[12:14] <dwidmann> farkr, given a moment I could make you a command to do it
[12:15] <farkr> thanks
[12:15] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: just remove and reinstall the kde meta package
[12:15] <dwidmann> ! paste | dwidmann
[12:15] <ubotu> dwidmann: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[12:17] <dwidmann> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1116/ | farkr
[12:17] <Linux_Galore> farkr: did you run  sudo  dpkg --configure -a
[12:18] <sleepy495> whats the difference between sudo nvidia-xconfig and sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-composite ?
[12:18] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: adds 3 lines to the end of the xorg.conf file
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: for the later command
[12:19] <dwidmann> sleepy495, --no-composite disables the X composite extension
[12:19] <sleepy495> should I use --no-composite or not
[12:19] <dwidmann> then again sleepy495, it's off by default, so there is no difference
[12:19] <sleepy495> some sites for installing say to do it, some say not
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: the extra lines tell it not to enable composite
[12:20] <sleepy495> is that good or bad?
[12:20] <dwidmann> I suppose the only time it would make a difference would be if you had composite enabled before you ran the command to reconfigure x
[12:20] <genii> composite = rca video out or composite = combination driver?
[12:20] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: depends on the cards, if your using the legacy driver because you have a 5200 or older card its wise to not enable composite
[12:21] <sleepy495> thanks all
[12:22] <genii> Timas Is the router responding in any manner at all? Eg: can you ping it etc
[12:22] <Minataku> Heya, genii
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> you can use the latest 8*** series nvidia driver with a gf4 or better but because shader support its a bit so so the fps is rubbish
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> is*
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> with the gf4 og 51200 cards
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> or*
[12:23] <Linux_Galore> with the gf4 or 5200 cards
[12:23] <Linux_Galore> bugger cant type
[12:23] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: what card do you have
[12:23] <sleepy495> fx 5900
[12:24] <Timas> genii: nope, so far no response besides windows detecting that the line is occupied
[12:24] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: yeah use the 8*** driver and dont disable composite, it should be fine
[12:24] <StingRay> Wooooow, stdin I tested Xrealvnc, x11vnc, rdp v5, Remoteadmin 2.2, tightvnc, realvnc, Freenx and I am really amazed with x11vnc's compression
[12:24] <jordo23> How does one get rid of the main KDE panel at the bottom of the screen?  I don't see  the option when I right click...
[12:25] <stdin> StingRay: it's quite good, yeah :)
[12:25] <Timas> jordo23: by default there's a hide button at the side somewhere
[12:25] <StingRay> It hardly goes over 5-6 kb with 1024x768 16bit, stdin
[12:25] <stdin> not bad :)
[12:25] <jordo23> Timas:  Can I delete it completely?
[12:26] <Timas> in kde you kinda need the panel I'd think..
[12:26] <Linux_Galore> jordo23: killall -9 kicker
[12:26] <StingRay> superb...I was very nervous about NX's resume problems...
[12:26] <stdin> jordo23: it's built in to KDE, but StingRay knows how to stop it from showing :P
[12:26] <jordo23> stdin: How do I get it back if I need to?
[12:26] <dwidmann> run the command kicker from a shell or from alt+f2
[12:27] <stdin> StingRay: do you remember that link you got to hide kicker ?
[12:27] <StingRay> Xrealvnc is miserable...stdin...
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> yeah, there is a command to tell kicker not to start you have to add it to the login process
[12:27] <StingRay> for you always ;), stdin
[12:27] <genii> Minataku Hey :)
[12:27] <StingRay> 1 mom, stdin
[12:27] <stdin> :)
[12:28] <StingRay> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings#_Getting_Rid_of_The_Panel , stdin
[12:28] <genii> Timas Because if it is still reachable somehow by perhaps ftp or telnet or so it could be possible to tftp some firmware to it
[12:28] <stdin> StingRay: cool :)
[12:28] <StingRay> some restrictions...? ;), stdin
[12:28] <Tamacracka> Guys... I'd like to know if there's any diagnostic tests I can take on my PC... to see if there's any problems with it.
[12:29] <Tamacracka> Is there any utilities/tools I can use to check and repair anything?
[12:29] <Timas> genii I just connected to it with wireless
[12:30] <Timas> and I"m in the admin console
[12:30] <genii> Timas It is best not to try firmware updates over wireless.
[12:31] <Timas> genii the main question has just become why its having trouble with the wired connection and not the wireless one
[12:31] <stdin> StingRay: I want a X session that's going to have 1 full screen window, but I want it in KDE, (otherwise it spurts out errors) and kicker just gets in the way. I was just reminded that I didn't bookmark that link when jordo23 asked how to hide kicker :P
[12:32] <Bluedog> hey guys
[12:32] <Bluedog> back again :)
[12:32] <karmikaze> mrrr
[12:33] <Bluedog> Tried using envy, however I get the same issue..
[12:33] <StingRay> stdin, so you need only space...I thought you have a security scenario.
[12:33] <Bluedog> x still fails to start with nvidia specified in xorg.conf, says kernel not found
[12:33] <zeemu> hi i'm new to  kubuntu, i havn't used linux for about 2 years (i ran debian for years and years etc) .. was wondering if there's anything like 'apt-get' on kubuntu
[12:33] <Bluedog> I ran apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[12:33] <Bluedog> still no joy
[12:33] <stdin> StingRay: nah, my users are too dumb to do any harm :P
[12:33] <karmikaze> zeemu ubuntu is debian
[12:33] <Minataku> stdin: Dumb users do the most harm
[12:33] <stdin> !de | karmikaze
[12:33] <ubotu> karmikaze: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:33] <zeemu> ok cool
[12:34] <StingRay> :D, cool, stdin
[12:34] <karmikaze> im not german
[12:34] <StingRay> I want some
[12:34] <genii> Timas Well, if you can at least get into it such as now, if the firmware update is somehow responible for that component not working, you could try to re-apply it I suppose. Tho the best way would *not* be over the wireless to do this
[12:34] <noiesmo> Bluedog, I use envy a couple things to check that might help you
[12:34] <zeemu> kamakazi: can you remind me how to get a list of packages?
[12:34] <stdin> Minataku: I'm the only user with sudo access, the worst they can do is mess up there home dir
[12:34] <Minataku> stdin: Never underestimate XD
[12:34] <stdin> Tamacracka: there isn't much you need to do, you can run fsck (look at "man fsck"), other than that, linux takes care of itself
[12:35] <noiesmo> Bluedog, I open konsole thype uname -r then check if you have the linux-headers that match uname-r in /lib/modules
[12:35] <noiesmo> */thype/type
[12:35] <Tamacracka> stdin is there any reason why my programs sometimes randomly just shutdown and why my PC freezes?
[12:35] <stdin> Minataku: really, one user the other day asked me to "remind him how to copy and paste"
[12:35] <Bluedog> ok , will do
[12:35] <Bluedog> thanks
[12:35] <Tamacracka> it's startin to remind me of windows again.
[12:35] <Minataku> stdin: rofl
[12:36] <zeemu> karmikaze: how can i get a list of packages available for download through apt-get
[12:36] <Minataku> Tamacracka: Maybe you have marginal HW
[12:36] <Tamacracka> marginal?
[12:36] <noiesmo> Bluedog, if not install a linux-image that you can also get the linux headers for.
[12:36] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: yeah have to be carefull, it sometimes installs the nvidia stuff for the kernel your not using by default, you often have to remove the old kernel to stop it booting
[12:36] <Tamacracka> can you explain?
[12:36] <dwidmann> lintian makes the kubxtra package cry =O
[12:36] <stdin> Tamacracka: I'd say look at the logs in /var/log/ to check for clues, and run memtest at boot to check your RAM for errors
[12:36] <Minataku> Tamacracka: Near failure
[12:37] <karmikaze> ummm theres too many zeemu, apt-cache search something
[12:37] <Bluedog> linux isnt as easy as they make out it now is, is it :P
[12:37] <Bluedog> im trying to get the livecd install working before using full linux
[12:37] <genii> <- away from keyboard a minute or 2 but returning
[12:37] <karmikaze> apt-cache search broswer
[12:37] <Bluedog> dont wanna kill my hdd for nothing
[12:37] <karmikaze> or whatever you are lookin for
[12:37] <farkr> do you think xubuntu running in a virtual machine running on windows2000, with 768mb ram would be fast enough?
[12:37] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: no desktop is really, I have issues with newbies on all the platforms
[12:37] <noiesmo> Bluedog, you could do this "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" that will install the headers if avail for yuor current kernel
[12:37] <Tamacracka> you know what.. i should run memory test, even though it takes for ever lol but i've only done it once.
[12:37] <Tamacracka> lol Linux
[12:37] <Bluedog> ok :D
[12:37] <Tamacracka> <- Newbie :P
[12:37] <StingRay> stdin, I'd better visit www.go-to-bed.org. What is your local time?
[12:38] <farkr> everyones a newbie at something :)
[12:38] <Tamacracka> yep that's why i openly accept it.
[12:38] <farkr> unless they don't even try, in which ase tehy're worse than noobs !
[12:38] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: one thing i have noticed is i get far less "I downloaded this app and now my machine just crashes" with Linux
[12:38] <stdin> StingRay: it's 21:38 here, just finished a LoCo team meeting :P
[12:38] <Bluedog> yeah :D
[12:38] <Minataku> farkr: Yeah. They're Windows users. *rimshot*
[12:38] <Minataku> j/k XD
[12:38] <Bluedog> ive used it before, just not on this machine
[12:38] <Tamacracka> brb gonna run mem test :P
[12:38] <Bluedog> ubuntu seems to hate 7800 GTs
[12:39] <farkr> kinda true since windows hides everything so you never have to learn anything, then again ubuntu is trying to do that too ;x
[12:39] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: no its works fine
[12:39] <dwidmann> hmm, but it likes my 7900gtx :)
[12:39] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: knowlege is your problem
[12:39] <Minataku> farkr: That's why Kubuntu is better, since KDE doesn't hide everything (and suck) like GNOME does
[12:39] <Bluedog> hehe
[12:39] <Bluedog> fair enough
[12:39] <stdin> StingRay: my eyes are blurry, it's not 21:38 it's 23:39 now :P
[12:39] <farkr> cant argue
[12:39] <Minataku> I mean, KDE is still pretty bad, but you know
[12:39] <Minataku> XD
[12:39] <StingRay> You are too far on west...Where is this?
[12:40] <Thehound666> Maybe you guys can explain what happened with one of my Kubuntu installs. My system clock was running half speed then I finally thought to run recovery mode
[12:40] <Bluedog> i was just shocked the livecd crashed on boot, taken me hours to get stuff going :D
[12:40] <StingRay> I just thought you live in the ocean. stdin lol
[12:40] <Thehound666> then it was fine
[12:40] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: I would say you have the driver but its for a kernel version your not actually booting
[12:40] <Timas> I got you all beat, its 00:39 for me
[12:40] <Bluedog> yeah :)
[12:40] <Minataku> Wed Jan 10 18:39:26 EST 2007
[12:40] <genii> Minataku is in my time zone :)
[12:40] <stdin> Timas: but I've been here since 8am :P
[12:40] <Minataku> genii: Just farther south than you are
[12:41] <Minataku> ^^
[12:41] <genii> Heh :)
[12:41] <matthew> hi
[12:41] <Timas> pfft, these days I got too much of a life to be able to do those kind of things :P
[12:41] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: the drivers are installed for a "set kernel version", I had a similar problem it installed the driver and a different kernel to match but when i rebooted it still used the old default kernel so the driver didnt work
[12:41] <genii> stdin Geez didn't see you here :)
[12:41] <Bluedog> gotcha
[12:41] <stdin> genii: heh :)
[12:41] <Minataku> genii: Any word on quickly smuggling that IPX out for me before anyone notices?
[12:41] <Bluedog> so if i check my uname -r matched i should be ok?
[12:41] <Tamacracka> if the memory test fails.. will i be able to log onto kubuntu?
[12:41] <Tamacracka> or should i back up all my files before the memory test?
[12:41] <dwidmann> wow, someone in the same time zone as me | minataku
[12:42] <Minataku> Tamacracka: Memtest runs separate on the bare hardware
[12:42] <Tamacracka> ok good
[12:42] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: yes, also look in adept and remove the old kernel if its not the marching one for the nvidia driver that should stop it booting the wrong kernel
[12:42] <Minataku> If it fails then all it means is that something is wrong with your RAM
[12:42] <Tamacracka> dont wanna lose my files :P
[12:42] <Tamacracka> good good :P
[12:42] <Tamacracka> alright thanks Minataku
[12:42] <Minataku> And would probably explain why both Windows and Linux both explode
[12:42] <Bluedog> thankya linux_galore :D
[12:42] <Minataku> Tamacracka: np
[12:42] <StingRay> Good night all | stdin, 2:00 am aproaching!
[12:42] <genii> Minataku Looks like all the rest is yours but that one... like I said before, he wants to give it to one of our original sysadmins from back in '93
[12:42] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: or just hit esc when you boot up right after the bios and select the other kernel
[12:42] <Thehound666> noone here knows why it happened either.
[12:43] <genii> Minataku He's the guy who signs my paycheques!! ROFL
[12:43] <Minataku> genii: They'll replace him while he's in the hospital
[12:43] <Minataku> XD
[12:44] <Thehound666> noone ever have the clock run half speed in Kubuntu?
[12:44] <genii> Minataku Still, the Sparc10 and so on are still pretty good hauls I think. I still need to find a box that holds it all so I can get it weighed etc
[12:44] <StingRay> stdin, I would advise you to follow my bright example in the next 1-2 hours. I will be here at 6:30 am your time. If I see you here I think you will be tired...It is up to you ;), stdin
[12:44] <Thehound666> the disorder survives across reboots until you run recovery mode
[12:45] <Minataku> genii: Heehee
[12:45] <Minataku> Well, try to convince him that the guy won't want the IPX
[12:45] <Minataku> Though I guess it's easy for me to say that because I have a silver tounge
[12:45] <Minataku> XD
[12:45] <stdin> StingRay: I probably will, I'll see you later, night :)
[12:45] <genii> Minataku Actually what I'm working on is convincing him not to get it bronzed atm...
[12:46] <genii> ROFL
[12:46] <Minataku> lol
[12:46] <StingRay> thanks, stdin. To you too!
