[07:31] <harsh343> if i want to create a file then ?
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> !info pulseaudio lucid
[07:31] <chaospsychex> gksudo gedit <filename.file>
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> JetBoyJetGirl: the server is up and files are there, the sudo apt-get update should sort you
[07:33] <phlak_user> harsh343, when i type "How to create a file in Ubuntu" in google, I get 11 Mn results and the first one is this -> http://www.ehow.com/how_5804442_create-new-file-ubuntu-terminal.html
[07:33] <JetBoyJetGirl> how do i change mirrors?
[07:33] <stephni> having problem running wire shark as root somebody pls help
[07:34] <JetBoyJetGirl> i just tried sudo-aptget update to no avail
[07:34] <chaospsychex> !doc
[07:34] <phlak_user> JetBoyJetGirl, edit software-sources
[07:34] <chaospsychex> :-P
[07:34] <linuxuz3r> hey
[07:34] <pnorman_desktop> JetBoyJetGirl: was it what you typed, or sudo apt-get update?
[07:35] <harsh343> phlak_user, yes o got it
[07:35] <phlak_user> harsh343, great :)
[07:36] <vishwas> hi
[07:36]  * phlak_user throws the spoon away
[07:37] <Sterist> anyone know if i can shrink-off unallocated space from the beginning of an extended partition?
[07:37] <Sterist> without issue
[07:37] <chaospsychex> yeah, use gparted
[07:37] <vishwas> Any one from INDIA
[07:37] <chaospsychex> me
[07:37] <Sterist> chaospsychex it wont cause any problems?
[07:37] <chaospsychex> no
[07:37] <chaospsychex> !gparted
[07:38] <vishwas> Any Gubals here
[07:38] <chaospsychex> make sure you don't shrink it over any data
[07:38] <chaospsychex> data will be represented as a color on the partition
[07:38] <Sterist> chaospsychex yes i have it and invoking our bot didnt help lol but this space is at the beginning the partition...
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Evilkiss: I can't find a ppa dude, sorry
[07:39] <chaospsychex> Sterist: sudo fdisk -l and paste the output to pastie.org
[07:39] <Evilkiss> ActionParsnip: It's ok...thanks anyway
[07:39] <SupaYoshi> Hi I was here yesterday, I want my grub timeout changed, but I can only boot into Windows
[07:39] <SupaYoshi> How do I do it from Live CD without reinstalling the whole OS
[07:39] <SupaYoshi> :p
[07:40] <vishwas> Which is the best torrent downloader for UBUNTU
[07:40] <chaospsychex> deluge
[07:40] <vishwas> Thanx
[07:40] <vishwas> Any alternate
[07:40] <chaospsychex> transmission, lol
[07:40] <vishwas> lol
[07:40] <WeberEInc> Hello all!  Anyone have any success getting an iPhone 3GS with iOS 5 to talk to Ubuntu 10.04?  Since the iOS 5 upgrade, the phone no longer auto-mounts like it used to in Ubuntu.  I can no longer see the photos like a USB device as it used to.
[07:41] <tsak_> how i can restric linux kernel files to be updated. my friends is now using ubuntu a lot but hes laptop wireless works only with earlier version of linux kernel. so he doesnt like that when he does updates the system "brokes"
[07:41] <vishwas> How to install Nvidia Graphics driver in UBUNTU
[07:41] <chaospsychex> don't
[07:42] <zykotick9> !pinning | tsak_
[07:42] <Sterist> chaospsychex sorry i like pastebin better lol http://pastebin.com/0Kb1C1XE
[07:42] <vishwas> Nvidia GeForce Graphics driver in UBUNTU
[07:42] <tsak_> hmm wait i will read that :)
[07:43] <Choconut> Hello, anybody can help me?
[07:43] <vishwas> Need some help?
[07:43] <pnorman_desktop> !ask | Choconut
[07:43] <Choconut> Yes, but I'm a french people.
[07:43] <chaospsychex> Sterist: which one do you want to expand/shrink ?
[07:43] <zykotick9> Sterist, you run without a swap partition? humm.
[07:43] <Sterist> chaospsychex mind you that isn't showing the unallocated space in question
[07:44] <Sterist> zykotick9 yes and no, long story
[07:44] <vishwas> How to get microphone working in UBUNTU 10.04?
[07:44] <zykotick9> Sterist, there does appear to be a gap between the NTFS and Extended
[07:44] <silv3r_m00n> the desktop that I see , is that an X session ?
[07:44] <Choconut> Okay, I'm going to install Ubuntu. But when I boot to the CD. How many new partition musst I do for Ubuntu. One /swap One /racine ?
[07:45] <zykotick9> silv3r_m00n, currently, any GUI that you see is running on top of Xorg yes.
[07:45] <chaospsychex> Sterist: you shouldn't have a problem extending the extended over the gap
[07:45] <Sterist> zykotick9 then that's the one. it's part of the extended partition (beginning of)
[07:45] <chaospsychex> do sudo update-grub when ur done to be sage
[07:45] <tonio> xdcc send #20
[07:45] <chaospsychex> *safe
[07:45] <Sterist> chaospsychex again lol it is PART of the extended. i wasn to undo that
[07:46] <Sterist> want
[07:46] <Shirakawasuna> Choconut: I would go with the default, it should choose one automatically.
[07:46] <soreau> silv3r_m00n: What you see is your desktop environment and window manager but they're running in X, yes
[07:46] <zykotick9> Sterist, oh - maybe not?
[07:46] <silv3r_m00n> hmm ok
[07:46] <Shirakawasuna> Choconut: in general I think it makes / and /swap
[07:46] <Choconut> Okay Shirakawasuna, thank you.
[07:46] <silv3r_m00n> so a webhosting server does not have a X session running , right ?
[07:46] <Choconut> Have a good day.
[07:47] <Choconut> :)
[07:47] <Sterist> zykotick9 maybe not what :P
[07:47] <chaospsychex> Stearist paste screen capture from gparted showing partitions of dev/sda
[07:47] <JetBoyJetGirl> great, the update finished! thanks to all for the help!
[07:47] <zykotick9> Sterist, no maybe about this - i was making a mistake.  I'm not sure there is a gap.
[07:47] <JetBoyJetGirl> this chan is pretty awesome :-)
[07:47] <vishwas>  I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :
[07:47] <WeberEInc> Hello all!  Anyone have any success getting an iPhone 3GS with iOS 5 to talk to Ubuntu 10.04?  Since the iOS 5 upgrade, the phone no longer auto-mounts like it used to in Ubuntu.  I can no longer see the photos like a USB device as it used to.
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: usually no
[07:49] <rodhash> Hello guys.. how can I disable the paste function from middle clicking to double click (left and right button) pls ??
[07:49] <tsak_> zykotick9: thanks! that hold:ing is what i need. i dont have to use pinning :) good page :)
[07:51] <rodhash> anyone?
[07:51] <chaospsychex> !doc
[07:51] <Sterist> chaospsychex zykotick9 notice the position of the mouse. that's what i want to shrink OUT of the extended http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/74479431.png/
[07:53] <chaospsychex> Sterist: you want /dev/sda5 to cover the grey space to the left of it?
[07:53] <zykotick9> Sterist, well you can try with gparted.  good luck.
[07:53] <Sterist> chaospsychex zykotick9 scratch that, looks like mouse is removed from screenshot lol
[07:53] <phlak_user> WeberEInc, phones generally have an option that you can set for showing up as storage device; check if this is the case with your phone
[07:53] <chaospsychex> i cant see the mouse cursor
[07:53] <suse_newbee> does anyone know why mobile broadband unable to connect on ubuntu 11.10 with KDM dsktop environment
[07:53] <phlak_user> suse_newbee, without any further details, my crystal ball cant
[07:54] <pnorman_desktop> crashed again :( running memtest, hope it turns up something since that's a cheap and easy fix
[07:54] <chaospsychex> sterist?
[07:54] <Sterist> chaospsychex no no no lol i want that grey space to be removed from the light blue outline (removed from extended partition)
[07:55] <suse_newbee> phlak_user: my uname - output > Linux anonymez 2.6.38-10-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28 15:05:41 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[07:55] <harsh343> due to some mistake my www folder deleted not how can i restore this www files
[07:55] <WeberEInc> phlak_user, I don't see anything like that in the iPhone 3GS using iOS 5
[07:55] <ndairou> hi all
[07:55] <chaospsychex> then resize the extended partition
[07:55] <Sterist> chaospsychex so that i can format sda4 and have it consolidated with that space in question
[07:56] <chaospsychex> yeah
[07:56] <ndairou> i need a help
[07:56] <chaospsychex> can u even resize a extended partition that has logical containers in it?
[07:56] <chaospsychex> i've never done it
[07:56] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, i believe it's the logical inside the extended that needs resizing.  Sterist
[07:56] <chaospsychex> no
[07:56] <chaospsychex> he wants sda4 to have that space to use
[07:56] <phlak_user> WeberEInc, have you done this -> sudo apt-get install libimobiledevice-utils;idevicepair unpair && idevicepair pair
[07:56] <Sterist> chaosphsychex zykotick9 well technically unallocated isnt logical or primary lol
[07:56] <chaospsychex> and you would have to resize the extended to do that
[07:57] <Sterist> chaosphsychex zykotick9 correct me if im wrong
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> ndairou: ask away
[07:57] <phlak_user> suse_newbee, and how are you connecting to the mobile broadband?
[07:57] <chaospsychex> resizing the partitions INSIDE the extended does not change the size of the extended partition
[07:57] <zykotick9> Sterist, sda3 is the extended - and both unallocated bits are inside that
[07:57] <ndairou> i have ubuntu ultilmate editioin 2.9
[07:57] <harsh343> I am using this command  "sudo rm -rf /var/www" and my files got deleted now i want to store again ??? please please help me
[07:57] <chaospsychex> changing sda5 will not change sda3
[07:58] <chaospsychex> you need to resize sda3
[07:58] <phlak_user> harsh343, restore from the backup that you should have taken
[07:58] <pipalo> How can I edit the shortcats in unity ?
[07:58] <ndairou> after updating, i lose the animation of booting
[07:58] <WeberEInc> phlak_user, the second command returned the following:  QueryType failed, error code -256
[07:58] <zykotick9> ndairou, not supported here
[07:58] <vishwas> Yavanige Enu Gothila
[07:58] <pipalo> context menu has nothing :(
[07:58] <phlak_user> WeberEInc, that is ok (since it wasnt paired)
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: shortcuts in wht way??
[07:59] <zykotick9> !ultimate | ndairou
[07:59] <phlak_user> !cn| vishwas
[08:00] <pipalo> ActionParnsip: the shortcuts in the menu bar.
[08:00] <Sterist> zykotick9 understood, i want to essentially shrink the beginning of extended to match the beginning of sda5, if that makes sense
[08:00] <nibalizer> !ming
[08:00] <nibalizer> !mint
[08:00] <ndairou> ok thankx
[08:01] <zykotick9> Sterist, i don't think that makes sense, just increase the logical inside to take up the entire extended (unless you're after something else?)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: those are arrnged by how you order the apps on the unity launcher
[08:01] <harsh343> phlak_user, can u plz give me the command for this
[08:01] <chaospsychex> zykotick9: he is after something else, he wants sda4 to have that little gray block to the left of sda5
[08:01] <pipalo> ActionParnsip: The menu where you can see the open programs, not Dash home
[08:02] <Sterist> zykotick9, what he said lol
[08:02] <chaospsychex> and to do that he has to resize sda3
[08:02] <Sterist> bingo!
[08:02] <pipalo> ActionParsnip: How can I edit a shortcut ?
[08:02] <pipalo> like to change the link in it.
[08:02] <phlak_user> harsh343, its simple; if you backed up your files to say /media/backup; you run this command sudo cp /media/backup /var/www
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: the only way I personally know is to edit the .desktop file /usr/share/applications
[08:03] <chaospsychex> even though that space is unallocated it is only avilable to sda3
[08:03] <chaospsychex> because it is INSIDE sda3
[08:03] <zykotick9> harsh343, there is no undelete from "rm"
[08:03] <pipalo> ActionParnsip: CHeers I will give it a try
[08:03] <WeberEInc> phlak_user, I tried re-installing all of the libmobiledevice pkgs and libipod - anything else you can think of?
[08:03] <Sterist> chaospsychex are you saying that the beginning boundary of sda3 is permanent?
[08:03] <chaospsychex> as long as sda3 exists, yes
[08:03] <Guest49732> ciao sono giuseppe
[08:04] <harsh343> zykotick9, now what can i do i want my www folder again and some files also which are kept in under www
[08:04] <Jan31415> I just wanted to update my Ubuntu to version 11. Now it doesnt start anymore. I need the data from my home directory. Nut in there thers just a readme.txt file and an Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop file. HELP!!!
[08:04] <suse_newbee> phlak_user: now I'm using linux mint can but on ubuntu 11.10(KDE) no joy..
[08:04] <chaospsychex> i'm not sure you can even resize sda3 once created
[08:04] <zykotick9> harsh343, sorry i can't help
[08:04] <phlak_user> !info libimobiledevice
[08:04] <chaospsychex> only can delete, add partitions and delete partitions inside of it
[08:05] <chaospsychex> u can resize partitions inside sda3, does you no good though
[08:05] <harsh343> zykotick9, means it is not possible to restore again yes or no ?
[08:05] <zykotick9> harsh343, you deleted it - you've lost those files
[08:05] <phlak_user> WeberEInc, there is a thread somewhere which says to upgrade libimobiledevice to latest here -> http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[08:05] <pipalo> ActionParnsip: Yup did the trick! cheers.
[08:05] <chaospsychex> harsh343: google 'testdisk'
[08:05] <harsh343> zykotick9, now what can i do ???
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Jan31415: did you use an encrypted home folder or encrypted file systems
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: i'm not sure if they survive updates
[08:05] <zykotick9> harsh343, you could recreate the directory and start again
[08:06] <chaospsychex> harsh343: sudo apt-get install testdisk and google how to use it
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: but its the only way I know how to edit them
[08:06] <chaospsychex> can recover deleted files using testdisk
[08:06] <phlak_user> suse_newbee, you need to give more info; is it a phone or a usb dongle; if phone, is it paired via bluetooth or data cable and so on
[08:06] <harsh343> zykotick9, ok thanks
[08:06] <Kage> I followed the steps on the wiki to get flash working, but now instead of missing plugin, it says it is out of date
[08:07] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, photorec doesn't support ext4 though
[08:07] <Sterist> chaospsychex zykotick9 i'm going to check something from my other install when the extended is unmounted. brb
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Kage: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'          thanks
[08:07] <chaospsychex> k
[08:08] <pipalo> ActionParnsip: all I can do now is hope they survive and other then that it's no big deal I will get gimp instead of gimpbox.
[08:09] <Kage> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/e21rZFhR
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Kage: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-downloader:i386           then restart your browser, should help
[08:11] <Kage> ActionParsnip: works perfectly now :)
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Kage: sweet :)
[08:11] <suse_newbee> phlak_user: it's a usb dongle by zte inc i.e k3565-z
[08:11] <Kage> now for Java >.<
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Kage: you have a 64bit OS. You had a 32bit flash and a 64bit flash installed.
[08:11] <phlak_user> suse_newbee, have you created an entry for it in network manager under mobile broadband?
[08:12] <Kage> ActionParsnip: I see
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Kage: so we removed one and all is good. Having more than one flash plugin causes conflicts
[08:12] <suse_newbee> phlak_user, yes I did..
[08:13] <phlak_user> suse_newbee, can you tail -f /var/log/syslog when you click on connect in network manager and pastebin the output of that?
[08:13] <phlak_user> !pastebin | suse_newbee
[08:16] <Sterist> chaospsychex zykotick9 gparted will happily let me move the boundaries (beginning and end) of sda3. i didnt hit apply. before i do this, is there any reason i shouldnt?
[08:16] <chaospsychex> no, life is too short
[08:16] <Sterist> lol
[08:16] <zykotick9> Sterist, do you have any important information backed up?  if not, i'd do that first - there is always a risk to this sort of thing
[08:16] <swebo> hi
[08:16] <chaospsychex> just do sudo update-grub
[08:17] <chaospsychex> check the output of the command, should show your operating systems being detected
[08:17] <Sterist> zykotick9 even though the space is unallocated? it wont let me adjust the beginning further than the grey
[08:17] <chaospsychex> your good then
[08:17] <phlak_user> !who | chaospsychex
[08:17] <zykotick9> Sterist, I don't know sorry?
