[16:22] <B0bsF1sh> But now I have a followup question :)   I login to the text console. Then I decide I want to do something in the GUI. So I run "startx." That works. Now I want to exit the GUI and go back to the text console. How do I do that?
[16:22] <Anuska> OerHeks, ? :))
[16:22] <ianorlin> because /home is under root
[16:23] <eeee> B0bsF1sh: don't use startx, use sudo service lightdm start
[16:24] <eeee> B0bsF1sh: then sudo service lightdm stop , to exit
[16:24] <OerHeks> Anuska, there is no limit
[16:24] <jephree> does anyone know how the "Enable by Keyboard" feature works in the Typing tab of the Universal Access settings? I'm running 13.10
[16:25] <goose_> Hey guys
[16:25] <Anuska> OerHeks,  but... how i put that in center... becouse my image is 5000px / 4000px
[16:25] <Anuska> and not show correctly in terminal..
[16:25] <goose_> Sooooo, anyone wanna help me out?
[16:25] <silverwing> ianorlin: if you specify the mountpoint of the ssd after fstrim (fstrim -v [mountpoint] then it will only trim the SSD)
[16:27] <OerHeks> Anuska, i cannot find an option for that
[16:29] <goose_> What is the easiest way to  boot Ubuntu 14.04 from a USB on W8?
[16:29] <eeee> goose_: install lili ( linux live ), and make a live usb.
[16:30] <goose_> Thanks man!
[16:30] <eeee> no problem
[16:31] <spawndemonic> hello
[16:31] <Anuska> OerHeks, i create 800x600
[16:31] <Anuska> but if i resize the terminal not show correctly or dublicate
[16:32] <Surendil> Anuska: what's the problem?
[16:33] <Anuska> Hi Surendil, i liked the sound.
[16:33] <Anuska> good job :*
[16:33] <vibedigital1> Hi my frieds
[16:33] <JCT> how do i always establish myself as a root user?
[16:33] <Surendil> hahaha, thanks Anuska, hi again
[16:34] <spawndemonic> sudo bash
[16:34] <JCT> i hat using terminals for root things
[16:34] <vibedigital1> i just deleted init.d (i know)
[16:34] <Surendil> JCT: sudo -i
[16:34] <Anuska> Surendil, i want to personalize my terminal ( i add a background ) with image png 800x600... but if i resize the terminal the image from background not resizez... or dublicated
[16:34] <JCT> oh it's that easy?
[16:34] <spawndemonic> yup
[16:34] <vibedigital1> but i recover the files adding it in a new init.d
[16:34] <JCT> cool. thanks
[16:34] <vibedigital1> but i think i'm locked out server now
[16:35] <vibedigital1> services dont seem to start
[16:35] <vibedigital1> even ssh
[16:35] <Surendil> Anuska: which terminal? I recommend Terminator, works grat
[16:35] <Surendil> great
[16:35] <vibedigital1> the server is a dedicated dedibox on online.net
[16:35] <Anuska> Terminal from ubuntu
[16:36] <vibedigital1> i enter in rescue mode now
[16:36] <vibedigital1> by ssh
[16:36] <JCT> so now i just established myself as always root user even when i restart the computer?
[16:36] <eeee> JCT: no, and you shouldn't.
[16:37] <spawndemonic> no you have to make yourself root upon reboot
[16:37] <JCT> ok, why can't i always root?}
[16:37] <eeee> JCT: it's not recommended, it's a security risk.
[16:37] <JCT> oh. ok
[16:37] <mst0> Wie kann ich SLI unter Ubuntu aktivieren?
[16:37] <JCT> thanks tho
[16:37] <Surendil> Anuska: http://i.imgur.com/7Ovmvil.png
[16:37] <JCT> bye now
[16:38] <drmagoo> de! | mst0
[16:38] <bekks> !de | mst0
[16:38] <Anuska> is terminator? Surendil
[16:38] <mst0> sorry, thought i was in the de channel
[16:39] <Surendil> Anuska: that's right
[16:39] <Surendil> on xubuntu
[16:39] <Anuska> let me try
[16:39] <B0bsF1sh> eeee: When I do sudoe service lightdm stop (and also if I do a logoff from the gear menu) I get a scrambled-looking nearly all-gray screen with some dotted red vertical marks at the top. no more terminal
[16:40] <Surendil> B0bsF1sh: lightdm is your X, you can't run graphic environment without it
[16:40] <Anuska> Surendil, is the same! if i resize the window... dublicate mny the image
[16:40] <Surendil> Anuska: http://i.imgur.com/gdGr1fL.png
[16:41] <mst0> How to enable SLI in ubuntu?
[16:41] <Surendil> Anuska: gnome, right?
[16:41] <B0bsF1sh> http://imgur.com/zMAI0Tt
[16:41] <Anuska> Surendil, you use terminal full size?
[16:41] <B0bsF1sh> Surendil: I want to exit the graphical environment and get just a text console
[16:42] <Surendil> yeap, 2 workspaces, one for firefox and stuff, the other for terminator
[16:42] <Anuska> aham
[16:42] <drmagoo> mst0: I dont think that the drivers from nvidia support it yet, but I might be wrong.
[16:42] <silverwing> B0bsF1sh: try Ctrl+Alt+F1
[16:42] <B0bsF1sh> silverwing: tried that - it does nothing
[16:42] <Surendil> B0bsF1sh: init 3
[16:43] <zhongfu> mst0: might want to check this out https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/698091/ubuntu-12-04-sli-/
[16:43] <mst0> on the nvidia page is written that the linux drivers support 2 grphics cards
[16:43] <B0bsF1sh> The console session appears to be borked. Can't do anything to it. My remote SSH session is working though.
[16:44] <eeee> B0bsF1sh: ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[16:44] <Surendil> Anuska: settings - Windows manager tweaks - Compositor - enable "enable display compositing"
[16:44] <B0bsF1sh> eeee: Yeah that doesn't change anything. it still looks like http://imgur.com/zMAI0Tt
[16:44] <toster> Hey, does anyone know how can I find out where ia32-libs is installed to? A build script I have is not picking them up :<
[16:45] <Surendil> Bob88865: alt + f7 to get back graphics
[16:47] <Anuska> Surendil, in terminator?
[16:47] <Surendil> Anuska: ubuntu
[16:47] <Surendil> you need compiz for that
[16:47] <silverwing> toster: have you tried whereis -f ia32-libs
[16:48] <Anuska> Surendil, settings in what?
[16:48] <toster> oh didn;t know about whereis.. hold on
[16:48] <Surendil> Anuska: settings - Windows manager tweaks - Compositor - enable "enable display compositing"
[16:48] <OerHeks> no need for ia32-libs, as ubuntu is multiarch, just add ~:i386 to the package
[16:50] <toster> Hmm... I'll go try that
[16:51] <toster> Is there a general directory where it keeps the i386 versions of .so files?
[16:52] <Surendil> Anuska: http://i.imgur.com/BfG8xlm.png
[16:53] <Anuska> not have that option
[16:53] <Anuska> what i need to install Surendil ?
[16:54] <Anuska> found
[16:54] <Anuska> let me instal
[16:57] <Peasant65> hi !
[16:57] <michael_j_p> Are there any Castle Wolfenstein like games available
[16:57] <B0bsF1sh> What does everyone think of htop instead of top
[16:57] <Surendil> Anuska: i was search also, install install install
[16:58] <Peasant65> I'm searching for a way to install ubuntu without x or any special programs like abiword, openoffice etc
[16:58] <Surendil> michael_j_p: wolf4sdl
[16:58] <Peasant65> So a very stripped ubuntu with only apt-get
[16:58] <OerHeks> Peasant65, server?
[16:58] <guest-eCiPwC__> o
[16:59] <Peasant65> OerHeks: I think server also includes MYSQL BIND etc ?
[16:59] <geirha> !minimal | Peasant65
[16:59] <OerHeks> Peasant65, no
[16:59] <OerHeks> it is an option*
[16:59] <guest-eCiPwC__> hello ,bonjours ,benos dis
[16:59] <alessio> hi friend
[16:59] <Peasant65> oh oke... the site looks like it's all preinstalled
[16:59] <alessio> there are someone that speak italian?
[17:00] <OerHeks> !it
[17:00] <Peasant65> so server will give me a basic ubuntu without server specific packages ?
[17:00] <paranoid_> alessio io
[17:00] <alessio> grazie paranoid
[17:00] <genii> Peasant65: It asks you which ones at install time then uses tasksel to do the job
[17:00] <paranoid_> ti serve qualcosa?
[17:01] <Peasant65> genii I'll take a look
[17:01] <Peasant65> thx :)
[17:01] <alessio> non so se puoi aiutarmi...ma ho un problema su come mettere la mia mail
[17:01] <Anuska> :( Surendil i install that but not find in system setting
[17:01] <alessio> su mozilla thunderbird
[17:01] <alessio> mi da sempre errore che ho sbagliato la password
[17:01] <alessio> ma è impossibile
[17:01] <OerHeks> paranoid_, alessio take it to #ubuntu-it, english only please
[17:01] <geirha> alessio: Please go to #ubuntu-it if you want to speak italian
[17:01] <paranoid_> ok sorry 0erHeks
[17:01] <alessio> i have found one who speak italian
[17:01] <paranoid_> we'll move
[17:02] <OerHeks> np, have fun :-)
[17:02] <paranoid_> Alessio join #ubuntu-it
[17:02] <skulltip> fyi - chrome 38.0 is running netflix, no user agent switched or anything :)
[17:02] <alessio> paranoid
[17:05] <Surendil> Anuska: i use xfce, named as xfwm4-tweaks-settings
[17:05] <Anuska> gnome
[17:05] <Surendil> i know
[17:06] <Anuska> http://hidetools.com/download.html
[17:06]  * AR45 will now ask a question:
[17:06] <AR45> Is it recommended to download install drivers from the NVIDIA website or should I only stick with the options that pop up in the `Additional Drivers GUI`?
[17:07] <genii> AR45: The Additional Drivers
[17:07] <AR45> genii, then explain why am I seeing tearing.
[17:07] <genii> AR45: Although you may want to add the xorg-edgers PPA
[17:07] <michael_j_p> Wolf4dsl didn't work - any other games similar to that ?
[17:08] <Surendil> Anuska: did you install gnome-tweak-tool?
[17:08] <OerHeks> AR45, maybe that mac is suffering from a bad nvidiachip
[17:08] <Anuska> yes Surendil
[17:08] <AR45> OerHeks, it doesn't tear on Mac.
[17:08] <AR45> MACOS*
[17:09] <genii> AR45: I would try the drivers from xorg-edgers, they usually have those types of fixes already done before it migrates into the main repos
[17:09] <toster> Ah, there they are: /lib/i386-linux-gnu
[17:09] <toster> ty.
[17:10] <genii> AR45: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:10] <haunt_house> is there a reason why ubuntu 14 is deleting my link to an application on the desktop?
[17:11] <AR45> genii, thank you are you running 343?
[17:12] <genii> AR45: My specific card doesn't like 343, I'm using 340
[17:13] <AR45> genii, is it a NVIDIA Corporation MCP89 [GeForce 320M]?
[17:14] <genii> AR45: No, GeForce 9300M GS on my laptop
[17:14] <haunt_house> guess it's back for me to 12
[17:14] <Surendil> Anuska: let's see if this works. http://askubuntu.com/questions/179002/turn-on-window-compositing
[17:15] <Anuska> Surendil, i use classic, but let me try to find
[17:15] <AR45> genii, looks like a really sweet card ;)
[17:18] <Surendil> Anuska: classic or unity, you should have that app
[17:18] <Anuska> :(
[17:18] <Anuska> i run configuration editor
[17:18] <paranoid_> hi
[17:19] <paranoid_> is there anyone who knows something about tortp?
[17:20] <Surendil> Anuska: if the optionn is not there, you don't have compiz installed or maybe a lib is missing
[17:20] <paranoid_> i can't use it on my thetered android wifi
[17:21] <Anuska> how i find lib32asound2 ?
[17:22] <Surendil> Anuska: apt-cache search
[17:22] <vibedigital1> Hi i just deleted my init.d
[17:22] <ircnode0> I have mounted a external hdd, but normal users can't create any file. How I can give normal users permission to create new files? Tried chmod -r 777 on mounted file, but can't create anything.
