[12:05] <Duder29> pc
[12:05] <jsubl2> no release party in dallas :(
[12:06] <jsubl2> Duder29: you could try one of the boot options like apic=no  what is your mobo and disks
[12:06] <mpmc> is there a service manager in kubuntu?
[12:06] <Strike4ce> basically this new update is is installing the whole os?
[12:06] <jsubl2> damn the torrents are really hot >400kb
[12:07] <orugo> hey
[12:07] <Strike4ce> whats the fastest way for me to get the updates?
[12:07] <orugo> i need help with SOUND in kubuntu
[12:07] <orugo> i mean
[12:07] <Mars> Hi i have  a problem. I had win deco crystalGL and everything was warking good. But i restarted my pc amd there is an error of that deco, that shows message that i dont have openGL. How can i repair it?
[12:07] <orugo> i play a mp3 file
[12:07] <orugo> and it doesnt work
[12:07] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: have you already changed your sources to point to breezy
[12:07] <Strike4ce> yep
[12:07] <Sgep> Should I comment out
[12:07] <Sgep> deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342
[12:08] <Sgep> Err
[12:08] <frank23> Sgep: yes that one is useless with breezy
[12:09] <Sgep> What exactly needs to be changed?
[12:09] <Strike4ce> sudo sed -i s/hoary/breezy/ /etc/apt/sources.list RIGHT???
[12:09] <jsubl2> orugo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:09] <mpmc> Is there a service manager in Kubuntu?
[12:09] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 thats the right command to change it correct?
[12:09] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: i am a little weak with sed.. but yeah maybe
[12:09] <Strike4ce> he sed she sed
[12:09] <mpmc> LOL
[12:09] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: i generally do it by hand
[12:10] <Sgep> Just change it and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[12:10] <Strike4ce> why the ll is it taking so long lol
[12:10] <Strike4ce> hell
[12:10] <jsubl2> apt-get update first
[12:10] <orugo> restricted formats?
[12:10] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: usa or europe
[12:10] <Sgep> Do I do apt-get update before or after changing sources.list ?
[12:10] <Strike4ce> well all my updates are coming from ubuntu.com/breezy/main so I guess thats right?
[12:11] <Strike4ce> USA
[12:11] <Sgep> and do I keep 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted' ?
[12:11] <frank23> Sgep: after
[12:11] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: with everyone downloading the server are really slow.. might be faster to use the torrent and get the cd
[12:11] <frank23> Sgep: change it to breezy-updates
[12:11] <Strike4ce> how do you go about doing this?
[12:12] <Strike4ce> im at the 309th file now
[12:12] <Strike4ce> lol
[12:12] <Strike4ce> howmany files are there?
[12:12] <jsubl2> yeah it will be slow... always on release day
[12:12] <mpmc> IS there a GUI Service manager??
[12:12] <jsubl2> I am getting >400kb/sec on the torrents
[12:13] <Duder29> jsubl2 my mb is a ELiteGroup
[12:13] <jsubl2> Duder29: don't ring a bell.. i would try a boot option the cd has info on how to use those maybe the apic=no.
[12:14] <Duder29> could it maybe be my hard drive? its still formated form a earlier time with other files
[12:14] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 im getting18.3kb and im broadband LMAO
[12:14] <Strike4ce> downloading thru apt get
[12:15] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: yeah i upgraded a couple of files and it was only about that.  damn torrent is fast tho.  I am going to leave mine up for a couple of days
[12:15] <Sgep> "Starting with Breezy (Ubuntu 5.10), K3B does not come with MP3 decoding support out of the box"
[12:15] <jsubl2> i am on breezy anyway
[12:15] <Sgep> I'm downgrade K3B?
[12:15] <frank23> Strike4ce: I upgraded a few days ago:  I probably got 300kb/s on average from the canadian mirrors
[12:15] <Sgep> Err http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release.gpg
[12:15] <Sgep>   Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'
[12:16] <Sgep> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release
[12:16] <frank23> Sgep: that is not your fault
[12:16] <Strike4ce> how do I setup my bittorrent to download the files?
[12:16] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: you in kde
[12:16] <Strike4ce> yes
[12:17] <Strike4ce> i think
[12:17] <jsubl2> start konq and double click the file or right click and select the program to start it with
[12:17] <Strike4ce> the browser
[12:18] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: yes konqueror the browser.. right click the file and look under open with
[12:19] <Strike4ce> the file? I dont see that
[12:19] <jsubl2> did you download the iso.torrent file
[12:20] <jsubl2> kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent
[12:20] <Sgep> Does 'Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release' prevent it from working?
[12:20] <Strike4ce> lo jus sec
[12:20] <Strike4ce> lol
[12:20] <Sgep> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages
[12:20] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: i am trying to dcc it to you if you want it
[12:20] <Sgep> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages
[12:21] <Strike4ce> well im not using kde on my desktop have 2 puters sitting here
[12:21] <othernoob> mmh, my alt gr key works like the normal alt key, anyone know how i can change that?
[12:21] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: start your torrent client and just open up the filename.torrent
[12:22] <Kevman> How to I get Firefox in Breezy?
[12:22] <jsubl2> Kevman: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[12:22] <Mars> Hi i have quaetion is it safe to upgrade kubuntu to 5.10 ?
[12:22] <jsubl2> yes
[12:22] <jsubl2> from hoary yes
[12:23] <Kevman> jsubl2: Doesn't work.
[12:23] <Mars> ok and how much of stuff it will download using distr update?
[12:23] <Strike4ce> im looking for the client its preinstalled on kde right?
[12:23] <frank23> Mars: about 500 MBs
[12:23] <jsubl2> !sources
[12:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:23] <jsubl2> Kevman: follow those links
[12:24] <Kevman> What repo is it in? I thought it was in Universe.
[12:24] <Mars> I hope upgrading it will help me with my openGL problems :)
[12:24] <jsubl2> !find ktorrent
[12:24] <ubotu> ktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 325 kB, Installed size: 1248 kB
[12:25] <Strike4ce> i dont have it on here
[12:25] <Strike4ce> can i stop this thru terminal?
[12:25] <Strike4ce> its installing the files
[12:25] <Mars> I dont know why but after i edited xorg.cof my window deco works wrong, and shows info that there is not OpenGL :/
[12:26] <Sgep> Can I replace my whole sources.list with the one from mentioned by ubotu?
[12:26] <Mars> BTW where can i find or download sources list for 5.10?
[12:27] <Kevman> DAMN. There's no kedit and kate crashes!?
[12:27] <Sgep> !sources
[12:27] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:28] <Kevman> Wow, Breezy is broke bad.
[12:28] <Mars> do i have to delete # to make source work or i have to leave it?
[12:28] <jsubl2> not for me
[12:29] <jsubl2> delete the # to enable the source.. # comments it out
[12:29] <frank23> Mars: you have do delete #   # means a comment
[12:29] <Kevman> There's no kedit, kate won't run, and I can't apt-get install kedit, it has unmet dependencies!
[12:29] <Mars> you can use pico
[12:29] <gdh> nano :)
[12:29] <trav> can someone please help me with the partition setup to install linuix
[12:30] <jsubl2> Kevman: my fresh install did not see any of those problems
[12:30] <Kevman> Mind did. What could be wrong?
[12:30] <jsubl2> trav if you question is more specific
[12:30] <jsubl2> trav then maybe
[12:30] <Strike4ce> trav is this a dual boot?
[12:31] <trav> strike ace yes
[12:31] <trav> hda1 windows for my gf, hdb1 linux for me
[12:32] <Strike4ce> trav http://whoiam55.at.preempted.net/?p=18
[12:32] <Kevman> Why didn't they include kedit?
[12:32] <slow-motion> n8
[12:32] <Strike4ce> how big of a drive trav?
[12:33] <trav> 250g
[12:33] <Strike4ce> wow
[12:33] <frank23> Kevman: kedit is in universe
[12:33] <Strike4ce> how much room do you think you will need?
[12:33] <Strike4ce> did you do a backup?
[12:33] <_brady> can I just do a upgrade-dist to go from 5.0.4 to 5.10 or do I need to modify my sources.list file?
[12:33] <Strike4ce> plus you need to defragment that drive before you partition
[12:34] <Kevman> frank23: I know, but it won't install.
[12:34] <trav> well i just want the big one for myself, the other is a 10g, mostly filled with my gf's msoffice stuff
[12:35] <frank23> !tell _brady about upgrade2breezy
[12:35] <Strike4ce> the other partition? or do you have more than one hardrive?
[12:36] <trav> yes two hard drives
[12:36] <troy> apt is sooo slow *whines*
[12:37] <frank23> troy: today is a bit exceptional for the servers
[12:37] <Strike4ce> well i think that linux will make itself the master drive so when you partition it will ask what size if you want her to have only 10gb then make yours around 230 or 240gb
[12:37] <Duder29> man I have tried 3 different CDROM's and I still get errors when trying to boot up the install cd (kubuntu) :(
[12:37] <Duder29> this sucks
[12:37] <Kevman>   kedit: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.3) but 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu7 is to be installed
[12:37] <Strike4ce> ohh ok
[12:38] <Kevman> I get that when I try to apt-get kedit
[12:38] <Strike4ce> you'll have to install windows on her 10gb hardrive
[12:38] <Duder29> it says "cannot initialize debconf template"
[12:38] <frank23> Kevman: did you change everything in your sources.list to breezy?
[12:38] <Kevman> frank23: I shouldn't have to. Its a fresh install.
[12:38] <frank23> Kevman: oh
[12:39] <trav> windows is already installed on the other
[12:39] <Kevman> Anyway, I have no text editor to look at sources.list!
[12:39] <trav> and how would i make a linux-swap on that same drive too?
[12:39] <Strike4ce> ok im not sure but you have to set that 10gb to master too and when you start up it will ask what to boot from
[12:40] <frank23> Kevman: just use nano in a shell
[12:41] <Strike4ce> read the link I gVE YOU TRAV
[12:41] <conn> hi, I set up samba file sharing, and I can access my ubuntu machine via windows, and vice versa, but something's bugging me. I can't ping the hostname of the Windows machine (called "inspiron"), but in smbclient it's listed as \\INSPIRON. It's been a while since I used linux, but I'm wondering should e.g. "ping inspiron" work or do I need to configure something else?
[12:41] <_brady> any ideas on upgrading?  can I just update  my sources.list? and if so, could some kind soul tell me the change?
[12:42] <trav> k i am now thx
[12:42] <_brady> conn: inspiron is your netbois name...it needs to be in dns to ping
[12:42] <_brady> conn: easy way to fix is to add inspiron to your /etc/hosts file
[12:42] <frank23> !tell _brady about upgrade2breezy
[12:43] <frank23> _brady: look at what ubotu sent you
[12:43] <Strike4ce> _brady use this: sudo sed -i s/hoary/breezy/ /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:43] <conn> _brady: thanks, but is there no easier way to dynamically add netbios names to the dns as a client connects to the workgroup?
[12:43] <Duder29> can anyone help me?
[12:43] <frank23> Duder29: when do you get that error?
[12:44] <Kevman> Eh, I just uncommecnted a shitload of repos in sources.list.
[12:44] <Duder29> when I press enter right after the cd boots up
[12:44] <Duder29> its says KUBUNTU press enter to blah blah
[12:45] <frank23> Duder29: do you have any special hardware? sata drives, etc that is not common
[12:45] <Duder29> then it shows all the words goin down the screen and then it starts sayin it cant initialize stuff then just stops
[12:45] <Duder29> no I dont
[12:45] <Strike4ce> put the cd in and then do a restart hit f12 on a dell system and then select boot from cd
[12:45] <_brady> conn: probably a dynamic way, but I don't know how
[12:46] <Duder29> its an old ELITEGROUP K7VZA MB with 512 ram and a 1.66ghz AMD proc
[12:46] <Mustafu> man, I wish I had a machine with those specs atleast ;)
[12:46] <Duder29> lmao
[12:46] <_brady> frank23 and strike4ce thanks!  I didn't see the ubotu tab
[12:46] <Mustafu> I have a P2-400 with 384 ram
[12:46] <Mustafu> :(
[12:46] <Duder29> this is just a spare pc that Id like to learn linux with, but looks like Im not gonna get it to work
[12:47] <Sgep> It's sayign 12h
[12:47] <Strike4ce> Duder29 what is the problem it wont boot from cd?
[12:47] <Sgep> How do I speed the thing up!
[12:47] <frank23> Duder29: yeah I don't know what you can do.
[12:48] <Duder29> well it boots from the cd but then runs into problems before it ever starts to install
[12:48] <Strike4ce> damn how many files is this? Im at 350 and it stil says 5hrs left
[12:49] <Strike4ce> I know
[12:49] <Strike4ce> What key are you hitting to get it to boot to cd
[12:49] <Strike4ce> fkey
[12:49] <jsubl2> in less time i have gotten the 386 and amd64 version from torrent
[12:49] <Strike4ce> what fkey
[12:49] <jsubl2> i am seeding now
[12:49] <Snoopinator> yop
[12:50] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 can i stop this installation w/o screwing things up?
[12:50] <jsubl2> the servers are bogged down... release day
[12:50] <Strike4ce> thru terminal?
[12:50] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: is it still downloading files
[12:50] <Snoopinator> does anywone knows where i can get glib ? it seems that gcc needs it
[12:50] <dverzolla> anyone knows a fast mirror to download kubuntu?
[12:50] <Strike4ce> yes installing
[12:50] <dverzolla> torrent sucks ;|
[12:50] <Tm_T> Snoopinator: use apt-get
[12:51] <Duder29> I have it booting from cd then press any key
[12:51] <jsubl2> once it starts installing i think you are committed..  it downloads all files first
[12:51] <Sgep> Can I redirect all networkability to apt-get and apt-get's children?
[12:51] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 then i can apt get torrent and start from there right?
[12:51] <Snoopinator> Tm_T:  i tried ... but it says no package found
[12:51] <Duder29> then it goes to the screen to press enter to continue
[12:51] <jsubl2> yeah
[12:51] <jsubl2> dverzolla: i got over 400kb/sec off my torrent.. worked really well
[12:51] <Strike4ce> ok its not giving your system enough time to boot from cd so you need to push that key like a madman
[12:52] <Strike4ce> Duder29
[12:52] <dverzolla> jsubl2, I get 135kb/s
[12:52] <Sgep> Is 30.3kB/s normal?
[12:52] <dverzolla> jsubl2, I'm from Brazil
[12:52] <jsubl2> ahh.. i am usa
[12:52] <mcquaid> has anyone tried to compile a qt app in breezy yet?
[12:52] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 i cant back out of terminal now?
[12:52] <dverzolla> jsubl2, :) many torrents
[12:52] <mcquaid> i've compiled a few with hoary without issue but now i get configure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt3
[12:52] <seife> hi
[12:52] <Strike4ce> you get that Duder29?
[12:52] <seife> i want to test KDE
[12:53] <Sgep> If I were to close out of Konversation, would it go any faster?
[12:53] <seife> why u guys prefer kde than gnome?
[12:53] <seife> im downloading kubuntu breezy w00t.
[12:53] <Strike4ce> Duder29 ok its not giving your system enough time to boot from cd so you need to push that key like a madman
[12:53] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: you dist-upgrading from command line just <control>c it
[12:53] <Mars__^> HI me again i have question i am going to upgrade to 5.10 but forft i used apt-get -f install. And then i will use   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is it good to do it in this way? (i updated sooources list and i used pt-get -f install, because when i wanted to go to 5.10 it showed me some problems and asked to use previous command)
[12:53] <Ayiden> does the new kubuntu 5.10 include nvidia drivers?
[12:53] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 do I need to save?
[12:53] <seth_k|lappy> Ayiden, of course, so did 5.04
[12:53] <jsubl2> no
[12:53] <jsubl2> Strike4ce: no
[12:54] <Strike4ce> just close ok
[12:54] <jsubl2> yeah
[12:54] <Strike4ce> ok whats the command to get torrent?
[12:54] <seth_k|lappy> mcquaid, you need the QT dev packages
[12:54] <jsubl2> sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[12:54] <Ayiden> okay how about java?
[12:54] <dverzolla> My Upload rate it's gt download :D
[12:54] <seth_k|lappy> libqt3-mt-dev or something, mcquaid
[12:54] <mcquaid> seth_k|lappy, yeah i have those thats the weird thing
[12:54] <Duder29> Strike4ce what key do u mean>
[12:54] <Duder29> ?
[12:54] <seth_k|lappy> mcquaid, they changed names in breezy
[12:54] <seth_k|lappy> make sure you have the new ones
[12:55] <mcquaid> yes they were all removed on update, i've just reinstalled them
[12:55] <dverzolla> kubuntu are sponsor from ubuntu?
