[17:21] <mrkie> it's configuring
[17:21] <pgx> do you know how to put service bluetooth stop in a script?
[17:21] <pgx> bonzibuddy
[17:22] <bonzibuddy> pgx: 1 sec
[17:24] <mrkie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14568216/
[17:24] <mrkie> ballmer: that's the pastebin but i don't even have windows 8
[17:25] <bonzibuddy> pgx: try update-rc.d bluetooth stop 20 2 3 4 5
[17:25] <bonzibuddy> that will put in the kill scripts in /etc/rc*d/
[17:25] <mrkie> i will reboot now
[17:25] <ballmer> mrkie: try booting, it looks good, sometimes it doesn't get the version number right on the menu not that doesn't matter, mine says vista instead of windows 10
[17:26] <pgx> doenst work xD
[17:26] <mrkie> ok
[17:26] <bonzibuddy> pgx: the issue is if its not in /etc/init it will not run as root
[17:27] <bonzibuddy> pgx: you could put the stop command in your .bashrc with sudo, and use visudo to let that command run as root without a password prompt
[17:27] <pgx> bonzibuddy what about the script ?
[17:27] <bonzibuddy> pgx: the script will just be whatever you type on the command line already
[17:28] <bonzibuddy> ie
[17:28] <bonzibuddy> sudo /usr/sbin/service bluetooth stop
[17:28] <bonzibuddy> it has to be in a script that runs after you log in tho
[17:28] <bonzibuddy> i think thats the issue
[17:28] <bonzibuddy> rc.local is probably working... but when you log into the desktop
[17:28] <bonzibuddy> ubuntus like "well pgx probably needs bluetooth so lets start that"
[17:29] <bonzibuddy> pgx: my apologies dont use .bashrc, use .profile
[17:30] <pgx> bonzibuddy it worked fine like i did it before
[17:30] <pgx> i just can't remember what there was in the file
[17:30] <pgx> and i don't know how to write a script with this command: service bluetooth stop
[17:31] <bonzibuddy> pgx thats like the script already right there
[17:31] <bonzibuddy> scripts are just running whatever is in the file like you were at a shell
[17:31] <bonzibuddy> but you will need to give the canonical path to the "service" command
[17:31] <bonzibuddy> /usr/sbin/service
[17:31] <pgx> so it would be like
[17:32] <pgx> ?
[17:33] <pgx> ? /usr/sbin/service bluetooth stop?
[17:34] <bonzibuddy> pgx: https://gist.github.com/trdenton/1f15067cac3ce524d33a
[17:35] <pgx> thankyou thankyou thnak you
[17:35] <pgx> <3
[17:35] <bonzibuddy> pgx no prob
[17:36] <bonzibuddy> pgx just curious, why do you need bluetooth disabled on startup?
[17:36] <bonzibuddy> if you can divulge
[17:39] <pgx> bonzibuddy So the situation is the following: i want bluetooth disabled cause i dont always need it and it consumes power. i want to start  it with service bluetooth start, because that's the only way i can keep all the wlakaround i needed to make mouse and speakers work
[17:39] <pgx> xD
[17:40] <bonzibuddy> pgx ahh makes sense
[17:40] <pgx> ^^
[17:40] <pgx> i rebbot now
[17:40] <pgx> see ya soon
[17:42] <lerner> im not sure how to use chmod to set a directory owned by root:root to be readable by root and me, not any other user
[17:42] <k1l_> lerner: which directory?
[17:42] <bonzibuddy> lerner: you could set group to root and user to yourself
[17:43] <lerner> chmod u+rw /dev/sda1 wouldnt work, right?
[17:44] <bonzibuddy> lerner I would recommend chown -R lerner:root <dir>
[17:44] <bonzibuddy> chmod o-rw -R <dir>
[17:45] <k1l_> lerner: dont chmod devices
[17:45] <lerner> bonzibuddy, this is for an encrypted hdd, would that work?
[17:45] <k1l_> lerner: you chmod the mountpoint
[17:45] <k1l_> or chown
[17:45] <bonzibuddy> lerner: heed k1l_'s device, chmod the mountpoint
[17:46] <k1l_> lerner: and you can chown the mountpoint to your user only and set the chmod to owner access only
[17:49] <lerner> mountpoint is fore example: /media/lerner/disk2 <?
[17:54] <givello> Hey there, not sure if it's the right channel for the question but I'm having a little bit of trouble with nvidia drivers since updating to 358 (I think). I've got a GTX770 and every time I boot up I need to go in the nvidia settings manager, in the advanced settings, and change my refresh rate from 60Hz(1) to 60Hz(2). Otherwise, the resolution is stretched and too wide for the screen
[17:54] <givello> I've tried using the option to save the setting to xorg.conf but it doesn't seem to have any lasting effect
[17:54] <givello> I also don't understand why I need to do that whilst previously the automatic settings used to work fine
[17:54] <givello> any idea?
[17:55] <givello> (or tips as to where to ask)
[17:55] <givello> Also, I'm not sure what this 60Hz(2) setting even means.
[17:56] <Bashing-om> givello: Do not know .. but Nvidia recomends the 352 version driver : https://gist.github.com/trdenton/1f15067cac3ce524d33a .
[17:57] <PCatinean> hey guys
[17:57] <PCatinean> I get a require_once(file) ailed to open stream permission denied
[17:57] <PCatinean> And am running Nginx
[17:58] <PCatinean> How do I know under which user it runs so I know how to add permissions
[17:59] <EriC^^> it's probably www-data
[18:00] <EriC^^> try ps aux | grep nginx
[18:00] <givello> Bashing-om: alright, thanks. Well, it works fine enough for me save for that small annoyance, so I'll just wait until they fix it I guess then.
[18:03] <Bashing-om> givello: K; But only takes a few minutes to purge the 358 version and see what results when 252 is installed .
[18:05] <givello> Bashing-om: yeah you're right, I'll test to see if that was really the culprit, or if I goofed up somewhere else
[18:06] <Bashing-om> givello: How did you install the 358 version . Makes a difference in removing it .
[18:09] <givello> Bashing-om: okay, that does fix it. I guess I'll wait until nvidia gives the green light then.
[18:09] <givello> Bashing-om: oh it was through this repository I saw advertised with the latest drivers
[18:10] <givello> Bashing-om: this one: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:11] <Cyber_Akuma> I can't seem to figure out how to setup tightvnc on ubuntu. I ran "sudo apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies tightvncserver" to get the packages then "vncserver" to start and configure the server, but I can't connect from even a lan connection
[18:11] <Bashing-om> givello: Best one we have now ... All the good guys went there .
[18:16] <lerner> lets say I rename an encrypted partition (luks) to something more understandable than ejghk5042465439fhgjBFI23. Would that affect luks, or destroy already stored data?
[18:26] <requiest> hi all
[18:27] <requiest> in ubuntu 15.04 how to remove menu list items. only required ubuntu and windows options
[18:28] <pumuckel> who would like to play monopoly with me?
[18:28] <nicomachus> pumuckel: stop.
[18:29] <Ntemis> hi
[18:29] <Ntemis> just upgraded to 14.04 and my kernel is still 3.13
[18:29] <EriC^^> Ntemis: 14.04 uses 3.13
[18:29] <Ntemis> and no upgrade shown on sys update
[18:29] <jerbot> still working on the powerpc, here.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#A_kernel_module_is_missing_from_the_alternate.2BAC8-mini_isos.3B_what_can_I_do.3F
[18:30] <EriC^^> requiest: type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:30] <Ntemis> 3.13.0-74-generic
[18:30] <Ntemis> anyway to upgrade to latest?
[18:30] <EriC^^> Ntemis: yeah
[18:30] <jerbot> Trying to follow those instructions and stuck trying to download from launchpad
[18:30] <Bashing-om> !hwe | Ntemis
[18:30] <Ntemis> apt dont show any updates
[18:31] <EriC^^> you could try the linux-generic-lts-vivid package
[18:31] <Ntemis> oh i have to manually upgrade?
[18:31] <requiest> hey right now i am on windows
[18:31] <Ntemis> why doesnt get me there automatically?
[18:31] <EriC^^> requiest: you meant you had a bunch of menu entries in grub right?
[18:31] <requiest> yes
[18:31] <EriC^^> Ntemis: cause those are kernels from different ubuntu versions
[18:32] <Ntemis> so i better stick to this one?
[18:32] <RFleming> Greetings!
[18:32] <RFleming> where's a good spot to talk backups?
[18:32] <EriC^^> Ntemis: why do you need it?
[18:32] <Ntemis> backspot
[18:32] <Bashing-om> Ntemis: " sysop@1404mini:~$ uname -r >> 3.13.0-74-generic " upgrading the kernel may not be the best thing ... depends on your hardware and use case .
[18:32] <EriC^^> yeah and if you do upgrade the kernel, upgrade the xorg stack too
[18:33] <Ntemis> i want to be stable as rock
[18:33] <jerbot> So I went here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux and trying to figure out if it's possible to download from there
[18:33] <Ntemis> very stable
[18:33] <Ntemis> thats why i waited this long to upgrade
[18:33] <Ntemis> so now am on 14.04.2?
[18:33] <EriC^^> then definitely don't use any hwe stacks i guess
[18:34] <requiest> it is dual boot windows and ubuntu linux 15.04 only 2 option needs to be display and not seconds counts
[18:34] <EriC^^> no, 14.04.3
[18:34] <Bashing-om> Ntemis: Unless there is a issue to remian as stable as possible, remain on the 3.13 series kernel .
[18:34] <EriC^^> requiest: what seconds counts?
[18:34] <EriC^^> you mean the timer at the bottom?
[18:34] <Ntemis> there was a print cup issues on my login
[18:34] <Ntemis> bug sent already
[18:35] <Ntemis> printcups something
[18:35] <requiest> time 10 secons default booting counts
[18:35] <requiest> yes
[18:35] <Ntemis> can i have the 3.18.25 LTS guys?
[18:35] <Ntemis> on 14.04.3
[18:35] <Ntemis> i prefer the LTS kernel
[18:37] <Ntemis> also apt says apache2.2-bin libapache2-mod-dnssd kept back but i cannot install them
[18:37] <Ntemis> dist-upgrade says all ok
[18:37] <nacc> Ntemis: I think you're confusing a few different things ... there are several HWE kernels (effectively one was added by each 14.04.x, I think).
[18:38] <nacc> Ntemis: if you don't have new hardware to enable, there's not really a reason to switch to a later HWE kernel, afaict
[18:38] <Ntemis> Calculating upgrade... Done
[18:38] <Ntemis> The following packages have been kept back:
[18:38] <Ntemis>   apache2.2-bin libapache2-mod-dnssd
[18:38] <nacc> Ntemis: particularly if you're worried/focused on stability
[18:38] <Ntemis> i am
[18:38] <Ntemis> am staying here
[18:38] <Ntemis> so some bugs to squash
[18:38] <Ntemis> dist-upgrade dont let me update those
[18:39] <Ntemis> and 2 not upgraded but no way to update them
[18:39] <Bashing-om> !info apache2 trusty
[18:39] <Ntemis> shall i remove them?
