[00:43] <SuperEddy> !ops | noooo waaaaa kline me waaaaaa
[08:34] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:34] <Mikaela> hi
[12:41] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[12:45] <susundberg> Hi
[12:45] <susundberg> Hey, i made something probably stupid on my machine: upgrade existing 14.04 to utopic
[12:45] <susundberg> Now during the update i hit : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1394391
[12:48] <susundberg> That is, apt-get -f install tries to install 'kde-window-manager-common' that tries to overwrite file from 'kde-workspace-data' that cannot be removed due dependency to 'kde-workspace-bin'
[12:48] <susundberg> any suggestions ?
[12:49] <susundberg> (other than take backups and do fresh install ;)
[12:51] <BluesKaj_> susundberg, did you update and upgrade 14.04 before upgrading to 14.10
[12:51] <BluesKaj_> ?
[12:52] <susundberg> Umm, no i think this fresh 14.04
[12:53] <susundberg> (-> i ended up doing --force-overwite -- seems to continue, there is rather lots of files conflicting, i guess other package should be going away .. )
[12:54] <BluesKaj_> still needs updating and dist upgrading if it's from an iso
[12:54] <susundberg> Oh, sorry i misunderstood your question, no -- actually not sure was it now up to date
[12:55] <susundberg> i guess there is no going back at this point ..
[12:55] <BluesKaj_> pobly not
[12:56] <BluesKaj_> unless you have  / and /home partitions
[13:03] <BluesKaj_> susundberg, I highly recommend separate / and /home partitions. If something goes wrong one can always just reinstall the OS to / and leave the /home partition untouched which contains your data and config files
[13:05] <susundberg> Ya, i agree. Or rather have two '/' so you can always go back to old
[13:05] <susundberg> but unfortunately this laptop does not have such luxyry -- not sure why, i guess it was suposed to be temp-installatioin
[13:05] <BluesKaj_> use the manual partitioning during the inatallation and reformat / and just make sure you choose the previous /home mountpoint as /home and ext4 or whatever you use3d previously
[13:05] <BluesKaj_> ok
[13:06] <susundberg> Thanks for the tips anyway :)
[13:09] <BluesKaj_> susundberg, try running, sudo dpkg --configure -a , then the -f install command
[13:12] <susundberg> I got it running fine with --force-overwrite on the specific package and then followed with apt-get -f install
[13:40] <BluesKaj_> susundberg, good
[13:42] <BluesKaj_> susundberg, btw this chat is for 15.04 support, the regular ubuntu chat is for all others


[08:13] <YoBoY> bonjour
[08:16] <valorie> bonjour, mon ami
[08:21] <YoBoY> how are you valorie ? and how are your dad ?
[08:22] <valorie> I'm good, Google CodeIn is starting as we speak
[08:22] <valorie> I'm an admin for KDE
[08:22] <valorie> my dad's body is healing, and his mind is coming along a bit behind that
[08:23] <valorie> thanks for asking!
[08:25] <YoBoY> :)
[08:56] <akgraner> valorie, thank you - and dang you are super busy lately...
[08:56] <valorie> tell me about it
[08:56] <akgraner> go you!
[08:56] <valorie> my dad is driving me nuts, so the rest of it is fun in contrast
[08:57] <valorie> lol
[09:03] <akgraner> lol
[09:03] <akgraner> you rock!
[09:24] <valorie> as do you, and you know it!
[09:24] <valorie> onstage and off
[11:10] <SilverLion> hi there


[00:11] <bazhang> has toba been an issue interfering/giving bad advice
[00:15] <genii> I haven't noticed them before now. Seems like mostly noise at the moment and nothing serious
[00:18] <bazhang> dylan seems to think compiling with lubuntu will fix his wifi issues
[00:19] <bazhang> he supposedly fresh installed xubuntu just a few hours earlier, now suddenly its lubuntu
[00:19] <genii> I came in somewhere midpoint and decided not to go anywhere near it after a minute or so
[00:19] <bazhang> he wants to compile kernel modules for broadcom 43xx
[00:20] <genii> Yeah, good luck with that
[00:20] <bazhang> crossposting multiple channels, lots of 2 minute ask n helloooo?
[00:26] <bazhang> he cannot use an ethernet because its lubuntu or something
[00:27] <bazhang> I sincerely wonder how he ever got any ubuntu on there\
[00:27] <Unit193> genii: I have been paying no attention to that, hopefully you and wxl have it covered (both have OPs there.)
[00:27] <Unit193> And, ethernet of course works just like it does in Ubuntu.
[00:28] <genii> Unit193: wxl seems to be taking care of it
[00:42] <bazhang> Unit193, he's been told that multiple times
[00:43] <bazhang> and as always plods forward without listening to any advice
[02:15] <Unit193> < llldino> Dylan____, Mint is very similar to Ubuntu, just don't tell anyone you're using it :D
[02:17] <genii> Mint has become to #ubuntu what Ubuntu was to #debian
[02:18] <bazhang> yep
[02:18] <Unit193> So lets hope in a few years Mint actually becomes useful to upstream Ubuntu/Debian.
[02:19] <bazhang> the threats used to always be 'Im going back to windows'
[02:23] <genii> wah is <reply> Go back to Windows or OSX or any other operating system of your choosing if you like. But please refrain from announcing it as an ultimatum to receiving assistance with your Ubuntu.
[02:24] <bazhang> hah
[02:24] <bazhang> just bring back 'don't work' and 'enter'
[02:25] <Unit193> And !language.
[02:25] <bazhang> the original one, yeah
[02:33] <genii> Sometimes I think all the humour has been drained out of the factoids
[02:41] <bazhang> the jussi-era was when that happened
[02:41] <bazhang> there used to be factoids for the regulars in -ot
[02:42] <bazhang> amaranth really got riled by the changes in his
[02:42]  * genii sips and contemplates
[02:42] <bazhang> wobbylwu makes no(n)sense!
