[00:00] <EleanorEllis> Beldar: Yes perhaps. Unfortunately, right now I need to sort some stuff out relating to moving home so I will have to put up with it for now. I am chronically disorganised!
[00:00] <IggyYzzz> Guys you should check out the new Yosemite OS X
[00:00] <Martin204> I’m running it IggyYzzz
[00:00] <Martin204> the public beta
[00:00] <Beldar> !spam | IggyYzzz
[00:00] <IggyYzzz> how u like it?
[00:00] <Martin204> I like it a lot
[00:00] <IggyYzzz> yes I am running beta as well
[00:00] <MoPac> Beldar: in case a driver had been updated
[00:00] <Martin204> the look took a day to get used to
[00:00] <IggyYzzz> i have felt the speed increase form Mav to Yosemite
[00:01] <Martin204> I haven’t noticed much performance difference
[00:01] <IggyYzzz> Yes the look is different
[00:01] <EleanorEllis> Beldar: Is there any chance my problems could be coming from packages?  Did you when you ran the update/upgrade untick the stick in software and updtaes?
[00:01] <IggyYzzz> i am very pleased
[00:02] <Martin204> it’s relatively stable too, just a few graphical bugs I’ve noticed
[00:02] <Beldar> EleanorEllis, Not stupid, however it is an assumption. Would you want your doctor to assume a medical diagnoses?
[00:02] <Martin204> hopefully it’ll be all polished up before they ship it
[00:02] <MoPac> Beldar: no, I didn't....should I untick it?
[00:02] <EleanorEllis> Beldar: Mind you, this installation was a clean install so there shouldn't be any packages from previous installations so maybe I just answered my own question.
[00:03] <Beldar> MoPac, Is this a dual boot, and have you looked to see on the web issue with ubuntu on this computer and or hardware?
[00:03] <IggyYzzz> I have more faith in 10.10  over 10.9
[00:03] <IggyYzzz> I will never go back to 10.8
[00:04] <damian-> Beldar, not entirely sure what i'm looking at with the script output, http://pastebin.com/dSqtVDHj ?
[00:04] <IggyYzzz> 10.10 just feels more snappy to me upon opening apps and browsers.
[00:04] <user123321> Beldar, I made it :D Thanks :D
[00:04] <MoPac> Beldar: it's not a dual boot...at the moment I'm just testing it out by booting straight from the live USB without installing. It's a very new platform, and I haven't seen anybody running Ubuntu on this specific model yet, what with the tablet mode and orientation shifting ability
[00:04] <EleanorEllis> Beldar: I wouldn't want my doctor to assume a diagnosis (mind you they usually do anyway) but I would want them to consider possible problems with any course of treatment they proposed. And it seems like only prudence to address what I am worried about rather than ignoring something niggling in the back of my mind in the hope it will go away, just in case it comes back to bite me on the arse.
[00:04] <Martin204> xcode 6 is pretty nice looking
[00:04] <Beldar> user123321, Cool, no prob. ;)
[00:05] <MoPac> Beldar: I'm wondering if there is any generic place within Ubuntu that I can go to look for settings for touchscreens, orientation sensors, etc?
[00:05] <IggyYzzz> Yeah I had to re install a few things. I did not do a fresh install. I did an upgrade
[00:05] <IggyYzzz> sloppy upgrade
[00:05] <OerHeks>  Martin204 IggyYzzz OSx is offtopic, please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support
[00:05] <Beldar> MoPac, I have n o lvm experience so can't help. Besides here I would use the ubuntu forums and post that script and a new one if you make any changes.
[00:06] <IggyYzzz> sorry guys
[00:06] <IggyYzzz> i will stop
[00:06] <Beldar> damian-, ^^^^^^^^^^^ sorry MoPac used your nick by accidesnt
[00:06] <MoPac> Beldar: No problem, thank you for patiently juggling
[00:07] <Beldar> MoPac, Not sure only thing I have with touch is a nexus 7 running android.
[00:07] <damian-> thanks for the help Beldar, lol
[00:07] <damian-> actually you might be able to help in another way. i have /boot on a completely seperate partition, is there a way i can simply wipe that and start fresh?
[00:08] <Beldar> to much or not enough caffeine
[00:08] <Beldar> damian-, I beleieve lvm has that boot partition for a reason not sure really.
[00:08] <ObrienDave> never enough caffeine ;P
[00:08] <damian-> ahh, i figured i just set it when i installed
[00:08] <EleanorEllis> Beldar: The other reason I haven't detached my home yet is that I don't have either a printer or a second PC so once I am limited to the command line in a recovery console, I don't have any way of looking up more information or asking for more help. All I have at that point is what I have written down in my notebook so I need to gather the right information before I do that so I don't mess up at that stage. At the moment, I have a (most
[00:09] <EleanorEllis> Beldar: But anyway, thank you for your help so far. And thank you to the other people who helped me, even though I now can't remember their names.
[00:10] <mint> can someone here help me install linux mint, its already installed on a usb flash, and i want to install it on the hard drive
[00:10] <Ben64> !mint | mint
[00:10] <Beldar> EleanorEllis, As my last communication, I will say I think you will ahve to bite the bullet and do a fresh install and add your needed stuff, I.E start over again, we all get there or will at some point it is just part of the process.
[00:11] <Beldar> I fresh install every release myself
[00:12] <Beldar> and no separate home ever
[00:16] <Beldar> MoPac, Found this with a google search of "ubuntu touch screen wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen
[00:17] <angel_> hi, i require help to configure a bluetooth keyboard on ubuntu but  keyboard. i tried the menu options but i get a fail every time
[00:17] <Beldar> MoPac, more for you, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=touch+screen
[00:18] <jakesyl> hey guys so ssh works but when i try sftp i get this git.io/FtwgOQ
[00:19] <jakesyl> woops url is actually git.io/FtwgOQ
[00:20] <bluegoon> When I leave my PC, and come back, I have a black screen, when I move my mouse etc, nothing happens.. using Ubuntu.
[00:20] <saiarcot895> jakesyl: Did you try adding brackets around your IPv6 address?
[00:21] <Beldar> bluegoon, Ubuntu has a lock screen stock people have had a black screen issue, chek the lock screen settings and the prompt to com back to desktop.
[00:22] <jakesyl> *smh* ashamed thanks saiarcot895
[00:22] <jr_> When I try to install ubuntu the screen just freezes with the mouse on it
[00:22] <jr_> and nothing happens
[00:22] <Beldar> or unlock gui prompt bluegoon
[00:22] <bluegoon> Beldrar, ok thanks, ill check it out
[00:22] <Beldar> jr_, When in the install, and where are you installing from, and your cpu and ram info.
[00:23] <jakesyl> is there anyway to disable ssh for an account?
[00:23] <jakesyl> but keep sftp enabled
[00:23] <jr_> Beldar: Cd and I don't know my cpu/ram info.
[00:24] <Beldar> jr_, Ubuntu does not fit on a CD?
[00:24] <jr_> Beldar: virtual cd
[00:24] <jak2000> Beldar: you mean: sudo apt-get purge java-6-openjdk
[00:24] <jr_> Beldar: this is a virtualized server
[00:24] <Beldar> jr_, Not sure what that is, can you define exactly?
[00:25] <Beldar> what vm app
[00:25] <jr_> Beldar: the computer isn't real. I'm not sure, I got this VNC server from a hosting company. All I am able to do is remotely log into it in order to install the OS
[00:25] <Beldar> jak2000, If java-6-openjdk is the install command yes.
[00:25] <JamesJRH> k1l_: Apparently Files is the last part to go other than accounts which is staying. Ubuntu One accounts is effectively just Launchpad OpenID; as with Ubuntu SSO, the only thing it now adds to Launchpad OpenID is a defunct brand.
[00:26] <engineeredmess> hello
[00:26] <Beldar> jr_, Never done that, others may know.
[00:26] <jr_> Beldar: i do believe that you still may be able to help me here.
[00:26] <Beldar> jr_, I doubt it.
[00:27] <Beldar> channel of over 1500 people lets give them a chance
[00:28] <Mobutils> jr_: What hosting company out of curiosity?
[00:28] <jr_> Mobutils: alienvps
[00:30] <arayaq> Hi! I have a problem with my dpkg database, everytime I try to read it throws an error. Very likely due to a hard drive failure.
[00:32] <arayaq> Here is the output when trying to install anything: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7909721/
[00:32] <arayaq> Is there a way to recover a working state?
[00:33] <jr_> Mobutils: never use 123 System Solutions...unless you can speak hindi and don't mind waiting a week 1/2 to have something done
[00:33] <Beldar> arayaq, Ubuntu has a built in smartcheck disks top right corner dropdown.
[00:33] <Beldar> live and installs
[00:33] <Mobutils> jr_: thanks for the tip.
[00:33] <Mobutils> lol
[00:34] <jr_> lol
[00:34] <angel_> hi, i require help to configure a bluetooth keyboard on ubuntu but  keyboard. i tried the menu options but i get a fail every time
[00:34] <angel_> hi, i require help to configure a bluetooth keyboard on ubuntu i tried the menu options but i get a fail every time
[00:35] <arayaq> Beldar: S.M.A.R.T test only show temperature errors problems, I guess that corrupted the hard drive
[00:36] <Mobutils> jr_: kind of looks like this is simmilar to a rackspace or aws, your os is setup during the inital server instance creataion.
[00:37] <Mobutils> so you setup a server with them and are looking to install Ubuntu instead of whatever is currently on it?
[00:37] <angel_> how do i add a usb keyboard to ubuntu 14.04. and yes i googled it already
[00:38] <Mobutils> you plug it in.
[00:38] <jr_> Mobutils: it is.
[00:39] <angel_> i have ubuntu installed on a tablet, how can i make the touch keyboard appear?
[00:40] <Mobutils> angel_: sudo apt-get install onboard
[00:40] <Mobutils> then run onboard
[00:41] <Mobutils> i guess without a keyboard that may be difficult. is sshd enabled?
[00:42] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/9432955   how to remove:   java-7-openjdk-amd64   i try: sudo apt-get purge java-7-openjdk-amd64 but not work   i need erase all java packages (for do clean java installation)
[00:43] <angel_> Mobutils, thanks. how do i make it dissaper when i don't need it/appear when i do?
[00:43] <Mobutils> good question… not sure,
[00:44] <Mobutils> let me check
[00:44] <buriedalive> sudo aptitude purge java-7-openjdk-amd64
[00:44] <Beldar> jak2000, I never use grep but often see it used here, find the commands to list all your java stuff.
[00:44] <jak2000> buriedalive testing...
[00:44] <buriedalive> sudo aptitude purge ~java
[00:45] <jak2000> Beldar: i do sudo updatedb    and then  sudo locate jdk
[00:45] <Beldar> gotta have apptitude installed is all
[00:45] <jak2000> sudo aptitude purge ~java    <-- remove all java packages?
[00:46] <buriedalive> yes
[00:47] <Beldar> !bluetooth
[00:47] <Beldar> angel_, ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[00:48] <angel_> Beldar, i already did that. bluetooth is installed but i can't make the keyboard work
[00:50] <Beldar> angel_, Without any real details the channel is not much help, unless someone is real motivated to help and willing to spend the time it takes.
[00:51] <the_wisenerd> would someone know how to start testdisk deeper scan from a particular sector? It takes too long for an entire harddisk scan... I already know my partition table, sort of...
[00:51] <angel_> Beldar, which details you need?
[00:52] <Beldar> angel_, None hear I wont spend the time, however exactly what you have tried and where it has failed is a start.
[00:52] <Beldar> a theme of it's not working is just ti broad
[00:52] <Beldar> to*
[00:52] <Lasrod_> Hi. I have a build script that, when I run it manually it works fine. However when our build server application is executing this it does not find the compiler. The path to the compiler is set in the PATH environment variable, however it seems like the build server application does not have this set. What is causing this not to be found by the application compared to when running manually?
[00:57] <vibedigital> hi! i'm doind some tests with tiger. it's takes how much time for audit ?
[00:58] <buriedalive> Lasrod_: -> sh ./ path/to/script/namescript
[00:59] <buriedalive> and
[00:59] <buriedalive> chmod +x /path/to/script/
[01:01] <master__> auxilio por favor
[01:01] <master__> tengo unproblema con ardour
[01:02] <master__> el problema radica en que no puedo utilizar mi interface
[01:02] <vibedigital>  http://pastebin.com/fQ9qrkVd#
[01:03] <EleanorEllis> !es | master
[01:03] <Mobutils> awesome, a spanish speaking bot.
[01:03] <master__> gracias
[01:04] <EleanorEllis> Mobutils: It speaks other languages too. !fr
[01:04] <EleanorEllis> !fr
[01:04] <buriedalive> cool really)
[01:06] <jak2000> Beldar, buriedalive: http://pastie.org/9432985   not work :( how to remove all java stuff?
[01:07] <Mobutils> awesome, a multi lingual bot.
[01:07] <buriedalive> jak2000: god
[01:08] <jak2000> buriedalive typed something wrong?
[01:08] <Beldar> jak2000, I did not suggest that command
[01:08] <Beldar> or any aptitude
[01:08] <buriedalive> sec, I will find it
[01:11] <buriedalive> I'll find
[01:11] <buriedalive> http://eldoradozpua.blogspot.ru/2013/11/ubuntu-java.html
[01:11] <buriedalive> I think understand
[01:12] <buriedalive> recursively
[01:12] <LiamW> hey all
[01:13] <LiamW> I have a shiny new build, Ubuntu installed as only OS, proprietary nvidia drivers installed, etc
[01:13] <buriedalive> Beldar: well?
[01:13] <Beldar> buriedalive, well what?
[01:13] <buriedalive> Beldar: http://eldoradozpua.blogspot.ru/2013/11/ubuntu-java.html
[01:14] <LiamW> most things are working very well. however, whenever I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to tty1 the entire system locks up. I can no longer reach it via ssh and the numpad light on the keyboard stops responding.
[01:14] <Beldar> buriedalive, You want applause, I did not ask for help.
[01:14] <buriedalive> Beldar: no no
[01:14] <LiamW> that also means that Ctrl+Alt+F7 to try to get back to X doesn't work either
[01:14] <jak2000> is for me? right
[01:15] <buriedalive> Beldar: say to work after
[01:15] <Beldar> !cookie | buriedalive
[01:15] <Beldar> ;)
[01:15] <jak2000> :)
[01:15] <buriedalive> no
[01:15] <Beldar> than be sure not to explain, lol
[01:18] <buriedalive> just I rally want to help)
[01:19] <jak2000> buriedalive accept a pm?
[01:19] <buriedalive> 8-20 am)
[01:20] <jak2000> private message :)
[01:20] <buriedalive> and you?
[01:20] <jak2000> here 7:20 pm my gmt is -7
[01:21] <buriedalive> cool
[01:21] <buriedalive> u from?
[01:21] <jak2000> mexico
[01:21] <jak2000> and you?
[01:21] <buriedalive> russia
[01:21] <jak2000> you are connected on russian network?
[01:21] <jak2000> not
[01:21] <buriedalive> of course
[01:22] <buriedalive> russia
[01:22] <jak2000> wich server?
[01:22] <fabz> hello world !
[01:22] <buriedalive> wait, what do u mean?
[01:23] <jak2000> buriedalive see a private message
[01:23] <buriedalive> irc serv?
[01:23] <jak2000> yes irc serv
[01:24] <jak2000> Beldar: you remember this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SECVGN4Bsgg
[01:34] <sample_user> hello?
[01:34]  * sample_user hears crickets.
[01:34] <LiamW> *chirp*
[01:34] <Mobutils> *chirp.
[01:34] <Mobutils> damn
[01:35] <Mobutils> to slow
[01:35] <sample_user> lol
[01:35] <sample_user> For a channel with 1500 people in it, it's pretty quiet in here.
[01:35] <LiamW> nah
[01:36] <Mobutils> you have only been on for like 3 min
[01:36] <sample_user> Fair enough.
[01:36] <klemax> I have some problems such as sound sizzle while watching videos on youtube or dailymotion.
[01:37] <Mobutils> oh the infamous sizzle problem….
[01:38] <klemax> Mobutils: yeah, do you have any idea about how to fix?
[01:39] <Mobutils> no clue man, that’s not much to go on.
[01:40] <mavidoritos> can i use pure debian with only openbox?
[01:40] <mavidoritos> i dont want to use xfce or lxde or gnome or any others
[01:40] <mavidoritos> i tihnk it will be faster with only openbox
[01:40] <loekanle> is this were people get  tech support??
[01:41] <loekanle> I need help with my linux distro????
