[03:30] <boss_mc> without stopping my current one
[03:30] <ozzmosis> RHorse: Nautilus
[03:31] <richfrog1> Fryguy how do i do that?
[03:31] <lstarnes> RHorse: there is sshfs
[03:31] <RHorse> reaally? cool
[03:31] <fryguy> RHorse: fuse provides an interface to it via gvfs, so pretty much any file manager can do it
[03:31] <anternat> i would like to get to know for what purpğses the servers are being used....
[03:31] <anternat> *purposes
[03:31] <fryguy> richfrog1: find the driver you have, and then do a search for information on setting it up
[03:31] <fryguy> RHorse: also sshfs will let you mount it as a virtual filesystem
[03:31] <jrdave> hi guys, whats the best VRML 2.0 viewer under ubuntu 9.04?
[03:31] <fryguy> !best | jrdave
[03:32] <richfrog1> how do i find out what driver i got?
[03:32] <RHorse> fryguy thanks
[03:32] <fryguy> richfrog1: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:32] <tuxwulf>  I try to do a umount /dev/sda4 but it says device is busy. I would nto know what with though. How can I check?
[03:32] <richfrog1> through a terminal?
[03:32] <andrewfree> what_if: let me get a telnet server setup on my laptop so I can just send the pastebin stuff eaiser copying it is not very fast
[03:32] <RHorse> tuxwulf fuser
[03:32] <ozzmosis> tuxwulf: possibly with lsof
[03:32] <jrdave> ubottu: ok.. can u give me A vrml viewer I could use?
[03:33] <what_if> andrewfree: lol, ok.
[03:33] <richfrog1> fryguy what do i do with this-/var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:33] <Demonicdata> my father wants me to install ubuntu now that he has seen it on my computer,you think it is a good idea to install it for him?
[03:33] <nickrud> boshhead, you should be able to do startx -- :1 ; you should do it as a different user
[03:33] <Wasser> fryguy: well, i guess i will reinstall ubuntu, thanks anyway
[03:33] <mase_work> De
[03:33] <geirha> tuxwulf: sudo fuser -c /dev/sda4
[03:33] <mase_work> Demonicdata: oops, it depends
[03:34] <kalsriv> hi folks
[03:34] <mase_work> what does he need
[03:34] <boss_mc> nickrud: that starts gdm too, i just want a plain X window
[03:34] <nickrud> Demonicdata, yes, as long as you both understand you'll be doing all the sysadmin for a while
[03:34] <Kruger> what does a " -w " flag do?
[03:34] <Roasted> QUESTION - When I installed 9.04, I installed it with only my main drive attached. AFterwards I added my 3 backup drives to /etc/fstab with their UUID so they mount automatically to certain shares. Well, they somehow changed device ID tags. Now /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc1 are switched. It ultimately isn't a big deal due to me using UUIDs, but I still want to know WHY they switched and how Ic an switch them back. Any ideas?
[03:34] <tuxwulf> geirha: Thanks! Checking....
[03:34] <Kruger> err switch
[03:34] <nickrud> boss_mc, startx -- :1 ? no, gdm shouldn't start. it would use .xinitrc if it exists.
[03:34] <geirha> Kruger: Depends on what command it's used on
[03:34] <boss_mc> !pm | damien_
[03:34] <kalsriv> i got question with video input again
[03:35] <ozzmosis> Demonicdata: install is as dualboot
[03:35] <mase_work> Demonicdata: what reason did he give for wanting to switch ? Ubuntu is great , and i run it for my family and they really love it. But they knew the trade offs before hand.
[03:35] <nickrud> boss_mc, I just did it here to check my memory; the bit about different user was a firefox profile isue I ran into immediately
[03:35] <jhonnyboy> fryguy: Ok just finished installing openssh-server. How can i test it out? Do i have to set up a username/password to log in?
[03:35] <Kruger> if its used like sudo ../../b43-fwcutter-011/b43-fwcutter -w
[03:35] <richfrog1> ok nevermind
[03:35] <damien_> boss_mc, oh im sorry. But ofc if i got this working ill make an howto :)
[03:35] <Demonicdata> he thought the animations were nice,also I told him you didn't need to do anti-virus on it
[03:35] <ozzmosis> jhonnyboy: no, it uses your existing user/pass.
[03:35] <anternat> ozzmosis, may i paste an url here?
[03:36] <kalsriv> can anyone tell
[03:36] <nick_schembri> Roasted: answer
[03:36] <jhonnyboy> ozzmosis: so this is sort of the same thing as ftp?
[03:36] <kalsriv> how to get a video input
[03:36] <Demonicdata> I only went back to linux after ten years about 3 days ago
[03:36] <geirha> Kruger: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/en/man1/b43-fwcutter.1.html
[03:36] <ozzmosis> jhonnyboy: basically yes, but more secure
[03:36] <kalsriv> from camera or other device
[03:36] <Demonicdata> but it seems pretty simple,its got automatic installs now,no command line stuff
[03:36] <RHorse> jhonnyboy first make sure it's turned on
[03:36] <Demonicdata> well for the most part
[03:36] <nick_schembri> Roasted: as hardware is inited the order changes.
[03:36] <tuxwulf> geirha:  ... seems to do something, but what does "/dev/sda4: 16895c" mean?
[03:36] <boss_mc> nickrud: I can never remember which bit gdm is... but my desktop was loaded, along with startup programs etc, I want a grey screen with an X cursor in the middle, nothing else...!
[03:36] <jhonnyboy> RHorse: how can i do that?
[03:36] <nickrud> Demonicdata, then ubuntu is both the best and worst for you: it simply works, but it's got a lot of extra stuff between you and the hardware
[03:36] <fryguy> jhonnyboy: it uses the same usernames/passwords as everything else on your system
[03:36] <boss_mc> damien_: how far have  you got?
[03:37] <ozzmosis> RHorse: apt-get turns on ssh server after you install it
[03:37] <RHorse> tuxwulf ps -A|less give you list of pids.
[03:37] <geirha> tuxwulf: the process with pid 16895 is using it. "ps -ef | grep 16895"
[03:37] <tuxwulf> Oh it's a PID...
[03:37] <anternat> ozzmosis, may i paste an url here?
[03:37] <damien_> boss_mc, well. Not that far.. :/
[03:37] <ozzmosis> anternat: why are you asking me?
[03:37] <boss_mc> anternat: yes
[03:37] <damien_> boss_mc, i dont get it, why do i have to install the mesa drivers?
[03:37] <anternat> http://www.ircstat.com/ozzmosis/ozzmosis.htm
[03:37] <RHorse> jhonnyboy then kill it with sudo kill -9 [pid]
[03:37] <nick_schembri> Roasted: without uuid the drive order can change between kernels and mods
[03:37] <anternat> well thanx :)
[03:37] <Barridus> anybody that's good with cron have a moment to help me troubleshoot my overnight script that seems to run but nothing is backed up?
[03:37] <tuxwulf> ps  - ef | grep 16895
[03:38] <nickrud> boss_mc, ah, then edit .xinitrc for the startup you want. X is defaulting to gnome-session; you could just run   xterm in that file. Or add your preferred wm
[03:38] <boss_mc> damien_: they are the drivers you're planning on using...
[03:38] <icedwater> Hello, what should I add to /etc/fstab to make my SD card automount as rw to all?
[03:38] <kwtm> I tried to install Jaunty from CD onto blank Seagate 1.5TB drive, but got "grub-install failed. This is a fatal error."  If I install grub manually, can someone paste the /boot/grub/menu.lst, please?
[03:38] <geirha> tuxwulf: fuser can also kill any process using it if you add the -k flag
[03:38] <kalsriv> hello anyone?
[03:38] <jhonnyboy> I can't connect to my server, i can see the website online, but when i do a ping test it says request timed out
[03:38] <what_if> I've got to leave the house and am helping someone (andrewfree) with a problem. Can I pass all my info so far to someone so he doesn't get dropped ?
[03:38] <jhonnyboy> Maybe this is what's giving me problems?
[03:38] <RHorse> geirha that's nice!
[03:38] <what_if> It is his mysqld not starting, unable to bind to port
[03:39] <tuxwulf> geirha: / RHorse > Check! Thanks guys!
[03:39] <ozzmosis> jhonnyboy: not all sites respond to ping
[03:39] <nick_schembri> Roasted: example, when I first install a system the pata hardware loaded first then sata second.  /dev/sda is on the pata.
[03:39] <Demonicdata> so what would you say is the 'tradeoffs' for going with ubuntu other then with gaming(my dad isn't a gamer,other then Solitaire)
[03:39] <damien_> boss_mc, yeah but look at this line from the guide:
[03:39] <damien_> Section "Device"
[03:39] <Kruger> can some one help me find where my firmware folder is for my wireless card
[03:39] <damien_>         Identifier      "Radeon 9600"
[03:39] <damien_>         Driver          "ati"
[03:39] <FloodBot1> damien_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:40] <boss_mc> shh FloodBot1
[03:40] <andrewfree> what_if:  When are you going to be back?
[03:40] <andrewfree> I might have to bbl myself
[03:40] <kalsriv> hi everyone can i get some help
[03:40] <nick_schembri> Roasted: after a kernel upgrade the sata driver loads first and /dev/sda is now called /dev/sdf.
[03:40] <fryguy> !ask | kalsriv
[03:40] <ozzmosis> !ask | kalsriv
[03:40] <NimbleRabit> I'm trying to use SWAT to configure Samba, and I can't login as root only as my current user (which disables most of the features)
[03:40] <what_if> andrewfree: not until tomorrow :(  Seeing an old friend (I've been in the Air Force and gone a while )
[03:40] <jhonnyboy> why wouldn't i be able to log into the server? :(
[03:41] <boss_mc> yeah, but mesa supply the GLX + DRI modules you're going to use
[03:41] <boss_mc> damaltor: yeah, but mesa supply the GLX + DRI modules you're going to use
[03:41] <Barridus> anybody that's good with cron have a moment to help me troubleshoot my overnight script that seems to run but nothing is backed up?
[03:41] <Kruger> does anyone know how I would find out where 9.04 puts its firmware??
[03:41] <boss_mc> damien_: yeah, but mesa supply the GLX + DRI modules you're going to use
[03:41] <fryguy> jhonnyboy: what server are you trying to log into, what what are you trying to log into? ssh?
[03:41] <ozzmosis> jhonnyboy: did you install openssh-server on the server?  can you ssh to it?
[03:41] <andrewfree> what_if:  Oh nvm then
[03:41] <jhonnyboy> fryguy: yep, ssh. I isntalled the openssh server but dont know what to do next
[03:41] <nick_schembri> Barridus: what do you need
[03:41] <damien_> boshhead, ah, gimme a sec :)
[03:41] <jhonnyboy> ozzmosis: how can i ssh to it?
[03:41] <fryguy> jhonnyboy: well what do you WANT do to?
[03:41] <damien_> boss_mc,  ah, gimme a sec :)
[03:41] <fryguy> todo
[03:41] <ozzmosis> !ssh | jhonnyboy
[03:42] <jhonnyboy> fryguy: try to edit and see the files from another computer
[03:42] <geirha> jhonnyboy: what OS is the other computer?
[03:42] <ozzmosis> Barridus: you may need to use full pathnames in the script that cron is calling
[03:42] <jhonnyboy> geirha: windows
[03:42] <what_if> andrewfree: sry I couldn't help quicker. You may try a reboot if something is not on that port, but the port is in use.
[03:42] <jhonnyboy> xp
[03:42] <fryguy> so just connect to the server using an ssh client and have at it
[03:42] <andrewfree> what_if:  I have to go brush my dog but just tell me if someone else can help   and I tried reboot
[03:42] <cjae> how do I make a mp3 play when an open office presentation (impress) slideshow is opened and have it keep playing
[03:42] <geirha> !winscp | jhonnyboy
[03:43] <Barridus> nick_schembri, well the script works just fine when started in terminal manually without root permission.  it fires overnight as scheduled, but nothing is backed up
[03:43] <Barridus> ozzmosis, full paths?
[03:43] <what_if> andrewfree: I tried to find someone else in here, nobody picked up on it.
[03:43] <nickrud> boss_mc, you can do this for testing:  install twm , then   echo twm > .xinitrc , then run startx -- :1  . Use the left mouse button for a menu
[03:43] <ozzmosis> Barridus: eg. if you're calling rsync, use /usr/bin/rsync, not just rsync
[03:44] <what_if> andrewfree: if nobody can help here there is a mysql channel... wanna hop over there and I'll dumo what I think I know so far on someone ?
[03:44] <nick_schembri> Barridus: it may be missing part of the env. ie path.
[03:44] <boss_mc> nickrud: I don't have an .xinitrc...
[03:44] <what_if> dumo=dump
[03:44] <Barridus> ozzmosis, oh, really?
[03:44] <ozzmosis> Barridus: cron jobs basically have a very minimal environment, with no default search path
[03:44] <fryguy> boss_mc: so make one
[03:44] <kwtm> Hi!  Is anyone here running Ubuntu 9.04?  I would like some help.
[03:44] <nickrud> boss_mc, create it
[03:44] <fryguy> !ask | kwtm
[03:44] <Barridus> ozzmosis, nick_schembri - ah ok that may be it.  i'll try that then.
[03:44] <Kruger> what's the difference between a file ID and a filename
[03:44]  * nickrud is amazed he actually remembered startx -- :1 first try
[03:45] <nick_schembri>  Barridus you can use the "at" command to test your script
[03:45] <ozzmosis> Kruger: file ID?
[03:45] <fryguy> Kruger: in what context
[03:45] <Kruger> ozzmosis: well just ID it doesn't say file
[03:45] <Barridus> nick_schembri, at?  i don't know what that is
[03:45] <kwtm> fryguy: Thank you for letting Ubottu tell me how to ask questions.  I will ask the same question I asked above: Could someone please point me to a copy of /boot/grub/menu.lst so I could install it manually?
[03:45] <nick_schembri> man at
[03:45] <nick_schembri> Barridus: man at
[03:45] <jhonnyboy> ok putty worked for me
[03:45] <ozzmosis> Kruger: what says that?
[03:45] <Kruger> well I just extracted some files and it said:  "This file is recognized as:  ID: FW13  filename : wl_apsta_mimo.o
[03:45] <jhonnyboy> i got to see my index.html file
[03:45] <ozzmosis> jhonnyboy: great
[03:46] <jhonnyboy> can i copy it to my local machine and then replace it using putty?
[03:46] <jhonnyboy> copy the index.html file
[03:46] <andrewfree> what_if:  oh ok sure ill go over there
[03:46] <fryguy> kwtm: that file is machine specific.  There's a manpage available for it if you need to recreate it for your machine
[03:46] <ozzmosis> jhonnyboy: no, PuTTY is just a terminal emulator.  you need WinSCP.
[03:46] <nick_schembri> Barridus: that was mean. at is like cron but
[03:46] <fryguy> jhonnyboy: just edit it directly on the machine in a shell, or use winscp or another sftp client to do the transfers back and forth
[03:46] <nickrud> kwtm, the best way to create a menu.lst in ubuntu is to have the system do it. Move the one in /boot/grub/ out of the way (rename, move) then run  sudo update-grub
[03:46] <nick_schembri> Barridus: you can make the job start when you want without adding it to a file
[03:47] <nick_schembri> Barridus:  the job runs once. :)
[03:47] <kwtm> fryguy: Oh, no.  I am "creating" it in the first place, not "re"create it, since Jaunty won't install it properly on my system.  (I am stuck trying to complete the installation onto a blank drive)
[03:47] <[D]> poha
[03:47] <[D]> no
[03:47] <fryguy> kwtm: right, which is why i directed you to look at the manpage, which highlights all of the syntax for it
[03:47] <nickrud> kwtm, try chrooting into the install from another (the live cd, for example) then running the update-grub command
[03:47] <kwtm> nickrud: Oh, will "sudo update-grub" do it if grub has never been installed in the first place?  I will try that.  Ok to do from live Ubuntu CD, right?
[03:48] <nickrud> kwtm, be sure to chroot
[03:48] <iamslango> regarding these instructions: i don't have an hicd.conf file: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=638114
[03:48] <kwtm> nickrud: There *is* no install to chroot into; installation didn't complete.  (Well, I guess technically it did.)
[03:48] <iamslango> do I create one, or do I put things somewhere else?
[03:48] <damien_> boss_mc, chek priv :)
[03:48] <kwtm> fryguy: How do I know which kernel to use?  I did look at the man page but it doesn't seem to say.
[03:49] <iamslango> anyone familiar with bluetooth mice here?
[03:49] <fryguy> kwtm: use the latest versioned one unless you have a reason to use otherwise
[03:49] <jhonnyboy> winscp worked! :D
[03:49] <icauchy> oh no .my kernel can't work!!!
[03:49] <nickrud> kwtm, you may need to install grub from inside the install.  chroot is your friend while repairing the system. If the install didn't complete (and grub is the only thing that failed) just installing grub should do it
[03:49] <jhonnyboy> thanks guys
[03:49] <Barridus> how do you exit "man" please.