[02:43] <bazhang> `seeker had a really mean one, that jussi liked to keep fixing back
[02:44] <genii> Wow, I couldn't remember how long I'd been on Freenode, nickserv info tells me that Dec 14 2016 will be 10 years
[02:45] <genii> Jussi is actually the one that convinced me to try being an op for #kubuntu
[02:45] <genii> I think 2008-ish
[02:46] <bazhang> the days of jucato
[02:46] <genii> Heh yes
[03:45] <rww> Myrtti: I was clearing out email the other day. Turns out the largest email in my inbox was large because it was Flannel emailing me the automatix .deb files
[03:46] <rww> i think i got bored one day and wanted to try to run them in modernbuntu? idk
[06:23] <Flannel> No, I think we were comparing automatix with ultimate edition or something?
[06:23] <Flannel> Maybe that was a different time.
[06:47] <gav> Are any ops active at the moment? There is a racist troll in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:49] <gav> Thanks!
[17:21] <cartwright> mmm
[17:21] <cartwright> I'll bbl
[17:22] <Pici> k
 How much envirnonment has Ubuntu?
[17:36] <genii> ...
[17:36] <bazhang> he meant flavours
[17:37] <genii> Ah
[17:37] <bazhang> desktop environments I guess
[19:00] <phunyguy> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic phteven This is stevendale... with yet a new nick and nickserv account... has been talked to again.
[19:08] <ilhami> k1l_, dude
[19:11] <rww> he's afk 5 hours
[19:11] <ilhami> rww, can you let me in the Ubuntu Touch channel? I have some questions about it..
[19:12] <rww> nope, I don't have access there. op list is at /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-touch list
[19:13] <ilhami> thanks :)
[19:13] <rww> looks like popey's only idle about 6 minutes, would be one option
[19:13] <ilhami> will try popey.
[19:14] <popey> hm?
[19:14] <ilhami> can you unban me? k1l_ unbanned me only because I was unbanned in #ubuntu .. I didn't do anything wrong in #ubuntu-touch
[19:14] <ilhami> I want to help with the development of apps etc.
[19:15] <ilhami> It looks very promising. Just saw a video on youtube. :P I liked it
[19:15] <popey> @login
[19:15] <popey> @btlogin
[19:16] <popey> You have collected a fair number of bans over the last year
[19:16] <ilhami> popey, not in #ubuntu-touch
[19:16] <ilhami> in #ubuntu yes.
[19:16] <ilhami> he only banned me in #ubuntu-touch because he banned me in #ubuntu
[19:16] <ilhami> I want to help with the development dude.. I have questions.
[19:17] <popey> App development actually happens in #ubuntu-app-devel
[19:17] <ilhami> oh well :P I also want to be able to discuss other stuff about Ubuntu Touch since it looks promising.. if I had known I would have bought Ubuntu Phone over Windows phone
[19:18] <popey> Why were you previously banned?
[19:18] <ilhami> Windows Phone is so bad!.. Windows 10 Mobile doesn't look that good at all.
[19:18] <ilhami> Because I was a bit annoying (according to him)
[19:18] <ilhami> (according to him) I was disrespectful to an OP.
[19:19] <ilhami> in #ubuntu
[19:19] <ilhami> we are talking about two different channels.
[19:33] <ilhami> bazhang_, why are you in here with two nicks?
[19:35] <rww> connection issues probably
[19:35] <Unit193> rww: Netsplit, actually.
[19:36] <rww> true
[19:36] <rww> figured it wasn't because only him, but... IdleOne- so yes
[19:37] <ilhami> anyway.. I am in #ubuntu-app-devel so please don't ban me in there... I am leaving this channel. bye
[20:35] <an3k> excellent. I hope I can submit a complaint about a rude and slightly false-advise giving op of #ubuntu
[20:35] <ikonia> an3k: I've forwarded you to this channel, as you're not helping people,
[20:35] <ikonia> if you can calm down and try to actually work with the people asking for help, I'm sure it will be fine
[20:36] <an3k> ikonia I WAS HELPING HIM
[20:36] <ikonia> he seemed pretty lost
[20:36] <an3k> but you just overtook the whole talk
[20:36] <ikonia> trying to run 3 VM's and other such things, when all he wanted was a media server
[20:36] <ikonia> and then you start saying people are giving him false information
[20:36] <an3k> Yeah and you advise him owncloud which is NOT a media server
[20:36] <an3k> you gave him false information
[20:36] <ikonia> which to be honest - isn't case, it comes across as you just didn't like it so wanted to bad mouth him
[20:36] <ikonia> no I didn't
[20:37] <ikonia> if you can give me an example of this false informaiton as I asked earlier, that would be great
[20:37] <an3k> yeah, useing md1 as a backup for md0 ... stupid as hell because that's not a backup
[20:37] <ikonia> no-one said that
[20:38] <an3k> oh, you did :)
[20:38] <ikonia> no, I didn't
[20:38] <an3k> [21:28:38] <an3k> >>>>>>>> [21:26:30] <ikonia> jc: if you created a mirrored pair with the 2x1TB disks you would have a good starting point and a fair bit of space, once you add the additoinal disks, again as a mirrored pair you can either grow that space, or use it for backup space, or variations between the 2 sets of mirrors <<<<<<<<<
[20:38] <ikonia> and using different raid array meta devices is a reasonable disk for a home server, which is what he's running, wiht some core config file backs
[20:38] <ikonia> yes, if you read you'll see I'm giving him a range of options
[20:39] <ikonia> he can go anywhere between option a - f
[20:39] <an3k> what the fuck is this -> you can either grow that space, or use it for backup space,
[20:39] <ikonia> finding a ground that suits his needs
[20:39] <ikonia> an option
[20:39] <ikonia> and please don't swear
[20:39] <an3k> sorry thats pure bu**sh**
[20:39] <ikonia> in what way ?
[20:40] <an3k> to be very honest I rather would do all the search and configuring all myself than getting support from you. Instead of a short "do this or that" you cause a HUGE channel spamming talk and kind of force the user to use what you advise.
[20:40] <ikonia> that wasn't what I asked
[20:40] <ikonia> I asked in what way is my comment "bull shit"
[20:40] <an3k> he wanted to run windows or for example DS audio and instead of just accepting that ...
[20:41] <ikonia> he didn't want to run windows
[20:41] <ikonia> he wanted an audio service - and thought windows was the only way due to a guide
[20:41] <ikonia> in the same way he wanted to run a NAS vm to share his disk, because he didn't realise ubuntu could manage and share his disk
[20:41] <an3k> [21:11:53] <jc> So I'd like it to store all my pictures, films and music and have them available to the house. I'd also like to play about with Linux. It also needs to have windows available. Finally I would like Xpenology as I utilise the remote apps on my iphone.
