[12:01] <SmokeyD|afk> NickPugh, /msg NickServ REGISTER <password>
[12:01] <stuart_> i did a clean format on my primary HD, but had some data on my secondary HD that i wanted to keep
[12:01] <stuart_> if i formatted my secondary HD as well, i still can't mount my secondary HD
[12:02] <bokken> to all: is the fat saved on the primary drive in windows or saved on the drive it is on? if anyone knows
[12:02] <bokken> fat in windows
[12:03] <rockets> What plugin do I need to play real player video with gstreamer
[12:03] <Cyber_Stalker> stuart_:  when you say secondary hard drive do you mean a physically seperate one... or just a partition of it?
[12:03] <ninix> hi, i need some help. I have my kubuntu OS totally installed, configured with all app i need. But i want the exact thing on my Desktop pc. is it possible to do something for copy hd to hd, or it is incompatible ?
[12:03] <puppe> /quite: "going to bed"
[12:04] <rjek> ninix: You can copy the packages list across, and then copy your home directory.
[12:04] <d2leo> vox754: Is there anyway to take storage off of my ext3 partition and add it onto my ntfs one?
[12:04] <pi3> it's the hour of ubuntu, 7:04
[12:04] <DelawareAEA> hello.  If the ubuntu repositories have an old version of the program I want, do I have to uninstall the version I have before compiling the latest from source?
[12:05] <aschedinn> Can anyone think of a reason why none of my SSL based stuff is working?  psftp, https, putty, ssh..connects to localhost and 1 other computer on the network...it hangs on debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
[12:05] <rjek> ninix: But just copying the hard disc sector by sector is likely to not work unless the hardware concerning storage is identical.
[12:05] <ninix> rjek: but it not just that. i configured a lot of software in /etc, like samba etc..
[12:05] <rjek> ninix: Copy those files too :)
[12:05] <vox754> d2leo, there should be by resizing. You need to create unallocated space and resize the other partition. But I've never done it.
[12:05] <ninix> lol i surely don't remember all these files
[12:06] <stuart_> cyber; test
[12:06] <stuart_> hm, no idea how to use nick completion
[12:06] <Cyber_Stalker> ninix: just copy the whole of etc? :D
[12:06] <d2leo> vox754: yeah i did do that, but the unallocated storage goes underneath my ext3 partition and im unable to add anything onto my ntfs.
[12:06] <stuart_> Cyber_Stalker, a physically separate one
[12:06] <Cyber_Stalker> stuart_:  use tab :D
[12:06] <ninix> Cyber_Stalker: i don't think it a good idea.
[12:06] <ninix> rjek: and what did u mean with copy packages list ?
[12:06] <vox754> d2leo, I think you can move the partitions...
[12:06] <stuart_> and it's quite weird that it shoudl disappear just like that
[12:07] <rjek> ninix: Precisely what I said - you can get a list of installed packages out of dpkg, and then apply that list on another machine so they have the same software installed.
[12:07] <sico> i can't apt-get upgrade :(
[12:07] <rjek> THen it's just a matter of copying your data and config over.
[12:07] <sico> and firefox won't run
[12:07] <Cyber_Stalker> hmm stuart_ ok weird, you shouldnt have formatted it by mistake... i cant really help you past that unfortunatly, is it possible that the hard drive has died?? :D
[12:07] <sico> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/update-manager-core_1%3a0.59.23_i386.deb: failed in buffer_read(fd)
[12:07] <ninix> rjek: emm i gonna check
[12:07] <stuart_> well i wouldn't mind formatting it accidentally. it's just that it's weird i can't mount my newly formatted HD, or can't find it
[12:08] <orehon> When I start my computer the fsck start to check the HD and find an error and I get a shell... I just skip it and everything works fine! Who can I run the fsck to fix the possible problem and stop to check it on every boot!
[12:08] <stuart_> couldn't be, it was working fine before i installed ubuntu
[12:08] <rjek> Right, nobody's answered my question, so I'm buggering off. :)
[12:08] <goofy> i need help with my desk top it wont load
[12:08] <car_wat> look that Starting Tomcat
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'NOLOGIN_STR' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MAX_LEN' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CLOSE_SESSIONS' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <rockets> car_wat, pastebin.com
[12:08] <scorp123> !pastebin | car_wat
[12:08] <ubotu> car_wat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:08] <Cyber_Stalker> !pastebin | car_wat
[12:08] <rockets> lol
[12:08] <rockets> now we're flooding the channel with pastebin info
[12:08] <Cyber_Stalker> lol
[12:09] <scorp123> rockets: yeah, sounds like fun :)
[12:09] <sico> anyone have any idea why i can't apt-get upgrade anymore???
[12:09] <_`XeOn_> still having same problem
[12:09] <_`XeOn_> update wont work
[12:09] <orehon> When I start my computer the fsck start to check the HD and find an error and I get a shell... I just skip it and everything works fine! How can I run the fsck to fix the possible problem and stop to check it on every boot!
[12:09] <rockets> sico, a bit more detail?
[12:09] <bokken> stu: my guess, with no real proof, is that it could be trying to work on a windows system but you have ubuntu installed. correct me if i am wrong. or just no fat...
[12:09] <orbisvicis_> !pastebin
[12:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:09] <sico> rockets: i don't know what to say? i pasted the error
[12:09] <car_wat> Starting Tomcat
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'NOLOGIN_STR' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MAX_LEN' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CLOSE_SESSIONS' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <Cyber_Stalker> aahhh ffs
[12:10] <car_wat> after upgrating ubuntu
[12:10] <stuart_> hm. what partitions does ubuntu recognize? ntfs or fat
[12:10] <Cyber_Stalker> some one sort this guy out
[12:10] <ofir> hello all
[12:10] <rockets> sico,  ah. yeah. i have no idea what that means :-D
[12:10] <car_wat> I tried to start tamcat
[12:10] <sico> :( me either :(
[12:10] <car_wat> and saw thar error
[12:10] <car_wat> Starting Tomcat
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'NOLOGIN_STR' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <vox754> !ops
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MAX_LEN' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <scorp123> car_wat: are you actually reading what people tell you???
[12:10] <NigelS> car_wat: don't flood the channel, use pastebin for logs and errors
[12:10] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CLOSE_SESSIONS' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <Cyber_Stalker> stuart_:  i can see my ntfs partitions in ubuntu... i havnt really tried to access them yet altho i cannot mount them
[12:10] <tomaw> car_wat: ?
[12:10] <stuart_> man then where did my hd go :(
[12:10] <webstar88> hello all
[12:10] <Cyber_Stalker> thanks ompaul
[12:11] <stuart_> had some pretty nice porn on there
[12:11] <Cyber_Stalker> that was fetting really annoying :D
[12:11] <scorp123> tomaw: thank you
[12:11] <tomaw> scorp123: it wasn't me :)
[12:11] <scorp123> ompaul: thank you
[12:11] <Cyber_Stalker> was ompaul :D
[12:11] <scorp123> tomaw: thank you  (for correcting me ... LOL)
[12:11] <tomaw> hehe
[12:12] <metalfan> hi
[12:12] <gcarrillo> hi all
[12:12] <webstar88> installed 7.04 all OK except can't record sound, tried different sound setting, no luck, can anyone help?
[12:12] <metalfan> how do i restart the x server without reboot?
[12:12] <goofy> anyone know why my desktop wontload after login
[12:12] <gcarrillo> is there a map program available for ubuntu, that can be used offline?
[12:12] <genii> metalfan:  ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:12] <gcarrillo> metalfan: ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:12] <kitche> metalfan: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop if your on ubuntu xdm if your on xubuntu and kdm for kubuntu
[12:12] <NigelS> metalfan: logging out and logging in will do this.  From a command line with the server down for example /etc/init.d/gdm restart if gdm is your login manager
[12:13] <metalfan> goofy, post /var/log/Xorg.0.log on a pastebin service....paste the link here
[12:13] <kitche> ctrl-alt-backsapce can be bad
[12:13] <metalfan> thx
[12:13] <NigelS> gcarrillo: that's a hard kill of the server, not a good idea, it's not meant for just exiting X
[12:13] <gcarrillo> metalfan: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:13] <gcarrillo> how bout that way
[12:13] <metalfan> gcarrillo, text consoles seems to be disabled in latest ubuntu?
[12:14] <dissection> How do I set read/write persmission for a .conf file
[12:14] <NigelS> dissection: for whom?
[12:14] <dissection> NigelS: I want to set it so I don't have to type sudo each time, to edit proxychains.conf
[12:14] <metalfan> dissection, man chown
[12:14] <gcarrillo> i died
[12:14] <NigelS> dissection: then sudo chmod a+rw to set read/write for everyone
[12:15] <metalfan> gcarrillo, text consoles seems to be disabled in latest ubuntu?
[12:15] <gcarrillo> the VTs are working for me
[12:15] <gcarrillo> although it just logged me out :P
[12:15] <sunken> can someone explain this in dmesg: 'hda-intel: Invalid position buffer, using LPIB read method instead.'
[12:15] <genii> dissection: not chown. chmod
[12:15] <metalfan> NigelS, maybe give rights for his user is better?
[12:15] <Arclite_> Okay, I'm kind of a desktop Ubuntu newb, but I've been using it as a media server for a while. My Macbook Pro (running OS X) is in the shop. I need to work on some Ruby stuff. Does anyone have suggestions for a decent "code" text editor, preferably one targeted for Ruby dev?
[12:15] <metalfan> gcarrillo, oh....sry...
[12:15] <genii> dissection: But that begs the question why you want to change the default permissions
[12:15] <gcarrillo> np :)
[12:15] <goofy> metalfan http://pastebin.com/d69da30bd
[12:16] <scorp123> sunken: sounds like your sound card has minor troubles. Unless you experience serious problems (e.g. weird sounds, or no sound at all) I think you can safely ignore that.
[12:16] <cdiddy> hi
[12:16] <dissection> genii: Why, is it a bad idea? Its only for one file
[12:16] <gcarrillo> hi
[12:16] <NigelS> metalfan: maybe, maybe not; I'm not going to make decisions for him :)
[12:16] <genii> dissection: I never said it was a bad idea. I'm wondering what is it that you require this
[12:16] <sunken> scorp123: the only thing that bugs me is that if I plug in headphones, there is no sound in them
[12:16] <gcarrillo> anybody know of map programs that need you to be online?
[12:16] <NigelS> dissection: incidentally if you are in a terminal and type sudo -s then you'll get a root shell and don't need to preface everything with sudo from then on
[12:16] <gcarrillo> just curious
[12:16] <cdiddy> anybody have any experience configuring dual monitors with dual video cards on ubuntu?
[12:17] <cdiddy> ive tried everything
[12:17] <orehon> How can I skip fsck from system boot ?!
[12:17] <gcarrillo> i mean that *don't* need u to be online
[12:17] <metalfan> goofy, i guess x starts fine, but the last line looks interesting:  AUDIT: Wed Jul 18 18:04:41 2007: 6254 X: client 1 rejected from local host (uid 1000)
[12:17] <metalfan> goofy, whats your users uid?
[12:17] <scorp123> sunken: Intel HDA cards are still very very new .... could be that they don't work yet 100% everywhere
[12:17] <dissection> genii: I have to edit proxychains.conf about 15 times a day so hate having to type the password all the time
[12:17] <scorp123> sunken: I have one of those in my HP dv2108ea laptop ... and it's only since a few weeks that it works there.
[12:17] <gcarrillo> i have intel hda, mine seems ok
[12:18] <sunken> scorp123: ok, will there be any new realeases of ubuntu that will 'fix' my problem?
[12:18] <scorp123> sunken: the problem here is Intel
[12:18] <goofy>  meralfan uid?
[12:18] <dissection> NigelS: Is it the same as "su"?
[12:18] <metalfan> dissection, open a root terminal in gnome
[12:18] <genii> dissection: Just edit instead the sudoers file not to require your user to need to put in password every time. man sudoers will have proper syntax
[12:18] <sunken> scorp123: ok, they fight open system still?!
[12:18] <scorp123> sunken: unless they don't release the full specs the ALSA people can't write new sound drivers, and the people at Canonical can't put them into Ubuntu ...
[12:19] <Cyber_Stalker> !upgrade
[12:19] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:19] <gcarrillo> good answer
[12:19] <NigelS> dissection: same effect basically; it just launches a shell
[12:19] <sunken> scorp123: ok, thank you for your time
[12:19] <Arclite_> Okay, I'm kind of a desktop Ubuntu newb, but I've been using it as a media server for a while. My Macbook Pro (running OS X) is in the shop. I need to work on some Ruby stuff. Does anyone have suggestions for a decent "code" text editor, preferably one targeted for Ruby dev (syntax highlighting a plus)?>
[12:19] <cdiddy> Can anybody here help me?
[12:19] <ubutom> !question
[12:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:20] <NigelS> Arclite_: I personally find kate to be nice though I haven't done ruby - I would be surprised if it didn't have syntax highlighting for it
[12:20] <dissection> I was wondering, when you use the prefer sudo, it basically asks for your user password, and then gives you administrator rights. Isn't that a security risk? I never understood that
[12:20] <scorp123> sunken: something coming to my mind ...
[12:20] <dissection> *prefix
[12:20] <scorp123> sunken: your machine ... is that a laptop?
[12:20] <goofy> metal fan wht do you mean by uid
[12:20] <cdiddy> i have tried and tried and searched and searched, and all I want to do is be able to setup two monitors with two video cards
[12:21] <sunken> scorp123: yes it is, sorry for not telling you that
[12:21] <cdiddy> I havent had any luck
[12:21] <vslash> ca roule ?
[12:21] <sunken> scorp123: it has 1 output and 1 input and pcspeakers
[12:21] <scorp123> sunken: take a close look at the volume controls ... Chances are that it has additional channels like "PCM2" which are set to the minimum. Turning that one up helped a lot in my case.
[12:22] <NigelS> dissection: well the question isn't that exactly since there's the alternative of an enabled root account to look into.  The only question then is, is it worse,better or the same sec wise as having a seperate root account
[12:22] <sunken> scorp123: will check again
[12:22] <metalfan> im trying to get rid of the "Composite" xorg extension......in the xorg extension section i have:  Option         "Composite" "Disable"       but after login:    xdpyinfo |grep Comp   still displays Composite?
[12:22] <NigelS> dissection: when ubuntu was first released the debate happened and it was felt that disabling root was fine and using sudo was the way forward
[12:22] <likwidtek> Trying to get Desktop Effects to run on my machine.  I have a VT8378 S3 UniChrome Integrated Video.  When I enable desktop effects I get a solid white screen.  Anyone want to lend some advise?
[12:22] <likwidtek> I'm running Feisty
[12:23] <kbrooks> metalfan, ctrl+alt+bksp buttons
[12:23] <metalfan> kbrooks, for what?
