[00:00] <OerHeks> i have no idea about android device troubles
[00:00] <Sujit> yes its ubuntu base
[00:00] <guiverc> what release of Ubuntu?\
[00:01] <guiverc> and why note ubuntu-mate-desktop ?
[00:01] <Sujit> im just trying to reinstall right now....i have to check the version.... one sec
[00:01] <guiverc> s/note/not - sorry typo
[00:03] <Sujit> its a dierect download from the userLAnd android app...it does state....i cant query it as its currently installing mate...
[00:03] <guiverc> which implies to me it's not a Ubuntu base; it's an android add-on.
[00:07] <guiverc> Sujit, i looked up userland, it's not running Ubuntu -it's for running linux software without running a full distribution, thus off-topic in my opinion in this room (you're trying to run MATE on a non-Ubuntu)
[00:08] <Sujit> you have to choose a distro and i picked ubuntu...
[00:08] <Sujit> is there a command line way to check the ubuntu version?
[00:09] <tomreyn> Sujit: lsb_release -ds
[00:11] <tomreyn> or -rs is you really just want the main version string
[00:12] <Sujit> ok its going to take a few moniutes for reinstallation of mate - and then i'll tell you the output...
[00:12] <Sujit> mate is wroking just I cant install anything new....
[00:12] <Sujit> i think the problem is with the account rights and how the x server is set up
[00:13] <tomreyn> but yes, we only support official ubuntu here
[00:14] <Sujit> ok....il wait to see the os version..
[00:21] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> any idea why my ethernet connection drops after heavy use for ~30mins/1hour? I just detach/reattach the cable and it's all fine after that, I'd love being able to avoid it though (I'm transferring 3tb over ethernet)
[00:22] <OerHeks> maybe a bad cable?
[00:22] <guiverc> Fire-Dragon-DoL, no idea, but I'd check the switch-logs plugged in the other end for clues, it may be dropping the connection because of rules (spam/use to reduce it's workload/temperature etc), ie. it's not your pc's (or Ubuntu's) fault
[00:25] <Sujit> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[00:25] <Sujit> @tomreyn
[00:32] <Sujit> so im on offical ubuntu according to the commandline
[00:33] <OerHeks> i just instaalled userland, and see presets, debian, ubuntu, but no mate
[00:33] <Sujit> i get a page-full or errors when i run "mate-session" from the username: sujit...uit wont even find the directory with root
[00:34] <Voob_Sant> hey sup
[00:35] <OerHeks> "vnc must be 6-8 char.. crap"
[00:35] <OerHeks> so no, i think you are bound to ubuntu
[00:35] <Sujit> OerHeks...you install ubuntu....then drop into the vnc session.....and install mate dektop
[00:36] <Sujit> it runs...just not proper rights...
[00:36] <Sujit> open office.... caja.... firefox all work..
[00:37] <Sujit> im just trying to install synaptic as root...
[00:37] <OerHeks> there is no root, forget it
[00:37] <Sujit> no you can su root
[00:37] <Sujit> and administer all accounts from there
[00:38] <Sujit> you can adduser and the moduser
[00:38] <Sujit> and ad to sudo group...
[00:39] <OerHeks> no, this is not supported here, no root, just a glimpse of ubuntu
[00:39] <OerHeks> good luck !
[00:40] <Sujit> OerHeks...it has root...
[00:40] <Sujit> just type su root
[00:40] <Sujit> into the terminal
[00:43] <Sujit> OerHeks... why do you say there'sn no root?
[00:45] <OerHeks> i think you need to seek support on their github page
[00:46] <OerHeks> just uninstalled it, not really interesting to find out
[00:47] <Sujit> OK my problem: how do I run mate-session as admin....or as sudo?
[00:48] <Sujit> or is thart not possible?
[00:48] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> guiverc: I can check, but again, it's this laptop slowing down
[00:48] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> I'll try with wifi only
[00:52] <Sujit> sudo mate-session.....given error client is not authorised to connect to server
[00:53] <Sujit> but mate-session works fine....
[00:55] <texla> Looking for a command to use to make a name change in /grub.cfg
[00:55] <Sujit> is there a list of authorised clients for mate-session and how do i adjust it?
[01:18] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> with wifi, no problems at all, so it seems to be specific to ethernet
[01:18] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> that's annoying
[01:43] <Tin_man> Fire-Dragon-DoL, how many devices hooked to the ethernet?
[01:43] <guiverc> Fire-Dragon-DoL, wifi is likely far slower (even N is slower than gigabit) & some cheap switches do cheap tricks like that  instead of overheating & thus causing warranty-claims...it was just a thought; switching out the switch would prove/disprove it
[01:43] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> Tin_man: what do you mean? On my router, 4 and 4 to a switch
[01:43] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> some cables are unplugged on the other side though
[01:44] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> so maybe 6
[01:44] <Tin_man> I'm thinking NIC.. could be wrong. to you machine..
[01:44] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> but the laptop is directly connected to the router
[01:44] <Tin_man> your*
[01:46] <Tin_man> if none of the other machines ane having any trouble with the router, I'd suspect you laptop NIC.
[01:46] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> also, I know wifi is slower but I have to transfer 3tb, over 5ghz I get 15MB/sec on ethernet I was getting 26MB/sec (the HDD beiong the bottleneck probably), but it was "crashing" after 30 minutes
[01:46] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> I prefer consistency in this case, lol
[01:47] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> none of my other machine have ubuntu though, so hard to test
[01:48] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> I'll try running with a usb stick and a live distro and see if the problem is still there
[01:48] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> I probably can try with a different cable too
[01:52] <Tin_man> well, Fire-Dragon-DoL good luck with your problem..
[01:52] <mapleroot> wew
[01:53] <detly> software recommendation request - I'm after a super simple picture editor (think, drawing arrows and text and boxes on photos). Currently I need to go through Gimp and Inkscape in a very convoluted way to do this. Is there something a bit simpler? Like Pinta, but currently working?
[01:56] <thecolorjay> Hey, I'm having an issue with apt-transport-tor on Ubuntu and on Debian. I can't get it to work and I keep getting the same output in my terminal.
[01:56] <thecolorjay> "Err:1 tor+http://sdscoq7snqtznauu.onion/torproject.org bionic InRelease
[01:56] <thecolorjay>   Waiting for the SOCKS proxy socks5h://localhost:9050 to first part of response timed out [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 9050]
[01:56] <thecolorjay> Err:2 tor+http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease
[01:56] <thecolorjay>   Waiting for the SOCKS proxy socks5h://localhost:9050 to first part of response timed out [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 9050]
[01:56] <thecolorjay> Err:3 tor+http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease
[01:56] <thecolorjay>   Waiting for the SOCKS proxy socks5h://localhost:9050 to first part of response timed out [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 9050]
[01:58] <zeropoint> Are you trying to pull apt repos over tor?
[01:59] <leftyfb> !paste | thecolorjay
[02:00] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: I would troubleshoot whether or not you have a tor proxy running on localhost on port 9050
[02:00] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: sudo lsof -i :9050 # would be a good start
[02:01] <thecolorjay> I have, it's running for sure leftyfb
[02:01] <thecolorjay> And sorry, I'll use Pastebin next time.
[02:01] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: not according to your error message
[02:02] <thecolorjay> Yeah well I've checked the status with systemctl and it's running.
[02:02] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: sudo lsof -i :9050
[02:03] <thecolorjay> tor     3921 debian-tor    6u  IPv4  31282      0t0  TCP localhost:9050 (LISTEN)
[02:03] <thecolorjay> See
[02:04] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: can you pastebin the output of: sudo lsb_release -a
[02:05] <thecolorjay> https://pastebin.com/gUnt8CK3
[02:05] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: can you pastebin the output of: sudo lsb_release -a
[02:06] <thecolorjay> Oh, my bad, read that wrong
[02:06] <thecolorjay> https://pastebin.com/gUnt8CK3
[02:06] <thecolorjay> I edited it
[02:07] <leftyfb> you edited it?
[02:07] <thecolorjay> I should mention that I am running this in VirtualBox because I'm trying to get it working before I install it to hardware.
[02:07] <leftyfb> ok? which part did you edit?
[02:07] <thecolorjay> Yeah, I changed that paste instead of making a new one.
[02:07] <leftyfb> oh
[02:07] <thecolorjay> Just check that paste again
[02:07] <malice_> It looks syntactically and semantically correct to me, but the zone file does not respect the gmtoffset (I get GMT0 instead of GMT-8)
[02:08] <malice_> oops
[02:08] <malice_> meant to start with...
[02:08] <malice_> Hey! I need some help with zic - I am trying to get a minimal sample to work, but it doesn't. I've created a simple zone file: http://ix.io/19fg
[02:08] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: have you verified that your tor proxy works with say a browser?
[02:08] <malice_> (and then read what I posted above - sorry...) - I also tried couple of different examples and I can't get a zone to work.
[02:08] <thecolorjay> No, I will right now.
[02:08] <malice_> Is zic broken on Ubuntu?
[02:08] <malice_> Or is it just me?
[02:09] <malice_> I'm calling it using `zic file-name -d .`
[02:10] <thecolorjay> Yeah it doesn't work for the browser either leftyfb
[02:10] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: ok, so not a problem with apt-transport-tor
[02:10] <thecolorjay> If the daemon is running which it is, why would it not work?
[02:11] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: misconfiguration? Look through logs?
[02:11] <thecolorjay> It's a fresh install of Tor though
[02:11] <thecolorjay> A fresh install of Xubuntu
[02:12] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: is your virtual guest able to reach the internet at all?
[02:12] <thecolorjay> Yeah because I did a system upgrade before configuring apt-transport-tor
[02:13] <thecolorjay> I'll show you exactly what I did, one sec
[02:15] <thecolorjay> https://pastebin.com/pqmLr8E1
[02:16] <leftyfb> sorry, I don't have a lot of experience with the tor daemons. That is what isn't working at the moment though.
[02:17] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: again, look at the configs. Look through logs
[02:17] <thecolorjay> I don't know why it would say it's running if it's failing to connect.
[02:17] <thecolorjay> Okay I'll see what I can find.
[02:18] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: logs usually tell you that sort of thing
[02:20] <thecolorjay> True, lol
[02:21] <thecolorjay> Thanks for the help man, I'll let you know if I fix it and how I fixed it.
[02:25] <thecolorjay> Okay check that last paste again, https://pastebin.com/pqmLr8E1 that's my log output, I can't make anything of it really. I will have to try Tails to see if I can connect to Tor still, maybe my ISP has started blocking it and that's the problem.
[02:30] <leftyfb> Feb 20 02:22:24.000 [warn] Failed to find node for hop #1 of our path. Discarding this circuit.
[02:30] <leftyfb> that doesn't look good to me
[02:30] <leftyfb> looks like it's not connecting to the tor network
[02:31] <thecolorjay> Yeah it's fucking weird, I'm trying the Tor Browser now because Tails wouldn't connect either.
[02:31] <thecolorjay> I'm in fucking Canada, have they started blocking Tor in Canada now?
[02:31] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: please watch the language
[02:32] <thecolorjay> No the Tor Browser is connecting just fine
[02:35] <thecolorjay> Can't connect to onions though :-/
[02:36] <tomreyn> which ubuntu + tor version is this?
[02:37] <thecolorjay> Xubuntu 18.04 but I've tried 18.10 and Debian 9 as well.
[02:37] <thecolorjay> I'll check the Tor version, one sec.
[02:37] <tomreyn> is it a custom tor configuration?
[02:38] <thecolorjay> It's the latest version
[02:38] <thecolorjay> No, it's default
[02:38] <tomreyn> latest upstream tor or latest you found in ubuntu?
[02:39] <thecolorjay> It seems it can't find any guard nodes but the Tor Browser finds guard nodes perfectly fine.
[02:39] <thecolorjay> Latest in Ubuntu
[02:39] <thecolorjay> When I add the Tor Project repository.
[02:39] <tomreyn> hmm actually the one in ubuntu 18.04 works just fine
[02:39] <leftyfb> so not the latest in ubuntu. You're pulling it from the Tor repo
[02:39] <thecolorjay> I've tried the default Tor from the Ubuntu repositories as well but I have the same problem.
[02:39] <thecolorjay> Yes
[02:40] <tomreyn> do you do outbound firewalling?
[02:41] <thecolorjay> I haven't set up any firewall for this VM
[02:42] <thecolorjay> Nor the host
[02:42] <tomreyn> hmm, try aksing in #tor i guess
[02:42] <tomreyn> i think their main channel is on oftc, though
[02:43] <tomreyn> but freenode probably works, too
[02:44] <thecolorjay> Wait a second, I have an Anti-Virus on my host, I'm running Windows at the moment so I am going to disable that and see what happens.
[02:45] <thecolorjay> It's not an Internet Security suite though so it really shouldn't effect anything.
[02:45] <thecolorjay> Okay I'll check there
[02:46] <thecolorjay> Shit, it may be my system clock
[02:46] <thecolorjay> It probably is
[02:47] <thecolorjay> It's not building a circuit and that's what happens if your system clock isn't set properly.
[02:47] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: please watch the language
[02:50] <thecolorjay> :-(
[02:51] <thecolorjay> You ruin all the fun leftyfb
[02:51] <leftyfb> thecolorjay: the channel guidelines are in the topic
[02:58] <nshirelaptop> would it be possible to put something like a virtual machine on one of the terminals accessible through ctrl-alt-f[1-6]?
[02:59] <thecolorjay> Holy monkeys, I got it working!
[02:59] <thecolorjay> It was my system clock, it was way out of whack, I have been trying to get this to work for weeks and it's my damn system clock on my host OS the whole time.
