[09:18] <Gnea> shadeslayer: did you check that link?
[09:18]  * aspidites wishes he knew more about pc audio
[09:18] <shadeslayer> hmw: i have to go for now,ill be back in 30 min
[09:18] <shadeslayer> Gnea: ues
[09:19] <shadeslayer> *yes
[09:19] <Gnea> shadeslayer: reply #6 seemed to alude to the possibility of hidden functionality
[09:19] <shadeslayer> Gnea: i have everything in recording set  to 100 pc
[09:20] <Gnea> shadeslayer: k, the mic boost doesn't have a scale, it's just an on/off thing... perhaps it can be found in preferences and then switching tabs?
[09:20] <aspidites> shadeslayer: long shot, but try voice chat software. see if its just recording, or any mic activity that has low output
[09:20] <shadeslayer> Gnea: everything enabled there too,no go
[09:20] <aspidites> shadeslayer: skype has a built in mic test
[09:20] <shadeslayer> aspidites: same problem with skype
[09:20] <Gnea> shadeslayer: maybe the mic cord has a kink in it?
[09:20] <aspidites> shadeslayer: damn
[09:21] <shadeslayer> Gnea: in built,works fine in MS
[09:21] <aspidites> shadeslayer: maybe you're just a low-talker and don't know it...like that seinfield episode :)
[09:21] <Gnea> shadeslayer: hrm, in MS, does it give the boost option or does it all 'just work' like normal?
[09:22] <shadeslayer> Gnea: just work
[09:22] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: got disconnected.  looks like i don't have this notification system or it's turned off.  is there settings somewhere i can look at?
[09:22] <shadeslayer> Gnea: http://imagebin.org/47900
[09:22] <AdvoWork> Is it possible to fully rename a login user account on ubuntu? I cant find much on it
[09:22] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: try lowering you brightness or volume
[09:22] <Gnea> shadeslayer: shadeslayer nice. it's not in the switches tab?
[09:22] <aspidites> shadeslayer: have you tried the console alsamixer?
[09:23] <shadeslayer> Gnea: no :)
[09:23] <aspidites> or just the gnome-alsamixer?
[09:23] <Gnea> ...
[09:23] <shadeslayer> aspidites: yes
[09:23] <aspidites> btw, the knew dust theme for ubuntu is pretty sharp
[09:23] <shadeslayer> yeah
[09:23] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: nothing
[09:24]  * DASPRiD purrs at aspidites
[09:24] <aspidites> new*
[09:24] <g00dspeed> hello)
[09:25] <aspidites> well, you could always just yell really loud into the mic to produce normal levels
[09:25] <majlap> pulseaudio running but not getting sound in jaunty
[09:25] <aspidites> :)
[09:25] <etsm> i'm a beginner in linux platform. I have installed amp in ubuntu 9.04 but php and apache does not work. How do i solve this?
[09:25] <aspidites> sorry, i make stupid jokes when i'm frustrated and can't offer any useful advice
[09:25] <g00dspeed> Who can help with Wine and Visual Studio?
[09:26] <DawnLight> dear friends,
[09:26] <aspidites> g00dspeed: do you *need* visual studio? better question: *why* do you need visuaal studio?
[09:26] <karol^> hi, my dual screen stopped working after recent update (jaunty intel 965) it's 2x 1920x1200, I cannot get it back on, can anyone help?
[09:26] <majlap> HELP got pulseaudio running but not getting sound in jaunty
[09:26] <Name141> Hello, I have had a problem since Intrepid with ubuntu.   My NIC doesn't seem to want to work after Hardy properly.  The router light just flashes where it is hooked up , any ideas on what to do?  I tried downloading the Intel linux drivers, but it doesn't do any good.  If you want, you can read up at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22333666-Networking-Linux-support-Networking-error , any ideas on what to do next?
[09:27] <Name141> and for the record this also happens in Fedora10
[09:27] <aspidites> g00dspeed: i'm only asking because i doubt there is anyone here who can help you with wine. #winehq would be a better option for that
[09:27] <DASPRiD> karol^, using nvidia or ati?
[09:27] <DASPRiD> karol^, and, hi ;)
[09:27] <karol^> hi, intel 965
[09:27] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: found a forum post.  looks like notify-osd wasn't even installed.  shouldn't that have happened when i upgraded the OS?
[09:27] <jtan325_> karol^: i JUST got dual-screen working again tonight.
[09:27] <DASPRiD> karol^, whoops, didn't read that
[09:27] <g00dspeed> aspidites ok, thanx
[09:27] <karol^> there was some update defaulting virtual resolution to 2048
[09:27] <DawnLight> dear friends, in jaunty, the libpam-smbpass isn't doing what it is supposed to. OR i don't understand what its supposed to. does installing it mean that i don't have to run smbpasswd <user> on all my users?
[09:27] <axion> nvm the problem is in using the official ppd file... should just install the generic postscript 2 ppd
[09:28] <jtan325_> karol^: what i had to do was use xrandr to figure out the device name (as dictated by the driver)
[09:28] <jtan325_> then set up my xorg.conf appropriate
[09:28] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: yes it should have installed by default
[09:28] <karol^> jtan325_: I get an error from xandr that my resolution cannot be more than 2048
[09:29] <jtan325_> karol^: this really helped me. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[09:29] <karol^> jtan325_: is yours >2048?
[09:29] <aspidites> well guys/gals, i think i'm finally headed to bed
[09:29] <jtan325_> karol^: yes, it's two 1680x1050 monitors.
[09:29] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: i updated through the update manager rather than a fresh CD install.  i wonder if there was a problem with it.
[09:29] <DASPRiD> karol^, i'm running two 2560x1600, but well, nvidia not intel
[09:29] <stjepan> I can't change wallpapers, themes, icons, anything without relogging in or rebooting. Any idea what may be wrong? :(
[09:30] <stjepan> ( I'm using gnome on Jaunty )
[09:30] <aspidites> stjepan: nautilus daemon maybe malfunctioning?
[09:30] <stjepan> how to fix it?
[09:30] <aspidites> or gnome-setting-daemon
[09:30] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: maybe tha package was not downloaded
[09:30] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: !info notify-osd
[09:31] <stjepan> aspidites: looks like gnome-settings-daemon is running
[09:31] <shadeslayer> !info notify-osd
[09:31] <aspidites> stjepan: thats the part i don't know... try running from command line to see what error is returned if anny
[09:31] <robin0800> aspidites: Perhaps the X server is crashing?
[09:31] <eNons3nse> makes me wonder what else i'm missing
[09:31] <aspidites> robin0800: if that were the case, gnome wouldn't run at all
[09:31] <stjepan> aspidites: no errors :-/
[09:31] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: you could manually install that package ;)
[09:32] <stjepan> and still doesn't work
[09:32] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: i just did
[09:32] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: works now?
[09:32] <aspidites> stjepan: what if you log into safe mode and run gnome manually?
[09:32] <AdvoWork> can i use this command to rename a login account? usermod -l login-name old-name
[09:32] <shadeslayer> that is exactly the reason i use a update CD ;)
[09:32] <aspidites> stjepan: that way you can monitor output for anything strange
[09:33] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: no.  do i need to restart my WM?
[09:33] <stjepan> I'll try
[09:33] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: yeah
[09:33] <aspidites> stjepan: don'tremember the command though. gnome or gnome-session i think.
[09:33] <petrolman> Hi, my terminal is set to charset utf-8 by default. When connecting to a server which charset is set to ISO-8859-15 I cant see the german umlauts. I do have to set my terminal to ISO-8859-15. Why? I thought utf-8 can interpret all chars?
[09:34] <aspidites> petrolman: you need a unicode capable terminal
[09:34] <Phantom784> i installed ubuntu 9.04 on my eee pc 701, restarted it once, and now it's starting in low graphics mode.  i tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and it didn't help.  any ideas?
[09:34] <aspidites> petrolman: off the top of my head, that includes urxvt, roxterm, sakura, and a couple of others. not sure if gnome-terminal is unicode.
[09:34] <shadeslayer> g00dspeed: seen to much of " The Rock " lately?? ;)
[09:35] <aspidites> petrolman: also make sure your locale is set correctly
[09:35] <aspidites> !locale
[09:35] <g00dspeed> g00dspeed yea)
[09:35] <g00dspeed> shadeslayer yes)
[09:35] <petrolman> ok, thanks aspidites
[09:35] <aspidites> bita
[09:35] <aspidites> (don't know now to spell that, sorry, lol )
[09:36] <g00dspeed> aspidites: all are dead in #winehq
[09:36] <jtan325_> aspidites: check out urxvt for unicode support
[09:36] <aspidites> jtan325_: i use it already, and already recommended it :)
[09:36] <aspidites> jtan325_: actualy, i'm using it rigt now 보찌?
[09:36] <aspidites> :)
[09:37] <azlon> !usb
[09:38] <shadeslayer> hmm so quiet,i can hear the quits and joins ;)
[09:38] <aspidites> yeah. i meant to quit about half an hour ago :\
[09:38] <shadeslayer> aspidites: lag?? :P
[09:38] <paolo> Hi guys! I'm launching epiphany from remote with "ssh -X server epiphany", but it the forms it doesn't show the known fields it shows when run locally. Is this a bug?
[09:39] <aspidites> shadeslayer: you can call it that :). every time i get ready to leave i see someone else i can help. or try to help :\
[09:39] <shadeslayer> !epiphany
[09:39] <aspidites> !ssh
[09:39] <shadeslayer> aspidites: hehe
[09:40] <aspidites> ok, i'm gone for real this time
[09:40] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: it's installed now.  but it's still not working.
[09:40] <aspidites> unless...3....2....1...ok, bye all
[09:40] <g00dspeed> is there any Ubuntu RU irc?
[09:40] <shadeslayer> if not ill ask the ops to kick you :P
[09:40] <aspidites> shadeslayer: lol ok, ok
[09:40] <shadeslayer> !ru
[09:40] <laba> hi
[09:41] <g00dspeed> thnx
[09:41] <hmw> paolo: "run locally"? uhm. Do you want your local prefs working in the remote session or do you mean the "local" settings on the remote server?
[09:41] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: can you see the daemon in sys monitor?
[09:41] <laba> using the cursor keys in insert mode in vi always breaks out to the command mode... how can I prevent?
[09:42] <paolo> hmw, I want epiphany have access to its stored passwords when run remotely.
[09:42] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: yeah.  says it's sleeping.
[09:42] <hmw> laba: install vim - use synaptics and look at the descriptions for the right package
[09:42] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: are you on a laptop or desktop?
[09:42] <eNons3nse> desktop
[09:42] <DawnLight> can someone take a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+question/70002 ?
[09:42] <paolo> everything is ok when running epiphany remotely with ssh, exectp password and other form fields access
[09:43] <karol^> anyone knows how to force > 2048 resolution on intel 965 after recent update?
[09:43] <hmw> paolo: as i understand it, the program runs on the server, but is displayed on the local computer, so it *should* be able to access the settings stored on the machin it acutally runs on. strange...
[09:43] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: ok get someone to im you on pidgin
[09:44] <shadeslayer> karol^: maybe editing xorg.conf,not sure about it tho
[09:44] <connex> what is wrong here: while [ sudo kill -USR1 16930 > stat.txt ] ; do sleep 5; done;
[09:44] <karol^> shadeslayer: yes but edit how, I already added  Virtual 3840 1200, it has no effect
[09:45] <jtan325_> connex: should it be >> instead of > ?
[09:45] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: haha.  i'm trying, but it's almost 4am
[09:45] <jtan325_> connex: nvm
[09:45] <paolo> hmw, you can run every guy program remotely if you have ssh server installed on the server (which is not the default) with "ssh -X server program" from the client, and everything is fine, execpt access to personal data
[09:45] <stjepan> I'm back.... interestingly, I can change backgrounds and themes after killing and restarting nautilus, but I still can't change icons
[09:45] <connex> while  sudo kill -USR1 16930 > stat.txt  ; do sleep 5; done; should be no [ ]
[09:45] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: lol,how about playing a mp3
[09:46] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: you could use the IRC too,with pidgin
[09:46] <hmw> paolo: maybe using a program remotely gets the program run in a different user context?
[09:47] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: i know.  i just don't have this room set up
[09:47] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: nothing happens with mp3s
[09:47] <MilkyWhite> !kjournald
[09:47] <hmw> paolo: should be easy to check: can you store a new password in remote-epiphany?
[09:48] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: nothing in the top right corner?? like new notification showing which song plays
[09:48] <eNons3nse> no
[09:49] <lundh> I have a software raid set up from before and I want to install ubuntu on it but the installer seems to detect iw wrong. any idea why?
[09:49] <eNons3nse> is compiz going to mess it up?  do i need to turn it off?
[09:49] <a750mhzslinky> Hello, I can't get vlc to bind to udp port 1022 and I have tried 'sudo vlc-wrapper' , authbind and messing with kernel capabilities with no luck, anyone have a clue what is blocking vlc from binding to that port?
[09:49] <shadeslayer> no it works fine/better with compiz
[09:50] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: can you change the song with a keybinding?
[09:51] <eNons3nse> what is the key?
[09:51] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: i have a multi media bar at the top
[09:52]  * shadeslayer listens to Bryan adams
[09:52] <eNons3nse> i have one in my AWN bar.  it doesn't do it.  also doesn't show anything when i change it by right clicking on the notification panel icon.
[09:53] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: i mean like meta+arrow key
[09:54] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: check the keyboard shortcuts
[09:54] <World_Citizen09> hi can someone help me with setting email size while receiving mails in evolution please
[09:54] <eNons3nse> hmmm.  it may be working now
[09:54] <walli1> hi,what do you all know about virtual midi keyboard
[09:56] <shadeslayer> walli1: whats that ?? :)
[09:56] <iBurger> Hi all. I think I just did a system upgrade, but gnome broke. 8.04. I'm gonna revert to my previous installation and stop automatic upgrades. >> am I stupid :) ?
[09:56] <World_Citizen09> can some one help me in setting up evolution email receiving size
[09:57] <walli1> MUSICK
[09:57] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: thanks
[09:57] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: no problem
[09:57] <eNons3nse> i've been having more problems since the upgrade as well.
[09:58] <eNons3nse> my sound drops out sometimes.  it wont come back till i restart the computer.  that's never happened before.
[09:58] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: such as??
[09:58] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: seen the wiki?
[09:58] <shadeslayer> !sound > eNons3nse
[09:58] <eNons3nse> no
[10:00] <michael_> i just installed ubuntu and now my harddrives are locked
[10:00] <shadeslayer> michael_: locked?
[10:00] <michael_> and i tried all my passwords, nothing works :(
[10:00] <shadeslayer> michael_: bios lock?
[10:01] <michael_> shadeslayer, as soon as i boot up, yes... i can access the bios.. it's odd..
[10:01] <michael_> shadeslayer, i have a dual boot with xp
[10:01] <shadeslayer> michael_: can you change the passworrds?
[10:01] <shadeslayer> *passwords
[10:01] <ziroday> michael_: what do you mean by your hard drives are locked?
[10:01] <michael_> shadeslayer, i can access the one xp harddrive, from bios i changed the password.. but then there is ANOTHER password (exact same screen, different hard drive (i'm assuming that's the ubuntu one)
[10:02] <michael_> shadeslayer, after xp install there was no password, only after ubuntu install
[10:02] <shadeslayer> weird....
[10:02] <michael_> ziroday, after i startup computer, nothing loads but a white screen and black text, asking for a password
[10:03] <ziroday> michael_: did you encrypt your hard drives when installing?
[10:03] <shadeslayer> ziroday: bios lock
[10:03] <michael_> ziroday, gives me harddrive 'serial' number, and says it's locked
[10:03] <Cyclops> test
[10:03] <shadeslayer> or that
[10:03] <michael_> ziroday, not that i remember, but i tried the only password i put in
[10:04] <ziroday> michael_: err right, well you can reset your bios by pulling out the battery on the CMOS. Anyway this isn't an ubuntu problem and this is probably not the best place to ask :)
[10:04] <Cyclops> This is my first time using IRC chat, really good ah!
[10:04] <michael_> ziroday, it only happened after installing ubuntu (dual boot with xp!)
[10:04] <shadeslayer> ziroday: hehe thats going to take some time :P
[10:04] <michael_> ziroday, there's no base 'admin' hard disk password?
