[08:54] <Daft_Punk> say you have a theme you like in emerald but it doesnt use "shade" feature, how can you enable it on that theme?
[08:54] <joebob777as7> overrider, you can run it on that and just use nomachine, x forwarding, or rdp (terminal services)
[08:54] <bustaplz> haha doing this through ssh so no easy button for me
[08:54] <joebob777as7> it as in gnucash
[08:54] <bustaplz> going to go investigate, thank you
[08:54] <enzotib_> msh: it is the default for the backend, the frontend is started from the menu
[08:54] <overrider> joebob777as7, could :-)
[08:54] <jamesish> bustaplz: use ssh -Y then open nautilus.
[08:55] <joebob777as7> jamesish, yeah been through that but it doesn't fix my nvidia issue it just sticks me back to using vesa...
[08:55] <marcustomized> joebob777as7, i tried writing you a new xorg.conf here http://pastebin.ca/1218782
[08:55] <_coredump_> moinsen
[08:55] <bustaplz> i'm actually on putty, so that won't work will it?
[08:55] <joebob777as7> marcustomized, thx I'll teset it out
[08:55] <msh> enzotib: so it means its started on each startup?
[08:56] <Hern> zdravim vsechny
[08:56] <jamesish> bustaplz: never underestimate X's powers. But ln -s is really what you should use. Surprised you're comfortable using ssh but not ln -s. Putty has some built in X windows stuff, but you'll need to read up on it; naturally, you can't pass in the -Y flag on startup. Try installing cygwin, though, then you can.
[08:56] <dr_willis> bustaplz,  with xming, you can x forward x apps to the windows desktop. :)
[08:56] <enzotib_> msh: yep, check with pgrep firestarter
[08:56] <bustaplz> it's been a while since I've done the linux thing so i've forgotten some commands
[08:57] <marcustomized> joebob, u may need to adjust the horizontal sync rate i suggested because I pretty much guessed
[08:57] <msh> enzotib :ok :)
[08:57] <bustaplz> i'll look into xming and cygwin
[08:57] <jamesish> bustaplz: makes sense :) With a little time, it'll all come flooding back like some kind of unstoppable nightmare which will haunt your days and nights.
[08:57] <bustaplz> sounds interesting
[08:58] <dr_willis> bustaplz,  cygwin is a bit out of date i think.. xming is handy.. :)
[08:58] <bustaplz> I've been doing this all day
[08:58] <bustaplz> i love it
[08:58] <bustaplz> okay
[08:58] <bustaplz> is it just a client like putty?
[08:59] <DaveKong> what is the difference between joining through freenode vs ubuntu servers and oftc vs debian servers?
[08:59] <dr_willis> bustaplz,  its a X server for windows.
[08:59] <dr_willis> bustaplz,  it can work with putty
[08:59] <bustaplz> haha you're going to have me up all night
[09:00] <Daft_Punk> say you have a theme you like in emerald but it doesnt use "shade" feature, how can you enable it on that theme?
[09:00] <bustaplz> i imagine I have to be running X running to use something like Xming?
[09:02] <jamesish> X has to be installed on both machines, but it doesn't have to be running on both, only on the local machine.
[09:02] <joebob777as7> marcustomized, same errors... :(
[09:02] <marcustomized> damn
[09:03] <marcustomized> have u tried reinstalling the nvidia drivers through the restricted drivers manager?
[09:03] <joebob777as7> marcustomized, i'm going to try to install nvidia-glx-173 see if that makes a difference
[09:03] <joebob777as7> marcustomized, that's how I have 177 installed now
[09:03] <marcustomized> alright, go for it
[09:04] <simon49> to hack venerable # sikelo
[09:05] <bove> can the default ubuntu network manager be used from a console?
[09:05] <hosstest> is there anyway I can make it so that I can see folders in List mode and see Hidden files and folders at all times?
[09:07] <faria> how to kill the process
[09:07] <joebob777as7> marcustomized, the downloading adn installing driver screen  just sits at 0% and I can't even cancel it...
[09:08] <marcustomized> joebob, you're getting it directly from nvidia's site or doing something else?
[09:08] <leanardo_35> ,
[09:09] <maco> i just got a kernel panic in hardy.  how can i find out what caused it?
[09:09] <kirdneh> hello
[09:09] <joebob777as7> that's in the restricted driver download rebooting and going to do it in command line instead
[09:10] <kirdneh> i have problem
[09:10] <PeoplesAdvocate> Hello, Im new to this IRC stuff, any basics i should know?
[09:10] <joebob777as7> kirdneh, that sucks!
[09:10] <marcustomized> i'd just stay away from the restricted drivers now, and jus compile it from source
[09:11] <marcustomized> 173.14.12
[09:11] <joebob777as7> marcustomized, from nvidia site?
[09:11] <marcustomized> yes
[09:12] <marcustomized> joebob, http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[09:13] <marcustomized> make sure the old one from restricted is completely uninstalled
[09:13] <DaveKong> I installed both ubuntu 32bit and 64bit sharing a /home partition with their own roots but from grub I only see one kernal and can't tell if I am in 64 or 32 or where the other has gone
[09:13] <DaveKong> if anyone could let me know how to get the other in grub or how the 64bit could have installed 32 please let me know
[09:14] <velko> PeoplesAdvocate, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC
[09:14] <marcustomized> also, if u have a 9800gt, or greater, the old drivers wont do
[09:14] <PeoplesAdvocate> thanks velko
[09:15] <Terabyte> hey, does ubuntu come with java vm?
[09:17] <hanak> when i'm on my wireless lan, i can't download above 40K sombody know why?
[09:18] <joebob777as7> marcustomized, ran envyng and it reinstalled 177 and now all is working thx
[09:19] <marcustomized> great :)
[09:19] <stepnoff> Здравствуйте
[09:19] <maco> i just got a kernel panic in hardy.  how can i find out what caused it?
[09:19] <maco> !ru | stepnoff
[09:22] <PeoplesAdvocate> I have a fujitsu P1120 and I have recently installed xubuntu. It runs real slow compared to my XP on another partition. Specs of the laptop are (256mb RAM, 800MHz Transmeta Crusoe, 30 GIG HD, ATI Mobility Rage 8 mb Video card). Any suggestions?
[09:22] <Kelen> Hi, all. How to control the volume only left or right with Alsa driver?
[09:23] <marcustomized> Kelen, what?
[09:23] <maco> Kelen: right click the volume thing, go to open volume control. unlock PCM or Front (varies by computer) and move the sliders independently
[09:24] <marcustomized> maco, I want to know how you deciphered that sentence
[09:24] <PeoplesAdvocate> lol
[09:24] <maco> marcustomized: ignored the part where they thought the mixer and the driver were the same thing
[09:25] <marcustomized> o.O?
[09:25] <xjohnthomasx> can anyone help me get my videos and mp3's to play on my new ubuntu 8.04? i thought i'd installed all the necessary codecs with ubuntu-restricted.. but i guess not maybe?
[09:26] <slytherin> has anyone successfully installed IE7 using wine?
[09:26] <maco> slytherin: ies4linux has ie7
[09:26] <marcustomized> xjohnthomasx, just install totem with the xine backend
[09:26] <slytherin> maco: I will check
[09:26] <maco> slytherin: it looks like ie6 still, but they've got ie6's gui rigged up with ie7's rendering engine
[09:26] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: i did that.. but how do i know if it's running? it still eff's up
[09:26] <marcustomized> plays just about everything
[09:27] <slytherin> maco: is it ies4linux or ie4linux?
[09:27] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: how do i switch between -xine and -gstreamer for totem?
[09:27] <marcustomized> what do u mean, "if it's running"?  Are you not getting audio or something
[09:27] <Kelen> maco: thanks a lot..
[09:27] <xjohnthomasx> i get stuttering video.. and no audio.. and rhythmbox doesnt playmp3's either..
[09:27] <Kelen> maco: i got it.
[09:27] <maco> slytherin: er...something along those general lines? tatanka i think for the website name
[09:28] <DaveKong> ok I ran uname -a and it says ubuntu x86_64 ... so that means I am in 64 bit right?
[09:28] <slytherin> maco: ok, then it is ies4linux
[09:29] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: i get stuttering video.. no audio.. rhythmnbox doesnt play mp3's either..
[09:29] <xavierk> How do I make a visudo command that allows me to run a bash script using a variable... such as "nobody ALL=NOPASSWD:/home/my/serpublic_html/cmd.sh ALLOWEDVARS" ??  instead of /cmd.sh *?
[09:29] <Peddy> can someone please explain the difference between eth0 and wlan0? Thanks.
[09:29] <marcustomized> totem-xine should automatically use the xine backend, so im guessing u have both totem xine, and totem-gstreamer installed
[09:30] <marcustomized> if thats possible
[09:30] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: i do, but where is the totem-xine, or should i uninstall gstreamer?
[09:30] <xjohnthomasx> why does gstreamer exist, if it messes up and doesnt work?
[09:30] <slytherin> DaveKong: No, it simply means that your machines architecture is x86_64
[09:30] <ubbuntu-newbie> @ all im using fiesty fawn ubuntu 7.04 and want to upgrade to gutsy... do i have to download 625 MB???? or is there a quicker way???(less download time)
[09:30] <marcustomized> keep gstreamer, because I think rhythmbox can only use a gstreamer backend
[09:30] <marcustomized> uninstall totem xine
[09:31] <slytherin> marcustomized: xjohnthomasx: totem uses only one backend at a time
[09:31] <PeoplesAdvocate> vlc player is great!!!
[09:31] <Ab3L> hello everybody. ciao a tutti. salut à tout le monde...
[09:31] <maco> Peddy: eth0 = first ethernet device. wlan0 = name of first wireless device with intel wifi, maybe some others
[09:31] <marcustomized> and install every gstreamer plugin package in synaptic
[09:31] <DaveKong> slytherin, how do I know if I am running 64 bit?
[09:31] <ubbuntu-newbie> im using fiesty fawn ubuntu 7.04 and want to upgrade to gutsy... do i have to download 625 MB???? or is there a quicker way???(less download time)
[09:31] <steve_> i installed postgresql i cant find where it is in the system
[09:31] <Peddy> maco: so if I want to configure IP masquerading, do I choose eth0 or wlan0 for NAT?
[09:32] <maco> DaveKong: "uname -a" output says so
[09:32] <marcustomized> slytherin, my mistake, i dont use ubuntu, just going off of stuff i vaguely remember about Fiesty
[09:32] <maco> Peddy: depends if you're using wifi or wired. eth0 is your wired one, wlan0 is your wireless
[09:32] <Peddy> maco: I'm using wireless ;)
[09:32] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: ok, i uninstalled totem-gstreamer, and then the video seemed to play all right for about 30seconds.. and then it froze, and  totem crashed
[09:33] <maco> Peddy: then wlan0
[09:33] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: what kind of vide is it?
[09:33] <slytherin> DaveKong: no idea
[09:33] <maco> Peddy: though i've no clue what IP masquerading is
[09:33] <xjohnthomasx> a movie
[09:33] <marcustomized> what codec?
[09:33] <DaveKong> maco,  it says 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP ... x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:33] <xjohnthomasx> you mean suffix? it's a mpg
[09:33] <PeoplesAdvocate> I want to know if the MADWIFI drivers that come with the ubuntu distro supports INJECTION for AIRCRACK already or do I need to install a different version?
[09:33] <maco> DaveKong: see the 64?
[09:33] <Kelen> maco: in addition. is it possible for ubuntu to upgrade kernel automatically?
[09:33] <maco> PeoplesAdvocate: try and see what happens?
[09:34] <Peddy> maco: IP masquerading is the linux equivalent of Internet Connection Sharing
[09:34] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: mpg
[09:34] <DaveKong> maco I see a 64 but not in the kernel name just the part later
[09:34] <Peddy> maco: so is eth0 not being used at all?
[09:34] <Peddy> if I use wifi
[09:34] <maco> Kelen: i dont believe so. that's a big change and requires a reboot. automatic rebooting while you're doing important things isn't my idea of a feature.
[09:34] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: I don't understand why you are having trouble playing it with totem-gstreamer. Did you install all the gstreamer codecs in repositories?
[09:34] <slytherin> Peddy: of course not
[09:34] <mart> Peddy, yes
[09:34] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: how will i know?
[09:34] <marcustomized> see, i've always used only one backend for everything, he's mixing them
[09:34] <maco> DaveKong: yeah, that's the part that tells you. -a is "all" i forget which flag (-r maybe?) tells just the architecture
[09:35] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: open System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager and search for gstreamer.
[09:35] <xjohnthomasx> ok, and then what?
[09:35] <Peddy> thanks maco
[09:35] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: ok and then what?
[09:35] <DaveKong> maco, ok thanks... so now I just need to add the location of the root for the 32 bit install to Grub and I can boot either?
[09:36] <Peddy> slytherin: isn't eth9 a LAN device?
[09:36] <Peddy> slytherin: eth0*
[09:36] <marcustomized> xjohn, are all the "bad", "good", and "base" sets installed
[09:36] <slytherin> Peddy: yes it is.
[09:36] <kdavey> Hello all
[09:36] <marcustomized> also the "ugly" set
[09:37] <Peddy> slytherin: you said 'of course not', was that 'of course it isn't used' or 'of course it isn't not used'?
[09:37] <Peddy> heh
[09:37] <maco> DaveKong: /me looks at you funny.  "grub should have been automatically set up"
[09:37] <mart> it isn't use
[09:37] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: make sure you have installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg. Then make sure you have totem-gstreamer installed.
[09:37] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: it seems to have at least one of each of those sets.. it doesn't have a few packages from each of those sets, usually with suffix -db or -dc etc.
[09:37] <slytherin> Peddy: when you are using wifi why would your ethernet card be used?
[09:38] <Peddy> slytherin: as a LAN device :P
[09:38] <Peddy> slytherin: for the wlan
[09:38] <marcustomized> install everything gstreamer, uninstall totem-xine and replace it with totem-gstreamer
[09:38] <DaveKong> maco well that is why I am confused and why I thought I might not be 64 Grub set up my windows and other installs but does not show the 32 bit ubuntu
[09:38] <Peddy> slytherin: ok I'll tell you how I got confused
[09:38] <Zhane> hey
[09:38] <slytherin> Peddy: No. eth0 is for wired lan, wlano is wireless lan
[09:38] <Zhane> is there any guide for writing device driver module?
[09:39] <maco> Zhane: don't waste your money on the book Linux Device Drivers v 3.  it's terribly outdated.
[09:39] <slytherin> Zhane: for which device do you wish to write driver?
[09:39] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: i had all those things installed before..
[09:39] <Peddy> slytherin: Firestarter autodetects wlan0 as a 'internet connected network device' , and it autodetects wlan0 as 'local area network device'.
[09:39] <maco> Zhane: it's also creative-commons licensed and thus available freely online
[09:39] <Zhane> erm.. RTAI? ucsimm?
[09:39] <CoderCR> I am trying to get hardware acceleration working with Kubuntu (latest). I have an ATI 9100IGP.
[09:39] <Zhane> i know how to write basic modules, but have no idea how to make modules share variables
[09:40] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: um, now it's playing back in blue shades
[09:40] <xjohnthomasx> like, shades of blue
[09:40] <slytherin> Peddy: haven't used firestarter for a while.
[09:40] <marcustomized> hmm
[09:40] <georgeaf> hey guys, i'm having a prob with wvdial and pppd, anyone interested in helping ?
[09:40] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: and it's again slow and stuttering.. nos ound either..
[09:40] <Kelen> maco: yep, i know it's a require to reboot while i done some important thing with system.  i just don't know the kernel will be  upgrade automatic or not.
[09:40] <marcustomized> delete the "/gstreamer" folder in your home folder
[09:40] <marcustomized> its hidden
[09:40] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: check in totem preferences if you have messed up hue and saturation settings
[09:40] <marcustomized> ".gstreamer"
[09:40] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: it's stuttering too.. i ddnt change nay settings..
[09:40] <Peddy> slytherin: and when I try to set both internet connected network device and local area network device as wlan0, it says 'the local and internet connected devices can not be the same'.
[09:40] <Daremonai> my ubuntu's giving me kernel panics. Also when ubuntu's loaded and everything, sometimes it freezes and the keyboard's caps lock and scroll lock start flashing on and off, if I reset it (hard reset) it gives me kernel panics and doesn't load. but if I press power button to turn it off then on again, it works.
[09:40] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: xine played it a little better it seems..