[03:01] <OerHeks> thecolorjay, known issue, when windows time and linux time differ http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/time-differences-ubuntu-1604-windows-10/
[03:01] <OerHeks> utc/local time
[03:02] <nshirelaptop> I recommend making windows use universal time, not altering the linux settings
[03:02] <OerHeks> nshirelaptop +1
[03:02] <leftyfb> i'd recommend not running Windows ;)
[03:02] <OerHeks> utc for the win
[03:03] <nshirelaptop> it really should be on utc anyway, it's the only sane way
[03:03] <OerHeks> or if you have an atom clock onboard, i would use that
[03:03] <nshirelaptop> lol
[03:03] <nshirelaptop> I did "Reg add HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation /v RealTimeIsUniversal /t REG_QWORD /d 1" on my dualboot laptop and it worked like a charm.
[03:04] <OerHeks> nshirelaptop, about that VM on a tty, i have seen that before, but have no clue how to bing that
[03:06] <thecolorjay> Ha ha yeah leftyfb, it's for gaming and I have VirtualBox installed on it so I am using it because I don't have a Linux install at the moment due to this exact problem.
[03:06] <thecolorjay> Will do OerHeks
[03:07] <thecolorjay> The time zone is always screwed up on Windows, it's never right and it is set to UTC but it doesn't seem to matter.
[03:07] <thecolorjay> I have to manually set the hour.
[03:08] <OerHeks> time to replace bios battery?
[03:08] <thecolorjay> Would that be why?
[03:08] <thecolorjay> It's pretty old now
[03:08] <OerHeks> that is, if the time is way off in minutes and hours
[03:08] <thecolorjay> Sweet, I didn't know that, I will get a replacement
[03:08] <thecolorjay> :-D
[03:09] <leftyfb> the battery only matters when you lose power
[03:09] <leftyfb> it won't help drifting
[03:09] <leftyfb> tell Windows to use an NTP server
[03:09] <thecolorjay> True, I can do that.
[03:09] <thecolorjay> It may be modem too, I'll have to check it on there.
[03:10] <thecolorjay> My BIOS is fully up to date.
[03:10] <leftyfb> your modem will not affect your Windows time drifting unless you're pointing your Windows NTP client at your modem(router) as an NTP server and it is having drifting issues
[03:10] <thecolorjay> Oh, alright
[03:10] <thecolorjay> Good to know
[03:10] <leftyfb> just point your Windows machine at an NTP server online somewhere
[03:11] <tomreyn> pick an ntp pool close to you from pool.ntp.org, not the default windows one.
[03:11] <thecolorjay> Sounds good
[03:11] <leftyfb> ^ that
[03:12] <thecolorjay> Okay I used 0.pool.ntp.org
[03:12] <Gerowen> I
[03:12] <Gerowen> hate
[03:12] <Gerowen> wine
[03:13] <nshirelaptop> the NTP server is a bit problematic, it may check the server immediately on boot before the network drivers load, timeout, and give up for a while
[03:13] <Gerowen> I accidentally installed it as a dependency a week or two ago, instantly uninstalled it, but it still added stupid context menu entries in nautilus so that "notepad" still shows up for .ini files, even though it doesn't exist...
[03:13] <thecolorjay> Me too man, Windows is awful
[03:13] <leftyfb> Gerowen: try #wine-hq
[03:13] <Gerowen> I like using Wine to run software, but in a containerized environment, like proton on Steam.
[03:13] <nshirelaptop> also its not very elegant to have the time change drastically on every boot
[03:13] <Gerowen> I hate how it installs crap everywhere and doesn't undo everything when you uninstall it if you just "apt install wine" it.
[03:13] <leftyfb> Gerowen: This is a support channel. Feel free to rant in #uuntu-offtopic
[03:14] <thecolorjay> Yeah Proton is pretty awesome
[03:14] <Gerowen> Sorry, I thought that's where I was, :p
[03:14] <Gerowen> Wrong tab.
[03:14] <ElectroXexual> Hi, is there any way change default keyboard shortcuts of nemo? I just want to switch going up a dir from Alt+up 'to 'Esc'.
[03:15] <nshirelaptop> try the gnome tweaks package I think
[03:15] <nshirelaptop> idk if that will change nemo settings or not... its useful either way
[03:16] <ElectroXexual> I'm not using Gnome
[03:20] <thecolorjay> I've added "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" to my cheat sheet now so I never have that stupid problem again!
[03:28] <nshirelaptop> just got the message " system program problem detected, do you want to report? ..." on boot, what logs should I look at to diagnose?
[03:30] <tomreyn> the previous uptimes' journal / syslog
[03:30] <tomreyn> but if you want a useful backtrace you'll probably need to submit it
[03:31] <thecolorjay> I get that message all the time nshirelaptop, not sure why but it appears on fresh installs, super annoying!
[03:32] <tomreyn>  /var/crash/ should contain all that was logged about it
[03:35] <nshirelaptop> hmm weird, nano shows no contents of gnome.shell.121.crash
[03:35] <nshirelaptop> oh wait I didn't sudo
[03:35] <tomreyn> for reports which were already submitted from your system: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts/blob/master/whoopsie_reports
[04:20] <adm_mint> hello. Wifi doesnt work. Command dmesg shows the network driver "rtl8xxxu" and command lspci doesnt show this driver. In fact, "Network controller..." doesnt appear in that list
[04:57] <Lost_Goat> hey has anyone installed pihole locally on their system instead of using it in a docker container ?
[05:03] <Uzen> hi
[05:04] <Uzen> hi
[05:04] <Uzen> hi
[05:04] <Uzen> hi
[05:04] <Uzen> hi
[05:07] <phazon> Lost_Goat: try #pihole or #raspbian or (preferably) pihole's gitter: https://gitter.im/pi-hole/pi-hole
[05:07] <Lost_Goat> phazon, thanks for the info
[05:08] <phazon> Lost_Goat: they've not really much irc presence tho; best bet is gitter
[05:08] <Lost_Goat> yea i will go with glitter
[05:09] <phazon> for docker support i think they use this one: https://gitter.im/diginc/docker-pi-hole
[05:12] <adm_mint> hello. Wifi doesnt work. Command dmesg shows the network driver "rtl8xxxu" and command lspci doesnt show this driver. In fact, "Network controller..." doesnt appear in that list
[05:19] <lawltoad> When I go into nvidia setting it shows PRIME, propritary drivers are selected, prime-select returns nvidia being used, but glxinfo | grep renderer gives me MESA DRI what gives?
[05:33] <jwash> hi everyone, sound is going through my dvi port, not my hdmi. when i do 'speaker-test --channels 2 --rate 48000 --device hw:1,3' it outputs to the correct place hdmi
[05:34] <jwash> how do i get it to 1,3 all the time?
[05:45] <murthy> jwash: hi
[05:46] <jwash> hi
[05:46] <murthy> jwash: Did you select the proper output device in the sound output settings?
[05:47] <jwash> yes, but it plays through the dvi plug not the hdmi plug
[05:48] <murthy> jwash: can you show the screenshot of the sound settings dialog?
[05:53] <jwash> https://ibb.co/9qKkNLd
[05:56] <Neb_> Hi, could someone please tell me how to enable read write access for a sftp user in ubuntu 1804, cheers.
[05:56] <lawltoad> how do I swithc which package provides glx
[06:09] <d6> Does anyone about the simplest but yet very functional music production software for Ubuntu 18.04
[06:11] <elias_a> d6: What kind of production do you mean?
[06:11] <d6> to make or produce music as stated
[06:12] <elias_a> d6: Writing sheet music and recording & mixing are quite different use cases so define your need.
[06:12] <d6> LOL, what's to define?
[06:15] <zeon98> Anyone bored enough to educate me about Linux and bsd.
[06:16] <elias_a> d6: What is is you are going to do: are you doing the whole chain from making arrangements and writing sheet music and then record and mix.
[06:17] <zeon98> Different topic
[06:18] <zeon98> Sounds like you know stuff about music
[06:18] <elias_a> d6: If just recording and mixing, I'd go for Ardour.
[06:19] <elias_a> zeon98: Well, the concept of music production covers the whole chain.
[06:21] <zeon98> I'm looking into building fx pedals
[06:21] <zeon98> Something you're used
[06:26] <Neb_> Can someone please help me with ssh for ubuntu 1804
[06:27] <underd0g> Neb_: what do you need help with in regards to ssh?
[06:27] <lawltoad> what do you need Neb_ ?
[06:28] <Neb_> Basically my firewall was not allowing incoming sftp connections, so I ran ufw disable, ufw reset, added back the ssh sftp port 80 443 etc, then ufw enabled. Although now ssh is not working along with sftp -_-
[06:31] <underd0g> Neb_: I know alot of ISP's block the forwarding of port 443. did you have it running correctly recently
[06:32] <Neb_> It was all working perfectly beforehand, the ssh that is. It is a digital ocean VPS so I dont think thats the problem
[06:34] <underd0g> Neb_: check sudo ufw status to see if they are actually open
[06:37] <Neb_> Seems ive messed up bad, apparently root is the wrong username for the digital ocean console when its never been changed haha
[06:40] <pi0> anyone here use seahorse on ubuntu
[06:44] <Neb_> At the ubuntu login it asks for username, when i type root it says login incorrect without even asking for a pw
[06:47] <phoenix_firebrd> jwash: do you use any software like jack?
[06:48] <jwash> no
[06:52] <lawltoad> Hi, I'm trying to install bumblebee and get the following
[06:52] <lawltoad> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:52] <lawltoad>  bumblebee : Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.18)
[06:52] <lawltoad>              Recommends: virtualgl but it is not installable or
[06:52] <lawltoad>                          primus but it is not going to be installed
[06:56] <murthy> jwash: take a look at this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Examples
[06:57] <murthy> lawltoad: what is the source of the package?
[06:57] <lawltoad> murthy, source?
[06:57] <murthy> Neb_: at the terminal or greeter ?
[06:58] <lawltoad> murthy, just a regular apt-get install bumblebee on a freshis install of 18.04 bionic
[06:58] <Neb_> @murthy At the terminal
[06:58] <Neb_> Idk what todo because I literally cannot access the machine.
[06:58] <murthy> lawltoad: you downloaded the deb from somewhere or you are trying to install from repository?
[06:58] <phazon> lawltoad: try without recommends: apt-get install --no-install-recommends bumblebee
[06:58] <lawltoad> whats that do?
[06:59] <lawltoad> murthy, the repo
[06:59] <lawltoad> phazon, That gives me a: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:59] <lawltoad>  bumblebee : Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.18)
[06:59] <lawltoad> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:59] <murthy> Neb_: its your local workstation?
[07:00] <Neb_> Its a vps murthy
[07:00] <Neb_> I just forced access through the recovery ios
[07:00] <Neb_> But i need to somehow reset the root user
[07:00] <Neb_> login
[07:01] <murthy> Neb_: Sorry couldn't help you on that
[07:01] <lawltoad> Neb_, passwd changes users' passwords if thats what you're asking
[07:02] <Neb_> Its not the password guys, its when the terminal asks for my username i type "root" which is what it has always been
[07:02] <phazon> v, xserver-xorg-core
[07:02] <Neb_> but it instantly replies with login incorrect without asking for a password
[07:03] <phazon> lawltoad: bionic should have 2:1.19; did you apt-get update first?
[07:04] <Neb_> now im getting  WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!
[07:05] <Neb_> guess im getting hacked
[07:05] <Neb_> gg
[07:05] <lawltoad> phazon, Yep, just ran an apt-get update
[07:05] <lawltoad> and apt-get upgrade
[07:05] <RonSir> Hi all
[07:05] <RonSir> new to Ubuntu, well all of them, but Gentoo flavors
[07:06] <murthy> RonSir: hi
[07:06] <RonSir> I would like to build GCC-8.2.X
[07:06] <RonSir> I have git GCC off the ubuntu servers
[07:07] <RonSir> and in Gentoo I'd know what to do, but here I don't
[07:07] <lawltoad> phazon, trying to install xserver-xorg-core wants to remove a bunch of stuff like:   ubuntu-desktop xorg xserver-xorg-core-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-input-all-hwe-18.04
[07:08] <RonSir> I have tar xf all the *.gz files that I checked out
[07:08] <phazon> lawltoad: well, what broken packages do you have held back? 'apt-mark showhold'
[07:08] <lawltoad> RonSir, This is a kinda stupid answer.... but when I need fresh binaries I install arch in docker and cp out the binaries I need *shrugs*
[07:08] <murthy> RonSir: install the build-essentials package
[07:08] <RonSir> That is done murthy
[07:08] <lawltoad> phazon, that returns nothing. with and without sudo
[07:09] <RonSir> docker is far off at the moment.. Probably wise, but for now.. Do it as old schoole as old me.. :)
[07:10] <murthy> RonSir: to install the build dependency packages, use the command sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[07:11] <murthy> RonSir: after that the usual build procedure
[07:11] <phazon> lawltoad: no clue then
[07:11] <RonSir> Murthy apt-get build-dep gcc-8
[07:12] <lawltoad> is there a way to force install bumblebee without deps
[07:12] <pi0> what is considered a front end for gnupg
[07:12] <pi0> for ubuntu
[07:12] <murthy> RonSir: yes
[07:12] <murthy> RonSir: that will install all the build deps
[07:13] <RonSir> Yes, I see it pulling them down
[07:13] <RonSir> done
[07:14] <murthy> RonSir: ya, also prefer to use "/usr" for install prefix on Ubuntu
[07:15] <murthy> RonSir: build started?
[07:15] <RonSir> currently the checkout for the ubuntu gcc-8 git is /home/ron/gccsrc/gcc-8
[07:15] <murthy> ok
[07:15] <RonSir> no compile as started taht I am aware of
[07:16] <RonSir> Didn't "apt-get build-dep gcc-8" just pull down the binaries?
