > Preferences > Content > Colours.
[20:33] <tonyf12> Within Firefox
[20:33] <Neji123> yes i tried them all.. OSS is the only thing that works
[20:34] <Stronze> away from chat reading on forum
[20:34] <tannersummers> tonyf12, no those colors are all right and the text color is white but on some sites ik why but coems out light blue
[20:34] <dury> Stronze: keep using it it's the only way to know the OS :d
[20:34] <Sargi> hi, does someone know how to configure the update behavior in jaunty by console?
[20:34] <tannersummers> i just checked
[20:34] <dury> :D
[20:34] <donovan> anyone know if ubuntu natively supports  internet connection sharing from a wired connection to wireless?(in other words, connecting another computer to mine and allowing it to access my wifi internet connection)
[20:34] <donovan> just curious
[20:35] <edbian> Shaba1: I think we're getting confused here.  In the shortest answer possible no.  Windows XP does not recogniz ext2,3, or 4 partitions.  It won't be a problem though because when you reinstalled the XP bootloader it would see the XP partitions and work properly.  Why would you be installing the windows bootloader though with your ubuntu install still on the disk??
[20:35] <webpigeon_laptop> donovan, there are help pages on it
[20:35] <Neji123> webpigeon_laptop: the error I get with alsa is: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Kunde inte öppna ljudenheten för uppspelning.
[20:35] <abcuser> need help. using live cd to recover grup after it has been lost when i installed windows xp. grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[20:35] <abcuser> Error 15: File not found
[20:35] <Shaba1> no you are getting confused edbian
[20:35] <donovan> ok thanks
[20:35] <tonyf12> I uninstalled mysql-server-5.1 and bugzilla3 is still complaing about downgrading from 5.1 -> 5.0 . Anyone know how to fix?
[20:35] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, its a generic error which means it can't open the audio device
[20:36] <Shaba1> I MIGHT need to get the disk space that ubuntu is on BACK to windows
[20:36] <edbian> Shaba1: Probably :)  Explain to me again in a different way
[20:36] <Shaba1> see what I eman
[20:36] <Shaba1> mean
[20:36] <Neji123> any idea how to fix it?
[20:36] <edbian> Shaba1: Ok so what is the question?
[20:36] <abcuser> need help. using live cd to recover grup after it has been lost when i installed windows xp. grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[20:36] <abcuser> Error 15: File not found
[20:37] <delmar> Shaba1, you can read/write ext2/3 filesystems in windows, if that helps.
[20:37] <dury> bbl cya guys
[20:37] <shadow420> well regnum works mych better on my laptop
[20:37] <kkk> alguem È do brasil ?
[20:37] <kkk>  :(
[20:37] <dury> VIVA UBUNTU
[20:38] <kkk> alguem aki è brasileiiro ?
[20:38] <shadow420> kkk | !ubuntu-bl
[20:38] <Sargi> e.g. which files does software-properties-gtk work on?
[20:38] <M4vman> Hey guys, I'm hosting a web server and having problems getting PHP Open Chat to work. It gives me "Failed opening required 'config.inc.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/php/PEAR')
[20:38] <M4vman> "
[20:38] <shadow420> !ubuntu brazil
[20:38] <yofel> abcuser: do you hava a boot/ parition?
[20:38] <yofel> *partition
[20:38] <delmar> great. ubuntu 9.04 - blank screen.
[20:38] <Neji123> webpigeon_laptop: do you know what may be causing it? and what I can do to make it work?
[20:38] <kkk> UBUNTU ??
[20:39] <Schuenemann> !br
[20:39] <dury> VIVA LINUX :D
[20:39] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, all kinds of things might be reposible :(
[20:39] <Eslu> Do Gparted have a GUI for Ubuntu? If not can anyone give me a guide? New to Linux.
[20:39] <Neji123> webpigeon_laptop: oh :(
[20:39] <sebsebseb> Eslu: yes it does
[20:39] <Schuenemann> Eslu,  gparted is already the gui for parted
[20:39] <kkk> #ubuntu-br
[20:39] <Eslu> Where can i find it?
[20:39] <shadow420> Neji123 so we have to locate the main problem
[20:39] <M4vman> type gparted in terminal
[20:40] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, try changing the setting to pulseaudio though, if it works thats the best possible option to use
[20:40] <shadow420> type sudo gparted
[20:40] <Eslu> okay
[20:40] <Neji123> webpigeon_laptop: cant hear anything with pulseaudio, tried everything on the list OSS is the only thing that works :s
[20:40] <Neji123> shadow420: any tips on how to locate it? heh
[20:40] <Froogle> what
[20:40] <Froogle> on
[20:40] <Froogle> earth
[20:40] <webpigeon_laptop> Neji123, okay
[20:41] <Froogle> now phpMyAdmin doesn't work :(
[20:41] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, o.o
[20:41] <Froogle> everything just stopped working
[20:41] <abcuser> yofel:  i had ubuntu installed in a different partition. its sda2
[20:41] <ThorsonB_> rarw
[20:41] <webpigeon_laptop> Froogle, it sounds like something really doesn't like your setup?
[20:41] <Dethroned> how do i uninstall wolfenstein ET?  i know the location of the file but i don't know how to delete it
[20:41] <ThorsonB> hey
[20:41] <shadow420> Neji123 not really most of the time all my audio works right out of the box
[20:41] <Froogle> yeah and I swear its something to do with socket permissions
[20:41] <tonyf12> I can't install bugzilla3 as it says mysql-server-5.1 is installed and complains about downgrading from 5.1 -> 5.0 . If I sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.1, it goes back to the bugzilla3 installation and stops because of 5.1 -> 5.0. If I sudo apt-get clean then sudo apt-get update
[20:42] <tonyf12> it says mysql-server is not installed
[20:42] <mimcpher> Does anybody know how nvidia's proprietary drivers work with multiple nvidia cards on linux?
[20:42] <delmar> Neji123, i had some fun with pulse audio the other day. maybe i can help.
[20:42] <erik__> #the_conquerors
[20:42] <Neji123> delmar: would be great, because I take it the playback on OSS isnt of the highest quality hehe
[20:42] <tonyf12> If I then go back and try install bugzilla3, it complains about the 5.1 -> 5.0 again.
[20:42] <coz_> mimcpher,  I dont  know for sure but  if you are planning something like more than two monitors then you will go up against some issues
[20:43] <delmar> Neji123, ok. so what audio hardware do you have?
[20:43] <Neji123> delmar: X-Fi Fatality, I downloaded the drivers from creatives website and they seem to work
[20:43] <mimcpher> coz_, I know this isn't trivial to do.  But I can't hack the proprietary drivers, so I'd have to give up now.
[20:43] <Dethroned> how do i uninstall wolfenstein ET?  i know the location of the folder but i don't know how to delete it
[20:43] <abcuser>  need help. using live cd to recover grup after it has been lost when i installed windows xp. grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[20:43] <abcuser> (02:36:58 AM) abcuser: Error 15: File not found
[20:44] <dury> Froogle: how can I go to my phpmyadmin
[20:44] <coz_> mimcpher, I know its possible  and if you want more than two monitors there would be an issue  I have seen 6 monitors used with three nvidia cards
[20:45] <mimcpher> Possible is all I need to know.  Thanks.
[20:45] <coz_> mimcpher,  take a look here and that the video it links to    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=884161
[20:45] <Acedip> can someone help me out with installing Glib?
[20:46] <delmar> Neji123, really? work how so?  I'm only using three :P
[20:47] <coz_> Acedip,   sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[20:47] <Acedip> coz_, yes installing with source, need 2.19
[20:47] <Acedip> its not there in the repo
[20:47] <Eslu> jeeez, ubuntu doesnt make much sense for me. Can't even find the new hard drive i formatted :p
[20:47] <dury> Froogle: http://localhost/phpmyadmin/
[20:47] <delmar> Neji123, i couldn't get my X-Fi to work at all so I sent it back to the supplier.  I ended up going back to the on-board audio but also have a c-media chipset USB headset that works nice.
[20:47] <Eslu> to*
[20:47] <coz_> mimcpher,  for sure  and that would require you using xgl I believe and that is no longe developed or supported
[20:48] <delmar> Neji123, sorry. didnt realise you had a creative X-Fi.  im over creative. they pissed me off.
[20:48] <Dethroned> how do i uninstall wolfenstein ET?!  i know the location of the folder but i don't know how to delete it.  It does not have an uninstall executable
[20:48] <Neji123> delmar: oh alright, well it works good in windows, and I can hear sound in Linux as well but only with OSS. that was what I ment with 'work'.
[20:48] <dury> Froogle: it gives you option to type user and pwd
[20:48] <delmar> Neji123, so u have the pulseaudio icon on the bar at the top etc?
[20:49] <tudon> Dethroned,  such games often onliny have one main folder just remove it
[20:49] <coz_> Dethroned,   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853048
[20:49] <tudon> only*
[20:49] <Dethroned> tudon:  it does not allow me to uninstall it
[20:49] <dury> delmar: how do you say good morning in japanese?
[20:49] <cankoy> tonyf12: remove bugzilla, then remove mysql-5.1, then install bugzilla...
[20:49] <Neji123> delmar: hmm, dont think so
[20:49] <delmar> Neji123, I couldnt get mine to work at all but I think i realised that if it wasn't going to play nice with Alsa, I was probably never going to get it working nicely with Ubuntu
[20:49] <Dethroned> tudon:  i mean delete...bleh
[20:50] <tudon> sudo
[20:50] <Dethroned> coz:  that is for installation...i want to uninstall it
[20:50] <coz_> Dethroned,  oh sorry I misread
[20:50] <Froogle> dury: what about it?
[20:50] <delmar> Neji123, just a sec and I will dig out some notes I made the other week when messing about with pulseaudio etc.
[20:50] <Dethroned> tudon:  How do I delete a folder via the terminal?