[01:41] <Beldar> loekanle, What does the channel header say?
[01:42] <Beldar> Official Ubuntu Support Channel  not linux but ubuntu
[01:43] <loekanle> Ok good Im in the right place then, my ubuntu 12.04 wont get pass the loading screen
[01:43] <Beldar> mavidoritos, Ask debian they hace a channel.
[01:43] <Beldar> have*
[01:43] <LiamW> loekanle: are you unable to log in?
[01:44] <mavidoritos> Beldar, ok mate thanks :)
[01:44] <LiamW> loekanle: or is it worse? are you never presented with the greeter?
[01:44] <loekanle> yes  when I hit control & ALT & T I get
[01:45] <loekanle> Iposted pics https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/conky/+question/252199
[01:46] <loekanle> it doenst get past greeter it stuck on the purple screen just loading
[01:46] <LiamW> loekanle: press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[01:46] <LiamW> are you presented with a textual login screen?
[01:47] <loekanle> Ok ill try that Im running on my windows right now, I will log off and back onto ubuntu
[01:48] <loekanle> if it work thanks
[01:48] <LiamW> loekanle: I suggest that if you have another computer, stay connected there
[01:51] <Nesh> Hi, can anyone help me out with a problem I have with dual booting ubuntu ?
[01:51] <LiamW> sure
[01:51] <Mrloafbo1> exit
[01:52] <Nesh> Thanks, for some reason ubuntu doesn't show up on the boot menu when i start my computer
[01:52] <LiamW> Nesh: do you have grub currently installed?
[01:52] <Nesh> I've done a boot-repair and this was given http://paste.ubuntu.com/7909314/
[01:53] <Nesh> I'm not actually sure if I have it installed or not
[01:53] <LiamW> if you don't, you can still boot ubuntu with super grub disk
[01:53] <samuel> any way to ignore csrf tokens for specific routes?
[01:54] <LiamW> Nesh: sorry, that paste link is timing out
[01:54] <LiamW> ok, loaded
[01:54] <crazyman> hı all
[01:54] <LiamW> Nesh: did your computer ship with Windows 8 installed?
[01:55] <Nesh> Yes it was preinsalled
[01:55] <LiamW> Nesh: are you aware that your EFI bootloader is in a mode known as "secure boot"?
[01:56] <samuel> any way to ignore csrf tokens for specific routes?
[01:56] <Nesh> I wasn't aware of that, I thought I had disabled it
[01:56] <LiamW> you'll still be able to boot ubuntu with Super Grub2 Disk but I would probably abandon all hopes of starting it with grub
[01:56] <crazyman> türk varmı lan
[01:57] <mavidoritos> crazyman, var
[01:57] <crazyman> güzel
 you'll still be able to boot ubuntu with Super Grub2 Disk but I would probably abandon all hopes of starting it with grub  Why would you say that?
[01:57] <crazyman> bu ne sıcak ya
[01:57] <LiamW> Beldar: I've tried to deal with that pesky secure boot thing before with plenty of google and I could not figure it out
[01:58] <LiamW> maybe I just followed directions wrong, idk. but I couldn't do it
[01:58] <Beldar> LiamW, That does not mean others with more experience can't.
[01:59] <LiamW> Beldar: it could have also been a UEFI bug/hardware problem as well
[01:59] <annoymouse> Hey
[01:59] <Beldar> LiamW, If you have no real answers than leave it for those that might. Making statements sound resolute is not helping
[02:00] <annoymouse> Can I run Ubuntu 14.04 as a LiveCD
[02:00] <ObrienDave> annoymouse, yes, you can
[02:00] <Beldar> annoymouse, dvd yes
[02:00] <annoymouse> as in on a flash drive with persistence?
[02:00] <ObrienDave> yes
[02:00] <Beldar> annoymouse, Yes, however it has limitations research those.
[02:00] <annoymouse> and how would I do that?
[02:01] <LiamW> I'd use UNetBootin
[02:01] <ObrienDave> using unetbootin to burn ISO to USB
[02:01] <annoymouse> Beldar: Like what?
[02:02] <Beldar> Nesh, The ubuntu forums besides here has help I would make a thread there with uefi in the header and post the script.
[02:02] <ObrienDave> annoymouse, burn ISO to DVD, use DVD to install to USB. it becomes a complete stand alone system that way
[02:02] <Beldar> annoymouse, I can't walk you through every issue, what is your end goal?
[02:02] <benyamin> hello... can anyone help me? i have a problem with nvidia that cause my start up screen change into a such kind of terminal and that make me weird looking at it. i have try fixing on grub and also adding framebuffer=y but still, not working well, only shutdown splash back to normal.. can anyone help? i really happy if its.. thanks allot!
[02:03] <annoymouse> ObrienDave: I can't install directly to a USB?
[02:03] <LiamW> benyamin: add "nomodeset" to the kernel parameters
[02:03] <annoymouse> Beldar: Is there any major features that will be missing
[02:04] <Beldar> annoymouse, Can you read posts I asked a specific question.
[02:05] <annoymouse> Beldar: ?
[02:05] <ObrienDave> annoymouse, read up ^^^^^
[02:05] <Beldar> Beldar> annoymouse, I can't walk you through every issue, what is your end goal?
[02:05] <annoymouse> Just to mess around with Ubuntu
[02:05] <annoymouse> not really a specific goal
[02:05] <annoymouse> I just want to check it out
[02:06] <Beldar> annoymouse, Ah well I would use a virtual for that.
[02:06] <Beldar> or just install
[02:06] <annoymouse> Install on my main partition?
[02:06] <annoymouse> not really an option for me
[02:06] <Bashing-om> benyamin: How did you attempt to install(s) the Nvidia graphics driver ? .. How you did install dependes on what to do, to correct the problem.
[02:07] <ObrienDave> annoymouse, no, install to USB
[02:07] <Beldar> annoymouse, Main partition?
[02:07] <annoymouse> Beldar: Yes. As in replace my OS
[02:08] <Beldar> annoymouse, If you have a large enough usb say 8 gigs than do a full install, and be sure to get help on this.
[02:08] <Mrono> I'm trying to get wifi working on the thinkpad t540p, the ucode is there for iwlwifi-7260-7.ucode but it's not seeing the card
[02:08] <Mrono> bluetooth does work
[02:08] <annoymouse> Beldar: Help from where?
[02:09] <ObrienDave> help from here
[02:09] <Beldar> annoymouse, This is ubuntu support how about here.
[02:09] <annoymouse> That's what I came to do
[02:09] <annoymouse> I have my flash drive ready
[02:09] <Beldar> really
[02:09] <Beldar> ObrienDave, All yours bro.
[02:10] <ObrienDave> Beldar, nope, your team ;P
[02:10] <fenix01> hi
[02:10]  * Beldar checks his samual jackson quotes
[02:10] <ObrienDave> rofl
[02:10] <fenix01> for i use pc and internet i am very sick
[02:11] <morpheus_gr> annoymouse, did u check this? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[02:11] <annoymouse> I'm on Mac
[02:11] <fenix01> do you know it ?
[02:11] <Beldar> Mrono, Run lspci and identify just the wifi hardware
[02:11] <Mrono> Beldar: it finds the wireless adaptor
[02:12] <Beldar> Beldar> Mrono, Run lspci and identify just the wifi hardware
[02:12] <ObrienDave> annoymouse, that would have been nice to know from the beginning
[02:12] <annoymouse> ObrienDave: No one asked me what OS I was running lol
[02:12] <morpheus_gr> annoymouse, there are also instructions for osx http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[02:12] <Beldar> !mac | annoymouse might be worth reading in general
[02:13] <Beldar> future use maybe
[02:13] <morpheus_gr> although as mentioned earlier if u just want to try it why don't you setup a virtual machine instead?
[02:14] <benyamin> err... any suggestion for my problem?
[02:14] <ObrienDave> annoymouse, and you did not think that would be important?
[02:14] <ObrienDave> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Mac_OSX
[02:14] <Beldar> benyamin, You had three answers
[02:14] <Mrono> Beldar: it see's the wireless, how do I use it
[02:15] <Beldar> Mrono, Do you understand my request?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> benyamin: My last ^^ .
[02:15] <Mrono> Beldar: aparently not
[02:15] <benyamin> @bashing-om : i just install from repo
[02:15] <Beldar> Mrono, In ubuntu open a terminal type lspci and in the data shown find the wifi hardware and post it to the channel.
[02:16] <benyamin> before i install from .run package.. so i think if i use the repo it could be better... but stilll -___-
[02:16] <Mrono> Beldar: oh you want me to post it here, sorry
[02:16] <benyamin> i fix it using this... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.binarytides.com%2Fubuntu-fix-nvidia-graphics%2F&ei=9qbZU7qwDIiwuATgp4GoDw&usg=AFQjCNEHX_X_R4yGAKsOmR28W-d2lMUZHg&sig2=n64O6ei7CA2u5lNxmWPOFw
[02:17] <annoymouse> morpheus_gr: Those directions seem to be about making an installer
[02:17] <Bashing-om> benyamin: Makes things easier then .. OK, can you get to the desk top when you boot from a 'recovery' kernel in grub's boot menu ?
[02:17] <Mrono> Beldar: 04:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192EE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[02:17] <annoymouse> morpheus_gr: I want to run Ubuntu permanently from the USB
[02:17] <benyamin> what means? i'm don't understand.. :s
[02:18] <benyamin> i'm in my desktop now(?) {my laptop}
[02:19] <Beldar> Mrono, some realteks are a hassle some work just fine, here are three threads, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=RTL8192EE
[02:19] <morpheus_gr> annoymouse, it will work as a live usb
[02:19] <damian-> any of you guys know much about LVM installs? (i have no idea what they are..). but trying to do a grub-install results in 'warning: file system ext2 doesn't support embedding'
[02:19] <annoymouse> with persistence though?
[02:19] <Bashing-om> benyamin: " install from .run package" Now, that makes it the more difficult.
[02:20] <benyamin> oh, i'm not using it. i using from the additional driver. err.. i just read it back.. you mean i must reboot my computer and go to recovery mode?
[02:20] <ObrienDave> annoymouse, that is the limitation of the 'live' USB. however, is you do a real install to the USB it becomes a stand alone system. which is what you want
[02:21] <ObrienDave> *if you
[02:21] <morpheus_gr> annoymouse, not really but also check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2174630
[02:21] <Beldar> Mrono, Probably worth looking around this google search while waiting, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=ubuntu+RTL8192EE+&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1
[02:21] <Bashing-om> benyamin: In order in sinstall any other driver, first is to remove the driver from the .run file ..
[02:22] <annoymouse> ObrienDave: Is there anyway to avoid requiring two USB drives though?
[02:22] <Bashing-om> s/sinstall/install
[02:22] <benyamin> now. i just fresh install my xubuntu and yesterday i just install the nvidia driver
[02:23] <ObrienDave> annoymouse, yes, burn ISO to DVD. use DVD to install to USB. i can't give you specific Mac instructions
[02:23] <annoymouse> I mean avoid requiring two data storage devices
[02:24] <LiamW> annoymouse: if you're really concerned, just use unetbootin
[02:24] <Beldar> !who | benyamin you want this
[02:24] <benyamin> @beldar : ok
[02:25] <ObrienDave> unetbootin only makes a live USB, you have to INSTALL to USB if you want a stand alone system
[02:25] <benyamin> !tab
[02:25] <Beldar> benyamin, You can tyoe the first few letters of a nick and complete with the tab key
[02:25] <LiamW> on most clients
[02:25] <Beldar> very good
[02:25] <benyamin> bash !tab test
[02:25] <benyamin> !tab bash test
[02:25] <Beldar> not a client issue its thew freenode OS
[02:26] <benyamin> @beldar : argh -___- manual is better...
[02:26] <jakesyl> is there a 1 line adduser wrapper i can use to add a user and set a pass?
[02:27] <Beldar> benyamin, Honestly if you don't understand tab complete I have little hope for you on a nvidia issue. ;)
[02:27] <Meaux> Hi all!
[02:27] <Beldar> jakesyl, Where
[02:27] <jakesyl> what do you mean where, add a user to an ubuntu server?
[02:27] <Beldar> here your os the bank
[02:28] <benyamin> @Beldar : uhmmm okay. but how?
[02:28] <Beldar> benyamin, Type bel and hit the tab key
[02:28] <jakesyl> benyamin hit tab and it'll complete the current dir that you were typing
[02:28] <Meaux> Tab is your best friend
[02:28] <Martin204> cd ~
[02:29] <Meaux> Anyone know how to set the client side encryption/hash with LDAP?
[02:29] <benyamin> Beldar, oh god :s i'm some kind of jerk, but it's workin
[02:29] <LiamW> oh man, I just remember to install zsh
[02:29] <jakesyl> cd ~/[starttypingoneletter] *tab*
[02:29] <Beldar> benyamin, very nice. ;)
[02:29] <ObrienDave> there is hope for benyamin yet ;P
[02:30] <TJ-> jakesyl: I thought we covered that with that script yesterday?
[02:30] <Beldar> LiamW, For the record this is not chat, or guessing.
[02:30] <benyamin> Beldar, can you help me :o I'm sometimes not focus on the chat i just wake up and get bad cough -____- (Sorry)
[02:30] <benyamin> ObrienDave, okay, what kind of hope :o
[02:30] <jakesyl> TJ-  it was impossible to implement as a subprocess in python... sorry ;(
[02:30] <SidBR> algum BR aqui?
[02:30] <Beldar> benyamin, I have no real nvidia experience is all.
[02:30] <TJ-> jakesyl: how do you mean, as a sub-process?
[02:31] <Beldar> !pt | SidBR
[02:31] <benyamin> Beldar, u use noveau?
[02:31] <jakesyl> but ya i even tried doing the calculations outside of the subprocess
[02:31] <TJ-> jakesyl: why would it not work as a sub-process?
[02:31] <Beldar> benyamin, No real graphic experience to be honest, much better helpers than me in this
[02:32] <Bashing-om> benyamin: let's see if a script is available to remove the proprietary driver. What returns from terminal command -> sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" <- . This command will take some time to complete, wait for it to complete.
[02:32] <renebarbosa> SidBR, /j #ubuntu-br lots of brazilians there
[02:32] <jakesyl> then someone over at #python said he thought there was a wrapper and TJ- absolutely no idea, if i had more time i would paste my output but i only have 5 minutes just needed to know if there was a wrapper
[02:33] <benyamin> Bashing-om, errr, why i should remove propierty driver?
[02:33] <TJ-> jakesyl: I don't understand where the Python comes in ... are you trying to integrate the functionality into a Python script?
[02:33] <jakesyl> TJ- yes
[02:34] <Bashing-om> benyamin: I understand that tou have a graphics issue with your xubuntu system, that you 1st attempted to install a driver from Nvidia, and next tried to install from "Additionnal Drivers" utility, and still have a graphics problem . no ?
[02:34] <Bashing-om> tou/you*
[02:35] <damian-> no one at all can help me? :'(
[02:35] <jakesyl> damian- what's your question?
[02:36] <jakesyl> awesome the plane has wifi
[02:36] <jakesyl> woops wrong irc
[02:36] <damian-> i'm having issues reinstalling the grub bootloader onto my system after a release-upgrade buggered it. not sure how it's done when i'm (apparently?) using lvm?
[02:36] <TJ-> jakesyl: does the Python script run as root (so it doesn't need to invoke via "sudo bash /path/to/script.bash" ?
[02:36] <damian-> just errors out when i do grub-install saying 'file system ext2 doesnt support embedding'
[02:36] <jakesyl> nope sudo not su
[02:36] <Beldar> !user | jakesyl
[02:37] <jakesyl> Beldar, i'm writing a shell script that's being executed by a python subprocess
[02:38] <Beldar> cool
[02:38] <benyamin> Bashing-om, only for startup screen, otherwise normal
[02:38] <Martin204> su su sudio
[02:39] <jakesyl> wait tj- where in this script do you actually say adduser:
[02:39] <TJ-> jakesyl: If you need python to be able to execute a privileged script, you could specify it in sudoers as "... NOPASSWD: /bin/bash /path/to/script" to allow the python process user ID to invoke the script
[02:40] <jakesyl> that's so much easier, but would i have to be sudoer
[02:40] <jakesyl> su*
[02:40] <jakesyl> also why nopasswd
[02:40] <damian-> nopasswd means you don't need sudoer, doesn't it? :P
[02:40] <benyamin> Bashing-om, i install my driver from additional driver
[02:40] <Bashing-om> benyamin: "startup screen" is that also the grub boot menu, that you are refering to ? ?
