[08:44] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, Im having similar problems
[08:44] <samekhmem> I have spent the past two hours trying to fix this
[08:44] <demetris_> exo mono ubuntu
[08:44] <daleharvey> Zeero: it went a bunch of places
[08:44] <SunlessHalo> yo
[08:44] <LexR> grub 1.94 i think beta is the new version in 9.10
[08:44] <demetris_> kai memtest
[08:44] <daleharvey> /etc/default/grub
[08:44] <LexR> what was the other file called?
[08:44] <filgy> Zeero: fresh 9.10 installs use grub 2.. an upgrade will still use grub1
[08:44] <Zeero> daleharvey: Erm...why?
[08:44] <Zeero> Ah!
[08:44] <Zeero> filgy explains it.
[08:44] <cviorel> And4713[LT], did you find some workarounds?
[08:44] <Zeero> Well that's odd.
[08:44] <alabd> Will ubuntu team (canonical) help to write a typographic book in other languages ??
[08:45] <LexR> ok, so in grub 2, which file do we have to edit?
[08:45] <SunlessHalo> please, how can I re-run my HDA Intel sound, if it actually doesn't load at all
[08:45] <samekhmem> i see a bunch of mixers
[08:45] <samekhmem> all of them maxed out
[08:45] <free1> skeftomai... ti marka einai o upologistis?
[08:45] <Admiral-Awesome> fresh install I noticed uses a beta grub2
[08:45] <demetris_> please save my win xp
[08:45] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, I have managed to get it to boot by commenting out /boot s entry in the fstab but that is hardly ideal
[08:45] <DJones> !gr | free1
[08:45] <demetris_> i dont want to fix mbr
[08:45] <daleharvey> I added stuff to /etc/default/grub then you need to sudo grub-update
[08:45] <LexR> demetris_, don't wworry, we only need to find a file to add xp path
[08:45] <SunlessHalo> !hda
[08:45] <daleharvey> thats only for options though
[08:45] <omar> Is there an IRC channel for Ubuntu repository administration?
[08:45] <samekhmem> th3raid0r, a bunch of mixers, all maxed out
[08:46] <demetris_> in god we trust :)
[08:46] <duncan_> Admiral-Awesome, I think most of the out of the box laptop functionality is coming from the kernel as I fixed all my issues in 9.04 by updating my kernel
[08:46] <LexR> !grub
[08:46] <LexR> !grub2
[08:46] <omar> *the* Ubuntu repos administration
[08:46] <demetris_> grub2 is buggy...
[08:46] <jmut> hi folks.        how do one take a full snap shot of ubuntu system.        Lets say I have another drive with partition of same size... is it possible that I just transfer whole ubuntu to that other partition
[08:46] <Zeero> Any advantage to having grub2?
[08:46] <demetris_> never had any prob with v1
[08:46] <free1> DJones: what's good with gtkpod and the new hash?
[08:46] <samekhmem> please help!
[08:46] <LexR> Zeero, not really, only better looking somone would say :)
[08:46] <th3raid0r> brb
[08:46] <duncan_> demetris_, I haven't had any issues with grub2 so far, what is it doing on your end?
[08:47] <DJones> free1: Sorry, I've not used it
[08:47] <odyi> Zeero: future themeing support!
[08:47] <Zeero> Better looking? It's white text on a black screen.
[08:47] <LexR> for day to day usage, no different than grub
[08:47] <demetris_> didnt put win xp on the selection screen
[08:47] <Zeero> I mean...at it's core.
[08:47] <cviorel> And4713[LT], the systems boots just fine, the message itself is harmless, since all partitions are mounted.
[08:47] <samekhmem> even though the mixers on alsamixer are maxed out it reads 0.00db
[08:47] <filgy> jmut: you could use 'dd' or any other number of programs to make a exact image of your hd or partition
[08:47] <demetris_> although it see xp on installation
[08:47] <DaveHope> Hi all. Great work on Karmic! (other than it broke my tty customisation). When you run 'aptitude update' it prints a status message, for example 'Current status: 4 updates [+4], 3623 new [+14]'. Is there a way to get this information without doing an aptitude update ?
[08:47] <demetris_> and ask me to import things from the partition
[08:47] <omar> Is there an IRC channel for the Ubuntu repository administration?
[08:47] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, mine does not continue past the message, it proceeds to wait indefinitely
[08:48] <coentakinte> #breunhild
[08:48] <filgy> DaveHope: apt-get update should print all updates available without having to download them
[08:48] <duncan_> demetris_, odd, it added my windows7 by default, I know during development there were some bugs, did you run from a development version or release?
[08:48] <Zeero> So what's grub2 like? Other than buggy.
[08:48] <samekhmem> please help - someone - I need help with my sound
[08:48] <demetris_> duncan: NO final
[08:48] <DaveHope> filgy: Thanks, But I just want to display a count of the pending updates to be installed.
[08:48] <Admiral-Awesome> I just want my sound to work better in regnum online and all is good in ubuntu world. I get sreaming sounds from OpAL
[08:49] <demetris_> installed yesterday night
[08:49] <filgy> DaveHope: that will list all pending updates
[08:49] <SunlessHalo> I need help with sound too... my HDA Intel main sound provider doesn't trigger at all
[08:49] <duncan_> demetris_, odd, file a bug report?
[08:49] <Zeero> samekhmem: Did you already check to make sure you had the asla drivers up to date?
[08:49] <demetris_> duncan_: first i need to fix this
[08:49] <LexR> demetris_, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 somewhere in the middle, you have a howto add new entry
[08:50] <DaveHope> flippo: Thanks, but I don't want the list of updates. I want a count of the updates that are needed based on the current package list information (I don't want to go and download it)
[08:50] <helpme> ineed help. 9.10 64 bit installedandwas working fine till reboot. now it hasa white box with mar@mark-desktop:$... not sure what todo
[08:50] <samekhmem> Zeero, how do I do that please?
[08:50] <jmut> filgy: thank you
[08:50] <Zeero> Someone suggested it a while back.
[08:50] <melrockz> I got a problem with virtualbox 3.0.10; usb devices cannot be connected to the VM. Plz help.
[08:50] <skx> hm, is Ubuntu One working? I can't connect
[08:50] <duncan_> Zeero, I think the main reason for grub was that it has default support for ext4, support for it in 1.5 was hacked in if I remember
[08:50] <cviorel> And4713[LT], you should try fsck...
[08:50] <thedude42> melrockz, did you download virtualbox from Sun's site?
[08:50] <melrockz> yes
[08:50] <duncan_> Zeero, grub 2 that is
[08:50] <Admiral-Awesome> I have problems with ubuntu one aswel
[08:51] <thedude42> melrockz, how did you configure USB?
[08:51] <LexR> is there a gui app to add/remove grub2 entries? if there is, you can simply install it from the repo and add xp manually from there.
[08:51] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, it said the partitions were clean
[08:51] <melrockz> ?
[08:51] <Zeero> samekhmem: Open up Synaptic and search for alsa. See if you have any packages installed for it.
[08:51] <helpme> i need help. 9.10 64 bit installed and was working fine till reboot. now it has a white box with mark@mark-desktop:$... not sure what to do
[08:52] <omar> Why didn't Firefox 3.5.4  hit the repos yet?
[08:52] <Zeero> And to the rest of you: Well...I have an upgrade...so I don't get to notice anything different.
[08:52] <thedude42> melrockz, at some point during the creation of the VM you would have had to tell it what devices to use on the USB bus
[08:52] <Azeotrope> I have a special terminal profile for irssi and I want to make a shortcut to quick access irssi in this profile. anyone can help me? geometry is 184x55 (or fullscreen)
[08:52] <duncan_> omar, too busy getting drunk after release? :p
[08:52] <melrockz> i didnt add any usb filters
[08:52] <helpme> karmic has serious bugs
[08:52] <Shwack> #unimatrix - looks like this problem has been around for lots of people and multiple releases :(
[08:52] <melrockz> even if i add, it doesnt work.
[08:52] <om26er1> helpme: you need serious help
[08:52] <omar> duncan_, what?
[08:52] <SunlessHalo> Zeero: my sound server worked well and is uptodate... it just didn't start today morning and since then It hasn't started yet
[08:53] <demetris_> i thing i fix it
[08:53] <demetris_> sudo update-grub
[08:53] <duncan_> omar, karmic release party, in all seriousness probably packaging and testing delays
[08:53] <helpme> i don't know what happened
[08:53] <LexR> demetris_, yeah, try that
[08:53] <thedude42> melrockz, is it a windows VM?
[08:53] <demetris_> Generating grub.cfg ...
[08:53] <demetris_> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic
[08:53] <demetris_> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
[08:53] <omar> duncan_, I see.
[08:53] <demetris_> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[08:53] <demetris_> Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/sda1
[08:53] <FloodBot3> demetris_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:53] <demetris_> done
[08:53] <melrockz> host ubuntu9.04 guest winXp
[08:53] <Zeero> Aha! I think I finally killed off all of the rogue Xubuntu stuff.
[08:53] <LexR> helpme, what happened?
[08:53] <filgy> melrockz: are you sure you are using vb from sun? the open source edition of vb that is in the ubuntu repos does not support usb devices in host machines iirc
[08:54] <examancer> demetris_: so, success?
[08:54] <Zeero> There was a usplash package that snuck its way onto my netbook, here.
[08:54] <Zeero> Sneaky little mouse.
[08:54] <melrockz> ya, the PUEL version
[08:54] <Zeero> Zeero has found you, yes.
[08:54] <StupidWeasel> Heh heh
[08:54] <helpme> i rebooted and there is a white terminal screen. i don't know what to type
[08:54] <Zeero> And now...he shall squash you!
[08:54] <demetris_> i have to reboot to check? or is there aother way?
[08:54] <Zeero> I'm going to make sure my boot is satisfactory, now.
[08:54] <Zeero> Back soon.
[08:54] <LexR> demetris_, reboot, and if there is windwos line at the bottom, you fixed it :)
[08:55] <LexR> helpme, what happened before reboot?
[08:55] <demetris_> ok i''ll be back
[08:55] <LexR> k
[08:55] <demetris_> thanks lexr!
[08:55] <Shwack> Does anyone know of the fix for youtube videos running very slow in fullscreen mode?
[08:55] <LexR> np :)
[08:55] <filgy> melrockz: sounds like a vb and not ubuntu issue then
[08:55] <duncan_> i'm really just waiting for 10.04, it seems they push alot of new software in between the LTSs to get them ready
[08:55] <helpme> nothing. everything was working. i updated flash and had to do some blacklist command to get usb wireless adapter working
[08:55] <ababa> hello i have a little problem with my mouse. for example if i want to create a new package in eclipse and if i click on finish to creat the package it dont work. or if i go to youtube and watch a non-hd video i cant click on pause or play. only if i watch hd videos i can click on those things. how to fix it?
[08:55] <helpme> was working fine until i rebooted and have this white screen
[08:55] <mozz^> onnect
[08:56] <ababa> i use ubuntu 9.10 on a dell latitude e5500
[08:56] <daleharvey> omg, I have a normal install
[08:56] <helpme> if i type exit it prompts me to log in.. after that it comes back
[08:56] <filgy> helpme: it sounds like gdm puked if it is booting straight to that terminal window with no window decorations
[08:57]  * Avash notifies about new channel #avash
[08:57] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, just retried it to be sure, filesystem is healthy
[08:57] <helpme> remedy? reinstall?
[08:58] <LexR> I did a clean install of kubuntu last night, and it went OK, but i did not have the time to test it thoroughly...
[08:58] <omar> duncan_, so it might take a couple days until the latest FF version is added to the repos?
[08:58] <filgy> helpme: maybe try typing 'sudo runlevel 3' in that terminal
[08:58] <duncan_> omar, yes
[08:58]  * Avash notifies about new channel #laptop
[08:58] <melrockz> so is there an IRC for virtualbox? I cant find one...
[08:58] <cviorel> And4713[LT], do you have some hard drive compatibility settings in your computer's bios?
[08:58] <filgy> helpme: that should drop you to straight command line.. login there as your user and try typing startx
[08:59] <daleharvey> one problem
[08:59] <daleharvey> wireless doesnt work without acpi :(
[08:59]  * Avash notifies about new channel #laptop
[08:59] <LexR> I only installed kubuntu because it has kmix with many channels in sound mixer, and ubuntu has a new one which I do not like. I use front mic, and i need to set it working, I don't know how in this new one :)
[08:59] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, I dont see how those would be relevant, it has worked perfectly for the last 2 releases
[09:00] <helpme> no such file or dir
[09:00] <cviorel> And4713[LT], yeap, I know, same here, but maybe thy broke something on the way :)
[09:00] <melrockz> I got a problem with virtualbox 3.0.10; usb devices cannot be connected to the VM. Plz help.
[09:01] <alabd> Will ubuntu team (canonical) help to write a typographic book in other languages ??  like give some sources and materials for some parts of book ? or money for printing it ? is here a member from canonical ?
[09:01] <helpme> i guess i will just reinstall and hope they send out a patch soon
[09:01] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, I t has something to do with that one in particular since both / and /var mount just fine
[09:01] <filgy> helpme: something sounds mighty messed up then.. could be hardware failure.. i'd suggest trying to reinstall if you don't have any data to lose
[09:01] <shadypixie3> anyway to change treble/bass/etc in PulseAudio?
[09:01] <helpme> i think they rushed karmic. this seems like a beta
[09:02] <helpme> have all data on separate hdd
[09:02] <RussellAlan> the release seems more beta then the pre releases
[09:02] <Brent> anyone free to help me with a sli question?
[09:02] <filgy> helpme: if those commands are not found then i'm assuming the system is not booting properly at all.. could be hd corruption.. could be a million other things
[09:02] <kankan_> facing big problem with logging in ..
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | Brent
[09:03] <kankan_> getting a blank screen..
[09:03] <Kartagis> I did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but Firefox still shows me 9.04 homepage
[09:03] <cviorel> And4713[LT], some people managed to resolve their issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1301766
[09:03] <cviorel> And4713[LT], didn't work for me :(
[09:03] <filgy> Kartagis: first off.. NEVER do a release upgrade via apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:03] <jcdutton> helpme, Can you log in ?
[09:03] <jimbeam12> hi
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> Kartagis: change it to 9.10 if it bothers you
[09:03] <helpme> i just spent like an hour tweaking everything the way i liked it then rebooted now this... i'm gonna try one more time before reverting to 9.04
[09:03] <Brent> !ask
[09:03] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, Ill take a look see
[09:04] <helpme> i canlog in but it takes me to the terminal window
[09:04] <demetris_> hi am back
[09:04] <filgy> helpme: so you are getting the normal graphical login screen?
[09:04] <jimbeam12> does anyone know a program thats monitors the quads cpu usage and temperatures for each core...
[09:04] <helpme> if i type exit it promps login splash screen
[09:04] <demetris_> win xp are ok
[09:04] <helpme> yes
[09:04] <bigon> hi, I'm trying to install karmic on machine with intel wifi (that need iwlang) and it seems that the module is not on the installer
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> jimbeam12: lm-sensors
[09:04] <jimbeam12> hey action
[09:04] <jimbeam12> tried that ..
[09:04] <demetris_> grub2 is fixed
[09:05] <Brent> I have 2x geforce 7800 gts. after i installed the nvidia drive (185), i get no signal when ubuntu boots up. to fix it, i took one of the video cards out, and everything worked fine. how would i get a signal with both cards in, then enable sli?