[18:39] <nacc> Ntemis: probably it needs some manual intervention, try `apt-get install apache2.2-bin` to see what apt says
[18:39] <mcphail> Ntemis: have you added any PPAs or other non-standard repos?
[18:40] <Ntemis> ppas were cleaned out before upgrade
[18:40] <Ntemis> it needs to remove this gnome-user-share
[18:40] <mcphail> By "cleaned out", do you mean removed from the list, or every PPA package tracked down and purged?
[18:41] <Ntemis> is it ok to be removed?
[18:41] <Ntemis> no by the upgrader
[18:42] <mcphail> Ntemis: unfortunately, it isn't going to be possible to advise you. PPAs can do their own thing, messing up dependencies in ways which are not easily resolvable. It will _probably_ be OK to simply remove those packages, but noone will no for sure
[18:42] <mcphail> Ntemis: that's why PPAs aren't supported
[18:42] <Bashing-om> Ntemis: ' apt-cache show gnome-user-share >> Priority: optional " so will not hurt the system at large if removed .
[18:42] <Ntemis> ok thanks mcphail
[18:43] <requiest> is there anything to do with grub conf file
[18:43] <Ntemis> ok am clean now
[18:43] <Ntemis> no issues to resolve
[18:43] <Ntemis> nice
[18:44] <Ntemis> thanks guys
[18:44] <Ntemis> one last thing
[18:44] <Ntemis> i want to auto login to desktop
[18:44] <Ntemis> how i enable this?
[18:46] <OerHeks> Ntemis, systemsetting > account
[18:50] <requiest> in ubuntu 15.04 how to remove menu list items. only required ubuntu and windows options
[18:50] <bonzibuddy> requiest: do you mean the items that show up in the dash? when you click the ubuntu logo in top lefT?
[18:51] <requiest> no at the system boot
[18:51] <bonzibuddy> requiest: is it grub?
[18:52] <requiest> oparating list
[18:52] <requiest> yes
[18:52] <bonzibuddy> requiest there is a file in /boot/ that i believe you can edit..... 1s
[18:52] <requiest> yes grub.conf
[18:52] <requiest> i am using 15.04 version
[18:53] <bonzibuddy> requiest I cannot give you instructions on how to edit it myself, but the menu is configured via /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:54] <requiest> yes
[18:54] <bonzibuddy> requiest what are the other items
[18:55] <bonzibuddy> are they just old kernels etc?
[18:55] <bonzibuddy> "Ubuntu with blalblalabla"
[18:56] <requiest> ubunt
[18:56] <requiest> advance
[18:57] <requiest> memeory -----
[18:57] <requiest> and windows
[18:58] <bonzibuddy> requiest, editing grub.cfg can get you what you want but you must exercise caution.  I dont know if there is an app for managing it in an easier fashion or not
[19:01] <squinty> !grub
[19:02] <squinty> might also want to check out Burg
[19:02] <layan> how to install gimp 2.9 ?
[19:02] <nicomachus> layan: sudo apt-get install gimp
[19:03] <layan> nicomachus : i wan to install 2.9
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> layan  then you need a ppa or a .deb or so, but that's not supported here
[19:04] <bonzibuddy> layan: http://www.gimp.org/downloads/
[19:04] <bonzibuddy> layan: #gimp may be able to help you as well
[19:04] <layan> bonzibuddy thaks
[19:04] <kappa1> Why when I do telnet localhost 6123 I get some data, but when I do telnet hostname 6123 I get nothing?
[19:05] <nicomachus> gimp actually has their own server... irc.gimpnet.org
[19:05] <axisys> lucid64: sudo do-release-upgrade keep aborting.. http://dpaste.com/084NF2W
[19:05] <axisys> how do I upgrade from lucid64 server?
[19:05] <nicomachus> oh maybe it's irc.gimp.org
[19:06] <layan> Can i use ssh without static ip use my 3G dongle ?
[19:08] <bonzibuddy> layan: you want the ssh server to run from a 3g dongle?
[19:08] <bonzibuddy> or the client is on a 3g dongle?
[19:08] <lerner> can I use e2label on a luks hdd?
[19:08] <blaaa> Why do I get an additional keyboard entry (and a menu) to choose between the en|US layout and the en|altgr-intl layout I had selected by default for my 14.04 install?
[19:08] <layan> bonzibuddy : i  want the ssh server to run from a 3g dongle
[19:09] <jdqx> blaa: when did the additional menu appear?
[19:09] <jdqx> blaaa *
[19:10] <requiest> how to directly loin without user name and password through tty
[19:11] <george4n> hi
[19:11] <requiest> login
[19:11] <bonzibuddy> layan: youll need to set it up with a dyndns service
[19:11] <blaaa> jdqx: right away on first login
[19:11] <layan> bonzibuddy how ?
[19:11] <rerefa22> Is
[19:12] <requiest> yes
[19:12] <bonzibuddy> layan: check out dyndyns.org
[19:12] <requiest> no gui
[19:12] <bonzibuddy> layan: there are a number of services out there
[19:12] <requiest> ony tty
[19:12] <requiest> gui not installed
[19:13] <layan> How i Enable ubuntu 3d suport
[19:13] <Pici> 3/6
[19:13] <blaaa> jdqx: En1: the en|altgr-intl keyboard, En2: the en|us keyboard
[19:14] <blaaa> jdqx: I can remove En2, but I believe it should never have been created
[19:14] <lolcat> Hello
[19:14] <lolcat> apt-get stopped working
[19:15] <lolcat> It just says: -bash: apt-get: command not found
[19:15] <jdqx> blaaa: so, two keyboards right?
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> lolcat  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[19:15] <lolcat> MonkeyDust, cat: /etc/issue: No such file or directory
[19:16] <george4n> Run ` locate apt-get` and check the output
[19:16] <lolcat> george4n, returns nothing
[19:16] <george4n> never seen this one before
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> lolcat  then it's not ubuntu
[19:16] <django_> hey all whats the best github software, like to pull/push
[19:16] <s0r00t> django_: hg
[19:16] <teward> django_: 'git'
[19:16] <lolcat> MonkeyDust, What is it then?
[19:16] <geirha> Or it's ubuntu after running a recursive rm on the wrong dir
[19:17] <bhalash> Did you accidentally delete your root filesystem? :p
[19:17] <s0r00t> lolcat: hi
[19:17] <s0r00t> solace: hi
[19:17] <solace> s0r00t, hi
[19:17] <lolcat> hi s0r00t
[19:17] <s0r00t> best github software is mercurial
[19:17] <solace> all our nicks have the same char count
[19:17] <solace> that's pretty neat
[19:17] <llldino> lolcat: Do sudo which apt-get
[19:17] <lolcat> bhalash, How do I check?
[19:17] <s0r00t> solace: yup noticed tha
[19:17] <george4n> nothing at /usr/bin/apt-get ?
[19:17] <genii> best github software is subversion
[19:17] <s0r00t> genii: +1
[19:17] <bhalash> lolcat: What's the output of echo $PATH
[19:17] <lolcat> llldino, sudo which apt-get
[19:18] <lolcat> err
[19:18] <lolcat> llldino, -bash: sudo: command not found
[19:18] <george4n> holy cow, i think its time for a reinstall
[19:18] <geirha> lolcat: what did you run just before everything suddenly stopped working?
[19:18] <george4n> what did you do when this error occured?
[19:18] <lolcat> bhalash, /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/cygdrive/c/ProgramData/Oracle/Java/javapath:/cygdrive/c                                                                                /WINDOWS/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/Wbem:/cygdriv                                                                                e/c/WINDOWS/System32/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0:/cygdrive
[19:18] <lolcat> /c/Program Files (x86)/Inte                                                                                l/Services/IPT:/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Windows Live/Shared:/cygdrive/c/P                                                                                rogram Files (x86)/Skype/Phone:/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/leno
[19:18] <lolcat>                                                                              vo/easyplussdk/bin
[19:18] <bhalash> lolcat: Open another terminal. Does this problem persist?
[19:18] <lolcat> bhalash, I just have the one?
[19:19] <geirha> uhm that's cygwin
[19:19] <george4n> omg
[19:19] <llldino> lolcat, do du / -hd 1
[19:19] <bhalash> lolcat: This is a cygwin problem and beyond the scope of this chat
[19:19] <george4n> dude, youre on a windows machine...
[19:19] <OerHeks> win-terminal ROLF
[19:19] <s0r00t> "rofl"
[19:19] <george4n> someone post this to reddit
[19:19] <BigPoppa> posted to /r/cringepics
[19:19] <BigPoppa> say no more, fam
[19:20] <s0r00t> link pls
[19:20] <BigPoppa> PMed you ;)
[19:20] <Bashing-om> !lucid | axisys :A long hard road to upgrade
[19:20] <george4n> link
[19:20] <s0r00t> BigPoppa: gib link
[19:20] <s0r00t> whoops wrong room sorry
[19:20] <s0r00t> oh nevermind --'
[19:20] <austrinus> i have a question about dual booting ubuntu with mac
[19:20] <blaaa> jdqx: 1 keyboard, two layouts, with the menu to pick them showing in the top bar. I can remove the en|US keyboard through the input settings&/hide the top-bar menu, but I do not understand why the en|US layout exists in the fist place. In the installer I had chosen the altgr-intl variant
[19:21] <axisys> Bashing-om: I know.. that is why I wanted to upgrade ..
[19:21] <LifeLibertyHappi> how can i have persistent mounting on a samba share?  i have an issue where i cant mount a samba shared folder more than 2 or three times using the same username and password.  is there an option where i can change that?
[19:21] <lolcat> So how do I get apt to work? I want weechat
[19:21] <s0r00t> lolcat: did you install apt?
[19:21] <lolcat> It usually comes with linux
[19:22] <lolcat> I am so confused
[19:22] <george4n> lolcat, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:22] <Bashing-om> !EOL | axisys Can be done, but risky - a lot changed from 10.04:
[19:22] <lolcat> george4n, uhm?
[19:22] <geirha> lolcat: It's not linux, it's cygwin
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> lolcat  first repair your ubuntu, you deleted some essential folders
[19:22] <austrinus> I read recently that is a really bad idea to try to install one operating system using BIOS and another using UEFI, especially on the same disk. However, it seems that the ubuntu amd64+mac images were created to do just that
[19:22] <george4n> are you running windows or ubuntu?
[19:22] <bhalash> george4n: He isn't. He's in Windows. On Cygwin.
[19:22] <requiest> how to directly login without user name and password through tty no gui installed
[19:22] <lolcat> geirha, Isnt cygwin just a linux skin?
[19:22] <s0r00t> lolcat: you aren't using linux
[19:22] <geirha> lolcat: to install packages on cygwin, you run the cygwin setup.exe, but this is offtopic here
[19:22] <s0r00t> it's ubuntu
[19:22] <s0r00t> not the same thing at all
[19:22] <llldino> lolcat, Cygwin is not linux, it's a cli which includes bash. You're still using a windows machine it';s not the same
[19:22] <lolcat> geirha, Just like gentos is a linux skin
[19:22] <geirha> lolcat: It is nothing like ubuntu
[19:22] <ralpheeee> playing around with ubuntu netinstall installed i3wm....after installing android-studio i cannot launch in terminal or dmenu....usr/share/applications shows a desktop icon...??
