[14:03] <xu-help14w> Hi I have a question about the start-up process of Xubuntu
[14:10] <diogenes_> !ask
[14:53] <anotheryou> Hi, I'm a bit new to linux still. Any way I could get the fix for this here earlier than with the next xubuntu release in ~oktober? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151
[14:55] <anotheryou> In general, is there any way I should keep xubuntu updated between releases?
[14:57] <diogenes_> !upgrade
[15:00] <anotheryou> thanks diogenes_ . I'm up to date there :). Still would love to see this bug gone.
[15:01] <miu5> Hi, im having a bit of an issue the passed 2 months or so.  Everytime i update my packages via apt-get, after that i notice that all my file associations are fucked.  I have to then manually go and re-associate mp4's to open up with a specific player, pdf's to open up with a specific pdf reader, and well, you can see where im going with this...  Can anyone tell me what is causing the file disassociation everytime i update? Xubuntu 18.04
[17:11] <christophergray> miu5: update-desktop-database -v /usr/share/applications /usr/local/share/applications
[17:21] <miu5> christophergray, if i try that - is it going to change any commands or settings *within* some of the "app.desktop" files here /usr/share/applications/ ?
[17:23] <christophergray> miu5: it will just create new mimeinfo.cache files in those two directories
[17:24] <christophergray> from the info in the .desktop files
[17:24] <miu5> christophergray, ok, so is there a possibility that the mime.cache is corrupt?
[17:24] <miu5> is that why its doing this all the time?
[17:26] <christophergray> maybe there's something wrong with your XDG-DATA-DIRS so it is not finding your .desktop files on upgrade
[17:28] <christophergray> most of your .desktop files are probably in those two directories, so I suggested specify them instead of use default for update-desktop-database
[17:28] <diogenes_> miu5, is 'save session' enabled?
[17:31] <miu5> diogenes_, if you are asking if the "Automatically save session on logout" checkbox is checked in the session & startup UI, its not.  Is that what you were referring to?
[17:33] <diogenes_> that and also settings editor > xfce4-session > SaveOnExit must be disabled.
[17:36] <miu5> diogenes_, yes that one's also disabled.
[17:38] <diogenes_> also check the logs .xce4-session.verbose-log present. and .xsession-errors
[17:38] <diogenes_> .xfce4-session.verbose-log*
[18:12] <lisbeths> My webcam is not detected
[18:13] <diogenes_> lisbeths, how do you know? builtin? usb? more info please.
[18:13] <lisbeths> It is builtin to my laptop monitor
[18:14] <lisbeths> I know because chrome says no camera detected and so does the cheese selfie app
[18:14] <lisbeths> Sometimes it works and sometimes like now it does not detect. I have rebooted.
[18:15] <diogenes_> sudo apt install guvcview
[18:15] <diogenes_> see if it's detected there.
[18:17] <lisbeths> Guvcview error no device found
[18:18] <diogenes_> lisbeths, has it worked after system installation?
[18:19] <lisbeths> Yes. let me actually try in a live environment.
[18:19] <lisbeths> I will return
[18:21] <lisbeths> I did a hard reboot and booted to my usb but my usb was borked so it booted into grub. Then I rebooted again into my hard disc to go and redownload the iso. Now the webcam works.
[18:22] <lisbeths> I didn't jiggle the laptop monitor at all it is definitely a software issue, but now I have to reproduce it :(
[18:22] <diogenes_> lisbeths, i wouldn't say "definitely".
[18:22] <lisbeths> I mean not a connectivity issue in the wiring
[18:23] <lisbeths> cause I did burn the back of this laptop on a stove
[18:23] <lisbeths> but I hadn't adjusted the monitor at all during that reboot so I am fairly certain that it was forcing it to fully reboot the bios that had done it
[18:24] <lisbeths> the thinkpad forums say to press fn + f6 for this model to enable the camera however they say that opens up a "menu" but that "menu" is for windows not for linux
[18:24] <lisbeths> so I think perhaps there is some keybind I had hit on accident which had caused the camera to be disabled by the hardware itself
[18:24] <diogenes_> nobody can tell for sure what the problem is unless a thorough diagnose will be made.
[18:24] <lisbeths> yeah... well hopefully this "fix" of a super hard reboot is reproducable
[18:25] <lisbeths> I cant test it anymore till the webcam fails again and thats rare
[18:26] <lisbeths> oh well there's nothing left to do. Thank you for the help.
[18:28] <diogenes_> IRC client for Emacs heh.
[19:07] <miu5> christophergray, i tried that command, but i get an error:  Could not create cache file in "/usr/local/share/applications": Error opening directory ?/usr/local/share/applications?: No such file or directory
[19:08] <miu5> i remember i used to have /usr/local/share/applications,  but now im a bit confused as to why that folder is missing..
[19:09] <miu5> christophergray, am i supposed to run update-desktop-database with sudo ?
[19:10] <miu5> also this error:   Could not create cache file in "/usr/share/applications": Permission denied
[19:12] <christophergray> miu5: don't worry about the /usr/local/share/applications, it means you didn't install stuff from source
[19:13] <christophergray> miu5: try 'sudo update-desktop-database -v'
[19:16] <miu5> christophergray, it says lacks MimeType key for each one
[19:18] <christophergray> I get the same thing here
[19:25] <miu5> so does this seem like a bug though?
[19:25] <christophergray> do you get a list to choose from if you do mimeopen -a /usr/share/alsa/utils.sh
[19:26] <christophergray> I get a list of 17 apps
[19:52] <miu5> christophergray, i get the following:
[19:52] <miu5> WARNING: You don't seem to have any mimeinfo.cache files.
[19:52] <miu5> Try running the update-desktop-database command. If you
[19:52] <miu5> don't have this command you should install the
[19:52] <miu5> desktop-file-utils package. This package is available from
[19:52] <miu5> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/desktop-file-utils/
[19:52] <miu5> Please choose an application
[19:54] <miu5> sorry, here: https://bpa.st/raw/J45A
[20:56] <christophergray> miu5: try it again after 'sudo update-desktop-database /usr/share/applications'
[20:57] <christophergray> or better, ls -l /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache, or locate mimeinfo.cache
[20:59] <christophergray> print $XDG_DATA_DIRS/applications
[21:08] <miu5> christophergray, doing ls -l cmd it found it -rw------- 1 root root Aug 28 18:58 /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
[21:09] <miu5> and when you said i should try it again after 'sudo update-desktop-database /usr/share/applications',   i did, and i got the same result. as in the link i sent you
[21:09] <christophergray> mine has -rw-r--r-- permissions
[21:12] <christophergray> looks like you need to change the permissions to 644
[21:16] <christophergray> miu5: sudo chmod a+r /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
[21:30] <christophergray> ls -l /usr/share/ | grep applications
[21:31] <christophergray> should show drwxr-xr-x    2 root root  12288 Aug 28 13:17 applications/
[21:36] <christophergray> apt policy desktop-file-utils  should show  *** 0.23-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> 500  on xubuntu 18.04
[21:38] <Bashing-om> !info desktop-file-utils bionic
[21:55] <xu-help52w> evening
[21:55] <xu-help52w> im newbie switch from windows to linux and encountered a problem
[21:56] <xu-help52w> id like to stream from laptop to tv like i did on windows,is there an easy way to do this?