[20:51] <Neji123> delmar: weird, I was installing the latest plugins for alsa and got this error - configure: error: Package requirements (alsa >= 1.0.11) were not met: No package 'alsa' found
[20:51] <Froogle> [root@cvncpu.net~][18:50:21][09-06-13]#>telnet -d localhost 3306
[20:51] <Froogle> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[20:51] <Froogle> setsockopt (SO_DEBUG): Permission denied
[20:51] <dury> Froogle: you said phpmyadmin it doesn't worlk
[20:51] <Froogle> no local services work from localhost
[20:51] <Froogle> it's not PhpMyAdmin that is borkewn
[20:51] <Froogle> it's this entire system
[20:51] <Froogle> I am backing up now and starting fresh
[20:52] <dury> Froogle: right
[20:52] <Eslu> Can i run hard drives with diffrent file sytems in Ubuntu? Just formatted one of my hard drives to EXT4 and one my of other EXT3. But i cant find the new drive under System Monitor at all :S
[20:53] <tonyf12> cankoy: When bugzilla is removed, it says mysql-server-5.1 is not installed. But when I go back to install bugzilla again, it says it is installed.
[20:53] <tudon> rm -rf /foldername
[20:53] <delmar> Neji123, what Ubuntu version u have?
[20:54] <Eslu> thdk
[20:54] <Eslu> tudon talking to me=
[20:54] <Eslu> ?
[20:54] <Neji123> delmar: the latest, downloaded it today
[20:54] <tudon> no
[20:54] <dury> Neji123: type in console  lsb_release -a
[20:54] <deany> Eslu, is it mounted
[20:54] <delmar> Neji123, ok. im not running that _yet_. wont even install on either of my boxes.
[20:54] <ThorsonB> Aha! laptop battery
[20:54] <Eslu> seems like it isnt
[20:54] <tonyf12> I posted it in more detail on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1186601
[20:54] <ThorsonB>  you should see KipKay on youtube!
[20:54] <Eslu> because i cant find it in System Monitor and in the Computer menu
[20:55] <Neji123> dury: No LSB modules are available.  Ubuntu 9.04
[20:55] <deany> mount it?
[20:55] <delmar> Neji123, have you seen this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384   ?
[20:55] <Eslu> how ;o?
[20:56] <Neji123> delmar: Nope I'll take a look at it now
[20:56] <deany> Eslu, you want it static?
[20:56] <Froogle> god dammit
[20:56] <zarvox_> hi
[20:57] <Flannel> Froogle: Please mind your language, thanks.
[20:57] <Froogle> yeah sorry wrong chan
[20:57] <zarvox_> someone help me i've an usb stick that i can't mount
[20:58] <delmar> Froogle, that was supposed to be said in #buble then huh ?  I have to go..... be back other time...... cheers channel :D
[20:59] <delmar> Neji123, also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[21:00] <Neji123> delmar: alright, thanks man I'll check if I can get it working
[21:00] <dury> delmar: sorry.... I thought you are japanese
[21:00] <istvan> when ever I try to install ubunt I get the error that grub can't run on my main hd
[21:01] <istvan> I can't find a solution!!!
[21:02] <Xx_[S]cReAmE[R]_> muajaja
[21:02] <gartral> how do I revert a version of a program? [in my case, wine]
[21:02] <tuck> bonjour
[21:02] <tuck> est-ce que quelqu'un a déjà acheté un dell sous ubuntu ?
[21:02] <cozmoz> how do I save games in PCSX?
[21:02] <tuck> et si oui comment faire
[21:03] <tuck> exit
[21:04] <tiyowan> !fr | tuck
[21:04] <mneptok> tiyowan: he parted.
[21:04] <coz_> tuck  j'ai unclient ave Dell / ubuntu susteme
[21:04] <coz_> avec
[21:04] <delmar> Neji123, i came across this way back when I was looking to get my X-Fi working.  it all put me off :(.
[21:04] <istvan> so i have this error when I try to install ubuntu with grub
[21:04] <mneptok> !fr | coz_
[21:04] <istvan> any ideas why?
[21:05] <mneptok> coz_: ou #ubuntu-qc, si tu es Quebecois
[21:05] <Neji123> delmar: :( hope I can get it to work :(
[21:05] <furythor> Where I can find xclient script that is run in startup ?
[21:05] <davide> sto canale è solo in inglese hai capito??
[21:05] <|Ryan> How do I login as root in my terminal?
[21:05] <davide> i can understend better
[21:05] <mneptok> |Ryan: sudo -i
[21:05] <delmar> Neji123, system, prefs, sound, what is set up in there?
[21:06] <|Ryan> mneptok:Thanks
[21:06] <shodan45_> I'm using kubuntu 8.10 (live cd) to move some partitions & data around. I used dd to make images of my old partitions & now I'm copying them back. The first partition went at 37MB/s, but the rest are much slower - 3 to 6MB/s. Any idea why?
[21:06] <Neji123> Delmar: YAY! I got ALSA to work now!
[21:06] <delmar> mint
[21:06] <tiyowan> mneptok: Vous parlez francais?
[21:06] <mneptok> tiyowan: bien sur, mais pas ici.
[21:06] <furythor> shodan propably due capability of hard disk
[21:07] <|Ryan> mneptok:
[21:07] <|Ryan> Note: Type all the following commands in a root terminal, DO NOT use sudo.  That's what I want to do.
[21:07] <delmar> Neji123, on mine.. under sound prefs, it's all "pulse audio sound server"  except the mixer, which is an alsa mixer for my hardware.
[21:07] <mneptok> |Ryan: did you try what i told you?
[21:07] <davide> io parlo france
[21:07] <|Ryan> mneptok: administrator@ubuntu:~$ sudo -i
[21:07] <|Ryan> [sudo] password for administrator:
[21:07] <|Ryan> administrator is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[21:08] <delmar> Neji123, then under applications, sound, fire up the pulse audio device chooser...icon should appear on the icon tray area.
[21:08] <Neji123> delmar: I have Creative ALSA Driver X-Fi WaveOut/WaveIn (ALSA)
[21:08] <rennio> falão português
[21:08] <rennio> ??
[21:08] <mneptok> |Ryan: then your account does not have administrative privilieges.
[21:08] <delmar> Neji123, ok. how are things working now then? better?
[21:08] <|Ryan> Hmm.
[21:08] <mneptok> |Ryan: who owns the machine?
[21:08] <|Ryan> One sec.
[21:08] <|Ryan> Me.
[21:08] <Neji123> delmar: I'll check with VLC and stuff, will let you know in a min
[21:08] <rennio> brasil ??
[21:08] <mneptok> |Ryan: then use your account with admin privs.
[21:08] <mneptok> !br > rennio
[21:08] <|Ryan> mneptok: How?
[21:08] <shodan45_> furythor: I can understand that happening somewhat, but the first one went 6x faster than the second
[21:09] <delmar> Neji123, try multiple apps at once too.
[21:09] <delmar> Neji123, see if the mixing is ok
[21:09] <mneptok> |Ryan: the first account you create on an Ubuntu machine has admin privileges
[21:09] <rennio> alguem do brasil ai
[21:09] <Flannel> |Ryan: You have another account, right? One you created during installation
[21:09] <Flannel> rennio: /join #ubuntu-br
[21:09] <rennio> valew
[21:09] <|Ryan> Both: The account I'm using IS the first account.
[21:10] <furythor> is there difference in age of those disks ?
[21:10] <shodan45_> furythor: both brand new drives
[21:10] <furythor> strange
[21:10] <Flannel> |Ryan: How did you install this? (what was the name of the CD, etc)?
[21:10] <Neji123> delmar: Yeah it works like a charm now, VLC and YouTube works as well.
[21:11] <|Ryan> Flannel: I downloaded and ran the raw ISO using winRAR.
[21:11] <shodan45_> one is an external firewire samsung 1TB, other internal ata samsung 160GB
[21:11] <delmar> Neji123, sweet.
[21:11] <|Ryan> Flannel: On windows.
[21:11] <Flannel> |Ryan: You ran the ISO?  You didn't boot to it?
[21:11] <delmar> Neji123, so you had to manually install a creative driver that wasn't part of 9.04 right?
[21:11] <Neji123> delmar: yes, I found it on Creatives website under their normal drivers
[21:12] <gartral> how do I revert a version of a program? [in my case, wine]
[21:12] <|Ryan> Flannel: It wouldn't let me boot, so I ran the installer, within the ISO which copied the installation files, THEN I rebooted into Ubuntu and it installed it.
[21:12] <delmar> Neji123, I wonder if it's newer than the one I couldnt get to work a few months back.
[21:13] <Flannel> |Ryan: Alright.  Oh, did you do any partitioning when you did this? or is this a wubi thing?
[21:13] <furythor> what kind files are on those hard disks ?
[21:13] <Neji123> delmar: It was released the 6'th november 2008
[21:13] <SunnyD> Hey guys! I am looking for an automatic wallpaper switcher. every 5 minutes or so.
[21:13] <delmar> Neji123, must be the same driver then.
[21:13] <tanath> is there a 'proper'/recommended way to change RWIN on ubuntu (and have it persist)?
[21:14] <delmar> Neji123, ah I remember. the card wasnt supported by that driver.
[21:14] <tanath> i want to optimize my connection
[21:14] <furythor> How I can disable the compiz if I am not able to see more than white screen after logging in ?
[21:14] <|Ryan> Flannel: Yeah! I used wubi. However, I created 2 separate partitions in Windows.
[21:14] <sebsebseb> SunnyD: gbackground
[21:14] <SunnyD> sebsebseb: il fonctionne bien ?
[21:14] <|Ryan> Flannel, one sec, Apparently I'm not an administrator.
[21:14] <timmy> @SunnyD It's included in vanilla KDE, or else use drapes. There's also some bash scripts on Google, if drapes doesn't work out
[21:14] <|Ryan> Flannel: I'm gonna log.
