[08:46] <ttoine> zequence, check http://ubuntustudio.spreadshirt.fr/
[08:46] <ttoine> I eventually found some time yesterday evening
[08:46] <ttoine> I sent a email to Zak
[08:47] <zequence> ttoine: Nice, but why is the text below the CoF on the cup?
[08:47] <ttoine> zequence, because it was not possible to do it in landscape
[08:48] <ttoine> the print zone on the mug is divided in 3 portrait
[08:48] <ttoine> and in landscape, it would have been very very small
[08:49] <ttoine> and so, the logo is not in the good position
[08:49] <zequence> ttoine: How abut just keeping the CoF then?
[08:49] <ttoine> I think I will redo the mug with the design of the white shirt
[08:49] <zequence> It looks a bit weird to me. The placement is off
[08:50] <ttoine> zequence, another possibility is to let the cof on one side, and put the text on another print zone, for example on the left border of the center print zone
[08:50] <zequence> ttoine: That would be great, if you could do it
[08:50] <zequence> yes, that would work too
[08:50] <ttoine> what is strange is that in the svg Zak send me, I can't do anything except export to bitmap
[08:50] <ttoine> it is locked
[08:50] <ttoine> I don't know how he did that
[08:51] <zequence> you should be able to unlock stuff
[08:51] <ttoine> in inkscape, I can't find where
[08:51] <ttoine> he should have used an authoring option I don't know
[08:51] <ttoine> zequence, except the mug, what do you think of the shirt ?
[08:51] <zequence> He's back now, so he should be able to help (he was gone for a few weeks now)
[08:52] <ttoine> I selected direct digital printing, because transfer was possible only on white
[08:52] <ttoine> and this is organic cotton
[08:52] <zequence> The t-shirts look good, I think
[08:52] <ttoine> I could have used a very basic cotton shirt to get it 3 or 4 € less expensive
[08:53] <ttoine> but I remember that zak and you would like to have nice hardware
[08:53] <ttoine> quality hardware
[08:53] <ttoine> just to let you know, I can suggest the default color for every logo, but people can select another color if they want
[08:54] <zequence> I guess at least so you don't feel ashamed of it :P. The price is a bit high, but maybe it's worth it? I'm going to buy a t-shirt right away
[08:55] <ttoine> I think I will buy the blue one, i'll check if I can this month. with the moving from lyon to vercors, I am a bit short
[08:56] <ttoine> zequence, I updated the mug whith a cof in the good direction
[08:57] <ttoine> As soon as I have some news from Zak, I will ask him How I can split the design in to separate parts. Keep in mind that the mug will be more expensive with to printed zone, so maybe we will have to keep the current one, and add the second one, more expensive
[08:58] <ttoine> zequence,  I show spreadshirt to my Boss, and he asked me to work on stuff for Bonitasoft Community ;-)
[08:58] <ttoine> oh, and please, could you spread the world about our merchandise shop ?
[09:00] <zequence> ttoine: I just want to try the t-shirt and make sure I know all the details about this, then I'll create a page for it on our website
[09:00] <ttoine> ok
[09:00] <zequence> The t-shirt should be here in a few days.
[09:01] <ttoine> I'll send just a tweet on my account. It could be good to get some feedback. after all, we are a community, it is good if people can tell us what they think
[09:01] <ttoine> zequence, which one did you take ?
[09:02] <zequence> ttoine: I took the blue one as well
[09:02] <zequence> I'll probably buy more colors later :P
[09:04] <zequence> ttoine: The mug looks much better now I think.
[09:04] <zequence> I'll buy that as well, to have a look
[09:04] <ttoine> yes sure
[16:59] <cub> Hi ttoine nice work with the shop!
[17:01] <cub> I was wondering about the sizes though, couldn't find any information on how big a Medium is for instance. And don't they sell anything smaller than M?
[18:05] <cub> Hmm I see now it sorted under "Men". If there's not any other fee involved I think we should have t-shirt sizes for women (and children) as well. I know I would buy them.
[21:44] <cub> I found the measurements for the different sizes when you clicked on the shirt. Nice.


[09:28] <AStorm> hello, I have a bit of a problem here, one particular VM that would be relatively hard to rework from scratch is stuck on 22.10 and really doesn't want to do-release-upgrade due to some shim-signed issue
[09:28] <AStorm> any ideas what to do about that?
[09:29] <AStorm> I've excluded the following: /boot/efi is correctly mounted, grub is upgraded
[09:29] <tomreyn> !eolupgrade
[09:30] <AStorm> yeah thanks I'm trying to do that
[09:30] <AStorm> it fails
[09:31] <tomreyn> i think i'm familiar with the issue, but do not know the proper solution. you may want to discuss where and how it fails, providing commands run and output produced by these, on a pastebin such as dpaste.com or a pastebin-like service such as termbin.com
[09:33] <tomreyn> bug 2037738
[09:33] -ubottu:#ubuntu-server- Bug 2037738 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Broken shim-signed / grub-efi-arm64-signed dependency on Kinetic to Lunar upgrade" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037738
[09:33] <tomreyn> oh that's a different release
[09:33] <AStorm> that is the right release
[09:33] <AStorm> kinetic being 22.10
[09:33] <tomreyn> ah yes
[09:34] <AStorm> very risky, hope this upgrades
[09:35] <AStorm> essentially removed that essential package with no mirror to get it back heh
[09:35] <AStorm> nice, it needs slightly more disk space, let me figure it out
[09:37] <tomreyn> it seems unlikely that you'll need shim-signed in a VM anyways, but you should probably make sure you have a different, sound, boot loader configuration.
[09:38] <AStorm> nah, it's hyper-v, it needs MS signed for secure boot
[09:41] <AStorm> good thing ext2 does online resize, attempt 2
[09:44] <AStorm> *ext4 actually
[09:51] <AStorm> whew it booted
[09:53] <AStorm> thanks tomreyn
[14:19] <tomreyn> AStorm: glad you worked it out, i only had the bug report handy, because someone else ran nito the same recently.


[00:04] <phunyguy> hello... I am probably doing something wrong here, but I am trying to get upstart to startx with xbmc-standalone process for my new media PC on a ubuntu server install. I have /etc/init/xbmc.conf set up to run the command, but it never runs... am I missing something?  I don't know much about upstart.
[00:05] <phunyguy> I can login as the user that it runs as and type the startx command, and it runs perfectly.
[00:06] <sarnold> phunyguy: servers don't typically have X installed, you may have better luck in #ubuntu
[00:06] <phunyguy> yeah I installed it
[00:06] <phunyguy> and I doubt it :(
[00:07] <sarnold> hehe, could be :/
[00:08] <phunyguy> but in theory, if you just put a .conf in /etc/init, with the proper parameters, upstart should start it, right?
[00:08] <sarnold> phunyguy: I think lightdm can be configured to log in a given user without bothering with password.. that might be easier than dealing with 'startx' manually from an upstart script
[00:08] <phunyguy> or am I way off there? I just think I am missing a step somewhere
[00:09] <phunyguy> sarnold: that's the thing, it works as expected if I type the command manually.
[00:09] <phunyguy> so essentially the way lightdm would be started, I just want it to start xbmc instead.
[00:19] <qman__> phunyguy, it's going to be way easier to just use a normal desktop manager and configure it to automatically do what you want than to try and make startx run by itself
[00:19] <qman__> people already figured out how to start X on boot, no need to reinvent the wheel
[00:20] <phunyguy> I didn't think it would be that difficult.... I followed a how-to, but it's just... not working.  I suppose I can have lightdm call xbmc for it's session.... no?
[00:20] <phunyguy> its*
[00:22] <phunyguy> WOW lightdm pulls in a TON of dependencies....
[00:22] <phunyguy> that was what I was trying to avoid.  :(
[00:23] <phunyguy> and sarnold, I asked in #ubuntu and got what I expected.  "Why not just use XBMCbuntu".  Ugh...
[00:24] <phunyguy> I don't want the easy way out, I want it to be what I want it to be.  :)
[00:24] <qman__> try with --no-install-recommends
[00:25] <phunyguy> that's better
[00:25] <phunyguy> 3 packages is better than 30/
[00:25] <qman__> being a desktop manager, it's going to recommend a lot of desktop stuff
[00:25] <phunyguy> yeah it was all unity related poop.
[00:27] <qman__> and if lightdm won't do what you want, there's always xdm
[00:31] <phunyguy> WOOHOO!!  Got it.  Thanks!
[00:32] <phunyguy> this is pretty.  Got it using a custom xbmc boot splash screen, then when it launches xbmc it uses the same logo as the boot splash for the app splash, just the dots dissappear... that looks neat.  Then xbmc pops up!  Thank you for your help.
[00:33] <sarnold> phunyguy: nice :)
[00:38] <EDocToor> Hello sarnold , I think that I have to put "export LS_COLORS=$LS_COLORS:"di=01;34":"di=01;33"" into my ~/.bashrc ... but where?
[00:39] <EDocToor> to change the BLUE to YELLOW
[00:40] <EDocToor> or do I ~# dircolors -p > ~/.dircolors
[00:41] <EDocToor> and edit the di=01;33 and somehow edit the bashrc to read the file
[00:41] <EDocToor> I get so close.. but too afraid to muck up
[00:42] <sarnold> EDocToor: note the bit in your ~/.bashrc near # enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
[00:43] <EDocToor> I am there..
[00:43] <dacdave> Anybody using landscape to manage ubuntu servers?
[00:46] <dacdave> I have a server running natty (11.04). Having trouble installing landscape-client. "Failed to fetch..." serveral times.
[00:47] <dacdave> Worked fine from server running precise (12.04 LTS).
[00:49] <sarnold> dacdave: natty reached end-of-life about seven months ago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:49] <sarnold> dacdave: natty's replacement reached end of life about one month ago
[00:51] <EDocToor> sarnold, add this line within the # enable if statement... maybe .... """  alias di='di --color=01;33'   """
[00:51] <sarnold> EDocToor: heh, probably easier would be to modify your ~/.dircolors file
[00:52] <EDocToor> brb
[00:54] <EDocToor> sarnold how do I run the .bashrc to see if a change has occurred
[00:54] <EDocToor> reboot
[00:54] <EDocToor> LOL
[00:55] <sarnold> EDocToor: "source .bashrc"
[00:55] <EDocToor> it seems man uses too many words that I don't understand
[00:55] <sarnold> EDocToor: but 'source' gets old, you can also run ". .bashrc"
[01:02] <EDocToor> Success
[01:02] <EDocToor> I have YELLOW directories
[01:02] <dacdave> So I have to manually install precise before I can add this server to landscape?
[01:03] <dacdave> That's what I did on my first server, but was hoping for a better path for the other four. :(
[01:03] <sarnold> dacdave: you -might- be able to use the old-releases to install landscape, and -that- might be able to help you upgrade..
[01:05] <dacdave> Thanks. I just started my trial of landscape, and I have a support ticket in with Canonical. I'll wait until I hear something from them.
[01:05] <sarnold> ah cool, they'll probably know better than I will :)
[01:18] <EDocToor> sarnold, it turns out to be : dircolors -p > ~/.dircolors ::: edit .dircolors DIR 01;33 # directory ::: and . .bashrc ::: After Reboot the DIRECTORIES are in fact YELLOW
[01:18] <sarnold> EDocToor: well done :)
[01:18] <sarnold> reboot wasn't strictly necessary, you just needed to source the ~/.bashrc in whichever shells you still had open
[01:19] <sarnold> but still, that was a few steps :) hehe
[01:20] <EDocToor> did I understand the man... not very well... but I'll watch this channel to learn the words.. REBOOT was my way of saying perminint without admitting that I can not spell it.. to tell the truth
[01:23] <sarnold> EDocToor: haha :) a new command to learn; install the bsdmainutils and wamerican packages, and you can use the 'look' command to look up words by the first few letters :) 'look perm' returns only 47 words, which makes it easy to see how to spell the word you're after. :)
[01:25] <EDocToor> sarnold.. is that on a command line server... or install on the GUI client
[01:26] <sarnold> EDocToor: whichever one is most convenient.
[01:26] <EDocToor> do you know why my "locate" doesn't always seem to locate?
