[10:08] <doubletwist> radio: in order to install alien, you need either use Synaptic [available in the menus somewhere, I forget :) ]  or use a terminal window [like the DOS prompt]
[10:08] <Ramzies> soundray thanks
[10:08] <r0bby_> somebody should explain that linux doesn't execute windows/dos apps
[10:08] <shadow> buso, asking again, the bug in Dapper, which results in 7 floppies showing, how can i fix it, i removed all extras from fstab and /media...but still nothing changes...i even tried my fsta from Breezy...nothing worked, still show 7 unmountable floppies
[10:08] <MadRush> okay shoot me for newbism but can i install a i386 package on my x86_64 system?
[10:08] <analfabeta_> hi! how can i listen mp3 in kubuntu drapper?
[10:08] <soundray> r0bby_ we're past that stage.
[10:09] <doubletwist> arrick Doh my bad... just install gxine
[10:09] <tristanmike> !dapper
[10:09] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:09] <duelboot> ernz:  go read this   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:09] <doubletwist> radio if you use the terminal, the command to install alien is [without the quotes]  "sudo apt-get install alien"
[10:09] <MisterN> hi
[10:09] <arrick> I tried 'sudo apt-get install gxine' and no such animal
[10:09] <Kyral> Mhe anyone know a good graphing program
[10:09] <analfabeta_> !mp3
[10:09] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:10] <r0bby_> to search a list of packages you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:10] <doubletwist> arrick Hrm... maybe it's just in universe? Can't remember now
[10:10] <Kyral> I really don't wanna use MSOffice
[10:10] <r0bby_> it's really neat :)
[10:10] <arrick> how do I find it?
[10:10] <r0bby_> it'll tell you what repository it's in
[10:10] <doubletwist> arrick I know it work for me though :)
[10:10] <arrick> google?
[10:10] <soundray> Kyral: I've tried a lot of them, stuck with gnumeric in the end.
[10:11] <eggzeck> arrick, apt-cache :)
[10:11] <Heroin> hi
[10:11] <eggzeck> arrick, apt-cache search xine
[10:11] <doubletwist> arrick: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gxine&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[10:11] <deizi> anyone? i have some problems with azuerus/kubuntu... when i try to open ports, it says it's in use etc.
[10:11] <Kyral> soundray: given a spreadsheet, can it graph a best-fit line?
[10:12] <JoeMorris> do you u bun tu
[10:12] <talentumprotalen> hello fellow ubuntians
[10:12] <talentumprotalen> i bun too
[10:12] <Heroin> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop, but if i want to upgrade do i chance it to kubuntu-base kubuntu-desktop?
[10:12] <soundray> Kyral: it has a linest function if that's what you mean.
[10:12] <doubletwist> Heroin I think you just need to use kubuntu-desktop
[10:13] <Heroin> ubuntu base is universal?
[10:13] <MadRush> yesh
[10:13] <Kyral> yah
[10:13] <Heroin> ah ok.. thank you
[10:13] <doubletwist> Heroin it is depended on b kubuntu-desktop so it will install automatically.
[10:13] <Kyral> ouch
[10:13] <gnomefreak> wont ubuntu-desktop bring  in ubuntu-base?
[10:13] <Heroin> ubuntu-desktop is gnome which i despise
[10:13] <ubuntu> hello
[10:14] <MadRush> kubuntu-desktop is ... kde
[10:14] <doubletwist> Heroin I use xubuntu-desktop [XFCE]  which I love :)
[10:14] <ubuntu> oh well
[10:14] <gnomefreak> Heroin: ok kubuntu-desktop should bring in kde-base
[10:14] <Kyral> the Desktop packages all depend on Ubuntu-base and -minimal
[10:14] <michoelc> hi all. i was here a few hours ago, i cant get xserver to start after i installed ubuntu. how do i fimnd out what my video card is etc to do the sudo xserver reconfigure. thanks
[10:14] <Cyorxamp> Hi, I want to install my printer... how do I do that?
[10:14] <Cyorxamp> !printer
[10:14] <ubotu> printer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[10:14] <Cyorxamp> Ah ha!
[10:14] <talentumprotalen> i prefer kde to gnome so i bet ku**** is great? scale of 1 to 10?
[10:15] <eggzeck> I prefer gnome :)
[10:15] <arrick> dou
[10:15] <doubletwist> michoelc Try "lspci" can give you a clue as to what video card is installed. Or dmesg |more
[10:15] <jadams> I prefer gnome
[10:15] <hostello> Hi, how can I get some plug-ins to view mpeg files?
[10:15] <jadams> I didn't like kubuntu in breezy
[10:15] <doubletwist> michoelc Last resort, open the case and look at the video card :)
[10:15] <jadams> haven't tried it in dapper
[10:15] <eggzeck> that's two for gnome :)
[10:15] <MadRush> i only use kde because i sat down one day and had to decide which to remove to free up space
[10:15] <chuckyp> !tell hostello about restricted
[10:15] <arrick> doubletwist, do I want the i386 or the powerpc user version?
[10:15] <MadRush> if your on an intel computer i386
[10:15] <MadRush> if your on a mac powerpc
[10:15] <doubletwist> arrick powerpc will only be if you're on a mac
[10:15] <Eleaf> hi
[10:15] <talentumprotalen> gnome i definitely do not "despise" but i like power over my verbosity
[10:16] <Heroin> i dont know.. i just really dont like using gnome
[10:16] <chuckyp> They're both the same
[10:16] <talentumprotalen> which gnome attempts to snag from me (chuckle)
[10:16] <arrick> ok
[10:16] <doubletwist> arrick But as long as the universe entries in /etc/apt/sources.list are uncommented [and you then run apt-get update]  then apt-get install gxine should work fine.
[10:16] <__filip_> Somebody know how to get utf-8 in gnome-commander?
[10:16] <talentumprotalen> i dont know if id go that far. similiar but not the same
[10:17] <ravioli> hi, xmms does not work on my ubuntu. it says "check that 1. your sound card is configured properly etc."
[10:17] <chuckyp> Its all the same the are becomming closer and closer together.  I prefere gnome just because I like they less bells and whistles look.  Also once you see the speed of 2.14 you will agree.
[10:17] <MadRush> i dont prefer either, i just use kde because i needed to pick one
[10:17] <sfar-ubu> how do i get gdesklets to start automatically when i log in to x?
[10:18] <chuckyp> sfar-ubu, add it to .gnomerc if you are using gnome
[10:18] <soundray> sfar-ubu: System-Preferences-Session
[10:18] <arrick> ok
[10:18] <ravioli> however, sounds work on another account.
[10:18] <ravioli> any ideas, anyone?
[10:18] <arrick> doubletwist, I forgot about that on this install
[10:18] <soundray> ravioli: sudo adduser ravioli audio
[10:18] <chuckyp> sfar-ubu, or soundray's way
[10:18] <doubletwist> ravioli Maybe you need to add the user to audio
[10:18] <doubletwist> the audio group
[10:18] <sfar-ubu> :) thank yous
[10:18] <doubletwist> yeah what soundray said.
[10:19] <michoelc> doubletwist: what it says im pretty sure is what it detected in the reconfigure. but still a blank screen. where else could the problem be? or is it maybe diff and i should try what u say and open the case?
[10:19] <scoopex> how can i play dvds with xine on ubuntu ? it seems that xine doesn`t know how to handle dvds, do i need to install some libraries ?
[10:20] <lullabud> !dvd
[10:20] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[10:20] <doubletwist> michoelc Check /var/log/Xorg.log.0 [I think that's the filename] . Near the end of that file it might give clues as to why it isn't displaying.
[10:20] <soundray> michoelc: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Towards the end of the file, you may see an error message...
[10:20] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell scoopex about restricted
[10:21] <soundray> doubletwist: you overtook me in mid-sentence. :)
[10:21] <Cyorxamp> Ok... so my Lexmark I3 is not listed in the list - now what?
[10:21] <doubletwist> hehe
[10:21] <doubletwist> I've been chatting online for 15 years.. I've had a lot of practice.
[10:21] <doubletwist> Lexmark? My condolences.
[10:21] <Heroin> 15years!?
[10:22] <Heroin> so u used talk and stuff?
[10:22] <Cyorxamp> doubletwist - this ones actually rather nice
[10:22] <doubletwist> hehe Well I started on local BBS's.
[10:22] <Cyorxamp> it's -not- a top loader
[10:22] <chs_> irc is ~15 years old
[10:22] <snoopy_> i have a default installation of ubuntu 5.10 breezy and it does not put /home in a seperate partition (correct?) and i was wondering if i could change that now and put it on a separate partition so i dont lose anything when updating etc..
[10:22] <davidmoore83> my cdrom is not being recognised how can i make sure its mounted and recognised?
[10:22] <gustavo__> estoy intentando installar kde
[10:22] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp My problem with them is the highly proprietary nature of Lexmark itself.
[10:22] <arrick> doubletwist, helps if i updat apt-get at the same time right?
[10:22] <Cyorxamp> doubletwist - Ah I see
[10:22] <doubletwist> snoopy_ Yes you can do that.