[12:46] <genii> OK, need to go grab a cig & coffee.... away for a bit
[12:46] <Minataku> Tell him it'll be free advertising if he gives it to me XD
[12:46] <Minataku> I'll say I got it from "Wherever you work"
[12:46] <Minataku> X3
[12:46] <genii> :)
[12:46] <Timas> Thehound666: I've seen a lot about this on the ubuntuforums.. but can't recall the context, sorry
[12:47] <Thehound666> ok, so it's not Ku specific
[12:47] <Thehound666> I'll give it a search
[12:47] <Thehound666> thanks
[12:48] <Minataku> Thehound666: Try searching Google entirely, it's more than likely not specific to *buntu either
[12:48] <hawk_> can someone tell me where i can get WINE from
[12:48] <Minataku> !wine
[12:48] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:48] <dwidmann> wine.budgetdedicated.com
[12:49] <hawk_> thank you very much
[12:49] <Thehound666> Cedega ftw
[12:49] <Thehound666> runs more than WINE at least for me
[12:49] <hawk_> but is that one cost money
[12:50] <Thehound666> yes, the only downfall
[12:50] <hawk_> how much dos it cost
[12:50] <Thehound666> but better than paying Bill for an OS(Vista)
[12:50] <Dasnipa`> hawk_, but only $20
[12:50] <Thehound666> if it's kept updated
[12:50] <hawk_> thank you so much
[12:51] <Dasnipa`> $5 a month, and when you sign up you have to sign up for 4 months. but when you cancel you keep the program you just cant get latest update
[12:51] <Thehound666> I have to still run XP for a few odd games though.
[12:51] <Thehound666> FFXI for one
[12:51] <Linux_Galore> God! I love Vista, If you were going to write a nice looking OS then turn it into a total pain in the rear with lots of DRM crippling features you would be hard out to beat Vista
[12:51] <gekkobuntu> hello this is only a test... could you hear me ?
[12:51] <Linux_Galore> put*
[12:51] <Thehound666> WINE and Cedega both get to chracter selection and freeze
[12:51] <JosefK> loud and clear gekkobuntu
[12:51] <Thehound666> which is odd
[12:51] <matthew__> i need help, adept is running read only mode because apparently another thing is using the packaging but  have only konqueror, adept manager and konversation running. how do i see what is running in the background?
[12:52] <gekkobuntu> thanx its my first time at freenode
[12:52] <Linux_Galore> Codeweavers 6.0 is out with WoW support built in and an install wizard for newbies
[12:52] <Thehound666> ksysGuard
[12:52] <hawk_> realy you can play wow now
[12:52] <Thehound666> in the system menu
[12:52] <Linux_Galore> hawk_: yeppers
[12:53] <hawk_> WOW that is so cool
[12:53] <hawk_> lol pun
[12:53] <Thehound666> it is, now get FFXI out of compatibility: rubbish and I'll be happy
[12:54] <strayhikari> Quick question: Installing restricted codecs, the list of items to apt-get from the ubuntu docs, "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui" Will that work in Kubuntu? or Just in Gnome?
[12:54] <bobesponja> my trash is not working, everytime I try to move a file to Trash the progress dialg get stuck at 0%
[12:54] <hawk_> well i have to install wine.... so i wiil stay on but just not talking for some time
[12:54] <Thehound666> not sure why it's so hard, only obstacle I see is its device detection routines
[12:54] <Thehound666> k
[12:54] <Linux_Galore> Cedega is pretty evil they dont add anything to the community really, codeweavers send all their source code to the wine project
[12:55] <Linux_Galore> also you need a password to install Cedega now, not with Codeweavers
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> you can install codeweavers on all your machines at home, Cedega has a limited license install that password protected
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> and not "FOSS"
[12:57] <Thehound666> I'm only saying I'd rather pay Cedega than Bill Gates
[12:57] <Thehound666> Especially if Cedega solves the few remaining major issues
[12:57] <farkr> what do i have to do if i want to mount my fat32 partition under my normal user home dir?
[12:57] <Linux_Galore> Thehound666: you may as well pay bill gates, they do bugger all for FOSS
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> farkr: check you /etc/fstab file and see were its mounted first on your file system
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> your*
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> farkr: if its not there you may have to create an entry for it
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> farkr: then just put a link on your desktop
[01:00] <Bluedog> you guys rule :)
[01:01] <Bluedog> my question is
[01:01] <hawk_> back
[01:01] <Bluedog> why do the restricted modules preinstalled on the livecd not match the kernel?
[01:02] <Bluedog> uname -r gives 2.6.17-10-generic
[01:02] <Bluedog> if you look in synaptic, the installed versions are for a newer kernel
[01:02] <genii> Has anyone worked with crystalspace3D engine?
[01:02] <Bluedog> if you roll them back, THEN install the nvidia-glx driver, it works perfectly
[01:02] <Bluedog> doesnt make sense to me? :S
[01:03] <maxima> s
[01:03] <Minataku> wb, genii
[01:03] <genii> Minataku Heh :)
[01:03] <Minataku> genii: Just in case, note I was joking about injuring your boss (or anyone) XD
[01:03] <Bluedog> but yeah, thanks Linux_Galore :P
[01:03] <genii> Minataku Yeah I know LOL no worries
[01:04] <Minataku> k ^^
[01:04] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: whats the nividia kernel version it uses
[01:04] <willys_fueguino> hello. Could someone tell me a command to execute adept as user x with su privilegies??
[01:04] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: is it still 2.6.17 ?
[01:05] <matthew__> i cant use adept because something is using packaging. how do i stop it? only able to use read only mode for adept right now
[01:05] <genii> Or if not crystalspace3D does anyone know of a good open-source game engine to look at?
[01:05] <Bluedog> i think so, but its 2.6.17-15 if I remember correctly
[01:05] <Bluedog> im on .17-10
[01:05] <Bluedog> swapping out the restricted package for the older one made it all click
[01:05] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: aah dont attach the same release numbers on the kernels they are not the same
[01:05] <genii> Egdy default should be.17-10-generic yeah
[01:06] <Bluedog> yeah
[01:06] <Bluedog> so thats right?
[01:06] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: as long as its 2.6.17  your fine the last number "is the release version for that particular kernel"
[01:06] <Bluedog> I checked my kernel version, and had to roll back the restricted drivers package to make nvidia-glx work
[01:06] <Bluedog> ah right
[01:06] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: I did that too, there not the same release cycle
[01:07] <xwolf-> has anyone already upgraded x-server-xorg-core package? last time the upgrade was buggy and i had to downgrade..
[01:07] <Bluedog> so, it means the restricted package is from a newer kernel version than I have installed? Just checking my knowledge :)
[01:07] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: bit of an oranges and pears comparison thing
[01:08] <Bluedog> ah..
[01:08] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: ignore the last number when relating to the generic kernels
[01:08] <Bluedog> I cant help feel I'm missing something, this is all a bit new to me :P
[01:08] <hawk_> anyone know anything about wine
[01:08] <stdin> Bluedog: have you updated adept, or ran apt-get update ?
[01:08] <Bluedog> so why did reverting the restricted package to an older version make the nvidia drivers on synaptic suddenly work?
[01:09] <Bluedog> stdin: what is adept? :$
[01:09] <Bluedog> hehe
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: ok, now what you do is when you boot up press esc and select the kernel that uses the nvidia drivers
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: right after the bios screen
[01:09] <stdin> Bluedog: ahh, your in gnome aren't you
[01:09] <SheickSouth> Hi Any idea how I can install my standard widoze fonts in Kubuntu, please? Any link?
[01:09] <stdin> Bluedog: synaptic then
[01:09] <Bluedog> ah :) ok
[01:09] <Bluedog> I'm running a livecd at the moment linux galore, so I guess I can't do that
[01:10] <Bluedog> but on a proper install, I do that instead I assume
[01:10] <Bluedog> I've done things a bit backwards as its not on my harddisk
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: if you dont get the nvidia startup flash screen then configure your setup with   sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:10] <Bluedog> it works a treat now that i changed the restricted package
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: make sure you select dri  and nvidia when it shows up in the wizard
[01:11] <Timas> alright my last issue for the day: adept (or apt, if you prefer) is constantly listing 2 packages that have the status "Upgradable" and if I change the actual action to "Upgrade" throw a big nasty red "BREAK (Upgrade)" at me.. anyone have any idea how to fix this?  Packages are libcairo2 and the dev
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: aah so its working ??
[01:11] <Bluedog> change restricted package to match uname -r version, install nvidia-glx from synaptic also, run nvidia-xconfig, restart x, and it works
[01:11] <Bluedog> yeah, sorry, i wasnt very clear :D hehe
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: some times I find it bombs for some weird reason
[01:12] <vyoman> does anybody know what has been changed or fixed in todays updates?
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: so you removed the old kernel too ??
[01:12] <kkerwin> Hi. Where can I find out about the current status of the ATI fglrx issue?
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: sorry the kernel that doesnt have nvidia support
[01:12] <stdin> Bluedog: if you try and install the linux-restricted-modules-2.6..... package, dose it want to install a linux-image-2.6..... of the same version ?
[01:12] <kkerwin> And/or how to fix it?
[01:12] <Bluedog> ive not touched the kernels
[01:13] <stdin> Bluedog: in synaptic
[01:13] <vyoman> ahh i just had problems with my nvida card after updating
[01:13] <Linux_Galore> vyoman: how so
[01:13] <Bluedog> i just swapped out linux-restricted-modules-whatever to match my actual kernel version, then it worked. The guide said to choose the correct one, the problem was a newer one was already installed
[01:13] <vyoman> i usually have to reinstall the nvdia binary driver after xorg changes
[01:13] <Bluedog> Didn't make me change any images, etc
[01:14] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: yeah, wrong version though
[01:14] <vyoman> like todays, however something is very different the boot process slightly slower and the my two screens load differently
[01:14] <franx> good morning all
[01:15] <BluesKaj> evening franx :)
[01:15] <Bluedog> actually linux_galore, I think im talking crap
[01:15] <genii> Timas still here?
[01:15] <vyoman> i hate applying updates without knowing what they do (i know i keep saying that)
[01:15] <Bluedog> ive actually updated the linux-restricted-modules thing
[01:15] <Bluedog> not downgraded it
[01:15] <Timas> sure am genii
[01:15] <Bluedog> I misread the version for the name
[01:15] <franx> =]
[01:16] <franx> i think ksudo is broken also
[01:16] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: hmm
[01:16] <Bluedog> so I just needed to install the right (newer) restricted modules package for it to work
[01:16] <Bluedog> thanks a lot for your help :P
[01:16] <franx> and adept manager breaks every so often
[01:16] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: some times the kernel for the nvidia stuff doesnt have the same numbering
[01:16] <franx> i did get wpa and wireless working
[01:16] <vyoman> anyway for this with binary nvidia drivers (latest version) just run ok everything and run the installer again, this should work
[01:16] <franx> even with using a 2.4ghz
[01:17] <franx> it did confuse me why my internet stopped working when someone called me though
[01:17] <franx> haha
[01:17] <genii> Timas found some interesting info on your router:
[01:17] <genii> http://www.von-oppen.com/zope/wiki/main/WlanRouter
[01:17] <genii> http://isl3893.sourceforge.net/
[01:17] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: as long as it works, does glxgears work ?
[01:17] <genii> it has a serial port interface for instance
[01:17] <Bluedog> okay.. I guess it just needed updating then? I must've put the wrong one on initially..
[01:17] <Bluedog> good point,  shoulda checked that
[01:17] <Bluedog> I got the nvidia splash so assumed its accelerated
[01:17] <franx> anyway i have a question about the nvidia drivers and television
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: not always
[01:18] <Bluedog> ok
[01:18] <Bluedog> gears works.. how do you get the FPS up?
[01:18] <franx> i want to use this box as a mythtv box, but when i plug the rca out to the card and the box the machine loads up on the tv then i get the light blue screen and nothing i can read
[01:18] <Bluedog> sure it used to show that..
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: look in the terminal
[01:18] <franx> anyone know the best way to have a tv as your 'monitor'
[01:19] <franx> not as a second monitor etcc
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: run glxgears in a terminal it should show the fps speeds
[01:19] <Bluedog> doesnt seem to show
[01:19] <franx> i thought of maybe getting a vga-rca cable
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: do you see the gears rotating ?
[01:19] <hawk_> irc://irc.freenode.net/#winehq
[01:19] <Bluedog> yeah, gears is fine
[01:19] <hawk_> sorry
[01:19] <Bluedog> just no fps :)
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: did you run it in a terminal ?
[01:20] <Timas> genii: cool, but its already running a linux version so I don't need to do much with that :P
[01:20] <Bluedog> yeah
[01:20] <BluesKaj> mythtv is is for tivo type apps ...TVTime works for me
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: ooh dont type  glxgears &
[01:20] <genii> Timas on the first link he discusses a firmware bug which causes it to hang and there is a link to the firmware which fixes this etc
[01:20] <Bluedog> just sits with cursor on empty line..
[01:21] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: just  glxgears
[01:21] <BluesKaj> fgl_glxgears :)
[01:21] <genii> Timas As well some info on reverting it to the "stock" firmware and so on
[01:22] <Timas> aside of that, considering my issue with apt/adept isn't going to be fixed today, I'm heading out! alarm for work goes in about 4.5 hours ;)   Genii thanks a lot, these links will prove very useful
[01:22] <Timas> Later people!
[01:22] <genii> Timas Have fun sleep well
[01:22] <Bluedog> ah well, the fact the gears run makes me think its accelerated
[01:22] <jerry01> I'm trying to find a name that wasn't registered despite jerry actually being my real name
[01:23] <Bluedog> thanks a lot for your help :)
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: if it doesnt run its not working, its that simple
[01:23] <Bluedog> awesome :D
[01:23] <BluesKaj> how about jerciho
[01:24] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: I think fgl_glxgears is for ati
[01:24] <Bluedog> Yeah, not available
[01:24] <BluesKaj> Linux_Galore, dunno for sure but i think it's also a test for 3d accel
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog:  check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file make sure dri   is enabled
[01:25] <BluesKaj> glxgears is 2 dimensional  fgl_glxgears is 3d
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: you can also disable compiz if your not using beryl to get better fps
[01:26] <Bluedog> Linux_Galore: dri?
[01:26] <stdin> BluesKaj: glxinfo is a test for DRI (3D accell)
[01:26] <BluesKaj> the gears spin around in 3axes
[01:26] <Bluedog> seems noticeably faster since i restarted x, so I think its running
[01:27] <Bluedog> well, im sure
[01:27] <stdin> and glxgears is the test for non ATI cards
[01:27] <BluesKaj> ok
[01:27] <BluesKaj> it's just that the glxgears test is only a 2 dimension test on this pc
[01:28] <MarcC> how can I discover Windows machines behind my router and connect to them?
[01:28] <stdin> Bluedog: if "glxinfo|grep direct" shows "direct rendering: Yes" , then it's working
[01:28] <Bluedog> ball
[01:28] <Bluedog> s
[01:28] <Bluedog> says no :/
[01:28] <Bluedog> its doing something as i can run gears, I get the nvidia splash, and its a lot lot faster now...
[01:29] <stdin> BluesKaj: use the arrow keys to move the gears
[01:29] <BluesKaj> whereas the fgl_glxgears test contains the gears in six sides of a cube all spinning at once while the cube spins as well
[01:29] <stdin> Bluedog: aslong as it's working faster :)
[01:29] <Bluedog> is direct rendering easily enabled / required?
