[08:36] <PatrikJohansson> frank: which headers should i install?? (sry for all the stupid questions man :( )
[08:36] <gildo> i have gnome
[08:36] <dducko> anybody know where I might pick them up at?
[08:37] <soma_> Revellion, for what environment and language? .. i feel eclipse is really neat for java dev... but im mostly doing ruby work now, and it is.. well.. less than optimal tho.. .i wouldnt want to work in nano tho :P
[08:37] <dmlinux> REvellion never heard/used it
[08:37] <pder> UBUNTU DO NOT SUPPORT HARD DISK
[08:37] <gildo> Reading package lists... Done
[08:37] <gildo> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:37] <gildo> E: Couldn't find package Graveman
[08:37] <Revellion> soma_: C / C++ / Python and Perl :)
[08:37] <dmlinux> pder what are you shouting about?
[08:37] <frank> PatrikJohansson: you have the x86 version of Ubuntu, and never changed your kernel?
[08:37] <Revellion> mostly C
[08:37] <bluefrog-10> gildo, intall K3b is fine. the only thing it will install some KDE stuff but no worries, eveything works
[08:37] <Revellion> dmlinux: oh
[08:37] <spudse> bluefrog-10, yeah normal install again, but still it hangs at 49%
[08:37] <mr> i uncommented the"following two lines"
[08:37] <gnomefreak> gildo: what repos do you have enabled in your sources list?
[08:37] <PatrikJohansson> frank, at least i think so :D
[08:37] <meli> haui
[08:37] <Revellion> dmlinux: they are saying that Gnomebaker should be the best burning app for the Gnome/GTK enviroment :|
[08:37] <bluefrog-10> spudse, 49% of what?
[08:37] <soma_> Revellion, if you like python you should look up ruby.. its really nice
[08:38] <Revellion> soma_: nah
[08:38] <dmlinux> revellion is it out yet?
[08:38] <digits> Hey guys, I'm trying to compile my kernel... did as the tutorial said, but the kernel wants gcc-3.4 but I have gcc-4.0 (breezy default installed)... why?
[08:38] <shagg> anybody had any experience with win4lin on Ubuntu (ie. is it possible)?
[08:38] <pder> gnomebaker suxors
[08:38] <Revellion> soma_: bad reps about Ruby still throws me off
[08:38] <soma_> Revellion, like?
[08:38] <frank> PatrikJohansson: install linux-headers-386  It should be what you need. to check in a console type uname -a
[08:38] <Revellion> soma_: Python/Perl i use mostly for quick shell stuff or prototypes
[08:38] <intelikey> mr put a space in front of them so your irc client doesnt think they are commands.
[08:38] <intelikey>  /blah blah
[08:38] <Revellion> soma_: and Python/Perl is widely more supported than Ruby for the work i do :\
[08:38] <soma_> Revellion, hehe.. yeah well ruby is more fun :)
[08:39] <mr>  okay
[08:39] <Revellion> soma_: that's odd
[08:39] <Revellion> soma_: most of my friends got nightmares about Ruby :\
[08:39] <soma_> Revellion, how's that?
[08:39] <PatrikJohansson> frank: "Linux patrik 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:39] <PatrikJohansson> "
[08:39] <Revellion> soma_: dunno :)
[08:39] <frank> PatrikJohansson: then you have the 386 kernel
[08:39] <Revellion> soma_: they said it was a pain in the ass to work with
[08:39] <Ravi`s> i need request UBUNTU CDS
[08:40] <PatrikJohansson> frank.. so the one you suggested is right??
[08:40] <frank> PatrikJohansson: yeah
[08:40] <lJlolel> hello
[08:40] <jenda> lJlolel hello
[08:40] <soma_> Revellion, oh okay.. well its not your average c-style syntax.. perhaps thats whats bothering them
[08:40] <lJlolel> postfix is only accepting e-mail from localhost,how do i make it accept mail from like yahoo?
[08:40] <Ravi`s> help....
[08:40] <digits> Why does "make menuconfig" complain about gcc-3.4 not being installed? (I thought 4.0 was breezy default)
[08:40] <Revellion> soma_: so maybe that's why it won't work for me neither :)
[08:41] <PatrikJohansson> frank. ok now i see i was looking at the package with the kernel version but now it installed that one aswell :P
[08:41] <Revellion> soma_: since most stuff i've worked on has been C and C++ :)
[08:41] <frank> digits: the kernel is compiled with 3.4
[08:41] <Revellion> since a long time
[08:41] <bluefrog-10> digits, install 3.4 and u'll be fine
[08:41] <Revellion> old habits die hard :|
[08:41] <soma_> Revellion, well, you should always be open for new stuff
[08:41] <Ravi`s> i need request UBUNTU CDS version 5.10
[08:41] <digits> frank, bluefrog-10: oh... can't i just recompile it with 4.0?
[08:41] <Revellion> soma_: i should indeed
[08:41] <frank> PatrikJohansson: so you installed everything in synaptic?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> ravi's go to shipit on ubuntu.org
[08:41] <frank> digits: not the kernel
[08:42] <PatrikJohansson> frank: yeah
[08:42] <digits> frank: ok, thanks
[08:42] <Revellion> soma_: but still it would probably never become a language i'd use regularly
[08:42] <Ravi`s> gnomefreak <--- thank you
[08:42] <soma_> Revellion, i recently attended a class in Haskell.. .. now that was different from "normal" programming
[08:42] <gnomefreak> Ravi`s, no problem
[08:42] <bluefrog-10> spudse, where u at now?
[08:42] <soma_> Revellion, you never know, you might like it :)
[08:42] <^DodGeR^> evening every1
[08:42] <frank> PatrikJohansson: now  in the console   export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4   then   vmware-config   or whatever the script name is
[08:43] <lJlolel> so has anyone gotten postfix to work?
[08:43] <gnomefreak> soma_, isnt haskel based on java or python or something?
[08:43] <^DodGeR^> quick q, how do i get home , myPc, trash icons on the desktop ? (breezy)
[08:43] <soma_> gnomefreak, uhm.. no
[08:44] <soma_> gnomefreak, python is partly based on functional programming languages like haskell tho
[08:44] <bluefrog-10> ^DodGeR^, drag and drop from the menus
[08:44] <chris__> hi
[08:44] <PAK_013> ibook touch pad problem.... if somebody can help me please call me on private
[08:44] <frank> PatrikJohansson: the reason you do this is because gcc-4 is the default compiler but the kernel and kernel modules need to be compiled with gcc-3.4 instead
[08:44] <gnomefreak> soma_,  maybe thats what i was thinking
[08:44] <chris__> I'm having problems getting sound
[08:44] <ekimus> anyone can recommend me a good java decompiler?
[08:44] <marek_> hi
[08:45] <^DodGeR^> ty bluefrog-10 , will give it a shot
[08:45] <^DodGeR^> ekimus , 'jad' is still best i recon
[08:45] <marek_> i'm having problem with FLEX
[08:45] <chris__> Why won't sound work???
[08:45] <marek_> i can't install wine
[08:45] <NoUse> !tell chris about sound
[08:46] <chris__> first day using ubuntu and can't even get sound :(
[08:46] <Juhaz> am I hallucinating here or does firefox prefer /etc/mailcap over gnome mime system?
[08:46] <Amaranth> !fixsound
[08:46] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Amaranth
[08:46] <Amaranth> hrm
[08:46] <Amaranth> !sound
[08:46] <ubotu> somebody said sound was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:47] <jenda> marek_ of course you can. what's the matter?
[08:47] <intelikey> chris__ the url is for you ^
[08:47] <Amaranth> Juhaz: firefox does not integrate fully into GNOME :(.
[08:47] <Amaranth> i should try to write the firefox extensions i use as epiphany extensions
[08:48] <Juhaz> Amaranth, indeed, but it is capable of using gnome mime system - IF there is no mailcap entry
[08:48] <Amaranth> anyway, lunch time
[08:48] <Amaranth> Juhaz: in that case it's a bug, please file it in bugzilla
[08:48] <richie_> Easy q for many ppl... How do I make a crypt password in shell?
[08:48] <PatrikJohansson> frank: do i need to reebot before installing vmware??
[08:49] <frank> PatrikJohansson: no
[08:49] <soma_> richie_, encrypted how?
[08:49] <fasted> hello everyone!
[08:49] <PatrikJohansson> frank: so now it should work?
[08:49] <ph8> gnomefreak: I'm just using all the GUIS
[08:49] <lJlolel> is anyone here familiar with postfix smtp server?
[08:49] <ph8> I don't know much about cups
[08:49] <ph8> gnomefreak: I'm just using all the GUIs
[08:49] <frank> PatrikJohansson: did you run the configuration script with all the network settings?
[08:49] <richie_> soma: you know the unix passwords? they use crypt
[08:49] <soma_> lJlolel, sure
[08:49] <fasted> could need some hints on nvidia and glxgears performance....
[08:49] <ph8> my connection at uni is horribly lagged - apologies for slow replies
[08:49] <ekimus> lJlolel: depends on what you want to do...
[08:49] <lJlolel> soma_, i can only send mail locally
[08:50] <lJlolel> soma_, i mean, ican't get yahoo to send mail to my server
[08:50] <soma_> lJlolel, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure postfix?
[08:50] <Ng> richie_: quite often they use md5 these days
[08:50] <lJlolel> soma_, i'll try that now
[08:50] <PatrikJohansson> frank: im still trying to install vmware.... what script??
[08:50] <marek_> where i found flex?
[08:50] <marek_> i can't install wine!!!
[08:50] <Juhaz> Amaranth, yeah, was planning on it, I just wondered if someone could confirm, since it's rather strange that nobody has filed it, considering how annoying it is that it insists on opening .c files with less, for example
[08:50] <j5y> how do i install addons in firefox?
[08:50] <richie_> ng: how i make a crypt passwd anyway, i wanna try somethin
[08:50] <frank> did you install vmware already?
[08:50] <soma_> lJlolel, but you do know that having an open smtp-server visible on the internet is a potential security risk?
[08:51] <PatrikJohansson> frank: no its the installer im trying to run
[08:51] <NoUse> marek_ what happens when you enter 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[08:51] <lJlolel> soma_, oh, how would i minimize that risk?
[08:51] <BluesRocker> marek_, use synaptic package manager
[08:51] <ekimus> lJlolel: can you actually send local mail with postfix? can you send local mail to other hosts, does you isp allow you to have port 25 open, are you behind a firewall? (that would be the order in which i'd try to debug the settings)
[08:51] <soma_> lJlolel, .. uh well, .. dont run it :)
[08:51] <bluefrog-10> PatrikJohansson, u need to sudo to run the installer
[08:51] <frank> PatrikJohansson: ok run it after you export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[08:51] <fasted> after using the nvidia driver instead of nv, is there much else to be done? other changes in order to get good performance?
[08:51] <ekimus> soma_: so what, having a computer plugged to the net is a potential security risk :)
[08:51] <marek_> thanks, im check it
[08:52] <soma_> ekimus, sure :P
[08:52] <lJlolel> soma_, great, it works now!
[08:52] <PatrikJohansson> frank: still get the same error
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> All right, so I have a couple of quick questions:
[08:52] <frank> PatrikJohansson: what error?
[08:52] <soma_> lJlolel, now we should all use your mail server for our spam forwarding :)
[08:52] <PatrikJohansson> frank : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3660
[08:52] <Ng> richie_: I'm not sure of a way to do it from a command line. You could make a temporary user and set their password, but the username is usually part of the hash, so that wouldn't work for another user. sorry I can't be of more use, but I expect google may be able to help
[08:52] <lJlolel> soma_, hmm
[08:53] <budluva> anyone here use e17?
[08:53] <ekimus> guess i'm too old style for ubuntu, i'd start configuring my mail server by digging the config files, and tail -f <logs> :)
[08:53] <frank> PatrikJohansson: the export command will fix that
[08:53] <marek_> package lost
[08:53] <marek_> HoUse
[08:53] <lJlolel> soma_, but I don't allow relaying
[08:53] <marek_> package lost
[08:53] <soma_> lJlolel,  :)
[08:53] <PatrikJohansson> frank then the export command didnt work for me :(
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> First, I want to disable the system bell, for shutdown warnings and the like.  I had succeeded in doing so in Hoary by adding set bell-style none in ~/.bashrc and /etc/inputrc and deselecting it under System>Sound>System Bell, but that's not doing it now in Breezy.
[08:54] <intelikey> richie_ "man gpg "  or  "man md5 "   or even "man shadow "  any of those might point you in the right dirrection.   you can also write your own decoding key with tr "man tr "
[08:54] <gildo> Guys, I just wanted to point out that jenda has been a GREAT help for me today. He seems to be a good asset to the channel, we need more people like him :)
[08:54] <gildo> People like him will definitely keep the ubuntu community growing.
[08:54] <BluesRocker> anyone knows how to configure TV out?
[08:54] <gildo> Thanks jenda!
[08:54] <frank> PatrikJohansson: type gcc-3.4 -v in a console
[08:54] <marek_> redhat have RPM, what have a Ubuntu??
[08:55] <marek_> what kind of packages?
[08:55] <gnomefreak> marek_ ubuntu uses .deb
[08:55] <BluesRocker> marek_ .deb
[08:55] <fasted> marek_, deb
[08:55] <marek_> thanks
[08:55] <frank> PatrikJohansson: is the last line gcc 3.4.5 ....
[08:55] <BluesRocker> marek_, you can transform rpm to deb with "alien" command
[08:56] <PatrikJohansson> frank, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3662
[08:56] <PatrikJohansson> frank: looks like it
[08:56] <budluva> anyone aware of a file manager i can use for e17 besides the one that comes with e? it blows :P
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> The second is hypothetical (trying to anticipate things that a friend of mine might do accidentally when they try Linux for the first time): Say you have Grub installed on the mbr, and in /boot/grub/menu.lst set it to autoboot to a default option with 0 time delay, but that option is set as Windows.  How would someone recover from that?  (Can you edit the grub menu from windows / will hitting esc be possible with no wait time?)
[08:56] <SpoonyLivin> Hello
[08:56] <fredforfaen> hey
[08:56] <SpoonyLivin> I have a quick question
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> Have any of you had success disabling the system bell under Breezy?
[08:57] <SpoonyLivin> Does anybody know of an IRC client that support transparent windows?
[08:57] <frank> PatrikJohansson: you need to run the installer   in the same console as export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[08:57] <SpoonyLivin> a la Xterm?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, configure your grub boot menu
[08:57] <PatrikJohansson> ok
[08:57] <fredforfaen> xchat SpoonyLivin
[08:57] <marek_> do you know any place in internet with deb packages for download?
[08:57] <SpoonyLivin> xchat does that?
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: The question is how.
[08:57] <fredforfaen> yeah
[08:57] <crimsun> marek_: archive.ubuntu.com ...?
[08:57] <SpoonyLivin> via the ~/.Xresources file?
[08:57] <SpoonyLivin> or some other file?
[08:57] <marek_> thanks crimsun
[08:57] <beruic> Can anyone help me upgrading from Hoary to Breezy?
[08:58] <intelikey> tonyyarusso [esc]  will work.   load the key buffer just before it starts the boot process.
[08:58] <crimsun> beruic: have you read the upgrade notes in the topic?
[08:58] <izmaelis> beruic, follow instructions in wiki and everything will be ok
[08:58] <beruic> Can't find ti...
[08:58] <crimsun> /topic
[08:58] <Juhaz> marek_, you don't usually need or want to download debs by hand, but set up the repositories and let apt-get/aptitude/synaptic handle installing software
[08:58] <ben_w> hey...this is kind of a trivial problem, I want to set an icon for an application shortcut on the tool bar, i browsed to the icons location but it was grayed out
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: So it will automatically register the key press as soon as it reaches that point?  Perfect.  Thanks.
[08:58] <beruic> Think I found something now...
[08:59] <PatrikJohansson> frank: what is NAT networking?? (the other thing worked now THX )
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> Still wondering about the system bell thing though.
[09:00] <frank> PatrikJohansson: you can answer yes to all the questions....   NAT means that vmware machines will share your computer's connection
[09:00] <lJlolel> soma_, ah! how do i stop my computer from being an open relay?