[12:23] <kbrooks> metalfan, restart X11
[12:23] <NigelS> dissection: having 1 pw makes it more likely, for one thing, that people won't do what they so often do and make a really easy root or user pw because they don't like remembering two.  They also choose only slight variants to set them apart. Using sudo also avoids people, nearly by default, leaving themselves logged in
[12:23] <metalfan> already did
[12:25] <kbrooks> dissection, also, both ways have exactly one weakness
[12:25] <dissection> NigelS: And is it a problem to stay logged in? Because if someone were to hack the system and get the user pass, he'd get admin access anyway using sudo
[12:26] <samwize> does anyone know the md5sum hash for xubuntu 7.04 alternate cd?
[12:26] <Cyber_Stalker> hey tiax, i could just use " gksu "update-manager -c" "
[12:26] <NigelS> dissection: if someone hacks in why is it easier to get the user pw than the root?
[12:27] <NigelS> dissection: if you can brute force the user hash you can do the same for the root one unless the root one is more complex.  The idea is that you don't use a simple pw for your user acct
[12:27] <NemesisD> im about to partition a disk for ubuntu with ext3, can anyone argue that XFS or ReiserFS or JFS are significantly better?
[12:28] <NemesisD> im currently just doing this as a test on an old 20gb drive but i plan to use this computer as a larger backup file server if that's relevant
[12:28] <kbrooks> NemesisD, dooon't even look at reiserfs
[12:28] <MilitantPotato> Why isn't Gdesklets working, any ideas?
[12:28] <NemesisD> kbrooks, hehe whys that
[12:28] <NemesisD> i heard it was good
[12:28] <PriceChild> !best | NemesisD
[12:28] <ubotu> NemesisD: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[12:28] <dissection> NigelS: No I'm saying.. Say the root account is disabled (for security?).. So if someone hacks into the PC and gets the username, and pass, he could simply use sudo using the same pass and get admin access. Or if a user has enabled root access and stays logged in, I think someone who hacks into the system has root access again. So aren't both the same?
[12:29] <kbrooks> NemesisD, the founder got imprisoned for allegedly kidnapping
[12:29] <samwize> why isnt the xubuntu 7.04 alternate cd hash listed?
[12:29] <Cyber_Stalker> is there any one here that could help me access my NTFS HD... i can see it in nautilus but i get an error about mounting it, what would be the best/easyest way to access it
[12:29] <NemesisD> kbrooks, that doesn't mean his work is bad
[12:29] <sunken> my headphone jack does not work for me
[12:29] <kitche> samwize: it is
[12:30] <MilitantPotato> oh yea ignore the newbie :P
[12:30] <genii> dissection: Only trusted users are supposed to have sudo rights on the computer. So only 1 or a few ppl's actual user accounts could conceivable be used to hijack your box
[12:30] <kbrooks> MilitantPotato, um
[12:30] <samwize> kitche: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes -  only xubuntu 6.10 hash is there
[12:30] <MilitantPotato> :D
[12:30] <bjames> stupid question:  can tar take standard input:
[12:30] <kbrooks> MilitantPotato, clarify not working
[12:30] <genii> dissection: These trusted users would also use root privelege only when needed.
[12:30] <bjames> bunzip2 -c "${1}" > tar -xf;;
[12:31] <kbrooks> bjames, don't
[12:31] <Cyber_Stalker> !NTFS
[12:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:31] <MilitantPotato> It opens a window, with nothing in it, after one min or so it closes
[12:31] <dissection> genii: Ah so you could create user accounts for whom sudo is disabled? Okay, that makes sense.
[12:31] <NigelS> dissection: nope.  That wouldn't be how it works.  The danger of being left logged in is that you either are vulnerable to someone with physical access performing unauthed ops or that you launch a process with root privs that introduces an attack vector since an exploit targetting it could then run with root privs.  So they aren't equivalent nope.  Can you think of an instance though where someone could hack into a computer and get the user account where they coul
[12:31] <kbrooks> bjames, tar -xf $1
[12:31] <kbrooks> bjames, do that
[12:31] <kitche> samwize: you don't look hard do you :) http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/MD5SUMS
[12:31] <kbrooks> bjames, xf does automatic detection
[12:31] <blizzow> anyone know what packages should be installed to get xen running in gutsy?
[12:32] <bjames> kbrooks: what will -xf auto-decompress?
[12:32] <genii> dissection: Only the first user created on an ubuntu install has sudo rights by default. All others afterwards must specifically be added to the list of trusted users.
[12:32] <kbrooks> bjames, bz2 and gz, dunno about others
[12:32] <bjames> .tar.gz, .tgz, ..tar.bz, tbz,
[12:32] <bjames> including the shorthand?
[12:32] <kbrooks> bjames, .tar.gz == .tgz
[12:32] <samwize> kitche: i would never had been able to find that
[12:32] <bjames> I know
[12:32] <bjames> hence "the shorthand"
[12:33] <kitche> samwize: it's right on the download site for xubuntu
[12:33] <kbrooks> bjames, yes including that
[12:33] <ninix> is there a way to REDOWNLOAD all installed packages ?
[12:33] <ninix> not reinstall ?
[12:33] <juano__> can someone tell me why the repos are so slow ?
[12:33] <bjames> damn - I just spent a while creating a script that will look at the file type given, check for the right decompression program, then run it
[12:33] <d4rkmonkey> !gutsy
[12:33] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[12:33] <Orraj> do coiled Ethernet cables loss connectivity? Ive been so.
[12:33] <d4rkmonkey> !ipod
[12:33] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:34] <vox754> ninix, yes. It is a pain. The repositories are there feel free to redownload everything.
[12:34] <dissection> NigelS, genii: Okay, so in your opinion, which is better. (1) Having root account disabled and using as normal user with sudo (2) Having root account enabled with a complex password of say 20 characters and be responsible enough to log yourself always, and disable sudo
[12:34] <d4rkmonkey> !rockbox
[12:34] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[12:34] <ninix> vox754: but with a command line ?
[12:34] <kitche> bjames: with the newest version of gnu tar it autodetects the compression
[12:34] <Mohd> Guys, I have a problem here. I've downloaded the "Updates" and now I am about to  install them, but i got this wierd message "Another synaptic is running"
[12:34] <d4rkmonkey> bye!
[12:34] <dissection> *logout that is
[12:34] <Mohd> Any one know a solution? I am new to Linux.
[12:34] <dissection> Mohd: You need to close your synaptic package manager
[12:35] <Mohd> Dissesction : I dont have it open in the first place?
[12:35] <genii> dissection: Consider, doing an oopsie like rm -Rf /* while in root
[12:35] <bjames> kitche: I will test what files it can handle, then remove the excess from the script
[12:35] <pike_> Mohd: try sudo pkill synaptic
[12:35] <bjames> cheers
[12:35] <vox754> ninix, I would guess you should use "wget" read the manual page "man wget"
[12:35] <NigelS> dissection: I'll answer that if you answer my question :)
[12:35] <Orraj> Mohd the add/remove window is also a synaptic
[12:35] <dissection> NigelS: What question? Your text was too long, and your last sentence was broken ;[
[12:35] <NigelS> dissection: it's no use positing usage cases that don't reflect reality I would also add
[12:35] <nikin> is there a program like moviemaker on windows in ubuntu? i want to do some work on my screen capture videos... witch are in ogg format (theora+vorbis)
[12:36] <genii> dissection: sudo is basically a tool to protect us from ourselves, not so much from the outside
[12:36] <ninix> lol... nvm then. i got 1440 packs.
[12:36] <MilitantPotato> Reinstalled GDesklets and still it opens a window with nothing in it, and stops responding
[12:36] <estudiantes_> with sudo you can protect from everybody
[12:36] <dissection> Hmm
[12:36] <likwidtek> how do I change my video driver?
[12:37] <kitche> MilitantPotato: did you install some widgets along with it?
[12:37] <MilitantPotato> System>admin>restricted driver manager
[12:37] <dusk> anyone know why fglrx freezes after a few minutes in feisty?
[12:37] <kitche> likwidtek: change your video driver to what?
[12:37] <MilitantPotato> kitche: no
[12:38] <NigelS> dissection: it shouldn't be too long
[12:38] <NigelS> dissection: Can you think of an instance though where someone could hack into a computer and get the user account where they couldn't also get the root one since tghey are both stored in the same (root owned) file
[12:38] <dissection> NigelS: It ended "Can you think of an instance though where someone could hack into a computer and  get the user account where they coul
[12:38] <kitche> MilitantPotato: well that's most likely why
[12:38] <nikin> is there a good video editor for OGG (theora+vorbis) video files in ubuntu?
[12:38] <NigelS> dissection: was what I said
[12:38] <MilitantPotato> it did install lots of applets on its own
[12:38] <dissection> Hrm
[12:38] <kitche> MilitantPotato: yeah but I think you have to enable it
[12:38] <likwidtek> well I think I am using the vesa driver.  I have an s3 unichrome integrated driver
[12:39] <MilitantPotato> Ok, so where do I start?
[12:39] <likwidtek> and I am trying to get "desktop Effects" to work
[12:39] <nikin> almost every other movieformat will also do :D trancoding is not a problem :D
[12:39] <kitche> likwidtek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is debian/ubuntu's way
[12:39] <estudiantes_> with sudo you can protect your computer from a whole network
[12:39] <Perun> is there somewhere a xen kernel >2.6.20 repository for feisty? (unsupported or supported)
[12:39] <kitche> likwidtek: and vesa won't work with desktop effects
[12:39] <dusk> is there a fix for fglrx freezes?
[12:39] <maki> hello
[12:39] <likwidtek> yeah, so sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will hook me up?  :)
[12:39] <genii> Perun: good question, I haven't seen one yet
[12:39] <dissection> NigelS: I normally use 25 character passwords for something *really* important though. So can they both be hacked the same way if someone used the same method he could/would to obtain my user pass?
[12:40] <maki> where can i find the latest gutsy gibon dev iso image ?
[12:40] <samwize> is SAO best for .iso burning?
[12:40] <metalfan> whats the ubuntu version to gentoos "rc-update" ?
[12:40] <vox754> !gutsy
[12:40] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[12:40] <dusk> !fglrx
[12:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:40] <likwidtek> kitche I have a bunch to choose from.  Which do i choose?
[12:40] <genii> metalfan sudo apt-get update
[12:40] <metalfan> thx
[12:41] <metalfan> genii, h...wait
[12:41] <kitche> likwidtek: for the vesa driver or for the unichrome one?
[12:41] <NigelS> dissection: well the question is one of search-time within the search space; there's a level of complexity in a pw which takes it beyond the search-time that would be feasible for an attacker and as such anything above that level of complexity is arguably superfluous from an attack point of view
[12:41] <sergiol> hello
[12:41] <Orraj> anyone want to explain drivers to me? I also saw them as independent software that played mediator between the computer and the new hardware, but in linux I don't see a easy install for drivers.
[12:41] <metalfan> genii, why do you try to help if you dont have a clue?
[12:41] <likwidtek> the integrated video is s3 unichrome
[12:41] <sergiol> can i ask a simple non ubuntu question here?
[12:41] <metalfan> genii, rc-update is the runlevel editor in gentoo
[12:41] <likwidtek> and I see a listing in there for s3
[12:41] <lousygarua> when pressing Alt+F2, does gnome runs a certain 'launcher app' or is it a built in command? can i run the same dialog from command line?
[12:41] <hamza> any one knows how i can view tv on ubuntu...my tvcard is already installed
[12:42] <sergiol> is there any Spanish here?
[12:42] <pike_> lousygarua: its a gnome thing
[12:42] <hamza> any one knows how i can view tv on ubuntu...my tvcard is already installed
[12:42] <lousygarua> pike_: bummer :) thanks
[12:42] <kitche> likwidtek: you can use s3 but there is a unichrome driver not sure if it's installed by default or not
[12:42] <MilitantPotato> Hamz there's a program for that
[12:42] <nickrud> Orraj, the short answer is that all known drivers are already in the kernel, you don't have to install drivers. And the ones that aren't aren't easy to install
[12:42] <dissection> NigelS: And btw I was referring to those who could steal remotely, not someone who has physical access
[12:42] <pike_> lousygarua: what are you trying to do it is easy enough to do from command line
[12:42] <likwidtek> kitche s3 didnt work how do I get unichrome installed?
[12:42] <likwidtek> VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video
[12:43] <genii> metalfan: Ah, OK, sorry. Gentoo is not my usual thing. For runlevels I would normally just use init then
[12:43] <hamza> any one knows how i can view tv on ubuntu...my tvcard is already installed
[12:43] <NigelS> dissection: Yes I know, what I said was referring to that
[12:43] <MilitantPotato> Weird
[12:43] <MilitantPotato> I wonder why it's not working..
[12:43] <nickrud> !es | sergiol
[12:43] <ubotu> sergiol: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:43] <lousygarua> pike_: actually what i wanted to do is add a menu item to fluxbox for "run application", without opening a shell in fluxbox
[12:43] <kitche> hamza: install a tv tuner application
[12:43] <vox754> likwidtek, you need the "via" driver. It is included.
[12:43] <Orraj> nickrud so if it doesn't plug and play....im out of luck
[12:43] <genii> metalfan You want certain tty to always run at certain runlevels ?
[12:44] <hamza> kitche i have tvtime but nothing happens on that ...it opens with a blue screen and then closes itself
[12:44] <sergiol> i have a computer with spanish keyboard and i want to get answer to this question: where can i write the tilde character with no character below it?
[12:44] <nickrud> Orraj, not entirely, but in general. What do you need a driver for? (and please don't say winmodem :)
[12:44] <sergiol> i only have  key marked on my keyboard
[12:45] <Jay123> Hello I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 today and I am having MAJOR! booting problems can someone please help me?!
[12:45] <neil-> Jay123, define major booting problems?
[12:45] <likwidtek> vox754 thanks
[12:45] <neil-> Give details, and someone will help
[12:45] <Jay123> OK
[12:45] <hamzzzz> kitche i have tvtime but nothing happens on that ...it opens with a blue screen and then closes itself
[12:45] <Orraj> nickrud: its for a Ethernet card. and it said the disk had the linux drivers on it but its been out smarting me
[12:45] <MilitantPotato> Is anyone familure with desklets?
[12:45] <Jay123> I put the live CD in then waited for it to load.... then clicked install waited for it to install the whole OS then restarted once it finished now it says its missing hard drive
[12:46] <vox754> likwidtek, what motherboard is that? You have to beware that there are problems with that driver and 3D.
[12:46] <carl_> How can I repair "broken packages"?
[12:46] <carl_> "Could not apply changes!
[12:46] <nickrud> Orraj, what kind of ethernet card? Linux supports a huge number of them
[12:46] <Jay123> It will only boot if the CD is in the drive
[12:46] <vecina> How do you put a password on an archive file?
[12:46] <Jay123> Otherwise after my BIOS boots it says no operating system
[12:46] <MilitantPotato> Jay did you install it to the drive?
[12:47] <carl_> Easy Ubuntu reports error: "Fix broken packages first."
[12:47] <vox754> likwidtek, here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-via/+bug/43154
[12:47] <MilitantPotato> There's a shortcut on your desktop
[12:47] <Orraj> netgear
[12:47] <dissection> NigelS: Sorry if I seem to be coming back to the same question. But so far as far as the explaination I've received goes, the problem with creating a root account is the user's own irresponsibility, i.e., using a simple password, more or less the same from the user pass, or typing a command that could delete important files, or staying logged in as root, etc. So is it basically the user's behaviour that could result in compromising the system's security or
[12:47] <Jay123> I installed it to my hard drive...