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   select dri in the modules section
[01:30] <karmikaze> anyone know how to configure yakauke?
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: or manually add a single line
[01:30] <genii> MarcC For accessing machines behind a router from over the internet you would normally need to set some things in the router to allow traffic to be directed thru it to whichever machine
[01:31] <MarcC> genii: I am behind the same router
[01:31] <Bluedog> thanks :)
[01:31] <MarcC> genii: is there some sort of router config I need to set up to see my peers on this router?
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog:   just add Load "dri"   to  /etc/X11/xorg.conf   in the modules section
[01:32] <genii> MarcC If all the machines then are getting internal IP addresses on the same segment, you should be able to connect to them without too much problems. The windows boxes just need to be running Windows Networking and then from the linux box you use Samba
[01:33] <MarcC> genii: thanks, I'll give it a try
[01:33] <Bluedog> should I enable kernel framebuffer?
[01:33] <slop> how do i format a windows NTFS drive (slave)?
[01:33] <slop> NTFS >> ext3
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: although i find running the dpkg-reconfigure  thing seems to also edit some extra stuff in for you ie v4l
[01:33] <genii> slop You want to convert the NTFS drive to ext3?
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: yes
[01:34] <stdin> slop: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1 (if hdb1 is the NTFS partition)
[01:34] <Bluedog> ta
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: turn  v4l and dri on when it gets the the modules section
[01:34] <slop> stdin: thanks :
[01:35] <genii> stdin The partition type would be good if it said Linux instead of HPFS/NTFS
[01:35] <slop> :)
[01:35] <MarcC> my system settings window does not show the buttons at the top (show all, etc.) - is this fixable somewhere? I have to re-open it every time because there is no back button.
[01:35] <stdin> slop: make sure you use the right partition, as it can't be reversed, and make sure the NTFS partition is not mounted
[01:36] <stdin> genii: the partition type is set my the file system on it
[01:36] <Bluedog> brb restarting x :)
[01:37] <stdin> MarcC: dose it have an "Overview" button ?
[01:38] <MarcC> stdin: nope, there are no buttons, just categories & icons
[01:38] <genii> stdin I've found it can get confusing if fdisk says one thing but the actual fs is something else entirely  :)
[01:39] <stdin> genii: when I've formatted (for example) a fat32 partition as ext3 with mke2fs -j, fdisk shows it as "Linux" after
[01:40] <franx> !nvidia
[01:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <ninnghizidha> Hello - I am on Kubuntu Edgy and i cant upload files to Flickr with Konqueror. Any ideas how to fix that? Am i the only one with that problem? it works quite well with firefox.
[01:41] <Bluedog> Completed that, still shows as turned off tho :(
[01:41] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: did you reboot the whole machine to restart X ?
[01:41] <Bluedog> nope, im on a livecd so im trying to iron out all the problems before formatting
[01:41] <Bluedog> restarting means i lose the lot :P
[01:41] <Bluedog> will be installing tomorrow though
[01:42] <Bluedog> now ive got x up and figured that out, I may just leave it till then
[01:42] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: yeah, have to make sure you tick the DRI [*]    box
[01:42] <Bluedog> I did, and v4l
[01:42] <Bluedog> its now written into the .conf
[01:42] <Bluedog> assuming I need a reboot
[01:42] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: the live CD has some limits though so it may not work
[01:43] <matthew__> hey is it possible to add a mouse gesture ext. to konqeror like we can with firefox?
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: no you log out or hit ctrl alt backspace
[01:43] <Bluedog> yup, i did ctrl alt backspace, then startx
[01:44] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: look in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file   should be a line with Load "dri"  if not add it
[01:45] <Bluedog> yeah, its there =(
[01:45] <Bluedog> I read that it's not supposed to be there for nvidia cards sometimes though, theres a seperate line that goes inside the device block in xorg.conf?
[01:45] <Bluedog> maybe im wrong though
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: I would say its an issue with a live boot
[01:45] <Bluedog> yeah :)
[01:46] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: works fine on all my machines
[01:46] <Bluedog> cool
[01:46] <Bluedog> thanks so much for your help man :P
[01:46] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: and there all nvidia even my laptop
[01:46] <Bluedog> nice
[01:47] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: feisty should setup the nvidia stuff by default in future (we hope)
[01:47] <Bluedog> awesome
[01:47] <Bluedog> ive met a lot of lost people with the same problems as me on forums via google, at least now I can tell them how I put it right :D
[01:47] <matthew__> hey guys, i got frostwire.deb now how would i quickly instal it?
[01:48] <Kr4t05> I'm having problems using the LiveCD to resize my linux partition.
[01:48] <MarcC> how do I start samba?
[01:48] <Kr4t05> QTParted hangs at "Scanning all disk partitons"
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> matthew_ :sudo dpkg -i frostwire*.deb
[01:49] <Linux_Galore> matthew_: or just click on it
[01:49] <matthew__> ty
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> matthew__: install kpackage, it makes life easy
[01:51] <matthew__> ah ok, right click -> install package. thanks, just clickign on it opened it in windows with 3 files
[01:52] <Bluedog> night guys, thanks again
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> matthew__: if you have kpackage installed and you click on a .deb it should ask you if you want to run the installer (doesnt for me because i have it hard set)
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> l8ter Bluedog
[01:55] <hawk_> dos aircrack work on kubuntu
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> hawk_:  cant see why not it runs on Linux
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> hawk_: http://freshmeat.net/projects/aircrack/
[01:57] <muesli_> hey guys
[01:57] <hawk_> ok just need to see
[01:57] <Amadeo> Anyone happen to have a Plantronics DSP-500 and have it fully working in Kubuntu?
[01:57] <muesli_> when starting firefox, it displays me a message, telling me that it couldn't find "/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.html"
[01:57] <muesli_> am i missing some package?
[02:00] <Linux_Galore> muesli_: yeah, that file
[02:00] <Linux_Galore> hmm
[02:00] <muesli_> Linux_Galore: that file isn't a package
[02:01] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: besides it doesn't show up on packages.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <mueslix> so i'm wondering if it's a missing dependancy or if there's some other borkage
[02:01] <sleepy495> How do I enable AIGLX in x.org 7.1?
[02:02] <stdin> sleepy495: edgy?
[02:02] <sleepy495> yes
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: actually it is lol,   lookup  firefox in adept make sure    mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb  is installed
[02:02] <stdin> sleepy495: it's easy :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy
[02:03] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: it is
[02:03] <stdin> mueslix: it's in the package ubuntu-docs
[02:03] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: have you installed your own version of ff
[02:04] <Linux_Galore> stdin: weird place to put it
[02:04] <stdin> Linux_Galore: yeah, I had to dig around a but to find it :P
[02:05] <Linux_Galore> stdin: doesnt show up on my machine when i search for a matching file within the packages
[02:05] <hawk_> i am sorry but how do you use the makefile command
[02:05] <mueslix> stdin: usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales-ubuntu/index-en_GB.html is in ubuntu-docs, right?
[02:05] <mueslix> but not the file i'm looking for.
[02:05] <mueslix> correct me if i'm mistaken.
[02:09] <matthew> i get this message when trying to instal kpacage with adept: there as an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. what should i do?
[02:09] <stdin> mueslix: humm, let me have another look
[02:10] <Linux_Galore> stdin: I dont have it either but ff works fine
[02:10] <hawk_> what dos this mean ..... install: missing destination file operand after
[02:10] <stdin> mueslix: the only thing like it I can find is "edubuntu-artwork: usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.html"
[02:11] <Linux_Galore> mueslix:   if your lazy just type   sudo  touch /usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.htm
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> mueslix:   if your lazy just type   sudo  touch /usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.html  oops
[02:12] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: well, that's not exactly the point. if it's an error one should fix it ;-)
[02:12] <stdin> mueslix: maybe this chould work too "sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-homepage" and it should be set to "/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/index.html"
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: yeah but its rubbish
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: I dont even have that file
[02:13] <Tox> is there any program to learn English in kubuntu ?
[02:13] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: of course i can just change firefox's homepage ;-)
[02:13] <mueslix> anyways, i'll see if i can find it still and will file a bug report.
[02:13] <mueslix> just wanted to check if it's some weird borkage. thanks guys
[02:17] <matthew> how do i fix adept could not commit changes error? i have full admin access.
[02:17] <matthew> just trying to instal kpackage
[02:18] <Linux_Galore> sudo  apt-get install kpackage
[02:19] <Linux_Galore> if that fails run  sudo dpkg  --configure -a  then   sudo apt-get update   then  apt-get install kpackage
[02:20] <Linux_Galore> mattew: also turn adept off if your using apt-get at the command line
[02:20] <matthew> ok, its working now that i use konsole and type command line.
[02:21] <matthew> but would that fix future error message like that when tryign to use adept again?
[02:21] <Linux_Galore> matthew: run the first two steps in my previous fix
[02:22] <matthew> ok will give it a try, ty very much.
[02:24] <karmikaze> can someone please tell me what this weather app is:    http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=38718&file1=38718-1.jpg&file2=38718-2.jpg&file3=38718-3.jpg&name=Yakuake-Iced
[02:24] <phil_> g
[02:25] <TheDebugger> karmikaze: superkaramba i think
[02:25] <karmikaze> ta
[02:26] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: its Crystal Weather applet running under super-karamba
[02:26] <karmikaze> ty
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6384
[02:27] <karmikaze> nice
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> sorry Liquid Weather applet ro be more exact
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> to*
[02:28] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: if you look on the left hand side click on karamba
[02:28] <karmikaze> hm
[02:29] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: should show all the applet stuff you can run under super-karamba
[02:29] <karmikaze> cool
[02:29] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: super-keramba can download and install the applets for you automatically, it has a built on applet search and install thing
[02:30] <karmikaze> ooh
[02:30] <karmikaze> nice
[02:31] <karmikaze> yeah
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: you may have to turn superkaramba of though when playing games
[02:31] <karmikaze> oh
[02:31] <karmikaze> well doesnt matter, everything else is broken on here :P
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: it can create graphical conflicts with games that want to use all the resources they can
[02:31] <karmikaze> nod
[02:32] <karmikaze> beryl is why i dont play games :P
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: karamba is a bit intensive when it refreshed some of the applets
[02:32] <karmikaze> ok
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> refreshes*
[02:32] <Thehound666> think I found the evil process that did it and just replaced it with something else for the purpose
[02:32] <Thehound666> ATI's display drivers
[02:33] <Thehound666> using the open ones now
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: it will work better in kde4 though its better intergrated
[02:33] <karmikaze> nod
[02:33] <karmikaze> the install doesnt seem to work
[02:33] <karmikaze> it just brings up the website
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: yeah you may have to manually install some of them
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: some have a setup script you have to run ie region
[02:34] <karmikaze> hrm
[02:34] <karmikaze> ok
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: I dont run it because it feels a bit too hacky for me
[02:35] <karmikaze> sure does heh
[02:35] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: then again if your running xgl its going to be super hacky lol
[02:35] <karmikaze> i dunno whats up, most of my finer graphics stuff seems tobe broken, and update is prompting to remove my nvidia-glx which is making me nervous
[02:36] <Thehound666> use the open source drivers anyone who uses ATI cards
[02:36] <karmikaze> ohhh
[02:36] <hawk_> what are some cool stuff that i can get for this os
[02:36] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: means you still have the none nvidia kernel installed, remove it and it will stop that
[02:36] <Thehound666> ATI's own just went psycho on me I found out
[02:36] <karmikaze> actually now that im looking it seems it doesnt know the name of my card anymore
[02:37] <karmikaze> glxinfo i mean
[02:37] <karmikaze> something got buggered big time...
[02:37] <karmikaze> oh well guess updating cant make things any worse than they already are...
[02:38] <matthew> adept is failign to laod for me. i didnt even get to enter password. any idea what is wrong?
[02:39] <angrydill> q
[02:43] <mueslix> hm
[02:43] <mueslix> after rebooting, kdm shows up on both of my screens and everything's fine. as soon as i login the left screen turns of and kde starts up on one screen.
[02:43] <mueslix> what could be wrong there?
[02:46] <matthew> wish i could help but im really really new to this os
[02:47] <pip`> how does one decompress a rar file in kubuntu ?
[02:47] <ninnghizidha> install rar-unfree
[02:47] <ninnghizidha> :)
[02:50] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: do you have two screens setup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:50] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: yes and it was working till this reboot
[02:51] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: as mentioned, kdm still shows up on both screens properly
[02:51] <mueslix> as soon as i login and the splash screen shows up it's disabling the left monitor
[02:51] <Thehound666> I put in a 9250 on the advice of you guys but I overlooked the driver as the source of my issues. Seems sorted by using the open source driver
[02:52] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: so you have Identifier "Screen0"  and Identifier "Screen1" in the xorg.conf  file
[02:52] <mueslix> i got nvidia's twinview
[02:52] <mueslix> not the real xinerama
[02:52] <Linux_Galore> mueslix:can you check for me
[02:52] <mueslix> nope i do not therefore
[02:53] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: then thats your problem you only have a setup for one screen
[02:53] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: but you know how twinview works?
[02:54] <phil_> im new to linux is there a simlpe faq for xgl or somthing similar?
[02:54] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: so shall i just add a fake second screen or what?
[02:54] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: you mean "dual monitor"  yes
[02:54] <mueslix> nope, i mean nvidia's twinview. which is not the same as xinerama
[02:54] <hannah_> how does one improve the look of fonts displayed on a notebook lcd screen?  text looks coarse and choppy.
[02:55] <stdin> !xgl | phil_
[02:55] <ubotu> phil_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:55] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: brb
[02:55] <stdin> phil_: do you have an avidia or ATI card?
[02:56] <phil_> nvidia, kinda old though
[02:56] <phil_> geforce 2 ithink
[02:56] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: so what do you suggest? just adding a fake second screen?!
[02:57] <angrydill> hannah - Do you know if "anti-aliasing" is turned on in the KDE Control Center (Apperance > Fonts)?
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> mueslix:
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> Option "TwinView" "true"
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> - Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT, CRT"
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> - Option "TwinViewOrientation" "LeftOf"
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> - Option "MetaModes" "1280x960,1280x1024"
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: is that in xorg.conf
[02:57] <stdin> phil_: you need the binary nvidia driver for XGL, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:57] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: yup, that's what i got
[02:57] <angrydill> Anti-aliasing smoothes the fonts on screen
[02:58] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: and as mentioned, x11 knows both screens, otherwise kdm wouldn't properly show up on both screens
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: it will also fail if there isnt enough ram on the card
[02:58] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: the trouble starts when kde starts up
[02:58] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: uhm, it has been working for several years now
[02:58] <mueslix> up to this reboot
[02:58] <angrydill> Also, if you aren't using the full (highest) resoultion on the Lcd, fonts may look distorted
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: kdm uses less ram than the desktop
[02:58] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: gnah, don't try to bullshit me :D
[02:59] <zograf> How to compile mplayer for kubuntu 6.10? (with support ass subtitles) Give the reference on "howto" please.