[08:18] <chaospsychex> Sterist: make sure you back-up your erotic medai files!
[08:18] <swebo> i can't connect to a WEP "secured" wifi network here. my system is a dell vostro 1000 with a bcm4311 wifi card. networkmanager just keeps asking for a password. it worked until yesterday with the same configuration. i don't know what has changed. signal strength can't be the problem, i would say.
[08:18] <mattest> yep
[08:18] <Sterist> lol okay
[08:18] <Sterist> thanks so very much :)
[08:18] <swebo> can somebody please help me? i'm running out of ideas ...
[08:18] <chaospsychex> np
[08:18] <Sterist> nothing important is on this hard drive, i'm just going to give it a shot
[08:19] <phlak_user> swebo, someone changed the WEP key
[08:20] <chaospsychex> Sterist: make sure you do the 'sudo update-grub' command after resizing the partition
[08:20] <doxin> logitech m100 mouse, it no work. what gives?
[08:20] <swebo> phlak_user, i'm still connected to the network, with another notebook ...
[08:20] <swebo> and i can connect with the same key here
[08:20] <chaospsychex> swebo: huh?
[08:21] <chaospsychex> swebo: how are you connected to the network, on eth0 ?
[08:22] <swebo> chaospsychex, on wlan0
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> swebo: if you run:   dmesg | grep -i firm    do you see anything about firmware missing?
[08:22] <chaospsychex> swebo: oh
[08:23] <phlak_user> swebo, if you tail -f /var/log/syslog , you might get some clues
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> swebo: also try disabling ipv6 if you don't use it
[08:23] <chaospsychex> swebo: you have 1 wlan0 or 2?
[08:24] <swebo> chaospsychex, only one
[08:25] <swebo> ActionParsnip, the firmware is successfully loaded, as i can see
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> swebo: coolies
[08:25] <swebo> ActionParsnip, how can i disable ipv6?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> swebo: add the boot option:  ipv6.disable=1
[08:26] <chaospsychex> can gnome3 be used with ubuntu 11.10? which kernel version does it ship with ?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: gnome3 is default in gtk based Oneiric desktops
[08:27] <chaospsychex> is the b43-firmware module in the 3.1 kernel ?
[08:27] <chaospsychex> no unity right?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic | chaospsychex
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: yes unity, ubuntu classic is replaced by Unity2D lthough you can install the gnome fallback, or switch desktops
[08:28] <chaospsychex> ActionParsnip: can i use the regular gnome3 desktop ?
[08:28] <swebo> this is my syslog while connecting: http://pastebin.com/sLRi0B1R
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> !notunity
[08:28] <doxin> logitech m100 mouse, it no work. what gives?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> doxin: probably config
[08:29] <doxin> ActionParsnip: what config and where?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> doxin: let me websearch
[08:30] <doxin> ActionParsnip: i tried that :I
[08:30] <swebo> phlak_user, this is my syslog while connecting: http://pastebin.com/sLRi0B1R
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> doxin: let me have a go. I'm blackbelt googlefu and 2nd Dan DuckDuckGo-ism
[08:31] <doxin> ActionParsnip: yaaaay!
[08:31] <chaospsychex> wow 11.10 works!
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> doxin: seen this one: http://techvisionblog.in/activate-additional-tilt-buttons-on-you-mouse-in-ubuntu/
[08:31] <chaospsychex> and in a vm
[08:31] <chaospsychex> 11.04 wouldn't display correctly
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> doxin: or this: http://adventuresinswitching.blogspot.com/2008/04/logitech-mx1000-mouse-on-ubuntu-804.html
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: yeah compiz in Natty wasn't brilliant
[08:31] <doxin> ActionParsnip: the mouse doesn't move either
[08:31] <chaospsychex> i might have to come 'home' lol, i've been using fedora 15
[08:32] <chaospsychex> 11.10 is lts?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> doxin: the specification nd driver loading may make the mouse lod
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: no, but 12.04 is
[08:32] <doxin> ActionParsnip: hmmm
[08:32] <chaospsychex> when does 12.04 comes out?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: guess
[08:32] <chaospsychex> december 4th?
[08:32] <chaospsychex> or april 2012?
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: look at the version that just came out and when it was actually released
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: april 2012 is correct
[08:33] <chaospsychex> ahhh
[08:33] <gogeta> chaospsychex: wow 11.10 just came out and you whant 12
[08:33] <chaospsychex> gogeta: lol
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: makes it esier to know when  release was out and when it is EOL
[08:33] <gogeta> chaospsychex: someone needs to just eable rolling relese
[08:33] <gogeta> enable
[08:34] <chaospsychex> what does that do?
[08:34] <chaospsychex> updates to every new version ?
[08:34] <gogeta> chaospsychex: always the latest stuff no releses
[08:34] <cielo> ciao
[08:34] <chaospsychex> how do you enable it?
[08:35] <gogeta> chaospsychex: dunni debion and arch do it
[08:35] <Slartibart> Hi. Ok to ask about dnsmasq here?
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> doxin: little sidenote. Logitech hate Linux and refuse to support it
[08:35] <doxin> ActionParsnip: as such. how odd.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Slartibart: sure, its in the ubuntu repos
[08:35] <Slartibart> Ok, thanks.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> doxin: the M100 looks like  stndrd POS mouse though....
[08:36] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: sense when my legitec stuff has always loved linux
[08:36] <chaospsychex> arch does it out of the box though
[08:36] <mamoul> I never got arround to trying arch
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: oh there are projects to sort their stuff out but logitech don't make it
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> doxin: seems you need the files outlined in the links I gave. Have you made those files before?
[08:37] <gogeta> chaospsychex: if you can handel a command line and reading a wiki arch is easy enough to setup or you can use a easy to use project like chakra
[08:38] <Slartibart> Right now I have dnsmasq setup listening on <IP_ADDRESS> to point some subdomain.dev back to my local apache server. But I need to be able to test webserver contents with internete explorer as well which is why I have virtualbox. Problem is that ie can only access the server from the computer's 192.168.* address, so I have to reconfigure dnsmasq somehow.
[08:38] <Kartagis> hi
[08:39] <cielo> !list
[08:39] <gogeta> lol list
[08:39] <Kartagis> I have a problem. when I first start my desktop, network is enabled but there's no connection. I have to stop and start it to get connection. why is that?
[08:40] <ikonia> Kartagis: define stop and start
[08:41] <Kartagis> ikonia: I click the Enable Networking icon twice
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Slartibart: may help http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/buci-dnsmasq.html
[08:41] <Kartagis> s/icon/menu item/
[08:41] <ikonia> Kartagis: is this wired or wireless
[08:41] <Kartagis> ikonia: wired
[08:41] <Slartibart> If I don't set a listen-address for dnsmasq it listens on all adresses, right? But what to I enter in /etc/dnsmasq.d/dev ? Right now it contains address=/dev/<IP_ADDRESS> , can I just add a similar line for the 192.168.* address? Extra: My 192.168.* changes as I'm connected to different wireless networks, can I use ranges somehow?
[08:41] <ikonia> Kartagis: odd, it should auto detect and start up if you have a valid network setup
[08:42] <Slartibart> ActionParsnip: Right away. thanks.
[08:42] <ikonia> Kartagis: where have you configured the network card, in the interfaces file, or the gnome network manager
[08:42] <Kartagis> ikonia: everything was set up, this began happening after I upgraded to 11.10
[08:43] <sorush20> hi
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: could add a line in /etc/resolv.conf   to run: modprobe -r module; modprobe module          obviously change module to the actual module name, add it above the exit 0 line
[08:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: not what I asked
[08:43] <pipalo> !bot
[08:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: where is this setup, in the interfaces file, or the gnome network manager
[08:43] <Kartagis> ikonia: gnome network manager
[08:44] <sorush20> When I upgraded to 11.04 the kernel that I select shows a dim screen and the login screen is barely visible. So I have to select an older version of the kernel to start.
[08:44] <Kartagis> ikonia: hmm, there's nothing in /etc/network/interfaces, except lo
[08:45] <ikonia> Kartagis: that sounds normal.
[08:45] <ikonia> Kartagis: have a look in the syslog, when you put the network card in do you see the device come up, eg: link detected eth0 connected at 100mbs etc
[08:45] <ikonia> Kartagis: wording simlar to that
[08:47] <qotsa> I have a very weird problem. Suddenly when I press and hold a key (like Backspace) it acts like a single key press. I.e. Backspace only deletes one character instead of continously deleting characters when holding it. It's the same for all other keys too.
[08:47] <pipalo> !botsnack
[08:47] <antnash> someone's put blu-tac under your keys
[08:48] <Kartagis> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/EKP5BFdZ
[08:48] <antnash> individually. I would suggest commending them on their dedication to practical jokes.
[08:50] <qotsa> I somehow disable X11 autorepeat. (Can be enabled with xset r)
[08:50] <ikonia> Kartagis: that looks like it got an ip address just fine
[08:52] <dbugger> Hey guys. I have a small business and I was looking for some billing software to manage things like automatic invoices at the end of the month, and such. Do you know anything?
[08:53] <taraduffy> hi, anyone know how to run siggen in after install?
[08:53] <dr_willis> !info siggen
[08:53] <dr_willis> try the cli?
[08:55] <sorush20> wow there is no real help here..
[08:55] <dspstv> hi all, i upgraded to 11.10 but the theme seems to inherit settings i had from before, it makes my menus unreadable
[08:55] <taraduffy> dr-willis: can you help?
[08:55] <dspstv> sorush20: are you new to irc?
[08:55] <Kartagis> ikonia: so? do I need my syslog when I first book my PC?
[08:56] <Kartagis> boot*
[08:56] <sorush20> dspstv: no just a little impatient today
[08:56] <dr_willis> taraduffy:  with what?
[08:56] <ikonia> Kartagis: no, I'd look (use ifconfig) to see if the eth0 device has an IP
[08:57]  * dr_willis is on his break also.. so nit a lot if time
[08:57] <taraduffy> dr_willis: sorry, I thought you were answering me: "hi, anyone know how to run siggen in after install?"
[08:57] <dspstv> is anyone aware of a way to customize the appereance under 11.10? the themes seem to keep that old background color i had for the menus.. i cant read anything
[08:57] <dr_willis> taraduffy:  not all apps have menus.. so have you explored siggins docs and clu commands?
[08:57] <dspstv> i dont see a way to cstomize that under unity
[08:58] <dspstv> the user evva is sending private messages with sex spam
[08:59] <dr_willis> www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/jj/linux/siggen.html
[09:00] <taraduffy> dr_willis: OK, looking thanks.
[09:00] <dr_willis> all i did was loik for its docs ;)
[09:02] <dspstv> really sucks this user interface
[09:03] <dr_willis> got unity working fine here.
[09:04] <dr_willis> been playing with gnome shell also
[09:04] <dspstv> dr_willis: this is the second machine where it makes the user completely lost
[09:04] <dspstv> i cant read the name of the dirs in the desktop
[09:05] <systemparadox> how do I set a static IP address in 11.04? I've set it in /etc/network/interfaces, which works when I manually do ifup eth0, but on boot eth0 isn't even up
[09:05] <dspstv> the font color is to close to the desktop background
[09:05] <dspstv> but theres no way to choose font color
[09:05] <dspstv> before it was
[09:06] <dr_willis> dspstv:  havent noticed. using dfferent bg ane themes here nit the defaults.
[09:06] <dspstv> i dont understand why it inherits from before this settings if one cant tweak them anymore
[09:06] <dr_willis> gnome tweak  has some settings also.
[09:06] <dspstv> in the Appereance panel one cant do customize
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> dspstv: then use a different UI. Gnome isn't the only desktop
[09:07] <dspstv> ActionParsnip: of course, i will go back to awesome
[09:07] <dspstv> but this is just none-sense
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> dspstv: problem solved
[09:07] <dr_willis> settings and thems have bwen revamped in gnome3
[09:07] <dspstv> revamped or impaired
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> dspstv: I've been using LXDE for the last 4 releases, no issues here
[09:07] <sam595> Hello all.
[09:08] <dr_willis> howdys
[09:08] <dspstv> ActionParsnip: is not about the issues with LXDE, is about removing thinsgand making it difficult for the user
[09:08] <dspstv> but, i guess you arealso just a user
[09:08] <sam595> I have a question. I am installing Ubuntu for the first time now but I think it's hanging. I'm at the point that it says "doelsysteem install" (set target disk) and I see no progress
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> dspstv: I'm an ubuntu member, but technically yes
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> dspstv: lots grab the gnome based ubuntu and either love or hate the UI
[09:09] <dspstv> ActionParsnip: i had gnome before,
[09:09] <sam595> So should I just be patient or am I in troubles?
[09:10] <dspstv> ActionParsnip: is not a question of love or hate
[09:10] <dspstv> i just want to be able to customize the font color in menus and folder names
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> sam595: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[09:10] <Javid> !ssh
[09:11] <sam595> ActionParsnip: No I did not
[09:11] <sam595> I have it on a usb stick
[09:11] <Javid> what package do I need to install to have an ssh server on my computer?
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> sm595: then how do you know the ISO ws complete and consistent?
[09:11] <Javid> openssh and sshd weren't found.
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Javid: openssh-server
[09:11] <Javid> thanks
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> !md5 \ sam595
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[09:11] <sam595> ActionParsnip: No clue, having faith I guess :) So I have problems?
[09:12] <systemparadox> ifup -a doesn't start eth0 either, but ifup eth0 does
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> sam595: until we know the ISO is good we cannot really move on. Get it tested and see what you get
[09:12] <systemparadox> oh found it. Yey for man pages (ifup) - I forgot to add the auto keyword
[09:13] <sam595> ok ActionParsnip Is it safe to just get out the install now? How do I cancel or do I just push the on/off button for a few seconds?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> sam595: did the installation start?
[09:14] <sam595> yes
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> sam595: ah, let me search
[09:14] <sam595> I got quite far I think. But now it hangs on "doelsysteem instellen"
[09:14] <sam595> ActionParsnip: sure. great
[09:15] <systemparadox> on boot, the KDE wallet and the gnome keyring both ask for my password at the same time- they both try and grab the keyboard and this causes things to get stuck. How can I fix this?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> sam595: did you partition the disk and setup a user?
[09:15] <sam595> ActionParsnip: yes
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> sam595: is this to be a dual boot?
[09:15] <sarthor> HI, Using Ubuntu, Network-manager can not see my wlan, iwlist and iwconfig results are here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/725087/
[09:15] <sam595> ActionParsnip: yes
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> sam595: is the ISO on the same system you are installing to?
[09:16] <sam595> ActionParsnip: no it's on a usb I made from the ubuntu website
[09:16] <Slartibart> Is it possible to use environment variables in config files? Like, export computer's current 192.168.* ip address to a variable, and then use it in a dnsmasq.d config file that dnsmasq loads when it starts?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> sam595: yes but did you keep the ISO you downloaded from the site?
[09:16] <sam595> ActionParsnip: I think it should be in downloads in Windows still yes
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> sam595: cool, then you can md5 test that. Ubuntu can access NTFS partitions
[09:18] <qiyong> anyone running lucid here?
[09:18] <sam595> ActionParsnip: sounds good, but I just have this install screen full screen atm. I do have a top bar and am connected to wifi
[09:18] <qiyong> do me a favor
[09:18] <sven_> Slartibart, i dont think dnsmasq would accept variables, but you can just rewrite, or sed -i the config file right before the service starts (or restart/reload it afterwards)
[09:18] <qiyong> ops
[09:18] <qiyong> !ops
[09:18] <dr_willis> unity font color   askubuntu.com/questions/33050/how-do-you-change-the-font-color-in-the-unity-panel
[09:18] <qiyong> spammers
[09:18] <qiyong> 17:17 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with evva
[09:18] <qiyong> 17:17 <evva> hii sex http://livetube.net.ms/
[09:18] <Myrtti> too late
[09:18] <qiyong> !ops
[09:19] <FloodBot1> qiyong: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:19] <Myrtti> klined already
[09:19] <qiyong> who did the k-lined?
[09:19] <qiyong> nice job
[09:19] <Myrtti> freenode staff
[09:19] <mrmist> qiyong: for future info, it's best not to re-paste spam into the channel :)
[09:20] <qiyong> mrmist: heh
[09:20] <qiyong> anyone running lucid here?