[12:47] <Orraj> nickrud netgear
[12:47] <samwize> what write method does infrarecorder require for burning an ISO?
[12:47] <sabgenton> do u need to have joliet suport for some cd to work?
[12:47] <[Neurotic] > Heya everyone - is there any reason anyone can think of that would cause a network dropout when using vncviewer to access another ubuntu machine over a wireless network? (and it's just this machine, any other machine is fine)
[12:47] <sabgenton> or do u just  get shorten file names
[12:48] <Jay123> I partitioned my whole hard drive which had XP on to load Ubuntu with it
[12:48] <nickrud> Orraj, if you type lspci in a terminal, it'll give you a line about your ethernet card. paste *just that one line* here
[12:48] <Wolfpaws> hai. Have a question; how do you disable xscreensaver?
[12:48] <carl_> apt-get fix-broken-packages ???
[12:48] <nickrud> carl_, apt-get install -f      first
[12:48] <Jay123> so does anybody know how to fix my issue?
[12:48] <Cubey> meh, how do you kill a process that won't die? aMule froze just trying to set it up for use and the process is in a 'zombie' state and won't end/die when killed
[12:48] <NigelS> dissection: well to return to the question I originally asked; the issue is whether a seperate root pw is better, the same or worse than having 1 acct and using sudo.  It's not about one mechanism being flawed, it's about whether, in the final analysis, there is any actual difference
[12:48] <carl_>  nickrud Thanks
[12:49] <Orraj> nickrud okay might take me a second
[12:49] <Cubey> I tried 'kill' as well via console with it's PID
[12:49] <nickrud> Orraj, np, I'll be around for about an hour
[12:49] <dissection> NigelS: Is it possible to set a different password for sudo commands?
[12:49] <NigelS> dissection: so it might be the user's behaviour, it might not be, but I don't think it's the determinant factor in the design decision
[12:49] <Cubey> nor can I reopen it due to the stuck process
[12:49] <dissection> NigelS: I think its using the same password thats bothering me :D
[12:49] <vox754> Jay123, that is a documented issue you can find in web pages. The short remedies is to unplug all hard drives, reset the BIOS memory CMOS. And plug the drives setting a different mode for them in the BIOS.
[12:49] <dusk> i remember seeing an experimental alternative to fglrx, but forget the name
[12:50] <clawtros> avivo
[12:50] <NigelS> dissection: sudo invokes an account so it is not a seperate function in that sense and so, afaik, you can't distinguish nope
[12:50] <Jay123> i looked all over for the answer
[12:50] <Cyber_Stalker> !mp3
[12:50] <elmo40> WinAmp not running
[12:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:50] <crippler> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?
[12:50] <crippler> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?
[12:50] <zun> hi
[12:50] <NigelS> dissection: Yes, I see that, but as I was saying above, is it really any less/more secure?  In what situation could you gain one password and not the other unless security was already lax?
[12:51] <NigelS> dissection: if it was poor then the kind of user who sets a weak pw would, if presented with 2 accts they must think of pw for set weak ones, poss weaker, in both cases
[12:51] <Jay123> vox754, your saying dissect my computer and reset the bios (how) then replug it back in?
[12:51] <clawtros> crippler, assuming the driver works - sometimes the mixer volume defaults to zero
[12:51] <vox754> dissection, one of the advantages of using sudo is that you do not have to remember a different password. Most probably you can change that behavior but you may need to hack into the documentation yourself.
[12:51] <NigelS> dissection: if the user sets strong pws then they will set a strong pw in both case and because of the hash-computaton time, the search-time for a search space of 8 characters will be large beyond feasible calculation in almost all cases
[12:52] <crippler> clawtros, yes i realize that. it's not. is there a terminal command I can use to reinstall the sound driver or fix it?
[12:52] <MilitantPotato> :(
[12:52] <Cyber_Stalker> "you do not have the decoder required to play this file you may need to install the necisarry plugins" and those plugins would be?
[12:52] <MilitantPotato> Cyber
[12:52] <MilitantPotato> searc XMMS
[12:52] <MilitantPotato> search*
[12:52] <Jay123> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 now when I try to boot off the hard drive it says it's missing an operating system does anybody know where I can get a solution to this problem?
[12:53] <MilitantPotato> Jay, install Ubuntu to the OS :)
[12:53] <Cubey> How do you kill a process that won't die? aMule froze just trying to set it up for use and the process is in a 'zombie' state and won't end/die when killed.
[12:53] <dissection> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZBA0SKmQy8 <-- lol
[12:53] <vox754> Jay123, yes. The way to reset the BIOS varies among models of motherboards, it could be a button, or you may need to short circuit a few pins wit a jumper cap. This should be explained in your motherboard manual. Or you may browse your model on the web.
[12:53] <nickrud> Orraj, be back shortly
[12:53] <NigelS> Jay123: describe your hard disk setup to me please
[12:53] <MilitantPotato> also, make the linux partition /
[12:53] <crippler> lol
[12:53] <Jay123> its just a 20 gig all partitioned for ubuntu
[12:53] <_6StringKng_> your hoeless
[12:53] <_6StringKng_> hopeless*
[12:53] <NigelS> vox754: why on earth would he want to do that?
[12:53] <crippler> prolly right 6
[12:53] <likwidtek> DUDE
[12:53] <NigelS> Jay123: there's just the one drive?
[12:53] <_6StringKng_> haha, you'll get it
[12:53] <vox754> NigelS, well, it worked for me and for others...
[12:53] <crippler> clawtros, yes i realize that. it's not. is there a terminal command I can use to reinstall the sound driver or fix it?
[12:53] <likwidtek> this is way complicated
[12:53] <Cyber_Stalker> MilitantPotato: should i sudo apt-get xmms?
[12:53] <Jay123> YES
[12:53] <MilitantPotato> Cyber, you can
[12:53] <crippler> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?
[12:54] <MilitantPotato> or go to Applications then Add/Remove
[12:54] <Cyber_Stalker> ok
[12:54] <likwidtek> isn't there an easier way to change my driver to the VIA instead of VESA without having to go through the entire xorg configurator?
[12:54] <MilitantPotato> type XMMS into the search bar
[12:54] <Cyber_Stalker> is xmms a player or the necissary plugins?
[12:54] <MilitantPotato> player
[12:54] <MilitantPotato> It's basically winamp
[12:54] <likwidtek> isnt there a conf file I can just change to VIA
[12:54] <Cyber_Stalker> grr
[12:54] <Cyber_Stalker> doing and upgrade lol cant access synaptic
[12:54] <MilitantPotato> bummer :(
[12:55] <zun> aptitude works?
[12:55] <MilitantPotato> Can anyone help me with desklets
[12:55] <MilitantPotato> Please? :)
[12:55] <Cyber_Stalker> u know how many times i have ctrl - c'ed this upgrade lol
[12:55] <Jay123> I'm just going to download XP again and use it because im not going to risk bricking my computer messing with the bios just to get a stupid operating system to work
[12:55] <NigelS> vox754: it just seems like an odd solution
[12:55] <vox754> likwidtek, it is called "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" very easy, just change one line.
[12:55] <zun> what's wrong with your box jay?
[12:55] <MilitantPotato> Jay are you sure you partitioned the HD right?
[12:55] <neil-> likwidtek, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:55] <Jay123> I only have 1 HD
[12:55] <MilitantPotato> If you didn't set the main drive bootable your bios won't load it
[12:55] <Jay123> it says theres not operating system
[12:56] <NigelS> vox754: what's the exact bug here?
[12:56] <MilitantPotato> 1 HD yea
[12:56] <crippler> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?
[12:56] <MilitantPotato> but you need at least two partitions
[12:56] <Jay123> why
[12:56] <MilitantPotato> Main linux, and a swap
[12:56] <MilitantPotato> have you read the setup instructions?
[12:56] <vox754> NigelS, I know. But when you are desperate you take those decisions and then wonder why you wasted and entire day doing other LBA stuff.
[12:56] <Cyber_Stalker> !dual boot
[12:56] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:56] <NigelS> Jay123: did you let it auto-partition?
[12:56] <Jay123> I just did what the live CD told me
[12:56] <likwidtek> lol nm xorg.conf
[12:56] <likwidtek> heh
[12:56] <Jay123> yea
[12:56] <likwidtek> yay thanks guys
[12:56] <Jay123> I partitioned the whole entire drive
[12:57] <AaronMT> Hi, how can I update Firefox to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[12:57] <twocarlo_> lol
[12:57] <MilitantPotato> So I'm SOL on getting help with desklets?
[12:57] <NigelS> Jay123: You've checked the BIOS to make sure it now wants to boot from the HD and not just the CD?
[12:57] <Jay123> yes
[12:57] <twocarlo_> well jay ubuntu needs a linux partition and swap partition
[12:57] <Jay123> HD first floppy second cd drive third
[12:58] <crippler> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?
[12:58] <Jay123> why didnt the live cd take care of that
[12:58] <likwidtek> ok!  I think its running the via driver now.  I no longer get a white screen when i try to enable desktop effects
[12:58] <NigelS> twocarlo_: it should at least find GRUB before it realises there's no swap and in any event linux can use a swap file it's just a crap way of doing it
[12:58] <likwidtek> now it says "cannot enable desktop effects"  hahaha
[12:58] <likwidtek> ARGH!
[12:58] <genii> Jay123: When you do from a terminal off the livecd: sudo fdisk -l     can you pastebin the result of that command?
[12:58] <likwidtek> any ideas?
[12:58] <crimsun> crippler: I need your `lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/card*/codec*` pastebinned.
[12:58] <Orraj> nickrud: need help with some complications....
[12:58] <NigelS> Jay123: it almost certainly did unless you overrode it
[12:58] <twocarlo_> thanks NigelS
[12:58] <Jay123> I can't do anything except get into the live cd
[12:59] <Jay123> so if the partitioned arent the problem then what is
[12:59] <MilitantPotato> When I try to enable desktop effects I get this message: "The Composite extension is not available"
[12:59] <genii> Jay123: grub (bootloader) may not have installed properly
[12:59] <Jay123> whats the solution?
[12:59] <NigelS> Jay123: your BIOS is complaining that it can't find a boot loader, this is odd, and we need more info to work out what's going on, following genii's instructions to begin with would be good
[12:59] <metalfan> MilitantPotato, its should be described in the howto you read
[12:59] <Cyber_Stalker> MilitantPotato: have you tried #ubuntu-effects
[12:59] <twocarlo_> you can use gparted
[01:00] <Cyber_Stalker> ?/j #ubuntu-effects
[01:00] <twocarlo_> jay123:you can use gparted
[01:00] <NigelS> Jay123: normallt you see that error if, for example, the BIOS can't find a bootable drive - i,e, it is set to boot off floppy/CD but there is no such disc availab le
[01:00] <vox754> likwidtek, I told you to look up for the related bug. The VIA module will not work with most 3D, and that includes desktop effects, because the module is not perfect. I suggest you buy a separate video card if you want visual goodies. Blame VIA.
[01:00] <Jay123> I don't even know how to get into the terminal i've never used linux before
[01:00] <MilitantPotato> Yea cyber, no-one answered.
[01:00] <genii> Jay123: Other possibles: grub installed to hda# partition instead of just hda master boot record.
[01:00] <crippler> crimsun, can you message me on AIM @ crippler3421 or here
[01:00] <Cyber_Stalker> lol just keep trying :D
[01:00] <NigelS> Jay123: we will tell you
[01:00] <Cyber_Stalker> they do eventually
[01:00] <NigelS> Jay123: are you in linux atm with the live cd?
[01:00] <crimsun> crippler: why?
[01:00] <nickrud> Orraj, what's that?
[01:00] <crippler> nvm
[01:00] <Jay123> no im on xp on another computer
[01:01] <lousygarua> does thunderbird + gmail + smtp works on ubuntu? i can only  get pop to work and i've tried many online guides. is it a bug? or am i missing someting?
[01:01] <Orraj> nickrud i did the cmd u told me to do and the ethernet info isnt right
[01:01] <NemesisD> great, i just installed ubuntu on this machine using the alt install disc, the installation went through without any problems, and now when i boot, grub loads and then the screen goes black and just hangs there
[01:01] <nickrud> Orraj, it's what the card itself reports
[01:02] <syntaxx> i have a problem in my cups server.. when someone pauses the printer on their client all other queue is paused anyone know how to fix that?
[01:02] <martyn> could someone please tell me how to upgrade firefox <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:02] <NigelS> Jay123:if you could boot into linux on the affected machine we can see if there's info on it that will help
[01:02] <Orraj> nickrud why would a netear card say realtek?
[01:02] <metalfan> NemesisD, press esc wgen grub starts and choose safe mode, then you can rectify the situation
[01:02] <nickrud> Orraj, probably because that's the chip it uses
[01:02] <NemesisD> wow nm it just finished booting
[01:02] <NemesisD> it really shouldn't take 5 minutes to boot given the hardware
[01:02] <Jay123> Can you tell me a general solution to my problem that will fix it, because it takes forever for that live cd to load
[01:02] <NemesisD> unless its the hard drive, its quite old
[01:02] <AaronMT> Hi, how can I update Firefox to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:03] <likwidtek> vox754 oh i am sorry I didn't read that
[01:03] <vox754> NigelS, he cannot boot under any circumstances. After the POST the single error "not Operating system found" or something appears. This is a known problem.
[01:03] <vox754> likwidtek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-via/+bug/43154
[01:03] <likwidtek> yeah I will prolly get another vid card
[01:03] <likwidtek> thanks man
[01:03] <zun> it's in firefox's help menu ... help -> check for updates
[01:03] <twocarlo_> jay123: you have to buy another cdrom
[01:03] <Jay123> no no no
[01:03] <AaronMT> Zun, it's greyed out
[01:03] <Orraj> nickrud okay makes sense  : ethernet controller: realtek semiconductor CD. Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139 C+
[01:03] <zun> try help -> about, which version is it
[01:04] <crimsun> AaronMT: we disable it, because we handle updates separately.
[01:04] <AaronMT> Zun, <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:04] <twocarlo_> jay123:well it happened to me too, thats what i did
[01:04] <Orraj> nickrud (rev 10)
[01:04] <NigelS> vox754: can you link to some particular bug please then? Because OS not found is an extremely generic problem and means simply that, so what's the actual bug with the installer and GRUB that's causing that?
[01:04] <Jay123> The cdrom works fine it boots to it
[01:05] <zun> AaronMT, are you on a liveCD or any other read-only variant?
[01:05] <nickrud> Orraj, ok, now type lsmod | grep 8139too  ; you should get back a line or two
[01:05] <AaronMT> crimsun, what is the proper method?
[01:05] <vox754> NigelS, it is not an Ubuntu bug. It seems to be like a BIOS, motherboard, static electricity bug. Let me browse.
