[12:01] <cal> mistform: try xchat.  if you like irc alot, try irssi
[12:01] <gatekeeper> Sandor: the CD installer has a self check to make sure it is alright so you need to run that. There also could be a problem with your hard disk, so you would need to run badblocks from your livecd to find out (badblocks -v /dev/hda (or whatever it is called))
[12:01] <cowmilk> i have a new ipod. i've been charging it up for about 10 hours now and it's still not full. is this normal for a new ipod? Video ipod is what i have.
[12:01] <cal> mistform: irssi has perl scripting only, atm
[12:01] <ailean> cowmilk, this is an ubuntu channel
[12:01] <Paladine> cal xchat has perl, tcl, python to name just a few
[12:01] <ailean> cowmilk, sorry
[12:01] <Paladine> so again how is irssi better?
[12:01] <mistform> what kind of scripting is in mIRC?
[12:01] <cal> Paladine: I do know.
[12:01] <Paladine> mirc has its own scripting engine
[12:02] <mistform> dangit
[12:02] <mistform> now I have to learn another language
[12:02] <cowmilk> ailean: i'm sorry
[12:02] <nikin> irssi is better coz if you ruin your x server you can stil use it :D
[12:02] <wheels3572> pecisk, How do I use VNC since ubuntu already seems to have it installed?
[12:02] <cal> mistform: each new one gets easier.  :)
[12:02] <wheels3572> !vnc > wheels3572
[12:02] <Sandor> Thanks gatekeeper I'll go try that
[12:02] <Yoran> Hi guys, i install ubuntu with dual boot with xp. Everything works fine except that it doesn't detect any internet connection. Strange cause internet works fine on XP. What can be the cause of it not working?
[12:02] <mistform> the concept is the same
[12:03] <malc_> with apt-get I am trying to install libxine-codecs but it says it doesn't exist.      Similar to Novell's NetDrive
[12:04] <cal> Paladine: or are you assuming you know more?
[12:04] <gekko`> malc_: search here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:04] <pwnsey> Like a FTP drive
[12:04] <gatekeeper> Sandor: good luck :-)
[12:04] <Yoran> cpk2: havent tried, what is lspci?
[12:04] <malc_> thanks gekko
[12:04] <cpk2> open a terminal and type lspci
[12:04] <Yoran> cpk2: sorry but im new to ubuntu
[12:04] <wheels3572> can anyone tell me if there is a way to remove multiple things at once from the apt-get command?
[12:05] <Paladine> cal, I don't need to know anything about you, Ican pretty much guarantee that I have been involved in irc longer than 99% of theplanet,so the chances of you actually having more experience than me on theissue are remarkably slim
[12:05] <Yoran> cpk2: ok ill try but ill have to reboot then
[12:05] <bl3ssing> gekko`, can't access the konsole.
[12:05] <Tomosaurus> haha wow
[12:05] <cpk2> why?
[12:05] <Tomosaurus> this script is horrible
[12:05] <ailean> cal, Paladine, behave yourselvess
[12:05] <kimo> wheels3572: apt-get remove one two three ?
[12:05] <cpk2> Yoran: why would you need to reboot?
[12:05] <cal> Paladine: nice bullshit statistic.  consider 99% of the planet have never used irc.
[12:05] <jcplata> ailean: i try in another computer and it is possible to enter with su?
[12:05] <void^> Paladine: in that case you should know choice of irc clients is a matter of religion ;)
[12:05] <bignose_> woo internet pissing match !
[12:05] <Yoran> cpk2: im currently in windows and need to boot with ubuntu
[12:06] <cpk2> oh i see nevermind
[12:06] <userundefine> !offtopic
[12:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:06] <pwnsey> I've tried to make a virtual drive using the "Connect to Server" under places.  However, When i do that, I am unable to open files using open office.  Is there any way I can mount a network FTP Drive?
[12:06] <ailean> jcplata, with another operating system such as fedora or red hat yes
[12:06] <Paladine> void^, as I said, I have used just about every client out there and most of the ircd's my choice is xchat
[12:06] <wheels3572> kimo, I see there are multiple parts that goto VNC and I want to remove EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED with VNC
[12:06] <void^> Paladine: good for you
[12:06] <cpk2> did it show up when you tried using the network setup gui Yoran?
[12:06] <kimo> pwnsey: look at fuse maybe
[12:07] <pwnsey> Kimo: Thanks I'll take a look.
[12:07] <vortexvein> I have a problem with my sound on Ubuntu. When I use Intel 82801BA-ICH2 device, I get good sound on the front-left speaker in when the headphones switch is on. on Audigy 1 [SB00090] , no matter how much I play around with it, I either get no sound, or static.
[12:07] <cal> pwnsey: im almost certain it came in with some other plan 9 stuff.  i can't remember how though.  it's possible to build in support
[12:08] <abo> can anyone help me to fix a problem with video plugin in firefox, some videos are working fine in konqueror but not in firefox, someother do not work in either
[12:08] <jcplata> ailean: no i do it in ubuntu breazy 5.10
[12:08] <kimo> pwnsey: if u dont do that very often though  ... just copy the file back & forth ...... or use koffice?!
[12:08] <IRCLemur> Hello everyone! :)
[12:08] <Seveas> hi IRCLemur
[12:08] <ailean> jcplata, really?
[12:08] <pwnsey> Cal: Plan 9 stuff?
[12:09] <IRCLemur> First time Ubuntu boot, here...
[12:09] <Paladine> Plan 9 publish cool books
[12:09] <pwnsey> Kimo: yeah i use it a lot, between a windows and linux computer.  Lots of documents going back and forth
[12:09] <Wiseguy> hey guys can i ask ubuntu server questions here? or is there another channel?
[12:09] <jcplata> ailean: really, i do it few minutes ago
[12:09] <Seveas> Paladine, plan9 also is very offtopic in here
[12:09] <userundefine> Wiseguy, here's fine
[12:09] <javaJake> Hello guys. I'm trying to get networkmanager working. It sees my wireless networks, but cannot connect
[12:09] <javaJake> Any ideas?
[12:09] <kimo> pwnsey: if it's a windows share, it can be mounted easily ..
[12:09] <IRCLemur> I have questions about the LiveCD....
[12:09] <Paladine> Seveas, I never raised the topic :) Imerely commented on it
[12:09] <ailean> jcplata, maybe you should ask someone else then :D
[12:09] <Seveas> Wiseguy, here is fine, #ubuntu-server ma work too for you
[12:09] <pwnsey> Its not, its a FTP server
[12:10] <Seveas> Paladine, that doesn't make it less off-topic
[12:10] <pwnsey> Kimo:  Its a ftp server.
[12:10] <cpk2> javaJake: you know the wiki has a pretty good wireless troubleshooting guide?
[12:10] <ba5e> ohh gnome crawls with 256MB ram!! ahhh!
[12:10] <javaJake> I have checked that out
[12:10] <bignose_> hrmm if install the nvidia-kernel-common jive, will i need to reinstall the vmware modules ?
[12:10] <kimo> pwnsey: ok .. the only thing I can think of, is maybe fuse
[12:10] <javaJake> I have commented out the devices and whatnot
[12:10] <cal> pwnsey: yeah, plan 9 ha a lot of network mounting related stuff.  mounting ftp was a plan 9 thing.
[12:10] <Seveas> bignose_, nvidia and vmware are completely separate entities
[12:10] <pwnsey> Kimo: I'll check out fuse.  Thanks
[12:10] <ky_> how would i wipe my hardrive with ubuntu
[12:10] <pwnsey> Cal: Yeah, I'll take a look at that as well.
[12:10] <javaJake> cpk2, I can get it working this way:
[12:10] <Seveas> cal, please take offtopic talk elsewhere
[12:11] <jcplata> ailean: the main problem is that i try to install a libcupsimage2-dev and the console said me that the download directoriy is block
[12:11] <bignose_> Seveas: yes, however i've read that when upgrading the kernel , vmware often bitches. so i wasn't sure. i guess i'd learn soon enough :)
[12:11] <danf_1979> Hi, any good firewall out in the repos?
[12:11] <danf_1979> console based...
[12:11] <cal> Seveas: i wasn't talking about plan 9
[12:11] <userundefine> danf_1979, iptables
[12:11] <IRCLemur> I have booted from the LiveCD and installed XMMS... is there anyway to "nest" or retain the changes I've made to Ubuntu?
[12:11] <Miek> iptables :p
[12:11] <Seveas> bignose_, vmware alwaus bitches about kernel upgrades
[12:11] <javaJake> cpk2, 1. tell networkmanager to connect to network 2. run sudo ifup wlan0 3. networkmanager reports connected
[12:11] <Wiseguy> ok, well im trying to get my internet connection working from one of the nics in my gateway (i have 2).. both are detected and i can bring both interfaces up, but during the setup it said dhcp failed to get an ip address from my modem.. anyone have any ideas why i cant get an IP from my modem?
[12:11] <cal> Seveas: i was trying to help him find the ftp mounting stuff
[12:11] <bignose_> Seveas: that's why i asked :)
[12:11] <Paladine> bignose, vmware is built based on your kernel headers, if you change your kernel you need todownload the new headers and rebuild vmware
[12:11] <danf_1979> I want one iptables based
[12:11] <kimo> pwnsey: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_FTP_Mount
[12:11] <bignose_> Paladine: word. thanks.
[12:11] <cpk2> javaJake: how is that a problem?
[12:11] <ailean> jcplata, i'd love to help you  more, but i can't. open your question to the floor
[12:11] <danf_1979> a wrapper
[12:11] <jcplata> ailean: for that reason i try to enter as a root user.. i install in another pc and there's no problem but now i have problems.
[12:12] <pwnsey> kimo: Thanks!  I'll take a look.  I owe you.
[12:12] <javaJake> cpk2, because I don't want to have to punch in sudo ifup wlan0 just to get networkmanager to work
[12:12] <cpk2> javaJake: what is networkmanager doing for you?
[12:12] <ailean> jcplata, and you tried the command with "sudo" before it?
[12:12] <Grue_Lovah> is there a way to make flash movies on linux?
[12:12] <cpk2> !info networkmanager
[12:12] <ubotu> Package networkmanager does not exist in dapper
[12:12] <jcplata> ailean: thank you a lot.
[12:12] <javaJake> cpk2, automatically switch to new network, and use keys automatically
[12:12] <Seveas> !info network-manager
[12:12] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework (daemon). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 532 kB
[12:12] <ky_> someone help me
[12:12] <jcplata> ailean: yes, i alredy try with sudo command
[12:12] <javaJake> cpk2, it will only work for one network. I need to reconfigure interfaces file to get it working elsewhere
[12:13] <erUSUL> !anyone > ky_
[12:13] <cal> javaJake: considered a quick script?
[12:13] <javaJake> ky_, run the livecd, and format
[12:13] <javaJake> cal, yes, but I want to get this working first
[12:13] <javaJake> ky_, unless you want to write 0s
[12:13] <bignose_> besides rebooting is thre a recommended way to restart x ?
[12:13] <bignose_> kill -HUP gdm i guess :)
[12:14] <cal> bignose_: ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:14] <cpk2> javaJake: it does work, is wlan0 even on at bootup?
[12:14] <bignose_> won't that just bring me back to gdm menu ?
[12:14] <cal> bignose_: gdm will (normally annoying) restart itself
[12:14] <danf_1979> I tried to install APF Firewall, but it seems that it doesn't support debian based distros. Also tried Firehole, but I didn't like it... any other one you could recommend?
[12:14] <ba5e> If I have multiple Java releases installed, where can I find the files so I can delete the ones I dont need?
[12:14] <javaJake> cpk2, I have it commented out, as per wiki'
[12:14] <javaJake> cpk2, I uncomment after nm-applet loads so ifup works
[12:14] <ba5e> danf_1979: whatn about just iptables
[12:15] <IRCLemur> Can I save the changes that I've made to Ubuntu and reload them from USB?
[12:15] <bignose_> woo, that did it.
[12:15] <Dev05> Hi there. I installed SuSE with my Ubuntu system and now Ubuntu doesn't boot from GRUB. It says that it canot mount "this type of partition". Any idea?
[12:15] <bignose_> thanks.
[12:15] <ba5e> danf_1979: use firestarter on top
[12:15] <javaJake> bignose_, there's a cleaner way... hold on two secs
[12:15] <Grue_Lovah> f41 ahhh
[12:15] <danf_1979> I prefer a good, easy, newbie friendly wrapper...
[12:15] <cal> IRCLemur: needlessly difficult.  why?
[12:15] <danf_1979> It must be console based
[12:15] <javaJake> bignose_, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:15] <bignose_> javaJake: coo
[12:15] <Seveas> Dev05, please consult #suse on their way to restore grub configurations
[12:16] <jcplata> anyone can help me to install libcupsimage2-dev in my ubuntu pc?
[12:16] <ba5e> Dev05: reinstall grub from the Ubuntu live cd, probably newer vesion
[12:16] <IRCLemur> cal: Because I do not wish to delete my winblows system from my 5.59GB HD.
[12:16] <Dev05> Seveas, It says that I'm banned from it :S I don't know. I've never used this NickName in #suse.
[12:16] <javaJake> cpk2, any ideas about nm?
[12:16] <kimo> Dev05: yep, I get the same error, but it boots ok if the kernel & initrd are correct!!!
[12:16] <Seveas> danf_1979, newbie friendly and console based don't really go together
[12:17] <danf_1979> Seveas, this is for server based installations
[12:17] <danf_1979> there is no gui
[12:17] <cal> IRCLemur: there isn't a nice way to do it.  maybe look at diffing conf files or something.
[12:17] <Dev05> kimo, They are correct. Eveything is there.
[12:17] <Seveas> danf_1979, consider shorewall, it has a web interface that's easy to enable/disable
[12:17] <erUSUL> jcplata: sudo apt-get install libcupsys2-dev (or with synaptic)
[12:17] <Dev05> ba5e, Shouldn't it work anyway? I mean, is just booting a Kernel up.
[12:17] <cpk2> javaJake: wpasupplicant off?
[12:17] <IRCLemur> cal: I'm new to linux- Should I give up now? lol
[12:18] <javaJake> cpk2, I don't know. I don't use it
[12:18] <cal> IRCLemur: have you made a lot of changes?
[12:18] <kimo> Dev05: dont know, on my machine it boots ok, but if I hit e in grub I get that error about not mounting that partition!
[12:18] <cal> IRCLemur: it is most likely easier to start again
[12:18] <javaJake> cpk2, how do I turn it off?
[12:18] <cpk2> javaJake: it needs to be set to 0
[12:18] <Dev05> kimo, Bug?
[12:18] <javaJake> cpk2, where?
[12:18] <DarkSnake> Okay, problem here, I have a working router and a Linux box connected to it. This computer is on the same one. I don't get an IPv4 on the linux box, just an IPv6. Anyone know what the problem might be? Eth0 is enabled.
[12:18] <javaJake> cpk2, sorry, I can't help being a n00b.
[12:18] <danf_1979> I'll take a look, but I really prefer something like APF firewall. The problem with it is that it expects a /etc/rc.init/ directory, and a /etc/rc.init/functions file that doesn't exist...
[12:18] <cpk2> javaJake: /etc/default/wpasupplicant
[12:18] <IRCLemur> cal:  Not many, but I would make several more were it possible to restore them from LiveCD boot.
[12:18] <kimo> Dev05: I am very inclined to think so!
[12:18] <cpk2> javaJake: ENABLED=0
[12:19] <javaJake> cpk2, thanks for the patience! It's really appreciated!!
[12:19] <mistform> javajake: y yo tambien
[12:19] <kimo> Dev05: u might want to install grub from ubuntu
[12:19] <ky_> i dont know linux can someone walk me through reformatting my hard drive plz
[12:19] <javaJake> misfit_toy, huh?
[12:19] <Dev05> kimo, I'll try hacking on my menu.lst before trying anything else...  :)
[12:19] <bignose_> ky_: linux is not about being walked thur things. do some reasearch.