[12:55] <Snoopinator> any ide to get glic easyly ?
[12:55] <Snoopinator> idea
[12:55] <reuben> i love you all1
[12:55] <frank23> Snoopinator: lol
[12:55] <Snoopinator> :p
[12:55] <Strike4ce> when you boot to cd you have to hit a F12 or something key one of those I dont know try f5
[12:56] <Snoopinator> hmm it's late here, cya guys
[12:56] <Kevman> Alrighty! I'm starting to get into this new Kubuntu.
[12:57] <Duder29> to make it do what Strike4ce? the cd boots up... it just crashes after many erros
[12:57] <Duder29> errors*
[12:57] <frank23> Kevman: did you fix that kedit thing?
[12:57] <Strike4ce> well you better start over and check that drive for errors and defragment it
[12:57] <Strike4ce> before you do anything
[12:59] <god-zero> Strike4ce: defrag is for ms users
[12:59] <frank23> Strike4ce: there is no defrag equivalent in ext3
[01:00] <dverzolla> anyone got update from ubuntu 5.04 to kubunto 5.10?
[01:00] <dverzolla> using kubuntu-desktop?
[01:00] <god-zero> dverzolla: i do ido!
[01:00] <Mustafu> heh
[01:00] <dverzolla> god-zero, and.. work fine?
[01:00] <BOOTito> anybody can help me whit eagle driver on kubuntu breezy?
[01:01] <Strike4ce> i thought he was trying to install sorry
[01:01] <god-zero> ok 90%
[01:01] <Strike4ce> how do i add a cdrom
[01:01] <dverzolla> god-zero, What about 10% ? :D
[01:01] <Strike4ce> i need to add my cdrom to the sourcelist
[01:02] <god-zero> goofie stuff, prolly kde 3.5 stuff
[01:02] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 how do i add my cdrom to apt's sourcelist
[01:02] <Strike4ce> i did apt-cdrom
[01:03] <god-zero> this  irc # is too fast right now, no chance for real coversations :(
[01:03] <Strike4ce> jsubl2 can you help me?
[01:03] <Elsidox> hello. Im stuck between chooseing kubuntu or kanotix can someone tell me a few reaons why to pick one or the other?
[01:04] <frank23> Elsidox: is kanotix based on debian?
[01:04] <Duder29> Strike4ce I am trying to install. So u think it might be migh hard drive that is bad?
[01:04] <Strike4ce> i dunno Duder29?
[01:04] <Strike4ce> anyone know how to add cdrom to apt source list?
[01:04] <Elsidox> frank23, yes
[01:05] <god-zero> Duder29: prolly not
[01:05] <Duder29> k
[01:05] <frank23> Elsidox: try both ;-)
[01:05] <Duder29> I dont get it
[01:05] <djib> Strike4ce: apt-cdrom add
[01:06] <Elsidox> frank23, lol I dont have enuff cds
[01:06] <Strike4ce> it says put a disc in drive? any disc?
[01:06] <Strike4ce> is that so it will see the cdrom?
[01:07] <EcksEightySix> Elsidox, go kubuntu then! it was released today! fresh stuff :)
[01:07] <Duder29> I got it!!!! I figured out what was wrong! :) I had a bad stick of RAM. I took it out now its installing!! :)
[01:08] <EcksEightySix> Duder29, hot swaping ram stick? :) cool
[01:08] <Strike4ce> it failed to mount the cdrom???/
[01:08] <Strike4ce> WTF???
[01:08] <steph> how do i make my system boot to text mode rather than gui?
[01:09] <steph> if i make my default runlevel 1 rather than 2, will that do it?
[01:09] <steph> runlevels in ubuntu are different than slack apparently
[01:10] <Kevman> Why can't I get a refresh rate higher than 60Hz?
[01:24] <Kevman> Anyone know what the name of the .dll Xine needs to play WMA?
[01:29] <_brady> kevman: I think you need the w32codecs package...though I don't know where to find it
[01:29] <god-zero> again: anyone else seeding kubuntu? I'm only pushing, say, 64KB/s. Anyone else pushing better?
[01:30] <_brady> god-zero: joining the torrent soon
[01:30] <_brady> I'll let you know what I get
[01:31] <god-zero> kk,good, I'm not sure if I'm getting a badconnect due to ktorrent
[01:31] <Juerd> god-zero: I stopped seeding after uploading over 20 GB
[01:31] <god-zero> holly
[01:31] <Juerd> Big pipe
[01:31] <Juerd> This was a matter of hours.
[01:31] <jsubl2> god-zero: i am  not seeding that much right now  50 someodd kb/sec
[01:32] <_brady> kevman: http://nozell.com/blog/archives/2005/07/22/w32codecs-for-ubuntu-hoary/
[01:32] <jsubl2> downloads are complete.. just seeding
[01:32] <god-zero> I D/Led about 300-400KB/s, but I can't saturate my upload
[01:32] <jsubl2> god-zero: yeah that is about what i got
[01:33] <jsubl2> i have mine capped at 80 kb
[01:33] <penguinboy> my badger is downloading at 16.4 kb/sec....this sucks
[01:33] <jsubl2> penguinboy: iso or torrent
[01:33] <penguinboy> iso
[01:34] <god-zero> kubuntu 386 iso
[01:34] <jsubl2> yeah that servers are all really bogged down.. torrent might be faster
[01:34] <penguinboy> is the torrent faster???
[01:34] <jsubl2> penguinboy: can be
[01:34] <jsubl2> normally is when everyone is going for iso's
[01:34] <jsubl2> i have uploaded 350m
[01:35] <jsubl2> i got the amd64 and 386
[01:35] <god-zero> hop on the torrent, I got bandwidth to spare (386 install iso)
[01:35] <jsubl2> god-zero: usa?
[01:35] <god-zero> yes
[01:35] <jsubl2> me too.. dallas
[01:35] <god-zero> minnesota
[01:36] <jsubl2> i just felt a cold breeze
[01:36] <penguinboy> i am trying to install bittorrent now
[01:36] <jsubl2> i can dcc you the torrent file
[01:37] <god-zero> jsubl2: lol, It's like 60 here... not too  cold
[01:37] <penguinboy> how do you download a bittorrent?
[01:37] <_brady> penguinboy: me too...the apt servers are totally bogged
[01:37] <jsubl2> sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[01:38] <penguinboy> thanks sub2
[01:38] <jsubl2> :)
[01:38] <penguinboy> brb
[01:38] <god-zero> d/l the *.torrent to /home/mynamehere open ktorrent, load /home/mynamehere/cooldownload.torrent.... wait a bit
[01:39] <jsubl2> i like release days.. get a big torrent grid going.. kinda fun
[01:40] <god-zero> does anyone want me to e-mail the .torrent to them?
[01:40] <_brady> what repo is ktorrent in?  I get a "couldn't find package" error
[01:40] <god-zero><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:40] <jsubl2> universe _brady
[01:40] <_brady> tks
[01:40] <jsubl2> i will send it god-zero
[01:41] <hydrogen> ktorrent is in extragear.. so ya, it'd be universe
[01:41] <_brady> hmmm
[01:41] <_brady> I have eb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe in my sources.list
[01:41] <jsubl2> god-zero: it is off to you
[01:42] <jsubl2> _brady: do you have gtorrent
[01:42] <_brady> nope
[01:42] <hydrogen> or just bittornado/bittorrent work
[01:42] <_brady> I was trying to d/l bittorrent via kynaptic, but it keeps timing out
[01:42] <jsubl2> gnome-btdownload bittornado-gui
[01:43] <_brady> unfortunately I have no bt clients :-(
[01:43] <_brady> I just installed kubuntu last night
[01:43] <jsubl2> sudo apt-cache search torrent
[01:43] <_brady> the 5.0.4 version, of course
[01:43] <god-zero> _brady: thanks, but I was offering the torrent
[01:43] <god-zero> lol, I got your email
[01:44] <god-zero> hydrogen: bittornado should work good
[01:45] <_brady> well, I may have a larger issue...if ktorrent is in universe, and it (universe) is in my source.list file, then WTF?
[01:45] <_brady> sources.list*
[01:45] <god-zero> hrm
[01:46] <jsubl2> i don't know about hoary and ktorrent i have been running breezy for a couple of months
[01:46] <_brady> apt-cache search torrent returns a few hits, but not ktorrent
[01:46] <jsubl2> use a different client
[01:46] <_brady> ok...just wanted to make sure I had the repos right
[01:46] <Octane> are kde 3.5 beta packages out for amd64?
[01:47] <god-zero> sec
[01:47] <Kevman> What should I use to play video? Xine and kaffiene do nothing but crash :/
[01:47] <jsubl2> sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[01:47] <jsubl2> then get the codecs
[01:49] <god-zero> section : universe/net component : universe according to synaptic
[01:49] <god-zero> Kevman: : motherboard adio (ac'97)?
[01:51] <god-zero> Octane: nno, not to my knowledge
[01:52] <jsubl2> Kevman: codecs are wget http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[01:53] <god-zero> _brady: jsubl2: I'm running 3.5 b1.. ktorrent didn't connect before. May be unique to me
[01:54] <god-zero> before= 3.4
[01:54] <Sgep> hiall
[01:54] <_brady> I went with qtorrent...it was small and I was getting a lousy d/l rate with apt servers
[01:54] <Duder29> is there a way to get games for the new kubuntu? like (minesweeper etc..) or are they already on here? Im new to linux
[01:55] <god-zero> Duder29: I have 40ish? right now
[01:55] <Sgep> Is there a way to download/install breezy somehow w/ rsync, or am I talking about something I know nothing about?
[01:55] <Duder29> how?
[01:55] <god-zero> Sgep: do the torrent thing
[01:56] <god-zero> Duder29: 95% are simple games
[01:56] <jsubl2> god-zero: that is the same version i am using
[01:56] <god-zero> all are in repos
[01:56] <Duder29> yea thats what I mean, how did u get them?
[01:57] <god-zero> would you like me to postbin my sources.list?
[01:57] <Duder29> sure
[01:57] <Duder29> :)
[01:57] <Duder29> Im new like I said, so Im not real sure how to do it
[01:58] <jsubl2> Duder29: did you get the install cd to boot
[01:58] <Sgep> Can I cancel the apt-get?
[01:58] <jsubl2> as long as it is still downloading you can control c
[01:59] <Duder29> yes
[01:59] <Duder29> I did
[02:00] <Duder29> I want firefox!! :)
[02:00] <Sgep> After I upgrade via CD, then do I do the dist-upgrade?
[02:00] <Duder29> I dont know how... but i want it
[02:00] <Duder29> ;)
[02:00] <_brady> have you tried sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox?
[02:01] <_brady> that's how I did it last night
[02:01] <Duder29> no
[02:01] <god-zero> Duder29: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/392918
[02:01] <Duder29> I dont know anything about linux yet
[02:01] <Duder29> I want to learn
[02:01] <god-zero> learn you will my young padawan
[02:01] <Duder29> ;)
[02:02] <_brady> thanks for the pastebin
[02:02] <Duder29> god-zero ok what do I do once I copy all that?
[02:02] <Floker> hello
[02:02] <Sgep> failed
[02:02] <Floker> i've been stopped by the police 10mins ago :[
[02:02] <god-zero> Duder29: that should be your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <Duder29> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/392918
[02:04] <god-zero> Floker: how fast wee you going?
[02:04] <Floker> that was not the reason
[02:04] <Floker> i was driving without headligh
[02:04] <Floker> t
[02:04] <Floker> (2h at night)
[02:05] <Floker> a well was about 10kph too fast. but nevermind
[02:05] <god-zero> Duder: sudo kedit.... /etc/apt/sources.list...
[02:06] <Floker> they were looking for some thief
[02:06] <Floker> and they sayd he would wear the same clothes
[02:06] <duder> god-zero how do I save that to my source list? it says it cannot overite it
[02:06] <Floker> and they jumpt on the brakes and i almost hit em
[02:06] <Floker> idiots
[02:06] <god-zero> sudo
[02:06] <god-zero> sudo = IamGod
[02:06] <_brady> does bittorrent dislike NATs?
[02:07] <Floker> nats dislike bittorent
[02:07] <god-zero> kdesu for gui stuff
[02:07] <_brady> port forward?
[02:07] <god-zero> "kdesu kedit"
[02:07] <Floker> but you can set up your router to "like bt" ;)
[02:07] <_brady> is it worth it?
[02:07] <Floker> yes abolutely
[02:08] <_brady> k...udp or tcp (or rtfm ;-) ?
[02:08] <Duder29> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:08] <Floker> rtfm i guess ;)
[02:08] <Floker> depends
[02:08] <Floker> google for "port forwarding" + bittorrent
[02:08] <_brady> tks
[02:08] <Floker> np
[02:09] <duder> hey guys I have the linux drivers for my sound card... how do I install them?
[02:10] <Floker> duder: what files do you have?
[02:12] <satafterh> where  do i get the dvd version
[02:12] <Floker> of what
[02:12] <satafterh> kubuntu
[02:12] <duder> Floker I am trying to find them
[02:12] <Floker> i think there is no dvd version
[02:12] <Floker> k duder
[02:12] <Floker> ok
[02:12] <satafterh> the site says there is
[02:12] <Floker> mh
[02:13] <Floker> wtf? kubuntu 5.10 is out
[02:13] <Floker> nice
[02:13] <Floker> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/kubuntu/5.10/ this is everything
[02:13] <Floker> there IS a DVD version of UBuNtU
[02:14] <Floker> you may install ubuntu as "base" and then kde ;)
[02:14] <duder> Floker I see a folder in the drivers that says Linux, when I click that I see Caldera, RedFlag, and Redhat
[02:14] <Floker> what distrbution do you have?
[02:15] <Floker> and what type of soundcard
[02:15] <duder> the new kubuntu
[02:15] <Floker> well, i would guess that sound works out of the box
[02:15] <duder> and my sound is "VIA686" embeded on my MB
[02:16] <Floker> and it doestn work?
[02:16] <duder> no my sound does not work
[02:16] <Floker> mh
[02:16] <duder> I get a box that pops up saying it cannot find my sound
[02:16] <duder> mixer cannot be found
[02:16] <Floker> sry man, im a noob. but you can check out www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:17] <willie> I just failed to recompile my kernel with this error..
[02:17] <willie> make[2] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[02:17] <willie> anybody got a clue -- cos I don't
[02:17] <willie> cmd was -- fakeroot make-kpkg -append-to-version=willie-athlon kernel_image --initrd binary
[02:18] <Floker> sorry willie i dont know
[02:18] <Floker> a well
[02:18] <willie> s'OK you are in good company
[02:18] <Floker> actulally, there was some article at www.ubuntuusers.de but its in german
[02:19] <willie> ich sprachen ein bisschen
[02:19] <Floker> hehe
[02:19] <god-zero> Willie's compiling a kernel, and asking us noobs what's wrong.  We can now focus on 1 or 2 probs
[02:26] <penguinboy> how do you install bittorrent
[02:26] <god-zero> My god, 10ihs hours ago, this irc was scarry
[02:26] <duder> so no one knows how I can figure out how to install my sound drivers?
[02:26] <Floker> apt-get install bittorrent?
[02:27] <duder> :(
[02:28] <god-zero> duder: a box like can't find dev/dsp?
[02:28] <god-zero> or different?
[02:28] <duder> what do u mean god-zero?
[02:28] <willie> god-zero: no prb -- no offence taken  :-)
[02:30] <god-zero> Willie: some times I overthink things and thing person X might be offended
[02:30] <god-zero> s/thing/think
[02:30] <duder> god-zero do u have any clue how I can install these drivers that i have downloaded?
[02:31] <korkster> evening all
[02:32] <willie> "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "I can't configure Slackware".  <[02:32] <god-zero> duder: can you pls re-state the prob please?
[02:33] <god-zero> willie: I know where u live
[02:34] <willie> yeah the domain is a bit of a give away
[02:34] <duder> sure. I have an onboard audio device and when I boot up kubuntu I get an error saying it cannot find my sound device. so I went and found my drivers online and it said they are linux drivers. but when I look in the folder after I extract. I do not see a "Ubuntu" folder
[02:34] <willie> god-zero: where do you live?
[02:34] <god-zero> willie: in the frozen north
[02:34] <penguinboy> i wanna ask a stupid quesiton....i just installed the bittorrent client....now how do I install the badger through bittorrent????
[02:34] <god-zero> minn
[02:35] <willie> Aberdeen?