[01:05] <twocarlo_> jay123:can you enumerate your problem please
[01:05] <zun> aha
[01:05] <AaronMT> zun: no, normal regular install
[01:05] <crimsun> AaronMT: wait for it to appear in $release-security
[01:05] <kitche> vox754: OS not found means the bios can not find an OS to boot
[01:05] <Jay123> I installed 7.04 and now it says theres no operating system found
[01:05] <NigelS> vox754: sounds like hocus pocus to me; the people resetting their BIOS had prob left the target HD out of the boot list and when they reset their BIOS it defaulted to including it
[01:06] <NigelS> vox754: they they ascribe the reset to fixing it
[01:06] <martyn> it's possible to download Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> but how do you upgrade
[01:06] <NigelS> Jay123: boot into linux and connect to IRC from there please, then we can try and work out what's going on;  OS not found implies the bootloader wasn't installed properly or the BIOS isn't looking for it correctly
[01:07] <kbrosnan> martyn: wait for ubuntu to ship the update themselves
[01:07] <Orraj> nickrud 8139too 27648 0 ( line break ) mii 6528 2 8139cp,8139too
[01:07] <Jay123> if i boot into the live cd will you help me
[01:07] <NigelS> Jay123: the people here will of course try and help, that's what the channel is for
[01:08] <Orraj> nickrud can i ask what we are looking at :D?
[01:08] <genii> work calls, afk 5-7 mins
[01:08] <nickrud> Orraj, ok, your ethernet card is recognized, and has loaded the driver: 8139too . So, if you're not getting internet, you have other problems
[01:08] <Jay123> alright ill be back hopefully in like 5
[01:08] <vox754> NigelS, yes, some people do not need to reset the BIOS, some just need to detect again the Hard drive. That is my point. But you are right, we are arguing about the same thing.
[01:08] <Jay123> brb
[01:08] <zun> does anyone have experience getting apache2 and mono to work?
[01:08] <martyn> kbrosnan: thanks
[01:08] <zun> I checked a number of guides, I got it installed fine but can't get asp files to execute
[01:09] <_6StringKng_> so I"m retarded, how do I update to the latest firefox, lol
[01:09] <_6StringKng_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:09] <Orraj> okay well thanks for helping me out, I feel like ive learned a bit about drivers. btw is there any reason that the terminal app would restart the comp?
[01:09] <nickrud> Orraj, that lsmod command? it shows all the modules that the kernel has loaded, a lot of those are drivers for hardware you have.
[01:09] <Cyber_Stalker> whats with this person and using diffrent nicks asking how to update firefox...
[01:10] <vox754> _6StringKng_, maybe enabling backports.
[01:10] <blizzow> Anyone had luck installing Xen with gutsy?
[01:10] <_6StringKng_> ok, and how would I do that
[01:10] <vox754> !backports
[01:10] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[01:11] <nickrud> _6StringKng_, you have two choices: waiting for the update (apparently it's a security one, so it shouldn't be long) or installing the one from mozilla.
[01:11] <Scrippie> hello
[01:11] <Absenth> When I enable Beryl, or Compiz as my window manager using the Beryl-manager I lose all of my window borders.  I have the Emerald Theme Manager installed, but it doesn't apper to be loading.  Any suggestions on where I should start?
[01:12] <conorkirkpatrick> Absenth: Your problem was the reason I stopped using Beryl :(
[01:12] <_6StringKng_> ok
[01:13] <nickrud> Absenth, I had that problem intermittently (I quit beryl for other reasons) there's a right click menu option reload window decorator that always got borders back for me.
[01:13] <Orraj> anyone know the major company that gave the option of ordering a computer w/ ubuntu preinstalled?
[01:13] <NigelS> Orraj: dell has kinda
[01:14] <vox754> Orraj, Dell. Visit ubuntuforums.org for more information.
[01:14] <Absenth> nickrud: yeah, somewhere I think there's a config problem, because that doesn't seem to work for me.
[01:14] <genii> Those dell ubuntu boxes are only available right now in US
[01:14] <NigelS> yup, hence the kinda
[01:14] <NigelS> and the story about them seems to change every week
[01:15] <NigelS> "they're cheaper, they're more expensive"
[01:15] <NigelS> so who knows :) but Michael Dell uses ubuntu
[01:16] <reed026> You could always but the walmart special and install Ubuntu yourself
[01:16] <reed026> buy*
[01:17] <zun> does anyone have experience setting up apache2 and mod-mono? :)
[01:17] <reed026> I do with Apache2 but no mod-mono
[01:17] <zun> darn
[01:17] <zun> I can't get asp to execute...
[01:17] <reed026> what are you trying to do with mod-mono?
[01:17] <zun> set up an asp dev server
[01:18] <zun> but the .aspx won't execute, of course it doesn't work out of the box, I didn't expect it to but I don't know exactly what else to check
[01:18] <g0dd3ss> hai
[01:18] <reed026> zun, maybe this will help : http://www.mono-project.com/Mod_mono#Configuring_Mod_Mono
[01:18] <g0dd3ss> can someoone plz recommend me a good gnutella client for ubuntu
[01:19] <zun> hmm I've read a nubmer of'em
[01:19] <StavmaN> hello, i have a question about ubuntu 7.04 and NTFS. would it slow me down to store on my files on an NTFS partition?
[01:19] <jrib> g0dd3ss: gtk-gnutella is in the universe repository
[01:19] <soothsayer> Anyone know why bchunk on my .bin and .cue file (VCD) gives two isos?
[01:19] <zun> ah if you're an apache2 buff, I added a virtual directory and no sign of it...
[01:19] <nickrud> g0dd3ss, gtk-gnutella
[01:19] <PriceChild> g0dd3ss, "apt-cache search gnutella" for a list
[01:19] <jrib> StavmaN: what kind of files?  like documents and media?
[01:19] <StavmaN> exactly
[01:19] <ShackJack> StavmaN: Not appreciably, no...
[01:20] <StavmaN> and would i be able to install linux application on NTFS?
[01:20] <StavmaN> or am i going too far on that one
[01:20] <reed026> hmm I guess I need to pull out my server from the closet and mess around with this.
[01:20] <Jay123> Hey I'm back NigelS
[01:20] <Ek0nomik> is anyone familiar with SSHFS?
[01:20] <reed026> I don't have a need for ASP though.. php has always treated me well zun :)(
[01:20] <SochBat> Hello Ubuntites
[01:20] <radioman> hey
[01:21] <Ek0nomik> apparently something went wrong with mounting the remote on the local... because this is the permission of my directory:
[01:21] <Ek0nomik> ?---------  ? ?    ?       ?                ? surreal-fs
[01:21] <jvai> hey ppls
[01:21] <Jay123> Hey im logged into my Ubuntu 7.04 live cd NigelS you there?
[01:21] <zun> fortunate for you :) I have a developer that is very fluent with ASP and we want a thing done as soon as possible, so ASP it is... unfortunately :)
[01:21] <jrib> StavmaN: the last one sounds like a bad idea because linux relies on permissions a lot and ntfs won't keep track of that
[01:21] <zun> and then again I wonder how scalable PHP is...
[01:21] <ShackJack> StavmaN: No you'd want your linux apps to be in root with the rest of the stuff and keep your data separate - heck I only have 8GB set aside for ubuntu and apps and  I have plenty of rooms
[01:21] <zun> we're still choosing the database
[01:21] <vox754> StavmaN, I think yes, you could install applications in NTFS but you may mess up permissions and stuff. Also your programs won't magically work on Windows if that is what you are thinking.
[01:22] <StavmaN> vox, i wasn't thinking that
[01:22] <Cyber_Stalker> im bored lol
[01:22] <StavmaN> thank's for the answers guys, you were very helpful
[01:22] <SochBat> anyone know what makes games now display?
[01:22] <reed026> With a database you have a lot of different choices, really depends on how much RAM you have zun
[01:22] <NigelS> Jay123: hi. ok so if you go to apps->accessories->terminal and type fdisk -l
[01:22] <Jay123> k hang on
[01:23] <SochBat> not*
[01:23] <zun> you have any experience with Oracle XE?
[01:23] <zun> i couldn't find any benchmarks, the admin module is very slow
[01:23] <reed026> Heh no, I use SQLlite mainly
[01:23] <zun> but oracle is oracle... the limitations of XE are ok for starters, not worried about that.
[01:23] <vox754> Jay123, NigelS http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321626 this applies not only for Windows.
[01:23] <Jay123> fdisk -l or fdisk -1
[01:23] <zun> why sqllite?
[01:23] <Mbantua> g'day... has anyone successfully installed freeimage on ubuntu?
[01:24] <Jay123> alright I typed fdisk -1 what info do you need?
[01:24] <reed026> I have an older machine and SQL Lite does everything I need it to for development
[01:24] <NigelS> Jay123: l for list
[01:24] <Cyber_heh> !pastebin | Jay123
[01:24] <ubotu> Jay123: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:25] <StavmaN> what size would you recommend making my ubuntu partition? i'm currently on livecd, and it pretty much convinced me
[01:25] <NigelS> Jay123: it should print out a table of partition info and yes, put it on pastebin
[01:25] <zun> good enough, ahh... the beauty of minimalistic software... works on the hardware you just happen to have lying around :)
[01:25] <Cyber_heh> Jay123: once you have done that command go to pastebing and paste the results
[01:25] <Cyber_heh> pastebin*
[01:25] <Jay123> no fdisk -l doesnt do anythhing
[01:25] <ShackJack> Jay123: that's sudo fdisk -l
[01:25] <Cyber_heh> :)
[01:25] <reed026> Yes. That's why I love Ubuntu. Ubuntu Server + Apache + Sql lite = happy developer
[01:25] <Jay123> Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>2 bytes
[01:25] <Jay123> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
[01:25] <Jay123> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[01:25] <Jay123>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:25] <Jay123> /dev/hda1   *           1        2327    18691596   83  Linux
[01:25] <Jay123> /dev/hda2            2328        2434      859477+   5  Extended
[01:25] <Jay123> /dev/hda5            2328        2434      859446   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[01:25] <reed026> I have a 97 Gateway E3000 that runs that with 128mb of ram
[01:26] <reed026> !flood
[01:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <ShackJack> !pastebin | Jay123
[01:26] <ubotu> Jay123: please see above
[01:26] <zun> hehe
[01:26] <Jay123> i dont know wwhat that means
[01:26] <Cyber_heh> Jay123:  we told you to use pastebin
[01:26] <Jay123> how
[01:26] <Cyber_heh> its so that you dont paste lots of stuff
[01:26] <komodin> !pastebin
[01:26] <NigelS> zun: google's attitude to oracle is interesting; they prefer to be the master of their own destiny :)
[01:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <StavmaN> /q ShackJack
[01:26] <Jay123> !pastebin
[01:26] <Cyber_heh> go to that link...
[01:27] <Cyber_heh> and then u will see what its about :D
[01:27] <reed026> that's why google loves sudo too, right?
[01:27] <reed026> :)
[01:27] <zun> with a budget like that, I'd prefer that too... and looking at the way things might go or the power they wield, google might just become the master of lots of people's destinies :) (search censorship etc)
[01:28] <NigelS> Jay123: in any event back in the terminal type mkdir /tmp/hd && mount /dev/hda1 && cd /tmp/hd
[01:28] <Mbantua> If I need to find freeImage packages, where is a list I could search in?
[01:29] <Jay123> IT says "mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:29] <Jay123> "
[01:29] <NigelS> zun: at lugradio the other week chris dibona made some interesting comments about it; basically buying oracle woulod mean disclosing loads more info than they want, i.e # of CPUs/seats and it costs a fortune; mysql is great
[01:29] <NigelS> Jay123: I missed a bit sorry
[01:30] <ShackJack> Mbantua: aptitude search freeimage ?
[01:30] <Jay123> huh?
[01:30] <NigelS> Jay123:  mount /dev/hda1 /tmp/hd && cd /tmp/hd
[01:30] <zun> Nigel5, ah disclosing that much info, i see that pov.
[01:30] <NigelS> anyone here at guadec atm?
[01:30] <wdklwk> ola
[01:30] <Mbantua> ShackJack: tried that... didn't bring anything... I thought I could look somewhere else :)
[01:31] <Jay123> OK, now it says "mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp/hd': File exists"
[01:31] <marc> hello world :)
[01:31] <NigelS> Jay123: you weren;t meant to repeat that bit
[01:32] <Jay123> oh ok hang on ill type just that bit
[01:32] <ShackJack> !hi | marc
[01:32] <ubotu> marc: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:32] <SochBat> hello Marc
[01:33] <Jay123> bash: /dev/hda1/tmp/hd: Not a directory
[01:33] <Jay123> bash: /dev/hda1/tmp/hd: Not a directory
[01:33] <wdklwk> join ubuntu-br
[01:33] <StavmaN> what size is it recommend making an ubuntu partition?
[01:33] <nikin> is there a make command hitch can use multiple CPU-s?
[01:33] <ctothej> how can i find the mount point of a particular hard drive (that is mounted already) from the command line?
[01:33] <Cyber_heh> StavmaN:  not smaller then around 3 or 4 gig
[01:33] <NigelS> Jay123: did you copy and paste what I wrote or type it out?
[01:33] <Cyber_heh> that just for like the install tho
[01:33] <ShackJack> wdklwk: I think you want /join #ubuntu-br
[01:33] <NigelS> ctothej: type mount
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> will have min space after that :D
[01:34] <Jay123> i typed it out
[01:34] <StavmaN> Cyber_heh: is 20gb too much?
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> nah
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> this machine im on now is 20gb
[01:34] <d2leo> I was trying to restore a system backup I created, and at the end it says qzip: stdin: unexpected end of file.  does this mean my backup was corrupt?
[01:34] <NigelS> Jay123: you typed something wrong; type cd /tmp/hd now
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> and i have no issues currently :D
[01:34] <carl_> I can't seem to run ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> lots of space for upgrade to run :D
[01:34] <ctothej> NigelS: thanks bro. couldnt have been easier than that
[01:34] <marc> give here a swiss support channel :D ?
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> !swiss
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <carl_> it says  command not found
[01:35] <Jay123> "No such file or directory"
[01:35] <ShackJack> StavmaN: I have 10GB and a bunch of stuff and still have 6GB available..
[01:35] <SlimeyPete> I imagine the closest you'll find to swiss is french or german ;)
[01:35] <StavmaN> 10 or 20, that's the question :)
[01:35] <SlimeyPete> !swiss
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <reed026> zun maybe if you asked your question on mono-mod's support mailing list they could help you better than we could. http://www.mono-project.com/Need_Help
[01:35] <marc> rofl :D
[01:36] <marc> my english is in beta ... i can't understand :D
[01:36] <Jay123> NigelS, will you private message me so I can read more clearly..
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> !french
[01:36] <StavmaN> ShackJack: what's your total HD space?
[01:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> !german
[01:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:36] <ShackJack> marc: Join #ubuntu-ch
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> ah, there is one?
[01:36] <Cyber_heh> !nvidia
[01:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:37] <ShackJack> SlimeyPete: Yep, not very full, though...
[01:37] <reed026> I wish they had forums, but I couldn't find anything when searching google. However, you should be sure to give them every thing you can specifically when describing your problems.