[12:19] <greenman> can someone point me in the direction of the livecd?  I've done it before but I can't seem to find it.
[12:19] <mistform> ky_: what are you trying to do?
[12:19] <cal> ky_: start doing it a post here when you have an issue
[12:19] <bignose_> greenman: the default cd is the live cd.
[12:19] <Gun_Smoke> Looking for information on changing an icon theme.. Looked on gnome-look.org... nothing.  Looked on ubuntuguide.org, nothing.. help?
[12:19] <Seveas> !attitude > bignose_
[12:19] <mistform> knoppix?
[12:20] <ba5e> Dev05: you would think so, try changing the kernel arguements
[12:20] <greenman> bignose_: how do you use it as a livecd?
[12:20] <cal> ky_: fdisk is a good program to use.  gparted too.
[12:20] <ky_> im trying to take linux off my comp so that i can put windows on
[12:20] <Gun_Smoke> I have the theme.. I just don't know how to change it.
[12:20] <greenman> mine only comes up with options to install
[12:20] <bignose_> greenman: i don't, but you certainly can.
[12:20] <javaJake> cpk2, /etc/default/wpasupplicant does not exist
[12:20] <Seveas> Gun_Smoke, art.gnome.org/faq.php
[12:20] <javaJake> cpk2, doy... make it :D
[12:20] <Seveas> (i think)
[12:20] <Gun_Smoke> Seveas:  Thanks.  looking
[12:20] <nikin> i get the folowing message of the printer
[12:20] <bignose_> greenman: i think at some point they made the install cd and live cd all one cd. so that'll work for you.
[12:20] <mistform> ky_: just put your windows CD and boot from the CD
[12:20] <nikin> Hold: Can't open FIFO: Permission denied
[12:20] <cpk2> i dont think it needs to have that file, but i guess wont hurt to make it
[12:20] <Dev05> ba5e, I'll make the Ubuntu entry look like the SuSE one, but with its own args and partition numbers and I'll se what I get/
[12:20] <DarkSnake> Okay, problem here, I have a working router and a Linux box connected to it. This computer is on the same one. I don't get an IPv4 on the linux box, just an IPv6. Anyone know what the problem might be? Eth0 is enabled.
[12:20] <choique> hi i need help whith vhcs
[12:21] <mistform> ky_: then it will give you an option to partition
[12:21] <ky_> i tried and it wont work
[12:21] <skitzomike> does anyone know why nessus would give me a segmentation fault every time click scan
[12:21] <ky_> ok partition how do u do that?
[12:21] <Seveas> DarkSnake, eth0 also setup to use dhcp?
[12:21] <mistform> ky_: you have to DELETE the partition, and create a new one
[12:21] <greenman> bignose_: can you or someone else tell me how to use the regular cd as a livecd?  It just wants to install when I boot
[12:21] <ky_> k and how do i do that?
[12:21] <DarkSnake> Seveas Yes, eth0 is using DHCP
[12:21] <IRCLemur> cal:  what is the smallest amout of MB/GB needed to install Ubuntu on a dual boot system?
[12:21] <Seveas> greenman, you can't do that,,,
[12:21] <userundefine> ky_, if you just want to install windows, put the windows cd in and it will format the drive for you.
[12:21] <javaJake> cpk2, I'll be back after reboot, unless there's an easier way....
[12:21] <choique> i install vhcs and when intent enter in a vhcs i not see anithing
[12:21] <bignose_> greenman: what is the filename of the iso you burned ?
[12:21] <bignose_> greenman: i suspect you have an older version.
[12:21] <ky_> it wont let me do that
[12:22] <greenman> Seveas: what can I do?
[12:22] <Seveas> DarkAudit, try running dhclient manually: sudo dhclient eth0
[12:22] <cal> IRCLemur: no idea, sorry
[12:22] <jcplata> erUSUL: i try with synaptic but it show me this error.. the download directory is temporaly block 11 resource
[12:22] <cpk2> javaJake: i assume you made the appropiate changes to /etc/dbus-1/system.d/networkmanager.conf
[12:22] <greenman> bignose_: ubuntu-6.06-server-amd64.iso
[12:22] <Seveas> greenman, you can't use the alternative install cd as live cd. That's impossible
[12:22] <Dev05> greenman, Didn't you get the Server version?
[12:22] <DarkSnake> Seveas Okay, I'll try that
[12:22] <Seveas> greenman, same goes for the server cd
[12:22] <Dev05> greenman, Oh yeah, you did.
[12:22] <bignose_> greenman: that's the server cd.. if you want live cd, you need to use the desktop cd afaik.
[12:22] <cpk2> and to nm-applet.conf
[12:22] <Seveas> greenman, only the desktop cd is a live cd
[12:22] <greenman> bignose_: ah.
[12:22] <ky_> how do i partition
[12:23] <greenman> I thought that's what I downloaded.  Sorry.  And thanks
[12:23] <erUSUL> jcplata: are you running more than one instance at once? or the update manager? try with the command i gave you
[12:23] <bignose_> you wouldn't really want to run a server off a livecd. well maybe in a specialized situation,b ut not in general.
[12:23] <javaJake> cpk2, what do you mean?
[12:23] <Seveas> bignose_, the only actual enviroonmet i've seen that being useful in is data recovery
[12:24] <Seveas> gnomefreak, you KDE fetishist! :
[12:24] <bignose_> Seveas: yeah or maybe some weird diskless server that stores setting on USB or some filthy mcnasty thing like that.
[12:24] <Evil_Ed`> hello
[12:24] <Seveas> heh, filthy mcnasty
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ;)
[12:24] <greenman> heh filthy mcnasty
[12:24] <cpk2> you need to set "allow" on a couple of lines in networkmanager.conf and nm-applet.conf
[12:24] <bignose_> i guess it might work well for a NAT box or somethin
[12:24] <jcplata> erUSUL: i allredy use that command sudo apt-get install libcupsimage2-dev
[12:24] <Seveas> /nick FilthyMcNasty
[12:24] <javaJake> cpk2, OK... well... I assume this is in the wiki
[12:24] <erUSUL> jcplata: and?? it worked? note that you have to close synaptic
[12:25] <cal> bignose_: link would help ;)
[12:25] <jcplata> this is the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19339
[12:25] <eigenlambda> Seveas: i am quite impressed with your kana
[12:25] <eigenlambda> that is going in my chars file
[12:25] <Seveas> eigenlambda, look at gucharmap
[12:25] <bignose_> cal : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226792
[12:25] <choique> hey any body read this?
[12:25] <eigenlambda> yes, i know
[12:25] <bignose_> choique: newp. we can't see a think you're typing :)
[12:25] <gnomefreak> bignose_: you know there is a forums channel on irc too ;)
[12:25] <bignose_> gnomefreak: i didn't actually.
[12:25] <eigenlambda> i hadn't thought of using a shi as an emoticon
[12:25] <Sandor> ok when i attempt to run badblocks it says permission denied...
[12:25] <gnomefreak> bignose_: #ubuntu-forums
[12:26] <Evil_Ed`> fun
[12:26] <Seveas> eigenlambda, it's a tsu
[12:26] <bignose_> gnomefreak: cool.
[12:26] <cal> bignose_: VMWare.  im no help.  :
[12:26] <cal> P
[12:26] <radioaktivstorm> hello! how do I access rood from the terminal ; I want to run zephyr
[12:26] <choique> ok bignose_
[12:26] <cpk2> javaJake: just looked and it is... so hopefully you did everything the wiki said
[12:26] <radioaktivstorm> *root
[12:26] <Seveas> !root > radioaktivstorm
[12:26] <gnomefreak> radioaktivstorm: sudo -i
[12:26] <choique> i have a problem in vhcs.. any body can helpme?
[12:26] <bignose_> choique: be more specific
[12:27] <Wiseguy> hey guys im trying to get my internet connection working from one of the nics in my gateway (i have 2).. both are detected and i can bring both interfaces up, but during the setup it said dhcp failed to get an ip address from my modem.. anyone have any ideas why i cant get an IP from my modem?
[12:27] <cpk2> Wiseguy: its selfish?
[12:27] <javaJake> cpk2, My bad. I thought that was if there was an error with dbus
[12:27] <javaJake> cpk2, thanks!
[12:27] <radioaktivstorm> thanks!
[12:28] <DarkSnake> Seveas sudo dhclient eth0 just gave me some error about no working leases in persistant database
[12:28] <cpk2> javaJake: it looks like its just for errors but still it's nice to double check
[12:28] <javaJake> Yea
[12:28] <eigenlambda> what's a 0095?
[12:28] <Seveas> DarkSnake, then the dhcp server isn't responding. pastebin the output of sudo mii-diag eth0
[12:28] <Wiseguy> cpk2: my router also wont get an IP from my modem, but i think its just a coincidence, i dont think its related
[12:28] <Dev05> ba5e, kimo, I got another question while I'm here. Can I boot Windows directly from GRUB or I always need to chain loaders?
[12:28] <Seveas> eigenlambda, babi ketjap
[12:28] <DarkSnake> I can't really paste anything, it's in another room... hmm...
[12:29] <choique> ok bignose i install vhcs and install ok but when i tried to enter in vhcs dont see anything
[12:29] <bignose_> Wiseguy: disable one NIC and try it. or try a different machine if you have one. rule out the modem hardware first..
[12:29] <_darksoul> !ati
[12:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <Seveas> DarkSnake, does it say 'you have link beat'?
[12:29] <Seveas> (no need to paste)
[12:29] <bignose_> choique: i have no experience with vhcs, i was just suggesting if you want help, you need to be more specific.
[12:29] <Wiseguy> bignose_: i am able to get an IP from the modem with my ubuntu desktop box
[12:29] <cpk2> javaJake: might want to check  http://live.gnome.org/networkmanagerhardware
[12:30] <DarkSnake> Seveas lemme go check
[12:30] <bignose_> Wiseguy: just not server eh ?
[12:30] <erUSUL> Dev05: what would be the diference?
[12:30] <Wiseguy> yeah
[12:30] <ba5e> Dev05: no you dont
[12:30] <bignose_> Wiseguy: strange.  no idea. but yeah try disabling one of the 2 nics and trying.
[12:31] <Dev05> erUSUL, I have GRUB, the Vista Loader and the XP and erlier loader. To boot two of my OSes I have to go trough three different menus.
[12:31] <Dev05> ba5e, Oh :(
[12:32] <DarkSnake> Seveas It did not say "You have link beat"
[12:32] <Seveas> DarkSnake, then the physical connection (aka the cable) is not working
[12:32] <jcplata> erUSUL: what do you think about my error?
[12:32] <minerale> does anyone else's firefox crashed from this flash game: http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/dice/dice.html ?
[12:32] <DarkSnake> I was wondering if that was the csae
[12:32] <DarkSnake> case
[12:32] <gr33npho3nix> does anybody know how i can make the power button on my laptop initiate shutdown instead of pop-up the logout screen
[12:32] <ba5e> Dev05: what is your GRUB entry for ubuntu in the new GRUB?
[12:32] <DarkSnake> I'll try criming it agian later.
[12:33] <ba5e> nope hes gone!
[12:33] <erUSUL> jcplata: i missed that. did you used the command i gave you? do you have all repos enabled?
[12:33] <DarkSnake> Thanks for the help
[12:33] <javaJake> It didn't work
[12:33] <javaJake> Worth a shot
[12:33] <erUSUL> !synaptic > jcplata
[12:33] <ba5e> gr33npho3nix: yeah its easy
[12:33] <javaJake> cpk2, I think this is interesting:
[12:33] <erUSUL> !sources > jcplata
[12:33] <javaJake> cpk2, Jul 31 18:30:50 localhost NetworkManager: <information>^Iwpa_supplicant(6985): Association request to the driver failed
[12:33] <HackMaster> I need some help installing ubuntu on a computer with no network and no bootable CD drive
[12:33] <javaJake> cpk2, I'm using ndiswrapper drivers
[12:34] <ba5e> gr33npho3nix: system : preferences : power
[12:34] <jcplata> erUSUL: how can i enable that repos and sources?
[12:34] <mistform> hacmaster: it doesn't have a CD drive?
[12:34] <javaJake> HackMaster, do you have a CD drive?
[12:34] <gekko`> !source-o-matic
[12:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:34] <erUSUL> jcplata: read what ubotu told you
[12:34] <javaJake> HackMaster, you can use the floppy to boot the CD
[12:35] <gr33npho3nix> ba5e: thanks, never checked there
[12:35] <mistform> yeah, but it takes alot of floppies ;)
[12:35] <HackMaster> yes, it has an old 4 cd changer that is not detected by anything
[12:35] <Wiseguy> bignose_: how do i rerun dhcpcd again on an interface? dhcpcd eth1 doesnt work... i disabled the onboard NIC
[12:35] <mistform> I would just use a USB flash drive
[12:35] <HackMaster> i tried the floppy that tries, but it refuses to detect it
[12:35] <mistform> hackmaster: did you check in BIOS?
[12:35] <ba5e> gr33npho3nix: actually you cant shutdown from there, only hibernate or sleep!
[12:35] <HackMaster> there is is no real bios
[12:35] <bignose_> Wiseguy: man dhcpd see what is says :)
[12:35] <gr33npho3nix> i just know ubuntu switched it at one point and i was really dissapointed cause i liked that when i was exhausted and heading to bed
[12:35] <gr33npho3nix> damn
[12:35] <javaJake> mistform, you read my mind
[12:35] <mistform> does it POST?
[12:36] <javaJake> HackMaster, what!?
[12:36] <HackMaster> its an old HP thing with a flat panel screen and everythign behind the screen
[12:36] <gr33npho3nix> i'm looking for shutdown or even to put shutdown back in the log out menu
[12:36] <HackMaster> its insane
[12:36] <len> Hi, can any1 tell me how to execute a command in shell as other user?
[12:36] <mistform> if it post's, it has a BIOS lol
[12:36] <HackMaster> the bios itself is like a graphical interface
[12:36] <SGL> Hello
[12:36] <ba5e> HackMaster: do you have a CD drive?
[12:36] <javaJake> HackMaster, yea.... wow.....
[12:36] <bignose_> Wiseguy: you may want to look at dhclient [note most of my experience is with FreeBSD so i hope i don't leed you astray]
[12:36] <mistform> did you hit Del during boot?
[12:36] <harisund> Hello! Anybody with experience using NFS here? Can one user not setup a share of another user?
[12:36] <SGL> How can I apt-get install openssl-devel ???
[12:36] <Nuked> HAHAHAHHAHAH!!!! IVE DONE IT!!! MY OWN LIVE CD!!!!
[12:36] <HackMaster> it says "COMPAQ" then proceeds to boot into windows 95
[12:36] <SGL> I need it, but can't find the manage
[12:36] <Wiseguy> bignose_: it says unknown command... how could dhcpd not be installed by default? :P
[12:36] <javaJake> Nuked, congrats :P
[12:36] <SGL> but can't find the package
[12:37] <bignose_> Wiseguy: because ubuntu does not install servers by default. dhcpd is a server.
[12:37] <erUSUL> SGL: do you have all repos enabled?
[12:37] <harisund> Wiseguy dhcpd is not installed by default. What are you looking for?
[12:37] <javaJake> HackMaster, sounds like an evil computer. :)
[12:37] <erUSUL> !sources > SGL
[12:37] <SGL> erUSUL: define "all"
[12:37] <HackMaster> it has a bios feature, but it has stuff like enable power settings and such
[12:37] <bignose_> Wiseguy: look for dhclient instead.
[12:37] <javaJake> cpk2, do you have any ideas?
[12:37] <HackMaster> no boot from CD
[12:37] <HackMaster> @javajake i know
[12:37] <mistform> not "boot from CD"
[12:37] <erUSUL> SGL: universe at least
[12:37] <len> I need to execute a command in my shell as another user. Ne1 know how to do it?
[12:37] <mistform> does it detect anything under the IDE?
[12:37] <HackMaster> what is it?