[02:40] <TJ-> jakesyl: The user account running the python script would need to have the entry in the sudoers file, and you'd need to be able to add that entry of course
[02:40] <TJ-> jakesyl: the script when I left it with you last night was https://gist.github.com/iam-TJ/893716f37936fc411dbd
[02:40] <benyamin> Bashing-om, splash screen plymouth
[02:41] <benyamin> Bashing-om, the grub working normaly
[02:41] <jakesyl> but why the no passwd
[02:42] <TJ-> jakesyl: so that when the python script exec's "sudo /bin/bash /path/to/script" the 'sudo' doesn't cause a prompt for the user account password
[02:42] <Bashing-om> benyamin: I regret to say, I know little of how xubuntu invokes the splash screen, others will have to advise.
[02:42] <jakesyl> so anyone with an account sshing in can exec this script with no password?
[02:43] <TJ-> jakesyl: Assuming the Python process is unprivileged (not executing as root) then it'd need that in order to execute the script successfully, since adduser and usermod require root privs
[02:43] <jakesyl> and to execute as root would i have to be sudo or su?
[02:43] <TJ-> jakesyl: No, only the user account(s)/group(s) named in sudoers
[02:44] <jakesyl> okay i can do that' so just skip the no password
[02:45] <benyamin> Bashing-om, it also happened to my ubuntu 14.04 lts before, i just reinstall xubuntu because i love mice(huh -___-)
[02:45] <TJ-> jakesyl: why would you skip the NOPASSWD ? The point of that is to allow the script to run successfully as a sub-process of python, without user interactivity. I thought that was what you were trying to achieve.
[02:45] <jakesyl> TJ- here's my problem all my users are sshing in and i don't want them to freely be able to add users, which if i understand correctly they could do with NOPASSWD
[02:45] <benyamin> Bashing-om, just kidding, but i really replace my ubuntu with xubuntu. hopping better things happened, but still same. i hope :( a lot...
[02:46] <TJ-> jakesyl: OK, as normal users they can't add users without elevated privileges.
[02:46] <jakesyl> okay got it
[02:47] <TJ-> jakesyl: I thought, from your description, that you have some kind of Python long-running daemon that based on user interaction is able to add a user in the background. Maybe I mis-understood. That is the solution I've been addressing with the sudoers and NOPASSWD
[02:47] <benyamin> Bashing-om, btw, forget about it.. i think only splash screen doesnt change anything, hehe... i also have problem with XIM on xubuntu, can you help me? i just try and browse anything in the internet, no one reffer about XIM on Xubuntu. they removed i bus :(
[02:48] <jakesyl> no that's about right
[02:49] <jakesyl> wait is there an extension to bash files
[02:49] <Mrono> .sh i think
[02:49] <SchrodingersScat> jakesyl: #bash would say no
[02:49] <TJ-> jakesyl: OK, so the question now becomes is it trivial for any user to cause that script to add a user? If so then adding to sudoers is a security risk. If the python script is in total control of whether the useradd functionality can be used by the user, then it could use the sudoers solution
[02:50] <Bashing-om> benyamin: I just do not know what could affect the splash screen and still able to boot to a good graphics on the desk top, maybe you have edited the '/etc/default/grub' file ( removed splash ??).
[02:51] <TJ-> jakesyl: Depends... if you want to make clear a file is a bash script without having to inspect it, putting .bash helps. I use .sh and .bash to differentiate my scripts where I don't expect to turn them into full executables
[02:51] <jakesyl> wait tj- problem with adding the file to bin/bash, no way to add arguments (i don't think)
[02:52] <Mrono> how do I reverse install -d
[02:53] <TJ-> Bashing-om: benyamin: I've seen plymouth splash corruption when GRUB starts in graphics mode and hands over to the OS which expects the console to be in a different mode, which means its writes to screen look corrupted
[02:53] <TJ-> jakesyl: you mean "/bin/bash /path/to/script arg1 arg2 arg3" ? that is perfectly fine
[02:54] <reborn> hey.
[02:54] <reborn> i plan to install netflix by ppa, but is it only 64-bit?
[02:54] <Beldar> Mrono, I would add the context of the use of install -d
[02:55] <buriedalive> hello reborn:
[02:55] <buriedalive> Beldar: so?
[02:55] <Beldar> !ppa | reborn
[02:55] <Mrono> Beldar: I am attempting to reverse the commands on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190347&page=2
[02:55] <jakesyl> so TJ- my only question is, i see where you read usernames and stuff but where do you actually call add user
[02:55] <TJ-> jakesyl: line #15
[02:55] <Mrono> Beldar: I ran make -n install to see what it did and one of them was install -d "/usr/share/-dkms"
[02:56] <jakesyl> k thanks
[02:56] <buriedalive> Beldar: so what?
[02:56] <reborn> i just asking for if is it only 64-bit?
[02:56] <Beldar> Mrono, I would use the ubuntu forums  chili555's the best help in this area there.
[02:56] <Mrono> alright, thanks :)
[02:56] <buriedalive> mm
[02:56] <jakesyl> thanks for all your help TJ- gtg
[02:56] <Beldar> reborn, Look at the ppa's web page.
[02:57] <TJ-> jakesyl: The script could just as easily take $1 as username and $2 as password, which could be passed in on the command-line from Python, or set via the environment first (to prevent the password being visible in "ps" output
[02:58] <buriedalive> sudo aptitude purge ~njava
[02:58] <buriedalive> Beldar:
[02:58] <jakesyl> ya i'll just take args, do you think it's better to do the password stuff in shell or python
[02:59] <TJ-> jakesyl: If Python is the controlling process it'd be best to take them there and pass them to the script, so the script isn't interactive with the user in any way
[02:59] <benyamin> anyway. thx
[02:59] <Bashing-om> benyamin: Not sure I understand xim = "custom compose key sequences " ??
[02:59] <reborn> thanks, i got it.
[02:59] <Beldar> cool
[03:01] <buriedalive> alright
[03:01] <TJ-> jakesyl: I've updated the bash script now (just refresh the page) so it checks if there are 2 arguments on the command-line. If there are it uses those and doesn't prompt for the username/password
[03:02] <jakesyl> thanks!
[03:02] <Bashing-om> TJ-: IRT benyamin " GRUB starts in graphics mode and hands over to the OS which expects the console -> " that would indeed be a learning experience for me .
[03:03] <TJ-> Bashing-om: These days by default GRUB sets a graphical console (on non EFI boots) unless "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" is set
[03:06] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Yeah, I am aware of that one ( learned the hard way), and have played about with exporting the display. I do look to learn more about grub and the booting process // all in due time and effort.
[03:06] <TJ-> Bashing-om: When it works it is great... when it fails....!
[03:07] <Bashing-om> TJ-: When it fails it gets interesting !
[03:07] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I challenged myself a couple years back to get the background to be the same from GRUB splash, through plymouth, the greeter, and finally my user desktop... that was how I learned about this part!
[03:08] <_Nicco_> Hi would anyone care to provide a link to show me how to add something to my PATH environment variable
[03:09] <Loshki> _Nicco_: maybe this? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-adding-path/
[03:09] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Now that is "reading the code" ! To know what is happening .
[03:09] <TJ-> _Nicco_: "export PATH="$PATH:/my/additional/dir"
[03:10] <_Nicco_> TJ-, thanks
[03:10] <_Nicco_> I'll try that
[03:10] <TJ-> Bashing-om: yeah, I had a great photo of the Angel of the North (landmark in N.E. England) ... trouble was, I couldn't read the console text messages easily whether white or black text, so I abandoned it :)
[03:10] <buriedalive> cool, now I know
[03:13] <buriedalive> .to /bashrc
[03:14] <buriedalive> ?
[03:15] <Bashing-om> TJ-: I only messsed about with that a little bit, I did find means to change the text colors, but was never real pleased .. in the end I find I like fast and simple more// There remains more about grub I do not know than what I do !
[03:16] <damian-> OK! i've installed grub again, but now i don't know how to actually boot my OS. any help would be appreciated, successfully boot into grub>
[03:16] <TJ-> Bashing-om: Yeah... it's really powerful under the hood. I use encrypted /boot/ partition with GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y too
[03:17] <Bashing-om> damian-: Logical Volumn Management is out of me sphere of knowlege, but - I would expect that the boot code must reside out side of LVM and in a seperate /boot partition ???
[03:18] <damian-> well, i wiped the entire /boot partition (as it was fscked)
[03:19] <damian-> but i copied all of it to my root/tboot
[03:19] <damian-> so that SHOULD have the linux kernel in it, correct?
[03:19] <TJ-> damian-: So, you have a "grub>" prompt right now? or a "rescue>" ?
[03:19] <damian-> grub>
[03:20] <damian-> and if i do 'ls (lvm/leonardo-root)/tboot' i get a list of my old /boot
[03:20] <buriedalive> fdisk -l
[03:20] <buriedalive> see
[03:20] <damian-> fdisk invalid command
[03:20] <buriedalive> root
[03:20] <buriedalive> sudo
[03:20] <damian-> only have boot, cat, configfile, initrd, insmod, linux, loop, ls, lsmod, normal, search, set, vbeinfo
[03:20] <TJ-> damian-: OK ... I can probably give you the commands you need but you may have to fiddle them a bit if you see errors
[03:20] <damian-> i think i have to linux <kernel> before i can do anything?
[03:21] <damian-> that's alright TJ-, i am good at fiddling :d
[03:21] <TJ-> damian-: "set prefix=(lvm/leonardo-root)" or possibly "set  prefix=(lvm/leonardo-root)/tboot"
[03:22] <TJ-> damian-:  then  "set  root=(lvm/leonardo-root)/tboot"
[03:22] <damian-> yup
[03:22] <TJ-> damian-: now you should be able to do "linux vmlinuzXXXXXX" to select the kernel
[03:23] <TJ-> damian-: And, if I recall correctly, "initrd initrd.imgXXXXXX" to select the matching initial ramdisk
[03:23] <damian-> okily dokily, lemme see what vmlinuz's i have
[03:23] <damian-> vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic
[03:24] <TJ-> damian-: So this is a 14.04 Trusty install :)
[03:24] <Bashing-om> damian-: I help ya in the thought process, as I can .. the kernel does reside in /boot, but grub must call it from the boot code that is installed elsewhere, say perhaps the stage 1 boot code is installed to the MBR ( sector 0), I do not know how to define that path to say /boot/grub for the remainder of the boot code.
[03:24] <damian-> bugger, it seems the i386-pc directory didn't copy across with the rest of my /boot contents
[03:25] <damian-> which means modules aren't there
[03:25] <TJ-> damian-: Argggh!
[03:26] <damian-> lol, i agree.
[03:26] <damian-> do you know of a way to reinstall the kernel/modules from the rescue prompt?
[03:26] <damian-> i think that could be the past piece of my puzzle
[03:28] <TJ-> damian-: it might still boot... but I forgot, the "linux..." line needs the "root=/path/to/root/file-system" as well, so I guess you'd need to do "linux /vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic root=/dev/mapper/leonardo-root vt.handoff=7 single"
[03:29] <TJ-> damian-: If GRUB's core.img has the file-system modules built-in (it looks to have since you can list the file-system in an LVM LV), then that might get you into Recovery mode
[03:29] <Sirena> Loads of people in here.
[03:29] <TJ-> damian-: when all that is done, use "boot" to try to boot with those settings
[03:29] <damian-> nah, she still bugs out with couldn't find linux.mod
[03:30] <damian-> (tried both the set prefix's that you suggested above as well)
[03:30] <TJ-> damian-: OK, let's cheat here :)
[03:30] <damian-> i like cheating
[03:30] <buriedalive> damian-: dont run
[03:30] <TJ-> damian-: You installed grub-pc package to that system?
[03:30] <buriedalive> for bug
[03:30] <damian-> i don't know what that means. i did grub-install /dev/sda
[03:31] <buriedalive> and?
[03:31] <damian-> and restarted, which put me to this prompt.. lol
[03:31] <TJ-> damian-: Do this: "insmod /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/linux.mod" and tell me if it works ?
[03:31] <TJ-> damian-: ignore that!
[03:31] <TJ-> damian-: Do this: "insmod (lvm/leonardo-root)/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/linux.mod" and tell me if it works ?
[03:32] <Sirena> Let's see if I can get this thing to install outside of Winderhz
[03:32] <damian-> lol, that almost worked; came up with video.mod not found
[03:32] <buriedalive> hm hm
[03:33] <damian-> can i just set my path to (lvm/leonardo-root)/usr/lib/grub ?
[03:33] <TJ-> damian-: OK so... "insmod (lvm/leonardo-root)/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/video.mod" first
[03:33] <damian-> prefix, rather
[03:33] <TJ-> damian-: if you change root or prefix then it'll affect finding the kernel
[03:34] <damian-> ah
[03:34] <Beldar> Sirena, I you need help just ask.
[03:34] <TJ-> damian-: Try it... you can change it back once you've loaded all the required modules after all
[03:34] <TJ-> damian-: We only need to get you started into Linux once, then you can fix grub from there
[03:34] <damian-> cool, i set the prefix to ^^ then insmod linux and it worked fine
[03:35] <damian-> so if i change it back and do 'linux ..' to load the linuz *cross fingers*
[03:35] <TJ-> damian-: I've generated a sorted list of the contents of the grub-pc-bin package that contains all the modules, so you can look them up easily as needed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7910804/
[03:36] <TJ-> damian-: before you can do "boot" you'll need to do "insmod boot" too
[03:36] <damian-> ahh cool, thanks
[03:37] <buriedalive> You do not understand, never updated if it works
[03:37] <buriedalive> why need?
[03:37] <damian-> linux vmlinuz* results in (lvm/leonardo-root)/tboot not found
[03:37] <damian-> lol buriedalive, because it told me to.. duh!
[03:38] <Blue1> I have an old compaq presario (vintage 2001) -- xubuntu works fine except for flash - tried gnash - almost works but not quite - suggestions?
[03:38] <TJ-> Blue1: avoid Adobe Flash
[03:38] <Blue1> TJ-: what will work on something that old?
[03:39] <Sirena> This OS has come quite a way.
[03:39] <Bashing-om> damian-: TJ- :: Fot think'n purposes, I can boot my "normal" insta;; -> linux (hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz root =dev/sda1 ro , initrd (hd0,msdos1)/initrd.img , boot <-. Where "prefix and root " and "insmod" are already set. Do we just need to define the hard drive and where the kernel's files are located  for booting LVM ?
[03:39] <damian-> yeah
[03:40] <damian-> well my kernel files (should) be in (lvm/leonardo-root)/tboot -- as long as i did copy them all over
[03:41] <damian-> cool, i think i go tthat
[03:41] <TJ-> Blue1: for what? I mean, avoid trying to display flash code at all. Adobe no longer support it on Linux so any security vulnerabilities leave you open
[03:41] <damian-> linux (lvm/leonardo-root)/tboot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic root=/dev/sda1 ro
[03:41] <damian-> didn't fail..
[03:41] <damian-> now boot......
[03:41] <buriedalive> stop
[03:42]  * damian- halts
[03:42] <TJ-> Bashing-om: The problem here is "insmod normal" "normal" is only good where the /boot/grub/i386-pc/ directory, and the /boot/grub/grub.cfg, exist
[03:42] <Bashing-om> TJ-: damian- :: something like (hd0,lvm/leonardo-root)/boot/grub ... then ???
[03:42] <TJ-> Bashing-om: and damian- is missing those, so we're having to do the menu.cfg script's job manually
[03:42] <Beldar> Blue1, Is this ancient computer your only one?
[03:42] <damian-> i think 'lvm/leonardo-root' takes over the 'hd0' part
[03:43] <TJ-> damian-: you need to use the correct linux... line!
[03:43] <damian-> before we continue, i'm just going to try something
[03:43] <buriedalive> use eselect kernel list
[03:43] <TJ-> damian-: "linux /vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic root=/dev/mapper/leonardo-root ro vt.handoff=7 single"
[03:43] <damian-> (because i crashed the machine when i boot)
[03:43] <buriedalive> eselect kernel set numberofkernel
[03:44] <buriedalive> and restructurize
[03:44] <Blue1> Beldar: no -- I am trying to ressurect this for a friend.
[03:44] <buriedalive> emerge -1 @module-rebuild
[03:44] <TJ-> damian-: ensure you've reset "set root=(lvm/leonardo-root)/tboot"
[03:45] <damian-> yup
[03:45] <damian-> i'm just going to reconfigure something first
[03:45] <Blue1> TJ-: flash is required to run flash videos
[03:45] <damian-> and let me say, i really appreciate your help
[03:45] <Blue1> such as youtube
[03:45] <Beldar> Blue1, Oka is it their only computer, the point being is using it in a safe way.