[09:20] <Slartibart> sven_: Yeah, I guess that's the way to go. Thanks.
[09:20] <ar3ac> hi there
[09:20] <ar3ac> i have a little problem
[09:20] <soreau> ! anyone | qiyong
[09:21] <qiyong> i want someone to check his /lib/init/upstart-job file
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> sam595: CTRL+ALT+T should run a terminal
[09:21] <ar3ac> sometimes when unity start ( i have the autologin ) the usb keyboard doesn't work
[09:21] <ar3ac> i have to unplug & plug to make it works
[09:21] <ar3ac> any advice ?
[09:21] <sam595> ActionParsnip: Ok let me write it down. I am on the neighbors pc
[09:21] <qiyong> i want someone to check his /lib/init/upstart-job file on lucid. mine is corrupted, i wonder if it should be a shell script.
[09:21] <sam595> ActionParsnip: when I have the terminal what should I do
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> ar3ac: you may want to unload then reload the driver module
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> sam595: mount the NTFS and you can access the data there. I suggest you run:  nautilus &
[09:22] <TheExplorer> Hello, please save me: My front microphone jack has wanted to auto-mute itself since the introduction of these pulse audios. How do i nullify that and go back to old alsa mixer
[09:23] <sarthor> HI, Using Ubuntu, Network-manager can not see my wlan, iwlist and iwconfig results are here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/725087/
[09:23] <ar3ac> ActionParsnip, which module exactly ?
[09:23] <soreau> qiyong: yes: # Symlink target for initscripts that have been converted to Upstart.
[09:24] <sam595> ActionParsnip: Ok I will google the things and try. Will be back later
[09:24] <sam595> ActionParsnip: thank you very much
[09:25] <TheExplorer> ahh its doing it again, wont even get through a song before it cuts out and mutes for no reason... Im very confused.
[09:25] <almoxarife> TheExplorer: auto mute, and you know this how?
[09:25] <qiyong> soreau: could you run file /lib/init/upstart-job?
[09:26] <TheExplorer> almoxarife, well you see... ill be listening to something, then it will mute. Then i have to click the icon and "unmute"
[09:26] <soreau> qiyong: /lib/init/upstart-job: POSIX shell script text executable
[09:26] <qiyong> soreau: was it always a script?
[09:27] <soreau> qiyong: I never took notice but I assume it has always been
[09:27] <TheExplorer> almoxarife, It seems to have something to do with other applications wanting to use the sound card as well. like when i pulled up this window just now.  The sound will mute itself... without prompt.  What must i do to remove all of that, and go back to what i had in edgy
[09:33] <almoxarife> not that I don't want the muslim wannabees to have a fair chance
[09:33] <Myrtti> almoxarife: seriously, tone it down
[09:34] <GeorgeJ> Is there a development channel for Ubuntu? I'm interested in making a simple app in python that has an  icon in the notification area.
[09:34] <soreau> GeorgeJ: #ubuntu-devel
[09:34] <GeorgeJ> soreau: Thanks
[09:34] <TheExplorer> Almox, i understand youre not as "quick" as some other people, but your hatred only reinforces your inferiority.
[09:35] <dr_willis> TheExplorer:  xchat has a beep on nick feature i thinkn
[09:35] <almoxarife> Myrtti: I want to, are we killing ourselves? you know? we allowing the bad guys to win? I am one of the 99%
[09:35] <Slartibart> Any ideas as to why I get the right adress from dnsmasq when I query for the name I added from bash, but not from my virtualbox windows? nslookup there has the right dns server ip, and other real names seem fine to query about..
[09:35] <Myrtti> almoxarife: the topic of this channel is Ubuntu support. Please keep to it.
[09:35] <Math^> does anyone know how I can use smooth scaling in OpenShot?
[09:35] <TheExplorer> dr_willis i believe you are correct, this could go one step to figuring out why its cutting out my sound when interacting with something else.
[09:35] <almoxarife> Myrtti: yes, it is
[09:36] <TheExplorer>  this is the first time ive seen a troll in ubuntu
[09:36] <almoxarife> TheExplorer: you must be new
[09:37] <almoxarife> troll on though
[09:37] <Myrtti> can you guys just move on?
[09:37] <TheExplorer> ive been playing with ubuntu since breezy
[09:38] <dani288> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu on my Gigabyte laptop and I facing some problem: headphones won't mute internal speakers?
[09:39] <DysonReturns> Greets, using latest Xubuntu - my laptop's screen is stuck on dim (think after I hibernated) and the settings doesn't have an effect. Any ideas?
[09:39] <TheExplorer> Yeah cant even finish one song before the audio up and mutes on me.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> dani288: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    and add the line: options snd-hda-intel position-fix=1     reboot to test. If that is no good, change it to: options snd-hda-intel model=laptop
[09:40] <TheExplorer> I just want alsa and the mixer. How do i kill the rest?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> dani288: if that is no good, try:   options snd-hda-intel position-fix=1 model=laptop
[09:40] <Klojum> dani288: that could also be a mechanical problem, the socket should disconnect the internal speakers via the headphone plug. If that doesn't work, the socket may be faulty, not the software..?
[09:40] <sskniranjan>  the explore: it may be ur ower savings settings that u ave done in the system properties
[09:41] <sskniranjan> s/ower/your
[09:41] <sskniranjan> s/ower/power
[09:41] <Math^> anyone using openshot...?
[09:42] <Math^> I saw this blog: http://www.openshotvideo.com/2011/01/its-smooth-scaling-from-here.html - but does this mean smooth scaling should just work when scaling, or is it an extra plug-in or something?
[09:46] <Operaist2> how do you remove shortcuts from the top bar in gnome 3?
[09:46] <Math^> nvm, it's in preferences - found it
[09:46] <DysonReturns> nevermind. xfce4-power-manager-plugins -> brightness applet allowed me to set brightness back
[09:48] <Klojum> Is it possible to cleanly re-install Unity in Ubuntu 11.10? After two Unity crashes due to the Compiz Manager, and after which the "unity --reset" didn't help out (Some error messages had statements like "This shouldn't happen" in them..), I'm kinda wondering if there is an good alternative to a total reinstall of Oneiric Ocelot...
[09:48] <obert> hmf how to positioning the toolbar at bottom of screen instead have it hidden on the left?
[09:48] <toek> Hi there, could there be any advantage to having a graphics card for ubuntu server version ?
[09:49] <testi> Ubuntu coming for smartphones? True?
[09:49] <_ruben> toek: being able to connect a monitor sure comes in handy every now and then
[09:50] <testi> Got to leave the train, means shutting down the device (still no Ubuntu smartphone)
[09:50] <vyciook> hi everyone :) any ideas how to on wireless not trought button? on loptop
[09:51] <toek> _ruben: =) besides that, the onboard vga would suffice?
[09:51] <obert> ...
[09:51] <Slartibart> Where does dnsmasq store its logs?
[09:52] <_ruben> toek: usualy? yes
[09:53] <_ruben> toek: the only exception i can think of is the use of specialized computation software which could make use of a highend gpu
[09:53] <toek> Reason i ask is im geting a HP xw8400 Workstation but the fella selling has a GTX 460 in it. Im thinking this only draws electricity
[09:54] <Hot> Hi
[09:55] <Hot> join #mint
[09:56] <nixmaniack> Unable to attach flash drive. Can anyone help me with this?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/725112/
[09:56] <ronzino1983lecce> ciao
[09:56] <almoxarife> Hot: because?
[09:56] <ronzino1983lecce> aiuto
[09:56] <Legend_Xeon> How do i proxify ubuntu terminal? I used "ssh username:sshserver -D <IP_ADDRESS>:1080" to create a proxy on localhost port 1080.
[09:56] <Legend_Xeon> Now what?
[09:57] <ronzino1983lecce> italiano
[09:57] <Hot> almoxarife, nothing ,my keyboard error..
[09:58] <wl> Привет всем
[09:58] <wl> есть тут кто &
[09:58] <almoxarife> don't be afraid, say it, I have a problem and I want a gui way to fix it
[09:58] <wl> &
[09:58] <nixmaniack> Legend_Xeon, perhaps ` export http_proxy="http://myproxy.com" `
[09:58] <almoxarife> this is wh ubuntu works for me
[10:00] <almoxarife> we should expect a gui fix, the home office has decided that gui is the answer
[10:00] <Hot> I hate unity guys.... is unconfortable.... it seems like a game for children...
[10:01] <epic__> I seem to have trouble with my ssh server, i can only log in from local host.. "ssh user@<public-ip>" only works from <public-ip> .. ?
[10:01] <Legend_Xeon> nixmaniack, are you sure its http_proxy?  In windows I query about dev, but the dnsmasq logs contain dev.companyname.int . Could it be that the domain is added along the way? How do I configure dnsmasq to account for this? One live with dev and another line with this? Is it possible to make a wildcard assignment, as
[10:08] <Slartibart> I'm using several 192.168.* nets?
[10:09] <Slartibart> *line
[10:09] <phlak_user> sarthor, is Enable Wireless checked on network-manager?
[10:10] <lharwood> almoxarife: gnome 3 is cool ;)
[10:10] <sarthor> phlak_user: yes. enabled.
[10:10] <sarthor> also i checked with fn+F5 key.
[10:11] <ultrixx> lharwood: and there is kde, too
[10:11] <phlak_user> sarthor, can you pastebin the output of sudo lshw -C network ?
[10:11] <alex-11> HI, I am have Ubuntu 11.10  but it log Out automatic after around 10 min, what should I do?
[10:12] <vyciook> any ideas how to on wireless not trought button? on loptop
[10:12] <vyciook> sudo iwconfig wlan0 up not work
[10:12] <tomodachi> vyciook: what happens?
[10:12] <sarthor> phlak_user: here is the output, http://paste.ubuntu.com/725123/
[10:13] <lharwood> ultrixx: yea, kde is alright used to use it a while ago. Liking gnome atm though, especially how you can display all the windows.
[10:13] <vyciook> iwconfig: unknow command 'up'
[10:14] <phlak_user> sarthor, it shows the wireless as disabled ->  *-network DISABLED
[10:14] <tomodachi> vyciook: i think it would be ifconfig ethx up
[10:14] <ultrixx> lharwood: i like ubuntu 11.10 very much, but the latest kubuntu is so great i can really recommend it
[10:14] <lharwood> ultrixx: k may try it out one day in virtualbox ;)
[10:14] <phlak_user> vyciook, you need wpa_supplicant if the network uses any encryption above WEP
[10:15] <vyciook> hm.. :) i new at this
[10:15] <phlak_user> vyciook, cant you use network manager if you're new to Ubuntu?
[10:16] <vyciook> maybe ;D
[10:16] <sarthor> phlak_user: Yes. and now i did fn+F5 key. and again i lshw -C network, but same result, still it shows, Network=Disabled.
[10:16] <phlak_user> sarthor, has it ever worked on this laptop before?
[10:16] <karaguellek> Hi is there anyone who can help me with the graphic driver pleas i really read everything but found no solutions :/
[10:17] <sarthor> phlak_user: yes. i am using this laptop since 3 months. and same os. Just yesterday i created one dsl account. with pppoeconf command...  after that it is not working
[10:17] <vyciook> karaguellek, system -> admin -> addition drivers?
[10:17] <phlak_user> sarthor, what flavor of Ubuntu?
[10:18] <histo> karaguellek: what card?
[10:18] <sarthor> phlak_user: it is linuxMint.
[10:18] <phlak_user> sarthor, sorry this channel is only for Ubuntu support
[10:18] <vyciook> phlak_user, maybe i can just change key combination for disabling enabling wireless?
[10:18] <phlak_user> sarthor, you might want to look here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10057878
[10:19] <phlak_user> vyciook, why?
[10:19] <vyciook> becose it dosnt work
[10:19] <karaguellek> histo: Ati Radeon Xpress 200M
[10:19] <histo> !ati | karaguellek
[10:19] <vyciook> thats why i cant turn on wireless
[10:19] <sarthor> phlak_user: OK.
[10:19] <karaguellek> vyciook: there is no detected card
[10:20] <phlak_user> vyciook, that isnt a logical way of reasoning. you need to find out the reason for wifi not to work and im sure it is not due to your key combination. that is only to turn on+off the wifi interface.
[10:20] <phlak_user> vyciook, can you pastebin the output of sudo lshw -C network
[10:20] <karaguellek> i am on ubuntu 11.10 btw
[10:20] <sarthor> HI, Using linuxMint 11 Katya, Network-manager can not see the available network ..., iwlist and iwconfig results are here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/725087/ Help please.
[10:21] <sarthor> sorry.... wrong paste.
[10:21] <skore> i can connect to wifi but i mozilla and some others seems to not see network. can that be becouse i didnt send that comp mac adress to my internet provider?
[10:22] <phlak_user> skore, does your ISP require mac address authentication?
[10:22] <skore> the problem is i dont know.
[10:22] <skore> just moved in
[10:23] <skore> trying to guess by symptoms
[10:24] <phlak_user> !pastebin | vyciook
[10:25] <vyciook> !pastebin   *-network
[10:25] <vyciook>        description: Ethernet interface
[10:25] <vyciook>        product: MCP77 Ethernet
[10:25] <vyciook>        vendor: nVidia Corporation
[10:25] <vyciook>        physical id: a
[10:25] <FloodBot1> vyciook: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:25] <vyciook>        bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0
[10:26] <harsh343> How can i give all permissions to admin like copy, paste, create, move and all those tasks, right now i m only the admin but not able to do that graphically, it is only possible through commands and i m newbie in ubuntu so plz help me
[10:26] <histo> sarthor: what type of wifi card?
[10:27] <phlak_user> harsh343, you dont need to explicitly grant permissions to admin accounts. it is already there
[10:27] <vyciook> phlak_user, u recieve my paste? :)
[10:27] <histo> !sudo | harsh343
[10:27] <phlak_user> vyciook, i asked to paste in pastebin not in my PM
[10:27] <histo> !gksu > harsh343
[10:28] <vyciook> !pastebinit   *-network
[10:28] <vyciook>        description: Ethernet interface
[10:28] <vyciook>        product: MCP77 Ethernet
[10:28] <vyciook>        vendor: nVidia Corporation
[10:28] <vyciook>        physical id: a
[10:28] <FloodBot1> vyciook: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:28] <vyciook>        bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0
[10:28] <stimpie> harsh343 you can give someone admin rights via the user controlpanel
[10:30] <vyciook> sorry how tu use pastebin..
[10:31] <soreau> ! pastebin | vyciook
[10:31] <karaguellek> cvyciook: copy the text in the file and paste it into the site than press the paste at the bottom of the site
[10:32] <vyciook> http://paste.ubuntu.com/725145/
[10:32] <vyciook> :) thx
[10:33] <phlak_user> vyciook, that shows the wireless card as disabled. is the wifi light on?
[10:33] <GeorgeJ> Is there any way of programaticaly adding an application to systray-whitelist trough an API(I'm using python)
[10:33] <vyciook> like i said my wi-fi button dosnt work i cant enable it
[10:33] <histo> vyciook: don't you have a function button or switch that you can enable wireless/
[10:34] <vyciook> the switch dosent work so i want to change the switch to key combination
[10:34] <tyska> guys, i need really help im desperate!!!!
[10:34] <private_meta> Is there a list which kinds of file systems fdisk supports at the moment?
[10:34] <tyska> accidentally deleted files on my ubuntu
[10:34] <tyska> what is the option to recover them?
[10:34] <tyska> extundelete?
[10:35] <phlak_user> private_meta, once inside fdisk you can press L to see
[10:35] <tyska> please someone give me a hand
[10:35] <wisevoyager> tyska, try Testdisk to recover the files
[10:35] <tyska> Testdisk?
[10:35] <histo> vyciook: have an idea
[10:35] <vyciook> ?
[10:35] <tyska> apt-get install Testdisk?
[10:36] <tyska> It recover files from ext4 partition?
[10:36] <histo> vyciook: try sudo rfkill unblock all
[10:36] <histo> vyciook: see if it enables your card
[10:36] <Guest67945>
[10:37] <vyciook> :) nice
[10:37] <vyciook> its enabled
[10:37] <harsh343> phlak_user, if already there so why it become impossible to me ??
