[00:00] <kingofswords> escott, seemed to resoled itself, thx for help....still been having probs with ubuntu ever since started using tho
[00:01] <knightrage> auu: yeah i dont think 12.10 will have 2.6.x kernel
[00:02] <knightrage> auu: check uname -r for your kernel version
[00:02] <auu> knightrage: 3.2.0-24-generic-pae
[00:02] <knightrage> yeah. 2.6.x moduless wont work in that
[00:04] <auu> knightrage: so what should I do if there are no official drivers for new kernels? ndiswrapper??
[00:05] <Tangiera> is tere any command to display the current ethernet media speed and duplex?
[00:07] <Tangiera> I guess that must mean "no"
[00:07] <auu> Tangiera: or no idea
[00:07] <oqpo> Tangiera: maybe with nm-tool
[00:08] <oqpo>  Capabilities:     Speed:           100 Mb/s
[00:08] <oqpo> Tangiera:  ifconfig  can also help.
[00:09] <knightrage> auu: not sure. guess it's worth a shot
[00:09] <Tangiera> I tried ifconfig, it didn't display media speed
[00:10] <naryfa> Tangiera: what is meant by media? ethernet card?
[00:10] <sumojim> Ok, I've blacklisted "vgastate, v4l1-compat, i915, and libdrm-intel1 and xserver-xorg-video-intel", in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but X is still starting. I'm guessing I still don't have the correct graphics driver name?
[00:10] <auu> knightrage: lol maybe I was wrong. the one I copied.. it's not a wifi card but a cable.. lol.. the wifi is probably  Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000.. lol.. sorry for that
[00:11] <naryfa> Tangiera: there is a package called netspeed I think
[00:11] <Tangiera> naryfa; yes, I'd like to know if I'm connecting at 10/100/1000 and what duplex'
[00:11] <escott> sumojim, if you just want X to not start remove the display manager
[00:11] <vlt> Tangiera: ethtool
[00:12] <arooni-mobile> hi folks..... my hard drive is going to crash... i need to back up my data, i have the parts of /home backed up i need. (documents, photos, music)  ...... but i'm wondeirng if i should back up anything else?
[00:12] <sumojim> escott, I just want to stop X temporarily.
[00:12] <knightrage> auu: check http://mikebeach.org/2011/07/09/ubuntu-and-the-intel-centrino-wireless-n-1000-wireless-card/ then. just googling here. "It’s a compatible card, but needs some nudging to get it to work."
[00:12] <escott> arooni-mobile, /etc and follow !clone
[00:13] <sumojim> escott: and sudo gdm stop isn't bringing me to a terminal.
[00:13] <naryfa> arooni-mobile: the best thing is to clone your partition with dd utility
[00:13] <escott> sumojim, does ctrl-alt-f1 not take you to a terminal?
[00:13] <oqpo> arooni-mobile: configuration are stores in the dot files in your home ( ~/ ), like ~/.config, etc
[00:14] <arooni-mobile> escott, whats in /etc/
[00:14] <vlt> arooni-mobile: Or a bit more efficient than dd: ddrescue. Especially if there are already bad sectors.
[00:15] <escott> arooni-mobile if you dont know then you probably never modified it so you dont need to back it up. but various system wide config files are there
[00:15] <bastidrazor> sumojim: which version of ubuntu? if past 10.04 then sudo service lightdm stop
[00:15] <RealEyes> how do I make ubuntu show my pidgin friends list?
[00:16] <arooni-mobile> *all* i cant use dd because my external hard drive is ntfs...  and i cant format it (borrowing from a friend)
[00:16] <escott> arooni-mobile, you can use dd, you just put the of=/path/to/file/in/the/ntfs/drive
[00:17] <naryfa> arooni-mobile: I always questioned the length of reinstalling stuff onto a new system, if it takes longer than recovering entire partition at once, or if the backup procedure will have you jumping between dirs, it's really more convenient to do a partition backup. Unless you want a fresh install
[00:17] <escott> arooni-mobile, if you are backing up your /home to an ntfs you want to do it differently. you should use tar to create an archive of your home, not cp because permissions will be lost
[00:17] <zabomber> vlt: but cloning a partition with a live OS is not recommended if you moving to new hardware right?
[00:17] <naryfa> arooni-mobile: therefore, I stick to dd
[00:18] <psusi> zabomber, Ubuntu is generally quite fine with drastically altering hardware
[00:18] <the_explorer> Hi ubuntu 12x nvidia driver failed me. Gonna have to revert to 10.04
[00:18] <escott> arooni-mobile, use "tar -c /home > /path/to/file/on/the/ntfs/home_backup.tar" to make your backup of your home folder
[00:18] <zabomber> arooni-mobile: the gui backup utility is also pretty straight forward and simple to setup
[00:18] <vlt> zabomber: Yes, not if it’s mounted in rw mode. But if there’s no possibility to run an external OS (from USB or live CD) (and you don’t have LVM) then rsync works fine.
[00:19] <zabomber> psusi: so if i dd my OS partition and move to new hardware i dont need to do a repair install?
[00:19] <zabomber> vlt: ok! great
[00:19] <escott> arooni-mobile, actually tar -cp /home > ....
[00:19] <psusi> zabomber, no... but dd is kind of a sucky way to do it... requires the new disk to be >= size of old one, and you have to resize after to make use of the new space... and wastes time copying free sectors
[00:20] <sumojim> bastidrazor: 10.04
[00:20] <bastidrazor> sumojim: sudo service gdm stop
[00:21] <sumojim> escott: No, Ctrl-Alt-F1 takes me to a dark grey screen, no terminal, no cursor.
[00:21] <auu> knightrage: I followed that page but I'm not sure it's settled.
[00:21] <auu> iwlist scan
[00:21] <auu> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[00:21] <auu> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[00:21] <psusi> zabomber, last year I replaced my whole motherboard, cpu, ram, booted up just fine... added a new ssd and migraded the system over to the new drive in the background while still using it
[00:21] <sumojim> bastidrazor: sudo service gdm stop takes me to a dark grey screen, no terminal, no cursor.
[00:21] <escott> sumojim, i doubt not starting x will solve your problem. plymouth will have already started and if modeswitching is broken it will still be broken. you could try "nomodeset"
[00:22] <escott> sumojim, what chipset do you have?
[00:22] <arooni-mobile> is there a gui to make tar files?  my files are located all over the place
[00:22] <RealEyes> how do I get ubuntu to show my pidgin messenger list?
[00:22] <sumojim> escott: How can I find out?
[00:23] <escott> sumojim, sudo lshw -C video
[00:23] <usr13> sumojim: What happens when you type in your user name and hit enter, (in the dark grey screen)?
[00:23] <arooni-mobile> escott, are permissions important if i'm the owner of all the files/folders?
[00:24] <escott> arooni-mobile, fileroller is a gui for archival, and yes permissions do matter even for $HOME
[00:24] <usr13> sontek: tty6  (Ctrl-Alt-F6)
[00:24] <usr13> sumojim: tty6  (Ctrl-Alt-F6)
[00:25] <escott> arooni-mobile, the concern is mostly with your keyrings and private keys, but applications will fail if you mess those permissions up
[00:25] <the_explorer> Why has the nvidia drivers give bananas ?
[00:27] <usr13> the_explorer: Because almost all primates like bannas.  (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
[00:27] <arooni-mobile> escott, this applies even if i'm completely reinstalling ubuntu?
[00:27] <the_explorer> Gone bananas
[00:28] <joallard> X crashes every two days. What do I do about this?
[00:28] <kriminal>  hola buenas noches alguien me podria ayudar con xubuntu 12.04
[00:28] <the_explorer> I can't even get working on 12x
[00:28] <escott> arooni-mobile, if you restore your $HOME directly then the permissions will be wrong for those files. so yes
[00:28] <sunitasethi> hello does anyone know how ubuntu 12.04can detect and install a driver usb ethernet adapter?
[00:28] <sumojim> escott: lshw brings (display: unclaimed, product:intel, vendor:intel), typing username and pressing enter in grey screen show no response.
[00:28] <escott> !es | kriminal
[00:29] <sunitasethi> hello does anyone know how ubuntu 12.04can detect and install a driver for usb ethernet adapter?
[00:29] <escott> sumojim, it should have a lot more detail than that
[00:29] <RealEyes> how do I get ubuntu to show my pidgin messenger list?
[00:29] <the_explorer> My x on 12x is busted after nvidia install
[00:29] <sumojim> usr13: Ctrl-Alt-F6 brings me to a dark grey screen, no cursor, not prompt, completely unresponsive to any imput.
[00:29] <joallard> Bug reporter asks me what to do about a Xorg crash. What do I tell it?
[00:29] <escott> sunitasethi, some models yes. is that the answer you want
[00:29] <RealEyes> finally did it after clicking it a million times
[00:30] <joallard> Apport* asks me what to do about a Xorg crash. What do I tell it?
[00:30] <RealEyes> a million ways
[00:30] <sunitasethi> realeyes: on the top right where there is an envelope point and see oidin messenger
[00:30] <sumojim> escott: It did, but it's on another PC and I'm literally writing on a pad and typing it out. Anything specific you are looking for?
[00:30] <arooni-mobile> escott,  i will be creating that /home partition from scratch on a new parition.  they are swapping hard drives on my laptop; so i need to move data over to a external hard drive first
[00:30] <sunitasethi> escott: this is for speedstream 1001
[00:31] <sumojim> escott: I'll find a USB.
[00:31] <escott> arooni-mobile, the permissions on your keyring or your private key are set so that they can only be read by you. if you move them to ntfs and back they will be readable by everyone
[00:31] <kriminal_> no hay ningun español
[00:31] <escott> arooni-mobile, ssh for one will refuse to use your private key in such a situation
[00:31] <Logan_> !es | kriminal_
[00:32] <escott> sunitasethi, don't know the model, try it in the livecd thats what it is for
[00:32] <arooni-mobile> escott, cant i change permissions on that on a case by case basis manually?
[00:32] <arooni-mobile> chmod?
[00:32] <kriminal_> uff
[00:32] <joallard> Xorg crashes in segfault. What do I do?
[00:32] <escott> arooni-mobile, sure if you want to take a complete inventory of such files
[00:32] <sunitasethi> escott: which livecd?
[00:32] <escott> !livecd | sunitasethi
[00:33] <mrdeepuvc> hello my isp is blocking all the torrent sites pls help in insalling a proxy in the system or on the browser plz help  me
[00:34] <mrdeepuvc> hello my isp is blocking all the torrent sites pls help in insalling a proxy in the system or on the browser plz help  me
[00:35] <arooni-mobile> escott, is there a way...., to get file roller to add directories to an archive?  or another gui tool to do that?
[00:35] <sunitasethi> ubottu i do not have the cd...i install directly from the ubuntu website
[00:35] <escott> arooni-mobile, i havent used fileroller in ages. i suspect it is drag and drop but i dont really know
[00:35] <sunitasethi> escott: i do not have cd
[00:36] <sunitasethi> escott: i downloaded ubuntu from the intternet directly
[00:36] <escott> sunitasethi, it can be a usb keychain (those work better than the cds)
[00:36] <sumojim> escott: http://codepad.org/nEa8J62E
[00:36] <naryfa> sunitasethi: do you have USB key/pendrive ?
[00:36] <sunitasethi> escott: is there any other way?
[00:36] <sunitasethi> hello does anyone know how ubuntu 12.04can detect and install a driver for usb ethernet adapter?
[00:37] <arooni-mobile> escott, how does work?  when i create a new user on the the new ubuntu version, how will permissions match up?
[00:37] <escott> sumojim, ok thats not particularly helpful then. do you happen to know how your cpu was marketed? pentium? core? i5?
[00:38] <E> http://community.xianlabs.com/topic/9828-say-what-once-it-is-seen-it-cannot-be-unseen/
[00:38] <escott> arooni-mobile, if you make a tar archive the tar archive will store the owner uid (1000 if you are the admin on your ubuntu system) and when you reinstall the new user will also be 1000 so it will be your file again
[00:38] <sumojim> escott: core i7 for sure.
[00:38] <arooni-mobile> how do i check my current uid escott ?
[00:39] <escott> arooni-mobile, id
[00:39] <arooni-mobile> escott, youre right
[00:39] <escott> sumojim, probably a sandybridge
[00:40] <naryfa> escott: sumojim doesn't that thing have a builtin graphics processing? does that have to do anything with the rest?
[00:40] <escott> sumojim, unless you unboxed it yesterday in which case it might be an ivybridge. what version of ubuntu is his?
[00:40] <sumojim> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3720QM CPU @ 2.60GHz
[00:40] <AdilMoody> i have problem with OT-X080C under ubuntu 12.04 ; it can't connect, please help me
[00:40] <escott> sumojim, thats an ivy. thats the problem
[00:40] <sumojim> escott: I'm using 10.04
[00:41] <sumojim> escott: oh?
[00:41] <escott> sumojim, 12.04 should be ok, 10.04 is not going to work. but they had engineering samples in time to get the drivers for the ivy's prior to the release
[00:42] <sumojim> Ok, I'll try 12.04, hopefully that will work with our software.
[00:42] <sumojim> escott: You wouldn't have a reference for that I could show my boss would you?
[00:43] <maheanuu> Is there any way to disable the lockout/screen saver mode while watching streaming video in Ubuntu?
[00:43] <sunitasethi> escott: is there any other way to get usb ethernet adapter to work on ubuntu 12.04?
[00:43] <escott> sumojim, thats just brand spanking new hardware. they weren't even writing drivers for that 2 years ago
[00:43] <naryfa> maheanuu: that should be an option in an application you use to watch the video
[00:43] <escott> sunitasethi, depends on the chipset. have you tried the liveusb?
[00:45] <naryfa> maheanuu: here's something related
[00:45] <naryfa> http://askubuntu.com/questions/57350/disable-screensaver-while-watching-flash-videos
[00:45] <maheanuu> naryfa, I am running firefox for my browser, and I cannot find anything to stop the screen saver or the keyboard lockout from coming on after about 10 mins of no activity
[00:45] <escott> sumojim, i would recommend that you install 12.04, and run 10.04 inside virtualbox if you have some need to use software only for older releases
[00:45] <sunitasethi> escott: i do not have a udb
[00:46] <escott> sunitasethi, how do you intend to install ubuntu then?
[00:46] <maheanuu> I find myself having to relog in if the screen goes dark
[00:46] <warfaren> maheanuu: i use "caffeine" for that
[00:46] <naryfa> maheanuu: you can disable the lock itself if you need to
[00:46] <warfaren> for flash video, rignt?
[00:46] <rsumi> i'm on ubuntu 12.04 with gnome and using empathy for chat because i guess its the default but for some reason every time get a message i get 2 messages on the bottom of the screen every time someone messages me something which is super annoying. One would have the user icon and the other would have a blank icon but the same exact message. why is this?
[00:46] <sunitasethi> escott: i have ubuntu 12.04 that i installed directly from the web
[00:47] <naryfa> naryfa: but the screen will still blank out
[00:47] <escott> sunitasethi, you mean wubi?
[00:47] <sunitasethi> hello does anyone know how ubuntu 12.04can detect and install a driver for usb ethernet adapter?
[00:47] <OerHeks> AdilMoody, usb 3G sometimes need usb_modeswitch
[00:47] <sunitasethi> i have ubuntu 10.04 cd but now i updated to 12.05
[00:47] <warfaren> maheanuu: caffeine detects when flash player is running and temp disables your screensaver
[00:47] <naryfa> maheanuu: or use warfaren's option, sounds fair
[00:48] <sunitasethi> escott: i have ubuntu 10.04 but i updated to 12.04
[00:48] <Confused2012> Am I in the right place for assistance w/Ubuntu dl and install?
[00:48] <escott> Confused2012, yes
[00:48] <warfaren> it requires a bit of tweaking but once you get the hang of it it works just fine
[00:48] <maheanuu> varfaren, and  naryfa,  I have looked for months  trying to cess  out this problem and not sure.
