[00:41] <ibuclaw> TJ_D, someone else may look into it, but just so that the obvious is stated. Does sound preferences report any muted devices?
[00:42] <ibuclaw> There is a CLI monitor named 'alsamixer' too, that many give more information
[00:43] <ibuclaw> you can also try ending the process 'pulseaudio' to see if that gives any improvement
[01:03] <th5th> success!
[01:03] <th5th> ibuclaw, thanks a lot man :D
[01:03] <ibuclaw> no probs =)
[01:04] <ibuclaw> I was going to say ... (but you left)
[01:04] <ibuclaw> th5th, btw, I wrote a guide a while back http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1262546
[01:04] <th5th> the installer was putting grub on the memory stick. i had to select sdb1 rather than sda manually
[01:04] <th5th> oh cool i will check it out
[01:04] <ibuclaw> that's a bit advanced though
[01:05] <ibuclaw> especially part 2
[01:05] <th5th> i learn fast...? maybe lol
[01:05] <ibuclaw> but it is really cool to show off to your friends =)
[01:06] <ibuclaw> am just in the middle of updating it for a Plymouth bootsplash atm
[01:06] <ibuclaw> hopefully it won't be too different (fingers crossed)
[01:06] <th5th> i will keep an eye on it. in the mean time i need to get going. thanks for your help :)
[01:07] <th5th> o/
[01:24] <TJ_D> I've been using gedit a lot to edit code, in the past I've used ConTEXT on windows which has the ability to use the find function between all open documents, and prints a list of the line number/line that it occurs on...is there a way to do this with a plugin/addon for gedit, or a different linux compatible program? I tried running Context with Wine, which worked, but I just don't like the program as much as I used to...I s
[02:44] <TJ_D> Hi all - I'm trying to compile a program that says I need urpmi libgnomeui2_0-devel , and urpmi libvte4-devel
[02:44] <TJ_D> I know the command I probably need to use in terminal is sudo apt-get
[02:45] <TJ_D> I'm not sure the settings beyond that though
[02:45] <TJ_D> sudo apt-get -something install urpmi libvte4-devel?
[02:46] <pedro3005> the package libgnomeui-dev exists, you can try installing that; didn't find the others, though
[02:46] <TJ_D> what's the urpmi part refer to?
[02:47] <pedro3005> hm
[02:47] <pedro3005> what are you trying to install?
[02:48] <TJ_D> it's a patch for Tinyfugue that adds gui interface
[02:48] <TJ_D> not much support on the programs
[02:49] <pedro3005> urpmi is a package management tool, sort of like apt-get it seems. you shouldn't really have two
[02:49] <TJ_D> maybe that's the command to retrieve the file using urpmi
[02:50] <TJ_D> so think installing libgnomeui-dev and seeing if it compiles after?
[02:50]  * pedro3005 facepalms
[02:50] <pedro3005> you're right
[02:50] <pedro3005> sorry about that
[02:50] <pedro3005> you'd also need libvte4-devel
[02:51] <geirha> aptitude search vte   shows libvte-dev, try that one.
[02:51] <TJ_D> so, sudo apt-get -(what here) install libvte4-devel
[02:51] <TJ_D> or without the four
[02:51] <geirha> sudo aptitude install libgnomeui-dev libvte-dev,
[02:52] <geirha> err, without the , at the end
[02:55] <TJ_D> ok, sorry, I'm a rooky - http://paste.ubuntu.com/429251/
[02:55] <TJ_D> Errors I'm receiving when I try to make the program
[02:55] <geirha> There's no configure script?
[02:56] <TJ_D> ah, maybe
[02:56] <TJ_D> There is, how do I execute that?
[02:56] <geirha> Also try "make distclean" first, to get the source tree cleaned up. Then "./configure"
[03:00] <TJ_D> hm
[03:00] <TJ_D> http://paste.ubuntu.com/429253/
[03:00] <TJ_D> There might not be a configure script or I just don't know what I'm doing =P
[03:03] <geirha> Doesn't seem like they've put much thought into the build system
[03:04] <geirha> It probably compiles on whatever system the devs are using, but getting it to compile on Ubuntu looks like a ton of work.
[03:07] <TJ_D> =(
[04:02] <shahan> a new KERNEL in LUCID update
[04:02] <shahan> !!!
[04:02] <shahan> yesterday I made an update to my system
[04:02] <shahan> its LUCID DESKTOP
[04:02] <shahan> now... when it was starting.... I got there is two kernel installed in my system
[04:02] <shahan> does any one have idea?
[04:02] <frank1_> anyone know how to fetch album art in rhythmbox on lucid?
[04:06] <Chesamo> Apparently not.
[04:07] <ddecator> shahan seems to kind of come and go a lot..
[04:09] <kermiac> frank1_: doesn't rhytmbox automatically fetch the album art for you?
