[03:17] <simtower> h3htimo, too much work to get stuff working under ubuntu
[03:17] <winston> I'm updating both my PC and my Powerbook (ubuntu onn my powerbook G3 did not run well )
[03:18] <simtower> scanner, printer, laptop special features... so many hours i will never get back
[03:18] <h3htimo> simtower, yeah, but u will appreciate your system much more when ur done
[03:19] <simtower> i will settle with something that works correctly without wasting my time
[03:19] <dnite> hm. well.. it apears that firefox itself uses your gtk theme to style it's 'widgets' .. but any widgets in html get a nice and ugly .. non-theme.. anyone know of a way to fix this?? It's not a huge deal, but i'd really love to be able to fix this...
[03:19] <jvai> h3htimo: sooo tru...
[03:20] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to get a video card working
[03:20] <jordan_> DigitalNinja, What kind?
[03:20] <RaV|Strangler> ok so the alt cd worked
[03:20] <RaV|Strangler> thanks
[03:20] -dean703:#ubuntu- asdf
[03:20] <h3htimo> jvai, i finally got my sound working and i wont be back to windows for a while
[03:20] <DigitalNinja> geforce nx7600
[03:20] <Vich> is the problem with Gaim crashing (seg fault) in the latest Ubuntu a known problem?
[03:20] <Vich> the only solution I've read is to upgrade Gaim
[03:21] <AfterDeath> oh wtf
[03:21] <RaV|Strangler> why wont it automatically connect to the wireless network
[03:21] <Vich> lol
[03:21] <AfterDeath> omt
[03:21] <Vich> I had so much trouble getting my computer to connect to the wireless network
[03:21] <DigitalNinja> jordan_: I get the following in my logs when booting: pcie_portdrv_probe->Dev[02fb:10de]  has invalid IRQ. Check vendor BIOS
[03:21] <Vich> :S
[03:21] <RaV|Strangler> :-(
[03:21] <cartufer> rav, cause there could be hidden or other networks
[03:21] <vzoric> hi are those http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyReleaseCandidate full releases of 6.10 ?
[03:21] <jvai> i hear u, i just upgraded to dapper last nyte from hoary, & java, works, & dvd play is less jumpy
[03:21] <RaV|Strangler> did you ever get it connected?
[03:21] <RaV|Strangler> my network it open
[03:21] <jordan_> DigitalNinja, Are you using the proprietary drivers?
[03:22] <speedy> edgy going to be released today?
[03:22] <Flannel> !ef
[03:22] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[03:22] <DigitalNinja> jordan_: Yup
[03:22] <marthy> yeah it looks like it
[03:22] <marthy> yay EDGY!
[03:22] <ashzilla> WHen does Edgy come out?
[03:22] <aztektum> it's out
[03:22] <aztektum> google it
[03:22] <vzoric> Flannel, and today we are? 26th !
[03:22] <DigitalNinja> jordan_: I'm using the card now. However, if I play a 3D game it locks up
[03:22] <LjL> !ef | ashzilla
[03:22] <ubotu> ashzilla: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[03:22] <marthy> today/tomorrow depending when you are
[03:22] <Flannel> vzoric: read the rest of the factoid
[03:22] <marthy> *where
[03:22] <phire_mIRC> I just can't wait
[03:22] <LjL> aztektum: no, it's not
[03:23] <aztektum> yeh i know
[03:23] <RaV|Strangler> vich how did you get it connected
[03:23] <jvai> will edgy be a smooth upgrade from dapper? not like from hoary to breezy?
[03:23] <vzoric> Flannel, then what is this on that url which i gave you
[03:23] <jordan_> DigitalNinja, I don't know to be honest, mabe somebody else can help
[03:23] <Flannel> jvai: you can upgrade with update-manager, painlessly (assuming everything goes well), yes.
[03:24] <Flannel> vzoric: those are release candidates, not finals.
[03:24] <Kawaii-Panda> jvai: i doubt that. i had to delete my old dapper partition just to install edgy beta. T_T
[03:24] <vzoric> Flannel, ahh ok, ty
[03:24] <azureal> yea, edgy is not out..
[03:24] <jvai> yeea, i hope using easyubuntu didnt add anything that may break during the upgrade to edgy
[03:24] <dustin> does anyone know if its possible to switch between metacity and beryl on the command line?
[03:24] <RaV|Strangler> can anyone share some insight on how I can get connected to my wireless network
[03:25] <azureal> er... easyubuntu is just what... codecs? lol
[03:25] <Flannel> RaV|Strangler: you try the wireless howto?
[03:25] <RaV|Strangler> where's that?
[03:25] <d-E-u-S> gn8
[03:25] <RaV|Strangler> ubuntu?
[03:25] <Flannel> !wireless
[03:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:25] <jvai> yea i think @ azureal
[03:25] <RaV|Strangler> thank you
[03:25] <vzoric> Flannel, do you know if i ship free cds do i need to pay shipment or its everything free?
[03:25] <Flannel> dustin: yes.  As to how, I have no idea.
[03:25] <DigitalNinja> jordan_: thanks
[03:26] <dustin> hmm ok
[03:26] <Flannel> vzoric: what? you mean shipit?  everything is free.
[03:26] <reiki> so ... does edgey have built-in compiz-like visual toys?
[03:26] <Flannel> dustin: you might try #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl
[03:26] <tempted> reiki:  yes
[03:26] <dustin> yea beryl is dead, ill try the other =) thanks
[03:26] <vzoric> Flannel, becouse it sounds pretty funny, nothing is free today :D
[03:26] <RaV|Strangler> I have to use another computer?
[03:26] <dustin> (ts just quiet i mean)
[03:26] <jordan_> reiki, sort of...
[03:26] <azureal> jvai, codecs will change how you view your video or listen to your audio, but they def. should not cause anything to break
[03:26] <Fujitsu> tempted: No...
[03:26] <jvai> kawwaii as is, would u use edgy in a work environment?
[03:26] <Flannel> reiki: they're not enabled by defult
[03:26] <azureal> anything system-related.
[03:26] <reiki> tempted: I was all happy cause I installed edgey into a VM on my 6.06 host.... forgot it uses the VM display driver :)
[03:27] <jvai> azureal.. i'll see soon...
[03:27] <nailer> reiki, hehe
[03:27] <tempted> reiki: don't know if you can do that... never tried
[03:27] <Kawaii-Panda> jvai: yeah - thats why i installed it. it looks so cool, and it hadnt broken yet for me.
[03:27] <azureal> that's actually one of the next things i need to do... play w/ easyubuntu =P
[03:27] <jvai> is it a fastr boot up/ shut down kawaii
[03:28] <Kawaii-Panda> yep
[03:28] <jvai> wow
[03:28] <Kawaii-Panda> the splash screen looks bad now though.
[03:28] <Kawaii-Panda> they changed it to silver.
[03:29] <jvai> i just got dapper in this box last nyte.... from hoary... it's more stable like
[03:29] <reiki> well... time for bed. I'll upgrade after work tomorrow and try to pop in here during the day at work to ask my dumb questions. :)
[03:29] <jvai> azureal.. easyubuntu is muuuch easier than bfore....
[03:30] <jvai> i got everything working on this t40
[03:30] <Fujitsu> Kawaii-Panda: Which splash screen are you referring to?
[03:30] <azureal> oh, i know.  i just need to spend a few minutes doing other things first.
[03:30] <Kawaii-Panda> the updated one.
[03:30] <azureal> like obtaining a font that's sort of like courier
[03:30] <Kawaii-Panda> the beta's original was still the brown splash.
[03:31] <Kawaii-Panda> *beta's original splash*
[03:31] <jvai> ok uall STARBUCK'S about to kick me out.. it's almost 10pm... see uall when i get home.
[03:32] <Fujitsu> Kawaii-Panda: They reverted to the Dapper artwork a while ago..
[03:32] <Kawaii-Panda> i dont know, fujitsu, but my splash screen just changed like that after an update notification.
[03:32] <InnerFIRE> does anyone use ekiga?
[03:33] <tony_> dose anyone knows how to install GD for PHP ???
[03:33] <Kawaii-Panda> the update also gave me some new screensavers, icons and a gdm theme along with it.
[03:33] <Fujitsu> tony_: Install php5-gd
[03:33] <tony_> THANKS
[03:35] <tony_> do i have to reboot inorder for php5-gd to take effect ??
[03:36] <dabaR> !hi
[03:36] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:36] <dibblego> why does my notebook sometimes never return from Suspend or sometimes when it does, a window will not open?
[03:37] <Fujitsu> tony_: No. Are you using Apache?
[03:37] <Tatey> !edgy
[03:37] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:37] <dabaR> dibblego: "a" window?
[03:37] <treedreamer> hey,everyone,is ubuntu edgy out ?
[03:37] <tony_> yes
[03:37] <Fujitsu> !edgyfinal
[03:37] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[03:37] <Fujitsu> tony_: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[03:37] <Fujitsu> tony_: That should fix it.
[03:37] <tony_> thanks will try now
[03:37] <dibblego> dabaR, yes, every time I try to open an application, the window never eventuates ("Starting application...")
[03:38] <specialbuddy> how do I find out how much space I left on my harddrive
[03:38] <tony_> Thanks, that worked well.
[03:38] <ehazlett> @specialbuddy df -h
[03:38] <dabaR> dibblego: maybe it does not support that suspend or sleep or whatever, did you look at its model's hardwaresupport wiki site?
[03:39] <dibblego> dabaR, nup :) I will
[03:39] <Fujitsu> tony_: no problem.
[03:39] <dabaR> dibblego: post the link here
[03:39] <specialbuddy> thanks
[03:39] <ehazlett> np
[03:39] <dibblego> dabaR, the link to what?
[03:40] <dabaR> to the wiki page for the laptop
[03:40] <dibblego> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell
[03:41] <sorush20> !edgy
[03:41] <dabaR> dibblego: which one?
[03:41] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:41] <dibblego> dabaR, Inspiron 6400
[03:41] <sorush20> is edgy out/
[03:42] <dabaR> ubotu, no edgy is read the topic, or go to #ubuntu+1
[03:42] <iratsu_> !schedule
[03:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:43] <kupesoft> What time can we expect the edgy release?
[03:43] <kupesoft> GMT, that is
[03:43] <ajmitch> kupesoft: when it's ready
[03:43] <sorush20> how can I opne .mdi files?
[03:43] <Fujitsu> !edgy
[03:43] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:44] <Fujitsu> !edgyfinal
[03:44] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[03:44] <Fujitsu> That's better.
[03:44] <kupesoft> >;
[03:44] <kupesoft> THEY SHOULD KNOW.  I'M ANXIOUS!
[03:44] <Fujitsu> !caps
[03:44] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:44] <sethk> kupesoft, you should always wait _at least_ two weeks after a release, not counting the hours.
[03:44] <sethk> kupesoft, what difference will edgy make to you?
[03:44] <laserline> what's the chmod command to chmod all my files and folders within a folder to 777
[03:44] <bimberi> Fujitsu: there's also an !ef alias :)
[03:44] <kupesoft> Philosphical difference,
[03:44] <Noah0504> I need a RSS aggregator that can download files embedded in the feed.  For example, Revision3 has vidcast feeds...
[03:45] <redcard> Not much of one, kupesoft
[03:45] <Kawaii-Panda> kupetsoft: dont forget the faster boot times
[03:45] <Fujitsu> laserline: chmod -R 777 whatever
[03:45] <sethk> laserline, you shouldn't use numbers.  chmod -R changes a directory and all its files
[03:45] <kupesoft> I need php5.1.6-cli
[03:45] <kupesoft> and python2.5
[03:45] <Fujitsu> sethk: Why not?
[03:45] <Kawaii-Panda> the livecd booted like thunder compared to the last one (about 15x faster, wild guess)
[03:45] <sethk> Fujitsu, because there are always issues with a new release.  let other people be the test animals
[03:45] <pluto_> Need some help with ISA sound card.. Please help.
[03:45] <sethk> kupesoft, you don't have to upgrade the entire distro just to get those two things
[03:45] <redcard> sethk: Personally, I'm liking it.
[03:45] <Fujitsu> sethk: I mean about not using numbers :P
[03:45] <laserline> sethk: what do you mean I shouldn't use numbers?
[03:46] <sethk> Fujitsu, oh, very bad practice.  error prone.  use the symbols, that's what they are for
[03:46] <sethk> laserline, a+rwx, for example
[03:46] <Fujitsu> I'd say symbols are more error prone.
[03:46] <sethk> Fujitsu, you'd be wrnog
[03:46] <sethk> wrong
[03:46] <Fujitsu> Easier to get 3 characters right than a lot more.
[03:46] <sethk> Fujitsu, not the typing, the calculating.
[03:47] <redcard> But what if I want rw for only user, but x for all three, sethk?
[03:47] <sethk> Fujitsu, one of the core principles of software engineering.  never use numbers
[03:47] <laserline> sethk: I'm still kinda new to Ubuntu... is there a doc that explains all these commands... chmod --help didn't really *help* that much :)
[03:47] <sethk> redcard, u+rw,a+x
[03:47] <Fujitsu> laserline: man chmod will be better, most likely.
[03:47] <ianmacgregor> redcard: chmod 755 file
[03:47] <dabaR> sethk: that is way mmore error prone...
[03:47] <redcard> sethk: But what if I'm such a pro that I automatically know what that is numerically?
[03:48] <specialbuddy> does anyone here have a good recommendation for a gaming laptop?
[03:48] <sethk> redcard, then you are deceiving yourself
[03:48] <redcard> sethk: No.  I think you're deceiving people.
[03:48] <specialbuddy> it might be off topic but I was thinking about getting a laptop
[03:48] <dabaR> redcard: ya, probably deceiving them
[03:48] <sethk> redcard, not at all.  go to any uni, ask any professor
[03:48] <Fujitsu> specialbuddy: It is offtopic, maybe try -offtopic.
[03:49] <redcard> Do it whatever way works best.  Understand that numerically is the standard, and that any other method might not be standard
[03:49] <laserline> specialbuddy: doesn't system76.com sell laptops?  Don't know howt hey are for games, but if I remember correctly the graphics card seemed to be decent
[03:49] <Fujitsu> sethk: I find the numbers vastly preferable. Quicker to type, more sensible, more definite.
[03:49] <sethk> Fujitsu, good thing you aren't working for me, I simply won't allow it.
[03:49] <specialbuddy> thanks laserline
[03:49] <ianmacgregor> Fujitsu: I agree
[03:49] <specialbuddy> I'll check it out
[03:49] <Fujitsu> sethk: You won't allow people to use a more concise, sensible form of a command?
[03:49] <redcard> sethk: I advise you to check out the code, then :)  It converts all those u+rw's and such to numbers.
[03:49] <redcard> And it always has :)
[03:49] <sethk> Fujitsu, absolutely not, when it is error prone.
[03:49] <sethk> redcard, of course it does
[03:50] <sethk> redcard, that's the entire point
[03:50] <sethk> redcard, you don't get it at _all_
[03:50] <Fujitsu> sethk: It is not error prone if you know what you're doing.
[03:50] <sethk> redcard, the program will convert it correctly.  that's why you use symbols
[03:50] <redcard> sethk: Oh.. so now you're insulting the intelligence of someone you've NEVER met.
[03:50] <sethk> Fujitsu, simply not true.
[03:50] <sethk> redcard, has nothing to do with intelligence
[03:50] <redcard> sethk: Then you're calling me ignorant?
[03:50] <sethk> redcard, no, just wrong
[03:51] <sethk> redcard, but that's ok, it's very common with younger sys admins.  they learn, eventually
[03:51] <redcard> sethk: You're cute.  How long have you been doing the linux thing?
[03:51] <dabaR> specialbuddy: check out the hardware support pages on the wiki
[03:51] <tritium> sethk: no, not any professor, only professors in C.S.
[03:51] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to find out what chipset my wireless card uses?
[03:51] <redcard> You sound very new at it.
[03:51] <ianmacgregor> Ok, let's all just use that which works for each of us. OK?     Final answer, do it whatever way works
[03:51] <specialbuddy> dabaR, on the system76 page?
[03:52] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to find out what chipset my wireless card uses?