[09:00] <PatrikJohansson> frank: ok, good
[09:02] <frank> PatrikJohansson: when you setup a virtual machine, you have to choose how it is conencted. I always use MA
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> It seems that the Gnome-accessible bell setting under Preferences>Sound doesn't affect whether terminal actions will still trigger it.
[09:02] <frank> PatrikJohansson: NAT
[09:02] <PatrikJohansson> frank: now it seems to have run the entire installer without problems :D
[09:02] <PatrikJohansson> frank: thx alot
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> Or they only sometimes do, which is quite confusing.
[09:02] <dducko> !repos
[09:02] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[09:03] <frank> PatrikJohansson: no problem
[09:04] <PatrikJohansson> frank: what now?? (sry man but your so helpful :D )
[09:04] <dducko> where do i find the aditional repos for Breezy?
[09:05] <linkd> aditional repositories?
[09:05] <dducko> yeah
[09:05] <dducko> Multiverse and such
[09:05] <Seveas> !repos
[09:05] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[09:05] <marek_> which command install deb file (in Mandrake: rpm -i xxx.rpm)? what is in ubuntu?
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I've collected more data.  When I first boot the computer and Gnome starts up and I've logged in through the gdm, if I open a terminal window through Apps>Accessories>Terminal, and then do a shutdown command, it's silent like I want it to be.
[09:05] <lasindi[lappy] > How can I install Flash for Konqueror in Ubuntu?
[09:05] <linkd> you just need to change the distro in the deb directives of /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:05] <Seveas> marek_, dpkg -i
[09:05] <yi_> how do I make xorg look in /usr/X11R6/lib64/ for drivers
[09:05] <marek_> thx
[09:05] <yi_> nvidia installer puts them there instead of the usual /usr/X11R6/lib
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> If I switch to say tty2 by Ctrl-Alt-F2, and log in there, and run shutdown, the system bell beeps.
[09:06] <PatrikJohansson> frank: nm i think i figured this one out myself
[09:06] <dducko> Hmm Do I want Hoary Extras with Breezy?
[09:06] <intelikey> if you used that command is mdk no wonder you didn't stay with it.   it is "urpmi <file.rpm> "
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> After that, if I then switch back to Gnome on tty7, and open a terminal window as before, now it will beep on a shutdown command.
[09:06] <lasindi[lappy] > dducko, Seveas, I've added those sources, but which package(s) do I need to download?
[09:07] <Seveas> lasindi[lappy] , flashplayer-mozilla
[09:07] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : you have any unofficial sources added?
[09:07] <cappiz> someone here has a good HOWTO/guide for secure NFS server over ssh? or something
[09:07] <mirak> the X server configuration on linux is really catastrophic
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> Someone had mentioned on an unrelated topic that ~/.login only runs if you log in through the terminal, might I need to add a set bell-style none to that file as well or something to stop it from beeping?
[09:08] <lsuactiafner> mirak : i dont think it is
[09:09] <lsuactiafner> mirak : run xorgconf
[09:09] <intelikey> and shouldn't it also be "sudo apt-get install </path/file.deb> "  in place of "dpkg -i <blah> "  so that apt can check the dependancies also.
[09:09] <mirak> lsuactiafner: I think it is. We should not have to run xorgconf manually
[09:09] <mirak> lsuactiafner: windows or OS X don't fail miserably to show something on the screen
[09:09] <mirak> linux does always
[09:09] <mirak> that's a huge flaw
[09:10] <lsuactiafner> mirak : if you run vesa as the xorg driver it will also work regardless of hardware like windows does
[09:10] <lasindi[lappy] > Seveas, I discovered I have a problem with multiverse; this is the error I get: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/8096HC19.html
[09:10] <lsuactiafner> mirak : but its much easier to set up a linux box than some windows boxen
[09:10] <mirak> lsuactiafner: then it should as a default
[09:11] <lsuactiafner> it is the default.
[09:11] <mirak> lsuactiafner: yet gdm fail to start the server and show something
[09:11] <j5y> how can i change language in the spellcheck in gaim?
[09:11] <mirak> there is not even a fallback
[09:11] <lsuactiafner> mirak : then you have a very screwed up card if it doesnt support vesa
[09:12] <lsuactiafner> the fallback is the console
[09:12] <intelikey> mirak if you don't like X don't use it.
[09:12] <lsuactiafner> i dont even use a GUI, just a console and i use my pc mostly for media/entertainment
[09:12] <Seveas> lasindi[lappy] , sudo apt-get update
[09:13] <lsuactiafner> but my geforce 6600 256ram 128bit works perfectly
[09:13] <intelikey> hmmm i use kde for that but it is seldom started.
[09:13] <mirak> intelikey: ahah that's brilliant
[09:13] <intelikey> brilliant ?   mirak
[09:13] <mirak> lsuactiafner: It works on windows, I don't know what you are talking about
[09:14] <intelikey> mirak what kind of hardware you got there?  vidio that is?
[09:14] <StFS> Hello, I'm trying to run the Kubuntu 5.10 live CD on my Dell D810 and when I get to the "blue screen" (where I should select the country, keyboard layout etc) the screen goes blank and just sort of flashes the image at me from time to time... anybody have an idea of what might be going on?
[09:14] <lsuactiafner> mirak : format your windows pc and stick in a windows xp cd and see if it will work perfectly without you configuring 100 devices and settings.
[09:15] <Detox> help!!!!  I am trying to use the live cd on a dell inspiron 1150 laptop and I cannot get any video
[09:15] <lsuactiafner> and yes, what card do you have anyway
[09:15] <NoUse> Detox what kind of video card?
[09:15] <Detox> intel 82852
[09:16] <lasindi[lappy] > Seveas, I get this error with apt-get update: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Pvr89y51.html
[09:16] <lasindi[lappy] > *errors
[09:16] <dmlinux> if in apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will it keep all my settings icons etc
[09:16] <NoUse> Detox do you get just dumped to the console?
[09:16] <mirak> intelikey: that's a radeon 9600 pro
[09:16] <Detox> no,,, just no video
[09:16] <ChazZ> hey, if i have kdm set as my default desktop manager, how can i switch that back to gdm?
[09:16] <mirak> lsuactiafner: at least it will display something
[09:16] <dmlinux> frank you still there?
[09:16] <zezzy> hey, im trying to install ubuntu - it stoped tho: [DR-DOS]  A:\>
[09:16] <frank> dmlinux: yeah
[09:17] <zezzy> what do i type there?
[09:17] <frank> ChazZ: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm I think
[09:17] <dmlinux> frank if i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will kt keep all my icon settings etc.. or is it just better to wipe the partition out and start from kubuntu install ?
[09:17] <Strog> zezzy: Do you have a floppy in the drive?
[09:17] <zezzy> no floppy
[09:17] <ChazZ> thanks frank
[09:17] <zezzy> i use cd-room
[09:18] <mirak> xchat crashed I clicked on the systray
[09:18] <ChazZ> yeah that worked
[09:18] <StFS> hmm... using the vga=771 boot parameter seems to have fixed the problem for now
[09:18] <Strog> zezzy: and you have no floppy drive at all?
[09:18] <zezzy> nope
[09:18] <NoUse> Detox check to see if there are any failsafe boot options
[09:18] <zezzy> not on that comp
[09:18] <Detox> ok
[09:18] <Detox> trying nv mode now
[09:18] <Mr_Milenko> i need some suggestions or constructive critisizm on my webdesign
[09:18] <Detox> same result
[09:18] <Mr_Milenko> anyone wanna reveiw it lol
[09:18] <Detox> selected 80x25
[09:18] <frank> dmlinux: I think the kde preferences are mostly independant of the gnome ones
[09:18] <Detox> will see how it works
[09:18] <NoUse> Detox you'd want like vesa mode or something
[09:19] <Detox> ok
[09:19] <StFS> hmm... why doesn't the setup stuff automatically select an Icelandic keyboard layout when I've told it I'm in Iceland?
[09:19] <intelikey> Mr_Milenko url ?
[09:19] <sorush20> any women here?
[09:19] <zezzy> do i need a floppy?
[09:20] <dmlinux> frank one think i like about gnome is that it has the TWO panels one on top one on bottom,, can i change KDE to do that?
[09:20] <Mr_Milenko> www.milenko.org
[09:20] <Mr_Milenko> i tried my best to keep it simple but clean/nice
[09:20] <frank> dmlinux: I am sure you can but I don't know exactly how
[09:20] <intelikey> no zezzy.  but you may need another cd that one is not booting properly.
[09:20] <Mr_Milenko> and used the php addy for the news script.. i know its mostly html :P
[09:20] <dmlinux> frank my bt mouse worked as soon as i entered liveCD which is nice, too bad scroll button still doesnt
[09:20] <zezzy> oh
[09:22] <zezzy> i dont have to format my hdd to install it?
[09:22] <ogi_> are there any backports for breezy already?
[09:22] <Amaranth> no
[09:22] <Amaranth> dapper just opened
[09:23] <intelikey> Mr_Milenko looks ok  but hardcoded to size is not browser friendly. not everyone will be using that rezzzzelution
[09:24] <gnomefreak> Amaranth,  have we heard when the beta1 for dapper is comming out?
[09:24] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: we don't have betas, we have milestones
[09:24] <sorush20> any women here?
[09:24] <Mr_Milenko> what should i use?
[09:24] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: it's just a point in the dev cycle where everything on the CD installs
[09:24] <frank> gnomefreak: probably 5 months
[09:24] <NoUse> sorush20 take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:24] <djfal> i am a beautiful woman with long flowing hair
[09:24] <gnomefreak> ok ty guys
[09:25] <djfal> also i would like to know how to add a new panel to the gnome desktop
[09:25] <tarheelcoxn> lol
[09:25] <Amaranth> djfal: right click on a current panel
[09:25] <intelikey> dynamic scaling maybe
[09:26] <sorush20> djfal: don't use gnome sorry?
[09:26] <djfal> thanks
[09:26] <djfal> what do you use sorush
[09:27] <intelikey> i'm not a html anything Mr_Milenko but i know that some pages fit whatever size window they are opened in and the rest just make me mad..... :)
[09:27] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:27] <Mr_Milenko> but it does look alright right?
[09:27] <alexandros> asnyone had a problem with installing opera, it seems to can't find libawt.so and libjvm. I am using 5.10
[09:28] <intelikey> yeah if i didn't have to horizonal scrool to see it all Mr_Milenko it looks fine.
[09:28] <dducko> How do i set my gcc from 4 to 3.4 so i can instal nvidia drivers?
[09:28] <meho_> hi i would liek to know how i can play .exe files
[09:29] <bluefrog-10> dducko, install them from synaptic
[09:29] <dducko> did that
[09:29] <meho_> can anyone help me please
[09:29] <intelikey> back later maybe.....
[09:29] <bluefrog-10> dducko, have u enabled nvidia afterwards?
[09:30] <_jason> meho_:  what are you trying to do
[09:30] <dducko> i cant install it because it wont compile
[09:30] <dducko> 3.4 was used to make the kernel and it looks to 4 when it compiles it
[09:30] <meho_> i have exe short games that i want to execute and how would i be able to do that
[09:30] <bluefrog-10> dducko, not sure i understand, those from the repo don't work for u?
[09:30] <dducko> it ll compile.. it cant be added into the kernel
[09:31] <brockilyguy21> can somebody help me, i cant install anything, compile sometimes works, but when i compile, make doesnt work
[09:31] <dducko> is there an enviroemental setting of which gcc compiler is used
[09:31] <bluefrog-10> dducko, what did u choose in synaptic?
[09:31] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: why are you compiling? use apt
[09:31] <coz> Hello All
[09:31] <ricky43> how am i supposed to install . deb packages
[09:31] <odie5533> How do I reformat a USB Thumb Drive?
[09:31] <_jason> meho_:  linux doesn't use exe files, are these windows games?
[09:31] <brockilyguy21> that doesnt work either
[09:31] <gnomefreak> Alexandros: do you have java installed?
[09:31] <dducko> gcc 3.4 and all the files with it
[09:32] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: do you get an error with apt?
[09:32] <coz> you can format it just as any drive
[09:32] <brockilyguy21> yes
[09:32] <war-totem> is it possible to install windows drivers in linux?
[09:32] <meho_> most likely as they have .exe extensions
[09:32] <dducko> im useing Nvidia's driver
[09:32] <bluefrog-10> dducko, am talking of the nvidia drivers
[09:32] <farruinn> ricky43: dpkg -i <filename>
[09:32] <coz> why format it to what file system?
[09:32] <dducko> No not useing that.. unless its been fixed
[09:32] <_jason> meho_:  look into WINE and CEDEGA on forums.ubuntu.com
[09:32] <dducko> i had nothing but problems with that one in Hoary
[09:32] <_jason> meho_:  err sorry ubuntuforums.org
[09:32] <bluefrog-10> dducko, have u tried the nvidia drivers that u find in ubuntu repository
[09:32] <dducko> and prefer the Nvidia proprietary driver
[09:33] <dducko> i had nothing but problems with that one in Hoary
[09:33] <brockilyguy21> wait, what type of apt files should i use
[09:33] <mitsuhiko> hiho
[09:33] <ricky43> farruinn, yes but then it asks for the root password
[09:33] <mitsuhiko> any hoary hedgehog user here?
[09:33] <bluefrog-10> dducko, if u're in breezy u should stop thinking hoary
[09:33] <meho_> _jason: what about burning dvd's or vcd's
[09:33] <coz> odie 5533 why format the thumb drive?
[09:33] <dducko> ok ill try it
[09:33] <brockilyguy21> im new to ubuntu, i usually use suse, but i wanted to try this out
[09:33] <farruinn> ricky43: do you not have root access?
[09:33] <gnomefreak> alexandros: those are missing java libs i think (my memory is shot) so i would install java jre than try the opera install again
[09:33] <athlon> hi guys, do you have any tips on exporting a password-protected pdf to another format ?
[09:34] <ricky43> farruinn, nobody with ubuntu has, your not supposed to. so how the hell am i supposed to be installing these packages :D
[09:34] <mitsuhiko> nobody?
[09:34] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: to install a package you do 'sudo apt-get install <package-name>' at the terminal or use Synaptic (Applications>Add Software)
[09:34] <bluefrog-10> ricky43, sudo
[09:34] <brockilyguy21> ok
[09:34] <coz> get the password
[09:34] <farruinn> ricky43: use sudo: 'sudo dpkg -i <filename>'
[09:34] <brockilyguy21> what type of file should i use
[09:34] <_jason> meho_:  you can do that, but I haven't done it so I don't know... ask again in the chat without my name and someone else can probably help
[09:34] <farruinn> ricky43: and when it asks for your password give your _user_ pass
[09:34] <brockilyguy21> .tar.gz, .tgz, .bin, .rpm etc...?
[09:34] <ricky43> bluefrog-10,  farruinn , thankyou very much
[09:34] <lsuactiafner> dducko : also prefer nvidia .run files
[09:34] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: apt will download the files for you
[09:35] <brockilyguy21> what about for stuff that it doesnt have as an option like games
[09:35] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: taht's the beauty of apt - it knows where to get the files and will install everything necessary for you to run that package
[09:35] <odie5533> Is there anyway to format a USB Flash Drive?
[09:35] <brockilyguy21> ok
[09:35] <brockilyguy21> thanks
[09:35] <coz> odie 5533 why format it?
[09:35] <iiiears> Hello Seveas, Amaranth, cafuego :)
[09:35] <ricky43> synaptic really should be able to install .deb files for you by now ffs. :P thanks people
[09:35] <dducko> i have the run file
[09:35] <Enlite> which php package gives me the ability to use php at the command line?
[09:35] <iiiears> lol
[09:36] <ricky43> are there any other repositories besides Universe which i should be using?
[09:36] <Seveas> php5-cli
[09:36] <rexykik> anyone have experience in booting thin clients with ltsp?
[09:36] <lsuactiafner> odie5533 : depends to what file system format
[09:36] <rexykik> anyone have experience in booting thin clients with ltsp?
[09:36] <coz> ODIE 5533 why format the thumb drive??
[09:36] <Enlite> Seveas: thanks
[09:36] <farruinn> ricky43: no, mixing repositories is generally not a good idea
[09:36] <_jason> meho_:  be sure to read help.ubuntu.com, specifically http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installgnomebaker
[09:36] <dducko> it wont finish because the kernel is compiled with gcc 3.4 and gcc 4 is what it is set to use
[09:36] <odie5533> I don't know the format. How can I find out?
