[12:01] <bruenig> _sandy_, I am not familiar with what /proc/partitions does but could it just be a list of mounted partitions
[12:01] <vinboy> why my ubuntu automatically log itself out once awhile?
[12:01] <MN> hello, i run xchat on linux ubuntu and i want to download script when i open xchat and connect on some server and i want to have script for auto login ( auto msg ) can somebody give me that plugin or script a ?
[12:01] <aoupi> svish: what config file?
[12:01] <_sandy_> no
[12:01] <bruenig> MN, #xchat
[12:02] <MN> bruenig: there dont have helpers
[12:02] <nikin> i have found a page about udev blacklisting but i cant figure out what rc.conf does it meen : http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev  this is the link
[12:02] <_sandy_> /proc/partitions are all partitions probed for udev to create device nodes for
[12:02] <svish> aoupi: dont know. did it through Configuration Editor. apps/metacity/global_keybindings and keybinding_command
[12:02] <MN> and i need help here
[12:02] <MetaBookfoziS> hy all
[12:02] <bruenig> MN, there should be a place to put a password to identify yourself in xchat if that is what you are wanting
[12:02] <MetaBookfoziS> how can i convrt pdf to txt?
[12:02] <bruenig> automatically identify*
[12:02] <_sandy_> connection reset by queer, or erection reset by queer
[12:03] <aoupi> svish: ctrl+alt+backspace will restart X and therby reload the metacity conf files
[12:03] <svish> aoupi: followed the http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560 B thingy, but key doesnt work. so I guess it doesnt know about the change yet
[12:03] <svish> aoupi: ok ill try that..
[12:03] <MN> k
[12:03] <_sandy_> aoupi: got any words
[12:03] <asqueella> what is 'distribution upgrade' ubuntu wants me to run? (apparently it can't upgrade xserver-xorg package the normal way)
[12:03] <_sandy_> or anybody really
[12:03] <aoupi> _sandy_: was thinking of fsck but since theyr not in /dev....
[12:04] <snowdon> hi everybody
[12:04] <bruenig> asqueella, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:04] <_sandy_> well, their SFS partitions (dynamic volumes for NT) but I was able to mount them the other day... :(
[12:04] <_sandy_> I don't think that makes any difference though because I've had this stupid problem with linux and hard drives before
[12:04] <snowdon> Does anyone know where I can find a list of the apps that come with ubuntu live, i've searched their website but haven't found anything.
[12:05] <_sandy_> and they weren't nt partitions
[12:05] <foob> i have most of my music on my /media/hda1 (windows parition). what do you think is better, to copy all of it to my /home/foob/Desktop/Music/ or to just make symlinks to my ubuuntu desktop?
[12:05] <kejup> metabookfoxiS: I think there is a program "pdf2txt"
[12:05] <bruenig> snowdon, a total list probably not, it has pretty much whatever you want and you can install stuff via repos even on live cd
[12:05] <h3xis> snowdon, is there a particular app that you are wanting to know if it's in the livecd?
[12:05] <Admiral_Buttercr> OK, I got Windows XP working, but Ubuntu still goes to Busy Box
[12:05] <_sandy_> foob: cat /dev/sda1 > /dev/dsp
[12:05] <amir> bruening. like gaim, it starts up every time i start my comp
[12:05] <bruenig> at least whatever you would want from a live cd
[12:05] <Hyde> if im having trouble with wine on ubuntu is this the right place?
[12:05] <mwe> asqueella: using apt-get dist-upgrade also 'intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages'
[12:05] <_sandy_> you can listen to your music that way, sorta
[12:05] <Falstius> foob: move all of the music to linux, reformat the windows partition and then just use it for storing music.
[12:06] <snowdon> h3xis: just a browser with the java runtime environment
[12:06] <aoupi> _sandy_: :D
[12:06] <snowdon> kejup: there are actually quite a few if you google.
[12:06] <bruenig> amir, go to system>preferences>sessions, then to the startup commands tab, then take gaim out
[12:06] <_sandy_> heh
[12:06] <kmasta> i keep getting an error that I have a duplicate repo enabled. it shows me two repos. Should i just de-activate one of them?
[12:06] <h3xis> snowdon, it has firefox on there and i'm not sure if java is included but a monkey can install it :)
[12:06] <amir> bruenig thanks
[12:06] <_sandy_> aoupi: I usually cat urandom to dsp to test if my sound works ;)
[12:06] <kejup> snowdon: yeah, but how many in the repo?
[12:06] <foob> so easy a caveman can do it?
[12:06] <snowdon> h3xis: Thanks
[12:07] <snowdon> kejup: don't know sorry.
[12:07] <aoupi> _sandy_: me too
[12:07] <h3xis> foob, even better
[12:07] <mwe> _sandy_: turning down the volume first I hope ;)
[12:07] <asqueella> mwe: do I understand it correctly that it can't install the updated xserver package because soemthing else depends on its older version?
[12:07] <_sandy_> uh yeah
[12:07] <_sandy_> lol
[12:07] <asqueella> mwe: what kind of 'intelligent handling' can fix that?
[12:07] <asqueella> and what happens if I click 'distribution upgrade'?
[12:08] <mwe> asqueella: updating those as well
[12:08] <_sandy_> grr I'm gonna go try stuff, I'll come back and let you guys know if I find out anything
[12:08] <bruenig> asqueella, but if you are using dapper, it will try to update you, I think, to edgy
[12:08] <mwe> asqueella: unless your repos are broken dis-upgrade should work
[12:08] <Some_Person> If I format the useless FAT32 partition on my drive (shown first in gparted, but mounts as /dev/hda2), will it destroy other partitions by formatting with cfdisk?
[12:08] <mwe> asqueella: yeah with dist-upgrade
[12:08] <aoupi> _sandy_: good luck
[12:08] <nikin> can anyone help me with udev blacklisting of modules?
[12:08] <asqueella> (I'm using edgy)
[12:08] <amir> -inurl: (htm|html|php) intitle:"index of" "last modified" "parent
[12:08] <amir> directory" description size (wam|mp3) "50 cent"
[12:08] <Shadowpillar> quick question
[12:09] <asqueella> and I think it can't upgrade the package due to some xgl/whatever packages I installed earlier
[12:09] <aoupi> nikin: if it is a kernel module you can blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:09] <asqueella> not that it's willing to tell me
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> how do I re-install grub after installing windows XP
[12:09] <mwe> asqueella: as I said use apt-get dist-upgrade ;) apt-get update first though. see if it works.
[12:09] <asqueella> okay
[12:09] <nikin> aoupi: ty
[12:09] <Flannel> !grub | Shadowpillar
[12:09] <ubotu> Shadowpillar: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:09] <Some_Person> will it?
[12:09] <Falstius> nikin: do you want to blacklist modules or devices?  you can use /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to blacklist modules
[12:09] <Hyde> i have wine installed through the terminal but i cannot use it
[12:10] <Hyde> anyone have suggestions?
[12:10] <bruenig> Hyde, what do you mean you can't use it
[12:10] <Hyde> i tried to execute a .exe file
[12:10] <Hyde> and i dont have to option to use it
[12:10] <mwe> asqueella: if you installed something from third party repos it could have broken things
[12:10] <asqueella> I know :)
[12:10] <bruenig> Hyde, do wine "/path/to/exe"
[12:10] <Some_Person> exe needs wine
[12:10] <asqueella> what I'm concerned about is the cryptic dialog
[12:11] <asqueella> which doesn't make it obvious what Distribution upgrade button does
[12:11] <Hyde> i have wine checked in my synaptic package manager
[12:11] <asqueella> does it run apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:11] <Hyde> bruenig, is that thru the terminal?
[12:11] <nikin> Falstius: yep modules... t
[12:11] <nikin> y
[12:11] <Shadowpillar> I need to restore grub but in the chroot environment, /dev/sda doesnt appear
[12:11] <Some_Person> then go to terminal and type wine '/path/to/something.exe'
[12:11] <bruenig> Hyde, yes, when someone says do, that means terminal
[12:11] <Shadowpillar> can anyone help?
[12:12] <bimberi> 2 (aligned) helpers is better than 0 :)
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> Shadowpillar: is there and sdb, sdc, or hda?
[12:12] <Hyde> its frustating because yesturday wine worked fine
[12:13] <Hyde> and i used #sudo aptitude update
[12:13] <bruenig> Hyde, what is the problem
[12:13] <bruenig> Hyde, wine "/path/to/your.exe"
[12:13] <Hyde> its just not there
[12:13] <bruenig> Hyde, what happens when you do that
[12:13] <Hyde> alright, let me try that
[12:13] <Hyde> in the parenthesis is jsut the path to exe
[12:13] <bruenig> Hyde, yes
[12:13] <bruenig> and those are quotes
[12:14] <sleepy007> how to change the starting day of the week ?
[12:14] <Shadowpillar> tonyyarusso: nope
[12:14] <tonyyarusso> Shadowpillar: so it sees no disks at all?
[12:14] <Shadowpillar> tonyyarusso: however, in the livecd's environment, there is, but in the chroot environment, nada
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> Shadowpillar: Oh.  um...
[12:15] <Hyde> well, it did something
[12:15] <registered99> Hi, can someone help me get a DLink DWL-G510 Marvell chipsetted wireless card to work with ubuntu 6.06 using ndiswrapper?
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> Shadowpillar: You could try doing it outside of chroot if you know the drive number
[12:15] <Hyde> still unable to open the exe however
[12:15] <bruenig> Hyde, what is the output when you do that command
[12:16] <Hyde> VisualBoyAdvance.exe
[12:16] <Hyde> sorry
[12:16] <Hyde> that wasnt all of it
[12:16] <Hyde> give me a sec
[12:16] <Hyde> wine /home/peter/My Games/Visual Boy Advance/VisualBoyAdvance.exe
[12:16] <bruenig> Hyde, put quotes around the path
[12:16] <Hyde> i guess you guys know what im trying to run ^^
[12:16] <Flannel> Hyde: you'll need to escape the spaces (\ ), tab completion will take care of that for y though
[12:17] <Hyde> alright, dinner time
[12:17] <Hyde> i'll have to figure this out later
[12:17] <[g2] > Hyde type wine "/home/peter/M and then tab complete it
[12:17] <asqueella> is there any way I can convince apt to tell me /why/ it doesn't want to upgrade something?
[12:18] <bruenig> asqueella, it should tell you
[12:18] <killown> how I do to use vmplayer in fullscreen mode
[12:18] <registered99> Hi, can someone help me with Dlink DWL-G510 wireless cards working with ndiswrapper in ubuntu?
[12:18] <svish> the Super_L key doeSnt work! I put <Super_L> with a letter in the global_keybindingS, but it only work without the Super_L :(
[12:18] <wylde> ubuntu is based on debian, right? So would packages designed for ubuntu work in debian and vice cersa?
[12:18] <wylde> *versa
[12:18] <asqueella> "The following packages have been kept back: xserver-xorg"
[12:18] <asqueella> not much info here
[12:18] <killown> I want to run system in vmplayer mode fullscreen how do it?
[12:18] <[g2] > anyone know what the hw autodectection package is ? I've debootstrapped Xubuntu since there's no CDROM on the device and the sound isn't setup
[12:18] <aoupi> !visualboyadvance | Hyde
[12:18] <ubotu> visualboyadvance: a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.2-6 (edgy), package size 581 kB, installed size 2260 kB
[12:19] <bruenig> asqueella, try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[12:19] <bimberi> ubotu: tell svish about winkey | via /msg
[12:19] <oldab> hi! i wanted to install compiz on edgy. unfortunately the system is complaining about the wrong openglcore version
[12:19] <bruenig> !compiz | oldab
[12:19] <ubotu> oldab: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:19] <MTecknology> I'm trying to use gparted off of a live CD to make an extra partition to transfer data between Ubuntu and Windows. GParted seems to go through the motions of resizing the ext3 partition but doesn't actually resize it. Anybody know why?
[12:20] <bruenig> do you hit apply
[12:20] <svish> bimberi: aaaaah.. im SuppoSed to uSe <mod4>? not <Super_L>?
[12:20] <mi6uel> holas
[12:20] <mi6uel> o.O
[12:20] <bruenig> !es
[12:20] <MTecknology> bruenig, ya
[12:20] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:20] <bimberi> svish: yes
[12:20] <oldab> obotu: thank you. I'll have a look
[12:20] <bruenig> !thanks | oldab
[12:20] <ubotu> oldab: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:20] <asqueella> okay, it decided to install all the video drivers it could find (?!)
[12:20] <asqueella> which is weird, but I don't mind
[12:21] <svish> bimberi: thank youu hehe
[12:21] <MooUK> Hmmm. I can't find a media player that suits me yet. I think I need to keep trying them...
[12:21] <asqueella> heh, apt-get install xserver-xorg did the trick
[12:21] <bimberi> svish: np :)
[12:22] <asqueella> so I totally don't understand what the problem was, but it appears to be fixed
[12:22] <asqueella> thanks bruenig, mwe
[12:22] <bimberi> ha!
[12:22] <svish> nice!! the winkey shortcuts are working :D
I'm back..............
[12:23] <registered99> I'm having trouble with getting a Dlink DWL-G510 wireless card to work with ndiswrapper in Ubuntu 6.06. Can someone please help me?
[12:24] <oldab> ubotu: a bot?
[12:24] <Orby> hi, i just purchased a new computer that has a Pentium D 64bit, but i cant find the intel 64bit version of ubuntu, do i just use the amd64 or do i have to stick with the i386 one ?
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <svish> hehe... ubotu trying to explain away that he is a bot..
[12:24] <registered99> ubotu: DWL-G510 wireless?
[12:24] <MTecknology> I'm trying to use gparted off of a live CD to make an extra partition to transfer data between Ubuntu and Windows. GParted seems to go through the motions of resizing the ext3 partition but doesn't actually resize it. Anybody know why?
[12:25] <bruenig> ubotu: bot
[12:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:25] <registered99> ubotu: DWL-G510?
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DWL-G510? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <MAJKU-MU> ConvertOne I still have problem with that disabling irq #201 when try to dial using modem or to pick-up line
[12:26] <svish> why is 3ddesk inverted in colors? and how can I remove the huge green number over the cube?
[12:26] <registered99> I'm having trouble with getting a Dlink DWL-G510 wireless card to work with ndiswrapper in Ubuntu 6.06. Can someone please help me?
[12:26] <hjmills> how can i get a score for my pc which i can compare to another pc? prefereable divided into diff things - hdd, cpu, memory, gfx etc
[12:27] <Orby> to use a pentium D 64bit to its fullest which version of ubuntu do i need ?
[12:27] <roflarn> 64bit
[12:27] <Orby> yes i know that part... but i cant find it
[12:27] <Orby> theres only amd64 and i386
[12:28] <brianski> wtf. google autosuggest - type spiritus international, it suggests "spice anal" ... uh....
[12:28] <jonah1980> hi guys just updated to feisty, only now my wireless card won't work. it was on ath0 in edgy, since rebooting in feisty it's not there! can anyone please help me?
[12:28] <hjmills> Orby: amd64 - its only called that because intel were slow getting out 64bit support - tho i think its changing to x86_64
[12:28] <aoupi> hjmills: cat /proc/cpuinfo will give you info about the cpu, cat /proc/meminfo will give you info about memory df -h will give you info about partition size(only mounted partitions)
[12:28] <Orby> hjmills: oh ok, thanks :D
[12:29] <hjmills> aoupi: thanks but i was more looking for a test that would give a rating of how good it is in practice - something like the time it takes to run a certain command
[12:29] <Orby> venigma: you following me ;)
[12:29] <aoupi> hjmills: time command :)
[12:29] <hjmills> aoupi: of course that command would have to be identical on every pc - so what command can i time?
[12:29] <svish> !3ddesk
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <bruenig> !info 3ddesktop
[12:30] <registered99>  I'm having trouble with getting a Dlink DWL-G510 wireless card to work with ndiswrapper in Ubuntu 6.06. Can someone please help me?
