[00:11] <Silver_A1row> Anybody there and know why mixer is borked?
[00:18] <Silver_A1row> pulseaudio volume control doesn't see any of my sound hardware either, only 'dummy output'
[00:19] <jazzdude00021> Question for anyone out there: I'd like to make a bootable DVD with a browser and not much else on it to run on a few of my school's old laptops. Is remastersys the best way to go for creating that image or is there another software that works?
[00:20] <Silver_A1row> Live DVD of xubuntu have too much stuff on it?
[00:22] <Silver_A1row> Well, I think there is too much junk on there myself, they had to abandon cd's
[00:22] <jazzdude00021> a little... I'd like them to boot it without getting an install prompt...
[00:22] <Silver_A1row> software center, bleh :P
[00:23] <Silver_Arrow> Derpy client, I just noticed that
[00:23] <jazzdude00021> and the terminal is root so they could /hypothetically/ install stuff to any existing writable medium
[00:24] <jazzdude00021> Is there a live dvd that doesn't install that I just missed when looking over the Xubuntu webpage?
[00:24] <Silver_Arrow> Doubt it
[00:25] <jazzdude00021> I guess I'll use remastersys unless there's a better option...
[00:25] <Silver_Arrow> the only live cd I know of off the top of my head that doesn't install anything is g-parted live, and it wipes entire hard disks
[00:25] <Silver_Arrow> oh, make sure you take g-parted off of the live dvd too
[00:26] <jazzdude00021> Will do... though the HD in the laptops will be wiped anyway so there's not much they could do with it
[00:27] <jazzdude00021> at least nothing I couldn't undo by runing G-parted :-)
[00:27] <Silver_Arrow> lemme guess, shipped with windows 8? :3
[00:28] <jazzdude00021> Nope... these are old.. .shipped with XP or in some cases Vista
[00:28] <jazzdude00021> just trying to breathe new life into them
[00:28] <Silver_Arrow> ah, I have an older laptop with xp pro I made into a dual boot
[00:29] <jazzdude00021> give our students basic internet access, nothing more... Basically make a Chromebook out of old hardware gathering dust in the closet
[00:29] <Silver_Arrow> when I tried using the xp much I had to upgrade the ram in it
[00:29] <Silver_Arrow> Is it possible for a kernel to have a memmory leak?
[00:40] <[0gb_us]> Do I need any extra software for a game controller to work in Xubuntu?
[01:19] <[0gb_us]> Never mind. It seems the controller wasn't working due to some issue in some of the games I tested it in. Also, if anyone out there is considering getting a game controller, I'd recommend one with a joystick. Many of these games assume there is a joystick, and won't allow movement by arrow buttons.
[02:07] <aj_> hello
[02:08] <aj_> Hey folks, I have a couple questions regarding my graphics on xubuntu 13.04.  I have sandy bridge. when I do lspci -v and look under the VGA controller for the Intel GPU, it's listed and it says the kernel driver in use is the i915.  When I do lsmod, I see for video, it has two modules loaded -- i915, nouveau.  Same thing goes for drm, two modules - i915 and nouveau.  Is this normal?
[03:05] <xubuntu790> I need help!
[03:05] <xubuntu790> Help someone?
[03:47] <nerdtron> xubuntu790 what help do you need?
[05:14] <liyuce> Hello, I'm running xubuntu 13.04 on my computer, but I've faced a problem about this program: http://lovebizhi.com/linux_deb
[05:14] <liyuce> 桌面环境：XFCE
[05:14] <liyuce> 桌面环境：XFCE
[05:14] <liyuce> qrc:/UI/image.qml:143: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: myimage
[05:14] <liyuce> qrc:/UI/image.qml:119: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: myimage
[05:14] <liyuce> qrc:/UI/DetailForm.qml:88: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: tagsmodel
[05:14] <liyuce> qrc:/UI/DetailForm.qml:56: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: kvmodel
[05:14] <liyuce> qrc:/UI/DetailForm.qml:39: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: detailtitle
[05:14] <liyuce> qrc:/UI/imagelist.qml:10: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: datamodel
[05:14] <liyuce> 1280
[05:14] <liyuce> Segmentation fault
[05:18] <Unit193> Contact the author, and please put pastes in pastebin.com
[05:26] <liyuce> I dont
[05:27] <liyuce> I don't know what the different between 13.04 and 12.04, because I can successfully run it on 12.04, so I'm asking here~
[05:29] <liyuce> Anyway, thanks for your reply~
[05:50] <xubuntu329> hello xubundu friends
[05:51] <xubuntu329> can someone help me how to connect my xubundu machine on a domain controller network on windows server 2003?
[05:52] <xubuntu329> the best help for me will be a guide for noods (if there is any)
[06:08] <xubuntu329> can someone help me how to connect my xubundu machine on a domain controller network on windows server 2003?
[06:10] <Unit193> Well, I think you can use centrifydc, no?  It's in the partner repos.
[06:10] <Unit193> !ad
[06:12] <xubuntu329> i give a try to this link
[06:12] <xubuntu329> thank you ubottu
[06:12] <xubuntu329> what is partner repos?
[06:13] <xubuntu329> Unit193 i suppose centrifydc is a program for xubundu?
[06:13] <Unit193> Yeah, more or less.
[06:13] <Unit193> !partner
[06:13] <xubuntu329> i forgot to tell you that i'm noob
[06:14] <xubuntu329> oh , i see.... every thing on terminal! :P
[06:14] <xubuntu329> i'll give a try on that too
[06:14] <xubuntu329> thank you
[06:14] <Unit193> You can also open software sources, but so much easier to tell you to copy and paste. :P
[06:15] <xubuntu329> so i'll copy-paste this on my terminal and .... ?