[04:09] <PabloRubianes> duanedesign: ping www.ubuntu.org.uy
[04:10] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> anyone awake in here
[04:10] <frank1_> ) kermiac: i wish
[04:11] <frank1_> kermiac: i have the plugin set but the option to use it it grayed out
[04:11] <Chesamo> Is the plugin for the correct version?
[04:11] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> is there a GUI like device manager in Ubuntu that list NIC information?
[04:11] <duanedesign> hello PabloRubianes
[04:12] <duanedesign> PabloRubianes: oh wow!
[04:12] <duanedesign> PabloRubianes: looks good
[04:12] <PabloRubianes> :-)
[04:13] <frank1_> kermiac: i would just use amarok but it seems unable to access my media which is stored on a seperate drive
[04:13] <malev> nice site PabloRubianes ! congrats
[04:13] <PabloRubianes> thanks malex
[04:13] <PabloRubianes> malev sorry
[04:13] <malev> jaj
[04:14] <kermiac> frank1_: what is the output of "apt-cache policy rhythmbox-plugins" (without the quotes)
[04:14] <malev> drupal?
[04:14] <Chesamo> ZeRoDeAtH50435: are you thinking of network-manager-gnome?
[04:14] <frank1_> hythmbox-plugins:
[04:14] <frank1_>   Installed: 0.12.8-0ubuntu4
[04:14] <frank1_>   Candidate: 0.12.8-0ubuntu4
[04:14] <frank1_>   Version table:
[04:14] <frank1_>  *** 0.12.8-0ubuntu4 0
[04:14] <frank1_>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main Packages
[04:14] <frank1_>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:14] <frank1_>      0.12.8-0ubuntu3 0
[04:14] <frank1_>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages
[04:14] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I gues
[04:14] <PabloRubianes> malev: yes
[04:14] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> do not really know
[04:15] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> is it like device manager for Windows
[04:15] <Chesamo> frak1_: Use paste.ubuntu.com
[04:15] <Chesamo> frank1_*
[04:16] <Chesamo> Nnnno
[04:16] <Chesamo> There is no such thing, yet
[04:17] <Chesamo> You want the hardware information about your NIC?
[04:17] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> kind of its something I have to do for class
[04:17] <Chesamo> What do you have to do?
[04:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> NIC Advanced Properties
[04:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> NICs typically have many advanced properties. These properties can be viewed using the following steps:
[04:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> 1. Open the Device Manager (you can do this by running the command �devmgmt.msc�
[04:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> 2. Expand the Network adapters item
[04:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> 3. Double-click on a network adapter to open the Properties page
[04:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> 4. Click the Advanced tab
[04:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> Most users never adjust these parameters, but it may beneficial to adjust them for some applications.  Also note that not all network cards have the same properties available to adjust.  Wireless NICs in particular have additional adjustable properties.
[04:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> For this discussion, choose one of the NIC properties and fully describe what it does, the available options, and when each option might be useful. You must choose a different piece of information than presented by your colleagues (if repeated, the latter poster will not earn full credit). Also note that properties that differ only in IPv4 vs IPv6 are considered the same for this discussion.
[04:19] <Chesamo> .....
[04:19] <Chesamo> Use paste.ubuntu.com
[04:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> sry
[04:19] <kermiac> frank1_: please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy rhythmbox"
[04:19] <Chesamo> Also, what you're trying to do is a Windows thing.
[04:20] <frank1_> ok
[04:20] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah there windows lovers
[04:20] <Chesamo> But the problem si
[04:20] <Chesamo> is*
[04:20] <Chesamo> you actually /need/ Windows to do this assignment.
[04:20] <Chesamo> Because you need to know the properties available to Windows users.
[04:20] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> there is no way to do it in Ubuntu
[04:20] <frank1_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/429279/
 Because you need to know the properties available to Windows users.
[04:21] <Chesamo> Ubuntu gives you certain options, but they're not going to be the same exact ones available to Windows users.
[04:21] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> right
[04:22] <Chesamo> I can send you a screenshot of my WIndows machine's Advanced Properties page
[04:25] <frank1_> amarok seems to find the album art automatically but i prefer thythmbox
[04:26] <Chesamo> ZeRoDeAtH50435: http://sublevel21.com/rand/ZeRoDeAtH50435/
[04:26] <Chesamo> That's Windows 7, if it makes any difference
[04:27] <kermiac> frank1_: hmm... that all seems ok. perhaps you could try removing & re-installing
[04:27] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I have a desktop that runs XP can I get it remotely
[04:28] <kermiac> frank1_: sudo apt-get remove --purge rhythmbox
[04:28] <frank1_> kermiac: whats purge going to do?
[04:28] <Chesamo> ZeRoDeAtH50435: I just gave you what you needed
[04:28] <kermiac> frank1_: then sudo apt-get install rhythmbox rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store
[04:28] <Chesamo> frank1_: Remove the extra configuration in /etc
[04:28] <kermiac> frank1_: it removes asssociated config files
[04:29] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I have to explain one of the options and it has to be different from my other classmates
[04:29] <Chesamo> Google.