[10:38] <vyciook> histo, and the wifi switch start to work :O
[10:38] <phlak_user> harsh343, i dont know what you are aiming to do and how you are going about it
[10:38] <vyciook> what this command done?
[10:38] <Ycarene> Is there a way to set the kernel so that after an amount of total time used the kernel shuts down or halts?
[10:38] <phlak_user> Ycarene, by that do you mean the PC itself?
[10:38] <stimpie> Ycarene, man shutdown
[10:38] <Ycarene> phlak_user - Yes
[10:39] <phlak_user> Ycarene, you can pass a time to the shutdown command like stimpie pointed out
[10:39] <Ycarene> phlak_user - so that, after say, two weeks of use the kernel will shut down or halt the system and subsequent reboots halt or shut down.
[10:40] <phlak_user> Ycarene, you mean it should never start again after 2 weeks?
[10:40] <Ycarene> phlak_user - right
[10:40] <phlak_user> Ycarene, why?
[10:40] <tyska> guys, how i do a umount in the root partition???
[10:40] <histo> vyciook: cool you should be good to go then
[10:40] <Ycarene> phlak_user - can it be done within the kernel without using a helper application?
[10:41] <Ycarene> tyska - you don't
[10:41] <histo> vyciook: man rfkill if you want to learn about it. I found it doing a google search for your problem and wireless chipset.
[10:41] <vyciook> ok thank you ;)
[10:41] <histo> tyska: are you trying to remount it?
[10:41] <private_meta> so, when using fdisk and using "l" to list the known file systems supported by fdisk, how can I show some sort of long name of these support file system names?
[10:41] <phlak_user> Ycarene, not sure i understand;
[10:41] <tyska> =( i need to recover my files that was deleted in the root partition
[10:41] <smittix> Does anyone know how to launch the "startup applications" app from the terminal
[10:42] <Ycarene> phlak_user - suppose I want to make a distribution that expires after a certain amount of time.
[10:42] <histo> tyska: hard poweroff the machine and boot a live cd
[10:42] <tyska> histo: great, i will do this
[10:42] <histo> tyska: I would just pull the plug to prevent the files from being over written
[10:42] <stimpie> Ycarene, then you should modify the kernel
[10:42] <neure> i have 10.04 and ntpdate 0.pool.ntp.org complains no server suitable for synchronization found
[10:42] <harsh343> phlak_user, see right now i m not able to copy and paste  my file from one location to another location
[10:42] <phlak_user> Ycarene, self-destruct?
[10:42] <tyska> histo: do you know if the extundelete is the best option to recover files from a ext4 partition?
[10:42] <harsh343> so how can i do that ?
[10:42] <neure> meanwhile host 0.pool.ntp.org finds 3 ip addresses
[10:42] <Ycarene> phlak_user - kinda
[10:43] <neure> what could be the problem?
[10:43] <phlak_user> harsh343, i remember you from before; you need to understand file and user permissions
[10:43] <histo> tyska: I would follow the factoids from ubottu
[10:43] <histo> !undelete > tyska
[10:43] <vyciook> histo, btw evry time when i restart my pc i have to enter the command?
[10:43] <harsh343> phlak_user, how can i give permissions ???
[10:44] <histo> vyciook: I don't know you'll have to try and see. If so you can write a script that will execute it for you on boot.
[10:44] <phlak_user> Ycarene, hmm; you could issue a timed format or some such command that destroys the OS ; I dont think its in the scope of this channel
[10:44] <phlak_user> !chown | harsh343
[10:45] <phlak_user> harsh343, the objective of this channel is to help you if you encounter issues *after* trying out something on your own
[10:45] <harsh343> phlak_user, ok thanks i m going to read now
[10:45] <phlak_user> harsh343, ok
[10:45] <vyciook> hm, and where do i need enter this that it can load on boot?
[10:46] <vyciook> srry for my bad eng :)
[10:47] <histo> vyciook: are you sure you'll need to? did you try rebooting?
[10:47] <neure> hello?
[10:47] <neure> http://codepaste.net/g1bmn8
[10:47] <phlak_user> GeorgeJ, take a look at this for your solution -> http://developer.gnome.org/gio/2.28/GSettings.html
[10:47] <vyciook> no, i just want to now in future if me need this :)
[10:47] <neure> why is ntpdate not working?-(
[10:47] <vyciook> to other scripts
[10:48] <GeorgeJ> phlak_user: Thanks, the indicator shows now, I just had an invalid icon name, no need to whitelist
[10:48] <phlak_user> GeorgeJ, ok
[10:48] <GeorgeJ> phlak_user: I'm looking into the default list of icons for Ubuntu 11.10 that I can use, or how to use custom items
[10:49] <Ycarene> phlak_user - I don't really want it to destroy anything, just shutdown and stop booting after a certain amount of time.
[10:49] <phlak_user> Ycarene, sorry cant help you there;
[10:50] <smittix> Does anyone know how to launch the "startup applications" app from the terminal
[10:51] <histo> smittix: gnome-session-properties
[10:51] <smittix> histo: Thankyou!
[10:53] <nnx> how do i get the id number for a program i want to kill ?
[10:53] <histo> nnx: with ps  or top
[10:54] <histo> nnx: ps aux | grep program name
[10:55] <nnx> ty
[10:56] <rnqlover> ку
[10:59] <catphish> it seems ubuntu 10.04 running mysql crashes with a divide by zero after 200 days :)
[10:59] <catphish> quite unpleasant :)
[11:00] <fanta01> when trying to play back a DVD under on new 11.10 install,  I can hear the sound, but the screen is black -  is there any additional packaga I need to install? I already have restricted extras and libdvdcss
[11:02] <phlak_user> fanta01, using which program? totem?
[11:02] <fanta01> yes
[11:02] <fanta01> same happens with VLS as well
[11:02] <fanta01> *VLC
[11:02] <_r00t_> can anyone help me diagnose why speedstep is not working ? The appropriate directories under /sys/devices/system/cpu/ are never set up no matter what kernel I use. On the same machine with same BIOS settings - windows 7 and windows 8 speedstep works as expected
[11:07] <kaboom12_yyt> hola amigos
[11:08] <phlak_user> !es| kaboom12_yyt
[11:08] <sorush20> one of the kernels that I login with give me a blank screen. Can anyone help?
[11:08] <japro> phlak_user, grüezi
[11:09] <phlak_user> fanta01, look inside the messages panel of VLC, it might complain about something
[11:09] <catphish> sorush20: you get a blank screen after logging in? on the console or gui?
[11:09] <fanta01> phlak_user: will take a look, thanks
[11:10] <sorush20> catphish: no not when I log in .. when I start and select the kernel to start ubuntu
[11:10] <catphish> oh, what kernel?
[11:10] <private_meta> http://imgur.com/8utZh <-- can someone tell me how to differentiate between the marked file systems when doing fdisk and listing supported systems?
[11:11] <sorush20> catphish: how do I bring up a list of kernels?
[11:11] <luist> just installed tor and /etc/init.d/tor start will give me: Not starting tor daemon (Disabled in /etc/default/tor)  which is a lie, cuz my /etc/default/tor has RUN_DAEMON="yes"    any help?
[11:11] <private_meta> sorush20: kernels that are in the repository?
[11:11] <catphish> sorush20: surely you have a list of kernels if you're choosing one?
[11:12] <sorush20> catphish: sorry I got to go now..
[11:13] <catphish> ok
[11:13] <phlak_user> luist, does that file also have Enable=yes
[11:14] <phlak_user> luist, you could paste the output of cat /etc/default/tor to paste.ubuntu.org
[11:15] <luist> phlak_user: ok
[11:16] <phlak_user> private_meta, look here -> http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html
[11:16] <private_meta> ahahaha
[11:16] <luist> phlak_user: http://pastie.org/2792872
[11:17] <private_meta> phlak_user: read that already, for example, doesn't help for the NTFS one
[11:17] <private_meta> phlak_user: the marked NTFS entry has two types and nowhere is it explained what the difference is
[11:17] <private_meta> phlak_user: the page doesn'T explain it ieither
[11:18] <phlak_user> luist, that file looks fine; are you doing sudo /etc/init.d/tor start ? or you could even do sudo service tor start
[11:19] <luist> phlak_user: yep both give the same message
[11:20] <phlak_user> private_meta,  sudo sfdisk -T gives you a better looking list
[11:20] <phlak_user> luist, do you have vidalia installed?
[11:20] <luist> phlak_user: heres an strace that might give a hint: http://pastie.org/2792889
[11:21] <luist> phlak_user: yes
[11:21] <private_meta> phlak_user: ah ok... thanks, that explains SOME of the entries, but not all of them
[11:21] <private_meta> phlak_user: but still thank you
[11:21] <luist> phlak_user: ops i used restart in the strace
[11:22] <luist> phlak_user: well it opens /etc/default/tor and /etc/default/tor.vidalia
[11:22] <biga> how do i cd to Downloads subdirectory in the home directory? cd Downloads doesnt do it?
[11:23] <phlak_user> luist, ah gotcha :) well vidalia doesnt let tor start as a daemon; so starting vidalia should suffice
[11:23] <phlak_user> luist, look here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1651263
[11:23] <jrib> biga: cd ~/Downloads
[11:23] <luist> phlak_user: ooooh and /etc/default/tor.vidalia has RUN_DAEMON=no
[11:23] <luist> phlak_user: dang it
[11:23] <luist> phlak_user: works now :P
[11:23] <jrib> biga: « cd Downloads » would only work if you are currently in home
[11:25] <biga> jrib: that did it. why is ~ needed?
[11:25] <raven_> lvm pvcreate: cannot setup pv: Can't open /dev/sdc exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[11:25] <jrib> biga: ~ is short for your home
[11:25] <jrib> biga: if your home directory is /home/biga then ~ means /home/biga
[11:26] <raven_> any suggestions?
[11:26] <biga> jrib: cool. thanks for the help!
[11:31] <raven_> lvm pvcreate: cannot setup pv: Can't open /dev/sdc exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:36] <raven_> lvm pvcreate: cannot setup pv: Can't open /dev/sdc exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[11:36] <White--> Anyone got an idea why chrome keeps aksing for beeing the default browser?
[11:39] <RubenHaan> hi i know that there is an easy way to share your internetconnection on ubuntu. (wifi) but i cant find it. i just want it without password. can someone tell me how to do this?
[11:39] <dr_willis> White--: perhaps some of your setting files are owned by root, so it cant set  the setting to tell it to not ask.. (just a guess)
[11:39] <dr_willis> !ics
[11:40] <White--> dr_willis, that makes sense, gotta check this, thanks
[11:43] <Promille> Is there any good _free_ dictionary for linux(pref not through wine)..?
[11:43] <BridgeCollapse> Open Oxford Dictionary, I think
[11:44] <Promille> BridgeCollapse: thanks i'll check it out
[11:44] <histo> White--: because it's not set as default
[11:45] <RubenHaan> i wonder why the option of sharing internet is so much more complex then keeping it for yourself. (i wonder if a bot can answer this to)
[11:45] <White--> just playing around with it, when setting it as the prefered browser in the settings chrome comes up
[11:45] <White--> when than selecting to have it as default browser, in the preffered apps, it is no longer set
[11:46] <kornez> hi! where should i install java on ubuntu?
[11:46] <kornez> which folder is better? does it make any difference?
[11:46] <karaguellek> Hey how can i make my own hotkeys in ubuntu 11.10
[11:47] <White--> kornez, easiest is probably to use Lffl repository
[11:47] <SwedeMike> kornez: how are you planning to install it? Use the repositories using dpkg or alike.
[11:47] <kornez> i want to have sun java
[11:48] <kornez> how to install - i don't know yet
[11:48] <kornez> trying to understand
[11:48] <kornez> i think i'd type ./javasource.bin   - is that good?
[11:48] <posix> no no kornez
[11:48] <posix> use the software center
[11:49] <CyborgSmurf> I need help with installing graphics driver 11.10
[11:49] <kornez> is has no sun java.....
[11:49] <kornez> :(
[11:49] <Promille> BridgeCollapse: Cant find any open version of OED =/
[11:49] <SwedeMike> kornez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[11:49] <posix> just google it, yes
[11:50] <White--> kornez, read my message :) use the lffl repository
[11:50] <CyborgSmurf> BTW I have no drivers displayed in "Additional Drivers" section... Help please!
[11:50] <posix> cyborg download the driver from manufacturers page
[11:50] <posix> and istall it manually
[11:51] <histo> CyborgSmurf: what type of card?
[11:51] <posix> you will get the latest version
[11:51] <histo> !google | posix
[11:51] <CyborgSmurf> histo: nVidia i think
[11:51] <posix> google-fu, lol :)
[11:52] <histo> !nvidia | CyborgSmurf
[11:52] <posix> lspci
[11:52] <posix> @CyborgSmurf user "lspci" command to find out
[11:52] <histo> posix: also you can't get sun's java from the software center
[11:52] <raven_> lvm pvcreate: cannot setup pv: Can't open /dev/sdc exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[11:53] <CyborgSmurf> ubottu: thanks
[11:53] <posix> @histo not by default
[11:53] <histo> kornez: you have to get java from oracle it's no longer in the software center. Or you can use openjdk and icedtea
[11:53] <histo> posix: not by any legal means it shouldn't be
[11:53] <posix> @histo yes
[11:53] <histo> posix: oracle's restrictions on it.
[11:54] <posix> i hope this will change soon...
[11:54] <histo> posix: doubtfull
[11:54] <posix> well, i'm voting the pirate party
[11:54] <histo> I only suspect things will get much worse for linux users
[11:54] <CyborgSmurf> ubottu: Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[11:54] <posix> histo: i think it will be better
[11:55] <histo> CyborgSmurf: Is there any other graphics cards listed?
[11:55] <histo> CyborgSmurf: if not that is an intel card and your drivers are already installed
[11:55] <CyborgSmurf> histo: no none
[11:55] <histo> CyborgSmurf: then your drivers are good. they are already present
[11:57] <CyborgSmurf> histo: but when I view the system info, the driver is unknown...
[11:57] <histo> CyborgSmurf: what system info?
[11:58] <CyborgSmurf> histo: system settings...> system info
[11:59] <kornez> may i use manual installation from a bin file from java.com?
[11:59] <kornez> i don't understand a thing in all these repositories
[12:00] <raven_> lvm pvcreate: cannot setup pv: Can't open /dev/sdc exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[12:00] <histo> kornez: is there a reason you don't want to use openjdk?
[12:00] <kornez> i don't know if it's good
[12:01] <kornez> and my friend told me it's buggy also. he is 10 years linux user
[12:03] <BluesKaj> kornez, what are you going use java for, just ordinary webcontent or are you going to some creative stuff wiith it
[12:03] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:03] <kornez> i'd use eclipse
[12:04] <kornez> at least. don't know for more
[12:05] <neure> uh
[12:05] <neure> my nfs mount just blocks
[12:05] <neure> nfs server does not mount on boot, i need to manually execute "exportfs -a"
[12:05] <neure> but still i cant mount those :*
[12:05] <neure> :/
[12:06] <harsh343> alternate of Filezilla FTP server for ubantu ???
[12:06] <harsh343> 11.04
[12:06] <harsh343> ubuntu*
[12:07] <harsh343> sry 11.10 version
[12:09] <iceroot> harsh343: filezilla is not a server, its a client
[12:10] <harsh343> ok
[12:10] <iceroot> harsh343: so you need a client or a server?
[12:12] <harsh343> iceroot, yes but how i m newbie in ubuntu 11.10
[12:12] <harsh343> ???
[12:13] <iceroot> harsh343: hm, "yes" does not make sense to the question if you need a server or a client
[12:14] <harsh343> yes i need server or a client but how ?
[12:14] <iceroot> harsh343: or?
[12:14] <albech> anyone else experience problems with gnome shell recently. when going to the overview it does not render correctly
[12:14] <iceroot> harsh343: i dont get what you need exactly
[12:15] <albech> wish i could have stayed with the old gnome 2 :(
[12:15] <harsh343> i need an ftp server like filezilla for ubantu ???