[06:28] <xubuntu329> thank you guys for your help
[08:32] <flaviuscorhei> Hello. Using my phone to ask questions... I installed 12.04 and could not use qualcomm 3g modem. Please help. Thx
[08:32] <cub> !qualcom
[08:33] <flaviuscorhei> Yes
[08:33] <flaviuscorhei> Qualcomm
[08:33] <flaviuscorhei> Huawei
[08:34] <flaviuscorhei> Remote area. No access to high speed net
[08:36] <cub> flaviuscorhei, I was hoping there was some information already in the ubottu, but it wasn't.
[08:37] <flaviuscorhei> I checked net and came here. Thx.
[08:37] <flaviuscorhei> I am not t total newbie.
[08:37] <flaviuscorhei> Can u help pls?
[08:38] <flaviuscorhei> Lsusb id i have. Bus1 dev5
[08:38] <cub> No I have no experience of qualcom.
[08:39] <flaviuscorhei> Thx cub. Can you suggest whrre to look ?
[08:42] <cub> No hang around here and someone else might help you.
[09:37] <flaviuscorhei> Hello. Anyone can help with qualcomm 3g usb ! Yhx.
[09:50] <timbermaniac> Hey guys. My network manager (connection info) shows the correct DNS server entries, yet whenever I run dig or even try to resolve in Firefox, it's not using these servers. Looks to only be using root servers. Any clue?
[10:53] <flavcor> Hello. Anyone familiar with 3g quallcom usb modem? Does not work. Thanks
[11:38] <xubuntu265> How can i use a new memorycard ? I think i need to format it in linux some way but how ? i get a message the media is read only.
[11:40] <TheSheep> xubuntu265: there is a switch on the side of the card
[11:40] <TheSheep> xubuntu265: switch it
[11:52] <xubuntu610> it is me with the memory card. can not copy and paste anything.
[11:53] <xubuntu610> and the stupid mousepad stoping sometimes so i need to restart to use it.
[11:54] <TheSheep> install powertop and disable power management for the touchpad
[11:54] <TheSheep> that should help
[11:55] <xubuntu610> why is it not possible to copy or paste anything ?
[11:56] <xubuntu610> and even with the switch turend of it is read only on the memorycard.
[11:59] <TheSheep> xubuntu610: what does dmesg say?
[12:01] <xubuntu610> first of all i can not paste it dont working. when i try send to i get this:  Error while copying to "9016-4EF8".
[12:01] <xubuntu610> this message i cud copy and paste.
[12:01] <TheSheep> it should have some details below it
[12:02] <xubuntu610> The destination is read-only.
[12:02] <xubuntu610> that is all
[12:03] <TheSheep> well, is the card switched to read-only?
[12:04] <xubuntu610> i have try both positions.
[12:05] <TheSheep> any relevant messages in dmesg?
[12:06] <xubuntu610> it is mounted but read only.
[12:08] <xubuntu610> do i need to format it some ways ?
[12:09] <xubuntu610> how can i format it ?
[12:09] <bgardner> xubuntu610: Please read the support questions - TheSheep has twice asked you about dmesg, that should be your next step.
[12:09] <xubuntu610> dmesg ?
[12:09] <xubuntu610> i dont know what dmesg is.
[12:10] <bgardner> xubuntu610: Open a terminal and type 'dmesg | pastebinit' and give us the URL it hands back to you.
[13:55] <lokote_jones> Xubuntu said it could "auto install" my OS. Well, it installed a MBR on my media hard drive and now I can't get my files. I am about to pay $40 to get some software to recover my files.  README?  We don't read no stinking README!"
[13:58] <lokote_jones> TheSheep: I had backed up the drive about 35 gigs ago (which is relatively short for me)... so I thought "well; this will be fine... I have installed debian millions of timeswith no problem"
[13:58] <TheSheep> lokote_jones: just teasing, sorry
[13:58] <lokote_jones> But now I want my 35 gigs back. =( cfhowlett: I tried TestDisk, Fdisk, Chkdsk.
[13:59] <lokote_jones> TheSheep: It's ok. I'm just suffering from kilo-tons of butthurt right now. =(
[13:59] <cfhowlett> lokote_jones, if those files were overwritten for formatting they're gone ... or so I understand.
[14:01] <lokote_jones> It appears Xubuntu thought it was helping by taking my entire 1tb NTFS partition and turning it into a MBR. The files are safe and sound; just have to use this disk recovery software I have to pay for cuz the open source stuff didn't work. But I did the free trial; got some test files back; and now I get to go from there.
[14:02] <lokote_jones> I'm going to write up a blog post on it when all is said and done. TestDisk took 4 hours and 30 minutes to "analyze" the drive. Then it came back and said "Nope; I dunno what to do." lol....
[14:03] <bipolar> lokote_jones, something doesn't make sense to me... the MBR isn't really a partition. Did Xubuntu format and mount a /boot partition there?
[14:04] <lokote_jones> bipolar: I'm not sure. Let me type up exactly what occurred ---
[14:05] <lokote_jones> 1. I used a usb drive to boot into a install ISO for Xubuntu. It said that it recognized that I had Lubuntu and asked if it could just replace it. I agreed. The installation began. After the installion was completed the computer wouldn't boot. I moved to BIOS, changed the "boot drive" from my SSD to my media drive. The computer booted. I tried to mount my media drive. It refused to mount. At some point one of these tools said my entire media drive wa
[14:06] <lokote_jones> 2. I reinsted the drive into the xubuntu machine. ran all the different ubuntu recovery tools. none worked.
[14:06] <lokote_jones> 3. got the drive back out, brought it to work, and tried one of the recovery tools we have here. It got me 3 files and said if i want the rest I can pay 39.99.
[14:06] <lokote_jones> 4. ??? 5. profit?
[14:07] <lokote_jones> That's the whole story give or take all the cussing and such.
[14:08] <bipolar> Was the media drive in a lower numbered sata port or something? That's kindof strange. Did you get a grub menu when booting from the ssd?
[14:09] <bipolar> your step 1 got cut off... what did it say when you tried to mount it?