[04:30] <Chesamo> Windows doesn't give you any of the information, you just have to *know* what they are. What's where Google comes in!
[04:31] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> right thanks for your help
[04:31] <Chesamo> You're welcome.
[04:32] <frank1_> kermiac: coverart plugin is still set and i still cant configure it
[04:36] <kermiac> frank1_: I'm out of ideas. maybe look at http://code.google.com/p/albumartsearch/ as a workaround. I haven't tried it though
[04:37] <frank1_> thanks
[04:37] <Chesamo> frank1_: Can you manually add album artwork?
[04:37] <frank1_> not through rhythmbox
[04:37] <Chesamo> Oh?
[04:38] <Chesamo> Could your build of Rhythmbox have a bug that's preventing it?
[04:38] <frank1_> doubt it
[04:38] <frank1_> removed and reinstalled already
[04:38] <frank1_> multiple times
[04:38] <Chesamo> Because I have Rhythmbox on my computer and it's running fine.
[04:38] <Chesamo> ....that doesn't solve the problem I just mentioned.
[04:40] <frank1_> what version are you running
[04:40] <Chesamo> Let me look
[04:41] <Chesamo> 0.12.8
[04:42] <frank1_> same here
[04:42] <Chesamo> Interesting.
[04:42] <Chesamo> What version of Ubuntu, and what processor archetecture?
[04:43] <ddecator> the cover art plugin doesn't give me the option to configure, if that's part of this discussion
[04:43] <frank1_> so how do you get your art
[04:43] <frank1_> 10.04
[04:45] <ddecator> good question..how did i do that? haha, once sec
[04:45] <ddecator> i think i used songbird for it
[04:46] <frank1_> uhh. im constantly getting new music and was hoping for a way to just get the art through rhythmbox
[04:46] <kermiac> frank1_: maybe try adding covers manually? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/e8rRrhCU
[04:46] <kermiac> frank1_: or the plugin I mentioned above...
[04:46] <ddecator> if you buy from the music store, it should get the artwork. i can't remember if musicbrainz fetches artwork or not..
[04:47] <kermiac> frank1_: I think coverart *might* be disabled - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/507731
[07:20] <nomnex> can I find the information about my disk cache (2, 8, 16 ) using a Ubuntu tool? thanks
[07:21] <ddecator> what kind of information?
[07:21] <nomnex> HDD cache, I don't find the info using palmiset
[07:22] <ddecator> cache as in swap area?
[07:22] <nomnex> No, the disk cache
[07:22] <nomnex> factory disk cache
[07:22] <ddecator> ah, i've never looked into that, so i'm not of much help
[07:22] <nomnex> okay
[07:23] <nomnex> someone else? I don't have easy access to the HD
[07:44] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> how you you get remote desktop to work on Ubuntu or to control a Windows desktop from your Ubuntu system
[07:51] <nomnex> how to know the disk cache on Ubuntu $ sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda (to answer my question)
[09:30] <zeroseven0183> !ping
[09:35] <scouris> When I run banshee and minimize it to the notification area, it's icon hangs over the lower edge of the panel, even if I increase the height of the panel. This pic shows the issue: http://yfrog.com/0ubansheequestionp    - any idea how I can rectify this?
[11:31] <byte> Is there a way of removing the "Floppy Disk" icon from Computer? I don't have a floppy drive. I tried editing fstab
[11:31] <shahan> byte: go to BIOS
[11:31] <shahan> then disable FLOPPY DRIVE
[11:32] <byte> oh. ok thanks
[11:32] <shahan> byte: welcome
[11:40] <byte> it worked :) thank you
[11:40] <byte> I don't know anyone who still has a floppy drive. I guess it's just a legacy thing
[11:49] <shahan> byte: ...
[11:49] <shahan> byte: nice try
[11:49] <byte> ?
[11:51] <shahan> byte: :)
[13:38] <ravibn> I need help installing latest Nvidia 9500 GT grpx driver on LTS 10. GNOME desktop
[15:37] <tdn> I have just installed 10.04. Flash does not work in Firefox or Opera. How do I fix thiS? I have tried installing flashpluin-nonfree, but this does not work. If I go to youtube, I just see a black box instead of the video.
[15:37] <Chesamo> Oh, uh
[15:37] <Chesamo> I totally knwo this.
[15:37] <Chesamo> know*
[15:37] <Chesamo> Give me a second.
[15:39] <Chesamo> tdn: go here http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ Select "Linux", then select "Flash Player 10 for Linux (.tar.gz)" and hit "Agree and install now"
[15:39] <Chesamo> tdn: Open the file you just downloaded (it's a tarball archive) and extract libflashplayer.so
[15:40] <Chesamo> (Gibe me a second, looking up the library location; I don't use Firefox)
[15:40] <Chesamo> give*
[15:42] <Chesamo> tdn: Tell me when you've done this.
