[00:34] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Ping ping ping :)
[00:34] <tsimonq2> slangasek: We have Alpha 2 images?
[00:38] <tsimonq2> slangasek: If not, could you Please Make It Happen ASAP? I'm getting poked by people, I got on here late because of a headache...
[00:38] <slangasek> tsimonq2: uh, I don't think that should be a question to me, the flavor teams should be triggering builds of their own images from iso.qa.ubuntu.com?  but let me make sure the milestone is on the tracker
[00:39] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Archive block? :))
[00:39] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Don't we do that for milestones? :))))
[00:39] <wxl> maybe extend the release date given the confusion
[00:39] <slangasek> tsimonq2: well. we do, but that's not a prereq for building candidate images.
[00:40] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Ok, so how can Mr. wxl help with that? He has access...
[00:40] <wxl> afaik he has to get the milestone on there before i can do anything but maybe i'm worng
[00:41] <tsimonq2> wxl: Who does?
[00:42] <wxl> tsimonq2: release team
[00:42] <slangasek> zesty alpha 2 milestone created
[00:42] <slangasek> tsimonq2: what's the list of flavors participating in alpha2?
[00:43] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Ubuntu Budgie, Kubuntu, Lubuntu
[00:43] <tsimonq2> I know that for sure
[00:44] <tsimonq2> Looking on the ML to see if anyone else is in...
[00:44] <wxl> def. not Xubuntu
[00:44] <wxl> probably Kylin
[00:44] <wxl> you should check in with them
[00:44] <tsimonq2> ^ that was my thought yeah
[00:44] <wxl> i haven't heard from Gnome folks in a while
[00:44] <tsimonq2> slangasek: And Ubuntu GNOME
[00:45] <tsimonq2> wxl: See the ML
[00:45] <wxl> or, come to think of it, MATE!
[00:45] <wxl> can we push out the release until LATE thursday or early friday?
[00:45] <tsimonq2> Whatever slangasek is comfortable with.
[00:46] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: You in for Alpha 2?
[00:46] <tsimonq2> Oh I wish I didn't have this headache so I could have caught him a few hours ago /o\
[00:46] <wxl> well i'm feeling kind of ill for what it's worth
[00:46] <wxl> mom in law's going in for surgery tomorrow too :(
[00:46] <tsimonq2> It's going around
[00:47] <tsimonq2> wxl: Eek, good luck to her
[00:47] <wxl> one of the bafoons at work was coughing all over the place yesterday
[00:47] <tsimonq2> slangasek: So I think our list is: Ubuntu Budgie, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, and Ubuntu GNOME, waiting to hear from Ubuntu MATE
[00:47] <tsimonq2> slangasek: We can add more flavors if necessary tomorrow?
[00:48] <slangasek> tsimonq2: ok, have triggered builds, hopefully those land in the correct milestone
[00:48] <tsimonq2> slangasek: \o/
[00:49] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Thank you. :)
[01:13] <tsimonq2> slangasek: So...why is this empty, just curious?
[01:13] <tsimonq2> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/371/builds
[01:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[01:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate powerpc [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[01:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[02:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[02:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop powerpc [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[02:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[02:41] <slangasek> tsimonq2: ^^ because builds take time.  not empty anymore.
[02:42] <slangasek> though the kubuntu builds failed and I'm retrying that now
[02:42] <tsimonq2> slangasek: No need to retry
[02:42] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Known bug
[02:43] <tsimonq2> slangasek: And yes, sorry for my impatience. :)
[02:43] <tsimonq2> (didn't know that builds are what populated it...)
[02:43] <slangasek> is it? the build log complained about hash mismatches on apt sources
[02:43] <tsimonq2> Yep.
[02:43]  * tsimonq2 finds Debian bug
[02:43] <slangasek> ok, well, then it'll fail the same way again
[02:44] <tsimonq2> slangasek: http://bugs.debian.org/838441
[02:44] <slangasek> why is that only affecting kubuntu?
[02:44] <tsimonq2> slangasek: I pinged juliank and he gave me a temporary workaround, so we're good for now.