[22:02] <miu5> christophergray, do you know what wouldve changed my permissions?
[23:10] <christophergray> could have been the installer for the output of this command: ls -c /usr/share/applications | grep desktop | head -1
[23:10] <christophergray> miu5: or a buggy file system implementation, I just use ext4 here
[23:14] <christophergray> miu5: those are just wild guesses, though
[23:45] <miu5> christophergray, you still there?
[23:45] <christophergray> miu5: I'm back
[23:46] <miu5> christophergray, what do you mean by "could have been the installer for the output of this command: ls -c /usr/share/applications | grep desktop | head -1"   ?
[23:47] <christophergray> miu5: that shows the program last updated
[23:48] <miu5> christophergray, oh ok, but how do i know what was the program that changed the permissions? because i dont know when this even happened..
[23:49] <miu5> i mean is it possible to see when the permissions was changed?
[23:50] <christophergray> I don't really understand permissions much.  Are things working now?
[23:51] <miu5> christophergray, im also not sure if it should really show drwxr-xr-x    2 root root  12288 Aug 28 13:17 applications/ as you said... because i tried it on a fresh VM now and the VM says -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16346 Jul 17 15:23 /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
[23:52] <miu5> well, no.. i mean i havent changed the permissions yet, cause i dont know what the actual default permissions should be..
[23:52] <christophergray> the drwxr-xr-x is for the folder '/usr/share/applications'
[23:52] <miu5> oh ok
[23:54] <christophergray> but that is probably okay since you can run apps
[23:54] <miu5> ok my '/usr/share/applications' is fine.. it wasnt modified
[23:55] <christophergray> the mimeinfo.cache needs to be readable by you, to work for you
[23:55] <miu5> do you think because the /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache has wrong permissions thats why it keeps reverting back to default after apt-get update everytime ?.
[23:57] <christophergray> is there something in the mimeinfo.cache, sudo cat /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache


[04:03] <mathesis> how can define in lts.conf screen 1024x768?
[04:30] <jaime_k> May I ask general questions here?
[04:30] <jsgotangco> go ahead there aren't much people online at the moment though
[04:31] <jaime_k> I was wondering how hard it was to use edubuntu in a netboot environment.
[04:31] <jaime_k> I have Macs at my school that use Apple's NetBoot and the ISC-DHCP server (running on FreeBSD and configured by hand) at the moment.  I have no experience with Linux network booting.
[04:32] <jsgotangco> i am not familiar with netbooting with macs :/
[04:34] <jaime_k> In brief:  The Apple NetBoot feature "injects" itself inside existing DHCP infrastructures.  You sort of just turn it on in the GUI of the server and don't modify the existing DHCP server at all.
[04:34] <jaime_k> I'm not entirely sure how it does it, to be honest.  :)
[04:36] <jaime_k> My big question, though, is how hard is the edubuntu netbooting?
[06:58] <cbx33> hey Burgundavia
[06:58] <jsgotangco> hey
[06:58] <cbx33> hey js
[06:59] <jsgotangco> how's it going
[06:59] <cbx33> good, u?
[07:00] <jsgotangco> its alright
[07:00] <jsgotangco> nothing much happening though
[07:00] <cbx33> heh
[07:01] <cbx33> same here
[07:04] <cbx33> howz the job
[07:06] <mathesis> hi
[07:06] <mathesis> les regalo unos pics
[07:06] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG007.JPG
[07:06] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG006.JPG
[07:06] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG008.JPG
[07:07] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG009.JPG
[07:07] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG010.JPG
[07:07] <cbx33> can you stop pasting
[07:07] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG011.JPG
[07:08] <crimsun> no pete, pasting is the new fad.
[07:08] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG013.JPG
[07:08] <cbx33> heh
[07:08] <mathesis> check the last image
[07:08] <mathesis> check  las link ;)
[07:09] <mathesis> cyber coffe linux with edubuntu ;)
[07:09] <cbx33> cool ;)
[07:09] <cbx33> ping burgundavia
[07:10] <mathesis> its cool edbuntu
[07:10] <mathesis> i love edubuntu
[07:10] <mathesis> ;)
[07:10] <mathesis> see you tomorrow
[07:13] <RichEd-1> hi cbx33 mathesis
[07:13] <cbx33> hey rich
[07:14] <jsgotangco> hey RichEd
[07:14] <RichEd> you're up early pete ?
[07:14] <jsgotangco> hello
[07:15] <cbx33> rich yes
[07:15] <cbx33> got a meeting with corey
[07:15] <cbx33> trying to catch him earlier so he can sleep
[07:18] <Burgundavia> cbx33: you up now?
[07:18] <Burgundavia> rock
[07:19] <cbx33> yup
[07:19] <RichEd> hey Burgundavia ... good early morning to you
[07:19] <Burgundavia> good evening RichEd
[07:19] <Burgundavia> is 20 past 10 here
[07:19] <cbx33> on pocketpc, typing speed limited
[07:20] <cbx33> if you need more i'll switch to laptop
[07:20] <Burgundavia> shall we switch to gobby?
[07:20] <cbx33> heck lemme do that
[07:20] <cbx33> ooooh
[07:20] <cbx33> lemme get laptop then
[07:20] <Burgundavia> ok
[07:24] <pete_> hey Burgundavia
[07:24] <pete_> on laptop now
[07:24] <Burgundavia> have you got a gobby server or do I need to poke a hole in my firewall?
[07:25] <pete_> i don;t have one
[07:25] <Burgundavia> ok, I will do so
[07:25] <pete_> i only just installed gobby
[07:25] <pete_> thanks
[07:26] <Burgundavia> ip in pm
[07:44] <LaserJock> hi guys
[07:49] <Burgundavia> hey LaserJock
[07:53] <pete_> hi LaserJock
[07:53] <pete_> Burgundavia, you kill the server?
[07:56] <pete_> hey Burgundavia_ what happened?
[07:56] <Burgundavia_> pete_: sorry, laptop power died
[07:56] <Burgundavia_> did you get everything
[07:56] <Burgundavia_> ?
[07:56] <pete_> 6yup
[07:57] <Burgundavia_> ok, good
[08:25] <highvoltage> msg nickserv identify fa shizzile dizzile ma nizzle fizzle bizzle
[08:26] <LaserJock> wow, that's quite the password highvoltage
[08:27] <ajmitch> it was :)
[08:28] <Burgundavia> oopos
[08:39] <RichEd> ping highvoltage & hello to LaserJock & ajmitch
[08:39] <ajmitch> hi RichEd
[08:51] <highvoltage> LaserJock: it's my geky gangsta rap way of saying good morning :)
[08:51] <highvoltage> RichEd: pong
[12:30] <ogra_> juliux, i just went to the postbox ....