[01:27] <EDocToor> I guess I have to learn to grep
[01:27] <sarnold> EDocToor: the locate database is rebuilt only occasionally
[01:27] <EDocToor> makes sense
[01:28] <EDocToor> I am so pleased with my yellow directory
[01:28] <EDocToor> bbl have to stand for a bit.. thank you very very much
[01:28] <sarnold> when I first started with linux I actually went to the effort of using a full-text indexing engine to index the entire hard drive for keywords. I could recall the keywords I wanted to change, just not where the files were located. ;) I don't thnk I'd recommend it, but I do recall spending forever trying to remember file locations.
[01:30] <EDocToor> I read the MS-DOS 3.1 front to back three times... and wrote batch files that were 5 to 7 pages long...
[01:31] <EDocToor> So I am very old
[01:31] <EDocToor> is what I am saying
[01:31] <EDocToor> as I see I am dating myself
[01:31] <sarnold> nice. when I started with dos, 5.0 had just been released and was the shiny new thing. :)
[01:32]  * genii gets nostalgic for dos 3.3
[01:33]  * thumper remembers cpm
[01:33] <genii> thumper: Me too :)
[01:40] <hallyn> thumper: .
[01:40] <thumper> hallyn: oh hai
[01:40] <thumper> hallyn: I have a couple of lxc questions, but nothing urgent
[01:40] <thumper> so I'll put them into an email
[01:40] <thumper> OTP right now
[01:40] <hallyn> thumper: ok, thanks :)  ttyl
[01:40] <thumper> ciao
[01:41] <EDocToor> Yes, bill figured out that an end user OS that didn't require a degree in programming would make him rich.. thats what I like about UBUNTU... it is exactly what the end users are looking for...
[02:33] <EDocToor> like Sheldon Cooper 'big bang theory' says, "I ammmmm back"
[02:34] <EDocToor> hehe
[02:53] <adam_g_> jamespage, zul needed for CA http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/ca/folsom/keystone_2013.1.1-0ubuntu2.1~cloud0/
[03:41] <EDocToor> I am lonely
[03:58] <EDocToor> I am tall
[03:58] <EDocToor> anyone home... hehe
[06:31] <airtonix> is there any way to disable screen lock on byobu? (on aws ubuntu instances the default ubuntu user doesn't have a password)
[08:37] <thelamest> any Piwik users here, does the database grow linearly forever or does it more or less stabilize after 4 months when old archives are removed?
[08:38] <lifeless> thelamest: whats Piwik?
[08:39] <thelamest> lifeless: website statistics, somewhat fancier than webalizer/awstats
[08:39] <progre55> Hi guys. When I do a "grep -a <some_pattern>" on the entire device in /dev/sda, I find some matching text, but when I do a recursive grep on the mounted partition, it finds nothing. Is there a way of finding that data and getting rid of it? Are there any tools that clean the deleted sectors of a disk?
[08:40] <lifeless> there are
[08:40] <lifeless> progre55: apt-get install secure-delete
[08:42] <progre55> lifeless: but how do I find what I want to delete? I mean, I don't have a file-pointer to the data.. or does secure-delete take care of that, too?
[08:42] <lifeless> progre55: I understood your question :)
[08:43] <lifeless> progre55: read the description of secure-delete if you're not sure, but it's small.... install it, read the man page, enjoy.
[08:43] <lifeless> progre55: note that secure delete on SSD's is actually ridiculously hard.
[08:44] <lifeless> [and secure-delete is probably not going to be effective at it, even though it will fix it for the simple case of grep]
[08:47] <progre55> lifeless: thanks a lot, will give it a shot
[09:56] <liquid-silence> hi all
[09:56] <liquid-silence> I need a tool that can monitor my router for traffic via upnp
[09:56] <liquid-silence> as it does not support snmp
[10:00] <slyboots> Afternoon folk
[10:18] <slyboots> Im just thinking about something.. is there any notworthy difference between SATA-150/300?
[10:18] <slyboots> Looking at a SAS card for my little home NAS, found something on eBay but its ony SATA150..
[10:24] <mardraum> throughput?
[10:26] <slyboots> well Im thinking if your just using SATA physical disks
[10:26] <slyboots> In a "home" enviroment, would the different between SATA3 and SATA1.5 be that noticable
[10:26] <mardraum> depends what you do at home I guess
[10:28] <liquid-silence> no one knows?
[10:28] <liquid-silence> hmm anyone know of a tool that can do upnp monitoring of network interfaces?
[10:29] <liquid-silence> I need to monitor a router that does not support snmp
[10:29] <slyboots> I suppose what Im thinking if if Im moving a 1Tb file to the NAS to a SATA 1.5, what sorta speeds would I be likly to see
[10:29] <_ruben_> upnp isn't meant for monitoring afaik
[10:29] <slyboots> Right now Im getting about 80/90MB a sec on SATA3 disks
[10:30] <_ruben_> you wont get much more out of a single sata disk
[10:31] <_ruben_> also, buying a sas card is rather overkill when using sata disks
[10:32] <_ruben_> also, the bus usually isn't the limiting factor. in most scenarios at least
[10:32] <slyboots> _ruben_: I just need more space.  and I can get a low-grade SAS card for next to nothing
[10:59] <smb> zul, libvirt 1.0.6-0ubuntu1 installed on Saucy  fails to give connection from Precise virt-manager (downgrading to 1.0.5-0ubuntu1 makes it work again)
[11:00] <smb> zul, Might be because of "virKeepAliveTimerInternal:140 : No response from client 0x7f911c7d2300 after 5 keepalive messages in 31 seconds"
[11:33] <koolhead17> jamespage: around?
[11:33] <jamespage> koolhead17, yep
[11:33] <koolhead17> found pot of gold today http://techbackground.blogspot.in/
[11:33] <koolhead17> nice written blogpost with/around quantum
[11:33] <koolhead17> ubuntu
[11:34] <koolhead17> jamespage: see if it helps :)
[11:34] <jamespage> koolhead17, yeah - thats a nice feature
[11:34] <jamespage> the quantum-gateway charm supports that for grizzly
[11:35] <jamespage> although I prefer config-drive myself
[11:35] <koolhead17> jamespage: :)
[11:35] <koolhead17> so all charming stuff around quantum is under your belt?
[11:36]  * koolhead17 pokes zul
[11:53] <liquid-silence> fsck this upnp shit
[12:58] <ivoks> does anyone know mox? :)
[13:41] <pgoetz>
[15:25] <psivaa> hallyn: hello, ceph and lxc tests appear to hang with the installations from yesterday.
[15:25] <psivaa> hallyn: i could not find why except that the kernel version is new from yesterday
[15:25] <psivaa> hallyn: the VMs are in aldebaran if you'd like to look into it
[15:32] <hallyn> psivaa: i'm afraid not right now.  this is saucy?
[15:33] <psivaa> hallyn: yes, saucy images of yesterday and today
[15:34] <psivaa> hallyn: both amd64 and i386 and on lxc and ceph tests, when you have some time. ill leave the machines on
[15:34] <hallyn> psivaa: actually i'll take a look right now, asssuming my sshconfig is up to the task
[15:41] <rbasak> smoser: good morning! Are you free to chat about netinst2ss?
[15:46] <smb> hallyn, psivaa would those tests try using libvirt from a Precise side?
[15:47] <hallyn> smb: ?
[15:47] <psivaa> smb: the vm hosts is Precise
[15:47] <psivaa> s/hosts/host
[15:47] <smb> hallyn, Just that I had an issue this morning with connecting from precise to saucy because of latest libvirt on saucy
[15:48] <smb> Downgrading the saucy side to previous version solved it for me
[15:56] <hallyn> psivaa: the guests don't seem to have networking
[15:56] <hallyn> well, i couldn't ping google
[15:56] <hallyn> hm i guess they do
[15:56] <hallyn> zul: ^
[15:57]  * hallyn biab
[15:57] <hallyn> psivaa: please leave those vms up if you can
[15:57] <hallyn> (need to relocate)
[15:57] <psivaa> hallyn: sure they will be on
[16:09] <mop> why does it seems wget is downloading asynchronously?
[16:19] <cat5> any LVM'ers in the house?
[16:20]  * RoyK^ raises a hand
[16:20] <cat5> nice
[16:20] <cat5> beating my head agains the wall on this one..
[16:21] <cat5> vgcfgrestore has the 5 disks I need, and are in the machine..
[16:21] <cat5> but, a vgdisplay shows the wrong disk, and of course, won't activate.. I *must* be missing something or a step somewhere..
[16:22] <cat5> more info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765187/
[16:22] <cat5> if your not sure, let me know..
[16:22] <RoyK> cat5: no, not sure. I'd try #lvm
[16:23] <cat5> yeah.. I'm in there..
[16:23] <cat5> no one seems online
[16:30] <hallyn_> psivaa: seems to hang on unpacking initramfs
[16:31] <mop> anybody knows how I can wait for wget to finish before going to the next line in a bash script?
[16:34]  * hallyn_ confused - are you backgrounding it?
[16:35] <mop> nope I'm just wget -O
[16:37] <psivaa> hallyn_: ok, curious how you found it
[16:40] <hallyn_> psivaa: i just did strace -f -p `pidof debootstrap`
[16:40] <hallyn_> i don't know why it's hanging though
[16:41] <hallyn_> sorry got sidetracked with email :)  manual debootstrap works fine.  what on earth...
[16:43] <mop> ok adding some & fixed it
[16:43] <mop> I think ...
[16:57] <mop> the problem seems to be that the script exists as soon as the wget finishes
[16:57] <mop> I don't know why
[16:58] <mop> I'm doing https://dpaste.de/hYx1w/
[17:00] <mop> ok the & probably shouldn't be there in any case
[17:02] <mop> ok it's doing it async that's why
[17:03] <hallyn_> waait a minute
[17:04] <mop> basically I just want to install the deb after downloading it
[17:10] <qman__> mop, why do you have & on lines 2 and 3?
[17:11] <mop> yeah that was wrong
[17:11] <mop> I removed them
[17:12] <qman__> mop, use single quotes around the URL
[17:12] <qman__> it has ampersands in it which are being parsed
[17:13] <mop> hmm good catch
[17:13] <mop> let me try
[17:16] <mop> that was indeed the problem, cheers m8
[17:34] <hallyn_> psivaa: what's the simplest utah command for running a test on a new machine by hand again?
[17:35] <psivaa> hallyn_: sudo apt-add-repository -y ppa:utah/stable
[17:35] <psivaa>    sudo apt-get update
[17:35] <psivaa>    sudo apt-get install utah
[17:35] <hallyn_> did that :)
[17:35] <psivaa> sudo utah -r lp:ubuntu-test-cases/server/runlists/ceph.run
[17:35] <hallyn_> oh, that's it?
[17:35] <hallyn_> it'll grab its own iso?
[17:36] <psivaa> hallyn_: ahh sorry this is to run the tests on an installed vm
[17:36] <hallyn_> oh
[17:37] <hallyn_> that's helpful as well
[17:38] <hallyn_> in fact i'll start with that
[17:38] <hallyn_> thanks
[17:38] <psivaa> hallyn_: run_utah_tests.py -i /abs/path/to/saucy-server-amd64.iso -p lp:ubuntu-test-cases/server/preseeds/lxc.preseed lp:ubuntu-test-cases/server/runlists/lxc.run should work as well
[17:39] <psivaa> hallyn_: i mean the second one will install the vm and run the tests
[17:39] <hallyn_> psivaa: thanks
[17:40] <psivaa> hallyn_: im going EOD for now :)
[17:40] <hallyn_> psivaa: have a good weekend
[18:43] <bradley__> ok, so i connected to a wifi network and iwconfig tells me im on but im not connected to the internet and i cant even ping <IP_ADDRESS> it says network is unreachable
[18:44] <bradley__> how would i fix this
[19:10] <hallyn_> psivaa: fwiw a custom saucy server install on my precise server passes lxc tests.  maybe it *is* related to the libvirt bug smb was mentioning.  /me needs to scroll up
[19:27] <adam_g_> zul, http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/ca/grizzly/keystone_2013.1.1-0ubuntu2.1~cloud0/ + http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/ca/folsom/keystone_2012.2.4-0ubuntu3.1~cloud0/ pweeeease
[19:32] <Logos01> Greetings, folks... I'm using an lxc container to communicate w/ my company's private network (I.e.; isolated network-stack vpn client). Trouble is, lxc defaults to using the <IP_ADDRESS>/24 network for containers and that's where my prod servers live for my current project... (but not inside the lxc instance).