[02:44] <tsimonq2> Because look at his work around... (finding logs)
[02:45] <tsimonq2> 07:40:05 PM <juliank> I assume the kubuntu meta package enables the hidpi icons for appstream, I'd disable them for now, this should  work around the issue  for unknown reasons
[02:45] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[02:47] <slangasek> ah ok
[02:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libdrm [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.4.70-1~ubuntu16.04.1]
[02:47] <slangasek> well, once that's sorted I guess you'll still need an initial kubuntu alpha2 build triggered from nusakan
[02:48] <tsimonq2> Ok
[02:49] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Also, while you're around, wine made apt start whining and it won't shut up, confirmed:
[02:49] <tsimonq2> W: Ignoring Provides line with non-equal DepCompareOp for package wine
[02:49] <tsimonq2> (user in #ubuntu+1 confirmed this morning)
[02:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[02:56] <tsimonq2> flocculant: Uh what? -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[03:05] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Nevermind I think
[04:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
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[05:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-django-tagging [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1:0.4.5-1] (no packageset)
[05:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
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[06:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted juju-core [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[06:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted juju-core [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.0.2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[06:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub-installer [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.128ubuntu5.1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
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[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server s390x [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[07:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-django-tagging [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1:0.4.5-1]
[07:29] <flocculant> can someone from the release team get Xubuntu removed from this alpha 2 thing please :)
[07:29] <flocculant> tia
[07:34] <flocculant> not quite sure how one arch got added :)
[08:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
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[08:53] <ginggs> tsimonq2: c.paelzer reported the wine issue in -devel, j.uliank had a look. it was a bad merge, should already be fixed in 1.8.6-3ubuntu2
[08:58] <cpaelzer> cool I get a highlight even with a . in my name - how did that work :-)
[09:02] <flexiondotorg> tsimonq2 We'd like to be, not sure if we've left it too late?
[09:02] <flexiondotorg> Aha, I see images :-)
[09:03] <cpaelzer> tsimonq2: FYI since I was waiting for it as well I happen to know that the fixed wine binary was pubished 2017-01-24 17:38:49 UTC
[09:03] <cpaelzer> tsimonq2: well you could check that on publication history as well, but I had that still open this morning
[10:16] <fossfreedom_> Hi all - for Ubuntu Budgie we cannot see any tests for Alpha 2 in the ISO tracker (http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/371/builds) - please can someone have a look at this please?
[10:48] <tseliot> sil2100: hey, apparently my ubuntu-core-dev membership has expired. Can you add me back, please?
[10:49] <tseliot> my username is albertomilone
[10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop i386 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[10:50] <Laney> fossfreedom_: there
[10:55] <tseliot> infinity: or if you can do it too, please? ^^
[10:56]  * tseliot is changes the procmail filters that made him miss the notifications
[10:56] <tseliot> s/is//
[10:56] <sil2100> tseliot: uh oh!
[10:57] <sil2100> tseliot: let me look into that :)
[10:57] <tseliot> sil2100: thanks!
[10:58] <fossfreedom_> Laney: many thanks!
[11:01] <sil2100> tseliot: ok, you should be renewed now
[11:03] <tseliot> sil2100: thanks a lot! :)
[11:04] <sil2100> tseliot: yw!
[11:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-375 (zesty-proposed/primary) [375.26-0ubuntu1]
[11:10] <marcusto_> marcustomlinson
[11:10] <marcustomlinson_> oops
[11:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: humanity-icon-theme (xenial-proposed/main) [0.6.10 => <IP_ADDRESS>] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[11:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-dsv [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.4.1-5] (no packageset)
[11:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected uvtool [sync] (trusty-proposed) [0~bzr92-0ubuntu2]
[11:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected landscape-client [source] (trusty-proposed) [14.12-0ubuntu1.14.04]
[11:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-dsv [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.4.1-5]
[11:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: humanity-icon-theme (yakkety-proposed/main) [0.6.11 => <IP_ADDRESS>] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[11:35] <Laney> sil2100: if you've got a minute, would appreciate review of those humanity-icon-theme SRUs
[11:35] <Laney> they want to try to get them into .2 - don't know how likely that is, but -proposed is the first step anyway
[11:36] <Laney> debdiff doesn't work very well on them I'm afraid (bzr diff is more reasonable)
[11:38] <sil2100> Laney: hey! Let me take a look then
[11:38] <Laney> thanks!
[11:40] <sil2100> heh, yeah, seeing a 15MiB diff on the queue doesn't seem like review-friendly ;D
[11:41] <rbasak> I have a working branch of the git importer that lets us review from the unapproved queue in git, with reference to the same source package in the rest of the archive (so you can diff against arbitrary versions, etc)
[11:54] <apw> rbasak, interesting
[12:00] <rbasak> apw: for example, I'm reviewing pyqt5 right now. Here's my view of it: https://git.launchpad.net/~racb/ubuntu/+source/pyqt5
[12:01] <rbasak> and https://git.launchpad.net/~racb/ubuntu/+source/pyqt5/log/?id=queue/trusty/unapproved/5b7b0a3
[12:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted humanity-icon-theme [source] (xenial-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[12:07] <Dmitrii-Sh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu/+bug/1656480 is now in the upload queue. If anybody from the SRU team has time, please take a look. The verification steps are provided in the bug but I can give an even more detailed description if needed.
[12:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted humanity-icon-theme [source] (yakkety-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[12:10] <sil2100> Laney: both approved
[12:10] <Laney> sil2100: you're my hero
[12:10] <Laney> or System 76's hero maybe
[12:13] <sil2100> ;p
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-cloud-sdk (yakkety-proposed/partner) [128.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 140.0.0-0ubuntu1~16.10] (no packageset)
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-cloud-sdk (xenial-proposed/partner) [111.0.0-0ubuntu1~16.04.0 => 140.0.0-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[12:23] <flocculant> thanks whoever moved xubuntu out of a2 - did updating iso get switched back on for it?