[10:05] <michael_> ziroday, for ubuntu?
[10:05] <dingdongding> anyone have soundcard problem after upgraded to jaunty with compaq presario CQ40?
[10:05] <ziroday> michael_: how did you install ubuntu? And the base 'admin' password is you're users password
[10:05] <michael_> anyone know if there's a 'base' admin password for harddisk when installing ubuntu?
[10:05] <duryodhan> michael_: no
[10:05] <michael_> ziroday, tried it.  installed it after xp by clicking 'install' on the live cd
[10:06] <ziroday> michael_: wait, so you installed it _in_ XP, or by rebooting _into_ the livecd?
[10:06] <duryodhan> ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[10:06] <shadeslayer> duryodhan: /
[10:07] <michael_> ziroday, by rebooting into live cd
[10:07] <ziroday> michael_: i.e. did you use wubi, or a real ubuntu install?
[10:07] <Cyclops> are you chinese?
[10:07] <michael_> ziroday, real
[10:07] <ziroday> michael_: okay, well you can't have set a hard drive password with the livecd, that option is only on the alternate one. Can you take a picture of the error and upload it somewhere?
[10:07] <MidnightDevil> hello fellas :)
[10:07] <ziroday> !imagebin | michael_ such as here
[10:07] <ziroday> !cn | Cyclops
[10:08] <lundh> I installed ubuntu without a swap parition. how do I add it later on?
[10:08] <ziroday> lundh: do you have space on your hard drive still?
[10:08] <lundh> yes
[10:08] <Cyclops> ÌìÄÄÃ»ÏëÕâÀï¿ÉÒÔÓÃÖÐÎÄ°¡
[10:08] <ziroday> lundh: okay, well set the space to swap, add it to /etc/fstab and reboot or do swapon -a
[10:08] <lundh> thanks
[10:08] <michael_> ziroday, negative, i can't even get onto the machine ;)  only option i have is to boot the xp disk and try it all again!
[10:08] <ziroday> Cyclops: english _only_
[10:08] <lundh> that was easy :)
[10:09] <ziroday> lundh: if you're not sure about anything feel free to ask :)
[10:09] <ziroday> michael_: so you can get into windows?
[10:09] <michael_> ziroday, there are two hardisks, the one i set the password for via the bios... the second i don't know how to get into
[10:09] <michael_> ziroday, actually no... it says "no bootable drive"  but i can boot from cd
[10:09] <qiyong> i'm making a pkg. in order to install /usr/bin/foo, i need to have ./BUILD/usr/bin/foo and run dpkg -b ./BUILD ?
[10:09] <qiyong> i'm making a pkg. in order to install /usr/bin/foo, i need to have ./BUILD/usr/bin/foo and run dpkg -b ./BUILD ?
[10:09] <lundh> ziroday: thanks, I think that was answer enough :)
[10:09] <michael_> ziroday, i must have made a mistake when installing ubuntu
[10:09] <ziroday> michael_: okay, and this leads us all back to it being a bios fault :)
[10:10] <dingdongding>  anyone have soundcard problem after upgraded to jaunty with compaq presario CQ40?
[10:10] <michael_> ziroday, it didn't give me an option to partition the disks with the slider thingy (know what i mean)
[10:10] <ziroday> michael_: ubuntu does _not_ have that option to "lock" your hard drive unless you are using the alternate cd and that is via encryption
[10:10] <michael_> ziroday, so i chose the "use largest unused space thing"
[10:10] <ziroday> michael_: mmhm
[10:10] <michael_> ziroday, but the lock only happened after ubuntu install O_o  lol
[10:10] <ziroday> qiyong: ask in #ubuntu-motu
[10:10] <Cyclops> My English is very poor, Is there any IRC channel Chinese ah?
[10:10] <ziroday> !cn | Cyclops
[10:10] <lundh> while on the subject, what kind of encryption is used on the aternative cd?
[10:11] <ziroday> Cyclops: xie /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:11] <ziroday> lundh: strong :)
[10:11] <lundh> ziroday: what system is used?
[10:11] <ziroday> lundh: err I used to know this, let me try dig it up
[10:12] <ziroday> lundh: LUKS with an encrypted LVM partition
[10:12] <shadeslayer> lundh: encryption which the FBI uses ;)
[10:13] <lundh> ok, thanks :)
[10:13] <ziroday> lundh: encryption wise I have a feeling its 256bit RSA but I am very likely to be wrong
[10:13] <shadeslayer> !encrypt
[10:13] <shadeslayer> !encryptfd
[10:14] <shadeslayer> !encrypt-fs
[10:14] <lundh> eek, the installation failed, have to fix it :/
[10:14] <ziroday> !msgthebot > shadeslayer
[10:14] <shadeslayer> ziroday: started it already ;)
[10:14] <chocobanana> Hi everyone!!!
[10:15] <shadeslayer> !hi | chocobanana
[10:15] <blue-frog> lundh: ecryptfs is used in Jaunty (but enabled by default yet)
[10:15] <chocobanana> shadeslayer: thanks :)
[10:17] <shadeslayer> lundh: if your nick is read in hindi it would be considered abusive ;)
[10:19] <Mud|afk> hi guys
[10:19] <Mud|afk> who can help me with ufw ?
[10:19] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: yes?
[10:19] <Mud|afk> I want to redirect port 80 traffic to a proxy
[10:19] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: i know the absoulte basics through gufw :)
[10:19] <chocobanana> I have this weird thing going on with 9.04. Whenever I start my computer, networkmanager supposedly connects to my wireless network. However, it won't be able to load any webpages. If access the router configuration page, it goes to a totally different router configuration page, unknown to me. If I fire up the network manager list again and click my network, then it reconnects and it works. If I repeat this, it will take me to the unknown
[10:20] <Mud|afk> when I do this command : ufw allow proto udp <IP_ADDRESS> port 80 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 8080
[10:20] <Mud|afk> its gives a error
[10:20] <chocobanana> sorry for the long post
[10:20] <Mud|afk> error404notfound: Wrong number of arguments
[10:20] <shadeslayer> tried the man pages?
[10:20] <Mud|afk> yes
[10:21] <Mechdave> chocobanana, do you happen to have 2 different networks with the same ESSID?
[10:21] <ziroday> chocobanana: try remove all the settings in "Edit Connections" and then restart and try again
[10:21] <linny> anyone ever had problems with braseo not fixating disks it seems only to happen with cds as far as i can tell the cds burnt ok its just this 'fixating' what does fixating mean anyways ?
[10:21] <pulzer> Hello. I been dualbooting vista as my "backup" for certain programs that wouldnt smoothly with Wine, but now thinking of replacing Vista with Windows7RC. I am guessing Win7 install will place its own boot manager instead of grub. Anyone know if guides online for getting grub back with Vista-dual works for Win7 too?
[10:22] <chocobanana> Mechdave: I thought about that and no, I haven't 2 SSIDs. The unknown router configuration page is also from a router I do not own
[10:22] <chocobanana> ziroday: already tried that.... :(
[10:22] <shadeslayer> !grub > pulzer
[10:22] <ziroday> chocobanana: well there goes my idea sorry :)
[10:22] <chocobanana> ziroday: thanks anyway!:)
[10:22] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: no idea
[10:22] <umar> how can i use keyboard to move my mouse. i am tired of using my mouse!
[10:23] <pulzer> sorry for being a cunt but did you even read my question shadeslayer?
[10:23] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: try googling
[10:23] <Mechdave> chocobanana, that is what made me think someone could have the same SSID as you have configured, what happens if you change your SSID to something completly different
[10:23] <shadeslayer> pulzer: yes,if you carefully read the wiki your question will be answered
[10:23] <Drikan> hello all Looking for some one familiar with Gnome
[10:23] <Drikan> and the x11 system
[10:24] <linny> Drikan: your in the right place ask your question
[10:24] <shadeslayer> Drikan: just ask :)
[10:24] <chillitom> or irc.gnome.org might be better
[10:24] <Mud|afk> shadeslayer already done :s
[10:24] <shadeslayer> ikonia: thanks
[10:24] <chocobanana> Mechdave: haven't tried that yet but that also occured to me... The thing is that I have various computers around, including another machine running 9.04 w/ wireless without any issues whatsoever...
[10:25] <adac> Currently running ubuntu from usb stick. Unfortunately programs hang from time to time. Is this because of the usb2.0 device or can I do something to speed things up?
[10:25] <Drikan> ok in win xp and an old copy of redhat 7.3 my x enviorment looked just fine but in ubuntu 1/2 of the screen looks as thow i have a memory issue
[10:25] <shadeslayer> adac: probably the stick,low read write speeds
[10:26] <Drikan> the colors dont quite display correct ly on the lower 1/2 of the screen the video card i have is a silicon motion
[10:26] <chocobanana> Mechdave: and it only started happening yesterday. I've been running 9.04 since the RC without any wireless issues...
[10:26] <Drikan> now im pretty sure the red hat was using a basic generic driver for it
[10:27] <Mechdave> chocobanana, that is strange, how many wireless networks does the network applet show you?
[10:27] <michael_> AH!  i royally messed up my system while installing ubuntu... nothing i run can recognize my disks... :(  anyone know what irc channel i should go to for help?
[10:27] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall too?
[10:27] <michael_> ie - im in the live ubuntu cd again, and the partitioner doesn't see anything
[10:28] <Drikan> but i think ubuntu is using the wrong driver for my video card
[10:28] <Drikan> its running on an old Gateway laptop solo1150
[10:28] <shadeslayer> michael_: the partition table got corrupted maybe,i had the same problem,had to make a new table
[10:28] <chocobanana> Mechdave: around 10, including 2 or 3 unprotected. I suspect that for some reason it connects to one of the unprotected networks and it makes the connection under mine's name...
[10:29] <Mechdave> chocobanana, do you have security on yours?
[10:29] <michael_> shadeslayer, i can't even get there.. nothing is showing and no options are clickable
[10:29] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: sudo ufw allow proto tcp from <IP_ADDRESS> to any port 22
[10:29] <chocobanana> Mechdave: yes
[10:29] <Mechdave> michael_, if you go into BIOS and select autodetect hard drives does it show you the ones installed?
[10:29] <Mud|afk> hmm
[10:29] <shadeslayer> michael_: um can you boot the live cd?
[10:30] <michael_> shadeslayer, yes
[10:30] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: from here https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
[10:30] <Drikan> so how do i see what x11 is using and how do i see a list of like drivers that i can switch X11 to
[10:30] <Drikan> ?
[10:30] <Mud|afk> I am reading now shadeslayer that ufw is only for incomming traffic
[10:30] <Mechdave> chocobanana, I have never heard that happening before
[10:30] <michael_> Mechdave, im trying to run the onboard diagnostics now... i didn't see autodetect but i'll try it
[10:30] <Mud|afk> I want to redirect traffic :o
[10:30] <shadeslayer> michael_: so the HD is not even detected as in live cd shows no HD's ?
[10:30] <Drikan> ive used linux before but its been a few years
[10:30] <michael_> Mechdave, but in the diagnostics it already said "no hard drives detected" :( :(
[10:30] <michael_> shadeslayer, exactly :(
[10:31] <chocobanana> Mechdave: oh wait... I'm looking at my resolv.conf file and it's directing to a specific domain name...
[10:31] <Lovis> hey, i'm looking for a good open source virtualising application. can someone give me a hint which one i should use?
[10:31] <shadeslayer> michael_: loose cable,etc?
[10:31] <adac> shadeslayer, hmm stick (sandisk) should be quite fast... Can i check somehow the usb device if it is really 2.0?
[10:31] <michael_> shadeslayer, laptop
[10:31] <rikkardo> anyone knows why dosbox doesnt work properly wigth 9.04?
[10:31] <Mechdave> shadeslayer, do you know if Ubuntu needs the BIOS to detect the disks even though it doesn't use it for acces?
[10:31] <chocobanana> Mechdave: let me check what's on the other 9.04 machine....
[10:31] <shadeslayer> adac: lsusb might show it
[10:31] <michael_> Mechdave, it told me i need a dell tech support.. blah
[10:31] <djiezes> Lovis: virtualizing OS's? Virtualbox might be the thing for you, there's an opensource edition in the ubuntu repositories.
[10:32] <michael_> shadeslayer, what could i have done wrong in the ubuntu install?
[10:32] <Lovis> thx djiezes
[10:32] <Mud|afk> shadeslayer: gonna try it with iptables (again :< )
[10:32] <shadeslayer> michael_: no idea,you did it :P
[10:32] <adac> shadeslayer, http://pastebin.com/m6d7932e1
[10:32] <Mud|afk> iptables..prrrrr
[10:32] <Mechdave> chocobanana, isn't the resolv.conf re written every time a new connection is made?
[10:32] <Mud|afk> brrr*
[10:32] <adac> seems to be 2.0
[10:32] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: didnt the wiki help?
[10:32] <Mechdave> michael_, Uh-Oh
[10:32] <shadeslayer> Mechdave: no idea
[10:32] <chocobanana> Mechdave: I believe so
[10:33] <Mud|afk> no shadeslayer, I want to redirect traffic, so ufw doesnt suite my situation
[10:33] <chocobanana> Mechdave: I'm gonna do some tinkering and I'll be right back
[10:33] <Mechdave> michael_, Maybe try the BIOS autodetect then, fingers crossed
[10:33] <shadeslayer> adac: yep 2.0
[10:33] <Mechdave> chocobanana, right you are :)
[10:33] <Insectoid> Trying to install binary ATI drivers using the envyng program, it throws a long python traceback which I can pastebin.  This makes me very very sad.
[10:33] <michael_> Mechdave, well i installed windows, it worked fine... then loaded the live cd, installed ubuntu, then this happened
[10:33] <Niek> hi, I made a audio disk (with just one song on it) a few weeks ago, I unchecked the "Close after writing" thingey on the disk, and I want to add a audio file to it (mp3, but brasero converts that into "cd format"). How do i do that ? I only get options like "copy disk" etc
[10:34] <adac> shadeslayer, hmmm: http://pastebin.com/m15ad36f8 well does the bus tell the usb slot?
[10:34] <blizzkid> what's the correct syntax to run apg and pipe it's output as an argument to a php script?
[10:34] <shadeslayer> usb slot?
[10:35] <adac> shadeslayer, well is Bus 001 the usb slot itself
[10:35] <adac> what is device 004 then?
[10:35] <shadeslayer> adac: HD's have read write speeds of 50 Mbps,flash disks have 15-20 mbps thus they are quite slow
[10:35] <Mechdave> Niek, if you write the disk as you would a blank, I think brasero will find out it is a non closed disk and then change the burning accordingly
[10:35] <adac> shadeslayer, I see!
[10:36] <Niek> Mechdave: well, it doesn't. I say "new audio project", drag my music file into it, and i say "burn" and then it says I didn't insert any recordable disks
[10:36] <shadeslayer> adac: i have such ports myself,they are internal slots,cannot be used
[10:36] <Drikan> so dose any one have any ideas?
[10:37] <shadeslayer> adac: http://pastebin.com/d5cc5193b
[10:37] <michael_> Mechdave, where would that be..?  i can't seem to find it
[10:37] <adac> shadeslayer, ok thx!
[10:37] <shadeslayer> adac: better install to HD ;)
[10:38] <adac> shadeslayer, :P
[10:38] <adac> shadeslayer, so even a external usb hd would be better?
[10:39] <shadeslayer> adac: depends,if it can utilize the full potential of the port then maybe yes
[10:39] <adac> shadeslayer, definitely worth a try then :)
[10:39] <Ada2358> Ponders /ignoring shadelayer, due to system beeps on the ada hilight...
[10:39] <shadeslayer> adac: yeah,up to you,
[10:39] <Drikan> linny: so where do i change my video drivers in X win?
[10:40] <Mechdave> michael_, The auto detect usually is in the BIOS settings (usually Del whilst booting to access) and on your comp I am not sure where you would find the auto detect, have a browse around but don't save any configurations
[10:40] <shadeslayer> Ada2358: remove it then ;)
[10:40] <adac> shadeslayer, aye!
[10:40] <Ada2358> I might just part ubuntu
[10:40] <shadeslayer> Ada2358: too crowded/
[10:40] <Ada2358> :P, the ada highlight is what I highlight on elsewhere
[10:40] <Mechdave> michael_, which model do you have?