[20:41] <ikonia> thats why I took the time to talk to him and find out his real needs
[20:41] <ikonia> yes, follow the rest of the conersation
[20:41] <ikonia> conversation
[20:42] <an3k> oh god, do you even know what you're writing?
[20:42] <an3k> [21:41:06] <ikonia> he didn't want to run windows
[20:42] <an3k> [21:11:53] <jc> So I'd like it to store all my pictures, films and music and have them available to the house. I'd also like to play about with Linux. It also needs to have windows available. Finally I would like Xpenology as I utilise the remote apps on my iphone.
[20:42] <ikonia> follow the rest of the conversation,
[20:42] <ikonia> where I ask multiple times why he wants windows and he was following a guide that suggested a windows install for media serving
[20:43] <an3k> ok so how does he gets DS audio now?
[20:43] <ikonia> you're welcome to disagree with my advice, there are loads of ways to do things, you're not welcome to disagree with the attitude you did
[20:43] <ikonia> through media services, such as plex as you suggested
[20:43] <an3k> what is DS audio?
[20:43] <ikonia> the san app streamer thing
[20:44] <an3k> did he said so or do you think he meant that?
[20:44] <ikonia> he said he wanted it due to the iphone app
[20:44] <ikonia> which when you speak to him, he wanted the ability to use "an app" not "I want that specific app"
[20:44] <ikonia> re-read the conversation and you'll see he was just a bit lost, had an idea of what he wanted but was locked into a guide
[20:45] <ikonia> hence why he's left seeming pretty happy about things
[20:45] <ikonia> (well he's not left the channel, he's left to look into a setup)
[20:46] <an3k> ikonia: Why did you just overtook the whole conversation while he already got help instead of helping the others who didn't already got help?
[20:46] <ikonia> and to be honest if any of what you are saying is correct, it's just miss-understanding rather than false informaiton
[20:47] <ikonia> because the convesation was getting nowhere, he was lost and trying to setup 3 VM's with different OS's including a VM for NAS OS on physical disk just to get a media server
[20:47] <ikonia> and I didn't "take over" he responded to me once we started talking about his real needs
[20:47] <an3k> he wasn't lost and he was not going to install 3 VMs.
[20:47] <an3k> oh, yeah.
[20:47] <ikonia> sorry if you don't feel that
[20:47] <ikonia> either way, it's not a problem that you disagree, you're welcome to that,
[20:47] <an3k> I was in a conversation with him and tried to figured out what he wanted but then you just jumped in and ripped the whole convo to you
[20:47] <ikonia> the problem is how you express that
[20:49] <an3k> ikonia: the problem is that a convo gets very unclear when one guy just shouts OFFTOPIC as soon as you're not 100% ontopic or when everybody wants to give a little advise which ends up in 5 people talking about the same topic
[20:49] <ikonia> no-one shouted offtopic
[20:49] <an3k> ähm
[20:49] <ikonia> again re-read the conversation and we very much went outside the generic ubuntu OS discussion to get an idea of what he wanted
[20:50] <ikonia> becuase it was clear what he was trying to do was use ubuntu to get his job done
[20:50] <an3k> [20:58:23] <daftykins> why such a hodge-podge setup on a single host?
[20:50] <an3k> [20:58:53] * Brunost_ is now known as brunost
[20:50] <an3k> [20:58:59] <jc> Ha! Well that's a very good question. I'd been reading about ESXi and wanted to tinker.
[20:50] <an3k> [20:59:37] <jc> I wanted windows access. Linus and I'm keen to run Xpenology. I did also look at Openmediavault
[20:50] <an3k> [20:59:42] <an3k> I could help you with ESXi. I had that running :)
[20:50] <an3k> [20:59:42] <jc> linux
[20:50] <an3k> [21:00:04] <daftykins> jc: this is all bordering on chat, vmware is not on topic here - you can take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:50] <an3k> [21:00:19] <daftykins> only support queries relating to the use of *buntu are relevant in this channel
[20:50] <ikonia> I wasn't in the conversation at that time, and as you can see we pulled it back into how to use ubuntu to do your needs
[20:50] <an3k> yeah but that's not the point
[20:50] <ikonia> which is very much on topic
[20:51] <an3k> the point is that someone should tell daftykins to wait a bit longer before shouting offtoiuc
[20:51] <ikonia> thats fine, we can talk to him about that
[20:51] <ikonia> your point seems to be changing to be honest, you've come in here angry and you're looking for a point
[20:51] <an3k> in here? sure
[20:51] <an3k> in #ubuntu not
[20:51] <ikonia> first it was me, then it was false advice, then it was I took over, then it was someone shouted offtopic, then it was someone shouted offtopic too quick
[20:52] <ikonia> but I'm happy to talk to daftykins to cool him off on the offtopic triffer
[20:52] <ikonia> so thats fair
[20:53] <an3k> ikonia: everything was fine until you took over the convo while there was absolutely no need for it.
[20:53] <ikonia> it really didn't look fine
[20:53] <an3k> And insteadof checking "Does he already gets help? Is the help he gets good? etc" you just overtook the convo
[20:53] <ikonia> and if you look at the lines you've pasted above, it looks less fine than when I started taling to him
[20:53] <ikonia> he didn't appear to be getting help, so I pushed to find his real needs,
[20:54] <ikonia> nothing more, and he responded
[20:54] <an3k> for sure he responded, he's obviously well educated
[20:54] <ikonia> the only reason you're in this channel is your attitude and smart mouth comments
[20:54] <an3k> and you don't know if the good help or not because - as you already said - you don't know what was written before you joined
[20:54] <ikonia> if you had focussed on calmly helping and disucssing your disagreement in advice, there would be no problem
[20:55] <ikonia> the lines I saw where not good and the user looked lost, so I asked him to clarify his needs,
[20:55] <an3k> exactly but you didn't even gave me a chance to ask him what he really wants.