[12:30] <ogra_> many many thanks !
[12:30] <ogra_> !!!
[12:31] <juliux> ogra_, happy birthday
[12:31] <ogra_> thanks !
[12:31] <juliux> *sing*
[12:31] <ogra_> heh
[12:31] <juliux> we need sound over irc;)
[12:31] <cbx33> ogra: it's your birthday?
[12:31] <ogra_> yep, a bit ...
[12:31] <juliux> cbx33, yes it is;)
[12:31] <cbx33> HAPPY BIRTHDAY dude!!
[12:31] <ogra_> thanks !! :)
[12:32] <cbx33> feedback from Corey on chapter was good
[12:32] <cbx33> thanks fro all the help on that ogra
[12:32] <cbx33> are you ok with me logging bugs for tcm in malone now?? just so that I don;t forget them?
[12:32] <ogra_> sure
[12:32] <juliux> ogra_, the sparc is running fine with ltsp and fluxebox
[12:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> ogra, a bit?
[12:32] <cbx33> yeh i didn't get that either Kamping_Kaiser
[12:33] <juliux> cbx33, i only get it because i ask ogra_ if i can come to essen this weekend to our edubuntu weekend;)
[12:33] <ogra_> Kamping_Kaiser, well, there are others :)
[12:33] <ogra_> its not only my b-day :)
[12:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ogra_, i'm not sure i see, but happy birthday ;)
[12:34] <juliux> in this channel it is your birthday;)
[12:34] <cbx33> ogra_: you mean it's other peoples too?
[12:34] <ogra_> juliux, right, in the canonical channel i actually share it with two others :)
[12:36] <juliux> ogra_, if you need more stickers let me know, i have here 3500 stickers;)
[12:37] <ogra> nice ...
[12:37] <ogra> for UES i think
[12:37] <juliux> i have 500 edubuntu
[12:37] <juliux> 1500 ubuntu, 1000 kubuntu and 500 xubuntu
[12:37] <juliux> but i think we can get more from jenda
[12:37] <ogra_> i should probably sell them on the edulinux meeting next week :)
[12:38] <juliux> hehe
[12:38] <juliux> you can make a good profit with them;)
[12:38] <juliux> one sticker cost us 0,07
[12:39] <cbx33> are they nice stickers?
[12:39] <ogra_> yep
[12:39] <juliux> cbx33, i will make a picture if i have a digikam
[12:39] <cbx33> :( - no i dont
[12:39] <jsgotangco> stickers! i like!
[12:40] <cbx33> ogra: should i be filing bugs against source or product?
[12:41] <ogra_> highvoltage, any specific core packages apart from all these plugins you want in ?
[12:41] <ogra_> cbx33, depends ... what for ?
[12:42] <cbx33> tcm
[12:42] <ogra_> source
[12:42] <rockprincess> Happy Birthday Ogra, just seen it!!!!!
[12:42] <cbx33> methinks ogra wanted to keep it quiet....NO WAY !!!
[12:42] <ogra_> rockprincess, thanks :)
[12:43] <cbx33> when would we file against product?
[12:43] <ogra_> upstream bugs ...
[12:43] <cbx33> i see
[12:43] <ogra_> but since you are upstream in ubuntu, you can keep them in one place
[12:44] <ogra_> at the point where other distros adopt it (i could imagine redhat and k12) you need the upstream one
[12:44] <rockprincess> am I the only one who wants to have a kubuntu sticker instead of an ubuntu one?! :D
[12:44] <cbx33> right i see
[12:45] <ogra_> rockprincess, they are available ...
[12:45] <cbx33> what type of stickers are they?
[12:45] <juliux> rockprincess, i have also kubuntu ones;)
[12:45] <ogra_> edubuntu ones werent until recently ... :)
[12:45] <cbx33> are they the ricking case ones
[12:45] <juliux> cbx33, the powered by stickers
[12:45] <rockprincess> juliux: i know, and you'll hopefully get me one when you come over to vienna....pleasssse! :)
[12:45] <ogra_> cbx33, the replacements for "designed for the bad thing from M$)
[12:46] <cbx33> YAY
[12:46] <cbx33> how can we get hold of some?
[12:46] <ogra> come to UES :)
[12:46] <cbx33> heh
[12:46] <juliux> hehe
[12:46] <cbx33> not the most helpful of ideas :p
[12:46] <juliux> cbx33, or ask jenda he prints the stickers
[12:47] <cbx33> I'm willing to pay for some
[12:47] <cbx33> the kids would love them here ;)
[12:47] <juliux> cbx33, i also get the stickers from him
[12:47] <cbx33> they've been after those stickeres for ages
[12:47] <cbx33> :(
[12:50] <jsgotangco> UDS
[12:52] <pips1> !seen RichEd
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen riched - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <pips1> edubuntugirl: !seen RichEd
[12:52] <edubuntugirl> pips1: *blink*
[12:52] <pips1> ack
[01:00] <pips1> edubuntugirl: tell RichEd I'm hoping to briefly talk to you on irc today, please let me know your availability in the next 4 days before you travel
[01:00] <edubuntugirl> Righto, pips1!
[01:00] <pips1> ta
[02:47] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: announce Happy birthday ogra!
[02:47] <edubuntugirl> Hear Me Now!  Hear Me Now!  Announcement from highvoltage!  'Happy birthday ogra'!
[02:49] <ogra> hehe, thanks
[02:49] <cstextiles> ogra_:  Happy Birthday ogra heard from highvoltage
[02:50] <highvoltage> ogra: on the Xfce packages, I suppose the best would be to do an apt-cache show xubuntu-desktop and remove all the stuff that doesn't make sense to include, such as abiword, xubuntu-artwork, etc
[02:52] <ogra> yep
[02:52] <ogra> i'm just finishing with the firsdt set of seeds ...
[02:52] <ogra> i dont expect it to be perfect initially c:)
[02:53] <highvoltage> it doesn't seem that there's that much that can go wrong though.
[02:54] <pips1> ogra is it true?
[02:54] <pips1> Happy birthday, then!!
[02:54] <ogra> pips1, thanks :)
[02:55] <pips1> Hope you are getting to be somewhere in the sun today! :-)
[02:55] <ogra> MY DESK IS IN THE SUN :)
[02:55] <pips1> (It's nice and sunny here in Zurich)
[02:55] <ogra> OOPS
[02:55] <ogra> sorry
[02:56] <pips1> ?
