[00:01] <thc> I figured out my problem it was faulty DVD writer so I burn it right just the DVD reader couldn't read it
[00:02] <thc> Changed the writer now it installing :-)
[00:03] <thc> Thought I would share
[00:03] <Bashing-om> thc: :) where there are solutions, there are no problems .
[00:04] <thc> True
[00:04] <thc> But I been working on it for week now
[00:05] <Bashing-om> thc: Ya feel good now !
[00:06] <thc> Definitely now I can try out some when I can :-)
[00:07] <thc> I was windows person but I like Linux better
[00:08] <codygman_> the program pavucontrol stopped working all of a sudden by hanging on "Establishing connection with pulseaudio" please wait. I opened it in the terminal and see the error "Couldn't connect to accessibility bus". I'm not sure what's changed with my system besides installing hal for amazon instant streaming.
[00:08] <hyperpupp> I like linux but little things can stump me for days on end
[00:08] <Basketball> eeee, you here
[00:09] <hyperpupp> and then it turns out its something simple I missed
[00:09] <thc> I keep at it until its fix
[00:10] <hyperpupp> Ive been doing that.  still stressfull though
[00:12] <netlar> Hi all, I want to prevent my conky widget from disappearing from desktop when I use show desktop.  How can I do that?
[00:14] <Bashing-om>
[00:18] <hyperpupp> Hello can anyone help me.  I set up vsftpd and I can access it from local computers no problems but when I try to use it remotely I get error 530 login incorrect.  Has anyone run into this ?
[00:20] <vemacs> I have a weird problem wih Ubuntu server
[00:20] <vemacs> I currently have a RAID1 setup mounted to /dev/md1
[00:20] <vemacs> here's my parted output: http://i.imgur.com/kga8KvW.png
[00:20] <vemacs> I want to resize it to the available free space
[00:21] <vemacs> when I try resize2fs, I get http://i.imgur.com/ABhCm1u.png
[00:21] <vemacs> but mdadm outputs the RAID array as the right size
[00:21] <vemacs> I just can't resize it
[00:21] <vemacs> Needs to be online because no physical access or recovery :P
[00:21] <netlar> I change the config file to own_window_type override and that does not work
[00:22] <netlar> Do I need to restart something first?
[00:25] <codygman_> Does anyone know why alsa wouldn't have permission to connect to pulse?
[00:25] <Obiwantje> would this chan be OK to ask some basic Bacula Backup System questions?
[00:26] <szymon> q
[00:31] <netlar> Everyting I try does not work
[00:37] <netlar> Well that is something minor anyway
[00:39] <netlar> Just seems like such a simple fix, but everything I have read about making this work, does NOT work
[00:40] <netlar> Well later guys
[00:42] <Mussolini> hi everybody
[00:43] <tank> #ubuntu
[00:45] <Archmstr> hi, why not ona talks?
[00:46] <Archmstr> hi dudes!
[00:46] <Archmstr> omg
[00:46] <pocz123> Hi!
[00:46] <Archmstr> hi!
[00:46] <Archmstr> are you buzy?
[00:46] <somsip> !ask | Archmstr
[00:47] <Archmstr> mm!
[00:47] <Archmstr> have you try archlinux?
[00:47] <somsip> Archmstr: this is the ubuntu support channel. Talk about Arch linux is off topic
[00:47] <Archmstr> yes men! this is my cuestion!
[00:48] <Archmstr> have you try archlinux?
[00:48] <somsip> Archmstr: then it's off topic and does not belong here. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or the #archlinux channel
[00:48] <Archmstr> someone?
[00:48] <Archmstr> mm! ok
[00:48] <Archmstr> thx!
[00:48] <bish0p_> I updated to 14.04 today, and now Unity shows no taskbars when I boot. I can restart lightdm and that will bring them up, but the next time I turn my computer on they're gone again.
[00:49] <Archmstr> good look everyone!
[00:49] <bish0p_> Do I have to revert to my previous version of Ubuntu?
[00:50] <shout-user38> https://chaturbate.com/dawnwillow/  cheap tokens for everyone :3
[00:50] <somsip> bish0p_: I know it's difficult/impossible to revert version upgrades but know nothing about unity so can't help further
[00:50] <somsip> shout-user38: take the spam elsewhere.  Might end up reinstalling ubuntu then, if I can't get this fixed.
[00:52] <somsip> bish0p_: if it's an easy option, go for it. Especially if you upgraded previously which *can* be problematic but is usually okay for most users. But on the unity front, keep asking now and then as there may be a simple fix I don't know about
[00:52] <cimmm1> TJ- we're on our way to another one... And I guess for anyone: Reinstalled and nouveau got me triple-head with 2 on dgpu and 1 on igpu, installed nvidia-331 and igpu monitor is at the logo + 5 bubbles full (last image before start completes). Xorg.0.log showing no errors AND detects both dgpu+igpu and each of the monitors. How do I get that third one (igpu) up?
[00:53] <st0_> bish0p after update .. apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop, apt-get install unity
[00:54] <bish0p_> st0_, can I do that from the terminal, or do I need to TTY
[00:54] <st0_> bish0p on terminal
[00:54] <bish0p_> st0_, alright, I'll try that.
[00:56] <bish0p_> St0_, it says unity is already installed
[00:57] <pocz123> Hi! How can I block the fork bomb on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[00:57] <pocz123> I mean :(){ :|:& };:
[00:59] <st0_> bish0p_: renstall ubuntu-desktop finished?
[00:59] <bish0p_> yep!
[00:59] <DaZ> pocz123: i'd say ulimit
[00:59] <st0_> bish0p_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity <- reinstall the unity
[01:00] <bish0p_> st0_, alright
[01:00] <Mussolini> How a execute one script just with the name ?
[01:01] <somsip> Mussolini: ./script_name
[01:01] <Mussolini> how can i execute one script just with the name ?
[01:01] <bish0p_> st0_, done. restart?
[01:01] <Mussolini> somsip: without "./"
[01:01] <Mussolini> just the name
[01:02] <somsip> Mussolini: you need a path unless the script is in $PATH
[01:03] <pocz123> DaZ: Thanks. I will read about ulimit.
[01:05] <st0_> bish0p_: yep
[01:05] <Mussolini> somsip: for example, i created one script withe the name "test" on /home/user, and i wanna the script execute, when a write just "test"
[01:06] <Mussolini> with*
[01:07] <spearhead> Mussolini, it is more common to put the scripts you write in a /home/user/bin directory but wherever you have the script you need to add that directory to your $PATH variable
[01:07] <spearhead> !path | Mussolini
[01:08] <Mussolini> spearhead: tk's a lot
[01:08] <spearhead> Mussolini, np
[01:09] <bish0p_> st0_, nothing changed :\
[01:11] <cimmm1> I just reinstalled after having nvidia driver issues, Nouveau had triple head setup working, but after installing nvidia-331 I'm down to just the 2 monitors on the dgpu, and my monitor on igpu sits at a finished loading screen, isnt recognized in nvidia-settings or pre-installed gnome "Displays". Xorg.0.log has no errors and detects both devices and all 3 monitors. How can I get the monitor on intel igpu up while still using nvidia drivers
[01:12] <spearhead> bish0p_, This question on askubuntu has 3 different options to try. I would start with the first one and see if it works, if not try the second... http://askubuntu.com/questions/468204/no-panels-or-menus-after-upgrading-to-14-04
[01:12] <st0_> bish0p_: read my PM
[01:14] <bish0p_> spearhead, I'll try these, thanks
[01:17] <Mussolini> Tnk's all
[01:25] <bish0p_> update: apparently unity is just having issues with 14.04, and I installed it without realizing it's not the stable release. I'll see if I can deal with restarting lightdm every time I log on for a bit while they fix it, and if I can't I'll reinstall 13.14 or whatever
[01:25] <bish0p_> thanks for all your help guys
[01:27] <eeee> bish0p_: did you try to remove the config files?
[01:28] <eeee> bish0p_: if you start the pc using the guest session, does the task bar appear?
[01:28] <frezix> hi, I wanted to download warsow but I got super confused by their site: http://www.warsow.net/download here it just says for 14.04 while I have 12.04, but on this page it's an older version of warsow - http://www.warsow.net/download/ubuntu_precise
[01:29] <frezix> so which one should I install? will the older 102 version work with seeing servers for that version of 14.04?
[01:29] <bish0p_> eeee, no, and it takes a bit to switch to the guest, then blackscreens trying to switch back. taskbar DOES come up
[01:30] <eeee> bish0p_: try dconf -reset -f /org/compiz
[01:30] <bish0p_> eeee, alright
[01:30] <eeee> bish0p_: then type setsid unity
[01:31] <bish0p_> eeee, restart now?
[01:31] <eeee> did the task bar appear when you typed setsid unity?
[01:32] <bish0p_> yes
[01:32] <elky> frezix: you'll probably have to contact them directly if nobody here has used it (i haven't, and it's not in the repositories). they have a forum on that website
[01:32] <eeee> well, give it a shot
[01:32] <bish0p_> alright
[01:33] <elky> frezix: http://www.warsow.net/about/community lists an irc channel on another network too
[01:33] <rainbowwarrior> hello , my dvd drive has installed a broken Ubuntu 14.4.1 installation , is there a command in the terminal i could use to fix it please ?
[01:33] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: broken how?
[01:33] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: did you checksum the iso?
[01:34] <rainbowwarrior> eeee : i can not install software as it just sits there doing nothing
[01:35] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: you might need to enable the repository, what software are you trying to install?
[01:35] <rainbowwarrior> eeee: and it don't matter what software i choose , nothing works
[01:36] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: try apt-get from the command line if you're using software-center
[01:36] <eeee> it should give some info about what's going on
[01:37] <frezix> elky: thx I'll try and connect there :)
[01:37] <rainbowwarrior> ok ty, what i was hoping to do, was copy the files from my usb flash and overwrite the files in / as i though that would fix it ?
[01:38] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: if you think the installation is broken, i'd checksum the iso first
[01:38] <rainbowwarrior> eeee: ok ty
[01:38] <eeee> and don't copy no
[01:38] <bish0p_> eeee, no change :/ I'll just cope with it
[01:38] <rainbowwarrior> ok
[01:38] <rainbowwarrior> brb
[01:38] <eeee> bish0p_: try rm -rf ~/.compiz ~/.config/compiz-1 && mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf.backup
[01:40] <bish0p_> eeee, should I get a response from my terminal? and then restart?
[01:40] <eeee> you shouldn't get any errors
[01:41] <eeee> and then restart
[01:41] <bish0p_> eeee, I didn't get anything, I didn't know if it went through or not haha
[01:41] <bish0p_> restarting now
[01:44] <rainbowwarrior> eeee : well apt-get gave me no errors , but im starting to think the software center etc is brke
[01:44] <rainbowwarrior> broke *
[01:44] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: did you checksum the iso?
[01:44] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: gave you no errors, and worked?
[01:45] <rainbowwarrior> no eeee: no errors but don't work
[01:45] <bish0p_> eeee, nope
[01:45] <eeee> what command did you run?
[01:46] <rainbowwarrior> sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:46] <eeee> and it just returned, with no errors?
[01:46] <eeee> i mean, it didn't do anything?
[01:46] <eeee> bish0p_: i guess you could try to reinstall lightdm, maybe who knows,
[01:46] <misterTom> Hey guys, remember me?
[01:47] <bish0p_> eeee, hell, I might just reinstall a version below me, that had no issues
[01:47] <bish0p_> I'm p sure it's 14.04 having beta issues
[01:47] <rainbowwarrior> eeee: it downloaded some files, unpacked them, then setting up then finished
[01:47] <eeee> ( sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm )
[01:47] <doc-saintly> Hello - I had a Ubuntu Server 14 VM in Azure cloud, I did an apt-get upgrade then a restart, and now I"m locked out of the SSH. I checked the SSH config and it seems OK. What else should I check? I have access to the disk image file
[01:47] <misterTom> Whether you remember me or not I got Linux installed on my Chromebook thanks to you guys!
[01:47] <misterTom> I'm in your debt.
[01:47] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: ok, so it worked?
[01:49] <rainbowwarrior> eeee: well it downloaded the files etc fine but when i run it, it don't work properly
[01:49] <rainbowwarrior> and i know its not xchat as it works fine on another laptop and same uubntu version etc
[01:49] <rainbowwarrior> brb
[01:52] <spearhead> doc-saintly, what error are you getting when you try to ssh?
[01:53] <cimmm1> Need help getting 3rd monitor running. Nouveau worked fine, after install nvidia-331 only nvidia works, not the intel. Everything I read online references bumblebee, but I'm not on a laptop. How can I get that third monitor up and keep nvidia drivers?
[01:53] <misterTom> Has anyone tried Steam in-home streaming?
[01:54] <rainbowwarrior> back
[01:57] <kcj[work]> Having trouble with multiple monitors. 2 cards, 3 monitors. Nvidia.
[01:58] <doc-saintly> spearhead: connection refused
[01:58] <spearhead> doc-saintly, any idea what was updated? could be a firewall problem or a sshd problem
[01:59] <doc-saintly> spearhead: I didn't change any network configuration, just an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, shutdown -r
[02:01] <spearhead> doc-saintly, have you been using this server for a while? and I am assuming since you checked the config file you still have access to the machine?
[02:01] <misterTom> Quick question: Can I disable the firewall in Ubuntu?
[02:02] <misterTom> I heard that it's built into the kernel or something.
[02:02] <doc-saintly> spearhead: yea, it's been up for maybe 3 weeks. I looked at the config and didn't see anything too crazy
[02:02] <eeee> misterTom: no
[02:02] <eeee> misterTom: there's no firewall
[02:02] <misterTom> eeee, I'
[02:02] <misterTom> am having trouble finding a host computer on the same network.
[02:02] <misterTom> Host can find the Ubuntu client, client can't find the host.
[02:04] <spearhead> doc-saintly, can you use pastebin to show the output of sudo iptables -L
[02:04] <doc-saintly> spearhead: unfortunately not. The VM is not longer running - thanks to the lovely Azure cloud I had to disable the machine to gain access to the disk image.
[02:05] <doc-saintly> so, all I can do is look at / edit files and then re-attach the disk and give it a try
[02:05] <doc-saintly> I just double-checked the SSH config against my current one on this machine and it's identical.
[02:06] <doc-saintly> spearhead: is there another way to get the information I'd need?
[02:08] <spearhead> doc-saintly, since the config files are the same the only thing I can think of that wouldn't allow you to connect would be a firewall blocking access to port 22
[02:08] <doc-saintly> spearhead: because that message indicates the connection is being forcefully rejected - coorect?
[02:08] <doc-saintly> correct*
[02:09] <spearhead> doc-saintly, yes, let me run a quick check...
[02:09] <Crackz0r> Hello
[02:10] <Crackz0r> I have Ubuntu Desktop... and i would like to have my own local server to test with
[02:10] <Crackz0r> With ubuntu server
[02:10] <Crackz0r> How can achieve that...
[02:10] <Crackz0r> ?
[02:11] <doc-saintly> Crackz0r: as in web server?
[02:11] <eeee> Crackz0r: do you mean you want a web server ( apache2 ) or to run ssh ?
[02:14] <Crackz0r> Well actually i'm using win 7 as my OS
[02:14] <spearhead> doc-saintly, interestingly, when I disable port 22 and try to ssh in to my server it just hangs, it doesn't throw an error or anything... can you pastebin the sshd_config file?
[02:14] <Crackz0r> And i have Ubuntu 14.04 running over VirtualBox
[02:14] <Crackz0r> But i want to move to Ubuntu Desktop
[02:14] <Crackz0r> As my OS
[02:14] <doc-saintly> spearhead: sure, /etc/ssh/ssh_config ?
[02:15] <spearhead> doc-saintly, no, /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:15] <Crackz0r> And keep using ubuntu server as my development server
[02:15] <Crackz0r> Do you follow me ?