[20:55] <ikonia> he responded with good info, if a bit unsure of how he wanted his goals and seems happy with his options now
[20:55] <ikonia> an3k: you kept saying it didn't matter
[20:55] <ikonia> and telling me not to ask what he wants
[20:55] <ikonia> so it seems to suggest you really didn't want to know
[20:56] <an3k> the only reason I was in #ubuntu was for giving help / getting some help because #ubuntu-server is kind of dead
[20:56] <ikonia> thats great
[20:56] <ikonia> and it's valued
[20:59] <ikonia> an3k: ok ? all good now ?
[21:00] <an3k> is there nothing like a Professional Support Contract?
[21:00] <ikonia> sorry what ?
[21:00] <ikonia> in what context ? and where ?
[21:01] <an3k> I want professional support. I have some issues but don't get any support
[21:02] <ikonia> you can pay some companies for professional support
[21:02] <ikonia> or you can take your chances with community support
[21:05] <Jordan_U> an3k: http://www.canonical.com/services
[21:08] <ikonia> an3k: everything ok now ? if I remove the ban forward i #ubuntu, can you rejoin and keep a cooler head please ?
[21:08] <an3k> thanks Jordan_U
[21:08] <ikonia> if there are any problems you're free to re-join this channel (#ubuntu-ops) to voice them
[21:08] <an3k> ikonia: no need, I won't come back
[21:08] <ikonia> that way it doesn't look bad to the channel
[21:08] <ikonia> oh, ok
[21:08] <ikonia> I guess we're done then,
[21:08] <an3k> yep
[21:08] <ikonia> please /part the channel,
[21:15] <Myrtti> nicomachus: did you need help with something, or did you just come to watch the show?
[21:15] <nicomachus> sorry, observing. I was curious.
[21:15] <Myrtti> !logs
[21:57] <ikonia> hello again an3k
[21:57] <ikonia> I think you may have #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server on your autojoin
[21:59] <Jordan_U> ikonia: Should we just change the ban forward to a straight ban?
[22:00] <ikonia> perhaps
[22:00] <ikonia> unless he's changed his mind
[22:01] <an3k> well I'm back for talking but just listening
[22:01] <ikonia> sorry, what does that mena ?
[22:01] <ikonia> mena
[22:01] <ikonia> mean
[22:02] <Myrtti> an3k: you might want to check the topic
[22:02] <an3k> Myrtti: of what channel?
[22:02] <Myrtti> this channel
[22:02] <Myrtti> did you need help with something, still?
[22:03] <an3k> ikonia: that means that I'll not write anything into #ubuntu or the other channels unless someone asks me directly.
[22:04] <ikonia> well, you're not in #ubuntu, due to the ban forward here,
[22:04] <ikonia> so probably best you just leave
[22:04] <an3k> yeah I know that but you said something like "[22:08:16] <ikonia> an3k: everything ok now ? if I remove the ban forward i #ubuntu, can you rejoin and keep a cooler head please ?"
[22:05] <ikonia> yes, you then stated you wouldn't be back
[22:06] <an3k> yes, for seeking help or randomly providing help, except someone asks me directly.  I just didn't wanted to waste any more time. And by that I don't mean my help attempt to jc or our talk was a waste but I didn't got help for various server issues and I have to finish that server so ...
[22:10] <ikonia> "I won't be back"
[22:11] <ikonia> probably best I back out as I'm not a fan of your comments
[22:11] <ikonia> leave it to one of the others to see how they feel
[22:11] <an3k> the comments I made after joining the channel ~14 minutes before?
[22:11] <ikonia> all of it
[22:12] <Jordan_U> an3k: So, to be completely clear, you *do* now want access to #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server, correct?
[22:13] <an3k> Jordan_U: it's only #ubuntu
[22:13] <an3k> I'm not banned on any other channel
[22:13] <an3k> the problem with #ubuntu-server is there's nearly no help
[22:15] <Jordan_U> an3k: OK, getting unbanned from #ubuntu is pretty simple, you just have to agree to follow the channel's guidelines (and we have to have reason from your comments and history to actually believe that you will). So please start by reading the channel guidelines...
[22:15] <Jordan_U> !guidelines | an3k
[22:18] <an3k> Pretty much the same as the old channels had 15 years back in time :) So yes, I do agree
[22:18] <an3k> However I do have one questions regarding the guidelines.
[22:19] <Jordan_U> an3k: And that is?
[22:20] <an3k> Do everybody has to follow these guidelines or are there exceptions? Asking for a friend ;)
[22:21] <Jordan_U> an3k: Everyone must follow these guidelines.
[22:22] <an3k> ok, thank you. I'd then let calm down the situation and would like to talk about the issue tomorrow around the same time if that is ok.
[22:24] <Jordan_U> an3k: That sounds like a great idea. I'm not sure I'll be around tomorrow but I'm sure someone will.
[22:29] <Jordan_U> an3k: Please part #ubuntu-ops until you're ready to talk again tomorrow.


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[07:24] <Laney> could someone review the ubuntu-meta change please?
[07:25] <Laney> just rushing slightly to get a candidate out
[07:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-meta [source] (groovy-proposed) [1.459]
[07:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-default-settings [source] (groovy-proposed) [20.10.1]
[07:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted plasma-discover [source] (groovy-proposed) [5.19.5-0ubuntu2]
[08:06] <Laney> merci sil2100!
[08:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: librsvg (groovy-proposed/main) [2.50.0+dfsg-1 => 2.50.1+dfsg-1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server) (sync)
[08:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libteam (groovy-proposed/main) [1.30-1 => 1.31-1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist) (sync)
[08:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected pacemaker [source] (focal-proposed) [2.0.3-3ubuntu4]
[08:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libinput (groovy-proposed/main) [1.16.1-1ubuntu1 => 1.16.2-1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist) (sync)
[09:03] <sil2100> Laney: ok, added raspi desktop to the tracker etc.
[09:03] <sil2100> Added it to the groovy manifest to
[09:03] <sil2100> *too
[09:03] <Laney> sil2100: w00t
[09:03] <Laney> I'll trigger a build once the seed migrates
[09:03] <Laney> see if it gets posted
[09:03] <sil2100> Awesome, we'll see if the cdimage isotracker bits are correct
[09:03] <sil2100> oh, let me deploy  those
[09:04] <Laney> already did
[09:04] <Laney> unless there's more?