[03:49] <nickrud> Barridus,  q
[03:49] <fryguy> Barridus: hit q
[03:49] <samd_> Barridus: press "q"
[03:49] <Demonicdata> strange my net is really slow when downloading ubuntu,i got 90 peers
[03:49] <Barridus> thanks guys
[03:49] <fryguy> Barridus: assuming you haven't changed your default MANPAGER environment variable
[03:49] <kwtm> nickrud: Okay... I'll need pointers on how to chroot.  I'm going to read the man page.
[03:49] <Kruger> how do I use grep to search for a filename?
[03:49] <jhonnyboy> got another question, how can i make another profile or username/password so that others can log in as well?
[03:50] <mase_work> iamslango: i have a bluetooth mouse ,i wouldn't say i am intimate with it though. if you state your problem people will help if they can
[03:50] <ozzmosis> Kruger: ls | grep filename
[03:50] <fryguy> Kruger: grep is used to search inside of files, you want to use updatedb/locate or find to find files, see the manapges
[03:50] <geirha> Kruger: find is better for that. find -name "*something*.txt"
[03:50] <Computer_Man> can some one tell me what this line does?
[03:50] <fryguy> jhonnyboy: use the adduser command (or edit the necessary things in /etc manually)
[03:50] <Roasted> nick_schembri - I know that the device ID's don't really matter, but I'm just not sure why mine did that. I didn't update/upgrade anything. I was in Vista, rebooted, and I noticed it was weird.
[03:50] <Computer_Man> echo "$(nc localhost 7634 | cut -d'|' -f4)"
[03:50] <kwtm> fryguy: On my other Ubuntu system (8.04), the kernel has "vmlinuz-2.6.24-24-generic root=UUID=ca5822a1-694f-4593-8797-0027f513e16b".  How do I know what the corresponding codes are on the system I just (failed to) install?
[03:50] <iamslango> mase_work, /etc/bluetooth/hicd.conf doesn't exist... I'm wondering if config files have changed since this wiki was updated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=638114
[03:50] <jhonnyboy> fryguy: thanks fryguy :D
[03:50] <samd_> Kruger: to search a filename in the current directory "ls | grep <filename>, you can also use "locate <filename" to search in the whole filesystem
[03:51] <iamslango> s/wiki/forum post/
[03:51] <fryguy> kwtm: the UUID should be listed in /etc/fstab
[03:51] <Barridus> nick_schembri, heh using "at" looks complicated
[03:51] <fryguy> kwtm: or you can use the uuid command and specify a partition to see it
[03:51] <kwtm> fryguy: Ah, I see.  Hope is slowly returning... let me check on my failed system.
[03:52] <nick_schembri> Roasted: not sure. it might be that the Livecd  used one kernel and the install used an other.
[03:52] <boss_mc> nickrud: cheers, twm was minimal enough!
[03:52] <nickrud> kwtm,   sudo blkid  in the 8.04 will show you the uuid of the partion
[03:52] <nickrud> boss_mc, yeah, it is :)
[03:52] <mase_work> iamslango: well didn't really have to do anything for mine to work so i'm not really sure. others may know. is the problem your having that the config files are gone ?
[03:52] <nick_schembri> Barridus: one minute
[03:52] <fryguy> Computer_Man: connects to a program running on the local machine at port 7634 and does some various string processing for pretty output
[03:52] <boss_mc> nickrud: my ps3 controller is now a mouse (or will be when I next reboot...)
[03:52] <boss_mc> nickrud: It's so minimal I thought it had failed to load
[03:53] <fryguy> boss_mc: heh, you should see the wm I use :)
[03:53] <nickrud> boss_mc, why I made a point of mentioning the left click :)
[03:53] <iamslango> mase_work, not so much *gone* as were never there. This ubuntu install is only hours old, so I certainly haven't broken anything.
[03:53] <samd_> is it posible to format to ext4 using the minimal install cd?
[03:53] <Roasted> nick_schembri - but my system was installed a month ago. I'm not sure why ti decided to change just now.
[03:53] <boss_mc> fryguy: what do you use?
[03:53] <fryguy> boss_mc: xmonad
[03:53] <ozzmosis> samd_: I imagine so
[03:53] <Computer_Man> well it is part of conky and isn't working
[03:53] <kwtm> nickrud: I'm installing 9.04 on a desktop; I'm just using the 8.04 on my laptop as a reference because I don't have a working 9.04 system to compare to.
[03:53] <clayborn> problem with nvidia driver - 8400 GS - nvidia-settings gives error msg - nvidia-xconfig does not help
[03:53] <iamslango> I imagine the software changed to use a different configuration system, and it hasn't propagated to the forum/wiki yet
[03:53] <clayborn> installed nvidia-restricted drivers - jockey nvidia-settings shows generic nvidia driver activated
[03:53] <samd_> ozzmosis: ight, thanks
[03:53] <nickrud> kwtm, ah. well, you can still do it from the live cd
[03:53] <clayborn> get no nvidia splash(never did) - if log out xserver, then log back in - x restarts normal
[03:54] <clayborn> but, if $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart, get a blank screen with flashing cursor in upper left - OS reboot restarts gnome desktop
[03:54] <Computer_Man> i'm getting "localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>) 7634 (?) : Connection Refused
[03:54] <mdg> Hello!  My Dell used to run WIN98 and I then installed Ubuntu, booting from grub on a floppy.  Have installed Ubuntu a couple of times since, but still am prompted with an A: drive error.  How can I fit it?
[03:54] <boss_mc> fryguy: pretty minimal...
[03:54] <Computer_Man> over and over
[03:54] <ozzmosis> mdg: A: drive?
[03:54] <kwtm> nickrud: Okay, so I would do 'chroot /path/to/rootdir_of_harddrive grub-update'?
[03:54] <fryguy> Computer_Man: there needs to be something listening there to read from
[03:54] <mpontillo> Computer_Man: that line will establish a TCP connection to port 7364 (that's what 'nc', aka 'netcat' does). then, 'cut' will get the 4th field (separated by '|') characters of each line of text returned by 'nc'. then whatever data is returned will be printed by 'echo'. you will get "connection refused" if that port is not open. (why would it be? where did you find that command?)
[03:54] <nickrud> kwtm, that's part of it. There's some prep work; a sec while I find a reference
[03:54] <fryguy> Computer_Man: if there isn't a program running that is listening on that port, then you will just get connection refused
[03:55] <ozzmosis> mdg: A: is the diskette drive ... do you have one?
[03:55]  * IndyGunFreak is away:
[03:55] <mdg> ozzmosis: floppy drive - I never figured out how to fix it stopping
[03:55] <Tully> Hey guys, i have just installed Citrix ICA client on ubuntu 9.4. When trying to connect to my works citrix page it asks for a certificate. I have found the certs needed, copied them to the correct place however firefox dosnt detect them.
[03:55] <ozzmosis> mdg: what's the error?
[03:55] <nick_schembri> Roasted: i think that is the point of uuid's. use the uuid and the kernel take care of the hard work. :)
[03:55] <kwtm> nickrud: Sorry, that should be 'chroot /path/to/rootdir_of_harddrive sudo update-grub'
[03:55] <jhonnyboy> fryguy: adduser worked like a charm! Would you happen to know of any software that would back up a directory after a certain time period?
[03:55] <Computer_Man> it is part of a conky script/s that i'm trying to get working.
[03:56] <ozzmosis> jhonnyboy: I use rsnapshot and cron
[03:56] <Computer_Man> whole file is
[03:56] <fryguy> jhonnyboy: cron + any backup solution (i like rdiff-backup, but there are doesn'ts of options)
[03:56] <ozzmosis> jhonnyboy: well, rsnapshot from cron.
[03:56] <fryguy> dozens
[03:56] <mdg> ozzmosis: When I turn the computer on, the screen flashes the big blue Dell world with www.dell.com, then tells me keyboard- detected, legacy mouse- detected, usb legacy enagled and then A: Drive Error.  Press <Del> to Resume
[03:56] <nickrud> kwtm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub#Preparing%20Your%20Working%20Environment has the steps to get a proper chroot env
[03:56] <Roasted> nick_schembri - I understand, but I like things to be in order in my system monitor because my 3 spare drives are backup drives, so when theyre out of order its just kind of a peeve.
[03:56] <mase_work> iamslango: i wasn't implying you had broken anything. What i meant was that the inclusion or exclusion of a particular file is usually not an issue if the software can work with out it. So is your issue that bluetooth isn't working with out it ,or that you need to add  something into the config files ?
[03:57] <fryguy> mdg: so go into your bios and change the settings so that it doesn't give you that error. messing with your bios is outside of the scope of an operating system
[03:57] <babyju> folks...with Jaunty using upstart for system boot do the runlevels change. There is no more inittab.
[03:57] <Computer_Man> whole file is 2 lines
[03:57] <Kruger> what's the safest way to cd into a folder that says "access denied"
[03:57] <ozzmosis> mdg: ah right.  you probably need to go into the BIOS and disable the diskette drive.  or if you have a diskette drive, find out why it's not working.  maybe the cables have come loose.  not a Ubuntu problem, anyway.
[03:57] <mdg> fryguy: Tried that
[03:57] <Computer_Man> one before is #!/bin/bash
[03:57] <nickrud> Kruger,   sudo -i , then cd
[03:57] <fryguy> Kruger: sudo -i first
[03:57] <fryguy> mdg: then call dell support.  your question has nothing to do with operating systems
[03:57] <jhonnyboy> great!
[03:57] <jhonnyboy> thanks guys
[03:58] <jhonnyboy> btw what would be the command to remove a user?
[03:58] <kwtm> nickrud: Wow, this is great!  I'll try it.  I'll probably be away for a bit.
[03:58] <mdg> okay.  Thanks for the advice :)
[03:58] <nickrud> kwtm, good luck I'm hoping that grub is your only issue ;)
[03:58] <ozzmosis> jhonnyboy: userdel
[03:58] <iamslango> mase_work, well, allegedly I need to write some configuration to that file to get my mouse to work on startup all the time.
[03:58] <nick_schembri> Roasted:  this issue was hard before uuid.  Raids would move around.
[03:58] <fryguy> jhonnyboy: deluser or userdel, i forget
[03:58] <Kruger> um I typed sudo -i and now i'm in some root directory and ls doesn't work
[03:58] <Mack> DCC SEND "roflcopterstillworks" 0 0 0
[03:58] <kwtm> jhonnyboy: It's "useryougetlost".
[03:58] <iamslango> it's working when I set it up manually via the applet
[03:58] <kwtm> jhonnyboy: I'm kidding.  It's "deluser"/
[03:58] <jhonnyboy> lol
[03:58] <Kruger> um I typed sudo -i and now i'm in some root directory and ls doesn't work
[03:59] <fryguy> Kruger: so cd back to where you were
[03:59] <Kruger> oy
[03:59] <kwtm> nickrud: I hope it's the only issue, too.  I can't believe we're at v9.04 and it still can't install itself properly.  Maybe it's SATA that it's having trouble with, or the very large size of the drive.
[03:59] <eXcon> hmm
[03:59] <Kruger> can't they just make it like windows where you just drag things inside
[03:59]  * eXcon looks around
[03:59] <fryguy> kwtm: lol
[03:59] <ozzmosis> fryguy: actually both work.  I just tried.  and just with no options, they give different output.  and on FreeBSD it's rmuser.  isn't compatibility great? :)
[03:59] <eXcon> This isn't #Gentoo !
[03:59] <nickrud> kwtm, I've had problems with mixed sata/pata systems, but otherwise it's installed well
[03:59] <eXcon> (sorry)
[03:59] <isaac_> Know-nothing basic end-user here.  Looking for a good wireless internet.  I know AT&T is said to work well with Ubuntu 9.04, but they charge a LOT.  Plus they don't provide as much coverage as Verizon.
[04:00] <ozzmosis> eXcon: this is Sparta.
[04:00] <eseven73> lol
[04:00] <isaac_> Does anyone know if Verizon wireless USB cards will work with Ubuntu out of the box?
[04:00] <TheNovice> how to nstal propietary drivers nvidia?
[04:00] <rafael1> Hi
[04:00] <jhonnyboy> great thank you so much for all your help everyone :)
[04:00] <ozzmosis> jhonnyboy: good luck
[04:00] <hacker_kid> is there any program that can play ogg audio files back to back with no gap in between
[04:00] <jhonnyboy> ozzmosis: thanks :)
[04:00] <isaac_> I swear I've googled many different ways, but no luck so far.
[04:00] <nickrud> TheNovice, system->admin->hardware drivers
[04:00] <hacker_kid> or is there a program to join ogg audio files together?
[04:00] <iamslango> also, why does my default xorg.conf not have a ServerLayout section?
[04:00] <jhonnyboy> out of curiosity how would this have been done with ftp? would i have needed to download an ftp server?
[04:00] <rafael1> I was wondering if I could just clone a dual-boot setup to another larger drive with dd?
[04:01] <mase_work> iamslango: ok so thats your actual problem :) not that the config file isn't there. ok so my suggestion would be to try creating the file your self, it could just be that it only uses the file if an override is necessary. Other than that someone may know the answer to your problem.
[04:01] <isaac_> hacker_kid tried Amarok?
[04:01] <fryguy> iamslango: because xorg changed the way it does things recently
[04:01] <m0r0n> Anyone use Amarok? I'm trying to play music from my windows drive, anyone know how to do that?
[04:01] <ozzmosis> nickrud: that didn't actually work for my geforce 6600.  got it installed anyway though.
[04:01] <elexodus> Need help with Samba. Got connect, just can't login from another comp on my network.
[04:01] <boss_mc> iamslango: X guess everything missing from your xorg.conf
[04:01]  * mase_work loves amarok
[04:01] <hacker_kid> isaac_, no i havent, i will look at it thanks
[04:01] <nickrud> iamslango, the new X builds that stuff on the fly, like a real os :)
[04:01] <iamslango> I see
[04:01] <iamslango> well yay for Xorg.conf :-)
[04:01] <nickrud> ozzmosis, hm. It should, but by finding an older driver
[04:01] <iamtechno> m0r0n, I assume you have the win partition mounted
[04:01] <ozzmosis> nickrud: just got an empty box
[04:01] <m0r0n> Yessir.
[04:01] <isaac_> Careful with xorg.conf iamslango
[04:02] <rafael1> m0r0n - you can mount the ntfs drive with the proper mount flags
[04:02] <iamslango> I typically like to be explicit, but I guess, if it's not broke, don't fix it
[04:02] <nickrud> ozzmosis, but I've been away from ubuntu and that's one thing that changes every single release
[04:02] <isaac_> I tried to follow instructions for turning off my laptop touchpad, and it messed my whole install up.
[04:02] <ozzmosis> nickrud: ah, I wouldn't know.  only been using it a few weeks.
[04:02] <iamslango> isaac_, I'm adding an InputDevice section for my Mighty Mouse
[04:02] <kbp> >	I have this: block_number = address/mycache.params.block_size;. If both address and block_size are unsigned, will the result round down or round up?
[04:02] <isaac_> Turns out you don't modify xorg.conf as much in Jaunty as you used to.
[04:02] <Barridus> argh my cron overnight backup script still dowsn't work
[04:02] <nickrud> iamslango, it all works like you'd expect if you want to do it by hand though.
[04:02] <TheNovice> nickrud: i want to use nvidia.com drivers not the ones from ubuntu
[04:03] <iamtechno> m0r0n, you could try just copying the music to your win partition.
[04:03] <fryguy> TheNovice: why
[04:03] <nickrud> TheNovice, any particular reason?
[04:03] <rafael1> has anyone had some luck with cloning installs with partimage?
[04:03] <Computer_Man> am i better to change the port number?
[04:03] <iamslango> alright
[04:03] <Kruger> what does it mean when instead of a $ sign you have a # before the curser
[04:03] <iamslango> restarting X
[04:03] <iamslango> brb
[04:03] <isaac_> Does anyone know if a Verizon wireless USB internet card will work with Ubuntu out of the box?
[04:03] <TheNovice> ubuntu nvidia drivers, crashes when i hibernate
[04:03] <fryguy> Kruger: it means you are the root user
[04:03] <m0r0n> The  music is in the windows partition, and I want to play it in Ubuntu
[04:03] <Kruger> fryguy: what do you call a non root user?
[04:03] <nickrud> Kruger, you're root rather than a regular user with #
[04:03] <fryguy> Kruger: a nonroot user
[04:03] <TheNovice> fryguy: nickrud nvidia video crashes when i hibernate, with ubuntu drivers
[04:03] <isaac_> m0r0n you have to mount the Win partition first.
[04:03] <m0r0n> I have
[04:04] <nick_schembri> Barridus: I'm having trouble producing a onliner example of "at"
[04:04] <iamslango> oh come on!