[03:52] <LjL> !language | redcard
[03:52] <ubotu> redcard: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:52] <dibblego> SpudDogg, lspci
[03:52] <sethk> redcard, I have not insulted anyone, and it would really be best if you would restrain yourself.
[03:52] <Kawaii-Panda> its a matter of choice really, the numbers are faster to type and good when you are in a hurry, while the letters are easier to remember for beginners and preferable when you havent think of the number combinations first.
[03:52] <Crescendo> Is there a version of Ubuntu WITHOUT the LiveCD?
[03:52] <LjL> !alternate | Crescendo
[03:52] <ubotu> Crescendo: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:52] <sethk> Crescendo, there is the alternate install cd
[03:53] <dabaR> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:53] <dabaR> dibblego: looks like edgy has support for it.
[03:53] <dabaR> Fujitsu: buying a laptop to install ubuntu on it is offtopic?
[03:53] <dabaR> why is this channel so quiet few hours before edgy is released?
[03:53] <sethk> Crescendo, the previous version had the install separate from the live cd
[03:53] <Crescendo> Link to the Alternate?
[03:53] <Crescendo> Looking for the Dapper Version.
[03:53] <Fujitsu> dabaR, I believe so, it isn't Ubuntu support.
[03:53] <sethk> Crescendo, same places that have the others
[03:53] <LjL> Crescendo: same page as the main cd
[03:53] <redcard> dabaR: Because it's not a few hours shy of release ;)
[03:53] <Kawaii-Panda> dabaR: its called the quiet before the storm :)
[03:53] <dabaR> I was lagging...
[03:53] <sethk> Crescendo, there are three, server, live, and alternate
[03:53] <redcard> it could be any time zone :)
[03:53] <specialbuddy> edgy is being released?
[03:53] <dabaR> 5 mins.
[03:53] <LjL> yes, there's a bit of lag around
[03:53] <dabaR> so I was like, wth...
[03:54] <sethk> LjL, ther   e     i    s   ?
[03:54] <LjL> sethk, please remind me to tell you "yes" in about 10 minutes
[03:54] <ianmacgregor> LjL: lol
[03:55] <specialbuddy> is edgy going to be worth getting?
[03:55] <redcard> specialbuddy: Depends on what you want :)
[03:55] <specialbuddy> what is it going to have that is needed?
[03:55] <Fujitsu> specialbuddy: No. It's completely useless, that's why it's being released and there have been thousands of volunteer-hours spent on it.
[03:55] <redcard> specialbuddy: Just an upgrade :)
[03:56] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know what to look for in the lspci list to find out my wireless card's chipset?  All i see is intel, blah blah.  there is no name i reognize.
[03:56] <specialbuddy> why did they spend so much time on something useless Fujitsu
[03:56] <sethk> SpudDogg, you can put it on the paste site, and we can tell you.  usually the manufacturer and the model is all you need
[03:56] <Kawaii-Panda> specialbuddy: the faster bootup might be enough to get you to upgrade.
[03:56] <LeoStewart> Could someone tell me what I will need to do to dist upgrade?
[03:57] <redcard> There are a lot of things under the hood for Edgy.
[03:57] <Kawaii-Panda> and the fact that you get better upgraded, software
[03:57] <Kawaii-Panda> and firefox 2.0
[03:57] <dabaR> !upgrade
[03:57] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:57] <specialbuddy> it's going to have firefox 2
[03:57] <specialbuddy> nice
[03:57] <SpudDogg> sethk, all it says is ' Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 1092 (rev 02)'
[03:57] <LeoStewart> cheers, will take a look.
[03:57] <sethk> specialbuddy, releases happen periodically.  with the amount of software in a large distro, there are frequent updates to many things.
[03:57] <specialbuddy> so edgy is coming out tonight?
[03:57] <r080cy90r> what string i must insert in fstab file for have the permission for writing on my /opt/ mount point?????
[03:57] <SpudDogg> !pastebin
[03:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:57] <aBiNg> yeah
[03:57] <sethk> SpudDogg, I'll look that up for you, hold on, but that looks like a normal, not wireless, ethernet.
[03:57] <redcard> Tho firefox 2 doesn't have much that's really drawing me to it
[03:57] <sethk> SpudDogg, but let me check it.
[03:58] <sethk> redcard, some of the extensions I like aren't available for ff 2 yet, also.
[03:58] <Kawaii-Panda> redcard: it has lots. check out their website www.getfirefox.com
[03:58] <r080cy90r> hei there is someone who can give me hand????
[03:58] <zissan> hello i am waiting for ubuntu 6.10
[03:58] <redcard> I have, Kawaii-Panda .. I just haven't found things I like :P
[03:58] <dabaR> specialbuddy: tomorrow if you are in n.a.
[03:58] <Kawaii-Panda> im initially attracted to the search bar and the phishing filter
[03:59] <Kawaii-Panda> the new search bar is very maneuverable.
[03:59] <r080cy90r> pleaz
[03:59] <sethk> SpudDogg, that's the PRO/100 VE Network controller
[03:59] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: I guess I don't know what that means.
[03:59] <sethk> Kawaii-Panda, the filter is definitely interesting
[03:59] <r080cy90r> i become crazy pleaz
[03:59] <blazemonger> how much longer until edgy is released
[03:59] <specialbuddy> n. a.?
[03:59] <dabaR> r080cy90r: nice
[04:00] <r080cy90r> what string i must insert for have the permission for writing on my /opt/ mount point?????
[04:00] <Kawaii-Panda> and its based off the newer version of the mozilla engine(gecko) which means it's faster
[04:00] <dabaR> r080cy90r: insert where?
[04:00] <r080cy90r> if you know dabaR
[04:00] <SpudDogg> sethk, its a long list, but here is the complete.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28365/
[04:00] <dabaR> specialbuddy: north america
[04:00] <r080cy90r> in the fstab file
[04:00] <LeoStewart> I'm sure this question has been asked a lot tonight, but does anyone know when Edgy is supposed to be released?  As in, how many hours?
[04:00] <sethk> SpudDogg, I found the ethernet ID for you already.
[04:00] <specialbuddy> thats what I thought
[04:01] <bimberi> LeoStewart: no
[04:01] <Kawaii-Panda> the search bar is the little box you see in the top right corner, it kind of searches sites you select automatically with whatever you type there. in the new bar, you can actually edit the sites in there and arrange them however you like.
[04:01] <dabaR> r080cy90r: what are you mounting in /opt? A windows partition or what?
[04:01] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: Well, most of the "new features" were already present in Firefox 1.5 or were easily added with extensions, I guess..
[04:01] <sethk> SpudDogg, or do you have both wired and wireless, and aren't sure which is which?
[04:01] <SpudDogg> sethk, i need to know what chipset the internal wireless is using
[04:01] <LeoStewart> bimberi: alright, thanks.
[04:01] <blazemonger> LeoStewart:my birthday is on the day ubuntu edgy is released
[04:01] <sethk> SpudDogg, ok
[04:01] <dabaR> r080cy90r: and post your fstab to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:01] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: You could do that before..
[04:01] <SpudDogg> sethk, thank you for the help, by the way
[04:01] <r080cy90r> no i must put inside some files because i can't have the permission
[04:01] <LeoStewart> blazemonger: that's not really an answer to my question, but happy birthday all the same! :D
[04:01] <dabaR> r080cy90r: ya, I thought so
[04:02] <blazemonger> LeoStewat:i'm 34..heh..it's crazy how Ubuntu got famous so quick
[04:02] <Artemis3> my bday was yesterday T_T
[04:02] <r080cy90r> excuse me i'm italian can you let me understand in easy english
[04:02] <blazemonger> even a friend of mine that used to say "Linux sucks" he's even impressed with Ubuntu
[04:02] <Kawaii-Panda> yeah, i know. but i like it better now.
[04:02] <J_P> hi all
[04:03] <LeoStewart> blazemonger: yeah, I have no idea what convinced me to try Linux, but I'm definitely glad I did.
[04:03] <SpudDogg> sethk, sorry man, that list is in there twice
[04:03] <sethk> SpudDogg, the intel 1092 is definitely the wired interface.
[04:03] <r080cy90r> mi opt is only a piece of ext3 hd ... where i install my ubuntu dist
[04:03] <Kawaii-Panda> mostly because of the speedups, and the fact that i only need to install only 1 extension to suit my needs.
[04:03] <Kawaii-Panda> instead of the 5 i used ion 1.5
[04:03] <blazemonger> Leone:my friend is switching to it to contribute midi sequencing software to the open source world
[04:03] <J_P> today is release of ubuntu 6.10 right ?
[04:03] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: They didn't fix the memleak issue tho
[04:03] <dabaR> J_P: depends on where you are in the world
[04:03] <dob1> hi
[04:04] <J_P> dabaR: heheeh brazil
[04:04] <bimberi> J_P: if 'today' for you is Oct 26 then yes
[04:04] <Leone> what blazemonger
[04:04] <dob1> is easyubuntu a part of ubuntu or an external project ?
[04:04] <sethk> SpudDogg, the wireless is Intel 3945ABG
[04:04] <dabaR> Wed Oct 25 21:14:32 CDT 2006
[04:04] <J_P> yes 26
[04:04] <bimberi> dob1: external
[04:04] <r080cy90r> dabaR???
[04:04] <SpudDogg> sethk, yea i just found that...i'll google around
[04:04] <Kawaii-Panda> redcard: hmmm... probably never gonna be fixed. anyway, epiphany and other browsers are always around for low-memory systems.
[04:04] <SpudDogg> sethk, thank you for the help man!
[04:04] <sethk> SpudDogg, fairly new intel wireless chip.
[04:04] <J_P> well, but in large part of the world is 26 today, but ubuntu page yet are 6.0.6
[04:04] <dob1> bimberi: it will install deb package using the script?
[04:04] <dabaR> r080cy90r: mount it with the -ousers flag
[04:04] <sethk> SpudDogg, I think it's backward compatible with earlier intel, but don't quote me.
[04:04] <redcard> Epiphany actually uses the same gecko engine firefox does :)
[04:04] <bimberi> dob1: idk sorry, i've never used it
[04:05] <r080cy90r> can we speak in pvt im goin crazy here!!!!!
[04:05] <dob1> ok :)
[04:05] <redcard> So it meets my purpose.   I wish that browsers would stop trying to do RSS tho
[04:05] <dabaR> r080cy90r: or show us what your fstab file looks like, we will edit it for you to be proper, you can paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org. Relax
[04:06] <dabaR> !pm
[04:06] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[04:06] <sethk> redcard, why?  you don't need to use the RSS
[04:06] <SpudDogg> sethk, ok, i got it now.   for some reason, i assumed that would be using ralink, atheros, broadcom, etc...
[04:06] <sethk> SpudDogg, they are cheaper chips, so more common.
[04:06] <r080cy90r> ok now i paste in on that url
[04:06] <Kawaii-Panda> redcard: actually i like the rss integration, although i never use it, i redirect firefox rss i like to my bloglines account.
[04:06] <SpudDogg> sethk, the intel is cheaper?
[04:06] <sethk> SpudDogg, no, more expensive
[04:06] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: Yeah.. that could work.
[04:06] <sethk> SpudDogg, that's why you see more of the atheros, etc.
[04:07] <dabaR> paste the URL of the page your paste is on here, r080cy90r
[04:07] <r080cy90r> i don't understand
[04:07] <Kawaii-Panda> it should. bloglines made an extension to do that same day as 2.0 was released.
[04:07] <SpudDogg> sethk, am i wrong in thinking that the atheros cards are the best?  i know atheros is usually the best supported in linux.  also, do you know if the intel can be used for things like packet injection?
[04:08] <LeoStewart> After looking at the Ubuntu Wiki, could someone tell me the difference between "Upgrading using Update Manager" and "Upgrading using apt-get" ?
[04:08] <sethk> SpudDogg, I haven't used that particular intel chip, but the other intel chips can be used for injection and I'm sure this one can also.
[04:08] <redcard> LeoStewart: There isn't one, really
[04:08] <dabaR> LeoStewart: difference how? it is totally different, and that is why there are 2 guides.
[04:08] <sethk> SpudDogg, atheros support isn't even in the kernel distribution from kernel.org, its 3rd party
[04:08] <kmitch87> LeoStewart: update manager is just a gui for apt-get
[04:08] <phire_mIRC> somehow I don't think I'll get edgy by the end of today...
[04:08] <SpudDogg> sethk, would you happen to know where to get driver patches or whatever i need to use this card with the aircrack-ng suite?
[04:08] <sethk> SpudDogg, I prefer to stay with things in the mainline kernel distro, not because they are better, but because they are more tested.
[04:09] <r080cy90r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28366/
[04:09] <LeoStewart> Oh, well the "Update Manager" guide looks simpler... is this true?
[04:09] <mikm[laptop] > phire_mIRC It IS still the 25th in many places
[04:09] <dabaR> phire_mIRC: we won't let your ip update unless you change the mirc nick;P
[04:09] <r080cy90r> ok  now i understand
[04:09] <sethk> SpudDogg, not off hand.  I can ask some people at work tomorrow.
[04:09] <SpudDogg> sethk, dont worry man, i'll just google around
[04:09] <phire_mIRC> yes, but my day is quickly running out
[04:09] <sethk> SpudDogg, ok.  I'm working on a wireless modem for the last couple of months, so I haven't been following the chips closely
[04:09] <kmitch87> LeoStewart: yes, if you don't like the command line
[04:09] <ds5> wow.. ubuntu has a lot of idlers
[04:09] <redcard> Kawaii-Panda: I'll give bloglines a run :)  I've heard good things
[04:10] <r080cy90r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28366/
[04:10] <SpudDogg> sethk, well, thank you for all the help man
[04:10] <LeoStewart> kmitch87: cheers.
[04:10] <redcard> But I've always been afraid that something like that will go away
[04:10] <dabaR> r080cy90r: you do not have anything about the /opt mount point, nor the device, i.e. /dev/hdb1. Did you try mounting this before?
[04:10] <r080cy90r> fstab file  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28366/
[04:10] <NooZ> is any 'easy' trick on creating a partition ext3 on instalation in a Sata HDD ?
[04:10] <Kawaii-Panda> redcard: :D
[04:10] <dabaR> r080cy90r: don't repeat yourself within 3 minutes.
[04:10] <blazemonger> mm no particular date when edgy's released
[04:10] <Kawaii-Panda> whoa... what happened to my smiley :-$
[04:10] <sethk> NooZ, I don't know what you are asking.  It isn't difficult to do, but there aren't any tricks involved.
[04:10] <shah02> how can i map the super key (windows key) to ctrl+alt
[04:10] <r080cy90r> i must have the permission
[04:11] <r080cy90r> in mnt/hd1
[04:11] <r080cy90r> is the same
[04:11] <NooZ> ubuntu crash on install when he's creating the ext3
[04:11] <Kawaii-Panda> shah02: whyd you want to do that?
[04:11] <sethk> r080cy90r, to mount, modify fstab, etc., you need to be root.
[04:11] <r080cy90r> the important thing is i can write on it
[04:11] <sethk> NooZ, that's an SATA Problem, not anything specific to ext3
[04:11] <britt_> how can i watch tv on linux
[04:12] <sethk> NooZ, it's a lower level write problem with the SATA driver.
[04:12] <ds5> wow... an irc channel where real talk happens <3
[04:12] <shah02> Kawaii-Panda: simplicity, super+D is easier than ctrl+alt+d, etc etc, you get the idea
[04:12] <britt_> i need a program to config the tuner settings, mplayer doesnt work
[04:12] <r080cy90r> ok i must write gksudo ?????after
[04:12] <r080cy90r> before excuse
[04:12] <redcard> britt_: TvTime, I think..
[04:12] <sethk> r080cy90r, that's one way, yes
[04:12] <NooZ> sethk more fun is that I've install few weeks ago without any problem :o
[04:12] <r080cy90r> and then
[04:12] <britt_> gives me something to do till mythtv compiles
[04:12] <britt_> sigh...
[04:12] <r080cy90r> what i must modify in fstab file to have permission???
[04:12] <Kawaii-Panda> sethk: im using a SATA disk and it's filesystem is ext3, i dont find anything wrong with it...