[00:49] <naryfa> maheanuu: I used to disable lock and leave screen-turn-off at about 15 minutes, even if the screen blanked out, the most I had to do is move the mouse.
[00:49] <naryfa> maheanuu: but maybe that caffeine thing will do justice for you
[00:50] <naryfa> maheanuu: try
[00:50] <sunitasethi> escott: i have ubuntu 10.04 but i updated to 12.04
[00:50] <OerHeks> sunitasethi, oen terminal: lsusb and paste the line with your wifi device
[00:50] <escott> sunitasethi, i cant help you
[00:50] <Confused2012> I attempted to dl. Nero glitched after a nearly hour dl. Trying to burn in a different place but it appears to have eaten the dl. I can't find the icon nor does a search work
[00:50] <sumojim> escott: Thank you, you've been a great help.
[00:50] <warfaren> yeah if you want the screensaver in other cases, then caffeine is the way to go
[00:50] <OerHeks> sunitasethi, normally you need wired cable to download any addons
[00:50] <maheanuu> Right now I am watching the  aljazeera news cast and if I leave the keyboard or mouse the screen first goes dim then black and I am required to relog in in order to watch the video or activate my desktop
[00:50] <warfaren> yep same problem i had
[00:51] <sumojim> I'm 95% sure our software will be fine in 12.04.
[00:51] <sunitasethi> oerheks: i have a usb ethernet adapter that i want ubuntu 12.04 to detect but it does not..this is for wired internet
[00:51] <Confused2012> Nero tried to burn CD rather than a dvd using my dvd burner and a dvd
[00:51] <escott> Confused2012, it is a CD image
[00:51] <OerHeks> sunitasethi, open terminal:"  lsusb " and paste the line with your wifi device
[00:51] <naryfa> maheanuu: go to system settings and disable lock screen
[00:52] <sunitasethi> why doesn't ubuntu 12.04 detect the usb ?
[00:52] <maheanuu> warfaren, is cafeine a browser?
[00:52] <naryfa> maheanuu: it's an application
[00:52] <Confused2012> I don't know what it is. Last time I did this, I dl'd a program, as per instructions and burned the dvd. No prob. I followed the instructions this happened and I'm clueless.
[00:52] <Transhumanist> Well, Ubuntu 12.04 installed on my new SSD! Working like a charm now.
[00:52] <warfaren> maheanuu: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/how-do-you-use-caffeine-the-app-not-the-stimulant/
[00:53] <Confused2012> How big a flash drive would I need to dl it that way?
[00:53] <maheanuu> naryfa, chasing it down now....  bbiab
[00:53] <escott> Confused2012, the install image is just a bit over 700MB
[00:53] <sunitasethi> oerheks: i do not know the name of the usb device
[00:53] <warfaren> maheanuu: if it doesnt work right away for you, youll need to configure it
[00:54] <warfaren> maheanuu: install instructions are on the link i gave you
[00:54] <Confused2012> is there anyway to recover the DL after Nero failed to burn?
[00:54] <naryfa> maheanuu: ok
[00:54] <escott> Confused2012, open your webbrowsers downloads tool it should be listed there
[00:55] <warfaren> Confused2012: the DL? a dual layer disc? or download?
[00:55] <Confused2012> Its auto opening Nero which I'm not sure how to get it to burn a DVD. I've had probs with Nero before but not on this machine. I couldn't get it to work.
[00:56] <warfaren> Confused2012: be sure to md5 verify the iso file before burning
[00:56] <escott> Confused2012, the ubuntu.com website has screenshots with instructions for many common burning applications, nero is probably in that list
[00:57] <Confused2012> Any way to save it from Browser to Flashdrive... Nero has yet to work for me
[00:57] <warfaren> Confused2012: if youre running nero now i guess you are currently on windows? in that case i would recommend IMGBurn for burning .iso files
[00:57] <the_explorer> Ok.. did some trouble shooting . Definitely the nv driver. Installed 10.04 and as soon as I installed the driver,x failed.
[00:58] <Confused2012> will imgburn require dl'ing again?
[00:58] <Confused2012> Ubuntu that is
[00:58] <onats> hi guys
[00:58] <onats> I'm trying to run a service but i keep on getting an error that it could not write pid file in /var/run. how should i fix this? ubuntu 12.04 LTS server
[00:58] <warfaren> Confused2012: the iso file? if it checks out with md5 verification you dont need to download again
[00:59] <Confused2012> okies, I'll try that. TY
[00:59] <the_explorer> So has any one discovered a work around four the nv driver or am I better of in windows until the next release
[00:59] <warfaren> onats: and youre root when trying to start the service?
[00:59] <naryfa> onats: change permissions , but where... ask escott
[01:00] <escott> Confused2012, you might also check if there is a LUG (linux users group) in your area. they might be able to provide you with some known good install disks
[01:00] <Confused2012> TY.
[01:01] <onats> warfaren, no. the app warns me it isn't safe to run it as root. does root run the services upon startup?
[01:01] <warfaren> the_explorer: are you using the one from ubuntu restricted drivers or the one from nvidia.com?
[01:02] <escott> onats, yes root runs all services, but a good service will drop permissions and change to another user. what service is this?
[01:02] <the_explorer> Warfaren, restricted
[01:02] <warfaren> onats: alright well i suppose you may need to be root to launch it but it will actually run as a different user
[01:02] <onats> escott: its a nexus repository installed as a service
[01:02] <warfaren> the_explorer: and what hardware were you on?
[01:02] <the_explorer> Gts250. CPU is bulldozer
[01:03] <warfaren> oh im surprised it doesnt work well with the one ubuntu suggests
[01:04] <the_explorer> Warfaren I've un hooked my kvm switch and uninstalled driver reinstalling noire
[01:04] <the_explorer> Now
[01:04] <warfaren> the_explorer: have you tried the one from nvidia.com too?
[01:04] <warfaren> its typically more up to date
[01:04] <warfaren> but might not always work
[01:05] <the_explorer> Should i kill iommu warfaren?
[01:05] <peepsalot> i installed a new nvidia graphics card recently, which required me to reinstall my graphics drivers for it to work.  it worked ok for 2 days, but now when i reboot it says it has to go into low graphics mode.  i've tried reinstalling it a couple times but it's just not working now.  any ideas what i can do?
[01:05] <warfaren> the_explorer: not sure what that is sorry
[01:06] <peepsalot> i think this happened because some kernel update was made last night
[01:06] <Takyoji> Is there any way to get gnome-panel working PROPERLY on 12.04, which worked fine in prior releases? https://techsanity.us/gnome-panel.png
[01:06] <Takyoji> Note, another thing I can't do is right-click on the panels at all.
[01:06] <peepsalot> oh and it doesn't even get into low graphics mode, i have to use virtual console
[01:06] <Takyoji> Is this a known regression?
[01:06] <Takyoji> I've also reset all gnome-panel settings and everything
[01:07] <David-A> Takyoji: Alt+right-click panels in 12.04 i believe
[01:07] <Confused2012> I installed IMGBurn. Unable to get dl out of browser. Ideas?
[01:07] <warfaren> Confused2012: what browser are you using?
[01:07] <escott> Takyoji, is that really gnome-panel is is that fallback?
[01:07] <Takyoji> Doesn't seem to work in this case
[01:07] <Confused2012> FireFox
[01:07] <the_explorer> iommu is a new feature that I haven't run with ubuntu Gina try killing it in bios default
[01:08] <Takyoji> This is of trying to use "Gnome Classic"
[01:08] <Takyoji> which I've always had the problem of since the beginning of the 12.04 release
[01:08] <warfaren> Confused2012: in your download manager where you see the file, rightclick the file and press open folder
[01:08] <Confused2012> No longer an option since closing browser to install IMGBurn
[01:09] <bandit5432> Takyoji, have you tried starting it with gnome classic no effects?
[01:09] <Takyoji> Yes
[01:09] <Confused2012> The option is light, not dark, and clicking on it does nothing.
[01:09] <Takyoji> Also, the blur is from post-processing, it's not actually shown like so
[01:09] <warfaren> Confused2012: you should find download manager under tools i believe
[01:09] <Takyoji> Also, I'm using a dual monitor setup, therefore the black space on the bottom is not actually seen
[01:09] <bandit5432> Takyoji, i have seen other screens shots like that so i am looking for where i saw them
[01:09] <the_explorer> It worked. It was one of my bios settings. if anyone has issues with nv drivers  tell them to default BIOS settings
[01:09] <Confused2012> Yes, I did. I can find the file. And before closing the browser, I could open the folder. Now I can't
[01:10] <bandit5432> Takyoji, could you run wmctrl -m in a terminal and let us know what the name is
[01:10] <warfaren> Confused2012: you probably chose to open the file instead of saving it, which just saves it to a temporary folder and deletes it after you restart the browser...
[01:10] <bandit5432> Takyoji, and env | grep -i gdmsession
[01:11] <Confused2012> Than its listed but no longer there?
[01:11] <warfaren> you could try searching your entire hard drive for *.iso if you think it could be there somewhere
[01:12] <warfaren> otherwise im afraid youll have to download again
[01:12] <Takyoji> http://pastebin.com/P9qq9htk
[01:12] <Confused2012> I can try that. The DL takes an hour. BRB
[01:12] <warfaren> unless you wanna try hard drive data recovery, which i do not recommend btw
[01:12] <bandit5432> Takyoji, try logging in with gnome classic (no effects) and see what you get
[01:12] <binary> hello
[01:12] <warfaren> make sure to save it now, and not "Open"
[01:13] <binary> how is everyone?
[01:13] <Confused2012> Its gone. TYVM. Re-DL.
[01:13] <warfaren> the_explorer: sorry i hope someone else can help you though
[01:13] <Takyoji> I already have done so, but I'll just do it regardless.
[01:13] <mohamez> although i am connecteed to internet i can surf what the problem ?
[01:14] <warfaren> i need to sleep now. good luck with your peoblems everyone
[01:14] <bandit5432> Takyoji, the commands are showing you are running compiz which is gnome with effects i want to know if you can also get into gnome classic  no effects
[01:14] <sunitasethi> can anyone help please? i found my usb ethernet adapter in lsusb list but i cannot get it to work
[01:14] <binary> lol
[01:16] <Takyoji> using Metacity
[01:16] <T_9er> Hello everyone, I'm a linux newbie needing some assitance. After updating to the latest version of Ubuntu I can't get the system to boot. If I hold down shift I see the words GRUB loading and then the screen goes blank. Help please.
[01:16] <naryfa> sunitasethi: your adapter needs a driver, open Ubuntu Aditional Drivers (or something like that) in Ubuntu and see if anything is listed there
[01:16] <bandit5432> Takyoji, is it still showing up the same?
[01:16] <Takyoji>  Yes, the exact same
[01:16] <mohamez> can format i USB which is write protected ?
[01:16] <bandit5432> Takyoji, are you using the default theme or have you changed it in the past?
[01:17] <mohamez> can i format a USB which is write protected ?
[01:17] <Takyoji> Only difference is that I can right-click, and changing the panel size does nothing to the buggy rendering effect
[01:17] <gry> mohamez: maybe, i think you could try and see whether it works
[01:17] <Takyoji> I have not changed the theme, I'm certainly willing to destroy ANY GNOME 2 files as well
[01:17] <mohamez> gry how ?
[01:18] <sunitasethi> naryfa: there is no driver in additional drivers
[01:19] <bandit5432> Takyoji, hmm let me look have you tried right clicking and deleting those extra panels?
[01:19] <Takyoji> It's all one panel
[01:19] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:19] <Takyoji> the background is just being tiled
[01:19] <gry> mohamez: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17001/how-to-format-a-usb-drive-in-ubuntu-using-gparted/ seems a good guide
[01:19] <smw> has anyone noticed that playing videos in chromium crashes it on many websites?
[01:19] <Drecondius> Can someone helpe me with an installation problem before i pull out the rest of my hair?
[01:19] <naryfa> sunitasethi: I'm sorry, this is the only option I know of. Try googling for the linux driver for your type of ethernet USB
[01:19] <RealEyes> Anyone here use qbittorrent?
[01:20] <smw> !ask Drecondius
[01:20] <gry> !anyone | RealEyes
[01:20] <bandit5432> Takyoji, those extra lines are 1 panel not 6 extra?
[01:20] <Takyoji> 1 panel
[01:20] <bazhang> Drecondius, ask a real question
[01:20] <smw> !ask | Drecondius
[01:20] <RealEyes> im trying to figure out how to select which files to download from this torrent, using qbit torrent
[01:20] <Drecondius> wow bot's slow tonight lol
[01:20] <RealEyes> its trying to just download the whole thing
[01:20] <Drecondius> I'll ask as soon as i remember the problem
[01:20] <RealEyes> how do i tell qbittorrent to only download certain files?
[01:21] <smw> Drecondius, no, he seems to be at a good speed :-)
[01:21] <Takyoji> Actually I guess not
[01:21] <RealEyes> How do I tell qbittorrent to only download certain files?
[01:21] <Takyoji> Was able to manually delete each extra instance
[01:21] <gry> RealEyes: transmission has a list of files to download in the 'add torrent' window (i didn't use qbittorrent but it might have an 'advanced' button or somelike in a similar dialog)
[01:21] <RealEyes> i cant use transmission because it wont accept magnet links
[01:22] <bazhang> RealEyes, sure it does
[01:22] <T_9er> Is the best bet to use a live CD and try to repair GRUB?
[01:22] <bazhang> RealEyes, transmission does accept magnet links, no problem
[01:22] <naryfa> ok, I'll be back later, ciao for now
[01:22] <bazhang> !grub2 | T_9er have a read
[01:22] <bandit5432> Takyoji, i wonder if one of the applets you have is doing that have you tried removing the applets in the right hand corner?
[01:23] <Drecondius> OK, so After making a third Clean installation of 12.04 and still booting to a black screen following the purplish splash screen, I modified my grub with the nomodeset paramater and now grub doesn't exist, where did i goof?
[01:23] <RealEyes> ubuntu freezes on me all the time
[01:23] <RealEyes> and ive got an ssd
[01:23] <RealEyes> this is madness!
[01:23] <Takyoji> I can't quite get a "Remove from Panel" option or anything
[01:23] <bazhang> RealEyes, transmission can accept magnet links, try it
[01:24] <Drecondius> Should I have had it download and install updates during installation?
[01:24] <mohamez> gry: thank you
[01:24] <Guest14260> anyone now how to disable automatic whitelisting in pgl? ( want to test a complete blocklist with dns+lan, but peerguardian autowhitelists dns and lan).
[01:24] <bandit5432> Takyoji, look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/133647/gnome-panel-has-multiple-rows-how-to-undo-that
[01:25] <T_9er> MSG ubottu I'm checking out the troubleshooting for GURB2 right now. I'm currently burning a live cd in hopes of using the boot repair tool.
[01:25] <bandit5432> some one needs to stop rebooting servers
[01:26] <AngrySpam98> d
[01:26] <bazhang> bandit5432, its a netsplit, not rebooting servers
[01:26] <Drecondius> Can i access the boot repair from usb media? If so that might solve my issue
[01:26] <AngrySpam98> SO...my name has 3 parts (angry, spam, 98....remember that) 98...9*8 = 24 ... 2+4  = 6 (now the three parts of my name come in) 6 three times = devil's number
[01:26] <AngrySpam98> hehe
[01:27] <bandit5432> bazhang, i know it was a joke sorry was not funny
[01:27] <mohamez> what are the differences between rootkit toolkit and boot and they maening ?
[01:27] <drizzlin> actually, 666 is the number of man
[01:27] <bazhang> mohamez, how does that relate to ubuntu
[01:27] <drizzlin> learn2bible bitch
[01:27] <bazhang> drizzlin, stop cursing and stay on topic
[01:28] <RealEyes> bazhang, it allowed me to add the torrent
[01:28] <RealEyes> but its not letting me pick what to download
[01:28] <RealEyes> and what not to
[01:28] <drizzlin> what are you trying to download?