[19:22] <george4n> im afraid youre in the wrong chat for that then
[19:23] <geirha> lolcat: Go to #cygwin for help with cygwin
[19:23] <lolcat> okay
[19:23] <george4n> lolcat
[19:23]  * lolcat is off to cygwin
[19:23] <Bashing-om> axisys: The path is EOL link to 12.04 and once 12.04 is stable then upgrade to 14.04 .. in April 16.04 is due to be released .
[19:23] <george4n> try apt-cyg
[19:23] <axisys> Bashing-om: obviously I cannot keep it to lucid anymore..
[19:23] <artois> lolcat: for whta?
[19:23] <artois> for what, eben
[19:23] <george4n> lolcat try apt-cyg instead of apt-get
[19:24] <axisys> Bashing-om: but do-release-upgrade fails.. so how do I go to 12.04 ?
[19:24] <lolcat> george4n, -bash: apt-cyg: command not found
[19:24] <django_> s0r00t, teward ?
[19:24] <s0r00t> teward?
[19:24] <s0r00t> wtf
[19:24] <george4n> lolcat, not sure if we can help you then, perhaps re-install cygwin
[19:25] <george4n> in any event, this is not the right place to seek advice for cywin
[19:25] <george4n> cygwin*
[19:25] <Bashing-om> axisys: Yeah .. do the EOL upgrade per the guide . then will be on 12.04 .IF and I stress IF all went well . As advised a lot has changed between 10.04 and 12.04 .. and maybe with 12.04's upstart will not go so well .. maybe yes, maybe not so yes .
[19:26] <skryptkitty> where can i get a free pdf on c programming?
[19:26] <axisys> Bashing-om: lookign for EOL upgrade..
[19:26] <bhalash> skryptkitty: "c ebook +pdf" on Google.
[19:26] <george4n> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=where+can+i+get+a+free+pdf+on+c+programming%3F
[19:26] <teward> django_: you asked what software works best for pull/push on Github.  The answer is 'git' - the actual command line software for handling git repositories :P
[19:26] <axisys> Bashing-om: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades ?
[19:26] <teward> django_: unless you mean a GUI, in which case I recommend none of them
[19:26] <django_> teward, yeah but id rather use a GUI
[19:27] <skryptkitty> ty
[19:27] <requiest> how to directly login without user name and password through tty no gui installed
[19:27] <Bashing-om> axisys: Read the provided guide - so you understand . change your sources to "archive.ubuntu/old-releases.ubuntu" and the "code" as 'lucid' .
[19:27] <jdqx> i never had luck with ubuntu upgrades. even after upgrading to 15.04 from a 14.04 fresh install.
[19:27] <george4n> requiest what do you mean?
[19:27] <vincenzo> buona sera. Questa è una prova
[19:28] <george4n> requiest are you not presented with a login screen?
[19:28] <xangua> jdqx: that's because you don't upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04
[19:28] <artois> jdqx: sounds horrific
[19:28] <george4n> lol
[19:28] <jdqx> lol
[19:28] <requiest> i mean loing without user name password
[19:28] <jdqx> was thinking about doing a clean install for 16.04 LTS when it comes out
[19:28] <george4n> you cannot login without credentials
[19:28] <jdqx> how about upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04?
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> jdqx  in april
[19:29] <george4n> perhaps, but wait a few months
[19:29] <artois> not for nothing, but if you have to do a clean install for every release, you need to either learn how to update properly, or find another distro
[19:29] <artois> reinstalling for a new version is silliness from Windows land
[19:29] <jdqx> yea i'll wait. just wondering if I can trust the upgrade procedure in that case.
[19:29] <george4n> not really, backing up on linux is simple
[19:29] <artois> either you can trust it or you can't
[19:29] <artois> if you can't, find another distro
[19:29] <george4n> and windows has many other problems that linux does not
[19:29] <george4n> such as bloat
[19:30] <requiest> ok but in gui mode we can disable right
[19:30] <jdqx> everything will be backed up anyways so i'll take the chance. if it failed, then a fresh install ensues.
[19:30] <george4n> requiest , i understand what you mean now, you dont want to type your password when you login?
[19:30] <requiest> yes
[19:30] <george4n> Just go to settings, users, select your account and choose login automatically
[19:31] <artois> jdqx: it's nice that you're safe when you waste your time utterly, but you're still wasting your time utterly
[19:31] <austrinus> can you boot a live cd via bios but install using UEFI?
[19:31] <artois> if you could, you wouldn't want to
[19:31] <artois> you having some actual problem?
[19:31] <austrinus> i'm trying to anticipate one
[19:31] <jdqx> artois: so should i stay away from ubuntu upgrade completely?
[19:32] <austrinus> i need to install ubuntu to dual boot on an existing mac
[19:32] <requiest> yes but that is for gui here i same thing want it for tty
[19:32] <requiest> without graphic
[19:32] <austrinus> but i'm unsure about how to go about doing it. some people say that using the amd64+mac image is the way to go
[19:33] <george4n> for tty its not possible
[19:33] <artois> jdqx: you need to decide that for yourself, but these things are true: 1) you should update regularly 2) updating to the latest version should not be problematic 3) reinstalling every new version is a waste of time
[19:33] <austrinus> but that image forces BIOS booting
[19:33] <artois> jdqx: if you can't manage it with one distro, it's sane to try another
[19:33] <Bashing-om> axisys: Is an old guide, but still pertinent . Page 2 is the more relevant .
[19:33] <artois> austrinus: problem anticipation
[19:33] <artois> that's what economists are paid for
[19:33] <artois> and they make money for doing nothing useful
[19:33] <artois> =)
[19:34] <austrinus> artois: lol true. but i'd prefer not to break the existing mac installation
[19:34] <austrinus> i figured the best way to do it was to boot the livestick via UEFI and install it the same way
[19:34] <george4n> requiest , you can have an autologin through ssh, if you add your id_rsa.pub to the server, you wont need passwords
[19:34] <austrinus> side by side with the mac os
[19:34] <artois> austrinus: I'm not sure you'll need special steps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/MacOSX
[19:35] <artois> not sure why you need two OSes, either, though
[19:35] <axisys> Bashing-om: so essentially replace all us.archive.ubuntu.com with us.old-releases.ubuntu.com ? it is lucid
[19:35] <austrinus> artois: because college. still need Microsoft office for a little bit longer
[19:35] <austrinus> until professors get their stuff together and linux takes over
[19:36] <Gallomimia> rEFInd is a great boot loader
[19:37] <austrinus> Gallomimia: i was going to use that
[19:37] <austrinus> the main thing that is concerning me is which disk image to use
[19:37] <austrinus> because there is an ubuntu amd64 and amd64+mac
[19:37] <austrinus> and it seems like the amd64+mac one forces boot via BIOS
[19:38] <austrinus> which I wanted to avoid for fear of Ubuntu trying to install using BIOS instead of UEFI
[19:38] <artois> austrinus: no you don't, but even if you did, it works in a VM fine
[19:38] <Delta706> akik: thanks for the tip about "expect"
[19:38] <artois> moreover, Microsoft has already moved to website-based office
[19:38] <jdqx> artois: my strategy is to update only to LTS versions after each version matures alittle.
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> jdqx  tight plan
[19:39] <artois> pointless plan
[19:39] <artois> if it takes you 5 years to get around to updating, you're doing lots of things wrong
[19:39] <Bashing-om> axisys: Yeah, you have the right of it .. make sure : 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ' sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' so all is updated then ' sudo do-release-upgrade ' . I make it a practive to PPA purge all PPAs and disable any proprietary graphics drivers 1st .
[19:39] <Delta706> jdqx: how long do you wait? a few months?
[19:40] <jdqx> Delta706, a few months to a year. seems reasonable to me.
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> i too use lts only
[19:40] <axisys> Bashing-om: yeah this is server.. let me proceed with your steps
[19:41] <Bashing-om> axisys: Check for 3rd party sources ! ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[19:42] <axisys> Bashing-om: nothing there.. empty
[19:42] <akik> Delta706: it's one of those old tools that maybe are not so popular anymore
[19:42] <Delta706> it is working great. I am testing my web server and using a terminal browser
[19:43] <Delta706> akik: so thanks for your help
[19:43] <akik> Delta706: does it work with elinks/w3m ?
[19:44] <Delta706> w3m is what I am using
[19:44] <akik> great
[19:45] <akik> Delta706: here's the history file for it http://expect.sourceforge.net/HISTORY it's from maybe 1990
[19:47] <allizom> which repository should patent-encumbered FLOSS software not officially supported by the Ubuntu team be packaged into? universe or multiverse?
[19:47] <axisys> Bashing-om: us.archive changed to old-release on sources.list file but .. do I keep security.ubuntu.com in there?
[19:49] <Bashing-om> axisys: Yes, keep all the sources .. and change all the URLs to old-releases .
[19:52] <axisys> Bashing-om: still failed .. here is the sources.list file http://dpaste.com/33DBEJ9
[19:52] <Bashing-om> axisys: look'n .
[19:53] <Gallomimia> austrinus: there's a +mac image from ubuntu? i don't think i used that
[19:54] <austrinus> Gallomimia: yeah
[19:54] <austrinus> it forces boot using the mac's BIOS compatability mode
[19:55] <ioria> axisys, you can try with this , replace karmic ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/14569614/
[19:55] <austrinus> which creates a hybrid hybrid MBR
[19:55] <austrinus> which is super hacky and bad
[19:55] <Gallomimia> at any rate. i got it going, but i don't see the refind thing  anymore. i haven't booted to ubuntu in awhile
[19:56] <austrinus> Gallomimia: it probably defaults through it. I think if you don't hold down option it might skip it or something
[19:56] <AndrewT> hi there
[19:56] <Gallomimia> hi
[19:56] <AndrewT> how are you all?
[19:56] <AndrewT> where you from?
[19:57] <chikilin> hola
[19:58] <AndrewT> anyone up for a chat
[19:58] <AndrewT> im 34yo m from malaysia
[19:58] <teward> !offtopic | AndrewT
[19:58] <ruabissh> hi
[19:58] <ruabissh> isnt  a lts for ubuntu 15?
[19:59] <axisys> need to jump into this meeting... brb
[19:59] <satelite> an install from the software center is taking a long time, how do i check and see if it is still really doing anything, or if the install is frozen
[19:59] <xangua> ruabissh: no, 14.04 is the latest stable LTS
[19:59] <Bashing-om> axisys: Looks to me like that should run . Show us the error you are getting from ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' .
[19:59] <k1l> ruabissh: no, lts is 12.04, 14.04 and 16.04 will be lts
[19:59] <ruabissh> ik yea each two versions
[20:00] <satelite> it says installing, but the progress bar hasnt moved in a while
[20:00] <k1l> ruabissh: each 4th version.
[20:00] <ruabissh> well i mean each two versions in same number
[20:01] <ruabissh> 15.4 15.10 16.04
[20:01] <Exagone313> ?