[04:13] <condorito> good evening
[04:13] <sethk> NooZ, I've run into this before, and I see also that it is somewhat intermittent
[04:13] <dabaR> good evening
[04:13] <sethk> Kawaii-Panda, not all sata, the problem is specific to a chipset
[04:13] <condorito> i need some help
[04:13] <sethk> Kawaii-Panda, unfortunately it's the chipset in one of my motherboards  :)
[04:13] <britt_> DMA, how is it enabled at boot?
[04:13] <condorito> running cd live user
[04:13] <NooZ> my laptop sucks :p
[04:13] <condorito> on ubuntu 6.06
[04:13] <Kawaii-Panda> shah02
[04:13] <sethk> britt_, it's enabled by default.
[04:13] <sethk> britt_, it can be turned off in the BIOS on most machines
[04:14] <condorito> Buffer I/O error on device dm-4, logical block 6292943
[04:14] <condorito> 24/10/2006 09:58:29 p.m<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>4 8 15 16 23 42 + Execute
[04:14] <sethk> britt_, and there is a kernel boot argument that can be used to turn it off
[04:14] <sethk> britt_, and you can also modify the drive settings with smartctl and hdparm
[04:14] <Artemis3> redcard, i do that with mencoder (mplayer)
[04:14] <Kawaii-Panda> why not just change the shortcut keys to super/meta + d instead of mapping the win key to ctrl+alt?
[04:14] <sethk> britt_, what specifically do you need to do w.r.t. DMA?
[04:15] <redcard> Artemis3: I was thinkin bout that.  Mplayer and cron.
[04:15] <britt_> i need it for myth
[04:15] <redcard> The TV Card is actually a WinTV 350.. so..
[04:15] <britt_> why isnt my card working
[04:15] <britt_> i have a 150
[04:15] <sethk> condorito, you can try turning off dma, or slowing it down.
[04:15] <britt_> it picks it up and everything
[04:15] <britt_> i cant find any channels tho
[04:15] <britt_> on either card
[04:15] <redcard> britt_: Hmm.  I had problems with the 150.. I'd make sure you're using the right driver.
[04:15] <zoidberg> hey guys...i have a perl script that I have applied chmod to already....it works perfectly however i have to go to the directory where it is located to access it all the time....how can i add it universially so no matter which directory i am in i can run that script?
[04:15] <r080cy90r> heeeei are you died??
[04:15] <tritium> !enter > britt_
[04:16] <dabaR> condorito: what is that from, and what happens to your computer?
[04:16] <condorito> first i tried to run live user
[04:16] <[erisco] > I am looking for some sort of screen capturing software. As in video... like how they do the on-screen tutorials for programs and such. Anyone have some names?
[04:16] <condorito> and it was allright
[04:16] <sethk> zoidberg, either move it to a directory in your search path (such as /usr/bin), or add the directory where it lives to your search path
[04:16] <britt_> tritium: ??
[04:16] <condorito> i tried to enter internet, but didnt know how to so i switched to windows to find more information
[04:16] <sethk> zoidberg, run hash -r after moving it to update the search path caches on any already running shells
[04:16] <condorito> and i tried to run live cd again, and i couldnt
[04:16] <[erisco] > does anyone know what I mean? heh
[04:16] <condorito> that's the error i get
[04:17] <dabaR> r080cy90r: we have to know what to put in there for the mount point and the drive node. /opt/? /dev/hd??.
[04:17] <tritium> britt_: please use punctuation rather than hitting the enter key between sentences
[04:17] <sethk> condorito, you can try disabling dma during the install
[04:17] <ianmacgregor> [erisco] : Tried istanbul ?
[04:17] <condorito> i didnt install it yet
[04:17] <SpudDogg> sethk, would you happen to know how i can tell if this driver will work for what im trying to do?  http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/detail_desc.aspx?ProductID=2259&DwnldID=11200&agr=Y
[04:17] <condorito> how do i do it
[04:17] <sethk> SpudDogg, let me look
[04:17] <sethk> condorito, what were you doing when you get that error?
[04:17] <[erisco] > ianmacgregor, thanks! I'll give that a try!
[04:17] <sethk> condorito, not installing?
[04:18] <condorito> nothing, really. i was running as live user
[04:18] <condorito> using the cd
[04:18] <condorito> without installing
[04:18] <condorito> but needed to find some information
[04:18] <condorito> and i went back to windows
[04:18] <sethk> SpudDogg, looks good, yes.  I can't tell which kernel version it's tested against, though
[04:18] <condorito> and tried to get back to ubuntu and i get that error
[04:18] <condorito> nothing changed in my hardware
[04:19] <xiaoye> hello
[04:19] <sethk> condorito, possibly you have an intermittent problem with your memory.  I've seen machines run for months between errors of that type.
[04:19] <SpudDogg> sethk, so if i install that one, my WORST CASE is i'll have to reinstall ubuntu?  likely just to reinstall original drivers?
[04:20] <dabaR> condorito: have you tried testing the cd for errors? it is an option in the menu.
[04:20] <condorito> yes i did
[04:20] <sethk> SpudDogg, I can't imagine having to reinstall the entire o/s.
[04:20] <condorito> not a problem
[04:20] <moot_> clear
[04:20] <sethk> SpudDogg, back up /boot and /lib/modules
[04:20] <sethk> SpudDogg, and also /etc
[04:20] <moot_> oops
[04:20] <sethk> SpudDogg, then try it.
[04:20] <dabaR> condorito: what else have you tried?
[04:21] <sethk> condorito, that's not a media issue
[04:21] <SpudDogg> sethk, i just read in the readme that this driver supports kernel 2.6.13 or later.  im runnning 2.6.15-27
[04:21] <corevette> hey i have a question
[04:21] <sethk> that's an hardware error raised by the dma bridge
[04:21] <r080cy90r>  i think is only /opt/ because opt stay in the "/" is the file system mount understand???
[04:21] <sethk> SpudDogg, sounds good.
[04:21] <corevette> what is the thing on webistes that enables people to make usernames/passwords and stuff
[04:21] <condorito> cookies
[04:21] <dabaR> r080cy90r: no, where are you from?
[04:22] <sethk> SpudDogg, but, the "or later" isn't always true.  should be ok, though, for just a couple of minor version numbers, I'd go for it.
[04:22] <r080cy90r> italy
[04:22] <condorito> i am wondering why i was able to run the live cd the first time
[04:22] <r080cy90r> why????
[04:22] <dabaR> !it
[04:22] <sethk> condorito, intermittent problem
[04:22] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:22] <Tarantulafudge> How do you sever ssh connections from the server?
[04:22] <condorito> can you give me some advice on how to fix it?
[04:22] <nvoke> Can someone tell me how to enable my repositories ples?
[04:22] <drminime> Hey, i have an external hard drive that I just mounted and am using samba to share it.  I need to change the permissions, and chmod +w isn't doing it for me.  Any suggestions?  I am root while doing this.
[04:22] <condorito> i am a newbie (n00b) at linux, but i really hate windows
[04:23] <sethk> condorito, I'd run the memtest86 (assuming you are on x86 architecture)
[04:23] <Flannel> !repositories | nvoke
[04:23] <ubotu> nvoke: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:23] <r080cy90r> ok thank excuse me if i brake your balls friend bye
[04:23] <sethk> condorito, memtest86 is a separate, stand alone memory tester that is independent of linux or windows.
[04:23] <sethk> condorito, it is very good at finding intermittent memory problems.
[04:23] <condorito> ok i will run it
[04:24] <sethk> condorito, if you install ubuntu, memtest86 is also installed and added to your boot menu.  Is it on the live cd boot menu?  I'm not sure.
[04:24] <yadaman> hey, I'm getting a new comp soon and am thinking of installing linux on this one. is Ubuntu a good choice for beginners?
[04:24] <tritium> absolutely
[04:24] <sethk> yadaman, I think so, yes
[04:24] <condorito> no it is not
[04:24] <drminime> you bet
[04:24] <nvoke> I mean like, what file do I edit so apt-get works?
[04:24] <sethk> yadaman, what types of things are you going to do with it?
[04:24] <yadaman> I heard that it was from a good computing magazine I read, and was just asking here to make sure.
[04:24] <Phuzion> !freeformats
[04:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:24] <condorito> i meant
[04:24] <condorito> no the memtest is not in the menu
[04:25] <zoidberg> guys I have ubuntu running on an old PowerPC g3 powerbook....how do i configure video output...i want to connect it to another monitor...how can i display stuff on that monito or extend the desktop?
[04:25] <condorito> i downloaded it already
[04:25] <condorito> will try t
[04:25] <sethk> condorito, ok.
[04:25] <tritium> !enter > condorito
[04:25] <yadaman> I just wanted to try out linux and heard that Ubuntu was a good choice for beginners
[04:25] <blazemonger> i think it's good
[04:25] <sethk> yadaman, that's a true statement
[04:25] <SpudDogg> sethk, in the install instructions "First, we build and install the ieee80211 subsystem.  You can obtain the latest ieee80211 subsystem from http://ieee80211.sf.net.  We recommend version 1.1.12 or newer:"  What is that and is it necessary?
[04:25] <Kawaii-Panda> yadaman: it's the worst OS you will ever meet in your life when you want to play games, especially commercial ones.
[04:25] <drminime> again, i've got an external hard drive that i mounted and need to change the permissions so all users can write, chmod +x won't do it, no error msg.  any suggestions?
[04:25] <LeoStewart> yadaman: very true. :)
[04:25] <sethk> SpudDogg, let me look at that url
[04:26] <drminime> *chmod +w
[04:26] <blazemonger> well it's okay for emulator games, but it's not good for most commercial games imo
[04:26] <yadaman> Kawaii-Panda: that's why I'm gonna install it on this box when I get my new comp.
[04:26] <tritium> Kawaii-Panda: that's an exaggeration, for sure
[04:26] <blazemonger> for everything else ubuntu is good
[04:26] <sethk> SpudDogg, yes, you need it
[04:26] <SpudDogg> sethk, ok, cool
[04:26] <yadaman> Kawaii-Panda: since it's not really good for commercial stuff.
[04:26] <SpudDogg> sethk, you are the man.  thanks again
[04:26] <compilerwriter> Can someone help me sync my palm with ubuntu?  I am having no luck with what I am trying from what I can read in the forums.
[04:26] <sethk> SpudDogg, they've layered the wireless to separate out some common code.  similar concept to ndis
[04:26] <yadaman> I'm gonna put vista on my new box.
[04:26] <Phuzion> What is the version after dapper?
[04:27] <Phuzion> Edgy?
[04:27] <condorito> ok i downloaded memtest and i have here some sort of iso, but i dont see an executable file there
[04:27] <yadaman> I'm getting a free copy of Home Premium from a relative that works for microsoft
[04:27] <jrib> Phuzion: yes
[04:27] <Phuzion> Thanks
[04:27] <LeoStewart> Phuzio: yes. 6.10
[04:27] <jrib> Phuzion: after dapper, they go in abc order
[04:27] <sethk> compilerwriter, I've not had problems with my palm with ubuntu and the kde tools and pilot-link
[04:27] <xiaoye> when will the 6.10 release?
[04:27] <sethk> compilerwriter, what are you seeing?
[04:27] <jrib> !ef
[04:27] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[04:28] <compilerwriter> The connection could not be established.
[04:28] <blazemonger> thanks ubotu
[04:28] <stupidone> !ef
[04:28] <compilerwriter> sethk I have been using jpilot.
[04:28] <stupidone> you just thanked the bot
[04:28] <dabaR> tritium: ya, I played lots of games lately, with xmame you can play any game that was ever on arcade, if you download roms, that is:)
[04:28] <sethk> compilerwriter, is it a USB palm?  which one?
[04:28] <LeoStewart> ubotu does it again!
[04:28] <LeoStewart> ;)
[04:28] <ithiel> hello all
[04:28] <dob1> i am downloading dapper,  it will be substituted in few hours ?
[04:28] <compilerwriter> it is a zire21
[04:28] <compilerwriter> it is usb.
[04:29] <yadaman> I'm also thinking of making a website, anyone know what distro of linux is good for webservers so I can put it on a spare box I have?
[04:29] <azureal> is there a way to make my aptitude search results in color? (green if "i", for example?)
[04:29] <LeoStewart> dob1: yes.
[04:29] <condorito> do i need to boot with memtest
[04:29] <condorito> ?
[04:29] <tritium> yadaman: ubuntu is fine for that too
[04:29] <dob1> LeoStewart: ok i stop the download
[04:29] <Kawaii-Panda> yadaman: ubuntu is also available as a server.
[04:29] <blazemonger> i use ubuntu for music production
[04:29] <Flannel> dob1: sort of.  There will be a new version, but dapper is just as good, and a LTS.  So, it depends on what you want in your system.
[04:29] <dabaR> dob1: dapper has 5 years support on the server for example...the new desktop is coming out in a few hours.
[04:29] <sethk> compilerwriter, with the USB palms, there have been some issues with the device identifier.  There are two IDs, and the one you need to use to sync changes.
[04:29] <yadaman> heh, ubuntu is like the universal distro!
[04:29] <Kawaii-Panda> yadaman: check out the ubuntu site's download section :)
[04:29] <LeoStewart> dob1: well, it's up to you.
[04:29] <Phuzion> yadaman:  any linux distro will work
[04:29] <dob1> i want a desktop system
[04:29] <sethk> compilerwriter, as in ttyUSB0, ttyUSB1
[04:29] <yadaman> I'll just have to ask dad for his old un-used box then.
[04:30] <yadaman> then I can get my website on the net finally
[04:30] <dob1> is better that i download the new version then?
[04:30] <sethk> compilerwriter, I have two, one works with ttyUSB0, the other works with ttyUSB1, same palm o/s rev, etc.
[04:30] <blazemonger> yadaman : Ubuntu users are a alien-race hellbent on conquering planet Earth
[04:30] <teledyn> blazemonger: really?  what DAW do you use/recommend?
[04:30] <dennis__> anyone know if there is away or if it's possbile to convert .pl scripts to .deb
[04:30] <compilerwriter> sethk can we switch to private.  Much easier for me to follow.
[04:30] <dabaR> dob1: the iso can still come in handy
[04:30] <Phuzion> yadaman:  I'd personally suggest any that comes with a package manager, because it is a lot easier to insall LAMP without needing to compile everything on your own
[04:30] <ithiel> can anyone help me with my bcm43xx internal wifi card on my Dell Inspiron 600m?
[04:30] <blazemonger> i mostly use rosegarden and audacity
[04:30] <ithiel> !bcm43xx
[04:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:30] <dabaR> dennis__: it would likely be called packaging
[04:31] <dennis__> ah
[04:31] <teledyn> blazemonger: what about VST plugins?
[04:31] <dennis__> well ,I know there are tools like alien and checkinstall that do similar things.
[04:31] <blazemonger> i'e not figured that out yet but working on it
[04:31] <yadaman> heh... ubotu.
[04:31] <yadaman> that's clever.
[04:31] <dabaR> dennis__: google might know about debian new maintainer
[04:31] <Munchkinguy> With fedora core, one can install over both hard drives, so that the disk space of both of them can be used. Is there a way to do this with Ubuntu?
[04:32] <nekostar> do te do te dummm
[04:32] <Flannel> Munchkinguy: you want a RAID? or just to have partitions on both drives?
[04:32] <nekostar> anyone know how to export env variables
[04:32] <yadaman> ubotu... that's a great name. u-bot-u. ubuntu-bot.
[04:32] <yadaman> clever.
[04:32] <jrib> nekostar: with the 'export' command?
[04:32] <teledyn> Munchkinguy: that's not a raid, its using LVM
[04:32] <dabaR> nekostar: you answered your own question...
[04:32] <LeoStewart> yadaman: you don't miss a thing. ;)
[04:32] <nekostar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284562
[04:32] <Flannel> yadaman: take general chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[04:32] <nekostar> dabaR, jrib yeah...... thought i knew how but it hates me....
[04:32] <dabaR> nekostar: and you read the manual?
[04:33] <Phuzion> Haha, I just realized I was trying to use an Edgy repository on a Dapper machine
[04:33] <Phuzion> oops
[04:33] <nekostar> yup
[04:33] <nekostar> if you browse page four i think it was i showed the outputs
[04:33] <Rav|strangler> Thanks everyone
[04:33] <Phuzion> apt-get dist-upgrade after changing sources.list, right?