[01:37] <marc> wow nice .. thank you shackjack
[01:37] <igorgue> Hi all I'm trying to get my laptop start the live cd of feisty, my computer is a hp dv2550se, the problem is that the live cd don't init... it only show a busybox shell
[01:37] <ingo> hai ! can i open a .svg graphic in gimp via plugin !?
[01:37] <neozen> meep
[01:37] <Stormx2> igorgue: Have you verified the cd image?
[01:37] <ShackJack> StavmaN: Well, I have about 40GB on one 80GB drive dedicated to Ubuntu - 9.6 for root and the rest for /home (and 1.5 GB for swap)
[01:37] <igorgue> yes
[01:37] <reed026> igorgue, did you try to install with the alt cd? Sometimes laptops don't run well with Ubuntu
[01:38] <igorgue> nop
[01:38] <CVirus> Is /etc/udev/udev.rules present in feisty ?
[01:38] <ingo> hai ! can i open a .svg graphic in gimp via plugin !?
[01:39] <neozen> ingo... we heard you
[01:39] <racvets2> ingo, I am not sure Gimp can do svg, but you can get inkscape than can read it from the repos
[01:39] <neozen> please wait for a response
[01:39] <StavmaN> ShackJack: can my /home be an NTFS partition?
[01:39] <Stormx2> StavmaN: Yep, but why?
[01:39] <neozen> StavmaN: ....it could be.... but not necessarily the best way to skin the cat
[01:39] <NemesisD> hi, i have an ubuntu laptop with connectivity to the internet, could i run a cat5 cable from the laptop to another ubuntu machine and get on the internet with that second machine?
[01:39] <ShackJack> StavmaN: Ubuntu will not let you format it that way.... it should really be a regular ext3 and you can "leave" another partition for NTFS...
[01:39] <ingo> racvets2: thank you
[01:40] <ShackJack> StavmaN: /home stores all your configuration stuff and other things and might be a problem if it were a non-linux filesystem...
[01:40] <StavmaN> Stormx2: i want to dual boot, and keep my media files accessible for windows
[01:40] <neozen> StavmaN: ok... have a fat32 partition
[01:40] <Theory> there will almost certainly be problems if /home is on a partition without permission support
[01:41] <Stormx2> neozen: Worst idea ever?
[01:41] <StavmaN> no good, it won't support DVDR's
[01:41] <ShackJack> StavmaN: I do the same thing, all my mp3 are on my windows partition (on another drive) and i access them directly from there... have it bookmarked as "My Music" in Nautilus places for direct access...
[01:41] <Mbantua> can I use a debian package with ubuntu
[01:41] <Stormx2> StavmaN: Windows can read ext3 no problem with a 3rd party driver. Takes 5 minutes to set up, max.
[01:41] <neozen> Stormx2: lol... mine or his?
[01:41] <racvets1> Mbantua, yea you can
[01:41] <racvets1> just double click it
[01:41] <racvets1> Ubuntu was based on Debian
[01:41] <neozen> Stormx2: but can it write to ext3 just as easily?
[01:41] <reed026> Mbantua, Ubuntu has a Debian Base so they would be compatable
[01:42] <Cyber_heh> !flash
[01:42] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:42] <NigelS> ubuntu still is based on debian :)
[01:42] <Mbantua> racvets1: what do mean by doubleclick?
[01:42] <StavmaN> ShackJack: than why do you need a 40GB partition for linux?
[01:42] <NeoGeo64> help.. how do i activate ubuntu
[01:42] <neozen> Stormx2: and what is the name of this driver?
[01:42] <racvets1> if you download the file and find it in the file viewer, then you can double click it
[01:42] <Stormx2> neozen: Yours. FAT is old, unjournalled, awful character set, and a limit on file size.
[01:42] <neozen> NeoGeo64: define activate
[01:42] <Stormx2> neozen: I'll find it. It's called IFS or something.
[01:42] <Zambezi> DNS is edited i /etc/resolv.conf, but how can I add two statics DNS?
[01:43] <neozen> Stormx2: true... but can't beat it for os compatibility
[01:43] <NeoGeo64> send my computer information to a large database to insure that im using genuine ubuntu
[01:43] <ubutom> tvout > ubotu
[01:43] <Mbantua> I tried to find libfreeimage3 with aptitude search but couldn't. How can I install a package from a different source?
[01:43] <dissection> !ubuntu
[01:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <ShackJack> StavmaN: I have the extra space for stuff i download from Linux, movies, etc... It's just I had the Windows partition already and all my MP3s happen to be on it... and heck 40GB in this day and age ain't that much :)
[01:43] <neozen> Stormx2: and can this driver do write access to ext3?
[01:43] <Stormx2> neozen: It can.
[01:43] <neozen> Stormx2: thank you
[01:43] <Stormx2> neozen: And that's a small gain over a huge loss.
[01:43] <neozen> Stormx2: true...
[01:44] <ShackJack> Mbantua: You have to find a repository that offers the package, add it to your sources list and then install... Of get source code of package and build your own...
[01:44] <NeoGeo64> Is Ubuntu supported by Microsoft
[01:44] <Stormx2> NeoGeo64: Take a wild guess.
[01:44] <NeoGeo64> Windows Vista
[01:44] <neozen> NeoGeo64: hell no
[01:44] <Mbantua> ShackJack: I tried to build it first but ended up with error while I use make
[01:44] <jerkface03> lol
[01:44] <CVirus> ROFL
[01:44] <jerkface03> don't feed the troll
[01:44] <NigelS> Mbantua: if you can satisfy the dependencies you can install anything, checkout package.debian.org and packages.ubuntu.org to see if it's in ubuntu in an upstream version
[01:44] <neozen> potential troll?
[01:44] <vox754> neozen, warn the ops!
[01:44] <ShackJack> It's Bill Gates - GET HIM!!!
[01:45] <NigelS> we're about to be assimilated :(
[01:45] <Stormx2> Calm down, he might be genuinely unsure.
[01:45] <Stormx2> We'll soon see, eh?
[01:45] <NeoGeo64> is ubuntu just windows vista with a hacked gui or is it something else
[01:45] <Mbantua> NigelS: I'll do that... thanks
[01:45] <neozen> NeoGeo64: no...
[01:45] <ShackJack> Yep, Troll :)
[01:45] <Stormx2> NeoGeo64: Something else. You can read about it at ubuntu.com!
[01:45] <neozen> NeoGeo64: something completely different
[01:45] <kitche> NeoGeo64: it's an operating system called Linux
[01:45] <Stormx2> NeoGeo64: We won't explain it here, please read up at ubuntu.com
[01:45] <zenmonk> what can you do about the error that says no xclients file is found?  I already added exec gnome-session to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, and tried adding one to home, making sure to chmod +x it
[01:45] <kbrooks> I need ideas for my own sites.
[01:46] <kbrooks> Anyone?
[01:46] <kbrooks> thanks.
[01:46] <kbrooks> er
[01:46] <aldren> i can believe about some questions here :~
[01:46] <ShackJack> NeoGeo64: Here's another good source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29
[01:46] <NeoGeo64> ok. can i run dx10 on ubuntu
[01:46] <kbrooks> I need ideas for my own site. *
[01:46] <StavmaN> thank's for all your help
[01:46] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, no.
[01:46] <kbrooks> !lnw
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lnw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <Stormx2> kbrooks: Your website?
[01:46] <nickrud> kbrooks, a picture
[01:46] <neozen> NeoGeo64: no
[01:46] <Jay123> Hello I need help here's my situation: I installed Ubuntu 7.04 over XP just today now when I try to boot from the hard drive it says "no operating system" so I can only boot from the live cd which I am using right now .... Can anybody walk me through the steps to get Ubuntu booting off my hard drive please?
[01:46] <NeoGeo64> can i run internet explorer on ubuntu
[01:46] <_Roly> I have got an acer aspire 5633 laptop with the intel 3945 wifi chip.  I am running feisty with all packages updated.  The problem is that my wireless network does not appear most of the time when doing a scan (iwconfig eth1 scan), it does sometimes appear.  If I manage to get a connection it just drops after a couple of seconds.  I have got another laptop next to me and this can connect absolutely fine.  Signal strength is about 75%.  Does anyone have any sugges
[01:46] <Stormx2> kbrooks: I thought you were op? #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:46] <kbrooks> nickrud, anything else?
[01:46] <neozen> NeoGeo64: no directx on linux
[01:46] <ShackJack> NeoGeo64: Yes...
[01:46] <nickrud> kbrooks, what's your focus?
[01:46] <Stormx2> NeoGeo64: Yes, but its hacky and best to use firefox (as is true on windows, also)
[01:46] <NeoGeo64> because i dont like fire fox
[01:46] <kbrooks> nickrud, unsure.
[01:47] <neozen> NeoGeo64: no.. no IE ...plenty of other browsers out there
[01:47] <nickrud> kbrooks, lots of pictures :)
[01:47] <vox754> _Roly, to identical laptops? one works the other doesn't?
[01:47] <ShackJack> neozen: Yes, you actually can run IE on Ubuntu :) - Not IE 7 Thought, AFAIK
[01:47] <Jay123> Hello I need help here's my situation: I installed Ubuntu 7.04 over XP just today now when I try to boot from the hard drive it says "no operating system" so I can only boot from the live cd which I am using right now .... Can anybody walk me through the steps to get Ubuntu booting off my hard drive please?
[01:47] <vox754> !repeat > Jay123
[01:47] <Stormx2> ShackJack: You can run the IE7 rendering engine, but not IE7.
[01:47] <NigelS> Jay123: you ignored my msg
[01:47] <nickrud> kbrooks, I'm at aphroneo.net, that's how sure I am :)
[01:48] <neozen> _Roly: is ssid broadcast turned on on your wireless router?
[01:48] <_Roly> vox754: no, the other laptop is a fujitsu running intel 2200 wifi.  I was mentioning it to show that the access point was working correctly
[01:48] <Stormx2> Jay123: Sounds like a bodged grub install.
[01:48] <mike1234> im trying to get samba to work, at the moment both linux to linux machines but when i try and access the shared folder in gnome, i get ""homes" couldn't be found. Perhaps it has recently been deleted." any ideas
[01:48] <Jay123> nigels
[01:48] <NeoGeo64> does windows vista use linux?
[01:48] <_Roly> neozen: yes it is.
[01:48] <Jay123> i typed mount and told u
[01:48] <kyja> how do I get mysql setup?? It is installed but I have to create an administrator password right? how ?
[01:48] <Stormx2> NeoGeo64: For the last time, read ubuntu.com.
[01:48] <vox754> NigelS, still there? How are things with this buddy?
[01:48] <Pelo> NeoGeo64,  I think you are confused as to what linux is
[01:48] <NemesisD> ok ive got something seriously wrong with my window manager or something, all, fresh install of ubuntu, it runs fine but i just start a random app like forefox and within 10 seconds the mouse and kb become unresponsive
[01:48] <kliklik> Does anyone know a good eBook reader for ubuntu, something like yBook (which is unfortunately windows only)?
[01:49] <NemesisD> cant restart x with the keyboard or anything
[01:49] <nickrud> kyja, install mysql-admin; it's a gui front end that will ease that setup
[01:49] <Jay123> nigels I messaged you back
[01:49] <_Roly> kyja: mysqladmin -uroot password <password>    <-- I think that will do it (just going from memory)
[01:49] <neozen> _Roly: hmm.. interesting problem
[01:49] <ShackJack> Jay123: Here's infor on restoring GRUB - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[01:49] <NeoGeo64> linux is something put on windows rite
[01:49] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, Linux is not Windows.
[01:49] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, No
[01:49] <Stormx2> This guy is trolling.
[01:49] <Stormx2> Definately.
[01:49] <Stormx2> Can we get him kicked?
[01:49] <Pelo> NeoGeo64,  no, linux is an alternative to windows,  sort of ,  window is an operatiing system, so is linux
[01:49] <kbrooks> Stormx2, he is askng genuine questions
[01:50] <kyja> ok I will try
[01:50] <Pelo> NeoGeo64,  so is dos, so is osx, so is bds, etc
[01:50] <NeoGeo64> so to use linux, you dont use windows
[01:50] <kbrooks> Stormx2, so no, we cant kicck him
[01:50] <_Roly> neozen: it is is strange, more so in that there is another wireless network in the area (about 30%) and this network always appears in scans
[01:50] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, you can
[01:50] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, with vmware
[01:50] <Stormx2> kbrooks: No, he's not. It's already been explained that a) Ubuntu isn't to do with windows and b) He shouldn't be asking these questions here, he should read up on it.
[01:50] <neozen> NeoGeo64: nope... you don't have to have windows
[01:50] <zenmonk> NeoGeo64: you can dual boot like I am
[01:50] <NeoGeo64> ok well i will download it
[01:51] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, hold on.
[01:51] <Pelo> neo,  you don'T need windows if you use linux,  but you can have both on the same machine,  just not running at the same time, generaly,  you can run both at the same time if you want but you will be doing some special stuff to make that happen
[01:51] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, read the site first
[01:51] <neozen> NeoGeo64: ok ... feel free to come back here if you have any issues
[01:51] <osxdude|lap> Thunder!
[01:51] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, have a look.
[01:51] <aldren> i thing that he is kidding with you guys :~
[01:51] <neozen> NeoGeo64: its what this channel is here for
[01:51] <Bubbles25> I have been having sound problems. I have read through the help stuff on the ubuntu website. I had sound for awhile, but when I was trying to get  sound to come out of my front speaker (my motherboard has built in 7.1 sound) I broke my sound. I don't know how to undo what I did, and I can't find the site again. Now I have no sound at all. I have tried searching for information on ubuntu.com and in google I just can't find anything that will work. Does anyo
[01:51] <NigelS> Jay123: I wouldn't have seen it if you haven't registered on freenode
[01:51] <kyja> super !! thx roly that fixed it. now I can use mysql administrator like the other guy sais.
[01:51] <kyja> said
[01:51] <osxdude|lap> oops sorry wrong channg
[01:51] <Pelo> aldren,  kidding or not , we are the nice channel, we answer questions, and donT' abuse the asker
[01:51] <alex_> none of my system fonts work, like my title bar shows all boxes instead of "Konversation", anyone know the problem?
[01:52] <jamie_> just installed opera web browser now firefox keeps asking my users if they want to import any one know how to stop this please.
[01:52] <_Roly> kyja: no problem
[01:52] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Open up alsamixer in a terminal window - maybe you muted a channel by mistable?
[01:52] <NeoGeo64> i have an old g4 ppc, can it run ubuntu
[01:52] <Stormx2> lol mistable :D
[01:52] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, you are downloading a CD image that you have to burn to a blank CD not as a ISO
[01:52] <aldren> Pelo, what i wrote wrong ?
[01:52] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: no...I have checked that already
[01:52] <SirGrant> neo not 7.04
[01:52] <Stormx2> Bubbles25: If you can't find help here, try ubuntuforums.org
[01:52] <Bubbles25> about 23 times
[01:52] <SirGrant> only older versions
[01:52] <Pelo> aldren,  you said you thought he was kidding
[01:52] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: You've turn *off external amplifier?
