[09:17] <chiche> what printers?
[09:17] <munzir_> Hi, I manually changed /etc/hosts and now sudo anything gives me "sudo: unable to lookup ossc via gethostbyname()" how should this be fixed?
[09:17] <Beawolfe> cd to desktop then sudo dpkg -i filename
[09:17] <chiche> munzir_, the wrong config
[09:18] <munzir_> chiche: yes I know but how can I fix it?
[09:18] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, make sure it's Desktop - case matters inthe command line
[09:18] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Beawolfe about cli
[09:18] <pax> munzir_: do the same to /etc/hostname
[09:19] <chiche> munzir_, hehehe
[09:19] <pax> munzir_: change the hostname there too.
[09:19] <chiche> munzir_, I forgot it
[09:19] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, better yet, use 'cd ~/Desktop'
[09:19] <munzir_> pax: yes you are right I should do this but  the problem now is I can't use sudo to change that file
[09:20] <bliss1_> Madpilot: its a linux files it has a star shaped icon
[09:20] <chiche> lol
[09:20] <mlalkaka> if my bootloader gets cleared from the master boot record, how can i reinstall it? i'm using grub
[09:20] <BTDog> munzir_, can you become superuser with su?
[09:20] <pax> munzir_: exit that shell and reopen it.
[09:20] <frootstripe> i forgot i was on ubuntu and shouldn't set root - i.e. i set root - is this a prob?
[09:21] <GueVaRa> hello~~
[09:21] <GueVaRa> first time user need some help..
[09:21] <chiche> hi
[09:21] <Madpilot> !tell frootstripe about root
[09:21] <BTDog> !tell BTDog about root
[09:21] <Madpilot> frootstripe, there's some unsetting-root info in the URL the bot just sent you
[09:22] <GueVaRa> !tell frootstripe about root
[09:22] <chiche> is there a dpkg-like bot in the room?
[09:22] <munzir_> BTDog: how? I need to use sudo su too , no?
[09:22] <bliss1_> Madpilot : i must run command  ./iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[09:22] <munzir_> pax: I rebooted my pc to no avail
[09:22] <Madpilot> munzir_, rescue console is your friend, it sounds like...
[09:22] <chiche> !tell me about dpkg
[09:22] <pax> munzir_: can you show me your hosts in a pastebin?
[09:23] <Madpilot> bliss1_, what're you trying to install?
[09:23] <GueVaRa> just install 5.10....after reboot....come to command prompt....Gnome UI didnt come up...what should i do??
[09:23] <Beawolfe> Madpilot.....that didnt work either
[09:23] <eggzeck> munzir_, you do not do sudo su
[09:23] <BTDog> so by default you can't do su, but you can do sudo su...
[09:23] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: What is your system ram?
[09:23] <BTDog> why is sudo su a more secure way?
[09:23] <GueVaRa> 256mb..
[09:24] <Madpilot> BTDog, because sudo is always logged - su isn't, I understand
[09:24] <IceTox> Is there any way to check which type of RAM I have in my computer by command in terminal?
[09:24] <pax> munzir_: it's not big deal, you can always change it by using the install or live CD, let's see your hosts file first.
[09:24] <BTDog> ahh
[09:24] <GueVaRa> PwcrLinux: 256mb
[09:24] <AnAnt> is there something like mountloop in Ubuntu ?

[09:24] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, do "cd ~/Desktop", then "ls -la" and tell me if your .deb files are listed in the "ls -la" results
[09:25] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: Hmm, try xstart
[09:25] <intelikey> AnAnt mount -o loop     ?
[09:25] <AnAnt> intelikey: that should be done by superuser
[09:25] <linav> where can i get decoders for totem player
[09:25] <GueVaRa> PwcrLinux: old laptop....only has 800mb for core installtion....pb??
[09:25] <munzir_> pax: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12829
[09:25] <AnAnt> intelikey: mountloop was done by normal users
[09:25] <bliss1_> Madpilot: its here http://pastebin.ca/50886
[09:25] <Madpilot> !tell linav about codecs
[09:26] <intelikey> pmount then
[09:26] <munzir_> pax: i didn't typed those ip6 lines
[09:26] <Beawolfe> This really is getting frustrating...it says there is no default action for that location
[09:26] <linav> madpilot: where can i get codecs
[09:26] <AnAnt> intelikey: hmm, thx
[09:26] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: Oh! you don't have enuff the HD space, the ubuntu need to install about 1.5 GB.. you can get new HD and install them..
[09:26] <munzir_> pax: i tried livecd but it's a bit complicated with my lvm system
[09:27] <intelikey> AnAnt you know that mount could be aliased in /etc/sudoers   right ?
[09:27] <pax> munzir_: delete that second line
[09:27] <joachim_> okey, so i have apt-get'ed 'csh' and i'm wondering, where the hell didi that go? so what do i do about #!/bin/csh since that doesn't exist?
[09:27] <Madpilot> linav, the bot will have sent you a pm
[09:28] <luke_> anyone know where I can find a reasonably big wordlist?
[09:28] <AnAnt> intelikey: yeah, but then any user can mount anything (ie. not just loop files)
[09:28] <intelikey> luke on your system.
[09:28] <Madpilot> bliss1_, try asking in that ubuntuforums thread if the instructions aren't clear
[09:28] <GueVaRa> PwcrLinux: thx....need to resize partitions again...lol
[09:29] <linav> madpilot: i didnt got any
[09:29] <Madpilot> !+codecs
[09:29] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[09:29] <luke_> intelikey, oh really? im pretty noob, is it a dictionary file or something?
[09:29] <Madpilot> linav, ^^^
[09:29] <intelikey> AnAnt no you can specify what the full command is.   i.e.   all : nopasswd:mount -o loop *.iso *
[09:29] <joachim_> anyone?
[09:29] <Madpilot> linav, ignore that one, actually. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats instead
[09:30] <intelikey> luke_ yes  passwd checks against it.
[09:30] <AnAnt> ic
[09:30] <luke_> intelikey, what's it called please?
[09:30] <bliss1_> Madpilot i asking how to make iasl to .\iasl ?
[09:31] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: : I recommend partitation up to 10 GB or more whenever you want it's more stable..
[09:31] <Madpilot> bliss1_, looks like it - but go thru the ubuntuforums thread again
[09:31] <pig> hi
[09:32] <Das|Sleeping> I have a thumbnail, but it says I'm not the owner? Is there a way to reformat it so I'm set as the owner?
[09:32] <Das|Sleeping> *the owner.
[09:32] <luke_> when I use 'find' how can I make errors >/dev/null?
[09:32] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, edit the permissions as root
[09:32] <intelikey>  2>/dev/null
[09:32] <pig> anyone know italian irc for ubuntu?
[09:32] <luke_> ty
[09:32] <Beawolfe> Madpilot....none of those commands work...keeps telling me the is no default action associated with that location
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> !it
[09:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:33] <intelikey> luke_ give me a sec on the name....
[09:33] <bliss1_> Mudpilot: ok how do i  file a into file .\a ?
[09:33] <Das|Sleeping> ailean, sudo chmod what?
[09:33] <luke_> intelikey, sure mate
[09:33] <Das|Sleeping> !chmod
[09:33] <ubotu> from memory, chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[09:33] <jond3rd> !ph
[09:33] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[09:33] <Madpilot> bliss1_, I don't know - but whoever wrote that forum thread probably does
[09:33] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, there's your answer :)
[09:33] <Das|Sleeping> !man chmod
[09:33] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Das|Sleeping
[09:33] <ailean> oh
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: In your terminal.
[09:34] <Das|Sleeping> Yes, but what is 777?
[09:34] <BTDog> find . >& /dev/null
[09:34] <theshibboleth> how do I start up the cups server--I shut it down after I made some changes to the config file
[09:34] <Das|Sleeping> Just chmod 777
[09:34] <BTDog> right?
[09:34] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, I usually open nautilus temporarily as root :D
[09:34] <ailean> bad linux practise i suppose . . .
[09:34] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, you downloaded these .deb to you Desktop, correct?
[09:34] <Das|Sleeping> ailean, How do you do that?
[09:34] <ailean> sudo nautilus
[09:34] <ailean> but don't use it like that longer than you have to
[09:35] <IceTox> Madpilot, do you know of any way I can find out which kind of SDRam my ubuntu is running at? (without looking inside the cabinet)
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> ailean: Yeah, generally a bad idea.
[09:35] <Beawolfe> yes that is correct
[09:35] <ailean> I know, but I'm very new. tonyyarusso
[09:35] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, What's chmod 777?
[09:35] <Madpilot> IceTox, no. try "sudo lshw", though?
[09:35] <ailean> why is it so bad though tonyyarusso?
[09:35] <intelikey> luke_   apt-get search wordlist
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Set permissions for read, write, and execute for everybody.
[09:35] <PwcrLinux> IceTox: you can look up at www.18004memory.com and enter your system info they will find which SDRAM models..
[09:36] <ailean> i'm only saying that because I've been told it's bad
[09:36] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, you opened a terminal (applications->accessories->terminal) the type "cd ~/Desktop" (without the quotes) and "ls -la"
[09:36] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, Yes, but what's the full command? sudo [what's the device name]  777 ?
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> ailean: Because you end up with files owned by root all over the place.
[09:36] <intelikey> Das|Sleeping four sevens ?
[09:36] <ailean> tonyyarusso, but if i only do it to set permissions it's okay?
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: sudo chmod 777 /path/to/the/file/you/need/to/fix
[09:36] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, I mean sudo chmod [device]  777 ?
[09:36] <luke_> intelikey, awesome, thats the one. thanks again
[09:36] <Das|Sleeping> I see
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> ailean: Maybe.  That's still tricky.
[09:37] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, What's the path to a removable device?
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> ailean: In short, you can do it, but if something gets screwy, don't be surprised.
[09:37] <ailean> k :D
[09:37] <theshibboleth> how do I start cups server?
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> ailean: A recursive chown on your home directory will usually fix it though.
[09:37] <ailean> tonyyarusso, i'll try to learn the commands then
[09:37] <Beawolfe> Madpilot, That is what comes up .....dale@ubuntu:~$ cd ~/desktop ls - la
[09:37] <Beawolfe> bash: cd: /home/dale/desktop: No such file or directory
[09:37] <Beawolfe> dale@ubuntu:~$
[09:37] <freeride> hy everyone
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: It would need to be mounted.
[09:37] <freeride> i need help
[09:37] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, It is
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: /media/something usually.
[09:38] <BTDog> u use ruby?
[09:38] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, "ls -la" - exactly, no extra spaces or anything, except removing the quotes
[09:38] <freeride> i have an ac97 sound onboard and it does'n work
[09:38] <freeride> i have ubuntu & win xp instaled
[09:38] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, mine is at /media/usbdisk
[09:38] <freeride> in win xp it works but in ubuntu doesn't
[09:39] <freeride> can someone help me pls?
[09:39] <luke_> intelikey, sorry to be a pain, but after installing it how do I access it?
[09:39] <Beawolfe> Madpilot...keeps comming up with the same thing
[09:40] <Das|Sleeping> sudo chmod 777 /media/usbdisk
[09:40] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, that does nothing
[09:41] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, what exact error?
[09:41] <intelikey> ok guys.   i have the official report now.    it can be done over dialup in two days.     i installed hoary server-install  then set the repos  did dist-upgrade streight into dapper.    yes it borked a few things.   but after making a initramfs.img  and  configuring things  all seems to be working well.   only exception is X still not set to let users start it.   that i'll fix in a bit.
[09:41] <Das|Sleeping> It doesn't produce an error, but nothing happens
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Try this instead: 'sudo chmod -R 777 /media/usbdisk/*'
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: In Linux, when nothing happens, that's a good thing.
[09:41] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, u sure it doesn't just seem that nothing happens?
[09:41] <IceTox> thanks PwcrLinux, but that website didn't support my Operating system :-) And Madpilot, lshw did work, but it only showed me how much memory, not which type it was :-)
[09:41] <freeride> can somenone help me winth my ac97 audio card  pls
[09:41] <doms> why
[09:41] <doms> yeas
[09:41] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, that command doesn't produce an output when it's done correctly
[09:42] <Das|Sleeping> Yes, but when I right click and find properties nothing has changed
[09:42] <doms> you can get a butter then butter you computer
[09:42] <Beawolfe> Madpilot "There is No default action associated with that location"
[09:42] <intelikey> luke_   dpkg -L <package>   for a list of the files it installed....  and  "man man "   manual pages are your friend.
[09:42] <PwcrLinux> IceTox: ur welcome :)
[09:42] <freeride> it doesn't work on ubuntu but on winxp does
[09:42] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, for the ls command or the cd one?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Try my second one there.
[09:43] <Beawolfe> for all of them!!!
[09:43] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, sudo chmod -R 777 /media/usbdisk/* does nothing
[09:43] <ailean> sorry freeride we do see your messages, but I'm not able to help on that one
[09:43] <Das|Sleeping> No changes
[09:43] <bjourne> Im trying to upgrade to dapper, but apt-get always complain about "somepackage: Depends in advance: x-commom (>= 1.0)" but there is no x-common package availible
[09:43] <bjourne> what to do?
[09:43] <ailean> freeride, ask again in half an hour and maybe someone who can help will be on
[09:43] <steel> can i make the backwards and forwards buttons (for browsing) on my mouse work?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Show me the output of 'ls -l /media/usbdisk/fileinquestion'
[09:43] <Madpilot> !tell steel about mouse
[09:43] <freeride> thx ailean i'l try later
[09:43] <ailean> freeride, np
[09:44] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, I'm not just trying to edit one file, but the whole device
[09:44] <steel> heh your command didnt work sadly
[09:44] <steel> oh
[09:44] <pvd2006> command to delete all files and subdirectories starting from a certain directory?
[09:44] <steel> it did
[09:44] <AnAnt> should Ubuntu be installed on a free partition ? what if I do have another distro installed & I want to install Ubuntu on it ?
[09:44] <doms> just get a butter then but your PC
[09:45] <AnAnt> I cannot remove some directories (like /home & /opt)
[09:45] <ailean> AnAnt, it should have its own partition yes, otherwise it will overwrite the other distro
[09:45] <doms> rm -rf
[09:45] <doms> sudo -s
[09:45] <doms> type pwassword
[09:45] <doms> then
[09:45] <doms> rm -rf
[09:45] <doms> you can erase
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Oh.
[09:45] <Das|Sleeping> bash: oh: command not found
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: You should mount it differently then.  (Although it's odd it didn't automatically.)
[09:45] <Das|Sleeping> :r
[09:45] <pvd2006> rm -rf will that work for removing sub dirs?
[09:46] <luke_> when is the new ubuntu coming out? will i be able to just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get it?
[09:46] <AnAnt> ailean: do u mean by overwrite that it will delete everything on that partition  OR that it will overwrite using files that it will install ?
[09:46] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, How should I mount it?
[09:46] <Madpilot> pvd2006, yes
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: I'm pondering.
[09:46] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, Not to mention that when I put the device in it automatically mounts
[09:46] <ailean> AnAnt, depends what's there beforehand. a previous version of Ubuntu, it will upgrade. another distro, you'll have to delete it before starting
[09:46] <Das|Sleeping> Ok
[09:47] <doms> what do you like to mount
[09:47] <AnAnt> ic
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Actually, it's four in the morning here, so I'm a little bit less than coherent, so if you don't mind I'm going to recommend reading 'man mount' for instructions on that rather than coming up with something that's wrong.  How's that sound?
[09:48] <PwcrLinux> Das|Sleeping: on desktop right click on your USB icon and unmount it and then do in the terminal box to mount it for chmod settings..
[09:48] <ailean> AnAnt, diff distros are only very loosely related. they all work in their own ways, so they can't be mixed. you either run one or the other, but that doesn't mean to say you can't have 20 diff distros on the one machine
[09:48] <doms> halow just type ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:48] <Beawolfe> Madpilot...I finally got a list up in the teminal and it shows all of the .deb files I am trying to install
[09:48] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, Ok
[09:48] <doms> then rm -rf
[09:48] <Das|Sleeping> PwcrLinux, It wont let me unmount, It can't eject
[09:48] <AnAnt> ailean: well, the problem is that I don't want to remove /home & /opt
[09:49] <PwcrLinux> Das|Sleeping: Hmm oh well..