[12:30] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[12:30] <registered99> !info DWL-G510
[12:30] <ubotu> Package dwl-g510 does not exist in any distro I know
[12:30] <aoupi> hjmills: hm there problably is some benchmark apps in synaptic
[12:30] <jazzrocker> http://pastebin.ca/303783
[12:30] <hjmills> aoupi: as far as i know time will just tell you how long a command takes - so what command could i get to do big maths calcs for example? something to calculate the first 100 or 1000 primes?
[12:30] <jazzrocker> any idea why i get that error?
[12:31] <bimberi> registered99: your question is a bit vague.  tell the channel a bit more about what you've tried and what error you're getting
[12:31] <Hyde> alright, my wine is not working
[12:31] <Hyde> and i followed these directions
[12:31] <Hyde> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wine
[12:31] <aoupi> hjmills: apt-cache searh benchmark too see if you find any good ones soo you don't have to write one yourself
[12:31] <ikonia> jazzrocker: that are you trying to do
[12:31] <jazzrocker> ikonia, i'm trying to use sudo
[12:31] <bruenig> Hyde, did you see that what you are trying to use through wine exists in the ubuntu repos
[12:31] <ikonia> and I suspect you are changing that error
[12:32] <bimberi> jazzrocker: your /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files don't have the same name.  You can fix it by booting into recovery mode
[12:32] <bimberi> !hostname
[12:32] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[12:32] <Hyde> its my second day with linux
[12:32] <bruenig> !info visualboyadvance
[12:32] <Hyde> =\
[12:32] <jazzrocker> bimberi, thanks
[12:32] <ubotu> visualboyadvance: a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.2-6 (edgy), package size 581 kB, installed size 2260 kB
[12:32] <HighLife> hey does anyone know of a media player that will also sort video with the cover artwork and everything?
[12:32] <ikonia> Hyde: don't care
[12:32] <bruenig> Hyde, have you enabled the extra repos?
[12:32] <hjmills> aoupi: thanks
[12:32] <Hyde> yeah
[12:32] <bruenig> Hyde, ignore ikonia
[12:32] <jazzrocker> ikonia, i suspect you have nothing useful to say
[12:32] <Hyde> i made them universal and community enabled
[12:32] <registered99> bimberi: Hi, I have a DWL-G510 card. I'm trying to install it through ndiswrapper. I have tried all results on google.
[12:32] <ikonia> there is enough "noise" in this busy channel
[12:32] <bruenig> Hyde, ok, then do sudo apt-get install visualboyadvance
[12:33] <ikonia> its supposed to be support
[12:33] <svish> Does anyone have experience with 3ddesk? It is inverting the colors for some reason... it looks weird :|
[12:33] <ikonia> jazzrocker: you suppose wrong
[12:33] <registered99> bimberi: Yet, ndiswrapper -l doesn't seem to result in anything but "driver installed"
[12:33] <jazzrocker> ikonia, nice retort :)
[12:33] <bruenig> svish, best way to fix that, sudo apt-get remove 3ddesktop
[12:33] <hjmills> !info vigor
[12:33] <ubotu> vigor: nvi with the evil paperclip. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.016-8 (edgy), package size 261 kB, installed size 680 kB
[12:33] <svish> bruenig: and then install it again?
[12:33] <bruenig> svish, nah, just leave it uninstalle
[12:33] <bimberi> registered99: Unfortunately I know nothing about ndiswrapper (I did say to ask the channel)
[12:34] <svish> bruenig: lol... but thats no fun :p
[12:34] <bimberi> registered99: (ie. no need to prepend with a nick)
[12:34] <helpmeplease> I NEED HELP
[12:34] <bruenig> !info ndisgtk
[12:34] <ubotu> ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB
[12:34] <ikonia> helpmeplease: no need to use caps
[12:34] <bruenig> !justask
[12:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:35] <hjmills> !grue
[12:35] <ubotu> The grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_%28monster%29 and !seveas
[12:35] <bruenig> !caps
[12:35] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:35] <helpmeplease> MY PARTITION TABLE IS "INVALID"
[12:35] <ikonia> just ask your question
[12:35] <jbroome> helpmeplease: the caps lock is the key on the left side of the kb
[12:35] <helpmeplease> I CANT BOOT
[12:35] <Rprp`>   Karverkasta L Rprp Somethief TBot Xe_BNC
[12:35] <ikonia> helpmeplease: stop using caps
[12:35] <registered99> Does anyone know why ndiswrapper might not detect a DLink DWL-G510 revision A1 card? I can't get my card to be detected by Ubuntu. Ndiswrapper reports the driver to be installed, but it doesn't report the hardware being seen.
[12:35] <hjmills> !caps | helpmeplease
[12:35] <bruenig> !caps | HellDragon2
[12:35] <ubotu> helpmeplease: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:35] <ubotu> HellDragon2: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:35] <bruenig> damn
[12:35] <jazzrocker> ok, so /etc/hostname has "foobar.org" while /etc/hosts only has an entry for localhost, i'm guessing i should add the mapping from my IP to my hostname in the /etc/hosts file y/n?
[12:35] <helpmeplease> just quick help me
[12:35] <ikonia> helpmeplease: fdisk -l $yourdevice name
[12:35] <helpmeplease> i'm on ubuntu live
[12:35] <jazzrocker> this is a regular dev server, live, through SSH
[12:35] <hjmills> helpmeplease: and the problem is on your main ubuntu install?
[12:36] <bruenig> !freshinstall
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freshinstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <helpmeplease> my whole HD
[12:36] <helpmeplease> i have a dualboot
[12:36] <jbroome> ownage
[12:36] <hjmills> helpmeplease: backup everything from the main hdd if you can from the live system
[12:36] <helpmeplease> ohhh
[12:36] <ikonia> helpmeplease: do fdisk -l /dev/$your_hard_disk_name
[12:36] <helpmeplease> am i very likely to lose data?
[12:36] <helpmeplease> i know the partitions data is still there (except hda2, dont know why)
[12:37] <ikonia> helpmeplease: fdisk -l /dev/hda2
[12:37] <ikonia> oops
[12:37] <ikonia> helpmeplease: fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:37] <helpmeplease> ok\
[12:37] <bimberi> jazzrocker: the line for <IP_ADDRESS> should have the same name on it as what's in /etc/hostname
[12:37] <hjmills> helpmeplease: surely thats why you do regular backups and keep them in a fireproof safe at an off site location and test them to make sure the backups work?
[12:37] <helpmeplease> it says "Partition table entries are not in disk order"
[12:38] <jazzrocker> bimberi, ala: <IP_ADDRESS>    localhost localhost.localdomain foobar.org
[12:38] <jazzrocker> bimberi, ?
[12:38] <bimberi> hjmills: .0001% of the population :)
[12:38] <helpmeplease> now, after the fdisk, is it fixed?
[12:38] <chupie> i just got ubuntu installed.. and currently the screen resolution is 1280x1024, when i goto lower it.. it takes me back to the login screen, then when i log back in, it tells me i need to reboot.. which i do, then nothing has changed
[12:38] <helpmeplease> i see a list of my partitions
[12:38] <ikonia> helpmeplease: so that means there is a partition table
[12:38] <bimberi> jazzrocker: hm, maybe just "foobar".  give me a minute to check one of my servers...
[12:39] <helpmeplease> it says its invalid on boot
[12:39] <jazzrocker> bimberi, or should that be in replacement of localhost
[12:39] <bruenig> ikonia, yeah, looks like format and fresh install will have to do
[12:39] <hjmills> bimberi: i know - i dont even count myself in that - but when i get round to it then i do actually plan on doing that. (without the off site fireproof safe bit)
[12:39] <helpmeplease> when i boot, it says its invalisd
[12:39] <bimberi> jazzrocker: nono.  leave localhost
[12:39] <jazzrocker> bimberi, btw, just as a TIAS i added the hostname on the next line with the eth0 ip
[12:39] <helpmeplease> so how do i fix it
[12:39] <ikonia> bruenig: if he's not done anything, probably best
[12:39] <svish> how do I start a program from the terminal, but kick it out so I can keep using the terminal?
[12:39] <jazzrocker> bimberi, but that didn't change the sudo problem
[12:39] <ikonia> nothing to lose
[12:39] <hjmills> i remember at my old school our fireproof safe was a cardboard box and the off site location was a bungalow in the school grounds
[12:39] <bruenig> helpmeplease, format then fresh install
[12:39] <helpmeplease> NO
[12:39] <sinisterguy> what file do i have to edit to add a kernel module to be loaded at boot
[12:39] <bruenig> ok
[12:39] <bruenig> well bye
[12:40] <hjmills> and at the place i work now we have a fireproof safe but its for another companies tapes
[12:40] <helpmeplease> please i dont want to lose data
[12:40] <hjmills> sinisterguy: /etc/modules
[12:40] <sleepy007> svish, alt F2
[12:40] <jazzrocker> helpmeplease, i want a pony
[12:40] <helpmeplease> aall the darn files are still there
[12:40] <soweto76> svish: please clarify
[12:40] <bruenig> helpmeplease, if you don't have a partition table, you cannot mount any of your partitions, therefore you cannot get your data, I mean what else do you want
[12:40] <jbroome> i'll knit you a pony out of puppies
[12:40] <helpmeplease> i can mount them
[12:40] <helpmeplease> in livecd
[12:40] <bimberi> jazzrocker: ok, my server has both foobar and foobar.org (and no line with the eth0 address)
[12:40] <hjmills> helpmeplease: sorry but you are going to have to face it - you probably will lose data - the best you can hope for is to not lose too much
[12:40] <sinisterguy> hjmills: thanks
[12:40] <Flannel> helpmeplease: then mount them and copy them off
[12:40] <jazzrocker> holy lolomfgbbq @ jbroome
[12:41] <sinisterguy> .quit
[12:41] <bruenig> helpmeplease, ok, I am not interpreting your comments correctly
[12:41] <helpmeplease> but when i try to boot up, it says the partition table is invalid
[12:41] <crimsun> jazzrocker: http://sc.tri-bit.com/images/2/23/pony.jpg
[12:41] <hjmills> helpmeplease: then go mount them, copy the data off and get on with your life surely?
[12:41] <jazzrocker> bimberi, in addition to the localhost bit?
[12:41] <svish> knew about alt+f2, but someone showed me something to write before the command or something. the program is kate. and when I write kate in the terminal, it opens, but keeps putting debugmessages or something in the terminal
[12:41] <jazzrocker> bimberi, sorry to be pedantic, just wanna make sure
[12:41] <hjmills> helpmeplease: so just use the live cd - grab a cd burner and a ton of cds and copy everything from the mounted partitions to cds - then try and fix the problem
[12:42] <helpmeplease> i dont want to format :( :( :(
[12:42] <ikonia> why ?
[12:42] <ikonia> do you have loads of data ?
[12:42] <jazzrocker> he's got too much warez
[12:42] <bruenig> you cannot burn from the live cd unless I guess you have two cd burners
[12:42] <helpmeplease> yes, gigs and gigs of stuff
[12:42] <bruenig> which would be impressive
[12:42] <ikonia> helpmeplease: then back it up
[12:42] <helpmeplease> i dont
[12:42] <Flannel> bruenig: only one burner, two drives.  which is common.
[12:42] <ikonia> whats all your data
[12:42] <jazzrocker> bruenig, or unless you have one ROM and one Burner
[12:42] <ikonia> what type it is
[12:42] <helpmeplease> back it up to what?
[12:42] <jazzrocker> bruenig, like me
[12:42] <jbroome> i knew crimsun would be summoned by mention of ponies
[12:42] <bruenig> Flannel, oh yeah didn't think of that
[12:42] <ikonia> what type of data is it
[12:42] <hjmills> bruenig: isnt the live cd system loaded to ram - also you only need one cd burner and a cd reader
[12:42] <helpmeplease> i have 1 drive
[12:43] <jazzrocker> bruenig, in fact that's usually the best way to go, then you don't wear out your burner playing DVD's
[12:43] <soweto76> svish: man xterm  --  xterm -e command, perhaps
[12:43] <bimberi> jazzrocker: yes, for example mine is: "<IP_ADDRESS>  foobar.org foobar localhost localhost.localdomain"
[12:43] <hjmills> and as dvd burners aren't that expensive anymore you could have 2 quite feasibly
[12:43] <hjmills> helpmeplease: an external drive over usb?
[12:43] <jazzrocker> bimberi, hmm, ok then, i'll try it... one sec
[12:43] <helpmeplease> i dont have one
[12:43] <hjmills> helpmeplease: a memory stick - then to another pc
[12:43] <svish> soweto76: no nothing like that. it was a single character of some sort..
[12:43] <bruenig> cheap ones are about 60 dollars
[12:43] <ikonia> helpmeplease: what type of data is it
[12:43] <helpmeplease> lots of stuff
[12:43] <hjmills> helpmeplease: just get the really important stuff off with a floppy disk
[12:43] <ikonia> like what
[12:44] <bimberi> ikonia: is it important?
[12:44] <bruenig> helpmeplease, maybe some usb flash drives
[12:44] <helpmeplease> ive got a 69 gig partition almost full
[12:44] <ikonia> yes
[12:44] <ikonia> helpmeplease: what sort of stuff ?
[12:44] <hjmills> bruenig: i can get them for about 20 which is about 40 us dollars
[12:44] <MasterShrek> porn
[12:44] <MasterShrek> haha
[12:44] <soweto76> svish:   xhcat &  when run from an xterm will do what you wany maybe -- see job control.

[12:44] <svish> soweto76: thanks
[12:44] <hjmills> helpmeplease: could you backup to another pc to backup
[12:44] <helpmeplease> its logal and not porn
[12:44] <bruenig> hjmills, well the lowest I could fine was 60 bucks
[12:45] <helpmeplease> i only have one pc
[12:45] <ikonia> helpmeplease: so what is it then
[12:45] <ikonia> why won't you answer
[12:45] <MasterShrek> u dont have to lie helpmeplease
[12:45] <MasterShrek> we can see through u
[12:45] <MasterShrek> through the lies
[12:45] <jazzrocker> ikonia, um... fourth amendmeht?
[12:45] <raid_synch_speed> hello everyone. could I ask someone some help with a raid1 array which is resynching very slooowly? thank you.
[12:45] <LameBMX> ty MasterShrek
[12:45] <ikonia> but he's asking for help
[12:45] <hjmills> bruenig: us dollars? odd - normally stuff here in the uk is more expensive - try www.ebuyer.com - i think it does the us as well
[12:45] <jazzrocker> ikonia, probably fith :)
[12:45] <bruenig> fourth amendment protects from unreasonable search and seizure
[12:45] <MasterShrek> im jus messin
[12:45] <MasterShrek> no hard feelings
[12:45] <helpmeplease> lots of stuff, files for work mostly
[12:45] <ikonia> helpmeplease: what type of data is it
[12:45] <ikonia> what type of files ?
[12:45] <jarrod10> !ask | raid_synch_speed
[12:45] <ubotu> raid_synch_speed: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:46] <helpmeplease> i cant afford to lose it
[12:46] <jazzrocker> bruenig, ummm yeah... in other words: privacy
[12:46] <ikonia> ok - you can't afford to lose it
[12:46] <ikonia> so what type of data is it
[12:46] <ikonia> you are dodging the question
[12:46] <LameBMX> i missed his question ... first thing i saw when i looked in here was: <helpmeplease> its logal and not porn
[12:46] <bruenig> jazzrocker, in other words: protection from abuse of government power
[12:46] <jazzrocker> bruenig, he doesn't have to disclose anything about the files on his computer
[12:46] <helpmeplease> mostly world and excel stuff
[12:46] <LameBMX> geez gotta luv irc
[12:46] <jazzrocker> bruenig, whatever, it was just a devils advocate moment
[12:46] <ikonia> you've got 69 gig of word and excel stuff on an ubuntu disk
[12:46] <Music_Shuffle> LameBMX, Lol. Agreed.