[01:52] <SirGrant> 7.04 eliminated PPC support
[01:52] <_Roly> Does anyone have experience with canatonicals commercial ubuntu support in the UK?  Is it worth the price?
[01:52] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, do you understand that?
[01:52] <NeoGeo64> yes
[01:53] <NeoGeo64> apple got all gay and started using intel chips.
[01:53] <kbrooks> SirGrant, no, it eliminated official support for PPC
[01:53] <Bubbles25> also...I accidently got rid of my "taskbar" (not sure what it is called in linux...I don't have the bar with all of my windows open anymore
[01:53] <Bubbles25> I have to alt+tab to get to my programs...how do I get it back?
[01:53] <Stormx2> Bubbles25: Do you have any gnome panels at all?
[01:53] <Stormx2> Bubbles25: If so, right click > add to panel. Task list is under there.
[01:54] <Pelo> Bubbles25,  do you still hve the top one ? right click and add a pannel  then move the new one to the bottom ,  right click on it and add TO pannel
[01:54] <kbrooks> Bubbles25, it has a show desktop icon, a window panel, workspace switcher, and trash can
[01:54] <_Roly> Bubbles25: right click on the other panel and select add panel, then add the window switcher to it
[01:54] <aldren> Pelo. and i wasn't wront about it, he is kidding
[01:54] <aldren> :)
[01:54] <kbrooks> Bubbles25, it has a show desktop icon, a window panel, workspace switcher, and trash can <<<<<
[01:54] <NeoGeo64> Can you use AOL on Linux?
[01:54] <kbrooks> Bubbles25, you can add these
[01:54] <NemesisD> anyone know why in restricted drivers when i check the box to enable this ati accelrated driver it just stays unchecked and not in use?
[01:54] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, yes, but not the program
[01:54] <Pelo> NeoGeo64,  I defended you once,  I'm not doing it again
[01:54] <aldren> wront/wrong/g
[01:54] <neozen> NeoGeo64: its time to take a look at the faq
[01:54] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, IM yes
[01:54] <Bubbles25> kbrooks: yes that is the one
[01:55] <neozen> NeoGeo64: most of the questions you're asking are answered there
[01:55] <NeoGeo64> ok
[01:55] <NeoGeo64> i will read rtfm and stfu
[01:55] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, stfu is bad to say, and we arent telling u to shut up
[01:55] <NeoGeo64> yes u r ;(
[01:55] <Stormx2> !rtfm | NeoGeo64
[01:55] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[01:55] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: I dunno if it's too drastic, but maybe uninstall and reinstall alsa packages to restore your sound... aptitude purge alsa && aptitude install -f alsa
[01:55] <Cyber_heh> !mouse
[01:55] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:55] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, no we arent
[01:56] <NigelS> yeah, for those words go to #debian ;)
[01:56] <NeoGeo64> heh
[01:56] <Pelo> what's  jfgi ?
[01:56] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: thanks I will try that...is that all of the commands I need?
[01:56] <neozen> just forget it perhaps?
[01:56] <Bubbles25> how do I get the panel to appear at the bottom
[01:56] <SirGrant> I've never heard jfgi either
[01:56] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Should be, yep... paste on one line (that's what ampersands are for "and")
[01:57] <trungdung> hi
[01:57] <kbrooks> SirGrant, uh, "just ******* get it"
[01:57] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Right click on top panel and select add panel..
[01:57] <Stormx2> kbrooks: s/get/google.
[01:57] <SirGrant> oh ok I can see why that is bad lol
[01:57] <kbrooks> Stormx2, ah ok
[01:57] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: ah...thanks
[01:57] <alex_> can anyone tell me how to repair my system fonts?
[01:57] <ShackJack> Goin' to watch TV - be back later....
[01:58] <ShackJack> alex_: Repair? How are they broken?
[01:58] <Pelo> alex_,  you want to bet the defaults back ?
[01:58] <kbrooks> SirGrant, its not that bad, but saying google it is silly on your part, and wastes  your time later
[01:58] <alex_> all i get is boxes
[01:58] <italianninja> hello vlc doesnt play divx movies? anyone know why
[01:58] <rainman62> Hello!!
[01:58] <ShackJack> alex_: Go to Prefs Fonts and change the fonts there...(?)
[01:59] <Stormx2> italianninja: Try #videolan
[01:59] <SirGrant> I never said google it
[01:59] <Pelo> alex_,  in order   3 x  sans 10,  sans bold 10, monospace 10, best render
[01:59] <SirGrant> I just said I didn't know what the acronym ment
[01:59] <alex_> i tried that but i can't read anything that i'm changing
[01:59] <kbrooks> SirGrant, um, i wasnt saying u did
[01:59] <SirGrant> oh ok
[01:59] <trungdung> oh
[01:59] <Jay123> I need to do what this page says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub  but every command I type doesn't work can somebody walk me through it?
[01:59] <ShackJack> alex_: But you can see fonts in the drop-down menu, no?
[01:59] <Pelo> Alex-The-ATLien,  if you type it in , it will go to the right one
[01:59] <trungdung> i am trung dung
[01:59] <NemesisD> ok first thing is first then can somebody help me figure out how to share this internet connection i have on this ubuntu machine with another machine via wired lan?
[01:59] <SirGrant> oh
[01:59] <alex_> no
[01:59] <SirGrant> I see wy I was confused
[01:59] <SirGrant> when he used ****** I thought that ment it was a swear word
[02:00] <alex_> the only fonts that show are ones inside programs
[02:00] <kbrooks> SirGrant, it is
[02:00] <trungdung> i am initial using ubuntu
[02:00] <kbrooks> SirGrant, so i crossed it out
[02:00] <SirGrant> o
[02:00] <ShackJack> alex_: Like menubars and stuff?
[02:00] <Pelo> alex_,  waht language is your system set to ?
[02:00] <Jay123> I need to do what this page says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub  but every command I type doesn't work can somebody walk me through it?
[02:00] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: I am getting an error message it couldn't open two files...they are locked it asked if I was root...so I tried running sudo with it...but that still didn't work?
[02:00] <kbrooks> !repeat | Jay123
[02:00] <ubotu> Jay123: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:00] <neozen> italianninja: your divx movie is screwed up / not adhering to standards your build of vlc was made to support
[02:01] <italianninja> Stormx2: no answer there
[02:01] <alex_> english
[02:01] <NigelS> Jay123: I was trying to earlier; but you weren't typing the commands correctly.  What do you mean the commands don't work?
[02:01] <neozen> italianninja: have you tried other divx compressed videos with vlc?
[02:01] <alex_> it happened when i installed trevino's feisty repo and ran upgrade
[02:01] <rainman62> I'm having problems installing ubuntu 7.04 and need help
[02:01] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Oh, yeah sorry -- sudo just do as two separate command sudo aptitude purge alsa  etc...
[02:01] <Pelo> alex_,  can you get to the font dialog box in menu >s ystem > prefs ?
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Jay123: What error do you get when you type those commands
[02:01] <neozen> rainman62: you've come to the right place
[02:01] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: oh ok
[02:01] <Jay123> i guess im not typing them I have no idea what the hell im fucking doing man this is the first time I ever used linux
[02:01] <neozen> rainman62: what's your issue
[02:01] <italianninja> yeah they dont work
[02:01] <italianninja> dont think vlc has the plugin installed
[02:02] <Stormx2> italianninja: Idle for a bit. otherwise open up synaptic, find vlc, and install the recommend/suggested packages.
[02:02] <alex_> if u can tell me how many items down on the list it is
[02:02] <kbrooks> !language | Jay123
[02:02] <ubotu> Jay123: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:02] <ShackJack> alex_: You can open up your system configuraiton editor and change them by hand -- under desktop->gnome->interface->*_font_name
[02:02] <rainman62> I have 7.04 and 6.1 if installing 6.1 I get the graphic installation but with 7.04 it freeze during the first text boot
[02:02] <NigelS> Jay123: right, let's start again.  first off let's type sudo -s in the terminal
[02:02] <Pelo> alex_,  you don'T need to know,   just click anywhere in the list and type  sans
[02:02] <Stormx2> Jay123: Register to services and I'll walk you through it in PMs.
[02:02] <Mbantua> is aptitude search automatically using the locations inside sources.list to find packages?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Jay123: You need to do a few things... watch your language, provide a description other than dosent work and what you did before it stopped working
[02:03] <Pelo> alex_, it will select the font automaticaly from there, then just it  the apply button , the one on the bottom right , do it for each font
[02:03] <kitche>  Mbantua yes if you updated aptitude
[02:03] <Jay123> sans bring up a blank line in terminal
[02:03] <Stormx2> Mbantua: Yeah. Make sure you run sudo apt-get update   after modifying /etc/apt/sources.list tho :D
[02:03] <neozen> rainman62: how's your ram?
[02:03] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: it doesn't look like it is changing anything it says 0 for all of the stuff
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormx2: Thanks
[02:03] <neozen> rainman62: and where does it freeze?
[02:03] <Mbantua> kitche: that's it... didn't do that
[02:03] <Jay123> I  typed  sans in terminal
[02:03] <rainman62> I have about 1.5Gb of ram
[02:03] <Mbantua> Stormx2: dito
[02:03] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Maybe you already uninstalled alsa then? Just need to reinstall?
[02:03] <NigelS> Jay123: after that type mkdir /mnt/hard_disk && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hard_disk
[02:04] <neozen> rainman62: also... appending the name of the person you're speaking to in here will help get your question better noticed and answered speedily...
[02:04] <rainman62> I need to start 7.04 to tell you exactly whree
[02:04] <NemesisD> anyone? directly sharing an internet connection with another computer via lan?
[02:04] <rainman62> it's after it dedect the mouse
[02:04] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: sudo aptitude install -f alsa :)
[02:04] <Stormx2> rainman62: Have you installed it?
[02:04] <Pelo> Jay123,  those instructions weren'T meant for you
[02:04] <Pelo> afk
[02:04] <rainman62> neozen, thanks
[02:04] <Jay123> can i just copy and paste that in terminal?
[02:04] <Cyber_Smoke> what version is feisty
[02:04] <neozen> rainman62: sticking it at the beginning of what you are saying with a colon or comma works just as well
[02:04] <Cyber_Smoke> ?
[02:04] <Cyber_Smoke> 7.07
[02:04] <Stormx2> rainman62: Oh nevermind, I misunderstood.
[02:04] <NigelS> Jay123: if you've done sudo -s yes you can copy and paste
[02:05] <neozen> rainman62: when the room starts moving quickly such little things are priceless
[02:05] <rainman62> stormx2 no not yet.
[02:05] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: I did that too and when I did it still said it didn't install anything. It said 0 packages upgraaded and 0 newly installed
[02:05] <neozen> rainman62: have you verified the burn?
[02:05] <neozen> rainman62: try booting the cd and selecting the test cd option
[02:05] <rainman62> neozen, yes
[02:05] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Umm I dunno - maybe using synaptic manager would be easier for you -- look up alsa...
[02:05] <neozen> rainman62: hmm... interesting
[02:05] <rainman62> noezen, does 7.04 come in graphic install like 6.1?
[02:05] <Music_Shuffle> Yes.
[02:05] <neozen> rainman62: absolutely
[02:06] <calugarar> excuse me i have a n00b question .... how do i update an ubuntu 5.10 ?
[02:06] <Jay123> --ok i typed sudo -s then copy and pasted "mkdir /mnt/hard_disk && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hard_disk" then hit enter and it brought up a new line
[02:06] <rainman62> neozen: hmmm where do I download that. all I got was the text install
[02:06] <neozen> rainman62: all one need do is boot the desktop installation cd... and you should get a graphical install
[02:06] <Pelo> calugarar,  from 5.10 you would be better off , backing up your /home folder and clean installing 7.4
[02:06] <neozen> rainman62: you might have gotten the alternate cd by mistake
[02:06] <neozen> rainman62: is the word alternate in the name of the file you downloaded?
[02:07] <Pelo> alex_,  I block /msg , please talk to me int he channel
[02:07] <Jay123> --NigelS, did you see my previous post?
[02:07] <NigelS> Jay123: ok, now if you could type "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst &" without the quotes and put that on pastebin please
[02:07] <neozen> rainman62: *image
[02:07] <alex_> do u know of a way to change it from command line
[02:07] <calugarar> pelo, and for that i need 2 burn the iso, right ?
[02:07] <rainman62> neozen, hold on let me check
[02:07] <Pelo> alex_,  no I donT' sorry
[02:07] <NigelS> Jay123: sorry scratch that
[02:07] <neozen> rainman62: ok... standing by
[02:07] <SirGrant> calugarar ya you would need to download the 7.04 CD from ubuntu.com
[02:07] <NigelS> Jay123: i mean-
[02:07] <Jay123> to late
[02:07] <Pelo> calugarar,  yes you would need to do that ,but there are other ways to install
[02:08] <calugarar> damn it 10x anyway
[02:08] <Pelo> !install | calugarar
[02:08] <ubotu> calugarar: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:08] <SirGrant> calugarar I agree it would be easier to back up your data and install then update from your old version
[02:08] <NigelS> Jay123: ok, now if you could type "gedit /mnt/hard_disk/boot/grub/menu.lst &" without the quotes and put that on pastebin please
[02:08] <italianninja> videolan support room is rubbish
[02:08] <alex_> is it possible that my system fonts weren't deleted?
[02:08] <italianninja> everyone is asleep in there
[02:08] <Mbantua> one step further... now I get an W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1when trying to update with the new source deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
[02:08] <neozen> italianninja: ::nods:: quite a few rooms on freenode are that way... monitor the room and someone will notice
[02:08] <Pelo> alex_, I'm sorry I thought you just changed the font did you delete them ?
[02:09] <rainman62> neozen, yes it did has alternate in the file name
[02:09] <neozen> rainman62: ok then
[02:09] <italianninja> neozen: trouble is i want help now lol
[02:09] <rainman62> neozen, I'm downloading a new one
[02:10] <neozen> italianninja: such is life
[02:10] <Pelo> later folks
[02:10] <rainman62> neozen, thanks, let me get the new file and will go from there.
[02:10] <rainman62> thanks
[02:10] <neozen> farewell pelo
[02:10] <fujin> anyone familiar with queus? I'm using static members with priorities like 0,1,2, I assumed that if no one from priority 0 picked it up it would start rining priority 1 also
[02:10] <genii> run apt-get with the --allow-unauthenticated switch to ignore gpg
[02:10] <fujin> doh
[02:10] <alex_> not sure, it happened when i ran sudo apt-get upgrade, after changing my repos
[02:10] <neozen> rainman62: you are most welcome
[02:10] <rainman62> neozen, what irc software do you use?
[02:10] <neozen> rainman62: xchat
[02:10] <neozen> rainman62: might be xchat2
[02:11] <rainman62> neozen, is that free, I dld mirc but they want money
[02:11] <neozen> rainman62: absolutely free
[02:11] <rainman62> neozen, linux or windows?