[14:09] <lokote_jones> bipolar: I did not. The SSD was marked as /dev/sda and the media drive was /dev/sdb if that helps.
[14:09] <bipolar> :\
[14:09] <lokote_jones> bipolar: I got an error in which it returned a non-zero error of 12. It stated my drive had an issue with the size.
[14:10] <cfhowlett> lokote_jones, working with multiple destinations is definitely an advanced user level task best performed manually and NOT left to the ubuntu installer script.
[14:10] <bipolar> Sounds like the partition table got fubar'ed
[14:10] <lokote_jones> All I wanted it to do was install everything to the SSD, like lubuntu did, and not touch my media drive. I have since removed all hard drives from the computer and mounted htem into USB cases. From now on; I wont use linux with more than one Hard drive.
[14:11] <lokote_jones> The SSD is all that will sit in that box from now on.
[14:11] <bipolar> lokote_jones, just unplug the extra drives when you do an install.
[14:11] <bipolar> I mean internally... disconnect the sata cable.
[14:12] <lokote_jones> Just so I don't sound like I dislike xubuntu, which I really do like, I would like to say that xubuntu did something new I have never seen before. My HDMI video card now pushes sound out of my television. that is super neato. But every thing else is a tremendous anger-factory.
[15:01] <lokote_jones> Can Xubuntu be installed on a computer that uses an ATI radeon hd3200 video card? Still get video acceleration? Any hardware lists for xubuntu?
[15:04] <Myrtti> !hwl | lokote_jones
[15:04] <Myrtti> meh
[15:04] <Myrtti> !hcl
[15:04] <Myrtti> there!
[15:04] <Myrtti>  dunno how up to date it is though
[15:09] <knozzle> Would someone possibly know about any available documentation about modifying the look and feel of the splash screen presenting when entering the passphrase on an out-of-the-box encrypted installation?
[15:26] <manufort> bjr je viens d'installer xubuntu  mais j'ai  un probleme avec flash player
[15:27] <Kaapa> guys, I have a problem with (I think) gtk themes
[15:27] <Kaapa> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08272013-040624pm.php
[15:27] <Kaapa> that's gitg, one of the apps that exibith that behavior
[15:27] <Kaapa> I have no clue where that black stuff comes from
[15:28] <manufort> how install flash player for firefox please
[15:29] <Silver_Arrow> manufort: Did you install the restricted extras package?
[15:29] <manufort> how that?
[15:31] <GridCube> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:31] <manufort> thinks
[15:33] <manufort> it's possible to drive xubuntu with my smartphone
[15:33] <manufort> ?
[15:35] <manufort> and for change the resolution ?
[16:22] <xubuntu763> Is there someone of whom I may ask a question about xubuntu?
[16:23] <elfy> !ask
[16:24] <xubuntu763> Alrighty, then. I'm using xubuntu, but having some problems with screensavers, suspend and the like. The system locks-up or logs me out with annoying frequency. I've removed xscsreensaver which seemed to be the problem, but it is pretty shaky. Any ideas how to fix this?
[16:40] <xubuntu763> Perhaps it will help if I specify that I'm using xubuntu 15 (Olivia) xfce x64. I've got 8 - 4 Ghz cores and tons of ram. I also run XP Pro in a virtualbox vm.
[16:41] <rjdohnert_> No you are not using Xubuntu, you are using Linux Mint
[16:42] <bazhang> !mintsupport | xubuntu763
[16:43] <rjdohnert_> The only alternative distribution that I know of thats based on Xubuntu is OS/4 OpenLinux, http://www.os4online.com
[16:43] <xubuntu763> I got here through the xchat support link on xubuntu and, trust me, that is the os i am running.
[16:43] <rjdohnert_> They use the same repos as Xubuntu
[16:44] <rjdohnert_> Thats because they base the repositories on Xubuntus, but its not Xubuntu
[16:44] <xubuntu763> i was running Mint, but took it off and reloaded xubuntu.
[16:45] <rjdohnert_> There is no Xubuntu 15 though
[16:48] <Isolol> Attempting to dual boot install xubuntu and win7 (which is already on, I shrunk a partition already), I was following http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/2/ as a guide, and was curious if I could just skip the / and /home as separate paritions and just make the / partition
[16:49] <rjdohnert_> Yes you can
[16:49] <Isolol> Thanks.
[16:49] <Isolol> Also, should I really use 4gb swap? That seems a bit excessive when my Linode only has 256MB
[16:51] <rjdohnert_> The installer bases the amount of swap on RAM thats availbale to the machine, you can lower it if you want though
[16:52] <Isolol> The guide said to use 4gb of swap. I don't know what a good amount to have for it is I use 16GB RAM currently.
[16:52] <sfarber53> Are there any known problem with screen savers and/or suspend in Xubuntu x64 13.04?
[16:53] <rjdohnert_> With 16gb of RAM you really dont need swap
[16:54] <Isolol> Alright, thanks for the info.
[16:54] <rjdohnert_> Unless you think you will run out of RAM
[16:54] <Isolol> I would hope not o.O
[17:00] <Isolol> permission denied to create directory 'root/.cache/dconf' dconf will not work properly
[17:01] <Isolol> just spammed my installer window, not sure what to do about that
[17:01] <GridCube> what you tried to do?
[17:02] <Isolol> I was installing xubuntu alongside win7, using the guide above.
[17:02] <GridCube> standard aplications should not be able to create folders on /root
[17:02] <Isolol> This is during fresh install.
[17:02] <GridCube> ok
[17:02] <GridCube> Isolol, why dont you just choose "install alongside windows" from the installer?