[12:38] <SGL> shit.. have to go. Be right back later to try again
[12:38] <mistform> what is what, the IDE?
[12:38] <HackMaster> what is "it"
[12:38] <javaJake> len, if you have ssh installed
[12:38] <dr_willis> lun su command
[12:38] <javaJake> len, you can use that
[12:38] <generalleoff> Does Eye of GNOME support viewing MNG files or is there some package I can install to inable it to do so?
[12:38] <HackMaster> it is useable in win 95
[12:38] <Intangir> does anyone use Xvnc?
[12:38] <javaJake> HackMaster, there's a way to install Ubuntu within an OS
[12:38] <blinker> does rythmbox play mp3's out of the box, or is a plugin req'd?
[12:38] <HackMaster> i know
[12:38] <javaJake> HackMaster, unfortunaltey I don't know how to do that
[12:38] <dr_willis> Intangir,  i use vnc :)
[12:38] <mistform> the CD drive should be detected as like, "Toshiba 4-disc CD-ROM <serial>"
[12:38] <len> javaJake: I dont think I have it installed, but I'll check it now
[12:38] <HackMaster> but it requires the ues of the network
[12:38] <Nuked> javaJake: thanks
[12:38] <majestikm> I'm trying to tri-boot ubuntu, osx, and windows on my macbook.  I'm using rEFIt and lilo... what should be /etc/lilo.conf look like?
[12:39] <JDStone> if I want to just install X on Ubuntu and no desktop environment, what package would I install?
[12:39] <javaJake> len, thanks
[12:39] <Intangir> Xvnc -inetd is crashing for me.. it doesnt crash on one machine, but it crashes on another.. oh a 64bit machine
[12:39] <tuxtux> good night at all
[12:39] <HackMaster> mistform, you taking to me?
[12:39] <len> javaJake: btw I never used ssh b4 XD
[12:39] <Intangir> Xvnc -inetd is crashing on my 64bit machine for some reason, ive tried TWO different version (tightvnc 3.3.tight.. and vncserver 3.3.7)
[12:39] <mistform> hackmaster, I'm trying to help
[12:39] <HackMaster> mistform, you are correct. that is detected in win 95
[12:39] <javaJake> len, ok...
[12:39] <dr_willis> Intangir,  cant recall ever doing it that way. i had vncserver set where xinetd could spawn it as needed. and give me a gdm login
[12:39] <HackMaster> mistform, it is the approx name, i am not near the computer right now
[12:40] <mistform> ok
[12:40] <dr_willis> Intangir,  i tend to use vnc4server
[12:40] <JDStone> if I want to just install just Xserver on Ubuntu and no desktop environment, what package would I install?
[12:40] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: is it possible to connect the hard drive to a second computer and DD over a hard drive image?
[12:40] <len> javaJake: how do I enable ssh here? I got this ssh: connect to host len port 22: Connection refused
[12:40] <mistform> go into the "Boot Device Priority" or something like that, and make sure that the CD drive is selected before the HD
[12:40] <Seveas> len, apt-get install ssh
[12:41] <len> Seveas, k thx
[12:41] <erUSUL> JDStone: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:41] <HackMaster> mistform, there is no such thing in the bios
[12:41] <javaJake> len, install openssh-server
[12:41] <HackMaster> it scans the disk in the drive before it boots, but it never boots
[12:41] <JDStone> erUSUL: I don't want fluxbox, just X
[12:41] <HackMaster> before it boots windows
[12:41] <javaJake> HackMaster, excellent idea!
[12:41] <mistform> hackmaster: there has to be a boot priority, or boot sequence part
[12:41] <unikon>  has there ever been any login issues with 5.10 breezy after a fresh install
[12:41] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: no boot priority in any way
[12:41] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i have searched all over it
[12:42] <Wiseguy> dhclient didnt work either on the modem... it worked when i plugged the NIC into the router, i was able to get an IP from it..
[12:42] <Intangir> dr_willis: ya im trying to set it up like that, in that setup you use the -inetd parameter in xinetd's config
[12:42] <dr_willis> unikon,  not that i have heard of.. Breezy is pld.
[12:42] <javaJake> HackMaster, yea, definately an evil computer. M$'s fingerprints all over him
[12:42] <mistform> like, my laptop can boot from USB, DVD, PC card, HD
[12:42] <Intangir> dr_willis: but apparently its a 64bit issue, that makes it segfault ;( on ALL versions!
[12:42] <erUSUL> JDStone: you will need at least one window manager... and doing what i said will install fonts and other things that maybe would get missed if you install only xserver-xorg
[12:42] <jcplata> erUSUL: which command show me the PID?
[12:42] <dr_willis> Intangir,  hmm. i dont recall.. :P i followed a Gentoo wiki on it.. I dont mess with 64bit disrtos yet
[12:42] <sinppa_> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1123221217782777472
[12:42] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: and every other computer of mine will boot from just about anything
[12:42] <len> Seveas, javaJake: Do u know any good page, so I can follow as tutorial to use ssh?
[12:42] <javaJake> len, this is super easy
[12:42] <erUSUL> jcplata: the PID of which process??
[12:43] <RAF> micio
[12:43] <javaJake> len, open terminal, and run sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:43] <Seveas> len, any introduction to shell commands will do
[12:43] <dink_> I am running ubtuntu 6.06 lts. I have the soundcard working perfect under xmms. When I go to play sound in anything outside of xmms it is fuzzy and makes poping noises.. How can I make my system sound the same as xmms
[12:43] <Seveas> !commands > len
[12:43] <mistform> hackmaster: it has a boot sequence, but you just have to find it.  different ones have different names and ways they set them up.
[12:43] <javaJake> len, you should then be able to run ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:43] <riffic> problem with firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:43] <jcplata> erUSUL: all PID executing at this moment in my pc?
[12:43] <dink_> this problem does not exist under debian 3.1
[12:43] <HackMaster> mistform, i thought too, but its very weird
[12:43] <mistform> I did a hardware hack and set numbers, like, 1,2,3,0,0
[12:43] <javaJake> mistform, let's assume that hackmaster doesn't have a boot list
[12:43] <riffic> open firefox, quit firefox, try to open firefox again, error: firefox already in use
[12:43] <erUSUL> jcplata: ps ax
[12:43] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: thats the first thing i did
[12:43] <dink_> does anyone else have a fuzzy sound card issue
[12:44] <riffic> pkill firefox, reopen firefox, works normally
[12:44] <ba5e> HackMaster: if the cd/bios is not eltorito compatible, it will not bood CD's
[12:44] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: is look for a boot order
[12:44] <dink_> and was able to get it to work fine under xmms
[12:44] <dink_> but not under anything else
[12:44] <len> Seveas, javaJake: Yeah I think I got it... I just installed the openssh-server, and now is asking for password. Thx
[12:44] <riffic> is this an extension issue or is firefox messed up?
[12:44] <ba5e> HackMaster:  do you have a floppy drive?
[12:44] <javaJake> len, yw
[12:44] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: yes
[12:44] <mistform> then how did they get the original OS on there.....
[12:44] <dink_> having flash files sound fuzzy is annoying enough to want to go back to deb
[12:44] <dorito> hello. i use ubuntu 6.06 .. i want to download the kernel headers. would you help?
[12:44] <Dev05> ba5e, kimo, Hold on, the SuSE 10.1 version of GRUB cannot mount EXT2 volumes???
[12:44] <JDStone> thanks erUSUL, that'll work
[12:44] <help-the-n00b> listen to specific artists?
[12:44] <frosty_badfish> how do I know which hotkey-setup my system use, my fn key for volume up and down doesn't work
[12:44] <jcplata> erUSUL: thak you
[12:44] <dink_> dorito: you can apt-get them
[12:44] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: it will boot from floppy
[12:44] <ba5e> Dev05: lol!
[12:44] <javaJake> HackMaster, get Smart Boot on the floppy
[12:44] <help-the-n00b> is there program where I can listen to specific artists?
[12:44] <javaJake> HackMaster, then the floppy will boot with a list of devices to boot from
[12:44] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i tried that
[12:45] <ba5e> Dev05: paste your menu.lst to pastebin
[12:45] <dorito> dink_ no.. i want to have them stand alone for later uses too
[12:45] <javaJake> HackMaster, oh, wow... you are, like, on top of this.  Talk about EVIL! Can't say that enough!!!
[12:45] <dorito> hum.. k
[12:45] <Intangir> how do i download a specific package, from a specific repository? even if its not in my sources or anything?
[12:45] <Intangir> i need the .deb file
[12:45] <abo> how can I get totem to play rmm files?
[12:45] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i also did the 5 floppy trick to boot up grub and the network install app
[12:45] <javaJake> cpk2, do you have any nm ideas?
[12:45] <dink_> is anyone else aware of a ac 97 sound issue
[12:45] <ba5e> HackMaster: you need to create a small bootable linux environment, there is a bootdisk environment that will load an ubuntu cd, i will search for in for the name
[12:45] <gnomefreak> Intangir: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:46] <dink_> how do i make ubuntu strictly use alsa-oss
[12:46] <help-the-n00b> anyone know?
[12:46] <Intangir> cool
[12:46] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: it proceeds all the way to the DHCP search, and my custom installed NIC wont do anything
[12:46] <blinker> help-the-n00b: nope, sorry...i'm still working on the basics of mp3 playback, lol
[12:46] <dink_> blinker, i can help with that
[12:46] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i can 3
[12:46] <help-the-n00b> wats dat
[12:46] <bignose_> !mp3
[12:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:46] <Seveas> dink_, why would you want to go back in time? ISS is deprecated
[12:46] <dink_> help-the-noonb
[12:46] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: oops
[12:46] <dink_> whats up
[12:46] <frosty_badfish> help-the-n00b: do you want to listen to specific music genres?
[12:46] <dink_> seveas: it works
[12:46] <dink_> everything else is fuzzy
[12:46] <javaJake> ba5e, mistform, HackMaster: If you can't get your internet to work, then don
[12:47] <javaJake> 't upgrade
[12:47] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i can get into the termal in the network boot installer
[12:47] <phuzz> stupid question: how do you unhide the system tray? (someone hid it when I was out) haha
[12:47] <Dev05> ba5e, Here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19340
[12:47] <Seveas> dink_, in that case: use an abacus
[12:47] <erUSUL> dink_: i'm nt sure i understand the question. apps use alsa oss emulation layer. you will have to change apps settings
[12:47] <dink_> hehe or i can drop ubuntu and use a real os as in debian :-P (j/k)
[12:47] <blinker> dink_ rythmbox doesn't seem to be playing any mp3's despite claiming to be able to
[12:47] <Seveas> dink_, sure
[12:47] <Dev05> phuxx, Right-click the little gray thing at the left of it and choose "Remove from Panel".
[12:47] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: any other suggestions?
[12:47] <dink_> blinker: have you ran easy ubuntu script
[12:47] <help-the-n00b> frosty_badfish, ye
[12:47] <Seveas> or go with windows where such sound issues don't exist
[12:47] <help-the-n00b> yeh
[12:48] <Dev05> phuzz, Right-click the little gray thing at the left of it and choose "Remove from Panel".
[12:48] <ba5e> Dev05: okay one second
[12:48] <blinker> i'd probably remember that, so no
[12:48] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform, ba5e: Unfortunately I do not have any more ideas.
[12:48] <ThrashJazzAssass> I can play all audio formats except from WAV, can anyone help?
[12:48] <dink_> help-the-noob: what version of ubuntu are you running. If you are having mp3 issues and you are on dapper drake easy unbuntu fixes that
[12:48] <dink_> thrashjazzassass: do you have the wav codec downloaded
[12:48] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform, ba5e: you need internet to work, first of all. You need the appropriate drivers that will make your CD and/or internet work. That's the main task that really needs to get done.
[12:49] <ThrashJazzAssass> what's it called?
[12:49] <dr_willis> Heh - proberly the only thing easyubuntu fix's - it dident seem todo too good for me last i tried it.
[12:49] <Dimar> Could someone answer me a question about this operating system?
[12:49] <erUSUL> !easyubuntu
[12:49] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:49] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i have bad luck with getting NICs to work
[12:49] <phuzz> Dev05: no, like all the icons by my clock are gone (gaim,listen,etc) I know the processes are running and the proporties dont have hid/unhide (ive googled cant find it, but i know its something stupid) :)
[12:49] <dr_willis> Dimar,  and the Q is?
[12:49] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i have a usb >ethernet cord thing, and the windows drivers to make it work
[12:49] <dink_> @wav question: di an apt-cache search for wav codec
[12:49] <Dimar> I use a Sprint Connection card with Windoze and I travel alot so I also use a wifi card any ideas if this OS might support it?
[12:49] <dink_> something should come up
[12:49] <yairgo`> anyone know what "[   25.547056]  Kernel panic - not syncing: Machine check" means?  it happens when i try to run the alternate cd
[12:49] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: well, won't ndiswrapper do the trick?
[12:50] <dink_> dimar: you may have better luck with mepis
[12:50] <Dev05> phuzz, Right-click your Panel and choose "Add to Panel..."
[12:50] <Seveas> yairgo`, it means the system does a boo-boo
[12:50] <Seveas> check the md5sum of the iso
[12:50] <Dimar> Hmm...
[12:50] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: BRB
[12:50] <ThrashJazzAssass> shouldn't WAV files play by default?
[12:50] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: for the usb>ethernet thing? i cant get to the point to make it try
[12:50] <dr_willis> Dimar,  that is proberly somthing ya will hae to google about the sprint stuff.. its soo new - i doubt it.. as for the wireless. ya need to see what wireless card/chipset ya got and  research it.. (or try some live cd's_)
[12:50] <Dev05> phuzz, Search there what you need.
[12:50] <Dimar> Wifi card is the evil dreaded Broadcomm chipset
[12:50] <erUSUL> ThrashJazzAssass: yes. try 'aplay file.wav'
[12:51] <Dimar> Both the internal and the cool long distance antenna
[12:51] <yairgo`> Seveas how do i do such a thing when all i have running is windows?
[12:51] <Dimar> Thats what Knoppix bummed me out.
[12:51] <Seveas> !iso
[12:51] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:51] <Dimar> Tried myself to write drivers for it but it was a dismul failure
[12:51] <Seveas> yairgo`, last url in ubotus message
[12:51] <erUSUL> yairgo`: there are md5sum binaries for windows
[12:51] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: is it possible to copy over a pre-created install from a normal computer to the hard drive?
[12:51] <dr_willis> Dimar,  with the latest and niftyiest stuff  a lot of times it takes linux a few months to catch up.
[12:51] <yairgo`> !iso
[12:51] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:51] <Dimar> I just know that the Sprint card works in Mac, so I was hoping maybe it would on this OS
[12:52] <dink_> dimar: it may what does google say
[12:52] <dr_willis> Dimar,  if the company made official drivers or released specs.... but who knows with sprint.
 thanks for the help but its like the tray icons for programs. so you can close them or minimize to tray.... the tray icons are gone.
[12:52] <pezz> lo, anyone with a sagem fast 800 modem?
[12:52] <Dimar> I'd love to ditch Windoze for everything but my games, lol
[12:52] <mistform> hackmaster: it's always possible to overwrite something on a hard drive
[12:52] <HackMaster> mistform, what do you mean?
[12:52] <dr_willis> Games are for the weak!
[12:52] <dr_willis> :P
[12:52] <erUSUL> Dimar: support for broadcom cards entered the kernel recently. you can build your own kernel to support the card
[12:52] <Dimar> I was thinking about putting it on a Sandisc would make the OS put right up :P
[12:52] <skitzomike> does anyone know why nessus would give me a segmentation fault every time click scan
[12:52] <pezz> play quake Dimar ;p
[12:52] <Dimar> Sweet!
[12:52] <Seveas> erUSUL, dapper already supports them
[12:53] <pezz> thats all u nedd :)
[12:53] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: get a second HD plugged up with a standard Ubuntu install, and run dd on it
[12:53] <Winball> quake3 crashes after 10 min. Someone known with this issue?