[17:22] <vibedigital1> i rescued the scripts on webmin interface
[17:22] <vibedigital1> but i'm locked out of server
[17:23] <vibedigital1> services not starting
[17:23] <vibedigital1> i'm in rescue mode
[17:23] <vibedigital1> on a VM provided by ISP
[17:23] <genii> vibedigital1: There's so many things wrong with all that it's almost useless to start even explaining
[17:24] <Surendil> ircnode0: mount with fstab and mtab like this /dev/sda6 /home ext4 rw 0 0
[17:24] <Surendil> change path
[17:24] <zhongfu> why would you
[17:24] <zhongfu> i what
[17:24] <Anuska> Surendil, not find
[17:24] <vibedigital1> genii: what you recommend me to do?
[17:25] <vibedigital1> a fresh install with backups?
[17:26] <Anuska> Surendil, i need to connect at team viewer on windows computer
[17:27] <FatDarrel> any people here who know how dnsmasq works
[17:28] <Surendil> Anuska: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362951/installed-teamviewer-using-a-64-bits-system-but-i-get-a-dependency-error
[17:29] <lumia900> am trying to make my ubuntu as local LDAP server for samba
[17:29] <lumia900> whats the poossiblity tat i need to make it happen
[17:29] <lumia900> am getting stuck with DNS so far
[17:29] <AR45> genii, I have the ppa installed but when I search for the a file (for instance `nvidia-graphics-drivers-340`) they aren't found.
[17:30] <AR45> genii, is there a step I'm not aware of?
[17:30] <lumia900> genii ..
[17:30] <Surendil> lumia900: kerberos?
[17:30] <Clifford> hey
[17:30] <lumia900> Surendil: at my office we dont have windows AD
[17:31] <lumia900> but am planning to have a ubuntu as local file server with LDAP
[17:31] <farva> I can see that jstatd is running: http://gyazo.com/5edad94265821f8f35b11f5d2113364c but cannot run the command, it keeps telling me there is a perms error.  http://gyazo.com/33f748a0d025b486980ada3fa3b470f8
[17:31] <lumia900> i have samba enabled in my ubuntu .. but i need to make a LDAP in the same server and make sure users gets authenticated access to the file server
[17:32] <lumia900> Surendil ?
[17:33] <lumia900> can you get me whats the best i can do to get the required set up with ubuntu ..
[17:34] <genii> AR45: Did you do sudo apt-get update ..? Also did you close the Additional Drivers screen before adding the PPA, then re-open it after?
[17:36] <farva> I can see that jstatd process is running: http://gyazo.com/5edad94265821f8f35b11f5d2113364c but cannot run the command to connect visualVM remotely, it keeps telling me there is a perms error.  http://gyazo.com/33f748a0d025b486980ada3fa3b470f8 What do I have to do to make this work?
[17:37] <Surendil> lumia900: this is actually for red-hat maybe there's something for ubuntu also http://directory.fedoraproject.org/
[17:37] <ircnode0> Surendil: I appended this line '/dev/mapper/backup /mnt ext4 rw 0 0' to /etc/fstab and mount with 'mount /dev/mapper/backup /mnt/', but normal user can't create a new file.
[17:39] <imbezol> ircnode0: what are the permissions on /mnt?
[17:39] <imbezol> ircnode0: when mounted
[17:40] <Guest97558> hi
[17:41] <loa> where i can get support for pulseaudio?
[17:41] <ircnode0> drwxrwxrwx   5 root root  4096 Oct  3 19:33 mnt
[17:41] <spawndemonic> What are some ways you can manipulate the kernel in linux
[17:41] <Surendil> ircnode0: root mounts partition? change group with chown for users
[17:43] <xeru> Hai
[17:45] <farva> I can see that jstatd process is running: http://gyazo.com/5edad94265821f8f35b11f5d2113364c but cannot run the command to connect visualVM remotely, it keeps telling me there is a perms error.  http://gyazo.com/33f748a0d025b486980ada3fa3b470f8 What do I have to do to make this work?
[17:47] <Surendil> !ping
[17:49] <ircnode0> Surendil: Gnome user interface confused me. I wanted to create a new folder with mouse clicking, but "Create New Folder" is in grey, so I though I can't create a new folder.
[17:50] <ircnode0> Surendil: Seemingly I can create new files/folder although options are in grey colored.
[17:50] <k1l_> ircnode0: you might not have the right permissions to do that in that folder
[17:51] <Surendil> ircnode0: mkdir /mnt/folder - chown root.usergroup -R /mnt/folder
[17:51] <lumia900> Surendil i can see some more websites that helps out with in webmin itself
[17:52] <lumia900> but all i need is to make sure that ait mess my LAN
[17:52] <lumia900> as i dont have any DC in here .. i made my own WORKGROUP
[17:52] <yudenu_> hi, how could I set up the volume knob and the remote controller of creative soundblaster 5.1 (model: SB1095 , remote: RM-820) using LIRC on ubuntu 14.04? I found lots of information but I've only made the knob working once...
[17:52] <lumia900> and making it to be a DNS BIND
[17:54] <sergey__> Hi. Could anyone explain to me why everyone so angry with Lennart?
[17:54] <bazhang> sergey__, thats not on topic here
[17:55] <Surendil> lumia900: http://pastebin.com/VY67JvGQ ldap config i used
[17:55] <k1l_> sergey__: i bet the folks in #ubuntu-offtopic can
[18:03] <milehigh> is there a way to setup and configure mdRAID during the install and then install on it in 14.04?
[18:03] <milehigh> for Desktop, not server
[18:08] <_rogerio_> does anyone know a good screensharing software that runs fine on ubuntu? Right now I'm using Mikogo, but I'm wondering if there's any other good option which has windows and macosx clients too
[18:09] <reisio> talky.io
[18:09] <Surendil> _rogerio_: skype shares desktop view only also theres teamviewer
[18:10] <arthurfiggis> hello! i've seen a few guides here and there on the subject but some of them are old, so i figured i'd ask the experts :) i'd like to use one of my external usb hard drives to run ubuntu off, trying to get windows 7 and ubuntu dual booting together has been a real pain on my system...is that possible/recommended?
[18:11] <k1l_> arthurfiggis: yes. but since the usb disk is quite slow it will not feel as natural speedy as a intern install. but it will run
[18:12] <_rogerio_> Surendil, tried to find this option on Skype, I'll try to find again
[18:12] <_rogerio_> reisio, many, many thanks!
[18:12] <arthurfiggis> k1l_: ahh, okay...makes sense, especially with a usb 2.0 hard drive, it's not going to be as fast re: access time...at least it's possible though, thanks :) i'd buy another internal hard drive but in their infinite wisdom hp decided that this model of pavilion didn't need more than one 2.5" hard drive mount :P
[18:14] <Surendil> _rogerio_: https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA10215/how-do-i-share-my-screen-in-skype-for-windows-desktop
[18:15] <metallic> Hello all, I am in Kubuntu 14, I have an USB which is set to "read only" mode. I do not know how turn it to "read and write" mode. The chmod does not seem to work, also the KDE partition manager does not recognize the partition table of the USB
[18:16] <vedic_> How to know if mta is installed
[18:16] <Surendil> vedic_: dpkg -l '| grep mta
[18:18] <_rogerio_> Surendil, don't worry about that, talky.io did the trick unders Linux pretty well, thanks anyway!
[18:20] <vedic_> Surendil: dpkg -l | grep mta     no output
[18:20] <Surendil> vedic_: then, it's not installed
[18:22] <vedic_> It is normal to have yum installed in Ubuntu server?
[18:22] <vedic_> I have got access to server which has yum installed. I want to remove all unwanted programs
[18:23] <Surendil> vedic_: if you are used to yum, i don't see any problem...ubuntu has aptitude, works like yum
[18:23] <metallic> they both are software managers, no matter what you use
[18:24] <vedic_> Surendil: You didn't get you question. I use Ubuntu but the server in the cloud has yum which I didn't expect. I expected Minimal install but seems like they have installed all non required packages
[18:25] <Surendil> vedic_: uninstall yum
[18:25] <vedic_> So I can now purge yum
[18:25] <metallic> Hello all, I am in Kubuntu 14, I have an USB which is set to "read only" mode. I do not know how turn it to "read and write" mode. The chmod does not seem to work, also the KDE partition manager does not recognize the partition table of the USB
[18:25] <dreks> Is there any one command to get the text in the middle of two different seperators without using two cut's or two awk's ... like getting the word target from the string  "begin.target.end"
[18:28] <robingood> any nonjews here?
[18:28] <Jordan_U> metallic: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[18:29] <robingood> noraa
[18:29] <yuriks> Hi. Is mounting by label in /etc/fstab supported in 14.04.1 Server?
[18:29] <Jordan_U> yuriks: Yes.
[18:29] <yuriks> I get boot errors whenever I try to do that
[18:30] <yuriks> either with LABEL=FOO or /dev/disk/by-label/FOO
[18:30] <d0lmio> hello
[18:30] <robingood> hi
[18:30] <d0lmio> where can i get help with tails iso?
[18:30] <yuriks> paraphrasing: http://hastebin.com/lavohomelu.vala
[18:30] <unstable> Is there a python ppa to get 2.7.8? on trusty or precise?
[18:30] <metallic> Jordan_U, it says that my USB has not a valid partition table.
[18:30] <yuriks> does that in every boot
[18:31] <yuriks> if I change it to /dev/mapper/content_crypt, which is what CONTENT points to, then it works
[18:31] <metallic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8534691/
[18:31] <Jordan_U> yuriks: Please pastebin your /etc/fstab.
[18:31] <yuriks> the only thing I can think of is that the label symlinks aren't setup when it tries to mount the partition at boot (since just running mount -a immediatelly afterwards works)
[18:31] <yuriks> Jordan_U: ok
[18:32] <AR45> Anyone able to download packages from xorg-edgers atm?
[18:33] <yuriks> Jordan_U: http://hastebin.com/wudojojaqi.fstab
[18:33] <unstable> What version of python does trusty have?
[18:33] <OerHeks> !info python
[18:33] <spikeb> the default version appears to be 2.7
[18:34] <AR45> I can confirm, 2.7.
[18:34] <yuriks> it also install python3 by default afaik
[18:34] <[RO]Daniel> hello, is there a way to sync/manage music from iphone 5s on ubuntu?
[18:34] <unstable> OerHeks: There is a vulnerability that is fixed in 2.7.8, when does 2.7.8 come out for ubuntu?
[18:34] <robingood> yes
[18:34] <unstable> I can't find a python ppa
[18:34] <robingood> there is
[18:34] <unstable> with 2.7.8
[18:34] <robingood> PM me
[18:34] <Jordan_U> yuriks: Which of those entries is not working as intended?
[18:34] <spikeb> unforgiven512, 2.7 and 3.4
[18:34] <AR45> I don't understand why I can't download packages from xorg-edgers ppa :|
[18:34] <yuriks> Jordan_U: /content-xfer
[18:34] <Surendil> [RO]Daniel: fuse?
[18:34] <[RO]Daniel> "fuse?"
[18:35] <yuriks> Jordan_U: if I noauto it, or if I change the dev to /dev/mapper/content_crypt it works fine
[18:35] <[RO]Daniel> is that an app or something?
[18:35] <Surendil> !info fuse
[18:35] <robingood> nonjews PM me
[18:36] <yuriks> Jordan_U: if I let the error happen, then choose to go to the recovery console and run mount -a, I can just continue booting
[18:36] <Jordan_U> !iphone | [RO]Daniel
[18:36] <[RO]Daniel> thanks! :D
[18:36] <Flannel> unstable: Which fix in 2.7.8 is it?  the overflow?
[18:37] <OerHeks> unstable, next release 14.10 will have 2.7.8 http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/python2.7
[18:37] <unstable> Flannel: yes
[18:37] <Jordan_U> yuriks: Do you get any warnings about it during boot? Please pastebin your /var/log/syslog and the output of "dmesg".
[18:38] <yuriks> Jordan_U: I booted without plymouth/quiet earlier and didn't see anything except for that message, but let me get the logs
[18:39] <netlar> What is the reason some software is not in the official repository?
[18:39] <Flannel> unstable: Looks like that hasn't made it into Trusty yet, you may want to file a bug report just to nudge them, as it seems like the last update was in March.
[18:40] <Flannel> unstable: It'll be fixed in 14.04, but giving a nudge is always a good thing.
[18:40] <yuriks> Jordan_U: hm, it seems that message is happening in the initramfs, since I changed the fstab and forgot to update it and didn't get the error
[18:40]  * Anuska have a ubuntu nude!
[18:41] <lucian> Guys!