[02:56] <ogra> didnt mean to shout
[02:56] <pips1> caps lock
[02:56] <pips1> hehe
[02:56] <pips1> my office is rather dark, but I had a nice bicycle ride earlier :)
[03:17] <ogra_> it would be nice if people could please check that and give some feedback http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ship-addon
[03:20] <juliux> ogra_, what is with the mount-plugin for xfce?
[03:21] <ogra_> gnome-volume-manager is already installed, afaik it uses that if available
[03:21] <cbx33> :(
[03:22] <juliux> the mount-plugin is only a applet like the diskapllet for the gnome pannel
[03:22] <cbx33> phimage has a memory leak :(
[03:22] <ogra_> if not, feel free to suggest it
[03:22] <cbx33> but i can't see why
[03:22] <ogra_> juliux, is it in main ?
[03:22] <juliux> ogra_, yes apt-cache show xfce4-mount-plugin
[03:22] <ogra_> i can add all kind of stuff as long as its in maijn :)
[03:22] <juliux> great
[03:23] <cbx33> heheh
[03:23] <juliux> ogra_, is there a deadline for the addon cd?
[03:24] <pips1> ogra what about x-chat? is that included on the cd by default for feisty?
[03:24] <ogra_> juliux, not for stuff thats already in main ...
[03:25] <ogra_> pips1, i'm not yet sure if we shouldnt add it to the first CD
[03:25] <juliux> ogra_, good
[03:25] <pips1> ah
[03:25] <ogra_> i will have to rip out the stuff i just moved ...
[03:25] <ogra_> so we will have free space, but i dont know how much yet
[03:26] <pips1> what about including some games?
[03:26] <pips1> just a thought :)
[03:29] <pscheie> ogra_: in the 6.10 livecd are some of the kedu packages removed (presumably for space reasons) ?
[03:30] <ogra_> we never shipped all of kdeedu ...
[03:30] <ogra_> only a set of packages ... and as far as i remember we never removed any
[03:30] <ogra_> kdeedu removal only makes sense as a whole, the apps are not the space consuming parts
[03:31] <pscheie> I'm just comparing 6.10 with K12ltsp 6, and k12 has a few more edutainment apps
[03:31] <pscheie> not sure if Eric adds those or what
[03:31] <pscheie> e.g. KGeography
[03:31] <pscheie> I thought that was part of kde edu
[03:32] <pscheie> not a big deal
[03:33] <pscheie> I generally install k12, 'cause I'm used to it, but give out edubuntu livecds to people so they can check it out on their own
[03:33] <pscheie> they're obviously not identical, but close enough
[03:33] <ogra_> k12 has five CDs or so ...
[03:34] <ogra_> we have one ... (now two with feisty)
[03:34] <pscheie> will the live cd be two cds?
[03:34] <ogra_> it's always a matter of space :)
[03:34] <ogra_> nope
[03:34] <cbx33> :( - GAH memory leaks are a pain
[03:34] <ogra_> the liveCD will have a selection of the best of the two install CDs
[03:34] <cbx33> and I have no idea why it's happening
[03:35] <ogra_> i have to figure out this week how to shuffle the packages rigth
[03:35] <pscheie> I like the livecd to show off the apps, don't need the ltsp parts
[03:35] <pips1> live = "best of" --> wow!
[03:35] <cbx33> ogra_: you don;t have any tips for memory leakage in python do you?
[03:36] <pscheie> pips1: right; otherwise we have to give the teachers a laptop with the whole shebang installed
[03:36] <pscheie> live CDs < $ than laptops
[03:37] <pscheie> ogra_: if the apps are not the space consumers, what are?
[03:38] <pips1> language packs
[03:38] <pips1> for the apps
[03:38] <pscheie> ah, that makes sense
[03:38] <ogra_> pscheie, libs and translations
[03:38] <ogra_> for one 200k kdeedu app i need half of kde on the CD
[03:39] <pips1> right
[03:39] <pscheie> right, I kinda figured that
[03:40] <pscheie> I've been trying to figure out a way to build a livecd for k12 but considering an installed system consumes >3GB, it wasn't looking good
[03:40] <pscheie> then it dawned on me: edubuntu has most of the apps
[03:41] <pscheie> has anyone tried building a livedvd?
[03:42] <ogra_> why ? we have one ...
[03:42] <ogra_> no need that you extra build another one :)
[03:43] <pscheie> right--I'd much rather use someone else's work than do my own ;-)
[03:43] <pscheie> I'm just a little slow, it didn't occur to me until recently
[03:44] <pscheie> does edubuntu have a live dvd?
[03:47] <pips1> pscheie: http://www.edubuntu.org/Download "The DVD image contains both the live, and install ISO's, as well as all the packages officially supported by Ubuntu"
[03:48] <pscheie> ah, I was just looking at the mirror at the local university here, which doesn't have the dvd iso
[03:48] <pscheie> thanks pips1
[03:50] <pips1> well, I'm actually not sure where to get the dvd... the link on edubuntu.org/Download brings you to the *daily build* which is for testing purposes only
[03:50] <pips1> ^^ ogra?
[03:51] <pscheie> I see an edgy dvd iso from Oct. 2006
[03:51] <pips1> pscheie: where?
[03:51] <pscheie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/current/
[03:52] <pips1> oh, I didn't pay attention
[03:53] <pips1> I was only looking at the title of the page, but indeed, you can find both 6.10 release (edgy) and the daily build for feisty
[03:53] <pips1> :)
[03:54] <pscheie> pips1: do you know if the live dvd includes kgeography?
[03:54] <pscheie> the live cd doesn't seem to have it
[03:54] <pips1> I don't know
[03:54] <pscheie> but i'm not sure if it's part of kde edu or not
[03:55] <pscheie> I don't see it listed in the manifest for the dvd
[03:55] <pips1> yeah, I was just checking myself :) so... no.
[03:58] <pscheie> the kgeography website says it ships with kde-edu 3.5
[03:58] <pscheie> what version of kde edu is in edubuntu 6.10?
[03:59] <pips1> I don't think ubuntu main has the whole of kde-edu.. (not sure)
[03:59] <bddebian> Heya
[03:59] <pscheie> that's what I was asking ogra about, if they pick & choose parts from kde edu or include the whole bundle
[04:00] <pscheie> it seemed like he indicated they just put the whole bundle in (why wouldn't they?)
[04:00] <pips1> well, up to know, we had severe space limitation on the single cd...
[04:01] <pscheie> right, I can appreciate that
[04:01] <pscheie> that's why I thought perhaps the dvd would have the whole bundle
[04:02] <pips1> I think the dvd is a bit of a "second class citizen", i.e. it's just a combination of the live and install CDs
[04:03] <pips1> afaik
[04:04] <pscheie> perhaps I'll try remastering the live cd, toss out some language files, put in some apps
[04:04] <pscheie> make it a 'greatest hits' disk as you suggested
[04:05] <pscheie> does the live cd include the ltsp parts?
[04:05] <pscheie> I would not need or want those
[04:05] <pscheie> since the point is to just show off the apps that come with it, to give to teachers, etc.