[09:49] <ailean> AnAnt, that's the reason that a lot of people create a /home partition to allow them to have the same files available right across diff distros
[09:49] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, good - now "sudo dpkg -i debname.deb" - obviously put one of the actual filenames in there
[09:49] <AnAnt> ailean: I dont care about the rest
[09:49] <AnAnt> ic
[09:49] <Das|Sleeping> !man mount
[09:49] <ubotu> Das|Sleeping: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:49] <Madpilot> Das|Sleeping, the bot doesn't have man pages - terminal for that
[09:50] <CompuChip> Hmmz, I'm trying to install courier-imap but it keeps giving Authentication FAILED without useful info :(
[09:50] <luke_> I just downloaded a program and compiled it using the source (woot go me) anyway, where do I put the folder now. is there anything else I need to do to install it completely?
[09:51] <Das|Sleeping> Madpilot, heh thanks
[09:52] <bjourne> luke_: make install
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Madpilot it says it "dale@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ ls
[09:52] <Beawolfe> captive-static-1.1.7.tar.gz  par2_0.4-2build1_i386.deb
[09:52] <Beawolfe> dvdrtools_0.2.1-1_i386.deb   rar_3.30-2_i386.deb
[09:52] <Beawolfe> gdebi_0.1.5_all.deb          unrar-free_0.0.1-2_i386.deb
[09:52] <Beawolfe> dale@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i /home/dale/Desktop/dvdrtools_0.2.1-1_i386.de b
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Password:
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Sorry, try again.
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Password:
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Selecting previously deselected package dvdrtools.
[09:52] <Beawolfe> (Reading database ... 61397 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Unpacking dvdrtools (from .../dvdrtools_0.2.1-1_i386.deb) ...
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Setting up dvdrtools (0.2.1-1) ...
[09:52] <Beawolfe> "
[09:52] <CompuChip> how much are you going to paste?
[09:52] <ailean> Beawolfe, in pastebin
[09:53] <luke_> bjourne: yeah i did all that. is there anything else I should do with it?
[09:53] <Madpilot> looks like he figured out how to get a .deb installed, anyway... :P
[09:54] <bjourne> luke_: if make install succeds, then you have installed the program. congratulations
[09:54] <luke_> bjourne, can I remove the folder then?
[09:55] <bob_4_a_day> luke_ dont.
[09:55] <luke_> bob_4_a_day, how come?
[09:55] <bjourne> luke_: yes
[09:55] <bob_4_a_day> luke_ the way you remove things like that is   make uninstall in that folder.
[09:56] <luke_> ah ic, ill just stick it in an arhive somewhere then. thanks
[09:56] <bob_4_a_day> luke_   do a  make clean   then  compress the folder and save it.  it's your removal tool.
[09:56] <Nameeater_> I some how installed the kernel-restricted package and it has messed up my hand installed nvidia driver, I cant remove the package with apt as it wants to uninstall the kernel, how can I get rid of the ubuntu released driver so I can make my hand install one work, X complains of a mismatch with the kernel driver being the older ubuntu one, and the X driver being the newer one
[09:56] <invite> hi
[09:56] <hyphenated> bob_4_a_day: or use checkinstall
[09:56] <invite> how can i install amsn in ubuntu?
[09:57] <luke_> bob_4_a_day, so do I execute the "rm -f ..."  I learned new tricks ;-)
[09:59] <CompuChip> I just reinstalled courier-imap clean and "courierauthtest mylogin mypassword" fails
[09:59] <bob_4_a_day> hyphenated that special dir wont have all the files tho.
[09:59] <cerberus> does anyone know how to add modem lights to a gnome panel? It doesn't show up when I right click and select 'Add to Panel...'
[09:59] <hyphenated> bob_4_a_day: if it doesn't, the ./configure program is broken
[09:59] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: Yea, hopefully it's stable
[10:00] <CompuChip> and when I use the /etc/courier/userdb file and insert |imappw=testie then also "courierauthtest mylogin testie" fails
[10:00] <ailean> is it possible to use a modem with ubuntu? Surely the number of updates makes that impossible
[10:00] <CompuChip> anyone has an idea what I'm doing wrong?
[10:00] <cerberus> of course you can use a modem, that's how I'm connected at the moment
[10:01] <GueVaRa> PwcrLinux: should i set 1.5GB for my "/" directory??? keep getting not enf space for installation??! :?
[10:01] <ailean> cerberus, but how do you update
[10:01] <Nameeater_> how can I see what files a package installed?
[10:01] <cerberus> either wait untill the next release comes out on CD, or very be very selective in the packages I choose to update. Just because you can update doesn't mean you have to.
[10:02] <ailean> suppose :)
[10:02] <CompuChip> Hi
[10:02] <bob_4_a_day> GueVaRa system default install ?   2g
[10:02] <CompuChip> Can you hear me now? :)
[10:02] <cerberus> not to say I wouldn't update more often if I could
[10:02] <River> Hi .. can anyone point me in the right direction to find out how to open / install the debian skype ?
[10:03] <GueVaRa> bob_4_a_day: thx :) sry for stupid Q....1st timer..
[10:03] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell River about skype
[10:03] <ailean> River, add deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free to your repos
[10:03] <ailean> then install using synaptic
[10:04] <hyphenated> ailean: have they fixed the dependencies problem?
[10:05] <ailean> hyphenated, well it's working on my system, but I'm using dapper
[10:05] <bob_4_a_day> GueVaRa not a problem...  the default install is about 1.8 g  but you have to have a little slack  so  2g is about minimum   also you may want to allow a little more if possable for testing new apps.   the repos have about 18k packages now.
[10:05] <steel> Madpilot, could you !tell me about the mouse again?
[10:05] <hintswen> can someone tell me the default root username/password for 5.1?
[10:05] <luke_> anyone know how I can make XMMS the default .MP3 player in Gnome (Breezy)?
[10:05] <ailean> hyphenated, I installed it only yesterday
[10:05] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: try 5 GB..
[10:05] <Madpilot> steel, anyone can talk to the bot - it's not choosy ;) Just do !mouse or !tell me about mouse
[10:05] <bob_4_a_day> !dstats dapper
[10:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on dapper... 18635 packages, 1766 maintainers, 36579 MB installed size, 11339 MB compressed size.
[10:06] <bjourne> hintswen: there is no default, the password is the same as your user password
[10:06] <luke_> !dstats dapper
[10:06] <steel> oh ok
[10:06] <hyphenated> ailean: ok. it had compatibility issues a while back
[10:06] <steel> !tell me about the mouse
[10:06] <hintswen> and username is root?
[10:06] <CompuChip_> Hi all
[10:06] <steel> !tell me about the mouse buttons
[10:06] <Madpilot> hintswen, are you on the LiveCD?
[10:06] <Madpilot> !tell steel about mouse
[10:06] <bjourne> hintswen: you were supposed to chose a username when you installed
[10:06] <hintswen> installed
[10:06] <steel> oh
[10:06] <steel> no the
[10:06] <hintswen> oh, so my username/password is the root account?
[10:07] <Madpilot> hintswen, then username & pw are whatever you picked during install
[10:07] <bob_4_a_day> is ubotu down ?
[10:07] <ubuntu> sorry
[10:07] <Madpilot> !tell hintswen about sudo
[10:07] <Madpilot> hintswen, pretty much, yes
[10:07] <hintswen> ok and how do i shutdown?
[10:08] <Madpilot> hintswen, System->Log Out
[10:08] <bob_4_a_day> hintswen  sudo init 0
[10:08] <hintswen> thank you
[10:08] <liouba> hello
[10:08] <tapu> i hve installed printer
[10:09] <Sir_X> Hi
[10:09] <tapu> thnkz to ubutu
[10:09] <tapu> well can any one tell me how to run DVD in ubuntu hoary?
[10:09] <hintswen> is there some way i can use the hard drive on my ubuntu from a different PC to store files?(ie. from this windows machine)
[10:09] <GueVaRa> any good place to learn how to install pkg or load programs using commands?
[10:09] <patrick_king> tapu: do you mean dvd videos
[10:10] <ailean> why are you running hoary tapu?
[10:10] <patrick_king> !tell tapu about restricted formats
[10:10] <bob_4_a_day> GueVaRa you're there.
[10:11] <steel> !tell me about mouse
[10:11] <bob_4_a_day> !cli
[10:11] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:12] <patrick_king> has any one been able to enable swat with samba 3
[10:12] <hintswen> also how do i change the screen resolution(for login screen)
[10:13] <patrick_king> !swat
[10:13] <ubotu> well, swat is Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html
[10:13] <Sir_X> Why did my courier-imap work yesterday and now I get Authentication failure all the time?
[10:13] <Sir_X> The log doesn't give any useful info, just LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>]
[10:14] <maz> hi all
[10:14] <Sir_X> hi maz
[10:14] <maz> I have a little problem with fonts...
[10:14] <PwcrLinux> aha, it's IPv6
[10:14] <Sir_X> Well, what do I do about it?
[10:15] <onkarshinde> maz: State your problem
[10:16] <bob_4_a_day> please state the nature of the medical emeregency
[10:16] <Sir_X> PwcrLinux what do I do about it?
[10:16] <falcon3> State the nature of your ubuntu emergency
[10:16] <maz> I'm using dapper and it's the second time I upgrade some package and the fonts become "ugly"
[10:16] <PwcrLinux> Sir_X: Ask someone in here, I'm not sure the failures..
[10:16] <Mystery47> hello ppl...:)
[10:16] <River> ailean: thanks for the link & info
[10:17] <Sir_X> I made the userdb and when I try courierauthtest with either my account login or the password in the userdb I just get Authentication FAILED :S I use breezy btw
[10:17] <Mystery47> Does someone know latest repository to ubuntu....that where i can get newest evolution update...?
[10:17] <Sir_X> BTW before upgrading from hoary I got it working in a ... breeze
[10:17] <onkarshinde> maz: Dapper questions in #ubuntu+1
[10:18] <intelikey> Mystery47 dapper ?
[10:18] <bliss1_> onkarshinde: hi
[10:18] <Mystery47> sorry...i dont know what is dapper?
[10:18] <maz> onkarshine: thnaks
[10:19] <bliss1_> ompaul:cloudy 9'C
[10:19] <Sir_X> Ah well, I guess it's not possible to get a working mail system as easily as I thought on ubuntu
[10:19] <onkarshinde> Mystery47: Repositories are always for an particular release. Can you tell whiche release you are using? 5.10?
[10:19] <intelikey> !dapper
[10:19] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[10:19] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: Hi
[10:19] <Mystery47> 5.10....yes
[10:19] <Sir_X> I guess I'll just install Fedora again
[10:20] <intelikey> onkarshinde you in ub plus one  of just like sending people there ?
[10:20] <ompaul> bliss1_, 11 :-) good morning
[10:20] <PwcrLinux> Gm ompaul
[10:20] <ompaul> morning PwcrLinux
[10:20] <onkarshinde> Mystery47: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin.
[10:21] <bliss1_> ompaul: yep good morning nice to here and not at work
[10:21] <onkarshinde> intelikey: I didn't understand that
[10:21] <intelikey> onkarshinde it's ok.  nm.
[10:21] <Mystery47> and then what?
[10:21] <zyth> I don't believe in this 'ubuntu'
[10:21] <zyth> sounds fictional to me
[10:21] <zyth> ;)
[10:22] <falcon3> LIES! ALL VICIOUS LIES !
[10:22] <zyth> serious question: an installation to my HD will be much faster than the livecd, correct?
[10:22] <intelikey> zyth  it is.  the made up story of some code monkey.
[10:22] <ompaul> zyth, it is correct
[10:22] <onkarshinde> Mystery47: paste it and procide us url. SO that we know if you need to change repositories
[10:22] <falcon3> zyth: you know what sounds fictional? flying chickens that eat oversized koala's
[10:22] <zyth> falcon3, I have one of THOSE in my backyard.
[10:22] <bliss1_> ompaul: got a file called iasl its a star shape how can i make iasl in to ./iasl
[10:22] <zyth> this 'easy to use linux' however... ;)
[10:23] <zyth> bliss1_, ./ just means 'current directory'
[10:23] <falcon3> zyth: any leprechaun albino elephants back there?
[10:23] <zyth> so if you're in the same dir as iasl, it'd be run as ./iasl, assuming it'd chmod'd +x
[10:23] <intelikey> ./  $PWD    `pwd`
[10:23] <zyth> falcon3, no, they dislike the cold canadian winter.
[10:23] <ompaul> bliss1_, is it executable?
[10:24] <falcon3> zyth: they just dislike canadians :p
[10:24] <bliss1_> zyth: ok at the moment its in /home how to tranfer into ./
[10:24] <zyth> falcon3, possibly.
[10:24] <bliss1_> ompual yes
[10:24] <Mystery47> oh.....but how i can put url to you.....and what was that pastebin...? (im sorry for my bad eng...)
[10:25] <zyth> bliss1_, ,/ just means 'whereever you are now' directory-wise, unless you're asking how to move a file to / ?
[10:25] <plouf> bonjour
[10:25] <intelikey> !paste
[10:25] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[10:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Mystery47 about pastebin
[10:25] <zyth> er ./
[10:25] <ompaul> !fr
[10:25] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:26] <patrick_king> has any one been able to enable swat with samba 3
[10:26] <sethk> bliss1_, he meant . not ,
[10:26] <zyth> yeah, I typod.
[10:26] <intelikey> Mystery47  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/    and after you paste your text there  the url will be something like   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/82638
[10:26] <Mystery47> ok....ill check that thing...and i send it there....:)
[10:26] <bliss1_> zyth yep move or copy from /home to ./
[10:26] <intelikey> of course that is a fictitious url ^
[10:27] <bliss1_> zyth: as in ./iasl
[10:27] <sethk> bliss1_, cp ~/whatever .
[10:27] <zyth> bliss1_, you are missing the point.  './' is not a directory.  It is a term used to denote the CURRENT directory.  '/' is a directory, namely, the root of your filesystem...
[10:27] <intelikey> ~ !=  /home
[10:28] <thatGuy_> guys.  how do i get general avi files to play?
[10:28] <thatGuy_> general divx i guess
[10:28] <bliss1_> zyth ok yes i was missing the point
[10:28] <zyth> thatGuy_, mplayer works.
[10:28] <intelikey> ~ = /home/`whoami`/
[10:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell thatGuy_ about divx
[10:28] <thatGuy_> naw, it aint playing 'em
[10:28] <onkarshinde> thatGuy_: You totem-xine
[10:29] <Mystery47> ok..
[10:29] <bliss1_> sethk cp /home/iasl ~/isal ?
[10:29] <bliss1_> isal
[10:30] <sethk> bliss1_, no, ~ is an abbreviation for /home/you
[10:30] <thatGuy_> thx gnomefreak
[10:30] <intelikey> well maybe i should by default  ~ = /home/`whoami`/    you can set your home dir...   i had one in /usr/local/opt/sneeky     so go figure.
[10:30] <zyth> bliss1_, is this 'isal' a program? shell script?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> thatGuy_: yw
[10:30] <sethk> bliss1_, so, cp ~/iasl .   copies the file from /home/iasl to the current directory
[10:30] <bigfoot1> help, i'm not getting any sound from flash anymore (the flash like in google video)
[10:30] <Chousuke> sethk: actually, ~ is an abbreviation of $HOME
[10:30] <bliss1_> zyth: its an excutable
[10:30] <zyth> bigfoot1, tried rebooting?
[10:30] <Chousuke> if your home dir is /var/www/something, then it points to that. :)
[10:31] <bliss1_> sethk; ok i will try
[10:31] <ussjoin> I have somewhat of an odd question, with which I hope you guys can help me....
