[07:17] <tepsipakki> bryce_: yes, I reopened that
[07:18] <tepsipakki> ok, so I'll merge nv and ati.. lets hope they'll make it in beta :)
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #51421 in gtk-qt-engine (main) "GTK applications leading Xorg to huge memory usage" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/51421
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #134370 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Video dosen't play correctly in Totem" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134370
[10:31] <mvo> bryce: do you think there will be anything we can do about bug #133118 ? if not I will blacklist it for compiz
[10:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133118 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "very corrupt X after suspend/resume" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133118
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144382 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "FFe: a new upstream version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144382
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #144387 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "FFe: a new upstream version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144387
[01:12] <tepsipakki> hmm, no new ati/nv for beta
[01:32] <ubotu> New bug: #105822 in xorg-server (main) "special chars mangled after switch to graphical console" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105822
[02:57] <tormod> bryce: is /etc/gdm/failsafeInstall in use? it looks broken. do you know who wrote it?
[06:50] <bryce_> tormod, I wrote it, and it's no longer in use; we can drop it now.
[06:50] <tormod> bryce, fine. the sed regexps were pretty broken.
[07:51] <mvo> bryce_: have you seen my earlier question about -intel and the texture problem after resume on i855?
[07:56] <bryce_> mvo, no I didn't
[07:57] <bryce_> mvo, I'll look into it
[07:58] <bryce_> tepsipakki: think we'll be able to get them in post-beta?
[07:58] <tepsipakki> bryce_: yes, hopefully so
[07:59] <bryce_> do you have the debs available?  we may as well put them up for testers
[08:00] <tepsipakki> I haven't built them, because our gutsy installations break on first boot for some reason
[08:01] <tepsipakki> I mean, they don't boot :)
[08:01] <tepsipakki> I think tormod has made a deb already
[08:01] <tepsipakki> of ati
[08:03] <bryce_> arg
[08:10] <bryce_> mvo, I don't know of anything simple we could do for 133118
[08:15] <mvo> bryce_: ok, I will blacklist it then for compiz I think
[08:16] <bryce_> you're blacklisting just that particular piece of hardware, or all of -intel?
[08:17] <mvo> bryce_: just the pci-id of that card
[08:17] <bryce_> ahh, ok sounds good
[08:17] <mvo> bryce_: it should also be only for intel
[08:17] <mvo> I think i810 works
[08:22] <bryce_> mvo, I didn't see it reported upstream.  If we can get logs and confs, I'll go ahead and report it upstream.
[08:22] <mvo> bryce_: ng and soren can reproduce it, it should be no problem to get good logs :)
[08:22] <bryce_> awesome
[08:30] <bryce_> tepsipakki: do you know if tormod has the .debs posted somewhere I could point to?
[08:37] <tepsipakki> bryce_: yes, the link is on the XorgOnTheEdge (or similar) wikipage
[08:38] <tepsipakki> right, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge
[08:38] <bryce_> thanks
[08:44] <bryce_> testing... brb
[08:52] <bryce_> huh, that definitely changed multi-head detection
[08:55] <tepsipakki> bryce_: the new ati?
[09:17] <ubotu> New bug: #144103 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "window title is white when window is maximized" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144103
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #139726 in xorg (main) "[Gutsy} GDM is missing menu items" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139726
[09:23] <tepsipakki> bryce_: still testing?-)
[09:24] <bryce_> yeah
[09:24] <tepsipakki> bryce_: was that last comment about the new ati?
[09:24] <bryce_> yup
[09:24] <tepsipakki> for better?
[09:25] <tepsipakki> +changed the multihead
[09:25] <bryce_> well, I'm testing dual-cards (i.e. triple-head), and it doesn't work yet
[09:25] <bryce_> dual-head works ok
[09:25] <bryce_> although I had to tweak my xorg.conf a little
[09:26] <tepsipakki> yes, static rules need that
[09:26] <bryce_> overall it's better, but there's still room to improve
[09:26] <bryce_> I've also gotten hit by the tiny font issue
[09:26] <tepsipakki> somewhere it was said that multicard support is indeed not there yet..
[09:26] <bryce_> well, tiny fonts in firefox at least
[09:28] <bryce_> http://bryceharrington.org/Photos/X/
[09:29] <bryce_> the first photo is after booting with two Screen sections
[09:29] <bryce_> the second is what happened after I went to tty1 and back
[09:29] <bryce_> third is kdm
[09:39] <tepsipakki> so the second photo looks good?
