[22:28] <nickjohnson> Okay, stupid question: I ran nvidia-xconfig, and now it's using the nvidia drivers... which are acting terribly. How do I set it back to non-nvidia until I can get things working
[22:28] <Alvaa> xlq: yes
[22:28] <nickjohnson> ?
[22:28] <xlq> Some_Person: that looks correct
[22:28] <Alvaa> xlq: ~/Desktop/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so?
[22:28] <firecrotch> Some_Person: is it the same except for the IP address on the desktop?
[22:28] <xlq> Alvaa: yes
[22:29] <xlq> Alvaa: open a terminal, and type this: mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins && cp ~/Desktop/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/ && echo OK
[22:29] <xlq> Alvaa: and then press enter
[22:30] <Some_Person> firecrotch: The desktop has no IP
[22:30] <mrwes> xlq, you're the best :) run'em all together heh
[22:30] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, run: ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0
[22:31] <Alvaa> xlq: done
[22:31] <Some_Person> xlq: now it has an ip
[22:31] <xlq> Alvaa: did it say "OK"?
[22:31] <xlq> Some_Person: try pinging again
[22:31] <Alvaa> xlq: yes
[22:31] <xlq> Alvaa: is firefox running?
[22:31] <Some_Person> xlq: Ping works
[22:31] <xlq> Some_Person: what about the scp command?
[22:31] <Alvaa> xlq: not at the moment
[22:31] <xlq> Alvaa: ok. Start firefox
[22:31] <GreyWanderer> uuurk. 1383 nicks...
[22:32] <Alvaa> xlq: from desk?
[22:32] <mrwes> typical
[22:32] <xlq> Alvaa: yeah
[22:32] <Alvaa> xlq: runs
[22:32] <Some_Person> xlq: It doesn't look like it's doing anything
[22:33] <dAnon> for some reason I can't install any flashplayerr
[22:33] <dAnon> can someone upload the most recent flashplugin-nonfree.so for me?
[22:33] <xlq> Alvaa: type "about: plugins" into the address bar
[22:33] <dAnon> I can't install it in the system at all :P
[22:33] <Laice> anyone know the best free tahoma font that works well with ubuntu under wine in jaunty?
[22:33] <Alvaa> xlq: it's not shown .. :/
[22:34] <freshmeat> I'm having issues getting Quake 3 Arena demo up and running.  The script seems to be attempting to load files that aren't there.
[22:34] <xlq> Alvaa: have you still got that terminal?
[22:34] <Laice> the ones i've tried from the net seem to brake up in the alerts from the system tray, otherwise it works well inside steam itself
[22:34] <Alvaa> xlq: yes
[22:34] <xlq> Alvaa: type this into it: file ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[22:35] <xlq> Some_Person: can you traceroute?
[22:35] <Some_Person> xlq: command?
[22:35] <pitzi> hi lads
[22:35] <xlq> Some_Person: oh, the desktop hasn't got traceroute :\
[22:35] <pitzi> can anyone give me a hand
[22:35] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop, can you "traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[22:35] <pitzi> i cant seem to get the 1280x1024 resolution
[22:35] <Whitor> !ask pitzi
[22:36] <Alvaa> xlq: done, it says "/home/janek/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped"
[22:36] <pitzi> here's my xorg.conf file
[22:36] <pitzi> Section "Device"
[22:36] <pitzi> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[22:36] <pitzi> EndSection
[22:36] <pitzi> Section "Monitor"
[22:36] <pitzi> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[22:36] <FloodBot1> pitzi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <xlq> lol at pitzi
[22:36] <Whitor> lol
[22:36] <xlq> Alvaa: well that looks OK :\
[22:36] <mrwes> heh
[22:36] <xlq> FloodBot1: you're a very good bot
[22:36] <pharsalus> That's why he's number 1
[22:36] <pitzi> yeh but cant get 1280x1024
[22:37] <mrwes> xlq, she doesn't have the free flash player installed does she?
[22:37] <mrwes> or he
[22:37] <mrwes> heh
[22:37] <Some_Person> xlq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252778/
[22:38] <xlq> mrwes: what free flash player?
[22:38] <xlq> Some_Person: ahh crap
[22:38] <xlq> it's going the wrong way
[22:38] <Darael> xlq: gnash or swfdec?
[22:38] <xlq> Darael: do those actually work?
[22:39] <Lasivian> are there any cellphones out there that will tether out of the box with Ubuntu?
[22:39] <Some_Person> xlq: can you tell it to go the right way?
[22:39] <pitzi> so can anyone help?
[22:39] <Darael> xlq: variably, but they aren't bad.
[22:39] <mrwes> xlq: I was thinking of gnash
[22:39] <xlq> mrwes: I thought that was still really really alpha
[22:39] <Alvaa> xlq: google says i need " nspluginwrapper" to install the 64 bit flash player
[22:39] <Some_Person> xlq: i can't ping it any more
[22:40] <xlq> Some_Person: which way are you trying to ping?
[22:40] <pitzi> ok found out how to paste. so heres my xorg.conf can anyone tell me how to get 1280x1024?
[22:40] <xlq> Some_Person: strange thing is, the laptop should be routing through eth0, since that's the longest-prefix route
[22:40] <pitzi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/252779/
[22:40] <Some_Person> The odd part is that I don't have a <IP_ADDRESS> on my network
[22:41] <xlq> Some_Person: yes, that is odd :|
[22:42] <Some_Person> nevermind all this
[22:42] <Some_Person> i managed to get my flash drive to work
[22:42] <xlq> lol
[22:42] <xlq> Some_Person: I'm really sorry I've used up so much of your time, though
[22:42] <pitzi> well what can i say
[22:42] <pitzi> thansk for nothing
[22:42] <Some_Person> its ok
[22:42] <xlq> pitzi: have you tried the GNOME display settings?
[22:43] <pitzi> yeh
[22:43] <pitzi> but that rez isnt listed
[22:43] <xlq> pitzi: What device have you got? What driver are you using? etc. etc.
[22:43] <gwildor> what card do you have?
[22:43] <pitzi> ati x1900xt
[22:43] <xlq> Some_Person: as you may know, networking can ... get a bit complicated :\
[22:43] <pitzi> hyunday l90d+
[22:43] <Some_Person> now how do i format a hard drive?
[22:43] <pitzi> but going through a belkin switch2 kvm
[22:43] <xlq> Some_Person: what do you want to format it for?
[22:44] <xlq> Some_Person: I thought you were going to reinstall Windows
[22:44] <Some_Person> wait i found the problem
[22:44] <Some_Person> the ethernet cable fell out
[22:44] <xlq> ?!
[22:44] <xlq> O_o
[22:44] <Darael> !?
[22:44] <Some_Person> i am going to reinstall windows
[22:44] <Some_Person> but i need to format first
[22:45] <xlq> Some_Person: the Windows installer formats, doesn't it?
[22:45] <gwildor> it does
[22:45] <Some_Person> it's having trouble reading the drive
[22:45] <Some_Person> so i'm going to format it
[22:45] <xlq> Some_Person: consider it might be a hardware fault
[22:45] <xlq> Some_Person: what sort of trouble?
[22:45] <pitzi> lads? dont leave me...
[22:45] <pitzi> :)
[22:45] <tsrk> i installed a graphics driver that messed up my machine, how can I remove it from the command line?
[22:45] <Some_Person> it doesn't give an error; it just hangs
[22:45] <Some_Person> the drive is readable in ubuntu
[22:46] <Some_Person> i'm going to try formatting and then reinstalling
[22:46] <gwildor> *where* does it hang?
[22:46] <gwildor> err, when
[22:46] <VCoolio> pitzi: isn't there some ati settings app in system > administration where you can set the res?
[22:46] <mrwes> the cable fell out????????????? damn!
[22:46] <xlq> pitzi: what architecture? x86 or x86_64?
[22:46] <kekeke> VCoolio is there any way i can prevent a user from entering just 1 directory?
[22:46] <pitzi> no restricted drivers in 9.04
[22:46] <maco> Some_Person: windows install disk can format the drive....
[22:46] <Darael> tsrk: have you tried booting in recovery mode and using the xfix thingy?
[22:46] <pitzi> x86
[22:46] <Some_Person> maco: IT ISN"T WORKING
[22:46] <coordinador> hi
[22:47] <maco> Some_Person: oh
[22:47] <Darael> some_ignore tht!
[22:47] <tsrk> Darael, what's xfix do? I just need to know what the package is called
[22:47] <xlq> pitzi: install fglrx
[22:47] <pitzi> how do u do that
[22:47] <VCoolio> kekeke: is there a reason to ask me? try sudo chmod 700 on the directory if root owns it
[22:47] <maco> pitzi: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-fglrx
[22:47] <GreyWanderer> oh, and don't forget to add the right repo
[22:47] <Darael> tsrk: it would sort out graphical problems (in theory).
[22:47] <GreyWanderer> (if it's not already added)
[22:47] <pitzi> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-fglrx
[22:48] <pitzi> E: Couldn't find package xserver-xorg-video-fglrx
[22:48] <kekeke> VCoolio sorry for some reason i thought i was talking to you earlier
[22:48] <kekeke> lol
[22:48] <kekeke> ty anyways
[22:48] <tsrk> Darael, alright, i'll try it, thanks
[22:48] <GreyWanderer> I personally found that driver kept screwing with my computer, so I removed it. Back to the working opensource driver... sigh
[22:48] <VCoolio> kekeke: use chmod -R to make recursive
[22:48] <kekeke> kk thanks
[22:48] <Some_Person> so does anyone know how to format a hard drive in ubuntu?
[22:48] <xlq> kekeke: read about UNIX file and directory permissions and how they work
[22:48] <xlq> Some_Person: mkfs
[22:48] <mrwes> Some_Person, use gparted
[22:48] <Some_Person> it doesn't have gparted installed
[22:48] <xlq> mrwes has a better idea, yes
[22:49] <GreyWanderer> Some_Person: do you really mean "format" (remake the sectors), or do you mean make a filesystem on a drive?
[22:49] <mrwes> Some_Person, so install it
[22:49] <Some_Person> and it has no internet connection
[22:49] <GreyWanderer> uh.