[09:05] <filgy> helpme: try changing your default desktop or session or whatever it is labeled at the login screen for your user
[09:05] <Brianetta> Morning.  Is anybody else having trouble with Compiz on an ATI card after upgrading?  I have a white screen.  Metacity with compositing works fine.
[09:05] <demetris_> but i ask why they use beta versions especially on bootloaders
[09:05] <jcdutton> helpme, it sounds like you window manager is not configured correctly.
[09:05] <jimbeam12> it only shows me the temperatures of my graphics cards
[09:05] <JGodbout> I have a fairly fresh install of 9.04 (a month or so old) which is working pretty nicely. Is there much chance that upgrading (not reinstalling) to 9.10 will cause any problems? The word on the street is that upgrading isn't as reliable as reinstalling.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> jimbeam12: did you run: sudo sensors-detect
[09:05] <jimbeam12> hmm ok let me check
[09:05] <helpme> i did dl compiz and configure the cube
[09:05] <jcdutton> helpme, at the login screen, enter your username but not your password. You should then get a choice of window managers
[09:05] <helpme> dunno if there is a conflict there
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> jimbeam12: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[09:05] <kankan_> having problem with GRUB..
[09:06] <filgy> helpme: sounds like that is the problem then
[09:06] <Fayd> hi....can anyone help me with setting up a bootloader for an installed ubuntu?
[09:06] <LexR> helpme, did you set autologin?
[09:06] <kankan_> how to downgrade?
[09:06] <helpme> yes
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> !downgrade | kankan_
[09:06] <helpme> autologin
[09:06] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, unfortunately I have seen this thread, although I will try to get any unfinished updates
[09:06] <iceroot> kankan_: reinstall
[09:06] <filgy> helpme: compiz may not support your video card.. or your video card may not be configured correctly ...
[09:06] <shadypixie3> anyway to change treble/bass/etc in PulseAudio?
[09:06] <helpme> it worked fine in 9.04
[09:07] <Kartagis> lsb_release -c
[09:07] <Kartagis> Codename:	jaunty
[09:07] <Shwack> Looking for help with flash videos running slow in fullscreen
[09:07] <LexR> maybe it is some config file in your home dir. try adding another user and login as that user, if it works, it is the settings of some sort possibly compiz. I had a simiral problem on kubuntu 9.04, fixed it by changing user name :) helpme
[09:07] <Brianetta> helpme: What's tyour video card?
[09:07] <kankan_> i am facing problem with logging in ,getting blank screen.is that a problem of new GRUB?
[09:07] <demetris_> is there a way i can install the last version of ati drivers that supported my grfx card on 9.10
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: have you installed and configured video drivers?
[09:07] <helpme> my wireless usb did also tho.. had to blacklist it for it to work in karmic
[09:07] <FiReSTaRT> just a quick announcement.. they fixed the flashplugin-nonfree and skype packages, so they're ready to dl :)
[09:07] <demetris_> current osd are not good
[09:07] <helpme> intel 945g
[09:07] <helpme> i think
[09:07] <Kartagis> dist-upgrade didn't work
[09:07] <helpme> its onboard
[09:07] <FiReSTaRT> elaboration: for karmic :)
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> kankan_: the login screen is nothing to do with grub
[09:07] <Brianetta> Hmm
[09:07] <denubis> I have a query: I'm facing the same USB modem problems as in:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1232014 I upgraded to 9.10 today (which theoretically has the latest kernel?). I can connect successfuly on an older kernel, but not with the latest. The thread's suggestion (upgrade to the latest kernel) isn't all that useful as there isn't a stable version. What questions should I be asking to fix this problem? Also, how do I report that the default A
[09:07] <Shwack> actionparsnip1 yes - installed and tried newest version of flash
[09:08] <jimbeam12> hmm telling me unknow adapter ??? when i run lm sesors
[09:08] <normit08> hi all
[09:08] <Brianetta> Mine's an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, and Compiz appears to be broken on that, too.
[09:08] <aprilhare> anyone notice tor in the repos is broken?
[09:08] <Fayd> I recently installed ubuntu alongside vista.   The bootmanager that ubuntu installed apparently isnt to be found.  I dont know which HDD it was installed to.  how do i configure either bootmgr in vista to recognize the ubuntu install, or install grub to the right drive?
[09:08] <filgy> Kartagis: upgrading to a new release via apt-get dist-upgrade has a HIGH chance of breaking your system.. do not try it
[09:08] <normit08> I solved the usb modem problem
[09:08] <kankan_> ActionParsnip1:so what cud be the prob?/
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: does: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf      ONLY output flashplugin-nonfree
[09:08] <denubis> normit08: how?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> kankan_: does it happen if you log on as another user?
[09:09] <kankan_> yes..
[09:09] <normit08> when you connect it, it will pop up as a cd drive. right click and safely remove then you can connect
[09:09] <filgy> Kartagis: you want to upgrade by doing apt-get install update-manager-core running sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:09] <Shwack> it returns flashplugin-isntaller and flashplugin-nonfree
[09:09] <helpme> i think it happened because i was praising the new release too much
[09:09] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, I have a question, which filesystem are you using for your /boot
[09:09] <normit08> it is a partial solution
[09:09] <helpme> reboot broke my system
[09:10] <demetris_> i need to install catalyst 9.3 on my 9.10 karmic
[09:10] <denubis> normit08: Gah. That's a hack... "safely remove" okay... is there a better fix that I can throw into fstab?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> kankan_: well thats interesting, so it wont be user settings as it happens to another user
[09:10] <demetris_> is that possible?
[09:10] <cviorel> And4713[LT], I am using EXT4 for all my partitions
[09:10] <normit08> if you can right a script to eject it automatically then you dont have to do it manually
[09:10] <sobersabre> hi.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> demetris_: then download it from www.ati.com and run it
[09:10] <sobersabre> I need help with nvidia card.
[09:10] <sobersabre> Ihave this card:
[09:10] <DigitalKiwi> normit08: writing a script is not the ubuntu way!
[09:10] <jcdutton> Fayd, dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, the last config screen will tell you which device grub will install on.
[09:10] <LexR> demetris_, I think you can install newer version, 9.10 is out. I used 9.9 on jaunty
[09:11] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:11] <sobersabre> 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS] (rev a1)
[09:11] <normit08> im looking fo a script as we speak
[09:11] <sobersabre> I have upgraded jaunty to karmic.
[09:11] <normit08> well as a said, it is a temporary solution
[09:11] <demetris_> lexr: where i can find it
[09:11] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, see I am using ext2 for /boot and then ext3 for / and /var, I wonder if that has something to do with it
[09:11] <kankan_> ActionParsnip1:i have only one use..it happens in karmic only
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: ok, can you keep your text to 1 line, makes it easier to read
[09:11] <sobersabre> And nvidia doesn't work as now.
[09:11] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: it returns flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree
[09:11] <danitetus> one question please... the repositories are overloaded??? They don't work!!
[09:11] <Fayd> jcdutton, do i do that from a liveCD?  as i can't boot into the installed ubuntu install right now
[09:11] <denubis> normit08: Right. Thank you for your assistance. I'll try your fix "safely remove" and report back. Thank you.
[09:11] <demetris_> 9.10 dont support 9600 pro!
[09:11] <ActionParsnip1> kankan_: boot to root recovery console and make a new user to test
[09:11] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: ok. I need to force rebuild the kernel driver, probably with dkms, but I don't know how to do this.
[09:11] <demetris_> or is?
[09:11] <normit08> anywho, my question is, with empathy i can see anyone in the people nearby thing
[09:11] <LexR> demetris_, you have two options: install fglrx from the repo (9.9) or download from ati site veriosn 9.10.
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: uninstall both, then install flashplugin-nonfree   only, you will need to close then reopen your browser
[09:12] <demetris_> lexr: does it support 9600 ?
[09:12] <sobersabre> how do I make my system build the nvidia driver ?
[09:12] <jcdutton> Fayd, yes, you can use the liveCD for that
[09:12] <daleharvey> ok, had to install alternative, how do I let make karmic login automatically?
[09:12]  * daleharvey the new login screen is nasty btw
[09:12] <normit08> but i must say this is a very nice release.
[09:12] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:12] <cviorel> And4713[LT], I am pretty sure is not an issue, this bug afects all filesystem types.... I also tried ext3, same behaviour
[09:12] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:12] <sobersabre> daleharvey: google up autologin
[09:12] <DigitalKiwi> daleharvey: really? it was getting mad reviews before
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[09:12] <sobersabre> and you have it in gdm settings.
[09:12] <Sinistrad> /Nick ki4cgp
[09:13] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:13] <LexR> demetris_, just a sec...
[09:13] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: karmic
[09:13] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I did this and it automatically selected flashplugin-installer to install with it.  I will uninstall both and try again making sure only flashplugin-nonfree is checked.  Brb.
[09:13] <Fayd> i found a piece of software called freebcd that claims to set up boot.ini to allow for other os's... but when i tell it to go to the linux partition, it doesn't work
[09:13] <normit08> Oh, is there a way i can make my wireless turn off with a keyboard shortcut
[09:13] <demetris_> ok
[09:13] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, yes but yours displayed the message and booted all the way, whereas mine did not finish booting
[09:13] <Fayd> do i need to install grub to the linux partition?
[09:13] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:13] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:13] <samekhmem> Please help. I have tried everything. I have -no- sound.
[09:13] <FloodBot3> samekhmem: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:13] <JGodbout> I have a fairly fresh install of 9.04 (a month or so old) which is working pretty nicely. Is there much chance that upgrading (not reinstalling) to 9.10 will cause any problems? The word on the street is that upgrading isn't as reliable as reinstalling.
[09:13] <DarkCore> guys
[09:13] <DarkCore> I have a quick question
[09:13] <rafiq>  a black shadow blocks my screen when many tabs are open..is there any way to fix it?
[09:13] <sobersabre> kernel: Linux computer 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:13] <samekhmem> I have no sound PLEASE HELP
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-185-modaliases nvidia-glx-185
[09:13] <cviorel> And4713[LT], yes. that's true
[09:13] <Coldhak> I started with the server version, and installed all the desktops(gnome, kde, xfce4, fluxbox, etc) over time. I no longer have a cdrom, but I want to get a fresh start.
[09:13] <DarkCore> How compatible with .NET is mono?
[09:13] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: trying...
[09:13] <nick> samekhmem: patience
[09:13] <Coldhak> how do I remove all that stuff?
[09:14] <daleharvey> cheers sobersabre
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: use the nonfree only, the installer package may be confusing stuff
[09:14] <LexR> demetris_, i dont think so, on amd's site, 9600 prompts 9.3 version. just download it and install it. it is a shell script, just run it as sudo and click next next finish :)
[09:14] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: Already installed.
[09:14] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: Mark for removal or Mark for Complete Removal?
[09:14] <jcdutton> Fayd, use the livecd to reinstall grub-pc
[09:14] <DigitalKiwi> normit08: you sure you should be using ubuntu and not something else more suitable for what you seem to want in a system?
[09:14] <demetris_> LEXR: will do that!
[09:14] <demetris_> thanks man
[09:14] <LexR> i have 4650, it works like that :)
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: then run: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[09:15] <LexR> you're welcome demetris_ :)
[09:15] <jcdutton> Fayd, it should automatically detect your linux and windows and them provide you with a grub boot menu to choose linux or windows
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: then reboot, then rerun the command I gave
[09:15] <demetris_> reboot to linux!
[09:15] <demetris_> i hope i dont break anything
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: just use command line, less confusing
[09:15] <normit08> i definatly want ubuntu. all i want to be able to do is use the wireless slider. i have been using ubuntu for 2 years now
[09:15] <demetris_> fingers crossed
[09:15] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: I don't have to reboot, since the drivers are NOT present currently.
[09:15] <DigitalKiwi> normit08: k
[09:15] <LexR> keep ya fingers crossed at all times :-p
[09:15]  * Avash notifies every one who are fun lovers to join channe #avash which is truly a fun channel
[09:15] <Fayd> i'll try that now.
[09:16] <jcdutton> Fayd, it is possible that grub was not able to install on your HD. One reason is that there is not enough space in the boot sectors for it.
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: fine, but they may be loaded, just not working.   I have been watching terminal intro videos but dont have complete confidence yet
[09:16] <billdozor> Coldhak: might be easier just to do a fresh install...i don't think there is a way to remove just xfce or things like that, as the xfce desktop is a pointer to all the packages that get installed
[09:16] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: NO, they're not loaded, lsmod doesn't show them.
[09:16] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I just got ubuntu this week :)
[09:16] <jcdutton> Fayd, a "fdisk -u -l /dev/sda" should tell you how much space there is. The first "start" should be 63 or above
[09:16] <billdozor> *without removing each of the packages individually
[09:16] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: are nvidia drivers supposed to be shown in lsmod when loaded ?
[09:16] <sobersabre> :)
[09:16] <helpme> at the login splash screen i have option to log into ubuntu or my main account. as soon as i authenticate it produces the terminal window and nothing else
[09:17] <bastid_raZor> Coldhak: you want just gnome?
[09:17] <Armageddon> I have a problem with my webcam, used to work on Jaunty now it doesn't on Karmic, any idea ?
[09:17] <Orangez> Does someone know how i can get my internal speaker to work?
[09:17] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: terminal..intro..VIDEOS? I am pretty sure that's the most disgusting thing I've heard all week
[09:17] <sobersabre> OH! it builds finally!
[09:17] <sobersabre> :)
[09:17] <LexR> helpme, did you create a new user?
[09:17] <lowlycoder> how do i tell ubuntu, at gdm, to use .xession instead of gnome?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: in terminal run: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:17] <helpme> i created a user when i installed
[09:17] <Armageddon> lowlycoder: at login, there is that option
[09:17] <dto> lowlycoder: i think it's the session option at login bottom screen
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: i believe so
[09:18] <Cantcme> hey guys im on windows 7 now and i want to shrink my partition so i can make room for ubuntu, problem is i can only shrink 1mb, anyone know of any programs that moves files located at the end of the partition to towards the start?
[09:18] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: http://cb.vu/unixtoolbox.xhtml this is good
[09:18] <Shwack> DigitalKiwi: using the terminal has helped me with plenty sorry if I didn't use the correct terms
[09:18] <bastid_raZor> billdozor: there is a way, check out the !purekde and !puregnome factoids..
[09:18] <goodboy_> hello !my amule 2.2.6 kad firewalled how to do??
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: yes it does
[09:18] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: no I'm not against the terminal, I spend most of my time in one, I'm against the idea of videos showing how to use it
[09:18] <LexR> compiz probably broke, and it tries to start when you log in, thus the screen. Maybe I am mistaken.
[09:18] <Coldhak> bastid_razor: no, I want just what comes with the server version
[09:19] <helpme> i'm a noob. its prolly something i did when installing flash. frustrating because everything worked great till i decided to reboot
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> Cantcme: a defrag may help, never resized personally. I always plan my partitions
[09:19] <billdozor> re bastide_raZor: good to know, thanks
[09:19] <Coldhak> i'm asking if there's an easy way to make the the install like-new, or if I've got to figure out how to get a cdrom.
[09:19] <lowlycoder> Armageddon , dto : I only see xterm, gnome, and gnome failsafe
[09:19] <Shwack> DigitalKiwi: lol - well surprisingly just seeing ls, ls -a,   running a program with ./       just those few things made all the diff
[09:19] <SunlessHalo> ActionParsnip1: please, my HDA Audio hasn't started since few last boots... how could I re-enable it?