[10:22] <talentumprotalen> telnet
[10:22] <doubletwist> arrick Yes
[10:22] <Cyorxamp> So much for dapper :S
[10:23] <chuckyp> doubletwist, bbs's rocked I remembered a local one the other day went hunting around for it sadly its long gone.  but I found references to it on the net.  I should write the owner that I want my 5$ lifetime membership fee back.
[10:23] <arrick> doubletwist, o I need to restart apt-get as well after the update?
[10:23] <doubletwist> snoopy_ Well maybe you can do that...
[10:23] <ravioli> soundray: ok now i got some sound.. so the mixer works. still no success with xmms
[10:23] <davidmoore83> FAILED - could not access cdrom:
[10:23] <davidmoore83> Either create a symbolic link /dev/cdrom pointing to your cdrom device or set your cdrom device in the preferences dialog.
[10:23] <Cyorxamp> Think I'm gonna have to go bad to windows folks - I can't abandon my new printer
[10:23] <doubletwist> arrick uh, what do you mean?
[10:23] <michoelc> k checked that log. ends of as follows: mouse configuration sucessfulll. then a bunch of warning about font renderners alllready registered.
[10:23] <Cyorxamp> Software should work for hardware - not other way around
[10:23] <talentumprotalen> Windows! Noooo.
[10:23] <Cyorxamp> Sorry!
[10:23] <Cyorxamp> lol
[10:23] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp I agree. But Lexmark won't let it
[10:23] <talentumprotalen> say it aint so (wink)
[10:23] <soundray> ravioli: configure xmms to use esd sound output. Better yet, use beep-media-player instead :)
[10:23] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp Which is why I hate Lexmark.
[10:23] <chuckyp> talentumprotalen, what do you want to do?
[10:23] <tristanmike> Cyorxamp: how new...? returnable? :P
[10:24] <Cyorxamp> I aint much for them but this model was cheap and it didn't have the quality that most lexmarks did - top loading
[10:24] <Cyorxamp> it's like a set-top box - fits underneath my pc :P
[10:24] <arrick> doubletwist, after the update, is it done or do I somehow have to restart the spt-get program?
[10:24] <Heroin> sorry to ask another qeustion, but when i dist-upgrade it doesnt install a new gnome right?
[10:24] <talentumprotalen> im just goofin around i know well the necessity for microsoft at times.
[10:24] <doubletwist> snoopy_ If you have another HD that you can use, then you can. But just resizing the partitions on a single HD to do that, I think it is possible, but beyond my knowledge.
[10:24] <davidmoore83> FAILED - could not access cdrom:
[10:24] <davidmoore83> Either create a symbolic link /dev/cdrom pointing to your cdrom device or set your cdrom device in the preferences dialog.
[10:24] <tristanmike> Heroin: yes it does, if you're upgrading
[10:24] <doubletwist> arrick No, once the apt-get update is complete, you're ready to go.
[10:24] <arrick> ok
[10:24] <arrick> thanks
[10:24] <arrick> davidmoore83, morning
[10:24] <Heroin> tristanmike does it get gnome if i dont have it installed?
[10:25] <nillax> what linux distro would you guys recommend for a SOHO router/web server/db server?
[10:25] <vladuz976> what's a good cd ripper to mp3 ?
[10:25] <Cyorxamp> Call me stupid but.... Network Driver wrapper - ok plausable (and done).... a graphics card one - veeery difficult.... but surely a windows printer driver wrapper should not be hard?!
[10:25] <davidmoore83> arrick: evening
[10:25] <tristanmike> Heroin: i wouldn't think so
[10:25] <soundray> vladuz976: abcde
[10:25] <Heroin> nillax for my webserver i did a debian net install, and then loaded it with apache and such
[10:25] <tristanmike> Heroin: you mean if you installed Kubuntu and removed Ubuntu ?
[10:25] <Swedish_Chef> argh
[10:25] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp Dunno, I'm not a programmer.
[10:25] <arrick> davidmoore83, I forgot you were north of me not east or west
[10:25] <Swedish_Chef> my scroll wheel has become hypersensitive lately...
[10:25] <Heroin> well i did a server install of ubuntu, iam not installing KDE-desktop, and iam then going to dist upgrade :P
[10:25] <chuckyp> Ubuntu needs a net install
[10:26] <Heroin> not = now*
[10:26] <davidmoore83> you got a solution to my cdrom issue arrick?
[10:26] <nillax> heroin..do you have any thoughs on FreeBSD?
[10:26] <Swedish_Chef> clicking it once when i have something in buffer will paste it 3-4 times instead of just once
[10:26] <arrick> didnt catch it
[10:26] <ravioli> soundray: i have oss driver, esound output , disk writer  and alsa output. esound is the choice of the day?
[10:26] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp I have a very nice Brother HL-1440 laser printer that works GREAT in linux. I think you can get them for < $100 now.
[10:26] <Swedish_Chef> is there any way to configure that?
[10:26] <arrick> whats your issue?
[10:26] <Heroin> chuckyp , Server install is a net install
[10:26] <davidmoore83> arrick: FAILED - could not access cdrom:
[10:26] <davidmoore83> Either create a symbolic link /dev/cdrom pointing to your cdrom device or set your cdrom device in the preferences dialog.
[10:26] <chuckyp> Heroin, it still copies packages from the cd.
[10:26] <Heroin> ah ok :S
[10:26] <arrick> hang on, check you fstab, or heve you mounted it?
[10:26] <nillax> I have a brother HL-1440...I found it on the street...works great
[10:26] <chuckyp> Heroin, i'm talking about a complete net install dl'ng any package needed.
[10:26] <Heroin> then a net install would be usefull
[10:26] <vladuz976> soundray: what?
[10:26] <void^> 24.5 fps in glxgears :(
[10:27] <tristanmike> Heroin: then you should be good to go, I wouldn't think that it would install anything that you don't already have installed unless it's a dependency
[10:27] <chuckyp> Heroin, like the debian netinstall.  Like the 9mb mini-iso
[10:27] <Heroin> chuckyp yes that would be awsome
[10:27] <Cyorxamp> doubletwist - I got this one (new) for 30 including postage off eBay
[10:27] <michoelc> soundray: u got anyother suggestions?
[10:27] <soundray> ravioli: try that. Alternatively alsa, but then you should disable esd in System-Prefs-Sound
[10:27] <soundray> vladuz976: abcde
[10:27] <soundray> !info abcde
[10:27] <ubotu> abcde: (A Better CD Encoder), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 2.2.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 74 kB, Installed size: 228 kB
[10:27] <doubletwist> nillax Yeah, I bought mine when they were like $140 new [and even that was CHEAP then] ... I've gotten my money's worth out of it. Had it for like 3 yrs now.
[10:27] <vladuz976> soundray: moron?
[10:28] <nillax> i got this PC i using now from the trash too
[10:28] <soundray> vladuz976: did you or did you not want to know about a program for encoding CDs?
[10:28] <nismo> Im trying to watch a video using firefox, i have the mplayer plugin but i cant seem to view it, any suggestions?
[10:28] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp You might get some clues to using the Lexmark at http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/lex.html
[10:28] <chuckyp> nismo, you need to install the codecs for whatever stream it is
[10:28] <chuckyp> !tell nismo about restricted
[10:28] <vladuz976> soundray: what is abcde supposed to be?
[10:28] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp Looksl ike a few lexmark models have drivers for linux directly from lexmark?
[10:28] <soundray> !info abcde
[10:28] <ubotu> abcde: (A Better CD Encoder), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 2.2.6-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 74 kB, Installed size: 228 kB
[10:28] <Cyorxamp> do they!?
[10:28] <nismo> k ima check em out
[10:29] <doubletwist> Cyorxamp They seem to for a Z604 model anyway
[10:29] <vladuz976> soundray: sorry then
[10:29] <soundray> vladuz976: be a *bit* more careful.
[10:29] <vladuz976> soundray: true
[10:29] <YourNickname> Is anyone here familiar with Evolution that could help me troubleshoot?
[10:30] <soundray> michoelc: sorry what's the latest on your prob?
[10:30] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, Ive installed java sdk 1.5, but netbeans still loads 1.4, any ideas or suggestions?
[10:30] <shu> hello
[10:30] <arrick> davidmoore83, I sent you a pm with some info
[10:30] <chuckyp> !tell YourNickname about anyone
[10:30] <SaLoMoN> re
[10:30] <michoelc> i wrote what the log  says, its still got a blank screem
[10:30] <SaLoMoN> gn8
[10:30] <shu> i want to display the spec of my system
[10:30] <shu> anyone know how
[10:30] <chuckyp> shu, in irc?
[10:31] <Jhair> shu: the spec? what is that.
[10:31] <doubletwist> shu display what about the spec? You can get some info by running "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[10:31] <shu> specification of my computer
[10:31] <chuckyp> shu, where do you want ot display them?
[10:31] <shu> anywhere
[10:31] <shu> i jus want to know how much ghz and ram i have3
[10:32] <arrick> doubletwist, hey i got music, thanks for your help
[10:32] <soundray> michoelc: this is before you get a chance to log in, correct?
[10:32] <doubletwist> shu from a terminal "cat /proc/cpuinfo" will show your cpu. and 'free' will show your ram
[10:32] <doubletwist> arrick Cool. No problem :)
[10:32] <arrick> doubletwist, how do I ad to the library for gxine?