[02:35] <god-zero> willie: minnesota
[02:36] <willie> considerably south of me :-)
[02:36] <god-zero> penguinboy: boy do you have to work on your conversation skills
[02:36] <penguinboy> lol
[02:36] <god-zero> i thiink you meen
[02:36] <penguinboy> yes?
[02:37] <god-zero> download the .torrent to /home/meliveshere
[02:37] <duder> god-zero what do u think?
[02:37] <god-zero> then pen the torrent with bitTorrent/ec
[02:38] <god-zero> dud?
[02:38] <god-zero> open
[02:39] <god-zero> willie: where do you live?
[02:39] <stodge> Does anyone have a sub-menu in their Start menu called "Debian"?
[02:39] <willie> I thought you knew :-)
[02:39] <willie> hint -- its not Kentucky
[02:39] <penguinboy> sounds difficult
[02:40] <penguinboy> i live in Kentukcy
[02:40] <thoreauputic> stodge: you have that if you installed the "menu" package (and maybe menu-xdg)
[02:40] <stodge> Is that installed by default?
[02:40] <stodge> I don't remember installing it
[02:40] <god-zero> willie: aberdeen? where is that? stodge: yes
[02:40] <stodge> Is it safe to remove?
[02:40] <willie> god-zero: Glasgow Scotland and its 0141
[02:40] <duder> how do I turn off army time?
[02:40] <duder> lol
[02:41] <willie> which strangely enough is our local dia code :-) as well as the time
[02:41] <thoreauputic> stodge: I guess sudo apt-get --remove purge menu menu-xdg would remove it (never tried)
[02:41] <willie> army time?
[02:41] <duder> yes
[02:41] <stodge> lol am I brave enough? :)
[02:41] <thoreauputic> stodge: bah sorry - apt-get remove --purge
[02:41] <duder> 20:21 instead of 8:41
[02:41] <stodge> :) Thanks
[02:41] <willie> what is army time? GMT zulu?
[02:42] <duder> 20:41*
[02:42] <reagleBRKLN> how do i get java, limewire, azureus, etc. in breezy?
[02:42] <duder> uhh
[02:42] <duder> I just want it to say 8:41pm
[02:42] <duder> lol
[02:42] <thoreauputic> americans refer to 24hr time as army time apparently
[02:42] <jsubl2> duder right click on the clock -- date and time format -- time & dates --
[02:42] <stodge> I removed it using adept - it wants to stop kdm???
[02:42] <duder> correct
[02:42] <god-zero> army time = 24 clock.. more specifically zulu/GMT
[02:42] <duder> so what do I set it as?
[02:43] <stodge> It's removing my whole damn KDE!!
[02:43] <jsubl2> pH:MM:SS AMPM
[02:43] <thoreauputic> stodge: well you better not do it then :)
[02:43] <stodge> lol
[02:43] <jsubl2> duder use the drop down and select it
[02:44] <duder> I selected it and applied but it didnt change
[02:44] <duder> do I have to restart?
[02:44] <willie> duder: nope
[02:44] <god-zero> dud: not really
[02:44] <duder> still says 20:44
[02:44] <jsubl2> logout and back in
[02:44] <god-zero> next time time =ok
[02:45] <duder> ahh ok cool
[02:45] <duder> now if I could get my sound working I will be good to go:)
[02:45] <god-zero> prolly
[02:45] <duder> :)
[02:46] <god-zero> try yhe dirrent output engines, some don't work for me either
[02:46] <crimsun> duder: lspci -v |grep -i audio
[02:46] <Hobbsee> duder: what were you trying to do, sorry?  get the clock in 12 hour time?
[02:46] <korkster> thoreauputic I just refer to it as 24-hour time :)
[02:46] <Floker> hey
[02:46] <Floker> is anyone on efnet right now?
[02:46] <Floker> need help
[02:46] <duder> crimson do I type that in the terminal?
[02:46] <korkster> heya Hobbsee :)
[02:46] <Hobbsee> duder: yes
[02:46] <Hobbsee> hi korkster :)
[02:46] <korkster> Hobbsee I'm upgrading right now...didnt know it would take this long tho
[02:47] <Hobbsee> hehe...reps are very slow...
[02:47] <duder> it didnt do anything.. it just went down one line
[02:47] <Hobbsee> you're getting it from a mirror?
[02:47] <duder> I downloaded my drivers for the sound but I dont know how to install them
[02:47] <crimsun> duder: old computer? usb sound card?
[02:47] <korkster> Hobbsee nah just the repos...its no big deal
[02:47] <Floker> are there any officials on irc if some admin is a real prick and i want to report?
[02:47] <korkster> I got time
[02:47] <Hobbsee> getting the thunderbird update at 11.9kbps
[02:47] <Hobbsee> lol true
[02:47] <duder> ehh oldER MB onboard sound
[02:48] <korkster> Im just crossing my fingers that it all works :)
[02:48] <Hobbsee> same, in another terminal, so i can still do everything here
[02:48] <Hobbsee> korkster: yeah, definetly, hope so
[02:48] <Hobbsee> duder: everything turned up in alsamixer?
[02:48] <god-zero> korkster: forget the crossing the fingers.
[02:48] <duder> uhh it says mixer not found
[02:48] <Floker> :(
[02:49] <god-zero> gcc 4. 0 made it way hard
[02:49] <korkster> god-zero no crossing the fingers ???
[02:49] <korkster> that means either its a lock, or I dont have a chance :)
[02:49] <crimsun> duder: lspnp -v output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:49] <korkster> heya crimsun :)
[02:49] <god-zero> I think gcc 44.0 caused a lotta hard times
[02:49] <god-zero> 4.0
[02:50] <duder> duder@kubuntu:~$ lspnp -v output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:50] <duder> usage: lspnp [-b]  [-v[v] ]  [device #]
[02:50] <duder> crimsun thats what it said
[02:50] <reagleBRKLN> hrmm using kubuntu breezy and have a cdrom mounted, but left click to eject, the option ain't there?
[02:51] <jsubl2> how about on the right click
[02:51] <reagleBRKLN> how to unmount/eject?
[02:51] <reagleBRKLN> oops, yes, i meant alt-click, option not there
[02:51] <reagleBRKLN> (have my buttons reversed)
[02:53] <crimsun> duder: paste output from lspnp -v to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:53] <reagleBRKLN> the alt-click option in media://, but not desktop
[02:53] <duder> usage: lspnp [-b]  [-v[v] ]  [device #]
[02:54] <crimsun> duder: lspnp -v
[02:54] <reagleBRKLN> now, how to get java/limewire/freemind/azureus working
[02:54] <crimsun> don't paste here.
[02:55] <duder> Im not sure what u want me to do with lspnp -v
[02:55] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[02:55] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:57] <duder> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3051
[02:58] <crimsun> sudo mount /proc/bus/usb
[02:58] <crimsun> err
[02:58] <crimsun> pnp, not usb
[02:59] <duder> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3053
[03:01] <crimsun> duder: I'll be back later, but you need to mount /proc/bus/pnp before I can really help
[03:02] <duder> crimsun I dont know how to do that
[03:02] <brady_> duder: could you post the output of "dmesg" ?
[03:03] <brady_> need to see if your sound card is being detected
[03:07] <duder> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3054
[03:11] <duder> what ya think brady?
[03:11] <brady_> sorry..waas away from the keyboard...looking at it now
[03:12] <duder> k thanks
[03:13] <Ravensky> hey, what's the command to reconfigure X again?
[03:15] <brady_> duder: well, doesn't look like your sound chipset is being autodetected.  do you know what sound card/chipset you have?
[03:15] <satafterh> what is and where is Guidance configuration tools.
[03:16] <duder> yes ( VIA 686 )
[03:17] <jsubl2> maybe sudo modprobe via82xx
[03:17] <satafterh> never mind just read about it
[03:17] <orangey> hey all! are the backports broken?
[03:18] <satafterh> hay all there are no dvd images
[03:18] <jsubl2> it is only 1cd
[03:18] <brady_> duder: try what jsubl2 suggested.  if nothing happens, take a look at the syslog file at /var/log/messages
[03:18] <satafterh> no for the dvd version
[03:18] <jsubl2> don't know
[03:19] <duder> no it said it wasnt found
[03:19] <duder> :(
[03:19] <brady_> that modprobe wasn't found?
[03:19] <satafterh> i only have dvdr right now and i live in the woods
[03:19] <jsubl2> satafterh: wont it burn a regular iso.. would think it would
[03:19] <strike4ce> Will it hurt to install some part of the upgrades?
[03:20] <duder> satafterh just burn the iso to a dvd
[03:20] <satafterh> dont know never tried that
[03:20] <duder> it wil lwork
[03:20] <brady_> strike4ce: I've only been using kubuntu for 24 hours, but I'd assume not
[03:20] <satafterh> i like the way you think
[03:20] <jsubl2> Duder brady configuring the old isa pnp stuff.. man that is tough especially when you ain't done it for 5 years
[03:21] <jsubl2> Duder brady_ i am positive i can't do it
[03:21] <duder> yea I bet
[03:22] <satafterh> Mmmmmm Homer like duder
[03:22] <brady_> duder: did the modprobe command fail, or did the module loading fail?
[03:23] <jsubl2> no output is a good thing.. duder brady_ run alsamixer in terminal window to be sure
[03:23] <brady_> jsubl2: I don't think his sound chipset is being detected.  If it is it isn't in his dmesg output
[03:24] <jsubl2> ok
[03:24] <brady_> I'm a *buntu and debian noob, but I've used redhat for years
[03:24] <brady_> so I could be way off base ;-)
[03:24] <satafterh> i tried to install redhat one time
[03:25] <satafterh> just once
[03:26] <satafterh> but ive tried to install alot of things, if i cant figure it out in 30 sec's i dont like it
[03:26] <brady_> actually I think fedora 4 is really nice...but I'm testing kubuntu on an old laptop of mine
[03:26] <satafterh> short attention span and all
[03:27] <brady_> yeah...each distro has its own tricks.
[03:28] <satafterh> i have tried about 12 distro's in the last 3 month, trying to get away from the man ya see. There are a few good one i liked, but fell in love with kubuntu. I lover here, thank your ubuntu
[03:31] <brady_> yeah, so far so good with my experience with kubuntu.
[03:32] <satafterh> i do have a video and audio sync problem with movies though
[03:32] <brady_> anyone out there on the torrent?  I'm getting ~20kBps down, ~2kBps up
[03:32] <satafterh> but other than that i an very happy with it
[03:32] <brady_> what are you using to view the movies?
[03:33] <brady_> or more specifically, what audio output are you using?
[03:33] <brady_> I've had sound lag with arts and sdl
[03:33] <brady_> I output straight to alsa
[03:33] <satafterh> movie synce sproblem is with everythin i use, mplayer, kaffine and so on.
[03:33] <brady_> but the channel can't be shared
[03:34] <brady_> I've always been a KDE fan, but I've always hated arts
[03:34] <brady_> maybe I just don't know enough about it
[03:35] <Bicchi> on the restricted modules whats the difference between amd64 generic and amd64-k8
[03:35] <strike4ce> Ok how do i get in to change my source list
[03:35] <satafterh> I have tried differant audio out puts, i did find a solution one time but forgot what it was and installed everythin after a hardrive crash. I belive i had to install something but dont really remember
[03:35] <strike4ce> what command?
[03:35] <jsubl2> Bicchi: k8 is for the k8 chipset mobo's
[03:35] <strike4ce> what command do I need to get into source list?
[03:36] <brady_> I use $vi /etc/apt/sources.list , but I'm an old-timer
[03:36] <Bicchi> jsubl2: excuse my ignorance but how do i know if i have a k8 mobo
[03:37] <trs4ece> How can I get sound to work on Gaim while using Kubuntu?  It works in Ubuntu but not in Kubuntu...
[03:37] <jsubl2> Bicchi: manual  or look up specs from hp for instance  mine is an nforce chipset.  said on the box so i use th generic
[03:37] <brady_> w00t...bt is 57kBps down 1kBps up
[03:38] <jsubl2> i will probably leave my seed up all night and kill it in the morning
[03:38] <brady_> we appreciate it ;-)
[03:39] <trs4ece> Does anybody use Gaim?
[03:39] <jsubl2> i am only pumping 55kb
[03:39] <Bicchi> jsubl2: my motherboard model is msi k8n neo2. i guess that would qualify as a k8?
[03:39] <jsubl2> Bicchi: sure sounds like it to me
[03:40] <jsubl2> Bicchi: if you add a kernel ubuntu leaves the old there so you can just boot it if the new one don't work
[03:40] <brady_> I've used gaim before, but usually ignore the audio ;-)
[03:40] <trs4ece> So audio really can work for Gaim in Kubuntu... did you have to change any settings?
[03:40] <Bicchi> jsubl2: that was my next question. i am going to remove the default (generic) kernel off.
[03:40] <brady_> your problem is, more than likely, related to the arts sound subsystem in kde
[03:40] <strike4ce> How do Iget into the sourcelist to change it?
[03:40] <mike_> Doh! Tried to delete the Debian menu in Kubuntu and ended up uninstalling the whole of KDE
[03:41] <jsubl2> Bicchi: i would test the new one first.. always leave a backup
[03:41] <Bicchi> jsubl2: do you know if removing it cleans up my grub list of kernels installed
[03:41] <Bicchi> jsubl2: its working except for the ati drivers
[03:41] <jsubl2> Bicchi: i never remove the old ones..
[03:41] <trs4ece> brady_: so should I reset the arts sound system or something?
[03:41] <jsubl2> Bicchi: ati drivers might be a show stopper
[03:41] <strike4ce> jsubl2:  how do iget into the sourcelists?
[03:41] <Bicchi> jsubl2: yeah specially on dual monitors
[03:42] <brady_> trs4ece: hold on a sec...lemme take a look at something
[03:42] <jsubl2> strike4ce: i use vi to.. if you do not know vi try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:42] <brady_> trs4ece: installing gaim right now...give me a couple secs
[03:44] <jsubl2> Bicchi: you know it is really tough getting streaming video going with the 64bit version of kubuntu right?? codecs are 32bit
[03:44] <strike4ce> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[03:44] <strike4ce> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[03:44] <jsubl2> Bicchi: so i run 32 bit on mine
[03:44] <strike4ce> jsubl2: Is that right?
[03:45] <trs4ece> brady_: hey I think I've figured it out, Automatic doesn't seem to do a very good job in Gaim so I set it to Arts and it seems to be working now
[03:45] <trs4ece> brady_: Although, I'm not sure why Automatic wouldn't work..
[03:45] <jsubl2> strike4ce: looks good to me
[03:45] <jsubl2> !sources
[03:45] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:45] <strike4ce> jsubl2: do i need breezy universe?
[03:45] <jsubl2> strike4ce: yes
[03:46] <strike4ce> ok
[03:46] <jsubl2> and multiverse probably least i use multiverse
[03:46] <Bicchi> jsubl2: yeah i know, i get a lot of limitations using  bits but in a way its the future so i run it to contribute to suporting it
[03:46] <trs4ece> brady_: the sounds are also 3 seconds delayed for some reason
[03:46] <brady_> trs4ece: glad to hear you had success!
[03:46] <Bicchi> jsubl2: using  64 bits that is
[03:46] <brady_> trs4ece: yeah...I revert back to my comments about how I don't like arts ;-)
[03:46] <os2mac> ok so how do I maintian my essid and key for my wlan?
[03:46] <jsubl2> Bicchi: yeah i play with it now and then.. but day in and day i use the 32bit
[03:46] <kaand> sound :(
[03:47] <brady_> does gaim have an option to output directly to alsa?
[03:47] <trs4ece> brady_: Do I have any other options for sound?
[03:47] <os2mac> s/maintian/maintain
[03:47] <jsubl2> Bicchi: triple boot.  i have windows requirement for secure client to work
[03:47] <Bicchi> jsubl2: so you have an amd64 but using the 32 kernel
[03:47] <jsubl2> yes
[03:47] <jsubl2> it still damn fast and except for a few things i can tell that big a difference
[03:47] <Bicchi> jsubl2: the only thing i regret is not having macromedia flash working
[03:47] <jsubl2> ripping cd's for one is faster
[03:48] <Bicchi> you mean on the 64 bit
[03:48] <kaand> so is this the place to go for sound help?