[02:11] <neozen> rainman62: version that comes with feisty is 2.8.0
[02:11] <neozen> rainman62: works on both
[02:11] <iari> Hey all, How do I set my screen res to 1650 * 1080 ?
[02:11] <kitche> neozen: on windows xchat costs money
[02:12] <neozen> kitche: really? ... never knew that
[02:12] <rainman62> neozen, thanks again, will see after the ubuntu is insatalled competely
[02:12] <xhaan> kitche, theres a free one
[02:12] <neozen> rainman62: you are welcome
[02:12] <kitche> neozen: there is some free versions of it if you wish
[02:12] <rainman62> kitche thanks for the warning
[02:12] <kitche> xhaan: yes but not the same xchat :)
[02:13] <neozen> kitche: heh... no worries... I've already drank the kool-aid
[02:13] <iari> Does anyone know how to set wide screen res 1650 * 1080 ?
[02:13] <neozen> kitche: am hooked on linux
[02:13] <Mbantua> while update apt-get I get a E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Is that a memory issue?
[02:13] <neozen> iari: what kind of card do you have?
[02:13] <majnoon> ok just one question :: how do you make it to FORCE disk check on reboot
[02:13] <majnoon> ??
[02:14] <iari> neozen: ATI
[02:14] <majnoon> ok just one question :: how do you make it to FORCE disk check on reboot ?
[02:14] <Mohd> People, i got another problem. I have installed wine, and used it.
[02:14] <Mohd> But i dont see user/.wine file?
[02:14] <jrib> majnoon: sudo touch /forcefsck
[02:14] <neozen> iari: does that resolution appear in the possibility list for resolutions?
[02:14] <bruenig> Mohd, ls ~/.wine
[02:15] <Mohd> Bruenig: that's a terminal command?
[02:15] <bruenig> Mohd, yes
[02:15] <bruenig> Mohd, it will determine if the file is there or not
[02:15] <neozen> guess I'll have to boot my gnome vm..
[02:15] <iari> neozen: No..
[02:15] <majnoon> tyvm jrib
[02:15] <bruenig> Mohd, unless it says file not found, it is there
[02:15] <majnoon> now me try it
[02:15] <neozen> iari: are you sure that resolution is supported by your card?
[02:15] <Mohd> Bruenig , it had found few files.
[02:16] <asim> can some1 help me reset my settings?
[02:16] <bruenig> Mohd, ok so it is there, what do you need with it?
[02:16] <neozen> iari: have you properly installed the drivers for your particular card?
[02:16] <iari> neozen: yes, I use it on Windows
[02:16] <Mohd> bruenig , i need to copy and fast Adobe file to it, in order to make Photoshop works in Linux with wine.
[02:16] <asim> can some1 help me reset my settings?
[02:16] <neozen> iari: ok... did you install the drivers for your particular card (which model btw?)
[02:16] <iari> neozen: Not sure, the system automatically detected it...
[02:16] <Mohd> Bruenig , the problem is, I cant find the .wine file using the explorer?
[02:17] <neozen> asim: reset what settings for which programs?
[02:17] <asim> am having problems with my firefox mozilla
[02:17] <neozen> asim: ah...
[02:17] <bruenig> Mohd, oh you were using the file explorer, I get so used to terminal, you need to do ctrl + h to show hidden files
[02:17] <Mohd> Bruenig , thanks alot, really appreciated.
[02:17] <asim> i cant play any divx videos
[02:18] <iari> neozen: TI Mobility Radeon X600
[02:18] <asim> i tried installing other applications
[02:18] <neozen> iari: ah...
[02:18] <iari> neozen: TI = ATI
[02:18] <asim> but it would only try to access a wrong path for my totem player
[02:18] <neozen> who's got a mobility radeon x600?
[02:19] <neozen> .....drat.... don't all raise your hands at once now....
[02:19] <Bulli> <--x700
[02:19] <yokomo> Q: can I change which wifi network I connect to based on mac address of AP?
[02:19] <asim> can any1 help
[02:19] <asim> ?
[02:19] <bruenig> yokomo, you mean instead of specifying essid, to specify the mac address?
[02:19] <jordan_> Hi guys, I really need help with my ubuntu machine -- hooking it up to my HD TV with component cables
[02:19] <rainman> nozen, just want to say that I dld xchat for windows and it's free
[02:19] <danielbw> genii: I thought amd owned ati
[02:19] <yokomo> yes, the essid's are the same
[02:20] <asim> how to reset my ubuntu settings?
[02:20] <yokomo> they are both linksys
[02:20] <yokomo> but I want to connect to the "legal" one
[02:20] <bruenig> yokomo, iwconfig INTERFACE ap MACADRESS
[02:20] <bruenig> ADDRESS*
[02:20] <neozen> asim: sudo apt-get reinstall firefox at the command line
[02:20] <bruenig> neozen, sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[02:20] <genii> danielbw: Yeah they do now. Oddly no open source drivers yet however
[02:21] <bruenig> !info firefox
[02:21] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9012 kB, installed size 28592 kB
[02:21] <neozen> bruenig: thanks.... used to aptitude
[02:21] <asim> i did
[02:21] <asim> i removed it from the package manager
[02:21] <asim> and then installed it again
[02:21] <asim> its not helping
[02:21] <bruenig> yokomo, oh you need sudo for that command
[02:21] <jordan_> Anyone help with xorg.conf and TV-out?
[02:21] <neozen> asim: did you delete the .mozilla/firefox folder in your root directory?
[02:21] <bruenig> !tvout | jordan_
[02:21] <ubotu> jordan_: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[02:21] <asim> no
[02:21] <yokomo> bruenig, figured
[02:21] <neozen> asim: do that first
[02:21] <asim> where do i find that folder?
[02:21] <danielbw> genii: ATI has bad drivers all around
[02:22] <neozen> asim: get to a terminal
[02:22] <asim> ahan
[02:22] <asim> then
[02:22] <neozen> asim: and type rm -r .mozilla/firefox
[02:22] <iari> neozen: Any ideas ?
[02:22] <neozen> iari: you probably need to install the driver for your card to support resolutions like that
[02:23] <natbet> how do I change screens? (I have screen 0 as my twinview setup, and screen 1 as my tv
[02:23] <asim> wait
[02:23] <asim> lemme uninstall it again
[02:23] <neozen> iari: looking for a good tutorial for you
[02:23] <neozen> asim: ok
[02:23] <jrib> asim: note you lose all your bookmarks too
[02:23] <iari> neozen: Thanks! :)
[02:23] <NigelS> asim: installing/reinstalling the package will leave intact your config files
[02:24] <NigelS> asim: you have to purge the package to remove configs
[02:24] <jrib> natbet: hmm, I think i just drag my mouse to the edge of the screen and keep going.  Does that work for you?
[02:24] <kevinl--> Question: Is it possible to configuire nsswitch.conf so that only a certain application can authenticate to it via libpam-mysql?
[02:24] <kbrooks> um
[02:24] <natbet> jrib: no, it doesn't show up on my tv
[02:24] <natbet> jrib: the desktop doesn't even show up, it's like it isn't sending out a signal
[02:25] <jrib> natbet: ah, that's different.  Are you using nvidia?  Did you ever have it working?
[02:25] <asim> how do i purge it?
[02:25] <jrib> asim: sudo aptitude purge PACKAGE
[02:25] <jrib> !apt > asim (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:26] <natbet> jrib: yup, it's an nvidia card with the driver from the ubuntu repository
[02:26] <bruenig> purging firefox is pointless
[02:26] <asim> then?
[02:26] <asim> wat to do
[02:26] <NigelS> asim: but in any event the instruction that neozen gave you would get rid of the config too
[02:26] <jrib> natbet: how did you set it up?  Did you edit xorg.conf by hand or use nvidia-settings?
[02:26] <asim> mmmm
[02:26] <bruenig> purging firefox doesn't get rid of the configuration
[02:27] <neutrale> salve a tutti
[02:27] <jrib> !it | neutrale
[02:27] <ubotu> neutrale: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:27] <natbet> jrib: I tried using nvidia-settings, I haven't tried it by hand yet
[02:27] <cje> hi,
[02:27] <jrib> natbet: k, did you run nvidia-settings with sudo so that it could write the changes to xorg.conf?
[02:27] <kbrooks> bruenig, you mean user settings, in that case you are correct
[02:28] <natbet> jrib: yup
[02:28] <cje> oops, is there a script command to find out what version of ubuntu is installed on my machine?  Thanks
[02:28] <jrib> natbet: k, and restarted X?
[02:28] <jrib> !version > cje (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:28] <bruenig> kbrooks, that is all the configuration that firefox has, firefox is nothing more than an extracted directory with a symlink put in /usr/bin
[02:28] <natbet> jrib: the changes are in the xorg.conf, but when I run nvidia-settings again, the tv always shows up as disabled
[02:28] <bruenig> it probably ought to be in /opt
[02:28] <asim> give me a command to install mozilla
[02:29] <natbet> jrib: yup, I've restarted X
[02:29] <Tophe1> Hey, can anyone suggest what factors might be making Ubuntu run slowly on my Inspiron laptop? 512MB RAM, 2 GHz proc - but lesser laptops run Beryl etc. better and I don't know why. Hard disk space? Video card?
[02:29] <neozen> asim: sure you don't mean firefox?
[02:29] <cje> jrib: thanks!
[02:29] <bruenig> Tophe1, video card is the most important aspect of running beryl, hard disk shouldn't factor in at all
[02:29] <AzMoo[w] > Hey, how can I find out what version of kerberos I'm using?
[02:29] <neozen> !iceweasel
[02:29] <ubotu> Iceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel
[02:29] <bruenig> !info kerberos
[02:29] <ubotu> Package kerberos does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:30] <bruenig> AzMoo, what is that
[02:30] <jrib> natbet: hmm, try pastebinning your xorg.conf and explaining the problem again to the channel.  I'll take a look, but I don't know much about it.  nvidia-settings "just works" for me
[02:30] <Tophe1> OK. If I install extra progs, will that affect performance or not so much?
[02:30] <asim> i mean firefox only
[02:30] <asim> sorry
[02:30] <iari> neozen: I think a good tutorial.. thanks. I'll let you know if it solved the problam
[02:30] <AzMoo[w] > bruenig: it's an authentication protocol.
[02:30] <AzMoo[w] > !krb-user
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krb-user - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <natbet> ok
[02:30] <bruenig> !info krb-user
[02:30] <AzMoo[w] > !info krb-user
[02:30] <ubotu> Package krb-user does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:30] <neozen> iari: ok... sorry ... lots on my plate right now
[02:30] <AzMoo[w] > :\
[02:30] <bruenig> AzMoo, figure out what its name is first
[02:30] <jrib> asim: sudo aptitude install firefox    please take a look at the page ubotu sent you in a private message
[02:30] <sldkfj> Tophe1, 'affect' in what aspect?
[02:31] <AzMoo[w] > !info krb5-user
[02:31] <ubotu> krb5-user: Basic programs to authenticate using MIT Kerberos. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-5ubuntu3.1 (feisty), package size 121 kB, installed size 312 kB
[02:31] <sldkfj> Tophe1, best place for help with Beryl is #Beryl
[02:31] <bruenig> Tophe1, that is a poor question, installing applications does not inherently have any effect as an application is just files on your hard drive, running different apps obviously use resources and so depending on the application if you are running it, it will slow down the system, see azureus
[02:31] <Tophe1> "Affect" like, Beryl runs slowly and jerkily with effects that run smoother and higher FPS on, for example a Dell Latitude (newer) with half the RAM and half the processor.
[02:32] <Tophe1> I suspect it's my video card :-( that's pretty un-fixable right?
[02:32] <bruenig> Tophe1, the biggest aspect is video card
[02:32] <bruenig> Tophe1, in fact beryl hardly touches my ram or cpu
[02:32] <natbet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30393/ here's the pastebin of my xorg.conf
[02:32] <KingPython> is anybody know a program convert a directoy(include .html files) to chm format?
[02:32] <daniberg> hi guys, I'm using ubuntu feisty and having some hard time to connect via wirelles. well, the problem now is only with the connection. can someone point me a direction?
[02:32] <Tophe1> hmm... does anyone know if there is anything I can do to "upgrade" or "tweak" my video card then?
[02:33] <bruenig> KingPython, chm is proprietary isn't it?
[02:33] <sldkfj> Tophe1, what manufacture made your card?
[02:33] <neozen> daniberg: well... what kind of card do you have?
[02:33] <Tophe1> I never thought about it in Windows. The thing is, not only Beryl runs slowly. It's other progs too.
[02:33] <unagi> anyone running avant window navigator
[02:33] <simpleH> I need some help, my nvidia software isn't saving the configuration properly to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:33] <Tophe1> It's an Intel chipset 82845G video card from a pretty old model.
[02:33] <bruenig> unagi, you must really love that dock, you have been hacking away at it for at least a week
[02:33] <daniberg> well, I did configure it with ndiswrapper
[02:33] <unagi> bruenig: no i havent
[02:33] <daniberg> 802.11b/g
[02:34] <neozen> Tophe1: hmm.... yeah.. might not have the horsepower necessary for beryl
[02:34] <daniberg> I can see the account listed
[02:34] <unagi> you can disagree all you want to but i havent messed with awn for over 2 weeks
[02:34] <KingPython> bruenig: proprietary?
[02:34] <sldkfj> Tophe1, best place for help with Beryl is #Beryl  .......... they will also help with video cards ........ but if I were you, I'd visit #compiz-fusion it's a better program
[02:34] <kbrooks> does the text "http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/images/code.php" show 7995 for you?
[02:34] <Tophe1> It's just that other people have talked about how fast Ubuntu in general (and specifics like Beryl) runs with similar models and I'm trying to figure out if I am fated to slowness, or if I have done some configuration wrong.
[02:34] <kbrooks> er
[02:34] <sldkfj> and eyecandy just like Beryl
[02:34] <danielbw> chm = compiled help markup?
[02:34] <bruenig> KingPython, chm is a microsoft format I thought
[02:34] <neozen> daniberg: ...that's not a manufacturer... that's the protocol...
[02:34] <daniberg> but I can see from windows that the conection is wap-psk
[02:34] <kbrooks> does the image "http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/images/code.php" show 7995 for you?
[02:35] <KingPython> bruenig: yes but its so common
[02:35] <Tophe1> Really - Compiz is better than Beryl? Which is less demanding on resources, do you think?
[02:35] <bruenig> KingPython, but it is compiled I mean, I am not saying something exists or not but the format would have to have been reversed engineered
[02:35] <kbrooks> Tophe1, compiz-fusion = compiz + beryl
[02:35] <daniberg> well, I have an acer aspire 3100
[02:35] <KingPython> bruenig: but if you know a format like chm on linux you can advice to me
[02:35] <sldkfj> Tophe1, there is a guy that has eyecandy running on cards with 32megs of ram
[02:35] <wesolek> hello everybody :) I've got a tiny problem, does anybody know where on my ubuntu I can find bittorrent? It says it's installed but I can't find it anywhere :(
[02:35] <sldkfj> Tophe1, compiz-fusion
[02:35] <iari> neozen:  sudo aticonfig -initial                Warning: Could not find configuration file                   Please copy configuration file template to /etc/X11      ??