[02:15] <Crackz0r> :)
[02:17] <misterTom> I just ran "sudo apt-get install iptables" How can I undo what I have just done?
[02:18] <spearhead> misterTom, sudo apt-get purge iptables
[02:18] <spearhead> misterTom, but iptables should be preinstalled
[02:19] <spearhead> misterTom, I wouldn't remove it
[02:19] <misterTom> I'm having local network connectivity issues.
[02:19] <misterTom> Thank you thohugh, spearhead.
[02:21] <spearhead> misterTom, if you want to check your iptables to make sure nothing is interfering with the port you want to use run sudo iptables -L and make sure this line is first "Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)"
[02:21] <misterTom> spearhead, you're a great help! I'll give that a shot as soon as I figure out how to terminate an unresponsive process.]
[02:21] <doc-saintly> spearhead: it'll take me a few minutes, don't know how to copy out from SSH and dinner's ready
[02:22] <misterTom> Any hints?
[02:22] <spearhead> !pastebin > spearhead
[02:23] <spearhead> !pastebinit | doc-saintly
[02:24] <doc-saintly> spearhead: ah cool, thanks :) will report back soon
[02:24] <spearhead> misterTom, that depends on the process
[02:26] <misterTom> spearhead: "iptables not found"
[02:26] <misterTom> or more accurately "iptables: command not found"
[02:26] <Marce34> hi
[02:26] <Marce34> alguien desde Argentina?
[02:27] <spearhead> misterTom, did you run the purge command I said? if so then you need to reinstall iptables
[02:27] <spearhead> !ar | Marce34
[02:27] <misterTom> spearhead, Yeah, I'm starting to understand what I am doing a bit now... Second night with Linux.
[02:27] <misterTom> spearhead, I'm not going to reinstall iptables just yet. I want to fix my home networking first.
[02:28] <Bashing-om> misterTom: -> dpkg -l iptables ;;ii  iptables       1.4.21-1ubun amd64        administration tools for packet f .
[02:28] <misterTom> spearhead, I'm trying to get Steam in-home streaming working right now but my Windows host can see the Linux client and the client is blind to anything else.
[02:28] <misterTom> What do?
[02:29] <spearhead> misterTom, iptables doesn't actually do anything to your networking, it just allows you to edit the firewall table in the kernel
[02:29] <Marce34> okay
[02:29] <misterTom> spearhead: Reinstalling now, then.
[02:29] <misterTom> Bashing-om, what does that do?
[02:30] <Bashing-om> misterTom: All that is is to see if iptables is installed and it state (ii) installed/installed .. the other is what you should see.
[02:31] <misterTom> Bashing-om, spearhead: I should run "sudo apt-get install iptables" again?
[02:32] <Bashing-om> misterTom: I would suggest you run -> dpkg -l iptables <- to see what state iptables is in, to see what should be done.
[02:33] <spearhead> misterTom, I second that ^
[02:33] <misterTom> Not/Inst?
[02:33] <misterTom> Not installed, right?
[02:35] <spearhead> if the last line of that command outputs un iptables ....... then you should install it
[02:35] <Bashing-om> misterTom: What letter combo do you have in that 1st column .
[02:36] <misterTom> Bashing-om, What am I looking for, exactly?
[02:36] <Bashing-om> misterTom: the letters directly under +++-
[02:36] <misterTom> "un"
[02:38] <Bashing-om> misterTom: yes, then the status is "unknown" and "not installed" should now be good to apt-get install it, see what results.
[02:41] <headkase> Is there any method to compile code from source and end up with a .deb package?  Eg. when I type "make install" have that command go into something that generates a .deb so I can easily uninstall it later?
[02:43] <somsip> !packaging | headkase
[02:43] <headkase> It doesn't matter if it tracks dependencies, I can do that, just that it ends up being a package so I can purge it and leave no trace if I have to.
[02:44] <headkase> thanks somsip that is somewhere for me to start! ;)
[02:45] <misterTom> Ok, it's reinstalled.
[02:46] <NotreDev> ccrypt can apparently be used as a filter. does that mean i can write directly to it, or should i write to a pipe, and have ccrypt read from the pipe?
[02:46] <misterTom> Still can't find my Linux laptop on my home network.
[02:48] <spearhead> misterTom, so, if I am understanding you correctly you have a windows computer which is running a steam streaming host and a linux computer running a steam streaming client and the client on the linux machine cannot see the host on the windows machine?
[02:48] <misterTom> spearhead, exactly, yes!
[02:49] <misterTom> spearhead, are you at all familiar with in homes treaming?
[02:49] <misterTom> *streaming
[02:49] <leadZERO> I'm expanding a hardware RAID on an adaptec card. How do I have Linux probe for the larger capacity?
[02:49] <spearhead> misterTom, I have not dealt with in-home streaming... but this sounds like a windows issue. what version of windows are you running?
[02:49] <leadZERO> (on ubuntu server 14.04)
[02:50] <misterTom> Windows 8. -_-
[02:51] <_unreal_> cant see the host or doesnt support the game
[02:51] <misterTom> spearhead, Here's what I see in Steam. http://i.imgur.com/HS1IAky.png
[02:51] <spearhead> misterTom, I'm sorry but I have absolutely no experience with windows 8. I jumped off that bandwaggon for good whe. 7 came out...
[02:51] <daniel_> fim
[02:51] <misterTom> localhost is the name of my linux client since I didn't rename it, right?
[02:52] <misterTom> spearhead, the image I linked (http://i.imgur.com/HS1IAky.png) is from my Windows desktop.
[02:52] <misterTom> If I'm not mistaken that means that my desktop sees the client but the client won't connect, right?
[02:53] <_unreal_> localhost when it comes to games typically means the computer you are on
[02:53] <_unreal_> meaning self hosting
[02:53] <spearhead> misterTom, localhost is always the computer you are on.
[02:53] <misterTom> ...oh.
[02:53] <_unreal_> spearhead, takes me back to my good old quake days
[02:54] <_unreal_> heck doom
[02:54] <_unreal_> doom2 and direct dialup
[02:54] <_unreal_> hours of tied up phone lines :)
[02:54] <redco01> sup
[02:55] <_unreal_> per
[02:55] <redco01> any louisiana?
[02:56] <somsip> !ot | redco01
[02:56] <_unreal_> misterTom, I think the first thing to do is insure your able to view a steam network source but really this is topic for #steam
[02:57] <_unreal_> sorry #steamos
[02:57] <misterTom> _unreal_: yeah, you might be right.
[02:57] <_unreal_> redco01, florida
[02:57] <redco01> cool
[02:57] <_unreal_> misterTom, on which part?
[02:58] <redco01> i just finished a cylon linux install
[02:58] <somsip> _unreal_: please take the off topic chat elsewhere. This is not the place
[02:58] <misterTom> _unreal_: Everything? :P
[02:58] <misterTom> _unreal_: It might be better directed at #steamos
[02:59] <redco01> any one have any good distros
[03:00] <redco01> i like anthing debian/ubuntu based
[03:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[03:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> I got a tunnel account from HE
[03:00] <redco01> damn ISS feed keeps cutting out
[03:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> I added it using the instructions here: http://blog.iphoting.com/blog/2012/06/02/ipv6-on-amazon-aws-ec2/
[03:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> but, I still can't connect to the ipv6 world
[03:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> when I ping6 google, I get icmp_seq=1 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable
[03:00] <_unreal_> somsip, please read making claims, I just finished suggesting a redirection for his questions. dont blame me.
[03:01] <redco01> have u enabled ipv6?
[03:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> redco01, how do I check?
[03:01] <redco01> system settings, what OS u in?
[03:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> ubuntu server
[03:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> so command line only
[03:02] <redco01> http://www.hpc.mil/index.php/2013-08-29-16-03-23/networking-overview/2013-10-03-17-24-38/ipv6-knowledge-base-ip-transport/enabling-ipv6-in-debian-and-ubuntu-linux
[03:02] <_unreal_> MDTech-us_MAN, do you have an ip address?
[03:02] <_unreal_> or are you on the computer that your having issues with?
[03:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> _unreal_ what you mean?
[03:02] <misterTom> _unreal_: Can I check to see what machines are connected to my local network in Linux?
[03:02] <misterTom> Well, I bet I can. The question is how?
[03:03] <MDTech-us_MAN> _unreal_, it has a static IP
[03:03] <redco01> i prefer open suse for my server
[03:03] <_unreal_> yes you can and I dont know the command off the top of my head, its was an: arp command I beleive with a few switches and a semi ip address to scan
[03:03] <_unreal_> MDTech-us_MAN, are you on the computer you are having issues with or is it a remote server that you are trying to access?
[03:04] <redco01> open suse is just what we used in college so i am familier
[03:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> its remote server that I can SSH to
[03:04] <_unreal_> are you ssh'ed into it right now?
[03:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> _unreal_, yes
[03:04] <_unreal_> ok.
[03:04] <redco01> have u tried suse unreal?
[03:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> ummm
[03:05] <spearhead> !offtopic | redco01
[03:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> lsmod |grep ipv6 returns nothing
[03:05] <_unreal_> MDTech-us_MAN, why do you want ipv6?
[03:05] <redco01> lol sorry uno
[03:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> its a server and I want it to be IPv6 ready
[03:05] <spearhead> MDTech-us_MAN, you can check to see if you have an ipv6 address by running "ifconfig | grep inet6"
[03:05] <misterTom> _unreal_: When I try to brose my network via "Files" it times out.
[03:06] <redco01> ubuntu was my first she will always be special lol
[03:06] <MDTech-us_MAN> spearhead, it does show my IPv6 IP that I got from the tunnel
[03:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> also has ::1/128 which is the loopback
[03:08] <_unreal_> when it comes to ipv6 I dont have a lot of experience with it. so I dont think there is much I can help with on it.
[03:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> :(
[03:09] <spearhead> I wonder if there is some router in the way that is not setup for ipv6
[03:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> its a tunnel
[03:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> and its SUPPOSED to work
[03:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> uggg
[03:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> why does it work for everyone but me. :|
[03:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://blog.iphoting.com/blog/2012/06/02/ipv6-on-amazon-aws-ec2/
[03:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> as it seems, it works for the 99.9% of ppl
[03:10] <_unreal_> as I understand it ipv6 should work threw your current router. most likely it is going to be a settings issue on the server
[03:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> noooo
[03:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> it uses a TUNNEL
[03:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> not the router
[03:11] <_unreal_> regardless ipv6 wont become main stream till prob 2018-2020
[03:11] <spearhead> well it doesn't work for me... but I haven't tried it... like _unreal_ I have almost no experience with ipv6 but it sounds like it is a configuration error... I might try running through the tutorial again, see if you made a mistake somewhere.
[03:11] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: Can you "pastebinit < <(ip link show && ip addr show && ip route show )" ?
[03:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8295897/
[03:13] <misterTom> What is YaST?
[03:13] <squinty> an off topic for this channel?
[03:14] <somsip> squinty: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:14] <squinty> someone,  thanks but was refering to misterTom's comment.  ;-)
[03:14] <misterTom> Whenever I try to look at the network I get "The system network services are not compatible with this version."
[03:15] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: I forgot one :) "pastebinit < <(ip -6 route show)"
[03:15] <misterTom> Sorry, I don't even really know the right questions to ask about yet.
[03:15] <_unreal_> ahhh I figured it out
[03:15] <_unreal_> nmap -sP 192.168.x.*
[03:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8295924/
[03:16] <_unreal_> misterTom, that right there : nmap -sP 192.168.x.*    replace the x with your current home network ip setup 0 or 1 etc.....
[03:16] <_unreal_> that will list all of the ip address on your local network
[03:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> never knew about the pastebinit command before
[03:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> thx
[03:17] <spearhead> _unreal_, i forget what -sP does but I always run with -sV to get version info...
[03:17] <misterTom> How do I find my home network ip?
[03:17] <misterTom> Can I do so through Windows with "ipconfig"
[03:17] <spearhead> misterTom, yes or through linux with ifconfig
[03:18] <squinty> ifconfig
[03:18] <_unreal_> hehe misterTom if what ever computer you are on just look at your ip address
[03:18] <doc-saintly> spearhead: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8295937/
[03:18] <misterTom> Default Gateway?
[03:18] <_unreal_> misterTom, are you on windblows or linux currently?
[03:18] <misterTom> Both?
[03:19] <misterTom> Two computers going on.
[03:19] <_unreal_> ok then on the linux one: sudo ifconfig
[03:20] <_unreal_> then when you know what your network is setup like: nmap -sP 192.168.x.*                  its going to be 192.168.0 or 1.*
[03:20] <misterTom> I'm illiterate.
[03:20] <squinty> may have to install nmap
[03:20] <misterTom> Where can I find that?
[03:20] <misterTom> inet addr?
[03:20] <_unreal_> same thing
[03:20] <spearhead> doc-saintly, I don't see anything there that would refuse a connection... my other thought is maybe ssh isn't getting started on boot...
[03:21] <doc-saintly> spearhead: which init should I look in for that?
[03:21] <_unreal_> you type rather well for an illiterate
[03:21] <misterTom> Infinite monkies...
[03:21] <squinty> heh
[03:21] <_unreal_> ok are you sshed into the linux machine on the windows?
[03:21] <_unreal_> what computer are you sitting in front of a linux one or a windows one?
[03:21] <misterTom> Both.
[03:22] <misterTom> I have this chat window on Windows.
[03:22] <_unreal_> ok....
[03:22] <doc-saintly> misterTom: didn't you say one was a VM?
[03:22] <_unreal_> then on the linux computer have open your console if not already, and type: sudo ifconfig
[03:22] <misterTom> ^^^ did that much at least.
[03:22] <misterTom> *Not on VM, btw.
[03:23] <_unreal_> ok did you get a list of data return?
[03:23] <misterTom> Am I looking for the inet addr?
[03:23] <_unreal_> inet
[03:23] <_unreal_> inet 192.168.
[03:23] <misterTom> Ok, I got two output thingies though.
[03:23] <misterTom> Oh, ok.
[03:23] <misterTom> Got it.
[03:24] <_unreal_> 2 outputs one lo and one eth0?
[03:24] <misterTom> lo and wlan0
[03:24] <_unreal_> ok what is your ip?
[03:24] <misterTom> dunt hak me pls
[03:24] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: So far all that looks good
[03:25] <MDTech-us_MAN> i'll try rebooting
[03:25] <misterTom> I found the IP for wlan0
[03:25] <_unreal_> misterTom, your on a home network behind a router your current ip is a privet network ip.
[03:25] <_unreal_> good what is it
[03:25] <_unreal_> 192.168......
[03:25] <misterTom> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:25] <_unreal_> ?
[03:25] <_unreal_> heheh 100 was not expecting that
[03:26] <_unreal_> ok so then misterTom : nmap -sP 192.168.100.*
[03:26] <_unreal_> or: sudo nmap -sP 192.168.100.* and that will return all the devices on your network
[03:27] <misterTom> That's not right?>
[03:27] <_unreal_> ?
[03:27] <spearhead> doc-saintly, look in /etc/rc2.d to see if there is a file named Sxxsshd where xx is some number
[03:27] <_unreal_> you can a no command found error?
[03:27] <_unreal_> get
[03:28] <misterTom> "nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>*" right?
[03:28] <doc-saintly> spearhead: will do, sec.
[03:28] <_unreal_> misterTom, copy and paste what I posted
[03:29] <_unreal_> may or may not need sudo:           nmap -sP 192.168.100.*                      and no adding 131 is worng because your giving the full address, you want the computer to search the network for all of the ip addreses which are 192.168.100.xxx      0-255
[03:30] <_unreal_> so if you leave out the last set of numbers and put the star. then it searches for ALL 0-255
[03:30] <_unreal_> where as if you put your personal ip its just going to search your personal ip because thats what you told it to do. and the star you added at the end should give a syntex error
[03:30] <_unreal_> spearhead, help my insanity
[03:31] <somsip> !info apache2-dbg
[03:32] <MDTech-us_MAN> _TJ_ ehhh still will not work
[03:32] <misterTom> _unreal_?