[19:32] <Logos01> Anyone have any info on changing the subnet lxc assigns?
[19:34] <sarnold> Logos01: check /etc/init/lxc-net.conf for details; /etc/default/lxc can override those values.
[19:35] <Logos01> File's non-existent.
[19:35] <Logos01> Or... not.
[19:35] <koolhead11> hallyn_, hey there
[19:35] <Logos01> O_o maybe I mis-CNP'd. Odd.
[19:36] <sarnold> Logos01: or I may have mis-typed. I'm lazy enoug hto not cnp :)
[19:37] <Logos01> No, I'd done so from elsewhere.
[19:38] <hallyn_> hey koolhead11
[19:38] <hallyn_> you've been demoted?
[19:39] <hallyn_> (you used to be 17 right?)
[19:40] <koolhead11> hallyn_, yeam man. its about time. getting younger
[19:40] <Logos01> So ... I found defaults in lxc-net.conf... changed them... and yeah, /etc/default/lxc overrode it
[19:40] <Logos01> But... changes made. Awesome, thanks much!
[19:41] <sarnold> Logos01: excellent :) have fun :)
[19:41] <Logos01> Indeed.
[19:42] <Logos01> We have about 5 different cisco vpns here... none allow split tunnelling.
[19:42] <vfw> "
[19:42] <Logos01> Guess what my work-around is.
[19:43] <koolhead11> hallyn_, how have you been man?
[19:44] <Logos01> Thanks, again!
[19:44] <hallyn_> koolhead11: all right.  having a blast.  hwo about yourself?
[19:45] <koolhead11> alive/kicking can`t complain :)
[19:47] <hallyn_> played any good volleyball lately?
[19:48] <pgoetz> I'm working with the 64-bit 13.10 server, but have seen this behavior with previous OS server versions.  Does anyone have any idea why when you set up a software RAID 1, some times it shows up as /dev/md0 and other times as /dev/md127, seemingly randomly; and/or why it will switch from one to the other between the install and the first reboot?
[19:49] <koolhead11> hallyn_, no man that was the last game i played :(
[19:49] <hallyn_> ditto
[19:51] <hallyn_> all right test is running, i need to step afk to clear my head and come back to check results later - bbl
[20:28] <ThothCastel> what is the difference between user@server:/# and user@server:~# ?
[20:29] <ThothCastel> if type       sudo su   then I get the       user@server:/#
[20:29] <ThothCastel> if I type sudo su -     then I get the      user@server:~#
[20:30] <ThothCastel> if I am on the   user@server:~#      and type     ls       then nothing comes up
[20:30] <ThothCastel> what is the diference between one and the other pls?
[20:31] <pgoetz> One is the root directory and the other the user's home directory.
[20:31] <pgoetz> Nothing comes up because the directory is empty.  Type `pwd` in each case and you will see the difference.
[20:32] <pgoetz> `su -` means load the root user's environment
[21:11] <ThothCastel> how do I kill all processes to use the shutdown command?
[21:11] <genii> That question doesn't make any sense.
[21:14] <genii> ThothCastel: The shutdown command will kill everything, yes. Like: sudo shutdown -h now     ...for halt, and: sudo shutdown -r now   ...for reboot. Is that what you were asking?
[21:17] <ThothCastel> genii: yes, thank you!
[21:17] <genii> ThothCastel: You're welcome
[21:18] <ThothCastel> genn
[21:18] <ThothCastel> genii: I am to install ldap for the first time on a virtual machine with ubuntu server 12.04
[21:19] <ThothCastel> I would like it not to use my network interface cards (wifi) so if I configure a master dns on the main virtual machine, will that be ok?
[21:20] <ThothCastel> I would like my vms to connect to each other but not to my host machine hence a dns install on the vm, right?
[21:20] <ThothCastel> am I doing it right?
[21:31] <genii> ThothCastel: Sorry, that's not my area of knowledge.
[21:41] <bekks> ThothCastel: Hmm, not that right, actually.
[21:41] <bekks> As long as your host doesnt use the DNS vm, everything is ok. Just use intnet adapter types for your vms.
[22:14] <subman> I'm getting the following when trying to use apt-get:  dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-generic-pae:
[22:14] <subman>  linux-generic-pae depends on linux-image-generic-pae (= <IP_ADDRESS>.54); however:
[22:14] <subman>   Version of linux-image-generic-pae on system is <IP_ADDRESS>.58.
[22:17] <subman> I've tried to fix with apt-get -f install and apt-get autoremove.  Still this issue.  Any ideas?
[22:18] <ThothCastel> is it possible to install the GUI only for selected applications? e.g. firefox  -   on a linux server without the GUI
[22:23] <ThothCastel> what is the default browser installed on the ubuntu server 12.04?
[22:28] <subman> There is no default browser
[22:28] <subman> You would need to install a command line text browser.  Like lynx
[22:29] <subman> I stand corrected, w3m is.
[22:29] <subman> w3m -v http://www.google.com for example.
[22:30] <subman> ThothCastel, here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1459742
[22:31] <subman> ThothCastel, I just tried w3m on my server and it worked fine, I just don't remember if I actually installed it or it came default!
[22:38] <EDocToor> Howdy, everyone
[22:46] <ThothCastel> subman: thank you
[22:48] <subman> ThothCastel, no problemo
[23:34] <ThothCastel> is an LDAP in linux like having the Active Directory in Windows?
[23:36] <Patrickdk> since AD does a lot more than ldap, no
[23:37] <ThothCastel> Patrickdk: so if a company is a solution that Windows provides (AD) but with Linux, then the LDAP packages be the way forward or there are other better solutions?
[23:38] <Patrickdk> linux cannot provide AD
[23:38] <Patrickdk> samba 4 is suppost to do AD though
[23:38] <Patrickdk> ldap is just one part of AD
[23:39] <Patrickdk> it's like saying, an smtp server is a email solution
[23:39] <Patrickdk> you missing all the other parts
[23:40] <ThothCastel> Patrickdk: I see, so let's say that windows disappeared for good and we have to use linux to provide that, then Samba 4 would be the way forward or LDAP?
[23:40] <sarnold> can you glue together an ldap and kerberos on linux to fake up an AD today?
[23:41] <ThothCastel> or does Samba use LDAP?


[00:00] <ubotu> New bug: #164770 in nautilus (main) ""About Me" tab order is unintuitive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164770
[00:05] <ubotu> New bug: #164771 in serpentine (main) "crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164771
[00:16] <ubotu> New bug: #164772 in bash (main) "bash_completion fails for psql when databases require a password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164772
[00:36] <ubotu> New bug: #164773 in gthumb (main) "[gutsy] memory leak with gthumb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164773
[00:42] <ubotu> New bug: #164775 in ubuntu "Menu bar sticky with extra visual effects causes program crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164775
[00:46] <Alfonsodg> bdmurray: ping
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #164776 in azureus (universe) "Azureus Web Tracker Failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164776
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #164777 in gnome-panel (main) "工作区不显示图标" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164777
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #164778 in ubuntu "工作区不显示图标" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164778
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #164779 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.10 crashes on boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164779
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #164780 in ubuntu "External hard drive folders cannot be displayed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164780
[02:01] <Hobbsee> bug #139619
[02:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139619 in soyuz "Allow orig.tar.gz from distribution repos" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139619
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #164781 in openmovieeditor (universe) "Please sync openmovieeditor 0.0.20071118-1  (universe) from Debian	unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164781
[03:42] <ubotu> New bug: #164785 in ubuntu "Typo in properties dialogue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164785
[03:42] <ubotu> New bug: #164786 in gnome-panel (main) "Panel crash on adding window-list to panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164786
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #164787 in thunderbird (main) "Font Size in Thunderbird is not "Sticky"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164787
[04:17] <ubotu> New bug: #164789 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in toupper_w()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164789
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #164791 in kde4base (universe) "libkdeprint.so.5: No such file or directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164791
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #164792 in ubuntu "Ubuntu language support too net-centric" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164792
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #164793 in ubuntu "Logitech MX610 mouse special functions doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164793
[05:11] <Hobbsee> !iso
[05:11] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:11] <Hobbsee> !rebuild
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rebuild - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #164794 in nautilus (main) "Gutsy nautilus cannot browse samba shares" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164794
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #164797 in nautilus (main) "There needs an easy way to rename partition labels on removable media." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164797
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #164798 in yelp (main) "Yelp crashes when clicking on link in page for "dive into python" causes yelp to close immediately with no warning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164798
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #164799 in cupsys (main) "Print is extremely slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164799
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #164800 in jython (universe) "Wrong version of libreadline-java in dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164800
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #164801 in xine-lib (main) "Change in dependency of libxine1 and broken new package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164801
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #164802 in ubuntu "evince on  fiesty ( & prev edgy and dapper)- just doesnt work at all !!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164802
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #164803 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Booting Xen dom0 hangs on ACPI when VMX is enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164803
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #164804 in ubuntu "Gnome Login Error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164804
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #164805 in hal (main) "driver for x1400 doesnt work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164805
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #164807 in ubuntu "black screen/X locking up after using ctrl+alt+f1 and then ctrl+alt+f7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164807
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #164808 in openoffice.org (main) "the program froze" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164808
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #164811 in pdftk (universe) "[Sync request] Please sync pdftk 1.40-2  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164811
[09:17] <ubotu> New bug: #164815 in qdvdauthor (multiverse) "qdvdauthor 1.0.0~rc2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164815
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #164816 in linux-meta (main) "frozen issues in gigabyte motherboard ga-8s648fxm2 bluetooth ohci" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164816
[09:27] <ubotu> New bug: #164817 in ubuntu "scratches in the video player after waking up the computer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164817
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #164818 in ubuntu "zynaddsubfx won't work again after it was stopped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164818
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #164819 in scrollkeeper (main) "Can't Remove Scrollkeeper without trashing Gnome" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164819
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #164822 in ubuntu "Live-CD boot menu: F1 opens strange table, not halep sometimes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164822
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #164826 in ubuntu "add uninstall linux option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164826
[10:26] <persia> Erm.  Why?
[10:26] <pochu> lol
[10:27] <persia> Actually, it's a useful report: basically to allow easy restoration of the MBR after an uninstall.  I'm not sure where it belongs though...
[10:27] <pochu> yeah, just read it
[10:28] <pochu> but why would you want to remove linux? the bug should say 'add option to uninstall windows' ;)
[10:28] <persia> Maybe something on the LiveCD that saves the MBR data to /boot somewhere on install, and allows restoration later?
[10:28] <persia> pochu: That's a different bug, and we already support it with the "Use entire disk" option :)
[10:29] <persia> Although, if we maybe did LVM by default, we could later recover the space from the no longer used Windows partition by reformatting and adding it to the volume group...
[10:30] <persia> Anyway, would this maybe be a ubiquity bug?
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #164827 in network-manager (main) "[gutsy] netework-manager should set wlan to "essid off channel 0" if it disabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164827
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #164830 in ubuntu "keyboard layout messed up between X and Gnome" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164830
[10:35] <Hobbsee> persia: debian-installer, possibly
[10:36] <persia> Hobbsee: I thought d-i was only for the alternate CD, and I'd not expect alternate CD users to need the option.  Is my mental map broken?
[10:37] <Hobbsee> persia: it's not.  oh, perhaps ubiquity doesnt just use the functionality of d-i now
[10:37] <persia> Hobbsee: I seem to remember some discussion of the two being different, but I've never installed Ubuntu, so I'm not sure.
[10:38] <persia> (or, I installed it once, but it was using debootstrap from a custom-constructed minimal install, so it doesn't really count, and I don't have that machine any more).
[10:45] <Hobbsee> !codecs
[10:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:53] <persia> Hobbsee: Haven't you memorised it yet?
[10:53] <Hobbsee> persia: no.  but i converted my .wav file into .ogg, so hopefully wont need it again
[10:54] <Hobbsee> totem doesn't figure codecs
[10:54] <persia> Hobbsee: Ah.  That works.