[04:08] <pips1> right
[04:08] <pips1> about the dvd, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307060
[04:11] <pips1> ^^^ note that this is a community project
[04:11] <pips1> i.e. not an official release
[04:11] <pscheie> anyone know how much space the GUI installer takes up on the live cd?
[04:12] <pscheie> I'd think not too much, but I really have no idea
[05:23] <cstextile1> Is there any way to get the workstation id or no like ws001 from the LTSP client so that i can use in the shell script for some custom operation?
[05:26] <pscheie> cstextile1: $LTSP_HOSTNAME
[05:27] <cstextile1> pscheie: This works in the Edubuntu 6.10 as I had tried set command to see all the variables but could not find?
[05:27] <pscheie> hmm, now I can't find it either
[05:27] <pscheie> try $DISPLAY
[05:28] <cstextile1> Does set command shows all the variables?
[05:28] <pscheie> env
[05:28] <cstextile1> What is the $DISPLAY shows?
[05:28] <pscheie> env command shows all environment variables
[05:28] <pscheie> $DISPLAY is an environment variable, not a command
[05:29] <cstextile1> ok so "env" is the command  I had typed just "set" to see the variables
[05:29] <cstextile1> what does plain "set" command shows
[05:29] <pscheie> it shows the workstation number or address of your client
[05:29] <pscheie> type 'echo $DISPLAY'
[05:30] <cstextile1> pscheie: Ya I got that I will try from Edubuntu amchine which is at a different location and so asked you that
[05:30] <pscheie> I think set is a holdover from C shell or some other earlier shell
[05:31] <cstextile1> pscheie: ya that's why after showing some variables it shows some C constructs
[05:38] <pscheie> if you want just the workstation number you can do this:
[05:38] <pscheie> echo $DISPLAY|cut -d. -f1
[05:38] <pscheie> and it will strip off the other parts
[05:39] <cstextile1> I got that I have wrote that command and I will use the same command
[05:39] <cstextile1> so it will give me the workstation no
[05:41] <mathesis> hi ogra
[05:41] <pscheie> cstextile1: right
[05:43] <cstextile1> pscheie:Thanks for the same
[06:10] <Laser_away> ogra: pingy pingy, pitti approved rasmol MIR
[06:11] <ogra> Laser_away, pfft, already seeded ....
[06:11] <ogra> :)
[06:11] <Laser_away> lol
[06:12] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/20070216/
[06:12] <ogra> i only managed to get 88M ob the addon CD yet
[06:12] <ogra> *on
[06:13] <ogra> if i get to 200 i'm good :)
[06:13] <ogra> (average between the arches)
[06:15] <cbx33> ping ogra ogra_
[06:27] <Laser_away> ogra: will the 1st CD get more?
[06:57] <jbrefort> Laser_away, commited your patch with a few cosmetic changes
[06:57] <Laser_away> jbrefort: cool, thanks
[07:54] <Sigurd112> ahoi
[11:02] <mathesis> hi
[11:02] <mathesis> where is documentatio for lts.conf in edubuntu
[11:02] <mathesis>   /usr/share/doc/
[11:22] <Thrallie> #archlinux
[11:22] <Thrallie> #archlinux


[01:25] <xubuntu506> how do i download 7zip
[01:26] <Unit193> !info p7zip-full
[01:30] <Unit193> xubuntu506: You can use USC to get it, or sudo apt-get install p7zip-full  to get it.
[01:33] <xubuntu506> i type that in erminal?
[01:33] <xubuntu506> terminal*
[01:33] <xubuntu506> sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[01:33] <xubuntu506> how can i use usc ?
[01:34] <xubuntu506> unit193 how do i know if it was downloaded sucessfully?
[01:35] <Unit193> That command would install it.
[01:35] <Unit193> !software
[01:38] <xubuntu506> let's see if it works.. downloading a .zip file
[01:43] <xubuntu506> wow cant find it
[01:43] <Unit193> You can use "file-roller", which is called "Archive Manager" in the menus.
[01:43] <David-A> xubuntu506: zip and 7zip are different things
[01:47] <xubuntu506> theres no 'extract"
[03:00] <alch3m157> sup guys
[03:01] <alch3m157> when i log in, thunar loads instantly as well as my compiz doesnt work - compiz works when i log out and log back in
[03:01] <alch3m157> any idea why these happen?
[07:50] <ChesterX> hello everybody, i am using xubuntu 12.10 64bit and want to install zen coding for gedit 3. for some reason the local folder (which i had to create because is was non existent) isn t recognized. any suggestions?
[11:14] <Seus> i'm having an issue getting my windows 7 machine to connect to a samba share, however my osx box can connect no problems...Using the same username and password on both machines to try and connect...any places to look to see why I'm not able to connect?
[11:17] <TheSheep> try asking on ##windows perhaps
[11:17] <TheSheep> they have more experience there
[11:17] <Seus> ok thanks!
[13:18] <Kamal_> Does anyone know what the default xfce theme in xubuntu is?
[13:28] <koegs> Kamal_: greybird
[13:28] <Kamal_> Yeah right I remember now
[13:28] <Kamal_> Thanks
[13:58] <robgobbler> Hello
[13:58] <robgobbler> Anyone know about ext2fsd?
[13:58] <robgobbler> trying to read my linux partition from WIndows 7
[14:06] <robgobbler> no one alive?
[14:08] <TheSheep> robgobbler: for windows help try ##windows
[14:09] <scottbomb> Anyone notice issues with Launchpad this morning?
[14:25] <Jessica898> Is any way to remove icons from desktop ? like trash bin
[14:26] <baizon> Jessica898: yes
[14:26] <len-1304> settings manager ->desktop ->icons tab
[14:27] <len-1304> at the bottom is Default icons where you can remove icons one at a time
[14:27] <baizon> Jessica898: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/preferences#icons
[14:27] <len-1304> I use the one at the top to remove all of them... (Icon type)
[14:27] <Jessica898> thank you :)
[14:28] <len-1304> np
[14:32] <ceegee> hi there
[14:34] <ceegee> I am using xubuntu 12.10 64 bit on my pc with two screens, connected with DVI to a nvidia card. After login to my XFCE session the screen is duplicated (all the same on booth screens). I am able to set one screen as primary and the other one as extended with xrandr, but I have to do this manually on every boot.
[14:35] <len-1304> ceegee, If you then go to the settings manager and select display
[14:35] <len-1304> and change anything back and forth, it will save your settings
[14:36] <ceegee> I tried to put the xrandr command into startup applications in the xfce settings menu, did not work, next try was to set the command in .xprofile, but it failed
[14:36] <len-1304> xfce has a config daemon that sets up xrandr that wouold over write that.
