[11:10] <endstille> heyho, just wanted to drop a comment.. :) it is impossible, to install precise final on a system on sdaX, while sdb is a locked drive the setup tries to acces the locked drive... after 6 to 7 minutes i stopped the try, unlocked sdb via reboot and successfully installed to sda.... you can see ti here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hg9rtpnh9to5ljk/Install_SSD.mp4
[11:11] <Darael> ogra_: Hang on.  I'm confused now.  Do tasks mark as automatic, or do metapackages?
[11:11] <Naemdar> Time to power down and prep the hd trays, dvd burner, and gut the fans from the old case to totally fan out the new one.
[11:11] <nicol> http://paste.ubuntu.com/957254/
[11:11] <txomon|home> DoctorPepper, yes
[11:11] <ogra_> Darael, tasks mark as automatic
[11:11] <pratz> can please any one help me to install u12.04
[11:11] <nicol> I am  compile  the gcc-code-assist but failed
[11:11] <Naemdar> from 2 to 6 lol
[11:11] <Jordan_U> !bug | endstille
[11:11] <nicol> who could help me
[11:11] <nicol> http://paste.ubuntu.com/957254/
[11:11] <Darael> ogra_: Because I used tasksel (which uses aptitude, generally, IME), and I have things that I'd expect to be marked automatic flagged as manual.
[11:11] <pratz> the installer gives error every time i try to install
[11:11] <pratz> installer error is "Internal Error" , any ideas ?
[11:11] <ogra_> Darael, no, tasksel and aptitude are two totally different things
[11:12] <Naemdar> Hopefully be back online tomorrow, when the new mobo, processor and ram arrives.  *crosses fingers*
[11:12] <txomon|home> pratz, you can try alternate CD, and if you dont feel anoyed by shell installs, the mini iso
[11:12] <Darael> ogra_: Yes, and tasksel calls aptitude.  I know, because I had a whole episode on amd64 using tasksel because of the aptitude multiarch bug.
[11:12] <ogra_> aptitude is an alternative system to apt-get ... using separate DBs etc
[11:12] <endstille> okay, so i do ubunt-bug ubiquity, once i'm at home again
[11:12] <ogra_> Darael, well, then you might face an aptitude issue
[11:13] <ogra_> i know for sure the apt-get based task install sets everything to automatic
[11:13] <ogra_> (else all ubuntu images woudl end up with the manual flags for all packages :) )
[11:14] <pratz> txomon|home: from where can i download mini iso ??
[11:14] <normatif> how do I add an app I extracted to my home folder to appear on unity app lens?
[11:14] <Darael> My reading of the aptitude manual suggests that /anything/ pulled in as a dependency should be marked as automatic, even though it prompts to confirm the additional installs.  I also understood that more recent versions of aptitude and apt-cli used the same database for such things.
[11:14] <Darael> !minimal | pratz
[11:14]  * ogra_ cant help on aptitude, sorry ... we dont use it anywhere in ubuntu usually
[11:15] <txomon|home> Darael, stop using aptitude and use apt-get
[11:15] <pratz> txomon|home: dude i do not have internet connection while installing
[11:15] <Darael> ogra_: That's what I /thought/ was the case, but apt-cache depends tasksel shows "Depends: aptitude"
[11:15] <txomon|home> pratz, so use Alternate cd
[11:16] <txomon|home> mini iso + minimal packets == alternate iso
[11:16] <ogra_> Darael, right, as i said above, might be a bug in aptitude
[11:16] <Darael> txomon|home: The issue is that tasksel uses aptitude, and that tasksel is in the text-mode installer, not that I'm using aptitude myself.
[11:16] <pratz> txomon|home: what is difference between the normal and alternate cd ?
[11:16] <txomon|home> pratz, alternate + no-shell gui == normal
[11:16] <auronandace> !alternate
[11:16] <beata> What are you using these days instead of aptitude? (curious)
[11:16] <Imre> Hy guys! Do you know anything about the issue with vsftpd and Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:17] <txomon|home> beata, apt-get
[11:17] <Imre> If I set the folders chmod to a-w ( or anything that allows write ), then I can’t connect. [refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()]
[11:17] <Imre> If I set it to have no write access, then I can join, but for what? I have no write access.
[11:17] <beata> Oh, right. ;)
[11:17] <txomon|home> !apt-get
[11:18] <Darael> txomon|home: I'm fully familiar with apt-get, I just wish the alternate (and minimal) CDs would use it instead of aptitude (although I can see the use of the latter for the "manual package selection" option.
[11:18] <txomon|home> Darael, I discourage you to use that
[11:19] <txomon|home> for me it always gives problems
[11:19] <Darael> txomon|home: I /don't/ use the "manual package selection" option.  I /have/ used the tasksel interface, which /still/ calls aptitude.
[11:20] <lucian> empathy seems broken
[11:20] <lucian> the contact list appears
[11:20] <auronandace> lucian: thats so totally awesome
[11:20] <lucian> but if trying to open the account list doesn't do anything
[11:21] <lucian> neither does clicking on contacts
[11:21] <lucian> could be related to the upgrade
[11:21] <lucian> auronandace: it's common, isn't it?
[11:21] <Darael> As for my original question, what I was after was not a way of cloning my package list but of getting a list of all the manually-installed packages that weren't dependencies of anything, so I could get rid of things that I no longer needed but that "apt-get autoremove" wouldn't see.
[11:21] <ogra_> Darael, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/424643 (pretty pld bug, feel free to drop into #ubuntu-installer if you know a solution :) )
[11:21] <auronandace> lucian: sorry, i tend to use pidgin
[11:21] <ogra_> s/pld/old/
[11:21] <lucian> auronandace: i might have to do that, i guess
[11:21] <pengw> hello all
[11:22] <pengw> one question
[11:22] <Rar9> hi how can I easly update my php 5.3.2 to 5.3.11? Ubuntu 10.04 lts
[11:22] <auronandace> !latest | Rar9
[11:22] <txomon|home> Darael, the best usually is to do it yourself. you can take all the manually selected ones, and filter the not real ones
[11:22] <pengw> currently i am working some code based on opencl. I want to use my favor IDE geany to deal with them but I dont how
[11:23] <Rar9> ubottu what about 5.3.10?
[11:23] <pengw> who know how to configure geany to work with opencl. It should as sample as gcc -lOpenCL hellow.c
[11:24] <Rar9> auronandace what about 5.3.10?
[11:24] <Darael> txomon|home: I know - that's what I'm doing, in conjunction with "aptitude why" (if you can give me an apt-get or apt-cache equivalent, that'd be great, incidentally), I was just hoping for something involving a little less manual effort.
[11:24] <auronandace> Rar9: same applies, you did read what ubottu wrote?
[11:24] <txomon|home> Darael, apt-cache rdepends
[11:25] <txomon|home> or depends
[11:25] <Lucasho> [ ·~ txomon|home·~ ]  - !
[11:25] <txomon|home> Lucasho, ?
[11:25] <Darael> Rar9: The whole point is that the version of a package in any given Ubuntu release is likely to be constant.  See if it's in backports, or a ppa, or a newer release, or compile it yourself (in descending order of preference).
[11:25] <Lucasho> [ ·~ txomon|home·~ ]  - como estas viejo ?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> !es
[11:26] <LjL> Lucasho: this is a support channel, please take chit-chat to PM or #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:26] <Darael> txomon|home: Not the same; aptitude why gives results based on what else is installed, apt-cache (r)depends just gives a dependency list, which is /much/ more effort to work out.
[11:26] <lucian> hmm, telepathy-mission control keeps crashing now
[11:27] <Darael> Well, I know where to find libapt; I suppose I could always write it myself.
[11:28] <ogra_> Darael, well, the "right" way to install a task is apt-get install taskname^ (note the caret) ... and i actually thought tasksel uses that in the backend since a while ... i might be wrong though
[11:28] <ogra_> (someone in #ubuntu-installer might know though)
[11:28] <Darael> ogra_: Maybe it does in Precise.  It certainly doesn't in Oneiric.
[11:29] <bookpage> hey, i've got a problem. I believe one of my display config files has become orphan'd and my recovery mode won't display anything. How can I do a full disk check to find the orphaned file and fix it?
[11:29] <Lucasho> [ ·~ lucian·~ ]  - holaaa :D
[11:29] <lucian> Lucasho: ?
[11:29] <txomon|home> did the same to me
[11:29] <Lucasho> [ ·~ Lucasho·~ ]  - que tal ? :D
[11:30] <BitPuffin> What does the ubuntu screencast team use to record their videos?
[11:32] <dvl305> sup
[11:32] <maxiepax> if i edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and change the location of initrd from /dev/disk/by-id/asdasdsa to /dev/sda1 (will be using ghost to deploy multiple servers), do i need to re-run grub-install or is it enough to just edit the file?
[11:32] <lalala> hellow
[11:32] <lalala> so this is the help channel ?
[11:32] <Darael> maxiepax: You're still using grub1?
[11:33] <pengw> Hi all which file is the configure file as bashrac for every user?
[11:33] <maxiepax> Darael: hmm.. not sure, its not ubuntu however, this is a general grub question.
[11:35] <Lucasho> [ ·~ txomon|home·~ ]  - pv !
[11:35] <trashi> hi. i try to setup a cron job. ps ax sais, cron is running. i tried crontab -e and editing a new file in /etc/cron.d/whatever but it doesnt work. the cron simply does not start and i have no idea why. could please take a look -> 33 13     * * *     root   /root/backup.sh > /dev/null (this is just a test so of course i fix the time from one test to the next)
[11:36] <gaelfx> my two-finger scrolling is working in other applications, but not in nautilus, any ideas why that might be?
[11:36] <txomon|home> trashi, try tail -f /var/log/syslog and see what it says
[11:36] <krababbel> maxiepax: probably grub-update needed, not sure
[11:37] <trashi> txomon|home: i did ... it sais nothing ...- thats the reason why i know, the cronjob didnt start
[11:38] <txomon|home> trashi, check the cron syntax
[11:38] <txomon|home> man 5 crontab
[11:39] <tom95> I have a new installation von ubuntu12.04. after some restarts it suddenly looked like this http://imagebin.org/210357 , I had no background and most of the keyboardshortcuts weren't working anymore. Any idea what could have caused this? I don't think I did anything wrong.
[11:39] <txomon|home> trashi, you know you should be at minute 13 and second 33, don't you?
[11:40] <lalala> is there anyone who can help me find the bottleneck in my home network ?
[11:40] <lalala> *2 pcs only
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| lalala
[11:41] <trashi> txomon|home:  well, 33 13     * * * = minute 33, hour 13 ... isnt it?
[11:41] <txomon|home> MonkeyDust, he did
[11:41] <IdleOne> lalala: ##networking might be a better place to ask
[11:41] <lalala> thx
[11:41] <bookpage> okay, how about: best software for finding/fixing orphasns without going into recovery mode
[11:41] <txomon|home> trashi, true
[11:42] <txomon|home> trashi, I would suggest you put * * * * * for the moment
[11:42] <trashi> txomon|home: i will try
[11:42] <txomon|home> trashi, its just to see it gets fired
[11:43] <trashi> jep
[11:43] <Darael> txomon|home, ogra_:  Incidentally, I found something that looks very much like what I was after in deborphan.  Thanks for your suggestions.
[11:43] <ogra_> :)
[11:44] <txomon|home> Darael, link?
[11:44] <Darael> !info deborphan
[11:44] <trashi> txomon|home: works ... Apr 30 11:43:01 test CRON[1718]: (root) CMD (echo "test")
[11:45] <trashi> txomon|home: could it be a problem, my script is in /root directory?
[11:45] <Darael> txomon|home: Lists installed packages with no installed reverse dependencies, or that's what the extended description suggests.
[11:45] <txomon|home> Darael, but, apt detects automatically those ones
[11:45] <txomon|home> ahmmm
[11:45] <Darael> txomon|home: No, apt only automatically detects those where they were pulled in as dependencies of something else.  Deborphan, if I read it aright, will pick up ones that weren't.
[11:45] <txomon|home> trashi, don't really know, haven't tried :D
[11:46] <dexcitrix> wow, freenode/ubuntu has some major userbase compared to ircnet :)
[11:46] <trashi> txomon|home: i will check it
[11:48] <sirriffsalot_> Hey! I'm using unity and I would really like to remove the "workspace switcher" option in the panel... How would I do that?
[11:49] <Darael> txomon|home: A quick test (deborphan -a | most) suggests it does what I wanted - it's picking up even things that were manually installed.
[11:50] <Darael> OK, next irritating question:  How do I do the equivalent of "aptitude markauto" with apt-(get|cache)?
[11:51] <trashi> txomon|home: works also from /root ... thanks for your help  for first ... i try to debug it and work that out
[11:51] <L3top> Darael: apt-mark markauto
[11:52] <Darael> L3top: Ah, apt-mark.  Right, I'd missed that.  Thanks.
[11:52]  * Darael looks up the manpage.
[11:53] <gaelfx> my two-finger scrolling is working in other applications, but not in nautilus, any ideas why that might be?
[11:55] <TomLM> How do i kill "wpa_supplicant"?
[11:55] <Darael> TomLM: Are you sure you want to?  What are you actually trying to achieve?
[11:56] <Darael> TomLM: A "sudo killall wpa_supplicant" should do it if you're absolutely sure that's what you want, but may not be the best course.
[11:56] <TomLM> Dareal, I need to run "airdrop" to see if i can bypass my own network's security.
[11:56] <TomLM> And thanks.
[11:57] <Darael> If it's running, though, it's probably doing so as a result of something else.   :S
[11:57] <TomLM> Nope.
[11:57] <Darael> TomLM: Might want to do that, then.  "sudo stop network-manager".
[11:57] <bookpage> Darael, i mean orphan files. is that possible? or am i thinking of orphan'd processes?
[11:58] <Darael> TomLM: Don't forget to "sudo start network-manager" when you're done, or your networking applet will stop working until you do (or until you reboot)
[11:58] <TomLM> Darael, Thanks it worked! :)
[11:58] <Dr_willis> isent it sudo service SERVICVENAME start     or similer..
[11:59] <Dr_willis> brb
[11:59] <redact3d> ntern0t
[11:59] <Darael> bookpage: I'm sorry, my reference to deborphans was my own problem (finding orphaned packages).  I don't think I can help with yours.
[12:00] <DarsVaeda> hi, I get this when starting eclipse after 12.04 update: Application "org.eclipse.ui.ide.workbench" could not be found in the registry.
[12:00] <wadechandler> Is the Unity Shell open source? Looking at the contribute page I didn't immediately see information about it. I just want to figure out how to contribute patches to it and also to find its sources and review them. I have to get it working better for laptops/desktops and multiple monitors and talk to the devs of it etc.
[12:03] <z3bra> hi all
[12:03] <z3bra> !
[12:04] <Dr_willis> howdies
[12:04] <Darael> z3bra: Greetings.  Don't mean to sound rude, but this is the support channel.  If thou'dst like to chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic.  If thou hast a question, of course, feel free to ask.
[12:05] <z3bra> Darael: maybe I join to help others, but I'm quite polish ;)
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> thou art polish
[12:05] <troulouliou_dev> Hi ambiance the in gnome classic is white now is it a bug ?
[12:06] <Dr_willis> troulouliou_dev,  theres some quirk that makes the menus background black or white dependong on how they were called i read.
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> troulouliou_dev  that's radiance, ambiance is black
[12:06] <Dr_willis> troulouliou_dev,  the webupd8 site has a bit of a work around for it - if thats the issue
[12:06] <chandru_in> I installed 12.04 and when I run eclipse, there is no entry in launcher and it does not show up in alt+tab
[12:07] <Dr_willis> eclipse always seem to be weird. ;) wonder why that is.
[12:07] <myhero> i made a backup of installed packages with aptoncd....but i didnt burn it instead i havethe backup.iso so now if i fresh install then how to restore packages from this backup.iso assuming that if its a fresh install then there wil not be aptoncd installed ?