[09:36] <farruinn> ricky43: if there's a package you can't find, you may have to enable universe or multiverse
[09:36] <coz> ODIE5533 the thum drives are general in FAT
[09:36] <lsuactiafner> odie5533 : do you want to format it or determine its format?
[09:37] <odie5533> The System > Administration > Disks thing won't start for me...
[09:37] <coz> that way they are cross platform
[09:37] <dducko> short of uninstalling gcc 4 is there anyway to make it look to gcc 3.4
[09:37] <odie5533> lsuactiafner, both
[09:37] <ricky43> farruinn, yes i understand. is Universe ok to use? and i meant further ubuntu repositories, i've seen something about Multiverse, but that appears to be for the previous version?
[09:37] <root____1> test
[09:37] <Ninjew> dducko: Use update-alternatives to switch to default compiler to GCC 3.4
[09:37] <coz> there really is no need to format them unless they have become corrup somehow
[09:37] <root____1> What the hell happened to my nick -.-
[09:37] <dducko> thank you
[09:37] <sorush20> i was laying eggs this morning do you think I have bird flu?
[09:37] <coz> if you have a windows machine format them in FAT
[09:37] <coz> not FAT32
[09:37] <metalsand> woot.
[09:37] <linkd> no. ur just a smart chicken sorush20
[09:37] <farruinn> ricky43: yes, universe is generally safe
[09:37] <njan> sorush20, moreover, I think you could quite possibly just be a bird :P
[09:37] <ricky43> anybody want to tell me what i need to install for the java vm ,ie the jre equivalent. i installed sable, but it doesn't seem to work with firefox
[09:38] <ricky43> farruinn, cheers!
[09:38] <jenda> dducko: Is this about the NVIDIA driver? could you summarize the problem? I might be able to help
[09:38] <coz> sudo apt-get
[09:38] <lsuactiafner> odie5533 : dont know the gui trick, but mount /dev/sdX /mnt      where X is a b c or whatever the device is called, insert it and wait 1 minute, then run dmesg and it should tell you what X is
[09:38] <jenda> dducko: solved, i see
[09:38] <linuxboy> I'm trying to add a cdrom as an apt source, but it fails. and ideas?
[09:38] <odie5533> lsuactiafner, how do I know what x is?
[09:39] <odie5533> its on /dev/sda
[09:39] <bluefrog-10> linuxboy, what fails?
[09:39] <coz> you might have to put the cdrom into your sources list I am not sure
[09:39] <odie5533> type vfat.... is vfat stable?
[09:39] <linuxboy> bluefrog-10: it was an /etc/fstab problem ;)
[09:39] <Seveas> odie5533, yes
[09:39] <odie5533> more stable than ntfs or ext3?
[09:40] <ricky43> i am a quilified MCSE I AM A KNOW ALL
[09:40] <coz> fat is cross platform odie window/mac/linux can read the same drive in fat
[09:40] <iiiears> lol banned?
[09:41] <tristanmike> lol, that's what happens to mcse's in here. haha
[09:41] <dmlinux> ok so i just rebooted after i apt-get kubuntu-desktop and it loads gnome..,
[09:41] <dmlinux> helop
[09:41] <godmatrix> whats up people
[09:41] <kingtight> can some one pastebin me the sources.list that comes with ubuntu 5.04?
[09:41] <Seveas> !sources
[09:41] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[09:41] <Amaranth> dmlinux: in gdm (login screen) choose the session option
[09:41] <Seveas> ^-- kingtight
[09:41] <JohannesTai> hello people
[09:41] <godmatrix> anyone in here famiiar with openvpn?
[09:41] <godmatrix> for linux
[09:41] <dmlinux> amaranth o
[09:41] <odie5533> Seveas, can you send me a link to the CoC? I don't want to get banned like that :S
[09:41] <farruinn> what's MCSE?
[09:41] <brockilyguy21> i need help, how do i add files to the add programs in Synaptic Package Manger
[09:41] <Seveas> !coc
[09:41] <ubotu> from memory, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[09:41] <rexykik> anyone have experience in booting thin clients with ltsp?
[09:41] <JohannesTai> I need help on getting WMV-videos working on Ubuntu 5.10
[09:41] <godmatrix> anyone familiar with OpenVPN for linux -ubuntu?
[09:41] <NoUse> farruinn Microsot Certified System Engineer
[09:42] <budgester> MineSweeper Consultant Solitaire Expert = MCSE
[09:42] <odie5533> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCSE
[09:42] <kingtight> i love bots and ty
[09:42] <NoUse> budgester haha
[09:42] <gnomefreak> i hate that word :(
[09:42] <_jason> JohannesTai:  have you isntalled the w32codecs?
[09:42] <brockilyguy21> i need help, how do i add files to the add programs in Synaptic Package Manger
[09:42] <JohannesTai> I didn't fing them either on Synaptic or with apt-get
[09:42] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, what's your pb?
[09:42] <coz> Johannes Tai do you have your dvds and other video working ?
[09:42] <to2> hi ..
[09:42] <rexykik> ubuntu.
[09:42] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: which package are you trying to install specifically?
[09:42] <rexykik> pb...problem?
[09:42] <_jason> !tell JohannesTai about w32codecs
[09:42] <gnomefreak> brockilyguy21, are you tryign to install from synaptic or put files into synaptic?
[09:43] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, yes
[09:43] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: I don't understand what you mean by "add files" - you shouuldn't need to add files
[09:43] <brockilyguy21> stuff i download and gimp perl
[09:43] <godmatrix> I guess no one is familar with openvpn for linux
[09:43] <brockilyguy21> like download them and install them
[09:43] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: don't download source or tarballs or anything like that.  use apt
[09:43] <JohannesTai> can't say on dvd, since I don't have dvd-player, but other videos I tried work well
[09:43] <kingtight> !universe multiverse
[09:43] <ubotu> kingtight: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:43] <Seveas> brockilyguy21, that's not how you install things on ubuntu
[09:43] <rexykik> problem is that it will boot pxe from the server but i'm thinking that it doesnt load X from an X server. It is seeming to create an X session locally rather than remotely (i get xdm, but when i log in it just kills my x session before starting a new one automatically)
[09:43] <brockilyguy21> how can i download stuff that they dont have as an option then
[09:43] <linkd> thats not a parse error, thats a syntax error
[09:43] <_jason> JohannesTai:  read what ubotu sent you for the codecs
[09:43] <Seveas> brockilyguy21, enable universe
[09:43] <Seveas> that has all you need and more
[09:44] <Seveas> !tell brockilyguy21 about repos
[09:44] <gnomefreak> !sources      kingtight
[09:44] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you on ritalin?
[09:44] <coz> johannestai gedit /etc/sources.list
[09:44] <godmatrix> brock.. download files?  untar.gz is that what you mean
[09:44] <JohannesTai> _jason, thanks
[09:44] <brockilyguy21> yea
[09:44] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, what ltsp did u install on breezy?
[09:44] <godmatrix> so you want to run something.. that is tar
[09:44] <budgester> or even sudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[09:44] <brockilyguy21> yes
[09:44] <rexykik> i think it was called 'ltsp-standalone-general'
[09:44] <godmatrix> [filename] .tar.gz
[09:44] <godmatrix> right
[09:44] <brockilyguy21> yup
[09:44] <godmatrix> ok
[09:44] <godmatrix> simple
[09:45] <brockilyguy21> and i tried compiling and the make file stuff
[09:45] <rexykik> there is a wiki for booting clients...i've already set up NAT.
[09:45] <godmatrix> you using ubuntu
[09:45] <brockilyguy21> yup
[09:45] <godmatrix> did you untar.gz already
[09:45] <brockilyguy21> yes
[09:45] <rexykik> brockilyguy21, did you install the program's dependencies before trying to install the program itself?
[09:45] <budgester> or even tar -zvf file.tar.gz
[09:45] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, if u don't use edubuntu u 'd be better off installing normal ltsp not standalone
[09:45] <budgester> or even tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[09:45] <JohannesTai> budgester, what should I add there? and there's a problem installing tarballs, since I have no clue on how to :P
[09:45] <rexykik> i used edbuntu
[09:45] <brockilyguy21> no
[09:45] <rexykik> in which case should i be in #edbuntu?
[09:45] <brockilyguy21> they wont install either
[09:46] <iiiears> How do i add  (module?) radio.  /dev/radio   ?
[09:46] <jonny> hey I would like to UNinstall kubuntu desktop on breezy
[09:46] <coz> johannesaaaaaTai first you need to get rid of toten gstreamer
[09:46] <mnirr> can i use debian packages (.deb) on ubuntu?
[09:46] <to2> someone has a hint how to leave the automatically 'update' the red button in the gnome-panel if i don't want the specially files ...?
[09:46] <farruinn> brockilyguy21: I don't know why you're trying to install from source - apt does all the work for you. You're making more work for yourself
[09:46] <JohannesTai> ah, that file is .deb
[09:46] <coz> and instal totem-xine
[09:46] <godmatrix> I know... my openvpn is hitting the same problem.. then I had to restart
[09:46] <rexykik> mnirr: sudo dpkg <filename>.deb
[09:46] <brockilyguy21> nvm, i will just get a book for Debian
[09:46] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, u could :). i can give u complete setup for ltsp on normal breezy as well
[09:46] <rempresent> how to i mount my fat32 harddrive from the terminal
[09:46] <_jason> JohannesTai:  dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:46] <rexykik> i've done ltsp before
[09:46] <rexykik> i'm on a server now
[09:46] <rexykik> some setting is wrong though.
[09:46] <budgester> ltsp is fun
[09:47] <rexykik> i'll try edbuntu
[09:47] <civi> damn it, ubuntu installation hanged my PC again
[09:47] <civi> now from normal cd
[09:47] <gnomefreak> farruinn, apt-get only works if the program is in the sources that you have enabled
[09:47] <civi> not dvd
[09:47] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, hang on try...
[09:47] <JohannesTai> _jason, thank you again :)
[09:47] <rexykik> yeah so edbuntu totally isnt a channel
[09:47] <_jason> JohannesTai:  np
[09:47] <iiiears> rempresent - check out this script winmac_fstab ubotu has the link
[09:47] <gnomefreak> rexykik,  try #edubuntu
[09:47] <farruinn> gnomefreak: yes, and there additional ubuntu sources that aren't enabled by default (which he probably hasn't enabled)
[09:47] <iiiears> !ntfs
[09:47] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:47] <rexykik> ahh
[09:47] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, sudo rm /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts if you have that on your server..
[09:47] <rempresent> thanks
[09:47] <gnomefreak> farruinn, yes uni and multi uni
[09:48] <mirak> what's a twat ?
[09:48] <budgester> the guys in the #ltsp channel are really good, and jim the main dev hangs out in there as well
[09:48] <linuxboy> is there a doc/wikipage on managing lots of ubuntu PCs? Or should I start one?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> mirak, thats just a bit off topic?
[09:48] <StarKruzr> yes
[09:48] <odie5533> mirak: female genitilia, and lets end it at that
[09:48] <Ralth> ! need help when you get a chance -- having problems installing ubuntu.
[09:48] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Ralth
[09:48] <StarKruzr> take it to #ubuntu-sex, please
[09:48] <mirak> gnomefreak: they called me a twat
[09:48] <mirak> lol
[09:48] <mirak> I am kidding
[09:48] <jonny> can I uninstall kubuntu deskto on breezy?
[09:48] <StarKruzr> LOL
[09:49] <mirak> odie5533: oh like pussy you mean ?
[09:49] <StarKruzr> SOMEONE REGISTERED #UBUNTU-SEX
[09:49] <Seveas> jonny, sure
[09:49] <odie5533> jonny: yes
[09:49] <jonny> how
[09:49] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, and then sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys. it's an edubuntu bug but i think that'sur pb as well with the standalone
[09:49] <gnomefreak> jonny: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <Seveas> StarKruzr, drop the caps
[09:49] <odie5533> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <jonny> I said uninstall
[09:49] <gnomefreak> oops uninstall
[09:49] <gnomefreak> sorry
[09:49] <jonny> no prob
[09:49] <rexykik> i'll give it a try
[09:49] <gnomefreak> instead of install put remove
[09:49] <StFS> should I use LVM? I'm setting up Kubuntu on a Dell D810 with a 80Gb SATA HD
[09:49] <odie5533> johnny: man apt-get
[09:49] <jonny> ok
[09:50] <Seveas> StarKruzr, there is no purpose in shouting...
[09:50] <beruic> Is it normal that when I update from Hoary to Breezy, a message is shown when I reload the sources that a lot of things can't be updated???
[09:50] <bobbyd> does the livecd include lspci? and can I boot to a command line?
[09:50] <StarKruzr> Seveas: it expresses enthusiasm!
[09:50] <odie5533> Is vFat more stable than Ext3?
[09:50] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, but tit might be xdm causing u pb. u should stick with gdm
[09:50] <iiiears> bobbyd - yes
[09:50] <gnomefreak> beruic, disable the backports
[09:50] <beruic> What?
[09:50] <rexykik> bluefrog-10, know how to set it to boot to gdm instead of xdm?
[09:50] <beruic> What is that?
[09:50] <StarKruzr> odie more "stable?"  what do you mean?
[09:51] <budgester> rex: apt-get install gdm, followed by apt-get remove xdm
[09:51] <gnomefreak> beruic, paste your errors on pastebin adn we will look at the errors
[09:51] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, have u installed xdm?
[09:51] <rexykik> i believe so
[09:51] <beruic> 2 sec...
[09:51] <gnomefreak> beruic, ok
[09:51] <bobbyd> iiiears, how do i boot to a command line
[09:51] <beruic> Pastebin, What is that?
[09:52] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, if u don't recall installing it i bet it's not installed
[09:52] <_jason> !pastebin
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:52] <rexykik> yeah?
[09:52] <jonny> and does "sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop" work?
[09:52] <rexykik> well then no
[09:52] <gnomefreak> ty _jason
[09:52] <StFS> can anyone tell me what this LVM (Large Volume Manager) actually does? Should I use that option or the one that doesn't have that when setting up Kubuntu?
[09:52] <beruic> thx
[09:52] <Ralth> OK. I will just go ahead and ask..... When I try to install, it freezes up with a message of "Loading module 'ide-cd' for 'Linux ATAPI CD-ROM'..."  Any idea what is wrong or how to fix it?
[09:52] <civi> shit, now installation hange in moment where its downloading additional langs
[09:52] <webtoe> bobbyd, you mean everytime? or just this once?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> jonny should work
[09:52] <civi> is it close to installation finish ?
[09:52] <iiiears> bobbyd -  i think you can always get one after booting by using CTRL+ALT+F2 - is that helpful?
[09:52] <budgester> rex: you also need xdmcp (?) available in gdm/xdm otherwise the it won't allow you to connect
[09:52] <puff> Every nwo and then it seems that my up/down arrorws and pageup/pagedown stop working in firefox.
[09:52] <bobbyd> webtoe, just once
[09:52] <Seveas> StFS, LVM combines several physical disks into one logical disk
[09:52] <puff> Thoguh the mouse scorll-wheel still works.
[09:52] <StarKruzr> StFS: you probably won't hurt anything by using it.  it allows you to easily reallocate partitions, among other things
[09:52] <rexykik> budgester, ahhh
[09:52] <jonny> ok, thats easier for me (12 year old) to use, correct, gnomefreak
[09:52] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, so try the ssh trick. if not working afterwards, install normal ltsp instead of standalone
[09:53] <jonny> ?
[09:53] <StFS> StarKruzr, Seveas: ok... thanks
[09:53] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, working fine
[09:53] <rexykik> bluefrog-10, i'm attempting bootage now
[09:53] <webtoe> bobbyd, year iiiears is right. ctrl-alt-F2 will do it. Then use alt-F7 to get back to the desktop
[09:53] <gnomefreak> jonny i cant remember if its in the sources (edubuntu-desktop)
[09:53] <StarKruzr> isn't that a COPPA violation?