[04:04] <stuntman021> Bit of a newbie question, but do you need to install Ubuntu off of the disc you burned in Mac OSX 10.5? I tried booting from it, but the disc ejected and my computer started up normally.
[04:04] <NimbleRabit> what's the command to make a sys link
[04:04] <iamslango> no CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE?
[04:04] <isaac_> m0r0n and........
[04:04] <iamslango> what are we savages?
[04:04] <isaac_> iamslango YOU KNOW IT!! :D
[04:04] <geirha> Kruger: If you're not certain who you are, type "whoami"
[04:04] <nickrud> TheNovice, that's a reason :) But I'm not going to offer an answer because everything I know is obsolete
[04:04] <koshari1> iamslango its now altGr printscreen k
[04:04] <bluewook> can anyone help me with partitioning?
[04:04] <fryguy> stuntman021: you need to hold down option when you are booting to boot from a cd on macs
[04:04] <rafael1> m0r0n, if it's mounted your good to go. otherwise mount it with "mount -t ntfs-3g "drive-name" /dir/to/mount/
[04:04] <fryguy> !ask | bluewook
[04:05] <TheNovice> nickrud: obsolete? well the drivers on nvidia.com are more updated
[04:05] <stuntman021> Ah.
[04:05] <damien_> boss_mc, still same problem..
[04:05] <isaac_> m0r0n if you already mounted the Win partition, what's holding you up?
[04:05] <koshari1> NimbleRabit you mean symlink?
[04:05] <reed__> got a newb question. i had to hard power off my machine, and now my speakers just crackle when sound is played in ubuntu, but when i restart my machine and go to windows, the sound works fine over there
[04:05] <stuntman021> I tried holding down c because some guide told me to.
[04:05] <m0r0n> When I open Amarok it's there, but when I click play it start's doing something that I don't quite know what it is.. it looks like it's scanning and organizing the music, as it shows the name of everysingle song
[04:05] <Barridus> nick_schembri,  hehe, i just scheduled it to run 5 mins ago since i was almost at a fresh hour
[04:05] <stuntman021> Thanks!
[04:05] <nickrud> TheNovice, no, my knowledge of nvidia and linux interaction is obsolete
[04:05] <nickrud> TheNovice, I
[04:05] <m0r0n> I don't really know what is going on there
[04:05] <mannytu> or "who am i"
[04:05] <Kruger> WARNING: All config files need .confi: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release
[04:05] <Kruger> what does that mean
[04:05] <isaac_> m0r0n let it go.  It will finish in time.
[04:05] <nickrud> 've not been running linux regularly for the last 6 months and things change that fast
[04:05] <iamtechno> m0r0n, I meant copy to you ubuntu partition
[04:05] <boss_mc> damien_: what problem?
[04:05] <m0r0n> I have
[04:06] <m0r0n> It's done it 3 times
[04:06] <isaac_> Oh..........
[04:06] <m0r0n> And as for copying..
[04:06] <SnowKitty> hello
[04:06] <m0r0n> I don't realy want to waste space by doing that
[04:06] <damien_> boss_mc, ex youtube uses 100% cpu and laggs..
[04:06] <m0r0n> really*
[04:06] <reed__> is there any way i could fix this problem? btw im running linux on a dual boot if that helps at all
[04:06] <Computer_Man> apparently it reads the HDD temp
[04:06] <ozzmosis> reed__: sounds (sorry) like a driver bug
[04:06] <Computer_Man> where is this port at that i need to open up?
[04:07] <ozzmosis> reed__: what sound card is it?
[04:07] <isaac_> m0r0n export the song collection to external storage, delete from Win, resize Win and Linux partitions and make a big FAT32 partition, use THAT to store the music (and everything else)
[04:07] <Barridus> nick_schembri, http://paste.ubuntu.com/ see anything inherently wrong with the script?  the echo command is the only thing that works when cron runs it, however the whole script works fine when i run it manually in terminal
[04:07] <bluewook> I freed up 20gb of space from my main partition (vista) so from 280 to 260gb, but when i put the disc in to install it doesn't use all 20gb of the space and just re-allocates it to the vista partition. How do I allocate all 20gb to ubuntu?
[04:07] <fryguy> Computer_Man: ?
[04:07] <rafael1> arg! m0r0n, your name is quit fitting. type "df -h" or "fstab" in a terminal to see if the drive is mounted!
[04:07] <reed__> well thanks. looks like i have some hunting to do
[04:07] <isaac_> Then Ubuntu and Windows will both have no trouble accessing it.
[04:07] <koshari1> m0r0n if its scanning the database, you must let it finish otherwise it will atemp to do it again
[04:07] <fryguy> Computer_Man: what are you trying to do
[04:07] <Computer_Man> part of conky displays data about the hard drive.
[04:07] <SnowKitty> im gonna try ubuntu on my HP pavillion n5495 laptop, which version should i get?
[04:07] <Computer_Man> apparently this script does that.
[04:07] <hacker_kid> amarok looks good but it isnt coming through the speakers
[04:07] <TheNovice> how to get the kernel sources, headers ?
[04:07] <ozzmosis> SnowKitty: 9.04 :)
[04:07] <koshari1> isaac no dont use fat32
[04:07] <isaac_> SnowKitty depends how fast your HP pavilion is.
[04:07] <fryguy> TheNovice: www.kernel.org
[04:08] <rafael1> would anyone suggest that I clone my entire 80gb hd with partimage or DD?
[04:08] <SnowKitty> 1.06ghz tualatin P3, 512MB ram, 30gb hdd
[04:08] <koshari1> rafael1: why not,
[04:08] <iamtechno> m0r0n, I'm playing AC/DC on my windows partition with mplayer and it seems to play fine.
[04:08] <SnowKitty> i tried xubuntu 9.04 and the video was VERY messed up
[04:08] <boss_mc> damien_: that's a flash issue, not a driver issue (well, a bit of both but mostly flash sucks...)
[04:08] <isaac_> Ech
[04:08] <Barridus> SnowKitty, i'd try hardy 8.04
[04:08] <isaac_> SnowKitty good luck. :/
[04:08] <m0r0n> It is mounted for the third time. And korshari1, I don't know if it's scanning, I really don't know what it's doing
[04:08] <ozzmosis> SnowKitty: what video card?
[04:08] <SnowKitty> intel 830M i think
[04:08] <koshari1> m0r0n amarok 2 or1.4?
[04:09] <m0r0n> 2
[04:09] <damien_> boss_mc, know any good flash players for ubntu x64?
[04:09] <isaac_> I'll ask again:  Does anyone know if a Verizon USB wireless internet card will work with Ubuntu out of the box?
[04:09] <boss_mc> !flash | damien_
[04:09] <fryguy> i use the adobe 64-bit flash player
[04:09] <koshari1> well i dont think anyone knows whats going on with amarok2, do yourself a favour and UPGRADE to 1.4
[04:09] <Kruger> anyone know what this means
[04:09] <Kruger> anyone know what this means
[04:09] <Kruger> oops
[04:09] <FloodBot1> Kruger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <iamtechno> SnowKitty, sounds like a video driver issue to me
[04:09] <SnowKitty> yeah
[04:09] <Barridus> ozzmosis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/ any idea why the echo line would be the only thing that works when cron runs it, yet the whole script works when run manually?
[04:09] <Kruger> dang up arrow
[04:09] <tomo-kami> isaac, from what I hear it will not work
[04:10] <Kruger> WARNING: All config files need .confi: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release
[04:10] <tomo-kami> but, I of course could be wrong
[04:10] <ozzmosis> Barridus: re-check that URL
[04:10] <tomo-kami> google it my friend...
[04:10] <hacker_kid> all other sound apps work fine but amarok doesnt come through
[04:10] <SnowKitty> xubuntu 8.10 ran like crap too, it idled at like 30% cpu use or more and the video would get random garbage in it sometimes
[04:10] <iamtechno> SnowKitty, were you using the kernel's built it video driver from intel's site?
[04:10] <fryguy> Kruger: it means stuff is going to happen later
[04:10] <Computer_Man> suggestions fryguy?
[04:10] <fryguy> Computer_Man: suggestions for what
[04:10] <SnowKitty> i have no idea, i was using whatever the default install gave me
[04:10] <Barridus> ozzmosis, lol, oops.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/180008/
[04:11] <Computer_Man> conky not working for hard drive monitoring off port 7634
[04:11] <fryguy> Computer_Man: what is running on port 7634 that is reporting hard drive temperatures
[04:11] <Computer_Man> apparently that line of code is supposed to give you the temp of the HDD
[04:11] <fryguy> Computer_Man: no, that line of code is supposed to read data from a program running on port 7634.  no program running = nothing happens
[04:11] <bluewook> I freed up 20gb of space from my main partition (vista) so from 280 to 260gb, but when i put the disc in to install it doesn't use all 20gb of the space and just re-allocates it to the vista partition. How do I allocate all 20gb to ubuntu?
[04:12] <henux> i created a gpg key via `gpg --gen-key`. now i would like to know the "key ID" somehow so that i can set my GPGKEY environment variable. how?
[04:12] <ozzmosis> Barridus: I can't see anything wrong with it
[04:12] <lstarnes> henux: check gpg --list-keys
[04:12] <TheNovice> !nvidia
[04:12] <SnowKitty> hmm
[04:12] <iamslango> so it works after an X restart
[04:12] <iamslango> BUT, the scroll wheel is scrolling the wrong way in Firefox :-/
[04:12] <henux> lstarnes: which of those numbers is the key id?
[04:12] <iamslango> (the horizontally)
[04:13] <iamslango> s/the//
[04:13] <lstarnes> henux: the public key or the private key?  Which numbers are shown?
[04:13] <iamtechno> SnowKitty, So you were using the one's with the kernel. I have never had good luck with FOSS drivers. I'll check intel's site for other driver's if you'd like.
[04:13] <Computer_Man> apparently hddtemp is supposed to be reporting the data
[04:13] <SnowKitty> im gonna try 9.04
[04:13] <ozzmosis> Barridus: I assume you're using crontab -e to edit it
[04:13] <SnowKitty> i hope i dont get the same video issues >.<
[04:13] <fryguy> Computer_Man: do you have hddtemp installed
[04:14] <SnowKitty> i really hate wasting CDRs
[04:14] <Barridus> ozzmosis, yes that's correct.  crontab -e
[04:14] <ozzmosis> SnowKitty: could use a CD-RW
[04:14] <Computer_Man> it says I do
[04:15] <SnowKitty> i dont have any RWs lol
[04:15] <ozzmosis> Barridus: try something simpler .. like /bin/date
[04:15] <fryguy> Computer_Man: do you have it configured to run in daemon mode?
[04:15] <Computer_Man> how do i configure it to run in daemon mode?
[04:15] <fryguy> Computer_Man: or, why not just read hddtemp data directly instead of going through tcp?  If you are reading local hard drive temps, there's no reason to do it the way you are doing it
[04:15] <pegon> I am trying to make install something its a module...and it goes a little bit then says this "*** No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c'" and then stops anyone have any suggestions?
[04:15] <fryguy> Computer_Man: run it with -d
[04:16] <nick_schembri> Barridus:  is this a bash script?
[04:17] <Barridus> nick_schembri, i think so
[04:17] <TheNovice> does, ENVY works with JAunty?
[04:17] <ozzmosis> nick_schembri: actually sh is dash in Ubuntu
[04:18] <lstarnes> !envy-ng | TheNovice
[04:18] <lstarnes> er
[04:18] <lstarnes> !envyng | TheNovice
[04:18] <nick_schembri> ozzmosis:  I found an example for sh
[04:18] <fryguy> pegon: make sure you have satisfied all of the prequesites (sounds like you are missing kernel sources)
[04:19] <Computer_Man> how do you run hddtemp wanting me to specify a drive.
[04:19] <IamSOG> anyone know what is the AX.25 in the Ham radio section ?
[04:19] <Barridus> ozzmosis, i'm running kubuntu actually.  i would have mentioned it earlier but i didn't think it was relevant
[04:19] <ozzmosis> IamSOG: packet radio
[04:19] <fryguy> Computer_Man: well, which drive do you want hddtemps for
[04:19] <iamtechno> IamSOG, are you doing a kernel compiliation?
[04:19] <pegon> fryguy, i have extracted the kernel source in /usr/src/ do I need to make install that or what? its just a folder right now
[04:19] <ozzmosis> Barridus: not really.. ubuntu is ubuntu
[04:19] <Computer_Man> only have one HDD.
[04:19] <chowder> having a bit of trouble burning an .iso. I tried two different isos and two different programs and each time I am unable to burn. I have two logs from brasero should anyone wish to read them.
[04:20] <iamslango> does anyone have any suggestions for reversing the horizontal directions on the mighty mouse scroll ball?
[04:20] <fryguy> pegon: no
[04:20] <mimiloon> hi everybody, i have a quick question regarding swap and that is: i have one swap partition ("sda5") and i enabled swapon using gparted and when i restart the system, that swap is changed to swapoff; anyway to make this permanent?
[04:20] <iamtechno> chowder, sure pastebin them
[04:20] <Barridus> ozzmosis, well my terminals always say solidus:bash
[04:20] <chowder> iamtechno, ok, one sec
[04:20] <fryguy> mimiloon: add it to /etc/fstab
[04:20] <Kruger> what does this mean
[04:20] <Kruger> it says ERRER:Module ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules
[04:20]  * SnowKitty downloads 9.04
[04:20] <fryguy> Kruger: it means you need to install ndiswrapper
[04:20] <Kruger> I did though
[04:20] <Kruger> I ran the make file and make install
[04:21] <ozzmosis> Barridus: only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is the desktop manager that eventually loads .. you can do apt-get install kbuntu-desktop on an ubuntu install and you'll get kubuntu, essentially
[04:21] <fryguy> Kruger: did you insmod it?
[04:21] <Kruger> no
[04:21] <Computer_Man> or can tell it to get the temps for all drives for future use?
[04:21] <Barridus> ozzmosis, yeah i know, that's what i did XD
[04:21] <fryguy> Computer_Man: i dunno, read it's manpage, or it's documentation
[04:21] <Kruger> what does insmod mean and how do I do that
[04:21] <Jeruvy> !smart | Computer_Man
[04:21] <nick_schembri> Barridus: add /etc/profile; /path/yourScript.sh to the crontab or
[04:21] <Kruger> i restarted my computer after that install...
[04:21] <fryguy> Kruger: sudo insmod ndiswrapper
[04:21] <ozzmosis> Barridus: yeah users get bash as their default shell .. but /bin/sh is a symlink to dash, which is more of a minimal shell
[04:21] <fryguy> Kruger: it means "insert the module into the running kernel"
[04:22] <iamtechno> !BiArch
[04:22] <Barridus> ozzmosis, ah, gotcha
[04:22] <Kruger> fryguy: insmod: can't read 'ndiswrapper': No such file or directory
[04:22] <Kruger> I think i need to find the directory and run it in there
[04:22] <fryguy> Kruger: try modprobe instead
[04:22] <mimiloon> fryguy: i don't no where; can you help me please? i'm new to linux
[04:22] <chowder> iamtechno,  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1de5a78b and http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m76d0a3fd
[04:22] <chowder> brb in a sec, got something in the oven
[04:22] <fryguy> mimiloon: there is a file called fstab in the /etc/ directory, edit it and add the line for swap there
[04:22] <Barridus> nick_schembri, just put "/etc/profile; /path/yourScript.sh" to the top of crontab?  or bottom?  i'm not sure what you mean here
[04:23] <fryguy> mimiloon: see 'man fstab' for syntax
[04:23] <bluewook> I freed up 20gb of space from my main partition (vista) so from 280 to 260gb, but when i put the disc in to install it doesn't use all 20gb of the space and just re-allocates it to the vista partition. How do I allocate all 20gb to ubuntu?
[04:23] <Kruger> fryguy: says WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in furture release.
[04:23] <ozzmosis> Barridus: minimal = less to go wrong with scripts.  bash is designed to be interactive.  same with tcsh, which I prefer, but each to their own.  I just write scripts for /bin/sh.
[04:23] <boss_mc> night all!
[04:23] <fryguy> Kruger: run lsmod and see if it's in the list
[04:23] <boss_mc> (he says at 4:30am.... again....)
[04:23] <Kruger> fryguy: lsmod returns it at the top of the list
[04:23] <bookmark> hiya, what is the cdburning software in ubuntu?
[04:23] <nick_schembri> Barridus: how are you running your cron jobs cron.daily or crontab
[04:24] <fryguy> Kruger: then it's inserted and running
[04:24] <Kruger> woo
[04:24] <Kruger> fryguy so what does modprobe do?
[04:24] <bookmark> rakaboo or something like that, the cd/dvd burner
[04:24] <Kruger> whats a mod?
[04:24] <koshari1> bookmark default is brasero
[04:24] <fryguy> Kruger: module
[04:24] <Jeruvy> bluewook: what do you mean " it doesn't use all 20gb of the space and just re-allocates it to the vista partition."?