[01:28] <bazhang> RealEyes, it opens a window and lets you check (in a handy check box) what to dl and what not to
[01:28] <RealEyes> had to select properties!
[01:29] <RealEyes> bazhang, its not doing that, thats what im used to
[01:29] <RealEyes> i had to pause it
[01:29] <RealEyes> then right click
[01:29] <RealEyes> then properties
[01:29] <bandit5432> Takyoji, did you get that link i sent your way?
[01:29] <bazhang> RealEyes, then configure it to do so. it works 100% fine here
[01:29] <Drecondius> How can I repair my grub loader if I can't access repair tools from efi booting?
[01:29] <Takyoji> bandit5432: Yes
[01:29] <Takyoji> I'm just a bit unclear of what to do
[01:30] <escott> Drecondius, boot a livecd
[01:30] <bandit5432> Takyoji, you need to delete the extra instances that are listed i believe
[01:30] <Takyoji> I don't have duplicates listed (likely because I remove the panels)
[01:30] <Takyoji> removed*
[01:30] <onats> hey guys
[01:30] <RealEyes> drizzlin, im trying to get the Dragonball show
[01:30] <onats> how do i report the hostname of a static ip machine to the dns server (router)?
[01:30] <drizzlin> oh
[01:31] <bandit5432> Takyoji, hmm did you look at the defaults it has listed?
[01:31] <Drecondius> escott: let me clarify, NO option with efi booting. and if I don't efi boot I don't have network.
[01:31] <mohamez> RealEyes: you can try nyaa.eu tracker
[01:31] <escott> Drecondius, even with efi boot you should be able to boot the livecd
[01:32] <bandit5432> Takyoji, it does not list anything like 'menu-bar-0', 'indicators-0', 'show-desktop-0', 'window-list-0', 'workspace-switcher-0', 'menu-bar-1' ?
[01:32] <RealEyes> transmission keeps freezing though
[01:32] <maheanuu_> Ok, am running caffiene and the screensaver and s
[01:32] <Takyoji> I actually just reset it to the listed defaults
[01:33] <maheanuu_> log in have been eliminated, thanks for all the help I had no idea that caffiene the software existed
[01:33] <RealEyes> transmission keeps freezing x_x
[01:34] <Takyoji> Is there any way to get gnome-panel working on the second monitor (whereas it's all one X screen), or is such not really possible without having separate X screens?
[01:34] <maheanuu_> the downloader?
[01:34] <mohamez> RealEyes: one piece is cool too
[01:34] <bandit5432> Takyoji,  did you get a normal looking screen now?
[01:34] <maheanuu_> RealEyes, is that the torrent downloading proggie
[01:34] <bazhang> mohamez, please stay on topic
[01:35] <bandit5432> RealEyes, does transmission die or does it kill your connection?
[01:35] <RealEyes> its turning grey
[01:35] <RealEyes> and then lightens back up to normal
[01:35] <maheanuu_> You are in pause perchance
[01:35] <mohamez> bazhang: OK, Sorry
[01:35] <RealEyes> i think it might have to do with my HDD
[01:36] <RealEyes> writing the download to it or something
[01:36] <bandit5432> RealEyes,   did you install the new version of transmission ?
[01:36] <RealEyes> i installed it last week
[01:36] <mohamez> chek or add tracker list
[01:36] <bandit5432> RealEyes, from ppa or just regular repo?
[01:36] <RealEyes> not sure
[01:36] <RealEyes> google i think
[01:37] <Takyoji> I guess
[01:37] <bandit5432> Takyoji, i dont know about the second monitor you need to ask some one that uses 2 monitors to help you
[01:37] <RealEyes> really not liking this
[01:37] <mohamez> RealEyes: i thik utorrent is good
[01:37] <mohamez> *think
[01:38] <bandit5432> RealEyes, see if you have Transmission installed from ppa https://launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/ppa
[01:39] <RealEyes> how do i install that?
[01:40] <schultza> im back
[01:40] <bandit5432> RealEyes, click on the middle of the screen on that page where it says (Read about installing)
[01:40] <schultza> who was working on the nvidia drivers that couldnt get to a command prompt?
[01:41] <schultza> grr... different client. different commands
[01:42] <Drecondius> Ok, so I'm back again, Inside a Live environment whereas there is no option on a 12.04 disc to run a repair. Perhaps someone can help me with repairing my grub on an efi install
[01:42] <AnthonyKK> Hello could someone help me with 12.04
[01:42] <phoenix_k5> does anyone know how to get a canon laser printer working in new ubuntu?
[01:42] <Drecondius> !ask AnthonyKK
[01:42] <bazhang> AnthonyKK, ask a real question
[01:42] <schultza> phoenix_k5: what model?
[01:42] <AnthonyKK> Alright
[01:42] <AnthonyKK> How can i get steam games working?
[01:43] <AnthonyKK> at least some
[01:43] <phoenix_k5> lbp2900
[01:43] <AnthonyKK> because they crash when i try to go on a server
[01:43] <AnthonyKK> but will work in singleplayet
[01:43] <AnthonyKK> ?
[01:44] <DarwinSurvivor> AnthonyKK: which games are you trying to play and how are you playing them (wine?)
[01:44] <AnthonyKK> Ok new one
[01:44] <AnthonyKK> yes
[01:44] <Drecondius> Anybody have any advice on how to repair a botched grub install from inside a live environment?
[01:44] <AnthonyKK> wine
[01:44] <DarwinSurvivor> !grub | Drecondius
[01:44] <AnthonyKK> and counter strike, source garrys mod, killing floor.
[01:45] <DarwinSurvivor> AnthonyKK: if you are having trouble playing games in wine, your best bet is to consult the wine page for that particular game, they will have success reports and workarounds posted for most gaes
[01:45] <DarwinSurvivor> *games
[01:45] <bazhang> AnthonyKK, check the appdb
[01:45] <AnthonyKK> Alright thanks
[01:46] <bazhang> AnthonyKK, then /join #winehq for app support
[01:46] <DarwinSurvivor> !appdb
[01:46] <bazhang> AnthonyKK, ^^
[01:46] <bandit5432> the grub fixing has come a long way
[01:46] <AnthonyKK> Another, my wifi doesnt work unless i type two codes into the console then it will connect. theres a permaeffect but i didnt get it working
[01:46] <AnthonyKK> i mean terminal.
[01:46] <Drecondius> Grub still gives me a pain in the !!!
[01:47] <DarwinSurvivor> Drecondius: I've already sent you a link to how to fix it
[01:47] <bandit5432> Drecondius, read those docs that DarwinSurvivor pointed you to looks athousand times easier then it used to
[01:47] <DarwinSurvivor> !grub
[01:47] <Drecondius> I'm working on that, I'm having to use terminal, there isn't a boot repair option anymore
[01:48] <DarwinSurvivor> Drecondius: I don't think there was enough room on the live-cd to include it, but the instructions are fairly straight forward.
[01:49] <bandit5432> Drecondius, Boot-Repair can be installed & used from any Ubuntu session (normal session, or live-CD, or live-USB). PPA packages are available for Ubuntu 10.04, 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 and 12.04.
[01:49] <DarwinSurvivor> Drecondius: if you use firefox from the live-cd, you can even copy-paste a fair bit of it
[01:49] <bandit5432> rtfm!
[01:49] <xistancelaptop> Anybody know for a program that will let me monitor bandwith usage of my entire internet? I'm using iftop but it only shows me whats going on on the computer I run it on..
[01:49] <Drecondius> work in progress will update :D
[01:49] <bazhang> bandit5432, dont ever say that here
[01:50] <DarwinSurvivor> xistancelaptop: what type of router do you have?
[01:50] <bandit5432> read the funny manual is not allowed?
[01:50] <bazhang> bandit5432, and dont recommend PPa as a first choice
[01:50] <xistancelaptop> DarwinSurvivor DIR-825.. I think
[01:50] <bazhang> bandit5432, if you want to remain in the channel, NO
[01:50] <DarwinSurvivor> bazhang: agree on both points
[01:50] <xistancelaptop> DarwinSurvivor: But I would like to see with a graph through terminal or some kind of GUI, not through the webpage
[01:50] <bandit5432> the ppa i pointed him to is for stable releases only
[01:51] <sunitasethi> sorry was dcc'ed
[01:51] <bazhang> bandit5432, PPA are not supported, why recommend that first? in short, you Don't
[01:51] <schultza> sigh
[01:51] <bandit5432> sorry i forget all the rules when i join here
[01:51] <bazhang> bandit5432, time to re-learn them
[01:51] <bazhang> !guidelines > bandit5432
[01:52] <DarwinSurvivor> xistancelaptop: monitoring bandwidth (without VERY special tools) should be done by the machine all the traffic goes through (in your case, the router)
[01:52] <moes> Ubuntu-10.04.../dev/sda unallocated partition table unrecognized...error from cf sda bad primary partition 1: partition ends in the final parted cyclinder...any fix without having to build new partitions ??
[01:52] <DarwinSurvivor> xistancelaptop: if you don't like the web-interface of the router, and are fairly comfortable with flashing, cli and ssh, you can probably put dd-wrt, tomato or openwrt on it and check the bandwidth over ssh
[01:52] <xistancelaptop> DarwinSurvivor: The localhost webpage GUI is terrible for viewing
[01:53] <viktor> ...
[01:53] <DarwinSurvivor> xistancelaptop: localhost? you mean the router's ip?
[01:53] <xistancelaptop> DarwinSurvivor: I don't think tomato has released a firmware for my router, and yeah
[01:53] <DarwinSurvivor> xistancelaptop: dd-wrt (which I use) has very good support for most routers, you can give that one a try
[01:53] <bandit5432> i see the part about rtfm but not about ppa
[01:53] <sbattey> Attempting to modify images using word presses header uploader on an ubuntu server with suphp installed. Uploaded images have their permissions set to 600 when modified with GD, instead of 644…whats going on?
[01:54] <bazhang> !ppa > bandit5432
[01:54] <bandit5432> needs to be added to the code of conduct page then
[01:54] <xistancelaptop> DarwinSurvivor: I'm going to go install that now :) Thought Tomato was the only firmware out there that did what it does
[01:54] <Drecondius> going the shortcut route for now
[01:55] <Sir_Konrad> Ohai.
[01:55] <bandit5432> even the link that DarwinSurvivor  pointed him to on grub says to install boot-repair from ppa
[01:55] <DarwinSurvivor> xistancelaptop: make sure you flash from a wired connection!
[01:56] <sbattey> I am having issues with a test environment. I am attempting to modify an image with word presses header uploader, but the image permissions are ending up as 600 instead of 644 like they're supposed to be. This is under ubuntu and I am also running suphp
[01:56] <Drecondius> So, ran the boot repair tool and it gave me http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002269/
[01:57] <Sir_Konrad> Sorry fixed my auto away system.
[01:58] <Etale> Hi fellas. I'm in the Ubuntu installation now. I have a 376GB of nothingness (alongside 98GB of Windows). I want to create a dual boot. Out of the nothing partition I'm adding a 90GB Linux partition. What should I put as mount point?
[01:59] <Sir_Konrad> Etale, /
[01:59] <Drecondius> I fear i shall return momentarily in utter defefat. Wish me luck :)
[01:59] <Etale> Sir_Konrad, and my storage partition?
[02:00] <Sir_Konrad> You want another partition along the Linux one for your stuff?
[02:00] <Etale> Yes, an NTFS partition shared by windows and linux.
[02:00] <Sir_Konrad> Nothing then. Just make it the file system you want and the system will take care of the mounting stuff.
[02:00] <DarwinSurvivor> Etale: are you trying to figure out where to mount the windows partition?
[02:00] <maheanuu_> naryfa, warfaren, thank both of you for your kind help, I am totally free of the stopping of video or having to log in after lieaving my machine quiescent for about 10 minutes
[02:01] <Etale> Oh, wait. I don't see an NTFS option...
[02:01] <Sir_Konrad> Etale: Are you in the installation?
[02:01] <Etale> DarwinSurvivor, no my windows is already installed.
[02:01] <Sir_Konrad> Yeah you won't in the install. =P
[02:01] <Etale> Sir_Konrad, yes.
[02:01] <Etale> Sir_Konrad, I guess I should use gparted?
[02:02] <moes> Ubuntu-10.04.../dev/sda unallocated partition table unrecognized...error from cf sda bad primary partition 1: partition ends in the final parted cyclinder...any fix without having to build new partitions ??
[02:02] <Untitled_only> sup room
[02:02] <Sir_Konrad> Etale, I'm not keen on gparted and if it'll let you make an NTFS partition, but maybe you could use FAT32?
[02:02] <Etale> Why not? I would prefer NTFS...
[02:02] <Etale> Hmm... Maybe I can do that from within windows?
[02:03] <Sir_Konrad> Yeah you could. That's what I would do.
[02:03] <Etale> Good.
[02:03] <Etale> That's a plan.
[02:03] <sbattey> anyone know anything about suphp and umask?
[02:03] <Sir_Konrad> Go for it bro. ;P
[02:03] <Etale> And then afterwards, what would the mount point of the storage partition be?
[02:03] <Etale> *should
[02:04] <Sir_Konrad> Etale: Ubuntu will handle that when you reboot. It'll probably end up being something like /dev/sda2
[02:04] <DarwinSurvivor> Sir_Konrad: that's not a mountpoint, that's a device location.
[02:04] <sunitasethi> anyone know how i can get a driver for Bus 002 Device 018: ID 067c:1001 Efficient Networks, Inc. Siemens SpeedStream 100MBps Ethernet
[02:04] <sunitasethi> ?
[02:04] <DarwinSurvivor> Etale: it will be something in /media/ (the directory will probably be named after the partition's name)
[02:05] <Sir_Konrad> DarwinSurvivor: Ok, I'm mistaken. Sorry! =\
[02:06] <Etale> DarwinSurvivor, so under mount point should I say "\mount\" or "\mount\name_I_make_up\"?
[02:06] <Sir_Konrad> Hey guys gotta run. Talk later.
[02:06] <Prodigal> how do you back up only the .docs .xls .jpg   etc....out of windows into an ubuntu partition
[02:06] <DarwinSurvivor> Etale: you can specify one if you really want to, but ubuntu will auto-mount it the first time to you try to access it via nautilus
[02:07] <Drecondius> as if it weren't already a kick in the groin, I am re-installing and my persistance isn't working :(
[02:07] <Etale> Okay.
[02:07] <DarwinSurvivor> Etale: the only time you really need it premounted by fstab is if you need it to be accessible outside your desktop environment (cron jobs, apache, etc)
[02:08] <Etale> What does "allocation unit size" mean? Windows is asking me to specify this when I'm trying to create the NTFS partition.
[02:09] <Etale> And should I "enable file and folder compression"?
[02:09] <Hoyt> hi
[02:09] <Hoyt>  /my and /my/myblog/blog-detail.html funtions , now I want to redirect /my/myblog/[0-9]+ to /my/myblog/blog-detail.html
[02:10] <Hoyt> but , /my/myblog/[0-9]+ raises 404 error
[02:10] <Drecondius> Etale: are you formatting a drive for windows?
[02:10] <Aprel> Etale: I think that's how big you want each "chunk" of the fs to be. A larger number is porb more efficient on a larger hdd, but may waste more space, partic. with samll files. Does windows recommend somthing?
[02:10] <Drecondius> Default allocation size is 4096
[02:10] <Etale> Drecondius, no. Windows is already installed. I'm creating an NTFS partition via windows, to be shared with Ubuntu.
[02:11] <Aprel> I wouldn't bother with file and folder compression unless you've got a powerful processor and a stingy hdd
[02:11] <Etale> Aprel, it just says default, but doesn't specify what that is.