[17:03] <Isolol> I'd rather not have windows and linux fighting over the MBP
[17:03] <GridCube> they will
[17:03] <Isolol> I created a separate /boot partition for xubuntu
[17:03] <GridCube> you have to replace the windows mbr with grub in order to boot one or the other anyway
[17:42] <aguitel> how install jockey-gtk
[17:45] <GridCube> sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk
[17:46] <GridCube> but you dont need it
[17:46] <aguitel> no abre che
[17:46] <GridCube> its integrated to the last tab of the application sources menu in the ubuntu-software-center, and you can access it in the aditional drivers option on the menu
[17:46] <aguitel> a ok
[17:47] <GridCube> on the setting menu
[17:47] <GridCube> P: 'sup aguitel
[17:49] <aguitel> GridCube, tell me a good theme for xfce
[17:51] <GridCube> i like greybird, albatross and mediterranean
[17:52] <aguitel> need to add ppa or install from normal repos?
[17:52] <GridCube> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/mediterraneannight-gtk36-theme-pack.html
[17:53] <GridCube> greybird and albatross are default, mediterranean is on the webupd8 ppa
[17:53] <GridCube> http://i.imgur.com/dEtxS07.png
[17:54] <aguitel> the first link work in xfce?
[17:54] <GridCube> yep, see my screenshot
[17:54] <aguitel> ok gracias
[17:54] <GridCube> de nada
[17:59] <syre> hey guys, is there any commandline way of autostarting XBMC when the X-server starts up? like .xinitrc or .xprofile? I'm coming from arch and that's the way to do it there
[18:18] <lokote_jones> Would it be considered rude or appropriate when making a support request to do so in the ubuntu forums and then post a link to the question here with a short synopsis?
[18:31] <GridCube> lokote_jones, if you do that to post most of the information its ok
[18:32] <GridCube> but if you get a solution in this channel or any other you should update the forum thread with the solution and mark it solved
[18:33] <GridCube> what is not correct is for you to cross post trhough irc channels
[18:34] <knome> or any communication methods at the same time, without giving people time to respond, really.
[18:34] <GridCube> true that
[18:34] <didier> Hello I'm try to install xubuntu 13 on my usb drive but the installation program only allow me to install on /sda. How can I use another drive ?
[18:35] <knome> didier, there is no xubuntu 13. i assume you are referring to 13.04 ?
[18:35] <GridCube> didier, when choosing how to install go to the manual partitioning and choose a different target fo /
[18:35] <didier> yes
[18:36] <didier> GridCube: I just have the /sda
[18:36] <GridCube> then your usb is not being properly recognized, i sugest you to retry with the usb drive in a different port
[18:37] <GridCube> you can choose to go to a live session previous to try to install and make sure the usb drive is being recognized
[18:37] <didier> GridCube: But I am on the live session on my usb
[18:38] <didier> GridCube: Do I need to use 1 usb for the live session and another one to install ?
[18:38] <elfy> yes
[18:38] <GridCube> yes
[18:38] <didier> Ok
[18:38] <didier> Thanks
[18:38] <GridCube> or at least a partition in the usb drive
[18:38] <GridCube> i guess
[18:39] <didier> Thanks I try
[18:39] <elfy> and you need to make sure that grub is installed in the right place
[18:40] <lokote_jones> GridCube: Thanks. And I assumed as much but I am not entirely familiar with IRC standards of behavior. So I thought it was best to find out. I would prefer to do both since it gives a chance for others to google and find the solution if I document it in that manner. Thanks!
[18:41] <GridCube> lokote_jones, if you do it here it gets logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[18:41] <GridCube> and is searchable
[18:42] <lokote_jones> GridCube: Did not know that. Thanks for the link!
[18:47] <lokote_jones> Earlier I posted asking if the Radeon HD3200 is supported by Linux... http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx That is the link to the driver for that video card. Just incase. <Issue solved lol :3>
[19:40] <xubuntu804> Can not go online with xubuntu 12.10
[19:55] <ali1234> right, i'm on the xubuntu daily live image. the sound indicator doesn't work, but the keyboard controls do finally...
[19:56] <knome> ali1234, if you wish to help with xubuntu testing, you should report the results on the ISO tracker, not on this channel
[19:57] <ali1234> where's that?
[19:57] <knome> ali1234, /join #xubuntu-devel and we can chat more about that
[19:57] <ali1234> incidentally, it doesn't work on the release either :P
[19:57] <ali1234> i'm already there
[20:00] <idodeisuke> how do i let the screensaver show a certain picture only instead of an actual screensaver?
[20:06] <didier> Cool it works :)
[20:42] <olbi_> who is admin of xubuntu.org website?
[20:43] <knome> olbi_, i am one. what's the issue?
[21:28] <xubuntu409> hi
[21:29] <xubuntu409> is there anyone
[21:29] <knome> !anyone | xubuntu409
[21:29] <xubuntu409> I am unable to boot cd
[21:31] <xubuntu409> In Ubuntu there was a program Wubi which starts installation, what file does xubuntu have which starts installation
[21:32] <knome> xubuntu does not have wubi; you can't start the installation from windows.
[21:32] <xubuntu409> ok, but cd doesn't boot, I thought that installation file is missing
[21:32] <knome> what is the error you are getting?
[21:32] <xubuntu409> DMI pool checking Data
[21:34] <knome> did you check the md5 sum for the iso?
[21:34] <knome> !md5 | xubuntu409
[21:34] <knome> it might be your CD is burnt incorrectly because of problems in downloading or something else
[21:38] <xubuntu409> says md5 check somes are different
[21:39] <knome> in that case the downloaded file is faulty
[21:43] <xubuntu409> MD5 Sum column shows alfa numeric numbers but Compare column is blank, I pressed compare & message popped , md5 check some are different, did I do it right?
[21:47] <xubuntu409> Do I have to download it again?
[21:52] <GridCube> yes
[21:53] <knome> GridCube, he's gone
[21:53] <GridCube> lol, ok
[21:57] <ali1234> this is great :)
[21:57] <ali1234> font rendering is finally fixed :)
[21:58] <ali1234> and there are nice themes
[22:26] <Monkeytoe> has anyone purchased a wireless adapter recently that was fully supported by linux?