[09:19] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: http://omploader.org/vMjgyag
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> SunlessHalo: ask the channel, not me
[09:19] <Armageddon> lowlycoder: do you have xsession installed ?
[09:19] <LexR> I cannot claim that is the problem, mine problem was similar on kde4, when I enabled compiz, it broke the similar way.
[09:19] <jonte> hi!when i am start the install of wubi it's came up windows-no disk why?
[09:20] <Cantcme> ActionParsnip1: yeh ive used the defragger built it in windows but it doesnt seem very good, so im about to try one by auslogic
[09:20] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: Thanks, man. the problem was as follows: the upgrade was interrupted in the middle. as a result I had to boot into single mode (with still jaunty kernel), and there to run dpkg --configure -a. then the drivers for the old kernel were built
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> SunlessHalo: and in reply. I dont know how to resolve sound issues as Ive never had a single sound issue
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: awesome
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: glad you got the gold
[09:20] <helpme> now it won't install from the usb either
[09:20] <SunlessHalo> well... my issue is that my HDA Audio hasn't started since few last boots... how could I re-enable it?
[09:20] <Dada_> hey guys, does anyone know how I can install ubuntu without installing grub/lilo at all?
[09:20] <jonte> do you now wh
[09:21] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[09:21] <helpme> just sits there with a shiny ubuntu icon
[09:21] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I wish I knew all the commands you do
[09:21] <lowlycoder> is xsessin package lxsession?
[09:21] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip1: and then after reboot the karmic kernel had no drivers, and it started the annoying blinkage... so I had to do the dancing over ssh,
[09:21] <sobersabre> the --purge was the key thing.
[09:21] <sobersabre> thanks.
[09:21] <Coldhak> DaDa_, you could probably install a different bootloader, but as far as I know, you need to have one.
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: you'll learn what you need to know as you use the terminal
[09:21] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: read that firrst link I gave you and you're off to a good start
[09:21] <LexR> Dada_, I dunno, I think you need a bootloader.
[09:21] <SunlessHalo> Dada_: if you are using the basic install CD, in last step you may press "advanced options" and "don't install boot loader"
[09:21] <Armageddon> Dada_: yes, when you install, the last phase, you get to choose if to or not install a bootloader
[09:21] <Dada_> Coldhak: I have one already, so I only need to prevent it from installing anything over it
[09:21] <helpme> gonna look for windows 7 disk
[09:21] <Dada_> ahh, okay
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> sobersabre: --purge gets rid of the old config files that arent in ~
[09:22] <Dada_> Thanks
[09:22] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: it just finished - testing now - fingers crossed
[09:22] <Shootfast> Hi folks, the ubuntu installer isnt detecting my hard disks correctly. It thinks theyre in a raid, and wont let me pick an individual disk
[09:22] <Armageddon> Dada_: why not ? the new grub works fine
[09:22]  * Dada_ uses chameleon boot loader
[09:22] <Armageddon> Dada_: ok
[09:22] <Dada_> because I also boot Mac OS X
[09:22] <Gunk> hi all, anybody had issues installing on virtualbox?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: i'm sure theres some stuff you could show me in other OSs
[09:22] <Armageddon> Gunk: what's the issue ?
[09:22] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: I'm using Kubuntu Karmic
[09:23] <LexR> :) how do you display that sort of a messge? (Dada_ uses chameleon boot loader)
[09:23] <SunlessHalo> up-to-date
[09:23] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: and you have a problem with what exactly ?
[09:23] <Mowind> anyone had any luck enabling desktop effects on intel 82845G onboard?
[09:23] <Dada_> LexR: use /me blah blah
[09:23]  * Dada_ hello
[09:23] <LexR> thanx Dada_
[09:23]  * DigitalKiwi blah blah
[09:23] <Gunk> arma: i hope it's a rtfm issue, but everytime i choose install it seems to start up the live-cd
[09:23] <DigitalKiwi> by golly, it worked!
[09:23] <Gunk> i.e. i'm presented with a login screen
[09:23] <SunlessHalo> the sound used to be fine, except some crashes caused by amaroK
[09:24] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: and now it doesn't work ?
[09:24] <Armageddon> are you using ALSA driver ?
[09:24] <Armageddon> Gunk: I don't quite get your problem
[09:24] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: but, today morning the sound just didn't load... pulseaudio plays the system bell, but the main sound Inte HDA Realtek ALC660-VD doesn't work at all
[09:24] <Armageddon> !kubuntu | SunlessHalo
[09:25] <jimbeam12> hey action ran lm sensors and it didnt recognize the graphic card...(unknown adapter)
[09:25] <jack_spratt> Can someone help me connect my wireless from CLI??
[09:25] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: I hardly suppose the problem could be treated differently
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> jimbeam12: thats all i know dude. i don't use sensors
[09:25] <Gunk> with 9.04 if i chose install, the install would startup, i could choose location, disk, etc etc. There was no login screen
[09:25] <iceroot> jack_spratt: look at iwconfig
[09:25] <SunlessHalo> in the other channel
[09:25] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: HDA is out from HDMI
[09:25] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: Video playback in fullscreen is dramatically improved.  It only lags when moving my mouse around in circles.   Before if i did this it would take 5-10 seconds to recover after moving mouse in circles - now it takes about 1-2 seconds to recover.
[09:25] <jimbeam12> is there any other program i can use
[09:25] <jack_spratt> icreroot
[09:25] <Gunk> but with 9.10 i'm presented with a login box
[09:25] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: I don't think it will work on your speakers if they are not plugged HDMI
[09:26] <NKjoep> got any problem with sun jdk and koala?
[09:26] <Gunk> before the install even begins
[09:26] <jack_spratt> iceroot: will that change the way it connects once I get back into gui? I just want to connect temporarily and not mess up my existing configuration for gui
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: yeah the installer packge is a bit weird in my experience. Ipersonally use the native 64bit plugin (which is alpha) but runs well
[09:26] <iceroot> NKjoep: why should it?
[09:26] <Jahithber> i have read about new 9.10 that will starts faster than 9.04 :P
[09:26] <Armageddon> Gunk: login screen where you put your password and stuff, there is an option there to choose which DE to login into
[09:26] <kankan_> after selecting ubuntu 9.10 from grub menu .when i hit enter after sometime the screen gets blank.
[09:26] <Jahithber> but its starting slower after update
[09:26] <Jahithber> :p
[09:26] <LexR> old sound app was waaaay better.
[09:26] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: I am using centrino1duo asus laptop, the HDA was responsible for all sound
[09:26] <iceroot> jack_spratt: dont think so
[09:26] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: it hardly seems right for a HT 3.4 Ghz with 2gigs ram and nvidia 8800 to be stuttering at all though
[09:26] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: I'd try another option then the HDA
[09:26] <NKjoep> iceroot: every time i click a "cancel" button... eclipse simply die....
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: flash sucks
[09:27] <g33k> apache2-ssl-certificate: command not found, need help apache2-commons installed
[09:27] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: as somebody who never stopped writing html in notepad.exe, i agree
[09:27] <dto> should i install chromium?
[09:27] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: try internal audio
[09:27] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: explain me, please
[09:27] <jack_spratt> iceroot: thanks :)
[09:27]  * DigitalKiwi hands SunlessHalo a 'to'
[09:27] <Brianetta> Right, my problem is that I'm running a software OpenGL emulator.  Can anybody hint as to why that might be?
[09:27] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: But, I can watch my videos now thanks to you.  Thank you very much.
[09:28] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: well I use gnome so it is fairly different that's why you need people using KDE to help, BUT on gnome, I go to sound preferences, I choose Hardware and I choose which one to use
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: well its proprietary to adobe so it can only be improved by adobe so you re screwed unless you use the open alternatives that dont implement some functionality in the adobe flash
[09:28] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: I have an internal Audio and an HDMI one
[09:28] <Gunk> all i see is a coffee coloured screen with a the ubuntu logo and a login button beneath it, this is the first thing i see after pressing install at the cd-boot menu
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> s/re/are
[09:28] <SunlessHalo> ok,
[09:28]  * SunlessHalo switches to gnome now
[09:28] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: with inputs and outputs
[09:28] <kankan_> serious problem!! getting blank screen after logging in.
[09:28] <samekhmem> My Sound Icon is gone. When I try to access Sound Preferences I get "Waiting for sound system to respond" and I have NO audio at all. PLEASE HELP!!!
[09:28] <Armageddon> :/
[09:29] <Armageddon> samekhmem: which version of ubuntu ?
[09:29] <DigitalKiwi> he needs more screen + irssi
[09:29] <samekhmem> Armageddon, 9.10
[09:29] <nimrod0> !help
[09:29] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I'm fine with that - I'm loving linux and the open source scene and would rather throw up than go back to windows.
[09:29] <Armageddon> samekhmem: did you update
[09:29] <samekhmem> Armageddon,  apt-get update? yes
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: same, except my work lappy is XP
[09:29] <Armageddon> samekhmem: apt-get upgrade too
[09:30] <Shwack> XP is nice - Vista pushed me to try linux and i'm glad i did
[09:30] <samekhmem> Armageddon, did that
[09:30] <Shwack> Vista was on par with mac
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: random BSODs in 2000 I couldnt diagnose pushed me to linux
[09:30] <Armageddon> samekhmem: try opening the hardware Drivers does it open ?
[09:30] <samekhmem> Armageddon, yes, and it lists a video card.
[09:31] <billdozor> Is apt-get autoremove safe to do?
[09:31] <Armageddon> did you install that ?
[09:31] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I'll admit watching a youtube video of the Cube is what sealed the deal.... lol
[09:31] <Armageddon> samekhmem: did you install that ?
[09:31] <Armageddon> billdozor: yes
[09:31] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, same story when mounting it as ext3 the question is why only the /boot partition, grub isnt complaining about it
[09:31] <samekhmem> Armageddon, yes. it was effortless, I installed it while trying to get audio working
[09:31] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: i hate the cube, LXDE baby
[09:31] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: ;_; if you mean the compiz cube...
[09:31] <jimbeam12> sensors detect generates this report as follows..... #modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter
[09:31] <DigitalKiwi> lxde is not that nice
[09:31] <Armageddon> samekhmem: did you restart after installing all updates and drivers ?
[09:31] <stoned> cr
[09:31] <samekhmem> Armageddon, I opened up hardware drivers and it asked if i wanted to upgrade to proprietary drivers
[09:31] <samekhmem> Armageddon, i did
[09:32] <samekhmem> Armageddon, i have multiple times during this ordeal
[09:32] <Armageddon> samekhmem: and the sound still doesn't work ?
[09:32]  * SunlessHalo re on gnome
[09:32] <Vegar> how on earth do you disable the password prompt on resume from suspend?
[09:32] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: what shall I also do now?
[09:32] <Armageddon> samekhmem: did you try opening the sound options ?
[09:32] <samekhmem> Armageddon, worse, I can't even access the sound preferences anymore. I get, "waiting for sound to respond"
[09:32] <SunlessHalo> gnome didn't even play the system bell :\
[09:32] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: right click on the sound button, go to preferences
[09:32] <jrib> Vegar: there used to be some gconf options
[09:32] <Armageddon> samekhmem: weird...
[09:32] <samekhmem> Armageddon, tell - me - about - it.
[09:33] <Vegar> jrib: they don't seem to work anymore since I upgraded to karmic
[09:33] <Shwack> DigitalKiwi and ActionParsnip1: I don't understand how you can not like the cube.  I dont spin it around with my mouse, I just enjoy the transition to other desktops if i click them.
[09:33] <Armageddon> samekhmem: don't worry I also have problems that I can't solve till now ;)
[09:33] <samekhmem> Armageddon, I've been at this for HOURS
[09:33] <samekhmem> Armageddon,  :D
[09:33] <Armageddon> I've been at this for months samekhmem
[09:33] <samekhmem> Armageddon, lol
[09:33] <Armageddon> samekhmem: no bluetooth, can't shutdown, and no cam
[09:33] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: i use ctrl+alt+ left or right and it switches instantly
[09:33] <samekhmem> Armageddon, omg
[09:33] <SunlessHalo> fok
[09:33] <drygr> Shwack, what cube do you speak of
[09:33] <Armageddon> samekhmem: but I love linux too much
[09:33] <SunlessHalo> it works now
[09:33] <illusion> hi i need to boot my ubuntu 9.10 iso file from grub i dont have cd drive or usbstick can you help me ?
[09:33] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: yes ?
[09:33] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: see !
[09:34] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1:  Ctrl + Alt + left and right is niiiiiice
[09:34] <samekhmem> Armageddon, I love it too. And I am a big supporter of Ubuntu. I'm South African, like Mark Shuttleworth...
[09:34] <SunlessHalo> well, not sure if it will work back on kde as well :\
[09:34] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: That's exactly the feel I like... a very quick transition.
[09:34] <Armageddon> illusion: grub is a bootloader, I don't think you can boot a non operating system with it
[09:34] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: What is lxde?
[09:34] <Armageddon> illusion: unless I'm wrong
[09:34] <samekhmem> Armageddon, can't help me?
[09:34] <illusion> Aragon: http://pastebin.ca/1649031
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: but you have an animation to run for it which takes time
[09:34] <Armageddon> samekhmem: sorry mate, I have no idea !
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> !info lxde | Shwack
[09:34] <DigitalKiwi> Shwack: I use awesome wm, vim, arch linux, lua, urxvt, irssi + screen, mpd + ncmpcpp, htop, and 90% of my time and work is spent in a terminal, that should pretty much sum up why I dislike compiz
[09:34] <illusion> Armageddon: http://pastebin.ca/1649031
[09:34] <samekhmem> reinstall fuck this shit
[09:35] <Armageddon> lol
[09:35] <Armageddon> I like that guy
[09:35] <illusion> but i got error from casper init error something ..
[09:35] <Armageddon> illusion: opening
[09:35] <DigitalKiwi> Armageddon: wrong, you can boot isos from grub
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: http://vavai.com/v2/wp-content/uploads/lxde.jpeg
[09:35] <Armageddon> DigitalKiwi: then I'm wrong, live and learn :) illusion you can
[09:36] <mrkwagga> Heya guys, what can I do if xrandr says "Can't Open Display" - since all the standard methods dont work. (dpkg-reconfigure, xorg.conf)
[09:36] <Armageddon> DigitalKiwi: if you have any idea how, can you help illusion ?
[09:36] <DigitalKiwi> ActionParsnip1: you do know lxde is just openbox with a few crappy apps (though there are one or two nice ones) right?
[09:36] <Shwack> DigitalKiwi - It's not that I wouldn't love to spend all my time in a terminal.  I dream about encryption algorithms at night... it's just that I've been using linux for exactly 4 days now and I'm soaking it all up with the GUI cuz there's just too much to try and not enough time to learn the commands :)
[09:36] <Coldhak> is there a way to revert the system back to default settings?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> DigitalKiwi: indeed
[09:36] <illusion> Armageddon: i have 2 hard drive i extract the iso image to second hard drive and configure grub to boot from vmzlinuz in 2 hard but i got casper error
[09:36] <DigitalKiwi> Armageddon: I've mever personally done it and the only person I know of to have done it (though I'm sure others have) is not online atm
[09:37] <JamesD1> I can't get 9.04 to upgrade from the 9.10 alternate iso.  I mount it and no upgrade dialog appears. :(
[09:37] <illusion> Armageddon: caper guive me this error : cant read /dev/sr0
[09:37] <SunlessHalo> Armageddon: you were right, it's a kde issue, but I can't fix it yet :(
[09:37] <Armageddon> JamesD1: add the CDRom into Software source, apt-get update and then use apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:38] <JamesD1> ok
[09:38] <SunlessHalo> gnome worked fine on defaults...