[02:11] <Etale> I guess I'll do that.
[02:11] <Hoyt> Drecondius: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1648394
[02:12] <Etale> Done!
[02:12] <Etale> Back to Ubuntu installation.
[02:14] <Drecondius> Cross my fingers and hope for Pepsi here i go to try to boot back into yet another clean install, I'm starting to think ubuntu doesn't like GUID file tables
[02:17] <iandalton> My drive just failed, so I swapped it with my backup, but I didn't realize GRUB hard-coded the other drive's UUID. How do I replace UUID with simple drive number?
[02:18] <bazhang> !blkid | iandalton
[02:19] <iandalton> bazhang: I can't boot, so that's not very useful
[02:20] <bazhang> iandalton, better to say that in your initial question then, the more details the better the troubleshooting advice
[02:20] <iandalton> sorry
[02:21] <iandalton> I'm trying to see if GRUB's search feature will work, but so far I can't figure it out. I tried search --file --set /boot/vmlinuz, but I get "error: no argument specified"
[02:21] <Guest2605> 中文也可以？
[02:22] <bazhang> Guest2605, #ubuntu-cn
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo | iandalton
[02:22] <cclove> Guest2605: #ubuntu-cn
[02:22] <Tangiera> is linux (ubuntu) popular in china?
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> Tangiera, how would we know?
[02:23] <cclove> popular in some place
[02:23] <Tangiera> there are apparently chatters here who are chinese
[02:23] <iandalton> bazhang: again, I can't boot
[02:23] <iandalton> err, wilee-nilee not bazhang
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> Tangiera, it is off topic none the less.
[02:23] <cclove> most of people didn't know what is linux in china
[02:23] <bazhang> Tangiera, thats not an ubuntu support issue, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> iandalton, read the bot prompt you would use a live ubuntu cd.
[02:25] <iandalton> wilee-nilee: ah, got it
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> iandalton, cool
[02:25] <iandalton> I don't have one. Tomorrow I can burn one, and recover my system, but I am trying to figure out GRUB meanwhile
[02:26] <iandalton> I better give my roommate back his laptop now. Thx
[02:30] <manadys> has anyone seen any performance issues on ubuntu when trying to host a website on a non-standard port?
[02:32] <zykotick9> manadys: and if you use port 80 it's normal?  seems odd.
[02:33] <manadys> zykotick9: exactly
[02:33] <cs378> hello
[02:33] <manadys> http://pastebin.com/T86b4Wge this was from the server itself
[02:34] <manadys> when going to localhost port 3000 no issues, but as soon as an IP was involved there were issues
[02:34] <Drecondius> Grub problem fixed : Check. Now X is nowhere to be found :( Any Ideas as to why?
[02:34] <Drecondius> I can't find the forum with a similar issue
[02:35] <manadys> I adjusted it to give precedence to ipv4 in gai.conf and that resolved that issue, but outside computers are still taking 25 seconds to load a static page (was previously 45 seconds so the precedence on ipv4 helped slightly)
[02:36] <Drecondius> Ubuntu loads fine, makes it to the spalsh screen, and when the Xserver is supposed to start it drops to a terminal style interface
[02:36] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[02:36] <mattwj2002> how does the ubuntu cloud work?
[02:37] <mattwj2002> is it like a computer cluster?
[02:37] <Drecondius> mattwj2002 when you sign up to the forums you have clout access, it creates a watch folder in your home folder that you can drag and drop files to upload to the cloud
[02:37] <Drecondius> more like off comp storage
[02:38] <mattwj2002> what about the cloud server stuff?
[02:38] <mattwj2002> the one hour free thing
[02:38] <Drecondius> *shrugs*
[02:38] <mattwj2002> I am trying to get my brain around it
[02:38] <mattwj2002> :)
[02:38]  * zykotick9 fears the fog... err cloud
[02:38] <bazhang> mattwj2002, ubuntu one?
[02:39] <mattwj2002> nope
[02:39] <Drecondius> I'm just coming back to ubuntu after a 2 year hiatus so .....
[02:39] <bazhang> mattwj2002, try #ubuntuone
[02:39] <mattwj2002> http://cloud.ubuntu.com/
[02:40] <escott> manadys, and its not the router prioritizing port 80
[02:40] <InferiorHuman> can someone please help me, I want to run folding @ home in a screen so I can view the details of my upstairs computer ( I have looked @ the manual but im getting no where )
[02:40] <InferiorHuman> on my upstairs computer that is.
[02:41] <zykotick9> InferiorHuman: is folding@home a cli program?
[02:41] <InferiorHuman> zykotick9, yea
[02:41] <escott> InferiorHuman, screen -dmS folding ./foldingathome
[02:41] <mattwj2002> ubuntu one is something different
[02:41] <mattwj2002> that is like the Amazon cloud
[02:41] <mattwj2002> player
[02:42] <InferiorHuman> escott, alright then how do I resume it??
[02:42] <zykotick9> InferiorHuman: "screen -r" if you only have one screen instance should work
[02:42] <escott> InferiorHuman, screen -D -RR folding (the -RR steals it if someone else has it)
[02:43] <zykotick9> InferiorHuman: "screen -ls" if you have multiple
[02:43] <etyrnal> if i'm running ubuntu 11.04, and update manager is offering 11.10, and i accept, what will that blow to pieces, and what will be still functional after the smoke clears?
[02:43] <InferiorHuman>         4372.4027       (05/22/2012 10:33:51 PM)        (Attached)
[02:43] <InferiorHuman>         4027.3816       (05/22/2012 10:30:06 PM)        (Attached)
[02:43] <InferiorHuman>         3816.pts-8.Media        (05/22/2012 10:27:08 PM)        (Attached
[02:43] <InferiorHuman> but its not working when i type any of those with screen -r and the numbers
[02:43] <Confused2012> Second DL burned since I uninstalled Nero. However, computer says it doesn't have 4.4 gigs to install. Its an 80 gig hd with minimal on it.
[02:43] <Confused2012> Windows, Libre, open, minimal files
[02:44] <escott> Confused2012, what is saying it doesn't have 4.4GB?
[02:44] <zykotick9> InferiorHuman: you Attached to all of them.  do you know how to detach?  ctrl+a then d or "ctrl+a+d"
[02:44] <InferiorHuman> when i type screen in ssh it returns to command prompt though im not seeing the screen window anymore
[02:44] <escott> InferiorHuman, that starts a new screen session
[02:45] <zykotick9> InferiorHuman: to re-attach to screen "screen -rd 4372" should reconnect to the 1st one you have listed
[02:45] <InferiorHuman> nothing happens if I hit ctrl+a+d from the ssh window
[02:45] <InferiorHuman> see im very confused
[02:45] <zykotick9> InferiorHuman: you need to be inside the screen session - then use the ctrl+a+d
[02:45] <InferiorHuman> idk what this means, be inside the screen session
[02:46] <KingKatari> How do i fix a task leak as it is causing tasks that are <defunct>
[02:46] <KingKatari> i am running ubuntu 11.10
[02:46] <Confused2012> Best I can tell, that's what it means. Not enough memory. Not possible.
[02:46] <zykotick9> InferiorHuman: as an example, type "screen" then ctrl+a+d and it should say detached and kick you back to before you typed "screen"
[02:46] <escott> InferiorHuman, compare "env | grep screen"
[02:46] <mouche> vlt: still looking to remove 'logout' from the session menu?
[02:46] <escott> InferiorHuman, or just echo $TERM
[02:47] <InferiorHuman> escott, says xterm
[02:47] <escott> InferiorHuman, then you are not in a screen session
[02:47] <InferiorHuman> ok so now it works im in the main screen "screen"
[02:48] <InferiorHuman> i hit ctrl+a+d to detach from what...?
[02:48] <zykotick9> escott: i didn't know "echo $TERM" would give different result in screen, good to know - thanks.
[02:48] <escott> InferiorHuman, to detach that screen session. it keeps running but you drop back to your ssh shell
[02:48] <escott> zykotick9, TERMCAP is also different
[02:48] <KingKatari> i am running ubuntu 11.10 server, How do i fix a task leak as it is causing tasks that are <defunct>
[02:48] <InferiorHuman> ok it still says I have 6 screens running how do I resume them...
[02:48] <Confused2012> escott, if you posted a response, I missed it.
[02:49] <escott> Confused2012, i was asking where are you getting this 4.4gb message. did you boot the install cd?
[02:49] <etyrnal> anyone?  bueler?
[02:49] <etyrnal> fry?
[02:49] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[02:49] <jrib> !helpme | etyrnal
[02:50] <sjd_zeus> hi all
[02:50] <manadys> escott: the PC is on the same subnet as the server
[02:50] <escott> InferiorHuman, screen -r PID.NAME (that last bit just needs to be something to identify uniquely the screen you want to resume)
[02:51] <manadys> the router is only involved as a WAP (at least I hope)
[02:51] <escott> manadys, its possible there is some kernel config option maybe in /sys but ive not heard of it
[02:51] <etyrnal>  if i'm running ubuntu 11.04, and update manager is offering release 11.10, and i choose to accept, what, on this system will that blow to pieces, and what can i expect to still be functional after the smoke clears?
[02:51] <escott> manadys, and it should only matter if there is other traffic competing for priority
[02:51] <Confused2012> IRC went screwy. Uhm, I inserted DVD into comp that won't boot windows do to a corrupted file. The "Preparing to Install Unbutu" screen shows its conntected to the internet but doesn't have 4.4 gigs free. Its an 80 gig hd
[02:52] <eddy_> Hi, everyone. Why does 12.04 drops oprofile support?
[02:52] <jrib> etyrnal: you'll have your system with 11.10, read the release notes for any issues that you should know about
[02:52] <escott> etyrnal, (a) we don't know (b) we don't know -- hopefully nothing
[02:52] <jrib> !notes | etyrnal
[02:52] <mouche> InferiorHuman: when you create a session, you can name it with the -S <name> option so it's easier to pick which one to attach.
[02:52] <InferiorHuman> yea if i do screen -dmS folding ~/folding/fah
[02:53] <InferiorHuman> none of them say folding in screen -ls
[02:53] <InferiorHuman> .....
[02:53] <jrib> etyrnal: here are the 11.10 notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes
[02:53] <etyrnal> will a release upgrade break currently installed software, custom configurations etc?
[02:53] <escott> Confused2012, you would have to shrink the windows partition. if there is corruption on the windows (and you intend to keep the windows or keep its data) i would STRONGLY recommend booting a windows rescue CD and fixing the corruption PRIOR to resizing the partition
[02:53] <jrib> etyrnal: it should not
[02:53] <trism> eddy_: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653168
[02:53] <InferiorHuman> i realize you guys have probably already told me what to do but im still confused
[02:53] <etyrnal> i have a lot of experience with linux and ubuntu -- just NONE with doing a release upgrade
[02:54] <Confused2012> Tried to rescue the Windows. My program dies. Won't even analysize. Windows is toast.
[02:54] <escott> InferiorHuman, if fah terminated the screen session would close. perhaps fah never got started?
[02:54] <jrib> etyrnal: well you should have backups but you should always have backups, not just when upgrading
[02:54] <InferiorHuman> escott, but why if i do ~/folding/fah the program works
[02:54] <escott> InferiorHuman, the use of ~ might be problematic there. try it with a full path
[02:54] <InferiorHuman> can you tell me exactly what to type
[02:54] <InferiorHuman> ok
[02:54] <KingKatari> i am running ubuntu 11.10 server, How do i fix a task leak as it is causing tasks that are <defunct>
[02:54] <windbuntu> what is your goal now Confused2012
[02:54] <dasKreech> Hello does anyone have any knowledge of USB drivers?
[02:55] <InferiorHuman> escott, hrmm... screen -dmS /home/x/folding/fah is not working either that IS where the executable is tho
[02:55] <InferiorHuman> and it works fine
[02:55] <etyrnal> jrib, i agree...  there's no irreplaceable data on it...  just long hours of installing apps for the kids
[02:55] <escott> Confused2012, you could delete the windows partition, but you would lose all data on the computer
[02:55] <dasKreech> I have someone who has a Siemens USB Ethernet device that wasn't being recognized. I've got the driver loaded so the device is recognized now but it is in a loop connecting to the network
[02:55] <Confused2012> can I partition with Linux booted off DVD rather than installed?
[02:55] <ahmad> hii
[02:56] <escott> InferiorHuman, does fah require any environment variables?
[02:56] <Confused2012> I've done this before. I'm not understanding why its not working.
[02:56] <Aprel> KingKatari: if you don't get a responce here, try asking on #ubuntu-server
[02:56] <InferiorHuman> escott, wait I was wrong. if i run fah from the dir it works. but if I type the full path I get this...
[02:56] <InferiorHuman> /home/x/folding/fah: line 1: ./fah6: No such file or directory
[02:56] <windbuntu> what is your goal now Confused2012 what do you want to end up with?
[02:56] <InferiorHuman> escott, fah6 is in the same dir however...
[02:57] <escott> InferiorHuman, screen -dmS folding /home/x/folding/fah (the first folding is the name of the screen session
[02:57] <Confused2012> Ideally, access to the harddrive so I can figure out what went wrong without having to get out the Enclosure and boot it from this comp
[02:57] <Confused2012> boot wrong word
[02:57] <dasKreech> alternatively does anyone know about debugging an ethernet connection ?
[02:58] <Confused2012> depends on the connection problem
[02:58] <escott> InferiorHuman, its likely a path issue. you probably added /home/x/folding to your path or something
[02:58] <InferiorHuman> how did I do that ?
[02:58] <tureco> en español quien?
[02:58] <InferiorHuman> and how do I fix
[02:58] <bazhang> tureco, #ubuntu-es
[02:58] <windbuntu> do you want to rescue files from a messed up windows os?
[02:59] <escott> Confused2012, you can go to the livecd (try ubuntu now instead of install ubuntu) and maybe access files (unless the ntfs is too corrupted to even read
[02:59] <Confused2012> I'm looking at options now. Its been a long time since I used Linux
[03:00] <escott> !es | tureco
[03:01] <led-bandit> you can also fix some corrupted ntfs disks with sudo ntfsfix /dev/<device name>
[03:01] <tureco> join #ubuntu-es
[03:01] <InferiorHuman> eh forget it.
[03:01] <led-bandit> from them  ntfsprogs package
[03:01] <Confused2012> Where is the user interface to review the hardware function?
[03:02] <tureco> Gracias a los panitas que respondieron.
[03:02] <escott> Confused2012, its called the disk utility
[03:02] <Confused2012> And I can't find the button I used to access it from
[03:02] <dasKreech> does anyone have any knowledge of USB drivers?
[03:02] <dasKreech> Or associating a device to a driver?
[03:03] <windbuntu> Confused2012, if malware is invloved, you can boot ubuntu, download avast, avg, or just use ubuntu's clam av, and scan the windows dirve from ubuntu.
[03:03] <windbuntu> most folks avast works best for this procedure.
[03:03] <windbuntu> say*
[03:04] <bohemian9485> !hardinfo
[03:04] <bohemian9485> !info hardinfo
[03:04] <InferiorHuman> escott, when i do any program with screen -dmS name program it doesn't work or show up
[03:04] <invisiblek> anyone have a preferred method of tweeting from the command line on 12.04? ive tried python-twitter and twyt and neither seem to work anymore
[03:05] <led-bandit> IdleOne, what you talking about I have a great attitude :P
[03:05] <escott> InferiorHuman, try "screen -dmS test sleep 20; screen -ls"
[03:05] <InferiorHuman> wait htop works....
[03:06] <escott> InferiorHuman, because htop doesn't exit until you tell it to
[03:06] <InferiorHuman> escott, ok i think i got the hang of it. but how do i fix the path problem for fah the file is where it should be ... but it doesnt find it
[03:07] <Confused2012> This set up is different. I am unable to figure out how to access the hard drive.