[09:53] <bobbyd> webtoe, I just wanted to boot to the command line instead of booting X
[09:53] <jonny> is there any downsides as apposed to breezy?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> jonny: ive never used edubuntu
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> ok ive never ever before ran an ubuntu kernel but now ive upgraded to gcc4/breezy and need a gcc4 kernel.. how do i install the kernel
[09:54] <StarKruzr> (not that I would ever discourage a 12 year old from using open source software)
[09:54] <kingtight> ty Seveas & gnomefreak
[09:54] <civi> maybe anyone know why installation of amd64 ubuntu hangs in random place ?
[09:54] <webtoe> bobbyd, to boot to the command line without X running you need to change your run level
[09:54] <StarKruzr> jonny: edubuntu IS breezy, just like kubuntu is breezy too
[09:54] <JohannesTai> _jason, I tried that command, but it says it needs superuser privilege
[09:54] <StarKruzr> "breezy" is just the revision of the packages in the distro
[09:54] <_jason> !tell JohannesTai about sudo
[09:54] <jonny> but if i try i can do "sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-desktop" correct, gnomefreak?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> StarKruzr, dont forget about xubuntu :)
[09:55] <StarKruzr> gnomefreak: that too :)
[09:55] <kingtight> my sources.list is all gold now
[09:55] <_jason> JohannesTai:  just use: "sudo" in front of it but read about it in the link that ubotu sent you
[09:55] <gnomefreak> to install it type sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <StarKruzr> it must be hard to download gold into your computer
[09:55] <jonny> if i dont like it that is
[09:55] <bobbyd> webtoe, how do I do that?
[09:55] <StarKruzr> I'm not sure if it would fit into the wires
[09:55] <iiiears> StarKruzr - uses "Alchemy 2.0" - grin
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> what package is the kernel called?
[09:56] <StarKruzr> oy :)
[09:56] <gnomefreak> jonny: sudo apt-get remove is used to remove programs sudo apt-get install is used to install programs sudo apt-get upgrade is to update programs
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> for breezy amd64
[09:56] <rexykik> budgester: you know how to make xdmcp available in gdm/xdm for ltsp?
[09:56] <webtoe> bobbyd, if you just want to do it temporarily. Type ctrl-alt-F2 to get to the command line, then type telinit 1. that will put you in single user mode
[09:56] <webtoe> bobbyd, you'll need to use sudo telinit 1 actually
[09:57] <gnomefreak> beruic, your welcome and please dont pm me without asking first
[09:58] <beruic> k
[09:58] <civi> lsuactiafner: one question... you didnt expects system hangs during the installation of ubuntu amd64 ?
[09:59] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, change /etc/gdm/gdm.conf with XDMCP enable=true
[09:59] <bobbyd> webtoe, thanks
[09:59] <lsuactiafner> civi : i installed breezy and only upgraded from here..
[09:59] <budgester> rexykik: should be in the config file of gdm
[09:59] <JohannesTai> _jason, works now, so great big bundle of thanks and happiness to you :)
[09:59] <lsuactiafner> err installed hoary
[09:59] <_jason> JohannesTai:  your welcome
[09:59] <jonny> when I do "sudo apt-get upgrade" I get this: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3663
[10:00] <rexykik> woah...i dont think i have gdm installed either
[10:00] <rexykik> gdm.conf doesnt exist
[10:00] <gnomefreak> jonny: you used sudo?
[10:00] <budgester> apt-get gdm
[10:00] <Seveas> jonny, double check that you use sudo
[10:00] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, have u installed ubuntu server only?
[10:01] <jonny> no I did not! sorry to waste your time
[10:01] <kingtight> how so i install this http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[10:01] <rexykik> bluefrog-10, yeah. and openssh server
[10:01] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, sad :)
[10:01] <gnomefreak> jonny: not a waste here to help
[10:01] <rexykik> :)
[10:01] <rexykik> its a test project
[10:01] <rexykik> might be installing something remotely in turkey
[10:01] <Neurosis> Hello
[10:01] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, install from normal ubuntu. u'll get less pb
[10:02] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, hello
[10:02] <jonny> now i get this!
[10:02] <budgester> rexykik: you might want to try reading through the docs on the ltsp site or try k12ltsp
[10:02] <gnomefreak> lol jonny
[10:02] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, or at least now do an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:02] <Neurosis> I just got my pack of Ubuntu cds yesterday.
[10:02] <jonny> oh nevermind, yet another error
[10:02] <jonny> hold on
[10:02] <rexykik> eh...i feel a bit swarmed now. why ubuntu desktop?
[10:02] <budgester> rexykik: I know k12ltsp works real well, I had 200 machines running of it at a school i admin at
[10:02] <_jason> Neurosis:  when did you order?
[10:02] <jonny> ill give it to you
[10:02] <rexykik> i mean...i have KDE...i installed full edubuntu
[10:03] <bluefrog-10> budgester, no need to go K12, ltsp working fine on breezy
[10:03] <jonny> here: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3664
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Seveas, is there a way to take my ubuntu system as is and burn it to be installable with all the programs on it now?
[10:03] <Neurosis> A while back
[10:03] <Neurosis> Iv only tried the live cds so far
[10:03] <Seveas> gnomefreak, dpkg --get-selections will help :0
[10:03] <gnomefreak> jonny: do you have synaptic open?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> ty Seveas
[10:03] <budgester> bluefrog-10: fair one been a while since I used it, but I know k12 just loads up straight away and does all the config
[10:03] <jonny> no, I did have another terminal open though
[10:04] <StarKruzr> so guys, how do I change my system - permanently - to statically configure its IP address instead of using DHCP?
[10:04] <budgester> bluefrog-10: even my nan could do it :-)
[10:04] <rexykik> budgester: yeah i know...i'm doing this for my company; we install ltsp on a regular basis
[10:04] <gnomefreak> jonny close one terminal and try it again
[10:04] <bluefrog-10> budgester, i know. been using it long enough. i just can' stand how slow is gnome desktop on FC
[10:04] <jonny> ok i will when Im finished with the other one
[10:04] <budgester> bluefrog-10: tell it like it is brother
[10:05] <rexykik> FC=:(
[10:05] <jonny> how is breezy better than hoary?
[10:05] <iiiears> Does    chmod 666 /dev/video0   sound like a good idea?
[10:05] <Neurosis> Can i mount my NTFS drive with Ubuntu?
[10:05] <Camper_Jo> yepp
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Seveas, omfg what was that? ok wait i know what that was is there a way to burn it all together tho?
[10:05] <budgester> iiiears: depends what your trying to do
[10:05] <Seveas> gnomefreak, not that i know od
[10:05] <Camper_Jo> why isnt there a netinstall for ubuntu.. that would have been superb
[10:06] <gnomefreak> jonny: breezy has newer versions of programs and some other programs that hoary didnt have
[10:06] <gnomefreak> ok ty Seveas
[10:06] <jonny> oh
[10:06] <iiiears> Neurosis - Welcome to Ubuntu! :)  - check out the link and especially the winmac_fstab.sh script you can learn some nice tricks from it. - i did
[10:06] <ncp> is there a special way i have to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu 5.10 64bits? i get this error when i change my xorg.conf to nvidia " Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found " an not sure how to fix it
[10:06] <iiiears> !ntfs
[10:06] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:06] <StarKruzr> Camper_Jo: you can netinstall ubuntu using a Debian CD
[10:06] <jonny> i didnt notice much difference between the 2, is breezy more stable?
[10:07] <iiiears> budgester - "Device available to root" - is what i have know.
[10:07] <Neurosis> Where is the link iiiears?
[10:07] <jonny> oh, actually, come to think of it, I never had hoary, just warty, before breezy!
[10:07] <Camper_Jo> starkruzr : really, cool, any hints on where I can read more about that, or can you give me some quick tips on howto?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> jonny: that im not sure of but i havent had a problem with either that i would concider unstable
[10:07] <ncp> !nvidia
[10:07] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:07] <Neurosis> i got it
[10:07] <Neurosis> Thank you much.
[10:07] <iiiears> budgester - you'll look at it? - AH great! - give me a second :)
[10:07] <Camper_Jo> I am already downloading the debian netinstall cd
[10:07] <jonny> is it more stable than XP? gnomefreak
[10:08] <gnomefreak> jonny: linux in general is more stable than xp
[10:08] <budgester> jonny: does the pope wear a funny hat ?
[10:08] <jonny> I like it better because every day you face a new problem and its fun to solve them
[10:08] <Neurosis> Also, id like to know if there is ways i can save my last settings on ubuntu live cds?
[10:08] <budgester> jonny: yer learning is fun
[10:08] <Camper_Jo> jonny: and you dont have defragmentation problems.. windows is a "format every 3 months" OS...
[10:08] <gnomefreak> jonny out side of winME xp is the most unstable version
[10:09] <budgester> gnomefreak: didn't use 3.1 much then did ya :-)
[10:09] <ncp> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found << get this error when i have installede the nvidia driver on my ubuntu 5.10 64bits... the nvidia logo comes up, an then this error. any idea on how to fix it?
[10:09] <jonny> is it? I figured like 3.1 or something like that would be!
[10:09] <gnomefreak> Camper_Jo, i dont remember ever seeeing anything about defrag in linux until the oteher day lol
[10:09] <gnomefreak> budgester, nope never
[10:09] <Camper_Jo> :)
[10:10] <budgester> gnomefreak: your a lucky man, the most stable system i ever used was OS/400 but thats cos no one wanted to use it
[10:10] <Neurosis> When i go to install Ubuntu, will it automaticaly set partitions or should i clean all my partitions before starting?
[10:10] <bluefrog-10> Neurosis, u will be able to partition as u want during the install
[10:11] <budgester> Neurosis: it gives you the option of blatting your HD if you want
[10:11] <gnomefreak> jonny: think about this linux=1 maybe 2 viruses (that attack email only) windows=millions of them that attack your file system :) better choice is??
[10:11] <jonny> yah
[10:11] <budgester> blat = wipe = clean =re-format
[10:11] <gnomefreak> lol budgester
[10:11] <Neurosis> Alright.
[10:11] <Neurosis> Good help.
[10:11] <gnomefreak> is the new java os linux?
[10:12] <theine> gnomefreak, new java os?
[10:12] <budgester> gnomefreak: which java os would that be
[10:12] <Neurosis> i got shipped like 40 cds
[10:12] <Neurosis> hehe
[10:12] <Mike219> can someone here help me with installing a x600 graphics card?
[10:12] <gnomefreak> :( ok tell me im not crazy
[10:12] <gnomefreak> i gotta find this lol
[10:13] <budgester> gnomefreak: you not crazy, but you are very very wierd ;-)
[10:13] <budgester> gnomefreak: but thats ok cause we still love ya
[10:13] <Pyrotas> #ubuntu-de
[10:13] <gnomefreak> lol budgester
[10:13] <towsonu2003> test (sorry, cgi:irc; never tried before)
[10:14] <iiiears> bugester - lol
[10:14] <bluefrog-10> Neurosis, so that u can have for breakfast during a bit more than a month?
[10:14] <iiiears> budegester  - still willing to take a look?  http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/407021
[10:15] <kingright> where do i get drives for a HP 3520 printer?
[10:15] <budgester> iiiears: whats was you trying to to mate
[10:15] <kingright> for linux
[10:16] <iiiears> budgester - trying to get a video/fm card working. -  no /dev/radio  listed a bit baffled at what is likely obvious to you. ;)
[10:16] <towsonu2003> finally i'm here - nice - hi
[10:16] <rexykik> rex: you also need xdmcp (?) available in gdm/xdm otherwise the it won't allow you to connect
[10:16] <gnomefreak> http://digg.com/software/Java_OS   guys its not an os but this is what i was talking about  i think its made by sun tho
[10:17] <hart> how do i install chinese fonts, trying apt-get install ttf-han but nothing, is han chinese?
[10:17] <KurtKraut> If I let my computer turned on untouched for more than 10h, Xorg gets from 80 to 100% CPU nonstop. I can't use my PC for more than 10h. I reve to reboot to get this solved. I've already pasted with the same machine using WinXP 5 days online with no significant loss of performace.
[10:18] <KurtKraut> Do I have to install WinXP to use my computer for more than 10h ? Why Xorg on Ubuntu gets so much processing ?
[10:18] <HaloGray> Hello.
[10:18] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Are you using the x.org composite extension?
[10:18] <HaloGray> Anybody do anything with hardware RAID support and linux?
[10:19] <HaloGray> Specifically, I'm looking to install Breezy on an nforce3 raid set
[10:19] <budgester> iiiears, and what application are you using to interface with the card ?
[10:19] <HaloGray> Looking for RAID1 support from it.
[10:19] <iiiears> budgester, - gnomeradio, radio and tvtime.
[10:19] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I don't know... how can I check that ?
[10:19] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: If you don't know, you probably aren't
[10:20] <Neurosis> Is Abuntu all in all a good Distrobution for Linux?
[10:20] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I've never changed Xorg settings. I didn't changed any .conf files. So, that means that Ubuntu shouldn't be used for more than 10h ?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, abuntu?
[10:20] <Neurosis> ubuntu
[10:20] <Neurosis> i mean
[10:20] <Neurosis> ;D
[10:21] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: no, something is wrong
[10:21] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, yes its a great distro ask anyone here they will tell u same thing :)
[10:21] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, yes, I bet that ;) Any suggestions ?
[10:21] <EvilGuru> agreed
[10:21] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, really what do you plan on using it for?
[10:21] <towsonu2003> although I posted this to ubuntuforums, I wanted to ask it here as well: my modem (an slmodem, using slmodemd precompiled) is working only in ubuntu, and I did not load the slmodem deamon. Any one has any ideas about this?
[10:21] <Neurosis> Kay, great.  I got a pack of like 30 cds from the netherlands of this distro, lmao!.
[10:21] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: I'm thinking -- what kind of video card do you have
[10:21] <iiiears> budgester - How is radio  added to /dev    so it becomes /dev/radio  ?
[10:22] <Neurosis> Im internested in trying lots of diff distros
[10:22] <budgester> iiiears: and you got it set to use v4l drivers ?
[10:22] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, NVIDIA... GeForce MX 440... a very popular one.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, once you go ubuntu you will never go back to winblows well atleast i didnt :)
[10:22] <bluefrog-10> Neurosis, besides wasting fundation's money, what r u going to do with 40 cds?
[10:22] <iiiears> budgester - yes -  think so how can i make sure?
[10:22] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Do you know if you are using nVidia's proprietary drivers, or the builtin x.org ones
[10:22] <Neurosis> I only use windows for chatting, my other box runs on Gentoo Linux
[10:23] <gnomefreak> my cds havent come yet :(
[10:23] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I've acquired NVIDIA drivers from aptitude
[10:23] <jenda> gnomefreak: neither have mine. 4-6 weeks they say
[10:23] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, when X stats, a logo of NVIDIA appears on the screen
[10:23] <budgester> iiiears: to be honest, its not really my field
[10:23] <Neurosis> Give them out to the school bluefrog-10
[10:23] <gnomefreak> Neurosis,  i can tell you ubuntu is 100% easier to install than gentoo
[10:23] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, when X starts, a logo of NVIDIA appears on the screen
[10:23] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: ok, so you are using the proprietary drivers, hmmm
[10:23] <bluefrog-10> Neurosis, ok then
[10:23] <towsonu2003> gnomefreak: mine either :(
[10:24] <Eddie> hrm
[10:24] <iiiears> budgester - lol - i understand - I appreciate your help though thank you :)
[10:24] <Eddie> I need a little help setting up fetchmail on ubuntu
[10:24] <gnomefreak> jenda: all i remember is i ordered them b4 oct1 im gonna see if you can still check on order
[10:24] <Eddie> basically I want to use pine like the good old days
[10:24] <Neurosis> Is it as easy as Mandrake install? lol
[10:24] <budgester> gnomefreak:thats like saying jumping is easier than flying
[10:24] <gnomefreak> Neurosis, yes
[10:25] <Eddie> Can anyone send me where I can get fetchmailconf for ubuntu
[10:25] <Neurosis> Hehe.
[10:25] <bobbyd> if ubuntu recognises my PCI modem will it automatically be under /dev/modem?
[10:25] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: I'm not sure, then -- video is the first thing that comes to mind, but it could be software - you're using gnome?
[10:25] <Neurosis> I like Ubuntu from what i have done with the live cd.