[15:43] <geirha> Odd, I just installed flashplugin-installer, properly restarted firefox, and flash worked.
[15:44] <Chesamo> You know, I should have thought of doing that right off the bat.
[15:44] <Chesamo> My apologies.
[15:56] <byte> when you encounter a page with flash, firefox should pop up automatically and show you which plugin to install. if you select the official one, I know that doesn't have any issues
[15:56] <Chesamo> The automatic installation's never worked, in my experience.
[15:56] <Chesamo> Unless it's been fixed since I last used Firefox.
[15:57] <byte> just made a fresh installation last night :) and it works fine
[15:58] <byte> I just made the full switch. been booting up on windows with a ubuntu partition. my new drive is fully ubuntu :D
[15:58] <byte> its a solid state drive. im really impressed with the speed so far
[16:00] <Chesamo> I'm just waiting for a GTK+ version of Opera.
[16:02] <byte> I like google chrome but I'm just not interested until they support the plugin API needed to implement something similar to NoScript
[16:03] <Chesamo> THey uh
[16:03] <Chesamo> There's NoScript built in.
[16:03] <byte> it's not as extensive
[16:03] <Chesamo> What else do you need?
[16:04] <Chesamo> "Javascript: ON!" "Javascript: OFF!" "Whitelist the following sites:"
[16:04] <byte> I want to kill all javascript, all iframes, java, flash etc. by default, until I enable them individually
[16:04] <Chesamo> http://techie-buzz.com/browsers/disable-javascript-images-cookies-in-google-chrome.html  << For reference.
[16:05] <byte> oh :) thanks. I think this is newer than when I last checked
[16:05] <Chesamo> It's actually evolved since then. This article is pretty old.
[16:05] <Chesamo> The instructions are still correct, though.
[16:05] <byte> the devs of noscript were saying that google didn't provide the features they needed from the plugin api
[16:06] <Chesamo> They don't.
[16:06] <byte> oh
[16:06] <Chesamo> It's not a plugin, it's something built in.
[16:19] <tdn> Chesamo, hmm... Shouldnt I be able to do it with apt-get?
[16:20] <byte> do what?
[16:20] <Chesamo> Install Flash? Yes, byte just provided an alternate solution.
[16:20] <Chesamo> Er, geirha, I mean.
[17:06] <pecar> -
[17:07] <pecar> hi  the net icon disappear from my desktop and i can not connect my wifi. What can i do?
[17:07] <byte> right click on your bar at the top
[17:07] <byte> add a "Notification Area"
[17:08] <byte> Add to Panel, sorry
[17:09] <byte> did it work?
[17:13] <pecar> no it is not to add
[17:16] <byte> what happened when you added the notification area?
[17:16] <pecar> byte it isn't a icon of network connections
[17:16] <byte> there is no "wireless controls" or network connections in the add to panel
[17:16] <byte> I know that
[17:16] <byte> because the network connections icon is -inside- the notification area object
[17:16] <byte> it's really confusing, took me so long to find it when the same thing happened to me first
[17:17] <byte> the notification area can hold lots of icons, one of them is the network connections
[17:22] <DiegoTc> #ubuntu-beginners-team
[17:22] <DiegoTc> #ubuntu-beginners-dev
[17:31] <pecar> The numeric keyboard from my keyboard only works till the login. After it it don't work.
[17:54] <marine1> what is the proper way to extract an xml file
[17:55] <zeroseven0183> Hi marine1. What do you mean "extract"?
[17:55] <zeroseven0183> Extract from where?
[17:56] <marine1> well I d/l it the desktop ian dit extracted another file which is a workbook_file
[17:57] <marine1> I see an file but when i click on it the options for ascll filter options come up
[17:58] <marine1> zeroseven0183: is the correct character set (unicode utf-8)??
[17:59] <zeroseven0183> You're saying you want to open an XML file?
[18:00] <zeroseven0183> from the archive file you downloaded on your desktop?
[18:00] <zeroseven0183> Am I correct?
[18:00] <marine1> yes but when i originally extracted it, another file appeared without being extraced also
[18:01] <zeroseven0183> By default, I think Ubuntu uses UTF-8
[18:01] <marine1> O.K. I can file the main file that was orginally intended to be seen
[18:02] <marine1> zeroseven0183: I can't locate the file that was originally intended to be used
[18:02] <zeroseven0183> Select the "Extract here" option when right-clicking the archive file
[18:03] <marine1> zeroseven0183: on the 2nd file that was extracted??
[18:04] <zeroseven0183> Nope. The original file. The first one.
[18:04] <zeroseven0183> Can you point me if you don't mind to the file you're referring to.
[18:04] <zeroseven0183> Do you have the link?
[18:04] <marine1> zeroseven0183: that is what I did and another file appeared without being extratced
[18:04] <zeroseven0183> Sorry I'm having a hard time understanding it but would like to help you.