[12:53] <Dimar> Didn't know that. I've been busy developing 3 sites.
[12:53] <Dev05> phuzz, Is the "Notification Area" applet in your Panel?
[12:53] <HackMaster> mistform, could i put the disk into another computer, run the install on that computer, then move the hard drive back?
[12:53] <BuntyBounty> Anyone tried Flash9 / Firefox with Wine?   works great for me, but I don't get sound
[12:53] <Dimar> I do play quake Pezz. but my empire earth doesn't run on anything other then the evil  mickeysoft lol
[12:53] <erUSUL> Seveas: ooouch! i asumed that it does not becouse people still has problems with them...
[12:53] <HackMaster> mistform, yea, that works. will it re-detect the system properities?
[12:54] <cpk2> Dimar: have you tried wine or cedega?
[12:54] <Seveas> erUSUL, the problem is that it requires people to download firmware
[12:54] <Seveas> so it supports them, but it's not an OOTB experience
 no, and i think thats what i need to google. thanks i didnt know what to call it. i think i found something on it
[12:54] <pezz> anyone has a sagem fast800 modem here? :<
[12:55] <Dimar> Tried Wine hadn't heard of Cedega
[12:55] <erUSUL> Seveas: all i can say is... buy a ralink 2500 pci works like a charm in all kernels i used... and is cheap (conceptronic) ;)
[12:55] <BuntyBounty> Cedega is WineX ( transgaming.com )
[12:55] <facugaich> pezz: is that one an USB, used for DSL?
[12:55] <Dimar> I just decided to try my hand again at something other then webservers when I saw the story about the OS on digg
[12:55] <cpk2> cedega is supposed to cost like 5 dollars or something but focuses pretty much just on games
[12:55] <ba5e> Dev05: I have no idea!
[12:55] <Dev05> phuzz, OK... If I were you, I'd restart the PC and the programs.
 sh!t that got it thanks mate
[12:55] <cpk2> and i think most people dont pay for it
[12:55] <minerale> Could anyone help me with this, a certain flash video always makes my firefox crash... I'm not sure it it's my fault
[12:55] <Dimar> 5 dollars to tell Bill Gates to die? I'm for it
[12:55] <mistform> !xchat
[12:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about xchat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:55] <Dimar> lol
[12:55] <BuntyBounty> cp2k: there is still a opensource free version of cedega
[12:55] <HackMaster> mistform, yea, that works. will it re-detect the system properties ?
[12:56] <pezz> usb facugaich
[12:56] <Dev05> phuzz, You're welcome!
[12:56] <mistform> yeah
[12:56] <len> !postgre
[12:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about postgre - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:56] <yairgo`> how can the download be wrong?
[12:56] <len> !postgres
[12:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about postgres - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:56] <Dev05> ba5e, It mounted just fine with Ubuntu, I don't know...
[12:56] <pezz> facugaich dsl of course
[12:56] <yairgo`> the md5sum did not work, but i downloaded it from the site?
[12:56] <Winball> What's temp3 in 'sensors' ?
[12:57] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i have one more question, which distro should i install?
[12:57] <Dev05> ba5e, And the volumes also mount on SuSE.
[12:57] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: its a very old computer, 96 meg of ram
[12:57] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: Xubuntu
[12:57] <facugaich> pezz: are you trying to make t work?
[12:57] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: My 64 MB RAM laptop runs it beautifully
[12:57] <dr_willis> Winball,  depends on your  Motherboard.
[12:57] <pezz> facugaich unfortunaly.. ye
[12:57] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: It also has all the Ubuntu goodness in it!
[12:57] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: i use gnome, will i be able to figure it out?
[12:58] <facugaich> pezz: I have 'ueagle-atm' drivers, and I think they also worked for those kind of modems, not sure. Have you tried googling?
[12:58] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: sudo apt-get install gdm
[12:58] <javaJake> :)
[12:58] <tengil> where is the info on the gateway being used?
[12:58] <cowmilk> 	can i remove the hard drive from one box and transplant it to my other box?
[12:58] <javaJake> Easy as pie
[12:58] <pezz> facugaich yup of course, even installed them
[12:58] <cowmilk> one box is PII. Other one is PIII.
[12:58] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: will that still move quite fast?
[12:58] <dr_willis> cowmilk,  ive dont it befor.. with some good success... and a few annoying problems. :P
[12:58] <mistform> hackmaster: I know hardware, software is my weak side ;)
[12:58] <abo> anyone knows a program that shows graphically the usage of my disk, I think there is one for KDE
[12:58] <pezz> facugaich but then i couldn't get further, and the modem remains undected it seems
[12:59] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: its just gonna play music and stuff from amaroK
[12:59] <Winball> dr_willis So I guess it's gfxcard since it's around 70'c
[12:59] <dr_willis> abo,  theres several disk monitors out.. kde has one that does nice pie type charts.
[12:59] <dr_willis> abo,  but i forget its name
[12:59] <cowmilk> dr_willis: how can i do it in such a way as to avoid those problems?
[12:59] <facugaich> pezz: I can tell you what I did with mine... lemme remember
[12:59] <dr_willis> cowmilk,  get lucky
[12:59] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: is amarok a good media player/manager?
[12:59] <yairgo`> since the md5checksum doesnt work on the desktop or alternate cd's that i downloaded from the website, what do i do?
[12:59] <pezz> facugaich: ok
[12:59] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: mmm, dunno
[12:59] <dr_willis> cowmilk,  if the mb's got identical chipsets -  was my problem ages ago.
[12:59] <HackMaster> i like it because it has a central MySQL database
[12:59] <mistform> never used amarok
[12:59] <javaJake> HackMaster, mistform: never done that sortathing
[01:00] <javaJake> Bye everyone
[01:00] <dr_willis> cowmilk,  one was a differnt chipset - so a module dident get loaded right.. had to fix it manually.  then ya got the Other cards that may need reconfigured
[01:00] <ailean> someone name a fave general system monitor with temperatures etc please
[01:00] <pezz> facugaich: answer in pm plz
[01:00] <HackMaster> mistform, javajake: do you guys play music?
[01:00] <Dev05> HackMaster, Yes, it is.
[01:00] <mistform> I do, alot
[01:00] <mistform> but am yet to on Linux :P
[01:00] <len> javaJake or anyone: I got a usb sound system from phillips (mcm595) and my linux detects it as a sound device. But it doesnt work. Do u have any Ideia what it migth be?
[01:00] <HackMaster> Dev05, you like amarok?
[01:01] <Dev05> HackMaster, If you want to play doesn't matter what, get yourslef MPlayer, otherwise, amaroK is great.
[01:01] <minerale> anyone know the difference between xv, x11, gl, gl2 in mplayers 'video out' codec... im not sure what to choose
[01:01] <cpk2> ailean: i like gkrellm
[01:01] <HackMaster> dev05, i have 34GB of music, and i need a good front end to manage it
[01:01] <Dev05> HackMaster, Yeah, go with amaroK. No doubt.
[01:01] <HackMaster> dev05, awesome. thanks
[01:02] <devhen> HackMaster, you might also try Rythmbox or Banshee
[01:02] <Dev05> HackMaster, devhen, Yeah, Banshee is nice too but it's still in a very early stage.
[01:02] <yairgo`> since the md5checksum doesnt work on the desktop or alternate cd's that i downloaded from the website, what do i do?
[01:02] <HackMaster> tried Rythmbox, and i dont think it had a good management features
[01:02] <cowmilk> can i do the transplanting of the harddrive when I've got some stuff on it, or should i do it when it's got nothing?
[01:02] <ailean> ty cpk2
[01:02] <abo> dr_willis, kdirstat, no?
[01:03] <facugaich> pezz: you mean a pm through IRC ? or ubuntu forums maybe?
[01:03] <pezz> facugaich u can see my pms?
[01:03] <dr_willis> abo,  that sounds famuler
[01:03] <help-the-n00b> can I apt-get VLC?
[01:03] <shawnr_> HackMaster, amarok would be the best but you need kde libs. Maybe Quod Libet?
[01:03] <dr_willis> help-the-n00b,  yes.
[01:03] <gr33npho3nix> hmmm it looks like i had apm and not acpi
[01:03] <pezz> no irc :)
[01:03] <facugaich> pezz: no, are you registered?
[01:03] <help-the-n00b> yay!
[01:03] <pezz> not yet !
[01:03] <shawnr_> help-the-n00b, apt-get install vlc
[01:03] <dr_willis> !info kdirstat
[01:03] <ubotu> kdirstat: graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.4.4-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 267 kB, installed size 872 kB
[01:03] <gr33npho3nix> which would explain why my power button doesn't do crap
[01:03] <HackMaster> i have the KDE libs installed and everything
[01:03] <help-the-n00b> sudo?
[01:03] <pezz> first time here
[01:03] <shawnr_> help-the-n00b, yup
[01:03] <facugaich> pezz: /msg nickserv help register
[01:03] <help-the-n00b> lol
[01:03] <pezz> ty
[01:03] <HackMaster> it works great, but i was just wondering if there was a gnome version
[01:03] <help-the-n00b> frgot!
[01:04] <shawnr_> Hackma, no amarok is kde
[01:04] <HackMaster> i know
[01:04] <cpk2> ailean: provided you have the right modules loaded gkrellm should display pretty much anything you could want
[01:04] <chris86wm> after installing keytouch, I lost the volume gui. is there anyway to get that back?
[01:04] <HackMaster> thats why i was leary of using it
[01:04] <shawnr_> HackMaster, try quod libet, or maybe bmpx
[01:04] <Dev05> HackMaster, Banshee is GTK# based.
[01:04] <tja> can anyone help me with getting sound to work on a thinkpad x21? apparently I need to disable ACPI first but it doesnt seem to work!?
[01:05] <HackMaster> banshee seems very similar to rythmbox
[01:05] <shawnr_> HackMaster, bmpx has an awsome library function but its still early devel and not avail in the ubuntu repositories
[01:05] <HackMaster> well, i cant ever seem to install anything thats not in the repositories
[01:06] <abo> realplayer can play all my rmm files, how can I play them with totem ?
[01:06] <blinker> ooh ooh. I've got a good question - where the hell is the option to turn touchpad mouseclicking off? =p
[01:06] <SGL> Is there a site where you can find a repository for a certain package??? I am looking for openssl-devel
[01:06] <shawnr_> HackMaster, you can just add the bmpx repositories to your sources list
[01:06] <HackMaster> hell, i tried to get my Quickcam Orbit to use the pan-tilt system, but i cant get it to work
[01:06] <HackMaster> i will look it up
[01:06] <erUSUL> SGL: is libssl-deve
[01:06] <Dev05> ba5e, So, no idea then???
[01:06] <shawnr_> HackMaster, http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/BMP:_About
[01:06] <Gun_Smoke> Still having trouble with icon theme:   I following the instructions from http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q4.  I tried the doing it through terminal and failed. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19341 .  And I don't understand the Archive Manager method.  I could not locate the theme folder. ?
[01:07] <SGL> erUSUL: thanks. I'll look for that one instead
[01:07] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke, you don't un archive theme files
[01:07] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke, you just drag them into the list with the other themes
[01:07] <ailean> cpk2, i can't get it to display my CPU temp
[01:07] <NsOmNiAc> anyone out there seen an install for Englightenment .17
[01:07] <ailean> cpk2, i had some probs with that today (temps of above 100C)
[01:08] <Gun_Smoke> shawnr_:  Even icon themes?
[01:08] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke, yes
[01:08] <ailean> NsOmNiAc, why do you want that?
[01:08] <SGL> erUSUL: nothing found!
[01:08] <NsOmNiAc> I ilke E
[01:08] <NsOmNiAc> err like even
[01:08] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke, prefs>themes>theme details> icons tab
[01:08] <ailean> NsOmNiAc, I could never work it
[01:08] <HackMaster> anyone know how to get my Quickcam Orbit to use the pan-tilt system?
[01:08] <Gun_Smoke> shawnr_:  Thanks, check it out.
[01:08] <Phenax> ailean: Make sure you have the correct hardware monitoring support, and some CPU's can live with temperatures over 100c... maybe make sure it's not the real temp?
[01:08] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke,  drag the tar into that list to install
[01:08] <NsOmNiAc> I haven't tried .17 but I love .16
[01:09] <Phenax> .17 is good but the CVS is almost always unstable
[01:09] <ailean> Phenax, not any more no :) around 50C now :)
[01:09] <Phenax> And there's no stable releases so you have to grab it out of the CVS
[01:09] <majestikm> Can somebody help me with my lilo.conf?  I'm tri-booting and need it to boot both ubuntu and windows.
[01:09] <NsOmNiAc> it looks very pretty
[01:09] <ailean> Phenax, it was shutting off at 110C though.  that's hot!
[01:09] <SGL> erUSUL: I can't find that
[01:09] <Phenax> ailean: Yeah, I suggest you get some Artic Silver 5 thermal grease and a new heatsink, lol.
[01:09] <Phenax> ailean: Mine generally stays under 60c
[01:10] <Phenax> A64 3500+ OC'd to 3.0ghz, running on an air heatsink
[01:10] <ailean> Phenax, no, i removed the carpet of vacuum crap sitting on the heatsink and it was fine! :)
[01:10] <Gun_Smoke> shawnr_:  Thanks, you rock.. I have actually wasted the better part of a week figuring this out.. I need to learn a lot!
[01:10] <Phenax> rofl
[01:10] <robertj> Any thermal paste is pretty good if its properly applied
[01:10] <mistform> phenax: is it a stock HS?
[01:10] <shawnr_> Gun_Smoke, we all start somewhere
[01:10] <Gun_Smoke> lol
[01:10] <ailean> Phenax, i'm very wary of going near the CPU and I shouldn be
[01:10] <Phenax> mistform: No, it's a Scythe heatsink (Not exact model)
[01:10] <ailean> i nearly killed it
[01:10] <Phenax> mistform: Cost me $40 or so
[01:11] <robertj> Most small shops will comp you a tube of a name brand sampler if you buy something else though, and those come in single-use plungers that are very convenient
[01:11] <Phenax> I can
[01:11] <Winball> I have like 250 GB of unused, not partitioned space left. How can I fill my linuxpartition?
[01:11] <Phenax> robertj: I actually noticed 4c off the load temps and about nothing off the idle temps with AS5, totally worth $5
[01:11] <HackMaster> anyone know how to get my Quickcam Orbit to use the pan-tilt system?
[01:11] <Phenax> $5 and you can use it about 5 times. I let my buddy use it and there's still a good amount left.
[01:11] <robertj> Phenax: I buy low-end anually so I don't have heat problems
[01:12] <mistform> phenax: I always go with Thermaltake or Zalman
[01:12] <Intangir> badass i got it working
[01:12] <robertj> They will usually give you Thermaltake
[01:12] <rodietze> how to install Aptana on UBuntuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ? :S
[01:12] <robertj> evreybody has it on hand
[01:12] <Intangir> i had to use vnc4server
[01:12] <Intangir> and use a securitytypes=none option ;)
[01:12] <Intangir> later
[01:12] <ailean> it's fairly normal to own this thermal paste then? :)
[01:12] <ailean> maybe i should get some
[01:12] <rodietze> tried everything since the swt till the export mozilla five home ..
[01:13] <Winball> CPU Temp:    +22C with zalman cnps9500led
[01:13] <Gorbulas|iBook> 22C?
[01:13] <Phenax> CPU Temp:  +36.5 C  (high = +45.0 C, hyst = +40.0 C)
[01:13] <ailean> that's cooler than this room!
[01:14] <ailean> and i live in Scotland
[01:14] <ttyfscker> hrm
[01:14] <Phenax> Yeah, same here.
[01:14] <Gorbulas|iBook> that's cooler than the ambient temperature has been here
[01:14] <ttyfscker> does mrproper have relation to mr clean?