[09:40] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: but still had no audio
[09:41] <hasten> Hiya
[09:41] <xjohnthomasx> and crashed after 30 sec
[09:41] <DaveKong> maco I shared /home, swap, /boot, and /usr/local over the two installs because SAG and forum posts suggested this but gave it it's own "/"
[09:41] <paul68> hi is there a possibility to move my mails in thunderbird under windows to the mails from thunderbird in ubuntu?
[09:41] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: I am sure both gstreamer and xine developers will thank you for the file that can reproduce teh crash. :-)
[09:41] <georgeaf> hey ppl, pppd disconnects automatically for me just after connecting
[09:41] <ziroday> Daremonai: thats not good. Does it happen on a fresh install? Does it happen right after you start up?
[09:41] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: i deleted .gstream.. now what??
[09:41] <marcustomized> go into .config
[09:41] <georgeaf> hey ppl, pppd disconnects automatically for me just after connecting
[09:42] <marcustomized> and delete the "totem" folder
[09:42] <kdavey> Anyone else having problems getting Kubuntu 8.10Beta to use resolutions over 800x600 in Virtualbox?
[09:42] <marcustomized> basically clearing all all the settings
[09:42] <CoderCR> Could someone help me get hardware acceleration working for my ATI 9100IGP
[09:42] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: i dont see why. it's just a music video
[09:42] <ziroday> georgeaf: I presume you are trying to connect a 3G modem?
[09:42] <georgeaf> no
[09:42] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: where's the totem folder?
[09:42] <ziroday> !ati | CoderCR
[09:42] <georgeaf> conexant
[09:42] <maco> DaveKong: /usr/local? well that's a bad idea. if you compile something for 64bit, it won't run on your 32bit system. /boot can also cause a bit of an interesting situation when multibooting...get filled up with all those kernels...and ubuntu expects grub to be installed on the mbr
[09:42] <georgeaf> i have a licensed linuxant driver
[09:43] <marcustomized> if i recall, its in your home directory, within the hidden ".config" folder
[09:43] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: where's the totem folder im supposed to delee?
[09:43] <mibilub> #list
[09:43] <maco> DaveKong: probably didn't know to add the other install's lines because of your separate /boot
[09:43] <maco> DaveKong: so yeah, add them manually and it should be fine
[09:43] <marcustomized> if it isnt there, check the ".gconf" folders
[09:43] <ziroday> georgeaf: what are you trying to connect to? What guide are you following? What model modem do oyu have?
[09:44] <kdavey> Anyone else having problems getting Kubuntu 8.10Beta to use resolutions over 800x600 in Virtualbox?
[09:44] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: totem deleted. now what?
[09:44] <marcustomized> ok
[09:44] <ziroday> kdavey: ask in #kubuntu
[09:44] <marcustomized> close out totem if if it isnt already, then try to play your video again
[09:44] <georgeaf> i'm trying to connect to my ISP. I'm not following any guide AND my modem is an Intel HDA (on an Acer laptop) which is actually conexant
[09:44] <hanak> anyone knows why my network speed is so slow
[09:44] <hanak> on ubuntu?
[09:45] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: still blue and slow and stuttering with no audio
[09:45] <leetsauce> hey guys, can i install the 8.10 beta on a machine that already has windows xp? will it update itself to the full version when it's out?
[09:45] <ziroday> georgeaf: okay, one moment please
[09:45] <Daremonai> ziroday, it's not a fresh install, i've been running it for months, well, actually i had it since 8.04 was released. It doesn't do it on start up, what it does is it loads GUI and at some point (random times - for me anyway) it does what i described above. And if I reset, on boot it tells me "Kernel Panic" blabla
[09:45] <georgeaf> ziroday: ok thanks
[09:45] <marcustomized> xjohn, then I have no idea what the issue is
[09:45] <ortsvorsteher> hanak, how is your computer connected?
[09:45] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: you have ideas?
[09:45] <hanak> ortsvorsteher: wireless
[09:46] <leetsauce> anyone?
[09:46] <ziroday> Daremonai: can you see if the issue persists with a fresh install?
[09:46] <hanak> ortsvorsteher: i dont have speed above 30kb 40kb same wifi card on windows i get 1mb.
[09:46] <ortsvorsteher> are your near the access point? hanak
[09:46] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: I never had any problem with any file with gstreamer, not sure why it is not working for you.
[09:46] <Daremonai> ziroday, I can't do a fresh install now.. am trying to fix it without having to install again.. I have a LOT of services running and stuff :(
[09:47] <leetsauce> hey guys, can i install the 8.10 beta on a machine that already has windows xp? will it update itself to the full version when it's out?
[09:47] <ziroday> leetsauce: yes, however the beta is extremely unstable, can destroy your hardware and its not recommend at all.
[09:48] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: i need to get the videos and mp3s to playback. i had all those files installed. i have a quad core 2.64, nvidia geforce 8400, 3gb ram, and ubuntu 8.04.. what should i do? i made sure the restricted, and the w32codecs, and the gstreamer were installed.. but it's not working..
[09:48] <leetsauce> so what do you recommend? do i install v8.04 or wait for v8.10 final?
[09:48] <Daremonai> ziroday, do you know which log file i should check so that i can further diagnoze the problem?
[09:48] <hanak> leetsauce: yeah
[09:48] <ziroday> Daremonai: no sorry.
[09:48] <mart> leetsauce, just install hardy
[09:48] <ziroday> leetsauce: install 8.04
[09:48] <DaveKong> maco, ok thanks wish I could fine some more comprehensive stuff on this I read everything I could find over the course of some days
[09:49] <leetsauce> okay
[09:49] <leetsauce> anyone here tried installing ubuntu on a toshiba laptop?
[09:49] <hanak> damn i hate that speed, damn :p
[09:49] <HNSZ> I have a problem installing linux on a toshiba satellite s300. After a while the screen will scramble. It happens before any of the installation steps.
[09:49] <maco> DaveKong: look for grub.conf on google. it's called that in lots of distros.
[09:49] <hanak> leetsauce: yeah I before but quite long time
[09:49] <marcustomized> xjohn, seek out and delete all gstreamer/totem settings hidden in your home folder
[09:49] <HNSZ> leetsauce: yes me
[09:49] <marcustomized> delete the ".xine" folder too
[09:49] <xjohnthomasx> marcustomized: where would all those be?
[09:49] <leetsauce> cool, is it possible to dual boot?
[09:50] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: please paste output of command - dpkg -l gstreamer0.10* - in pastebin
[09:50] <marcustomized> within your home folder
[09:50] <leetsauce> and should i get the 23bit version or 64bit?
[09:50] <leetsauce> 32*bit
[09:50] <hanak> Why not, its just your bootsector no?
[09:50] <marcustomized> scattered in everything that starts with a "."
[09:50] <hanak> If you install windows first then linux.
[09:50] <slytherin> leetsauce: why do you think it won't be possible to do dual boot?
[09:50] <hanak> he will make dualboot
[09:50] <mart> i'm using dual boot right now
[09:50] <slytherin> leetsauce: and 32 or 64 bit depends on your processor
[09:50] <leetsauce> slytherin: just asking :D
[09:50] <mart> no problem at all
[09:50] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: http://pastebin.com/m8585952
[09:51] <ziroday> leetsauce: yes, and deciding between those is up to you. Some apps don't run on 32bit whilst 64bit can be faster and can use more then 3.5GB ram
[09:51] <mart> my machine is 64, but i install 32
[09:51] <leetsauce> i have a 64bit processor, but i heard there aren't much programs for 64bit
[09:51] <DaveKong> maco: alright and I will just have to keep a careful eye on what I put in usr/local for /home I am following the advice of using different user logins to keep things seperate on the same partition
[09:51] <mart> 64bit is hard to find right soft
[09:51] <leetsauce> i just need basic functionality though, no games or anything..
[09:51] <mart> not all are supported
[09:51] <kdavey> yea give it another 2 or 3 years and 64bit will be king
[09:52] <mart> then just wait till that time to come
[09:52] <georgeaf> ziroday: can i somehow log what happens in windows and then do the same in linux ?
[09:52] <Daremonai> s
[09:52] <leetsauce> is there a significant speed difference between 32bit and 64bit? is it noticeable?
[09:52] <slytherin> leetsauce: you won't have luck with flash on 64 bit.
[09:52] <r_a_j_e> is it ok to install 386 ubuntu on 64 bit processor?
[09:52] <georgeaf> ziroday: i mean like the init string and all these
[09:52] <Daremonai> ziroday, in /var/log/syslog: ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found. - does that matter?
[09:52] <maco> DaveKong: that's safe for /home for /usr/local ...when you compile, use --prefix=/usr/local/64 or /usr/local/32 (create those directories) to keep things separate
[09:53] <ziroday> georgeaf: no, as in windows those logs aren't displayed
[09:53] <DaveKong> maco ok thanks a lot for all your help
[09:53] <mart> it will make things complicated
[09:53] <mart> unless ur running server
[09:53] <maco> DaveKong: honestly, desktop system.... / /home & swap are all ya need.  servers separate /var to keep DOS attacks from flooding their entire / and killing it all. unlikely you need that on a desktop system
[09:53] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: did you see that? http://pastebin.com/m8585952
[09:53] <ziroday> Daremonai: don't think so, but I am not an expert on the matter. You may want to file a bug
[09:53] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: yes, you have all the necessary plugins installed.
[09:53] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: my playback is stuttering, slow, no audio, and blue in totem!
[09:53] <Daremonai> ziroday, mmm okay
[09:53] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: is the file available somewhere for download?
[09:54] <xjohnthomasx> no, it's any mpeg
[09:54] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: then something else is wrong.
[09:54] <DaveKong> maco ok
[09:54] <Computech> hello,k does somebody know how to format a hadrisk with ubuntu???
[09:54] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: please help.. im at your direction
[09:55] <leetsauce> can i burn the iso to a dvd?
[09:55] <mart> computech, use gparted
[09:55] <slytherin> leetsauce: there are DVD iso available for download as well.
[09:55] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: let me think
[09:55] <Daft_Punk_> you guys i need some MAJOR help. I was on my laptop and under CCSM i went to general settings, and opacify windows and set it to any and 0 by accident, now i cant see nothing!!! :( plz help
[09:55] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: pm me?
[09:55] <Computech> mart, is that a programm with a gui?
[09:55] <mart> yes
[09:55] <smidge> lol
[09:55] <leetsauce> where is the DVD iso?
[09:56] <Computech> ok :)
[09:56] <neo_chan> hello everyone, which of backup tools is best?
[09:56] <mart> computech, r u looking for command?
[09:56] <georgeaf> anyone interested in my dialup prob ? :( i'm dying here
[09:56] <Computech> mart, no
[09:56] <kdavey> neo:  that depends totally on what you need out of your backup solution
[09:56] <dajero> mm I made quite a grave error on my dad's computer. I configured mount options by right clicking on a mounted partitions but now it won't mount anymore as I entered "/media/something" as its mount point
[09:57] <mart> neo_chan, use simple_backup
[09:57] <dajero> now I cannot figure out how to undo that
[09:57] <Computech> mart, im actually looking for one (i prefer gui) that is already installed in the live cd
[09:57] <slytherin> georgeaf: stop using internal modems. :-P
[09:57] <mart> oh, it's already on live cd
[09:57] <neo_chan> I need to backup some of data such as photo.
[09:57] <georgeaf> slytherin: it's a laptop
[09:57] <mart> computech, just go to system > administrator
[09:57] <Computech> :o
[09:57] <Daft_Punk_> you guys i need some MAJOR help. I was on my laptop and under CCSM i went to general settings, and opacify windows and set it to any and 0 by accident, now i cant see nothing!!! :( plz help
[09:58] <Computech> mart, and then?
[09:58] <smidge> hold your horses man i am looking it up
[09:58] <mart> computech, there u'll see partition manager
[09:58] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: what do you think
[09:58] <marcustomized> Daft Punk, can u open a terminal?
[09:58] <mart> partition editor*
[09:58] <Daft_Punk_> no
[09:58] <ziroday> georgeaf: sorry I forgot about you. Try reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[09:58] <Daft_Punk_> marcustomized, no i can go into safe boot tho
[09:58] <smidge> Daft_Punk do you have a boot cd?
[09:58] <Daft_Punk_> smidge, yes i do
[09:58] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: which graphics card are you using?
[09:58] <Computech> mart, i dont see a partition manager :o
[09:58] <smidge> no worries yo not need it
[09:58] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: nvidia geforce 8400
[09:58] <mart> i mean partition editor
[09:58] <marcustomized> if u do that, I wont be able to walk u through it...
[09:58] <georgeaf> ok one sec
[09:58] <smidge> you can get a console with control-alt-f1
[09:59] <marcustomized> can u open a file manager?
[09:59] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: (it's an hp pavilion elite m9150f
[09:59] <Daft_Punk_> marcustomized, are you talking to me? i am on another computer right now... my laptop i cant see anything, how else can i type to u :p
[09:59] <Computech> mart, can you make a screenshot, i got the dutch ubuntu so i cant really find it :S
[09:59] <mart> neo_chan, simple backup can do all the basic and advance backup
[09:59] <leetsauce> where is the DVD ISO for ubuntu?
[09:59] <Computech> mart, and also it looks like in synaptic that gparted isn't installed at the moment
[10:00] <smidge> Daft_Punk_: use control-alt-F1 to get a console up
[10:00] <Daft_Punk_> smidge, i cant get a console because i cant see anything at all, just my background image
[10:00] <slytherin> Daft_Punk: Use Ctrl + Alt + F1 to go to console and use this command - rm -rf ~/.compiz. Come back to GUI with Ctrl + Alt + F7, see if it helps
[10:00] <smidge> yes
[10:00] <slytherin> leetsauce: wait
[10:00] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: should i just try using all xine stuff instead of gstreamer?
[10:00] <smidge> this is seperate to the gu
[10:00] <smidge> gui
[10:00] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: what's the difference between them?
[10:00] <Daft_Punk_> slytherin, will that ruin my compiz settings at all?
[10:00] <smidge> nope it will take you out of x-windows temporarily
[10:00] <mart> computech, one sec
[10:00] <slytherin> Daft_Punkyes
[10:01] <Computech> mart, ok :)
[10:01] <georgeaf> i think i'll try another dialer
[10:01] <georgeaf> instead of wvdial
[10:01] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: do you think it might be problem with video card? But that still doesn't explain why there is no audio.
[10:01] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: no, no prob with video or audio card..
[10:01] <mart> computech, press alt+f2
[10:01] <Computech> ye
[10:01] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: it's definitely something to do with the software
[10:01] <mart> then type "gksu gparted"
[10:01] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: sorry, I meant video card driver
[10:01] <mart> without quote
[10:01] <marcustomized> Daft Punk, run slytherin's command
[10:02] <Daft_Punk_> slytherin, it did not work
[10:02] <mart> u gotta be a root
[10:02] <Computech> mart, no sudo?
[10:02] <mart> no
[10:02] <mart> gksu gparted
[10:02] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: i dont think so. when i used xine totem, it seemed to play back ok, but then crashed after 30 secones..
[10:02] <Peddy> Can someone please help me with configuring IP Masquerading?
[10:02] <Daft_Punk_> slytherin, it said it removed that folder but i go back to desktop and its still the same
[10:02] <smidge> Daft_punk_ wait one i am getting you the command you need
[10:02] <georgeaf> hey ain't all dialers use pppd ???
[10:02]  * Daft_Punk_ cries, i think i just ruined compiz settings for no reaosn :(
[10:02] <marcustomized> Daft Punk, 'Ctrl + Alt + Backspace' to restart X
[10:03] <leetsauce> how is the dual core support on ubuntu?
[10:03] <Daft_Punk_> marcustomized, ok
[10:03] <georgeaf> all dialers use pppd right ?
[10:03] <Computech> mart, it begins loading for about10 sec and then stops :o, by the way, this is a installed ubuntu, maybe thats why it doesn't work here?, does it only work if you run a live cd?
[10:03] <ziroday> leetsauce: great.
[10:03] <slytherin> Daft_Punk_: what marcustomized said
[10:03] <Daft_Punk_> slytherin, yeah i did it im checking now
[10:03] <leetsauce> good :)
[10:03] <leetsauce> can anyone find me the dvd iso link... i cant find it on the website
[10:03] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: I am out of ideas. Please file a bug.