[18:05] <zeroseven0183> I'm sleepy now but let's see if we can get it done
[18:05] <Chesamo> What is the original file? A tar.gz archive?
[18:05] <marine1> it says zip archive
[18:06] <Chesamo> What is the filename extension? (The part after the period)
[18:06] <zeroseven0183> When you extract "Extract here" the files from archives, all of the files will be put to a folder with the same name
[18:06] <marine1> zeroseven0183: this is the name of it::application/x-apple-msg-attachment
[18:07] <Chesamo> That's the filetype as presented by the metadata, not the filename
[18:07] <marine1> Chesamo: it was an attachment that a co-worker sent to me.
[18:07] <Chesamo> In a ZIP file?
[18:08] <marine1> Chesamo: when I right click on the file it says zip archive
[18:08] <Chesamo> Can you not see filename extensions?
[18:10] <marine1> Chesamo: where would that be located??
[18:10]  * Chesamo blinks
[18:10] <Chesamo> It's.... the part of the filename after the period
[18:10] <Chesamo> Like, "archive.zip" is a ZIP file and "archive.rar" is a RAR file
[18:11] <marine1> Chesamo: properties says archive zip
[18:11] <Chesamo> I'm not asking for... nevermind....
[18:11] <marine1> Chesamo: excuse Zip archive
[18:11] <Chesamo> You're running Ubuntu, correct?
[18:11] <marine1> Chesamo: yes
[18:12] <Chesamo> What exactly is wrong with the current extraction?
[18:12] <marine1> Chesamo: when i double click in the folder itself it shows mutliple lines and most of the say xml
[18:13] <marine1> Chesamo: under type most of the lines say xml document
[18:13] <zeroseven0183> You can open XML files using Firefox
[18:13] <Chesamo> Or gedit
[18:13] <Chesamo> I don't understand what the problem is here. Can you explain it to me again?
[18:13] <zeroseven0183> Right-click on the file and select Open with Mozilla Firefox
[18:13] <marine1> Chesamo: O.K. when i extract to the desktop it creates another file which isn't extracted neither
[18:14] <Chesamo> A file that you didn't tell it to extract, is extracted?
[18:17] <Chesamo> Is there anything wrong with the file (that you need, and is properly extracted)?
[18:17] <marine1> Chesamo: i'm working on it now
[18:18] <Chesamo> So there's nothing wrong with the file you need?
[18:18] <Chesamo> Interesting....
[18:18] <Chesamo> It sounds like a bug, but I don't know enough about file-roller to be sur
[18:18] <Chesamo> sure*
[18:21] <marine1> i needed open office spreadsheet to see it
[18:21] <zeroseven0183> Yes
[18:23] <marine1> zeroseven0183: ok i see it thanks
[18:24] <marine1> zeroseven0183: thanks bro
[18:24] <zeroseven0183> Sure. No problem. Happy Ubuntu-ing. Have a great day, enjoy
[18:24] <marine1> zeroseven0183: the file was an xml and open office spreadsheet opened it with no problem.
[19:01] <bootstrap> I haven't used ubuntu in years. I am coming over from mint. Can someone let me know what I am in store for regarding the switch. Years ago I remember having great trouble with wireless and nvidia.
[19:03] <Chesamo> Wireless has improved greatly. nVidia has improved, but it's mostly nVidia's fault for not opening the binaries.
[19:03] <Chesamo> @bootstrap: *
[19:04] <bootstrap> Chesamo: thanks
[19:05] <starcraftman> bootstrap: ummm, why switch from mint to ubuntu? Just curious, its about the same. I think wirless is better, for nvidia drivers just install with the hardware-drivers application.
[19:05] <Chesamo> Isn't Mint based on Ubuntu, anyway?
[19:05] <bootstrap> yes it is
[19:06] <bootstrap> Why switch? umm. I just want to try it out.
[19:06] <starcraftman> bootstrap: hehe, fair enough. Then pick your flavor and install. We'll be here for post install help too.
[19:06] <bootstrap> alright, great, thanks
[19:07] <geirha> You could always shrink a partition to make ~10G free space and install ubuntu there, along side mint. Then try it out for a little while and see if you want to make the switch or not.
[19:08] <bootstrap> geirha, that is exactly what I am doing, I have three partitions already though, actually will that be a problem?
[19:09] <geirha> Depends on whether one of them are an extended partition
[19:09] <starcraftman> bootstrap: logical no? Or all primary? If so, just make last partition extended and make under there.
[19:09] <bootstrap> all primary
[19:09] <bootstrap> thanks, starcraftman
[19:09] <geirha> Then it shouldn't be a problem, Ubuntu should be smart enough to make the fourth one extended, and create logical partitions inside that.
[19:10] <starcraftman> geirha: I don't recommend assuming a computer does something right, murphy would disagree.