[12:46] <ikonia> ?
[12:46] <Peres> and what are u, from RIAA ikonia?
[12:46] <jazzrocker> bruenig, i don't really care lol
[12:46] <MasterShrek> helpmeplease u can always get the porn back via bittorrent
[12:46] <Peres> :)
[12:46] <hjmills> helpmeplease: you could try taking it to a professional data recovery firm - NOT a high street shop - they will probably assume its windows only and b0rk it entirely
[12:47] <helpmeplease> if i lose ubuntu its not a big loss
[12:47] <jazzrocker> ok, well i added said stuff to my /etc/hosts file
[12:47] <ikonia> mastershrek thats what I was trying to figure out if it could be compressed/and if its not re-sourceable
[12:47] <jazzrocker> but i still get the sudo error
[12:47] <ikonia> helpmeplease: just re-install ubuntu
[12:47] <hjmills> helpmeplease: they prob wont get back the win stuff either
[12:47] <helpmeplease> i cant lose my windows partition
[12:47] <jazzrocker> i logged out and back in with the non-root account
[12:47] <LameBMX> well helpmeplease whats up sit the drive ...
[12:47] <bruenig> helpmeplease, yeah I was trying to install gentoo on another partition and lost all of my stuff, music, videos, everything, many gigs of stuff. Only took a few weeks to get it all back, just find those torrents and get them back
[12:47] <Gosha> isn't there something like KShutDown for only ubuntu?
[12:47] <helpmeplease> and my darn partition table is "invalid", but i can mount my drives thru ubuntu
[12:47] <ikonia> 69 gig of word documents.....yeah yeah
[12:47] <bimberi> jazzrocker: is the output of the command 'hostname' on the <IP_ADDRESS> line (and it only)?
[12:47] <hjmills> helpmeplease: trust me - i work in one and the boss knows loads about windows but got confused trying to install something on linux when he couldnt find the program on the website
[12:48] <Gosha> !times_shutdown
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about times_shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <Gosha> !timed_shutdown
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timed_shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <ikonia> helpmeplease: what are you doing that tells you your partition table is invalid
[12:48] <Gosha> !shutdown
[12:48] <Flannel> Gosha: what do you need to know?
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <helpmeplease> booting up
[12:48] <martin__>
[12:48] <bruenig> !fishing
[12:48] <jazzrocker> bimberi, no, i copied exactly what you have
[12:48] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:48] <martin__>
[12:48] <genben> hi
[12:48] <ikonia> booting windows or linux
[12:48] <helpmeplease> before i get the selector
[12:48] <jazzrocker> bimberi, <IP_ADDRESS> foo.org foo localhost localhost.localdomain
[12:48] <LameBMX> Gosha, shutdown (-r -h) then time in seconds
[12:48] <Gosha> .. i want to shutdown ubuntu after a specified time
[12:48] <aN1> any1 use beryl?
[12:48] <Gosha> .. ?
[12:48] <helpmeplease> it stops there
[12:48] <jazzrocker> bimberi, all on the same line, and with my actual domain substituted for foo
[12:48] <ikonia> re-install ubuntu
[12:48] <Gosha> ooh
[12:48] <LameBMX> Gosha, sutdown -r now .... re boots the computer now
[12:48] <hjmills> helpmeplease: what did you do just before it became invalid?
[12:48] <genben> what is the name of the package that lets you enter alpha/num chars using the mouse (for the paranoid)?
[12:49] <sleepy007> aN1, yes
[12:49] <Gosha> .. so, no -r?
[12:49] <helpmeplease> nothing
[12:49] <jazzrocker> bimberi, in other words, 'foo.org' is the output of hostname
[12:49] <ikonia> I bet grub is looking on the wrong partition for menu.lst or something like that
[12:49] <Flannel> Gosha: yeah, just use the "shutdown" command, it's got built in time stuff.  man shutdown for formats on the times
[12:49] <LameBMX> gosha .. shutdown -h 6000
[12:49] <ekasad> Hello
[12:49] <bruenig> Gosha, sudo shutdown -h time
[12:49] <aN1> sleepy007,  omg plz help me i was messing around
[12:49] <LameBMX> Gosha, turns it off in ten minutes
[12:49] <bruenig> or should I say time elapsed
[12:49] <aN1> no i don't have cube anymore i have a pentagon
[12:49] <Gosha> ... time, in what?
[12:49] <helpmeplease> can i just write a new partition table?
[12:49] <hjmills> helpmeplease: this may help -
[12:49] <LameBMX> Gosha, seconds
[12:49] <bruenig> aN1, that is pretty impressive
[12:49] <bimberi> jazzrocker: ok, right.  then I'm starting to struggle
[12:49] <ikonia> helpmeplease: reinstall ubuntu
[12:49] <hjmills> helpmeplease: not without losing EVERYTHING
[12:49] <aN1> sleepy007,  how do i get back to a cube?
[12:49] <LameBMX> gosha also do 'man shutdown'
[12:49] <helpmeplease> wont help
[12:49] <hjmills> helpmeplease: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[12:49] <aN1> sleepy007, lol i don't want the pentagon
[12:49] <jazzrocker> bimberi, aight, well thanks anyway
[12:50] <ikonia> how do you know ?
[12:50] <Gosha> ... man shutdown?
[12:50] <Gosha> oh
[12:50] <jazzrocker> !hostname
[12:50] <Gosha> manual
[12:50] <bruenig> aN1, you went from a three dimensional object to a 2 dimensional object?
[12:50] <LameBMX> most ?'s can be answered by reading the man page and program --help
[12:50] <ikonia> re-install ubuntu
[12:50] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[12:50] <MTecknology> I'm trying to use gparted off of a live CD to make an extra partition to transfer data between Ubuntu and Windows. GParted seems to go through the motions of resizing the ext3 partition but doesn't actually resize it. This is the log when I run it from command line - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/401/ Anybody know why?
[12:50] <helpmeplease> reinstalling ubuntu wont help
[12:50] <LameBMX> Gosha, yea ..
[12:50] <helpmeplease> its in the partition table
[12:50] <sleepy007> aN1, beryl settings
[12:50] <ikonia> helpmeplease: then don't ask for help
[12:50] <jazzrocker> honestly, that doesn't really make sense
[12:50] <hjmills> !info testdisc
[12:50] <ubotu> Package testdisc does not exist in any distro I know
[12:50] <ikonia> then this isn't an ubnutu problem - get out
[12:50] <jazzrocker> /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname *cant* match
[12:50] <jazzrocker> not identically
[12:50] <helpmeplease> i get this before i get the selector screen for os
[12:50] <aN1> bruenig, no i had a 3d cube before now i have a 3 d pentagon without top and bottom
[12:50] <ikonia> helpmeplease: this isn't an ubuntu roblem
[12:50] <aN1> sleepy007,  yeah but which one?
[12:50] <bimberi> ikonia: for goodness sake
[12:50] <hjmills> helpmeplease: there is a program to fix it - http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[12:50] <ikonia> bimberi: well - he's not listening
[12:50] <MasterShrek> aN1 change ur settings so u have 4 sides
[12:51] <jazzrocker> well, ok it makes sense, but it's not very specific and it doesn't have a link
[12:51] <helpmeplease> its a partition table problem, and i'm in livecd
[12:51] <ikonia> I bet its the "invalid partition" warning from grub
[12:51] <aN1> MasterShrek,  where is dat?
[12:51] <ikonia> not invalid partition table
[12:51] <aN1> i looked every where
[12:51] <helpmeplease> grub isnt in mbr
[12:51] <aN1> can't find it anymore
[12:51] <ekasad> Is there anyone here that can offer any insight as to why the problem explained here occurs when trying to boot ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1964055
[12:51] <LameBMX> helpmeplease, its possible to rewrite the partitoin table .. did you back that up? if not the good luck with that one
[12:51] <sleepy007> aN1, wait
[12:51] <helpmeplease> no
[12:51] <MasterShrek> aN1 i couldnt tell u, ive never used it in ubuntu before
[12:51] <aN1> sleepy007, kk thx
[12:51] <aN1> ok
[12:51] <hjmills> helpmeplease: use one of these because you cant boot: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Livecd
[12:52] <ikonia> helpmeplease: so let me get this straight.
[12:52] <ikonia> you've not got grub
[12:52] <jazzrocker> ikonia, so kick him if you're an op (which you're not) or just /ignore him
[12:52] <ikonia> jazzrocker: this channel has so much noise
[12:52] <bimberi> ikonia: perhaps, but better just to say you can't help any more
[12:52] <helpmeplease> grub is not in the mbr
[12:52] <jazzrocker> ikonia, ungracious help is worse than no help
[12:52] <ikonia> why is someone asking for hardware help
[12:52] <LameBMX> aN1, whats up .. got a desktop pentagon instead of a cube?
[12:52] <xfrost>  How can I enable/disable boot-up services from the command line?.
[12:52] <helpmeplease> would putting it there make it boot?
[12:52] <meow^> i'm installing windows/ubuntu right now and i'm considering the same thing. if i were to partition a drive using fat32 would both os be able to write to it without having ot install extra software for ubuntu?
[12:53] <bimberi> xfrost: using the update-rc.d command
[12:53] <aN1> LameBMX,  yeah i want my cube back
[12:53] <ikonia> bimberi: I'd put money its not the partition table
[12:53] <aN1> lol
[12:53] <tritium> jazzrocker, ikonia: is there a problem?
[12:53] <jazzrocker> meow^, yeah but Fat32 sucks
[12:53] <Gosha> so .. lets see .. i wan to shutdown after 6 hours .. that's .. 60 * 60 * 6 , right?
[12:53] <LameBMX> an1 which version ..
[12:53] <ikonia> he can mount the partitions
[12:53] <ikonia> therefore there must be a partition table
[12:53] <aN1> LameBMX, 1.4
[12:53] <Gosha> want to*
[12:53] <ikonia> its probably the invalid partitoin warning
[12:53] <helpmeplease> i can mount them
[12:53] <kmasta> i just tried installing beryl and now my desktop is uber slow
[12:53] <ikonia> exactly !
[12:53] <helpmeplease> it says table
[12:53] <bimberi> tritium: s'ok (at present)
[12:53] <Peebo> 62% through downloading Ubuntu server CD and Firefox died. The .part file is still here, is there anyway to start the download from where it stopped
[12:54] <hjmills> helpmeplease: ok - mount anything you can and backup everything you need - grab a friends external hdd if you need to  then go here (http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page) and download that then go here (http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk) and learn to use test disc then boot from the SystemRescueCD and try and use TestDisc to recover the partition.
[12:54] <jazzrocker> meow^, there's really no good solution to that problem as of yet
[12:54] <tritium> bimberi: aye ;)
[12:54] <MasterShrek> Peebo start firefox up and look at your downloads
[12:54] <bimberi> ikonia: :)
[12:54] <MasterShrek> it might still show up
[12:54] <jazzrocker> meow^, i just run NTFS
[12:54] <ikonia> bimberi: pardon ?
[12:54] <jarrod10> helpmeplease: use an ipod as an hdd
[12:54] <svish> how do I find out what window manager im using?
[12:54] <jazzrocker> meow^, you can get write support for NTFS it's just extra... read support is default though, should be
[12:54] <ikonia> bimberi: missed the gag - sorry
[12:54] <Gosha> .. so i should do .. 'sudo shutdown -h -P 21600' right?
[12:54] <xfrost> bimberi, tnks a lot.
[12:54] <Peebo> It started from 0%
[12:54] <ikonia> the channels moving ar warp speed with random chatter
[12:54] <bimberi> ikonia: sorry, i was going to say something then i responded to tritiums post :/
[12:54] <jazzrocker> meow^, e.g. you'll have to download/install it separately
[12:54] <jazzrocker> !ntfs
[12:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:55] <bimberi> ikonia: without backspacing :)
[12:55] <ikonia> bimberi: totally missed it
[12:55] <Gosha> svish: check the about in help menu
[12:55] <ikonia> not to worry
[12:55] <meow^> i couldnt get fuse to work :(
[12:55] <jazzrocker> meow^, honestly i usually compile my own kernel and usually compile in NTFS write support, so i don't usually think about that
[12:55] <bazsl> I am trying to configure Samba on a machine with two network cards. Am I correct that I need two interface entries in smb.conf such as interfaces = eth0 and interfaces = eth1?
[12:55] <ikonia> bimberi: there is no way that was a partition table error if he could mount the partitions
[12:55] <LameBMX> an1 beryl settings manager ; general options ; main tab ; scroll down to "horizontal virtual size' and set that to 4 .. and it will be a cube .. or any other number if you want to play
[12:55] <Peres> and once again, its time...for off the hook
[12:55] <jazzrocker> meow^, there should be a kernel module somewhere iirc, for one of the default ubuntu kernels
[12:56] <svish> Gosha: what help menu?
[12:56] <aN1> LameBMX,  thank you soo very much
[12:56] <aN1> hehe
[12:56] <meow^> that sounds too advanced for me :)
[12:56] <ikonia> bimberi: thoughts
[12:56] <jazzrocker> meow^, did you check !ntfs-3g yet?
[12:56] <ikonia> ?
[12:56] <kmasta> why won't beryl work!
[12:56] <bimberi> ikonia: i agree (from the little i know about it)
[12:56] <maddash> how do I stop the kernel from auto-loading a certain module?
[12:56] <ikonia> bimberi: thats what was getting frustrating
[12:56] <LameBMX> np anytime ...
[12:56] <aN1> LameBMX i wish beryl will write a documentation soon
[12:56] <ikonia> he wouldn't listen
[12:56] <ikonia> he knew everything and wouldn't do anything
[12:56] <jazzrocker> meow^, bah, if you're using linux you really should get over the whole "i'm a dummy" complex, you won't get very far otherwise
[12:56] <LameBMX> fun setting to play with
[12:56] <ikonia> thats why I was getting frustrated
[12:56] <meow^> !ntfs-3g
[12:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:56] <Gosha> svish, in the window manager
[12:56] <bimberi> ikonia: fair enough :)  I just wanted to stop you boiling over :)
[12:57] <LameBMX> aN1, i really advise to keep the finger off the wheel when playing with settings ...
[12:57] <svish> Gosha: um.. lol.. where is that?
[12:57] <LameBMX> an1 that changes things really fast ...
[12:57] <aN1> LameBMX yeah that must been wut i have done
[12:57] <Gosha> svish, oh wait .. maybe nvm :P
[12:57] <aN1> always back up rite?
[12:57] <ikonia> bimberi: this channel is busy enough with random noise, then someone comes in asking for help - then says its not ubuntu - should he really be in here if he doesn't want to listen
[12:57] <ikonia> I know its harsh but this channel is filled with random noise
[12:57] <ikonia> some good problems get missed
[12:57] <svish> Gosha: lol, what??
[12:58] <Gosha> svish nvm nvm, thought you asked about the file manager
[12:58] <ikonia> I hope you see where I was coming from
[12:58] <LameBMX> an1 yea i hit the scroll wheel on water viscosity ... and my desktop turned into jello in the electric chair
[12:58] <jazzrocker> ikonia, and here you are futher contributing to the "noise" you so dislike by bitching about something when you could have used /ignore and been done with it...
[12:58] <ikonia> jazzrocker: thats a fair point
[12:58] <ikonia> just frustrating when you can see the problem
[12:58] <MasterShrek> ur all a bunch of whiners
[12:58] <LameBMX> aN1 .beryl/beryl-config or something like that if it gets fubared
[12:58] <aN1> LameBMX haha i can't imagine how u got it back to hormall
[12:58] <maddash> is it possible to disable the autoload of certain modules?
[12:59] <genben> hi, what is the name of the package that lets you enter alpha/num chars using the mouse (for the paranoid)?
[12:59] <jazzrocker> maddash, yes, modules.conf i beleive
[12:59] <Gosha> can i .. reinject the CD i just ejected?