[03:07] <Confused2012> I have the Computer open but not seeing what to click on
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[03:07] <escott> InferiorHuman, modify the fah bash script to have a full path to fah6
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt - mountit by hand where you want
[03:07] <InferiorHuman> escott, ok thanks
[03:08] <newba> hi guys, how can i convert an int to a const char *? C please =D
[03:08] <escott> newba, cast it
[03:08] <arooni-mobile__> hi folks; having trouble installing any packages:  https://gist.github.com/2773047
[03:08] <newba> escott but how?
[03:08] <arooni-mobile__> ubuntu 12.04
[03:08] <Logan_> arooni-mobile__: You need to be more specific than that.
[03:09] <newba> escott: (const char *) dont run...
[03:09] <Logan_> arooni-mobile__: Oh, sorry, I didn't see the link.
[03:09] <tureco> i can't join to #ubuntu-es
[03:09] <escott> newba, i think: (const char *) &intvar. this is really offtopic for this channel
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> i rember why i never bothered to learn C ;)
[03:09] <tureco> this is my first time
[03:09] <newba> escott: why & before intvar? :)
[03:10] <newba> escott: do you know?
[03:10] <escott> newba, because you wanted a pointer. this is really not a safe thing to do. endianness would probably make this platform dependent
[03:11] <newba> escott: fine
[03:11] <newba> escott: thanks man
[03:11] <InferiorHuman> escott, i changed it to /home/x/folding/fah6 -smp -verbosity 9  &
[03:11] <InferiorHuman> instead of fah6 blah blah
[03:11] <InferiorHuman> but it still wont work
[03:11] <newba> Dr_Willis: C is a beautfull language =C
[03:11] <escott> newba, unless you wanted to treat the value of the integer as the memory address of the const char * in which case drop the dereferencing operator
[03:12] <Confused2012> The controls I used in the previous version aren't there. Is there some way to access the hard drive through the DVD version. I can't install.
[03:12] <Confused2012> I am trying to figure out why I can't install.
[03:13] <escott> InferiorHuman, im not familiar with that program. examine your environment "env | grep fold" and see what it needs to run properly. check the readme for fah
[03:13] <newba> escott: i want to use in getaddinfo function, where the secound argument, service i received as a int by another function...
[03:13] <newba> escott: ops, getaddrinfo
[03:13] <InferiorHuman> escott, i can just do
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> Confused2012:  you may need to lcarify the whole problem to the channel.  You are saying that installer cant see the hard drive? or are you trying to access it from the live cd?
[03:14] <InferiorHuman> escott, screen -dmS /home/x/folding/fah6 and the options
[03:14] <InferiorHuman> escott, and it works, thanks so much for all the help!!!
[03:14] <escott> InferiorHuman, -S needs a name for the session
[03:14] <Confused2012> I am access Ubuntu through the burned DVD. I cannot install. I also can't figure out where the controls are that I understand.
[03:14] <InferiorHuman> yea i named it folding forgot to type it there
[03:14] <escott> InferiorHuman, i wonder if they didn't put a shebang at the top of the fah script
[03:14] <InferiorHuman> shebang ?
[03:15] <dasKreech> anyone have any experience debugging Network Manager?
[03:15] <escott> InferiorHuman, #!
[03:15] <InferiorHuman> yea there isnt one
[03:15] <dasKreech> InferiorHuman: #!
[03:15] <InferiorHuman> if i add that will it work?
[03:15] <escott> InferiorHuman, stupid scientists
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> Confused2012:  that statement seems.. odd.  You mean you are trying to INSTALL ubuntu from a dvd? Im not  sure what  you mean by controls
[03:15] <escott> InferiorHuman, all their fancy PhDs and they can't do a simple shebang
[03:16] <escott> InferiorHuman, add #!/bin/bash to the top of fah and it should work fine
[03:16] <Confused2012> I am running Ubuntu off a DVD. Its different from the last version I had. I can't figure out how to access my hard drive. Nor do I understand why its not working as I had no trouble installing last time.
[03:16] <escott> Dr_Willis, i think Confused2012 means "what happened to gnome"
[03:16] <InferiorHuman> i added #! to the top
[03:17] <InferiorHuman> escott, still doesnt work lol with the "shebang" and shebang is hilarious btw
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> escott:   at this time any guess is possible. ;)
[03:17] <escott> Confused2012, hit the windows key and type in a keyword for the program you want to run. like "disk" or "partition"
[03:17] <escott> InferiorHuman, #!/bin/bash at the top and it doesnt work?
[03:17] <InferiorHuman> oh... #1/bin/bash
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> isent there some 'getting started with unity' site with videos and docs . i recall seeing one in the works a few mo back
[03:17] <InferiorHuman> i just had #!
[03:18] <Confused2012> Let me go back to the Gnome part. Has Ubuntu been completely rewritten since last year?
[03:18] <escott> InferiorHuman, #! tells the kernel "execute this with the following program" so in some cases it is #!/bin/python or #!/bin/perl etc
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> Confused2012:  gnome2 is basically dead. gnome3 is the new gnome
[03:18] <Hilikus> where are permissions for process priority and niceness set? i'm getting some warnings in syslog about pulseaudio not having permission for high priority
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> Confused2012:  so . basically yes..
[03:18] <blackmatrix_ny> hi all...I was reading about the DNS changer exploit on the router and I was wondering if a spyware can add a trusted certificate authority to my list of authorities without root access
[03:18] <escott> Hilikus, it would have to run as root to go to realtime
[03:18] <Confused2012> Okay. So Gnome3 means I can't use Ubuntu to check my hard drive?
[03:19] <Hilikus> May 22 23:16:36 hilikus pulseaudio[19253]: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
[03:19] <Hilikus> May 22 23:16:36 hilikus pulseaudio[19253]: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
[03:19] <Hilikus> May 22 23:16:36 hilikus pulseaudio[19253]: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Failed to acquire high-priority scheduling: Permission denied
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> Confused2012:  that has nothbing to do with 'checking' your hard drive, Ubuntu can still do all the tasks it could befor
[03:19] <Hilikus> escott: i don't think so, in my desktop it's fine, with very low niceness and high priority and it's not root
[03:19] <Drecondius> HELP Xserver refuses to start after a clean 12.04 install.
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> Confused2012:  im not sure aht you mean by 'checking'  You mean accessing? ie: reading files from it?
[03:19] <escott> Hilikus, http://superuser.com/questions/40429/how-do-i-run-pulseaudio-with-realtime-priority-in-ubuntu-9-04
[03:19] <Confused2012> Except it can't do them in a manner I understand. That's the wall I'm trying to climb.
[03:19] <InferiorHuman> escott, idk dude I have #!/bin/bash at the top the cmd on the next line still doesn't work haha
[03:19] <pibarnas> Confused2012: mate's a fork of gnome2.
[03:20] <Toph2> when I went from Gnome 2 to Gnome3, I saw no difference,, are there significant visible differences?
[03:20] <InferiorHuman> #!/bin/bash
[03:20] <InferiorHuman> /home/x/folding/fah6 -smp -verbosity 9  &
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> Confused2012:  try mounting it by hand.. see ifyou can access it that way
[03:20] <mattwj2002> what is openstack/
[03:20] <Confused2012> Yes, I want to access the hard drive files. 80 gig hd. Not using 80 gigs. Ubuntu won't install cause it doesn't have memory except it does.
[03:20] <mattwj2002> openstack?
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> i have no issues accessing my half dozen hard drives from Ubun tu 12.04
[03:20] <InferiorHuman> escott, nothing shows up in screen
[03:20] <Hilikus> escott: i think that's something else. that needs kernel modules. i only want high priority, no real time modules
[03:20] <escott> InferiorHuman, since they couldn't get their shebangs in there I wouldn't worry too much. they probably did something else stupid. not sure what though
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> Confused2012:  you say 'memory' when you mean 'drive space' ?
[03:21] <InferiorHuman> escott, ill just type the whole command I guess its no problem
[03:21] <InferiorHuman> escott, ill alias it in bash_aliases to "folding"
[03:21] <InferiorHuman> to make it easier
[03:21] <Drecondius> Anybody out there have an issue with Xserver not starting after clean install? I get the Ubuntu Splash screen then it drops to a tty1 CLI
[03:21] <randomDude> for anyone having problems with 12.04 ldap authenticated clients not completely loading a desktop environment after logging in : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-core/+bug/870874/comments/5
[03:21] <Confused2012> my hd have empty space that is not in use in excess of 4.4 gigs. I managed to do this last time with a hard drive in bad condition. This makes no sense
[03:22] <randomDude> it's not specific to nfs mounted homes.
[03:22] <arooni-mobile__> hi folks; recently upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04;  here is my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002316/ ... but now when i try to move over apt selectoins from one box to another i'm stuck:  https://gist.github.com/2773094 ... ideas?
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> Confused2012:  a lot of what you are saying  makes no sense. What isyour native language?
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> 4.4 gb is barely enought space to  install ubuntu onto.
[03:23] <Confused2012> English. Right now I'm making perfect sense to me. 80 gig hard drive. Most unused. Can't install Ubuntu needing 4.4 gigs.
[03:24] <Drecondius> Confused2012: Is that space unpartitioned?
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> Confused2012:  check your partition layout. If you cant make any more partitons. it dosent matter how much free space the hard drive has.
[03:24] <escott> Confused2012, perhaps an older version of ubuntu fit within 4.4GB of free disk space, but not the modern ubuntu
[03:24] <InferiorHuman> escott, thanks alot for your help bro i got it working now.
[03:24] <Confused2012> I can't check anything. The controls I understand aren't there. This is what I have said repeatedly.
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> controls? meaning what exactly...
[03:24] <escott> Confused2012, hit the windows key and type some keyword like "partition" or "disk"
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> The unity gui is not that hard to figure out...
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> or fallback and use the terminal
[03:25] <arooni-mobile> can anyone help me
[03:25] <Confused2012> It is when the controls I know aren't there.
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> Confused2012:  we dont really know what you mean by 'controls'
[03:25] <escott> Confused2012, have you attempted what i told you to do?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> so we are guessing  at about 75% of what you are saying
[03:26] <Confused2012> The Ubuntu version I used last year ain't this wannabee I don't know how to use
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> !unity
[03:26] <airlynx> Is there a repository for 12.04 that would contain older kernels that I could try?  I'm having problems with a certain device that worked before an upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 and I just want to experiment
[03:26] <escott> airlynx, you could probably select your old kernel from the boot menu
[03:27] <Confused2012> Thank you for helping with the DL. Wish it was something I could actually use.
[03:27] <airlynx> escott: I did a full reformat during install, the older kernel isn't available anymore
[03:27] <escott> !kernel | airlynx
[03:27]  * Dr_Willis sends him the bill
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> even my wife figured out unity...
[03:29] <airlynx> escott: I understand this, I've had certain hardware issues in the past that were fixed by a kernel upgrade (e.g. M-Audio Fast Track Ultra doesn't work pre 2.6) but when I upgraded my Plantronics USB Headset now crashes my whole system which I've been trying to fix
[03:30] <InferiorHuman> escott, how can I detach a GUI window
[03:30] <InferiorHuman> lke run a gui window in screen to keep it open but be able to detach it??
[03:30] <escott> InferiorHuman, thats not so easily done. you would have to run something like xnest
[03:30] <Aprel> Dr_Willis: lolz
[03:31] <InferiorHuman> escott, ok no problem I can just use sensors instead of xsensors then ;-P
[03:32] <LinuX2half> How do I assign keys for certain task?
[03:32] <LinuX2half> Like pressing F1 will increase the volume.
[03:32] <h00k> LinuX2half: System Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcut tab
[03:33] <dasKreech> Anyone can help with a networking issue?
[03:33] <h00k> LinuX2half: you can open it from the cog in the upper right, near your username
[03:35] <Hilikus> where are permissions for process priority and niceness set? i'm getting some warnings in syslog about pulseaudio not having permission for high priority
[03:36] <dsf900> Hilikus: what are you trying to do?
[03:36] <Hilikus> give higher priority/lower nicessness to pulseaudio
[03:36] <Hilikus> dsf900:  this is what i get in syslog May 22 23:16:36 hilikus pulseaudio[19253]: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Failed to acquire high-priority scheduling: Permission denied
[03:37] <dsf900> I haven't used the pulseaudio stuff very much
[03:37] <Hilikus> i'm running pulse as a user
[03:37] <dsf900> it sounds like the program is trying to promote itself
[03:37] <dsf900> So you should be able to just run it under an account with higher access
[03:37] <Hilikus> dsf900: do you know in general, where is the limit for nicessness for a process set? forget pulse
[03:38] <escott> Hilikus, i would look at the RT link. it should be the same set of files you would need to modify
[03:38] <dsf900> I don't know how to set the limits for particular processes
[03:38] <dsf900> I do know how to set the limits for users and groups
[03:38] <RealEyes> is this fstab right?
[03:38] <dsf900> look at (I think) /etc/security/conf/limits.h
[03:38] <dsf900> Or something like that
[03:38] <RealEyes> /dev/sda /mnt/MUSIC ntfs-3g user,auto,rw,sync  0  0
[03:38] <dsf900> errr....
[03:38] <dsf900> /etc/security/limits.conf maybe
[03:39] <dsf900> You can see which groups/users have permission to set high (real-time) priorities
[03:39] <escott> RealEyes, use UUIDs run "sudo blkid" and set UUID=blahblahblah instead of /dev/sda
[03:39] <Hilikus> the weird think is that in my desktop, where PA runs with niceess -9, /etc/security/limits.conf has nothing for pulseaudio
[03:40] <Hilikus> but i'll try that
[03:40] <dsf900> yeah, limits.conf I think only defines limits for users and groups
[03:40] <escott> Hilikus, -9 is probably allowed. maybe the limit kicks in at -10 or higher
[03:40] <dsf900> The easy way to test it is to run pulseaudio with sudo
[03:40] <RealEyes> escott, Ive been having issues with downloading torrents to that disk
[03:40] <RealEyes> should i use 'async'
[03:40] <sifa> hoi
[03:40] <RealEyes> instead of sync?
[03:41] <dsf900> But, be careful, any priority greater than zero will run with priority greater than that of the kernel
[03:41] <dsf900> I.e. any of the real-time priorities
[03:41] <escott> RealEyes, don't know what sync does.
[03:41] <escott> RealEyes, in general the recommendation is to specify only those options you need and leave everything else to the defaults
[03:42] <dsf900> So it's possible for software bugs to (almost) totally halt your system... there's a absolute cap by default, but it's something like 1% or 0.1% of total processing time
[03:42] <Malsasa> Hello, i wanna install application in Ubuntu from source. What should i prepare?
[03:43] <escott> dsf900, you have your priorities all wrong. default is 0 19 is lowest priority -20 is highest and one of those high priorities(maybe -20 or -21) is realtime
[03:43] <iceman> evening all
[03:44] <iceman> any scripting gurus in here to night
[03:45] <dsf900> escott: sorry, I'm playing fast and loose
[03:45] <bazhang> iceman, try #bash
[03:46] <iceman> ok thanks
[03:48] <dsf900> escott: on the API side, real-time priorities are guaranteed to be from something like 1 to 20, but typically linux supports 1 to 99
[03:48] <dsf900> all real-time priorities are positive, and any real-time priority takes precedence over any non-real-time process
[03:49] <escott> dsf900, ok im not too familiar with the rt side of things just the confusing "nice" levels
[03:49] <dsf900> You're correct, in that lower nice values are higher priority
[03:49] <dsf900> Yeah, honestly I'm not too familiar with the nice priorities
[03:49] <dsf900> Different strokes for different folks, I suppose
[03:50] <escott> dsf900, -20 to 19 lower is higher, higher is lower, up is down, down is up, good is bad, bad is BAD
[03:50] <dsf900> hah
[03:51] <dsf900> I looked it up, POSIX requires that RT priorities 1-32 exist, but linux typically supports 1-99
[03:52] <RealEyes> sync/async is what was messing it up
[03:53] <dasKreech> I have a USB ethernet controller that seems to be recognized by the pegasus driver but doesn't pick up a carrier signal. Anyone could help with that?