[04:33] <nekostar> lol Phuzion
[04:33] <Rav|strangler> I got connected to my wireless network
[04:33] <Phuzion> nekostar:  I changed my sources file, then forgot to actually run the update, lol
[04:33] <Munchkinguy> teledyn: See, there isn't enough room on my first hard drive to install Ubuntu and keep room for swap space.
[04:34] <Rav|strangler> too easy
[04:34] <Rav|strangler> :-D
[04:34] <teledyn> Munchkinguy: i'm not sure but i think ubuntu installer has lvm support.  i'd be surprised if it didn't
[04:34] <tritium> teledyn, Munchkinguy: it does
[04:34] <nekostar> Phuzion, is there an upgrade package to edgy yet?
[04:34] <Flannel> Munchkinguy, teledyn, the alternate CD has LVM support, however, you just sound like you want to spread the install over a few drives, which is perfectly doable
[04:34] <Phuzion> Not sure, I think so
[04:34] <Phuzion> I
[04:34] <Munchkinguy> Do I need the "alternative" CD for that?
[04:34] <teledyn> yeah pretty much all distros nowadays offer LVM options when setting up disks during install
[04:34] <Phuzion> I just ran apt-get dist-upgrade and it said all is well so far
[04:34] <nekostar> mmm
[04:35] <Phuzion> I thought Edgy was out for a while
[04:35] <teledyn> Munchkinguy: probably not
[04:35] <nekostar> i have ubuntu in here b/c im gonna try making this triple boot with xp / ubuntu / mac
[04:35] <nekostar> :P
[04:35] <nekostar> probably wont work ~_~
[04:35] <Phuzion> what type of computer?
[04:35] <Phuzion> mac pro or something?
[04:35] <teledyn> Phuzion: apt-get update first, then dist-upgrade
[04:35] <Phuzion> yeah, did that
[04:35] <Rav|strangler> wow neko
[04:35] <Phuzion> and it's just sitting there waiting for headers
[04:35] <Phuzion> So, I have no idea what to do
[04:36] <teledyn> Phuzion: and it didn't fetch anything?
[04:36] <Phuzion> I think the packages aren;'r released
[04:36] <Rav|strangler> your going to be ethuggin like me
[04:36] <Phuzion> It's just saying 0% waiting for headers
[04:36] <Munchkinguy> Does the alternate cd have a gui?
[04:36] <jbroome> no
[04:36] <tritium> Munchkinguy: text-mode
[04:36] <Phuzion> Oh, sweet
[04:36] <nekostar> os[Linux 2.6.15-23-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ @ 2.16GHz]  mem[Physical : 1011MB, 78.8% free]  disk[Total : 342.07GB, 7.80% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] ]  sound[Audigy2 - Audigy 2 [SB0240] ]
[04:36] <teledyn> Phuzion: well its - a - waiting...
[04:36] <Phuzion> Packages are downloading
[04:36] <Phuzion> Awesome
[04:36] <nekostar> thats my current info Phuzion
[04:36] <nekostar> sorry had to install xchat-xsys
[04:36] <nekostar> installed ubuntu like 4 am last night
[04:36] <nekostar> XD
[04:36] <Munchkinguy> tritium: like the breezy install cd?
[04:37] <Phuzion> nekostar:  Repping the 5200, nice
[04:37] <Flannel> Munchkinguy: exactly
[04:37] <teledyn> Phuzion: its slow for me right now too for some reason
[04:37] <tritium> Munchkinguy: yeah, based on debian-installer
[04:37] <Phuzion> It's a rather impressive card for its age
[04:37] <Rav|strangler> i thought linux didnt have to restart
[04:37] <nekostar> dude ive had that since it was bleeding edge and its served me well ^^;;
[04:37] <Phuzion> Hahaha
[04:37] <Phuzion> Same here
[04:37] <dabaR> tritium: there is a lot of people being totally offtopic...
[04:37] <Phuzion> That's on my computer upstairs though
[04:37] <Flannel> !offtopic
[04:37] <nekostar> Rav|strangler, well mostly when you do major upgrades like kernel stuff
[04:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:38] <Flannel> Guys, take the general chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:38] <nekostar> Flannel, having a bad day?
[04:38] <tritium> dabaR: you're right.
[04:38] <Rav|strangler> oh ok
[04:38] <nekostar> try #gentoo they like being rude to the users ^^;;
[04:38] <teledyn> Phuzion: you can always ctrl-c it and restart it to see if it connects faster
[04:38] <Rav|strangler> well brb gotta restart
[04:38] <nekostar> bbiab
[04:38] <Rav|strangler> lol
[04:38] <Phuzion> teledyn:  I said it;s getting packages
[04:38] <tritium> Please stay on topic, folks.  Thanks!
[04:38] <Flannel> nekostar: there's 900 people here, If everyone was chatting, it'd be really impossible for anyone to get any support
[04:38] <nekostar> Flannel, but they are not.
[04:38] <Phuzion> 916, get ya numberz straight, son
[04:39] <Phuzion> 917
[04:39] <dabaR> tritium: and there was this guy that was soo annoying:) I told him kthxbye, kinda...sent him to his language channel cause he asked understand??? and I did not at all, and he swore at me...:)
[04:39] <Phuzion> 918
[04:39] <Phuzion> 917, lol
[04:39] <teledyn> most of those people are just idling
[04:39] <Phuzion> alright, enough
[04:39] <teledyn> thank god
[04:39] <helloyo> could somebody please help me enable direct rendering with my radeon 9550?
[04:39] <nekostar> ~850 idleing lol
[04:39] <Phuzion> nekostar, wanna take it to offtopic
[04:39] <tritium> dabaR: sorry, can't catch them all
[04:39] <dabaR> tritium: ya, off course:)
[04:39] <nekostar> Phuzion, gotta try something for the reason i originally came in here... the thread in the forums i mentioned above
[04:39] <nekostar> bbaib'
[04:40] <Phuzion> is 100Kb/s slow for packages downloading?
[04:40] <LeoStewart> Are there admins in this room ever?
[04:40] <Phuzion> Rarely
[04:40] <dabaR> tritium: they are not so much kickable as just incoherent. if you read what nekostar said alltogether...and his forum page...
[04:40] <teledyn> Phuzion: not really
[04:40] <Phuzion> The people that have ops in here generally don't op themselves unless they need to use them
[04:40] <Phuzion> That way they don't get bothered with OMG SOMEONE IS LYING TO ME or something stupid like that
[04:40] <LeoStewart> Phuzion: ahh.
[04:40] <Kawaii-Panda> i wont really call it idling, i for one just wants to learn some stuff new, and help when im needed.
[04:41] <teledyn> that's 800Mbps or little more than half T1 which isn't bad
[04:41] <tritium> LeoStewart: we try to watch as best we can
[04:41] <LeoStewart> tritium: I take it you're an admin?
[04:41] <dabaR> teledyn: there are lots, /msg ubotu ops
[04:41] <tritium> LeoStewart: yes
[04:41] <teledyn> dabaR: ?
[04:41] <perkin> hello everybody
[04:42] <dabaR> teledyn: pah, sorry.
[04:42] <LeoStewart> tritium: cheers. ;)
[04:42] <helloyo> enable direct rendering help anyone?
[04:42] <Phuzion> So, I just got a free set of Bose speakers
[04:42] <Phuzion> oops, wrong channel, lol
[04:42] <perkin> excuse me people, i have a doubt about shipit and Edgy eft: will Canonical ship Cds of Edgy Eft?
[04:42] <tritium> LeoStewart: hi :)  Welcome to #ubuntu.  It's not the ops that make the channel great.  It's the users here in the channel.  They rock!
[04:42] <Phuzion> Yes
[04:42] <Munchkinguy> perkin: no
[04:42] <Flannel> perkin: of couse they will
[04:43] <Munchkinguy> what?
[04:43] <Munchkinguy> I was told not
[04:43] <perkin> Munchkinguy: i don't know, because i've heard that they won't ship cds anymore
[04:43] <Phuzion> I was not told not, so I'm going to assume the answer is yes
[04:43] <thcrw8383> What is it like updating Ubuntu to Edgy ?
[04:43] <dabaR> thcrw8383: /msg ubotu upgrade
[04:43] <perkin> wow, so our plans are going to fall down very quicky
[04:43] <Munchkinguy> Perkin: http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/shipit-will-not-take-orders-for-edgy-eft/
[04:44] <teledyn> thcrw8383: pretty non-eventful
[04:44] <wastrel> Shipit will continue sending out dapper LTS
[04:44] <perkin> ok, thanks..
[04:44] <thcrw8383> Is it hard to do,I hear it a good 700 MB
[04:44] <tritium> thcrw8383: about, yes
[04:44] <perkin> so we'll have to burn thousands of Cds in Mendoza, Argentina
[04:45] <zoidberg> does anyone know how to work an external monitor with a laptop
[04:45] <zoidberg> ?
[04:45] <Munchkinguy> perkin: They will ship cds, but not Edgy Eft.
[04:45] <tritium> zoidberg: just like any other
[04:45] <dabaR> Munchkinguy: man, after reading what shuttleworth says about what an eft is, I don't feel like upgrading to edgy:)
[04:45] <Phuzion> perkin: set up an Ubuntu reposiitory on a gigabit network
[04:45] <Artemis3> what is an eft?
[04:45] <zoidberg> tritium: how?
[04:45] <thcrw8383> If I stay with dapper,will I continue to recieve updates,like major ones,like a new release of the Gnome desktop?
[04:45] <tritium> zoidberg: are you trying to do dual-head setup, or what?
[04:45] <teledyn> Artemis3: what the hell are any of these bizarre names they use?  i never heard of any of them?
[04:46] <Flannel> thcrw8383: no.  the gnome version is fixed per release
[04:46] <Phuzion> thcrw8383:  What reasons are you considering not upgrading?
[04:46] <Munchkinguy> thcrw8383: The desktop will not be updates, but you will recieve security releases
[04:46] <Sebastian_> what is new in the new gnome ?
[04:46] <[erisco] > instanbul crashed on me, and if I open a new one, it closes... leaving the crashed one... "running"
[04:46] <babo> Guys, does anyone know how to convert a string like this ... into UTF-8 ?
[04:46] <Artemis3> hmm i think they appear in books of animals ^^;
[04:46] <babo> =?euc-kr?B?RW1wbG95bWVudCBPcHB
[04:46] <[erisco] > how do I kill the process?
[04:46] <thcrw8383> Im on dial-up,upgrading will be hell
[04:46] <Flannel> !eft
[04:46] <ubotu> eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt or try !edgy
[04:46] <Munchkinguy> dabaR: This is Canonical thinking about business: 6.06 was long term support for a reason
[04:47] <LeoStewart> !edgy
[04:47] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:47] <Phuzion> [ericso] :  ps aux | grep istanbul then kill the pid number
[04:47] <Artemis3> see?
[04:47] <teledyn> what is a drake then?
[04:47] <zoidberg> tritium: well that would be nice...like an extended desktop but if i could get it to work with just one external montior without the laptop monitor that would be fine too
[04:47] <LeoStewart> let me try!
[04:47] <Artemis3> a duck?
[04:47] <LeoStewart> !drake
[04:47] <tritium> !xinerama > zoidberg
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <LeoStewart> shoot...
[04:47] <teledyn> haha
[04:47] <Phuzion> !dapper
[04:47] <Artemis3> hahaha
[04:47] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[04:47] <teledyn> sucker
[04:47] <tritium> zoidberg: what video chip does yoru laptop have?
[04:47] <Munchkinguy> thcrw8383: you can always buy a cd
[04:47] <SpudDogg> sethk, i think this driver and the IEEE80211 stuff if too much for me
[04:47] <LeoStewart> Artemis3: yes, a drake is a male duck.
[04:48] <zoidberg> i think its ati3dragepro or something
[04:48] <Artemis3> tehehe
[04:48] <[erisco] > Phuzion, which one is the "pid"?
[04:48] <thcrw8383> so,if I have dapper,and I recieve a eft CD,i can get my updates through that?
[04:48] <sethk> SpudDogg, why?  having problems building?
[04:48] <Phuzion> process id number
[04:48] <SpudDogg> sethk, to say the least
[04:48] <zoidberg> tritium: btw its a powerpc g3 powerbook...old...and i'm running badger on it...works better
[04:48] <tritium> zoidberg: oh, okay.  ati?
[04:48] <Phuzion> [ericso[:  second column
[04:48] <Phuzion> [ericso] :  second column
[04:48] <sethk> SpudDogg, well, you know, I write drivers, so it's second nature to me, but it can be trying.
[04:49] <sethk> SpudDogg, you might want to try with the exact kernel version they mentioned on the intel driver web page
[04:49] <zoidberg> tritium: yes
[04:49] <Munchkinguy> Sebastian_: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/notes/C/rnfrontpage.html
[04:49] <LeoStewart> Artemis3: In case you were wondering, a fawn, as in Feisty Fawn, is a young deer. ;)
[04:49] <[erisco] > Phuzion, I am seeing this: 7830  0.0  0.0   2880   804 pts/0    S+   22:47   0:00 grep instanbul
[04:49] <sethk> SpudDogg, but we often have to fix thing up in code we get from intel
[04:49] <dabaR> thcrw8383: you could upgrade, reinstall...
[04:49] <Phuzion> don't bother
[04:49] <Phuzion> it's not there
[04:49] <Artemis3> ^^!
[04:49] <Sebastian_> Munchkinguy: thanks man
[04:49] <Munchkinguy> teledyn: or a dragon
[04:49] <tritium> zoidberg: you can setup dual-head without xinerama too.  "man radeon" for details on what options you need
[04:49] <Artemis3> so thats what it was ^^;
[04:49] <[erisco] > so, now what? heh
[04:49] <Phuzion> no idea,
[04:50] <Phuzion> I'm kinda like the first aid here, now you have to go a little deeper
[04:50] <[erisco] > no other way to kill a dead process?
[04:50] <Munchkinguy> Sebastian_: you're welcome
[04:50] <Phuzion> If it doesn't exist, then you can't rea;lly kill it
[04:50] <Phuzion> But we might have been searching for the wrong thing, I have no clue
[04:50] <sasuk3> haha tru
[04:50] <perkin> yes, they have very good reasons for not to ship Edgy Eft, the work they made with Dapper is great
[04:50] <Phuzion> I don't know what istanbul shows up as in the ps aux menu
[04:50] <thcrw8383> I cant re-install,Dial-up is a pain in the a**,Re-installing means a re-format,which means losing everything,and I do NOT want to take the risk
[04:50] <MadCowBoy> Whats the definition of a 'troll
[04:50] <[erisco] > lol, I just did it through the GUI system manager ;)
[04:50] <MadCowBoy> with regards to forums or IRC
[04:51] <[erisco] > way for GUI
[04:51] <sasuk3> GUI system manager
[04:51] <sasuk3> wow xD
[04:51] <Phuzion> MadCowBoy:  Someone who just goes in and flames
[04:51] <Phuzion> No actual contribution
[04:51] <n8k99> !troll
[04:51] <MadCowBoy> thx
[04:51] <dabaR> thcrw8383: I said that as an option in addition to upgrading
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <sasuk3> troll = linus torvalds
[04:51] <MadCowBoy> lol
[04:51] <Kawaii-Panda> blasphemy
[04:51] <Kawaii-Panda> troll = linus torvalds?
[04:52] <sasuk3> ea
[04:52] <dabaR> tritium: ...
[04:52] <Kawaii-Panda> how?
[04:52] <dabaR> tritium: sorry
[04:52] <[erisco] > !instanbul
[04:52] <Kawaii-Panda> ...
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about instanbul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <[erisco] > thanks anyways ubotu
[04:52] <zoidberg> tritium: the video card i have is not radeon...its ATI 3drage pro
[04:53] <thcrw8383> Last question,If I decide to upgrade,can I download the upgrade as I go? (pausing it regularly)
[04:53] <Phuzion> I'd suggest just doing an overnight kind of thing
[04:53] <n8k99> trolls generally are disagreable and argumentative for reasons that are highly irrelevant to the conversation or discussion at hand
[04:53] <[erisco] > !pid
[04:53] <tritium> zoidberg: yes, but if you use the "ati" driver for X.org, you can use radeon options
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <dabaR> n8k99: or the just send messages irrelevant to ubotu tech support like you.