[01:14] <Phenax> My CPU usually idles around 35-37c and loads around 48c
[01:14] <Gorbulas|iBook> maybe ey has two cpus
[01:14] <Gorbulas|iBook> and ey only uses one
[01:14] <ttyfscker> i read that Meister Proper in german was the same thing as mr. clean
[01:14] <ttyfscker> im just curious where that dang mrproper comes from..
[01:15] <Phenax> My CPU fan is plugged into a Molex, no RPM monitor lol
[01:15] <HackMaster> anyone know how to get my Quickcam Orbit to use the pan-tilt system?
[01:15] <Phenax> I rigged in a much more robust fan that used molex, should buy an adapter.
[01:15] <mickskyvitch> I have a usb hard drive that I want to format to FAT32 from ubuntu, how can I do this ?
[01:16] <Gorbulas|iBook> mickskyvitch: I think Linux calls if vfat
[01:16] <erUSUL> mickskyvitch: with gparted
[01:16] <Phenax> mkfs.vfat /dev/whatever
[01:16] <mickskyvitch> gpaRTED wont let me
[01:16] <Phenax> Providing you have dos utilities
[01:16] <mickskyvitch> erUSUL it is ntfs now
[01:16] <Phenax> dosfstools I think
[01:17] <Phenax> mickskyvitch: FAT32 can be read and written by Linux and Windows
[01:17] <Phenax> making it the ideal OS to have portable storage as
[01:17] <Gorbulas|iBook> so can ntfs if you do it right
[01:17] <ailean> no
[01:17] <mickskyvitch> yes but the drive is ntfs right now Phenax
[01:17] <ailean> too risky
[01:17] <Phenax> mickskyvitch: mkfs.vfat /dev/location SHOULD do it.
[01:17] <devhen> dont try to write to an NTFS disk in linux
[01:18] <shawnr_> best to format to fat32
[01:18] <devhen> yes
[01:18] <Phenax> devhen: With ntfs-3g you can get full read/write but you need a kernel module
[01:18] <Gorbulas|iBook> I'm going to be writing to ntfs disks tomorrow
[01:18] <Gorbulas|iBook> stupid windows virus
[01:18] <erUSUL> mickskyvitch: so?
[01:18] <devhen> Phenax, thx ill look into that.
[01:18] <Phenax> mickskyvitch: mkfs.vfat will erase EVERYTHING on it, so be warned
[01:19] <mickskyvitch> not getting naywhere here
[01:19] <Gorbulas|iBook> well, it won't "erase"
[01:19] <Gorbulas|iBook> it will just make it harder to find
[01:19] <mickskyvitch> I tried and it said contains mounted drive
[01:19] <Gorbulas|iBook> unmount it then
[01:19] <Phenax> umount /dev/location
[01:19] <Gorbulas|iBook> check the output of the mount command
[01:19] <Centaur5> Would the correct syntax for creating a soft link from a script in /etc/init.d to /etc/rc2.d/S12xorg_conf be sudo ln -sT /etc/init.d/xorg_conf /etc/rc2.d/S12xorg_conf?
[01:19] <Gorbulas|iBook> `mount`
[01:20] <Frankenstein> hi, i found ndiswrapper along with a GUI frontend to use it... i choose to use my windows driver as it asked and it now says it is there but i cant get the wireless usb adapter to show in the networking config... what could i do
[01:20] <kon> use module-assistant, load ndiswrapper. Everything will work
[01:20] <chris86wm> the multimedia keys on my laptop dont seem to work properly. is there any way of getting them to work without using keytouch?
[01:20] <Dev05> Frankenstein, Which GUI did you get?
[01:20] <Frankenstein> Dev05: i used ndisgtk
[01:20] <shawnr_> chris86wm, which laptop
[01:21] <Frankenstein> im running dapper too
[01:21] <chris86wm> shawnr_, inspiron 6000
[01:21] <chris86wm> shawnr_, keytouch fixes the problem, but it hijacks the vol up, vol down gui
[01:21] <Gorbulas|iBook> use the source! lol
[01:22] <shawnr_> chris86wm, try this
[01:22] <chris86wm> k
[01:22] <dnkidjit> chris86wm: i got my multimedia keys working using lineakd
[01:22] <shawnr_> chris86wm, prefs>keyboard>layouts>keyboard model [...] > look for Dell Inspiron 6xxx/8xxx
[01:23] <Cainus> hey... anyone know how I can do "apt-get install irssi"?  it keeps telling me it can't find it...
[01:23] <Frankenstein> Cainus: sudo apt-cache search irssi
[01:24] <erUSUL> !sources > Cainus
[01:24] <chris86wm> shawnr_ i dont see my laptop listed
[01:24] <tengil> i want to start a program in a screen at bootup and i do this with screen -dmS blipp /home/krasse/script.sh. this gives me a screen. however when ctrl+c to kill the program i instead kill the screen. If i manually start a screen and then start script.sh and then hit ctrl+c it does exist the program. anyone  how i can get this to work in my automatically started screen as well?
[01:24] <Cainus> hmm yeah... it doesn't show up in apt-cache search
[01:24] <chris86wm> shawnr_ there is a "dell" though
[01:24] <kon> tengil, what about your modules?
[01:24] <tengil> kon: modules?
[01:25] <shawnr_> chris86wm, keep looking its in my list
[01:25] <demon01> I bought a pocketPC dell axim x51 and I don't know how to sync it with my ubuntu 6.06 machine can anyone help me?
[01:25] <erUSUL> tengil: with screen you mean gnu screen the program? use a .screenrc
[01:25] <chris86wm> shawnr_ sry, its under Laptop/Notebook :P
[01:26] <tengil> erUSUL: what do i need to put in .screenrc?
[01:26] <erUSUL> tengil: i will upload mine to pastebin.ca wait a minute
[01:26] <dr_willis> man screen :)
[01:26] <tengil> erUSUL: thanks alot
[01:26] <chris86wm> shawnr_, just pick U.S. English?
[01:26] <mickskyvitch> thanks all usb drive now vFAT  huurah
[01:27] <tengil> dr_willis: i have read man screen for quite a while to come up with that screen command that starts it all at bootup
[01:27] <erUSUL> tengil: http://pastebin.ca/109286
[01:27] <tengil> i just dont see why its different to manually start the screen and then hit ctrl+c then it is to automatically start a screen and detach it at bootup
[01:27] <tengil> erUSUL: cool thanks
[01:28] <dr_willis> tengil,  ive seen it mentioned on some screen tutorials and so forth.. i had it set where rtorrent would run.
[01:28] <tengil> dr_willis: ah and you messed around with the .screenrc first?
[01:28] <Frankenstein> ok, i just used module-assistant and intalled the ndiswrapper, i installed the windows driver using that gui frontend and still nothing works, it doesnt show up in the list
[01:29] <chris86wm> shawnr_, alright, I set it up but it doesnt seem to have worked
[01:29] <shawnr_> chris86wm, try restarting x
[01:29] <dr_willis> tengil,  i googled for tutorials first. :P and printed some out.. and read about it.. heh
[01:30] <tengil> dr_willis: ok
[01:30] <dr_willis> whats sad - is there are not a lot of good screen tutorials..
[01:30] <chris86wm> shawnr_, I love you man!
[01:30] <dr_willis> they all seem to cover the 'basics' but skimp on the more powerful features
[01:30] <shawnr_> chris86wm, work?
[01:30] <chris86wm> shawnr_, thanks soo much
[01:30] <chris86wm> shawnr_, works perfectly
[01:31] <shawnr_> chris86wm, good 4 you. np
[01:32] <tengil> erUSUL: oops i never seen it opening several screens in one window before like this one looks like
[01:32] <tengil> how do i switch between them?
[01:32] <dr_willis> tengil,  thats always part of the tutorials that get skipped. :P
[01:32] <dr_willis> the multi windows feature
[01:32] <dr_willis> 'twin' is an interesting alternative to screen also
[01:32] <erUSUL> tengil: thats the purpose of screen have multiple windows or screens... is Crtl+a <number>
[01:33] <Farhad> I installed realPlayer 10 from real.com/linux , now ,  how I can add realplayer command to the shell?
[01:33] <dr_willis> tengil, http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen   seems to have some good screen tips
[01:34] <shawnr_> farh, try "real" and "realplay"
[01:34] <erUSUL> Farhad: if you instaled it correctly it shoulb be in your path already
[01:34] <tengil> ok im gonna mess around a little and see if it wanna load my script like this
[01:34] <dr_willis> wow - thats the best screen tutoria site ive seen.. severa example .screenrcs
[01:35] <tengil> dr_willis: thanks ill bookmark that one
[01:35] <Farhad> that is works, erUSUL , i installed that with ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[01:35] <dr_willis> tengil,  also  http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/screen/screen_toc.html    :)
[01:35] <Farhad> and set its path : /usr/local/realPlayer
[01:35] <mistform> what's the most updates you've had at once?
[01:35] <mistform> I just got 132... gonna take 19 minutes at 164kb/s
[01:36] <Farhad> erUSUL, how can I add a executable file to path
[01:37] <dr_willis> !path
[01:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about path - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:38] <erUSUL> Farhad: do a link to the exec in /usr/local/bin 'sudo ln -s /usr/local/real.../exec /usr/local/bin/exec'
[01:38] <tengil> unfortunately starting my ./script.rc within the .bashrc file didnt help either. if i have that screen open and hit ctrl+c it closes that screen instead of the program. if i however manually open an extra screen while having the screen  open and start script.sh ctrl+c will close my program in script.sh instead of the scree....
[01:40] <blinker> can someone tell me where to find settings for laptop touchpads? I can't seem to find the option that turns off touchpad 'clicking'
[01:40] <dr_willis> kde put a little synaptic  touchpad icon in my kicker panel for me. :P
[01:41] <dr_willis> which suprised me
[01:41] <Farhad> erUSUL, thnx
[01:43] <demon01> anyone knows something about pocketpc and ubuntu?
[01:45] <lmosher> What does it mean when adept tells me "break" when I request an install? How do I fix this?
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: My first guess would be a problem with your sources list
[01:46] <help-the-n00b> how do i listen to feeds w/ vlc?
[01:47] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow: Well I was told to add some debs.. I'm trying to install the latest XGL...
[01:47] <help-the-n00b> ?
[01:47] <pihl> When I try to install ubuntu I choose the first alternative when to partition the harddrive (resize master) and slides it to 27.7 gb. I press forward and it says "Failed to create enough space for installation"
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: What debs
[01:48] <asterus> it occurs with me too with fedora in same case
[01:48] <pihl> someone that knows what the problem is or know a way around?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: How many megs are you giving ubuntu
[01:48] <asterus> i dicovered that was my CD - crashd...
[01:48] <pihl> about 30
[01:48] <pihl> gv
[01:48] <pihl> gb*
[01:48] <tengil> dr_willis: are you actually sure i can get a program start in a screen automatically but not killing the screen when doing ctrl+c?
[01:49] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow: "quinn's" debs for xgl
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: What is the format of that partition and what is the other OS
[01:49] <pihl> ntfs windows xp
 if y'a wanna run a program in background uses ctrl+z; if wanna return to it uses the command "fg"
[01:49] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow: brb i found an updated guide... w/ different debs and whatnot. I'll try that firxt then come back if I run into issues. ty
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: there is a reason they call it experimental bleeding edge.
[01:50] <help-the-n00b> ?
[01:50] <goonies> is there anyway to extract an exe file on nix?
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:50] <tengil> asterus: no i want to be able to kill the program within a screen without killing the screen
[01:50] <help-the-n00b> how do i listen to feeds w/ vlc?
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: How much free space do you have in XP.
[01:51] <pihl> 2 secs
[01:51] <pihl> 62 gb free space out of 93gb
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: so it is refusing to overwrite your xp
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> select a smaller partition sive
[01:52] <pihl> k
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> IT just saved your you know what..
[01:52] <pihl> oh :P
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> See what I am saying
[01:53] <Linkiboy> I need help on installation... kind of
[01:53] <mcphail> goonies: by extract, you mean unzip?
[01:53] <pihl> I'm a complete noob when it comes to harddrives, partition etc.
[01:53] <ShadowLurker> i gotz a question
[01:53] <ShadowLurker> nobody in #gaim will help
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: You are in the right place
[01:53] <ShadowLurker> mabe you guys no
[01:53] <pihl> :D
[01:53] <ShadowLurker> :-P
[01:53] <pihl> how do I select a smaller partition sive then? :P
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> pihl: yes 20
[01:54] <ShadowLurker> Okay, so, does anyone know where Gaim stores it's chat logs?
[01:54] <Linkiboy> Umm... on step 6 of installing... it syas it will delete all the partitions i have not selected...
[01:54] <ShadowLurker> nvm
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Always leave at least 10% free for XP (minimum)
[01:54] <Linkiboy> does this mean it will wipe my harddrive?
[01:54] <pihl> I tried with 9,1 gb - still the same error
[01:54] <asterus> i need help in configurating net for ubuntu. i need to configure my ethernet to work in 10 mbps without autonegotiate. i tried "ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 autoneg off" but in the it still not working with me. with command shall i use to know in what speed my ethernet is working?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: back out of that for a sec
[01:55] <Ronz> pihl, what problem are you having? just logged
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: what are your existing partitions and OS?
[01:55] <pihl> I get the error "Failed to create enough space for installation" when I try to partition
[01:55] <Linkiboy> partition1: recovery
[01:55] <Linkiboy> parttion2: windowsXP
[01:55] <Linkiboy> Partiton3: ext3
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Ronz: he was trying to resize an XP partition smaller than the data in it
[01:56] <Linkiboy> partiton4: swap
[01:56] <Linkiboy> ext3 is empty
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: Delete the ext3 and the swap...
[01:56] <Linkiboy> ok i have to write this down
[01:56] <Linkiboy> cause im on widnows
[01:57] <Linkiboy> my ubuntu internet will take forvever to conf
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: then go back a step and let the installer use all unallocated space
[01:57] <Ronz> pihl, if you can still boot into windows, i woulc reccomend using partition magic to resize your win partition. you can do that within windows, and you can also see where the data is...its a very nice tool. =)
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: Do you have PM8
[01:57] <Linkiboy> Since i dont know what that is.. probably not
[01:57] <Recks> How would I mount a drive when I try to access it it gives me the following error
[01:57] <Recks> error: device /dev/sdd5 is not removable
[01:57] <Recks> error: could not execute pmount
[01:57] <pihl> sure
[01:58] <Linkiboy> im new to linux...
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Ronz: PM8 is what I use.  Just not cheap..
[01:58] <pihl> (it's the laptop next to me I'm installing on, so I'll just stick around here with this one :P)
[01:58] <Linkiboy> What is PM8?
[01:58] <Recks> Partition Magic
[01:58] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow: I think the issues is I have some package 1.5 and it required 1.6, which probably isn't out for amd64 yet. How do i override a dependency?
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Partition Magic 8
[01:58] <Linkiboy> o
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> 8 or newer handles NTFS and ext3
[01:58] <Linkiboy> i Use gparted for partitioning
[01:58] <Ronz> Jack_Sparrow, *cough* torrent
[01:58] <Recks> So anyone with the mounting the drive problem
[01:58] <Recks> error: device /dev/sdd5 is not removable
[01:58] <Recks> error: could not execute pmount
[01:59] <pihl> partition magic is norton, right?
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:59] <Ronz> no pihl
[01:59] <Ronz> PM is...
[01:59] <Ronz> i forget, lol
[01:59] <Ronz> but its not symantec
[01:59] <pihl> wait
[01:59] <Linkiboy> alright, jack_sparrow, should I try to install again with your new tip?
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: what is the format of the drive you want to mount
[01:59] <tehuti> hey I'm trying to set up an ADSL connection with pppoeconf, but the "DSL" light goes out whenever I start pppoeconf and I get an ""sorry I scanned one interface but the access conentrator of your provider did not respond" error
[01:59] <asterus> PowerQuest Partition Magic...
[01:59] <piihl> I'm registered now
[01:59] <Ronz> powerquest, thats it!