[22:32] <Monkeytoe> looking at this on wiki.debian.com
[22:32] <Monkeytoe> USB: 0846:9010 NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100v1 802.11abgn [Atheros AR9170+AR9104]
[22:32] <Monkeytoe> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/N300+Wireless-N+USB+Adapter/9928575.p?id=1218196479078&skuId=9928575&st=WNA1000&cp=1&lp=6
[22:32] <Monkeytoe> is that the same one you think? That is in stock
[23:21] <genii> Most Atheros work great


[11:27] <tgpraveen1> in karmic in guest session, there is no way to use networkmanager? sudo does not work with it. and I can't run it as it
[11:27] <tgpraveen1> says only root can run it :-(
[13:09] <mac_v> dobey: ping ;)
[13:11] <mac_v> dobey: in case, you hadnt noticed i'v filed Bug 463802 , [just a tiny reminder] ;p  or do you want me to assign it to you?
[15:30] <mac_v> tgpraveen1: the nm is a known bug
[15:31] <mac_v> tgpraveen1: its been there for a very long time
[19:11] <crevette> hello


[02:47] <Unit193> You knokw you can select the servers? ;)
[02:49] <jrgifford> Unit193: heh
[02:49]  * Unit193 couldn't really help it
[02:51] <jrgifford> Unit193: well, now that i've figured out what was going on with the trekweb ZNC, i'm happier.
[02:51] <Unit193> Something was up? And I take it you like that one rather well?
[02:52] <jrgifford> i wasn't able to figure out what was going on with scrollback
[02:52] <jrgifford> but i figured out that the default is 0
[02:52] <jrgifford> and i want something more like 100+
[02:52] <Unit193> AH!
[02:54] <Unit193> scrollback_lines = 500 (in irssi though)
[06:23] <Cheri703> Trike arrived today :D haven't fully assembled it yet because I'm putting a rust protection coating on the inside of the frame, but should be dry by tomorrow evening, and definitely rideable by wednesday :)
[06:23] <Unit193> Great! No more riding a bike to work, now it's a trike!
[06:45] <Cheri703> exactly!
[06:46] <Cheri703> I had my first/only/last wipe-out on the bike the other day...was fine coming home from work in the storm, heading out the next day, the bike slid out horizontally from under me
[06:46] <Cheri703> busted up my knee, been driving the last few days :(
[06:47] <Unit193> Eh, that doesn't sound good, but at least no cars hit. Is the trike more enclosed or faster?
[06:47] <Cheri703> uhm, not really either? more stable
[06:47] <Cheri703> and will have studded tires on it
[06:47] <Cheri703> may end up faster, but we'll see
[06:48] <Unit193> Alrighty, less slipping
[06:48] <Cheri703> yeah, exactly
[06:50] <Cheri703> I wish I could have ridden it immediately, but it is worth it to me to protect from salty roads, really don't need to have it rust out after one winter or something
[06:54] <Cheri703> I am trying to decide if I'll be able to fall asleep soon, of if it'd be better to just stay up til/past 8am...
[06:55] <Cheri703> landlord is coming to fix our furnace
[06:55] <Cheri703> it hasn't been working since sometime last night
[06:56] <Unit193> 8am is almost doable
[06:57] <Cheri703> yeah, only issue is if they have to leave and come back...AND even if I got in bed now, I probably wouldn't fall asleep for at least 30 minutes, which would mean ~5 hours of sleep maximum, and that isn't always great...HOWEVER, I have a bunch of stuff I want to accomplish tomorrow, and sleeping in the middle of the day won't help that :/
[06:58] <Unit193> I'd say get as much sleep as you can at this point, that will help some
[06:59] <Cheri703> yeah, but it's at least 2 hours before my "normal" bedtime...
[06:59] <Cheri703> that's the tough part
[06:59] <Cheri703> going to watch castle then try to sleep I think
[06:59] <Unit193> Ah, that'd be a little bit of a killer
[06:59] <Unit193> Was thinking of watching that actually
[07:02] <Cheri703> good show :)
[07:02] <Cheri703> I like that there have been numerous references to nathan fillion's past works ;)
[07:04] <Unit193> Rather, and that's what I'm also watching
[12:52] <Cheri703> so I ended up not going to sleep >.> tried to, didn't work. I just made the mistake of going into my WARM bedroom (space heater is in there, rest of the house is cold) and now my body is crying out for bed :/ aaand landlord should be arriving in the next 10 minutes -_-
[16:53] <MarkDude> paultag, ping
[16:54] <paultag> MarkDude: pong
[16:54] <MarkDude> Soooooo,
[16:54] <MarkDude> You going to try to help Oregon Team get approved
[16:54] <MarkDude> ?
[16:55] <jandrusk> You mean Oregon finally exceeed 50 for population?
[16:55]  * MarkDude wants to make sure his last major part of Ubuntu is a thing of history
[16:56] <MarkDude> lol jandrusk
[16:56] <jandrusk> lol
[16:56] <MarkDude> LET ME LEAVE IN A GOOD WAY........................................................
[16:57]  * MarkDude hopes Oregton has pass to be approved
[16:59] <jandrusk> What are the requirements to get approved?
[17:00]  * MarkDude does not care
[17:00] <MarkDude> OR should be approved
[17:00] <MarkDude> If the pre 2011 stuff is needed for approval
[17:00] <MarkDude> Will get reather ugly
[17:00] <MarkDude> rather that is
[17:02] <jandrusk> hmmm
[17:04] <paultag> ah, I missed this until now
[17:04] <paultag> you should ping me :)
[17:11]  * jrgifford facepalms
[17:11] <jrgifford> sorry paultag, completely forgot about sending an email to RTA.
[17:11] <jrgifford> i'll go write that now.