[09:38] <Armageddon> SunlessHalo: it might be the same problem with KDE, change the driver you are using on KDE into another one
[09:38] <Kartagis> do I need extra space while upgrading?
[09:38] <Armageddon> Kartagis: probably
[09:38] <billdozor> shoudl tell you how much will be downloaded
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> JamesD1: mount the CD then run: gksu "sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade"
[09:39] <Armageddon> illusion: this might help http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/925285.html
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> JamesD1: it won't autorun for you, you have to kick off the script
[09:39] <illusion> Armageddon: thnx i will try it
[09:39] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1:    !info lxde |    returns dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[09:39] <Shwack> woops
[09:39] <Armageddon> illusion: wait
[09:39] <tom05> only in english ?  how join a french canal ?
[09:39] <Shwack> Actionparsnip1: it returns  info lxde lxde | Shwack lxde | lxde |
[09:39] <DigitalKiwi> ActionParsnip1: if you know that then why do you promote it ;_; just promote openbox plus the few nice things lxde does right (lxapperance, using pcmanfm, -possibly- gpicview I can't remember) and various other light programs
[09:39] <illusion> Armageddon: ok
[09:39] <Armageddon> illusion: this might help also http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/booting-of-raw-iso-from-grublilo-though-preferably-grub-367901/
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> DigitalKiwi: as i am a small contributor to Lubuntu :D
[09:40] <DigitalKiwi> pfft
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> DigitalKiwi: don't forget lxpanel
[09:40] <Armageddon> I've never heard of Lubuntu
[09:40] <duncan_> what is a good ntp server?
[09:40] <DigitalKiwi> sucks
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> !lubuntu
[09:40] <JamesD1> ActionParsnip1: Thanks! :D
[09:40] <DigitalKiwi> I didn't forget it, it's not good ;D
[09:41] <ubnew> hi!
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> Armageddon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu   soon to be official release using LXDE
[09:41] <Shwack> I like it
[09:41] <Armageddon> well soon to be official doesn't mean it is known yet
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> Armageddon: who said it was known?
[09:41] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: It looks good - can you help me out with the !info command? i couldn't get it to work
[09:41] <nimrod0> is there a hardware compatibility list for ubuntu ?
[09:41] <Armageddon> ActionParsnip1: I've been using gnome and I like it so far ! tried everything and came back to Gnome
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> !hcl | nimrod0
[09:42] <Armageddon> nimrod0: like what ?
[09:42] <ubnew> I've updated my pc to ubutnu 9.10. Unfortunately, I ran into the madwifi problem. I've got an atheros AR5001 adapter and don't know how to get it run. Can you help me?
[09:42] <DigitalKiwi> great, another less than nice offshoot of debian added to the world, how nice
[09:43] <StrangeCharm> what's the command to start the ubuntu-desktop interface
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: you can use !info to get info on a package
[09:43] <And4713[LT]> cviorel, OH MY GOD HAHA, guess what, the mount point isnt empty
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> StrangeCharm: startx
[09:43] <Sonja> what version of ruby does Koala let you install?
[09:44] <Shwack> Actionparsnip: so  I could type  !info flashplugin_nonfree
[09:44] <Alvinware> Can i uncheck the 'AT SPI Registry Wrapper' in start-up manager?
[09:44] <bigmack83_> im using devede to convert avi files to burn onto a dvd for use in a standard dvd player. each avi is 170mb but when i add them devede only lets me put 4 epidoes in before it says a 4.7gb dvd is full. but once i burn the .sio with the 4 episodes the iso is only 1.5gb . how can i make it so i can put more episodes on thedvd?
[09:44] <Sonja> is the next ubuntu going to be called Lunatic Llama?
[09:44] <Armageddon> Sonja: 1.9
[09:44] <Armageddon> Sonja: and 1.8
[09:44] <Sonja> Armageddon awesome 1.9!
[09:44] <solsTiCe> hi. is it normal the white glowing ubuntu logo stays so long there when i try to install ? or my cd is wrong (=> Trash)
[09:44] <TheJosh> is the keyserer down at the moment? I'm trying to add a key for a PPA, and its timing out
[09:44] <grawity> TheJosh: It's been down for most of the last two months, IIRC.
[09:44] <Gnea> !10.04
[09:44] <Armageddon> and 4.2, Sonja
[09:44] <bigmack83_> i should be able to put 12 avi's on one disc
[09:45] <grawity> TheJosh: Submit the key to any SKS keyserver - pool.sks-keyserver.net - and hope they'll sync soon.
[09:45] <Sonja> Armageddon 4.2  of what?
[09:45] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: depending on the space
[09:45] <TheJosh> grawity, No I want to use a PPA
[09:45] <Sonja> thanks gnea
[09:45] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, depending on the space?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: not if each AVI is 1Tb in size
[09:45] <Armageddon> Sonja: an interpreter :/ no idea ! but it depends on ruby 1.8
[09:46] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: how big the avi are
[09:46] <bigmack83_> the avi's are only 170mb each, the dvd is a 4.7
[09:46] <Sonja> Armageddon ok cool! <3
[09:46] <grawity> TheJosh: keyserver.ubuntu.com is linked to pool.sks-keyservers.net; they have the same keys.
[09:46] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: should work
[09:46] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, 1Tb ? :/
[09:46] <grawity> TheJosh: If you want to retrieve a key, it'll work too.
[09:46] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: 1 TeraByte
[09:46] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, yea but after i put 4 into devede it says disc is 98% full and cant put anymore
[09:46] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: that's 1024GB
[09:47] <TheJosh> grawity, so why hasn't launchpad been updated? that's a bit dumb.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: indeed, if the videos are massive then you will fit most likely 0, therfe is no "should" about it, its all about data size
[09:47] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, i know what 1 tb is, i was being sarcastic as there is no way my avi file is 1 tb
[09:47] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: are you sure you chose 4.7GB dvd ?
[09:47] <bigmack83_> yea
[09:47] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: there are small DVDs
[09:47] <duncan_> i'm so glad i'm not running ubuntu on a 200mhz machine, added packages for openWRT on my router takes forever
[09:47] <bigmack83_> it shows the 4.7 dvd format is selected
[09:47] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, no the avi's are only 170mb
[09:47] <grawity> TheJosh: Dunno. Lazy sysadmins?
[09:47] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: try using GnomeBaker or Brasero
[09:48] <TheJosh> grawity, Thanks.
[09:48] <bigmack83_> brasero will burn avi's into a format for dvd player?
[09:48] <xs> hi. is there documentation for ubuntu for people who are very familiar with linux? i cannot find anything via google or on ubuntu.com.
[09:48] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: should do so
[09:48] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: what format does the DVD player read ?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: if each is 170Mb you can fit 19, I suggest you use Devede
[09:48] <TheJosh> Has anyone here installed the BFS+BFQ patches for the kernel (i.e. https://launchpad.net/~darxus/+archive/bfsbfq) ?? Had any problems?
[09:48] <bigmack83_> im using devede becuase it has to convert the avi's into mpeg for dvd compatibility
[09:49] <_PiLoT_> can anyone let me know how severly the postal strike will affect the shipping of the ubuntu cds
[09:49] <Salvad> Can someone plese tell me the version of Evince that comes with Ubuntu 9.04?
[09:49] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, i am using devede, thats whats only letting me put 4 on one disc. after i put 4 in the box it says 98% full
[09:49] <Armageddon> Salvad: 9.04 or 9.10 ?
[09:49] <xs> _PiLoT_: the variance is high on delays: i've had stuff next day and stuff delayed by 2 weeks.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: devede can fit more videos than that too but it will reduce quality
[09:49] <Salvad> The 9.04 one.
[09:49] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, mpeg4 i believe
[09:49] <_PiLoT_> why does it dsay 4 to ten weeks
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: click adjust size
[09:49] <courpse> How to make squirrelmail read from sql server?
[09:49] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: it is converting them before burning ?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: have a chapter for each video
[09:50] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: I try typing !info lxde l  and its coming up with a whole bunch of stuff a reallllly long list
[09:50] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: well of course it will take more space :/
[09:50] <Salvad> I upgraded to 9.10 and some parts of PDFs are ilegible.
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> Shwack: !info is an irc command
[09:50] <bruteforce> hey ppl. :) just installed karmic :D empathy doesn't support musictracker :D
[09:50] <TheJosh> Salvad: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:50] <Shwack> ActionParsnip1: lolllllll
[09:50] <bruteforce> can someone help? :S
[09:50] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, yea but thats what i dont get, i do set chapter per video, yes it converts them before burning
[09:50] <Shwack> !info lxde | Shwack
[09:50] <mikunos> hi guys I need to create a VPN connection PPTP. I have installed the OpenVPN and the Cisco VPN as described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[09:50] <darkfig> hi
[09:50] <om26er1> bruteforce: empathy lack many features that u can't imagine
[09:50] <Shwack> sigh
[09:50] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, i know it will take more space, but the finished dvd is only 1.5 gb
[09:51] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: well chapters and stuff put up more space, then convertion will take more space, of course it will be around 90%
[09:51] <bigmack83_> so i know i can put more data on the iso
[09:51] <mikunos> I have tried to create a new connection but the Apply button remain disabled
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: maybe it needs reinstalling, you could also try deleting ~/.devede
[09:51] <mikunos> why?!?!
[09:51] <bruteforce> om26er1: sad. so i install pidgin to get those features? back???
[09:51] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: I'm lost dude !
[09:51] <coz_> hey guys... many years with linux and I have not tested this...if I put in another video card  after installing ubuntu...will ubunt pick up on the new card or will I have to install?
[09:51] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, i have tried that
[09:51] <duncan_> what was the reason for adopting empathy before it had feature parity?
[09:51] <Shwack> ubottu thx
[09:51] <_PiLoT_> ha
[09:51] <TheJosh> ubottu, thank you
[09:51]  * Shwack .
[09:52] <Armageddon> did Shwack just thank a bot ?
[09:52] <_PiLoT_> yes he did
[09:52] <om26er1> bruteforce: me to
[09:52] <Armageddon> :/
[09:52] <Armageddon> hehe
[09:52] <_PiLoT_> yup
[09:52] <bruteforce> om26er1: sad, but thanks for your help bro :)
[09:52] <Shwack> Armageddon actually i thought I typed the command wrong and somebody did it for me lol
[09:52] <quiescens> bots have feelings too ):
[09:52] <TheJosh> Armageddon, he is very helpful, or is it she is very helpful
[09:52] <darkfig> I did the last xorg update ... I checked this thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240957) but apt-get don't find the package "xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10". I guess my sources.list is bad..
[09:52] <Armageddon> TheJosh: either way we all love ubottu
[09:52] <om26er1> bruteforce: empathy will improve in its next major release . it what they say
[09:52] <_PiLoT_> yeah i thinks the bot should have the thx command respod with your welcome
[09:53] <Armageddon> darkfig: try apt-cache search xserver-xort-core
[09:53] <Shwack> Armageddon this is my first time using irc so plz ignore my noob
[09:53] <TheJosh> Armageddon, I gotta go, gotta restart with a new kernel (BFS!)
[09:53] <grawity> _PiLoT_: why should it, "thx" is not even a word.
[09:53] <steakunderscore> Has anyone had problems with LVM and ubuntu 9.10?
[09:53] <_PiLoT_> because gravity
[09:53] <Armageddon> Shwack: no need dude, we are just having fun ;)
[09:53] <_PiLoT_> common courtisy is a must in this dy and age
[09:54] <darkfig> Armageddon, yes but this give me the last version
[09:54] <grawity> And because people on IRC don't know how to spell...
[09:54] <xs> is ubuntu only suitable for people unfamiliar with linux?
[09:54] <_PiLoT_> taht aswell
[09:54] <Shwack> Armageddon: hey btw can anybody here tell me if linux needs any special packages for firewalls / virus tools?
[09:54] <Armageddon> xs: no
[09:54] <_PiLoT_> lol
[09:54] <jrib> xs: nope, suitable for people familiar with linux as well...
[09:54] <Armageddon> xs: it is suitable to everyone from noobs to advanced users
[09:54] <duncan_> xs, negative, I switched from arch to ubuntu
[09:54] <mrwes> Shwack, no
[09:54] <Armageddon> duncan_: probably burned a couple of VGA's and a dozen of CPUs
[09:55] <_PiLoT_> so grawity, you think making the bot correct grammar would be a better way of doing stuff?
[09:55] <Armageddon> and melted the moterboard twice
[09:55]  * Shwack remembers windows + zone alarm + virus program and then nuts his pants
[09:55] <xs> duncan_: don't you find the documentation very annoying?
[09:55] <Armageddon> Shwack: and you should remember that the computer will stop working also
[09:55] <bigmack83_> Armageddon ActionParsnip1 ok. i have a 4.7 dvd and 170 mb avi files. i put them into devede and after 4 avi's it says 98% full for a 4.7 dvd. i have tried a chapter for each avi as well as 1 chapter for all avi's, and same result. even though it claims the 4.7 is full with these 4 170mb videos, after it converts them the final iso is only 1.5 gb. so i know it somehow *should* be able to but at least 12 videos per dvd. i know avi -> m
[09:55] <bigmack83_> peg4 will get larger but not That much that i can only put 4 per dvd.
[09:55] <Shwack> Armageddon blue screens of death
[09:55] <Armageddon> Shwack: what do you need with a firewall ?
[09:55] <mrwes> Shwack, Ubuntu comes with a firewall called ufw and the graphical interface is called Gufw. As for AV, there's really no need, unless you're sharing files to and from a Windows box
[09:56] <duncan_> xs, nah it's easy enough to filter through and I use manpages alot
[09:56] <Armageddon> Shwack: come on, the blue screen is a legacy
[09:56] <xs> duncan_: ubuntu document most of their stuff in manpages?
[09:56] <Coldhak> isn't it red since XP?
[09:56] <bman> anyone help with a php problem?
[09:56] <Shwack> Armageddon: I'm setting up a subdomain on one of my .nets to point to my home IP address so I can host a ventrilo server and a Waste again network
[09:56] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: it's converting them into DVD that's why it takes space
[09:56] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1, i tried to use adjust video and it went from 98% to 99% full
[09:56] <xs> duncan_: what wm do you use?
[09:56] <Armageddon> Shwack: you need a firewall ?
[09:56] <duncan_> xs, negative, ubuntu's documentation is in their wiki but everything upstream is in manpages, and gnome
[09:56] <Alvinware> Can i uncheck the 'AT SPI Registry Wrapper' in start-up manager?
[09:56] <mrwes> ActionParsnip1, o/
[09:57] <Armageddon> Shwack: try firestarter that's an easy one, and if you have windows computers you will need samba
[09:57] <bruteforce> bman: whats the problem?
[09:57] <mrwes> Armageddon, firestarter is outdated
[09:57] <bman> fpr this data $desc = "'he' - 'ho' - 'hum'";
[09:57] <bman>     if (strpos($desc, '\' - \'') !== false)
[09:57] <Armageddon> mrwes: what's new ?
[09:57] <bman> i expect that to pass
[09:57] <DarkCore> guys
[09:57] <bman> but its not
[09:57] <duncan_> I've been using Gufw, though firehol is very good if you want to handwrite your own firewall
[09:57] <xs> duncan_: also, coming from arch, how much crap does ubuntu install? e.g., *kit, hal? can you get rid of it easily?