[04:53] <K-en> Hello.
[04:53] <sasuk3> PID PROCESS ID
[04:53] <dabaR> n8k99: the unintentional troll:)
[04:54] <n8k99> dabaR: answering MadCowBoy's question, thank you
[04:54] <sasuk3> btw [erisco]  dont get inlove with ubotu is just a bot :)
[04:54] <n8k99> :)
[04:54] <Rav|strangler> can anyone tell me how to make the terminal transperent
[04:54] <MadCowBoy> I work mostly with php, but also sometimes with asp, can anyone suggest a way I could host asp pages accessing mdb's without relying on a windows box please?
[04:55] <teledyn> apt-get install dict dict-gcide dict-jargon dict-foldoc; dict troll
[04:55] <dabaR> n8k99: answer that one
[04:55] <K-en> MadCowBoy: I use Beryl + glx and I have the ability to make certain windows semi-transparent: enough to see the window content behind them.
[04:55] <yadaman> question. all the times I've tried Linux before, it was supposed to automatically install a dual-boot program, which it didn't, and I'm wondering... Is Ubuntu gonna pull some crap loke that?
[04:55] <K-en> It's a nice piece of eye-candy but i've found it has a lot of practical application for me, too, as a newbie windows user.
[04:56] <sasuk3> Rav|strangler on terminal preferences :D
[04:56] <n8k99> is not asp a M$ proprietary solution that can only be reverse engineered to work under Linux servers
[04:56] <MadCowBoy> K-en, wasn;t my question but thanks I like beryl :)
[04:56] <Rav|strangler> ye ai just saw it :-]
[04:56] <jano_l77> hi i'm new
[04:56] <khaije1> edgy is scheduled for release in about an hour isn't it?
[04:56] <tritium> yadaman: it will install grub, which will allow you to dual-boot
[04:56] <K-en> Yadaman: Ubuntu is my first Linux distro and i've had no problems with dual-booting. I had Windows XP installed first and GRUB automatically configured for me.
[04:56] <MadCowBoy> hi jano_l77
[04:57] <Munchkinguy> Welcome, jano_l77.
[04:57] <MadCowBoy> asp anyone?
[04:57] <jano_l77> ubuntu is the best
[04:57] <sasuk3> i made a shell on asp is COoL
[04:57] <K-en> Rav|strangler: (second time lucky) I use Beryl + glx and I have the ability to make certain windows semi-transparent: enough to see the window content behind them.
[04:57] <dabaR> MadCowBoy: what have you tried so far?
[04:58] <MadCowBoy> configuring apache::asp, but haven;t looked into how I'll access the .mdb
[04:58] <sasuk3> MadCowBoy u are on ubuntu channel.. :D
[04:58] <mpee> !schedule
[04:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.   You can also "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" once you've done so.
[05:01] <zoidberg> tritium: sorry....what do u mean by hotswitching...would i have to reboot?
[05:01] <Sebastian_> what is bitchX?
[05:01] <sasuk3> MadCowBoy u ask about asp working with mdb on ubuntu channel.. :P
[05:01] <phire_mIRC> irc clinet
[05:01] <sasuk3> thats what i mean :p
[05:01] <khaije1> mpee: me too, isn't this the place to ask? i would expect more anticipation, but it seems like business as usual
[05:01] <godtvisken> Kawaii-Panda: but i mean for dapper
[05:02] <tj__> zoidberg: messing w/ xorg.conf isn't that bad, just be sure to back up often, and then just edit ti all you like
[05:02] <tritium> zoidberg: I don't have an iBook, but it should have a hotkey combination for switching between LCD and external display
[05:02] <khaije1> maybe everyone is already on an RC
[05:02] <deshantm> !edgy
[05:02] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:02] <khaije1> :-)
[05:02] <teledyn> Sebastian_: highly modified version of ircii
[05:02] <deshantm> !schedule
[05:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:02] <Sebastian_> thx
[05:03] <K-en> Hm, I do have a question. My console (ctrl+alt+F#) doesn't display. It simply goes to a blank screen.
[05:04] <[erisco] > does anyone have any other solutions to this instanbul?
[05:04] <mpee> khaije1: exactly, although I guess all the devs are busy doing real work rather than sitting on irc :)
[05:04] <[erisco] > it has crashed every time I have used it :(
[05:04] <AfterDeath> K-en: does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[05:04] <mpee> [erisco] : what's this instanbul thing?
[05:04] <AfterDeath> K-en: if not, make sure that the entries are in inittab
[05:04] <[erisco] > hold on
[05:04] <tritium> mpee: apt-cache show istanbul, and you'll see :)
[05:04] <sasuk3> K-en BLANK screen?? or white screen LoL
[05:04] <K-en> AfterDeath: Well, it switches to a blank screen but the console doesn't actually appear. It just remains blank.
[05:05] <K-en> Sasuk3: Blank, black screen,.
[05:05] <AfterDeath> K-en: check inittab
[05:05] <sasuk3> ah..
[05:05] <sasuk3> dont get the prompt
[05:05] <mpee> ah that thing
[05:06] <K-en> Sasuk3: That would probably be a more coherent expression. I don't get the prompt.
[05:06] <tj__> what is the edgy release date?
[05:06] <LeoStewart> !ef
[05:06] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:06] <RancidLM> hey all i just got a new monitor, and my xorg is all messed up.. what is the command for ubuntu to re-detect the best settings for the monitor?
[05:07] <aj-reyes> debconf?
[05:07] <[erisco] > instanbul records your desktop. it is really "buggy" though, it sometimes works, and most times crashes
[05:07] <[erisco] > does a really junky job with the mouse too
[05:07] <Sebastian_> Will kubuntu edgy be available today too?
[05:07] <mpee> coolblade, I might not install it then
[05:08] <teledyn> RancidLM: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:08] <CppIsWeird> how do i ls and have it pause on the list when it fills the winodw and wait for me to press continue
[05:08] <RancidLM> teledyn: thanks!
[05:08] <billsfamtorque33> CppIsWeird: ls | more
[05:08] <globe> CppIsWeird: man ls
[05:08] <deshantm> OR: CppIsWeird ls | less
[05:08] <[erisco] > oh, and firefox has been crashing a lot with flash =(
[05:08] <mpee> ok, work to do, see you ubuntitos
[05:09] <DigitalNinja> is anyone out there using either an epox motherboard or a msi nx7600 video card
[05:09] <grndslm> do any of the ubuntu cds (desktop or alternate) respond to usb keyboards on bootup??
[05:09] <Sebastian_> I'm having some problems with youtube videos out of sync in firefox and flock. Any solution?
[05:10] <CppIsWeird> any way to get it to continue in list for and not be item for item enter
[05:10] <Tatey> Sebastian_: using flash9?
[05:10] <LeoStewart> Firefox crashes with some Java applications, like Java-IRC chat clients.  It also loads quite slowly while browsing.  Is this normal?
[05:10] <aj-reyes> no usb for me
[05:10] <Sebastian_> tatey: is it available for download already?
[05:10] <aj-reyes> Im pretty usb keyboard is a grub thing, cause it dont work therye either
[05:10] <globe> CppIsWeird: ? say that again...
[05:10] <K-en> LeoStewart: My experience with Java is that it slows everything down. This may just be my bad luck, though.
[05:10] <DigitalNinja> Maybe I should start simple
[05:11] <CppIsWeird> globe: like dir -o-p-a-w
[05:11] <DigitalNinja> Does Linux work with pci express video cards
[05:11] <tritium> sure does
[05:11] <grndslm> aj-reyes, the cd boots with grub?  interesting
[05:11] <globe> CppIsWeird: ? sorry...its been too long, whats o, a do?
[05:11] <Tatey> Sebastian_: no, but you can manually install it. There is a bug with the Flash 7 plugin and audio syncing
[05:11] <LeoStewart> K-en: yeah, same here.
[05:11] <teledyn> DigitalNinja: go to xorg's website and see if the card is supported
[05:11] <Sebastian_> tatey: thank you. is it available in the adobe page?
[05:12] <deshantm> !flash
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:12] <Tatey> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:12] <CppIsWeird> like i want it to do what it does accept every time the list takes more then a page of terminal, to pause for enter, without having to hit enter for every item listed passed the view point]
[05:12] <DigitalNinja> teledyn: Thanks! That's the one plcae I havn't been yet
[05:12] <K-en> AfterDeath: I'm looking at the inittab, and things look alright, although i'll be honest and admit I'm not sure what they'd look like if they weren't.
[05:13] <Tatey> close firefox, go into ~/.mozilla/plugins and remove the flash.so and .xpt file and then copy over the new one. Done
[05:13] <Sebastian_> tatey: thank you very much
[05:13] <globe> CppIsWeird: how do you want it to resume after its pauses?
[05:13] <grndslm> anybody know why after both dapper and edgy desktop cds are almost about to display x & gnome, that the monitor would just say: "D-SUB:  Can not display this mode"
[05:13] <globe> CppIsWeird: I see the problem.  hit space
[05:13] <Tatey> grndslm: it may not be detecing your frequencies properly, try booting with "Safe Graphics Mode"
[05:14] <grndslm> Tatey, kk...brb
[05:14] <fluvvell> grndslm, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <grndslm> fluvvell, it's the installation cd
[05:14] <noex> Anyone have a minute to help me figure out a sound problem I am experiancing with Enemy Territory. I have wiki'd, faq'd, google'd and tested.... without any luck...  Does "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" mean anything to anyone? My desktop sound is working, as well as a game like Frozen Bubbles.
[05:14] <fluvvell> grndslm, yup, do it in tty1.  ctrl-alt-f1
[05:14] <Tatey> noex: make sure you close any application that is using the sound device
[05:14] <grndslm> Tatey, oh yea...my usb keyboards don't work!!
[05:15] <aztektum> bah. whats the command line way to find where a program is installed
[05:15] <globe> grndslm: invest in a $3 usb->ps/2 converter ;-)
[05:15] <Tatey> grndslm: they should, got a PS/2 keyboard you can plugin?
[05:15] <aztektum> starts with w
[05:15] <noex> Tatey: I have attempted that. Although, I can run Amarok and Frozen Bubbles at the same time without any sound issues.
[05:15] <aztektum> i think
[05:15] <noex> Tatey: Any other ideas?
[05:15] <Tatey> aztektum: $ whereis programname
[05:15] <aztektum> yeh yeh
[05:15] <aztektum> thx
[05:15] <grndslm> invest in a usb->ps/2 converter??  seriously??
[05:15] <CppIsWeird> how do i use find to find an executeable with "vnc" in the name?
[05:15] <globe> CppIsWeird: did that make it do what you want?
[05:16] <Tatey> noex: Enemy Terroritory might use OSS, and not ALSA. OSS doesn't like sharing the device
[05:16] <grndslm> what's up with linux not being able to detect usb keyboards???
[05:16] <CppIsWeird> globe, i have no idea, im getting exceedingly pissed at googles inability to find shit on what i search for
[05:16] <globe> CppIsWeird: just like dos.  ls *vnc* | more
[05:16] <tritium> CppIsWeird: you can also use "dpkg -L <packagename>" to list the files in a package
[05:16] <brian98> CppIsWeird, locate *vnc*
[05:16] <Tatey> CppIsWeird: your best bet would be to $ find /usr/bin/ | grep vpn
[05:16] <brian98> CppIsWeird, find / -name *vnc*
[05:16] <DigitalNinja> x.org doesn't have any information on cards that are supported
[05:16] <noex> Tatey: I picked up the OSS-ALAS wrapper and that didn't do the trick sadly. Any suggestions of things to try?
[05:16] <fluvvell> aztektum
[05:17] <DigitalNinja> is there another site I can go to that has information on video cards that are supported.
[05:17] <Tatey> noex: I use to get a similar issue when I had my music player open, when I closed my music player then reopened the game, it worked perfectly
[05:17] <tritium> What card do you have, DigitalNinja?
[05:17] <fluvvell> grndslm, im using a usb keyboard now...
[05:17] <DigitalNinja> msi nx7600
[05:17] <globe> CppIsWeird: what are you googling?
[05:17] <tritium> DigitalNinja: is that based on an nvidia 7600?
[05:17] <Tatey> DigitalNinja: is that an nvidia chipset? If so, it's fully supported.
[05:17] <JNeverMind> ive been having a prob with 6.06 do you know what time 6.10 iso will be available for dl from ubuntu.com ?
[05:17] <grndslm> fluvvell, try using an installation cd already!
[05:17] <DigitalNinja> NVIDIA
[05:17] <noex> Tatey: Mmm, doesn't seem to be that easy for me. I have dropped my music player and ran ET.. I still receive the same "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy."
[05:17] <tritium> DigitalNinja: okay, fully supported :)
[05:18] <smoked1> I installed paintshop pro 7 using wine but for some reason when I try to launch the app all I get is the splash screen. Can someone help me?
[05:18] <Tatey> !finaledgy
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about finaledgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <Tatey> !edgyfinal
[05:18] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:18] <DigitalNinja> tritium: It doens't work well on my epox motherboard. It lockes up
[05:18] <tritium> DigitalNinja: with which driver?
[05:18] <fluvvell> gndslm, it shouldn't make any diff but if you're desperate, ...
[05:18] <Munchkinguy> teledyn, tritium, Flannel: thank you for the LVM help
[05:18] <JNeverMind> thanks guys
[05:18] <ZeN> Hi, I'm trying to get Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory to work, but I get no video.
[05:18] <globe> does gnome keep a log of what modules it loads/fails to load somewhere?
[05:18] <Tatey> noex: beyond that, I'm not entirely sure. Try the Ubuntuforums.org
[05:19] <tritium> Munchkinguy: :)
[05:19] <DigitalNinja> tritium: the nvidia driver
[05:19] <Tatey> globe: no, but you can check dmesg
[05:19] <noex> Tatey: Been there, done that.. Thanks though!
[05:19] <ZeN> When the game starts, I see the cursor for a little, but then the screen goes black
[05:19] <globe> Tatey: sounds good.  how might I do that ?
[05:19] <tritium> DigitalNinja: "nv" or "nvidia"?
[05:19] <ZeN> I know its still running though
[05:19] <ZeN> because I hear the music.
[05:19] <DigitalNinja> tritium: nvidia
[05:19] <vertana> nvidia
[05:19] <Tatey> globe: $ dmesg
[05:19] <fluvvell> grndslm, is it just that the detection process means its loading things off the cd and takes a lot longer than you expect?
[05:19] <globe> Tatey: :-)
[05:19] <DigitalNinja> tritium: I ran glxinfo and it says I have direct rendering
[05:20] <tritium> DigitalNinja: did you look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:20] <DigitalNinja> tritium: However, the system locks up any way
[05:20] <Rav|strangler> how would I scheldule a shutdown?
[05:20] <Tatey> $ sudo shutdown -h X
[05:20] <Tatey> where X = minutes
[05:20] <DigitalNinja> tritium: Yup! not sure what I'm looking for but I didn't see any big error messages.
[05:20] <Tatey> for an immediate shutdown, you can use "now"
[05:21] <Rav|strangler> thanks you
[05:21] <globe> Tatey: okay.  so thats about 1000 lines.  cant I use grep to search it or something?
[05:21] <smoked1> could someone at least tell me where wine stores its log files?
[05:21] <Flannel> Rav|strangler: time can either be an offset (like, 1 hour from now) or an actual time
[05:21] <grndslm> fluvvell, i've tried using 6.06.1 & 6.10... desktop & alternate....all 4 DO NOT respond to usb keyboards...the only way i can get them to work is let the desktop cds automatically boot, but then i get that graphics error
[05:21] <smoked1> Are they in /var/messages?
[05:21] <vertana> Tatey: Could you enter a time such as "shutdown -h 16:00"?
[05:21] <Tatey> globe: sure can, though the logfile is in chronological order so anything recent will appear last. Otherwise, grep is great. $ dmesg | grep <the module you're looking for>
[05:22] <globe> Tatey: bah! I forgot the |
[05:22] <ZeN> could someone help me with a video? problem. not quite sure the problem.
[05:22] <Flannel> vertana: yes
[05:22] <[erisco] > lol, how do I stop instanbul from speeding all my movies up to no end?