[21:14] <sebsebseb> SunnyD: what?
[21:14] <SunnyD> timmy: thanks\
[21:15] <Flannel> |Ryan: Alright, well, if you're not in the admin group, we can fix that.  But it'll take a reboot.
[21:15] <delmar> Neji123, yeah im sure that was it. the card was the X-Fi Xtreme Audio and it wasn't supported by the beta driver.
[21:15] <shodan45_> furythor: the external drive is one big XFS partition, the files are images of 2 ext3 partitions, and 1 reiserfs
[21:15] <SunnyD> sebsebseb: with your name, i thought you were from quebec
[21:15] <sebsebseb> SunnyD: nope
[21:15] <delmar> Neji123, thats why I had to give up.
[21:15] <Neji123> delmar: oh but it isnt a beta driver now, its 1.00
[21:15] <sebsebseb> SunnyD: also this channel is meant to be English only by the way
[21:15] <SunnyD> sebsebseb: thx
[21:16] <timmy> I'm in gparted running off a Live CD right now, trying to resize my partitions, and there's a little line between my Windows partition and swap, and no amount of resizing or moving will let a partition cross it. What gives?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> !fr > SunnyD
[21:16] <furythor> Shodan45_ then it can be due different file systems used, since they are different in capablities.
[21:17] <|Ryan_> Flannel: I can;t login as root from the login screen
[21:17] <furythor> but if you move from disk to another, process is always as fast as slowest disk is reading ...
[21:17] <sebsebseb> SunnyD: your name seems to be after a drink
[21:17] <delmar> Neji123, yep. think I had a go with that one. was just looking on my system for the download but... i musta got rid of it.
[21:17] <SunnyD> sebsebseb: hey brother, where does gbackground install to ?
[21:17] <mikejet> How does x-chat put an icon in the top right toolbar?
[21:17] <cankoy> tonyf12: did you manage a successful apt-get update? try it after removing bugzilla (and mysql-server)
[21:17] <Flannel> |Ryan_: No, Ubuntu doesn't use the root account.  If you're not in the admin group (which is weird), we can fix that, but it'll require a reboot
[21:17] <tanath> SunnyD, i'm pretty sure compiz has the ability built in
[21:18] <SunnyD> tanath: i cant use compiz
[21:18] <sebsebseb> SunnyD: don't know, but should be able to open from menu,  or via terminal with gbackground
[21:18] <tanath> SunnyD, why not?
[21:18] <xiong> evolution trouble! i edited some filters, then selected all items in my 'sent' folder, then attempted to apply filters via ctrl-Y -- *every* message disappeared!
[21:18] <SunnyD> tanath: old pc ?
[21:18] <|Ryan> Flannel: 'reboot', as in restart or reinstall Ubuntu?
[21:18] <tanath> SunnyD, how old?
[21:18] <timmy> @xiong <Ctrl><Z> for undo?
[21:18] <tanath> SunnyD, mine's 5 years old, and runs it great
[21:18] <tanath> 5-6
[21:18] <tonyf12> cankoy: No. I can't remove mysql-server. It says it is gone, and then iot says it isn't gone after I try install bugzilla3 again
[21:19] <|Ryan> Wow.
[21:19] <|Ryan> I loged in twice?
[21:19] <tanath> SunnyD, if you had gnome-do you wouldn't need to worry about where it installed to :P
[21:19] <SunnyD> tanath: do you wnat to see my lspci ?
[21:19] <timmy> SunnyD: Re: Compiz http://blog.tsmacdonald.com/archives/153
[21:19] <tanath> SunnyD, why not
[21:19] <tannersummers> how can i open a folder as root?
[21:19] <nkei0> Okay, so I just downloaded and installed the upgrades for the past few days, I'm not sure how far back it goes.  Anyways, I was told I had to restart firefox, so I did and now nothing works right.  I keep getting an "Assertion Failed" message.  I attempted to open up my add-ons and disable everything, but nothing comes up.
[21:19] <cabrey> |Ryan, it was a ghost nickname
[21:19] <SunnyD> tanath: i cannot get transaparency in terminal :9
[21:19] <Flannel> |Ryan: Reboot the computer (restart it), and then after the windows bootloader screen, you'll choose Ubuntu (which actually boots you to GRUB) and the grub menu is hidden by default, so you'll have to push escape at this point, and then choose "recovery console"  Do you have a second computer you can be online with while doing this? or should I give you all the instructions now
[21:19] <delmar> Neji123, did u have much trouble finding the driver? I couldnt even find it through their site. I found it via a link in e forum pointing at the location on a creative mirror.
[21:19] <xiong> timmy, not enabled
[21:19] <cankoy> tonyf12: remove bugzilla, then apt-get update. Does it succeed?
[21:20] <tonyf12> apt-get update suceeds
[21:20] <tanath> SunnyD, which vid drivers you using? proprietary/restricted, or os?
[21:20] <Neji123> delmar: None at all, just went to Creative.com / Support / X-fi Fatal1ty, scrolled down to the bottom of the page selected OS Linux and there it was
[21:20] <|Ryan> Flannel: Yes please, but could you in a private chat so I don't keep having to scroll?
[21:20] <|Ryan> Flannel: And No, sorry.
[21:20] <SunnyD> tanath: nothing proprietary that's for sure
[21:20] <cankoy> tonyf12: then apt-get -f install
[21:20] <SunnyD> tanath: http://pastebin.ca/1459249
[21:20] <Flannel> |Ryan: Alright, well, you'll want to write this down anyway.  I'll pastebin it.
[21:21] <tonyf12> Then it tells me mysql-server-5.1 _is_ installed, after telling me up until that point it wasn't.
[21:21] <|Ryan> Flannel: Pastebin?
[21:21] <tanath> SunnyD, might need to in order to get full use out of your comp
[21:21] <xiong> getting weirder --- found sent messages in trash and now cannot drag them out!
[21:21] <SunnyD> tanath: for this sucker? 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF
[21:21] <delmar> Neji123, ah yep. there it is.... on your card, but not on the X-Fi Xtreme... Linux option not available, hence why I found the card wasn't supported by the driver I found.
[21:21] <cankoy> tonyf12:  then you did not remove bugzilla yet
[21:21] <Neji123> delmar: ah yeah, explains it :(
[21:21] <tonyf12> I have removed bugzilla
[21:21] <tannersummers> anyone?
[21:22] <sebsebseb> tannersummers: open which folder as root?
[21:22] <jase-> dvds do not play at all. what codecs do i need
[21:22] <cankoy> tonyf12: sorry, I'm out of ideas.
[21:22] <tanath> SunnyD, that's comparable to my vid card, and mine runs compiz like a pro :D
[21:22] <cabrey> !medibuntu | jase-
[21:22] <delmar> Neji123, well thats good to know that it wasn't _too_ hard to get working. Pitty it's not all supported within the distro. maybe it will be eventually.
[21:22] <nkei0> hmm, i'll try rebooting and coming back if it's broke
[21:22] <SunnyD> tanath: :D
[21:22] <tannersummers> sebsebseb its a mounted sd card
[21:23] <tanath> SunnyD, i have an ATI Radeon 9200SE, which is 128Mb
[21:23] <SunnyD> tanath: coolo
[21:23] <sebsebseb> tannersummers: sudo -i  for root shell   and   gksudo nautilus for the file manager as root, be careful when you do that, so you don't delete some system file or something
[21:23] <tanath> SunnyD, and i'm using the open source drivers, even
[21:23]  * bc sighs at the "Original ImageMagick logo is not DSFG Free" message in the ImageMagick window.
[21:23] <xiong> help -- i really do not want to lose my outgoing emails!
[21:23] <tanath> SunnyD, and i use the cube & everything :P
[21:23] <tannersummers> ty
[21:23] <Chaorain> I just reinstalled Ubuntu 9.04 and mounted an xfs partition with media on it as /var/lib/mythtv. Now the partition is empty. Help?
[21:23] <sebsebseb> tannersummers: np
[21:24] <tanath> SunnyD, CPU speed?
[21:24] <SunnyD> tanath: i dont really care about that, all i need is terminal transparency to do my work
[21:24] <SunnyD> tanath: CPU not sure bro,
[21:25] <tanath> SunnyD, you can hold alt+scroll wheel to change transparency on all windows
[21:26] <SunnyD> tanath: not on terminal, and look brother: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510606
[21:26] <furythor> Can I edit xclient script or compiz manually ?
[21:26] <tanath> SunnyD, i do it all the time
[21:27] <furythor> or what would be reason that when I install drivers all I get after login is blank black or white screen
[21:27] <tanath> SunnyD, that's an old thread. have you tried envy?
[21:27] <SunnyD> tanath: envy ?
[21:27] <tanath> SunnyD, and i think the open source drivers work for radeon & rage
[21:27] <SunnyD> tanath: wil try friend
[21:27] <tanath> SunnyD, it's a utility to automatically install the appropriate restricted video driver
[21:28] <cga>  hi all, anyone succded installing ultramixer <IP_ADDRESS>.jar ? it hangs at installation and won't install. jaunty.
[21:28] <furythor> where to get that ?
[21:28] <jase-> dvd w32codecs.deb does this exist
[21:29] <Serica> is it safe to do something like rm -rf /tmp/* /tmp/.* ?
[21:30] <furythor> is there properly working restricted drivers for Ati Radeon 9600 ?
[21:30] <Neji123> what do I do if I dont want any user to be able to access the hard-drives, (only have access to their own home-folder)
[21:30] <istvan> every time i try to install ubuntu I get the error: executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. this is a fatal error' - how do i fix this!!!???