[12:26] <Laney> Doesn't look like any entries are disabled yet
[12:26] <Laney> I guess I could do that
[12:27] <flocculant> Laney: not sure what the state of those are - not even sure how half of xubuntu could get on the a2 bit :)
[12:27] <flocculant> ty anyway :)
[12:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qemu [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.8]
[12:28] <apw> Dmitrii-Sh, ^ ... if you want to test that when it finshes building that'd be good
[12:29] <Laney> flocculant: presumably because there's no i386 in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/pending/
[12:33] <flocculant> Laney: 32bit built when it was supposed to last night - and exists on the daily tracker - 64bit didn't build last night and ended up on a2 *shrug*
[12:33] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Please build Ubuntu Kylin images and Ubuntu MATE images, they're in.
[12:33] <flocculant> anyway - just wanted to make sure our dailies where still set to build overnight
[12:34] <Laney> flocculant: sure looks like i386 is behind to me
[12:34] <tsimonq2> Laney: He's sleeping, any chance you could just add those quick? ^
[12:34] <Laney> tsimonq2: they are there already
[12:34] <tsimonq2> Oh really? Cool.
[12:35] <flocculant> Laney: yea - sorry - lunch time not concentrating
[12:35] <Laney> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/xubuntu/zesty/daily-live-20170125.log
[12:35] <Laney> don't ask me why though
[12:36] <tsimonq2> slangasek: nvm
[12:36] <flocculant> Laney: ok thanks - don't ask me why either :p
[12:42] <Dmitrii-Sh> apw: I can check. Did that for yakkety as the fix came there from the qemu upstream
[12:43] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: Not too late, you're in. :)
[13:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pyqt5 [source] (trusty-proposed) [5.2.1+dfsg-1ubuntu2]
[13:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted icingaweb2 [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.1.0-1ubuntu1.2]
[13:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pdns-recursor [source] (xenial-proposed) [4.0.0~alpha2-2ubuntu0.1]
[13:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted wxwidgets3.0 [source] (xenial-proposed) [3.0.2+dfsg-1.3ubuntu0.1]
[14:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gss-ntlmssp [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.7.0-3~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gss-ntlmssp [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.7.0-3~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:43] <barry> sil2100: did you get a chance to review u-i sru?  anything i can do to help?
[14:47] <cpaelzer> robru: on bileto I wonder how I can force a "re-test" of autopkgtest
[14:48] <cpaelzer> robru: hitting the usual restart icon (the one that looks like a recycling circle of arrows) gives me only "login via sso" and clicking that does nothing
[14:48] <cpaelzer> robru: I tried setting the Lander Sign-off to "" and then back to "approved" which gets it to the state queued
[14:49] <cpaelzer> robru: but I realized that it finds it is done already and goes to the old results
[14:49] <cpaelzer> what is the way to re-kick all Tests for a ticket in bileto?
[14:50] <cpaelzer> uploading a new version being the obvious choice, but if there is something simpler I'd like to know
[15:33] <slangasek> tjaalton: gss-ntlmssp> you know about debhelper's support for .maintscript?  saves you repeating dpkg-maintscript snippets in multiple places
[15:43] <tjaalton> slangasek: i've probably heard about it in the past but haven't used it..
[15:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ironic [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1:6.2.2-0ubuntu1]
[15:48] <sil2100> barry: hey! I checked it briefly, but I think we still need to wait the 7-day grace period for SRUs, no?
[15:49] <barry> sil2100: oh, maybe so
[15:52] <sil2100> Asking since maybe u-i has some exception or something, since I'm new to the SRU team
[15:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: galileo (yakkety-proposed/universe) [0.5.0-1 => 0.5.0-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected galileo [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.5.0-1ubuntu1]
[16:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted galileo [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.5.0-1ubuntu1]
[16:07] <mapreri> rbasak: re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/galileo/+bug/1650046/comments/15 - yes, I work on Debian, and indeed I noticed it doesn't add Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed in the .changes, but didn't care till now since lauchpad seems to close bugs nonetheless.
[16:09] <mapreri> Do you mean that some other tool that you use to process SRUs rely on that field?  If so I guess I can just use -D"Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed=12345 6790" while building the source for SRUs
[16:14] <slangasek> mapreri: yes, the sru processing tools all look at the set of bugs in .changes to track what bugs need sru verification
[16:15] <mapreri> I wonder if I do something else to have dpkg behaves ubuntuish while doing ubuntu stuff.  maybe exporting DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu is enough for this.