[10:25] <gnomefreak> budgester,  i had a hell of a time installing gentoo with guide up on one pc and gentoo install on other :(
[10:25] <budgester> iiiears: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24813
[10:25] <grgcsmc> how do i install a .tar.bz2 file?
[10:25] <iiiears> budgester - there isn't a radio (module?) in /dev/radio  - how do i add it?
[10:26] <Neurosis> Problems installing your drivers for it?
[10:26] <jenda> gnomefreak: but they didn't come out till the 13
[10:26] <towsonu2003> bobbyd: you could try sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf to find out where it is...
[10:26] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I'm using XFCE4 at the moment, to get a less worse performance. I if use gnome, the performance gets even worse.
[10:26] <gnomefreak> jenda i know :(
[10:26] <budgester> gnomefreak: why do people put themselves through that pain ?
[10:26] <grgcsmc> how do i install a .tar.bz2 file?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> budgester, i wanted to try it i was in my trying every distro i could download
[10:26] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak:  what about the gentoo install did you have issues with ?
[10:26] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: if you restart XFree, does it go back to normal CPU usage? Or do you have to reboot the whole computer
[10:26] <jenda> gnomefreak: mine are "sent to shiping company"
[10:26] <farruinn> grgcsmc: do you *need* to?
[10:27] <hart> why can't i apt-get install mplayer?
[10:27] <Neurosis> When i install Ubuntu, can i put KDE on it?
[10:27] <iiiears> budgester - Thats perfect. nice link. :)
[10:27] <farruinn> grgcsmc: apt is a better solution unless the software you're looking for is simply unavailable
[10:27] <towsonu2003> KurtKraut: would you advice a newbie coming from windows xp to use xfce?
[10:27] <kent> Neurosis, yes you can.  :) Just install it with synaptic..
[10:27] <bobbyd> towsonu2003, if that detects it does that mean it's supported?
[10:27] <Neurosis> oh so KDE comes in the cd too
[10:27] <grgcsmc> farrunn: its the only format that i can find the gimp version 2.3.4 in
[10:27] <budgester> iiiears: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8949.html looks like you need to prod udev
[10:27] <Neurosis> Good
[10:27] <ks1> is there an easy way to have ubuntu boot to console instead of gdm? like changing default runlevel or does something else  have to be done?
[10:27] <towsonu2003> bobbyd: yes :)
[10:28] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie, the part after the partioning i cant remember what it was exactly
[10:28] <bobbyd> towsonu2003, :)
[10:28] <kent> Neurosis, not sure its on the cd, but it is in the ubuntu archive..
[10:28] <Neurosis> Alright
[10:28] <Neurosis> Thats good
[10:28] <lsuactiafner> KurtKraut : use blackbox or fluxbox
[10:28] <gnomefreak> jenda: mine too
[10:28] <farruinn> grgcsmc: is there a feature in 2.3 you need that's not available in the breezy version?
[10:28] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak, : determining which filesys to use or extracting stage3 tarball ?
[10:28] <budgester> iiiears: google is your friend :-)
[10:28] <jonny> when I do "sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-desktop" This is at the end, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3665
[10:28] <iiiears> budgester - spend any time here and i cannot help but learn something. "udev"???
[10:28] <grgcsmc> farruinn: yes
[10:28] <KurtKraut> lsuactiafner, do I have to use blackbox or fluxbox for a 2.4ghz processor and 256mb DDR for RAM !?
[10:28] <towsonu2003> Neurosis: you could try kubuntu (kde ubuntu)
[10:28] <gnomefreak> extracting stage tarball was it
[10:29] <selinium> towsonu2003, why use xfce? It is a front end for older machines?
[10:29] <ks1> is there an easy way to have ubuntu boot to console instead of gdm? like changing default runlevel or does something else  have to be done?
[10:29] <Neurosis> I never got cds on Kubuntu
[10:29] <grgcsmc> farruinn: how would i install it?
[10:29] <budgester> iiiears: userland automatic device configuration i believe
[10:29] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak, : well i am assuming your done with gentoo eeh ?
[10:29] <iiiears> budgester - It sure is. and linux users are a helpful bunch.
[10:29] <Neurosis> I love Gentoo
[10:29] <KurtKraut> towsonu2003, no, never... but my problem is, even with gnome or XFCE, after 10h turned on, my Xorg processes uses 100% of CPU.
[10:29] <kent> ks1, /etc/inittab
[10:29] <KurtKraut> I'm getting very upset with Ubuntu because of that.
[10:29] <ks1> kent change it to 4 instead of 2.
[10:29] <towsonu2003> selinium: yes, my mom has an old computer...
[10:29] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie, i might try it again but the guide was very lil help when it got to that part and #gentoo was 0 help there
[10:30] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Does restarting X fix the problem? OR is it just rebooting the entire machine
[10:30] <jonny> when I do "sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-desktop" This is at the end, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3665
[10:30] <grgcsmc> farruinn: how would i install it?
[10:30] <iiiears> budgester - Thanks much  ;)
[10:30] <farruinn> grgcsmc: you need to unarchive it: tar -xvj <filename>, then enter the directory and follow the instructions in INSTALL and README
[10:30] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: actually the gentoo installation guide is pretty helpful if you do everything exactly the guide sez everything should run smooth except perhapt the kernel config
[10:30] <budgester> iiiears: your welcome
[10:30] <Neurosis> Im going to install Ubuntu to my machine today.
[10:30] <thirso> Can anybody tell me how do i fix my usplash?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> jonny: breezy doesnt have backports
[10:30] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, to check that, I have to press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, right ? I'm downloading some stuff at the moment. The downloads will be lost if I do that ?
[10:30] <selinium> towsonu2003, but if it can run xp it will run gnome or KDE (gnome is my pref) but if it can't then use xfce. I use gnome on a athlon 900 128k ram
[10:30] <grgcsmc> thx
[10:31] <Gentoo_Junkie> anyone know how to setup neomagic cards with opengl ?
[10:31] <jonny> how can I remove edubuntu?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie, the tarball part said to type "soandso" and i wasnt sure if they meant word for word or if i had to put something in there
[10:31] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: yes, they will, but that will restart X
[10:31] <budgester> Kurt: yup your downloads will die
[10:31] <gnomefreak> jonny: is it installed?
[10:31] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I will do it now. Just hold a sec.
[10:31] <jonny> yup
[10:31] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: tar xvjpf stage3-verison- should of done it
[10:31] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Either way, if X continues to use 100% CPU after doing that, perhaps you have a kernel / hardware problem - has this happened in other linux distros?
[10:31] <thirso> where can i download a image for usplash?
[10:32] <Camper_Jo> oh yeah.. about the xorg 7.0 modular rc1, does it exist for ubuntu?
[10:32] <Rawplayer> re
[10:32] <jonny> i dont like it
[10:32] <budgester> KurtKraut: for downloads try wget and background it
[10:32] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie,  the version threw me
[10:32] <jonny> (as much)
[10:32] <budgester> then you can restart X a will
[10:32] <Eddie> im having trouble listening to www.queensradio.org on rhythmbox
[10:32] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: i would suggest dl'ing the latest tarball for both stage3 and the portage tree.
[10:32] <Eddie> is there some kind of plugin I need to install
[10:32] <gnomefreak> jonny: go into you repos and uncheck the the backports repo
[10:32] <budgester> Eddie: you say that like its a bad thing :-)
[10:32] <thirso> Eddie: try with Beep Media Player
[10:32] <jonny> ok
[10:33] <Eddie> budgester, isnt it?
[10:33] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I've restarted X and now the CPU is absolutely free.
[10:33] <Eddie> thirso, can i apt-get it?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie, is that the hardest part of it? or does it get harder?
[10:33] <budgester> Eddie: dunno never listened to it ;-)
[10:33] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, now it is normal. I've I keep this machine running for more 10h, the problem will happen again.
[10:33] <Eddie> budgester, its our university radio server :D so alot of my friends are on it most of the time
[10:33] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: i would have to say for a new gentoo user the kernel config is the hardest part, but once you have done once it gets lots easier since its the same configuration everytime.
[10:33] <towsonu2003> sorry I'm posting again, but maybe someone missed it? : slmodemd working only in ubuntu. why could that be?
[10:34] <farruinn> Eddie: beep is in universe
[10:34] <gnomefreak> Gentoo_Junkie, and im assuming the guide will get me past that?
[10:34] <thirso> Eddie: yeah you can
[10:34] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: it should yes.
[10:34] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: OK, so here is what I would do to troubleshoot this problem: go into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and try changing your video card drivers from 'nvidia' to 'nv'. See if it happens then (note you won't get 3d acceleration under nv, but we can worry about that later)
[10:34] <Gentoo_Junkie> gnomefreak: if not just use the genkernel.
[10:34] <jonny> wich one is the backports repo?
[10:35] <thirso> Eddie: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[10:35] <gnomefreak> gentoo:yes i will give gentoo another try after dinner
[10:35] <LasseL> gnomefreak, I ran gentoo 2,5 years and it was just like having a second job as a sysadmin every time i turned my computer on :(
[10:35] <Neurosis> Good gnomefreak.
[10:35] <gnomefreak> the one that says backports
[10:35] <dm> anyone know what format icon packs have to be in to install them to KDI
[10:35] <Neurosis> tis a good distro
[10:35] <budgester> gnomefreak: with all the compiling you don't just do gentoo after dinner surely
[10:35] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I should do this change and let the PC running for another 10 hours to see if the CPU problem happens again, right ?
[10:35] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Comment out anything that says "composite" in it also, if you see it
[10:35] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Its worth a shot
[10:35] <gnomefreak> budgester,  i know i will start on it after dinner
[10:36] <EvilGuru> gentoo takes a good day
[10:36] <Gentoo_Junkie> shrug once you compile the program once you can use the older version until the new version is done compiling.
[10:36] <EvilGuru> ubuntu a good hour
[10:36] <budgester> gnomefreak: and finish compiling sometime next year
[10:36] <jonny> wich one is the backports repo?
[10:36] <Neurosis> Oh hell yeah Evilguru
[10:36] <towsonu2003> could not find in forums either
[10:36] <towsonu2003> another question: I am apt-getting the linux kernel image 686. Should I know anything before I do a reboot? I looked at wiki but nothing.
[10:36] <Gentoo_Junkie> its about how hardcore you wanna be with your linux distro.
[10:36] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, now that I can browse at least, I've found about more than 5 posts on ubuntuforums.org reporting the same problem
[10:36] <El_Che> towsonu2003: nope, pretty straight forward
[10:36] <Gentoo_Junkie> i use ubuntu and gentoo.
[10:36] <gnomefreak> jonny: how did you get into your repos list?
[10:36] <Eddie> the reason I like rhythmbox is its itunes-esque appearance
[10:36] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Also, keep asking around to see if anyone has run into this specific problem -- I had the same problem (except after only a few minutes), but it was when I had composite enabled
[10:36] <kingright> can I update for 5.04 > 5.10
[10:36] <Eddie> it doesnt work the best in the world though
[10:36] <dm> anyone know what format icon packs have to be in to install them??
[10:36] <kingright> From*
[10:36] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: do they say anything useful?
[10:36] <cevizoglu> Gentoo_Junkie, if compiling random junk is hardcore, then we live in a very, very confused world
[10:37] <jonny> synaptic--->settings----->repos
[10:37] <kent> kingright, yes you can.
[10:37] <cevizoglu> Gentoo_Junkie, maybe for people who don't know how to write software
[10:37] <budgester> gentoo is for people not hard core enough to use http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[10:37] <gnomefreak> ok jonny do you see anything that says "backports" in the repo anywhere?
[10:37] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, no. They only describe exactly what is going on with my machine, including the fact that it never happened on Hoary
[10:37] <jonny> no
[10:37] <towsonu2003> El_Che: I'm gonna fall in love with ubuntu if this works :) not compiling kernel? wow ;)
[10:37] <iiiears> towsonu - no problems here for the single processor kernel. desktop
[10:37] <Neurosis> LFS, iv made my own of that waaaay back in the day
[10:37] <civi> 20:40 <@psychopata> no, ja mam koncepcje o zlozonosci dlugosc*szerokosc; powinna sie sprawdzic
[10:37] <kingright> ok what can i find info for it?
[10:37] <ncp> i used gcc-3.4 to install kernel, an also have gcc4.0 now, but when i remove gcc4.0 gcc gets removede to, an need 3.4 to install nvidia driver otherwise it fails when i try with gcc4.0 :( is there an way to go around this problem?
[10:37] <civi> ops, sorry :D
[10:37] <civi> pasted by accident
[10:38] <cevizoglu> Gentoo_Junkie, I prefer to use my cpu cycles compiling my **own** software, not other people's
[10:38] <Gentoo_Junkie> cevizoglu: your right gentoo isn't for everyone.
[10:38] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: hmmm
[10:38] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, there are people reporting this problem using Radeon 7500 insted NVIDIA
[10:38] <jonny> gnomefreak: no
[10:38] <gnomefreak> jonny close synaptic out and give me 2 seconds
[10:38] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: OK scratch that video idea
[10:38] <felyph> ola?
[10:38] <jonny> ok
[10:38] <kingright> how do i update to 5.10 from 5.04?
[10:39] <kent> kingright, bottom of this page.. http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html
[10:39] <cevizoglu> !upgradetobreezy
[10:39] <ubotu> cevizoglu: What?
[10:39] <cevizoglu> oops
[10:39] <budgester> kignright: you mean downgrade ?
[10:39] <kingright> ty kent
[10:39] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: I have no idea, then -- when i had a similar problem, it was related to video ...
[10:39] <cevizoglu> !upgrade2breezy
[10:39] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:39] <gnomefreak> jonny: paste this command into a terminal    sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:40] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, wow... now I found more than 10 posts reporting the same problem. All of them had no good solution.
[10:40] <felyph> hello?
[10:40] <felyph> hello?
[10:40] <farruinn> do you have something to say?
[10:40] <budgester> felyph: goodbye ?
[10:40] <gnomefreak> jonny: after you run that command another screen should open
[10:40] <thirso> which program u guys use to burn cds?
[10:40] <felyph> ok
[10:40] <budgester> k3b for burning
[10:40] <Neurosis> Any Ubuntu users in Canada?
[10:41] <_jason> is there a way to change the way gnome resizes windows?  For example in XP you can make it just show you the outline of the window as you drag and ignore the content.  Default behavior seems to be laggy for me on gnome.
[10:41] <kent> kingright, sorry. That page was wrong.  read the line from ubotu above.
[10:41] <gnomefreak> jonny: paste everything thats in that screen that opened into pastebin
[10:41] <budgester> Neurosis: probably, but are you asking if there are any in here ?
[10:41] <Neurosis> Yeah
[10:41] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: No idea, then... sorry :( I guess keep asking around
[10:41] <towsonu2003> hmm, any from Turkey?
[10:41] <iiiears> thirso - right click will burn most CDs else gnomebaker or with KDE libs (large dowbnload) K3B are the utils
[10:41] <jonny> ok, and btw, when I open synaptic ,this comes up every single time http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3666
[10:41] <jonny> and let me do wat u just said
[10:42] <sw> same question as _jason here :)
[10:42] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I've been doing this for the last days. I will really to uninstall Ubuntu and unrecommend it to my friends
[10:42] <jonny> how can you copy commands in here, gnomefreak ?
[10:42] <kingright> ok ty kent
[10:42] <Eddie> how do i change file associations
[10:42] <iiiears> jonny - pastebin
[10:42] <iiiears> !pastebin
[10:42] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:42] <jonny> no, COPY
[10:42] <gnomefreak> jonny highlight it and press ctrl+c
[10:42] <Eddie> ie make mp3s open in beep-media-player
[10:43] <gnomefreak> assuming your using xchat
[10:43] <jonny> ok
[10:43] <iiiears> highlight then CTRL+C  ?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> iiiears, to copy
[10:43] <budgester> highlight then use middle button to paste
[10:43] <selinium> ubotu tell Eddie about mp3
[10:43] <wotnarg> iiiears: Use x paste
[10:43] <gnomefreak> budgester,  i dont have a middle button :)
[10:43] <budgester> gnomefreak: click both buttons at once
[10:44] <selinium> Eddie, you need the w32codecs :)
[10:44] <selinium> ubotu tell Eddie about w32codecs
[10:44] <Severian> gnomefreak, press both buttons at once to simulate a middle button
[10:44] <Eddie> selinium, I need to change the file associations, the files play fine, I just want the default app to be something else
[10:44] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, "You need to change "nv" to "nvidia" in the line that refers to the driver for your video card.'