[17:12] <paultag> jrgifford: you rock my socks
[17:12] <paultag> jrgifford: feel free to CC me :)
[17:12] <paultag> I'd like to know about it, perhaps I can adapt python-charlie to the RTA as well
[17:12] <jrgifford> also, jandrusk - i'm ashamed to know you, YOU KLOUT USER!!! ;D
[17:12] <jrgifford> ok, will do paultag.
[17:13] <paultag> jrgifford: ^5
[17:15] <jandrusk> :(
[17:15] <jandrusk> Nobody's perfect.
[17:15] <jrgifford> haha I know. was just giving you a hard time. ;)
[17:20] <jandrusk> That's alright. I just sploited your box and planted a "Pass SOPA" bot on your system.
[17:22] <jandrusk> Resistance is futile.
[17:23] <jandrusk> You will be assimilated into the BORG consciousness.
[17:27] <jrgifford> ... oops
[17:28] <jrgifford> just sent it to you paultag.
[17:28] <paultag> jrgifford: got it & read :)
[17:28] <paultag> thanks, man!
[17:28] <jrgifford> no problem. :)
[17:43] <MarkDude> Well approval should be straight forawrd
[17:44] <MarkDude> No drama needed
[18:36] <jrgifford> well that wasn't a bad email from RTA.
[18:37] <jrgifford> standard "don't use our logo bro" stuff.
[18:49] <paultag> jrgifford: it's meh
[18:50] <paultag> I don't like that they're not exposing some of that data
[18:50] <jrgifford> relax Mr. Open Government. All in due time.  :P
[18:56] <paultag> :)
[19:00] <dzho> is that all bus, or does cleveland have any light rail to speak of?
[19:00] <paultag> dzho: yeah, CLE has a nice rail system, actually
[19:00]  * dzho was just noticing that Charlotte has a trolly+LYNX line
[19:00] <paultag> that's what I was into, actually
[19:00] <dzho> paultag: is that under RTA or someone else?
[19:00] <paultag> dzho: yeah, RTA
[19:00] <dzho> oh, fun.
[19:01] <paultag> green red and blue lines
[19:01] <paultag> waterfront is blue
[19:01] <paultag> then green goes out to the east side
[19:01] <paultag> and red goes out to the west side
[19:01] <paultag> they all meet at tower city IIRC
[19:02] <paultag> BRB
[19:03] <dzho> sweet


[03:17] <slangasek> hmm, cute, I have no ssh agent running now with hardy
[03:24] <slangasek> oh, ffs, why is gnome-keyring-daemon pretending to be ssh-agent?
[03:34] <Fujitsu> slangasek: Because it's a shiny new feature that appeared a few days back.
[03:34] <slangasek> it's not working very well
[03:34] <Fujitsu> What's it not doing?
[03:34] <slangasek> it's not accepting attempts to add ssh keys with ssh-add
[03:35] <Fujitsu> You might have to use g-k-m or so, but that sounds wrong.
[03:36] <slangasek> yes, that would be a regression
[03:59] <Robot101> does the installer grok dmraid these days?
[03:59] <Robot101> I just had to help a friend reassemble his hpt370 raid array with dmraid/hd/dd/beav and a copy of hpt37x.h
[04:00] <Robot101> because ubiquity decided installing grub on one of the constituent drives would be a good plan
[04:00] <Robot101> (even though he was installing onto one of the system's other disks)
[04:01] <Robot101> there are a few related bugs in launchpad already, but this seems like a rather nasty failure case - even if we don't support installing to dmraid devices, surely destroying them is something worth avoiding?
[04:38] <lamont> infinity: a clue:
[04:38] <lamont> Dec 15 02:21:11 j6700 kernel: [1398423.164000] dash.postrm(17754): unaligned access to 0x0002be5d at ip=0x00015127
[04:38] <lamont> Dec 15 02:21:11 j6700 kernel: [1398423.164000] dash.postrm(17754): unaligned access to 0x0002be61 at ip=0x00015127
[04:38] <lamont> that's on an hppa box.
[04:38] <lamont> so yeah.
[06:28] <slangasek> lamont: that should be fixed by now in ubuntu2?
[06:29] <slangasek> lamont: so just upgrading the chroot should do the trick for dash
[09:05] <warp10> Hi all
[15:37] <so1> hi
[15:37] <so1> just wanted to ask if soprano will be updated again, because the version in ubuntu is to old to compile kde4 with it ...
[15:38] <lamont> slangasek: coolness
[15:38]  * lamont will freshen the local mirror
[15:38] <so1> atm we have 1.99~rc2 in there, but 1.99 is needed
[15:53] <so1> someone?
[16:11] <Adri2000> so1: is there a bug filed about it? is it tagged appropriately? (tag 'upgrade')
[16:13] <so1> ah uh ...
[16:13] <so1> don't know
[16:17] <Adri2000> so1: you should do that and/or ask nixternal if he intends to do this update, as he uploaded 1.99~rc2
[16:18] <so1> ah ok
[16:41] <nixternal> so1: soprano's latest is 1.99~rc2..check out their sourceforge downloads
[16:42] <nixternal> I just grabbed it yesterday or the day before so I can rebuild kde4 on my new desktop, and it works just fine
[16:52] <so1> ah ok ...
[18:30] <chantra> hey there, I have uploaded 2 debdiff to bug #145458 , what should I do to have it reviewed?
[18:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 145458 in evolution "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in camel_object_cast()" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145458
[18:31] <chantra> it is just a merge of patches found at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474118
[18:31] <ubotu> Gnome bug 474118 in Mailer "Evolution crashed : clicked on 'dowload message for offline' option" [Critical,New]
[18:31] <somerville32> !dev | chantra
[18:31] <ubotu> chantra: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[18:36] <chantra> cheers somerville32
[18:36] <somerville32> :)
[18:37] <chantra> well, I guest I have to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates section "How"
[18:42] <LaserJock> chantra: you're wanting the fix in stable release?