[10:32] <axisys> anyone here used squid.. i am looking for a very very simple config to test
[10:32] <Heroin> axisys i dont use it, but iam wondering what it is :P
[10:33] <chuckyp> shu, you can use hdparm or something for you hardrive specs if you want.
[10:33] <michoelc> i can log into the console but not into xserver
[10:33] <doubletwist> arrick I dunno, I don't use gxine for music. Now that you've tested it and it works though, you can install amarok and it shoudl work [you might have to tell it in settings to use the xine engine]
[10:33] <axisys> i guess it is kind a offtopic..sorry about that
[10:33] <arrick> ok
[10:33] <Heroin> no problem but what kind of prgm is it?
[10:33] <chuckyp> michoelc, do you get any errors
[10:33] <YourNickname> chuckyp: how about "why is Evolution generating a generic/cryptic error when confronted with a 207 multi-status response containing a 200 OK in XML format from an OWA interface when using the connector?"
[10:33] <shu> thanks
[10:33] <rene> hi ho
[10:33] <axisys> Heroin: squid mainly used as a web rpoxy/caching/filter server
[10:33] <doubletwist> axisys I've used squid in the past [it's been awhile] . Don't think you are gonna find a 'SIMPLE' config :)
[10:33] <axisys> doubletwist: guess not
[10:33] <chuckyp> YourNickname, I don't know perhaps someone else will if you ask the them.
[10:34] <doubletwist> axisys But you might see if there is an example config in /usr/share/docs/squid
[10:34] <help> people how to enable the root on the live cd ??/
[10:34] <michoelc> no errors just a blank screen
[10:34] <rene> can anyone assist??
[10:34] <axisys> doubletwist: thnx
[10:34] <chuckyp> YourNickname, Just direct questions with out a name in the front then if someone knows they will mostlikely answer.
[10:34] <tristanmike> !ask
[10:34] <help> ???
[10:34] <arrick> davidmoore83, did the pm help you out, or did you fall off the map?
[10:34] <YourNickname> why is Evolution generating a generic/cryptic error when confronted with a 207 multi-status response containing a 200 OK in XML format from an OWA interface when using the connector?
[10:34] <help> people how to enable the root on the live cd ??/
[10:34] <help> people how to enable the root on the live cd ??/
[10:35] <tristanmike> !tell help about root
[10:35] <rene> i just installed ubuntu and tried to start an administration task but root pw will not accepted
[10:35] <nismo> chuckyp that didnt seem to help me
[10:35] <doubletwist> rene You can't log in as root. You need to use sudo.
[10:35] <help> !tell help about root
[10:35] <rene> login via command line works fine
[10:35] <help> chears
[10:35] <davidmoore83> arrick:  i have written to you in the PM
[10:35] <arrick> ok
[10:35] <doubletwist> rene if you absolutely insist on needing a root password you can do a "sudo passwd root" from your user account to set a password.
[10:36] <arrick> id didnt come through
[10:36] <helfrez> anyone else disturbed by the radeon x1900 graphics cards from blizzard that are water cooled and draw 150W lol
[10:36] <rene> ok
[10:36] <mariux> "Memory split (3G/1G user/kernel split (for full 1G low memory))" means that i can disable "high memory" on my 1gb ram system, correct?
[10:36] <Heroin> 150W!?
[10:36] <d0uglas> debian rulez bitches
[10:36] <rene> means what?
[10:36] <helfrez> yep
[10:36] <helfrez> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/03/27/review_sapphire_blizzard/
[10:36] <mariux> helfrez: was that me you yesed?
[10:36] <Heroin> well 150 for the card and the water cooling.. or does the water cooler need a powerthing aswell?
[10:37] <Eleaf> meow
[10:37] <JoeMorris> Ehud Olmert!
[10:37] <Seveas> Eleaf, woof
[10:37] <doubletwist> debian does rule! But so does Ubuntu, and slackware, and zenwalk etc... :)
[10:37] <kbrooks> hey Seveas
[10:37] <Eleaf> MEOW
[10:37] <Eleaf> oh I already said that..
[10:37] <Eleaf> lol
[10:37] <YourNickname> does Evolution not deal well with XML HTTP responses?
[10:37] <kbrooks> Seveas: whats new?
[10:37] <helfrez> Heroin, looks like for the whole shabang
[10:37] <rene> ehm where can i do sudo_
[10:37] <nismo> Im trying to watch a video using firefox, i have the mplayer plugin but i cant seem to view it, any suggestions?
[10:37] <Heroin> well i mean a waterpump could use some power
[10:37] <lampshade> Hey, what do I need to be able to do hibernation, etc?  Basically I uninstalled laptop-mode for something, then I reinstalled it, but I did not recover the features
[10:37] <kbrooks> Seveas: some news from easyubuntu for you: we got the documentation in our SVN
[10:38] <Heroin> nismo some already said u need codecs
[10:38] <nismo> Ive done the restricted formats stuff
[10:38] <helfrez> but i can sympathize with them and the other 5800 users
[10:38] <nismo> yea ive done the codecs
[10:38] <nismo> still no dice
[10:38] <Heroin> nismo perhaps its a quicktime or realplayer steam?
[10:38] <helfrez> i have a 5800 Ultra that comes OClocked from the factory
[10:38] <helfrez> and its extremely loud lol
[10:38] <helfrez> but fast
[10:38] <nismo> its a flash player stream i belive
[10:39] <Seveas> kbrooks, "what's new"? check the ubuntu-users list, arnieboy has made a complete fool of himslef
[10:39] <Seveas> oh wait, that's nothing new...
[10:39] <arrick> doubletwist, Hey, I cant add stuff from my external to the library in Amarok?
[10:39] <kbrooks> Seveas, I know.
[10:39] <CryoTox> Can anyone help me with this, I accidently removed the trash icon and the green button that minimizes all windows from my bar at the bottom, any ideas how to get them back?
[10:39] <rene> ok i did a sudo passwd root but now i cannot start networking anymore?
[10:39] <nismo> Im wondering, do any of you guys use firefox???
[10:39] <kbrooks> Seveas, He hasnt yet responded to any of those questions
[10:39] <doubletwist> arrick You should be able to
[10:40] <nismo> For those that do use firefox. are you able to watch videos from youtube or metacafe?
[10:40] <rene> su
[10:40] <kbrooks> Seveas, hwe just throws crap balls at us
[10:40] <arrick> it only sees the root, and desktop
[10:40] <JoeMorris> do you, ubuntu? :P
[10:40] <Seveas> kbrooks, let me repeat: "oh wait, that's nothing new..."
[10:40] <davidmoore83> arrick: you on msn?
[10:40] <kbrooks> Seveas, what's nothing new?
[10:40] <nismo> :(
[10:40] <Seveas> arnieboy waving his bullshit wand
[10:40] <Heroin> lol
[10:40] <CryoTox> Any ideas?
[10:40] <tristanmike> nismo: I can from youtube
[10:41] <kbrooks> Seveas, umm, excuse me for the language, but i think arnieboy is an asshole
[10:41] <arrick> no
[10:41] <davidmoore83> arrick: any messenger progs?
[10:41] <chuckyp> Seveas, have you seen some of the problems with 2.6.15-19-686 kernel?
[10:41] <arrick> im on verizon dsl
[10:41] <Seveas> kbrooks, please watch your language
[10:41] <rene> Sorry asking agein for help but if i now try to start up for example add aplication nothing happens
[10:41] <arrick> yeah
[10:41] <kbrooks> Seveas, he ripped off keyes
[10:41] <arrick> yahoo
[10:41] <doubletwist> arrick It'll be under root. like /media/sda1
[10:41] <nismo> are most of the videos from youtube flash ?
[10:41] <arrick> ok
[10:41] <tristanmike> nismo: no, this one I'm watching now is a video
[10:41] <CryoTox> Also, does anyone know what I need for the command gmake to work?
[10:42] <nismo> what type of video?
[10:42] <tristanmike> nismo: I don't know, it just started playing
[10:42] <chuckyp> CryoTox, what are you trying to do?
[10:42] <Cyorxamp> !deb
[10:42] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[10:42] <rene> sorry cryotox dont know
[10:42] <nismo> well how did u get youtube working
[10:42] <nismo> i cant do it :(
[10:42] <arrick> ok dound it
[10:42] <arrick> found it
[10:42] <nismo> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player, click here to get the latest flash player.
[10:42] <Cyorxamp> CryoTox - like the name :P
[10:42] <nismo> Thats what i get at youtube
[10:42] <tristanmike> nismo: my guess, "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[10:43] <nismo> for any video
[10:43] <nismo> ive done that
[10:43] <tristanmike> nismo: gimme the link
[10:43] <nismo> but no dice
[10:43] <nismo> http://youtube.com/watch?v=PsRkU7FV4aw
[10:43] <CryoTox> chuckyp: I have a source and I need the command gmake, but it says it doens't exist (the scommand) so I was wondering if there was an app i need.
[10:43] <Heroin> nismo restart firefox?
[10:43] <nismo> thats just a random 1
[10:43] <Heroin> or reboot?
[10:43] <chuckyp> nismo, I beleieve youtube uses flash but I may be mistaken
[10:43] <nismo> er reboot?