[18:42] <lucian> anyone have a 2 GB pen drive? :)))
[18:42] <netlar> Like the software Timeshift and Systemback are both not in the repository, just wondered why
[18:42] <TheMaverick`> Anuska: WHERE?!
[18:42] <AR45> lucian, yaaa?
[18:42] <Minus80> Ubuntu is very buggy.
[18:42] <AR45> Minus80, not at all
[18:42] <lucian> i can't install ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[18:42] <netlar> Minus80: Yes, 14.04 is very stable
[18:42] <lucian> i need a bigger pendrive :))))
[18:43] <Anuska> TheMaverick`, where what?
[18:43] <Anuska> my distro is nude :P
[18:43] <lucian> somehow, i can't update from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04
[18:44]  * lucian brb
[18:44] <metallic> Hello all, I am in Kubuntu 14, I have an USB which is set to "read only" mode. I do not know how turn it to "read and write" mode. The chmod does not seem to work, also the KDE partition manager does not recognize the partition table of the USB. Any Ideas?
[18:44] <ijwow> hello everyone, I just had a narrow escape from a week's work go in ashes..so I am looking for an alternative to ftp or filezilla now to edit remote files..could you recommend me any?
[18:44] <eeee> metallic: try sudo mount -o remount,rw /path/to/mounted/usb/partition
[18:44] <ijwow> I am using ubuntu, hence thought I could ask you here
[18:44] <TheMaverick`> [13:40] * Anuska have a ubuntu nude!
[18:45] <Anuska> :P
[18:45] <metallic> going for it eeee
[18:46] <DJones> Anuska: Do you have a support issue? Ubuntu nudes aren't support issues?
[18:46] <Anuska> :P
[18:46] <Anuska> in future
[18:46] <metallic> eeee, "sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1" yields this "can't find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[18:47] <Anuska> DJones, a team of sexy girl coming soon.
[18:47] <genii> ijwow: What OS is on the machine to which you are sending the edited files?
[18:47] <Anuska> :(
[18:47] <eeee> metallic: if you type df -h , do you see it mounted?
[18:48] <Jordan_U> metallic: You forgot the mountpoint.
[18:48] <yuriks> Jordan_U: https://gist.github.com/yuriks/c144c2414e6cb2728ee8
[18:48] <metallic> dev/sda7 /dev/sda6   /dev/sda8  and /dev/sda1
[18:48] <yuriks> Jordan_U: sorry about the delay, had to clean syslog since it was kinda huge
[18:49] <eeee> metallic: it doesn't seem to be mounted?
[18:49] <metallic> going for it eeeeit is not
[18:49] <metallic> it is not
[18:49] <guest1877> hi..  i have a computer with lubuntu 14.04 on it, and for some reason it keeps crashing..  that is to say, it gets slow, and then the mouse cursor arrow gets stuck in one place on the screen, and the mouse is able to be moved around but the arrow is in one place
[18:50] <eeee> metallic: sudo parted -l , shows nothing?
[18:50] <ijwow> genii, I dont know the OS, since the edited files are going to the hosting company's server
[18:50] <Jordan_U> metallic: How did you create the partitions and filesystems on this USB drive?
[18:50] <Anuska> What recommanded in ubuntu: gnome or xfce?
[18:50] <genii> ijwow: Ah. Becuse if it was some similar *nix system, I would recommend just ssh in and edit the files there and not your local box
[18:51] <metallic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8534772/
[18:51] <metallic> eeee,
[18:51] <Surendil> kmkfs.ext4 partition  or use gparted
[18:51] <Surendil> Anuska: xfce
[18:51] <metallic> Jordan_U, I typed "cp debian.iso /path/to/usb"
[18:51] <Anuska> Surendil, how i install xface ?
[18:52] <Surendil> Anuska: better download xubuntu
[18:52] <Anuska> :(
[18:53] <ehya1> is there any way to install gnome 3.10, 3.12 or 3.14 on ubuntu 12.04?
[18:53] <Jordan_U> metallic: OK, that is where the problem arised then. The partition table on debian.iso is for a drive with 512 byte sectors, where your drive has 2048 byte sectors. I would recommend using GParted to partition this drive with a new partition table (which will wipe all existing data).
[18:54] <metallic> gparted? ok, I am giving it a try :D:D
[18:54] <Surendil> Anuska: i've tried installing xfce, not worth installing going crazy if there's already a distro
[18:55] <Anuska> :(
[18:55] <Jordan_U> metallic: Also, the debian iso only ever contained a read only iso9660 filesystem, so it's not surprising that you weren't able to write to it, even without this other error.
[18:55] <uboth> Hi. Could anyone help me to fix my black screen problem, plz? Details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2246704&p=13134476#post13134476
[18:55] <genii> ijwow: If you just need some kind of different ftp software instead, perhaps check out FatRat
[18:58] <ijwow> genii, I almost lost my work for half of my file was opened for edit (due to bad connection) and I didnt notice it, and saved this file while editing. luckily, I had the original file in /tmp, and was given this hint by my saviour :)
[18:58] <ijwow> I am curious if there is another way to edit files where this wont happen
[19:00] <genii> ijwow: What program are you editing them with?
[19:00] <metallic> Jordan_U, Gparted fixed my USB, I created a new msdos partition table. KDE partition manager and Gparted are not supposed to be based on the same libraries, that is, why did KDE partition manager not work?
[19:01] <wildwind> ijwow: many text editors have autosave feature
[19:02] <katehalden> what can i use to run Linux instead of Ubuntu?
[19:02] <denny> You want a list of Linux distribution names?
[19:03] <OerHeks> katehalden, what answer do you want in #ubuntu?
[19:03] <denny> katehalden: http://distrowatch.com/
[19:03] <denny> katehalden: there's a big list down the right hand side of that page.  Have fun.  :)
[19:03] <katehalden> thanks
[19:03] <Anuska> Surendil, work :D
[19:03] <charli> hola
[19:03] <charli> soy nuevo
[19:03] <charli> como andais
[19:03] <charli> no se nada de esto
[19:03] <Jordan_U> ijwow: Not direct answer to your question, but you might want to consider keeping track of these files locally in git. If these are html/php/other similar files (and even if they're not) you'll be glad down the road that you had proper version control.
[19:03] <charli> alquien me explica
[19:03] <charli> como puedo cambiar de server
[19:04] <OerHeks> katehalden, there are more flavours of ubuntu, xubuntu is fast
[19:04] <charli> quiero cambiar a un server de mi pais
[19:04] <charli> country argentina
[19:04] <charli> ???
[19:04] <metallic> charli, utiliza el buscador de canales
[19:04] <genii> !ar | charli
[19:05] <charli> gracias eh
[19:05] <charli> otra pregunta
[19:05] <charli> como cambio el nick
[19:05] <metallic> ajaja
[19:05] <charli> charli
[19:05] <ijwow> Jordan_U, thank you for your insight! genii, wildwind, thank you very much! I am at a public wifi, and the place is closing now..I will connect back in a short while!
[19:05] <charli> es mi primera vez que ocupo el script y el sitemsta ubuntu
[19:06] <ijwow> till then!
[19:06] <metallic> Busca por la barra de menús, eso depende del cliente de IRC que uses
[19:06] <metallic> charli, qué cliente de IRC usas?
[19:06] <charli> smuxi
[19:06] <rom1504> no es un espagnol chan
[19:08] <charli> sera igual que el mirc
[19:09] <[___]]> ahhh cuack
[19:09] <[___]]> pero es raro porque salio el nombre de mi pc
[19:09] <[___]]> que loco
[19:10] <Surendil> [___]]: lo toma como default
[19:10] <OerHeks> !english | [___]]
[19:16] <IrcDroidClient> xd
[19:16] <IrcDroidClient> putossss
[19:16] <denny> Since I upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 last week, Evolution is really slow to mark spam emails and get them out of my inbox.  Used to be almost instantaneous, now it takes maybe 2 seconds, and if you click the spam button 3 times it doesn't pick up the next 2 as well, like it used to.   I am new to ubuntu. Anything I should do first?
[19:29] <genii> yuriks: I understand the sentiment but please keep the swearing down
[19:29] <metallic> Boot your system, Guest60680
[19:29] <compdoc> Guest60680, find the power button
[19:29] <Guest60680> Yes. I have successfully done that.
[19:29] <yuriks> genii: yeah, sorry. Brazil is in the middle of elections right now, and it seemed like he was trying to stage some dumb polictical activism DoS
[19:30] <compdoc> hurray!
[19:30] <metallic> Good!!!!!
[19:30] <Guest60680> :D WO
[19:30] <metallic> ahahah compdoc
[19:30] <genii> yuriks: Good to know
[19:30] <bazhang> !manual | Guest60680
[19:30] <Guest60680> Ah. Danke! Just what I was looking for.
[19:31] <Sunstream> Okay, how do I set my keyboard to use the Super Key (Windows) It doesnt work on my lubuntu for some reason
[19:31] <bazhang> !rute | Guest60680 and this
[19:31] <Guest60680> Thanks.
[19:31] <OerHeks> Guest60680, start with multimedia stuff https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[19:32] <sxv1023> hi folks, i have a question about lscpu: does anyone know what the 'book number' refers to?
[19:33] <Sunstream> None of the super+keystroke works
[19:33] <Sunstream> anyone help me?
[19:34] <metallic> Sunstream, have you taken a look at keyboard preferences?
[19:35] <Sunstream> where is that at
[19:36] <Sunstream> prefs or sys tools
[19:36] <metallic> system preferences, or system tools. You should be able to see a section of mouse, keyboard and so
[19:37] <metallic> I am using KDE so unless you are using it too, I can't specify the exact name ^^'
[19:38] <Sunstream> okay I do not see that
[19:38] <Sunstream> even under keyboard mouse that just sets up the mouse speed and such and keyboard repeat/delay
[19:40] <metallic> are you using unity?
[19:40] <Sunstream> No
[19:40] <Sunstream> lubuntu
[19:40] <yuriks> Jordan_U: it seems like it's trying to fsck /dev/mapper/content_crypt_unformatted for some reason O_o
[19:40] <metallic> Gnome desktop enviroment?
[19:40] <metallic> Gnome desktop environment?
[19:40] <yuriks> (and that doesn't exist, of course)
[19:40] <metallic> lxde then
[19:41] <metallic> Sunstream, sorry I am very unfamiliar with that desktop environment. It has been a long time since I used it :(
[19:41] <Sunstream> sigh
[19:41] <Sunstream> I think they are disabled in lubuntu
[19:42] <metallic> Sunstream,
[19:42] <metallic> connect to the lxde channel
[19:42] <metallic> #lxde
[19:43] <metallic> and ask there ;)
[19:43] <yuriks> Jordan_U: ok, it's this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/719563
[19:43] <eeee> Sunstream: there should be something along the lines of Keyboard Shortcuts , under settings > Keyboard ( i think )
[19:45] <Sunstream> cannot find that
[19:48] <requiredfield> I'm SSH'd into a VPS my friend gave me. "uname -a" is reporting an old kernel so I installed the linux-image-generic package and rebooted, but uname still reports the old kernel. Tried to see if I could choose the new one in /boot/grub/grub.conf but that file isn't there. Tried running update-grub to generate one and got /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/var/lib/vz/private/102'.
[19:48] <requiredfield> any ideas?
[19:50] <Jordan_U> requiredfield: Many times your "virtual server" is just a container, meaning that you have no control over what kernel is being used.
[19:51] <yuriks> Jordan_U: ".../vz/..." means it definitely a container
[19:52] <yuriks> requiredfield: so you have to live with the kernel you have
[19:52] <guest1877> hello..  i am unable to use synaptic package manager for some reason.  i first noticed this problem today.  when i try to open it, i get the password prompt, and then nothing happens..  i tried to launch it from the terminal.  when i just use the command 'synaptic', without running it as root, it is able to open, but if i try to run it as root, or with sudo, i get the following output:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8535148/
[19:52] <Jordan_U> requiredfield: Be aware that upgrading your userland without being able to upgrade your kernel could lead to issues, so you're probably stuck with the release of Ubuntu they give you as well.
[19:53] <guest1877> can someone help me to diagnose this?  i am using the vanilla ubuntu 14.04
[19:53] <yuriks> indeed, it's a pain in the ass, especially for distros with newer systemd, which requires a 3.something kernel
[19:53] <guest1877> sorry, i mean just regular ubuntu 14.04 with regular unity
[19:53] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | guest1877
[19:53] <Jordan_U> !hostname | guest1877
[19:54] <requiredfield> thanks yuriks and Jordan_U. i actually dist-upgraded to 14.04 from 12.04 without any trouble, fortunately. the kernel is 2.6.32-6-pve. know off the top of your head if that's so old it will give me a bad time? hoping to use this server to host redis instances and a python web application i'm building.