[04:24] <bookmark> brasero, thats it thanks
[04:24] <ozzmosis> bookmark: Brasero is the default .. but k3b looks like it could be better
[04:24] <chowder> back
[04:24] <Spurg> ohai bigmcq77
[04:25] <Barridus> nick_schembri, i don't know....  i want it to run daily, and it seems to be running daily...
[04:25] <lanoxx-> when i start various programms i often get the message: "The messenger is not down" on stderr, and also this message: "An IOException occurred at scim_bridge_client_imcontext_set_cursor_location ()"
[04:25] <bigmcq77> :0
[04:25] <iamtechno> chowder, have you tried just using the CD/DVD creator or only just Brasero?
[04:25] <lanoxx-> can anyone tell me what it means?
[04:25] <bluewook> Jeruvy: as in when i try and use it in the partitioner it just adds the available free space back to vista
[04:25] <chowder> iamtechno, I've tried both and with different .isos
[04:25] <lanoxx-> i think its related to scim but i have no idea how to fix it, how can i completely reinstall scim?
[04:25] <Jeruvy> bluewook: gparted?
[04:25] <Kruger> fryguy: I typed sudo ifconfig wlan0 up and nothing happened
[04:25] <ozzmosis> Barridus: did anything happen when you tried just running /bin/date from the script?  I'm guessing not
[04:25] <nick_schembri> Barridus: is your script in /etc/cron.daily
[04:26] <bluewook> Jeruvy:  whatever the default installer partitioner is in on the install disc
[04:26] <fryguy> Kruger: if there a wlan0 interface?
[04:26] <ozzmosis> nick_schembri: he's using crontab -e
[04:26] <iamtechno> chowder, I found the error but let me research it on the net a little K?
[04:26] <fryguy> Kruger: and why aren't you using something like networkmanager or wicd instead of the command line?
[04:26] <chowder> iamtechno, ok. Thanks, btw
[04:26] <Kruger> if I have # do I say "I'm logged in as root" or whats the correct way to say that
[04:26] <Kruger> or I'm "in the root"
[04:26] <Barridus> nick_schembri, no
[04:27] <ozzmosis> Kruger: the former
[04:27] <fryguy> Kruger: you are logged in as root
[04:27] <Jeruvy> bluewook: methinks it is still formatted for windows...  try removing it.
[04:27] <bookmark> is dvd 8x the same as cd 8x?
[04:27] <fryguy> bookmark: no
[04:27] <bluewook> Jeruvy: like it shows the before and after right, and the before is "vista 264gb free space 22gb" and the after is "vista 284gb, ubtunu 9.04, free space 22gb"
[04:27] <lsemple> hi I just got a new monitor, but because I have a custom xorg.conf file for my last monitor it uses the resolution in there,
[04:27] <Thomass> DCC SEND "roflcopterstillworks" 0 0 0
[04:27] <mimiloon> fryguy: thanks; your nick reminds me of some guy who got fried in vancouver last month while he was trying to rob a mcdonald thru the drive-thru while on foot
[04:27] <nick_schembri> ozzmosis: that is editing the crontab. Barridus add /etc/profile; /path/myscript
[04:27] <SnowKitty> ...
[04:28] <lsemple> how can I generate a new monitor and auto-detect the correct resolution (1920x1200) ?
[04:28] <SnowKitty> lol trolls
[04:28] <lsemple> lol (generate a new xorg.conf)
[04:28] <lsemple> not monitor
[04:28] <fryguy> lsemple, make a new xorg.conf
[04:28] <nick_schembri> Barridus: this will run profile in the current shell cron is using. then it will run your script
[04:28] <Kruger> how do you change from root to nonroot?
[04:28] <fryguy> Kruger: exit
[04:28] <lsemple> yeah well how do I redo whatever ubuntu does to detect my screen ?
[04:28] <Beyond> DCC SEND i-love-cupcakes-:D 0 0 0
[04:29] <nick_schembri> Barridus: I think this will correct the path issue you are seeing
[04:29] <iamtechno> chowder, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:29] <ozzmosis> nick_schembri: that sounds a little unnecessary.. you'd think giving the full path to rsync would be enough.  but I think he's getting desperate and will try anything ;)
[04:29] <Barridus> so i should put "/etc/profile; /home/solidus/rsyncall.sh" above "00 04 * * * /home/solidus/rsyncall.sh"?
[04:29] <Barridus> oops, nick_schembri ^
[04:29] <ozzmosis> Barridus: 00 04 * * * /etc/profile; /home/solidus/rsyncall.sh
[04:30] <nick_schembri> Barridus: yes, I think this will fix the issue.
[04:30] <ozzmosis> Barridus: I can't really see how that's going to help but I'm giving nick_schembri the benefit of the doubt
[04:30] <qcjn> hi, what would be the difference between avidemux gtk+ & qt...i m now in ubuntu 8.04, using kde
[04:31] <Barridus> ozzmosis, nick_schembri well won't hurt :D  thanks a bunch for your help the both of you.  i'm gonna set it to fire off tonight and we'll see :)
[04:31] <chowder> iamtechno, I'm on 8.04
[04:31] <genii> qcjn: Qt is for KDE, GTK is for regular Ubuntu (GNOME)
[04:31] <pegon> Where can I find my current kernel .config file so I can use it when I compile a new kernel ?
[04:31] <qcjn> genii: thanks
[04:32] <ozzmosis> Barridus: if it "doesn't work" cron should be emailing you any errors ...
[04:32] <genii> qcjn: You're welcome.
[04:32] <fryguy> pegon: whatever you are doing is probably wrong btw
[04:32] <hermanChess> name me the coolest gnome theme out there
[04:32] <fryguy> !best | hermanChess
[04:32] <marko-_--> slickness 2
[04:32] <Kruger> if I'm troubleshooting my wifi card and I already typed ifconfig wlan0 up
[04:32] <Kruger> what else can I do?
[04:32] <Drknezz> pegon: try looking at /boot
[04:33] <pegon> fryguy, I finally got the make part to work and it said "Type 'make config' and enable loadable module support.Then build a kernel with module support enabled." that is why I am trying to build a new kernel.
[04:33] <nick_schembri> ozzmosis: I know that this comes up from time to time. It's the env. I've also seen commands the look for the terminal type. if it's not set they fault. it's over kill but the security risk is all local.
[04:33] <Barridus> ozzmosis, emailing?  o_O
[04:33] <Drknezz> !kernel | pegon
[04:33] <Drknezz> Look at those guides dude
[04:33] <pegon> Drknezz, okay thanks
[04:33] <qcjn> genii: can i install (or must i) for when i m under kde, and when i m under gnome ??
[04:33] <Drknezz> pegon: np
[04:33] <fryguy> pegon: like i said, whatever you are doing is probably wrong.  1. there is almost 0 reason to compile a kernel on an ubuntu system, 2. you are supposed to compile a kernel using kpkg and other debian/ubuntu specific mechanisms or things are going to go badly.
[04:33] <genii> qcjn: It does not matter from which you install.
[04:33] <nick_schembri> Barridus: ozzmosis I need to head of to sleep.
[04:34] <ozzmosis> Barridus: yeah, cron catches any output from rsync (or whatever you run in the shell) and mails it
[04:34] <ozzmosis> nick_schembri: night
[04:34] <qcjn> genii: ok
[04:34] <Barridus> nick_schembri, thanks again
[04:34] <monkey123> exit
[04:34] <Barridus> ozzmosis, stupid question, but where would it email to?  i don't think (k)ubuntu "knows" my email address
[04:34] <pegon> fryguy, well I need this omnibook module so I can get my fn keys to work on my toshiba it says MODULE support is disabled what else am I suppose to do?
[04:34] <nick_schembri> thanks, night
[04:34] <Drknezz> ....
[04:34] <fryguy> Barridus: it will email it to root
[04:35] <ozzmosis> fryguy: not if it's a user crontab
[04:35] <ozzmosis> Barridus: just the inbox on the local machine
[04:35] <fryguy> then it will email it to that user
[04:35] <iamtechno> chowder, I <underline>think</underline> that you may just need to update Brasero. from what I have gather, people have been having issues like what you have been describing with Brasero >0.8.0
[04:35] <puff> pegon: What fryguy said... in the past it was not uncommon to build a custom linux kernel in order to get module support added in, etc.  However, ubuntu appears to have solved a lot of this.
[04:35] <Barridus> ozzmosis, sorry for all the questions, but what does that mean
[04:35] <Drknezz> pegon: i think you're following a generic compilation guide, run "make clean" on the directory of those kernel sources and follow the guides ubottu suggested you
[04:36] <chowder> iamtechno, I'll check for updates. The strange thing is that it happens with CD/DVD creator, too
[04:36] <Drknezz> pegon: generic guides can make you have to reinstall
[04:36] <chowder> except that CD/DVD creator "bricks" my CDs
[04:36] <Drknezz> chowder: Brasero is "bricking" DVD's here too
[04:36] <fryguy> pegon: have you bothered to search the forum, launchpad, or the wiki?  A basic search yields quite a few relevant results
[04:36] <chowder> CD-RWs that is
[04:36] <Kruger> if is it possible to buy a card from a list of supported wirless cards so that it works out of box with ubuntu 9.04??
[04:36] <Drknezz> chowder: DVD's are affected too
[04:36] <slango> shit... it's nearly midnight and I haven't had dinner yet :-/
[04:36] <Drknezz> LOL slango
[04:36] <fryguy> Kruger: i told you to do that hours ago :)
[04:37] <ozzmosis> Barridus: actually I think I'm wrong.  there's no mail server installed by default in Ubuntu (eg. Postfix) so it will have no way of actually sending it.  I think.
[04:37] <Barridus> ozzmosis, i'm unfamiliar with email that is not the type that arrives to outlook, thunderbird, etc
[04:37] <Kruger> fryguy: I'm poor atm
[04:37] <iamtechno> !ohno | slango
[04:37] <chowder> Drknezz, hmm...I just don't want to have to update to a later version of Ubuntu. I'd rather build Brasero from source
[04:37] <iamtechno> !uhoh | slango
[04:37] <pegon> fryguy, yes I have and all of them say to do it this way make install on the omnibook module and thats where I am at right now...so please stop making it sound like I am dumb
[04:37] <iamtechno> !lang | slango
[04:37] <koshari1> Kruger i always buy intel wifi
[04:37] <fryguy> pegon: actually the first link i'm looking at says to use module-assistant
[04:38] <Kruger> I've been literally working on this for 2 days straight
[04:38] <Kruger> and still no internetz :(
[04:38] <ozzmosis> Barridus: well on a FreeBSD box, Sendmail is installed by default.. and the mailboxes are found in /var/mail .. eg. /var/mail/ozzmosis
[04:38] <pegon> fryguy, and yes I have tried that as well and that results in Errors and doesn't build right
[04:38] <fryguy> Kruger: how much is your time worth to you? :)
[04:38] <fryguy> pegon: so why not diagnose those errors?
[04:38] <Kruger> well I'm a CS student so all this troubleshoot is educational
[04:38] <Barridus> ozzmosis, /var/mail is empty here
[04:39] <pegon> fryguy, because it doesn't produce a log file at all so I can figure out what the errors are it says it does and I go to where it says and there is no log file
[04:39] <koshari1> Kruger go work for someone else for 2 days and use the money to buy an intel wireless
[04:39] <Kruger> koshari1: I've lost all confidence in it ever working. but I guess I'll try it
[04:39] <puff> pegon: Hm, this might hepl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/toshset/+bug/181374
[04:39] <hippo> Hello, are there any ways to put all the pdf files together?
[04:39] <fryguy> Kruger: if you are a freshman or sophomore, I predict you will change majors before you graduate
[04:39] <Kruger> hippo: buy a kindle
[04:39] <Kruger> fryguy: lol why?
[04:40] <pegon> puff, will look at that right now all I am trying to do is get my fnkeys working lol
[04:40] <ozzmosis> Barridus: yeah, cos there is no mailer installed.  mail from cron just goes to /dev/null .. into the void.
[04:40] <fryguy> Kruger: just a prediction
[04:40] <Kruger> fryguy: thats mean lol
[04:40] <puff> pegon, fryguy, this seems to give a concise overview of what pegon's trying to do: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/45021
[04:40] <Kruger> fryguy: and I'm a junior and I'm doing fine.  I'm starting an intership soon in fact
[04:40] <Kruger> fryguy: we don't use linux
[04:40] <hippo> Kruger, what do you mean? I have many pdf files, I want to put them into a single pdf, can I?
[04:40] <Barridus> ozzmosis, think there's an advantage to installing a mailer?
[04:40] <Kruger> I've never used linux actually
[04:41] <ozzmosis> Barridus: http://neoaddict.wordpress.com/2006/11/18/get-crontab-output-in-ubuntu-via-e-mail/
[04:41] <Kruger> I'd say I learned quite a bit in 2 days
[04:41] <phoe6>  In xterm, I can change the size of fonts and windows by doing Control + Right Click and Selecting Huge from the VT Font menu. Can I have this setting in the .Xresources file? I am not able to find out what I should do.
[04:41] <phoe6>  Everytime I don't want to do a CTRL+RIGHT CLICK + Select Huge VT Font. I want it as my standard configuration.
[04:41] <ozzmosis> Barridus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto talks about mail too
[04:41] <fbc-mx> How do I delete my old wlan0 alias? I installed my new card and it toook wlan1. i want it to be wlan0 again. How?
[04:41] <iamtechno> Kruger, what school? If you don't mind me asking?
[04:41] <Kruger> fryguy: and also notice my determination and patience
[04:42] <ozzmosis> Barridus: wait, no it doesn't.  getting my windows mixed up.  also need more sleep apparently.
[04:42] <Kruger> we learned java first and then C.  and i've already taken the hard CS classes
[04:42] <Kruger> like discrete math and data structurs and algorithms
[04:42] <administrator> 55
[04:42] <Kruger> we use centos at our school
[04:42] <Kruger> but no one uses it
[04:42] <Kruger> because you can boot into windows
[04:42] <Barridus> ozzmosis, i hear you.  i need to stop making "muck about in linux" my late night before bed activity
[04:43] <iamtechno> Kruger, discrete is fun. I'm in it now.
[04:43] <Kruger> I enjoyed it
[04:43] <genii> !ot Kruger and fryguy
[04:43] <SeaPhor> fryguy, i'd welcome your input on an evaluation of this "How-To" on compiling
[04:43] <genii> !ot|  Kruger and fryguy
[04:43] <SnowKitty> im tryying 8.04 first, hope it works out
[04:43] <SeaPhor> fryguy, http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=52
[04:43] <SnowKitty> if i like it i might just put it on my secondary hdd in the desktop
[04:43] <fryguy> pegon: wget http://packages.kirya.net/debian/pool/main/o/omnibook/omnibook-source_2.20070211+svn20090227-1_all.deb; dpkg -i omnibook*.deb ; sudo module-assistant build omnibook ; sudo module-assistant install omnibook; sudo modprobe omnibook; sudo -i ; echo omnibook >> /etc/modules
[04:43] <fryguy> pegon: doesn't work?
[04:43] <fryguy> SeaPhor: what?
[04:44] <fryguy> SeaPhor: why are you asking me?
[04:44] <iamtechno> Kruger: what school are you at?
[04:44] <ozzmosis> Barridus: I'm off (sadly not for more sleep) .. good luck with cron :)  late night is the best time for mucking around in linux.  except when something breaks and you can't fix it.  then you can't sleep wondering about it.  then a few days later you wonder why it was so important.  seeya :)
[04:44] <genii> !ot | iamtechno
[04:44] <Kasm279> is there a way to kill a fullscreen app? (is there a keyboard shortcut to Syayem Monitor)
[04:44] <slango> so I definitely have to do something to make the mouse pair with my computer on startup
[04:44] <Kasm279> ?
[04:44] <pegon> fryguy, will try exactly what you put right now and tell you where and what exactly it says if fail k
[04:44] <Barridus> ozzmosis, thanks for the help man :)  gonna try the mail thing
[04:44] <iamtechno> genii, ty genii
[04:44] <fryguy> pegon: those are the directions from the first google link..
[04:46] <genii> iamtechno: You're welcome. The topic is beginning to stray from support issues, so it's better for people who just wish to chat to travel instead to the offtopic channel, etc.
[04:46] <Kasm279> any ideas?
[04:46] <Kasm279> ...
[04:46] <Kasm279> BLARGH
[04:47] <fryguy> Kasm279: kill it by pid in a terminal
[04:47] <Kasm279> fryguy: how?