[03:48] <jsubl2> Bicchi: yeah and last i checked gplflash2 isn't ready
[03:48] <Bicchi> jsubl2: i know :(
[03:48] <brady_> kaand: I'll give it a shot...no promises ;-)
[03:48] <jsubl2> Bicchi: yeah ripping on 64 bit seems quite a bit faster.. have not noticed anything else
[03:49] <Bicchi> jsubl2: but by the time its ready i bet macromedia shows up with something. @#$@
[03:49] <kaand> thanks
[03:49] <kaand> so i've tried several different things
[03:49] <kaand> including http://linux.iuplog.com/default.asp?item=94639
[03:49] <Bicchi> jsubl2: video en/de coding is also faster
[03:49] <kaand> and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&highlight=multiple
[03:49] <kaand> but ever since going to breezy, i haven't had sound
[03:50] <kaand> none at all
[03:50] <jsubl2> Bicchi: i usually just watch videos offof cnn.  but i really like for that to work
[03:50] <trs4ece> brady_: was your question about alsa directed to me?
[03:50] <Bicchi> jsubl2: brb time to crash X
[03:50] <duder> anyone know how to make firefox the default browser in kubuntu?
[03:50] <kaand> but it works fine in knoppix, though
[03:50] <duder> no sound for me either kaand
[03:50] <duder> :(
[03:51] <kaand> yeah, it is teh suck
[03:51] <jsubl2> kaand: lspci | grep -i audio in a terminal window
[03:52] <kaand> been there
[03:52] <brady_> trs4ece: yeah...can gaim output to alsa?
[03:52] <kaand> it detects the same sound card knoppix did
[03:52] <strike4ce> Do I need to change this?
[03:52] <strike4ce> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / breezy mai$
[03:52] <jsubl2> kaand: what is it
[03:52] <strike4ce> jsubl2: does that need changed?
[03:52] <strike4ce> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / breezy mai$
[03:52] <kaand> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[03:52] <trs4ece> brady_: I've got console beep, automatic, esd, arts and command
[03:52] <jsubl2> strike4ce: put a # in front of it
[03:53] <Foodcoman> Anyone have an automount USB Key problem with Breezy?
[03:53] <jsubl2> kaand: have you tried alsamixer that card should work out of the box.. speakers turned on etc..
[03:53] <strike4ce> ok why doesnt it say 5.10?
[03:53] <kaand> i've tried messing around with it
[03:53] <jsubl2> strike4ce: wrong cd
[03:53] <strike4ce> how do i leave do ineed to save it?
[03:53] <kaand>  it just worked when I was in knoppix 5 minutes ago
[03:54] <kaand> what do you recommend I do in alsamixer?
[03:54] <strike4ce> so it should be 5.10 what about hoary?
[03:54] <jsubl2> kaand: with alsamixer you have to make sure you don't have any MM at the bottom  if you do hit m and up arrow to raise the volume
[03:55] <jsubl2> kaand: start the app and you will see what i mean.. run in terminal window konsole
[03:56] <kaand> yeah, i've messed around with this before
[03:56] <jsubl2> kaand: and if alsamixer comes up without complaining that is a very good sign
[03:56] <kaand> line jack, cd, mic phone and aux were off and muted
[03:56] <jsubl2> fine
[03:56] <kaand> everything else looks dandy
[03:56] <jsubl2> what kinda file you playing ogg i hope
[03:56] <jsubl2> mp3 support must be added after installation
[03:57] <kaand> well I usually try the 'sound test' thing in the system settings
[03:57] <jsubl2> nothing tho
[03:57] <kaand> but amarok and xine don't have sound either
[03:57] <kaand> nope
[03:57] <jsubl2> ogg files
[03:58] <kaand> i don't even think I have any ogg files laying around
[03:58] <jsubl2> mp3 support must be added after installation
[03:58] <jsubl2> manually
[03:58] <kaand> i believe i did that
[03:58] <strike4ce> Is this what I need to paste in the sourcelist exactly how it reads? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[03:58] <strike4ce> jsubl2: ?
[03:58] <trs4ece> brady_: any thoughts?  I'm going to have to leave in about 5 min
[03:58] <kaand> used easyubuntu, just the multimedia stuff
[03:59] <trs4ece> what's easyubuntu?
[03:59] <jsubl2> strike4ce: yeah that looks like what i use... i copied mine from ubotu link
[03:59] <kaand> it plays, mpg and wmv and avi fine now (except for the sound :( )
[03:59] <strike4ce> even the words example?
[03:59] <jsubl2> strike4ce: if you are in usa you can add us. infront of the archive word
[03:59] <IRCMonkey_> greetings
[03:59] <IRCMonkey_> who knows of a good freeware iso burner for XP?
[03:59] <jsubl2> strike4ce: not "us.archive"
[04:00] <IRCMonkey_> http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[04:00] <IRCMonkey_> I guess this is as good as any
[04:00] <jsubl2> strike4ce: not/note
[04:00] <kaand> search the forums, it's this little program someone put together that does a bunch of the things need to get ubuntu 'desktop ready'
[04:00] <trs4ece> awesome, I'll have to try that out
[04:00] <stodge> Hey folks is this the multiverse repositor address?           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[04:00] <stodge> (repositorY)
[04:01] <strike4ce> jsubl2: even the #example goes in or do I need to add somethingelse?
[04:02] <jsubl2> strike4ce: #example don't matter the # comments it out so it is not used
[04:02] <kaand> ok, dling an ogg now
[04:03] <jsubl2> strike4ce: but put in the other ones with a # sign.. you may want to uncomment the deb-src ones depending on what you are doing
[04:04] <jsubl2> kaand: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:04] <kaand> i know about that stuff, dealt with it in hoary and warty
[04:04] <jsubl2> good
[04:04] <kaand> this is the first time i've had NO sound though
[04:05] <kaand> not even the startup sound or anything
[04:05] <jsubl2> kaand: i generally set my kde sound to use alsa
[04:05] <Kite-> what are the steps to upgrade to 5.10 if im using 5.04 now?
[04:05] <jsubl2> !breezyupgrade
[04:05] <ubotu> breezyupgrade is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:05] <apokryphos> Kite-: /topic
[04:06] <kaand> i did that too
[04:06] <kaand> i followed this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&highlight=multiple
[04:07] <jsubl2> kaand: u using gnome
[04:07] <kaand> nope
[04:07] <kaand> midway through hoary, i switched
[04:08] <kaand> fresh kubuntu install now
[04:08] <jsubl2> the esd stuff is all for gnome
[04:08] <kaand> hrm
[04:09] <kaand> well i guess it was useful for switching back then and was the only thing I could find for now
[04:09] <IRCMonkey_> Do I want to create a disk image or record an iso file after I have downloaded the 5.10 .iso file via BT?
[04:10] <kaand> could anything in my home folder be messing this up? I non destructively rsynced a backup of my hoary home into here
[04:10] <IRCMonkey_> uh, hold on I think I just figured it out
[04:10] <IRCMonkey_> I record an .iso, and then when I want to use it I make a disc image?
[04:12] <jsubl2> kaand: i would not think so.
[04:13] <IRCMonkey_> Incidentally, I am burning an .iso for a live cd to do a trial run. Can I then install from the live cd?
[04:13] <kaand> dang
[04:14] <kaand> so an ogg didn't work either
[04:14] <kaand> is there anything else I can try?
[04:14] <jsubl2> kaand: dmesg | grep intel8x0
[04:14] <kaand> [4294708.004000]  intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49981 usecs
[04:14] <kaand> [4294708.004000]  intel8x0: clocking to 48000
[04:15] <jsubl2> sudo lsmod|grep intel
[04:15] <jsubl2> should give 4 or 5 lines of snd_ stuff
[04:15] <kaand> snd_intel8x0           30144  3
[04:15] <kaand> snd_ac97_codec         72188  1 snd_intel8x0
[04:15] <kaand> snd_pcm                78344  4 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[04:15] <kaand> snd                    48644  10 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[04:15] <kaand> snd_page_alloc         10120  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
[04:15] <kaand> intel_agp              21276  1
[04:15] <kaand> agpgart                32328  3 drm,intel_agp
[04:16] <jsubl2> simple yes would have been more apropriate
[04:16] <kaand> :D
[04:16] <jsubl2> then it is working and something simple is wrong.. speakers turned off kde misconfigured etc.
[04:17] <jsubl2> my kde sound is left at autodetect..
[04:17] <kaand> i tried that and setting it to alsa
[04:17] <apokryphos> kaand: please read the freakin' topic; don't paste in here, use a pastebin service.
[04:18] <kaand> ok
[04:18] <jsubl2> kaand: i am out of ideas sorry.. i think it should be really close to workin
[04:18] <strike4ce> Ok how the hell do I change the source list and save it?
[04:19] <kaand> can you think of another place i can look for help?
[04:19] <apokryphos> strike4ce: apt sources, you mean?
[04:19] <IRCMonkey_> hmm, let
[04:19] <strike4ce> yea I guess
[04:19] <IRCMonkey_> 's see if someone has a reply for this question
[04:20] <strike4ce> where I need to change hoary as breezy
[04:20] <apokryphos> !tell strike4ce about breezyupgrade
[04:20] <IRCMonkey_> How do I boot from the .iso live cd in XP home?
[04:20] <jsubl2> kaand: did you try any of the stuff on the wiki
[04:20] <apokryphos> !tell IRCMonkey_ about install
[04:20] <kaand> i mostly searched the forums
[04:20] <kaand> like what?
[04:20] <lwells> hi all
[04:20] <IRCMonkey_> thank you
[04:20] <jsubl2> kaand: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=sound&titlesearch=Titles
[04:20] <lwells> i tried to install Breezy and i think it did not finish
[04:21] <apokryphos> :/
[04:21] <kaand> ah, ok
[04:21] <jsubl2> lwells: well it installs the  base stuff.  reboots.  then finishes installing and lastly brings up a log in screen..
[04:21] <kaand> thanks, i'll look at these and give them a try
[04:21] <jsubl2> kaand: good luck
[04:22] <lwells> so i should just reboot?
[04:22] <strike4ce> apokryphos: that applies to the kynaptic manager as well?  cuz it i different?
[04:22] <jsubl2> what is on the screen
[04:22] <lwells> i installed it from terminal
[04:23] <apokryphos> strike4ce: just use the apt method; edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:23] <jsubl2> no idea
[04:23] <lwells> and it says "failed to fetch...linux-kernal-header
[04:24] <apokryphos> lwells: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:24] <kaand> it looks like 'lspnp' isn't working, it gives a '/proc/bus/pnp not available' message, could that affect things?
[04:25] <kaand> i think i remember the plug and play startup line not getting an ok like all the other lines during startup
[04:25] <lwells> Well i am trying that again
[04:28] <orugo> hey
[04:28] <orugo> i have rpoblems with soun
[04:29] <orugo> what can i do?
[04:30] <Octane> where do I run guidance from
[04:30] <Octane> i just installed it but cant find it
[04:30] <strike4ce> apokryphos: Would it be easier just to uninstall kubuntu and burn the new 5.10 cd and install fresh?
[04:30] <apokryphos> strike4ce: nope
[04:31] <strike4ce> apokryphos: well I've been doing this all day and I still havent figured it out
[04:31] <orugo> oh
[04:31] <orugo> 5.10
[04:31] <orugo> i want to ask about that
[04:31] <orugo> ahahahah
[04:31] <orugo> i want to UPDATE
[04:31] <apokryphos> strike4ce: it shouldn't take more than 2 minutes to set in place the things to do
[04:31] <orugo> i mean no cd shit installing
[04:32] <strike4ce> apokryphos: hwo do i get torrent
[04:32] <navyn> hey can anybody tell me what sane-backends are?
[04:32] <strike4ce> how?
[04:32] <lwells> I love updating right from the terminal
[04:32] <orugo> can i install using ATP?
[04:32] <apokryphos> strike4ce: if you've already got hoary, then it's pretty self-defeating doing a full reinstall
[04:32] <orugo> install 5.10
[04:32] <Octane> navyn: sane is scanner libs
[04:32] <apokryphos> !tell orugo about breezyupgrade
[04:32] <navyn> yeah, but what are backends?
[04:32] <orugo> but i have 5.04
[04:32] <orugo> i dont have the breezyupgrade
[04:32] <strike4ce> ok my top line in source list that wont be seen right?
[04:32] <kaand> i tried the dist-upgrade but it messed things up
[04:33] <kaand> i couldn't run vim from the cli
[04:33] <_brady> backends are the scanner drivers
[04:33] <navyn> kubuntu detects my scanner but it won't work with SANE
[04:33] <apokryphos> orugo: check the /msg you got from ubotu
[04:33] <strike4ce> Also it keeps giving me this cdrom crap like it cant find it?
[04:33] <orugo> yes
[04:33] <orugo> ok
[04:33] <kaand> so it kinda forced me to to a fresh install :(
[04:33] <Octane> navyn: check the sane website to see if your scanner is supported
[04:33] <orugo> tks!
[04:33] <apokryphos> strike4ce: what?
[04:34] <apokryphos> strike4ce: it's not hard. Edit your sources.list file, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:34] <lwells> apok, you might need to run them twice if there is a problem
[04:34] <orugo> apokryphos: first i have to swith to the breezy version and then to the official 5.10?
[04:34] <strike4ce> apokryphos:   here read:  W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) breezy/main Packages
[04:34] <apokryphos> lwells: there shouldn't be any
[04:35] <apokryphos> orugo: breezy *is* 5.10
[04:35] <apokryphos> strike4ce: you evidently didn't alter the sources.list file accordingly
[04:35] <lwells> i had some, it timed up on the upgrade, but it is working now
[04:35] <navyn> they said it is in sane-backends
[04:35] <orugo> yes there's a NEW version!!!!!!!!
[04:35] <apokryphos> strike4ce: use the one provided on the wiki link I sent you
[04:35] <orugo> 5.10 official
[04:35] <apokryphos> indeed :)
[04:35] <orugo> check www.kubuntu.org
[04:35] <duder> how do I get the regular games that usually comes with an OS?
[04:36] <orugo> (am i the first that saw that?)
[04:36] <Ravensky> hey, which repo can I get the MS core fonts in?
[04:36] <apokryphos> orugo: obviously not :). Check the /topic
[04:36] <orugo> ahahahahah
[04:36] <strike4ce> apokryphos: I dont have synaptic I have kynaptic
[04:36] <orugo> :P
[04:36] <orugo> well
[04:36] <navyn> i did a google search on the scanner model, and I have a page called scanner.h that has my scanner drivers listed in it, but i don't know what to do with that information
[04:36] <orugo> tks a lot
[04:36] <orugo> hey
[04:36] <kaand> is there a reason kubuntu-desktop is being kept back on apt-get upgrade? It's been like that since RC1
[04:36] <orugo> when i upgrade
[04:36] <orugo> i will lost my configS?
[04:36] <orugo> plz no
[04:36] <orugo> ahah
[04:36] <apokryphos> !enter
[04:36] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:36] <apokryphos> strike4ce: I'm not telling you to use synaptic
[04:36] <orugo> sorry
[04:37] <apokryphos> strike4ce: it tells you how to upgrade by just using apt and editing the file
[04:38] <apokryphos> kaand: you should be doing an apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:38] <navyn> whenever I do lsusb it shows there too
[04:38] <kaand> from the RC1?
[04:38] <kaand> i didn't know I had to do that from the release candidate
[04:38] <duder> anyone know how to make firefox the default browser?
[04:39] <apokryphos> kaand: sure; why not?
[04:39] <orugo> aporyphos: hey i have to upgrade ALL the packages from synaptic? they're a lot
[04:39] <apokryphos> duder: systemsettings -> user account -> default applications
[04:39] <Ravensky> err...umm...when I installed phpbb and wordpress through Adept, where'd it put them?
[04:39] <duder> thank u
[04:39] <apokryphos> orugo: if you want breezy, yes.
[04:39] <kaand> i was already at breezy, i though the regular upgrades would keep me
[04:40] <navyn> somebody told me a cat command, and it shows in that too
[04:40] <apokryphos> kaand: nope; see man apt-get  for the difference
[04:41] <`Nomad> ravensky:  At teh very worst, to find the folders do an "sudo updatedb"  and then an "slocate ordpress"  for example :)
[04:41] <kaand> it would be awesome if this fixes my sound but it doesn't seem to be upgrading anything sound related :(
[04:41] <Ravensky> I dont get why ubuntu uses sudo instead of just using the root user. Easier that way?
[04:42] <orugo> apokryphos, tks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:42] <apokryphos> Ravensky: superior model
[04:42] <orugo> you really helped me
[04:42] <orugo> tks!
[04:42] <duder> anyone know how to get games like minesweeper?
[04:42] <apokryphos> np =)
[04:43] <orugo> hey
[04:43] <strike4ce> apokryphos: i putting that exact command for apt and its not working
[04:43] <orugo> is breezy better than 5.04?
[04:43] <apokryphos> strike4ce: are you sure you altered your /etc/apt/sources.list accordingly?