[10:03] <Daft_Punk_> slytherin, marcustomized same thing... all windows are still opacify, i cant see nothing
[10:04] <mart> computech, go to command then run"sudo apt-get install gparted"
[10:04] <smidge> that is because it is configured through the gconf backend
[10:04] <mart> without quote, see if it's already installed
[10:04] <slytherin> Daft_Punk_: obviously your GUI didn't start. Otherwise you wouldn't be here. I suggest you close down all the programs and then restart machine
[10:04] <Computech> mart, is that possible on a live cd to? or is it installed on a live cd by default?
[10:05] <Daft_Punk_> slytherin, again, i am working on my laptop issue, i am on a desktop right now
[10:05] <mart> computech, it's available on live cd but not installed
[10:05] <marcustomized> slytherin, are the compiz settings stored somewhere else?
[10:05] <mart> what do u have now?
[10:05] <Computech> mart, i just go try something, be right back
[10:05] <slytherin> leetsauce: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04.1/release/
[10:05] <slytherin> marcustomized: AFAIK, no
[10:05] <smidge> DAFTPUNK: gconftool-2 -s /apps/compiz/plugins/opacify/screen0/options/active_opacity 100 --type integer
[10:06] <crd1b> smidge: that's not what he set
[10:06] <marcustomized> gconf is so retarded
[10:06] <crd1b> he misspelled "opacity windows" in his original post
[10:06] <slytherin> maco: ies4linux doesn't have IE7
[10:06] <crd1b> Daft_Punk_: just start metacity or boot into the Failsafe GNOME session from the login screen if you don't know how
[10:06] <Peddy> Can someone please help me with configuring NAT?
[10:07] <crd1b> then you can fix that setting in CCSM at your leisure
[10:08] <Daft_Punk_> ok. my LAPTOP has this problem (i am on desktop right now). i was in CCSM and went to General settings and was in opacity settings, and added a new value so that ALL windows (any) are set at 0 opacity, which means i can see absolutely nothing except my desktop wallpaper...
[10:08] <Daft_Punk_> i dont care if i have to redo my entire compiz settings, how can i reset it all
[10:08] <crd1b> Daft_Punk_: yes, so log out, then select the "Failsafe GNOME" session at the login screen
[10:08] <Daft_Punk_> crd1b, then what?
[10:09] <crd1b> then you will be able to fix that setting in CCSM
[10:09] <crd1b> as the failsafe session will not start compiz
[10:09] <Daft_Punk_> crd1b, ok give me a second its rebooting now
[10:09] <maco> slytherin: look around the site, there's a version on there that does.
[10:09] <maco> slytherin: it might be ies4linux beta
[10:09] <Daft_Punk_> crd1b, i am just panicky cuz it took me 1 week to get my laptop the way it was :( before i broked it
[10:10] <kdavey> backups are good....
[10:10] <marcustomized> 1 week to set up compiz?!
[10:10] <Daremonai> usb 1-1: device not accepting address 2, error -71
[10:10] <Daremonai> what is that?
[10:10] <slytherin> maco: found it
[10:10] <Daft_Punk_> marcustomized, no, 1 week to setup EVERYTHING including, finding all the theme files and creating custom icons
[10:11] <marcustomized> custom icons,... delicious
[10:11] <kdavey> errno 71 is a protocol error
[10:11] <Daremonai> kdavey, meaning?
[10:12] <kdavey> heh heh...  hell if I know.  but thats what errno 71 is
[10:12] <jitu3485> is there a way to revert back if I update my hardy with unstable repositories and then back to stable repository?
[10:12] <marcustomized> now i feel like listening to Daft Punk's Discovery album.  Thank you internet stranger.  You've made my day that much sweeter.
[10:12] <Daft_Punk_> crd1b, that worked... now im upset that _someone_ told me to delete ~/.compiz
[10:12] <ziroday> jitu3485: so you upgraded to 8.10 and now want to go back to 8.04?
[10:12] <crd1b> Daft_Punk_: there are no settings in ~/.compiz
[10:12] <Daft_Punk_> crd1b, what is in there?
[10:13] <slytherin> jitu3485: no there is no way to revert back
[10:13] <crd1b> Daft_Punk_: compiled plugins and some session information
[10:13] <Daft_Punk_> crd1b, i had lots of compiled plugins :(
[10:13] <smidge> sometimes compiz can be configured to run with that file as settings, but in ubuntu it uses gconf
[10:13] <jitu3485> ziroday, i still have  8.04 updated it with unstable repo and want revert back to stable one removing everything installed by unstable ones
[10:13] <mart> anyone got compiz run with wow?
[10:13] <slytherin> jitu3485: it is not possible.
[10:14] <jitu3485> ok
[10:14] <mart> noone?
[10:14] <Daft_Punk_> gconftool-2 -s /apps/compiz/plugins/opacify/screen0/options/active_opacity 100 --type integer
[10:14] <Daft_Punk_> how do i undo that command i did?
[10:14] <jitu3485> thanks for responses
[10:14] <zielony> hallo
[10:15] <crd1b> Daft_Punk_: it didn't do any damage as that is the default value
[10:15] <Daft_Punk_> crd1b, wow what a scare that was lol, thanks for helping me +1 karma
[10:15] <smidge> sudo rm -rf /
[10:15] <Daft_Punk_> smidge, y would u say that?
[10:15] <zielony>  is my first time in chat
[10:16] <marcustomized> cuz he's a dick
[10:16] <smidge> end it now :p
[10:16] <Daft_Punk_> ya hes a dick...
[10:16] <MAdWizard`> Huh??
[10:16] <marcustomized> madwizard, why are you so mad :(
[10:16] <MAdWizard`> I am MAd as in CrAzY
[10:17] <marcustomized> o, that kinda mad.... lame.
[10:17] <mart> what?
[10:17] <MAdWizard`> And I got the Doc and pills to prove it
[10:17] <marcustomized> sweet
[10:17] <slytherin> maco: the ies4linux I downloaded can install IE 7, it was just an davanced option.
[10:17] <marcustomized> sharing is caring
[10:18] <MAdWizard`> Ok I am very new Ubuntu, and it has been over 15 years since I got fed up with redhat and linux.
[10:18] <mart> madwizard, aren't they still linux?
[10:19] <mart> i don't see the big differences
[10:19] <MAdWizard`> Now what I would like to do at this point in install the chipset drivers for my motherboard, already downloaded them.
[10:19] <bullgard4> What fonts are collected in /usr/share/consolefonts?
[10:19] <aion> hello everyone, could someone please tell me why i have "Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version" when I am trying to install ati drivers from their server on ubuntu 8.10 b?
[10:20] <maco> slytherin: ah ok
[10:20] <Peddy> Can someone please help me with configuring NAT?
[10:20] <MAdWizard`> mart I am test/trying out Ubuntu linux to see if I like it to run as a server for my home network
[10:20] <marcustomized> chipset drivers?!
[10:20] <mart> oh i see.
[10:20] <ziroday> MAdWizard`: you shouldn't need to install any chipset drivers. They are already there for you.
[10:21] <mart> i think centos would be better for server
[10:21] <MAdWizard`> ziAck
[10:21] <mart> madwizard, but home server, i have no ideas
[10:21] <MAdWizard`> Ack, this is not like mIRC
[10:21] <mart> madwizard, this is crazy
[10:21] <Terabyte> Hey how can I install xlib-dev package in ubuntu?
[10:21] <marcustomized> pure debian is pretty good for servers
[10:22] <ziroday> Terabyte: sudo apt-get install xlib-dev
[10:22] <rski> Terabyte: sudo apt-get install xlib-dev in a terminal
[10:22] <marcustomized> and slackware
[10:22] <MAdWizard`> ok Ziroday the motherboard and CPU are 64 bit, and Ubuntu installed as a 32 bit.
[10:22] <Terabyte> tried that....
[10:22] <Terabyte> but it doesn't work
[10:22] <rski> why
[10:22] <chook1> ubuntu-fr
[10:22] <Terabyte> "E: Couldn't ind package xlib-dev
[10:22] <slytherin> MAdWizard`: Are you sure Redhat and linux existed 15 years ago?
[10:22] <chook1> join ubuntu-fr
[10:22] <chook1> hmm
[10:22] <smidge> lol
[10:22] <MAdWizard`> slytherin, Oh yes I'm sure I still have the book and CDs
[10:23] <mart> slytherin, now that u mentioned it
[10:23] <Terabyte> dski: "E: Couldn't find package xlib-dev" sorry
[10:23] <ziroday> !offtopic
[10:23] <mart> oh yea,
[10:23] <Terabyte> gah!, rski* sorry :P
[10:23] <rski> Terabyte: isnt it xlibs-dev ?
[10:23] <rski> or something
[10:23] <Terabyte> oh ok, i'm reading off a forum
[10:23] <rski> im sure it's just  a typ-o
[10:23] <chook1> #join ubuntu-fr
[10:24] <saurabh> where are ip address settings stored other than /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:24] <ziroday> chook1: its /join #ubuntu-fr
[10:24] <slytherin> MAdWizard`: redhat was founded in 1995. :-P
[10:24] <chook1> ahh ok thx ziroday
[10:24] <Terabyte> ok thanks
[10:24] <smidge> zomg 12 years as opposed to 15 !!!!1
[10:24] <davidryder> yo!!
[10:24] <MAdWizard`> sly hang on
[10:24] <rski> abooooooo
[10:24] <davidryder> i'm surprised this room is normally busy
[10:25] <ziroday> davidryder: this room is busy, if you would just like to chat you can in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <plouffe> how can I edit the bootmanager?
[10:25] <crazy_bus> is there any easy way to use two programs with a webcam at once?  Will I have to compile vloopback?  As I tried that but modprobe can't find it
[10:26] <marcustomized> editing the file at "/boot/grub/menu.lst"
[10:26] <davidryder> ziroday:  i'm watching to help, but i want to chat at the same time
[10:26] <ziroday> plouffe: by editing the file /boot/grub/menu.lst Makse sure you know what you are doing as you can render your system unbootable
[10:26] <MAdWizard`> sly found the CDs but not the book, on 10 years ago
[10:26] <MAdWizard`> seams like 15 though
[10:26] <maniheer> so pastebin it and let us make sure
[10:26] <ziroday> davidryder: then join both channels :)
[10:26] <plouffe> Thanks
[10:27] <MAdWizard`> Now back to todays issues, the 64 bit drivers
[10:27] <rski> what about them
[10:27] <slytherin> crazy_bus: what two programs do you want to use?
[10:27] <MAdWizard`> This motherbaord has a nVidia chipset, and yes nVidia wrote drivers for linux
[10:28] <marcustomized> MAdWizard, you dont really need drivers for anything besides graphics cards and obscure sound cards
[10:28] <plouffe> ziroday, I just checked that file (menu.lst). Apparently it is not being used. How can I make sure that the menu.lst on this partition is used and not another?
[10:28] <marcustomized> if u intend on jus using ubuntu as a headless server, u can use the "vesa" driver or the "nv" driver
[10:29] <crazy_bus> slytherin: cheese to record the video and either skype or ekiga
[10:29] <ziroday> plouffe: what do you mean its not being used? Is the file empty?
[10:29] <MAdWizard`> marcus, reading through the tons of stuff it told me to get full use of the AMD Atrhalon dual core, I need the 64 bit drivers
[10:29] <plouffe> No the entries are different, It must be using hte menu.lst from another partition
[10:29] <crazy_bus> slytherin: as I can't find a program which will record a received webcam conversation on the other end
[10:29] <Datenshi33> Hi there
[10:29] <rski> MAdWizard`: you really should install 64bit ubuntu instead, less hasstle
[10:29] <slytherin> plouffe: why do you think that file is not being used?
[10:30] <MAdWizard`> rski, is that a driverset or OS?
[10:30] <rski> MAdWizard`: also you really don't gain much upgrading to 64bit
[10:30] <ziroday> plouffe: are you running multiple linux distro's?
[10:30] <plouffe> ziroday, I did a test install on another partition, but I am not using that partition anymore. So I need to make sure it's using this partition's boot files before I delete the other partition
[10:30] <marcustomized> 64 bit drivers will b preinstalled as well if u use the 64bit ubuntu disc
[10:30] <rski> MAdWizard`: you have 32bit ubuntu installed from a 32bit ubuntu cd there is also a 64bit ubuntu install cd with 64bit ubuntu
[10:30] <ziroday> !grub > plouffe
[10:30] <MAdWizard`> Ok I used a XP Ubuntu installer
[10:30] <slytherin> crazy_bus: cheese used gstreamer as backend. So if gstreamer doesn't lock the webcam you should be able to use it with skype or ekiga.
[10:30] <Maber> how do i add a user which only has access over the network but cannot login to the desktop?
[10:31] <ziroday> plouffe: those links will help you
[10:31] <MAdWizard`> I could not get the CDs I burned to install
[10:31] <ziroday> Maber: what would that user be doing?
[10:31] <plouffe> ok thanks
[10:31] <marcustomized> Maber, I don't think you can do that
[10:31] <Maber> he shall have specific access to some folders
[10:31] <putra_k> generatioan_sky
[10:32] <ziroday> marcustomized: its linux, you can do everything.
[10:32] <marcustomized> :O
[10:32] <mart> maber, do u mean to access ssh but not running xserver?
[10:32] <ziroday> Maber: so he can't login? what do you mean by that specifically?
[10:32] <marcustomized> okay, do tell, cuz i'd like to know
[10:32] <crazy_bus> slytherin: so if I load cheese first it should work?  Or does gstreamer need a option to not lock the webcam
[10:32] <MAdWizard`> ok how can I find out what version and bit set on Ubuntu I am using??
[10:33] <slytherin> crazy_bus: no idea. never experimented this.
[10:33] <MAdWizard`> of Ubuntu
[10:33] <MAdWizard`> sheesh
[10:33] <marcustomized> MadWizard, which disk did u download?
[10:33] <rski> MAdWizard`: lsb -a i think
[10:33] <slytherin> Maber: I suppose you don't want the use to be part of GDM group. But I am not sure.
[10:33] <bazhang> !version
[10:33] <rski> ah
[10:34] <MAdWizard`> marcus, I used a windows XP installer it did tell what version I was getting
[10:34] <davidryder> i have a question... i have a usb mp3 player... any ideas what to use to detect it or use it?
[10:34] <rski> davidryder: plug it in?
[10:34] <davidryder> it isnt' detected automatically from what i can tell
[10:34] <rski> um ok
[10:34] <rski> might wanna try rockbox
[10:34] <MAdWizard`> not lsb -a for the version
[10:34] <ziroday> davidryder: does it appear as just a normal usb driver?
[10:34] <ziroday> *drive
[10:35] <mart> davidryder, u have to mount it
[10:35] <davidryder> ziroday: it isn't mounting automatically
[10:35] <slytherin> davidryder: what player is it?
[10:35] <mart> does it show up in nautilus?
[10:35] <davidryder> mart: no... i am looking at /dev but i am not sure which it is
[10:36] <Maber> e.g.: i have an ubuntu server. this server has two network shares (smb) user1 and user2. i want to create user1 with read/write access to user1 dir but not user2 to write in user1 dir. but this users shall not be permitted to login to the desktop, because they dont need a home directory etc
[10:36] <MAdWizard`> marcus I used Wubildr to install Ubuntu
[10:36] <mart> but does it show as folder in /media?
[10:37] <slytherin> davidryder: you didn't tell us which player is it
[10:37] <davidryder> mart: the only thing that i don't recognize in /media is tdm
[10:37] <Cow_Dstro_fs> ghgh
[10:37] <davidryder> but it's contents is empty
[10:37] <zer0_> hi2
[10:37] <rski> hi3
[10:38] <mart> so that's not ur mp3...
[10:38] <mart> then u have to mount it
[10:38] <zer0_> discuss  ubuntu here??can i?
[10:38] <davidryder> yes zer0_ :D
[10:38] <alkaliv2> I updated my Bios and now bios will not boot.  Am I as bad off as I think I am?
[10:39] <ziroday> alkaliv2: yes.
[10:39] <zer0_> gud..i looking for ubuntu fix solution
[10:39] <davidryder> alkaliv2: do you have a removable eprom on your mobo?
[10:39] <davidryder> zer0_:  what's the problem?
[10:39] <alkaliv2> davidryder, I don't believe so
[10:39] <zer0_> let me tell u my story
[10:39] <erUSUL> alkaliv2: probably yes... does your mobo has a backup bios (dual bios or something like that)
[10:40] <davidryder> alkaliv2: i did the same thing and asus sent me a replacement eprom, it was just replacing a chip. if your bios chip is removeable you will have to get a new mobo
[10:40] <paul68> is there a good program that I can use to do a full system backup and be able to restore a complete system when needed?
