[00:01] <bazhang> * [nogo] (~user@122-124-130-97.dynamic.hinet.net): user  ban dodging in -ot
[01:12] <bazhang> showing an oddly truncated sources.list ; mixing repos between karmic and maverick and now says its fixed.
[03:05] <bazhang> multiple trolling in -ot
[03:18] <bazhang> thank goodness he quit
 dalnetz flirt plz
[03:36] <bazhang> Pici, nogo is ban evading in -ot
[03:36] <bazhang> aka gobo , chonema
[03:37] <Pici> eh?
[03:37] <bazhang> * [nogo] (~user@122-124-130-97.dynamic.hinet.net): user
[03:43]  * Pici sighs
[08:19] <collabra> just wondering why, after i've been allowed in #ubuntu,... that now i'm banned.
[08:19] <collabra> can someone please explain
[08:20] <bazhang> collabra, seems to be the whole argument about ubuntu desktop and server using different repos part
[08:21] <collabra> so there's no forgiveness in ubuntu?
[08:22] <collabra> i thought there was,.. i've been in the channel for the past 3 or 4 days
[08:22] <collabra> under collabra
[08:23] <bazhang> hmm. ban still in place
[08:24] <collabra> can you lift it please?
[08:24] <bazhang> collabra, you say you still entered the channel anyways?
[08:24] <collabra> i say i've been allowed for the past four days
[08:25] <collabra> check your records...
[08:25] <bazhang> collabra, and now suddenly not?
[08:25] <collabra> yes
[08:25] <Tm_T> collabra: did you discuss your ban here and it was removed?
[08:25] <collabra> no
[08:26] <collabra> not removed,.. discussed
[08:26] <bazhang> oh right
[08:26] <collabra> at least not formally
[08:26] <collabra> but truthfully,... i've been in the channel for the past four days
[08:27] <collabra> under the nick collabra
[08:27] <collabra> i thought the ban had been lifted
[08:28] <bazhang> nope still in place, just checked
[08:28] <Tm_T> thank you for your honesty, collabra
[08:28] <collabra> np,... can someone lift the ban?
[08:28] <bazhang> using a cloak perhaps?
[08:28] <collabra> no,...
[08:28] <collabra> i'm not that adept
[08:30] <collabra> the only thought i have now,... is that i was behind a router,... a simple netgear,... i'm no longer behind it,... i don't know if that made a difference.
[08:31] <collabra> i don't know...
[08:32] <collabra> but i enjoyed the channel before and for the past few days... i would like to be admitted back in.
[08:46] <collabra> do you have any record of my chats?
[08:46] <collabra> in the last days
[08:57] <collabra> anyway,.. i'd like to resolve this.... it doesn't have to happen today,.. i'll try again at another time.
[09:03] <bazhang> thought for certain he/she was told to come here to resolve first.
[14:49] <histo> I'm trying to point someone to a foreign language irc channel.  Is there a list somewhere?  They are looking for ubuntu bengali
[14:49] <bazhang> !loco
[14:50] <bazhang> bengali is bangladesh?
[14:51] <bazhang> guess so
[14:53] <IdleOne> I believe it is
[14:54] <bazhang> yep he gave it to tanvir
[14:56] <bazhang> histo, hi; was there something else you needed assistance with?
[14:58] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-ops-monitor  is a invite only channel?
[14:59] <bazhang> nope
[14:59] <bazhang> histo, please dont idle here, thanks.
[15:00] <gnomefreak> bazhang: .:09:57:37:. ==> Cannot join to channel #ubuntu-ops-monitor (You must be  invited)
[15:00] <bazhang> gnomefreak, weird, I just joined
[15:01] <bazhang> did katsumi really tell the user to crack open his computer to look at the wireless card?
[15:01] <gnomefreak> even doing it using /j i get same output
[15:01] <bazhang> bizarre
[15:02] <gnomefreak> bazhang: are you on the IRCC?
[15:02] <bazhang> gnomefreak, hah no way
[15:02] <gnomefreak> :)
[15:02] <IdleOne> chaneel was set to +i
[15:02] <IdleOne> hold on gnomefreak
[15:02] <bazhang> that would give me ops in -ot and havoc would result
[15:03] <gnomefreak> k
[15:03] <IdleOne> try now
[15:03] <gnomefreak> k
[15:03] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: thanks. are we setting +i again?
[15:03] <gnomefreak> we == you ;)
[15:03] <IdleOne> in that channel seems so
[15:04] <IdleOne> I didn't set it I just follow it :)
[15:04] <IdleOne> all I did was add a +I so you can join
[15:04] <gnomefreak> its on my auto join
[15:05] <IdleOne> yeah but if you are not in the invite list you can't join
[15:05] <IdleOne> now you are so problem solved
[15:05] <gnomefreak> oh
[15:05] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: thanks
[15:05] <IdleOne> sure thing
[15:05] <gnomefreak> brb i am going to try something
[15:06] <IdleOne> not sure why some gets +v on join and some don't :/
[15:07] <gnomefreak> yay it works. thanks again
[15:07] <IdleOne> no problem
[15:08] <bazhang> support from her seems to be: buy a different card
[15:09] <gnomefreak> that is bad support IMHO
[15:10] <bazhang> yep. first it was 'crack open your computer and take out the wireless card', now this
[15:11] <IdleOne> well if it ain't broke and you can't use it. buy a different one!
[15:11] <bazhang> and giving out completely wrong info about 64bit ubuntu
[15:11] <IdleOne> well a lot of that happens
[15:12] <IdleOne> nobody really knows why the site says not to use 64bit
[15:12] <bazhang> that was watching the channel for about 15 minutes alone
[15:12] <IdleOne> only real reason I can find is that flash is messed up
[15:12] <IdleOne> but flash works awesome for me in 64bit :/
[15:12] <IdleOne> so even that isn't a reason
[15:14] <IdleOne> saw a lot of FUD this morning, from qwert and katsumi
[15:14] <bazhang> ugh qwert
[15:14] <IdleOne> well not really FUD but dubious help
[15:15] <IdleOne> he had a user compile alsa for some reason but left him with a half compiled alsa
[15:15] <IdleOne> I saw this after the fact so couldn't really do much about it
[15:16] <bazhang> qwert did?
[15:16] <IdleOne> yup
[15:16] <IdleOne> couple hours back
[15:17] <IdleOne> worst part is that the user has intel ICH8 which should just work, probably only needed to unmute
[15:18] <bazhang> right abhijit hdaintel
[15:18] <IdleOne> yeah
[15:20] <bazhang> qwert is the same person who called ops in multiple channels to get technical help and was spoofing ops realname as his own, iirc
[15:22] <IdleOne> yes
[15:23] <IdleOne> he was spoofing mac0 yesterday and I made it clear that it was not acceptable.
[15:51] <gnomefreak> why do i get this feeling that mac0 was warned/kick/ban in the last week or 2
[15:53] <bazhang> qwert was an issue so not surprised if so (well still is)
[15:55] <IdleOne> gnomefreak: he/she was and still is to an extent
[15:55] <gnomefreak> ok
[16:11] <bazhang> rly
[16:22] <bazhang> offensive host on bhah
[16:23] <bazhang> nice.  Please feel free to read the logs :)
[16:30] <IdleOne> Qwert: this is not a support channel. for help with chanserv ask in #freenode
[16:30] <IdleOne> thank you.
[16:31] <IdleOne> annon: you said you wanted to ask about channel rules. Please ask.
[16:31] <Qwert> IdleOne: Well that still din't clear my query
[16:31] <IdleOne> Qwert: Like I said this is not a support channel. help with chanserv/nickserv/memoserv ask in #freenode.
[16:32] <Qwert> IdleOne: Oh.. Okay Thanks :)
[16:32] <IdleOne> welcome
[16:32] <annon> IdleOne: first off, I'm not trying to troll here, I want to clarify that. second, I read the rules and it says one should avoid offensive language regarding "war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, potentially illegal activities and suicide." I don't see how the word r007 and I said falls into that or is even offensive. I want it to be clarified because IMHO there's a big difference between banning offensive *behavior* and bann
[16:32] <annon> ing words which are perfectly neutral.
[16:32] <IdleOne> Now please /part this channel. there is a no idle rule here
[16:33] <bazhang> Qwert, please part the channel, thanks
[16:34] <Qwert> bazhang: Would you please spare a moment in PM. I understand I shouldn't spectate.
[16:34] <maco> Qwert: and thanks for stopping stealing my name
[16:34] <maco> oh. left already
[16:34] <bazhang> ugh
[16:34] <IdleOne> annon: it also says that Ubuntu irc channels are family friendly.  Please keep the language clean is all we are asking.
[16:35] <IdleOne> you are old enough and have enough common sense to know what words are acceptable
[16:36] <IdleOne> besides when you use terms like winshit, winblows etc. it makes you look like a fanboy. the product is called Windows. use it's name properly.
[16:37] <Qwert> bazhang: I'm sorry but would you spare a moment in private chat?
[16:37] <bazhang> Qwert, busy right now sorry
[16:37] <IdleOne> anything else annon ?
[16:37] <Qwert> bazhang: Thank you
[16:38] <annon> IdleOne: I respect that and you're finally the one who makes the rules and I'll respect that. but if I may offer my personal opinion, I do think you're going too far. it's not the words or the letters which are bad, it's the context. and protecting your son from seeing 4 letters in a particular order is completely missing the point, but that's not my decision to make. also, as I said, I wasn't the one who came up with "winshit".  No one seems to care about that.
[16:39] <IdleOne> thank you, I appreciate you understanding, for the record I didn't make the rules I do enforce them.