[14:38] <ceegee> okay, now I changed the resolution to a lower one, said "keep changes", reverted it back to the original value and kept this change too
[14:38] <len-1304> if you use the settings manager->display dialog to rotate a screen then put it back to normal it will save the screen setting including possition to the xfce file
[14:38] <len-1304> So you should be able to reboot and have it stay that way
[14:38] <len-1304> Just a note
[14:38] <len-1304> ...
[14:39] <ceegee> I hope so, if not I will ask you again ;-)
[14:39] <ceegee> hehe
[14:39] <len-1304> if you ever boot with only one screen then this set of settings will be lost
[14:39] <len-1304> Handling dual screens is an area that "needs work"
[14:40] <holstein> driver support as well
[14:40] <ceegee> yeah, I see
[14:40] <holstein> that can be a deal breaker.. driver support
[14:40] <ceegee> okay guys, I wil give it a try
[14:40] <ceegee> see you later
[14:40] <len-1304> bye]
[16:03] <smudger> hi all
[16:03] <smudger> can anyone answer a quick easy question
[16:03] <holstein> !ask
[16:03] <smudger> kind of poll really so more replies the better
[16:03] <smudger> ;)
[16:04] <smudger> what are folks experience with gksudo or gksu?
[16:04] <holstein> smudger: a poll is probably better for the offtopic channels
[16:04] <holstein> !ot
[16:04] <holstein> !gksudo
[16:04] <smudger> yes i know that
[16:05] <smudger> but when i use it it hangs my system for several minutes
[16:05] <holstein> smudger: then, i would ask the support question here.. what hangs? gksudo? how? what is the command you are running?
[16:06] <smudger> its not a poll really - just that i need more foljk to reply to establish if i have an individual problem with my install or its a bug to report
[16:06] <smudger> say i want to edit a file without changing to root ownership
[16:07] <bazhang> what file
[16:07] <smudger> i gksudo leafpad or gedit or even nano
[16:07] <smudger> any file
[16:07] <bazhang> which one, be very clear please
[16:08] <smudger> say fstab for example but its not a good example as it would not be helpful to be told well just use sudo ;)
[16:09] <bazhang> smudger, best to give the exact issue. not some hypothetical
[16:09] <smudger> any file
[16:09] <bazhang> no idea
[16:09] <smudger> any text file
[16:09] <smudger> ok so noone else having this problem
[16:09] <bazhang> you have not described any problem
[16:09] <smudger> that is what i need to know ;)
[16:10] <smudger> when i try to open a text file using any text editor in combination with gksudo or gksu the system freezes for a while - a few minutes
[16:11] <smudger> i don;t see how that is not a problem described but hey i am just human ;)
[16:11] <bazhang> system settings files, as in /   , are not the same as in your home. thats why there is no answer as you have not given any details at all
[16:11] <smudger> how can i be more exact than that!
[16:12] <smudger> ah so i need to check if i get the same delay outside root area
[16:12] <smudger> well that my small brain can understand
[16:12] <smudger> k will check
[16:13] <smudger> may be a while before i get thawed.. maybe not
[16:16] <justakill> i install pyglet, pygame and pyopengl throw apt-get but i can't find the modules anywhere in my library's
[16:16] <justakill> threw*
[16:16] <justakill> i can't import them either
[16:16] <justakill> anyone know what I can do?
[16:16] <justakill> or where they are?
[16:19] <smudger> ok just got thawed after gksudo a backup text file in /home partition area
[16:19] <smudger> same partion as where my user folder is
[16:20] <smudger> so ruled out possibility that caused by trying to edit file in root partition
[16:21] <smudger> but i am assuming that no-one else has this problem since no-one has mentioned it and gksudo is probably prefferred by most as per psychocat link
[16:22] <smudger> so i will have to check forum more thoroughly and see if anyone else has had same problem before posting a new thread.
[16:24] <smudger> at least i got a response here that was supportish which is more than can be said for when i tried out mint - where they hang out egos mostly it seems ;)
[16:25] <smudger> other than this gksu freeze everything else works well for me - 12.04 xubuntu
[16:27] <smudger> is there some log file somewhere which i can find to see what is happening during the freeze period?
[16:28] <smudger> that would be helpful to know
[16:28] <smudger> if anyone knows
[16:28] <smudger> oh well...
[16:29] <len-1304> log files are all in /var/log/
[16:29] <smudger> is there a log of what is happening when programs are executed?
[16:30] <len-1304> Ones to look at are syslog, messages, auth.log,
[16:30] <smudger> tnx!
[16:30] <smudger> very helpful
[16:31] <smudger> i'll keep this open in case anyone else chips in like that
[16:38] <smudger> i don;t have a messages file in /var/log
[16:39] <smudger> in auth log there is a mention not of any problem but the timestamps show a 3 minute delay in completetion of the gksudo request to gedit the file
[16:39] <len-1304> No problem, I think it mostly there for old time sake, most of the stuff that used to use messages has been split off into its own file.
[16:39] <smudger> k
[16:40] <smudger> it may be a conflict with lightdm
[16:40] <smudger> since gksudo brings up the graphical passwd box
[16:40] <smudger> even when using nano or something.
[16:40] <bazhang> nano does not use gksudo
[16:40] <len-1304> look in the xorg file and in ~/.xsession-errors
[16:41] <smudger> k
[16:42] <len-1304> smudger, honestly, for the amount of time people use gksudo, even if it did take time to do anything most people wouldn't notice.
[17:11] <aicasn-V> hey all. i'm having trouble getting windows name resolution to work and i'm not sure why. i have the winbind package installed (ver 3, not 4) and i have  hosts: files wins dns  in my /etc/nsswitch.conf    i still cannot resolve MyWindowsPC1 from my xubuntu box.  any ideas?
[17:13] <aicasn-V> to be specific, a couple of utilities can resolve the hostname to an ip, but not all...  getent hosts [hostname] works, ping [hostname] works, but nslookup [hostname] does not and host [hostname] does not
[17:14] <aicasn-V> most importantly, nor does boost::asio::ip::tcp::resolver
[17:15] <GridCube> i... understood some of those words
[17:17] <aicasn-V>  :)  i need a networking guru
[17:19] <bazhang> ##networking then aicasn-V
[17:19] <aicasn-V> ah. ty
[17:19] <bazhang> np
[18:16] <xubuntu789> lol killin time
[20:16] <Alexz4nder> I'm having trouble getting XFCE to start after the login screen on Xubuntu 12,04. I've encountered this problem before with the .Xauthority file ownership, but this time there must be something else preventing it from starting up. Anyone have any ideas?
[20:19] <baizon> Alexz4nder: try removing the .cache folder
[20:20] <Unit193> !xhangs
[20:22] <Alexz4nder> I've changed ownership of the .ICEauthority file but that didn't fix it. I can try removing it and see if that works.
[20:22] <baizon> Alexz4nder: ubottu said remove this file ;)
[20:23] <Alexz4nder> yes, that's what I was responding to.