[12:59] <Gosha> !inject
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inject - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <ikonia> jazzrocker: can you blacklist in modules.conf ?
[12:59] <Gosha> !fishinf
[12:59] <LameBMX> an1 .beryl/settings ... then .beryl-managerrc (advanced beryl options in the drop down menu)
[12:59] <Gosha> !fishing
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fishinf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:59] <aN1> LameBMX yeah thx a whole bunch, can't wait they release 7.04 with beryl already built in
[12:59] <CHiNiLLo> buenas
[12:59] <LameBMX> ah
[12:59] <ikonia> aN1: you'll get some great help on xgl/beryl in ubuntu-xgl
[12:59] <aN1> LameBMX and seriously beryl team needs to do more documentation
[12:59] <Peres> irc://irc.2600.net/offthehook
[12:59] <ikonia> some really clued up gues on it
[12:59] <jazzrocker> maddash, mmm, dunno, it's been a while for me on *nix, i've got bits of FreeBSD and RedHat running around mixed in with Debian and Slackware lol
[01:00] <maddash> jazzrocker: /etc/modules.conf?
[01:00] <LameBMX> tech supportin that will be a pain .. i suggested in their dev channel to kill the scroll bar ... too easy to make things unusable
[01:00] <Peebo> !beryl
[01:00] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:00] <jazzrocker> maddash, if i'm not mistaken yes
[01:00] <aN1> ikonia, yeah i no i should ask there but im new to irc so i don't even know how to connect there lol
[01:00] <ikonia> jazzrocker: not sure you can blacklist modules in modules.conf
[01:00] <ikonia> just force load
[01:00] <maddash> jazzrocker: don't have it there
[01:00] <ikonia> aN1: "join ubuntu-xgl" same way you did for this chanel
[01:00] <LameBMX> an1 i dont find the documentation lacking ... everything seems straight forward to me ...
[01:01] <LameBMX> an1 and i just play with things and see what they do lol
[01:01] <ikonia> aN1: that should read "/join #ubuntu-xgl"
[01:01] <kmasta> can some one please help me with beryl, i don't think my 3D accelleration is working
[01:01] <tritium> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is where you can blacklist modules
[01:01] <ikonia> kmasta: the beryl support channel is #ubuntu-xgl
[01:01] <aN1> ikonia,  hehe thx
[01:01] <ikonia> tritium: thats the one
[01:01] <LameBMX> kmasta, glxinfo | grep direct ... just like in the howto
[01:01] <LameBMX> !beryl
[01:01] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:01] <ikonia> didn't think you could do i in modules.conf
[01:01] <raid_synch_speed> !raid
[01:01] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:02] <Mamasan> Hey, can anyone help me with some USB issues I'm having?
[01:02] <maddash> that's b/c there is no modules.conf
[01:02] <daviey> Hi, anybody using bluetooth to share files from pc to mobile/cell?
[01:02] <raid_synch_speed> !speed_limit_min
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speed_limit_min - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <raid_synch_speed> !speed_limit_max
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speed_limit_max - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <Flannel> raid_synch_speed: please stop fishing.  If you really want to, do it in a query with ubtou
[01:03] <tritium> !fishing > raid_synch_speed
[01:03] <Mamasan> !usb
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <tritium> *sigh*
[01:04] <ikonia> tritium: welcome to tonights frustration
[01:04] <ikonia> although I vented it badley
[01:04] <jakob> What's the difference between $ and # in the terminal?
[01:05] <Nvening> hi
[01:05] <raid_synch_speed> Flannel, sorry
[01:05] <MasterShrek> hi Nvening
[01:05] <crimsun> normally, an unprivileged user's and a root user's prompt, respectively, jakob
[01:05] <MasterShrek> whats up
[01:05] <Nvening> Is the max file size limit of ext3 16GB??
[01:05] <cyphase> the recent firefox upgrade is incompatible with the themes from firefox-themes-ubuntu
[01:05] <MTecknology> how do I mount /dev/hda as read/write??
[01:05] <jakob> crimsun how do I change it to #?
[01:05] <crimsun> jakob: sudo -i
[01:05] <ikonia> jakob: PS1=#
[01:06] <Mamasan> Hey, I just installed ubuntu.  When I boot up now, my usb keyboard and mouse arn't being initilized.  Any ideas?
[01:06] <aN1> LameBMX,  hehe u proved me wrong there are alot of posts t.t put down again
[01:06] <jakob> thanks, how do I change it back?
[01:06] <MasterDirk> I tried the live-cd, it didn't work at all. What's a good next move?
[01:06] <ikonia> PS1=$
[01:06] <MTecknology> MasterDirk, what happened?
[01:06] <h3xis> LameBMX, tirus89 show his face in here yet?
[01:06] <Nvening> ikona, help me please :)
[01:06] <ikonia> Nvening: whats up
[01:06] <LameBMX> roflmao
[01:06] <MasterDirk> It said X (?) didn't initialise
[01:06] <ikonia> MasterDirk: using ATI video card ?
[01:06] <Nvening> what is the max file size limit of ext3?
[01:07] <MasterDirk> yes
[01:07] <Nvening> i google it but got mixed results
[01:07] <MTecknology> how do I mount /dev/hda as read/write??
[01:07] <ikonia> Nvening: not sure of the top of my head, but its something silly like 24 gig
[01:07] <Nvening> well wikipedia says 16gm
[01:07] <h3xis> MTecknology, in fstab add the "rw" option
[01:07] <ikonia> thats possible, but I thought it was bigger
[01:07] <Nvening> see its form media so it needs to be considered
[01:07] <MTecknology> h3xis, never used fstab
[01:07] <aN1> Nvening in fstab change default to unmask=0222
[01:08] <LameBMX> no i havent seen tirus
[01:08] <h3xis> MTecknology, you should learn to use it, it's quite important. it's in /etc/fstab
[01:08] <LameBMX> h3xis, ^
[01:08] <h3xis> ah
[01:08] <h3xis> im sure he'll be in
[01:08] <sleepy007> MTecknology, , what file system
[01:08] <LameBMX> i hope so ...
[01:08] <LameBMX> kinda
[01:08] <h3xis> "liek omg you guys i got edgy to workk!"
[01:08] <h3xis> if he says that
[01:08] <Nvening> aN1, what will that do?
[01:08] <h3xis> i'll kill him
[01:08] <LameBMX> roflmao
[01:08] <MTecknology> sleepy007, I want to mount to whole disk so I can change the partitions.
[01:08] <aN1> ? omg sorri i typed it to wrong guy
[01:08] <LameBMX> i dont that it will be that way though ... but i could still be wrong
[01:08] <Nvening> kk
[01:08] <aN1> he was asking how to mount something read and write
[01:08] <aN1> lol
[01:09] <Nvening> ok then, the ext3 driver on windows, is that stable??
[01:09] <ikonia> Nvening: I've got a note here that says 36gb
[01:09] <Nvening> i see, well 16GB is fine anyway!
[01:09] <MasterDirk> so, I can't use a Live-CD with an ATI card?
[01:10] <Nvening> ye u can
[01:10] <MasterShrek> u should be able to MasterDirk
[01:10] <Nvening> it includes OS drivers
[01:10] <Nvening> but
[01:10] <Nvening> u can get jerking issues
[01:10] <aN1> Masterdirk hold on
[01:10] <MTecknology> h3xis, there is no /etc/fstab
[01:10] <aN1> i know how to do it but i forgot the location
[01:10] <MasterDirk> holding :)
[01:10] <Nvening> so i use the official ones once installed
[01:10] <h3xis> MTecknology, there is.
[01:11] <MasterDirk> Is there any site where I can check whether any other HW I have will have issues? It'd be nice to know before installing (kind of why I wanted to try the live-cd)
[01:11] <MegaTrousers> Can anyone help me a moment? My virtual consoles all appear corrupt when I ctrl-alt-F_ to them. When I run fglrxinfo, I get "OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 Generic". I am running this on Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 on an ASUS A7J laptop. Hardware acceleration appears to work under virtual window f7, the gui, when I run tuxracer and the like.
[01:12] <agent> anyone know of software that creates tutorials/presentations of *software*? looking to create a tutorial on how to use a program. like wink, but foss?
[01:12] <aN1> MasterDirk,  go to terminal type sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:12] <MegaTrousers> agent: Checkout OpenOffice Presentation
[01:12] <MegaTrousers> Ok
[01:12] <nikin> MasterDir: the best is to google everything.
[01:12] <ikonia> Nvening: its 2 TB
[01:12] <aN1> MasterDirk, under device change the driver to vesa
[01:12] <ikonia> just read it from the kernel
[01:12] <aN1> MasterDirk,  that will get u the graphic desktop
[01:12] <MegaTrousers> MasterDirk: Ok
[01:12] <MTecknology> h3xis, nope - but I am on ubuntu live
[01:13] <aN1> then search around to install ati oss drivers for good performance
[01:13] <h3xis> MTecknology, might be why
[01:13] <MegaTrousers> MasterDirk: But won't my ATI driver be gone?
[01:13] <MegaTrousers> oss is for sound, not video?
[01:13] <jakob> can someone tell me what this means "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[01:13] <MTecknology> h3xis, but I can't edit partitions that i'm working on
[01:13] <agent> MegaTrousers: oo presentation is just a normal slideshow presentation software... im trying to create a video presentation with nice popup messages on how to use a particulare piece of software
[01:13] <aN1> MasterDirk, if that still fails try to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[01:13] <MegaTrousers> This happened as soon as I ugraded from dapper to edgy
[01:13] <aN1> maybe u have ur mointor set up wrong
[01:13] <sleepy007> jakob, run tahat
[01:13] <MasterDirk> OK, I'll write those down and try. Thanks
[01:13] <Nvening> oh cool ikona,i shouldnt have any problems with that!!!!!
[01:13] <sleepy007> jakob, run that and wait
[01:14] <sleepy007> jakob, it will fix itself
[01:14] <MasterDirk> Can't really have it set up wrong, it's a laptop :)
[01:14] <agent> jakob: that means some piece of software did not finish configuring itself when you updated or installed it
[01:14] <aN1> MasterDirk,  worst come to worst get the alternative install cd it will install ubuntu using text mode
[01:14] <sleepy007> jakob, yes
[01:14] <nikin> MasterDir: Laptops are Evil
[01:14] <ikonia> Nvening: I date you to utilise that !
[01:14] <mnoir> jakob: it prolly means that dpkg was interrupted and to fix it you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'.
[01:14] <ikonia> s/date/dare
[01:14] <MasterDirk> Laptops are sweet. Wouldn't want things to be easy, would you?
[01:15] <aN1> ikonia fruodian slip
[01:15] <MegaTrousers> MasterDirk: I don't want to replace my ATI driver with VESA. That isn't fixing the problem, just replacing it with a generic driver.
[01:15] <darwinuse> hey
[01:15] <MegaTrousers> MasterDirk: Any ideas?
[01:15] <MasterDirk> hm? Asking me? I'm the newbie here :)
[01:15] <jakob> sleepy007, agent and mnoir I end up with some EULA for VMWARE each time I run that.
[01:15] <maddash> hey, it's h3xis
[01:15] <darwinuse> anyone hear about the FSF anti-microsoft run they started last month
[01:15] <darwinuse> its awesome
[01:16] <stoan>  /nick recon
[01:16] <h3xis> omg maddash
[01:16] <mnoir> jakob: so?
[01:16] <Flannel> darwinuse: #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit-chat, thanks.
[01:16] <MasterShrek> MegaTrousers go to ati's website and download the driver
[01:16] <darwinuse> sorry
[01:16] <nikin> MasterDir: i have 2 laptops... i know :D but i came across some weird things. Like the BIOS operating system setting.
[01:16] <rukuartic> Hey all. I'm looking to drop windows back on my laptop for a lan party... I've got a 4th partition for it so Ubuntu'll still stick there, but I know windows scrubs the MBR. How would I install GRUB again?
[01:16] <MegaTrousers> MasterShrek: I already have it installed...
[01:16] <Flannel> !grub | rukuartic
[01:16] <ubotu> rukuartic: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:16] <MegaTrousers> aN1: I don't want to replace my ATI driver with VESA. That isn't fixing the problem, just replacing it with a generic driver.
[01:16] <agent> jakob: why are you trying to install vmware? vmware is not freedom software.... try qemu or, must faster than vwmware or qemu, xen
[01:16] <nikin> MasterDirk: but it will be fine :D
[01:16] <rukuartic> Flannel: Awesome! Thank you.
[01:16] <MasterShrek> and it still doesnt work MegaTrousers ?
[01:16] <MegaTrousers> MasterShrek: That's right
[01:17] <MasterShrek> use an older driver
[01:17] <aN1> MegaTrouser u have the lastes driver and tiz not workin?
[01:17] <recon> rukuartic: I'd recommend making a grub boot disk, then running grub-install on ubuntu once you finish the install.
[01:17] <jakob> agent how do I get rid of it? I'm trying to install java, but each time I end up with the vmware
[01:17] <MegaTrousers> aN1: That's right. Latest that come with Ubuntu
[01:17] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  u have proprietary driveR?
[01:17] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  ubuntu doesn't pack with the lastest
[01:17] <MegaTrousers> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[01:17] <MegaTrousers> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 Generic
[01:17] <MegaTrousers> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)
[01:17] <darwinuse> I want to install Ubuntu 6.10 onto my pc with windows on it already, I have the DVD in shipment to me atm but is it safe to put Ubuntu 6.10 on now? someone told me it takes a year to be cooked with each update?
[01:17] <aN1> MegaTrousers, let me give u a link
[01:17] <agent> jakob: find out the package name of vmware (may be just vmware) and try: sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware
[01:18] <MegaTrousers> I have installed the ATI driver from their website before on Debian, but won't that conflict with the one that comes with Ubuntu?
[01:18] <Astaroth_> i was trying to build my own kernel, was using this manual: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158 | when i boot my kernel it stops at " Begin: Waiting for root file system..." the thread says i gotta activate s-ata support, which i did, but its still stopping there
[01:18] <agent> jakob: if that does not work, try: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:18] <zenwhen> o
[01:18] <Nvening> is that agent from hexus?
[01:18] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[01:18] <ikonia> Astaroth_: you sure it says "waiting"
[01:18] <MegaTrousers> Thanks
[01:18] <aN1> follow this link it should work the graphic one is here
[01:18] <ConvertOne> good night................................................................
[01:18] <agent> Nvening: no
[01:19] <Nvening> gah
[01:19] <MegaTrousers> aN1: And so I should not worry about the one that comes with Edgy?
[01:19] <Astaroth_> ikonia: yep, but after a minute or two it says it could not be loaded
[01:19] <Nvening> well we still have ikona :)
[01:19] <MegaTrousers> Just follow the instructions as is and they will overwrite?
[01:19] <jakob> agent I tried the remove, but it gave me this again "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.". And if I run that I get the wmvare EULA again
[01:19] <MegaTrousers> aN1: That ok?
[01:19] <ikonia> Astaroth_: can you get the exact error
[01:19] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  u can uninstall the restricted module first
[01:19] <MegaTrousers> What is it called?
[01:19] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  but u will loose gui
[01:19] <ikonia> Astaroth_: don't forget you have to build disk drivers into the kernels - not modules
[01:19] <aN1> if itz ok with u
[01:19] <recon39> hello everyone I am trying to install mythtv on ubuntu but gdebi won't install it does anyone know how to install package on ubuntu
[01:19] <MegaTrousers> aN1: Ok
[01:20] <MegaTrousers> aN1: What is it called?
[01:20] <aN1> here is a graphic one with alot of pix http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[01:20] <xfrost> How can I enable/disable boot-up services on the command line?.
[01:20] <Astaroth_> ikonia: its drivers, but how can i make sure i activated the sata thing?