[21:30] <SunnyD> tanath: wil do
[21:30] <cabrey> Neji123, use permissions
[21:30] <cabrey> !permissions | Neji123
[21:30] <Chaorain> I need to recover my xfs partition HELP
[21:30] <tanath> furythor, most likely. try envy
[21:30] <Neji123> alright, thank you
[21:30] <sebsebseb> istvan: sounds like Grub won't detect your hard disk
[21:30] <furythor> where to find it ?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> istvan: well install to it
[21:31] <cabrey> furythor, no, there aren't any
[21:31] <Flannel> |Ryan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/195206/
[21:31] <istvan> is that the last step of the ubuntu install?
[21:31] <|Ryan> Thanks/
[21:31] <sebsebseb> istvan: this might provide a useful link
[21:32] <sebsebseb> !grub > istvan
[21:32] <jase-> i can't play dvds mplayer. what codecs do i need
[21:32] <furythor> ok, so it is best move to remove any drivers that is installed ?
[21:32] <cabrey> furythor, no the open source driver should be good enough for yoou
[21:32] <cga> !java
[21:32] <sebsebseb> jase-: you need libdvdcss2 from the mediabuntu repo
[21:33] <furythor> ok
[21:33] <sebsebseb> !mediabuntu | jase-
[21:33] <furythor> so can I do things like play DVDs etc with open source drivers ?
[21:33] <sebsebseb> jase-: medebuntu however it's spelt
[21:33] <istvan> the first thing this says to try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub is the find stage1 files
[21:33] <Geoffrey2> anyone know if there's a way to set a specific timeout period for the mount command?
[21:33] <|Ryan> Flannel: I'm gonna go try that, thanks in advance.
[21:33] <istvan> I get error 15: file not found for both of them
[21:33] <istvan> *both commands
[21:34] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu |  jase-
[21:34] <bullgard4> [Ekiga] What does 'GM' stand for in the identifiers 'GMSIPEndpoint', 'GMManager', and 'GMPCSSEndpoint'?
[21:35] <Chaorain> Am I still connected?
[21:35] <sebsebseb> Chaorain: yes
[21:35] <pcgenius> i want to upgrade my ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 using the cd sent to my home
[21:35] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | pcgenius
[21:36] <pcgenius> ubottu:ok
[21:36] <Geoffrey2> I have a batch file set up on my laptop to mount drives on the desktop....if I forgot to turn the desktop on, the mount command sits there for several minutes before finally admitting failure....I'm just trying to find some way to cut the time before it gives up....
[21:36] <Chaorain> sebsebseb, wasen't untill I sent the msg
[21:36] <Flannel> pcgenius: Unfortunately, that CD can't be used to upgrade.    There are, however, ways you can do the reinstall without losing your personal files and settings.
[21:36] <pcgenius> Flannel:please tell me in detail
[21:37] <Chaorain> Am I still connected?
[21:37] <mikejet> One thing that really bothers me is how the applications in the bottom toolbar change in each workspace.  I want them to be static, like the stuff in the top toolbar.
[21:37] <Chaorain> I need to recover my xfs partition HELP
[21:37] <Flannel> pcgenius: Which part?  The CD differences? or how to keep your personal stuff safe
[21:37] <furythor> what program is to share keyboard over ethernet connection ?
[21:37] <sebsebseb> Flannel: why did I get kicked?
[21:37] <Flannel> sebsebseb: #ubuntu-ops
[21:38] <pcgenius> Flannel:please tell me about both of them
[21:38] <istvan> can someone help me find out why I cant find grub's stage1?
[21:39] <istvan> i get error 15 for it all
[21:39] <gartral> how do I revert a version of a program? [in my case, wine]
[21:39] <gartral> how do I revert a version of a program? [in my case, wine]
[21:40] <cankoy> Geoffrey2: using NFS?
[21:40] <gartral> [oops, thesecond post was accidental]
[21:41] <Sorinello> can someone suggest me a very simple html editor for ubuntu ?
[21:41] <Geoffrey2> cankoy, I believe so, set up NFS on the server, then issue the mount command from the laptop....
[21:41] <Sorinello> something like syhtax colouring
[21:41] <Sorinello> naybe with preview mode
[21:41] <Sorinello> *maybe
[21:41] <cabrey> Sorinello, bluefish is pretty good
[21:41] <pcgenius> Sorinello:you can use geedit and quanta
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> Sorinello:  for text/html editing with syntax, theres vim and its variants, and geany which i like a lot.
[21:41] <Flannel> pcgenius: The Desktop CD is the CD that shipit sent you.  It's a liveCD, and can also be used to install Ubuntu.  The Alternate CD isn't sent, and it's the one you need to upgrade directly.
[21:41] <Curahee> Emacs also supports synthax higlighting
[21:41] <Flannel> pcgenius: Of course, you can also upgrade over the internet.
[21:42] <istvan> so I was linked to two different sites for grub issues, and I can't get past the first step
[21:42] <cankoy> Geoffrey2: man nfs
[21:42] <Flannel> pcgenius: In order to have a newer system via the desktop CD, you'll have to reinstall.  But reinstalls, if done right, don't need to delete all of your data.
[21:42] <Flannel> pcgenius: If you move your home folder (which is where all your personal data and settings are kept), you don't have to erase it when you reinstall.
[21:42] <istvan> the lines: find /grub/stage1 and find /boot/grub/stage1 - both return Error 15: File not found
[21:42] <Flannel> pcgenius: er, sorry, if you move your home folder to a separate partition.
[21:43] <bradwin> I'm sorry if this is not the right place to ask for help, but I have issues with getting my sound to work in Ubuntu 9.04. I'm kinda new to Ubuntu and look in forums does not help me any further at the moment...
[21:43] <pcgenius> Sorinello:just select the heml from the view>highlight mode>markup>html
[21:43] <Flannel> pcgenius: You reinstall "around" that partition, an its data sticks around
[21:43] <kielanmatt> hi
[21:43] <pcgenius> Sorinello:in geddit
[21:43] <kielanmatt> anyone DOES Overlcoocking
[21:43] <pcgenius> Flannel:ok
[21:43] <e0n`> hmmm
[21:43] <Flannel> pcgenius: You do, however, have to reinstall all the programs you installed that aren't included in a default install, but thats simpler.
[21:44] <Flannel> pcgenius: If you're interested in moving your home folder to a separate partitin, the following link will explain how
[21:44] <Flannel> !separatehome | pcgenius
[21:44] <ThorsonB_> hey wherfe ca i got ubuntu themes?
[21:44] <ThorsonB_> where *
[21:44] <pcgenius> ok
[21:44] <|Ryan> Flannel: Thanks alot, it worked.
[21:45] <bradwin> I'm sorry if this is not the right place to ask for help, but I have issues with getting my sound to work in Ubuntu 9.04. I'm kinda new to Ubuntu and look in forums does not help me any further at the moment...
[21:45] <JasonX> Rarw
[21:45] <Myrtti> bradwin: this is the exactly right place to ask for help
[21:45] <bradwin> sweet.
[21:45] <ibuclaw> JasonX, ahh! :)
[21:46] <bradwin> if I do "hwinfo --sound", there is a line: "Driver Status: snd_intel8x0 is not active"
[21:46] <e0n`> Is ther an LPIA install for ubuntu hardy?
[21:47] <JasonX> what do u call the login screen for Ubuntu, i8 want to9 change that
[21:47] <JasonX> to change *
[21:47] <e0n`> I see the branc but I don't see the ISO
[21:47] <e0n`> JasonX: GDM
[21:47] <gartral> [oops, thesecond post was accidental]
[21:47] <e0n`> JasonX: go find GDM themes :)
[21:47] <gartral> [oops, thesecond post was accidental]
[21:47] <gartral> how do I revert a version of a program? [in my case, wine]
[21:47] <FloodBot2> gartral: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:47] <bullgard4> [Ekiga] What does 'GM' stand for in the identifiers 'GMSIPEndpoint', 'GMManager', and 'GMPCSSEndpoint'?
[21:47] <JasonX> eon thanks
[21:47] <JasonX> e0n thanks *
[21:47] <e0n`> JasonX: np
[21:48] <Slart> gartral: you mean downgrade? uninstall and reinstall the other version
[21:48] <|Ryan> I need some help using terminal.
[21:48] <Slart> gartral: as far as I know, that's the only way
[21:48] <|Ryan> I get this error message - administrator@ubuntu:~$ ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:48] <|Ryan> SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied
[21:48] <|Ryan> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[21:48] <|Ryan> administrator@ubuntu:~$ ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:48] <|Ryan> SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied
[21:48] <FloodBot2> |Ryan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:48] <|Ryan> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[21:48] <Slart> |Ryan: just ask
[21:48] <sebsebseb> |Ryan: ok well this might be useful
[21:48] <sebsebseb> !terminal |  |Ryan
[21:48] <Slart> |Ryan: you need to use sudo before that command, I think
[21:49] <|Ryan> Slart: I'm told NOT to use sudo.
[21:49] <dobre_zuo> i have v4l2: unable to open '/dev/video0': Permission denied
[21:49] <Slart> |Ryan: ie you need to run it as root..
[21:49] <dobre_zuo> under root is ok
[21:49] <|Ryan> Oh
[21:49] <Slart> |Ryan: who told you not to use sudo?
[21:49] <dobre_zuo> what should i do?
[21:49] <|Ryan> The website.
[21:49] <carpii> using sudo is fine. the whole point of sudo is so that youre not running each and every command as root
[21:49] <carpii> just make you you understand what oure doing before using sudo :p
[21:49] <eslu> Could someone help me with samba? Im having problems sharing folders without getting the login propmt, but i can with ease check what folders that are chared on a other computer without the login propmt coming up :S
[21:49] <Slart> |Ryan: oohh.. "the website".. well.. it's your call then
[21:49] <eslu> shared*
[21:50] <|Ryan> Oh
[21:50] <|Ryan> Slart: It says I must be in a 'root' terminal, how can I access this?
[21:50] <sofiankrt> hi, I'm having some problems with my installation of ubuntu (both actually)
[21:50] <istvan> this might be a better way to ask my grub problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7451504#post7451504
[21:50] <sofiankrt> my hard disk memory is 0 bytes!