[22:49] <Some_Person> GreyWanderer: format
[22:49] <icarus> i am haveing some trobule makeing portal work with wine
[22:49] <GreyWanderer> Some_Person: in what sense? the old-school sense of rewriting all of the sector bounding data?
[22:49] <xlq> icarus: the wine channels might be a better place
[22:50] <GreyWanderer> I know of at least two senses that "format" is used in.
[22:50] <Viking_> hello
[22:50] <xlq> I think I'm going, before I get some sort of psychological disorder.
[22:50] <Some_Person> I just want to blow all the data to nothing and start completely clean, to the point where windows installer has the best chance of reading it
[22:50] <xlq> Some_Person: well you could dd all over it
[22:50] <GreyWanderer> *nod*
[22:51] <Viking_> i just lost 1.5 terabyte using dd
[22:51] <GreyWanderer> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/your-drive bs=1M
[22:51] <mrwes> Some_Person, sudo apt-get install gparted and then use it to format the drive, just make sure it's not mounted, otherwise it'll be locked
[22:51] <Some_Person> mrwes: IT HAS NO INTERNET
[22:51] <GreyWanderer> Viking_: ouch. messy.
[22:51] <Darael> Viking_: ouch.
[22:51] <Viking_> sudo dd if=/dev/sdc [1,2]  of=/dev/sda1
[22:51] <Viking_> this is what i did
[22:51] <mrwes> heh
[22:51] <xlq> I think removing gparted from the Ubuntu livecd was a really stupid idea :(
[22:51] <urthmover> I'll just say one thing to spice things up
[22:51] <Viking_> and i need to get all my data back on the sa1
[22:51] <GreyWanderer> Viking_: like, huh? That's not even a legal dd.
[22:51] <xlq> Viking_: what's this [1,2] syntax?
[22:51] <mrwes> Some_Person, what files system do you want to format it to?
[22:51] <gwildor> or just use cfdisk to wipe it
[22:51] <urthmover> Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants
[22:51] <Darael> xlq: what?  it's on my live cd.
[22:52]  * urthmover drops the knowlege
[22:52] <Viking_> sorry
[22:52] <xlq> Darael: what version
[22:52] <Some_Person> mrwes: ntfs
[22:52] <Darael> xlq: jaunty.
[22:52] <xlq> Darael: really?
[22:52] <Darael> yup.
[22:52] <xlq> Oh right.
[22:52] <Some_Person> mrwes: I want to wipe the whole drive, not just its only partition
[22:52] <coordinador> i have a problem with openoffice
[22:52] <Viking_> sudo dd if=/dev/sdc1 of=/dev/sda1
[22:52] <xlq> Then this Kubuntu CD must have some KDE equivalent which I didn't know the name of.
[22:52] <GreyWanderer> mm?
[22:52] <mrwes> Some_Person, what /dev/ is it?
[22:53] <GreyWanderer> it's not ALL kde tools, you know
[22:53] <Viking_> can anyone tell me way to restore files on sda1
[22:53] <kaddi> xlq i think it's called partitionmanager in kubuntu
[22:53] <Some_Person> mrwes: /dev/sda
[22:53] <xlq> Some_Person: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/thedrive bs=1M
[22:53] <GreyWanderer> Viking_: I don't know if you can, to be frank.
[22:53] <xlq> Some_Person: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M
[22:53] <mrwes> sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/sda
[22:53] <Darael> Viking_: You could try testdisk, but it's not very hopeful.
[22:53] <GreyWanderer> Some_Person: what drive is it? The first drive in the system?
[22:53] <xlq> Some_Person: be careful though, playing around with dd as root :)
[22:53] <xlq> mrwes: you probably don't want to do that
[22:53] <Some_Person> i'm just wiping a hard drive
[22:54] <Viking_> i lost all my picturers everything music important docs
[22:54] <GreyWanderer> yeah, WHICH hard drive? i.e. what does Ubuntu think it's called? sda? sdb? sdc?
[22:54] <xlq> GreyWanderer: he said sda
[22:54] <D3RGPS31> is there a way to use grep to change case-sensitive file names/extensions in a web document
[22:54] <GreyWanderer> he did?
[22:54] <coordinador> when i print, i cannot set the top margin as in the document (the printed document has very little top margin, the original document in openoffice has different margin)
[22:54] <xlq> Viking_: well at least you learnt: 1. to keep backups, and 2. to be careful with powertools!
[22:54] <derenrich> D3RGPS31: more specific?
[22:55] <Viking_> well that was my backup drive
[22:55] <D3RGPS31> derenrich: i don't think i can be more simple than that
[22:55] <Darael> Viking_: well, as I say, testdisk _might_ help, but the thing is that you overwrote at leastsome of it.
[22:55] <xlq> D3RGPS31: grep doesn't change, it only searches. Use sed.  When I selected Ubuntu (instead of XP) at the grub selection, it'd just begin to load and then redirect me to the menu. I then installed the ext2 fs-driver on XP but couldn't even see the partition for Ubuntu. When I go to install Ubuntu now (inside XP) it says it's still installed. How do I recover that partition?
[22:55] <derenrich> D3RGPS31: exactly what names do you want to change?
[22:55] <Viking_> thanks darael
[22:55] <derenrich> D3RGPS31: also the answer is no grep won't do that
[22:55] <Viking_> i just dont wanna loose more so
[22:55] <tsrk> does anyone know how i can find the package name of the proprietary driver i just installed?
[22:55] <D3RGPS31> derenrich: i know, i read
[22:55] <xlq> I'm off now
[22:55] <bruce927> Does anyone else experience sound corruption from within pidgin?
[22:55] <Viking_> i wanna do this right
[22:56] <derenrich> D3RGPS31: ...?
[22:56] <jedc> unop, couldnt he do that just using permissions?
[22:56] <Viking_> wish i nevr messed with that dd
[22:56] <icarus> the best way to delete everything on a hard drive is by sticing it in the oven at 320<X this will get you to something nknown as the curre point which all magents lose their magnetism
[22:56] <bruce927> If it helps, I'm using an ALC268
[22:57] <Darael> Viking_: if you've got the originals, you could make a new filesystem on the backup drive and just recreate the backup.  Possibly slower, but certain to work.
[22:57] <Skrypt> I'm trying to install GRUB2 via LiveCD to recover a partition which I somehow hid entirely... How can I get fdisk to show the Ubuntu partition?  I know it's still there because gparted shows the memory is still in use and when I attempt to install Ubuntu in XP, it says I have to uninstall first?
[22:57] <mrwes> xlq, I guess this then dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[22:58] <Viking_> yes i am giving testdisk a go
[22:58] <Viking_> hope to recover all years of files
[22:58] <mizerydearia> Does Ubuntu store a log/history of applications installed?  I want to determine how early mdadm was installed so as to determine if it is a necessary package or if it is okay to remove it.
[22:59] <Viking_> thanks alot darael
[22:59] <mrwes> mizerydearia, in the synaptic manager, yes
[22:59] <firecrotch> icarus, that wouldn't work. if they can recover all the data off the hard drives from the last space shuttle that blew up, I doubt putting it in your over would work
[22:59] <Viking_> Darael thank you
[22:59] <D3RGPS31> derenrich: eg, i have afew web documents that points to file_a.HTML and file_B.html, etc..., the files are named FILE_A.HTML and FILE_B.HTML, etc...
[22:59] <Darael> Viking_: Don't thank me until you get your stuff back.
[23:00] <Viking_> well just try to be polite here
[23:00] <Some_Person> How long will that dd command take?
[23:00] <Viking_> i was fixing daughter notebook
[23:00] <Darael> Viking_: I know.  But I don't deserve thanks unless you get it back... ne?
[23:00] <Berzerker> Wow jolicloud is awesome.
[23:00] <dare> firecrotch: i'm sure those were a lot more durable
[23:00] <derenrich> Some_Person: you can get progress info, see the man page for details how
[23:00] <mizerydearia> mrwes, Where in the synaptic manager?
[23:00] <Berzerker> anyone who has a netbook should check it out
[23:00] <kiaas_> On vbox(the closed source version) with USB support..how do I make it attach a USB dvd burner? I don't want ubuntu using it, just Vbox.
[23:00] <Viking_> ill buy u beer if i get it
[23:01] <dare> firecrotch: probably incased in many inches of titanium >:)
[23:01] <mrwes> mizerydearia, file | history
[23:01] <Viking_> i am right now not to happy
[23:01] <Viking_> when i realized i messed up
[23:01] <mrwes> mizerydearia, or click the status button, then installed
[23:01] <Viking_> well we live we learn
[23:01] <Some_Person> derenrich: while its running?
[23:02] <Berzerker> kiaas_, should be a setting to bypass USB devices somewhere in the settings menu
[23:02] <derenrich> Some_Person: yeah
[23:02] <derenrich> Some_Person: you can get the info on any running dd process
[23:02] <Berzerker> kiaas_, never used Vbox, but all VM programs I've used have a setting like that
[23:02] <GreyWanderer> yeah, SIGCONT, isn't it?
[23:02] <GreyWanderer> (for dd's progress)
[23:02] <firecrotch> dare: standard hard drives :)
[23:03] <unperson> What's the proper way to change the hostname on my Jaunty system?  Will the hostname command change everything that needs to be changed?  I gather there used to be a way to do it via the GUI, but I think it's gone.
[23:03] <kiaas_> Berzerker, I have the setting set, it gets ignored by ubuntu preventing vbox from taking control of it as far as I can tell
[23:03] <firecrotch> dare: parts of them were melted
[23:03]  * derenrich doesn't remember and checks the man page everytime
[23:03] <dare> firecrotch: ic
[23:03] <Berzerker> kiaas_, no idea then
[23:03] <prince_jammys> !hostname > unperson
[23:03] <kiaas_> Berzerker, I guess I can transfer it to my file server, then burn it from my iMac.
[23:04] <Some_Person> derenrich: how?
[23:04] <poisonkiller> does anybody know, how to make VPN autoconnect on resuming from suspend?
[23:04] <derenrich> Some_Person: kill -USR1 $pid where $pid is the pid of the dd process
[23:05] <derenrich> Some_Person: which you can get from ps
[23:05] <Some_Person> kill? won't that kill it?