[10:41] <ikonia> Ada2358: don't add to the channel noise with your pondering , your irc client can be configured to not beep
[10:41] <shadeslayer> Ada2358: im going in 2 min
[10:41] <Ada2358> Sorry about that, I'll duck out for now
[10:42] <michael_> Mechdave, inspiron 6400
[10:44] <Drikan> so can some one inform me where to change my video driver?
[10:46] <zetheroo> hi there ... would anyone like to take a really quick Linux survey for me? I run the FSRC wordpress blog and wanted to post a series of feedback from Linux or non-Linux users ....
[10:46] <zfmf> hi, how can i install khtml2png2? can i install this with apt-get when yess wich packgage?
[10:46] <Drikan> sigh
[10:47] <OzTrOuT> hi all .. :)
[10:47] <Drikan> hi
[10:47] <lundh> this is really annoying. I get "no block devices found" when I try to install ubuntu
[10:47] <rumpel2> zfmf, try "aptitude search khtlm | grep png"  or something like that
[10:47] <OzTrOuT> hi Drikan ... how are you doing .. ?
[10:47] <Ada2358> Drikan: If its Nvidia this could help? http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=455251
[10:48] <Mechdave> Niek, I am not sure where to go from here, unless it is in recent projects where you need to go. I don't know brasero well enough
[10:48] <Drikan> its not nvidia is a silicon motion chip
[10:48] <lundh> the installer finds the devices but when I try to boot the installed ubuntu everything fails
[10:48] <Ada2358> Got nothing...
[10:49] <Ada2358> can you get root consol?
[10:49] <Gnea> Drikan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:49] <Gnea> !root
[10:49] <Ada2358> Gnea Sorry I ment in grub
[10:49] <OzTrOuT> bye ... :)
[10:49] <Drikan> Gnea: just a min ill try that
[10:50] <Gnea> Ada2358: it helps to be specific :)
[10:50] <Mechdave> michael_, here is the DELL page for accessing the BIOS --> http://supportapj.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/document?c=au&dl=true&docid=36A6D75A79524337AC21BE95E3FB44C5&journalid=692733A4FF5D32BEE040AE0AB5E123CC&l=en&s=gen
[10:50] <jondgls> can anyone direct me to a good resource for updating my repositories in Jaunty including details of fixing public keys?
[10:50] <michael_> Mechdave, thank you
[10:50] <Ada2358> No I'm glad I wasnt I forgot about the !root command :P
[10:51] <Gnea> jondgls: what's wrong with your public keys?
[10:51] <Mechdave> michael_, no worries
[10:51] <shashwatpns> does anyon e recommend xubuntu for my 256 ram computer????
[10:51] <jondgls> Gnea: When add sources to my repo list I get errors with the public keys
[10:51] <Ada2358> apt-get update does an update, but I obviously have not idea what your talking about with keys
[10:52] <Ada2358> xubuntu erm 6. something?
[10:52] <koshari> shashwatpns pesonally i would prefer flux
[10:52] <shashwatpns> why???
[10:52] <Gnea> jondgls: which sources?
[10:52] <Drikan> Gnea: ok after that i sapose i have to restart x11?
[10:52] <shashwatpns> is fluxbuntu fast???
[10:52] <Gnea> koshari: I would flush flux down the toilet
[10:53] <Ada2358> I didnt think so
[10:53] <nvrpunk> I am trying to connect to a vpn using the nm-app but it doesn't seem to be doing anything after I configured it
[10:53] <jondgls> Gnea: Third party sources like openoffice, pidgin etc..
[10:53] <Gnea> Drikan: yes
[10:53] <nvrpunk> clicking connect seems to do nothing
[10:53] <Mechdave> shashwatpns, can you pastebin your cpu and hard drive space and ram please
[10:53] <Gnea> jondgls: okay, but what did you put in, exactly?
[10:53] <Gnea> jondgls: IOW, what deb line(s) did you use?
[10:53] <Drikan> brb
[10:54] <Gnea> shashwatpns_: xubuntu should be fine for your needs. if it's not, you could also try elivecd or ozos
[10:54] <shashwatpns_> do they run ubuntu apps??
[10:55] <jondgls> Gnea: Sure one sec and i'll tell you...
[10:55] <Gnea> if they didn't run ubuntu apps, then I wouldn't be suggesting them :)
[10:56] <shashwatpns_> who would you recommend the most
[10:56] <nvrpunk> anyone able to help me with setting up a vpn in jaunty?
[10:56] <Gnea> it depends on your needs and what you want to do
[10:56] <Gnea> nvrpunk: any preference on protocol?
[10:56] <shashwatpns_> i surf the most and listen some music
[10:57] <nvrpunk> Gnea, pptp
[10:57] <gast> hz
[10:57] <Gnea> shashwatpns_: xubuntu or elivecd should be good enough
[10:57] <gast> fuck you
[10:57] <Mechdave> michael_, any joy
[10:57] <nvrpunk> :/
[10:57] <Mechdave> ?
[10:57] <shashwatpns_> k thanks gnea
[10:57] <Gnea> !language | gast
[10:57] <gast> mother fuck you
[10:58] <DJones> !ops | gast
[10:58] <Gnea> !attitude | gast
[10:58] <gast> du mich auch
[10:59] <Gnea> nvrpunk: are you planning on using the ubuntu system as the main system or using a ms-based server to do that?
[11:00] <Gnea> ...
[11:00] <lundh> there seems to be a bug in the 9.04 installer. When I install ubuntu on a disk that also includes software raid i get no block devide found when I try to boot from it. Any idea how I can solve that?
[11:00] <koshari> shashwatpns i just think flux is a lot easier to configure than xfce,
[11:01] <demon_> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-2.png i have this problem on ubuntu too
[11:01] <koshari> lundh i will guess that once its installed you will need to update initfs
[11:01] <zetheroo>  hi there ... would anyone like to take a really quick Linux survey for me? I run the FSRC wordpress blog and wanted to post a series of feedback from Linux or non-Linux users ....
[11:02] <Gnea> koshari: fluxbuntu is slow to keep up with the times
[11:02] <lundh> koshari: how?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:02] <Gnea> i sure wouldn't recommend it for a stable environment, at least nothing newer than 7.10 or 8.04
[11:02] <Gnea> hey hey hey
[11:03] <jondgls> Gnea: ok so I just added the repo as seen here http://paste.ubuntu.com/164817/ and I recieved the error as seen here http://paste.ubuntu.com/164818/
[11:03] <Drikan> gnea: no sorry that did nore resolve the issue but i am also in gnome now
[11:04] <Gnea> Drikan: hrm... so it partially fixed it?
[11:05] <Drikan> no still 1/2 the screen look odd it seems like its not properly utlizing the memory
[11:05] <Drikan> it only has 4 mb
[11:05] <Gnea> o.O
[11:05] <Drikan> MB
[11:06] <Gnea> then yeah, you're going to get sub-optimal video performance - what res are you at?
[11:06] <Drikan> :)
[11:06] <Drikan> 800x 600
[11:06] <Gnea> how does it work at 640x480?
[11:06] <Drikan> i dont have the option to change rez or color depth
[11:06] <Gnea> because 4MB is not going to power 800x600 very well at all, no matter what driver you use
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: should do, can't see why not
[11:07] <Gnea> Drikan: can you lspci | grep VGA?
[11:07] <Drikan> one sec
[11:07] <azlon1> how can I move items on my panels? I have some icons and menus I want to move but when I click and drag it executes them
[11:07] <Gnea> jondgls: still looking...
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: not full compiz sorta deal but you should be able to get the display res at 800x600 easy
[11:08] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: 16-bit maybe, 8-bit for sure... 24-bit? pshaw... :)
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> no not 24bit :)
[11:08] <Dreamglider> i have an old FUjitsu Siemens liteline with 4Mb video ram running fine at 800x600 gnome (tho it's not super fast let me tell you that :P )
[11:09] <jrib> azlon1: middle click
[11:09] <Drikan> Gnea: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Motion, Inc. SM720 Lynx3DM (rev b1)
[11:09] <Adu3_linux> help me kadu is fairwalled
[11:09] <azlon1> jrib: awesome thanks!
[11:10] <professor_> hi
[11:10] <galtran> hi all
[11:10] <professor_> any recommendations on the best way to fix up music collection ID tags?
[11:10] <professor_> I am using Amarok - fantastic app btw
[11:10] <Gnea> Drikan: what driver are you using?
[11:10] <galtran> i had a problem with installation of Nvidia drivers
[11:10] <Adu3_linux> hi can you help me
[11:10] <shashwatpns> tpns
[11:10] <galtran> when i install it and rebooted
[11:11] <CyberLife> wat wiv
[11:11] <galtran> there is no standart ubuntu login screen
[11:11] <djiezes> professor_: I like EasyTag for mass-tagging mp3's, and Picard Tagger for auto-finding full albums.
[11:11] <Drikan> Gena: what ever Ubuntu installed
[11:11] <professor_> *nice*
[11:11] <professor_> btw I use Nvidia drivers since 1998 no probs
[11:11] <Drikan> Gena: how do i check
[11:11] <professor_> on Linux
[11:11] <galtran> it black console with login:     password:
[11:11] <Gnea> Drikan: could you please pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[11:11] <Drikan> one sec
[11:11] <professor_> galtran: how did you install the drivers
[11:11] <galtran> this problem appears only in ubuntu 9.04
[11:12] <professor_> I'm using Nvidia drivers on the latest Ubuntu too
[11:12] <galtran> i install from Hardware drivers manager
[11:12] <professor_> that should be fine
[11:12] <professor_> did you customise the X Config in any way previously?
[11:12] <galtran> no
[11:12] <professor_> what happens if you log in and type startx
[11:13] <galtran> mm.. i can't login with graphic interface
[11:13] <professor_> I can tell you it does work because I'm on the same setup
[11:13] <galtran> it's console
[11:13] <galtran> ;((((
[11:13] <professor_> log in via the text interface
[11:13] <professor_> and type startx
[11:13] <Gnea> jondgls: can you install archive-key-signatures?
[11:13] <professor_> console is fine
[11:13] <Drikan> Gena: pastbin: command not found
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> professor_: ive always used nvidia, flawless performance
[11:13] <Finnish> Whats a digital output on my laptop? card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: STAC92xx Digital [STAC92xx Digital]
[11:13] <Finnish>  I see no digital output
[11:14] <professor_> ActionParsnip: same here
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Drikan: its pastebinit
[11:14] <djiezes> !pastebin > Drikan
[11:14] <Drikan> lol
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Drikan: you can pipe outputs to the command too :D
[11:14] <warlock> hi guys
[11:14] <warlock> i was configuring conky to show RSS
[11:14] <peppot> anyone know why "pciehp" (for ExpressCard support, in my case) is missing from 2.6.28-11 in Jaunty?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Drikan: saves having to open a browser
[11:14] <warlock> using ${rss http://phorolinux.com/feed 60 item_titles 10}
[11:14] <Gnea> !pastebin | Drikan
[11:14] <deus> OK, im annoyed, what on earth is controlling the hotkeys?
[11:14] <warlock> and i keep getting this error prss:Error reading RSS data
[11:15] <warlock> what could be the issue
[11:15] <Gnea> oh whoops
[11:15] <warlock> ???
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> peppot: compile it yourself
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> peppot: of find a repo with it on
[11:15] <deus> Why is the gnome-hotkeys used when i run fluxbox?
[11:15] <lundh> anyone tried zfs on linux?
[11:15] <peppot> ActionParsnip, if I wanted to or felt comfortable doing so, I'd not use ubuntu... the mess of mainting self-compiled modules etc over kernel versions... just too much work
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> deus: did you install fluxbox on ubuntu?
[11:15] <Drikan> one sec need to install it
[11:16] <Gnea> !zfs | lundh
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> peppot: then you wont get the functionality you want
[11:16] <deus> i upgraeded to 9.04
[11:16] <deus> ActionParsnip:
[11:16] <jondgls> Gnea: Sorry, what are archive-key-signatures?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> deus: you missed my point, did you manually install fluxbox after installing ubuntu
[11:17] <Gnea> jondgls: it's a package available on the launchpad site that's supposed to cure the problem: https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/apt/archive-key-signatures
[11:17] <deus> if manual you mean trough the packagemanager, then yes
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> peppot: not all hardware works without some compiling, especially alsa for the folks who insist on using creative soundcards
[11:17] <lundh> this is really annoying. I can install ubuntu but I cant boot the installation :(
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> deus: then all the gnome packages that were in ubuntu will still be present in the fluxbox session
[11:17] <omeil> Hi all, im trying to install windows xp as dual boot but it keeps saying that it cannot write into the MBR because the file type is unknown (ext4). just wondering if there is a work around?
[11:17] <professor_> insist on Creative?
[11:17] <lundh> I have no idea what I do wrong
[11:18] <Mohero> anyone here familiar with apt-mirror?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> professor_: no, avoid imo
[11:18] <professor_> ActionParsnip: I use Audigy what's wrong with that
[11:18] <Mohero> just trying to find out if / how I can get it to download x86 aswell as amd64 for the mirror.
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> professor_: their support is garbage, even for windows. ive seen too many folks come in with issues with them
[11:19] <deus> ActionParsnip: yes, but why are they enabled, and specificly what program circumvents my hotkey setup on fluxbox?
[11:19] <Gnea> jondgls: hrm, actually, ubuntu-keyring should have it..
[11:19] <azlon1> !usb
[11:19] <Drikan> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/f503b386d
[11:19] <Kovensky> firefox is insta-crashing for me on startup with SIGBUS, simmilar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/174175
[11:20] <Gnea> Drikan: there seems to be some lengthy discussion on it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138110  not sure if it'll help or not
[11:20] <ye> how register a nick in freenode ?
[11:20] <dstrbdfrk> hey guys i just upgraded to 9.04 and i cant get my wireless to work i have an acer aspire one any takers?
[11:20] <omeil> ActionParsnip, What sound card brands do you recommend?
[11:20] <Kovensky> I'm using ubuntu jaunty
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> deus: its enabled due to it being loaded as part of the ubuntu system, flux is then just the front bt you see.
[11:20] <Drikan> looking
[11:20] <olopez> hi , i have gusty , anyone know some sources.list
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> deus: theres ~/.fluxbox/keys which will allow you to specify ANY shortcut keys you like
[11:20] <olopez> to gusty
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> deus: fluxbox has AWESOME shortcut key support
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> omeil: onboard realtek stuff has always worked for me and it makes a noise
[11:21] <deus> ActionParsnip: yes, and it is as i left it, the .fluxbox/keys dont do anything
[11:21] <DJones> !register | ye
[11:21] <deus> wait
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> desti_T2: they do if you put keys in there, read the documentation
[11:21] <omeil> ActionParsnip, cool, all was working fine wtih my audigy 2 till the jaunty upgrade i can't get any sound from tvtime or xawrv which sucks
[11:21] <deus> how is mod defined?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> desti_T2: wront target
[11:21] <professor_> ActionParsnip: seems the hardware is great but software is crap like ou say
[11:21] <deus> mod1
[11:21] <professor_> I agree
[11:21] <brzfw> ok ctrl alt f1 got me into virtual terminal, now how do i get out?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> professor_: yep, so i avoid
[11:22] <fosco_> brzfw: ctrl+F7
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> deus: mod = superkey
[11:22] <deus> no that cant be the problem, because when i press alt+f2 which is suppose to change my virtual desktop
[11:22] <deus> ActionParsnip: yes i know that but what would the superkey be
[11:22] <Kovensky> alt+f7
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> deus: its case sensitive too, look at the examples and you can set your own stuff
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> deus: i think Mod2 = alt
[11:22] <fosco_> brzfw: sorry alt+F7
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> left alt
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> deus: its all in the documentation online, its awesome
[11:23] <brzfw> fosco_: thank you1
[11:23] <deus> There is stuff there that wasnt there to begin with when i pres alt f2 i get the quicklaunch bar
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> deus: you'll find a lot of the time that the folks in #fluxbox are a bit snotty, or asleep. sometimes you get a nice one
[11:23] <deus> alt-f1 starts up xterm
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> deus: can you pastebin your keys file please
[11:24] <deus> ActionParsnip: LOOK! somehow gnome's shit got tangled with fluxbox configuration
[11:24] <deus> Mod1 F1 :Workspace 1
[11:24] <djiezes> deus, ActionParsnip, isn't it ctrl-alt-f1 , f2, f7 etc.. ?