[03:45] <TJ-> Bashing-om: in the root device definition, lvm is in place of hd0 ... it indicates an lvm device, as opposed to hd0 indicating the first physical hard disk (as reported by BIOS)
[03:46] <buriedalive> with your device not a way
[03:46] <nholloway2007> I have an Authentec 2665 driver. There are no drivers for it. Where would I go to get an intro to writing my own?
[03:46] <TJ-> Blue1: I wouldn't touch it... it is so full of security holes, and not been updated by Adobe since 2012
[03:46] <buriedalive> just wait
[03:46] <TJ-> buriedalive: Do you require support for an Ubuntu issue?
[03:46] <Blue1> TJ-: I understand that -- that said -- I still need it so they can use youtube and some functions on facebook --
[03:46] <buriedalive> TJ-: I'm not sure
[03:47] <TJ-> buriedalive: Please take other comments to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:47] <Blue1> TJ-: like it or not, security flaws and all - it is very much a part of the net landscape ---
[03:47] <Sirena> I think I'm finally about to install.
[03:48] <TJ-> damian-: let me know how you're getting on... its almost 5am here and I'd like to get back to bed ;)
[03:48] <Beldar> Sirena, This is support not chat, keep that in mind.
[03:48] <Sirena> Ahh, I assumed that.
[03:48] <buriedalive> TJ-: to need?
[03:49] <damian-> lol, cool
[03:49] <damian-> well i'm just taking a dig around. it seems the /boot/grub/i386-pc folder is there, i just needed to put 'grub' in the prefix
[03:49] <Beldar> Blue1, Are you all like in a desolate section of the world and this old computer is the only option?
[03:50]  * ObrienDave is ;P
[03:50] <Blue1> Beldar: for this person, yes.
[03:51] <Blue1> Beldar: I would not be at this juncture if there were another option
[03:51] <damian-> i have booted into the recovery mode (so i have at least functions), now trying an apt-get --reinstall on the linux kernel
[03:52] <damian-> as (i believe) it boots from the disc, but then uses my root / boot partitions afterwards
[03:52] <damian-> so hopefully this will create all of the files i need in their proper place, and might even make me a grub.cfg? :P
[03:52] <Beldar> Blue1, That is your words however we don't know the options available or if you know either. Honestly this is hard to believe and even that it will run xubuntu in any functional way.
[03:54] <TJ-> damian-: ensure you do "grub-install ..." and "update-grub" *and* read the generated "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" to ensure it looks correct and that core.img finds the correct /boot/
[03:54] <damian-> thanks
[03:54] <damian-> it looks like that failed anyway, 'subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 17'
[03:54] <Blue1> Beldar: it runs xubuntu perfectly -- except for flash.
[03:54] <damian-> but i do have a kernel in my /boot now
[03:55] <TJ-> Beldar: xubuntu runs great on older hardware... I still have a couple of 2002 Sony Vaio notebooks which run fine with 256MB orf RAM
[03:55] <buriedalive> TJ-: why he is update
[03:55] <buriedalive> he over update
[03:55] <damian-> woo. update-grub has found my linux image.. has found my root ..
[03:55] <damian-> generating grub config
[03:56] <damian-> i have no idea what the grub.cfg is meant to look like tho
[03:56] <ObrienDave> buriedalive, do you need Ubuntu support?
[03:56] <buriedalive> ObrienDave: okey
[03:57] <Blue1> xubuntu is great on old hardware
[03:57] <Beldar> Sure, however that this is the only option is hard to believe, there are organizations to help those that need help, that is really the point I wonder if has been exhausted.
[03:57] <damian-> TJ-, does this look ok: http://pastebin.com/bf4wHtj9
[03:59] <Beldar> a hobby is nice but using a tool not needed when other option may be around is not the best use of the situation, but that is my opinion.
[04:01] <Blue1> Beldar: there is an economic need here -- I am sorry If I seem to have wasted your time- that was never my intention
[04:02] <damian-> nope, she buggered still. lol
[04:02] <damian-> 'error: diskfilter writes are not supported' and then crashes
[04:02] <Beldar> Blue1, No waste of my time. Your goal flash needed.... TJ- don't use flash this makes no sense in any communication resulting in an agreement is all.
[04:03] <Beldar> just seems like a one sided argument with no resolution
[04:04] <Blue1> that I can't argue
[04:04] <Beldar> Blue1, Have you tried the chrome browser?
[04:04] <TJ-> damian-: looking (was away repairing a bite in a cycle tire!)
[04:05] <TJ-> damian-: no... you also need to run "update-initramfs -uvk all" then redo "update-grub"
[04:05] <damian-> lole damnit
[04:05] <damian-> i already rebooted, lemme see
[04:06] <TJ-> damian-: sorry... I was busy outside :0
[04:06] <damian-> nah you're right :P
[04:06] <damian-> what are you doing outside at 5am!
[04:06] <TJ-> damian-: repairing a cycle puncture... looks like a dog bit it !
[04:06] <damian-> lol, while you were riding it.. or in your yard? :|
[04:07] <Blue1> Beldar: I did that aborts with an odd crash.
[04:07] <OERIAS> Thanks Ubuntu! Now I am definitely migrating
[04:07] <TJ-> damian-: long story... it had a slow puncture yesterday, so my BF left it out to see how long it took to deflate since we couldn't find a leak... he also played with the Huskies with it ... I found it fully deflated with a gaping hole.  I don't use social media myself, but other seem to have a draw to it.
[04:08] <Blue1> Beldar: it aborts with an "illegal instruction" so it's not happy about something -
[04:08] <damian-> because if female, i have to tell my partner that a lady helped me with a linux issue.. she believes that women don't exist in IT with any knowledge
[04:09] <TJ-> damian-: are you getting to the grub menu now? If so, you can edit the Ubuntu entry - possibly - to use the existing initrd.img in /tboot/
[04:09] <damian-> i'm booting back into recovery atm
[04:09] <Blue1> Beldar: tell me about the youtube watcher
[04:09] <Beldar> without a browser I meant Blue1
[04:09] <TJ-> damian-: LOL ... nah, sorry to spoil your fun on that one :)
[04:09] <damian-> bugger
[04:09] <ObrienDave> OERIAS, most welcome
[04:09] <TJ-> damian-: later :p
[04:09] <Beldar> Blue1, minitube
[04:10] <damian-> alright 'update-initramfs -uvk all' is running now
[04:10] <Blue1> Beldar: thanks let me try that
[04:10] <damian-> also, how do i manually edit the ubuntu entry (theres four or five in there - i dont know if it's booting to the correct one)
[04:10] <damian-> or does this command do that for me
[04:12] <Beldar> Blue1, I use the flash in the ubuntu repos and have never had a problem, this is linux you are not running the browser in root not that hard to use it safely.
[04:12] <Bashing-om> damian-: With the kernel line highlighted, 'e' key for edit mode.
[04:12] <TJ-> damian-: "update-initramfs" regenerates the /boot/initrd.img-XXXXX files
[04:13] <damian-> alright, both commands have been processed
[04:13] <TJ-> damian-: once that is done, you need to do "update-grub" to regenerate the /boot/grub/grub.cfg so it includes those initrd.imgXXXX files
[04:13] <damian-> you know, i've been running this VM for the last year and a half with 1gb ram + 1vpu .. didn't even realise
[04:13] <TJ-> damian-: pastebin the /boot/grub/grub.cfg and WAIT whilst I check it :)
[04:13] <damian-> saw it when this shit broke, now the server is flying
[04:13] <damian-> hahahah, cool gimme 2secs
[04:14] <TJ-> damian-: by default, the first entry in grub.cfg is the default boot entry
[04:14] <TJ-> damian-: the "update-grub" scripts in "/etc/grub.d/" that create grub.cfg list the most recent kernel versions first, so it should always boot the most recent kernel by default
[04:14] <damian-> http://pastebin.com/BCMvMpuX
[04:15] <TJ-> damian-: OK, I can see one issue there
[04:15] <damian-> yup
[04:16] <Blue1> Beldar: :-( - didn't work - i actually tried it on my 64 bit system (minitube) and it would not work on that either...
[04:16] <TJ-> damian-: It looks as if the "/etc/default/grub" doesn't have some settings, or is missing... can you "pastebinit /etc/default/grub" ?
[04:17] <damian-> http://pastebin.com/0Gg3FsGc
[04:18] <Beldar> Blue1, If it were me I would install the xubuntu-restricted-extras and use the computer safely as any one would use any other.
[04:18] <Beldar> the extras has flash
[04:19] <TJ-> damian-: ahhh, that is OK... this is a server isn't it? so no "splash quiet" on the linux command line
[04:19] <TJ-> damian-: OK, I think it is good to go
[04:19] <ObrienDave> minitube works for me
[04:19] <Beldar> Blue1, I would use a lighter de is all
[04:20] <JerryCC> Did Justin Bieber see Selena Gomez naked?
[04:20] <damian-> yeah, she's a server
[04:20]  * damian- crosses fingers
[04:20] <Beldar> Blue1, like openbox with tint2
[04:20] <Beldar> !topic | jerrcs
[04:21] <Beldar> JerryCC, ^^^^^^^^^^^ sorry jerrcs
[04:21] <Blue1> Beldar: I previously installed the xubuntu restricted extras
[04:21] <OERIAS> Ubuntu is selling out to the corporations. Disgusting #debian
[04:21] <damian-> still comes up with 'error: diskfilter writes are not supported.' on the *Ubuntu boot... but she's still going
[04:21] <Beldar> OERIAS, Don't let the door hit you on th way out. ;)
[04:22] <Blue1> Beldar: I can support xubuntu -- the other one - I have never used.  other then the flash issue xubuntu works well
[04:22] <damian-> The disk drive for /boot is not ready yet or not present.
[04:22] <damian-> but, i have a feeling that /boot is now on my root drive
[04:22] <Beldar> Blue1, What is the issue?
[04:22] <damian-> instead of on the boot partition
[04:22] <damian-> services look like they are booting
[04:23] <TJ-> damian-: You can move that around if that's the case
[04:23] <damian-> yeah
[04:23] <Blue1> Beldar: flash crashes the plugin -- I tried gnash -- which uses a 10.1 version of flashplugin -- while that "runs" it is too old to display youtube videos
[04:23] <damian-> i SHOULD just be able to remove it from my /etc/fstab yeah?
[04:23] <damian-> she boots!
[04:23] <damian-> she's unhealthy.. but she boots!
[04:24] <damian-> [sudo] password for damian:
[04:24] <damian-> no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[04:24] <Beldar> Blue1, Does the computer have the max ram it can run?
[04:24] <TJ-> damian-: if you don't want to keep the separate /boot/ you would need to yes, otherwise the empty  /boot/ FS will mount and hide the /boot/ in the root-FS
[04:24] <redninja> hello
[04:24] <damian-> i don't need a seperate boot partition, that was just default with the install
[04:25] <redninja> can i get help with some knowledgeable with ubuntu and reading micro SD cards?
[04:25] <damian-> well, she's up and running TJ-. i really thank you for your help with this
[04:25] <damian-> like i said, she isn't very healthy by the looks of it, but she's up!
[04:26] <damian-> from here i can at least migrate to a newer, healthier system properly
[04:26] <TJ-> damian-: Yay! shouldn't take too much now :)
[04:26] <Blue1> Beldar: it has 512 meg o ram -- which is plenty for xubuntu
[04:26] <ornj> Anybody wanna help me get a printer up and running? Or where would I go for that?
[04:26] <damian-> actually, the errors stopped after the second boot
[04:26]  * damian- hugs TJ-
[04:26] <ornj> What are min req. for Xubuntu?
[04:26] <TJ-> damian-: :)
[04:26] <ornj> n/m
[04:26] <ObrienDave> redninja, what is the issue?
[04:26] <damian-> you're my new best friend
[04:26] <ornj> I'm sorry, I can just look that up
[04:26] <Blue1> ornj: iirc 256
[04:27] <Mobutils> ahh, we are making friends!
[04:27] <ornj> I was more thinking processor, Blue
[04:27] <ADW> this is the best!
[04:27] <ornj> but thanks  :)
[04:27] <TJ-> well, this friend is finally off to bed for snuggles and sleeps! night all
[04:27] <ornj> I have a PII but will probably put SliTaz on it
[04:27] <damian-> have a good one, thanks again
[04:28] <Beldar> Blue1, I would not say plenty but yes it seems to run xubuntu, I think there are options and some youtube will run, there are low def vids. The right light desktop and use should work within limitations is all, I would max the ram is all.
[04:28] <ObrienDave> ornj, which brand of printer?
[04:28] <ornj> Canon
[04:29] <redninja> i had an old phone htc windows phone and about a year ago i lost it and i found it today buried in mud i got it cleaned and pulled the micro sd card and wanted to grab the pictures and other stuff i saved the card looks in great shape but everything i load it into says it needs to be formated due to incompatible file system and i was hoping using ubuntu i could grab the files and transffer it to a thumb drive but im having problems h
[04:29] <Blue1> Beldar: if I can find ram for a machine that is almost 14 years old
[04:29] <redninja> the card and im using a multi card reader
[04:29] <Blue1> Beldar: the problem is NOT the amount of ram --
[04:29] <Bashing-om> damian-: A small detail "GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true" per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 , should now be set to false.
[04:30] <damian-> thanks Bashing-om
[04:30] <Beldar> Blue1, Never said it was.
[04:30] <ObrienDave> redninja, let the card dry out for a couple of weeks and try again
[04:30] <ADW> and put that mamma jamma in some rice
[04:31] <Bashing-om> damian-: I learned a bit too from TJ- ! .. makes it all worth the while .
[04:31] <redninja> the card was never covered in mud and liek i said looks still brand new and it can be read on other phones and my windows just says incompatible filesystem
[04:31] <ornj> yeah it's not "just" a card with connectors it's got a whole little computer inside it
[04:32] <ObrienDave> redninja, ok, put card in another phone and transfer the files using USB
[04:32] <Beldar> oh looks brand new it must work.........yeah that was sarcasm
[04:33] <Jeffrey_f> redninja: put the sd card in a pile of rice for a few days
[04:33]  * ornj whines to Jeffrey_f
[04:33] <ornj> "But I wannit NOOOOOWWWWW...."
[04:33] <ObrienDave> redninja, did the card get wet?
[04:34] <Blue1> Beldar: thank you for all the suggestions -- I need a bit of a break -- if you think of anything I may have overlooked please private message -- thanks
[04:34]  * Jeffrey_f whines BUT YOU CAN'T
[04:34] <ornj> He swears it didn't, but I can't imagine it didn't get a little misty on the inside, hangin out in a wet phone that long
[04:34] <ornj> Jeffrey_f>>> Oh. :(
[04:34] <Jeffrey_f> LOL @ ornj
[04:35] <redninja> every phone i put it in doesnt recognize it.  and beldar im not stupid its being read just not on ubuntu if it was still wet inside the moment i put power to it would fry it.  and im not new to ubuntu i tried finding it via gparted and it still doesnt find it and  lsusb sees it its just not pulling up i was hoping you guys might know something of an issue and not use sarcasm for someone who has a question btw before you ask yes i tri
[04:36] <Beldar> redninja, wasn't directed at you in general.
[04:36] <ObrienDave> redninja, "and liek i said looks still brand new and it can be read on other phones" your words
[04:37] <Beldar> just that the statement means nothing
[04:37] <Jeffrey_f> redninja: If the sd card is waterlogged, you may end up wiping the card if you put power to it.  put it in some rice and let it dry out
[04:37] <redninja> no the card wasnt wet and the mud the phone was covered in was dried up and the sd card connectors we complety clean and free of debris and no problem beldar
[04:37] <Beldar> still means nothing it works or it does not.
[04:38] <blackyboy> how to do chroot in ubuntu
[04:38] <redninja> i was wondering if maybe there is an issue with ubuntu reading insignia multicard readers like it did with realtek a little while back
[04:39] <ObrienDave> redninja, that is possible
[04:39] <Beldar> mechanical matters are one of the few incidences when things are dichotomies
[04:40] <Blue1> blackyboy: this may/may not help:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/  this does a chroot
[04:40] <blackyboy> Blue1: thanks for the link let me check
[04:40] <redninja> k well thanks for the help guys
[04:42] <Bashing-om> blackyboy: Booting bios or EFI ?? the method for CHange Root differs.