[16:15] <mapreri> …if I *can* do something…
[16:16] <slangasek> mapreri: dpkg's behavior is sensitive to DEBEMAIL=.*ubuntu
[16:16] <Laney> that works, but you might have to make /etc/dpkg/origins/ubuntu exist first
[16:17] <mapreri> slangasek: o.O  that sounds so much like a layer violation
[16:17] <slangasek> none of the layers in between are interesting
[16:17] <mapreri> That said, I already export<EMAIL_ADDRESS>so it'd still be something to change when I do ubuntu-only work.
[16:17] <mapreri> Laney: point, thanks
[16:18] <slangasek> Laney's trick might also work, I've never tried
[16:18] <Laney> I think it's the vendor rather than the email
[16:18] <rbasak> mapreri: yeah, what slangasek said. When I ran "sru-review" (the first step), the first thing it said was "NO BUGS!!1!". But if I ignored that and went ahead, I think the pending-sru report may be wrong as well (though haven't checked)
[16:18] <slangasek> rbasak: yes, it would be
[16:18] <Laney> The email thing is IIRC for screaming at you if you don't fix the maintainer
[16:19] <slangasek> rbasak: it's fair game (but not required) to reject, download, reupload w/ correct dpkg options, and accept, in such cases
[16:19] <mapreri> rbasak: I've did several SRU, and all of them the same way, it's the first time somebody bring this topic up.
[16:19] <rbasak> slangasek: indeed, and I did :-)
[16:19] <slangasek> ok :)
[16:19] <mapreri> Thanks for it, I'll improve/fixup my setup/workflow :)
[16:20] <rbasak> mapreri: no problem. Thank you for caring :-)
[16:22] <acheronuk> can a source be removed from zesty if it's still in debian unstable? and if so, if there any protection from someone trying to be helpful and re-syncing it?
[16:22] <mapreri> AFAIK yes on both, but nothing can stop somebody from manually uploading it.
[16:24] <acheronuk> mapreri: well, very unlikely anyone would want to do that with the old defunct KDE4 stuff I'm thinking of. so that seems to be ok
[16:26] <mapreri> acheronuk: well, if it's dead stuff, why not just get it RMed from debian?  (ubuntu will follow after some time, when a random Archive Admin gets more free time than usual to sync up on the removals)
[16:31] <acheronuk> mapreri: we are for once ahead of debian slightly on KDE applications, so they may still have some deps on some of it that we don't (or won't). may be able to do that with some though
[16:31] <mapreri> TBH, in the past I noticed a lot of K* packages that were several upstream version ahead in Ubuntu than in Debian, and I couldn't get it at all…
[16:32]  * mapreri is very biased, being both ubuntu and debian developer, and having "push ubuntu deltas into Debian" as one point of his MOTU application :)
[16:39] <robru> cpaelzer: only core dev can restart autopkgtests within the same package version
[16:41] <acheronuk> mapreri: yeah, 'for once' may have been a bad choice of words. 'once again' may be more accurate. but I've not been doing this that long, so my comparative memory is short
[16:43] <mapreri> acheronuk: doesn't actually really surprise this time, given that debian is freezing, though.
[16:45] <acheronuk> that is certainly part of it
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[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ngraph-gtk [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [6.07.02-2]
[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ntirpc [i386] (zesty-proposed) [1.4.1-1]
[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ntirpc [s390x] (zesty-proposed) [1.4.1-1]
[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ntirpc [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.4.1-1]
[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ntirpc [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [1.4.1-1]
[17:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ngraph-gtk [i386] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.07.02-2] (no packageset)
[17:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[17:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Alpha 2] (20170125) has been added
[17:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-nebulouslabs-merkletree [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20160203.0.f01b2e9-1] (no packageset)
[17:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ntirpc [powerpc] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.4.1-1] (no packageset)
[17:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: xtrkcad [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1:4.2.4a-1] (no packageset)
[17:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ngraph-gtk [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.07.02-2] (no packageset)
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-huin-goupnp [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20161025.0.97f671e-1] (no packageset)
[18:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Alpha 2] has been updated (20170125.3)
[18:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Alpha 2] has been updated (20170125.3)
[19:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-glanceclient (trusty-proposed/main) [1:0.12.0-0ubuntu1.1 => 1:0.12.0-0ubuntu1.2] (ubuntu-server)
[19:07] <cpaelzer> thanks robru
[20:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: appmenu-qt5 (xenial-proposed/main) [0.3.0+16.04.20151130-0ubuntu1 => 0.3.0+16.04.20151130-0ubuntu2] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-qt-packages)
[21:19] <lamont> oh hai.  I'm hoping to upload a package to zesty to address bug 1645912 sometime today/tomorrow morning.  Can I get feedback on that SRU info ahead of time, so that we can get the screaming, cursing, and crying done beforehand?
[21:43] <clivejo> anyone on the release team who could please review and accept the new KDE packages in the queue?