[11:24] <Gnea> Drikan: that's just ... i don't know... what make/model is the laptop?
[11:24] <Mechdave> deus,  System --> Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts will let you customise the shortcuts to what you want
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> deus: then uninstall whatever gnome thing is running
[11:25] <geirha> deus: Does Win+F1-F4 change workspaces?
[11:25] <omeil> deus: can you see gnomes desktop?
[11:25] <deus> THATS what i was trying to ask about
[11:25] <syockit> I'm still getting getting frequent lockups after converting to ext3. Can I have someone who recently clean installed Jaunty pastebin his/her /etc/fstab?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> deus: thats confusing the show
[11:25] <deus> what deamon is it
[11:25] <deus> geirha: i dont have a win button
[11:25] <Drikan> Gena: its a gateway solo 1150
[11:26] <Gnea> !laptop
[11:26] <syockit> I need to know the flags for mounting the drives (i.e. / , /boot, /home)
[11:26] <geirha> deus: gnome-settings-daemon I think. Try "ps -ef | grep gnome"
[11:26] <jondgls> Gnea: dont know anything about that stuff so I was looking for a good resource to read up and try to solve the problem
[11:26] <omeil> Hi all, im trying to install windows xp as dual boot but it keeps saying that it cannot write into the MBR because the file type is unknown (ext4). just wondering if there is a work around?
[11:26] <indus> !crap
[11:26] <Mechdave> syockit, try this --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/164827/
[11:26] <ikonia> omeil: the mbr does not contain a file system
[11:26] <geirha> deus: Old keyboard then? Or do you have a meta key instead?
[11:26] <ikonia> indus: please stop that
[11:26] <syockit> Mechdave: thank you
[11:27] <Mechdave> syockit, no worries
[11:27] <indus> ok
[11:27] <ikonia> omeil: what is complaining ?
[11:27] <syockit> Mechdave: oh, it's ext4....
[11:27] <deus> geirha: i got the best keyboard in the world the old IBM ps2 keyboard
[11:27] <Mechdave> deus, I am not sure what you mean by daemon?
[11:27] <Mechdave> syockit, Oh oops, you wanted ext3 didn't you
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> deus: try: dpkg -l | grep hotkey
[11:27] <c0p3rn1c> is gnome-voice-control 0.3 easy to install on ubuntu 9.04 64bit?
[11:27] <Gnea> Drikan: did you install the standard ubuntu or something else like xubuntu/kubuntu?
[11:28] <syockit> Mechdave: do you get lock-ups?
[11:28] <omeil> ikonia: its saying that it can't install due to an incompatible file system E: <linux but i wasn't pointing at E: i was poitning at the NTFS partition, and it says that the MBR cannot be written due to that fact
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> deus: or dpkg -l | grep -i key | less
[11:28] <deus> you looking for hotkey-setup
[11:28] <Mechdave> syockit, I get a hard drive I/O error which stops the whole show :( But lockups as such no
[11:28] <ikonia> omeil: windows does not care about file systems, can you take a screen shot of this error
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> deus: try it
[11:29] <arkos> hi
[11:29] <Mechdave> syockit, Have you tried looking at /var/log/messages for clues on what could be doing it?
[11:29] <deus> its just a package its not a program
[11:29] <arkos> Anyone run the game flyff under wine?
[11:29] <deus> attleast i dont know the binary to it
[11:29] <syockit> Mechdave: hmm, you mean you don't get into situation where only the mouse pointer moves, but nothing else responds, forcing you to reboot?
[11:29] <ikonia> arkos: best bet is people in #wine-hq
[11:30] <arkos> ok thx
[11:30] <ikonia> arkos: #winehq - sorry
[11:30] <Gnea> jondgls: might have found the fix... checking
[11:30] <syockit> Mechdave: hmm, I haven't taken a look at the logs since Jaunty was released. will try again
[11:30] <Mechdave> syockit, yeah that has happened a couple of times, I do a ctrl + alt + f1 to console and see that I hace I/O errors on /dev/sda
[11:31] <Mechdave> *have*
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> deus: you could disable it from running as a daemon in your rc levels
[11:31] <omeil> ikonia: ill be back soon il take some photos with my camera
[11:32] <ikonia> omeil: super
[11:32] <Mechdave> syockit, But funnily enough it has only happened since I plugged in my 80Gig SATA drive
[11:32] <syockit> Mechdave: well, at least you get to ctrl+alt+f1... I can only alt+sysRq+b to reboot
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> syockit: doesnt sudo shutdown -r now work?
[11:33] <syockit> ActionParsnip: because I was on a xorg session (gnome), and can't change to tty, so I can't do that
[11:33] <Gnea> jondgls: found it: http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/adding-a-ppas-key-to-ubuntu
[11:33] <Mechdave> syockit, how often does it happen? is there anything that tends to trigger it (like opening programs etc)?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> syockit: strange
[11:34] <deus> in some instances i started up gnome-config-deamon and use gnome-control-panel
[11:34] <syockit> Mechdave: i say, firefox is the main culprit
[11:34] <deus> but i cant remeber it overode fluxbox regarding hotkeys
[11:34] <jondgls> Gnea: thanks i'll check it out!
[11:34] <deus> and i dont used gdm either only startx
[11:35] <Mechdave> syockit, I suggest cat /var/log/messages > messages.txt (so you can see the messages before they scroll past the window. It will create a file messages,txt)
[11:35] <deus> and gnome-settings-daemon is not running
[11:36] <deus> so that cant be the source
[11:36] <shaky> ciao
[11:37] <shaky> ciao a tutti
[11:37] <syockit> Mechdave: am viewing using vim for now. I'm going to play with the browser for a while to trigger a lockup, then reboot and diff. see you soon
[11:38] <Mechdave> syockit, Maybe I will do some digging on my own system in a bit in an endeavour to illuminate the source of my lockups ;)
[11:38] <Boohbah> !it | shaky
[11:38] <Mechdave> syockit, no worries
[11:38] <marcel_> i've formatted my usb drive filesystem as ext4, but its not mounted properly, i cannot write to it, how do i fix the permissions?
[11:39] <Mechdave> marcel_, how have you mounted it?
[11:39] <marcel_> Mechdave, its automounted by xubuntu
[11:40] <Mechdave> marcel_, does it have an entry in /etc/fstab?
[11:41] <Radtoo> marcel_: can you even write to it as superuser / root?
[11:41] <marcel_> Mechdave, no, its mounted as /media/disk
[11:41] <marcel_> Mechdave, as root yes
[11:41] <rumpel2> try "sudo chown <username> /media/disk"
[11:41] <shaky> grazi
[11:41] <Radtoo> guess then its just a matter of giving correct permissions rather than filesystem checking it.
[11:41] <reid> does projectM still work?
[11:41] <marcel_> rumpel2, thanks, that works
[11:42] <Mechdave> marcel_, so it is a permissions thing, you can mount it as rw but I am not sure how to do it with the xubuntu automounter
[11:42] <marcel_> Mechdave, thanks for the help, works now after changing the ownership to myself
[11:42] <Radtoo> reid: the music visualizer thingie?
[11:43] <Mechdave> marcel_, no worries
[11:43] <reid> Radtoo: yessir
[11:43] <reid> Radtoo: I'm trying to figure out if there is really a stable package for it or if I have to do some svn guesswork
[11:46] <Radtoo> reid: dunno how to rate "really stable" but there is a package for it... libvisual-projectm, no?
[11:47] <Radtoo> reid: or libprojectm2 for version 2 of projectm, I guess.
[11:47] <reid> Radtoo: I haven't been able to find any information on it frankly,  but thats enough for me to at least do some more research..
[11:47] <reid> Radtoo: the website seems to be updated like.. once every 6 months lol
[11:47] <achilles> hello all, I have two ISP routers, is it possible to install a linux box to provide redundancy if any of the routers failed the another take the place ?
[11:47] <Drikan> oh Gnea: sorry was editing my xorg.conf didnt see you type me somthing no standard ubuntu
[11:48] <rumpel2> achilles, anything ist possible :)
[11:48] <azlon> when i run "e2fsck -f /media/PORTABLELNX/casper-rw" in terminal it returns "/media/PORTABLELNX/casper-rw: 29928/64000 files (2.9% non-contiguous), 244581/256000 blocks". then when i run "resize2fs /media/PORTABLELNX/casper-rw" it says "Please run 'e2fsck -f /media/PORTABLELNX/casper-rw' first." what should i do?
[11:48] <ijijij> hi im using 8.04  and i want to update network manager for latest for mobile broad support is there anyway to do that
[11:48] <strixv> Hey guys I just had a really weird problem, trying to figure out what could cause it: I suspended, woke the machine back up, wireless wouldn't connect, rebooted, now all Ubuntu desktop settings (panels, compiz, etc) are reset to defaults! wtf?
[11:48] <strixv> (Ubuntu 9.04)
[11:48] <MementoMori> hi
[11:49] <achilles> rumpel2, :)
[11:49] <achilles> details ?
[11:49] <Radtoo> reid: Yes, seems like it's a small "spare time" project...
[11:49] <rumpel2> achilles, well... you can put script on both router, which adapts the route, if on of them is not responding for pings...
[11:49] <MementoMori> My natural language is Italian but i've installed jaunty in English. How can I change the system date format from mm/dd/yyyy to dd/mm/yyyy ?
[11:50] <deus> Also, when i used ctrl+alt+f8 and the like
[11:50] <syockit> strixv: wireless wouldn't connect sounds like a known bug, but desktop settings reset?!?!
[11:50] <deus> I CANT GET TO A COMMANDLINE
[11:50] <rumpel2> something like that... perhaps, there are more conveniant solutions out there
[11:50] <marcel_> what filesystem should i use if i want encryption?
[11:50] <Radtoo> reid: If you want more updates, I guess you'd have to make them yourself. ;)
[11:50] <achilles> rumpel2, it seems like heartbeat .. but it's not what I'm looking for
[11:50] <fosco_> deus: ctrl+alt+f1
[11:50] <deus> i enabled killx but when i used it all i get is a striped screen
[11:51] <deus> fosco_: nothing
[11:51] <ozzer> hi i just installed xubuntu on my pc and want to mount the windows partition to get at my files on there, how do i do this. i could mount the hard drive running the live cd but now i've installed it can't seem to get at the other partition.
[11:51] <achilles> rumpel2, sometimes fail comes from the ISP
[11:51] <Drikan> gnea: check PM
[11:51] <deus> fosco_: the blinking - is there but i cant relay any input
[11:51] <peterloorke> hi, i can't make crontab work any suggestion?
[11:51] <strixv> syockit: Yeah exactly, desktop settings all reset like I deleted some /home/user/.gnome stuff
[11:51] <fosco_> deus: it happens sometimes when having problems with framebuffer in console
[11:52] <reid> ozzer: honestly the easiest way to have done this would have been during the install.  You can mount the existing partition at /windows, and tell ubuntu not to format it
[11:52] <Drikan> Gnea: brb restaring
[11:52] <strixv> syockit: Also, my nautilus bookmarks list has disappeared. When I drag something into it, it sits there for .5 seconds and then disappears too
[11:52] <fosco_> deus: use startupmanager and try a lower init resolution
[11:52] <syockit> strixv: but you're still logged in? on were you logged out when you resumed?
[11:52] <deus> fosco_: what startupmanager?
[11:53] <MrSunshine> ive changed a file in modprobe.d folder, how do i regenerate the needed files for booting ?
[11:53] <strixv> syockit: Yeah I'm still logged in. I restarted a few times, logged in, same user, only 1 user on the system anyway
[11:53] <ozzer> reid: is there another way short of reinstalling it
[11:53] <strixv> I still have all my /home/user files
[11:53] <fosco_> deus: sudo aptitude install startupmanager && sudo startupmanager
[11:54] <deus> wait, what does the init resolution have anything to do with that?
[11:54] <Radtoo> ozzer: how can't you get at the other partition? on the ocmmand line?
[11:54] <syockit> strixv: yeah, but what about .gnome or .local files? I'm suspecting either they're corrupted, or loaded read only, or something else I can't think of
[11:54] <reenignEesreveR> how do i make sure that logrotate is working?
[11:54] <strixv> syockit: Yeah it seems like it's gotta be something like that. Weird behavior all over the board. For example, the google search box in Firefox just stopped working. Can type in it, but pressing enter does nothing.
[11:55] <reid> ozzer: You could edit fstab, but if you are very new to linux this is a bit scary and might take you just as long as just reinstalling o.O
[11:55] <reid> ozzer: actually, you might be able to do it with gparted or some other GUI thing nowadays..
[11:55] <strixv> syockit: Is there a way to do a scan for hard disk corruption in Ubuntu?
[11:55] <Radtoo> strixv: sure, multiple.
[11:56] <Radtoo> strixv: I personally like using smartctl -t long on the command line
[11:56] <strixv> ok
[11:56] <reenignEesreveR> I've installed ubuntu 8.04 server. I'm not sure if logrotation.d is getting invoked. How do I ensure that? I can't find any cronjob anywhere installed for it
[11:57] <strixv> Radtoo: when I install that it tries to set up some Postfix stuff
[11:57] <drkimble> !mp3
[11:57] <strixv> Radtoo: ok got it with "no configuration"
[11:57] <Radtoo> strixv: The log then can be viewed with smartctl -a. It does a lot of tests...
[11:57] <Radtoo> strixv: what? - -
[11:57] <blankthemuffin> http://pb.luahelp.com/883 why is it so?
[11:58] <strixv> Radtoo: It has some mail options. Do you have a suggestion for a graphical one as well that doesn't involve log files? I've spent forever poring over the system logs trying to figure it out already
[11:58] <Gnea> Drikan: you should get a different ubuntu derivative - your system is too slow for standard ubuntu
[11:59] <Drikan> Gnea: well every thing works just the pesky video issue
[11:59] <Radtoo> strixv: No. I don't use any mail options, but I also don't use any graphical things when I just need information. :)
[11:59] <deus> fosco_: this cant be the problem, the bootloader menu can be seen plainly, and i uninstall gdm so i go directly into terminal and that works fine at first before i start x
[11:59] <fosco_> ok
[11:59] <Gnea> Drikan: have you used older ubuntu versions on it?
[11:59] <drkimble> Drikan: dont give up, where there is a will, and all that
[11:59] <Drikan> Gnea: hell its runing better then XP did
[11:59] <Gnea> lol
[12:00] <peterloorke> crontab problem, anybody? am i the only one having this problem?
[12:00] <Gnea> well, it's ubuntu, of course it runs better than XP ;)
[12:00] <cipo> m
[12:00] <Gnea> peterloorke: don't know about a crontab problem - works fine here
[12:00] <cipo> bom dia
[12:00] <indus> Gnea: XP runs as good
[12:00] <peterloorke> oh, i see T_T
[12:00] <Drikan> gnea: no i just got the laptop and using it to study for school
[12:00] <wildc4rd> whats my best choice of app to run a VM on ubuntu?
[12:00] <cipo> como funciona??
[12:00] <Boohbah> peterloorke: what's the problem?
[12:00] <Gnea> indus: runs it into the ground good?
[12:01] <drkimble> Most OS's are ok :)
[12:01] <peterloorke> simply it does not work
[12:01] <Boohbah> wildc4rd: virtualbox
[12:01] <Gnea> XP is better than Vista, but Ubuntu is better than both :)
[12:01] <Boohbah> peterloorke: is crond running?
[12:01] <Gnea> !br | cipo
[12:01] <chalcedony> Gnea: right on :)
[12:01] <drkimble> my vista works like a charm
[12:01] <wildc4rd> kk, cheers boohbah, I'll have a look now
[12:02] <Gnea> drkimble: charmed you into using ubuntu, eh?
[12:02] <peterloorke> wait i have to look (i wish this is not my problem if so i'm gonna kill myself lol)
[12:02] <Tjong> :D
[12:02] <drkimble> I dual boot
[12:02] <Gnea> clearly
[12:02] <drkimble> always have done
[12:02] <romme> i've installed xulrunner-1.9.1 to try out the new firefox, and now both evolution and liferea don't launch, just print "Aborted" in the console. i do have evolution-rss installed. is there any workaround other than remove the firefox beta?