[03:01] <Delphinus> does amarok need write access to read the tags off mp3 files please?
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: check the logs, see what error it spits out
[03:01] <stdin> Delphinus: no, not to read
[03:02] <Delphinus> for some reason adding mp3s from a read only network share it wont get the artist information :(
[03:02] <hannah_> how does one improve the look of fonts displayed on a notebook lcd screen?  text looks coarse and choppy.
[03:03] <angrydill> hannah - Do you know if "anti-aliasing" is turned on in the KDE Control Center (Apperance > Fonts)? Anti-aliasing smoothes the fonts on screen. Also, if you aren't using the full (highest) resoultion on the Lcd, fonts may look distorted
[03:03] <Thehound666> when you guys are ready, more n00b questions, well just 1.
[03:04] <Thehound666> any idea how to run a .jar executable under Kubuntu?
[03:05] <Thehound666> works fine under Windows but haven't made it work so far here
[03:05] <angrydill> Has anyone here used kmail as a client for a Dovecot IMAP server?
[03:05] <stdin> Thehound666: .jar is Java, so you need to install the SUN Java JVM
[03:06] <Thehound666> can't say I have
[03:06] <Thehound666> the alternate JVM from the repository is not good enough?
[03:06] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: now, interestingly enough a reboot fixed it
[03:06] <Thehound666> works for my browser ok
[03:06] <pip`> MS's day are  numbered  !
[03:07] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: hmm
[03:07] <pip`> wow Edgy takes a long time to install
[03:07] <stdin> Thehound666: you can try it and see: java -jar filename.jar
[03:07] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: wasnt loading a module
[03:07] <Thehound666> ok from Konsole I assume
[03:07] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: nope, checked that. nvidia module was loaded fine and the dependancies were fine too, since i just ran depmod -a to be sure.
[03:07] <rance> is anyone a sound expert, I've tried two different sound cards and no matter what I do, I can't get sound from either of them, but both sound cards are properly detected at boot and the correct modules loaded, channels arent muted, but still no sound.
[03:07] <stdin> Thehound666: yes, you assume correctly :)
[03:07] <pip`> pip pip purray!
[03:07] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: no clue what it was, but it def. wasn't the xorg.conf
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: OS weirdness lol
[03:08] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: nor the ram ;-)
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: should say in the logs though why it failed
[03:09] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: that's the thing. it _didn't_ fail. x.org booted up nicely with two screens.
[03:09] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: kde disabled one of them on _purpose_
[03:10] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: so the fix is check xorg,conf and reboot lol
[03:10] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: sounds like windows
[03:10] <angrydill> Rance, In older (3.1?) versions of KDE, the "aRts" daemon used to interfere with my ability to get sound out of non-KDE apps.  I don't know if that's still a problem, but kill-ing the daemon got them to work
[03:11] <rance> I cant get any sound from any app, kde or otherwise
[03:11] <mueslix> any clue how i can change konqueror's default fileview to detailed list instead of icons?
[03:12] <Thehound666> is sun's Java as bad for Linux as Windows?
[03:12] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: dont laugh about the ram, I had one occasions were twinview worked, did an updated install edited the xorg.conf file and only one screen would work,  change the resolution down one setting and it worked
[03:12] <Thehound666> it didn't like my Java
[03:12] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: now that is possible.
[03:12] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: logs showed the card was running out of ram
[03:12] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: what's not possible is: if kdm already shows up, it will eat exactly as much ram as kde.
[03:12] <mueslix> a pixel is a pixel
[03:13] <mueslix> (talking about ram on the graphics card of course, not general ram)
[03:13] <Bal0o> hey again
[03:14] <angrydill> I run my checkbook app on Sun Java 1.4 on Mandrake and Kubuntu, and It's been rock stable.  Eclipse IDE too.
[03:14] <Bal0o> I have a quick Q. Is there any point using 64bit ubuntu atm? I've heard bad things about compatibility/drivers and the like, so should I stick to 32bit?
[03:14] <Bal0o> are there any big benefits to 64bit..
[03:15] <stdin> mueslix: try changing/adding "ViewMode=konq_iconview" to "ViewMode=konq_treeview" in ~.kde/share/config/konq to get the list view
[03:15] <angrydill> Bragging rights... for a little while ;)
[03:15] <stdin> Bal0o: if you don't have 4GB+ RAM, 32bit is better for you
[03:16] <Bal0o> ok, thx :)
[03:16] <stdin> Thehound666: SUNs java isn't "bad" for linux
[03:16] <Bal0o> this is so much better than the last time I installed mandrake, back in the day :P
[03:17] <Bal0o> just trying to choose between ubuntu/kubuntu, or both, obviously
[03:17] <stdin> Bal0o: yes, much
[03:17] <angrydill> KDE can do everything Gnome can, and more! /me dodges flames
[03:18] <stdin> angrydill: you won't get flamed for KDE love in here :)
[03:18] <stdin> Bal0o: the desktop install CD is also a live CD, so you can test it out before installing it
[03:19] <Bal0o> nice one
[03:19] <Thehound666> I don't understand why people do flame.
[03:19] <Thehound666> It's pretty and light
[03:21] <Thehound666> Windows love you might get flamed for
[03:21] <Thehound666> lol
[03:22] <Linux_Galore> Windows: me love you long time only $5
[03:22] <Thehound666> lol
[03:23] <Thehound666> I'd fully switch if we had the gaming support
[03:23] <matthew> hey guys is it possible to get mouse gesture in konqueror? or do i have to use FF?
[03:23] <Linux_Galore> Thehound666: Ive got WoW running now thank to Codeweavers 6.0
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> all i have to add is that kde is better on resources at 3.5.5 than gnome is at 2.16.  the gnome team still wasn't able to catch up, and kde 4 is fast approaching, which will be excellent
[03:24] <Linux_Galore> "with sound"
[03:24] <Lam_> my second hard drive has bad sectors that corrupted the linux partition and i want to somehow fix this. what's the best approach?
[03:24] <angrydill> Anybody use Cedega for Windows gaming on Linux?
[03:24] <matthew> how do get codeweavers?
[03:24] <Jucato> matthew: mouse gestures are in System Settings -> Accessibility -> Input Actions.
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> angrydill: not until i can play the longest journey flawlessly.
[03:25] <Thehound666> Cedega is good software but not free and they don't contribute all their code
[03:25] <Linux_Galore> matthew:   www.codeweavers.com  or <cough> bittorent <cough>
[03:25] <Thehound666> still does not work with certain games though
[03:25] <matthew> ty
[03:25] <Linux_Galore> Thehound666: try none because they are not GPL anymore
[03:26] <Linux_Galore> Thehound666: also its not based on wine anymore because of that fact
[03:26] <matthew> ok another question, is there bittorrent built in for kubuntu?
[03:26] <Thehound666> Ktorrent
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> or azureus if you're a masochist.
[03:26] <Thehound666> lol
[03:26] <stdin_> Lam_: when the partition is not mounted use: sudo fsck -f -c /dev/hdb1 (if hdb1 is the partition)
[03:26] <matthew> ty found it
[03:26] <Thehound666> Azureus is good for a dedicated box because it does everything well
[03:27] <Thehound666> it's just a pig
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> yes
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> I find azureus is faster than ktorrent still but uses heaps more resources
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> than ktorrent
[03:27] <kubuntero> can Kopete handle cross IM protocols?
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> if i were to run a box to JUST download torrents, i'd use azureus
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: it handles most of them
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> but i do so miss the rss features of utorrent
[03:28] <Thehound666> myself I use my boxes for everything and ktorrent is more than good enough
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> Daisuke_Ido: ktorrent now has rss
[03:28] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: THere are only two that I know of :)
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> every time a new ep is released, BAM, automatically downloaded
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> ...really now.
[03:28] <kubuntero> AIM and ICQ
[03:28] <kubuntero> YAhoo and MSN
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> Daisuke_Ido: its in the new unstable branch
[03:28] <Thehound666> yup 2.1 beta does
[03:29] <Thehound666> it's not allowed at all trackers yet because some do not allow release candidates
[03:29] <Thehound666> or betas
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: I use gaim for yahoo and msn
[03:29] <Thehound666> 2.1rc1 now
[03:29] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: I don't think that Gaim handles those
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: gaim will do yahoo/msn//irc  and a few others
[03:29] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: HOld on
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: gaim even does Yahoo chat rooms
[03:30] <kubuntero> I'm talking about using a yahoo account to speak to someone on MSN
[03:30] <stdin_> kubuntero: kopete works with (amongst others): yahoo,msn,jabber,google talk,icq,ric ...
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> stdin: yeah but not the chat rooms
[03:30] <kubuntero> You know that Yahoo and MSN signed an agreement for cross protocol chat?
[03:30] <stdin_> kubuntero: you can be logged in on more than one account at the same time too, yes
[03:31] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: yeah, Ive never tried that, I think its just a single login thing
[03:31] <Thehound666> I actually like Kopete
[03:31] <kubuntero> stdin_: NOt what I'm talking about :)
[03:31] <stdin_> It even imports all of your contacts
[03:31] <Lam_> stdin: ok my drive is starting it's scan. hopefully it'll work because i've tried pretty much everything. i'll get back to you. thanks
[03:31] <Thehound666> this is one of the few OS I like the preinstalled software on
[03:31] <kubuntero> Thehound666: Enjoy it one of my most hated K programs
[03:31] <kubuntero> stdin_: Right I can see that it does cross ICQ AIM
[03:31] <Schuenemann> anyone knows where amule saves downloaded files?
[03:32] <kubuntero> I'm logged into ICQ and I can see my AIM list
[03:32] <stdin_> Lam_: It will take a while to complete, so just relax and give it time :)
[03:32] <kubuntero> Can it do the same with Yahoo?
[03:32] <Thehound666> why is Kopete so bad? even webcam works
[03:32] <Thehound666> and it's stable
[03:32] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: you can login to all of them at the same time
[03:32] <stdin_> kubuntero: yes, all your contacts from your account will be imported and displayed
[03:33] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: I'd rather stay the hell off of MSN
[03:33] <kubuntero> Nearly everyone i knwo on there I'd rather not talk to
[03:33] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero:yeah, Ive stopped using Spamsn
[03:34] <Thehound666> meh better than Stalkhoo if you've been in their chats even once
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: Ive been using the google chat lately between the offices
[03:34] <kubuntero> Google chat is great
[03:34] <kubuntero> Large factor why YAho and MSN gave up :)
[03:35] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: with google chat you can have your own local server setup so you dont have to relay through google just to PM down stairs
[03:35] <kubuntero> I know ;)
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: I dont trust MSN and Yahoo, they will happily hand over all your data for no logical reason to anyone who asks for it
[03:37] <kubuntero> Regardless I have two teachers on MSN who I'd love to chat to through Yahoo
[03:37] <Thehound666> yeah but legally questionable stuff I use IRC+SSL+SSH+Fish
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> right now there is a guy sitting in prison in china because he is a pro democracy supported getting beaten up and tortured thanks to Yahoo
[03:38] <Jucato> hm... getting -offtopic guys
[03:38] <Thehound666> lol I'm in there if they want to follow
[03:38] <Schuenemann> MSN sucks
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> amen
[03:39] <Thehound666> I meant
[03:39] <Thehound666> !offtopic
[03:39] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:39] <Thehound666> I'm in there too
[03:39] <Thehound666> :)
[03:39] <Schuenemann> I would, but it's almost midnight
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> i'd even rather use the AIM protocol (even on windows i refused to actually use the aim client, opting for gaim instead)
[03:39] <endo602> can someone help me set up an ident?
[03:40] <stdin_> endo602: why do you need it?
[03:40] <Linux_Galore> endo602: ??
[03:40] <kubuntero> endo602: Press Tab?
[03:40] <Daisuke_Ido> but after switching to kubuntu, i've gone with kopete, as it's a fine client that works well with everything i need
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> I dont like the UI on kopete
[03:41] <Schuenemann> me neither
[03:41] <kubuntero> I don't like loads of crap on Kopete but It's still a baby so I give it teething marks
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> its amazing konversation has the UI right (they basically copied gaim)
[03:42] <Lam_> i love konversation
[03:42] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: Konversation?
[03:42] <Lam_> it looks better than mirc, but it's not as useful imo
[03:42] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: irc client
[03:42] <Schuenemann> I agree
[03:42] <Schuenemann> mirc is more useful
[03:42] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: wait till  more plugins appear
[03:42] <kubuntero> I know I'm using it :-) Just trying to see how it releates to gaim
[03:42] <Schuenemann> I hope so
[03:43] <kubuntero> stdin_: remember lines on Alt+tab?
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: were talking about the UI in kopete and gaim
[03:43] <Schuenemann> and I hope nobody makes that stupid plugin that message the channel with the sound he's using
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: konversation is more like gaim
[03:43] <hawk_> well bye everyone.... thank you for your help
[03:43] <Schuenemann> messages*
[03:43] <Lam_> i like kopete's gui, but gaim has so many more features :(
[03:43] <Lam_> i'd rather use kopete but gaim's just more useful
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> Lam_: its more mature
[03:43] <Schuenemann> since I only have msn now, I'm using amsn
[03:44] <Schuenemann> but its GUI is VERY slow
[03:44] <stdin_> kubuntero: not quite :( , although it's supposed to, but it may be missing some lib somewhere, but it dose on switching desktops
[03:44] <Linux_Galore> give it time, konversation and kopete will add the features that users ask for
[03:44] <Lam_> stdin_: do you have an estimate as to how long it should take to run fsck -f -c? i calculated 15 hours :-/
[03:44] <kubuntero> stdin_: complain to Sho_ :)
[03:45] <stdin_> Lam_: It depends on the size your partition
[03:45] <Lam_> stdin_: mine's roughly 170GB
[03:45] <kubuntero> Rob-West: From many years of experince I can tell you it hates you too
[03:45] <stdin_> kubuntero: I'm gonna file a bug report anyway, because i _really_ want that feature :P
[03:46] <kubuntero> The world and it's dog wants that feature
[03:46] <Linux_Galore> Lam_: it depends one the hardisk how fast fsck happens
[03:46] <stdin_> Lam_: could take a *long* time, have a nap
[03:46] <Linux_Galore> Lam_: also ext3 isnt the fastest to run fsck anyway
[03:47] <stdin_> Linux_Galore: it's checking for bad blacks, it's gonna take a while :p
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> stdin_:  rebuilt my ZFS partition (120Gb)  dam its fast
[03:48] <Linux_Galore> stdin_: totally blows ext3 away for fsxk
[03:48] <Linux_Galore> fsck
[03:49] <stdin_> Linux_Galore: ZSF, don't remember that one?