[20:01] <k1l> !releases  | ruabissh
[20:01] <xangua> ruabissh: more easy, every two years
[20:02] <HardwareExtreme> hello
[20:03] <ruabissh> well , from now till 9 months the version 16 will be out
[20:03] <ruabissh> no?
[20:03] <HardwareExtreme> Is anyone there?
[20:03] <artois> HardwareExtreme: nope
[20:03] <artois> oh wait, yup
[20:03] <HardwareExtreme> Ok, I'm having some troubles with sound drivers, and came to see if anyone can help
[20:03] <ruabissh> HardwareExtreme: no , we are goshts
[20:04] <k1l> !details | HardwareExtreme
[20:04] <jerbot> wow, ubottu you back?
[20:05] <ruabissh> i still didnt tr ubuntu 15 it comes with unity
[20:05] <ruabissh> ??
[20:05] <ruabissh> try*
[20:05] <HardwareExtreme> Ok, I have a Gigabyte GA-8I945GZME-RH with a Realtek ALC883 HD Audio codec, and Ubuntu did not find the drivers to start out with
[20:05] <ruabissh> im downloading it
[20:06] <ruabissh> hi?
[20:06] <HardwareExtreme> I downloaded the official drivers from Realtek, and unzipped them, and did what the instructions said to do, but make and make install failed. Can anyone help?
[20:06] <k1l> ruabissh: please be more specific (there are 2 ubuntu releases in 2015) and try not to flood this channel with pressing enter that often. thanks
[20:06] <jesuslovesyouthi> I'm stuck on a webmin install. I dl the .deb from thier website and installed it using software center. When I go to the login page for webmin and enter credentials root and the password I use with sudo it rejects the credentials
[20:06] <ruabissh> i mean if it comes with the unity
[20:06] <jesuslovesyouthi> If there are additional setup proceedures they aren't mentioned the websites wiki for installing the software
[20:07] <OerHeks> !webmin
[20:07] <ruabissh> unity deskto
[20:07] <ruabissh> desktop
[20:07] <sudomarize> how can i find all processes thought are outputting audio?
[20:07] <jesuslovesyouthi> awesome
[20:07] <k1l> ruabissh: yes. unity is still the standard desktop on ubuntu.
[20:08] <LTCD> Hey. I'm confused by what ls -d   does. Isn't it meant to just list directories, not other files? Tried looking at --help but still lost.
[20:08] <HardwareExtreme> Nevermind, I'll go somewhere else for help
[20:08] <k1l> LTCD: which command?
[20:08] <LTCD> k1l  ls -d
[20:09] <LTCD> What does this do as description made no sense: ls -d
[20:09] <k1l> LTCD: what does "man ls" say to -d?
[20:09] <sudomarize> anyone?
[20:09] <sudomarize> i have this constant beeping, not sure how to stop it
[20:10] <LTCD> k1l - What?
[20:10] <k1l> LTCD: look at the manpage what it does
[20:10] <muhammadabraham1> hi all
[20:10] <sudomarize> found it, you guys are useless
[20:11] <muhammadabraham1> am new to ubuntu ,and i need some help
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> sudomarize  glad i could help
[20:11] <LTCD> k1l I did it makes no sense
[20:11] <Bashing-om> !ask | muhammadabraham1
[20:12] <Pici> LTCD: it lets you list the directory's properties, instead of listing it's contents.  i.e: ls -ld /home/   will list information about /home/ itself
[20:12] <muhammadabraham1> i came from windows so i dont know what to do wiht all my programs ?
[20:12] <xangua> muhammadabraham1: use them
[20:12] <xangua> ! Manual
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> !manual | muhammadabraham1 start here
[20:13] <muhammadabraham1> how ?
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> muhammadabraham1  learn ubuntu like you learned windows: by using it
[20:13] <Guest67230> Hello I'm trying to use Netpbm to convert a png into a jpg... using teriminal. Newbie here... can someone help?
[20:13] <muhammadabraham1> ok ill give it a try ,thanks
[20:13] <LTCD> Pici Ohhh so you use it with l? So ls -ld means display info just about /home/ not what is inside it?
[20:14] <Pici> LTCD: correct. I mean, you could get that info by doing ls -la, and looking at the . entry, but this gives you just the target directory's info.
[20:14] <LiveWithHonor> Can someone help me with Netpbm?
[20:14] <ruabissh> idk why u guys come here to tell us all ur problems before taking a look at the internet
[20:14] <Avak> hi
[20:15] <OerHeks> ruabissh, welcome in the ubuntu support channel
[20:15] <LTCD> Thanks Pici
[20:15] <bob2017> tj- around?
[20:16] <ruabissh> no one pay them for their helping so atleast make it easier to them
[20:16] <Avak> can someone help me with an ubuntu install?
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> Avak  let's hear it, in one line
[20:17] <Avak> I'm trying to install the graphics drivers (for NVIDIA GTX 950M) on Ubuntu 15.10. However, after I install them, I get stuck in a log-in loop.
[20:17] <k1l> !guidelines > ruabissh
[20:19] <Bashing-om> Avak: Installing the driver from where, and what means are you employing ?
[20:19] <Avak> I installed it through the GUI from settings panel
[20:20] <Avak> I can't even open the settings panel now
[20:21] <Avak> Gives me a X Window error (when I try to open it from command prompt)
[20:22] <LTCD> Pici what if I type   ls -ld   without specifying a folder, does it use the current folder?
[20:22] <Bashing-om> Avak: Nvidia recommends the 352 version : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/95159/en-us . What version are you atrtempting to install .. Additional Drivers is generally pretty smart .
[20:22] <k1l> LTCD: yes
[20:23] <Avak> I'm installing v. 352
[20:23] <LTCD> k1l thanks
[20:24] <Avak> Output from dkms status: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14569865/
[20:24] <Bashing-om> Avak: Installong 252 now ? OR you did attempt to install 352 and failed ?
[20:24] <Avak> I installed 352 it worked
[20:24] <Avak> but when I reboot, it puts me into a login loop
[20:25] <Avak> When I attempt to login, it freezes and returns me to login
[20:26] <Bashing-om> Avak: At the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1, can you log into the system from this console interface ? We see what we can do to find the problem .
[20:26] <Avak> Bashing-om: I clean installed, installed it again, and didn't logout
[20:27] <Avak> I have a terminal open right now
[20:27] <Avak> but it seems to be very much X-issue
[20:28] <Avak> tried running unity-control-center
[20:28] <Avak> and it gave me this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14569902/
[20:28] <Exagone313> Hi, is there a working solution to transmits my screen *and* audio (unlike vnc)? I tried x2go but audio does not work, their irc channel is dead, and their documentation is wrong or not complete. Thanks for your help.
[20:28] <Bashing-om> Avak: For the new driver to take effect. need to reboot . But we can look now to see if there is a conflict in drivers . Pastbin ' dpkg -l grep -i nvidia ' .
[20:29] <zerowaitstate> Exagone313: you might look into nomachine. non-free but oh well
[20:29] <zerowaitstate> Exagone313: it's free as in cost
[20:29] <Avak> Do you mean
[20:29] <Avak> dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
[20:30] <Avak> Output from dpkg -l | grep nvidia : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14569922/
[20:31] <Bashing-om> Avak: Yes, you are correct .. sorry bout that slip .
[20:31] <Avak> Heh.
[20:31] <Avak> I think the fact that unity-control-center is crashing means it's not the graphics driver...
[20:32] <Avak> something to do with X-server...
[20:34] <Bashing-om> Avak: That output looks good to me .. reboot, and if there is still a problem we look at X's log file : ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' .
[20:34] <Exagone313> zerowaitstate: sorry but I'm not interested in non-open source :/
[20:34] <Exagone313> else, i'(m looking for a solution to stream my audio securely
[20:34] <zerowaitstate> Exagone313: that's fine. Even nomachine has issues with sound AFAIK
[20:34] <Exagone313> i'm very near to the server (ping 2ms)
[20:35] <Avak> Okay
[20:35] <Avak> let me get on the IRC on another computer
[20:35] <Bashing-om> Avak: K .
[20:35] <Avak> because I won't be able to login after the reboot
[20:36] <asyn> So, I recently installed better fonts using this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/better-font-rendering-in-linux-with.html
[20:37] <asyn> but nothing really improved. is there a way to be sure it is working?
[20:37] <ruabissh> whats new in ubuntu 15.10?
[20:37] <HackerII> its fast
[20:37] <Avak2> Ok I'm avak
[20:37] <s4my> hello guys
[20:37] <Avak2> rebooting now
[20:37] <ruabissh> just updated the repositories and etc?
[20:37] <Bashing-om> Avak: Like above, try crl+alt+F1 at the login screen if the GUI fails to start .
[20:37] <s4my> is there a way to install arduino 1.6.6 from a terminal (i mean with apt-get install)
[20:38] <Avak2> yeah
[20:38] <ruabissh> is it faster?
[20:38] <Avak2> Hold on, I forgot what you want me to do
[20:38] <Avak2> cat the Xorg file?
[20:38] <s4my> guys i need help plz how to install the latest version of the arduino ide
[20:38] <ruabissh> i hve 8gb of ram and 1TB of hdd and nvidea gforce 920mb
[20:39] <xangua> !15.10 | ruabissh
[20:39] <ruabissh> i think it will work fine
[20:39] <Bashing-om> Avak2: Yeah, if there is a problem show us ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' .
[20:39] <bekks> Bashing-om: just for my personal records - is there a difference to pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[20:40] <Loshki> Exagone313: I never found a working solution for audio. The closest I got was using rdesktop to access windows. I'm surprised no-one has hacked vnc for sound.
[20:41] <Exagone313> the main problem I think is pulseaudio: on x2go it uses it, but it seems to do not work with a windows client (didn't tried with linux, because I haven't this time)
[20:41] <bekks> Loshki: compared to RDP, VNC performs quite bad, even with all possible optimization. Putting sound on top of that would require a high-bandwidth communication to the remote.
[20:42] <Exagone313> I have it
[20:42] <Exagone313> I'm like 30km far from my server, and with otpic fiber
[20:42] <Avak2> Ah
[20:42] <Avak2> here's the pastebin of the file
[20:42] <Avak2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14570018/
[20:43] <Exagone313> i'm gonna try if vlc can stream the sound, unsecurely
[20:43] <Avak2> (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[20:44] <Bashing-om> bekks: "  difference to pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?" I think not . I can be taught better .
[20:44] <Loshki> bekks: Seems to me sound needn't require particularly high bandwidth, unless you're watching opera in hi-def.
[20:44] <Bashing-om> Avak2: Look'n at the log file .
[20:45] <Avak2> Ok
[20:46] <Avak2> Bashing-om: Line 182
[20:46] <Bashing-om> Avak2: " root=UUID=7960b950-3153-4485-ac9d-49ef3db02b7f ro nomodeset ....." remove that boot parameter, as it defats Kernel Mode Setting. No proprietary driver will be loaded .
[20:47] <Bashing-om> defeats*
[20:47] <bekks> Loshki: Well, sound in 44.1kHz stereo does need some bandwidth.