[12:02] <Radtoo> strixv: At least I can vouch that a long SMART test is fairly reliable... (There's no better test routines I know of).
[12:02] <drkimble> cant get WoW to run in Linux :)
[12:02] <Tjong> omg
[12:02] <indus> Gnea: this isnt a windows support forum or i would have helped you with it
[12:02] <Gnea> drkimble: it's tricky, but can be done
[12:02] <Radtoo> drkimble: well, you could.
[12:02] <drkimble> really
[12:03] <erUSUL> !appdb | drkimble
[12:03]  * drkimble is interested
[12:03] <Radtoo> drkimble: Yes, appdb.winehq.com has info
[12:03] <Drikan> well definitly MS has there head up there ass making there OS: with soo mutch services running in the backgound but im running Vista on my desk top witch is far superior to this POS Laptop
[12:03] <wildc4rd> is that one OK on Gnome boohbah?
[12:03] <erUSUL> !ot | Drikan
[12:03] <Boohbah> wildc4rd: it uses qt but it will run fine in gnome
[12:03] <Radtoo> drkimble: And tricky... is relative. An average reading person with an hour or two can do it.
[12:03] <Gnea> drkimble: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[12:03] <strixv> Radtoo: I'm not sure how to use this. I have to specify a device type and location
[12:03] <drkimble> nice, thanks
[12:04] <ozzer> drkimble: have you installed Wine?
[12:04] <drkimble> whats it run like though, every millisecond is life or death :)
[12:04] <Radtoo> strixv: you have to specify the device, yes. like /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[12:04]  * Gnea doesn't waste his time playing WoW, so not sure ;)
[12:05] <Drikan> well inany case Ubuntu installed when Fedora 10 did not
[12:05]  * drkimble wastes a lot of time
[12:05] <Boohbah> Gnea: you imply that you have better things to do
[12:05] <Gnea> Boohbah: indeed. the battle for wesnoth is a much cheaper time waster.
[12:05] <peterloorke> Boohbah: i restarted cron and it did non work, again.
[12:06] <Radtoo> strixv: As it runs on the device, no other "locations" are necessary. It will test it thoroughly (without command line output) due to you using the "long" routine, and log the result(s) to the drive. Which logs you can get at with smartctl -a. Does that explain things?
[12:06] <ozzer> reid: where is fstab and what would need editing?
[12:06] <Prabz> Hi, ever since I upgraded to jaunty, I've been facing a problem with playing videos in vlc. The video no longer runs within the main window, rather, it runs in a separate window called "XVideo output"
[12:06] <Prabz> How to correct it?
[12:06] <drkimble> best thing about Linux is you know nowt is spying on you in some closed program, then again if you have google earth running you never know whats going on I suppose
[12:06] <Gnea> alright, I'm trying to make a key using gpg --gen-key, but when it asks for more entropy, it never catches up - how can I correct this?
[12:07]  * Kovensky would encourage to not use VLC but that isn't the point
[12:07] <strixv> Radtoo: Yep I've got a list here of some errors and stuff recorded by SMART
[12:07] <strixv> How can I schedule a disk check for the next time I restart Ubuntu?
[12:07] <Kovensky> Gnea: keep mashing your keyboard?
[12:07] <Radtoo> strixv: that's entirely not the same :)
[12:07] <Gnea> Kovensky: did that for a few minutes straight. nada
[12:07] <mib_aguhdw> http://kr0y.mybrute.com/
[12:07] <Prabz> Kovensky, what else to use, if not vlc?
[12:07] <rdw200169> Is there a good place to find information on reducing firefox's idle CPU usage?  I regularly have b/w 15 - 20% idle CPU usage, even when the window is minimized... ?
[12:07] <Radtoo> strixv: its good that you got logs but the type of check you think of from the windows world is not mainly a hardware check, but a data check
[12:07] <Kovensky> I use mplayer
[12:08] <strixv> Radtoo: That's ok, I'd like to let it run through the check that I always skip ;)
[12:08] <djiezes> Prabz: i think you can change that setting in vlc options.
[12:08] <Gnea> Prabz: just change the video output plugin in the preferences
[12:08] <strixv> Radtoo: And I don't understand a word in the logs
[12:08] <Gnea> Prabz: make it like opengl or x11
[12:08] <Kovensky> anyway, any idea what might have caused https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/174175 to hit me on jaunty? :/
[12:08] <Radtoo> strixv: The data checks on ubuntu run as needed (like they do in newer versions of XP). You could run one manually with the filesystem utilities but I don't think you "schedule" them any time.
[12:08] <Kovensky> firefox worked perfectly for me while I was using the alphas, borked after I upgraded to the final :/
[12:09] <Kovensky> tried downgrading already, nothing
[12:09] <demon_> i cant make another partition from my sda1 pls help
[12:09] <Gnea> demon_: sda1 is a partition, you can't partition it further
[12:09] <Kovensky> demon_: you can't make partitions inside partitions
[12:09] <demon_> Kovensky, i want to make another one :)
[12:09] <Radtoo> strixv: Sorry, meant to say windows XP and newer. And well, you don't need to understand much more in the logs than that the drive's hardware is broken in some parts, perhaps?
[12:10] <Gnea> demon_: then make it on sda
[12:10] <rdw200169> demon_, you can use something like gparted to do that.  keep in mind that you can't be using that particular partition at the time you *resize* it.
[12:10] <demon_> Gnea,  i dont have sda just sda 1.2 and 5
[12:10] <DaveWM> you can partiion it into directories...
[12:10] <strixv> Radtoo: Okay I'd like to run one manually with the filesystem utilities... but I haven't found it in the menus
[12:10] <DaveWM> heh
[12:10] <Radtoo> strixv: Usually the suggestion is to return the drive when it has errors other than reads that took too long or something, as that indicates actual seriosu damge to hardware.
[12:10] <demon_> live cd ??? i can do with that can i
[12:11] <Gnea> demon_: sda is the whole disk, 1, 2 and 5 are partitions. again, you can only partition the whole disk, not partitions (unless it's extended)
[12:11] <strixv> Radtoo: And I'll just do that after I let it finish this 88 minute smart test ;)
[12:11] <Gnea> !partitions | demon_
[12:11] <Prabz> djiezes, Gnea , I've tried resetting all preferences, made it opengl, X11, whatever I do, it just changes the title of the separate window
[12:11] <rdw200169> demon_, so, for example, if your entire hard drive is one big partition (sda1), you would resize sda1 to a smaller size, then create a new one in the empty space.
[12:11] <Radtoo> strixv: Its all command line... what type of a filesystem do you have? (can check with "mount")
[12:11] <demon_> rdw200169,  i cant resize my sda1 dunno why
[12:11] <rdw200169> demon_, yes, the ubuntu live cd has gparted, which consequentially works better than the installer's partition tools
[12:12] <strixv> Radtoo: An ext1 filesystem on /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda5
[12:12] <rdw200169> demon_, what did you use to to do that?  what type of partition is it?
[12:12] <demon_> rdw200169,  my sda1 is locked
[12:12] <demon_> ext3
[12:12] <Gnea> demon_: you can't do anything while it's mounted, that's why you need the livecd
[12:12] <snitko> anyone knows why in 9.04 the terminal window autoresizes when I run Vim in it and how to disable it?
[12:12] <traumgeist> lol
[12:12] <peterloorke> Boohbah: i restarted cron and it did non work, again. Also when i'm trying to log cron with this append or whatever thing ( > ) it don't works too
[12:12] <demon_> Gnea, yeap thanks lemme find a live cd :)
[12:13] <c_nick> any community for C Begineers
[12:13] <drkimble> demon_: try sysrescue cd its great for partition stuff http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[12:13] <Gnea> c_nick: #programming or #c
[12:13] <demon_> thanks
[12:13] <demon_> lemme reboot
[12:13] <demon_> cheers
[12:13] <djiezes> Prabz: somewhere on the first page of preferences, there's an option to 'integrate video in interface'. maybe that's what you're looking for.
[12:14] <Radtoo> strixv: with that one you actually could cause it to fsck on reboot... tune2fs -c 1 /dev/hdaX
[12:14] <Prabz> djiezes, toggling that option doesn't make a difference
[12:14]  * Gnea is trying to sign the ubuntu CoC but can't get the farking key made....
[12:14] <mib_aguhdw> Join and play this http://is.gd/wSkZ Flash based MMORPG. Addictive!!!
[12:14] <bazhang> mib_aguhdw, dont paste here
[12:14] <Gnea> !ot | mib_aguhdw
[12:14] <rdw200169> c_nick, there are also many many websites that help you learn C, particularly on linux, where things are free, regardless, for the best experience, it is highly recommended that you pick up the #1 reference for C, K&R: "The C Programming Language" by Kernighan and Ritchie.
[12:15] <Radtoo> strixv: note that I copy / pasted this one. Its more likely that you got /dev/sdaX or something. And the "1" means check on every boot... it will happen until you change it back
[12:15] <JessicaParker> hi can anyone assist with dual screen ? have got it working somehow but not sure how to switch between primary and secondary ?
[12:15] <JessicaParker> i have an intel video card
[12:15] <strixv> Radtoo: ok great thanks a lot for that command!
[12:15] <Radtoo> strixv: (normal is more like 20 or something, not 1)
[12:15] <rdw200169> JessicaParker, darn!  I know a lot about doing it with Nvidia, but not intel :(
[12:15] <Gnea> JessicaParker: did you put the same desktop across both or 2 different desktop on both?
[12:16] <djiezes> Prabz: the option to put video & controls in 1 window should be somewhere there in preferences. also check skinning options.
[12:16] <JessicaParker> 2 different desktops
[12:16] <Gnea> JessicaParker: that leads me to believe that there are 2 separate X servers running - would that be correct?
[12:16] <c_nick> rdw200169: ohh ok i wanted to help someone with their Basic C difficulties... thats all the sharpen my skills
[12:16] <Drikan> Gnea: OK well im chatting with you on Ubuntu now and the only thing wrong is this video issue. editing the xorg.conf file didnt seem to do any thing and even in the file is states that its pretty mutch useless.  1 why is it useless and 2 how do i set the pramiters manualy or reconfigure X11 to use the file again?
[12:17] <c_nick> i was reading K&R but then got a bit bored reading it
[12:17] <JessicaParker> not sure I used system>preferences>screen resolution
[12:17] <Gnea> JessicaParker: also, what do you mean by 'switch', exactly?
[12:17] <jhattara> join #ubuntu-fi
[12:17] <JessicaParker> i will get a screen print
[12:17] <Radtoo> strixv: no problem. :)
[12:17] <rdw200169> c_nick, smart man ;)  if you're just looking for a good quick reference, there's a package for ubuntu that sort-of offers that
[12:18] <c_nick> ohh where ?
[12:18] <strixv> Radtoo: This is really weird, I can't log into gmail, I can't do advanced google searches, all my preferences for everything seem to have disappeared
[12:18] <strixv> Radtoo: But I can log into facebook and do regular googles
[12:18] <rdw200169> c_nick, i think its c++-annotations
[12:18] <Gnea> Drikan: you know, that whole bit has become a bit of a mystery that i haven't bothered to figure out yet... usually, i just make minor edits to xorg.conf where needed and restart it anyway
[12:18] <Radtoo> strixv: Agreed, it is weird.
[12:18] <rdw200169> c_nick, it also has some stuff on basic C syntax, also
[12:18] <c_nick> how should i get a hold on that
[12:18] <strixv> Radtoo: And all of my bookmarks in FF have disappeared. I suspect it has something to do with an FF addon or with upgrading FF
[12:19] <jimi_hendrix> i followed the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver but now ubuntu just runs in low graphics mode
[12:19] <rdw200169> c_nick, being that its a normal ubuntu package, just $ sudo apt-get install c++-annotations
[12:19] <Radtoo> strixv: There's some chance something in your user directory (or browser settings) or browser itself is broken.
[12:19] <strixv> Radtoo: But my bookmarks have only disappeared from the bookmarks list, when I type into the URL bar they still show up when they match what I'm typing. Fuckin strange
[12:20] <ozzer> i'm sorted, managed to mount at cmd line from instructions on ubuntu help :)
[12:20] <c_nick> rdw200169: how to get it
[12:20] <Drikan> humm
[12:20] <Radtoo> strixv: ah, but these are a bit different in firefox. They also come from the url history and such. I recall your bookmarks should be in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html or bookmarks.bat
[12:20] <JessicaParker> Gnea: i have a 19inch and a laptop - the screen print does not capture it properly but it works.............
[12:21] <Radtoo> strixv: where *.default is a profile folder with some odd name. might be called anything, actually ;)
[12:21] <amar> sound disappeared during 9.04 RC and after some tweaks with driver selection..came back... but still not with Video Players or Amarok...
[12:21] <Gnea> JessicaParker: url?
[12:21] <strixv> Radtoo: yeah I know they come from history etc but these are definitely bookmarks, they have the gold star icon on the right
[12:21] <JessicaParker> Gnea: http://imagebin.ca/view/YQAeT5DB.html
[12:21] <Radtoo> strixv: It may help to recover the bookmarks, but I have no clue at all what might have broken your browser and such... :)
[12:21] <strixv> Radtoo: And when I go to "organize bookmarks" firefox crashes
[12:22] <deus> Are there any ubuntu help channel for more advanced users
[12:22] <compubomb> when i upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 my grub no longer shows when a menu item is being selected, so i have to just figure if i move all the way up enough times i'll get linux, all the way down enough times i get windows.
[12:22] <deus> this clearly isnt working
[12:22] <Radtoo> strixv: Oh, okay. Well, you at least know what to backup for the bookmarks now if you choose to erase the settins directory for firefox eventually. :)
[12:22] <compubomb> doesn't show an active highlighted entry.
[12:22] <rdw200169> c_nick, wait, i'm sorry, this was the package: c-cpp-reference
[12:22] <indus> amar: what is the problem
[12:22] <strixv> Radtoo: Yep, thanks ;)
[12:22] <JessicaParker> Gnea: i need the one on the right to be primary (that is my laptop)
[12:22] <strixv> Radtoo: Okay I'm gonna restart and see what a disk check comes up with
[12:22] <strixv> Radtoo: Thanks for all your help!
[12:22] <rdw200169> c_nick, so, if you get that from synaptic or apt-get, you can read the documentation starting at
[12:22] <Radtoo> strixv: its gonna interrupt smart tho ;)
[12:23] <c_nick> ohh ok
[12:23] <rdw200169> c_nick, by copying this into the firefox URL bar: file:///usr/share/doc/c-cpp-reference/html/C/c.html
[12:23] <deus> OK let take it from the top
[12:23] <mib_c8pp57> anyone here with a nokia n73 able to use it as a music player in jaunty with rythmbox to
[12:23] <amar> indus: I don't have sound when using a video player like SMPlayer or VLC or whatever
[12:23] <mib_c8pp57> add or remove songs
[12:23] <mib_c8pp57> ?
[12:23] <indus> amar: right click on sound icon in panel says what?
[12:24] <deus> WHAT makes sure that alt+f2 starts up Run program
[12:24] <advance> Hey guys I'm having trouble trying to configure Xscreensaver can anyone help me out?
[12:24] <deus> in gnome
[12:24] <Mechdave> Has anyone experienced the live cd requiring a username and password?
[12:24] <shadeslayer> Mechdave: some,but not me
[12:24] <advance> deus:  Keyboard shortcuts.. You can change it if you want t
[12:25] <indus> Mechdave: just use ubuntu and ubuntu for username password
[12:25] <c_nick> ok
[12:25] <djiezes> deus: you can set those in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[12:25] <mib_c8pp57> deus: system->pref-> keyboard shoprtcuts
[12:25] <sacarlson> Machdave: at install time?
[12:25] <advance> Lol
[12:25] <amar> indus: displays volume control and mute option etc.... (i can hear to my songs using rhythmbox or other music players
[12:25] <Mechdave> indus, cheers
[12:25] <mib_c8pp57> nyone here with a nokia n73 able to use it as a music player in jaunty with rythmbox to add or remove songs?
[12:25] <indus> Mechdave: :)
[12:25] <Jockeo> When printing a sheet in OOo Calc, it prints the name of the sheet, such as "Sheet1" on the top of the paper. How can I prevent this?