[07:16] <murthy> RonSir: only the dependency packages
[07:16] <murthy> not the source
[07:17] <murthy> RonSir: you have to git clone the source in your case
[07:17] <RonSir> I did this earlier
[07:17] <RonSir> git clone https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-8
[07:18] <RonSir> and tar xf on the *.xz files
[07:19] <murthy> RonSir: ok, and?
[07:20] <RonSir> so it looks like I have the sources, debian, gcc-8, gdc* and nvptx-newlib-20180424
[07:20] <pi0> which book do you recommend for learning ubuntu
[07:20] <pi0> especially memory management
[07:20] <Neb_> Can someone please help me with this error, it was encountered after using "ufw reset" then "ufw enable" https://imgur.com/mFs8yGw
[07:20] <kreyren> i'm getting `rces.list:2 and /etc/apt/sources.list:6
[07:20] <kreyren> W: Target CNF (non-free/cnf/Commands-all) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:2 and /etc/apt/sources.list:6` on http://ix.io/1Byu more info?
[07:21] <RonSir> Ok, how do I kick off building it?  I want to set march=native --mtune=skylake-avx512
[07:21] <kreyren> suspect that some contrib non-free flags are not supported for some ubuntu's repos
[07:22] <RonSir> Once I get down the 'process' for ubuntu I should be ok.. its just learning building and installing for this distro vs. Gentoo flavors
[07:22] <murthy> RonSir: no problem, I will help you
[07:23] <murthy> RonSir: set the flag with cmake
[07:23] <pi0> murthy: how to i see frozen processes in ubuntu
[07:23] <RonSir> set a flag with cmake?
[07:24] <RonSir> or the flags I want?
[07:24] <murthy> pi0: usually frozen apps usually use high cpu
[07:24] <Neb_> #
[07:24] <Neb_> !
[07:24] <Neb_> !help
[07:25] <murthy> pi0: other than that there is no place they are indicated
[07:25] <pi0> what are the linux cmds to view processes
[07:25] <murthy> Neb_: !patience
[07:26] <Neb_> what do you mean murthy
[07:26] <Neb_> i was trying to browse the commands for this irc server
[07:26] <Neb_> so i could view all the channels
[07:26] <murthy> Neb_: people will help you, wait
[07:27] <murthy> RonSir: use can use the flags with cmake or set using cmake-gui
[07:27] <Neb_> I know this clearly, i was trying to view the commands of the server
[07:27] <Neb_> Murphy
[07:31] <pi0> does anyone have guides to troubleshooting processes
[07:31] <pi0> or how to kill them
[07:31] <pi0> and monitor
[07:32] <murthy> pi0: use top
[07:32] <murthy> pi0: press k and then enter the pid and then press enter
[07:32] <murthy> oh forgot..
[07:32] <murthy> you have to enter the code
[07:33] <murthy> I guess 9 for kill and 15 for terminate
[07:33] <murthy> there is also htop
[07:33] <murthy> and If you want to for example close all chrome tabs
[07:34] <murthy> you could do "sudo killall chrome"
[07:35] <murthy> pi0: The only process label that I have seen is "zombie"
[07:36] <murthy> pi0: also try "kill <processpid>"
[07:36] <pi0> oh wow
[07:36] <pi0> there must be like 1000 prcosses running
[07:36] <murthy> ya, those are the system processes
[07:37] <pi0> user named whoopsie
[07:37] <pi0> hmm
[07:37] <murthy> :D
[07:37] <pi0> is that real?
[07:37] <murthy> ya
[07:37] <pi0> what does that do
[07:38] <qwebirc27649> test
[07:38] <murthy> I think its crash reoprting/debugging thing'
[07:38] <murthy> pi0: ^
[07:38] <murthy> qwebirc27649: what?
[07:39] <qwebirc27649> couldn't see my own name so I figured it would pop up if I wrote test
[07:39] <RonSir> I am back, system froze
[07:39] <pi0> is there a difference between htop and top
[07:39] <RonSir> hand to reboot and restart the VM
[07:40] <qwebirc27649> htop has a better overview of cpu usage
[07:40] <RonSir> Murthy where were we?
[07:41] <RonSir> you said something with cmake
[07:41] <murthy> RonSir: you where asking about cmake flags
[07:42] <murthy> RonSir: I said you can supply with cmake as parameter or set them with cmake-gui
[07:42] <RonSir> Ah, ok, let me see how far I can go with that.. brb
[07:42] <RonSir> cmake-gui as me or root?
[07:43] <qwebirc27649> ppl... my swift 1 sf114 keeps freezing with ubuntu 18.04 mate... where to go ask this?
[07:43] <murthy> qwebirc27649: you the nick irc command to change your nick
[07:43] <murthy> RonSir: as you
[07:43] <qwebirc27649> nick nmma
[07:44] <qwebirc27649> help
[07:44] <murthy> qwebirc27649: you have to use backslash before nick word
[07:44] <qwebirc27649> \nick nmma
nick <nickname>
[07:45] <murthy> qwebirc27649: sorry forward slash
[07:45] <qwebirc27649> doesnt seem to work
[07:45] <nmma> hoooray
[07:45] <murthy> cheers
[07:48] <Neb_> Can someone please help me with this error, it was encountered after using "ufw reset" then "ufw enable" https://imgur.com/mFs8yGw
[07:48] <nmma> so anyone running mate on acer swift 14"
[07:50] <murthy> Neb_: more advance users are active at US or European morning hours, they could help you
[07:51] <murthy> If I say something wrong it could break your system, so I wont try
[07:52] <phazon> Neb_: also: please try to provide text, instead of images of text; or link to the image file directly: https://i.imgur.com/mFs8yGw.jpg
[08:00] <Sinth> Any advanced users active able to help with ubuntu
[08:01] <ducasse> !ask | Sinth
[08:02] <Sinth> Can someone please read a error log todo with ip6tables and inform me of what the problem is? Ubuntu 18.04.
[08:05] <lawltoad> Hi I have package A that provides B. and package C that requiers B. A is installed but apt-get won't install C
[08:07] <murthy> lawltoad: that is a dependency issue
[08:07] <murthy> lawltoad: how did you install A
[08:08] <ducasse> lawltoad: what is the exact error you get?
[08:08] <lawltoad> A was already installed
[08:08] <lawltoad> it provides B
[08:08] <lawltoad> which I assume makes B a pseudo package?
[08:09] <murthy> lawltoad: tell me A's name
[08:10] <ducasse> better yet, pastebin the full dependency fields of both packages and the error output
[08:10] <lawltoad> kjeet@Slate:~/bumb$ apt-cache show xserver-xorg-core-hwe-18.04| grep Provides
[08:10] <lawltoad> Provides:  ... xserver-xorg-core ...
[08:10] <LaRose_Bleu> sup nerds
[08:11] <lawltoad> A is xserver-xorg-core-hwe-18.04 , xserver-xorg-core is B
[08:11] <lawltoad> murthy, ^^^
[08:12] <murthy> lawltoad: B is installed?
[08:12] <ducasse> and c?
[08:13] <lawltoad> ducasse, C is bumblebee
[08:13] <lawltoad> murthy, A is installed. I assume that means B is sufficently provided and dosn't seed installation ....
[08:14] <ducasse> ok, what is the exact error you get? use a pastebin if more than one line
[08:14] <lawltoad> murthy, Trying to install B directly trys to remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:14] <murthy> lawltoad: paste the output of "sudo apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core"
[08:15] <lawltoad> murthy, It says installed none
[08:15] <lawltoad> Am I misunderstandin provides?
[08:16] <murthy> lawltoad: have you used aptitude?
[08:17] <murthy> I am wondering how xserver-xorg-core is not installed
[08:18] <ducasse> lawltoad: does 'apt policy xserver-xorg-core-hwe-18.04' list it as installed?
[08:18] <lawltoad> ducasse, Yes
[08:19] <ducasse> ok, can you pastebin the full error?
[08:23] <murthy> lawltoad: when you use aptitude to install package B, It will give you options to resolve the dependency issue, but you should be careful/know what to do
[08:24] <jelly> also, aptitude is not installed by default
[08:24] <murthy> ya
[08:25] <lawltoad> murthy, ducasse jelly Here's a series of commands I've been asked to run and their outputs:
[08:25] <lawltoad> https://paste.debian.net/1069107/
[08:25] <lawltoad> Hi, jelly Thanks for dropping by
[08:28] <ducasse> lawltoad: try 'apt install --no-install-recommends bumblebee'
[08:28] <lawltoad> murthy, Aptitude output https://paste.debian.net/1069108/
[08:28] <lawltoad> Ive tried the no-install
[08:29] <lawltoad> same issue
[08:29] <phazon> ducasse: we already tried that
[08:30] <lawltoad> I tried using apt-get download + dpkg -i to get around it but then apt-get compalined about breakage and wouldn't let me install unrelated package until I fixed broken
[08:31] <ducasse> phazon: in another channel?
[08:32] <phazon> in this one; like two hours ago
[08:32] <ducasse> ah, ok.
[08:32] <murthy> lawltoad: from what I understand from the log xserver-xorg-core conflicts with these https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xSG4GwF3vD/
[08:33] <murthy> lawltoad: If you want to install xserver-xorg-core, you need to remove the conflicting packages
[08:34] <lawltoad> This is a fairly fresh install, so those were what were installed by defualt. Is it wise to uninstall those?
[08:34] <murthy> lawltoad: you chose to install proprietary stuff during install?
[08:35] <ducasse> lawltoad: does 'apt install -f' want to do anything?
[08:35] <lawltoad> ducasse, nope
[08:35] <murthy> I guess that create a dependency nightmare
[08:36] <lawltoad> murthy, Just the nvidia drivers from the software updates GUI
[08:37] <lawltoad> Is there a way to ignore xserver-xorg-core or mark it "done"
[08:37] <lawltoad> as a dependency that is
[08:37] <lawltoad> just to try to force it
[08:37] <murthy> lawltoad: you can force, but It may break your system
[08:38] <lawltoad> Haha, how do I do it. I'm game.
[08:38] <ducasse> read the dpkg man page, the --force options
[08:38] <murthy> lawltoad: have you done a backup?
[08:38] <ducasse> you're on your own, though
[08:38] <lawltoad> Its a fresh install
[08:38] <lawltoad> nothing to backup
[08:39] <lawltoad> the problem with the dpkg was that after that apt-get insisted on trying to --fic-broken
[08:39] <lawltoad> it refused to instlal anything else
[08:39] <murthy> lawltoad: are you ok on reinstalling, If something goes wrong?
[08:39] <ducasse> it will do that
[08:39] <lawltoad> murthy, Yea
[08:40] <murthy> lawltoad: ok then install "xserver-xorg-core"
[08:40] <lawltoad> ducasse, I'm willing to risk the install but permanantly having an unusable apt-get ins a nogo
[08:40] <lawltoad> haha
[08:40] <murthy> lawltoad: If apt want to unistall stuff say yes
[08:40] <lawltoad> haha okay
[08:40] <lawltoad> If I don't get back to you for an hour you'll know why. Wish me luck
[08:41] <murthy> :D
[08:41] <ducasse> you should just lose the hwe packages
[08:41] <lawltoad> It's removing ubuntu-desktop. hope you're happy
[08:42] <lawltoad> It's done. that was fast. I'mma reboot. BRB
[08:43] <murthy> ha ha ha, probably not
[08:43] <murthy> he should have installed ubuntu-desktop before a reboot
[08:44] <ducasse> it's just a metapackage
[08:45] <murthy> ducasse: ya, but some package might have been removed and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop would have restored them
[08:48] <ducasse> according to the output he pasted, he would just lose a couple of metapackages and the hwe stack, but it didn't look like they would be replaced by anything
[08:52] <lawltoad> My machine started. But as soon as I logged in the mouse and keyboard don't work haha
[08:52] <murthy> lawltoad: I think Its a driver issue
[08:52] <murthy> lawltoad: why did you go for a restart?
[08:54] <lawltoad> Well I needed to restart xorg to see if it's use Nvidia right?
[08:54] <murthy> lawltoad: ok
[08:55] <murthy> lawltoad: now have you tried installing whatever you wanted to install?
[08:57] <lawltoad> Yeah I did those before the reboot. But my X is frozen haha. The mouse and keyboard don't work. I think it might start in Wayland mode?
[08:58] <lawltoad> *I'm on it from my phone now
[08:58] <murthy> lawltoad: use nvidia config to reconfigure xorg
[09:05] <lawltoad> I ran sudo nvidia-xconfig from Wayland and then tried to reboot into xorg. Still stuck
[09:06] <usil> how can I encrypt home partition? in 16.04 I can do this during instalation process, but this option has been removed in 18.04
[09:08] <murthy> lawltoad: you know nvidia driver installation is messy
[09:08] <TomyWork> did ubuntu (or debian for that matter) ever have issues like this: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=953130
[09:09] <TomyWork> i.e. installation slowing down due to many installed packages/files
[09:09] <ducasse> lawltoad: if i were you, i'd consider just reinstalling from an 18.04.2 image
[09:11] <murthy> lawltoad: do you see any error messages when you run this command "journalctl -p err"
[09:11] <lawltoad> Will do, but this is a nearly fresh install. I'd still like to get it working
[09:11] <lawltoad> Haha
[09:11] <ducasse> ubottu: there's a script in ecryptfs-utils, ecryptfs-migrate-home - read the man page
[09:11] <ducasse> usil: there's a script in ecryptfs-utils, ecryptfs-migrate-home - read the man page
[09:12] <murthy> brb
[09:22] <zprd> hi does gnome maps work without networkManager? it says "Map is offline"
[09:27] <usil> ducasse: where
[09:27] <usil> ducasse: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/ecryptfs-migrate-home.8.html
[09:41] <G3TPI> Amateur radio users ??/
[09:42] <jeremy31> G3TPI: might want to try amateur forums
[09:46] <DevAntoine> Hi
[09:46] <DevAntoine> I'm not sure to understand what's happening but I've got a permission issue with my VM. I've got a Vagrant box using Virtual box under MacOs. The shared directory is mounted using NFS. So, first thing: the user and group for each file/directory is not the "vagrant" user, rather it's "390174564:2053297127" which, I assume, should match my host's uuid and guid. I'm not sure if it's an issue for my Ubuntu VM or not.