[03:55] <BlackWeb> Is anyone familiar with rtorrent
[03:58] <hellhammer> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 and i have no ethernet or wireless connection lshw -C network reveals i have no drivers loaded how do i fix this and get ethernet working?
[04:00] <dasKreech> hellhammer: what's the chipset for the network card?
[04:00] <hellhammer> intel and/or Atheros
[04:00] <SHOTbyGUN> Hiya, Just installed 12.04LTS and keyboard and mouse are dead after hard drive installation... Live CD was working properly... I tried to launch from grub with option quiet splash acpi=off ... but it didint help... recovery mode didint detect keyboard / mouse either... what can I do ?
[04:01] <SHOTbyGUN> google found same isssues but no fixes :/
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  tried unplug/plugging them back in? ;)
[04:02] <SHOTbyGUN> yes, didin't work
[04:02] <hellhammer> daskreech ::ethernet controller is Atheros network controller is Intel
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  do they work in the GRUB menu?
[04:02] <dasKreech> hellhammer: what does lsmod say?
[04:03] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: yeah grub menu, bios, win7 keyboard works well
[04:03] <SHOTbyGUN> as does live cd
[04:03] <dasKreech> SHOTbyGUN: fancy keyboard?
[04:03] <SHOTbyGUN> Should not be :/
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  id try the 'text' option and see if they work in the console. (And instsall ssh to make testing it easier later)  grub options =:  noquiet nosplash text
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> !text
[04:04] <dasKreech> ubottu: Think that it's a X issue?
[04:04] <dasKreech> Dr_Willis: Bah Thikn that it's not a kernel issue?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> if it works in grub = not a hw issue. if it works in console that would point to a x config or hw auto detection issue
[04:05] <BlackWeb> is anyone Familiar with rtorrent
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> ive seen some issues with /dev/* in 12.04
[04:05] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: I should install irssi and then come here if I successfully have keyboard on text mode =) ?
[04:05] <dasKreech> Dr_Willis: fair enough
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> BlackWeb:  rtorrent has tons of docs and guides out there.. stsate the issue.
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  i perfer weechat. ;)
[04:06] <SHOTbyGUN> apt-get install weechat ?
[04:06] <dasKreech> SHOTbyGUN: ha ha :) yes get onto irc from there
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> but ise irssi if you know irssi. heh
[04:06] <dasKreech> Dr_Willis: what's the prefrence for weechat about?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> i just like weechat over irssi.
[04:06] <BlackWeb> For rtorrent then the configuration file does it just need to be copied to home directory as a hidden file .rtorrent.rc or is there a place for it on system
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> weechat has moar features and newer design
[04:07] <SHOTbyGUN> I think all web irc clients have mystical keyboard shortcuts and long help files lol... so dunno =)
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> BlackWeb:  most .files go in theusers home dir
[04:07] <SHOTbyGUN> text*
[04:07] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: debian's irssi factoid begins "irssi is probably the best <IRC> client ever." ;)
[04:08] <BlackWeb> Alright thanks I'll play with it somemore  and see if i run into anything :)
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> i have to many  issues with irssi.. and weecchat has several features that irssi is totally lacking. ;)
[04:08] <dasKreech> zykotick9: At least they are humble about it
[04:08] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: ok I try text mode.. cya =)
[04:08] <hellhammer> daskreech : lsmod output is http://pastebin.com/2iXm53fD
[04:09] <BlackWeb> The IP option for rtorrent, Does that option work to mask your identity the person on the other end
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> id get mor eout of weechat - if my android phone/keyboard worked more like a real keybord however. ;) i cant use some of the fancy key combos
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> BlackWeb:  if you want the most security from torrenting, use a vpn/proxy servie.
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> service
[04:11] <BlackWeb> Alright, plus its looking like with rtorrent then its only good if you have the actual torrent file already downloaded then open it up
[04:11] <dasKreech> Dr_Willis: install the hackers keyboard
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> dasKreech:  im using a real physical keyboard.. ;)
[04:11] <BlackWeb> Do where you still need elinks or gui to download the torrents still right
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> and i  have the  'hackers keyboard for  android'  ;)
[04:12] <hellhammer> daskreech : lsmod output as requested http://pastebin.com/c966g0gv
[04:12] <dasKreech> Dr_Willis: must be pretty eleaborate commands then
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> dasKreech:  alt-= oor the F keys.. just dont work correctly
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> so its a bit limiting.
[04:12] <dasKreech> hellhammer: Those are some strange IDs for the card in lshw. Do you know anything more about them ?
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> but it was a $80 Bt keyboard on sale for $13
[04:13] <dasKreech> Dr_Willis: Rollable?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> I bought all 3 they had on the clearance bin
[04:13] <neo_> I found a vob file on a dvd disk and copied it to the desktop and cant play the vob file, I did check and I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> Motorolla brand,
[04:13] <zykotick9> neo_: dvd support isn't in u-r-e
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> !dvd
[04:13] <zykotick9> !dvd | neo_
[04:14] <hellhammer> daskreech : not really its a fresh install of ubuntu onto a new laptop
[04:14] <dasKreech> I have a USB ethernet controller that seems to be recognized by the pegasus driver but doesn't pick up a carrier signal. Anyone could help with that?
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> Ive been trying to rip some dvd's and the silly things have some bad-block sort of data protection scheme. really confused the dvd ripper apps. ;(
[04:14] <dasKreech> hellhammer: what model laptop?
[04:14] <neo_> that is u-r-e?
[04:14] <neo_> nevermind,
[04:15] <neo_> where would I install to allow me to play the vob file?
[04:15] <dasKreech> neo_: Is that waht would you install?
[04:15] <hellhammer> daskreech  : asus k53s
[04:16] <neo_> Im able to play the dvd directly I just wanted a copy so I can play it on netbooks without needing an outlet to plug in an external dvd drive
[04:18] <bazhang> neo_, mplayer can play those  ubuntu-restricted-extras is u-r-e
[04:18] <zykotick9> bazhang: i'd think libdvdcss2 would be required... i certainly could be wrong
[04:19] <tga> hey, quick question, how can I resize the dock in unity-2d?
[04:19] <neo_> mplayer is really messing up the video, its nearly all black and the audio is scattered
[04:19] <tga> I can´t find a straight answer online
[04:20] <bazhang> zykotick9, ah, I thought he had a vob already
[04:20] <neo_> I copyed the vob from the dvd to the desktop
[04:20] <neo_> even vlc cant play it
[04:20] <zykotick9> bazhang: they do.  but i'd think that would still be "protected" (they said they copied it)
[04:21] <bazhang> zykotick9, then you're correct in the need for the libdvdcss2 from medibuntu, I suspect
[04:21] <neo_> I did copy it, Id assume its still protected
[04:21] <bazhang> neo_, thats not the way to rip a dvd
[04:21] <lauratika> what is the channel for rhythmbox anyone?
[04:22] <neo_> bazhang, I dont mind the vobs I just wanted to play it on devices that dont have dvd drives built in
[04:22] <bazhang> !alis | lauratika have a look
[04:22] <bazhang> neo_, then read the bot link about dvd above
[04:22] <neo_> bazhang, is there a command to remove the protection?
[04:23] <Drecondius> Ok, I can get Ubuntu installed but after a quick install it drops me into a CLI where i check the nvidia xserver setting and see that the drivers are loaded but i can't run Xserver
[04:23] <Drecondius> Any Ideas?
[04:25] <neo_> why dont I need to rip a dvd to play it directly?
[04:25] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis, the text mode didint launch anything... so I guess that Download updates on installation broke my ubuntu installation somehow :/
[04:26] <Transhumanist> What is the recommended virtual machine app in Ubuntu? Someone told me yesterday and I forgot.
[04:27] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: I am now on Live Ubutu mode so I guess I could try to downgrade kernel or something ?
[04:27] <Commodore1702> Hey guys, I've got a video card driver issue with 10.10
[04:28] <zykotick9> Transhumanist: depends what you're doing really.  Vbox is popular (but Oracle contaminated), KVM is really good but lacks 3d support.  I've never tried xen.
[04:28] <Transhumanist> VirtualBox?
[04:28] <DarwinSurvivor> Commodore1702: 10.10 is no longer supported, it is EOL. please upgrade to a newer release
[04:28] <slipknot> hi i connect headphones bluetooth and its pairing bat i dont see the profile on pulse audio to switch it any idea ?
[04:28] <Drecondius> Transhumanist : Yup that's the one
[04:28] <DarwinSurvivor> !elo | Commodore1702
[04:28] <DarwinSurvivor> !eol | Commodore1702
[04:29] <Commodore1702> I would, but I kind of have issues with Unity and the card is old enough to have been supported
[04:29] <Transhumanist> Awww man, I see - Oracle owns it now.  Why did they have to consume Sun? :( Anyway, cheers guys.
[04:30] <Commodore1702> Transhumanist: because Oracle saw profit in Sun
[04:30] <DarwinSurvivor> Commodore1702: the version you are running no longer receives security updates, it is *STRONGLY* recommended that you don't use it. if you need gnome-2, try downgrading to 10.04 which is an LTS release supported until April of 2013
[04:30] <Transhumanist> More like they saw profit in Sun's copyrights and patents.
[04:30] <Transhumanist> ;)
[04:30] <Commodore1702> DarwinSurvivor: Alright
[04:30] <Commodore1702> let me reboot it and download 10.04
[04:31] <Drecondius> hell i'm trying to get ANY distro to work but can't. so gl with that
[04:31] <SHOTbyGUN> Keyboard & Mouse not working 12.04LTS ... with latest updates... GRUB works and LIVE Ubuntu works... Any1 know how to fix the issue ?
[04:31] <tga> any takers on resizing the dock in unity-2d?
[04:31] <DarwinSurvivor> Commodore1702: the newer versions of ubuntu don't use much more resources that 10.04. if you don't like unity, there are also other DE's you can try like XFCE or LMDE which are more "traditional" in their design
[04:31] <dasKreech> hellhammer: Sems that those should just work
[04:31] <Transhumanist> as an aside, the current version, 12.04, is awesome and will be supported for the next 5 years (so.. 2017 I guess)
[04:31] <tga> also, how do you set the font size more than small/normal/big?
[04:31] <slipknot> hi i connect headphones bluetooth and its pairing bat i dont see the profile on pulse audio to switch it any idea ?
[04:32] <hellhammer> daskreech : explain please
[04:32] <DarwinSurvivor> Commodore1702: also, 12.04 is a special LTS that will be supported for *5* years, so no reinstalls required until 2017 :)
[04:32] <Commodore1702> I'll upgrade then, I'll just try and downgrade gnome
[04:32] <tga> good though, using the current unity mess for 5 years straight
[04:32] <slipknot> hi i connect headphones bluetooth and its pairing bat i dont see the profile on sound preference  to switch it any idea ?
[04:33] <DarwinSurvivor> Commodore1702: you won't be able to install gnome2 in the newer release, even its developers have dropped it.
[04:33] <Transhumanist> I like Unity. My last experience with Ubuntu was 8.04. It has improved a lot.
[04:33] <tga> unity is not ready for LTS imho
[04:33] <tga> they should do LTS when the system is ready, not on a schedule
[04:33] <bandit5432> tga you can install gnome-tweak-tool for gnome i dont know if it will change the fonts in unity
[04:33] <tga> thanks
[04:33] <Commodore1702> I prefer classig gnome, unity just makes it look too much like a mac and I dislike that strongly
[04:33] <hi117> is oneiric the latest version of ubuntu?
[04:33] <tga> any idea about resizing the damn unity icons in 2d?
[04:33] <dasKreech> hellhammer: The asus k53s has a known and well documented working chipset. I'm not sure why it's not being initated
[04:33] <DarwinSurvivor> !patience | tga
[04:34] <DarwinSurvivor> hi117: no, precise (12.04) is
[04:34] <tga> !donthavepatience | DarwinSurvivor
[04:34] <hi117> ok... why does this wiki page not list it, oh well
[04:34] <hellhammer> daskreech : what are my options?
[04:34] <Transhumanist> tga: Then try reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.
[04:34] <DarwinSurvivor> tga: if you don't have enough patience to follow the irc guidelines, consider using a different support medium (wikis, forums, mailing lists, etc)
[04:35] <DarwinSurvivor> histo: which wiki page?
[04:35] <Drecondius> O I just had an idea does 32bit versions not have the pita issues that x64 seems to be having?
[04:35] <dasKreech> hellhammer: Quite a bit I suppose.
[04:35] <bandit5432> tga, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/unity-launcher-change-size.html
[04:35] <dasKreech> Dr_Willis: ping. have a moment to help hellhammer with loading a network driver? I'm leaving in just a few minutes
[04:35] <tga> oh, awesome, my unity just become invisible
[04:35] <tga> itś still there, just invisible
[04:35] <Transhumanist> If you're having problems with 64-bit (most people run it fine) then definitely try 32-bit, as it may well solve your problems
[04:36] <tga> uhm, and my keyboard layout is different apparently
[04:36] <mickster04> hey guys, 12.04 Quadro 570, two identical monitors and i can't dual screen...do you need any other info?
[04:36] <bandit5432> tga, what app did you use to change?
[04:36] <tga> um none
[04:36] <tga> I was doing something else
[04:36] <Drecondius> here's the catch i still have to run the nomodeset paramater to get into gui or to install via alternate so ...
[04:36] <mickster04> oh, it doesn't detect the second monitor
[04:36] <Transhumanist> mickster: using the ATI driver?
[04:36] <mickster04> Transhumanist: well no seeing as it is nvidia :p
[04:36] <tga> funny, I can still use the buttons and menus, theyŕe just invisible
[04:36] <mickster04> but i am using the nvidia driver
[04:37] <Transhumanist> Once I installed my ATI driver, dual monitors wouldn't work until I set them up in the ATI Catalyst Control Panel. Just a thought.
[04:37] <Drecondius> Mickster04: What version of Ubuntu are you using and is it 32 or 64bit
[04:37] <mickster04> Drecondius: 64
[04:37] <mickster04> Drecondius: 12.04
[04:38] <Drecondius> Pardon my language but how the hell did you get it to work?
[04:38] <bandit5432> mickster04, have you tried nvidia-settings ?
[04:38] <Drecondius> i can't get into xserver
[04:38] <mickster04> bandit5432: yeah, it doesn't even detect the second monitor
[04:38] <mickster04> Drecondius: uhm...install and run...you do have a 64bit processor right ;p
[04:39] <SHOTbyGUN> Keyboard & Mouse not working 12.04LTS  with fresh hard drive installation  with latest updates... GRUB works and LIVE Ubuntu works... Any1 know how to fix the issue ? Bus 003 Device 003: ID 046d:c30e Logitech, Inc. UltraX Keyboard (Y-BL49)
[04:39] <Drecondius> mickster04: Yeah AMD FX 6200
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN: console dont work eh?
[04:39] <Drecondius> 16GB ram on an asus m5A97 mobo
[04:39] <Transhumanist> You could try uninstalling the nvidia driver and using the open source one. My guess is your dual monitor setup will work then. If it still doesn't, then I doubt the problem is with your driver.
[04:39] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: text mode didint launch at all
[04:39] <mickster04> demonspork: did you try using vesa drivers?
[04:40] <mickster04> Drecondius: ^^
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  thats weird.  unless theeres some differnt options for 12.04 these days
[04:40] <mickster04> demonspork: sorry, wrong nick
[04:40] <demonspork> mickster04: np
[04:40] <Drecondius> ummmm
[04:40] <Drecondius> Vesa?
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  how about the recovery/rescue modes?