[12:25] <deus> advance: it doesnt specify anything that have to do with changeing desktops
[12:26] <JessicaParker> Gnea: any ideas ? thank you
[12:26] <djiezes> Jockeo: in the printing options dialog?
[12:26] <indus> amar: which movie player > totem have you tried?
[12:26] <Gnea> JessicaParker: still checking..
[12:26] <djiezes> Jockeo: page options probably
[12:26] <deus> advance: and nothing beginning with "alt" has an entry there
[12:26] <mib_c8pp57> nokia n73 users out there?
[12:26] <rdw200169> c_nick, also, for future reference, there is an application called 'dhelp' which makes browsing and using documentation in a debian environment a little easier.  this particular application keeps track of a directory called /usr/share/doc/HTML which acts like a one stop place to go for various, mostly programming, resources
[12:26] <Mechdave> indus, didn't work :(
[12:26] <advance> deus:  Changing desktops is a compix thing. What you want to do is go under system > preferences >  compiz settings manager
[12:27] <deus> but that wasnt my question either, what daemon picks up the hotkeys and run the appropriate program
[12:27] <deus> advance: i dont run compiz
[12:27] <indus> Mechdave: tell me where exactly is it askking for password
[12:27] <advance> deus:  wait..
[12:27] <Jockeo> djiezes: It was in the page options, thanks!
[12:27] <advance> deus:  I don't know then. My bad dude.
[12:27] <amar> indus: nope.. i use SM and VLC generally..however even in Totem it didn't have sound
[12:27] <djiezes> Jockeo: np, glad i could help
[12:27] <Firefishe> Where might I find instructions for installing kde 3.5.10 alongside kde4?  I'm using ubuntu 8.10
[12:28] <rdw200169> deus, lemme guess, your Alt + F2 doesn't work anymore either...
[12:28] <indus> amar: go to system>preferences>sound and tell me your output setings
[12:28] <advance> Anyone know Xscreensaver?
[12:28] <Drikan> Gnea: How do i figure out my exact vershion of XWin?
[12:29] <deus> rdw200169: well yes it works, it brings up the "run program" bar
[12:29] <Jockeo> djiezes: I had looked in several places, in "Tools" -> "Options", in the printing dialog and googled a little but couldn't find it. I had totally missed the fact that there is a page options form.
[12:29] <deus> rdw200169: thing is, I DONT USE GNOME i use fluxbox
[12:29] <Gnea> JessicaParker: did you do any manual editting or xorg.conf or was it all guified?
[12:29] <Gnea> Drikan: it's usually at the top of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:29] <rdw200169> deus, then i'm still the only one...
[12:30] <Drikan> oh ok thanks
[12:30] <amar> indus: Sound playback: OSS, Music & Movies :OSS, Audio Conf.. : same in both : OSS .., Default Mixer Tracks : HDA Intel(Alsa mixer)
[12:30] <rdw200169> deus, forgive me, but i've never used fluxbox, so i don't know :(
[12:30] <deus> rdw200169: thats ok but what is your problem
[12:30] <JessicaParker> Gnea: no manual edit whatsoever
[12:31] <indus> amar: change it to autodetect
[12:31] <JessicaParker> Gnea: just plug and play.............things have come a long way these days
[12:31] <Gnea> JessicaParker: okay. can you please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[12:31] <Gnea> JessicaParker: yes they have :)
[12:31] <amar> indus: where?? what??? everything??
[12:31] <advance> Can anyone help me configure Xscreensaver I'm having a bit of trouble
[12:31] <rdw200169> deus, meh, i don't know, since i've installed 9.04 Alt+f2 functionality disappeared.  it would be unfair, though, to discuss it further b/c its probably something stupid, and related to the fact that i've had the same /home since 7.10
[12:31] <indus> amar: yes everything except audio capture
[12:31] <rdw200169> deus, that and i've put exactly 0% effort into finding the problem ;)
[12:32] <dimebar> deus: sorry what's your problem with fluxbox?
[12:32] <amar> indus:  ok ..but what in Mixer?
[12:32] <deus> dimebar: fluxbox uses gnomes hotkey settings
[12:32] <indus> amar: alsamixer
[12:32] <amar> indus: ok
[12:32] <indus> amar: i mean the first option must be that
[12:33] <indus> amar: what option do you have
[12:33] <amar> indus: did
[12:33] <indus> amar: logout and login then play a movie
[12:33] <JessicaParker> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/d1674d206
[12:34] <amar> indus: ok..sure..thanks...
[12:34] <Barre> trying to make a vpn connection with pptp in jaunty, but I keep getting a dbus-daemon rejected message in auth.log. What have I missed?
[12:34] <mater> i have ubuntu installed but i am currently running windows. i need to replace the primary loader cause it is infected, can someone help me out on this?
[12:35] <mater> my box got rooted and is totally infected
[12:35] <Radtoo> mater: You mean your boot sector also got overwritten?
[12:35] <mater> everything is blocked by firewall i wrote, but still i need to recover somehoe
[12:35] <mater> well, this virus has root priviledges
[12:36] <Radtoo> mater: it's ... in ubuntu as well?
[12:36] <indus> mater: cool
[12:36] <mater> i don't think it is in ubuntu
[12:36] <indus> mater: maybe reinstall grub?
[12:36] <Radtoo> mater: okay, so its a windows virus that just did it's best to annoy without destroying random data on the hdd.
[12:37] <mater> the question i have is this: i want to boot from ubuntu, unfortunately i never used ubuntu b4, i used redhat, so i donnow what to do for me to be able to boot in ubuntu now
[12:37] <Radtoo> mater: In that case, reinstall grub, and you might need to run fixmbr using a windows cd as well (or wipe/reinstall windows).
[12:37] <indus> mater: Do Not reinstall windows on top of ubuntu , system wont boot
[12:37] <advance> indus:  LIES
[12:38] <indus> but you can fix mbr with other tools i hear
[12:38] <Radtoo> mater: ehm... you mean its not installed yet?
[12:38] <mater> Radtoo, correct. it did not actually destoy anything yet, it is basically an open proxy to some funky operation of enlarge your peanus type
[12:38] <indus> advance: its true ,windows overwrites the mbr
[12:38] <Radtoo> mater: annoying enough but yes then you can be almost certain it wasn't doing anything at all to any linux which was installed.
[12:39] <indus> advance:there are tools to recover but  i dont want to discuss it here
[12:39] <advance> indus: But all you have to do is take a live cd and copy your grub record then transfer it over to another bootloader and you can actualy use the Vista/Longhorn bootloader.
[12:39] <mater> Radtoo, ubuntu is installed but i installed winxp sp3 and never booted ubuntu after that
[12:39] <martinom> advance: Yeah, pretty easy actually.
[12:39] <advance> indus:  Yeah I was about to say You need to tell that to my computer because she works really good
[12:39] <advance> martinom:  Yeah it was really easy
[12:39] <indus> advance: yes but the fact is me and most users dont get it
[12:39] <Radtoo> mater: okay. that makes it clear. well, you might actually want to just install a newer version of ubuntu now if one came out in the meantime ;)
[12:40] <djiezes> mater: you just need to reinstall grub, in order to be able to boot ubuntu.
[12:40] <martinom> advance: I've done it a few times by mistake :p
[12:40] <indus> advance: bootloader scares me
[12:40] <Radtoo> mater: But failing that, just boot the old ubuntu cd and do http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[12:40] <mater> indus, well, if you can help me out, join #rootkit. we can talk there, the same thing for anybody else
[12:40] <advance> djiezes:  no you don't
[12:40] <martinom> advance: grub-install writes to mbr.
[12:40] <indus> mater: i can help you with grub here itself
[12:40] <djiezes> why not? ubuntu is still on his system.
[12:40] <indus> its easy
[12:40] <zhangxing> test
[12:40] <advance> You guys are out of control
[12:40] <advance> I'm 15 and I did it?
[12:41] <syockit> hmm I seem to have found something that does what I wanted. it combines two of them too: 1. hide a tab 2. number the tabs. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9528
[12:41] <advance> and you guys are scared
[12:41]  * Gnea looks oddly at advance
[12:41] <indus> mater: use a live cd and boot into ubuntu first then you can repair grub
[12:41] <martinom> Mhm.
[12:41] <indus> advance: iam i correct?
[12:42] <Gnea> JessicaParker: have you tried xrandr?
[12:42] <mater> Radtoo, i tried to boot from old ubuntu, but my primary loader is bad
[12:42] <djiezes> indus: yea, but don't trust me, i'm out of control app ;-)
[12:42] <Radtoo> mater: using the cd is the imperative here
[12:42] <martinom> All you have to do is run 'grub-install' i guess. Which actually does not 'install' grub all over again, it just writes to mbr.
[12:43] <JessicaParker> Gnea: no i thought with the auto detection  there would be something that i could use
[12:43] <Radtoo> mater: you'll have to boot off the cd to fix the loader.
[12:43] <advance> indus:  http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm
[12:43] <advance> indus: That is probobly the easyest thing I have ever done on linux
[12:43] <JessicaParker> Gnea: i was reluctant to do anything else mainly as it seems to all work as i need it to
[12:44] <advance> indus: Primaraly using NEOGrub it was really easy
[12:44] <martinom> I've been looking around for a solution to a resolution problem i have. The edges of my desktop/display won't show up.
[12:44] <root> where are kernel headers for 2.6.27-11-generic?
[12:44] <advance> martinom:  What do you mean the edges
[12:44] <root> cannot find them in jaunty repos.
[12:44] <indus> advance: i know , but these things are too much for a new user thats all i say
[12:44] <martinom> advance: Seems as if though the screen is 'zoomed'.
[12:44] <mater> Radtoo, i am trying to boot from ubuntu cd and thought i could do a reinstall, but it wants to repartition my drives, or else quit
[12:45] <Gnea> JessicaParker: the problem with gnome and autodetection is that it, often times, does just the bare minimum. the GUI itself provides just enough to get the job done - and that's a good thing. but, you're talking about altering things, which is beyond the scope of the basic GUI design of ubuntu. it really depends on how badly you want to switch the screens, but it's going to require going to the level of commandline and using xrandr to tweak the settings and
[12:45] <martinom> If you know what I mean.
[12:45] <indus> advance: i did repair grub once but it was scary
[12:45] <sacarlson> martinom: you sure it's not your monitor settings that need to be changed
[12:45] <indus> easy but scary
[12:45] <peppot> q
[12:45] <mater> Radtoo, can we talk about this on #rootkit, cause it too much traffic here
[12:45] <martinom> sacarlson: When I move xorg.conf somewhere and use vesa, it works.
[12:45] <Radtoo> mater: you can do a reinstall? just tell it to use the old partitions you had.
[12:45] <Gnea> and i have no idea if that got cut off or not
[12:45] <rdw200169> you don't need to reboot to fix the mbr, or anything like that.  the trick, is to know what device you want to put it on.  for example, when you run the live cd, the HDD is given a name which may not not be the same as the one it is during the normal boot.  things get tricky here, but not too bad.
[12:45] <martinom> But without the nvidia driver of course.
[12:45] <JessicaParker> Gnea: any ideas on if i can just amend the xorg file or is it not as simple as that ?
[12:45] <martinom> Basically uses default settings.
[12:45] <advance> indus:  How is booting on a linux live cd then figuring out what partition your harddrive is on thn typing install hd(0.0)
[12:45] <Gnea> JessicaParker: amend or append?
[12:45] <martinom> Tried to play around with nvidia-settings with no results.
[12:46] <advance> martinom:  do you have a scroll wheel?
[12:46] <rdw200169> so, for example, if your regular hdd is called /dev/sda in the live cd, you would run $ grub-install /dev/sda
[12:46] <martinom> advance: I've tried actually 'zooming' yeah. :)
[12:46] <mater> Radtoo, i don't see a choice to use old partitions during ubuntu reinstall, or rather fresh install
[12:46] <martinom> It's more of a resolution problem.
[12:46] <advance> martinom:  Hey you never know lol.
[12:46] <sacarlson> martinom: oh nvidia I have similar problem with nvidia I just us nv for now
[12:46] <advance> rdw200169:  Nah no you wouldn't
[12:46] <Mechdave> indus, Problem solved, just a APIC error... rebooted now fine thx
[12:46] <martinom> sacarlson: Problem is that I'm developing with CUDA...
[12:46] <rdw200169> or, on the other hand, if its /dev/sdb or /dev/hda or whatever, the $ grub-install still works.  the key is that you can use /dev/ names instead of the name from the device map, which makes things quite a bit easier in the long run
[12:46] <Radtoo> mater: It has no "free" space to work with at the moment but if you tell it to use the existing ubuntu partitiosn all wil be fine. As for #rootkit, sorry, no. I also don't know everything or make no mistakes, its good if other people think along :)
[12:46] <martinom> I need the driver to work :)
[12:46] <JessicaParker> Gnea: any / either - amend would be better as then i know the setting is there............i had one really bad experience with these files and had to do a reinstall as i could not recover the copy properly so painful hence the reluctance
[12:47] <TheZanke> just took my lappy completely appart... cleaned every chip with isopropyl alcohol, air dusted (with an air compressor) the whole thing... re-thermal pasted it all with articsilver-5 and put it all back together perfectly.... still tons of errors in memtest86+... guess it really is my ram. :'(
[12:47] <indus> Mechdave: cool
[12:47] <Gnea> JessicaParker: if you mean, by amend, to edit and save settings to the current xorg.conf file, then yes, that is possible. i've done it for years, when necessary (used to be necessary ALL the time, back when it wasn't so fancy ;) ), and it can still be done - the nice thing, today, is that if you goof it up, you can still revert with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:47] <martinom> Of course, I'm able to do stuff with my screen looking the way it does now... But it's f***ing irritating.
[12:47] <indus> Mechdave: can you share how you got it solved
[12:47] <Gnea> JessicaParker: understood
[12:47] <sacarlson> martinom: well did you try nvidia.com latest driver release NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.04-pkg2.run
[12:47] <mater> if anybody can help me out on rootkit problem and reinstalling ubuntu, please join #rootkit. there is too much traffic here, i can't follow it
[12:48] <advance> rdw200169:  Dude you have to specify what partition on what hardrive it is on once in the GRUB menu http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm?page=6
[12:48] <Radtoo> mater: You can. "Manually edit partition table" at worst
[12:48] <martinom> sacarlson: Hmm... I guess I'm currently running 180 or something.
[12:48] <martinom> Wouldn't hurt to try.
[12:48] <oxbow> slt
[12:48] <stargazer84> hello
[12:48] <indus> mater:boot from live cd >open terminal >type sudo grub
[12:48] <oxbow> ya des french ici ?
[12:48] <JessicaParker> Gnea: any ideas on the change / addition required ?
[12:48] <sacarlson> martinom:  try that if you really have to have the real thing working before you give up
[12:48] <Blinkiz> Hi there. I need to mount a logical volume on my host system. The logical volume contains multiply partition so its not that easy as just doing "mount". Can someone help me with this? If I remember correctly, its something with loop.
[12:48] <Mechdave> indus, yeah just rebooted and restarted live disk
[12:49] <martinom> sacarlson: Mhm.
[12:49] <oxbow> erf
[12:49] <martinom> sacarlson: But that's the beta driver?
[12:49] <sacarlson> martinom:  and tell me how it goes.  if it works I'll do it too
[12:49] <indus> Mechdave: cheers
[12:49] <indus> :)
[12:49] <Radtoo> oxbow: surely but everybody talks english. try #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <martinom> Bah, forgot to run irssi in screen.
[12:49] <martinom> bbl
[12:49] <oxbow> ok
[12:49] <sacarlson> martinom:  ya so beta test it we know the 180 fails to work
[12:50] <sacarlson> martinom:  other wise live with nv
[12:50] <dostoyevsky> Hello
[12:50] <martinom> w00t
[12:50] <Gnea> JessicaParker: the best way to learn, is to first make a backup of your important data - hopefully you have done that already, but if you're nervous about screwing your whole system up, I would highly recommend getting the important things taken care of first.
[12:50] <dostoyevsky> How can I remove all my wlan passwords from ubuntu?
[12:51] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: there's many ways you could have saved them...
[12:51] <h-kan> hi folks... anyone know anything about hald
[12:51] <sacarlson> wlan passwors?