[12:07] <mraxilus> for ubuntu cloud, is the graphics processing done on the server or the client's machine?
[12:07] <acer-ubuntu> l3top: i am here now to ask
[12:07] <troulouliou_dev> Dr_willis, i have it black on one laptop and white on mine , guess it is a bug will check the site
[12:07] <chandru_in> Dr_willis, Any known workaround for this?
[12:08] <greenmang0> is default "umask" value for ubuntu 12.04 "0002" ?
[12:08] <fulat2k> hi folks, how good is the hardware detection for Macbook Pro in 12.04?
[12:08] <myhero> i made a backup of installed packages with aptoncd....but i didnt burn it instead i have the backup.iso so now if i fresh install then how to restore packages from this backup.iso assuming that if its a fresh install then there wil not be aptoncd installed ?
[12:09] <L3top> myhero: you can loop mount the iso... or burn it...
[12:09] <myhero> l3top: loop means what ?
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> myhero  open aptoncd and choose restore
[12:10] <myhero> if i fresh install then there will not be aptoncd installed
[12:10] <acer-ubuntu> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop, and am now trying to get it to run.  In order for it to boot successfully, I have to edit the menu item and add 'nomodeset'. With this, Ubuntu boots up.
[12:10] <acer-ubuntu> Is there a fix for this, so that I don't have to constantly add the nomodeset? I tried to install the proprietary drivers but I still had the same problem
[12:10] <z3bra> myhero: just install it before retriving your packages
[12:10] <Dr_willis> chandru_in,  i just recall eclipse being weird even on the 11.10 release with similer issues. I imagine its due to how its being called/ran as a bash script calling a java app. but i never use the app
[12:10] <chandru_in> ok
[12:11] <myhero> mount how to install .deb packages ?
[12:11] <acer-ubuntu> anyone can help me?
[12:11] <Daiz|> acer-ubuntu, having the same problem as you atm, it's so sad.
[12:11] <myhero> where can i get a virtual drive mounting package for ubuntu
[12:11] <Dr_willis> acer-ubuntu,  install the drivers for your video card, or try adding the nomodeset to the default optiuons in /etc/default/grub (i think)
[12:11] <L3top> myhero: man mount
[12:11] <Daiz|> Dr_willis, what if the drivers are already installed after using 12.04beta?
[12:12] <z3bra> acer-ubuntu: Edit yout /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:12] <myhero> l3top: ok
[12:12] <acer-ubuntu> Dr_willis,: where to find driver for my video card, i didnt find it
[12:12] <Dr_willis> Daiz|,  for my nvidia system. i had to use nomodeset untill i got the drivers installed.
[12:12] <z3bra> acer-ubuntu: And add "nomodeset" at the end of your entry
[12:12] <airdem> why am i only able to change the lang symwide but not per user?ste
[12:12] <L3top> does grub2 use menu.lst?
[12:12] <Dr_willis> z3bra,  ubuntu uses grub2 now...
[12:12] <airdem> *systemwide
[12:12] <myhero> can backups of one version will be allowed to install on other version of ubuntu like backups of 11.10 on 12.04
[12:12] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: what GPU?
[12:12] <Daiz|> Dr_willis, It's a laptop with integrated intel atom, I can only boot to my second OS.
[12:13] <z3bra> Dr_willis: my bad, reflex from my other distro ^^
[12:13] <acer-ubuntu> z3bra: nomodeset is bad view, looks like open program in safe mode
[12:13] <wadechandler> acer-ubuntu: did you look in /var/log/X.org.*.log? There might be a specific message. Usually I do some googling with those and find workarounds.
[12:13] <Dr_willis> Daiz|,  odd.  My intel netbook works good with 12.04
[12:13] <Daiz|> Dr_willis, it worked fine on beta, then after the final, boom black screen after logging in, and then the HDD got corrupted.
[12:13] <acer-ubuntu> wadechandler: i dont understand, i am newbie
[12:14] <myhero> can backups of one version will be allowed to install on other version of ubuntu like backups of 11.10 on 12.04 ???
[12:14] <Dr_willis> Daiz|,  no ideea then. check the bug reports perhaps maybe a known issue.
[12:14] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: what is GPU?
[12:14] <vitor-br> My unity does not load at login? someone has this problem?
[12:14] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[12:14] <L3top> in a terminal acer-ubuntu
[12:14] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: okay
[12:14] <L3top> Paste teh output here
[12:14] <L3top> the*
[12:14] <myhero> can backups of one version will be allowed to install on other version of ubuntu like backups of 11.10 on 12.04 ???
[12:15] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[12:15] <L3top> myhero: I would not expect much success with that.
[12:15] <myhero> l3top: how is 12.04
[12:15] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: this is what i get in terminal, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07)
[12:16] <wadechandler> when you get a screen up, run a terminal, and then cd to /var/log and ls -lsda X*. Look through those files looking for error messages. If you have a really hard time with it, you can email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and be sure and attach your logs. I might be able to help. No promises...deps on what is in the logs.
[12:16] <Marzata> 12.04 is awesome. Thank you, Mark!
[12:16] <z3bra> acer-ubuntu: did you installed private pilots ?
[12:16] <myhero> marzata: ok
[12:17] <acer-ubuntu> z3bra: what u mean private pilot ?
[12:17] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel i965-va-driver libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[12:17] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel i965-va-driver libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[12:17] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: i will try
[12:17] <Daiz|> L3top, will that work in the recovery console?
[12:17] <z3bra> That's what I meant ^^ haha
[12:17] <wadechandler> 12.04 is awesome except for unity. On a laptop or desktop ... at least for this programmer ... it is less productive because of the whole left side of the screen biz and application window switching is a pain...i.e. I'm in one app and want to go to another app and a specific window...using only the mouse.
[12:18] <wadechandler> Other than that though I would love unity I think
[12:18] <L3top> Sorry... will what work Daiz|?
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> !nounity| wadechandler
[12:18] <Daiz|> L3top, the commands? I'm having the same problem as acerubuntu.
[12:18] <fidel_> productivity & mouse? ;)
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> wadechandler  i don't like/use Unity either
[12:18] <L3top> Daiz|: that was specific to his gpu. give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[12:19] <Marzata> !xfce
[12:19] <wadechandler> ubottu: I'm on 12.04 now
[12:19] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: should i restart my laptop now after installing driver which you gave ?
[12:19] <airdem> where do i have to copy this http://pastebin.com/3U8tvRr0 to get lang working?
[12:19] <myhero> L3top: this is another method to backup the files, please go through it...in the 3rd command after making the dir i m getting the fatal error...please resolve it - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=819396
[12:19] <L3top> !pastebinit | Daiz|
[12:19] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: yes
[12:19] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: okay
[12:19] <wadechandler> does work better on multi mon setup, but still MUCH less productive...if I could find the unity sources and find the devs to communicate with i'm sure I could help make it better
[12:20] <Marzata> !xfce | wadechandler
[12:20] <ThePendulum> Yesterday, I installed Ubuntu on a laptop. However, it boots and shows the purple screen for a short amount of time, before going black. If I boot in recovery mode, only half the screen is "usable" (lots of graphical artifacts). This last graphics mode was already present during installation, but I hoped it would fix itself after the installation. I've tried booting with nomodeset, but it didn't help.
[12:20] <Daiz|> That command doesn't even work L3top, I'm on lubuntu 11.10
[12:20] <L3top> so in recovery Daiz|, apt-get install pastebinit       then lspci -nn | grep VGA | pastebinit
[12:20] <myhero> Xubuntu Xfce is better or ubuntu Gnome ?
[12:20] <Darael> !best | myhero
[12:20] <Marzata> myhero: yes
[12:20] <L3top> Yes it does Daiz|. Check spelling.
[12:20] <airdem> where do i have to copy this http://pastebin.com/3U8tvRr0 to get lang working?
[12:20] <fidel_> myhero: different
[12:21] <wadechandler> Marzata: would use xfce, but right now there are things which hinder me such as QT/KDE applications don't blend in well. At least they didn't when I tried a few months back.
[12:21] <ThePendulum> myhero: None of them is 'better', is a matter of preference or performance requirements on older systems
[12:21] <z3bra> Does anyone have a great expenrience (or just managed to...) with changing metacity to another WM on 12.04 ?
[12:21] <ThePendulum> myhero: *it is
[12:21] <Daiz|> L3top, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:a011]
[12:21] <Darael> !anyone | z3bra
[12:22] <Marzata> myhero: on the top of this, Xubuntu is much more stylish.
[12:22] <L3top> yes Daiz| same exact line.
[12:22] <L3top> Daiz|:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel i965-va-driver libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[12:22] <Daiz|> Thanks. will try that when I get home.
[12:22] <myhero> marzata: ok thnx 4 advice...i'll try xubuntu 2
[12:22] <ThePendulum> myhero: I'd say, try both. I've tried Xubuntu while Unity was still a bit shitty (sorry). As of 12.04 , I switched back to Ubuntu. I've had similar great experiences with both Gnome in 12.04 (or Gnome 2 in the past) and the latest Xfce.
[12:23] <z3bra> Darael: *In order to tell me which WM, if integration is good, if it was hard to manage, etc
[12:23] <L3top> Daiz|: wait... that isnt correct
[12:23] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: it doesnt work, my laptop still blank, i should change it to nomodeset to see my latop
[12:24] <Daiz|> :(
[12:24] <ThePendulum> Anyone on my laptop issue?
[12:24] <Dr_willis> z3bra,  what wm are you wanting to us4e exactly?
[12:24] <L3top> Daiz|: I forgot that you are on 11.10...  that is the target version yes?
[12:24] <Darael> z3bra: I gathered, but still.  Better to just ask that - eg "I'm looking for advice on replacing metacity on 12.04 - what should I replace with, and how easy is it?".  It's amazing how much faster the answers roll in.
[12:24] <Daiz|> L3top, the line is correct, as I will boot up with 12.04LTS in recovery.
[12:24] <wadechandler> ThePendulum: could you repost? hard to find it in the stream
[12:24] <Gnea> ThePendulum: what issue?
[12:24] <myhero> ThePendulum: thnx for advice....
[12:24] <Daiz|> or am i wrong?
[12:25] <Marzata> myhero: we migrated to Xubuntu last October, and we must say it is better then the old Ubuntu + Gnome2.
[12:25] <z3bra> Dr_willis: my first choice go to openbox or ratpoison
[12:25] <ThePendulum> wadechandler, Gnea: Yesterday, I installed Ubuntu on a laptop. However, it boots and shows the purple screen for a short amount of time, before going black. If I boot in recovery mode, only half the screen is "usable" (lots of graphical artifacts). This last graphics mode was already present during installation, but I hoped it would fix itself after the installation. I've tried booting with nomodeset, but it didn't help.
[12:25] <Dr_willis> z3bra,  if you install the openbox package it used to add a entry for 'openbox gnome' in the login screen menus.. not sure if it still does.
[12:25] <moz_> hi, simple-scan starts only if launched by root. Otherwise I get a segmentation fault (core dump) error. Any hint?
[12:26] <Dr_willis> z3bra,  you could always make your own custome session, or use the 'openbox' session it creates
[12:26] <z3bra> I know they are completely opposed, but I like them a lot as standalone =) And I'd like to know if they can have a great integration with unity or gnome-shell
[12:26] <z3bra> Dr_willis: I know, But I don't want to use them as standalone WM
[12:26] <acer-ubuntu> l3top: i am back now, and my laptop still blank if i dont use nomodeset, is there any way to view my laptop such as regular?
[12:26] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: That is perplexing. I will have to check a couple of things
[12:26] <L3top> one moment
[12:27] <Darael> z3bra: gnome-shell pretty much /is/ a window manager, so no help there.  Unity is rather too tightly tied to compiz-and-metacity, at a guess.
[12:27] <wadechandler> ThePendulum: I would look in /var/log/X*.log and see if anything jumps out. Usually will see messages with (EE) for error.
[12:27] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: what is perplexing?
[12:27] <L3top> That you are having gpu issues with compiz with those drivers in place acer-ubuntu.
[12:28] <z3bra> Darael: So no possibility of evolution/customization of unity or gnome-shell in that way...? :/
[12:28] <acer-ubuntu> L3top; i hope u get the answer soon :)
[12:28] <wielkifreeman> hello, Can I install Unity on kubuntu 12.04
[12:28] <wielkifreeman> ?
[12:28] <wadechandler> ThePendulum: might help you track down something specific. Too, lspci and get your card. Then, do some googling to see if anyone else has the same issue with that specific card and 12.04. Usually how i find those type issues. Sometimes I take my X config file down to a minimum to get something that will load and then tweak it slowly on systems which have issues like that. Sometimes it will be one little thing that breaks it.
[12:28] <Darael> z3bra: Not AIUI.
[12:28] <ThePendulum> wadechandler: Let me try that
[12:28] <z3bra> AIUI ?
[12:28] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: lets try creating an xorg.conf
[12:29] <Dr_willis> z3bra,  unity is a compiz plugin.. and compiz is a window manager.. now unity-2d perhaps...
[12:29] <Darael> wielkifreeman: That's pretty much equivalent to running KDE apps on Ubuntu 12.04, so I don't see why not.
[12:29] <ThePendulum> wadechandler: If I only knew what graphics card this thing uses
[12:29] <Darael> z3bra: As I Understand It.
[12:29] <jthing> wielkifreeman, don't choose one or the other two windowmanagers isbegging for trouble
[12:29] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: how then?
[12:29] <z3bra> Dr_willis: Oh yes true, I had forgotten it ^^
[12:29] <Gallomimia> oh my. why does my system tell me it might be in an unstable state?
[12:29] <Darael> Dr_willis: Considering z3bra mentioned replacing metacity, I assumed unity-2d from the start.
[12:29] <moz_> hi, simple-scan starts only if launched by root. Otherwise I get a segmentation fault (core dump) error. Any hint?
[12:29] <wadechandler> ThePendulum: just run lspci and you can find it.
[12:29] <wadechandler> from a terminal
[12:30] <Gallomimia> i'm desperately spamming apt-get update dist-upgrade and things are happening. no idea if i'll be able to boot this system again
[12:30] <Dr_willis> I thought unity-2d used mutter.. or was that gnome-shell... i get so confused
[12:30] <KM0201> jthing: how is that? (asking for trouble)
[12:30] <z3bra> gnome-shell use mutter
[12:30] <Darael> Dr_willis: Pretty sure that's gnome-shell.
[12:30] <jthing> wielkifreeman, In particular the 3D thin in unity is a issue. Maybe the 2D is less troblesome
[12:30] <z3bra> OH YEAH !!!
[12:30] <z3bra> Update finished !
[12:30] <z3bra> Let reboot then ^^
[12:30] <Dr_willis> we seem to be getting away from the 'window manager' vs 'file manager/desktop icon manager' type seperation we had in years past.
[12:31] <wielkifreeman> Dareal, jting I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/127698/how-can-i-install-unity-in-kubuntu-12-04 and I would ask expert before install unity
[12:31] <ThePendulum> wadechandler: It only returns the vendor, which is Intel it says (which I find strange)
[12:31] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: You will either need to stop lightdm or boot to a recovery console and type: Xorg -configure       this will dump a file called xorg.conf.new in /home/username I believe... you will then cp /home/username/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:31] <Gallomimia> if i see this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/798462 can I run some commands to be reasonably sure it got fixed?
[12:32] <myhero> thnx marzata and thependulum...
[12:32] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: how to boot to a recovery console?
[12:32] <ThePendulum> myhero: np
[12:33] <myhero> thependulum: what about kubuntu ?
[12:33] <IdleOne> Gallomimia: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade - That should update the package unless it has already been updated on your system.
[12:33] <Marsjanin> Hello guys. WTF with flashplugin?
[12:33] <KM0201> Marsjanin: what about it? works fine here
[12:33] <Darael> wielkifreeman: the tab key will autocomplete a nick, helping thee to spell my name (it's a before e) and enabling my client to get my attention because my name came up.  I nearly missed that!