[01:20] <jakob> agent, tried the "sudo apt-get -f install" it gave me the same output
[01:20] <darwinuse> anyone? I want to install Ubunti 6.10 with windows xp, i have been told its not wise because Ubuntu updates takee  a year to cook, is that the case?
[01:20] <MasterShrek> recon39 compile it from source
[01:20] <darwinuse> is it wise?
[01:20] <ikonia> Astaroth_: build sata drivers into the kernels
[01:20] <ikonia> not as modules
[01:20] <aN1> MegaTrousers,  just use the two links i gave u it should work im no ati user so can only help u dis much and wuts wut calleD?
[01:20] <Nvening> is journaling the only difference between ext2 and ext3, no differences in fiel size limits?
[01:20] <agent> darwinuse: why are you trying to cook your computer?
[01:20] <Nvening> *file
[01:20] <ikonia> Nvening: I think there is
[01:20] <ikonia> ext2 smaller
[01:20] <agent> darwinuse: are you out of food?
[01:20] <ikonia> but I'm not certain
[01:21] <darwinuse> lol
[01:21] <MegaTrousers> aN1: The package for the driver I am using?
[01:21] <Astaroth_> ikonia: yeah i did, is it just the "support for sata" thing?
[01:21] <recon39> mastershrek I don't know how to compile it from source could you fill me in please
[01:21] <darwinuse> seriously is it smart to install 6.10 now? or 6.06 and install the updates?
[01:21] <xfrost> How can I enable/disable boot-up services on the command line?.
[01:21] <klees> can someone help me write a script that modifies /etc/fstab with the results from blkid??
[01:21] <ikonia> no
[01:21] <ikonia> Astaroth_: no
[01:21] <Astaroth_> ikonia: because the description says there are two sata drivers
[01:21] <ikonia> Astaroth_: you need to include the correct chipset
[01:21] <Astaroth_> cant find the second
[01:21] <MasterShrek> heh, recon39 thats probably not your best bet really, u shold see if its located in a repo somewhere
[01:21] <Astaroth_> ikonia: so?
[01:21] <Nvening> well basically i need my media drive acessable in both ubuntu and in windows
[01:21] <becky_> Hi everyone, I am in a terminal at the moment, trying to execute a .jar file, but all I am getting is an error: "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from...2
[01:22] <becky_> Hi everyone, I am in a terminal at the moment, trying to execute a .jar file, but all I am getting is an error: "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from..."*
[01:22] <aN1> Megatrousers, : ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run
[01:22] <ikonia> Nvening: ext is not a good idea
[01:22] <Nvening> why?
[01:22] <ikonia> Astaroth_: so have you built in the correct sata chipset
[01:22] <ikonia> Nvening: ext reading from windows is weak
[01:22] <nikin> darwinuse.. erase XP :D  bytheway  think a clean 6.10 would be better, but thats just my opinion
[01:22] <Nvening> right
[01:22] <Nvening> ok
[01:22] <Astaroth_> ikonia: i dunno, where are they?
[01:22] <rukuartic> klees: Can't you just put it in normally?
[01:22] <Nvening> better ideas?
[01:22] <recon39> I don't know alot about ubuntu i am new at this i have been on windows too long
[01:22] <Ralith> in Xubuntu, is the default suspend action suspend to disk, or suspend to ram?
[01:22] <darwinuse> nikin i use xp for call of duty 2 and other stuff lol
[01:22] <ikonia> Astaroth_: in the kernel drivers section
[01:22] <agent> jakob: what about: sudo dpkg --purge vmware
[01:23] <ikonia> Astaroth_: why are you building your own kernel
[01:23] <agent> jakob: and why did you try to install vmware!
[01:23] <klees> rukuartic: that's what im doing right now but i would like to automate my "restore" process
[01:23] <Nvening> i setup ntfs in ubuntu but i hear thats weak too
[01:23] <rukuartic> klees: I'm not too swift at perl... sorry. :( There's ways to do it though.
[01:23] <ikonia> Nvening: there isn't really a cross platform file system thats stable yet
[01:23] <agent> jakob: do you use automatix or some other software like it?
[01:23] <nikin> darwinuse... i ame just now installing guildwars on ubuntu... i hope it works :D maybe there is a way to get call of Duty to :D
[01:23] <logivision> I'm looking to use PC Anywhere on a linux machine. On their website they say they only support Red Hat, SuSe, and a couple other distributions but NOT Ubuntu. Will it still work if I install it, or is there a way to get it to work ?
[01:23] <rukuartic> klees: /msg me and let me see what I can do. I might be able to patch something
[01:23] <sleepy009> ntfs-3g ext2fs work for me good
[01:23] <Nvening> how stable is fat32?
[01:23] <klees> rukuartic: i was wondering of a bash script
[01:23] <DaveOst> hi all
[01:23] <aN1> Astaroth u shouldn't build ur own kernel unless some specific hardware u use needs kernel to be configured a certain way
[01:23] <Astaroth_> ikonia: i want my bootup to be faster, also my sound doesnt work, i want alsa to be built in
[01:24] <jakob> agent, yes I did
[01:24] <ikonia> Astaroth_: a custom kernel won't boot faster
[01:24] <agent> !automatix | jakob
[01:24] <ubotu> jakob: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:24] <aN1> Astaroth_,  if u compile ur own u will loose supprot from ubuntu updates
[01:24] <Nvening> let me look at ntfs-3g hang ob
[01:24] <mnoir> Nvening: fat32 is pretty good
[01:24] <DaveOst> hey, anyone here, that speaks german_
[01:24] <ikonia> why do you want alsa built in
[01:24] <darwinuse> yeah but I was told that I can't use certain irc clients on ubuntu 6.10 if I install it
[01:24] <becky_> Does anyone know how to execute a .jar file from the terminal?
[01:24] <aN1> the kernel part atleast
[01:24] <ikonia> and we can fix your sound card with the ubuntu kernel
[01:24] <ikonia> Nvening: I really wouldn't
[01:24] <Astaroth_> so well
[01:24] <ikonia> for a stable system Nvening
[01:24] <Astaroth_> i'm using the generic kernel
[01:24] <hyperb0lix> becky_: I'm sure the java program can do that
[01:24] <ikonia> its ood but buggy
[01:24] <ikonia> Astaroth_: why is that a problem
[01:25] <jakob> agent, how about the add/remove mentioned in the programs tab
[01:25] <ikonia> the generic kernel is good
[01:25] <agent> jakob: try the automatix channel, but don't tell them automatix broke your install (even though it did) because they all have very big egos and will not help you
[01:25] <Astaroth_> sound was working while i used the 386 kernel
[01:25] <darwinuse> astaroth for you to be able to even make a kernel is better than i'll ever make it to
[01:25] <Flannel> becky_: java
[01:25] <becky_> hyperb0lix: I did 'java -jar thejar.jar' and it returned that error ^^^
[01:25] <ikonia> I'm sure we can fix your sound issues
[01:25] <hyperb0lix> becky_: Ooh, error... what was the msg?
[01:25] <DaveOst> somebody there who helps a newbie with a big login problem?
[01:25] <Nvening> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[01:25] <jakob> agent, lol. I think I might have fixed it, I tried uninstalling it through automatix and though it gave me an error it seems it's now gone
[01:25] <agent> jakob: not sure which add/remove you are talking about, but you can always try it.... you have to realize that synaptic and add/remove both use apt-get
[01:25] <Astaroth_> but smp wasnt, nvidia driver were not working, now i fixed it and i can boot with the generic kernel
[01:26] <logivision> Dave0st: don't ask for help, just ask your questions.
[01:26] <becky_> hyperb0lix: "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from theJarfile.jar"
[01:26] <mnoir> DaveOst: not if you do not ask a real question
[01:26] <Astaroth_> but since the first boot sound doesnt work anymore
[01:26] <agent> jakob: do yourself a favor and remove automatix before you break something else :)
[01:26] <DaveOst> okey :P
[01:26] <aN1> Astaroth to have smp u need to pic the write cd to install from but there is another way
[01:26] <Astaroth_> i'm using a terratec aureon 5.1 usb mkii / usb-audio
[01:26] <becky_> hyperb0lix: It's not the jar file either, it happens with all of them, from multiple sources.
[01:26] <aN1> hold on i have a post deep somewhere
[01:26] <nikin> compiling wine is a fine and long coffe break :D
[01:26] <Astaroth_> aN1: it already works now
[01:26] <dredhammer> hello i recently upgraded to Edgy from Dapper and now my dvd movies  dont play all the way through they stop at accessing the second layer and i get a message about not having libdvdcss
[01:26] <ikonia> aN1: no you don't
[01:26] <dredhammer> which i do have installed
[01:26] <rukuartic> nikin: Agreed!
[01:26] <hyperb0lix> becky_: Hmm, not sure - I'll google what I can
[01:26] <ikonia> aN1: the livecd will install an smp kernel
[01:26] <becky_> hyperb0lix: Thanks
[01:27] <Nvening> i have an idea
[01:27] <Astaroth_> the generic kernel supports smp, so that problem is solved
[01:27] <rukuartic> dredhammer: apt-get install libdecss2 perhaps
[01:27] <ikonia> Astaroth_: exactly
[01:27] <dv_> I still want SATA hotswappong.
[01:27] <darwinuse> i tried to put wine on darwin , didn't work out well
[01:27] <hyperb0lix> becky_: You're using the java that's installed...?
[01:27] <rukuartic> dredhammer: Sorry, libdvdcss2
[01:27] <Astaroth_> there's just my sound issue remaining
[01:27] <hyperb0lix> becky_: It's the java-common package, if I can recall correctly
[01:27] <becky_> hyperb0lix, yep.
[01:27] <ikonia> whats the problem with the sound - is the device there, can apps see the sound card, is alsamixer working etc etc
[01:27] <hyperb0lix> becky_: I just install the JDK from Sun's site
[01:27] <jakob> agent, do you know how I get to the automatix channel?
[01:28] <agent> jakob: also, run sudo apt-get -f install and then sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:28] <becky_> hyperb0lix: I'll give that a go. Hand about.
[01:28] <becky_> hang*
[01:28] <Astaroth_> the sound config in gnome recongnizes the soundcard but there's just no sound output
[01:28] <dredhammer> what repository do i have to enable for that?
[01:28] <agent> jakob: not sure what it is, but you can try typing in /j #automatix
[01:28] <Astaroth_> i'm getting error messages, sec
[01:28] <aN1> Astaroth, sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[01:28] <n2diy> ! automatix | jacob
[01:28] <ubotu> jacob: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:28] <agent> jakob: #automatix is the channel that i am guessing and /j is short of /join
[01:28] <jakob> agent, I finally got it fixed. Apparantly I was able to click ok within the vmware text and click don't accept
[01:28] <maddash> can someone tell me how to disable the autoload of particular kernel modules
[01:29] <aN1> Astaroth, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917
[01:29] <Astaroth_> aN1: i'm using the generic kernel, no need for a patch, but thanks ;)
[01:29] <darwinuse> does anyone else not like katie couric besides me?
[01:29] <darwinuse> lol
[01:29] <aN1> ok
[01:29] <jakob> thanks for your help agent =)
[01:29] <Slart> maddash: there is a blacklist.. I used it for ipv6
[01:29] <darwinuse> *turns CBS news off*
[01:29] <agent> jakob: now just run what i mentioned above to make sure everything is clean and remove automatix :)
[01:29] <ikonia> maddash: titanium told you earlier
[01:29] <sleepy009> becky_, java -server -jar name.jar
[01:29] <maddash> slart: where?
[01:29] <Slart> maddash: it's something like /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:29] <agent> jakob: friends don't let friends run automatix
[01:29] <agent> :)
[01:29] <zan_d> hello
[01:29] <maddash> ikonia: I pressed "ctrl+d" and my log erased itself
[01:29] <Astaroth_> i'm getting a message like "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Couldn't open resource for writing" when i test alsa
[01:30] <DaveOst> ive installed ubuntu for the first time, when I executed the "sudo oem-config-prepare" i gave my account a wrong loginname.  Then I tried to correct it. and i gave my account a wrong location to store my personal data (i dont know how you call this folder in english)   But my problem ist, that i cant login anymore
[01:30] <zan_d> so i have a laptop with busted cd drive, i installed ubuntu on the HD in a desktop machine
[01:30] <zan_d> but now my video settings are screwed, so i can't startx
[01:30] <LameBMX> Astaroth_,
[01:30] <ikonia> is your user in the audio group
[01:30] <aN1> Jakob, haha soo funny friends don't let friends run automatix
[01:30] <recon39> does anyone know how to install a package that gdebi won't install
[01:30] <aN1> yeah use easyubuntu
[01:30] <ikonia> recon39: apt-get
[01:30] <mnoir> DaveOst: are you logged in now?
[01:30] <aN1> dpkg -i
[01:31] <dredhammer> where can i find libdvdcss2?
[01:31] <bimberi> maddash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:31] <becky_> hyperb0lix/sleepy009: installing JDK fixed it, I now ever have an option when right clicking the file to run in java runtime environment, thanks all for help - Becky out.
[01:31] <DaveOst> i am running the live cd
[01:31] <Astaroth_> ikonia: sure, sound was working with the 386 kernel
[01:31] <ikonia> dredhammer: check the wiki for "restricted formats"
[01:31] <mnoir> oic
[01:31] <recon39> is that through the terrmanal
[01:31] <Flannel> !libdvdcss
[01:31] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:31] <hyperb0lix> becky_: np
[01:31] <becky_> cheers
[01:31] <aN1> recon39, yeah
[01:31] <nikin> DaveOst: do you have any other logins?
[01:31] <recon39> thanks
[01:31] <aN1> np
[01:31] <DaveOst> no, just this one
[01:31] <DaveOst> and mayebe root
[01:31] <DaveOst> but i dont now a password for root
[01:31] <LameBMX> Astaroth_,  ... suco nano /etc/group        ... and append your name to audio ... like : audio:*:29:lamebmx
[01:32] <zan_d> can i reinstall without a cd
[01:32] <mnoir> DaveOst: what do you mean wrong? please give more detail
[01:32] <maddash> bimberi: should I create one b/c it doesn't exist in /etc/modprobes.d
[01:32] <zan_d> i do have internet connection on it
[01:32] <DaveOst> hm
[01:32] <nikin> DaveOst: there is no root by default in Ubuntu
[01:32] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, thats sudo nano
[01:32] <Astaroth_> yeah i know
[01:32] <jj1> hey ,i have a huge issue here i cant log on to windows, its a boot loaer issue
[01:32] <Nvenin1> what a linux alternative to MS publisher?
[01:32] <DaveOst> wait a minute please, its not easy to write in english :)
[01:32] <mnoir> Nvenin1: pub is a sore point for conversion
[01:32] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, thats what fixed that error for me ...
[01:32] <Astaroth_> my name is on the list
[01:32] <sleepy009> Nvenin1, scribus
[01:32] <kingace> jjl: whats the issue
[01:32] <bimberi> maddash: yes, and add lines like "blacklist modulename" to it
[01:32] <squidly> lol english is not easy for thoes who speak it! lol ^^
[01:32] <Nvenin1> is it any good?
[01:33] <Slart> Nvenin: scribus is good.. don't know if it's the perfect replacement
[01:33] <ikonia> Nvening: its ok
[01:33] <LameBMX> you can also try editing the menus to have gksudo in front of them
[01:33] <mnoir> Nvenin1: there is no auto conversion - we manually converted
[01:33] <ikonia> good for basic use
[01:33] <kingace> Nvenin1: not if your looking for all the built in templates
[01:33] <ikonia> I can't use it in advanved ways
[01:33] <squidly> Slart: replacement for what?
[01:33] <Nvenin1> no templates here
[01:33] <Slart> squidly: MS publisher
[01:33] <agent> DaveOst: what language do you write in well?