[12:15] <histo> !ftp | harsh343
[12:15] <histo> !ftpd > harsh343
[12:16] <iceroot> harsh343: filezilla is NOT a server
[12:16] <iceroot> harsh343: if you want filezilla as a client use "sudo apt-get install filezilla"
[12:16] <histo> harsh343: you can use filezilla in ubuntu
[12:17] <harsh343> histo, no i can use filezilla on windows
[12:17] <harsh343> only
[12:18] <iceroot> harsh343: can you please write a complete sentecne what you want, what is not working and so on? we dont understand what you want
[12:18] <iceroot> harsh343: if english is not your language, there are channels with other languages too
[12:18] <deej1976> harsh343: start a terminal and run:
[12:18] <deej1976> sudo apt-get install filezilla
[12:19] <harsh343> deej1976, ok
[12:19] <jasonpft> hi i installed compiz how can i remove it and go back to unity and reset everything
[12:19] <harsh343> iceroot, i know english
[12:19] <jasonpft> hello?
[12:19] <keithclark> I don't seem to be able to format my usb memory stick with Disk Utility.  When I do it gives me an error message that the drive is busy.  No other programs are accessing the drive.  I have tried unmounting and mounting several times, any ideas?
[12:20] <harsh343> deej1976, now what next i installed ?
[12:20] <scarleo> How do I change the credentials for an "Online account"? I have changed password on my gmail and it says I need to login, however clicking Login does nothing, nor can I edit my password anywhere
[12:20] <jasonpft> hi i installed compiz how can i remove it and go back to unity and reset everything
[12:20] <jasonpft> ^
[12:20] <bekks> jasonpft: Please be patient - if someone knows the answer, he/she will tell it to you. And do not ask every two minutes please.
[12:20] <deej1976> in the terminal type filezilla
[12:20] <kornez> i've got a view directly in cmd, displaying licence agreement, i can pageup, pagedown, but what do i do to continue?
[12:20] <kornez> now i'm installing sun java from repo
[12:21] <azedmint> how can I get ride of the cam icon on gmail when using pidgin for gtlak?
[12:21] <harsh343> deej1976, okkkk
[12:21] <iceroot> kornez: there is no sun-java in the repos anymore
[12:21] <kornez> anybody knows which controls availiable there?
[12:21] <jasonpft> is unity the same as compiz?
[12:21] <Myrtti> jasonpft: no
[12:21] <crizzy> jasonpft: unity is a compiz plugin
[12:21] <jasonpft> does it require compiz?
[12:21] <jasonpft> ah
[12:21] <jasonpft> so removing compiz won't help
[12:21] <iceroot> crizzy: even for gnome3?
[12:22] <crizzy> iceroot: yes
[12:22] <jasonpft> I want to get back to my standard ubuntu unity desktop
[12:22] <iceroot> crizzy: i thought its just compiz on gnome2
[12:22] <jasonpft> as I bought the pc
[12:22] <jasonpft> can u help?
[12:22] <kornez> iceroot - well, i'm using one..... it's actually from that link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[12:22] <scarleo> Also, to what should I target my bug report?
[12:22] <crizzy> gnome2/3 doesn't have anything to do with compiz, really
[12:22] <crizzy> compiz is a window/composite manager
[12:22] <kornez> i've added a repo location sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"
[12:22] <iceroot> kornez: hm, normally that is not allowed, dont know why it is still in the repos for lucid
[12:23] <jasonpft> ok so how do I get back to default unity desktop?
[12:23] <iceroot> !info sun-java6-jdk lucid
[12:23] <iceroot> ah !info is not searching partner-repo
[12:23] <crizzy> jasonpft: what you mean by 'standard unity desktop'?
[12:23] <kornez> well, i see this http://pastebin.com/AAS4V4nY
[12:24] <iceroot> kornez: space
[12:24] <iceroot> kornez: should enable the "OK"
[12:24] <kornez> pace not working
[12:24] <jasonpft> crizzy:  well when I installed ubuntu i had a standard unity desktop
[12:24] <jasonpft> then i fucked it up
[12:24] <jasonpft> how can I revert back?
[12:25] <kornez> ok is not clickable
[12:25] <crizzy> jasonpft: define 'fooked up'? :D
[12:25] <kornez> *space not working
[12:25] <jasonpft> crizzy:  Installed the compiz package and everything changed
[12:25] <jasonpft> :X
[12:25] <crizzy> jasonpft: compiz is installed by default? O_o unity _is_ a compiz plugin
[12:25] <jasonpft> well I managed to install compiz and then uninstall it
[12:26] <jasonpft> should I just purge compiz and unity and install unity?
[12:26] <jasonpft> :P
[12:26] <jasonpft> to start over?
[12:26] <kornez> tabs work
[12:26] <kornez> ))
[12:26] <crizzy> jasonpft: you probably managed to remove 'ubuntu-desktop' package too, so install that back, it should install all the required stuff back
[12:26] <jasonpft> crizzy:  ubuntu-desktop will over write whatever I have on there now?
[12:26] <jasonpft> and also use unity?
[12:26] <crizzy> it will install all default packages back
[12:27] <Loptr> I created a "mount --bind" symlink and now i cant delete it even as root
[12:27] <Loptr> Do someone know a way?
[12:27] <bekks> Loptr: "umount".
[12:27] <crizzy> jasonpft: unity --reset will also reset unity back to default settings
[12:27] <Leao> How do i set the default anchoring location of a program when i start it up ?
[12:27] <Leao> i.e: Gedit
[12:28] <harsh343> deej1976, ok now i am able to enter in filezilla, but not able to download any particular file
[12:28] <Loptr> bekks, it tells me that the device is budy
[12:28] <Loptr> and i don't use it for anything
[12:28] <bekks> Loptr: Then stop all processes using it. It doesnt lie :)
[12:28] <harsh343> they shown me failed to open "something" for writing
[12:28] <Loptr> I'll check for something in the background, thanks
[12:29] <pocata> I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 I am with my laptop and when I close the laptop lid it sleeps and then open it again and press any button is included but it stays black screen anyone can help
[12:29] <kornez>  how can i check that java is installed?
[12:29] <harsh343> File transfer failed
[12:29] <icewaterman> how can i use gdm to autologin a user?
[12:31] <pocata> ??:)
[12:32] <jasonpft> hi what's the best way to ensure apt-get is clean and there are no failed installs lurking
[12:32] <jasonpft> or broken things
[12:32] <Guest21654> hi. I upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and then install gnome-shell to get back to Gnome2. But GRID plugin on CCSM doesn't work anymore. Not catching key combo Ctrl-Alt-KB9. It does capture Ctrl-Alt-rarrow to switch workspaces. What's up?
[12:34] <harsh343> I am using filezilla ftp but not able to download any file, error display: file transfer failed
[12:34] <glebihan> Guest21654, 1) gnome-shell is not gnome2, 2) gnome-shell does not use compiz so ccsm is useless
[12:34] <aaa_> before upgrading to 11.10, i had 3 menus on the top of the screen (applications, locations, system) and a bar at the bottom that showed me what windows are open (similar to windows XP). now i have a sidebar on auto-hide instead. how can i get back (especially to the open windows bar)?
[12:35] <Guest21654> glebihan: how can I activate window positioning key combos then?
[12:35] <harsh343> what can i do for downloading????
[12:35] <Guest21654> harsh343: firefox
[12:36] <deej1976> harsh343: Can you ping the server you are trying to connect to?
[12:36] <rubla> Oneric has XDG "Desktop" folder not localized for some reason. I want to fix that for all users on the system, but changing /etc/skel doesn't work for new users. Where exactly in the code the untranslated "Desktop" dir is created?
[12:36] <pocata> I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 I am with my laptop and when I close the laptop lid it sleeps and then open it again and press any button is included but it stays black screen anyone can help???
[12:36] <glebihan> Guest21654, no idea sorry (not sure there is an equivalent to that in gnome-shell)
[12:37] <Guest21654> drat, what a loss
[12:37] <Guest21654> pocata: did you move mouse?
[12:37] <rubla> If I run xdg-user-dirs-update, it's fixed, but again, not for users not created yet.
[12:38] <glebihan> Guest21654, you could install gnome-panel and gnome-fallback-session, that will give you a gnome2-like environment in which you'll be able to use compiz if you want
[12:38] <bobbaluba> does anyone have some experience with apple bluetooth mice/keyboards?
[12:38] <bobbaluba> i spent a lot of time just connecting them, and after i restarted, they seem unable too reconnect
[12:39] <kornez> what does 'headless' for jre mean?
[12:39] <pocata> Guest21654 : and do not want
[12:39] <Loptr> How to change the permissions of automount HDD on ubuntu, i tried with chmod but it doesnt work
[12:39] <Guest21654> glebihan: if that's the only way to get back to sane windows then I'm in. moving windows to sections of the screen was everything I needed. thanks, I try now
, headless usually means that the computer have no screen/keyboard/mouse attached. it should only be used on servers that you want to manage from another computer (mostly using web-interface)
[12:41] <Guest21654> pocata: closing lid was a problem with my mom's laptop. she had to shutdown and wait for it to shutdown before closing, otherwise it would stay and you'd have to open it again and click button (shuts down immediately) and close again. it was just that last step ubuntu got stuck on
[12:41] <aaa_> before upgrading to 11.10, i had 3 menus on the top of the screen (applications, locations, system) and a bar at the bottom that showed me what windows are open (similar to windows XP). now i have a sidebar on auto-hide instead. how can i get back (especially to the open windows bar)?
[12:42] <Guest21654> glebihan: E: Unable to locate package gnome-fallback-session
[12:42] <glebihan> aaa_, on unity I don't think you can. The way to switch between opened windows is to use the sidebar
[12:43] <glebihan> Guest21654, sorry it's gnome-session-fallback
[12:43] <qmanjr5> How do I find the mountpoint of something mounted with Archive Mounter?
[12:43] <Guest21654> aaa_: they thought everyone wants to keep everything they own in one bag - pens, bananas, tissues, CDs. It sucks, i know.
[12:44] <phlak_user> qmanjr5, type mount in a terminal
[12:44] <aaa_> so how do i use something else?
[12:44] <qmanjr5> phlak_user, it's not listed
[12:44] <Guest21654> aaa_: follow me! hahahaa
[12:44] <phlak_user> qmanjr5, did you mount an iso?
[12:45] <qmanjr5> Yeah
[12:45] <glebihan> aaa_, just as I said to Guest21654, you can install gnome-panel and gnome-session-fallback to get a gnome2-like environment. Otherwise you could try another desktop environment (such as kde, xfce, lxde...)
[12:45] <Guest21654> Gnome3 also has the same thing. Only reasonable option is Gnome2 in my opinion. Other interfaces like XFCD L... aren't mature enough. aaa_
[12:46] <aaa_> thanks guys
[12:46] <glebihan> Guest21654, keep in mind that it's not gnome2 anyway. It looks like gnome2 but it's still gnome3 and gnome-panel in gnome-session-fallback has less functionalities than in gnome2
[12:46] <phlak_user> qmanjr5, typically loop devices are mounted on /mnt
[12:47] <Guest21654> glebihan: right. ok, well it seems I already have it all in front of me. Not what I was hoping for.
[12:47] <dr_willis> gnome2 is dead.. time to move on.. :()
[12:48] <_peteris___> havent you noticed that ubuntu 11.10+gnome-session-fallback= some shortcuts doesnt work(like alt+f2 or alt+f1)
[12:49] <_peteris___> has anyone had this problem and hat it solved?
[12:49] <Guest21654> dr_willis: I'm open to change, but why Unity and Gnome got to be so dang similar. They both have that stupid thing on the left cramping my style
[12:50] <babble> (double post, sorry)
[12:50] <babble> hey all: I've been trying to make a bootable system backup with relinux (fork of remastersys, which had the *same* problem, I'll get to); either one would hang at the 'scanning cdrom' apt stage leaving the system unconfigured (dpkg and update-grub wouldn't run). I've worked around THAT by copying dists and pool from a livecd - apt runs as it needs to and everything works, *sort of* but Ubiquity now crashes at the END of the install. I have the output of its
[12:50] <babble> debug log.
[12:50] <qmanjr5> phlak_user, it's not.
[12:50] <qmanjr5> :(
[12:50] <FloodBot1> babble: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:50] <Guest21654> who's idea was that anyway? Does Apple use on of those?
[12:50] <babble> (sorry, Floodbot. heh)
[12:50] <scwizard> hello, if I wget http://wordpress.org/latest.tar.gz then the downloaded file is named "latest.tar.gz"
[12:51] <scwizard> however if I download the file in firefox the file is named wordpress-3.2.1.tar.gz
[12:51] <scwizard> what is the reason for this difference?
[12:51] <scwizard> and how can I get wget to behave more like firefox when it comes to naming downloads?
[12:51] <phlak_user> qmanjr5, look in your .gvfs folder
[12:51] <qmanjr5> Where's that? ~ or /
[12:52] <pbt> scwizard: read the man page
[12:52] <scwizard> I'm reading it again
[12:52] <Guest95894> Hi, is there a way to map backspace to alt + esc using xmodmap?
[12:52] <dr_willis> qmanjr5:  / would be the system 'root' directory.. users stuff is in their own home dir. ie: ~ or /home/username
[12:52] <bobbaluba> my bluetooth keyboard fails to reconnect after reboot, any suggestions? Q&A posts claiming this is a bug causing the pairing keys to not get saved and that the only solution is to build the bluetooth daemon from scratch. To me this seems rather drastic and too much of a hassle, any suggestions?
[12:52] <qmanjr5> Got it, thanks.
[12:53] <JadedJacob> When I put my laptop into standby, the screen doesn't come back on when I wake it, fans spin up but no screen
[12:53] <JadedJacob> It's an Asus F5R
[12:53] <scwizard> pbt: I can't find anything about this in the man page, it doesn't mean its not there though
[12:54] <bobbaluba> if i press buttons on the keyboard, the bluetooth applet shows my keyboard as connected for a brief moment, then disconnects after a short interval
[12:54] <LK-> Is it possible to make adduser not prompt for setting user info?
[12:55] <phlak_user> LK-, useradd
[12:55] <LK-> phlak_user: I'm aware of useradd. but I was asking about adduser
[12:55] <scwizard> LK-: the whole point of adduser is that it prompts for everything
[12:55] <scwizard> so no
[12:56] <phlak_user> LK-, either use it or dont
[12:56] <LK-> I see. Thought there may have been a conf option or something of the likes.
[12:56] <pbt> scwizard: download by wget and output to another name. It has option for that. u can also using perl to parse the url to get whatever file name u want :)
[12:56] <scwizard> no such thing in this case
[12:57] <scwizard> pbt: here's the thing, the url is http://wordpress.org/latest.tar.gz
[12:57] <bhavesh> Can I add icons to GNOME 3.2 shell like I did in GNOME 2?
[12:57] <cablop> hello ubunteers
[12:57] <scwizard> I have no ida how firefox is figuring out to name it wordpress-3.2.1.tar.gz
[12:57] <bhavesh> or shortcuts?
[12:57] <cablop> simple question
[12:57] <scwizard> so I wouldn't know how to go about writing a script to get it named wordpress-3.2.1.tar.gz
[12:57] <scwizard> clearly something more is going on than parsing the url
[12:58] <cablop> i plan to install ubuntu 64 bits on my desktop, any recommended size for the root partition?
[12:58] <histo> cablop: 10gi
[12:58] <histo> cablop: or smaller. It hold all your apps and system wide configs. Your /home is where all your user data is
[12:58] <cablop> histo: just 10! o.O
[12:58] <cablop> ?
[12:59] <Virus_jpg> hehe
[12:59] <bhavesh> cablop, I gave it 140GB.. just 50GB would be enough with all extra apps.
[12:59] <cablop> mmm, i don't know how to set up the things nowadays, lol
[12:59] <Virus_jpg> cablop hello
[12:59] <cablop> hello
[12:59] <cablop> all extra apps?
[13:00] <cablop> i just want normal usage, and development, maybe a little gaming
[13:00] <cablop> as for he swap, i know the rule of 2x ram or 2.5 ram is not exactly what we need now
[13:00] <Virus_jpg> i am broadcasting on Blogtv this chatroom right now
[13:00] <scwizard> cablop: it depends on how big your hd is
[13:00] <scwizard> I wouldn't worry about it, you can always resize the partion later
[13:00] <cwl> do you use lubuntu?
[13:00] <cablop> but willing to go for 1.5x~2x size of ram for the swap
[13:00] <histo> Virus_jpg: what is blogtv?