[09:04] <Laney> check my later commits, there was much more required
[09:04] <sil2100> Yeah, saw that - but I added some more for the isotracker config
[09:04] <sil2100> And a small typo fix
[09:05] <Laney> nod
[09:05] <Laney> I thought that bit about copying the images to debian-cd
[09:05] <Laney> that whole function could be refactored
[09:14] <Laney> sorry about deleting that line, I must have mashed the keyboard just before committing 😬
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected linux-firmware-raspi2 [source] (groovy-proposed) [1.20200902-0ubuntu2]
[09:22] <sil2100> It was late so it's understandable ;) I was just surprised that cdimage didn't choke itself!
[09:30] <Laney> it probably did but that would have broken emailing
[09:30] <Laney> thankfully :>
[09:32]  * Laney eyes snakefruit
[09:33] <Laney> laney@snakefruit:/srv/ubuntu-archive/mirror/ubuntu/dists/groovy-proposed/main/binary-arm64$ ls -l
[09:33] <Laney> total 100
[09:33] <Laney> seems old..?
[09:33] <Laney> -rw-r--r-- 1 ubuntu-archive ubuntu-archive 51422 Oct  8 02:43 Packages.gz
[09:33] <Laney> -rw-r--r-- 1 ubuntu-archive ubuntu-archive 43252 Oct  8 02:43 Packages.xz
[09:34]  * Laney looks at archive-reports
[09:36] <Laney> (temporarily disabled for investigation, e.g. no new proposed-migration runs for a little bit)
[09:41] <apw> ls /srv/ubuntu-archive/mirror/ubuntu/dists/groovy-proposed/main/binary-arm64
[09:42] <apw> doh
[09:42] <Laney> apw following along at home ;-)
[09:42] <apw> i was trying to see if it was all of them or just ports, or, seems to be all of them
[09:42] <Laney> yeah
[09:42] <Laney> IS did something to the server at this time
[09:42] <Laney> and a lock got stuck because of it
[09:43] <Laney> apw: check mutt -f /var/mail/ubuntu-archive and go to the end (today's mails)
[09:44] <apw> Laney, at least the main publisher is cycling ok
[09:44] <Laney> yeah separate machine
[09:44] <Laney> why's cron saying all these things are not found?
[09:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.46.1 => 2.47.1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[09:48] <Laney> possibly seems to be better now...
[09:48] <Laney> I didn't do anything, but moved the time of one of the failures to now to see if it would work, and it seems to be
[09:48] <Laney> I'll clear the stuck lock on archive-reports and run it interactively
[09:49] <apw> it doesn't make a whoel heap of sense for sure
[09:49] <Laney> IS said something about fiddling with the home directory
[09:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (groovy-proposed/main) [2.46.1+20.10 => 2.47.1+20.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[09:49] <Laney> but I'm not clear exactly what that was
[09:49] <Laney> seems related at least
[09:49] <apw> Laney, oh ... /home/ubuntu/archive is on /srv ...
[09:50] <Laney> yeah?
[09:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (bionic-proposed/main) [2.46.1+18.04 => 2.47.1+18.04] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[09:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (focal-proposed/main) [2.46.1+20.04 => 2.47.1+20.04] (core)
[09:56] <Laney> ok, scripts back on ...
[09:57] <tseliot> sil2100, hey, can you approve nvidia-graphics-drivers-455 in groovy, please?
[09:58] <apw> sil2100, if you do that won't it kill anything pending which is linked against -450
[09:58] <apw> tseliot, ^
[09:58] <apw> there are 3-4 kerenls all wedged trying to release with the previous -450
[09:59] <tseliot> apw, 455 doesn't replace any other NVIDIA driver, it's just an addition
[09:59] <apw> tseliot, then as you were
[09:59] <apw> tseliot, how does that however work with the userspace compatibility
[10:00] <tseliot> apw, what do you mean?
[10:00] <tseliot> there are no l-r-m for 455
[10:03] <tseliot> apw, the 455 series adds support for new GPUs (the Ampere family), and it's best to have something in the archive that supports them than nothing at all
[10:07] <tseliot> 450 is also in the archive, it's an LTS driver
[10:10] <sil2100> tseliot: I'll take a quick look in a second
[10:12] <tseliot> sil2100, thanks
[10:12] <Laney> more locks needing to be killed on snakefruit
[10:12] <Laney> everybody else watch out for stuck jobs ...
[10:19] <apw> oh lovely
[10:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pitivi (groovy-proposed/universe) [0.999-2 => 2020.09-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[10:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pitivi [sync] (groovy-proposed) [2020.09-1]
[10:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: quadrapassel (groovy-proposed/universe) [1:3.36.02-1 => 1:3.38.1-1] (desktop-extra) (sync)
[10:40] <sil2100> tseliot: ok, approving - but I guess one day it would be good to revisit some parts like the debian/copyright file! Since I see it's pointing upstream to an ftp:// url, which doesn't seem to work (HTTP does though)
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-455 [source] (groovy-proposed) [455.28-0ubuntu1]
[10:41] <sil2100> tseliot: I'll probably forget to binNEW the binaries, so if you notice those are built and published, give me a ping
[10:42] <tseliot> sil2100, Good point. The debian/rules.defs has the correct links
[10:42] <tseliot> sil2100, I will, thanks :)
[10:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-graphics-drivers-455 [i386] (groovy-proposed/multiverse) [455.28-0ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist)
[10:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tepl (groovy-proposed/main) [4.4.0-1 => 5.0.0-1~fakesync] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
[10:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gedit (groovy-proposed/main) [3.36.2-1 => 3.38.0-1] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-graphics-drivers-455 [amd64] (groovy-proposed/multiverse) [455.28-0ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist)
[10:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: adequate (groovy-proposed/primary) [0.15.3]
[10:54] <tseliot> sil2100, the binaries seem to be ready ^^
[10:58] <sil2100> Looking
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted adequate [source] (groovy-proposed) [0.15.3]
[11:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: adequate [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [0.15.3] (no packageset)
[11:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted adequate [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.15.3]
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted babl [sync] (groovy-proposed) [1:0.1.82-1]
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gedit [sync] (groovy-proposed) [3.38.0-1]
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted inxi [sync] (groovy-proposed) [3.1.07-1-1]
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tepl [source] (groovy-proposed) [5.0.0-1~fakesync]
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntukylin-wallpapers [source] (groovy-proposed) [20.10.1]
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted enigmail [source] (groovy-proposed) [2:2.2.4-0ubuntu1]
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted quadrapassel [sync] (groovy-proposed) [1:3.38.1-1]
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-software [sync] (groovy-proposed) [3.38.0-2]
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted thunderbird [source] (groovy-proposed) [1:78.3.2+build1-0ubuntu1]
[11:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tepl [s390x] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.0.0-1~fakesync] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
[11:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tepl [amd64] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.0.0-1~fakesync] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
[11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tepl [i386] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.0.0-1~fakesync] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
[11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tepl [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.0.0-1~fakesync] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
[11:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tepl [arm64] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.0.0-1~fakesync] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