[10:40] <davidryder> isn't*
[10:40] <bazhang> !backup
[10:40] <davidryder> nice!
[10:40] <zer0_> i installed ubuntu with wubi installer on local disk D(/ntfs/8gb)..i enable nvidia driver n i got problem
[10:40] <alkaliv2> erUSUL, if by some miracle it did, where would I look for that?
[10:41] <slytherin> davidryder: does your player support MTP mode. Check if it is in MTP mode instead of usb mass storage mode.
[10:41] <erUSUL> alkaliv2: mobo manual ?
[10:41] <kwtm> how come my vim doesn't show coloured syntax highlighting?  Is there some setting I need to set?
[10:41] <simon49> #sikelo
[10:41] <simon49> #sikelo
[10:41] <paul68> which from these backup programs are newby proof
[10:41] <simon49> #sikelo
[10:41] <FloodBot1> simon49: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:41] <alkaliv2> erUSUL, I guess that was a foolish question.  Sorry
[10:41] <simon49> #sikelo
[10:41] <erUSUL> kwtm: yep by i do not remember it right now
[10:41] <Naamakauhu> Hey, I'm installing ubuntu atm. Just wondering if I'd like to keep my windows and install ubuntu for the 50gb free space am I supposed to create a partition and choose Primary or Logical and beginning or end? Dont take me wrong, I'm just pretty new with this stuff
[10:41] <simon49> #sikelo
[10:41] <davidryder> zer0_: everyone has different experiences with wubi but mine was not good. i ended up uninstalling it and creating a dual-boot system. because it's a virtual environment and it's also a new project disk reliability is low
[10:41] <bazhang> simon49, please stop
[10:41] <simon49> #sikelo
[10:42] <erUSUL> !ops | simon49
[10:42] <Symmetria> hrm
[10:42] <slytherin> kwtm: do you have vim-full installed? After that you need to add option 'syntax on' to ~/.vimrc file
[10:42] <Symmetria> is there a live cd version of ubuntu anywhere?
[10:42] <simon49> #sikelo
[10:42] <davidryder> slytherin: i don't think it has that support... it's actually a phone
[10:42] <kwtm> erUSUL: Thanks for the hint; at least I know.  Remember if it was some config file?
[10:42] <kwtm> slytherin: Thanks!  WIll try.
[10:42] <slytherin> davidryder: which phone?
[10:42] <erUSUL> Symmetria: the default desktop iso is livecd
[10:42] <zer0_> i cant install with live cd..eroor with initramfs
[10:42] <Symmetria> er, oh, didnt know that, will go pull that
[10:42] <davidryder> slytherin: but in windows in rhapsody it detects it... no special software needed. although i did install drivers for it.
[10:42] <davidryder> Motorola V750
[10:42] <erUSUL> kwtm: see slytherin response to you
[10:42] <paul68> which from these backup programs is newby proof
[10:43] <lee_> snrn
[10:43] <lee_> djqtskdy
[10:43] <lee_> gksrmfdl dkscuwudy
[10:43] <lee_> gksrmfdl dkscuwjdy bb
[10:43] <kwtm> erUSUL: I did see; am trying.  Thx!
[10:43] <davidryder> paul68: there is a way to tar your /home folder. no special software needed. if you have to reinstall you can just restore your /home folder and whatever packages you installed and it will be back to normal
[10:44] <pengo> why does the Stopmotion application suck so much?
[10:44] <davidryder> paul68: there is no registry in linux so it's just a matter of backing up settings files
[10:44] <mart> paul68, i'd recommend using simplebackup
[10:44] <smidge> pengo: great question
[10:44] <mart> it's gui, easy to use with hella features
[10:45] <pengo> smidge: it crashes on me whenever i try to open jpgs
[10:45] <pengo> and now i am sad.
[10:45] <pengo> and without my claymation
[10:45] <davidryder> are most people here on the ubuntuforums?
[10:45] <davidryder> this damn room moves about as fast as the forum it seems
[10:45] <Cow_Dstro_fs> #surabay
[10:45] <mart> man, there's hella people overhere
[10:46] <jpds> davidryder: #ubuntuforums
[10:46] <mart> that's why noone reply my thread
[10:46] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/product+Motorola_V750?id=2480 davidryder
[10:46] <davidryder> jpds: i am using pidgin and i don't know how to join new rooms
[10:46] <alkaliv2> would clearing the cmos help at all?
[10:46] <davidryder> i tried /join but nothing happened
[10:46] <Maber> thanks slytherin, i think it was the gdm group, i will try it :)
[10:46] <paul68> thanks davidryder and mart
[10:46] <ziroday> davidryder: type /j #ubuntuforums
[10:46] <smidge> pengo: does it give any output when it crashes?
[10:47] <mart> davidryder, use xchart much simplier
[10:47] <kwtm> slytherin: erUSUL: Well, it turns out I *hadn't* installed vim-full!  Geez, no wonder!
[10:47] <davidryder> ziroday: thanks!
[10:47] <pengo> smidge: i'll try from a prompt
[10:47] <zetheroo-ubuntu> can emerald themes work in Ubuntu 7.10 without compiz being enabled?
[10:47] <erUSUL> kwtm: ;P
[10:47] <slytherin> kwtm: no, wonder it is not installed by default.
[10:47] <davidryder> bazhang: thanks... i tried that page but there seems to be no information
[10:47] <slytherin> zetheroo-ubuntu: you can try
[10:48] <kwtm> slytherin: erUSUL: It wanted to install vim-gnome, and I didn't think I needed the GUI version (I use KDE, so I figured I didn't want it)
[10:48] <zetheroo-ubuntu> slytherin : ha ... I know I can try ... but if someone knew it could not be done then it would save me time and effort
[10:48] <pengo> smidge: *** glibc detected *** stopmotion: free(): invalid pointer: 0xb5b515c0 ***
[10:49] <smidge> cheers, just looking around, it seems stopmotion is pretty buggy on ubuntu in general
[10:49] <smidge> or at least on gnome based systems...
[10:49] <slytherin> smidge: file bug
[10:50] <mart> anyone know if xubuntu could be install over ubuntu? does it reflects each other?
[10:50] <mart> and how about uninstalling it?
[10:51] <vallhalla81> !wm
[10:51] <davidryder> mart: won't installing it overwrite all of your files?
[10:51] <mart> no it isn't, just new packages
[10:51] <slytherin> mart: just install xubuntu-desktop package, it will pull in everything that is present in xubuntu. You can then select which session to login to from the login screen
[10:52] <mart> slythering, thanks but i want to know if xubuntu change the default app as well, such as office and other stuff
[10:52] <vallhalla81> mart: you can install it at the same time and just select it in the in sessions menu at the login screen
[10:52] <mart> but don't xfce apps take conflicts with gnome?
[10:53] <paul68> is there a way that I can move my mails from thunderbird under windows to my linux?
[10:53] <pengo> stopmotion (the app) doesn't really do much for me anyway
[10:53] <slytherin> mart: no it won't change default apps.
[10:53] <slytherin> mart: and there is no conflict with any of the apps.
[10:53] <mart> paul68, just copy the profle folders
[10:53] <pengo> might as well just run mencoder
[10:53] <pengo> bye
[10:53] <smidge> lol
[10:53] <mart> syltherin, thx just want to make sure
[10:54] <paul68> mart thanks
[10:54] <slytherin> paul68: copy the files inside the profile folder on windows to the profile folder in ubuntu.
[10:54] <mart> paul68, but u might have some problems with add ons.. just reinstall those
[10:54] <mart> it should be fine
[10:56] <peter__> Hi. I've just built a custom kernel. I've already installed the .deb, but the terminal on which is was built has yet to give back input. It just says "This is kernel package version 11.001." . Is everything ok? Thanks.
[10:56] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "The DEB program package 'console-setup' provides the Linux console with the same versatile keyboard configuration that X Window uses." What is 'the Linux console'?
[10:56] <Marcius> Bonjour
[10:57] <mart> peter, just curious, what's the diff between building custom kernel and the ready one
[10:57] <bazhang> Marcius, /join #ubuntu-fr
[10:57] <peter__> mart: I needed support for additional serial ports. It seems to be the only way
[10:57] <Marcius> thanks
[10:58] <paul68> I've installed simplebackup and it's running in the background and safe the backup on location ssh root@myserver/backup_laptop/ but  I don't see the directory appearing is this normal?
[10:58] <mart> peter__, so custom could do it?
[10:58] <mart> paul68, which option u use?
[10:58] <paul68> or should I have used the : first
[10:58] <peter__> mart: Yes. There may be a simpler way, theree really should be, but I'm not aware of it
[10:59] <mart> peter__ , i got some ideas now,,, i'll check it out
[10:59] <paul68> mart I just selected use remote directory
[10:59] <peter__> I'm booting the custom kernel for the first time.....so far, so good.
[10:59] <what_if> I cannot set DMA on or 32bit IO on for my hard drive. Errors with HDIO_SET_32BIT failed and HDIO_GET_DMA failed. wtf ??
[10:59] <smidge> peter__ would the setserial package be of any help?
[11:00] <mart> paul68, via ssh/ftp?
[11:00] <peter__> smidge: No. I tried it. couldn'tget it to work that way
[11:00] <smidge> :9 bugger
[11:00] <paul68> yes via ssh
[11:01] <peter__> smidge: It works! Eureka!
[11:01] <peter__> smidge: I was working on it all week.
[11:01] <mart> paul68, then it should be fine... for the first option it take hella time
[11:02] <smidge> lol
[11:02] <mart> and it runs in background, u could only  notice the cpu percentage, paul68
[11:02] <paul68> mart ok but why don't I see the directory appear on my server?
[11:02] <mart> peter_, how do i get one too? is there any template i could download or i have to build from scratch?
[11:03] <mart> i want to try it out
[11:03] <Lofde_2> hey will someone hit this website and make sure i have apache working http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:03] <smidge> hahha trolling?
[11:03] <mart> paul68, is ur pc still loading? i mean hd and cpu?
[11:04] <smidge> Lofde_2: sorry to doubt, it works.
[11:04] <peter__> mart: Don't assume that it's going to have any benefit.
[11:05] <paul68> cpu is busy network almost idle
[11:05] <peter__> mart: that said, I did this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile . I did it the "old fashioned debian way", which worked well and was easy
[11:05] <Lofde_2> smidge,  trolling? nah haha
[11:05] <mart> then it's still working, look up the tar file, paul68
[11:06] <smidge> yeah, I used wget on the url in case you were hoping to spam me with cock porn
[11:06] <Lofde_2> smidge,  i just wanted to make sure i had setup passthrough from my router correctly
[11:06] <paul68> where should it be located at this point? and is the ssh transfer only done when the backup is finished or am I wrong to usume this?
[11:06] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "The DEB program package 'console-setup' provides the Linux console with the same versatile keyboard configuration that X Window uses." What is 'the Linux console'?
[11:06] <bazhang> smidge, please keep it family friendly
[11:07] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: the problem was i was using PulseAudio or autodetect wherever i needed audio, and by switching everything to alsa, the audio worked. the problem with the color was the hue balance needed to be on maximum because nvidia reverses the defaults for some reason.. then the stuttering video was the lag from the defecting audio... does that all seem to make sense??? it all works fine now... : )
[11:07] <mart> let's say u chose /var/backup then i'll be /var/backup/2008-10-02_19.58blablabla.ful
[11:07] <erUSUL> bullgard4: Alt + crtl + f1
[11:07] <smidge> bullgard: i would imagine they are referring to the tty consoles, i,e, the ones you get with control-alt-F1 etc
[11:08] <mart> paul68, it's actually a *.ful extension
[11:08] <bullgard4> erUSUL:  Alt + crtl + f1 is not the Linux console.
[11:08] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: yes, didn't strike me before that it could be pulseaudio problem. I am glad it is working for you now.
[11:09] <xjohnthomasx> slytherin: only slight hitch now, i wonder if i can get my flash video playback on internet to go any smoother.. sometimes there are very faint lines from video playback, as if the refresh rate is somehow slightly out of sync..
[11:09] <BWGames> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/208695 - i'm experiencing that bug, but running apt-get -t hardy-proposed install mysql-server-5.0 doesn't work either. any suggestions?
[11:10] <erUSUL> bullgard4: reconfiguring console-setup let you choose the font and other properties of the tty consoles accessed by Crtl + alt + functionkey
[11:10] <smidge> erUSUL is correct
[11:10] <slytherin> xjohnthomasx: can't help you there, don't watch many flash videos.
[11:10]  * slytherin has to go
[11:10] <paul68> **checking***
[11:13] <what_if> My system is reverting to UDMA33 saying that it detects a 40-wire cable, but an 80 wire is installed. HD and chipset support UDMA4 / ata100 .  See kernel output here. http://pastebin.ca/1218846
[11:14] <what_if> pls help. system is painfully slow
[11:14] <jitu3485> I am not able to update /etc/resolv.conf (ubuntu hardy 8.04).
[11:14] <DIFH-iceroot> jitu3485: use sudo
[11:14] <DIFH-iceroot> jitu3485: sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf
[11:14] <erUSUL> what_if: have you checked that the cables are firmly plugged? if so then you encounter a kernel bug... report it
[11:14] <erUSUL> !bugs | what_if
[11:15] <paul68> @mart I can't find a *.full extention and in var/backup no new entries  however neither in var/backups/
[11:15] <jitu3485> i did sudo vim /etc/resolv.conf updated the file and then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart; after this the updated DNS are not in the file
[11:16] <Willex> hello?
[11:16] <davidryder> hi
[11:16] <marlun> Can I restart gnome-panel if i seem to have closed it? It hung so I did killall gnome-panel since that usually restarts it but I did int from terminal (ctrl-alt-1) and now it won't come back even though i restarted gnome (ctrl-alt-backspace).
[11:17] <paul68> mart I know it gave me a jobnr that runs in the background how can I check that it's still running?
[11:17] <paul68> but don't remember the jobnr silly me
[11:17] <davidryder> marlun: gnome-panel &
[11:17] <what_if> erUSUL : hmmm the cable is backwards... blue is in the drive. that may be the prob, lol.
[11:17] <s3v> paul68: try typing 'bg' in the console, it will list the current background jobs
[11:18] <smidge> you can check if it was killed or not with pidof gnome-panel
[11:18] <marlun> davidryder: that was easy enough :) should have known, thanks!
[11:18] <bullgard4> erUSUL: This may be. But you did not answer my question: "What is 'the Linux console'?"
[11:18] <paul68> no output at this point mart
[11:18] <Willex> newbies can make questions here without people getting mad at you? :D
[11:18] <bazhang> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html bullgard4
[11:18] <bainan> ubuntu has little contribution for the linux  kernel
[11:19] <erUSUL> bullgard4: it is the linux terminal when you do not have X windows you have only the terminal/console
[11:19] <Guinnesss> Who gets mad? That not nice.
[11:19] <bazhang> bainan, this is ubuntu support; do you have a support question
[11:19] <amygdala> Hello! I am trying and trying to get back automounting of my cd/dvd, but no luck! Anyone willing to help?!?
[11:20] <bullgard4> erUSUL: No, your answer is not correct. When I have no X windows I still have a computer.
[11:20] <paul68> mart no jobs running in the background
[11:20] <bazhang> bullgard4, please see my link
[11:20] <erUSUL> bullgard4: yes you have a computer that interfaces with you via a console/terminal
[11:21] <smidge> bullgard4: http://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+linux+console%3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[11:21] <erUSUL> bullgard4: console/terminal ==> monitor + keyboard/mouse
[11:21] <bullgard4> bazhang: I am just reading the document which you provided.
[11:22] <bazhang> bullgard4, we are volunteers. please be nicer.
[11:22] <Guinnesss> I just installed iTunes in wine and then I realized that in fact I like amarok better. Seriously!
[11:23] <davidryder> bullgard4: why did you switch to linux?
[11:23] <davidryder> bullgard4: it's a community, you know?
[11:23] <amygdala> Anyone willing to help to get back automounting of my cd/dvd?!?
[11:23] <davidryder> amygdala: you know the device name?
[11:23] <Willex> I have a FreeAgent Pro external hdd formatted with NTFS and Ubuntu won't read it. Do I have to reformat it with something else or is there another way that doesn't destroy all my data?