[03:49] <stdin_> XFS maybe, but noy ZFS
[03:49] <mueslix> stdin_: zfs is sun's iirc
[03:49] <Linux_Galore> stdin_: its the new super duper fs from Sun, runs on BSD and OpenSolaris (nexenta)
[03:50] <stdin_> hmm, off to wikipedia I go :P
[03:50] <Jucato> anyone know the command to display disk usage, but only show the directories, not recursively into the directories?
[03:50] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: df -Th ?
[03:50] <stdin_> Jucato: du -sh dirname/ (for human readable)
[03:50] <Jucato> hm.. trying
[03:50] <Linux_Galore> ooh the directories too hmm
[03:50] <stdin_> -s = summery
[03:51] <Jucato> for example, I just want to see the total size of /var, /usr, /boot, etc
[03:51] <Jucato> something like ls -l but shows the real sizes of those directories... without displaying the contents of those directories...
[03:52] <stdin_> Jucato: df -sh /var /usr /boot
[03:52] <Jucato> hm... thanks I'll try that
[03:52] <Jucato> er.. no -s option
[03:52] <Kr4t05> Okay, so I have a question for you guys.
[03:52] <matthew> anyone know what crossover-office is?
[03:53] <Schuenemann> openoffice?
[03:53] <Schuenemann> crossover is the name?
[03:53] <stdin_> matthew: it's the "pro" version
[03:53] <matthew> ah i see.
[03:53] <Schuenemann> is it paid?
[03:53] <Kr4t05> Earlier, I tried to resize my EXT2 partition to make room for some new games I bought for Windows (I have a weakness, this is true.) However, when I try to use (QT/G)Parted from the LiveCD, it hangs.
[03:54] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: du -hs directory_name
[03:54] <mueslix> Kr4t05: wouldn't suggest doing that anyways;-)
[03:54] <stdin_> Schuenemann: ifaik the normal one and the pro are both paid versions, just -office has better support for MS Office
[03:54] <Kr4t05> mueslix: What should I do, then?
[03:55] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: thanks
[03:55] <Ash-Fox> Ever since I upgraded Avahi I have had problems resolving things in various programs. How does one install a older version of something again under apt-get?
[03:55] <stdin_> Kr4t05: try using the gparted cd
[03:55] <mueslix> Kr4t05: get a new hdd or a wii/360
[03:55] <Zero_Kelvin> Hiyo. Just wondering if anyone knows how to get the Embeddable Image Viewer in Konqueror to automatically loop animated gifs. For example, I'm on 4chan, checking out a mucked with version of that squirrel from Move Your Feet blowing stuff up and the gif loads, displaying each frame as it comes in, but doesn't replay it when the download is complete. I could use the Gwenview component, but, yeah...
[03:55] <stdin_> Ash-Fox: apt-get install package=version
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: made me have to think lol
[03:56] <Ash-Fox> stdin, thanks
[03:56] <Kr4t05> mueslix: I don't have $250+ to spend on a Wii or 360, and even if I did, there are some PC games the I prefer to their console counterparts.
[03:56] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: ehehe I was scratching my head too much already....
[03:56] <Kr4t05> mueslix: And, I also play some PC-only games.
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: du  is one of those tools you forget
[03:56] <Kr4t05> So, thanks, but no thanks.
[03:56] <mueslix> hehe
[03:56] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: yeah... I was always thinking of df df df
[03:57] <Kr4t05> Also, I already have a 150GB hard drive for Linux. Hence the reason I wanted to resize it.
[03:57] <mueslix> just saying, wouldn't go to resize my partitions
[03:57] <Kr4t05> mueslix: It's always worked for me before. That's why I'm presenting you with this problem, now.
[03:57] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: I had to open man because I forgot the switches
[03:57] <Kr4t05> Logic dictates that, if it works once, it should work multiple times.
[03:57] <mueslix> Kr4t05: but yeah as stdin mentioned, try the livecd
[03:58] <mueslix> Kr4t05: just like it dictates: it failed once, i'll never try it again ;-)
[03:58] <morghanphoenix> When your system crashes and you have to hard reboot, it comes back up saying kontact is allready running, how to you stop it so you can start it again?
[03:58] <Kr4t05> mueslix: I intend to, but not until after I chew you out. ;P
[03:58] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: killall -9 kontact
[03:59] <mueslix> morghanphoenix: there is a locking file stuck on your hdd
[03:59] <mueslix> delete it and you'll be able to restart it
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: or do it the windows way and use  kdesu ksysguard
[03:59] <morghanphoenix> no processes killed
[03:59] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: nope, he already rebooted.
[03:59] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: read what he's saying :P
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: aaah its a lock file issue
[04:01] <morghanphoenix> so, just remove the lock file like when adept crashes?
[04:01] <Linux_Galore> ~/.kde/share/config/kresources/contact
[04:01] <Linux_Galore> from memory
[04:01] <Linux_Galore> should have a lock file there
[04:02] <morghanphoenix> stdrc is the oly file listed
[04:02] <morghanphoenix> and I have hiddens shown
[04:03] <draik> I can't seem to get audio to come out of my laptop
[04:03] <intelikey> Linux_Galore contact or kontact ?
[04:03] <morghanphoenix> kontact
[04:03] <mueslix> morghanphoenix: is it kontact itself or kmail?
[04:03] <mueslix> or some other component of kontact
[04:03] <morghanphoenix> kontact it says, the warning regards kmail losing emails.
[04:04] <draik> Hey there inteki
[04:04] <mueslix> the kmail lock file would be ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lock
[04:04] <draik> Here there intelikey
[04:04] <intelikey> here there draik
[04:04] <draik> intelikey: everywhere a draik draik???
[04:04] <Linux_Galore> no the directory is called "contact"
[04:05] <morghanphoenix> Kontact already seems to be running on another display on this machine. Running Kontact more than once is not supported by the Metakit backend and can cause the loss of archived articles and crashes at startup. You should disable the archive for now unless you are sure that Kontact is not already running.
[04:05] <ctothej> how do I install grub onto another hard drive?
[04:05] <morghanphoenix> Force access or disable archive are the options
[04:05] <Jucato> !grub
[04:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:05] <Zero_Kelvin> And if anyone's wondering why I don't just use the Gwenview component it's because I can't view an animated gif until the whole thing loads and for some reason several gifs I've tried to save (not by right clicking on teh image, it's not an option in the menu) by clicking on Location -> Save As will only give me the option to save one frame as a PNG. (?!)
[04:05] <intelikey> ctothej sudo grub-install (address)
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: can be one of two things, something is still running in the backround ie check with "kdesu ksysguard"  or a lock file is active
[04:06] <draik> Jucato: How is it going?
[04:06] <draik> Jucato: I still haven't gotten my laptop's audio to work
[04:06] <draik> :(
[04:07] <Zero_Kelvin> I'm trying to keep a nice and simple unified desktop environment thing going here by not installing anything I don't need from outside the KDE family you know. :)
[04:07] <ctothej> Intellkey: is (address) something like "/dev/sdv"?
[04:07] <ctothej> sdc rather
[04:07] <Jucato> draik: doing fine here... sad to hear you have no sound yet :(
[04:07] <zograf> What time will be compiling mplayer on barton 3200 + (sorry i am use el. transleytor) ^_^
[04:07] <intelikey> ctothej yes   or  (hd0)  in grub nomanclature
[04:07] <draik> Jucato: Yeah. I want to know when I get a message on my IMs, but no audio
[04:08] <matthew> how do i read rar files? sudo apt-get instal ???
[04:08] <ctothej> Intellkey: how do I find out which hd# /dev/sdc is?
[04:08] <intelikey> ctothej cat /boot/grub/device*
[04:08] <Jucato> matthew: install "unrar"
[04:08] <matthew> ty
[04:08] <morghanphoenix> no kontact or kmail in the sysguard
[04:08] <intelikey> !rar
[04:08] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:09] <ctothej> Intellkey: great thanks. going to do that now.
[04:09] <morghanphoenix> should I update the database and slocate lock?
[04:10] <Zero_Kelvin> Unrar-free gave me trouble with Ark not being able to find the unrar executable and several Rar 3.0 archives failing to open. Use unrar-free only if you're really uptight about free software, in my opinion.
[04:10] <intelikey> morghanphoenix find ~/ -name lock
[04:10] <morghanphoenix> ack, kabc, kmail, akregator & opera all have lock files.
[04:11] <morghanphoenix> What is kabc?
[04:11] <Linux_Galore> what makes me suspicious about it being a lock file issue is kontact usually tells you if its a lock file issue
[04:11] <mueslix> morghanphoenix: the k addressbook
[04:11] <Jucato> KDE adressbook c____
[04:11] <mueslix> delete the kabc, kmail and akregator lock files
[04:12] <mueslix> and kontact should start up again
[04:12] <angrydill> I'm having a big problem with kmail (1.9.1) right now.  Whenever it connects to my IMAP server, it deletes all messages in the inbox!  No problem with T-Bird as the client.  Any ideas?
[04:13] <Linux_Galore> kcontrol really needs a lockfile manager
[04:13] <matthew> !sh
[04:13] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:13] <morghanphoenix> I installed the ati card and it keeps crashing on me every time I try to run anything that uses direct rendering
[04:13] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: aaah you havent told it to keep a local copy
[04:14] <morghanphoenix> Never had problems with lock files untill I actually had to reboot the thing
[04:14] <morghanphoenix> Got it, Kontact back up and running
[04:14] <morghanphoenix> Thanks
[04:14] <morghanphoenix> Stupid ATi, dropping support for my video card
[04:14] <intelikey> system managers master key#  sudo find / -name lock -exec rm {} \;      <<<< not a real good idea.
[04:15] <BluesKaj> which card , morghanphoenix?
[04:15] <morghanphoenix> Radeon 7000
[04:15] <dtg> anybody got an idea why it won't connect automatically to my router with DHCP, wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it connects
[04:15] <method|> when i try to open up adept i get this error: Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[04:15] <method|> even when i restart
[04:16] <method|> i keep getting the same error
[04:16] <draik> dtg: check both regular user and Administrator Mode
[04:16] <morghanphoenix> Upgraded from the GeeForce 4000 because it was a better card, now I don't have direct rendering and I crash when I rin 3d games.
[04:16] <method|> how do I close whatever process has my database locked?
[04:16] <draik> method|: CTRL+ESC
[04:16] <dtg> draik, what?
[04:16] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | method|
[04:16] <ubotu> method|: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:17] <method|> cool thanks
[04:17] <kubuntero> morghanphoenix: You are golden :)
[04:17] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix
[04:17] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:17] <morghanphoenix> eh?
[04:17] <kubuntero> morghanphoenix: The opensource drivers work great with that card
[04:17] <BluesKaj> http://www.marteydodoo.com/2006/08/29/installing-binary-ati-drivers-on-ubuntu-edgy/
[04:17] <draik> dtg: nevermind, I forgot there is only Administrator Mode for accessing the Network section
[04:17] <dtg> yes
[04:17] <draik> dtg: sorry.
[04:17] <dtg> :(
[04:17] <kubuntero> Zero_Kelvin: What's the problem?
[04:18] <dtg> anybody got an idea why it won't connect automatically to my router with DHCP, wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it connects
[04:18] <method|> Jucato: what does that command do exactly?
[04:18] <morghanphoenix> The ATi drivers from the howto?
[04:18] <Jucato> method|: it unlocks your APT database
[04:19] <Jucato> method|: so that you could use APT and Adept again
[04:20] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: I want to view animated gifs in Konqueror after they've downloaded, i.e. I want them to loop when viewed by the Embeddable Image Viewer, OR I'd like Gwenview's Embeddable KPart to allow me to save them as gif's and not one frame PNG's. Getting either of those things to happen would be nice without me having to diddle about with viewing Gwenview Kpart, then switching to Embeddable to save.
[04:20] <matthew> !sh
[04:20] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:20] <kubuntero> Zero_Kelvin: can you give an example?
[04:21] <angrydill> Linux_Galore: is keeping a local copy an option in the kmail account settings?  I can't seem to find it.  Thanks.
[04:22] <kubuntero> use y-Windows!! It's one letter better
[04:23] <morghanphoenix> I like xscreensaver better, more nice little screensaves, but it always has writing visable through my screensaver when I try to use it with KDE.
[04:23] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Okay, say I view an animated gif on its own. If the embeddable viewing Kpart I have set is the Embeddable Image Viewer then I see each frame of the gif as it loads, then it stops and does not loop, the Konqeror throbber still rotating away. If I have Konqeror using Gwenview's Kpart then the image loads and loops (but doesn't animate until it's all downloaded) and when I try to save it with a right click it doesn't offer a save option.
[04:23] <Zero_Kelvin> Clicking Location -> Save As results in it only offering me an ability to save as a static PNG.
[04:23] <Zero_Kelvin> BRB, going for a smoke.
[04:24] <kubuntero> Zero_Kelvin: URL?
[04:25] <ctothej> Intelikey: Tried rebooting and grub is telling me that it cant mount the partition...
[04:25] <morghanphoenix> I like lilo myself.
[04:25] <intelikey> ctothej what is the partition ?
[04:25] <kubuntero> I miss Lilo :(
[04:26] <intelikey> i use lilo
[04:26] <farkr> slackware uses lilo still default
[04:26] <intelikey> !lilo
[04:26] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[04:26] <kubuntero> RIP lilo
[04:26] <ctothej> Intelikey: grub is looking for /dev/sdc1
[04:26] <morghanphoenix> My slackware system uses lilo
[04:27] <intelikey> ctothej fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[04:27] <morghanphoenix> It's set up with boot themes and runs at full-screen, full-colour
[04:27] <intelikey> let me see sdc1
[04:27] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Any animated gif. They loop in Firefox, not Konqueror's Embeddable Kpart.
[04:27] <ctothej> Intelikey: I installed grub on /dev/sdc , which is hd2
[04:27] <morghanphoenix> Looks really purtee and actually gives me time to choose my boot partition by default
[04:27] <kubuntero> Zero_Kelvin: still gimmie a URL so we are looking at the same thing
[04:28] <morghanphoenix> sdc is the 2nd hard drive?
[04:28] <ctothej> Intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1134/
[04:29] <kubuntero> morghanphoenix: Possibly third
[04:30] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Strange. I went to get you a URL - http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1168430540964.gif (guy falling off of a tower) - and now that I've downloaded it once and it's pulled it from cache to view it again, it's looping.
[04:30] <matthew> i have a folder  named Linux programs, how would i type that in konsole? cd ~/Linux progams dosent work ><
[04:30] <kubuntero> does kscreensaver even have a web page :-(
[04:30] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Looping in the Embeddable KPart I mean.
[04:30] <morghanphoenix> hda 1st hdd, hdb 2nd hdd, sda 3rd hdd, sdb 4th hdd.