[16:40] <elky> Well, PMs are not monitored by us.
[16:40] <IdleOne> annon: nothing I can do about what people PM. I suggest you ignore it
[16:40] <annon> ok
[16:41] <IdleOne> again thanks for understanding. have a good day.
[16:41] <annon> you too.
[16:42] <bazhang> histo, hi
[16:42] <bazhang> histo, please dont idle here
[16:44] <bazhang> he's been idle here around two hours
[16:46] <topyli> true about katsumi32 btw
[16:46] <bazhang> really
[16:47] <IdleOne> he is sending racist PM's?
[16:47] <topyli> no no, being offensive in channels
[16:47] <IdleOne> he/she I haven't figured it out yet
[16:47] <IdleOne> oh
[16:49] <topyli> well he walks the line and pushes it from time to time, not always so gently. i haven't taken the time yet to talk to him more
[16:50] <topyli> also very good at sensing when it's best to /part just before someone removes him :)
[16:50] <IdleOne> heh
[16:50] <IdleOne> sign of a good troll
[16:51] <topyli> or a standard school kid :)
[16:51] <IdleOne> I was to busy with chasing girls in school
[16:52] <IdleOne> had no time for internet
[16:52] <IdleOne> not to mention it didn't exist in the 1920's
[16:52] <IdleOne> :/
[16:57] <topyli> iirc usenet was there in the 1920s
[16:57] <IdleOne> never used usenet
[16:57] <topyli> ooh sauna time
[16:58] <IdleOne> have a good sweat
[16:59] <maco> "have a nice nekkid time"?
[17:00] <IdleOne> haha
[17:25] <bazhang> the user bhah was quoting lines from #ubuntu in real time (after he had been banned and removed)
[17:29] <elky> there's only so much we can do. at least he's not game to disrupt #u now though.
[17:30] <bazhang> okay
[18:46] <erUSUL> i do not have lynx installed but tried with w3m and only get strnag binary. is maybe karlo trying to missconfigure people's terminals?
[18:46] <erUSUL> someone should take a look
[18:47] <erUSUL> pretty harmless but ...
[18:49] <erUSUL> is a gzip file http://paste.ubuntu.com/495993/
[18:50] <erUSUL> ..... zZZzzzZZZZzzzzZZZ
[18:51] <erUSUL> ok; its an !ops call then
[18:51] <erUSUL> bye
[18:55] <Amaranth> It was an advertisement or something, some stupid Mac vs PC text and a reference to domain names for sell
[19:35] <Flannel> Hi collabra, how can we help you?
[19:36] <collabra> curious if anyone has made a decision concerning my ban from #ubuntu
[19:36] <collabra> i would like to return
[19:37] <Flannel> collabra: It's not a decision, it's a discussion and understanding that we need to have.
[19:38] <Flannel> collabra: And I'd be more than happy to have that discussion with you right now if you've got time and are willing.
[19:39] <collabra> my understanding is that you were probably right in that linux is ever configurable, to the point you may have been able to take the persons concern about going from ubuntu desktop to ubuntu server... I give you that,...
[19:39] <collabra> i was in a poor mood, i admit.... and i apologize to you for the way i acted
[19:39] <collabra> sure...
[19:40] <Flannel> collabra: That's good.  Should we expect that sort of behavior whenever you're in a poor mood? or was it a one-time thing?
[19:42] <collabra> i've acted out before in the channel,... nothing to the degree of that night,... i'm starting to realize that the most important thing is helping the 'clients' solve their problems... i have no excuse and no,... it's not typical behavior of mine.
[19:43] <Flannel> Good to hear.
[19:43] <Flannel> collabra: as an aside, are you all sorted out on the fact that all flavors of Ubuntu use the same repositories?
[19:44] <collabra> i understand that they do,... i also understand that a 'default' install of 'server' doesn't include them,... am i wrong...?
[19:45] <Flannel> collabra: Yeah.  That's inaccurate.
[19:45] <Flannel> All installs, server, kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu, etc, share the same repositories (https://archive.ubuntu.com or one of its mirrors)
[19:45] <collabra> hmmm....then i was given incorrect information in #ubuntu-server.... they told me they need to be enabled.
[19:46] <Flannel> If you do perform an install from an alternate (or server, or minimal) CD without being connected to the internet, they may be disabled in your sources.list (with the CD being the only repository enabled)
[19:46] <collabra> and that night, i was going off my own experience that i believe in 9.04 or 8 that they wern't enabled... again, i apologize.
[19:46] <collabra> to you and to the group
[19:47] <Flannel> collabra: No worries.  We've all had bad nights at some point.  The important thing is growing and learning from them.
[19:47] <Flannel> collabra: I've removed your ban in #ubuntu, please join there now to verify that I did it correctly.
[19:48] <collabra> i have to admit,... with my current knowledge,... i'm not a noob,... but absolutely not anywhere i ought to be for having used linux for roughly 5 years....
[19:49] <Flannel> collabra: Eh, there is no "should be here" benchmark.  It's actually evidence of how far we've come when people can use the OS without being forced to know all about its internals.
[19:49] <collabra> thank you Flannel,... i'm very glad having resolved this issue.... truly,...
[19:50] <collabra> yeah,...
[19:50] <collabra> this 'thing' is the most complicated piece of software i've ever used.... the learning curve is immense
[19:51] <collabra> an i admit i'm not raising it as i should
[19:51] <Flannel> Eh.  Again, one of the overarching goals is to make the learning curve as habitable as possible.  I wouldn't worry about it.
[19:52] <collabra> in the future, please,... i dunno,... it's in my personallity at times,... but i can be turned pretty quickly,... if you ever see me getting out of hand,. or giving bad advice,... please stop me... :)
[19:53] <Flannel> collabra: sounds good.  Anything else we can help with today?
[19:53] <collabra> i think it's the fact connections are hard to make...
[19:53] <collabra> no,.. thank you again Flannel: i look forward to working and learning with you.
[19:54] <collabra> have a good day....
[19:54] <Flannel> On the internet it's sometimes easy to forget that you're talking to real people on the other side of the screen, yeah.
[19:54] <Flannel> collabra: You too.
[19:56] <Tm_T> Flannel: well handled, thanks (:
[20:04] <Flannel> Tm_T: My pleasure
[21:29] <guntbert> It is not very important but as linuxvirus is old and there is !av, so I guess it could/should get dropped
[22:05] <guntbert> please have an ey on <spid3rxx> in #ubuntu - he seem a bit on the trollish side (backtrack, discussion,...)
[22:05] <guntbert> *eye
[22:05] <guntbert> *seems
[22:46] <IdleOne> I think songer is running a script. basically it tells people not to write in all capital letters or next time you will be removed
[22:47] <nhandler> Looks like you were right IdleOne
[22:47] <maco> jrib, IdleOne: why shouty shout?
[22:47] <nhandler> IdleOne: Why not PM first instead of removing?
[22:47] <maco> oh wait thats why
[22:47] <jrib> maco: because songer seemed like a bot
[22:47] <jrib> I was/am in pm with him
[22:47] <maco> yeah i said that and /then/ read back
[22:48] <IdleOne> nhandler: I should of tried that first. I suppose
[22:48] <IdleOne> should have
[22:49] <jrib> I'm not sure he understands me though, he's asking me how I am :/
[22:49] <nhandler> Across the board, I think we could do a better job of not using a remove/ban as a first line of defense. A PM (maybe combined with a short 10/15 minute quiet, autobleh's /at is nice) works wonders in most cases.
[22:49] <nhandler> jrib: Is it a bot? Language issue? Or something else?
[22:49] <jrib> nhandler: language issue, it's a person though
[22:50] <nhandler> Alright. That is at least one good thing. Maybe try using google translator to talk in his native language
[22:50] <erUSUL> IdleOne: what's up
[22:50] <EvilPhoenix> where can I post a recommendation for an Ubottu factoid?
[22:50] <IdleOne> hey erUSUL thanks for joining
[22:50] <erUSUL> np
[22:50] <jrib> EvilPhoenix: say: ubottu FOO is BAR
[22:51] <jrib> !ubottu | EvilPhoenix
[22:51] <IdleOne> Could you please explain to songer that he has to turn off that script
[22:51] <IdleOne> erUSUL: ^^
[22:51] <EvilPhoenix> jrib:  arigato gozaimasu (that's "thank you very much" in japanese)
[22:51] <IdleOne> at least in #ubuntu.
[22:52] <jrib> doing so IdleOne
[22:52] <maco> new visitor to #u-w says they know me and that theyve been banned for life in #defocus. i r confused.
[22:52] <erUSUL> IdleOne: ok; will do. it is my channel. i didn't realice it was script ;P
[22:53] <IdleOne> erUSUL: it's your channel?
[22:53] <nhandler> maco: Who is the user?
[22:53] <erUSUL> IdleOne: #ubuntu-es ? well *my* is not right word i'm op there
[22:53] <maco> anastasius
[22:53] <IdleOne> he was in #ubuntu and the script was triggered
[22:54] <IdleOne> erUSUL: hehe, it's fine if he wants to use it in -es but in #ubuntu if he can turn it off, that would be better
[22:54] <erUSUL> it is now in #ubuntu-es
[22:54] <nhandler> maco: Well, I have no clue what that #defocus comment was about. Tell him he can PM freenode staff about issues with that channel
[22:56] <IdleOne> erUSUL: thanks for your help :)
[22:58] <IdleOne> I have been a little fast on the draw lately, I apologize for that. I am going to make a conscious effort to be more diplomatic.