[09:46] <DevAntoine> Real issue: I've got a "pm2" process running with the "vagrant" user. This process tries to create files and directory in one of the shared directory (remember, NFS). The root directory is owned by "vagrant:vagrant" (but translates to uuid and guid) but even if I set it to 777 the pm2 process is not able to create directory. Only files.
[10:14] <alakx> Hey, is there a way to use gpu for rendering? application 'renderd'
[10:23] <murthy> alakx: you mean composite rendering
[10:25] <cpranzl1> q
[10:29] <c06> hi all
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> welcome c06
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> how can we help you c06
[10:30] <c06> i am trying to enable dpdk on virtual machines
[10:30] <c06> i am using libvirt (virsh) to create vm and my host machine has ovs-dpdk enabled bridges
[10:31] <c06> any have experience on this dpdk on VMs
[10:31] <alakx> murthy,  well basicly use gpu instead of cpu
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> c06: try to expand your details to the channel so volunteers can try thinking along like: ubuntu version, virtual machine? vbox? using dpdk from the ubuntu repos?
[10:33] <c06> lotuspsychje: sure and thanks
[10:35] <c06> i am using ubuntu 16.04 and i created ubuntu vms using virsh (libvirt). and my host machine has dpdk(ovs) enabled bridges. and i am trying to create dpdk inside my virtual machine. i gave my net driver model as e1000 in vm.xml file
[10:35] <c06> but dpdk is still failing inside my vm
[10:37] <Lamentin> hi
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> welcome Lamentin
[10:46] <verno> can anyone help me with executing a xmodmap command on startup?
[10:49] <Skela> Hello, i want to host with Ubuntu 16.04 a wifi network with wps enabled in order to let my printer to connect easily, how to do that?
[10:56] <Skela> Hi there, anyone can help me
[10:57] <blackflow> !patience | Skela
[11:04] <nirakara> so i installed ubuntu with full disk encryption using the "automatic" option in the installer
[11:04] <nirakara> im thrashing the disk a lot because the default swap size was too small (1/4 RAM)
[11:04] <nirakara> llvm was used, so i thought, hey let me resize my swap partition
[11:05] <nirakara> then i saw this page and i got extremely afraid https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[11:05] <nirakara> is there a guide to do this that considers the default install and guides you from there (ext4, etc?) I'm really afraid to brick my install as I'm travelling with a new machine and i can't afford to lose this install right now
[11:06] <nirakara> otherwise is there a way to activate "two swaps" and then i can use a file based swap?
[11:07] <jeremy31> nirakara: It is possible to disable the swap partition and use a swap file on a standard install, I do not use encryption
[11:07] <nirakara> jeremy31: thanks for the tip
[11:08] <blackflow> nirakara: btw... enlarging the swap will not reduce "thrashing the disk"...
[11:08] <blackflow> only adding more RAM will. if the swap is not large enough to page out what needs to be paged out, you'll get OOMd
[11:09] <blackflow> if you add more swap it's actually going to cause MORE i/o unless you address the primary cause of it: lack of RAM
[11:16] <nirakara> blackflow: its just my swap is full so i don't mind the thrashing so much as everything freezing
[11:17] <nirakara> RAM for this x230 is really expensive. 4GB needs to last at least until i can save up enough money or someone gives me a link to cheaper RAM :D
[11:19] <blackflow> nirakara: well you can add more swap to make it less stormy but ultimately only more RAM will help. OR... use software that requires less of it. eg. gnome + browsers tends to suck out a GB or two just to say OHAI!
[11:32] <isomari> greetings, on my kubuntu desktop, right clicking only gives my a logout option. no reboot or shutdown.
[11:45] <venik212> Does anyone understand why Ibus forgets the additional input methods I add as soon as I add them?
[11:45] <venik212> There is NO LANGUAGE support in Lubuntu 18.10 .  Clean in stall of 18.10
[11:46] <venik212> in stall is like install ;-)
[11:51] <rukas3> hello, im using ffmpeg to capture a live rtsp stream and writing it to a file, how can i make the file only 1 hour from current time, ie, truncate the start of the file?
[11:51] <venik212> use Audacity?
[11:55] <venik212> how do I suppress info about people joining and leaving the channel?
[11:57] <Fuchs> venik212: that depends on your client, http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages has it for most
[11:57] <venik212> I am using Pidgin...  I looked but couldn't find it
[11:58] <venik212> thanks-- I need to use a plugin
[12:00] <venik212> got it.  How about input methods in Lubuntu 18.10?
[12:02] <TabMasher> venik212: NO Language support?  So, you can't read anything at all?
[12:02] <venik212> Yes I can-- but only in English
[12:03] <venik212> (the default language)
[12:03] <TabMasher> Oh, so there is language support.  ...for English.
[12:03] <venik212> I added Czech to Ibus preferences, but it lost it as soon as I closed the preference dialog
[12:03] <venik212> I meant that there is no item in the menu: Language Support
[12:04] <Meliodas> Please help me, I cannot login to ubuntu via terminal, when i use the username "root" it tells me incorrect login without even asking for a password.
[12:04] <venik212> on another machine, using Ibus preferences to add input method worked, but not on mine
[12:05] <venik212> Meliodas, you need to add yourself as a user
[12:05] <Meliodas> Ok venik, I can do that, but how do i add perms to myself
[12:07] <majest1c> I have an issue with ubuntu 18.10. The wifi works good at home, no connection failed. But at school (at eduroam and their own wifi network) I disconnect multiple times and suddenly the network comes back after 30 seconds. I dont know what is causing this, because noone else loses connection to the wifi network. What could be the issue?
[12:08] <venik212> Majes-- change the driver.  They are often terrible
[12:10] <majest1c> venik212: How do I check what network card I have
[12:13] <majest1c> venik212: Ill buy a new network card probably, broadcom sucks, at least with Linux
[12:15] <Meliodas>  I run sudo whoami and get /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 in response
[12:20] <Meliodas>  I run sudo whoami and get /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 in response, please let me know if there is a way to resolve this.
[12:23] <geirha> Meliodas: what does   ls -l /usr/bin/sudo   output?
[12:26] <Meliodas> it outputs -rwsr-xr-x 1 admin sftp 149080 Jan 18 2018 /usr/bin/sundo geirha
[12:26] <geirha> sundo?
[12:26] <Meliodas> typo
[12:27] <Meliodas> im using the web terminal right now because ssh will not work
[12:27] <geirha> any idea how it got that ownership? it should've been owned by root, not admin
[12:27] <Meliodas> What would the command be to set that ownership?
[12:28] <Meliodas> I was meddeling around with ufw today trying to get sftp to work but thats about all
[12:29] <geirha> I would be a chown run as root, perhaps  sudo chown -R admin ...  accidentally run on the wrong dir
[12:29] <geirha> *It
[12:30] <Meliodas> Hmm I dont think ive ever used chown, ive used chmod recently but thats about it
[12:30] <Meliodas> I can't login to root at all rn
[12:31] <geirha> password for root is normally disabled
[12:31] <Meliodas> I usually always use root + pw to login via ssh, I have not setup any ssh keys
[12:32] <geirha> I'd be scared not knowing what caused sudo to be given wrong ownership
[12:33] <Meliodas> Damn
[12:33] <geirha> to fix it, you'll have to boot into recovery mode or a live session, to set the ownership back to root:root
[12:33] <Meliodas> im in recovery mode right now haha
[12:33] <geirha> but if it has happened to sudo, it might have happened to other files as well
[12:33] <Meliodas> thats the terminal im using since I cannot login via root
[12:34] <geirha> chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo
[12:35] <geirha> it may be a similar thing causing you to not be able to log in as root
[12:35] <Meliodas> damn
[12:36] <Meliodas> I must have messed something up while trying to give admin sftp read write perms
[12:36] <Meliodas> I assume thats where I wen't wrong, although my knowledge is minimal with ubuntu
[12:38] <pagios> hello, i have a NFS question, i have a server hosting some mp4 files, and a client mounting the directory of the nfs server locally. The users mainly connect to the webserver on the client which is mounting the mp4 directory of the server. My question is, when a user tries to play the mp4 file, he uses the nfs mount on the client, does it mean if i have 100 clients, i create 100 request for nfs between the client and server?
[12:38] <pagios> or is it one request for the mp4 that is shred by all the users?
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> pagios: ubuntu-server?
[12:40] <pagios> yes
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> pagios: come join in #ubuntu-server please
[12:40] <geirha> Meliodas: ls -l /usr/bin  do you see other files with admin and sftp ownership?
[12:43] <Meliodas> No it is all root root geirha
[12:44] <geirha> ok, so it probably wasn't a recursive chown then at least
[12:45] <Meliodas> yeah
[12:47] <Meliodas> I possibly ran something like this geirha "sudo chmod -R 775 /var/www" if that makes any sense at all, im just scowering all the guides i was looking at
[12:47] <Meliodas> or just "chmod -R 775 /var/www"
[12:50] <neure> Hi
[12:50] <neure> I've got this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1798171/comments/25
[12:51] <neure> How do I remove stray EFI variables?
[12:54] <ioria> neure, laste comment -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1798171
[12:57] <Meliodas> You still there geirha my friend?
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | Meliodas can this help?
[12:58] <Meliodas> !chmod
[12:59] <Meliodas> thanks ubottu, unfortunatley I think i'm in a slightly bigger predicament
[12:59] <murthy> Meliodas: ubottu is a bot
[12:59] <Meliodas> lol
[13:00] <Meliodas> trolled / 10
[13:01] <asciiwarrior7> hey, I want to make alt+tab switch only between the workspace windows instead of all windows on all workspaces
[13:01] <asciiwarrior7> It worked with:
[13:01] <asciiwarrior7> gsettings set org.gnome.shell.app-switcher current-workspace-only true
[13:02] <asciiwarrior7> that was the solution
[13:02] <asciiwarrior7> if someone need it soo
[13:02] <pragmaticenigma> asciiwarrior7: There already is a keyboard shortcut for switching workspaces
[13:02] <asciiwarrior7> too*
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> super+pgup/pgdown
[13:03] <asciiwarrior7> I know my keybinds for switching workspaces
[13:03] <asciiwarrior7> my problem was the default alt tab behaviour
[13:04] <pragmaticenigma> oh
[13:04] <pragmaticenigma> I get it now
[13:04] <asciiwarrior7> I wanted to tab between windows limitted on my current workspace
[13:04] <lyze> Hey! I'm currently trying to install ubuntu server 18.04.2 on a new system. I want to setup software raid for / but when it tries to create the partition on /dev/md0 it fails and crashes: https://i.imgur.com/5SlaWwI.jpg   Installing the system without raid but using all drives works fine. Setting up raid with https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Software-RAID/ manually in a live cd works also fine. Could somebody help? c:
[13:04] <asciiwarrior7> but the default behaviour lists all windows ever opened
[13:05] <pragmaticenigma> lyze: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-server ... there are people there more experienced in server setups
[13:05] <geirha> Meliodas: a chmod didn't do this, a chown did
[13:05] <lyze> pragmaticenigma, alright, will do
[13:05] <Meliodas> ok geirha
[13:05] <Meliodas> just trying to find a way to allow root login again rn
[13:10] <Meliodas> geirha, I can now login with the admin account to ssh
[13:10] <Meliodas> still not root though
[13:10] <Meliodas> any ideas
[13:11] <geirha> not without knowing what caused it to fail in the first place
[13:11] <geirha> though looking through /var/log may yield clues
[13:14] <absence> i tried to do add-apt-repository, and got an error about the repository not having a Release file, which means updating from it is disabled by default because of security. how can i enable it?
[13:15] <OerHeks> absence, what repository exactly? looks like that ppa has no candidate for your version
[13:16] <absence> OerHeks: add-apt-repository ppa:nathan-renniewaldock/flux
[13:16] <OerHeks> absence, did you look it up on launchpad?
[13:16] <absence> no, elsewhere
[13:17] <OerHeks> oh, you should look it up on launchpad, 'elsewhere'  is not oke
[13:17] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~nathan-renniewaldock/+archive/ubuntu/flux
[13:17] <OerHeks> up to bionic, no cosmic
[13:18] <OerHeks> and ubuntu has 'nightlight' what does the same as flux, system settings > devices > display
[13:21] <absence> OerHeks: nightlight seems very basic in comparison, so i'd prefer flux. the error message i got is "Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default." which makes it sounds like this is something i can enable manually, is that incorrect?
[13:21] <BlackDalek> I'm having a problem trying to run do-release-upgrade on a computer with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS installed. It fails with message about needing to install all available updates. When I do this that also fails with a message "The following packages have been kept back: kodi va-driver-all". How do I force it to update these packages and continue with the release upgrade?
[13:22] <OerHeks> absence, what ubuntu version?
[13:22] <absence> OerHeks: good question..
[13:23] <Meliodas> I got into root geirha via su - root
[13:23] <leftyfb> Meliodas: may I ask why you need to ssh or login as root?
[13:23] <absence> OerHeks: i can't seem to find an "about" menu or something like that
[13:24] <Meliodas> Thats just what I always used lefty, since first installing ubuntu
[13:24] <Meliodas> its really my first time dealing with the OS
[13:24] <leftyfb> BlackDalek: you'll need to remove your PPA's and all the packages installed from them
[13:24] <leftyfb> Meliodas: ok, so time to do things properly now?