[03:32] <misterTom> Did I goof?
[03:33] <spearhead> misterTom, run the command "nmap -sP 192.168.100.*" exactly as I typed it.
[03:33] <_unreal_> misterTom, last time, copy and paste this on the linux computer. and you may or may not need (sudo) at the start: nmap -sP 192.168.100.*
[03:34] <_unreal_> That will return all the possible ip addresses on your network. unless its setup with multi levels of ip addressing
[03:34] <_unreal_> and by possible I mean active registered ip addresses
[03:37] <mister_Tom> Uh, hey?
[03:37] <mister_Tom> No idea what happened there.
[03:37] <mister_Tom> "nmap -sP 192.168.x."
[03:37] <spearhead> nmap -sP 192.168.100.*
[03:38] <mister_Tom> I have to install nmap though?
[03:38] <spearhead> yes you need to install nmap
[03:38] <spearhead> sudo apt-get install nmap --assume-yes
[03:38] <mister_Tom> apt-get install nmap?
[03:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> O.O
[03:38] <mister_Tom> IS there anyway.
[03:39] <mister_Tom> What happened?!
[03:39] <doc-saintly> spearhead: no sshd file in there, could it be in another rc folder?
[03:40] <spearhead> doc-saintly, apparently not, I just checked my server and it isn't in any of them... you don't have any access to this server except through ssh do you?
[03:40] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: I think I've got it, are you able to make some changes?
[03:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> yes
[03:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> _TJ_
[03:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> wtf?
[03:40] <doc-saintly> spearhead: nope :(
[03:41] <doc-saintly> would any of the log files help?
[03:41] <MDTech-us_MAN> _TJ_, You still here?
[03:41] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: The ipv6 default route is set to the Ethernet device; that needs making more specific, to include a "via <IPv6-of-the-HE-gateway>"
[03:41] <spearhead> doc-saintly, when it is running I mean.
[03:41] <MisTom> Ok, I ran the nmap thing. Now what?
[03:41] <MDTech-us_MAN> _TJ_, so how would I accomplish this?
[03:42] <munchyma2esh> guys ubuntu not showing wireless card help help pleaes ?????
[03:42] <MisTom> I went to browse network and I can see "Windows Network" but when I try to access it I get "Unable to access location"
[03:42] <doc-saintly> spearhead: no, I don't. this is hosted on the cloud so the only way I can get to it (that I know of) was the previous ssh connection
[03:43] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: I'm trying to figure out which IPv6 that would be; I suspect it is "2001:470:4:a4c::2" from the "he-ipv6" interface
[03:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> IT WORKS!!!!!
[03:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> YAHOOOOOOOO
[03:43] <MisTom> spearhead, _unreal_: I went to browse network and I can see "Windows Network" but when I try to access it I get "Unable to access location"
[03:43] <_TJ_> MDTech-us_MAN: So, lets try "sudo ip -6 route del default" then "sudo ip -6 route add default dev he-ipv6 via 2001:470:4:a4c::2"
[03:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> seems like that guide wasn't ubuntu specific or something
[03:44] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://samsclass.info/ipv6/proj/pHE1A-Tunnel.htm works
[03:44] <munchyma2esh> guys help ....
[03:44] <lyar> ching ling
[03:47] <lyar> hello
[03:48] <spearhead> doc-saintly, check and make sure /etc/init.d/ssh is there and if it is can you pastebinit its contents
[03:49] <misterTom> Last time spamming this then!: spearhead, _unreal_: I went to browse network and I can see "Windows Network" but when I try to access it I get "Unable to access location"
[03:49] <lyar> YES
[03:50] <spearhead> misterTom, I don't have a clue what the problem is. I think it is something with steam, I would try and find help at #steamos
[03:50] <misterTom> At this point I'm just trying to connect my Linux laptop to the rest of the home network.
[03:51] <lyar> no no
[03:51] <doc-saintly> spearhead: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8296132/
[03:52] <doc-saintly> oh wait, that's the tail, sec.
[03:52] <lyar> messi ow noob
[03:52] <doc-saintly> spearhead: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8296134/
[03:52] <misterTom> I have to go to bed now though.
[03:54] <misterTom> I have to go to bed now but thank you so much for all your help tonight guys!
[03:55] <misterTom> You have saintly patience.
[03:55] <misterTom> One day I'll get myself on my feet.
[03:55] <spearhead> doc-saintly, and what are the permissions on /etc/init.d/ssh?
[03:55] <misterTom> Maybe I'll be able to pay it forward one day.
[03:56] <misterTom> spearhead, I am going to smile at everyone I see tomorrow because of you.
[03:56] <misterTom> Faith in humanity +1
[03:56] <misterTom> Night, all.
[03:56] <spearhead> misterTom, from what I know of steam on ubuntu is it is still very new and probably still has bugs
[03:58] <doc-saintly> spearhead: -rwxr-xr-x
[04:00] <spearhead> doc-saintly, ok, then it should be starting just fine... can you try booting it back up and trying it again but add the -v tag to your ssh command
[04:02] <themusicgod1> i have a bug in libreoffice, which is presumably somewhat close to some git checkout from the official repo ... I go to the official repo and the bug is not there.  Is there any way to find what checkout they pulled to make the package so that I can bisect around there in the original repo to see if the bug is there?
[04:03] <themusicgod1> or should I just wait until they pull a new checkout in utopic(easier)
[04:04] <doc-saintly> spearhead: ssh: connect to host triforce.cloudapp.net port 22: Connection refused
[04:04] <doc-saintly> even trying it on the regular port now just to make sure everything is OK
[04:07] <spearhead> doc-saintly, you you have anything else running on the server such as a web server?
[04:08] <doc-saintly> spearhead: yes, but it's not running either.
[04:08] <doc-saintly> spearhead: I just compared the ssh and sshd_config files to another working VM in the same cloud provider, and they're the exact same
[04:10] <spearhead> doc-saintly, if the web server is not running either it sounds like the server isn't actually booting. You might want to contact the cloud provider.
[04:12] <doc-saintly> spearhead: yea, i'm writing them a request now... and they have crappy support ~.~ ugh. cloud sucks.
[04:13] <spearhead> doc-saintly, yeah, I have a couple servers running at home on old hardware and much prefer it to any cloud service I have tried... at least I can plug a monitor and keyboard into it if need be.
[04:15] <kudakwashe> i'm using ubuntu from zimbabwe, in the language support settings -> Regional Format, it shows the currency as the Zimbabwe Dollar ( http://i.imgur.com/UvLZaup.png ) though in Zimbabwe our official currency has been the United States Dollar since 2009
[04:15] <kudakwashe> i've posted a window screen shot of it
[04:15] <kudakwashe> there isn't anyone in ubuntu-zw
[04:16] <kudakwashe> sorry, #ubuntu-zw
[04:16] <_TJ_> kudakwashe: Report a bug against the zw locale
[04:16] <kudakwashe> _TJ_: how do i do that
[04:17] <themusicgod1> kudakwashe: run ubuntu-bug?
[04:17] <kudakwashe> themusicgod1: okay thanks, is the questioni mark sarcasm?
[04:18] <themusicgod1> I'm not sure it's entirely what you're looking for
[04:18] <themusicgod1> you can use ubuntu-bug to report bugs on packages
[04:18] <themusicgod1> but I'm not sure if it'll walk you to locale bugs
[04:18] <kudakwashe> themusicgod1: okay, thanks :-)
[04:19] <doc-saintly> spearhead: thanks for your time... I think i'll abandon this cloud provider before I pay $30 to get support on something that I should have more options for myself.
[04:20] <spearhead> doc-saintly, sorry I couldn't have been more help.
[04:21] <_TJ_> kudakwashe: I'm trying to locate the package to report it against
[04:21] <kudakwashe> _TJ_: thanks
[04:22] <kudakwashe> _TJ_: i'll be back in about half an hour, hope you're still here, thanks for your help
[04:22] <doc-saintly> np, the help is still appreciated :)
[04:28] <doc-saintly> what is fmsascon and bgp? I find those running on nmap (179 / 16001)
[04:33] <spearhead> apparently fmsascon is and Administration Server Connector... don't ask me what that means. and bgp is boarder gateway protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol
[04:34] <doc-saintly> spearhead: when I try to ssh into 16001 I get ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[04:35] <spearhead> doc-saintly, i don't know what to tell you... but I should probably head to bed...
[04:36] <doc-saintly> ok, thanks again :)
[04:36] <_TJ_> doc-saintly: are you sure the connection is terminating on the host you think it is?
[04:37] <doc-saintly> _TJ_ pretty sure. i started trying to connect to that server from a differetn VM and it gets refused to
[04:37] <tsimpson> doc-saintly: I suggest you look at the output of "sudo netstat -lnp" if you want to see what processes are listening on what ports
[04:37] <doc-saintly> and that's within the cloud, so
[04:37] <doc-saintly> tsimpson: I have no physical access to the machine I can't ssh into, I can only look at an image of the disk
[04:38] <twain> anyone have a suggestion on usinga usb to serial port emulator
[04:38] <twain> i have  usb device  i need to reconize as a com port
[04:38] <_TJ_> doc-saintly: So, you've looked at the firewall rules being loaded? checked for firewall log entries?
[04:39] <doc-saintly> _TJ_ nope, don't know how to do that
[04:39]  * TJ- has returned to regular nickname
[04:40] <ObrienDave> twain, not sure how to do so in Ubuntu. what are you trying to communicate with?
[04:40] <twain> obdii software  using wine
[04:40] <TJ-> doc-saintly: If you have recovery shell access to mount the root file-system of the installation, first try to identify any firewall in use by examining its "/etc/network/interfaces" file for lines like "iptables-restore </etc/iptables.up.rules" which point you to where the firewall rules are stored.
[04:40] <twain> thanks for the response
[04:41] <ObrienDave> twain, there are several Win programs that will do that. the name of any escape me now
[04:41] <allstarsnorks2> Hey. How I uninstall the terminal in Xubuntu? I have installed Pantheon, and it came with their own terminal.
[04:42] <allstarsnorks2> *installed Pantheon on Xubuntu
[04:42] <twain> i have the win program   but  cant figure out how to get ubuntu to  pas throw
[04:42] <doc-saintly> TJ-: don't see anything in there. just pretty blank, auth eth0, etc.
[04:43] <TJ-> doc-saintly: Secondly, insert a line into "/etc/rc.local", before the last line that reads "exit 0", that does some logging. e.g. to check if services are listening, or to dump the firewall configuration. Maybe "netstat -tnlp > /var/log/debug.log" and "iptables-save >> /var/log/debug.log" and "ps -efly | grep sshd >> /var/log/debug.log"
[04:43] <doc-saintly> TJ-: I see. thanks for the info, but I think i'm just going to start from scratch, learn my lesson and never use this cloud provider again
[04:43] <TJ-> doc-saintly: Then if you reboot the VM, give it a while to start, then shut it down, return to the rescue shell and check the contents of that log file that ws written to
[04:44] <doc-saintly> TJ-: it takes a long time for me to mount/unmount the disk in order to even view / make changes
[04:44] <TJ-> doc-saintly: how do you know its the cloud provider problem though?
[04:45] <doc-saintly> TJ-: well, I can think of a bunch of things they could have done to prevent this, but I'm sure there's things I could know that would help me fix it.
[04:46] <bjpenn> anyone know how to switch out of guest session in ubuntu?
[04:47] <doc-saintly> all I did was apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, shutdown -r, and that broke things good. SO, they should either not put stuff in their repos that will break VMs like that, or allow a more "physical" type connection to their VMs (like VBox gives fake RDP), or show a console log for debugging, OR have a support ticket system without having to pay another $30 on top of the price of the VM
[04:47] <bjpenn> the login only allows me to log in using guest
[04:47] <doc-saintly> i've done this same thing on another cloud provider and had nowhere near this many problems
[04:47] <bjpenn> and when im in, i cant sudo or do anything
[04:50] <MrSalt> bjpenn, no other users show up?
[04:50] <bjpenn> how do i tell what other users can show up?
[04:50] <bjpenn> i mean
[04:50] <shutUPu> MrSalt: c
[04:51] <bjpenn> by default its on "Guest session"
[04:51] <bjpenn> ive never used the login window before so i dont know what to press or whether theres a dropdown or anything
[04:51] <bjpenn> i tried clicking around, but nothing seems to be clickable
[04:51] <bjpenn> when i click on the Log in -> button
[04:51] <bjpenn> it just logs in as guest
[04:51] <bjpenn> theres a vagrant account that i use
[04:52] <sionih> greetings earthlinks
[04:52] <shutUPu> sionih: g
[04:52] <TJ-> doc-saintly: It looks like MS Azure is leaking private address space; with a tracepath I get "13:  <IP_ADDRESS> " as one hop
[04:53] <shutUPu> TJ-: so
[04:53] <azizLIGHT> how do i favorite a place so i can go back to that location wuickly
[04:54] <azizLIGHT> *quickly
[04:54] <themusicgod1> what kind of place
[04:54] <MrSalt> bjpenn, I'm not sure what the best action is here.  You may be able to cntl-alt-f1 and log in there if you have other users defined.  (cntl-alt-f7) to return to the graphic window.  I
[04:54] <eeee> azizLIGHT: symlink
[04:54] <ObrienDave> in which program?
[04:54] <azizLIGHT> like /some/random/dir
[04:54] <MrSalt> bjpenn, if you do you have other users defined, I don't know the best way to reset them in the login page.  Perhaps others know.
[04:54] <eeee> azizLIGHT: ln -s <favorite place> </path/to/link>
[04:55] <shutUPu> eeee: fast
[04:55] <azizLIGHT> i mean in the gui file manager theres a sidebar for places, and it doesnt seem like i can drag drop locations into it
[04:55] <azizLIGHT> it says places, devices, network in the sidebar
[04:56] <azizLIGHT> how can i add more things to the places section kn the file manager
[04:56] <ObrienDave> azizLIGHT, no, but you can put the link on your desktop. a la windows
[04:56] <bjpenn> anyone know how i can log in with something other than guest session?
[04:56] <shutUPu> azizLIGHT: t
[04:57] <ubuntu> hello
[04:58] <blitz> a linux live usb keeps freezing on me after I mount a ntfs drive and start dd-ing a 2.5 inch drive to an iso file
[04:58] <blitz> I thought it was the usb, so moved to another one same issue
[04:59] <shutUPu> Fuck you all stupid bastard
[04:59] <blitz> hi
[04:59] <azizLIGHT> hmm
[04:59] <blitz> anyone ever heard of this? is there a way to boot to something other than the DE
[04:59] <azizLIGHT> where do i enable the workspaces
[05:00] <doc-saintly> TJ-: what does that mean?
[05:00] <somsip> !text | blitz
[05:00] <ObrienDave> super full moon tonight?
[05:00] <blitz> im gonna reflash ubuntu to the usb stick first
[05:02] <blitz> somsip is there any harm in dding the iso to the stick with bs=10m instead of 1m  ?
[05:03] <TJ-> doc-saintly: Well, any infrastructure provider that leaks private IP address space to the outside world is misconfiguring routers; doesn't give me much confidence in their network
[05:04] <somsip> blitz: it's more likely to bork I guess, but no real idea
[05:04] <doc-saintly> TJ-: I read something about some infrastructure updates, but I guess we'll see.
[05:04] <doc-saintly> bleh. this whole things give me a bad experience of cloud / linux server :(
[05:05] <doc-saintly> guess I shouldn't play with stuff I don't know that well
[05:05] <doc-saintly> I appreciate everyone's help though.