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #164833 in libmtp (main) "samsung yp-p2 failure to connect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164833
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #164836 in tracker (main) "Tracker opens chat logs in text editor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164836
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #164837 in dovecot (main) "Dovecot SASL for postfix" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164837
[11:58] <ubotu> New bug: #164839 in ubuntu "nautilus search bar not switching off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164839
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #164841 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164841
[12:09] <persia> bug #162966
[12:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 162966 in ubuntu "libserial needs packaging" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162966
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #164842 in ubuntu "Live-CD boot menu: german help text contains untranslated string" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164842
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #164844 in totem (main) "[gutsy] totem crashes X when changing audio visualisation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164844
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #164845 in gedit (main) "Can't receive "drag and drop" chinese text from Firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164845
[13:00] <persia> 中文
[13:01] <ubotu> New bug: #164847 in language-pack-zh (main) "language-pack-zh conflict with search input bar in synaptic package management utility" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164847
[13:02] <pochu> persia: we don't have a 'worksforme' bug status :P
[13:03] <persia> pochu: Err hm?  Actually, it broke for me too.
[13:04] <persia> It's something funny about gedit.  D&D to pidgin works (see above), just not gedit.
[13:04] <pochu> Ah, it was against gedit :)
[13:06] <ubotu> New bug: #164849 in ubuntu "Ubuntu dont find my any speaker or hearphone running kernel <IP_ADDRESS> 386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164849
[13:07] <persia> Do we support upstream kernels?
[13:09] <Hobbsee> no
[13:09] <persia> Right.
[13:09] <Hobbsee> if it's not in our repos, we don't support it.
[13:09] <Hobbsee> and in the case of binary blobs, we dont really support 'em anyway.
[13:09] <persia> That makes it easy then.  It's been a while since I was doing front edge triage, so I forget things.
[13:09]  * persia wants to abolish binary blobs
[13:24] <DarkMageZ> abolish as in just remove them from the world or cure the need?
[13:25] <persia> DarkMageZ: Remove them from the repositories.  I frequently find large binary blobs useful for other purposes (cryptography, audio production, etc.)
[13:26] <persia> I just don't believe that binary blobs represent something that can be supported as applications.  Further, I don't believe we should distribute anything we cannot support.
[13:28] <DarkMageZ> if sla's were to be drawn up between the motu's with the owners of the binary blobs. then they'd be supportable.
[13:28] <DarkMageZ> sla = service level agreement. basically make the evil binary corporations support their blobs.
[13:28] <persia> DarkMageZ: Yes, but I'd argue that if an SLA was prepared, they belong in restricted or partner, not in multiverse.
[13:29] <DarkMageZ> if they're in multiverse then they're in the correct place. don't the policies somewhere say that multiverse is not supported?
[13:30] <persia> Essentially, the difference is "community supported" vs, "directly supported".  Note that I don't believe "directly supported" is necessarily restricted to our primary sponsor: I wouldn't be surprised to see Dell blobs there if required.
[13:30] <persia> DarkMageZ: No, multiverse is "community supported", but not very well for the binary blobs.
[13:31] <DarkMageZ> universe is community supported. multiverse is use and pray
[13:31] <persia> DarkMageZ: Well, maybe.  I haven't seen that written, and pay a fair bit of attention to a couple multiverse packages (non-free for reasons other than closed-source).
[13:32] <DarkMageZ> eg mplayer with it's patent issues
[13:32] <DarkMageZ> its*
[13:33] <persia> Well, that's not one of mine, but yes, it's a good example of community supported multiverse.
[13:34] <persia> On the other hand, the old acroread package (now gone) is an example of something I'd rather see done as a wrapper for remote installation (see flashplayer-nonfree or nvidia-cg-toolkit).
[13:35] <persia> The reasoning being we can support mplayer or MAME or angband or uqm or the wrapper installers, but we cannot support binary blobs.
[13:35] <DarkMageZ> yeah, but without the binary blob known as adobe's flash player 9. the internet isn't usable.
[13:35] <ubotu> New bug: #164851 in gst-plugins-bad0.10 (universe) "dependency should be not be '=' to gstreamer-sdl and gl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164851
[13:36] <DarkMageZ> i will admit i haven't looked @ gnash for a few revisions. last being 8.0 i think
[13:37] <persia> DarkMageZ: Well, I don't use that, and get by, but that's a wrapper installer anyway: the software we distribute only checks the md5sums against Adobe to make sure the user is getting the right thing.  We can support that, and Adobe can support the installed product.  That's still different than some things we have.
[13:39] <DarkMageZ> the only reason flash uses the wrapper is cause it's illegal for ubuntu to redistribute flash player.
[13:39] <DarkMageZ> maybe multiverse could be split into patent issues & binary blobs?
[13:39] <persia> DarkMageZ: Maybe, but I'd argue that's better practice anyway, as it separates the things we do support from the things we cannot.
[13:40] <persia> DarkMageZ: There's also lots of "non-commercial", "non-military", and "send me an email" stuff there.
[13:42] <DarkMageZ> adding wrappers around the binary blob installation process normally only adds overhead and dev's know which parts they can and can't support anyways.
[13:43] <persia> DarkMageZ: Yes, but users don't, which is why I like wrappers.
[13:45] <DarkMageZ> users still wouldn't know, even with the wrappers. they just install a package and it should work. this is where the bug team comes in and forwards bug reports to adobe & their ilk.
[13:46] <persia> DarkMageZ: Maybe.  Let's disagree on this :)
[13:46] <DarkMageZ> for now, i need sleep before i die. laterz
[13:46] <persia> Good night.
[13:51] <ubotu> New bug: #164852 in nautilus (main) "Won't display contents of home folder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164852
[13:55] <ubotu> New bug: #164853 in ubuntu "[gutsy help] Nautilus extensions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164853
[14:10] <ubotu> New bug: #164854 in classpath (universe) "Please merge classpath 2:0.95-3 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164854
[14:15] <ubotu> New bug: #164855 in ubuntu "open office CALC crashes inserting fonctions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164855
[14:31] <ubotu> New bug: #164859 in evolution (main) "Evolution window sizing in Ubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164859
[14:34] <persia> That was fast :)
[14:41] <ubotu> New bug: #164858 in file (main) "file crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164858
[14:44] <ubotu> New bug: #164860 in realplay (main) "Realplayer does not install Helix dna plugin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164860
[14:55] <ubotu> New bug: #164861 in gajim (universe) "first start sound no working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164861
[14:55] <ubotu> New bug: #164862 in gstreamer (universe) "gstreamer does not play ipod mp4 videos" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164862
[15:11] <ubotu> New bug: #164863 in ubuntu "unable to install updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164863
[15:11] <ubotu> New bug: #164864 in msttcorefonts (multiverse) "msttcorefonts installation failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164864
[15:11] <ubotu> New bug: #164865 in ubiquity (main) "Partitioning sequence in livecd installer (ubiquity)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164865
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #164868 in ubuntu "The screen does not turn on when I turn on my pc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164868
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #164869 in atlas (universe) "Request: upgrade to LAPACK-3.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164869
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #164870 in ubuntu "x server crashs with bttv bt878 and nvidia loaded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164870
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #164871 in update-manager (main) "zlib1g-dev_<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-5ubuntu2_i386.deb and xaw3dg_1.5+E-15_i386.deb never found " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164871
[16:00] <ubotu> New bug: #164872 in hal (main) "I don't set my webkam to wiew" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164872
[16:10] <ubotu> New bug: #164873 in language-pack-en (main) "Dolphin shows "BROKEN TRANSLATION"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164873
[16:16] <ubotu> New bug: #164874 in sound-juicer (main) "no sound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164874
[16:26] <ubotu> New bug: #164875 in ubuntu "browser opened using keyboard shortcut opens home folder instead of homepage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164875
[16:30] <ubotu> New bug: #164877 in ubuntu "launcher properties does not have focus when opened" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164877
[16:30] <ubotu> New bug: #164878 in atlas (universe) "clapack.h is missing the declarations of all the routines!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164878
[16:35] <ubotu> New bug: #164879 in scribus (main) "scribus prints black pages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164879
[16:46] <ubotu> New bug: #164880 in easycrypt (universe) "Candidate revision easycrypt_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164880
[16:46] <ubotu> New bug: #164881 in totem (main) "totem crashed with signal 7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164881
[17:16] <ubotu> New bug: #164887 in ubuntu "Unable to save bookmarks in /home/laf/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164887
[18:07] <ubotu> New bug: #164893 in compiz (main) "Compiz misrembers full-screen status of closed applications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164893
[18:13] <ubotu> New bug: #164894 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "package sun-java6-bin 6-03-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164894
[18:17] <ubotu> New bug: #164895 in devhelp (main) "Does not load (missing dep?)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164895
[18:31] <ubotu> New bug: #164898 in ubuntu "alpine doesn't indent properly on reply" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164898
[18:31] <ubotu> New bug: #164899 in libao (main) "libao.conf in gutsy is wrong. (alsa09 is set as default)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164899
[18:40] <ubotu> New bug: #164900 in pidgin (main) "Pidgin can not handle drag+drop from smb-shares" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164900
[18:45] <ubotu> New bug: #164901 in ubuntu "Cannot use restricted drivers control in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164901
[18:50] <ubotu> New bug: #164897 in ubuntu "Flash video doesn't have true a full-screen mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164897
[19:01] <ubotu> New bug: #164903 in gedit (main) "The paste key does not paste" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164903
[19:25] <ubotu> New bug: #164904 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "stray mappings left behind by xfs make xen kernels crash." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164904
[19:35] <ubotu> New bug: #164906 in grub-installer (main) "grub install fails in case / is on raid0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164906
[20:02] <ubotu> New bug: #164907 in ubuntu "Aptana Studio is not included in repositories" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164907
[20:21] <ubotu> New bug: #164908 in dvdauthor (universe) "K9Copy Crashed and caused signal 11 (SIGSEGV)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164908
[20:21] <ubotu> New bug: #164909 in python-defaults (main) "python-dev package should depend on libc6-dev" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164909
[20:25] <ubotu> New bug: #164910 in tracker (main) "Tracker not searching content of rtf files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164910
[20:30] <ubotu> New bug: #164911 in gnome-utils (main) "gnome-screenshot incorrect capture in dualhead" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164911
[20:41] <ubotu> New bug: #164912 in kdeutils (main) "kdf handles UUID fstab entries incorrectly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164912
[20:41] <ubotu> New bug: #164913 in qtdmm (universe) "I have probably find a bug in QtDMM ver 0.8.8 and 0.8.10 used in Ubuntu and Debian (after new versions). I have only problems with the protocols for MASTECH M9803R, ELV etc. I do not see any data to the QtDMM  in the display or in diagram. But the cursor move on zero and go further when I start. My MAS 345 work ok in QtDMM ver 0.8.8 and 0.8.10." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164913
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #164915 in moodle (universe) "No update-notifier in Ubuntu Server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164915
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #164916 in fai (universe) "gutsy: old distribution name in /etc/fai/apt/sources.list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164916
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #164917 in compiz (main) "compiz and openoffice floating windows disagree" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164917
[21:38] <ubotu> New bug: #164918 in pulseaudio (main) "pasuspender missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164918
[21:38] <ubotu> New bug: #164919 in ubuntu "Selection in Add/remove programs is lost" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164919
[21:38] <ubotu> New bug: #164920 in ubuntu "gnome-font-viewer dont loads" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164920
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #164921 in totem (main) "Garbled display of some wmv videos under Xgl/Compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164921
[22:41] <ubotu> New bug: #164923 in debian-installer (main) "xubuntu installes but do not boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164923
[22:45] <ubotu> New bug: #164927 in ubuntu "Install stuck on Welcome screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164927
[22:46] <ubotu> New bug: #164924 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Gladex" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164924
[22:46] <ubotu> New bug: #164925 in linux-meta (main) "BUG() in av7110.c with 2.6.22-14-rt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164925
[22:46] <ubotu> New bug: #164926 in icedtea-java7 (universe) "icedtea-java7-7-b21-1.4+20071007" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164926
[22:50] <ubotu> New bug: #164928 in vkeybd (universe) "vkeybd could have a manpage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164928
[23:00] <ubotu> New bug: #164922 in kdebase (main) "Dolphin/Konqueror crash with folder full of pdfs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164922
[23:26] <ubotu> New bug: #164932 in vkeybd (universe) "Suggestion for a new keyboard map" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164932
[23:45] <ubotu> New bug: #164934 in kooldock (universe) "kooldock segging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164934


[00:00] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: are you using tb2?