[23:05] <derenrich> Some_Person: I swear it's in the man page
[23:05] <GreyWanderer> no, not quite.
[23:05] <derenrich> Some_Person: no kill is used to send signals
[23:05] <derenrich> Some_Person: if it sends SIG_KILL then it'll kill
[23:05] <GreyWanderer> Anyhow, I'm out of here. Bye all.
[23:05] <Some_Person> wow, what smart person thought of that name
[23:06] <derenrich> Some_Person: well it defaults to SIG_KILL
[23:06] <prince_jammys> no, it doesn't
[23:06] <dca> My Hibernate is not working.. On hibernation it is locking the system and showing the loginn screen..
[23:06] <prince_jammys> thankfully
[23:06] <derenrich> prince_jammys: what does it default do?
[23:06] <prince_jammys> TERM
[23:06]  * derenrich always uses killall -9
[23:06] <derenrich> oic
[23:06] <jedc> lol
[23:06] <prince_jammys> -9 is extreme
[23:06] <unperson> prince_jammys, At least half of ubottu's info is out of date.  On jaunty there is no System -> Administration -> Networking
[23:06] <Some_Person> how do i get the process id from ps?
[23:07] <derenrich> Some_Person: you might need ps -e depending where you are doing this from
[23:07] <savid> In network:/// is it possible to connect to a server using a password?  We have a windows share that requires a specific password (but no username)
[23:07] <derenrich> Some_Person: it's the number next to the word dd
[23:07] <prince_jammys> TERM QUIT HUP, all these can also kill a process.
[23:07] <Some_Person> got it
[23:07] <derenrich> kk
[23:07] <Some_Person> the -e was what i needed
[23:07] <dca>   My Hibernate is not working.. On hibernation it is locking the system and showing the loginn screen..Please help
[23:07] <jedc> unperson, there is a network tools
[23:07] <kansan> i accidentally shut down mysql down with a kill -9.  as a reward i now cant start mysql and i see:  /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' fai error: 'Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'
[23:07] <prince_jammys> unperson: sorry.
[23:08] <prince_jammys> unperson: i don't have jaunty either to verify. but the files mentioned should be there, as well as the hostname command.
[23:08] <unperson> jedc, Yeah, but that's not what you want.  The thing they're referring to is gone.
[23:08] <Some_Person> it didn't do anything
[23:08] <Some_Person> i ran "sudo kill -USR1 6178" and nothing happened
[23:08] <unperson> prince_jammys, Yeah, I guess there's a bit of a trick to not locking yourself out of sudo, and it's not 100% clear to me how to accomplish that.
[23:08] <derenrich> Some_Person: it printed output on the window u ran dd in
[23:08] <Some_Person> no it didn't
[23:08] <derenrich> Some_Person: should have
[23:09] <Some_Person> hang on theres another dd in the ps output
[23:09] <Some_Person> ok that worked
[23:09] <derenrich> Some_Person: ok
[23:09] <derenrich> Some_Person: it tells u how much it has outputed so far? i can't remember
[23:09] <Some_Person> yes
[23:09] <Some_Person> 34GB at this point
[23:10] <Some_Person> and it gives the speed
[23:10] <derenrich> Some_Person: fast. /dev/random is way slower (which is what i wipe drives with)
[23:10] <Some_Person> It says it's going at 37.4 MB/s
[23:11] <Some_Person> Is there any advantage to /dev/random?
[23:11] <derenrich> not really
[23:11] <derenrich> afaik nobody has recovered data that has been wiped with /dev/zero
[23:11] <dca>  My Hibernate is not working.. On hibernation it is locking the system and showing the loginn screen..
[23:11] <Some_Person> i already saved this person's data
[23:12] <derenrich> Some_Person: nobody will recover it from the drive
[23:12] <Some_Person> theres no need to
[23:12] <Darael> Some_Person: if you had had sensitive stuff on there, several passes of /dev/random would make it basically impossible to recover, but you don't need it really.
[23:12] <derenrich> Some_Person: right but i assume you're wiping it because there's sensitive material on the drive
[23:12] <Some_Person> no
[23:12] <derenrich> Some_Person: why are you wiping it?
[23:13] <Some_Person> i'm wiping it because i suspect its corrupted
[23:13] <derenrich> o
[23:13] <Some_Person> no space left on device
[23:13] <Some_Person> that means its done right?
[23:13] <derenrich> yeah
[23:13] <SealedWithAKiss> I'm having trouble running something from the terminal. I have downloaded a tar.gz file and extracted it to my desktop. There is a single extracted file which has no extension, although it has been assigned a WINE icon. I can't run it from the terminal, or even open it with a text editor, yet I know this script works because I have seen other people using it. Any suggestions?
[23:14] <Darael> derenrich: using /dev/random will eat away at your entropy pool, so it might be better to use /dev/urandom. Though is that a little less secure?
[23:14] <SealedWithAKiss> I believe it's some kind of binary file.
[23:14] <Darael> SealedWithAKiss: you may have to give it executable permissions first.
[23:15] <derenrich> Darael: true. I did use urandom. /dev/random is way slower since it will block when you run out of entropy (I think)
[23:15] <Some_Person> i assume that wiping it this way will remove any corruption
[23:15] <Artisteanonyme> !list
[23:15] <Berzerker> why doesn't firefox 3.0 update to 3.5?
[23:15] <mrwes> list?
[23:15] <mrwes> heh
[23:15] <derenrich> Some_Person: not sure about that
[23:15] <VCoolio> Berzerker: it's a different package
[23:15] <mrwes> o/ Dr_Willis
[23:15] <derenrich> Berzerker: because ubuntu is silly
[23:15] <SealedWithAKiss> Darael, I can r-w-x the file. I checked permissions.
[23:15] <Some_Person> i even put a new ribbon cable on it for good measure
[23:15] <maco> Berzerker: because it a major version release
[23:15] <Darael> SealedWithAKiss: hmm.  no idea then.
[23:15] <Berzerker> so....wouldn't people want it to update it
[23:15] <maco> Berzerker: only security updates are automatic. 3.5 is packaged for jaunty though
[23:16] <derenrich> Berzerker: the ff3.5 package exists you just need to update manually
[23:16] <maco> Berzerker: new versions can introduce new security issues and bugs, so they are not automatic
[23:16] <Some_Person> yay! windows installer now working
[23:16] <Berzerker> how do I update it?
[23:16] <maco> Berzerker: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[23:16] <Berzerker> besides uninsatlling firefox 3 and installing 3.5
[23:16] <derenrich> i'm not sure if you should uninstall first, i'm unclear on that point
[23:16] <maco> Berzerker: itll be in your menu as "Shiretoko" so you dont have Firefox listed twice then stare at them like "er...which one...?"
[23:16]  * derenrich runs minefield atm
[23:16] <kaddi> you don't need to uninstall it first. I have both running side by side
[23:17] <derenrich> kaddi: using the same profile?
[23:17] <SealedWithAKiss> I'm having trouble running something from the terminal. I have downloaded a tar.gz file and extracted it to my desktop. There is a single extracted file which has no extension, although it has been assigned a WINE icon. I can't run it from the terminal, or even open it with a text editor, yet I know this script works because I have seen other people using it. Any suggestions?
[23:17] <kaddi> derenrich well originally yes, cause my old profile got copied over, however since then they went their own ways
[23:18] <derenrich> SealedWithAKiss: have you tried running it in wine?
[23:18] <gwildor> SealedWithAKiss, sh thescript
[23:18] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, you tried ./scriptname from the terminal?
[23:19] <stonith> Hey I have an off topic question.  I have a car that hasn't been running for 8+ months.  Obviously the car battery is dead.  Is it possible to jump from another car? Or do I need to charge the battery?
[23:19] <kaddi> derenrich the only "problem" I noticed so far is that the updates will point /usr/bin/firefox to the version they updated, so if you updated 3.0 last firefox will start FF 3.0 and if you updated 3.5 lat, firefox will start FF 3.5 which can be kind of annoying
[23:19] <SealedWithAKiss> mrwes, genius. Absolute genius. Why didn't I think of that?
[23:19] <kiaas_> o.o!  It worked!
[23:20] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, good.
[23:20] <SealedWithAKiss> mrwes, serious*
[23:20] <derenrich> kaddi: I think they really dropped the ball with ff, support is lacking here
[23:20] <Berzerker> maco, ok so how do I make it say "Firefox Web Browser" with the icon instead of shiretoko?
[23:20] <SealedWithAKiss> mrwes, thanks! Although now I can see how it may have sounded as though I was being funny.
[23:20] <Berzerker> maco, and uninstall firefox 3.0
[23:20] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, :)
[23:21] <mido> hi i need a program to force certain users on my computer to use only certain programs is there something like that?
[23:21] <soulwarp> mido: a pointy stick
[23:21] <maco> Berzerker: umm you can modify the .desktop file and play with user agent switcher...i guess
[23:21] <SealedWithAKiss> mrwes, why did I need the ./ in front of the name of the executable? Or that just how Linux does things?
[23:21] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, linux thingy
[23:21] <Berzerker> maco, desktop file?
[23:21] <kaddi> derenrich what makes you say that? I'm actually pretty happy with FF right now. 3.5 improved a lot of things and ubuntu-mozilla resolved  my problems with FF keeping running after closing. (which in the end wasn't a FF bug at all :p )
[23:22] <derenrich> kaddi: by they I mean canoncial not mozilla
[23:22] <mido> soulwarp can you explain more please
[23:22] <Darael> SealedWithAKiss: you have to supply a path rather than just a filename.  Can't remember why right now.
[23:22] <prince_jammys> SealedWithAKiss: since the command is not in your PATH where commands are normally searched for, the ./ means "in the current directory".
[23:22] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, basic terminal command stuff
[23:22] <heo> Anyone using IRSSI? How can close the DCC SERVER?
[23:22] <icarus> It should play straight away after Installation but if you get a white screen only on start up check out these simple steps for the fix
[23:22] <icarus> 1.Make a shortcut on your desktop of the hl2.exe file in portal directory
[23:22] <icarus> 2.Right click on the new shortcut and select properties and change the target to
[23:22] <icarus> "C:\Program Files\Portal\hl2.exe" -game portal -window -dxlevel 81 +mat_forcehardwaresync 0 But how do i do the Target bit in ubuntu ?