[05:05] <TJ-> doc-saintly: "cloud" is a daft term which means nothing. It's simply remotely located and managed/unmanaged servers
[05:05] <AiNp> Hello
[05:06] <doc-saintly> TJ-: with no physical access
[05:06] <Guest75331> how do i install flash
[05:06] <somsip> !flash | Guest75331
[05:06] <AiNp> Ubuntu software centre- search flash- install
[05:07] <TJ-> doc-saintly: Any professional outfit provides remote consoles via IPMI/KVM over IP for bare metal/dedicated servers, or serial-over-LAN/ssh for virtual machines
[05:08] <AiNp> Or download a .deb from Adobe and run sudo dpkg -i flash.deb
[05:08] <Guest75331> why isnt anything loading in firefox
[05:08] <cfhowlett> !flash | Guest75331
[05:08] <somsip> !details | Guest75331
[05:09] <Guest75331> i clicked that link at help.ubuntu.com and firefox is just spiining
[05:09] <Guest75331> im on the livecd
[05:09] <somsip> Guest75331: try another URL before saying that nothing is loading.
[05:09] <richac> hello,  i was wondering what ports does ubuntu use for the updates?
[05:10] <blitz> wow it froze again
[05:10] <blitz> just looking at gparted
[05:10] <Guest75331> somsip, its doing it for all pages but only sometimes, and intermittently
[05:10] <Guest75331> im connecting via ethernet
[05:11] <Guest75331> is it a hardware problem
[05:11] <somsip> Guest75331: sounds like connection problems then
[05:11] <Guest75331> i have many other devices on this network
[05:11] <Guest75331> none behave this way
[05:11] <Guest75331> its ubuntu
[05:11] <Guest75331> whats going on... it cant handle my ethernet hardware?
[05:12] <Guest75331> how to check
[05:15] <vbgunz> I've changed xorg.conf from driver nvidia to nouveau. I restart the DM and end up with a blinking underscore. I black listed nvidia in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and rebooted but nvidia is still in use. Nouveau should be installed at least the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package is but trying to use the open driver is impossible. What could I be missing?
[05:15] <Guest75331> is it because im on livecd
[05:15] <Guest75331> is livecd havin problems
[05:15] <Guest75331> when i install flashplugin-installer its taking so long
[05:16] <Guest75331> i have a i5-4690k it shouldnt be slow
[05:16] <TJ-> Guest75331: Is it wired or wireless network?
[05:16] <Guest75331> wired
[05:17] <cfhowlett> Guest75331, your on live CD = ram.  you're installing to RAM.  OF COURSE it's slow!  it's all in RAM!
[05:17] <bjpenn> anyone know how i can get in with a user other than "Guest Session" or prevent it from going into this GUI login? https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.hipchat.com/146930/1059933/2iWCHk5BBDUQj8w/upload.png
[05:17] <Guest75331> cfhowlett,  so is that why also the network is going slow?
[05:18] <Guest75331> its like its waiting and then burst loads
[05:18] <bjpenn> how do i even get into grub?
[05:18] <TJ-> Guest75331: It sounds more like a DNS resolver delay
[05:18] <cfhowlett> Guest75331, this ^^^
[05:18] <blitz> I hope you're happy ubuntu now I'm questioning my own sanity and running memtest
[05:18] <cfhowlett> blitz, running memtest is a sane activity.
[05:19] <TJ-> bjpenn: Hold down "shift" key as the system starts to boot
[05:21] <Guest75331> TJ-, how do i test if thats the real problem? its only happening on ubuntu on my network. my android works fine, chromecast works fine, win7 works fine
[05:21] <Guest75331> it just says "Connecting to speedtest.net" in firefox
[05:22] <bjpenn> TJ-: thanks
[05:22] <bjpenn> TJ-: do you happen to know how i can log in with an actual account rather than being limted to "guest session"?
[05:22] <richac> assign a static ip address and change dns servers
[05:22] <Guest75331> whats the hotkey for the workspaces
[05:22] <Guest75331> ok
[05:23] <TJ-> bjpenn: If the account exists it should be available via the GUI greeter, or if you limit the system to "text" mode, at a tty login
[05:24] <bjpenn> im using vagrant
[05:24] <greeter> -.- i gotta disable highlights for this channel
[05:24] <bjpenn> im not sure if you know what that is, but every "box" comes with a vagrant account
[05:24] <bjpenn> so theres a vagrant accoun
[05:24] <bjpenn> how do i select it?
[05:26] <richac> is there a way to stop screensaver on idle when watching videos?
[05:29] <blitz> ok I booted into text mode, but now I can't mount my ntfs drive like I could before
[05:29] <blitz> I do sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/a
[05:29] <blitz> and get NTFS signature is missing
[05:30] <blitz> unless fdisk -l is misreporting drives, I'm 100% sure that's the right device
[05:31] <blitz> fdisk says it's GPT now
[05:32] <richac> is there a way to stop screensaver automatically when playing videos?
[05:33] <Loshki> richac: its configurable on some players. Check your docs.
[05:35] <richac> i'm using vlc
[05:35] <richac> and firefox
[05:36] <richac> I don't think its possible
[05:41] <g-one> getting error on ubuntu while compile package samba ..help .???
[05:44] <Loshki> richac: mplayer may be the only one that does it. How about just setting the timeout much longer on your screensaver. It may cost you battery though...
[05:45] <ubuntu__> how to enable the workspaces
[05:46] <g-one>  Could not find the python development headers
[05:46] <g-one> help ????
[05:46] <somsip> g-one: install python-dev probably
[05:50] <ubuntu__> what are those things at the top called? icons like the volume, or mail icon, or En
[05:57] <cfhowlett> how do I pipe terminal output to a txt file, please?
[05:58] <Loshki> cfhowlett: do you mean: command > file.txt
[05:58] <cfhowlett> Loshki, THAT's the one.  Thank you!
[05:59] <Coded1> hello all
[05:59] <john_rambo> Suppose I do #ufw allow <port> This opens the port to all IP ranges right ? I want to open the port to only the <IP_ADDRESS> range ....What is the command for that ?
[06:01] <Coded1> I picked up a cheap VPS that I would like to use as a VPN server.  The OS installed is Ubuntu 14.04.  I tried removing services I don't need such as postfix, sendmail, apache2 and samba.  Once I "apt-get remove --purge" all these packages they are all gone.  Now though when I do "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" (as root) apache2, samba and all the other packages I removed get listed to upgrade
[06:02] <sargas> audio stopped working on 14.04 after modifying files in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/
[06:02] <Coded1> so now when I upgrade Ubuntu wants to pull in apache2, samba, postfix et al
[06:02] <sargas> can someone help me get it back?
[06:03] <sargas> if I run pulseaudio I get "E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[06:03] <sargas> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[06:03] <sargas> "
[06:03] <Coded1> sargas: have your tried "sudo apt-get reinstall alsa" ?
[06:04] <sargas> Coded1: reinstall doens't seem to be a command
[06:04] <sargas> Coded1: did you mean a purge, then an install?
[06:04] <Loshki> sargas: try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa
[06:05] <sargas> Loshki: done, how do I restart the service (or whatever alsa is)?
[06:05] <cyberpolice> is this purple tint in the dash normal: http://i.imgur.com/R82hsmV.png
[06:06] <Loshki> sargas: beats me, did the files in alsa.conf.d change?
[06:07] <sargas> Loshki: I have no idea
[06:07] <sargas> Loshki: I renamed some files in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/
[06:07] <sargas> Loshki: then renamed i back to what it was
[06:08] <sargas> Loshki: and now he sound plays on startup (at the login window), but that's it
[06:08] <Loshki> sargas: you can always reboot if no-one has a better option. Next time, before you make changes, make a backup copy: cp -r alsa.conf.d alsa.conf.d.bak
[06:09] <sargas> Loshki: yeah, just renaming the files didn't prove to be fail-proof
[06:09] <Loshki> sargas: :-)
[06:09] <sargas> Loshki: next time I'll make backups...
[06:10]  * cfhowlett thinks experience is a great teacher.
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Coded1, I can't think of a single reason why those purged packages are trying to return on updating.  should not happen.
[06:11] <Guest19151> line for changing your name?
[06:11] <cfhowlett> !nick Guest19151
[06:11] <cfhowlett> !nick | Guest19151
[06:12] <Loshki> sargas: I keep /etc backed up anyway. With a separate /home, I can upgrade/reinstall in an hour or so...
[06:12] <Coded1> How can I get a dependency tree ?  Is there a way to see what package is pulling in apache2 and the rest?
[06:13] <onkl> it's been a while
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Coded1, man rdepends iirc
[06:13] <Coded1> cfhowlett: thank you sir
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Coded1, happy2help
[06:13] <hillary> Am unable to use my broadband modem in ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[06:13] <sargas> Loshki: rebooted the machine, didn't work
[06:13] <hillary> It disconnect
[06:14] <sargas> Loshki: if you have other suggestions, let me know
[06:14] <hillary> any help?
[06:14] <onkl> how are you connected to the internet, hillary?
[06:14] <sargas> Loshki: When I use hotkeys to volume up and down, it initially works, but stops after I try try to play a video or audio
[06:15] <hillary> am now using cable network
[06:15] <hillary> in a cyber cafe
[06:15] <onkl> wired?
[06:16] <hillary> but when i switch to ubuntu studio it is fine
[06:17] <cfhowlett> hillary, question: ubuntustudio is installed to HDD?
[06:17] <hillary> yes
[06:17] <cyberpolice> what are those things at the top called? icons like the volume, or mail icon, or En
[06:17] <Coded1> it turned out I removed apache2 but not apache2-bin/doc/etc .  Is there a 'better' way to uninstall packages so I don't get orphaned packages?
[06:17] <cyberpolice> can i get more of those
[06:17] <cyberpolice> in android i call them notifications?
[06:17] <chull> can someone please help with my husband's ubuntu 13.04 - where is "menu"?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> Coded1, apt-get purge apache2*
[06:17] <hillary> i have both studio and 12.04 in my laptop
[06:18] <cfhowlett> chull, 13.04 is unsupported and end of life.  help your husband by installing a supported OS.
[06:18] <Coded1> cfhowlett: cool I guess I just got lazy :)
[06:18] <Coded1> cfhowlett: thanks again
[06:18] <cfhowlett> Coded1, happy2help
[06:18] <hillary> cfhowlett you get me?
[06:18] <cfhowlett> hillary, studio 14.04?
 13.8
[06:19] <cfhowlett> hillary, 13.8??? no such animal.
[06:19] <chull> cfhowlett, wonderful. i think he is waiting to get his new system. he can't seem to download and install programs. i was thinking his apt/sources/list needs amending - which the webpage says is better done with synaptic and i can't begin to help - my old gnome desktop is hugely different from his
[06:19] <cfhowlett> hillary, anyway, 13.04 and 13.10 are both end of life.  time to upgrade.
[06:20] <cfhowlett> hillary, sorry.  meant that for chull.
[06:20] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | chull
 sorry sorry 12.10
[06:21] <onkl> lol
[06:21] <cfhowlett> chull, not a matter of amending.  his OS is no longer supported, including security upgrades.  when he goes online, he is vulnerable and exposed - and not the good kind.
 it is studio 12.10
[06:22] <cfhowlett> hillary, 12.10 ubuntustudio?  end of life, but it finds your modem?  good.  going online without security upgrades - bad.  time to upgrade that as well.  but : why TWO ubuntus?  choose one!
 so i download 13.04 or 13.10? advice
[06:24] <cfhowlett> hillary, neither!!! both those are end of life.  current supported versions are 12.04.5 and 14.04.1
[06:24] <onkl> maybe have to install updates sequentially?
[06:24] <onkl> or am i confusing things?
[06:24] <hillary> I get this error when upgrading packages "subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[06:24] <cfhowlett> hillary, as you're on 12.10, you could 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04 OR (my advice) torrent the 14.04.1 .iso and clean install.
[06:25] <onkl> go for the latter
[06:25] <cyberpolice> is this purple tint in the dash normal: http://i.imgur.com/R82hsmV.png
[06:26] <cyberpolice> yes or no question
[06:26] <cfhowlett> cyberpolice, I think it's theme dependent
[06:27] <onkl> i bought a used laptop that has a partition on it that i can't read.  should i buy a new HD?
[06:27] <cfhowlett> onkl, y u no format the HDD?
[06:27] <onkl> how to DM?
[06:28] <onkl> i haven't been on IRC in years
[06:28] <cyberpolice> cfhowlett, i chaned themes from ambience to high conrast, and i still see the same purple tint
[06:28] <cfhowlett> onkl, delete the partition and use the HDD IF you are sure you don't need it.  windows7 hides the "restore" partition in an unreadable format as I recall.
[06:28] <cyberpolice> anyone else on ubuntu 14.04 can confirm their dash is purple tinted?
[06:29] <onkl> windows 8, according to the sticker
[06:29] <onkl> cyberpolice, my dash isn't purple tinted.
[06:30] <cfhowlett> onkl, same difference.  probably a windows specific partition.  if you have no plans to ever run windows on that machine, nuke it.  otherwise save it.  can't be more than a few gb in size, right?
[06:30] <cyberpolice> wierd. so maybe its my hardware related
[06:31] <onkl> 220 MB, which is why i was scared
[06:31] <onkl> why can't I read that?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> onkl, dude.  windows proprietary formatting.
[06:31] <onkl> I can nuke that
[06:32] <onkl> nuked.  and i'm still here.
[06:32] <cfhowlett> onkl, "I Will Never Run Windows On This Machine" ... sign here and nuke away.
[06:32] <onkl> lol
[06:32] <cfhowlett> onkl, dust cloud.  perfect.
[06:32] <onkl> yay!  I feel so free
[06:32] <kudakwashe> i'm not sure how to report this bug - ( screenshot of window: http://i.imgur.com/UvLZaup.png - in Language Support -> Regional Formats it shows the currency as the Zimbabwe Dollar, though we've been using the United States Dollar since 2009 ( and probably will for many years to come )
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !bug | kudakwashe
[06:33] <kostkon> cyberpolice, your dash looks normal. what's the problem
[06:33] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: what package is that ( if you can please take the time to look at the screen shot )
[06:33] <cyberpolice> kostkon, oh? someone else said their dash wasnt purple
[06:34] <cyberpolice> kostkon, you saw the pic? http://i.imgur.com/R82hsmV.png
[06:34] <kostkon> cyberpolice, your dash takes the average colour of your wallpaper. change the wallpaper and it will change colour
[06:34] <cyberpolice> interseting
[06:34] <cyberpolice> ill do that
[06:35] <cyberpolice> kostkon, thanks, that did the trick
[06:35] <onkl> i was good at computers once
[06:35] <kostkon> cyberpolice, ;)
[06:35] <cyberpolice> onkl, what happened
[06:35] <onkl> i can't remember
[06:36] <onkl> i think i reinstalled the drivers and everything worked
[06:36] <taropalo> Ehlo
[06:38] <Zhong> 中
[06:38] <onkl> zhong
[06:38] <taropalo> any experts on nvidia and X
[06:38] <cyberpolice> zhongwen
[06:38] <cfhowlett> !cn | Zhong,
[06:38] <kudakwashe> how can i find hte package name forL System Settings -> Language Support -> Regional Formats
[06:38] <onkl> zhongwen, ma?
[06:38] <kudakwashe> how can i find hte package name for: System Settings -> Language Support -> Regional Formats
[06:38] <cyberpolice> bu
[06:39] <onkl> so incredibly bu
[06:39] <onkl> any of you guys beer fans?
[06:39] <Zhong> !cn | wo
[06:40] <Zhong> cool
[06:40] <onkl> liang ge jie jie he wo
[06:40] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: should i contact the ubuntu zimbabwe loco team instead of filing a bug report ( since i can't figure out the package name )
[06:40] <kudakwashe> ?
[06:41] <kudakwashe> there is no one in #ubuntu-zw
[06:41] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, that would probably be easiest.