[04:30] <intelikey> ctothej hmmm   and  grep /dev/sdc /boot/grub/device* | grep hd2
[04:30] <BluesKaj> it's a folder , cd only works on files
[04:31] <ctothej> Intelikey: " (hd2)   /dev/sdc "
[04:31] <kubuntero> matthew: A) tab is your friend
[04:31] <kubuntero> matthew: once you learn that you will see the answer for b) :)
[04:32] <matthew> ty, love tab :D
[04:32] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: However, the tab is labelled - "GIF Image - 0x0 Pixels", just FYI.
[04:32] <ctothej> Intelikey: grub came up, so it installed fine, but when it tried to boot the OS, that is when the error came up.
[04:32] <kubuntero> My tab is labeled some long number
[04:33] <ctothej> Intelikey: grub boots fine from its install on /dev/sda , which is how I got back in.
[04:33] <kubuntero> ok now it's named longnnumber.gif 238x144
[04:33] <intelikey> ctothej ok that's the problem maybe.   you need to add  "" (hd2,0)   /dev/sdc1 "  to that file and use (hd2,0) as the address in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:33] <kubuntero> matthew: XD
[04:33] <intelikey> ctothej and you should get a second openion on that.    i'm not a grub'y dude  :)
[04:34] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Most of those boards rename the files once they've been uploaded. Just don't go wandering if you're prudish - there's a lot of naughtiness amongst the fun and wierd stuff.
[04:34] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: kmail will delete any messages on the IMAP server inbox that doesnt match up
[04:34] <intelikey> grub          GRUB           help ctothej  with grub.
[04:35] <BluesKaj> !GAG
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GAG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Just restarted Konqueror and am downloading two more gifs that I haven't seen before to see if they loop or just stop with the K throbber still rotating.
[04:36] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: setup a "disconected imap" account
[04:36] <ctothej> Intelikey: thanks for the help thus far.
[04:36] <BluesKaj> Graphical Boot manager : http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[04:36] <kubuntero> ok
[04:37] <angrydill> Thanks, Galore, I'll try that.  I wasn't sure what the "Disconnected" Imap accounts were used for, so didn't try
[04:38] <stdin> bah, just use the GRand Unified Bootloader
[04:38] <D3javu> Yikes, kubuntu installer still at configuring apt 82% after 10 minutes :-/
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: yes, you can have both a a normal imap and disconnected and you can select it under the download button
[04:38] <matthew> is crossover officer pro same thing as the normal crossover that let you instal windows programs?
[04:39] <intelikey> ctothej also  make sure that the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst has the correct root=
[04:39] <angrydill> Thx, Galore!
[04:40] <farkr> this is how i want to partition (i think, after a week of researching). can anyone tell me if this looks good or if theres any problems before i do it: http://pastebin.ca/312722
[04:40] <method|> when i try to install a package thru adept i get this error: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: I only started using kmail a week ago, I usually use Tbird or Evolution
[04:40] <method|> actually im trying to remove a package
[04:41] <angrydill> matthew:  where you can't use a tab (scripts, etc.) you can either use:   cd "Linux Programs"   (with quotes) or  cd Linux
[04:41] <angrydill> er cd Linux\ Programs
[04:42] <intelikey> farkr /var == 1.5g   too small.
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> method|: dpkg -i package_name
[04:42] <farkr> intelikey even for a single user desktop?
[04:42] <angrydill> I hate that the backslash is so near enter on this kbd :(
[04:42] <stdin> method|: try and remove it in konsole, you'll get a more descriptive error
[04:42] <farkr> angrydill i have the worst keyboard in the world it has a 'power off' button by the escape key and it wont disable
[04:42] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Downloaded a small gif. It stopped animating, throbber still spinning, but when I hit reload it just looped it. Tried it with another one and this one started to redownload. This would be less annoying if there was someconsistency to the behavior.
[04:43] <kubuntero> Argh This Gif is huge
[04:43] <farkr> if i accidently press it i go byeybye, have twice already :)
[04:43] <ctothej> The command "df /boot" gives me a "mounted on" value of "/" and not "/boot". is this ok?
[04:43] <kubuntero> How do you clear cache?
[04:43] <stdin> ctothej: that's fine
[04:43] <Ash-Fox> Argh, I can't even downgrade to a older version of avahi, because it just isn't the repositories anymore
[04:43] <method|> error processing sun-java5-bin (--remove):
[04:43] <method|>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[04:43] <method|>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[04:43] <ctothej> stdin: nice. thanks.
[04:43] <intelikey> farkr yes.   var is where the package cache is as well as some very important system files.   also the mail.   as well as apache if you run apache
[04:43] <method|> how do I reinstall it if i cant remove it?
[04:43] <stdin> Ash-Fox: what version want it?
[04:44] <farkr> intelikey how big should i make it 3gb?
[04:44] <Ash-Fox> stdin, 0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3
[04:44] <farkr> maybe ill make tmp and var both 3gb to be safe
[04:44] <intelikey> farkr at least 2g but unless you have a large website in mind then 3g is more than plenty.
[04:44] <stdin> method|: to remove "sudo apt-get remove package" to install "sudo apt-get install package" to reinstall without uninstalling first "sudo apt-get --reinstall install packag"
[04:45] <stdin> Ash-Fox: and the package name ?
[04:45] <farkr> intelikey do you think it's good to make those partitions reiserfs ?
[04:45] <arkanabar> Somebody mentioned earlier that O'Reilly's "Hacking Ubuntu" was available as a free download, but I can't find the darned thing.  Anyone got a link?
[04:46] <intelikey> frank_ i wouldn't var  but some would argue that it's safe.   as to tmp  that would be fine.
[04:46] <intelikey> farkr ^
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: apt-get clean
[04:46] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Looking at both gifs in Konqueror as File Manager straight off of the hard drive and they loop fine.
[04:46] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: Konqueror's web cache :)
[04:47] <angrydill> Galore: I use TBird and like it. I just hate having separate address books for KDE and Thunderbird.  :(
[04:47] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: aah
[04:47] <stdin> brb
[04:48] <Ash-Fox> stdin, well, assuming I got this right: avahi-daemon, libavahi-client3, libavahi-client3-dev, libavahi-common-data, libavahi-common3, libavahi-compat-libdnssd1, libavahi-core4, libavahi-glib1
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: yeah, and Thunderbird hasnt got an intergrated contacts manager either aka kmail can be intergrated with kontacts (just run kontacts no kmail to start it all up)
[04:48] <Ash-Fox> Since the recent libavahi upgrade has totally screwed up DNS resolving for me.
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> s/no/not/
[04:50] <stdin> Ash-Fox: do you know the *exact* package name?
[04:51] <angrydill> Thanks, Linux_Galore.  Once I get that IMAP setup fixed, I'll be 100% Kmail/Kontact
[04:51] <Ash-Fox> stdin, those are the exact package names
[04:51] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: open Konqueror  Settings -> Configure Konqueror   go to Cache  then just click on "clear cache"
[04:51] <stdin> !find libavahi
[04:51] <arkanabar> Somebody mentioned earlier that O'Reilly's "Hacking Ubuntu" was available as a free download, but I can't find the darned thing.  Anyone got a link?
[04:51] <ubotu> Found: libavahi1.0-cil, libavahi-client-dev, libavahi-client3, libavahi-common-data, libavahi-common-dev (and 13 others)
[04:51] <stdin> Ash-Fox: as you can see, there are a few packages with libavahi in it
[04:52] <angrydill> Mandrake's "urpmi" install command allows you to type only part of the pkg name.  Any way to do that with apt?
[04:52] <Ash-Fox> stdin, however I know which ones are installed on my system, and I gave them to you.
[04:53] <stdin> angrydill: use tab completion: apt-get install pack<tab> goes to apt-get install package
[04:53] <intelikey> angrydill apt-cache search 'string'       and it will list any and all matches.
[04:53] <intelikey> angrydill or you can wild card the install command but you probably don't want that.     sudo apt-get install blah*
[04:54] <fulat2k> hi folks, any way i can get intel HD audio is support in kubuntu 6.10?
[04:54] <intelikey> stdin doesn't that assume bash_completion enabled ?
[04:54] <stdin> Ash-Fox: when did you give them?
[04:55] <Ash-Fox> stdin, huh?
[04:55] <stdin> intelikey: I dunno, it should be, I know I didn't have to enable it
[04:55] <Ash-Fox> 04:48 <Ash-Fox> stdin, well, assuming I got this right: avahi-daemon, libavahi-client3, libavahi-client3-dev, libavahi-common-data, libavahi-common3, libavahi-compat-libdnssd1, libavahi-core4, libavahi-glib1
[04:55] <stdin> Ash-Fox: I wasn't here then, I had to restart konversation then :P
[04:55] <intelikey> stdin hmmm  not default enabled on dapper
[04:56] <stdin> intelikey: it was in edgy, and is in feisty
[04:56] <Ash-Fox> Okay :P
[04:56] <intelikey> hmmmm
[04:58] <stdin> Ash-Fox: I've looked and you're right, the only version close to what you wanted is 0.6.13-2ubuntu2.4 (soo close tho)
[04:59] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Okay, for now I've turned on KGet and am downloading animated gifs with that after previewing them with the Gwenview KPart - a convoluted and silly thing I shouldn't need to do. :/
[04:59] <Ash-Fox> stdin, only problem is that, that particular version broke dns resolving in firefox, opera, wine :/
[04:59] <kubuntero> Ha ha. They all seem to work fine for me
[04:59] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: What version of Konqueror?
[04:59] <Ash-Fox> (dig, host, konqueror etc. still work fine)
[05:00] <kubuntero> 3.5.5
[05:00] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Ditto.
[05:08] <intelikey> hmmmm i wonder why this guy is trying to get into my box ????
[05:08] <stdin> intelikey: ssh bruteforce attack ?
[05:09] <intelikey> ssh not running.
[05:09] <Zero_Kelvin> Does anyone know if there are actual otions that can be set somewhere to control the playing or non-playing of animated gifs in Konqueror? I noticed a lot of wishlist stuff about animated gif control for older versions of Konqueror on Google when I was looking for an answer to solve my annoyance.
[05:09] <intelikey> ping me
[05:10] <stdin> hmm, ping attack, that's an old one
[05:10] <intelikey> yeah.
 anal?
[05:10] <intelikey> ok that's over.
[05:11] <intelikey> back later.
[05:12] <desijays> dear fellow ubuntu users, can someone please help me to install firefox on my new kubuntu installation. Im using amd64 and i can't install the available deb file
[05:12] <Rob-West> sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:13] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg -i "the firefoxfilename.deb"
[05:14] <desijays> dear mate, it says it needs to install an additional 37 mb of files. Is that okie?
[05:14] <BluesKaj>  yup
[05:15] <stdin> isn't firefox on the amd64 version ???
[05:15] <desijays> unfortunately no mate. it isn't. :(
[05:15] <Dr_willis> huh..
[05:15] <desijays> i only have something called koncurer. it is very very slow
[05:15] <Dr_willis> !info firefox
[05:15] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 8992 kB, installed size 28580 kB
[05:16] <Dr_willis> i think ya may want to fire up the package manager and check again.
[05:16] <stdin> then how come I see a load of amd64 debs here  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[05:16] <Dr_willis> instead of doing this song and dance. :)
[05:16] <BluesKaj> maybe not on the 64vers
[05:17] <stdin> so what's firefox-dbg_1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb  ??
[05:17] <Dr_willis>  firefox_2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[05:17] <BluesKaj> it seems i had to install it seperately when i tried the 64 bit dapper
[05:17] <desijays> i don't why, but when i search for it, i never seem to get what i want. thanks stdin mate
[05:17] <Dr_willis> apt-get update and search again
[05:18] <stdin> this seems to be the most recent version http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox-dbg_<IP_ADDRESS>+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10_amd64.deb
[05:19] <desijays> do you think it would be better if i install using the deb file or just apt-get?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> desijays,  always apt-get
[05:20] <desijays> okie willis mate. i think its downloading now.. shows a list of files and lots of %. i hope that is normal.
[05:20] <mortici> anyone wanna educate me on how to install kubuntu on a raid 0?
[05:20] <desijays> Thanks you all very much
[05:20] <LameBMX> !raid
[05:20] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:20] <LameBMX> !fakeraid
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <LameBMX> !softwareraid
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softwareraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <AndyBe> I did it here, but it doesent make sence on this old machine... lol -.
[05:21] <BluesKaj> sacktime
[05:21] <BluesKaj> nite all
[05:21] <AndyBe> me too, BluesKaj
[05:21] <Linux_Galore> mortici: thats a "book question"
[05:21] <stdin> LameBMX: the raid howto should at least link to the page you want
[05:22] <AndyBe> search for debian.
[05:22] <AndyBe> I found it there.
[05:22] <Zero_Kelvin> Outta here, cya's later.
[05:22] <Linux_Galore> !raid
[05:22] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:22] <AndyBe> I used the server
[05:22] <LameBMX> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/fakeraidedgy .... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/fakeraidhowto
[05:22] <AndyBe> but i think it is bin able
[05:22] <SpAwN> !filesharing
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <Linux_Galore> !p2p
[05:23] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[05:23] <SpAwN> !fileshare
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fileshare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <AndyBe> if you make not a partition make a raid on each hardisk.
[05:23] <AndyBe> reboot better
[05:23] <LameBMX> stdin ... if someone gave me bot axx i would link it up lol
[05:23] <Linux_Galore> Linux works better though with raid5/10   0/1  throttles the kernel too much
[05:23] <AndyBe> on this you can make one partionen, but don't forget the swapfile! - not in soft raid !!!
[05:24] <SpAwN> what do i need to share files from my kubuntu box to my other linux box...i want to share my home folder on my kubuntu box and mount it on my other linuxu box(mandriva)
[05:24] <LameBMX> eh .. im stuck on a fakeraid 0 lol ... still a ton faster than a single device
[05:24] <AndyBe> nfs you need !
[05:24] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: nothing really
[05:24] <lincoln> hey whats up, i'm getting an error using apt-get .. it keeps saying that all of the servers have an IP address of <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:24] <AndyBe> or simple make an ftp.
[05:24] <AndyBe> ..stupid idea.
[05:24] <stdin> !samba | SpAwN
[05:24] <ubotu> SpAwN: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:24] <desijays> a silly question....time waster... how come downloads are much faster in kubuntu than xp? i never got 40 k downlods in xp. but in kubuntu it stays at 38 to 40..
[05:24] <stdin> used for file sharing over LAN ^^^
[05:24] <AndyBe> samba, hm from linux to linux...
[05:25] <SpAwN> when i goto system settings and sharing its all grayed out(even after i goto adminsrator mode)
[05:25] <AndyBe> no
[05:25] <lincoln> hey whats up, i'm getting an error using apt-get .. it keeps saying that all of the servers have an IP address of <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:25] <lincoln> shit sorry
[05:25] <SpAwN> stdin, is samba better then nfs?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> desijays,  download speeds can vary vastly depending on servers and other things... windows also seems to lie about the #'s at times.
[05:25] <stdin> unless you want yo get in to the goriness of setting up nfs
[05:25] <AndyBe> no, normal not.