[04:43] <blackyboy> Bashing-om: nope just i want to know what is chroot
[04:44] <Bashing-om> blackyboy: : ) , synopsis -> do in terminal: man chroot .
[04:46] <Beldar> blackyboy, Probably easier to use. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[04:48] <Beldar> blackyboy, Commonly we use a chroot to get to an install from a live dvd/usb to have a root terminal in that install.
[04:52] <blackyboy> Beldar: yes faced a issue before 2 weeks ago, there was a dual boot machine and accidentally i have deleted the 100MB Boot partition of windows 7, because of that after reformatting windows i can't log-in into Ubuntu, that time i struggled a lot, there are important files in Ubuntu,  finally backup-ed the whole system using a Ubuntu live cd and reformatted to get fix, in this kinda situation this will be helpful so what i want to know about it.
[04:57] <xubuntu893> W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/dists/etch/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]  W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]  E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used
[04:57] <xubuntu893> Problem with that, please help me
[05:00] <xubuntu893> deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main
[05:01] <zubir> bruh
[05:01] <OERIAS> xubuntu893, try #xubuntu
[05:01] <xubuntu893> no guy man stop
[05:01] <zubir> BRUH
[05:01] <xubuntu893> you guys are sending me from channel to channel
[05:02] <xubuntu893> Ya Zubir ?
[05:02] <zubir> wat u need help with lil xubu?
[05:02] <xubuntu893> People told me Trusty is not supported no more
[05:02] <xubuntu893> I have to change errything to Wheezy or Weezy ?
[05:02] <zubir> not really no
[05:02] <zubir> but look up
[05:02] <ObrienDave> no, they told you ETCH is not supported
[05:03] <xubuntu893> WHAT'S IS ETCH XD
[05:03] <zubir> look upapt-get dist-upgrade
[05:03] <zubir> you should be fine still using wheezy
[05:03] <xubuntu893> It starts
[05:04] <xubuntu893> I'm on trusty
[05:04] <zubir> trusty w/e
[05:04] <zubir> brb need to poop
[05:04] <xubuntu893> I'm dead xD
[05:04] <dsfsdfgfd> Hello, whats the difference between debian and ubuntu
[05:04] <zubir> dsfsdfgfd: mainly packages
[05:05] <dsfsdfgfd> what about the base and kernel
[05:05] <OERIAS> dsfsdfgfd, Debian is superior in terms of packaging and stability.
[05:05] <ObrienDave> xubuntu893, you need to get rid of the etch repos in your sources list
[05:05] <Mobutils> ubuntu is forked from debian, a lot of it is simmilar, like the package manager
[05:05] <dsfsdfgfd> so debian is more minimal, yes ?
[05:06] <OERIAS> dsfsdfgfd, plus you don't get a ton of shit like Ubuntu.
[05:06] <ObrienDave> OERIAS, don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you
[05:06] <dsfsdfgfd> LOL
[05:06] <Beldar> blackyboy1, Generally removing the boot in W7 is an easy fix, you need the recovery or install disc and a few commands on the terminal of recovery and a the C partition being live.
[05:06] <zubir> dsfsdfgf: debian is less "cutting edge" in the sense that the distro doesn't push the newest stuff unless it's been extensively bug tested
[05:06] <Beldar> boot partition*
[05:06] <Mobutils> go slackware if you want minimal…
[05:07] <zubir> hence why it's considered to be more stable
[05:07] <zubir> when you download debian 7, the kernel that comes with it is 3.2
[05:07] <zubir> when the newest kernel is like 3.15 now
[05:07] <Beldar> can we take the off topic to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:08] <zubir> no
[05:08] <Beldar> and debian to #debian
[05:08] <Mobutils> lol
[05:09]  * Beldar waves his cane at the offtopic and says "get off my lawn"
[05:13] <xubuntu893> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ trusty/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_dists_trusty_partner_binary-amd64_Packages) W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ trusty/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_dists_trusty_partner_binary-amd64_Packages) W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ trusty/partner i
[05:13] <xubuntu893> That's what happened at the end of  : apt-get dist-update
[05:14] <xubuntu893> And now I did apt-get update
[05:14] <xubuntu893> W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/dists/etch/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]  W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]  E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:14] <xubuntu893> same message again
[05:15] <LostNva> im no expert but it seems  you need to edit/fix sources list
[05:15] <xubuntu893>  /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[05:15] <Beldar> xubuntu893, Make a new sources list with this. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[05:16] <LostNva> yes you have duplicates, and at least one removed you need
[05:16] <SamwiseGamgee> Does anyone here know how to use Redo Backup?  I'm using version 1.0.4
[05:16] <Bashing-om> xubuntu893: Check the "/etc/apt/sources.list" file and the "/etc/apt/sources.list.d" directory for the duplicated entry // remove the 'etch' entry.
[05:17] <ssarah> so i got this bash script. it just has a bunch sudo commands in it. But i want it to work not only through command line, but also double click
[05:17] <ssarah> how i do it?
[05:18] <xubuntu893> deb http://ftp.debian.org etch main I remove this one ?
[05:18] <SamwiseGamgee> It's called Redo Backup and Recovery is an application from SourceForge used to backup partitions and to recover data.  It uses a Linux based OS and comes on a live CD.  So, has anyone here ever used this program?
[05:19] <Beldar> SamwiseGamgee, Might be easier ways, what is the end goal, just backups, a clone?
[05:19] <SamwiseGamgee> I am trying to recover data from a compact flash card
[05:20] <SamwiseGamgee> It seems to be working, but my only problem is the destination partitions don't make any sense
[05:20] <hyde> ookay, this is strange. Just upgraded 12.04-14.04, and keyboard doesn't work in Chromium (using web irc client, had to switch to Firefox to be able to write here...). Everything else I've tried seems to work, but not Chromium.
[05:20] <s2013> im using this tool that prints out to console how would i make it so it prints out to a file?
[05:20] <s2013> do i need to use cat?
[05:20] <SamwiseGamgee> they have weird names and numbers that don't make any sense to me
[05:20] <SamwiseGamgee> I am trying to save the recovered files to a location on one of my hard drives, but the names of the parttions are fracked up
[05:21] <s2013> or is it echo
[05:22] <SamwiseGamgee> there appear to be three directories: one is called  "drwx- - - - - - - 0   0   280 31 July 2014"
[05:22] <Bashing-om> xubuntu893: Yes remove " deb http://ftp.debian.org etch main" as it is no longer supported.
[05:22] <hyde> somecommand > standardoutput.txt
[05:22] <hyde> s2013: ^
[05:22] <s2013> let me try
[05:23] <SamwiseGamgee> the other is called drwxr-xr-x   0 0  0   220   31 July etc
[05:23] <s2013> thank you so much
[05:23] <s2013> i think its working
[05:23] <SamwiseGamgee> the third directory is called -rw-r - - r - -      0     0     40960  31 July 2014
[05:23] <s2013> anyone has tips on how to edit a 20 gig file?
[05:23] <s2013> i just really need to remove something from the first line and something from the last line
[05:23] <hyde> s2013:  note: if you need to redirect standard error, then it's a bit different. But most programs print actual error messages to standard error, and you want to see those yourself.
[05:24] <SamwiseGamgee> Redo Backup uses the LXTerminal
[05:24] <s2013> hyde, im changing how a json file looks
[05:24] <hyde> (just saying this, in case you see output even when you redirect with > and wonder what that is)
[05:25] <SamwiseGamgee> It is forcing me to choose one of the three directories, since I have three hard drives, does that mean that each of those directories represents a hard drive?
[05:26] <ObrienDave> all i'm seeing are permission flags and dates, not sure about the rest
[05:26] <SamwiseGamgee> Oh, I only have two hard drives, but there are those three directories I listed above
[05:26] <hyde> s2013: mmm... some sed or awk one-lines ought to be able to do that. though you need to rewrite the entire file, if you remove from beginning... If it's enough if you just (for example) replace first line with spaces, then you could use a hex editor and edit file in-place
[05:27] <s2013> k let me try one thing at a time .thaks
[05:27] <SamwiseGamgee> How can I make sense of these bizarre directory names on the LXTerminal of Redo Backup?
[05:31] <SamwiseGamgee> Does anyone here know how to use Redo Backup and Recovery?
[05:32] <hyde> SamwiseGamgee: you could try `stat` command
[05:32] <SamwiseGamgee> where do I enter the stat command?
[05:33] <hyde> it's a command line command
[05:33] <SamwiseGamgee> it did not work
[05:33] <SamwiseGamgee> what's the command for listing all the drives and directories?
[05:34] <hyde> mount lists all mounted file systems
[05:34] <SamwiseGamgee> Give me a safer command
[05:34] <kostkon> SamwiseGamgee, it is safe
[05:34] <hyde> ?
[05:34] <hyde> just don't run it as root
[05:35] <SamwiseGamgee> If I mount, do I have to unmount when I'm done?
[05:35] <LostNva> mount lists, does that list all mounted?
[05:35] <hyde> (and iven as root, there's nothing unsafe with mount, really, that was more of a general advice)
[05:35] <Loshki> fdisk -l
[05:36] <hyde> or `cat /proc/mounts` gives about same info as `mount`
[05:36] <hyde> unless you have a rootkit or something, which hides mounts, then that should list all mounted filesystems, AFAIK ;)
[05:36] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, i'll try 'mount'
[05:37] <eeee> SamwiseGamgee: if you only want the disks/partitions, use lsblk
[05:37] <SamwiseGamgee> yeah, that sounds better
[05:37] <hyde> SamwiseGamgee: what exactly is the problem you are trying solve? restore backup? copy backups to somewhere else? what?
[05:38] <SamwiseGamgee> I am trying to restore pic files from a compact flash on a PC running Windows XP
[05:39] <SamwiseGamgee> the destination directories have bizarre names that make no sense
[05:39] <SamwiseGamgee> so I don't know where to put the recoverred files
[05:40] <hyde> ah, so you have the files on normal Linux (home directory or whatever), and want to copy them to the CF? or the other way? or what?
[05:41] <hyde> anyway, lsblk should show if Linux sees the CF, and also apparently show if it is mounted.
[05:41] <FredddyTom> i know the anwser is probably no
[05:41] <FredddyTom> but is there anyway in nautilus to sort 1.1  1.2 1.3 1.5.10 etc ?
[05:41] <SamwiseGamgee> the files are JPEG pic files on a compact flash from my digital camera, and I am trying to recover them and put them on a PC running Windows XP
[05:41] <SamwiseGamgee> Redo Backup uses Linux
[05:42] <SamwiseGamgee> I found the partitions where I can put them, but the names do not match the 3 directories they are forcing me to choose from
[05:45] <ObrienDave> those "names" look more like a corrupted directory table to me
[05:47] <SamwiseGamgee> there appear to be three directories: one is called  "drwx- - - - - - - 0   0   280 31 July 2014"
[05:47] <LostNva> SamwiseGamgee: what caused you to get to that point
[05:48] <hyde> SamwiseGamgee: that paste doe snot list the directory name...
[05:48] <SamwiseGamgee> the second is called drwxr-xr-x   0 0  0   220   31 July etc
[05:48] <hyde> as far as I can see
[05:48] <ObrienDave> the "drwx- - - - " are permission flags
[05:48] <SamwiseGamgee> the third directory is called -rw-r - - r - -      0     0     40960  31 July 2014
[05:48] <SamwiseGamgee> the destination partition I want to use as a destination is sdb (1.4 TB)
[05:48] <hyde> try just `ls` without -l, what does it list
[05:49] <SamwiseGamgee> It has several subdirectories:  sdb1 30G, sdb2, 1K, sdb5 100 G, sdb6 200 G.....sdb9 400 G
[05:49] <ObrienDave> SamwiseGamgee, those are not directory names
[05:49] <ObrienDave> those are partition names, not directories
[05:49] <SamwiseGamgee> yes, that is exactly the problem
[05:49] <SamwiseGamgee> the names do not match
[05:50] <ObrienDave> they are NOT the same thing
[05:50] <SamwiseGamgee> therefore, there is nowhere to put the files, at least no known partitions
[05:50] <SamwiseGamgee> yes, that is my problem
[05:51] <hyde>  find . -maxdepth 1 -print0 | xargs -0 stat
[05:51] <SamwiseGamgee> they are not the same thing: I need to find out where the directories are located, in which partitions, so I know where the files are going
[05:51] <hyde> SamwiseGamgee: ^ you might try that, and put output to pastebin, then maybe someone can make sense of your situation.
[05:51] <hyde> but now I'm off, good luck!
[05:52] <hyde> (and as general advice, do `man find`, `man xargs`, `man stat` before running random command from irc channel :)
[05:52] <SamwiseGamgee> Even if I found out where to put those files, how would I access them using Windows XP?
[05:53] <SamwiseGamgee> Would I have to show invisible files, or use the command prompt?
[05:53] <brucelee> can anyone tell me about ubuntu packages, where apt-get update works on one server, but doesnt on another. They're both apt-get updating from a apt cache server
[05:53] <brucelee> for some reason it gives me a 502, resource temporarily unavailable
[05:54] <hyde> why do you need to put files to some specific directories anyway? just copy them to anything like a memory card or USB stick, then insert the stick to the XP machine, and copy them off?
[05:54] <hyde> SamwiseGamgee: ^
[05:55] <SamwiseGamgee> the files are damaged
[05:55] <SamwiseGamgee> Only Redo backup has any chance of recovering them
[05:55] <SamwiseGamgee> they cannot be recovered using Windows XP
[05:56] <LostNva> what type of files are they
[05:56] <ObrienDave> i'm guessing the real issue is no one here understands the recovery program you're trying to use
[05:56] <SamwiseGamgee> oh, well, even if I put a usb stick into the PC, it will have another bizarre directory name or probably won't even show up, I wouldn't know where to find it
[05:57] <SamwiseGamgee> hyde, there appear to be three directories: one is called  "drwx- - - - - - - 0   0   280 31 July 2014"
[05:58] <SamwiseGamgee> the second is called drwxr-xr-x   0 0  0   220   31 July etc
[05:58] <SamwiseGamgee> the third directory is called -rw-r - - r - -      0     0     40960  31 July 2014
[05:58] <SamwiseGamgee> the destination partition I want to use as a destination is sdb (1.4 TB)
[05:58] <SamwiseGamgee> It has several subdirectories:  sdb1 30G, sdb2, 1K, sdb5 100 G, sdb6 200 G.....sdb9 400 G
[05:59] <SamwiseGamgee> I said this before
[05:59] <SamwiseGamgee> so I know where the files are, and I know where I want to put them
[06:00] <SamwiseGamgee> but the problem is Redo Backup is using bizarre names for the directories that provide no useful information
[06:00] <SamwiseGamgee> I showed you the names of the directories, can you make any sense out of those names?
[06:00] <SamwiseGamgee> hyde
[06:02] <SamwiseGamgee> ObrienDave, is there another channel where the people in it know how to use Redo Backup?
[06:02] <ObrienDave> i couldn't tell you. never heard of it before now
[06:02] <djpo> hi guys can someone help my i try to hack some wireless connection but i keep getting this  errors
[06:02] <SamwiseGamgee> I'll try hardware
[06:02] <djpo> WARNING: Failed to associate with
[06:03] <djpo> i'm new with ubuntu :)
[06:04] <LostNva> djpo: failed to associate with what
[06:05] <LostNva> what are you doing when you get that
[06:06] <LostNva> oh hehe hacker
[06:07] <djpo> reaver -i mon0 -b C4:04:15:25:73:32
[06:07] <djpo> i'm doing this lostnva
[06:08] <LostNva> reaver -i mon0 -c (channel) -T 1 -N -d 2 -vv
[06:09] <LostNva> reaver -i mon0 -c (channel) -b (bssid) -T 1 -N -d 2 -vv    , i meant
[06:09] <djpo> what do u mean with chnnel?
[06:09] <djpo> channel
[06:09] <Blue1> Beldar: this is precisely the issue:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/142655/ubuntu-12-04-adobe-flash-player-crashes-cant-watch-youtube  unfortunately installing gnash (which is 10.1 flash) didn't quite solve the problem....
[06:10] <LostNva> lock on the chanell or it will roam, -c 6 example
[06:12] <eristiker> ?quit
[06:13] <brucelee> anyone know what the propable reasons are that my apt-get update fails every single time at this one place, with 502 Resource temporarily unavailable. and its always the trusty/main amd64 packages
[06:13] <brucelee> error message says failed to fetch
[06:14] <brucelee> "Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored or old ones used instead."
[06:14] <ObrienDave> brucelee, communications error. Ubuntu repo? PPA?