[01:33] <kingace> Nvenin1: for example if you want it to generate 100 thank you cards from templates, not happening
[01:33] <squidly> Slart: ahh
[01:33] <mnoir> Nvenin1: but oo write does everything and more than pub
[01:33] <dredhammer> anyone on Edgy having problems with commercial dvd playback? When the second disk  layer has to be read i get an error about not having libdvdcss which is installed
[01:33] <jj1> kingace:i done some thing with a partition in windows, now it wont boot
[01:33] <IndyTim> Quick fstab question.. I'm running Kubuntu Edgy and I want to duplicate one of my mounted partitions and assign something more meaningful than sdb3 (ie LinuxBU).  Can I dup the fstab line for the sdb3 and assign it to a newly created folder in /media  (dazed and confused over the uuid=)?
[01:33] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: so this still doesnt solve this issue
[01:34] <ikonia> dredhammer: check the wiki I sent you
[01:34] <Nvenin1> i just basically use it like word, i prefer text boxes system etc unless im writing an essay
[01:34] <kingace> jjl: what did you do
[01:34] <nikin> DaveOst: thats a problem.. if you realy dont know the root passwd
[01:34] <ikonia> it tells you how to set it all up
[01:34] <LameBMX> did you just change it Astaroth_
[01:34] <LameBMX> or was it already like that
[01:34] <kingace> what software do you guys use to design website mockups?
[01:34] <Astaroth_> it was already there
[01:34] <amir> How do I get my surround 5.1 to work?
[01:34] <DaveOst> if you install unbuntu for the first time, the folder where your personal data is stored is named "oem".  I renamed my folder without creating it. Now ubuntu tells me, that my folder is not exsisting.
[01:34] <Slart> dredhammer: mm.. I'm having problems with multi-language discs... but it's watchable.. most of the time
[01:34] <DaveOst> i never created a root account nikin
[01:35] <ikonia> Astaroth_: thats very strange
[01:35] <foomanchew> anyone running Halflife 2 on Ubuntu ?
[01:35] <logivision> I want to use some software called PC Anywhere on some linux machines. It says that it's only suports Red Hat, SuSe, as well as a couple other distributions. Is there a way to get it to work on Ubuntu ???
[01:35] <rukuartic> foomanchew: I wish I could :3
[01:35] <Astaroth_> ikonia: indeed
[01:35] <hyperb0lix> foomanchew: I wish, but Cedega can
[01:35] <jj1> kingace:i used to have ubuntu in that drive and i removed it , but ever thing was booting from a floppy including the old ubuntu i did not use
[01:35] <ikonia> logivision: depends if there is an ubuntu pacakge
[01:35] <maddash> bimberi: just curious, is there anyway for me to delete the module itself? would that prevent it from loading at all?
[01:35] <castoff> IndyTim you can but the find command will not like it
[01:35] <ikonia> maddash: don't delete the module
[01:35] <logivision> ikonia: If there isn't, am I S.O.L ?
[01:35] <kingace> jjl: does grub boot ubuntu?
[01:35] <ikonia> logivision: yes
[01:35] <foomanchew> hyperb0lix, what about wine ?
[01:35] <agent> DaveOst: you chose (by accident) to install oem version of ubuntu.... first rename your folder back to oem and then find the oem configuration program and configure it to your username, etc.
[01:35] <hyperb0lix> foomanchew: eh, not sure it could
[01:35] <logivision> ikonai: damn... wish they would just support _linux_ in general, and give you the option to build it./
[01:36] <bimberi> maddash: take ikonia's advice :)
[01:36] <jj1> kingace:grub dosent come up and i cant choose a OS
[01:36] <ikonia> why should they do that
[01:36] <hyperb0lix> foomanchew: if possible, you'd have to do a lot of configuring
[01:36] <IndyTim> I'm more concerned with bootup problems if I dup the uuid to another fstab entry?
[01:36] <sleepy009> how can i change the starting day of the week ?
[01:36] <dredhammer> ikonia i didnt get a message
[01:36] <kingace> jjl: ok, i actually know how to fix this
[01:36] <maddash> bimberi, ikonia: why?
[01:36] <svish> So, I have tried out 3ddesktop. kinda fun and useless :D any other fun and useless fancy impressive programs people here can recommend?
[01:36] <kingace> jjl: im gonna pm you cause i dont feel like trying to sort thrrough other covnersations
[01:36] <ikonia> the kernel won't know the object physically gone
[01:36] <DaveOst> okey, but how... i am not able to login
[01:36] <Astaroth_> ikonia: when i try "alsamixer" it responses: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[01:36] <ikonia> putting it simple
[01:36] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, try doing aplay /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav
[01:36] <LameBMX> does that play
[01:36] <nikin> agent: but how will he do that without the capability to log in? or did i misunderstood something?
[01:36] <DaveOst> agent: okey, but how... i am not able to login
[01:36] <mnoir> DaveOst: wo you have a lot of time used already?  maybe reinstall using desktop instead is a better way to fix
[01:36] <ikonia> Astaroth_: check /dev ofr the device
[01:37] <jj1> kingace:im on a live cd right now
[01:37] <mnoir> wo=do :)
[01:37] <ikonia> dredhammer: check the wiki for "restricted formats"
[01:37] <kingace> jjl: alright open up a terminal and type grub
[01:37] <dredhammer> ok
[01:37] <recon39> I have a file name mythtv in my temp folder what do i need to type in the termanal to install it
[01:37] <maddash> ikonia: so how do I tell it that it's "physically gone"?
[01:37] <agent> nikin: i did not read the loging problem
[01:37] <ikonia> you don't
[01:37] <ikonia> don't delete a module
[01:37] <Slart> svish: beryl would be one I guess... but that's some way to go.. just for the ooo and the aaahh s =)
[01:37] <Astaroth_> ikonia: should it be called "usb-audio" or something like that?
[01:37] <tyme-> ay shawty what it isssss
[01:37] <klees> any ATI card users?
[01:37] <ikonia> Astaroth_: is your audio card ausb device
[01:37] <tyme-> i use ATI cards
[01:37] <Astaroth_> yep
[01:37] <ikonia> pooh
[01:37] <sleepy009> kless yes
[01:38] <jj1> kingace:its doen
[01:38] <foomanchew> klees, yes
[01:38] <agent> DaveOst: if worse comes to worse, use your livecd to fix the problem: just load the livecd, mount the partition with your folder and rename it back to oem (or whatever it was)
[01:38] <maddash> ikonia: thanks for not answering me
[01:38] <tyme-> !ati
[01:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:38] <jj1> done*
[01:38] <bimberi> maddash: by recompiling the kernel with a config that says not to compile that module
[01:38] <rukuartic> recon39: Thats rather ambiguous... Are you looking to install mythtv?
[01:38] <ikonia> maddash: I did
[01:38] <DaveOst> mnoir:  i reinstalled unbutu twice today (because i tried to install an ati card driver, that doesent work(
[01:38] <Astaroth_> i told you that before :p
[01:38] <klees> any 9800 users??
[01:38] <ikonia> did you miss it
[01:38] <kingace> jjl: what are you seeing now
[01:38] <ikonia> Astaroth_: sorry - I missed that earlier
[01:38] <jj1> grub >
[01:38] <sleepy009> 9600 pro
[01:38] <mnoir> DaveOst: oic :(
[01:38] <ikonia> maddash: don't delete the module
[01:38] <ikonia> maddash: did you see that
[01:38] <ikonia> ?
[01:39] <recon39> yes i am looking to install mythtv just can't get in to install
[01:39] <jj1> kingace:Minimal bash-like line is supported ..............
[01:39] <klees> ATI users:  did ur GL screensavers lose acceleration after the latest patches??
[01:39] <maddash> ikonia: sarcasm
[01:39] <kingace> jj1: ok cool. type "root (hd0,1)" replacing hd?,? with the proper numbers for you
[01:39] <rukuartic> recon39: You should be able to install it through apt-get... One moment please.
[01:39] <ikonia> maddash: errr why ?
[01:39] <Astaroth_> ikonia: i was doing what the usb-audio manual at www.alsa-project.org says
[01:39] <klees> *latest Ubuntu patches
[01:39] <sleepy009> no
[01:39] <kingace> jj1: then press enter
[01:39] <castoff> DaveOst couldn't you just copy the old X config back to fix?
[01:39] <ikonia> Astaroth_: I hate usb audio devices, don't know much about it
[01:39] <recon39> ok
[01:39] <maddash> bimberi: I thought the kernel modules were swap-out/in-able. after all, if I have to recompile the kernel, then how do modprobe -r  and rmmod work?
[01:39] <ikonia> Astaroth_: they are a real pain
[01:39] <klees> are you using the 8.32.5 drivers??
[01:39] <Astaroth_> ikonia: its my first one, my internal device just doesnt work at all
[01:40] <rukuartic> recon39: Try typing "sudo apt-get install mythtv" in the terminal (if you can't get one open, Alt+F2 and type in "gnome-terminal")
[01:40] <ikonia> maddash: have you recompiled the kernel
[01:40] <ikonia> ?
[01:40] <sleepy009> klees, wait
[01:40] <DaveOst> agent: hm, so there is no "easy" solution for this... ... i think no other chance for me than to reinstall
[01:40] <jj1> kingace:i only have one drive as master im asuming its hdb1?
[01:40] <recon39> ok thanks
[01:40] <DaveOst> :)
[01:40] <rukuartic> recon39: No problem. Let me know how it goes!
[01:40] <cafuego_> jj1: hdb is NEVER a master
[01:40] <kingace> jj1: no actually its just hd0
[01:40] <ikonia> maddash: kernel modules can be loaded/unloaded but not swapped between kernels
[01:40] <jj1> hda?
[01:40] <sleepy009> kless, 8.28.8
[01:40] <ikonia> does that make better sense ?
[01:40] <sleepy009> from ubuntu servers
[01:40] <jj1> kingace:ok i see
[01:40] <kingace> jj1: you do hd and then a number referring to which drive it is
[01:41] <agent> DaveOst: that depends on what you think is "easy".... for me fixing your problem would be considered very easy and only take about 1-3 minutes :)
[01:41] <kingace> jj1: like the order
[01:41] <jakob> are there no java plugins for mozilla on ubuntu x64?
[01:41] <kingace> jj1: and then comma, ubuntu partition
[01:41] <cafuego_> jakob: Nope. Run ia32 if you need that.
[01:41] <jakob> cafuego_ how do I do that?
[01:41] <maddash> ikonia: that wasn't my question
[01:41] <cafuego_> jakob: reinstall using 32bit.
[01:41] <ikonia> sorry - what was your question
[01:41] <jj1> Error 22: No such partition
[01:41] <agent> !java | jakob
[01:41] <ubotu> jakob: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:41] <ikonia> I must have missunderstood what your asking
[01:41] <sleepy009> jakob, 32 bit
[01:42] <kingace> jj1: alright try setup (hd0,0)
[01:42] <agent> jakob: that pages has instructions on java amd64
[01:42] <maddash> ikonia: I'm asking why modprobe-r and rmmod worked while on the other hand I couldn't disable (as opposed to blacklist) the loading of certain modules.
[01:42] <ctothej> need some help getting ubuntu to recognize my creative live usb as a sound device. any help?
[01:42] <DaveOst> agent: yes, but i am a long-time windows user, and today seen linux for the first time, then english is not my motherlanguage, and i dont know how to work with linux... ...i think its better for us two, if i reinstall the whole system ^^
[01:42] <ikonia> maddash: you disable module loading by blacklisting
[01:43] <ikonia> you can't "disable" a module
[01:43] <Mamasan> I installed Ubuntu and now after booting my usb keyboard and mouse are dead.  any idea of where I can start?
[01:43] <kingace> i have a hard drive that no matter how many times i format i cannot partition
[01:43] <Astaroth_> DaveOst: just the word "motherlanguage" tells me you're german :p
[01:43] <kingace> it says error creating disk label in gparted
[01:43] <DaveOst> rofl, yes
[01:43] <jj1> kingace: root (hd0) worked
[01:43] <agent> DaveOst: maybe it is better.... i did not say it was not :) what is your mother language?
[01:43] <n2diy> DaveOst: what is your native language?
[01:43] <ikonia> maddash: is that a better response
[01:43] <DaveOst> german
[01:43] <Astaroth_> its mothertongue or native language ;)
[01:43] <ikonia> make more sense
[01:43] <kingace> jj1: what did it say
[01:43] <jj1> nothing
[01:43] <DaveOst> wooof
[01:44] <kingace> jj1: then i dont think it worked
[01:44] <cmt^^> away
[01:44] <DaveOst> i remember from school /./
[01:44] <n2diy> ! german | DaveOst
[01:44] <kingace> jj1: its worth a shot though
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about german - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <agent> DaveOst: you know there is a ubuntu german channel
[01:44] <agent> !german | DaveOst
[01:44] <jj1> kingace:grub> root (hd0)
[01:44] <jj1> grub>
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about german - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <agent> err
[01:44] <kingace> jj1: now type setup (hd0)
[01:44] <nikin> !gr
[01:44] <Astaroth_> DaveOst: try http://www.ubuntuusers.de
[01:44] <mnoir> !de
[01:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[01:44] <DaveOst> that would be helpful
[01:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:44] <jakob> agent, I have java installed, I just need a plugin for mozilla
[01:44] <n2diy> ! German | DaveOst
[01:44] <svish> Slart: what is beryl?
[01:44] <Astaroth_> or #ubuntu-de
[01:44] <agent> !de | DaveOst
[01:44] <kingace> jj1: no promises though
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about German - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <ubotu> DaveOst: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:45] <LameBMX> Astaroth_,  cat /usr/share/sounds/warning.wav > /dev/dsp
[01:45] <DaveOst> thanx
[01:45] <castoff> if you don't want a module to load add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:45] <agent> DaveOst: ^^ auf deutsch
[01:45] <agent> :)
[01:45] <Slart> svish: it's a fancy desktop window manager thingy.. with woobly windows, desktops zooming in and out etc etc.. the chicks love it ;)
[01:45] <ikonia> maddash: does that make it clearer ?
[01:45] <maddash> ikonia: blacklisting makes the kernel do double the work - it'd find the module and load it, then unload it after reading "blacklist"
[01:45] <cschees> Has anyone had any luck installing Open office 2.1 on Edgy?
[01:45] <Slart> !beryl | svish
[01:45] <ubotu> svish: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:45] <AWOSDev> I want to buy a wireless network card that works on Dapper
[01:45] <Styles> is anyone here good at regexp i'd like a regexp that changes for example "hi" to "hello" in all files in all subdirectories
[01:45] <ikonia> no it doesn't load then unload it
[01:45] <ikonia> and its not really "work"
[01:45] <ikonia> as at that point nothing is really running
[01:45] <AWOSDev> Will the MSI MP54G5 work?  I know the G4 is compatibile, are they close enough?
[01:46] <pianoboy3333> How do I change what LAN network I'm on?
[01:46] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: cool that works, but not with /dev/dsp ; its /dev/dsp1
[01:46] <svish> Slart: oo... thats a good thing ;) lol. is it installed with synaptic like 3ddesktop? or is it some weird hard difficult way?
[01:46] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: btw.. how can i stop that? :D
[01:46] <jj1> kingace:Remember im trying to get into winows not linux, i have linux on other drive not connect to the computer
[01:46] <n2diy> ! hardware
[01:46] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:46] <Astaroth_> ah, did already
[01:46] <hyperb0lix> AWOSDev: ndiswrapper?
[01:46] <ikonia> maddash: is blacklisting a problem for you ?
[01:46] <kingace> jj1: yeah but you can still use grub to boot
[01:46] <mnoir> pianoboy3333: what do you mean?
[01:46] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, ctrl-c or it should stop on its own ...
[01:46] <AWOSDev> hyperb0lix don't even say that WORD around me
[01:46] <jj1> kingace:ok
[01:46] <hyperb0lix> AWOSDev: :P
[01:46] <n2diy> ! hardware | AWOSDev
[01:46] <ubotu> AWOSDev: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:46] <AWOSDev> hyperb0lix don't even think it  it is EVIL.