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: yes..
[01:59] <Linkiboy> Alright...
[02:00] <Recks> rofl partition magic is symantec
[02:00] <Linkiboy> if i wipe my HD im blaming it on you
[02:00] <Linkiboy> :P
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> You will be fine
[02:01] <tehuti> does this mean my connection with my DSL provider isn't ready yet?
[02:02] <mickskyvitch> once again thank you for solving my problems
[02:02] <Recks> Can anyone help me figure out why my Hard Drive won't mount
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: what is the format of the drive you want to mount
[02:02] <Recks> NTFS
[02:02] <Recks> I can access it through the shell
[02:02] <tehuti> the "DSL" light on the modem just disappears whenever I run pppoeconf what's up with that?
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: use the diskmpounter script
[02:03] <tehuti> no connection with Windoze using the supplied EZ-connect CD
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Linkiboy: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[02:03] <Recks> but I wanna just drag and drop the files to my root drive or be able to use the files off of the drive itself
[02:03] <tehuti> either
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: Not recomended
[02:03] <Recks> lol why not?
[02:03] <Recks> lol
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: to write to ntfs
[02:03] <Recks> I don't want to write to it
[02:03] <Recks> just read from it
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Then use the script
[02:04] <Recks> okay
[02:04] <Recks> and do I just add this to a text file or?
[02:04] <Recks> nm...
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> go to that link, click on file save, save to desktop and follow the instructions
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> I'll stay here
[02:04] <tehuti> is this a problem with my software or a problem with the ADSL provider? anyone?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: If you do not want to see an icon for that dfrive on your desktop let me know and I will walk you through that
[02:05] <Recks> what do I save the file as?
[02:05] <Recks> cause it defaults to .htm
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: also, the script says you do not need to restart X but many people did need to restart X before the icons appeared
[02:06] <secleinteer> hey, does any1 know which out of gnome and kde takes less system resources?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: should be fine
[02:06] <skitzomike> does anyone know why nessus would give me a segmentation fault every time click scan
[02:06] <Recks> jkk
[02:06] <Recks> kk
[02:06] <JoshX> hello.. could it be that ubuntu 6.06-Server bugs with a software raid mirror setup?
[02:06] <shammy> I have all of my music moved onto another harddrive, but it's NTFS, how would I go about mounting it to access the music?
[02:06] <JoshX> i just tried installing it and it crashes on first boot
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: read the couple lines of help on that script
[02:07] <JoshX> stating: eval: 1: 8: not found
[02:07] <JoshX> mknod: hda : file exists
[02:07] <Roflsauce> Hi
[02:07] <battie> Hi
[02:08] <Roflsauce> Where can I get ubuntu commands? I'm a newb
[02:08] <secleinteer> does any1 know which out of gnome and kde takes less system resources?
[02:08] <Roflsauce> Just got it today
[02:08] <JoshX> and then mdadm: failed to open /dev/md? : no such file (4 times)
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Roflsauce: What commands?
[02:08] <JoshX> anyone have any idea?
[02:08] <Roflsauce> My friend told me something about "app get" or something
[02:08] <Roflsauce> Commands like that
[02:08] <shammy> how long does it take to update to dapper from breezy?
[02:08] <Roflsauce> To get lets say MSN Messenger, I'm  having trouble getting it
[02:08] <battie> Does anyone know where I can find a list of hardware compatible with Ubuntu.  I'm about to order parts for a new PC. Thanks!
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Roflsauce: yes, or synaptic...
[02:08] <Recks> I see the icon in my system though...
[02:09] <Roflsauce> Synaptic?
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> ?
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Roflsauce: system admin synaptic
[02:09] <Roflsauce> Oh ok,
[02:09] <Roflsauce> don't I gotta type in something?
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: Please explain?
[02:09] <Ronz> hey...ive got a 5.1 surround sound card, but cant get my back 2 speakers to work...any idea's?
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Roflsauce: click, click, click
[02:09] <Recks> I hjave the drive in my computer directory
[02:10] <Roflsauce> ok
[02:10] <Recks> Just can't access it
[02:10] <mcphail> Recks: your NTFS partition is mounted if you can access it via the shell
[02:10] <Recks> it says error: device /dev/sdd5 is not removable
[02:10] <Recks> error: could not execute pmount
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: did you run that script
[02:10] <Recks> not yet lol
[02:10] <Recks> just thought it odd I could see it before hand
[02:10] <Recks> lol
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:10] <sudomania4> how do I know if my cd player can play .ogg cds?
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: Jump to a terminal screen
[02:10] <Recks> kk
[02:11] <Recks> and just run it
[02:11] <Recks> gotcha ;-)
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> probably cd Desktop
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> then sudo bash diskmounter
[02:11] <battie> Oh, I found it in the wiki.  Silly me.
[02:11] <sun_> hi how do you get the email monitor on ion3?
[02:12] <Kenotic> Does any one know anything about maildrop?
[02:12] <dibblego> hello, I have a problem installing the nvidia driver described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1319914#post1319914
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: My only concern is the file type.
[02:12] <myv> hi, kind of a stupid question, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to extract a .rar with a password?  basically it gives me an error (Encrypted file:  CRC failed in /home/denny/Desktop/real_life_pics.rar (password incorrect ?)) but it doesn't give me a prompt to enter a password.
[02:12] <Recks> kk
[02:12] <Recks> lol
[02:12] <Recks> it's ntfs and just has media on it
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: FIrefox saved it
[02:13] <Recks> nothing that will try to re-write back to the drive
[02:13] <Recks> yea
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> fine
[02:13] <Recks> It ran still
[02:13] <Recks> as .htm
[02:13] <dibblego> myv, rar | grep password
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> fine
[02:13] <Daynah> Guy heys. :( It's me again. My computer doesn't want me to watch my stolen Doctor Who mpg files. VLC stops playing after 2 seconds and Totem wont rewind... and I watched about 20 minutes in and had a roomate inturrupt, so as we speak, I'm letting it go normal speed back to that point. You guys know what I should do?
[02:13] <myv> thanks alot dibblego
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> it wont let you write unless you accept that warning
[02:13] <Recks> and I can now access it
[02:13] <Recks> yea I don't need to lol
[02:13] <Recks> I said no
[02:13] <Recks> lol
[02:13] <dibblego> myv, actually better, unrar | grep password
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: restart X if you dont see icons on desktop
[02:13] <Recks> so do I need to run that everytime?
[02:13] <Recks> I got it
[02:14] <myv> I'll try that out.
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> No, you are done
[02:14] <Daynah> Myv, I looked at your name and thought, "Holy cow! Did I have that bad of a typo and named myself 'myv'?!"
[02:14] <brett_tolbert> hey guys
[02:14] <Recks> how would I make my cd-roms work, I have a dvd-rom that won't play the DVD in the drive atm...
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: you can toss the script
[02:14] <Recks> kk so it's forever mounted now?
[02:14] <dibblego> why does the nvidia driver cause a kernel panic? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1319914#post1319914
[02:14] <myv> lol
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: first guess is how you are trying to access it..
[02:14] <myv> Myv = short for Miyavi, sorry. >_>
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: You cant just double click on it
[02:14] <rexykik> dibblego, the nvidia driver or the nv driver?
[02:15] <dibblego> rexykik, nvidia (nv works fine)
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: forever mounted
[02:15] <Daynah> Myv, it was just funny that I'm sl blonde and stressed that I thought that.
[02:15] <rexykik> dibblego, we don't know. we can't read the code :(
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: To play a dvd you run a program that access the drive
[02:15] <JoshX> ah found it
[02:15] <Recks> kk
[02:15] <JoshX> the installer allows you to install on software raid
[02:15] <Recks> would Kaffeine do that?
[02:15] <dibblego> rexykik, so are you suggesting it is definitely the fault of the nvidia driver?
[02:15] <JoshX> only at boot the software raid subsystem is not started
[02:16] <JoshX> eg all raid devices are not available at boot time
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: I dont play dvd's so I really dont know.. (Sorry)
[02:16] <dr_willis> tengil, screen dosebnt respond to ctrl-c for me at all
[02:16] <Daynah> Hey boys and girls, do you have any suggestions as to help to fix my vlc... or my totem... or get around them and ignore the problem all together like I do with my boyfriend? Any of the above is fine with me?
[02:16] <rexykik> i'm suggesting it, but i don't think that analysis would be accurate
[02:16] <Recks> kk lol
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: are you in Jubuntu or Ubuntu
[02:16] <rexykik> I am currently running the nvidia driver without any problems in kubuntu
[02:16] <Recks> anyone know how to get a SATA RAID up and running :-X
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Kubuntu
[02:16] <Recks> Ubuntu
[02:16] <JoshX> anyone in here have any idea if this is a known bug?
[02:16] <pigmonkey> Can someone help me? I need to know how to do a Server install from the Dapper live cd.
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: My sata run fine
[02:16] <Recks> really
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: I did nothing special
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> oops
[02:16] <dibblego> rexykik, I was running it fine on exactly the same hardware on Breezy, but I forget which version of the driver
[02:17] <Recks> well I have two raptors set up in a RAID
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> NOT raid
[02:17] <brett_tolbert> i'm playing around with g++, i just tried to compile a "hello world" c++ file named practice.c++,  i typed the command like this: "c++ practice.c++ -o practice"  and it seems to compile fine but when i type "practice" i get "bash: practice: command not found"   WHY?  why isn't the file executing? what am i doing wrong?  :'(
[02:17] <sethk> pigmonkey, do install from install cd
[02:17] <JoshX> anyone???
[02:17] <dibblego> rexykik, my suspicion is libglx.so to be honest (I forget why though)
[02:17] <sethk> pigmonkey, that's why they call it install cd.  run live from the live cd.  that's why they call it live cd
[02:17] <Recks> ahh see lol
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: that will be interesting
[02:17] <Recks> not raid lol
[02:17] <Recks> yea =-/
[02:17] <Nameeater> brett: chmod +x practice then do ./practice
[02:17] <Recks> rofl
[02:17] <pigmonkey> I only have the live cd that comes from shipit.ubuntu
[02:17] <tengil> dr_willis: neither when you start a program automatically when screen starts?
[02:17] <pigmonkey> they didn't ship an install cd, sadly
[02:17] <brett_tolbert> ok i'll try it
[02:17] <brett_tolbert> thanks
[02:17] <Recks> SATA raid's are a pain in the ass to begin with
[02:17] <sethk> pigmonkey, download the install cd(s)
[02:17] <Recks> in linux it should be a stroke
[02:17] <Daynah> Yeah, I thought there was only one cd with DD ;)
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> pigmonkey: live will install also
[02:18] <pigmonkey> but will it install server? I don't want desktop
[02:18] <Recks> hmm I'll dig around on the nvidia site see if I can't dig up linux raid driver
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> pigmonkey: You would be best getting the alt cd
[02:18] <rexykik> dibblego, that is highly likely
[02:18] <rexykik> or at least it seems a lot of people have problems with it
[02:19] <Daynah> So does anyone know how to fix the VLC or Totem or should I come back later (after I'm fed and less grumpy :) )
[02:19] <dr_willis> tengil,  i made it start mc automaticially and it dont respind to ctrl-c
[02:19] <dibblego> rexykik, do you happen to know if the "nv" driver depends on libglx?
[02:19] <rexykik> if you check out forums you may be able to find someone with an available download for an old one
[02:19] <rexykik> i do not.
[02:19] <rexykik> you could join #nvidia and find out though
[02:19] <dibblego> ok cheers
[02:19] <rexykik> i need to go now though
[02:19] <brett_tolbert> alright nameeater!  that worked like a charm. great, thanks alot. i feel stupid. lets see, what did that do?  chmod +x  must have added "execute" to the file permissions for practice.c++  but what does the ./ before the filename do? just curious.
[02:20] <Daynah> thanks any way guys! I'll be on later to help with any of the easier questions on here that appear :)
[02:20] <tengil> dr_willis: ok well i think i give up on this. i want to be able to kill the program i started with ctrl+c looks right now like i have to manually start screen to do that without killing the screen anyways..
[02:20] <sethk> brett_tolbert, ./ means "here".  ./command  means run executable file command in the current directory
[02:20] <Nameeater> what he said ;)
[02:21] <dr_willis> tengil,  could be screen is grabbing the ctrl-c's and keeping them.
[02:21] <brett_tolbert> oh so it tells linux to look for the command to execute in the pwd instead of in the normal place. cool, i get it. i'm learning. lol thanks
[02:21] <Recks> ahh okay I think I got it lol
[02:21] <tengil> dr_willis: weird things is that it doesnt do it when i start screen manually and then start the program in the screen
[02:21] <sethk> brett_tolbert, you can if you like put "." in the PATH and avoid the ./, but it's generally better to not include . in your execution search path
[02:22] <tengil> only when starting the program automatically with the screen
[02:22] <blinker> does anyone know why ubuntu might have problems downloading package information over the net for things like repository updates/downloads? i'm obviously connected to the internet...
[02:22] <dr_willis> blinker,  servers have been having some issues lately
[02:22] <gnomefreak> blinker: us.archive.com?
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> blinker: what kind of problems
[02:22] <blinker> gnomefreak: whatever the default is...
[02:23] <gnomefreak> blinker: are you in the us?
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> blinker: Servers have been hammered...
[02:23] <blinker> gnomefreak: yeah
[02:23] <petduo> how can I zip files from the command line?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> blinker: open /etc/apt/sources.list and take the "us." out of the repos
[02:23] <WiseOdd> i feel kinda stupid, but i forgot how to alter the amount of reserved blocks in the partition... any1 know how to do that?
[02:23] <Recks> hmm can anyone suggest a program to play DVD's?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> petduo: gunzip or tar
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> xmms
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> totem
[02:24] <Jerr|sd> ok, so my windows partition is under an extended partition
[02:24] <Recks> thanks
[02:24] <Recks> lol
[02:24] <bayzider> i instaled windows on blank partion but when i turn on my computer i am not givein a choice of witch opertion system i want my computer just imeditaly boots into windows but ubuntu is also installed on a another partion how do i fix this
[02:24] <mistform> hey, what repositories do you guys use?
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks: np
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[02:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:24] <mistform> like, what non-ubuntu repositories?
[02:24] <dr_willis> bayzider,  you installed windows - after you installed ubuntu?
[02:24] <WiseOdd> !WisoOdd partition
[02:24] <sethk> bayzider, reinstall grub, and add windows to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about WisoOdd partition - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:25] <bayzider> how do i do that
[02:25] <shammy> what is the command to update breezy to dapper?
[02:25] <WiseOdd> !partition
[02:25] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:25] <Jerr|sd> bayzider: get your livecd and pop it in
[02:25] <Jenkens> i seem to be having a problem with gnu screen's backspace .. it accepts ^H, rather than ^? as normal.
[02:25] <Jenkens> has anyone else dealt with this
[02:25] <bayzider> im running on my live cd right now
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> bayzider: cool
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> bayzider: Any questions, just ask
[02:26] <bayzider> ? i just asked a question
[02:26] <Jerr|sd> bayzider: ok, now you just need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:26] <bayzider> how do i do that
[02:26] <Jerr|sd> uhh
[02:27] <WiseOdd> how do i change the amount of reserved blocks on a partition?
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bayzider: I would try the super gub repair disc
[02:27] <Jerr|sd> do you see your ubuntu installed system mounted?