[21:46] <flocculant> fossfreedom: just for your information - I've been checking various flavours/greeters - you are affected by bug 1656399
[22:03] <camako> Does anyone know why I"m getting this error?
[22:03] <camako> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/303893883/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-amd64.qtmir_0.5.1+17.04.20170125.1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[22:03] <camako> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpthreads
[22:04] <camako> this is ticket #2369
[22:04] <camako> trying to build qtmir
[22:15] <cjwatson> camako: it's normally -lpthread not -lpthreads ...
[22:15] <cjwatson> camako: probably a typo in your package
[22:16] <camako> cjwatson, thanks... I realized this wasn't the problem.
[22:16] <cjwatson> (don't see it in the qtmir diff, but maybe in a dependency)
[23:05] <fossfreedom> flocculant: yes - similarly affected (although you confirmed before I started looking!).  Thanks.  subscribing.
[23:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xserver-xorg-input-libinput [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.18.0-1ubuntu0.1]
[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xserver-xorg-input-libinput [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.19.0-1ubuntu0.1]


[01:47] <teward> paride: fyi RE: #1992653 it's reproducible as written by you on Jammy amd64.  I don't have any bare metal Kinetic amd64 so unless a VM would be sufficient for testing I'm not going to be able to provide much better.  (just an FYI)
[02:18] <teward> paride: confirmed also in a Kinetic VM on the Jammy amd64 hostl
[02:18] <teward> same steps as you except chrooting into the chroot explodes
[02:18] <teward> (fresh VM install too)
[08:33] <paride> teward, interesting, thanks
[09:17] <paride> I just tried again and again it worked fine for me. Also tried on another machine using a Kinetic VM and still worked
[09:17] <paride> commented to the bug
[10:26] <caribou> rbasak: Hi, given the Final Freeze, this means that the upload for LP: #1992454 will have to wait ?
[10:26] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1992454 in iptables (Ubuntu Kinetic) "iptables: segfault when renaming a chain" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1992454
[10:35] <caribou> iptables beings seeded
[10:43] <seb128> caribou, hey. It's a freeze, you can always upload, there is just a queue the upload might not be accepted from
[10:44] <seb128> caribou, you can make your case on  #ubuntu-release about why it should be accept in the release, we haven't got ISOs yet and there will be probably be respin early next week still
[10:45] <seb128> caribou, also if there is a bug reference and it's not accepted for the release it can then still be accepted as a SRU and kept in proposed until kinetic is out (and be released as a 0 day SRU if needed)
[11:03] <rbasak> Sorry I missed your update.
[11:04] <rbasak> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2022-October/001324.html says we can upload, just like Seb says
[11:04] <rbasak> DId you check that the test actually runs in the latest version please?
[12:00] <caribou> rbasak: let me double-check but last I ran, it only ran once including the new test
[12:13] <caribou> rbasak: FYI I just updated the bug with the latest autopkgtest run
[12:13] <rbasak> Thanks!
[12:13] <rbasak> Looking
[12:21] <rbasak> Sponsored. Thanks!
[12:32] <caribou> Great thanks! I have the debdiffs ready for the SRUs
[12:42] <rbasak> Personally I'm a little reluctant to sponsor SRUs immediately because the upstream commit hasn't seen a release yet, AFAICT. I'd want to review the patch more thoroughly, or let some time pass for any issues to become known. Especially given that this bug has presumably existed for years users without issue. Breaking iptables would be bad!
[13:12] <caribou> rbasak: that's not what I meant. Just wanted to let you know that they were ready.
[13:13] <caribou> I don't think it's advisable to rush things in : there is a workaround for that on our side so we have time
[13:28] <rbasak> caribou: sorry I didn't mean to imply that you're rushing. It's fine and apprpropriate to have the SRUs ready - thanks :)
[20:42] <bdmurray> tsimonq2: I thought you'd mentioned working on a ubiquity fix yesterday. Did you get anywhere?
[22:16] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: I did, but ran out of open source time. I passed along all of my findings to Eickmeyer.


[04:17] <ouyes>  i want to add  two shortcuts of display desktop and open home folder in xubuntu, i do not know the command name of the two ,who can tell me ?
[05:28] <ouyes> there is no lock screen shortcut? how to add one?
[06:08] <tvaughn> how do i add a shortcut to my panel up top for terminal etc
[09:09] <jarnos> Is X restarted when you log out of Xfce session in 9.04 and 9.10?
[09:09] <Sysi-> yes
[09:13] <jarnos> Sysi-: thanks
[11:43] <jarnos> Can you use xinerama in 9.04?
[12:38] <ouyes> it is so strange, i can mount,  create files, delete files, but i just can not copy files, what is wrong? i can not copy files from a ntfs partition to a ext4 filesystem(my home directory0, can anyone help me
[13:06] <TheSheep> ouyes: what's the error?