[06:41] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: yeah, i'll email them
[06:43] <gorgath> I'm running a custom kernel
[06:43] <aris> hello
[06:43] <gorgath> frankenbuntu
[06:43] <gorgath> HI aris
[06:43] <aris> new in linux
[06:43] <cyberpolice> i <3 linux
[06:43] <gorgath> aris: abandon all hope all ye who wonder here
[06:44] <gorgath> linux is soul crushing
[06:44] <kudakwashe> i love gnu/linux
[06:44] <gorgath> stallman doesn't like ubuntu
[06:44] <gorgath> he calls it spyware
[06:44] <aris> is this a help "chat" for *ubuntu?
[06:44] <kudakwashe> gorgath: he says that
[06:44] <yeahnoob> Then what he like?
[06:44] <cyberpolice> yeah but he doesnt like it because its on by default
[06:44] <cfhowlett> !ot
[06:44] <cyberpolice> but you can change that
[06:44] <somsip> aris: yes - just ask your questions
[06:45] <kudakwashe> gorgath: but he realises that withough ubuntu trisquel wouldn't make much progress
[06:45] <aris> nothing yet all good, im on xubuntu now!
[06:45] <Sachiru> Could someone recommend me a good and free sFlow/NetFlow collector and analyzer that can run on Ubuntu? Basically I need something to collect both sFlow data and logs from my router (Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite) for bandwidth monitoring, ideally on a per-ip basis.
[06:45] <kudakwashe> gorgath: yeah the amazon thing etc. he went a little over board on tha tone
[06:45] <dopie> anyone here use sublimetext 2?
[06:45] <kudakwashe> gorgath: it's so easy to turn that "feature" ( read: spyware )  off
[06:45] <kudakwashe> :-)
[06:46] <kudakwashe> but i love stallman, i mean, linus torvalds wrote the linux kernel using gcc (which stallman wrote)
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Sachiru: apt-cache search bandwith
[06:46] <gorgath> You can compile the kernel with clang now
[06:46] <kudakwashe> gorgath: that's true
[06:47] <gorgath> and clang is faster than gcc
[06:47] <taropalo> I have problem when login screen comes the desktop is stretched after login I go settings manager and I change resolution to something and then go back to original resolution all is good - anyone idea how to fix it?
[06:47] <Sachiru> I do not need to monitor traffic running on the Ubuntu box, I need to monitor traffic on the ROUTER
[06:47] <kudakwashe> gorgath: stallman deliberately cripples gcc in some ways for philosophical/licensing reasons
[06:48] <aris> is there a list to find channels available here?
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> Sachiru: maybe the ##networking guys might know a solution then
[06:48] <kudakwashe> aris: here meaning on freenode?
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !alis | aris
[06:48] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, please continue this OT discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:49] <aris> #malakas
[06:49] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: yes sir, however, i'm bored with the topic so we'll let it go for now
[06:49] <aris> how do i join a different channel?
[06:49] <aris> what do i type
[06:49] <kudakwashe> aris: what client are you using
[06:49] <kudakwashe> try /join #channel
[06:49] <ObrienDave> aris, /join #channel name
[06:49] <somsip> aris: /join #malakas
[06:49] <aris> ok thanks!
[06:50] <Gatis> Hi just installed kubuntu :)
[06:50] <Gatis> I like KDE
[06:50] <kudakwashe> something like /join #gnu or /join #fsf or /join #trisquel
[06:50] <kudakwashe> perhaps
[06:50] <Gatis> KDE is smoothest cleanest DE for Linux :) Also gnome.
[06:51] <keplrdelta> Objection! XFCE
[06:51] <kudakwashe> Gatis: i like Unity, love it, can't wait to have it on my phone and tv as well ( same goes for my wife) also can't wait for Ubuntu to be completely free ( as in no blobs, proprietary software etc) but it will get there one day
[06:52] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, he gone.   long troll history
[06:52] <aris> unity is good but sometime buggish and heavy
[06:53] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: Gatis is a troll you mean?
[06:53] <aris> XFCE is the best for me!
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> aris: depends on hardware, also you can tweak unity
[06:53] <keplrdelta> I actually really like Unity, but lately Xubuntu has fixed all the problems I had with XFCE, namely compositing without vertical tearing.
[06:53] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, fair to say.  gone now.  let's all move on.
[06:53] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: I have join/part messages turned off so i can't see when someone comes and goes
[06:55] <keplrdelta> Unity works really well, it's totally complete and bug free--like OS X. With Numix theme it's even attractive. I just wish it used half as much RAM.
[06:55] <kudakwashe> keplrdelta: buy more RAM, what's wrong with having 16GB of RAM
[06:55] <kudakwashe> ?
[06:55] <keplrdelta> I can't get that much RAM into my Thinkpad
[06:56] <cfhowlett> keplrdelta, what is your RAM?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: there are other ways to tweak unity go smooth and faster
[06:56] <kudakwashe> keplrdelta: use something like xfce then
[06:57] <keplrdelta> I am using Xubuntu already.
[06:57] <taropalo> Can anyone help me with X/display issue?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> taropalo: define your problem mate
[06:58] <keplrdelta> It's still a bit glitchy. Transitions to login/logout screen, and things aren't smooth.  It's totally usable, but not perfect like Unity.
[06:59] <ObrienDave> unity, pfffffft
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: what are your system specs?
[06:59] <keplrdelta> i5, 4GB RAM, 64GB SSD
[06:59] <taropalo> login screen stretched and after login going settings manager and changing resolution something else and back then all is good
[07:00] <cfhowlett> unity likes ram.  That's a known fact.  Feed it ram or use an alternative.  OR complain, uselessly, about unity's appetite.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: you should be able to run unity fine on those specs..
[07:00] <taropalo> annoying to fix it with every login
[07:00] <keplrdelta> I can absoletly, and have
[07:00] <keplrdelta> But it uses too much RAM
[07:00] <keplrdelta> I hit swap too much
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: you can install preload, tweak swappiness, use all ssd tweaks
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: fstab tweak for ssd
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> keplrdelta: disable eye candy in compiz settings, etc
[07:02] <kudakwashe> if you can't afford enough RAM, then don't use Unity, I can afford a lot of petrol, that's why i bought a guzzler of a sports car, some of the poorer people in my 'hood chose to buy economical fuel savers
[07:02] <kudakwashe> because they can't afford the fuel
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> kudakwashe: 4gig ram is enough for unity
[07:03] <kudakwashe> lotuspsychje: definately
[07:05] <keplrdelta> XFCE is pretty much perfect for me anyway
[07:05] <kudakwashe> Ubuntu isn't a religion, i isn't a sin to remove unity and use something else
[07:05] <keplrdelta> I just wish there was a file search like Unity
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !flavors
[07:05] <kudakwashe> it isn't a sin....
[07:06] <cfhowlett> ikonia, are you actually unbanning all those addresses are is there something funky going oin?
[07:06] <ikonia> cfhowlett: correct, a little house keeping I've been laps on
[07:06] <cfhowlett> ikonia, keep up the good work, Captain!
[07:06] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: that's great, i'm setting up a computer lab for a local primary school (it will bed powered by solar ) and because the hardware is old i think i'm going for xfce
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> kudakwashe: lets keep this channel for ubuntu support
[07:07] <kudakwashe> lotuspsychje: yes sir
[07:07] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, note: lubuntu is specifically optimized for older / lower spec hardware.  xubuntu also works quite well.
[07:07] <kudakwashe> lotuspsychje: that's why i'm here
[07:07] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: thanks, i think that's what i need for this project
[07:08] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, then don't forget to document and publicize!
[07:08] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: i definately will, with photos as well
[07:08] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: i think it'll be great to have a childs first computing experience to be with ubuntu and not microsoft
[07:09] <cfhowlett> kudakwashe, never can start too young!
[07:10] <kudakwashe> cfhowlett: the school does have electricity, so the solar will be for backup because there are power outages (probably off topic)
[07:10] <kudakwashe> anwyway, thanks for the help, got to go
[07:11] <keplrdelta> I was finally able to give up Windows because Kerbal Space Program runs on Linux. Still can't get a plane to travel round the world on one tank of fuel.
[07:11] <_transience> much bans
[07:11] <cyberpolice> why he banning everyone
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> if you dont ban users for silly reasons, much work to unban
[07:11] <ikonia> cyberpolice: I'm not
[07:12] <ikonia> I'm removing bans, apologies for the noise
[07:12] <keplrdelta> Ubuntu made Steam easy. Is Steam OS built on Ubuntu or Debian?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !steam | keplrdelta
[07:12] <ObrienDave> ikonia, ignore the nay-sayers :)
[07:13] <ddv> most games won't even run on steam linux, waste of time imo
[07:14] <keplrdelta> I only play KSP and Skyrim these days.
[07:14] <cyberpolice> whats ksp
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> ddv: alot of games can run on ubuntu, steam, playonlinux, wine, appdb
[07:14] <ObrienDave> ddv, no one promised you 100% compatibility
[07:15] <ddv> lotuspsychje: well 95% won't
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> ddv: dont guess a number, check the playonlinux list first
[07:15] <ddv> lotuspsychje: maybe in 10 yeaers it will be something
[07:16] <ddv> lotuspsychje: i'm not guessing
[07:16] <cyberpolice> theres like 0 posts on that valve linux blog since 2 years
[07:16] <ddv> lotuspsychje: it's common sense, Microsoft will never port directx to Linux
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> ddv: ubuntu has its own ways to run games smoothly
[07:18] <ikonia> does it ?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> ddv: not all games indeed, but at least ubuntu i a safe Os
[07:18] <ddv> lotuspsychje: it won't run 95% of the games out there
[07:18] <ikonia> what's it's own way to run games ?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> anyway working times
[07:19] <ddv> lotuspsychje: seriously i'm getting a bit tired of try wine bla bla, i'm not blaming linux for this btw, it's because of the marketshare in the desktop space and game developers loving the Microsoft stack
[07:19] <ikonia> ddv: I agree with you, the wine/steam option is not realistic
[07:19] <ObrienDave> it's about the almighty dollar
[07:19] <taropalo> ddv: perhaps not love but paid
[07:22] <ddv> valve fears the windows marketplace, the linux push makes sense for them, you have to start somewhere but valve thought a lot of developer would follow, guess what they won't because of the marketshare, alienware dediced to just put windows on their silly steambox because most games don't run on linux and they don't want to wait
[07:23] <kostkon> !ot | ddv
[07:23] <ddv> :)
[07:24] <ObrienDave> dang, some familiar names in that ban list LOL
[07:24] <FailFarm> hello
[07:24] <kostkon> FailFarm, hi
[07:24] <ObrienDave> greetings & welcome
[07:25] <sargas> is there an Ubuntu distro that doesn't use pulseaudio?
[07:25] <somsip> sargas: minimal does not install it by default
[07:25] <kostkon> sargas, lubuntu i think
[07:26] <ddv> sargas: maybe you should try to fix your pulseaudio problems first
[07:26] <ObrienDave> no clue
[07:26] <sargas> ddv: I'm already trying
[07:26] <sargas> but it seems to be causing more problems
[07:26] <ObrienDave> i wish someone would fix jack audio LOL
[07:27] <sargas> ddv: that thing is related to even graphical stuff and the System Settings... WTF were they thinking?
[07:27] <ddv> sargas: well it's volunteer work so maybe you should try to bugreport or provide a patch :-)
[07:27] <FailFarm> ddv, :D
[07:28] <sargas> ddv: I am trying, it is hard to wrap my mind around pulseaudio, more knowledgeable users seems to have control over it
[07:28] <kostkon> sargas, what's the problem exactly
[07:29] <sargas> ddv: I'm grateful to the volunteers, they do a great job at making Ubuntu progress
[07:29] <sargas> kostkon: When I run a java application in Eclipse, sound stops working
[07:29] <sargas> kostkon: until I reboot the laptop
[07:30] <kostkon> sargas, ok
[07:30] <sargas> kostkon: My use case was: I had grooveshark opened on my Firefox Aurora, it was playing music. That's when I finished writing some Java code and ran it on Eclipse
[07:31] <sargas> kostkon: Eclipse took over the sound, browser got mute and started freezing, trying to run the project (it's a Game) again will give me the following error:
[07:32] <sargas> kostkon: https://gist.github.com/andradei/dd2cba2feed67fdbf7fd
[07:33] <ObrienDave> does Eclipse use Jack audio?
[07:33] <kostkon> sargas, so your code crashed. It says "Could not locate OpenAL library."
[07:33] <sargas> I believe not
[07:33] <kostkon> sargas, something to do with it?
[07:33] <sargas> kostkon: it crashed after the first time I ran it. The first time works just fine
[07:33] <sargas> kostkon: and some subsequent runs also work
[07:34] <sargas> kostkon: but Firefox, or VLC won't have sound until I reboot
[07:34] <kostkon> sargas, when it happens again, check if pulse is still running. start from there
[07:35] <sargas> kostkon: it is always running
[07:35] <sargas> kostkon: ps aux | grep pulseaudio always shows it running
[07:35] <sargas> kostkon: it is happening now
[07:36] <sargas> sargas    3910  0.6  0.0 568428  6328 ?        S<l  01:10   0:10 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[07:36] <sargas> sargas    4326  0.0  0.0  15940   920 pts/10   S+   01:35   0:00 grep --color=auto pulseaudio
[07:36] <kostkon> sargas, first of all, check in syslog for any pulseaudio errors messages
[07:36] <kostkon> sargas, then try restarting it
[07:36] <sargas> kostkon: whats the path to it on 14.04?
[07:37] <kostkon> sargas, use the system log app or e.g.  gedit /var/log/syslog
[07:39] <sargas> kostkon: does that mean something?
[07:39] <sargas> kostkon:  pulseaudio[19416]: [pulseaudio] main.c: User-configured server at {d06dc625274a24617f38e64753f7da43}unix:/run/user/1000/pulse/native, which appears to be local. Probing deeper.
[07:39] <kostkon> sargas, could be.
[07:39] <kostkon> sargas, kill and restart pulse.    pulseaudio -k   then pulseaudio -D
[07:41] <sargas> kostkon: I get: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[07:41] <sargas>
[07:41] <sargas> kostkon: after restarting it
[07:41] <sargas> kostkon: I can't seem to understand why
[07:42] <kostkon> sargas, is your code still running. check for any left over procs
[07:43] <kostkon> sargas, in any case, close eclipse and try starting pulse again
[07:45] <sargas> kostkon: doing it
[07:45] <sargas> kostkon: after running the Java application I get this on syslog
[07:45] <sargas> Sep  8 21:47:30 sargas-zb pulseaudio[2262]: [alsa-source-92HD91BXX Analog] ratelimit.c: 3 events suppressed
[07:45] <sargas> Sep  8 21:47:30 sargas-zb pulseaudio[2262]: [alsa-source-92HD91BXX Analog] asyncq.c: q overrun, queuing locally
[07:45] <sargas> Sep  8 21:47:30 sargas-zb pulseaudio[2262]: message repeated 10 times: [ [alsa-source-92HD91BXX Analog] asyncq.c: q overrun, queuing locally]
[07:46] <kanhiay> hi all, i am using ubuntu 14.04 and i have a lenovo b480 dual core laptop. It's dvd drive never created issues on windows but on ubuntu it is ejecting automatically. I reinserted, again ejected. It is happening many times. FInally, i keep it ejected and didn't inserted it. After few minutes, i again inserted, this time DVD Drive didn't ejected.  THis happens atleast once after a restart.
[07:47] <kanhiay> what can be the problem?
[07:47] <kanhiay> there is no problem with the hardware, because it never happened on Windows
[07:47] <ikonia> kanhiay: is it a mechanical eject, or a spring loaded ?
[07:47] <kostkon> sargas, ok
[07:48] <Loopeth> cts
[07:48] <kanhiay> ikonia: I am on a laptop. Don't know, what are you talking about
[07:48] <ikonia> kanhiay: is the cdrom tray a mechanical one that motors out, or a spring loaded one that pops out
[07:48] <kanhiay> ikonia: i can also eject it using right click and eject
[07:49] <sargas> kostkon: closed eclipse, Firefox is still freezing when I reload a youtube tab to replay a video
[07:49] <kanhiay> ikonia: i think it is mechanical one,
[07:49] <kostkon> sargas, did you manage to run pulse though?