[04:44] <`Nomad> .06 better
[04:44] <`Nomad> :)
[04:44] <apokryphos> orugo: it's newer, faster, has more features etc etc
[04:44] <lwells> need to use sudo
[04:44] <strike4ce> apokryphos: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:44] <orugo> ok
[04:44] <orugo> i'll install it
[04:44] <apokryphos> strike4ce: well, only if you *have* gedit, but sure...
[04:44] <orugo> (455 mb!!)
[04:44] <orugo> haha
[04:44] <strike4ce> what If I dont?
[04:44] <strike4ce> then what?
[04:44] <jsubl2> kate
[04:45] <duder> anyone know how to get games like minesweeper?
[04:45] <apokryphos> strike4ce: use the instructions for kde
[04:45] <apokryphos> strike4ce: you might need to refresh the wiki page; I just added it in
[04:45] <orugo> hey
[04:45] <orugo> i have problems with my sound
[04:45] <orugo> what should i do
[04:45] <duder> me to orugo
[04:46] <kaand> man, sound is a pretty big problem this release
[04:46] <orugo> :(
[04:46] <orugo> what bout breezy?
[04:46] <Octane> god damn kubuntu 5.10 is amazing
[04:46] <orugo> aahahaa
[04:46] <orugo> really?
[04:46] <orugo> oh
[04:47] <orugo> ill download it now
[04:47] <orugo> haha
[04:47] <orugo> !!
[04:47] <ubotu> somebody said ! was what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[04:47] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[04:47] <kaand> i didn't until i did the fresh breezy install
[04:47] <MPC> Octane: in what way?
[04:47] <kaand> worked ok in hoary/warty
[04:47] <strike4ce> apo
[04:47] <Octane> MPC: just is :)
[04:47] <MPC> like the sun comin' up, eh?
[04:48] <strike4ce> apokryphos:  ok sorry lol now how do i see if it took the changes?
[04:48] <apokryphos> strike4ce: if the file is altered, and you saved it, then they're there :)
[04:48] <strike4ce> ok
[04:48] <_douglas> What package do I install so that kde automatically picks up my pendrive? Right now it says error loading media://sda1 or something.???
[04:49] <kaand> that's because it actually loads it with the name of the device now
[04:49] <kaand> at least for me
[04:49] <_douglas> oh, so how do I make it work?
[04:50] <kaand> before is was media://sda1 but now it's media://CARBON
[04:50] <kaand> or whatever
[04:50] <_douglas> I can mount it manually with sda1 though.
[04:50] <strike4ce> apo
[04:50] <kaand> oh
[04:50] <strike4ce> apokryphos: How do i get torrent?
[04:51] <apokryphos> strike4ce: why do you want it? :P
[04:51] <kaand> weird, it worked fine apart from that error message for me
[04:51] <`Nomad> !imap
[04:51] <ubotu> `Nomad: I give up, what is it?
[04:51] <`Nomad> :(
[04:51] <strike4ce> apokryphos: its faster than apt-get right?
[04:51] <_douglas> It used to work fine for me until I reinstalled with the release candidate disc.
[04:51] <_douglas> perhaps I'll do a dist-upgrade and see if it help.
[04:51] <apokryphos> strike4ce: if the server stayed bogged down.. yeah, prolly
[04:51] <apokryphos> strike4ce: /topic
[04:51] <_douglas> although I did one last night though.
[04:52] <strike4ce> apokryphos: I finally got apt get going thanx for your patience and putting up with my dumbass, its was so easy
[04:52] <apokryphos> =)
[04:53] <apokryphos> if anyone wants the kubuntu breezy i386 iso: http://giannaros.org/ubuntu/ISOs/Breezy/
[04:54] <_brady> someone mentioned a problem earlier with delayed sound...I just realized it's happening to me too. Noticed it with the flash player
[04:54] <strike4ce> apokryphos: I have a intel pentium m shouldnt it be i686?
[04:55] <apokryphos> there is no i686 iso
[04:55] <apokryphos> but apt doesn't use the ISOs of course
[04:56] <strike4ce> apt get is slow
[04:56] <apokryphos> indeed
[04:56] <strike4ce> lol
[04:56] <apokryphos> high-traffic
[04:56] <strike4ce> how many hours you think it will take?
[04:57] <apokryphos> no idea; the servers are really bogged down because of the publicity
[04:57] <strike4ce> apo
[04:57] <apokryphos> with the release n' all
[04:57] <strike4ce> apokryphos: you think it would be alright for me to leave it?
[04:57] <strike4ce> alnight
[04:57] <apokryphos> sure
[04:57] <_brady> are you upgrading via apt?
[04:57] <apokryphos> but if you have a fast server you could just wait for some time and then it would do it all in one go
[04:58] <MEtaLpREs> man the servers really are slow, taking a few mins just to get small libs updates
[04:58] <apokryphos> yup
[04:58] <strike4ce> apokryphos: im on broadband
[04:59] <MEtaLpREs> they should have sprung for more bandwidth before the release, they must have known they were going to get hit hard like this
[04:59] <strike4ce> _brady: im using apt
[04:59] <strike4ce> Damn how popular is this?
[04:59] <apokryphos> very :)
[05:00] <apokryphos> especially after the /.
[05:00] <strike4ce> Why isnt it on TV?
[05:00] <MEtaLpREs> lucky for them bittorrent is around to spread the iso's or they would be in real trouble right now
[05:00] <apokryphos> yup
[05:00] <omni_lonnie> so who has successfully updated?
[05:01] <omni_lonnie> everyone here?
[05:01] <MEtaLpREs> i have
[05:01] <omni_lonnie> I'm still in mid apt-get... :(
[05:01] <strike4ce> not yet
[05:01] <apokryphos> a few months ago, yes :)
[05:01] <MEtaLpREs> but i only went from the RC to final
[05:01] <strike4ce> what number?  LOL
[05:02] <omni_lonnie> heh!
[05:02] <strike4ce> im still on get 9
[05:02] <strike4ce> lol
[05:02] <apokryphos> ouch!
[05:02] <strike4ce> Says 4 hrs though
[05:03] <strike4ce> must be bogged down bad in my area
[05:03] <apokryphos> in general it is, yup
[05:03] <apokryphos> !mirrors
[05:03] <ubotu> from memory, mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:03] <apokryphos> gotta wake up in 4 hours :/
[05:03] <strike4ce> lol
[05:04] <omni_lonnie> I've apt-getting for about 6-7 hours and I still have 2-3 to go...  but it'll be worthi it!
[05:04] <strike4ce> better be
[05:04] <strike4ce> open office is big!
[05:05] <omni_lonnie> well I'm a PHP dev and it's worth it jsut to have a "native" PHP 5 :)
[05:06] <_brady> current bt stats: 53 kBps down 3 kBps
[05:07] <_brady> 3 kBps up*
[05:08] <crimsun> duder: back. Have you resolved your sound issue?
[05:14] <zojak> what is better for a linux noob, kde or gnome?
[05:14] <zojak> coming from windows
[05:14] <jbeasley> kde
[05:15] <crimsun> zojak: either. Both Ubuntu and Kubuntu are reasonable.
[05:16] <claydoh> If I enable root password, how do I undo it?
[05:17] <jbeasley> undo?
[05:17] <claydoh> yes, get rid of it
[05:18] <jbeasley> you can't really get rid of it.  The default is a random password.
[05:18] <jbeasley> do you want to change it?
[05:18] <claydoh> no
[05:19] <claydoh> I can do that, just thought there might be a way to go back to rootless sudo
[05:19] <claydoh> I can always set the password to something I will easily forget :)
[05:28] <_john> i am trying to setup a SMB share as a mount point, and i was wondering what to type in the dialouge, as it isnt letting me browse
[05:29] <Ravensky> where's the cgi-bin for Apache2?
[05:34] <_john> figured it out
[05:34] <_john> installed smbfs and used other stuff
[05:35] <NeoFax12> Having a problem with cups.  It will not print.
[05:35] <NeoFax12> I get an error about opening /dev/lp0
[05:36] <NeoFax12> The ownership is root:lp, but I think it should be lpadmin for group
[05:36] <NeoFax12> BTW I am using Kubuntu Breezy
[05:43] <woddf2> Haldo
[05:43] <woddf2> How do I configure a Sound Blaster 16?
[05:44] <NeoFax12> woddf2: What version of kubuntu?
[05:44] <woddf2> I'm on 5.10.
[05:44] <NeoFax12> apt-get install sndconfig
[05:45] <NeoFax12> Also, you may want to check lsmod and lshw
[05:46] <woddf2> apt-get said it couldn't find sndconfig.
[05:48] <NeoFax12> woddf2: Guess they removed sndconfig
[05:48] <`Nomad> !amarok
[05:48] <ubotu> I heard amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[05:49] <NeoFax12> Try using lshw to find out if linux is recognizing the card and then use lsmod to see if the drivers are loaded
[05:51] <lwells> i updated to Breezy, how do I know if it worked
[05:54] <lwells> How can I tell if i am running on Breezy?
[05:56] <BlankB> cat /etc/issue is always an easy way.
[05:56] <lwells> yep thanks
[05:57] <lwells> Breezy Badger
[05:58] <lwells> I do not see the update tool anymore
[05:59] <lwells> what was the name of that tool under KDE, i cannot remember
[06:00] <korkster> hello all :)
[06:00] <lwells> kpakage?
[06:00] <NeoFax12> lwells: Adept is the default update tool for kubuntu now
[06:01] <lwells> Where is that ?
[06:01] <NeoFax12> BTW, why is it the group rights for lp[0-9]  is lp instead of lpadmin which cups needs?
[06:01] <NeoFax12> lwells: Alt+F2 then type in adept
[06:02] <lwells> Said it could not find the command
[06:03] <NeoFax12> OK, then in a konsole do apt-get update && apt-get install adept
[06:04] <korkster> NeoFax12 Does adept not get installed automatically when you upgrade?
[06:05] <NeoFax12> I am not sure about that, as I installed Kubuntu rc1 and upgraded from that and it came default
[06:05] <cddesjar> korkster: no
[06:05] <NeoFax12> If you want adept just do the same thing as I said to lwells
[06:05] <lwells> Maybe I did not do the install correctly?
[06:05] <cddesjar> synaptic is much better than adept
[06:05] <korkster> yah installed Hoary clean, did an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and Im currently doing a dist-upgrade
[06:06] <korkster> to Breezy that is
[06:06] <korkster> After doing the dist upgrade, do I need to do anything else?
[06:06] <korkster> like do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop again?
[06:07] <korkster> I'd think I wouldnt
[06:08] <NeoFax12> korkster: No, as it matches the debs you currently have on your system with replacements in the new apt repos
[06:08] <cddesjar> korkster: nope
[06:08] <MarcC> can anyone show me to a working sources.list for breezy kub/ub?
[06:08] <cddesjar> !sources
[06:08] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[06:09] <MarcC> sank you
[06:09] <cddesjar> np
[06:10] <lwells> synaptic was not installed either
[06:11] <cddesjar> synaptic wouldn't be
[06:11] <cddesjar> kynpatic would
[06:11] <cddesjar> apt-get remove kynaptic --purge
[06:11] <cddesjar> apt-get install synaptic
[06:11] <cddesjar> :)
[06:11] <cddesjar> i think kynaptic sucks
[06:11] <nutate> So i just moved here over a week from NY to Santa Monica, for a change of scene am job hunting so am free during the day and night. I do have some friends out here but they are all coupled up and i would like to have someone around to stop making me the third wheel. but i also would like to have a lil fun and see what happens. Usually the guys i date have that rocker or rockabilly look, a little edgy, don't like khaki's or suits! Am looking for
[06:12] <nutate>
[06:12] <nutate>  I was raised between Dublin and NY and went to university in London, UK. so my accent is all mixed up. So i am admitting i am lonely not sure how to go about meeting new friends, its weird. so am hoping to meet some intelligent, fun, witty, dry sense of humour people, who would like to go for a drink, to an art gallery, to the gym, the beach or go see some bands, my background is working in music. am a total music nut and usually go see bands 2
[06:12] <nutate>
[06:12] <nutate> So i just moved here over a week from NY to Santa Monica, for a change of scene am job hunting so am free during the day and night. I do have some friends out here but they are all coupled up and i would like to have someone around to stop making me the third wheel. but i also would like to have a lil fun and see what happens. Usually the guys i date have that rocker or rockabilly look, a little edgy, don't like khaki's or suits! Am looking for
[06:12] <nutate>
[06:12] <nutate>  I was raised between Dublin and NY and went to university in London, UK. so my accent is all mixed up. So i am admitting i am lonely not sure how to go about meeting new friends, its weird. so am hoping to meet some intelligent, fun, witty, dry sense of humour people, who would like to go for a drink, to an art gallery, to the gym, the beach or go see some bands, my background is working in music. am a total music nut and usually go see bands 2
[06:12] <nutate>
[06:12] <nutate> son of a sorry
[06:12] <nutate> so much for the live cd middle click on a thinkpad
[06:13] <tshah> anyway, I perfer installing via konsole
[06:13] <cddesjar> i do too tshah
[06:13] <cddesjar> apt-cache search
[06:13] <cddesjar> works just as good as adept search or synaptic search
[06:14] <tshah> sometimes the installer needs your attention and kynapitic can ignore it (perfect example is installing bugzilla), another reason to use konsole
[06:15] <cddesjar> yeah that's a ubuntu modification though...if you install synaptic in debian you still get to interact with the console
[06:16] <korkster> thanks for your help...so seemingly, when the dist-upgrade finishes everything sshould just work as per usual then?
[06:17] <korkster> I probably should reboot I suppose :)
[06:17] <tshah> From personal experiance, you could theoridically just end your session
[06:17] <cddesjar> no you should need to reboot
[06:17] <cddesjar> maybe refresh X
[06:18] <cddesjar> alt + backspace
[06:18] <cddesjar> but if you want to boot into a new kernel, you'll need to reboot
[06:19] <korkster> refresh X??
[06:19] <duder> how do I download something once I have found it using apt-cachce search?
[06:19] <Kevman> Can anyone tell me how to mount a samba share automatically?
[06:20] <Kevman> There are instructions on the wiki, but the share has no logon or password.
[06:20] <duder> can someone please tell me how do I download something once I have found it using apt-cachce search?
[06:21] <Kevman> duder, sudo apt-get install packagename
[06:22] <duder> thanks kevman
[06:23] <duder> kevman I have heard many people talk about synaptic searching.. do u know how to do that?
[06:24] <cddesjar> there's a search field
[06:25] <Kevman> ? "sudo synaptic" will start synaptic. Then have fun.
[06:25] <cddesjar> sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[06:25] <duder> ahha! thanks man ;)
[06:25] <duder> now if I can get my sound working I will be good to go!
[06:25] <cddesjar> to remove:  sudo apt-get remove <packagename> --purge
[06:26] <aliveuser> i'm having problems making my cd eject?
[06:26] <cddesjar> sudo apt-get install alsa
[06:26] <cddesjar> sudo eject
[06:26] <aliveuser> but
[06:26] <aliveuser> i want to fix the desktop opcion
[06:26] <aliveuser> option
[06:26] <satafterh> is there a mirir for the dvd iso
[06:26] <cddesjar> what's your error
[06:26] <satafterh> mirror
[06:26] <cddesjar> yup
[06:26] <duder> so what does sudo stand for?
[06:26] <cddesjar> go to www.kubuntu.org
[06:26] <cddesjar> and go under the d/l tab
[06:27] <tshah> "sudo" is like "do this like an admin"
[06:28] <duder> thanks tshah
[06:28] <satafterh> there is only one link for the dvd iso and torrent is corrupt
[06:28] <aliveuser> when i exec "sudo eject", cdrom dev is busy
[06:29] <aliveuser> but i'm not using it
[06:29] <aliveuser> give me a minute
[06:30] <tshah> satafterh, which kind of computer are you using?
[06:30] <nutate> duder: super user do
[06:30] <tshah> AMD64, regular Intel, Mac?
[06:30] <korkster> I just noticed that while it was unpacking Im getting alot of perl exceptions/probs regarding locale
[06:30] <korkster> is this normal?
[06:30] <satafterh> amd 2600 clone
[06:31] <korkster> says that its "falling back to standard locale "C"
[06:33] <frank23> korkster: I got those too
[06:33] <SillyCone> does anybody know what warnings like "Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0" mean?
[06:33] <frank23> korkster: I don't think they mean anything
[06:33] <korkster> ahh ok thanks frank23
[06:34] <tshah> satafterh, I can't seem to find any other mirrors. for the dvd, sorry
[06:35] <satafterh> tshah - thanks for trying
[06:38] <root> hi there
[06:46] <blackflag> Hello all :-)
[06:46] <judax> Hey
[06:47] <blackflag> Im looking around directory services  under Linux
[06:47] <blackflag> I want a centralised Auth in a lan
[06:47] <blackflag> something like ADS under M$
[06:48] <blackflag> is there something available for kubuntu and debian?