[22:58] <maco> nhandler: was trying to name a channel where we met when i said i didnt know them
[22:58] <IdleOne> and less kick happy
[22:58] <IdleOne> dinner time
[23:07] <erUSUL> IdleOne: claims it is another person with his nick ---
[23:11] <jrib> erUSUL: yeah just said the same thing to me.  I think he's just unaware of some script he has installed
[23:38] <IdleOne> why doesn't nogo come up in BT?
[23:38] <bazhang> gobo chonema hinet.net
[23:38] <bazhang> at least 3 bans in -ot and he keeps coming back
[23:38] <IdleOne> nogo ban evading in -ot
[23:38] <bazhang> Flannel, you around?
[23:39] <jandtd> so what with this ban please
[23:39] <jandtd> didnt happen before
[23:39] <IdleOne> before when?
[23:40] <jandtd> last time I was here
[23:40] <bazhang> IdleOne, we'd better let someone else handle this
[23:40] <IdleOne> probably right
[23:41] <jandtd> I wasnt told I was banned
[23:41] <bazhang> jandtd, someone should be along shortly to help you.
[23:42] <jandtd> ok
[23:42] <jandtd> but why Im banned?
[23:44] <jandtd> can someone explain?
[23:47] <jandtd> so where should I go if this is not thr right place
[23:47] <IdleOne> jandtd: this is the right place, you just need to be patient and someone will help you soon.
[23:48] <jandtd> soon? this is IRC no?
[23:49] <bazhang> jandtd, please be patient.
[23:49] <jandtd> just very odd
[23:49] <jandtd> waiting.........
[23:50] <jandtd> Ive never been banned fron anywhere before
[23:53] <IdleOne> jandtd: you can join #ubuntu now.
[23:53] <jandtd> thanks  but why the ban in the first place?
[23:54] <IdleOne> There has been a lot of abuse from your IP range and we were forced to set a broad ban. I fixed it so you can join.
[23:54] <IdleOne> please join #ubuntu now and enjoy your stay
[23:54] <jandtd> oh ok so Its not me personly thats been banned
[23:55] <IdleOne> Why is it you ask the same questions every time.
[23:55] <IdleOne> join #ubuntu, follow the rules and Please leave here now.
[23:55] <bazhang> nogo left -ot
[23:58] <IdleOne> I am not waiting all night for this troll to join the channel for 1 minute and then leave. I removed the +e I set.
[23:59] <IdleOne> jandtd: feel free to wait here for someone to help you. sorry I can't.
[23:59] <jandtd> hey I just tryed to join still banned


[12:18] <belkinsa> slickymaster, ping.
[13:20] <slickymaster> belkinsa: pong
[13:31] <belkinsa> I drafted up a small outline for the brainstorm on a wiki page.
[13:32] <belkinsa> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs/TeamWikiPageBrainstorm
[13:32] <jenni> [ NewDocs/TeamWikiPageBrainstorm - Community Ubuntu Documentation ] - https://j.mp/1lKpqz0
[14:31] <slickymaster> belkinsa: I'm sorry but something came up and I' need to postponed our meeting an hour and a half
[14:32] <slickymaster> is it alright with you<'
[14:32] <belkinsa> It is, but I need to postpone it for seven hours.  I have to work at my part-time job
[14:33] <slickymaster> hmm
[14:33] <belkinsa> But you can work on the wiki page with your ideas.
[14:33] <slickymaster> ok, I'll take a look at it, and will get back to you here
[14:33] <belkinsa> Thanks.
[14:34] <slickymaster> have a good one :)
[14:34] <slickymaster> ->
[18:10] <slickymaster> belkinsa: I only had some time to spare so I haven't done much
[18:10] <slickymaster> Hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to be more productive
[18:11] <slickymaster> anyway, for your review and feedback, here's what I've done: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs/ContactPage
[18:11] <jenni> [ NewDocs/ContactPage - Community Ubuntu Documentation ] - https://j.mp/1d6fKJv
[18:18] <slickymaster> and of course that page is already linked in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs/TeamWikiPageBrainstorm
[18:18] <jenni> [ NewDocs/TeamWikiPageBrainstorm - Community Ubuntu Documentation ] - https://j.mp/1lKpqz0


[09:43] <John85> hi :)
[09:45] <John85> just downloaded a deb package,  have no idea how to install them,  tried Gdebi,  keeps crashing
[12:26] <j020> heya, anyone here?
[12:28] <hateball> Sure
[12:28] <hateball> Do you have a question j020 ?
[12:30] <j020> em, i was wondering if there's anything known about kde connect (on kubuntu) and issues connecting when phone has low battery? I notice my phone sometimes doesn't show up when i boot up my pc and it seems (after using for a week) that only happens if my phone has <20% battery or something
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:30] <j020> \o
[12:31] <hateball> j020: could be your phone has a power saving mode that kills off background processes like KDE Connect when low battery?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> j020, never noticed, usually I don't let the phone battery get below 30%
[12:32] <hateball> On my phone which runs Android 7, sometimes the Doze function will suspend KDE connect if the screen is not active
[12:32] <hateball> So the computer wont see the phone until I wake the phone
[12:32] <j020> i was gone a few times for a day or so without charger, that's why. i thought so, but there's a switch for allowing unlimited internet access regardless of other settings or something in the app settings, which i turned on for kde conect
[12:32] <j020> maybe that's broken or something
[12:33] <hateball> Well data is one thing, the app might still be suspended to save power, regardless if it uses data or not
[12:33] <j020> yeah but the description of that setting makes it sound like it's allowed to do whatever it wants, including not being suspended. mind you, i have a phone with limited ram so it might still be suspended
[12:34] <hateball> At any rate there should be a setting for that behavior in your phone, so it would be easy enough to find out and test
[12:34] <j020> i'll make sure to do that, thx
[12:38] <j020> if i find anything out i'll see if i can get that added to the wiki, bc it took me a while to notice that correlation, stupidly enough. and the wiki's action list is pretty much "make sure there's no firewall" which is super frustrating when everything points to that wiki
[12:38] <j020> anywho, thanks a bunch for the help, back to work it is.
[16:59] <francish> Hello,
[16:59] <francish> Comics / bande dessinée ne fonctionne plus depuis la dernière mise à jour KDE.
 Good Day everyone!
[19:04] <_Wens_> Hi I need help. Kubuntu 17.04 + backports. Plasma segmentation fault many times a day. Log - https://pastebin.com/smxXbQZx


 Thanks
[22:27] <dax> did Mr. Dale do this last time around too
[22:34] <elky> that's his 2nd (at least) visit to complain about someone since the ban got lifted
[22:34] <elky> and yes i do seem to recall him attempting to police people last time too
[22:34] <dax> fourth
[22:34]  * dax looked
[22:44]  * elky nods


[00:50]  * seattlegaucho wonders what valorie is talking about ;)
[01:54] <valorie> seattlegaucho: responding to bkerensa's question about GSoC
[01:54] <valorie> [15:08] <bkerensa> [17:09:57] valorie: do you know how GSoC money is handled?
[01:54] <valorie> [15:08] <bkerensa> [17:10:04] Ubuntu is going to apply this year
[01:54] <valorie> [15:08] <bkerensa> [17:10:12] but we need to sort out who gets money
[01:54] <valorie> [15:08] <bkerensa> [17:10:16] and who signs contract
[01:54] <valorie> [15:08] <bkerensa> [17:10:22] since Canonical is not Ubuntu
[01:54]  * valorie goes away again
[01:56] <seattlegaucho> cool ... thx


[02:10] <lotuspsychje> anyone else had a gnome-shell crash during last updates on -desktop?
[06:08] <kr-428> Folks; anyone can point me how to revert gdm theme to "stock GNOME" in 20.04? The approaches learnt in previous versions don't seem to work anymore...
[07:27] <pickledegg> Hi there, is there a bug report for openvpn?
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> pickledegg: ask your specific issue into the channel, volunteers might know
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> pickledegg: see also #ubuntu-quality for known bugs
[09:41] <georgelappies> quick question friends, if no using 20.04 from install from daily image, do I need to do anything special when it hits live?
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> !final | georgelappies
[09:43] <georgelappies> thanks
[11:54] <howarth> Anyone else having problems with this mornings package updates?
[11:54] <howarth> I found that the update of accountsservices caused all hell to break loose.
[11:55] <howarth> now I get crashes in gdm3 after logging in
[11:55] <howarth> A crash in /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-session-worker
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> howarth: yeah i had a gnome-shell crash during updates
[12:16] <howarth> Weirdly , I seem to have stabilized my machine
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> after that, i rebooted fine into gnome
[12:16] <howarth> I first tried going to proposed-updates with 'apt-get update' and
[12:17] <howarth> 'apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> im staying off -proposed myself
[12:17] <howarth> using /etc/apt/preferences.d/99-downgrade-proposed
[12:18] <howarth> I wasn't on proposed when all hell broke loose
[12:18] <howarth> only tried in to see if they missed a required associated dependency
[12:19] <howarth> As I said, weirdly coming back from proposed-updates to updates with the downgrade method seems to have eliminated the crashes (weirdly)
[12:20] <howarth> I use the method described here.... http://www.webupd8.org/2013/11/how-to-downgrade-proposed-repository.html
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> the users choice howarth
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> but for testing cases, sure why not
[12:21] <howarth> I couldn't deal with the constant crashes from today's updates... fortunately that seemed to have purged out the problem
[12:22] <howarth> One nice benefit was that it left me on the newer 5.4.0-23 kernel
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> howarth: you know if there's a bug ID on that yet?