[10:31] <sethk> Chousuke, true, but you can see why I would omit that detail  :)
[10:31] <bigfoot1> zyth: i just did
[10:31] <ussjoin> I have ubuntu breezy, and mysql5 installed.
[10:31] <zyth> bigfoot1, or something could be hogging the sound device, or flash may have gone nuts.
[10:31] <bigfoot1> zyth: maybe enablig system sounds did it.
[10:31] <Mystery47> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12830
[10:31] <ussjoin> I need to uninstall mysql5, so that I can do a dist-upgrade, and just go ahead and do dapper's mysql version.
[10:31] <ussjoin> How do I do that?
[10:31] <Mystery47> there it is...:)
[10:31] <zyth> bigfoot1, using gnome or kde?
[10:32] <bigfoot1> zyth: gnome
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ussjoin: why do you have to uninstall it the upgrade should upgrade it
[10:32] <zyth> bigfoot1, esd could be hogging it.
[10:32] <ussjoin> gnomefreak: Because breezy didn't install it in the first place.
[10:32] <gnomefreak> would be why its called _upgrade_
[10:32] <intelikey> ussjoin sudo apt-get remove mysql5
[10:32] <ussjoin> gnomefreak: So I didn't think it would magically apt-control it now.
[10:32] <zyth> bigfoot1, so check to see if anything is using /dev/dsp
[10:32] <ussjoin> intelikey: I didn't install it using apt. It wasn't in the repo.
[10:32] <PwcrLinux> bigfoot1: go to your speaker icon and right click to volume control, check on PCM is enabled..
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ussjoin: what do you mean breezy didnt install it?
[10:33] <ussjoin> gnomefreak: mysql5 isn't in breezy. So I had to install using the download of the binaries.
[10:33] <intelikey> ussjoin then go the the dir of the makefile and do a   make uninstall       oh i forgot you rm'd the dir.... right.
[10:33] <bigfoot1> PwcrLinux: zyth rythymbox's plays audio
[10:34] <bigfoot1> i just tried now
[10:34] <ussjoin> intelikey: Also I didn't compile from source, I used the downloadable binaries. :-)
[10:34] <bigfoot1>  so i think this means that nothing is/was using dev/dsp
[10:34] <ussjoin> intelikey: But yes, I rm'd the directory.
[10:34] <intelikey> oh binarry ussjoin use the binarry to remove it.
[10:34] <bigfoot1> PwcrLinux: yes, pcm is selected
[10:34] <zyth> bigfoot1, rythmbox uses esd.. if esd is locking /dev/dsp...
[10:35] <zyth> esd = laaaame.  needs to be shot.  just use ALSA.
[10:35] <ussjoin> intelikey: how?
[10:35] <PwcrLinux> bigfoot1: okay good and try again
[10:35] <intelikey> --help   it   maybe they put the help in it....
[10:35] <bigfoot1> PwcrLinux: when you say "try again" do you mean reboot?
[10:36] <PwcrLinux> bigfoot1: try to play video if the sound working
[10:36] <ussjoin> intelikey: Nope.
[10:36] <ussjoin> intelikey: Nothing there about uninstalling.
[10:36] <zyth> can I install from a livecd?
[10:36] <intelikey> aren't they nice.
[10:37] <ussjoin> intelikey: Mm-hmm.
[10:37] <intelikey> zyth what version ?
[10:37] <zyth> oops
[10:37] <zyth> darnit, I missed the answer to my question
[10:37] <ussjoin> intelikey: Any ideas?
[10:38] <zyth> can whomever posted it please repeat?
[10:38] <intelikey> ussjoin avtually your question fell off the ubuntu topic when you said  'unsupported'
[10:38] <intelikey> zyth what version ?
[10:38] <zyth> intelikey, 5.10 breezy powerpc livecd
[10:38] <ussjoin> intelikey: What?
[10:39] <zyth> that's current I do believe
[10:39] <intelikey> zyth not unless you are a pretty good hand with linux.
[10:39] <sethk> zyth, why would you install with the live cd?  Install with the install cd, and run live with the live cd
[10:39] <zyth> well, I've installed debian with no install media but a single floppy, but I don't feel like chrooting around.  I'll just d/l the install cd.
[10:40] <pvd2006> I am having trouble installing mozplayerxp into firefox I placed the .so files under plugin folder and .xpt under component folders yet it is not showing up under about:plugins. I dont see why its not working...
[10:40] <zyth> sethk, cause I don't want to have to dl another 650mb and burn it.
[10:40] <intelikey> ussjoin you installed unsupported package,  it's a question for the packagers  not  ubuntu... if i had the answer i'd tell you but.
[10:40] <sethk> zyth, download it and burn it
[10:40] <zyth> sethk, yes, I said I'd do that.  I was just hoping I wouldn't need to.
[10:40] <zyth> :P
[10:40] <sethk> zyth, in the long run you'll be much better off
[10:41] <ompaul> zyth, if you do the new (Beta) version it will install but you would be better with the install
[10:41] <ompaul> zyth, just cos there is no going back :-)
[10:41] <intelikey> yeah and you can't do dist-upgrade from hoary to dapper either.  but i just did.
[10:42] <ompaul> intelikey, be happy it worked for you keep testing
[10:42] <intelikey> ompaul it didn't work.  hehhe
[10:42] <gnomefreak> what is mozplayerxp?
[10:42] <intelikey> i had to fix it.
[10:42] <ompaul> intelikey, the supported way to do that is hoary ->  breezy -> dapper
[10:42] <PwcrLinux> lol
[10:43] <intelikey> ompaul not on dialup it aint
[10:43] <pvd2006> gnomefreak, mozplayerxp is  a alternative to mplayer-plugin
[10:43] <pvd2006> I cant get mplayer-plugin to work whatsoever with firefox and mozilla
[10:43] <gnomefreak> oh
[10:43] <pvd2006> gnomefreak, it shows up under about:plugins when I install mplayer, and it shows that all file formats are supported and enabled but when I try to open something firefox and mozilla just crash with a segmentation fault
[10:43] <ompaul> intelikey, get CDs for each version and enjoy, dapper will have more updates than you need if your on dial up
[10:44] <pvd2006> I'
[10:44] <pig> i
[10:44] <bliss1_> seth\zyth ok I have both these files in my pwd when i invoke command bliss1@xstation:~$ sudo ./iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[10:44] <bliss1_>    i am told sudo: ./iasl: command not found
[10:44] <pvd2006> I'm talking to people in #mplayer, #firefox, #mozilla, still havent figured it out.
[10:44] <pvd2006> funny thing is, I had mplayer working beforel
[10:44] <pvd2006> mplayer plugin working that is.
[10:45] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: im thinking they would beable to help more because breezy nor dapper have that in repos
[10:45] <pig> i have a problem with ubuntu boot loader
[10:45] <intelikey> pig which boot loader ?
[10:45] <intelikey> default   gnome ?
[10:46] <pig> i'm italian so my english isn't so perfect so sorry
[10:46] <frootstripe> #physics
[10:46] <gnomefreak> !it
[10:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:46] <doms> italiano
[10:46] <doms> pangit ka
[10:46] <luke_> whenever I attempt to execute firefox 1.5.2 I get this error http://pastebin.com/678447
[10:46] <luke_> does anyone know how Ive screwed up?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> luke_: in terminal?
[10:47] <luke_> yes
[10:47] <gnomefreak> dont owrry about it
[10:47] <gnomefreak> worry*
[10:47] <bliss1_> ompaul: i thought dapper was 1 st June release date
[10:47] <gnomefreak> luke_: it will still start
[10:47] <luke_> but it still doesnt start, even from Gnome
[10:47] <ompaul> bliss1_, and it is
[10:47] <gnomefreak> luke_: did you read the wiki?
[10:47] <pig> the boot stopp in this voice: calculating module depencies
[10:47] <luke_> yes
[10:47] <luke_> i did what it said
[10:48] <ompaul> bliss1_, for that command sudo sh ./foo
[10:48] <gnomefreak> luke_: if you followed it    ff<IP_ADDRESS> will work
[10:48] <sethk> luke_, that's harmless
[10:48] <pig> what is the cause?
[10:48] <bliss1_> ompaul: ok i will try thanks
[10:48] <luke_> sethk, it doesnt run however
[10:49] <gnomefreak> luke_: the errors in terminal you get from starting ff from terminal are from the updater
[10:49] <sethk> luke_, ok, but those messages aren't the reason
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ff <IP_ADDRESS> checks updates on every startup
[10:49] <luke_> ill copy the whole error message guys, one sec
[10:49] <bliss1_> ompaul: ./iasl: ./iasl: cannot execute binary file
[10:50] <ompaul> bliss1_, type >> file iasl <<
[10:51] <luke_> no, luckily
[10:52] <luke_> gnomefreak, sethk, http://pastebin.com/678452
[10:53] <bliss1_> ompaul; bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[10:53] <bliss1_>
[10:53] <sethk> luke_, it's the messages about not finding shared object file that are killing it
[10:53] <gnomefreak> luke_: the other version of ff did you happen to disable pango?
[10:53] <luke_> sethk, can I fix that?
[10:53] <sethk> luke_, looks like you don't have pango installed
[10:53] <sethk> luke_, install what's missing
[10:53] <luke_> gnomefreak, Im not even sure what pango is, i tried to apt-get install pango it but it didnt work
[10:53] <gnomefreak> luke_: there was a work around in ff you didnt happen to use it did you?
[10:53] <luke_> no
[10:54] <sethk> luke_, use synaptic and try search and see if it finds stuff for pango
[10:54] <gnomefreak> luke_: what ff version were you using?
[10:54] <ompaul> bliss1_, and you typed >> file iasl <<
[10:54] <ompaul> bliss1_, without the <><>
[10:54] <luke_> 1.0.8
[10:55] <luke_> sethk, cant find it in synaptic
[10:55] <luke_> sethk, unless you mean libpango
[10:55] <sethk> luke_, libpango it is
[10:56] <sethk> luke_, whenever you see a message about not finding a shared object, it's talking about a library
[10:56] <bliss1_> ompaul: iasl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[10:57] <will_> hi guys
[10:57] <ompaul> bliss1_, that seems like a very very old file
[10:57] <ompaul> bliss1_, where did you get it?
[10:57] <darx> hi guys. I'd like to compile imule.. What are the packages required???
[10:57] <luke_> turns out libpango was already installed. I reinstalled it, but it didnt seem to work
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> can someone recommend a browser that is able to alter is UA string? Opera can change its 'identify as Internet Explorer', but it doesn't work for one site (it refuses to let me login).
[10:57] <will_> how can i cature video from a tv card (tvtime plays beatufully) but i want to expoty to mpeg or divx ,,,, is there a prog that can do this >>
[10:58] <will_> ?
[10:58] <bliss1_> ompaul http://pastebin.ca/50886
[10:58] <ompaul> will_, please read the message from the bot
[10:58] <will_> thankyou
[10:59] <darx> hi guys. I'd like to compile imule.. What are the packages required???
[10:59] <luke_> although I only have version 1.0, it seems to be searching for 1.4.0
[10:59] <darx> any ideas??
[11:00] <ompaul> bliss1_, roll back a bit, what do you actually want to run/build the url in that post is truncated
[11:01] <will_> ompaul , thanks man , my questions was about video capture tho .... it plays fine from my vcr .... im cant output to AVI YET
[11:01] <will_> (sorry caps)
[11:01] <dli> darx, if you don't really know howto :( I suggest you to find a .deb
[11:02] <luke_> oh well nevermind, Firefox 1.0.8 is fine I guess
[11:02] <ompaul> will_, sorry "mythtv" stick that word into wiki.ubuntu.com and do a text search I don't have specific reference the bot has one but I am not sure if it is good I'll send it but I suggest the wiki first
[11:03] <dli> luke_, I suggest firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>, lower versions all crash from time to time
[11:03] <gnomefreak> luke_: sethk when i updated the ff1.5 wiki it was tested with 1.0.7 and <IP_ADDRESS> not 1.0.8 im wondering if they changed something that much from 1.0.7-1.0.8
[11:03] <darx> i can't
[11:03] <will_> lol cheers ompaul
[11:03] <luke_> dli, I agree, but atm Im unable to make the upgrade
[11:04] <darx> have to get my hands dirty once in a while
[11:05] <dli> Luke, as a temporary solution, you can go to mozilla.org and download the general binary version :( I think dapper has 1.5, but not sure about <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:05] <luke_> gnomefreak, the wiki worked great, its just a probelm with the actual execution of firefox
[11:05] <gnomefreak> dli: dapper has <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:05] <sethk> gnomefreak, it's possible, but I think it's more likely an install or configuration issue
[11:05] <gnomefreak> luke_: but if 1.0.8 needs a lib that 1.0.7 didnt use it can cause issues
[11:05] <dli> darx, okay, download the source, usually, there's a howto or readme or install (in Capitals, most likely), read it (them)
[11:06] <luke_> ah ic
[11:06] <gnomefreak> luke_: did you run the divert command?
[11:06] <bliss1_> ompaul; try http://pastebin.ca/50902
[11:06] <luke_> gnomefreak, yes
[11:06] <Bunta> Hey folks.. I'm at school atm, but still havin some problems regardin my combo drive o.o
[11:07] <liquidindian> In what way is su different from sudo?
[11:07] <will_> mythtv is for dbv ... bugger .... im on analog
[11:07] <gnomefreak> liquidindian: yes but sudo can do anything su can do and more
[11:07] <darx> thanks
[11:07] <wy> I'm looking for something like screen, which can let Emacs frontends to be detached from the editing work. And later another emacs can attach to it.
[11:08] <gnomefreak> wy: cant you run emacs in screen?
[11:08] <liquidindian> gnomefreak, Is su similar?  I've only used sudo...
[11:08] <hyphenated> liquidindian: su _always_ prompts for a password, and defaults to running a shell if no command is specified
[11:08] <gnomefreak> liquidindian: my advice is to keep using sudo dont bother with su
[11:09] <wy> gnomefreak:  Yes. But sometimes I want to switch from emacs -nw to emacs with X without quitting the editing session
[11:09] <ompaul> !root
[11:09] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:09] <ompaul> liquidindian, read that page ^^ its useful
[11:09] <dli> gnomefreak, does sudo handle XAUTHORITY?
[11:10] <liquidindian> Cheers.
[11:10] <Trunkz> ompaul, you mind helpin me out with my combo drive problem?
[11:10] <Sir_X> Hmm, I got a bit further with the mail setup but now I ran into another problem
[11:10] <liquidindian> Cheers!
[11:10] <gnomefreak> dli: afaik it does
[11:10] <Sir_X> I let fetchmail deliver mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to root and want postfix+procmail to sort it out
[11:10] <firepol> hi huys, i want to use the latest version of amarok, to do so i see i must use the dapper packages (else there are dependency problems) do you think im safe to upgrade to dapper?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell firepol about easysource
[11:11] <Sir_X> but I get it back because <root@localhost> gets expanded to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and the domain localhost.mydomain.com does not exists
[11:11] <ompaul> Trunkz, define the issue on one line please
[11:11] <Snow> Hello. I'm having trouble getting started.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> firepol: go to that link there is amarok repos
[11:11] <firepol> there isnt
[11:11] <KrisWood> Hi Snow, what kind of trouble are you having?
[11:11] <firepol> ive justr added to sopurces.list the repos, it cant find the Packages.gz
[11:11] <gnomefreak> firepol: what do you mean there isnt?
[11:11] <firepol> i had to add it as "dapper"
[11:11] <gnomefreak> on easysource there is
[11:12] <firepol> http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Installation_HowTo#Distribution_Packages
[11:12] <gnomefreak> firepol: 1st mistake was mixing breezy and dappers repos
[11:12] <ompaul> Trunkz, and it is better to ask the channel, than one person what if I don't know the answer, maybe you end up having to ask the channel, and if you repeat the question you will have people on your back
[11:12] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[11:12] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:12] <Snow> OK. I tried running a Live CD of the old Badger version. It crashed by just giving me a black screen until I selected the safe mode instead of the default.