[11:24] <pprett> \whois andyeb_
[11:24] <pprett> \WHOIS
[11:24] <pprett> asd
[11:25] <amygdala> davidryder: Well, in my fstab, the line is: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[11:25] <pprett> \QUIT test
[11:25] <bazhang> pprett, please stop
[11:25] <zeno> is there a way to download all the debs needed for another deb?  i have a computer i need build-essential on but no internet conn
[11:26] <mEck0> hi! how can I boot ubuntu with runlevel 3 instead of 5 (i.e. without X)? is it possible by choose "recovery mode" from grub menu or is it another thing?
[11:26] <Aaqil>  i share folder from my hard, when i restart PC it closes my sharing and i have to re share every time :(
[11:26] <erUSUL> mEck0: if you need to do recovery tasks. use recovery mode
[11:26] <davidryder> amygdala: try sudo mount /dev/scd0
[11:27] <chocohoof> good morning
[11:27] <_haywire_> what's good about it?
[11:27] <smidge> mEck0: is this for everyday use or just for fixing?
[11:27] <mEck0> erUSUL: I don't need to do recovery stuff
[11:27] <phyteg> hi
[11:27] <mEck0> smidge: I want to check some stuff without running X, not for everyday use
[11:27] <erUSUL> mEck0: if you only want to disasble X windows "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[11:27] <amygdala> davidryder: I can do that, no problem. But automount is not working -- Nautilus just stopped opening content of the cd/dvd.
[11:27] <smidge> pop open a terminal and bust out: sudo init 1
[11:28] <smidge> you get a single user non x console
[11:28] <davidryder> amygdala: what happens when you manually mount?
[11:28] <smidge> then init 3 will return you to xwindows
[11:28] <Daft_Punk> how can i change the font of the menus such as file>settings etc (see screenshot, you will see the _normal_ fonts) http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot23hr9.png
[11:28] <erUSUL> mEck0: if you want that to be permanent (every boot with no X) "sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove"
[11:29] <mEck0> erUSUL: ok, thx, will try it. I was wondering since ubuntu 8.04 which I'm running, don't have a /etc/inittab where you otherwise could change runlevel
[11:29] <mEck0> erUSUL: ah, thx!!
[11:29] <erUSUL> mEck0: no it has not. it uses upstart not Sytem V init
[11:29] <amygdala> davidryder: Then, icon appear on the Desktop. And there is a note that it is read-only, which is ok!
[11:30] <mEck0> erUSUL: ah, I see
[11:30] <erUSUL> mEck0: but anyway on debian/ubuntu all runlevels are equal (except 0-1-6 of course)
[11:30] <erUSUL> mEck0: it is not like in RH/fedora or other distros
[11:30] <Aaqil> hi i deleted some files from my USB drive then i un plugged my USB but my trash is having still files , i cant empty my trash when i do it still consists the files of my usb :(
[11:30] <mEck0> erUSUL: okay, but why have different runlevels if they are equal then?
[11:31] <chocohoof> when i try to maximize any video/picture window, it exits why is this happening?
[11:31] <smidge> chocohoof: what software?
[11:31] <erUSUL> mEck0: well somebody may want to teawk the runlevels and make them different.. they are no different by default but you can configure them
[11:31] <mboman> how do I switch the default Java to Sun JDK 1.5?
[11:31] <chocohoof> all of it
[11:31] <chocohoof> totem
[11:32] <chocohoof> gimp photo viewer
[11:32] <chocohoof> VLC
[11:32] <Daft_Punk> how can i change the font of the menus such as file>settings etc (see screenshot, you will see the _normal_ fonts) http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot23hr9.png
[11:32] <mEck0> erUSUL: then I understand, thx for the info
[11:32] <chocohoof> Mplayer
[11:32] <erUSUL> mboman: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:32] <smidge> hrmmm running compiz at all?
[11:32] <Daft_Punk> smidge, uh ya
[11:33] <chocohoof> yes, but i tried to maximize when compiz wasn't running, and it's the same
[11:33] <smidge> arr okies, can you open a terminal and run totem or something similar and maximize it and see if there is output?
[11:33] <rsc-> Daft_Punk, that's kde's domain. use kcontrol center
[11:33] <chocohoof> i try:D
[11:33] <Daft_Punk> rsc-, but im not using kde?
[11:34] <rsc-> Daft_Punk, you're not using kde but that's a kde app
[11:34] <mboman> erUSUL: thanks
[11:34] <rsc-> hence why it clashes against your gtk apps
[11:34] <Daft_Punk> rsc-, so that app will let me change fonts for the menus?
[11:34] <rsc-> yes, kcontrol
[11:35] <Daft_Punk> rsc-, thx
[11:36] <kaddy> any new word on what the final theme for ibex looks like yet?
[11:36] <kaddy> screenshots?
[11:37] <davidryder> kaddy: it will most likely be unattractive compared to the current them
[11:37] <smidge> lol isn
[11:37] <kaddy> haha. well, i've always thought that ubuntu was unattractive
[11:37] <kaddy> can't get much worse
[11:37] <davidryder> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863158
[11:37] <smidge> i dunno, i hear the scientists have unlocked 30 new shades of brown just for this release
[11:38] <bazhang> !ot
[11:38] <Indoctrine> I don't like the Ubuntu themes. So much BROWN
[11:38] <kaddy> HAHAHHAHAHHA
[11:38] <kaddy> That is fkn funny!
[11:38] <rski> mmmmmmmmm brownies
[11:38] <kaddy> LOLLLLZ
[11:38] <zeno> I have ndiswrapper installed and it lists my card, but after sudo depmod -a;sudo modprobe ndiswrapper it says FATAL: module ndiswrapper not found.  how to fix?
[11:38] <bazhang> kaddy, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid; #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[11:38] <kaddy> wtf?
[11:39] <kaddy> kaddy, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid; #ubuntu-offtopic for chat?
[11:39] <bazhang> kaddy, please stop
[11:39] <kaddy> english please
[11:39] <smidge> quick kaddy, pretend your cd is busted or something
[11:39] <kaddy> stop what?
[11:39] <rsc-> Indoctrine, if you dont like the Ubuntu default, why dont you try one of the alternate themes?
[11:39] <rsc-> Indoctrine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme
[11:39] <rsc-> kaddy, Ibex will use same ol' Human
[11:40] <rsc-> kaddy, Ibex will use same ol' Human
[11:40] <davidryder> one thing i will say about the themes: who doesn't tweak their themes???!?!
[11:40] <davidryder> i don't understand all the fuss over the themes when i don't know anyone who uses the default theme in any OS
[11:41] <Indoctrine> rsc-: I make my own
[11:41] <rsc-> davidryder, everyone I know uses default themes.
[11:41] <rsc-> on Mac/win/linux
[11:41] <davidryder> reall??
[11:41] <rsc-> davidryder, there are a lot of people who don't know how to, you know :)
[11:41] <Daft_Punk> rsc-, thanks for that info, but the only thing i cant seem to change is my "applications, places, system" menus...
[11:41] <bazhang> please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:41] <davidryder> i don't disbelieve, i just couldn't imagine
[11:42] <smidge> ...and then it all ran amok
[11:42] <davidryder> sorry bazhang
[11:42] <davidryder> :D
[11:42] <mhgchgcftdytd> please i need help i have no sound on my laptop (hardy heron) fresh install, (it used to work before as I have used ubuntu on it)
[11:42] <rsc-> Daft_Punk, what do you want to do with it?
[11:42] <rsc-> Indoctrine, that's nice. :)
[11:42] <Daft_Punk> rsc-, make the font different
[11:42] <davidryder> mhgchgcftdytd: go to System|Preferences|Sound and change everything to ALSA
[11:42] <rsc-> Daft_Punk, it follows the font for the "application font" setting in your appearance dialog
[11:43] <mhgchgcftdytd> i dont have internet connection for long as i my gonna take a boat ride to Korea, its 22 hours long, so i wanna watch some movies
[11:43] <mboman> how can I check what package owns a particular file? in RPM talk it's: rpm -qf /path/to/file
[11:43] <mhgchgcftdytd> ok please give me more instructions
[11:43] <smidge> sudo apt-get install apt-file
[11:43] <rsc-> mbamford, dpkg -S /usr/bin/ls
[11:43] <davidryder> mhgchgcftdytd: after that try killall 9 pulseaudio
[11:43] <smidge> then apt-file search FILENAME
[11:43] <rsc-> mboman, dpkg -S /usr/bin/ls
[11:43] <mhgchgcftdytd> yes everything is ALSA
[11:44] <davidryder> mhgchgcftdytd: it's in the system menu
[11:44] <davidryder> oh
[11:44] <Daft_Punk> rsc-, i dont see application font on kcontrol
[11:44] <rsc-> Daft_Punk, not kcontrol, of course.
[11:44] <rsc-> Daft_Punk, system - preferences - appearance
[11:44] <davidryder> mhgchgcftdytd: try changing to OSS?
[11:44] <mhgchgcftdytd> mozart@cybercafe:~$ killall 9 pulseaudio
[11:44] <mhgchgcftdytd> 9: no process killed
[11:44] <mboman> rsc-: thanks
[11:44] <rsc-> killall -9
[11:44] <rsc-> not killall 9
[11:44] <smidge>  mhgchgcftdytd: what laptop? brand/model
[11:45] <Daft_Punk> rsc-, thank you :)
[11:45] <davidryder> mhgchgcftdytd: what program are you trying to watch movies in?
[11:45] <mhgchgcftdytd> sorry no that did not work
[11:46] <mhgchgcftdytd> here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=937526
[11:46] <mhgchgcftdytd> Hardy Heron 8.04
[11:46] <mhgchgcftdytd> DELL Inspiron 6400/1505e, 2 GB Ram, Intel CoreDuo T2500 @ 2.00GHz
[11:46] <mhgchgcftdytd> ATi X1400 (1680x1050 widescreen) 128MB, Intel 3945 PRO/Wireless, 120GB
[11:46] <rsc-> argh. more pulseaudio problems :P
[11:46] <mhgchgcftdytd> VLC
[11:46] <mhgchgcftdytd> I watch movies in VLC
[11:47] <rsc-> sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-pulse
[11:47] <mhgchgcftdytd> or any movie player i dont mind
[11:47] <rsc-> under VLC prefs, make sure you select pulseaudio as the output
[11:47] <mhgchgcftdytd> vlc-plugin-pulse is already the newest version.
[11:47] <mhgchgcftdytd> vlc-plugin-pulse set to manually installed.
[11:47] <mhgchgcftdytd> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:48] <mhgchgcftdytd> i get sound in firefox with youtube
[11:48] <frybye> rsc-: when you are free - i also have a vlc question...
[11:48] <mhgchgcftdytd> but no other sounds
[11:48] <Symmetria> hrm, for some reason hardy doesnt like my display card
[11:48] <rsc-> mhgchgcftdytd, select pulseaudio as your output type on VLC's audio preferences
[11:49] <rsc-> frybye, i'm no expert, but just ask your question here in the channel
 what card?
[11:49] <mhgchgcftdytd> ok where do i find it?
[11:49] <mhgchgcftdytd> i am in preferences
[11:50] <frybye> well it is a bit OT here cos I am on intrepid-beta... may be a general vlc prob though.. I try to use vlc for iptv but the picture is a mess - and I dont know how to config...?
[11:50] <Symmetria> nvidia 7300 GT
[11:50] <Symmetria> when I boot off the live cd I don't get a useable display
[11:50] <frybye> i have nvidia 8400gs with prop. nvidia driver... working ok otherwise...
[11:50] <bazhang> frybye, #ubuntu+1 for that
[11:50] <Symmetria> it works if I boot in safe video mode
[11:50] <smidge> define don't get a useable display?
[11:51] <frybye> bazhang: have been asking there for about 12 hours..
[11:51] <Symmetria> smidge as in, I get a bunch of green dotted lines everywhere
[11:51] <lalada> !ubuntu
[11:51] <Symmetria> and cant see squat :)
[11:51] <bazhang> frybye, that is the correct channel not here.
[11:51] <rsc-> mhgchgcftdytd, sorry i dont have vlc 0.8 installed here so i cant check
[11:51] <mhgchgcftdytd> hmm please where do i select pulseaudio as your output type on VLC's audio preferences
[11:51] <frybye> as u like..
[11:51] <Symmetria> heh, will try the intrepid beta cd, its got a newer driver, that or try gutsy
[11:52] <smidge> awesome <Symmetria>, which livecd version?
[11:52] <mhgchgcftdytd> i really dont care about VLC i just want sound on my video please, i have a 22 hour ferry ride
[11:52] <Symmetria> smidge hardy
[11:52] <mhgchgcftdytd> I just wanna watch movies with sound
[11:53] <Daft_Punk> rsc-, thanks for your help, everything worked perfect
[11:55] <mhgchgcftdytd> please tell me what to do http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=937526 i am getting no sounds even on the example file included with ubuntu in the home folder
[11:55] <rsc-> mhgchgcftdytd, just set your vlc's output to pulseaudio :)
[11:55] <mhgchgcftdytd> ok where
[11:55] <mhgchgcftdytd> i tried looking for it
[11:55] <rsc-> audio.
[11:55] <traskeee> mhgchgcftdytd: if your in a hurry id install loads of players and try em out 1 by 1 mplayer be the first
[11:55] <rsc-> i guess
[11:56] <mhgchgcftdytd> i did try
[11:56] <chocohoof> how can i run a program from terminal?:$
[11:56] <rsc-> audio -> output modules
[11:56] <rsc-> audio output module:
[11:56] <rsc-> audio output module: pulseaudio audio output
[11:56] <rsc-> ...save.
[11:56] <rsc-> make sure "advanced options" is checked before that
[11:56] <Indoctrine> chocohoof: What are you trying to run?
[11:57] <chocohoof> totem
[11:57] <traskeee> chocohoof: write its name and press enter, if you want to make sure it recognize it just type in the first few letters and press tab for suggestions
[11:57] <rsc-> chocohoof, just type "totem" without quotes, then press enter.
[11:57] <mhgchgcftdytd> ok that did work
[11:57] <chocohoof> thanx
[11:58] <rsc-> mhgchgcftdytd, you got sound from your videos now?
[11:58] <mhgchgcftdytd> yes only VLC TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTThank you very much :)
[11:58] <Cheeky> can anyone tell me how i can write php scripts in my ubuntu server using ged it ..i have another computer that i ssh into the server box and write my code in the using nano via ssh ..but i want to write my scripts in gedit something syntax highlighting any suggestions?
[11:58] <mhgchgcftdytd> i wonder why the others are not working
[11:59] <rski> Cheeky: try man gedit
[11:59] <Cheeky> rski: i know how to used gefit ..but its gui app doesnt run on cli in the seerver edition
[12:00] <eight> Cheeky: vim
[12:00] <s3v> Cheeky: you can tunnel X window applications through ssh
[12:01] <Cheeky> s3v: wat do i need to set up in order to do that . i would like to use gedit as you can tab through scripts
[12:01] <s3v> Cheeky: i have no knowledge of the correct syntax, but this should put you on your way https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[12:02] <s3v> Cheeky: look for the section https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto#Running GUI Programs
[12:03] <s3v> Cheeky: you can even do this from a windows box using putty and Xming...
[12:03] <kk_ubuntu> hello all, I am want to know if there is a comprehensive guide on how to re master ubuntu hardy?  I also want to have different logo and also make some changes to the list of softwares.
[12:04] <bazhang> !remaster | kk_ubuntu
[12:04] <abli> Hi! are there netinst images for the server version? I assume that the images linked from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD are for the desktop version (even if that is not mentioned on that page)
[12:05] <Cheeky> s3v: i dont quit follow
[12:05] <ph> hi everyone
[12:05] <Dextorion> hey ph
[12:06] <ph> i'd need some help, i just did a little mistake
[12:06] <s3v> Cheeky: if you can run gedit on your server, then do this from a remote box: 'ssh -X user@server' and after you're logged in ''gedit &'
[12:07] <ph> i wanted to test sshfs, i didn't work cause i wasn't in the groupe fuse, i tried those commands : sudo usermod -G fuse ph, sudo adduser $USER fuse, i unlogged and relogged and now i only am in the group fuse
[12:08] <Cheeky> s3v: so i need to install sudo apt-get install gedit ?
[12:08] <Cheeky> s3v: and then remote ssh x ...
[12:08] <afief> ph, wouldn't it be easier to edit that from the users & groups interface?