[09:57] <mrwes> gufw / ufw -- Uncompitcated Firewall
[09:57] <Shwack> Armageddon: You're forgetting I showed up to linux knowing it had a cube
[09:57] <DarkCore> oh wait
[09:57] <dukz> my ubuntu one doesn't work. it doesn't ask me for my username or password. :(
[09:58] <PC_Nerd101> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from a CD, but there is no /cdrom/cdromupgrade file to run as the autoprompt doesnt popup,... any suggestions?
[09:58] <Shwack> Armageddon - I didnt know I was never going to log on to windows again
[09:58] <pshr_> hey, how to delete the shortcuts that come u in places menu in the tool bar above
[09:58] <jrib> xs: start with a minimal ubuntu install and add only what you want
[09:58] <mrwes> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gufw-simple-gui-for-ufw-uncomplicated-firewall.html
[09:58] <Armageddon> Shwack: once you go linux you never go back, tell me about it:P
[09:58] <Armageddon> mrwes: ?
[09:58] <bigmack83_> Armageddon, so while converting if each video would essentially need 1.15 gb or so for conversion, once that data is converted the extra is discarded. so how can i set it up so i can put 12 per disc? i will try brasero though
[09:58] <raevol> is keyserver.ubuntu.com down?
[09:58] <pshr_> hey, how to delete the shortcuts that come up in places menu in the tool bar above
[09:58] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: probably
[09:58] <blizzkid> Lo all. I have jaunty running on a mac mini PPC, I attached a USB drive, it shows up in dmesg as sda. parted shows 1 partition. Fdisk -l doesn't show the disk. fdisk /dev/sda says no partition map. Is it a common problem on PPC?
[09:58] <erUSUL> PC_Nerd101: is the alternate cd ?
[09:58] <Armageddon> raevol: test it
[09:58] <xs> jrib: so minimal lacks consolekit, devicekit, policykit, hal, avahi, etc?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: gksudo "sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade"
[09:58] <mrwes> firestarter is just the frontend to iptables
[09:59] <steakunderscore> raevol: It was up earlier today
[09:59] <jrib> xs: it should, yes
[09:59] <raevol> seems to have just come back up
[09:59] <erUSUL> raevol: yes; use pgpkeys.mit.edu
[09:59] <Armageddon> mrwes: fine, but I didnt understand what you said instead of firestarter
[09:59] <jrib> !minimal | xs
[09:59] <Shwack> Armageddon - lol.   i've been up till 4am every night having so much fun. I just took a midterm yesterday morning and couldn't study at all cuz I found integrated PGP and keyrings
[09:59] <duncan_> xs, I use most of what ubuntu installs by default, I got annoyed with spending hours setting things up in arch, as the point of distributions is to get a good base so people don't have to spend hours or days tweaking their system to a usable level
[09:59] <x3_iVaN> hello
[09:59] <PC_Nerd101> a find on the mounted CD doesnt find cdromupgrade... I'm not entirely certain if its the alternate CD...   a friend burnt it for me to to save the 1GB odd upgrade size.
[09:59] <TheJosh> so ubuntu + BFS kernel doesn't work very well :(
[09:59] <x3_iVaN> I need to active the classic desktop on netbook remix in 9.10. anyone knows how I do fix it?
[09:59] <mrwes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall
[09:59] <erUSUL> PC_Nerd101: becouse the desktop cd can not be used to upgrade
[09:59] <duncan_> xs, but anything can be removed easily enough if you don't want it
[09:59] <TheJosh> apparently BFS doesnt like Xord
[10:00] <Armageddon> Shwack: haha tell me about it, Linux is the best OS ever made to humans, and I would laugh in the face of anyone that says otherwise
[10:00] <_PiLoT_> actually that reminds me
[10:00] <PC_Nerd101> * ahh - that would explain it.
[10:00] <xs> duncan_: did you switch your wm? that's actually a concern for me. it seems a lot of the ubuntu "policy" stuff is tied into gnome and won't carry over to other wms.
[10:00] <PC_Nerd101> ok, then I guess aGB upgrade it is... thanks :)
[10:00] <duncan_> xs, just autoremove through apt-get or remove in synaptic
[10:00] <xs> duncan_: ya, via debfoster.
[10:00] <Shwack> Armageddon: I  agree
[10:00] <ipatel> hi guys.... since the upgrade to 9.10 yesterday i noticed that open office crashes each time i try to open a file created using previous versions
[10:00] <CammyA1600> blizzkid, how well does Jaunty run compared to MorphOS on the MacMini?
[10:01] <xs> jrib: thanks. where can i find out about its precise contents? or is it a suck it and see kind of thing? ;-)
[10:01] <sixfish> anyone know how the iwlagn with 9.04 ? and aircrack-ng ?
[10:01] <Shwack> Armageddon: I have WINE and open office and Gimp... the only thing i dont have is a PTT for ventrilo
[10:01] <duncan_> xs, autoremove will remove all dependencies that aren't needed and synaptic will list orphaned packages
[10:01] <Armageddon> Shwack: I've been using Ubuntu for 9months now, and a lot of stuff do not work properly, compatibility issues with my hardware but I can't let it go, it's addictive !
[10:01] <_PiLoT_> ubuntu cliam they work with intel developing the UNR, to make the most of the atom processors. i was wondering whether the desktop additions also have the informatio included so that the desktop edition can be used on a netbook with no complaints
[10:01] <blizzkid> CammyA1600: never tried MorphOS, so don't really know. Jaunty works fine apart from some multimedia packages, but I use it as as dns/dhcp/backup server
[10:01] <Shwack> Armageddon: SAme dude! My speakers emit a high pitched buzzing sound in 5.1 surround mode unless i turn my subwoofer up past 10% - it gives my comp personality... I love it
[10:01] <duncan_> xs, I used gnome and kde in arch and gnome in ubuntu, so i'm not sure how the policies tie into kde or xfce
[10:02] <jrib> xs: I would just try it.  I've never installed it, but my guess is it just installs the ubuntu-minimal package and all of its dependencies so you can check packages.ubuntu.com
[10:02] <xs> duncan_: debfoster keeps track of preferences on orphaned packages and finds more than deborphan does (for example).
[10:02] <xs> jrib: cheers! :)
[10:02] <CammyA1600> Shame about the mm packages
[10:02] <_PiLoT_> im only asking because the UNR lloks a bit too much like a mobile phone UI
[10:03] <duncan_> xs, the minimal install cd should be similar to a slackware install (which is what arch is based on )
[10:03] <blizzkid> CammyA1600: and now this fdisk issue, so I guess Ubuntu on the PPC is not that great, I might switch to Debian
[10:03] <_PiLoT_> also theres the isue of a 1024x600 resolution
[10:03] <DigitalKiwi> duncan_: WHAT
[10:03] <blizzkid> CammyA1600: or even some BSD
[10:03] <DigitalKiwi> arch is NOT based on slackware
[10:03] <CammyA1600> Is it a G4 or G3?
[10:03] <_PiLoT_> im pretty sure the desktop edition wont like it
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: you NEED the alternate CD or its not going to upgrade your system
[10:03] <Shwack> Anybody use Waste?
[10:03] <LexR> arch is independent disto
[10:04] <ivanatwork> duncan_, on arch you have also to configure ... it's not Slackware ;)
[10:04] <DigitalKiwi> it was originally LFS with pacman homebrewed and it is inspired by crux
[10:04] <_PiLoT_> blizzkid what type of ppc u got?
[10:04] <PC_Nerd101> ActionParsnip1: Thanks - I've only got the standard desktop install CD ( like live boot etc).. so I'll just download...   cant wait :) - thanks for your help !:)
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: np man,
[10:04] <blizzkid> _PiLoT_: it's the original Mac mini
[10:04] <DigitalKiwi> with bsd like init scripts and in addition a ports like build system, but is not based on anything
[10:04] <_PiLoT_> ah ok i thought you meant pocket pc
[10:04] <CammyA1600> Damn, G3 I guess
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: the guide is a little off , you just need to run the command from the mount point of the cd
[10:04] <Armageddon> is there a way to write a bash file to automount all hard drives on startup ?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: the guide assumes /cdrom when it should be /media/cdrom0
[10:05] <xs> Armageddon: edit /etc/fstab no?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> Armageddon: sudo mount -a
[10:05] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, I stand corrected, I just remembered something in the Arch wiki about it
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> Armageddon: mount -s will attempt to mount all drives in /etc/fstab
[10:05] <xs> ActionParsnip1: that gets executed at boot time anyhow.
[10:05] <PC_Nerd101> ActionParsnip1: ok...btw - on upgrading, it tells me that packages such as g++-4.3 are no longer supported and will be recomented to remove after upgrade.. does that mean that newer versions of these are available in 9.10 - or that they are no longer "officially" supported?
[10:05] <Armageddon> xs, ActionParsnip1 but it needs a password !
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> well, partitions
[10:05] <_PiLoT_> is there a limit to how many hdds the os will handle?
[10:05] <xs> Armageddon: what needs a password?
[10:05] <DigitalKiwi> duncan_: it's cool, you'll know next time it comes up now at least :)
[10:06] <Armageddon> xs: the sudo
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> Armageddon: not if you put it in /etc/rc.local !
[10:06] <FiReSTaRT> i'm getting ready to install karmic on a machine that already has grub2 installed and properly configured... will karmic get autodetected by grub or will the karmic install cd try to configure it?
[10:06] <weltall> hi does anyone know how to setup policies? for example to not make the frequency scaler ask every time to put the password to change frequency? there was a tool for gnome on the last version but it doesn't work on karmic anymore (even installing it shows an empty list for permissions)
[10:06] <grawity> Armageddon: 'sudo'? It wants _your_ _own_ password.
[10:06] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip1 Armageddon for standard dvd quality, what should be the video bit rate in kbps? devede is defaulted to 5001 kbps
[10:06] <xs> Armageddon: ? if you add the disk to /etc/fstab then it will get automounted at boot.
[10:06] <Armageddon> can not be done on start up automatically !
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> PC_Nerd101: not sure
[10:06] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, but as far as minimalism goes they are quite similar, just one is rolling release the other is time-based
[10:06] <Armageddon> bigmack83_: no idea, google it, but you can choose it
[10:06] <Armageddon> xs: oh
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> bigmack83_: i just use whatever devede recommends, works ok
[10:06] <Armageddon> xs: thanks
[10:06] <MrEgg964> Hi. Is is possible to dist-upgrade a remote computer, through ssh ?
[10:06] <xs> duncan_: does ubuntu have a rolling release like debian?
[10:06] <ivanatwork> duncan_, I agree ;)
[10:06] <PC_Nerd101> ActionParsnip1: ok
[10:07] <xs> Armageddon: there is probably a nice ui for doing this in ubuntu somewhere
[10:07] <bigmack83_> ok
[10:07] <joaopinto> MrEgg964, yes, with do-release-upgrade
[10:07] <joaopinto> MrEgg964, but, its still risky
[10:07] <Amnesia> hi does anyone know how to connect to a wireless AP with iwconfig?
[10:07] <Armageddon> Shwack: still tere ?
[10:07] <my007ms> since i update my ubuntu box virtual box stop working and i don't see boxdrv loaded in lsmod
[10:07] <Shwack> Armageddon Yep
[10:07] <my007ms> any idea ?
[10:07] <Armageddon> Shwack: read your query
[10:07] <duncan_> xs, closes you will get to rolling release with ubuntu is upgrading to the alphas as they are available, there is no unstable for ubuntu like debian
[10:07] <MrEgg964> joaopinto: do-release-upgrade is not just for Server Edition?
[10:07] <_PiLoT_> i have 5 internal hdds. will this be an issue
[10:07] <joaopinto> MrEgg964, no, it's for any edition,is the text counterpart for update-manager
[10:08] <xs> duncan_: but there is no testing either? debian testing is vetted more than unstable.
[10:08] <Armageddon> _PiLoT_: no
[10:08] <MrEgg964> joaopinto: thanks
[10:08] <Mowind> man all the karmic wall papers suck. :\
[10:08] <TheJosh> Well another reboot to try and get BFS working :)
[10:08] <Shwack> Armageddon where is that at?
[10:08] <duncan_> xs, correct, for ubuntu you have the current releases and the developmental release for the next version
[10:08] <Armageddon> Mowind: I got one great one if you like it, you may have it
[10:08] <Amnesia> iwconfig eth1 mode managed channel 6 key open<PHONE_NUMBER>793132333435 essid linksys
[10:08] <Armageddon> Shwack: try to see all open windows
[10:08] <Amnesia> should be fine right?
[10:08] <duncan_> xs, for example once the 10.04 alpha is released that is similar to debian testing
[10:08] <xs> duncan_: okay. thanks. ubuntu -1.
[10:08] <Mowind> Armageddon: Sure.
[10:08] <DigitalKiwi> duncan_: yes they are similiar, frugalware was (and i think still is) based on slackware and uses a fork of pacman, fyi
[10:09] <Armageddon> Mowind: lemme find it for you
[10:09] <Snares> Does anyone here have a Creative X-Fi? If so, does your mic work?
[10:10] <Armageddon> Mowind: what I did is I made both taskbars transparent with the background, looks really good
[10:10] <ivanatwork> xs, and there is also Gwenview, if you want only free software (I feel a bit lost ...)
[10:10] <ivanatwork> xs, forget about it, wrong nick & window ;)
[10:10] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, I liked pacman for it's simplicity
[10:10] <evenicoulddoit> Hi all. I've recently updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and I've found that my flash player is no longer responsive to clicks
[10:10] <xs> ivanatwork: no worries :)
[10:10] <joaopinto> duncan_, DigitalKiwi let's keep the change for support ;)
[10:10] <coz_> duncan_,  have you tried  njam then?
[10:10] <Snares> Does anyone here have a Creative X-Fi? If so, does your mic work?
[10:10] <DigitalKiwi> we are supporting
[10:10] <ivanatwork> xs, ty
[10:11] <nimrod0> thanks Armageddon , just wanted a list of supported hardware
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> is this an official wiki or some 3rd party page: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic
[10:11] <nimrod0> as there are always trouble with ubuntu especially on laptops with drivers
[10:11] <jrib> ActionParsnip1: 3rd party
[10:11] <DigitalKiwi> xs: you really want a rolling release that isn't debian or you were just hoping that ubuntu had one?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> jrib: thanks, thought so
[10:11] <Armageddon> Mowind: pvt me with your email please
[10:11] <duncan_> coz_, the package manager not the game :P
[10:11] <Armageddon> nimrod0: your welcome
[10:11] <ivanatwork> what is Gnusense? I mean, is it an Ubuntu with only free software?
[10:11] <h0ss> nimrod0: yar, I still cant get my wifi to work on 8.10 on AAO.
[10:12] <joaopinto> ivanatwork, yes
[10:12] <nimrod0> h0ss, have you considered upgrading ?
[10:12] <coz_> duncan_,  oh lol
[10:12] <DigitalKiwi> xs: http://oswatershed.org/
[10:12] <h0ss> nimrod0: very much so.  my bandwidth doesnt permit it at this time.
[10:12] <ivanatwork> joaopinto, so it's currently a 9.10 ? I'm a bit lost
[10:12] <coz_> duncan_,  i should have known :)
[10:12] <nimrod0> h0ss, what type of hardware for wifi
[10:12] <duncan_> coz_, :)
[10:12] <joaopinto> ivanatwork, I don't use gnewsense
[10:12] <DigitalKiwi> ubuntu is usually way far down but they had a release...so it's up temporarily
[10:13] <nimrod0> h0ss, request some free cd
[10:13] <ivanatwork> joaopinto, nor do I ;) just curious about new distros
[10:13] <nimrod0> there was a way to do that
[10:13] <h0ss> nimrod0: the wifi nic is an atheros AR5007EG
[10:13] <ivanatwork> btw, 9.10 has an horible brown by default ... lol I know ...