[11:12] <Trunkz> o.O
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ^^^ there are amarok and kubuntu repos
[11:12] <adu> hi
[11:12] <Trunkz> anyway.. gonna try a different CD
[11:12] <Trunkz> see how that works
[11:13] <gnomefreak> Snow: sounds like a video card issue
[11:13] <Snow> How do I set up Python so I can program in that, creating and running code?
[11:13] <ompaul> Trunkz, define the issue on one line please was my request, where is the answer to that?
[11:13] <Snow> Gnome: A live CD of the Kubuntu version did work, though.
[11:13] <adu> does Ubuntu use Gnome by default?
[11:14] <adu> k
[11:14] <gnomefreak> adu: yes and kubuntu uses kde and xubuntu uses xfce
[11:14] <KrisWood> yes ubuntu uses gnome by default
[11:14] <ompaul> Snow, install eric or idle to develop it
[11:14] <KrisWood> unless you use kubuntu
[11:14] <firepol> ubotu: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest breezy mai doesnt work
[11:14] <ubotu> firepol: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[11:14] <adu> thanks
[11:14] <liquidindian> gnomefreak, ompaul :  I found sudo i which does what I need, thanks :)
[11:14] <firepol> ubotu: its what im trying to explain you
[11:14] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, firepol
[11:14] <adu> i like gnome :)
[11:14] <Snow> How do I install Eric or Idle?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> firepol: define doesnt work?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Snow: apt-get install idle
[11:15] <Trunkz> Ubuntu seems to be having problems with my Combo Drive.. I had shut down the laptop, removed the old cd drive, and replaced it with a combo drive. Now for example, I put in a DVD.. Load up Totem, click on play dvd.. and it says failed to find mountpoint for /dev/hdc
[11:15] <Snow> Without the "sudo" part?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> eric isnt on live cd iirc
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Snow: with sudo
[11:15] <firepol> gomefreak: if i do apt-get update i get these errors: Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[11:15] <firepol> Reading package lists... Done
[11:15] <firepol> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_amarok-latest_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:15] <firepol> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:15] <firepol> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:15] <putte> How can I get sound from several applications at the same time?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> firepol: no pasting
[11:15] <firepol> sorry
[11:15] <ompaul> adu, ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xfce (for low powered machines), edubuntu gome aimed at education and kids, ubuntu-server -no X just a few more server packages but nothing you won't find in the repos
[11:15] <gnomefreak> firepol: run sudo apt-get update and paste the full thing to me on pastebin please
[11:16] <ompaul> Trunkz, does it play cds?
[11:16] <KrisWood> Snow, You'll get used to sudo after a while, it's there for your own safety. ;) You can alternatively use a root terminal but then you're eternally in root mode and that can be dangerous hehe
[11:16] <Snow> OK... I also need to get online, and to get my USB drive working so I can transfer files from Windows. (I'm hoping to have a dual installation.)
[11:16] <Trunkz> Well, I put in the Ubuntu install cd.. browsed to /media/cdrom0, and the files are there and everything
[11:16] <Snow> Actually, I'm not even sure how to get to the terminal or to this sudo program.
[11:16] <Trunkz> and it also works when I put a DVD in, I see the video_ts folder, with all the .vob files inside
[11:17] <gnomefreak> Snow: applications>accesories>terminal
[11:17] <Trunkz> But totem doesnt seem to be recognising the mount point o.O
[11:17] <firepol> gomefreak: http://pastebin.com/678465
[11:17] <Snow> That brings up the terminal, and there I type "sudo apt-get install [whatever] "?
[11:17] <Trunkz> Exact error: "Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab"
[11:18] <KrisWood> Snow, the terminal is in Applications > accessories
[11:18] <Snow> OK.
[11:18] <gnomefreak> firepol: go to kubuntu's main page i think its kubuntu.com and you will see different "working" repos for kubuntu and amarok
[11:18] <KrisWood> There was a root terminal in Applications > System Tools in hoary but I don't see it in Breezy hmmm
[11:19] <gnomefreak> KrisWood: you have to add it to menu in breezy and dapper
[11:19] <ompaul> Trunkz, put in the ubuntu CD and do this: df -h and put the output in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:19] <KrisWood> ah ok
[11:19] <gnomefreak> using smeg or alacarte
[11:19] <KrisWood> I'm not too worried about it, I've gotten in the habit of typing sudo now
[11:19] <Sir_X> KrisWood, or just open a regular terminal and type su -
[11:19] <gnomefreak> sudo -i will put you in "root" term
[11:19] <KrisWood> I don't think su works in ubuntu...
[11:20] <Snow> So... I add a program to the desktop so I can access a terminal to access sudo to install IDLE so I can run Python?
[11:20] <KrisWood> thanks gnomefreak, good to know
[11:20] <Sir_X> It does here, but maybe it's because I enabled the root user temporarily
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Sir_X: su is disabled in ubuntu by default and is _not_ recommended to enable it
[11:20] <KrisWood> Snow, Python should run native in ubuntu, you shouldn't have to run it through anything
[11:20] <firepol> gnomefreak, ill do that
[11:20] <Snow> Gnome: If that's so, how do I install stuff?
[11:20] <Trunkz> ompaul.. okey :o
[11:21] <will_> xawtv look like it will do it ... thanks anyway
[11:21] <Snow> Kris, how do I do that? I tried creating a .py file on the desktop and opening it. That gave me an editor, but I couldn't run it as code.
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Snow: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[11:21] <ompaul> Sir_X, what you do in the privacy of your own command line is your business, however in this channel we support doing things with sudo, please assist us in that thanks
[11:21] <Snow> Didn't you say sudo is disabled?
[11:21] <KrisWood> no
[11:22] <KrisWood> sudo is not disabled
[11:22] <ompaul> Snow, no root is disabled by default
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> Is there a Linux driver for a Lexmark P 6250 printer?  It's not listed on the wiki or linuxprinting.org.
[11:22] <Trunkz> !pastebin
[11:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:22] <Trunkz> better xD
[11:22] <KrisWood> sudo is ubuntu's way of keeping you from being root all the time
[11:22] <KrisWood> it's a good thing in the end
[11:22] <BlueEalge> snow: su is disabled sudo is enabled
[11:22] <ompaul> KrisWood, and in the beginning
[11:23] <KrisWood> lol ompaul
[11:23] <Trunkz> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12832
[11:23] <BlueEalge> tonyyarusso: Odds are that there isn't. Lexmark are not friendly to Linux. But please feel free to email them and ask for linux drivers for your printer. If enough people ask them they just might start making them.
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> BlueEalge: Was afraid of that.
[11:24] <putte> How can I make applications play sound simultaneously?
[11:24] <Snow> How about getting my wireless Net connection working? How do I do that?
[11:25] <firepol> gnomefreak: seems that amarok is no more releasing breezuy packages. latest trunks are available only for dapper
[11:25] <ompaul> Trunkz, try another DVD after you have implemented the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:25] <BlueEalge> snow: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[11:25] <firepol> gnomefreak: do you think Ill break my distro if I upgrade to dapper now?
[11:25] <liquidindian> putte,  I changed amarok to xine instead of gstreamer, and that worked.  I'm not too knowlegable, though
[11:25] <BlueEalge> !wireless
[11:25] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[11:25] <Trunkz> I've followed that wiki, and installed the libdvdcss3 package etc..
[11:26] <gnomefreak> firepol: theres that chance but its for most part "safe" or atleast the devel team feels it is
[11:27] <firepol> the devel team is probably using ubuntu, not kubuntu, right?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> firepol: i suggest if you want to upgrade to first make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed or kubuntu-desktop if using kde than changing sources.list to dappers list (will have ubotu send you list) and than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:27] <liquidindian> Odd question for here, but you're friendly.   Is it possible for XP to read ext3 partitions?  (Or does anyone use an iriver with ubuntu?)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> firepol: the devel team for kubuntu uses kubuntu
[11:27] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: There are a couple of ext3 drivers. Most of them are read-only afaik.
[11:28] <gnomefreak> firepol: or it wouldnt be developed
[11:28] <KrisWood> Snow, do you mean get your wireless net working in safe mode? I'm not sure if it will work in safe mode on the live cd like that
[11:28] <Snow> No, once I try installing.
[11:28] <KrisWood> ah ok
[11:28] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+ext3+filesystem
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell firepol about sources
[11:28] <Snow> And am I correct in assuming I can safely install from the install CD, onto a Windows machine, without it eating my Windows and files?
[11:28] <KrisWood> it should just automagicly work if your network is set for dhcp
[11:28] <ompaul> Trunkz, just try this ls -al /media/*  and paste that into paste.ubuntu-nl.org thanks
[11:29] <KrisWood> Snow, no, windows may well get eaten
[11:29] <liquidindian> BlueEalge,  thanks.  Looks like I'm going to have to install XP to get my girlfriend's mp3 player working :/
[11:29] <KrisWood> You'll want to back up stuff first
[11:29] <gnomefreak> firepol: use the link that ends in 6666 and replace yours with that
[11:29] <ompaul> Trunkz, I am trying to discover the layout of your machine - as the software sees it
[11:29] <hyphenated> Snow: most people manage to do that without any trouble, but back things up "just in case" and follow the instructions precisely
[11:29] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: Really? Isn't that just an USB storage device?
[11:29] <KrisWood> Snow, yeah, what hyphenated said
[11:29] <Trunkz> ompaul, aight :P.. tryin to see if VLC will play the DVD
[11:30] <luke_> how do I erase my 'history' in console?
[11:30] <KrisWood> Snow, it helps if you have a second hard drive or partition that you can install ubuntu on which has no windows files on it
[11:30] <liquidindian> BlueEalge,  That's what I thought.  I can tranfer files across, but the mp3 player doesn't 'see' them.
[11:30] <KrisWood> Then there's little risk to the rest of your files
[11:30] <hyphenated> luke_: in a shell, type in 'help history'
[11:30] <firepol> gnomefreak, i dont get the "6666", what do you mean with that number?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> firepol: look in your pm
[11:31] <Snow> Says here that my model of wireless card "works out of the box, though CD-installer doesn't recognize it."
[11:31] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: Then you've probably just put them in the wrong directory.
[11:31] <Snow> "configure it from the gnome network config tool."
[11:32] <Snow> Any particular way I should configure it?
[11:32] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: Some (most?) mp3 players has got to have the files in a spesific dir to access them. I know that my g/fs mp3 player has got something like a database too to keep track of the tunes. That needs a spesific util to update.
[11:32] <KrisWood> The gnome network config tool isn't too horrible. Most of its elements should be familiar to most windows users who've set up networking of any sort before, I think
[11:32] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: however you can manually browse the filesystem of that player.
[11:32] <ompaul> Snow, click on system administration networking highlight the card enable it and and configure it to your network
[11:32] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, that makes sense, as it thinks the files I deleted are still there.
[11:33] <KrisWood> Snow, it'll ask you for a password, it's the same password you use for sudo
[11:34] <Snow> And what password will that be?
[11:34] <KrisWood> whatever password you choose
[11:35] <KrisWood> when you install it should ask you to choose a root password
[11:35] <bliss1_> ompaul: just in case you did not get the reposted pastebin here is the url http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=387628&postcount=18
[11:35] <Snow> OK.
[11:35] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: Well then you just need to find out how that database thing works. Have you got any option of browsing the filesystem on the player itself?
[11:35] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: what is the make and model of it?
[11:36] <ompaul> bliss1_, I did not see it
[11:36] <bliss1_> ompaul; lets keep it simple do not read url i will post pastebin
[11:36] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, An Iriver H10, 1Gig
[11:36] <Dime|RD> can someone help me get gDesklets
[11:37] <Dime|RD> im looking for help on installing it
[11:37] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, I think it's called a Jr, it's a bit confusing at I bought it here in Japan.
[11:37] <ompaul> bliss1_, ls -al iasl <<please
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> I have two machines hooked up with a crossover ethernet cable, IPs are set to <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>, same mask, but I can't ping between them.  Why?
[11:38] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: bad news on http://www.playerblog.com/archives/000493.shtml
[11:38] <Arafangion> The upgrade to Dapper broke my system. Could anyone help me recover information from my ext3 partitions that lived on LVM?
[11:38] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, Actually, looking in the system files on it is a H10Jr
[11:38] <davecb> How can i install TTF fonts on ubuntu????
[11:38] <Snow> Oh, right -- once I get IDLE going, how do I run Python programs independently from the interpreter?
[11:38] <Arafangion> davecb: I think you just put them into ~/.font or ~/.fonts
[11:38] <davecb> hmmmmmmm
[11:39] <davecb> no addons needed?
[11:39] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, Yep, that's a picture of it :)
[11:39] <Arafangion> davecb: afaik, no.
[11:39] <Codename_V> Snow: you don't
[11:39] <Sir_X> Shouldn't postfix be able to relay my mails to the ISP's smtp server without any special config?
[11:39] <Codename_V> Snow: python is an interpreted language
[11:39] <Arafangion> davecb: Linux has used truetype fonts for a LONG time.
[11:39] <Arafangion> Codename_V: Not neccessarily.
[11:39] <Snow> In Windows I can double-click on a .py file and it runs. Or I can open it in IDLE.
[11:39] <Codename_V> Arafangion: ok, I spose
[11:39] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: "Specifically iRiver said that the H10 will only support Microsoft's new Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) instead of the more common Mass Storage Class (MSC)." <= bad news
[11:40] <Arafangion> Snow: ONLY .exe's can be executed on windows.
[11:40] <Arafangion> Snow: Chances are, you have .py files "associated" with python, thus when you double click on the file, the OS tells python to load the file.
[11:40] <BlueEalge> snow: If you want to run a .py file in linux you need to make it executable (chmod a+x filename.py). Check man chmod for more options.
[11:41] <Arafangion> Snow: On linux, you have to actually make them executable, (chmod +x), and add #!/usr/bin/python as the first line of the program.
[11:41] <ompaul> Snow, you need to wrap them in python so the first line of the script should say:: #!/usr/bin/env python
[11:41] <bliss1_> pomaul; -rw-r--r--  1 bliss1 bliss1<PHONE_NUMBER>-04-24 08:18 iasl
[11:41] <bliss1_>   should i chmod+x iasl?
[11:41] <BlueEalge> snow: Also the files need to start with #!/usr/bin/python
[11:41] <hyphenated> need to make it executable _and_ make the first line say "#!/usr/bin/env python" or equivalent
[11:41] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, There a link at the bottom, though.  Thanks!
[11:41] <ompaul> bliss1_, I would
[11:41] <gnomefreak> Snow: you can double click them in ubuntu also but first you have to maek the file executable using chmod a+x file.py
[11:41] <Arafangion> So, does anybody know how one might mount LVM drives?
[11:41] <ompaul> bliss1_, 744 actually
[11:41] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: well, what do you know. :)
[11:42] <KrisWood> If someone wanted to make a suggestion to the ubuntu dev team how would they go about it?
[11:42] <ndlovu> tonyyarusso: cable good (do you have a link light)? firewall maybe?
[11:42] <ompaul> bliss1_, unless its a single user box
[11:42] <bliss1_> ompaul: yep its only me
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: Link light?  No.  Firewalling's built into the kernel of course.
[11:42] <firepol> KrisWood: forums?
[11:42] <KrisWood> hmmm good idea
[11:42] <KrisWood> I'll try that thanks
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: (I did this once before but don't remember how for the life of me.)
[11:42] <gnomefreak> hyphenated: !#/usr/bin/python should be fine since that is where the py interpruter is by default
[11:43] <dsas> Sound output has stopped working in Dapper - any ideas?
[11:43] <dsas> sorry wrong channel.
[11:43] <ndlovu> tonyyarusso: could it not be a cable problem?
[11:43] <firepol> KrisWood: also try to chat in #kubuntu channel
[11:43] <hyphenated> gnomefreak: on linux distros, it usually is. not so on other UNIX ones tho
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: I don't think so.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> hyphenated: true
[11:44] <Sonderblade> how do you change which language open office uses to spell check?