[05:22] <nailbags> i want to use firefox to open html/jpeg/etc attachments in mutt. it works, but only if firefox isn't already running. if firefox is already running, the 'firefox-bin %s' command in my mailcap file returns instantly and mutt deletes the attachment out of /tmp before firefox has a chance to load it. any ideas?
[05:22] <Tatey> vertana: yes, you can do $ sudo shutdown -h time hh:mm
[05:22] <fluvvell> grndslm, I'm using 6.06, and yes its an installed copy.  A long shot, but do you need to enable legacy usb in the bios if you are expecting a usb keyboard to work before the os is fully booted?
[05:23] <globe> Tatey: you are a rockstar helper my friend....10 people at once
[05:23] <vertana> and the minutes would be in the 24 hours clock I assume?
[05:23] <globe> vertana: ... hours?
[05:23] <[erisco] > if I type normally it looks like I can type 500 words a minute here lol
[05:23] <vertana> clock* hours*.... whichever ^^
[05:23] <grndslm> ok...i found a ps/2 keyboard in my roommate's room, but i'm still getting the "D-SUB:  Can not display this mode" error after using the "safe graphics mode"
[05:24] <[erisco] > gotta be a way to slow 'er down!
[05:24] <nailbags> no mutt users in the house?
[05:24] <grndslm> fluvvell, i can access the bios with the usb keyboards...so, no i don't need to enable legacy usb....it's just the ubuntu installers
[05:24] <fluvvell> grndslm, and once the cd is fully booted, you can reconfigure the graphics with  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but you'll need to do it on a console
[05:24] <compilerwriter> Anyone else have any ideas on a zire 21 and synching?
[05:24] <Tatey> vertana: no, in minutes. For example, $ sudo shutdown -h 30 would halt my system in 30 minutes. If you want to use seconds you can specify with t. $ sudo shutdown -h -t 60 would halt my system in 60 seconds
[05:24] <Tatey> globe: heh, thanks. Doing what I can :)
[05:25] <Tatey> grndslm: what's the model of the display? Is it fairly new?
[05:25] <CppIsWeird> what is the vnc server called? i need to restart the server
[05:25] <RhiNo> Hello
[05:25] <grndslm> Tatey, yes a dell 2405fpw
[05:25] <RhiNo> can someone help me get my wireless conenction to work?
[05:25] <Tatey> if all else fails, you could grab the alternate CD, which performs a text-based install.
[05:25] <RhiNo> i talked to someone they told me to come here cause he was going to bed now
[05:25] <globe> Are thery any openGL programmers in here?  I cannot get my programs to display ... "Unable to create direct context rendering ..."
[05:25] <Tatey> grndslm: it's possible that X is unable to correctly detect your frequencies, I'd suggest the text-based install. It's just as easy (and faster) than the GUI live CD
[05:26] <phire_mIRC> RhiNo: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[05:26] <grndslm> Tatey...oh yea, i forgot i had a ps/2 keyboard to work with the alternate install now...GRACIAS!!
[05:26] <RhiNo> linksys
[05:26] <Tatey> CppIsWeird: look in /etc/init.d for something that matches vnc
[05:26] <phire_mIRC> does ubuntu reconise it?
[05:26] <music_man_nz> is edgy out yet?
[05:26] <RhiNo> wpc54g v 1.2
[05:26] <[erisco] > the more FPS the faster is plays it? lol
[05:26] <Tatey> music_man_nz: not quite
[05:26] <music_man_nz> ack
[05:26] <music_man_nz> when?
[05:27] <RhiNo> i installed ndiswrapper
[05:27] <grndslm> music_man_nz...how'd you hear about edgy?
[05:27] <Tatey> CppIsWeird: when you find it, simply run $ sudo /etc/init.d/nameofscript restart
[05:27] <music_man_nz> around the place...
[05:27] <RhiNo> then the wireless card as far as i know
[05:27] <Tatey> !edgyfinal
[05:27] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:27] <RhiNo> then i did sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:27] <RhiNo> but it still wont connect
[05:27] <music_man_nz> well the thing is
[05:27] <Boelcke> Greetings, all.  If I'm making an rsync backup of my /home, why do I want to include the hidden directories?
[05:28] <fluvvell> music_man_nz, as in   en zed, country?
[05:28] <globe> Boelcke: because they usually contain settings for programs and such
[05:28] <Tatey> Boelcke: why, or how?
[05:28] <music_man_nz> I can't remove an item from the menu. The program has been deleted, but still comes up under "Other"
[05:28] <[erisco] > any other screen recorders OTHER than instanbul?
[05:28] <music_man_nz> NZ - New Zealand
[05:28] <Boelcke> globe, yeah, but if I'm just interested in backing up my stuff, I wouldn't want that, right?
[05:28] <phire_mIRC> music man nz: me too
[05:28] <koko775> i'm running firefox 2, but upon loading a new page, in most cases (for some reason except for google) FF's screen doesn't refresh and I have to resize the text to get it to refresh
[05:28] <RhiNo> pm me if ur tryin to help me there is a crap load of talking in here lol
[05:28] <[erisco] > istanbul*
[05:28] <godtvisken> Is Ubuntu 6.10 already out?
[05:28] <Tatey> grndslm: no
[05:28] <jbroome> no
[05:28] <Tatey> sorry, godtvisken
[05:28] <fluvvell> music_man_nz, ah a fellow kiwi.
[05:28] <jbroome> it'll be in the topic when it's out, trust me
[05:28] <globe> Boelcke: I would take them, but that might just be a personal thing
[05:28] <Boelcke> I'm thinking of, if my system blows up, I'll probably re-install ubuntu anyway -- I just want my data, files, pictures, etc.
[05:29] <music_man_nz> Yay go kiwis!
[05:29] <music_man_nz> I'm in Wellington
[05:29] <Boelcke> globe, ok, but when restoring a system, would you copy them into your new home?
[05:29] <koko775> i tried it both with edgy's firefox package and a nightly i downloaded -- same problem
[05:29] <Tatey> Aussies > Kiwi's ;)
[05:29] <jbroome> i'm in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:29] <leonel> any ETA for tomorrow's release ?
[05:29] <globe> Boelcke: sure, but any customized settings would be gone.
[05:29] <koko775> can anyone help me?
[05:29] <music_man_nz> lol
[05:29] <jbroome> go there
[05:29] <music_man_nz> Kiwis >>>>>>>>>>> Aussies
[05:29] <koko775> i installed Beryl, perhaps that's messing firefox up?
[05:29] <phire_mIRC> RhiNo, I don't know anything about Ndiswrapper, sorry. You could try loiking here http://antonym.org/node/89
[05:29] <godtvisken> Is Ubuntu 6.10 already out?
[05:30] <tritium> music_man_nz:, Tatey: stay on topic, please
[05:30] <jbroome> NO
[05:30] <tritium> no, godtvisken
[05:30] <godtvisken> tritium: when comes it out?
[05:30] <Flannel> !ef
[05:30] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:30] <Tatey> tritium: I apologise
[05:30] <Boelcke> globe, I guess I'm really asking whether I'm backing up some files, or backing up enough stuff to easily restore my system, eh?
[05:30] <tritium> Tatey: no worries
[05:30] <jbroome> out it comes on 26th
[05:30] <koko775> hello?
[05:30] <koko775> can anyone help?
[05:30] <tritium> godtvisken: soon!
[05:30] <grndslm> why don't you goobers look at distrowatch.com or the friggin' ubuntu.com homepage for pete's sake!?!?!?!?
[05:30] <godtvisken> sorry i not mean to be rude
[05:30] <globe> Boelcke: yep.
[05:30] <tritium> be nice, grndslm
[05:30] <RhiNo> can someone pm me and help me?
[05:31] <koko775> um, not being able to use firefox kind of decreases my productivity :<
[05:31] <grndslm> godtvisken, i'm sorry....you're not a goober
[05:31] <vertana> Does anybody know what will change from Edgy Eft Beta to Edgy Eft Final (tomorrow)?
[05:31] <jbinder> !schedule
[05:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:31] <globe> koko775: why cannot you use ff?
[05:31] <godtvisken> grndslm: what means goober?
[05:31] <Tatey> vertana: probably nothing
[05:31] <Boelcke> globe, ok, then one more question: If I'm going for the "whole system" backup, I guess there are other dirs I'd want to include too, right?
[05:31] <CppIsWeird> tatey: nothing matches VNC
[05:31] <koko775> globe: because the screen won't refresh, i have to press ctrl-minus to get it to refresh
[05:31] <koko775> er, the page in ff
[05:31] <koko775> won't refresh
[05:31] <vertana> Well just smack me down Tatey :P
[05:31] <koko775> the title changes
[05:31] <grndslm> godtvisken, i'm honestly not sure....try typing "define:goober" into google
[05:32] <koko775> and it doesn't update the display for whatever reason
[05:32] <fluvvell> music_man_nz, are you using Edgy, or Dpper?
[05:32] <fluvvell> Dapper
[05:32] <koko775> i just installed edgy and on top of it, beryl
[05:32] <globe> Boelcke: probably, but I couldnt tell you what the are.  /home/ is probably where most of your files are, unless you compulsively save somewhere else
[05:32] <globe> koko775: is it a problem with ff or xwindows
[05:33] <Boelcke> Thanks.
[05:33] <globe> Boelcke: sure
[05:33] <koko775> how do i tell?
[05:33] <globe> koko775: do other programs not refresh?
[05:33] <koko775> well, epiphany works fine
[05:34] <globe> koko775: I would bet that the problem is not ff, but somewhere in you video card drivers
[05:34] <koko775> i'm using the computer right now, with xchat
[05:34] <CppIsWeird> what is the vnc server called? i need to restart the server
[05:34] <lasindi> Hi everyone, is there a specific time when Edgy will be released? (I ask since it's October 26 in certain timezones.)
[05:34] <calamari> hi
[05:34] <globe> koko775: but thats a bet
[05:34] <phire_NZ> !ef
[05:34] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:34] <globe> CppIsWeird: ps -la,
[05:34] <lasindi> Ah
[05:34] <pixelPOET> hullo, all!
[05:34] <phire_NZ> hello
[05:35] <Born_In_Xixax> koko775: might try either making sure your video driver is the latest/greatest, or changing it to something vanilla like vesa
[05:35] <lasindi> phire_NZ: out of curiosity, who finalizes it for download?
[05:35] <grndslm> umm....so i've got a strange question....i got this fancy shmancy new 320gb sata hd and i plugged it in....but when it's plugged in the bios always freezes at "Detecting IDE drives..." even tho it's not an ide drive, and reboots a few minutes later....and when the sata hd is unplugged, the bios works perfectly. WHAT GIVES?!?
[05:35] <La_PaRCa> Hey. How do I get apt-get to ignore a dependency that is not installable?
[05:35] <CppIsWeird> globe, that didnt do anything useful
[05:35] <globe> CppIsWeird: that will list all the processes, then you should be able to find what vncserver you are using
[05:35] <phire_NZ> lasindi: no idea
[05:35] <koko775> Born_In_Xixax: it is the latest/greatest, and i'm reluctant to disable acceleration since that would probably cripple beryl
[05:35] <calamari> anyone know how to use the cups interface?  I don't know what to use for username and password
[05:35] <RancidLM> hey all, so i just got this new LG monitor and set up the resolution to the 1680x1050  but all the text looks horible im not sure if its my xorg configurations but is there a way to make the readible? thnx
[05:35] <Born_In_Xixax> koko775: at least it would confirm that it's a video driver issue
[05:36] <koko775> doesn't epiphany use the gecko rendering engine? there's no reason that ff should be specifically targeted :/
[05:36] <koko775> true
[05:36] <koko775> i'll try it without starting beryl
[05:36] <Born_In_Xixax> not sure if there is any way to change the way FF uses video accel...probably not :/
[05:36] <Born_In_Xixax> use Opera :)
[05:36] <koko775> brb or bbl depending on what happens
[05:36] <CppIsWeird> i do not see any reference to it in there
[05:36] <globe> koko775: good luck
[05:36] <phire_NZ> La_PaRCa: I'm no expert, but --force might work, however it might mess some things up
[05:36] <McGragger> i am crashing around every 10 minutes, i think it is beryl, how do i know for sure
[05:37] <Born_In_Xixax> disable beryl?
[05:37] <grndslm> McGragger, try removing beryl and see if you're still crashing
[05:37] <RhiNo> Can someone please help me get my wireless network set up i have installed ndiswrapper and my network card is linksys wireless g (wpc45g ver 1.2)
[05:37] <koko775> hmm
[05:37] <McGragger> i said that wrong, i am pretty sure it is, or a combination of things
[05:37] <globe> RhiNo: does the card work with ndiswrapper?
[05:37] <koko775> with beryl disabled, still the same problem
[05:37] <Born_In_Xixax> RhiNo: have you run 'ndiswrapper -i yourfile.inf'  ?
[05:37] <GhostFreeman> Any plans to bundle Zfone in Edgy>
[05:37] <RhiNo> yes
[05:38] <RhiNo> im pretty sure i have
[05:38] <tritium> GhostFreeman: no, too late for any additions to edgy
[05:38] <Born_In_Xixax> so the card does not appear at all under the network manager?
[05:38] <RhiNo> i was talking to someone else then he had to go
[05:38] <globe> RhiNo: what are you trying to do now....can you establish a connection?
[05:38] <McGragger> how do i look at system logs to diagnose the problem?
[05:38] <RhiNo> yes it does as eth1
[05:38] <RhiNo> it will connect if i hook it up via ethernet
[05:38] <Kawaii-Panda>  /var/log?
[05:38] <RhiNo> but if i try the wireless i cannot get it
[05:38] <RhiNo> which is how i want it since it is my laptop
[05:38] <Demonic> Hey everyone
[05:39] <phire_NZ> McGragger: they are in /var/log/
[05:39] <Born_In_Xixax> RhiNo: dapper or edgy?
[05:39] <RhiNo> huh
[05:39] <Kawaii-Panda> im sure they are, phire.
[05:39] <GhostFreeman> thanks tritium
[05:39] <globe> RhiNo: what ubuntu are you using?
[05:39] <Born_In_Xixax> Ubuntu 6.04 or 6.10 ?
[05:39] <RhiNo> not sure
[05:39] <RhiNo> how do i find out
[05:39] <Flannel> RhiNo: lsb_release -a
[05:39] <Born_In_Xixax> help, about?
[05:39] <Kawaii-Panda> does your firefox icon have a fox?
[05:39] <RhiNo> 6.06
[05:39] <RhiNo> drapper
[05:39] <McGragger> phire_NZ: and what might I look for?
[05:40] <rabbitonly> ?
[05:40] <grndslm> umm....so i've got a strange question....i got this fancy shmancy new 320gb sata hd and i plugged it in....but when it's plugged in the bios always freezes at "Detecting IDE drives..." even tho it's not an ide drive, and reboots a few minutes later....and when the sata hd is unplugged, the bios works perfectly. WHAT GIVES?!?
[05:40] <lainproliant> hello :)
[05:40] <snooky> hi all
[05:40] <RhiNo> ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS drapper
[05:40] <Born_In_Xixax> if you do 'ifconfig' does the eth device appear to have an IP address and all that?
[05:40] <poningru> !ef
[05:40] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:40] <snooky> i dont really good speak english but i have a problem
[05:40] <lainproliant> i have a Anjuta related question
[05:40] <globe> grndslm: I would probably start with the mobo manufacturers w/s, or google
[05:40] <poningru> snooky: whatup?
[05:40] <RhiNo> if i do ifconfig it only shows "lo"
[05:40] <RhiNo> if i do ifconfig -a
[05:41] <Flannel> snooky: what language?
[05:41] <snooky> german
[05:41] <Flannel> !de
[05:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:41] <Milpool> is there anyone here who can possibly help me with my beryl/xgl
[05:41] <RhiNo> it shows under eth1 no ip
[05:41] <RhiNo> which is where it should be
[05:41] <Munchkinguy> goodnight
[05:41] <Toma-> Milbot: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:41] <Born_In_Xixax> what happens when you do 'sudo ifup eth1'  ?