[20:48] <Avak2> Ok, rebooting without nomodeset
[20:49] <Exagone313> bekks: actually, you have to hl me
[20:49] <Exagone313> I asked
[20:49] <Avak2> Bashing-om: Okay I can login
[20:49] <coma_> Yay, just installed xuuntu
[20:50] <Exagone313> coma_: you can map b to another key
[20:50] <Bashing-om> Avak2: Great! All good now ?
[20:50] <coma_> i just not pressed that kay (b) properly :DD
[20:51] <coma_> key* sry :C
[20:51] <Avak2> Seems so
[20:51] <Avak2> Had to boot with nomodeset to install
[20:51] <Avak2> otherwise nouveau would go crazy
[20:52] <Bashing-om> Avak2: Good deal ... Kernel Mode Setting is a big deal with the system  able to recognize and use devices .
[20:53] <bekks> Exagone313: Well, I was talking to Bashing-om and Loshki :)
[20:53] <Exagone313> ok sorry
[20:54] <asyn> So, I recently installed better fonts using this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/better-font-rendering-in-linux-with.html
[20:54] <asyn> So, I recently installed better fonts using this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/better-font-rendering-in-linux-with.html
[20:54] <asyn> sorry for double post
[20:54] <Avak2> Bashing-om: thanks! bye now
[20:54] <asyn> but nothing really improved. is there a way to be sure it is working?
[20:55] <Bashing-om> Avak2: See ya next time ... happy trails to you .
[20:55] <coma_> better fonts? For what? Where u have ugly fonts?
[20:55] <asyn> or is there some better solution for better looking fonts? They look really poor after migrating from a Mac
[20:55] <asyn> especially in Chrome, but sort of everywhere... they seem blury
[20:56] <mrkie> hey
[20:56] <asyn> I have a 4k display, so I suspect that has something to do with it
[20:56] <mrkie> what is the best way to install virtualbox under ubuntu?
[20:57] <baizon> mrkie: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[20:57] <asyn> mrkie, you should download the .deb from their website, you want to most current version
[20:57] <b00s3d> hey
[20:57] <coma_> asyn, i think it not really font problem, some time ago i had same trouble and found solution... it about font rendering, try to google bout it
[20:57] <mrkie> asyn: yes, but will it get automatically updated each time a new release rolls out?
[20:58] <asyn> no, you'd have to update by downloading a new .deb
[20:58] <asyn> thats what I do
[20:58] <b00s3d> i have ran into difficulties with startx, i have a live cd and i would like to reinstall startx, now how do i do that from livecd?
[20:58] <asyn> thanks coma_ I'll try to google for it. any idea what your solution was?
[20:58] <mrkie> asyn: do you just open this deb from the gui?
[20:59] <asyn> yep
[20:59] <coma_> i not sure, but mb disable/enable cleartype or something like that
[20:59] <asyn> and be sure to download the latest guent additions
[20:59] <mrkie> asyn: and if you install a new deb of another version later, does it get updated automatically?
[21:00] <asyn> yes
[21:00] <mrkie> or do you purge it
[21:00] <asyn> no need to purge
[21:00] <asyn> getting the more recent versions is worth it to me
[21:00] <Bashing-om> b00s3d: "startx' is special use case in only some desktop environmnets . So don't from live . What is the problem and what release & desltop are you on ?
[21:00] <b00s3d> will try http://askubuntu.com/questions/21309/how-to-restore-xserver
[21:01] <OerHeks> on the virtualbox site 5.12, in our repos 5.10 and tested, i would stick to the repo
[21:01] <jim_the_tech_guy> Anyone having trouble on smb shares after this weekend?
[21:01] <mrkie> async: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.0.12/virtualbox-5.0_5.0.12-104815~Ubuntu~precise_i386.deb is not enough?
[21:02] <asyn> are you really using Precise?
[21:02] <asyn> mrkie?
[21:03] <lahaugen87> my smb works fine, jim
[21:03] <mrkie> asyn: no sorry, i need http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.0.12/virtualbox-5.0_5.0.12-104815~Ubuntu~trusty_amd64.deb (i have intel i7 haswell qcore 64 bit os)
[21:03] <jim_the_tech_guy> I can get windows computers to access the smb, but ubuntu wont accept credentials.
[21:03] <mrkie> i run Ubuntu 14.04 ("Trusty"
[21:05] <coma_> jim, how about workgroup?
[21:06] <jim_the_tech_guy> the workgroup is set fine, checked that first.  What I dont understand is that normally windows has issues interfacing. I dont know what would stop  ubuntu from interfacing with ubuntu.
[21:06] <fartface> Is there a way to specify a port with the ssh-copy-id command?
[21:07] <ferret_guy> Hey so I am trying to setup a bridged vpn as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN but I cannot for the life of me get my bridged adaptor to come up my interface config is here:http://paste.ubuntu.com/14570198/
[21:07] <Pici> fartface: with the -p option
[21:08] <fartface> Pici: ssh-copy-id, not just ssh
[21:08] <asyn> mrkie that looks good
[21:08] <asyn> be sure to also get the guest addition\s
[21:08] <axisys> back
[21:08] <akik> fartface: you can see the option with "ssh-copy-id -h"
[21:08] <asyn> makes a huge difference
[21:08] <fartface> akik: cheers
[21:08] <asyn> i can't take anyone named fartface seriously...
[21:09] <Pici> fartface: it should work, if it doesn't, try with ssh-copy-id -o Port=999 ,etc
[21:09] <fartface> Pici: Ah, I'll try that.  Just specifying -p didn't work.
[21:09] <fartface> asyn: That's fair. lol
[21:10] <fartface> Ah!  I found it!
[21:10] <fartface> What the hell, you need to specify all arguments within quotes and it works
[21:10] <fartface> aka ssh-copy-id "root@host -p 2991"
[21:11] <coma_> :DD
[21:11] <Bashing-om> axisys: Release upgade from 10.04 ... are you now on 12.04 ?
[21:13] <axisys> Bashing-om: no it failing like here http://dpaste.com/2H20M3V
[21:13] <Bashing-om> axisys: Look'n .
[21:14] <noise__> Hi
[21:14] <noise__> i have problem with wifi in Ubuntu
[21:15] <noise__> anyone can help me?
[21:15] <noise__> nobody?
[21:17] <Gallomimia> !ask
[21:17] <mrkie> asyn: sorry my network got broken, but what did you mean by "latest guent additions"?
[21:17] <axisys> Bashing-om: simplified the sources.list .. using ioria's example.. still failing same way..
[21:17] <Gallomimia> !wifi
[21:18] <axisys> Bashing-om: http://dpaste.com/0MW2J19
[21:19] <asyn> guest additions is a feature that gives your VM full access to the drivers of your host OS. it comes as an ISO that you mount inside the vm and install
[21:19] <mrkie> asyn: this post tells it comes with the install: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=45734
[21:21] <jnix> stupid question time! what does the * mean to the left of a ntp server in ntpq -p? i.e. *okr-wan-rtr-1.w <IP_ADDRESS>       3 u    2   64    1    2.151   -0.052   0.575
[21:21] <jnix> not seeing it in man page or i'm blind
[21:22] <Pici> jnix: I was just looking at a document about that recently, let me see if I can dig it up.
[21:22] <mrkie> asyn: thanks anyways
[21:22] <asyn> yeah virtualbox can auto download them now if you select install guest additions from the top menu
[21:22] <Bashing-om> axisys: Hummm ... new one on me .. Maybe a GPG thing ? Do you have the signing keys on your server ' sudo apt-key finger ' ?
[21:22] <asyn> but they are not pre-installed.
[21:22] <asyn> mrkie
[21:22] <jnix> Pici: cool, thanks
[21:23] <asyn> it will mount the image for you and initiate the install process, but you have to remember to actually do that from within your VM first
[21:23] <mrkie> asyn: i will search for the iso file
[21:24] <Pici> jnix: see http://doc.ntp.org/4.1.2/debug.htm see the section "Verifying Correct Operation" and the specific item about those symbols is on the line starting with "The tattletale symbol"
[21:24] <jnix> oh
[21:24] <jnix> that works
[21:24] <axisys> Bashing-om: http://dpaste.com/04T1KXJ
[21:25] <asyn> mrkie http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/
[21:26] <asyn> mrkie, i believe this is what you are looking for http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.0.12/VBoxGuestAdditions_5.0.12.iso
[21:26] <mrkie> asyn: i pointed that url already to my browser, thanks, can i install it later?
[21:26] <asyn> yes, first get Windows installed in Virtual Box
[21:26] <Bashing-om> axisys: Ouch .. looks sparse to me .. as in reference to mine (14.04 ) : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14570344/ .
[21:27] <mrkie> sure, what would you recomment as being the virtual hdd size? 200 gb? so it will biger when i add more?
[21:28] <maurice_> hallo , ik heb is een vraag. mijn prullenbak krijg ik niet geopend. Dus ik kan hem ook niet legen. Als ik via het programma bleach bit probeer , dan lukt het ook niet en loopt linux vast. weet iemand hier een oplossing voor? voorderest werkt linux perfect
[21:28] <Pici> !nl | maurice_
[21:28] <genii> !nl
[21:28] <axisys> Bashing-om: I checked with another lucid server here and same keys as my other one
[21:29] <asyn> mrkie, that is up to you. you can expand it later if you have to
[21:29] <mrkie> asyn: nice, so you can shrink it when you close the vm
[21:29] <mrkie> :)
[21:31] <mrkie> i will reboot to ubuntu now to install virtualbox, i will install mirc after that in the guest, before i used playonlinux that is wine and i installed mirc on it
[21:32] <Bashing-om> axisys: Sorry, In this instance I am at a loss to know how to proceed .
[21:32] <maurice_> niemand die iets weet?
[21:32] <k1l> !nl | maurice_
[21:32] <axisys> Bashing-om: I am guessing download the precise iso and mount and run the upgrade from there?
[21:33] <axisys> Bashing-om: based on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD
[21:33] <AceOfSpades> hi
[21:33] <AceOfSpades> :-D
[21:34] <Ahti> anyone help? I'm feeling pure rage having tried to get samba working for the past 3 hours
[21:35] <jerbot> I think I've found my network drivers, now i'm trying to add them to a minicd.  Is there an easy way to do this?
[21:35] <Ahti> nothing is working, no matter what security i set, with or without it sprouts the same error everytime with NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[21:35] <Bashing-om> axisys: That is a very viable option .. but hang loose here a bit ... we are in discussion on some means to get over the hump now .
[21:35] <Ahti> Windows client thinks the share is misspelled or something despite it showing up under network
[21:36] <axisys> Bashing-om: ok
[21:36] <Ahti> a royal PITA
[21:36] <awakino> #pyramid
[21:37] <mekhami> lrighnt boys
[21:37] <mekhami> alright*
[21:37] <mekhami> today is the day i win a game.
[21:37] <mekhami> !won
[21:37] <mekhami> heh
[21:37] <mekhami> neeevermind.
[21:37] <elky> mekhami: you're probably in the wrong channel
[21:37] <Pinkamena_D> how can I change default settings for all users?
[21:37] <gordonjcp> Pinkamena_D: default settings for what?
[21:38] <Pinkamena_D> for example: file manager
[21:38] <Bashing-om> axisys: EriC^^  came up with this "shaddy" work-around link : http://askubuntu.com/questions/425355/error-authenticating-some-packages-while-upgrade . What do you think ?