[19:54] <requiredfield> which could get a high volume of traffic
[19:55] <Jordan_U> requiredfield: That's asking for trouble.
[19:55] <yuriks> requiredfield: it's a custom OpenVZ patched kernel
[19:55] <yuriks> requiredfield: I think they backport a lot of stuff to it
[19:55] <bazhang> !info linux-image-generic
[19:56] <requiredfield> yuriks: what's asking for trouble?
[19:56] <yuriks> (which I don't understand, isn't it easier to forward-port your OpenVZ patches instead of backporting the rest of the kernel?)
[19:56] <guest1877> ok...  i still got the same output though
[19:56] <yuriks> requiredfield: dist-upgrading, I think
[19:56] <guest1877> sudo was not the problem
[19:56] <CrazyM4n> How do I install the newest sdl libraries? I need version 2.0.3 but I have 2.0.2 from apt-get
[19:56] <ikonia> I doubt you "need" 2.0.3
[19:56] <requiredfield> yuriks: oh no, and now i've done it already. should/can i dist-downgrade?
[19:56] <ikonia> what's the issue with 2.0.2
[19:56] <CrazyM4n> ikonia: Helm requires it
[19:56] <guest1877> my problem is that synaptic will not open..  can someone help me?
[19:56] <yuriks> requiredfield: check on the internet if ubuntu 14.04 is fine with that kernel version (specifically the openvz one)
[19:57] <Jordan_U> guest1877: Did you read both messages from ubottu? Have you recently changed your hostname?
[19:57] <CrazyM4n> Never mind, I just found a ppa for it
[19:57] <yuriks> requiredfield: if it is then you shouldn't have to worry, if it isn't then random things that depend on kernel features might fail to run
[19:57] <guest1877> Jordan_U, i recently changed my computer name
[19:57] <Jordan_U> guest1877: That's your hostame. How did you change it?
[19:58] <guest1877> Jordan_U, i did sudo nano /etc/hostname
[19:58] <Noah_AT> Hey guys! Originally my issue was trying to connect to my ubuntu sever via SSH using my external IP. Initally I had two routers with double NAT configured. Last night I turned off the DHCP server of the second router and now NAT is handled by the first and the second is just a switch. Problem now is that the second router (switch) drops all connections every 20min and I have to power cycle to reconnect
[19:58] <guest1877> and changed the name that way
[19:58] <requiredfield> yuriks: first couple google hits for "ubuntu 14.04 2.6.32-6-pve" are http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Roadmap and https://github.com/proxmox/pve-kernel-2.6.32/blob/master/changelog.Debian but neither seem to say whether ubuntu 14.04 supports that kernel
[19:58] <guest1877> i will chech the hosts file now
[19:58] <guest1877> thanks
[19:58] <requiredfield> thanks so much for this info by the way, super helpful
[19:59] <requiredfield> i guess i should uninstall linux-image-generic
[19:59] <Noah_AT> So, why is my router which is acting as a network switch going down so often? How do I stop it from happending
[20:00] <OerHeks> !info hostnamectl
[20:01] <requiredfield> yuriks: anywhere else i can check if 14.04 supports this kernel?
[20:01] <ikonia> use the kernel provided by ubuntu
[20:01] <Jordan_U> OerHeks: hostnamectl is part of the systemd-services package (in Ubuntu 14.04). And yes, we should consider changing that factoid to mention it as it's a great tool :)
[20:02] <Jordan_U> ikonia: They can't, they're using a VPS and only have a container.
[20:02] <guest1877> Jordan_U, how do i include both the old and the new hostname?
[20:02] <guest1877> in the hosts file
[20:02] <ikonia> so their VPS provider should be supporting them
[20:02] <ikonia> it's up to the VPS provider to make sure the user space will work
[20:02] <Finetundra> hello everyone
[20:02] <ikonia> the guest is outside the user control
[20:03] <yuriks> requiredfield: don't know, sorry. I know some of this stuff because I researche if I could run Arch Linux on OpenVZ, but don't know about any Ubuntu specifics
[20:03] <requiredfield> yuriks: gotcha, thanks
[20:04] <ijwow> Jordan_U, hello back! :) you'd just recommended me to use git last time we were talking an hour or so ago..
[20:04] <ijwow> so I can start by downloading git from repos?
[20:05] <ijwow> installing, I mean
[20:05] <requiredfield> yuriks: last question then, is there a mailing list you can recommend i ask on?
[20:05] <Sunstream> Forget it I am going to try Unity since I have a stand alone dvd player. the reason I am using lubuntu was for playing DVDs
[20:05] <yuriks> requiredfield: not sure either. You might want to try asking your provider's support
[20:06] <Noah_AT> Hi guys, I need help figuring out why is my router which is acting as a network switch is going down every 30min or so and how to I stop it from happending. Thanks!
[20:06] <Jordan_U> ijwow: Yes.
[20:06] <guntbert> Noah_AT: what OS is your router running?
[20:07] <Finetundra> after i go past grub, i just  get a screen with a blinking cursor. what do i do?
[20:07] <requiredfield> yuriks: unfortunately it's a friend who's busy and already doing me a favor giving me this free container so i want to limit how much i bug him. think i should just dist-downgrade, if that's possible?
[20:08] <Finetundra> oh, it's better now
[20:08] <ijwow> Jordan_U, it seems command-line only?
[20:08] <Noah_AT> guntbert: So I just got the new comcast “upgrade” router and then turned off the DHCP server on my netgear3800. (The comcast router now connects to a LAN port of the netgear3800) The OS on which router? The comcast or the netgear working as a switch?
[20:09] <Jordan_U> guest1877: Edit /etc/hosts with "sudo nano /etc/hosts" and add a new line containing "<IP_ADDRESS>    your_new_hostname_here". That is assuming that you can manage to successfully run "sudo nano /etc/hosts", which you probably can't.
[20:09] <guntbert> Noah_AT: neither the comcast nor the netgear are running Ubuntu, are they?
[20:09] <yuriks> ijwow: git is a version control system, not an FTP client. You probably want to read up on it
[20:10] <Jordan_U> ijwow: There are a few GUI front ends for git. And as yuriks said, it's not an ftp client, it's a system for keeping track of changes you make to files (generally human readable and human written text files).
[20:10] <ijwow> yuriks..I think the same :)
[20:11] <Finetundra> can someone give me the command to install xfce?
[20:11] <Jordan_U> requiredfield: Downgrading is not possible, you'll have to re-install / ask for a new container.
[20:11] <ijwow> Jordan_U, it eliminates the risk to lose files that way, to have the files always at hand and be able to retrace what was done, I guess
[20:11] <Noah_AT> guntbert: Negative. This whole problem started when I was trying to forward ports to SSH into my ubuntu server externally. My network was working great, but I was behind double NAT and someone suggested I disable DHCP and use the second router as a switch. Now it fails every 30min
[20:11] <ijwow> or, rather, to lose the data in the files
[20:11] <yeats> Finetundra: 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[20:12] <Jordan_U> ijwow: Exactly.
[20:12] <Finetundra> yeats, i just want the desktop, none of the extras that'll give me
[20:12] <ijwow> Jordan_U, I will read upon it, thank you very much for recommending!
[20:12] <guntbert> Noah_AT: sorry, I cannot make any sense out of your statement
[20:12] <Jordan_U> ijwow: You're welcome :)
[20:13] <bazhang> Noah_AT, tried ##networking yet?
[20:13] <yeats> Finetundra: then do 'apt-cache search xfce' (or use the software center) and pick the packages that look right to you
[20:13] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: ^^ or just 'xfce4' -> sudo apt-get install xorg , sudo apt-get install xfce4 <- .
[20:13] <bazhang> Finetundra, apt-cache search xfce
[20:14] <bazhang> !info xfce4
[20:14] <Noah_AT> bazhang: Negative. I’ll do that now. Initially this was a problem SSHing into my ubuntu server via my external IP, so thats why i’ve been on #ubuntu
[20:14] <bazhang> Noah_AT, understood, but it sounds like an issue more suited to that channel
[20:15] <ijwow> I was recommended by the great guy (whom I owe the rescue of today) to connect from nautilus directly to the server..could this be a good replacement to filezilla (sorry if the question is not fully sensible, I never edited remote files in the mentioned way before)
[20:15] <ijwow> ?
[20:15] <yeats> ijwow: not a replacement, but yeah, it can do some of the same tasks
[20:16] <yeats> ijwow: filezilla is one of those magical swiss army knife programs that just does what you need
[20:17] <ijwow> yeats, I am just wary of ftp/filezilla after today's incident (and upon that heard some 'disrecommendation' of them)..that's why considering finding an alternative
[20:17] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, thanks that's what i was looking for
[20:17] <yeats> ijwow: not familiar with any incidient
[20:18] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: :) ,,, what have you done ? .. wipe the SATA disk and start all over ?
[20:18] <ijwow> yeats, I was at a bad public connection and half of the remote file was opened for editing when I called it via filezilla..I didnt notice it and saved upon the half-text. the full initial remote file would be almost gone if I didnt find it in the tmp
[20:19] <ijwow> the connection was intermittent, it wasnt filezilla's fault, I guess..but I'd prefer a program/method that wouldnt allow it to happen..
[20:19] <yeats> ijwow: well, that doesn't sound like it's filezilla's fault - I would assume the same thing could happen with any similar program
[20:19] <yeats> (including nautilus, fwiw)
[20:20] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, no, i accidentally typed a program int the command line and it went a ta off
[20:20] <MrMan> hello there does anyone know how to remove the text that is presented at login for tty ?
[20:20] <MrMan> not the motd ^^
[20:20] <Jordan_U> MrMan: What is your end goal?
[20:20] <ijwow> yeats, how about auto-saving while editing? I also was informed that text editors do it, but apparently gedit doesnt, am I right?
[20:20] <MrMan> just to have a <hostname> login:
[20:21] <MrMan> Jordan_U, ^^
[20:21] <ijwow> I mean making it possible to always have some archive copy somewhere in the text program
[20:22] <yeats> ijwow: vi/vim does that - the original isn't touched until you write to it explicitly
[20:23] <ijwow> yeats, about ftp I was told that the thing that happened to me was what ftp was notorious for
[20:23] <yeats> ijwow: well, it doesn't autosave
[20:23] <ijwow> otherwise I was only happy with ftp/filezilla until now
[20:23] <yeats> ijwow: I would just take precautions to backup anything before editing - problem solved, right?
[20:23] <MrMan> Jordan_U, I think I found it under /etc/issue
[20:23] <ijwow> yeats, yes, sure, it is always possible
[20:24] <wildwind> ijwow: i'm sure there is plugin for gedit that do autosave every x minutes or so
[20:24] <yeats> probably on for vim too ;-)
[20:24] <yeats> s/on/one/
[20:25] <wildwind> ijwow: but your problem (accidental overwrite) can't be solved that way
[20:26] <ijwow> wildwind, yes, it cannot..only maybe if each autosaved copy is retained..
[20:26] <wildwind> ijwow: having a habit to always edit file locally then upload is one possible solution
[20:26] <ijwow> wildwind, yes, that goes as the surest bet
[20:27] <wildwind> ijwow: using VCS (git for example) is another solution
[20:28] <wildwind> ijwow: each has it's pros and cons
[20:29] <ijwow> wildwind, we were just talking about git, it seems I need a reading session before being able to tell grains from staples :)
[20:30] <lott> ei alguem ai
[20:31] <lott> OLÁ!!! AlGUÉM!!!!
[20:31] <guntbert> !pt | lott
[20:32] <wildwind> ijwow: you cat start here, to get a broader view: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Version_control_system
[20:34] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, so what was the command that i needed to use to get it to switch to the desktop gui?
[20:34] <ijwow> wildwind, it seems that's how they restore websites when they crash or DDoSed ? :)
[20:35] <sparr> my boot is hanging at "* Starting set console keymap     [OK]" what might cause that?
[20:36] <ijwow> wildwind, thank you for the link!
[20:36] <Finetundra> anyone know the command to switch from command line interface to desktop gui?
[20:37] <pchero1> Finetundra: Alt+Ctrl+F7 ?