[12:09] <s3v> Cheeky: if you are running a server edition that would mean you'd have to install X on the server too...
[12:09] <estan> hello. anyone know if libxml2-dbg was compiled with --with-mem-debug ?
[12:10] <Cheeky> s3v: when you talking about x ... are you refereing to gnome or kde?
[12:10] <ph> actually, the users and group interface freezes when i click on the unlock button
[12:10] <nnull> anyway to listen to like winamp shoutcasts (or shoutcasts in general not sure if they exclusivly for winamp) in ubuntu?
[12:10] <dooley_> Hey folks, quick question. Is it possible to revert to the original ubuntu kernel? Hopefully using apt. (Crosses fingers)
[12:10] <s3v> Cheeky: it doesn't matter as far as i know
[12:10] <s0me> hey everyone ) can u help me ?- how to do not to sort contacts by groups in pidgin?all my group are empty,so i cant see any contact(((
[12:10] <erUSUL> ph: usermod is a dangerous command as you have just found.... what was wrong with using System>Admin>User and groups ??
[12:11] <bartek> Hi there .. two pretty dumb questions. #1: I just downloaded a Linux app and untarred it in /usr/local/bin .. what is the OPTIMAL process on creating a link for it in my start menu / desktop?
[12:11] <phyteg> dooley_, you can easily install any kernel u want with synaptics
[12:11] <ph> as i say, when i click unlock, it freezes
[12:11] <s3v> Cheeky: you are actually running the program on your server, just as you would locally, but the output 'window' is displayed through the ssh tunnel on your remote computer
[12:11] <erUSUL> ph: boot into recovery mode and add your user to admin group so you can use sudo to fix the remaining issues on a normal session
[12:11] <rconan_> I'm trying to set up a VPN connection. I've added it to the list in the Configure VPN window but it doesn't appear to connect to
[12:12] <dooley_> Really? Cool what am I looking for then? Just the kernel-image and headers?
[12:12] <erUSUL> ph: use "adduser $USER admin"
[12:12] <s0me>  hey everyone ) can u help me ?- how to do not to sort contacts by groups in pidgin?all my group are empty,so i cant see any contact(((
[12:12] <jxander> hi there... i edited the fstab table, it mounts the partitions, but i don't have the rights to umount. i've put all the defaults options and instead of nouser i've put user. now i still cannot mount the ntfs partitions except when i'm root :-s
[12:12] <mecha> !cursors
[12:12] <ph> erUSUL: thanks
[12:12] <usuario_> oi, galera!
[12:12] <mecha> anyone know how to change a cursor?
[12:13] <ph> what other groups should i add next ?
[12:13] <phyteg> mecha:  System -> Preferences -> appearance
[12:13] <usuario_> tem algum  brasileiro ai
[12:13] <erUSUL> !br | usuario_
[12:14] <mindframe> should 1680x1050 work with the default ubuntu usplash theme?
[12:14] <usuario_> #ubuntu-br
[12:14] <ziroday> mindframe: yes
[12:14] <erUSUL> ph: well for a start add the users group and the one named like you. then use the gui to add the ones listed in the third tab
[12:14] <tab_shift> help, the command "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot" gives error "debian/rules: 3: include: not found" what could be the issue here ?
[12:15] <maniheer> hello
[12:15] <maniheer> :P
[12:16] <mecha> phyteg: where do i put the cursor files i downloaded?
[12:16] <mindframe> ziroday, so startup manager doesnt have an option for 1680x1050.  if i set it in /etc/usplash.conf how do i get the theme to use it?
[12:16] <ziroday> tab_shift: best asked in #ubuntu-motu
[12:17] <jxander> is this wrong? "/dev/sda1 /media/System ntfs rw,user,exec,dev,suid,auto,async 0 0" I just want to be able to mount and umount from a non-root user...
[12:17] <phyteg> mecha: what file type are they?
[12:17] <mecha> phyteg: images and index.theme
[12:17] <maniheer> i'm building my own livecd from scratch and wanted to know how config files that are supposed to be in the /home directory can go there in a livecd if there aren't any subs there
[12:17] <ziroday> mindframe: I am not sure, for me I just select the theme and it usually works itself out
[12:17] <kane77> where are the icons stored? (such as for firefox etc.)
[12:17] <usuario_> sou novo no xchat o seu não tem a opção #ubuntu-br, quem pode mi ajuda
[12:18] <maniheer> in /usr/share/pixmaps
[12:18] <ziroday> kane77: in either ~./icons or /usr/local/share/icons
[12:18] <phyteg> try Apperance -> install new theme
[12:18] <daedric> usuario_, manda
[12:18] <maniheer> or
[12:18] <erUSUL> usuario_: escribe "/join #ubuntu-br" sen comillas e dalle a enter
[12:18] <erUSUL> usuario_: pra ir o canle do Brasil
[12:19] <dooley_> From synaptic it looks like I have the standard linux kernel install but I have a modified one? Should i remove/install it again?
[12:19] <maniheer> did any1 notice my superbly long question with no commas
[12:19] <tellerium> hey folks, have a question about an installation
[12:20] <daedric> maniheer, i did
[12:20] <daedric> can't answer though
[12:20] <maniheer> loool
[12:20] <kane77> ziroday, hmm.. no icons there :/ I remember some pixmaps folder or something like that
[12:20] <phyteg> dooley_:  don't remove a kernel, try another one or reinstall
[12:20] <maniheer> kane77, /usr/shate
[12:20] <ziroday> tellerium: sure. what is it?
[12:20] <maniheer> i mean /usr/share/pixmaps
[12:21] <ziroday> kane77: woops sorry try /usr/share/pixmaps
[12:21] <bartek> When it comes to installing apps that come packaged in tar.gz formats/etc .. is there a "standard" place to install them or is it simply up to me?
[12:21] <dooley_> Thanks phyteg
[12:21] <ziroday> !compiling | bartek
[12:21] <kane77> ziroday, maniheer thank you guys.. thats it!
[12:21] <dooley_> I have 2.6.24-19, should I go down to 18? Just for handyness?
[12:21] <tellerium> i am currently using PCLinuxOS and if i create a new partition, can i install ubuntu and keep my existing /home and swap paritions and use them in both distros?
[12:21] <mecha> phyteg: thanks imma reboot X
[12:22] <maniheer> kane77, i should have been first (alphabetically and answer wise)
[12:22] <maniheer> :P
[12:22] <ziroday> tellerium: your /home partition needs to be on a seperate partition. Not so sure about swap but I guess yes.
[12:22] <Simak> hi all
[12:22] <ziroday> Simak: Hi!
[12:23] <Simak> whats UP!
[12:23] <maniheer> nutin much
[12:23] <maniheer> but they took shell.sourceforge.net down
[12:23] <Simak> its freakin cold :S ! i'm freezin
[12:23] <maniheer> :D
[12:23] <Simak> w00
[12:23] <saurabh> i think the global menu patch is a bad idea, normally we access the menu using the ALT key, so why not just hide the menu and then show it after the user presses the ALT key?, this saves vertical screen space as well
[12:23] <ziroday> Simak: if you have a question please ask, if you want to chat you can in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:23] <erUSUL> tellerium: well shouldn't be major problems using the same home partition on both distros if the usernames (ang uid and gid do not colide)
[12:23] <Simak> oki I have a question actually
[12:24] <Simak> /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-ultimate/build folder acts as if it doesn't exist
[12:24] <mecha> anyone know what this means?
[12:24] <mecha> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 23498:
[12:24] <mecha>  field name `dbus,' must be followed by colon
[12:24] <mecha> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[12:24] <ziroday> saurabh: file a bug about it or ask the dev. If you are not sure who it is ask in #ubuntu-devel
[12:24] <FloodBot1> mecha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:24] <erUSUL> tellerium: you will have to be extra carefull though
[12:24] <RUMMY> oh, I delete /boot what i must to do now, If i restart ....... plz help
[12:24] <tellerium> hrmmmm
[12:24] <erUSUL> mecha: that file is corrupted
[12:24] <erUSUL> ?
[12:24] <gregge> I've got a fresh copy of xp, and a fresh copy of ubuntu, yet everything is faster in XP... bloody annoying
[12:24] <saurabh> ziroday: thanks
[12:24] <remoteCTRL> when i return from screensaver my sound is gone, how could i possibly fix that?
[12:24] <ziroday> gregge: have you installed all the drivers?
[12:25] <maniheer> RUMMY, have u checked the trash folder?
[12:25] <ziroday> saurabh: good luck
[12:25] <mecha> erUSUL: should i delete it or rebuild it?
[12:25] <Simak> my build folder acts as if it doesn't exist, my make function doesnt work either, and when i go into the directorium where the build folder is, and type ls its in black/reddish colour... any help? im seriously considering formatin n doing eveeerything again...
[12:25] <RUMMY> I deleted it from console rm -rf /boot
[12:25] <erUSUL> mecha: nope; first check the affected line "nano -v +23498 /var/lib/dpkg/available"
[12:25] <maniheer> RUMMY, why?
[12:25] <RUMMY> I wanted delete /boot/old
[12:26] <gregge> ziroday: yep. the video drivers are there, don't know which others I need to improve speed. Above all watching flash-videos is really slow
[12:26] <dooley_> Gregge have you tried flash 10?
[12:26] <erUSUL> RUMMY: !!?? sudo mkdir /boot/ reinstall the kernel and grub....
[12:26] <ziroday> gregge: that is a flash issue, try using flash 10 or a free software alternative
[12:26] <Simak> I had .24 kernel, and installed .26 so I can try doin some security check on my wireless with my 4965 card. but i can't install the drivers, as if build folder doesn't exist. any help? :(
[12:27] <erUSUL> Simak: where did you get the new kernel from?
[12:27] <Simak> kernelcheck
[12:27] <gregge> dooley & ziroday: I doubt it. But is flash 10 faster? I'm using ubuntu 64 now, and it didn't really like flash 9
[12:27] <Simak> erUSUL: kernelcheck
[12:27] <erUSUL> Simak: you need the corresponding kernel headers
[12:27] <auto> ubuntu 8.10 where
[12:28] <dooley_> Flash 10 was actually the only one that would work for me.
[12:28] <Simak> erUSUL: i downloaded them already, and isntalled via aptitude
[12:28] <dooley_> Seems fine, better than gnash.
[12:28] <dooley_> Simak: Is kernelcheck good?
[12:28] <dooley_> Simak: Might fix problems Im having with my kernel at the mo.
[12:29] <erUSUL> dooley_: Simak it seems not good enough or the driver compilation would not fail
[12:29] <dooley_> Ah...
[12:29] <lost_boy432> I'm having difficulties sharing folders, can anyone help please?
[12:29] <tellerium> how would i dual boot pclos and ubuntu and not have to tread lightly??
[12:29] <gregge> allright... I didn't even know 10 was out. When it asked me to install flash it offered 9..
[12:30] <Simak> dooley_ erSUL it is weird, like when i go into the kernel folder, and type ls, the files are there and the build folder, only that build folder is marked in weird colour and I cannot cd it
[12:30] <dooley_> gregge:Repos are old
[12:30] <erUSUL> mecha: try this "diff -u /var/lib/dpkg/available /var/lib/dpkg/available-old"
[12:30] <gregge> but I'll try it even if i doubt it'll really improve anything.. My HP hates everything but Vista apparently, and i hate Vista, so we're in a conflict here :)
[12:30] <zeno> how to get wl working?
[12:30] <bartek> I see a lot of Gnome screenshots where the menu bar also has your currently oppened applications and so forth .. how do I achieve this?
[12:30] <newbie> hi can you help me with my ati agp video card on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[12:31] <ziroday`> !ati | newbie
[12:31] <newbie> thanx
[12:31] <erUSUL> bartek: you put the "applications windows" applet on the same pannel as the "menu" applet
[12:32] <bartek> ohh I get it .. wow simpler then I thought
[12:32] <zetheroo-ubuntu> does anyone know how to install Ubuntu on a C card?
[12:32] <zetheroo-ubuntu> CF card*
[12:32] <bernand> mobile1
[12:33] <mecha> erUSUL: whats the vi command to go to a certaiin line?
[12:33] <erUSUL> mecha: the same as nano most editors accept the +linunumber switch
[12:34] <lost_boy432> I'm having difficulties sharing folders on my network, can anyone help me please?
[12:34] <trigpin>  im having a problem running tremulous here error http://pastebin.com/m546fb564 running hardy
[12:34] <erUSUL> mecha: but anyway you can copy /var/lib/dpkg/available-old overwritten the /var/lib/dpkg/available hopefully the old version is not corrupted
[12:35] <erUSUL> trigpin: do you have 3d working on you graphic card?
[12:35] <erUSUL> !samba
[12:35] <ilec> hey is there any way to transfer/install the grub boot loader to a different HDD?
[12:35] <ph> could someone tell me in what groups a user should be ? (after fresh install)
[12:36] <trigpin> erUSUL, yes , was workign fine yesterday then played with settings... meh
[12:37] <erUSUL> ph: this is  my output for the "id" command uid=1000($USER) gid=1000($USER) grupos=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),107(fuse),109(lpadmin),115(admin),125(kvm),1000($USER)
[12:37] <lost_boy432> I already am sharing the folder using samba but I just can't find it as a share.
[12:38] <ph> erUSUL: thanks !
[12:38] <liza0> which gfx cards do you think  have good compatibility (including video playback hardware acceleration) in ubuntu
[12:38] <trigpin> erUSUL, i tried apt-get remove --purge tremulous and apt-get clean still has my settings .. where are they ?
[12:38] <liza0> ati or nvidia
[12:38] <zetheroo-ubuntu> I installed Ubuntu Hardy on a CF card but for some reason it won't boot ...
[12:39] <erUSUL> trigpin: probably in ~/.tremulous or something like that
[12:39] <erUSUL> trigpin: on your home thir
[12:39] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Like GRUB does not even show up
[12:39] <trigpin> erUSUL, ok il have a look
[12:39] <erUSUL> liza0: nvidia is a safer choice imho
[12:39] <hsinam1> hi, i am using ubuntu 8.04. i am not able to start gnome-terminal. when i try to start it, the window opens and after that nothing happen, no menu bar, no command prompt. i tried reinstalling gnome-terminal but it didnt work. xterm is working though. any clues?
[12:39] <liza0> ok
[12:40] <lost_boy432> Where do I find my folders that I'm sharing?
[12:40] <dooley_> liza0: Nvidia seems to be better with releasing drivers
[12:40] <liza0> thanks
[12:40] <leon_06> Does anybody else have problems with the new myspace music player and firefox , in ubuntu 8.04 ???
[12:41] <zetheroo-ubuntu> doesanyone have any ieas?
[12:41] <dooley_> leon_06: Does flash work alright?
[12:41] <zetheroo-ubuntu> I thought maybe GRUB needed to be repaired ...
[12:42] <ilec> I'm having GRUB issues too
[12:42] <leon_06> Generally yes , for example in pages like youtube and such. I also downloaded the latest version ( from adobe , 10 i think ). It was also working correctly with the previous myspace music player
[12:42] <ShinobiTeno> Hey, everyone! I need a shell command, that allows to sync hard disk to backup one. IE delete and add files, skip matching ones. Anyone?
[12:43] <dooley_> I think I actually remember having problems with it now that you mention it. Maybe try an alternative, gnash or flash 9.
[12:43] <tuxice> Hello!
[12:44] <leon_06> I was actually using flash 9 when the problem started , but i think it's an issue from the side of myspace
[12:45] <trigpin> erUSUL, ok no worries , just deleted ./tremulous and reinstalled works now thnaks =)
[12:45] <dooley_> Actually no works fine with me on flash 10.
[12:45] <zetheroo-ubuntu> I had installed Hardy on this very same CF card before and it worked ... but now its not even showing GRUB on boot
[12:45] <Tr1p> mythtv --> how can i update my movielist whitout using my interface
[12:45] <dooley_> Try about:plugins on firefox.
[12:45] <AussieGuy> something keeps converting my text files to dos
[12:45] <dooley_> See which one its using.
[12:48] <ShinobiTeno> people?
[12:48] <Tr1p> mythtv --> how can i update my movielist whitout using my interface
[12:50] <leon_06> So , it's showing this http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotaboutpluginsmop5.png
[12:50] <gregge> everything is slower in ubuntu than xp.... I've tried different video drivers, but it won't help. I've got a geforce 8400m gs
[12:52] <gregge> does anyone have a clue what I can do? I really don't want to use windows
[12:52] <tochinoki> Can anyone familiar with Netbeans 6.0.1 answer a simple question for me please?