[06:48] <crimsun> look for an openldap*
[06:48] <blackflag> Yes I had a look
[06:48] <blackflag> but but I dont know
[06:49] <eracerbit> anyone elses kicker totally non functional
[06:49] <blackflag> how I tell my ubuntu client
[06:49] <blackflag> to auth against via ldap on a debian server
[06:49] <korkster> Rebooted...everything seems just fine
[06:49] <blackflag> maybe there is a complete solution I didnt found
[06:50] <ali_> What plug-in do I need to play MP3's?
[06:50] <korkster> except on one of my monitors, it says "Testing Unstable"
[06:50] <korkster> not sure what thats all about
[06:51] <blackflag> you know what I mean?
[06:51] <blackflag> the access to thge client should be managed by the ldap server
[06:52] <BlankB> So after doing a instal with the iso how many megs of updates are there (if any) to apt-get update?
[06:52] <blackflag> but cant find a useful discription todo so
[06:54] <judax> ali_: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:57] <judax> BlankB: it is not large (relative I know), I don't know the exact MB, but I use dsl so...
[06:58] <BlankB> well here I go....backup then upgrade time. 8)
[06:59] <blackflag> you know: asingle sign on machine for my linux clients
[07:00] <duder> when I type sudo synaptic in my terminal it says command not found... is this not the right command?
[07:02] <ubuntu> Hello All, Is there a sun-j2re1.5 package for Breezy ? I can't find it either in the Hoary Backports...
[07:03] <ubuntu> Anyone here?
[07:05] <LaserLine> Hello All, Is there a sun-j2re1.5 package for Breezy ? I can't find it either in the Hoary Backports...
[07:06] <kkathman> hi There ubuntu :)
[07:06] <kkathman> LaserLine: I think there is, because it was updated during my upgrade
[07:06] <kkathman> and it came from one of the basic repos
[07:07] <kkathman> Now I cant validate that per se
[07:07] <LaserLine> kkathman I can't find it...
[07:07] <kkathman> unless I have a site that uses Java
[07:09] <kkathman> LaserLine: did you try downloading it from Sun?
[07:11] <LaserLine> nope, thought there will be an easy way :-)
[07:12] <kkathman> Yah, I remember installing that SDK, and it was very much of an ordeal
[07:13] <satafterh> http://counter.li.org/
[07:27] <crimsun> kkathman: icon text vs. property text?
[07:28] <kkathman> crimsun: Yes, the text underneath the icon usually is the same as the Property text..and the remote icons are not
[07:28] <crimsun> maybe a cache sync issue?
[07:29] <crimsun> (I use GNOME)
[07:29] <kkathman> ahh ok
[07:29] <kkathman> nm
[07:30] <cyne> anyone know good tools for slicing images in web development ?
[07:32] <kkathman> Hmm unusual now that I cannot delete a remote share icon either...very odd
[07:34] <cyne> anyone know good tools for slicing images in web development ?
[07:35] <kkathman> cyne: about the only decent graphic tool I know in the linux world is GIMP
[07:35] <cyne> kkathman: sure but i don't see any slicing tools like in photoshop
[07:36] <kkathman> cyne: Agreed...its why I still keep my win box around...to use photoshop
[07:37] <cyne> bugger that, i use vmware :)
[07:37] <cyne> spose i should just install it , heh :)
[07:37] <cyne> ( photoshop )
[07:37] <kkathman> I tried using that and use wine and that crossover thing...none worked with any kind of reliability or level of detail
[07:38] <cyne> vmware works fine
[07:38] <kkathman> so I just use my win box for that
[07:38] <cyne> very reliable
[07:38] <kkathman> you've used it with photoshop?
[07:38] <cyne> well, no, but i've thrown everything else at it
[07:38] <cyne> i will let you know i'm going to install it now
[07:38] <hellion> hello.   im looking for help configuring  either kaffeine or vlan or something for NSV streams
[07:39] <kkathman> yah...I did too, and photoshop runs, but the detail to work on a drawing just isnt there under an emulator
[07:39] <cyne> kkathman: then use it full screen
[07:39] <kkathman> cyne I did.. I guess I just prefer the native :)
[07:39] <kkathman> I mean if you spend the $700 for the package, why not run it as it was meant :)
[07:40] <cyne> indeed
[07:40] <hellion> can anyone help configuring to receiving NSV streams?
[07:41] <kkathman> I'd just like to know why the heck I cant delete my share icons from my desktop in breezy!
[07:45] <satafterh> hope 10million in the ubuntu fund is enough to keep it around for along timee
[07:52] <Kevman> How can I get transperancies to work in Kubuntu?
[07:57] <lwells> what is the website to past problems into the discussion??
[07:59] <BlankB> pasetbin.com is one.
[07:59] <BlankB> oops..pastebin.com
[08:01] <lwells> thanks
[08:02] <lwells> I am having this problem trying to update to Breezy http://pastebin.com/393179
[08:03] <lwells> I am wondering if i need to fix the sources.list file
[08:05] <lwells> This is what i have in the sources.list file now http://pastebin.com/393181
[08:06] <BlankB> line 1 you still have hoary cd. but that shouldnt be too big of a problem.
[08:07] <lwells> Yea , i was wondering that too, but no big deal right?
[08:07] <lwells> Am I missing a line?
[08:09] <BlankB> Here is a minimalist one. I just took what was in mine after a fresh install of breezy and removed all the lines that were commented out. http://pastebin.com/393184
[08:09] <BlankB> Since its so small it may help you debug.
[08:10] <lwells> Thanks let me try that
[08:14] <lwells> Now I am getting a GPG error
[08:15] <BlankB> put that on the pastebin.
[08:15] <lwells> ok
[08:16] <lwells> http://pastebin.com/393187
[08:17] <BlankB> thats odd...was that while running apt-get update
[08:18] <lwells> no, the apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:18] <BlankB> but apt-get update worked just fine?
[08:19] <lwells> sorry , yes the update process is where it happened
[08:21] <lwells> funny,now i screwed up my laptop
[08:21] <aftertaf> gpg error doesnt matter that much.
[08:21] <BlankB> try apt-key list and compare it to: http://pastebin.com/393194
[08:21] <lwells> After the update, now it just goes to the command promp
[08:22] <BlankB> I did a full backup of old system and started fresh with breezy.
[08:22] <aftertaf> lwells:  thats normal. to return to cmd prompt.
[08:22] <lwells> well lucky i had no data
[08:22] <aftertaf> rerun dist-upgrade and itll say 0 to install/upgrade.
[08:23] <lwells> ok
[08:23] <aftertaf> have you rebooted?
[08:23] <aftertaf> new kernel & all....
[08:23] <lwells> i did reboot
[08:24] <lwells> the prompt says it is now breezy
[08:26] <aftertaf> lwells:  but no X?
[08:26] <lwells> right
[08:26] <aftertaf> lwells:  what does startx give as an error?
[08:27] <lwells> sure does
[08:27] <aftertaf> yeah :) but what error?
[08:27] <lwells> said it was unable to connect to x server
[08:28] <aftertaf> what reason?
[08:28] <lwells> xinit: connection refused (errno 111)
[08:29] <lwells> can i just install X again?
[08:29] <aftertaf> cnn refused?   ok. delete the .ICEauthority file in your home
[08:29] <aftertaf> lwells:  wont help, and not needed.
[08:29] <lwells> just delete that file?
[08:29] <aftertaf> is kdm stopped?   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[08:30] <aftertaf> yep delete it !
[08:30] <aftertaf> .ICE.....
[08:31] <lwells> where is that file
[08:31] <aftertaf> did kdm stop?
[08:31] <aftertaf> in your home.
[08:31] <lwells> yes
[08:31] <aftertaf> cool.
[08:31] <aftertaf> cd ~/
[08:31] <aftertaf> itsa hidden file
[08:32] <aftertaf> are you in your home directory?
[08:33] <lwells> yep, no .iceauthority file there
[08:33] <lwells> yea there it is
[08:33] <aftertaf> even with ls -A
[08:33] <lwells> hold on
[08:33] <aftertaf> hidden :)
[08:33] <lwells> ok gone
[08:34] <aftertaf> ok.
[08:34] <lwells> now what
[08:34] <aftertaf> now, try startx again, and give me the exact error
[08:35] <lwells> gives me some permission denied in the /usr/bin/startx
[08:35] <lwells> and a xinit:server error
[08:36] <lwells> no error number this time, just says xinit: Server error
[08:36] <lwells> oh it does say:
[08:37] <lwells> creating new authority file ... .serverauth.4094
[08:38] <aftertaf> lwells:  weird that.....
[08:38] <aftertaf> try sudo startx
[08:38] <lwells> ok
[08:38] <aftertaf> (just for test. never run X as root otherwise)
[08:39] <lwells> no permission deny anymore, but same xinit: Server error
[08:39] <lwells> NO errno
[08:39] <lwells> is the "creating new authority file" normal?
[08:39] <aftertaf> lwells:  wha is your gfx card?
[08:40] <aftertaf> lwells:  yep. deleted old one (.ICE...)
[08:40] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > hi guys,.."
[08:40] <lwells> no clue, but worked before the upgrade
[08:40] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i need a speed help.. i forgot how fstab work.. and i need a very fast thing since i am configuring my new ipod nano on linux
[08:40] <aftertaf> lwells:  type lspci
[08:40] <aftertaf> !mount
[08:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[08:41] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  ^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:41] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > but i can't understand why i can't mount as normal user
[08:41] <lwells> Command not found
[08:41] <lwells> opps typed it wrong
[08:41] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > dev/sda2        /media/ipod	    hfs      noauto,rw,user									0 			0
[08:41] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > with a slash at the beginning of the line obviously..
[08:42] <lwells> nVidia card
[08:42] <aftertaf> lwells:  oki. :)
[08:42] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > please help me i have only this evening to work on this thing...!!
[08:42] <aftertaf> lwells:  1st thing..... we'll edit your xorg.conf file.
[08:42] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > aftertaf: ? plz ?!
[08:42] <aftertaf> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:42] <lwells> ok, where is that
[08:42] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  i dont know, ive never done that.
[08:42] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  try on #ubuntu....
[08:43] <BlankB> tallia...: is there a space after user and before 0
[08:43] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i am only asking you how i can configure my fstab
[08:43] <lwells> says new file
[08:43] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  i'm a newb for most things.......
[08:43] <aftertaf> lwells:  not god.
[08:43] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > and if the line i paste before is right to allow a normal user to mount that partition
[08:43] <aftertaf> *good
[08:43] <lwells> ok
[08:43] <aftertaf> lwells:  quit nano, type cd /etc/X11
[08:44] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > ubotu: and you can you tell me why i can't mount as a normal user this drive?
[08:44] <ubotu> Tallia1[UbuntU] : I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:44] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > dev/sda2        /media/ipod	    hfs      noauto,rw,user									0 			0
[08:44] <aftertaf> case sensitive.....
[08:44] <aftertaf> brb
[08:44] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  : in what you pasted there is no whitespace after user.?
[08:44] <lwells> no directory
[08:44] <lwells> man what a mess
[08:44] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > there's a lot of space after user
[08:45] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: several tabs and spaces
[08:45] <lwells> yes got it sorry
[08:45] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  ahh...I just dont see it here.
[08:46] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  well what error does it return when you try to mount it as a user?
[08:46] <lwells> ok, in the config file, just a mistype
[08:46] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i'm trying to add the option "umask=000" since in the past i resolved my problems with that
[08:46] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > it tells me that i haven't got enough permissions!!
[08:46] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > mount: only root can do that
[08:47] <aftertaf> lwells:  hehe ok.
[08:47] <lwells> sorry, fat fingers
[08:47] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  Copy and paste your /etc/fstab to http://blankb.pastebin.com/
[08:48] <lwells> what do i need to look for
[08:48] <aftertaf> lwells:  scroll down and find Section "Device" that mentions your gfx card.
[08:48] <aftertaf> you'll have "nv" or "nvidia" as module name
[08:48] <aftertaf> Driver name*
[08:48] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > http://rafb.net/paste/results/MfwQzz58.html
[08:49] <lwells> ok there
[08:49] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > umask=000 has been detected as  a wrong option.. :(
[08:49] <aftertaf> lwells:  what you you have as driver?
[08:49] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  where did you put it int the line?
[08:49] <lwells> teh Nvidia
[08:49] <lwells> the
[08:50] <lwells> nv is the driver
[08:50] <aftertaf> lwells:  ok.
[08:50] <lwells> so it is not the graphics card?
[08:50] <aftertaf> nv: open source on accelerated version of driver
[08:50] <aftertaf> non*
[08:50] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > ??
[08:50] <kinfo> what?
[08:50] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > aftertaf: ? what do you mean?
[08:51] <aftertaf> Tallia1[UbuntU] :  where in the line did you put the umask option.?
[08:51] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  is /media/ipod +x and +w  the user or world?
[08:51] <aftertaf> lwells:  return to console......
[08:51] <lwells> ok there
[08:51] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > yes,,
[08:51] <aftertaf> lwells:  what processor do you have?
[08:51] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i can mount the drive if i do the operation as root
[08:51] <lwells> it is a pentium 4
[08:52] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > but when you mount as root, you have only read access .. and the program can't work since its work is syncronize these directories
[08:52] <aftertaf> ok. lwells type: sudo apt-get install  linux-686
[08:52] <lwells> ok
[08:52] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i've put the umask in the beginning of the options
[08:52] <aftertaf> (grabs an optimised kernel...)
[08:52] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > like for the others /dev/sda /dev/sdb lines
[08:53] <aftertaf> lwells:  does it also mention it wil install 686-restricted?
[08:53] <lwells> in the errors?
[08:54] <aftertaf> lwells:  nope, when you rune the apt-get command?
[08:54] <lwells> ok. let me see
[08:54] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  so when you type: mount /dev/sda2 /media/ipod  it returns: "mount: only root can do that" ?
[08:55] <lwells> it says it could not find package linux-686
[08:55] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > y
[08:55] <BlankB> as the user I mean.
[08:55] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: yes
[08:55] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: exactly.. but when i mount as root everything function..!
[08:55] <aftertaf> lwells:  you typed exactly as i did?  all smallcase?
[08:56] <aftertaf> lwells:  weird.....    this pc is upgraded to breezy?  is it conneted to internet?
[08:56] <lwells> it is connected yes
[08:56] <lwells> and it is upgraded to Breezy
[08:57] <aftertaf> type uname -a, wat is the result?
[08:57] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: here it is what happens.. precisely..
[08:58] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > http://rafb.net/paste/results/6wI11d70.html
[08:58] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6wI11d70.html
[08:58] <lwells> linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Thu Sep 8 06:18:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:58] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: as you can see, everything can be mount correctly.. AS ROOT
[08:59] <cb68> je viens de testeer kubuntu live
[08:59] <cb68> Mais tout est en anglais saut l'installation ?
[08:59] <aftertaf> lwells:  ok. retry sudo apt-get install linux-686
[08:59] <cb68> estce normal ?
[08:59] <aftertaf> cb68:  ch? pas, jamais test?
[09:00] <aftertaf> cb68:  anglais pwns tout, :)
[09:00] <cb68> Ho sorry I am on the english area ! sorry
[09:00] <aftertaf> lol cb68 no pbs
[09:00] <lwells> still could not find package linux-686
[09:00] <cb68> I thought I was on kubuntu-fr ! I did not take care
[09:01] <cb68> I said I just tested the kubuntu live and all is in english is it normal ?
[09:01] <aftertaf> ok try this,    apt-cache search linux-*
[09:01] <aftertaf> cb68:  je sais :) gcompris
[09:01] <aftertaf> cb68:  cant you chage in regionalisation, to french?
[09:01] <cb68> Question is kubuntu live 510 multilingual ?
[09:01] <aciDHead> hi
[09:01] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: ??
[09:02] <duder> can someone tell me what this means and what I can do? this is what pops up when turn on my kubuntu system. I get no sound. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/393207
[09:02] <lwells> It found alot
[09:02] <aciDHead> is there already an apt source for kde 3.43 ??
[09:02] <cb68> I try to change the language and the choise was Us english ou UK english
[09:02] <aftertaf> lwells:  did you type apt-get update?
[09:02] <lwells> not recently
[09:02] <aciDHead> yes
[09:02] <lwells> do it again?
[09:02] <aciDHead> no effect
[09:03] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  yes. lwells yes
[09:03] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  I am trying it right now...just a sec.