[04:47] <fryguy> Kasm279: kill is a command
[04:47] <fryguy> pass it the pid of the program you want to kill
[04:47] <Kasm279> i know
[04:47] <mannytu> !kill
[04:47] <fryguy> or run xkill and click on the window you want to kill
[04:47] <rawDawg`> how do i view the nicklist in xchat
[04:48] <genii> Kasm279: You do something like: ps aux | grep problemmatic-app-name-here      Then note the first number, which is it's pid. Then do like: sudo kill ####   where #### is that pid
[04:48] <Kasm279> fryguy: i cant get anything, the app im trying to kill is fulscreened
[04:48] <fryguy> Kasm279: alt-f2
[04:49] <genii> Kasm279: ctrl-alt-f2   for terminal.  alt-f7   or ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to gui
[04:49] <RHorse> Kasm279 drop to vt by ctl alt f2
[04:49] <RHorse> and back with alt ctl f7
[04:49]  * genii feeds RHorse more coffee
[04:50] <Kasm279> i just pulled the plug -_-
[04:50] <Kasm279> i cant get a PID for it
[04:50] <RHorse> Kasm279 try the  shortct alt-4
[04:50] <Kasm279> O_O
[04:50] <Kasm279> i did
[04:51] <RHorse> Kasm279 ps -A |less
[04:51] <Kasm279> oh, im on xubuntu if that helps
[04:51] <Kasm279> RHorse: its gone now
[04:51] <genii> Kasm279: ctrl-alt-esc   may give you an X which if you place it on the troublesome app you can click to kill
[04:51] <RHorse> Kasm279 the window that ate Chicago
[04:52] <Kasm279> (i have plenty of power for kubuntu even, but why do i need the slowness of KDE or GNOME?)
[04:52] <fryguy> i wonder why people use all sorts of non-posix arguments to ps
[04:52] <Kasm279> RHorse: huh?
[04:52] <chowder> is the nautilus-cd burner package actually the CD/DVD creator?
[04:52] <chowder> *nautilus-cd-burner
[04:52] <rawDawg`> anyway to get a nicklist for xchat like mIRC?
[04:53] <Kasm279> xchat fails
[04:53] <Kasm279> get Konversation
[04:53] <Barridus> xchat-gnome fails, xchat regular is good
[04:53]  * fryguy prefers cli for irc
[04:53] <Kasm279> huh?
[04:53] <rawDawg`> yeah im using gnome
[04:53]  * fryguy prefers cli for everything
[04:53] <rawDawg`> i just installed from add/remove...
[04:54] <Kasm279> Xfce is better than GNOE
[04:54] <Kasm279> GNOME*
[04:54] <rawDawg`> i havent really figured out how to install software
[04:54] <Barridus> rawDawg, throw xchat-gnome out.  get plain xchat.  trust me.
[04:54] <RHorse> Kasm279 and fluxbox is better than  xfce
[04:54] <rawDawg`> Barridus: how can i get that?
[04:54] <iamtechno> !best | Kasm279
[04:54] <fryguy> and xmonad is better than everything
[04:55] <iamtechno> !best | fryguy
[04:55] <rawDawg`> i just installed ubuntu - first time ever using
[04:55] <Barridus> rawDawg, with synaptic, or from terminal with "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[04:55] <Kasm279> fluxbox is good, but blah
[04:55] <fryguy> iamtechno: notice it says "usually"
[04:55] <Tasbuntu> Hello! I have a A70 Pentium 4 Toshiba laptop that I just installed Jaunty on. It isnt booting up very well but the live CD worked fine so I figure I can get it to work; but I realized there is no documentation for it. There's documentation for the A70 from Breezy to Gutsy, but no word on Jaunty. So, my question- how do I set up a documentation page for it?
[04:55] <rawDawg`> should i remove this first?
[04:55] <RHorse> Kasm279 blah is good at my age lol!
[04:56] <Kasm279> XD
[04:56] <lanoxx-> does anyone know how to reinstall scim?
[04:56] <RHorse> more blah less bling
[04:56] <pegon> fryguy, okay I got to sudo module-assistant install omnibook....and I got this .... "Package omnibook-source was not built successfully, see /var/cache/modass/omnibook-source*buildlog* for details!" and I went to that place and there is no log file.
[04:56] <iamtechno> fryguy, It also says its up to you to choose not have someone else choose for you.
[04:56] <fryguy> iamtechno: yep
[04:56] <iamtechno> !ot | RHorse
[04:57] <fryguy> pegon: so?
[04:57] <PhreddyPfander> Has anyone ever had an ssd (Solid State Drive) fail on them?
[04:57] <Barridus> rawDawg, looks a lot like mirc, doesn't it?  http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i44/solidus0079/snapshot2.png
[04:57] <fryguy> pegon: follow the rest of the commands I gave you?
[04:57] <pegon> fryguy, I can't it won't install though it says its not built right and then the modeprob part doesn't work
[04:57] <RHorse> thank you! I was waiting all day for  that. Thanks again, iamtechno
[04:57] <rawDawg> yeah thats what i want
[04:57] <fryguy> pegon: did you install build-essential
[04:58] <iamtechno> RHorse, the good book says 'do unto others as others do unto you'
[04:58] <pegon> fryguy, i just checked thats already installed
[04:58] <sagaci> if i sudo into root, is there a way of getting back into regular mode without exiting and re-entering a terminal
[04:58] <RHorse> hehe
[04:58] <fryguy> sagaci: just type exit
[04:58] <Barridus> rawDawg, i don't think it matters if you remove xchat-gnome first
[04:58] <Aqa> I have forgotten for what i came to ask :-s
[04:58] <kalcifur>  hello all, i have a question (of course i have a question, why else would i be here, heh) I have ubuntu 9.04, i believe there is a conflict somewhere. not all my programs are using the sound server so instead they use another sound server or go to the dsp directly, cutting off all other audio. how do i go about verifying everything is using (pulse audio i guess in my case) ? and/or anything else i can check?
[04:59] <Barridus> rawDawg, might as well hang onto it so you can get back here if something goes wrong for some unforseen reason
[04:59] <rawDawg> there i am
[04:59] <fryguy> kalcifur: one option is to uninstall pulseaudio and go back to using esd, which generally works better
[04:59] <rawDawg> i have ubuntu running in VMWare
[04:59] <mike_> WHATS UP
[04:59] <kwtm> SUCCESS!  Thank you to nickrud and fryguy for all your patience.  Found the problem with grub.
[04:59] <kalcifur> if i uninstall pulseaudio, is it easy to configure the system to use the EDS?
[04:59] <rawDawg> i just figure out ow to install VMWare tools
[04:59] <rawDawg> :D
[04:59] <kalcifur> esd
[04:59] <kalcifur> hehe
[05:00] <fryguy> kalcifur: yes
[05:00] <mike_> hey can some one help me
[05:00] <fryguy> !ask | mike_
[05:00] <Barridus> kalcifur, or you can simply disable pulseaudio
[05:00] <nickrud> kwtm, what was it?
[05:00] <kwtm> bye all.  I will post my success in Ubuntu Forums so others won't have to repeat my errors.
[05:00] <kalcifur> fryguy:is esd generally considered more stable? or do more people have problems with pulseaudio?
[05:00] <rawDawg`> Barridus, this is alot better
[05:00] <kalcifur> thanks, ill give a whirl.
[05:01] <fryguy> kalcifur: seems like a lot of people have a lot of problems with pulseaudio, whereas almost nobody has problems with esd
[05:01] <Barridus> rawDawg, yeah i thought you'd like it :D
[05:01] <kwtm> nickrud: I put my main partition at the end of my 1.5TB drive.  On manually using grub, it complained that the cylinder was too far out for BIOS to handle.
[05:01] <ankurwidguitar> Hi all! I am not able to install interpid inside windows
[05:01] <nickrud> ah
[05:01] <kwtm> nickrud: so I just put the main partition at the beginning of the drive, and everything went smoothly.
[05:01] <kalcifur> i think that will be a good route, ill remove pulse, and make sure ESD is installed.
[05:01] <iamtechno> kalcifur, I've been having issues with pulseaudio
[05:01] <Barridus> kalcifur, yeah pulseaudio can be "flaky" a lot of the time
[05:01] <kwtm> nickrud: It would be nice for the installer to pass on these messages so I don'
[05:01] <kwtm> nickrud: don't have to guess at what the problem was.  Geez, man!
[05:01] <kalcifur> ah good to have choice, hehe
[05:01] <mike_> i am trying to uninstall flash and idk its my first time using linux
[05:02] <nickrud> agree on installer (poor messages are the only complaint I have) and good to know about the bios limit
[05:02] <bacon000> On a clean install of 8.04, updating my system fails with an error from scrollkeeper when setting up totem.  I see lots of similar bug reports on bugs.launchpad.net.  This must be a known issue.  Any ideas?
[05:02] <Barridus> kalcifur, i run plain ALSA on my other machine (which is not here), but pulseaudio seems ok here
[05:02] <kalcifur> hm when i go to remove pulseaudio.. it says it needs to remove all of ubuntu-desktop..
[05:02] <billybigrigger> anyone here know the dimensions of a favicon?
[05:02] <billybigrigger> off by hand?
[05:02] <iamtechno> billybigrigger, 32X32
[05:02] <kalcifur> i know from prior experience.. that is bad. lol
[05:02] <billybigrigger> iamtechno::: roger, thanks
[05:02] <fryguy> kalcifur: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[05:03] <Goffroth> Hey does anyone know if it is possible to run consoles on multiple monitors?
[05:03] <iamtechno> billybigrigger, 10-4
[05:03] <billybigrigger> iamtechno::: i though 16x16 but when fired up in gimp 16x16 palette seems way to small :P
[05:03] <kalcifur> oh yea, so removal of that doesnt take away anything else.
[05:03] <kalcifur> its just a meta package to ensure you have all the latest dependancies right?
[05:03] <Barridus> kalcifur you an simply disable pulse without removing it
[05:03] <mike_> i cant
[05:03] <iamtechno> billybigrigger, you could bould check at wikipedia
[05:03] <RHorse> ehelp
[05:03] <billybigrigger> iamtechno::: i trust ya :P
[05:04] <kalcifur> actually i think ill install ESD and just switch the preferences. and ensure any program i use for audio points to ESD
[05:04] <sylvanus_> hello all
[05:04] <iamtechno> billybigrigger,  quote from wikipedia. Additionally, such icon files should be either 16×16 or 32x32 pixels in size, and either 8-bit or 24-bit in color depth. (Note that GIF files have a limited, 256 color palette entries)
[05:04] <ankurwidguitar> I have install Interpid using Wubi. But when I reboot I get 'please wait... loading'.  I waited for around 20 minutes. Then I hit restart. Then again I got Ubuntu loading picture but the same happened. I never got login screen. What to do?
[05:05] <sylvanus_> anyone here in Glen Burnie?
[05:05] <wired22> Could anyone help me? Firefox freezes when trying to watch a flash video
[05:06] <Barridus> kalcifur, if you want to disable it, create a blank file named .pulse_a11y_nostart  and then edit /etc/pulse/client.conf and change "autospawn = yes" to "autostart = no".  you'll be running regular alsa then after reboot
[05:06] <grkblood13> any1 know a prog that you can load multiple sound effects into an play them when you want to
[05:06] <Barridus> (those are 1's in a11y, not L)
[05:06] <Barridus> heh, ones.
[05:06] <sylvanus_> not sure wired I'm not that smart
[05:07] <dsdeiz> where do you get those guides Barridus ? :S
[05:07] <wired22> alright, anyone else?
[05:07] <Goffroth> wired i would say that it would probably be a conflict with the flash plugin
[05:07] <sylvanus_> any gay men over 21 in here?
[05:07] <Barridus> dsdeiz, what to disable pulse?  just something i picked up somewhere when i was beta testing jaunty a couple months ago
[05:08] <RedSocrates> !ot | sylvanus_
[05:08] <sylvanus_> sorry
[05:08] <wired22> it was working fine until I upgraded to 8.10 today
[05:08] <dsdeiz> oh kewl.. i was just wondering how you guys come up with those guides like create a file named something-something.. or edit the file something-something :D
[05:08] <Goffroth> Anyone an expert with multiple monitors?
[05:08] <sylvanus_> see just like i said I'm not too smart
[05:09] <wired22> Goffroth: yeah I googled and found something like that, but couldn't find a solution
[05:09] <fryguy> !ask | Goffroth
[05:09] <Goffroth> yeah me neither
[05:09] <wired22> or rather, a solution that would be easy to follow, i'm quite new here
[05:09] <Goffroth> k
[05:10] <Goffroth> So is there a way to run multiple consoles on multiple monitors?
[05:10] <fryguy> consoles as in ttys?
[05:10] <fryguy> or run X on multiple monitors?
[05:10] <Goffroth> TTYs
[05:10] <fryguy> Goffroth: no
[05:10] <Goffroth> :(
[05:11] <Goffroth> bummer
[05:11] <rawDawg`> thank god for exclusive mode in VMware
[05:11] <Goffroth> lol
[05:11] <rawDawg`> the mouse kept getting stuck
[05:11] <wolter> hey, somebody want to read my 1.5xpage short story? I need critique
[05:11] <harpreet_> guys check out this idiot http://www.geekzone.co.nz/foobar/6229
[05:12] <RedSocrates> !ot | wolter
[05:12] <RHorse> .
[05:12] <MK13> i am trying to install komodo edit, but i was wondering how would i uninstall it?
[05:12] <sagaci> anywhere specific to talk about the future 10.XX LTS ubuntu release?
[05:13] <tekteen> MK13, how are you installing it?
[05:14] <MK13> through the unpacked .tar.gz w/ the install.sh
[05:14] <tekteen> MK13, not sure how. install.sh could do anything
[05:14] <TheNovice> !ppa
[05:14] <harpreet_> check out this idiot http://www.geekzone.co.nz/foobar/6229
[05:14] <harpreet_> check out this idiot                            http://www.geekzone.co.nz/foobar/6229
[05:14] <so0ky> I don't know if you guys remember me, but let me explain my situation
[05:15] <so0ky> I fixed a Hal.dll error on my windows partition, in the process, my bootloader got all screwed up
[05:15] <so0ky> someone on these forums helped me with Grub, and got grub installed, updated, and rebuilt
[05:15] <etzerd> hello everyone
[05:15] <etzerd> ?
[05:15] <so0ky> however, I still don't have the option to boot into Linux
[05:15] <fryguy> !hi | etzerd
[05:15] <so0ky> my question is
[05:15] <X-722> Question: Has anyone figured out a fix for the "corrupted lower memory error in 9.04?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1106037
[05:15] <so0ky> how do I make a partition Active in Fdisk?
[05:16] <etzerd> my sound system is very low, only the front speakers are playing. The rear speakers and the sub are not playing I tried everything nothing work. Any help
[05:16] <RHorse> so0ky you can try  superboot disk
[05:16] <X-722> Appears to be a kernel bug, but thus far I havent seen anything regarding a fix
[05:16] <etzerd> fryguy: what's up?
[05:16] <so0ky> what is that?
[05:17] <fryguy> etzerd: open up a mixer and adjust the volume, and make sure you are playing content that is 5.1
[05:17] <truthtaco_> how do i excecute a command in a directory
[05:17] <fryguy> TruthTaco: ./commandname
[05:17] <etzerd> fryguy: I do not see any content that are 5.1. I tried them all
[05:17] <etzerd> my sound system is realtek
[05:17] <fryguy> etzerd: then you are out of luck
[05:18] <TruthTaco> i think you gave me insuffencient information :0
[05:18] <fryguy> TruthTaco: and you asked a vague question
[05:18] <so0ky> how do I make a partition Active in fdisk?
[05:18] <Goffroth> TruthTaco: what are you trying to do?
[05:18] <etzerd> fryguy: can you tell me which one of the mixer that are 5.1?
[05:18] <Goffroth> be specific
[05:18] <TruthTaco> ive got this command here... java -jar GoGrinder.jar and im told to run the command in the directory its in
[05:18] <zonyl> What is the recommended way to backup my 8.04 server, such that I can upgrade to 9.04 and rollback if I discover a compatibility issue?  If disk image is required what software would you recommend to do this?
[05:18] <RHorse> so0ky you can try  superboot disk http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[05:19] <so0ky> okay, one second
[05:19] <fryguy> etzerd: ?? a mixer isn't 5.1 or not. you need to play 5.1 content for sound to come through the extra speakers
[05:19] <Goffroth> TruthTaco: that is what you type
[05:19] <Goffroth> TruthTaco: assuming that you have navigated to the location in the terminal
[05:19] <TruthTaco> how do i navigate to the location in the terminal
[05:19] <fryguy> TruthTaco: use cd
[05:20] <xnur> I installed ubuntu onto a usb hard drive on my lenovo laptop.  now I am unable to boot to the vista drive or wake the machine up from sleep without the usb hard drive plugged in.  how do I undo this?
[05:20] <sagaci> how do you tweak it so anything you highlight (text-wise) automagically copies it to clipboard?
[05:20] <etzerd> even if I go to youtube try to play some videos same think, the sound very low even I adjust the channel to 100%
[05:20] <fryguy> sagaci: that is the default behavior
[05:20] <X-722> no one knows eh
[05:20] <fryguy> sagaci: paste with middle click
[05:20] <Chr|s> etzerd: go to console and type alsamixer
[05:20] <etzerd> is there's a way I can download the realtek drivers?