[23:23] <FloodBot1> icarus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:23] <derenrich> Darael: I believe it's a security reason, but I can't remember how
[23:23] <maco> Berzerker: /usr/share/applications/ has a .desktop file for firefox
[23:23] <soulwarp> mido:  you can right click the application drop menu and remove programs you don't want others to use
[23:23] <Viking_> anyone having problems with icons and folder disappearing on desktop ubuntu 9.04
[23:23] <maco> Berzerker: or edit the menu and manually rename it Firefox and replace the icon
[23:23] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, see, I have a /home/bill/tmp that I have in my path statement, therefore I run all install scripts from there and then I don't need to do that
[23:23] <Berzerker> how would I do this on UNR?
[23:24] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, it's not a big deal :)
[23:24] <kaddi> has anyone used these instructions to debug intel freezes: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-freeze-test or is knowledgable enough to help me run the debug mode all the time and get rid of the whole ssh step :p
[23:24] <rambo298> anyone tried quicken with VMware on 9.04?
[23:26] <bnovc> how do i get the screen-256color TERM in ubuntu?
[23:26] <mvsn> hello.. im wondering is there any way to broadcast the music played from ubuntu over the network so other workstations (linux/windows) can synchronize in and play through other speakers?
[23:26] <soulwarp> rambo298: i've read quicken works with wine also
[23:26] <SealedWithAKiss> mrwes, oh okay. Thanks!
[23:26] <rambo298> soulwarp: that's the crux of my q; i need to run quicken on linux ... so wine is ok given google has invested in it?
[23:26] <pharsalus> I'm after a scrolling ticker that lists the FTSE 100 as a full-width bar across the top/bottom of the screen. Any sugestions? GDesklets, and Google Gadgets didn't have anything.
[23:28] <soulwarp> rambo298: here is some information that might help you http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=15421
[23:28] <alokito> why isn't firefox 3.5 default in ubuntu yet?
[23:28] <_Lucretia_> is there an up to date bluetooth config howto anywhere? I found an old one.
[23:28] <soulwarp> alokito: It should be when 9.10 comes out
[23:28] <heroid> alokito, cuz firefox 3.0 is better
[23:29] <jedc> alokito, i tried it today and it still had a few issues for me, google search bar didnt work for instance
[23:29] <owner> hello. I need help. I have a HP Mini 110 1033cl and I can't get the intel sound to work
[23:29] <owner> I've tried everything
[23:29] <owner> Do I need to install alsa conf
[23:30] <owner> if so where do I get the packages from
[23:30] <owner> #ubuntu-help
[23:30] <pharsalus> I'm after a scrolling ticker that lists the FTSE 100 as a full-width bar across the top/bottom of the screen. Any sugestions? GDesklets, and Google Gadgets didn't have anything.
[23:30] <jedc> owner, its probably already installed
[23:30] <owner> alsa conf?
[23:30] <owner> in 9.04
[23:31] <owner> then how come if I type alsaconf or alsa-conf in terminal it says it has no idea what that command is
[23:31] <mrwes> owner, did you mean to type alsamixer?
[23:32] <jedc> owner, actually, i dont see it in the repos, maybe asoundconf-gtk?
[23:32] <Berzerker> maco, found a way to update it
[23:32] <owner> ah
[23:32] <Berzerker> maco, like actually update 3.0 itself to 3.5.2, by downloading it from getfirefox.com
[23:32] <owner> let me try that
[23:32] <Berzerker> maco, worked like a charm, thanks.
[23:33] <jedc> owner, but you can get all the packages from the software repositories either using the command line with apt-get or aptitude, or using the synaptic package manager
[23:33] <savanny1976u> Hi everyone, I just install "Nvidia  GeForce Gts 250". I can't get it to work with "Ubuntu 9.04". Does anyone have any Idea how to configure this?? I'm thinking to download the Device from a live Nvidia cd using "Wine", but I'm not sure. Thank you..
[23:33] <maco> Berzerker: please note that you will NOT receive security updates that way.  well i mean...firefox might tell you tehre are updates, but youll need to either install them manually or run firefox as root (BAD IDEA) for its updater to do the update
[23:33] <owner> ok
[23:33] <owner> I did that and it asked for the default card
[23:33] <owner> i picked intel
[23:33] <pharsalus> Anyone know of a financial tickertape widget/gadget/etc?
[23:33] <Berzerker> maco, why wouldn't I receive security updates that way?
[23:33] <maco> Berzerker: unless you have it sititng in home instead of installing it somewhere, that is
[23:33] <_Lucretia_> can someone tell me where an up to date bluetooth config howto can be found? I found an old one that's well out of date.
[23:33] <owner> do I need to restart my sound system?
[23:33] <Hiryu> is anyone aware of the issues with the xorg no-backfill patch? Does it strictly cause issues with the intel drivers or are other drivers affected as well?
[23:34] <Berzerker> maco, I have it installed in /opt
[23:34] <maco> Berzerker: and firefox cannot write to /opt
[23:34] <Berzerker> it's linked in another folder
[23:34] <maco> Berzerker: so it cant install security updates unless it is run as root, which would be a bad ida
[23:34] <jedc> Berzerker, firefox-3.5 is in the repos, better way to install it
[23:34] <Berzerker> to /usr/something
[23:34] <unop> jedc, i just got your questions about permissions and not allowing users to enter directories outside their homedirs - well, no, it's almost impossible given traditional unix permissions  - you could perhaps do it with POSIX ACLs, but the point is you need to be able to enter a directory to execute a program/script/etc within it
[23:34] <maco> Berzerker: *idea
[23:34] <Berzerker> jedc, I like to keep things clean
[23:34] <maco> jedc: he doesnt want it to say Shiretoko
[23:34] <Kelder> savanny1976u: basically when you install jaunty 9.04 you have the option to search for 'hardwire drivers' and if you do that that should take care of your graphics card
[23:35] <maco> Berzerker: er...and having it not able to install security updates is cleaner?
[23:35] <Berzerker> maco, yes
[23:35] <openback> I have a widescreen laptop (Dell Inspiron 710m with Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME) that was automatically set at 1280x800 forever, and just recently, I'm stuck in 4:3 fro some reason. My gdm is in properly resolution and not my desktop
[23:35] <jedc> maco, i see
[23:35] <maco> Berzerker: security updates are a good thing dude
[23:35] <openback> oops, I have a widescreen laptop (Dell Inspiron 710m with Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME) that was automatically set at  1280x800 forever, and just recently, I'm stuck in 4:3 fro some reason. My gdm is in properly resolution and  not my desktop
[23:36] <openback> argh, sorry :'P
[23:36] <kaddi> Berzerker if you don't apply security updates for 3.5 it would be wiser to stay with 3.0 all together
[23:36] <Berzerker> so I'll run it as root and install a security update for a second
[23:36] <Berzerker> no big deal
[23:36] <savanny1976u> Thanks Kelder. I tried that but the Hardware ubuntu hardware search wouldn't  Activate the software
[23:36] <Berzerker> unless you want to tell me how to rename it to firefox and change the icon
[23:36] <openback> I have a widescreen laptop (Dell Inspiron 710m with Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME) that was automatically  set at  1280x800 forever, and just recently, I'm stuck in 4:3 fro some reason. My gdm is in properly  resolution and  not my desktop. If I attempt to change my res, the display is squashed. Any idea how to fix this?
[23:37] <openback> wow, I typed that like I was on drugs, lol
[23:37] <savanny1976u> I think the hardware search didn't find the Device
[23:37] <jedc> unop, ah, thanks, food for thought
[23:37] <jedc> unop, hehe, reading back a way huh
[23:38] <spO> openback, what kind of drugs?
[23:38] <Vigh> is there any way I can install dapper packages on jaunty? (the package I'm trying to install is obsolete, but I need this specific version of it)
[23:38] <spO> openback, what drivers are you using?
[23:38] <jedc> unop, it looks like you can make directories unreadable though, so they can go into them, but not see anything there right?
[23:38] <savanny1976u> It did recognize the hardware but couldn't retrieve the software
[23:38] <rambo298> openback: you should verify your xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[23:39] <kaddi> Berzerker you could set up firefox-3.5 as your default browser, then every thing will be started by FF 3.5, if you want to start FF 3.5 from console by using the command firefox you can set an alias firefox= firefox-3.5 in bashrc. I have never bothered with the icon though
[23:39] <ctmjr> savanny1976u: go here look for your card and see what driver nvidia recommends http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[23:39] <savanny1976u> Thanks ctmjr, I will check that..
[23:39] <kaddi> Berzerker if it only affects your startmenu you can edit the startmenu entry
[23:39] <TimReichhart> could anybody please tell me where I can place faxgetty on startup on 8.04.3 TLS
[23:40] <openback> spO: The standard intel drivers? I never installed anything seperate
[23:40] <openback> rambo298: I've checked that, It's the simplest config you can get and hasn't changed in the longest. The weird part is my gdm is in the proper resolution still, just not my desktop once I log in
[23:41] <Some_Person> how do ribbon cables go bad?
[23:41] <rambo298> openback: what version of U ?
[23:41] <_Lucretia_> hcitool scan gives me "Device is not available: No such device" I'm on jaunty, I have a broadcom dongle, how do i get it working?
[23:41] <openback> rambo298: 9.04
[23:42] <soreau> Some_Person: They can just like any other wire can have a short in it
[23:42] <Moulan-> hello,  anyone here has any experience with the notebook hp mini 1000, running ubuntu jaunty on it? /q me
[23:45] <elioenai> Does anyone here know why sound may work when you first start your computer up, but then stops working after a few minutes in uuntu?
[23:47] <jMyles> Let's say I have an output from a command line and I want to grab the nth element from each row.... How?
[23:47] <kaddi> jMyles try awk
[23:48] <rambo298> openback: go read #5 here; it may be your issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxinerama/+bug/61727
[23:48] <jMyles> kaddi: awk $4 or something like that?  I've done it before, I just can't recall.