[10:13] <amgarching> Hi, what the the most "official" deb repository of  OOo 3.1 for Hardy LTS?
[10:13] <csaba> I've written a lang file for gedit, how to install it?
[10:14] <nimrod0> h0ss, atheros should be fully supported
[10:14] <h0ss> nimrod0: I will just wait until march to get a steady cat5 connection.
[10:14] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, I don't put much stock in having the newest version of everything :)
[10:14] <DigitalKiwi> ivanatwork: don't they all have horrible brown/orange by default?
[10:14] <h0ss> nimrod0: and I am stuck with windblows :(
[10:14] <xs> DigitalKiwi: i was hoping ubuntu had one. thanks for the link :)
[10:14] <evenicoulddoit> Anyone get my issue?
[10:14] <ivanatwork> DigitalKiwi, 8.10 wasn't that bad
[10:14] <h0ss> nimrod0: not with 8.10 it isnt supported.
[10:14] <duncan_> ivanatwork, I prefer 9.10s horrible brown to 9.04s "{
[10:14] <xs> DigitalKiwi: !! i was looking for this link for ages! thank you so much :)
[10:14] <nimrod0> h0ss, that sucks really , these hardware manufacturers need a kick
[10:14] <csaba> I've written a lang file for gedit, how to install it?
[10:14] <DigitalKiwi> duncan_: that's not the only thing the distros that have up to date software have going for them over others that don't
[10:14] <xs> DigitalKiwi: i came across it months ago then forgot it!
[10:15] <DigitalKiwi> xs: yw
[10:15] <Foggy> does anybody know of a mail macro to sniff an incoming email parse a filename out of the list and attach it and respond
[10:15] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, oh I know, I'm just commenting on the link :)
[10:15] <LexR> people, I dislike brow/orange theme as well, but there are other themes to choose from now...
[10:15] <h0ss> niimrod0: tell me about it.
[10:15] <DigitalKiwi> for example, how long would it take to update a 12 month old install of ubuntu to the newest release?
[10:15] <MasterJimmy> I'm having a problem with my upgrade to karmic. i keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/d52770cfa
[10:15] <Shwack> Armageddon you in here?
[10:15] <LexR> If you want to customize the looks, goto gnome-look or kde-look
[10:15] <DigitalKiwi> and what are the chances of it surviving ;D
[10:16] <AmokPaule2> DigitalKiwi should work
[10:16] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, I save myself the trouble and backup my home directory to my NFS and clean install
[10:16] <nimrod0> h0ss, please email the manufacturers and ask them to release drivers, the more of us that do that the better chance we have of making these people release drivers, because otherwise they know they'll lose money
[10:16] <DigitalKiwi> reinstalling is for windows users =D
[10:16] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, and my laptop survived 9.04 to 9.10 fine, actually worked better after
[10:16] <DigitalKiwi> that's only 6 months
[10:16] <Snares> Does anyone here have a Creative X-Fi? If so, does your mic work?
[10:17] <AmokPaule2> my server hoster only gives very old releases per efault aswell i have to go over 4 releases
[10:17] <DigitalKiwi> if I understand right you can't do a years update in one go?
[10:17] <nimrod0> h0ss, we need to put the pressure on these guys, after all we pay for the hardware
[10:17] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, yeah, you are supposed to take it in 6 month gaps
[10:17] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, or 2 year gaps (LTS to LTS)
[10:17] <AmokPaule2> No go step by step
[10:17] <h0ss> nimrod0: from what I understand later releases of Ubuntu work fine with this hardware.
[10:17] <h0ss> nimrod0: also there are some packages that might makeit work
[10:17] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, once 10.04 comes out i'll probably stick with it updating the few packages I need newer version of until 12.04
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> h0ss: easier is to buy hardware from manufacturers whom support Linux
[10:17] <MasterJimmy> anyone? http://pastebin.com/d52770cfa
[10:17] <nimrod0> even if they do still put the pressure on the manufaccturers
[10:17] <joaopinto> !sound | Snares
[10:18] <ravic> hello everyone
[10:18] <ravic> I am having amd64 machine and instlled 64 bit os
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> nimrod0: only buy hardware from manufacturers whom support Linux, vote with your wallet
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> !detail | ravic
[10:18]  * DigitalKiwi giggles at his <30 minute update of whole system about 12 months old (it had been off twice in that time) not on ubuntu :)
[10:18] <Snares> joaopinto: Thank you this might actually help :)
[10:18] <ravic> jus wondering if any of u can gimme way to install 32 bit package
[10:18] <MasterJimmy> ravic, only the operating system is 64bit
[10:18] <sandhya> I'm trying to upgrade to karmic using the alternate iso and keep running into authentication issues with existing packages - I've disabled all third party repos.
[10:18] <Snares> DigitalKiwi: Only girls giggle.
[10:18] <kalauz1> hi all anyone know if is possible clone a ext3 partition to another with different size with dd, thx
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> ravic: you can install ia32-libs    and use 32bit packages
[10:19] <DigitalKiwi> maybe I'm a girl
[10:19] <Randy_> alsa is buggy
[10:19] <duncan_> DigitalKiwi, Arch?
[10:19] <dto> hello ubuntu friends. clicking "burn playlist to cd" in rhythmbox does nothing. then when i try to drag the corresponding files into Brasero (as a workaround) it says Ogg is not suitable for writing to cd, even though it works for MP3s
[10:19] <DigitalKiwi> duncan_: ofc
[10:19] <joaopinto> Snadder, someone yesterday was reporting a non working mic, it fixed it by using the latest alsa drivers, compiled from source I guess
[10:19] <joaopinto> ops, was for Snares
[10:19] <Snares> DigitalKiwi: "DigitalKiwi giggles at his <30 minute" transvestite???!
[10:19] <Randy_> ...and by alsa being buggy, I don't mean just on ubuntu
[10:19] <nimrod0> ActionParsnip1, very well said . I'm not making the same mistake again that is for sure
[10:19] <sandhya> anybody encounter the same issue?
[10:19] <DigitalKiwi> Snares: ;D
[10:19] <saleh> Hi
[10:19] <Snares> joaopinto: Ok thanks, awesome :D
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> nimrod0: shop smart, shop s-mart
[10:20] <C-S-B> So how is karmic for everyone?
[10:20] <saleh> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10
[10:20] <saleh> and I can't boot ubuntu
[10:20] <Amnesia> ActionParsnip1: ever worked with iwconfig?
[10:20] <evenicoulddoit> Hi guys, I'm having some real issues with flash after updating to 9.10
[10:20] <ravic> i already installed it
[10:20] <sandhya> C-S-B: can't upgrade :(
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> C-S-B: been flawless since alpha2
[10:20] <ravic> but still 32 bit app's fails
[10:20] <LexR> karma is serving me good...
[10:20] <MasterJimmy> is anyone able to tell me what the error is i'm getting when i try to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10? http://pastebin.com/d52770cfa
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> Amnesia: never, i always use the interfaces file
[10:20] <Amnesia> hm okay
[10:20] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip1, My acer aspire one zg5 isnt always picking up that ive removed the power cable
[10:20] <Amnesia> nvm then:p
[10:21] <Amnesia> sorry for bothering you;)
[10:21] <saleh> First it was a problem with nVidia
[10:21] <padi999> hi
[10:21] <Shikaku> hello
[10:21] <saleh> but I purged the driver
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> ravic: you need to use force to install it as the system expects 64bit packages
[10:21] <CptnAwesome> whats the name of the deb installer package?
[10:21] <sandhya> sigh
[10:21] <saleh> and I could boot until before login window
[10:21] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip1, I should specfiy, gnome-power-manager, proc settings are correct
[10:21] <saleh> then nothing happens
[10:21] <saleh> just a background
[10:21] <padi999> in 9.10 I seem to have lost the firefox flash plugin (again), how do I have to proceed? (I tried installing flashplayer-nonfree) but no change in ff
[10:21] <saleh> anyone knows how to fix this?
[10:22] <ravic> i am try to have calendar addon to thunderbird
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> C-S-B: nice
[10:22] <ravic> it doesnt :(
[10:22]  * sandhya has yet to complete a Linux install or upgrade without resorting to IRC for help :(
[10:22] <MasterJimmy> can someone PLEASE tell me what this error is and how to fix it? I'm trying to upgrade to 9.10 :( http://pastebin.com/d52770cfa
[10:22] <sandhya> and they wonder why it's not catching on :S
[10:22] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip1, any ideas?
[10:22] <duncan_> sandhya, what issues are you having?
[10:23] <[JackD]> the connect button bug on wpa/psk is very annoying :)
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> MasterJimmy: looks like a bug to me, have you tried a reboot then run: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:23] <sandhya> duncan_: using the alternate iso to upgrade to karmic and run into authentication issues with existing packages.. I've disabled all third party repositories
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> C-S-B: sorry dude
[10:23] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip1, :(
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> C-S-B: i can't tell you what i don't know
[10:24] <Yos> If I upgrade to 9.10, will it change my network configuration ?
[10:24] <duncan_> sandhya, why are you using the alternate iso as upposed to running the update through the update manager?
[10:24] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip1, I usually help in here so it's a bugger when I cant help myself!
[10:24] <LexR> is smplayer made for kde or gnome? or indemendent?
[10:24] <MasterJimmy> ActionParsnip1, i can try to reboot. brb
[10:24] <Wikidude> How long does Karmic take to boot ( time taken from leaving grub - login screen)
[10:24] <duncan_> sandhya, just curious as the update manager worked fine on my end
[10:24] <yasin> hi. ubuntu 9.10 installing but frequency out of range bug. help!!. monitor philips 107e
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> C-S-B: maybe someone else can pitch in
[10:24] <sandhya> duncan_: I've also got to upgrade the installations on a couple of relatives of mine and wanted to save the bandwidth.
[10:24] <Rabbitbunny> yasin: Hand edit xorg.conf
[10:24] <ivanatwork> yasin, try to use "vesa"
[10:25] <Name141> Is Wubi still about 100% accurate on how the OS will be when installed for real on it's own partitions ?
[10:25] <Yos> If I upgrade to Karmic will it change my network configuration ?
[10:25] <slawek> Is here anybody who can halp me with wireless internet on Ubuntu 9.04?
[10:25] <web5|org|ua> after clean install 9.10 black background and can't change to other !
[10:25] <Shikaku> i don't see why not.  except maybe the load times
[10:25] <sandhya> Yos: I don't think so.
[10:25] <duncan_> sandhya, ah, hmm, have you tried using the standard iso, inserting it into the cd drive should pop up the option to update via synaptic
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> slawek: shouldnt do, it will only upgrade the apps
[10:25] <Name141> Shikaku: For Wubi ?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> slawek: sorry, wrong target
[10:26] <web5|org|ua> slawe: use the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> yos: shouldnt do, it will only upgrade the apps
[10:26] <ivanatwork> Yos, it should be an upgrade but if I were you I would back up my conf files ;)
[10:26] <Shikaku> Name141: I don't see why not, it's installed to a file that's mounted for Ubuntu.
[10:26] <sandhya> duncan_: nope, but I shouldn't have to, should I? It effectively runs the same thing except using the alternate CD as the source
[10:26] <Name141> Shikaku: OK, I will try it out before I decide to go full install then
[10:26] <novice> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10 working in 9.04
[10:26] <Shikaku> defrag if you want faster load times
[10:26] <duncan_> sandhya, different installers, I'm just suggesting as i've never tried to upgrade via the alternative
[10:27] <Shikaku> and don't use NTFS file compression
[10:27] <csaba> I wrote a lang file for gedit, how to install it?
[10:27] <blueglasses> what do you think about ksplice?
[10:27] <Iormangund> heya, was wondering wether anyone had an Acer AspireOne and if they had tried UNR 9.10 and UMR 9,10 and which was better compatbility?
[10:27] <yasin> how edit xorg.conf in livecd
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> yasin: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:28] <sandhya> duncan_: ah, thanks.. but I'd like to get it right with this.. one of the pcs I need to upgrade has a very intermittent net connection
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> yasin: same as an installed system
[10:28] <yasin> okey.
[10:28] <ivanatwork> yasin, then log off
[10:28] <yasin> monitor black screen
[10:28] <sandhya> ok, I'm now getting errors during a jaunty apt-get update
[10:28] <sandhya> W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[10:28] <sandhya> etc.
[10:29] <zilt0id> hey guys is keyserver.ubuntu.com down?
[10:29] <zilt0id> its not responding very well
[10:29] <h1d> is wiki.ubuntu.com down?
[10:29] <Shikaku> http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <warfare> hi all.
[10:29] <web5|org|ua> problem with background, can't change !
[10:29] <Shikaku> h1d: no
[10:29] <h1d> nvm, it was totally slow, but just on the topic, why is it hosted as https?
[10:29] <duncan_> sandhya, aye the standard iso will do an upgrade off the cd as well just through synaptic (sorry if I didn't make that clear) as opposed to going through the non-x installer (forget what it is called)
[10:30] <h1d> never mind*
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> zilt0id: use pgp.mit.edu  instead
[10:30] <makf> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10 working in 9.04
[10:30] <zilt0id> cheers for that
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> sandhya: i get a 404 for that file too
[10:30] <slawek> My sis have T-mobile "web`n`walk Stick" She had Vista, but I installed her The Ubuntu 9.04, but web`n`walk manager which runs from this Stick doesn`t run on Ubuntu.
[10:30] <Shikaku> try another server?
[10:30] <grawity> ActionParsnip1: pgp.mit.edu? I thought it's not synced.
[10:30] <duncan_> sandhya, alternate install is simply for automated installations, computers with too little ram, and advanced configurations
[10:30] <warfare> Where do I ask for enhancements to NetworkManager? I want to setup a wifi-Adhoc network without dnsmasq.
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> grawity: works here
[10:31] <ivanatwork> slawek, you have to search for the drivers
[10:31] <Squeak> Are there any Kubuntu users on at the moment?
[10:31] <ivanatwork> Squeak, tried it for a short time
[10:31] <warfare> slawek: the web'n
[10:32] <duncan_> Squeak, #kubuntu is guaranteed to have some :)
[10:32]  * raid0 goodmorning all
[10:32] <sandhya> duncan_: oh, I thought that the live cd did not support offline upgrades
[10:32] <mkulke> the ubuntu apt keyserver is timing out on me, does this happen to anyone else?
[10:32] <warfare> slawek: the web'n'walk stick should be a huawei e220. This would work with network manager out of the box.
[10:32] <Iormangund> anyone know which would be better for an aspire one? ubuntu netbook remix or ubuntu moblin remix?
[10:32] <ivanatwork> (!) ah
[10:32] <ewer> warfare, you can try zero config
[10:32] <sandhya> thanks - if things don't work later today, I'll give it a shot :)
[10:32] <blizzkid> mkulke: same here since yesterday
[10:32] <duncan_> sandhya, yep the livecd will act as a repository for the upgrade
[10:32] <warfare> ewer: It works, when I shut down NM and configure this by hand.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> mkulke: i've been using pgp.mit.edu  instead
[10:33] <warfare> ewer: I just want to use NM and click it ;)
[10:33] <SIRprise> if i "close" emphaty it seems to run anyway, but there is no icon in system tray. i must "restart" it over the starter
[10:33] <slawek> MODEL: GI0225
[10:34] <ewer> warfare, I wouldnt use a wireless network without dns configuration, you should think about using bluetooth instead
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: have you tried renaming `/.empathy
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> ~/.empathy
[10:34] <SIRprise> ActionParsnip1: no. what exactly should i rename?