[12:23] <howarth> Haven't looked yet but I did click to send the bug reports back upstream
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> same auto report this morning here
[12:26] <howarth> The accountsservices launchpad doesn't show anything
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> howarth: yeah there's a difference between filing bugs yourself, and auto reports to canonical
[12:27] <howarth> I'm assuming that one is key... I known trying to manually reinstall it would knock the display back to a screen
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> howarth: those crashes do get stored in a hidden launchpad url, they can see
[12:28] <howarth> Well so far so good here...
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> cause crash reports could hold sensitive info, the public doesnt need to see
[12:29] <howarth> I am back on the 0.6.55-0ubuntu11 from updates but without the previous crashes after going to proposed-upgrades and coming back again
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> howarth: can you check /var/crash to see if you got gnome-shell crashes too?
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> !info gdm3
[12:29] <howarth> I saw that as well but not now since I went to proposed-updates and then downgraded back to updates
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> !info gdm-session-worker
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> whats that version you talk about?
[12:30] <howarth> That version is the accountsservices which was in todays updates
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> oh
[12:31] <howarth> The update set that I applied this morning when all hell broke loose was
[12:33] <howarth> accountsservice:amd64 libaccountsservice0:amd64 command-not-found:all python3-commandnotfound:all gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0:amd64  libharfbuzz0b:amd64  libharfbuzz-icu0:amd64  libltdl7:amd64  nodejs:amd64 libnode64:amd64 nodejs-doc:all pinentry-curses:amd64 pinentry-gnome3:amd64
[12:34] <howarth> IMHO, accountservices seems the likely culprit
[12:34] <howarth> FYI, when proposed updates didn't fix the new breakage, I tried manually downgrading to  0.6.55-0ubuntu10 but that didn't work
[12:35] <howarth> At that point I used the /etc/apt/preferences.d/99-downgrade-proposed trick to downgrade back from proposed-updates to updates and everything suddenly worked correctly again
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> seems like it has happened before howarth
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> bug #1832865
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> so seems like its a dejavu bug we getting
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> aha, bug #1843982
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> added fossa tag, and rls incoming
[12:43] <howarth> Try the dist-upgrade to proposed-updates followed by downgrade back to updates voodoo and see if it works for you
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> no, ill await this one mate :p
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> got some other bugs that i wait updates from aswell
[12:44] <howarth> I couldn't deal with all those crashes
[12:59] <takov751> greetings i have a quick question. I am missing the mediaplayer indicator in gnome 3.36. Do i need to install a package manually by any chance?
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> takov751: i assume you talk about rhythmbox ?
[13:09] <takov751> No. There is a mediaplayer indicator which shows and controls media apps ,however i just saw its only support up to 3.32
[13:10] <takov751> At the monent
[13:10] <takov751> 3.36 is still not supported
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> welcome felco
[13:57] <felco> hello!
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> 26 april felco
[13:57] <felco> can I dist-upgrade yet =D
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> the users choice felco
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> wich release are you on now?
[13:58] <felco> is 20.04 avaliable?
[13:58] <felco> 19.10
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> best await final
[15:41] <qwertuttyty> The xCHI doesn 't work VL805. AMD fm2+ IOMMU anable.  You should go upstream to kernel.org
[17:59] <qwertuttyty> I am not sure that my PCI PCI VIA VL805 can be flashed most likely not impossible the Board manufacturer does not have any information about flashing this Board. Only if viewed on the VIA website. The kernel developers have stopped testing xchi VIA VL805 so it still doesn't work? In other words, it is impossible to fix it by adding a patch to the kernel for xchi VIA VL805, or there is no one or they do not want to,  there is no in
[17:59] <qwertuttyty> t in xchi VIA VL805 to make it work? Windows no problem with VL805 have driver. Not need update xchi VIA VL805 flash. this is a separate usb board. What to do, use usb 3.1 or 4.0 or not VL805?
[18:03] <qwertuttyty> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4KpptR76zb/
[18:13] <qwertuttyty> I am uncomfortable, I do not know English. They know that the VL805 is not working. I correctly understood that it was necessary that there were a lot of complaints from the owners of VL805 so that they fix it?
[18:20] <qwertuttyty> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sYQvHHmWNc/
[18:27] <qwertuttyty> Is there a list of manufacturers or chips  USB that kernel 5.6 will work with? I take it, no?
[18:35] <qwertuttyty> Buying for good luck or asking (reading) how the usb chip works for those who have already used this chip in linux while I see only such an options or use Windows for VL805.
[19:13] <qwertuttyty> http://billauer.co.il/blog/2019/07/via-vl805-superspeed-pcie-linux/ Orico but i have not orico. But it seems to be the same. One of the Chinese companies which are many.
[19:21] <qwertuttyty> So 99% of the boards and chips are Chinese-made and Chinese companies.
[19:26] <qwertuttyty> usb the boards USA or GB or RU or Idia or Germany or EU?
[19:27] <qwertuttyty> no, only Chines. Raspberry pi only  GB
[19:28] <qwertuttyty> apple for me not interesting
[19:29] <qwertuttyty> usb the boards companies USA or GB or RU or Idia or Germany or EU? no, only Chinese. Raspberry pi only  GB
[19:30] <oerheks> interesting china rant.. did you check your sources?
[19:34] <qwertuttyty> JP? for PC?
[19:43] <qwertuttyty> I did not understand the question. And I'm not a Chinese. It is better not to philosophize and write only on business. Philosophical questions are poorly translated. https://translate...
[19:56] <gst568923> I have tested xubuntu 20.04 beta but I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1865130/comments/62
[19:56] <gst568923> this is my log: https://pastebin.com/H6suBBm3
[19:58] <oerheks> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450 .. that is an old one, radeon works guaranteed with ati 5xxx and up.
[20:01] <gst568923> oerheks I have been using that graphics card for more than 10 years with the open source radeon driver and I have not had any major problems, except that I am reporting
[20:43] <valorie> gst568923: did you link that on the qatracker?
[20:44] <valorie> reporting bugs here does not get them to the developers who need to see them
[20:45] <gst568923> valorie I have linked this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1865130/comments/62
[20:45] <valorie> excellent
[20:46] <valorie> thanks for your contribution
[20:48] <gst568923> valorie I'm trying `vbetool dpms on` to re-start the LCD black screen for the LVDS interface, but not works :(
[20:48] <valorie> :(
[22:28] <magic_ninja_work> 13 days. You all rocking and rolling?
[23:11] <Bashing-om> o/ - once more - into the fray :P


[06:34] <magespawn> good morning
[08:28] <ra1v3n> good morning
[09:04] <Squirm> Morning
[09:04] <Kilos> morning Squirm and everyone else
[09:05] <ra1v3n> morning
[10:55] <ra1v3n> ciao 4 now
[13:33] <Squirm> Such chatter today :D
[14:12] <magespawn> hard to get a word in
[14:13] <Kilos> hehe
[14:38] <magespawn> chat later all
[16:36] <Kilos> evening all
[16:37] <Kilos> hi Langjan
[16:37] <Langjan> Hello Kilos are you well?
[16:37] <Kilos> good news. packet was delivered ty
[16:37] <Kilos> ill get it this week
[16:37] <Kilos> flu still same but ok ty and you sir
[16:37] <Langjan> Great, thks for the good news
[16:37] <Kilos> i just woke up
[16:38] <Kilos> oh Langjan
[16:38] <Kilos> and
[16:38] <Langjan> Hope you had a good rest, sounds like it - slept since yesterday?
[16:38] <Kilos> my boetie said he will give me 10k towards the trip
[16:39] <Langjan> Praise the Lord for boeties like that
[16:39] <Kilos> yesterday i was away at cop shop doing the proof of residence thing
[16:40] <Langjan> OK was worried that the sheep were out of hand
[16:40] <Kilos> thursday going to apply for pension
[16:40] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:40] <Langjan> Good
[16:40] <Kilos> neighbour taking me
[16:40] <ra1v3n> hi
[16:41] <Kilos> so slowly things are happening
[16:41] <Kilos> hi ra1v3n
[16:41] <Langjan> You should have done the pension thing long ago, its time some of our hard-earned assets are returned
[16:41] <Langjan> Hope you have lots of patience...
[16:41] <Kilos> i tried before through the workmans compensation
[16:42] <Langjan> and time
[16:42] <Kilos> time for?
[16:42] <Langjan> Nothing from WCA?
[16:42] <Langjan> To cut all the black tape at pension office
[16:42] <Kilos> nope they went bankrupt at the time so sent me a letter and said i was healed
[16:43] <Langjan> Lmga!


[00:01] <seele> DaSkreech: afaik anyone with kde-neo should have yesterday's trunk
[00:03] <DaSkreech> ok
[00:08] <seele> hum.. i should probably pack. i probably wont have much time to do it tomorrow morning
[00:08] <jjesse> agreed
[00:08] <jjesse> i have to do the same
[00:11] <jjesse> loading up laptop right now with movies/videos for the flights to SFO tomorrow
[00:12] <seele> Riddell: does kevin have his own kilt or is he wearing yours?
[00:13] <Riddell> seele: it's mine
[00:13] <seele> you and kevin are quite close then? that seems a bit intimate to share a kilt :P
[00:19] <Riddell> seele: I think I lost my toothbrush, can I borrow yours?
[00:19] <Riddell> probably a good thing seele missed that :)
[00:19] <seele> wba
[00:20] <seele> hmm?
[00:21] <Riddell> rumour has it I share my IRC session too
[00:21] <seele> oh yes.. that was a bit confusing
[00:21] <seele> you're quite the open love kindof guy
[00:22] <Riddell> seele: I hope you've packed your swimsuit, that hot tub would be a shame to miss :)
[00:24]  * DaSkreech stays away from toothbrush mentions
[00:24] <seele> there is only one person i share a toothbrush with!