[19:10] <nigelbabu> haha
[19:11] <geirha> Fair enough, though it only needs to create one partition
[19:11] <geirha> One of the other three is likely already a swap partition, so it can use that.
[19:13] <nigelbabu> starcraftman: also, I think murphy law applies to windows and not linux
[19:13] <geirha> nigelbabu: murphy's law would disagree :P
[19:14] <nigelbabu> geirha: ;)
[19:39] <pipepupo> Good afternoon.
[19:39] <pipepupo> I had install Ubuntu 10.04 and works fine, but when I select the Windows Vista in ->GRUB is showed error: "Not found hal.dll"
[19:39] <pipepupo> How I can fix it?
[19:43] <starcraftman> pipepupo: uh, i haen't run into that one tbh, lemme have a quick look.
[19:47] <pipepupo> thank you starcraftman
[19:48] <starcraftman> pipepupo: still got your windows cd, appears to be a file necessary for booting.
[19:49] <starcraftman> I'm not sure how it's missing, grub doesn't overwrite files in the system directory, where this file is supposed to be.
[19:49] <pipepupo> is a laptop: Vista preinstalled
[19:50] <pipepupo> I think: the error is the wrong partition on the Vista MBR
[19:50] <pipepupo> in XP you can fix it using boot.ini
[19:51] <starcraftman> pipepupo: did you move the partition?
[19:51] <pipepupo> but in Vista you don't
[19:51] <pipepupo> not
[19:51] <pipepupo> I don't move the partition
[19:51] <pipepupo> but when I installed Ubuntu
[19:52] <starcraftman> pipepupo: sorry, gotta run someone calling me at uni. You might wanna waith a bit longer, someone will answer. Posting on the forums might work but this is more a windows problem.
[19:52] <pipepupo> maybe Ubuntu does it
[19:52] <starcraftman> best of luck
[19:52] <pipepupo> thanks you
[19:53] <pipepupo> .
[19:53] <pipepupo> I have other problem in other computer:
[19:53] <pipepupo> I had installed Ubuntu 64 bit using Wubi, but this Ubuntu don?t recognize Internet
[19:54] <pipepupo> Why?
[19:57] <phillw> pipepupo: you can get vista MBR back and check that vista boots. once that is done, you can put grub2 back on. I don't know anything about wubi, sorry.
[19:58] <phillw> pipepupo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708 has details of how to do that
[19:58] <pipepupo> Thank you phillw
[20:00] <phillw> pipepupo: a good support thread for Wubi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1439526
[20:04] <pipepupo> Thank you phillw
[20:06] <ishijoe> my hard disk is at 56C. is it normal?
[20:08] <Chesamo> No.
[20:09] <Chesamo> ishijoe: 45-55 is the "safe range"... according to Google.
[20:10] <ishijoe> how can i reduce it . i saw something about hdparm
[20:12] <Chesamo> ishijoe: I'm not sure, sorry. If it's a desktop, you can try a hard drive fan.
[20:13] <ishijoe> sorry i didnot mention it. it is a laptop dell vostro a860
[20:13] <Chesamo> ishijoe: Ahh. Then I don't know, sorry.
[20:46] <ddecator> hm, i wonder if that was due to nvidia..
[20:46] <Chesamo> Hm?
[20:47] <ddecator> the question earlier about the laptop getting hot. i know nvidia had trouble with the 195 driver causing fans to not work, but idk if they patched that or not for ubuntu
[20:48] <Chesamo> It was the hard drive, though. Not the video card.
[20:49] <ddecator> true. hard to tell sometimes with laptops though. everything being close together, one thing gets hot it seems like everything else gets hot as a result, haha. could have just been something running in the b/g, my comp gets really hot from f@h
[20:50] <Chesamo> That's true.
[21:19] <pmp6nl> is there any way to check if I am running 64 or 32 bit? I am 99% sure I installed 64, but ubuntu is not showing my 4 gigs of ram
[21:19] <Chesamo> Open up Terminal, type "uname -a" (without the quotes)
[21:20] <Chesamo> It'll say something like: Linux happy-stl 2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:27:30 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:20] <Chesamo> See where mine says i686? Yours will say x86_64.
[21:21] <Chesamo> That is, if you installed 64-bit.
[21:23] <ishijoe> in hdparm man ,it says if PMA is btw 128 and 254 spindown is disabled. mine is 254. should i reduce it to enable spindown or leave it as it is?
[21:24] <Jon_Monreal> pmp6nl: If you didn't install 64-bit, you can enable a PAE kernel to be able to use the whole 4 gigs
[21:24] <ishijoe> *APM
[21:24] <LzrdKing> ishijoe: depends, do you want the drive to spin down?
[21:24] <dustoff2010> I have a program in windows7 that prevents me from logging into windows, so I am using ubuntu cd to log in.I would like to uninstall this program called ayrecovery but i don't see how to from ubuntu.  If it's not possible to uninstall it would it work to rename it just to log into windows then deal with the program?