[11:44] <troglo> troglo
[11:44] <gnomefreak> hyphenated: i normally assume they are here for ubuntu help but truthfully i shouldnt assume that
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Sonderblade: in the OOo settings iirc
[11:45] <luke_> omg my Netgear Router wont allow me to perform port scans outbound of my network...
[11:45] <ndlovu> tonyyarusso: I also did it once but can't remember how :-)
[11:45] <will_> can i free space by deleting the downloaded files for the installed packages ??
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: Ah.
[11:45] <Sonderblade> gnomefreak: more specific?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Sonderblade: in the writer/whatever OOo package in the tool bar there should be settings or prefferences
[11:46] <BlueEalge> luke_: ...and how is that a bad thing?
[11:46] <luke_> because I want to perform a portscan of my server
[11:47] <Sir_X> Is it possible to search for a specific phrase in all files?
[11:47] <BlueEalge> luke_: there are free 3rd party utils/web pages to do that.
[11:47] <ndlovu> tonyyarusso: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=110270 might help (not comprehensive)
[11:48] <will_> guys .... what folder does synaptic download install files to ??
[11:48] <martyn> Whats the best allround Media player like Win Meidaplayer
[11:48] <Snow> OK, I'm overwhelmed with info right now. Thanks for the help.
[11:49] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, Hmm, doesn't work on this player.  BAH
[11:49] <luke_> BlueEagle, yes but surely theres someway I can configure my router to allow it
[11:50] <bliss1_> ompaul; i have the correct command here ?  sudo sh ./iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[11:52] <ompaul> bliss1_, no ./iasl -d dsdt.aml
[11:53] <BlueEalge> luke_: open a browser on your server (links or lynx will do) and head to http://scan.sygatetech.com/
[11:53] <BlueEalge> luke_: ...and check netgears site for information on your router.
[11:54] <bliss1_> ompaul; no i do have a .aml file thats what I am trying to make by invoking  sudo sh ./iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[11:54] <bliss1_>    look at http://pastebin.ca/50902
[11:56] <ompaul> bliss1_, you create that using>>> cat /proc/acpi/dsdt > dsdt.aml
[11:56] <akonkwa> Hi everyone
[11:56] <luke_> BlueEalge, thanks
[11:56] <akonkwa> Does anyone Know How I can add fonts to inkscape?
[11:56] <akonkwa> Im using breezy
[11:56] <bliss1_> ompaul; did you  read the pastebin or have i misundrstood it
[11:58] <thatGuy_> !divx
[11:58] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:58] <Dime|RD> im upgrading to drake right now
[11:58] <Dime|RD> i guess the drake release is not final
[11:59] <spikeb> no, it's in beta
[11:59] <Dime|RD> when the final is released will be be able to upgrade like so?
[12:00] <BlueEalge> luke_: ain't no thing. :)
[12:00] <spikeb> yeah Dime|RD
[12:01] <akonkwa> Does anyone Know How I can add fonts to inkscape?
[12:01] <PaoloC> what is the difference between apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[12:01] <BlueEalge> luke_: oh, and if the router does allow you to disable the blocking of port scans please enable it again after you have performed the neccessary scan(s). Even the most tech savy user might get infected by trojans that portscan other hosts.
[12:02] <luke_> will do mate
[12:02] <GreySim> akonkwa: I think you should just be able to drop fonts in ~/.fonts and have Inkscape get them automatically.  Inkscape may need a restart though, but I'm not sure.  I remember 1-2 apps I used to use didn't always catch on to the new fonts without a restart...
[12:02] <BlueEalge> paoloc: apt-get upgrade upgrades all new packages of your current distribution. apt-get distupgrade upgrades all files to the newest distro (ie. from hoary to breezy or from breezy to dapper) (both need apt-get update first)
[12:03] <BlueEalge> dime|rd: dapper drake is still beta. Will be stable by june 1st afaik.
[12:03] <Dime|RD> kool
[12:03] <Dime|RD> what are the differences?
[12:04] <Dime|RD> anything much?
[12:04] <PaoloC> I'm on dapper and today doing apt-get update I got:
[12:04] <PaoloC> paolo@Italia:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:04] <PaoloC> Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto
[12:04] <PaoloC> Generazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso... Fatto
[12:04] <PaoloC> I seguenti pacchetti sono stati mantenuti alla versione attuale:
[12:04] <PaoloC>   gnome-cups-manager hplip-data linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 python-netcdf
[12:04] <PaoloC> 0 aggiornati, 0 installati, 0 da rimuovere e 5 non aggiornati.
[12:05] <PaoloC> so i had to do dist-upgrade...
[12:10] <KrisWood> I've got a small problem: I tried to empty my trash and now I can't open anything in the "places" menu and cannot open the trash from its icon either
[12:10] <KrisWood> anyone have any ideas on how to resolve something like that?
[12:11] <GatoLoko> hi
[12:11] <BlueEalge> ubotu: tell paoloc about pastebin
[12:12] <newadmin> hi all..
[12:12] <KrisWood> ok what's the command to restart nautilus?
[12:12] <newadmin> i really need help ight now..
[12:13] <newadmin> ive got printing problem after i upgrade my dapper
[12:13] <GatoLoko> I've tried to install a package that says there is a conflict with a previous installed one. I know what do each conflickting package and what to install both (i think there must be no conflict and are thinking on filing a bug), is posible to install them?
[12:13] <newadmin> i use ubuntu dapper for print server..
[12:14] <newadmin> i use cupsys.. yesterday before i upgrade it, the cups was running smoth.. but today after i upgrade, the cups is not running well..
[12:15] <newadmin> the problem is, our window client could not print trough the print server.
[12:15] <pitti> newadmin: can you please look for a similar bug on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bugs, and if there is no such bug yet, file one?
[12:15] <newadmin> this is the error msg: I [24/Apr/2006:16:50:16 +0700]  Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported: Unsupported format 'application/octet-stream'!
[12:16] <newadmin> ouch.. i reaaly need help.. no one could print today.. :(
[12:16] <pitti> newadmin: you are on dapper, right?
[12:16] <KrisWood> ok I found nautilus restart but it's not fixing my problem.... :-/
[12:16] <KrisWood> does anyone know how to empty the trash from the terminal?
[12:17] <newadmin> yes.. i use dapper drake
[12:18] <Adross> for some reason, my ubuntu keeps freezing. I'll be using, then bam, nothing responds. Now, when i restart, the gui won't start at all and my monitor displays the 'no signal' sign. Thoughts?
[12:18] <GreySim> KrisWood: rm ~/.Trash
[12:18] <GreySim> I think.
[12:18] <newadmin> the link u've just gae me (launchpad) is error
[12:18] <GatoLoko> KrisWood try deleting the content of .Trash directory in your home
[12:18] <pitti> newadmin: so, please open a bug and attach your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and the error_log
[12:18] <pitti> newadmin: you can revert to the previous version for now to repair it for you
[12:18] <pitti> newadmin: but I'd like to fix it in the current version
[12:18] <newadmin> how to downgrade my cupsys?
[12:19] <pitti> newadmin: oh,  could you try to remove and re-add the printer?
[12:19] <Sir_X> I have a cron question
[12:19] <newadmin> yes i could..
[12:19] <desastre> en catala
[12:19] <newadmin> the printer is ok when people print from linux client.. but not windows..
[12:20] <Adross> for some reason, my ubuntu keeps freezing. I'll be using, then bam, nothing responds. Now, when i restart, the gui won't start at all and my monitor displays the 'no signal' sign. Thoughts?
[12:21] <newadmin> i've googling bout it, and they said to uncomment "application/octet-stream" in /etc/cups/mime.types
[12:21] <Sir_X> Cron/sendmail question: I had to disable the MSP queues line in /etc/cron.d/sendmail because it was sending out mails to the root user of my ISP (??) for some odd reason. What are MSP queues, why should the line be there and how do I get it to send the mails to my local root user instead of to my ISP's root (probably it sent it to root but used the relayhost option in the postfix config)
[12:21] <newadmin> and in /etc/cups/mime.convs
[12:21] <newadmin> but still not work.. :((
[12:21] <PaoloC> I installed webboard on dapper but I doesn't start...
[12:22] <doms> wer i can download more fontwork gallery in my open writer
[12:22] <newadmin> whaa.. help me.. my client start yelling at me.. :((
[12:23] <newadmin> haloo..
[12:24] <newadmin> hello.. pitti where r u??
[12:24] <newadmin> please help.
[12:24] <pitti> newadmin: I need more specific information, like your configuratoin file and error_log, and what 'yelling' is in particluar :)
[12:25] <newadmin> where could i send you my config files?
[12:25] <KrisWood> thanks to those who answered me, I ended up googling it while waiting and forgot to check back here, the solution was indeed to rm .Trash followed by doing a killall nautilus to get everything running normal again
[12:25] <FearMoth> is there supposed to be a parport0 node in dapper? I'm trying to get xsane working with a parallel scanner, but it only runs as root.
[12:25] <pitti> newadmin: just attach them to the bug report
[12:26] <pitti> newadmin: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+filebug
[12:26] <PaoloC> ok, here is where you can see the problem I had with apt-get upgrade: http://pastebin.com/678527
[12:26] <pitti> FearMoth: /dev/lp0
[12:27] <FearMoth> pitti: should I make a symlink?
[12:27] <upmanza> hola
[12:27] <pitti> FearMoth: no, you should just use that device
[12:27] <newadmin> i think current cupsys cannot load mime.type "application/octet-stream"
[12:27] <upmanza> alguien espaol
[12:28] <GatoLoko> is possible to override the conflict between two packages?
[12:28] <FearMoth> pitti: any idea why xsane only detects my scanner while running as root?
[12:28] <pitti> newadmin: this is a generic 'binary' mime type, there's no driver for it
[12:28] <pitti> FearMoth: /dev/lp0 has group 'lp'?
[12:28] <FearMoth> yeah
[12:28] <FearMoth> and my regular user's in group lp and scanner
[12:29] <pitti> FearMoth: oh, well, you shouldn't actually be in 'lp', but if you are, it should just work
[12:29] <Alexi5> hello
[12:29] <pitti> FearMoth: but I don't have a scanner, sorry; file a bug maybe?
[12:29] <Steven_M> is there an ubuntu package for midnight commander?
[12:29] <pitti> Steven_M: mv
[12:29] <pitti> Steven_M: mc, sorry
[12:31] <selinium> FearMoth, try uninstalling and reinstalling xsane... It migt have got it's knickers in a twist... Remember to purge config files..
[12:31] <FearMoth> tried many times.. would the ppdev module need to be loaded? it's not, but xsane works as root, so I don't see why I would need to load it
[12:32] <Steven_M> pitti: is mc the package name, or merly the command to run it?
[12:32] <pitti> Steven_M: both actually
[12:33] <Steven_M> ok thanks
[12:35] <bigfoot1> how do i check my java version?
[12:36] <bimberi> bigfoot1: java -version
[12:36] <newadmin> hi pitti.. i just submit the bugs report..
[12:36] <zido> i'm using a Laptop with Ubuntu 5.10, and i was wondering, where should i look/what program to use if i want to use an external screen?
[12:37] <pitti> newadmin: thanks
[12:37] <newadmin> i also thank you in advance.. i really need the help..
[12:38] <pitti> newadmin: so, 'sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/cupsys_1.1.99.b1.r4929-0ubuntu9_*.deb' reverts to the previous version, btw
[12:39] <newadmin> $ sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/cupsys_1.1.99.b1.r4929-0ubuntu6_i386.deb
[12:39] <newadmin> dpkg - warning: downgrading cupsys from 1.1.99.rc2-0ubuntu1 to 1.1.99.b1.r4929-0ubuntu6.
[12:39] <pitti> newadmin: that looks good :)
[12:40] <newadmin> Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/cupsys ...
[12:40] <newadmin> Installing new version of config file /etc/logrotate.d/cupsys ...
[12:40] <newadmin>  * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd cupsd: Child exited on signal 11!
[12:40] <newadmin> invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "start" failed.
[12:40] <newadmin> admin@sta30:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop
[12:40] <newadmin>  * Stopping Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                                                                        [ ok ]
[12:40] <newadmin> admin@sta30:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[12:40] <newadmin>  * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd cupsd: Child exited on signal 11!
[12:40] <pitti> newadmin: hm, seems you need to downgrade (i. e. install) libcups*.deb and cupsys-client*.deb as well
[12:41] <george-remp> hi, how can i install activex?
[12:42] <FearMoth> is /etc/init.d/networking == /etc/init.d/inetd in dapper?
[12:42] <GreySim> Does anyone know if it would be bad to have Avahi and Howl on the same machine?  I have this tutorial here which uses Howl, but the impression that I get from various sources is that Avahi is preferable, but I don't know enough about either to translate these instructions over to Avahi.  http://viebrock.ca/article/22/file-sharing-from-linux-to-os-x-a-quick-guide
[12:42] <thatGuy_> !flash
[12:42] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:42] <newadmin> pittiiiiiii... horeee...
[12:42] <_JuDgEn_> !raid
[12:42] <ubotu> I guess raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[12:43] <spikeb> im looking forward to gnash, it's looking like a bright futured project
[12:43] <newadmin> it work again... :)
[12:43] <newadmin> i just did your instruction.. :)
[12:43] <dt-oz-gc> Hi all. I get the message "Network host 'alice' is busy; will retry in 30 seconds..." when I try to print from on eubuntu host to a printer on the other. Anyway know why?
[12:43] <_JuDgEn_> !ntfs raid
[12:44] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _JuDgEn_
[12:44] <newadmin> i thinks current cupsys in dapper repo have big problem..
[12:44] <dt-oz-gc> I am running Breezy
[12:44] <falcon3> ntfs raid on linux... jich!
[12:44] <falcon3> evil! pure evil !!
[12:45] <newadmin> pitti.. thank you so much.. :) now our Windows clien could print again.. :)
[12:45] <pitti> newadmin: heh, no problem; the real problem will be to fix it for the 1.2rc2 version
[12:45] <dt-oz-gc> Has anyone got printing to work from one ubuntu box to another?
[12:46] <GreySim> Okay, nevermind.  Just gonna not try the easy way out and read up more on Avahi instead.  :)
[12:46] <newadmin> ok. we'll waiting for it.. :)
[12:46] <newadmin> ok.. now i've to go to fix another print server.. :D
[12:47] <newadmin> cu. bye.. :)
[12:49] <Beawolfe> Can someone tell me if a fat32 data drive can be shared by both Win XP Pro and Ubuntu?
[12:49] <coz_> before I reboot and most likely get the same error I ws hoping someone here could tell me hoe to get around the following error
[12:49] <catholikos> hi all
[12:50] <coz_> "ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist
[12:50] <coz_> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off
[12:50] <catholikos> what is nfs?
[12:50] <bimberi> Beawolfe: yes
[12:50] <bimberi> !nfs
[12:50] <ubotu> methinks nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:51] <Beawolfe> is ther any particulars I need to know about?
[12:51] <bimberi> catholikos: it stands for "Network File System"
[12:51] <catholikos>  thx
[12:51] <catholikos> i am upgrading from hoary to breezy
[12:51] <bimberi> Beawolfe: read and write from both is possible
[12:52] <bimberi> !upgrade
[12:52] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[12:52] <catholikos> andi read i can
[12:52] <catholikos> If not running NFS as either client or server, remove portmap, as it's no longer needed:
[12:52] <catholikos> sudo apt-get --purge remove portma
[12:52] <Beawolfe> right now Ubuntu wont right to my ntsf drives...but I have a spare 20 gigger I can use for nothing but data so I can move files back and forth
[12:53] <thatGuy_> gnomef: just wanna tell you completely COMPLETE these directions are on the wiki about restricted formats. LOVE IT
[12:53] <thatGuy_> gnomefreak ^^^
[12:53] <coz_> ALERT! /dev/sda does not exist      /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[12:53] <thatGuy_> poningru_ ^^^
[12:54] <bimberi> !ext3
[12:54] <ubotu> I guess ext3 is a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/written from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:54] <bimberi> Beawolfe: ^^^^^ is another option
[12:54] <liquidindian> How can I check a symbolic link in the terminal?