[06:15] <brucelee> PPA
[06:15] <brucelee> the error message says its trying to download from the PPA
[06:15] <ObrienDave> which PPA
[06:16] <brucelee> ppa.launchpad.net/sauce/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[06:16] <ObrienDave> PPAs come and go all the time. you sure it's still valid?
[06:16] <brucelee> yeah
[06:16] <brucelee> it works on other systems
[06:16] <brucelee> im not sure what part of the system is causing a weird state
[06:16] <brucelee> or if its not, how does apt-get update determine what its trying to download?
[06:17] <brucelee> it says in sources.list right?
[06:18] <diegoaguilar> Hello isla there any reason not todo keep with an updated 12.04.4 version instead of upgrading to 14.04?
[06:18] <ObrienDave> brucelee, pretty sure.
[06:18] <xangua> diegoaguilar: do you have a reason?
[06:19] <diegoaguilar> I rather keep with 12.04
[06:19] <brucelee> think i found the issue
[06:19] <diegoaguilar> As 14 has lotes of minors bugs which I hate
[06:19] <brucelee> yeah
[06:19] <brucelee> wrong ppa
[06:19] <ObrienDave> ok, cool
[06:20] <ssarah> Should i ask again XD
[06:20] <ssarah> ?
[06:20] <ObrienDave> diegoaguilar, 12.04 is supported for another year at least
[06:20] <eskp> hey guys getting "E: Release signed by unknown key (key id 40976EAF437D05B5)" when invoking pbuilder on debian
[06:20] <eskp> any clues?
[06:21] <DrunkWithPower> For Ubuntu's Unity dash - is the Amazon search "feature" now turned off by default for current Ubuntu distributions?
[06:21] <diegoaguilar> ObrienDave ir will be more tan thay
[06:21] <diegoaguilar> That
[06:21] <LostNva> Does Linux have a restore Repositories to default button, if not it would really help a lot of people.
[06:21] <ObrienDave> eskp, ask in #debian
[06:21] <TJ-> eskp: you've not imported the key into your key-ring?
[06:22] <TJ-> eskp: that's the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>key
[06:22] <arkas> camtasia for linux ?
[06:22] <DrunkWithPower> ?
[06:22] <ObrienDave> ssarah, yes, please ask again
[06:22] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I am looking for two way sync frameworks available on ubuntu; ANY. Any suggestions?
[06:22] <ssarah> so i got this bash script. it just has a bunch sudo commands in it. But i want it to work not only through command line, but also double click
[06:22] <diegoaguilar> Since 12.04 its 5 years  ObrienDave
[06:23] <arkas> is there some program how camtasia from ubuntu?
[06:23] <ObrienDave> diegoaguilar, thanks, was not sure
[06:24] <DrunkWithPower> I am not sure if the Ubuntu's help chat is practicing censorship, if no one knows the answer, or they do know but don't want new users to be thinking about Ubuntu's privacy issues?
[06:25] <eskp> TJ-: just ran gpg to receive keys, then exported and imported with apt
[06:25] <eskp> TJ-: same error
[06:25] <ObrienDave> DrunkWithPower, or maybe they don't understand your question
[06:25] <DrunkWithPower> Ok I will rephrase it
[06:26] <DrunkWithPower> Better yet, I will paste from wikipedia
[06:26] <eskp> ObrienDave: i tried, got no response
[06:26] <TJ-> eskp: Isn't it the keyring *inside* the pbuilder that needs the key?
[06:26] <DrunkWithPower> Wikipedia - Amazon controversy
[06:26] <DrunkWithPower> Amazon search results displayed in the Unity dash feature was introduced with Ubuntu version 12.10. It was alternately described as the "Amazon controversy",[129][130] "privacy fiasco"[131] and "spyware".[132] It was awarded the 2013 Big Brother Award.[133]
[06:27] <DrunkWithPower> Usually even Windows user do care somewhat about privacy
[06:28] <DrunkWithPower> If the Amazon search is turned off by default, then I don't see to much of an issue.  I thought they were going to do that?
[06:28] <ObrienDave> DrunkWithPower, i have no clue about that
[06:28] <TJ-> DrunkWithPower: It looked to me to be the result of 2 main issues: 1) Canonical needed new ways to monetise Ubuntu through search referrals and 2) too many folks with their head in the 'cloud', so to speak
[06:29] <TJ-> DrunkWithPower: personally I never liked any of those background search/dash typed input tools, certainly with the Unity being influenced by touch screens it seemed ironic to me that it required such extensive typed input
[06:30] <DrunkWithPower> Ok.  Well people discovered it awhile back now.  In order for a person's privacy to be violated, do they need to be aware that their privacy is being violated?  Kind of a chicken and the egg question
[06:30] <DrunkWithPower> In other words, if a person has their head in the "cloud", then is it ok to violate their privacy since they are not aware there is a problem?
[06:31] <ObrienDave> or, if you're not doing anything you need to worry about, then there's no problem in the first place
[06:31] <TJ-> DrunkWithPower: The Ethos with such things in the F/OSS community has generally been clearly opt-in, which is why I think the default enablement jarred
[06:31] <TJ-> ObrienDave: I disagree. I might be typing something to find a sensitive document and I don't want that 'leaking' off my PC to search/referral companies
[06:31] <DrunkWithPower> Ok.  So if you are innocent, and you talk to your lawyer, then you do not have the need for private communications between you and your lawyer?
[06:32] <DrunkWithPower> Remember it is proposed that if you are not doing anything bad, you have nothing to worry about.  So you should not need to have confidential communications with your lawyer, doctor, teacher, friends, anyone
[06:32] <DrunkWithPower> Right?
[06:32] <Flannel> DrunkWithPower: This has clearly strayed away from technical support, can you please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic?  Thanks.
[06:33]  * ObrienDave refuses to have a battle of wits with an un-armed person
[06:33] <DrunkWithPower> I think it is a technical issue btw
[06:34] <ObrienDave> but it is NOT a support issue
[06:34] <DrunkWithPower> The tech support question is - does Ubuntu have the amazon search feature enabled by default?  I need that info for technical reasons
[06:34] <kostkon> DrunkWithPower, it isn't. Better place for it is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <DrunkWithPower> Yes it is
[06:34] <Flannel> DrunkWithPower: Whether it's enabled is technical, whether it's bad or irresponsible is not technical.  So if you can bisect you're conversation, it'd be appreciated, thanks.
[06:35] <Flannel> well, wrong your there, but you get the picture.
[06:35] <ObrienDave> no, the support question would be "how can i disable it"
[06:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> What is a diff?
[06:35] <DrunkWithPower> Tech support deals with many things, some of which include how to utilize features of the software
[06:35] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad, a diff the difference between two files
[06:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ObrienDave, thanks. These are used for merging, correct?
[06:36] <DrunkWithPower> Ok.  I have just installed Ubuntu and have made no changes.  I want my privacy violated by Ubunto and Amazon.  How can I turn on the Amazon search feature? Or do I need to, perhaps it is enabled by default?
[06:36] <ObrienDave> yes
[06:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !cookie
[06:37] <djpo> .com/wiki/Your_health_currently_feels_amplified
 hi guys i'm looking 2 learn sql injection can u pl
[06:37] <djpo> [!] WARNING: Failed to associate with C4:04:15:25:73:32 (ESSID: pini)
 [!] WARNING: Failed to associate with C4:04:15:25:73:32 (ESSID: pini)
 [+] Sending EAPOL START request
 [+] Sending WSC NACK
 [!] WPS transaction failed (code: 0x04), re-trying last pin
 still getting errors
[06:37] <unopaste> djpo you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:40] <ObrienDave> DrunkWithPower, since you so eloquently asked, http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2337185/ubuntu-to-ditch-amazon-product-suggestions-from-its-search-results
[06:40] <magic> Is it possible to update an Ubuntu system running 12.04 to 14.04 without reinstalling?
[06:40] <DrunkWithPower> ObrienDave: but they have not ditched it
[06:40] <DrunkWithPower> This was discovered quiet some time ago
[06:41] <zubir> lil b
[06:41] <ObrienDave> magic, yes, there is
[06:41] <magic> ObrienDave: How?
[06:41] <Flannel> DrunkWithPower, ObrienDave: If you actually read the post, it's still enabled, and will be disabled by default (well, more like "handled completely differently") in a future version, but not the LTS.
[06:41] <zubir> apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:41] <magic> zubir: Is that different from the GUI?
[06:42] <magic> The GUI tells me I'm upgrading to an unsupported version
[06:44] <helmut_> hi
[06:44] <ObrienDave> Flannel, i read that as being the amazon search is not implemented in 14.04
[06:44] <Flannel> ObrienDave: The next version (with the change) will not be implemented in 14.04
[06:45] <DrunkWithPower> Flannel: Yeah, "handled completely differently" translates to "we will continue to spy on the users but make it more obscure and difficult to detect and disable"
[06:45] <djpo> hi
[06:45] <ObrienDave> ok, well back to support for me
[06:45] <Flannel> DrunkWithPower: No, that's not realistically true.  Also, off topic.
[06:46] <djpo> djpo> [!]   Have a nice night.
[06:47] <ObrienDave> yes, thanks you too
[06:48] <magic> How do I upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04? The Ubuntu updater keeps telling me there's no updates left
[06:48] <magic> Along with dist-upgrade
[06:48] <magic> The setting for when to dist upgrade is set to 'LTS only'
[06:48] <ObrienDave> magic, try do-release-upgrade
[06:49] <magic> ObrienDave: "No new release found"
[06:49] <ObrienDave> magic, also, not everyone is getting the update notices at the same time
[06:50] <Beldar> some repos do not update that often as well
[06:50] <magic> Oh I found the issue
[06:50] <ObrienDave> and???
[06:50] <magic> So apparently Canocial isn't notifying LTS users yet
[06:50] <magic> And I have to stick a -d on the end of my update-manager
[06:51] <Beldar> I though it was the 31st officially
[06:51] <ObrienDave> oh yes, that's right. sorry
[06:51] <magic> Well technically it's currently the 31st but I don't think that's very fair to Canocial
[06:51] <ObrienDave> magic, what was the proper command?
[06:52] <magic> ObrienDave: I did sudo update-manager -d and used the GUI, TBH.
[06:52] <ObrienDave> ok, thanks
[06:52] <magic> This machine isn't running server Ubuntu it just has to be really stable.
[06:53] <ObrienDave> i appreciate stability also
[06:53] <Beldar> it's overrated
[06:54] <ObrienDave> LOL so is breathing ;P
[06:54] <magic> The Higher Ups demand it
[06:55] <magic> I am but a vessel :p
[06:57] <nicxz> So I'm using the intel graphics installer (https://01.org/linuxgraphics) on Tardy, and am seeing a big difference in video framerate, while using mplayer-vaapi. 12% cpu usage in windows, 45% cpu usage in ubuntu. Same hardware, same video (1080p big buck bunny).
[06:58] <edition> xubuntu is better with hardware.
[06:58] <nicxz> can someone please point me in the right direction for debugging this?
[06:58] <nicxz> I'm assuming at this point I'm not using the correct driver
[06:59] <nicxz> but it all seems to be in order
[06:59] <Mr-Shuttleworth> tardy?
[06:59] <Mr-Shuttleworth> hardy?
[06:59] <Mr-Shuttleworth> !hardy
[06:59] <nicxz> sorry, I meant trusty
[06:59] <Mr-Shuttleworth> lol
[07:00] <nicxz> those got mixed up in my head :)
[07:00] <ObrienDave> nicxz, does it work?
[07:00] <Mr-Shuttleworth> I remember hardy; great background
[07:00] <nicxz> video plays, output says it uses vaapi
[07:00] <nicxz> but still big cpu usage
[07:00] <ObrienDave> so? does it work?
[07:01] <nicxz> well the video plays, yes. but I want to know why the big difference in cpu usage, and if I'm using gpu at all.
[07:02] <sgo11> hi, I am trying to enable an external VGA display and rotate 90 degree. I tried this command "xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1366x768 --pos 0x1080 --rotate normal --output VGA1 --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0 --rotate left". It has a problem. my LVDS1 is not in the right of my VGA1. they overlap each other. why?
[07:02] <yz3pD> sgo11, use arandr in place of xrandr
[07:08] <sgo11> yz3pD, arandr works very well. thanks a lot.
[07:08] <ObrienDave> Flannel, you were right. (hates when that happens) http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/768624-ubuntu-to-make-amazon-product-results-opt-in-omgubuntu/
[07:10] <devastator3> ciao
[07:10] <devastator3> #!list
[07:11] <devastator3> !list
[07:11] <ObrienDave> oh lordy
[07:11] <yz3p> !minecraft | test
[07:12] <devastator3> !word war z
[07:12] <ObrienDave> !it | devastator3
[07:12] <Beldar> minecraft is 3rd party
[07:13] <ObrienDave> and third party PPAs not supported here ;P
[07:13] <nicxz> Ok, I wasn't measuring correctly. apparently 'top' isn't very good for checking multicore cpu load.
[07:14] <ObrienDave> htop might be better, not sure
[07:14] <nicxz> seems like the linux graphics driver are being used, and are doing a decent job
[07:14] <Beldar> nicxz, Might try a conky for realtime
[07:14] <nicxz> will look into htop, conky. thanks
[07:15] <bekks> nicxz: top works fine on multiple cpu systems. It is able to display the load of each core, even.
[07:15] <ObrienDave> nicxz, i go through the same linux driver site. no issues so far
[07:17] <simonjr45> anyone can help me on ubuntu usage?
[07:17] <ObrienDave> fire away simonjr45
[07:17] <simonjr45> can virus attack ubuntu linux?
[07:18] <simonjr45> I am a new user for ubuntu linux
[07:18] <simonjr45> been using windows platform for ages
[07:18] <Beldar> !av | simonjr45
[07:19] <yz3pD> simion314, don't need an av-scanner but there are some aviable like clamtk
[07:19] <nicxz> bekks: well it's probably that i'm used to looking at the wrong number.
[07:19] <simonjr45> cool thank u
[07:19] <Beldar> simonjr45, rootkits are the basic worry if any at all, a good password and safe use will protect you.
[07:19] <simonjr45> ubuntu is a good operating system I am totally impressed with it
[07:20] <simonjr45> should have used it a few years back but linux is not popular in malaysia
[07:20] <ObrienDave> we like it :)
[07:20] <simonjr45> I think it is catching up now with ubuntu linux 14.04
[07:20] <yz3pD> Beldar, chkrootkit is also an application against rootkits
[07:21] <simonjr45> I am using it on 2 desktops and my netbook
[07:21] <user123321> http://laurentbel.com/2012/04/04/simple-failover-cluster-on-ubuntu-using-carp/ <---- I followed the steps but I don't get the results in ifconfig.
[07:21] <simonjr45> all the drivers are so easy to install
[07:21] <Beldar> yz3pD, Not really a protection only looks for file differentials you have to know what you doing.
[07:21] <yz3pD> Beldar, but it can help you to find rootkits, right?
[07:22] <simonjr45> I can't believe my eyes ..... if I knew this wouldn't have spend that much money buying windows sofware......sigh
[07:22] <user123321> In interfaces, I had only "# interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)auto lo iface lo inet loopback", and I added the rest of the entries as mentioned there.
[07:22] <Beldar> yz3pD, If you know what your doing possibly so can rkhunter
[07:23] <yz3pD> simion314, and there are mmore linux desktops not only unity, also kde xfce lxde ...
[07:23] <simonjr45> people can I ask where can I get good themes for ubuntu 14.04 using unity tweak tool
[07:24] <ObrienDave> http://www.ubuntuthemes.org/
[07:24] <simonjr45> it really is worth donating to ubuntu org supporting their work
[07:24] <Beldar> simonjr45, Your in fanboi mode.....it will wear off.
[07:24] <simonjr45> thanx people
[07:25] <simonjr45> what is fanboi mode
[07:25] <yz3pD> Beldar, chkrootkit is easier to understand than rkhunter, right? ... so i will stay using chkrootkit
[07:25] <Beldar> simonjr45, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fanboi
[07:26] <pavelic> Good morning folks, got a question here. How can i preseed an edit to the sudoers file? I need to make sure that the sudo group has NOPASSWD: on it.
[07:26] <ObrienDave> new user, still excited about a new system, fanboi
[07:26] <linuxuz3r> hi
[07:26] <linuxuz3r> is gnome store and ubuntu store the same?
[07:26] <Beldar> yz3pD, If you have to separate the two on a differential of understanding, you don;t understand how to use them.