[11:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tepl [armhf] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.0.0-1~fakesync] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
[11:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ubuntukylin-wallpapers [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [20.10.1] (ubuntukylin)
[11:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kdeconnect (groovy-proposed/universe) [20.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 20.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[11:34] <RikMills> ^ mid importance CVE for kdeconnect
[11:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tepl [riscv64] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.0.0-1~fakesync] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tepl [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [5.0.0-1~fakesync]
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tepl [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [5.0.0-1~fakesync]
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tepl [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [5.0.0-1~fakesync]
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tepl [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [5.0.0-1~fakesync]
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tepl [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [5.0.0-1~fakesync]
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tepl [riscv64] (groovy-proposed) [5.0.0-1~fakesync]
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tepl [i386] (groovy-proposed) [5.0.0-1~fakesync]
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ubuntukylin-wallpapers [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [20.10.1]
[12:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-software (groovy-proposed/universe) [3.38.0-2 => 3.38.0-2build1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[12:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-455 [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [455.28-0ubuntu1]
[12:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-455 [i386] (groovy-proposed) [455.28-0ubuntu1]
[12:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdeconnect [source] (groovy-proposed) [20.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-software [source] (groovy-proposed) [3.38.0-2build1]
[12:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-mines [sync] (groovy-proposed) [1:3.36.1-1]
[13:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcin (groovy-proposed/universe) [2.8.8+dfsg1-1ubuntu5 => 2.9.0+dfsg1-1] (input-methods) (sync)
[13:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-perftools (groovy-proposed/main) [2.7-1ubuntu3 => 2.7-1ubuntu4] (no packageset)
[13:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted google-perftools [source] (groovy-proposed) [2.7-1ubuntu4]
[13:41] <Laney> bah
[13:41] <Laney> BAH
[13:44] <Laney> ok, that's fixed again
[13:45] <Laney> desktop-reinstalled (raspi) daily builds enabled
[13:46] <doko> xnox: if you want build-essential to migrate, you need to file a MIR for gcc-10-cross-ports and gcc-defaults-ports.  which then probably will be rejected because we don't want to have these compilers in main ...
[13:47] <doko> so you probably want build-essential-mipsen for riscv ...
[13:48] <vorlon> doko: are you talking about the focal one? we dealt with that in groovy by moving crossbuild-essential-riscv64 binary to universe
[13:49] <vorlon> (demoted now in focal-proposed, to match)
[13:52] <doko> vorlon: yes, focal-proposed
[13:52] <vorlon> ok
[14:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libreoffice (groovy-proposed/main) [1:7.0.1-0ubuntu1 => 1:7.0.2~rc2-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[14:13] <seb128> sorry but I'm going to post that again since I didn't have much luck in previous tries, hanyone to review small changes to the by team proposed report which have been waiting for a while?
[14:13] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-archive-scripts/noncandid-migrate-after/+merge/391117
[14:13] <seb128> to display the 'migrate after' also for items that are not candidate (it's useful in some cases)
[14:13] <seb128> and
[14:13] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-archive-scripts/display-components-mismatch/+merge/391370
[14:13] <seb128> to display component mismatch informations on the team report
[14:14] <seb128> (example report are available on the mps if you want to see the result of the changes)
[14:24] <vorlon> seb128: approved - sorry, meant to look at them when you asked before but they wound up falling out of my scrollback before I had a chance
[14:24] <doko> sil2100, bdmurray: any idea what to do with https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/273002cdfedddd082d0665fe22105c88579ee94e ?
[14:26] <seb128> vorlon, thanks
[14:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-perftools (groovy-proposed/main) [2.7-1ubuntu4 => 2.7-1ubuntu5] (no packageset)
[14:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gedit-plugins (groovy-proposed/universe) [3.36.2-1 => 3.38.0-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[14:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gedit-plugins [sync] (groovy-proposed) [3.38.0-1]
[14:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted google-perftools [source] (groovy-proposed) [2.7-1ubuntu5]
[14:47] <bdmurray> doko: check to see if there are any similarities among the individual crashes
[14:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openjfx (focal-proposed/universe) [11.0.7+0-2ubuntu1 => 11.0.7+0-2ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[15:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openjdk-lts (groovy-proposed/main) [11.0.8+10-0ubuntu1 => 11.0.9+10-0ubuntu1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[15:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openjdk-8 (groovy-proposed/universe) [8u265-b01-0ubuntu2 => 8u272~b09-0ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist)
[15:10] <doko> bdmurray: these all point to glib/gtk
[15:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qtdeclarative-opensource-src (groovy-proposed/universe) [5.14.2+dfsg-3 => 5.14.2+dfsg-3ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu, qt5)
[15:11] <bdmurray> doko: they almost all seem to be from the same system too
[15:11] <bdmurray> doko: I haven't finished checking all of them though
[15:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openjdk-8 [source] (groovy-proposed) [8u272~b09-0ubuntu1]
[15:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qtdeclarative-opensource-src [source] (groovy-proposed) [5.14.2+dfsg-3ubuntu1]
[16:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: maxima-sage (groovy-proposed/universe) [5.42.2-2build1 => 5.44.0-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[16:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted maxima-sage [sync] (groovy-proposed) [5.44.0-1]
[16:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: linux-firmware-raspi2 (groovy-proposed/multiverse) [1.20200902-0ubuntu1 => 2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:28] <xnox> Laney:  ^^^
[16:28] <xnox> empty orig + three component tarballs = 3.0 (quit)
[16:28] <xnox> empty orig + three component tarballs = 3.0 (quilt)
[16:29] <bdmurray> doko: actually that python3.8 crash is from two separate users but I don't think it should block the SRU so will override it
[16:31] <bdmurray> doko: hrm, actually some more came in from other users
[16:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cryptsetup [source] (focal-proposed) [2:2.2.2-3ubuntu2.3]
[17:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: hydrogen (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.0.0~rc1-0ubuntu1 => 1.0.1-0ubuntu1] (ubuntustudio)
[17:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: live-build (groovy-proposed/main) [3.0~a57-1ubuntu40 => 3.0~a57-1ubuntu41] (desktop-core)
[17:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> ubuntu-release: RE: hydrogen: I realize that this could have been uploaded sooner, and I apologize. Rather large diff due to two bugfix revisions in a row being included. Some of the bugfix doesn't even apply (windows only), so that part can be safely ignored.