[12:55] <hachre> liquidindian: ls -l /path/to/the/link | grep -i nameofthelink
[12:55] <_JuDgEn_> ln-s
[12:55] <bimberi> liquidindian: 'ls -l link' will show you where it points to
[12:55] <Beawolfe> bimberi..... All I have to do is mark the drive from both OS's as a shared drive right?
[12:55] <liquidindian> Thanks!
[12:55] <thatGuy_> thatGuy_: test
[12:56] <bimberi> Beawolfe: yes, you get each OS to mount the drive.  Is this a dualboot setup?
[12:58] <thatGuy_> !ext3
[12:58] <ubotu> I guess ext3 is a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/written from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:59] <Beawolfe> bimberi...yes it is a dual boot system
[01:00] <bimberi> Beawolfe: kk - i think my advice is ok then :)
[01:01] <Beawolfe> I have been trying to get Captive-Static to install tonight but to no avail
[01:01] <Frogzoo> !captive
[01:01] <ubotu> methinks captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[01:02] <Beawolfe> okay Thanx
[01:03] <Beawolfe> will just install the spare drive so I can quit writing dvd -r's to move files of of the Ubuntu drive
[01:03] <spikeb> yeah use ext3 or fat32 for a shared drive
[01:04] <Beawolfe> Okay Thanx!
[01:05] <needlz_> captive works on ubuntu :)
[01:06] <hachre> !captive
[01:06] <ubotu> captive is, like, totally, a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[01:06] <needlz_> oh
[01:06] <hachre> :P
[01:06] <Beawolfe> Someone early yesterday morning told me that was what I needed to write to a ntfs drive
[01:06] <needlz_> ill ask my room mate in a few hours
[01:06] <needlz_> i KNOW he uses captive
[01:06] <needlz_> :)
[01:06] <hachre> hehe
[01:06] <needlz_> hes a fcking dual boot'er :P
[01:06] <liquidindian> I'm trying to run a script to start a game, but it won't execute with bash...
[01:06] <needlz_> liquidindian: pastebin.ca
[01:07] <needlz_> paste the code
[01:07] <Beawolfe> it is just alot easier to format a drive with fat32 and use it for storage between the two
[01:07] <needlz_> or paste the error message
[01:07] <Frogzoo> would be nice to how one defines "does not work properly" - this implies it could seem to work, but have some obscure bug that will screw all your data
[01:07] <_JuDgEn_> needlz_ just use the extdriver for windows instead
[01:07] <_JuDgEn_> n00b
[01:07] <_JuDgEn_> its faster
[01:08] <needlz_> n00b? im not using windows at all
[01:08] <_JuDgEn_> hehe
[01:08] <hachre> lol
[01:08] <hachre> why is a windows user a noob?
[01:08] <needlz_> and btw, i would call anyone a n00b with YOUR nick
[01:08] <_JuDgEn_> needlz_ im just yakin ya =)
[01:08] <needlz_> hachre: i didnt say that :)
[01:08] <hachre> :)
[01:08] <Frogzoo> hachre: all doze users are noobs, that's why they use windows :)
[01:08] <Beawolfe> needlz...I am a f**king daul booter for now also....just installed ubuntu 2 days ago and still trying to learn the OS
[01:08] <_JuDgEn_> needlz_ i have had this nick since the tims of the bbs systems
[01:08] <Beawolfe> dual even
[01:08] <needlz_> Beawolfe: c'mon, dont take it personal, i was just kidding :)
[01:09] <Frogzoo> !tell Beawolfe about docs
[01:09] <bimberi> Frogzoo: the factoid is probably getting out of date - i recall the dapper install offers ntfs write if it finds an ntfs partition (with warnings)
[01:09] <needlz_> _JuDgEn_: heh alright
[01:09] <Frogzoo> bimberi: cool, in a scary kind of way
[01:09] <_JuDgEn_> atm, im using BeOS =))
[01:09] <_JuDgEn_> beos can also use ext volumes... really nice
[01:09] <bimberi> Frogzoo: :)
[01:10] <Beawolfe> Frogzoo.......I have been all over wiki trying to find answers the last 2 days now
[01:10] <_JuDgEn_> gonna play some quake3 soon in BeOS =) (just recently releasede) only five years or so after windows and the first release of quake3 for beos
[01:11] <_JuDgEn_> Beawolfe what do you need?
[01:12] <Beawolfe> I have had alot of problems just trying to get stuff to install to the OS.....Captive-Static is the last one I needed to install for now.........and once I do get stuff installed how can I get it on the menu system for use?
[01:13] <natta> hi really silly q: how do i make 'cp' copy hidden folders?
[01:13] <Beawolfe> I installed dvdrtools but cant find it now or run it at all
[01:13] <MrTrick> I want to save the exact state of my system before I make some changes - a full backup, of course.   If you're interested in rough equivalents Rhythmbox, Banshee, and I guess Amarok would be good choices to look at.
[01:21] <FearMoth> thanks
[01:21] <chx> I would like to offer a helping hand and would be happy to offer (for free, of course) Ubuntu CDs in Hungary. Where should I enlist? :)
[01:21] <hachre> chx: I think it's best to ask somewhere on the forums at www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:22] <Beawolfe> needlz "no default action for that location"
[01:22] <hachre> Beawolfe: you are trying to double click it?
[01:22] <Beawolfe> no I have tried through the terminal to get it to run
[01:23] <hachre> Beawolfe: if its a .tar.bz2 you need to extract it
[01:23] <hachre> Beawolfe: using tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2
[01:25] <spikeb> amarok is a good equivilent feature wise, although not interface wise
[01:25] <Sir_X> What would you suggest: enabling catch-all at my ISP and have the mail sorted out locally or creating a popbox for each user at my ISP pull it directly through fetchmail and postfix to the correct user
[01:25] <Beawolfe> it says it isnt a bzip2 file
[01:26] <hachre> Beawolfe: whats its exact name?
[01:28] <Beawolfe> captive-static-1.1.7.tar.gz
[01:28] <hachre> Beawolfe: oh
[01:28] <ubuntu_user``> i have problems, because ubuntu cannot handle correctly "cp1251" encoded text. anyone with the same problem?
[01:28] <hachre> Beawolfe: then you need tar xvzf file.tar.gz2
[01:28] <hachre> Beawolfe: err
[01:28] <hachre> Beawolfe: .gz
[01:28] <hachre> Beawolfe: tar xvzf file.tar.gz and tar xvjf file.tar.bz2
[01:29] <hachre> Beawolfe: x stands for eXtract, v stands for Verbose, z for extracting gZ, f for File
[01:30] <taran> hello
[01:30] <Beawolfe> oaky it extarcted...to where I dont know but it says it extacted
[01:30] <ReD_BuLLeT> hello , i have a quastion please tell me how can i change the premmisons of the files ?
[01:31] <hachre> Beawolfe: well there should be alot of files displayed on your screen
[01:31] <taran> hello guys i have a problem
[01:31] <Sir_X> ReD_BuLLeT: chmod permissions file
[01:31] <hachre> Beawolfe: it always extracts into the directory you start the command in
[01:31] <Beawolfe> only three
[01:31] <taran> gnome.pm problem
[01:31] <hachre> Beawolfe: those are the files you extracted
[01:32] <needlz_> heh
[01:32] <hachre> Beawolfe: i dont know anything about captive though so i cant help you further
[01:32] <taran> how can get this gnome.pm to install on my ubuntu
[01:32] <needlz_> Beawolfe: lol
[01:32] <needlz_> unpacked it now?
[01:33] <bliss1_> hi
[01:33] <bliss1_> ompaul: its ok
[01:33] <sneex> is there a way to get gnome to execute certain programms on log out?
[01:33] <ompaul> bliss1_, you got sorted, my isp thought it was fun to break my connection
[01:34] <Beawolfe> it did extract to the desktop where I had it and it had an install file in the folder......tried to run it in file browser and nothing happened
[01:34] <bliss1_> ompaul; yes i did sack then you have the power
[01:34] <needlz_> Beawolfe: open a shell
[01:34] <bliss1_> ompaul; zen rule ok
[01:34] <needlz_> and type: cd <your captive dir>
[01:34] <Beawolfe> you mean the terminal?
[01:34] <needlz_> and read the INSTALL file
[01:34] <needlz_> yeah
[01:35] <needlz_> hold on, ill download it and read it for you ;>
[01:35] <bliss1_> ompaul; if i have postfix a nd i close it for say a day will the mails commig in get returned
[01:35] <Beawolfe> I found it
[01:35] <needlz_> k
[01:35] <needlz_> pico INSTALL
[01:35] <needlz_> anything special mentioned in it?
[01:36] <ompaul> bliss1_, unless there is a host that will hold them for you - a secondary mx
[01:36] <needlz_> oh
[01:36] <Beawolfe> it gives me a text file
[01:36] <needlz_> there isnt a INSTALL file at all
[01:36] <needlz_> ok
[01:36] <needlz_> then
[01:36] <needlz_> try
[01:36] <needlz_> ./install
[01:36] <needlz_> err, sudo ./install
[01:36] <bliss1_> ompaul: i do not have a 2nd mx record
[01:37] <alberto> first time using xchat
[01:38] <bliss1_> ompaul: maybe on my isp's  inbox i have a smtp feed
[01:38] <ompaul> bliss1_, not unless it is documented :-/
[01:39] <bliss1_> ompaul in other words they will bounce!!!!!!!!!
[01:40] <Beawolfe> it says too few arguments
[01:40] <bliss1_> ompaul; in the words of that alki god Elvis return to sender address unknown
[01:41] <hajuu> bliss1_,
[01:41] <hajuu> lay off the drugs
[01:41] <hajuu> I mean come on
[01:41] <hajuu> alki king elvis?
[01:42] <hajuu> poodle swizzle table to you too
[01:42] <bliss1_> hajuu: kicks him in the head
[01:42] <bigfoot1> where's my java directory?
[01:42] <needlz_> Beawolfe: hm
[01:43] <bliss1_> bliss1- tells himself to behave
[01:43] <needlz_> you typed: "sudo ./install" in the captive directory?
[01:43] <kevinz> what's the default vnc server in ubuntu? I found that it is automatically on and guard the display :0
[01:43] <Beawolfe> oh well I think it is time I give up for the day and get some sleep and try again when I get up.................Thanx for all the help!
[01:43] <ompaul> bliss1_, heh, I would not have gone that far
[01:43] <scenestar> i know that debian binaries are incompatible with ubuntu but can i still use debian src repos for apt-build dep
[01:44] <needlz_> Beawolfe: mhm prolly, i cant even find the error message in the "install" script ;)
[01:44] <ompaul> bliss1_, but RTS is the way
[01:44] <bliss1_> ompaul; RTS?
[01:45] <Beawolfe> Thanx Again All!
[01:45] <ompaul> bliss1_,  return to sender
[01:45] <scenestar> hmmm
[01:45] <scenestar> anyone?
[01:46] <kroiz> Hi, how can I upgrade qt lib to 4.1.2? please
[01:46] <scenestar> build it from source kroiz
[01:46] <bliss1_> ompaul: how can i install 6.0.6 directly from the internet
[01:46] <scenestar> ompaul as in?
[01:46] <scenestar> a net install?
[01:46] <kroiz> I could not find it
[01:46] <kroiz> is it the troll tech
[01:46] <ompaul> bliss1_, net install is in the wiki
[01:47] <bliss1_> ompaul: which one
[01:47] <scenestar> kroiz
[01:47] <scenestar> http://freshmeat.net/redir/qt/8673/url_tgz/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.1.2.tar.gz
[01:47] <scenestar> wget http://freshmeat.net/redir/qt/8673/url_tgz/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.1.2.tar.gz
[01:47] <kroiz> wow thanks alot
[01:47] <scenestar> ./configure && make && make install
[01:47] <scenestar> as root
[01:48] <scenestar> allthough its probably best you check the docs and use checkinstall
[01:48] <ompaul> bliss1_, on the page the bot sent you -- then there is this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[01:49] <kroiz> I dont know what is checkinstall but I will sure read the docs
[01:49] <bliss1_> ompaul: thanks does this make sence it you have a large swap partition you can have more virtual memory?
[01:49] <scenestar> kroiz it keeps track of installed files with make in apt
[01:50] <ompaul> scenestar, kfoiz >>sudo './configure && make && make install'<<
[01:50] <kroiz> is this tar is with the full sdk?
[01:50] <scenestar> sudo or su
[01:50] <scenestar> same thing
[01:50] <ompaul> bliss1_, the suggested size is 2.5 times or there abouts your actual ram -
[01:50] <ompaul> scenestar, they are not
[01:50] <scenestar> ompaul im not having this discussion with you
[01:50] <ompaul> scenestar, this distro uses sudo
[01:51] <scenestar> says who
[01:51] <ompaul> its in its design spec
[01:51] <ompaul> !root
[01:51] <scenestar> link me
[01:51] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:51] <bliss1_> ompaul: how does your os allocate RAM to swap is it automatic?
[01:51] <ompaul> bliss1_, automagic
[01:52] <ompaul> bliss1_, how much ram have you got?
[01:53] <scenestar> bliss1_ : cat /proc/meminfo
[01:53] <bliss1_> ompaul: total 768mb but i think at the moment free says 710mb
[01:54] <ompaul> bliss1_, betweek 1.5G and 2G should be enough for you, if you get anything close to to those levels of use you have serious issues :)
[01:54] <bliss1_> scenestar; thanks
[01:55] <scenestar> bliss1_ : you're welcome
[01:56] <bliss1_> ompaul; serious issues/ just kill -9 does the job sometimes
[01:56] <thatGuy_> does external display work on ubuntu?
[01:56] <scenestar> thatGuy_ what
[01:56] <scenestar> be more specific
[01:56] <thatGuy_> like on a laptop
[01:56] <thatGuy_> using an external monitor
[01:56] <scenestar> depends on the chipset
[01:56] <scenestar> xorg version
[01:56] <bliss1_> scenestar; well now i am worried
[01:56] <scenestar> and xgl yadda yadda
[01:56] <scenestar> bliss1_ why?
[01:57] <thatGuy_> so xgl effects it?
[01:57] <scenestar> thatGuy_  depends
[01:57] <thatGuy_> settign that up, will it help it or prolly create a problem?
[01:57] <thatGuy_> ci did want to do that eventually also
[01:57] <scenestar> it will not make it easies
[01:58] <NickGarvey> how would I log someone out over an SSH session?
[01:58] <scenestar> NickGarvey : logout?
[01:58] <bliss1_> scenestar: http://pastebin.ca/50914
[01:59] <scenestar> just a seconf
[01:59] <scenestar> my dns is trippin
[01:59] <iwalker> "Never fear, I is here"
[01:59] <NickGarvey> scenestar: yeah, I want to log in over vnc but it flips out because I am on screen 0 also
[02:00] <scenestar> errrrr
[02:00] <scenestar> i dont get it
[02:00] <scenestar> how can you be logged in to an xserver over ssh?
[02:00] <NickGarvey> there is a user on, that I want to log out
[02:00] <scenestar> sudo killall gdm
[02:00] <scenestar> over ssh
[02:00] <NickGarvey> no, I have ssh connection, I want to log on over vnc, but I can't because I am logged on the local machine also
[02:00] <NickGarvey> ah ha genius
[02:00] <NickGarvey> thank you
[02:00] <Sionide> scenestar, using -XC you can run X stuff over ssh:) i do it all the time, the server needs to be properly configged
[02:01] <scenestar> Sionide you mean have it use the local xserver?