[20:37] <Finetundra> pchero1, well that did something
[20:37] <wildwind> ijwow: sometimes yes. usually sites got restored from backup (another wiki keyword ;) )
[20:39] <Finetundra> pchero1, i now have a flashing yellow cursor int he top right
[20:40] <pchero1> Um..
[20:40] <Finetundra> pchero1, i just rebooted, so lets go from there
[20:41] <B0bsF1sh> So I don't have to reboot totally to get it usable at least.
[20:41] <pchero1> ok
[20:42] <Finetundra> pchero1, what's the exact description of that command?
[20:42] <B0bsF1sh> Can anyone tell me why when I do "sudo service lightdm stop" - I get an unusable console? I just found out that I can "sudo service lightdm start" in an SSH session to make the console go back into Unity (the "don't have to reboot to get it usable comment") - but I can't make the console get to a usable text terminal. it looks like this when I stop lightdm: http://imgur.com/zMAI0Tt
[20:42] <pchero1> Finetundra: Can you run Desktop gui? like startx?
[20:42] <Finetundra> i'm trying
[20:43] <pchero1> ok. When you done to login to desktop gui,
[20:43] <pchero1> then press alt+ctrl+F1 ~ F6
[20:43] <pchero1> then you will know what's that commands.
[20:43] <Jordan_U> B0bsF1sh: Have you tried just chvt'ing to a tty with some content?
[20:44] <pchero1> Alt+Ctrl+F1 ~ F6 means it changes to command line interface.
[20:44] <pchero1> But Alt+Ctrl+F7 changes to Desktop gui like gnome.
[20:44] <Finetundra> pchero1, i just got past grub, so i'll keep you posted
[20:44] <vaskozl> Hey, I'm using ubuntu without unity and as of recently notify-send has started showing a blue line with white text on the top left of the screen.
[20:45] <B0bsF1sh> Jordan_U: over my head - I see there's a chvt cmd. I'd need to do that on a remote SSH session though because as soon as I stop the lightdm service the console is unusable. Is that what you mean to try?
[20:45] <vaskozl> This happened sometime after the update to 14.04
[20:45] <vaskozl> before it used to show a tranparent black block with white text that looked nice a bit below the top right of the screen
[20:45] <pchero1> Finetundra: ok just go ahead. Pass the grub and wait until gdm shows up.
[20:45] <vaskozl> anyone know what could've caused the change in look of notify-send and how I might be able to change it back?
[20:46] <Finetundra> pchero1, back to the command line gui
[20:46] <Jordan_U> B0bsF1sh: chvt changes the virtual terminal that is currently active. It's the command equivalent of ctrl+alt+F#.
[20:47] <pchero1> command line gui?
[20:47] <Finetundra> yes
[20:47] <pchero1> Finetundra: did you logged in using gdm?
[20:47] <genii> Finetundra: Is it the grub boot prompt again, or a linux system prompt?
[20:48] <Finetundra> pchero1, no. logged in via the command line gui.
[20:49] <pchero1> Finetundra: What version of linux did you install it?
[20:49] <Finetundra> genii, it's like what you'd be working in by opening terminal on your desktop only this is the desktop
[20:49] <Finetundra> pchero1, ubuntu 13.10
[20:50] <B0bsF1sh> Jordan_U: no matter what number arg I send to chvt on my SSH session, I get this: "Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console" - I tried in my unresponsive console window, but I saw no difference (no feedback, it appears locked up)
[20:50] <genii> Finetundra: So linux prompt. I recall yesterday your grub was stuck, so progress seems to be made.
[20:50] <Jordan_U> B0bsF1sh: Did you try ctrl+alt+F1?
[20:50] <B0bsF1sh> Jordan_U: Yes, same thing (no apparent change)
[20:51] <B0bsF1sh> But, if I do sudo service lightdm start in my SSH session, my console window springs to life and I get back into the GUI
[20:51] <Finetundra> -genii, yes i'm past the grub problem now
[20:51] <pchero1> Finetundra: ah.. I think your problem is your linux can not run gnome/de..
[20:52] <genii> Finetundra: Can you run startx from there?
[20:52] <pchero1> type "startx"
[20:52] <vaskozl> ping on the notify-send issue?
[20:52] <k1l> well, better start the lightdm instead of startx
[20:52] <Finetundra> that did something, but i don't know what yet
[20:53] <AR45> sudo service lightdm start
[20:53] <bekks> pchero1: startx is deprecated.
[20:53] <Finetundra> bekks, now you say that
[20:54] <vaskozl> bekks: how else would you run without a DM?
[20:54] <bekks> vaskozl: You wont run it without a DM, thats what a DM is for.
[20:55] <vaskozl> I do and I see no reason why a DM is necessary.
[20:55] <vaskozl> infact a lot of people do
[20:55] <xubuntu> hi there
[20:55] <Timoty>  what's a DM ?
[20:55] <k1l> vaskozl: the standard ubuntu is build around using a dm.
[20:55] <AR45> timbur, !DM
[20:55] <vaskozl> I haven't said it isn't
[20:55] <AR45> !DM
[20:55] <Guest20707> hi there
[20:55] <AR45> !Desktop Manager
[20:55] <vaskozl> I'm just saying that startx is good if you don't want to run a DM.
[20:55] <Finetundra> pchero1, "xinit: connection to X server lost"
[20:56] <AR45> !DesktopManager
[20:56] <k1l> vaskozl: of course you can run without dm, but you could also build everything from source. but that is not the ubuntu way, which makes sense on ubuntu
[20:56] <Timoty>  I would like to know what is actually a DM
[20:56] <vaskozl> I'm not arguing with that
[20:56] <k1l> vaskozl: startx will mess with permission because ubuntu is build to use sudo and no root account.
[20:56] <vaskozl> sorry it's DE
[20:56] <bekks> vaskozl: a DE is different from a DM.
[20:56] <vaskozl> you have a WM and a DE
[20:56] <k1l> vaskozl: so, starting the dm that will handle the xserver etc for the user
[20:57] <bekks> Timoty: DM = display mamager, DE = desktop environment
[20:57] <AR45> DM = xorg bro
[20:57] <vaskozl> oh, I'd confused it
[20:57] <bekks> AR45: that not true.
[20:57] <vaskozl> sorry then
[20:57] <Timoty>  Okay. thanks
[20:57] <AR45> bekks, uhuh
[20:57] <vaskozl> DM = login manager accoring to arch wiki
[20:58] <k1l> vaskozl: that is the part you see. but it starts the xserver in the background.
[20:58] <Finetundra> lightdm: unrecognized service
[20:58] <Jordan_U> AR45: Xorg is the Display Server, not the Display Manager.
[20:58] <AR45> Same shit
[20:59] <bekks> AR45: Totally different, in fact.
[20:59] <Finetundra> !DesktopManager: event not found
[20:59] <pchero1> Finetundra: Could you explain what kind of machine did you install? It doesn't seems like normal machine.
[20:59] <Finetundra> pchero1, do you mean the OS or the actual machine
[20:59] <k1l> Finetundra: is lightdm installed?
[20:59] <pchero1> Actuall machine.
[21:00] <AR45> Once he does sudo apt-get install xorg he can it installs a dm called xinit no?
[21:00] <bekks> AR45: No.
[21:00] <AR45> Okay,
[21:00]  * AR45 leaves
[21:00] <k1l> Finetundra: what ubuntu version did you install there? what desktop?
[21:00] <pchero1> k1l: He said 13.10
[21:00] <Finetundra> pchero1, IBM xseries 225
[21:00] <Finetundra> k1l probably not
[21:01] <pchero1> Finetundra: Is this? http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/7/897/ENUS104-007/index.html
[21:02] <Finetundra> pchero1, close enough
[21:03] <pchero1> Finetundra: ok. And did you install ubuntu-13.10-AMD64?
[21:03] <Finetundra> pchero1, i386. amd 64 said it was unsupported
[21:04] <B0bsF1sh> Any other ideas on how to get a usable text console after stopping lightdm?
[21:05] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: what do you mean by usable text console? stopping lightdm will stop the xserver
[21:05] <uboth> Hi. Could anyone help me to fix my black screen problem, plz? Details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2246704&p=13134476#post13134476
[21:06] <reisio> B0bsF1sh: enter
[21:06] <B0bsF1sh> When I do "sudo service lightdm stop" - I get an unusable console. it looks like this when I stop lightdm: http://imgur.com/zMAI0Tt - I can "sudo service lightdm start" in an SSH session to make the console go back into the GUI, but I want to kill the GUI and just get a text console (like I get when I first boot the machine).
[21:07] <B0bsF1sh> I've tried enter, Esc, Control+Alt+Fx, chvt x, exit, etc etc.
[21:07] <reisio> B0bsF1sh: reset?
[21:07] <reisio> that is 'reset'
[21:07] <eeee> yeah or clear_console ( maybe )
[21:07] <B0bsF1sh> The console appears to take no input - what does reset do?
[21:08] <eeee> type reset blindly and hit enter
[21:08] <reisio> B0bsF1sh: nothing or something
[21:08] <reisio> looks like your kms/framebuffer has geeked out
[21:08] <reisio> hooray for them making that so mandatory
[21:08] <Finetundra> i must go folks
[21:08] <B0bsF1sh> Tried reset and clear_console a few times (blindly) - no change
[21:08] <reisio> you should be able to blacklist the kms by default bit
[21:09] <reisio> but why do you need a console if X works
[21:09] <Nady> I hi
[21:09] <reisio> ohai
[21:09] <B0bsF1sh> Because it's a server 90% of the time. Sometimes I want to start lightdm to do something in the GUI, then I want it back to a headless server without any x running
[21:09] <Nady> My name is nady and i recently installed Skype but I am not able to use it for calling
[21:09] <B0bsF1sh> (save some resources, increase performance .. maybe)
[21:10] <Nady> calls plays but no voice incoming no outgoing
[21:13] <B0bsF1sh> reisio: what's kms/framebuffer and is that what I need to concentrate on to try to troubleshoot this? any good starting point to read up on?
[21:14] <Sunstream> How do I upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04.1?
[21:15] <k1l> Sunstream: what does "lsb_release -d" say?
[21:15] <ordinarynick> FG_Hurz: ERWISCHT!
[21:16] <jflory> Hello all, I am looking for some advice about running Ubuntu on a rather... challenging device. I have an iMac desktop, specifically, the 7,1 2007 model, which seems to be renowned for having issues with Linux in general. I had tried installing Fedora before and ended up being unable to run X on it. So...
[21:17] <jflory> I was looking at the Ubuntu Documentation, and I found info for running 10.04 / 10.10 on my iMac, but I couldn't find anything about more recent versions.
[21:17] <Sunstream> that is a CLI?
[21:17] <Sunstream> Ubuntu 14.04.1
[21:17] <jflory> Does anyone know if an iMac desktop can support more recent versions of Ubuntu than 10.04 / 10.10?
[21:17] <k1l> Sunstream: just run the updates
[21:17] <jflory> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iMac7-1/Lucid / https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iMac7-1/Maverick
[21:17] <Sunstream> Okay
[21:18] <k1l> Sunstream: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" that will install all updates
[21:18] <jflory> My information is based off of those two help pages in terms of trying to decide which version of Ubuntu to use on my iMac.
[21:19] <jflory> Would I be able to use those guides with a newer version of Ubuntu, or would there be a way I could install those older versions and (safely) upgrade to a later version?
[21:19] <Sunstream> Command Running
[21:19] <marco> preattivato
[21:20] <Sunstream> Command 2 Running
[21:20] <Guest94105> avete per caso windows 8.1 preattivato?
[21:20] <Sunstream> what guest?
[21:20] <jakesyl> Hey guys, why am I getting a syntax error on : for %f in (*.docx) do w2m %f
[21:21] <Jordan_U> jflory: Start by just trying to boot from an Lubuntu 14.04 LiveCD/USB (Lubuntu since this is an older machine), if the Live environment works well then you'll probably be fine installing normally as well.
[21:21] <jakesyl> it says '(' was unexpected
[21:21] <bekks> jakesyl: Because thats an invalid syntax.
[21:21] <jakesyl> why?
[21:22] <Sunstream> lubuntu rules. Unity is just all purdy (pretty) :)
[21:22] <Jordan_U> jflory: There were so many odd ugly hacks for macs in those days that I don't recommend trying any suggestsions from years ago on a modern system without a lot of consideration. And I don't recommend just running an old version of Ubuntu either :)
[21:22] <bekks> jakesyl: Because it is invalid. Valid syntax would look like: for i in *.docx; do ...; done
[21:22] <eeee> jakesyl: for f in *.docx; do w2m $f; done
[21:23] <Jordan_U> eeee: jflory for f in *.docx; do w2m "$f"; done # Don't forget to quote your variables either.