[00:00] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: from time to time
[00:01] <gnomefreak> can you test if control+left click allows you to select more than one email. bug 230542
[00:01] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: cntr+left click doesnt work here
[00:01] <gnomefreak> yes it does
[00:01] <gnomefreak> i did it wrong
[00:02] <Jazzva> Heh :)... Ok, then I don't need to test i?
[00:02] <Jazzva> *it
[00:03] <gnomefreak> no not really
[00:03] <gnomefreak> i think he changed something
[00:04] <gnomefreak> hmmmm my applications preference is empty now
[00:04] <gnomefreak> it wasnt last week
[00:17] <gnomefreak> why the hell wont Status Incomplete work in email
[00:18] <Jazzva> maybe it's case-sensitive?
[00:18] <Jazzva> (dunno.. never used e-mail commands for launchpad)
[00:19] <fta> Jazzva, i had to write a C compiler.. a long time ago
[00:20] <Jazzva> fta: We studied the c preprocessor :). And assembler only.
[00:20] <Jazzva> Although, I think they gave us a source code of an example c compiler
[00:20] <fta> I had to do it twice. 1st in pure C, then using lex & yacc
[00:22] <fta> in asm, i had to write the OS for a robot, and a system for elevators in high towers
[00:24] <fta> in C, my end of term project in 1st year was to write a 3D game, without any toolkit, pure C and X API
[00:25] <Jazzva> Woah... :)
[00:27] <fta> well, afair, it was fun
[00:27] <fta> mozilla bug 433630
[00:27] <Jazzva> the only thing that I wrote so far was a multi-threaded kernel... without the bootloader. Just an executable, that would run, start few threads and stop... We had to implement the threads, scheduler, mailboxes for IPC, interrupt handlers... that stuff :)
[00:27] <fta> they are having a logo contest too
[00:28] <gnomefreak> this one is really getting on my nerves with his commetns
[00:28] <fta> Jazzva, excellent, i've made a kernel too but i don't remember the specs
[00:28] <Jazzva> And now I'm doing assembler, have to make a client-server application, server needs to pass tasks to workstation.  Maybe to remove PA and get back to ALSA...
[00:48] <fta> once i play a flash sound in ff3, mplayer / rhythmbox / ... are all stuck
[00:48] <Jazzva> yep... that's the problem here
[00:48] <Jazzva> The same is with skype. I can't use it, unless I quit all other applications that used sound
[01:30] <[reed]> I'm all checked-in
[01:30] <[reed]> for my flight
[01:30] <[reed]> :)
[01:31] <fta> [reed], you're at the airport ?
[01:31] <[reed]> no
[01:31] <fta> ?
[01:32] <[reed]> check-in online
[01:32] <fta> ok
[01:32] <[reed]> 24 hours ahead of flight
[01:32] <[reed]> :)
[01:32] <fta> when do you arrive (localtime) ?
[01:42] <fta> [reed], ^^ I arrive at 2:45pm
[01:43] <[reed]> looking
[01:43] <[reed]> 2:35pm
[01:43] <[reed]> we can share a taxi
[01:43] <fta> sure
[01:43] <fta> nice :)
[01:44] <[reed]> what flight are you arriving on?
[01:45] <fta> AF1982
[01:45] <[reed]> KL 1355 for me
[02:03]  * fta heading for bed. cu
[02:03] <fta> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/150
[04:40] <[reed]> asac: ping?
[04:40] <[reed]> anybody around?
[09:31] <asac> [reed]: there?
[09:31] <[reed]> asac: yeah
[09:31] <asac> howdy? whats up
[09:31] <[reed]> well, I moved past the issue I pinged about, but I did want to know how the Prague weather was
[09:32] <[reed]> enjoying it so far?
[09:32] <[reed]> :)
[09:36] <asac> [reed]: weather was hot yesterday ... today rainy
[09:36] <asac> [reed]: but not cold
[09:36] <[reed]> looks like 59F-69F
[09:36] <[reed]> for next week
[09:36] <asac> so i think moderate clothes + summer clothes are ok
[09:36] <[reed]> yeah
[09:36] <[reed]> it's 63F here currently, and it's the middle of the night
[09:37] <[reed]> ;)
[09:37] <asac> i cant mindmap fahrenheit ;)
[09:37] <[reed]> hehe
[09:38] <[reed]> ubottu: 63F
[09:38] <[reed]> ubottu: 63F to Celsius
[09:38] <[reed]> lame
[09:38] <[reed]> 17C
[09:38] <[reed]> or so
[09:38] <asac> yeah ... 17C is ok ... but i am sure when sun gets out its 25 or something
[09:39] <[reed]> hasn't been that bad here lately
[09:39] <[reed]> been pretty nice
[09:41] <asac> [reed]: you know how to configure ffox to start in fullscreen mode?
[09:41] <asac> in localstore.rdf or something?
[09:41] <Jazzva> asac: bug 224985 I am expiriencing this since around 3am last night. And the solution seems to be deletion of some sqlite file. I'll check if it's the urlclassifier
[09:41] <[reed]> nope, not off the top of my head
[09:42] <Jazzva> nope, it's not that one...
[09:47] <asac> Jazzva: so is that the bug or not?
[09:47] <Jazzva> asac: Removing places.sqlite fixed it
[09:48] <asac> Jazzva: did you save the broken sqlite file?
[09:48] <Jazzva> I'm using weave, and I have been getting some errors from it, so maybe that messed up something. I'll post on a bug
[09:48] <Jazzva> asac: Nope... I just removed it... Hmm
[09:49] <Jazzva> damn
[09:51] <Jazzva> Is places.sqlite for bookmarks, visited sites?
[09:51] <Jazzva> ok, found it on google
[09:52] <asac> Jazzva: yes. not a good idea to delete that file
[09:52] <Jazzva> But, now all my bookmarks are still here. Maybe because places.sqlite-journal was still there
[09:54] <Jazzva> Hmm. It wasn't removed when I closed FF, and it says that it shouldn't be there when FF is not running.
[10:01] <asac> Jazzva: most likely you have your ff2 bookmarks now
[10:01] <Jazzva> asac: Nope, it's the current one. Although, it's like a snapshot from 2-3 days ago, when I still had some bookmarks, which I deleted
[10:02] <Jazzva> and I don't think Weave synchronized them, because it's still not connected to the server.
[10:02] <Jazzva> And I haven't started FF2 in the last week for sure, maybe even longer
[10:03] <Nafallo> firefox doesn't have async write of downloads? I just downloaded the new lugradio to my slow usb media player and firefox greyed after the download until the file was written to the device.
[10:10] <asac> i will be back in 15 min .. sorry ... a bit busy right now
[10:11] <Jazzva> I'll go off in a few minutes. Have to go out for a while...
[10:40] <gnomefreak> you know the more i think of ading firegpg to our repos the morei think its a bad idea
[10:50] <gnomefreak> fta_: if your up and here what is the find command again the one for the play list, I rembmer find .
[10:50] <gnomefreak> and the end but everythin inbetween i forgot
[10:51] <gnomefreak> history only gives me from last night before rebooting (plus what i did today
[10:57] <gnomefreak> well i used a command but it didnt load them in order :(
[10:59] <gnomefreak> thats a bug/feature in rythembox it looks like
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ok back to work around here/
[12:06] <asac> anyone ever managed to create a ad-hoc wireless network?
[12:20] <asac> Nafallo: i think that file downloads are done in a separate thread
[12:21] <Nafallo> asac: I just now the whole firefox greyed out :-)
[12:21] <Nafallo> know even
[12:21] <asac> Nafallo: you have latest xulrunner?
[12:21] <Nafallo> asac: hardy with updates, proposed, security
[12:25] <asac> dpkg -l xulrunner-1.9
[12:25] <Nafallo> 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3
[12:26] <asac> Nafallo: thats old .... it should be ubuntu4~8.04...
[12:26] <Nafallo> hmm
[12:26] <asac> that is what is in -proposed
[12:26] <asac> and -updates
[12:26] <asac> even
[12:27] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9
[12:27] <asac> in updates: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~8.04.0mt1
[12:27] <Nafallo> ehrm
[12:28] <Nafallo> nafallo@unicorn:~$ sudo apt-get -qq update && apt-cache madison xulrunner-1.9
[12:28] <Nafallo> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 | http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
[12:28] <Nafallo> mirror issue maybe :-/
[12:28] <Nafallo> I'll try changing to main
[12:29] <Nafallo> nafallo@unicorn:~$ sudo apt-get -qq update && apt-cache madison xulrunner-1.9
[12:29] <Nafallo> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~8.04.0mt1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Packages
[12:29] <Nafallo> xulrunner-1.9 | 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
[12:29] <Nafallo> there we go
[12:29] <asac> Nafallo: you dont-t have -proposed maybe
[12:29] <asac> yeah
[12:29] <Nafallo> thanks asac, I'll notify the sysadmins :-)
[12:29] <asac> thanks
[12:30] <Nafallo> asac: gb.archive is screwed :-)
[12:31] <asac> Nafallo: maybe it doesnt have the -updates -propoesd repos?
[12:32] <Nafallo> asac: I would be surprised if an official mirror didn't have -updates.
[12:32] <Nafallo> asac: it's managed by Canonical's IS-team.
[12:32] <Nafallo> anyway. I need to head for lunch :-)
[12:34] <asac> k
[13:35] <asac> hmm ... we have still folks pasting the old bug reply templates ... on what page are those?
[13:41] <asac> gnomefreak: in bug Bug 31746 i said that its a dupe of a wontfix bug .. why did you file one anyway?
[13:41] <asac> it was not mt-postupstream :)
[13:42] <asac> just esarch for wontfix bugs upstream
[14:44] <Nafallo> asac: gb.archive fixed ;-)
[14:44] <Nafallo> 41 updates :-P
[14:54] <asac> Nafallo: thx ... did you poke anyone?
[15:06] <asac> bug 147119
[15:07] <Nafallo> asac: yea :-)
[16:49] <[reed]> fta: I'm wearing a Firefox shirt :)
[16:50] <[reed]> so, should be easy to find
[16:56] <gnomefreak> aswi filed that bug long before you said that
[16:57] <gnomefreak> asac: i filed it long before you posted that
[16:58] <gnomefreak> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/31746/comments/16
[16:59] <gnomefreak> ah same day but 4 posts before yours
[17:00] <gnomefreak> fixing status of bug now
[17:07] <gnomefreak> would have been nice to see when i marked upstream bug wontfix our bug would have changed too
[17:20] <gnomefreak> [reed]: what was wrong with my wontfox?
[17:20] <gnomefreak> wontfix?
[17:21] <[reed]> nothing... always preferred to dupe to the wontfix'd bug yourself
[17:21] <[reed]> but if you can't find it, that was fine
[17:21] <[reed]> what's the problem?
[17:27] <gnomefreak> nothing
[17:29] <gnomefreak> [reed]: nothing i just wasnt sure what happened because i marked it as wontfix than after you did i say a couple of more options show up
[17:30] <[reed]> mm
[17:33] <armin76> wontfox!
[17:34] <gnomefreak> wait till we get the revolt on that bug :(
[17:36] <[reed]> I use multiple profiles all the time
[17:36] <[reed]> -no-remote :)
[17:37] <gnomefreak> 1 profile is hard enough to keep clean
[18:05] <fta> @time prague
[18:05] <fta> cool, no jet lag at all
[20:39] <gnomefreak> bug 212648
[20:39] <gnomefreak> fuck
[20:45] <blizzard> yooooouuuu
[20:47] <fta> hm.. mochitest/ssltunnel ignores system-nss and then fails for us
[21:08] <[reed]> asac / fta: ping
[21:08] <fta> [reed], yep
[21:09] <[reed]> fta: see msg
[21:11] <gnomefre1k> fta: im assuming you didnt get what i typed?