[07:50] <ikonia> kanhiay: if you can right click it on the desktop that means there is media in it and loaded
[07:50] <ikonia> kanhiay: so it can't be ejecting as you put media in, or the cdrom icon would not diplay
[07:50] <ikonia> display
[07:50] <kanhiay> ikonia: no, i was talking about Windows
[07:50] <sargas> kostkon: no
[07:50] <ikonia> kanhiay: what happens if you close the cdrom tray with no media in
[07:51] <kanhiay> ikonia: it is ejecting automatically on uBUNTU,
[07:51] <kanhiay> whether there is media or not
[07:51] <ikonia> kanhiay: that seems very unlikley
[07:51] <sargas> kostkon: I think it is because it is already running and has autoreload
[07:51] <ikonia> kanhiay: that sounds more like a mechanical fault
[07:51] <kanhiay> ikonia: no, i did the same on Windows and it worked fine
[07:51] <kanhiay> not a single time
[07:52] <ikonia> kanhiay: look in the syslog see if there is a dbus event
[07:52] <kanhiay> it never gave me error on windows, i have a dual boot system
[07:52] <kanhiay> ikonia: please give me a command to see the event
[07:54] <sargas> kostkon: as frustrating as this is, it won't keep me from programming :), I'll go rest my eyeballs and try to find a solution later
[07:54] <sargas> kostkon: Thanks you for taking the time to give me some directions
[07:55] <kostkon> sargas, np
[07:57] <kanhiay> ikonia: WHERE IS SYSLOG
[07:57] <ikonia> kanhiay: it's in the /var/log directory
[07:57] <ikonia> no need for caps
[08:06] <ddv> kanhiay: try the whereis, locate commands :)
[08:08] <kanhiay> ddv: i never used them and i am a normal user of Linux, considering it to be easy like Windows but there are some flaws
[08:09] <ddv> kanhiay: Linux will never be like Windows imo
[08:09] <kanhiay> ddv: my empty dvd drive is ejecting automatically, it never happend with me on windows and now i have a dual boot system, but it never happend with me on windows
[08:10] <iptable> kanhiay, syslog is in /var/log/syslog
[08:10] <ddv> no it's in /var/log
[08:10] <iptable> kanhiay, best way to view it is with either tail or cat tools (command line tools)
[08:10] <kanhiay> iptable: i have seen it, there are many files and it syslog file, there are lot of entries
[08:10] <kanhiay> iptable: i opened it using gedit
[08:11] <kanhiay> iptable: there are dbus entries like that  [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' (using servicehelper)
[08:11] <kanhiay> Sep  9 13:21:45 easy-linux dbus[502]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
[08:11] <kanhiay> Sep  9 13:27:43 easy-linux dbus[502]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1' (using servicehelper)
[08:11] <kanhiay> Sep  9 13:27:43 easy-linux dbus[502]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.hostname1'
[08:11] <iptable> kanhiay, from command prompt run "dmesg" and see if within the last few lines you get something useful as indicator
[08:12] <iptable> I recently moved from xchat to hexchat. How do I stop Quit/joined/left messages in hexchat?
[08:15] <cynicallemon> iptable: settings > preferences > Chatting > general >hide join and part msgs
[08:16] <iptable> cynicallemon, cheers :)
[08:17] <iptable> IRC becomes much more usable soon as join/leave/quit are gone
[08:18] <cynicallemon> iptable: i find hexchat a little buggy but at least its being actively developed
[08:19] <Vladimir> I've got ubuntu servers, when I logged with ssh on the first one, I type in username and it instantly asks for the password, BUT for the other server after typing the username it wait atleast 10-15 seconds before asking for the password.
[08:19] <iptable> cynicallemon, well, I moved to it about 20 minutes ago, so my first impression in comparison to xchat is: ugly. I did like xchat looks.
[08:19] <ikonia> Vladimir: reverse dns
[08:19] <Vladimir> reverse dns?
[08:19] <ikonia> yes
[08:20] <Vladimir> so the problem is on the DNS server?
[08:20] <ikonia> the problem is the reverse dns lookup is slow
[08:20] <iptable> vlad003, ssh by default tries to look up hostname for IP. if you don't have reverse DNS, this happens
[08:20] <cynicallemon> iptable: well yeah take a little adjusting, i may go back to irssi :)
[08:20] <iptable> Vladimir, ^
[08:20] <iptable> Vladimir, edit ssh(d) configs to disable dns lookups
[08:20] <inf> I suppose it's not the proper channel for such questions, but are there any official plans on introducing ofono as a default wireless manager for network-manager, instead of modem-manager?
[08:21] <ddv> inf: you should check the mailinglists
[08:23] <MO_Handes> how to completely remove a package marked as iU ?
[08:24] <iptable> MO_Handes, apt-get purge package_name
[08:24] <iptable> MO_Handes, also, apt-get autoremove
[08:27] <wlxmhls> mint-xfce vs xubuntu, which is faster on low spec laptop?
[08:29] <ObrienDave> that question is not worth answering
[08:29] <Vladimir> I changed to UseDNS no but still it's taking a long time, I changed in the resolv.conf to search localdomain and domain localdomain but still same issue
[08:30] <wlxmhls> why not ?  mint-xfce is not slow
[08:31] <ObrienDave> !best
[08:31] <DJones> wlxmhls: You're asking in an ubuntu channel, so the only answer you'd get would be xubuntu, we couldn't say about mint
[08:31] <ObrienDave> dang, who killed ubottu
[08:31] <wlxmhls> ok
[08:32] <ObrienDave> both use xfce. therefore they should be about the same performance wise
[08:37] <iptable> wlxmhls, both are same speed performance wise
[08:56] <ruby_on_tails> i am trying to create a screencast, but no matter what app or settings i use the screencast is never as good as teh real screen, why? i am using  recordmydesktop atm
[08:58] <ObrienDave> because your taking a native graphic image and casting it as a JPEG or something with similar compression. it will never look as good as your screen. afaik
[08:59] <tonys> hi
[09:00] <iptable> cynicallemon, any idea how in hexchat I would filter out "is now known as"
[09:01] <ObrienDave> turn off nick changes
[09:01] <iptable> yes, where?
[09:01] <ObrienDave> chatting, general
[09:01] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: how does the screen make it better?
[09:02] <cynicallemon> iptable: yeah same place as per hide/part, next tickbox down
[09:02] <ruby_on_tails> i am ready to use any format or any app or any thing to make it look as good as the screen is that possible? how do they do HD videos of animations from after effects, etc?
[09:02] <iptable> ObrienDave, nope. only join/leave there...
[09:02] <ObrienDave> ruby_on_tails, other way around, your screencast will NEVER look as good as your native screen
[09:02] <ObrienDave> iptable, which version?
[09:03] <iptable> ObrienDave, 2.9.6
[09:03] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: "other way around" means?
[09:03] <ObrienDave> iptable, get 2.10.1 in repos
[09:03] <ObrienDave> the screen does NOT make it better
[09:03] <iptable> ObrienDave, it's not in 14.04 repos, no? I'm running latest in there
[09:04] <ObrienDave> ip
[09:04] <ObrienDave> iptable, http://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html
[09:05] <iptable> oh... I'd rather avoid doing that if possible
[09:05] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: hmm, thats sad, i am making a screencast which really needs 100% details
[09:05] <zetheroo1> I have Ubuntu installed on a server with 4 HDD bays, two of which have disks for data. I would like to remove them from server without rebooting or shutting down the server - is this possible?
[09:05] <ObrienDave> iptable, ok fine
[09:06] <ObrienDave> !info hexchat
[09:06] <iptable> ObrienDave, cynicallemon found it. Settings => Text Events. Find "nick change" event and remove the text field from it. Issue fixed.
[09:06] <iptable> any notification can be changed/adjusted and disabled there
[09:07] <ObrienDave> cool, thanks
[09:08] <cynicallemon> hexchat need some work before its up to xchats standard, the auto join channel is buggy
[09:08] <MrChopVG> Hi I was wondering if i could get some help with pwmconfig
[09:09] <ObrienDave> everything needs work to come up to something elses standards
[09:09] <iptable> well, I don't use autojoin channels, so that's ok ;) My ZNC bouncer pushes that to my client automatically
[09:10] <MrChopVG> Any help is welcome. im new to Ubuntu and am having trouble editing the Pwmconfig file
[09:10] <ObrienDave> i don't have 95% of the problems 95% of the users have
[09:10] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, yeah, but you're ... "special" ...
[09:11] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: http://pasteboard.co/4sWasel.png original http://pasteboard.co/4sMRTPz.png video is there anything i can do? :( i will become sad if i cant
[09:11] <cynicallemon> iptable: ok, i configure a list for auto join, save and when i repopened hexchat they had gone!
[09:11] <MrChopVG> I got 99 problems but a cooling fan aint one
[09:11] <ObrienDave> not as special as cfhowlett ;P
[09:11] <MrChopVG> well nevermind i guess it is the problem
[09:12] <iptable> cynicallemon, sounds like my "pay for parking" phone app :D I configure all the locations for auto parking, come back and have a ticket :/
[09:12] <cynicallemon> iptable:  had to manually alter the config file, J = ....... for each channel i wanted to join
[09:12] <cynicallemon> iptable: lol
[09:12] <MrChopVG> Has anyone messed with their pwmconfig file?
[09:13] <ObrienDave> ruby_on_tails, ok, the second is a little fuzzy. not unreadable
[09:13] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: its a design tutorial i cant afford it
[09:13] <ruby_on_tails> there are other colors in the video which are very very horrible
[09:13] <ruby_on_tails> :(
[09:13] <MrChopVG> Anyone at all...
[09:15] <ObrienDave> ruby, i don't know of any screencast software that is 100% accurate. which one are you using?
[09:15] <MrChopVG> With the 8 billion people in this channel i figured someone knew how to do this
[09:15] <ObrienDave> only 1650 ;P
[09:15] <ObrienDave> ruby_on_tails, i don't know of any screencast software that is 100% accurate. which one are you using?
[09:16] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: Do you control your fan speed?
[09:16] <ruby_on_tails> the screenshot is from ffmpeg
[09:16] <ObrienDave> nope
[09:16] <MrChopVG> well shizz
[09:16] <ruby_on_tails> ObrienDave: i used this command: ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1024x768 -r 25 -i :0.0 -sameq output.mkv
[09:17] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, BIOS controls my fan
[09:17] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, late to this conversation, but maybe I can help.  What exactly is your goal?
[09:17] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: Ahh..
[09:17] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, ruby_on_tails wants 100% screencast accuracy
[09:18] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: i am making a design tutorial, the text is getting blurred, colors a bit distorted, cant afford it :(
[09:18] <ruby_on_tails> MrChopVG:  http://pasteboard.co/4sWasel.png original http://pasteboard.co/4sMRTPz.png video
[09:18] <MrChopVG> So apperiantly there is this bug where fan control files are messed up but where it says there is text to be replaced mine is completely different..
[09:18] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, gigo.  set your screen resolution as high as you can.  plan for some degradation.  record and edit.
[09:19] <MrChopVG> ruby_on_tails: whydid you send that to me?
[09:19] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, as ObrienDave stated; no 100% solution ... but you can still do a creditable job
[09:19] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, where is that file located?
[09:19] <ruby_on_tails> MrChopVG: sorry it was for cfhowlett
[09:20] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, seen it.
[09:20] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: /usr/sbin/pwmconfig
[09:20] <MrChopVG> ruby_on_tails: its all good
[09:20] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: how does after effects videos look so awesome?
[09:20] <rushed> is there an option to override sshd’s internal-sftp + ChrootDirectory requirement that the user not be able to write to their root?
[09:20] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, i don't have that file
[09:21] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: gigo means?
[09:21] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: im trying to do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737
[09:21] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, garbage in, garbage out.  start with the best source media possible.
[09:21] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: my laptop has a heating issue and shuts down randomly
[09:22] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: what does the source mean in this case? the low resolution?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, source media = audio, video, graphic, whatever you're working with.  in your case: video.  1024 x 768 is your graphic card max setting?
[09:23] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, a good cleaning, blowing out, vacuuming is probably in order first
[09:24] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: already did that. took it all apart. this laptop is like 5 years old though so it has some issues
[09:25] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: 1360*768 is the max i have, the video content is basically the browser, no sound
[09:26] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, i don't understand 'fancontrol' or 'pwmconfig'. i would be very hesitant to suggest anything along those lines
[09:27] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, may I suggest "recordmydesktop" app?  You can select the screen real estate you want to capture and set video resolution quite easily and intuitively.
[09:27] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: i used it, the result is almost the same as the blurred thing you saw. i need the full screen though
[09:27] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: do you have any suggestions? beside just replacing it?
[09:28] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: my RMD settings were 100% video quality, 30fps
[09:29] <MrChopVG> my idle temp is 77...
[09:29] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, 1366?  not 1366?  I'd test your recording with 1366x768 settings.  My $0.02
[09:30] <littlebit> hi people, I have slow transfer and response speeds when accessing my android phone via usb
[09:31] <littlebit> can someone help?
[09:31] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: i just recorded the full screen 1360*768, there wasnt any specific setting in RMD for it. Is that what you mean?
[09:31] <frib> is there a pdf application that will let me highlight and modify pdf documents?
[09:31] <RoBo_V> if we queue command like "cmnd1 && cmnd2 && cmnd3" does it mean like when cmnd1 finishes then cmnd and so on... ?
[09:31] <frib> RoBo_V, yes
[09:32] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, && means continue if previous command was successful
[09:33] <MrChopVG> Is shutdown at 90 degrees?
[09:33] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, I'm questioning the 1360 number specifically.  My screentop resolution goes to 1366x768.  I accidentally set 1360 once and it was indeed degraded.  thus my suspicion that 1360 is indeed the max.  just sayin.
[09:33] <RoBo_V> Thanks frib , ObrienDave
[09:34] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: let me try it
[09:34] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, shutdown temp is based on your system. different for others
[09:34] <k1l_> MrChopVG: which cpu/gpu is it? are you useing a lot of cpu time? what gives top for load?
[09:35] <acr> hi bubuntu
[09:35] <MrChopVG> Hey ObrienDave thank you for the help, much appriciated.
[09:36] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, my acpitz-0 are 136.4F
[09:36] <MrBar> how to install windows?
[09:36] <MrChopVG> k1l_: im kinda new to ubuntu i dont really understand what you said... sorry
[09:37] <ruby_on_tails> cfhowlett: 1366 doesnt work at all with ffmpeg
[09:37] <cfhowlett> ruby_on_tails, eh!! always worked for me ...
[09:37] <MrBar> why ubuntu so ugly?
[09:37] <ikonia> MrBar: if you don't like it - don't use it
[09:37] <cfhowlett> MrBar, you're in the wrong channel.  go to ##windows
[09:37] <ikonia> MrBar: basically - stop trolling
[09:37] <MrBar> ikonia, what to use?
[09:37] <ikonia> MrBar: any desktop or OS you want
[09:38] <ikonia> MrBar: there are lots of options, use what you like
[09:38] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: im currently siting at 158F
[09:38] <MrBar> ikonia, ok
[09:38] <Abhijit> MrBar, dos will be best for you.
[09:38] <k1l_> MrChopVG: which CPU and video card is it? is it a laptop? some CPU chips are known to produce a lot of heat
[09:39] <k1l_> MrChopVG: look at "top" and tell what the load average  is (3 numbers). and see if something in the list is constantly using a lot of cpu%
[09:40] <MrChopVG> k1l_: its a Toshiba satellite a665
[09:41] <MrChopVG> k1l_: also cpu is used most by either chrome compiz or skype but its like 5% each
[09:41] <k1l_> sounds like a consumer laptop with much power (=producing lots of heat) build in. so i am not surprised
[09:42] <MrChopVG> k1l_: do you know a way to override the cooling fan?