[21:23] <eeee> ^^ yeah
[21:24] <jflory> Jordan_U: Noted! In that case, I will see if I can get an Lubuntu 14.04 USB booted off my iMac and see where that takes me.
[21:24] <jflory> If Ubuntu doesn't work, I'm going to just abandon hope at running Linux on my iMac at this point, hahah
[21:24] <Jordan_U> jflory: Also, you will likely have much better luck booting from CD than from USB.
[21:24] <jflory> I have a few CDs lying around
[21:25] <marianne> general question - what is the max number of monitors supported by 14.04. I do know if depends on how many vid cards you have but is there an OS limit too?
[21:25] <jakesyl> error: %f is not a valid identifier
[21:26] <jakesyl> oh thanks Jordan_U
[21:26] <bekks> marianne: The macimum number of monitors depends on your graphics adapter(s) and their drivers.
[21:27] <turova> I just got an MSI GT70 and it's struggling with dual displays through the built-in graphics. When I connect a second display, it black screens for a second, shows the login screen, black screens again, shows the login screen again, etc.
[21:27] <turova> Is this the right channel and can anyone help me figure out why?
[21:27] <marianne> bekks: ok that makes sense... so as long as my hardware and drivers support it, 14.04 has no limitations?
[21:32] <meatmanek> is there something like the linux-image-extra package for lucid?
[21:33] <bekks> !info linux-image-extra lucid
[21:34] <meatmanek> right; kernel packages got all shuffled around between lucid and precise, I think; and I'm wondering whether there's something along the same lines as linux-image-extra on lucid; i.e. some package that includes common drivers
[21:35] <meatmanek> rather
[21:35] <meatmanek> !info linux-image-extra-virtual lucid
[21:38] <ravster1> How should I declare a make task so that it runs another script in a subdirectory?
[21:40] <danostrowski> hi, kind of emergency, here. i changed a line in sources.list trying to get updates because apparently quantal is not supported or something anymore?
[21:40] <danostrowski> anyhow it broke my postgresql server... o.O
[21:40] <danostrowski> on a live site.
[21:41] <danostrowski> Unable to resolve dependencies for the upgrade: no solution found.
[21:42] <k1l> please put into a pastebin "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:45] <danostrowski> k1l: I've reverted it for now...
[21:45] <danostrowski> and I'm doing --full-resolver.
[21:45] <danostrowski> k1l: it wants to remove postgresql and postgresql-9.1 which is what it apparently tried to install, for a security update.
[21:45] <danostrowski> I'm guessing since I have version 9.1.9-0ubuntu12.10 installed it will be OK, but I'm worried about it removing the "postgres" package.
[21:47] <k1l> danostrowski: its hard to tell for us without seeing any messages/errors you see. but running 12.10 is a mess, since you did not recieve any security upates since ages. and not only shellshock but all the other big ones before that are still unfixed
[21:58] <Timoty>  k1l is true, I think the OS you can used for now for instance is Ubuntu 14.04LTS which actually a stable OS.
[21:59] <pzkpfw> I'm installing Ubuntu on my friend's laptop for the first time
[22:00] <Fillipe> Hi, how to update MySQL from 5.5 to 5.6 on Ubuntu 13 using command line?
[22:01] <k1l> Fillipe: i strongly suggest you first make sure you run a ubuntu release, that get security updates. which actually is 12.04 or 14.04.
[22:02] <snoop> ever since i updated ubuntu , its been acting really slow and the font seems like it changes and then changes back to the original font right away, its wierd. and also i cannot access external usb drives anymore. please help
[22:03] <Fillipe> k1l: I agree, the point is I need to try to run mysql first to test a specific app then run it
[22:03] <sokoll> snoop: have you updated your graphics driver?
[22:03] <snoop> also when i was updating, the comp froze
[22:03] <Fillipe> this is a server so I need to pause everything and do it durint overnight
[22:04] <OerHeks> Fillipe, but the 13.04/13.10 repos are down
[22:04] <k1l> Fillipe: that would mean you need to build from source or get a .deb package.
[22:05] <Fillipe> well that mean I have no idea how to do it
[22:05] <Fillipe> lol
[22:05] <jhutchins> snoop: Upgraded from what to what?
[22:05] <bekks> Fillipe: Then you should setup a testserver using 14.04 and test your app.
[22:05] <k1l> Fillipe: i think you should make a 14.04 setup (virtualbox etc) and test the app and then make a new start on a 14.04 reinstall after that. and for the future: stay on LTS for servers
[22:06] <Fillipe> that make sense
[22:06] <Fillipe> upgrading from 13 to 14.04 will stop my online apps?
[22:07] <loa> when i press ctrl + alt + f8 what i catully do?
[22:07] <loa> changing tty?
[22:07] <loa> or what?
[22:07] <loa> how it is called?
[22:07] <yeats> loa: yes - changing TTY
[22:07] <loa> yeats, even i have another display on f8?
[22:08] <loa> even if i have *
[22:08] <yeats> loa: not sure I understand
[22:08] <loa> i use xinit to start there another display manager
[22:08] <k1l> Fillipe: its needed a reboot. but first test if the app-setup runs fine there
[22:08] <turova> Anyone have experience debugging laptop integrated graphics dual display problems?
[22:08] <loa> yeats, i use such script https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.11-02%3A08%3A37.png
[22:09] <turova> I got a msi gt70 and when I connect a second monitor it logs me out and keeps showing the login screen and blacking out everyone 1-2 seconds
[22:09] <Fillipe> k1l: gonna do it but it is a regular apache+php+mysql server, basic stuff
[22:11] <jhutchins> loa: Essentially the two X sessions are running on vtty7 and vtty8
[22:12] <loa> jhutchins, i run into problem, that when i change tty when game is loading it's just silent crash.
[22:12] <loa> jhutchins, how do you it can appear or it is game bug?
[22:12] <jhutchins> loa: Actual tty sessions don't run there, if you kill X they go away.  It's possible to have more or less than six virtual consoles, wich can sometimes affect where X starts, it can take whatever the next number tty is, or it can be forced to 7 (which I think most distros do now).
[22:12] <loa> how to change ttys actuallY
[22:13] <loa> is it bad?
[22:13] <jhutchins> loa: Something about how the game is handling graphics.  They often do things that they're not supposed to do with hardware.
[22:13] <loa> hmm. such behaviour is only in one game, other work just fine.
[22:18] <loa> jhutchins, maybe you know, what actually compoziting systems do? for examaple compton?
[22:19] <loa> they somehow intercept frames from all applications?
[22:19] <loa> and combine them into one frame?
[22:20] <k1l> !away > Seromania
[22:21] <Seromania> I don't know why it's showing the message, I've unset it. Sorry
[22:26] <Paddy_NI> Has anyone else installed the new hangouts (chat heads) on Ubuntu 14.04; if so has your chat heads got white backgrounds instead of being transparent backgrounds?
[22:26] <Paddy_NI> I would like for it not to look terrible
[22:27] <vivid> can anyone tell me how to STOP ubuntu from renaming my xorg.conf?  14.04......cant use my custom configurations because it keeps renaming my config to xorg.conf.mmddyyyy
[22:29] <loa> vivid, as i remeber there must be somethings like Xorg.d/ where all custom configurations go
[22:29] <loa> but it was long time ago
[22:30] <vivid> loa, and where would that be, its not under /etc/X11
[22:30] <OerHeks> vivid The nvidia-prime package does this on upgrade
[22:30] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1345585
[22:30] <vivid> OerHeks, nvidia-prime:
[22:30] <vivid>   Installed: (none)
[22:32] <loa> vivid, on your service https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[22:35] <CalebW> Hello, my cpu usage is very high, but I don't have anything running that would require so much usage...
[22:36] <bubbasaures> CalebW, run top in the terminal, you can install top and do the same.
[22:37] <bubbasaures> sorry install htop*
[22:37] <coredump> Hey, is it possible to use backportage with universe packages?
[22:37] <CalebW> Wait, I just killed firefox and the usage dropped. But I wasn't doing anything in firefox so why would it be using so much?
[22:37] <JustAgain> uhm
[22:37] <daftykins> CalebW: plugins
[22:38] <trollolol> or some runaway javascript on some loaded website!
[22:38] <OerHeks> maybe bad ram
[22:38] <trollolol> but draftykins is right - plugins is the most likely culprirt to look at first!
[22:39] <daftykins> i'm not drafty, else i'd put a jacket on!
[22:39] <trollolol> OerHeks how would bad ram increase CPU usage?!?
[22:39] <k1l> or: flash. but since the firefox is killed, the issue is solved :)
[22:46] <Fillipe> k1l: now I have ubuntu 14.04 tls, you know the command to run mysql-5.6?
[22:47] <k1l> Fillipe: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.6
[22:48] <Fillipe> k1l: nice! tks man
[22:48] <Ali_M_Ahmed> ali
[22:48] <Ali_M_Ahmed> qweasdzxc
[22:48] <Ali_M_Ahmed> sudo reboot
[22:48] <Ali_M_Ahmed> qweasdzxc
[22:48] <k1l> Ali_M_Ahmed: wrong window
[22:50] <Ali_M_Ahmed> ضصثشسيئءؤ
[22:53] <aako> como desabilito no ubuntu 14.04 o passoword cryptsetup qdo inicializa
[22:53] <aako> ?
[22:53] <k1l> !pt | aako
[22:55] <aako> como desabilito no ubuntu 14.04 o passoword cryptsetup qdo inicializa
[22:56] <aako> opsss
[22:56] <k1l> aako: please write in english in here or change the channel how the bot told you already
[22:58] <schnittchen> hi! i have a weird problem in a very special setup... testing system provisioning in our CI, the recent rsyslogd upgrade hangs when restarting the service
[22:58] <schnittchen> BUT only when executed from the provisioning script, not when I do that by hand.
[22:59] <schnittchen> The provisioning has no controlling terminal, but that does not make the difference. What else could it be?
[23:00] <wetwitch> I've got a question on configuring a new monitor. I've got no monitor detection upon plugging in the hdmi cord, however upon restart I get the following error message
[23:00] <schnittchen> here are the last lines before the hang http://paste.ubuntu.com/8535999/
[23:00] <wetwitch> "Could not switch monitor detection, could not set the configuration for CRTC 64"
[23:01] <daftykins> wetwitch: version of ubuntu?
[23:01] <wetwitch> 14.04
[23:01] <daftykins> wetwitch: graphics card?
[23:02] <wetwitch> not sure
[23:02] <daftykins> wetwitch: can you reach a working state with this system to run some commands? are you using it right now?
[23:03] <wetwitch> i can access the terminal if that is what your asking
[23:04] <daftykins> wetwitch: ok can you install pastebinit and run "lspci | pastebinit" ?
[23:05] <JCT> how do i add a GUI to mupen64plus?
[23:05] <JCT> can't seem to figure it out
[23:05] <JCT> and i can't even figure out how to load a rom on regular UI
[23:05] <JCT> i can start using terminal $ mupen64plus
[23:06] <daftykins> never heard of it, someone might though
[23:06] <eeee> JCT: type mupen[press tab a couple times]
[23:06] <k1l> !info mupen64plus
[23:06] <wetwitch> can i use apt-get to install pastebinit
[23:06] <wetwitch> ?
[23:06] <daftykins> wetwitch: yes
[23:06] <JCT> ....
[23:07] <JCT> lemme try something
[23:08] <JCT> ... nvm
[23:09] <anonymous_> hi
[23:09] <cmd> hi =)
[23:09] <Ali_M_Ahmed> ali
[23:09] <Ali_M_Ahmed> qweasdzxc
[23:10] <daftykins> Ali_M_Ahmed: can you stop that please.
[23:10] <Ali_M_Ahmed> sudo su
[23:10] <anonymous_> stop wot
[23:10] <wetwitch> daftykins: okay i ran it
[23:10] <daftykins> you see how i included a nickname at the start of my sentence? that's who i was talking to
[23:11] <daftykins> wetwitch: you should have a URL to share here
[23:12] <wetwitch> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8536041/
[23:12] <daftykins> wetwitch: is this a laptop?