[13:01] <bhavesh> cablop, I installed a lot of "Extra apps" and still just 31GB got used
[13:01] <cablop> lol
[13:01] <cablop> maybe i'll give it just 50 GB
[13:01] <bhavesh> use zram if u wanna use your swap efficiently
[13:01] <scwizard> you can always resize it later
[13:01] <bhavesh> yes u can
[13:01] <cablop> and no resize, because i am going to run it on top of a LUKS encryption
[13:01] <Virus_jpg> blogtv.com/analyzingfunny. I am using Ubuntu with Webcamstudio to broadcast this chat and my desktop
[13:01] <scwizard> cablop: resizing shoudl still be theoreticalyl possible, but yeah lol
[13:01] <cablop> bhavesh: zram? what is that?
[13:01] <scwizard> I guess not
[13:02] <bhavesh> cablop, http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=webupd8%20zram&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webupd8.org%2F2011%2F10%2Fincreased-performance-in-linux-with.html&ei=2u2vTr3fMJHRrQfu98Bt&usg=AFQjCNGg9L0A9J1uBp936ALpu3sU0ywl2Q&sig2=5qnbBXFHJBTTcMsldDBJEA
[13:02] <cablop> scwizard: yes, i dfound some guides so long to resize encrypted partitions
[13:02] <bhavesh> that was a long url.. here's a short one: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/increased-performance-in-linux-with.html
[13:02] <buharin> who knows about wireless on macbook g4? can I work with it?
[13:03] <cablop> i was willing to use lvm on top of luks, but.... but i am afraid the encruption thing is still using just one thread per encrypted block device
[13:04] <JadedJacob> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/721795
[13:04] <amisotis> /dns mail.softvision.ro
[13:04] <Virus_jpg> thats a nice ram
[13:04] <scwizard> pbt: I found the answer https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=239351
[13:05] <Virus_jpg> i am starting to like this room, it is great to see thing I have NO idea what they are, I am just a user
[13:05] <amisotis> HELO
[13:05] <amisotis> So nerds
[13:05] <dp> is there a way to properly change from python2.7 to python2.6?
[13:05] <amisotis>                __.,
[13:05] <amisotis>          ,-'``` LLRRRRR
[13:05] <amisotis>       ,'`      LL R/ LLRLL
[13:05] <amisotis>      ¹¹        L .R     RLL
[13:05] <FloodBot1> amisotis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <cablop> lol amisotis xD
[13:06] <zsolt> hi there.got a serious problem.my debian installation is on a logical partition.I made a new partition with gparted.now my os is useless.the only soultion was to boot with recovery and to remount my root fs
[13:06] <glebihan> dp, you can install both versions at the same time
[13:06] <dp> glebihan: right, but the default points to 2.7
[13:06] <pbt> scwizard: ah ha. thats it.
[13:06] <dp> is there a way to switch that to 2.6?
[13:07] <dp> because gcalcli is broken against 2.7
[13:07] <cablop> anyone using luks here?
[13:07] <bekks> cablop: Feel free to just ask.
[13:08] <cablop> i did, and no answer bekks
[13:08] <iceroot> cablop: just ask the real question
[13:08] <glebihan> dp, you can just change the symlink (/usr/bin/python is a symlink to /usr/bin/python2.7)
[13:08] <amisotis> What's the best VRML software?  I need it to view http://www.astronautica.com/owds.html
[13:08] <afeijo> hi guys, I need to install a email server, with pop3, imap and smtp. Shall I use postfix + dovecot + mysql ?
[13:09] <cablop> i asked if is luks still not multiprocess or multithread ?
[13:09] <dp> glebihan: but that won't update python-dbg and python-dbg-config; hence my question
[13:09] <ortsvorsteher> amisotis, please do not go unasked in private channel
[13:09] <ortsvorsteher> !pm | amisotis
[13:09] <Gentoo64> he spammed everyone
[13:09] <Gentoo64> kick him
[13:09] <vytenis> how to turn on vga on my laptop in ubuntu? :/
[13:09] <iceroot> cablop: i guess that king of question is better in #luks (or what there channel is)
[13:09] <cablop> hmmm
[13:09] <vytenis> keyboard combination dosent work
[13:10] <raptor67682> hello
[13:10] <raptor67682> how to wget something and let wget check the size of the file on ftp and does download if  different?
[13:10] <zsolt> how is it possible to fix this problem?I need to use my rootfs normally
[13:10] <vytenis> histo, u here?
[13:11] <glebihan> dp, you'll have to install python2.6-dbg
[13:13] <iceroot> raptor67682: are there md5 files for the file?
[13:13] <dp> glebihan: not quite my point ;) in gentoo, I can 'eselect python set python2', I didn't know if there was a built-in way to do that in ubuntu
[13:14] <raptor67682> iceroot> nope. no md5
[13:14] <zsolt> the fstab file is ok,but don't know why is it read only
[13:14] <digitalfiz> hey guys I have a remote VM I need to resize the partitions on how can I do this?
[13:14] <digitalfiz> I don't have access to console but I had the IT department make the drive larger in VMWare
[13:14] <glebihan> dp, not that I know of. But replacing the symlink will do the exact same thing
[13:14] <digitalfiz> they refuse to work on linux so I have to resize it myself
[13:15] <dp> ok, apparently, I was wrong. gcalcli against 2.6 *or* 2.7 is broken
[13:16] <histo> digitalfiz: you'd have to unmount the partitions and grow them somehow
[13:16] <digitalfiz> histo, I can't do that from SSH though can I?
[13:16] <guntbert> digitalfiz: did you employ LVM?
[13:16] <digitalfiz> no I didn't do LVM
[13:16] <iceroot> raptor67682: best would be md5 the file on the server, md5 the file localy, check if different then download
[13:16] <histo> digitalfiz: hrm....
[13:16] <raptor67682> I was thinking either : wget -nc or wget -N, but it seems that it does not work
[13:16] <amisotis> What makes people use Ubuntu, I mean, why use something that's basically a ripoff of Debian sid
[13:16] <dp> but it works under debian python
[13:17] <iceroot> raptor67682: files can have the same size but may be different
[13:17] <amisotis> just because some rich coon gives discs through the mail for free
[13:17] <raptor67682> iceroot> I have no chances to get md5 :(
[13:17] <compdoc> amisotis, its much better than debian
[13:17] <iceroot> amisotis: you have a support-question?
[13:17] <histo> digitalfiz: can you boot the vm to a live cd?
[13:17] <digitalfiz> histo, I don't access to console
[13:17] <amisotis> /dns user-31-175-45-178.play-internet.pl
[13:17] <iceroot> amisotis: and remeber, sid is changing every day, ubuntu not
[13:17] <babble> amisotis: how can an open source project that encourages forking have any derivative be a 'ripoff?'
[13:17] <Ixan> hi, i'm having an issue installing from the alternate cd. using an usb-cdrom and it boots fine. later in the installer though, it stops saying it cant detect the cdrom. anyone know a fix?
[13:18] <szal> amisotis: that is not a support question, please continue w/ such topics in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:18] <histo> amisotis: ubuntu is not debian
[13:18] <pbt> :o
[13:18] <histo> digitalfiz: how'd you install the distro on the vm?
[13:18] <amisotis> histo: Yes it is.  It uses aptitude, it has packages that end in .deb, and it works almost exactly like debian
[13:18] <amisotis> the only difference is that there is a different configuartion utility and that there are more packages
[13:19] <digitalfiz> histo I built it locally and sent the vm files to my support department and they booted it
[13:19] <amisotis> configuration utility
[13:19] <guntbert> amisotis: stop that please
[13:19] <amisotis> Ubuntu's debian
[13:19] <histo> !troll | amisotis
[13:19] <p5yx> is the netbook remix not available anymore?
[13:19] <Myrtti> amisotis: take the discussion elsewhere, please.
[13:20] <histo> !unr | p5yx
[13:20] <vytenis> how to turn on vga ?
[13:20] <histo> digitalfiz: without booting the vm to a live cd or something I can't think of a way to do it. Perhaps someone else can.
[13:21] <histo> digitalfiz: what partitions are you planningon resizing?
[13:21] <digitalfiz> histo its ext3
[13:22] <digitalfiz> histo it was originally a 10gb partition I want to make 40gb
[13:22] <szal> vytenis: define 'turn on vga'
[13:22] <histo> digitalfiz: is everything on one / partition?
[13:22] <vytenis> i want to see my screen trought pc
[13:22] <digitalfiz> histo yes
[13:23] <someone-noone> Hello i
[13:23] <vytenis> when i connect cable nothing happneds
[13:23] <vytenis> and keyboard combination dosent work
[13:24] <vytenis> szal, any ideas? :/
[13:24] <someone-noone> Hello. i'm having a trouble using flash on latest ubuntu. I can't click "Allow" button in Security settings in any browser. Does anybody know how to solve such problem?
[13:25] <someone-noone> Or probably someone will tell me better channel to ask such question
[13:25] <SrPx> so im trying to compile something. this thing has several dependencies. the package manage versions are older. so i have to downoad every dependency and compile. but they have even more dependencies and this goes on. a
[13:25] <p5yx> ubottu: thx man
[13:25] <SrPx> is there a fastest way of installing those?
[13:25] <bekks> SrPx: No.
[13:26] <scarleo> someone-noone: I have the same, do you get the Flash settings when pressing windows button and searching for Flash? If so then set that site you're having trouble with to allow
[13:26] <histo> digitalfiz: you could create a seperate partition with the freespace then mount that to part of the filesystem.
[13:26] <bekks> SrPx: Not if the packages/version you need are not available by the repos.
[13:26] <glebihan> SrPx, is the package you're trying to compile in the repositories ?
[13:27] <dp> can anyone confirm that gcalcli on oneiric is broken, no matter python 2.6 or 2.7?
[13:27] <histo> digitalfiz: can't you have them boot the vm to an iso and then go fromthere?
[13:27] <albert__> Hey, can anybody link me a guide for how to setup an ati graphics card in the new ubuntu (11.10). i really don't get anything in google
[13:27] <someone-noone> scarleo: i have webpage on localhost. I have inserted "local", "/home/user/pathtohtml", "*", "/home/user/pathtohtml/test.html" into Global settings and it didn't help :(
[13:27] <histo> !ati | albert__
[13:27] <cgrs> plz someone knows how to start ubuntu without unity, and use gnome instead?
[13:28] <chroot> is ubuntu-10.04.3-server-amd64.iso can work on intel 64 machine
[13:28] <albert__> kek, ty
[13:28] <histo> chroot: yes
[13:28] <histo> chroot: that's what it's for 64bit cpus
[13:28] <SrPx> pardon what are repositories (you mean the ubuntu packages)? im trying to compile gedit 3+ (because the version 2.3, thats on ubuntu package manager. doesnt allow certain plugin)
[13:28] <glebihan> cgrs, which version of ubuntu are you running ?
[13:28] <chroot> histo, but it's amd64?
[13:28] <histo> SrPx: yes repositories hold the packages for ubuntu
[13:28] <chroot> my cpu is intel
[13:28] <cgrs> glebihan 11.10
[13:29] <lloyd> Multi-meida question on 10.04-LTS:  How can get DVD player to play a DVD.  Totem comes up but says it needs to search for "suitable" plugin, (it says that the required software to play the file is not installed).
[13:29] <histo> chroot: it's not for just amd cpus its for 64bit cpus
[13:29] <bekks> SrPx: Which ubuntu version do you have? Oneiric ships with gedit 3.2.0
[13:29] <histo> !amd64 | chroot
[13:29] <cgrs> ive got oneiric (11.10)
[13:29] <chroot> how about ubuntu-10.04.3-server-x86_64.iso
[13:29] <scarleo> someone-noone: Ok...? So did you do what I suggested? Or try visit this page to change your settings: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager03.html
[13:29] <SrPx> im not sure whats the version, i just downloaded the one available on the site a few weeks ago. how can i know?
[13:30] <histo> chroot: yes that's the intel one
[13:30] <kacung> !ebox
[13:30] <bekks> SrPx: By looking it up? :)
[13:30] <glebihan> cgrs, in that case, there isn't gnome2 anymore. If you don't like unity, you can try gnome-shell or another desktop environment (kde, xfce, lxde...)
[13:30] <SrPx> ..
[13:30] <bekks> SrPx: Open up a terminal and type: lsb_release -r
[13:30] <cgrs> ok, then i'll return to 10.04, thanx !
[13:30] <chroot> oh, but ubuntu-10.04.3-server-x86_64.iso has a desktop when i installed it ?
[13:30] <SrPx> 11.04
[13:31] <lloyd> MSG TO SELF: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:31] <histo> chroot: no it shouldn't
[13:31] <someone-noone> scarleo: i've already added path to directory with htmls and swfs at webpage you've sent to me. But it didn't help
[13:31] <chroot> ubuntu server dosen't have desktop, right?
[13:31] <histo> chroot: right
[13:31] <cgrs> but, unity and gnome3 are the same???
[13:31] <SrPx> :/
[13:31] <histo> cgrs: no
[13:31] <Tricen> Q: Have a duel head Radeon (DVI and VGA).  Got a stretched desktop working great.  However, the the monitor attached to the DVI head (converted into a VGA with an adaptor) randomly blinks on and off and sometimes goes off for up to 15 seconds before coming back on.  Any ideas?
[13:31] <chroot> histo, ok, i got it, thanks.
[13:31] <histo> cgrs: you can switch to classic mode
[13:31] <cgrs> whats the difference???
[13:31] <SrPx> seems like im not getting gedit 3 :/
[13:32] <bindi> Tricen: the monitor is probably dying
[13:32] <bekks> SrPx: You could update your entire ubuntu....
[13:32] <cgrs> oh, i know, but how can i return to gnome2 in 11.10??
[13:32] <histo> !notunity | cgrs
[13:32] <bindi> Tricen: unless you can confirm it working in another system
[13:32] <cgrs> ok!!!
[13:32] <dp> can anyone confirm that gcalcli on oneiric is broken, no matter python 2.6 or 2.7?
[13:32] <cgrs> thanx
[13:32] <glebihan> cgrs, you can't
[13:32] <Tricen> When I switch monitors to the other head, the problem switches monitors
[13:32] <cgrs> ok
[13:32] <Tricen> It can't be that
[13:32] <bindi> Tricen: faulty VGA cable?
[13:33] <SrPx> bekks: :/
[13:33] <raptor67682> bekks>     lsb_release -a | grep Codename | awk ' { print $2 } ' | tail -n 1
[13:33] <histo> Tricen: power management issue?
[13:33] <digitalfiz> histo I am going to walk the IT department through a live cd/gparted solution on a few test servers then go with the live server
[13:33] <Tricen> bindi: hadn't considered that, I'll try that.  Thanks
[13:33] <Tricen> histo: how so?
[13:33] <histo> Tricen: is it constantly blinking or just after some period of time?
[13:34] <rj_> hi
[13:34] <Tricen> histo: randomly after some time
[13:34] <rj_> hw aaare pyyu?
[13:34] <histo> Tricen: i'd first look at the vga cable and or the dvi/vga adapter as maybe being the issue first.
[13:34] <cgrs> gnome 3 "gnome-shell" is like gnome2 ui??
[13:34] <bekks> cgrs: No.
[13:35] <histo> Tricen: if it happens after say 5min of inactivity everytime then i'd look at power management maybe blanking the monitor then bringing it back etc...
[13:35] <cgrs> oh, then its like unity 2d, right?
[13:35] <histo> cgrs: no you wan the classic look then
[13:35] <histo> !classic | cgrs
[13:35] <Tricen> histo:  I'll look into that.  thanks
[13:35] <histo> cgrs: which I believe in 11.10 to enable classic mode you have to go to preferences and login manager then enable classic as the session.
[13:36] <SrPx> bekks: i almost managed to compile the version 3.0.3, i could install every dependency using the package manager, but when i try to build i get the error *** No rule to make target `Gedit-3.0.typelib'. Do you have an idea what that could be?
[13:36] <histo> cgrs: that will make it look like the previous version of ubuntu at the top with applications > sytem > etc...
[13:36] <cgrs> but in my version it shows only "Unity" and "Unity 2d"
[13:37] <cgrs> there is no classic mode :(
[13:37] <glebihan> cgrs, gnome-shell is very different from both gnome2 and unity. The only way to get a gnome2-like interface on oneiric is to use gnome-panel+gnome-session-fallback (but it won't have as many functionalities as gnome-panel in gnome2 and is only intended as a fallback)
[13:37] <cgrs> yes, then i use ubuntu 11.04 with Classic mode??