[23:48] <starwind> hey, what command would I need to use to install guest additions in karmic guest
[23:48] <rambo298> openback: then again ... maybe not
[23:49] <kaddi> jMyles I haven't used it in a while either.. but from memory: awk -F"seperator you're using" '{print $4}' should work
[23:49] <Sp0tter> What is a good open source multiplatform backup solution that can take images of the hard disk and restore from a network drive using a bootable rescue cd?   needs to run on windows and linux
[23:49] <jedc> starcraftman, what are guest additions?
[23:49] <ctmjr> starwind: you can ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:49] <starwind> oops, sorry  :(
[23:49] <starwind> thanks
[23:50] <nanotube> kaddi: yea, that should be it
[23:50] <Vigh> is there any way I can install dapper packages (from the ubuntu repos) on jaunty? (the package I'm trying to install is obsolete, but I need this specific version of it)
[23:51] <jedc> Vigh, i would suggest downloading it manually and installing with "dpkg -i <packagename>" instead of trying to set it up with apt
[23:53] <mido> can anybody help me with preventing certain users from accessing certain applications?
[23:54] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hey guys
[23:54] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> o /
[23:55] <nanotube> !hi | Kamus_H_Zwisch
[23:55] <coordinador> mido, you can make a special group
[23:55] <coordinador> and give to the executable the permissions of execute to its own group
[23:55] <Berzerker> kaddi, how do I uninstall it from my manual install?
[23:55] <coordinador> sorry for my english, my main language is spanish and im in a hurry
[23:56] <mido> thx coordinador
[23:56] <nanotube> Berzerker: for installing mozilla build of firefox, i'd recommend ubuntuzilla (http://ubuntuzilla.sourceforge.net)
[23:57] <jedc> mido, that way only members of the group (and root) could execute the program
[23:58] <kaddi> Berzerker once you installed something, your package manager should be able to find it
[23:58] <Kelder> ideally
[23:58] <cr0mulent> can I move my current ubuntu installation off my hard drive and onto a usb drive?
[23:58] <amitmali> hi
[23:58] <amitmali> i m new to linux and ubuntu
[23:58] <amitmali> i need some help
[23:58] <mido> i want to prevent one user only from acessing certain applications?
[23:59] <Berzerker> kaddi, I found out how to change the icon/text. it's in the Main Menu application under preferences.
[23:59] <Berzerker> for future references
[23:59] <amitmali> i have an installation problem
[23:59] <edbian> !ask | amitmali
[23:59] <edbian> amitmali: What is your question"
[23:59] <edbian> ?
[23:59] <Kelder> yes, but if you want it to be bootable you might want to write a special usb
[23:59] <kaddi> Berzerker :)


[01:36] <aluno> opa
[01:36] <aluno> bora ver
[01:36] <aluno> se dar certo
[01:36] <aluno> chat
[01:59] <studio-user318> Hello is there any way to run hydrogen and rhythmbox at the same time? I'm trying to program drums for a cover and would like to play a bit and then figure out the drum pattern.
[02:00] <studio-user318> With having to consistantly open and close hydrogen.
[02:01] <studio-user318> *without
[02:02] <OvenWerks> I don't know much about rythmbox
[02:02] <OvenWerks> Can it run on jack?
[02:03] <studio-user318> I'm not sure.
[02:03] <studio-user318> What about vlc instead?
[02:04] <OvenWerks> Even if it expects pulse, it should be possible to bridge pulse to jack... in fact it should happen out of the box for ubuntustudio
[02:05] <studio-user318> With vlc only or both vlc and rhythmbox?
[02:06] <OvenWerks> just open pavucontrol after jack is running and goto the playback tab. It should show what device it thinks it is feeding and that should drop down and jacksink should be available.
[02:06] <OvenWerks> any desktop application
[02:06] <studio-user318> okay thanks I'll try that
[02:06] <OvenWerks> This assumes you are running jack from qjackctl
[02:07] <OvenWerks> and it is running the jackdbus version of jack
[02:08] <studio-user318> I was just opening hydrogen directly then opening rhythmbox, should I open jack first? 16.04 no kx
[02:14] <studio-user318> okay thanks! opening jack first put a option box beside rhythmbox in pulse audio control that bridged it for me once I clicked on it.
[02:17] <sinewav> personally I think it's easier to use a audio editor like Audacity when programming a song like that. Let's you loop on parts until you get the feel right.
[02:17] <sinewav> just missed him.........
[02:22] <OvenWerks> sinewav: I don't think he is editing the wav file, just listening to it while playing with hydrogen
[02:23] <OvenWerks> (or maybe it is an mp3 for all I know)
[02:25] <sinewav> I know. What I'm saying is, it's easier to learn a song using a audio editor because you can loop the harder parts.
[02:44] <wassman> join
[13:38] <tim_> Probably best asked on the #Ubuntu channel, but I've tried to get various version of Flash plugin to work on Firefox or Opera but no joy.
[15:58] <studio-user890> Pessoal preciso de ajuda
[16:00] <studio-user890> @eiky i need sme help
[16:01] <studio-user890> anybody is here?
[16:01] <OvenWerks> Best to ask a full question and wait for someone to answer.
[16:02] <studio-user890> ok!
[16:02] <studio-user890> i trying to use a soundcard
[16:02] <studio-user890> cirrus logic crystal
[16:02] <OvenWerks> Many people are monitoring but not watching closely an answer may come in minutes or hours.
[16:03] <studio-user890> the soundcard does not appear for choicing


[02:35] <xubuntu81i> I'm installing xubuntu 19.10, and it's been at the step that says "saving installed packages" for about 4 hours now.  Is that normal?
[02:38] <Bashing-om> xubuntu81i: Nope, not the norm - should be but a matter of minutes. Did you verify the .iso and the copy of the .iso to the install medium ?
[02:39] <xubuntu81i> I don't think I did, no... let me see what I can find out...
[02:41] <Bashing-om> xubuntu81i: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck .
[02:41] <xubuntu81i> What's the easiest way to do that?  I still have access to the downloaded xubuntu-19.10-desktop-amd64.iso file, along with some other files that I'm pretty sure I downloaded from the same place at the same time: MD5SUMS, SHA1SUMS, SHA256SUMS, MD5SUMS.gpg, SHA1SUMS.gpg, and SHA256SUMS.gpg
[02:41] <xubuntu81i> you replied while I was typing; let me check out what you sent
[02:45] <xubuntu81i> md5sum -c MD5SUMS responds with: xubuntu-19.10-desktop-amd64.iso: OK
[02:54] <xubuntu81i> I wrote the iso image to an SD card, and I'm in the middle of installing from it, but I'm also in the "try xubuntu" part of the boot process, so I can also go to /cdrom and run commands.  "md5sum --quiet -c md5sum.txt" reported no errors.
[02:56] <xubuntu81i> In the install window, the message "Saving installed packages..." has a triange next to it; clicking on the triangle made a little console window visible.  Near the very top is this line:
[02:59] <xubuntu81i> Well, it's not letting me copy text from it very easily, but the first few lines are timestamped "Feb 4 23:21:54", which is probably UTC...
[03:00] <xubuntu81i> ...and the more recent lines near the bottom are timestamped "Feb 5 02:48:55", and they're still coming, although pretty slowly.
[03:00] <xubuntu81i> so, about 3 hours so far
[03:01] <xubuntu81i> the last line is "Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1'
[03:05] <xubuntu81i> The only fancy thing I did during the install process was partition the disk myself, creating one partition each for /, /boot, /tmp, /home, /opt, /srv, /usr, /usr/local, /var, and swap.
[03:07] <xubuntu81i> The only filesystem mounted right now is the one for /, and it's only 1% full.
[03:09] <well_laid_lawn> well /boot /tmp /home /usr will need to accessable for the install to finish
[03:09] <xubuntu81i> Maybe I shouldn't do this during an install, but gparted shows that all the partitions I created still have plenty of free space.
[03:11] <xubuntu81i> What do you mean by "accessible"?  Do they need to be mounted or not mounted?  The installed asked me permission to unmount them all before starting, and that's how they are now.
[03:12] <xubuntu81i> ("the installer asked me permission")
[03:14] <xubuntu81i> This might be related -- when I use gparted to create partitions, it allows me the option to align each partition to Cylinder, MiB, or None.  Does that choice matter?
[03:15] <xubuntu81i> I left them all aligned to MiB.
[03:16] <xubuntu81i> ...and they're all ext4 except for the swap partition.
[03:19] <Bashing-om> xubuntu81i: GPT partitoning ? then a ESP partiton is also required.
[03:20] <xubuntu81i> nope -- old-fashioned partitioning with 3 primaries and an extended with several logicals -- and it is not a solid-state drive.
[03:21] <Bashing-om> xubuntu81i: So much then for that thought :(
[03:21] <xubuntu81i> msdos partition table
[03:26] <xubuntu81i> Is this true, even on a spinning-disk drive?  "The Cylinder/Head/Sector values reported by modern disk devices no longer have a direct physical relationship to the data stored on the disk device. Hence it is no longer valid to use this alignment setting to achieve enhanced performance. "
[03:26] <xubuntu81i> quote from https://gparted.sourceforge.io/display-doc.php?name=help-manual#gparted-specify-partition-alignment
[03:31] <xubuntu81i> Well, if it really "should be but a matter of minutes", then it sounds like it would be a more effective use of my time to abort the installation and try again.  Thanks for responding to my questions.


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[00:18] <[Relic]> nvidia drivers or X fixed from the point of the glx crashes about a week and a half ago?
[00:22] <xixor> hi
[00:31] <xixor> well
[00:32] <xixor> adding and moving widgets to a panel is a very frustrating experience to say the least
[00:33] <NaN123> a question!
[00:47] <dj_segfault> Hi.  I'm trying to print from one kubutnu 12.04 box (A) to another.(B).  B sees the printer, and I had no problems adding it, but when I try to print a test page, it says "Printer FOO may not be connected." every few seconds.  The printer is connected to A and works fine.  AFAICT, CUPS is set up to accept jobs from everyone on system A.  What can I check out to diagnose this?
[00:49] <xixor> printing.. in linux?  lol.
[00:54] <dj_segfault> xixor: Thanks for the vote of confidence ;)
[00:55] <dj_segfault> In the document status the status just stays "Processing"
[01:55] <vadrao> Can any body let me know any backup utility for kde?