[13:25] <Meliodas> What do you mean?
[13:26] <leftyfb> Meliodas: if you have no legitimate reason to ssh as root or login as root other than "thats just what I always used", then don't. It's not the right way to do things and is very dangerous.
[13:26] <Meliodas> Ok
[13:26] <Meliodas> Ive broken my website anyways
[13:26] <Meliodas> looks like im gonna have to hard reset unfortunatley -_-
[13:27] <Meliodas> Must have ruined perms along the way and now i cannot access anything
[13:27] <absence> OerHeks: 18.10 it seems
[13:27] <leftyfb> Meliodas: or you could troubleshoot or restore from backup
[13:27] <OerHeks> absence, oke, cosmic, so no candidate for your version
[13:28] <OerHeks> wait for the ppa owner to build it, or contact him
[13:28] <Meliodas> Yeah im so new i have no clue how to troubleshoot, im convinced it is not too hard to fix but so rookie i will struggle
[13:28] <absence> OerHeks: so the error message is incorrect?
[13:28] <OerHeks> absence, yes, i recognized the inrelease error
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:29] <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hi OerHeks
[13:30] <Meliodas> Do you know any troubleshooting cmds lefty?
[13:32] <absence> OerHeks: ok thanks, in that case i'll just install the deb manually
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> Meliodas: try using tab when typing a name. when you "tag" someone, their IRC client only highlights if the whole name is present
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> !tab
[13:37] <aurolac> is there no packaged deb file for the Fractal maxtrix client available?
[13:37] <Meliodas> cheers pragmaticenigma
[13:37] <aurolac> can't seem to find a snap for it either
[13:37] <aurolac> or doe one just have to clone and install it from git
[13:39] <OerHeks> aurolac, there is a flatpack https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Fractal
[13:39] <aurolac> grr ok, so i have to install flatpak first, ok thx
[13:39] <leftyfb> Meliodas: yes, I do. As do many others in here. That's what it's for. I do have to head to work now but there's plenty of people here capable of helping you troubleshoot your issue.
[13:40] <Meliodas> Ok cheers leftyfb
[13:40] <Meliodas> Hopefully someone will let me know if they can help in the near future
[13:50] <Meliodas> FIGURED OUT MY PROBLEM! Yes!
[13:50] <OerHeks> :-)
[14:05] <te_x> Hey, I'm having some problems using SSHFS since I updated to 18.04. For some season whenever I try to mount the command just hangs, without any output. After ~30seconds I get a "Connection timed out". I've tried mouting with a Lubuntu 18.10 VM and everything worked fine. Any ideas?
[14:06] <Seveas> te_x: can you ssh to the host you're trying to mount?
[14:06] <te_x> Seveas: yes, ssh works fine
[14:06] <Seveas> and does the connection attempt by sshfs show up in the logs of the server?
[14:08] <te_x> Seveas: I haven't checked. Do you know where the logs are?
[14:08] <Seveas> /var/log/auth.log
[14:13] <te_x> Seveas: Thanks, no. I only see my ssh connections the the ones from the VM
[14:14] <Seveas> te_x: does sftp to the host work?
[14:16] <te_x> Seveas: SCP works fine too
[14:16] <Seveas> scp is irrelevant, does sftp work
[14:17] <te_x> ah, sorry, can you tell me how to test that?
[14:18] <Seveas> sftp hostname.goes.here
[14:19] <te_x> it gives me back a "Connected to hostname.goes.here." and then a promtp "sftp> "
[14:19] <te_x> *prompt
[14:19] <Seveas> try 'ls' in that prompt
[14:19] <te_x> works fine too
[14:20] <Seveas> ok, sftp is not the issue :) Try this one: sshfs -d hostname.goes.here /mountpoint/goes/here
[14:21] <te_x> That one I tried before:
[14:21] <te_x> FUSE library version: 2.9.7nullpath_ok: 0nopath: 0utime_omit_ok: 0
[14:21] <te_x> and then hangs there
[14:22] <Windy> how can I determine if an ubuntu system has been regularly updated?
[14:23] <Seveas> te_x: can you check with ps whether an sftp process is running?
[14:23] <OerHeks> Windy, check the /var/log/dpkg.log ( with timestamps)
[14:23] <Seveas> Windy: check whether there are updates to apply, and check the apt/dpkg logs in /var/log
[14:24] <Windy> so, dpkg.log itself is empty, but dpkg.log.1 has entries from as recently as 11-14-2018
[14:24] <Windy> so that would be the last time it was updated then likely
[14:24] <Seveas> te_x: it should look like: ssh -x -a -oClearAllForwardings=yes -2 hostname.goes.here -s sftp
[14:25] <Seveas> Windy: not necessarily. That was the last time dpkg did something. Could be an update, could be a new package install or a package removal
[14:25] <Seveas> you'll need to look at the content
[14:30] <te_x> Seveas: running "ps -ef | grep sftp" on the server gives me back an empty list
[14:30] <Windy> what packages would i look for?  i see linuximage-4.4.0-138-generic, initramfs-tools, systemd-sysv, libc-bin... there are updates available, but three months have passed
[14:31] <Seveas> that should be running on the client (though won't be running after the timeout, so try again)
[14:31] <OerHeks> Windy, run: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade#  and you are safe
[14:31] <OerHeks> after that, apt autoremove to clean up kernels
[14:32] <te_x> Seveas: Ah, got it. Yes, looks like the line you posted earlier
[14:32] <Windy> OerHeks: thanks, i'm not trying to update at this point.  i have a bunch of linux VMs on my vmware infrastructure and I don't know if anyone takes care of them.  i'm just in the discovery phase
[14:34] <electroxexual> Hi, how can I change the default keyboard shortcuts in nemo?
[14:34] <electroxexual> I've added 'gtk-can-change-accels = 1' to ~/.gtkrc-2.0.mine but I don't know where exactly accels file is located
[14:37] <Seveas> Windy: I'd say "nobody is", given that updates haven't been applied in at least a quarter
[14:37] <Windy> that's better than i had feared :)
[14:37] <Seveas> hehe
[14:41] <te_x> Seveas: Please don't abandon me now!
[14:44] <Seveas> te_x: I wouldn't, if I had another clue. but sftp works and sshfs is launching sftp correctly. With nothing in the server's logs to help debugging, I'm out of ideas.
[14:45] <te_x> Seveas: Ok :(  Anyway, thanks a lot for your patience :)
[14:45] <Seveas> maybe try tcpdumping on both sides to see where the packets are going
[14:57] <zen_coder> I fail to install
[14:57] <zen_coder> sudo apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends libxcb1-dev:armel
[14:57] <zen_coder> can anybody help me to install it?
[14:58] <leftyfb> zen_coder: start with the version of ubuntu you are running and a pastebin of the error output with the command you ran
[15:01] <zen_coder> leftyfb: ubuntu 17:10 in docker container
[15:01] <zen_coder> sudo apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends libxcb1-dev:armel Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package libxcb1-dev:armel
[15:01] <OerHeks> oh, 17.10 is EOL, dead, upgrade please
[15:02] <leftyfb> !artful | zen_coder
[15:02] <OerHeks> 9 months no updates, bad
[15:05] <owl> i use ubuntu gnome
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> zen_coder: to answer your question more specifically... the package repository isn't available anymore because 17.10 is EOL
[15:10] <blackflow> OerHeks: typical docker use case
[15:11] <leftyfb> then use LTS in those cases
[15:15] <zen_coder> pragmaticenigma: with 18.04 it would be available?
[15:16] <LetterRip> good day, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an older laptop from a liveCD and when I boot from the liveCD they always freeze after getting the gathering entropy for the CRNG
[15:16] <lordcirth__> LetterRip, what Ubuntu version? 32bit or 64bit?
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> !info libxcb1
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> zen_coder: Yes, it's available in 18.04. See ubottu's note
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> !info libxcb1-dev
[15:19] <LetterRip1> lordcirth__, 32 bit and I've tried a variety of versions - including latest
[15:20] <LetterRip1> the laptop is a Sony VAIO ar320-e
[15:21] <LetterRip1> the bios doesn't have any options other than changing boot order
[15:21] <Meliodas> Could someone please help me troubleshoot why ssh is not working for all users? Would be much appreciated.
[15:21] <lordcirth__> Meliodas, what error is shown?
[15:21] <Meliodas> Connection Refused lordcirth__
[15:21] <lordcirth__> Meliodas, for some users and not for others?
[15:21] <dberube> Hello, Does anyone use guest-introspection in 18.04 with VMware NSX? Trying to find the best way to install guest introspection.
[15:22] <Meliodas> all users cannot ssh
[15:22] <lordcirth__> Meliodas, can you ssh from localhost?
[15:22] <Meliodas> i can login via the vps yes
[15:23] <Meliodas> just wont work externally, I think its a ufw problem possibly, but all my ports are set correctly i think
[15:23] <lordcirth__> Meliodas, so, either sshd is set to not allow external connections (not the default), the VPS has a host-based firewall, or your VPS provider is firewalling it
[15:23] <Meliodas> It was working earlier, so i messed something up with the firewall i think
[15:24] <Meliodas> i reset ufw
[15:24] <Meliodas> must have done something
[15:25] <Meliodas> How do i check the external connection settings lordcirth__ ?
[15:27] <OerHeks> dberube, see their docs https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-NSX-Data-Center-for-vSphere/6.4/com.vmware.nsx.admin.doc/GUID-049EF8ED-224C-4CAF-B6E7-1CD063CCD462.html
[15:27] <lordcirth__> Meliodas, 'sudo ufw show added', anything there?
[15:28] <zen_coder> pragmaticenigma: I did now in ubuntu 18.04 "sudo apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends libxcb1-dev:armel"
[15:28] <zen_coder> I get E: Unable to locate package libxcb1-dev:armel
[15:29] <Meliodas> allow 22/tcp, allow 80, allow 443, allow 1337. also about 10 "is world writable" warnings lordcirth__
[15:29] <lordcirth__> Meliodas, 22/tcp is allowed from anywhere to anywhere?
[15:29] <pragmaticenigma> zen_coder: are you trying compile applications? If so, you may find better support in another channel
[15:30] <lordcirth__> zen_coder, https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libxcb1-dev there is no armel version
[15:30] <Meliodas> they are all allow anywhere lordcirth__
[15:30] <pragmaticenigma> zen_coder: You might want to try in #ubuntu-app-devel
[15:30] <lordcirth__> Meliodas, ok. Try 'sudo ufw disable' and see if you can ssh. If not, it's probably the VPS provider
[15:31] <Meliodas> its digital ocean lordcirth__
[15:31] <Meliodas> and it was working earlier, unless somethings changed
[15:32] <LetterRip1> lordcirth__, i found a page that suggests that it might due to "hanging on PCMCIA probing" - "Except SuSE 7.0 and Mandrake 7.x which hung on probing the PCMCIA. Debian (woody) ran well on it as it allowed skipping the PCMCIA probe"
[15:32] <Meliodas> I still get "connection closed" lordcirth__
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> welcome Budgii
[15:45] <Dice> Hello. The following command: "mv "backup-"`date +"%d-%m-%Y"`.tar.gz /var/www/html/hemligzon/backup/"backup-"`date +"%d-%m-%Y"`.tar.gz" gives me the error "mv: failed to access '/var/www/html/hemligzon/backup/backup-20-02-2019.tar.gz': Not a directory" even though it is a directory. What is the problem?
[15:51] <pragmaticenigma> Dice: pastebin the result of the command "ls -l /var/www/html/hemligzon/backup" please
[15:51] <leftyfb> Dice: mv backup-$(date +"%d-%m-%Y).tar.gz /var/www/html/hemligzon/backup/backup-$(date +"%d-%m-%Y").tar.gz
[15:51] <leftyfb> er
[15:51] <leftyfb> Dice: mv backup-$(date +"%d-%m-%Y").tar.gz /var/www/html/hemligzon/backup/backup-$(date +"%d-%m-%Y").tar.gz
[15:51] <Dice> thanks everyone it was fixed
[15:51] <studio-user060> I've started an upgrade of US 16.04 to 18.10, though ran into "no space left on disk" and it terminated with an error. I no longer can launch Thunar or Nemo to free up space as I get a "symbol lookup error" for each. Not finding much in the way of Ubuntu Studio specific advice in this area in regular Ubuntu forums. Is there a way for me to recover from this?  df shows my drive has 0% available
[15:51] <leftyfb> Dice: what was the issue?
[15:52] <studio-user060> US = Ubuntu Studio
[15:52] <Dice> leftyfb: me being mentally challenged. ubuntu was right, it was not a directory
[15:52] <leftyfb> Dice: look at my suggestion above. Much cleaner and easier to ready
[15:52] <leftyfb> read*
[15:52] <Dice> yes thanks =)
[15:53] <Captain_Proton> I have weird problem new vps of Ubuntu 16.04 fresh install, trying to upgrade to 18.04 I get "Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading." https://pastebin.com/GQsJ80A4
[15:53] <Dice> I also have another question: I'm trying this command to backup my files from the ubuntu help page: https://pastebin.com/HHAnLBrg It creates a tar but there's nothing in it. what seems to be the problem?
[15:54] <OerHeks> Captain_Proton, run: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:55] <OerHeks> or get a fresh 18.04.2 image from your vps vendor?
[15:55] <Captain_Proton> OerHeks, Right now they only offer 16.04
[15:56] <dberube> OerHeks: thanks. I followed that article and found that VMware signed the package with the wrong signature. Logging a case with them now.
[15:56] <tomreyn> Dice: some of us don't like this paste service very much. there is paste.ubuntu.com, termbin.com, paste.debian.net.
[15:56] <OerHeks> Captain_Proton, oke, but for a VPS i would stick to lts, 18.04 that is
[15:56] <Dice> tomreyn: ok I will use that. why do you not like pastebin?