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Severian, ty i didnt know that
[10:44] <budgester> or press the wheel if it acts as a middle button
[10:44] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, there are people recommending to do the opposite you told me to do to solve this in the forums ;P
[10:44] <selinium> Eddie: easy right click on the file that you want to change
[10:45] <Eddie> selinium, thanks
[10:45] <budgester> Kurt: what a dilema who do you believe ?
[10:45] <selinium> Eddie: properties
[10:45] <budgester> Us or them ?
[10:46] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: Yeah, that was my original thought, but
[10:46] <jonny> gnome: here you go! http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3667
[10:46] <anygan> hello
[10:46] <KurtKraut> budgester, sorry... are you talking to me ?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> jonny ty brb
[10:46] <jonny> make that gnomefreak
[10:46] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: since you were already running the proprietary nvidia drivers, I figuredthat you should try swithcing back to see if it helped
[10:46] <Gentoo_Junkie> testing
[10:46] <selinium> Eddie: open with, then choose appropriate. if you cant find it go to /usr/bin
[10:46] <budgester> nights kids, gotta do some work
[10:46] <selinium> Eddie: does that make sense?
[10:46] <selinium> :)
[10:47] <gnomefreak> jonny the 3rd part from bottom you need to add a # infront of each of the 2 repos in there its the big part
[10:47] <KurtKraut> Ninjew,         Driver          "nvidia"
[10:47] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, I should replace it by 'nv', right ?
[10:47] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: well, give it a shot
[10:47] <anygan> i would like to open a folder with the konsole but my folder is named "projet antenne" and the konsole don't nderstand composed name how can i do?
[10:47] <jonny> can you paste what it should be and ill just copy it in?
[10:47] <Ninjew> KurtKraut: COmment out any Option lines in that section, too
[10:48] <selinium> KurtKraut, What is the problem?
[10:48] <keyes> hello! Is DMA actived by default with Breezy?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> jonny: this repo just add a # infront of it and the one under it so it looks like this  # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:48] <selinium> Hi Seveas, i am just installing  pbuilder!   :)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> same with one just below it
[10:48] <jonny> i still do not understand, I know im dumb
[10:48] <selinium> keyes nope
[10:48] <ainaker> hi
[10:49] <selinium> keyes, hdparm
[10:49] <ainaker> selinium: pbuilder = powerbuilder?
[10:49] <kingright> do i need the Breezy CD to upgrade?
[10:49] <keyes> ok this is just to know
[10:49] <KurtKraut> selinium, after 10 hours turned on, my Xorg processes uses 100% of CPU constantly.
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ok jonny i will paste the whole thing in pastebin just get rid of what you have in there and place what i paste ok?
[10:49] <keyes> is the bug with amd via and Intel chips with DMA corrected ?
[10:49] <KurtKraut> selinium, it never gets below 80%
[10:49] <jonny> ok, Thank You
[10:49] <NoUse> kingright no you can do it from synaptic
[10:50] <NoUse> !tell kingright about upgrade2breezy
[10:50] <KurtKraut> selinium, more than 10 people are reporting this with different video cards in ubuntuforums but no one got a solution
[10:50] <richie> HELP! I installed firestarter and it screwed my WIRELESS connection. Im chatting to you on my WIRED 100Mbit LAN connection now. I uninstalled firestarter and this has not fixed my connection. How to I get it back as it was?
[10:50] <kingright> so just put in  Distribution: breezy
[10:50] <kingright> and thats it
[10:50] <jonny> kingright https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:50] <selinium> KurtKraut, wow! Has it been reported as a bug?
[10:50] <KurtKraut> selinium, I didn't check it in bugzilla... I will do it
[10:50] <richie> Can anyone help me?
[10:51] <ompaul> richie, use pastebin and put the output of what I request there >> sudo iptables -L <<
[10:51] <selinium> richie: give people a chance! :)
[10:51] <thirso> do i need any extra packages for Rythym to play shoutcast radios?
[10:51] <thirso> nvm
[10:51] <jenda> Speaking of bugs: We all need to fix Bug #1!!!
[10:51] <selinium> hi ompaul :)
[10:52] <ompaul> evening selinium
[10:52] <selinium> jenda indeed!
[10:52] <richie> I disabled the wireless lan so i can talk to u now...
[10:52] <gnomefreak> jonny: here is the revised sources list http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3668   after changing it to this click save than close that window and type sudo apt-get update in terminal
[10:52] <ompaul> jenda, well I work on it every day
[10:52] <jenda> I'm working on it right now... basically all of today
[10:52] <dropper> hi
[10:52] <towsonu2003> jenda: now that's _hard_ ...
[10:52] <dm> Does ANYONE know what a VALID icon theme pack is , so i can install this damn thing !!
[10:52] <selinium> Hi nalioth :)
[10:52] <nalioth> howdy folks
[10:52] <jonny> ok, hold on
[10:52] <kingright> so where ever it has hoary put in breezy even in the URLs right?
[10:53] <thirso> is it worth it for me tu use the K7 kernel? My proc is a Athlon XP
[10:53] <thirso> to*
[10:53] <dropper> how to upgrade hoary to breezy??
[10:53] <Profeta> hey, when I open my firefox on windows, the fonts seems differents, is there a packet on ubuntu to isntall that fonts ?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> jonny: ok let me know of any errors if you get any
[10:53] <psycose> hi, i don't see my boot Grub menu (7 items) on booting, the hiddenmenu is not set,  when i hit ESC nothing appens, any tips (Ubuntu Breezy/i386) ? thanks
[10:53] <jonny> NO ERRORS!
[10:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dropper about breezy
[10:53] <ompaul> richie, I asked you a quesion, I am not worried about how you are connected - if firestarter has anything to do with it that command will tell me, if it does not well so be it :-0
[10:53] <jonny> yes! yes!
[10:53] <ompaul> :-) even
[10:53] <gnomefreak> lol jonny
[10:53] <selinium> psycose: one mo..
[10:53] <spudse> hello
[10:54] <spudse> I just installed x-server and fluxbox on a Ubuntu server installation, but when I "startx" I only see a black screen with nothing running
[10:54] <dropper> nalioth,  : Thanx
[10:54] <dm> Does ANYONE know what a VALID icon theme pack is , so i can install this damn thing !!
[10:54] <gnomefreak> btw jonny my sources list is on my site www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc on the linux tab if you ever need to check on it
[10:54] <richie> heres output of iptables -L http://pastebin.com/407082
[10:54] <richie> k?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> !tell gnomefreak about breezy
[10:55] <dropper> also I'm looking for whats the prefered programming language for ubuntu.. and what IDEs exist??
[10:55] <unforcer> I was just installing dcpp I did apt-get upgrade etc xserver wont start up enymore
[10:55] <jonny> thx
[10:55] <ddajs> hi..... everyone...i have just a question, what is the best msn client?
[10:55] <cowbud> @find dream
[10:55] <farruinn> gnomefreak: you can /msg ubotu
[10:55] <unforcer> ddajs aMSN
[10:55] <gnomefreak> ty farruinn  it just told me that
[10:55] <ddajs> thx
[10:55] <farruinn> :D
[10:55] <gnomefreak> yw jonny
[10:55] <elephanthunter> dropper: STE, Anjuta, Bluefish Editor...
[10:56] <kingright> so i need to change all hoary to  breezy in the SPM?
[10:56] <jenda> Can someone point me to a good New Mail sound? :) Very important
[10:56] <unforcer> ddajs install the cvs
[10:56] <richie> ompaul u there?
[10:56] <ddajs> ok
[10:56] <ompaul> richie, yes
[10:56] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : Thanx
[10:56] <elephanthunter> dropper: ... monodevelop, Glade, Screem
[10:56] <jenda> Anyone?
[10:56] <dropper> nalioth,  : that links not working
[10:56] <huffers> hi, can anyone here play dvds in ubuntu?
[10:56] <unforcer> ddajs ubuntuforum has guide for it use that it event supports webcam's
[10:56] <elephanthunter> those are the ones I have installed
[10:57] <richie> ompaul: see anything wrong with my paste? http://pastebin.com/407082
[10:57] <jenda> huffers: sure
[10:57] <bluefrog-10> huffers, install gxine
[10:57] <huffers> I've tried ogle and mplayer
[10:57] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : is monodevelop in the repositories??
[10:57] <selinium> psycose: pm?
[10:57] <ddajs> thx, enforcer
[10:57] <ddajs> *unforcer sry
[10:57] <huffers> thx bluefrog - I'll give it a try now...
[10:58] <elephanthunter> dropper: I believe so
[10:58] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : whats the bluefish for ?
[10:58] <ompaul> richie, there is nothing stopping that machine left over from Firestarter, there is no firewall in place, I suggest you go through the steps you first undertook to get your card working
[10:58] <dropper> nalioth,  : sorry It is working
[10:58] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : do u use it?
[10:58] <andrei__> Tere
[10:58] <elephanthunter> dropper: Web development
[10:58] <jenda> huffers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:58] <selinium> psycose, hello?
[10:58] <andrei__> On siin eestlasi_
[10:58] <elephanthunter> dropper: yeah, I use it
[10:58] <psycose> selinium yes
[10:58] <jenda> huffers: It's all there
[10:59] <selinium> psycose, pm?
[10:59] <dropper> ah! do you know if php 5 is available on ubuntu
[10:59] <selinium> dropper yep
[10:59] <elephanthunter> yes
[10:59] <richie> ompaul: I installed ubuntu, enabled it and it worked?
[10:59] <psycose> selinium, sorry i don't udestand
[10:59] <jenda> I actually didn't mean that as a joke: I need a good new mail sound!
[10:59] <selinium> psycose private message :)
[10:59] <psycose> ok ;-)
[10:59] <selinium> psycose is it ok if I private message you
[10:59] <psycose> selinium, yes
[10:59] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : hows it compare to the likes of sharpdevelop ? or even VS 2003.. do u know if its on framework 2.0?
[11:00] <elephanthunter> dropper: Are you talking about monodevelop?
[11:00] <Eddie> im having trouble with my windows drive
[11:00] <ompaul> richie, well I don'tknow what you did to break it however try this: System Administration Networking and see if you can enable it there
[11:00] <Eddie> i cant view it as a normal user
[11:00] <towsonu2003> I swear I won't ask again :)  : slmodem only working with ubuntu, anyone has any ideas why? Also, anyone from Turkey?
[11:00] <Eddie> ive added the "user" option to fstab
[11:00] <Eddie> and unmounted and remounted the partition
[11:00] <ompaul> !tell Eddie about ntfs
[11:00] <Eddie> its a fat partition
[11:00] <richie> ompaul: I did enable connection sharing when I installed it
[11:00] <Eddie> deliberately so, as to allow me to share files between windows and linux
[11:00] <richie> ompaul: can this break it?
[11:01] <jackmacokc> can someone tell me how to restart GDM
[11:01] <Eddie> I just need users to have RW access to it
[11:01] <ompaul> richie, my knowledge of wireless is very limited, I asked you to try something which I believe may help you, have you tried that?
[11:01] <Eddie> despite having rw and user in my fstab for that partition
[11:01] <elephanthunter> dropper: The best way atm to use monodevelop is with Glade.
[11:01] <Eddie> I still cant access it
[11:01] <jenda> Come on folks... I need a cool sound for New Mail... I'm desperate can't you see ? Boo hoo
[11:02] <dropper> elephanthunter,
[11:02] <dropper> elephanthunter,  yes
[11:02] <elephanthunter> dropper: It has no native wysiwyg interface
[11:02] <Eddie> Jedrick, search google for gotmail.wav
[11:02] <Eddie> Jedrick, its my favourite, been using it for years
[11:02] <dropper> ok ! so how do I check what version I'm on
[11:02] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : doh!
[11:02] <Severian> Eddie, can you post your entire fstab file in pastebin and give me the url?
[11:02] <haselden> i got mail yaaay
[11:02] <Eddie> ok
[11:02] <jonny> how can I get rid of KDE?
[11:03] <jenda> jonny: sudo rm -rf
[11:03] <Razor-X> anyone here now who uses nbsmtp?
[11:03] <jonny> ok
[11:03] <Razor-X> jenda: don't even joke about that
[11:03] <jenda> jonny: DO NOT DO THAT! JUST KIDDING
[11:03] <Razor-X> jonny: NO
[11:03] <richie> ompaul: thats how I get my internet to break...
[11:03] <nalioth> jenda: not a nice joke
[11:03] <Razor-X> jonny: do NOT type that IN
[11:03] <jenda> Sorry, just realised that it's not a good joke...
[11:03] <trans_err> I'm having a problem while playing quake 4-- the sound is distorted and I get the following error in the console-- I've noticed this error before any ideas? :snd_pcm_writei short write: 940 out of 1024
[11:03] <trans_err>
[11:03] <Eddie> http://pastebin.ca/26784
[11:03] <jenda> jonny? Still alive?
[11:03] <grant_> can anyone please offer me some help updating the kernel????
[11:03] <towsonu2003> jonny: dont do that
[11:04] <Razor-X> we have a quake 4?
[11:04] <jonny> what does that do?
[11:04] <nalioth> Razor-X: it released last week
[11:04] <jenda> jonny: oof
[11:04] <trans_err> grant_: whats the problem?
[11:04] <Razor-X> jonny: it erases everything off your root partition
[11:04] <Razor-X> nalioth: ahhh
[11:04] <jenda> jonny: that deletes everything
[11:04] <jonny> AH!
[11:04] <ompaul> jonny kills all files on the file system
[11:04] <jonny> luckily I mispelled it
[11:04] <Eddie> how bizarre, it thinks its ntfs....
[11:04] <jenda> jonny: It does remove KDE...
[11:04] <grant_> Have installed the 64 bit edition of Ubuntu and have downloaded the latest kernal from Ubuntu HQ
[11:04] <jonny> lol
[11:04] <towsonu2003> jonny: oh he's alive :) good
[11:04] <grant_> but how do I install it
[11:04] <Eddie> well for now at least, can i at least read it
[11:05] <Eddie> ill convert it to fat32 later
[11:05] <Razor-X> jonny: how did you install KDE, or do you use Kubuntu?
[11:05] <Mabus> *poke* Severian?
[11:05] <trans_err> grant_: dpkg -i <package>
[11:05] <ompaul> Jenda, don't go there, not funny in the slightest
[11:05] <nalioth> grant_: if you've used adept, it should install itself
[11:05] <richie> jonny use synaptic
[11:05] <richie> to remove kde
[11:05] <jonny> i installed kubuntu desktop
[11:05] <jonny> i dont like it
[11:05] <grant_> adept????
[11:05] <ompaul> richie, did you go and work with that?
[11:05] <Razor-X> jonny: then simply, ``sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop''
[11:05] <iiiears> Hi nalioth!
[11:05] <richie> installt he gnome packages
[11:05] <nalioth> grant_: you are a kubuntu user, yes?
[11:05] <trans_err> no one has any idea about my sound problem?
[11:05] <nalioth> iiiears: howdy
[11:05] <richie> the*
[11:05] <jonny> ok
[11:05] <Severian> Mabus, howdy.  Sorry Islept through my alarm clock.  What was that other channel we were on?
[11:05] <grant_> ubuntu
[11:05] <jenda> ompaul: Yes yes... I know. I now realise how easy it is to abuse that.
[11:06] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : what type of development do u do ?
[11:06] <towsonu2003> does he have ubuntu-desktop? (jonny)
[11:06] <Eddie> ideally there are two things id like to be able to do by an hours time
[11:06] <nalioth> grant_: sorry, misread some text. if you've used synaptic, it should install itself
[11:06] <Eddie> 1) get fetchmail running
[11:06] <richie> ompaul: what? the wireless still breaks internet when turned on
[11:06] <Mabus> kubuntu-offtopic
[11:06] <Eddie> and 2) watch the x files eps on my windows partition
[11:06] <iiiears> nalioth - i need "radio" in /dev/radio    how is that added?