[00:25] <seele> Riddell: damn, and here i was going to "forget" it.  i guess i can't now that i've had a reminder :P
[00:36] <nixternal> Riddell: I get in to San Fran at 16:55
[00:39] <nixternal> seele: you already got a ride to the hotel?
[00:39] <nixternal> you get in less than an hour after I do
[00:43] <Riddell> nixternal: she gets in five minutes after you
[00:44] <nixternal> 17:47 is what she put on the wiki page
[00:44] <Riddell> right
[00:45] <Riddell> well best to share, the taxis are expensive, >$120 for us
[00:45] <Riddell> and obviously make sure to get a receipt so you can claim it back
[00:45] <nixternal> oh wow
[00:46] <nixternal> jjesse: what is your cab situation like?
[00:46] <Riddell> you can also get the caltrain to sunnyvale but goodness knows if it runs on sundays or how you get from its station to the hotel
[00:46] <nixternal> I am researching that info now
[00:52] <nixternal> for $9 you can go from the airport to the hotel via public transportation
[00:53] <ScottK> nixternal: Or find a Canonical employee to share with and say, "Since you're going to expense this anyway, mind paying for it?"
[00:53] <nixternal> they are all there already I am sure
[00:56] <nixternal> cool, if nobody chimes up, I will go ahead and reserve a shuttle ride...$35
[00:59] <nixternal> jpds: you around at all? if you wanted to ride together, we need to figure out where to meet up at
[01:08] <nixternal> ooh, $25 for a shuttle...getting cheaper!
[01:10] <DaSkreech> But wait order now and we wil throw in a backup rickshaw!!!
[01:10]  * ScottK-laptop flings another try at kde4bindings at his PPA ...
[01:15] <jjesse> nixternal only $25 now?
[01:15] <jjesse> using supershuttle/
[01:15] <jjesse> ?
[01:16] <nixternal> another shuttle
[01:16] <jjesse> ah
[01:16] <nixternal> I am guessing, not matter which way I look at it, it is probably going to be 2+ hours from the airport to the hotel
[01:16] <jjesse> ouch
[01:17] <nixternal> so I am just debating taking public transportation
[02:36] <NCommander> Home. Finally ****ing home
[03:57] <ScottK> NCommander: My next plan for kde4bindings is to just disable anythin *nepomuk* and see if that builds.
[03:57] <ScottK> anythin/anything.
[03:57] <ScottK> If anyone objects to that idea ^^^ speak up quick.
[04:05] <r0dzilla> good evening
[04:05] <ScottK> Good evening.
[04:05] <r0dzilla> trying out the 4.2 beta and I'm getting an error in adept:
[04:05] <r0dzilla> http://pastebin.ca/1278482
[04:06] <ScottK> A fix for that's already been uploaded.
[04:06] <r0dzilla> ah update sources again?
[04:06] <ScottK> Are you on Intrepid from the PPA or Jaunty?
[04:06] <r0dzilla> intrepid/ppa
[04:07] <ScottK> Dunno if that one has been fixed or not.
[04:07] <r0dzilla> jaunty is the next release right?
[04:08] <ScottK-laptop> Yes.
[04:08] <ScottK-laptop> It's really not suitable for people to use at the moment, but that doesn't stop some people.
[04:08] <nixternal> it stopped me :p
[04:08] <r0dzilla> lol sometimes I like to try bleeding edge but then you find out why it's called bleeding edge sometimes
[04:10] <ScottK-laptop> nixternal: Yeah, me too.
[04:20] <ScottK-laptop> nixternal: If you've got a few minutes it might be nice to look at the kdesdk changes that got uploaded to Jaunty today and see if the experimental PPA needs update too.
[04:22] <ScottK-laptop> OK, flung that piece of stinking .... at the wall.  We'll see if it sticks.
[04:22] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: Just uploaded another try at kde4bindings.
[05:18] <seele> nixternal: already sharing a cab with steve conklin who comes in at 17:40.  if you didn't reserve super shuttle we could probably put another person in it
[05:19] <nixternal> seele: nah, you guys won't be leaving the airport until around 9pm at the earliest since you have some going through customs
[05:19] <nixternal> I am probably going to be green and just take public transportation :)
[05:19] <nixternal> $7
[05:19] <nixternal> can't beat that!
[05:19] <nixternal> might have to walk a little bit, but that never hurt anyone
[05:19] <seele> nixternal: customs?  we're both from the US?
[05:20] <nixternal> your shuttle ride with greg and jonathan though, he said some have to go through customs
[05:20] <seele> that will take forever
[05:20] <seele> what are you talking about?
[05:20] <nixternal> 1.5 hours
[05:20] <nixternal> what greg just told me in another channel
[05:20] <seele> i have no idea what you are talking about
[05:20] <seele> i am taking a taxi
[05:20] <nixternal> oh
[05:20] <nixternal> I thought you were doing the shuttle with jjesse and them
[05:20] <seele> the shuttle takes forever
[05:20] <seele> no?
[05:21] <seele> i am sharing a taxi
[05:21] <nixternal> ahh, OK, my mistake
[05:21] <nixternal> that is about $100 isn't it :)
[05:21] <seele> split 2 ways and it is half the time
[05:21] <nixternal> so if it is just you and steve, I am down with sharing a cab with you guys
[05:21] <seele> ok
[05:22] <seele> what's your email so i can get you in on it
[05:22] <nixternal><PHONE_NUMBER> is my cell...I will probably be outside chilling in the much nicer weather :)
[05:22] <nixternal><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:23] <seele> what airline?
[05:24] <nixternal> southwest, flight 833, arrive at 4:55pm
[05:24] <seele> ok.. trying to figure out what terminal youre coming in from
[05:24] <nixternal> terminal 1
[05:25] <nixternal> boarding area b
[05:25] <nixternal> what are you coming in on?
[05:26] <seele> united.. terminal 3
[05:28] <nixternal> ok, that gives me time to cut through the domestic garage and catch up with you
[05:28] <nixternal> so you come in directly across the airport from me
[05:29] <seele> i think steve comes in at terminal 1 as well
[05:29] <seele> from alabama
[05:29] <seele> i hope there are no delays tomorrow.. it started snowing in DC
[05:29]  * nixternal looks at the wiki
[05:29] <nixternal> it stopped snowing tonight
[05:31] <seele> not going to miss DC.  2, 2, 6 and rain, 11 and rain, 4
[05:32] <seele> and those are the highs
[05:32] <nixternal> seele: steve can pay, he works for canonical and he can expense it :p
[05:32] <seele> nixternal: hah, i dont care either way.  i like paying for stuff so i can put the points on my cc
[05:32] <nixternal> hehe
[05:32] <seele> i get 1% on everything and 3% on my top 5
[05:32] <seele> and for ever $200 back i get another $50
[05:32] <nixternal> groovy, put it on your card and I will give you cash, hook ya up with some points :)
[05:32] <seele> and i pay it off every month, so it is free money
[05:35] <nixternal> seele: hey, we can take a super shuttle execucar sedan for $85
[05:35] <nixternal> we get it upon arrival...I could get that set up once I get there
[05:36] <nixternal> we can pull up to the hotel in style :)
[05:36] <ScottK> FYI, I'll fix the hppa kde4bindings FTBFS after I find out if the current one builds on armel.
[05:36] <nixternal> kde4bindings is kicking everyone's ass I think
[05:37] <nixternal> I overheard debian, fedora, and open suse having issues
[05:51] <ScottK> I'm pretty sure we're getting close.
[05:51] <ScottK> The HPPA FTBFS was just a brain fart on my part.
[07:25] <manchicken> I can't believe this...
[07:25] <manchicken> I'm actually rocking out on #ubuntu-fr.  Don't I feel accomplished.
[07:46] <Tonio_> hi there
[08:42] <apachelogger> waaah
[08:42] <apachelogger> http://www.last.fm/user/Smarter/library/music/Eiffel+65?sortOrder=desc&sortBy=plays
[08:43] <apachelogger> I really think smarter is way too young to even know of that song :P
[08:43] <apachelogger> Tonio_: ahoy, got internet access @ home yet?
[09:00] <Tonio_> apachelogger: are you there at the uds ?
[09:01] <apachelogger> Tonio_: nope, unfortunately I am too busy with work
[09:02] <Tonio_> :(
[09:02] <Tonio_> apachelogger: good point is that I'll really be able to contribute starting 2009 :)
[09:03] <apachelogger> :)
[09:03] <Tonio_> can't wait really, allong with having an appartment, that blown my mind up the last 3 month...
[09:03] <apachelogger> Tonio_: did you hear? policykit is going to be part of KDE 4.2
[09:04] <Tonio_> yep I saw that news ;)
[09:04] <Tonio_> pretty cook indeed !
[09:04] <Tonio_> apachelogger: now the question is : are kcm modules and so on going to use it ?
[09:04]  * apachelogger didn't notice yet
[09:05] <apachelogger> Tonio_: I guess we could steal an implementation from trunk (if they choose to add it post-4.2)
[09:06] <Tonio_> maybe yes.... as long as we can use packagekit, I'm happy :)
[09:07] <apachelogger> that would imply that we have a sensible for it though :P
[09:07] <apachelogger> oh, gotta go
[09:07] <apachelogger> cya
[09:07] <Tonio_> cya :)
[11:08] <chris062689> Anyone alive in here? :D
[11:46] <Dekans> hello guys
[11:46] <Dekans> I have a conflict with koffice 2 beta and KDE 4.2 beta
[11:46] <Dekans> kde-icons-oxygen conflicts with koffice-kde4-data
[11:46] <NCommander> hey all
[11:49] <NCommander> hey all
[12:01] <Dekans> it broke my dependencies tree
[12:31] <mcas> apachelogger: ping
[12:41] <r0dzilla> kde 4.2 ppa broke my dependencies tree...