[21:14] <fta> ?
[21:14] <gnomefre1k> when did rc1 offifialy release
[21:15] <fta> it's under QA
[21:15] <fta> end of this month iirc
[21:17] <gnomefre1k> i was just reading a bug it was out already
[21:18] <gnomefre1k> well user was asking for it in bug report. i invalided the report and told him we will get it out as soon as we can adn told him to use ML or this channel for those requests
[21:21] <gnomefreak> fta: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/+bug/231140
[21:21] <gnomefreak> is the bug that i made invalid since we are normally 3 weeks ahead of everyone else :)
[21:21] <gnomefreak> be back in a bit
[22:00] <gnomefreak> anyone speak spanish atm?
[22:01] <rzr> i am talking w/ a friend from argentina now , is it long to translate ?
[22:01] <gnomefreak> rzr: couple of lines maybe 3 in a bug
[22:01] <gnomefreak> bug 231154
[22:01] <rzr> fire
[22:02] <gnomefreak> assuming thats spain spanish i know there are different dialecs
[22:03] <rzr> there are 4 at least
[22:03] <rzr> Low mails of an account and when it finishes lowering them and it would have to happen to another account, is blocked, the screen in gray is put and it is stayed as dead.
[22:05] <gnomefreak> rzr: thanks
[22:06] <saivann> asac : ping
[22:07] <rzr> gnomefreak: updated
[22:07] <rzr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/231154
[22:07] <gnomefreak> rzr: thanks
[22:07] <gnomefreak> i was just doing that as well :)
[22:07] <rzr> you welcome
[22:57] <gnomefreak> !info flashplugin-nonfree backports
[22:57] <gnomefreak> !info flashplugin-nonfree gutsy backports
[22:57] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[22:58] <gnomefreak> thats not good
[23:05] <jimmy> asac: ping
[23:07] <gnomefreak> jimmy: he may not be around hes at fosscamp IIRC this week
[23:09] <jimmy> gnomefreak: alright, thanks
[23:20] <gnomefreak> !feisty
[23:20] <gnomefreak> damn
[23:21]  * gnomefreak removed a perfectly good chroot because i had a stupid moment i thought fiesty but its feisty :(
[23:33] <gnomefreak> whos on hardy atm
[23:33] <gnomefreak> i need to know if libtotem-plparser10 is failing to install


[01:06] <JRWR> Trying to setup GlusterFS {3.5.2}, Both boxes are connected over a tinc connect and confirmed working ok, glusterfs is having a hard time adding peers, it just hard locks and never completes, it just locks up with the log line of 0-glusterfs: transport.address-family not specified. Could not guess default value from (remote-host:(null) -- my command is gluster peer probe 10.10.xx.xx
[03:52] <hallyn> hm, rabbitmq-server wont' install for me in xenial, either a host or ina container. systemd job fails.
[03:56] <hallyn> odd, no new upload since january
[03:59] <hallyn> hm, no, in a container it starts fine with /etc/hosts fixed up.
[08:29] <BusyElf> Ubuntu 14.10 Server : I have a problem with a programme shutting down at 02:30 -ish every morning. Nothing in the log files to sugges it was a system side order to shut down.. does anyone have any ideas?
[08:31] <BusyElf> Hi :-)
[08:33] <BusyElf> Ubuntu 14.10 Server : I have a problem with a programme shutting down at 02:30 -ish every morning. Nothing in the log files to sugges it was a system side order to shut down.. does anyone have any ideas?
[08:33] <TJ-> !eol | BusyElf 14.10 is no longer supported
[08:34]  * BusyElf facepalms
[08:35] <TJ-> BusyElf: that's not going to cause your issue, but it sounds like an application-specific thing, unless you've a system cron job causing it
[08:36] <BusyElf> we did have a cronjob in place to close it and restart it after backup. Now there's no backup we deleted the cronjob  but it still shuts down
[08:36] <BusyElf> The server has since been restarted as well
[08:39] <BusyElf> sorry My mistake, it's Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS version
[09:01] <halvors> Anyone knows why mod_http2.so is missing from the apache2 package in Ubuntu Server 16.04?
[09:01] <halvors> I have the latest build.
[09:01] <halvors> The http2.load and http2.conf is there. Just not the shared object.
[09:05] <lukasa> halvors: The Ubuntu developers elected not to add mod_http2 to the LTS release packages
[09:13] <halvors> Well, they did anyway.
[09:15] <halvors> lukasa: It is present in the latest package.
[09:15] <halvors> Just not the so file.
[09:15] <halvors> So it seems to be there for the user.
[09:18] <TJ-> halvors: http2 for both apache2 and nginx, as I recall, are deliberately not included due to the 'experimental' nature
[09:20] <TJ-> halvors: as the package changelog says: "- Don't build experimental http2 module for LTS:"
[09:21] <TJ-> halvors: oh, seems like it has been enabled in nginx, as of start of April. The original discussion was that neither package would have http2
[09:56] <TJ-> who handles building the cloud-images for the cloud-images and partner-images archives?
[10:16] <halvors> TJ-: There is apache2 config present for this: /etc/apache2/mods-available/http2.load
[10:16] <halvors> Just that the .so file is missing.
[10:16] <halvors> It should be if it's going to be disabled...
[10:17] <TJ-> halvors: I agree; have you reported the bug?
[11:42] <frickler> jamespage: yet another issue involving systemd task accounting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1567381 , pretty significant for our deployment
[11:44] <jamespage> cpaelzer, rharper: ^^ thats probably quite an important bug to resolve
[11:44] <jamespage> thanks frickler - your pre-release feedback has been invaluable!
[11:46] <frickler> getting some feedback on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/neutron/+bug/1564812 would also be nice, not sure whether you create the sudo config or that is taken from upstream
[11:47] <cpaelzer> jamespage: yeah that looks bad from just the description
[11:48] <cpaelzer> jamespage: since it is about libvirt also highlighting hallyn and smb to bug 1567381
[12:03] <frickler> jamespage: well, thanks for being so supportive, much better than having to go through this bug-fixing for another 6 months after the release ;)
[12:14] <ddellav> jamespage manila is ready for review and push: lp:~ddellav/ubuntu/+source/manila i rebased against ubuntu-server-dev
[12:19] <smb> jamespage, hm, practically the qemu processes are part of the virtualisation
[12:20] <smb> so from my thinking they should be accounted against it. Maybe the question is to adapt the task limit
[12:22] <frickler> smb: I would rather vote that this is similar to sshd, there the processes of users logged in via ssh also should not be counted towards the ssh.service
[12:25] <smb> frickler, but there VMs started by libvirt directly relate to the service. processes started by users logged in is one level deeper
[12:27] <frickler> smb: hmm, maybe, but then the question is how to set a useful limit. I get 490 of of 512 tasks being used by starting 4 cirros instances, the 5th already fails
[12:29] <smb> frickler, Yeah, probably a question what this really is accounting for. I suspect that is might rather be threads than tasks
[12:31] <frickler> smb: "tasks" for systemd means threads, yes, the process count is 7 ( 4 x qemu, 2 x dnsmasq, 1 x libvirtd)
[12:44] <smb> and the number for qemu then could vary a lot depending on the config of the VM (possibly one per disk/nic though I have not verified that). Not sure how to fit that best into the accounting. Either the limit must be rather high or ... hm I assume this is all depending on cgroups, so libvirt would need to place each qemu/VM into an independent one. Which might be a rather big change.
[13:16] <patdk-wk> sarnold, dunno what happened, but whatever was messed up with grub efi boot + luks, got fixed in beta
[13:59] <rsevero> Hi. One of my Ubuntu 15.10 servers started this morning to present errors like: "Setting up thermald (1.4.3-5ubuntu1) ...
[13:59] <rsevero> Installing new version of config file /etc/thermald/thermal-conf.xml ...
[13:59] <rsevero> Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: Timeout was reached (g-io-error-quark, 24)
[13:59] <rsevero> Failed to execute operation: Connection timed out
[13:59] <rsevero> Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1': timed out (g-dbus-error-quark, 20)
[13:59] <rsevero> " during an "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[14:00] <rsevero> It presented errors like the above during a boot I did just before the upgrade. Any idea what might be wrong? And how to fix?
[14:24] <coreycb> ddellav, I pushed your barbican changes, and we can pick those up when we do the final release of barbican
[14:29] <ddellav> coreycb: ok thanks
[14:36] <jamespage> ddellav, doing manila now...
[14:37] <jamespage> coreycb, do you want me to sweep up the 2.0.0 as well for manila whilst I'm doing ddellav's manila-share landing?
[14:40] <coreycb> jamespage, sure!
[14:41] <jamespage> coreycb, did all of the releases already come out?
[14:41] <jamespage> 07:47 this morning?
[14:42] <coreycb> jamespage, I believe so, that's what openstack-announce says
[14:44] <jamespage> coreycb, okies...
[14:50] <coreycb> jamespage, ugh, the new keystoneauth1 adds a new dep for python-betamax
[14:51] <jamespage> can we pick a compromise version?
[14:51] <coreycb> jamespage, we can stay where we are or I can patch out the tests, it's just for tests
[14:51] <jamespage> coreycb, i'd prob go with patching out the tests..
[14:51] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[14:51] <jamespage> coreycb, does it fix important things?
[14:52] <coreycb> jamespage, there are some bug fixes, 2.4.0 gets us to the  upper constraint
[14:53] <coreycb> I'll go with patching the test out for now, that's what upstream's been using
[14:54] <jamespage> coreycb, okies manila uploaded
[14:54] <coreycb> jamespage, nice
[14:55] <ruben23>  hi guys i have installed apache2 on ubuntu server, when i run my site i get this -----> 404 NOt found any idea guys how to troubleshoot this..?
[14:58] <jvwjgames> Apache error logs
[14:58] <jvwjgames> Logs are your best friend
[15:01] <ruben23> http://pastebin.com/M5DzF2J3  <--------- nothing significant to error appearing
[15:14] <teward> ruben23: 404 would suggest that what you're trying to access doesn't exist
[15:14] <teward> ruben23: I'd set a more verbose error logging level and try again
[15:14] <teward> or, nuke your browser cache first
[15:14] <teward> then try again
[15:16] <_max_> hi guys, quick question: does anybody here have experience with fai-project under ubuntu?
[15:25] <BlessJah> I'm trying to setup PXE boot using iso as local repository. Debian-installer tries to contact my repo (/cdrom/dists exposed via http) and succeds to find dists/trusty, bet then tries trusty-updates which is not available on cd and hangs when it receives 404. (I've figured out -server channel is better place to ask such question)
[15:36] <RoyK> BlessJah: mirror the whole repo, not just what's on the ccd
[15:36] <RoyK> BlessJah: mirror the whole repo, not just what's on the cd
[15:37] <BlessJah> RoyK: how large whole repo could be, and why is cdrom not enough?
[15:38] <BlessJah> I'm actually trying to bootstrap local pxe/repo mirror server for environment behind firewall
[15:38] <RoyK> got a proxy?
[15:39] <BlessJah> not at the moment of bootstrapping
[15:40] <RoyK> I don't know how large those repos are - I guess 10-20 gigs
[15:40] <RoyK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror
[15:40] <RoyK> see that
[15:40] <BlessJah> way too big
[15:41] <RoyK> why?
[15:41] <Karunamon> so here's a question that probably doesn't come up often - anyone familiar with setting up serial terminals?