[15:56] <OerHeks> dberube, thank you for feedback
[15:57] <skyemoor> I've started an upgrade of US 16.04 to 18.10, though ran into "no space left on disk" and it terminated with an error. I no longer can launch Thunar or Nemo to free up space as I get a "symbol lookup error" for each. . Is there a way for me to recover from this?  df shows my drive has 0% available
[15:57] <Dice> here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KKnN23kwkH/
[15:57] <Dice> this generates a tar.gz with no content
[15:57] <Captain_Proton> OerHeks, yup. 16.04 it keeping back systemd and I can force it to install with dist-upgrade or aptitude
[15:58] <venik212> How can I change the sound output using commands in a batch file?  I want to force the sound into the HDMI with a script-- Pulseaudio, lubuntu 18.10
[16:00] <tomreyn> Dice: different reasons: somewhat heavy ads, tor-unfriendly hosting, privacy invase, non open source code (i think)
[16:00] <OerHeks> Dice, first: line 10 .. (media \ > /media \
[16:01] <OerHeks> typo?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> venik212, why not just change the audio out in pavucontrol in the port dropdown option
[16:01] <Dice> OerHeks: oops thanks I accidentally removed it
[16:02] <Dice> and added a ( apparently
[16:02] <tomreyn> Dice: putting "backup-" in quotes helps not at all, you can just omit those.
[16:02] <OerHeks> Dice,  maybe that is the culprit
[16:02] <venik212> I want to avoid using the dialog every time I plug the PC into-- want to automate it
[16:03] <Dice> OerHeks: it's not unfortunately, I messed that up when trying to find out why it's not putting anything into my tar.gz
[16:03] <tomreyn> line 3 misses a dot before tar.gz
[16:03] <BluesKaj> venik212, it should hold that setting once changed
[16:03] <venik212> I also need help with keyboard layout disappearing from ibus
[16:04] <venik212> but I don't ALWAYS want to use HDMI-- I plug the pc into the TV sometimes, but other times I want to sound to come from the speakers.
[16:05] <CyberGhost78> go into sound settings and select the speaker output for your computer and not the tv
[16:06] <pragmaticenigma> venik212: If you set your sound output to HDMI when the TV is plugged in, Ubuntu should automatically go back to the PC sound output when the HDMI is disconnected
[16:06] <CyberGhost78> oh yeah or that
[16:06] <venik212> But what I want it the other way around-- plug the TV and have the sound autommatically go to the HDMI
[16:07] <BluesKaj> CyberGhost78, he wants to automate the change in output
[16:07] <venik212> I KNOW how to do it from thhe pulseaudio volue control dialog, but want to script it
[16:07] <lordcirth__> LetterRip1, In that case, try adding this to the grub boot line: "pcmcia_rsrc.probe_io=0"
[16:07] <pragmaticenigma> venik212: It should remember that HDMI was the last profile used and restore the sound... Have you not just tried this? and assumed it wasn't going to work?
[16:07] <venik212> yes-- just like CyberGhost has now explained it
[16:09] <tomreyn> venik212: pacmd for scripting pulse audio configs
[16:09] <venik212> when I plug the HDMI cable into the TV, I need to change resolutions, position, etc.  I do that with a script, and I wanted that script to also change the sound output
[16:09] <CyberGhost78> i have to do it manually every time
[16:09] <LetterRip1> lordcirth__, thanks will give it a try
[16:10] <venik212> yes-- I discovered pacmd, but had hoped someone knew the arcane syntax and had done it already
[16:10] <CyberGhost78> i have surround sound so i have to set it to play through my speakers
[16:10] <CyberGhost78> not the tv
[16:10] <CyberGhost78> no clue on that
[16:10] <venik212> I know it is possible, but i am trying to save time by askiing the experts here
[16:10] <CyberGhost78> ahh
[16:11] <venik212> maybe someone could help me with the keyboard layout issue?
[16:11] <CyberGhost78> understandable
[16:12] <venik212> I used ibus preferences to add keyboard layout for another language, but the system forgets it or ignores it
[16:50] <pa> hi
[16:51] <pa> concerning 14.04, soon going out of free support.. I suppose there are paying customers who will get at least security updates
[16:51] <pa> will these updates be available for non-paying customers?
[16:51] <pkp> como consigo cc por aquy
[16:51] <tomreyn> !es | pkp
[16:52] <tomreyn> pa: no, that's how canonical pays the wages of those who do the updates.
[16:52] <pa> i see. so if i keep 14.04 then it's going to be broken, right?
[16:52] <tomreyn> correct
[16:52] <pa> and fixes unavailable unless i pay
[16:53] <pa> how much would that be?
[16:53] <pa> for one machine
[16:53] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to install nvidia-driver-415 on Ubuntu MATE 18.10, but I get this error.  https://pastebin.com/vdLN5msy  I'm told to try `sudo apt --fix-broken install`, but then I get *this* error.  https://pastebin.com/dLH3pAAW  Any tips?
[16:53] <tomreyn> pa: please check the website, talk to canonical, we're just (mostly) volunteers ehre
[16:53] <OerHeks> see the !esm factoid, 100 machines minimum?
[16:53] <OerHeks> !esm
[16:54] <pa> thanks
[16:54] <pa> lol
[16:55] <pa> 150$, minimum order 50 licenses
[16:55] <pa> Please note: $2,500 cart minimum applies.
[16:55] <pa> wow
[16:55] <pa> or
[16:55] <pa> meh
[16:55] <OerHeks> why would one stick to such old release..
[16:55] <tomreyn> maybe they offer smaller deals through resellers.
[16:55] <pa> coz newer ones are all broken
[16:56] <pa> 16.04 keeps waking my drives up for smart polling
[16:56] <pa> the guy who did that refuses to acknowledge the problem let alone fix it
[16:56] <tomreyn> just son't smartmnotools if you don't want them
[16:57] <tomreyn> just don't install smartmnotools if you don't want them
[16:57] <pa> i want them, and it's not smartmontools
[16:57] <pa> it's something else, not sure what though
[16:57] <pa> some claim it's udev
[16:57] <pa> anyway
[16:57] <tomreyn> oh well. maybe a topic for #ubuntu-discuss then
[16:57] <pa> i was hoping in some 20-30$ to keep getting updates
[16:58] <pa> clearly it's not the case :-)
[16:59] <blackflow> pa: not sure what but you know the guy who did that (refuses to ack...)?
[16:59] <blackflow> how does that work
[17:00] <pa> i kinda tracked him down
[17:00] <blackflow> so you know what package is causing it
[17:00] <pa> he asked me to do usb debugging the drive to figure out what's the problem
[17:01] <pa> at which point i could only go so far
[17:01] <pa> wait i have the discussion bookmarked somewhere
[17:03] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to install nvidia-driver-415 on Ubuntu MATE 18.10, but I get this error.  https://pastebin.com/vdLN5msy  I'm told to try `sudo apt --fix-broken install`, but then I get *this* error.  https://pastebin.com/dLH3pAAW  Any tips?
[17:03] <pa> blackflow: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1733068
[17:04] <pa> probable cause: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1351305#c36
[17:04] <pa> (seems there are updates i was unaware of, catching up now)
[17:04] <pa> ah no, no updates in htere
[17:05] <zarif> hi
[17:05] <pa> ofc some redhat guy involved, as usual when things get into s**t w linux
[17:05] <zarif> i am new here
[17:05] <zarif> what is this
[17:06] <blackflow> pa: and also when things get better. they're biggest contributor to the kernel
[17:06] <zarif> hi blackflow
[17:07] <tomreyn> zarif: see the /topic - this is a (moatlya) volunteer run ubuntu support channel.
[17:07] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, did you update after adding the ppa?
[17:07] <tomreyn> *mostly
[17:07] <OerHeks> and was your system up2date?
[17:07] <pa> blackflow: they are the biggest contributor, but i wouldn't say things get better thanks to them.. so many things are crap thanks to them. look at all the freedesktop-related projects and at what level of quality they are..
[17:07] <lordcirth__> pa, regardless, that is offtopic here.
[17:07] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: Yes and yes, but last night I tried *removing* all nVidia-related packages so I could reinstall them.  Didn't go well.
[17:08] <pa> mostly true. Only ontopic thing is the bug that affects ubuntu 16.04 (and i think 18.04, but i will have to test it, and will do)
[17:08] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, it is simple to switch back to nouveau in the driver util, then add the ppa
[17:08] <blackflow> pa: that bug is unconfirmed though, apparently affects only the reporter
[17:08] <pa> probably nobody bothers reproducing it
[17:09] <pa> like nobody cares if their usb drives wake up or not
[17:09] <pa> or how often
[17:09] <blackflow> pa: I have quite the opposite problem, I have to forcibly hdparm them not to spin down (and once they spin down they stay down)
[17:09] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: As of right now I am using the nouveau driver and have the graphics drivers PPA set up.
[17:10] <blackflow> (they stay down until I explicitly access them, that's what I mean)
[17:10] <pa> blackflow: but if you let them spin down, you would probably notice that they spin up again every now and then, when you do not access them
[17:10] <blackflow> pa: no they aren't
[17:10] <pa> blackflow: how long have you monitored them?
[17:10] <pa> in my case they might wake up after one or two hours
[17:10] <pa> then spin down again
[17:11] <blackflow> they're sitting in front of me. I'd very much notice if they spun up by themselves
[17:11] <tomreyn> and *this* prevents you from upgrading?
[17:11] <pa> blackflow: 1804?
[17:11] <blackflow> pa: yea
[17:11] <BlueProtoman> When I try to uninstall the nVidia drivers again, I get the second error I posted (this one https://pastebin.com/dLH3pAAW )
[17:11] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, but i see 7 not upgraded, so it is not up2date...
[17:11] <pa> blackflow: thanks. will find the time to test it and report!
[17:12] <OerHeks> and i stop with pastebin, crap site.
[17:12] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: Those are unrelated packages.
[17:12] <OerHeks> use paste.ubuntu.please
[17:12] <blackflow> I mean I'd gladly mark that bug that it affects me, if it did, but it doesn't.
[17:12] <OerHeks> unrelated? ..? how do you tell?
[17:12] <pa> tomreyn: one of the reasons, yes. Another is a module for asterisk 11. I would have to find asterisk 11 for 18.04
[17:13] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: I don't know, are these related to graphics drivers?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3Vpc6X9pfd/
[17:13] <pa> i also had a couple of kernel patches in 14.04 that are probably not available for newer kernels (namely Skystar-S2 support, linux imq,  nDPI, and something else)
[17:13] <pa> although maybe some might have been ported
[17:14] <blackflow> pa: consider perhaps that the drives are maybe teh cause of it, or cables. take a look at dmesg if there's anything logged about control timeout before the disk wakes up
[17:14] <pa> blackflow: can't be. THey behave as expected on 14.04
[17:14] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, gdm3 perhaps?
[17:15] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: Well, all the same, I can't upgrade them.  I get the same error I already posted.  https://pastebin.com/dLH3pAAW
[17:15] <ioria> BlueProtoman, as i rule, i usually first remove the previous nvidia version ,then i install the new ; i think you got a nvidia-versions conflict
[17:15] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Probably, but how can I get out of it?
[17:16] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  you can try with a  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-340_340.107-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb  , but i'd rather purge them all and restart
[17:16] <BlueProtoman> ioria: You mean purge all nvidia packages and reinstall them?
[17:17] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  can you paste    dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[17:17] <BlueProtoman> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K8vPdX84Nb/
[17:18] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  yeah, it's a mess
[17:18] <BlueProtoman> ioria: How can I un-mess this?
[17:18] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  and you said  'nvidia-415', but i see in the log -340 .... ; can you explain ?
[17:19] <BlueProtoman> ioria: I tried, but failed, to install nvidia-415.  So I tried uninstalling all nvidia packages, but I couldn't do that...I was prompted to reinstall nvidia-340 (and related)
[17:19] <ioria> i see
[17:20] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  let's see is apt still works;   sudo apt purge nvidia-331
[17:20] <ioria> *if
[17:21] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  and i's replace bumblebee with prime
[17:22] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Nope.  https://pastebin.com/bX4Yz5sr
[17:22] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  yep,  and if you run  apt --fix-broken install
[17:22] <BlueProtoman> ioria: I posted that earlier https://pastebin.com/dLH3pAAW
[17:23] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-340_340.107-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[17:25] <BlueProtoman> ioria: https://pastebin.com/0x33tXar
[17:26] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   looks ok....   apt --fix-broken install
[17:31] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Looks good to me.  https://pastebin.com/0mnzvuYt  What next?
[17:32] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   mmm 1 not fully installed; paste again  dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[17:33] <BlueProtoman> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XJd3mYvVpv/
[17:34] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  sudo apt purge nvidia-dkms-396
[17:34] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Okay.  https://pastebin.com/YgzSARbT
[17:35] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  sudo apt purge nvidia-compute-utils-396
[17:37] <BlueProtoman> ioria: So far so good.  https://pastebin.com/EYSnEeMQ
[17:37] <pkp> alguém sabe como configurar isso pra o português?
[17:37] <tomreyn> !pt | pkp
[17:38] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  sudo apt autoremove --purge
[17:39] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Looking okay.  https://pastebin.com/eC8bsm1f
[17:41] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  ok,now i'd go with purging all that 340-384-396 packages; autoremove; and try 415 from ppa if your system supports it
[17:43] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Thank you so, so much.  I will let you know how it goes.