[10:43] <chuckyp> CryoTox, install build-essential
[10:43] <nismo> youtube does use flash, but tristan is able to watch videos off it
[10:43] <gnomefreak> oh crap i didnt see that before
[10:43] <tristanmike> nismo: that's a video, oddly enough that's the one I was watching :P
[10:43] <rene> bye
[10:43] <rene> quit
[10:43] <nismo> when i go on youtube
[10:44] <nismo> this is the error i get
[10:44] <nismo> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player, click here to get the latest flash player.
[10:44] <tristanmike> nismo: so do you have flash and java installed ?
[10:44] <nismo> yes
[10:44] <tristanmike> how?
[10:44] <CryoTox> chuckyp: "install to few arguments'
[10:44] <tristanmike> ....please don't say automatix
[10:44] <nismo> oddly enough though
[10:44] <Shameejais> Hi
[10:44] <nismo> when i go to about:plugins on firefox
[10:45] <nismo> the only plugin that shows up is the flash one
[10:45] <chuckyp> nismo, I'm able to watch videos off of it I install flash accoriding to the restricted wiki page.
[10:45] <arrick> doubletwist, when I open the sda1 folder there is nothing showing, and its 160 gigs of music
[10:45] <nismo> i did that chucky :(
[10:45] <arrick> why is that?
[10:45] <tristanmike> nismo: so you installed blackdown java? or the one from sun's site ?
[10:45] <chuckyp> CryoTox, sudo apt-get install build-essential   its a package that will install most of the compiliers you need for installing from source.
[10:45] <nismo> er from synaptic
[10:46] <chuckyp> CryoTox, what app are you trying to install it may already be in the sources.
[10:46] <doubletwist> arrick It doesn't show the individual files. You just check the box next to the sda1 and it will automatically load all the music that is in there.
[10:46] <tristanmike> nismo: but using the wiki I assume
[10:46] <CryoTox> thanks, and I'm trying to install Synchronet BBS
[10:46] <nismo> i used the wiki
[10:46] <davidmoore83> my cd drive wont eject now!
[10:46] <nismo> absolutly no help at all lol
[10:47] <CryoTox> bbl
[10:47] <nismo> i did what it said
[10:47] <nismo> i installed the stuff
[10:47] <nismo> etc etc but still cant watch vids
[10:47] <ipfaff> Hey! Has anyone had anyluck with the Lexmark X7170? I just purchased this printer and can not get it to print. I went to System->Admin->Printing.....ubuntu discovered the printer and recommended the appropriate drivers; however, when I try to print nothing happens and I do not recieve error messages? Please Help!!!
[10:47] <chuckyp> CryoTox, maybe try apt-cache search synchronet see if you find anything in the repos or use synaptic to search if not then install build essentials to build it from source.
[10:47] <tristanmike> nismo: do you have the w32codec ?
[10:47] <nismo> yea i got them
[10:47] <nismo> wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:47] <nismo>   sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:47] <chuckyp> nismo, I would just make sure you have java installed according to the page as well.
[10:47] <tristanmike> you are using Breezy ?
[10:48] <nismo> lemme try that chucky
[10:48] <nismo> might as well right :)
[10:48] <arrick> doubletwist, ok, what about if they're in folders in there>?
[10:48] <doubletwist> arrick It will load everything under them. As a matter of fact, if you just checked the box next to the root , it would load every music file on your entire system [might take awhile to scan though :) ]
[10:48] <arrick> doubletwist, each cd is a folder
[10:48] <ipfaff> Hey! Has anyone had anyluck with the Lexmark X7170? I just purchased this printer and can not get it to print. I went to System->Admin->Printing.....ubuntu discovered the printer and recommended the appropriate drivers; however, when I try to print nothing happens and I do not recieve error messages? Please Help!!!
[10:49] <doubletwist> arrick it doesn't show those CD folders either though?
[10:49] <arrick> doubletwist, or is it taking a while to seach the drive? nope
[10:49] <doubletwist> hmmm
[10:49] <nismo> ....
[10:49] <arrick> but I can click on the desktop and it opens right up
[10:49] <doubletwist> arrick Dunno then. But you can view it via Nautilus [or whatever filemanager]
[10:49] <doubletwist> Um...
[10:49] <doubletwist> Got me stumped :)
[10:50] <Heroin> tumpty tumpty tump :D KDE is up and running
[10:50] <ipfaff> Hey! Has anyone had anyluck with the Lexmark X7170? I just purchased this printer and can not get it to print. I went to System->Admin->Printing.....ubuntu discovered the printer and recommended the appropriate drivers; however, when I try to print nothing happens and I do not recieve error messages? Please Help!!!
[10:50] <arrick> anybody been following doubletwist and arrick's conversations?
[10:50] <Heroin> sometimes
[10:50] <soundray> ipfaff, can you check that cupsd is running pls
[10:50] <doubletwist> arrick just for grins you can try xmms or beep-media-player [or rhythmbox but I had trouble getting it to work with some codecs like flac]
[10:51] <arrick> The lexmark x7170 only has a developers distribution available for a driver and it dont work on mine
[10:51] <arrick> ok
[10:51] <nismo> hmm
[10:51] <kbrooks> how doi find the current version of gstreamer installed thru the cli?
[10:51] <nismo> i think its possible that i didnt have java
[10:51] <arrick> ipfaff, did you see my post
[10:51] <chuckyp> kbrooks, dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
[10:51] <arrick> The lexmark x7170 only has a developers distribution available for a driver and it dont work on mine
[10:51] <nismo> on the sun site, the file is 46 mb, on synaptic it was much smaller
[10:51] <ipfaff> really
[10:52] <ipfaff> so no luck then
[10:52] <arrick> nope
[10:52] <nismo> well since its 46 mb, ima get a drink, brb
[10:52] <arrick> not unless you want to develope a driver
[10:52] <ipfaff> last two days of vacation
[10:52] <lampshade> seriously, ANYONE, Hibernation?
[10:52] <ipfaff> probably not
[10:53] <chuckyp> lampshade, hibernation works for me on my laptop.
[10:53] <doubletwist> lampshade I haven't messed with hibernation in linxu yet
[10:53] <boci^>  breezy to drapper
[10:53] <delphiuk> is hibernation supposed to work on dekstops?
[10:53] <doubletwist> arrick Good luck with that. I need to focus and get some work done, so I'll just be lurking for awhile...
[10:53] <boci^> hi
[10:53] <chuckyp> lampshade, but i'm using dapper so i'm not much help to you i'm sure.
[10:53] <boci^> I upgraded breezy to drapper, but it's say QMAIL_DIR is a wrong environment variable
[10:54] <boci^> because I want to use maildir , not the shit mbox
[10:54] <chuckyp> delphiuk, I don't see why it wouldn't let me try it brb.
[10:54] <tristanmike> nismo: if you don't absolutely need the bleeding edge java, I'd stick with the "blackdown" one, it's easier, I've not to experience a problem with it yet
[10:54] <lampshade> well it isn't that it didn't work at all, it was working, then I was reading a forum post, so then I uninstalled it as that post said, or actually I should say I took out laptop-mode and when that package left, I lost hibernation and suspend in one swoop.  Now I got nothing
[10:54] <deejross> hello, I am having a problem getting my jabber server to work...can anyone help me?
[10:54] <concept10> what package will remove all of the afce desktop
[10:54] <nismo> well i have the blackdown 1
[10:54] <soundray> lampshade: reinstall laptop-mode-tools then?
[10:55] <nismo> but apparently it doesnt seem to work
[10:55] <concept10> err.. thats the XFCE desktop
[10:55] <delphiuk> chuckyp: thanks. i should have mentioned that I was playing with dapper
[10:55] <lampshade> soundray, no help :-/
[10:55] <tristanmike> !dapper
[10:55] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:55] <levander> Isn't there a macos channel on freenode?  I just can't remember it's specific name.
[10:55] <soundray> lampshade: do you remember whether you hibernated via ACPI or you suspended via the kernel swsusp stuff?
[10:56] <lampshade> soundray, couldn't tell you, it worked out of the box-- the usual hibernate and suspend on the logout menu.
[10:56] <deejross> hello????
[10:56] <_harm> ah
[10:56] <_harm> can some one tell me howto upgrade from 5.04 to 5.1?
[10:56] <soundray> lampshade: you're so lucky... you should never have messed with it.
[10:56] <nickrud> !upgrade
[10:56] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[10:57] <soundray> lampshade: anyway, have you looked at the acpi stuff in /etc/default/ ?
[10:57] <lampshade> soundray, you are telling me, I had second thoughts about doing it, but the battery life the forum post promised sounded really good so I just went with it and removed laptop-mode and installed laptop-mode-tools like the post said :-/
[10:57] <chuckyp> Nope didn't like that too much
[10:58] <chuckyp> The hibernation that is on my desktop; however, was asking.
[10:58] <CountZ> are the nVidia problems I am having a dapper only issue? I mean, if I download the latest "stable" ubuntu, will my nVidia card work fine?
[10:58] <soundray> lampshade: I see, if that's what you did, you probably just have to edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[10:58] <athcsx> Hi all, I recently upgraded my entire system to dapper, however when I upgrade the kernel-image, when I reboot all I get is a busybox terminal. Any ideas?