[18:45] <chantra> LaserJock: not personnaly, the patch was submitted upstream, I just merged it
[18:46] <chantra> if the debdiffs could be reviewed, I will make evolution's 'dowload message for offline' option work again
[18:46] <LaserJock> chantra: right, I'm just wondering if you are wanting it fixed in Hardy or Hardy+stable releases like Gutsy
[18:47] <chantra> gutsy, it is happening in gutsy, I haven't tested it on hardy
[18:48] <chantra> simple to repro though. Open evolution, go to file->download for offline
[18:48] <chantra> and evolution dies
[18:48] <LaserJock> that's not very nice is it
[18:48] <LaserJock> :-)
[18:48] <LaserJock> chantra: hmm, worked fine here
[18:50] <chantra> LaserJock: hardy ?
[18:50] <LaserJock> gutsy
[18:50] <chantra> :s
[18:51] <chantra> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474118 + Bug #145458
[18:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 145458 in evolution "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in camel_object_cast()" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145458
[18:51] <chantra> well, gotta go
[18:51] <chantra> by guys
[22:26]  * calc kicks ooo, need to do 18 MIR
[22:27] <persia> calc: Just out of curiostity, are oooqs and related items still useful for Ubuntu?  The were dropped from Debian in the last cycle.
[22:32] <calc> oooqs2-kde?
[22:32] <calc> or something else?
[22:33] <persia> calc: There's also a gnome one.
[22:34] <persia> Err.  Nevermind.  It's gone now (or I misread rmadison output earlier)
[22:35] <calc> persia: no idea about if its useful or not
[22:35] <calc> i've never used the kde one and didn't see the gnome one in the past
[22:35] <persia> calc: It was a preloader for OOo.


[03:27] <c2tarun> hi :)
[03:38] <yuriy> ScottK: unfortunately perhaps the one thing I don't like about my current work situation is I can't stand to spend my remaining free hours on computer tasks
[03:38] <yuriy> ScottK: though if I did get back to open source work (outside of work) translations probably wouldn't be my first priority
[03:38] <ScottK> yuriy: Sure.  I can understand how that might be.  No problem.  If you know any Russian translators looking for a project in need, please pass it on.
[03:41] <yuriy> though you certainly have a point.  one of the reasons I chose to install Ubuntu on my grandpa's computer was that I was worried about the translations
[03:41] <yuriy> though now that I've used it a bit I think it doesn't matter because computer terms just sound ridiculous in russian anyway
[04:19] <c2tarun> yofel: ping
[07:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: rekonq is the utter broken
[07:55] <apachelogger> constantly locks up on me
[09:03] <bambee> morning :)
[09:04] <Riddell> hola bambee
[09:07]  * tazz yawns
[09:12]  * yofel hands tazz some coffee
[09:13]  * tazz thanks yofel, and pats him on the back.
[09:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hmm, tab bar still doesn't redraw on rekonq :(
[09:28] <afiestas> I'm registering at uds, I don't really know what to choose at: Who is your attendance requested by?
[09:28] <afiestas> Canonical I guess?
[09:29] <Riddell> afiestas: Kubuntu!
[09:30] <afiestas> Riddell: Kubuntu is not in the list
[09:30] <afiestas> I can choose "Other"
[09:30] <afiestas> Other and then Kubuntu :o?
[09:32] <Riddell> "I agree to the video agreement (optional):"  "This field is required."  who made this thing?
[09:32] <Riddell> afiestas: where does it ask  Who is your attendance requested by?#
[09:32] <afiestas> https://forms.canonical.com/udsreg/
[09:33] <Riddell> oh, not the sponsorship form? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/sponsorship/
[09:35] <afiestas> I thought I had to fill both forms
[09:36] <valorie> I think the other one is for canonical employees
[09:39] <Riddell> afiestas: I wouldn't worry about that registration form, I don't know what it's for, the sponsorship is the important one (assuming you'd rather have your attendance paid for and not pay for it yourself)
[09:39] <debfx> interesting, lib6-dbg and eglibc-source are on the livecd
[09:40] <afiestas> Riddell: ookz
[10:30] <bambee> Riddell: plasma-widget-networkmanagement still needs testing  ?
[10:31] <Riddell> bambee: yes please!
[10:31] <Riddell> in ppa:jr
[10:31] <bambee> Riddell: ok ;)
[10:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah we are still testing the patch out before actually commiting it
[10:36] <agateau> hey, got this weird error with kubuntu-default-settings during this morning update:
[10:36] <agateau> http://paste.ubuntu.com/583734/
[10:37] <agateau> does this ring a bell to someone?
[10:37] <debfx> agateau: yes
[10:38] <debfx> kirkland probably forgot to upload newt
[10:41]  * shadeslayer is still confused about DBus
[10:53] <agateau> debfx: should I file a bug report | ping kirkland?
[10:53] <debfx> agateau: no, I've already pinged him
[10:53] <agateau> debfx: great, thanks!
[11:29] <fregl> Riddell: thanks, I'll update the headers
[11:51] <Riddell> I wonder if I should be worried that bambee hasn't reappeared since testing network manager plasmoid
[11:51] <shadeslayer> lol
[11:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: probably
[11:54] <Riddell> debfx: bug 740124
[13:31] <bambee> Riddell: plasma-widget-networkmanager works just fine here
[13:32] <bambee> I tested it with different networks (wired and wireless) it works
[13:33] <bambee> "<hidden network>"  is a new feature ?
[13:35] <yofel> I've seen that hidden network here too, not sure what it's supposed to be (form to connect to hidden SSID? wasn't that broken?)
[13:37] <yofel> as for the mobile part - it fetches the information from m-b-i fine here and set's up the connection settings. The connection itself fails though. From syslog I assume it's a modem-manager issue in my case. wvdial works fine though
[13:39] <Riddell> bambee: oh phew, I was getting worried when you hadn't appeared back online :)
[13:40] <bambee> Riddell: no don't worry , I've homeworks to do, so I was offline ;)
[14:01] <Riddell> bambee, yofel: uploading p-w-networkmanagement then, thanks for testing
[14:01] <bambee> yw :)
[14:02] <stefan`> hi guys
[14:02] <stefan`> i use natty and the new kubuntu-default-settings gives me the following eeror:
[14:03] <stefan`> Setting up kubuntu-default-settings (1:11.04ubuntu8) ...