[13:07] <ouyes> TheSheep, no error message
[13:07] <ouyes> you just can not paste files
[13:07] <ouyes> TheSheep,  it is quite strange
[13:08] <ouyes> TheSheep, you just can not copy files from the ntfs partition to ext4 home folder
[13:11] <ouyes> TheSheep, are you still there
[13:15] <TheSheep> ouyes: you issue the copy command and it prints no message?
[13:16] <TheSheep> ouyes: maybe you have no write access to where you are trying to copy to?
[13:17] <ouyes> TheSheep, but it is my home fold, how can i have no write access?
[13:17] <TheSheep> how about free space?
[13:22] <ouyes> enough
[13:37] <BeepBeep> Has anyone been having erratic behavior with mouse and then a total freeze? Using x64 v9.10
[13:37] <icek0ld> no
[13:37] <icek0ld> sry
[13:37] <BeepBeep> Mouse shows same prob with both PS2 and USB mouse
[13:37] <BeepBeep> ok tnx
[13:38] <BeepBeep> I feel it maybe SW related as I did not hv it at the start. Something I added on.
[13:38] <BeepBeep> Any suggestions as to what I cud try?
[13:39] <icek0ld> sound like a confilict of device try one usb at a time to isolate the prob same for ps2
[13:39] <BeepBeep> ok tnx appreciate it.
[13:39] <Pres-Gas> BeepBeep, I would look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log* and messages
[13:39] <icek0ld> it's just an idea
[13:39] <BeepBeep> ok
[13:40] <Pres-Gas> You can paste any anomolies to the pastebin and we can look at it as well.
[13:40] <Pres-Gas> !pastebin
[13:40] <BeepBeep> Ok great.
[13:40] <BeepBeep> Shall check
[13:40] <Pres-Gas> :D
[15:16] <yesitisjustme> i have a sprint wireless card and baud rate is 9600 is this to low or is it correct?
[17:13] <rosco> anyone - i'm shopping for a distro for an older laptop.  1Ghz and 128Rram.  32Gig HD.  would xubuntu work?
[17:16] <rosco> anyone?
[17:19] <charlie-tca> With 128MG ram, it will run very slow
[17:19] <charlie-tca> You would not be able to use the gui, as I recall
[17:21]  * charlie-tca wondering if I said it wrong?
[17:22] <vinnl> It will definitely not be pleasant
[17:23] <charlie-tca> so maybe it wasn't me?
[17:24] <vinnl> I believe we mention as minimum requirement 192MB
[17:25] <charlie-tca> yeah, but who reads anything these days?
[17:26] <charlie-tca> didn't put it on facebook or twitter, it ain't true, right?
[17:26] <vinnl> Obviously
[17:26]  * charlie-tca using weechat in lucid, seem to be missing most of the shifted letters
[17:29] <charlie-tca> (even the ceo of sun resigned via twitter today)
[17:29] <vinnl> 0.o
[17:47] <ubuntu> somone know of any graphical ubuntu application to write Floppy images?
[17:57] <charlie-tca> bittin: once you mount them, you can use thunar just like with any other drive, AFAIR
[17:58] <bittin> :o and that unpacks the image etc etc?
[17:59] <charlie-tca> unpack? a floppy should be just another disk formatted in fat16 or fat32, isn't it?
[17:59] <charlie-tca> or any other fs you format it too
[17:59] <bittin> yea but i downloaded an image of DOS 7.1
[17:59] <bittin> how do i write it to a floppydisk?
[17:59] <charlie-tca> image as in iso image?
[18:00] <bittin> the readme says winimage are it something like that out for Linux
[18:00] <bittin> charlie-tca, yes
[18:00] <charlie-tca> burn it to a cd, then copy it to the floppy, I would guess
[18:00] <charlie-tca> or try burn to floppy, if it is available when you right click the image
[18:01] <bittin> *facepalm*
[18:02] <charlie-tca> When I click an iso, I can "open with brasero", then I should be able to tell brasero which device to use
[18:02] <bittin> charlie-tca, Brasero can't use Floppy drives :(
[18:03] <charlie-tca> Oh! well, burn it to the cd, then?
[18:03]  * charlie-tca knows lucid can't burn at all
[18:03] <bittin> but the computer dosen't want to boot cds
[18:03] <charlie-tca> burn to cd, copy to floppy?
[18:04] <charlie-tca> or use k3b, maybe
[18:04] <charlie-tca> Not sure what will burn to floppy, now. They tell me lucid is trying to find floppy image on every boot now.
[18:05] <charlie-tca> even when there is no floppy controller present
[18:06] <bittin> i tried dd now will see if it works if it does i will write floppy #2 :)
[18:11] <charlie-tca> good luck
[18:27] <dimitris> hi folks
[18:28]  * Psilocybin_Elf waves.
[18:28] <Psilocybin_Elf> Hi
[18:28] <dimitris>  i am trying to play this stream....mms://sentrafm.live24.gr/sentrafm   but i cant with anyone player...any ideas?