[09:49] <bryce_> yeah
[09:49] <bryce_> hmm, no compiz
[09:50] <bryce_> heya tormod
[09:50] <tormod> hi bryce
[09:50] <bryce_> tormod, I'm playing with your -ati debs :-)
[09:51] <tormod> just testing out 6.7.194 now
[09:51] <bryce_> I almost got 3 monitors - http://bryceharrington.org/Photos/X
[09:52] <tormod> wow that's some desktop :)
[09:57] <bryce_> I'm not sure exactly how you'd use xrandr to arrange the monitor on the other card, since it's got the same name as one of the other monitors
[09:59] <jcristau> from the reports we got it seems that multi-card setups are broken in xserver 1.4
[10:01] <bryce_> one other issue I've noticed since after 6.6.3 is that one monitor's display is "fainter" than it used to be.
[10:02] <bryce_> hard to describe, but it's like the contrast is turned up too high
[10:02] <bryce_> unfortunately, fiddling with the contrast and other monitor controls has no effect
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #144558 in xorg-server (main) "Mouse pointers corrupted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144558
[10:37] <tepsipakki> bryce_:
[10:37] <tepsipakki> 06:57 < benh> it still does something weird mucking with the backlight intensity
[10:37] <tepsipakki> 06:57 < benh> I suppose I'll have to fix that at one point :-)
[10:37] <tepsipakki> 07:02 -!- ctyler<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #xorg-devel
[10:37] <tepsipakki> 07:05 < agd5f> benh: i have code in the driver to control the backlight, but it seems not all  oems use the built in controls
[10:37] <tepsipakki> 07:05 < agd5f> so it's disabled at the moment
[10:37] <tepsipakki> maybe that has something to do with it
[10:39] <bryce_> hmm, maybe
[10:39] <bryce_> although the brightness isn't an issue; it's just like all the gray got taken out
[10:39] <tepsipakki> ah
[10:39] <bryce_> anyway, fortunately for xterm you don't need gray ;-)
[10:40] <bryce_> launchpad looks really weird without it though
[11:04] <tormod> bryce, I used ppa so now there's amd64 debs as well :)
[11:06] <bryce_> nice
[11:07] <bryce_> hey, does -nv have xrandr 1.2 support?  I forget
[11:07] <jcristau> bryce_: for g80, yes
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #144574 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "xserver crash with screens and graphics admin tool" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144574
[11:48] <Matir> man building a driver from git is a pita
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #144590 in xorg (main) "blank screen after start ubuntu live daily build 20070924" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144590
[12:01] <tormod> matir, I was just trying to make a script that does all that. Unfortunately it's not finished.
[12:02] <jcristau> tormod: as in git-clone ...; cd xf86-video-foo; autoreconf; ./configure --prefix=/usr; make; sudo make install?
[12:02] <tormod> Matir: anyway the ati 6.7.194 has everything from git.
[12:03] <tormod> jcristau: no, with debian patches on top like in wiki.debian.org/XTips
[12:03] <tormod> jcristau: at least make a .deb out of it.
[12:03] <jcristau> ah. yeah, that's a bit more tricky.
[12:04] <tormod> I guess I have to pull debian-experimental and not debian-unstable
[12:04] <jcristau> for testing, just building the driver and installing the _drv.so in /usr/lib/xorg/modules is usually good enough though
[12:05] <tormod> jcristau: having versioned debs is a must for letting other people do testing
[12:06] <jcristau> tormod: on your side, sure :)
[12:07] <Matir> tormod: so it's still nicely broken :)
[12:08] <tormod> Matir: you mean the ati driver?
[12:08] <Matir> yeah
[12:10] <Matir> I'm just wondering how the driver detects modes... and why it sees a mode that's unusable
[12:10] <tormod> if anyone is interested, I attached the almost-working-but-not-yet-there script to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge
[12:11] <bryce_> tormod: cool
[12:14] <tormod> good night
[12:14] <Matir> night\


[06:24] <cablesm102> I recently reported a bug in Edgy RC, and it seems to be fixed. How should I change the bug in Malone?
[06:25] <BHSPitLappy> wow, sabdfl himself
[10:07] <mhb_> if a rosetta-master comes in, tell him downloading .po files doesn't work (at all, it seems)
[10:48] <RainCT> Hi, is there any way that launchpad resend the confirmation mail for OpenPGP keys?