[07:26] <linuxuz3r> anyone
[07:27] <simonjr45> beldar what is the url for? is it a software I have to install?
[07:27] <user123321> I'm trying this one now ---> http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/09/02/simple-failover-cluster-using-ucarp-on-ubuntu/
[07:27] <Beldar> simonjr45,  definition of your question.
[07:27] <ObrienDave> simonjr45, no it's for the definition of fanboi
[07:27] <simonjr45> thanx obrienDave for the url
[07:27] <ObrienDave> np
[07:28] <simonjr45> how come when I click on the url the browser doesn't open ?
[07:29] <ObrienDave> right click, copy URL, paste in browser
[07:29] <pavelic> because xchat hates you.
[07:29] <simonjr45> oic thanx
[07:29] <Beldar> simonjr45, right click-open link in browser
[07:30] <Beldar> pavelic, The greek chorus is on another channel
[07:30] <linuxuz3r> is gnome store and ubuntu store the same?
[07:31] <simonjr45> ok thanx again really helpful
[07:31] <ObrienDave> linuxuz3r, not sure, don't think so
[07:31] <pavelic> Beldar, har. Any idea about my issue?
[07:31] <ObrienDave> simonjr45, welcome to Ubuntu :)
[07:31] <linuxuz3r> ObrienDave, which one is bigger ubuntu store or gnome store
[07:31] <ObrienDave> don't know
[07:34] <simonjr45> thanx obreindave....r u a developer for linux platform?
[07:34] <ObrienDave> no, just a long time techno nerd
[07:34] <simonjr45> does most of the nvidia graphic cards work on ubuntu linux
[07:34] <simonjr45> I need to download the driver though
[07:35] <simonjr45> OIC
[07:36] <simonjr45> i saw the youtube video where the linux founder used a four-letter word to accuse nVidia for not supporting linux O/S
[07:36] <Beldar> old news and not exactly the linux founder
[07:37] <k1l> simonjr45: dont get caught by the media show
[07:37] <simonjr45> oh my who is the actual founder than?
[07:37] <ObrienDave> Linus Torvalds
[07:38] <simonjr45> isn't he the one who used four-letter word in the forum?
[07:38] <ObrienDave> don't know
[07:38] <simonjr45> yes he did
[07:38] <Beldar> simonjr45, Bro this is support not chat.
[07:38] <simonjr45> ok sorry
[07:38] <k1l> simonjr45: yes he is. but do you have a actual technical ubuntu support issue? we got #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter
[07:39] <simonjr45> can go there the next time around
[07:39] <simonjr45> I notice the XChat software has not been updated since 2010
[07:39] <pavelic> simonjr45, get hexchat.
[07:39] <simonjr45> the developer seem to have abandon the work
[07:40] <simonjr45> hexchat
[07:40] <simonjr45> where do I get that?
[07:40] <angs> I have Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop (x64). It has a Swedish keyboard and the keyboard setting is defined as Swedish. However, it sometimes turns to English keyboard. Has anyone experienced such problem before?
[07:40] <pavelic> simonjr45, if its not available in the ubuntu repo's, https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/ubuntu/hexchat-stable
[07:41] <k1l> !find hexchat | pavelic simonjr45
[07:42] <pavelic> k1l, that works too :D
[07:42] <k1l> pavelic: it is in the repos. no need for PPA
[07:42] <pavelic> k1l, what did i say up there?
[07:42] <star_prone> hi
[07:42] <pavelic> "if its not available in ubuntu repos"
[07:43] <star_prone> how can I create an unity launcher in ubuntu 14.04?
[07:43] <pavelic> i think its not available in 12.04
[07:43] <AAmit> error: ERROR: cannot register object path "/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio1": A handler is already registered for /org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio1
[07:43] <AAmit> can anybody help???????????
[07:45] <ObrienDave> simonjr45, for general chat type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:46] <simonjr45> which is better hexchat or xChat?
[07:46] <angs> xchat
[07:46] <sgo11> hexchat
[07:47] <simonjr45> will I have problem if I continue to use xChat since it is not updated by the developer?
[07:48] <angs> I have never had any problem on xchat but there is a dedicated room for it #xchat
[07:48] <simonjr45> thanx angs
[07:48] <angs> you can get better reply there
[07:49] <giorgiodinapoli> good morning guys! we want to add this to our sources list https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nagiosgrapher/1.7.1-4.1 <--- but where can we fint the ppa that we need to add?
[07:49] <Night-hacks> I want to remove OS X completely from my Mac and install Ubuntu.
[07:50] <Night-hacks> does anybody knows how can i get installable backup from OSX so i can install it on Virtual Box inside my Ubuntu ?
[07:50] <simonjr45> bye everday for the valuable answer and sorry for asking questions other than ubuntu support......
[07:50] <simonjr45> bye bye
[07:50] <simonjr45> thank you
[07:50] <pavelic> Night-hacks, i'm pretty sure thats a very problematic configuration.
[07:51] <Night-hacks> pavelic:  what's the problem ?
[07:52] <ObrienDave> giorgiodinapoli, there does not seem to be a PPA available
[07:52] <pavelic> Night-hacks, i'm reasonably certain that that will not work at all. AFAIK getting OSX to work inside virtualization solution when the host os is not OSX is iffy. IIRC Parallels were the only ones providing that.
[07:54] <pavelic> Night-hacks, i could be talking stupid here, but i recommend googling around for the particular configuration you want to do ( ubuntu host -> OSX guest )
[07:55] <Beldar> Night-hacks, The virtual runs in a OS.
[07:55] <Beldar> Ah apple in a virtual
[07:55] <Night-hacks> Beldar:  isn't that possible ?
[07:56] <giorgiodinapoli> ObrienDave, thats sad :( in 12.04 it was included by default
[07:56] <Beldar> Night-hacks, I doubt it's approved by apple.
[07:56] <ObrienDave> !info nagiosgrapher
[07:57] <Night-hacks> Beldar: being feasible is important, not their approval :)
[07:57] <Beldar> Night-hacks, two things not supported here, and we don't support illegal installs
[07:58] <Night-hacks> Beldar: it's my own mac and the OS X that i've paid for ! what's illegal about that !?
[07:58] <Beldar> sigh
[07:59] <ObrienDave> your team ;P
[07:59] <pavelic> Night-hacks, Apple did not provide you with a licence for a VM install.
[07:59] <willwork4foo> License terms.
[07:59]  * Beldar writes a new drama as the ignore fills
[07:59] <willwork4foo> LOL
[07:59] <ObrienDave> lol
[08:00] <pds|2> if anybody is intrested in an introduction course in linux : [09:59:21] <pds|2> als er iemand geintreseerd is in linux introductie cursus wel engelstalig : https://www.edx.org/course/linuxfoundationx/linuxfoundationx-lfs
[08:00] <Night-hacks> Another reason for hating OS X   :)
[08:00] <willwork4foo> pds|2: Is that the free one? I saw that.
[08:00] <pds|2> willwork4foo: yup free and certified
[08:00] <willwork4foo> That's really good for an intro course.
[08:00]  * willwork4foo is already OCP
[08:00] <ObrienDave> Night-hacks, ANY paid OS will not allow you to do that
[08:00] <willwork4foo> No, not Robocop
[08:01] <willwork4foo> ObrienDave: Solaris allows you to install into a VirtualBox VM - I guess that's not a "paid-for" OS, it's just the support you pay for
[08:01] <pavelic> willwork4foo, wasnt it sorta iffy with windozers for a while until microsoft definitely said "you gotta pay for more licences"?
[08:01] <willwork4foo> pavelic: yeah I think so
[08:01] <willwork4foo> I don't know much about windoze.
[08:02] <pavelic> i wish i could use linux on my work laptop -.-
[08:02] <willwork4foo> I use Kubuntu on mine.
[08:02] <willwork4foo> (Lenovo T420)
[08:03] <Beldar> scene one
[08:03] <pavelic> heh. i'm sitting on a Sony VPCZ1. stupid nvidia optimus.
[08:03] <brucelee> where is the ubuntu package index stored?
[08:03] <giorgiodinapoli> ObrienDave, what can be the reason that it doesnt exist?
[08:04] <pavelic> (in short, no amount of fiddling allowed me to use dual-screen with the hdmi out on that one, only vga and full hd screen + vga = painful flickering)
[08:04] <brucelee> is it possible to wipe the ubuntu package index, and have it re-download it? I'm trying to 'reset' it
[08:04] <pavelic> brucelee, what did you do?
[08:04] <Kartagis> hi
[08:05] <Kartagis> I have a USB modem and sometimes I connect through that
[08:05] <brucelee> pavelic: when i do apt-get update, it gets to a point and this one part gets a 502
[08:05] <brucelee> i say 'part'
[08:05] <brucelee> because im not sure what apt-get update is doing
[08:05] <Kartagis> USB 3g*
[08:05] <brucelee> im not sure if its downloading a bunch of files or what
[08:05] <brucelee> if so, then it fails at downloading 1 file
[08:05] <pavelic> check /etc/apt/sources.d i think
[08:06] <pavelic> one of the folder in /etc/apt has all the repos you are pulling from and temporarily comment out the on thats 502-ing out?
[08:06] <Beldar> brucelee, Pastebin a apt-get
[08:06] <Kartagis> I choose network settings > mobile broadband and make a new connection
[08:06] <Beldar> all lof it
[08:06] <Kartagis> but next time, the connection isn't there
[08:06] <brucelee> Beldar: this is not a straight forward troubleshooting process
[08:07] <brucelee> Beldar: because im using apt-get cache
[08:07] <Beldar> Kartagis, Run lsusb in the cli and identify the hardware to the channel.
[08:07] <Kartagis> all the connections I had to previously create are listed only after I create a new one
[08:07] <brucelee> what this means is, i have a server which caches apt-get downloaded packages
[08:07] <Beldar> brucelee, Cool never mind.
[08:07] <Kartagis> why is that?
[08:08] <brucelee> pavelic: let me try that
[08:08] <Beldar> Kartagis, 7 posts that should have been one./
[08:08] <pavelic> brucelee, could be a dead repo on the remote side for something you've added ages ago?
[08:09] <Kartagis> sorry Beldar
[08:09] <Kartagis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7912459/
[08:09] <Kartagis> Beldar: ^
[08:10] <brucelee> pavelic: i think we should rule out remote issues because it works with other servers
[08:10] <ObrienDave> giorgiodinapoli, too old, not supported anymore, i would not know
[08:10] <Beldar> Kartagis, take your pick https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ubuntu+E220+HSDPA+Modem+/+E230/E270/E870+HSDPA/HSUPA+Modem&gbv=1&sei=3fnZU9GEC6G7igLJ2YHYBw
[08:10] <pavelic> brucelee, good luck then, sorry.
[08:10] <brucelee> pavelic: infact, after i reinstalled ubuntu, and changed from the ubuntu default sources.list to what it was before i reinstalled ubuntu (the same one that didnt work previously)
[08:10] <brucelee> it worked
[08:11] <brucelee> so im pretty sure its something weird with local server, not the remote repo
[08:11] <Kartagis> Beldar: the first hit says can't connect. but I can
[08:12] <Beldar> Kartagis, Like I asked take your pick
[08:12] <ObrienDave> brucelee, try changing repo mirrors
[08:12] <brucelee> ObrienDave: you mean changing stuff inside sources.list?
[08:12] <brucelee> sources.list contains repo mirrors right?
[08:13] <ObrienDave> there is a GUI for sources
[08:13] <brucelee> this is not on a ubuntu desktop
[08:13] <brucelee> its on a server, no gui
[08:13] <ObrienDave> i would not know how to do that on a server
[08:15] <brucelee> ObrienDave: its ok, thanks tho
[08:29] <okhel> Hallo
[08:30] <ObrienDave> greetings and welcome
[08:39] <m1dnight> Guys, this information is wrong, I presume: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[08:39] <m1dnight> Wrong according to:
[08:39] <m1dnight> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[08:39] <m1dnight> (I'm talking about the first point release)
[08:39] <m1dnight> Since I can't do do-dist-upgrade yet on my machine, I presume 17th of august should be correct.
[08:39] <Rogz> yo anyone here to help me with linux i got this big problem i can't install my gpu drivers nor change the resolution
[08:40] <viscera> Why is audio randomly dying until I reboot? 14.04.1 LTS amd64 notebook with a "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)" audio device
[08:40] <viscera> Works fine with other OSes
[08:40] <viscera> (including Linux)
[08:41] <Rogz> yo anyone here to help me with linux i got this big problem i can't install my gpu drivers nor change the resolution
[08:41] <Rogz> sorry
[08:43] <viscera> Doing step 1A in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure fixes it, so it must be a bug with PulseAudio or Ubuntu's implementation of it, right?
[08:43] <ObrienDave> m1dnight, read that again, 12.04.5 is due Aug 17th
[08:43] <Rogz> yo anyone here to help me with linux i got this big problem i can't install my gpu drivers nor change the resolution
[08:44] <ikonia> Rogz: what graphics card do you have and how are you trying to install drivers
[08:44] <ikonia> Rogz: what version of ubuntu are you using
[08:45] <Rogz> ERr
[08:45] <ObrienDave> m1dnight, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule clearly shows 14.04.1 was released July 24th
[08:45] <Rogz> desktop but i don't know the number
[08:45] <Rogz> how can i check the number?
[08:45] <ObrienDave> uname -a
[08:46] <Rogz> Linux fahd-H81M-S2PH 3.13.0-32-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 15 03:51:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:46] <ObrienDave> oops, sorry
[08:46] <Rogz> my gpu is GTX 750 ti
[08:46] <m1dnight> right, I read wrong
[08:46] <m1dnight> my mistake
[08:46] <m1dnight> sorry guys
[08:47] <m1dnight> Strange, that dist-upgrade says there is no new version then, right?
[08:47] <ikonia> Rogz: please run "lsb_release -a" and confirm the release number (don't paste it all please)
[08:47] <Rogz> No LSB modules are available.
[08:48] <k1l> m1dnight: 14.04.1 release is a "servicepack". if you run all updates you are already on 14.04.1
[08:48] <Rogz> oh wwait sorry
[08:48] <Rogz> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[08:48] <Rogz> Release:	14.04
[08:48] <m1dnight> No, i'm still on 12.04 LTS
[08:48] <Rogz> there ikonia
[08:48] <m1dnight> So I did what the wiki says to upgrade to 14.04 but it fails
[08:49] <k1l> m1dnight: ok, the LTS to LTS upgrade will be opened in some time. i dont know when the devs will do that
[08:49] <m1dnight> Oooh
[08:49] <m1dnight> I read that it's opened up when the .1 release is released
[08:49] <m1dnight> Therefore I was confused :)
[08:49] <m1dnight> Ubuntu gives me a warning HWE stack will be unsupported soon, that's why I tried.
[08:49] <ObrienDave> m1dnight,  cat /etc/issue
[08:49] <m1dnight> I'll try agani soon then
[08:50] <m1dnight> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[08:50] <ObrienDave> k, thnaks
[08:50] <ObrienDave> *thanks
[08:50] <Rogz> so what do you think? i have been at it for hours
[08:50] <TJ-> m1dnight: the upgrade won't happen until Trusty is added to http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[08:50] <k1l> m1dnight: you can change to the trusty kernel anyway (and should)
[08:51] <m1dnight> oh, so I add the -d flag ?
[08:51] <TJ-> m1dnight: It's already available in -proposed  though
[08:51] <k1l> m1dnight: no. change the kernel package to lts trusty kernel
[08:51] <Rogz> does anyone know how to fix it?
[08:52] <m1dnight> hmm, I think I can do that k1l
[08:52] <m1dnight> hold on :)
[08:53] <m1dnight> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/kernel/linux-base
[08:53] <m1dnight> that's that one, right?
[08:53] <Rogz> does anyone know how to fix it?
[08:54] <k1l> m1dnight: please read the message you get about HWE stack carefully
[08:54] <TJ-> m1dnight: it's "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty" as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[08:54] <k1l> m1dnight: it even explains what to do.
[08:54] <linuxuz3r> Rogz, have you tried installing nvidia proprietary drivers
[08:54] <m1dnight> yes, I can do that, or upgrade to 14.04
[08:55] <m1dnight> but I'd prefer to upgrade to 14.04
[08:55] <linuxuz3r> or ubuntu hardware automatic installer
[08:55] <m1dnight> * Upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS by running:
[08:55] <m1dnight> putty accidental paste, nvm
[08:55] <Rogz> [11:54] <linuxuz3r> Rogz, have you tried installing nvidia proprietary drivers
[08:55] <Rogz> how to do that
[08:56] <ikonia> Rogz: ok, thats great
[08:56] <ikonia> Rogz: how are you trying to actually install the nvidia modules
[08:57] <ikonia> Rogz: or "what are you doing"
[08:57] <Rogz> well
[08:57] <Rogz> i installed wine
[08:57] <jim2> hello i am getting an error message "system program problem detected" why?