[17:43] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  sudo apt purge nvidia-331 nvidia-384 bumblebee-nvidia
[17:44] <BlueProtoman> Too late.  Already ran apt purge nvidia*
[17:44] <ioria> ok
[17:44] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  you need also purge libnvidia*
[17:44] <BlueProtoman> Doing that now
[17:45] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  after that paste again  dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[17:46] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Just one thing.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/96VYnfH7kZ/
[17:46] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   check if you have   a xorg.conf somewhere;  /etc/X11 probably
[17:47] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[17:48] <BlueProtoman> ioria: I do have /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, and it has 12 files
[17:48] <BlueProtoman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/354QcshKMr/
[17:49] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   it's ok; now   ls  /etc/modprobe.d/
[17:49] <BlueProtoman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kQR7CTnt5H/ (Note: I have uninstalled the nvidia-3xx packages, but not yet installed nvidia-415.)
[17:50] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:51] <BlueProtoman> These packages were upgraded: gdm3 gir1.2-gdm-1.0 kmod libgdm1 libkmod2 libretro-core-info retroarch
[17:52] <BlueProtoman> Anything else, or is it safe to pull the trigger and install nvidia 415?
[17:52] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   go go ahead
[17:52] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   i mean; upgrade the system first
[17:53] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Yeah, did that.  Pulling the trigger, will report back
[17:53] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   wait; i suggest to reboot first
[17:53] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Before, or after I install nvidia 415?
[17:53] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  reboot now
[17:53] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Okay.  One sec.
[17:57] <BlueProtoman0> ioria: Reboot was uneventful, gonna install nvidia-driver-415 momentarily
[17:58] <BlueProtoman0> Trigger has been pulled, installing it now
[17:59] <ioria> BlueProtoman, can you paste ubuntu-drivers list
[18:01] <BlueProtoman> ioria: https://pastebin.com/50TLTuA0
[18:02] <ioria> BlueProtoman, ok
[18:02] <BlueProtoman> ioria: The installation of nvidia-driver-415 was a success.  Should I reboot now?
[18:02] <amosbird> Hmm, what's this ubuntu-toolchain-r-test
[18:02] <ioria> BlueProtoman, i guess so
[18:04] <OerHeks> amosbird, 'the' ppa for newer building libraries, use at your own risc
[18:05] <Tatovich> This is the ubuntu support channel?
[18:06] <BluesKaj> Tatovich,, it sure is
[18:06] <tomreyn> Tatovich: the /topic states so, so probably yes
[18:06] <rneese> hey guys how to o about getting a pkg updated where to push the request
[18:07] <tomreyn> rneese: "depends" (TM)
[18:07] <lordcirth__> rneese, what package?
[18:07] <OerHeks> !sru | rneese
[18:07] <Tatovich> hey guys, Im'running into some monitor problems. I've connected a second monitor through hdmi cable and Ubuntu recognizes it but it's black on my end. I'm using ubuntu 18.04.2 and Intel integrated graphics
[18:08] <tomreyn> rneese: if it's a universe package synced form debian, you could file the bug there directly, otherwise it should go on luanchpad via "ubuntu-bug" (see !bug)
[18:08] <Tatovich> I've tried changing resolutions and hertz, tried changing settings on my monitor itself
[18:09] <Tatovich> hdmi cable is working fine and worked, even appears to work when restarting the pc for a few seconds, until I enter into to the login section
[18:09] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Okay, tangential problem.  My package problems are resolved, and I can still use my computer.  However, my nVidia drivers are not active; the Intel GPU is being used instead.  (Forgot to mention, I'm on a laptop with two GPUs muxed by Optimus)
[18:10] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   paste  sudo lshw -c Video
[18:11] <BlueProtoman> ioria: https://pastebin.com/3MC6q0js
[18:11] <tomreyn> Tatovich: have you tried a !HWE kernel (4.18), or if you're using that, have you tried the GA (4.15) one?
[18:12] <tomreyn> Tatovich: also, is the system fully up to date, and have you rebooted since that is the fact?
[18:12] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'
[18:12] <Tatovich> I've updated the system and restarted it just a couple of minutes ago
[18:12] <BlueProtoman> ioria: https://pastebin.com/ZXq45AN6
[18:13] <tomreyn> Tatovich: okay, back to the kernel question then
[18:13] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   secureboot enabled ?
[18:13] <BlueProtoman> ioria: I don't know, how can I tell?
[18:13] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  mokutil --sb-state
[18:13] <Tatovich> I'm kinda new when it comes to kernel, what should I exactly do? Do I have to check my kernel info?
[18:13] <BlueProtoman> Also: `glxinfo | grep Vendor` returns `Vendor: Intel Open Source Technology Center (0x8086)`
[18:13] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  mokutil --sb-state
[18:14] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Don't have it, which package is it?
[18:14] <rneese> !bug
[18:14] <tomreyn> Tatovich: what's the output of:       nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline;)
[18:14] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  mokutil
[18:15] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  it 's installed by default
[18:15] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Not for me.  Managed to install it, though.  Just one line of output: `EFI variables are not supported on this system`
[18:16] <Tatovich> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/8hd0
[18:16] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[18:16] <BlueProtoman> ioria: BIOS
[18:17] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  ok no SB i guess; paste   /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:18] <tomreyn> Tatovich: run this: sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04
[18:19] <BlueProtoman> ioria: https://hastebin.com/hosahosomo.makefile
[18:19] <tomreyn> Tatovich: you'll get an updated kernel and X, will need to reboot again to apply the changes.
[18:19] <BlueProtoman> ioria: In case it's relevant, right now my laptop is plugged into a VGA monitor, used alongside its built-in screen
[18:20] <Tatovich> tomreyn:  thanks, will check that out
[18:20] <tomreyn> !hwe | Tatovich
[18:22] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  please paste 'lsmod'
[18:22] <BlueProtoman> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mfKyHGckR8/
[18:23] <ioria> BlueProtoman, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[18:23] <BlueProtoman> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/brwdPVXqsF/
[18:24] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  can you start  nvidia-settings from the gui search box ?
[18:25] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Yes.  It tells me that my nVidia GPU is enabled.  That's about it.
[18:25] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  can you switch ?
[18:26] <BlueProtoman> ioria: I can try.  I will switch to the Intel chip.  One sec
[18:26] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  no , you switch to nvidia ...
[18:27] <BlueProtoman> ioria: The GUI tells me that I'm already on the nVidia chip.
[18:28] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  xrandr --listproviders
[18:28] <SimonNL> * BlueProtoman has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[18:29] <ioria> i see, tx
[18:30] <SimonNL> You're welcome
[18:31] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   xrandr --listproviders
[18:32] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Success!!  `nvidia-smi` now returns success, and glxinfo now lists nVidia as the graphics chip
[18:32] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   xrandr --listproviders
[18:32] <ioria> i don't get this
[18:32] <BlueProtoman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TjDD7CF5sJ/
[18:33] <stashb0x> does anyone know how to change the from address in the sendmail config? I have a webpage that sends anon emails this seems to work however the from address gets blocked by Exchange
[18:33] <ioria> BlueProtoman,   did yo udisable intel in bios ?
[18:33] <BlueProtoman> ioria: Thank you so, so much for your patience.
[18:33] <stashb0x> using Centos and phpmailer and Apache
[18:33] <BlueProtoman> ioria: No, I did not touch my BIOS.  I don't even think I can disable the Intel chip.
[18:34] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  please  paste   /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:35] <BlueProtoman> ioria: https://hastebin.com/unicewigus.txt
[18:35] <BlueProtoman> Is this for your own curiosity?
[18:36] <ioria> BlueProtoman,  no, it was because the first xorg.0.log you pasted was unreal ....
[18:36] <BlueProtoman> ioria: In what way?
[18:37] <ioria> BlueProtoman, there was no trace of nvidia (or nouveao)  or errors
[18:38] <BlueProtoman> ioria: I'm as confused as you are, especially because everything works now (in between the two Xorg logs, I rebooted).
[18:38] <ioria> BlueProtoman, ok, good job
[18:39] <BlueProtoman> ioria: No, you.  I'm currently making a game, with the intent to release it commercially.  When I release it, I will give you a free copy, as a token of my gratitude.
[18:39] <ioria> BlueProtoman, thank you ; o problem
[18:39] <ioria> *no
[18:56] <lawltoad> murthy, phazon, lol a reinstall worked :/. I must have messed up the UEFI secure boot stuff. This is my first machine without a traditional BIOS
[19:09] <pkp> como faço pra mudar o idioma para português
[19:11] <up2late> @pkp: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/session-language.html.en
[19:11] <up2late> Also, o livro esta sobre a mesa.
[19:13] <cek> There's an util in rhel called update-ca-trust that does the thing both for openssl and nss. I managed to get my CA imported/trusted via update-ca-certificates, but firefox,chrome are using nss and showing no trust
[19:13] <cek> so, How do I import my CA cert?
[19:16] <pragmaticenigma> cek: Firefox (and I think Google Chrome on linux) bring their own CA stores with them. You will have to consult the documentation to find out or reach out in those communities for help.
[19:16] <cek> that's incorrect
[19:17] <stilyan> hi, want to install squid proxy from source and start/stop/reload it via /sbin/service
[19:17] <pragmaticenigma> cek: If you're certain i'm incorrect, then ask yourself why it's not working.
[19:18] <stilyan> can someone tell how to make it work with service ?
[19:19] <pragmaticenigma> stilyan: This channel doesn't support compiling and running compiled code. Focus is on the pre-made pacakges provided through apt and the software center. For help with compiling, search for squid forums and irc developer chats
[19:19] <stilyan> they wack support :/
[19:20] <stilyan> in their channel .. and this is kind of general question
[19:20] <stilyan> but ok
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> stilyan: If you can
[19:39] <thibaud> Bonsoir, besoin d'un aide pour Ubuntu, quelqu’un de present ?
[19:40] <Bashing-om> !fr | thibaud
[19:49] <urxtnw> Hello, I am curious, how come Windows or even my android phone can automatically connect to let's say my university network, yet on Ubuntu, I have to know all this detailed information, i.e. whether it's tunneled TLS, WPA2 Enterprise (this is usually a good guess), authentification PAP or something else, etc.
[19:52] <pavlos> urxtnw: usually, I click on available networks, then password, then connect.
[19:59] <mra90> do you guys use m4 scripts?
[20:00] <ioria> they still exist ?
[20:00] <SwedeMike> mra90: as little as possible.
[20:00] <ioria> on sendmail,iirc
[20:00] <pragmaticenigma> mra90: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[20:01] <mra90> ok I came accross them and wonder if they are still used and for what they used them
[20:01] <mra90> pragmaticenigma: not as for now I guess
[20:02] <mra90> however I wonder if I can find source code for my BIOS?
[20:02] <ioria> !info m4
[20:03] <pragmaticenigma> mra90: Finding the source code for your computer's BIOS is something you'll have to search the web for. Most BIOS firmwares are closed source however
[20:04] <mra90> pragmaticenigma: I have an up2 intel board, and try to find source code for its bios
[20:04] <mra90> quick google of the subject returned nothing but binaries...
[20:06] <pragmaticenigma> mra90: This really isn't the best channel for that topic. You can try using Alis to find a better channel.
[20:06] <pragmaticenigma> !alis | mra90
[20:06] <pragmaticenigma> mra90: Another place to start might be in the #intel channel
[20:08] <mra90> pragmaticenigma: yes, thanks ;)
[20:40] <jamie_1> hey, im trying to fully disable onscreen keyboard
[20:40] <jamie_1> any know info on how to? i have gone into the settings and disabled it and it still shows up
[20:41] <lordcirth__> jamie_1, what triggers it to come up?
[20:46] <jamie_1> anyone have any links on how to disable the onscreen keyboard?
[20:47] <lordcirth__> !patience
[20:47] <jamie_1> sorry i was having network issues and had to close and reopen my chat, didnt know if it sent or not
[20:47] <OerHeks> jamie_1, open systemsettings > Universal access
[20:48] <OerHeks> if that happens, i guess you are on a tablet?
[20:53] <jamie_1> OerHeks: no im on a 2 in 1 and i have it dissabled there and it still showing up
[20:54] <OerHeks> it 'was' an issue before 18.04  caribou service  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1723857
[20:54] <jamie_1> OerHeks: im on 18.04 and still expirencing the issue
[20:55] <jamie_1> i installed the block caribou extention
[20:55] <jamie_1> and issue went away
[20:56] <OerHeks> oke, file a new bugreport then, and mention regression and bug/1723857
[21:26] <clobato> hi
[21:27] <JimBuntu> Hello clobato , if you have an issue please post it, in as few lines as possible and someone will probably help you
[21:30] <clobato> thanks JimiBuntu
[21:30] <clobato> :)
[21:33] <clobato> one question, where is the best method to clone hdd to ssd, if the ssd is low capacity?
[21:33] <clobato> sorry for my english
[21:33] <clobato> :)
[21:33] <lordcirth__> clobato, are you sure you need to clone it? Reinstalling isn't too hard.
[21:34] <clobato> it's true, but i need clone all the partitions
[21:34] <lordcirth__> clobato, this guide seems reasonable: https://www.pcsuggest.com/hdd-to-ssd-cloning-linux/
[21:35] <lordcirth__> alternatively, there's clonezilla
[21:37] <clobato> i try it tomorrow, if i have problems i try to contact with you (lordcirth__)
[21:37] <lordcirth__> clobato, just ask the channel in general, don't rely on any one person being around :)
[21:38] <jeremy31> clobata, the partitions on the HDD will need to be shrunk so that they will fit on a smaller drive
[21:38] <clobato> i now :)
[21:38] <clobato> but i try :)
[21:38] <clobato> many thanks lordcirth__
[21:39] <lordcirth__> Clonezilla will do the shrink, as long as you have enough free space
[21:42] <Absolute0> How do I add this ppa: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+source/openssh ?
[21:42] <Absolute0>  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:disco
[21:42] <Absolute0> ?
[21:43] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: what are you trying to do exactly?
[21:43] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: that is to say, what are you trying to accomplish or obtain?