[12:33] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: you can hold space during boot... then select it... I believe that will dump you in as root though, so it will create the xorg.conf.new in /root
[12:33] <vitor-br> My unity does not load at login? someone has this problem?
[12:34] <Gallomimia> IdleOne: it tells me something failed while running do-release-upgrade. did i get everything fixed?
[12:34] <ThePendulum> myhero: Same story, you have to try it to see if you like it. I'm more fond of Xubuntu myself, but I know a lot of people like Kubuntu of Xubuntu. The best way is always to go out there and see for yourself.
[12:34] <Dr_willis> vitor-br,  what does it do exactly?
[12:34] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: or you can type sudo service lightdm stop and it should kill X.
[12:34] <ThePendulum> myhero: It's all just Ubuntu wearing a jacket in a certain colour
[12:34] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: okay, i will restart my laptop now, and hit space bar when booting
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> myhero  ubuntu classic looks much like gnome2
[12:35] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: are you on the machine in here that you are trying to fix?
[12:35] <ThePendulum> myhero: If you want the Gnome 2 look, I
[12:35] <vitor-br> Dr_willis the unity does not load when I login .. need to run "Unity - replace" to appear ..
[12:35] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: yes
[12:35] <jthing> So oddly does the #D version
[12:35] <L3top> Ok... see you in a few
[12:35] <Darael> wielkifreeman: Sounds like the questioner encountered a dependency bug.
[12:35] <myhero> thependulum: ok thnx...jacket thing is very gud to make something understand better...made me clear about concept of xubuntu kubuntu n ubuntu
[12:35] <ThePendulum> myhero: 've had the best experience with Xubuntu and 30 minutes of modification
[12:35] <sambagirl> morning i am running 1010 and i installed lamp and i also installed a no-ip type thingy. it starts up on boot. how do i disable it so i can start it independently? where is the startup apps located
[12:36] <sambagirl> opps wrong channel sorry
[12:36] <IdleOne> Gallomimia: I got to run but paste the error to paste.ubuntu.com and see if someone else here can give you a hand.
[12:36] <sambagirl>  morning i am running 1010 and i installed lamp and i also installed a no-ip type thingy. it starts up on boot. how do i disable it so i can start it independently? where is the startup apps located
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> sambagirl  10.10 is eol
[12:36] <ThePendulum> sambagirl: Wrong channel, again :P
[12:36] <jthing> After many misguided attempts, I will not try to customize the default behaviour this time. The last two times ubuntu 3D failed within 2 days and never worked again
[12:36] <Gallomimia> it gave me this launchpad bug report: https://launchpad.net/bugs/798462
[12:36] <IdleOne> Gallomimia: make sure to give us the url of the paste when done :)
[12:36] <sambagirl> i am asking a question has nothing to do with eol or doa
[12:36] <sambagirl> or lsd or pcp or thc
[12:36] <Gallomimia> o0
[12:37] <L3top> sambagirl: you should look at /etc/init.d  if it is there you can update-rc.d -f remove <script>
[12:37] <sambagirl> i just need to know where the startup stuff is
[12:37] <myhero> thependulum: yea u were telling about 30 mins of modification
[12:37] <IdleOne> sambagirl: 10.10 is no longer supported.
[12:37] <Marsjanin> KM0201: About a week before upgrading to 12.04, having 11.10, there appeared update of Flash. After installing that, there was black or white screen instead of .swf content. No flash games, no youtube movies. I tried installing APT from Adobe site, I tried to install again the flashplugin-installer, it downloads and installs, but didn't work. I'm using Firefox. There was another update of...
[12:37] <Marsjanin> ...flash before system upgrade, and I think another during system upgraade. Both changes nothing.
[12:37] <freewayzify> helo pals
[12:37] <wielkifreeman> Darael, thank, You think that I can install unity and 3d unity will work, I try
[12:37] <ThePendulum> myhero: If you install TeamViewer or something, I am happy to customize Xfce for you so it looks Gnome 2-ish
[12:38] <Marsjanin> KM0201: All that greping commands shows it is flash installed.
[12:38] <myhero> thependulum: ok i'll do it....but can we private chat for some time ?
[12:38] <Darael> sambagirl: We can't really help unless we know what the "no-ip type thingy" was.  I'm not even sure what /type/ of thing that's meant to be.  Additionally, 10.10 is EOL and thou /art/ more likely to get support if using a currently-supported version, so I recommend upgrading.
[12:38] <sambagirl> it's a dynip type thing Darael
[12:38] <KM0201> Marsjanin: what version of ubuntu are you using?... 11.10, or 12.04?
[12:38] <sambagirl> it provides static ip for dynamic ips
[12:38] <sambagirl> it was a test
[12:39] <sambagirl> nevermibnd i found the place
[12:39] <myhero> thependulum: ?????
[12:39] <sambagirl> thanks
[12:39] <ThePendulum> myhero: Yes?
[12:39] <blurp> I just upgraded to 12.04 and it screwed up my jack connections menu.
[12:39] <blurp> was using ubuntu studio.
[12:39] <gaelfx> my two-finger scrolling is working in other applications, but not in nautilus, any ideas why that might be?
[12:39] <Gallomimia> richardn online?
[12:40] <Marsjanin> KM0201: Now 12.04, but that started before upgrade and upgrade didn't fix that.
[12:40] <blurp> now my boot screen is for lxde instead of ubuntu studio for some reason, and sometimes it's ubuntu's screen.
[12:40] <myhero> thependulum: check my pvt msg
[12:40] <Darael> gaelfx: In my thoroughly amateur opinion, that sounds like a bug.
[12:41] <Darael> !pm | myhero
[12:41] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: i have tried to hit space bar when booting, and it beep so loud
[12:41] <KM0201> Marsjanin: try this... go to adobe.com, click downloads, click get flash player, and where it says "Select version to download" choose ".tar.gz for Linux" and download it.
[12:41] <L3top> sambagirl: was the place /etc/init.d ?   because you will want to properly remove it from the runlevels using the format I gave you.
[12:42] <BitPuffin> Well this is very annoying
[12:42] <Marsjanin> KM0201: and? Unpack it where?
[12:42] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: and?
[12:42] <KM0201> Marsjanin: just for now, unpack it where it is.
[12:42] <KM0201> there's only two files in there
[12:42] <steveccc> i am looking for a graphics app to draw website sitemaps where objects (circles) have connectors (legs) which move around and automatically space themselves out etc. Similar to visio on windows. Can anyone recommend anything
[12:43] <katuelone> why channel ubuntu in spanish ????
[12:43] <BitPuffin> I rely on xvidcap for work because it is the only screencaster I know that records to AVI.. And it's removed from the repo and doesn't compile from source. What a bummer
[12:43] <Marsjanin> KM0201: I'll try
[12:43] <myhero> i dont usually do pm but regarding guidelines sometimes so that it doesn't affects others
[12:43] <popey> BitPuffin: tried kazam
[12:43] <acer-ubuntu> l3top: and it failed, i still cant see my screen in splash screen, i have to use nomodeset always
[12:43] <magnus> Hi, I have a 11.10 install, via wubi. I would like to upgrade to 12, but would like to make a backup first. Whats the best way to do a backup, when installed via wubi?
[12:43] <popey> BitPuffin: we removed xvidcap because it was dead developmentally, kazam is very active
[12:43] <KM0201> Marsjanin: after its unpacked... there's a file, "libflashplayer.so" right click it, and choose copy.  then go to /home/username   click View/Show Hidden Files and directory
[12:44] <L3top> !calligraflow | steveccc
[12:44] <BitPuffin> popey, it only saves to webM and h.264 though. None of them can be opened in Vegas 10. And unfortunately lightworks isn't here yet so I have to use it
[12:44] <popey> BitPuffin: you can easily convert them with ffmpeg
[12:44] <L3top> steveccc: check out calligraflow
[12:44] <Darael> steveccc: kivio or dia.
[12:44] <popey> BitPuffin: or use a GUI tool like winff
[12:45] <Darael> steveccc: For future reference, http://osalt.com can be really useful!
[12:45] <steveccc> thanks all - will have a look at them now
[12:45] <BitPuffin> popey, doesn't that result in a big quality loss?
[12:45] <popey> BitPuffin: no
[12:45] <popey> BitPuffin:  you can specify options which keep quality
[12:45] <Marsjanin> KM0201: what for the .so in my home?
[12:45] <popey> BitPuffin: also, very latest unstable kazam has avi recording ☺
[12:45] <popey> BitPuffin: also, latest kazam has lossless (raw) recording too
[12:45] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: What failed? You created the xorg.conf and copied it to the /etc/X11 dir?
[12:45] <KM0201> Marsjanin: once you've got your hidden files/folders in view, navigate to /home/username/.mozilla   and inside .mozilla, create a folder called "plugins"  open plugins, and paste the libflashplayer.so file inside there.
[12:45] <popey> BitPuffin: drop by #kazam sometime ☺
[12:45] <BitPuffin> popey, but on the launchpad site it says that unstable is currently broken?
[12:46] <KM0201> Marsjanin: after that, close all instances of firefox running, and restart the browser.
[12:46] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: not yet
[12:46] <popey> BitPuffin: where?
[12:46] <acer-ubuntu> L3top; oh i so confused
[12:46] <popey> BitPuffin: https://launchpad.net/kazam
[12:46] <L3top>  You don't need graphics for recovery terminal... its just a terminal.
[12:46] <Marsjanin> KM0201: OK... Funny workaround, Fx says it see and running the "system" flash now.
[12:46] <popey> BitPuffin: just "bzr branch lp:kazam" then "cd kazam/bin" then "./kazam" ☺
[12:47] <BitPuffin> popey, "Please note that Unstable PPA is broken at the moment and will be broken for some time until I refactor some of the source code. ETA unknown. :)"
[12:47] <KM0201> Marsjanin: well, is flash working?
[12:47] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: just open console and sudo service lightdm stop
[12:47] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: i thought ubuntu is easier than windows
[12:47] <BitPuffin> popey, oh nice. Thank you incredibly much!
[12:47] <popey> BitPuffin: i think that might be outdated
[12:47] <popey> BitPuffin: i use the unstable branch here
[12:47] <popey> BitPuffin: thanks for spotting that, will let the dev know
[12:47] <Marsjanin> KM0201: BRB - have to plug in modem into computer that runs Ubuntu. :)
[12:47] <BitPuffin> popey, So I can just add the ppa then?
[12:47] <popey> yes BitPuffin
[12:48] <Darael> L3top: Lightdm is an Upstart job, so to be picky, that ought to be "sudo stop lightdm", although thy version should also work.
[12:48] <BitPuffin> Okay cheers, you just saved my day popey!
[12:49] <BitPuffin> I love kazam but it hasn't saved to the right formats until now!
[12:49] <DylanJV> can someone please help me i am trying to install ubuntu on windows but i want ubuntu to be run aside windows
[12:49] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: easier is a relative term. If you are used to windows methodology, you may not find it easier, it is certainly more robust and secure... but you are grabbing a 3 day old release without all the bugs worked out. Sometimes windows releases dont work on hardware they should either... see Vista.
[12:49] <L3top> thank you for the correction Darael... you are, of course, correct.
[12:49] <blurp> .. dylan.. go download a virtual machine like MobaLiveCD and use it to emulate an iso in windows.
[12:49] <popey> BitPuffin: yay. drop by #kazam for help, bigwhale is the developer
[12:49] <BitPuffin> popey, Strange. Don't see any .avi ?
[12:49] <blurp> It will actuall emulate any iso, not just live ones.
[12:50] <z3bra> Mmmh first issue with the pangolin ! ^^ My conky dont display the date with ${execi 3600 date +%A %e}
[12:50] <DylanJV> i already have daemon tools which can create a virtual disk already
[12:50] <blurp> I'm actually running vector 6.0 light in a virtual maching right now, but usng xchat from windows.
[12:50] <blurp> works great.
[12:51] <L3top> DylanJV: You are trying to install ubuntu in a vm inside of windows? Or you want to dual boot to either windows or ubuntu?
[12:51] <Daghdha> Hello. After upgrading from 10.04-> 11.. -> 12.04 this weekend i seem to have lost my Transmission client. It was in the start menu.
[12:51] <Darael> DylanJV: Couldst thou be a little more specific?  By "run alongside windows", what exactly dost mean?
[12:51] <Daghdha> I see 6 transmission-xxxxxxx executables on the commandline but i have no idea wich one it is, does anyone know wich one the client is?
[12:51] <myhero> now that ubuntu 12.04 is out what about xubuntu and kubuntu ?
[12:52] <Daghdha> ihave: -cli -create -edit -gtk -remote and -show
[12:52] <blurp> I believeth he means to host it, but he couldst meanteth to bual booteth.
[12:52] <KM0201> myhero: sometimes they run a few days behind (sometimes)
[12:52] <DylanJV> i want windows as my main OS but i want ubuntu too but i would like ubuntu to run while i still have windows
[12:52] <Darael> Daghdha: It's transmission-gtk - but why not upgrade directly?  LTS->LTS upgrades are supposed to be possible in one step.    The T-V distinction is silly.
[12:53] <Daghdha> thank you L3top
[12:53] <Daghdha> Still have to get used to that
[12:53]  * Marsjanin back, installing flash
[12:53] <KM0201> Marsjanin: did that not work?
[12:53] <L3top> Darael: until there is a point release it is not available without adding the -d switch in terminal... is probably why
[12:53] <FishFace> Wacom tablet not detected. 12.04. Blue light is one. CTL470 model. Ideas?
[12:53] <Marsjanin> KM0201: wait a moment
[12:54] <Darael> L3top: So /that/'s why I had to add -d.  Interesting.  Did not know that.
[12:54] <steveccc> why did ubuntu move to libreoffice - is openoffice dying or is it purely because of Oracles involvement in openoffice?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> steveccc  because it is no longer free as in free speech
[12:54] <L3top> LTS strives for maximum stability, until they get a big bug fix out there, it is not directly available.
[12:55] <blurp> What other good linux rooms are there on this server?
[12:55] <Darael> steveccc: Oracle said, at least at one point, that they were ceasing development of OO.o.  I believe that was a factor.
[12:55] <steveccc> monkeydust: are they equivalent in terms of functions or does libreoffice have to 'catchup'
[12:55] <Darael> blurp: Define "good".  Also consider asking in -offtopic, where people are more amenable to chat.
[12:56] <shaneo> anyone else having issues re-installung previously purchased software from ubuntu software center? Im trying to re-download uplink but get a 401 error when installing
[12:56] <owner512> hello, i cant update my system, because it isnt the latest version. If i dont update my system, i get secruit problems?
[12:56] <xskydevilx> Is it possible to unmap the HUD feature from Alt?
[12:56] <shaneo> owner512, you will still get security updates unless your on 10.10
[12:56] <Darael> owner512: Which release art thou running?
[12:56] <blurp> is -offtopic a room?  like #offtopic?  and by good, I mean one that I can go into, see more than one active person, and be able to speak with an unreg'd nick
[12:57] <Darael> blurp: No.  I'm referring to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[12:57] <blurp> ahh, never heard of it.
[12:57] <blurp> I'm new to freenode.
[12:57] <blurp> but and old-school irc nerd.
[12:57] <owner512> thx guys
[12:57] <blurp> I'll check it out.
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> steveccc  don't know, i dont use it extensively
[12:57] <jthing> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_404
[12:58] <mardraum> blurp: old school would call it correctly a "channel"
[12:59] <jthing> blurb there is a ubuntu-offtopic
[12:59] <blurp> well, it depends on what context I'm talking about them.  Sometiems I say chan.
[12:59] <L3top> mardraum: ooooooold school (aol compuserve) would call it a room
[12:59] <blurp> jthing.. I'm there.. thanks.
[12:59] <MaskilPDX> I am hoping someone could help
[13:00] <Darael> !ask | MaskilPDX
[13:00] <mardraum> L3top: he said IRC
[13:00] <MaskilPDX> Where is the log of all commands typed in terminal?
[13:00] <ikonia> MaskilPDX: "history"
[13:00] <fidel_> MaskilPDX: history
[13:00] <L3top> mardraum: you are correct. I am not.