[09:03] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  but i cant give you it i removed it, now on 3.5 beta
[09:03] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: kkk
[09:03] <aciDHead> aftertaf: is it stable 3.5 ?
[09:03] <lwells> Does not appear to work
[09:04] <aftertaf> lwells:  error?
[09:04] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  beat==not stable, but seems fine to me.
[09:04] <lwells> it says "Could't stat source package list...
[09:04] <aftertaf> beta*
[09:04] <aciDHead> aftertaf: can you find the source for me ? again ?
[09:05] <aftertaf> lwells:  paste me one line of your souorces.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[09:05] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  erf.... i got it from the topic here.. ill have a peek.
[09:05] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  If it makes you feel any better I cant mount anything as a user either. Still looking into why.
[09:06] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ breezy-updates main
[09:06] <aftertaf> aciDHead:  try httping there, see if kde343 exists
[09:06] <lwells> "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted"
[09:06] <aftertaf> ok
[09:08] <lwells> You know, not sure it is connecting to the internet anymore
[09:08] <aftertaf> yeah.
[09:08] <aftertaf> sounds that way. whats the conection type?
[09:09] <lwells> pci wireless card
[09:09] <aftertaf> omg :/
[09:09] <aciDHead> aftertaf: i know that.. but there is nothing.. maybe i wait a day or two
[09:09] <lwells> maybe i should use a direct connection for now?
[09:09] <lwells> what?
[09:09] <aftertaf> if you type iwconfig, you have an ip?
[09:10] <lwells> it says no wireless extentions
[09:10] <aftertaf> come over to #ubuntu..... i can't help you on this part :/
[09:11] <lwells> ok
[09:11] <aftertaf> lwells:  try this for X though....    sud spkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:11] <aftertaf> sudo*
[09:11] <lwells> ok
[09:12] <aftertaf> and see you on #ubuntu ;)
[09:12] <lwells> spkg?
[09:12] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: :( ;( i can upload informations to my ipod but i can't update the library file.. since it is write protected..
[09:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > and if i start the syncro application as root the situation doesn't change.. UHEEE
[09:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > help!
[09:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: in the manual it was said to put the line: /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod vfat noauto,rw,user 00
[09:14] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > that is what i have done before coming here..
[09:15] <lwells> that did not work
[09:17] <RezDawg> Can someone helpp me out, I upgrade from Hoary to Breezy but now kaffine is gone and firefox.  I went to package manager and updated everything but I still get... Service '/home/default/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop' is malformatted.
[09:19] <aciDHead> is 5.10 final ??
[09:19] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  I see what you are saying. I cant get my firewire drive to mount as a user either.
[09:19] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: this is weird!!
[09:21] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: i found this page on hfs filesystem
[09:21] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: http://www-sccm.stanford.edu/Students/hargrove/HFS/README-2.html
[09:22] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: and also here it is said to use UID to set the permissions..
[09:23] <BlankB> Yeah the firewire drive I am using is formatted ext2. And I cant mount as a user. Im sure I am just overlooking something.
[09:25] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > me too
[09:31] <LaserLine> Anyone could help me with Sun's JAVA ?
[09:31] <LaserLine> I installed it using the Wiki - Restricted formats, I can use it with Konqueror but Firefox doesn't  What can I do ?
[09:32] <LaserLine> Anyone ?
[09:32] <BlankB> argh. That was not fun.
[09:33] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: ?
[09:33] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > get the message?
[09:33] <RezDawg> LaserLine: you have to link it to firefox
[09:34] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  nope...Konversation crashed and wouldnt restart till I rebooted.
[09:34] <LaserLine> how ?
[09:34] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: ok
[09:34] <RezDawg> LaserLine: well ive only done it once, so im not the one to ask
[09:34] <RezDawg> LaserLine: i read  a wiki and did it
[09:34] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > BlankB: now?
[09:34] <LaserLine> What Wiki ?
[09:35] <RezDawg> LaserLine: let me look to see if i can find it
[09:35] <seaLne> !Restricted formats
[09:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:36] <BlankB> Tallia1[UbuntU]  didnt get anything.
[09:37] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > mhh, send me a mail at public DOT andrea DOT tagliasacchi AT gmail DOT com if you find out somethign
[09:37] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i have to reboot
[09:41] <RezDawg> LaserLine: did you get that ?
[09:42] <LaserLine> Yes. thanks
[09:43] <BlankB> doeth. Figured it out and now tallia1 is gone.
[09:43] <aftertaf> BlankB:  got his mail?
[09:44] <aftertaf> and BlankB what was the answer?
[09:44] <aftertaf> :)
[09:44] <BlankB> yep. If he doesnt come back soon I will email.
[09:44] <BlankB> I was too sleepy...A user should mount like: mount /dev/sda1   not as mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint
[09:45] <BlankB> in fstab I have: /dev/sda1       /tmp/testmount  auto    user 0 0
[09:45] <BlankB> and as a user only these 2 commands will mount it: mount /dev/sda1 or mount /tmp/testmount
[09:46] <andrea_> BlankB: found something?
[09:47] <BlankB> I was too sleepy...A user should mount like: mount /dev/sda1   not as mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint
[09:47] <BlankB> and as a user only these 2 commands will mount it: mount /dev/sda1 or mount /tmp/testmount
[09:47] <BlankB> in fstab I have: /dev/sda1       /tmp/testmount  auto    user 0 0
[09:47] <BlankB> so yours would just be: mount /media/ipod as the user
[09:48] <andrea_> now i try
[09:48] <LaserLine> RezDawgThere is only Mozila, no firefox... what to do ?
[09:48] <andrea_> and this is possible with the user option?
[09:49] <andrea_> or with which option in the line..
[09:49] <andrea_> BlankB: ?
[09:49] <BlankB> the user option.
[09:49] <andrea_> i'll try
[09:51] <seaLne> shouldn't hotplug be automounting things?
[09:51] <BlankB> usually.
[09:51] <andrea_> VFS: Can't find a HFS filesystem on dev sda2.
[09:52] <andrea_> weird...
[09:52] <andrea_> i'll put auto
[09:52] <andrea_> since when i mount manually it is ok
[09:59] <nikkia> seaLne: no, hotplug doesn't 'automount', it just handles /dev
[10:00] <gibarian> Hello everyone...does by any chance anyone of you have problems with gstreamer as well?
[10:14] <buz> gibarian: my kaffeine refuses to play dvds and stuff even though all the libs are installed
[10:16] <sekundek> hi!.
[10:16] <sekundek> Can anybody help with problem of USB key mounting
[10:16] <sekundek> i get error " The file or folder media:/sda does not exist."
[10:16] <gibarian> buz: well, my kaffeine is acting all weird too. Can't open gstreamer, but crashed while opening files when using xine-engine...I think that whole things is extremely broke!
[10:16] <buz> mhh my xine works
[10:16] <buz> so does vlc so i dont care too much
[10:17] <buz> kaffeine ahs been a pain to use for me anyhwo
[10:19] <buz> has anyone used http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/09/29/45-easy-ubuntu-23
[10:19] <gibarian> unfortunately, xine crashes when opening too...and VLC tends to choke on sound issues...ah, if only I hadn't upgraded to breezy
[10:20] <crimsun> what sound issues with vlc?
[10:22] <gibarian> oh...well, right now it just randomly crashes....but for some files it doesn't seem to fin the right module...I'm right now reinstalling every multimedia component of KDE...let's see if that'll change anything
[10:23] <crimsun> err no, don't do that
[10:23] <crimsun> redirect the output from vlc -vvv
[10:23] <crimsun> to a text file, bzip2 it, and e-mail it to me.
[10:31] <vegiVamp> hello
[10:32] <vegiVamp> Could someone tell me how and where I disable automatic starting of kscd and konqi when I insert an audio cd ? I'm running breezy.
[11:11] <chakie> is katapult supposed to do something in a newly installed breezy? i can't find it in the menus and running "katapult" from the commandline gives me nothing
[11:12] <chakie> just a few lines of "Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror" and similar
[11:12] <chakie> nor does the new "System settings" really work, i clicked "Appearance" and then it broke...
[11:14] <chakie> starting katapult again made it show up with alt-space
[11:15] <sorush20> I can't format my floppy I keep getting density value 0 or device not found... but I can mount the floppy and browse
[11:17] <sorush20> why I try to mount I get this message sam@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/fd0 mount: mount point /media/fd0 does not exist
[11:18] <mart> ah, quick q: anyone have an url to the kde3.5 packages?
[11:20] <Jacko> anyone know how to get the window toolbar in konqueror and the konsole window inside konqueror?
[11:22] <mart> Jacko: Window->Show terminal emulator
[11:22] <Jacko> I dont have the window menu for some weird reason
[11:22] <mart> eep!
[11:23] <Jacko> yeah
[11:23] <Jacko> and it's a clean new install of kubuntu breezy
[11:26] <jmg> hey guys good work
[11:26] <jmg> but my hotkeys are all broken
[11:26] <jmg> i think it is xmodmap
[11:26] <jmg> but i dont know what package to purge and reinstall
[11:32] <gibarian> uh...does anyone know why USB devices don't show up anymore?
[11:34] <gibarian> uh...does anyone know why USB devices don't show up anymore?
[11:34] <gibarian> uh...does anyone know why USB devices don't show up anymore? they do in dmesg, but no icon pops up in kde...
[11:36] <Jacko> anyone know how to get the window toolbar in konqueror?
[11:37] <gibarian> jacko: what do you mean?
[11:37] <mart> Jacko: perhaps it was disabled in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings?
[11:38] <gibarian> so...does anyone know if that hotplu system is borked for KDE?
[11:41] <Jacko> mart: do you have the window toolbar?
[11:41] <mart> Jacko: or maybe the rc file in your .kde/share/apps/konqueror breaks it
[11:41] <mart> Jacko: yeah, I have it
[11:41] <mart> but I'm upgrading from 3.4.2 to 3.4.3/3.5 now
[11:42] <Jacko> I don't suppose you could look at your ...
[11:42] <Jacko> /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/konq-kubuntu.rc file and see if it has any reference to the window menu in there?
[11:43] <mart> Jacko: no, but the one in my home dir does...
[11:43] <Jacko> ah
[11:43] <mart> so presumably that overrides it
[11:45] <mart> Jacko: do you have a "Go" menu?
[11:45] <Jacko> lol nope
[11:46] <mart> Jacko: no, didn't think you would...
[11:46] <mart> (I do)
[11:48] <mart> Jacko: if you go to Configure Toolbars, you can add the Show Terminal Emulator action to an existing toolbar
[11:49] <Jacko> righto
[11:50] <mart> Jacko: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/konqueror/konqueror.rc?view=auto
[11:51] <mart> that's the default kde version of the konqueror config, you could put that into $HOME/.kde/share/apps/konqueror if you want the default behaviour, I guess
[11:51] <mart> um
[11:51] <mart> no
[11:51] <mart> not that link
[11:51] <mart> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/konqueror/konqueror.rc?view=auto
[11:52] <Jacko> ah
[11:52] <Jacko> cheers
[11:53] <mart> hey, thank me if it works :)
[12:00] <Jacko> hm it didn't work but I finally figured out how to change profiles and now I can see it. Now how to find out how to get rid of all the other stupid profiles... Cheers for your help though mart
[12:02] <mart> wow! there's a KDE development profile :)
[12:06] <jmg> profiles?
[12:07] <mart> jmg: Konqueror, Settings->Load View Profile
[12:07] <jmg> mart: hhhhmmmmm
[12:08] <mart> jmg: hhmmm?
[12:08] <jmg> mart: gah what a shame
[12:08] <jmg> i left my laptop charger at work
[12:16] <vegiVamp> gibarian: check wether kded for media is active in control panel
[12:16] <Jacko> jmg: well that has got to suck
[12:18] <gibarian> vegiVamp: yep, it's running.
[12:19] <vegiVamp> and somewhere in desktop behaviour or so, wether it's allowed to show desktop icons for various mounted and unmounted devices
[12:26] <jeh_work> does breezy support a normal ipod out of the box? or do i have to try to find some source for the ipodslave from somewhere?
[12:26] <jeh_work> amarok at least claims to have some support for it, but what is needed for the "behind the scenes" ipod database sync?
[12:32] <jeh_work> otherwise breezy seems like a really, really nice version
[12:32] <jeh_work> stuff just works
[12:35] <aftertaf> (tm)
[12:38] <Tm_T> Kubuntu <4
[12:38] <Tm_T> whops
[12:38] <Tm_T> <3
[12:39] <oralcel> lol
[12:40] <oralcel> jeh_work, exactly
[12:40] <jeh_work> at least after 1h of testing it's much nicer than hoary
[12:41] <oralcel> I'm tempted, just as an experiment, to install breezy on my familys comp and see how it works out
[12:41] <jeh_work> katapult seems nice too, but the new control center (system settings?) was horribly buggy
[12:41] <boldii> hi
[12:41] <jeh_work> i simply clicked on one icon in the system settings window, and the layout changed and then i couldn't get back anymore. horrible repaint issues too
[12:42] <boldii> I accidently removed the menu entries from /etc/xdg/menus how can I get them back?
[12:44] <jeh_work> heh, if i try to purge the obsolete package "libgtk1.2" i seem to also purge packages like: kate-plugins, python-qt3 etc
[12:45] <aftertaf> dont believe all that is obsolete ;)
[12:49] <jeh_work> aftertaf: no, it isn't
[12:49] <jeh_work> aftertaf: that's what makes it slightly funny...
[12:49] <aftertaf> hehe
[12:49] <jeh_work> but gtk1.2 is obsolete, even in the gnome world
[12:49] <aftertaf> i needed it to compile E.
[12:50] <aftertaf> -dev anyway
[12:52] <jeh_work> i don't even have E installed
[12:52] <aftertaf> hehe  i do, now !
[12:55] <boldii> anybody an idea where I can find the default kubuntu menu, that means in which package?
[12:55] <aftertaf> boldii:  define, default menu...
[12:56] <boldii> aftertaf: the menu I get when I install kubuntu the first time.
[12:56] <aftertaf> the "start" menu?
[12:57] <aftertaf> its part of kicker i think, which is in kdebase, i think.
[12:57] <aftertaf> you want to restore the menu to default?
[12:57] <boldii> aftertaf: yes.
[12:57] <jeh_work> ah, there was a package for ipodlsave, it just wasn't default
[12:57] <aftertaf> you borked it?
[12:58] <boldii> aftertaf: exactly ;)
[12:59] <aftertaf> hehe. dude, i sympathinse.    but i dont know howyou can do that.   what is happening? any error message?
[01:00] <boldii> aftertaf: well, erm, I removed /etc/xdg/menus (I was sure I had a backup)
[01:00] <aftertaf> what is xdg a part of?
[01:01] <mart> aftertaf: it's just the standard place to put that kind of menu stuff
[01:01] <aftertaf> you could try a dpkg-reconfigure of kdebase
[01:01] <aftertaf> !info kicker
[01:01] <ubotu> kicker: (desktop panel for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 1638 kB, Installed size: 4904 kB
[01:01] <aftertaf> or kicker, even...
[01:01] <boldii> aftertaf: kicker doesn't include this, I already checked that.
[01:01] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, i figured the auto mounting out
[01:01] <CaiN_SA> still having probs
[01:02] <CaiN_SA> but will fix it
[01:02] <aftertaf> boldii:  argh.
[01:02] <mart> er, if the files from /etc/xdg/menus have been deleted, just reinstalling the packages would replace them
[01:02] <aftertaf> CaiN_SA:  nice to hear :)
[01:02] <aftertaf> mart:  yeah, which package though?
[01:02] <mart> aftertaf: any packages that have missing menu entries
[01:02] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, the mounted things doesnt open correct tho, konqueror wants to open /dev/cdrom instead of /media/cdrom etc
[01:02] <aftertaf> boldii:  what state is your K menu in right now?
[01:03] <boldii> aftertaf: it is the menu of my former debian sarge installation.
[01:03] <aftertaf> CaiN_SA:  yeah, i noticed.... does /dev/hdX too :/
[01:04] <boldii> I could remove kubuntu completely, I mean the virtual package and reinstall it, that should fix it, right?
[01:04] <boldii> brb
[01:04] <mart> boldii: er
[01:04] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, so its normal ?
[01:04] <mart> boldii: that's a bit overkill
[01:05] <boldii> mart: so what else could I do?
[01:05] <mart> boldii: moment...
[01:05] <boldii> ok.
[01:07] <gsuveg> re
[01:07] <mart> boldii: cd /var/lib/dpkg/info && grep /etc/xdg/menus *.list | sed 's/.list:.*//'|sort|uniq
[01:07] <gsuveg> anybody know a kde variant of audacity ?