[21:50] <battolio> google.com
[21:50] <Slart> |Ryan: just use sudo instead
[21:51] <sofiankrt> I was apt-getting a program and suddenly I get 0 bytes storage in my /home
[21:51] <|Ryan> Oh
[21:51] <roy_hobbs> Can I as an administrator edit the avatars (.face) of all users on the computer? Simply placing something at .face doesn't seem to work completely. It'd be nice if they were resized to similar dimensions automatically too
[21:51] <sofiankrt> can anyone help?
[21:51] <kielanmatt> excuse me
[21:51] <kielanmatt> how do I hack or DoS winblows server 200
[21:51] <Slart> !ot | kielanmatt
[21:52] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: sounds like your partition space may have run out
[21:52] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: I could have sworn I had more than enough space!
[21:52] <Neji123> err, this is a bit embarassing to ask but I cant find the directory for PlayOnLinux, where is it at?
[21:52] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: and deleting stuff (from the Trash as well) doesn't work
[21:52] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: that  kind of thing has happended to me before, thought I had more space in the partition, but then no I don't
[21:53] <istvan> sebsebseb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7451504#post7451504 -- there is my question asked better'
[21:53] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: ok, I'll try deleting stuff from the Trash again. Hey, is there anything in particular on a normal Ubuntu installation that uses up a lot of space but isn't really necessary? Anything you'd recommend I delete?
[21:53] <pcgenius> you can revert back to your old package version
[21:53] <marcin__> halo jest tu kto?
[21:53] <pcgenius> check the link:http://dimitar.me/?p=62
[21:54] <Slart> pcgenius: usually not
[21:54] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: nah since Linux programs tend to hardly take up any space
[21:54] <bazhang> !pl | marcin__
[21:55] <pcgenius> pcgenius:i know this but it can be done by setting the Pin-Priority
[21:55] <pcgenius> Slart:i know this but it can be done by setting the Pin-Priority
[21:55] <marcin__> thx
[21:55] <pcgenius> Slart:i agree that it not works all time
[21:55] <sebsebseb> istvan: did I help you with something? I don't remember
[21:56] <Slart> pcgenius: I'm not really convinced that earlier versions of packages are available from the repos
[21:56] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: omg I'm so dumb! I can't believe I overlooked simply deleting stuff. I was so surprised by the 0 bytes I thought it must have been a virus or something! Anyway, thanks a lot!
[21:57] <ARMENIAN> Why aren't ubuntu's repos updated, so many programs are older versions such as specto for one
[21:57] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: what was the problem?
[21:57] <Lucifer_Cat> hey folks. i am running ubuntu netbook remix on my netbook, and for some reason, the top taskbar is not available. and all the windows open with thier top bar out of the frame
[21:57] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, there are lots of programs to maintain, you can help out if you want ;)
[21:57] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: was downloading a couple of stuff, and my space runs out
[21:57] <pcgenius> Slart:yes you right
[21:57] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: how much space do you have?
[21:57] <jdu> which is best: qemu or virtualbox for running xp on ubuntu?
[21:57] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, last i checked there were around 25,000 packages and each package needs a maintainer
[21:57] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: ohh, hmm, well I'm no programmer or anything but how could i help?
[21:57] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: free space? Right now, some 300 mb, but a couple of minutes ago 0 bytes.
[21:57] <picca> jdu: virtualbox
[21:58] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: yeah  how big is your partition?
[21:58] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, you don't need to be a programmer, but you 'adopt' a program, if you will
[21:58] <jdu> picca: any particular reason?
[21:58] <pcgenius> Slart:but it can be done if you have a eariler package sepreatly
[21:58] <picca> jdu: seems to run faster for me, and very easy to setup
[21:58] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: I'm on a Wubi system. I guess it's like 5 GB
[21:58] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: ohh, ok, like keep tabs on updates or w.e.
[21:58] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, also you have to learn how to package debs, but it is actually pretty easy once you get good at it
[21:58] <hou5ton> I posted this question in the forums 5 days ago ... but no responses.  I'm using Jaunty on a laptop, dual monitor to the LEFT. When I go to System/Display and configure screens as such, it makes the monitor on my LEFT the main screen.
[21:58] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: what's your set up?  I mean does not sound that good, when you run out of space after a few downloads.
[21:58] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: is there a page you can direct me to with some info?
[21:58] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: oh Wubi hum
[21:59] <Lucifer_Cat> how do i get to the administrative tools if the taskbar is not visible?
[21:59] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, to contributing or packaging debs?
[21:59] <Slart> pcgenius: true.. it might work if the previous package is in the cache too..not sure though.. but you can install an earlier package using dpkg too, if you just download the deb
[21:59] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: both, if possible
[21:59] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: but I had a normal installation, had the same problem (hence started using Wubi). I had like, 50 GB on that one! But yeah, it's true, I had tons of movies
[21:59] <jdu> picca: thanks
[21:59] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: but it could really take you by surprise at times!
[21:59] <bazhang> !contribute | ARMENIAN
[21:59] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, alright, i have to look around for documentation on packaging debs, but in the meantime, see above
[21:59] <pcgenius> Slart:yes we can do this using dpkg -i <name of package>
[21:59] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: well I am glad Wubi has worked out for you without experiencing any weird can't boot it issues and such,  but stuff like that can happen,  which is one of the few or so reasons,  why a lot of more experienced Ubuntu users, woudn't recommended Wubi
[22:00] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: ok, thanks
[22:00] <picca> jdu: np
[22:00] <bazhang> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide ARMENIAN https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[22:00] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: I've been using a normal installation for like, 2 years, Wubi for 3 or 4 months, I've noticed absolutely no difference (except it messes up my hostname, but I haven't bothered to fix that)
[22:01] <myself> what is this network called
[22:01] <erpo> Text is missing from Openoffice's buttons and dialog boxes. Sometimes when I mouse over buttons the text comes back. Sometimes when I mouse over buttons where there is no text, the text reappears. Sometimes when I minimize a window and then restore it, some of the missing text is displayed, and sometimes not.
[22:01] <erpo> Suggestions?
[22:01] <bazhang> !freenode > myself
[22:02] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: thanks :)
[22:02] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, here we go: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[22:02] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: well it will run slower than a real proper install when Windows is not fragmented properly, espesailly if that real Ubuntu install is using Ext4.      If something really bad happens to Windows, then  it will probably  happen to Wubi, as well.   However in my eyes Ubuntu with Wubi is better than no Ubuntu at all.
[22:02] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, you can also use checkinstall to make it even easier
[22:02] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: above when Windows is fragmented it might make Wubi run slower
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> I perfer to run Ubuntu in 'virtualbox' instead of in wubi.
[22:03] <Sorinello> how can I find something in some teext files ?
[22:03] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: ok ill take a look :)
[22:03] <Sorinello> i mean not file names, text in text files
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> Sorinello:  the grep command is designed for that task.
[22:03] <Sorinello> thanks
[22:03] <guntbert> erpo: you've been told in #openoffice.org waht you should do
[22:03] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: also if something happens to Wubi where it won't just boot, you can't just put in a Live CD, and access your files,  which is something you can do, with a proper partitioned install
[22:03] <erpo> guntbert: I left that channel. Is there a channel log?
[22:04] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: ext4? Hmm... haven't tried it. So it's fast, eh? To be honest, I haven't noticed much difference. But now that I know what the problem is, I'll happily go back to my normal installation!
[22:04] <guntbert> erpo: rejoin, I'll repeat for you
[22:04] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: Ext4  will be the default file system in Ubuntu 9.10,  but people can have it now as well.
[22:04] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: it's  rather stable now
[22:04] <tuxFan> how do I remove apt sources?
[22:04] <erpo> guntbert: I will. Thank you. :)
[22:04] <Sorinello> Dr_Willis: can you give me a example ? i want to scan throught multiple files
[22:04] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: hey, can't you use a Live CD with Wubi? I mean, you like, cd into C: and go into ubuntu or something, and your files should be there, right?
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> Sorinello:  grep is documented in its man pages and in<PHONE_NUMBER>0's of web sites
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> grep pattern filename
[22:05] <bazhang> tuxFan, comment them out using # in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:05] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: well yeah, but a Live CD can't just access the wubi file, that it puts into Windows
[22:05] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: it can only access real proper partitions
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> Sorinello:  theres books written about grep and its companion tools awk and sed. :)
[22:05] <texasjack> To NumLock initiate active on shell (bash), just using 'numlockx'?
[22:06] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: Ubuntu 9.04 with Ext4, boots much quicker than with Ext3
[22:06] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: Oh. I've actually been putting symlinks in my Wubi partition to my actual files in the normal partition! So yeah, not much of a problem there. Anyway, thanks a lot for your help! I'll try to delete a couple of files now
[22:06] <Jimmey> I have a trailer in 720p in .wmv format - How can I convert it to as close quality in .avi with ffmpeg?
[22:06] <_rowena_> reenode.net
[22:06] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: when you do your next  partitioned install,  a seperate home is probably a good idea
[22:06] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: I don't suppose you could *change* the filesystem on an installation, could you?
[22:07] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: 12GB or so for / and big seperate home, and sure a swap
[22:07] <chachin> yo
[22:07] <cabrey> Jimmey, #ffmpeg is well versed in video formats and encoding options, try that channel for an optimal conversation
[22:07] <cabrey> conversion*
[22:07] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: yeah, I do have a separate /home, but it got clogged up! Was torrenting something
[22:07] <Jimmey> cabrey, will do. Thanks
[22:07] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: well wubi I think is bsically a Ext2 partition,   can't change wubi's filesystem or whatever it is, to something else.
[22:08] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: Ext3 can be converted to Ext4, but  it won't be quite the real thing
[22:08] <edbian> sebsebseb: What exactly do you lose by converting?