[05:41] <snooky> at #ubuntu-de all sleep
[05:41] <globe> RhiNo: $ iwconfig
[05:41] <Flannel> snooky: alright, was worth a try ;)
[05:41] <lainproliant> is anyone here good with automake? ^_^
[05:42] <Milpool> sorry there was no one answering in there and thought i would try here
[05:42] <brian98> any nagios guru?
[05:42] <brian98> gurus even
[05:42] <RhiNo> if i do sudo ifup eth1
[05:42] <snooky> i winat configure djplay, but by ./configure i become a error => configure: error: QTDIR must be properly set.
[05:42] <RhiNo> it says interface eth1 already configured
[05:42] <RhiNo> im using web 128 bit encryption
[05:43] <Born_In_Xixax> RhiNo: sorry, that's all the stuff I know :/
[05:43] <RhiNo> 26 hex digits
[05:43] <RhiNo> oh
[05:43] <globe> RhiNo: you will need to use iwconfig
[05:43] <zoidberg> hey...does anyone know why with MSN messenger in GAIM...it gives me an "error with switchboard" when i try to message someone
[05:43] <RhiNo> ok i did iwconfig
[05:43] <lainproliant> hmm
[05:43] <brian98> RhiNo, turn off all encryption , get it working
[05:43] <RhiNo> ok
[05:43] <lainproliant> i have gotten that before zoidberg
[05:43] <globe> RhiNo: I don't remember the syntax, but if you man iwconfig it will have all the quirks
[05:43] <brian98> RhiNo, turn off all encryption , then put your encryption back on
[05:44] <carthik> I have a dell inspiron 6400 and can't get a high res display - i have tried the usual tricks, I use the vesa driver. I have added a modeline and yet it does not start with a higher resolution. any help is welcome
[05:44] <RhiNo> do i leave wep key blank?
[05:44] <lainproliant> i am not sure what causes it but its only temporary in my case
[05:44] <RhiNo> if i do it with all encryption
[05:44] <zoidberg> lainproliant: so should i log out and try again or something?
[05:44] <lainproliant> yeah that might work
[05:44] <globe> RhiNo: yes, if you use no encryption, leave wep key blank
[05:44] <RhiNo> ok
[05:44] <RhiNo> also ive noticed
[05:45] <RhiNo> when i activate eth1 which is wireless
[05:45] <lainproliant> any programmers ? ^_^
[05:45] <Flannel> snooky: do you have the right qt -dev libraries installed?
[05:45] <RhiNo> i click ok and such then reopen the network settings
[05:45] <lainproliant> i need help getting my Anjuta working
[05:45] <RhiNo> its not active anymore
[05:45] <brian98> no one into nagios then
[05:45] <Born_In_Xixax> carthik: have you tried 'sudo dpkh-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:45] <brian98> not to worry
[05:45] <mikm[laptop] > dpkg
[05:45] <carthik> Born_In_Xixax: yes, I have
[05:45] <Born_In_Xixax> 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure...'
[05:45] <Megaqwerty> when I'm using firefox, the audio from anything done in flash is way out of sync with the video. Is that just a problem with flash 7, or is my computer not configured correctly?
[05:45] <digiKnighter> edgy eft , when ?
[05:45] <LeoStewart> !ef
[05:45] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:45] <snooky> Flannel yes
[05:45] <globe> wow...talk about the question of the day!
[05:45] <carthik> I have tried that, I have tried all the things I have known to work in the past..  this totally beats me.
[05:45] <Born_In_Xixax> carthik: k...first couple of times I used it, I did not realize you have to specifically select the resolution modes to make available, by putting a star next to each one...
[05:45] <LeoStewart> I'm getting the hang of these little factoid things...
[05:46] <carthik> Born_In_Xixax: yup, did that.
[05:46] <Kawaii-Panda> edgy +1, when?
[05:46] <Flannel> Megaqwerty: it's a common flash7 issue, you could try flash9
[05:46] <brian98> Well, I'm running edgy and I just got a ton of updates ;)
[05:46] <Megaqwerty> Flannel: thanks
[05:46] <carthik> Kawaii-Panda: april 18th or something like that
[05:46] <brian98> so...
[05:46] <Flannel> Megaqwerty: see !flash9 for the deb ;)
[05:46] <RhiNo> i cant get wireless working without encryption either
[05:46] <Kawaii-Panda> cool... right in time for april fools! :)
[05:46] <globe> RhiNo: what are you doing to get it working?
[05:46] <Megaqwerty> brain98: interesting, I should check my update manager as well....
[05:46] <RhiNo> i went to config it
[05:47] <RhiNo> i mean properties
[05:47] <RhiNo> and set the essid
[05:47] <RhiNo> and dchp
[05:47] <RhiNo> then activated eth1
[05:47] <tritium> !enter
[05:47] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:47] <Megaqwerty> whoa yeah, brian98 is correct.
[05:48] <globe> RhiNo: k. lets try this from the terminal.
[05:48] <RhiNo> ok
[05:48] <Born_In_Xixax> carthik: I assume you've found this how-to link: http://individual.utoronto.ca/jaelle_kitty/inspiron6400/H
[05:48] <RhiNo> globe can u pm me?
[05:48] <RhiNo> easier to follow in a pm lol
[05:49] <lainproliant> Anyone here good with Anjuta?
[05:49] <RhiNo> but if not i do now have terminal open
[05:49] <edgy> Hi, I have an edgy chroot system that I want to turn into a fully bootable system now so I cp -a all the files to a new partition and now want to install grub on that partition. How should I convince the mbr to read the new one?
[05:49] <fwit> Anders are you there
[05:49] <globe> RhiNo: join #RhiNo-gl0be
[05:49] <fwit> nvm
[05:49] <Flannel> edgy: install grub to the MBR
[05:49] <Flannel> !tell edgy about grub
[05:50] <four> could someone tell me the command to mount a drive at start up
[05:50] <four> network drive
[05:50] <four> my mistaker
[05:51] <brian98> ntfs?
[05:51] <four> ya
[05:51] <Toma-> nfs?
[05:51] <Flannel> !samba
[05:51] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:51] <edgy> Flannel: thx a lot I am reading now ...
[05:51] <four> i use i use sudo mount -t smbfs //server/e //home/four/test   taht to mount it
[05:51] <mattSta> how can i use my ipod shuffle in ubuntu
[05:51] <four> but someone toldme i could auto mout it
[05:52] <Omicron> morning all.
[05:52] <AdelaideLuke> four: Example: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdaX /media/X
[05:52] <Megaqwerty> is there a blog or something like that on the status of being able to write to ntfs?
[05:52] <Tatey> NTFS has full read/write support as of 2.6.18
[05:52] <four> adelaideluke: that will moun it at start up?
[05:52] <mattSta> can someone out there please help me upload songs from my computer to my ipod
[05:53] <four> well its a nework drive
[05:53] <four> is the thing
[05:53] <Megaqwerty> Tatey: is that a kernel version?
[05:53] <Born_In_Xixax> Megaqwerty: in the Ubuntu forums (ubuntuforums.org) there is a HowTo on how to enable NTFS read/write
[05:53] <Tatey> mattSta: might want to check out Quod Libet or GTKpod
[05:53] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[05:53] <Tatey> mattSta: yes, that's the latest stable kernel version
[05:53] <calamari> Tatey: full?  you mean it can modify files and change their size?
[05:53] <Omicron> Triade, R U out there??
[05:53] <Tatey> calamari: yes, the NTFS-3G drive has been merged into the main tree (2.6.18)
[05:53] <calamari> cool
[05:54] <AdelaideLuke> four... no you have to add the command to your etc/fstab file
[05:54] <four> thanks
[05:54] <Omicron> Guess not.
[05:54] <idel> Hi all, has someone a mplayer1RC1 precompiled deb package? I am trying by myself but the sound doesn't work :(
[05:54] <Omicron> Bye
[05:54] <Siph0n> hey, what is this driver for: mrv8k driver ?
[05:55] <mattSta> im having problems with packeges, something about lilypond-data
[05:56] <nilats> how do you optimize the sources.list file?
[05:56] <nilats> to put the fastest resps first, delete duplicates etc
[05:56] <Megaqwerty> Born_In_Xixax: it says that it is in beta. Am I looking at the wrong howto?
[05:56] <mattSta> im having problems with packeges, something about lilypond-data
[05:57] <Leone> whats the kernel i must install to ubuntu breezy?
[05:57] <AdelaideLuke> Does anyone know if 6.10 is being released today?
[05:57] <Tatey> !edgyfinal
[05:57] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[05:58] <meat`2> is there an app i can use on ubuntu to remote access a windows machine?
[05:58] <Kawaii-Panda> idea: why not put the answer to the question of the day (when will edgy arrive) as the default welcome message for this chatroom?
[05:58] <tritium> meat`2: yes, and it's already installed for you under Applications->Internet
[05:58] <edgy> meat`2: I guess vnc
[05:58] <ianmacgregor> meat`2: Yes, it's called nautilus :)
[05:59] <Maczimus> no- i think he means the terminal client
[05:59] <ianmacgregor> Ahh, ok
[05:59] <Maczimus> it has a remote desktop option
[05:59] <meat`2> yeah something like vnc
[05:59] <Maczimus> yeah you can do vnc ssh and the like with it
[06:00] <edgy> meat`2: vino e.g
[06:00] <aztektum> what's the command to restart GDM from the CLI
[06:00] <rooly> does anyone have an faq or a howto for the ubuntu server?
[06:01] <ClayG> I saw a good one on a site
[06:01] <Megaqwerty> I am looking at a howto on NTFS for linux, and it says that it is still in beta. Is this correct? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=Ntfs
[06:01] <ClayG> for a webserver? or installing with the "server" arguement?
[06:01] <rooly> for a webserver
[06:01] <rooly> the server installer package
[06:02] <AdelaideLuke> Megaqwerty: I believe so. Reading NTFS drives is ok, writting is still a slight issue (i had none, however)...
[06:03] <ClayG> I know if you use ther server install it just means it will install the base, no x-windows stuff like that
[06:03] <ClayG> but there is a good howto on how to make it a full blown webserver, similar to cpanel
[06:03] <Maczimus> yeah that was a suprise...
[06:04] <Maczimus> trying to figure out how to download webmin....prolly have to use wget
[06:04] <Megaqwerty> AdelaideLuke: Okay, thanks. I don't want to chance it unless it is totally safe, as I would be transferring files from my computer to different computers (running windows) on my network. The people who use them wouldn't be happy if I messed up their HD :-P Thanks.
[06:04] <Maczimus> on server that is
[06:04] <Siph0n> how can i check which chipset my wireless card uses? cause im not sure if i should be using the madwifi or ndiswrapper drivers
[06:04] <Born_In_Xixax> Megaqwerty: if you are transferring files over the network, you will be using Samba, which is going to be safe
[06:05] <rooly> i'm stupid enough to attempt a linux webserver without much experience with unix os's at all
[06:05] <Born_In_Xixax> NTFS read/write is a method to do so to NTFS partitions on the same box
[06:05] <Clinton__> rooly: that makes you no different than anyone else!
[06:05] <Born_In_Xixax> since NTFS is MS, and not open source, it may never be 100%
[06:05] <bawnpa> ntfs write is masochists
[06:05] <AdelaideLuke> Megaqwerty: Np :)  But again; I had no issues! However; always better to be safe than sorry!
[06:06] <Megaqwerty> yeah, that seems to be a problem with them. Anyone know why they don't change to the more efficient ext3?
[06:06] <rooly> so, i googled for an faq, but i haven't found one yet
[06:06] <Megaqwerty> (out of curiosity)
[06:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, lamp | rooly
[06:06] <ubotu> rooly: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:06] <Born_In_Xixax> Megaqwerty: to reiterate, mounting/connecting to computers over the network (i.e. via windows networking protocol) is totally safe
[06:06] <rooly> sweet
[06:06] <rooly> thx
[06:07] <Megaqwerty> Born_In_Xixax: I'm asking if it is safe to write to those HDs, I have no problem copying from them.
[06:08] <Born_In_Xixax> yes, over the network
[06:08] <Born_In_Xixax> if you install an NTFS format hard drive in your linux PC, then you will be using NTFS-3G, and it is risker
[06:08] <JonBoon> how do i install a tar.gz ?
[06:08] <bnoki> hiya.
[06:09] <Maczimus> if you are writing to them over the network your linux machine is just telling windows to write the file. then windows takes care of it. otherwise if you are trying to write to a hard drive in a machine in linux then that's when you have problems.
[06:09] <bnoki> i want to install ubuntu from a usb drive.. any projects regarding that ? i've got a laptop with only a floppy disk but no other machines in the house with floppies :)
[06:09] <Born_In_Xixax> JonBoon: tar.gz is equivalent to .zip format...it is a compressed archive.  Generally you double click it to open it with archive manager...then look for a README or INSTALL file to tell you where to go from there
[06:09] <sfulmer> is it soup yet?
[06:09] <AdelaideLuke> JonBoon: thats a compressed file; you need to extract it using something like gzip
[06:09] <cherubiel> JonBoon: depends, the tar.gz might mostly contain sources; you'd need to compile it manually and generate sources; on the other hand, if it contains the binaries, just run them.
[06:10] <JonBoon> its the new firefox
[06:10] <cherubiel> JonBon: start with tar zxvf name.tar.gz
[06:10] <cherubiel> JonBoon: just run the above command, cd into the direcotyr; run ./firefox
[06:10] <Born_In_Xixax> don't listen to this command line fools!  just double click the tar.gz :P
[06:11] <cherubiel> Born_In_Xixax: well if he was on wmaker, what would he clikc on??!??
[06:11] <landexem> Okay so there;s an "xserver-xgl" package in Edgy'x universe component... if I install it (and dependencie) will that theoretically be everything I need to have XGL and related stuff?
[06:11] <Siph0n> I read in a forum post that the mrv8k driver that comes with ubuntu is defective and should be deleted, is that true? :)
[06:12] <Leone> whats the kernel i must install to ubuntu breezy?
[06:12] <Born_In_Xixax> if he was on wmaker, he would know how to handle a tar.gz...but j/k sorry :)
[06:12] <cherubiel> Born_In_Xixax: peace! :)
[06:12] <cherubiel> Leone: you should talk about repos, not kernel.
[06:13] <cherubiel> !repos
[06:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:13] <Leone> cherubiel, my sistem is not ready
[06:13] <Leone> i need the kernel
[06:13] <Leone> i must make aptitude install kernelxxx
[06:13] <Leone> what kernel must i write
[06:13] <cherubiel> Leone: what stage are you in the install?
[06:14] <Leone> i am installing with  ebootstrap
[06:14] <Leone> i need the kernel
[06:14] <iovar> !ef
[06:14] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[06:14] <Leone> cherubiel, root@dhcppc0:/#  ls /boot/
[06:14] <Leone> coffee.bmp  debianlilo.bmp  memtest86+.bin  sid.bmp
[06:14] <Leone> debian.bmp  grub            sarge.bmp
[06:15] <Kawaii-Panda> !fa
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <Kawaii-Panda> what? no release date for feisty fawn?
[06:15] <Siph0n> lol
[06:16] <ianmacgregor> Kawaii-Panda: Wouldn't that be ff?
[06:16] <dotwaffle> mdadm help needed - wanting to grow RAID 5, 3 devices to 4 devices. Error re: Cannot set size/shape. Ideas?
[06:16] <Kawaii-Panda> !ff
[06:16] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:16] <Maczimus> i think i read april-19th for fawn
[06:16] <AdelaideLuke> Kawaii-Panda: yah april 19 :p
[06:16] <Kawaii-Panda> i dont think so ian...
[06:16] <ClayG> anyone here use a laptop mount for their car? or gps for lappy? anyone here use a laptop mount for their car? or gps for lappy?
[06:16] <dotwaffle> ClayG: Yeah
[06:16] <dotwaffle> ClayG: GPS plugged into laptop
[06:16] <Leone> i need install kernel
[06:16] <Leone> to brezzy
[06:16] <dotwaffle> Leone: Which? Why?
[06:16] <Leone> what kernel do i need
[06:16] <ClayG> dotwaffle: should i get the cheapest?
[06:16] <ClayG> as far as receivers go , are they all the same?