[01:07] <mart> try reinstalling the packages it lists
[01:09] <nikkia> gsuveg: there really isn't one, most of the audio editors are gtk based....
[01:09] <boldii> mart: thank you very much.
[01:09] <nikkia> gsuveg: you can usually get audacity to work via artsdsp or such, personally, i use sweep, wrapped to use jack using jack_launch
[01:09] <aftertaf> cool :)
[01:10] <gsuveg> nikki with artsdsp or ?
[01:10] <boldii> cya
[01:11] <aftertaf> nice one mart :)
[01:11] <nikkia> gsuveg: which wrapper you use depends on which sound api/server you're using
[01:11] <nikkia> gsuveg: jack is the best approach for serious audio stuff
[01:11] <gsuveg> nikki i never heard from it
[01:11] <gsuveg> its like the arts ?
[01:11] <nikkia> gsuveg: not quite, no
[01:12] <nikkia> gsuveg: its a more 'pro' orientated sound API that sits on top of alsa/oss for drivers
[01:12] <gsuveg> ah
[01:12] <gsuveg> nikki url of fm ?
[01:12] <nikkia> fm?
[01:13] <gsuveg> fine manual
[01:16] <nikkia> gsuveg: for jack? it'll be on jackit.sourceforge.net i imagine
[01:17] <gsuveg> nikki thanks
[01:29] <Kinomees> i added a secondary video card. how to configure it ?
[01:32] <djblizzzard> You may have to do this manually... I'm pretty new to kubuntu... but go into your xorg.conf and create another set of device and monitor settings for that video card...   You may also want to see if kubuntu has xinerama, as that will help xorg think that your working with one larger desktop than two seperate xorgs servers...
[01:33] <djblizzzard> you should be able to find a few examples if you google say "xorg dualhead" or something to that effect...
[01:37] <sedeki> how do i add truetype fonts?
[01:39] <aftertaf> !msttfcorefonts
[01:39] <ubotu> aftertaf: I haven't a clue
[01:40] <sedeki> aftertaf I don't have "msttfcorefonts" in universe
[01:41] <sedeki> And it's not only mscorefonts I want!
[01:41] <aftertaf> ah
[01:41] <sedeki> you have any clue?
[01:42] <aftertaf> nope sorry
[01:45] <grosser> Hallo
[01:52] <jeh_work> what should be the default g++ version for breezy?
[01:52] <jeh_work> 3.3, 3.4 or 4.0?
[01:53] <sedeki> 3.4
[01:53] <sedeki> no, sorry
[01:53] <sedeki> 3.3
[01:53] <sedeki> no 3.4 i belive. let me check
[01:53] <jeh_work> ok
[01:53] <sedeki> 3.3
[01:53] <jeh_work> ok
[01:54] <jeh_work> thanks
[01:54] <jeh_work> wasn't there supposed to be this ABI change for breezy?
[01:54] <grosser> hello
[01:54] <grosser> i installed
[01:54] <grosser> kubuntu5.10 yet
[01:55] <grosser> now i looking for a programm (testdisk)
[01:55] <sedeki> jeh_work I have no idea. check their homepage
[01:55] <grosser> i can`t download it over apt
[01:56] <sedeki> grosser okey, you need to edit your sources.list
[01:56] <jeh_work> sedeki: ok
[01:56] <sedeki> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:57] <sedeki> you see this line ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' ??
[01:57] <kkathman> Greetings all :)
[01:57] <sedeki> grosser ?
[01:57] <sedeki> kkathman greetings!
[01:57] <grosser> moment
[01:58] <kkathman> Hi there sedeki :)
[01:58] <kkathman> How are you?
[01:58] <Kinomees> if i put nvidia-glx-config enable then my X wont work :(
[01:58] <grosser> sedeki: and than?
[01:59] <sedeki> Kinomees have you read a nvidia tutorial?
[01:59] <sedeki> grosser do what it says, remove #'s in front of the lines under that commentblock
[02:00] <grosser> sedeki: ok. i remove ##
[02:00] <kkathman> Hey sedeki, did you upgrade ok to breezy?
[02:00] <sedeki> grosser no!!
[02:00] <sedeki> grosser right under this line "## team."
[02:01] <grosser> what?
[02:01] <sedeki> grosser there should be two lines with only one # each
[02:01] <grosser> no
[02:01] <sedeki> kkathman there are guides for upgrading to breezy
[02:01] <grosser> only ##
[02:01] <jeh_work> sedeki: i think that 3.4 is the default compiler, at least qt is compiled with it
[02:01] <kkathman> sedeki: ya I know I upgraded last night :)
[02:01] <jeh_work> ld: warning: libstdc++.so.6, needed by /usr/share/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.5
[02:01] <sedeki> grosser okey, stop editing without changes
[02:02] <jeh_work>  libstdc++.so.6 comes with g++-3.4, the .5 comes with 3.3
[02:02] <grosser> sedeki: ok
[02:02] <sedeki> grosser run sudo apt-setup
[02:02] <grosser> i stopped
[02:03] <kkathman> sedeki: Just had one little thing...the install put icons on my desktop for my samba shares labeled "Remote Share". I already had icons so I'd like to get rid of them, but I cant seem to delete them.
[02:03] <grosser> sedeki: it runs
[02:04] <grosser> it need a cd
[02:04] <sedeki> Kinomees http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[02:04] <sedeki> grosser no, skip CD
[02:04] <sedeki> you want to add a FTP
[02:04] <grosser> but by cd-reader doesn`t work
[02:05] <Kinomees> ok .. ill do it over again :P
[02:05] <grosser> sedeki: ok
[02:05] <grosser> FTP
[02:05] <kkathman> never mind I found it :)
[02:06] <grosser> choose the country of the mirror
[02:06] <sedeki> grosser choose the closest mirror to you
[02:07] <grosser> error
[02:07] <grosser> i choosed german
[02:08] <sedeki> grosser http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:08] <sedeki> that's what you're actually doing. read it.
[02:09] <kkathman> I suppose I should actually install adept
[02:09] <grosser> ok, i choosed schweiz
[02:09] <grosser> and it works
[02:09] <thoreauputic> !ubuntuguide
[02:09] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[02:09] <kkathman> greets thoreauputic  :)
[02:10] <thoreauputic> hi kkathman :)
[02:10] <kkathman> aha!! adept was installed when I upgraded!! Excellent :)
[02:12] <ep> how does adept stack up against synaptic?
[02:12] <apokryphos> not too well, but it's gettin' there
[02:12] <pippolo> hello
[02:12] <pippolo> I tryed kubuntu 5.10 and I can't set gateway
[02:13] <pippolo> the live CD
[02:13] <pippolo> I modify gateway but it doesn't set it
[02:13] <pippolo> which is the Kubuntu root password
[02:13] <pippolo> ?
[02:13] <apokryphos> !root
[02:13] <ubotu> well, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:13] <kkathman> greetings apokryphos  :)
[02:13] <apokryphos> hey; how's it going? :)
[02:14] <kkathman> not bad...completed my upgrade last night to breezy...took about 6 hours :)
[02:14] <apokryphos> ouch
[02:14] <apokryphos> at least it got there eventually; how are you finding it?
[02:14] <kkathman> yah..slow connection...I didnt use the mirrors
[02:15] <kkathman> so far, so good...everything exactly the same as it was, except for java
[02:15] <kkathman> apparently java didnt migrate
[02:15] <pippolo> breezy is not the final 5.10?
[02:15] <sedeki> grosser you should be able to install testdisk now
[02:16] <apokryphos> kkathman: you can get them from /msg ubotu javadebs
[02:16] <apokryphos> pippolo: it is
[02:16] <pippolo> apokryphos: there is a bug at least into live-cd
[02:16] <apokryphos> ..which is?
[02:16] <pippolo> apokryphos: you can't apply gateway changes
[02:16] <kkathman> apokryphos: ok thanks....I really had a ordeal last time installing the java SDK
[02:17] <pippolo> at least into the CD-live
[02:17] <apokryphos> kkathman: there's debs so it should be ok; if you did the other method it could've been problematic, I'm sure.
[02:17] <kkathman> apokryphos: you sure that was the right command...its says it doesnt know what the heck I'm talking about :)
[02:18] <apokryphos> kkathman: *javadeb
[02:18] <kkathman> ahh ok
[02:18] <pippolo> bye bye
[02:18] <kkathman> hehe singular :)
[02:18] <apokryphos> ubotu: javadebs is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[02:18] <ubotu> apokryphos: okay
[02:19] <mpmc> Erm, I'm trying to install Apache (1 series) with php support.. what packages do I need to install for it to work?
[02:19] <apokryphos> ubotu: no javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[02:19] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[02:19] <mpmc> Amy ideas?
[02:20] <sedeki> mpmc apache, libapache-mod-php4 ?
[02:21] <sedeki> mpmc or php4-cgi
[02:21] <sedeki> i dont know.
[02:21] <mpmc> I've already installed that as well as trying to restart apache..
[02:22] <sedeki> mpmc you probably need to review your configfile
[02:22] <sedeki> for it to load php module
[02:22] <mpmc> wheres that?
[02:23] <mpmc> /etc/init.d/ apache?
[02:23] <sedeki> no, the configfile.
[02:23] <kkathman> I cant seem to find how to make firefox the default browser...that setting is missing in the 1.0.7 version that got installed :(
[02:23] <sedeki> mpmc i think it's in /etc somewhere.
[02:24] <sedeki> mpmc init.d/ is boot up scripts and etc.
[02:24] <kkathman> did they do away with the KDE Control Center?
[02:25] <mpmc> I found it, but its already been added...
[02:25] <mpmc> <IfModule mod_php4.c>
[02:25] <mpmc>   AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3
[02:25] <mpmc>   AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps

[02:25] <mpmc> see
[02:25] <mpmc> sry about that
[02:26] <sedeki> mpmc there is another file too.
[02:26] <sedeki> uhm, line.
[02:26] <grosser> sedeki: ok, now i can download testdisk
[02:27] <mpmc> I don't know :/
[02:27] <sedeki> mpmc wait.
[02:27] <grosser> sedeki: problem
[02:28] <grosser> Kann nicht auf die Liste http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backport                        s/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-b                        ackports_main_binary-i386_Packages) der Quellpakete zugreifen. - stat (2 Datei o                        der Verzeichnis nicht gefunden)
[02:28] <sedeki> mpmc do you have a "LoadModule" line?
[02:28] <mpmc> Hmm.. wait..
[02:28] <dude> hello all ,i'm using kubuntu 5.10 amd 64 and parts of the software/kde windows is freezing and it's show nothing in the this window but i can move to another window and after a while this window also freez sorry about the unxplainted quostion  but i don't know which details to add...
[02:37] <gibarian> hey everyone...are there any known issues with breezy and the kded monitoring USB devices?
[02:39] <Riddell> gibarian: yes, it doesn't use hal
[02:39] <Riddell> gibarian: No 2 on my "things to fix today"
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> vegiVamp: coffee :)
[02:41] <vegiVamp> hehe
[02:41] <gibarian> Riddell: Ah, great to see that I haven't borked the system myself...
[02:41] <Riddell> vegiVamp: fixed width font has a typo in it making konsole's font look weird
[02:41] <gibarian> Riddell: I started using that YaKuake thing...is that going to be included into the official release sometime?
[02:42] <Riddell> gibarian: yes, it'll replace konsole
[02:42] <Riddell> (not really)
[02:42] <nikkia> riddell, i've said it before, and i'll say it again, i'm weary of software that sounds like 'bukake' :P
[02:42] <Riddell> nikkia: that's my biggest complaint too
[02:43] <Riddell> yet another konsole quake I think this one is, yuck
[02:43] <gibarian> yeah, terrible name, nice app
[02:44] <gibarian> and I like that katapult too...now that I've learned that you actually have to type something in order to start something ;)
[02:45] <xuniL____> hello all,,,
[02:45] <Riddell> katapult probably needs a prompot on first run
[02:45] <Riddell> hi xuniL____
[02:45] <ph8> hi all
[02:45] <xuniL____> kubuntu.orgs homepage are buggy for me...
[02:45] <apokryphos> nikkia: heyhey :)
[02:45] <nikkia> hey apokryphos
[02:45] <Riddell> xuniL____: what's up?
[02:45] <xuniL____> can just see half lof the first letter..
[02:46] <Riddell> xuniL____: which browser?
[02:46] <ph8> I've just connected my Kubuntu to my university network, i need to mount a machine called hudson using samba, it's not working (connection to hudson failed) - do i need some sort of special samba configuration to use a large network like this? A way to list all available machines would be REALLY useful also - or links, don't really know a lot about it :(
[02:46] <Riddell> ph8: try typing  smb:/  into konqueror
[02:47] <ph8> ah good call
[02:47] <nikkia> most likely, you're not in the right workgroup/domain name
[02:47] <nikkia> using smb:/ in konqueror should list the wg/domain's seen
[02:48] <xuniL____> can you play games like frozen throne on linux just having wine and not cedega?
[02:48] <ph8> apparently to mount my j drive (work drive on hudson) i should use the mount -t smbfs -o username=username,workgroup=mds
[02:48] <ph8> there's no mds group here
[02:48] <ph8> i can't actually get into any of them apart from one called 'Workgroup' and even then i can't access any of the machines in there
[02:48] <ph8> (add //hudson/username /mnt/jdrive) to th end of that cmd
[02:49] <ph8> any useful tips?
[02:50] <ph8> .. please? ;)
[02:53] <xuniL____> done 5% of the download now
[02:53] <xuniL____> will reinstall linux tomarrow
[02:56] <ph8> can anyone offer further wisdom?
[02:57] <xuniL____> shake
[02:57] <Riddell> ph8: smb://hudson/username  in konqueror maybe
[02:57] <Riddell> also if hudson has an ip address try using that as well
[02:58] <ph8> tried that in konqueror
[02:58] <ph8> errors out
[02:58] <ph8> 'could not connect to host'
[02:58] <ph8> should there be any config i need to do?
[02:58] <ph8> i have smbd and nmbd running
[02:58] <ph8> not sure of hudson's ip address :/
[02:58] <ph8> at least internally, i know its external but that doesn't work
[02:59] <satafterh> has anyone dowloaded the dvd with success
[02:59] <satafterh> the torrent that is
[03:00] <xuniL____> no but soon
[03:02] <ph8> oops! Did i miss any profound wisdom?
[03:02] <satafterh> ktorrent keeps saying it cant download the dvd torrent because it doesnt exsist or corrupt
[03:02] <Riddell> ph8: I'm afraid not :(
[03:06] <ph8> bugger :/
[03:06] <ph8> means i can't do lots of my work
[03:06] <ph8> i just don't understand why it's not working
[03:06] <ph8> i know what to do
[03:06] <ph8> i'm going to hop to the windows partition and make sure it's mountable
[03:06] <ph8> later
[03:07] <xuniL____> a smal tip on an game Enemy territory... its greate and its free..
[03:07] <charolastra> hi everyone
[03:07] <xuniL____> hello
[03:08] <OculusAquilae> hello xuniL____
[03:08] <charolastra> in what package is the mp3 codec hidden?
[03:08] <OculusAquilae> gstreamer-mad
[03:08] <OculusAquilae> in multiverse
[03:10] <jalel> no estou usando a distro Kunbutu e sim Kurumin --- estou dando suporte em um curso a distncia --- mesmo assim eh possvel receber suporte nesta sala ???? ou s para quem usa Kunbutu ???????
[03:10] <xuniL____> eng plz.---
[03:10] <hyperactivecrond> !fr
[03:10] <ubotu> from memory, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:11] <hyperactivecrond> !es
[03:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:12] <hyperactivecrond> gawd what language is he?
[03:12] <hyperactivecrond> !ne
[03:12] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:12] <satafterh> ktorrent must havee a bug, i could not download dvd torrent with it but bittornado is working finee
[03:13] <hyperactivecrond> !nd
[03:13] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:13] <hyperactivecrond> grr idk
[03:13] <hyperactivecrond> jalel: which language do you speak
[03:15] <strike4ce> Why do I still have the old Kynaptic package manager?
[03:16] <OculusAquilae> strike4ce: because you didn't remove it
[03:20] <strike4ce> OculusAquilae:  How do I remove it?
[03:21] <OculusAquilae> strike4cd: for example with Adept
[03:26] <claudiu> helo
[03:26] <claudiu> hello
[03:26] <xuniL____> hello claudiu
[03:26] <claudiu> i can't install wesnoth. i am coming from gentoo and not too familiarized with this apt thing
[03:27] <claudiu> i tried       sudo apt-get install wesnoth