[11:06] <Eddie> but its been so long
[11:06] <nalioth> iiiears: add it?
[11:06] <Mabus> And Sev don't worry about it, I just woke up too.
[11:06] <Eddie> since ive used linux all my "knowledge" is out of date
[11:06] <Eddie> fetchmailrc has an entirely new syntax
[11:06] <Razor-X> nalioth: you have any idea why nbsmtp works with a mail message saved from mutt, but not from mutt directly?
[11:06] <jenda> Mabus: I'm just going to bed...
[11:06] <nalioth> iiiears: i have no idea, never heard of 'radio' in a linux /dev/
[11:07] <iiiears> nalioth - what are the files listed in /dev called
[11:07] <Eddie> ham radio?
[11:07] <trans_err> iiiears: the appropriate drivers will create the device
[11:07] <nalioth> Razor-X: they dont speak on the same frequency
[11:07] <Razor-X> nalioth: well, I assumed that
[11:07] <Mabus> hi, nalioth
[11:07] <jenda> ompaul: One thing's for sure. I'll never type that publically again.
[11:07] <nalioth> iiiears: i have no clue
[11:07] <jonny> towsonu2003: I installed ubuntu breezy, then KDE, but KDE is autamaticly setting itself as default
[11:07] <KurtKraut> Ninjew, here is my post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=445668&posted=1#post445668
[11:07] <Razor-X> nalioth: but, i'm using the same set ``sendmail="'' string as i'm using to send the normal mail
[11:07] <Razor-X> in my .muttrc
[11:07] <Razor-X> errr
[11:08] <penguinone> hello...
[11:08] <Razor-X> ``set sendmail="''
[11:08] <iiiears> trans_err - thank you :)
[11:08] <Razor-X> penguinone: hey
[11:08] <nalioth> Razor-X: mutts direct output is not to nbsmtp's taste
[11:08] <jonny> cyphase ?
[11:08] <towsonu2003> jenda: you're dangerous :)
[11:08] <pro> anyone know how i can change /etc/sudoers to allow www-data to run /usr/local/bin/mysh with out it asking for a password?
[11:08] <spudse> when I have installed ubuntu server, then x, and then fluxbox. How do I start X with running Fluxbox ?
[11:08] <iiiears> nalioth - thank you. :)
[11:08] <penguinone> i have found a bug..
[11:08] <Razor-X> nalioth: i've seen many people use it with mutt :(, I guess i'm going to have to do some more googling
[11:08] <Severian> jonny, usually, you just logoff.  On the login screen there should be a button called sessions or something similar.  It will let you switch back to gnome.
[11:08] <huffers> ogle, mplayer, and gzine don't play dvds for me :-/
[11:08] <jonny> there is
[11:08] <pro> spudse, echo fluxbox > ~/.xinitrc
[11:08] <huffers> I've looked at loads of forums
[11:09] <jonny> when i do that...
[11:09] <kingright> what is up with thisW: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fHoary%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:09] <kingright> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fHoary%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:09] <kingright> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:09] <huffers> gxine I mean
[11:09] <penguinone> how to send a bug to ubuntu'
[11:09] <jonny> ...it does not ask me if i would like to make that default
[11:09] <towsonu2003> jonny: there is an option to choose  a session type (gnome or else) when logging in to gnome. I'm not sure whether it is also in kde's logging screen (where it asks your pass)
[11:09] <jonny> and it isnt
[11:09] <nalioth> spudse: you need a window manager. install xdm, or gdm or kdm
[11:09] <Mabus> Severian: #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:09] <nalioth> kingright: please dont paste in here
[11:10] <jonny> so i want gnome to be my default
[11:10] <kingright> ok
[11:10] <Razor-X> jonny: if you're using gdm or kdm, you can select the session
[11:10] <African_Assassin> I have 1 small question - what would be the partitioning setup for an ubuntu only setup with single 200gig drive
[11:10] <jonny> where
[11:10] <penguinone> lib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[11:10] <penguinone> Xlib: No protocol specified
[11:10] <penguinone> Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:10] <penguinone>   File "/usr/bin/bluepin", line 39, in ?
[11:10] <penguinone>     import gtk
[11:10] <penguinone>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 37, in ?    from _gtk import *
[11:10] <Razor-X> kingright: you want to use pastebin or #flood for pasting, preferably pastebin
[11:10] <jonny> and what are they
[11:10] <penguinone> RuntimeError: could not open display
[11:10] <jonny> penguinone: do not paste in here
[11:10] <nalioth> NO PASTING! it's written on the sign that meets every one of you when you arrive!
[11:11] <Hendric> OMG.. a helpchan noob
[11:11] <jonny> uncofertable silence
[11:11] <Razor-X> I never knew that
[11:11] <kbrooks> me?
[11:11] <kingright> ok what does this mean http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3670
[11:11] <Razor-X> I just knew the pastebin rule since I came here :P
[11:11] <African_Assassin> yep - thats me
[11:12] <Razor-X> nalioth: any word on my whole op thing?
[11:12] <pro> kingright, put the 2nd disk in
[11:12] <jonny> Razor-x: how can I set GNOME back to my default
[11:12] <jonny> ?
[11:12] <rexykik> anyone know much about doing thin client booting on ltsp? When I boot a terminal I seem to get to xdm on the terminal, but when I logon my x server just restarts, which makes me believe that it is a local X session rather than booting from the X-server of the ltsp server.
[11:12] <Eddie> ok I just took a look around
[11:12] <Hendric> pastebin is not understandable :p
[11:12] <Eddie> root can read the drive perfectly
[11:12] <nalioth> Razor-X: whole op or op whole?
[11:12] <kingright> i only have one disk
[11:12] <Eddie> so its mounted correctly
[11:12] <Razor-X> jonny: are you using gdm? (did you have gnome installed first?)
[11:12] <Eddie> my problem is a permissions problem
[11:12] <nalioth> Razor-X: whichever it is, join -nun for discussion
[11:12] <jenda> towsonu2003: thanx :)
[11:12] <Eddie> I need it to be readable by the user eddie
[11:12] <Razor-X> nalioth: oh yes, thanks
[11:12] <kingright> same fhing
[11:12] <kingright> thing*
[11:12] <jonny> razor-x: yes
[11:13] <jenda> http://ivlad.unixgods.net/lj/linuxisevil.gif
[11:13] <Razor-X> jonny: then you should be able to look through a list of ``sessions''
[11:13] <jenda> Check that out
[11:13] <kingright> il just get thr iso for 5.10
[11:13] <jenda> Get the FUD
[11:13] <psycose> nobody has invisible grub menu problem on boot ? (U breezy/i386)
[11:13] <ompaul> Hendric, yes it is, "Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting"
[11:13] <jenda> errr... FACTS!
[11:14] <spudse> when I have installed ubuntu server, then x, and then fluxbox. How do I start X with running Fluxbox ?
[11:14] <ompaul> jenda, again not helpful
[11:14] <nalioth> jenda: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:14] <jenda> sorry
[11:14] <jonny> ok, IM in the sessions
[11:14] <jonny> now what
[11:14] <Hendric> ompaul: i was kidding lol
[11:14] <ompaul> jenda, go to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:14] <nalioth> spudse: install gdm, and there you can choose sessions
[11:14] <nalioth> spudse: if you scroll up, jonny is having a similar problem worked out
[11:14] <Razor-X> jonny: pick Gnome
[11:15] <kingright> what is a fast server to D/L it offf of?
[11:15] <Razor-X> jonny: if you don't see Gnome there, just tell me the list of choices
[11:15] <wicked_> #ubuntu-es
[11:15] <jonny> just default razot-x
[11:15] <cognosco> I need to pass a parameter to a kernel module whenever it is loaded, how do I do this on Ubuntu (i.e. what file to I need to edit/create)
[11:15] <jonny> make that razor-x
[11:16] <Razor-X> hmmmmm....
[11:16] <gpd> cognosco: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst iirc
[11:16] <Razor-X> jonny: do you have Gnome installed?
[11:16] <GregAsche> is the firefox version that ships with breezy unstable as hell for anyone else?
[11:16] <jonny> yes
[11:16] <haselden> GregAsche: yes
[11:16] <jonny> it came with that
[11:16] <ompaul> kingright, put ie. in front of archive if you want, they have ehh buckets of bandwidth
[11:16] <GregAsche> thought I was the only one
[11:16] <GregAsche> is there an update in the repos yet?
[11:16] <jonny> thats what im using
[11:16] <haselden> i've seen quite a bit of people putting issues onto the forums
[11:16] <mpmc> Whats a good GUI for FTP?
[11:17] <Razor-X> jonny: type in ``ls -a /usr/share/xsessions'' and show me the result in pastebin
[11:17] <elephanthunter> dropper: sorry, was doing laundry :D
[11:17] <haselden> GregAsche: i've had resonable success with this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:17] <jonny> ok, hold on
[11:17] <gpd> mpmc: gftp is good... does ssh / sftp too
[11:17] <nalioth> mpmc: try gftp
[11:17] <zpierreski> Hi, does anyone know the best way to rip DVDs to xvid?
[11:17] <nalioth> zpierreski: dvdrip
[11:17] <cognosco> gpd: isn't there an equivalent to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 etc...
[11:17] <elephanthunter> dropper: I do mostly php mysql web development at work
[11:17] <gpd> cognosco: you said kernel parameters not modules ???
[11:18] <zpierreski> nalioth: does dvdrip compress the DVD as well into xvid?
[11:18] <kingright> now what ompaul
[11:18] <nalioth> zpierreski: /msg ubotu info dvdrip
[11:18] <cognosco> gpd: I said module
[11:18] <dropper> elephanthunter,  : I'm looking for a php mentor you up for it? what distro u use?
[11:18] <elephanthunter> dropper: Ubuntu Breezy
[11:18] <elephanthunter> dropper: Sure
[11:19] <dropper> and u got php5 on there
[11:19] <kingright> i found a germany FTP one it will take 2 and a hafe hour
[11:19] <gsnedders> hi
[11:19] <kingright> but what do u mean by ie. ompaul ?
[11:19] <elephanthunter> dropper: yes
[11:19] <jonny> razor-x here you go! http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3671
[11:19] <dropper> elephanthunter,  :   php OO but is compiled like in c#?
[11:20] <jenda> kingright: ie = that is
[11:20] <selinium> dropper elephanthunter: if you are going totalk about installing php on ubuntu fine, if you want to talk php, private message it.
[11:20] <cognosco> gpd: I think /etc/modprobe.d/ is what I'm looking for
[11:20] <grant_> Can anyone tell me how to run this file - patch-2.6.14-rc5-git6
[11:20] <selinium> dropper elephanthunter: :)
[11:20] <elephanthunter> selinium: I'm trying lol
[11:20] <Razor-X> jonny: thanks
[11:20] <jonny> yup
[11:20] <P8ntKid> Is ubuntu Debian based?
[11:20] <selinium> elephanthunter, /query dropper
[11:21] <dropper> ooohh .. sorryr.. if elephanthunter  : don
[11:21] <kingright> but i still dont know what ompaul meant
[11:21] <Razor-X> P8ntKid: yeah, it is
[11:21] <haselden> P8ntKid yes
[11:21] <dropper> if elephanthunter dont mind the pm
[11:21] <gsnedders> is it possible to take a screenshot from the cli?
[11:21] <Razor-X> jonny: I may ignore what you say for a while, because my browser is in another ratpoison window
[11:21] <Razor-X> gsnedders: ``import -window root foo.png''
[11:21] <nalioth> P8ntKid: yes it is, what program are you wanting today? ;)
[11:21] <iiiears> p8n -yes  follow ubotu's link
[11:21] <Razor-X> gsnedders: or ``xwd -root | convert - foo.png''
[11:21] <dropper> selinium,  : whats the query for ?
[11:21] <iiiears> !ubuntu
[11:21] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[11:22] <jonny> k
[11:22] <iiiears> !awards
[11:22] <ubotu> [awards]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[11:22] <gsnedders> thanks :)
[11:22] <Razor-X> gsnedders: I screenshot a lot :P, I even have my own script for automatic screenshot naming :P
[11:22] <ompaul> kingright, the archives you want all have the word archive in them, put ie. in front of the word archive in the file using the command >sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list< in a terminal - find a terminal by applications - accessories - terminal
[11:22] <selinium> dropper if you type /query <nick> it creates a private message tab for you two to talk in ?
[11:22] <jonny> is ur browser still screwing up?
[11:23] <iiiears> ubuntu was also included in PC Maazines top fifty best products of the year.
[11:23] <Razor-X> jonny: it's not screwing up, it just takes up the whole screen, basically
[11:23] <nalioth> selinium: only if the user is registered and ID'd
[11:23] <dropper> selinium, thanx
[11:23] <jonny> ok
[11:23] <kingright> im slow today i still dont get it?
[11:23] <sorrytoanoiy> hi all
[11:23] <PlanarPlatypus> Does anyone know if there is a sensible way to install eclipse plugins if one has installed eclipse using synaptic?
[11:23] <selinium> nalioth, you have to be to gain access to ubutu , dont you?
[11:24] <elephanthunter> nalioth: how does one register and ID?
[11:24] <sorrytoanoiy> um I have 10mins before work to format and partiion a hardrive
[11:24] <nalioth> to register your nickname, type /msg nickserv help register
[11:24] <sorrytoanoiy> could some on give me the comands
[11:24] <nalioth> sorrytoanoiy: use gparted
[11:24] <sorrytoanoiy> I want to put 1 partion on hdb
[11:25] <sorrytoanoiy> and format it in ext
[11:25] <PlanarPlatypus> or should I just abandon the idea of using the eclipse package and use the one from eclipse.org?
[11:25] <dropper> elephanthunter, Is that pm window thinggy working>?
[11:25] <nalioth> dropper: you cannot send /pm to folks. you are not registerd. see above
[11:25] <marek_> wine: could not exec wineserver
[11:25] <marek_> what i should do?
[11:25] <marek_> help
[11:25] <elephanthunter> dropper: I'm going to try and register so we can PM
[11:25] <sorrytoanoiy> nalioth: what would be the comand to but one partions on the whole hdb hardrive?
[11:26] <dropper> oh! how do I register?
[11:26] <jenda> sorrytoanoiy: suda apt-get install gparted
[11:26] <dropper> nalioth,  : where above exactly
[11:26] <jenda> sorrytoanoiy: that is a very easy to use program
[11:26] <nalioth> sorrytoanoiy: use gparted, it's point-n-clicky quick
[11:26] <nalioth> to register your nickname, type /msg nickserv help register
[11:26] <grant_> Can anyone pls pls tell me how to run this file under Ubuntu (patch-2.6.14-rc5-git6)
[11:26] <Eddie> will divx files play with as good a quality in ubuntu as on windows?
[11:26] <jenda> grant_: what filetype?
[11:27] <njan> grant_, what is "this file", and where did you get it from?
[11:27] <Eddie> ive been told linux plays divx quite poorly due to old codec usage
[11:27] <_jason> does anyone know of a way other than "reduced resources" to make metacity use wireframe resizing?
[11:27] <towsonu2003> grant_: isn't that a kernel patch?
[11:27] <dropper> REGISTER mypassword
[11:27] <grant_> I got this file from Ubuntu Head quarters as the latest Kernel patch
[11:27] <sorrytoanoiy> i just wanted the common linux comnad line that works over all linux
[11:27] <nalioth> Eddie: depends on the quality of the divx
[11:27] <marek_> i have problem with wine, wine: could not exec wineserver
[11:28] <nalioth> dropper: /msg nickserv register <PASSWORD>
[11:28] <marek_> and don't start
[11:28] <Eddie> nalioth, so not always/
[11:28] <Eddie> ?
[11:28] <elephanthunter> oh
[11:28] <nalioth> Eddie: if you have a shite divx, it's gonna be shite on all platforms
[11:28] <sorrytoanoiy> nalioth would the comon cmdline opiton be fdisk for the partioning?
[11:28] <grant_> Anyone else know how to undate the kernel??????
[11:28] <elephanthunter> /msg nickserv register beaniebaby
[11:28] <nalioth> sorrytoanoiy: use cfdisk
[11:29] <grant_> update i mean
[11:29] <william> hey guys what do I do about playing movies / getting codecs while being in Ubuntu?