[12:44] <Dekans> i'm not the only one \o/
[12:45] <Dekans> r0dzilla: do you have koffice 2 beta 3 installed ?
[12:45] <r0dzilla> no
[12:45] <r0dzilla> just kde 4.2 ppa
[12:46] <r0dzilla> this site seems to have a fix:  http://shreevatsa.wordpress.com/2006/04/16/dpkg-error-trying-to-overwrite-x-which-is-also-in-package-y/
[12:46] <Dekans> good to know
[12:47] <Dekans> let's find the correct package to force
[12:47] <r0dzilla> that site says the first package (AAA) in his example
[12:48]  * NCommander had a breakthrough w.r.t. to kde4bidnings
[12:50] <r0dzilla> hey that fixed mine
[12:50] <Dekans> it seems to work :)
[12:50] <r0dzilla> installing firefox now that it can find deps
[12:55] <Dekans> thanks r0dzilla
[12:56] <toma> Riddell: can packaging errors in intrepid be fixed or how does that work?
[12:57] <Riddell> toma: see StableReleaseUpdates for procedure for serious bugs
[13:02] <toma> Riddell: ah, good, i think an uninstallable package matches the requirements
[13:09] <Dekans> why is the oxygen theme ugly on gtk apps ?
[13:09] <Dekans> I just tried debian yesterday and I had nice firefox buttons
[13:58] <ephoenix> hey all
[14:00] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: So it looks like I got kde4bindings to get farther on armel.  Would you please have a look and see if you can figure the next step.
[14:01] <ephoenix> I have installed kde 4.2 and have broken dependencies with kdebase-runtime. How do I correct this problem?
[15:11]  * nixternal gets ready to leave...see you all in about 10 hours!
[15:12] <nixternal> +1<PHONE_NUMBER> - call or sms if you would like...if you have a blackberry, my PIN is 302A16ED - that is Three Zero Two Alpha One Six Echo Delta :p
[15:12] <nixternal> rgreening: see you tonight sweetheart :p
[15:12] <rgreening> lol
[15:12] <rgreening> you keep your hands to yourself :P
[15:13] <nixternal> getting ready to get ready
[15:13] <rgreening> I'm at the airport
[15:13] <nixternal> I made sure they hooked us up with a single bed
[15:13] <rgreening> lol.
[15:13] <nixternal> where are you flying in from again?
[15:13] <rgreening> pitcher or catcher?
[15:13] <rgreening> St. John's.
[15:13] <nixternal> how long of a flight?
[15:13] <rgreening> http://roderick-greening.blogspot.com
[15:13] <rgreening> read my post
[15:13] <nixternal> lazy ass
[15:13] <rgreening> lol
[15:14] <rgreening> the flight is 3hrs to Toronto, then 2 hr wait, can't remember how long to Calif from there...
[15:14]  * rgreening checks ticket...
[15:14] <nixternal> ya, you get into cali at like 8pm iirc
[15:15] <nixternal> I will already be at the hotel when you get there, so I will make sure to turn on the air conditioning so you don't overheat
[15:15] <nixternal> luckily, chicago isn't getting any snow today, we got it all yesterday
[15:15] <nixternal> but it is a whopping 6f
[15:15] <rgreening> correct... 7:57 or similar
[15:16] <rgreening> hah
[15:16] <rgreening> Im looking out the airport window.. cant see $hit
[15:16] <nixternal> -14c...brr it is cold
[15:16] <rgreening> Im really looking fwd to meeting everyone
[15:17] <rgreening> I see jr has already been hitting the hot tub
[15:17] <nixternal> I am looking forward to...ya I guess the same thing, but the night life aspect of the entire event :)
[15:17] <rgreening> lol.. karoke
[15:17] <nixternal> ya, I saw those pictures too....kind of scary :p
[15:17] <rgreening> hehe\
[15:17] <nixternal> I swear, JR has pics from every UDS where he is in some sort of water
[15:18] <nixternal> except for Boston, I saw him in a flashy convertable red car that had "Red Hat" on the license plate, and he was wearing a fedora
[15:18] <rgreening> he should come here... the water is extremely cold
[15:18] <nixternal> traitor!!!
[15:18] <rgreening> OMG
[15:18] <rgreening> lol
[15:19] <rgreening> so, what are the night time plans
[15:19] <nixternal> that I do not know
[15:20] <nixternal> I know I am scheduled to find a spot with live bands for Jono and jcastro
[15:20] <nixternal> one night the MOTU Council people are supposed to get together
[15:20] <nixternal> so that leaves the rest of the night life up in the air
[15:20] <rgreening> cool
[15:21] <rgreening> count me in
[15:21] <rgreening> I only need 1-2 hrs sleep a night :P
[15:21] <nixternal> I need about an hour more :)
[15:21] <rgreening> cool, I get to sleep in
[15:21] <nixternal> I can do 3 and hurt, but 4 to 6 is perfect
[15:21] <rgreening> HAH
[15:21] <nixternal> hahahahaha, nice
[15:22] <rgreening> I can see we'll get along great
[15:22] <nixternal> we can either use the bathtub for a) showering, or b) a keg :)
[15:22] <nixternal> I always go with b, because hotels have sinks
[15:22] <rgreening> ~twitter update Getting my demo of ufw-kde ready
[15:22] <kubotu> status updated
[15:23] <rgreening> hahah
[15:23] <rgreening> we can always steal someone elses shower
[15:23] <nixternal> alrighty, time to get ready to head out....see you tonight!
[15:23] <rgreening> kk
[15:23] <nixternal> that we can do!
[15:23] <rgreening> l8r
[15:23] <NCommander> nixternal, and rgreening
[15:23] <nixternal> yo
[15:23] <NCommander> I might be late to the party tonight :-/
[15:23] <rgreening> yo NCommander
[15:23] <NCommander> Rochester got a flash freeze
[15:23] <NCommander> Near whiteout
[15:23] <nixternal> NCommander: the party shall never end until you are passed out!
[15:23] <rgreening> bwhahaahhahahahahhhahha
[15:23] <NCommander> You have all lost the game!
[15:24]  * NCommander departs for breakfast
[15:24]  * nixternal goes...see ya'll in a bit
[15:24] <NCommander> cya
[15:24]  * jussi01 waves
[15:26] <rgreening> o/
[16:10] <Tonio_> hi everyone...
[16:10] <Tonio_> seele, Riddell: are you already in sunnyvale ?
[17:40] <ephoenix> back
[18:12] <NCommander> lool, care to chat on the topic of kde4bindings?
[18:26] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: You're looking into it then?
[18:26] <NCommander> On ARM?
[18:26] <ScottK-laptop> Yes
[18:26] <NCommander> I finally broke down and looked through sip
[18:26] <NCommander> I finally found the ****ing problem
[18:26] <ScottK-laptop> Kewl.
[18:26] <NCommander> It's in python-qt4, not kde4bindings
[18:26] <NCommander> python-qt4 doesn't properly handle qreal's on ARM
[18:26] <NCommander> anything trying to link against python-qt4 and use qreal will fly right into the same problem
[18:26] <ScottK-laptop> Let me know when you have a patch ...
[18:27] <NCommander> I probably won't have it until I get to UDS
[18:27] <ScottK-laptop> OK.
[18:27] <NCommander> And if you want it test built on ARM, might want to try next week :-)
[18:27] <ScottK-laptop> Yeah, well you're track record is pretty good.  I don't mind throwing a technically sound patch at the buildd's and seeing if it sticks.
[18:28] <NCommander> If this works, then we can remove some of the patches I've added to kde4libs :-)
[18:28] <NCommander> Yay for patch removals!
[18:31] <NCommander> bah, I knew I was forgetting something
[18:31]  * NCommander forgot his cell phones data cable
[19:05]  * NCommander grumbles
[19:06] <NCommander> Why do I keep making ~700 line patches
[19:06] <JontheEchidna> because you embrace pain!
[19:07] <manchicken> Mmm... Pain...
[19:07]  * NCommander hits JontheEchidna
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> :P
[19:09]  * NCommander *really* hopes this works
[20:08] <chris062689> Whats up?
[20:13] <chris062689> Hello, world?
[21:09] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger, ScottK: bug 272399
[21:10] <JontheEchidna> I probably need to do an SRU for that too
[21:11] <JontheEchidna> KDE 4.2 plasma applets use the "configure" button that triggers the crash everywhere (or at least the comic applet does now, and that's the most important applet :P)
[21:12] <ScottK-laptop> JontheEchidna: I got it.
[21:12] <JontheEchidna> cool, thanks
[21:13] <ScottK-laptop> Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main qt4-x11 4.4.3-1ubuntu4 (tar) [113MB]
[21:13] <ScottK-laptop> May be a few minutes though ...
[21:13] <smarter> the configure button doesn't crash here
[21:16] <ScottK-laptop> 98% [2 qt4-x11 111833872/113MB 99%] and it craps out ...
[21:16] <ScottK-laptop> Urgh.
[21:16] <JontheEchidna> smarter: it's giving the applet focus after configuring
[21:16] <JontheEchidna> that causes the crash
[21:17] <smarter> didn't happen here
[21:19] <Tm_T> BAH!