[02:36] <neozen> daniberg: well.. that's the laptop model... but I'll see what card came in it by default
[02:36] <NigelS> there's a CHM reader in linux so someone clearly understands the format
[02:36] <Tophe1> !? So I guess cards *are* important then.
[02:36] <unagi> anyone use AWN?
[02:36] <neozen> iari: oucheee
[02:36] <KingPython> bruenig: a lot of program on linux read it but now create a new one
[02:36] <bruenig> doc was reverse engineered so it is certainly possible, but even the doc reverse engineer is not completely the same and chm is not as important as that
[02:36] <iari> neozen: What conf file /
[02:36] <ruben> hi all. i was wondering, what kind of widget utils can i use in fluxbox?
[02:36] <Tophe1> Is Compiz-Fusion MORE demanding on resources or LESS demanding on resources than Beryl? Or about the same?
[02:36] <neozen> iari: I honestly can't help you much w/ the ati driver.... never configured an ati card actually
[02:36] <bruenig> Tophe1, #ubuntu-effects
[02:36] <asim> guyz
[02:36] <jrib> natbet: well one thing that looks strange is that the videocard is listed twice, but I'm not sure if it is actually not supposed to look like that.  Why don't you try enabling the screen but not using twinview?  There is some option that just works without requiring you to restart X
[02:36] <neozen> iari: using an intel 950 here
[02:37] <Tophe1> OK, thanks
[02:37] <bruenig> Tophe1, you need a decent graphics card with 3d, that is the only real issue
[02:37] <asim> i cant see the media configuration option in my firefox
[02:37] <asim> how to get that?
[02:37] <daniberg> neozen, ok... In fact the problem is with the connection
[02:37] <sldkfj> Tophe1, compiz fusion is in a place that it's trying to not have the card matter.
[02:37] <neozen> iari: I'm sure someone here can help you out with that
[02:37] <iari> neozen: :) 10x anyway..
[02:37] <daniberg> since the wireless card seems to be fine after ndiswrapper
[02:37] <natbet> jrib: ok, I'll try that
[02:37] <sldkfj> Tophe1, compiz fusion is the current project, and uses less resources
[02:38] <AzMoo[w] > So there's been a couple of vulnerabilities found in kerberos and it needs to be updated. What's the process for that with Ubuntu packages?
[02:39] <bruenig> AzMoo, if it is in the repos, it will show up in update manager, if not then it hasn't been updated, you can get the new version from source and compile if you like
[02:39] <NigelS> AzMoo[w] : the security team will patch and push it out through the security repo
[02:39] <wesolek> can anybody tell me where to find bittorrent on my ubuntu? I'm lost if there is no icon :(
[02:39] <bruenig> wesolek, it is only launched when opening a .torrent file
[02:40] <AzMoo[w] > NigelS: do they need to be notified or is it something they'll pick up?
[02:40] <bruenig> wesolek, the default one that is, there are other clients out there
[02:40] <neozen> AzMoo[w] : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:40] <asim> i cant see the media configuration option in my firefox
[02:40] <simpleH> when installing nvidia-glx through synaptic package manager, should I use nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx
[02:40] <asim> how to get that?
[02:40] <asim> can someone help?
[02:40] <neozen> AzMoo: run that in a terminal
[02:40] <bruenig> !repeat | asim
[02:40] <ubotu> asim: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:40] <wesolek> bruening :) thanks, I installed bittornado (or something like this) and also can't find it... I can't even find 3dchess that I additionally installed :(
[02:41] <AzMoo[w] > neozen: yes, I know, there isn't an update yet. I was looking for information about the process of update creation rather than actually updating. Thanks though.
[02:41] <wesolek> bruenig
[02:41] <andrew_> I can't load music onto my iPod from any application, but I can take it off and play off of it, an ideas?
[02:41] <wesolek> sorry
[02:41] <bruenig> wesolek, well you can alwayd dpkg -L packagename
[02:41] <LouisvilleLIP> Need help with laptop wireless, can see network but can't connect
[02:41] <neozen> AzMoo: ahh... you want to make a new package
[02:41] <bruenig> to see where it puts stuff
[02:41] <sldkfj> asim ???  Edit - Preferences - Content - Filetypes  ???
[02:41] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, is it unencrypted?
[02:42] <neozen> AzMoo: I'm sure such an effort is already underway... I'm sure they're happy to have help
[02:42] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: yes, for now
[02:42] <NigelS> AzMoo[w] : if you know about it , they certainly will, how fast they are in incorporating the patch I can't say
[02:42] <wesolek> thanks, bruenig... is there a way of creating an icon in my "menu start"?
[02:42] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, ok well try doing "sudo iwconfig INTERFACE essid THESSID" then doing "sudo dhclient"
[02:42] <sldkfj> asim, outside of that I'm not sure what is meant by 'media configuration'
[02:42] <bruenig> wesolek, yes you can create a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications, look at the others in that directory to get an understanding of what that looks like
[02:42] <andrew_> I can't load music onto my iPod from any application, but I can take it off and play off of it, anyone have an idea?
[02:43] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, sudo dhclient INTERFACE*
[02:43] <asim> there used to be an option in my firefox
[02:43] <LouisvilleLIP> my router sees my laptop too, but I get nothing when I start firefox
[02:43] <neozen> !ipod
[02:43] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[02:43] <asim> where i could select different programs to run different types of media
[02:43] <crysalys> got a feisty problem, anyone running Feisty on VMware 6?
[02:43] <neozen> andrew_: look into rockbox
[02:43] <bruenig> asim, nobody has any idea what you are talking about when you say media configuration, content was what I was guessing but you seem to say something else
[02:43] <asim> in the 'Tools' menu
[02:43] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: no such device
[02:43] <bruenig> content>filetype
[02:43] <wesolek> thanks bruenig, it was very nice of you :)
[02:44] <andrew_> alright thanks
[02:44] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, what is the name of your INTERFACE
[02:44] <neozen> andrew_: I think rockbox will make your ipod be just a hard drive able to play files you just load onto it when its in drive mode
[02:44] <maxagaz> From Feisty, how can I delete a drawer that is on the HFS+ partition of my MacBook ?
[02:44] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: sorry, not sure how to answer that.  How do I find out?
[02:44] <neozen> have I got that right rockbox users?
[02:44] <asim> i want to open divx files thru my player when i open a divx video in firefox
[02:44] <asim> can u help me do that?
[02:44] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, run iwconfig with no arguments, it will be the one with stuff after it
[02:44] <andrew_> will they appear under music?
[02:45] <crysalys> anyone running Feisty on VMWare
[02:45] <puff> neozen: Has the ipod encrypted firmware been cracked yet?
[02:45] <Stormx2> crysalys: Why?
[02:45] <sldkfj> asim, it may have been removed by an updated version, or perhaps it was an add-on you would pick up at the mozilla site.
[02:45] <neozen> puff: O.o.... didn't know it needed that
[02:45] <neozen> puff: is that within the realm of a newbie to do?
[02:45] <crysalys> Stormx2: got a problem with feisty in vmware...
[02:45] <simpleH> should I use "nv" or "nvidia" when using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:45] <thebigham> how do i install fonts
[02:46] <Stormx2> crysalys: Yeah? What problem?
[02:46] <wimpies> anybody know if there is a special channel for openoffice ?
[02:46] <sldkfj> asim, I'm not sure about divx
[02:46] <thebigham> .ttf
[02:46] <bruenig> simpleH, if you have the nvidia driver installed, go with the second one
[02:46] <Cairna> Hello, I want to completely format my hard drive anew. How do I go about doing that in ubuntu?
[02:46] <neozen> asim: couple plugin possibilities for that
[02:46] <sldkfj> simpleH, depends on the version of you driver
[02:46] <Stormx2> Cairna: No partitions?
[02:46] <andrew_> Is ipod linux worth using?
[02:46] <bruenig> asim, you are probably talking about a plugin
[02:46] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: the most relevant lines say "No DHCPOFFERS received."
[02:46] <neozen> asim: right now I'm using mozilla-mplayer
[02:46] <bruenig> asim, or um add-on
[02:46] <asim> itwasnt an addon
[02:46] <crysalys> stormx2: when ever i put in a cd to rip it, it crashes Fiesty and I have to reboot my whole computer and then restart VMware and then restare Feisty.  Any ideas?
[02:46] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: and "No working leases in persistent databse - sleeping.
[02:46] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, do iwconfig, tell me what the name of the interface is, it will be on the left
[02:46] <civiltechie> Anyone have a recommendation for a solid performing 8+ channel PCI-X hardware RAID card under Ubuntu?
[02:47] <Cairna> Stormx2: My NTFS partition is screwed up. Installing ubuntu after a format is no problem. So yeah, looking for a complete restart
[02:47] <Stormx2> crysalys: None. Its a vmware-specific bug, tho.
[02:47] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: wlan0
[02:47] <neozen> asim: there's also one that uses totem to play videos embedded in pages.... can't really provide an opinion on that
[02:47] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, ok so did you use that earlier in place of INTERFACE in iwconfig INTERFACE essid THESSID
[02:47] <simpleH> bruenig, should I use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[02:47] <T1m3L0rd> anyone good with NAT
[02:47] <Stormx2> Cairna: Well, both ubuntu and windows have the option to erase the entire disk during the install.
[02:47] <crysalys> stormx2: i wondered if that was the case.  My base system is vista, i wondered if that might be the problem too
[02:47] <neozen> Cairna: just boot up an ubuntu installation cd and tell it to wipe the disk
[02:47] <bruenig> simpleH, just go with the defaults if you aren't sure
[02:47] <asim> is mplayer better than totem?
[02:48] <simpleH> ok
[02:48] <neozen> asim: matter of opinion
[02:48] <Stormx2> crysalys: Hmm. I'm sure VMWare has a list of known issues somewhere.
[02:48] <andrew_> bruenig, the Ubuntu community owes you a drink.
[02:48] <asim> hmm
[02:48] <neozen> asim: I happen to think so...
[02:48] <Cairna> Will that have the same effect as a format? I need it... well, completely new.
[02:48] <asim> but how to find that configuration thing?
[02:48] <Cairna> Any terminal command I can use?
[02:48] <neozen> asim: but I'm sure there are others here who could give you reasons why totem is better
[02:48] <sldkfj> asim, have you tried the mplayer site?
[02:48] <neozen> asim: saw something a few minutes ago.....
[02:48] <bruenig> mplayer is better as a plugin because it has better format support
[02:48] <Stormx2> Cairna: Well, you could probably erase everything with fdisk, but you might as well kill 2 birds with 1 stone and do it at install-time.
[02:49] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: I did sudo dhclient wlan0
[02:49] <civiltechie> Anyone have a recommendation for a solid performing 8+ channel PCI-X hardware RAID card under Ubuntu?
[02:49] <crysalys> Stormx2: im sure they do.  I will have to try to find it someware.  How hard is it to dual boot vista and feisty, straight off the hard drive?
[02:49] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, right but if you didn't do the iwconfig command right, then your card won't be requesting an ip address from the right access point
[02:49] <Cairna> Well, I plan to use my HP recovery disc with windows vista ( :/ ) right after the format
[02:49] <neozen> civiltechie: that's a nicely worded and very specific question
[02:49] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, put your full iwconfig command that you used
[02:49] <sldkfj> asim, google:  mplayer divx
[02:49] <bruenig> paste*
[02:49] <Cairna> I have 6.06 LTS, and when it partitions NTFS, it ah... fucks up windows vista, sadly ( sorta )
[02:49] <Stormx2> crysalys: Super-easy. Ubuntu automatically recognises windows on install, and sets up grub appropriately.
[02:49] <neozen> civiltechie: hopefully someone here will have an answer for you soon
[02:50] <bruenig> Cairna, that
[02:50] <bruenig> Cairna, that's a feature
[02:50] <Stormx2> !ohmy | Cairna
[02:50] <ubotu> Cairna: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:50] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: I have only run it with no args
[02:50] <puff> I'm on ubuntu feisty, I just upgraded flash to 9.0 r48, and this appears to not be playing:  http://www.metacafe.com/watch/545672/unlock_plastic_handcuffs_police_style/
[02:50] <Cairna> Apologies.
[02:50] <kevb_uk> can someone tell me how to remove a known key from ssh, if i look in ~/.ssh/known_hosts it makes no sense to me, it doesn't seem to have IP addresses or hostnames which I assumed it would
[02:50] <puff> Anyone selse able to make it play?
[02:50] <lashmoove> I get a different grub splash on bootup t then on shutdown. I would like them to be the same, when I use  'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so' it shows a * by my prefered selection(which shows on shutdown), but a + by the selection that's being used on startup
[02:50] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, ok what is the ssid of the access point
[02:50] <crysalys> Stormx2: do i install vista first or Feisty?
[02:50] <Stormx2> crysalys: Vista first.
[02:50] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: BrokenNetwork
[02:50] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: ironic, I know
[02:50] <Cairna> bruenig, awfull advanced feature seeing as 6.06 is before vista's time
[02:51] <chowmeined> kevb_uk: they were hashed
[02:51] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, do sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid BrokenNetwork, then do the dhclient again
[02:51] <bruenig> Cairna, beta was out
[02:51] <puff> neozen: Sorry, saw you getting the ipod info from uboto and thought you might be up on the topic.
[02:51] <Stormx2> crysalys: It's a bit of a hassle installing windows after ubuntu, because windows doesn't beleive that other operating systems exist and proceeds to overwrite ubuntu's boot loader (grub)
[02:51] <MajorPayne> kevb_uk: You can just do a rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts and that will fix your problem.  But doing that every time is a bit less secure since it removes all keys.
[02:51] <chowmeined> kevb_uk: to prevent exploits from getting a bunch of hostname/fingerprints if they scanned your file
[02:51] <crysalys> Stormx2: Can I boot them off of the same hard drive?
[02:51] <Stormx2> crysalys: You can.
[02:51] <Cairna> Oooh, I should get the beta.
[02:51] <lobo_nz> Im having trouble the nvidia kernel, I can startx fine untill I reboot, then a modprobe -r nvidia followed by modprobe -i nvidia is needed to startx again, the error says all the modules match but "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!" any ideas why I can manually unload/load the module and things work ok but it  loads and wont initialize after reboot would be greatly appreciated
[02:51] <Stormx2> crysalys: You'll need seperate partitions tho.
[02:51] <chowmeined> kevb_uk: if you try to go to a host and it says the key doesn't match, it gives you the line number so you know which one to delete
[02:51] <sldkfj> puff, yeah I got it to play
[02:52] <Cairna> Well, I'm off to try what you suggested stormx2, sorry for my un-family friendlyness
[02:52] <jrib> kevb_uk: you can turn it off with  HashKnownHosts no  in your ssh config if you want
[02:52] <Stormx2> crysalys: I assume you mean hard disk drive, yeah? A windows "drive" (such as C:) is actually a partition.
[02:52] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: you are a Golden God
[02:52] <Stormx2> Cairna: S'okay ;-) Good luck!