[09:42] <ObrienDave> MrChopVG, you might try a laptop cooler pad that sits underneath. $15 bucks at walmart
[09:43] <MrChopVG> ObrienDave: alright thanks.
[09:43] <k1l_> that depends on the make and exact model of that laptop. it seems a well common problem with that sort of laptop
[09:43] <k1l_> MrChopVG: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692883  see this
[09:44] <allstarsnorks2> hi guys. how do i remove Xubuntu desktop without removing all its dependencies?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> allstarsnorks2, what is your end goal?
[09:45] <allstarsnorks2> i have installed pantheon desktop. I just want it to be default when I make it into a .iso image using remastersys.
[09:45] <cfhowlett> !remastersys | allstarsnorks2,
[09:45] <cfhowlett> allstarsnorks2, remastersys has been abandoned ... FYI.
[09:45] <MrChopVG> k1l_: I have been trying that but there is a pwmconfig file bu that this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737 is supposed to fix but my file doesnt match up with theirs
[09:45] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu | allstarsnorks2
[09:47] <cynicallemon> remastersys has been known to work with 14.04 even though its no longer developed
[09:48] <allstarsnorks2> how do i get rid of the Xubuntu Session and Xfce session off my login screen?
[09:48] <k1l_> MrChopVG: the files differ from used hardware and from ubuntu release using
[09:48] <k1l_> MrChopVG: the thread is from 2005 and updated 2007
[09:48] <ObrienDave> allstarsnorks2, sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <MrChopVG> k1l_: what would you recomend?
[09:49] <allstarsnorks2> ObrienDave, that's what I did but it still gave me an option for Xubuntu and Xfce
[09:49] <ObrienDave> allstarsnorks2, and the link cfhowlett sent you
[09:49] <MrBar> allstarsnorks2, why u use pantheon? it really awesome?
[09:49] <k1l_> MrChopVG: the thread i linked got a howto in the last answer
[09:51] <MrChopVG> k1l_: unfortunately it still requires a pwmconfig file which to my knowledge is still bugged
[09:51] <ynon1> hi
[09:52] <k1l_> MrChopVG: please read what it written there and dont just blindly copy&paste the commands
[09:52] <ynon1> i need technical supports!
[09:52] <frib> is there any pdf reader that allows you to modify documents?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> !ask | ynon1,
[09:52] <cfhowlett> frib, depends what you need to modify.
[09:52] <MrChopVG> k1l_: a little insulting..
[09:52] <frib> cfhowlett, i just want to highlight text and save doc
[09:53] <ynon1> ask!
[09:53] <ynon1> !ask
[09:53] <k1l_> MrChopVG: sorry, but i dont know what your actual problem is right there. i cant see any comments in that thread or in that linked howto that something with pwmconfig will not work.
[09:54] <ynon1> my wireless connection is slow on ubuntu 14.04
[09:54] <MrChopVG> k1l_: i followed the instructions and when i get to the sudo pwmconfig command this is the error There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[09:54] <ttr> I'm experiencing some weird bug I can't find any references on the web for: On my Dell laptop, my keyboard is rendered useless at times because keyboard input is randomly removed. It's hard to describe but resembles somebody hitting your backspace or escape key constantly while you're typing.
[09:54] <ttr> Does anyone have pointers how to fix this?
[09:55] <cfhowlett> frib, PITA but gimp can do that
[09:55] <ObrienDave> frib, Evince does not seem to adhere to Adobe's security very well ;P
[09:55] <ynon1> i tried the DNS <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> but no way
[09:55] <ttr> it's happening every now and then, but often enough to be a major nuisance.
[09:55] <frib> cfhowlett, yea, that's really too heavy
[09:55] <frib> ObrienDave, if i understand correctly that means it would work?
[09:55] <ynon1> hi i'm here
[09:55] <k1l_> MrChopVG: lm-sensors installed and started?
[09:56] <MrChopVG> k1l_: correct
[09:56] <ObrienDave> frib, no guarantees
[09:56] <frib> ObrienDave, it's not a gui application is it
[09:56] <ObrienDave> yup
[09:56] <frib> ObrienDave, i can't get it to open
[09:56] <ObrienDave> why?
[09:56] <ynon1> i'm asking how to speed up wifi on ubuntu 14.04
[09:56] <ynon1> any help
[09:56] <frib> something about X server
[09:57] <frib> could not open X display No protocol specified
[09:57] <k1l_> MrChopVG: try "sudo service module-init-tools start"
[09:57] <ObrienDave> frib, sorry, i know nothing about x server
[09:57] <frib> ObrienDave, me neither
[09:57] <frib> ObrienDave, ok i found a gtk version that wasn't installed
[09:57] <MrChopVG> k1l_: it reads module-init-tools: unrecognized service
[09:58] <cyber_jomblo> anyone help me... I can't extract open office.tar.gz .
[09:58] <cyber_jomblo> tar -xvf Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
[09:58] <cyber_jomblo> tar: Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[09:58] <cyber_jomblo> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[09:58] <MrBar> how to buy ubuntu?
[09:58] <frib> error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment.
[09:58] <frib> what should that variable be set as?
[09:58] <Ynon> ubuntu is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:58] <MrBar> Ynon, what if i need buy
[09:58] <ikonia> MrBar: you dno't
[09:58] <ikonia> MrBar: look - final warning
[09:59] <ikonia> MrBar: stop trolling
[09:59] <Ynon> well
[09:59] <MrBar> ikonia, ok ok sorry
[09:59] <cfhowlett> ikonia, "No half measures." ... Mike, Breaking Bad
[09:59] <ddv> cyber_jomblo: what are you even trying to accomplish? please use a ppa if you want the newest version
[09:59] <Ynon> it's just for big companies i think!!!!
[09:59] <cfhowlett> Ynon, you're wrong
[09:59] <Ynon> no
[09:59] <Ynon> ubuntu is an open source not like win
[10:00] <frib> ObrienDave, evince doesn't appear to have highlighting functionality
[10:00] <ObrienDave> cyber_jomblo, install LibreOffice
[10:00] <kostkon> MrBar, you can buy dvds from here http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17
[10:00] <frib> ObrienDave, i think okular might work
[10:00] <Ynon> why buy it MrBar
[10:01] <k1l_> Ynon: dont mind the troll. just carry on
[10:01] <k1l_> MrChopVG: did you install toshset package?
[10:01] <Ynon> no
[10:01] <cfhowlett> Ynon, what exactly is your support question?
[10:01] <Ynon> well
[10:02] <MrChopVG> k1l_:  i dont think so.. i am really new.. sorry
[10:02] <k1l_> MrChopVG: then do install it. and reboot and see if that works then
[10:02] <k1l_> maybe it already works with better fan control then
[10:03] <MrChopVG> k1l_: the command would be sudo apt-get toshset ?
[10:03] <k1l_> sudo apt-get install packagename
[10:03] <Ynon> my wifi connestion is slow on ubuntu 14.04
[10:03] <Ynon> firefox too
[10:04] <MrChopVG> k1l_: it says required kernel toshiba support not enabled.
[10:05] <MrBar> i really hate f*cking updates notifications, who hate it too?
[10:05] <Ynon> updates is very important
[10:05] <cfhowlett> MrBar, no profanity, no implied profanity.  you KNOW better.
[10:06] <cfhowlett> ikonia, enough rope | MrBar
[10:06] <ObrienDave> adios MrBar
[10:06] <Ynon> so why linux is barely none virus
[10:06] <Ynon> the answer is
[10:06] <cfhowlett> Ynon, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:07] <ddv> I never had a virus on Windowseither
[10:07] <ddv> pebcak
[10:07] <MrBar> heh
[10:07] <Ynon> cfhowlett u r kicking me off !!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:07] <ikonia> sorry for the slow response
[10:07] <cfhowlett> ikonia, thanks.
[10:08] <cfhowlett> Ynon, no I was suggesting you take your NON-SUPPORT question to the chitchat channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:08] <Ynon> did u read my question  cfhowlett
[10:08] <k1l_> MrChopVG: i dont have that laptop and i dont see what you see so please pastebin all output so people in here could help
[10:08] <halt2> Hi All, I have a BT mouse and keyboard, but they keep droping the connection when I do not use them, which will be not an issue if they are reconnecting when i stat to use it again but it does not, any suggestion what should i hack to make it work ? as it should be ?
[10:09] <MrChopVG> k1l_: alright thanks for the flep
[10:09] <MrChopVG> help
[10:09] <cfhowlett> !patience | Ynon, I did.
[10:10] <Ynon> thanks
[10:10] <Ynon> maybe .. i'm sorry
[10:11] <VincentD> I've just upgraded to Kubuntu 14.04 to be able to play with Docker.io, but I'm running a 32-bit kernel. I'm working on a netbook with a AMD C-70 CPU which should be 64-bit according to lscpu and the fact that I see lm in /proc/cpuinfo. So I've made an AMD64 Kubuntu USB drive and tried to boot it, but it says the kernel image is invalid. Does this mean the download of the ISO was messed up or that my CPU is incompatible?
[10:12] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | VincentD, did you 1. verify the .iso?   2. verify the usb?
[10:13] <VincentD> cfhowlett: Nope, I didn't. Thanks for the info!
[10:13] <cfhowlett> VincentD, happy2help
[10:19] <VincentD> cfhowlett: I grabbed the image with wget image ; halt instead of using && last night and the internet connection broke up. 443M was missing. That was pretty stupid, mystery solved ;)
[10:19] <cfhowlett> VincentD, torrents.  always.  IMHO.  torrents.
[10:20] <ObrienDave> VincentD, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[10:20] <cfhowlett> VincentD, because torrents will apply and verify md5sum to each bit as it transfers.  much more robust error checking and you can turn on/turn off, start later as needed.
[10:20] <VincentD> cfhowlett: I'm working on a hotspot network in France blocking everything but port 80 :S
[10:21] <cfhowlett> VincentD, no sympathy.  I'm in Beijing.  ALL the cool sites are blocked.  *but torrents works!*
[10:21] <ObrienDave> Ynon, so, what was your Ubuntu wireless support question again, please?
[10:21] <vitimiti> Hi
[10:21] <VincentD> cfhowlett: Really? I didn't try torrents, but I just figured it wouldn't work. That would be great!
[10:29] <Joe_knock> Hello. When I type sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin, it says the latest version is installed, but when I try to access it from localhost, I get a 404.
[10:30] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock, access "it"?
[10:31] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: Access phpmyadmin from the browser. localhost/phpmyadmin/index.php
[10:31] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock, I'd guess you configured localhost incorrectly
[10:33] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: Perhaps it is worth mentioning that I updated PHP and Apache recently too. They were updated from the PHP ppa
[10:33]  * ikonia shakes head
[10:33] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock, yeah that's worth mentioning.  :)  I don't PPA so best I go back to lurking now.
[10:33] <ikonia> Joe_knock: what does the apache logs show when you try to hit the page
[10:34] <ikonia> I suspect the re-write/re-direct rule for the 2.2 apache package is no longer valid in 2.4
[10:38] <Joe_knock> ikonia: How do I check the latest logs? I can't seem to get the latest info from the error log txt file.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: its a single line, so no need to pastebin
[10:46] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: The error.log file is showing the last error at 1+ hours while I keep hitting refresh on <IP_ADDRESS>/phpmyadmin/index.php
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:48] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-secure-phpmyadmin-on-ubuntu-12-04
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: what are you wanting to use phpmyadmin to achieve?
[10:50] <MrElendig> only way to secure phpmyadmin is to not install it in the first place
[10:50] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: I just wanted it for a simple interface to LAMP stack.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> MrElendig: or use iptables to only allow certain MAC addresses to connect to it :-)
[10:50] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: no, just no
[10:51] <Joe_knock> my /var/www/ shows phpmyadmin there weirdly.
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: can't do it via SSH?
[10:51] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: mac filtering just gives you a false sense of security, it is worse than doing nothing
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> MrElendig: it's not great but its something
[10:51] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: spoofing the mac is trivial
[10:51] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: Local dev machine here. Not sure I understand the need for SSH here?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> MrElendig: but the attacker would need to know the exact mac to spoof
[10:52] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: if you want any kind of security use a vpn if you need to connect to phpmyadmin from the outside world
[10:52] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: that is actually really easy to find
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: configuration of LAMP can be done via SSH
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> MrElendig: its over LAN so "outside world" isn't a factor here
[10:53] <MrElendig> ActionParsnip: well, as a general rule: never trust your lan either
[10:53] <Joe_knock> I wonder if my Apache conf file is lacking the phpmyadmin include :-/
[10:53] <MrElendig> specially if it is wifi
[10:53] <MrElendig> and really, phpmyadmin isn't that usefull in the first place
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: did the guide I gave help?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> MrElendig: it's for lazy users imho
[10:54] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: PHP isn't part of my main stack nowadays, so I need it for convenience sake.
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: I'd ask in #apache , may help too. Are there any recent YouTube videos?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: eg http://youtu.be/WPGCcRxUoOk
[11:00] <Joe_knock> I think I have version incompatibilities
[11:04] <Joe_knock> Thanks ActionParsnip. I went to the #apache channel now. localhost/phpmyadmin does work now, but it forces me to open a phtml page now.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: did you add a PPA by any chance?
[11:05] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: Yes. I added the PHP PPA to get an updated version of PHP.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: then that will be why
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: the version of phpmyadmin has been tested to work with the version of php in the repos
[11:06] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: So there is definitely conflicts then.
[11:06] <Joe_knock> aah, I thought so.
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: with the version made by "some guy online" yes
[11:07] <uhlm> how do i review apps in software center ?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: the one made by the Ubuntu team is known to work....so you may get issues using a different php which we have no knowledge of its compilation
[11:08] <Joe_knock> uhlm: You need an account firstly. Then you can write reviews in the software centre itself.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Joe_knock: if you want to stray from the official repos then results cannot be assured
[11:08] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: I'll try updating phpmyadmin from source.
[11:08] <uhlm> Joe_knock: so if i am on Mint i can't?
[11:08] <Joe_knock> ActionParsnip: Agreed. This issue is definitely self-imposed.
[11:09] <uhlm> (unless i get the ubuntu software center=
[11:09] <Joe_knock> uhlm: You can :-) Mint uses the same software.
[11:09] <Tim100> is gsmartcontrol tool accurate and good for monitoring hdd?
[11:09] <Joe_knock> You can probably install ubuntu software centre on mint too.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> uhlm: mint is not supported here
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> !mint | uhlm
[11:10] <uhlm> i know thx
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> uhlm: so why ask if you know?
[11:11] <dearcarr0t> anyone there please?
[11:11] <uhlm> because i was trying to rate an app on the site apps.ubuntu.com/
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> dearcarr0t: many :-)
[11:11] <uhlm> and there was no option on apps.ubuntu.com/ to let me review the app.
[11:11] <uhlm> not really that strange
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> uhlm: did you log in to the service?
[11:12] <uhlm> i did..
[11:12] <Tim100> can someone suggest a good hdd smart montorng tool for ubuntu?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[11:13] <dearcarr0t> When I use boot-repair ,I failed to fix my boot menu.Once reboot,it comes  the minibash of grub.
[11:13] <dearcarr0t> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8298888/
[11:13] <dearcarr0t> Here is the boot-info.
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> dearcarr0t: I fix that stuff using chroot from liveCD
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> dearcarr0t: omgubuntu has a guide named "sticking it to grub"
[11:14] <dearcarr0t> I am just talking  with my live CD.
[11:14] <Joe_knock> uhlm: It may be possible to rate it online too.
[11:15] <dearcarr0t> I followed the steps.But it didn't work.
[11:15] <uhlm> dont think so either.. so be it
[11:15] <uhlm> thx
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> dearcarr0t: bring up the guide, follw the steps
[11:18] <dearcarr0t> ActionParsnip: Ifailed many times.
[11:19] <Tim100> ActionParsnip so this smartmontools accurate ? i mean does it displays correct data regardng hdd?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> dearcarr0t: did you mount the Ubuntu system partition?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: yes, whyever would it not?