[13:00] <Kriss3d> MaskilPDX history but there is no actal log
[13:00] <Darael> MaskilPDX: run "history", or look at ~/.bash_history.
[13:00] <MaskilPDX> Thank you!
[13:00] <Darael> Kriss3d: What's ~/.bash_history, then?
[13:00] <ikonia> Kriss3d: apart from .bash_history
[13:01] <Marsjanin> KM0201: where should be that plugin folder? ~/.mozilla/firefox...where?
[13:01] <Kriss3d> Isnt that  just the past few lines youve written ? Never looked at it though
[13:01] <ikonia> history of your current shell
[13:01] <KM0201> Marsjanin: create the folder in /home/username/.mozilla   (not under /.mozilla/firefox)
[13:01] <Kriss3d> k
[13:02] <Marsjanin> KM0201: come on, and what ~ means?
[13:02] <skulltip> when i do an install of 12.04, halfway through the screen goes into zig zags and is unreadable. when i try it out, unity makes it unusable.. like screen buffers not being updated correctly. i have onboard video and a six year old pc
[13:02] <Darael> MaskilPDX: For reference, running "history" is more portable across shells - for example, I use zsh, so my log is in ~/.zhistory instead.
[13:02] <KM0201> Marsjanin: huh?
[13:02] <skulltip> it makes it really hard to keep my mom in ubuntu
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Marsjanin   ~ means /home/your_user
[13:02] <Marsjanin> ~ goes /home/user/
[13:02] <Marsjanin> Righr
[13:03] <KM0201> Marsjanin: well if you're so smart, why are you here askijhnjg for help on a really simple issue?
[13:03] <L3top> Kriss3d: type history.  history | grep "pattern" is particularly helpful when doing oddball svn etc.
[13:03] <Marsjanin> Argh
[13:03] <Kriss3d> ok ty
[13:03] <Darael> Marsjanin: Strictly speaking it doesn't always, but for the purposes of real users on Ubuntu when the sysadmin hasn't done certain unusual things, ~ is, indeed, /home/$USER
[13:03] <Marsjanin> KM0201: Because im my opinion devs broke something, that worked good.
[13:04] <KM0201> Marsjanin: in my opinion you have no idea what you're talking about
[13:04] <Marsjanin> OK, calm...
[13:04] <mn_> Hi guys! :D I was just upgrading to 12.04 and the install botched. It had been sitting at the same spot for about two days so I unplugged it and let it run out of battery. Now, the system won't work. I have a liveCD to use to help fix it, but I have NO IDEA what to do or even where to start. Would someone PLEASE help me?
[13:05] <jthing> mn_: failed how?
[13:05] <kx> mn_: welcome to the ubuntu experience. get used to it. if you dont know where to start, trust me, the process will be a nightmare for you. youre probably better of clean installing
[13:05] <mn_> jthing: it hung during the install so I let it run out of battery. So I guess I would say it lost power while upgrading
[13:05] <Marsjanin> KM0201: So OK, i open the folder /home/my/.mozilla, there are folders firefox and extensions.
[13:05] <ud3770> hello i want restore grub how can i do it?
[13:06] <beeju> how to configure splash screen on 12.04?
[13:06] <Darael> mn_: That wasn't the best of moves.  We'll try to help, of course, but for future reference there's almost always some way to get a responding system back.  Now then, one option is to boot the live cd, mount the filesystem from the host, and chroot to it.  I can walk thee through that.
[13:06] <KM0201> Marsjanin: listening is not  y our strong point, i have explained this 3x... inside .mozilla, create a folder called plugins, and paste the libflashplayer.so , inside there.
[13:06] <mn_> kx: I can't clean install. I'm pretty technically proficient. I know this is how it can be from time to time, but that's fine with me. Do you have any constructive suggestions?
[13:06] <Daiz|> Is there anyway to turn on wi-fi in recovery console?
[13:07] <Vessel> Hello.
[13:07] <jthing> mn_what kx sais is true. The clean verion installs with no problems. Upgrading is always a nightmare. And 1204 has LTS Long Term Support so it is more stable and is supported for 3 years
[13:07] <mn_> Darael: Yes, please. I tried to chroot, but that didn't work. I would love for you to walk me through it please
[13:07] <Darael> Daiz|: Assuming the choice of "netroot" rather than "root", it's a case of looking up the wifi management commands (I'm afraid I don't remember them offhand).
[13:07] <Vessel> Well..
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> mn_  did you try do-release-upgrade?
[13:07] <Marsjanin> KM0201: sorry for that, I could not notice while going from one computer to another. I'll create and have to go due Firefox restart.
[13:07] <ud3770> How can i restore grub?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> !grub| ud3770
[13:07] <dschuett> why can't i arrange icons in the unity launcher on 12.04? - when i try to drag an icon it moves the entire set of icons. - running in virtual box
[13:07] <mn_> MonkeyDust: No, I haven't heard of that. Would you please briefly explain?
[13:08] <Darael> mn_: First things first, the chroot will only be useful if the liveCD is the same architecture (32- or 64-bit) as the system to be rescued.
[13:08] <kx> mn_: that was the most constructive suggeston you'll get. starting off with admitting you dont know where to start, i did you a favor. if you want to go through the process, boot to livecd, chroot into your old installation and use dpkg-reconfigure -a, apt-get -f install and dpkg -i to get your half installation attempted to work. when that fails (and it will) do the clean install
[13:08] <Vessel> Anyone knows any kind of explanation of why the H*** the LiveCD donesnt load if i set the AHCI mode ON ( in Bios) Grub shows, but an error about "you need to load the kernel first" is shown also.
[13:08] <Night_Elf> Hi all. I have installed ubunty server in a system. As soon as the most basic installation was done, now I connect to it using ssh. I intend to use it as a host for virtual machines using kvm. Yet some message is displayed complaning about a framebuffer device (/dev/fb0). What does that mean ?
[13:08] <L3top> mn_: I have seen several installs hang on the flashplugin install. Did your attempt to chroot result in a chroot: cannot run command `/bin/ bash': Exec format error?
[13:08] <Dr_willis> dschuett,  click and hold for a moment, then you can rearange
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> mn_  it's like apt-get blah, in a terminal, type do-release-upgrade, you'll have to confirm two or three questions
[13:08] <mn_> L3top yes
[13:08] <Darael> mn_: do-release-upgrade is the way one launches the release upgrader from the command line.
[13:09] <skulltip> i guess no developers try to install it on older computers with onboard video
[13:09] <Darael> kx: That is not a helpful attitude.  Besides, it's not true that chrooting and doing the various package-fixes will definitely fail.
[13:09] <jthing> mn_what machine are you talking from
[13:10] <mn_> I'm talking from a different machine.
[13:10] <L3top> mn very odd.  My lappy is the one with the problem. I am on a livecd on it right now
[13:10] <ud3770> MonkeyDust:i don't know which one is my linux partition can you help me?
[13:11] <gaelfx> my two-finger scrolling is working in other applications, but not in nautilus, any ideas why that might be?
[13:11] <L3top> mn_: make sure that you have umount /dev/sda1   first (or whatever your drive/part is)
[13:11] <jin24> so guys since updating to 2.6.32-41-generic on lucid im having problems with my external harddrive, i store music on it and whenever i listen to it for some time it stops and exaile and parts of the gnome ui freeze. here is the syslog of it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/957439/  so can somebody tell me what this means ? :)
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> ud3770  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l -- if you're not sure, use pastebin to show it to the channel
[13:11] <Night_Elf> mn_: So you're wanting to chroot to a system by using a liveCD into it, and you can't? Check that both the system in the disk (where you want to chroot to) and the liveCD are both the same kernel, in the sense that either both 33bit, either both 64bit.
[13:11] <mn_> One moment. How do I check the architecture of the OS I am currently running. I wanna make sure this live OS is the same arch as the botched system
[13:11] <varikonniemi> hello, i just installed an 12.04 server, and tried to add virtualbox guest additions
[13:12] <Night_Elf> 32bit*
[13:12] <varikonniemi> when i mount the image i get a foledr in /dev/cdrom/
[13:12] <gaelfx> mn_: uname -a
[13:12] <varikonniemi> that is empty
[13:12] <kx> Darael: it's absolutely a helpful attitude. more people should approach ubuntu problems this way. it will actualyl save many wasted hours, a terrible attitude toward the ubuntu upgrade process (though it's deserved) etc. he's asking for step by step instructions to even do a chroot. this will fail for sure especially since glibc was updated and installs improperly and upgrades that finish even properly to 12.04
[13:12] <L3top> Night_Elf: this is the 4th instance of this exact circumstance I have seen for 1204 in the last 3 days.
[13:12] <Darael> mn_: do a "uname -a" and look for "amd64" or "i686".
[13:12] <minimec> gaelfx: I cannot confirm your problem. Two finger scrolling is working for me in nautilus. Maybe you find something in the nautilus settings. Otherwise try to remove/rename the .config/nautilus folder once .
[13:12] <nishttal2> hi has anyone been able to setup multiple monitors (more than 2) on 12.04
[13:12] <Vessel> Hello, Anyone knowswhy the LiveCD does not load with AHCI mode ON? Grub is shown, but the options on the menu gives me errors like " you need to load the kernel first" No info on google, nor askubuntu :(
[13:13] <kx> Darael: *installs improperly even from upgrades that finished properly to 12.04
[13:13] <L3top> Night_Elf Darael all have been using the live dvd that they installed from.
[13:13] <nishttal2> i had a perfectly functional setup at 10.10 and now i only have 1 monitor.. the other 2 are whiteout
[13:13] <Night_Elf> L3top: I have seen it with 10.4 too. A friend had installed a 64 bit system. When we tried to LiveCD in it and then do a chroot, we could not do that.
[13:13] <Marsjanin> The Flash still don't work, I even tried to precise, what program Fx have to use to open it.
[13:13] <Darael> L3top: What?
[13:13] <gaelfx> minimec: it was working, but it just suddenly stopped, I'll try killing it and restarting
[13:13] <mn_> Damn. Okay. This is 32-bit and my botched OS is 64-bit. I'll be back in a bit when I have a 64-bit liveCD up and running an instance on my lappy. I'll stay in channel while I'm doing that. I just won't be active unless someone says something to me with my name for alert.
[13:14] <Night_Elf> L3top: Not for flamebaiting... but for things like these is the reason that my servers are Debian .
[13:14] <ud3770> MonkeyDust: 	http://pastebin.ca/2142216
[13:14] <L3top> Night_Elf: it is almost always a 32/64 bit problem when I see that error... however this hang on flashplugin then reboot and cant chroot has not been. In fact swapping to another drive assignment fixes it.
[13:14] <joseph_> Ok computer booting into a blank screen after nvidia driver installation, Can I get help please?
[13:14] <georgelappies> how does one clear the recent history in the HUD?
[13:15] <kx> joseph_: what version and from what repository
[13:15] <Darael> L3top: I'm talking to mn_ about using a chroot to fix a failed upgrade.  I don't see what the live DVD someone installed from has to do with that?
[13:15] <Your_Dog> hi is anyone here good or atleast knowledgable about bash scripting?
[13:15] <L3top> It is most certainly a bug. If mn_ comes back I will try and get some logs. I cannot reproduce it.
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> ud3770  NTFS is windows, you've got it two times
[13:15] <Darael> !anyone | Your_Dog
[13:15] <ThePendulum> Yesterday, I installed Ubuntu on a laptop. However, it boots and shows the purple screen for a short amount of time, before going black. If I boot in recovery mode, only half the screen is "usable" (lots of graphical artifacts). This last graphics mode was already present during installation, but I hoped it would fix itself after the installation. I've tried booting with nomodeset, but it didn't help. I have no idea what graphics card
[13:15] <Pici> Your_Dog: #bash would be the best place to ask.
[13:15] <mn_> Yo guys the architecture was wrong to chroot. That's what caused the problem I think.
[13:15] <Your_Dog> ok thanks Pici
[13:15] <Your_Dog> join #Bash
[13:15] <Your_Dog> oops
[13:15] <gaelfx> minimec: ok, I was wrong, it's not working in most things, just Skype and Chrome it seems to work (weird eh?)
[13:15] <joseph_> ok hold on, I'm not on that computer..
[13:16] <ud3770> MonkeyDust: no, first is windows partition and second is just a place to save files
[13:16] <Darael> mn_: Sounds likely, yes.  Don't forget to mount any extra filesystems once thou hast the chroot!
[13:16] <KM0201> ThePendulum: did you try removing "quiet splash" from the grub line, to see where it's hanging up.
[13:16] <Night_Elf> Darael: 32/64 bit differences. You boot from a 32 bit live cd and then you try to chroot where a 64 bit system is, this will fail. Your 32 bit livecd kernel will not function with nothing on the 64 bit chroot place, where the libs and everything else are compiled 64 bit.
[13:16] <Vessel> Hello, Anyone knows why the LiveCD does not load with AHCI mode ON? Grub is shown, but the options on the menu gives me errors like " you need to load the kernel first" No info on google, nor askubuntu :(
[13:16] <L3top> Darael: I was simply saying, that this, I believe, is a bug... as I have encountered it several times since 1204 release with other users, and that while normally I would agree that it is probably a 64/32 versioning issue, the reason I knew the error it gave is because I believe this to be a bug. That is all.
[13:16] <ThePendulum> KM0201: Removing it is interesting. What will I see/notice?
[13:16] <mn_> Darael: Why do I need to mount extra fss?
[13:16] <Marsjanin> KM0201: That did not the trick :( Even if pointing in FIrefox' options, what to use to open swf.
[13:16] <KM0201> ThePendulum: well, when it stops, that will presumably show you where it's failing.
[13:17] <sfears> ThePendulum: it may be a refresh rate issue, are you using an LCD monitor?
[13:17] <KM0201> Marsjanin: i dunno, you're pretty smart, you'll figure it out.
[13:17] <beeju> how to configure splash screen on 12.04
[13:17] <Darael> mn_: I refer to any that thou hast on other disks.  Most dont, but if thou /hast/ I wouldn't want thee to forget.
[13:17] <ThePendulum> KM0201: Ubuntu itself continues though, the screen just goes black (or half in Recovery mode). According to the sounds the laptop makes, Ubuntu is still running.
[13:17] <Darael> L3top: Ah, I see.
[13:17] <Darael> Night_Elf: I'm aware of that.  That's why I directed mn_ to check architecture.
[13:17] <joseph_> I posted it on linuxquestions.org but no one answered yet and I don't know how to get the information you asked for without having access to the other computer.
[13:17] <KM0201> ThePendulum: hmm
[13:17] <Marsjanin> KM0201: OK, man, OK... :/
[13:17] <kx> joseph_: is it nvidia
[13:17] <Night_Elf> I have installed ubunty server in a system. As soon as the most basic installation was done, now I connect to it using ssh. I intend to use it as a host for virtual machines using kvm. Yet some message is displayed complaning about a framebuffer device (/dev/fb0). What does that mean ?
[13:18] <gaelfx> Darael: did you just go medeival on someone?
[13:18] <sfears> i started having issues with the refresh rate since 11.10 ThePendulum, and i'm not sure how to set the refresh rate pre-kde
[13:18] <joseph_> yes
[13:18] <beeju> how to configure splash screen on 12.04
[13:18] <minimec> gaelfx: What are the mouse/touchpad settings in the ubuntu settings. Could you check if at least the 'edge scrolling' setting is working?
[13:18] <Darael> gaelfx: No.  I use singular second-person pronouns because the T-V distinction is silly, and also because I'm a Quaker.
[13:18] <sfears> do you have an alternate monitor you can try using to troubleshoot ThePendulum?
[13:18] <joseph_> I used "additional drivers" in Kubuntu 12.04 and now it won't go past the bios screen.
[13:18] <gaelfx> minimec: will do
[13:19] <ThePendulum> sfears: It was one of my final sollutions, I guess that's where I end up now. I doubt it's a refresh rate issue btw. I've seen too high refresh rates before, and it looks nothing like it.