[05:20] <fryguy> (or shift-insert)
 Sounds like the boot sector is on the USB drive?
[05:21] <sagaci> fryguy: it doesn't at the moment
[05:21] <xnur> SavageLunch: yes, it seems like the MBR was pointed to the USB drive by grub
[05:21] <Chr|s> etzerd: where it says PCM is the volume up or down?
 But you don't get a grub menu when you boot without the USB drive?
[05:22] <KoshB5_> I have an ehternet network (no internet) and a wireless (has internet). How do I configure apps to use the wireless for internet access?
[05:22] <xnur> SavageLunch: no, I get grub, error 21 if it's not plugged in
[05:23] <so0ky> RHorse, will this be able to make a partition active?
[05:23] <fryguy> KoshB5_: use rout to specify a new default route if one hasn't been specified already (this should have been taken care of for you unless you are doing weird stuff)
 But you can boot into either Windows or Linux, when the drive is plugged in
[05:23] <etzerd> chr|s: the volume is up. but one thing I see the display said: Card HDA Intel and the Chip Realtek ALC888
[05:23] <fryguy> sagaci: so if you select text on the screen, go to a textbox and hit shift-insert it doesn't paste?
[05:23] <xnur> SavageLunch: that's right
[05:24] <KoshB5_> fryguy: how do I do that? Right now, when I plug in the cat5 I loose the wireless
[05:24] <TheNovice> !tuxonice
[05:24] <RHorse> so0ky I dunno, but it maybe  useful to try it
[05:24] <Chr|s> etzerd: when you type alsamixer in console/terminal is master up? PCM?
[05:24] <sagaci> fryguy: it pastes, but not the most recent text i've selected
[05:24] <Goffroth> KoshB5_: are you running gnome
[05:24] <so0ky> do you know anything about fdisk if it doesn't fix the issue?
[05:24] <X-722> Weird. No one acknowledges it on the board, no one acknoledges it here, even though its been proven to be a kernel bug. I spose if I ignore it, it will go away.
[05:24] <X-722> :P
[05:24] <etzerd> master up pcm up
[05:24] <fryguy> sagaci: what does it paste
[05:24] <so0ky> i really think fdisk would fix the issue
[05:25] <Chr|s> etzerd: ok, and the sound is still sounding low? I'm assuming the speaker volume is turned up?
[05:25] <sagaci> a file url destination i copied to clipboard about an hour ago
[05:25] <etzerd> master up pcm up front up but there's no rear
[05:25] <RHorse> so0ky I have only used fdisk to  create new partitions  and filesysems. I don't  know all it's  options.
[05:25] <KoshB5_> fryguy: yes
[05:25] <so0ky> okay, thanks for the help so far.  Ima check this disk out
[05:25] <etzerd> yes, the speaker volume is 100%
[05:25] <so0ky> bbl if i need more help
[05:25] <mikeyfbi> the one thing i don't like about ubuntu is; after i install a file sometimes via synaptic.. i don't know where to find it!!
[05:26] <xnur> X-722: the only time I've seen that error was when I was using ubuntu 9.04 in parallels
[05:26] <mikeyfbi> anyone have any suggestions on where i can look?
[05:26] <harpreet_> mikeyfbi: what are you asking, what file are you talking about?
[05:26] <Chr|s> mikeyfbi: what did you download and install?
[05:26] <lstarnes> mikeyfbi: dpkg -L packagename
[05:26] <etzerd> the problem is there's no sound on the sub
[05:26] <Tasbuntu1> o: Hello, Ubuntu is having serious problems with whatever graphic driver it's using on my Toshiba A70-SP259. Is there anyway I can change the partition's hardware driver from my Ubuntu LiveCD?
[05:26] <xnur> X-722: did you do a memory check?
[05:26] <mikeyfbi> harpreet_, bittornado
 Huh....yeah, I'm not sure why it wouldn't let you just boot into Windows instead.
[05:26] <X-722> xnur: Im using it on a brand new Lenovo laptop - happens every single time on boot. Ran memtest for 8 hours. No errors.
[05:26] <Chr|s> etzerd: I think maybe #alsamixer can help you better they are a great group of people
[05:27] <Chr|s> mikeyfbi: it should be under Internet
[05:27] <etzerd> ok thanks for your help
[05:27] <X-722> Happening to other Lenoo users, and a few Gateway laptops as well. All have tested out their ram, and all ram has passed memtest
[05:27] <harpreet_> mikeyfbi: easy way, follow this
[05:27] <samd> mikeyfbi: usually ull find an entry for the program in the applications menu, but you can always type ALT-F2 and type the application name, or just type the application name in a terminal
[05:27] <X-722> err, Lenovo uers, rather
[05:27] <mikeyfbi> Chr|s, checked..  alt+f2 - bittornado = nothing either
[05:27] <Chr|s> etzerd: yeah, sorry i couldn't be more of help
[05:27] <etzerd> thanks
[05:27] <harpreet_> mikeyfbi: places, home, click on view, show hidden files. locate what you want
[05:27] <xnur> X-722: I'm on lenovo and I don't get that error
 I found this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/grub-error-21-after-full-install-to-usb-hard-drive/
[05:28] <X-722> Which model? I am using a Y530
[05:28] <mikeyfbi> harpreet_, nothing there
[05:28] <harpreet_> mikeyfbi: it is there
[05:28] <mikeyfbi> samd, checked all those, nothing :(
[05:28] <X-722> It seems to be only on the newer Y530s, and also a few Gateway users have reported the error.
[05:28] <xnur> X-722: I do get it in parallels though.  if you checked your memory and it looks ok, it's either something ubuntu is corrupting or it's a false positive.  either way I would just wait for a fix from the ubuntu devs
[05:28] <harpreet_> mikeyfbi: it starts with a dot
[05:28] <Chr|s> mikeyfbi: thats very odd..you sure you downloaded it and installed it?
[05:28] <mikeyfbi> harpreet_, nope.. no .bittornado
[05:28] <samd> mikeyfbi: what happens if you type the name of the program in a termianl?
[05:28] <harpreet_> mikeyfbi: what is it actually?
[05:29] <X-722> Its been proven to be a kernel bug - just wondering if it has been addressed yet
[05:29] <mikeyfbi> Chr|s, http://paste.ubuntu.com/180033/
[05:29] <harpreet_> mikeyfbi: i will install it and get back to you with proper path
[05:29] <mikeyfbi> samd, command not found... lol.
[05:30] <mikeyfbi> harpreet_, check http://paste.ubuntu.com/180033/  that is from dpkg -L bittornado
[05:30] <samd> mikeyfbi: let me install it myself, and let me find it
[05:30] <Aqa> why aria is not for xubuntu?
 But the system they're discussing there has Linux installed on another drive...I think the problem is that grub is installed on the flash drive
[05:30] <mikeyfbi> smd, harpreet_ Chr|s just wish they had a 'recently installed' list ;)
[05:31] <harpreet_> mikeyfbi: install bittornado GUI
[05:31] <xnur> SavageLunch: ah.  that looks like the problem, yes
[05:31] <mikeyfbi> maybe something for brainstorm.ubuntu
[05:31] <mikeyfbi> harpreet_, oh god.. brutal.. thx
[05:31] <Chr|s> heh
[05:31] <mikeyfbi> *blush*
[05:32] <harpreet_> mikeyfbi:  you are welcome, bittornado gui is listed right under bittornado,
[05:32] <samd> mikeyfbi: bittornado seems to be a command line application, for instructions on how to use it type man "bittorrent-downloade.bittornado"
[05:32] <mikeyfbi> harpreet_, already done ;)  i guess i assumed it would automatically include that with installing via synaptic.. user error, not OS error ;)
[05:32] <mikeyfbi> samd, just forgot bittornado gui.. thanks tho :)
[05:32] <samd> mikeyfbi: ight, no problem
[05:32] <Tasbuntu1> Uh, guys, is there anyway I can set my Ubuntu partition's graphic driver from the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[05:33] <mikeyfbi> Chr|s, thanks too ;)
[05:33] <genii> Tasbuntu1: With a livecd and a command-line, much is possible. Even that.
[05:34] <harpreet_> Tasbuntu1:  yes, type lspci or hwinfo --short
[05:34] <Tasbuntu1> o; Thank you
[05:34] <Nirrad> Hello using NVIDIA 9500 mgs. With jaunty. I can not get the changes to stay after reboot. I have tried backing and saving without merge. ut it doesnt keep changes. Any ideas?
[05:34] <Tasbuntu1> that would be for general information about the terminal, though, wouldn't it?
[05:35] <Tasbuntu1> I should mention I'm a little familiar with the terminal, I run Ubuntu on a triple boot on my normal laptop
[05:35] <genii> Tasbuntu1: lspci will identify what hardware you have. From there a correct driver might be determined
[05:35] <Tasbuntu1> Oh, allright
[05:35] <Tasbuntu1> Thank you O:
[05:35] <harpreet_> Nirrad: manually edit xconfig.org and try saving OR back up xconfig.org and delete original and then create new file and copy whole data, delete back up
[05:36] <Tasbuntu> Well, that wasn't very smart
[05:36] <Nirrad> ok ty will try. ut the setting I am trying to save is the digital vibrance , but I did not see any refference to it in the conf file.
[05:37] <harpreet_> Tasbuntu: what wasnt smart?
[05:38] <harpreet_> Nirrad: there might be a bug or hash preventing it to store permanently
[05:39] <jezi22_> anybody there?
[05:39] <jezi22_> i have question...
[05:39] <jezi22_> anyone help me.
[05:39] <glenn> Fedora is better
[05:40] <jezi22_> fedora?
[05:40] <glenn> yeah, what's the question
[05:40] <genii> !ask | jezi22_
[05:40] <jezi22_> i am using buntu
[05:40] <Nirrad> I hear you. hmm  It is weird the digital vibrance  intensifies the way i want it as soon as I click on the nvidi settings icon though.
[05:40] <harpreet_> Nirrad: you have compiz?
[05:41] <glenn> go one jezi
[05:41] <glenn> *on
[05:41] <harpreet_> jezi22_: just ask, please
[05:41] <glenn> achilles has quit, how fitting
[05:41] <sagaci> !better | glenn
[05:41] <Nirrad> no I have also disable effects. they dont jive well with wine in some games
[05:41] <glenn> I know, I was just joking
[05:42] <valde> qque onda
[05:42] <tuhis-ubu> why do I have to click my drive so that ubuntu "detects" it
[05:43] <tuhis-ubu> for example the screen is white before I open my drive first time after boot
[05:43] <genii> !mx | valde
[05:43] <genii> !es | valde
[05:43] <tuhis-ubu> because the wallpaper is loaded from there
[05:44] <jezi22_> how can i compile properly? sorry im a noob. i tried to compile python3.0 tarball and followed some instructions. but in synaptic it says broken package. what it the problem?
[05:44] <harpreet_> tuhis-ubu: what do you mean?
[05:45] <tuhis-ubu> hapreet_: the wallpaper is loaded from my other drive, the screen stays white until I open the drive for the first time
[05:45] <harpreet_> tuhis-ubu: so you saying is you have more than one drive on your system and wallpaper is loaded from the other drive and you have to click onthat drive tohave the wallpaper working?
[05:45] <tuhis-ubu> and it puts the icon to the desktop
[05:45] <tuhis-ubu> harpreet_: yea
[05:46] <harpreet_> tuhis-ubu: because, your other drive requires authorization as sudo to access files from there, its a security feature ubuntu has
[05:46] <tuhis-ubu> aha
[05:46] <tuhis-ubu> can it be overwritten?
[05:46] <harpreet_> tuhis-ubu: yes
[05:46] <tuhis-ubu> right, how is that done?
[05:46] <tuhis-ubu> :)
[05:46] <harpreet_> tuhis-ubu: when you click on the other drive, ask it to automount
[05:46] <jezi22_> question. i should install the checkinstall?
[05:46] <tuhis-ubu> okay
[05:46] <glenn> why does Grub suck with RAID arrays
[05:46] <jezi22_> or stick with the make install?
[05:47] <jezi22_> waaaa
[05:47] <AndorinKato> Hi, are we allowed to ask for help here?
[05:47] <Nirrad> you can use "pysdm" to auto mount other partitions.
[05:47] <lstarnes> AndorinKato: yes
[05:47] <harpreet_> tuhis-ubu: and you can go on system > login window >automatic logon
[05:47] <xnur> jezi22_: if you want to try to keep as much package management as possible, use checkinstall yes
[05:47] <harpreet_> tuhis-ubu: i assume you put password to connect to otherdrive when you have to click on that right?
[05:47] <jezi22_> thank xnur.
[05:48] <IamSOG> what is the software defined radio ?
[05:48] <tuhis-ubu> harpreet_: umm, no :/
[05:48] <AndorinKato> Great. How do I manage and update my drivers on Ubuntu? I experience lag when performing common tasks like switching windows or loading new pages. I think it's probably a driver issue but I don't know how to manage them; I'm relatively knew to this.
[05:48] <IamSOG> odd my pidgin doesn't auto scroll
[05:49] <harpreet_> tuhis-ubu: then you have to manually edit a file to automount your other partition as boot
[05:49] <ATI> Hello, I was here under the guise Tasbuntu practically now. I'm currently running from the Live CD of a Toshiba A70-SP259 laptop that I'm having problems with Ubuntu with. It boots fine from the live CD, but boots not at all from the actual installation of Ubuntu.
[05:49] <jezi22> if there are some broken packages what should i do?
[05:49] <tuhis-ubu> harpreet_: how do I do that?
[05:50] <harpreet_> tuhis-ubu: read here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=175761
[05:50] <ATI> The graphics card is an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP. I'd like to know how to enable the optimal drivers for this one from the live CD. Can anyone help?
[05:51] <tuhis-ubu> harpreet_: okay thx
[05:51] <harpreet_> tuhis-ubu: this is the best    .. http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2008/09/auto-mount-hard-drives-on-ubuntu.html
[05:51] <AndorinKato> Anybody?
[05:52] <sirninja> AndorinKato: type the command 'top' in the terminal and see what process has the highest usage when experience those problems
[05:52] <AndorinKato> They happen all the time, even when I don't have any high-performance applications running.
[05:53] <AndorinKato> Though the lag does get worse, of course, when I run several things at once.
[05:53] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: do this and paste the output here "lspci -nn | grep VGA"
[05:53] <jezi22> can someone give me some forum site a good one. so i can just read around. :)
[05:54] <AndorinKato> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:29c2] (rev 02)
[05:54] <eddyprobability> jezi the ubuntu forums are great
[05:54] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: hmm, seems mixed results, but you can still try -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/UxaTesting
[05:54] <ATI> :c Anyone know how to adjust Ubuntu
[05:55] <AndorinKato> I'll have a look, thanks.
[05:55] <ATI> Anyone know how to adjust Ubuntu's graphic driver?
[05:55] <ATI> From the Ubuntu live CD
[05:55] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: mine is a different chipset, but after switching to uxa, my mp3 playing no more skips when I move windows around.
[05:55] <AndorinKato> Says it's experimental, but I'll give it a try.
[05:56] <tuhis-ubu> why doesn't ubuntu play 5.1 sound, but only stereo? I use HDA Intel ALC1200(OSS) to get anysound from the machine
[05:56] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: make sure you know how to revert it if X fails to start.
[05:56] <AndorinKato> It says to just remove that text from xorg.conf.
[05:56] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: there's a lot of reports saying 904 sucks for intel graphics card.
[05:57] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: just try it and post your results at that website, either worse, mixed or better. :)
[05:57] <AndorinKato> *nod* Thank you. ^^
[05:58] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: here's another page you want to read -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance
[06:00] <ATI> ;; no one?
[06:00] <mase_work> ATI: no one what ?
[06:01] <mase_work> n/m i see your question
[06:01] <mase_work> you can alter xorg.conf
[06:01] <mase_work> and restart X
[06:01] <ATI> I'd been asking if anyone knew how to insta-Oh, kay :o How?
[06:01] <ATI> How do I go about doing that? ;o
[06:02] <mase_work> erm...what is your actual problem ?
[06:02] <ATI> Ubuntu doesnt boot up properly. It boots super slowly, gets to the login screen, and then past that it doesnt load the desktop
[06:03] <ATI> This is after it was updated, before it ran albeit slowly
[06:03] <ATI> The weird thing is it runs fine on the live CD
[06:03] <ATI> Perfectly fast and boots up without a hitch
[06:03] <AndorinKato> Okay, I gots more n00biness. I don't have the permission to edit the file. I read once about how to manage permissions in the terminal, but that was a while back.
[06:04] <AndorinKato> Should I just Google?