[15:41] <RoyK> BlessJah: that's not really a lot
[15:41]  * RoyK setup a neat little server with 80TiB disk space yesterday
[15:41] <RoyK> Karunamon: I am
[15:42] <Karunamon> RoyK: I've got a wy50 hooked up to my machine and giving me a login session, but it's still really easy to screw it up so that a reset is required to become usable again
[15:42] <BlessJah> RoyK: because it has to fit usb drive, 8GiB is max, >1GiB is good
[15:43] <Karunamon> i'm almost certain that it's a charset thing.. I can use sh, but not bash, opening anything like mutt or vim completely trashes it
[15:43] <RoyK> BlessJah: I mean on the repo, not on the final install
[15:44] <Karunamon> that or some disagreement between my tty settings and the settings on the terminal
[15:44] <RoyK> Karunamon: ah - not sure, sorry. try setting TERM=vt100
[15:44] <RoyK> Karunamon: as in "export TERM=vt100
[15:44] <RoyK> "
[15:45] <jamespage> coreycb, I have the theme refresh from design - lemme take horizon
[15:45] <coreycb> jamespage, awesome
[15:45] <Karunamon> nope, that doesn't appear to work
[15:45] <BlessJah> I know that it's the repo that is 20GiB, but all files required for bootstrap has to fit pendrive so they'd fir pendrive and be manageable to be sent over crappy internet
[15:45] <RoyK> BlessJah: then I don't know
[15:46] <_max_>  i try to build a ubunut nfsroot from/with "trusty archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu"  and i get a "not configured" error for udev, plymouth and initramfs-tools depending on udev, but if i manually try to install udev on 14.04 i have no problems
[15:47] <_max_> any ideas why?
[15:51] <BlessJah> I know my limits may sound strange, but they
[15:52] <BlessJah> 're pretty reasonable: to be able to perform PXE boot using just iso image
[16:36] <dr4c4n_> hi, I'm having trouble setting a static ip address on a box to create a management network that's running kvm
[16:37] <dr4c4n_> do I need to create a bridge for that?
[16:39] <sdeziel> dr4c4n_: what trouble are you having when setting the static IP?
[16:40] <dr4c4n_> sdeziel: what I'm trying to do for now, is set a static ip on the kvm host machine, and a static ip on the one machine I want to use to manage it, but I'm getting destination host unreachable, both are connected to a switch, and ip link show, shows that I'm using the right interfaces on each
[16:41] <dr4c4n_> and ifconfig shows that both machines have their ip addresses assigned
[16:42] <sdeziel> dr4c4n_: try to start a ping stream from you host and use tcpdump on the destination to confirm your traffic reaches it
[16:47] <coreycb> jamespage, keystonemiddleware 4.4.0-3 is in the xenial queue.  I've asked inifinity if he can accept that before any core packages since it is needed at build time to generate the right configs.
[16:49] <coreycb> jamespage, he just accepted middleware
[16:49] <jamespage> coreycb, lol following along
[17:06] <jvwjgames> I have an issue with curl
[17:07] <jvwjgames> I am trying to use my server to try to send push notifications and it keeps on saying error
[17:10] <ratrace> like what
[17:10] <crazybluek> can't remember  why Iv
[17:10] <jvwjgames> Are you talking to me
[17:11] <ratrace> jvwjgames: yup. error like what?
[17:11] <crazybluek> I've set up mine ubuntu server with localhost <IP_ADDRESS> and pc_box_name <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:12] <jvwjgames> http://picpaste.com/pics/IMAG0456-58PGayJB.1460049132.jpg
[17:13] <sarnold> crazybluek: that's normal; 127.x.x.x. goes via loopback and never leaves the machine
[17:14] <ratrace> jvwjgames: -d flag sets the post body string. you're using it wrong, it should be an "urlencoded" string
[17:14] <sarnold> jvwjgames: easy, call google and ask them to give you an API key for their gcm-http service
[17:15] <crazybluek> sarnold ok
[17:15] <sarnold> crazybluek: some applications get cranky if they forward-resolve an address then reverse-resolve the address and get something different
[17:15] <sarnold> crazybluek: this configuration lets the computer be used for one set of addresses, localhost for another set, and the two won't stomp on each other
[17:16] <crazybluek> ok
[17:16] <crazybluek> trying to figure out if there are some misconfiguration on  pc/ubuntu
[17:17] <ratrace> jvwjgames: -d "to=/topics/foo-bar" -d "data=message"        or as single string -d "to=/topics/foo-bar&data=message"  however, as I said, it must be urlencoded.
[17:17] <jvwjgames> Ok
[17:19] <jvwjgames> Maybe this will help
[17:20] <jvwjgames> Http://goo.gl/w7Yrg7
[17:21] <ratrace> jvwjgames: help what?
[17:22] <jvwjgames> Cause I am trying to URL encode that code
[17:22] <jvwjgames> Where it says http post request
[17:23] <ratrace> jvwjgames: for starters, curl is not really a good tool for structured data. But if you must, I suppose using application/json content type is easier because you don't have to urlencode.
[17:24] <jvwjgames> Then how do I use it then
[17:24] <ratrace> use a programming language that understands structured data like perl or python.
[17:24] <jvwjgames> Ok
[17:25] <jvwjgames> Thanks
[17:25] <jvwjgames> So just slap the code into a .py file and execute it
[17:26] <jvwjgames> Right
[17:26] <ratrace> and if you wish to stick to curl, you can try the "HTTP POST Request" example from that second link, using --header "Content-Type: application/json" and -X POST and  -d '{"to": "/topics/foo-bar", "data" ....   '
[17:26] <ratrace> put that whole json structure into -d string
[17:26] <ratrace> you can also put it in a file and use -d @filename for curl
[17:28] <ratrace> jvwjgames: there's a python client for GCM so you don't have to reinvent the wheel: https://github.com/geeknam/python-gcm
[17:28] <ratrace> surely a programming language of your choice might have a lib/binding for that API
[17:50] <jvwjgames> ratrace thanks for your help
[17:51] <jvwjgames> Returned http 200 Ok
[17:51] <jvwjgames> And message arrives at my phone
[17:53] <ratrace> jvwjgames: yw :)
[17:56] <jvwjgames> I ended up adding the json code in a .py and just having curl
[17:56] <jvwjgames> https://gcm-http.googleapis.com/gcm/send @GCM-sender.py
[17:56] <jvwjgames> And that worked
[17:57] <jvwjgames> *-d @GCM-sender.py*
[18:00] <jvwjgames> And now to automate that with cron jobs witch I can do
[18:00] <jvwjgames> Again thanks for your help
[18:00] <ratrace> jvwjgames: you shouldn't. even though extensions don't define mimetype, you shouldn't use .py if it's not python code, and it isn't, it's JSON.
[18:01] <wsirccc> Wer hat Lust auf nen Smalltalk über Paketbau mit mir.
[18:01] <jvwjgames> So even though it works it's not good practice
[18:01] <ratrace> jvwjgames: exactly.
[18:02] <jvwjgames> So use .sh
[18:02] <wsirccc> pardon: how likes smalltalk about packaging in broader sense with me?
[18:02] <sarnold> wsirccc: "who" :)
[18:04] <wsirccc> you?
[18:04] <wsirccc> (;
[18:05] <sarnold> wsirccc: it depends on the specific question; I only do simple things..
[18:06] <wsirccc> sarnold: Are you interested?
[18:06] <sarnold> sure
[18:09] <wsirccc> Well in my case we speak of packaging a program, which must be developed first, by and by.
[18:09] <wsirccc> Got me?
[18:10] <wsirccc> it is about runnable qemu image on finger snip.
[18:11] <sarnold> "finger snip"?
[18:12] <wsirccc> at the finger tips
[18:13] <sarnold> aha :) so you want to package something like a qcow2 image and a command line that launches the VM?
[18:13] <wsirccc> yes
[18:13] <wsirccc> thats part of it.
[18:14] <wsirccc> And now I ask the packager for experience in user program specifics.
[18:14] <wsirccc> That describes the situation.
[18:15] <wsirccc> launch? I want it to be "fully scriptable".
[18:16] <wsirccc> controllable over ssh out of box as a user interface
[18:16] <wsirccc> So what does it take?
[18:16] <wsirccc> Boss?
[18:16] <wsirccc> (;
[18:17] <wsirccc> sarnold
[18:17] <wsirccc> sarnold:?
[18:19] <wsirccc> Is it possible and how much time one should invest for it?
[18:20] <sarnold> wsirccc: it depends how far you want to go with it. you could do something similar via lxd quite quickly, but containers aren't VMs. if you -want- it to be qemu, then you've got a lot more work.
[18:22] <wsirccc> "got a lot more work" about which steps works you speaking
[18:22] <wsirccc> ?
[18:22] <nacc> and by "do something via lxd", sarnold means lxd already does this
[18:23] <sarnold> wsirccc: lxd is easy, you pull down an image, configure it as you need, then publish the modified image
[18:24] <zzxc> Hey I have an apache issue. I have multiple site-enabled. Currently I have a conf for each of foo.com/a foo.com/b foo.com/c. I'm wanting to handle multiple another domain url for bar.com/a. So I went with virtual_host *:443 and servername foo.bar with a location /a in one conf, /b in another /c in a third,
[18:25] <zzxc> then another file that has the same virtual host with the servername of bar.com. bar works withouth any issue, but only the first of the foo.bar will load. All foo.com confs are disregarded.
[18:26] <zzxc> unload adv_windowlist.pl
[18:26] <zzxc> err sorry about that.
[18:30] <wsirccc> sarnold
[18:30] <wsirccc> sarnold
[18:30] <wsirccc> sarnold: thanks, you send me to another project. Understand from it that it is another tool like uvtools that download images from the test server, patch them start them and controll them by ssh.
[18:31] <wsirccc> Is it that perfect?
[18:31] <sarnold> wsirccc: I'm sorry to say that I never got the hang of uvtools
[18:32] <sarnold> wsirccc: uvtools uses simplestreams to distribute information about images and that's very nearly a black-box -- it's impossible to learn more about it, it's not very well documented, and the tools that exist have no options for debugging..
[18:33] <wsirccc> Well, I am definitely searching something more: my the automation of physical machines shall be test es well.
[18:34] <wsirccc> Just recall uvtools because soone else mentioned it before here in the chat.
[18:35] <wsirccc> sarnold: "got a lot more work", which one ?
[18:35] <sarnold> you certainly could distribute raw images and virsh command line scripts to import the VM but assuming people have a working libvirt install may be asking a lot too
[18:37] <wsirccc> sarnold: Do you know anybody, who does it?
[18:38] <sarnold> nothing that does everything you want
[18:38] <wsirccc> I could distribute the creating, preseeding script es well, as templates, voala
[18:40] <wsirccc> sarnold: can one asume that there might be really noone how offers ready to use that qcow2 machines?
[18:41] <sarnold> wsirccc: you could either package a shell script that starts kvm with all the needed parameters
[18:41] <sarnold> wsirccc: or you could package a shell script that calls virsh with the needed parameters
[18:41] <wsirccc> why not qemu?
[18:41] <sarnold> wsirccc: but different users will have different networking needs, differentinput devices they want passed through, etc
[18:42] <sarnold> kvm/qemu, same thing :)
[18:44] <wsirccc> well my package is qemu-buro. It is for that use and type of user, not much problem in designing that interface. One Person Buro.
[18:45] <wsirccc> sarnold
[18:45] <wsirccc> sarnold
[18:45] <wsirccc> sarnold
[18:45] <wsirccc> user is set to create is own image templating
[18:45] <wsirccc> pardon
[18:45] <wsirccc> sarnold:?
[18:45] <wsirccc> is/its
[18:46] <teward> give him a minute to read lol
[18:46] <wsirccc> lol about nothing?
[18:46] <teward> he's busy too you know :P
[18:46] <teward> we all are :P
[18:48] <wsirccc> teward: Thats no reason to laugh loud. Especially if you agree on the sake.
[18:49] <wsirccc> So one can hold fast: I have been understand falsely: My tool should imply:user is set to create is own image templating
[19:04] <wsirccc> could distribute raw images and virsh command line scripts to import the VM but assuming people have a working libvirt install may be asking a lot too
[19:04] <wsirccc>  could distribute raw images and virsh command line scripts to import the VM but assuming people have a working libvirt install may be asking a lot too
[19:04] <wsirccc> sarnold
[19:04] <wsirccc> you certainly could distribute raw images and virsh command line scripts to import the VM but assuming people have a working libvirt install may be asking a lot too
[19:05] <wsirccc> " a working libvirt install "
[19:05] <wsirccc> pardon
[19:05] <wsirccc> what is that?
[19:05] <wsirccc> sarnold:?
[19:13] <lordievader> !patience | wsirccc
[19:14] <wsirccc> ok
[19:24] <sarnold> wsirccc: take a look at the virsh manpage for the full range of options available
[19:26] <wsirccc> sarnold: did that some time ago, what should I learn from it?