[21:39] <axisys> Bashing-om: let me check
[21:40] <axisys> Bashing-om: trying it now
[21:40] <axisys> so do the sudo do-release-upgrade only?
[21:41] <Bashing-om> axisys: There is also the thought that the mirror site is at fault .. to await and see if the mirror syncs up .
[21:41] <fartface> When I try to execute `chsh`, I get "You may not change the shell for 'developer'".  Is there a way around this if I've got sudo rights?
[21:41] <EriC^^> fartface: sudo chsh <user> -s /shell
[21:42] <fartface> Thanks!
[21:42] <EriC^^> could be chsh -s /shell <user>
[21:42] <EriC^^> no problem
[21:42] <lord4163> EriC^^: the second one ;)
[21:43] <EriC^^> thanks
[21:43] <Bashing-om> axisys: the tutorial - NOT substantiated - " create the file  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades.d/unauth.cfg  " .
[21:43] <axisys> Bashing-om: thats what I did
[21:43] <Guest610> alguem falando Portugues?
[21:43] <axisys> and running.. and looks to be upgrading
[21:43] <EriC^^> !pt | Guest610
[21:43] <axisys> Bashing-om: ^
[21:43] <Guest610> #ubuntu-br
[21:44] <axisys> Bashing-om: so far so good
[21:45] <Bashing-om> axisys: Then ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' see now if it completes . then ' sudo do-release-upgrade ' .
[21:45] <axisys> Bashing-om: yep.. looks to be working..
[21:46] <EriC^^> axisys: after you're done, install debsums and run a check on the whole system
[21:46] <axisys> EriC^^: k
[21:46] <EriC^^> that will verify the integrity of installed packages, as you've used a workaround to disable that feature
[21:46] <axisys> EriC^^: right.. i know how to install, but how do I run a check on whole system?
[21:46] <EriC^^> i think it's just sudo debsums
[21:47] <axisys> EriC^^: ok
[21:47] <bob2017> tj- around?
[21:47] <axisys> EriC^^: thnaks a lot
[21:47] <bob2017> or k1rk?
[21:47] <EriC^^> axisys: no problem
[21:48] <EriC^^> axisys: you can use sudo debsums | grep -v OK , to weed out all the OK 'd files it gives back, i think
[21:48] <Exagone313> Hi, I didn't installed a splashscreen, and I have a tty that appears a second before login screen, how to display a black screen instead? thanks for your help
[21:49] <Exagone313> by splash I mean plymouth
[21:49] <EriC^^> Exagone313: type cat /proc/cmdline | nc openterm.tk 9
[21:50] <Exagone313> hmm http://openterm.tk/ci4v
[21:50] <EriC^^> ok, you're missing the vt.handoff
[21:51] <EriC^^> that's odd
[21:51] <Exagone313> I started from minimal or server idk
[21:51] <EriC^^> type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc openterm.tk 9
[21:52] <Exagone313> done
[21:52] <EriC^^> ok, it seems to be there in the grub.cfg
[21:52] <EriC^^> as $vt_handoff
[21:54] <Exagone313> so?
[21:54] <EriC^^> ok i think i see what sets it, under 10_linux mid page
[21:54] <EriC^^> it looks at gfxpayload to see if keep is set there
[21:54] <EriC^^> type cat /etc/default/grub | nc openterm.tk 9
[21:56] <Exagone313> done
[21:56] <scrabcakes> has anyone else encountered a problem whereby dropbox claims your disk space is low, when in fact you have plenty?
[21:56] <EriC^^> Exagone313: ok, gfxpayload isn't set to keep there
[21:57] <EriC^^> Exagone313: you could try just adding vt.handoff=7 in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT after quiet splash
[21:57] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub
[21:57] <Exagone313> oh and something maybe useful
[21:57] <Exagone313> it run under virtualbox
[21:58] <Exagone313> I thought it wasn't grub related, so now if
[21:58] <EriC^^> as far as i know vt.handoff is what gives a nice transition while booting
[21:58] <Bashing-om> scrabcakes: Many times it is the boot partition lacking space, what returns ' df -h ; df -i ' ?
[21:59] <scrabcakes> Bashing-om: should I paste it all here?
[21:59] <fartface> I'm jumping into a server that I feel like has been a bit "screwed up", when I got to it, shell was set to `sh` instead of bash, but not on purpose, and I've been unable to login via key rather than simple using a password.  I've been able to change the shell to bash, but logging in via key still doesn't seem to work.  If I use `ssh-copy-id`, it'll ask me for the password, and copy the key over (or at least not output any errors), but then when I try to lo
[21:59] <fartface> gin via ssh, it'll still ask me for a password
[22:00] <Bashing-om> !paste | scrabcakes
[22:00] <fartface> I've checked /var/ssh/ssh_config against a server that *does* work with key based login, as well as /var/ssh/sshd_config, and they both look good, is there anything else I should be checking?
[22:00] <EriC^^> /var/ssh or /etc/ssh?
[22:01] <EriC^^> try ssh -vvv to give more info
[22:01] <scrabcakes> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14570612/
[22:01] <fartface> etc, sorry
[22:01] <fartface> One sec
[22:02] <Exagone313> EriC^^: thanks, working
[22:02] <EriC^^> Exagone313: no problem
[22:02] <fartface> Well that makes sense then... wtf.  Someone's set it to load keys from /var/www/.ssh/known_hosts
[22:02] <EriC^^> scrabcakes: also paste df -h
[22:02] <Bashing-om> scrabcakes: look'n .
[22:03] <scrabcakes> df -h -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14570628/
[22:05] <Bashing-om> scrabcakes: " /dev/sda1        13G   12G  357M  98% / " try " 'sudo apt-get autoremove' . Will also remove old kernels if able .
[22:06] <EriC^^> scrabcakes: also sudo apt-get autoclean
[22:07] <scrabcakes> no luck :/ also my dropbox only has 8mb of stuff on it
[22:08] <EriC^^> scrabcakes: type dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc openterm.tk 9
[22:08] <massimiliano> sera
[22:09] <scrabcakes> http://openterm.tk/ms0y/
[22:09] <EriC^^> scrabcakes: type uname -r | nc openterm.tk 9
[22:10] <scrabcakes> done, same link
[22:11] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.19.0-{33,37,39,41}-generic
[22:11] <EriC^^> does this kernel you're using work nicely with no problems?
[22:12] <scrabcakes> err it seems so, why's that?
[22:12] <EriC^^> to see if we should remove the one before it too
[22:13] <lerner> is there any ubuntu mmorpg?
[22:13] <Myrtti> "this is it"
[22:15] <scrabcakes> EriC^^: that's fixed it O.o how come?
[22:15] <Myrtti> lerner: assuming you are looking for a real game... well... Steam might have some, and the Software Centre.
[22:15] <EriC^^> scrabcakes: your root partition has very little space
[22:16] <EriC^^> scrabcakes: it's going to get full again soon
[22:16] <scrabcakes> EriC^^: but not 8mb little? Or is there some sort of reserved space that dropbox isn't allowed? And yes it's because I'm on a chromebook :P
[22:16] <EriC^^> scrabcakes: yeah the root partition has 5% reserved for root
[22:17] <scrabcakes> EriC^^: aha! cheers dude :)
[22:17] <EriC^^> :)
[22:23] <xalias> join #techiechan
[22:36] <jerbot> Finally found the right release, working great: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[22:36] <Zulu_Too> I just installed Xubuntu 9.10 and the desktop is bigger than my wide screen TV monitor. I tried to change the video settings so the desktop would fit correctly but all of the settings didn't work the way I wanted. So I set it to a different resolution and then the screen flickered and went into afther a while to the login screen. I tried Ctrl + Alt + F1  but that did not work. I am in root right now, not on this computer but is there
[22:36] <jerbot> Mac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5) alternate install image
[22:38] <carl_> I try to install qmail but I receive a message: "Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/", does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:42] <Chaser> !9.10 | Zulu_Too
[22:44] <Zulu_Too> Chaser is that the command?
[22:44] <k1l> Zulu_Too: really ubuntu 9.10 ?
[22:44] <Chaser> Zulu_Too: 9.10 is EOL'ed. Its too old.
[22:45] <k1l> Zulu_Too: ubuntu 9.10 is from 2009. load a actual ubuntu iso like 14.04 or 15.10
[22:45] <Zulu_Too> I wasted time with it. It seemed very fast as a light weight system but I tried LXDE but that is not being supported and doing apt-get's is miserable.
[22:46] <Zulu_Too> I tried Ubuntu 15.10 and it was a pig on resources.
[22:46] <k1l> Zulu_Too: you are doing it very wrong. ubuntu 9.10 is dead. dont use that anymore.
[22:46] <nicomachus> Zulu_Too: if you need something lightweight, use lubuntu
[22:47] <Zulu_Too> Is Lubuntu the same kernel as 15.10? and are the apt-gets up to date with the repositories?
[22:48] <k1l> Zulu_Too: you are mixing things
[22:48] <k1l> Zulu_Too: we have different desktops like unity, xfce, kde and lxde. that makes it to ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu,Lubuntu
[22:49] <k1l> Zulu_Too: then we have different version, like 14.04 or 15.10. but ubuntu14.04 and Xubuntu 1404 share the same kernel and packages. its just another arrangment of that packages.
[22:49] <Zulu_Too> Lots of the distros look nice on paper but fall short of their expations. I am trying to set up a light weight GUI Apache 2 server without seeing that the repositories are not available and 3rd party people that are not proven downloads.
[22:49] <k1l> Zulu_Too: if you want lightweight use Lubuntu. like Lubuntu 14.04 or Lubuntu 15.10
[22:50]  * AndChat464025 we are you
[22:50] <k1l> Zulu_Too: if you want a server, dont use a desktop at all. since the desktop will use ressources that are better used by the server
[22:50] <Zulu_Too> K11 will that work with older machines as well without the transit time lags?
[22:51] <k1l> Zulu_Too: you cant run 9.10 that has not seen any security updates since 2010. so a 10year old can hack that system.
[22:52] <Zulu_Too> What if I just use in the StartX mode in command prompt would you still recommend Lubuntu?
[22:52] <k1l> Zulu_Too: dont use startx on ubuntu
[22:52] <Zulu_Too> Oh! back to square one. There are so many distros.
[22:53] <k1l> Zulu_Too: but yes, lubuntu is made lightweight for slow and old hardware. but again: if you want to run a server, run a server.
[22:53] <Zulu_Too> I was thinking of FreeBSD.
[22:53] <k1l> well, freebsd is not in the scope of this channel.
[22:54] <Zulu_Too> K11 so the lubuntu is a good thing but what about security? I really don't worry that much about security because Linux based systems are not that vulnerable to Windows systems.
[22:55] <Zulu_Too> I will give lubuntu a try. Nothing to lose. I have tons of computers here.
[22:55] <k1l> Zulu_Too: that is wrong. we have enough hacked systems. and a lot of linux servers are among them and sending spam. the reason is users dont use secure methods or dont have set up the server properly
[22:55] <RealKillaz> Hi there ubuntu gents
[22:56] <reese_> hi
[22:56] <k1l> Zulu_Too: lubuntu receives the same security patches as ubuntu does. but only if they still have support, which 9.10 doesnt: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[22:56] <Zulu_Too> K11 that is where a firewall comes in and iptables.