[11:29] <Eddie> right well my x files episodes are now playing satisfactorily
[11:29] <NoUse> !tell william about w32codecs
[11:29] <selinium> elephanthunter, without the space
[11:29] <Eddie> all I need to do now is configure fetchmail
[11:29] <sorrytoanoiy> nalioth: ok cool um
[11:29] <haselden> !tell haselden about w32codecs
[11:29] <Eddie> does anyone here have any experience with fetchmail on ubuntu
[11:29] <nalioth> selinium: elephanthunter is exampling
[11:29] <selinium> nal
[11:29] <towsonu2003> grant_: sorry, I always use synaptic even to update kernel...
[11:29] <Razor-X> jonny: back, sorry, my mom called me down for some errands
[11:29] <selinium> nalioth, Doh! sorry elephanthunter :)
[11:30] <kingright> william do sudoapt-get install w32codecs
[11:30] <elephanthunter> selinium: np :D
[11:30] <sorrytoanoiy> could  you give me example say im useing hdb and i want to put one partion on the whole thing
[11:30] <doubletwist> I installed linux-source-2.6.12 but can't seem to find the forcedeth driver in there anywhere. Where is it?
[11:30] <kingright> william do sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[11:30] <jenda> grant_: Don't update the kernel. It's not needed.
[11:30] <VooDoo> kingright: that wont work if your using breezy
[11:30] <nalioth> kingright: w32codecs are not in the repos due to legal reasons
[11:30] <selinium> kingright, w32codecs are not in the repos anymore...
[11:30] <kingright> oh ok
[11:30] <VooDoo> i have them as a deb package however :)
[11:31] <selinium> ubotu tell william about w32codecs
[11:31] <Razor-X> I compiled allmy codecs in meself
[11:31] <william> thank you
[11:31] <selinium> william, the  sudo dpkg -i /path/to/w32codecs.deb
[11:31] <elephanthunter> finally got it working selinium nalioth, :thanks
[11:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kingright about w32codecs
[11:31] <VooDoo> if any one one wants the w32 codecs for ubuntu that work in breezy then let me know!
[11:31] <selinium> elephanthunter, np
[11:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell VooDoo about w32codecs
[11:31] <IG0R> how can i choose xmms as the defult mp3 player?
[11:31] <doubletwist> how do I tell the source to compile forcedeth??
[11:32] <nalioth> VooDoo: thank you. we have them, too
[11:32] <spudse> hello can somebody help me with installing fluxbox on ubuntu ?
[11:32] <nalioth> doubletwist: say again?
[11:32] <Eddie> ubotu tell me about w32codecs
[11:32] <william> do I have to do the same thing for Breezy for the respositories
[11:32] <william> ?
[11:32] <nalioth> spudse: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[11:32] <VooDoo> sorry lol :) DOH! didnt think
[11:32] <selinium> william, ?
[11:32] <doubletwist> the forcedeth driver [for nforce ethernet] . It's in the source tree, but there's no config for it.
[11:32] <towsonu2003> ubotu: tell towsonu2003 about ubuntu
[11:32] <sorrytoanoiy> nalioth:  could you give me an expamle for partion hdb with cfdisk with ext?
[11:32] <spudse> nalioth, I first installed x-server, then fluxbox, but I get nothing but a black screen when I run "startx"
[11:32] <jonny> razor-x how old r u?
[11:32] <nalioth> sorrytoanoiy: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:32] <william> earlier today when I had 5.04 I was told to add repositories do I have to do that with 5.10
[11:33] <nalioth> spudse: again, i say install 'gdm'
[11:33] <kingright> no what program will be the ez on to brun a ISO file?
[11:33] <Eddie> the official channels on freenode really do take the word "pedantic" to its limits
[11:33] <spudse> nalioth, I did that, still black screen
[11:33] <sorrytoanoiy> nalioth: ok thanks for all that  :)
[11:33] <VooDoo> william: there all in the sources.list file you may have to uncomment a couple of lines
[11:33] <Razor-X> jonny: if you could, can you put the results of ``cat /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop'' and ``cat /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop''
[11:33] <Razor-X> jonny: 15
[11:33] <selinium> william, the repos you added are the breezy repos. if you want a clean repo list use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[11:33] <jonny> r u gonna be on 2nit
[11:33] <marek_> pls help me: i'm having problem with wine; i can't start wine
[11:33] <jenda> william: do that for universe and multiverse, not backports
[11:33] <marek_> wine: could not exec wineserver
[11:34] <nalioth> spudse: do you have a large hard disk?
[11:34] <william> no no it was 5.04
[11:34] <william> but ok
[11:34] <spudse> nalioth: I got 10gb
[11:34] <jonny> i gtg to my soccer game
[11:34] <Razor-X> jonny: depends on the time, I'm on at 12 AM PDT for sure, though
[11:34] <ecletrik> How can I play music on a "MP3 DVD"?
[11:34] <selinium> ubotu tell marek_ about wine
[11:34] <william> are there instructions to w32?
[11:34] <william> w32codecs
[11:34] <jonny> well ill get on after my game and c if ur on, wish me luck
[11:35] <thirso> http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:35] <selinium> william, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs
[11:35] <VooDoo> william: just download them and run dpkg -i /path.to/w32codecs.file
[11:35] <doubletwist> Nevermind I found it... grrr
[11:35] <Nikopol> jonny, gl
[11:35] <Zeep> william, Mom, I'll search them for you
[11:35] <Zeep> william, Hang on a sec ;-)
[11:35] <Zeep> selinium, There is also a special repository available
[11:35] <Razor-X> jonny: good luck
[11:35] <nalioth> spudse: i'm a dummy when it comes to this, but if you install ubuntu-desktop, and flux, you can have flux as your default session (and have wonderful gnome programs)
[11:35] <Razor-X> Nikopol: OpenGL?
[11:36] <selinium> Zeep,  i don't want to muddy the water, If you start adding repos and you dont konw what you are doing you can break your ubuntu
[11:36] <Nikopol> Razor-X, no gl = goodluck :)
[11:36] <kingright> now what program will be the ez one to use to burn a ISO file?
[11:36] <jonny> thx bye
[11:36] <selinium> ubotu tell william about w32codecs
[11:36] <VooDoo> kingright: gnome baker or k3b
[11:36] <signius> cdrecord
[11:36] <spudse> nalioth, will not I loose efficiency with all the gnome library's ? I want speedy system :)
[11:36] <El_Che> kingright: k3B
[11:36] <william> I already downloaded it
[11:36] <william> :)
[11:36] <kingright> ok ty
[11:36] <NutterUK> hello I currently have WIndows Xp and Suse installed. I want to get rid of Suse and install Ubuntu. How do I do that?
[11:37] <selinium> william, cool then sudo dpkg -i <file>
[11:37] <nalioth> spudse: if you only load flux session, there shouldnt be all that many things running from gnome
[11:37] <Zeep> william, That's it, but I see, you allready downloaded them ;-)
[11:37] <ecletrik> How can I play music on a "MP3 DVD"?
[11:37] <signius> suse is a good distro why do you want to remove it ?
[11:37] <VooDoo> william: check this out......everything you need to no for [hoary]  but will work with breezy www.ubuntuguide.org/
[11:37] <spudse> nalioth, thats nice. I think I will try that way
[11:37] <NutterUK> signius it is not working with my wireless card and ubuntu livecd did
[11:37] <Zeep> I'm pretty happy with SuSE on my laptop, too - they even have apt, so, everything is fine ;-)
[11:38] <selinium> ubotu tell VooDoo about ubuntuguide
[11:38] <selinium> ubotu tell william  about ubuntuguide
[11:38] <signius> if it works under ubuntu live it will work under suse
[11:38] <jenda> william: be careful about the ubuntuguide: it is outdated. Most things work, but not all
[11:38] <SEJeff> signius: That is not true necessarily
[11:38] <signius> NutterUK what wireless card is it ?
[11:38] <selinium> VooDoo, Don't recommend ubuntuguide
[11:38] <NutterUK> signius ubuntu livecd did it straight away without any config. Ive tried loads of htings on suse and nothing will work
[11:38] <Zeep> Another ressource is wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <VooDoo> selinuim: roger!
[11:39] <SEJeff> signius: SUSE goes against the FHS and puts things in all kind of nonstandard locations. /opt/gnome is a good example
[11:39] <selinium> VooDoo, :)
[11:39] <william> what player should I be using Totem?
[11:39] <Zeep> SEJeff, It actually IS a standard location ;-)
[11:39] <signius> SEJeff Loads of distros so that
[11:39] <NutterUK> GlobespanVirata Prism 802.11g
[11:39] <jenda> selinium: It can be used for some things. Work is in progress on urdating it...
[11:39] <VooDoo> xine is ok william, but its a matter of choice
[11:39] <Zeep> SEJeff, According to the LSB-rules, this is a possible location :-)
[11:39] <SEJeff> signius: But thats not FHS compliant, and ubuntu is
[11:39] <signius> Its one of things holding back progress of linux IMHO i am all for the LSB
[11:39] <william> well I did the w32codecs and tried to run the .avi file and no luck
[11:40] <SEJeff> Zeep: gnome is not a user added extra package...
[11:40] <signius> NutterUK what wireless card is it ?
[11:40] <NutterUK> GlobespanVirata Prism 802.11g
[11:40] <Zeep> SEJeff, I read some discussions about this issue, maybe I can find some information, mom ;-)
[11:40] <signius> NutterUK what prism chipset ?
[11:40] <SEJeff> Zeep: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#OPTADDONAPPLICATIONSOFTWAREPACKAGES
[11:40] <VooDoo> william: i know i shouldnt but this really worked for me http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#xine-ui
[11:40] <Zeep> SEJeff, But, to cut it down, it depends on how you interpret the standard
[11:41] <selinium> VooDoo, Aaaargh!
[11:41] <jenda> huffers quit? He was just asking about his DVD...ah well his loss
[11:41] <NutterUK> signius who do i find that?
[11:41] <VooDoo> LOL well it works
[11:41] <zpierreski> When I try to install dvdrip, I get this message:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:41] <zpierreski>   dvdrip: Depends: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) but it is not installable
[11:41] <zpierreski> E: Broken packages
[11:41] <jenda> zpierreski: Hoary?
[11:41] <zpierreski> yup
[11:41] <selinium> VooDoo, Are you going to be around when he folows some of the other stuff? :)
[11:42] <Zeep> SEJeff, I see, LSB and FHS are not the same thing, so, SuSE builds it's filesystem according to the LSB-standard ;-)
[11:42] <jenda> zpierreski:  Thought so
[11:42] <zpierreski> oh yeah, my backports aren't working either
[11:42] <NutterUK> signius who do i find that?
[11:42] <Amaranth> !backports
[11:42] <signius> NutterUK lspci
[11:42] <bluefrog-10> NutterUK, just put the install cd in and boot. install over the suse or elsewhere if u have space
[11:42] <Ex-Cyber> can anyone recommend a free tool (or set of tools) for backing up a drive image to DVD+RW that will span multiple disks?
[11:42] <NutterUK> im using winxp
[11:42] <SEJeff> Zeep: LSB builds off of FHS
[11:42] <Amaranth> !tell zpierreski about backports
[11:42] <zpierreski> jenda: U had this problem b4
[11:42] <VooDoo> XP!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAARRRRGHGHH im melting
[11:42] <NutterUK> thanks bluefrog
[11:42] <Amaranth> zpierreski: you're probably using the old unofficial backports
[11:42] <jenda> zpierreski: Yes This is a known problem, search the forum. I dunno what it was solved by
[11:42] <Amaranth> zpierreski: they break things and they got shut down
[11:42] <NutterUK> lol
[11:43] <concept10> The ubuntu 5.10 server doesnt automatically ifup eth0 during start.  Anyone familiar with the changes of /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:43] <jenda> Amaranth: No this is a Hoary issue
[11:43] <towsonu2003> VooDoo ehehehe
[11:43] <bluefrog-10> Ex-Cyber, is it just the matter to transfer the image or u want to create the image right away on the cd?
[11:43] <Amaranth> jenda: So?
[11:43] <jenda> zpierreski: Gimme a sec
[11:43] <Amaranth> jenda: hoary unofficial (mirrormax) backports broke lots of installs
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> right eth0 works but eth1 doesnt how do i determine which of card is eth0 or eth1?
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> i have two cards..
[11:44] <SEJeff> Zeep: If you read http://lsbbook.gforge.freestandards.org/install-app.html you will see the LSB specifically references FHS
[11:44] <jenda> Amaranth: I hod this prb before
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> nevermind eth0: Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter
[11:44] <Amaranth> lsuactiafner: i think lspci has that info
[11:44] <Zeep> SEJeff, Okay, thanks for your informations ;-)
[11:44] <Ex-Cyber> bluefrog-10: I'm not sure exactly what you mean... I don't think I can really create an intermediate file because some partitions are larger than others and I don't think it would result in a coherent image to take the image while writing to the partition...
[11:44] <zpierreski> crap!  I hate how I can apt-get programs one day, then can't the next!
[11:44] <Amaranth> zpierreski: Don't use unofficial sources and you won't have that problem.
[11:44] <jenda> zpierreski: not their fault...
[11:45] <VooDoo> my problems with apt was that i hadnt enable multiverse :)
[11:45] <zblach> what is the better replacement for sound juicer?
[11:45] <Zeep> SEJeff, Didn't know that, so ...
[11:45] <zpierreski> jenda: Is there a way to manually download packages and install them?
[11:45] <VooDoo> zblach: i use grip :)  works ok for me
[11:45] <SEJeff> Zeep: Learn something new every day :-)
[11:45] <zblach> i'd like to rip some CDs to MP3, but sj doesn't have it
[11:45] <jenda> zpierreski: yes
[11:45] <Zeep> SEJeff, Even after using Linux for years ;-)
[11:45] <selinium> zpierreski, if you have the wrong repos in your sources.list you can break your ubuntu.
[11:46] <jenda> zpierreski: You downlad a deb file
[11:46] <zpierreski> jenda: then do I use dpkg
[11:46] <jenda> zpierreski: and run "dpkg -i filename"
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> driver for 0000:00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
[11:46] <twisted_maple> crimsun: alive?
[11:46] <jenda> zpierreski: yes
[11:46] <NutterUK> ok thanks for your help just going to install ubuntu now.
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> is nforce reverse engineered?
[11:46] <Zeep> SEJeff, But, I guess, that's the reason why we all are linux-fanatics
[11:46] <zpierreski> jenda:  Thanx!
[11:46] <jenda> zpierreski:  with sudo
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> forcedeth
[11:46] <jenda> zpierreski: np
[11:47] <NutterUK> hopefully will be back in 20mins with it working!
[11:47] <SEJeff> Zeep: yes
[11:47] <LjL> hello, i've just recently installed ubuntu and have some doubts about repositories... the basic idea is that 1) the "breezy" repository only contains the same packages (and package versions) as there are on the Breezy CD  2) the "breezy-updates" repository contains the same packages as the "breezy" repository, with no new features or new packages, but only fixes to major bugs  3) the "breezy-security" repository contains only packages with fixes
[11:47] <LjL> is this correct?
[11:47] <VooDoo> zeep: fanatics? me *twitch twitch*
[11:47] <DianWei> Probably an extremely quick question... I followed a tutorial on how to compile a source, at a given step it says "run ./configure" but when I try to do this, the terminal says command not found, what did I do wrong?
[11:47] <seth_k|lappy> DianWei, just type ./configure
[11:47] <VooDoo> LjL: i had the same issue, until i put multiverse in the sources.list file
[11:47] <SEJeff> Zeep: /usr is for the "main distribution" and /opt is for "additional" binaries. Most would agree that Ubuntu is a desktop distro primarily and gnome is part of the main distro
[11:47] <seth_k|lappy> not run ./configure
[11:47] <twisted_maple> crimsun: earth to crimsun, come in crimsun.
[11:48] <Razor-X> DianWei: just ``./configure''
[11:48] <bluefrog-10> Ex-Cyber, i think partimage can write to cd. u should have a look
[11:48] <LjL> voodoo: isnt multiverse basically about "non-free" packages?
[11:48] <Zeep> SEJeff, Yeah, I pretty much agree - altough I prefer KDE over GNOME ;-)