[10:58] <soundray> lampshade, and /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[10:58] <CountZ> i'm talking about the binary vs. non-binary driver talks i'm seeing all over google/forums/wikis
[10:59] <tristanmike> !tell athcsx about dapper
[10:59] <deejross> this is the support channel is it not?
[10:59] <chuckyp> athcsx, dapper discussion is #ubuntu+1
[10:59] <tristanmike> athcsx: see you're pm from ubotu for best support with dapper
[10:59] <mikelourenco> i need help on running an .rpm program
[10:59] <athcsx> tristanmike: thanks
[10:59] <mikelourenco> why wont it launch
[10:59] <chuckyp> !tell mikelourenco about alien
[10:59] <CountZ> mikelourenco: use alien
[11:00] <mikelourenco> thanks
[11:00] <greenpenguin13> my friend has a very odd error with his new ubuntu installation
[11:00] <chuckyp> mikelourenco, what app are you trying to install?
[11:00] <tristanmike> mikelourenco: what program ?
[11:00] <deejross> OMFG IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT CAN SPEAK TO ME
[11:00] <mikelourenco> lime wire
[11:00] <lampshade> soundray, hmm  alright, at least that's something I can start toying with, I was running on nothing, lemme mess around with those and see what I can find out
[11:00] <greenpenguin13> apparently it tells him his xserver is not installed
[11:00] <tristanmike> !tell deejross about patience
[11:00] <CountZ> deejross: i'm sure we could all speak to you
[11:00] <chuckyp> deefzi, yes ask a question
[11:00] <tristanmike> !tell mikelourenco about limewire
[11:00] <greenpenguin13> even though the .deb's are installed
[11:00] <chuckyp> deefzi, sry meant deejross
[11:00] <gnomefreak> deejross: lose the caps and ask a question please
[11:00] <deejross> well, ive watched like 4 people come and go with questions and not one person has even responded to me
[11:00] <mikelourenco> can i download alien from ubuntu?
[11:00] <cello_rasp> yep
[11:00] <dyrne> deejross: what was your question
[11:01] <tristanmike> mikelourenco: see you're pm for safer and easier instructions
[11:01] <sfar> deejross, yes this is the support channel
[11:01] <greenpenguin13> sudo apt-get install alien
[11:01] <CountZ> deejross: i must have showed up after your question was asked
[11:01] <deejross> my problem is that I can't get jabber server to work right
[11:01] <lampshade> deejross, Jabber isn't really the rooms deal as much as it might be like a jabber channels deal I would imagine, but if it is an ubuntu question than yeah go for it
[11:01] <soundray> lampshade: for further related config files, look at the output of dpkg -L laptop-mode-tools | grep etc
[11:01] <tristanmike> !patience
[11:01] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[11:01] <mikelourenco> thanks alot
[11:01] <chuckyp> mikelourenco, isn't there a limewire/gnutella client in synaptic
[11:01] <CountZ> deejross: then you need to read the docs and try some more, i am successfuly running a jabber server and am using it right now
[11:01] <deefzi> chuckyp, okay, i'll ask.
[11:01] <deejross> well, I went to the jabber channel, and they told me to ome here
[11:01] <greenpenguin13> gtk-gnutella
[11:01] <cello_rasp> i'm looking for a itunes replacement for breezy that -supports the shuffle- (my emphasis)
[11:01] <deefzi> chuckyp, could jesus microware a burrito so hot, that he himself could not eat it?
[11:01] <tristanmike> punt
[11:01] <mikelourenco> will look
[11:01] <chuckyp> deefzi, sure he could.
[11:02] <deejross> well, i can connect to it fine from the machine it's on, but not from other machines...the firewall is open and the other machines respond with stream errors
[11:02] <Cyorxamp> hey doubletwist
[11:02] <deefzi> chuckyp, okay. what about... could jesus beat dr. phil in melee combat?
[11:02] <tristanmike> chuckyp: he can get bleeding edge easy peasy
[11:02] <greenpenguin13> error about no xserver installed familiar to anyone?
[11:02] <Cyorxamp> I followed those instructions (obviously changing the rpm's to debs)
[11:02] <chuckyp> deefzi, dr. phil is pretty tuff.
[11:02] <Cyorxamp> CUPS looks set up properly with the driver and the usb location
[11:02] <CountZ> deefzi: a better question yet is: what would Roy Boytanno do?
[11:02] <abre> deejross, is it listening on the right interface?
[11:02] <Cyorxamp> But whenever gedit sends (or gthumb) a job... it times out :S
[11:02] <deefzi> chuckyp, what are the odds?
[11:02] <ifr> ANyone know of a way to record streaming video?
[11:02] <Cyorxamp> the CUPS web admin page can see it tho
[11:02] <chuckyp> CountZ, bryan boytanno you mean?
[11:02] <soundray> !offtopic
[11:02] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:03] <deejross> how do i know if it or not...there was not an option...so I would assume it is...apache doesnt have a problem
[11:03] <deefzi> chuckyp, either way, i'll put 50 on phil
[11:03] <chuckyp> deefzi, i'd give dr. phil 3 to 1
[11:03] <ifr> Anyone know of a way to record streaming video UNDER BREEZY??
[11:03] <CountZ> chuckyp: Ah yes, Bryan...!
[11:03] <Cyorxamp> Lo ifr - shoutcast?
[11:03] <ifr> Hey Cyorxamp, thanks!
[11:03] <Cyorxamp> No its not a recommendation!
[11:04] <Cyorxamp> Just asking if the video is being broadcasted using shoutcast
[11:04] <deefzi> chuckyp, phil's gonna be so dead, if jesus is going to do one of his miracles again
[11:04] <tristanmike> please take all Dr. Phil discussion to offtopic
[11:04] <elvyn> ubuntu en es panol
[11:04] <Seveas> !es
[11:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:04] <Seveas> ^-- elvyn
[11:05] <elvyn> Seveas,  Gracias y me puedes ayudar con mi Wireless
[11:05] <lampshade> soundray, You wouldn't happen to know what controls the logout menu and such?  So that the options for hibernating and such are
[11:06] <Seveas> elvyn, yo no hablo espanol, va en #ubuntu-es por favor
[11:06] <nismo> well ive done all those steps
[11:06] <nismo> with java and blah blah blah
[11:06] <nismo> still no luck
[11:06] <chuckyp> Seveas, habla I believe would be more proper
[11:06] <knanand> Please help me i have a major problem! I am not able to add any applications i can see the list > I select pacakges to install > It downloads all > Prepares to install > Then gives an error : Failed to apply all changes see terminal buffer to see what went wrong. I see all pacakges unpacked.. > I get another error window that reads like this " E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgcj6-common_4.0.1-4ubuntu9_all.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package
[11:07] <chuckyp> Seveas, something like no habla espanol, va en #ubuntu-es por favor
[11:07] <tristanmike> nismo: what are you running ? amd64 ? Dapper ?  Something isn't right
[11:07] <Josh43> Can anyone tell me where to find the setting so that my files and folders are NOT sorted with caps first?
[11:07] <Seveas> knanand, try this after closing all package manager: sudo apt-get clean
[11:07] <Seveas> chuckyp, as I said: I don't speak spanish ;)
[11:07] <soundray> lampshade: what I do know is that some of the options there call scripts in /etc/acpi
[11:07] <chuckyp> Seveas, lol true
[11:08] <talldave> hello any one know if i can set mozilla plugins to use realplayer for audio and mplayer for video?
[11:08] <blacknight> lo ompaul
[11:09] <ompaul> evening bk
[11:09] <knanand> Though I got that error i find they are installed is it OK??
[11:09] <abre> talldave, RestrictedFormats on the wiki
[11:09] <lampshade> soundray, the other thing is that now when I try just the command "hibernate" on bash, it replies to me that my kernel does not have support for it?  Is hibernate the command that is used?  Or is that something different?
[11:10] <tristanmike> talldave: you can try a firefox plugin called "mediaplayerconnectivity"
[11:10] <talldave> tristanmike thanks i will try that
[11:11] <soundray> lampshade: I think you can do something like 'echo sleep >/sys/power/state' on the command line, but I'm really not on home ground here.
[11:11] <elvyn> hola quien me puede ayudar con mi Wireless orinoco, por que no tengo mucha ayuda en ubuntu-es
[11:12] <blacknight> elvyn, que le pasa?
[11:12] <lampshade> soundray, fair enough, you are still more help then I've found on google and on the ubuntu forums
[11:12] <grogoreo> hi
[11:12] <grogoreo> I'm using an rsync commad to copy my music from an mp3 player to my computer and vise versa but it seems to only copy from PC to Player:   rsync -v -r --size-only ~/Documents/Multimedia/Music/ /media/IAUDIO/MUSIC     I'm putting this in a script; should I have another copy of this but switch the directories around?
[11:13] <soundray> lampshade, generic advice: look in /usr/share/doc/packagename. Surprising amounts of info can be buried there :)
[11:13] <soundray> lampshade: e.g. /usr/share/doc/laptop-mode-tools
[11:14] <_daniel_> anyone knows if a package of helix-dbus-server exists and under what name ?
[11:14] <theD3viL> anyone have some wdm themes ?