[12:53] <gregge> is the support for my graphics card so piss poor in linux for everyone?
[12:53] <tochinoki> @gregge, yes my ATI mobile radeon 9200 doesn't work very well. Its an old laptop
[12:54] <tochinoki> Can anyone familiar with Netbeans 6.0.1 answer a simple question for me please?
[12:54] <ortsvorsteher> !ask | tochinoki
[12:55] <gregge> tochinoki: Ok, but everything runs fine in XP for me, so I don't think anything's wrong with the graphics card per se. For some reason it's just slow in ubuntu, and I guess it's the video drivers that affect the poor speed
[12:55] <ziroday`> gregge: does it happen on normal video or on flash videos?
[12:56] <tochinoki> I'm trying to start a new project in Netbeans 6.0.1 using the sun tutorials but it's a different version and I'm confused. I can't just start a simple project and am only offered "Java project with existing ant script".
[12:56] <ziroday`> tochinoki: ask in ##java
[12:56] <tochinoki> Thanks.
[12:57] <gregge> ziroday`: On normal video as well
[12:58] <gregge> on everything, not just videos, I just took it as an example
[12:58] <jxander> does the ntfs-3g have integrated FUSE support in ubuntu 8.04.1?
[12:58] <leon_06> Hm...Should I send an e-mail to myspace and ask about my problem , or they can't do anything about it ?
[12:58] <remoteCTRL> my sound is gone, any help please?
[12:59] <gregge> Cause when I first made the switch to ubuntu, I was told everything would be faster, if anything
[12:59] <ziroday`> gregge: have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[12:59] <reqqit> I just booted up and the gnome toolbars are not visible
[12:59] <ziroday`> Great_Briton: please stop.
[13:00] <ziroday`> reqqit: logout and login again
[13:00] <reqqit> I am using a new screen, they just appear as background, but they are there, I can click on them, and use them, but they are invisible...
[13:00] <reqqit> ziroday, can I just run gnome-something -kill command and then run it again?
[13:00] <gregge> yes, I've tried a few different drivers
[13:00] <reqqit> alrighty, I'll try that
[13:01] <ziroday`> reqqit: you have set them to be transparent.. You can change this by right clicking a clear area of the toolbar and going to Preferences
[13:01] <ziroday`> gregge: which one are you currently using?
[13:01] <jokkaa> How can i see all computers in network? is there a way to do this?
[13:01] <ziroday`> gregge: and what are you playing the videos with?
[13:01] <aaron_> what ubuntu program can I use so that it reads the text and outputs as audio?  I apologize if this is the wrong channel to ask this...I will take note of instruction
[13:02] <remoteCTRL> aaron_: orca
[13:02] <ziroday`> jokkaa: as in all thier IP addresses?
[13:02] <anto> jokkaa, install nmap (sudo apt-get install nmap) then run nmap 192.168.0.*
[13:02] <jokkaa> ziroday, ass in their ips and coputer names
[13:02] <remoteCTRL> jokkaa: ifconfig tells you if you have an ip address and if you can ping something you're online
[13:02] <anto> it will list all the possible computers from <IP_ADDRESS>-255
[13:03] <aaron_> thanks
[13:03] <anto> Does anyone here know how du install a ULTRA ATA/133 PCI RAID card?
[13:03] <jokkaa> remoteCTRL, hu..?
[13:03] <gregge> ziroday`: right now I'm in windows, but I used Envy to install the 7.13.. or whatever it was called. I was talking about flashvideos because it was so evidently choppy in them, but everything is slow in ubuntu for me
[13:03] <bobrock> why is it so  hard to set up a simple local dns server to roslve local domain names for local use
[13:03] <armi> Всем а
[13:03] <hateball> !ru | armi
[13:04] <remoteCTRL> jokkaa: go to places and click on network
[13:04] <bobrock> uhhh
[13:04] <reqqit> that worked. thanks. so the reason I am on this older 7.10 machine now is my 8.04 machine has decided to grate its hard disk from what I can gather
[13:04] <soneil> bobrock: there's been nothing simple about DNS for a long time.  it's one of those things that's evolved into place instead of being designed for it's current jo
[13:04] <jokkaa> remoteCTRL, but that only shows me the shared folders right?
[13:04] <bobrock> nope on a server
[13:04] <reqqit> I've had two good boots from it, where I did some additional backups after using restore disc also
[13:04] <tv7497> guys how do u rename a file rename {file_name} perlexpr {rename_name } is this right ?
[13:04] <ziroday`> gregge: sorry, but saying everything is slow is really really hard to diagnose. Perhaps next time you go to ubuntu you can run the program "top" in the terminal and see if there is a program taking up a large amount of CPU cycles
[13:04] <remoteCTRL> jokkaa: yes
[13:04] <armi> а, сенкс
[13:05] <reqqit> I think it has bad sectors on the disk - can I confirm this with a scan from live cd?
[13:05] <jokkaa> remoteCTRL, yeah.. well i wanna see all computer names and ip,s not to se their shares just to see their locations and wich computers are located
[13:05] <computech_> Hello, does someone know a good and easy to use programm for making backups on linux? It has to be able to make backups from a location in the network (example: \\server\test)
[13:05] <The-Compiler> I've got too much time, anyone a cool and useful terminal application i could port to DSLinux?
[13:05] <ziroday`> !backups | computech_
[13:06] <tv7497> !rename
[13:06] <tv7497> :d
[13:06] <ziroday`> The-Compiler: top
[13:06] <ziroday`> reqqit: nope
[13:06] <The-Compiler> ziroday`: many apps (top, links, wget, irssi, etc.)  are already ported
[13:06] <Man_of_Wax> The-Compiler: irssi :P
[13:07] <gregge> ziroday`: Well, nothing is beeing particularly high percentage in top, so it's something else. But I doubt everyone with a 8400m gs are running slow in linux
[13:07] <bobrock> what I am trying to do is instead of type ip adress in ftp software etc is to have a local domian name from win xp
[13:07] <ziroday`> The-Compiler: anyway, this conversation should be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:07] <bobrock> to ubuntu server
[13:07] <remoteCTRL> jokkaa: use nmap to scan your network
[13:07] <computech_> !backups
[13:08] <remoteCTRL> jokkaa: like for example nmap <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[13:08] <bobrock> I installed bind but how do I make my winxp client us servers dns to resolove local domain
[13:09] <jokkaa> remoteCTRL, how will i know what ip to type?
[13:09] <bobrock> use servers dns
[13:09] <aaron_> how do I kill the orca pids
[13:09] <ziroday`> aaron_: kill -9 <pid>
[13:09] <bobrock> winxp client and use dns server to resoove locl domain
[13:09] <remoteCTRL> jokkaa: see what ip adress you have yourself with ifconfig
[13:10] <remoteCTRL> jokkaa: and then exchange the last group by .0/24
[13:10] <aaron_> thanks
[13:10] <nnull> anyway to listen to like winamp shoutcasts (or shoutcasts in general not sure if they exclusivly for winamp) in ubuntu?
[13:10] <remoteCTRL> anyone please tell me whay my sound is gone after screensaver went on
[13:10] <J-_> Is there anyway to add a couple programs above "accessories" in the gnome menu?
[13:10] <arild_> hi
[13:10] <bobrock> I wan;t my xp machine to use bind on server to resolve local domain
[13:11] <ziroday`> J-_: alacarte?
[13:11] <nnull> J-_¬ right click on Applications : Edit Menu's
[13:11] <ziroday`> arild_: Hi!
[13:11] <arild_> first time here
[13:11] <bobrock> how do I point to winxp to use dns server
[13:11] <ziroday`> arild_: do you have a question?
[13:11] <arild_> my xp in the garbage
[13:12] <reqqit> is 8.10 in decent shape right now? I am gonna buy a new HDD, not sure whether to put 8.04 or 8.10 on it - for dev work, no media / printing / wifi or stuff like that, just an apache server (and not critical)
[13:12] <J-_> ziroday:  Yeah. I can't do it with alacarte
[13:12] <arild_> no
[13:12] <nnull> reqqit¬ afaik 8:10 isnt LTS.. so imo go with 8.04
[13:12] <jokkaa> remoteCTRL, i think its searching now.. lol
[13:12] <ziroday`> reqqit: unless you know what you are doing using 8.10 is *strongly*
[13:12] <ziroday`> unrecommened
[13:12] <bobrock> I want my xp machine to use my bind server on ubuntu to reolove ip adress
[13:12] <bobrock> \etc
[13:12] <strange> hey guys how do i mount 'W95 Ext'd (LBA)'
[13:12] <strange> mount -t ?
[13:12] <remoteCTRL> bobrock: basically that is not a linux question but go to start/contorl panel/network, rightclick your lan connection and double click tcp/ip there, there you can enter the adress of dns servers
[13:13] <strange> which fs :)
[13:13] <reqqit> ziroday - it isn't in bootable or usable mode?
[13:13] <nnull> bobrock¬ whats remoteCTRL said
[13:13] <nnull> what*
[13:13] <arild_> first time...have to take a look
[13:13] <bobrock> yes I know that but what would be ip adress of server
[13:13] <ziroday`> reqqit: it is bootable and usable, however it can often and crash and can destroy your hardware
[13:14] <nnull> bobrock¬ goto terminal on the server and do ifconfig -a
[13:14] <remoteCTRL> bobrock: what kind of question is that? have you got one set up or not?
[13:14] <arild_> look like a wery ok place this
[13:14] <arild_> bye
[13:15] <bobrock> thats right I know ip adress of server but even when I put that in tcp/ip of winxp doesn;t work
[13:15] <remoteCTRL> bobrock: then there is probably soemthing wrong with that server
[13:15] <bobrock> ok
[13:15] <nnull> bobrock¬ try ##networking
[13:15] <reqqit> ziroday`,  yep, I am gonna stick with 8.04, but I'll try 8.10 on my aspireONE when it comes out
[13:15] <SzalonyMjut> hi all
[13:16] <bobrock> so you are saying that I was right to put ip adress of server in tcp
[13:16] <ziroday`> reqqit: great
[13:16] <reqqit> ziroday` - any news on the UI stuff? I groked the wiki, but there was nothing definitive, just some negative comments on the current alpha
[13:16] <ziroday`> SzalonyMjut: Hi!
[13:16] <remoteCTRL> unop: hi old lad are you there?
[13:16] <ziroday`> reqqit: you can ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:16] <reqqit> kk
[13:16] <remoteCTRL> bobrock: of course i wouldn't know of another way
[13:16] <unop> remoteCTRL, aye aye, what's up?
[13:17] <remoteCTRL> unop: nice seeing you:) could you help me with a sound issue please?
[13:17] <unop> remoteCTRL, I can try - what seems to be the matter?
[13:17] <ShinobiTeno> Hey, everyone! I need a shell command, that allows to sync hard disk to backup one. IE delete and add files, skip matching ones. Anyone?
[13:17] <SzalonyMjut> I have problem with automount devices, so if I plug in pendrive, I must go places->compuer-> and clic on it, after that pendrive icon is visible on Desktop
[13:18] <remoteCTRL> unop: nice, thanks: i have no screensaver turned on in the actual sense but ubuntu turns off the screen after some time, when i return from that my sound is gone
[13:18] <jxander> how do i give permision to a user to mount ntfs partitions? please help :-s
[13:18] <remoteCTRL> unop: so far i could only fix that by rebooting...
[13:18] <pengo> what symbols do you use to pipe error messages in bash etc (instead of | )
[13:18] <remoteCTRL> jxander: man fstab
[13:18] <jxander> yeah... been there
[13:18] <jxander> the user option doesn't work
[13:18] <bill_> gmorning
[13:19] <unop> remoteCTRL, are you sure it's not a blank screen saver ??
[13:19] <remoteCTRL> jxander: that is strange, tried to chmod the folder?
[13:19] <jxander> /dev/sda1 /media/System ntfs rw,user,exec,dev,suid,auto,async 0 0
[13:19] <bill_> i cant find the line concerning my mounting options for the windows partition.. Neither on fstab nor on mtab.. what goes?
[13:19] <jxander> the /media/X folder?
[13:19] <remoteCTRL> unop: i guess you know that; screen turns black slowly
[13:19] <erUSUL> bill_: cat /proc/mounts
[13:19] <jxander> remoteCTRL: i'll try right now
[13:20] <indian_munnda> hi can anyone tell me how can i stop my PC monitor from getting in switch off mode when i leave for 10 min?????.
[13:20] <term_> how do i install goodies so i can compile/make c
[13:20] <term_> :P
[13:20] <unop> pengo, the only way to pipe data to another program is via the pipe ( | ) .. to pipe just error messages.  command 2>&1 >/dev/null | command2
[13:21] <remoteCTRL> unop: blank screen it is indeed
[13:21] <term_> Hello. how do i find out if i have 3d rendering on?
[13:21] <unop> remoteCTRL, that sounds like gnome-screensavers' blank screensaver - try turning that off, and see if it rectifies the issue .. alternatively, i think you could get away by terminating the gnome-screensaver process
[13:21] <zoom> hello
[13:21] <remoteCTRL> unop: try that, sec, please
[13:21] <zoom> i'm italian... server italian ce?
[13:21] <LjL> !it | zoom
[13:21] <erUSUL> !it
[13:21] <unop> remoteCTRL, looks like gnome-screensaver doesn't play well with pulse-audio
[13:21] <term_> Hello. how do i find out if i have 3d rendering on?
[13:22] <bill_> erUSUL: cant find it on proc/mounts neither
[13:22] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me how can i stop my PC monitor from getting in switch off mode when i leave for 10 min?????.
[13:22] <remoteCTRL> unop: humm i turned it off and killed the process but that didn't bring the sound back:-/
[13:23] <remoteCTRL> unop: is that a known issue?
[13:23] <remoteCTRL> unop: basically that worked just fine until yesterday, no idea what happened there
[13:23] <unop> pengo, you could also use a subshell trick like this.   command >/dev/null 2>( command2 )
[13:23] <pengo> unop: thanks
[13:23] <pengo> uncorq: command2 has to be in brackets?
[13:24] <gregge> I heard about some group trying to reverse engineer nvidia drivers, does anyone know more about this?
[13:24] <unop> remoteCTRL, hmm, it's not a known issue - atleast to me it isn't
[13:24] <unop> remoteCTRL, have you updated anything since yesterday?
[13:24] <icesword> unop, how are you doing today>?
[13:24] <unop> pengo, yes, the parantheses are needed
[13:24] <unop> icesword, good good, you? :)
[13:25] <remoteCTRL> unop: i ran the updates the day before but i dont recall anything about screensaver or pulse being in there...
[13:25] <bill_> erUSUL: In /proc/mounts it got 2 references about ext3 but nothing about NTFS. Mind that my Vista partition is auto-mounted SOMEWHERE and working, but i need the mount string
[13:25] <erUSUL> bill_: well it should appear there even if it is via ntfs-3g fuse
[13:26] <icesword> unop, hehe, maybe you just feel good when helping ppl, no worries, I am still alive, dude
[13:26] <erUSUL> bill_: that's how my winXp appears /dev/sda1 /media/WinXP fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0
[13:26] <bill_> no its not fuse, its a normal ext3 partition
[13:26] <erUSUL> bill_: no fstab line for it just click on places
[13:26] <deepbluegene> Hi. How to setup firewall in ubuntu?
[13:26] <remoteCTRL> this is awkward
[13:26] <emman> hit folks!
[13:26] <erUSUL> bill_: i thought you said it was a ntfs partition
[13:27] <icesword> emman, hi, hit?
[13:27] <remoteCTRL> deepbluegene: manually with iptables, graphical frontend would be for example firestarter
[13:27] <bill_> yes it is, but linux run on its ext3 partition
[13:27] <emman> hi
[13:27] <ilec> hey, can you repair the MBR on a HDD from a live CD?
[13:27] <unop> remoteCTRL, sound's not working now, is it?
[13:27] <remoteCTRL> ilec: have a look at supergrub disk
[13:27] <ackbahr> Hi there! Could someone help me with some printer configuration problems? I followed several tracks (amongst which CUPS and Brother's own drivers), but nothing seems to work well.... I'd like to start over again!
[13:27] <remoteCTRL> unop: nope
[13:27] <computech_> hello, i have a question about simple backuip suite, does anyone know how to make the programm backup location that are in the network?