[04:41] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: recovery mode launched but the keyboard didint work when it wanted me to choose recovery launch option
[04:41] <Drecondius> how would I use the Vesa driver from cli
[04:41] <Drecondius> rather how would i uninstall the nvidia driver to install the vesa driver
[04:41] <dasKreech> hellhammer: try sudo modprobe ath9k
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  so on the menus of recovery/rescue mode. which use the console/text interface. they keybord did not work..
[04:42] <Commodore1702> good night guyd
[04:42] <mickster04> Drecondius: try deleting /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:42] <Commodore1702> guys*
[04:42] <Commodore1702> +++
[04:42] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: yeah :/ so I think its latest kernel issue maybe ?
[04:42] <Drecondius> Oy, If it'll let me
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  pointing  to some odd kernel/bios weirdness.
[04:42] <ryanturner> Any of you with 12.04 64bit use Spotify? I want to check if an error is reproducible for someone else.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  as  test. see if the bios has a 'legacy usb' setting.
[04:43] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: yes it has... and it is enabled
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  tried it the other  way? ;)  onone pc  i had. grub would only  work  with it on, (Or off, i dont recall(
[04:44] <peleh182> \list
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> I have a whole box of PS2 keyboards. ;)
[04:44] <bandit5432> mickster04, have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaMultiMonitors
[04:44] <zanecoy> \?
[04:44] <zanecoy> ?
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Multi Monitors work here great on mynvidia setip
[04:44] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: well Grub works and I am currently on LTS 12.04 Live Ubuntu
[04:45] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: so if live ubuntu works with legacy usb... and installation does not work... problem should be on latest updates right ?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  i would wonder if its not some weird currupted install also. this is a totally fresh install.
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  or did some updates break it?
[04:46] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: I had Download updates when installing option enabled
[04:46] <mickster04> bandit5432: close, but it doesn't detect the monitor so doesn't show it as disabled :/
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  Hmm. so its hard to tell what update did it.. and even if  a new  update fixed it..you cant really get the updates to intall with no way to enter any  commands
[04:47] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: well my foot will work fine when i kick your ass but it doesn't help matters :p I have not had an issue before :/
[04:47] <ryanturner> I'm interested in getting started as a dev for Ubuntu, but am curious as to what I'm able to do: I've got experience in C and C++, python, PHP, and F90. Are most projects "open" based on that?
[04:48] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: well I guess I try to do chroot and see if I can verify my kernel or something
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  if you chould chroot in, and install ssh. that would help trouble shooting out some.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  then at least you could look at the logs and try to see any errors
[04:48] <bandit5432> mickster04, does xrandr show 2 monitors connected?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> and apply new upodates
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> updates
[04:49] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: ok I try
[04:49] <SHOTbyGUN> !chroot
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  only other thing i can think to try would be a reinsall without installing updates,  if that workes right.. install ssh, then try installing updates to see if any break things..
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  also see if any older kernels exist in the  menus to test out
[04:50] <mickster04> bandit5432: niet
[04:51] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: no It had only one version ... but I try if I can somehow install older versions too :p
[04:51] <dsf900> ryanturner: I think about getting into this sometimes too- as I understand it, most Ubuntu development is more maintnence of existing packages
[04:51] <bandit5432> mickster04, are you using a custom xorg.conf?
[04:51] <mickster04> bandit5432: i will reset it and return...hold on :)
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN: only other thing i can thino of - is trying aidffernt usb ports.
[04:52] <dsf900> ryanturner: I've thought more about finding some open-source project and trying to sign on with them
[04:52] <ryanturner> Any examples of things that are interesting? :P
[04:53] <dsf900> ryanturner: and that open-source project gets incorporated into the ubutu mainstream eventually
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> dsf900:  there is that 1000 papercuts project thst  work on 'trivial' bug fixs and other polishing of details
[04:53] <dsf900> ryanturner: I have no idea, what kinds of programming do you do?
[04:53] <ryanturner> What's unity made in?
[04:53] <ryanturner> I've mostly been a web guy, to be honest. Also got a bit of experience in working with microprocessors, image processing for motion tracking, and a tiny bit of interface
[04:54] <dsf900> ryanturner: I also have no idea what kinds of projects need what kinds of people.
[04:54] <dsf900> ryanturner: you could see if the GIMP needs people
[04:54] <ryanturner> GIMP could be interesting. Wish GIMP kicked ass and people would put it on par with Photoshop.
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> gimp always needs people. ;)  its amazing how few people actually work on it.
[04:54] <dsf900> ryanturner: I really don't know how much canonical wants people to mess around with Unity
[04:55] <dsf900> and it's probably one of the more-used open source packages out there
[04:55] <ryanturner> I just wish it were more stable. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 for the first time, fresh, last night.
[04:55] <ryanturner> Had about 4 forced logouts to get unity back working.
[04:55] <dsf900> frankly, I haven't upgraded because of unity
[04:56] <dsf900> If I do, I'm probably going to have to find an alternative
[04:56] <mickster04> bandit5432: no xorg.conf and it still doesn't detect
[04:56] <ryanturner> where it would magically hide the close/minimize/maximize buttons, not let me click at all, and one time it wouldn't let me show the unity bar after it hiding (had it set to auto-hide)
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> i just dove in and started using unity, with a few little tweaks.. and it works fine for me.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> That HUD feature is niifty now that i rember its there..
[04:57] <bandit5432> mickster04, xrandr --verbose does not list any of you monitors?
[04:57] <ryanturner> I like unity. I like the features. I just haven't found it stable on 12.04 in my first 24 hours of use.
[04:57] <ryanturner> Dr_Willis, I havne't figured out how to use the HUD
[04:57] <dsf900> I bet there's an IRC channel around here somewhere specifically for people interested in contributing to an open-source project
[04:57] <ryanturner> just gives me a "type your command" box
[04:57] <mickster04> bandit5432: only one
[04:57] <bazhang> !alis | dsf900 ryanturner
[04:57] <bandit5432> mickster04,  what card are you using and how are you connecting the monitors?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> ryanturner:  whats   to figure out.. tap alt.. enter some searh string
[04:58] <mickster04> bandit5432: both dvi in a quadro fx 570
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> ryanturner:  want the displays settings tool.. type 'dis' it shows it
[04:58] <mickster04> it worked with the fallback version of gnome
[04:58] <ryanturner> Hows that any different from the dash search Dr_Willis ?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> ryanturner:  in gimp and can  barely rember where a menu item is.. type alt, then its name
[04:58] <mickster04> bandit5432: is unity causing it to fall over?
[04:58] <ryanturner> Ahhh
[04:58] <ryanturner> Ok, now I see value.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> ryanturner:  it does Menu items. not just apps
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> and it can do the earch across several 'areas' at a time
[04:59] <bandit5432> mickster04, what happens when you choose unity when you login?
[04:59] <mickster04> bandit5432: well it's the only option i have
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> i rarely use dash - hud is where i go first these days
[04:59] <mickster04> i removed fall back though cos it too fell over (many panels started appearing)
[05:00] <bandit5432> mickster04, so you are using unity or gnome-fallback?
[05:00] <mickster04> bandit5432: unity
[05:00] <bandit5432> mickster04, ok will look into it
[05:00] <mickster04> bandit5432: i was merely trying to suggest that without unity it seemed to work... but unity doesn't seem to let me
[05:00] <bandit5432> mickster04, if you want to use gnome-classic you have to install gnome-panel
[05:02] <mickster04> bandit5432: is gnome panel the thing on the left?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> unity launcher is the left side  vertical panel
[05:03] <mickster04> ok
[05:03] <mickster04> well basically i woul dhave been happy with the panels as they were
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> the askubuntu.com site had a nice thread on the proper names  (With pictures) of all the parts of unity
[05:03] <mickster04> i thought they were more customisable and it was tidier
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> if you want a more classic-old-skool type desktop, thers xubuntu, and lubuntu
[05:04] <mickster04> i might just go there :/
[05:04] <bandit5432> mickster04, if you install gnome-panel it will give you the option to long in to gnome-classic from the login screnn
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> its amazing how much i rember people complaining about how uncustomizeable gnome2 was ;)
[05:04] <mickster04> this isn't that pleasant, and i need two monitors really
[05:04] <bandit5432> login' screen'
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> if X is not propoerly seeing both monitors, then the desktop/window manager wont matter.
[05:06] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: yeah
[05:06] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: i wouldn't mind just knowing how to start debugging it
[05:06] <mickster04> :/
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure what Nvidia card i got on this box. lspci just gives some id3
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Id #
[05:06] <bandit5432> mickster04, have you tried looking in the xorg logs?
[05:06] <mickster04> where are they?
[05:07] <tsukasa_> hey
[05:07] <bandit5432> /var/log/Xorg.0/log
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> All ive done in the past to get  Multi  displays going was install  'nvidia-current'  reboot, run 'gksudo   nvidia-settings'  and save the xorg.conf
[05:07] <tsukasa_> need help: i'm booting from liveusb and after the log loads stuff for sdb it freezes
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> then restart X server
[05:07] <tsukasa_> i have tried ubuntu liveusb and a different ubuntu based usb install
[05:08] <tsukasa_> created with unetbootin
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  is  this  a laptop? ordesktop
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> or desktop
[05:08] <tsukasa_> sda and sdb are disk drives, the advanced drive thing is turned on in the bios
[05:08] <bandit5432> Dr_Willis ty i dont have dual monitors so this is out of my league
[05:08] <tsukasa_> if i switch it to ide it has different messages but still freezes
[05:08] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: tower :) dell t3400
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  well i was going to suggest  trying the fn- keys if  it  was a laptop...
[05:09] <tsukasa_> anyone have an idea?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  both omnitors  plugged into the same card? or 2 differnt cards?
[05:09] <tsukasa_> i would really like to have an ubuntu installation on my laptop
[05:09] <tsukasa_> i can't even boot from liveusb though
[05:09] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: just the one card
[05:09] <ryanturner> what does SD_ stand for?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  both were plugged in and turned on when the pc powered up from a powered down state?
[05:10]  * Dr_Willis is  rembering all these quirks hes had in the past with 2 monitor setups
[05:10] <mickster04> yeah
[05:10] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: hum..the logs only seem to see the one monitor
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> does the BIOS  appear on  one or both monitors?
[05:11] <mickster04> hangon, gonna switchthe cables around
[05:11] <bandit5432> i need to use dual monitors to have these problems
[05:11] <ryanturner> SDA = SCSI Drive A?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> i was going to joke about  the dog chewing on the cables earlier.. ;)
[05:11] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: i'll let you know when i reboot next
[05:11] <bandit5432> osi model always check hardware first .. i always check it last
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> step  2.3.1 - look for  teeth  mark  on the cables.. be it dog, or toddler...
[05:12] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: will i just swapped the cabeles around and now the monitors have switched, so the cables are fine
[05:13] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: the second monitor got plugged in and said 'no signal'
[05:13] <mickster04> so it's getting something
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  as a test. try unpluggint eh one that works.. and see if the other one kicks in when you reboot.
[05:13] <mickster04> just not anything useful
[05:13] <mickster04> ok
[05:13] <mickster04> brb
[05:13] <bandit5432> i have been having edid problems with nvidia this week so i have been a little iritated about that
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> Mine said no signal UNtil i ran the nvidia-settings tool and enabled it..
[05:13] <bandit5432> thats what i linked him 2
[05:14] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis: I got chroot working and installing million updates... but it kept back my kernel -23
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:15] <Bsims> what is the best way to read a ext3 fs from winodws
[05:15] <SHOTbyGUN> ok :p
[05:15] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: well i did that and now we're on the other screen
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  that basically shows its not hardware. ;)
[05:16] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: i concur
[05:16] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: a good test non the less
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  iw the unplugged monittor hdmi? or dvi? or vga?
[05:16] <mickster04> they're both dvi
[05:16] <mickster04> AHA
[05:16] <SHOTbyGUN> Dr_Willis I think I know what caused my system FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.2.0-24-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[05:16] <SHOTbyGUN> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.2.0-24-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[05:16] <mickster04> i just ran a detect
[05:16] <SHOTbyGUN> I think my kernel upgrade was interrupted while installing / downloading same time
[05:16] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: and now it sees it
[05:16] <mickster04> !
[05:17] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: your test 'fixed' it :D
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  im thinking you may have had a loose cable earlier
[05:17] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: maybe :)
[05:17] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: eitherway thanks for your pateince
[05:17] <mickster04> (sp)
[05:17]  * Dr_Willis hands mickster04  some glue
[05:18] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: it may have also helped that i plugged it in once booted then re-detected
[05:18] <mickster04> :D
[05:18]  * mickster04 goes screws some srews
[05:18] <bandit5432> Bsims, have you looked into http://www.ext2fsd.com/ i have never used it
[05:18] <Bsims> SHOTbyGUN: try apt-get install --reinstall on your kernel package
[05:18] <SHOTbyGUN> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> yep.  one thing i dont like about hdmi, no lock screws
[05:18] <SHOTbyGUN>  resolvconf
[05:18] <SHOTbyGUN>  linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic
[05:18] <SHOTbyGUN>  linux-image-generic
[05:18] <SHOTbyGUN>  linux-generic
[05:18] <FloodBot1> SHOTbyGUN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:18] <SHOTbyGUN> oh shit... Do I need to reinstall everything ?
[05:19] <bandit5432> good call Dr_Willis
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> seems you got some deeper issues SHOTbyGUN ;()
[05:19] <SHOTbyGUN> hmm... maybe my usb stick is corrupt or something :/
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> in theory you should be able to reinstall all the kernel files.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> but often apt gets  stubborn
[05:20] <Bsims> bandit5432: no using disk internals to copy it, but don't wan't windows to mess up the metadata
[05:20] <Bsims> SHOTbyGUN: failing that try dpkg -i to reinstall it
[05:21] <bandit5432> Bsims, i copy things from my ext4 to a ntfs partition all the time but never the other way
[05:21] <Bsims> bandit5432: heh diskinternals linux reader is good for that... and it doesn't write to linux so no chance of corruption
[05:22] <bandit5432> Bsims, let me rephrase that i copy from booted linux to mounted ntfs not booted windows onto ext3/4
[05:22]  * Bsims nods, just throwing it out there if you need a file on your linux partition while in windows
[05:22] <bandit5432> Bsims, thanks for the link i will download that
[05:23]  * Bsims hangs my head in shame for the first time in a decade I actually /have/ a windows partition
[05:23] <ryanturner> Dr_Willis, is it bad practice to put say a .jar and .sh file in /usr/share/____/
[05:23] <ryanturner> "manual" install of a java app w/ a .desktop launcher?
[05:24] <cc20> hey all
[05:24] <bandit5432> Bsims,  i have windows virtual disks that i use all the time
[05:24] <ads_> i need to check whether my tomcat server is started or not, how will do that?
[05:24] <cc20> is ubuntu any good for programs and stuff
[05:24] <ryanturner> cc20, what do you mean?
[05:24] <cc20> like is it like windows equivalent..
[05:24] <ryanturner> It's an OS :)
[05:24] <bandit5432> Bsims, so why not copy what you need to the ntfs partition and use it from there?
[05:24] <ryanturner> so in that sense! cc20 what do you primarily do?
[05:25] <Bsims> bandit5432: heh yeah but I've been Linux only from 2000
[05:25] <cc20> so is it taking over windows 7
[05:25] <ryanturner> Probably not.
[05:25] <cc20> and the next best thing?
[05:25] <Bsims> bandit thats mostly what I do, but my media drive is a full tb lol
[05:25] <ryanturner> But with Windows 8 rolling up, Ubuntu is claiming more and more market share.
[05:25] <cc20> really?
[05:25] <cc20> can i install ubuntu on the same drive as windows 7 is there a problem with that
[05:26] <bandit5432> Bsims, ouch that would not work have you looked at the Ext2Fsd Project
[05:26] <ryanturner> cc20, no problem at all; just dual boot with different partitions.