[01:47] <jj1> kingace:setup (hd00 you sed ?
[01:47] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: so my problem is that there's no /dev/dsp, just a /dev/dsp1
[01:47] <kingace> jj1: it might be easier to load up your windows cd and use recovery mode and type fixboot
[01:47] <LameBMX> Astaroth_,  well that should say your driver is working .. but im pretty sure things send the info to /dev/dsp1
[01:47] <AWOSDev> n2diy -- yes I have the Wiki up right now.  the G2 and G4 are listed but not the G5
[01:47] <pianoboy3333> mnoir: ummm... like Places -> Network Servers, how do I join another, instead of the one I'm on
[01:47] <maddash> ikonia: yep. I'm a super slow computer and even the server install has proven to be too slow to boot.
[01:47] <hyperb0lix> AWOSDev: I haven't really worked with it - any warnings would be appreciated :P
[01:47] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, do you have onboard sound?
[01:47] <kingace> jj1: ok, you definitely need something in root (hd0,?)
[01:47] <kingace> sooo
[01:47] <ikonia> that should only be a few seconds at worst
[01:47] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: nope, external usb card
[01:47] <ikonia> even on a slow computer
[01:47] <jj1> kingace:i feard youd say that
[01:47] <AWOSDev> hyperb0lix well for my card it connected but didn't work and it took down the Ethernet requiring me to reboot my computer
[01:47] <n2diy> AWOSDev: then the G5 would be a gamble.
[01:47] <Slart> svish: haven't installed it myself.. but I hear lots of questions about it.. do a google.. look at the page ubotu gave you. There's tons of tutorials about it
[01:47] <kingace> just try 0, then 1, then 2
[01:47] <ikonia> and if the computer is THAT slow that just booting is a problem then to be honest, nothing you can do will change that
[01:47] <kingace> until one works
[01:47] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, hmmm thats a good ? does dsp exist?
[01:47] <kingace> or
[01:47] <ikonia> if you see what I mean
[01:48] <kingace> try typing root (hd0, and then hitting tab
[01:48] <AWOSDev> jj1: trying to install GRUB?
[01:48] <kingace> sometimes it gives you advice
[01:48] <ikonia> if loading a module takes that long - then you've got no chance of doing anything with it
[01:48] <kingace> yes he is
[01:48] <zan_d> i'm trying to install ubuntu from a unix/linux system
[01:48] <AWOSDev> jj1: or repair?
[01:48] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: yeah its not bad, terratec aureon 5.1 usb mkii.. but there's no /dev/dsp
[01:48] <zan_d> and it asks me to use ar -xf
[01:48] <zan_d> but ar was not found
[01:48] <zan_d> this is kubuntu breezy
[01:48] <AWOSDev> is it already installed and you just are upgrading/repairing it, jj1?
[01:48] <jj1> AWOSDev:i would say install
[01:48] <LameBMX> i dont see what it would just goto 1 ... and all i was curious was if you driver was working or however that goes ..
[01:48] <AWOSDev> jj1 if you have Linux installed and have a /boot folder
[01:48] <jj1> AWOSDev:it used to be on a floppy drive
[01:48] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, http://linuxgazette.net/109/john.html thats info about how sound works
[01:48] <AWOSDev> jj1 oh okay
[01:48] <Astaroth_> thx
[01:49] <AWOSDev> jj1 you can install it to the MBR by just using (hd0)
[01:49] <jj1> AWOSDev:there a twist in the story
[01:49] <AWOSDev> uhoh
[01:49] <jj1> AWOSDev:i feel i should tell you all of it
[01:49] <AWOSDev> Oh-kay.
[01:49] <maddash> ikonia: oh-kay.
[01:49] <ikonia> maddash: see what I'm saying
[01:49] <LameBMX> from what i rmember driver takes dev/dsp and put it to hardware .. and alsa just pipes the info into dev/dsp ...
[01:49] <ikonia> insmod is super light
[01:49] <ctothej> can someone help me with getting ubuntu to load my creative usb device as a sound card?
[01:49] <LameBMX> but thats well beyone my level for how to switch those around lol
[01:49] <ikonia> and if thats taking ages, that machine is pretty unusable (trying to make it clearer)
[01:49] <AWOSDev> jj1 go ahead and tell me
[01:50] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: so can i just rename dsp1 to dsp?
[01:50] <LameBMX> i dk
[01:50] <Astaroth_> i cant.
[01:50] <nikin> Astaroth: creating a symlink is a better way
[01:50] <ikonia> Astaroth_: check your udev rules
[01:50] <pianoboy3333> How do I change what LAN network I'm on?
[01:50] <ikonia> add a rule in udev
[01:50] <AWOSDev> Astaroth_ if you don't already have a /dev/dsp you can create a softlink
[01:50] <Slart> ctothej: I don't have a usb soundcard myself but have you tried googling for the soundcard model name and ubuntu to see if there are tutorials out there?
[01:50] <LameBMX> Astaroth_,  u can try .. but its a dev folder so all that should be auto created .. even if it works it prolly wont survive a reboot or logout
[01:50] <AWOSDev> Astaroth_ type      sudo ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp
[01:50] <Mamasan> Can someone help me?  After I boot to ubuntu, my mouse and keyboard go dead....anyone know where I can start to see what's going wrong?
[01:50] <LameBMX> and yea symlink sounds better .. less nasty
[01:50] <Astaroth_> ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp?
[01:51] <ikonia> AWOSDev: better to do a udev rule
[01:51] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, that makes a simlink
[01:51] <ikonia> so it doesn't need to be done every time
[01:51] <Astaroth_> so whats a soft link?
[01:51] <AWOSDev> ikonia ah okay
[01:51] <AWOSDev> ikonia he could just put it in the startup script
[01:51] <LameBMX> it links two things ..
[01:51] <mnoir> pianoboy3333: places -> network servers are places you can connect to by clicking them - not really the place to define your own identity or membership in them - what are you interested in actually doing?
[01:51] <Slart> Mamasan: dmesg | grep keyboard perhaps?.. that is.. if you can type
[01:51] <ikonia> dsp is his onboard sound card, thats why his usb one is dsp1
[01:51] <AWOSDev> ahhhhh
[01:51] <crimsun> Astaroth_: lsmod |grep ^snd_pcm_oss
[01:51] <nikin> ikonia: why is an udev rule better? just asking...
[01:51] <pianoboy3333> mnoir: How do I change what Windows Server I'm on then, that's what it is
[01:51] <n2diy> Mamasan: did you try unplugging them, and then plugging them back in?
[01:51] <kingace> gparted giving me "Error while setting new disklabel" --> why??
[01:51] <Mamasan> Slart: Can't type.  Keyboard is dead after I boot
[01:51] <ctothej> Slart, yes, ive been searching the web and found only solutions where the usb device is already recognized. one option I have not exhausted is to rebuild alsa with the usb driver module into the kernel.
[01:51] <Mamasan> N2diy: Tried that, no luck
[01:52] <LameBMX> you can make a simlink point to a folder .. and its contents will appear there ... to summerize it its the FM principal .. or fuzzy logic
[01:52] <Astaroth_> crimsun: tobi@ubuntu:/dev$ lsmod | grep ^snd_pcm_oss
[01:52] <Astaroth_> snd_pcm_oss            47232  0
[01:52] <mnoir> pianoboy3333: that should be your samba definitions
[01:52] <Slart> Mamasan: can you type in BIOS settings?
[01:52] <mnoir> !samba | pianoboy3333
[01:52] <ubotu> pianoboy3333: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:52] <ikonia> because udev is what controls the devices, and assigns the correct permissions and will change dynamiclly. On reboot the /dev file system is destroyed so he'll have to re-create the link, if he creates a udev rule, udev will create the device on bootup
[01:52] <pianoboy3333> mnoir: where can I edit those/is there a gui?
[01:52] <fingerz> Hello All
[01:52] <jj1> AWOSDev:i had ubuntu install in this hard drive (master) with winodws ,ubuntu was installed last and i set it to boot from (fd0) and every thing worked great i could even get to winodows.When i was in winodws i decided to remove ubuntu so i deleted the partion (it was not an NTFS one) When i tryed to log on to windows the fd0 grub would not louad and i didnt get the choise to choose OS like it would normally do.
[01:52] <crimsun> Astaroth_: asoundconf list
[01:52] <Mamasan> Slart: Yes, Both the mouse and keyboard have power until ubuntu starts to boot
[01:52] <Slart> ctothej: ok, then I won't be of much help, ubuntu has always found all my usb-thingies... sorry
[01:52] <Astaroth_> Names of available sound cards:
[01:52] <Astaroth_> Audio
[01:52] <mnoir> !samba | pianoboy3333
[01:52] <ubotu> pianoboy3333: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:52] <Astaroth_> so wtf
[01:52] <Nvening> hi
[01:53] <LameBMX> Astaroth_, read ikonia stuff there about udev rule .. sounds like a better hack
[01:53] <nikin> ikonia: ty for the info :D now i understand
[01:53] <Nvening> erm not good
[01:53] <fingerz> I cannot get my ATI All In Wonder 9600 running....can someone help????
[01:53] <Slart> Mamasan: other usb-things work?
[01:53] <pianoboy3333> mnoir: you can say taht as much as you want, but that's not answering my question...
[01:53] <Astaroth_> LameBMX: i dunno much about udev
[01:53] <pianoboy3333> *that
[01:53] <ctothej> Slart, know how I can blacklist a module from loading?
[01:53] <Mamasan> Slart: I have no other usb devices plugged in
[01:53] <crimsun> Astaroth_: now is Audio your usb or your onboard?
[01:53] <sleepy009> jj1, how many partitions do you have
[01:53] <Nvening> i just got this: fsck died with exit status 8
[01:53] <AWOSDev> jj1 so you deleted Ubuntu -- why not just put the Windows boot loader back on?
[01:53] <ikonia> Nvening: file system messed up
[01:53] <crimsun> Astaroth_: (easiest way to tell: cat /proc/asound/modules )
[01:53] <Nvening> indeed
[01:54] <LameBMX> jj1, put in your windows cd ..l select advanced recovery .. type in fixmbr at the command line .. reboot
[01:54] <jj1> many, and they are not named, im on a ubuntu live cd right now
[01:54] <Nvening> is it fixable?
[01:54] <castoff> Slart: if you don't want a module to load add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:54] <Slart> ctothej: add the module name in the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist I think there has to be a blacklist before the name too "blacklist mymodulename"
[01:54] <ikonia> use fsck - see
[01:54] <tyme-> !xgl
[01:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:54] <tyme-> !beryl
[01:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:54] <maddash> !modules
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modules - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <Astaroth_> crimsun:  1 snd_usb_audio
[01:54] <Nvening> windows ran a fdisk when i started it up
[01:54] <zan_d> anyone familiar with video settings?
[01:54] <sleepy009> put in your windows cd ..l select advanced recovery .. type in fixmbr at the command line .. reboot
[01:54] <ikonia> windows never runs fdisk on startup
[01:54] <ikonia> or do you mean chkdisk
[01:54] <zan_d> i installed an install of ubuntu on a desktop machine, then moved the HD over to my laptop
[01:54] <Nvening> ye sos
[01:54] <ikonia> maddash: still not clear on the modules ?
[01:54] <crimsun> Astaroth_: at any time this boot, have you unplugged the usb device without first unloading snd-usb-audio?
[01:54] <zan_d> but the video settings are messed up, so even the CLI scrolls too far
[01:54] <ikonia> Nvening: chkdisk shouldn't effect linux partition
[01:55] <ikonia> it can only run on windows partitions
[01:55] <Slart> Mamasan: hmm.. I'd look for usb trouble first..but I'm not sure how to troubleshoot without a keyboard..
[01:55] <jj1> LameBMX:yeh i think its best i do that , thou i read it can mass up the partions
[01:55] <ikonia> so thats not a reason
[01:55] <Nvening> yep, but shows something is messed up mabe?
[01:55] <LameBMX> well it will for the nix ones
[01:55] <Astaroth_> crimsun: as far as i know i haven't ever unplugged this thing
[01:55] <ikonia> Nvening: not really
[01:55] <Mamasan> Slart: ok, thanks
[01:55] <maddash> ikonia: what does /proc/modules do?
[01:55] <ikonia> chkdisk normally runs when you've not powred down he machien cleanly
[01:55] <Nvening> i see
[01:55] <crimsun> Astaroth_: ok, well, nothing's wrong; it's all functioning appropriately.
[01:55] <ikonia> maddash: logs which modules are loaded
[01:55] <LameBMX> but i dont know ...i just know the tool exists
[01:55] <Rio> what directory does applications typically get installed in? i just installed a program expecting the shortcut to the executable to appear in the applications drop down menu.....
[01:56] <Nvening> ye, i was ina  rush, and stressed, long story, wont happen again
[01:56] <sleepy009> jj1, you can install windows on parttiton on who you dont have windows
[01:56] <sleepy009> and it will fix
[01:56] <ikonia> maddash: and the memory address they are used
[01:56] <crimsun> Astaroth_: you have an index 1, so the corresponding oss emulation device is /dev/dsp1
[01:56] <n2diy> zan_d: if you can run xorg.conf, you have a chance at getting things working.
[01:56] <Nvening> so what do i do to repoair ubuntu?
[01:56] <AWOSDev> ikonia actually if the MBR's end sector count is messed up it COULD overwrite Ubuntu -- but the odds of that are 1000000 to 1
[01:56] <Astaroth_> crimsun: i just plugged in my sound system, with aplay bla > /dev/dsp i just get noise, not the sound i want
[01:56] <ikonia> AWOSDev: smarty !
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> Rio: They're split up.  Trying running the name of the program as a command in the terminal.
[01:56] <ikonia> Nvening: use fsck
[01:56] <crimsun> Astaroth_: if you -only- want to use that device, you need to remove a line from /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[01:56] <AWOSDev> ikonia, I've written hard disk drivers.  My brain is programmed to think that way :D
[01:56] <maddash> ikonia: ok, so /etc/modules does the exact opposite with /etc/modprobe.r/blacklist, right?
[01:56] <sleepy009> jj1, i use that always
[01:56] <AWOSDev> maddash yes
[01:56] <nn531> anyone good with aireplay?
[01:57] <Nvening> wiki link please ;)
[01:57] <ikonia> maddash: pretty much
[01:57] <Nvening> lol
[01:57] <Astaroth_> crimsun: with only you mean disabling the onboard sound?
[01:57] <ikonia> Nvening: just man fsck
[01:57] <fingerz> I hate ATI!
[01:57] <Nvening> ill find it myself
[01:57] <ikonia> its just one command needed
[01:57] <Nvening> what>
[01:57] <AWOSDev> bye all!
[01:57] <jj1>  sleepy009:sorry i missed that ?
[01:57] <ikonia> Nvening: fsck
[01:57] <maddash> ikonia: /etc/modules doesn't list the other modules that are in lsmod. is there another list that covers the rest of those modules?
[01:57] <Nvening> but how do i run it, ubuntu wont start
[01:57] <Rio> tonyyarusso ahh.. thanks... i guess it didnt appear there because there was something wrong with teh installation
[01:58] <jj1> so do i typr fixmbr ?
[01:58] <Nvening> u mean do it in recovery mode?
[01:58] <zan_d> where is xorg.conf?
[01:58] <crimsun> Astaroth_: I presume you didn't disable it, since your usb device is not index 0
[01:58] <svish> hmmmmm... Beryl looked reeeaaally interesting.. but a bit scary innstalling.. lol
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> zan_d: /etc/X11/
[01:58] <ikonia> maddash: simpley summery - the kernel boots, udev gets event triggers for devices, the kernel loads modules for drivers it knows about. the modules.conf is used to pass options/mappings for certain modules
[01:58] <Slart> zan_d: in /etc/X11/  .. capital X
[01:58] <jj1> zan_d:/etc/x11/.org/
[01:58] <ikonia> so modules.conf doesn't do all modules, just forces certain configurations of certain modules
[01:58] <ikonia> udev deals with the modules
[01:58] <sleepy009> jj1, if you are afraid of fixmrb the is a safer way
[01:58] <ikonia> see what I mean
[01:59] <zan_d> there's no .org directory in there
[01:59] <crimsun> Astaroth_: on the other hand, if you want your usb audio device's oss emulation device to be /dev/dsp, you need to remove one line from /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, as I mentioned above, then unload and reload the alsa drivers
[01:59] <Slart> svish: but it's really cool when it works.. don't know if you can ever do anything serious with the computer with that running.. but it's cool
[01:59] <jj1> sleepy009:whts that ?