[23:12] <wetwitch> it is
[23:13] <Guest59464> hi evryone is it possible to dual boot kali linux with ubuntu 14.04 without any problems and what paritions shoud i create ? thanks in advance :)
[23:13] <alex4567> hi
[23:13] <daftykins> wetwitch: ok one more - "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[23:14] <daftykins> Guest59464: no Kali support in here i'm afraid, they have their own channel
[23:14] <wetwitch> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8536071/
[23:14] <Guest59464> yes but i its related to dual booting with the ubuntu i tought i coud get my answers in here ?! :/
[23:14] <MrDask> Hi , can anyone help me with some a problem concerning wifi ?
[23:15] <k1l> Guest59464: dont see why that dualboot should do any issues
[23:16] <Guest59464> i only asked of ignorance but thanks everyone for ur answers im gonna try it then :)
[23:16] <schnittchen> Guest59464: /boot and / need to be separate. don't share /home unless you know what you're doing.
[23:16] <Surendil> schnittchen: algo swap
[23:17] <Surendil> also
[23:17] <schnittchen> try that and work your way up from there.
[23:17] <schnittchen> Gueat59363, Surendil: sharing swap CAN be dangerous when you suspend to disk
[23:18] <schnittchen> (AFAIK)
[23:18] <daftykins> wetwitch: you probably want to install the AMD driver to get better support for that system, it's using hybrid intel + AMD graphics and likely won't function quite right without
[23:18] <ExtraCarpety> I need some help.  I can't connect using SSH or SFTP to a user that has been added to sshusers
[23:18] <Surendil> schnittchen: so you should forget about cache, just in case you suspend session?
[23:19] <Goodspeed> Hi there
[23:19] <daftykins> hi
[23:19] <Goodspeed> I would like to deinstall all X related packages from my system, since I don't need them.. which package could I autoremove to it takes all that junk with it, so that i do not have to reinstall my system? :D
[23:20] <schnittchen> Surendil: I guess bad things happen then STR from one system and resume from another.
[23:20] <schnittchen> what do you mean, cache?
[23:20] <wetwitch> daftykins: okay, thank you for the help! can i install the AMD driver i need from the terminal?
[23:20] <daftykins> wetwitch: probably, run "apt-cache search fglrx" you probably want fglrx-updates
[23:23] <MrDask> Hi , can anyone help me with some a problem concerning wifi  on 14.04 ?
[23:23] <daftykins> MrDask: ask away
[23:23] <joseki> hello everyone. i have a bit of an emergency wanted to get some advice on. doing some work on a mdadm array and have gotten initramfs prompt after rebooting
[23:24] <joseki> i had two drives in raid1 and had to pull one out to do work on and after the reboot this happened. i still have a terminal screen with all the blkid and uuids etc
[23:24] <daftykins> joseki: maybe they're desynced and won't boot until you repair
[23:24] <joseki> i have separate boot and root partitions and it can't find the new root partition: no init found
[23:25] <juiced_> Hi everyone. Does anybody know how to watch for file writes across the whole system. I'm only trying to get a list of filenames that have had writes to them, so not needing a diff analysis or anything complex. Is lsof usable for this?
[23:25] <joseki> i did this same operation on an identical system, same steps, so there is some subtle difference here
[23:25] <MrDask> all right , someone gave me their old compaq laptop cause it won't connect to wifi .. it was hard blocked and i messed around a bit with the ath5k ... i'm at a point where with a combination of pressing the wifi button and a few tries of wlan0 up and scan will sometimes work ... but it is too unstable
[23:26] <daftykins> MrDask: most atheros stuff works out of the box now, what version of ubuntu is on this?
[23:26] <joseki> anyways, any ideas on how to proceeed?
[23:26] <MrDask> 14.04
[23:29] <daftykins> joseki: boot a live session, install mdadm packages to provide support then check the status of the volumes
[23:29] <acerspyro> Hm. Stuck at the timezone selection screen in the install. The "Continue" button stays grayed out.
[23:30] <daftykins> joseki: what 'work' did you perform on one of the two disks though?
[23:30] <acerspyro> omg fast my disk drive sounds like a dying baby pigeon.
[23:31] <monkwitdafunk> There is a command to get network time protocol
[23:33] <acerspyro> monkwitdafunk: Well, it won't let me proceed.
[23:33] <acerspyro> nvm
[23:33] <acerspyro> Was bugged
[23:33] <acerspyro> Selected another random region.
[23:34] <acerspyro> Will end this install with a good headache. Fricking DVD drive.
[23:34] <stevendumani> hi, I'm trying to use xrdp on ubuntu 14.04. the "fallback" session is now called "flashback" what should I use instead of this line?
[23:34] <stevendumani> $ echo "gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback" > .xsession
[23:34] <joseki> i failed a drive out of an array and the repartitioned the failed drive. i needed to reboot to make the partition changes effective and then i was going to resync
[23:35] <acerspyro> ok, it won't accept Montreal, which is misspelt as Mont-Real
[23:35] <joseki> is a live session needed, or can i boot into recovery from grub?
[23:36] <joseki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8536152/ <- last logs on my serial console
[23:37] <Doc-Saintly> Is there an easy way to connect to wifi through comand line? :( can't I just say SSID / Pass? All the guides I see online are more complex than that
[23:38] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: if you want it easy use the network manager gui
[23:38] <Doc-Saintly> ikonia: don't have the GUI, seems like there has to be a method between a GUI and typing my password in binary ;)
[23:38] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: it's not as simple as "ifconfig wlan0 SSID=blah pass=boo"
[23:38] <Doc-Saintly> why not >.<
[23:38] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: is there a reason you're not using the gui ?
[23:38] <kostkon> Doc-Saintly, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Using_NetworkManager_on_the_command_line
[23:39] <zteam> ikonia, he is probably using Ubuntu server or someething
[23:39] <Doc-Saintly> yes
[23:39] <ikonia> zteam:....with a wireless card....
[23:39] <Mirbuntu> #opensuse-chat
[23:39] <ikonia> you can put a gui on a server install
[23:39] <Mirbuntu> damnit
[23:39] <Mirbuntu> <.<
[23:40] <Mirbuntu> >.>
[23:40]  * Mirbuntu runs away
[23:40] <zteam> ikonia, what would the problem with that be?
[23:40] <ikonia> or even better, just use a desktop install
[23:40] <ikonia> zteam: no problem with it, just not the norm
[23:40] <ikonia> more so if configuring the wireless card outside of network manager it outside of your current knowledge range
[23:41] <Doc-Saintly> ikonia: I'm not opposed to learning, but that doesn't mean I won't ask the question "Why are we forced to do ti this way"
[23:41] <zteam> ikonia, maybe not, but why using a a ethernet cable if you don't have to
[23:41] <zteam> ikonia, :-)
[23:41] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: because there is more to confiugring a wireless card than a username and password
[23:41] <ikonia> and a sid
[23:41] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: and linux splits the interface configuration and wireless stack into two seperate processes
[23:42] <Doc-Saintly> ikonia: I'm well aware of that, and yet somehow, a GUI can do it with just that - which shows that it's possible to figure it out
[23:42] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: yes, the gui does the 2 processes for you
[23:42] <Doc-Saintly> but apparently enough people don't complain about it or just deal with it, and use these cumbersome config files
[23:42] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: and network manager can do it on the command line
[23:42] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: it's not cumversome, it's 3 lines on top of the additonal network config
[23:42] <ikonia> which considering it's managing two processes is nothing
[23:43] <k1l> Doc-Saintly: there are very good GUI programs and no one runs a server on wifi. so there are some cli methods but not the most easy ones as you would like
[23:45] <monkwitdafunk> Acerspyro, try tzdata if you cannot ask for ntp or uninstall every module you do not need
[23:45] <Doc-Saintly> yea, I wouldn't be using server if lubuntu wasn't down. I was going to use xubuntu but saw that even it had a 750 MB memory footprint
[23:45] <ikonia> lubuntu down ?
[23:45] <k1l> Doc-Saintly: hmm, can you rephrase? that doesnt make sense to me at all
[23:45] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: in what way is lubuntu "down" ? the website ?
[23:45] <ikonia> 750mb foot print on xubuntu ?
[23:46] <Doc-Saintly> ikonia: when I tried to access the website last night do download the iso, it wasn't responding
[23:46] <monkwitdafunk> I hear of a antimalware company using lubuntu to fix wintel systems that have malware
[23:46] <ikonia> I've run it in about 300mb
[23:46] <acerspyro> monkwitdafunk: nvm, install failed, it says something's wrong with my DVD
[23:46] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: it's up now
[23:46] <Doc-Saintly> ikonia: I did a fresh install and it was showing 750 :(
[23:46] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: I doubt that
[23:46] <Doc-Saintly> basically, this is all for a dom0 under xen. And it's just a testing lab
[23:46] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: I suspect you've seen caching
[23:46] <Doc-Saintly> ikonia: well, it wouldn't be the first time you've made lots of assumptions that I've seen today ;)
[23:46] <acerspyro> Oh, man, I am so happy this install crashed.
[23:46] <acerspyro> That fricking disk drive.
[23:46] <zteam> ikonia, threre is lxde too, if RAM is your issue
[23:46] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: it would be
[23:47] <ikonia> Doc-Saintly: I've not made any assumptions
[23:47] <joseki> looks like the uuid might have somehow changed. is there a way to modify BOOT_IMAGE and then tell initramfs to try and boot?
[23:47] <k1l> Doc-Saintly: lubuntu hp works fine
[23:47] <Doc-Saintly> zteam: I was the one mentioning wanting the thinner client.
[23:47] <acerspyro> Btw, imma DD the .iso on my iPod shuffle
[23:47] <zteam> ikonia, sorry that was meant to Doc-Saintly
[23:47] <Doc-Saintly> yep, it seems to be up just fine now
[23:47] <ikonia> zteam: not a problem
[23:47] <zteam> Doc-Saintly, sorry, that was meant for you :-)
[23:47] <Doc-Saintly> zteam: yep, figured ;)
[23:47] <Doc-Saintly> zteam: the reason I didn't go with LXDE is I want a newer kernel
[23:48] <k1l> Doc-Saintly: http://askubuntu.com/questions/417935/what-are-the-command-line-alternatives-to-network-manager-nm-cli-wicd-wicd-c  http://askubuntu.com/questions/493888/how-can-i-configure-network-manager-via-command-line-to-only-ever-connect-to-a
[23:48] <ikonia> lxde is a desktop
[23:48] <ikonia> it has nothing to do with the kernel
[23:48] <zteam> Doc-Saintly, I'm a little bit tired now :p
[23:48] <Doc-Saintly> ikonia: er, yea sorry - i was thinking linux mint LXDE
[23:48] <ikonia> that makes no sense
[23:48] <k1l> Doc-Saintly: but you seem to be mixing a lot of things here.
[23:48] <Doc-Saintly> thanks k1l , looking into it
[23:49] <zteam> Doc-Saintly, how do you mean? the kernel hasn't anything to do with desktop enviroment
[23:49] <joseki> ok
[23:49] <Doc-Saintly> zteam: indeed, but as I said, I was mixing up Linux Mint LXDE with the idea of installing my own desktop environment
[23:49] <joseki> so now i've mounted the proper root partition in /root
[23:50] <Doc-Saintly> and when I looked at LM LXDE it was using an older kernel (IIRC, but it was 2 am)
[23:50] <k1l> Doc-Saintly: or get your Lubuntu iso here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/
[23:50] <k1l> Doc-Saintly: and since you seem to want to customize a lot you should think about making a minimal install and then install your DE
[23:51] <zteam> Doc-Saintly, okey, otherwise you can just ran sudo apt-get install tasksel and then run sudo tasksel and choose lxde desktop
[23:51] <Doc-Saintly> yea, or the site appears to be working now. Well, honestly, all this is more pain than I feel like putting up with thus far. The whole point of getting a newer kernel is so I can use the wireless card in the cases I don't have a hard connection
[23:51] <eeee> joseki: you have a seperate /root ?
[23:52] <joseki> yes
[23:52] <Doc-Saintly> and I don't want to install a GUI just to do the wireless because it's just a once or twice thing, I just expected it to be easier
[23:52] <monkwitdafunk> Will ubuntu trusty always be using kernel 3.13?
[23:52] <joseki> i have mounted / into /root (as this seems to be what initramfs does
[23:52] <Doc-Saintly> anyway, thanks for the suggestions all. I'm going to step away from this before I do something stupid like start using Hyper-V
[23:53] <k1l> monkwitdafunk: you can get a new kernel with the enablement stack
[23:53] <joseki> mdadm is available in initramfs and shows my array with the failed drive
[23:53] <monkwitdafunk> Trusty uses kernel 3.13 right? what if i wanted to stay with.kernel 3.13?