[20:24] <Alexz4nder> I can try the .cache folder after that
[20:38] <Alexz4nder> neither of those worked
[20:41] <Alexz4nder> and the GUI doesn't hang. After entering pw, it goes blank (as it normally does), but then goes right back to the login screen.
[20:43] <Alexz4nder> I've had this identical problem before on another machine, so I looked up the problem and found that changing ownership of .Xauthority fixed it. But now I'm having same problem on another machine and cannot get it to work.
[20:43] <Alexz4nder> I have to shut down lightdm and do "startxfce4" to get GUI to start up.
[20:43] <Alexz4nder> that's the only way it works
[20:44] <Alexz4nder> But then I have another problem. I want to access it remotely. I have Vino installed on the machine that's having the problem, and I'd like to access it with Vinagre.
[20:45] <Alexz4nder> but X11 won't run, and when it does with "startxfce4", for some reason Vino won't start up.
[20:50] <Alexz4nder> how would I have the system start up with "startxfce4" instead of "lightdm"?
[20:52] <Alexz4nder> when I try to start Vino server, I get this message:
[20:53] <Alexz4nder> WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=[lots of numbers I just replaced] --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n
[20:54] <Alexz4nder> ** Message: The desktop sharing service is already running, exiting.
[20:54] <Alexz4nder> but it's not running.
[20:58] <Alexz4nder> could it be that "startxfce4" is starting up in ctrl+alt+F8 and the monitor is stuck in ctrl+alt+F7? I've experienced something like that before. I'm trying to do this all remotely right now.
[22:15] <trewe> anyone an idea were to configure the x and y coordinates of the lightdm window?
[22:16] <trewe> not in /etc/lightdm/*.conf


[15:59] <Rinchen> meeting time beuno mrevell sladen nixternal etc
[15:59] <mrevell> hi
[15:59] <Rinchen>  #ubuntu-meeting although it seems everyone forgot!
[16:06] <sladen> mmm
[16:07] <Rinchen> Howdy
[16:07] <mrevell> Rinchen: Any chance you could give me access to the doc on my<EMAIL_ADDRESS>addr please? I think Google Docs has mailed you
[16:08] <Rinchen> on it's way
[16:08] <mrevell> thx
[16:09] <Rinchen> mrevell, I've copied it over as Fridge Revision V2. I'll edit that one so I don't lose the history
[16:09] <Rinchen> you should have access
[16:26] <svaksha> hi, isnt the meeting today, sorry am late, had no network
[16:27] <mrevell> Rinchen: Cool, just read the doc, after some LP-related distractions.
[16:27] <Rinchen> mrevell, I've just edited it and sent the collab link the fridge list
[16:27] <Rinchen> hi svaksha!
[16:27] <Rinchen> svaksha, like, you're never online when I'm here!
[16:28] <svaksha> Rinchen: hi :) is the meeting cancelled?
[16:28] <svaksha> Rinchen: lol
[16:28] <Rinchen> svaksha, yeah, not many ppl showed. Sent two emails.
[16:28] <Rinchen> I'm using the meeting time to work on the Fridge rejuv stuff
[16:28] <svaksha> Rinchen: blame the timezones
[16:28]  * svaksha goes to check her mail
[16:29]  * svaksha missed dinner to be here.... network sucks in India
[16:30] <nixternal> bah, sorry for missing the meeting :/
[16:30] <nixternal> we have way to much snow here, out working on clearing out the driveway
[16:34] <Rinchen> nixternal, yeah, you suck. We had like an inch and then it blew over.
[16:34] <Rinchen> I'm sooo missing the snow
[16:36] <nixternal> man, I am not missing it at all
[16:36] <nixternal> we had about 6" of old snow, and then got 13" of new powder yesterday
[16:40]  * svaksha throws 2 snowballs at rinchen and nixternal
[16:40] <nixternal> hehe
[16:40] <Rinchen> and one would think that being in the mountains of Colorado one would have snow
[16:41] <Rinchen> hehe
[16:42] <svaksha> gosh i wish we had snow in bangalore ...wistful
[16:45] <nixternal> I will email you some snow :)
[16:45]  * svaksha hugs nixternal
[16:46] <svaksha> its been so long that i touched snow :)
[16:47] <svaksha> Rinchen: any news about the 'real name' discussion with LP dev's?
[16:48] <Rinchen> svaksha, I've been unsuccessful in getting that restriction lifted at the present time.
[16:48] <Rinchen> svaksha, as mrevell pointed out to me, it goes beyond just women
[16:48] <Rinchen> it also includes young kids who happen to be FOSS developers
[16:48] <svaksha> Rinchen: too bad, beyond women ?
[16:48] <mrevell> Yeah, we have some minors who are not allowed to use real names
[16:49] <svaksha> so althe more that the rule should be removed or modified atleast
[16:49] <Rinchen> svaksha, I agree.
[16:50] <svaksha> does that mean they cant participate because of this rule...sad
[16:52] <jpatrick> Rinchen: what's the age limit?
[16:52] <Rinchen> There are advantages to having them participate, certainly, but it's not integral to Launchpad.  Launchpad itself doesn't have that restriction so everyone can participate. It's only the beta team we're talking about
[16:52] <Rinchen> jpatrick, there is no age limit
[16:53] <Rinchen> https://help.launchpad.net/BetaTesting
[16:53] <jpatrick> ah, right
[16:53] <svaksha> maybe keep it as an optional / individual choice for BT team participants, that makes it more women, kid and minors friendly
[17:06]  * beuno waves
[17:06]  * beuno is embarrassed his UTC <> localtime translation table got mixed up
[17:12]  * svaksha waves a hi to beuno
[17:13] <beuno> I see some heavy online editing is taking place though
[18:41]  * svaksha waves g'nite and goes to get some Zzz...


[12:12] <artnay_> oh
[12:12] <artnay_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight3
[12:31] <artnay_> http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/images/screenshots/dapper/flight3/default-ubuntu-desktop-big.png - now is that a modification of tango icons (evolution)?
[12:32] <artnay_> what do you think of logout action that is in the right corner?
[12:40] <artnay_> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/4.91/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES
[12:40] <artnay_> A completely revamped look and feel including a bubbly new
[12:40] <artnay_> theme, wallpaper, screensaver and logo has been provided that
[12:40] <artnay_> is visually appealing and demonstrates the exciting and user
[12:40] <artnay_> friendly nature of Fedora.
[12:41] <artnay_> artwork, attention needed! :)
[12:43] <artnay_> and here is the new look: http://madpenguin.org/images/reviews/fc5t2/defgnome.jpg
[12:47] <artnay_> it's using clearlooks 2 as a metacity theme. really, why not use bvc's unity in ubuntu? is it because of the red button? :o
[12:52] <artnay> quite a monolog... comments?
[01:08] <_jason> Hey, what license should I choose in 'theme submission'.  I am submitting an AIM buddy icon to art.ubuntu.com: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/ubuntu-logo-icon-white.jpg .  Just not sure since the actual logo is a trademark of canonical
[01:10] <artnay> what does wiki say about it?