[13:19] <sfears> joseph_: if you hold down the shift key at boot does it show the grub menu and can you boot into recovery mode?
[13:19] <kx> joseph_: downgrade to 295.33 driver. ubuntu routinely puts unstable and nonfunctional garbage in its repositories, and there is a known nvidia bug in its latest driver that causes this for much hardware, stitting in the 'stable' repository right now, so downgrading can help you a lot
[13:19] <ale`> hi, when my laptop (a thinkpad t61) resumes after sleep, the brightness controls don't work anymore. Any clue how to fix this?
[13:20] <joseph_> I didn't know about the shift key, I'll do that, thank you. newbie here obviously
[13:20] <gaelfx> minimec: edge-scrolling works on nothing, not even chrome or skype
[13:20] <sfears> if a different monitor displays corectly then i'd say refresh rate ThePendulum
[13:20] <L3top> mn_: Please unmount the drive, run fsck -f /dev/sda1 (or whatever your drive is... ) and see if that finds errors, repairs them, and suddenly chroot is available. I cannot reproduce this error.
[13:20] <ThePendulum> sfears: It's worth a try none the less, thanks for the suggestion
[13:21] <gaelfx> minimec: scratch that, it works on chrome and skype, but not others
[13:21] <mn_> No I already fsck'd it. It said it was clear
[13:21] <joseph_> holding shift key isn't working sfears
[13:21] <L3top> So weird...
[13:21] <L3top> ty mn_
[13:21] <Darael> L3top: We /did/ establish that the architectures were different.   I clearly missed that
[13:22] <L3top> So this is not that.
[13:22] <kx> see you guys in 8 hours when he just clean installs :)
[13:22] <kx> haha
[13:22] <minimec> gaelfx: ok. I don't know if I can really help you. You would have to figure out what kind of touchpad you are using and what driver. All I can say is, that synaptics based touchpads are working well, atleast on two machines I configured for 12.04.
[13:22] <joseph_> kx, I'll do that once I can get in. I need to login using fail safe but can't get it to the log in screen.
[13:22] <beeju> how to configure splash screen on 12.04
[13:22] <L3top> kx do you have a support related question, or are you just here to troll?
[13:23] <gaelfx> minimec: I think I probably just ought to give up and restart, see if that gets it
[13:23] <APoulos> hey folks, I could use some help with something
[13:23] <APoulos> I need a new email client
[13:23] <kx> L3top: neither, i am here helping resolve many of the ubuntu problems out there. do you have any particular help you need?
[13:23] <z3bra> Please, how can I access to the famous HUD ?
[13:23] <APoulos> Thunderbird is killing my system
[13:23] <joseph_> How do I boot to recovery mode in Kubuntu 12.04? please
[13:24] <APoulos> in fact, Thunderbird is consuming my system
[13:24] <kx> joseph_: so failsafe has the same screen blankness?
[13:24] <APoulos> Here's my computer stats and what I'm running at: http://i.imgur.com/LusPy.png
[13:24] <Darael> APoulos: There are a /lot/ of options.  Depends what thou'rt after.  If Thunderbird is too heavy, Evolution is right out, but there's still plenty of choices.  Have a browse of the software-center.
[13:24] <Tinti> joseph_: add 'single' to grub
[13:24] <joseph_> no it works fine, now I can't get to it for some reason
[13:24] <L3top> Obvious troll is obvious.
[13:24] <Darael> z3bra: Hit the super key ("windows key").
[13:24] <mn_> Alrighty, I'm installing Ubuntu 11.10 x86-64 to my 8 GB USB stick right now. So, I'll be ready to tackle this problem pretty quickly. :) Thank you guys for helping me out. It is VERY much appreciated!
[13:25] <APoulos> Darael: yeah, Im using Evolution but cant get it to work in the background
[13:25] <Darael> z3bra: Wait, sorry, that's the dash.  The HUD is on alt.
[13:25] <z3bra> Darael: oh ok
[13:25] <fusk> Hi, does anyone know of a bandwidth meter for the menu bar ?
[13:25] <z3bra> Yeah ! o/
[13:25] <z3bra> thx
[13:25] <kx> joseph_: try what tinti has said.. we dont know what "cant get to it" means exactly though
[13:26] <Tinti> joseph_: remove also the quiet and splash
[13:26] <APoulos> OH
[13:26] <APoulos> speaking of which
[13:26] <ThePendulum> An external monitor shows the same issue, so it's not a refresh rate issue
[13:26] <APoulos> joseph_: a good editor for GRUB menu - GRUB Customizer - it helps a lot
[13:27] <APoulos> Just throwing that out there
[13:29] <shadykhan> is there a way to remove chat/gwibber from the mail icon on the top right?
[13:29] <gaelfx> minimec: restart solved the issue. still wish I knew what exactly caused it though, do you know what I could look for in the logs? just synaptics?
[13:30] <Darael> shadykhan: Remove gwibber?  I think the package is gwibber-service.  Ditto for Empathy.  That might cause dependency problems with ubuntu-desktop, though.
[13:30] <nishtta2> hi when i go to Ubuntu recovery and drop to root prompt.. why is it giving me a READONLY file system?
[13:30] <joseph_> that would be a great advise, but I can't log in
[13:30] <minimec> gaelfx: Don't know really, as the touchpad is handled by the xserver. It would probably be some X error.
[13:30] <Salamander> Hello Im trying to insall a motorolla modem in my pentium II runing ubuntu server. The thing is that I need slamr driver, and here is the page to download it  " http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartlink/Ubuntu/ "  but I dont know what version tu use since my uname -r --> 3.2.0-23-generic-pae.
[13:30] <joseph_> can't boot
[13:30] <Dr_willis> nishtta2,  i belive the recovery menu has some 'remount as read write' option
[13:30] <Darael> joseph_: Is there an option before choosing to drop to root involving the word "mount"?  Choose that, first.
[13:31] <joseph_> now it boots from the cd saying.. select cd-rom boot type: wtHeck???
[13:31] <Darael> joseph_: Apologies.
[13:31] <gaelfx> minimec: yikes, that probably won't be so easy to find
[13:31] <Darael> nishtta2: See my previous remark accidentally addressed to joseph_.
[13:31] <nishtta2> Dr_willis, yeah.. but in previous version of ubuntu.. recovery was read/write by default
[13:31] <minimec> gaelfx: Exactly...
[13:31] <georgelappies> hi all, how can I get xchat to integrate into the messaging app on the top bar?
[13:31] <nishtta2> Darel i see
[13:31] <nishtta2> Dareal will try that.. thanks
[13:32] <Darael> georgelappies: If the developer hasn't written that functionality in, and there's no plugin, then thou'lt have to modify the source and submit a patch.
[13:32] <Darael> georgelappies: Or write a plugin, if XChat has those.
[13:32] <Tinti> to get rw rootfs
[13:32] <Tinti> mount -o remount,rw /
[13:32] <Darael> nishtta2: There /is/ another option, which is what Tinti just said.
[13:32] <gaelfx> note to self: dmesg | grep x is a baaaaad idea
[13:32] <nishtta2> Darael no there is no such option.. resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, fsck grub network root system-summary
[13:32] <Tinti> and after to commit your changes you should do mount -o remount,ro /
[13:33] <newbie> !list
[13:33] <Darael> Tinti: "Commit your changes"?  It's not a revision control system.
[13:34] <shadykhan> Darael, well is there a way to remove it from the mail menu on the top right?
[13:34] <fusk> Hi, does anyone know of a bandwidth meter for the menu bar ?
[13:34] <Darael> shadykhan: I seem to remember there being a way, but I'm afraid I don't remember what it is.
[13:34] <APoulos> How's Sylpheed as an alternative to Evolution and Thunderbird? anyone?
[13:35] <Darael> fusk: More recent versions of Ubuntu have a policy against putting purely-indicative things like that in the top menu.
[13:35] <Darael> !poll | APoulos
[13:35] <APoulos> Darael: can you just answer the question of your opinion
[13:35] <Salamander> What kernel version im I running if uname -r output is 3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[13:35] <skulltip> installing using the alternative text installer, what's a safe window manager that won't break the OS since the onboard video is nvidia?
[13:35] <APoulos> Darael: Im not talking a poll
[13:35] <APoulos> Im asking a question
[13:36] <minimec> gaelfx: dmesg |grep syna <-- check if you have a synaptics based touchpad
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> APoulos  no opinions here, this is the support channel
[13:36] <dresden> usb 3.0 kaput in 12.04?
[13:36] <robgraves> lol
[13:36] <acicula> Salamander: the window manager has nothing to do with the graphics driver inuse
[13:36] <Darael> APoulos: That's not what the channel is for.  And the point is that thou'rt asking for people's opinions.  That it's not in the form of a poll is not really the point, and that the factoid suggests it is is a flaw in the factoid.
[13:36] <fusk> Darael: okay, sounds a bit weird, but do you know what people use instead?
[13:36] <APoulos> Darael: christ... okay.. I get it
[13:37] <gaelfx> minimec: already tried, it just showed when it loaded the driver
[13:37] <Salamander> acicula, what do you mean?? Im not following you
[13:37] <Darael> fusk: I believe gkrellm is popular for monitoring stuff?  Not sure.
[13:37] <designbybeck> On ATI Video cards, new 12.04 64bit install... I have 2 options for the driver. One is normal then one is Post-Release Update
[13:37] <Darael> fusk: Could always draw it on the desktop with conky :)
[13:37] <acicula> Salamander: its the xorg subsystem that loads the graphics driver, the xorg system is used regardless of the windowmanager that you choose to use
[13:37] <designbybeck> nither one says recommended? Which should  I go with?
[13:38] <APoulos> !poll | designbybeck
[13:38] <fusk> Darael: ah, i see, yeah that might do the trick, like a widget of some sort.
[13:38] <Salamander> acicula, I see you are talking to skulltip
[13:38] <Darael> designbybeck: Do the descriptions give a hint?  My inclination would be to go for the post-release update.
[13:38] <Simon1245> Hey guys, I messed up ubuntu when upgrading it 2 days ago basically it was updating and I wanted to switch to Windows and cut the loading in the middle of it, next day I tried to get back on it and it didn't work so I did recovery mode and it fixed and now it says 12.04 but I'm not sure if it's fully updated, coul someone tell me how I can find out whether it's fully updated or not? Thanks :)
[13:38] <designbybeck> normally it has in the past with(recommended)
[13:39] <skulltip> ok.. how do i install 12.04 in an older pc with onboard nvidia, without it freezing up on me?
[13:39] <designbybeck> but I dont' see that this time Darael
[13:39] <acicula> Salamander: oh whoops my bad
[13:39] <Darael> fusk: The Compiz Widget Layer (is that still in Ubuntu?) can be nice for that; it puts the monitors and similar just a keypress away.
[13:39] <designbybeck> I'll give a try anyway! Thanks Darael
[13:39] <Darael> designbybeck: I'm not referring to the names, I mean the info in the box at the bottom, having highlighted one.
[13:40] <fusk> Darael: i'll give it a google search and see what comes up.
[13:40] <Salamander> skulltip, Im runing 12.04 server edition in a pentium II with asdkhfasd graphic card.
[13:40] <Simon1245> Hey guys, I messed up ubuntu when upgrading it 2 days ago basically it was updating and I wanted to switch to Windows and cut the loading in the middle of it, next day I tried to get back on it and it didn't work so I did recovery mode and it fixed and now it says 12.04 but I'm not sure if it's fully updated, could someone tell me how I can find out whether it's fully updated or not? Thanks :)
[13:40] <iceroot> Simon1245: please paste the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s" and "dpkg -l | grep -v ^rc | grep -v ^ii"
[13:40] <designbybeck> oh no Darael the text content on both is the same
[13:40] <iceroot> !paste | Simon1245
[13:40] <Darael> fusk: That's rarely a bad plan.  Good luck.
[13:40] <Caifas> Hello guys, I made a pressed file for my ubuntu instalation, and made it boot on usb, when the partition is starting it pop a msg saying about instalation medium, do you know a way to preseed this option or something that wont pop this msg up?
[13:40] <Simon1245> iceroot, Thanks I'll do it now :)
[13:40] <skulltip> ok installing server would be a way around that issue and still include a window manager?
[13:40] <Tinti> Darael: sorry it is true, it is just that once I have made changes in the fs and they were not applied unless I umount it manually. Since I cant umount it, remount it as readonly is enough
[13:40] <Darael> designbybeck: Ah.  How unhelpful.
[13:40] <skulltip> this is for a normal user, not a nerd or power user
[13:40] <designbybeck> that's what I was thinking Darael ;)
[13:40] <joseph_> ok guys, I need to get into recovery mode, I held down the shift key during boot, it only flashed and went back to blank screen. Anything else I can try? I also tried the cd, but only installation options are available.
[13:40] <Darael> Tinti: Running sync ought to do that?
[13:41] <skulltip> or  can i install from the default cd without using whatever nouveau or other driver is causing me grief
[13:42] <pratz> hey guys please help me out of this, I am being trying this for hour now, I just can not install u12.04
[13:42] <pratz> the installer gives me a error message
[13:42] <Darael> !elaborate | pratz
[13:42] <Darael> Hmm, maybe I'm a little to twitchy on the !elaborate.
[13:43] <pratz> installer says "Installer encounter Internal Error" that's it
[13:43] <Darael> Not to mention apparently incapable of grammar.
[13:43] <pratz> guys please any one ?
[13:43] <L3top> seemed an appropriate use to me Darael.
[13:44] <L3top> !patience | pratz
[13:44] <pratz> I just burned another iso image , still not working
[13:44] <Simon1245> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/957504/
[13:44] <kx> joseph_: presss escape over and over, you may have grub installed and set to hide menu till you press esc
[13:44] <pratz> pratz: i can successfully install debian on the same machine
[13:44] <nitzs> Simon1245: it's 12.04 alright.
[13:44] <johnm> kx: joseph_: and by esc, I think kx means hold down shift :)
[13:45] <joseph_> I just tried that kx and it did the same thing, only flashed and back to blank again. johnm I tried the shift as well, no go.
[13:45] <Darael> L3top: No, it wasn't.  I was referring to 'to' as opposed to "too".
[13:45] <Simon1245> nitzs, No misstakes at all? Also if you update it while being on it does it get you everything you would have if you downloaded it from a CD?
[13:45] <L3top> I meant of the factoid.
[13:45] <iceroot> Simon1245: seems fine so far but i dont get why the unity-scope..package is hold back
[13:45] <joseph_> I am google searching while chatting, but no help
[13:46] <Darael> L3top: Ah.  Right.  Yes.  My brain is clearly falling apart.
[13:46] <Simon1245> iceroot, What does that do?
[13:46] <nitzs> pratz: maybe you should try the alternate install cd.
[13:46] <iceroot> !info unity-scope-musicstores
[13:46] <nitzs> Simon1245: yes.
[13:46] <pratz> nitzs: dude i just burned the alternative iso cd
[13:46] <iceroot> is that package installed by default on ubuntu 12.04?
[13:46] <Vessel> Im getting Two errors trying to load the LiveCD : "error: couldn't read file"  AND "error: you need to load the kernel first" Since Ubuntu is not installed, i have no way of trroobleshooting it, because i CANT install. I think its caused by something related to acpi mode in bios, Someone can help me with this?
[13:46] <pratz> why ? why ? it is happing to me
[13:46] <Tinti> Darael: Yeah, I think this is a very good option. But I believe that remounting is safer.
[13:46] <kx> johnm: shit does the same thing?
[13:47] <Simon1245> nitzs, iceroot What's winbind btw, I'm getting problem after it tells me to download it for some reason :S
[13:47] <pratz> is there a bug in the installer ?
[13:47] <L3top> Language kx.
[13:47] <johnm> Vessel: there was actually a poorly built iso, it migth have been you downloaded the wrong one. I'd say download it again and try again.
[13:47] <Darael> Tinti: I will grant that remounting ro prevents any mistakes making it to disk afterward.