[12:51] <JessicaParker> Gnea: ok after i have done that ? is there a line that can be added to identify the primary and secondary monitro in the xorg file ? thanks
[12:51] <rdw200169> advance, i'm referring to this: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html
[12:51] <Ubuntus> Hi everyone!
[12:51] <sacarlson> dostoyevsky: maybe you mean keys?
[12:51] <dostoyevsky> Radtoo: It's in the password manager...
[12:51] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: if its an individual applcation, the most safe way might to just delete its configuration in your home directory?
[12:51] <error404notfound> i just upgraded a machine from intrepid to jaunty and i can't open a terminal or do an ssh to it: http://pastebin.com/m640a1cac
[12:52] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: Okay. Doesn't it support deleting entries?
[12:52] <mater> hey can you guy help me out on trying to boot from old ubuntu? join the #rootkit, there is way too much traffic here
[12:52] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: It's "gpass", right?
[12:52] <Gnea> JessicaParker: there are a number of resources out there, but I recommend starting with these and googling from there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=806904 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652745 http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html
[12:52] <h-kan> im running on tty1 and when i plug in an usb key I got stdout messages on tty1 about the devices and I want to turn it off.
[12:53] <Gnea> JessicaParker: also, the manpage for xrandr is well written
[12:53] <Ubuntus> Maybe someone can help me please
[12:53] <JessicaParker> Gnea: thanks for the pointers i will look over these now
[12:53] <rdw200169> !ask | Ubuntus
[12:53] <Gnea> JessicaParker: cheers, good luck
[12:53] <Mechdave> Ubuntus, ask your question :)
[12:53] <dostoyevsky> Is gnome standard on ubuntu?
[12:53] <drkimble> buntus get on with it
[12:53] <dostoyevsky> I thint it's the gnome password manager
[12:54] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: gnome keyring?
[12:54] <drkimble> :)
[12:54] <rdw200169> drkimble, i think someone has watched too much Monty Python (wait that's impossible...)
[12:54] <dostoyevsky> Ahh... it's seahorse
[12:54] <drkimble> lol
[12:54]  * drkimble utubes
[12:54] <mater> k, one more tim: i have ubuntu installed. but i can't boot from it cause my primary loader is bad
[12:55] <dostoyevsky> I can delete the password there yes, but it doesn't go away... :-(
[12:55] <indus> mater
[12:55] <indus> mater:
[12:55] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: k, problem solved? :)
[12:55] <Ubuntus> I'm trying to install a Proxy Server, with Ubuntu Server 9.04, but I'm having many troubles...
[12:56] <indus> Blinkiz: hi
[12:56] <Radtoo> Ubuntus: a proxy for... http?
[12:56] <peppot> how to open a second console in recovery netroot?
[12:56] <Ubuntus> I used Squid 3.0, Sarg, Dansguardian and Two ethernet adapters
[12:56] <sacarlson> Ubuntus: what proxy server did you install?
[12:56] <Ubuntus> yes...
[12:56] <Radtoo> peppot: "screen" lets you have many "consoles" in one session, but perhaps alt-f2 also works to switch to another terminal?
[12:57] <peppot> Radtoo: it only opens one by default
[12:57] <peppot> Radtoo: need to have many to paste across etc
[12:57] <peppot> anyone know?
[12:57] <peppot> more consoles in recovery mode?
[12:57] <sacarlson> Ubuntus: I did it before long ago squid
[12:58] <Ubuntus> I was planning to control the internet access but, I have failed to make it run...
[12:58] <dostoyevsky> Radtoo: I deleted the password in seahorse but when I try to connect to my wlan it will still try to use the password that I just deleted..  It won't use the password I entered in the dialoge...  I see a timeout and then I get "Authentication require by wireless network'  If I click on '[ ] show password' there, I see that it's still using the old password...
[12:59] <iBoar> Is there anyone konws how to organize my tor ,I still can not connect Youtube here.
[12:59] <dostoyevsky> I was thinking of maybe doing the wlan connect in a shell script instead of using gnome...
[12:59] <sacarlson> Ubuntus:  you mean restrict access with password or?
[13:00] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: hm. hard to say if something went wrong or if it's not really managed the way we think either way. :)
[13:00] <nnull> iBoar, public exit nodes are kinda useless for alot of things like http, 3 lines of php can detect if your coming out through a public listed node
[13:01] <nnull> (which youtube,google etc probably have implemented)
[13:01] <dostoyevsky> Yeah... I remember that there's people on ubuntuforums who have similar problems and no real solution...  It seems like seahorse and gnome-key-manager are incompatible in some way or another...
[13:01] <Radtoo> iBoar: Its hard to get Tor right and impractical for videos, torrent, etc...
[13:01] <c0p3rn1c> how would I download this key from the terminal ? http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB9F1C432AE74AE63  wget doesnt work
[13:01] <error404notfound> anyone who could help me with: http://pastebin.com/m640a1cac
[13:01] <Radtoo> iBoar: These are fairly high-volume transfers and you'll find it's a pain to use tor for these either way, if its not outright blocked by the other end
[13:01] <Ubuntus> No. its just to control the internet access and define the blocked content
[13:01] <dostoyevsky> But if I knew where gnome stores the passwords (the file) then maybe I could delete it...
[13:01] <nnull> it's unethical to torrent via public nodes..
[13:02] <Radtoo> nnull: not everyone's ethics, apparently...
[13:02] <susscorfa> is there a way to change the default editor from gedit to gvim ?
[13:03] <susscorfa> it is not in prefered apps
[13:03] <JockyWilson> Weather applet Ubuntu 9.04 click on Forecast and = "Forecast not currently available for this location." Is there a fix ?
[13:03] <Radtoo> susscorfa: basically, changing file associations in gnome?
[13:03] <rdw200169> susscorfa, does it open gedit from the command line?
[13:03] <c0p3rn1c> susscorfa: just right click and choose open with, and make sure after you select your app from the list that you check use costum command
[13:03] <Blinkiz> indus, Hi to you too
[13:03] <nnull> yea open with ftw
[13:04] <rdw200169> susscorfa, b/c you can use update-alternatives to set the default editor for the command line, using: $ update-alternatives editor
[13:04] <susscorfa> c0p3rn1c: means i have to set it for every extention seperatly
[13:04] <dostoyevsky> Hmm... I have some files having 'keyring' in their name below  ~/.gconf/ and one below ~/.gnome2/.  Maybe I try to delete them
[13:04] <ruadh> Can anyone recommend a good photo editor along the lines of Photoshop Elements ?
[13:04] <susscorfa> rdw200169: i want to set the gui editor and not the cli  editor
[13:04] <c0p3rn1c> susscorfa: I don't know how to script it sorry
[13:04] <Radtoo> susscorfa: /etc/gnome/defaults.list ~/.local/share/applications/ also might work
[13:04] <pronoy_> ruadh: The Gimp
[13:04] <Radtoo> ruadh: gimp, krita, ...
[13:04] <pronoy_> ruadh: the best !!
[13:04] <martinom> sacarlson: Driver didn't help.
[13:05] <rdw200169> susscorfa, whoops, meant: update-alternatives --config editor
[13:05] <ruadh> thanks, pronoy_ and Radtoo
[13:05] <c0p3rn1c> why can't wget download this key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB9F1C432AE74AE63
[13:05] <susscorfa> Radtoo: thx im gone give that a try
[13:06] <c0p3rn1c> I'm getting a http 500 error code
[13:06] <iBoar> Does gnome own the same thing to organize My
[13:06] <iBoar> Does gnome own the same thing to organize My Photos ,like digikama in KDE?
[13:07] <Radtoo> c0p3rn1c: same. are you sure the link is good and all?
[13:07] <c0p3rn1c> Radtoo: yes
[13:07] <pronoy_> iBoar: it has fspot
[13:07] <iBoar> pronoy_, like picasa?
[13:08] <rdw200169> susscorfa, don't forget my suggestion, just remember it, one day the whole update-alternatives system will prove useful to you ;)
[13:08] <dostoyevsky> Radtoo: I deleted those keyring directories...  I still see the password being used...
[13:08] <susscorfa> ok thx rdw200169
[13:08] <pronoy_> iBoar: picasa would offer a multitude of other options other than just organizing........fspot will organize upload and stuff
[13:08] <pronoy_> iBoar: if you need a decent photo editor i suggest GIMP its the best i have come across yet
[13:09] <iBoar> pronoy_, hmm,ths
[13:09] <pronoy_> !timidity
[13:09] <armando> alguem do rj
[13:10] <pronoy_> man....
[13:10] <drkimble> ruadh: gimp is the best linux has to offer
[13:10] <drkimble> good too
[13:10] <Chiliblue> x files
[13:10] <tomlee263> who knows ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix?
[13:10] <drkimble> just not good as but hey man, understand the money involved
[13:11] <hittt> I dont like netbook remix
[13:11] <pirolocito> tomlee263, i knew 8.10 netbook
[13:11] <pirolocito> i dont like
[13:11] <pirolocito> and in my 701 become slow
[13:11] <tomlee263> pirolocito:hehe.
[13:11] <gharz> guys, i've just run rm -fr foo.bar ... is there a way that i can recover that file?
[13:11] <Ubuntus> I installed ubuntu server and configured two ethernet cards, with the eth0 being used to connect and  eth2 to access the internet.
[13:12] <gharz> please help
[13:12] <hittt> well
[13:12] <hittt> no
[13:12] <drkimble> ruadh: www.gimp.org
[13:12] <Guest34988> hi guys i would like to know if a process running on my system runs on a single cpu or both the two cpu of my desktop.....how can i know it????
[13:12] <hittt> there are very rare linux file recovery
[13:12] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, have you tested your router/proxy/switch *without* squid running?
[13:12] <pronoy_> gharz: nopew
[13:12] <gharz> nopew? tha's the command?
[13:12] <drkimble> actually why these top software dont do linux releases as well baffles me, would not cut into profits at all
[13:13] <hittt> and even if there are, journaled fs kills it
[13:13] <pirolocito> Guest34988, run top
[13:13] <pronoy_> gharz: thats the answer NOPE
[13:13] <gharz> ahhh
[13:13] <gharz> oh my god
[13:13] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, in order to control access you don't *have* to use a proxy. there are other options, like coova-chilli
[13:13] <gharz> thanks!
[13:13] <hittt> np
[13:13] <Guest34988> top doesn't tell me this information
[13:13] <Boohbah> drkimble: because it takes valuable developers
[13:13] <pronoy_> gharz: u see unix platform has the best security ...rm -r is the command which leaves no traces
[13:13] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, consequentially, using something like that also gives you similar options like bandwidth/volume control etc... but its not easy.  well, i guess you could say, its just as difficult
[13:14] <indus> gharz: its possible but in theory
[13:14] <hittt> well
[13:14] <hittt> shred isfor security :P
[13:14] <drkimble> Boohbah:  but they make loads, code is there, all they have to do is port I guess
[13:14] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: yes, guess it's stored elsewhere then but I don't know where, sorry. :/
[13:15] <dostoyevsky> How do I connect to a wlan in the unix shell, what's the program called?  I think it was something like ifwconfig or so...
[13:15] <Boohbah> drkimble: which is not always as simple as it sounds
[13:15] <hittt> iwconfig?
[13:15] <hittt> ifconfig?
[13:15] <drkimble> Boohbah: the real reason is they just do not want people to use Linux par se
[13:15] <drkimble> I reckons anyways
[13:15] <Ubuntus> i am accessing the internet on server, even with squid intalled, but when i try to connect some pc on the eth0, the connection fails
[13:16] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, i consider chilli + firewall to be %1000 times more secure than something more fallible like squid... chilli uses standardized access control mechanisms in order to control access, and is very popular in the linux-router world...
[13:16] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, have you made sure that forwarding is enabled?
[13:16] <AdvoWork> anyone here know what logs to look in for all emails coming in from a certain sender email?
[13:16] <drkimble> ms control thing I reckon
[13:16] <indus> gharz: http://adminlinux.blogspot.com/2006/09/recover-from-rm.html
[13:16] <dostoyevsky> Yeah, iwconfig it seems to be...  Yeah, will try to do this in a shell script...   Maybe I find a nice description how I can do all the things that gnome usually does from the shell
[13:16] <drkimble> Borg, resistance is futile and all that
[13:17] <pronoy_> indus: does this really work
[13:17] <advance> Hey how do I get an X11 ID?
[13:17] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, ensure that this file has a 1 in it: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:17] <pronoy_> indus: because it defies all what i have read and seen up till now
[13:17] <advance> For some window?
[13:17] <hittt> dostoyevsky, gnome does less than a shell
[13:17] <indus> pronoy_: well this world is full of surprises
[13:18] <pronoy_> indus: yeah you just did scream SURPRISE at my face ..... :D
[13:18] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: I can explain the used technologies to some extent. iwconfig for setting the essid or WEP, but WPA/WPA2 is usually done using wpa_supplicant.
[13:18] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, I'm assuming of course that your networking configuration and all that are appropriate
[13:18] <indus> pronoy_: the fact is>> unless new data writes to that portion of hard drive, it isnt really deleted
[13:18] <AdvoWork> can i search all log files in /var/log for certain text?
[13:19] <hittt> yes
[13:19] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, consequentially, you may also need to set up NAT using iptables
[13:19] <indus> pronoy_: its somethin to do with the way a hard drive stores data in nodes
[13:19] <Boohbah> AdvoWork: grep text /var/log/*
[13:19] <hittt> hes fast D:
[13:19] <drkimble> AdvoWork: sure
[13:19] <pronoy_> indus: oh yes i think i knew that.......but i never knew there was a way to recover it ... i just know it how to do that using hardware resensetizers
[13:19] <Proteus> yo all
[13:19] <indus> pronoy_: google is great >but it seems complicated though
[13:19] <Boohbah> !hi | Proteus
[13:20] <Ubuntus> I used some commands like ==> modprobe iptable_nat ==>modprobe ip_nat_ftp ==>echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward==>iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth -j MASQUERADE ==> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128
[13:20] <hittt> what is the difference between "su" and "su -" ???
[13:20] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: Should make it a bit easier to understand any howto / tutorial you might stumble upon now, as this is a bit non-obivous a thing. also, running iwconfig, wpa_supplicant and then dhcpcd  from the command line (provided correct configuration for wpa_supplicant is present) already usually does the job for the simple scenarios.
[13:20] <Boohbah> hittt: the minus reads the profile
[13:20] <Guest34988> how to know how many cpu is being used by a process??
[13:20] <pronoy_> indus: sure thing .....thanks
[13:20] <hittt> thx!
[13:20] <dostoyevsky> Radtoo: According to my route I am using WPA-PSK, so wpa_supplicant might be what I need to use
[13:20] <indus> hittt: only su means a command and su - means you are about to give some option to su
[13:20] <hittt> yea
[13:20] <hittt> but with su
[13:21] <pronoy_> !sudo | hittt
[13:21] <hittt> i wansnt able to modify some kernel things
[13:21] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, hmm... looks good so far...
[13:21] <indus> hittt:just like , hittt is your name, but hittt -please smile is something u do
[13:21] <indus> :)
[13:21] <hittt> :)
[13:21] <indus> hittt: kernel things <gulp>
[13:21] <hittt> lol
[13:21] <indus> su is switch user i believe
[13:21] <indus> su -i
[13:22] <hittt> yes
[13:22] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: it almost certainly is used... I think all the drivers that had some exotic way of setting up wpa are out of the kernel now
[13:22] <hittt> but just su
[13:22] <hittt> is root
[13:22] <Radtoo> Guest34988: I like htop (command line application)... :)
[13:22] <indus> hittt: ya it wont work mostly cos we dont have root user
[13:22] <hittt> su root, sudo -i, sudo su , sudo su root
[13:23] <hittt> gotta check sudo su root!
[13:23] <Pici> hittt: you cannot su to root if the root account is locked, like it is on Ubuntu.
[13:23] <indus> hittt: do a sudo su
[13:23] <hittt> pici:I unlocked it
[13:23] <cybersplice> hittt: if you want to su  to root, use sudo -s. If you really want to su to root directly, sudo -s, then passwd to set a root password.
[13:23] <indus> you get a root terminal
[13:23] <drkimble> will Ubuntu ever give root back to us?
[13:23] <hittt> indus: i am bored of sudo su
[13:23] <indus> hittt: iam bored of sudo :)
[13:23] <Boohbah> drkimble: my ubuntu has a root user with a password
[13:24] <Radtoo> Guest34988: but well, most people would use gnome system monitor. or something.