[06:04] <mase_work> ATI: what were the updates ? and what graphics card are you using
[06:04] <ATI> Andorin, you have to go to the directory in the terminal and do whatever you're gonna do via sudo comands
[06:04] <ATI> It's an ATI Radeon 9100 IGP
[06:04] <sirninja> AndorinKato: use 'gksudo gedit yourfilehere'
[06:04] <mase_work> AndorinKato: the command is chmod
[06:04] <mase_work> if you wanna change the perms
[06:04] <mase_work> or sudo if you just wanna edit it
[06:05] <ATI> I cant tell you the updates because my brother was on the laptop monitoring those, and I doubt he was even paying attention
[06:05] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: just "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[06:05] <ATI> They were basic Jaunty updates though, basically all it asks for thus far
[06:05] <AndorinKato> Okay, thanks.
[06:05] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: after that, you just need to logout and login again, there's no need to reboot.
[06:05] <AndorinKato> M'kay.
[06:06] <mase_work> ATI: ok, so your sure the slowness is graphics related ? i don't see how that would affect boot speed
[06:06]  * AndorinKato brbs
[06:06] <ATI> No, I'm not sure, but I can hardly find another explanation
[06:06] <ATI> It boots fine from the live CD, I said again
[06:06] <ATI> I don't think it would be hurt by the fact that the partition is only 25 GB either, would it?
[06:07] <ATI> Unless, hang on. I have 1.5 GB of RAM here, and the Linux swap is something like 1 GB. Could that be the reason it works wrong?
[06:08] <whatvn> ATI: maybe no
[06:08] <AndorinKato> I think my lag is reduced... w00t.
[06:09] <ATI> maybe no?
[06:09] <whatvn> ATI: I mean no
[06:09] <ra21vi> how can i see the list of all the IRC channels in Freenode?
[06:09] <ATI> oh, kay
[06:09] <AndorinKato> Yeah, Songbird is for sure less laggy... thanks for the help!
[06:09] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: try it for a while, for me, its hard to judge also but it FELT like it have improved.
[06:10] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: remember to post your results there so others can see. :)
[06:10] <AndorinKato> It does certainly seem a bit better.
[06:10] <AndorinKato> Er... yes, I shall, but since I forgot to bookmark before logging out, can you re-link me to that particular page?
[06:11] <ykphuah> AndorinKato: here you go -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/UxaTesting
[06:11] <zer0rez> anyone know how to set gnome terminal 80x43 as a default?
[06:11] <AndorinKato> Thank you.
[06:12] <ykphuah> what's great about songbird?
[06:12] <ykphuah> I am currently using rhtymbox
[06:13] <AndorinKato> With Songbird I got multimedia keys and iPod support working via add-ons. It's based off of Firefox's code.
[06:13] <ykphuah> hmm, rhythmbox supports ipod too.
[06:15] <cah_batang> pendi
[06:16] <AndorinKato> Rhythmbox doesn't like my .mp3s.
[06:16] <AndorinKato> I'd convert my collection to .ogg except my 2nd gen Nano doesn't work with them.
[06:16] <sirninja> have you done 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restrictred-extras'?
[06:17] <AndorinKato> Nope. What's that get for me?
[06:17] <sirninja> the codecs you need
[06:18] <AndorinKato> Well, I already grabbed some package that lets me play .mp3s, so there's no trouble there. Presumably it's why they work on Songbird.
[06:19] <AndorinKato> Should I get that package anyway?
[06:20] <sirninja> it won't do anything bad if you already have, go ahead I guess
[06:20] <sirninja> songbird might use something different, I really don't know
[06:21] <AndorinKato> *shrug* For me, the Ubuntu newbie, the mentality is "Just so long as it works." :P
[06:22] <tuhis-ubu> I managed to change my alsamixer, does it save the settings automagically?
[06:22] <tuhis-ubu> or do I have to do something manually so that it will work allways?
[06:22] <tuhis-ubu> all 5.1 chs where muted
[06:22] <sirninja> it should save them
[06:22] <tuhis-ubu> okay good
[06:22] <tuhis-ubu> ukkapekka: moi :)
[06:23] <jezi22> what is the difference between apt-file and auto-apt?
[06:25] <ziroday> jezi22: auto-apt appears to have more features, but have never used either
[06:25] <jezi22> why never used?
[06:25] <atilathehun> \join debian-es
[06:25] <atilathehun> sorry
[06:25] <ziroday> jezi22: because I have never had a need for either?
[06:26] <jezi22> okay. i just installed ubuntu yesterday from windows
[06:26] <jezi22> and i am havin a headache right now.
[06:26] <ziroday> jezi22: okay, what are you trying to do?
[06:26] <jezi22> trying to install python
[06:26] <jezi22> compiling it
[06:27] <pegon> Has anyone gotten Steam to work in Ubuntu Jaunty by some chance?
[06:27] <ziroday> jezi22: why? Its in the repo's
[06:27] <ziroday> pegon: I'm sure its been done, what
[06:27] <jezi22> wat repo's?
[06:27] <ziroday> pegon: I'm sure its been done, what's not working? (also #winehq is great)
[06:27] <jezi22> LOL!
[06:27] <ziroday> jezi22: in a terminal do sudo apt-get install python
[06:28] <sirninja> doesn't python come preinstalled anyway?
[06:28] <pegon> ziroday, reason I ask is I can't get mine to install right....if I use the new version it says unable to load steam.dll...and if I use and old version it says "Cannot contact the steam Network"
[06:28] <jezi22> i have another question
[06:28] <ziroday> jezi22: please ask :)
[06:28] <ziroday> pegon: hmm #winehq is probably the best place to ask
[06:29] <jezi22> what is the build?
[06:29] <pegon> ziroday, i tried there earlier they don't help at all there
[06:29] <jezi22> i saw the readme of python
[06:29] <ziroday> pegon: okay http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1145504 might be able to help
[06:29] <jezi22> and it said build. it is same with install?
[06:29] <ziroday> jezi22: build as in version?
[06:29] <srid> do you know guys know of a way to monitor, say, ~/.torrents .. and download torrents automatically?
[06:29] <sirninja> I believe deluge has that ability
[06:29] <ziroday> srid: I do believe deluge can do that
[06:30] <ziroday> sirninja: jinx :)
[06:30] <mase_work> srid: there is some software which will do that for torrents as part of the application, but you can add inotify hooks if you want the actual API
[06:30] <jezi22> yes
[06:30] <jezi22> buwhat is your own definition of build?
[06:30] <jezi22> what*
[06:30] <git__> what is swfdec 0.6.0?
[06:30] <ziroday> jezi22: its version 2.6.2
[06:30] <git__> i thought adobe has a flash player for linux?
[06:31] <ziroday> git__: its an open source flash player
[06:31] <jezi22> i am trying to install python 3
[06:31] <arbiter26> Is there a way to get gnome-nm to not probe a particular device?
[06:31] <git__> how do i replace it with the adobe flash player for linux?
[06:31] <ziroday> jezi22: then you need to install the python3 package :)
[06:31] <git__> i'm using firefox
[06:31] <Barridus> does anyone have a link to the "ubuntu font" in truetype format?
[06:31] <ziroday> git__: install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:32] <git__> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree?
[06:32] <jezi22> which is better sudo make install or sudo checkinstall?
[06:32] <whatvn> cannot compare
[06:32] <ziroday> git__: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, or with synaptic
[06:32] <ziroday> jezi22: what are you compiling from source?
[06:33] <jezi22> yes from source
[06:33] <ziroday> jezi22: are you compiling python 3.x from source?
[06:33] <jezi22> yes. source tarball
[06:33] <ziroday> jezi22: there are packages in the repo's. Install python3
[06:33] <jezi22> ill just type
[06:34] <jezi22> sudo get-apt install python3?
[06:34] <ziroday> jezi22: that's the best way to install programs
[06:34] <ziroday> jezi22: yep
[06:34] <jezi22> ow..
[06:34] <whatvn> apt-get
[06:34] <jezi22> hehe
[06:34] <jezi22> yes sorry..   Thanks DUDE!
[06:37] <ziroday> !repo | jezi22
[06:37] <ziroday> git__: have fun!
[06:37] <mase_work> jezi22: all of the ubuntu repositories are handled by MOTU or ubuntu community members
[06:37] <git__> ziroday, how do i save flash movie now?  I was able to with swfdec
[06:38] <jezi22> !repo
[06:38] <whatvn> git_: flashget
[06:38] <jezi22> woah!, thanks!
[06:38] <tonsofpcs> i now have gnome cpufreq scaling monitor working after manually changing scalings via echo writes to the sysfs... now i need to figure out how to have it control "both" cpus at once in a ht-style system [one processor presents as two].  any ideas?
[06:38] <pegon> ziroday, I tried that same problem
[06:38] <jezi22> very helpful people out here.
[06:39] <ziroday> jezi22: Ubuntu is unlike windows, it uses a centralised install system. That means that you get all your software from one place (the repositories) and they can be trusted. When the package gets updated it gets pushed to the repo and you can update it. So everything in your system installed from the ubuntu repo's is up to date (unlike windows)
[06:39] <ziroday> jezi22: does that make sense?
[06:39] <ziroday> pegon: then I have no idea sorry
[06:39] <jezi22> what makes sense?
[06:39] <ziroday> jezi22: what I just said about repo's and centralised install systems :)
[06:40] <Gautam> do ubuntu has any  word dictionary ?
[06:40] <jezi22> yes..
[06:40] <jezi22> very very useful..
[06:40] <ziroday> Gautam: aspell?
[06:40] <tuhis-ubu> where do games save db and such? :P
[06:40] <Gautam> ziroday : aspell ?
[06:40] <braceyj> hello all
[06:40] <ziroday> jezi22: great! So when you want to install something, you install it through Synaptic or apt-get, and it fetches it from the repo's
[06:40] <Gautam> ziroday : what do you mean
[06:41] <Gautam> ziroday : dictionary like i used wordweb in window
[06:41] <ziroday> Gautam: apologies, you application gnome-dictionary is what you want
[06:41] <javyn> hey, my disk usage analyzer seems to be reporting i am missing 8 gigs of space.  what would i type in the console to reconfigure it?
[06:41] <javyn> had this problem before but forgot the command :/
[06:41] <braceyj> just started using ubuntu after not using linux at all for about 6 years, what a heck of an improvement :)
[06:42] <ziroday> tuhis-ubu: what type of db? Do you mean configuration settings?
[06:42] <Gautam> ziroday : then how can i enable it...do you know any command which can be execute from terminal
[06:42] <ziroday> Gautam: gnome-dictionary
[06:42] <jezi22> yes yes.. thanks.. i thought i should always compile.. XD
[06:42] <FLJohn> Ok.  My system just locked up while I was surfing the internet.  I have a Photo of the screen (looks like Bios)  anyone interested in seeing it?
[06:42] <tuhis-ubu> ziroday: well level files for example
[06:42] <FLJohn> http://www.glorystock.com/error.jpg
[06:42] <tuhis-ubu> and other
[06:43] <RedSocrates> FLJohn: I'm interested
[06:43] <ziroday> tuhis-ubu: hmm, thats complicated. The actual install files are scattered across your system. But you can get the source files with a quick apt-get source <packagename>
[06:43] <Wixicy> When I am trying to connect to a wireless network, the network-manager says that the device in unmanaged. Could anyone help me?
[06:43] <ziroday> FLJohn: it appears to be starting up
[06:43] <RHorse> Wixicy type iwconfig in terminal
[06:43] <FLJohn> Ziro it locked in that screen
[06:44] <Wixicy> RHorse, yes what then?
[06:44] <newbie09> hello
[06:44] <neil_d> I have a pendrive in a computer, but I can't seem to mount it :(  lsusb shows "Bus 005 Device 003: ID 03f0:3217 Hewlett-Packard"  what can I do to fix this.
[06:44] <newbie09> can anyone help me with an ubuntu issue
[06:44] <FLJohn> Shoot Newbie
[06:44] <EHondaCivic> anyone up to helping me get my laptop's mic to work right? it's just about the only thing that's not working. on a vaio vgn-fw series and need it for skype
[06:44] <ziroday> FLJohn: okay, is this from the live cd?
[06:44] <newbie09> ok
[06:44] <Wixicy> RHorse, mode is managed
[06:44] <ziroday> neil_d: does it appear in sudo fdisk -l ?
[06:44] <FLJohn> Ziro the CD is not in the computer
[06:44] <newbie09> i downloaded
[06:44] <RHorse> !pastebin | Wixicy
[06:44] <newbie09> ubuntu 9.04 from wubi
[06:45] <newbie09> but i can;t seem to get on my security wireless connection
[06:45] <ziroday> FLJohn: eh? So is this an installed system?
[06:45] <newbie09> even though the wireless manager detects it
[06:45] <YeTr2_> So, when is this slowness issue with FF .10 thing going to get worked out?
[06:45] <jezi22> it is version 2.6 can i upgrade it?
[06:45] <newbie09> when i enter in the password it keeps prompting me for one
[06:45] <neil_d> ziroday: it doesn't seem to only /dev/sda etc. (HDD)
[06:45] <newbie09> but does not connect
[06:45] <FLJohn> ziroday: Yes this is Ubuntu 8.04 installed on my Solid state Drive yesterday
[06:45] <javyn> had this problem before but forgot the command :/
[06:45] <ziroday> neil_d: unplug it and replug it in and then pastebin the output of dmesg
[06:45] <RHorse> newbie09 pastebin iwconfig results
[06:45] <javyn> hey, my disk usage analyzer seems to be reporting i am missing 8 gigs of space.  what would i type in the console to reconfigure it?
[06:45] <newbie09> fljohn can u help?
[06:45] <Wixicy> RHorse : http://paste.ubuntu.com/180065/
[06:46] <ziroday> FLJohn: okay, and before it was working fine?
[06:46] <FLJohn> No newbie
[06:46] <newbie09> ok
[06:46] <mase_work> javyn: you would need to  resize your partition. You can list your partitions with fdisk
[06:46] <newbie09> does anyone know how to connect to wireless network in ubuntu
[06:46] <jezi22> last question how can i uninstall applications?
[06:46] <RHorse> Wixicy dude, you know the essid of your router?
[06:46] <newbie09> i can connect wired
[06:46] <mase_work> javyn: be very careful though, you should use a dedicated tool to resize the partition
[06:46] <newbie09> but not to a secure wireless connection
[06:46] <EHondaCivic> jezi you can add and remove with package manager
[06:46] <Gnea> jezi22: just open synaptic and right-click on what you want to remove and tell it to, then apply
[06:47] <Wixicy> RHorse, yes
[06:47] <ziroday> jezi22: by going to Synaptic, finding it and removing it or in the terminal sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[06:47] <mase_work> jezi22: use synaptic or apt-get remove
[06:47] <neil_d> ziroday: I can't... I am not physically at the computer.  Connected via ssh and vncviewer.
[06:47] <jezi22> okay thanks
[06:47] <k0rnz> t
[06:47] <newbie09> does ubuntu support secure wireless connections?
[06:47] <sirninja> newbie09: yes
[06:47] <FLJohn> ziroday: It was working fine up until.  Now it seems to be ok again.  Like I said I am hoping this is just a bugger in the system
[06:47] <newbie09> well
[06:47] <mase_work> newbie09: absolutely
[06:47] <ziroday> neil_d: err right. then how did you plug said thumbdrive in?
[06:47] <newbie09> how can i connect
[06:47] <ziroday> FLJohn: great
[06:47] <newbie09> it doesn;t allow me to connect
[06:47] <newbie09> but i can connect when using Vista
[06:47] <neil_d> ziroday: someone else did.
[06:47] <mase_work> newbie09: can you be more specific
[06:48] <newbie09> ok
[06:48] <RHorse> Wixicy wep? or wpa
[06:48] <newbie09> i installed ubuntu 9.04 via Wubi installer
[06:48] <newbie09> so i have both Vista and Ubuntu
[06:48] <mase_work> about the network i meant
[06:48] <newbie09> ok sorry
[06:48] <newbie09> its a secured wireless network
[06:48] <newbie09> with wep password
[06:48] <ziroday> neil_d: okay, can I have your dmesg output anyway please (and also you're sure they plugged it in?)
[06:48] <mase_work> how are you trying to connect
[06:48] <newbie09> password/key
[06:48] <EHondaCivic> anyone up to helping me get my laptop's mic to work right? it's just about the only thing that's not working. on a vaio vgn-fw series and need it for skype (fiancee is out of the country and its the only way i can talk to her!)
[06:49] <mase_work> newbie09: ok so you are going to network manager and just selecting the AP ?
[06:49] <RHorse> newbie09 you know the essid?