[13:47] <iceroot> Simon1245: winbind is the most buggy software out there... its coming normally with wine and is doing the network/samba stuff
[13:47] <johnm> L3top: he meant shift, nothing to do with his language :)
[13:47] <kx> johnm: shift* does the same thing?
[13:48] <Vessel> Ohm.
[13:48] <Vessel> johnm: Ohm
[13:48] <Simon1245> iceroot, Ah okay
[13:48] <johnm> kx: holding down shift is grub-2's modifier to bring up the boot meny
[13:48] <johnm> menu*
[13:48] <Vessel> johnm: i'll give a try right now. thanks.
[13:48] <kx> johnm: ah. esc works as well my friend
[13:48] <iceroot> Simon1245: so its nothing bad at all that winbind gets installed
[13:48] <johnm> Vessel: check the md5 sums match before burning it to a cd :)
[13:48] <Vessel> johnm: For sure.
[13:48] <Simon1245> iceroot, It doesn't it crashes and then sends a report back somewhere
[13:49] <johnm> kx: only if the timer is set to something other than 0. if its not set to wait, then the only way to interrupt it is with the modifier (shift).
[13:49] <Simon1245> iceroot, Anyways, I'll just forget about it :)
[13:49] <iceroot> Simon1245: winbind itself?
[13:49] <Simon1245> iceroot, Yeah
[13:49] <kx> johnm: oh interesting
[13:51] <pratz> no one guys ?
[13:51] <Simon1245> iceroot, Btw, where can I see what's new in 12.04 compared to 11.10?
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> how can i make startup disk ubuntu on windows pc?
[13:51] <nitzs> pratz: maybe you can install a previous version of ubuntu and update it?
[13:51] <pratz> I am trying to install u12.04 also tried alternative cd, but the installer gives the same error
[13:52] <iceroot> !usb  | lotuspsychje
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> iceroot:tnx
[13:52] <iceroot> Simon1245: good questions i think there is somewhere a changelog on ubuntu.com
[13:52] <joseph_> ok, Just booted to the cd and the only options I have are... try kubuntu or install it. How do I recover the system I have? the option isn't here.
[13:52] <Simon1245> iceroot, I'll look for it, thanks :)
[13:52] <Darael> iceroot: The package thou wert asking about?  It's recommended by unity2d, but it's not a full dependency.  So the answer is "maybe".
[13:52] <sign> you ren m
[13:52] <sign> 有人吗
[13:52] <mn_> Okay. Got Ubuntu 11.10 amd64 up and running a live session from my USB stick. What is the first order of business here that I should take?
[13:52] <robgraves> pratz: I've done 3 or 4 installs of 12.04 on several computers with the SAME  LIVE USB sometiems the installer crashed, sometimes it didn't, when it didm, i just restarted the install and it worked fine
[13:52] <pratz> nitzs: i installed debian and trying to install ubuntu on top of it
[13:53] <z3bra> How can I change de default application to open folders ? cause actually, when I run "gnome-open <folder>", I get a new gnome-terminal
[13:53] <compdoc> pratz, you ever run memtest86 thats on the installer cd?
[13:53] <Darael> iceroot: The only Precise machine I have on hand to check with is a server, so it doesn't have unity installed, so I can't give any more info.
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> z3bra  system settings, details
[13:53] <nitzs> pratz: you mean in a VM?
[13:53] <pratz> nitzs: robgraves but really guys what the hell is going on, I am trying this for atleast 10hrs now
[13:53] <z3bra> MonkeyDust: I can't change it from there
[13:53] <sign> 请问有说中文的吗
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[13:54] <z3bra> Only web browser, mail client, music/video player
[13:54] <pratz> nitzs: what vm ??
[13:54] <L3top> pratz: virtual machine
[13:54] <Darael> pratz: One can't turn a debian system into an Ubuntu one.  It doesn't work; they're not ABI-compatible.
[13:54] <pratz> L3top: ya i know that , but i never mentioned vm
[13:54] <mn_> @Darael & L3top I'm back and ready to go, yo
[13:55] <pratz> Darael: I am trying to do a fresh ubuntu install on installed debian and i guess this is possible
[13:55] <z3bra> Where is the mimetype file on ubuntu please ?
[13:55] <venerabl13> Hi, which is the difference between: Main officialy supported software & Main Sources Repository here www.repogen.symplylinux.ch
[13:55] <nitzs> pratz: have you formatted your debian partiton before installing ubuntu over it?
[13:55] <pratz> nitzs: yes
[13:55] <Darael> pratz: What, exactly, dost thou mean?  Please explain thy process.
[13:56] <Simon1245> iceroot, Hey, I keep getting those crash things, is there anyway to update the ubuntu again with all the new packages without interupting it this time?
[13:56] <pratz> Darael: I had installed debian , then i formatted that with ubuntu 12.04 cd and during installation the installer crashes
[13:56] <joseph_> guys please, booting from the cd, how do I get to a boot prompt so I can follow the instructions I found? their booting from cd isn't working. I do not have that option for a command prompt
[13:56] <L3top> pratz: there is not enough information to go on. The error message you describe is not particularly helpful. Is there a file system? Does it get that far? Are there logs you can look at?
[13:56] <pratz> what should i do not guys ?
[13:56] <Darael> pratz: In that case, the pre-existence of debian probably isn't relevant.  Sorry, I thought thou hadst tried to take a functioning debian install and use the Ubuntu repositories to turn it into Ubuntu, which really wouldn't work.
[13:57] <chandru_in> In 12.04 hibernate is disabled by default. Hibernation used to work fine with 11.10. I tried pm-hibernate and exists without any output and an exit code of 1
[13:57] <chandru_in> How can I enable hibernation back?
[13:57] <pratz> L3top: there is no helpfull error message displayed, then how can i give you ?
[13:57] <Darael> pratz: See the query about "are there logs you can look at" for an answer to thy question.
[13:57] <joseph_> or better yet, I'm in the file folder, how do I remove that driver?
[13:57] <L3top> pratz: I again, ask, is there a file system? Can you look at it with a live cd, and look through anything in /var/log
[13:58] <Daekdroom> chandru_in, http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation-in-12-04
[13:58] <chandru_in> Daekdroom, that's how I got to know about pm-hibernate
[13:58] <pratz> L3top: there is not file system now, the harddisk is completed formatted
[13:58] <mn_> L3top Darael I'm back, what is it that I should do? I just chroot'd the system with the failed install. What now?
[13:58] <Daekdroom> chandru_in, that same page tells you how to make it permanent.
[13:58] <Darael> mn_: The chroot went through?
[13:59] <mn_> Darael Yes sir
[13:59] <chandru_in> Daekdroom, the point is pm-hibernate does not try to hibernate and exits with code 1
[13:59] <mn_> or ma'am
[13:59] <L3top> So pratz, it errors immediately when trying to install?
[13:59] <nitzs> pratz: where exactly does the installer crash?
[13:59] <pratz> guys this is really furstating now, 10 hrs guys!
[13:59] <chandru_in> I'm not sure why
[13:59] <Darael> mn_: Great.  I would suggest running "dpkg --configure -a" as a start.  And it's neither "sir" nor "ma'am" - I don't use titles :P
[13:59] <L3top> mn_: dpkg --configure -a
[13:59] <pratz> nitzs: when the installer asks for the country ( for time zone )
[13:59] <Simon1245> Hey guys, is there anyway to redownload Ubuntu 12.04? Without having to do it via a CD as it tells me it'll wipe everything
[14:00] <pratz> nitzs: Intaller says "Where are you from" or something like that
[14:00] <Darael> Simon1245: Thou'lt need to elaborate a bit.  What dost meant by "redownload" exactly?
[14:00] <mn_> Haha okay then Darael :) I'll run that command and see what happens guys
[14:00] <L3top> pratz: I would suspect the disk. Can you run the check cd utility?
[14:00] <auronandace> Simon1245: wipe everything?
[14:01] <Simon1245> Darael, I mean re install, I've messed it up and I keep getting up a lot of crashing messages, like basically reupgrade
[14:01] <fusk> What does it mean when a package in the software center says it's a dummy package ?
[14:01] <pratz> L3top: but i just now burned another disk, same thing
[14:01] <DarsVaeda> anyone with a two monitor setup using unity? how do I get rid of the second side panel on the second monitor?
[14:01] <compdoc> pratz, are you installing to an SSD?
[14:01] <pratz> compdoc: what is SSD ?
[14:01] <Simon1245> auronandace, I don't want to wipe everything, I want to re install ubuntu 12.04 without losing anything because it keeps getting me crash messages and stuff like that
[14:01] <compdoc> nm
[14:01] <usr13> pratz: I find installing from USB less problematic / easier
[14:01] <pratz> compdoc: it is 320gb hard disk
[14:01] <L3top> Did you burn it on the slowest speed possible? I mean... if you aren't going to follow the advice given, I don't really know why you are here jumping up and down like a Jack Russell terrier.
[14:01] <Darael> Simon1245: Ah, I see.  Well, if thou takest the manual partitioning option using the install CD, and choose to use the old root filesystem for / but /not/ to format it, it'll leave /home alone.  Any extra packages will still need reinstalling, but it's a lot better than a full wipe.
[14:02] <wN> does anybody else think that's BS?
[14:02] <wN> burn at a lower speed? why do they even make faster burners if they're unreliable?
[14:02] <minimec> DarsVaeda: Id your GPU supports xrandr, you can disable the launcher in the >settings >displays window
[14:02] <mn_> Okay it told me a lot of packages are not configured yet or there were "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" and then it told me "errors were encountered while processing: $names_of_packages_with_dependency_problems"
[14:02] <gaelfx> wN: because people buy things they think are faster, even if they're less reliable
[14:02] <Darael> wN: Faster burners aren't unreliable per se, it's just that lower speeds are /more/ reliable.
[14:03] <wN> gaelfx: i dont even think you can find a slow burner anymore
[14:03] <usr13> wN: some prolly are (unreliable at maximum speed).
[14:03] <nitzs> wN: it depens upon the media that you are using.
[14:03] <Simon1245> Darael, I got ushare that I don't wanna lose aswell as I can't remember who helped me fix it and it's really usefull for me
[14:03] <DarsVaeda> minimec: sorry did not understand
[14:03] <wN> i'd rather check an md5sum of the disk rather than reburn slower
[14:03] <gaelfx> wN: you can buy _anything_ in China
[14:03] <wN> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_CD
[14:03] <L3top> They make cheap burners wN. Buy a plextor or equiv and it isnt an issue, but you need to slap 40,000 dvd burners in your new dell products, you are buying theoretical burn speeds for 4 dollars each.
[14:03] <Darael> Simon1245: What is "ushare"?
[14:03] <minimec> DarsVaeda: check <System Settings <Displays
[14:03] <usr13> wN: I'd rather just use a thumb drive  :)
[14:04] <wN> i've burned all of my disks at top speed and never had a problem XD
[14:04] <gaelfx> whoa, cool, didn't know you could underline things that way :D
[14:04] <Simon1245> Darael, It lets you watch movies on Xbox through the computer without having to mess around with usb and shit like that transfering stuff
[14:04] <Simon1245> Even pictures and music works I think but I haven't tried music but pictures works for sure
[14:04] <DarsVaeda> minimec: wow cool thats new, thanks!
[14:05] <usr13> wN: Same here, (but you and I have probably only used a limited number of burners and brands of  media)
[14:05] <minimec> DarsVaeda: it is indeed ;)
[14:05] <Darael> mn_: Right.  Run it again, but this time send the output to a file (best to include stderr, too) ("sudo dpkg --configure -a 2>&1 | tee /path/to/file").  Pastebin the contents of the file for us and we'll see what can be done.
[14:05] <mn_> Darael L3top Okay it says failed to fetch $update_url something wicked happened resolving us.archive.ubuntu.com:http (-5 -no address associated with hostname) What causes that?
[14:06] <usr13> wN: Well, I take that back, I have, in fact, made a couple of coasters, and have not found a good reason for it.
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> i got trouble installing nntpgrab saying it needs nntpgrabcore, but cannot install it
[14:06] <Darael> mn_: DNS lookup is failing.  Is the system connected to the net?
[14:06] <mn_> Darael yes
[14:06] <joseph_> geez thanks for your help!!! google isn't helping either
[14:06] <gaelfx> mn_: you aren't in China, are you? GFW'll do that sometimes
[14:06] <wN> Simon1245: if you do a custom partitioning scheme you should be able to avoid formatting the file-system. personally, i create /home and store my important stuff there, and then skip formating that partition during re-installations
[14:06] <Darael> !patience | joseph_
[14:06] <usr13> mn cat /etc/resolv.conf    #See what's there.
[14:07] <Abhijit> joseph_, whats your question?
[14:07] <Darael> usr13: Good call, yes.
[14:07] <wN> joseph_: is your question 'how do i do a command line install'?
[14:07] <mn_> gaelfx No I'm in the US
[14:07] <usr13> mn_: Look in  /etc/resolv.conf    #See if a proper nameserver is listed there.
[14:07] <Simon1245> wN, How do you make a custom partitioning scheme?
[14:07] <Tinti> mn_: what do you get from ping -c4 <IP_ADDRESS> and dig www.google.com @<IP_ADDRESS>
[14:07] <wN> joseph_: you'll probably need to use the alternate installation media
[14:07] <Darael> mn_: Open another terminal, one outside the chroot, and see what the live-CD's /etc/resolv.conf contains.  Ideally, the one in the chroot ought to have the same contents.
[14:07] <gaelfx> good night, #ubuntu
[14:08] <b0ot_> I added a user with the adduser command and now I want to give the user admin rights
[14:08] <serard> hello
[14:08] <b0ot_> how would I do that
[14:08] <b0ot_> 10.04
[14:08] <mn_> usr13 I can browse the net on FF. Wouldn't I have to have a proper nameserver for that?
[14:08] <Darael> usr13: It almost certainly won't - we're fixing a broken system from a chroot in a live CD.
[14:08] <joseph_> How do I get to recovery mode in kubuntu? I tried ect and shift method and booting to the cd. none worked.
[14:08] <wN> Simon1245: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/04/manual-disk-partitioning-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04/
[14:08] <Darael> b0ot_: sudo adduser <username> admin
[14:08] <Simon1245> wN, Thanks :)
[14:08] <fusk> What does it mean when a package in the software center says it's a dummy package ?
[14:08] <usr13> mn_: Can you ping an outside IP address?  (like <IP_ADDRESS> ) ?
[14:08] <Drvanon> hello people, we went from xp to ubuntu (indeed smart choice) but we didn't think about mail and stuff. To make a LOOONNGG story short, i have a .wab file and hope to be able to use it in thunderbird any ideas?
[14:08] <jpds> b0ot_ / Darael: It's sudo adduser <username> sudo on 12.04 now.
[14:08] <serard> I'm on the live cd (linux mint, ubuntu derivative), I fucked my install by installing latest kernel 3.3.3 using .deb files (as I'm on Mint and not Ubuntu). How can I remove this kernel image from the grub given I'm on the live cd ?
[14:08] <Darael> mn_: Don't forget, the inside of the chroot isn't using the same resolv.conf as the outside.  The outside could work without the inside doing so.
[14:08] <joseph_> sorry about being impatient, I just don't want this to go one all day.
[14:09] <Darael> jpds: b0ot_ specified Lucid.
[14:09] <joseph_> it worked fine until I installed that nvidia driver!
[14:09] <bazhang> serard, no cursing, and get mintsupport
[14:09] <usr13> mn_: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf   #Let us have a look.
[14:09] <bazhang> !mintsupport | serard
[14:09] <Abhijit> !details | joseph_
[14:09] <z3bra> Can someone help me please ? I can't manage to set nautilus as the default app for opening folders. It actually launch gnome-terminal when I "gnome-open <folder>" :/
[14:09] <mn_> Yeah, ping and dig are both giving 0% packet loss from inside the chroot term
[14:10] <mn_> Yeah, ping and dig are both giving 0% packet loss from inside the chroot term Darael
[14:10] <usr13> mn_: Then what is your porblem?