[13:24] <drkimble> ooh :)
[13:24] <hittt> mine too
[13:24] <drkimble> care to share
[13:24] <indus> Boohbah: arent we supposed to add that to etc sudoers?
[13:24] <Pici> We do not support having a root password
[13:24] <indus> Pici: Ya
[13:24] <Pici> !wfm
[13:24] <cybersplice> indus: sudo -s, then passwd to set a password on the root account.
[13:24] <drkimble> my server is DEb etch and always has been and will be till I get root in Bunt :)
[13:24] <Pici> !ot
[13:25] <indus> cybersplice: thanks let me try
[13:25] <hittt> passwd $USER    to set your own password?
[13:25] <wart> Hi.  I'm installing easypeasy as a first time ubuntu user.  I'm currently running gentoo and noted that the installation program unetbootbin-eeeubuntu* requires all sorts of packages.  Can't I just use dd to write the iso file to a usb stick?
[13:25] <Boohbah> Pici: that's fine, i didn't ask for support :)
[13:25] <indus> cybersplice: but i always use sudo su and use root terminal
[13:26] <drkimble> ooh :)
[13:26] <drkimble> lol
[13:26] <indus> sudo -s is same i think
[13:26] <indus> baah never mind
[13:26] <gdf> http://www.Marie-gets-Deflowered.com/?id=d31c9d59
[13:26] <drkimble> is there a Bunt chat?
[13:26] <pronoy_> gdf ???
[13:27] <drkimble> !chat
[13:27] <indus> lol
[13:27] <Gnea> drive-by spam
[13:27] <hittt> X-Chat ftw
[13:27] <luis> hey how can i put avant window navigator on top of the screen?
[13:27] <Bodsda> Hi, i started removing gnome packages to get just fluxbox, I used this as a guide -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE#Remove%20Ubuntu%20Packages -- unfortunately I know have lost the use of sound, does anyone have any ideas what package/s need to be reinstalled to regain my sound?
[13:27] <cybersplice> indus: Yes, sudo -s is the same as sudo su. If you really want to set a password on the root account, you can do so with passwd. You'll find, however, that neither canonical or #ubuntu will support that. It's not really needed for most things.
[13:27] <illsci> how do you change the default python version on ubuntu?
[13:27] <illsci> do you use pycentral or somethign like that
[13:28] <indus> cybersplice: because i used system password and got root account
[13:28] <hittt> is Gobuntu crap?
[13:28] <drkimble> what is gobuntu?
[13:28] <indus> cybersplice: hmm so just typing su in terminal needs root password hmm
[13:28] <utakbiya> hello...why is gyachi improved version cant use voice chat or something
[13:28] <cybersplice> Doesn't exist aymore, does it?
[13:28] <hittt> GNU ubuntu
[13:28] <hittt> I think
[13:28] <indus> cybersplice: no wonder i couldnt log in
[13:28] <cybersplice> indus: you need to set a root password before you can use it.
[13:28] <cybersplice> indus: Exactly.
[13:29] <indus> cybersplice: can you tell me that root pasword step again
[13:29] <popey> !gobuntu
[13:29] <Bodsda> i didnt think we were allowed to tell people how to set a root password...?
[13:30] <popey> indus: you dont need a root password, you can use "sudo -i" to switch to a root like terminal
[13:30] <kyle_> hey can anybody help me loading emerald on jaunty
[13:30] <hittt> what was the command to clean the trash??? sudo rm -rf Trash:///
[13:30] <hittt> ?
[13:30] <drkimble> so many flavours I dont know which I like best
[13:30] <pronoy_> kyle_: what's the problem?
[13:30] <popey> !ops hittt
[13:30] <hittt> kyle_: whats the problem
[13:30] <luis> hey how can i put avant window navigator on top of the screen?
[13:30] <hittt> D:
[13:31] <Bodsda> luis: you can set things like that in awn-manager#
[13:31] <Ubuntus> Anyway, i am using  the eth2 to connect with internet now, and i connected an ADSL modem on eth0 and it worked very well, so there's no problem with my network cards, i think
[13:31] <Bodsda> luis: you can set things like that in awn-manager
[13:31] <kyle_> i dont know how to load it... i got emerald manager and compiz manager and i dont know what to do next
[13:31] <drkimble> luis: that should be simple, just check prefs/opts
[13:31] <hittt> ummm
[13:31] <cybersplice> indus: You can sudo -s to get a root terminal, then set the password with the command passwd. I'd reinforce the comments of others that you really shouldn't set a root password or use the root account unless you know precicely what you're doing. :)
[13:31] <popey> !root | indus
[13:32] <Bodsda> cybersplice: and if he knew precisely what he is doing, he wouldnt need to ask how to do it
[13:32] <indus> popey: i know i know
[13:32] <pronoy_> kyle_: download an emerald theme select it
[13:32] <cybersplice> Bodsda: People need to learn somehow. ;)
[13:32] <pronoy_> kyle_: and issue this command in the terminal emerald --replace
[13:32] <indus> cybersplice: using sudo -s immediately asks for password ? how do i set it then
[13:32] <kyle_> okay give me a sec to do that
[13:32] <Bodsda> cybersplice: true, but i dont think we are allowed to tell people that in here
[13:32] <drkimble> whats this no root unless you know what your doing rubbish
[13:33] <Bodsda> indus: it is asking for the sudo password not the root password
[13:33] <indus> no no no
[13:33] <Bodsda> drkimble: its not rubbish its common sense
[13:33] <pronoy_> kyle_: if you want that emerald should be permanent window decorater you can go to sessions and add a new session having the command emerald --replace and make it run at startup
[13:33] <Ubuntus> I have tested the network adapters and they are working
[13:33] <drkimble> if someone does not know linux its hard enough for him her to get to root lol
[13:33] <Bodsda> Hi, i started removing gnome packages to get just fluxbox, I used this as a guide -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE#Remove%20Ubuntu%20Packages -- unfortunately I know have lost the use of sound, does anyone have any ideas what package/s need to be reinstalled to regain my sound?
[13:33] <luis> Bodsda: cant find this option inside awn-manager :P
[13:33] <popey> Bodsda: artsd?
[13:34] <pronoy_> luis: i don't think there is one in awn-manager.....hang on i'll check again
[13:34] <drkimble> and if anyone comes across root, it will be through a warning
[13:34] <indus> aah yes
[13:34] <Bodsda> popey: whats artsd?
[13:34] <popey> !info artsd
[13:34] <popey> bah
[13:34] <Bodsda> !find artsd
[13:34] <drkimble> or used to be
[13:34] <hittt> !info ccsm
[13:34] <hittt> weird
[13:34] <Bodsda> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | hitt
[13:35] <popey> or simple-ccsm
[13:35] <hittt> D:
[13:35] <bentob0x> why can't I listen to Amarok and watching a Flash video at the same time (well, the video works but not the sound)?
[13:35] <drkimble> who ever uses root and knows jack about it is not important anyway, ceratinly no sysadmin
[13:35] <indus> cybersplice: heh i figured it our
[13:35] <cybersplice> indus: Good. Remember we won't be able to help you if you break it. :)
[13:35] <Bodsda> drkimble: we do not assume everyone is a sysadmin, and personal views about who should be doing what are not really on topic for this channel, #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to talk to people about that please
[13:36] <indus> cybersplice: what can i break?
[13:36] <Ubuntus> I installed Squid3.0STABLE14, plus removed and reinstalled but i can't connect another machines on my server
[13:36] <Bodsda> indus: everything
[13:36] <drkimble> we need a new Ubuntu release, no root or with root lol
[13:36] <Bodsda> !ot | drkimble
[13:36] <indus> cybersplice: we can break everyhing with sudo also no?
[13:36] <xand> matx: tut
[13:36] <Bodsda> indus: yes
[13:36] <matx> sup xand
[13:36] <drkimble> Bodsda: ok sry
[13:36] <cybersplice> indus: You can break the whole system. In theory, you could delete every file in the operating system.
[13:36] <xand> :P
[13:36] <mrefg> hai
[13:36] <Bodsda> drkimble: thank you
[13:36] <drkimble> :)
[13:36] <cybersplice> indus: Correct.
[13:36] <bird> hello
[13:36] <mrefg> How do I install ubuntu onto windows vista?
[13:36] <indus> like rm -rm and you know what :P
[13:36] <Bodsda> !hi | bird
[13:37] <hittt> well
[13:37] <hittt> *
[13:37] <indus> i mean rm - rf
[13:37] <hittt>  /
[13:37] <indus> sorry rm -rf
[13:37] <mrefg> How do I install ubuntu onto windows vista?
[13:37] <Bodsda> indus: please dont write that whole command
[13:37] <pronoy_> luis: sorry to be the bearer of bad news....but you can't change its position
[13:37] <indus> i didnt say it hittt did
[13:37] <Bodsda> !wubi | mrefg
[13:37] <pronoy_> luis: you can try cairo-dock instead
[13:37] <hittt> nor did I
[13:37] <hittt> I said /
[13:37] <indus> Bodsda: yes iam awarre i didnt
[13:37] <kyle_> it worked thanks
[13:37] <mrefg> ok
[13:37] <luis> pronoy_: thanks
[13:37] <indus> nor did he :)
[13:37] <mrefg> where do I get ubuntu from
[13:37] <drkimble> I just like to argue sometimes, breaks the day here abit
[13:37] <hittt> :)
[13:37] <Radtoo> mrefg: "over"... can't really do it as such. You can install it besides, or instead of vista.
[13:37] <indus> iam a responsible chap
[13:37] <pronoy_> mrefg: shipit.ubuntu.com
[13:37] <kyle_> which file do i put in the startup programs for emerald
[13:37] <indus> cybersplice: thanks a lot , learnt a few things
[13:38] <pirolocito> mrefg, www.ubuntu.com
[13:38] <mrefg> I heard gentoo is better then ubuntu
[13:38] <pronoy_> kyle_: go to sessions
[13:38] <Bodsda> indus: hittt -- Still, that command, whether intended as a joke or not, is not welcome in this channel
[13:38] <mrefg> is this true?
[13:38] <drkimble> and help where I can I might add
[13:38] <frybye> mrefg: how do you mean "install into-" you mean a dual-boot option or what?
[13:38] <Bodsda> mrefg: define better
[13:38] <indus> which one the remove one?
[13:38] <Radtoo> mrefg: Not if you have to ask.
[13:38] <hittt> Bodsda: rm ....... is not a jole
[13:38] <pirolocito> mrefg, i heard volkswagen was better than opel
[13:38] <ikonia> mrefg: thats personal opinion see what works for you
[13:38] <mrefg> everything is faster and stabler
[13:38] <H_M-Ubuntu> "[08:37:42 AM] <drkimble> I just like to argue sometimes, breaks the day here abit" Isn't that the definition of a troll?... Kidding! Kidding.
[13:38] <hittt> *joke
[13:38] <indus> Bodsda: its a generic command
[13:38] <kyle_> cant find it is it in the emerald manager window
[13:38] <ikonia> hittt: if you could cut down on the gags please, this is a pretty busy channel as you can see
[13:38] <drkimble> I am not a troll
[13:38] <mrefg> do you get hacking programs with ubuntu
[13:38] <Bodsda> hittt: no it is not, it is a useful tool, but like all tools, if used incorrectly, they are dangerous
[13:38] <drkimble> silly
[13:38] <Bodsda> mrefg: yep
[13:38] <pronoy_> kyle_: go to system > preferences > sessions
[13:39] <mrefg> cause I read on a website you get hacking programs with gentoo
[13:39] <TheZanke> how does one get a webcame to work on stickam in ubuntu? its the only thing stopping me from being 100% linux at this point
[13:39] <ikonia> mrefg: no - please read www.ubuntu.com to get an idea what ubuntu is about
[13:39] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, have you performed all the basic ping-type tests?  for example, since you're using a simple iptables redirect for the proxy, all other networking should be native to the router.  thus, you should be able to ping the server's LAN IP from a client, the server's WAN IP, etc...
[13:39] <mrefg> ikonia no
[13:39] <mrefg> read it for me and give me the answers
[13:39] <pirolocito> sometime i read, dont matter what distro you use, start with one and make it at your flavour
[13:39] <pirolocito> thats the one for you
[13:39] <ikonia> mrefg: please read the web page
[13:39] <kyle_> its not there
[13:39] <mrefg> I just want to hack this kid I don't like
[13:39] <ther3ald3al> olol
[13:39] <RedMachineD> Greetings, Linuxfaggots
[13:39] <pronoy_> kyle_: what ?? are you on ubuntu ??
[13:39] <kyle_> yes
[13:39] <mrefg> why should I know better
[13:39] <ikonia> mrefg: we ill not support that
[13:39] <mrefg> I've never been here before
[13:40] <hittt> Bodsda: I know many people that the first command they find on their path, they type it into terminal
[13:40] <Radtoo> mrefg: most distros can run the same programs without much effort, and ubuntu has a real lot of programs (like gentoo). So. Yes. you get wahtever you want I think.
[13:40] <drkimble> mrefg: you will not get far...
[13:40]  * cybersplice lubs root.
[13:40] <pronoy_> kyle_: go to system > preferences > sessions tab ......has to be there.......are you using 9.04 ?
[13:40] <frybye> mrefg - what you are looking for is on the other side of town ...
[13:40] <kyle_> yes
[13:40] <mrefg> frybye and what would that be?
[13:40] <Bodsda> hittt: then you should educate your friends to a higher standard
[13:40] <ikonia> frybye: pleaes don't feed the situation
[13:40] <TheZanke> mrefg: rm -rf /*
[13:40] <mrefg> ikonia feed what?
[13:40] <mrefg> whats that mean
[13:40] <indus> is this channel rules similar to forums? on the rm commands etc
[13:40] <drkimble> hacking someone is not nice and illegal anyways
[13:41] <mrefg> I don't know how to linux yet
[13:41] <mrefg> I just want to know which one to install
[13:41] <Bodsda> !ops | TheZanke
[13:41] <TheZanke> bawww, i was just jokingg
[13:41] <pronoy_> kyle_: yes the sessions tab or yes to the 9.04 ?
[13:41] <Bodsda> bah he left
[13:41] <Bodsda> oh no hes back
[13:41] <indus> What , he hjust said the command
[13:41] <kyle_> i have 9.04 and theres no sessions tab there
[13:41] <Bodsda> TheZanke: that command is no joke
[13:41] <mybands> !info vlc
[13:41] <ikonia> TheZanke: ok - that's not a joking matter, help people - or don't, but don't give out duff advice
[13:41] <pronoy_> kyle_: hang on
[13:41] <Radtoo> mrefg: Try ubuntu then. Its fine, in particular for first-timers.
[13:41] <indus> no kick?
[13:41] <drkimble> mrefg: Ubuntu is your best bet
[13:41] <cybersplice> TheZanke: Bit irresponsible tellin people to do that, mate.
[13:41] <mrefg> Ok
[13:41] <mybands> hehe
[13:41] <mrefg> So I go to that shipit site?
[13:42] <mybands> i cannot install some program
[13:42] <ikonia> mrefg: the info is on http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:42] <mybands> why
[13:42] <mybands> ??
[13:42] <Radtoo> mrefg: no, to www.ubuntu.com and download the iso,and install it, as per instructions provided
[13:42] <ikonia> mybands: what do you want to install
[13:42] <Dracofodder> how do I check that specific libraries are installed? am adding encryption to pidgin, and two pre-reqs are the nss/mspr libs, and also that pidgin was installed as dev to include the headers.  don't know how to verify this on ubuntu
[13:42] <mrefg> thank you.
[13:42] <giles__> !info xfce
[13:42] <mrefg> whats an iso?
[13:42] <drkimble> download if you dont want to wait
[13:42] <giles__> !info xubuntu
[13:42] <mrefg> How long will it take to download on dial up?
[13:42] <drkimble> torrent it over night if your busy
[13:42] <pronoy_> hey guys what's the alternative in jaunty for the sessions tab in intrepid ?
[13:42] <ikonia> mrefg: 700 meg - depends on your speed,
[13:42] <drkimble> breeze to install
[13:42] <indus> ok when we can do everything with sudo why do people keep asking for root account?
[13:42] <ther3ald3al> how much is ubuntu on cd