[02:01] <Sionide> yeah i dunno how it works, but it's cool
[02:01] <scenestar> i dunno
[02:01] <scenestar> dont really use it
[02:01] <scenestar> i have synergy
[02:02] <scenestar> but i prefer ssh
[02:02] <Sionide> i can run bluefish from my web server, which is nice
[02:02] <scenestar> use VI
[02:02] <scenestar> like a real man
[02:02] <Sionide> pfft, no i dun like VI much
[02:02] <scenestar> it has a steep learning curve
[02:03] <bliss1_> scenestar: your busy right now but the pastebin is a few screens up
[02:03] <idefix_> with a bash-script I want the seventeenth argument with "$17" but it gives me not the 17th argument but argument 1 followed with a 7, how do I fix this? $(17) doesn't work
[02:03] <scenestar> yeah, ever since i got this new cable modem i have a hard time resolving dns
[02:03] <_jason> idefix_: ${17}
[02:03] <_jason> i think
[02:03] <ompaul> scenestar, mind if I pm you?
[02:03] <Sir_X> Guys (and girls): what would you suggest: enabling catch-all at my ISP and have the mail sorted out locally or creating a popbox for each user at my ISP pull it directly through fetchmail and postfix to the correct user
[02:04] <scenestar> ompaul cool
[02:05] <PaoloC> Hi all, I'm on dapper. Does anybody have a list of application that are strongly suggested on a desktop?
[02:06] <ompaul> PaoloC, hiya channel #buntu+1 for that one :-)
[02:06] <scenestar> beep media player, amsn
[02:06] <scenestar> yeah
[02:06] <ompaul> PaoloC, is there a #ubuntu+1 even :-)
[02:07] <scenestar> dapper is pretty hot
[02:07] <nick_> only problem is, when I started it ip again the user auto logged in
[02:07] <nick_> so I need to log him out not kill x
[02:07] <nick_> is there just a command that would do it?
[02:08] <scenestar> nick_ good one, let me get my big ole book on unix
[02:08] <AngryElf> nick_,  you need to stop auto-login?
[02:09] <sufa> hey, where can i add deb sources, not through synaptic
[02:09] <AngryElf> sufa, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <sufa> i want to add multiverse so i can apt-get mplayer
[02:09] <scenestar> nick_ open a terminal
[02:09] <scenestar> do su
[02:09] <scenestar> and make it say
[02:09] <scenestar> logout
[02:10] <nick_> "Not a login shell"
[02:10] <scenestar> then do ctrl shift f1
[02:10] <scenestar> login as that user
[02:10] <scenestar> and that would be retarded
[02:10] <scenestar> nvm
[02:10] <nick_> remote machine
[02:10] <nick_> I need to kick him over ssh
[02:11] <sufa> thank you AngryElf
[02:11] <bliss1_> ompaul: did you see the patebin
[02:11] <scenestar> bliss1_ nothing wrong with that
[02:11] <ompaul> bliss1_, when did you send it?
[02:12] <bliss1_> scenestar: ok but then you did get my pm or not
[02:12] <ompaul> scenestar, is it possible to look at your ubotu pms :-) the list is full
[02:13] <scenestar> bliss1_ : negative
[02:13] <nick_> logout username doesn't work..
[02:13] <ompaul> bliss_ you need to register with nickserv
[02:13] <ompaul> !register
[02:13] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:13] <ompaul> bliss1_,  ^^^
[02:13] <bliss1_> scenestar: ok I think ompaul has the soultion
[02:14] <scenestar> hmm ok
[02:14] <scenestar> im kinda busy atm, i need to see which router to buy today
[02:14] <graveson1> can someone please recommend a good torrent client for ubuntu
[02:15] <scenestar> ktorrent
[02:15] <bliss1_> scenestar; i want to free as much RAM as possible i am going to make a swap partition then run qemu with kqemu emlators
[02:15] <bliss1_> emulators
[02:15] <scenestar> and not have it max out 100 percent cpu?
[02:16] <bliss1_> yes
[02:16] <apokryphos> ubotu: torrent clients is <reply> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)
[02:16] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[02:16] <scenestar> ah cool, ive been working on a load balancing system for quemu
[02:16] <scenestar> is this for a production server or just home?
[02:16] <bliss1_> scenestar; can you pastebin it please
[02:17] <scenestar> sorry, no
[02:17] <scenestar> its a big project for a foundation
[02:17] <bliss1_> scenestar; home, no is it private
[02:17] <bliss1_> i will sign the offical secrets acy!
[02:17] <bliss1_> act
[02:17] <scenestar> well really, why exactly do you need it for
[02:18] <bliss1_> scenestar; its for a project i am doing for my MSc
[02:18] <scenestar> isnt a chroot or jail sufficient?
[02:19] <scenestar> i only use vms for VPS systems or database servers
[02:19] <Sir_X> graveson1 what's wrong with the bittorrent client that's included?
[02:20] <bliss1_> vms is fine
[02:20] <bliss1_> i will run it out of sarge on a no X box
[02:21] <nick_> bah I can't get it
[02:21] <nick_> seems so simple..
[02:21] <graveson1> Sir_X: i am looking for one that has commmand line functions as well
[02:22] <scenestar> ah
[02:22] <idefix_> test
[02:22] <scenestar> in that case you want bittornado
[02:22] <nick_> btdownloadheadless :)
[02:22] <scenestar> or that other that was ncurses based, i cant remember the name though
[02:23] <donza> btdownloadcurses & btlaunchmanycurses
[02:24] <nick_> I think..  Since ubuntu uses sudo and cups requires the username and password of root, what do i enter in cups?
[02:26] <dtamas> I have installed dapper on my laptop, but the wifi doesn't work. Can anybody help me?
[02:26] <donza> graveson1: no problem
[02:26] <Emess> ok this is wierd, im isntalling ubuntu and when i get to the partitioning part it jsut repepatedly says 'Killed' and jsut keeps on repeating...
[02:26] <Emess> from the forums it seems to be a problem on computers with 64mb rasm...which is what this box has :(
[02:26] <sybariten> if anyone has good experience with drive-juggling between different servers, attaching cables like a maniac, mounting up, mounting down, adding space like a real freak, well then please take a look at my post at the forums:
[02:26] <sybariten> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164915
[02:26] <sybariten> my problem is that i cant access a drive that was originally a system drive in an iMac (running linux)
[02:27] <Ap4ch3> sybariten is it using hpfs+?
[02:27] <nick_> I win
[02:27] <sybariten> Ap4ch3: thats a good question. What is it ?
[02:27] <sybariten> Ap4ch3: it is ext2 btw, as far as i know
[02:27] <Ap4ch3> its the default filesystem  type for osx
[02:28] <sybariten> Ap4ch3: running linux
[02:28] <PaoloC> does anybody know how to play video from www.repubblica.it?
[02:28] <ompaul> Emess, that is so small I don't think you will get much use out of that install, that is a very low spec machine I would suggest that you use DSL (damn small linux) or install server first and see if you can get xubuntu-desktop working on it - its really low on resources
[02:28] <lflashl> HOW DO I MOUNT MY FLASH DRIVE
[02:29] <pierre-> lflashl: just plug it in
[02:29] <zyth> Is a g3/400mhz powerbook with 384 mb ram worth running ubuntu on?
[02:29] <lflashl> yea and then what?
[02:29] <pierre-> lflashl: then wait and that's all
[02:29] <Codename_V> zyth: depends on what you want to do with it
[02:30] <lflashl> call thanks
[02:30] <zyth> Codename_V, same stuff I'm doing in OS X.  irc, email, web, some older gaming (diablo, diablo 2, warcraft 2, obviously in Linux it'd be different games)
[02:30] <lflashl> can i install ubuntu on my 512MB flash drive?
[02:31] <Codename_V> zyth: should work alright.  if it works at all.  linux can be problematic on some macs.
[02:31] <lflashl> juat wnt ut as a network o/s with no X install
[02:31] <zyth> Codename_V, the livecd booted 100% fine and detected all my stuff.. it was just kludgy, but I only have a 2x dvd drive
[02:31] <pip> hello,everyone
[02:31] <Emess> ompaul: its a good system, jsut low on ram. it wont run DSL (monitor rejects the resolution it uses) but its failing on partitioning, not the actual OS
[02:32] <pip> can I compile C# souce file on ubuntu ?
[02:33] <slackern> !b-e
[02:33] <Codename_V> pip: sure
[02:33] <ubotu> somebody said b-e was no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[02:33] <Emess> i guess il see if it can run vector....
[02:33] <pip> Codename_V, Thank you! I love ubuntu more and more,so can you tell me how to do it ?
[02:34] <Codename_V> pip: get mono and compile your junk.  it's pretty simple.  course if it uses windows forms or whatever it probably won't work too well.  a simple console app would be no problem.
[02:34] <ompaul> Emess, for dsl start the boot with vga=771
[02:34] <Codename_V> and that .net web stuff, I really couldn't say where that's at.
[02:35] <PwcrLinux> oops, wrong parted chan..
[02:35] <Emess> ok, DSL works now, but that doesnt really get me anywhere with ubuntu
[02:36] <ompaul> Emess, how big is the drive?
[02:36] <pip> Codename_V, you mean it doesnot support C# well enough,right?
[02:36] <Emess> 10GB
[02:37] <bina> i am unable to boot my Xp from GRUB
[02:37] <Codename_V> pip: nope.  c# in its entirety is certainly supported
[02:37] <bina> even Xp alone
[02:37] <ubuntu> hello
[02:37] <ompaul> Emess, whats on it?
[02:37] <Codename_V> pip: it's just the .net libraries that would perhaps be missing.
[02:37] <Emess> 2GB of windows stuff
[02:37] <Codename_V> pip: in particular the one for doing windows guis is rather lacking from what I hear.
[02:37] <bina> any one free to help me here?
[02:38] <Codename_V> bina: what's it tell ya?
[02:38] <zyth> bina, XP doesn't like not being on the first partition, as I recall.
[02:38] <ompaul> Emess, partition wise what do you want to do with it
[02:38] <[hicken> hello, is this chat channel friendly to niggers such as myself?  I see,then how do you find pnet?
[02:38] <ubuntu> Somebody Speak spanish?
[02:38] <bina> i hav three hdd
[02:39] <Codename_V> pip: come again?  find pnet?
[02:39] <[hicken> hello, is this channel a member of the nigger friendly chat channel commission?
[02:39] <bina> i just changed some grub xp settings
[02:39] <[hicken> hello, is this channel a member of the nigger friendly chat channel commission?
[02:39] <[hicken> hello, is this chat channel friendly to niggers such as myself?
[02:39] <Codename_V> yikes.
[02:39] <bina> from that time i am unable to boot it directly from BIOS too
[02:39] <bina> before that i can boot my Xp from BIOS
[02:40] <pip> Codename_V, dont you know pnet,another project which is like mono project?
[02:40] <Codename_V> pip: nah, sorry.  never heard of it.
[02:40] <Emess> ompaul: its empty now, 9.6GB ext3 and 512MB of swap
[02:41] <pip> Codename_V, Thank you !
[02:41] <bina> Codeman: do u have any idea???
[02:41] <ompaul> Emess, so try to do a server install from the off
[02:42] <bigfoot1> i get a "Starting PCMCIA devices          Failed" . I don't have any. so how can i turn this off?
[02:42] <Codename_V> bina: spose if you gave me a look at your grub config file that might help.  but just to head it off at that pass, don't paste it here.
[02:42] <Emess> ompaul: server misntall? off?
[02:42] <LadyNikon> Why hasn't [hicken been banned yet?
[02:42] <idefix_> how do you block out lines in bash-shell?
[02:42] <Warbo> bigfoot1: You could try using BUM (Boot Up Manager) but it crashes on me for some reason
[02:43] <LadyNikon> oh nevermind he cant speak anymore yay
[02:43] <Codename_V> bina: but then it would probably be kinda helpful if you'd go ahead and answer my original question, namely what's it say when you try and boot windows?
[02:43] <ompaul> Emess, as the machine boots, it pauses, type server and work away from there
[02:43] <Emess> ah, ok il try that
[02:43] <Codename_V> bina: but heck, not having windows isn't so bad.  least you can surf the web still, play some poker, read your email, etc.
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> bigfoot1: sudo update-rc.d -f pcmcia stop
[02:43] <Codename_V> don't even run windows myself.
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> bigfoot1: sorry, stop should be remove
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> bigfoot1: sudo update-rc.d -f pcmcia remove :)
[02:45] <Sonderblade> is there a way with ubuntu to return a computer to a "pristine state"? i want to clear a box so that everything on it is exactly like it was after i installed ubuntu server on it
[02:45] <Akaishi> are the universe and multiverse repos down?
[02:46] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: formate/reinstall?
[02:47] <Sonderblade> Frogzoo:  yeah, except that i don't wanna do a whole reinstallation. I need to be able to do this over ssh
[02:47] <sufa> anyone ever have problems with vlc like being very jumpy when playing a dvd?
[02:47] <Emess> ompaul: now its giving a segmentation fault on teh drive at partition stage
[02:47] <orbin> sufa: enabled dma?
[02:48] <Warbo> sufa: Only on a slow laptop
[02:48] <joelbryan> hello, does mpg and mp3 works in fresh install dapper?
[02:48] <fyrestrtr> joelbryan: no
[02:48] <fyrestrtr> !mp3
[02:48] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:48] <Warbo> joelbryan: Not in fresh install, but it is easy to enable
[02:48] <ompaul> Emess, while the machine your on is way below spec - I would now suspect the media more than anything
[02:48] <sufa> orbin,  how do i enable dma
[02:48] <joelbryan> ok thanks
[02:48] <Frogzoo> sufa: DMA enabled?
[02:48] <orbin> ubotu: tell sufa about dma
[02:49] <sufa> Warbo,  mplayer plays it fine but it cant see my sound device
[02:49] <Frogzoo> !dma
[02:49] <Frogzoo> !tell sufa about dma
[02:49] <Emess> il try a reburn then...
[02:49] <joelbryan> what are other file format that is not supported in dapper? (and can be installed in synaptics)
[02:49] <joelbryan> !mpg
[02:49] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, joelbryan
[02:49] <sufa> thanks guys
[02:49] <Warbo> sufa: If your PC is up to spec then I think it is the vlc engine. Try going through the preferences and seeing if you can "turn down" anything
[02:50] <fyrestrtr> !tell joelbryan about RestrictedFormats
[02:50] <joelbryan> wow thanks!
[02:50] <Akaishi> I tend to have better luck with dvd using xine
[02:50] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: if you had multiple disks, you could boot a backup os, & dump the disk image back in place with dd - though you'd need to do a fresh install to make the image of course
[02:51] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: actually, just one disk needed, just multiple bootable partitions
[02:51] <Warbo> I use a "proper" dvd palyer or a ps2, if I use a PC then I like Ogle because it is simple and supports menus well
[02:51] <spikeb> speaking of vlc, it'd be nice if there was a safari plugin
[02:52] <Akaishi> are universe/multiverse down or is my install getting ready to die on me?
[02:52] <Emess> ompaul: thanks, i think iv found the problem, it was burned at 16x the first time insteadc of 4x, il see how it goes after reburning
[02:52] <ompaul> Emess, good luck
[02:53] <sufa> wow, that worked beautifully :-) thanks guys
[02:54] <Sonderblade> Frogzoo:  why can't i just sudo apt-get make-it-clean-and-good? much easier
[02:55] <joelbryan> !mpg
[02:55] <ubotu> joelbryan: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:55] <Warbo> Sonderblade: You could sudo apt-get install your-custom-fresh-install-package which conflicts with everything not in a fresh install but depends on everything that is in the installer. I don't know much about making custom deb packages though
[02:55] <freezey> hey guys whats a good FTP service for linux
[02:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell joelbryan about multimedia
[02:55] <kingspawn> freezey: Like a daemon? ProFTPD is nice.
[02:56] <idefix_> what is [hicken] ? a racist?
[02:56] <Warbo> idefix_: I asuume so
[02:56] <Sonderblade> Warbo: to complicated
[02:56] <freezey> kingspawn: is it good for like setting up outside accounts and allowing them to login and retrieve certain files and what not
[02:56] <Warbo> Sonderblade: Exactly, just fresh install it.