[05:26] <bazhang> !dualboot | cc20
[05:26] <ads_> i need to check whether my tomcat server is started or not, how will i do that??
[05:26] <Bsims> Yeah windows 7 is gonna be the next XP Microsoft is gonna have to support it for a decade... its a good OS I hate to say it but for windows its good
[05:26] <bazhang> !manual | cc20 have a read First
[05:26] <Bsims> bandit5432: looking into it
[05:26] <ryanturner> ads_, status tomcat
[05:27] <cc20> how long have you been using ubuntu ryanturner  and are you happy with it..
[05:27] <ads_> ryanturner:- ok
[05:27] <ryanturner> I've been off and on again for about 3 years or so.
[05:27] <bazhang> cc20, thats a chat channel topic, not here
[05:27] <bandit5432> Bsims, it does not look like that will have the supported options you need
[05:27] <bazhang> cc20, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[05:28] <Bsims> bandit5432: actually it looks like it may work
[05:28] <SHOTbyGUN> Bsims: how do I do the dpkg thing again ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1002366/ So I have /dev/sdd1/ chrooted to /media/newubu/
[05:28] <bandit5432> Bsims, does not have ext3 full version support and ext4 is only ro
[05:29] <Bsims> SHOTbyGUN: cd /var/cache/apt
[05:30] <SHOTbyGUN> Bsims: archives  pkgcache.bin  srcpkgcache.bin
[05:30] <Bsims> then do a ls to make sure you are in the right place... and you are gonna have to ls|grep each package name... then sudo dpkg -i foo-1.2.3 bar-2.3.4 baz5.6.7
[05:30] <Bsims> SHOTbyGUN: you want archives
[05:30] <SHOTbyGUN> ok thx
[05:31] <bandit5432> sleep time
[05:31] <Bsims> SHOTbyGUN: heh I used to run sid... used to fixing breakages
[05:31] <SHOTbyGUN> Bsims: sorry I dont know what sid is :)
[05:31] <michaela> whats the website that lets me write a lot of text and give me a url so that i could past it in hear
[05:32]  * Bsims feels old... I remember when we had a /etc/X11/Xfree86.conf and had to edit it by hand
[05:32] <Bsims> SHOTbyGUN: its Debian Unstable
[05:32] <SHOTbyGUN> ahh :p
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin | michaela
[05:33] <ads_> ryanturner: my status is "status: Unknown job: tomcat"
[05:33] <Bsims> SHOTbyGUN: all Debian releases are named after toystory caracters... Unstable is always named Sid after the boy who broke the toys
[05:33] <michaela> thanks
[05:33] <ryanturner> ads_, sorry I gave you the wrong command.
[05:33] <ads_> ryanturner: then?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> shows how old debian is that its using names from a movie from how many years ago? ;)
[05:34] <ryanturner> ads_ ps aux | grep -i tomcat
[05:35] <ads_>  ryanturner: ok, trying
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> SHOTbyGUN:  you get your  apt  fixed?
[05:36] <Bsims> Dr_Willis: lol bite your tounge... I got my start with kernel 2.4.0 and the X11 to xorg change... and didn't see half the butthurt I see over the fact that ubuntu has a new default WM
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Bsims:  i ermber  when  getting a cd-rw working..  needed a kernelrecompile. ;)
[05:36] <Bsims> that said pulseaudio can bite my bum
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> i recall the huge ranting  with the  move to xorg ;)
[05:36] <ads_> ryanturner: http://pastie.org/3953912 it gave me following output, so i can see over der start word , so does it mean my tomcat is started?
[05:37] <ryanturner> ads_, yep! Got a java call to start catalina.startup.Bootstrap
[05:37] <ryanturner> so you should be rockin
[05:37] <Bsims> Dr_Willis: heh remember when SuSE was spelled that way?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> it does seem thsat the  apt packageing system is way more fragile then it shouldbe.
[05:38] <SHOTbyGUN> apt-get install --reinstall ...said same thing.. errors while prosessing
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Bsims:  i still own some boxed sets of suse and mandrake.
[05:38] <qawsedrf> i wanna change the permissions of all subdirectories in a directory recursively but NOT of the files, how to do that ?
[05:38] <SHOTbyGUN> maybe I dont know how to chroot properly?
[05:38] <ads_> ryanturner:ok, so how will i do that?
[05:38] <Bsims> still makes rpm look kiddystuff
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> qawsedrf:  use of the find command may  work best for  that
[05:39] <qawsedrf> :S
[05:39] <qawsedrf> some bash script ?
[05:39] <ryanturner> ads_, what? How will you do what? You can rock however you want to :D
[05:39] <michaela> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1002380/
[05:39] <qawsedrf> like find all directoies and pipe one by one to chmod ?
[05:39]  * Bsims had an evil evil idea... modify bash for a newbie so it comes up in vi and see how long it takes him to exit
[05:39] <ryanturner> michaela, lol
[05:39] <ryanturner> nice job
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> qawsedrf:  the find command has allthose features  allready.
[05:39] <KingKatari> i am running Ubuntu Server 11.10 and i get a high amount of connections from a ipaddress on a very specific port for a service i run on that port, well after 10 to 30 seconds i start getting abunch of connection timeouts and or socket hang-ups would somaxconn have something to do with that?
[05:40] <ryanturner> michaela's question: ok im not sure if you guys can help me with firefox. im using firefox 12 in ubuntu 12.04 and i cant move my tabs or bookmarks around is there some thing i can do ore a community that can help me
[05:40] <ads_> ryanturner: u said, "Got a java call to start catalina.startup.Bootstrap" so i take it as i need to start now some catalina.startup.Bootstrap, m i right or i even dont need to do this
[05:40] <newbie> how to share files from one pc to another using wired network?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> newbie:  what os is  onthe other pcs? Samba should work in most cases
[05:41] <nine_> newbie, instgall samba
[05:41] <ryanturner> ads_, sorry. The list you posted showed a running java call to start Bootstrap. I was just saying that since that was there, you should be up and running.
[05:41] <ryanturner> Nothing more for you to do.
[05:41] <Bsims> newbie: samba is what you want
[05:41] <ryanturner> samba
[05:41] <ryanturner> 1st
[05:41] <ryanturner> damnit
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> newbie:  if you  just  want to  do  some quick  transfers, you  can use other  tools also
[05:41] <ryanturner> Dr_Willis, nine_ and Bsims beat me.
[05:42] <newbie> Dr_Willis,  nine_  Bsims  the other os is also *buntu  i though samba is for windows file sharing?
[05:42] <ads_> ryanturner:ok..thanks
[05:42] <ryanturner> newbie, you could always rsync it
[05:42] <nine_> its for both
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> newbie:   you  may  want to check out 'sshfs'  and learn how  to  use scp and ssh. VERY worthwile  info  toknow
[05:42] <ryanturner> yeah or scp
[05:42] <michaela> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1002380/
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> newbie:  with  scp  you can easially  copy  files tothe other pc
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> but thsts not the same  as a 'share'
[05:43] <nine_> ur name scares me ryanturner
[05:43] <Bsims> newbie: it is, but your smartphone and linux will read and write to it without problems
[05:43] <nine_> lol
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> with sshfs, you can mount the other pc to a  localdirectory   ;) easialy
[05:43] <ads_> ryanturner: sorry to say now but need to know one more think, how can i deploy my webservice java code in tomcat, any suggestions is of gr8 appreciable
[05:43] <ryanturner> michaela, just ask your question in here; posting a link to a pastebin with your question in there wont get help.
[05:43] <newbie> ryanturner,  rsync is for syncrhronisation i think. i just need to copy files. should i remote login. how?
[05:43] <Bsims> newbie: Oh if you do a lot of remote access over ssh it is very muchly worth your while to install gnu screen
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> newbie:  id use scpthen, install ssh  on both machines.  then you  can  scp from one box to  the  other
[05:44] <ryanturner> ads_, please see #tomcat for further help in deploying a service to tomcat.
[05:44] <michaela> ok im not sure if you guys can help me with firefox. im using firefox 12 in ubuntu 12.04 and i cant move my tabs or bookmarks around is there some thing i can do ore a community that can help me
[05:44] <ryanturner> newbie, listen to Dr_Willis. SCP is what you want.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> michaela:  theres always the forums and  askubuntu.com
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> michaela:  try  making  a new  user - see if  it  affects thenew user also
[05:45] <ryanturner> michaela I can't visualize your problem and I don't use FireFox so I'm of little help. Sorry.
[05:45] <ryanturner> Firefox *
[05:45] <ryanturner> dear god
[05:45] <Bsims> Oh Dr_Willis http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/screen-users/2005-04/msg00040.html heh my screenrc if you care
[05:45] <nine_> michaela...  that sounds more like an incompatability of ur computer
[05:45] <nine_> My tabs work fine
[05:45] <ryanturner> Or a wonky setting as willis is suggesting
[05:45] <nine_> I will check again\
[05:45] <ryanturner> eventually you could probably tinker enough to merk it up
[05:46] <nine_> michaela, are u using 2d or regular ubuntu?
[05:46] <newbie> ryanturner,  Dr_Willis  scp is?
[05:47] <michaela> regular
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> 'ssh copy'
[05:47] <nine_> hmm
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[05:47] <nine_> fully updated?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !scp
[05:47] <ryanturner> lol what Dr_Willis
[05:47] <michaela> ill try on another user
[05:47] <ryanturner> I thought it was Secure Copy
[05:47] <newbie> ryanturner,  Dr_Willis and if i want a permanent file sharing thing like windows has. i need samba? even for linux files sharing.. you know the click drag and drop
[05:47] <nine_> yea  cause UI can not get the same results  mine work fine
[05:48] <ryanturner> newbie use Samba. Samba is nice :)
[05:48] <deejay31> I have ZNC running on my server, and my VPS has multiple IPS and the adaptors are called venet0 venet0:1 venet0:2 how can I make ZNC connect through 1 of these
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> newbie:  sshfs can  mount a remote box locally.as a simple way tohave a 'share' or you  canuse samba,or nfs,
[05:48] <nine_> nubie
[05:48] <ryanturner> and quit changing your demands lol
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> samba  canbe a royal pain
[05:48] <nine_> fine ur public folder in ur files
[05:48] <nine_> go to properties
[05:49] <nine_> share
[05:49] <ryanturner> Doesnt the built in Personal File Sharing ui use samba?
[05:49] <nine_> it wiill prompt u to symba and the lib file
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> ryanturner:  yep. and sometimes  it  even works!
[05:49] <ryanturner> :<
[05:49] <ryanturner> wasn't aware of the problems lol
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> i have major  issues with samba  shares not  showing  up on my  homenetwork. unless i enter their  name/ip#'s directly
[05:49] <newbie> Dr_Willis,  ryanturner  thanks !
[05:49] <ryanturner> though I have had random samba problems just generally.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> seems every year. samba  gets flakier and flakier
[05:50] <nine_> lol
[05:50] <ryanturner> newbie, no problem! Just install samba via software center and then use the "Personal File Sharing" dialog to get a setup going. Cross your fingers (and toes)!
[05:50] <nine_> install the ay I do
[05:50] <nine_> it is recommended
[05:50] <nine_> I have no simba issues
[05:50] <newbie> ryanturner,  ok :)
[05:50] <nine_> :)
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> very mixed lan here, and  it seems the  boxeebox is the  only thing thats seems to see ALL my shares  with any reliability.
[05:51] <Bsims> Dr_Willis: heh has to be bug compatable with windows
[05:51] <deejay31> Dr_Willis, I have ZNC running on my server, and my VPS has multiple IPS and the adaptors are called venet0 venet0:1 venet0:2 how can I make ZNC connect through 1 of these
[05:51] <ryanturner> Dr_Willis, at my last job they had major samba and LDAP
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Ive had Win7 box;s not  see other win 7 box's  xp not  see win7 box 1, but sees 2.  and so forth
[05:51] <ryanturner> LDAP blew up and things went very, very badly for about a month.
[05:52] <ryanturner> But thats what happens when you fire your windows AND linux guy at the same time who are in charge of ldap/ad
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> if i use the ip# or server name directoy and dont browse for  the  samba  shares - then they  all  work..  but  not 'browseable' or seen when scanning
[05:52] <ryanturner> next guy to come in had no idea what was going on.
[05:52]  * Bsims grins I still got a Novell 5.0 box
[05:52] <ryanturner> Dr_Willis, yeah I've had that problem for sure. Turns out my router was getting lazy IRRC.
[05:52] <ryanturner> "no moar traffic for you!"
[05:53] <ryanturner> nine_ how does my name scare you? It's just... my name.
[05:53] <Bsims> good lord windows craps itself trying to read ipx
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> ryanturner:  been through 3 routers..  but ive not really   had the lan going  with  the  latest one..
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> been trimming  down  my home  network of 6+ Pc's ;)
[05:53] <Bsims> the joys of a legacy accounting package
[05:54] <ryanturner> Bsims ipx is still used?
[05:54] <Guest_> Any tips for running an ubuntu apache server?
[05:54] <Bsims> ryanturner: not really... but this is an ancent bit of software... and for my sins I maintain it
[05:54] <ryanturner> I remember when I studied for my CCNA and had to learn IPX info
[05:54] <Bsims> it does speak an early dialect of IP
[05:55] <ryanturner> Never ever seen IPX in use.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> doom and duke nukem3d games years ago. :)
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> could do  ipx i  recall
[05:55] <Bsims> ryanturner: heh you wouldn't... it was hotcrap when win 98 was new
[05:55] <ryanturner> Yeah when that was, I was in middle school.
[05:55] <Bsims> ryanturner: get off my lawn
[05:56] <ryanturner> hahaha
[05:56] <Bsims> My AARP card stands for Armed And Really Pissed
[05:56] <ryanturner> I said that to a few kids a while ago.  They taunted me and I called the cops.
[05:56] <ryanturner> Then I realized I was acting like a grumpy old man and I'm only in my 20
[05:56] <ryanturner> 's
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> but your yard is  still amess...
[05:57] <Bsims> ryanturner: heh I just used a supersoaker... the old ones that had 60ft+ range
[05:57] <ryanturner> yeah too busy on IRC to clean it up.
[05:57] <ryanturner> IRC and Minecraft.
[05:57] <Wizard> Why was seamonkey deleted from repo? :(
[05:57] <ryanturner> and then when somebody is looking I pull a terminal up
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> lack of a maintainer is the common reason Wizard
[05:57] <Wizard> :o
[05:57] <Transhumanist> Virtual Box can't create its virtual disk on the target HD because it's FAT32 and thus max file size of 4 gig. Any ideas or will I have to find a disk that can support large files?
[05:58] <Bsims> ryanturner: hey now I /like/ urxvt and screen
[05:58] <Wizard> Dr_Willis, too bad :/
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Wizard:  cant say i really  noticed it  missing.  could be it got  renamed..
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> !info seamonkey
[05:58] <ryanturner> Bsims, yeah but it also looks like Im actually doing something
[05:58] <Wizard> It wasn't, web changelogs say clearly: deleted.
[05:59]  * Bsims notes I actually had an account on a IBM AS/400 now i series... before a pc better than my trash-80
[05:59] <ryanturner> so my girlfriend gets off my back and thinks Im doing boring, dorky things.
[05:59] <Wizard> LOL
[05:59] <ryanturner> My dad's workplace still is centered on an AS400
[05:59] <Transhumanist> haha i do that too
[05:59] <ryanturner> Its kind of funny.
[05:59]  * Bsims is very careful not to mention I know cobol/400 rpg/400 and db2/400
[05:59]  * Wizard arrived to work, I'm first in my room, so I don't have to pretend anything ;P
[05:59] <ryanturner> :D
[06:00] <ryanturner> This Intel G530 is *not* crap, surprisingly. dual 2.4ghz 2mb cache
[06:00]  * Dr_Willis is ircing from his cellphone with a full  sized keyboard in front of it...
[06:00] <ryanturner> $45USD