[01:56] <DarthFrog> vadrao:  rdiff-backup, kbackup
[01:57] <vadrao> DarthFrog: Thanks. Does any of it do incremental backups and file versioning ?
[01:57] <DarthFrog> yes.  rdiff-backup
[01:57] <DarthFrog> vadrao:  You can find more from "apt-cache search backup | less" from the command line.
[01:59] <vadrao> DarthFrog: That is great. I will give it a try. Guess rdiff-backup does not have any simple gui?
[01:59] <DarthFrog> Don't know, sorry.
[01:59] <DarthFrog> I use plain rsync. :-)
[01:59] <DarthFrog> Or CloneZilla.
[02:01] <vadrao> I was also thinking about rsync. May be I have to take a plunge :)
[02:01] <DarthFrog> rsync rocks! :-)   Rdiff-backup is based on rsync.
[02:02] <vadrao> You use automated scripts for rsync? or issue commands individually
[02:02] <DarthFrog> Both.
[02:02] <DarthFrog> Depends upon what I want to do.
[02:03] <vadrao> Great thanks. I am tired of tired of things not having KDE frontend :)
[02:04] <DarthFrog> Then kbackup will be your onion.
[02:06] <vadrao> Kbackup just creates file archives of the folders
[02:07] <vadrao> does not do any version control and all
[02:08] <vadrao> from the kbackup homepage "It can use tar or afio to create the archives.  It can even compress using gzip."
[02:17] <vertago1> I need help finding the package that has the debuging symbols for plasma-desktop
[02:21] <vertago1> Nevermind I have it already, but the crash handler doesn't think I do. I have two bugs to report now :(
[02:23] <[Relic]> nvidia drivers or X fixed from the point of the glx crashes about a week and a half ago?  just wondering if it is now safe to do a version upgrade; usually by the second week most of the bugs are worked out
[02:26] <simplew> is anyone getting webkam to detect webcam?
[02:31] <DarthFrog> simplew:  have you tried kamoso?
[02:34] <hays> holy balls that was a painful upgrade
[02:34] <hays> lordievader: thanks for helping me through it
[02:41] <simplew> DarthFrog: no
[02:44] <simplew> DarthFrog: kamoso is showing me mirroed, my left side appears on the right
[02:59] <DarthFrog> Well, at least you know your webcam works. :-)
[03:10] <sciyo> nom nom nom
[03:21] <HulkHogan> quit
[03:32] <c2tarun> can anyone please tell me how can I put my laptop to sleep in Kubuntu?
[03:33] <c2tarun> actually I just checked on internet :( I am not getting sleep option in Leave section :(
[05:06] <Izinucs> I'm having issues with help popups in Libreoffice and other programs being a black rectangle. Help popups being those things that open when you hover the mouse over a menu or menu function.  Any solution? It seems to be gtk oriented but I'm really not sure.
[05:33] <Ox0000> Hi, I just upgraded to Kubuntu 12.10 form 12.04, and I am having some problems with my display. Sounds like the graphics driver is not properly installed. Any ideas? Here is the lspci: http://pastebin.com/fDe4Dg5U
[05:35] <Izinucs> Ox0000: look for the "restricted drive" option in the menu.  It should list the ati driver you can install.
[05:36] <Ox0000> lzinucs: which menu?
[05:36] <Ox0000> Izinucs: which menu?
[05:39] <Izinucs> Ox0000: hang on and I'll look
[05:39] <Ox0000> OK, thanks.
[05:40] <Izinucs> Ox0000: under System > Additional Drivers
[05:41] <Ox0000> Izinucs: It says: No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.
[05:42] <Izinucs> Ox0000: have you done all your updates?  from a terminal copy and paste this.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and then look again if that pulled in some updates.
[08:36] <lordievader> hays: You still around? You are now rocking your 12.10 install?
[09:39] <claydoh> endafy
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:45] <yofel> does someone here have some postfix experience?
[10:45] <yofel> I'm trying to set up outwared mail relay for *one* local user, but don't understand how the smptd_recipient/sender_restrictions work. All I get is that *all* local users outward mail is relayed
[10:46] <lordievader> yofel: I'd say try #ubuntu-server, I think you have a better change of getting answers there than here.
[10:47] <yofel> true, I'll try there later
[11:29] <Chet> hello is here anyone that speaks spanish?
[11:30] <lordievader> !spanish | Chet
[12:52] <noaXess> hihooo.. :)
[12:53] <noaXess> since 12.10 and pidgin 2.10.6 i have the problem, that i need to deactivate/activate accounts to get online,.... only changing the status doesn't work... some network connection problem i think.. but network is running perfectly.. i use wicd for connection LAN/WLAN
[13:30] <noaXess> ha got fixe dmy pidgin problem, cause is use wicd, i need to purge network-manager... so network is working correctly now ;)
[13:30] <xixor> yo, does anyone know where to change the Krunner keystroke from alt+f2 to alt+space?  I can't find it anywhere in keyboard shortcuts, and everywhere I look on the web indicates that it is in a few places in keyboard shortcuts that no longer seem to exist (such as KDE Components)
[13:32] <lordievader> xixor: System Settings -> Shortcuts -> Global keyboard shortcuts -> Run Command Interface -> Run Command
[13:32] <xixor> lordievader: ah, thanks.. .lol, how did I miss that
[13:33] <lordievader> xixor: You are not the first.
[13:34] <BluesKaj> !who
[13:34] <BluesKaj> ok gents just ignore the above , i was testing the bot factoids
[13:38] <xixor> !factoids
[13:41] <xixor> I know this isn't #vbox, but I am having trouble getting a VM to autostart when my system boots.  I have registered the VM, set --autostart-enabled on, but it won't start on boot.  After booting, if I run: sudo service vboxautostart-service start, it seems to run fine.   Right now I am thinking that the /etc/init.d/vboxautostart-service script isn't started by the sudo root user when the system starts up?  Or that script isn't set to start up by d
[13:42] <BluesKaj> Graf_Westerholt, usually when I'm not at my pc , I'll mark myself "away"
[13:42] <Graf_Westerholt> :)
[13:44] <BluesKaj> It's good to know that the nouveau is buggy on some nvidia cards , I wasn't aware that it was and I've been recommending it's use thinking it was problem free, Graf_Westerholt
[13:45] <Graf_Westerholt> Me, too.
[13:45] <xixor> for example, I used this command to enable the init.d scrit: sudo update-rc.d vboxautostart-service defaults 99 10
[13:46] <Graf_Westerholt> My next problem is the „suspend to ram“. :) Linux goes to suspend to ram, but the PC keeps running, means the CPU fan is running but the hard drives are of. I cannot wake it up, I have to do a reset.
[13:47] <Graf_Westerholt> *off
[13:47] <lordievader> xixor: Isn't that command without the "99 10"?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> xixor, perhaps set the script in system settings> startup & shutdown
[13:48] <lordievader> xixor: Ah never mind.
[13:48] <xixor> BluesKaj: I'd like it to run on system start, not when I log into KDE, that area will run the scripts when I log on to kde, right?
[13:48] <lordievader> xixor: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-manage-services-with-update-rc.d
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Graf_Westerholt, are you trying to shutdown ? , if so there's a small^ beside the red shutdown button
[13:49] <BluesKaj> click that
[13:49] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj, I am not stupid ;)
[13:50] <BluesKaj> xixor, then your run level should be set for the script , but not sure how that works anymore
[13:51] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj, Kubuntu does go to suspend to RAM. But does not finish it.
[13:51] <xixor> BluesKaj: Yes.. for instance, there is a script S20vboxautostart-service -> /init.d/vboxautostart-service in /etc/rc5.d
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Graf_Westerholt, not stupid of course , but I was getting the suspend to ram when clicking the shudown
[13:52] <lordievader> xixor: What is in the /etc/init.d/vboxautostart-service ?
[13:53] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj, no that's all ok. If I click shutdown is shuts down and the PC is off.
[13:53] <xixor>  lordievader : It is a script provided by virtualbox to auto start virtual machines
[13:54] <lordievader> xixor: Yes but what is in it, perhaps it is waiting for something.
[13:55] <BluesKaj> hmm, not here , I get suspend to ram , I have to click on the the little ^ to shutdown
[13:55] <xixor> What user do run-level 5 scripts run as?  Do they run as root?
[13:55] <lordievader> xixor: Yes.
[13:55] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj, how did you do that? I like to switch Hibernat and shutdown.
[13:56] <xixor> lordievader: When I run:  sudo /etc/init.d/vboxautostart-service start   so it seems to work
[13:57] <xixor> lordievader: I think that a problem might be that virtualbox creates a database of VMs for each user, and you have to register the database.  Since there is no root user, it can't find the database when the system boots.  However, when I sudo as root, it somehow finds the database I made for root through sudo
[13:58] <lordievader> xixor: Login as root (sudo -i) and run VBoxManage list vms
[13:58] <lordievader> err vboxmanage*
[13:59] <xixor> lordievader: Oh, neat, I didn't know you could actually log in as root
[13:59] <xixor> lordievader: I thought there was "no" root user the way it was setup with sudo
[14:00] <lordievader> xixor: There is a root user, but it is disabled, you can not login with username root. su root will error.
[14:01] <xixor> ah, I see
[14:01] <xixor> yes, so root has the VM registered in the database
[14:01] <lordievader> xixor: Is your vm going to be headless?
[14:01] <xixor> lordievader: Yes
[14:02] <xixor> lordievader: It runs my awesome website, www.xixor.net
[14:02] <xixor> lordievader: It is important for the entire internets to have zero downtime from this website
[14:02] <lordievader> xixor: You could use a work-around, make your own script with vboxmanage startvm <vm name> --type headless
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Graf_Westerholt, well I'm currently testing 13.04 so our shutdown options obviously differ
[14:03] <lordievader> xixor: Add "" to the name though.
[14:03] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj ok. Do you have an idea how I can change shutdown with hibernate button?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Graf_Westerholt, no idea
[14:05] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj, do you have an idea what I can do that my Kubuntu finishes going to STR and stops the cpu fan?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Graf_Westerholt, laptop?
[14:05] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj, no, old tower.