[11:14] <elvyn> blacknight, el led solo esta prendido
[11:14] <apollo2011> hi everyone
[11:14] <apollo2011> I just tried upgrading one of my systems to dapper and I rebooted and X is messed up (no surprise)
[11:14] <elvyn> blacknight, no tengo conexion con mi Access Point
[11:14] <apollo2011> can someone help me fix it?
[11:15] <soundray> apollo2011: go to #ubuntu+1 for addvice about that. Be very precise when you describe the problem.
[11:15] <ntoll> hi, how do I get beagle to work in Ubuntu. I have it installed, the beagled is running but when I type a search term it doesn't find anything (even though I'm searching for stuff I know is there). It kinda looks like it hasn't indexed my home dir... how do I get it to do this?
[11:15] <apollo2011> soundray, ok
[11:15] <elvyn> Creo que es que ubuntu no tiene y/o no entiende
[11:16] <ntoll> For example, I have an OOo file with the word Manifesto in the title. Searching for "Manifesto" should find it right?
[11:16] <arrick> apollo2011, go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[11:17] <soundray> ntoll: if you're searching for filenames, you might as well use locate
[11:17] <tes1> hello
[11:17] <tes1> question: what firewall does Firestarter use? iptables? or is it like zonealarm?
[11:18] <ntoll> soundray, its not the filename. The word "Manifesto" is the on the title page of the doc.
[11:18] <knanand> can i use the data on NTFS partitions? how can i mount them..?
[11:18] <tes1> !ntfs
[11:18] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:18] <void^> tes1: iptables
[11:18] <ntoll> knanand, mount -t ntfs /dev/???? /mnt/??? as read only
[11:18] <lampshade> knanand, you can read them, but writing to them is not so greatly supported as it is mostly rev engineered as I understand it
[11:18] <tes1> @void^ thank you!
[11:18] <arrick> how do I uninstall unwanted media players like xmms?
[11:18] <quellhorst> what faxing service should i use?
[11:19] <tes1> sudo apt-get remove xmms
[11:19] <arrick> thanks
[11:19] <tes1> or via synaptic
[11:19] <quellhorst> i am looking for a free fax service that i can view in linux
[11:19] <soundray> ntoll: apt-cache show beagle doesn't mention OOo support...
[11:19] <alexis_> bonjour, je viens d'arriver sous linux
[11:19] <alexis_> et je souhaiterai connatre un antivirus et un firewall  installer
[11:20] <tristanmike> !fr
[11:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:20] <knanand> writing to NTFS is not so greatly supported means it is not reliable or it is not at all possible...
[11:20] <ntoll> hmmm... but it does support pdf reading too via poppler right?
[11:20] <tristanmike> sil vous plait
[11:20] <gloria> #easyubuntu
[11:20] <ntoll> not finding stuff from pdf's either
[11:20] <chuckyp> quellhorst, did you try searching  synaptic I see a few possibles efax maybe?
[11:21] <LinuxJones> quellhorst: >> http://www.gnomefiles.org/shots/efax.png
[11:21] <bobulator> hey, if im backing up all the user files to do a system reinstall, is there any other files i need to backup to save the users database?
[11:21] <quellhorst> LinuxJones, chuckyp thanks
[11:21] <bobulator> as in, is there anything not stored in the home directory i need to keep?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> knanand: its not safe to write to ntfs but im sure if you dont mind losing everything you can do it. (i wouldnt nor would i ever recommend it)
[11:21] <MisterN> n8
[11:22] <tes1> @bobulator: every data you saved somewhere else and want to keep!
[11:22] <nismo> eeep, firefox keeps shutting down for no apparent reason
[11:22] <bobulator> but i mean, i want to keep the same users and passwords data... are there any other files i need to hang on to?
[11:22] <tu-em> if anyone knows... plz respond : having ubuntu distro (running apache2 & ssh) in a network behind NAT,, on the router apache2 & ssh ports are forwarded to the ubuntu box,, when connected from inet it works sometime, and then just hangs... and not accesible till box restart (physicaly going there),, thought it was the router (levelOne) whole the time.. but it seems not... :\
[11:22] <ic56> Josh43: re: case-insensitive filename sorting.  You have 2 options: (1) write yourself a one-line script like so: ls "0" |sort .  (2) set the internationalization environment variables.  I forget the name of the variable now but it will cause all of unix to obey human-language rules for sorting.
[11:22] <knanand> ok i get you... thanx
[11:22] <arrick> gnomefreak, why isnt it safe to write to NTFS? I do it all the time and the banks partitions are all NTFS, and they run a linux package for their systems
[11:23] <soundray> ntoll: have you seen http://beaglewiki.org/Ubuntu_Installation ?
[11:23] <ic56> Josh43: s/"0"/"$@"/
[11:23] <niomi> hello all, thanks for your time -- i changed every instance to 'breezy' to 'dapper' in sources.lst, and did the apt-get dist upgrade. then i rebooted. it's going into a grub CLI, what do i do now?
[11:23] <arrick> gnomefreak, just wondering
[11:23] <chuckyp> tu-em, which distro are you running ?
[11:23] <ntoll> soundray, nope... looking now... thx
[11:23] <tes1> question: how can i rename my eth0 to eth1 and vice versa?
[11:23] <chuckyp> tu-em, i.e. hoary, breezy, or dapper?
[11:24] <soundray> ntoll: ty for reminding me of beagle - I've been meaning to try it out :)
[11:24] <tu-em> dl-ed it about 2 weeks ago (it was the latest), 5.x
[11:24] <tu-em> cant remember exact
[11:24] <Josh43> ic56; Wow, that's intense for a small change like that.. I will probly change it in internationalization, but where would I put that script if I wanted nautilus and every open file dialog to respect it?
[11:24] <ThomS> join #ubuntu=dev
[11:24] <ntoll> soundray, well I hope it works for you!
[11:24] <tu-em> chuckyp : :S,, sorry, dont know between those 3
[11:24] <nismo> im trying to reinstall firefox, but every time i go to synaptic or the terminal it tells me that i need the cd, I think the problem i have with firefox is that the version from the cd doesnt seem to be working properly
[11:24] <chuckyp> tu-em, hrm... maybe hunt arround int he logs and see whats going on in /var/log  when it start denying network connections thats wierd.  Is the box physically locked when you go to locally restart it?
[11:24] <nismo> is there a way were i can completly remve any trace of firefox
[11:24] <krietor> hi guys
[11:25] <gnomefreak> iirc arrick its a microsoft securtiy concern for ntfs writing
[11:25] <nismo> and that reinstall it using terminal or synaptic (without it asking me for a cd)
[11:25] <arrick> ok
[11:25] <monteiro_> where can i change the refresh of my monitor , it's 60hertz and i wanted to make it 70, anyone knows ?
[11:25] <tu-em> chuckyp : no, thats antoher thing i forgot, all works & apache and ssh are available within the network
[11:25] <chuckyp> nismo, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the lines that are referencing the cd.
[11:25] <soundray> ntoll: oh, you need extended attributes support. See /usr/share/doc/beagle/README.debian
[11:25] <chuckyp> nismo, then sudo apt-get update
[11:25] <nismo> ...
[11:25] <Jhair> nismo: sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox
[11:25] <arrick> How do I play .wma on Amorak?
[11:25] <dyrne> nismo: comment out cd entery at top of /etc/apt/sources.list. as for firefox see wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:25] <chuckyp> tu-em, that has to be router based then.  Thats just goofy.
[11:25] <ntoll> soundray, just found that too
[11:26] <krietor> hey guys i got a question
[11:26] <redguy> krietor: shoot
[11:26] <chuckyp> !tell arrick about restricted
[11:26] <gnomefreak> !wma
[11:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:26] <krietor> ive downloaded MPlayer-1.0pre7try2, and i wanted to install that
[11:26] <krietor> how do it do it
[11:26] <krietor> omg im  such a n00b
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell krietor about mplayer
[11:26] <ic56> Josh43: assuming nautilus and others are using ls rather than calling libc directly (not likely, but it's worth a shot), try this: mv /bin/ls /bin/ls.bin; echo /bin/ls.bin \"\$@\" |sort -i > /bin/ls
[11:27] <tu-em> chuckyp : one interesting thing,, when i leave the ubuntu on the login screen, then its the highest probability that it wont work, but when i log in, and lock the keyboard, then it works (for sometime)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> krietor: the easy way is in your pm
[11:27] <juanma> alguien espaol?
[11:27] <redguy> !es
[11:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:27] <krietor> that has DIVx support also?
[11:27] <tu-em> chuckyp : i'll check the logs, thnx for the hint
[11:27] <monteiro_> krietor : activate multiverse repositories and sudo apt-get install mplayer-xxx the xxx are 386, 586...
[11:27] <krietor> that mplayer?
[11:28] <chuckyp> tu-em, I wouldn't even know where to begin It definately seems like the router is hiccuping or your internal address is changing somehow then the port forwards are getting messed up.
[11:28] <krietor> ok thx
[11:28] <arrick> ok, restricted got me the w32 codec, but I cant get them to load on amarok
[11:28] <rkalsi_VS> Hello, anybody willing to help a newbie install ubuntu ?
[11:28] <ic56> Josh43: found it!  You want to modify LC_COLLATE.
[11:28] <tes1> !wine
[11:28] <nismo> ya im like a noob
[11:28] <nismo> so...