[06:17] <AdelaideLuke> Kawaii-Panda: The Fridge knows all :p
[06:17] <Leone> root@dhcppc0:/#  ls /boot/
[06:17] <Leone> coffee.bmp  debianlilo.bmp  memtest86+.bin  sid.bmp
[06:17] <Leone> debian.bmp  grub            sarge.bmp
[06:17] <Leone>  dotwaffle
[06:17] <ClayG> besides size and clunkyness
[06:17] <ClayG> Leone: can you take that to a pastebin?
[06:17] <dotwaffle> Leone: Install package "linux-386" for breezy. It will pull in the required packages for you.
[06:17] <ClayG> my bad
[06:17] <dotwaffle> ClayG: Where in the world are you?
[06:17] <ianmacgregor> Leone: M box is fully updated and I have 2.6.15-27-386 as my latest kernel.. if that helps.
[06:17] <ClayG> Florida
[06:17] <Leone> dotsony, i think it will not wotk becouse the stable is edgy now
[06:17] <Leone> ok thanks ianmacgregor
[06:18] <dotwaffle> ClayG: Ok, America then ;) Get any USB or PS/2 GPS that does NOT have a screen or the "Microsoft" tag on it, and it'll work out of the box, they are essentially usb->Serial adaptors, and any GPS program can talk to them over normal /dev/ttsy0 etc - essentially, plug and play ;)
[06:18] <Madpilot> Leone, no, Edgy isn't stable for another 24hrs or so ;)
[06:18] <dotwaffle> ClayG: At least that's thecase in the UK.
[06:18] <blanky> hey guys
[06:19] <JonBoon> blarg! why isnt firefox2 just in the synaptic package manager??
[06:19] <blanky> in ssh, what's the command to copy things to my computer?
[06:19] <blanky> scp what what?
[06:19] <dotwaffle> Leone: make sure your etc/apt/sources.list has breezy in it, instead of edgy then
[06:19] <blanky> i sshed into my other computer and I need to copy the /boot/grub/menu.lst onto mine
[06:19] <Madpilot> JonBoon, because it's still beta?
[06:19] <wastrel> scp local.file<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:19] <dotwaffle> JonBoon: It's referenced to Firefox, just install firefox, all the magic is done for you
[06:19] <blanky> what's the command, scp ?
[06:19] <blanky> thanks wastrel
[06:19] <ianmacgregor> blanky: scp user@host:/path/source /path/target
[06:20] <dotwaffle> blanky: sudo scp HOST:/boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.list
[06:20] <dotwaffle> mdadm help needed - wanting to grow RAID 5, 3 devices to 4 devices. Error re: Cannot set size/shape. Ideas?
[06:20] <blanky> ianmacgregor, wastrel, dotwaffle, thanks
[06:20] <dotwaffle> no probs
[06:21] <blanky> wait, if my computer ip is <IP_ADDRESS> and I'm sshe'd into the computer which contains the file I want to download, what would I do, assuming the file is called test.txt
[06:21] <blanky> sorry for the hassle but I'm kind of in a panick at the moment heh
[06:21] <dotwaffle> blanky: don't look at <IP_ADDRESS>, that's "localhost" find another ip in ifconfig
[06:21] <blanky> I know that that's the localhost
[06:21] <dotwaffle> oh ok ;)
[06:22] <dotwaffle> blanky: sudo scp <IP_ADDRESS>:/boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.list
[06:22] <blanky> okay thanks dotwaffle
[06:22] <dotwaffle> no probs
[06:22] <blanky> so <IP_ADDRESS> is the computer im using to ssh into the computer which contains the file?
[06:22] <dotwaffle> correct
[06:22] <dotwaffle> well...
[06:22] <blanky> basically, I sshed into my other computer which has a file I need, how can I put it on mine, oh okay thanks for the help dotwaffle
[06:23] <dotwaffle> machine that has the file is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:23] <ClayG> dotwaffle: whats the scoop on gps, im in florida
[06:23] <ClayG> lol
[06:23] <ClayG> does it matter if i get the cheapest, as far as the receivers go?
[06:23] <dotwaffle> ClayG: In the UK, at least, the cheaper, the more chance they're going to be supported.
[06:23] <ClayG> I mean the data is going to be processed/formatted by the computer so i wouldn't imagine it matters
[06:23] <dotwaffle> ClayG: Wait one second.
[06:23] <ClayG> no kiffinh
[06:23] <ClayG> kiffinh
[06:23] <ClayG> er whatever
[06:23] <ClayG> lol
[06:23] <cafuego> gleesond: Are you in Florida, plus or minus 500 miles? ;-)
[06:23] <ClayG> ok, the next issue is laptop mounts
[06:24] <ClayG> i want a good one
[06:24] <ClayG> something like whast the cops use
[06:24] <Jay2> hey, folks
[06:24] <timhudson> hrllo
[06:24] <ClayG> i want to be able to have my laptop in the middle to use, watch DVD's , use the GPS or if i decide to get raped on price, use the internet
[06:24] <ClayG> do you know anything about thaT?
[06:24] <ClayG> laptop mounts?
[06:24] <ClayG> or do you just keep yours on the passenger seat
[06:25] <timhudson> passenger seat for me
[06:25] <ClayG> that is an option (temp) but iumagine having it in the middle , held up in the air, easy to use
[06:25] <dotwaffle> ClayG: I have a co-driver to use the laptop, but if not, laptop in passenger well, scren pointing towards me.
[06:25] <ClayG> transforming your laptop into a awesome dvd player
[06:25] <dotwaffle> ClayG: In the UK at least, that would be illegal. restricts field of vision
[06:26] <ClayG> yeah everyone has the preferences
[06:26] <ClayG> I prefer the midlde
[06:26] <ClayG> middle
[06:26] <blanky> dotwaffle, sorry for the trouble, but if you're already ssh'ed into the computer that contains the file you want, is there another command I should use?
[06:26] <dotwaffle> I'd recommend you don't especially if you're driving - don't want you to become another statistic ;)
[06:26] <dotwaffle> blanky: if you're ssh'd in, then you could either log out, or just scp the file back over...
[06:26] <ianmacgregor> blanky: Are you using gnome-terminal?
[06:26] <ClayG> dotwaffle: haven't taken the law  into consideration, not one of the factors im using
[06:27] <Jay2> I am fairly new to Ubuntu. Got xchat working, got my linux box networked to my windows box. Downloaded Quasar (business software), got it extracted, but can't figure out how to install it.
[06:27] <ClayG> but it is good to know
[06:27] <blanky> ianmacgregor, I'm on windows, using PuTTY
[06:27] <timhudson> Is there a way to install ubuntu on my ibook, with out it crapping out my osx install? I want to dual boot, but I'm very leary of killing my osx install
[06:27] <blanky> dotwaffle, how would I do the latter, with the command you gave me?
[06:27] <FastZ> Jay2: what type of file did you download?
[06:27] <blanky> I tried doing
[06:27] <AdamKili> what command do i use to find my IP address in the terminal? (e.g. <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:27] <dotwaffle> blanky => PM
[06:27] <AdamKili> )
[06:27] <blanky> sudo scp <IP_ADDRESS>:/book/grub/menu.lst .
[06:28] <Born_In_Xixax> AdamKili: ifconfig
[06:28] <blanky> assuming <IP_ADDRESS> is the ip (i changed it of course) and it asked me for the password, I typed it in, and it kept saying wrong password
[06:28] <blanky> okay dotwaffle
[06:28] <Jay2> FastZ: /home/malcowee/Desktop/quasar-1.4.7_GPL.tgz
[06:28] <AdamKili> ty
[06:28] <d3v1ant_0n3> Just a super quickie- it's not worth me starting a forum thread over- but why, if i run Nautilus from within Kubuntu, does it load my GNOME wallpaper up with the nautilus browser?
[06:29] <wastrel> d3v1ant_0n3:  nautilus is responsible for drawing the root window in gnome.  there should be a pref to turn that off...
[06:29] <ianmacgregor> d3v1ant_0n3: Because nautilus manages the desktop as default behaviour. If you don't want it to do that, run: nautilus --no-desktop
[06:29] <FastZ> Jay2: try alien -d quasar-1.4.7_GPL.tgz while in the /home/malcowee/Desktop directory
[06:29] <AdelaideLuke> AdamKili: You can also use netstat
[06:29] <d3v1ant_0n3> ah ok. ty!
[06:30] <AdelaideLuke> it's a little more verbose, however! :p
[06:30] <Jay2> FastZ:  after I got it unpacted , here's what I have:  /home/malcowee/Desktop/quasar-1.4.7_GPL
[06:30] <Stravos> Should glxinfo show Mesa for the OpenGL renderer with the open source radeon driver?
[06:30] <FastZ> Jay2:  and that is a folder right?
[06:31] <Jay2> yes FastZ
[06:31] <timhudson> Is there a way to install ubuntu on my ibook, with out it crapping out my osx install? I want to dual boot, but I'm very leary of killing my osx install?
[06:31] <FastZ> Jay2: is there a ./config in there
[06:31] <Jay2> yes, I'm sure
[06:31] <rebelfallen> what is a good scan range for a 1024x768 monitor? My settings are:     HorizSync    31.5 - 48.5   /   VertRefresh  40.0 - 60.0    but the monitor still says "OUT OF SCAN RANGE 64.0kHz/ 60Hz"
[06:31] <rebelfallen> The secondary monitor is a sony 15" lcd
[06:32] <FastZ> Jay2: have you tried to open up a terminal and run the command ./configure ?
[06:32] <FastZ> Jay2: or ./config, my mistake
[06:32] <Jay2> no, how do I do that?
[06:33] <ianmacgregor> FastZ: iirc, it's ./configure
[06:33] <FastZ> ianmacgregor: thanks for the correction
[06:34] <OSV> Hey!
[06:34] <FastZ> Jay2:  terminal into the quasar-1.4.7_GPL folder
[06:34] <Jay2> how does one open up a terminal?????????
[06:34] <rebelfallen> uh oh
[06:34] <yunfei> hello
[06:34] <rebelfallen> I just angered the monitor gods
[06:34] <ianmacgregor> Jay2: ALT+F2, type in: gnome-terminal
[06:34] <OSV> How can I listen to mp3 music in Ubuntu/GNU?
[06:34] <FastZ> Jay2: sorry, Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[06:35] <JonBoon> im trying to add xmms skins. how do i give myself permission to drag skins to the filesystem folder
[06:35] <Jay2> thanks, FastZ
[06:35] <FunnyLookinHat> OSV, restricted formats  :)
[06:35] <FunnyLookinHat> !restricted
[06:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:35] <Stravos> !mesa
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <FastZ> Jay2: no problem
[06:35] <OSV> FunnyLookinHat, ???
[06:36] <ianmacgregor> JonBoon: Skins for xmms can go into ~/.xmms/Skins
[06:36] <FunnyLookinHat> OSV, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:36] <FunnyLookinHat> OSV, that page will tell you how
[06:37] <Stravos> I guess I'll give it another shot... anyone know if "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 TCL" is correct in glxinfo if I'm running the 'radeon' driver?
[06:37] <Xitium> has 6.10 been released yet? The ubuntu site says 6.10 released but I can't find it for download
[06:37] <Vuen> what's up #ubuntu, I'm trying to play a winamp stream in mplayer and I get this: avisynth.dll
[06:38] <Vuen> i'm missing that file
[06:38] <Vuen> how do i get win32 libraries on here?
[06:38] <CientificoLoco> jrib,
[06:38] <CientificoLoco> hola
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Xitium, so it has...   : )   Just give the site a bit of time to update the download pages
[06:38] <CientificoLoco> sorry
[06:38] <CientificoLoco> jrib, hello
[06:38] <CientificoLoco> jrib, I wanna install firefox 2 in my laptop and I think If I do that I can unfix it.
[06:39] <The_Jack_of_Club> cool 6.10 is released
[06:39] <FunnyLookinHat> Xitium, here's a link for ya  : )
[06:39] <iovar> !ef
[06:39] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download.  I did an install of knoppix on the second drive (sdb). I need to put grub back on the first drive (sda)
[06:41] <ianmacgregor> RancidLM: startx -- 1:  I believe
[06:41] <The_Jack_of_Club> boo
[06:41] <The_Jack_of_Club> its not released
[06:41] <rebelfallen> what is a good scan range for a 1024x768 monitor? My settings are:     HorizSync    31.5 - 48.5   /   VertRefresh  40.0 - 60.0    but the monitor still says "OUT OF SCAN RANGE 64.0kHz/ 60Hz"
[06:41] <The_Jack_of_Club> got my hopes up with the changed front page
[06:41] <RhiNo> Can anyone help me Remove whats already in my ndiswrapper?
[06:42] <norbert_c> The_Jack_of_Club, its nearly lunchtime here too...
[06:42] <SaLsIcHa> ubuntu 6.10 is out o.O
[06:42] <ianmacgregor> rebelfallen: The best thing you can do is get your monitor make/model and google for specs.
[06:42] <Vuen> finally!
[06:42] <Vuen> crack open the shampagne!
[06:42] <RhiNo> globe are you there?
[06:42] <rebelfallen> I already have tried
[06:42] <SaLsIcHa> o.o
[06:42] <SaLsIcHa> omg
[06:42] <The_Jack_of_Club> so
[06:42] <SaLsIcHa> and i don't speek english @_@
[06:42] <The_Jack_of_Club> wait
[06:43] <SaLsIcHa> ;_;
[06:43] <ianmacgregor> rebelfallen: What make/model is the monitor (and what company)?
[06:43] <The_Jack_of_Club> is it or isnt it?
[06:43] <SaLsIcHa> www.ubuntu.com :P
[06:43] <Xitium> RhiNo: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Uninstall
[06:43] <norbert_c> its on front page in text only...
[06:43] <The_Jack_of_Club> uh huh
[06:43] <The_Jack_of_Club> welp its close
[06:43] <mnepton> soon
[06:44] <mnepton> not now. but soon. promise.
[06:44] <Xitium> to pass the time Im gonna install fc6 and check it out
[06:44] <RhiNo> ty that worked quick
[06:44] <CientificoLoco> jrib, are you there?
[06:44] <CientificoLoco> jrib, are you there?
[06:44] <The_Jack_of_Club> im still on my first real ubuntu install and i gotta say its the best ive ever used so i wanna be one of the first to get 6.10
[06:44] <mnepton> Xitium: you could check out yesterday's daily build of Edgy ....
[06:45] <globe> what is the point of runlevels?
[06:45] <timhudson> hmmm... Is there a way to speed up the trackpad of a G4 ibook in 6.06?
[06:45] <Xitium> mnepton: I could but Im only got one cd left and all the stores are currently closed :P
[06:46] <mnepton> you're not going to get FC6 on a single CD
[06:46] <Xitium> I have it burned on a dvd
[06:46] <hyperpenguin> Hi there! I'm looking to upgrade to Edgy, but my Dapper box doesn't think it needs any updates, even after apt-get update and then dist-upgrade. Any ideas?
[06:46] <ianmacgregor> Xitium: FC6 is five cd's
[06:46] <jbroome> hyperpenguin: yeah, wait for the final release
[06:46] <The_Jack_of_Club> fc5 was a big disappointment to me
[06:47] <hyperpenguin> The final release isn't out yet? That'd do it... lol
[06:47] <spdf> hyperpenguin, your repos are likely pointing to dapper still.
[06:47] <hyperpenguin> Ah right, they are.
[06:47] <Xitium> The_Jack_of_Club: me too I'm not expecting too much with 6
[06:47] <hyperpenguin> So I judt change every instance of "dapper" to "edgy" in sources.list?
[06:48] <rredd4> hper  yes
[06:48] <amicrawle> how do i get lxdvdrip in dapper
[06:48] <wikijeff> So is the final version of edgy out now?
[06:48] <iovar> !ef
[06:48] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[06:48] <The_Jack_of_Club> wikijeff: not yet
[06:48] <The_Jack_of_Club> but any moment now it will be
[06:48] <globe> hyperpenguin: I would bet that if you give it time, you will get a dist-upgrade notify
[06:48] <amicrawle> i'm trying to copy a dvd to iso so i can make may copies
[06:48] <_samuel> hello
[06:48] <mikepence> hello all
[06:48] <_samuel> when is 6.10 out?
[06:48] <hyperpenguin> Okay, thanks for the help, and sorry about the idiotic question.