[14:10] <pythoneles> hello everyone, can anyone please help me out to get my ecryptfs home back from a previous ubuntu install?
[14:10] <Darael> mn_: in the chroot term, run "dig us.archive.ubuntu.com" for me, please.
[14:10] <L3top> joseph_: why dont you try chrooting from the live cd and revert back to the .40 driver (nvidia-current)
[14:10] <mn_> usr13 dpkg and apt-get DNS lookups are failing
[14:10] <Abhijit> pythoneles, do ecryptfs-mount-private in terminal
[14:10] <Darael> mn_: If that works, try running the one that failed again.  Otherwise, we'll need to change thy mirror.
[14:10] <usr13> mn_: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf   #Let us have a look.
[14:11] <pythoneles> Abhijit, yeah tried that, it mounts on a tmp dir, but how can i link that to my new user?
[14:11] <mn_> Darael digging that failed
[14:11] <Drvanon>  hello people, we went from xp to ubuntu (indeed smart choice) but we didn't think about mail and stuff. To make a LOOONNGG story short, i have a .wab file and hope to be able to use it in thunderbird any ideas?
[14:11] <joseph_> l3top, did you see my post? I posted what options the live cd gave me, it was only to install or try kubuntu, nothing about recovery or even a command prompt
[14:11] <mn_> usr13 okay one moment
[14:11] <usr13> mn_: Or decide for yourself if you have a working nameserver at the top of the list.
[14:12] <doktah> could anyone please help me with ATI multi displays
[14:12] <ThePendulum> Is there a way to create a Windows USB stick from within Ubuntu?
[14:12] <usr13> mn_: If it is your router make sure your router's caching nameserver is turned on.
[14:12] <Darael> mn_: But digging other things works, yes?  In that case, "sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d" and change mirrors.  Removing the "us." is one option - that'll use the central mirror.
[14:12] <Abhijit> pythoneles, this my help http://askubuntu.com/questions/113765/recovering-data-from-private-in-an-ecryptfs-backup-when-the-new-home-is-also-enc
[14:12] <theadmin> ThePendulum: winusb can work for Vista/7/8
[14:12] <jellow> ~
[14:12] <JayWalker_> ThePendulum, define "windows usb stick", as in formatted with FAT?
[14:12] <Simon1245> How can I check what partition I got Ubuntu in?
[14:12] <mn_> usr13: all that file contains is a single line that says "# Generated by NetworkManager"
[14:12] <ThePendulum> JayWalker_: I mean a USB stick with a Windows installation on it ;)
[14:12] <L3top> joseph_: the cd doesnt give you the recovery option... your hd does. I am suggesting a different way, but if you have been trying to get to recovery from cd, then eject it, and boot to hd while pressing shift  over and over
[14:13] <joseph_> wow, there is a lot of questions on here today! no wonder I don't get any answers. :(
[14:13] <ThePendulum> theadmin: I am trying that one now, but the first attempt resulted in an error. Going to try a second time
[14:13] <Abhijit> Simon1245, gparted will show you mount points
[14:13] <ThePendulum> joseph_: What is your question? :O
[14:13] <usr13> mn_: echo <IP_ADDRESS> | cat >> /etc/resolv.conf
[14:13] <theadmin> ThePendulum: Are you running it as root? (you have to)
[14:13] <usr13> mn_: echo nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> | cat >> /etc/resolv.conf
[14:13] <Simon1245> Abhijit, Thanks :(
[14:13] <mn_> Darael: Okay, thank you. Yes, digging google and other sites works. I'll try switching to the central mirror right quick
[14:13] <Simon1245> Abhijit, :)**
[14:13] <joseph_> l3top, I tried that, but it only flashes and goes back to blank screen again.
[14:13] <Abhijit> O.o
[14:13] <pythoneles> Abhijit, thank you, going to try that
[14:13] <mn_> which one of those to run usr13
[14:14] <Darael> mn_: The latter.
[14:14] <usr13> mn_: In other words, place a valid nameserver in the /etc/resolv.conf  and you'll probably do better.
[14:14] <ThePendulum> theadmin: It requested my password for certain permissions, but I'll try to start is as root when this fails as well
[14:14] <L3top> joseph_: people are giving you answers, you just aren't paying attention. Then BOOT TO THE LIVE CD AND CHROOT INTO THE HD
[14:14] <theadmin> ThePendulum: Oh, if it did then it's okay.
[14:14] <joseph_> I am in the live version now and can access my drives, anyway to manually delete that driver?
[14:14] <ThePendulum> theadmin: I'm indeed pretty sure that meant it is running as root
[14:14]  * L3top walks away
[14:14] <mn_> Darael that file has nothing in it
[14:15] <usr13> mn_: And check the router's settings, (paying attention to DNS particularly).
[14:15] <Darael> mn_: That's because I typo'd.  It's a directory.  Edit /etc/apt/sources.list (no .d) instead.
[14:15] <testi> I want to buy something in the software-center, but it says Payment unsuccessful, reason: 3dsecure. Yes 3d-secure may pop up and ask for additional credentials, but why does it become a unsuccessful reason? Because Software Center is incompatible with VISA?
[14:16] <Darael> testi: I agree it's an unhelpful message.  Nevertheless, what it means is "3dsecure is indicating failure and I don't know what kind".
[14:16] <doktah> could anyone please help me with ATI multi displays
[14:17] <Simon1245> http://tinypic.com/r/2db9r7k/6 :S Which one has Ubuntu in it?
[14:17] <Darael> !somebody | doktah
[14:17] <testi> Darael, okay - then probably the reason is that it doesn't popup..
[14:17] <kobiluruz> i installed the newest ubuntu today and been playing around a bit with it. for me who has used MS in all my years. this is just awefull to use. not even a start menu :p i saw something called kde that is simmelar to MS, how do i install this ?
[14:17] <Vessel> Hello again, Having troubles loading the LiveCD, Grub loads, but try/install options give me two errors : " error: couldn't read file" AND " error: you need to load the kernel first" MD5 is Ok, CD burned a lot of times...
[14:17] <Darael> testi: I'm afraid I'm not actually an expert on that.
[14:17] <theadmin> !purekde | kobiluruz
[14:18] <auronandace> Simon1245: sda8, why do you have 3 swap partitions?
[14:18] <mn_> usr13: What would you suggest using as my nameserver
[14:18] <joseph_> ok team, I got into recovery mode. thank you for your help, I'll take it from here! :)
[14:18] <Simon1245> auronandace, No idea :S I haven't made them lol they came automactally I think
[14:18] <Darael> kobiluruz: Firstly, give it a chance - it's different, but it's not necessarily bad.  Second, Kubuntu is the KDE version of Ubuntu, and theadmin just had the bot provide instructions for that.
[14:18] <Darael> mn_: Google public DNS is a reasonable choice:  <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:18] <doktah> Does anyone have the time to please tell me how to log in as a super user so I can change setting with ati multi displays, thanks.
[14:18] <hylian> !linux-crashdump
[14:19] <hylian> !crashdump
[14:19] <doktah> Does anyone have the time to please tell me how to log in as a super user so I can change setting with ati multi displays?
[14:19] <doktah> sorry
[14:19] <hylian> worth a try
[14:19] <auronandace> !sudo | doktah
[14:19] <mn_> Darael: Both of them? Also, how do I format the resolv.conf file?
[14:19] <kobiluruz> Darael, i gave it a try. its bad for me. you know. its hard to teach a old dog new tricks. same goes for me and gui :p
[14:19] <Vessel> Hello again, Having troubles loading the LiveCD, Grub loads, but try/install options give me two errors : " error: couldn't read file" AND " error: you need to load the kernel first" MD5 is Ok, CD burned a lot of times...
[14:19] <fusk> What's a dummy package, seen in software center.
[14:19] <mn_> Still no good :(
[14:19] <hylian> i installed linux-crashdump, but I cannot find how to use it. My acer aspire one crashes if i reboot, it's been that way since 11.10.
[14:20] <Darael> kobiluruz: Fair enough, I suppose.  Look at the instructions the bot pointed at, then.
[14:20] <mn_> I changed to central mirror and included those IP addresses in the resolv.conf file and I'm still getting the same errors L3top Darael usr13
[14:21] <Darael> mn_: Pastebin the resolv.conf, please?
[14:21] <theadmin> fusk: It's a package used simply to provide other packages (as dependencies), mostly for ease-of-use and/or compatibility reasons.
[14:21] <mn_> Okay, I found part of the problem, libc6 needs to be reinstalled, but the ssytem can't find an archive for it
[14:22] <Simon1245> By the way is there any repair option in the cd that I can run while being on it? Like it repairs the whole ubuntu instead of doing a complete reinstall?
[14:22] <fusk> theadmin, so it's not just an empty install.
[14:23] <Darael> mn_: If it won't download, it's possible to use apt-get download outside the chroot, and stick it in $CHROOT/var/cache/apt/archives.
[14:23] <theadmin> fusk: Well, dummy packages normally DO have no content, indeed, they *are* empty pretty much...
[14:23] <mn_> Darael usr13 pastebin.com/SLGxthMV
[14:23] <Vessel> Hello again, Having troubles loading the LiveCD, Grub loads, but try/install options give me two errors : " error: couldn't read file" AND " error: you need to load the kernel first" MD5 is Ok, CD burned a lot of times...
[14:23] <b0ot_> I created a user with useradd foo admin
[14:23] <b0ot_> however when I tried to do a sudo with that user
[14:23] <b0ot_> it said i wasn't in the sudoers file
[14:23] <b0ot_> 10.04
[14:24] <jrib> b0ot_: yes, you need to add your user to the admin group
[14:24] <killer> hi.....is there any way to install unity in other linux distro's
[14:24] <theadmin> b0ot_: That's not a valid useradd syntax, it's "adduser foo admin" instead. Don't mess commands (useradd is low-level)
[14:24] <LjL> killer: you should ask in the channel for the relevant distro
[14:24] <b0ot_> theadmin: i did adduser... i just mistyped
[14:24] <auronandace> killer: there may be, depending on the distro (unity is in aur for archlinux)
[14:24] <jrib> b0ot_: you need to log out and back in then
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> anyone using nntpgrab? i got some trouble installing
[14:25] <theadmin> b0ot_: Oh, okay. When you log in as that user, does "groups" list admin?
[14:25] <saml> can I remove gnome-keyring?
[14:25] <killer> auronandace: i am using opensuse
[14:25] <auronandace> killer: then ask in #opensuse
[14:25] <theadmin> saml: If you don't need the password storage mechanism, sure. Please note that NetworkManager won't properly remember wi-fi passwords and such anymore.
[14:25] <L3top> mn_: try this... add deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt precise main restricted universe multiverse  and  deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt precise-updates main restricted universe multiverse         to your /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update
[14:25] <b0ot_> groups?
[14:25] <Darael> mn_: Yeah, that resolv.conf won't help.  Add a "nameserver " before each IP.
[14:25] <joseph_> ok google isn't helping again! I need to uninstall this nvidia driver using root shell prompt. How do I do that?
[14:25] <b0ot_> my gui section is disabled for users i can only do cli
[14:25] <saml> theadmin, i see.. it just prints a lot of WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-cxPsIx/pkcs11:
[14:26] <b0ot_> theadmin: can I just add a line
[14:26] <killer> haha.....i went there...they say ...ask in ubuntu ...n in ubuntu"ask in #suse..funny haa:auronandace
[14:26] <b0ot_> foo ALL=(ALL) ALL
[14:26] <fusk> theadmin, i see, i thought it would be, so when you see a dummy package, you know that program has to be download frmo their website and installed through terminal, right?
[14:26] <minimec> saml: You can change the keyring password to 'blank' (nothing). Like that you will not be prompted for a password. I don't think it's a good idea to uninstall it.
[14:26] <b0ot_> in my sudoers file?
[14:26] <theadmin> b0ot_: Why sure.
[14:26] <theadmin> b0ot_: Use "visudo" to edit sudoers though
[14:26] <auronandace> killer: well, only they can say if they support it
[14:26] <saml> I do   svn up   and it prints that warning from gnome-keyring
[14:27] <Darael> mn_: Like so: http://pastebin.com/ncY0XK0K
[14:27] <Vessel> Hello again, Having troubles loading the LiveCD, Grub loads, but try/install options give me two errors : " error: couldn't read file" AND " error: you need to load the kernel first" MD5 is Ok, CD burned a lot of times...
[14:27] <mn_> Holy hell. Adding those helped A LOT, but it still failed to resolve 4 of them and more may fail as it continues. It's not done yet
[14:27] <Simon1245> Thanks for help everyone, going to reinstall it :) Bye :)
[14:27] <z3bra> How can I set default app to open folders please ?
[14:28] <mn_> Yeah, that time it just failed to resolve 9 instead of all of them usr13 Darael :D
[14:28] <L3top> I wouldnt worry about the ones that fail if those mirrors provide the actual packages needed
[14:28] <Vessel> Hello again, Having troubles loading the LiveCD, Grub loads, but try/install options give me two errors : " error: couldn't read file" AND " error: you need to load the kernel first" MD5 is Ok, CD burned a lot of times. I cant find any info related on google.
[14:29] <L3top> Vessel try and make a bootable thumbdrive instead. USB are prone to a lot fewer failures
[14:29] <mn_> Wow, why did I need to specify nameservers?
[14:29] <Darael> !patience | Vessel
[14:29] <Darael> Vessel: Sounds like it's having trouble loading the kernel, so that it then doesn't like the initrd.
[14:29] <mn_> Why would it not come with some specified. How is it expected to work like that?
[14:29] <frybye> Vessel - what speed did you burn the cd at? Did you let the programm check the cd after burning?
[14:30] <Darael> mn_: Normally network-manager autogenerates /etc/resolv.conf, but in a chroot it's not running.
[14:30] <twoten> I upgraded to 12.04 and lost my wireless, anyone up on wireless repair?
[14:30] <Vessel> L3top:  Cant use a USB drive instead,  i dont have any :/
[14:30] <Darael> !anyone | twoten
[14:30] <mn_> At any rate, this is some progress, and I think this may have me well on my way to fixing the problem. Thanks guys! and Ahh I see
[14:30] <L3top> Vessel let go of the 5 dollars. Otherwise follow frybyes advice
[14:31] <Vessel> frybye: I've checked the CD, always burned at its lowest,
[14:31] <kx> the funniest part about this is all he had to do was copy /etc/resolv.conf from the system into the chroot jail but i've been enjoying watching this anyway. cant wait to see what happens on the dpkg front with my bowl of popcorn
[14:31] <twoten> I tried running ifconfig up but it says unknown device for ever variation of wlan, wlan0 etc, How can I find out my device name?
[14:31] <minimec> z3bra: ? nautilus would be the default app to open files in ubuntu, like 'nautilus Desktop'. Do you mean that?
[14:31] <Vessel> I think this is related to AHCI Mode in Bios, But IDE mode makes the grub to dont load after installation.
[14:32] <Darael> kx: That's only what I advocated from the beginning.  Why not be helpful instead of snarky?
[14:32] <acer-ubuntu> l3top: i am back
[14:32] <kx> Darael: i was the most helpful here. reinstalling was and still is the best way to go
[14:32] <Darael> twoten: Try ifconfig -a to get it to list interfaces that aren't up.
[14:32] <hylian> !crash
[14:32] <L3top> obvious troll is obvious
[14:33] <z3bra> minimec: Yes, but actually, when I run "xdg-open <folder>" I get a gnome-terminal openned on ~/
[14:33] <Darael> L3top: I'm terrible at refraining from feeding them.  I try, but I just can't stop myself.
[14:33] <kx> hope glibc complains about version 1.4 that would be icing on the cake 8]
[14:34] <hylian> how do i use crash? (linux-crashdump)? I have read the man pages, but still don't get it. why do they assume you know where anything is? oh well.
[14:34] <minimec> z3bra: strange. For me it opens nautilus...