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell krietor about divx
[11:28] <nismo> when it coems to editing the sources.list
[11:28] <nismo> what do i use
[11:28] <arrick> rkalsi_VS, put the disk in the drive and go
[11:28] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, download the cd and install  I would read the wiki
[11:28] <tu-em> anyone tryed XGL on ubuntu ?
[11:28] <arrick> it will pretty much do all the work itself
[11:28] <tristanmike> nismo: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:28] <redguy> !tell tu-em about xgl
[11:29] <dyrne> nismo: or sudo gedit
[11:29] <ifr> tu-em #ubuntu-xgl
[11:29] <delphiuk> tristanmike: can't it be done via synaptic as well?
[11:29] <tristanmike> nismo: put a # in front of the cd line, then hit ctrl+x to save and enter to exit
[11:29] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[11:29] <tu-em> ah, theres a spec. channel :)
[11:29] <tu-em> sry
[11:29] <arrick> !freeformats
[11:29] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:29] <tristanmike> delphiuk: yeah, absolutely
[11:29] <tes1> what name is 5.10? brreeeezey?
[11:29] <delphiuk> tes1: yes
[11:29] <_harm> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:29] <nismo> well there doesnt seem to be anything referring to the cd
[11:29] <chuckyp> tes1, yes breezy
[11:29] <_harm> how would i mount:
[11:29] <gnomefreak> tes1: breezy badger
[11:29] <redguy> tes1: no, breezy badger is the name
[11:30] <_harm> how do i mount
[11:30] <_harm> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:30] <_harm> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:30] <tristanmike> delphiuk: if you've got the option to disable/enable software sources enabled
[11:30] <rkalsi_VS> having some pblm at Install the base package section
[11:30] <_harm> O.o
[11:30] <chuckyp> _harm, what are you trying to mount?
[11:30] <dyrne> nismo: on a default install the very top line should always be for the cd i would think
[11:30] <tes1> thx
[11:30] <_harm> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
sudo gedit /etc/fstab

[11:30] <rkalsi_VS> It says, cant download bal bka,...
[11:30] <_harm> What the hell
[11:30] <delphiuk> tristanmike: right, what's the default then?
[11:30] <chuckyp> !tell _harm about pastebin
[11:30] <nismo> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[11:30] <redguy> _harm: ??
[11:30] <rkalsi_VS> anybudy ?
[11:30] <_harm>  i want to mount this /dev/hdb1               1        9964    80035798+  42  SFS
[11:30] <nismo> well its already uncommented
[11:30] <tristanmike> delphiuk: that option is not default, and neither is show disabled software sources
[11:30] <_harm> but its SFS.. so what the heck is tha NTFS?
[11:30] <tes1> how can i add something to "autostart"
[11:31] <tes1> with sudo
[11:31] <nismo> hmmmmm
[11:31] <dyrne> nismo: comment it out and then save changes then type sudo apt-get update
[11:31] <tristanmike> delphiuk: as well universe and mulitverse are not accessable by default
[11:31] <nismo> so wait, u want me to put in comments ?
[11:31] <delphiuk> tristanmike: sure
[11:31] <chuckyp> _harm, did you follow the mounting guide?
[11:31] <dyrne> nismo: #deb etc yes
[11:31] <chuckyp> !tell _harm about ntfs
[11:31] <nismo> ok
[11:31] <chuckyp> _harm, on that page is directions for different file systems also
[11:32] <_harm> i tried but the script didnt get it and fstab didnt do it
[11:32] <rkalsi_VS> Guys, a newbie trying to install ubuntu. Stuck at install the base system...After partitioning, it tried to install but got stuck & errors were like: could not download....
[11:32] <rkalsi_VS> I would have thot that everything is on CD ??
[11:32] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: have you checked your cd?
[11:32] <nismo> ok
[11:32] <nismo> did that
[11:32] <nismo> whats nxt
[11:32] <knanand> gnomefreak, now that i have mounted will i have difficulties in reading encrypted files on NTFS media?
[11:32] <rkalsi_VS> did an integrity heck
[11:32] <chuckyp> _harm, if you do a sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb  what tyep of partition is it?
[11:32] <rkalsi_VS> it was fine.
[11:32] <poningru_> rkalsi_VS, it is what cd did you download?
[11:32] <dyrne> nismo: then sudo apt-get update and it should work
[11:32] <rkalsi_VS> i did not download..got it via post
[11:32] <poningru_> oh wow
[11:32] <tristanmike> rkalsi_VS: did you verify the md5sum of the downloaded file you burnt ?
[11:33] <rkalsi_VS> the one which says - Install C
[11:33] <_harm> chuckyp system SFS
[11:33] <tristanmike> rkalsi_VS: never mind then :P
[11:33] <dyrne> nismo: while youre messing with sources.list might as well uncomment all the urls at the bottom
[11:33] <rkalsi_VS> trista* I got it via post..
[11:33] <tristanmike> rkalsi_VS: yea I saw that a split second after I hit enter, srry
[11:33] <nismo> they r all uncommented
[11:33] <dyrne> nismo: ok
[11:33] <rkalsi_VS> aby other ideas >
[11:33] <rkalsi_VS> any*
[11:34] <tristanmike> rkalsi_VS: try another cd, I assume you didn't get just one
[11:34] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: do you have the option of retry?
[11:34] <poningru_> rkalsi_VS, you should be good to go it just ignore the error
[11:34] <rkalsi_VS> I got 2 - the other was Live  one ..
[11:34] <rkalsi_VS> Nah..it wont go
[11:34] <poningru_> hmm
[11:34] <rkalsi_VS> Its not progressing furthur
[11:34] <tristanmike> rkalsi_VS: no, I mean, you only recieved one set of cd's ?
[11:34] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, I would download the cd from the link I sent you.
[11:34] <rkalsi_VS> Yeah ?
[11:34] <nismo> ...
[11:34] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: tried ejecting the cd, and then re-inserting before the retry?
[11:34] <_harm> Ah i got it to work :P
[11:34] <nismo> loading firefox
[11:34] <rkalsi_VS> Is there more ?
[11:34] <knanand> will i have difficulties in reading encrypted files on NTFS media?
[11:34] <_harm> mount point was messed up
[11:35] <rkalsi_VS> Let me check, what u syggested delphiuk..
[11:35] <ThomS> Is there any way of reinstalling ubuntu without losing my files/data?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> knanand: dont know i dont use windows and the others in house dont use linux ;)
[11:36] <rkalsi_VS> bizarre, CD wont eject ???
[11:36] <_harm> iam going to reboot.. brb
[11:36] <nismo> ok
[11:37] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, because its mounted you would have to umount it to eject it.
[11:37] <nismo> CRAP
[11:37] <nismo> firefox keeps shutting down
[11:38] <nismo> what garbage
[11:38] <rkalsi_VS> oh, ok, one sec...
[11:38] <dyrne> nismo: breezy or dapper
[11:38] <chuckyp> nismo, what did you do now?  remove firefox?  then how did you install it?
[11:38] <dyrne> ?
[11:38] <rkalsi_VS> chucky, i wud have to abort the installation then, isnt it ?
[11:38] <tristanmike> dyrne: I have yet to peel that answer out
[11:38] <nismo> i just installed it using apt-get install
[11:38] <niki> can someone recommend an audio player that's got a media library (like amarok), but is not as resource hungry as amarok?
[11:38] <nismo> after the update
[11:38] <NickGarvey> .
[11:38] <nismo> breezy
[11:39] <chuckyp> niki, rythmbox
[11:39] <rkalsi_VS> chucky, i wud have to abort the installation then, isnt it ??
[11:39] <delphiuk> nismo: how did you remove firefox before?
[11:39] <nismo> sudo apt-get remove firefox
[11:39] <niki> thanky you chuckyp
[11:39] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, yes you would have to abort the installation I'm not sure what you are trying to do I'm sorry for interjeting in the middle I haven't been following completely.
[11:39] <rkalsi_VS> I am tryng to install ubuntu, chuckyp
[11:39] <rkalsi_VS> first timer
[11:40] <Cyorxamp> Is there an IRC channel for opensource.org?  I am trying to decide on a license to use and I could use a hand
[11:40] <rkalsi_VS> In the install the base system section,, i got stuck,,,
[11:40] <nismo> any ideas
[11:40] <rkalsi_VS> Apparantly, its trying to download sthing
[11:40] <rkalsi_VS> any idea ?
[11:40] <nismo> it only shutsdown on specific sites though
[11:40] <NickGarvey> nismo: such as?
[11:40] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, alright where did you get the cds again?
[11:40] <delphiuk> nismo: an example of a site?
[11:40] <rkalsi_VS> from ubuntu via post
[11:40] <nismo> like if im on a site, and i click on a link it will shutdown,... after it shutsdown andi try to return to the link it will again shutdown
[11:41] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: do you have the ability to download a cd from the web?
[11:41] <rkalsi_VS> delph, I am doing it now
[11:41] <dyrne> nismo: maybe view this as an opportunity.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:41] <rkalsi_VS> But, there seems to nothing wrong with that CD...
[11:41] <nismo> k
[11:41] <tristanmike> nismo: got a link ?
[11:41] <rkalsi_VS> delph, Why wud it try to download sthing ??
[11:41] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, what type of hardware are you installing on?