[17:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> I don't believe this needs a FFe since there were no new features introduced between 1.0.0-rc1 and 1.0.1.
[17:20] <vorlon> rbalint: what do you think about dropping the dependency on libnss-nisplus and libnss-nis from libc6 to a Recommends?  libnsl2 pulls in a rather large cluster of libraries
[17:20] <vorlon> and these are infrequently used nss modules
[17:21] <vorlon> rbalint: so making them removable should help the size of our minimal images
[17:22] <vorlon> (libnsl2 -> libtirpc3 -> libgssapi-krb5-2 -> libkrb5-3 -> libssl1.1)
[17:40] <rbalint> vorlon, i planned looking at that after the release to minimize breakages
[17:40] <rbalint> vorlon, but in general i'd like to trim the dependencies, yes
[17:41] <rbalint> vorlon, moving to Recommends seems safe enough, but imo it is too late
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pacemaker (focal-proposed/main) [2.0.3-3ubuntu3 => 2.0.3-3ubuntu4] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[17:48] <Laney> agreed
[17:49] <Laney> xnox: will look, thanks!
[17:55] <vorlon> rbalint: right - I think it's too late for this cycle but that we should do it first thing in helical
[17:56] <bdmurray> spoiler alert!
[17:58] <Laney> xnox: this is beautiful. I cried.
[18:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: masakari (groovy-proposed/main) [10.0.0~b3~git2020091407.ee48dc2-0ubuntu1 => 10.0.0~rc1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: masakari (focal-proposed/main) [9.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 9.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[18:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: shovill (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.1.0-2 => 1.1.0-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[18:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted shovill [sync] (groovy-proposed) [1.1.0-3]
[18:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-klotski (groovy-proposed/universe) [1:3.38.0-1 => 1:3.38.1-1] (desktop-extra) (sync)
[18:26] <Laney> xnox: The only thing I might want is a README.source describing how to hold the thing
[18:26] <Laney> but next time
[18:29] <Laney> now go forth and ping cpaelz_er
[18:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted linux-firmware-raspi2 [source] (groovy-proposed) [2-0ubuntu1]
[18:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted containerd [source] (groovy-proposed) [1.3.7-0ubuntu2]
[18:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openscenegraph [sync] (groovy-proposed) [3.6.5+dfsg1-6]
[19:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: docker.io (groovy-proposed/universe) [19.03.13-0ubuntu1 => 19.03.13-0ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[19:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted docker.io [source] (groovy-proposed) [19.03.13-0ubuntu2]
[19:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pacemaker [source] (focal-proposed) [2.0.3-3ubuntu4]
[19:42] <tdaitx> oh, only openjdk-8 got approved for groovy
[19:42] <tdaitx> could a kind soul with the right permissions approve openjdk-lts as well?
[21:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: sagetex (groovy-proposed/primary) [3.4+ds-2build1]
[21:32] <mwhudson> vorlon, Laney: what does the release team think about removing the containerd binaries for riscv? it is currently in depwait because we switched to building with go 1.13 as upstream does not support building with 1.14 but there is no riscv support there
[21:32] <mwhudson> we could build with 1.14 on riscv, but it probably doesn't work very well, although probably noone can tell because there aren't any images afaik
[22:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (bionic-proposed/main) [1:18.04.39 => 1:18.04.40] (core)
[22:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (xenial-proposed/main) [1:16.04.31 => 1:16.04.32] (core)
[22:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (xenial-proposed/main) [1:16.04.31 => 1:16.04.32] (core)
[22:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:16.04.32]
[22:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (bionic-proposed/main) [1:18.04.39 => 1:18.04.40] (core)
[22:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:18.04.40]
[22:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (focal-proposed/main) [1:20.04.25 => 1:20.04.28] (core)
[23:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cryptsetup [source] (bionic-proposed) [2:2.0.2-1ubuntu1.2]
[23:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-perftools (groovy-proposed/main) [2.7-1ubuntu5 => 2.7-1ubuntu6] (no packageset)


[01:46] <danoiseman> Hello! I have Ubuntu 18.04, and I would like to add ubuntu studio repositories, but I can't find information about it
[01:47] <danoiseman> Do you know if its possible to switch to ubuntu studio from ubuntu vanilla?
[01:56] <danoiseman> nvm, I just wanted a realtime kernel, found liquorix
[01:56] <danoiseman> I would try that
[01:57] <krytarik> Ok, I was about to respond to both queries.. >_>


[15:29] <sarnold> good morning
[15:30] <slyon> good evening :)
[15:30] <sarnold> :)
[15:30] <cpaelzer_> hiho
[15:30] <cpaelzer_> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:30:59 UTC.  The chair is cpaelzer_.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
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[15:31] <cpaelzer_> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage
[15:31] <cpaelzer_> we are closing week by week towards feature freeze, I'm sure there will be many last minute panic actions :-P
[15:31] <cpaelzer_> so let us have a look
[15:31] <cpaelzer_> #topic current component mismatches
[15:31] <cpaelzer_> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[15:31] <cpaelzer_> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[15:31] <cpaelzer_> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[15:32] <joalif> o/
[15:32] <cpaelzer_> slyon: it seems steve didn't agree on your detection as false positive
[15:32] <cpaelzer_> slyon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plzip/+bug/1980663
[15:32] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1980663 in libnet-dns-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] false-positives, do not promote" [High, In Progress]
[15:32] <cpaelzer_> slyon: was that further discussed by now?