[14:06] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj, you want to see computer details?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> not necessary , iot won't help Graf_Westerholt
[14:06] <Graf_Westerholt> ok
[14:09] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj, I had the same problem with STD. It works with HIBERNATE_MODE="shutdown".
[14:44] <SpenserWilde> Hi all.
[14:44] <SpenserWilde> Is there an on-screen German keyboard application for Ubuntu?
[14:52] <Linusnewb> hi
[14:53] <Linusnewb> can anyone connect with usb modem zte mf 190?
[14:54] <Linusnewb> :'(
[14:59] <lordievader> !patience | Linusnewb
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Linusnewb, this might help , scroll down to #9 , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1822933
[15:14] <oneadvent> can anyone tell me where to get to gamma settings?
[15:30] <Linusnewb> I don't have any blacklisted modems in mode.d
[15:31] <Linusnewb> I had connection before with kubuntu 12.04 but after dist upgrade not I have a error message that the modem hang up by wvdial and pppd
[15:33] <Linusnewb> my wvdial settings is the same and I can see my modem by using lsusb
[15:56] <lordievader> oneadvent: You could use xrandr for your gamma settings.
[16:06] <oneadvent> alrighty i'll go with it lordievader i was hoping it was part of the normal system-settings
[16:06] <lordievader> oneadvent: In 12.10 I did see a Gamma thing under the system settings but I wasn't able to dial in any gamma settings.
[16:07] <oneadvent> what option did you use lordievader
[16:07] <oneadvent> i couldn't find it at all.
[16:08] <lordievader> oneadvent: For what?
[16:08] <oneadvent> well
[16:08] <oneadvent> torchlight is too dark
[16:08] <oneadvent> :( i'm too old to see stuff in the dark anymore
[16:08] <lordievader> oneadvent: For xrandr you mean?
[16:08] <oneadvent> naaa it is a game. i figured i could turn up the whole system and maybe that game would look better too
[16:09] <lordievader> oneadvent: xrandr --output <display-name> --gamma <r>:<g>:<b>
[16:10] <oneadvent> alright
[16:10] <oneadvent> thx
[16:40] <c2tarun> my KDE screen is freezing after sometime. Nothing is reponding not even Ctrl+Alt+F2. is there any place (any log) or something from where I can find the problem?
[16:40] <Obsidian1723> You could check in /var/log/messages
[16:41] <lordievader> c2tarun: Try /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg, seems to me like a gfx driver that is failing.
[16:41] <Obsidian1723> It may be a problem with X and not KDE.
[16:42] <lordievader> c2tarun: That is also a good one, check Xorg.log too.
[16:42] <Obsidian1723> You can also always try sudo dpkg-reconfigure name-of-the-package-here
[16:42] <Obsidian1723> ie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[16:42] <Obsidian1723> ie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde-desktop
[16:42] <Obsidian1723> that will set it back to "factory default", so to speak.
[16:42] <c2tarun> dont you guys think that these logs will also get updated when I hard boot my lappy?
[16:43] <Obsidian1723> They will, but old logs don't vanquish on reboot,.
[16:43] <Obsidian1723> logs arel ogs and remain unless deleted.
[16:44] <c2tarun> Obsidian1723: yeah, but I have to figure out the point just before freeze, any suggestions for that?
[16:44] <Obsidian1723> Well, you would need to have something active logging all the time, like sysklogd
[16:45] <c2tarun> what is that?
[16:47] <Obsidian1723> so you can specify exactly what you want to watch. The system logs all the time, but if you suspect something and want to actively monitor it (if the system doesn't monitor it by default), then you need another tool to set that up.
[16:57] <c2tarun> Obsidian1723: is there any tutorial on this?
[17:04] <BluesKaj> bbl...stuff to do
[17:05] <Obsidian1723> on logging a specific item?
[17:06] <Obsidian1723> sudo apt-get install sysklogd && man sysklogd
[17:23] <xixor> hi
[17:30] <dougl> hello
[17:38]  * BluesKaj takes a break from yardwork ..sips
[17:40] <dougl> snow in the yard here
[17:42] <BluesKaj> yeah , we have clear skies but it was -5C last night and it's only 8C right now ...vacuuming up the rest of the leaves with the mower
[17:46] <oneadvent> it is HOT here...stupid florida always hot
[17:46] <xixor> BluesKaj: where u at?
[17:46] <Obsidian1723> he I just spent a mo0nth in FL on vacation
[17:47] <oneadvent> Obsidian1723: bet it was hot
[17:47] <Obsidian1723> not by the ocean, but Orlando was hot and humid.
[17:47] <Obsidian1723> then again, it was the high 90s where Im from before I went to FL, so  I was used to it.
[17:48] <oneadvent> i guess. so long as you dont go outside it isn't that hot i guess
[17:48] <oneadvent> lol
[17:48] <Obsidian1723> FL seems nice, but al lthe crazy news seems to come from there.... plus, I know the hjob market sucks, and you can't openly carry.... otherwisae, Id move there
[17:48] <oneadvent> i never had a problem with a job, get offers all the time.
[17:49] <Obsidian1723> me either
[17:49] <oneadvent> i dont own a gun so no prob there
[17:49] <Obsidian1723> I own a few.
[17:49] <oneadvent> and yea there are crazies here no question
[17:49] <Obsidian1723> what do you do for work?
[17:49] <oneadvent> eh i have kids, i get worried
[17:49] <oneadvent> programming or sys admin
[17:49] <oneadvent> whatever fits at the tiem
[17:49] <Obsidian1723> ah cool.
[17:49] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[17:49] <oneadvent> :D
[17:49] <oneadvent> ok Tm_T
[17:50] <Obsidian1723> k
[17:50] <Obsidian1723> oneadvent: yer not in there heh
[17:50] <kepler> so i just install kubuntu -- normally use suse, and am wondering why my DNS server is <IP_ADDRESS>, even when i statically assign my info
[17:50] <BluesKaj> xixor, 350km/250mi or so north of Toronto , on the Lake Huron North shore
[17:50] <xixor> BluesKaj: lol.  I'm in Sudbury
[17:51] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: xixor: please? (:
[17:51] <oneadvent> nope Obsidian1723 imma about to leave anyway :P
[17:51] <Obsidian1723> kepler: cat /etc/resolv.conf and what does it say?
[17:51] <Obsidian1723> ah ok
[17:51] <kepler> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:51] <BluesKaj> heh , I'm 40miles west of Sudbury
[17:51] <kepler> says "do not edit by hand -- your changes will be overwritten" too
[17:52] <Tm_T> kepler: that's thanks to dnsmasq I think
[17:52] <Obsidian1723> kepler: also cat /etc/networ/interfaces
[17:52] <Tm_T> kepler: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[17:52] <BluesKaj> xixor, join us in #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:52] <Obsidian1723> Tm_T: correct
[17:53] <Obsidian1723> kepler: also cat /etc/networ/interfaces --- what does it say?
[17:54] <kepler> # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
[17:54] <kepler> auto lo
[17:54] <kepler> iface lo inet loopback
[17:54] <Obsidian1723> Here is now mine is setup, this may help you..... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1312998/
[17:55] <Obsidian1723> I'm not setting static, but I could and it's just commented out.
[17:55] <Tm_T> no
[17:55] <Obsidian1723> no what?
[17:55] <Tm_T> kepler: Obsidian1723: Kubuntu leaves all that to networkmanager
[17:55] <Tm_T> that blog post I linked above might enlighten the thing quite nicely
[17:57] <Obsidian1723> so how do you setup static then in the nm-tool ?
[17:58] <kepler> i just added entries to head in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/
[17:58] <Obsidian1723> I always did it via the /etc/network/interfaces
[17:59] <Obsidian1723> it says to not edit by hand because they will be overwritten
[17:59] <Obsidian1723>  in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[17:59] <kepler> yeah
[17:59] <kepler> but that blog post says to do that :/
[18:02] <Tm_T> networkmanager should have name server configuration available
[18:04] <kepler> dropping that line from /etc/NetworkManager.conf or whatever fixed it
[18:05] <kepler> ty Tm_T
[18:45] <dougl> it would be so cool to hook up my kubutu to my 62" tv and run xbmc on it... if I could only copy movies from my mac to my kubuntu.
[18:46] <lordievader> dougl: Can Mac's handle nfs shares or something like that?
[18:46] <dougl> lordievader, sec I will google...
[18:47] <xixor> dougl: You can hook your mac to your kubuntu via samba, I did got that going last night
[18:48] <lordievader> Yes samba can work too, though nfs is faster (and less secure)
[18:48] <dougl> samba is my priference.... xixor
[18:49] <xixor> is speed that important though?  samba is easy to setup on both client/server end, and fast enough to stream HD movies from
[18:50] <lordievader> xixor: Perhaps not, but if you also want to use it for data transfer, then yes speed is important.
[18:50] <dougl> when I try to copy the file (movie) to my kubuntu my mac says I can't because I dont have permission to reead them.
[18:51] <dougl> that is when I am connected as guest and I cannot even connect as my user
[18:52] <xixor> dougl: You have to use smbpasswd to set  a password for your user
[18:52] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, I tried using dns nameserver in /etc/network/interfaces , but resolv.conf still got overwritten to so I had to add them to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[18:52] <dougl> oh?
[18:53] <lordievader> BluesKaj: The dns-nameservers option works for my vm's, not sure what is in /network/interfaces, let me check.
[18:53] <xixor> dougl: sudo smbpasswd -a <user>
[18:53] <lordievader> BluesKaj: resolv.conf I mean.
[18:53] <BluesKaj> lordievader, I'm not using network manager
[18:54] <lordievader> BluesKaj: My vm's aren't using it either. Static ip in /etc/network/interface,, its getting copied correctly btw.
[18:55] <BluesKaj> ok , lordievader I'll chack that out later ..bbiab ...wife needs help
[18:57] <dougl> xixor, that was easy... working like a charm... thanks guys
[18:57] <xixor> dougl: coo
[19:02] <dougl> I have a video cable and audio cable running up there too
[19:11] <BluesKaj> lordievader, i forgot to ask , is network manager enabled on your setup ?