[22:08] <LaHire> Hi
[22:08] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: no, I'm not gonna use Wubi anymore, I'm just using it as a temporary system. Now I know what the problem is, I can go back to my original installation. But how do I convert my Ext3 to Ext4?
[22:08] <patrik> Hi, I'm having some trouble install 8.04 from a USB stick. I drops me of at the initramfs and says: "EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option..." any ideas?
[22:08] <Jimmey> y
[22:08] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: is it risky?
[22:08] <JasonX> how do i stall a tar.gz theme?
[22:09] <cabrey> sofiankrt, not risky, you just won't reap the full benefits of the ext4 filesystem
[22:09] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: not sure how up to date the release notes are for 9.04, but it explains there,  how to convert and such.
[22:09] <magician0617> jasonX  do you have gnome looks enabled
[22:09] <CSSnub> In a script I want to store fortune output to a variable. What does that line look like?
[22:09] <JasonX> magician0617 good question :S
[22:10] <sofiankrt> cabrey, sebsebseb: ok, thanks a lot!
[22:10] <magician0617> JasonX sorry i meant ubuntu looks
[22:10] <CSSnub> fortuneoutput=fortune
[22:10] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: I said stable  sure, but probably more stable with the proper 2.6.30 kernel which will be in 9.10
[22:10] <JasonX> magician0617 good question again
[22:10] <LaHire> Is there a way to control the CPU fan and tell it to keep cooling instead of reading the temperature of the system?
[22:10] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: so I might as well wait for that?
[22:10] <JasonX> magician0617  how do i tuirn that on
[22:10] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: 2.6.28 and 2.6.29 have some patches or whatever.
[22:10] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: it's not worth it to convert now?
[22:10] <cabrey> sofiankrt, IMHO you should wait for 9.10 and do a clean format
[22:11] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: well the Fedora 11 people think Ext4 is really stable now, hence why   there distro will use it by default, but  when it comes to the more cutting edge stuff, Ubuntu is basically always a bit behind distros such as Fedora
[22:11] <magician0617> JasonX go to add remove and search for it if it is not there go to your package manager and search for it.   Waiting for ubuntu 9.10 and upgrading will not make it ext4
[22:11] <tuxFan> I try to add a link in software sources -" deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/transmissionbt/ubuntu <ubuntu_release_name> main"  but its broken and I cant remove it , even worst its not listed in there any ideas?
[22:11] <sagredo> Hi. My Jaunty install just completely crapped out on me. I can't even boot into recovery mode - I'm in a Live CD now, can anyone help me check my disk for errors or direct me to error logs where I could troubleshoot this futher?
[22:11] <eslu> Anyone here that could help me with Samba? I have problems sharing folders without getting the login propmt?
[22:11] <eslu> prompt*
[22:11] <bazhang> tuxFan, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   place # in front of sources you wish not to be read; save and close, then sudo apt-get update
[22:12] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: I am currently running 9.04 with / as Ext4,  my former home partition as Ext3, and another data partition as Ext3
[22:12] <edbian> sebsebseb: What do you miss by converting ext3 to ext4?  I hear all the time that it is not the same as a fresh ext4 partitioning but why??
[22:12] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: I think the main thing is to have / in Ext4 :)
[22:12] <cabrey> edbian, ext2 -> ext3 was a minor change, but ext3 -> ext4 was a large rewrite
[22:12] <cabrey> edbian, hence you
[22:12] <sofiankrt> cabrey: yeah, I've always had this question. So okay, I've got my files, Music, Documents, etc, which I can easily back up. But what about the other things? My firefox bookmarks? Pidgin logs? Compiz settings? Is there an easy way to move all this stuff into another system without copying the whole /home?
[22:12] <bazhang> tuxFan, please keep it in channel (ie not PM)
[22:12] <sagredo> Hi. My Jaunty install just completely crapped out on me. I can't even boot into recovery mode - I'm in a Live CD now, can anyone help me check my disk for errors or direct me to error logs where I could troubleshoot this futher?
[22:13] <JasonX> magician0617 i am searching for "gnome looks right"
[22:13] <cabrey> edbian, hence you're trying to convert an entirely different filesystem to a new one without losing data, so they're have to be some features disabled
[22:13] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: so basically, the good thing about Ext4 is booting speed, right? No other noticeable advantage?
[22:13] <kbrosnan> sofiankrt: ~/.program name for the most part
[22:13] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: Pidgin the .purple folder can just be copied  and used on a new install no problem
[22:13] <cabrey> edbian, FS's can become quite complex, and its a bit offtopic
[22:13] <kbrosnan> sofiankrt: for example firefox info at http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Backing+up+your+information
[22:13] <magician0617> JasonX Search for Ubuntu Looks  (my bad I told you the wrong thing)
[22:13] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: Firefox and Thunderbird and such well,    it's not quite as simple as just copying  the profile, and  having the new install picking up on it no problem.   Ext4 is better with bigger files as well
[22:13] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: is there no program which compiles all this stuff for you? There should be some sort of "important info backup" program out there
[22:13] <thiebaude> sofiankrt: : i notice it use a few less system resources for me
[22:14] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: there are backup programs
[22:14] <sebsebseb> !backup > sofiankrt
[22:14] <JasonX> magician0617 no "ubuntu looks" found in ad/remove
[22:14] <eslu> Anyone here that could help me with Samba? I have problems sharing folders without getting the login prompt?
[22:14] <sofiankrt> thiebaude: when installed on /? So there are no advantages to using it on /home?
[22:15] <edbian> sofiankrt: All of those settings and stuff are in /home  They + your personal files are "the entire home"
[22:15] <magician0617> JasonX  go to system>administration>synaptic package manager and look there
[22:15] <tuxFan> bazhang find it , but  how do I open it as superuser?
[22:15] <thiebaude> sofiankrt: i only installed it on / then formatted /
[22:15] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: so basically, I would package a file and submit it, right?
[22:15] <sofiankrt> edbian: but there are a few things on my /home that it'd just be wasteful to backup, right? Isn't there a program that filters these out?
[22:15] <bazhang> tuxFan, gksudo gedit (gksudo for graphical apps)
[22:15] <ARMENIAN> a program*
[22:15] <DsBoy> hi can i use ubuntu on linux.nds
[22:15] <gartral> !sudo | tuxfan
[22:16] <sebsebseb> edbian and I guess you as well  sofiankrt    no  I am not saying go and put on  the  9.10 alpha2  ,but yes go to the ext4 as default section on this page. http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha2
[22:16] <sofiankrt> thiebaude: ok, I'll try Ext4ing / when 9.10 comes out
[22:16] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: you can do / now
[22:16] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, yes, you would become a maintainer of that package and it would be on you to update it so people don't come in here asking why packages are out of date ;)
[22:16] <rski> hello i would like to use the ext atime option
[22:16] <thiebaude> sofiankrt: yea, on 9.10 its default
[22:16] <rski> what's the de facto guide to follow
[22:16] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: and it's not risky?
[22:16] <rski> i dont want to screw anything up :)
[22:16] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: as for  /home in Ext3 well  that's ok for now
[22:17] <DsBoy> can i use ubuntu on Linux.nds ?
[22:17] <thiebaude> sofiankrt: i use it on the whole drive
[22:17] <eslu> Anyone here that could help me with Samba? I have problems sharing folders without getting the login prompt?  But i dont have any problems with login prompts when i enter the computer at Network in Windows?
[22:17] <rski> DsBoy: what's that
[22:17] <tuxFan> bazhang , killer
[22:17] <Myrtti> DsBoy: what's that?
[22:17] <tuxFan> thax man
[22:17] <DsBoy> a linux homebrew
[22:17] <voracious> I have two nic, both works. But while I use them together, it is not working
[22:17] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: ok, makes sense, but in theory, couldn't a person who wanted, put malicious code in the program then compile it and submit it?
[22:17] <rski> whats a linux homebrew
[22:17] <voracious> ifconfig displays only one nic, but not other
[22:17] <rski> sounds like a beer
[22:17] <DsBoy> For ds
[22:17] <scott\> mmm beer
[22:17] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: I think  Ext4 is fine in 9.04,  just if a later kernel gets installed maybe  need Grub 2 installed really
[22:17] <voracious> how to enable both nic???
[22:18] <gartral> !beer > rski
[22:18] <ikonia> sebsebseb: what are you talking about ?
[22:18] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, there are always testers and plus, we would hope that those people wouldn't do that and if they did, there would probably be legal consequences
[22:18] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: ok, there's another problem. Just before I got the 0 bytes thing, I was apt-getting a flight simulator. So I tried doing sudo apt-get remove and autoremove, but it didn't change anything. How do I know it's been completely removed?
[22:18] <CSSnub> I want to store the entire output of fortune to a variable in a script. Something like $fortvar=$( fortune ) only one that works. :) Any help?
[22:18] <Myrtti> DsBoy: I've never heard of such
[22:18] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: just stay with Ext3 for now probably easier
[22:18] <carpii> try uhm a=`fortune` ?
[22:18] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: ok, that's good, especially since there are testers
[22:19] <sagredo> how do I mount my laptop's harddrive from the Live CD so I can backup the data before a fresh install?
[22:19] <ryoushi19> K, I've been having the same problem for about a week now, and not one update, post, or message has helped.  It's completely crippled my computer to the point that I can't even log in.  Every time I log in, it tells me the X server is already running on display 0:.  It asks me if I want to start it on a different display number.  If I say yes, it goes back to gdm and tells me when I log in the same error, except with :1 an
[22:19] <ryoushi19> d so on.  If i say no, it just gives me the same error.   This should never happen in a mainstream OS, ever, and I'm completely disgusted by the fact that it's stayed a problem this long.  Any solutions?  Anyone?