[21:43] <Absolute0> I want to install openssh  1:7.9p1-6 found here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh
[21:43] <Absolute0> from The Disco Dingo (active development)
[21:44] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: the question then is "why" ?
[21:44] <Absolute0> technical issues
[21:44] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: what version of Ubuntu are you running now?
[21:44] <Absolute0> cosmic
[21:44] <OerHeks> !mix
[21:44] <leftyfb> Absolute0: technical issues?
[21:44] <Absolute0> it's not in backports
[21:44] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: By doing that, you're only going to make your system have more techincal issues
[21:44] <leftyfb> Absolute0: what sort of technical issues? And do you have the bug report that says it's fixed in the disco version?
[21:45] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: What isn't working with openssh on Cosmic?
[21:45] <OerHeks> oh, that issue again
[21:45] <leftyfb> OerHeks: ?
[21:45] <Absolute0> Nothing is broken. I need to upgrade the version. Why am I not allowed to download the latest version?
[21:46] <Absolute0> Why should the distro prevent me from installing the latest version?
[21:46] <leftyfb> Absolute0: is nothing is broken, then why do you need to upgrade the version?
[21:46] <leftyfb> is/if
[21:46] <Absolute0> That's irrelevant.
[21:46] <leftyfb> Absolute0: it's 100% relevant
[21:46] <leftyfb> Absolute0: why do you think you need to upgrade?
[21:46] <Absolute0> That's what the client is requesting..
[21:46] <Gerowen> Is there a way to see how much VRAM is currently in use?
[21:46] <leftyfb> why?
[21:46] <Absolute0> I don't think. It just needs to get done.
[21:47] <leftyfb> Absolute0: ok, good luck. Let us know if you come up with a legitimate reason to do so.
[21:47] <Absolute0> PCI Compliance. But someone on here will tell me that's not an excuse.
[21:47] <leftyfb> nope
[21:48] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: It's not, as I have to work in the same industry.
[21:48] <leftyfb> running version 1:7.9p1-6 of openssh from the development version of ubuntu is does not fall in PCI compliance
[21:48] <Absolute0> I am using a service that won't let me use them until I upgrade my stupid openssh to 7.8 or older.
[21:48] <leftyfb> Absolute0: which service?
[21:48] <Absolute0> That's that my hands are tied. If it's incorrect that's their issue.
[21:49] <Absolute0> A Credit Card processing gateway./
[21:49] <leftyfb> yeah, no
[21:49] <Absolute0> ok whatever. Let me google for something more useful.
[21:49] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: I know of no processing gateways that can tell the difference between OpenSSH versions. What you might have is the need to configure your OpenSSH client session to use a specific encryption algorithm
[21:50] <leftyfb> Absolute0: I'd be curious as to real reason you want the latest version.
[21:50] <Absolute0> https://dpaste.de/kLnc
[21:51] <Absolute0> Maybe I can just make openssh output that it's 7.9
[21:52] <leftyfb> Absolute0: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-15473.html
[21:52] <leftyfb> Absolute0: All versions supported of ubuntu are fixed
[21:52] <Absolute0> You don't need to convince me anything.
[21:53] <OerHeks> Absolute0, you only look at the numbering, not the patches in the changelog?
[21:53] <Absolute0> As I said. For technical reasons I need to update the openssh version. So that I can pass their silly test.
[21:53] <leftyfb> Absolute0: That vulnerability has been patched in all supported versions of ubuntu. You don't need 7.8+ to be patched for it
[21:53] <Absolute0> I don't look at anything.
[21:53] <Absolute0> I need to pass a test.
[21:55] <leftyfb> Absolute0: I'd like to take this test. Which company?
[21:56] <Absolute0> pciapply.com
[21:56] <Absolute0> It won't work. You need to create an account with the gateway and then they give you an account within their system.
[21:57] <Absolute0> https://www.pciapply.com/pci_fi_login.aspx
[21:57] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: The question weren't for the test site... the question was for the company requiring this test... who is the payment gateway provider
[22:00] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: Here's something to try, spin up a Disco instance of Ubuntu and run the same test. If you still fail said test, then you know that the sought out version isn't the problem, and that you have something else wrong in your configuration/hardening
[22:01] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: If it solves the problem. Then I would suggest you find a way to run the Disco instance as an intermediary between your application and your payment gateway
[22:01] <Absolute0> The server is running on ubuntu.
[22:02] <pragmaticenigma> We've already established you are running on Ubuntu, I do not see the purpose of stating that
[22:04] <tete_> hi, i would like to know if i can upgrade to disco and use the ppa from kodi which has only releases for cosmic
[22:05] <lotuspsychje> tete_: disco support in #ubuntu+1 please
[22:06] <OerHeks> tete_, basicly: no? you *could try* to install the debs manually
[22:06] <Absolute0> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) doesn't say "not affected".
[22:06] <oft_gegong> I've got some sad news. Ubuntu isn't working with nvidia's GTX 1050 mobile (ie. laptop) cards on laptops
[22:06] <lotuspsychje> oft_gegong: dont make general statements like that please
[22:06] <oft_gegong> k
[22:06] <oft_gegong> lol
[22:07] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: You discredit yourself when talking about needing to meet PCI compliance, yet aren't running on an LTS release of Ubuntu. PCI Compliance is all about making sure you are running on stable, patched, and hardened systems. Move down to 18.04 which is also LTS release.
[22:07] <Absolute0> I upgradred today.
[22:07] <Absolute0> But it's still 7.7
[22:08] <OerHeks> Absolute0, does 'ssh -Q sig' reply?
[22:08] <Absolute0> Unsupported query "sig"
[22:08] <studde> Any idea why sounds play on fire fox but not on brave browser?
[22:08] <pragmaticenigma> Absolute0: I'm sorry, I'm done trying to help. You aren't listening/reading what we're saying. The summary is... you can't cherry pick from different versions of Ubuntu. You will be left with a vulnerable system and one that is highly unstable
[22:08] <lotuspsychje> oft_gegong: we have a lot of users on gtx cards using the ubuntu graphics ppa
[22:12] <Absolute0> pragmaticenigma: which part was I not listening to?
[22:12] <Absolute0> What does DNE mean?
[22:12] <oft_gegong> Does Not Exist
[22:14] <leftyfb> Absolute0: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-15473.html
[22:14] <leftyfb> The patch for 16.04 has been released
[22:14] <leftyfb> version 1:7.2p2-4ubuntu2.6
[22:15] <Absolute0> Do I need to do anything to get it patched or apt update && apt upgrade will do the trick?
[22:16] <Absolute0> I already upgrade to cosmic, but just asking out of curiosity. My linode came installed with 16.04
[22:16] <leftyfb> Absolute0: In ubuntu 16.04, if you are running anything newer than 1:7.2p2-4ubuntu2.6 then you are patched
[22:17] <leftyfb> Absolute0: In the case of Ubuntu 16.04, the latest is 1:7.2p2-4ubuntu2.7
[22:17] <Absolute0> "This issue only affected Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. (CVE-2016-10708)"
[22:17]  * leftyfb sigh
[22:18] <Absolute0> Isn't it more stable to just have the latest versions of all programs at all times?
[22:18] <jcdutton> leftyfb, what is the problem?  All those CVEs are already released and distributed
[22:18] <Absolute0> leftyfb: yes I understand. the latest package on 16.04 is not affected.
[22:18] <jcdutton> apt-get changelog openssh-server      lists them as fixed
[22:18] <leftyfb> Absolute0: so what is your issue then? You are patched.
[22:18] <Absolute0> I don't have an issue.
[22:20] <leftyfb> Absolute0: so let me ask you. Did your payment gateway test fail when run against version 1:7.2p2-4ubuntu2.7 running on Ubuntu 16.04?
[22:20] <Absolute0> Yes.
[22:21] <leftyfb> Then it is a flawed test and should be brought up with them.
[22:21] <Absolute0> It takes 24-48 hours between tests so the new test is pending.
[22:21] <Absolute0> I forwarded the ubuntu release notes page above to them.
[22:21] <Absolute0> is apt-get now just apt?
[22:22] <leftyfb> Absolute0: https://itsfoss.com/apt-vs-apt-get-difference/
[22:22] <lawltoad> Hi! What's everyones IRC client of choice? I've been using xchat but I it feels pretty bare bones? do I need to explore plugins?
[22:22] <leftyfb> !ot | lawltoad
[22:24] <lawltoad> leftyfb: Ah, my mistake.
[22:27] <Absolute0> it's foss is a ubuntu thing?
[22:27] <lawltoad> I used to use uubntu way back when it was gnome2 + metacity, and I know things were gnome3 + compiz + unity for a while. I just installed Bionic after being away form uubntu for a few years, whats the UI/dispaly stack made of.
[22:28] <Absolute0> ubottu: try irssi
[22:28] <Absolute0> leftyfb: ^^
[22:28] <Absolute0> lawltoad: ^^
[22:28] <iCherry> Absolute0, "free open source software" not just ubuntu
[22:28] <Bigkilani> hey guys
[22:29] <Bigkilani> its my first time using IRC chat
[22:29] <leftyfb> !support | Bigkilani
[22:30] <Bigkilani> Are there rules in this chatroom
[22:30] <Bigkilani> ?
[22:30] <leftyfb> Bigkilani: it's a support channel. Feel free to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:30] <Bigkilani> Oh okay lefty, im just exploring around:)
[22:54] <tomreyn> lawltoad: gnome-shell. see also !releasenotes
[22:54] <ironpillow> Hi all, when using htop I am see that /sbin/init is using around 40%-60% cpu. I am access the ubuntu box via ssh. Any advice? a member here told me look at dmesg, but I am not sure what I am looking for
[22:54] <ironpillow> tomreyn: oh hey! You asked me to look at dmesg about the issue I am having. Can you point to what I am looking for? Thanks!
[22:55] <tomreyn> !latest | Absolute0: just in case this is something you're not already aware of
[22:57] <tomreyn> ironpillow: i was wondering whether you maybe have repeating messages to the bottom of dmesg, suggesting something is caught in a loop, or causing high I/O load. also, dmesg may show some critical errors or warning which may hint at what is going wrong there.
[22:58] <tomreyn> ironpillow: situations like this might be triggered by suspend + resume, does this only happen after the system returns from suspend?
[22:59] <tomreyn> ironpillow: if you like share dmesg with us (and tell us whether the problem currently occurs). you can post it online by running: dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:59] <ironpillow> tomreyn: after the network interfaces are up, the only thing that repeats is this: perf: interrupt took too long (6226 > 6222), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 32000. This happens are the system is restarted, not suspended.
[22:59] <ironpillow> yeah will do share the current dmesg as the issue is happening right now.
[23:00] <tomreyn> so it does not always happen, but just sometimes? more details on this would also help.
[23:04] <pi0> is there a ubuntu app that allows you to modify pdf's like actually draw notes and text
[23:05] <ironpillow> tomreyn: sorry I can't share dmesg :( the problem is currently occurring and I am watching htop right now. Let me try and restart the machine one more time.
[23:05] <ironpillow> I saved the old dmesg for reference.
[23:09] <mostym> Hi all.  I for whatever reason or another cannot ping the .50 ip address from this configuration https://pastebin.com/nkeZk2LC.  Is there anything wrong with it?
[23:10] <tomreyn> ironpillow: ok. and you couldn't share it because the system was so slow then that you couldn't runthe commands to post the log? or are there other reasons?
[23:10] <tomreyn> mostym: we prefer you using the pastebin on the topic
[23:11] <mostym> Oh, ubuntu's?
[23:11] <mostym> Sorry about that.
[23:11] <mostym> Here's the updated paste, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JTtFnTrKTM/
[23:12] <mostym> I can ping the .51 but not the .50
[23:13] <tomreyn> mostym: thnaks. why do you have overlapping ip address ranges assigned to these two interfaces?
[23:14] <mostym> tomreyn: Because I wanted to have each interface to have different ips
[23:14] <tomreyn> so they overlap because you want them to be different? i can't follow this statement.
[23:15] <mostym> Are you saying that I can't have two different ips on the same subnet?
[23:15] <tomreyn> <IP_ADDRESS>/25 is <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>/25 is <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:16] <tomreyn> actually ignore this, sorry.
[23:17] <mostym> My goal is to have nginx listen on .50 and netdata on the .51
[23:17] <tomreyn> i don't think i can answer your question, i'm afraid. you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[23:18] <mostym> No problem.  thanks for looking :D
[23:18] <tomreyn> maybe post "networkctl status" output as well
[23:19] <ironpillow> tomreyn: system doesn't have internet. I changed the setup so I could ssh into it and copy the dmesg, here it is: https://gist.github.com/ironpillow/4dcb4a2b14fadc1d537098454f9eb863
[23:30] <tomreyn> ironpillow: looking now (been afk for a bit), this may take another 15 minutes
[23:30] <ironpillow> tomreyn: no worries. thanks!
[23:36] <tomreyn> ironpillow: please install the pending updates. if this issue still applies then, we can repeat the dmesg review.
[23:39] <tomreyn> i understand this system is airgapped, but when you run into such issues, patching it should be the first thing you do.
[23:47] <princessmarli> "SINGLE HANDEDEDLY THE GREATEST VIDEO ON YOUTUBE. I wake up in morning hoping that over night you channel has grown a thousand fold. Youre a beautiful fearless soul. Bless you John Rose." Link: https://youtu.be/sgNvvUUKefs
[23:48] <princessmarli> An absolutely awesome video John:-)
[23:48] <tomreyn> princessmarli: go away
[23:48] <princessmarli> People cannot believe to understand how beautiful the human experience could be for all if we woke up and stopped this system of oppression & control.
[23:48] <tomreyn> !ops | princessmarli
[23:58] <ironpillow> tomreyn: got it
[23:59] <ironpillow> I will install them and post dmesg if the problem persists.