[05:25] <LameBMX> SpAwN, you can also use ssh ...
[05:25] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: you can setup an on the fly share right click on the directory you want to share -> properties    click on Share then Setup Share
[05:26] <AndyBe> only if your mixed with Window$ Boxes.
[05:26] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: sorry click on the Sharing Tab
[05:26] <SpAwN> Linux_Galore, when i do that its all grayed out...i cant do anything
[05:26] <stdin> sshfs is good to
[05:26] <stdin> !sshfs
[05:26] <AndyBe> nfs is not hard to learn. ... google it with debian nfs installation.
[05:26] <ubotu> sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:26] <AndyBe> ssh, is shell like not a mount.
[05:26] <mortici> damn it i thought it would be easy to install on my raid0 :(
[05:27] <AndyBe> mortici, it is eay.
[05:27] <SpAwN> well what do uthink the easiest/more reliable way to go is.
[05:27] <stdin> AndyBe: did you not just read what the bot said?
[05:27] <SpAwN> like a good medium
[05:27] <desijays> all mates who helped. thank u. firefox up and running :)
[05:27] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: other method is to install open-ssh-server and the you can access the machine from within konqueror via  fish://192.168.etc
[05:27] <stdin> desijays: happy browsing :P
[05:27] <mortici> AndyBe: right... i have a windows partition i wish to be undamaged :/
[05:28] <AndyBe> hands up mortici.
[05:28] <SpAwN> i just want a folder in like /mnt ie /mnt/samba or we/
[05:28] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: the ssh-server method is what I use and I put links on the remote machine
[05:28] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: sorry "links on the desktop"
[05:28] <AndyBe> SpAwN:  read about nfs, its not to hard.
[05:29] <stdin> !nfs
[05:29] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> SpAwN,  thats doable.. theres  several ways to do it.. and what is best.. depends on your exact setup
[05:29] <mortici> AndyBe: i put my hands up
[05:29] <Dr_willis> SpAwN,  for a Linux to linux machine. NFS is proberly fastest. for long term shares.
[05:29] <SpAwN> Dr_willis, ahh yea i kinda have heard that and leaning toward nfs
[05:29] <AndyBe> mortici: that's why I got a seperate computer to play with. damm yesterday I loose my imap server here because of that.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> SpAwN,  but for some quick transfering of files.. ssh and the konqueror use of fish:// is handy
[05:31] <SpAwN> ahh k thanks guys :-)
[05:31] <mortici> bah ill just buy a secondary HDD and use that
[05:31] <mortici> my laptop runs kubuntu just fine
[05:31] <AndyBe> * got a little sleep *
[05:31] <stdin> I like sshfs, because I already have ssh setup, and I'm lazy :P
[05:31] <Dr_willis> 'fuse' is a often overlooked and darn handy tool.
[05:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:31] <Linux_Galore> stdin: I found the built in share thing in KDE by accident, I didnt even know it was there
[05:32] <stdin> shame !fuse only talks about the ntfs fuse part
[05:32] <Dr_willis> stdin,  yea  - they need to fix up  a better wiki/factoid
[05:32] <Minataku> Aw, man...
[05:32] <Linux_Galore> I setup on the fly shared with the built in share server now and again
[05:32] <stdin> Linux_Galore: you need to explore more :P
[05:33] <Minataku> AIX for PS/2 1.3.0 won't work on my IBM PS/2 note N51 slc :(
[05:33] <Linux_Galore> stdin: yeah I usually use ssh, I just wanted to share a Directory on the fly one day without nfs or ssh and I found the Sharing thing in KDE
[05:34] <Minataku> It runs and installs but a couple minutes after booting it bitches about a hard error on / and panics :(
[05:34] <stdin> Linux_Galore: sharing on the fly with ssh is easy, no setup required, you just mount to where you want it, from the remote sever
[05:34] <stdin> s/server/client/
[05:34] <Linux_Galore> stdin: no, kde can setup a "share server" without installing "anything"
[05:35] <stdin> you need to install samba server, not installed by default on *buntu
[05:35] <Linux_Galore> stdin: even shows an applet in your taskbar of the share server and when its being accessed
[05:35] <Linux_Galore> stdin: I dont have samba installed
[05:35] <stdin> ahh, that one :P
[05:35] <stdin> I get ya now :P
[05:36] <Dr_willis> what does it share it with then..
[05:36] <Linux_Galore> stdin: yeah the lazy mans share server
[05:36] <stdin> I think it used http
[05:36] <Linux_Galore> yeah its http
[05:36] <Linux_Galore> stdin: you can even define the port and speed of the share
[05:36] <stdin> applet "Public File Server"
[05:37] <Linux_Galore> stdin: if you behind a firewall router its not so public
[05:37] <Linux_Galore> your*
[05:37] <stdin> my pc IS the router in my LAN :P
[05:38] <mortici> lol i got my new soldering iron and now i wanna solder stuff
[05:38] <Dr_willis> brand the dog.
[05:38] <mortici> lol
[05:39] <Linux_Galore> mortici: always run around signing plastic things with "this is mine" with it
[05:39] <stdin> nah, solder it to the cat, hours of fun :)
[05:39] <mortici> haha
[05:39] <mortici> crazy geeks :P
[05:40] <mortici> i was gonna entertain my self by installing kubuntu on my desktop but it seems it will be more of a challange than i wanna do a t 11pm :P
[05:40] <stdin> nah, it's as easy as 3.14159265
[05:42] <kgarrod> I have a problem with Quanta+ going into a loop. When I open it up, it eads my project files and then sits there chewing cpu
[05:42] <kgarrod> eads -> reads
[05:43] <mortici> there should be an easier way to install linux on raid arrays :/
[05:44] <Dr_willis> You dont want to know the song and dance ive seen to isntall windows on raid arrays
[05:45] <mortici> i wanna see it
[05:45] <mortici> and i had no issues installing windows on a raid0 here :/
[05:46] <bdragonmsl> does anyone know how to edit settings in the grub on kubuntu?
[05:47] <stdin> bdragonmsl: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:47] <ironfroggy> any idea why any kde app or firefox can print, but OOo can not?
[05:47] <aib> is anyone using KDE 4 in Edgy?
[05:49] <burepe> Is "vram" ram for the video card?
[05:49] <stdin> aib: kde4 isn't out yet
[05:49] <aib> stdin, i'm aware of that http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php
[05:50] <stdin> burepe: yes, but only if your video card doesn't have it's own ram, like intel chips
[05:51] <burepe> what about savage s3 k133 cards?
[05:53] <FFForever> Hi
[05:53] <will> hi all, im running edgy, and im trying to upgrade my amarok to amarok144 so it has support for my zen creative mp3 player, I found a place that has a package, but all it says is "deb source ..." what do I do with that information?
[05:53] <FFForever> i have used ffmpeg and k3b to burn/make a vcd but my dvd player says its not a vcd, how can i make a working vcd?
[05:54] <glimmung> holy crap whats going on?
[05:54] <stdin_> quite a split there :P
[05:54] <Minataku> Big boom
[05:54] <glimmung> hi all, im running edgy, and im trying to upgrade my amarok to amarok144 so it has support for my zen creative mp3 player, I found a place that has a package, but all it says is "deb source ..." what do I do with that information?
[05:55] <Jucato> !amarok
[05:55] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[05:55] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: look on the kubuntu.org home page it has a repo for the latest version of amarok there
[05:55] <burepe> stdin: the page for the settings about my couputer says vram 16mb. Does that mean that I have to set the amount of deticated video memory?
[05:55] <FFForever> ok ima repost my question due to a 200 user diffrence lol
[05:55] <FFForever> i have used ffmpeg and k3b to burn/make a vcd but my dvd player says its not a vcd, how can i make a working vcd?
[05:56] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php
[05:56] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: tells you everything you need to know
[05:57] <glimmung> no it doesnt, I dont know what to do with the apt source info
[05:58] <Linux_Galore> FFForever: hmm latest version of k3b has a vcd ripper tool built
[05:58] <Tm_T> !repository
[05:58] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:59] <Tm_T> Hmm, not sure does that help at all.
[05:59] <Linux_Galore> FFForever: need k3b Ver 1.0
[05:59] <Jucato> Tm_T: what you looking for?
[05:59] <Tm_T> 06:57 < glimmung> no it doesnt, I dont know what to do with the apt source info
[05:59] <Tm_T> Bah, should wake up first. ->
[06:00] <Jucato> glimmung: what do you mean? did you follow the instructions for adding Amarok 1.4.4 in the kubuntu.org page?
[06:01] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: there is a notice on the kubuntu.org page about it
[06:01] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: notice that?
[06:01] <Jucato> is there a new notice?
[06:01] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: ok its easy
[06:02] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: open adept from your menu
[06:02] <Hawkwind> You will get a message "OK" (you may also get a warning about no ultimately trusted keys found).
[06:02] <Hawkwind> I think he's referring to that message maybe
[06:02] <Hawkwind> Which can certainly be ignored
[06:02] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: now click on View -> Manage Repositories
[06:02] <Jucato> Hi Hawkwind!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:02] <Hawkwind> Hey Jucato!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:03] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: !!!!!!!!!!!
[06:03] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: now add this line and click on apply  -> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main
[06:03] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: now go back to the main window in adept and click on update
[06:03] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: now it should want to update amarok
[06:04] <Hawkwind> Joy
[06:04] <stdin> woooh !
[06:04] <Linux_Galore> should be a thing in konversation to ignore netsplits
[06:05] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: ignore join/parts
[06:05] <Hawkwind> Linux_Galore: There is, you could type /quit Ignoring Netsplits
[06:05] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: Hide Join/Part/Nick Events
[06:05] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: I want that one of join/leave thing, I dont want to see netsplits
[06:05] <LeeJunFan> Linux_Galore: I liked my old IRC client on Amiga, it used to show you what net's split off when there was a split, so you'd know what one to join if you wanted to takeover a channel :)
[06:06] <Linux_Galore> s/that/the/
[06:06] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: well, you won't notice a netsplit if you don't see the massive join/part
[06:07] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yeah but there should be a leave/enter filter for netsplits ie more than 10 in 3 seconds and its a netsplit
[06:07] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: any other FOSS IRC client that does that?
[06:08] <dope> sup buddies
[06:08] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: well I used to have a filter plugin for gaim that allowed me to filter set events on Yahoo
[06:08] <akrus`Mobile> hello everyone~
[06:08] <akrus`Mobile> how to enable mouse control from keyboard in KDE?
[06:08] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: ie join/leave floods could be ignored
[06:09] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: gaim has that plugin? maybe you could request the Konvi devs to hack it?
[06:09] <dope> so what's the best way to ssh from a linux comp to a windows comp
[06:09] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: it only works for yahoo, its called ignorance
[06:09] <Jucato> akrus`Mobile: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> Mouse Navigation
[06:09] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: Yahoo Chat on GAIM?
[06:09] <akrus`Mobile> I cannot move to 'Keyboard & Mouse' without mouse :)
[06:09] <dope> so what's the best way to ssh from a linux comp to a windows comp
[06:09] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yep
[06:10] <dope> or remote access a windows comp from linux
[06:10] <Hobbsee> hey Hawkwind
[06:10] <Jucato> akrus`Mobile: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", then use cursor keys and Tab keys to navigate. it's under Peripherals -> Mouse
[06:10] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Afternoon/evening to ya, how's things
[06:10] <Linux_Galore> dope: windows machine must be running an ssh server for that to work
[06:10] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: maybe it's possible becaause of the nature of Yahoo Chat, which isn't IRC
[06:10] <akrus`Mobile> SHIFT+NUMLOCK :)
[06:11] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: not really, Yahoo is just a wrapper protocol with plain text
[06:11] <Jucato> kool, didn't know that :)
[06:11] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: good :
[06:11] <Hobbsee> )
[06:11] <dope> or remote access a windows comp from linux
[06:11] <Jucato> if you say so
[06:11] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: the info is freely available
[06:12] <Dr_willis> dope,  to access files on a windows box. use the FISH:// stuff or some other samba method/tool/mount
[06:12] <dope> FISH!?@$#
[06:12] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: I used to use an app called gyach on yahoo it has a debug mode that shows the packets in the terminal between you and yahoo
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Yes.. fish://
[06:13] <Dr_willis> konqueror can browse samba/smb shares with the fish:// kioslave
[06:13] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: its actually not that big a deal
[06:13] <Dr_willis> or am i backwards.. fish is for ssh... smb:// is samba
[06:13] <dope> so how do i connect to a windows whatever with the fish thing
[06:13] <dope> i have to make a samba share?
[06:13] <dope> OH GOD I'M LOST
[06:13] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: like I said, you can probably request it from the #konversation guys
[06:13] <Dr_willis> windows must have a SHARE shared...... of course
[06:13] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: what is complex about yahoo is all the weird cookie crap that yahoo uses
[06:13] <dope> a special samba share or just share a folder
[06:13] <Dr_willis> then you can use the various samba/smb browser tools to access the wndows share.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> dope,  windows "shareing" folders is the equilivent of samba shares on a linux box.
[06:14] <dope> oh really
[06:14] <dope> so what would the url be to access it?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> windows dont use 'samba' thats the name of the LInux thing that does the same thing
[06:14] <Dr_willis> smb://windowsboxname or similer.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> open up konueror to the remote places.. it has a icon for the shares
[06:15] <Dr_willis> remote:/
[06:15] <dope> OMG I FOUND IT
[06:15] <dope> OMGOMGOMG
[06:15] <Dr_willis> amazing what you can find when you look...
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <dope> can i say i love you?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> dont make me come over there....
[06:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:16] <Jucato> hahah
[06:16] <dope> i luv u
[06:16] <dope> and u and u and u
[06:17] <Dr_willis> NOW to access files on a linux box from a windows machine.. winscp is a rather easy to do it..
[06:17] <dope> yea i got something for that
[06:17] <dope> i think it's winscp
[06:17] <Dr_willis> or ya can set up samba for the linux box.. and the windows machine will see it as if it was a windows machine with some shares...
[06:17] <dope> is that a visual tool?
[06:17] <dope> it looks like krusader?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> it can look like explorer, or like a 2 pane file manager
[06:17] <arkanabar> Is there an equivalent to "Kubuntu for Dummies" online somewhere?
[06:18] <Jucato> arkanabar: it's included with every Kubuntu installation: K Menu -> Help -> Kubuntu Desktop Guide :)
[06:20] <CVirus> * Rob-West is looking for people to talk to PM me
[06:20] <CVirus> WTF ?
[06:20] <CVirus> A dating channel that is ?!
[06:20] <intelikey> hmmmm it takes gnome apps for ever and a day (figuratively) to start.   could that be because i made   /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 a symlink to /bin/true ?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> I hear that #debian has a lot of hot chicks...