[21:24] <LzrdKing> if not, no, if so, yes
[21:25] <Chesamo> dustoff2010: You can try mounting the NTFS drive, then browsing to the directory and deleting/renaming it.
[21:26] <dustoff2010> okay thanks, i will try it
[21:26] <ishijoe> well my question should will spindown help my hdd to cool down
[21:26] <Chesamo> dustoff2010: Let me know if you need the commands
[21:26] <dustoff2010> oh yes, i need the command
[21:26] <ishijoe> *my question should be will spin....
[21:28] <Chesamo> dustoff2010: what kind of drive do you have? SATA or IDE?
[21:28] <dustoff2010> sata
[21:31] <Chesamo> dustoff2010: open up Terminal, type "sudo mkdir /mount/windows && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mount/windows -t ntfs" (without the quotes of course)
[21:32] <dustoff2010> ok thanks. I willlet you know if it works
[21:32] <Chesamo> Okay.
[21:32] <Chesamo> If it's successful, your hard drive will now be accessible through /mount/windows.
[21:35] <Chesamo> dtstoff2010: if that doesn't work, try it again, only replacing "sda1" with "sdb1" instead. If that doesn't work, then I know there's a way to list filesystems by partition, I just don't remember what it is right now. I really have to leave, and I regret that I have to leave you hanging like this. Hopefully someone else can help you. Good luck!
[21:35] <Chesamo> dustoff2010*
[21:36] <dustoff2010> will try, first one did not work, trying the secdond now
[21:47] <pmp6nl> Chesamo thanks, it shows x86_64 GNU/Linux... any idea as to why ubuntu is not reading all 4 gigs of ram?
[21:49] <dustoff2010> i have a sata hd and I am using ubuntu  live cd to log into windows 7. I need to remove or uninstall a program that is preventing me from logging into windows 7. I have tried a couple commands to mkdir,but they are not working. chesamo was helping but he had to leave, can anyone help
[21:50] <pmp6nl> ok thanks dustoff2010
[21:51] <pmp6nl> If anyone knows how to figure out why I am not showing all 4 gigs of ram I would appreciate it.  Thanks in advance
[21:56] <phillw> dustoff2010: have you got the win7 partition mounted?
[21:57] <dustoff2010> no, can u help?
[21:59] <dustoff2010> I am loooking at windows files,but i need to be able to rename or delte theiss program
[21:59] <phillw> dustoff2010:  what version of ubuntu are you running?
[21:59] <dustoff2010> i am typing on a laptop, not very good
[22:00] <dustoff2010> sorry  i don't remember, i just downloaded it last night. how can i check?
[22:00] <pmp6nl> dustoff2010 if you are looking at the windows files in ubuntu its mounted
[22:00] <pmp6nl> system --> about ubuntu
[22:01] <dustoff2010> ok, thnx, now how to manuver the files?
[22:01] <pmp6nl> give me a recap on what you are trying to do?  Delete files on a windows partition?
[22:01] <dustoff2010>  sec. sending the original post
[22:02] <dustoff2010> I have a program in windows7 that prevents me from logging into windows, so I am using ubuntu cd to log in.I would like to uninstall this program called ayrecovery but i don't see how to from ubuntu.  If it's not possible to uninstall it would it work to rename it just to log into windows then deal with the program?
[22:02] <pmp6nl> have you just tried booting into win7 via safemode
[22:03] <dustoff2010> It will not let me do anything, everytime I try to go to safe mode, recovery, etc. i just the ayrecovery screen.
[22:04] <pmp6nl> so when you try to boot, it goes directly to ayrecovery screen?
[22:04] <dustoff2010> this was a trial version of a imageing software which i never used and failed to remove it.
[22:05] <pmp6nl> i am not sure if deleteing the windows file will take care of, have you tried using the windows recovery option on the windows cd?
[22:05] <dustoff2010> on ubuntu cd?
[22:05] <dustoff2010> no
[22:06] <pmp6nl> do you have the windows cd?
[22:06] <dustoff2010> i  have the one i created when i bought the comp. does it do a new install?
[22:07] <yandman> eyup
[22:07] <phillw> hi yandman
[22:07] <yandman> oh, hi phill!
[22:07] <pmp6nl> it depends on the version.  if you boot from the cd there should be a recovery option... i dont think it will delete everything.. check the options on the screen.  otherwise if you want i can try to help you find the windows file
[22:08] <yandman> guys, does anyone know what could be the cause of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9257363&posted=1#post9257363 ?