[14:03] <stefan`> update-alternatives: error: alternative /etc/newt/palette.original for newt-palette not registered, not setting.
[14:03] <Riddell> stefan`: known bug
[14:03] <stefan`> i hope i'm not the
[14:03] <Riddell> fix in progress
[14:03] <stefan`> sorry ;)
[14:03] <stefan`> thanks!
[15:18] <debfx> so are we going to use the new or old terminal color scheme?
[15:19] <debfx> http://bit.ly/fvm16s vs. http://bit.ly/dRF9yi
[15:22] <debfx> imho we should use the new one
[15:23] <yofel> the new one looks nicer, but isn't that grey a bit too bright?
[15:23] <yofel> overall I'm for the new one though
[15:24] <debfx> yofel: I think that was fixed: "Design team wanted a slightly different grey; more contrast when white on grey"
[15:24] <yofel> ah, then great :)
[15:35] <Riddell> debfx: if we're going to use the design team's colour choice we may as well use the up to date version surely?
[15:36] <debfx> Riddell: yes, sure. I just don't have an updated screenshot
[15:42] <shadeslayer> debfx: the new one looks better
[15:45] <janimo> what is CONFIG *= option in qmake .pro files and how is it different from += ? I could not find any reference to it via google
[15:50] <shadeslayer> janimo: probably ask in #qt ?
[15:50] <Riddell> janimo: I've never used qmake so I couldn't say
[15:50] <Riddell> as shadeslayer says
[15:50] <Riddell> generally if you have to start adding any config options qmake isn't the best build system for the job
[15:51] <shadeslayer> ^^ true .. but CMake doesn't make the job any easier
[15:51] <janimo> Riddell, I was reading debian/rules which has these constructs. I'll ask in qt, thanks
[15:52] <Riddell> janimo: for Qt itself or something else?
[15:52] <janimo> Riddell, no, mumble. It uses Qt
[15:52] <debfx> janimo: I think *= doesn't add duplicates
[15:52] <janimo> debfx, ah, that seems sensible. Altough I wonder why would duplicates hurt.
[15:53] <janimo> I'll use += for the option I am adding but wanted to make sure I don't overlook something
[15:54] <janimo> debfx, you're right. pointed to http://doc.trolltech.com/latest/qmake-advanced-usage.html from #qt
[15:54] <janimo> thanks
[15:55] <Mithrandir_> Hello
[15:55] <Mithrandir_> Just wanted to know if the Alha 3 for Kubuntu was usable
[15:55] <yofel> Mithrandir_: works quite fine for me
[15:56] <claydoh> Mithrandir_: same here, try a livecd and check it out :)
[15:56] <yofel> note that it's still aplha though
[15:56] <Mithrandir_> Yes just wanted to know if it booted
[15:57] <Riddell> boots good on i386 and amd64, less sure about arm or other arches
[15:58] <Mithrandir_> has there been any improvements that are notable forthe dailies or the last alpha release is close  enough?
[15:59] <yofel> for installing the alpha should probably be less likely to be broken, after that you can just update
[16:00] <Mithrandir_> yofel: ah thanks
[16:09] <c2tarun> what is rosetta?
[16:10] <Riddell> c2tarun: it's an old codename for Launchpad Translations
[16:13] <c2tarun> Riddell: you looked at the errors in two packages on that ec2 machine yesterday?
[16:13] <Riddell> c2tarun: no I'm afraid i didn't
[17:00] <seaLne> has anyone seen a problem in natty with kontact where if it starts before network is available it is never able to check mail? and clicking the red "-" in the status bit fails to work
[17:03] <seaLne> oh and quiting kontact, then it won't start again?
[17:04] <seaLne> this seems to be a problem with kontact rather than kmail as if on its own kmail behaivs properly
[17:35]  * debfx grabs akonadi 1.5.1
[17:39] <debfx> how do I call a custom dh_* command with cdbs?
[17:57] <debfx> calling it in binary-install/akonadi-server seems to work
[18:03] <c2tarun> except kde-apps.org what other sites are there for announcing kde applications?
[18:07] <debfx> c2tarun: https://projects.kde.org/
[18:14] <bambee> Riddell: libmygpo-qt should be fixed :)
[18:23] <c2tarun> Riddell: there is this application http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/cb2Bib?content=14148 I packed its new version, can you please upload it? here is the debdiff http://paste.ubuntu.com/583914/
[18:37] <apparle> is firefox-kde-support compatible with firefox 4?
[18:38] <Daskreech> Can I apt-get install package=version.number ?
[18:43] <Daskreech> Better question. Sorry. WHy would apt-get recommend an older version of a package as the install candidate when a newer version has higher priority
[18:46] <c2tarun> Daskreech: is the newer version in repo?
[18:46] <Daskreech> http://paste.kde.org/7919/
[18:54] <debfx> apparle: yes
[18:54] <yofel> Daskreech: the '/var/lib/dpkg/status' means it's only available locally, you can't get it anywhere. But that's usually the case for manually installed .deb files, not sure how you got that
[18:55] <yofel> Daskreech: and priority 100 is lower than 500
[19:10] <apparle> debfx: just to make sure, firefox-kde-support in maverick works with https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable/ or are you talking about natty
[19:12] <debfx> apparle: firefox-kde-support hasn't changed since maverick so it should work fine
[19:14] <Daskreech> yofel: Oh thought it was higher
[19:14] <Daskreech> hmm
[19:14] <Daskreech> Oh that's right though didn't notice that didn't come from a repo
[19:15] <yofel> ah, and package=version will work as long as the package is available