[22:57] <k1l> Zulu_Too: doesnt help you
[22:58] <Zulu_Too> You mentioned 14.04 and 15.10 is better then?
[22:58] <RealKillaz> I have a problem with the installation of Ubuntu 14.04. Getting the following error: the ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI (2,0,0) (sda) failed
[22:58] <k1l> Zulu_Too: 14.04 or 15.10 is your only choice.
[22:58] <RealKillaz> During installation...
[22:58] <RealKillaz> We've checked the DVD and everything looks just fine
[22:58] <Zulu_Too> Ok thanks. I will experiment with them then. Lightweight is the way to go to give the CPU a break.
[22:59] <RealKillaz> I've googled and al threads indicates issues with HD...
[22:59] <nicomachus> Zulu_Too: this is a server, right? does it have a monitor or any sort of display at all?
[22:59] <RealKillaz> can we conclude that indeed... or are there other possibilities?
[22:59] <nicomachus> RealKillaz: you can do a smart check and verify that.
[22:59] <Quantos> So check the HDD health with the utility from the HDD manufacturer RealKillaz
[22:59] <Zulu_Too> K11 about the repositories with the above any comments?
[23:00] <k1l> Zulu_Too: you dont need a desktop on a server. you can manage the server with ssh.
[23:00] <DirtyCajun> dude. i hate how textbooks.... spend 2 chapters explaining how thing a and thing b work... just to tell you in chapter 3 that they are crap and old and you ened to use thing c. My Linux textbook just told me how to use tar... and gzip... for 2 chapters... then said its old and everyone uses .rar and .7z ect that do both at once.
[23:02] <Bashing-om> DirtyCajun: Millions of programmers pour over the code, linux is a fast moving target .
[23:02] <k1l> DirtyCajun: .tar and gzip are still used.
[23:02] <RealKillaz> nicomachus, How can I do that.. and is it possible to run that with the OS running?
[23:03] <RealKillaz> nicomachus, is that the smartcl tool?
[23:03] <Zulu_Too> K11 I have used SSH from a Windows box to Ubuntu years ago. You bring back memories. Good point. :)
[23:03] <dschense> anybody here who knows how to get a old Epson AL-C1100 printer running with ubuntu 15.10 over the network ?
[23:03] <nicomachus> !smart | RealKillaz
[23:03] <Zulu_Too> K11 you just made my day. That is what I will consider now.
[23:04] <RealKillaz> Quantos, Yes, I;m trying to figure this out with the OS running since we have an engineer onsite which is on the go to run a live cd...
[23:04] <nicomachus> RealKillaz: yes you can do it with the OS running.
[23:05] <Quantos> I'm going to step back RealKillaz, I don't think I can safely advise you on a running server
[23:05] <Zulu_Too> K11 I was concerned about the sudo apt-get distributions or repositories as well. Some of the stuff that is outdated should be taken off of the internet I suppose, but, who am I to say that.
[23:06] <k1l> Zulu_Too: sorry, but you just installed a 9.10 that is from 2009.
[23:06] <nicomachus> lol
[23:06] <TheEnderCreeper0> hey
[23:06] <TheEnderCreeper0> i ment hi
[23:06] <Zulu_Too> K11, that is just OK with me. I am going to trash the CD disk and download what you suggested. Thanks for the feedback.
[23:07] <TheEnderCreeper0> hello i need help
[23:07] <RealKillaz> nicomachus, ok thank you I will check that tool
[23:07] <reese_> How do you correctly ping a server using it's ip?
[23:07] <Zulu_Too> It is not a total loss when you learn a valuable lesson K11.
[23:07] <nicomachus> ping <ip>
[23:07] <k1l> reese_: "ping ip"
[23:07] <k1l> stop it with ctrl+c
[23:08] <TheEnderCreeper0> ya
[23:08] <TheEnderCreeper0> stop ctrl+c
[23:08] <TheEnderCreeper0> question
[23:09] <TheEnderCreeper0> hello
[23:09] <k1l> TheEnderCreeper0: stop that
[23:09] <TheEnderCreeper0> question
[23:09] <TheEnderCreeper0> ok
[23:09] <TheEnderCreeper0> ok
[23:09] <Zulu_Too> K11, thanks a lot for the conversation and I am right back to the drawing board. I will let you know what happens. Thanks again friend. :)
[23:10] <RealKillaz> nicomachus, OK one more question maybe you can point me into correct direction:
[23:11] <RealKillaz> nicomachus, I'm getting this message: Smartctl open device: /dev/sda failed: DELL or MegaRaid controller, please try adding '-d megaraid,N'
[23:11] <RealKillaz> nicomachus, any idea?
[23:17] <nicomachus> RealKillaz: I'm not familiar with raid setups, but did you try adding -d megaraid,N as suggested...?
[23:20] <kexibq> does anyone have an idea why my opengl/powermizer settings reset every time I boot? (15.10, gnome)
[23:20] <matthewp2> ya
[23:23] <d3jake> Odd question: I wasn't sure how to search for it. How do I make linux/lxde auto highlight the contents of a text box when I click in it, when it wasn't previously selected?
[23:23] <bob2017> tj-?
[23:23] <reese_> if only i knew
[23:24] <nicomachus> bob2017: better of just asking your question instead of waiting around for a specific user
[23:24] <bob2017> nicomachus: its been a whole saga for like a week
[23:24] <jerbot> Okay, so I have lubuntu 14 trusty tahr desktop installed, but now i'm booting to a black screen with nothing but a cursor.  The last message I see is: "ERROR: Firmware file "b43-open/ucode5.fw" not found...."  So, I downloaded the driver.  How can I install the driver from USB before the OS loads?
[23:24] <bob2017> nicomachus: at this point, my mac with 2 video cards, one ati and one nvidia, and three monitors, is detecting two of three monitors, and showing no video on any
[23:24] <mephux> can anyone recommend a good linux laptop.. backlit keyboard, at least 16gb ram.. not super ugly.
[23:24] <nicomachus> bob2017: then simplify it as best possible, or wait until you see their name in the userlist
[23:25] <reese_> jerbot
[23:25] <welovfree> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 on vmware and it's a little bit slow, and I'm wondering what are the best settings to make run smoothly?
[23:25] <reese_> try reinstalling the os completely
[23:25] <k1l> no
[23:25] <xangua> mephux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
[23:26] <reese_> or run a live os from usb at biod
[23:26] <matthewp2> ya
[23:26] <reese_> bios*
[23:26] <k1l> welovfree: you could see if you cangive more ressources to the vm.
[23:26] <welovfree> I got 4GB or RAM, up to 16 cores
[23:26] <reese_> dang 16 cores and only 4gb of ram?
[23:27] <nicomachus> does vmware require guest additions and 3D video enabling like vbox does?
[23:27] <reese_> nico it shouldn't
[23:27] <matthewp2> unless u want it to
[23:27] <welovfree> how many cores should I give to the vm?
[23:28] <k1l> welovfree: could be a slow hdd slowing it down
[23:28] <matthewp2> try 2 or 4 or even 8 if u want to get a bift bigger
[23:28] <reese_> if you're doing 4gb proabbly maybe like 2 or 3
[23:28] <reese_> you dont want to inbalance it
[23:29] <Brisr> I'm trying to upgrade from 14.4 to vivid. Packages are broken, compiz implicated: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1404783
[23:29] <Brisr> sudo apt-get -f install
[23:29] <Brisr> Reading package lists... Done
[23:29] <Brisr> Building dependency tree
[23:29] <Brisr> Reading state information... Done
[23:29] <Brisr> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 2185 not to upgrade.
[23:29] <Brisr> W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
[23:29] <Brisr> W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
[23:29] <Brisr> W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
[23:29] <Brisr> W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
[23:29] <Brisr> W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
[23:29] <Brisr> W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
[23:29] <Brisr> W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
[23:29] <Brisr> W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
[23:30] <welovfree> reese_, 50% of ram would be enough right?
[23:30] <matthewp2> ya
[23:30] <reese_> definately
[23:30] <reese_> well depends what is 100%
[23:30] <reese_> 4gb?
[23:30] <welovfree> yes
[23:30] <reese_> um 2gb
[23:31] <reese_> put 2 cores wit that
[23:31] <reese_> with*
[23:31] <welovfree> what if i am using 4 cores
[23:31] <reese_> for the vm or the pc?
[23:31] <reese_> if its for the vm it should be ok
[23:32] <welovfree> ok
[23:33] <welovfree> I don't know why the wifi is working very good in the vm than in the host?
[23:33] <welovfree> pages are loading faster
[23:33] <jerbot> I need to run a live OS?  I can't just press a key to get into a terminal before the desktop loads and install the driver from a terminal?
[23:33] <welovfree> reese_, what do you think?
[23:35] <reese_> hmm
[23:36] <reese_> vms are never very good in the vms because you're already using it in your main computer
[23:36] <reese_> if you are using vmware it usually shows that his has an adapter in the wifi settings
[23:36] <reese_> of your main computer i mean
[23:37] <matthewp2> hello
[23:37] <matthewp2> hello
[23:37] <jerbot> reese_: Do I need to get a special kind of livecd for powerpc?
[23:37] <reese_> some vm hosts have it to were you can edit a bandswith
[23:37] <matthewp2> ok the irc works
[23:37] <reese_> for power pc?
[23:37] <reese_> you should just be able to use a usb
[23:37] <welovfree> reese_, I didn't edit a single thing
[23:37] <k1l> jerbot: you need the ppc versions
[23:37] <matthewp2> srly u dont know wht power pc is ^O^
[23:37] <k1l> reese_: please dont just guess answers.
[23:38] <reese_> Did you just install the Os on the vm?
[23:38] <welovfree> reese_, yes
[23:38] <matthewp2> u can use real usbs in vmware/etc
[23:38] <jerbot> USB isn't bootable with the powerbook g4.  So, I have a desktop cd. those work as livecd's, right?
[23:38] <reese_> ooohhh
[23:39] <reese_> is it just a plain OS download?
[23:39] <k1l> jerbot: the .iso work on usb or cd/dvd. but you need the ppc versions for your (very old) apple hardware
[23:39] <matthewp2> no
[23:39] <k1l> !ppc | jerbot
[23:39] <RealKillaz> nicomachus, too bad: SMART support is:     Unavailable - device lacks SMART capability.
[23:39] <matthewp2> u need a software to setup iso for media so u can install it using real usb in vmware/etc softwareure using
[23:39] <matthewp2> windwos 10
[23:40] <nicomachus> RealKillaz: O_o, old hdd?
[23:40] <reese_> yeah
[23:40] <jerbot> the iso files work, but the computer won't recognize the usb as a bootable option
[23:40] <jerbot> i'm using a cd. :P
[23:40] <matthewp2> can u upload a windows 10 iso on mediafire or google druve or etc
[23:40] <jerbot> yeah, I got the PPC release of 14.04 desktop.  Does that work as a livecd?