[10:34] <magr> somebody who can help me with the freenx server?? i cant connect to it with the nx client from nomachine...=/
[10:35] <grawity> SIRprise: ~/.empathy
[10:35] <dj_> hey guys i want to run rar as sudo so i can split a file in volume, when i rightclick on the file ad to archive i can not do there i dont have root privilige, how to run rar with root priviliges
[10:35] <Squeak> duncan_: yeah, you have a good point :)
[10:35] <grawity> SIRprise: To, for example, "empathy.old"
[10:35] <dj_> i do sudo rar but it shows only command line
[10:35] <SIRprise> grawity: in console to start?
[10:35] <jrib> dj_: you don't need sudo to do that
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: ~/.empathy   give it a different name then relaunch the app, if it works then the profile for the app is bad
[10:36] <dj_> jrib: i right  clik on the file then how to split the movie
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: if it works with the stok profile you can either keep the empty profile and rebuild or rename the old profile back and troubleshoot
[10:36] <SandGorgon> hey guys.. i'm changing my icon preferences to "compact view", and my folder icons change layout accordingly - however my Desktop icons remain the same. how do I get my Folder icons to be laid out in Compact View as well ?
[10:36] <SIRprise> ActionParsnip1: i just created the profiles a few minutes ago
[10:36] <ewer> dj_, try gksudo instead
[10:36] <jrib> dj_: I mean, if you can do it with sudo, then you can do it without sudo, but I don't know how you actually do it using rar.  Alternatively, consider using the "split" command
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: worth a try
[10:37] <dj_> ewer it shows command line
[10:37] <SIRprise> ActionParsnip1: ok,thx
[10:37] <ewer> dj, because you are using command line
[10:37] <makf> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10, was working in 9.04. Trued to copy 5-udev-default and 60-persistent-input from 9.04 to /etc/udev/rules.d/, that didn't help. Touchpad, embedded in the keyboard, works, any ideas to debug?
[10:37] <dj_> i have a large file i want to split it to lower volume when i right click add archive then i see options to add volume but i need root password
[10:38] <jrib> dj_: what file? Where in the filesystem are you doing this?
[10:38] <archy008> did anyone upgrade through the torrent image?
[10:38] <dj_> jrib: on my desktop and i am admin
[10:38] <jrib> dj_: what are the permissions of the file?
[10:38] <rewati> hi i have ubuntu 9.10 installed and i cant find pydev in synaptic
[10:38] <ewer> dj_ dont you have root password on your own system?
[10:38] <iceroot> !anyone | archy008
[10:39] <SandGorgon> hey guys.. i'm changing my icon preferences to "compact view", and my folder icons change layout accordingly - however my Desktop icons remain the same. how do I get my Folder icons to be laid out in Compact View as well ?
[10:39] <rewati> hi i have ubuntu 9.10 installed and i cant find pydev in synaptic and i need python in eclipse
[10:39] <dj_> ewer: yes i have root password but how to start rar with root priviliges
[10:39] <Iormangund> anyone know which would be better for an aspire one? ubuntu netbook remix or ubuntu moblin remix?
[10:39] <ewer> dj_ are you talking about RAR or File Roller?
[10:40] <dj_> ewer: RAR
[10:40] <archy008> What is the best / safest way to upgrade? is the torrent upgrade ok or the best would be to do the network upgrade?
[10:40] <ewer> dj_ RAR is a command line utility
[10:40] <SIRprise> ActionParsnip1: i don't find that path (i'm noob) but i try it with reinstall
[10:40] <evenicoulddoit> Hello. Could someone help me with my flash player. Since I've upgraded it doesn't seem to function properly
[10:41] <ewer> dj, type man RAR
[10:41] <dj_> ewer: but when i rigth click on the file i see add archive
[10:41] <solsTiCe> archy008: it's the same. depends on your need. you need the alternate iso to upgrade
[10:41] <dj_> i want there to get root priviliges
[10:41] <jrib> dj_: you should not need root privileges if the file is on your desktop.  What are the permissions on the file?
[10:41] <evenicoulddoit> Can anyone even see this?
[10:41] <ewer> dj_, I see, you must extend nautilus
[10:41] <micronaut> hi, i would like to back up a transmission torrent download that is in progress before i upgrade to ubuntu 9.10.  is it possible to do this?  thanks for any assistance
[10:42] <jrib> evenicoulddoit: just ask your question
[10:42] <archy008> I want to upgrade to 9.10 but they say that it is recommended to use the network update.. but I think that will take too much time.. as opposed to the update through the downloaded alternate iso file
[10:42] <makf> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10, was working in 9.04. Trued to copy 5-udev-default and 60-persistent-input from 9.04 to /etc/udev/rules.d/, that didn't help. Touchpad, embedded in the keyboard, still works, any ideas to debug? How can i find out what devices are added to the system?
[10:42] <ewer> dj, you may google for nautilus extensions rar
[10:42] <ManiS> I have a gfx chipset that only worked until 8.10 cameout, is there any way I can use this computer without upgrading..... arent there standard crappy drivers that come with ubuntu?
[10:42] <solsTiCe> micronaut: you're reformating ? because there should not need to back up i think
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: the path is ~/.empathy  or /home/$USER/.empathy  or $HOME/.empathy
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> SIRprise: i gave you the path, its just a hidden folder
[10:43] <micronaut> solsTiCe: i am currently running linux mint and would like to go to karmic
[10:43] <dj_> ewer that google was not much of a help
[10:43] <evenicoulddoit> Thanks jrib. My issue is that since updating from 9.04 to 9.10, my Adobe Flash player has become unresponsive to mouse clicks, making it impossible to play such content as the BBC iPlayer. Key strokes work, but no clicks register
[10:43] <ewer> dj_ or you may start nautilus with gksudo
[10:43] <damo22> whats the latest LTS release?
[10:43] <damo22> 8.04?
[10:44] <jrib> damo22: yes
[10:44] <bassliner> so how does one dump the actual current configuration of the running x server? i noticed there just even is no xorg.conf at all anymore and i would love to adjust the resolution, which completely fails with the graphical frontend...
[10:44] <Blizzerand> !google >ewer
[10:44] <hexa-> Results for >ewer on Google:
[10:44] <hexa-> --
[10:44] <dj_> i run gksudo: i get command line
[10:44] <jrib> dj_: can you answer my question?
[10:44] <solsTiCe> micronaut: you could make a tarball of ~/.config/transmission and your torrents directory
[10:44] <dj_> jrib: what was your question
[10:44] <ewer> ewer, try: gksudo nautilus
[10:44] <jrib> dj_: you should not need root privileges if the file is on your desktop.  What are the permissions on the file?
[10:44] <Tesssa> question tried to install xubunto 9.10 am using xubuntu 9.4 got as far as 3of6 clicked the right box then clicked forward it jumped from 3of6 to 4of 7, no partition mansger not only the it wiped the partion manager from the installed 9.4 .just had to reinstall 9.4 to get it back anyone tell me why
[10:44] <dj_> jrib: read write
[10:44] <micronaut> solsTiCe: ok. i'll take at look at that. thanks
[10:45] <bassliner> damn, this whole new HAL stuff is just the greatest PITA i've experienced within the last 15 years of configuring X, including dual head setups and sparcstations running BSD's.
[10:45] <solsTiCe> micronaut: with sparse file support to be safe
[10:45] <jrib> dj_: those aren't permissions.  What does: ls -l /path/to/file return?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: did you install from a CD?
[10:45] <damo22> how do i find out which ubuntu version i am running over ssh?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> damo22: lsb_release -c
[10:45] <jrib> !version | damo22
[10:45] <Reliant> Is there a good IDE for editing PHP that's not KDevelop?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> !ide | Reliant
[10:45] <MrWGW> hey there, I just did a 9.10 install, but Ubiquity crashed before installing the bootloader
[10:45] <ManiS> :'(, time to try hackintosh......
[10:46] <MrWGW> what command should I run from the live CD to manually install it?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> !grub2 | MrWGW
[10:46] <MrWGW> right but that doesn't help me
[10:46] <makf> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10, was working in 9.04. Trued to copy 5-udev-default and 60-persistent-input from 9.04 to /etc/udev/rules.d/, that didn't help. Touchpad, embedded in the keyboard, still works, any ideas to debug? How can i find out what devices are added to the system?
[10:46] <MrWGW> all I'm asking is what command do I run to clean up Ubiquity's failure ot install it?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: did you mD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you run the CD verifier?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> MrWGW: you need to use the live CD to install grub2 to the disk
[10:47] <Iormangund> anyone know which would be better for an aspire one? ubuntu netbook remix or ubuntu moblin remix?
[10:47] <dj_> ewer:gksudo nautilus
[10:47] <dj_> Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: "net usershare" returnerade fel 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[10:47] <dj_> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.
[10:47] <FloodBot3> dj_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <h4f> have problem with acer aspire 5720 microphone intel . should I install alsa ?
[10:47] <ewer> dj_, I wouldnt use nautilus as root, you can change the file permitions and then use "regular" nautilus
[10:47] <solsTiCe> md5sum test should not be needed if downloaded with torrent
[10:48] <MrWGW> ActionParsnip1: right
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> solsTiCe: its good to test though, takes a minute and helps garuntee data integrity
[10:48] <dj_> ewer: i have file permission read write:
[10:48] <MrWGW> so what command do I run on the live CD to install GRUB 2?
[10:48] <Tesssa> diddnt think i needed to ActionParsnip as it was from a official download site
[10:48] <solsTiCe> ActionParsnip1: the bittorrent client should do that
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: sure you do, you downloaded a massive block of data of a packet switched network
[10:49] <jrib> dj_: why would you think you need to run file roller as root.  It's writing to your Desktop.  You shouldn't just try to run things as root because it doesn't work otherwise...
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: MD5 doesnt check its an official image, it makes sure it hasnt become garbaged in transit
[10:49] <dj_> jrib: it worked now
[10:49] <Tesssa> well as i am newish to ubuntu it doesnt tell me to do that
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> solsTiCe: it should but its still good to check as single bit errors can cause havok
[10:49] <ewer> dj_, if you do, why would the system ask you to become root? are you trying to add a file to a read only external usb or something?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> !md5 | Tesssa
[10:50] <Deathvalley122> can someone look at my thread on the forum?
[10:50] <h4f> any one know . what's the default sound server alsa or pulseaudio?
[10:50] <jrib> dj_: of course it worked.  But like I said, you should not just go around running things as root because it doesn't work otherwise.  That's a great way to break your system.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> solsTiCe: technically it shouldnt happen with FTP as TCP should error check the data as its transmitted but THATstill fails
[10:50] <Tesssa> its supposed to be a new os
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> MrWGW: the guide will tell you how
[10:50] <MrWGW> gah
[10:50] <coz_> hey guys...when will #ubuntu+1  be online?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> MrWGW: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[10:51] <Tesssa> didnt need to do that when i did the same installing 9.4 and thet worked perfect
[10:51] <c3l_> im running a dual monitor setup. the desktop cube looks just stupid at two monitors, is it possible to make it visible on only one screen?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: maybe you got lucky, its good to test
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: there is also a checker on the CD to test the burned cD is error free too
[10:51] <ewer> never understimate the power off root
[10:52] <Tesssa> well tell me how to test and i will
[10:52] <solsTiCe> ActionParsnip1: yes but bittorrent has a sha1sum of every chunk so there already a check integrity there. and even sometimes a hash check for finished torrent
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> !md5 | Tesssa
[10:53] <dj_> jrib: no this was what i was trying to do: i had a large file i wanted to rar it, i was right clickin on it, add archive then i saw option tar.gz on the left i saw options but i could not choose options to split it, now i see how rar works, i had to choose first what type of file i want to save as .rar or tgz then to split it on volume that i want then enter root password
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> solsTiCe: yes but TCP has CRC and parity checks on each packet as they travel but that can still fail, thats why MD5 exists, no method is 100% fool proof
[10:53] <kwyjibo> can someone tell me how to change my window manager via command line?
[10:53] <foo> hm, I'm using synergyc and I just lost connection on my linux system. I'm on windows now. Is there anyway to start synergyc <IP_ADDRESS> and make it happen in X? So it can reconnect? Thanks
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> kwyjibo: <name of manager> --replace
[10:53] <Tesssa> or better still go back to win7
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> kwyjibo: e.g.   metacity --replace
[10:53] <jrib> dj_: you shoudln't have to enter any root password
[10:53] <ewer> kwyjibo, what exactly do you want to change?
[10:53] <gypsymauro> how to delete a menu entry in ubuntu ? (the wine one for example :)
[10:54] <dj_> jrib: of course i must enter root password iam compressin a file
[10:54] <kwyjibo> ewer: from metacity to openbox. but ActionParsnip1's command worked
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: alacarte can delete some
[10:54] <kwyjibo> ActionParsnip1: thanks :)
[10:54] <jrib> dj_: no, you said you were writing to your desktop.  Why would your user not be able to do that?
[10:54] <henryklyczkowski> Helllo
[10:54] <mitkok> Hey, guys.
[10:54] <Tesssa> so run the install disc for 9.10 and then find and use !md5
[10:54] <henryklyczkowski> Some new bugs founded? :)
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: if you look in ~/.config/menus/applications-merged   you will see the wine menu items, you can simply delete those
[10:55] <dariuzas> who know how to install nvidia drivers in to ubuntu ?
[10:55] <henryklyczkowski> dariuzas LOL google
[10:55] <makf> lots of, henry
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> dariuzas: gksudo jockey-gtk
[10:55] <dariuzas> i have run file
[10:55] <john> hi all. need some help regarding burning dvds
[10:55] <dariuzas> downloaded
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> !google | henryklyczkowski
[10:55] <mitkok> Just installed Ubuntu 9.10, but After enabling and disabling Effects no I cannot right-click on the desktop or change the Desktop wallpaper
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> dariuzas: ignore that, use the packages
[10:55] <Madkiss> hi folks.
[10:55] <a_> hello
[10:55] <Madkiss> i am facing a problem with Karmic Koala; I have nfsroot, and apparently, rpc.statd is not started
[10:55] <gypsymauro> ActionParsnip1: in alacarte the delete button is disabled and in that file you said there is nothing about wine :(
[10:56] <makf> Can anyone help with udev? HID keyboard not working in 9.10, was working in 9.04. Trued to copy 5-udev-default and 60-persistent-input from 9.04 to /etc/udev/rules.d/, that didn't help. Touchpad, embedded in the keyboard, still works, any ideas to debug? How can i find out what devices are added to the system? It's useless to google about that, because it's the rare model of the dell notebook - m2010.
[10:56] <Tesssa> or where and when do i typ !md5
[10:56] <a_> apt-get update Error
[10:56] <a_>   Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[10:56] <a_> 99% [12 Packages bzip2 0] [Connecting to th.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)] bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: you should see long names relating to the folder structure
[10:56] <henryklyczkowski> ubottu Uff ,well basics are basics.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: you could try: gksudo alacarte   to get access
[10:56] <Guest91602> anyone about to help me with problems i got burning dvds??