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> People usually put windows on then Ubuntu
[02:27] <Jerr|sd> yeah
[02:27] <petduo> gnomefreak, i want to compress some files on a .zip one
[02:27] <bayzider> yeah well its compliated
[02:27] <bayzider> i installed ubuntu blindly not knowing how to dual boot
[02:27] <Jerr|sd> but I might have to go in the same situation if I can't get my problem fixed
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> or do a reinstall of xp and need to fix the grub menu
[02:28] <blinker> gnomefreak: its giving me permission errors and I was pretty convinced that i was logged on as admin account (i've only made 1 acct period, to my knowledge)
[02:28] <gnomefreak> petduo: man zip
[02:28] <bioticpro> !edgy
[02:28] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:28] <bayzider> then i got some hard ware that needed windows so i installed it on my blank partion
[02:28] <bayzider> ok how do i install grub
[02:28] <gnomefreak> blinker: sudo apt-get update gives you permission errros?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> bayzider: its installed by default
[02:28] <Recks> Okay when trying to play the DVD it says "
[02:28] <blinker> gnomefreak: no, trying to save the file after removing the "us."'s
[02:28] <Vermyndax> good evening everyone
[02:29] <Recks> no URl handler implemented for "dvd"
[02:29] <bayzider> but shouldent i be givin a choice as to witch os i want when i boot up
[02:29] <gnomefreak> blinker: when you open the file this is how gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:29] <Jerr|sd> I'm actually trying to get window's boot back
[02:29] <Jerr|sd> yes
[02:29] <Jerr|sd> I have it
[02:29] <Jerr|sd> but since the installer didn't see one, it doesn't bother
[02:29] <gnomefreak> blinker: or sudo nano /etc...... or kdesu kate /etc/....
[02:30] <gnomefreak> !grub > Jerr|sd
[02:30] <blinker> erm...this is day one for me so most of that didn't make a lot of sense, hehe.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Jerr|sd: read your pm to fix grub
[02:30] <WiseOdd> anyone know how to alter the amount of reserved blocks on a partition?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> blinker: are you on gnome?
[02:31] <Jerr|sd> gnomefreak: thats moot to me
[02:31] <gnomefreak> moot?
[02:31] <Jerr|sd> I'm in linux trying to get stupid Windows's boot thing to work
[02:31] <blinker> gnomefreak: i believe so. thats the ubuntu gui, yes?
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-file_galleries.php  Super Grub Repair
[02:31] <Jerr|sd> Grub isn't broken
[02:31] <gnomefreak> blinker: type in terminal gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:31] <sethk> Wiseguy, for ext2 and ext3, you can use tune2fs
[02:32] <Jerr|sd> The partition windows is on can't be booted
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: But you cant get into windows right
[02:32] <gnomefreak> Jerr|sd: you dont want ntblr to boot your system
[02:32] <WiseOdd> sethk: thx :)
[02:32] <blinker> k, be back w/results
[02:32] <Jerr|sd> its an extended partition
[02:32] <bayzider> so how do i fix this
[02:32] <maeraj> How to force the removal of a partially configured package?  I read the dpkg manual but no luck. :(
[02:33] <Jerr|sd> I know, its just that grub can't boot my windows because of boot file problems
[02:33] <Jerr|sd> it doesn't really see windows
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: you and bayzider are in similar situation
[02:33] <Jerr|sd> Jack_Sparrow: similar, but opposite
[02:33] <Jerr|sd> I have a problem with Windows
[02:33] <Jerr|sd> actually, my partition
[02:33] <blinker> gnomefreak: same results
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-file_galleries.php  Super Grub Repair just might make your XP bootable
[02:34] <mwe> bayzider: I think default just boots unless you press esc during the 3 second delay when you power on. you can change that though
[02:34] <maeraj> I'm in a situation where the configuration for a partially installed packaged failed.  I do not even want the package, but I cannot remove it.
[02:34] <blinker> cant even save as, seems its not giving me folder write access
[02:34] <gnomefreak> blinker: close the files (both) if they are both still open
[02:34] <blinker> nah, was just the one instance
[02:34] <roostishaw> is there a program that has a cli that does p2p/bittorrent?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> maeraj: you may need to finish installing it to properly remove it... just a guess.  One of these other guys may have a cli solution..
[02:35] <Jerr|sd> Jack_Sparrow: I don't see how, when the problem is not with grub but with windows loader
[02:35] <metalhedd> my hotkeys are seriously messed up, i think its a kubuntu thing but nobody there is any help.   the problem is that none of the multimedia keys that I set as shortcuts are doing anything... the one button that does work is MUTE and its not configured to do anything, it just sort of works on its own.
[02:35] <gnomefreak> blinker: type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:35] <maeraj> Jack_Sparrow: yes, that's what dpkg suggested, but it is unable to configure the package.  I have tried several times to complete the configuration
[02:35] <gnomefreak> blinker: it should prmpt you for a password
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: There are not many solutions to your problem, Windows dosent like being second fiddle
[02:36] <roostishaw> anyone, is there a program that has a cli that does p2p/bittorrent?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: Maybe you should ask in #Windows
[02:36] <Jerr|sd> I am (##windows)
[02:36] <maeraj> roostishaw: the original bittorrent client has a console interface optionally
[02:36] <XDX90> anyone here
[02:36] <blinker> ok that worked. i nav'd to the folder last time...prolly had something to do with it
[02:37] <kern_malloc> XDX90: nope
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> maeraj: have you changed your sources list?
[02:37] <blinker> thanks gnomefreak
[02:37] <kern_malloc> "folder"  therea re no folders in linux :)
[02:37] <XDX90> i just got ubuntu
[02:37] <JoshX> can anyone tell me what this is: http://www.townsville.nl/~joshx/crash.jpg and how do i fix it?
[02:37] <XDX90> im using xchat
[02:37] <mwe> XDX90: congrats
[02:37] <bimberi> welcome XDX90
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> XDX90: welcome
[02:37] <Jerr|sd> is it actually possible to *safely* turn an extended partition into a regular (primary) partition without data damage?
[02:37] <XDX90> thanks
[02:37] <maeraj> Jack_Sparrow: I am using only the official ubuntu sources.  This package was installed by the installer, which for some reason gave me a bigiron kernel which I don't want.  It depends on clvm, which will not remove itself because it did not install properly
[02:37] <gnomefreak> blinker: sudo apt-get update
[02:37] <JoshX> it is a fresh install where / is on a md raid1 device
[02:37] <XDX90> I cannot see a list of the users in this channel?
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerr|sd: No
[02:37] <gnomefreak> after you save it
[02:38] <MaxL> hey can someone help me install qjoypad.
[02:38] <Jerr|sd> damn
[02:38] <kern_malloc> XDX90: type /names #ubuntu
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> maeraj: what were you trying to install?
[02:38] <MaxL> when I get to make make it gives me an error
[02:38] <XDX90> oh cool
[02:38] <mwe> XDX90: odd. here it show to the right of the channel window
[02:38] <blinker> looks like its trying to connect to a lan ip
[02:38] <maeraj> Jack_Sparrow: I'm just trying to remove that kernel, but clvm depends on it.  I want to remove clvm
[02:39] <Jerr|sd> I really should look into getting new HDDs
[02:39] <XDX90> Man I'm a newb at linux
[02:39] <sally2> has anyone tried to install kismet on 6.06?
[02:39] <bimberi> XDX90: does it say "807 Users" somewhere in the window.  Try clicking there
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> maeraj: Sorry, not my area...
[02:39] <XDX90> Yes
[02:39] <maeraj> :)
[02:39] <maeraj> I'll be back
[02:39] <blinker> XDX90: hi! welcome to the club =p i'm right there with ya, lol
[02:39] <XDX90> ;d
[02:40] <kern_malloc> and then when you guys want a real distro, switch to gentoo
[02:40] <Zambezi> I need help from a really skilled person now. I can't make a folder i mnt without sudo. I know I'm not suposed to change the right in home, so what can I do?
[02:40] <Jerr|sd> kern_malloc: you didn't compile ducking yet
[02:40] <blinker> kern_malloc: I was thinking debian, actually
[02:40] <sethk> kern_malloc, right.  compile for days to get something that runs slower than ubuntu.
[02:40] <XDX90> Where could I get MSN Messenger? For linux
[02:41] <Jerr|sd> XDX90: amsn
[02:41] <kern_malloc> sethk: uhrm.... I was kind of kidding.. not trying to start a flame war.  But that comment is just wrong
[02:41] <XDX90> amsn?
[02:41] <sethk> kern_malloc, no, it is not.  I've tested, extensively.
[02:41] <kern_malloc> you tested wrong then
[02:41] <XDX90> oh i found it
[02:41] <XDX90> ty
[02:41] <kern_malloc> that or you don't know how to configure your system
[02:41] <Zambezi> XDX90, There's no MSN for Linux.
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Stop trolling
[02:41] <sethk> kern_malloc, no, I most certainly did not.  I do this for a living.
[02:41] <kern_malloc> sethk: as do I
[02:41] <Zambezi> XDX90, aMSN or Gain.
[02:41] <XDX90> yes
[02:41] <sethk> kern_malloc, now, with a lot of work, it is possible to get gentoo to run as fast.  If you make zero mistakes
[02:41] <XDX90> I'm downloading aMSN
[02:41] <Zambezi> XDX90, Gaim
[02:41] <bimberi> XDX90: Gaim (Applications -> Internet -> Gaim Internet Messenger) can be used for msn
[02:42] <XDX90> oh cool
[02:42] <kern_malloc> sethk: zero mistakes is what I make.
[02:42] <sethk> kern_malloc, however, that still makes it absurd, because you are compiling for days to get what?  nothing.
[02:42] <shammy> How risky is it to allow writing to an NTFS drive?
[02:42] <MaxL> Zambezi: I beleive MSN works in Wine or Cedega?
[02:42] <kern_malloc> sethk: i compiled 12 hours... hardly days
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> shammy: Dont do it
[02:42] <Jerr|sd> shammy: very
[02:42] <sethk> kern_malloc, ok, you compiled for 12 hours to get nothing.
[02:42] <MaxL> Can someone help me with installing something?
[02:42] <shammy> alrighty then
[02:42] <kern_malloc> sethk: most people who "do this for a living" understand the value of compiling locally on your own system
[02:42] <sethk> kern_malloc, that is a myth
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Guys, this is not the place for that
[02:42] <ajt> I'm trying to start MySQL and I keep getting this error http://paste.seagullproject.org/38
[02:42] <Jerr|sd> 12 hours? It took me DAYS to compile all of gentoo
[02:43] <sethk> kern_malloc, primarily because the gnu compiler simply doesn't have optimizations that add significant power.
[02:43] <blinker> gnomefreak: sudo apt-get update failed. it was trying to connect to <IP_ADDRESS> for some fu'd reason or another...
[02:43] <mistform> how do I use a theme I just downloaded?
[02:43] <tritium> kern_malloc, sethk: please take the disto war to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:43] <Zambezi> MaxL, I'm not sure about that, but why use Windowsapplications when there is Linuxversion. Games is another point, there is Cedega or Wine the only options.
[02:43] <XDX90> wow ubuntu is pretty user friendly
[02:43] <gnomefreak> blinker: sounds like a proxy
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: open the theme manager and drop it onto it
[02:43] <blinker> wall > modem > router (as gateway)
[02:43] <mistform> the whole tar.bz2?
[02:43] <MaxL> Zambezi can you help me out?
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> mist yes
[02:44] <WiseOdd> how do i mass set ownership / permissions of all files on my HD?
[02:44] <Recks> Well Xine is pimp....
[02:44] <sally2> how does one enable multiverse universe?
[02:44] <mistform> says file format is invalid....
[02:44] <bimberi> MaxL: just ask, if someone knows they'll help you
[02:44] <Zambezi> XDX90, It's, but just be patient. It's alot diffrent than Windows. So if things doesn't work directly, try a little bit more and ask here. :-)
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> WiseOdd: Not wise
[02:44] <MaxL> Hey anyone use qjoypad?
[02:44] <mistform> it's a GDM theme
[02:44] <ardchoille> WiseOdd: You really don't wanna do that
[02:44] <Zambezi> MaxL, I use Gaim so I can't help you with that.
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: I had some of those themes do the same thing, 2 out of 20 I did yesterday
[02:45] <roostishaw> anyone, what is the package name for frostwire? or is it still in the repos?
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> try a different one just to be sure you are doing it right
[02:45] <sethk> Wiseguy, you can use chmod -R, but it is probably a bad idea to do it to your entire tree.
[02:45] <Wiseguy> hey guys does it make sense to setup iptables on my ubuntu box if im behind a router?
[02:45] <sethk> Wiseguy, depends on the router, but I believe not
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Wiseguy: You shouldnt need to
[02:45] <mwe> sethk: I don't doubt that ubuntu is as fast or faster than gentoo but aren't they compiled with the same compiler?
[02:45] <WiseOdd> jack_sparrow: my xtra hdd is filled with files from an older installation, and i can only use them with root priv. in dapper root is somewhat disabled, so a lot of the files cant be used without trouble...
[02:46] <sethk> mwe, yes, generally, but the distro builders add significant value.
[02:46] <Recks> I have 5.1 surround sound how do I get the other 3.1 channels to work?
[02:46] <Wiseguy> sethk, its just a cheap linksys... wrt54g
[02:46] <mistform> I did another one
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> WiseOdd: what happens when you mount the extra partition, what fpormat is the partition?
[02:46] <sally2> anyone work with kismet?
[02:46] <mistform> same thing, invalid format
[02:46] <bimberi> !frostwire > roostishaw
[02:46] <sethk> Wiseguy, I wouldn't set up iptables in that config.
[02:46] <mwe> sethk: I don't understand
[02:46] <sally2> trying to install it on ubuntu 6.06
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: which ones did you try
[02:46] <blinker> gnomefreak:  would i be able to manually download the files and copy them somewheres to work around this issue?
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> from where
[02:46] <WiseOdd> jack: its ext2
[02:46] <sethk> mwe, compiling is not as simple as just running make.
[02:47] <sally2> trying to figure this out:
[02:47] <roostishaw> bimberi, thank you
[02:47] <Recks> Jack_Sparrow: any ideas on how to make my surround sound work?
[02:47] <sally2> sally2, enable universe and multiverse, then sudo aptitude in a shell.
[02:47] <sally2> Find Kismet, check the dependencies, then install the corresponding dev-
[02:47] <sally2> packages for any libs. Then pick up the kismet source from kismetwireless,
[02:47] <sally2> configure and make. Thats all there is to it.
[02:47] <gnomefreak> blinker: packages.ubuntu.com has all packages on it
[02:47] <sethk> mwe, different options will help in different situations.
[02:47] <bimberi> roostishaw: np :)
[02:47] <MaxL> Hey can someone help me with qjoypad?
[02:47] <blinker> k
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: Here is where I get mine http://art.gnome.org/themes
[02:47] <blinker> gnomefreak: again, thx
[02:47] <mwe> sethk: I know. but isn't the what the ebuilds do?
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Recks:  no
[02:47] <Recks> o.o
[02:48] <sethk> mwe, yes, if you download the ubuntu source you'll get the same result, in general.  I was referring more to downloading source tarballs.
[02:48] <sethk> mwe, there are also issues, however, with the order that things are built, linking to static vs dynamic libraries.
[02:48] <gnomefreak> blinker: im sorry i cant go through the process right now its about bed time but i see a few people in here that can help if you ask why am i getting this error (i suggest checking to see if ubuntu is connecting through proxy (doesnt mean you set one up either
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: LEt me know what theme so I can check it and then we can do md5sum to verify you have the same file
[02:49] <mwe> sethk: yes.
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: Goodnight
[02:49] <blinker> gnomefreak: righto - I'll have all night to play with it so i should be able to get it worked out. later man
[02:50] <gnomefreak> night all
[02:50] <CyaniCs> night.
[02:50] <ardchoille> g'nite gnomefreak
[02:50] <WiseOdd> jack: when trying to copy the files from the xtra hdd to my ordinary hdd, it says "some contents unreadable." bcause of ordinary user not having permission to read...
[02:51] <CyaniCs|Gxine> I wish someone would get Azureus compiled correctly for dapper.
[02:51] <Zambezi> Shouldn't be possible to make a folder in mnt without sudo/root?
[02:51] <mistform> whoa....
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> WiseOdd: What is the format on that other partition
[02:51] <XDX90> when i ran linux from the disk, on my desktop is a program called "install" , i'm at a part where it says "how do you want to partition the disk?" - what should i do? there's 3 options
[02:51] <mistform> anyone ever get en error in firefox?