[14:34] <twoten> hmmm, I get eth0 and lo but no mention of wlan, the blue light showing wireless is orange so it seems that ifconfig can't even see my device and yet it shows up in lspci and dmesg
[14:35] <Darael> twoten: I was going to ask about lspci.  Wouldst thou pastebin the relevant bit of dmesg (and a few lines either side, just in case) for us?
[14:35] <z3bra> minimec: One day, i tried to open a terminal in a special working dir, and did "open with > gnome-terminal"
[14:35] <z3bra> Since this day, I can't go back to the previous setting
[14:36] <z3bra> It still open a gnome-terminal
[14:36] <Darael> z3bra: I presume thou hast tried running nautilus from a terminal, and then doing the open with thing again to revert it?
[14:37] <joseph_> NOTHING is working on this thing?
[14:37] <z3bra> YEs
[14:37] <joseph_> never mind, I'm not reposting and starting over again.
[14:37] <z3bra> But this don't work :/
[14:37] <z3bra> My default.list is set to nautilus.desktop for inode/directory
[14:37] <ome> The upgrade me my Java based IDE fonts ugly. where should I look for making changes ?
[14:37] <L3top> twoten: what does lspci say that it is?
[14:38] <ome> the IDE is netbeans.
[14:38] <ome> made*
[14:40] <fusk> Darael, You mentioned conky, would you know anything about how to use it?
[14:40] <ome> nevermind.
[14:40] <Darael> fusk: Not really, sorry.
[14:40] <jrib> z3bra: what defaults.list are you checking?
[14:40] <Darael> fusk: It's one of those things I always meant to play with but never did.
[14:40] <fidel_> fusk: in general? launch it with -c and path to your config file - which defines what to display
[14:40] <z3bra> /usr/share/applications/default.list
[14:41] <z3bra> jrib:
[14:41] <fidel_> fusk: you'll find tons of example config files in the web
[14:41] <fusk> Darael, no problem, was just hoping.
[14:41] <L3top> twoten: lspci | grep irele
[14:41] <jrib> zebe42: first of all, that's the system-wide setting.  You would want to check ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list .  Second of all, I think (though I'm not sure so check both) it's now ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[14:41]  * L3top is a lazy grepper
[14:42] <prc384> do shell scripts have to end in .sh
[14:42]  * jrib wonders waht an irele is
[14:42] <fusk> fidel_, i do not know how to do that, was hoping for a gui.
[14:42] <jrib> prc384: no
[14:42] <krey_> hello, how can I install the broadcom-wl drivers?
[14:42] <sre> prc384, no.
[14:42] <sre> :D
[14:42] <prc384> i created a script in my /bin directory and i tried to run it by typing its name and i got no command found
[14:42] <Darael> prc384: No, but it's a useful memory hook.
[14:42] <L3top> jrib a lazy way to get Wireless across without dealing with missed cap or -i because I am lazy
[14:43] <jrib> prc384: type: hash -r   and then try again
[14:43] <Darael> prc384: Does it have a shebang?
[14:43] <z3bra> Nice jrib ! It was effectively in my local setting
[14:43] <z3bra> thanks !
[14:43] <L3top> !broadcom | krey_
[14:43] <jrib> z3bra: no problem
[14:44] <Darael> prc384: As a general note, if the script doesn't need to be accessible to everyone, it's probably better to put it in, say, ~/scripts, and add that to thy personal $PATH.
[14:44] <prc384> ok
[14:44] <fusk> fidel_, just to clarify, i installed 12.04 like 4 days ago, and have absolutely no previous knowledge of linux, besides a live cd some years ago.
[14:44] <jrib> prc384, Darael: if you use ~/bin, the default ~/.profile has a clause to automatically add ~/bin to the path
[14:44] <meganerd> Darael: convention is usually ~/bin
[14:45] <Darael> jrib: So it does.  Well caught.
[14:45] <sre> prc384, the end of files help you identify them. Some editors use .sh .c .php endings to identify and individual behavior like color, highlight, and much more
[14:45] <prc384> so i would have to run it with ~/bin/script_name
[14:45] <prc384> ?
[14:45] <twoten> I do lspci | grep Network and get this: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[14:45] <jrib> prc384: nope, just "script_name"
[14:45] <prc384> Yeah didnt work.
[14:45] <L3top> !broadcom | twoten
[14:45] <twoten> but dmesg | grep Broadcom shows nothing
[14:46] <fidel_> fusk: well ... in case you want to use it - consider reading the manual or some howto. it might look difficult at start - but it youstart based on some config from the web it should work petty much out of the box if you spend 10 minutes.
[14:46] <jrib> prc384: well, if you use ~/bin, you need to either log out and back in or do « source ~/.profile »
[14:46] <Darael> prc384: Nope - if ~/bin/ is in $PATH, it should run with just "script_name".
[14:46] <z3bra> jrib: You talked about ~/bin that is added to the $PATH by default, is it ubuntu specific ?
[14:46] <fidel_> otherwise: its eye-candy basically - so no must-have app
[14:46] <Darael> prc384: Or 'PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"', of course.
[14:46] <prc384> Sorry it was permissions error
[14:47] <jrib> z3bra: it's in ubuntu's default ~/.profile, see /etc/skel/.profile .  I don't know if that comes from debian (my guess is yes)
[14:47] <prc384> for some reason it defaulted to 555 as permission
[14:47] <sre> prc384, chmod +x filename
[14:47] <prc384> yeah 755 it already and it worked
[14:47] <meganerd> prc384: did you make the script executable?  Is there #!/bin/bash as the first line (or whatever is appropriate for the language that you used)?
[14:47] <prc384> ty
[14:47] <jrib> 555 shouldn't prevent you from executing something anyway
[14:47] <prc384> yep meganerd
[14:47] <z3bra> jrib: okay, so it is just specified by default in the .profile
[14:47] <z3bra> Thanks =)
[14:47] <prc384> only read no execute with 555
[14:48] <pedroTI> good morning
[14:48] <theadmin> prc384: 555 = (4+1)(4+1)(4+1) = ugo=rx
[14:48] <jrib> prc384: 555 means everyone can read and execute but no one can write
[14:48] <sre> prc384, #!/bin/bash is needed at the top of your scriptfile
[14:49] <wolter> how should I build the STA driver with bcmwl-kernel-source package?
[14:49] <fusk> fidel_,  that's how i've survived so far :) but sometimes the how tos can be quite cryptic for the average eyes,
[14:49] <pedroTI> who install AMSN in ubuntu 12.4
[14:49] <sre> wolter, you can enable STA in your Makefile
[14:50] <fusk> fidel_, will try google some more, see if i can't find something. thanks for you help.
[14:50] <L3top> !broadcom | wolter
[14:51] <twoten> there seems to be a lot of Broadcom issues with 12.04, just my small observation
[14:51] <pedroTI> and skype
[14:52] <sre> I haven't noticed more problems in PP than earlier releases w/broadcom
[14:52] <L3top> it is across all ubuntu twoten. Terrible hw
[14:53] <sre> pedroTI, what about Skype?
[14:53] <fidel_> fusk: there is #conky - and maybe as a starting point: http://wiki.conky.be/index.php?title=Conky_Wiki
[14:53] <pedroTI> install skype and amsn
[14:54] <Darael> Hmm, the !terminal factoid is out of date by several releases - it things we still have an applications->accessories menu.
[14:54] <pedroTI> in ubuntu 12
[14:54] <sre> pedroTI, yes. both infact. Do you have problem with either of them ?
[14:55] <pedroTI> who
[14:55] <sre> pedroTI, skype or/and amsn
[14:55] <belak> What possible reasons are there for me being unable to assign Super-Shift-Right to a key bind, but I can do the same thing with all other directions?
[14:56] <datruth> does memtest restart itself?
[14:56] <pedroTI> skype and amsn
[14:56] <sj> hi
[14:56] <Darael> belak: At a guess, something's interrupting it before it gets to whatever handles the binding.  No idea what.  Maybe use xev to see if it's getting to the X server, at least?
[14:57] <Darael> belak: I'd expect it to be, but one never knows.
[14:57] <sj> hello
[14:57] <cost> I need some help for editing initrd.lz .... I want to want to disable live cd plymouth completely... Help please to get started
[14:57] <TheBuntu> was in mint 12.. installed kubuntu 12.04 last night.. Think this is ubuntu's best!! boot time faster.. apt-get faster.. smaller memory useage
[14:57] <sre> pedroTI, I downloaded skype from the website. I think I needed ia32-libs for installing. But that I need to check
[14:58] <pedroTI> I can not install amsn
[14:58] <pedroTI> and skype
[14:58] <ThePendulum> TheBuntu: My personal favorite definitely is Xubuntu. KDE just looks so amateuristic by default already
[14:58] <TheBuntu> ThePendulum: i like kde
[14:58] <sre> pedroIT, a sec. will check the dependencies for skype
[14:59] <sj> 没有想象到好用。。。
[14:59] <ThePendulum> TheBuntu: All those gradients and glows and transparancy and blurs and stuff collides with my simplistic preferrences
[14:59] <ThePendulum> *collide
[14:59] <L3top> !cn | sj
[14:59] <pedroTI> I download skype-ubuntu_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[15:00] <DarkStar1> Hi, I am following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/openldap-server.html#openldap-server-installation to try and install an ldap server, however I can't log in as it refuses to accept the password I entered during the creation process, nor recognise the correct dn as defined in my /etc/hosts/ file
[15:00] <xskydevilx> Where does Crossover install itself?
[15:00] <pedroTI> and not instaled
[15:00] <belak> Darael: Ah, didn't think of checking with xev
[15:00] <DarkStar1> has anyone tried to do this recently and encountered the same problem?
[15:02] <belak> Darael: ok, I just tried it... it'll accept the Super key, and the Shift key, but not the right key while they're held down
[15:02] <sre> pedroIT, which Ubuntu installation do you run ? if you installed 64bit you need to apt-get install ia32-libs (for multiarch)
[15:03] <Darael> belak: How fascinating.  I'm afraid I have no idea what could be causing it.
[15:03] <belak> Darael: it will, however, accept Super+Right and Shift+Right
[15:03] <belak> And Alt+Right
[15:03] <belak> Heh
[15:03] <georgelappies> are the zsync servers working? can't seem to download the DVD with zsync?
[15:04] <neattoast> georgelappies: check on isup.me
[15:04] <Karmaon> are there any packet generators anyone prefers over the others?
[15:06] <neattoast> Karmaon: I just love ping.
[15:07] <neattoast> :)
[15:07] <Darael> !poll | Karmaon: I agree with neattoast, and
[15:07] <georgelappies> thanks neattoast
[15:08] <iceroot> xskydevilx: dpkg -L crossover
[15:08] <Karmaon> thanks
[15:08] <BrianH> Hey guys, quick question.  I have a LAMP server setup with vsftpd configured.  How can I add the www directory access to the user accounts while maintaining chroot_local_user?
[15:09] <craigbass1976> I type echo $JAVA_HOME into a terminal, and get nothing.  however, I'm able to run java apps.  Eh?
[15:09] <jrib> craigbass1976: why are you surprised?
[15:10] <craigbass1976> jrib, is this a trick question?
[15:10] <jrib> craigbass1976: no?
[15:11] <jhsuh> hi
[15:12] <neattoast> do you have a problem?
[15:12] <UICTamale> does unity support any 'official' way to totally do away with the global app menu?
[15:13] <neattoast> I think that is supposed to be a feature of 12.10, so no.
[15:14] <djszapi> hey, what package installs libIL on ubuntu ?
[15:15] <djszapi> libdevil ?
[15:15] <kel_> www.google.com
[15:15] <kel_> could help you out alot
[15:15] <kel_> with package names
[15:15] <neattoast> !patience > djszapi
[15:15] <iceroot> djszapi: libdevil-dev
[15:15] <iceroot> kel_: no need such answers here
[15:16] <iceroot> kel_: the better answer would be "apt-file search libIL"
[15:16] <belak> Where are the shortcuts set for Super-1 and Super-2? I can't find them.
[15:16] <djszapi> yep, it was "libdevil1c2".
[15:16] <djszapi> iceroot: thanks
[15:17] <dresden> usb 3.0 problems anyone???
[15:17] <kel_> iceroot_: i was merely giving him a helping hand for later
[15:17] <n1> anyone uses aircrack?
[15:17] <LjL> !anyone
[15:17] <mn_> I've used aircrack ng
[15:17] <iceroot> kel_: google is not welcome here as an answer, sorry
[15:18] <LjL> kel_: no need to give google when we have http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[15:18] <dresden> ubottu, questions usually do follow a set pattern...irc + ubuntu doesn't change the rules
[15:19] <dresden> ubottu, evidently
[15:19] <Sidewinder> Heh,.
[15:19] <LjL> dresden: whether you like it or not we do have specific rules here though, which involve not asking "anyone" questions
[15:20] <dresden> oh ok, Does someone have a problem with usb 3.0
[15:20] <craigbass1976> jrib, we're running a java app with a signature pad.  The sigpad keeps choking.  I'm supposed to "modify" my environment and add this "LOG4J_configuration=file:///home/me/filename"  I'm not sure at all how to proceed.  I'm using Sun's java, not openjava, as openjava always causes printing problems.
[15:20] <LjL> i wish i had USB 3.0 in the first place!
[15:20] <iceroot> !details | dresden
[15:20] <dresden> i like how you guys are so on point with "etiquette" yet completely useless otherwise
[15:21] <storyteller> Hi, In an interview today I was asked how to set a thresh hold limit for on sever so that it doesnt cross the value 1.Googled but unable to find answer.
[15:21] <iceroot> dresden: you have an ubuntu related support question?
[15:21] <dresden> yes
[15:21] <theadmin> dresden: You have to actually ask something before anyone can be useful.
[15:21] <LjL> dresden: if you have a problem with the rules take it to #ubuntu-ops, otherwise ask a specific question including details of what the problem is etc
[15:21] <L3top> I like how easily you are offended having not posed an actual question.
[15:21] <dresden> oh shut up dude
[15:21] <L3top> That will get you helped.
[15:21] <jrib> craigbass1976: have you tried adding that to your environment?
[15:21] <Poindexter_> What is all of the fuss with the new Ubuntu release? Can anyone sum it up in two sentences?
[15:21] <kel_> Poin its new...
[15:21] <LjL> Poindexter_: there's fuss at every release. there's nothing particularly special about this one
[15:21] <jpds> Poindexter_: Why don't you download the LiveCD and find out for yourself?
[15:21] <neattoast> Poindexter: hud, speed, privacy
[15:22] <jiffe98> anyone know why I might be getting this error or where I can look to find out why? http://nsab.us/public/slapd
[15:22] <craigbass1976> jrib, I don't know how.  Last time I messed with java environments, it was in Fedora3 and I had a .bash_profile I had to dork with.
[15:22] <theadmin> Poindexter_: Most of the fuss is because it's LTS. People seem to think that means more stable.
[15:22] <iceroot> Poindexter_: LTS
[15:22] <auronandace> Poindexter_: its a lts release, it will be around for 5 years (first lts with unity)
[15:22] <nishtta2> can Ubuntu support 2 graphics cards on the system?
[15:22] <jrib> craigbass1976: you can place things in ~/.profile
[15:22] <iceroot> nishtta2: yes
[15:22] <Poindexter_> I noticed that it is starting to become bloatware.
[15:22] <n1> an aircrack user perhaps?
[15:22] <jpds> !ot | Poindexter_
[15:22] <theadmin> Poindexter_: You can try Lubuntu or Xubuntu for a lighter experience.
[15:22] <dresden> not interested in help, or a lesson channel rules...has anyone else expereince problems with usb 3.0 on 12.04???
[15:22] <jrib> craigbass1976: but to text, you can just go in your shell, do « export LOG_WHATEVER_BLAH=XYZ » and then run apps inside that instance of your shell
[15:22] <nishtta2> iceroot, i had nvidia quadro NVS 420 running 4 monitors and that was a nightmare
[15:23] <Poindexter_> I have used XUbuntu and it is a lot lighter.
[15:23] <nishtta2> iceroot, someone suggested that i should go with AMD