[23:53] <k1l> monkwitdafunk: just stay on 14.04
[23:54] <monkwitdafunk> no. Trusty is r
[23:54] <joseki> i'm not sure what to do next now i guess
[23:54] <monkwitdafunk> Using 3.13
[23:54] <eeee> monkwitdafunk: you could look into apt_preferences ( man apt_preferences )
[23:54] <monkwitdafunk> precise uses 3.5
[23:54] <joseki> but /root is what i want to be booting off of
[23:54] <k1l> monkwitdafunk: please get the facts straight. you asked for 3.13
[23:55] <monkwitdafunk> i want my lan to have a homogenious kernel and grml in addition to knoppix is great
[23:56] <littlebrillo> I'm trying to use VNC with vino-server on utopic beta, UltraVNC client. The client connects but the screen doesn't update after the first paint.
[23:58] <acerspyro> is it alright if I simply DD my 64-bit ISO to my USB drive?
[23:58] <littlebrillo> I can click on things though there's nothing apparently happening, but if I close and reopen the connection, it shows the windows I opened. Inputs are working, it just isn't showing any changes.
[23:59] <zteam> Doc-Saintly, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo#Using_the_command_Line
[23:59] <Ben64> littlebrillo: #ubuntu+1 until release
[23:59] <littlebrillo> ah, thanks


[00:21] <dtchen> bdrung: can you reproduce #438065 in a fully updated Karmic? i no longer can.
[00:23] <bdrung> dtchen: will test it
[00:23] <dtchen> bdrung: thanks
[00:23] <bdrung> dtchen: did you test it after a clean boot?
[00:23] <dtchen> bdrung: absolutely
[00:24] <dtchen> it took about two hours to fully update, but it was worth it
[00:27] <bdrung> dtchen: how slow it your internet connection?
[00:28] <dtchen> not very, but pulling about 170 MB of updates from us.archive takes a very long time
[00:28] <dtchen> it's getting better now, though
[00:37] <bdrung> dtchen: btw, thanks for your work done in pulseaudio. it is getting better (in karmic i can use it on my desktop system)
[00:51] <jgjones> Hello
[00:51] <jgjones> maybe I'm being thick here but I can't see where I can enter a new bug on Launchpad
[00:51] <jgjones> for Karmic Koala
[00:53] <yofel> jgjones: use the report a bug function in the specific app or 'ubuntu-bug <packagename>' from the command line
[01:18] <bdrung_> dtchen: tested and it works here, too
[10:59] <dholbach> bug jammers, please add yourselves to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Events
[11:02] <keidesu00> hello
[11:02] <keidesu00> anyone?
[12:14] <Mez> Brummie Bugjam Broadcast is now available http://autoview.autotrain.org/mod/autoview/view.php?id=31 <-- actually working now
[13:05] <james_w> dholbach: say hi to Murphy from me :-)
[13:36] <dholbach> hey james_w :)
[13:36] <dholbach> james_w: will do :)
[13:52] <thekorn> hi, greetings to the jammers around the world :)
[13:56] <qense> is the jam today?
[13:57] <thekorn> qense: this weekend
[13:58] <qense> good!
[13:58] <qense> I hope it will be a good one. Good luck to everyone, in that case!
[15:18] <ebroder> If we're doing a bug jam today, what's the best way to find the bugs that are most important to fix? Just searching LP for critical/high priority?
[16:11] <blue-frog> hi, I can't find the submit bug button on launchpad.net. is it disabled for a while?
[16:13] <dtchen> ebroder: milestoned against [9.10] RC or final, yes
[16:21] <blue-frog> how does one submit a bug on launchpad.net, please?
[16:21] <dtchen> blue-frog: are you logged in?
[16:21] <blue-frog> yes
[16:22] <blue-frog> not the first time I report a bug but today ther's no way to submit a ne bug
[16:22] <dtchen> blue-frog: for certain packages, ubuntu-bug is preferable
[16:22] <dtchen> blue-frog: which package is affected here?
[16:22] <blue-frog> touchpad on a eeepc
[16:23] <blue-frog> so I don't know what program is managing that
[16:23] <blue-frog> hence can't give ubuntu-bug a PID
[16:24] <dtchen> blue-frog: what's the output from: lshal|egrep -i '(synaptics|alps)'
[16:24] <blue-frog> nothing
[16:25] <dtchen> blue-frog: will you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please?
[16:26] <dtchen> blue-frog: BTW, the canonical link is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/+login
[16:26] <dtchen> err, without the /+login
[16:26] <dtchen> blue-frog: if you're looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu , it's on the trailing vertical side in the pane marked "Get Involved"
[16:28] <hggdh> er, currently you must add '?no-redirect' to the end of the URL
[16:29] <blue-frog> dtchen: http://pastebin.com/d2ab22550
[16:32] <blue-frog> dtchen: in the get involved pane, the report a bug link is not "submit a new bug"
[16:35] <blue-frog> ok I have the page to report a new bug. Has it changed to confuse the ennemy?
[16:38] <viperhoot> a question: ehre package is related to this problem?? : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30033596/Screenshot.png ?
[16:39] <viperhoot> I'm not very sure :S
[16:40] <matti> ;]
[16:41] <dtchen> blue-frog: right, it's "Report a bug". Feel free to correct any outdated/incorrect documentation.
[16:42] <dtchen> viperhoot: is the symptom reproducible with a brand new/fresh user?
[16:42] <viperhoot> it's Netbook Remix 9.04 with the default theme and no major changes to the default install.
[16:43] <viperhoot> dtchen, ;)
[16:43] <dtchen> viperhoot: i suspect it's a driver issue and/or memory corruption
[16:43] <dtchen> can you test the 20091003 iso of karmic-netbook-remix?
[16:44] <viperhoot> dtchen, this is the bug report: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/410519
[16:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 410519 in ubuntu ""Create launcher" window has black background in Netbook Remix" [Undecided,New]
[16:45] <dtchen> blue-frog: you're not running current Karmic, BTW
[16:45] <dtchen> blue-frog: please update fully, reboot, and attempt to reproduce the symptom
[16:45] <blue-frog> I do. beta updated as of today
[16:45] <dtchen> blue-frog: no, really, you're not. Your kernel is 2.6.31-11.36, which is outdated. The current one is 2.6.31-11.38.
[16:45] <blue-frog> rebooting once more to check then
[16:45] <blue-frog> ok updating then
[16:45] <dtchen> blue-frog: be aware that it takes some mirrors longer to sync
[16:47] <blue-frog> dtchen what mirror would be likely to be up to date, if you have the info by chance?
[16:48] <dtchen> blue-frog: i always use us.archive.ubuntu.com, but be aware that it's hammered right now
[16:49] <blue-frog> sure midday in the states following release of beta...
[16:49] <blue-frog> nl seems to have some more update
[16:49] <ebroder> dtchen: How do I find bugs milestoned to 9.10 RC/final? The only Karmic-related milestones I see on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1 are "Ubuntu ubuntu-9.10" and "Ubuntu karmic-updates"
[16:51] <dtchen> ebroder: ubuntu-9.10 should be fine
[16:52] <dtchen> blue-frog: also, you're likely looking at xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and linux
[16:53] <blue-frog> dtchen: ok. upgrading right now, reboot in a sec. then I'll see what's going on
[17:01] <blue-frog> dtchen: hum. xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is not installed in the netbook remix edition. sounds right?
[17:06] <dtchen> blue-frog: it should be. it's listed in the manifest here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/20091003/karmic-netbook-remix-i386.manifest
[17:06] <blue-frog> dtchen: ok think I know what happen. I installed the base system first then ubuntu netbook remix from tasksel. must be a glitch there
[17:18] <blue-frog> dtchen: and indeed once xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is installed touchpad is working as desired. ty for your time
[17:20] <dtchen> blue-frog: np.
[19:16] <greg-g> Hey, curious why this apport reported bug did not have a package assigned: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/441330
[19:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 441330 in ubuntu "[ASUSTeK Computer Inc. F5RL] suspend/resume failure" [Undecided,New]
[19:34] <Rocket2DMn> greg-g, i wonder if the user removed the package when filing the bug, it should be filed against linux
[20:00] <andresmujica> en 5 min arranca clase de bug triaging en #ubuntu-classroom-es  (in spanish)
[20:25] <Guest87221> hello, i have a problem with my sound. when an application wants audio or after some time i hear a "pop" sound. i found a forum post where it was said that this happens when the sound card driver goes into sleep and that a bug should be filled against that driver. anyone has some advice on how to collect usefull information neccesary for such a bug?
[20:37] <jmarsden> Guest87221: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems  may be useful?
[20:39] <greg-g> Rocket2DMn: yeah, figured. We at the jam here in Michigan have come across a couple of them so far like that (sorry, dont' have other links for them)
[20:39] <Guest87221> @jmardsen ill take a look at that, thanks
[20:40] <Rocket2DMn> greg-g, you guys can certainly assign the bugs to the correct package yourselves
[20:40] <Rocket2DMn> if you ever have questions about which package, just ask
[20:41] <greg-g> Rocket2DMn: oh of course, just wondering why some look like it just didn't have a package assigned by apport (no record of them being unassigned)
[20:42] <Rocket2DMn> yeah greg-g , must have happened while they were filing the bug
[20:47] <MagicFab> Hi all - I am trying to find where "Incomplete" assignment is documented.
[20:47] <MagicFab> AFAIK when someone asks a question to the bug reporter, it becomes "incomplete, assigned to reporter" but I can't find a reference to that
[20:48] <MagicFab> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Assignment is rather short on that subject :)
[20:50] <Guest87221> jmarsden: the link didnt help much in solving the problem, but was a great start for the bug report. thanks
[20:50] <jmarsden> No problem.
[20:52] <dtchen> Guest87221: i gave instructions for filing bugs in my post to ubuntu-devel{,-discuss}
[20:54] <dtchen> Guest87221: if you haven't located it, it's at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2009-May/008239.html
[20:56] <Guest87221> ok, i allready filed a bug using ubuntu-bug -p alsa-base but didnt name it power_save=10 as this doesnt happen after 10 secs from my testings.
[20:57] <dtchen> it's precisely because we enabled powerdown for your controller and codec
[20:57] <dtchen> you likely have one of conexant, realtek, or analog devices
[20:57] <dtchen> but not idt/sigmatel; we've fixed that
[20:58] <Guest87221> i think i have an intel
[20:58] <dtchen> well, that's the generic name, but that isn't what i'm referring to
[20:59] <dtchen> intel is just a brand name; it says next to nothing about the actual controller or codec
[20:59] <Guest87221> Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
[20:59] <Guest87221> or what information you need?
[21:00] <dtchen> the information i need is in your bug report
[21:00] <dtchen> that lspci line is pretty useless
[21:01] <Guest87221> ok, sry
[21:01] <dtchen> no worries
[21:01] <Guest87221> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/441661
[21:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 441661 in alsa-driver "sound "pops" "clicks"" [Undecided,New]
[21:02] <dtchen> heads-up, bugsquad/bugcontrol: those powerdown bugs should be triaged against linux _not_ alsa-driver
[21:04] <dtchen> again, this is pretty clearly stated at the top of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[21:04] <yofel> dtchen: you mean those clicks when turning the sound card on/off ?
[21:04] <dtchen> yofel: yes
[21:04] <yofel> ok
[21:07] <mercutio22> hello there.
[21:08] <Guest87221> ubuntu-bug -P alsa-base did that
[21:08] <dtchen> Guest87221: yes, i know. the note is for people going back and triaging bug reports
[21:08] <mercutio22> I em testing karmic here. I think a new bug was introduced with the latest round of upgrade. Compiz won' t start and the UNR interface is much slower
[21:08] <dtchen> too many people blithely re-triage them to affect alsa-driver incorrectly
[21:09] <mercutio22> I just filed a bug. I was wondering if other people can confirm that
[21:09] <yofel> mercutio22: bug number?
[21:09] <Guest87221> ic
[21:10] <mercutio22> yofel Bug #441683
[21:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 441683 in compiz "compiz fails to load after latest karmic (beta) upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/441683
[22:24] <intruder1> hi there
[22:26] <yofel> hi intruder1
[23:03] <Mez> for those who didnt see it - my video of my presentation from earlier is @ http://www.sourceguru.org/videos/7/
[23:03] <intruder1> see you
[23:03] <intruder1> bye