[06:49] <javyn> mase_work:  thanks...but i have had this prob before.  there was a console command i typed to re-scan or configure or whatever, but it essentially enabled the disk usage analyzer to accurately report my memory
[06:49] <newbie09> wep 128-bit
[06:49] <javyn> it started with an f, but i just dont remember it
[06:49] <FLJohn> thanks gang
[06:49] <newbie09> well when i go to the network manager
[06:49] <ziroday> EHondaCivic: I can try, can you pastebin the output of lspci please :)
[06:49] <newbie09> i do see my wireless network there
[06:49] <newbie09> so i click on it
[06:49] <RHorse> newbie09 bring up a  terminal
[06:50] <newbie09> iok
[06:50] <Wixicy> RHorse, wep
[06:50] <newbie09> ok
[06:50] <RHorse> Wixicy ok
[06:50] <newbie09> i am on Asus A8S series
[06:50] <Wixicy> RHorse, should i just add network info by ifconfig down
[06:50] <newbie09> my router is linksys
[06:51] <RHorse> Wixicy type sudo iwconfig eth1 essid [ur_essid] mode managed key<PHONE_NUMBER>
[06:51] <newbie09> my wireless is intel pro/wireless 4965 AG
[06:51] <Wixicy> RHorse, if there is no key?
[06:51] <newbie09> when i enter the key
[06:51] <newbie09> it tries to connect and after a minute
[06:51] <RHorse> Wixicy you said wep
[06:52] <Wixicy> RHorse, yes, but if there isn't any?
[06:52] <newbie09> it prompts me for a key but in the place of a key is this weird string
[06:52] <RHorse> then you can  forget the key arg
[06:52] <newbie09> ok but why doesn;t it connect
[06:52] <Wixicy> RHorse, alright ill try that
[06:52] <newbie09> it detects the wireless connection
[06:52] <RHorse> newbie09 bring up a terminal
[06:52] <newbie09> ok
[06:52] <newbie09> what do i do in the terminal
[06:53] <RHorse> type  iwconfig and pastebin  results
[06:53] <RHorse> Wixicy done?
[06:53] <newbie09> what do i look for
[06:53] <jezi22> thanks everyone got yo go
[06:53] <RHorse> !pastebin
[06:54] <newbie09> ya but i am not on ubuntu right now
[06:54] <newbie09> cause i can not connect
[06:54] <newbie09> i am using Vista ...
[06:54] <newbie09> can u tell me what i need to do
[06:54] <OSBT> windows7
[06:54] <newbie09> to connect
[06:54] <FloodBot2> newbie09: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:54] <neil_d> ziroday: its plugged in it show in the 'Places' menu.
[06:54] <Wixicy> RHorse, http://paste.ubuntu.com/180071/
[06:55] <newbie09> RHorse
[06:55] <newbie09> can u tell me what i need to do??
[06:56] <newbie09> does anyone know what i can do
[06:56] <newbie09> to get my secure wireless connected in ubuntu
[06:56] <EHondaCivic> newb: when you get into your desktop in ubuntu, do you get a list of networks?
[06:56] <newbie09> yes
[06:56] <newbie09> including my own
[06:56] <EHondaCivic> and what happens when you try to connect
[06:57] <newbie09> it tries to connect
[06:57] <RHorse> Wixicy you forgot eth1
[06:57] <Wixicy> RHorse, oh lol
[06:57] <RHorse> Wixicy type sudo iwconfig eth1 essid [ur_essid] mode managed key<PHONE_NUMBER>
[06:57] <RHorse> newbie09 pastebin iwconfig results
[06:59] <neil_d> ziroday: here is the /var/log/dmesg file
[07:01] <RHorse> Wixicy you still there?
[07:02] <Guest35444> no talking?
[07:03] <windp> 视觉效果不能更改啊
[07:03] <windp> 下不了驱动
[07:03] <windp> 有中国人吗？
[07:04] <EHondaCivic> anyone up to helping me get my laptop's mic to work right? it's just about the only thing that's not working. on a vaio vgn-fw series and need it for skype (fiancee is out of the country and its the only way i can talk to her!) -- PM me please
[07:04] <ykphuah> 马来西亚人就有。
[07:04] <windp> 终于有会汉语的了
[07:04] <ykphuah> EHondaCivic: have you unmuted it?
[07:05] <neil_d> ziroday: do you still want to look at the /var/log/dmesg
[07:05] <windp> my god
[07:05] <windp> what are you saying
[07:07] <PMT_> World, I'm running 9.04 x86_64. I've recently reinstalled due to a hard drive crash, and now manually setting a CPU speed no longer works from the gnome applet. It silently fails, as far as I can tell.
[07:08] <PMT_> This was working pre-clean-reinstall, and CPU scaling happens ondemand at present, so it defaults to the lowest and clocks up sometimes...but sometimes I don't want that.
[07:09] <athousandtimesic> hi i just started using xchat and registered as a user yesterday, someone can tell me how do i log in? I cannot find a place to log in in the menu
[07:10] <sirninja> login to the irc server?
[07:10] <RHorse> athousandtimesic "/msg nickserv identify passwd"
[07:10] <cgkades> athousandtimesic, do /msg nickserv identify [password]
[07:10] <athousandtimesic> hi sirninja, yes
[07:11] <athousandtimesic> i got "Invalid password for athousandtimesic."
[07:11] <cgkades> then you messed up
[07:11] <cgkades> :)
[07:11] <athousandtimesic> haha
[07:11] <cgkades> make sure you are useing the password you registerd with
[07:11] <cgkades> did you get an email conformation?
[07:11] <athousandtimesic> yes
[07:11] <athousandtimesic> it generates a default password for me
[07:12] <ayo> i specify the -L/usr/lib for -lssl, but /usr/bin/ld still says "cannot find -lssl", why
[07:12] <athousandtimesic> is there a way to get my password by email
[07:13] <RHorse> athousandtimesic there is kluge for boneheadedness
[07:13] <cgkades> you might be able to /msg nickserv help
[07:14] <ykphuah> ayo: what's the full command that you use?
[07:14] <RHorse> Wixicy you die?
[07:14] <ayo> ykphuah: gcc -static -o wpa_supplicant config.o ...  main.o drivers.o driver_wext.o -L/usr/lib -lssl -ldl
[07:15] <ayo> ykphuah: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl
[07:16] <PMT_> ayo: that's a reasonably bad thing. you would like to install libssl-dev
[07:16] <PMT_> also libssl, but i'm surprised if you lack that.
[07:17] <binarymutant> when I try to checkout a branch with bzr, in launchpad, it says "Not a branch", but it is the correct name. Could this be because it's tagged as +junk?
[07:19] <BeatlesFan_> hey all
[07:20] <ayo> PMT_: there is /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8
[07:21] <mib_ea3031z9> question: i'm trying to install the mod-wsgi module for apache2 on ubuntu - i did apt-get, but it never placed a .load file in mods-available - isn't it supposed to? Anyone have experience with this?
[07:22] <asdqwe> where i can have free shirt ubuntu?....
[07:22] <BeatlesFan> hey, how's it going?
[07:22] <asdqwe> i need https://usshop.ubuntu.com/product.php?code=09%2093107BN&catid=1
[07:22] <ayo> apt-cache policy ssl/libssl/ssl-dev, no package installed, what key word for ssl?
[07:22] <BeatlesFan> I just made the switch from Winxp Pro SP3 to Ubuntu 9.04
[07:23] <RHorse> !hi | BeatlesFan
[07:23] <BeatlesFan> thanks
[07:23] <Tully04> How you finding the change Beatles
[07:24] <BeatlesFan> well, I'm old school Unix person.. but I haven't touched it in over 10 years
[07:24] <BeatlesFan> it's interesting
[07:24] <BeatlesFan> I like the idea of open source and FREE
[07:24] <BeatlesFan> maybe you can give me some hints on how to activate the desktop enhancements in Gnome?
[07:25] <BeatlesFan> I have onboard graphics
[07:25] <iceroot> BeatlesFan: you mean compiz?
[07:25] <BeatlesFan> compiz
[07:25] <BeatlesFan> yes
[07:25] <iceroot> BeatlesFan: systems-settings-appereance (i think is the english translation)
[07:25] <ayo> PMT_: how to check if ssl or libssl-dev is installed? apt-cache policy xxx?
[07:26] <BeatlesFan> iceroot, right, but when I change it to Normal or Enhanced, it says can not enable
[07:26] <BeatlesFan> and the only option is to click "ok"
[07:26] <iceroot> BeatlesFan: which onboard card?
[07:27] <BeatlesFan> hang on, let me check, I used to know
[07:27] <BeatlesFan> it's a Microstar Motherboard
[07:27] <resin_> does anyone know if the new ubuntu + ati drivers fixed video tearing and overall bad quality video for the x1950 series of cards?
[07:27] <RHorse> oy
[07:27] <iceroot> BeatlesFan: its ok to know if it is intel, nvidia or ati
[07:27] <BeatlesFan> it's intel
[07:27] <BeatlesFan> I know that for sure
[07:28] <iceroot> BeatlesFan: hm then 3d should work out of the box with the open source driver
[07:30] <RHorse> BeatlesFan are there restricted drivers for that chipset?
[07:30] <lanoxx> can anyone tell me where the sticky notes applet saves its data?
[07:30] <JackGray> BeatlesFan: check your intel model no. I had a problem over the weekend with setting up some boxes with intel gfx cards.. see this post for example http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1139346
[07:30] <BeatlesFan> irceroot, not sure, how do I check?
[07:31] <iceroot> !tab | BeatlesFan
[07:31] <Ohithere> Hello ALL!!
[07:32] <BeatlesFan> iceroot, I've got the specs right here
[07:32] <BeatlesFan> Intel 865G chipset
[07:32] <Ohithere> Ive just installed tightvnc with the package, but for some reason, when i try and connect to my server with vncviewer.. it keeps saying "Failed to connect to server"
[07:32] <Ohithere> Can anyone help me with that?^
[07:34] <BeatlesFan> jackgray, going to try your post right now.. thanks
[07:35] <Ohithere> Ive just installed tightvnc with the package, but for some reason, when i try and connect to my server with vncviewer.. it keeps saying "Failed to connect to server"
[07:36] <JackGray> Ohithere: gotcha... have you started a server instance with the tightvncserver command?
[07:36] <Ohithere> ya
[07:36] <Ohithere> vncserver start
[07:36] <RHorse> Ohithere start vncviewer from  CLI and see if any  messages turn up
[07:36] <Ohithere> CLI?
[07:37] <RHorse> terminal
[07:37] <Ohithere> ohk
[07:37] <Ohithere> ok i did that
[07:38] <Ohithere> it just gave me Usage: tightvncserver etc..
[07:38] <Ohithere> and a bunch of options under that
[07:38] <Ohithere> and thats it
[07:38] <Ohithere> no errors or nothin
[07:38] <JackGray> Ohithere: which means you didn't do it right :D follow those usage instructions
[07:38] <RHorse> not the server,  the clientt
[07:39] <Finnish> My wireless disappeared last night! I did a clean install (9.04), but still no wireless! My wireless is
[07:39] <Finnish> 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[07:39] <RHorse> Finnish iwconfig ---> pastebin
[07:39] <Ohithere> Uhm, where are the usage instructions?
[07:40] <Finnish> RHorse: http://pastebin.com/m4fe7fa42
[07:41] <Finnish> RHorse: Previously I saw wireless also in the network manager, but no more
[07:41] <RHorse> Finnish type sudo iwconfig eth0, then iwconfig again
[07:42] <PiousMinion> IS there a UNR specific support channel?
[07:42] <Ohithere> Can someone help me with this vnc stuff?
[07:42] <Finnish> RHorse: eth0      no wireless extensions.
[07:42] <RHorse> Finnish type sudo iwconfig eth1, then iwconfig again
[07:43] <PiousMinion> Ohithere: even a vnc expert wouldn't be able to help if you don't state your problem,
[07:43] <Finnish> RHorse: Same thing
[07:43] <RHorse> Finnish type sudo iwconfig ath0, then iwconfig again
[07:44] <Dday> How do i get the font hevletica or whatever its callled?
[07:44] <arbiter26> Rhorse does the -a flag work in iwconfig like it works in ifconfig? Maybe finnish should try that
[07:44] <Finnish> RHorse: Incredible, ath0      No such device
[07:45] <RHorse> Finnish check  that wireless is enabled in bios, try taking out and reseating card. Beyond that, I'm  at a loss.
[07:46] <kbp> could someone tell me the difference between LRU cache and LFU cache? I've googled but hopeless :)
[07:46] <snowkitty> damn
[07:46] <arbiter26> Finnish, what about ifconfig wlan0?
[07:46] <snowkitty> i cant figure out how to load my settings in xchat
[07:46] <snowkitty> bbl
[07:46] <try2free> anyone know how to set clock in welcome screen ltsp?
[07:47] <Finnish> arbiter26: No such device. I know I had it working before, so this is something a bit strange
[07:47] <RHorse> Finnish does your card show up on lspci or lshw?
[07:47] <arbiter26> Finnish maybe try sudo lspci -k and see whether the wireless has a driver listed with it
[07:48] <ayo> (.text+0x676): warning: Using 'dlopen' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking, what does it mean?
[07:49] <uberadm> Finnish, are you using an atheros madwifi driver with your wireless card?
[07:49] <Finnish> The card shows up in lspci.
[07:50] <arbiter26> Finnish: That's a good sign. Did you see any drivers listed with it? (There should be kernel drivers or kernel modules next to a lot of things)
[07:51] <d0htem> anyone decent with bastille?
[07:52] <Finnish> uberadm: I think I have now the madwifi-driver enabled, but previously my wlan worked just fine without it. It seems wlan has dropped for some reason
[07:52] <moxfalder> where is EXECUTABLE of TVTime on my system ? can't find one !
[07:52] <ayo> look this:  /usr/lib/libcrypto.a(c_zlib.o): In function `zlib_stateful_expand_block':(.text+0x129): undefined reference to `inflate',  update libcrypto.a?
[07:52] <uberadm> Finnish, I also had trouble with my atheros wireless card on first install, but the madwifi driver fixed that
[07:53] <mib_ea3031z9> Question: when trying to install the mod-wsgi module (i.e. sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-wsgi) it isn't placing a wsgi.load file in /etc/apache2/mods-available, only wsgi.conf ; what is the problem here?
[07:53] <A|ice> is anyone here?
[07:53] <RHorse> no
[07:53] <arbiter26> ayo: Maybe make sure zlib is installed (it should be). Otherwise idk
[07:53] <uberadm> lol
[07:53] <A|ice> my ubuntu keeps freezing
[07:53] <Finnish> I'll do a reboot to se if that changes things
[07:53] <RHorse> get it a blankie
[07:54] <A|ice> i try to install it and it gets past the loading screen(were it says ubuntu and has a little bar under it) then it freezes when try to go to the next screen
[07:54] <hskill> this is weird. i had a *local* screen(1) session but i detached it AND reboooted my laptop and yet when i type 'screen -ls' it still shows up as detached. how is that possible? i thought screen sessions go away when you reboot the computer they were created on?
[07:54] <A|ice> i seriously dont know what to do
[07:55] <uberadm> A|ice, when you reboot into grub, change your boot options to verbose
[07:55] <RHorse> A|ice what kind  of computer?
[07:55] <ayo> arbiter26: apt-cache cannot find zlib and idk
[07:55] <moxfalder> WHERE is all executables of installed apps ?
[07:55] <uberadm> Alice, or whatever other bootloader you have
[07:55] <A|ice> its a old laptop RHorse. its a pentium 3 800 mhz lol
[07:55] <ayo> arbiter26: apt-cache policy zlib?
[07:55] <A|ice> into grub?
[07:56] <arbiter26> ayo: I'm wrong. It's not coming up for me either. Just try updating everything
[07:56] <sirninja> moxfalder: the command 'whereis' will tell you where the executable for a command is
[07:56] <RHorse> A|ice that's really just borderline acceptable
[07:56] <arbiter26> A|ice: How much RAM does it have?
[07:57] <Ohithere> can someone please help me with tightvnc
[07:57] <A|ice> i know i just want to try ubuntu. i havent tried it before
[07:57] <Ohithere> can someone please help me with tightvnc
[07:57] <RHorse> A|ice try the alternate cd or fluxbuntu
[07:57] <Finnish> RHorse: After reboot, iwconfig sees wlan0
[07:58] <arbiter26> A|ice: You might want to consider Xubuntu as well
[07:58] <RHorse> Finnish ok, are you  on wep?
[07:59] <Finnish> RHorse: http://pastebin.com/d1303a3b4
[08:00] <RHorse> Finnish is your router wep encrypted, open, wpa?
[08:00] <A|ice> should i format the hard drive to linux ext 3? or keep it as NTFS
[08:00] <RHorse> A|ice the installer will take care of it for you.
[08:00] <Finnish> I remember it's wep. Now it's funny, previously I saw about 10 networks around, now nothing
[08:01] <RHorse> Finnish OK you know the passwd?>
[08:01] <maxagaz> i have installed the package manpages-zh, but after i do LANG=zh_CN.utf8 in a terminal, and then 'man mount', it's still in english, why ?
[08:01] <Finnish> Yeah, I know
[08:01] <A|ice> like i said the installer crash's. i dont get no option of formatting
[08:01] <RHorse> it's  10 digits, right?
[08:02] <Finnish> No, longer
[08:02] <RHorse> oK
[08:02] <Finnish> 13?
[08:02] <RHorse> you must have a strong encryption.