[18:28] <Psilocybin_Elf> Not sure what the MMS:// tag is...?! :-S
[18:28] <Psilocybin_Elf> Anyone?
[18:29] <Psilocybin_Elf> Aha: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Messaging_Service
[18:29] <dimitris> mplayer...vlc..
[18:29] <dimitris> no solution! :(
[18:29] <Psilocybin_Elf> or en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Media_Server
[18:29] <Psilocybin_Elf> Not too sure though...
[18:29] <dimitris> i tried the most of them....
[18:29] <Psilocybin_Elf> Have you asked the guys on the mplayer & vlc channels?
[18:30] <dimitris> not yet...you think is a good idea?
[18:30] <dimitris> i will do then!
[18:32] <Psilocybin_Elf> Yeah, I would ask on #mplayer or #vlc
[19:24] <tvaughn> how do i add a shortcut to my panel up top for terminal etc
[19:24] <vinnl> Right-click it, Add new item, Launcher :)
[19:24] <tvaughn> its not letting me
[19:24] <tvaughn> right click launches
[19:25] <vinnl> Ah, you have to make sure you're not clicking another item on the panel
[19:25] <tvaughn> oh
[19:25] <tvaughn> but wheres the bin im looking for
[19:25] <vinnl> Probably in /usr/bin
[19:25] <vinnl> /usr/bin/Terminal e.g.
[19:26] <tvaughn> i know im wondering what the default terminal is for xubuntu 9.10
[19:26] <vinnl> xfce4-terminal, also launched by /usr/bin/Terminal
[19:27] <tvaughn> /usr/bin/tty?
[19:27] <tvaughn> there is no terminal
[19:27] <tvaughn> theres an xterm
[19:27] <vinnl> Hmm, odd, but /usr/share/xfce4-terminal should be there I suppose
[19:28] <tvaughn> nope
[19:29] <vinnl> Oh sorry I mean /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal
[19:29] <tvaughn> got it
[19:29] <tvaughn> :)
[19:30] <blip-> hi, I just upgraded to xubuntu 9.10.   When I have xfce4-power-manager running, it makes the laptop brightness go up and down in steps of 2..... such that I only have 3 brightness settings.     If I kill the xfce power manager then the brightness controls are back to normal (but of course no OSD).   any ideas why this happens ?    gnome-power-manager doesn't have this problem
[19:48] <`mOOse`> guys, how do I pin an app to the status bar?
[19:48] <`mOOse`> or menu bar - whatever you call it
[19:48] <vinnl> `mOOse`, you mean to just have its icon on the panel?
[19:49] <`mOOse`> yea
[19:49] <`mOOse`> you know, like firefox and
[19:49] <vinnl> Right-click an empty part of the panel, select Add new item, then Launcher
[19:49] <`mOOse`> "places" do out of the box
[19:49] <`mOOse`> ok
[19:49] <vinnl> (This will be easier in the next version of the panel)
[19:51] <`mOOse`> I'm wanting to put terminal up there - do I have to add a command to the Command line? Or do I just want to click the Run In Terminal box?
[19:51] <vinnl> No, you want to enter "xfce4-terminal"
[19:51] <`mOOse`> sorry - I know this is pretty elementary
[19:51] <`mOOse`> oh...ok
[19:52] <vinnl> No, it's more complicated than it should be
[19:52] <tvaughn> vinnl: i thought it was too complicated
[19:53] <vinnl> I understand, it is :) Nick Schermer, the developer, has already written the functionality to be able to drag items from e.g. the menu onto the panel, so when the next version of Xfce is released it'll be easier :)
[19:53] <`mOOse`> ok, that puts it on the right side of the bar - any way to coax it over to the left where the other apps are?
[19:53] <vinnl> `mOOse`, right click it, select Move
[19:53] <`mOOse`> I did - it stubbornly ignores me
[19:54] <tvaughn> vinnl: i have another suggestion
[19:55] <tvaughn> add the ability to right click the icons in the application menu and add to panel
[19:55] <tvaughn> gnome does that
[19:55] <`mOOse`> yes
[19:55] <`mOOse`> yes!!
[19:55] <vinnl> `mOOse`, hmm, that's odd... Can you click Move or is it greyed out?
[19:55] <tvaughn> gnomes a piece of crap tho
[19:55] <vinnl> tvaughn, I'm not a developer so I can't make that into reality :) But you could file that against xfce4-panel in Xfce's bug tracker
[19:56] <vinnl> Unfortunately the panel's developer just announced he's taking a break from Xfce development, IIRC
[19:56] <Psilocybin_Elf> Yucky Gnome!
[19:56]  * Psilocybin_Elf agrees that would be a good feature though...