[23:41] <matthewp2> and publish here
[23:41] <k1l> jerbot: yes
[23:41] <matthewp2> it should work
[23:41] <k1l> matthewp2: ##windows for windows issues please
[23:41] <reese_> welov you still there?
[23:41] <welovfree> reese_, yeah
[23:41] <matthewp2> k
[23:42] <matthewp2> wht site
[23:42] <jerbot> so i'm assuming i just type cli-powerpc not cli-freepowerpc?
[23:42] <jerbot> oh dude, there's a -powerpc install option?  I didn't know that. *doh*
[23:42] <reese_> welov it's going to be slow because of the traffic
[23:42] <jerbot> I can just run the installer that way again. ttyz in an hour?
[23:42] <reese_> with it using your pc internet span
[23:42] <maurice_> what is the best burning program on linux?
[23:43] <k1l> jerbot: please see the wiki sites for g4 specific stuff. that is not usual hardware and you need manual settings most times
[23:43] <nicomachus> maurice_: for burning what?
[23:43] <matthewp2> hmm
[23:43] <maurice_> for linux mint 17.3
[23:43] <ferret_guy> Hey is there anyone here that can help me troubleshoot an openvpn problem?
[23:43] <welovfree> reese_, do you mean when I'm running the vm? the traffic gets busy or what?
[23:43] <matthewp2> u mean the best iso bunner
[23:43] <nicomachus> maurice_: startup disk creator
[23:43] <k1l> !mint | maurice_
[23:43] <matthewp2> ya
[23:43] <maurice_> oke thanks
[23:43] <jerbot> what does the -free- option do?
[23:43] <k1l> maurice_: please use that irc channels that are made autostart in your irc client. this is #ubuntu support
[23:44] <reese_> yeah welov when you are on the internet with your vm, it is using the internet that your pc is recieving
[23:44] <reese_> well some of it
[23:44] <nicomachus> k1l: he wants to create a mint USB from ubuntu.
[23:44] <jerbot> thanks for the help so far, btw. long project
[23:44] <reese_> so thats why its not as fast.
[23:44] <Satyameva> maurice_: bashbrun all CLI but easy to use and no gui
[23:45] <maurice_> thanks
[23:49] <matthewp2> hey
[23:50] <matthewp2> i need help with android emulators in ubuntu
[23:50] <matthewp2> i need help with setting up an android emulator on ubuntu
[23:51] <reese_> what do you need help with?
[23:51] <matthewp2> seting up android on ubuntu
[23:52] <reese_> no i mean like what do you need help with
[23:52] <reese_> like what are you having trouble doing?
[23:52] <matthewp2> i need help with setting up an android emulator as in how do i install one
[23:52] <reese_> do you already have the disc image?
[23:52] <matthewp2> idk which one i can install on my rasppberry pi 2 model b running ubuntu mate
[23:53] <reese_> do you have the file?
[23:53] <matthewp2> i was trying to get an android emulator through apt-get cmd
[23:53] <k1l> try the android sdk
[23:53] <matthewp2> idk how
[23:54] <reese_> so what comes up with you do the command?
[23:54] <k1l> matthewp2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/118903/what-android-emulators-are-available
[23:54] <matthewp2> thx
[23:54] <reese_> sigh
[23:54] <welovfree> matthewp2, you can use Remix OS it's better than an emulator, it's actually an OS
[23:54] <reese_> yeah
[23:55] <reese_> you cna also do a parallel
[23:55] <matthewp2> hey
[23:55] <matthewp2> umm how i get android sdk from site
[23:55] <reese_> download or command
[23:55] <k1l> matthewp2: read the link
[23:55] <welovfree> they have it in alpha version right now
[23:55] <matthewp2> how u do it with cmds
[23:56] <matthewp2> wht package called
[23:56] <reese_> i gtg for now bye
[23:56] <k1l> matthewp2: there is no package to install.
[23:56] <matthewp2> k
[23:56] <matthewp2> wht do to get the android sdk
[23:57] <K1rk> bob2017 sup
[23:57] <matthewp2> umm
[23:57] <k1l> matthewp2: if you ask one more time while not even reading the answeres give, you will need to stay out again.
[23:58] <k1l> *given
[23:58] <matthewp2> ok
[23:59] <bob2017> k1rk!


[01:06] <lubot2> Kum Thong Mak was added by: Kum Thong Mak
 Welcome!
 This Week in Lubuntu Development #1 - https://lubuntu.me/this-week-in-lubuntu-development-1/
[18:48] <lubot2> * acheronuk waits to see a 'This week in...... "Writing 'This week in...' blog posts"'
 Hahahahahahahaha
 Inception!
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3924.mp4
 ❤
 Then... Lubuntu will continue under LXDE on the next LTS?
 @Wolfenprey, For 18.04, yes.
 @tsimonq2, 😢
 😡
 Not a bad move i guess
 Stability
 yep
 some distros ships with lxqt, but i think it need more polish
 @Wolfenprey, LXQt has been perfectly stable and reliable for me.
 I've used it for the past year with little to no problems.
 A lot of time passed from the last time i tested LXQT
 for sure its better now
[19:52] <lynorian> I find it usable if you can get the default settings right I am using it right now
 Exactly.
[21:30] <wxl> @tsimonq2: re the newsletter we're not the first flavor in a decade to switch our graphical *BROWSER* :)
[21:31] <tsimonq2> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[21:31] <tsimonq2> Why did I say browser?
[21:31] <tsimonq2> lol
[21:31] <tsimonq2> This is why I like having it on the blog, so I can update it. :P
[23:56] <simonizor[m]> This is dumb:  It will stay unofficially supported, and the packages will only be supported in the Ubuntu archive for nine months after the release. After that, you need to update to 18.10 to recieve the latest updates.
[23:56] <simonizor[m]> You might as well just install Ubuntu Server and install LXQt from there
[23:57] <wxl> that's no more supported
[23:57] <simonizor[m]> You're gonna pull all of the LXQt packages from the repos in 9 months?
[23:58] <simonizor[m]> If not, it'll work fine
[23:58] <wxl> no
[23:58] <wxl> they just won't be supported beyond 9 months
[23:58] <wxl> which will be true no matter what flavour of ubuntu you start from
[23:59] <simonizor[m]> Well, they already work fine as is in 18.04 daily... I dunno why you'd even put out a release at that point lol


[16:07] <Eickmeyer> bdrung: So... audacity... s390x... yikes.
[16:18] <arraybolt3[m]> Eickmeyer: Audacity on s390x?!?!?!?! /me thinks maybe that architecture shouldn't be an Audacity build target, since I don't think those things even have GUIs
[16:19] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3[m]: Debian still wants it to build there if possible.
[16:20] <Eickmeyer> On Ubuntu, we don't care as much, but Debian is a bit more pedantic about that sort of thing.
[16:20] <Eickmeyer> Especially if it built there before.
[16:22] <arraybolt3[m]> :(
[16:23] <arraybolt3[m]> I guess it will come in handy the fateful day that Audacity has a headless mode, or a gamer and hardware developer gets their hands on an IBM mainframe.
[16:44] <JanC> you can run X11 on s390x, don't need a creen attached to it...
[16:44] <JanC> *screen*
[16:54] <tumbleweed> s390x is the only big-endian arch left, so it gets to catch all the endian bugs
[17:17] <tsimonq2> vorlon: Heya, as TIL for dput I just wanted to draw your attention to bug 1991569 whenever you're able to take a look. Thanks.
[17:33] <vorlon> tsimonq2: I don't think TIL has much bearing here
[17:33] <tsimonq2> fair enough :)
[18:51] <utkarsh2102> !dmb-ping
[18:52] <utkarsh2102> Brian and Lukasz are out
[18:52] <utkarsh2102> are we still quorate?
[18:52] <rbasak> o/
[18:52] <teward> utkarsh2102: stuck in call with ceo and my boss at work - i'm jnavailable at this time
[18:52] <teward> ceo, my boss, and a partner.  unavailable.  *
[18:52] <utkarsh2102> teward: ok, thanks for letting us know! \o
[18:53] <seb128> utkarsh2102, I'm around
[18:53] <utkarsh2102> nice, kanashiro?
[18:53] <kanashiro[m]> o/
[18:54] <utkarsh2102> nice, 4 of us
[20:05] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, so I just watched the DMB meeting, and watching the versioning stuff raised a question. Take the hypothetical example of coffegrinder 1.2.3-4ubuntu1 being bugfixed in Kinetic, Jammy, and Focal. I know that the version in Focal will be 1.2.3-4ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>, and the version in Jammy will be 1.2.3-4ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>... but what happens in Kinetic? 1.2.3-4ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>? 1.2.3-4ubuntu2? Or 1.2.3-4ubuntu1.1? I think the second one
[20:05] <arraybolt3[m]> is right.
[20:05] <arraybolt3[m]> (This is assuming Kinetic is still in development, but knowing what will happen after it is released would also be handy.)
[20:06] <arraybolt3[m]> If there's a link to a doc that explains it, that would be best so I can refer to it later - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation doesn't seem to give me the info I'm looking for.
[20:07] <arraybolt3[m]> (Heh, I misspelled coffeegrinder, missing an e. Blah.)
[20:09] <rbasak> arraybolt3[m]: nothing special for Kinetic - just follow the normal pattern. So it'd probably be 1.2.3-4ubuntu2. If after release, then it's the same as the SRU pattern because it'd be an SRU.
[20:10] <arraybolt3[m]> Makes sense, I just don't know for sure what "the normal pattern" is. I think it's 1.2.3-4 when synced from Debian, 1.2.3-4ubuntu1 for an upload in devel, then 1.2.3-4ubuntu2, etc. Is that right?
[20:10] <rbasak> Right! :)
[20:11] <arraybolt3[m]> Thanks :) (May as well do all the "cheating" now while I'm not the one getting grilled by the DMB, right?)
[20:11] <arraybolt3[m]> (Then I'll be ready when I am getting grilled.)
[20:11] <rbasak> That sounds like learning rather than cheating :)
[20:12] <arraybolt3[m]> True. :P
[20:12] <rbasak> It's not possible to cover everything in a DMB meeting. All I do is look at an application's specifics and try to intelligently probe to see if I'm satisfied.
[20:13] <rbasak> Often that means similar questions!
[20:13] <arraybolt3[m]> Makes sense. But this is the second time I've watched versioning eat someone's application, so I figure I may as well prep well in advance.
[20:14] <arraybolt3[m]> (It's really tricky to figure out.)
[20:14] <rbasak> Unfortunately there's a lot of arcanity in Ubuntu development :-/
[20:15] <rbasak> I'm trying to make that better with git-ubuntu. There's code that works out the correct SRU version for you, for example, and I want to add automatic linting and CI to flag it up. Then, when everyone's using that, it shouldn't need to be necessary knowledge any more. Because having to know this kind of thing sucks :-/
[20:15] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh wow, that sounds handy.
[22:42] <jbicha> yeah, it's not cheating. The meetings are intentionally public 😉
[22:43] <arraybolt3[m]> jbicha: I know, I was making a joke. Any way to learn this stuff is good. It's not a competition, we just want to make sure everyone knows what they're doing before they break things.