[21:19] <Tm_T> /usr/include/qt4/Qt3Support/q3listview.h:131: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘...’ before ‘&’ token
[21:19] <Tm_T> /usr/include/qt4/Qt3Support/q3listview.h:132: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of ‘QColorGroup’ with no type
[21:21] <Riddell> missing a #include usually
[21:22]  * smarter would say #include <QColorGroup> :}
[21:22] <smarter> or rather: don't use no deprecated functions! :P
[21:22] <Tm_T> smarter: ye, I would say so too
[21:23] <Tm_T> kdenetwork, trunk
[21:23] <Tm_T> have to look at it tomorrow, now I need my sleep
[21:23] <Tm_T> good night kids and thanks (:)
[21:23] <smarter> 'night Tm_T
[21:29] <chris062689> hmmm
[21:29] <chris062689> Does KDevelop in the 8.10 repos, is that made for KDE 4 / QT 4 development?
[21:30] <chris062689> Like, if I make something with the designer, will that be in QT 4?
[21:30] <chris062689> Or does KDevelop still use KDE 3  /  QT 3 at this time+
[21:31] <smarter> I think it can be used for both
[21:31] <smarter> but it's the kde3 version of kdevelop of course
[21:32] <smarter> for designer, well it depends on which version of designer is installed
[21:33] <Riddell> #kubuntu for user questions
[21:33] <NCommander> hey Riddell
[21:34]  * smarter is off to bed
[21:34] <smarter> 'night guys
[21:36] <NCommander> night smarter
[21:43] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: So earlier you were saying if we smack JontheEchidna around enough kde4bindings will build?
[21:44] <ScottK-laptop> BTW JontheEchidna, qt4-x11 test build started.  Given how long it took just to build the source package, I expect I'll know in a week or tw.
[21:44] <ScottK-laptop> tw/two
[21:44] <NCommander> ScottK-laptop, probably
[21:44] <NCommander> ScottK-laptop, anyway, I think I have a breakthrough w.r.t. to python-qt4 (and thus kde4bindings)
[21:44] <ScottK-laptop> Excellent.
[21:57] <jjesse-dell> afternoon from minneapolis airport
[22:03] <chris062689> Is KDevelop in the 8.10 repos made for creating KDE 4 apps, or KDE 3?
[22:04] <ScottK> chris062689: #kubuntu for user questions.
[22:10] <jjesse-dell> Riddell: you kicking everyone off #fosscamp?
[22:49] <ScottK> Riddell: If you have a moment, I'd appreciate it if you'd binary New mlt.  I'm waiting on to to look at updating kdenlive
[22:59] <FireRabbit> hey nixternal, you around?


[00:05] <johnjohn1011> ironhalik: did you install unity next?
[01:12] <MonkeyDust> yay! installed raring, works like a charm
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Awesome! Can't wait to see how many bugs are left.
[01:15] <MonkeyDust> there are some
[01:16] <SonikkuAmerica> That's axiomatic at the beta stage anyway. :P
[01:16] <MonkeyDust> in 'files' (nautilus), i'm unable to display the files as list
[01:16] <MonkeyDust> and the calendar is in a wrong language
[01:16] <SonikkuAmerica> I'm not too sure whether or not GNOME is dumping the 'display files as list' feature or not...
[01:17] <SonikkuAmerica> I think with Unity Next Shuttlebay is planning on one day ditching GTK+
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> for Qt
[01:29] <bjorkintosh> is there something wrong with grub?
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> bjorkintosh, Can you elaborate?
[01:31] <bjorkintosh> hard to. my system is simply not booting.
[01:31] <bjorkintosh> no boot partition found.
[01:31] <bjorkintosh> yet i can see it right here (via the livecd).
[01:31] <bjorkintosh> so i am guessing grub had a brain fart.
[01:32] <bjorkintosh> or am i doing it wrong?
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> bjorkintosh, Generally a boot partition is not needed.
[01:34] <bjorkintosh> so why do i have one?
[01:34] <bjorkintosh> or what can i do to fix it?
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> bjorkintosh, Is this a W8 dualboot
[01:35] <bjorkintosh> nope.
[01:35] <bjorkintosh> just ubuntu by itself.
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> bjorkintosh, You can chroot from the live cd and reload it to the partition
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> Or get super grub to boot in and do it from there.
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> or get the bootrepair app and use it.
[01:37] <bjorkintosh> hmm.
[01:37] <bjorkintosh> but i most certainly will need to use grub, correct?
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> bjorkintosh, Grub is the bootloader.
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> grub 2
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  or  http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/  or the chroot  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> The bootrepair runs a bootinfo script you can just run that and post the url, and I will be glad to look at it.
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> summary rather than script, the app is called bootscript outside the app
[01:43] <bjorkintosh> thanks. i will see what i can do.
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> bjorkintosh, I am assuming here though that you don't have a UEFI setuo.
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> setup*
[01:44] <bjorkintosh> it is a newish machine.
[01:44] <bjorkintosh> and it is from samsung.
[01:44] <bjorkintosh> so it does have uefi.
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> !uefi
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> It is the new MS boot set up and is a gpt partitoning setup, apple uses efi another gpt.
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> I would use the ubuntu forums than there are daily helpers in UEFI stuff it is a bit funky as OEM's have different setups. If you use the forum run that bootinfo summary in the bootrepair app and post its url.
[05:32] <Allard> hello
[05:32] <Allard> I cannot install wine and skype
[05:32] <Allard> it gives me this error:
[05:33] <Allard> http://pastebin.com/MTYdDvNA
[05:34] <valorie> Allard: how did you try to install it?
[05:34] <valorie> also, that pastebin has only the skype error
[05:34] <Allard> software center and terminal
[05:34] <Allard> ok the wine I will post now
[05:34] <valorie> ok, so you tried with packages?
[05:35] <valorie> not a downloaded version from the skype site or whatever
[05:35] <Allard> http://pastebin.com/3QGjMqvQ
[05:35] <valorie> hmmm
[05:35] <Allard> no it is the official version from software center
[05:36] <Allard> I also tried from skype site but also can't install
[05:36] <valorie> ok, I installed skype the other day in raring
[05:36] <valorie> but I'll get out my test machines, and upgrade and see what happens
[05:36] <Allard> I had it today but I had to reinstall ubuntu and now it does not work
[05:36] <valorie> and also wine
[05:36] <Allard> I had both working
[05:36] <Allard> but now they don't
[05:36] <valorie> btw I have kubuntu but it should be the same
[05:36] <Allard> yeah
[05:38] <Allard> any idea?
[05:41] <IdleOne> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[05:41] <IdleOne> That makes me want to try: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:41] <Allard> I did it
[05:42] <Allard> it tells me to do
[05:42] <Allard> apt-get autoremove
[05:42] <Allard> so I did it
[05:42] <Allard> now I am waiting to be finished
[05:42] <valorie> cool
[05:42] <bazhang> Allard, is this for 13.04
[05:42] <Allard> will this let me install it
[05:42] <Allard> yeah
[05:42] <valorie> are you using 32 or 64-bit?
[05:42] <Allard> latest release
[05:42] <Allard> 64bit
[05:43] <valorie> I'll start with that machine then
[05:43] <bazhang> Allard, what does lsb_release -a   in terminal say
[05:44] <Allard> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[05:44] <Allard> Description:	Ubuntu Raring Ringtail (development branch)
[05:44] <Allard> Release:	13.04
[05:44] <Allard> Codename:	raring
[05:44] <bazhang> ok
[05:44] <bazhang> and you got skype from the partner repo Allard ?
[05:44] <Allard> from software center yes
[05:45] <Allard> still no progress after autoremove command
[05:45] <Allard> same error
[05:47] <Allard> am I still being listened?
[05:47] <Allard> or you moved on?
[05:49] <valorie> updating & upgrading
[05:50]  * valorie is here to the bitter end
[05:50] <valorie> I mean the sweet updated end
[05:52] <valorie> oddly enough, skype isn't upgraded
[06:00] <shadeslayer> Allard: needs multi-arch
[06:00] <shadeslayer> you don't have multi-arch enabled for reason
[06:00] <Allard> oh
[06:00] <Allard> so what do I do
[06:00] <shadeslayer> lemme find the command
[06:01] <shadeslayer> Allard:  dpkg --add-architecture i386
[06:01] <shadeslayer> then apt-get update
[06:01] <shadeslayer> then try again
[06:02] <Allard> same mistake
[06:02] <shadeslayer> hm?
[06:04] <shadeslayer> Allard: what does apt-cache policy skype-bin   say?
[06:04] <Allard> skype-bin:i386:
[06:04] <Allard>   Installed: (none)
[06:04] <Allard>   Candidate: <IP_ADDRESS>.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:04] <Allard>   Version table:
[06:04] <Allard>      <IP_ADDRESS>.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> 0
[06:04] <Allard>         500 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring/partner i386 Packages
[06:05] <shadeslayer> what does sudo apt-get install skype skype-bin:i386 say?
[06:22] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:24] <valorie> skype starts up for me with no problem, Allard
[06:26] <Allard> http://pastebin.com/0qmCy7Z6
[06:26] <Allard> shadeslayer that is the output
[06:27] <Allard> valorie nice for you but here it is different
[06:28] <valorie> ok, but it's info
[06:28] <valorie> my 13.04 is up to date
[06:28] <Allard> mine also
[06:29] <shadeslayer> ehhh
[08:47] <LinuxHorst> morning girls... has anyone of you that glitch in vlc where unity glitches through fullscreen vlc by moving the mouse and then the fullscreen control element of vlc disappears and never comes back?