[13:38] <histo> cgrs: blogtv.com/analyzingfunny
[13:38] <lloyd> there's always xfce
[13:38] <histo> cgrs: ignore that wrong link hold up
[13:38] <cgrs> ok
[13:38] <histo> cgrs: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/08/return-to-ubuntu-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[13:38] <jiltdil> suppose i have Data mounted under media, to go to Data i use   amit@amit:~$cd /media/Data after this it looks like  amit@amit:/media/Data$     But i want to look it like amit@amit Data$     as like in fedora . Any idea how to do that?
[13:38] <glebihan> cgrs, you can. But keep in mind that gnome2 is heading to the end of its life
[13:38] <cgrs> thanx i'll take a look
[13:39] <chroot> histo, can you give me some advice?
[13:39] <cgrs> OMG!!!! thanx so much!
[13:39] <histo> chroot: on what?
[13:40] <sjihs> Is there a way to install the glider gtk theme?
[13:40] <chroot> i got a machine with 8GB mem and intel xen cpu,
[13:40] <chroot> and i want to install ubuntu server on it , which one should i install . the version?
[13:41] <Mafeki> can someone tell me how to configure your ipod as a flash drive for FAT32?
[13:41] <lloyd> chroot: 10.04-LTS
[13:41] <jiltdil> Any idea guys?
[13:41] <Gentoo64> chroot, any
[13:41] <histo> chroot: I would use 10.04LTS for a server
[13:41] <histo> chroot: LTS is long term support. Then next LTS is due out next April
[13:42] <histo> chroot: however 10.04 will be supported for sometime.
[13:42] <cbfarrand> want to try a printing question?
[13:42] <pbt> !ask
[13:42] <lloyd> chroot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[13:42] <chroot> but 10.04LTS is 32 bit, it can't handle 8GB mem, right?
[13:43] <lloyd> chroot: Sure it can
[13:43] <histo> chroot: no you can install 64bit 10.04LTS server
[13:43] <cbfarrand> did the upgrade to the latest version, now printer spitting out blank pages?
[13:43] <histo> lloyd: 32bit can not handle 8gig of ram
[13:43] <cbfarrand> sorry
[13:43] <chroot> histo, so 64bit is amd64 , that is for AMD cpu, not intel?
[13:43] <SrPx> im trying to compile gedit 3.0.3, but when i try to build, at the end i get the error *** No rule to make target `Gedit-3.0.typelib'. what that could be?
[13:43] <iceroot> chroot: amd and intel
[13:43] <histo> chroot: on the download page just select 10.04LTS server 64bit
[13:44] <ikonia> SrPx: it's not correctly configured
[13:44] <lloyd> histo: Well, I guess any more than 4G will be a waste.  Right?
[13:44] <cgrs> bye! plz follow me: twitter.com/63677273
[13:44] <deej1976> linux-generic-pae will allow 32-bit to use more memory
[13:44] <ikonia> SrPx: is there a reason you are trying to build it
[13:44] <albert__> hey, how do i change my used graphics driver? i seem to have installed all the necessary ati stuff, but catalyst tells me, the driver isn't there and/or used
[13:44] <ikonia> cgrs: please don't spam/advertise in this channel. Clear ?
[13:44] <histo> deej1976: no it won't
[13:44] <chroot> ok, thank you
[13:44] <deej1976> hmmm
[13:44] <histo> chroot: use 64 bit
[13:44] <chroot> thank you all guys
[13:44] <karaguellek> how can install sun java on my ubuntu 11.10??????????
[13:44] <histo> deej1976: anything over 4gigs won't be addressed in 32bit
[13:44] <SrPx> yes i need gedit 3+ but on software manager the latest version is 2.3
[13:45] <histo> karaguellek: you can use openjdk
[13:45] <histo> karaguellek: if you want sun's version then you have to get it from oracle
[13:45] <SrPx> how can i configure it properly? i ran ./configure and seemed like everything went allright
[13:45] <karaguellek> hista: i want to get minecraft to work and everybody says i need sun java
[13:45] <ahong> hi,everyone!
[13:45] <myka_l> hi
[13:45] <lloyd> histo: ... unless you install Physical Address Extension (PAE) kernel.
[13:45] <histo> SrPx: you may have to ask the gedit people as your question isn't related to ubuntu
[13:45] <albert__> hey, how do i change my used graphics driver? i seem to have installed all the necessary ati stuff, but catalyst tells me, the driver isn't there and/or used
[13:46] <Gentoo64> lloyd, afaik that gives you 4gb
[13:46] <ikonia> PAE will allow to over 16GB
[13:46] <deej1976> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[13:46] <cbfarrand> upgraded to 11.10, now my printer is spitting out blank pages?
[13:46] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[13:46] <ikonia> infact over 32GB
[13:46] <histo> lloyd: deej1976 sry didn't see pae
[13:46] <iceroot> Gentoo64: pae can handle more then 4gb but only ~1gb for earch process
[13:46] <lloyd> histo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[13:46] <SrPx> histo: where i can find gedit people?
[13:46] <karaguellek> histo: which one there is the sun java=?
[13:46] <deej1976> no probs
[13:46] <karaguellek> histo : http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
[13:46] <Gentoo64> doubt anyone would use pae though
[13:47] <histo> karaguellek: I don't know
[13:47] <lloyd> chroot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[13:47] <iceroot> histo: but if possible, reinstall with amd64 instead of installing pae-kernel
[13:47] <undefined_infini> Hello everyone! I am planning to set up a home file server. Is it ok to use core i5 processor for my server? If not what is your recommended processor.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> albert__, do your "desktop effects" work?
[13:47] <iceroot> undefined_infini: overkill
[13:47] <iceroot> undefined_infini: intel atom is enough
[13:47] <histo> iceroot: i'm not the one with the issue
[13:47] <Gentoo64> undefined_infini, any cpu
[13:47] <SrPx> ikonia: yes i need gedit 3+ but on software manager the latest version is 2.3. how can i configure it properly? i ran ./configure and seemed like everything went allright
[13:47] <chroot> lloyd, ok , i know that , with it os will search more address space
[13:47] <iceroot> histo: sorry
[13:48] <undefined_infini> iceroot, woah why?
[13:48] <histo> chroot: just use 64bit instead of 32bit trust me
[13:48] <Pici> SrPx: Your're probably not going to be able to get gedit 3.x in anything before 11.10, as it likely requires gnome3 things.
[13:48] <ikonia> SrPx: did you read the compile instructions and dependencies
[13:48] <histo> chroot: there is absolutely no reason to use 32bit server
[13:48] <iceroot> undefined_infini: because a file-server doesnt need a cou like i5
[13:48] <windparadise> hello, pls can someone tell me what does this command do ? getent passwd. any use >= UID 1000
[13:48] <Gentoo64> undefined_infini, you wont need a powerful cpu for just getting files
[13:48] <ikonia> SrPx: why do you "need" gedit3
[13:48] <iceroot> undefined_infini: wasted ressources
[13:48] <cbfarrand> did the update to 11.10, now printer printing blank pages?
[13:48] <lapion> In a virtualbox, I just tried to convert my home fs to btrfs, only to find out there is no tool to change the uuid of btrfs-fses
[13:48] <ikonia> windparadise: nothing of any value
[13:48] <SrPx> ikonia: because source browser plugin is only compatible for 3.0.0+
[13:48] <chroot> histo, lloyd just remind there is pae , but i will use 64bit too. for this will be faster
[13:48] <windparadise> ok,I want to list number of users in my account
[13:49] <windparadise> I mean list users
[13:49] <Gentoo64> chroot, just use 64 bit
[13:49] <windparadise> apart from root,
[13:49] <scottj> best service for seeing pictures people have taken at a specific location (or range) with a better UI than google maps photos?
[13:49] <windparadise> how do i check?
[13:49] <undefined_infini> iceroot & Gentoo64, ah i see.. so how much RAM is recommended for my server?
[13:49] <iceroot> scottj: #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:49] <Gentoo64> undefined_infini, anything
[13:49] <iceroot> undefined_infini: depending what you want to do
[13:49] <SrPx> ikonia: yes they just tell me to type ./configure, make and make install..
[13:49] <Gentoo64> undefined_infini, for stuff like that you can use like 50mb ram if the os can boot it
[13:50] <ikonia> SrPx: pastebin the output of ./configure
[13:50] <Gentoo64> most people use junk boxes for that
[13:50] <cbfarrand> did the upgrade to 11.10, now printing blank sheets?
[13:50] <_r00t_> lapion: why do yo need btrfs ?
[13:51] <lapion> does anyone know which tool can be used to change uuid of btrfs
[13:51] <histo> windparadise: check your /etc/passwd file
[13:51] <iceroot> undefined_infini: i am running a fileserver with xmbc, sabnzbplusd, lxde and i need 230mb (most is eaten by xbmc) so i guess 128mb is a very very igh value for something you want to do
[13:51] <Gentoo64> lapion, i wouldnt use btfs for important data btw
[13:51] <lapion> _r00t_, it's for experimenting..
[13:51] <Gentoo64> its very dodgy
[13:51] <iceroot> undefined_infini: cpu is the first intel atom
[13:51] <undefined_infini> Gentoo64, maybe 1gb will do.. it is hard to find 50mb nowadays
[13:51]  * _r00t_ agrees with Gentoo64
[13:51] <lapion> it's in a virtuaslbox on top of ubuntu
[13:51] <Gentoo64> undefined_infini, yeah.. just saying i wouldnt go spending out for it
[13:52] <cbfarrand> updated to 11.10 now printing blank sheets?
[13:52] <histo> undefined_infini: what do you plan on doing with the server?
[13:52] <Loptr> I added my ntfs partition to fstab but on restart ubuntu itself add them to another location and use fuseblk
[13:52] <undefined_infini> histo, just a file server :)
[13:52] <asrskz> What channel is best for getting help with Unity
[13:52] <lloyd> histo: windparadise Maybe a little simplier to look at /home/
[13:52] <Loptr> it just ignores my settings in the fstab
[13:52] <histo> undefined_infini: minimal ram then
[13:52] <lapion> since in place conversion is possible I want to try it, however if the uuid cannot be changed this cannot be done on a "working boot"
[13:52] <SrPx> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/rKPkxBKk
[13:52] <Gentoo64> asrskz, here
[13:52] <Gentoo64> probably
[13:53] <asrskz> thanks
[13:53] <histo> lloyd: true lol
[13:53] <_r00t_> lol ... probably we all hate unity in here
[13:53] <lloyd> _r00t_: DOn't count on it.
[13:53] <undefined_infini> histo, Gentoo64 & iceroot, thanks for the replies
[13:53] <lapion> Gentoo64, it's in a virtuaslbox on top of ubuntu
[13:53] <ikonia> SrPx: looks pretty reasonable, did it create a makefile
[13:53] <lapion> lloyd, exception to the r00le
[13:54] <cbfarrand> printing blank pages after 11.10 update?
[13:54] <asrskz> It is taking me a lot longer to do the things I used to do.  Maybe it is just a new paradigm.
[13:54] <lloyd> cbfarrand: What printer?
[13:54] <cbfarrand> Brother laser
[13:54] <undefined_infini> histo, Gentoo64 & iceroot, I'll go for atom with 1gb ram :)
[13:54] <lloyd> cbfarrand: What model?
[13:54] <SrPx> ikonia: this is the output http://pastebin.com/H3wb4c3Y
[13:54] <lloyd> cbfarrand: Check toner.
[13:54] <cbfarrand> HL-5340D, was working fine with previous version
[13:55] <ikonia> SrPx: ok - so the key there is not the last lime
[13:55] <_r00t_> undefined_infini: I run xbmc on a dual core SU2300 / ION and it flys
[13:55] <ikonia> line
[13:55] <asrskz> For instance I ssh to several computers in my home network.  I used to have a separate launcher on the top panel for each.  Each has it's own profile the color is different on each so when I see the terminal I know which computer I am on.
[13:55] <asrskz> How do I do that in Unity.
[13:55] <SrPx> ikonia: ?
[13:55] <undefined_infini> _r00t_, wow cool!
[13:55] <cbfarrand> lloyd: printer working fine with other computers
[13:56] <ikonia> SrPx: the makefile is there and has valid entries, but because something is failing to build (typlib plugin by the looks of it) it's complaining about the target defined in the makefile, or lack of it
[13:56] <windparadise> how do I add a new user to my system?
[13:56] <windparadise> using command line
[13:56] <bekks> windparadise: By using "adduser", for instance.
[13:56] <ikonia> SrPx: it probably wasn't created at configure due to a lack of typelib support
[13:56] <_r00t_> undefined_infini: Here she is http://goo.gl/AEAfR
[13:56] <lloyd> cbfarrand: localhost:631  and check what driver it is using.
[13:56] <cgrs> i have a wireless pcmcia card (Linksys Wireless-G Notebook Adapter WPC54G V3) which oneiric (11.10) doesn't recognize, even with windows drivers (ndiswrapper)! how can i connect internet with this s**t?? plz help
[13:57] <SrPx> ikonia: lack of typelib support? so can i fix this?
[13:57] <ikonia> cgrs: tone down the language
[13:57] <lloyd> cbfarrand: localhost:631  Administration -> Modify printer
[13:57] <ikonia> SrPx: check the configure options, however I suspect it's a bug with the automake process
[13:57] <cgrs> ok sorry
[13:57] <cablop> zram, sounds prettty interesting
[13:57] <lloyd> cbfarrand: Take Firefox to: localhost:631    Administration -> Modify printer
[13:57] <ikonia> cgrs: also you did a hit and run spam of your twitter account earlier - please do not do that again, clear ?
[13:58] <bindi> are there any graphical traceroute programs for ubuntu?
[13:58] <ikonia> bindi: why do you want something graphical
[13:58] <ikonia> bindi: all it does is display a list of IP's in the route
[13:58] <SrPx> ikonia: so theres nothing i can do? its weird for it to be a bug as its happening with all 3.0.x versions
[13:58] <bindi> ikonia: i mean uh
[13:58] <bindi> ikonia: geographical :p
[13:58] <ikonia> SrPx: not really seeing as 3.0 is development
[13:58] <josephseraos> I have a problem in Ubuntu 11.10, in Nautilus when I type to search a file or a directory it doesn't work correctly.
[13:58] <undefined_infini> _r00t_, cute setup lol..
[13:58] <lloyd> bindi: traceroute can run in a GUI terminal  :)
[13:58] <bindi> lloyd: yeah I meant geographical
[13:58] <_r00t_> undefined_infini: thanks
[13:59] <ikonia> SrPx: I find it hard to believe an application you want to use depeds on a development (version 3) build of gedit
[13:59]  * _r00t_ brb
[13:59] <cgrs> ok
[13:59] <cgrs> i have a wireless pcmcia card (Linksys Wireless-G Notebook Adapter WPC54G V3) which oneiric (11.10) doesn't recognize, even with windows drivers (ndiswrapper)! how can i connect internet with this?? plz help
[13:59] <cbfarrand> OK, driver is same as before
[14:00] <undefined_infini> _r00t_, wow nice! you're using low-powered processor.. I like it! :D
[14:00] <glebihan> ikonia, version 3 of gedit is not a development one (it's in the oneiric repos)
[14:00] <SrPx> ikonia: unfortunatelly it does. https://github.com/Quixotix/gedit-source-code-browser
[14:00] <lloyd> bindi:  What is it you really want to do?
[14:00] <ikonia> glebihan: it's listed 2.3 as "stable"
[14:00] <bindi> lloyd: see which countries connection goes through
[14:01] <rbb> dear friends my dvd wont play automaticaly on the default player when inserted,as it used to do ,please help ,im using xubuntu lucid LTS
[14:01] <rbb> hello my dvd wont play auto
[14:01] <rbb> anybody to help
[14:01] <cgrs> can someone help me please??? i have a wireless pcmcia card (Linksys Wireless-G Notebook Adapter WPC54G V3) which oneiric (11.10) doesn't recognize, even with windows drivers (ndiswrapper)! how can i connect internet with this?? plz help
[14:01] <lloyd> bindi: You will just need to look up the IP addresses to see who/where they are assigned.
[14:01] <bindi> lloyd: or use a program that likely exists, you're not really helping :f
[14:01] <SrPx> ikonia: im really sad with all this . i just spent 2 days trying to make something as trivial as finding a good text editor with a feature to navigate though the functions of my source code as i got huge files. so this is necessary. this is all i need. do you know if theres another editor or something that has this?