[19:26] <Blueking> just wonder about dhcp lease time  dhcp request, expire , offer, nak ack   My ethernet interface has mac address  00.25.90.aa.b3.b4  BUT on dhcp logs it says its mac are 00:25:90.aa.bf.97    why is it difference from my ethernet interface ?
[19:29] <Blueking> sarnold u've seen something like that ?
[19:29] <sarnold> Blueking: no, sorry, doesn't make any sense to me
[19:30] <sarnold> wsirccc: virsh shows how to import vms from files into libvirt
[19:30] <Blueking> trying to figure out why renew of ip lease fails
[19:42] <Blueking> patdk-lap alive ?
[19:43]  * Blueking pinching on patdk-lap's right eyeball,,, could it be fake ?
[19:46] <patdk-wk> heh?
[19:46] <patdk-wk> crappy dhcp server
[19:46] <Blueking> think it's dhclient giving wrong mac address somehow
[19:46] <patdk-wk> how is that possible?
[19:47] <patdk-wk> dhclient doesn't give a mac
[19:47] <Blueking> it doesn't ?
[19:47] <patdk-wk> nope
[19:47] <Blueking> tcpdump + dhcp.pcap file shows both wrong mac address
[19:47] <patdk-wk> you do know your osi stack right?
[19:48] <Blueking> when dhcp server was working as expected 3 times in row it used RIGHT mac address 2 days ago
[19:48] <patdk-wk> ya, not helpful
[19:48] <patdk-wk> as I cannot see it
[19:48] <Blueking> I have it in logs
[19:49] <Blueking> trying to understand where this wrong mac coming from :/
[19:49] <Blueking> can I pm u ?
[19:49] <patdk-wk> no
[19:49] <Blueking> just show you the two mac addresses  nothing else
[19:50] <jrwren> a mac comes from a NIC
[19:50] <jrwren> dhcp server assigns IP to a MAC (poorly worded)
[19:51] <patdk-wk> it cannot cross l2 segments
[19:51] <Blueking> right mac  00:25:90:aa:b3:b4    wrong mac   00:25:90:aa:bf:97
[19:51] <nacc> Blueking: so you have a DHCP server, and you have your client, and your client has MAC 00.25.90.aa.b3.b4, but your server says it gave a lease to 90.aa.bf.97 ?
[19:51] <nacc> and no mention of b3.b4?
[19:51] <Blueking> mine ISP's dhcp server
[19:51] <Blueking> yes
[19:51] <patdk-wk> isp's do not do l2 segments
[19:51] <patdk-wk> they use dhcp relays
[19:51] <patdk-wk> the dhcp relay is likely having issues
[19:52] <sarnold> same mac vendor is funny thuogh
[19:52] <patdk-wk> or maybe the isp supplied hardware, dsl/cable/... modem
[19:52] <sarnold> ahhh
[19:52] <sarnold> then they're all going to be arris or whatever :)
[19:53]  * patdk-wk is just happy grub got fixed
[19:53] <patdk-wk> and I can boot encrypted with uefi
[19:53] <sarnold> \o/
[19:53] <Blueking> toshiba  dhcp server ?
[19:53] <patdk-wk> Blueking, you aren't doing something odd are you, like using bonding/teaming/....
[19:54] <patdk-wk> or have some kind of shared nic (ipmi/ilo/....)
[19:54] <Blueking> dhcp server  on ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:54] <Blueking> no, the other nic are busy on lan (lokal)
[19:54] <Blueking> local
[19:54] <Blueking> that has ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:55] <patdk-wk> nothing you can locate on your network has that other mac?
[19:55] <patdk-wk> or one close to it
[19:55] <Blueking> just wonder why bf:97 instead of b3:b4
[19:56] <Blueking> the other nic b3:b5
[19:56] <nacc> Blueking: if this was your ISP providing a DHCP lease, what logs were you referring to above? do you mean DHCPREQUEST or so in /var/log/syslog?
[19:56] <Blueking> tcpdump.cap + tshark  udp port range 67-68
[19:57] <Blueking> both shows same wrong mac
[19:57] <nacc> Blueking: and i guess that goes back to patdk-wk's question -- is it possible another device on your network has that mac?
[19:57] <patdk-wk> what does both mean?
[19:57] <patdk-wk> what where in those does it show it?
[19:57] <Blueking> 2 days ago  there were 3  correct lease renew and IT used the correct mac address
[19:58] <Blueking> I only have one supermicro device   this mobo
[19:58]  * patdk-wk gives up
[19:58] <Blueking> wait I'll show pcap file
[19:59] <jrwren> i wonder if it is something silly like you rebooted and your ethernet devices swapped for some reason.
[20:02] <Blueking> em1 = 00.25.90.d4.c1.c6 and em2 00.25.90.d4.c1.c7
[20:02] <Blueking> em1 & em2 thernet devices
[20:03] <Blueking> dhcp server  think it's 00.25.90.d4.bf.97
[20:04] <patdk-wk> doubtful
[20:04] <Blueking> mine logs show it
[20:04] <patdk-wk> the dhcp server is not on the same l2 segment as you
[20:05] <patdk-wk> so there is no way you can see it
[20:05] <patdk-wk> you can see the dhcprelay/gateway that responds to you
[20:05] <wsirccc> sarnold: so "libvirt install" what does it for me, what I should have done otherwise manually.
[20:06] <Blueking> Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: <IP_ADDRESS>, Dst: <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:06] <wsirccc> sarnold:having read: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/FAQ#What_is_some_of_the_major_functionality_provided_by_libvirt.3F
[20:07] <Blueking> Ethernet II, Src: SuperMic_d4:bf:97 (00:25:90:d4:bf:97), Dst: Broadcast (ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff)
[20:07] <Blueking> wireshark  on pcap file
[20:07] <Blueking> the correct one
[20:08] <Blueking> Ethernet II, Src: SuperMic_d4:c1:c6 (00:25:90:d4:c1:c6), Dst: ToshibaT_01:00:01 (00:06:00:01:00:01)
[20:08] <jrwren> Blueking: pastebin `ip addr show` output and `ip route show` output
[20:09] <jrwren> Blueking: and pastebin `ip neigh show` output for good measure
[20:09] <Blueking> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15678338/
[20:09] <Blueking> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15678342/
[20:10] <Blueking> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15678354/
[20:10] <patdk-wk> in no way whatsoever is that mac address from the dhcp server
[20:11] <Blueking> I have had problem with dhcp renew of ip/lease
[20:11] <Blueking> for 3 weeks
[20:12] <supNow> just upgraded ubuntu server to 14.04 and I'm getting a grub_term_highlight_color not found error. google search suggests it can't find grub but I havn't found any real information on how to fix. Does anyone know a quick fix to this issue?
[20:12] <Blueking> jrwren what u think ?
[20:13] <jrwren> Blueking: I think it is very strange.
[20:13] <patdk-wk> we still dunno if that mac is somewhere else on your network
[20:14] <Blueking> havn't noticed the mac address before 30 minute ago
[20:14] <patdk-wk> or even in another home
[20:15] <Blueking> dhcp.pcap showed wrong mac when dhcp renew lease fails... when dhcp server  finally 3 times in a row two days ago in 4-5 hours worked as it should do it used the right mac address
[20:16] <Blueking> I can upload  two pcap files that u can study in wireshark
[20:17] <wsirccc> sarnold:https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/try-it/ this is amazing. But I still do not feel very secure that I am on the right way..
[20:17] <wsirccc> ..
[20:17] <jrwren> can you kill your running dhclient and run `dhclient -1 -v -pf /run/dhclient.em1.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.em1.leases em1` ?
[20:17] <Blueking> ok
[20:17] <jrwren> Blueking: err, add a -d to that.
[21:17] <DirtyCajun> if i had a managed switch and i vlan separate vlan 1 to port1 (my server)  and port 2 (the modem).. then vlan2 port 1 (my server) and ports 3-8 .. i could dhcp with only 1 nic that way right?
[21:24] <Blueking> ok problem solved :)
[21:33] <Blueking> ok problem solved jrwren and patdk-lap patdk-wk :)
[21:46] <patdk-wk> till next week?
[21:46] <patdk-wk> what do you believe solved it?
[21:56] <NwS> heya guys, any suggestions for a full clone/backup of an ubuntu server 14.04LTS without a restart?
[21:56] <TJ-> NwS: image the block devices, or clone the installed packages and configs?
[21:59] <NwS> I want to make a full backup copy just in case something happens and restore everything later
[21:59] <NwS> And yeah have never done this before so -.-"
[22:01] <TJ-> !backups | NwS
[22:01] <NwS> ty for the info TJ-
[22:01] <Blueking> patdk-wk: ipmi   management lan  had same IP as ethernet inerface em1    ipmi have mac address 00.25.90.d4.bf.97
[22:01] <Blueking> TJ-  fixed problem
[22:02] <Blueking> TJ-  it was ipmi/management lan that was reason for net drop outs... dhcp did see ipmi's mac address
[22:02] <TJ-> Blueking: so I hear! So the problem was due to the server-board
[22:02] <Blueking> yes
[22:03] <Blueking> it's good to have it fixed :)
[22:03] <Blueking> TJ-  patdk-wk didn't believe in wrong mac reason :P
[22:04]  * Blueking pats patdk-wk on shoulder
[22:05] <TJ-> Blueking: so the IPMI was getting between the ISP and the OS?
[22:05] <Blueking> supermicro   for some years  had ipmi and ethernet nic on same physical connector ?
[22:05] <Blueking> but  not anymore says RoyK
[22:07] <Blueking> bedtime  hopefully there will be none disconnects for long time
[22:07] <Blueking> we'll see in some days :)
[22:11] <sarnold> Blueking: if you've only got one ethernet wire to your supermicro, it'll run the ipmi/bmc _and_ regular NIC functionality on that one NIC
[22:12] <Blueking> ok
[22:12] <Blueking> think I have to swap nic's  so ipmi are only visible on local network
[22:13] <Blueking> just tested arping -i em1  impi's IP
[22:13] <Blueking> ipmi
[22:13] <Blueking> not visible on em2
[22:17] <sarnold> nice, that's robably a good idea
[22:18] <sarnold> i'm not sure i'm going to bother at home, chances are good nsa / mossad are already embedded (cool dudes i'm sure)
[23:24] <rbasak> hallyn: I've filed bug 1567696 and bug 1567695


[06:30] <andrew> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/nklon/will_canonical_uninstall_sun_java_on_operational/
[06:32] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2011-December/001528.html is the actual announcement
[06:32] <pleia2> just when I think Oracle can't become more evil... :)
[06:32] <pleia2> they surprise me so!
[10:47] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:52] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[12:22] <waltman> Morning.
[12:23] <rmg51> o/
[13:04] <teddy-dbear> morning
[13:29] <jedijf> this shrimp roll is hot
[15:43] <ChinnoDog> gobble gobble
[17:28] <InHisName> Morning, got back a bit ago from semi-annual blood letting to check for Cholesterol levels.
[17:28] <InHisName> oops, afternoon
[22:22] <InHisName> anyone a dnsmasq 'expert' ?
[22:48] <Sadin> nope sorry InHisName
[22:48] <Sadin> but guess what :D
[22:48] <InHisName> Ummm, 38?
[22:48] <Sadin> arch is falling behind in packages so im switching to debian so i can build my own system from ground one up
[22:48] <Sadin> :D
[22:49] <InHisName> I thought you wanted to go to arch to be away from debian / ubuntu ?
[22:49] <Sadin> ubuntu
[22:51] <Sadin> not debian was fine with me but seeing how arch has 46,000 people about a hundred of em can actually manage packages and that 46,000 is including non active people where as a project like openSUSE or debian have thousands of devs im moving to one of them
[22:51] <Sadin> im leaning towards debian cause ive got friends in the apt-get/dpkg world lol
[22:52] <InHisName> I see you've put some thought into it.
[22:52] <Sadin> You know what i mean InHisName the ammount of packages that arent up to date or arent even backed by the OS itself is meh...
[22:52] <Sadin> and yes i have
[22:52] <Sadin> lol
[22:53] <Sadin> i gtg afk see you all later!