[22:08] <yandman> basically, I can't do anything that needs authentification the first 3 minutes after logging in
[22:09] <yandman> Lubuntu 10.04
[22:09] <dustoff2010> I really don't think this software will let me get past that ayrecovery window. that's just my guess. but i can try it first. I just had so much trouble getting into ubuntu, I just left my comp all night for fear i might not get in again
[22:09] <yandman> Basically, If I open a terminal and type "sudo su" , I ahve to wait 3 minutes for it to ask for a passwd
[22:09] <yandman> very strange
[22:10] <yandman> once the 3 minutes are past, everything works as it should
[22:10] <pmp6nl> dustoff2010 on boot there is an option to boot from cd.. this will be before ay will have a chance to boot
[22:10] <dustoff2010> ok, i iwll try and get back to you.
[22:10] <pmp6nl> its probably f12 right when your comptuer starts or it could be f2
[22:10] <pmp6nl> look at the bottom of the screen when it shows your comptuer maker
[22:11] <pmp6nl> make sure the windwos cd is in the trauy
[22:11] <dustoff2010> ok will do
[22:11] <phillw> yandman: I'm just seeing if one of the guys who were helping me earlier are available.
[22:11] <yandman> cool, thanks
[22:11] <pmp6nl> ok, send me a message when you get back dustoff2010
[22:23] <javatexan> hey guys
[22:24] <javatexan> and gals
[22:24] <pedro3005> 'lo
[22:24] <ddecator> hey pedro3005
[22:24] <javatexan> I am having trouble, I am trying to install gnome-keyring-sharp, but apt-get says it cant find it; but I found it here http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/source/lucid/gnome/gnome-keyring-sharp
[22:26] <javatexan> I guess I am missing a line in my sources?
[22:26] <ddecator> libgnome-keyring1.0-cil
[22:26] <ddecator> it contains the gnome-keyring-sharp library
[22:27] <javatexan> ddecator:
[22:27] <ddecator> according to synaptic
[22:27] <javatexan> ddecator: cool
[22:29] <dustoff2010> pmp6n, I finally got in to system restore, it will take me bck to april 14,but it will kill them program that is causing the problem and some others. unless you got a better idea
[22:32] <dustoff2010> how do i send a message to someone?
[22:33] <ddecator> dustoff2010: /msg <nick> <message>
[22:33] <dustoff2010> thnx
[22:33] <ddecator> without <>
[22:33] <phillw> yandman: i cannot grab them, guess they are busy :-\
[22:34] <phillw> I will ask around and keep the thread updated for you.
[22:34] <yandman> ok, thanks phill
[22:34] <yandman> there's no rush anyway
[22:34] <yandman> I jsut have to be patient when starting it up
[22:35] <yandman> shame, because I must say Im impressed by lubuntu
[22:35] <yandman> never seen a PC boot so fast!
[22:36] <dustoff2010> hmm sez no such nick
[22:36] <ddecator> might not be on atm
[22:38] <ddecator> you could leave them a memo
[22:38] <dustoff2010> his nick is still in the chat bar on the right
[22:38] <ddecator> who?
[22:38] <dustoff2010> pmpn6l
[22:38] <ddecator> so /msg pmp6nl blahblahblah
[22:38] <ddecator> did you miss the n?
[22:39] <dustoff2010> nope, tried it severl times
[22:39] <ddecator> huh...
[22:39] <ddecator> pmp6nl: ping
[22:42] <pmp6nl> yes?
[22:42] <dustoff2010> hehe
[22:42] <dustoff2010> I finally got in to system restore, it will take me bck to april 14,but it will kill them program that is causing the problem and some others. unless you got a better idea
[22:43] <pmp6nl> you could try deleting the file in ubuntu?
[22:44] <pmp6nl> what do you see under places?
[22:44] <dustoff2010> yeah, that was my original question, but I know if it would affect windows buy just deleting the program
[22:46] <pmp6nl> i dont know what it will do either
[22:46] <pmp6nl> i dont use windows ;)
[22:46] <pmp6nl> you could backup all your files and see
[22:46] <dustoff2010> ok, i will just restore from the april
[22:47] <pmp6nl> ok, good luck
[22:48] <dustoff2010> thnx for your help. i think i like ubuntu though. I probably will do a dual install and work on learning it. bit by bit. thanx
[22:48] <pmp6nl> no problem. thats what i did.  now i have made the full switch and im loving it
[22:49] <dustoff2010> I can't wait
[22:49] <pmp6nl> :) feel free to ask questions as u play around with ubuntu
[22:49] <dustoff2010> ok, c ya
[22:49] <pmp6nl> bye
[22:57] <pmp6nl> any idea as to why my 64bit 10.04 is only showing 3.9 gigs of ram instead of the 4 I have installed?
[23:01] <phillw> pmp6nl: it depends on how they calculate GB :-)
[23:01] <phillw> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Consumer_confusion
[23:04] <pmp6nl> ah, well i was just wondering cause in windows it showed 4, now with my switch to ubuntu it shows 3.9
[23:05] <pmp6nl> gottca
[23:05] <phillw> pmp6nl: well, that's the most likely reason :-)
[23:05] <pmp6nl> phillw: ok thanks, just making sure for some reason ubuntu wasnt having a problem seeing all 4 gigs