[08:57] <Rogz> and ran the download
[08:57] <Rogz> and i get
[08:57] <linuxuz3r> Rogz, first off have you tried installing nvidia drivers through additional drivers
[08:57] <ikonia> why have you installed wine ?
[08:57] <Rogz> Mircsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
[08:57] <Rogz> Runtime Erorr!
[08:57] <Rogz> Program C:\NVDIA\D...
[08:57] <Rogz> This Application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way
[08:57] <ikonia> what has wine got to do with your video card drivers
[08:57] <k1l> m1dnight: they are still sorting bugs that will make trouble while upgradeing to 14.04. so stay patient for a short time.
[08:57] <Rogz> well
[08:57] <Rogz> i tried to run the linux file
[08:57] <Rogz> it didn't work
[08:58] <Rogz> ..
[08:58] <ikonia> Rogz: so at that point you stop
[08:58] <k1l> Rogz: you cant install drivers with wine
[08:58] <ikonia> Rogz: there is no need to run any "files"
[08:58] <Rogz> no the driver for linux
[08:58] <ikonia> Rogz: if you open the software center and search for nvidia, you will find nvidia graphics drivers
[08:58] <Rogz> it didn't work it opened up a notepad
[08:58] <ikonia> Rogz: once you click "install" it will install
[08:58] <Rogz> oh
[08:58] <Rogz> okay i'll look for it
[08:58] <ikonia> !nvidia | Rogz
[08:58] <linuxuz3r> Rogz, try Additional drivers for ubuntu
[08:58] <ikonia> Rogz: please please ask if you are not sure
[08:58] <linuxuz3r> you can see it in unity application menu
[08:59] <ikonia> Rogz: do not use wine to install anything for linux
[08:59] <Rogz> i did linuxuz3r
[08:59] <Rogz> i found nothing
[08:59] <Rogz> kk i'll look for it in the center
[08:59] <ikonia> Rogz: do you know how to use a pastebin ?
[08:59] <linuxuz3r> Rogz, 750ti should be supported
[09:01] <linuxuz3r> Rogz, stick with nouvea are you going to play games or do 3d stuff in ubuntu
[09:02] <takasurazeem> Hi I am trying to install jdk8. using % tar zxvf jdk-8uversion-linux-x64.tar.gz and what I get on terminal is % tar zxvf jdk-8uversion-linux-x64.tar.gz
[09:02] <Rogz> [12:01] <linuxuz3r> Rogz, stick with nouvea are you going to play games or do 3d stuff in ubuntu
[09:02] <Rogz> err no
[09:02] <takasurazeem> my bashrc file is empty as well
[09:02] <Rogz> screen is way too small
[09:02] <Rogz> so yeah people say the problem is the driver
[09:03] <TJ-> Rogz: what does "screen too small" mean? incorrect pixel resolution? What is it, and what should it be?
[09:04] <jim2> hi i am getting an error " system program problem detected'why?
[09:04] <ObrienDave> !details | jim2
[09:05] <jim2> ubuntu 14.04 when i boot up sometimes it gives me an error system program problem detected and an option to report this problem..just this
[09:06] <TJ-> jim2: You mean a GUI dialog-box but no further details about the problem?
[09:06] <jim2> yes tj
[09:06] <takasurazeem> Hi I am trying to install jdk8. using % tar zxvf jdk-8uversion-linux-x64.tar.gz and what I get on terminal is % tar zxvf jdk-8uversion-linux-x64.tar.gz
[09:06] <takasurazeem> Hi I am trying to install jdk8. using % tar zxvf jdk-8uversion-linux-x64.tar.gz and what I get on terminal is % tar zxvf jdk-8uversion-linux-x64.tar.gz
[09:06] <takasurazeem> my bashrc file is empty as well
[09:06] <takasurazeem> :/
[09:06] <TJ-> jim2: That used to happen alot on 13.10 ... did you upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 ?
[09:07] <ObrienDave> !patience | takasurazeem
[09:07] <TJ-> takasurazeem: You mean "$HOME/.bashrc" ?
[09:07] <takasurazeem> yes
[09:07] <jim2> no tj i have not had ubuntu on my laptop i just installed it 1 month ago
[09:08] <ryanz> hello
[09:08] <takasurazeem> @TJ yes
[09:08] <TJ-> jim2: OK ... do you suspend/resume the laptop?
[09:08] <ObrienDave> ryanz, greetings and welcome
[09:08] <TJ-> takasurazeem: Did you delete the file, or edit it previously?
[09:08] <takasurazeem> nope
[09:09] <jim2> it works fine but it gives me that error (sometimes not all the time)
[09:10] <takasurazeem> TJ-:
[09:10] <TJ-> jim2: It can be caused by non-serious issues during suspend/resume on laptops, so if that's what you do with your laptop that might be the explanation
[09:10] <takasurazeem> TJ-: I don't have laptop, it's PC
[09:11] <joezasa> hi guys this is just a test for Polari IRC client
[09:11] <jim2> he iss talking to me :/
[09:11] <takasurazeem> :P sry
[09:11] <jim2> :)
[09:11] <akwyti> joezasa, it works ;)
[09:11] <TJ-> takasurazeem: You can replace the missing file using "cp /etc/skel/.bashrc $HOME/"
[09:11] <joezasa> big Hi five to UBUNTU community but ARCH is Better
[09:12] <mboeru> hello
[09:12] <mboeru> anyone tried to install and boot 14.04 on a diskless server with iscsi target ?
[09:12] <joezasa> Thanks akwyti
[09:12] <takasurazeem> TJ-: Still that error :/
[09:12] <mboeru> I managed to install it but booting just hangs
[09:12] <joezasa> i will leave now thankyou guys
[09:12] <joezasa> thank you*
[09:12] <TJ-> takasurazeem: what error - the file still missing?
[09:13] <takasurazeem> TJ-: bash: fg: %: no such job
[09:13] <takasurazeem> It's driving me mad :@
[09:13] <TJ-> takasurazeem: what command are you issuing?
[09:13] <takasurazeem> TJ-: % tar zxvf jdk-8uversion-linux-x64.tar.gz
[09:13] <jim2> i fixed that
[09:14] <TJ-> takasurazeem: lose the "%", I think you've copied that literally from a tutorial. It is there to represent the shell prompt, which you probably have as a "$"
[09:14] <jim2> it seems that my var/crash file was full of notifications and with a quick cleanup via the terminal addressed this particular issue
[09:14] <takasurazeem> TJ-: so I will have to replace that % with & ?
[09:14] <takasurazeem> $*
[09:14] <TJ-> takasurazeem: no. don't put anything there
[09:14] <takasurazeem> k
[09:15] <TJ-> takasurazeem: look at your shell prompt. Doesn't it end with a "$" ?
[09:15] <TJ-> takasurazeem: e.g. on one of my systems the shell prompt currently shows: "tj@caddy:~$ "
[09:16] <takasurazeem> TJ-: root@Takasur-ESPRIMO-P5730:/home/tak/Desktop/JDK#
[09:16] <ricotta17> hi
[09:16] <ricotta17> !list
[09:16] <geirha> takasurazeem: you shouldn't be doing that as root
[09:16] <TJ-> takasurazeem: OK, as root, your shell prompt ends with a "#" ... but in the instructions you are following it looks like they represented the shell prompt you see with the "%"
[09:17] <takasurazeem> :# so a '#' instead of %, I am new to linux xD but fan of linux sry for stupid questions
[09:18] <TJ-> takasurazeem: to successfully run the extract command you'd just type what is inside these quotes: "tar zxvf jdk-8uversion-linux-x64.tar.gz"
[09:18] <TJ-> takasurazeem: But as geirha said you would be better extracting the file as your normal user, not as root. You only need to run the installer as root, using the "sudo" command
[09:18] <takasurazeem> I think oracle didn't update tut.
[09:19] <takasurazeem> TJ-:http://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/install/linux_jdk.html#BJFJJEFG
[09:19] <takasurazeem> that's what I've been followning
[09:19] <takasurazeem> following*
[09:20] <TJ-> takasurazeem: Yes, as I said, the tutorial represents the shell prompt with the "%" to denote running the command with a normal user account
[09:22] <rolfy> evening
[09:22] <ObrienDave> rolfy, greetings and welcome
[09:23] <rolfy> hiya
[09:23] <rolfy> very formal greeting :)
[09:23] <ObrienDave> not really, polite and to the point LOL
[09:28] <ObrienDave> TJ-, did you scare them off? ;P
[09:31] <TJ-> ObrienDave: I hope so... not been to bed yet... trying to last all day now :)
[09:32] <ObrienDave> oh sheesh guy, go get some sleep
[09:35] <TJ-> ObrienDave: I'm chasing down a kernel regression in 3.16-rc7 right now, don't want it to get away before 3.16 is released
[09:35] <ObrienDave> ah, gotcha
[09:40] <sad> Hi
[09:40] <ObrienDave> sad, greetings and welcome
[09:40] <sad> please help me
[09:41] <ObrienDave> ask away
[09:41] <sad> how can i update tor at lubuntu 14 ?
[09:41] <k1l> !tor | sad
[09:42] <ObrienDave> !tor-sasl
[09:48] <david_> have a young friend with Ubuntu whose laptop will not come out of airplane mode
[09:49] <ObrienDave> airplane mode? you mean sleep or hibernate?
[09:49] <david_> no wireless
[09:50] <ObrienDave> which adapter?
[09:51] <ObrienDave> broadcom?
[09:51] <david_> don't know
[09:51] <ObrienDave> when does this happen? after sleep/hibernate? always?
[09:51] <david_> at startup
[09:52] <ObrienDave> so, always
[09:52] <david_> yes
[09:52] <ObrienDave> does wireless work under other OSes? like windows?
[09:53] <TJ-> david_: does the laptop have a hardware radio kill switch? is it in the enabled position?
[09:53] <david_> good question I understand he is dual booting with 8,1
[09:53] <ObrienDave> that was going to be my next question LOL
[09:54] <david_> will ask I wish I knew more
[09:54] <ObrienDave> david_, ok, it's important to get as much detail as you can. different adapters/situations have different solutions
[09:55] <david_> This boy is only 10 maybe a big ask
[09:56] <ObrienDave> ok, check for hardware switch first, then see if it works under windows, and find out the adapter model number
[09:57] <david_> Ok thanks for advice will  email him
[09:58] <ObrienDave> no problem
[10:01] <mgreg> btw has anybody seen issues booting with luks encryption on / (with 14.04)? Both times I've tried it the system ended up hanging after I put in my passphrase. Though booting in recovery mode worked fine.
[10:02] <ObrienDave> david_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[10:14] <TJ-> mgreg: No
[10:14] <ObrienDave> mgreg, just out of curiosity, do you have timeshift installed?
[10:20] <AAmit> hi
[10:21] <ObrienDave> AAmit, greetings and welcome
[10:22] <AAmit> ObrienDave: How are u today?
[10:23] <ObrienDave> good thank you, and you?
[10:24] <mgreg> @ObrienDave NAFAIK, it booted fine the first couple of times, then after i left it on for a week or so and accidentally rebooted it happened again
[10:24] <ObrienDave> you would know if you had timeshift installed
[10:25] <mgreg> the first time I thought I had caused it by trying to mount my old hdd with an encrypted home dir, the second time I hadn't touched it
[10:25] <AAmit> m also fine.... :)
[10:26] <ObrienDave> well, i had that trouble using timeshift. i purged it. sorry, but i don't know much about luks
[10:28] <mgreg> i think it was getting stuck waiting for something, but there's obviously no logs in tty0 and in recovery mode it worked (apart from my graphics drivers not loading properly)
[10:28] <truedon> hey guys - does anyone know the best way to run a ssh command over multiple servers simultaneously, so u can issue a command to 10 servers at once?
[10:29] <mgreg> add your ssh key to each server, and then use a script to issue commands?
[10:29] <mgreg> c.f. ssh-copy-id
[10:30] <jana> i need help pleeease
[10:31] <jana> happily decided to finally replace windows xp by ubuntu.
[10:32] <jana> my laptop is old, hp, AMD Turion (tm) 64 Mobile, ML-34, 789MHz, 896MB RAM, 75GB
[10:32] <jana> tried installing ubuntu 14.01. burned the image DVD
[10:33] <ObrienDave> jana, may i suggest a lighter flavor of Ubuntu? specifically Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[10:33] <jana> but i can never go beyond configuring bcmwl-kernel-source. there it always hangs
[10:33] <jana> hi obriendave.
[10:34] <jana> earlier i also tried the xubuntu. same procedure. image dvd. and it hangs at the same place.
[10:34] <ObrienDave> ok, sec
[10:34] <jana> i have so idea what to do
[10:34] <jana> :) thanks so much. i already appreaciate that you hear me!
[10:36] <ObrienDave> http://askubuntu.com/questions/288078/ubuntu-13-04-installer-hangs-on-configuring-bcmwl-kernel-source
[10:36] <ObrienDave> i know it's for an older version, but it might help you
[10:36] <nbubuntu> Anyone know how which comment to switch between PCIEx output display and internal VGA build motherboard output display ?
[10:37] <nbubuntu> command*
[10:38] <faLUCE> hello. my eth0 interface is not seen with "ifconfig -a" but it is seen as hardware with lspci... what I could do?
[10:38] <jana> i saw this entry. but i dont even know how i reach the dos-window(however this is called) where i can enter manual commands. it says at the end of the link you sent me with ctr+alt+f2 but nothing happens when i do this. and then, what do i have to enter.
[10:39] <ObrienDave> jana, reading it myself ;)
[10:39] <jana> :) thanks
[10:41] <ObrienDave> jana, try answer #2, start again and do NOT install 3rd party drivers or do updates while installing
[10:42] <jana> ok. will do. thank you obriendave. a lot.
[10:42] <jana> one more: when i start anew...since it was in both cases the same problem, does it matter if i take xbuntu or ubuntu?
[10:43] <ObrienDave> no
[10:43] <ObrienDave> i recommend Xubuntu for your laptop
[10:45] <ObrienDave> only because i run Xubuntu on mine :))
[10:46] <yz3p> i recommend lubuntu
[10:47] <OERIAS> lubuntu is the same
[10:47] <ObrienDave> as?
[10:47] <yz3p> not the same!
[10:48] <ObrienDave> yz3p, no feeding ;P
[10:48] <jana> ok. if you recommend it, so shall it be.
[10:48] <jana> i will try with xubuntu
[10:48] <jana> thank you!
[10:49] <ObrienDave> i like it, you're welcome
[10:50] <truedon> anyone using clusterssh? or a parallel shell anywhere
[10:53] <JasonoftheB> HI
[10:53] <ObrienDave> JasonoftheB, greetings and welcome
[10:54] <JasonoftheB> I got a problem with my custom icon pack. If I have it in /usr/share/icons it works.
[10:54] <JasonoftheB> But if I have it in ~/.local/share/icons it doesn't show up in unity-tweak-tools
[10:58] <ecthiender> hi when I can find update docs for supybot?
[10:58] <annoymouse> Okay. I
[10:58] <annoymouse> *I
[10:58] <annoymouse> **I'm ready to make the LiveUSB
[10:59] <annoymouse> I have an 8GB for the installer, and a 16GB for the permanent
[10:59] <ecthiender> this one also mentions its out of date.. http://ubottu.com/stdin/supydocs/supybot-docs/
[11:00] <DJones> ecthiender: I've got this link bookmarked, it may well be old though http://supybook.fealdia.org/0.0.4/#_what_is_this_document
[11:02] <nbubuntu> Anyone know how which command to switch between GCard PCIEx output display and internal VGA build motherboard output display ?
[11:08] <ObrienDave> annoymouse, wb, refresh me, what OS are you on now and which do you want to install?
[11:09] <annoymouse> I'm on OS X 10.8.5 and I am looking to make a LiveUSB of Ubuntu 14.04 (with persistence)
[11:10] <ObrienDave> and you want to make only the 16GB a permanent system or replace OSX
[11:10] <annoymouse> We determined the best way to do this was to copy the installer iso to a flash drive, and use that to install Ubuntu on a different flash drive
[11:10] <annoymouse> Only the 16GB a permanent system
[11:11] <annoymouse> I don't want to touch my OS X