[19:56] <`mOOse`> no, I can click move alright - it greys out the whole bar though
[19:57] <tvaughn> `mOOse`: its supposed to do that
[19:57] <vinnl> Yeah I believe you should be able to drag it after that
[19:57] <tvaughn> brb
[19:58] <`mOOse`> I just clicked the "freely moveable" box in the panel properties and that just made it go crazy - all my apps windows got larger and ocluded the panel somewhat...then when I re-clicked the box it put the panel on the bottom of the screen bar
[19:58] <`mOOse`> now that panel's on the bottom of my screen mixed with my apps icons
[19:58] <`mOOse`> hehe
[19:59] <vinnl> Oh haha
[20:00] <`mOOse`> ack - I can't move it back
[20:00] <vinnl> You have to do that in the panel properties, I suppose
[20:01] <`mOOse`> haha - no - I was trying to move it by using the move function - all I had to do was left-click on it and move it
[20:01] <vinnl> The panel?
[20:01] <`mOOse`> yea
[20:01] <vinnl> Ah cool
[20:02] <`mOOse`> yes, thank gof
[20:02] <`mOOse`> d
[20:02] <`mOOse`> that would have driven me spastic
[20:02] <vinnl> But to make it sit in a fixed position again you'll need the properties, IIRC
[20:02] <`mOOse`> k
[20:03] <`mOOse`> ooohh kaaay...I think I understand now
[20:03] <`mOOse`> there's a panel 1 and panel 2
[20:03] <`mOOse`> they refer to top and bottom?
[20:03] <`mOOse`> yes?
[20:05] <vinnl> Well, there's just two panels named 1 and 2, and one happens to be situated at the top and one at the bottom
[20:05] <vinnl> You could, if you wanted (which you probably don't :P) add some more panels and have multiple panels at the top, for example ;-)
[20:05] <`mOOse`> ok, and they each have different settings choices
[20:05] <vinnl> Yes
[20:05] <`mOOse`> which is confusing me :-)
[20:05] <`mOOse`> now I can't seem to get the top one to stretch across the whole desktop
[20:06] <vinnl> Yeah it's a bit of a power user feature but nice to have, and mostly isn't in the way unless you click it accidentally
[20:06] <`mOOse`> it's just slightly bigger than the icons that are in it
[20:06] <`mOOse`> I don't mind panels! I'd just like to understand their behavior first though :-)
[20:07] <`mOOse`> man I'm really really liking this DE
[20:07] <vinnl> I'm trying to find out what the setting was named to restore that behaviour :)
[20:07] <`mOOse`> after gnome and kde this is such a pleasure
[20:07] <vinnl> Ah, here, you need the drop-down menu next to the selection of the position
[20:07] <`mOOse`> well thanks for it if/when you remember
[20:07] <vinnl> See this screenshot: http://www.23hq.com/Vincentt/photo/2872764
[20:07] <`mOOse`> ok
[20:07] <vinnl> It's the "Full Width" part :)
[20:10] <`mOOse`> whoa... somehow I managed to get the top panel BEHIND the bottom panel!
[20:10] <vinnl> xD
[20:14] <`mOOse`> if I make panel 1 freely moveable I can get it up to the top and stay there, but as soon as I click the fixed position to get to the normal width/full width button, it pops back down to the bottom of the screen again
[20:15] <vinnl> Yeah then you have to select its positions with the button to the left of that drop-down menu, I presume
[20:20] <`mOOse`> sorry - had a drive-by conversation here - yes that worked lol
[20:20] <`mOOse`> thanks
[20:20] <`mOOse`> that never occurred to me
[20:21] <`mOOse`> and that's probably why I can't move that terminal icon because the panel's stretched across the whole top of the screen and it snaps to the left or right depending...
[20:22] <`mOOse`> makes sense, sorta
[20:22] <vinnl> It might also be that the terminal icons is locked :)
[20:22] <vinnl> Right click it to unlock it :)
[20:22] <`mOOse`> hmm
[20:23] <`mOOse`> when I click on it, it just gives me the panel menu
[20:24] <`mOOse`> ok, now I got the launcher
[20:24] <`mOOse`> no choices in there to lock/unlock
[20:24] <vinnl> I believe "Locked" was just an entry in the right-click menu of a launcher
[20:25] <`mOOse`> when I right click on the icon the menu comes up for the panel and the launcher entry is at the top of that menu, but it's greyed out
[20:28] <`mOOse`> I think I'm nuking my xp/win7 dual boot and installing xubuntu and win7 on here
[20:29] <vinnl> Oh OK, then perhaps I'm wrong about any lock functionality
[20:29] <`mOOse`> I can't seem to figure it out (no surprise there)
[22:04] <homebrewcider> Hi there, I have a fresh installation of Xubuntu 9.10. Auto login fails every time and I get taken to a manual login screen. It takes usually between 4 and 8 attempts to login using my user name and password. How can I check the cause of the problem. I'm assuming there's a log somewhere but don't know what to look for.