[01:59] <mnoir> zan_d: /etc/X11
[01:59] <Astaroth_> crimsun: i'll try to do the stuff at the usb-audio manual from alsa now again
[01:59] <Nvening> do i do it in recovery mode the ikona?
[01:59] <ikonia> Nvening: good call
[01:59] <Nvening> *ikonia
[01:59] <crimsun> Astaroth_: it's much easier
[01:59] <zan_d> mnoir, i'm there, but no xorg.conf
[01:59] <svish> Slart: is it easy to deactivate/activate?
[01:59] <Nvening> ok, ill try
[01:59] <nikin> Slart: dont think so much the Vista way.... okok i know Vista isnt even cool
[01:59] <Nvening> thanks!!!
[01:59] <jj1> sleepy009:i was about to install ubunt agian just so it can fix my grub problem
[01:59] <ikonia> ok
[01:59] <crimsun> Astaroth_: I'll walk you through it, but first you need to tell me if you only want to use the usb audio device.
[01:59] <svish> Slart: I mean, when its already installed
[01:59] <mnoir> zan_d: stolen??
[01:59] <sleepy009> jj1, install windows on some partition
[01:59] <Plecebo> how can i figure out why my dvd drive is not mounting when i put in a disc? I can play some movies through mplayer, and some wont work, i've had no luck with totem
[01:59] <Slart> svish: I have no idea.. check the forums..
[01:59] <zan_d> stolen?
[01:59] <ikonia> maddash: was that a clear explaination ?
[01:59] <Astaroth_> crimsun: yes.
[01:59] <zan_d> hah
[01:59] <zan_d> breezy
[02:00] <Slart> nikin: huh?
[02:00] <mnoir> zan_d: what install - desktop?
[02:00] <jj1> sleepy009:winodws takes too long to install sleepy009:
[02:00] <crimsun> Astaroth_: open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base in an editor with root privileges
[02:00] <maddash> ikonia: yes
[02:00] <ikonia> super
[02:00] <zan_d> kubuntu
[02:00] <nimak> My friend can't get X to work on his iMac G5
[02:00] <ikonia> its a complex topic
[02:00] <zan_d> kde
[02:00] <Astaroth_> check
[02:00] <svish> Slart: have you installed it on ubuntu before? cant find any install instructions or files or anything..
[02:00] <ikonia> just wanted to be sure I'd got it across
[02:00] <mnoir> zan_d: w8 - in breezy is xfree
[02:00] <crimsun> Astaroth_: then remove the "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" line, save it, and close the file
[02:00] <ctothej> Can someone with a working snd-usb-audio device pastebin their /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base ?
[02:00] <nikin> Slart: just about having a system that looks cool, but isnt realy usefull
[02:00] <Slart> svish: never even tried.. but google for tutorials.. they are out there
[02:00] <sleepy009> jj1,  you want to get back the windows boot manager ?
[02:00] <mnoir> uuh - xfree86 i mean
[02:00] <Astaroth_> crimsun: yep
[02:01] <jj1> sleepy009:i just whant to be able to boot into windows
[02:01] <n2diy> mnoir: zan_d installed on a desktop, and moved the HD into a laptop.
[02:01] <zan_d> i just used grub to get into recovery mode
[02:01] <zan_d> and it works
[02:01] <crimsun> ctothej: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/406/
[02:01] <Slart> nikin: ah =)... well... perhaps beryl will be useful and cool once it's finished..
[02:01] <Astaroth_> crimsun: so i restarted alsa, now it works, lol
[02:01] <zan_d> but that seems dirty
[02:01] <mnoir> n2diy: that usually doesnt change the location of files :)
[02:01] <mangojambo_> how can I register my nick ?
[02:02] <crimsun> Astaroth_: yep.
[02:02] <Astaroth_> mangojambo_: /ns register email pw
[02:02] <Music_Shuffle> mangojambo_, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[02:02] <sleepy009> jj1, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[02:02] <ikonia> maddash: anything else you want to know ?
[02:02] <Music_Shuffle> Hah. Or that.
[02:02] <ikonia> on the topic
[02:02] <n2diy> mnoir: no it shouldn't, is xorg.conf mia?
[02:02] <ctothej> crimsun, thx
[02:02] <Astaroth_> mangojambo_: forget the email thing
[02:02] <nikin> Slart: lets hope so.... but i will never use eyecandy stuff :D i just dont like it...
[02:02] <tsoler> connect to a vpn?
[02:02] <Astaroth_> crimsun: so now i have a further question
[02:03] <mnoir> n2diy: i think he said he is running breezy?  i think that used xfree86, not xorg...
[02:03] <tsoler> anyone here knows how to connect to a vpn?
[02:03] <n2diy> mnoir: ok.
[02:03] <nikin> mangojamb: '/msg nickserv register PASSWORD'  if i remebre good
[02:03] <maddash> ikonia: with regards to modules - ubuntu takes the most time when "Calculating module dependencies" - any way to fix this?
[02:03] <ikonia> tsoler: use a vpn client
[02:03] <Peebo> Where are the region settings for Ubuntu, how do I get rid of the stupid Yank date format
[02:03] <Astaroth_> crimsun: i'm now using esd for sound output because i dont have hardware mixing
[02:03] <mnoir> zan_d: pastebin ls -l of /etc/X11
[02:03] <ctothej> Astaroth_, how did you restart alsa?
[02:03] <tsoler> ikonia:  like ?
[02:03] <ikonia> maddash: no - thats udev (I think udev) working out what modules are needed
[02:03] <ikonia> tsoler: no idea
[02:04] <Astaroth_> ctothej: sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[02:04] <sleepy009> Peebo, i alo want to know
[02:04] <maddash> ikonia: I'm loading all the same modules everytime, so is there some way to cache this?
[02:04] <ikonia> no
[02:04] <Slart> nikin: as long as it doesn't affect usability or drains power to much it's ok... otherwise we'd all be uninstalling gnome/KDE etc to just run a console.. =)
[02:04] <ikonia> the point of udev is is dynamic
[02:04] <Astaroth_> crimsun: when i use esd with amarok the sound is just a bit delayed and sometimes stops for a sec
[02:04] <n2diy> Peebo: right click on your clock and select prefrences?
[02:04] <ikonia> if you add /remove a device udev will react
[02:04] <crimsun> Astaroth_: don't use esd, use alsa directly.
[02:04] <ctothej> crimsun, Astaroth_, I get " /etc/init.d/alsasound: command not found" <-- is this a problem?
[02:05] <crimsun> Astaroth_: you'll need to create an asoundrc if you wish to dmix usb audio
[02:05] <Peebo> n2diy that does not change it
[02:05] <ikonia> I know what your saying - servers having dyamic /dev has been a hot topic scince udev was introduced
[02:05] <crimsun> ctothej: no, we don't ship that initscript
[02:05] <nikin> Slart: uninstalling X is not an option, but using Xfce or TWM or WM is one :D
[02:05] <ikonia> maddash: sorry - that was for you
[02:05] <Astaroth_> ctothej: just type "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa[press tab twice here] "
[02:05] <tarmath> hello, i want to install imagemagick on my ubuntu server for the coppermine photo gallery but it requires x11, is there a way to install imagemagick without x11?
[02:05] <Astaroth_> there should be something else afaik
[02:06] <ikonia> tarmath: no
[02:06] <Astaroth_> crimsun: so what do i have to type in there?
[02:06] <ubuntu1980> who knows what happened with gnome-file-types-properties in ubuntu?
[02:06] <maddash> ikonia: thanks.
[02:06] <vinboy_> should I use skype or skype-static?
[02:06] <crimsun> Astaroth_: type what where?
[02:06] <tyme-> anyone know why after installing ATI drivers it's still using Mesa ? Ubuntu Edgy
[02:06] <ikonia> maddash: am I on the right lines to what your asking
[02:06] <Astaroth_> crimsun: in that asoundrc
[02:06] <Slart> nikin: hehe.. indeed
[02:06] <svish> !AIGLX
[02:06] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
 <Music_Shuffle> , thank you ... by the way, if a register in freenode the works into Ubuntu server ?
[02:07] <Slart> tyme-: do you use the new drivers? have you edited xorg.conf?
[02:07] <Nvenin1> ikonia, it says its a mounted partition and it could cause serious damage?
[02:07] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah.
[02:07] <ctothej> Astaroth_, got it thanks
[02:07] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[02:07] <sleepy009> tyme-, did you try to change xorg.conf from ati fo fglrx
[02:07] <sleepy009> ?
[02:07] <tonyyarusso> tyme-: You could run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and tell it to use the new one.
[02:07] <ikonia> Nvenin1: yeah, never run it on mounted partitions
[02:07] <tyme-> sleepy: yes, i followed the !ati guide exactly
[02:07] <jrattner> .server irc.a0hell.org
[02:07] <ikonia> if its mounted though its fixed
[02:07] <tarmath> ikonia: ok thank you
[02:07] <Slart> tyme-: restarted the xserver?
[02:07] <Nvenin1> er? so what do i do
[02:07] <tyme-> Slart:  yea used aticonfig --initial to edit xorg.conf
[02:07] <Nvenin1> u mean it should be working now?
[02:07] <ikonia> if its mounted
[02:08] <tyme-> Slart:  yes. off course =)
[02:08] <jj1> how can i make it so that when i run "fdisk -l" so that i can see my hard drive ?
[02:08] <Nvenin1> ill try lol
[02:08] <jj1> im on live cd
[02:08] <nikin> my wine build is compleete :D hurray
[02:08] <tyme-> it was simple for Suse but i guess Debian has trouble
[02:08] <svish> !ati |svish
[02:08] <ubotu> svish: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:08] <sleepy009> time, resarted the x ?
[02:08] <Slart> tyme-: =) just checking... anything in the logs?
[02:08] <tyme-> of course sleepy009
[02:08] <tyme-> where would the logs be?
[02:08] <tyme-> /var/log
[02:08] <tyme-> sec
[02:08] <Slart> tyme-: there are system logs, kernel logs and X11 logs
[02:08] <ceacro> hello room
[02:08] <sleepy009> view the etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:09] <tyme-> sleepy009:  xorg.conf has fglrx enabled
[02:09] <Slart> tyme-: I'd start with the X11 logs.. might be called xorg something.. in /var/logs/
[02:09] <Peebo> Can anyone help the backward Yank date format is incredibly annoying.
[02:09] <ceacro> Is there anyone who has installed flashplayer into a 64 bit operating system ubuntu???
[02:10] <tyme-> sec reading the logs
[02:10] <ikonia> ceacro: its a real pain
[02:10] <Slart> ceacro: I think you can install 32-bit firefox and then install 32 bit flash on that
[02:10] <n2diy> Peebo: take a look at "man date"
[02:10] <Peebo> ceacro: I have but it don't work right
[02:10] <ikonia> Slart: its not that simple
[02:10] <aN1> ceacro
[02:10] <Slart> ikonia: who said it was simple =)
[02:10] <aN1> yeah there are several ways
[02:10] <ikonia> true
[02:10] <ikonia> you made it sound easy
[02:10] <ceacro> Can anyone help me to install it
[02:10] <ceacro> ?
[02:10] <svish> Is it as scary as it seems to install ati drivers?
[02:11] <ceacro> I read that there is a way using wine
[02:11] <bruenig> ceacro, look it up on the forum, there is a script that does it all for you, very easy
[02:11] <aN1> ceacro, u need the 32bit lib
[02:11] <ikonia> ceacro: check the wiki
[02:11] <jj1> what th emaster hard drive name ? hda?
[02:11] <ikonia> there is a good guide
[02:11] <aN1> ceacro u don't need to do dat
[02:11] <ikonia> bruenig: didn't know it was scripted
[02:11] <aN1> ceacro one sec
[02:11] <bruenig> nspluginwrapper
[02:11] <bruenig> that will do it too
[02:11] <sleepy009> tyme-, 	Driver      "fglrx"   , if you you ahve this it should work
[02:11] <bruenig> or so I am told
[02:11] <Slart> ikona, ceacro: ok. sorry.. I'll try again.... You don't want to do it, it'll kill your inner child and probably let your dog out.. but I've heard of a mysterious way to install firefox and flash as 32 bit instead of 64 bit.. but it's horrible horrible horrible... =)
[02:11] <ceacro> I like the way you help me
[02:12] <ikonia> ceacro: cool
[02:12] <aN1> ceacro, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[02:12] <phasegen> how do I recover the mbr I'm going to lose in about 30 minutes???
[02:12] <svish> Should I install atidrivers from ati.com or from ubuntu repositories?
[02:12] <bruenig> phasegen, why are you going to lose it
[02:12] <ikonia> phasegen: dd it off
[02:12] <sleepy009> svish, ubuntu
[02:12] <tyme-> sleepy009:  Slart, and anyone else - my Xorg log - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/408/
[02:12] <jj1> sleepy009:would it help if i can get to my boot.ini file ?
[02:12] <svish> sleepy009: is it easy to reverse if I screw up? lol
[02:12] <mnoir> !mbr | phasegen
[02:12] <ubotu> phasegen: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:12] <aN1> ceacro, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537 follow dis u install 32bit firefox then flash then java
[02:12] <phasegen> my windows partition is messed up and I have to reinstall it
[02:13] <sleepy009> jj1, no
[02:13] <ceacro> So is better to install ubuntu 32 bits in a 64 bits processor??
[02:13] <tyme-> sleepy009:  Slart, and anyone else - my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/409/
[02:13] <jj1> sleepy009:im confussed
[02:13] <ikonia> ceacro: its easier
[02:13] <ceacro> noooooooooooo
[02:13] <ikonia> why noooooooooooo
[02:13] <ceacro> I screw up
[02:13] <aN1> ceacro, do u have 64bit already installed?
[02:13] <ceacro> yeah
[02:13] <aN1> ceacro yeah don't uninstall
[02:13] <jj1> sleepy009:i know my winodows is on the partition 1
[02:13] <aN1> just follow the link i gave u
[02:14] <ceacro> I think it runs faster in a 64 bits
[02:14] <jj1> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows
[02:14] <aN1> ceacro, i have 64bit installed and im running flash flawless ley
[02:14] <aN1> cearcro very true
[02:14] <ceacro> what is that?
[02:14] <Nvening> ikonia, it still wont work
[02:14] <vinboy_> how to make my console colorful?
[02:14] <Slart> tyme-: hmm.. I seem to remember sometihng about commenting the line about DRI... but that was a nvidia card
[02:15] <aN1> ceacro http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537
[02:15] <Nvening> it gets a third through the bar, then freezes
[02:15] <ikonia> Nvening: boot from the live cd
[02:15] <ikonia> bed time
[02:15] <tyme-> meh. :\
[02:15] <jj1> sleepy009:im going to boot in to winodws cd and type fixmbr
[02:15] <Nvening> then after a second the logo changes, still the logo but different colours
[02:15] <aN1> ikonia nite
[02:15] <Nvening> ye me too ikonia
[02:15] <tyme-> !dualboot
[02:15] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:15] <Nvening> ill sort it tomos
[02:15] <sleepy009> jj1, ok try
[02:15] <Asc> If you set up multiple monitors, how do they behave?    Are there other options?
[02:15] <aN1> u guys in europe?
[02:16] <tyme-> !dualboot | jjl
[02:16] <ubotu> jjl: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)