[01:13] <artnay> hey mhz_BBS
[02:00] <artnay> uh, 03:01 AM. bye!
[03:09] <_jason> Hey, what license should I choose in 'theme submission'.  I am submitting an AIM buddy icon to art.ubuntu.com: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/ubuntu-logo-icon-white.jpg .  Just not sure since the actual logo is a trademark of canonical
[05:45] <_jason> lol if someone mods the art.ubuntu.com page here, I doubled posted by mistake because I pressed the back button... then I reported abuse on myself :)
[12:48] <lapo> hi
[03:10] <artnay> hey guys, have you tested flight3 already?


[09:49] <mkarnicki> hi guys
[09:49] <duanedesign> hello mkarnicki
[09:49]  * duanedesign is writting his sponsorship request for the next UDS
[09:50] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: oh oh! it's the time already?
[09:50] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: i dont think they announced it. At least i havent heard. But i checked the site and it is up
[09:50] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: the uds-m side?
[09:50] <mkarnicki> *site
[09:51] <duanedesign> its N
[09:51] <duanedesign> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/
[09:51] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: thanks. I didn't know they go alphabetically ^ ^
[09:51] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: ^
[09:51] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: yes, thanks :)
[09:52] <duanedesign> good luck
[09:52] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I think it's little probable to get sponsored if I'm located in Europe.. ?
[09:52] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: the flight ticket would be to expensive for me..
[09:52] <duanedesign> i am not sure. Last year i did not apply and then people got sponsored that I thought, hmmm, I do more then them
[09:53] <duanedesign> so this time I am not talking myself out of it.
[09:53] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: oh, I see. sure, good luck then :)
[09:53] <duanedesign> so you should definetly try
[09:54] <mkarnicki> duanedesign:  I think I will :)
[09:55] <duanedesign> would be fun if we could all go.
[09:55] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: yea =) /me thinks about getting a visa
[09:57] <duanedesign> darn it feature freeze was on the 12th
[09:58] <duanedesign> i was hoping to get one of my apps in this release
[09:59] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: aah, u missed it by 2 days :<
[10:00] <duanedesign> oh well. Now i have time to go through Debian and do it the 'right' way
[10:02] <mkarnicki> ;)
[10:02] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: have you ever been to http://projecteuler.net
[10:03] <duanedesign> i am doing some of them now
[10:05] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: yes, although I'm not much into project euler, that's the stuff I'm interested in during academic year :)
[10:05] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I use http://spoj.pl or http://online-judge.uva.es
[10:06] <mkarnicki> world is full of interesting problems waiting to be solved :)
[10:08] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: from euler I solved only first 11 problems, I might continue one day :)
[10:10] <duanedesign> neat thanks for the links
[10:11] <mkarnicki> you're welcome
[10:12] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: i am self taught so these sites help get me out of my 'comfort zone' :)
[10:12] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: ^_^ good luck, let me know if I can be of any help
[10:13] <duanedesign> thank you again
[10:14]  * mkarnicki broke AU1 and looks for what he's missing
[11:00] <ajmitch> mkarnicki: I've been sponsored for UDS in the past & I'm in NZ, so it's certainly possible for you :)
[11:00] <mkarnicki> ajmitch: that's great news :) \o/
[11:01] <ajmitch> & this was UDS in spain, as far away from NZ as I could get :)
[11:01] <ajmitch> ~24h on a plane
[11:01] <mkarnicki> ajmitch: impressive :) that's really good news
[11:02] <mkarnicki> UDS is in 4th week of my academic year, but I really would like to go :)
[11:03] <ajmitch> it'd suit me well if I were able to go this year
[11:03] <ajmitch> it's a publci holiday in NZ on one of the days, so I'd only need to take 4 days off work + whatever's needed for travel :)
[11:03] <mkarnicki> ajmitch: :)
[11:04] <duanedesign> wow 24hrs on a plane
[11:05] <mkarnicki> for the love of Ubunutu hehe
[11:06] <ajmitch> duanedesign: yeah, flying from NZ can take awhile :)
[11:06]  * ajmitch would need to be doing some useful stuff to be sponsored again
[11:08]  * mkarnicki doesn't know if his efforts are sufficient
[11:09] <duanedesign> ajmitch: i guess you get used to it living in NZ
[11:09] <mkarnicki> doens't hurt to try :)
[11:10] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: yeah that is my thought
[11:11]  * duanedesign gonna wonder outside and try one last time to see the meteor shower before the sun starts to poke its head up
[11:12] <mkarnicki> sounds great. sun is behind the clouds here
[11:12] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: its been reaching 40c here for several days in a row
[11:13] <duanedesign> doesnt look like there is a break in sight
[11:13] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: that's terrible, we had those temeratures some time ago, it's nice and ~18C here now
[11:13] <duanedesign> its 32c here and its 5am :P
[11:13] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: where are you located again? I forgot
[11:13] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: what r u doing up at 5AM :D?
[11:13] <duanedesign> United States - Oklahoma
[11:14] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: you got up or didn't go to sleep ;) ?
[11:14] <mkarnicki> aha
[11:14] <duanedesign> got up
[11:14] <mkarnicki> :O
[11:14] <mkarnicki> sometimes I go to bed at 4AM o_O
[11:14] <duanedesign> when work is slow I get my hours all backwards
[11:15] <mkarnicki> hmm
[11:15] <duanedesign> cya in a few
[11:16] <mkarnicki> bye!
[15:26] <paulm9> hi can someone help me with connecting to ubuntuone
[19:35] <ojii> hi everyone
[19:35] <ojii> I see ubuntu one now supports syncing to mobiles, but I can't find my model (HTC Desire, an Android phone) in the list, can I still somehow use this feature?
[19:36] <duanedesign> ojii: hello
[19:37] <duanedesign> ojii: i think with the androids you just pick a phone that is similar to yours
[19:37] <ojii> i have no clue what phone would be similar
[19:38] <ojii> I almost want my old stone-age Nokia back
[19:38] <ojii> these new thingies are confusing
[19:38] <duanedesign> :)
[19:39] <ojii> i went from Nokia 3410 to HTC Desire, quite a shock tbh
[19:41] <ojii> tbh the ubuntuone phone page needs a qr code for android phones instead of those dropdowns
[19:42] <duanedesign> ojii: ok
[19:42] <duanedesign> ojii: i looked through the logs
[19:42] <duanedesign> ojii: if you have android 2.1+ it will work. Select 'other'
[19:43] <ojii> i have 2.1 as far as i know
[19:43] <duanedesign> ojii: and grab the "Funambol" app from the store
[19:43] <duanedesign> ojii: the page will give you your user/pass and host
[19:44] <ojii> ah thanks a lot duanedesign
[19:44] <ojii> gonna try that