[22:19] <CSSnub> fortune is the operation that returns the string I want to store
[22:19] <thiebaude> sofiankrt: then when you upgrade to 9.10 later this year ext4 will be default
[22:19] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, you can practice packaging with your own PPA
[22:19] <carpii> CSSnub, yeah that works
[22:19] <CSSnub> oh ok
[22:19] <carpii> a=`fortune`     echo $a
[22:19] <CSSnub> ty :)
[22:19] <carpii> backticks though, not single quotes
[22:19] <sofiankrt> thiebaude: when I upgrade the system, it'll automatically convert my filesystem? Or do I have to do a fresh install?
[22:19] <CSSnub> ah ok
[22:19] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: yeah I'm going to give it a try now with specto :D
[22:20] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: you need to do a clean install for proper Ext4 support.   so if your clean install is Ubuntu 9.10  well it does Ext4 by default
[22:20] <DsBoy> someone can i use ubuntu on Linux.nds ?
[22:20] <thiebaude> sofiankrt: yep as sebsebseb is saying
[22:20] <sofiankrt> sebsebseb: but does an upgrade attempt to change the file system?
[22:20] <sebsebseb> sofiankrt: no
[22:20] <Darael> sofiankrt: nope.
[22:21] <ikonia> Darael: could you expand on your question please ?
[22:21] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: but, wait, if theres a .deb package on their site, doesn't that mean there's a compiled package ready to go already?
[22:22] <DsBoy> can i use ubuntu on Linux.nds ?v
[22:22] <Darael> ikonia: what question?
[22:22] <Steffan_> hmm
[22:22] <ikonia> Darael: sorry - miss-type
[22:22] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, yes
[22:22] <losher> DsBoy: we aren't even sure what linux.nds is. Linux for the Nintendo DS ?
[22:22] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, usually
[22:22] <ikonia> DsBoy: no
[22:22] <CSSnub> Woot - cowsay fortune script for the win.
[22:22] <ikonia> DsBoy: linux.ds IS the linux port
[22:22] <DsBoy> can i use ubuntu on DSLinux
[22:22] <ARMENIAN> cabrey: so, I don't even need to package anything, i just need to submit it right?
[22:22] <Myrtti> DsBoy: no.
[22:23] <CSSnub> thanks all :)
[22:23] <bazhang> DsBoy, no not possible with the amount of ram involved
[22:23] <sagredo> Hi
[22:23] <Darael> ikonia: ah - I se - no worie.
[22:23] <stealth-> A wine program is saying I have only 4gb of disk space left and wont allow me to install a program since it requires 5 gb. I have, in reality, over 100 gigs of extra space. Why is this happening?
[22:23] <cabrey> ARMENIAN, i'm not exactly sure in those situations, but you might be able to
[22:23] <ikonia> stealth-: wine uses a virtual file system to act as a virtual "C" drive for your applications, depends how you setup wine
[22:24] <stealth-> ikonia: well I looked at the winecfg program, and there didnt seem to be any limitations set.
[22:24] <eslu> Could anyone please help me setup Samba for Windows Sharing? I'm trying to make insecure samba sharing for my home, which doesn't require any username or passwords at all to create&read files on it? Currently i have no sucess, im stuck with login prompts with my shared folders.
[22:25] <ikonia> stealth-: I'm not a big wine user so don't really get under the hood on it much, maybe #wine-hq could provide more detail ?
[22:25] <stealth-> ikonia: k, thanks
[22:25] <calc> eslu: i may be able to pastebin my smb.conf
[22:25] <eslu> anyone? ;o
[22:25] <eslu> yay
[22:26] <stealth-> ikonia: are you sure thats what the channels called? its empty when I get there. 0_0
[22:26] <ikonia> sorry #winehq
[22:26] <bazhang> #winehq
[22:26] <edbian> stealth-: #winehq
[22:26] <edbian> no -
[22:26] <stealth-> k
[22:26] <chachin> wtf when did this channel gain 1427 people :o
[22:26] <DsBoy> can i use ubuntu on DSLinux ?
[22:27] <ikonia> chachin: 1.) wtf is not needed - we know what it means and don't need to see it, 2.) it's been a large channel for years now
[22:27] <ikonia> DsBoy: do not ask about it again please.
[22:27] <edbian> DsBoy: what is DSLinux?
[22:27] <ikonia> edbian: linux port for the DS
[22:28] <chachin> ikonia.. :P
[22:28] <dflpride> is anyone here that can help me with aircrack-ng
[22:28] <edbian> DsBoy: Ubuntu are DSLinux are both variations on Linux.  You cannot run one on the other.
[22:28] <chachin> last night it had 1337
[22:28] <mlissner> I have a quick scripting question.
[22:28] <cabrey> mlissner, bash script?
[22:28] <liufeng> thanks
[22:28] <mlissner> I'm trying to do message=$(cat /dev/stdin)
[22:29] <mlissner> Unfortunately though, when I do that, it removes the newline characters.
[22:29] <mlissner> cabrey: yep
[22:29] <edbian> mlissner: $ goes in front message to make it a variable right?
[22:29] <DsBoy> how change my usr password?
[22:29] <ikonia> DsBoy: use the useradmin gui
[22:29] <cabrey> mlissner, #bash is fantastic for scripting help :) if you don't get any help here
[22:29] <mlissner> edbian, I don't think so, when assigning variables, right?
[22:29] <DsBoy> Where
[22:30] <IRConan> mlissner: you're right
[22:30] <mlissner> cabrey: good to know. Hadn't tries that yet.
[22:30] <stealth-> DsBoy: from the terminal: passwd or use the users and groups program in System>administration>Users and groups
[22:30] <edbian> mlissner: I'm not sure that was 1/2 guess :)  try #bash
[22:30] <ikonia> DsBoy: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[22:30] <leser> Hi, How do I change my language after the instalation?
[22:30] <DsBoy> ah my dad cant change my acc AND pass thats fine
[22:30] <chocobanana1> leser: menu System > Administration > Languages
[22:31] <ikonia> DsBoy: what version of ubuntu are you using
[22:31] <DsBoy> last one
[22:31] <rski> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107856
[22:31] <ikonia> DsBoy: which one
[22:31] <ikonia> DsBoy: please show me the output of uname -a
[22:31] <rski> does this guide work for 9.04?
[22:31] <DsBoy> downloaded today
[22:32] <leser> it failed
[22:32] <DsBoy> the latest versiion
[22:32] <ikonia> DsBoy: use the menu "system -> administration -> users and gruops"
[22:32] <ikonia> DsBoy: please show me the output of the command "uname -a"
[22:32] <DsBoy> ?
[22:32] <leser> Error on GPG
[22:32] <ikonia> DsBoy: open a termina from the "applications -> accessories" menu and show me the output of the uname -a command
[22:32] <rkymtndave_> how do i move my home folder to second hdd?
[22:32] <chocobanana1> leser: did you add any 3rd party repositories?
[22:33] <DsBoy> im not on ubuntu noow
[22:33] <edbian> rski:  I think that "noatime" is a default so that change will do nothing these days.
[22:33] <ikonia> DsBoy: ok
[22:33] <leser> no
[22:33] <leser> Do I need it?
[22:33] <rski> edbian: it's not the default
[22:34] <edbian> rski: Then nevermind.  I don't know if they will have an effect on ubuntu 9.04
[22:34] <chocobanana1> leser: can you close the languages configuration window, open Synaptic package manager (found in the same menu) and then click the reload button? Then close it and try again with the languages
[22:34] <gartral> set part-message Why is it that we rejoice at a birth and grieve at a funeral?  It is because we
[22:34] <leser> I'll try
[22:35] <gartral> oops
[22:35] <Chaorain> has anyone used http://www.ufsexplorer.com/ on xfs?
[22:36] <Chaorain> has anyone recovered data from an XFS partition before?
[22:37] <edbian> rski: The man pages says to use relatime intstead of noatime.  I do not see that writeback option anywhere though.
[22:37] <cabrey> Chaorain, you might want to try an xfs specific channel
[22:37] <cabrey> Chaorain, i've sent people to #xfs before and they've gotten their issues resolved
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> You just dont hear a lot about xfs lately
[22:39] <cabrey> Dr_Willis, yea i think ext4 & btrfs are going to dominate
[22:39] <cowgarden> hi, win7 comes without the InternetExploder in Europe, because they may not include it. Is Ubuntu allowed to include Firefox because it's not their prosuct or because Ubuntu is free?
[22:40] <edbian> cowgarden: I believe it is because ubuntu is not a monopoly :)
[22:40] <sebsebseb> cowgarden: Ubuntu can include Firefox no problem, because it's not Debian :d
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> cowgarden:  because theres no law saying it cant include it. :)
[22:40] <_dr> hi, is there someling like a changelog for beta and daily snapshots?
[22:40] <thiebaude> cowgarden: and ubuntu doesn't own firefox
[22:40] <Piccolo1> Have a blank screen after installing Nvidia driver 96.43.11 and reboot.  Using Recovery boot to repair.  Suspect setting issue.  Please advise.
[22:40] <Walex> cowgarden: Ubuntu includes several different browsers, you can use any of them
[22:40] <Chaorain> cabrey, thanks have you tried http://www.ufsexplorer.com/ before?
[22:40] <cowgarden> Walex, no, just Firefox is preinstalled
[22:41] <PhotoJim> cowgarden: it's also really easy to install other browsers like Epiphay.  Windows doesn't natively let you install other browsers directly.  they have to have their own installation utilities to install.
[22:41] <cabrey> Chaorain, nope, only stick to the ext{x} series
[22:41] <cowgarden> PhotoJim, thats right
[22:41] <cowgarden> btw, whats a good lightweight browser? (a bit more advanced than link2)
[22:41] <cabrey> cowgarden, graphical?
[22:42] <sebsebseb> cowgarden: Windows 7 without IE8   I am not sure about that
[22:42] <orrie> cowgarden: for console? lynx.