[14:01] <bindi> lloyd: i know i could manually geoip them, cba
[14:01] <iceroot> SrPx: you not use a real editor instead of fighting with gedit? learning vim/emacs is much easier then fighting with the compile-process of gedit3
[14:01] <ikonia> SrPx: why not ask the gnome developers ?
[14:02] <ikonia> SrPx: it's there development project that's not building/working for you
[14:02] <SrPx> iceroot: really? im using gedit because they said it was the best editor available in ubuntu
[14:02] <iceroot> SrPx: depending which person you ask
[14:02] <iceroot> SrPx: for development and profi-stuff of course vim/emacs are way better
[14:03] <cgrs> hey! please!!
[14:03] <iceroot> SrPx: if you need something like notepad use gedit, if you want a real editor use vim/emacs (and i suggest vim)
[14:03] <SrPx> iceroot: good to hear that. of the 2 what has a good feature to browsing large source codes? could be level folding function listing etc?
[14:03] <SrPx> hmm
[14:03] <iceroot> SrPx: vim can do everything (like emacs)
[14:04] <histo> seconds vim
[14:04] <tensorpudding> SrPx, you can consider geany, i think it has code-folding
[14:04] <deej1976> SrPx: vim, geany for GUI
[14:04] <iceroot> SrPx: e.g. a standard joke is, that emacs is an os with a buildin editor :)
[14:04] <forloop> did I walk into an IDE discussion? :D
[14:04] <iceroot> SrPx: ah sorry, "emacs is a os without a good editor" that was the joke :)
[14:05] <windparadise> hello, pls I made adduser username
[14:05] <windparadise> how do I add a password to it ?
[14:05] <tensorpudding> passwd username
[14:05] <forloop> passwd <username>
[14:05] <tensorpudding> as root
[14:05] <iceroot> windparadise: useradd username
[14:05] <tensorpudding> well
[14:05] <SrPx> iceroot: haha allright ll try vim
[14:05] <deej1976> sudo passwd userid
[14:06] <iceroot> SrPx: try vim, also have a look at the command "vimtutor"
[14:06] <windparadise> ok
[14:06] <josephseraos> Doesn't anybody have the same problem?
[14:06] <iceroot> SrPx: and remeber, vim is not installed by default on ubuntu so run "sudo apt-get install vim"
[14:06] <cgrs> i have a wireless pcmcia card (Linksys Wireless-G Notebook Adapter WPC54G V3) which oneiric (11.10) doesn't recognize, even with windows drivers (ndiswrapper)! how can i connect internet with this ?? plz help
[14:06] <lloyd> bindi:  apt-cache search traceroute
[14:07] <iceroot> cgrs: does "dmesg" show the card when you plug it into the system?
[14:07] <SrPx> iceroot: allright thank you very much (: lets see
[14:08] <iceroot> SrPx: trust me, with some learning vim/emacs are the most powerfull editors out there
[14:08] <cgrs> i don't know, but it shows "firmware it's not installed" or something like that in the top panel
[14:08] <iceroot> cgrs: because the firmware is not free and because of that not part of the standard ubuntu system
[14:09] <iceroot> cgrs: seems like you need to download the firmware
[14:09] <cgrs> where?
[14:09] <lloyd> cgrs: lspci  #Look to see if anything about it shows there.
[14:09] <SrPx> iceroot: is vim the same as Gvim
[14:09] <iceroot> SrPx: gvim is a gui for vim
[14:09] <iceroot> SrPx: vim is text based
[14:09] <binta1> hello
[14:09] <tensorpudding> SrPx, you want gvim probably
[14:10] <Kolt> Hi! I'm running ubuntu. I have dual monitors. One of the monitors have a wrong display. Its right side is blank and the left ofthe image is out of the display area. What can I do about it?
[14:10] <tensorpudding> it'll get both
[14:10] <BangBusRUs> hi i just installed ubuntu 11.10 lastnight, on my thinkpad t61, just need help with the touchpad and mouse buttons..
[14:10] <bindi> lloyd: nothing there.. there's xtraceroute but it's dropped since hardy
[14:10] <lake> Is there a program/heuristic for identifying the className of windows in X?
[14:10] <SrPx> iceroot: tensorpudding: what do you mean with a text editor being text based? it doesnt have a gui? what?
[14:10] <cgrs> ok i'll try it, cuz i'm not on ubuntu
[14:11] <iceroot> SrPx: vim doesnt have a gui, its for the shell
[14:11] <halomom> hey all. I have a problem with a dx8 application in wine
[14:11] <lake> How would one find the className of the window running "gnome-terminal"?
[14:11] <tensorpudding> SrPx, it has a gui, it doesn't run in the terminal
[14:11] <iceroot> SrPx: gvim is a gui for vim
[14:11] <cablop> ok
[14:11] <tensorpudding> SrPx, it'll have an icon that you can click, in the applications
[14:11] <cablop> then 50 GB would be ok for a root partition?
[14:11] <tensorpudding> SrPx, the interface is similar though
[14:11] <cablop> or in better words
[14:11] <cablop> more than enough
[14:11] <bekks> cablop: About 30GB wasted ;) 20GB will be more than enough.
[14:12] <iceroot> cgrs: more then enough
[14:12] <lloyd> cgrs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsLinksys#WPC54G
[14:12] <cgrs> thanx! i'll try!
[14:12] <iceroot> cgrs: wrong nick, sorry
[14:12] <lloyd> bindi: You could still probably find xtraceroute
[14:12] <cablop> ok i am reading that dm-crypt has multithreading
[14:12] <Loptr> I mounted a ntfs drive with ntfs-3g with options auto,users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  0
[14:12] <iceroot> cablop: yes, more then enough and maybe a waste like bekks said
[14:12] <Loptr> but it still doesnt allow me to change chmods on files and folders
[14:12] <cablop> for kernels above 2.6.30
[14:12] <iceroot> Loptr: ntfs doesnt support unix-acls
[14:13] <bindi> lloyd: trying to
[14:13] <cablop> so i can use LVM on top of that
[14:13] <bekks> Loptr: Because ntfs doesnt support it at all.
[14:13] <cablop> and then play with the root size
[14:13] <Loptr> bekks, i need to change permission on folder to 750 so i can add it as vhost on apache
[14:13] <Loptr> isn't there some way?
[14:13] <bekks> No.
[14:14] <lloyd> cgrs: From:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsLinksys#WPC54G "open the restricted drivers management and enable bcm43xx."
[14:14] <cablop> ok
[14:14] <SrPx> tensorpudding: iceroot no, but i mean... without gvim it has no gui? so what does it do at all? are there people developing using the shell? you do?
[14:14] <cablop> if i plan to have 8GB of RAM, then is a swap of 16 GB a bad idea?
[14:14] <tensorpudding> SrPx, some people do
[14:14] <cablop> consider that swap is used to store the RAM when hibernating
[14:14] <tensorpudding> SrPx, you don't have to
[14:14] <bekks> cablop: Yes. It is unneeded nowadays. Even for suspend you need just 8GB swap maximum.
[14:15] <lloyd> cablop: No, but 8 is prolly all you need
[14:15] <tensorpudding> SrPx, having both is useful, because you can use shell vim over an ssh session
[14:15] <cgrs> @lloyd thanx!
[14:15] <tensorpudding> SrPx, so you can use it to do remote admin
[14:15] <cablop> well disk is 1 TB so i prefer to waste a few GBs and not to fix it a lot
[14:16] <bekks> cablop: Even 30GB will be more than enough.
[14:16] <compdoc> 30GB?
[14:16] <iceroot> SrPx: of course i am developing using vim on the shell
[14:16] <cablop> ok, then 12GB swap and 30 GB root is a good idea
[14:16] <cablop> mmm
[14:16] <mario_> Hi, anyone can help me with an ATI card on Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:16] <lloyd> bekks: 30G is definately MORE than enough.
[14:16] <bekks> cablop: 8GB swap. 30GB /.
[14:16] <cablop> compdoc: i think he refers to the root partition
[14:16] <drake01> cablop, swap twice that of available RAM was an approximation used when RAMs more than 1 GB was rare.
[14:16] <iceroot> SrPx: no need for a gui or a mouse, much faster with real vim then any mouse-movers out there
[14:17] <bekks> lloyd: I know. But I dont knwow what he is going to install ;)
[14:17] <tensorpudding> SrPx, the power of vim is overstated, i recommend using geany
[14:17] <SrPx> oh my..
[14:17] <cablop> bekks: i 'll attempt to use some extra swap due to a virtual machine i use so i don't want to be unable to hibernate for a few mbs in use on swap
[14:17] <bekks> drake01: That time is gone for 15y now.
[14:17] <tensorpudding> SrPx, or probably better, try several things and pick the one that you like most
[14:17] <Can> how difficult is it to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu? and will it screw up grub?
[14:17] <SrPx> thats what im doing
[14:17] <jpds> !kde | Can
[14:17] <cablop> Can no grub affected
[14:17] <tensorpudding> SrPx, real development is easier with emacs than vim
[14:17] <bekks> cablop: That has nothing to do with vms at all. You cannot use more RAM than you have. So 8GB will be enough for swap.
[14:18] <cablop> Can: but you are going to adjust the GDM to KDM
[14:18] <Sandbro> ?
[14:18] <drake01> bekks, Exactly that's what my point...
[14:18] <SrPx> i serioulsy only need a way to browse large source codes without having to scroll them all, both folding or class listing does it
[14:18] <tensorpudding> SrPx, you asked about code folding, i doubt that vim supports it, and it surely wouldn't support it in the shell
[14:18] <SrPx> ill try both
[14:18] <SrPx> and iceroot are you serious? why that ? how do you do a ctrl+f for instance
[14:18] <cablop> bekks: yes, but if swap has, let's say 512 MB in use then there's not enough to save the RAM when hibernating
[14:18] <tensorpudding> SrPx, geany would be the most logical first though, since it's less of a stretch
[14:18] <Can> i should rephrase i think, i want to completely remove unbuntu and install kubuntu instead, ub just runs way to slow on my old lappy and ive read kub is alot more forgiving on older machines
[14:18] <iceroot> SrPx: what should ctrl +f do?
[14:18] <bekks> tensorpudding: Dont tell things that are entirely wrong please. http://smartic.us/2009/04/06/code-folding-in-vim/
[14:19] <iceroot> SrPx: searching? do /string
[14:19] <nDuff> tensorpudding, vim certainly does support code folding7
[14:19] <nDuff> ...oh, bekks already got there
[14:19] <cablop> can wrong, the one for old machines is xubuntu
[14:19] <tensorpudding> that's gvim
[14:19] <Can> cablop: yes thank you thats what i meant
[14:19] <bekks> tensorpudding: No.
[14:19] <SrPx> iceroot: o.o
[14:19] <nDuff> tensorpudding, it's not limited to gvim
[14:19] <iceroot> tensorpudding: of course vim is supporting it
[14:19] <iceroot> SrPx: /foobar
[14:20] <iceroot> SrPx: so search for foobar
[14:20] <kylealbrecht> .
[14:20] <nDuff> tensorpudding, it _is_ limited to vim as opposed to vi emulation mode, but so are most of the useful features.
[14:20] <iceroot> SrPx: much easier then ctrl + f
[14:20] <tensorpudding> SrPx, just go geany, it's simpler and iirc is available by default
[14:20] <Can> cablop: any ideas on how to go about doing that without screwing up my laptop?
[14:20] <SrPx> im liking the idea actually
[14:20] <cablop> can, then same thing, install it, then switch to xdm and done, but it is gtk too, so speed is the same, what you are going to get as an improvement is less ram usage
[14:20] <bekks> tensorpudding: http://vibol.hou.cc/code-folding-in-vim-60
[14:20] <kylealbrecht> i recently installed ubuntu on my laptop, got an intel graphics card and i got no graphics acceleration.
[14:21] <kylealbrecht> if i remember correctly i got it in an earlier version of ubuntu
[14:21] <SrPx> but iceroot you dont really care about syntax lightning?
[14:21] <iceroot> SrPx: look at youtube for "vim videos" to see the power of that editor
[14:21] <SrPx> hmm
[14:21] <SrPx> i will
[14:21] <iceroot> SrPx: of course vim has syntax-highlighting
[14:21] <iceroot> SrPx: as i said, vim is the most powerfull editor out there
[14:21] <SrPx> hmm
[14:22] <iceroot> SrPx: it has<PHONE_NUMBER>0000 more features then gedit
[14:22] <Jimmio> Could someone explain to me why sticking the output of "yes" into the input of ls causes.. I don't even know what to call it? I figure it's a race condition that uses up all memory.. but I'm not sure, and I won't type the command here as someone will surely run it >.>
[14:22] <tensorpudding> SrPx, take what they say with a big grain of salt
[14:22] <mario_> Hi, anyone can help me with an ATI card on Ubuntu 11.10?
[14:22] <iceroot> SrPx: syntax highlight is not worth to mention as a vim feature
[14:22] <SrPx> tensorpudding: pardon?
[14:22] <halomom> hey all. I have a problem with a dx8 application in wine
[14:22] <share> !ask | mario_
[14:22] <tensorpudding> SrPx, regarding vim being "the most powerful"
[14:22] <iceroot> tensorpudding: vim and emacs
[14:22] <nDuff> tensorpudding, gives as you clearly don't know vim, you're not really in a strong position on the subject.
[14:22] <tensorpudding> SrPx, editor advocacy is a contentious are
[14:22] <cablop> Can: i don't put my hands on fire, but what i'd do is to install the whole xubuntu then switch gdm to xdm and then run it for a while, but to remove the gnome will be a hard task, xfce and gnome share some components
[14:22] <BluesKaj> mario_, more details pls
[14:22] <mario_> thank you ubottu!
[14:23] <share> anyone | mario_
[14:23] <kylealbrecht> does anybody know how to fix no acceleration with an intel graphics card on ubuntu 11.10?
[14:23] <share> !anyone | mario_
[14:23] <share> :)
[14:23] <iceroot> tensorpudding: but maybe you know an editor which is more powerfull then vim/emacs? i would be really interested in something like that
[14:23] <tensorpudding> nDuff, i used vim for quite a while, and i know how disingenuous recommending vim to people just looking for an IDE is
[14:23] <nDuff> tensorpudding, the major thing I see vim missing is refactoring functionality and strong subprocess-buffer support, both things which emacs does better; aside from those, it's up with the best of them
[14:24] <Loptr> Is there a way to change ntfs to ext3 without formating it?
[14:24] <SrPx> iceroot: ok then waht are some of the features that makes it so powerfull? and again, about source code browsing, large file, thousands of functions and classes, having to browse though them very far from each other, and needing to have a good visualization of them, how can vim help me with that?
[14:24] <tensorpudding> they got caught up in having to memorize backwards keybindings
[14:24] <iceroot> SrPx: what about trying vim? it can all you mentioned
[14:24] <mario_> ati drivers installed but system reports VESA. How to know which driver is in use?
[14:25] <nDuff> tensorpudding, SrPx isn't asking for an IDE, but for a "more powerful" editor.
[14:25] <nDuff> tensorpudding, ...and that's exactly what vim is.
[14:25] <tensorpudding> nDuff, depends what you mean by powerful
[14:25] <kylealbrecht> does anybody know how to fix no acceleration with an intel graphics card on ubuntu 11.10?
[14:25] <SrPx> iceroot: but id like to hear from someone who likes it what are the key features that makes it so powerful so i can time them
[14:25] <iceroot> SrPx: also you can use vim-script, load plugins, interacte directly with the shell and its programs, svn and gut integration, syntax highlight, auto complete, syntax check, compile directly, use as a file browser, write markos, call it from the shell with commands, regex and so on and so on
[14:25] <nDuff> tensorpudding, ...I think that's pretty well-defined -- amount of utility readily available through the tool to a user who has already learned it exhaustively.
[14:26] <iceroot> SrPx: #vim, youtube and type in there "vim", vim.org
[14:26] <SrPx> hm ok ok
[14:26] <nDuff> tensorpudding, ...certainly not the same thing as having a tool with an easy learning curve, but such is the nature of going for tools optimized to be useful to experts rather than easy to learn
[14:26] <iceroot> SrPx: just trust me, you can do so powerfull (and sometimes crazy) things with vim/emacs