[19:13] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Have to mention that the vms are server installs, and they do not have a Network Manager deamon running. It's not even present in /etc/init.d/
[19:15] <BluesKaj> lordievader, ok good , because I don't have NM installed
[19:19] <xixor> well, I will install xfce4, to play with it
[19:20] <BluesKaj> ok , going to check the changes
[19:22] <bjrohan> I am having media issues on my system.  First is getting ffmpeg to work correctly. I installed via package manager, it didn't work couldn't find codecs, so I uninstalled, and installed via instructions found here: https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide
[19:22] <chronos> someone is having issues with full screen windows?
[19:23] <chronos> I trying to watch videos on vlc and full screen does not go to full screen, it stay contained in current window
[19:23] <chronos> I wasn't having that with 12.04
[19:23] <bjrohan> WHen converting files via command line I get a LOT of error messages but it converts, KDenlive doesn't work in converting (can't find ffmpeg possibly?)
[19:24] <bjrohan> ALSO my bigger problem Dragon player garbles my audio when playing video files, BUT if I play the ogv file in Chrome, it is not garbled. Is it a Dragon player issue?
[19:24] <bjrohan> I would really like to be able to record and edit videos, and play them back for my work
[19:25] <xixor> hm. xfce4 seems pretty cool
[19:25] <xixor> bjrohan: I always use vlc to play media
[19:25]  * chronos remembering how good was kaffeine in kde 3...
[19:26] <bjrohan> I am installing that one now :-)
[19:26] <lordievader> bjrohan: Those problems are probably all related to your codec problem, so I suggest to fix that first. And to ask around for only that. Furthermore since I do not know enough about codecs I cannot help you with that, hope someone else comes along who does know, remember !patience.
[19:26] <chronos> why I cant logout from kde in kubuntu?
[19:27] <bjrohan> thank you lordievader
[19:27] <BluesKaj> VLC plays almost every codec and media  wrapper in existence
[19:27] <lordievader> chronos: Can you give a bit more info?
[19:27] <chronos> when go logout, logout window shows with logout, sleep and turn off, with a counter to sleep
[19:28] <chronos> sry, lock, sleep and turn off
[19:28] <bjrohan> VLC plays the files just fine :-)
[19:28] <chronos> I just can't logout
[19:28] <ndegruchy>  chronos: what happens when you try?
[19:29] <chronos> just that window showing and if I wait counter, computer sleeps
[19:29] <ndegruchy> did you try running the logout item? press alt+f2 to open krunner and type "logout" and see if that doesn't bring up the right command
[19:30] <chronos> it shows "Session Management"
[19:32] <chronos> hm, in that window is marked 'confirm logout'.
[19:32] <chronos> if I turn off that feature I can logout
[19:32] <ndegruchy> chronos: yeah, I was about to mention that
[19:32] <chronos> else, confirmation window don't let me do it
[19:32] <chronos> ndegruchy: is a know bug I guess
[19:32] <ndegruchy>  oh?
[19:32] <ndegruchy> I'm running KDE right now and I'm able to logout/shutdown/sleep normally
[19:33] <chronos> hmm so it only happens to me on a fresh install :|
[19:33] <chronos> guys installed from Kubuntu img or from Ubuntu img?\
[19:33] <ndegruchy> kubuntu image
[19:33] <chronos> cuz I did from ubuntu and than did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:34] <chronos> I'll try from kubuntu img
[19:34] <chronos> I have time today hahaha
[19:35] <ndegruchy> chronos: ha, good luck -- I installed kubuntu to skip having to do that very step
[19:36] <xixor> meh, I will stick with KDE plasma as my desktop.  xfce4 looks awesome.  I just don't have the energy for more configurations
[19:37] <ndegruchy> xixor: xfce is great if you want GNOME with all the... well, GNOME
[19:37] <ndegruchy> s/with/without/
[19:37] <xixor> oh, xfce is tied in with gnome?  I thought it was standalone?
[19:37] <ndegruchy> it's tied to GNOME 2, I believe... it's been a while
[19:39] <ndegruchy> yeah, aptitude reports it requires GTK2
[19:40] <xixor> only last nagging issue with kde, is that dolphin seems to take a while to launch, but it's not a big deal
[19:40] <ndegruchy> a very small set of libraries, though
[19:40] <chronos> ndegruchy: take only ~30 min here, not much
[19:41] <ndegruchy> xixor: dolphin is a little heavy, but I find that it's a great file manager, I believe there are lighter options -- some that come with RazorQT might be available
[19:42] <chronos> what is 'kubuntu active tech preview'?
[19:42] <ndegruchy> for touch-enabled devices
[19:43] <chronos> oh, nice
[19:45] <ndegruchy> hard to find a good place for information about it, but there is a blog post with a screenshot
[19:45] <ndegruchy> http://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-active-three/
[19:46] <bjrohan> I am having all kinds of issues with ffmpeg and codecs, and getting files converted, mainly using KDenlive. does anyone have experience in this aren
[19:47] <xixor> hm..... gotta reboot... lols
[19:54] <BluesKaj> lordievader, i guess the server edition doesn't use that silly /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head file , because /etc/resolv.conf is empty unless I add the nameservers to the 'head" file , and /etc/network/interfaces doesn't help connect to the nameservers even if they 're listed
[19:55] <lordievader> BluesKaj: I've read somewhere that in order to have dns-nameservers in /interfaces work you needed a package, lets see if I can find that for you.
[19:56] <lordievader> BluesKaj: The package resolvconf it is appearantly.
[19:56] <BluesKaj> ok lordievader , thanks
[19:59] <natman> unable to shut down my laptop, unless i disable wireless before shut down, can anyone help?
[20:01] <lordievader> natman: You might use a workaround, add the command "rfkill block wifi" to the shutdown routine.
[20:02] <natman> lordievader:  how do i do that, and if i do wil it be turned on during start up?
[20:02] <dougl> that was no good - with the TV upstairs connected the computer defaults to that display.
[20:04] <lordievader> natman: Might very well be, you should look it up on google, I'm not entirely sure but you need to add your script to /etc/rc1.d/.
[20:12] <BluesKaj> dougl, which display ?
[20:14] <dougl> BluesKaj, my POST and bios options display on the tv upstairs with no kb or mouse... also my kubuntu desktop
[20:15] <BluesKaj> dougl, how is the tv connected to the pc?
[20:20] <BluesKaj> in other words, what kind of connection, dougl ?
[20:22] <dougl> svga 15 pin to the monitor on my desk...
[20:22] <dougl> and a square plug to hdmi on the tv...
[20:23] <dougl> the plug on the video card is square multi pin and the other end is hdmi into the tv
[20:23] <lordievader> dougl: DVI? http://www.york.ac.uk/campusservices/avcentre/images/laptop/dvi.jpg
[20:24] <BluesKaj> square multipin or rectangular probly a DVI
[20:24] <dougl> yes dvi
[20:24] <dougl> thanks lordievader BluesKaj :)
[20:25] <BluesKaj> yeah , That's what i usefor our tv since my elcheapos 8400gs has only vga and dvi
[20:27] <apocaliptis> Hi guys. I have problem with my wireless mouse... When i turn on Kubuntu it doesnt work. After this i unplug and plug again usb adapter and mouse start work. What it can be???
[20:27] <apocaliptis> Please help
[20:52] <jmichaelx> each time setting are changed in the network settings manager, i have to enter a password. could anyone tell me how to make it stop that?
[20:53] <lordievader> jmichaelx: Do you have to option "System Connection" checked?
[20:53] <jmichaelx> lordievader: yes, i do
[20:53] <lordievader> jmichaelx: Uncheck that, then it shouldn't ask for a password anymore.
[20:55] <jmichaelx> lordievader: tyvm. i apparently never understood what 'system connection' stood for.
[20:56] <lordievader> jmichaelx: No problem, here to help ;)
[21:20] <workisgreat> hi. i remember there was an update notification applet available for kubuntu 12.04. where did it go in 12.10?
[22:28] <tobiasBora> Hello !
[22:28] <tobiasBora> I've a quite annoying problem since a recent upgrade :
[22:29] <tobiasBora> after the upgrade of mesa and intel pilots, I didn't have any letters in a lot of programs : in firefox we only see the pictures !
[22:30] <tobiasBora> So to solve this problem I followed theses instructions :
[22:30] <tobiasBora> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-enable-intel-sna-acceleration-in.html
[22:32] <tobiasBora> When I'd reboot, the problem of display was repair, however, a new problem appear : the clic of the mouse of my touchpad doesn't work !
[22:32] <tobiasBora> When I try to run synaptiks, I've this error :
[22:32] <tobiasBora> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[22:33] <tobiasBora> Do you have an idea about how solving this problem ?
[22:34] <nsmgo> i've been googling for a console/terminal command to lock my screen; many are for gnome-screen-saver but i'm running kubuntu. any ideas for a solution?
[22:42] <Preflex> nsmgo: dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver.Lock
[22:52] <nsmgo> Preflex: thanks; that would require the xscreensaver package right?
[22:53] <Preflex> nsmgo:  should only require kde's screensaver packages.
[22:53] <Preflex> nsmgo: they're installed by default in kubuntu
[22:57] <nsmgo> Preflex: should I use && or & if i want to link that command with pm-suspend-hyrbird
[23:01] <ninux> hi there! any idea how to figure out wich power-manager is running from terminal?
[23:05] <NaN123> You use youtube-dl
[23:06] <NaN123> ERROR: unable to download video!
[23:20] <xixor> yo, has anyone ever figured out a way to get the mouse wheel to scroll with an acceleration?  Rather than just 3 lines at a time?  Scrolling in linux/kde seems slow and painful compared to windows/osx
[23:40] <myounis> Hi everyone.. I'm struck in a very annoying situation..
[23:41] <myounis> I just changed a little setting in my desktop effects and my computer has become slower than snail..
[23:42] <myounis> I then restored the previous setting but it didn't work.. then I restored the default setting, still it didn't work.
[23:42] <myounis> what' should I do??
[23:43] <handheldCar> Pressing the Enter button on the Kickoff menu does not launch an application. Is there a way to make it launch them?
[23:50] <myounis> sorry. I lost the window..
[23:50] <myounis> Is anyone there..
[23:50] <myounis> ?????