[13:27] <unop> remoteCTRL, does this give you anything?   fuser /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp
[13:27] <ilec> yup, doing that now
[13:28] <deepbluegene> thanks
[13:28] <emman> can I install ubuntu on eeePc1000?
[13:28] <remoteCTRL> unop: says /dev/snd/controlC0:   7127
[13:28] <remoteCTRL> /dev/dsp:             8214
[13:28] <icesword> emman, sure, you can
[13:28] <bill_> basically i did a fresh installation on a friends latptop, ontop on his NTFS (vista) partition. He is fuse partioned unlike my box which is ext3 and ntfs separate. The problem is he cant see his "windows" filesystem and im trying to give him a valid "rwx" mount string to add on his fstab
[13:29] <emman> icesword thru live CD?
[13:29] <unop> remoteCTRL, ok, now this?  ps aux | egrep "7127|8214"
[13:29] <warren_> hi
[13:29] <warren_> i laucnhed the upgrade of my system with update-manager -d
[13:29] <Haze_>  /server irc.epiknet.org
[13:29] <icesword> emman, well, ubuntu can be installed via many ways
[13:29] <warren_> when it comes to the final step, will it ask for reboot or will it reboot automatically?
[13:29] <icesword> emman, live cd is the most common way
[13:29] <ShinobiTeno> term_, in terminal "glxinfo | grep -i rendering"
[13:30] <emman> is the live CD the easiest way?
[13:30] <remoteCTRL> unop: says klaus     7127  0.0  0.8<PHONE_NUMBER>6 ?        Sl   11:50   0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=37
[13:30] <remoteCTRL> klaus     8214  0.0  0.0   8692   692 ?        S    13:20   0:00 /usr/NX/bin/nxesd -tcp -nobeeps -port 6000 -bind <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:30] <icesword> emman, indeed
[13:30] <warren_> using ubuntu's update manager to upgrade my version, when it comes to the final step, will it ask for reboot or will it reboot automatically?
[13:30] <emman> thank you icesword
[13:30] <erUSUL> bill_: so he is using wubi
[13:30] <moo__> hi - ive got my pc plugged into my TV, but the image on the screen is ghosting
[13:31] <remoteCTRL> warren_: ubuntu never reboots on its own
[13:31] <icesword> emman, be my guest
[13:31] <warren_> ok, thanks
[13:31] <warren_> i can leave hi alone then! bye
[13:31] <bill_> erUSUL: sorry he is using wubi apparently. I just wanna help him enable his Vista partition
[13:31] <Computech> does anyone know a good backup programm to backup location from the network (with a gui), i already watched those at !backup but i dont know how to make simplebackup suite or so backup locations from the network
[13:31] <emman> bye!
[13:31] <bill_> and 2ndry i wanna see where in the heck mine is mounted though! Not on fstab/mtab and on proc/mounts? possible?
[13:31] <erUSUL> bill_: dunno much about wubi sorry... not sure if he can access the windows filesystem
[13:32] <rajec> guys I  have problem install magento on ubuntu it says It dont have permissions so I did sudo chown username /magento but it doesnt work either
[13:32] <remoteCTRL> Computech: well gui is hard if i recall correctly amanda has a gui but rsync is best for that kind of jobs
[13:32] <bill_> as far as i know he mounts the sda normally like if he had ext3 and ntfs too
[13:32] <icesword> bill_, wubi? there is a site? like is wubi.org or what? not clear now?
[13:32] <unop> remoteCTRL, ok, try this.  kill 7127; kill 8214  #and then try playing something to get sound
[13:32] <Computech> remoteCTRL, are those instalable from synaptic?
[13:33] <remoteCTRL> Computech: anything that is available from the repositories is installable from synaptic
[13:33] <comicinker> help!: when I try to rmmod my audio device, I receive: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use      how can I remove that module?
[13:33] <remoteCTRL> unop: genious! it made a clack and now it works again
[13:34] <remoteCTRL> unop: now what the h*** was that??
[13:34] <unop> remoteCTRL, i suspect that the gnome-screensaver command starts of the ESD process which locks the sound device - not allowing other programs to access it, i suspect -- try setting the screensaver off again
[13:34] <remoteCTRL> comicinker: something is accessing that module, like a media player or gnome or whatever, as long as it is in use you can't
[13:35] <remoteCTRL> unop: yeah i got it off now
[13:35] <comicinker> remoteCTRL: how can I find out what's using that module?
[13:35] <remoteCTRL> unop: nice old lad, saved my life once more, thanks:)
[13:35] <unop> remoteCTRL, ha ha
[13:35] <Computech> remoteCTRL, the thing i want is that my ubuntu computer goes to \\server\importantfiles and copy everything from there to a usb external hard disk on the ubuntu computer itself
[13:35] <smelian> hello please im using acer 5720 G but my wireless dont work im using hardy gnome i heared there is program name wirless assistant but its for kde is there same prog for gnome
[13:35] <Gizmo_The_Great> Hi. I have a directory full of 200 or so files that I want to numerically rename from FilenameA, FilenameB etc to 1_FilenameA, 2_FilenameB etc. Any ideas how to do that? .
[13:35] <remoteCTRL> comicinker: sorry, no idea
[13:35] <C0p3rn1c> I know this is not on topic but what can you do about GPL violations ?
[13:36] <ackbahr> C0p3rn1c: There's an off-topic channel....
[13:36] <thiebaude> !ndswrapper
[13:36] <thiebaude> i think i misspelled it
[13:36] <remoteCTRL> Computech: well that is commonly being achieved with a little script that you schedule with a cronjob
[13:36] <ziroday`> !ndiswrapper > thiebaude
[13:36] <icesword> hehe
[13:37] <beginner> Hello. Could someone help me to use my bluetooth headset? When I try to use kernel panics....
[13:37] <thiebaude> thank you, ziroday
[13:37] <comicinker> remoteCTRL: maybe with the help of lsof? somehow?
[13:37] <ziroday`> thiebaude: have fun, also see !wifi
[13:37] <Computech> remoteCTRL, can you help me making such a script? but the best thing would be of course the function of a average backup programm to only backup files that are changed
[13:38] <thiebaude> ok, ziroday
[13:38] <term_> Hello... wuts the command to get xorg config... the terminal GUI
[13:38] <term_> where you can select your systems specs.
[13:38] <aji_> Does someone know why hydrogen in ubuntu intrepid is crashing whole computer?
[13:39] <ziroday`> term_: sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:39] <remoteCTRL> comicinker: sorry man, really no idea...
[13:39] <comicinker> ok
[13:39] <ziroday`> aji_: ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:39] <icesword> !drxx
[13:39] <term_> ziroday, thx, also, wut drivers do i need for an nvidia geforce fx5200, will install nvidia-glx-new
[13:39] <term_>  work lol
[13:39] <thiebaude> aji_:remember 8.10 might have some bugs
[13:39] <C0p3rn1c> ok, if theire is anybody here who would like to discuss and help me report the GPL VIOLATION by MYSQL-WORKBENCH please join me in #off-topic
[13:40] <caesar_eMo> ce imoet
[13:40] <remoteCTRL> Computech: well as you seem to have more requrements there i suggest you have a look at the manpages or rsync, that one is really powerfull and then see man crontab to see how to implement a cronjob, which isn't very hard to do
[13:40] <ziroday`> !nvidia | term_
[13:40] <jxander> !ntfs-3g
[13:40] <Computech> remoteCTRL, ok :)
[13:40] <unop> Gizmo_The_Great,  rename -n 'no strict; s/^/++$count . "_"/e' Filename*
[13:41] <faisal> فش
[13:41] <unop> Gizmo_The_Great, the -n causes this to be a dry-run - meaning it does not do the actual renaming, just tells you what it would have done ... to do the renaming, remove -n
[13:41] <aaron_> can I use festival to read my emails?
[13:42] <bill_> erUSUL: it seems like vista was unmounted atm. I havent noticed till now that it was mounted manually whenever i click the "vista" entry in the X interface's "locations" menu
[13:42] <beginner> Hello. Could someone help me to use my bluetooth headset? When I try to use kernel panics....
[13:42] <thiebaude> !festival
[13:42] <rajec> guys I  have problem install magento on ubuntu it says It dont have permissions so I did sudo chown username /magento but it doesnt work either
[13:42] <discografico> hello
[13:42] <discografico> can anyone help me with ubuntu?
[13:43] <aaron_> Festival is text to speech....is there a better solution?
[13:43] <soundray> discografico: you need to ask more specifically
[13:43] <discografico> yes
[13:43] <remoteCTRL> rajec: so you have a folder magento lying directly in /?
[13:43] <remoteCTRL> aaron_: i know only of orca
[13:43] <discografico> i'd like to install some softwares not in the default directory but in a virtual disk made with truecrypt
[13:43] <discografico> is it possible?
[13:43] <aaron_> having trouble with orca
[13:43] <rajec> remoteCTRL: its in var/www
[13:43] <aaron_> don't know how to use it
[13:43] <aaron_> looking for documentation
[13:44] <remoteCTRL> rajec: then chown /magento will not succeed
[13:44] <rajec> remoteCTRL:  but I was in www directory so it does
[13:44] <soundray> discografico: please have a look at the factoid that ubottu will send
[13:44] <soundray> !truecrypt > discografico
[13:44] <remoteCTRL> rajec: no it doesn't you need to write ith without the /
[13:44] <sriramoman> is there anyway to check the size of data that can be embedded in a jpeg or wav file using steghide?
[13:45] <discografico> oh okey!
[13:45] <murlidhar> hi all . my nm-applet does not launch anything if i press " manual configuration " Am i missing something?
[13:45] <maniheer> !nano > xorg62
[13:46] <Cew27> hey
[13:46] <discografico> soundray sorry
[13:46] <aaron_> orca is working now
[13:46] <Cew27> can anyone help my my blender windowed mode opens in full screen
[13:46] <aaron_> seems festival needed to be installed for it
[13:46] <discografico> i've created a volume with trucrypt
[13:46] <remoteCTRL> aaron_: fine:)
[13:46] <discografico> and i'm able to store file in it
[13:47] <discografico> but how can i install packages in it?
[13:47] <rajec> remoteCTRL: ? so what should I do ?
[13:47] <icesword> unop, how to make a file excutalbe? heihei, shame on me. hehe
[13:47] <discografico> i mean... if i need to install amule in it
[13:47] <discografico> how can i do?
[13:47] <m3F> i downloaded the intrepid beta, but it does not recognize one of my hard disc drives (the primary one), is this a known bug in the installer? i can see the partition in the LiveCD, but, when i run the installation process the primary hard drive appears empty.
[13:47] <remoteCTRL> rajec: well execute the command once again without the / infront of magento
[13:47] <pbn> Hello, on a fresh Ubuntu 8.04 install, in the GUI I can't get a resolution higher than 800x600, but both my display adapter and my monitor support 1024x768. I tried dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg .... but it never prompts me for the definition.... How can I switch to 1024x768 ?
[13:47] <soundray> murlidhar: it's supposed to call network-admin. Try to run network-admin from terminal and see if it throws any errors
[13:48] <soundray> discografico: are you trying to hide illegal activity?
[13:48] <remoteCTRL> pbn: what graphics card?
[13:48] <ortsvorsteher> pbn: try displayconfig-gtk
[13:48] <unop> icesword, are you serious?
[13:48] <discografico> no soundray
[13:48] <lu6cifer> anyone familiar with alephone?
[13:48] <pbn> remoteCTRL: Riva TNT 2
[13:48] <discografico> i'm trying to hide software i don't want other people to use
[13:48] <icesword> unop, indeed
[13:48] <unop> icesword, i'll give you a pointer.  chmod
[13:48] <icesword> :o
[13:48] <murlidhar> soundray: thanks . it was not installed
[13:49] <remoteCTRL> pbn: you might hav e to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the desired resolutions in there in order for X to be able to recognize it
[13:49] <pbn> remoteCTRL: yes I was thinking of editing it ... but.... I find no modelines at all in /etc/X11/xorg.conf !
[13:49] <icesword> unop, hehe
[13:49] <discografico> also sotware like thunderbird
[13:49] <soundray> discografico: okay. I'm afraid I can't help with truecrypt specifics. I think if you want to hide a software installation in it, you'd have to install it directly from an upstream binary instead of from an Ubuntu package.
[13:50] <Finiras> can anybody recommend an application that lets me download websites? not just a single page but i'm talking about a program that follows every link and downloads everything related to that website, possibly avoiding advertisements
[13:50] <remoteCTRL> pbn: search for example configs in google i don't know the exact nomencalture by heart...
[13:50] <aaron_> seems I have configured orca
[13:50] <rajec> remoteCTRL: hmm still problem btw if I set right on magento folder all subfolders has same permission right?
[13:50] <aaron_> how do I get it to read a web page
[13:50] <LjL> !info wget | Finiras
[13:50] <lu6cifer> anyone familiar with alephone?
[13:50] <discografico> thanks soundray
[13:50] <Finiras> ljl wget is just to download a single file
[13:50] <remoteCTRL> rajec: should have, yes, if not try magento/*
[13:50] <LjL> Finiras: no it isn't
[13:51] <murlidhar> discografico: my best advise would be to not let others log in through your username . give them a guest account .
[13:51] <soundray> Finiras: 'man wget' and search for 'recursive'
[13:51] <LjL> Finiras: "man wget", hit "/", search for "mirror"
[13:51] <remoteCTRL> aaron_: with your eyes?
[13:51] <Phyto> hi all
[13:52] <discografico> murlidhar: if they log as a guest account they will not see installations like thunderbirds or phonebooks etc.etc.?
[13:52] <aaron_> I want to have speech read aloud with orca
[13:52] <remoteCTRL> aaron_: oh sorry man, umm you put the cursor in the webpage
[13:52] <aaron_> ok
[13:52] <blueman> I'm trying to compile something. It says I need a certain .hpp file...I have the file, but where do I put it?
[13:52] <LjL> discografico: they will see the installed programs, but they certainly won't see *your* mails or *your* phonebook
[13:52] <discografico> oh ok
[13:52] <LjL> blueman: what are you trying to compile?
[13:52] <murlidhar> discografico: no they won't see any data that has been entered through your account
[13:52] <aaron_> nothing happening
[13:53] <blueman> Just a game engine
[13:53] <discografico> i'll try
[13:53] <discografico> thanks
[13:53] <murlidhar> no problems
[13:53] <rajec> remoteCTRL: somebody told me to set permission to apache server
[13:53] <remoteCTRL> aaron_	what happens if you mark a paragraph?
[13:53] <LjL> blueman, which game engine? we can't guess things if we don't know what one is doing
[13:53] <phoenixbai> I am new here, nice to meet you all
[13:53] <Gizmo_The_Great> unop, that has worked a treat!! Thanks a lot. I'd never have worked that out for myself. Thanks
[13:53] <murlidhar> hi | phoenixbai
[13:53] <aaron_> by mark do you mean highlight
[13:53] <aaron_> nothing happens
[13:54] <murlidhar> !test
[13:54] <remoteCTRL> rajec: umm in that case it should be enuff to set the group of the folder to apache or add user apache to the group that owns the magento folder
[13:54] <unop> Gizmo_The_Great, you need to have an understanding of perl or regular expressions to use rename
[13:54] <blueman> actually, it's pretty obscure, so I'll think I'll go on their IRC channel for help...
[13:54] <jxander> is there a gui for configuring mount points and options?
[13:54] <remoteCTRL> aaron_	humm for me that works
[13:55] <remoteCTRL> jxander: nope you do that in /etc/fstab
[13:55] <rajec> remoteCTRL: ok but If Iam only user on my ubuntu installation  I am user of apache
[13:55] <remoteCTRL> rajec: nope apache runs a s wwwrun as far as i recall
[13:55] <aaron_> the only time I hear sound being read is when the ocra preferences tab is hit
[13:56] <jxander> remoteCTRL: tried... not working :(... if i remove the entries, it works, but i have to mount by clicking on the desktop... i want to auto mount the ntfs partitions and i can't get the right options :( user option doesn't work for me
[13:56] <remoteCTRL> aaron_: orca has got some substantial configuration options how to read what, have a look at those
[13:56] <rajec> remoteCTRL: so could you please tell me how to find under which user it runs and how to change those permissions
[13:56] <aaron_> ok thanks
[13:57] <remoteCTRL> jxander: aouto mount option is simply auto but it aoutomounts it only on system start then if you want to do that manually you type mount -a, that mounts everything that is in fstab