[10:56] <a_> How can I do ? Anybody help me please ~~~
[10:56] <gypsymauro> ActionParsnip1: yes I run as root, and I've just ~/.config/menus/applications.menu not the merged one
[10:57] <dj_> guest91602: what help you need
[10:57] <henryklyczkowski> makf More bugs than 8.04 lts had?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: you run it as you, its your profile, not roots
[10:57] <makf> I have dmesg here, there seems to be some interesting info about it...
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: close the terminal and run it as YOU
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: you will find the entries
[10:58] <Grozzy> Hi!
[10:58] <foo> hm, I'm using synergyc and I just lost connection on my linux system. I'm on windows now. Is there anyway to start synergyc <IP_ADDRESS> and make it happen in X (via ssh)? So it can reconnect? Thanks
[10:58] <Guest91602> hi dj. ever since ive installed ubuntu im unable to burn dvds and i really dont want to go back to that other os. it keeps telling me all sorts of things about not being able to read file, wrong format etc. the film is an avi file.
[10:58] <dj_> jrib: can i rar even an .iso file
[10:58] <jrib> dj_: sure, why not
[10:58] <Grozzy> Sound issues in 9.10 :(
[10:58] <foo> Can I run a command via SSH but make it look like it's coming from my X session?
[10:58] <grawity> foo: Try this... DISPLAY=:0.0 synergyc blahblah
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> Guest91602: did you md5 test the ISO?
[10:58] <dj_> grozzy: yes graphic issues and sound issues , whait for upgrade
[10:58] <Guest91602> its a film that was downloaded
[10:58] <Grozzy> Ah okey
[10:59] <Guest91602> not an iso
[10:59] <Chewtoy> Hello. :)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> Guest91602: ok what ormat is the film?
[10:59] <gypsymauro> ActionParsnip1: I got.. I was selecting the tree element and not the list element ... :) I need to sleep more on nights
[10:59] <Guest91602> the format is avi
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> gypsymauro: cool :)
[10:59] <Tesssa> when and where do i type !md5 ActionParsnip i am a newcomer to ubuntu reallyjohn
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> Guest91602: then i suggest you use devede to convert it to a video DVD which you can put in any hard DVD player and play it
[11:00] <gypsymauro> tank you
[11:00] <foo> grawity: thanks, looking for something like that, but that didn't work. What if DISPLAY needs to be set to something else?
[11:00] <foo> hm
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: you don't. you read the links in the output
[11:00] <indus> hi hello
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> !md5
[11:00] <henryklyczkowski> Karmic have more bugs than hardy had?
[11:00] <Creap> my upgrade to 9.10 has frozen at 90% "Installing the upgrades", is it a bad idea to kill the update and reboot? or what should I do
[11:00] <Creap> it's been like that for 10+ minutes
[11:00] <Guest91602> is that a programme that will convert it?? but then how do i copy it to dvd?? ive tried all kinds of copy software without much luck
[11:00] <daleharvey> ok, got a bunch packages that are in dodgy states because ubuntu froze during install
[11:01] <Ruby-g> ntfs-3g process takes 50 per cent cpu usage
[11:01] <daleharvey> apt-get remove doesnt work, it just errors
[11:01] <DigitalKiwi> DeVeDe is awesome
[11:01] <henryklyczkowski> Creap Best way is to do clean install, most of bugs are caused by upgrade
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> Creap: i'd give it a while, if you select to view details is anything going on?
[11:01] <daleharvey> how can I get rid of them
[11:01] <Pachad93> hello
[11:01] <Creap> ActionParsnip1: no, and trying to close the window it says "not responding do you want to kill.."
[11:01] <Grozzy> HEY, I have no "System > Preferences > Sound" !!
[11:02] <Guest91602> is this devede software on the list or do i have to look for it?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> daleharvey: can you use http://pastebin.com   to provide the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> Creap: not good
[11:02] <kahen> the clock applet no longer supports manually setting whether it's showing 12 or 24 hour format? it's tied to user locale now?
[11:02] <Creap> henryklyczkowski: I don't want to lose all my installed apps etc
[11:02] <Guest11691> Hi I woundring if somone can help me. I have a sound prob. i just gone from Wind to Ubuntu 9.10 and my sound is lagging in Mozilla or Vlc some times it stops
[11:02] <Pachad93> Hello. I can't hear sound through my headphone jack. My laptop speakers, however, work fine... Please Help!!!
[11:02] <Madkiss> err, on my system, nfs-common has no init-script or upstart-job
[11:03] <Tesssa> looking at the bugs being repeorted here i think i will wait a while untill they get 9.10 sorted
[11:03] <daleharvey> sure, one second
[11:03] <kaie> good day. after upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, mouse touchpad on ibm thinkpad t42 is no longer working
[11:03] <MrWGW> if I do a grub-install /dev/sda3, for example, that would install GRUB to that specific partition?
[11:03] <Tesssa> not good for a system that ubuntu says is better than windows
[11:03] <MrWGW> what I'd prefer to do is put grub 2 on the same partition that's root for my new Ubuntu install
[11:03] <MrWGW> and then chainload it for grub 1
[11:04] <Guest91602> where can i get devede from????????
[11:04] <Pachad93> Hello. I can't hear sound through my headphone jack. My laptop speakers, however, work fine... Please Help!!!
[11:04] <Brianetta> Can anybody tell me whether Ubuntu Software Centre can display the popularity of a package, and if so, how?
[11:04] <Tesssa> 9.4 works perfect now i have reinstalled it
[11:04] <henryklyczkowski> So many compaining people :)
[11:04] <filgy> newsflash people: new releases tend to have bugs.. don't upgrade immediately if your machine is mission critical..
[11:04] <iceroot> Tesssa: never touch a running system
[11:04] <Tobzion> Anyone in here that ar Op in Ubuntu-se?
[11:04] <MrWGW> I find the instructions on the wiki extremely vague and unhelpful btw
[11:05] <ango> ok guys how do i kill gdm in 9.10?
[11:05] <kwyjibo> ActionParsnip1: sorry to bother, but.. how can i make the new window manager choice stick? preferrably by command line. if i log out, the old one is back
[11:05] <henryklyczkowski> Creap Well if you isist to upgrade be prepared for bugs
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> ango: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:05] <daleharvey> or I cant, because it freezes
[11:05] <Brianetta> ango: Ctrl-ALt-F1, log in, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:05] <Pachad93> Hello. I can't hear sound through my headphone jack. My laptop speakers, however, work fine... Please Help!!!
[11:05] <ivanatwork> Tobzion, try ask here ;)
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> kwyjibo: if you add an entry to your startup items to run the command at logon
[11:05] <Chewtoy> How do you change the GDM-screen? I took a look at the Wiki(http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic#Login_Menu_settings) but it seems to be wrong as it points to a place that doesn't exist..
[11:06] <Brianetta> Pachad93: You might want to instasll also-mixer and un-mute the headphones
[11:06] <Brianetta> alsa-mixer
[11:06] <henryklyczkowski> People don't upgrade, make clean install.
[11:06] <ango> thanks
[11:06] <Pachad93> i am looking at alsa-mixer right now
[11:06] <kwyjibo> ActionParsnip1: but isn't there a config file somewhere that's running the old command, i can edit?
[11:06] <coz_> Pachad93,  try opening a terminal and typing  alsamixer    see if any of the volume sliders are down low
[11:06] <Pachad93> heaphones are not muted
[11:06] <Pachad93> coz_, not muted
[11:06] <Pachad93> Brianetta, not muted
[11:06] <Pachad93> Brianetta, not muted
[11:06] <Pachad93> woops
[11:06] <coz_> Pachad93,  but are any of the sliders  down low
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> kwyjibo: not sure there
[11:07] <Pachad93> coz_, nope
[11:07] <kwyjibo> k
[11:07] <coz_> Pachad93,  mm
[11:07] <kwyjibo> does anyone know how to perma-change the default window manager from the command line?
[11:07] <Tobzion> Whell i have a huge Sond lag, first it was mutet but whel i chang the volume ut to the right on desktop i get sound but laggy, and i am totaly new in ubuntu :P
[11:07] <theadmin> Grm. Karmic messed Pidgin up. Popups are at the wrong place
[11:07] <raph_ael> hi, anyone using mocp and experiencing a crash with it ?
[11:08] <Chewtoy> theadmin: Use Emapthy instead?
[11:08] <theadmin> Chewtoy: Good idea.
[11:08] <Pachad93> coz_, I think i found the issue, don't know if this helps
[11:08] <Pachad93> coz_, in alsa mixer, I have the choice between mic jack in or line in
[11:08] <coz_> Pachad93,  what have you found?
[11:08] <henryklyczkowski> I wonder if karmic have more bugs than hardy
[11:09] <Pachad93> coz_, and no volume control
[11:09] <partyhangover> henryklyczkowski: stop wondering
[11:09] <Pachad93> for the mic jack
[11:09] <henryklyczkowski> partyhangover :)
[11:09] <robin0800> Pachad93: alsamixer in terminal
[11:09] <nosklo> Pachad93: run "amixer contents" and pastebin the result
[11:09] <henryklyczkowski> partyhangover U suggest to install karmic?
[11:09] <coz_> Pachad93,   high light that part and push up the with arrows if a volume control ispossible it should open the volume slide
[11:09] <partyhangover> henryklyczkowski: have you upgraded? or waiting to upgrade
[11:10] <partyhangover> henryklyczkowski: why not, always nice to have newer releases, also it looks nicer
[11:10] <Pachad93> pastebin?
[11:10] <henryklyczkowski> partyhangover I'm waiting for LTS
[11:10] <partyhangover> henryklyczkowski: aah thats 10.10
[11:10] <alex_n> hallo
[11:10] <Pachad93> amixer contents
[11:10] <Pachad93> numid=17,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Switch'
[11:10] <Pachad93>   ; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=1
[11:10] <Pachad93>   : values=on
[11:10] <Pachad93> numid=16,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume'
[11:10] <Pachad93>   ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=64,step=0
[11:10] <FloodBot3> Pachad93: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:10] <Pachad93>   : values=64
[11:11] <Pachad93>   | dBscale-min=-48.00dB,step=0.75dB,mute=0
[11:11] <Madkiss> wah. apparently, it's waiting until forever.
[11:11] <duncan_> partyhangover, 10.04
[11:11] <Pachad93> numid=11,iface=MIXER,name='Headphone Playback Switch'
[11:11] <henryklyczkowski> partyhangover It took me a long time to set up hardy for working
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
[11:11] <Pachad93>   : values=on,on
[11:11] <Pachad93> numid=10,iface=MIXER,name='Headphone Playback Volume'
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=64,step=0
[11:11] <Pachad93>   | dBscale-min=-51.00dB,step=0.20dB,mute=0
[11:11] <Pachad93> numid=7,iface=MIXER,name='Mic Jack Mode'
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; type=ENUMERATED,access=rw------,values=1,items=2
[11:11] <partyhangover> duncan_: its not sure,
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; Item #0 'Mic In'
[11:11] <FloodBot3> Pachad93: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; Item #1 'Line In'
[11:11] <Pachad93>   : values=0
[11:11] <Pachad93> numid=2,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Switch'
[11:11] <raph_ael> uhuh
[11:11] <Pachad93>   ; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
[11:11] <partyhangover> duncan_: could be 10.10 due to some gnome issue
[11:11] <Pachad93>   : values=off,off
[11:11] <nosklo> Pachad93: I said "pastebin" the results.
[11:11] <grawity> Floodbot fail O_o
[11:12] <niko> please Pachad93 stop flooding the channel
[11:12] <duncan_> partyhangover, ah, last I heard they were releasing 10.04 as the end of gnome2 and moving onto 3 after the LTS
[11:12] <vox> he stopped 25 seconds ago.
[11:12] <Pachad93>   ; Item #1 'Digital Mic 1'
[11:12] <Pachad93>   : values=1
[11:12] <Pachad93> numid=12,iface=MIXER,name='Mux Capture Volume'
[11:12] <grawity> vox: Did he?
[11:12] <Pachad93>   ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=4,step=0
[11:12] <partyhangover> duncan_: could be,
[11:12] <duncan_> vox, apparently not :)
[11:12] <nosklo> the results of amixer contents are very big
[11:12] <vox> ...
[11:12] <partyhangover> Pachad93: use paste
[11:12] <ActionParsnip1> kwyjibo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=463928  may help
[11:12] <henryklyczkowski> duncan In my opinion 8.04 its most stable
[11:12] <Tobzion> I am woundering whi it says i am banned from Ubuntu-se When i have never been in ther ore used linux before or irssi
[11:12] <generic112> hey, installing 9.10, it seems to have frozen on formatting the swap partition for a few minutes now, any suggestions?
[11:13] <nosklo> wait at least a couple minutes
[11:13] <jhattara> have there been any bigger issues with people updating Jaunty to Karmic ?
[11:13] <partyhangover> Tobzion: maybe someone used your ip
[11:13] <fasta> Is there some official URL which always lists the latest stable Ubuntu release?
[11:13] <grawity> Tobzion: You mean #ubuntu-se?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> Tobzion: then ask in #freenode
[11:13] <fasta> I mean stable over multiple years.
[11:13] <Tobzion> grawity: Yes
[11:13] <generic112> fasta: LTS is always listed on ubuntu.com
[11:13] <smego> hi
[11:13] <duncan_> henryklyczkowski, aye it is, i'm just wanting 10.04 as kernel and drivers etc aren't compatable with any of my hardware and I don't want to be doing massive leaps in kernel versions, etc
[11:14] <fasta> generic112, I mean in a format where a program can find it.
[11:14] <Pachad93> nosklo ?
[11:14] <vox> Pachad93: use a pastebin.
[11:14] <Pachad93> vox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/304950/
[11:14] <nosklo> Pachad93: I said "pastebin" the results.
[11:14] <Pachad93> nosklo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/304950/
[11:14] <keebus1> hello everyone :)
[11:14] <Pachad93> I was banned - don't think you could see me typing
[11:14] <DigitalKiwi> Pachad93: that was the idea
[11:14] <henryklyczkowski> duncan_ What do you mean by not compatible?
[11:14] <generic112> \d+\.d+ LTS regular expression would find it on the download page :)
[11:14] <grawity> Pachad93: You were banned because you were flooding the channel with a ton of lines from amixer.
[11:15] <Pachad93> That was an accident
[11:15] <Pachad93> Hardly ban-worthy
[11:15] <duncan_> henryklyczkowski, hardware not supported by drivers, for example my laptop requires at least the 2.6.30 kernel to be able to suspend and hibernate
[11:15] <vox> the ban stops your client from sending anything to channel
[11:15] <generic112> can anyone help me with my installer freezeup?
[11:15] <Pachad93> I had the results in my buffer instead of the web address
[11:15] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: i've been banned for less
[11:15] <keebus1> Just a quick question, I'm looking for some aid I couldn't find by myself googling around: Since revision 14 of the kernel 2.6.31 (the karmic built-in kernel version), my console, since it starts booting, get spammed by messages like "CPU0: Temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled"
[11:15] <nosklo> Pachad93: what are you using as sound source to test?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> Pachad93: i was banned for using away then back
[11:16] <Pachad93> nosklo, vlc
[11:16] <lianimator> hi. I've just installed 9.10 and I'm stuck on a commandline terminal login with a blinking screen.. and half of what I type does not get typed. please help
[11:16] <henryklyczkowski> duncan_ Some other issues?
[11:16] <Pachad93> nosklo, ubuntu system sounds and youtube doesn't work either
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: clean install or upgrade?
[11:16] <keebus1> I can't move to a console by CTRL+ALT+Fx because it gets soon full of those messages and I can't type anything.