[02:56] <kingspawn> freezey: Well, every ftp daemon does that, but yes, it's pretty easy to get the hang of
[02:56] <freezey> kingspawn: ok thanks king
[02:57] <freezey> kingspawn: is it in synaptic?
[02:57] <orbin> idefix_: what'd he/she do?
[02:57] <kingspawn> freezey: Should be
[02:57] <Warbo> Sonderblade: Sysnaptic can save a package setup, so if you did that after install you could reload it and apply. I've never used that feature though
[02:58] <Sonderblade> Warbo: will that delete stuff like additional home directories etc?
[02:58] <kameleons> hello what is comand unistall  mplayer?
[02:59] <Warbo> Sonderblade: No, just stuff from packages
[02:59] <Warbo> kameleons: sudo apt-get uninstall mplayer
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> kameleons: sudo apt-get remove mplayer
[02:59] <_jason> kameleons: you can use synaptic and remove it, it should be mplayer-<arch>
[02:59] <Sonderblade> Warbo: then its no good
[02:59] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: REMOVE! What was I thinking?
[02:59] <Warbo> Anyway, got to go now. Bye
[03:01] <AnsiC> hello
[03:01] <MrMist> Hi all
[03:01] <MrMist> hmm... I've got a small question...
[03:02] <apokryphos> MrMist: shoot
[03:02] <MrMist> Why can't people get MySQL 5.0 from the apt-get system ?
[03:02] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: what you don't realise is that apt does more than just sparf packages to disk - it also tweaks config files & symlinks. It gets pretty complicated testing to make sure upgrades work, to get downgrades to work would be a lot of effort for no good reason. Also, apt has no knowledge of files installed without its knowledge, so things like home directories are right out
[03:03] <kingspawn> Anyone know of a good stream ripper?
[03:03] <Frogzoo> MrMist: so do most people in chan, but they advertise it by saying what their problem is
[03:04] <MrMist> The question came... gotta look a bit closer
[03:04] <Eppu> kingspawn: mplayer? It can "rip" anything it can play
[03:04] <kingspawn> Eppu: Might be worth a look into, thanks.
[03:04] <Frogzoo> kingspawn: probly vlc is what you need
[03:05] <freezey> kingspawn: hhmm doesn't show up synaptic
[03:05] <kingspawn> Frogzoo: Thinking about ripping some good stuff off of www.di.fm
[03:05] <kingspawn> Maybe I wasn't exactly making myself clear
[03:06] <axisme> mrmist
[03:06] <axisme> client or server?
[03:07] <AnsiC> apt-get install toolchain-source
[03:07] <AnsiC> tpkg-install i*86-linux OR tpkg-install i686-linux ??
[03:07] <AnsiC> i must write * or i must substitute * whit the value
[03:07] <AnsiC> ???
[03:07] <axisme> if server sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[03:07] <MrMist> axisme: huh !? There's no mysql-server-5.0 package ?
[03:07] <axisme> if client sudo apt-get install mysql-client-5.0
[03:08] <kingspawn> AnsiC: You should be able to use *
[03:08] <axisme> oh im using dapper drake
[03:08] <MrMist> perhaps you're using Dapper... I'm still on breezy
[03:08] <ompaul> !dapper
[03:08] <axisme> dunno if its in breezy
[03:08] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[03:08] <axisme> have a search for it in synaptic
[03:08] <freezey> isn't dapper drake already releaser
[03:08] <freezey> released
[03:08] <ompaul> axisme, >>cat /etc/issue<< that will tell you
[03:08] <ompaul> freezey, no its not
[03:08] <freezey> they are comin out with a newer version than that
[03:08] <freezey> ompaul: yeah it is its
[03:08] <AnsiC> of course i can use *
[03:08] <AnsiC> but what is correct ?
[03:08] <freezey> ompaul: my friend is running on it already
[03:09] <AnsiC> tpkg create a package whit the targat append
[03:09] <freezey> ompaul: ubuntu's designers are releasing a newer version than that
[03:09] <AnsiC> but is important what i append
[03:09] <MrMist> took about 30 minutes to compiles MySQL5
[03:09] <ompaul> freezey, okay let me put it this way, its in beta and anyone on the planet can use it
[03:09] <_jason> freezey: official release hasn't been made, that's June 1st.  You can always run the devel version
[03:09] <sybariten> why is it that sudo apt-cache search midnight doesnt show midnight commander ?
[03:09] <freezey> ompaul: that comes with a whole lot more things... XGL will be included
[03:09] <AnsiC> becouse the script that i applies to this paackages after
[03:09] <AnsiC> use it
[03:09] <ompaul> freezey, that will be the octobet release
[03:09] <AnsiC> is a toolchain
[03:09] <sybariten> do i need to change the sources list from a fresh ubuntu server install ?
[03:09] <axisme> dunno what to say mrmist, its in dapper drake :-)
[03:10] <_jason> !info mc
[03:10] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[03:10] <AnsiC> if i use 686 after the package is named
[03:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell sybariten about universe
[03:10] <AnsiC> fooi686-i386
[03:10] <dwa> ok, dumb question: i need to enter some exotic commands for ndiswrapper at boot time, where do i put those so they execute automatically every time?
[03:10] <sybariten> _jason: thank you
[03:10] <_jason> sybariten: erm, do you have X?
[03:10] <AnsiC> and that is strange
[03:10] <sybariten> _jason: no, why ?
[03:10] <dwa> they require sudo
[03:11] <_jason> sybariten: well, can you read the link ubotu provided ok?
[03:12] <sybariten> _jason: hey i've got computers high and low. I'm doing IRC from an XP computer for instance, so thats not a problem
[03:12] <_jason> sybariten: ok good, in case the wiki doesn't discuss how to do it with synaptic, just read the comments in /etc/apt/sources.list or you can just use the official sources ubotu provided for breezy (those give you multiverse which the comments don't include afaik)
[03:13] <_jason> s/with synaptic/without synaptic
[03:13] <freezey> with proftpd should i get using SRPMS or RPMS
[03:15] <sybariten> _jason: ok thanks! (repositories issues are so damn confusing ... why not just add as many servers as possible from the beginning?)
[03:15] <orbin> recommendations for text-mode web browsers?
[03:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell sybariten about components
[03:16] <Frogzoo> opening links appearing in irssi with firefox, can it be done?
[03:16] <_jason> Frogzoo: happens when I use gnome-terminal, I didn't change anything
[03:16] <kingspawn> sybariten: Hey, you got that disk working?
[03:16] <sybariten> kingspawn: nope :)
[03:17] <sybariten> kingspawn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164915&highlight=ibm
[03:17] <jsmidt> Does anybody know when the 2.17 Kernal is supposed to be released?
[03:18] <paperinopaperoga> ciao
[03:18] <ompaul> !it
[03:18] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:18] <kingspawn> sybariten: Strange indeed. Have you tried gparted on it?
[03:18] <paperinopaperoga> grazie per l'indicazione
[03:19] <sybariten> kingspawn: no, i was advised to run parted to check the partition table, and also to do that with a working added 4gb slave drive, to compare how the partition tables look .... but after doing backiup of the big drive
[03:19] <sybariten> which is a big project of its own ofcourse
[03:19] <Edhunter> anyone with a D-Link G630 Wireless Network card?
[03:20] <kingspawn> sybariten: Heh, yeah
[03:20] <bliss1_> ompaul: do you think a xen install on sarge could be addopted to ubuntu
[03:20] <axisme> whats the problem, edhunter?
[03:20] <axisme> it shoudl work out of the box heh
[03:21] <Edhunter> i cant get it to work, i don't know how to install the drivers
[03:21] <flashman> Hello!
[03:21] <jsmidt> sorry I ment the 2.6.17 kernal release
[03:22] <axisme> you using breezy or dapper drake?
[03:22] <Edhunter> i've searched Madwifi and since i got the E version of the card i had to go to some other page to download a RT61 driver
[03:22] <Edhunter> that doesn't have any manual (yes i'm a noob ;) )
[03:23] <cratuki> I've just tried to eject a CDROM, and the process has hung and won't respond to kill signals.
[03:23] <kingspawn> cratuki: tried kill -9?
[03:23] <cratuki> Is there a way to enforce the kill, or to restart the bit of the kernel that controls that sort of thing?
[03:23] <cratuki> kingspawn: yes
[03:24] <axisme> edhunter
[03:24] <axisme> looks at your private messages
[03:24] <kingspawn> cratuki: Hm, strange
[03:24] <orbin> cratel1: sudo eject
[03:24] <cratuki> In my syslog it says stuff like "atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)."
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> what kind of keyboard is it?
[03:25] <cratuki> orbin: I think if I do that then I'll have another hung process, this time as root.
[03:25] <cratuki> I don't think it's normal for a process to freeze and don't want to pick at it.
[03:25] <cratuki> Would rather .. find a way to fix it.
[03:26] <Frogzoo> cratuki: did you know there's a cdrom kernel module? you could try rmmod, modprobe  (& x your fingers)
[03:26] <joelbryan> !rm
[03:26] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, joelbryan
[03:26] <joelbryan> !ram
[03:26] <ubotu> joelbryan: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:27] <bliss1_> anybody taken a look at the 6.0.6 server
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> !tell joelbryan about realplayer
[03:27] <kingspawn> How does one go about mounting .bin and .cue?
[03:27] <Edhunter> axisme, does it work with pm?
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> kingspawn: using the mount command :)
[03:28] <Edhunter> i've sent some messages but don't know if they arrived?
[03:28] <kingspawn> fyrestrtr: ;) A little help on the syntax would be much appreciated, the iso9660 isn't doing me good
[03:28] <kingspawn> (since its not an iso...)
[03:28] <orbin> cratuki: how/why did you try and eject it in the first place?
[03:28] <Emess> ompaul: nope, when i do normal install it jsut repeats "killed" ans when i  do server it says "segmentation fault" i guess therses jsut not enough ram, it cant partition the drive
[03:29] <ompaul> Emess, dsl ? ;-)
[03:29] <Edhunter> "/msg ubotu
[03:29] <beerockxs> .
[03:29] <Emess> not going with DSL, i think it's gonna be vector or slack on this one
[03:29] <sybariten> anybody care to take a scientific approach at my repositories problems? heres a paste : http://pastebin.ca/raw/50927
[03:29] <sybariten> i am going crazy
[03:30] <cratuki> orbin: To see if it would.Basically I've had lots of problems with these CDROMs not playing nice with the system and this is the latest part of the problem.
[03:30] <kingspawn> fyrestrtr: It seems you cant mount a .bin without converting it to iso
[03:30] <Edhunter> axisme???
[03:30] <axisme> sorry on phone
[03:30] <axisme> one sec
[03:30] <orbin> cratuki: how did you try and eject it?
[03:30] <Emess> but i can see why my first disk didnt work, its got a completely see-thru chunk on it...
[03:30] <Edhunter> aha:) no problem;)
[03:31] <cratuki> orbin: 'eject /dev/hdb' which is the device for the cdrom.
[03:31] <sybariten> or, let me put it like this; anyone here running ubuntu server from the "red" disc and care to post their sources.list that is working ?
[03:32] <cratuki> orbin: hmm. I also have a stale mount command which I kicked off before the eject.
[03:32] <cratuki> mount /dev/hdb
[03:32] <orbin> cratuki: are you running gnome?
[03:32] <pricechild> hey all, could anyone help me with installing a new network card?
[03:32] <cratuki> orbin: yes
[03:33] <orbin> cratuki: the best way to eject media is to right-click on the dekstop icon and select unmount
[03:33] <pricechild> i don't think my ralink rt2500 type card was installed automatically this time round
[03:33] <orbin> cratuki: the disc should then be unmounted and ejected automaticaly
[03:33] <kingspawn> fyrestrtr: If you are interested, it can be done with a program called binchunker
[03:33] <cratuki> orbin: this is a blank CD so doesn't have an icon. it didn't automount.
[03:33] <Frogzoo> pricechild: have you checked the nic has a linux driver?
[03:33] <sybariten> pricechild: not unless you live in norrkoping, sweden .... AAAHAHAHA sorry, i had to
[03:33] <pricechild> last time i installed breezy, it was picked up perfectly
[03:33] <orbin> cratuki: oh
[03:33] <pricechild> i didn't need to do anything about it
[03:33] <pricechild> it just worked
[03:33] <cratuki> orbin: the 'mount' was actualyl eperimental because I wanted to see if it would respond - I've been unable to get my cd burning program to talk to the cd correctly.
[03:34] <pricechild> i've tried replacing the card with one i KNOW works in winxp on another machine
[03:34] <cratuki> I recon I've had success on this system with cdrecord in the past houg.
[03:34] <Frogzoo> pricechild: so now edit /etc/network/interfaces & add and entry for eth#
[03:34] <pricechild> ok... what do i put?
[03:34] <pricechild> can i call it ra0 as that's what it was last time and i was used to it :)
[03:34] <Frogzoo> pricechild: largely you just copy what's already there for eth0 if it's just a question of changing ips/netmasks
[03:35] <pricechild> ah ok
[03:35] <mthizozo> i cant play my dvd movies plz can anyone help me.
[03:35] <pricechild> it's a wireless card... it'll just work if i copy it?
[03:35] <pricechild> mthiziozo you need to install media codecs
[03:36] <pricechild> so i just copy this:
[03:36] <pricechild> iface eth0 inet static
[03:36] <pricechild> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:36] <pricechild> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:36] <pricechild> auto eth0
[03:36] <_jason> !dvd
[03:36] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[03:36] <axisme> sorry back
[03:36] <pricechild> and make it all ra0 instead?
[03:36] <axisme> customers ya kno ;-)
[03:36] <Frogzoo> pricechild: if it's wireless, you'll also need to set essid, & the if name's most likely what it was, ra0
[03:36] <axisme> edhunter
[03:36] <axisme> you should see a little window
[03:36] <axisme> with my name on it, at the bottom of your screen
[03:36] <axisme> type in there
[03:37] <pricechild> so how do i set up the essid :)
[03:37] <Frogzoo> pricechild: 1st try just 'sudo ifconfig ra0 up'  & then ifconfig should show the if name
[03:37] <Edhunter> can u see my msg s?
[03:37] <Frogzoo> Edhunter: not a thing
[03:37] <pricechild> ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:37] <axisme> no but you arent registered, most likely
[03:37] <axisme> ok anyway
[03:37] <Edhunter> no i'm not:S
[03:38] <Frogzoo> pricechild: check dmesg to see if the kernel found anything
[03:38] <axisme> open a terminal
[03:38] <pricechild> any chance of you quiding me to dmesg :)
[03:38] <Edhunter> i have to be registerd to make private msgs?
[03:38] <Edhunter> ok, done
[03:38] <axisme> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:38] <Frogzoo> !tell pricechild about wifi
[03:38] <axisme> scroll down till you find a line starting with  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-
[03:39] <axisme> or whatever kernel your using
[03:39] <sboo> Who can I play the music viedo
[03:39] <Edhunter> # kernel        /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
[03:39] <Edhunter> ?
[03:40] <Edhunter> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386
[03:40] <axisme> any other stuff at the end?
[03:40] <Edhunter>  root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:41] <axisme> okies
[03:41] <axisme> paste me the whole line
[03:41] <Edhunter> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:41] <axisme> anything else after splash?
[03:42] <Edhunter> nope, not on the same line
[03:42] <axisme> ok make the terminal fill the screen
[03:42] <Jowi> hi all, network probs on one of my friends laptop. it only get an inet6 address. what can be done to fix that?
[03:42] <axisme> then tell me if there is anything else
[03:42] <Edhunter> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:42] <Edhunter> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-386
[03:42] <pricechild> Ok none of that has helped me
[03:42] <pricechild> ubuntu just doesn't recognise that my card is plugged in anymore
[03:42] <axisme> ok...we can try...should be slightly different
[03:42] <pricechild> i've tried moving it to different pci slots
[03:43] <pricechild> and using a different card
[03:43] <axisme> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash pci=assign-busses
[03:43] <axisme> replace with that