[15:32] <slyon> cpaelzer_: ACK. just uploaded a new package version today to solve that
[15:33] <cpaelzer> ah ok, considering that handled then ...
[15:33] <cpaelzer> thanks
[15:33] <slyon> its solved in -proposed already
[15:33] <cpaelzer> indeed, gone there
[15:33] <cpaelzer> jaraco and dependencies got worked on by jamespage and team
[15:33] <cpaelzer> licensecheck has a bunch of stubs by now
[15:34] <cpaelzer> ok that is slyon again
[15:34] <slyon> Also, I uploaded a new version of licensecheck, shrinking it's dependency tree a bit. But unfortunately a new dependency was added again in the meantime... so we need one MIR (to be handled by foundations)
[15:34] <cpaelzer> you must be busy
[15:34] <cpaelzer> but thanks for tackling it!
[15:34] <cpaelzer> ok and the odd broadcom-sta is just in #ubuntu-release asking for AA to have a look
[15:34] <cpaelzer> that should be nothing to act on for this week
[15:35] <cpaelzer> hmm, well we might have forgotten this one
[15:35] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pkgconf/+bug/1998095
[15:35] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1998095 in pkgconf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pkgconf, replacement for pkg-config" [Medium, Confirmed]
[15:35] <didrocks> (hey! sorry, I was lost in reviews)
[15:36] <cpaelzer> I haven't read through all of it yet, slyon / joalif - what is the state on this?
[15:36] <joalif> that's mine right ?
[15:36] <sarnold> yes
[15:36] <joalif> it's crazy over seg after new yeatr, i'll look at it this week
[15:36] <slyon> Foundations agreed to subscribe to that package, but we're not driving the MIR
[15:36] <cpaelzer> ok, thanks joalif
[15:36] <cpaelzer> slyon: who is driving it (if anything comes up)
[15:37] <slyon> LocutusOfBorg IIRC
[15:37] <cpaelzer> one of the purpose of this meeting is ensuring nothing falls through the cracks, this was one such case - glad we've seen it
[15:37] <cpaelzer> ok slyon
[15:37] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[15:37] <cpaelzer> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing
[15:37] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:37] <cpaelzer> 5 to distribute looking for reviewers
[15:38] <slyon> mdurl and python-typing-extensions are from foundations. so I'm stepping back from those.
[15:38] <cpaelzer> kea is ours I shouldn't review it myself if possible, I'd take cpdb-libs and xmltodict
[15:38] <slyon> I can take duktape or kea
[15:39] <cpaelzer> handing you kea for now
[15:39] <slyon> ack
[15:39] <joalif> i can take mdurl or python-typing-extensions
[15:39] <cpaelzer> joalif: didrocks: could you take mdurl or python-typing each?
[15:39] <cpaelzer> ok joalif any preference?
[15:39] <joalif> yup
[15:39] <joalif> mdurl
[15:39] <didrocks> happy with the python module then :)
[15:40] <cpaelzer> doktape is left looking for an owner
[15:40] <cpaelzer> I've already taken two today
[15:40] <cpaelzer> who thinks they are able to take one more?
[15:40] <cpaelzer> IRIC that was already a bit of a back and forth case right?
[15:40] <didrocks> I can’t do this week nor the next one, need to boostrap some projects
[15:40] <slyon> I still have a carry-over from last week, so I'm full.
[15:40] <joalif> I already have 2
[15:41] <didrocks> the one after is still in the timeline, so, I can postpone it start of february
[15:41] <didrocks> (it's not like it was stuck for long anyway wanting on it to be ready)
[15:41] <joalif> but if it's not too urgent I can take, but wont work on it until next mtg
[15:41] <cpaelzer> well, let me take the suffering then and do it
[15:41] <cpaelzer> I can use it as excuse in a million other tasks
[15:42]  * cpaelzer sees a MIR-half-day ahead of himself
[15:42] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[15:42] <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[15:42] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:43] <cpaelzer> license is part of the complex that slyon is on already
[15:43] <cpaelzer> no action needed
[15:43] <cpaelzer> gnome-sushi was passed back to jbicha by didrocks
[15:43] <cpaelzer> no action form us either (right now)
[15:43] <cpaelzer> the rest is old
[15:43] <cpaelzer> that gets us to security ...
[15:43] <cpaelzer> #topic MIR related Security Review Queue
[15:43] <cpaelzer> Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable?
[15:43] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:43] <cpaelzer> Internal link
[15:43] <cpaelzer> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect
[15:44] <cpaelzer> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much
[15:44] <cpaelzer> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594
[15:44] <sarnold> mark has been doing good work on ruby-rack and ruby-sinatra, if those aren't done yet, they probably will be done soon :)
[15:44] <cpaelzer> they are complete
[15:44] <sarnold> \o/
[15:44] <cpaelzer> 12 in backlog, 4 in progress right now
[15:44] <cpaelzer> ~8 or so on the MIR review stage, some might end up in security as well
[15:45] <cpaelzer> sarnold: given those numbers do resources and velocity match to get it done for 23.04 feature freeze?
[15:45] <sarnold> *nod* that sushi thumbnailer thing felt plausibly on our plate soon (mmmmmm, sushi)
[15:45] <cpaelzer> or do we need to inform anyone they won't make it
[15:45] <sarnold> cpaelzer: I'm optimistic at the moment -- mark has been doing great work, and other team members have been making efforts to contribute
[15:46] <cpaelzer> ok, I hope those efforts work out
[15:46] <sarnold> as do i :)
[15:46] <cpaelzer> I'll keep polling you every week as so many depend on it
[15:46] <cpaelzer> ok then ...
[15:46] <sarnold> ack, thanks
[15:46] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[15:46] <sarnold> none here
[15:46] <joalif> none
[15:46] <slyon> nothing
[15:47] <cpaelzer> nothing from me
[15:47] <didrocks> nothing from me either
[15:47] <cpaelzer> ok, it seems we can give everyone 10 minutes back despite lots of content today
[15:47] <cpaelzer> thank you all!
[15:47] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:47] <didrocks> thanks as usual cpaelzer :)
[15:47] <joalif> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:47] <slyon> thanks cpaelzer, all!
[15:47] <cpaelzer> jamespage: let us know later if reading the logs makes you yell at us
[15:47] <cpaelzer> bye
[15:47] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[15:48] <jamespage> will do