[11:41] <nismo> er lol
[11:41] <tristanmike> nismo: maybe these sites aren't firefox friendly
[11:42] <rkalsi_VS> chuckyp, its an AMP processor..
[11:42] <rkalsi_VS> AMD*
[11:42] <rkalsi_VS> x86
[11:42] <nismo> wait
[11:42] <nismo> im gettin errors
[11:42] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: it might say downloading, even though it is downloadiing from the cd
[11:42] <nismo> after i did sudo apt-get update
[11:42] <rkalsi_VS> oh ok..makes sense..
[11:42] <gridblock> hey
[11:42] <nismo> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[11:42] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, here if you want to see if its trying to download anything just unplug the pc from the net.  Then try you're install that way you definately know its not downloading any packages.
[11:42] <nismo> wait thats not it
[11:42] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, you could always update later.
[11:42] <nismo> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:43] <NickGarvey> !repos
[11:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:43] <rkalsi_VS> chuckyp, how can It be connected to net, i am installing ubuntu on it..
[11:43] <nismo>  Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[11:43] <lakai> anyone havin firewire wokrin in dapper?
[11:43] <rkalsi_VS> & IT
[11:43] <lakai> wokrin sorry
[11:43] <rkalsi_VS> it isnt configured yet..?
[11:43] <lakai> wtf
[11:43] <nismo> ^^^^ thats what i get after sudo apt-get update
[11:43] <lakai> working
[11:43] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, because I can do a netinstall froma cd but I don't believe ubuntu does this.
[11:43] <_jason> nismo: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please
[11:44] <tristanmike> nismo: do this: "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and paste the result on pastebin
[11:44] <tristanmike> !patebin
[11:44] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tristanmike
[11:44] <tristanmike> !pastebin
[11:44] <nismo> k
[11:44] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[11:44] <nismo> i dont wanna flood
[11:45] <nismo> how do u pastebin
[11:45] <_jason> nismo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:45] <ic56> !pastebin
[11:45] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[11:45] <nismo> ............
[11:45] <lakai> NONE using firewire currently? :-O
[11:45] <nismo> k
[11:45] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, well take for instance if you had a router that dhcp'd your network to share the internet connection it would connect after configureing the network.
[11:45] <Seveas> !pastebin =~ s/,//
[11:45] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[11:46] <Seveas> !pastebin =~ s/Install/You can install/
[11:46] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[11:46] <rkalsi_VS> chuchyp, yeahm understand, but I am using a wireless conn, & i dont think its connected to that network yet..
[11:46] <Josh43> What charcter is that??  ""
[11:46] <frank23> lakai: ask a more precise question. what firewire device are you trying to use and what is the problem
[11:46] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: do you have encription on the wireless connection?
[11:46] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, K
[11:46] <nismo> ok
[11:46] <nismo> after i go to that link i get the stuff, but there are #'s nxt to it
[11:46] <rkalsi_VS> delph, not at the moment..
[11:46] <nismo> do i paste what i get there?
[11:46] <tristanmike> nismo: now paste the link
[11:47] <nismo> ok
[11:47] <nismo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11005
[11:47] <delphiuk> rkalsi_VS: then, it may well be connected
[11:47] <nismo> brb
[11:47] <nismo> oh wait
[11:47] <_jason> nismo: ready?
[11:47] <nismo> no im not leaving :P
[11:47] <lakai> frank23: i have an ipod and another external firewire disk, none works
[11:47] <rkalsi_VS> delph, ok, let me discnnect it then...
[11:47] <lakai> (anymore)
[11:47] <nismo> ready?
[11:47] <nismo> for que
[11:47] <nismo> whats up
[11:47] <root_> Can anyone help me set up the Nvidia drivers
[11:47] <lakai> i just plug it in and get no response from anything..
[11:48] <_jason> nismo: for the answer, 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and delete the last two nonempty lines then run apt-get update again
[11:48] <nismo> ok
[11:48] <rkalsi_VS> delph, i have reconfigured network & supplied a wrong gateway,
[11:48] <chuckyp> rkalsi_VS, yeah it may be connecting
[11:48] <rkalsi_VS> delph, that shud take care of it, isnt it ??
[11:49] <_jason> nismo: delete lines 4 and 5 too
[11:49] <nismo> ok
[11:50] <nismo> ok
[11:50] <nismo> no more errors
[11:50] <nismo> so should i reinstall firefox?
[11:50] <Kasuko> Anyone?
[11:51] <mirak> there is a problem with dapper and gdm
[11:51] <mirak> and login
[11:51] <dyrne> nismo: it might be taking a chance but dapper is so close to release might consider just dist-upgrading
[11:51] <Stormx2> Oh wow the dependancies on the Skype deb have been fixed... at last!
[11:51] <_jason> nismo: sure
[11:51] <mirak> I switched session and there was the login prompt, but the taskbar where totally accessible
[11:51] <Seveas> Stormx2, ah cool, one more package I can remove from my repo
[11:52] <nismo> well
[11:52] <tristanmike> mirak: visit #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion
[11:52] <nismo> firefox STILL shutsdown
[11:52] <nismo> oh well
[11:52] <Stormx2> Seveas: I havn't tested it out yet mind. They got a new PM of the linux sector of skype and I think its going places at last
[11:52] <tristanmike> nismo: can I please have the link
[11:52] <mirak> tristanmike: merci beaucoup much very
[11:52] <nismo> to the site?
[11:52] <rkalsi_VS> Chuckyp, starting from scratch :(
[11:52] <nismo> er it was like multiple sites
[11:52] <nismo> digg.com for example
[11:54] <nismo> sigh
[11:54] <nismo> i really dont wanna keep hassaling with this
[11:54] <nismo> im gonna go take a break
[11:54] <nismo> thanks for the help
[11:54] <tristanmike> mirak: du rein
[11:55] <Kasuko> Can someone help me get my precompiled headers from terminal
[11:55] <Red-Sox|HL1> hi
[11:55] <zebarbu> hi, I've a question about bash init scripts.
[11:56] <Ohm> Hey guys someone know a client MSN that have a invisible aparency?
[11:56] <NickGarvey> !bash
[11:56] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[11:56] <NickGarvey> mm
[11:56] <rybuntu> i have a creative zen pmc.. ive been trying to mount it in vmware.. but i need the blockstatus of it etc... /dec/whatever there doesnt seem to be one though is this possible?
[11:56] <NickGarvey> not what I was hoping
[11:56] <zebarbu> in /etc/profile, we do nothing if it is NOT an interractive mode (PS1 empty)
[11:56] <arrick> how do I change the default download location?
[11:56] <zebarbu> what bash script is loaded in non-interractive mode?
[11:56] <soundray> NickGarvey: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ any better?
[11:57] <tristanmike> arrick: in what, firefox?
[11:57] <rybuntu> what do you guys recommend using breezy or dapper?
[11:57] <ic56> twn zebarbu
[11:57] <arrick> in terminal
[11:57] <tristanmike> arrick: you mean for wget ?
[11:57] <soundray> rybuntu: breezy if you want to work. Dapper if you want to troubleshoot :)
[11:57] <ic56> zebarbu: there is no special script for non-interactive mode.
[11:57] <arrick> everything goes on the desktop
[11:57] <arrick> yeah
[11:57] <rybuntu> ahum
[11:57] <soundray> rybuntu: seriously, dapper is reasonably stable now.
[11:57] <Kasuko> Can anyone help me get my precompiled headers to install Nvidia drivers or atleast reset them to my old one
[11:58] <tristanmike> arrick: I always thought it was current directory
[11:58] <soundray> rybuntu: but not considered production quality.
[11:58] <rybuntu> soundray: im using dapper.. but just until recently
[11:58] <Keleksi> 25.4. is day of the dapper's release? :P
[11:58] <Ohm> Hey,  someone knows a client MSN who has control of visibility? ????
[11:58] <tristanmike> arrick: are you in the Desktop directory each time you wget ?
[11:58] <ic56> zebarbu: just branch-out from /etc/profile depending on the mode.
[11:58] <NickGarvey> Ohm: what do you mean visibility?
[11:58] <arrick> nope, home diretory
[11:58] <rybuntu> soundray: when is it a good time to start using the unstable
[11:58] <Ohm> let me see
[11:58] <rybuntu> soundray: around flight 3?
[11:58] <zebarbu> ic56: so, i'm supposed to modify file in /etc ?!?
[11:59] <zebarbu> ic56: there is no script in 'user space' in non-interractive?!?
[11:59] <Ohm> a program that when is maximized you can see the desktop for example
[11:59] <tombs> hi all
[11:59] <soundray> rybuntu: that's impossible to answer. It's a matter of taste, and it depends on how good you are at troubleshooting.
[11:59] <McJerry> what is the command to grep a files contents and output in terminal
[11:59] <Ohm> NickGarvey, do you understand?
[11:59] <rybuntu> soundray: breezy has a lot of old versions in its repos i like dappers better
[11:59] <_jason> McJerry: grep?
[11:59] <NickGarvey> Ohm: ah you want transparency!
[11:59] <ic56> zebarbu: note, however, that /etc/profile is only read *once* -- when you login.  /etc/bash.bashrc gets read by all shells, whether login or not.
[11:59] <NickGarvey> riht?
[11:59] <NickGarvey> right*


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