[02:51] <WiseOdd> ext3
[02:51] <mistform> "XML Parsing Error: syntax error"
[02:51] <mistform> ssed = ture;
[02:51] <XDX90> i wanna have 2 os's
[02:51] <mistform> true*
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> XDX90: DO you have unallocated space on that drive
[02:52] <XDX90> some
[02:52] <XDX90> it says
[02:52] <Jerr|sd> anyone want to look at my fdisk output and see if something can be done to somehow not have exploding windows
[02:52] <CyaniCs|Gxine> XDX90: you will need to clear up some space for linux to be installed.
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: What about your theme problem?
[02:52] <Jerr|sd> http://pastebin.com/760621
[02:52] <coded1> can any one help me with dapper?  it detects my usb wireless adapter no problem I can use iwlist to get my AP but i cannot figure out how to actually get a connection...
[02:52] <XDX90> do you know how big it is?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> XDX90: shrink your xp install by 20 gig
[02:52] <CyaniCs|Gxine> XDX90: you can either repartition, or resize your FS, depending upon what OS and FS you have.
[02:52] <Suspect> Hey everyone
[02:52] <blinker> (fs - file lsystem)
[02:52] <sethk> Wiseguy, it's ok to change ownership on a bunch of data files.  I meant that it isn't a good idea to change ownership of the files that are installed (in /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, etc.) during install.
[02:53] <XDX90> I only have around 3.1 gb of space
[02:53] <CyaniCs|Gxine> coded1: download a program called "WIFI radar"
[02:53] <Suspect> I seem to have locked myself out of my fresh install of ubuntu on another computer
[02:53] <blinker> XDX90: I used a 3g partition for my install
[02:53] <sethk> Wiseguy, if you have this thing mounted on /media/whatever, and you do a chown -R or a chmod -R on /media/whatever, that's safe.
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> XDX90: how big that hard drive
[02:53] <blinker> should be fine, you just won't have workds of space to play with
[02:53] <coded1> CyaniCs|Gxine,cool thanx!
[02:53] <sethk> Suspect, boot a live cd or the install cd in rescue mode.
[02:53] <WiseOdd> sethk: i figure that much :)
[02:53] <XDX90> only 60gb but its a laptop
[02:53] <tritium> Suspect: forgot your password?  You can reboot into recovery (single user) mode
[02:53] <sgkf> What directory do i put the themes for XMMS and how do i change it's theme?
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> XDX90: Std install is about 2.8 gig  you are cutting it close
[02:53] <XDX90> I have arund 57GB taken up by windows
[02:53] <CyaniCs|Gxine> XDX90: 3gb is rather small.
[02:53] <WiseOdd> sethk: thx again :)
[02:54] <Suspect> tritium: well I am 95% sure I have it right.. but once I'm in recovery mode how do I fix the problem?
[02:54] <CyaniCs|Gxine> XDX90: i strongly recommend 10gb, just for safe keeping.
[02:54] <sethk> WiseOdd, it's best to say explicitly, though; some people may not know, or probably more realistically wouldn't know that they need to be careful about where they run a recursive command.
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[02:55] <blinker> oh, since we're on partitions...i had something interesting happen when i was setting up. i have a total of 4 parts on one physical HDD - does ubuntu only recognize up to 3? the missing 4th was going to be designated for swap space
[02:55] <mistform> anyone ever the the FF error?
[02:55] <CyaniCs|VLC> you can only have 4 partitions total.
[02:55] <mistform> it's when I try to open Preferences
[02:55] <Jenkens> i seem to be having a problem with gnu screen's backspace .. it accepts ^H, rather than ^? as normal.  anyone else experience this?
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: how did you install ff
[02:56] <bruenig> mistform, what error
[02:56] <mistform> it came installed
[02:56] <Zambezi> Shouldn't it be possible to make a folder in /mnt/ without sudo/root?
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: just checking
[02:56] <mistform> and it worked 2 hrs ago
[02:56] <WiseOdd> sethk: i know :) and ill be careful! thx again, both for the advise and for the help!
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: no
[02:56] <rcmiv> ola! - gdm login screen resolution way too high, xorg.conf 1024x768 at every depth..howto fix?
[02:56] <mistform> all I've done is update ubuntu, I never touched FF
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: did you change the repos ?
[02:57] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, I'll check if I can make folders in mount without sudo.
[02:57] <mistform> yes, I only added one that a guide told me to
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: what gide?
[02:57] <Suspect> tritium: ?
[02:57] <tritium> Suspect: reset the passwd
[02:57] <mistform> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[02:58] <blinker> is /tmp what gets used as swap space?
[02:58] <tritium> Suspect: passwd <username>
[02:58] <Suspect> okay
[02:58] <tritium> blinker: no
[02:58] <Suspect> thanks
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: so just multiverse and universe?
[02:58] <mistform> yeah, I added those two before I updated
[02:58] <mistform> er.. checked the boxes ;)
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: save your bookmarks, uninstall and reinstall
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: see if that does not clear it
[02:59] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, I can make folders on my harddrive without sudo and I need to make them without sudo.
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: where were you trying to make them?
[02:59] <Suspect> tritium: When I try to reset the password, it says that user does not exist. Maybe I made a spelling error when typing the username during the install.. is there a command to list all of the users?
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: You can make folders but I questioned where you wanted to make them
[03:00] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, In /mnt/harddrive2
[03:00] <pkh> is it possible to force the group to use for a new file in a particular directory?
[03:00] <tritium> Suspect: you can cat /etc/passwd, or ls /home
[03:00] <Suspect> thanks
[03:00] <tritium> Suspect: your user should have uid 1000
[03:01] <CyaniCs|VLC> tritium: not necessarily.
[03:01] <sproingie> pkh: i think chmod g+s dirname will give new files the gid of the directory
[03:02] <mistform> where can I get Xchat for Ubuntu so I don't have to fucking switch between computers anymore???
[03:02] <CyaniCs|VLC> UID isn't important, as-long-as the UID matches the user
[03:02] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, dator@dator:/mnt/harddrive2$ mkdir test // mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Permission denied
[03:02] <pkh> sproingie, awesome!  thanks will look into it!
[03:02] <ian> Question: Does one need to upgrade which kernel they are using depending upon how fast/slow (old/new) their computer is?
[03:02] <tritium> CyaniCs|VLC: from a standard install, his uid _should_ be 1000
[03:02] <sgkf> What directory do i put the themes for XMMS and how do i change it's theme?
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: exactly
[03:03] <tritium> CyaniCs|VLC: scroll up, and you'll see what you missed
[03:03] <CyaniCs|VLC> mistform: i think xchat is in the multiverse or backports
[03:03] <lukaswayne9> My cpu is at 100%, how can I tell what's hogging the CPU?
[03:03] <cpk2> lukaswayne9: "top"
[03:03] <CyaniCs|VLC> tritium: understood, and appoligies.
[03:03] <mistform> I have to do the "advanced" to uninstall it
[03:03] <tritium> CyaniCs|VLC: no wories :)
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: fine
[03:03] <ian> lukaswayne9:  Open system monitor
[03:03] <CyaniCs|VLC> lukaswayne9: in a terminal type "top"
[03:03] <ian> lukaswayne9:  then check and see what process is running so much of your resources.
[03:04] <CyaniCs|VLC> lukaswayne9: then sort by CPU usage by pressing "p"
[03:04] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, And when I can't make folders without sudo, I can't transfer files over the LAN without using root.
[03:04] <rcmiv> any thoughts on GDM resolution?
[03:04] <mistform> what is firefox-dbg?
[03:04] <CyaniCs|VLC> lukaswayne9: sorry... misdirected response.
[03:04] <mistform> do I need it?
[03:04] <sproingie> mistform: debug symbols for firefox, and no you don't need it
[03:05] <mistform> I right-clicked them and went to Reinstall
[03:05] <lukaswayne9> CyaniCs|VLC: thanks
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Zambezi: I am tired and about to call it a night.  What format was the mounted drive
[03:05] <lukaswayne9> CyaniCs|VLC: gnome-panel was the culprit
[03:05] <TimeKiller> That was updated today wasn't it?
[03:05] <chris86wm> when I shutdown I get a "unregister_netdevice: waiting for eth1 to become free. Usage count =1" notice
[03:05] <chris86wm> whats going on?
[03:06] <ian> Question: Should you choose your kernel based on what type of proc you're using?  I'm 'upgrading' to an AMD Athalon 1700, will i686 be enough or should I go for a diff kernel?
[03:06] <ian> !kernel
[03:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:06] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: you would want either i386 or i686
[03:07] <ian> CyaniCs|VLC: Even with 2G of ram?
[03:07] <Zambezi> Jack_Sparrow, It's ext3.
[03:07] <mistform> mmkay, ty, Jack_Sparrow
[03:07] <ian> CyaniCs|VLC: And which would you choose?  i386 or i686?
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: are you up and running yet
[03:07] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: yeap. most of the OS is setup for i386, and when necessary some portions are compiled against 686 code.
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> mistform: did you figure out the theme problem
[03:07] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: i am on a Athlon 2900 xp, and run a 386/686 kernel
[03:08] <chris86wm> any ideas guys?
[03:08] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: but it is all default/stock stuff, nothing custom comiled.
[03:08] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: sounds like either a bad LAN cable, or a bad NIC.
[03:08] <Max007> can someone help me with configuration of a wifi network with a bcm43xx adapter ?
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> chris86wm: let people know what type of network card that is and how you installed any drivers if any
[03:09] <ian> CyaniCs|VLC: Sys Info tells me I'm using i686, do you know where I can find a good faq on what precisely the diff is between 386 and 686?
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[03:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:09] <chris86wm> its a built in wireless card on my Inspiron 6000
[03:09] <mistform> Max007: I have hte same, and mine won't work
[03:09] <Max007> ubotu: i tried all docs ... it still doesn't work
[03:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about i tried all docs ... it still doesn't work - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:09] <chris86wm> i just started getting the error yesterday and it seems to come and go
[03:09] <sproingie> ian: you'll probably never notice the difference between the cpu arch types.  the kernel simply doesn't do the kind of stuff that usually benefits from it
[03:09] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: depends on what you are wanting to look into. The difference between 386 and 686 is the microcode achitecture within the CPU.
[03:09] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: but you can try reading the FAQ in the kernel
[03:10] <CyaniCs|VLC> ian: kernel source
[03:10] <chris86wm> same problems here in the forums: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1323209#post1323209
[03:10] <sproingie> ian: i run a 386 kernel on an athlon64 2200, and it's silk smooth
[03:10] <chicken_Fire> #ati
[03:10] <mistform> I have a Latitude D600
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> chris86wm: try to identify that chipset
[03:11] <Phat32> How do I find my graphics card's BusID?
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> mist c610 here
[03:11] <chris86wm> ipw2200
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> lspci
[03:11] <sproingie> Phat32: lspci
[03:11] <ian> CyaniCs|VLC and sproingie : Thanks to both of you.  I appreciate the help.
[03:11] <sproingie> i lose
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:11] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: i run an ipw2200 also
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> I gotta eat and get some sleep. Goodnight people, Play nice..
[03:11] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: make sure that you have downloaded and installed the necessary firmware
[03:12] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, i think I have, everything was auto-detected and I can browse the net fine
[03:12] <Phat32> sproingie, I need it to show the BusID as it would in xorg.conf
[03:12] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: what happens when you manually shutdown the network with an "/etc/init/network stop"
[03:12] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, let me boot back up and see
[03:13] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, it seems as if this error only happens on a shutdown and not a restart
[03:13] <Phat32> Where is the BusID --> 0000:01:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500 ]  (rev a1)
[03:13] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, also i have to browse the net a bit to get it to make the error
[03:14] <Phat32> Don't BusID's look like "PCI:0:1:0" or close to that
[03:14] <chicken_Fire> Hi! 3D support problem: I have an -ATI 3d card x1600 512MB AGP- I installed the package xorg-driver-fglrx, runned the ati-config commands. I get 3d acceleration, can start kde and all. Fine. But if I switch to a console with ctr-alt-F1 and then back to X, my system freezes. help!
[03:14] <CyaniCs|VLC> it sounds like a bad card / mini-pci connection failure.
[03:14] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, the card itself works fine
[03:14] <chicken_Fire> any magix xorg.conf options I might try with ATI problems?
[03:15] <chris86wm> (in windows and it used to in ubuntu)
[03:15] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: the only thing i can think of is to uninstall and reinstall the firmware & drivers.
[03:15] <sproingie> Phat32: should be the numbers between 0000: and the dot
[03:15] <Phat32> sproingie, there are letters in it.. that's not how it's supposed to look
[03:15] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, how do I go about that?
[03:15] <sproingie> Phat32: it's in hex
[03:16] <TimeKiller> funny, I don't see a BUS ID in my xorg.conf and i run a FX 5500
[03:16] <Phat32> sproingie, so what should I covert it to?
[03:16] <CyaniCs|VLC> in synaptic, you need to mark it for reinstallation. (probably fully remove, then reinstall)
[03:16] <TimeKiller> oh wait
[03:16] <TimeKiller> i'm blind
[03:16] <TimeKiller> that might be why
[03:16] <sproingie> Phat32: don't
[03:16] <sproingie> Phat32: i've personally never had to use a busid in my xorg.conf
[03:16] <Phat32> sproingie,  xorg.conf doesn't apear to use hex
[03:16] <TimeKiller> BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[03:17] <CyaniCs|VLC> i don't have a busid in my xorg either.
[03:17] <TimeKiller> for a FX 5500
[03:17] <TimeKiller> its in the Section "Device"
[03:17] <Phat32> TimeKiller, How did you come up with that? and doesn't the BusID have something to do with which PCI slot the device is in?
[03:17] <TimeKiller> That's what's in my xorg.conf
[03:17] <sproingie> Phat32: if you have an agp controller it's almost certainly 1:0:0 or 1:0:1
[03:17] <TimeKiller> Yep
[03:17] <chris86wm> I am using a Network manager applet to connect to my wifi, would that have an effect?
[03:18] <TimeKiller> AGP slot is 1
[03:18] <Phat32> sproingie, it's PCI
[03:18] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: shouldn't make a difference.
[03:18] <sproingie> Phat32: looks like the number after the dot gets used too.  just convert 0000 to PCI, and the dot to a colon
[03:18] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: but it might. try shutting down the manager before shutting down and see what happens.
[03:18] <CyaniCs|VLC> personaly, i like wifi-radar.
[03:19] <sproingie> Phat32: welcome to X and goofy addressing schemes.  solaris would have a /dev/pci
[03:19] <Phat32> sproingie,  0000:01:0b.0  =  PCI:1:0:0 ???
[03:19] <sproingie> Phat32: my guess would be PCI:1:b:0
[03:19] <Tennessee> Is there any way to take a process that is started normally, and change it to 'nohup' mode?
[03:19] <chicken_Fire> known problems with xorg-driver-fglrx ubuntu dapper and ati x1600?
[03:20] <oblib> how do I install kernel source in Dapper?
[03:20] <Phat32> Can anyone confirm what sproingie is saying?
[03:20] <chris86wm> Cyanics|vlc, well it shutdown with no problems that time, but as I said it comes and goes
[03:20] <CyaniCs|VLC> Phat32: try looking in /proc/bus/pci for the bus id
[03:20] <oliver> hello
[03:20] <TimeKiller> I can't i've never even looked at that spot in my xorg.conf until just now
[03:20] <CyaniCs|VLC> chris86wm: intermittent problems suck
[03:20] <oliver> why does ekiga reqiure tcp Port 135?
[03:20] <theboywhogotlost> Hey I'm new to Ubuntu and I tried to install bluefish
[03:20] <mistform> where and how do I get Xchat for Ubuntu?
[03:20] <runespy> i have a question, i read reviews on ubuntu, and i still want to run windows xp for photoshop, can i have to seprate partitions?? so that i can have a dual boot
[03:20] <oliver> the documentation says nothing about Port 135