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> LinuxHorst  just tried, no issue here
[08:52] <LinuxHorst> MonkeyDust, what gpu do you have? maybe its a gpu/drivers issue
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> LinuxHorst  no idea, i have a intel laptop
[08:53] <MonkeyDust> LinuxHorst  make that aspire, with intel
[08:53] <LinuxHorst> i have an intel cpu laptop too but also a nvidia gpu
[10:39] <Tex_Nick> i have parts arriving today for a new PC build ... is Raring ready to go, or should i wait a couple weeks for final release
[10:44] <Nanix> Can anybody think of a substitute for the jupiter applet (it's deprecated and doesn't work on 13.04)
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> Nakkel  and what is it supposed to do?
[11:00] <alankila> Tex_Nick: I guess I recommend giving it a try, but there's always a chance it won't work for some particular computer.
[11:00] <alankila> I've used it on couple of systems for a few months now without any notable difficulty.
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> Tex_Nick  no issues so far with raring
[11:02] <Tex_Nick> alankila & MonkeyDust  : ok guys thanks for the input ... this build will ba an AMD FM2 Socket with A10 processor ... hopefully the graphics will work
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> Tex_Nick  first try the live cd or usb to get an idea
[11:04] <Tex_Nick> MonkeyDust:  yes sir that's a great thought :)
[11:08] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[11:45] <johnjohn1011> Tex_Nick: thinking of same type of system. please report your experience
[11:52] <Tex_Nick> johnjohn1011:  the past 9 PC's i've built have used the AMD FM1 & FM2 Socket with APU's instead of CPU's & A75 - A85 MoBo Chipsets ... i've had real good performance with these builds on 12.04 & 12.10
[11:54] <Tex_Nick> in fact, they've been the most stable linux box's i've ever built
[11:55] <Tex_Nick> i've used ASUS, ECS & Gigabit MOBo's
[11:56] <Tex_Nick> this new build will be an ASRock MoBo ... it will be my first ASRock MoBo ... hope it performs well & last's several years
[11:57] <Tex_Nick> GigaByte ^
[12:17] <vrubium> hello all! Is it just me or empathy irc does not work under 13.04?
[12:18] <Walther> I didn't even know empathy had IRC :D
[12:19] <vrubium> I've installed the accounts plugin to enable it. but it keeps failing in the login..
[12:24] <enrylinux> speack italian
[12:24] <DJones> !it | enrylinux
[12:25] <Tex_Nick> !it | enrylinux
[12:29] <enrylinux> in ubuntu 13.04 i can not set desktop background
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> enrylinux  how so?
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> enrylinux  what happens when you try?
[12:31] <enrylinux> nothing
[12:32] <enrylinux> black screen
[12:33] <enrylinux> with unity
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> enrylinux  so when you right click on the desktop, the screen turns black?
[12:36] <enrylinux> not part of the background and appearance in the backgrounds sees me but I can not change it
[12:37] <enrylinux> sorry my english
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> yes, i did not quite get that
[12:39] <snuggl> hehe
[12:39] <Axz> Guys how to install Nvidia drivers 314*
[12:39] <snuggl> the new ubuntu has the same bugs that made me leave linux 10 years ago
[12:39] <snuggl> laptops and external montitors
[12:39] <snuggl> i would thought someone had solved this by now =D
[12:40] <Tex_Nick> enrylinux:  have a look at this ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/251710/how-to-change-my-background
[12:40] <DJones> Is there a way of adding twitter to online accounts so that it appears in Friends, Online accounts doesn't give me an option to add a twitter account
[12:41] <snuggl> if i choose to only show the lanucher/dock at the external monitor, the internal monitor is off'ed
[12:41] <snuggl> if i choose both the screen turns on again
[12:41] <snuggl> regardless of if the checkbox is on ON or OFF
[12:43] <Tex_Nick> enrylinux:  you might also look at the "unity Tweak Tool " ... http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/unity-tweak-tool-available-in-ubuntu.html
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> snuggl  a simple search shows several dual monitor issues
[12:52] <enrylinux> unity tweak tool does not allow you to change the desktop wallpaper
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:56] <Tex_Nick> enrylinux:  sorry, it allows you to change the "icon's background" ... i misread that ... the problem you are having appears to be a 13.04 bug though
[12:58] <enrylinux> for nothing
[13:01] <Tex_Nick> enrylinux:  there are several posts on the www about that problem ... looks like a "bug report: has been filed ... hopefully it will be fixed soon
[13:14] <Tex_Nick> enrylinux:  in 12.10 the wallpapers are stored in "/usr/share/backgrounds" you might try replacing the existing wallpaper with the new wallpaper having the same name as the existing name
[13:20] <enrylinux> I do not understand
[13:22] <enrylinux> Now the backgrounds are as you say in usr / share / backgrounds
[13:28] <snuggl> MonkeyDust: but i already found them =P
[14:23] <ssn> since there seems to be no alternate install cd for ubuntu 13.04, how do i install it on a software raid?
[14:24] <genii-around> modprobe raid1     or raid456
[14:24] <ssn> ?
[17:16] <k1l_> so i uninstalled gwibber and use friends-app now. but when starting friends-app it says it should configure a online account. but there is no twitter account in online accounts.
[17:16] <k1l_> but when i click on back it works with the old gwibber account :/
[17:32] <lordievader> Good evening
[17:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Guten Knaben.
[17:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Except here in the eastern USA it's afternoon.
[17:35] <SonikkuAmerica> XD
[18:08] <quem> anyone else that's tried the fglrx legacy ppa?
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> quem  ppa's are not supported, better contact the maintainer
[18:20] <quem> MonkeyDust: it works excellently for me.. just curious about others' experiences. :)
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> quem  if you did not find any reviews or blogs about it, why not be the first and become a reference?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> in the ubuntuone dashboard, if i click 'explore', it opens media player -- is that a 13.04 issue or a question for the ubuntuone people?
[19:58] <maedox> Any ideas how to fix the super+# shortcuts on the unity launcher? They don't match what it states on the icons. :-/
[21:59] <hggdh> why do I get a "Unity WebApps plugin is required to display some elements of this page" on Chromium-browser? And I am using KDE...
[21:59] <SonikkuAmerica> In the middle of the distro upgrade to 13.04 from 12.10 I get a message "Replace /etc/gnome/defaults.list?" with the changelist on http://paste.ubuntu.com/5702886/. How can I tell which is the old defaults.list and which is the new one?
[22:04] <jtaylor> + is new
[22:05] <SonikkuAmerica> And I assume - is old?
[22:05] <jtaylor> yes
[22:06] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[22:06] <SonikkuAmerica> I couldn't begin to tell which I should accept though.
[22:07] <SonikkuAmerica> But I assume I can change it in Default Apps later, right/
[22:07] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[22:08] <jtaylor> yes
[22:08] <jtaylor> you normally should not edit the system one
[22:09] <SonikkuAmerica> k
[22:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Proceeding to target... stand by.
[22:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Bye-bye custom config... for now.
[22:10] <jtaylor> you can always make a backup
[22:10] <jtaylor> also normally your custom config resides in the home folder and overwrites the system one
[22:11] <jtaylor> those parts will stay
[22:11] <SonikkuAmerica> True...
[22:19] <yofel> hggdh: chromium-browser recommended unity-chromium-extension for a while which should cause that. Remove it and it should stop
[22:22] <hggdh> yofel: thanks. Removed, still there, I will try a logoff/logon
[22:24] <hggdh> yofel: still stubbornly there after removing everything unity-\*, and logoff/logon. Now for a reboot
[22:25] <yofel> hm
[22:28] <zerwas> Hm, seahorse still broken in 13.04
[22:42] <hggdh_> yofel: the extension code was still in the crhomium profile(s). Deleting the specific subdirectory did the trick.
[23:13] <IdleOne> kubuntu 12.10 just offered to upgrade to 13.04
[23:13] <IdleOne> isn't it a little early?
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> IdleOne, If you have software sources set to all upgrades you will get that I think.
[23:15] <IdleOne> wilee-nilee: right but normally that happens on release day
[23:15] <IdleOne> not before
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> True
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> I would check your sources lists maybe
[23:15] <IdleOne> I auth'ed it. here goes
[23:16] <IdleOne> if it doesn't explode I'll let you know, if it does explode. I won't be here to let you know. Remember me!
[23:16] <IdleOne> :)
[23:16] <SonikkuAmerica> IdleOne: Last I checked it shouldn't blow up in your face...
[23:17] <IdleOne> my point is that this upgrade to 13.04 is premature. I did not ask for it and I am wondering why it was offered.
[23:18] <IdleOne> why it was offered before release*
[23:18] <genii-around> Yes, that's odd.
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> IdleOne, just hum this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn01nSG4cvU
[23:24] <valorie> IdleOne: I just updated/dist-upgraded on this machine, with no such offer
[23:24] <valorie> you are just livin' in the future!
[23:25] <IdleOne> valorie: I was just sitting here and all of a sudden it popped up.
[23:25] <valorie> weird
[23:25] <IdleOne> yeah
[23:25] <valorie> perhaps it knew you were in this channel
[23:25] <valorie> creepy!
[23:25] <IdleOne> haha, I've been here for years
[23:26] <valorie> my two boxes that I've upgraded are doing great, btw
[23:26] <valorie> I looooove the new bootsplash
[23:26] <IdleOne> I was doing great on 12.10. I had decided to sit this dev cycle out but it seems "Every time I try to get out they PULL me back in"
[23:27] <valorie> I sat out last cycle, and got lonely
[23:28] <valorie> so I'm back
[23:32] <jbicha> IdleOne: that bug was mentioned on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-February/036452.html
[23:32] <genii-around> !schedule
[23:35] <genii-around> The meta release file looks different