[11:19] <Tim100> ActionParsnip i asked because its really small, just 2 mb?
[11:20] <Tim100> ActionParsnip is it just like gnome disks?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: it uses libs you already have as well as the kernel
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: don't let install size fool you
[11:20] <dearcarr0t> ActionParsnip: I shall have another try and mount the Ubuntu.Thx!
[11:20] <Tim100> ActionParsnip ok , thanks for the link
[11:20] <ObrienDave> Tim100, you're used to Windows applications, yes?
[11:21] <Tim100> ObrienDave on windows i was using crystaldiskinfo, so it though if this smartmontools is equally good or not,
[11:21] <Tim100> *i
[11:21] <Tim100> thought*
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: if an ap needs lib-a and lib-b and lib-c and you have an app already installed which uses lib-c, why would you need to reinstall and redownload lib-c, its already in place
[11:22] <Tim100> ActionParsnip i see
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: this saves bandwidth and storage, each lib is also only loaded once into RAM when used but can be accessed by multiple running applivcatioms. This saves RAM
[11:22] <Tim100> its just so small, i will download it and see if it works better
[11:23] <Tim100> ActionParsnip i see, thanks for the info
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: using shared lib like this allows one update to affect all programs that use it, very efficient
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: windows doesnt use this model much and is wasteful
[11:24] <Tim100> ActionParsnip is this sufficient to detects even minor hdd faults, like bad sectors, reallocated sects, or a bad spin up time etc?
[11:24] <Tim100> ActionParsnip i see
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: hdparm may help too
[11:24] <Tim100> ActionParsnip hdparm?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> !info hdparm
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: it has a test feature too
[11:26] <Tim100> ok , i downloaded it and its workinjg fine ,though this gsmartcontrol has test feature too, what;s the difference in this and hdparm then?
[11:27] <Tim100> ActionParsnip also its saying hdparm is already installed on my system
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: different features. ?.
[11:27] <Tim100> ok
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Tim100: then read the man page and use it if it suits your ned
[11:28] <Tim100> does it comes as a default with gsmartcontrol? ActionParsnip
[11:28] <ObrienDave> Tim100, the main reason windows installs are so large is they place ALL of the files required in the archive for many different versions of windows. hence the file size.
[11:30] <ObrienDave> in Linux, you only need to D/L what is required to get your app working. shared libraries is what makes the files so small
[11:30] <newbsduser> how can i get df -kh output of which disk has biggest size?
[11:30] <Tim100>  ObrienDave i see
[11:31] <k1l> newbsduser: why dont you look in fdisk?
[11:32] <ObrienDave> Tim100, look in the windows manifest folder sometime. OMG thousands of folders and files for the same or similar versions of DLLs and such. freaking nightmare
[11:33] <Tim100> ObrienDave i see
[11:33] <Tim100> also windows uses registry system,s which are prone to errors
[11:36] <ObrienDave> point being, don't let the file size fool you into think the software is inferior. on the contrary, most apps are much more robust and since most code is open source, it can be examined by anyone at anytime
[11:36] <ObrienDave> *thinking
[11:37] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, "don't let the file size fool you ...".  I say that ALL the time.
[11:37] <Tim100>  ObrienDave i see, anyways thanks a lot for the info, i appreciate it
[11:37] <karab44> hello
[11:37] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, and someday i'll listen to you ;P
[11:37] <karab44> how to disable specified system keyboard shortcuts on particular app?
[11:37] <VincentD> I've just installed Kubuntu 14.04 64-bit. The live  USB key works perfect, but when the kernel loads after showing GRUB, I only get static on the screen. How can I  debug and solve this?
[11:39] <ObrienDave> static? meaning a garbled screen?
[11:40] <VincentD> ObrienDave: Yes. Dark in the middle, colored lines to the left and right sides.
[11:41] <ObrienDave> hmm, that does not sound like a sync issue
[11:42] <ObrienDave> can you upload a photo somewhere so we can see?
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:42] <ObrienDave> hey BluesKaj
[11:42] <BluesKaj> hi ObrienDave
[11:46] <karab44> I have the same shortcuts in my app that's in the Unity. How to disable Unity shortcuts for the time I use the app ?
[11:47] <karab44> is it possible to make active app/window exception?
[11:49] <acer> RE
[11:51] <karab44> I don't believe there's no people that use ubuntu for professional purpose
[11:52] <k1l> karab44: of course, no one can use ubuntu for professional purpose m(
[11:54] <k1l> karab44: why not change either unitys or "your apps" shortcut?
[11:55] <karab44> awwww you're starting to invent
[11:56] <vitimiti> I do use it for professional purpose and for free time purposes
[11:56] <iptable> there are lots of companies using ubuntu for professional purposes, as server and desktop actually
[11:56] <karab44> I don't want any compromises. I want to have unity shortcuts after I leave my app just right there where they are
[11:57] <geudrik> Wait, did he just say that there isn't anyone that uses ubuntu in production?
[11:57] <karab44> I want my app's shortcuts right where they are just when I launch it. It's so simple to understand for anyone who works with tools.
[11:58] <karab44> geudrik: if it's not configurable it's not comfortable then... :/
[11:58] <trijntje> karab44, what do you mean 'apps shortcuts right where they are' ?
[11:58] <karab44> I mean if it's ALT+CTRL+ARROW I want it ALT+CTRL+ARROW
[11:59] <geudrik> I think he means that someimes when you launch an app in Unity, the icon in the dock isn't the process that launches (so you end up with with a 'new' icon on top of the one you've locked to the dock). I've seen this happen with programs that utilize their own launcher
[11:59] <Ben64> then you need to change one of those
[11:59] <vitimiti> I understand he wants to keep his app's shortcuts and unity's shortcuts, but they interfere, so he wants unity's shortcuts to be disabled when, and only if the app is open. Am I right?
[11:59] <geudrik> karab44: that's 100% different than making the statement that nobody uses Ubuntu professionally
[11:59] <trijntje> karab44, ok, but some shortcuts are already taken by unity, so applications cant use it unless you disable those
[12:00] <k1l> karab44: changing desktop shortcuts doesnt make sense at all. its the app that is having to change the shortcuts
[12:00] <karab44> geudrik: stop arguing please.
[12:00] <karab44> k1l: that's rubbish
[12:00] <k1l> geudrik: he was just ranting, because its not all like he lonely wants to have it
[12:00] <k1l> karab44: no, that is common sense.
[12:00] <trijntje> karab44, why don't you just disable those shortcuts in unity if it bothers you?
[12:00] <geudrik> ^ that
[12:01] <karab44> it is not surprising then there's no big apps on ubuntu, sorry but this is true.
[12:01] <Ben64> that makes absolutely no sense
[12:02] <geudrik> o.O wat
[12:02] <k1l> if you want to (lets say) move a window to a different desktop it makes sense that this shortcut stays the same all the time. and not changes like which app got the focus now or is running.
[12:02] <trijntje> karab44, why don't you disable the unity shortcuts you don't like?
[12:02] <karab44> this is a simple thing - add exception for particular app
[12:02] <karab44> trijntje: because I want it damnit
[12:02] <k1l> karab44: stop blaming your bad concept on ubuntu. that makes you look not clever and not ubuntu.
[12:02] <geudrik> karab44: so do it? change some shortcuts and fix it.
[12:03] <karab44> geudrik: that's rubbish, not a solution
[12:03] <trijntje> karab44, ok, then if you want the shortcuts unity uses, don't disable them.
[12:03] <Ben64> this is a simple thing - don't pick existing keyboard shortcuts for your app
[12:03] <geudrik> -.-
[12:03] <karab44> I was working with many other systems and such conception was obvious but here I faced a wall.
[12:04] <trijntje> karab44, unity has a higher priority for catching keyboard shortcuts then other apps, that makes sense right? Imagine in windows if every app could steal the windows key or ctrl+alt+delete
[12:04] <iptable> karab44, you are being rude and agressive. I'm afraid most users are happy with the way things work and can be adjusted, therefore, being the only one out, we have given you workarounds that suit YOUR particular use.
[12:04] <geudrik> karab44: to give you the benefit of the doubt, can you try to explain again what your issue is? As clearly as possible
[12:05] <Tim100> is there a way to put desktop icon for an app using terminal?
[12:05] <iptable> karab44, and what trijntje said. In other OSes most system shortcuts cannot be 1. adjusted, 2. disabled, 3. controlled, 4. assigned to other uses. This is by design. alt+tab has to work no matter what app is foregrounding if it's configured as windows changer chortcut.
[12:05] <trijntje> Tim100, yes, I think alacarte can do that
[12:05] <geudrik> Tim100: http://askubuntu.com/questions/182700/how-to-make-a-clickable-terminal-shortcut-on-the-desktop
[12:06] <iptable> Tim100, you want to put a shortcut or add icon to a shortcut on the desktop?
[12:06] <ObrienDave> nap time. l8rs
[12:06] <Tim100> iptable yes
[12:06] <Tim100> usng terminal though
[12:06] <Tim100> *using
[12:06] <geudrik> Tim100: http://askubuntu.com/questions/182700/how-to-make-a-clickable-terminal-shortcut-on-the-desktop
[12:06] <iptable> Tim100, which one is it? add icon to existing one, or create new one?
[12:07] <geudrik> ^ terminal, use vim/nano/what ever
[12:07] <karab44> iptable: because I was asking about something specific.
[12:07] <iptable> karab44, something that is not present in current system because no one else wants it.
[12:07] <Tim100> iptable existing one
[12:07] <iptable> Tim100, shortcuts are just simple text files (.desktop extension). You can cat them to see what they look like. Create your own.
[12:07] <karab44> iptable: because there's no maya and 3dsmax users
[12:08] <iptable> Tim100, ok, for that, edit the .desktop file and add the "Icon=..." line in the file
[12:08] <iptable> Tim100, the Icon= needs to point to absolute path of the icon file (e.g. png file)
[12:08] <Tim100> iptable ok
[12:08] <Tim100> thanks
[12:08] <cfhowlett> karab44, there are plenty of foss alternatives, but if your mind and heart are set on maya/3dsmax NO ONE is stopping from jumping to windows.  do what works for you!
[12:09] <iptable> karab44, 3dsmax exists for ubuntu? I thought it's windows app only
[12:09] <karab44> iptable: that's the point
[12:09] <vitimiti> Tim100, you can change the icon by right clicking the desktop file -> Properties -> Click on the icon -> Choose the new icon -> Accept
[12:09] <Ben64> maya i know has a linux version, not sure how that relates to the question at hand though
[12:09] <maksimkaaa> hello, I am trying to decipher this error after a fresh ubuntu 14 upgrade, googling says it is a hardware issue, but I am not convinced since all other OS'es I installed do not report any issues on boot.. http://pastebin.com/sWuphd5d anyone knows what this means exactly ?
[12:10] <enchilado> u/43
[12:10] <iptable> karab44, to turn things around, if you asked Microsoft to make available launching linux apps on Windows and defining custom windows shortcuts to them, they would laugh at you. Linux has wine, that's true. It also has virtualbox, that's true. for windows 3d software, either use those with thei compatibility issues or boot to windows
[12:11] <karab44> okay, I am a bit dissapointed but first thing I'm gonna do is disabling some unity shortcuts... they simply interferee with my apps :/
[12:12] <Ben64> karab44: yep, thats the solution
[12:12] <karab44> iptable: what are you talkin about? you run windows on virtualbox
[12:12] <iptable> maksimkaaa, most likely bad HD and you just upgraded to a bad sector... run smart tests on hard drive first
[12:12] <karab44> so no matter what it's still windows
[12:12] <geudrik> is anyone here running 3.17-rc4 and having issues? Specifically, coming from 3.13.0 on 14.04
[12:12] <iptable> karab44, yes, and I did tell you that this is a possibility. Virtualbox 3d acceleration emulator is far from perfect though.
[12:13] <iptable> karab44, if you disable mouse integration in virtualbox btw, 99% of unity shortcuts will no longer work when you are pinned to the VM with your mouse.
[12:14] <_1_Jan-Eric> nerds!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:14] <karab44> That wasn't on my mind. I meant that if some system is more comfortable for professional users, then there is a reason to make professional apps for it.
[12:14] <cfhowlett> _1_Jan-Eric, wrong channel.
[12:14] <iptable> karab44, that's the sentence you should be taking to 3dsmax inventors, not ubuntu, don't you think?
[12:14] <_1_Jan-Eric> no right channel
[12:14] <cfhowlett> karab44, take it up with the actual producers of such apps.
[12:14] <vitimiti> Ubuntu is more confortable for most professional uses IMHO
[12:15] <cfhowlett> _1_Jan-Eric, this is ubuntu support.  ask ubuntu questions.  play anywhere else but here.
[12:15] <k1l> karab44: you are wrong on this. just ask the makers of that app why they dont support linux in general
[12:15] <karab44> iptable: actually I use Ubuntu/Linux designed apps, talking about 3dsmax or windows apps was something different
[12:15] <karab44> forget about windows apps, forget I said anything about windows, there was something different on my mind.
[12:16] <_1_Jan-Eric> oh sorry
[12:16] <iptable> karab44, uhm, now you just confused the hell out of the conversation. I am going to bail out of it.
[12:16] <Tim100> i installed vlc player , but i can;t find any icons of it? how do  i place a desktop icon of it?
[12:16] <vitimiti> If the person who made the Ubuntu app did it in a way that it interferes with Unity, it's more like the app's developer(s)
[12:16] <vitimiti> fault*
[12:16] <Tim100> i can only run it from terminal
[12:16] <Tim100> no entries nothing
[12:16] <Ben64> karab44: if you have conflicts with shortcuts, you can change them. why is this still an issue?
[12:16] <iptable> Tim100, try to reinstall.
[12:16] <k1l> karab44: and that theorteical topic suits better into the #ubuntu-offtopic. iptable vitimiti etc.
[12:16] <vitimiti> k1l, you are right
[12:16] <cfhowlett> karab44, ubuntu studio = xfce +ubuntu.  no unity.  no shortcut conflicts.
[12:17] <iptable> k1l, you do not need to tell me...
[12:17] <Tim100> iptable i installed it from software centre
[12:17] <karab44> Ben64: it's not a solution, ever tried to reprogram all vim shortcuts? It does have no sense at all!
[12:17] <Ben64> karab44: you're not making any sense
[12:17] <philinux> Tim100;~ use the dash type in vlc - then pin icon to launcher
[12:17] <iptable> Tim100, can you remove and install again? i.e. reinstall? looks like maybe something went wrong. either that, or it hasn't cached properly (yet)?
[12:18] <Tim100> iptable ok
[12:18]  * cfhowlett thinks we can now add this to the unending "Why won't my ubuntu do *** the way I want it to out of the box?"
[12:18] <Padawan> hi, i have a server and 30 machines and want to rsync a folder on my server to my 30 machines. In which side i woudl run rsync: the clients right?
[12:18] <zoundwave> Hello, my USB audio device (Steinberg/Yamaha UR22) cannot be detected by Ubuntu. The device is not supported on linux. Is there any way to install it?
[12:19] <iptable> Padawan, whichever you want
[12:19] <iptable> Padawan, simultanous? on clients. I would suggest running it in order on the server. at least your network/HDD won't be stuffefd
[12:19] <cfhowlett> zoundwave, if it's not supported your options are extremely limited. you ****might**** be able to install it to wine or you could try installing virtualbox + windows + drivers
[12:20] <Padawan> iptable: ok, i think i got it. gonna take a deep read into the man of it, ty iptable
[12:20] <zoundwave> Ahhh. I see. Alright then, thanks cfhowlett.
[12:20] <iptable> zoundwave, or browse the web for some 3rd party driver somewhere that might work. alternatively, if it is new, return it. there is only a very limited amount of USB sound cards not discovered on linux. it's strange in itself.
[12:21] <iptable> Padawan, no probs. yes. use all the -something switches you require. read through it all