[22:42] <cowgarden> cabrey, yes
[22:42] <cowgarden> orrie, grafical :)
[22:42] <orrie> i saw that ;)
[22:42] <cabrey> cowgarden, well the chrome preview is fantastic and blows FF away
[22:42] <meanburrito920_> I'm having issues with my default keyring, I dont ever remember setting a password for it but It doesnt accept any password I enter when it prompts to be unlocked.
[22:42] <cabrey> cowgarden, but there is also epiphany
[22:42] <meanburrito920_> strangely enough, all my keys work fine without unlocking it
[22:42] <sebsebseb> cabrey: still better to promote Firefox, beause of browser market share reasons
[22:42] <cowgarden> cabrey, I fear chrome :)
[22:43] <cabrey> cowgarden, why?
[22:43] <tuxFan>   thank you for the help, Cya peace
[22:43] <cabrey> sebsebseb, no as long as IE doesn't have it, i dont care who does
[22:43] <wandering> I'm sorry to bother you with such a trivial question, but the first time I installed 9.04, my wireless was working, when I reinstalled the system it now has it listed as an unknown device. There is traffic coming, but it doesn't recognize it as a wireless device
[22:43] <calc> cowgarden: google is going to eat your brain ;-)
[22:43] <cowgarden> cabrey, I don't know. I shouldn't since its open-source but google ....
[22:43] <cowgarden> calc, yea, I is my brain by now /me is using gmail
[22:43] <thiebaude> google is open source
[22:44] <cowgarden> thiebaude, chrome, not google :)
[22:44] <cabrey> cowgarden, erm well chromium is the open source version of chrome if you prefer that
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Google's stuff is closed source most of it
[22:44] <sebsebseb> !ot
[22:44] <cowgarden> sebsebseb, ot-ing yourself?
[22:44] <sebsebseb> cowgarden: no ot'ing the whole group
[22:45] <sebsebseb> cowgarden: ,but without the names hum
[22:45] <edbian> !ot | edbian
[22:45] <edbian> sebsebseb: It's kinda fun
[22:45] <calc> my office is such a mess its hard to even know where to start cleaning, heh /me wanders off to clean it... somehow
[22:45] <hou5ton> I posted this question in the forums 5 days ago ... but no responses.  I'm using Jaunty on a laptop, dual monitor to the LEFT. When I go to System/Display and configure screens as such, it makes the monitor on my LEFT the main screen.
[22:45] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: haha
[22:46] <JasonX> hey how do I get this Compiz thing to work ? ? ?
[22:46] <edbian> hou5ton: Just flip it?  Make the dual monitor to the right?
[22:46] <JasonX> I want the cube display
[22:47] <edbian> JasonX: Are you getting that fun little "cannot be enabled" message?
[22:47] <Stringz> how can we make the dual monitor to the right?????/
[22:47] <hou5ton> edbian:  I've tried that ... and it does indeed then make the MAIN monitor the laptop one, which it is supposed to be, but then to go from the laptop monitor to the dual, you actually take the mouse the opposite direction.
[22:48] <JasonX> edbian good question, i havent attemped anything as yet
[22:48] <nsahoo> can I make evince dual view show both the first and second pages first up?
[22:48] <edbian> JasonX: Alrighty then.  Before we start what kind of video card do you have?
[22:48] <JasonX> edbian but i do know that my screen doesnt rotate and flip like my brothres
[22:48] <edbian> JasonX: Well we'll see about that...
[22:48] <JasonX> edbian , on a netbook (acer aspireone)
[22:48] <orrie> Stringz: If you have an Nvidia, then write nvidia-settings in the terminal
[22:48] <gmap> i have 2 ubuntu machines on the same network. how can I ping them by hostname instead of by ip address?
[22:49] <edbian> JasonX: I have the very same netbook!
[22:49] <edbian> JasonX: And yes compiz works :)
[22:49] <calc> gmap: hostname.local
[22:49] <edbian> JasonX: Are you running ubuntu 9.04??
[22:49] <JasonX> edbian ok well is there a keyboard combination i need to press to rotate the screens ? ?
[22:49] <wandering> does anyone have any tips on getting my wireless recognized? When I look at it as an unknown connection, I see traffic. Yet it doesn't recognize it as a wireless device in the connection manager...which is strange, because on the last install it did :/
[22:50] <orrie> Stringz: Or you could fix this in System > Usersomethingoptions > Display
[22:50] <mweichert_> has anyone noticed any freezing issues with Jaunty? I find that my system is freezing randomly... I think it might be related to evince.
[22:50] <Darael> JasonX: you need to change some compiz settings to get a cube instead of a wall
[22:50] <edbian> JasonX: Yeah but we have to turn compiz on first.  Go to System -> Preferences -> Apperance -> Desktop Effects Tab
[22:50] <mweichert_> it's weird... the system freezes then reboots itself
[22:50] <roxie> help: i have the newest version of ubuntu netbook remix and i want to make a custom folder to add to the right side of the panel... i made a folder and dragged it over and so far it displays the folder, but when i click it, it doesnt open... any suggestions? the folder i dragged over is working properly because the files in there are readable, but to access them i have to go through [home] then click on the folder manually... i ju
[22:50] <roxie> st want to be able to click on the folder and for it to automatically open for a quicker way to access it...
[22:50] <wandering> mweichert_, mine is hella laggy :p
[22:51] <Piccolo1> I'm having problems with Nvidia driver install of 96.43.11.  After install it only shows a blank screen on reboot.  Can use grub recovery to fix back to default driver.  Fresh install.  Thoughts?
[22:51] <Stringz> hmmmm.. I get that.. thanks
[22:51] <gmap> calc do i have configure /etc/hosts on each machine to bind the ip to the hostname?
[22:51] <JasonX> edbian ok, and it needs to be "extra" selected right/.?
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> roxie:  make a script that launches nautilus with the folder name as an argument to open it. perhaps...
[22:52] <orrie> gmap: think so
[22:52] <leser> worked. Thank you
[22:52] <edbian> JasonX: yeah.  Does it work or does it error out?  (It should work)
[22:52] <gmap> orrie, so that means i need static IP's? I cannot use a DHCP router to assign ips?
[22:52] <roxie> Dr_Willis: how do you do that??? i am new to ubuntu...
[22:52] <Darael> edbian, JasonX:  in some cases even "extra only gives the wall rather than the cube
[22:53] <JasonX> edbian i have it selected, ok  my screen (when i drag it now woobles)
[22:53] <edbian> JasonX: They're right but we'll get to that part
[22:53] <gaston_> hola
[22:53] <orrie> gmap: You can use DHCP since it binds the host to localhost
[22:53] <orrie> or something like that
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> roxie:  time to learn some shell basics.. make a text file with 2 lines, first one #!/bin/bash, 2nd line nautilus path/to/dir/to/open &
[22:53] <edbian> JasonX: Yeah which is badass right?  Right.  Ok now you need to install the compiz config settings manager from the repos.  Do you know how to install software from the repos?
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> roxie:  or just use the bookmarks feature of nautilus.... thats even easier
[22:53] <ibuclaw> roxie, you could create a Desktop Launcher
[22:53] <JasonX> edbian i have it selected, ok  my screen (when i drag it now woobles)
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> for the netbook remix - i disabled that annoyhint netbook interfacce
[22:54] <roxie> Dr_Willis: how do i use the bookmarks feature of nautilus??? i am using ubuntu netbook remix
[22:54] <JasonX> edbian repo as in synaptic ?
[22:54] <Stringz> it's ok orrie. I am using dell...
[22:54] <Stringz> I am pretty sure, I  don't have nivedia
[22:54] <Darael> gmap: some routers wcan be configured to always assign a given MAC address the same IP.  It wouldn't bind to hostname, but to network adapter, but that's probably enough
[22:54] <edbian> JasonX: Yeah, the repos are accessed through synaptic
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> roxie:  you are using nautilus as your file manager.. run a file manager.. explore it.. you can add shortcits to the left side panel, or the the bookmarks menus...
[22:54] <edbian> JasonX: There are other ways too but synaptic will work fine
[22:55] <edbian> JasonX: search: "compiz config settings manager" or something like that
[22:55] <ibuclaw> roxie, to add bookmarks, press "Ctrl+D", or go "Bookmarks->Add Bookmark"
[22:55] <Darael> edbian, JasonX: the package is "compizconfig-settings-manager" IIRC
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> Linux the 'expore and learn OS!'
 roxie:  you are using nautilus as your file manager.. run a file manager.. explore it.. you can add shortcits to the left side panel, or the the bookmarks menus...
[22:56] <edbian> JasonX: Ok now get ready cause the compiz config settings manager (CCSM) is a massive complex GUI for configuring compiz.  Each plugin is listed in there and it can be overwhelming at first.
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> roxie:  yes... add a bookmark...
[22:56] <JasonX> edbian ok have the selected repo. and then
[22:56] <gaston_> hola...alguien que hable castellano
[22:56] <roxie> Dr_Willis: yes i have done that... now the folder shows but when i click on it, the folder doesnt open
[22:56] <edbian> JasonX: You installed it?
[22:56] <JasonX> edbian installin Phythin-compiz
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> roxie:  it opens here for me.. well it goes to the location i guess you can say...
[22:56] <Darael> edbian: I realise I'm butting in a lot here, but the "simple-ccsm" might be better if we're just looking for the cube without the enormous levels of control in ccsm
[22:57] <gaston_> alguien que hable español
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> roxie:  i open a file manager, click on the location in the left panel.. it goes there...
[22:57] <edbian> JasonX: get simple-ccsm
[22:57] <edbian> Darael: Thank you I have never heard of that!
[22:57] <gaston_> estoy en un aprieto...me puede dar alguien una ayudita
[22:57] <Darael> edbian: it adds a "custom" section to the desktop effects setting, with a simplified ccsm
[22:58] <JasonX> edbian installing it now
[22:58] <edbian> Darael: Awesome thank you!  That is perfect!