[06:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:20] <intelikey> Dr_willis lol
[06:21] <CVirus> Rob-West: #Kubuntu-OffTopic or #Ubuntu-OffTopic
[06:21] <Linux_Galore> Dr_willis: with big bananas in their pants
[06:21] <CVirus> Rob-West: or move to another server even ... like undernet or dalnet
[06:21] <arkanabar> Argh!!  I was sure I ran passwd for user root successfully!  But the password I set didn't work......
[06:22] <intelikey> arkanabar didn't work where ?
[06:22] <arkanabar> with add programs.
[06:23] <Jucato> kdesu in Kubuntu is set to use sudo, it will always be sudo
[06:23] <intelikey> that's because it's not asking for root's passwd.
[06:23] <Jucato> afaik
[06:23] <intelikey> arkanabar try your password
[06:23] <Dr_willis> unless of course ya set roots password, to the same as that first users password. :)
[06:24] <Jucato> but it still uses sudo :P
[06:24] <intelikey> it still is not asking for root's password.  the fact that they would be the same is irrelivent
[06:24] <Dr_willis> then it dosent matter...
[06:24] <intelikey> even if you spell it correctly
[06:25] <Dr_willis> darn!  i typed it wrong
[06:25] <intelikey> password==password
[06:25] <intelikey> name==name
[06:25] <intelikey> hehhe don't that.
[06:25] <Jucato> setting a passwd for root user only applies in the terminal
[06:25] <Jucato> kdesu will still use sudo no matter what...
[06:25] <arkanabar> I was at command line when I did it
[06:26] <Jucato> (except by making some config changes or re-compiling kdesu)
[06:26] <intelikey> Jucato or if you enable root login in kdm
[06:26] <Jucato> intelikey: but then... why would you need kdesu? :P
[06:26] <intelikey> you wouldn't
[06:26] <intelikey> but you couldn't tell kde that.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> !info sux
[06:26] <ubotu> sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:27] <Dr_willis> i just use Sux out of old habbit.
[06:27] <jordo23> Hey Jucato
[06:27] <Jucato> hi jordo23
[06:27] <Jucato> I use kdesu, no root, out of habit :)
[06:27] <arkanabar> nvm, have to sleep.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> im always sshing into other box's and running stuff.. been having some issues if i dont use sux :)
[06:27] <intelikey> i'm nosuid  so no su,sux,sudo,kdesu  here mate
[06:28] <Jucato> is that an invitation to crackers?
[06:28] <intelikey> it's been tried
[06:28] <intelikey> but no success yet.
[06:29] <intelikey> not really an invite tho
[06:29] <dane> ...hello?
[06:30] <intelikey> i ran ssh for a week and advertized my ip and a guest account with passwd=x   so they could really test it...  three people took me up on it.
[06:30] <intelikey> sshd
[06:30] <Jucato> hi
[06:30] <dane> nice
[06:30] <dane> good stuff
[06:30] <dane> are you happy?
[06:30] <Jucato> ??
[06:31] <intelikey> or at least 3 was all i could track through the logs    i confess that i'm not good at tracking things like that.
[06:32] <kai> stdin: on my ipod when I mount it say invalid file format?
[06:32] <placo> anyone knows how i can disable my wifi radio and get rid of this anyoing flickering light on my laptop?
[06:32] <dope> ok how would i stream a music file off a linux box to a windows box?
[06:32] <kai> the only spots I have left are sdb
[06:32] <kai> whats goin on with that
[06:33] <intelikey> placo mmmm could remove the module from the kernel ?
[06:33] <stdin> kai: it should be sd*2 where * can be any letter
[06:33] <intelikey> black list it
[06:33] <placo> that difficult?
[06:33] <kai> but its telling me invalid filesystem
[06:33] <dope> ok how would i stream a music file off a linux box to a windows box?
[06:34] <intelikey> placo probably not.
[06:34] <kai> stdin:
[06:34] <kai> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[06:34] <kai>        missing codepage or other error
[06:34] <kai>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[06:34] <kai>        dmesg | tail  or so
[06:34] <placo> because i would like to use it later on, but not now
[06:34] <kai> why 2?
[06:35] <kai> why does it have to sd*2?
[06:35] <placo> intelikey how do i remove this module then?
[06:35] <Ash-Fox> Anyone happen to know any hardware vendors like http://system76.com that sell high end laptops - linux supported in Europe?
[06:35] <stdin> kai: because on the ipod the 1st partition is the ipod "boot" partition, where the firmware is
[06:36] <kai> wow, your realy know wasup
[06:36] <kai> I didn't know that,, I thought it was the thing
[06:37] <intelikey> placo lsmod | less       and see what the module name is, compare with lshw | less    if needed  and add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   you can remove it at anytime...
[06:37] <kai> In amark is there an updat command I can update playlist and thing?
[06:37] <intelikey> placo you can test with  modprobe -r <modulename>    to see if that will produce the desired results.
[06:38] <intelikey> sudo that ^
[06:38] <gatillo> cedega works with intel 915??
[06:38] <stdin> there is a "transfir cue" in the media devices tab i think kai
[06:39] <dope> ok how would i stream a music file off a linux box to a windows box?
[06:39] <Ash-Fox> dope, you could use shoutcast, just like on windows.
[06:40] <dope> :O
[06:40] <kai> I found that but when I make a playlist it seems messed up lik it doesn't do anything and its empty
[06:41] <intelikey> placo  an alternate way would be to make a script that will remove the module if you click it.   or insert it if it has been removed...     that's what i'd do.    something like this example#  #!/bin/sh \n\n lsmod | grep nodname && kdesu modprobe -r nodname || kdesu modprobe modname
[06:42] <intelikey> placo where \n is  a new line and modname is the actual module name    make it executable and put it on the desktop or in your home and make a link to it in the menu or task bar
[06:42] <stdin> intelikey: why kdesu not sudo ?
[06:42] <Jucato> !yakuake > jordo23
[06:42] <stdin> intelikey: or why not, sudo script
[06:43] <intelikey> stdin so he can just click it and it will open a window for the passwd.
[06:43] <intelikey> stdin more gui friendly
[06:44] <intelikey> i know it's hard to believe as dumb as i am and as much as i typo and can't spell anything  but i have writen several scripts  both for the gui and for the cli
[06:45] <intelikey> only computer language i know is  "bash scripting"
[06:45] <stdin> intelikey: heh, me to :)
[06:46] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: should be a fan of kommander then
[06:47] <stdin> intelikey: I used kdialog in a bash script to ask me a login if I wanted to run beryl: now, later, or not at all
[06:47] <intelikey> Linux_Galore mc
[06:48] <intelikey> Linux_Galore oh no  xmessage for that.
[06:50] <stdin> I remember kqemu (a GUI not the module) was written in kommander
[06:50] <stdin> or it may have been kemu?
[06:51] <dope> ok i have a nfts partition on a linux machine that i want to access from a windows box, how do i do this
[06:51] <dope> it's just mp3s
[06:51] <intelikey> !samba
[06:51] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:52] <intelikey> and dope if you need read/write access you probably want !ntfs   also
[06:52] <intelikey> !ntfs
[06:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:55] <stdin> intelikey: you mean !ntfs-3g there ? "if you need read/write access"
[06:56] <intelikey> i meant the infonode that i typed that points you at that infonode and !fuse infonode and the wiki page.
[06:56] <intelikey> you/him/
[06:58] <matthew0507> hi i need to know how to change the OS order because im dual booting xp and kubuntu, it listed kubuntu as default to top but i want xp instead.
[06:59] <matthew0507> i need to know the gnub commands to do that
[06:59] <matthew0507> grub*
[06:59] <intelikey> matthew0507 edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:59] <matthew0507> thankyou :)
[06:59] <stdin> matthew0507: change "default (whatever)" to the correct number (starting at 0)
[07:00] <intelikey> matthew0507  kdesu kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   <<< actual command
[07:00] <lalo> need help
[07:00] <matthew0507> roger
[07:01] <intelikey> kedit or kwrite or kate or some-editor-you-like
[07:01] <stdin> lalo: with ?
[07:01] <intelikey>
[07:01] <ShuT> lol
[07:01] <intelikey> ?
[07:02] <intelikey> if i could get those two hooks togather i'd crush "<ShuT> lol"   with it.
[07:02] <intelikey> :)
[07:03] <matthew0507> any of you familiar with windows app such as speedfan and eazytune to change and control cpu fan speed? is there something like that to use on kubuntu?
[07:05] <intelikey> powermanagement-interface - platform neutral powermanagement interface
[07:05] <intelikey> powermgmt-base - Common utils and configs for power management
[07:05] <intelikey> might look into either or both of those ^
[07:05] <intelikey> i've never used them
[07:05] <matthew0507> thanks again
[07:06] <_Shade_> hi there
[07:07] <_Shade_> when can i expect herd2 to be released?
[07:07] <intelikey> matthew0507 also adept has a search feature  and the cli way to scan packages is     apt-cache search <string>    if you see something you want to know more about    apt-cache show <packagename>
[07:08] <intelikey> _Shade_ you running feisty ?
[07:09] <stdin> !feisty
[07:09] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:09] <_Shade_> intelikey: no i am not
[07:09] <intelikey> ah.  ok.
[07:09] <Jucato> _Shade_: maybe those in #ubuntu+1 would know when
[07:09] <intelikey> _Shade_ yeah that ^   maybe.
[07:09] <stdin> or just use the relesae scedual link there :)
[07:10] <stdin> *schedual
[07:10] <jughead> I'm an ubuntu user that installed KDE, and the fonts in KDE look very very bad.  Is there something I can do to fix this?
[07:10] <intelikey> stdin does that have herd schedualing ?
[07:11] <_Shade_> stdin: well it's planned today according to the schedule... just cant wait :)
[07:11] <intelikey> jughead change them.    kcontrol
[07:11] <stdin> intelikey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule yep, and appepently heed 2 is out today (January 11th)
[07:11] <vulcanius> wow... i keep thinking it's the 8th
[07:11] <jughead> I'll try that intelikey.  I don't want to change the style, just the rendering of them.. I can do that there?
[07:12] <intelikey> jughead  hit  alt+f2  and type in   kcontrol
[07:12] <stdin> jughead: should be in System Settings -> Apperance -> Fonts
[07:12] <jughead> I'm in Gnome right now does that matter?
[07:12] <intelikey> every thing you want to adjust is in there
[07:12] <intelikey> and if it's not, then right click it.
[07:13] <vulcanius> zomg, Mr Kim is locked out of the helm
[07:13] <jughead> let me change over to KDE brb thanks
[07:13] <intelikey> jughead ahhh probably.
[07:13] <vulcanius> and the starship voyager is adjusting it's course
[07:13] <jordo23> Where in KDE do you tell it not to display all windows on virtual desktops?
[07:13] <vulcanius> ZOMGWTFBBQWNED
[07:14] <intelikey> jordo23 in kcontrol or right click the desktop and configure it that way
[07:14] <_Shade_> hey guys i need to install flashplugin in edgy. Last time i needed that a nice konqueror notification appeared which guided me through the process smoothly but now it's gone...
[07:14] <vulcanius> anyone ever notice the Army commercials always feature a day talking to his son about how he never used to do something before?
[07:15] <stdin> jordo23: or right ckick on the pannel, choose "Confgiure Pannel", go to Taskbar, and deselect "Show windows from all desktops"
[07:15] <vulcanius> they make it sound like every person in the army is a lifetime fuckup who somehow becomes the perfect person because of the army
[07:15] <intelikey> would the son of a day be a morning ?
[07:15] <vulcanius> heh, dad*
[07:15] <intelikey> :)
[07:15] <Jucato> !offtopic
[07:16] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:16] <stdin> _Shade_: follow the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[07:16] <vulcanius> lol
[07:16] <jordo23> stdin: That's what I thought.....but the option is gone....like it disappeared!
[07:16] <jordo23> stdin: It's not there.....am I crazy??
[07:16] <jordo23> stdin: seriously....I know where it should be but it's not there...
[07:17] <Jucato> jordo23: maybe the guys in #ubuntu-xgl and #beryl would know
[07:17] <stdin> jordo23: I can see it, so you must be crazy
[07:17] <jordo23> stdin: right click on kicker, panel menu, configure panel, then under taskbar tab right?
[07:17] <intelikey> vulcanius not so far from the truth though in the simple sense that they have not done much of anything.  being 18 years old   and they do a lot of growing up really fast there    not that they were 'loosers' before, just kids.
[07:18] <stdin> jordo23: yep, it's the 1st check box i see there
[07:18] <jordo23> It's there now.....but it is deselected....
[07:19] <stdin> jordo23: then you shouldn't see all the windows on all desktops on it
[07:19] <jordo23> stdin: wierd, I do....but I think it's a Beryl conflict...
[07:19] <stdin> jordo23: ahh, beryl
[07:19] <stdin> jordo23: yeah, it don't work in beryl :P
[07:19] <jordo23> stdin: When I set for four different desktops and Beryl is running, it makes 4x4 or 16...
[07:20] <jordo23> stdin: Do you know this for a fact that it doesn't work in Beryl.....
[07:21] <stdin> jordo23: yeah, it isn't a feature in beryl, and the bug about it making 16 desktops when you switch back to kwin, I've already reported
[07:21] <stdin> jordo23: also, If you have a window minimised, then switch back to kwin, it will disapear :P
[07:21] <stdin> jordo23: not even alt-tab will see it
[07:22] <jordo23> stdin: Ok....thanks....then I am not crazy...I was just speaking with a Beryl dev trying to find that out but he had to go abruptly...
[07:22] <jordo23> stdin: Yeah....I find that Adept's Notifier is having problems on my system too...
[07:23] <stdin> beryl isn't classed as stable yet, so there are bound to be some issues
[07:23] <stdin> I compile it from cvs daily :)
[07:23] <intelikey> !beryl
[07:23] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:23] <stdin> I have version beryl-core 0.1.5-svn
[07:24] <stdin> intelikey: because we want da bling :)
[07:25] <intelikey> :)
[07:25] <stdin> there's also a how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[07:25] <stdin> *to
[07:25] <jordo23> stdin: I like Beryl, but not having virtual desktops kind of defeats part of it's main use...
[07:26] <intelikey> stdin yeah    that makes it look like it's officially supported
[07:26] <jordo23> stdin: I don't really see the point then with the cube...
[07:26] <jordo23> stdin: Under KDE at least..
[07:26] <stdin> jordo23: you'll still have 4 desktops (as the cube), but you'll just see all the windows open in the taskbar
[07:26] <stdin> intelikey: the clue is the external repos :P
[07:27] <jordo23> stdin: Yeah....I know, but then it really isn't like 4 independent desktops, more like one desktop with four sections...
[07:27] <intelikey> but clues are not noticed by nubys
[07:27] <stdin> intelikey: true dat
[07:28] <stdin> jordo23: if you want the bling, you have to put up with it for now, also you can post a bug report and see what responce you get, or ask in #beryl
[07:28] <jughead> My fonts look a lot better now thanks #kubuntu