[10:51] <RainCT> (OK forget it, submited them again :))
[10:54] <RainCT> new question, how can I decrypt the confirmation message? :P
[11:10] <jamesh> RainCT: copy the message (including the "BEGIN PGP ..." and "END PGP ..." lines into a text editor and save it
[11:10] <jamesh> RainCT: then run "gpg --decrypt filename"
[11:10] <jamesh> it should ask you for your passphrase, then print the decrypted message
[11:15] <RainCT> ok, thank you :)
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70416 in launchpad "Gnome menu names not linked to packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70416
[03:56] <sivang> hi all
[04:30] <sivang> how can I become the owner of team someone else has created? I'm in right to own it ofcourse.
[05:07] <arf`> hi
[05:12] <arf`> someone for answering a meaningless question, from a non-english speaker?
[05:46] <asabil> how much time is required to have bzr sftp and http sync ?
[05:52] <asabil> anyone please?
[06:20] <ddaa> asabil: usually about 10 mins
[06:20] <ddaa> I mean, usually less than 10 mins
[06:20] <asabil> ok thanks
[06:21] <ddaa> if it takes more time, please tell me.
[06:27] <asabil> no it's okey now
[06:47] <carlos> morning
[07:21] <carlos> stub: could you review the sql patch at https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/carlos/launchpad/bug-68014-step2/full-diff ?
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70470 in rosetta "If plural form formula is different on import, set the fuzzy flag" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70470
[08:13] <SteveA> good morning
[08:14] <malcc> Morning Steve
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70476 in launchpad "There is no way to reactivate expired team membership" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70476
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #70500 in rosetta "en_GB translation is complete, but stats say "Untranslated: 995"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/70500


[03:31] <james_w> rock!
[03:32] <james_w> new fridge mockups :-)
[05:24] <boredandblogging> james_w: yeah, nand is kicking butt
[15:40] <tyche> Morning, kennymc0
[15:45] <kennymc0> morning
[15:45] <tyche> How goes it?
[15:45] <kennymc0> it goes alright
[15:45] <kennymc0> just finished putting everything that i normally do into the uwn
[15:46] <kennymc0> would have done it last night before i went to bed but it said that johnc4510 was still in it
[15:46] <tyche> Great.  Now all we have to do is wait for myrtlebeachbums.
[15:47] <kennymc0> i was working on it while watching saturday night live
[15:47] <kennymc0> with Neil Patrick Harris hosting
[15:47] <tyche> Oh, DEAR.  Maybe I should check it, then.  Hee hee
[15:47] <kennymc0> :)
[15:47] <kennymc0> ROFL
[15:48] <kennymc0> well i'm going to go get myself some breakfast bbl
[15:49] <tyche> Yea, I'd done a bunch of work yesterday, but there were holes (things I didn't know how to handle).  Went out on errands with my wife (and supper), and when I got back johnc4510 had beat me to them ALL.
[15:50] <kennymc0> lol
[16:09] <LirazSiri> Hi, I'd like to try and do the security and package updates for this issue. Who usually handles that? (I'd like to prevent duplicated effort)
[16:11] <tyche> LirazSiri: They're already done for this issue.  And the best way to get involved is to get trained.  We have certain procedures that help make the job simpler and more consistent.
[16:11] <LirazSiri> tyche: who usually does that?
[16:11] <tyche> If you'd like to get involved, I'd be happy to share my knowledge with you.
[16:12] <tyche> kennymc0 is doing them, at present.
[16:12] <LirazSiri> does he always handle them?
[16:12] <tyche> Since he started, yes.  Before that, there have been others including myself
[16:13] <LirazSiri> let's say I want to pick up that role, by what time should I have that ready?
[16:14] <tyche> The whole package that includes Security and Updates is usually done as LATE as possible, to include information on the whole week.  The whole package includes not only Security and Updates but Upcoming Meetings and the Statistics.
[16:14] <LirazSiri> statistics such as?
[16:15] <tyche> The work involved in it takes anywhere from 2 to 4 hours, usually.  Sometimes longer.
[16:15] <tyche> The Ubuntu Stats include Bug Stats, Translation Stats, and 5-a-day bug stats
[16:16] <LirazSiri> Well, I volunteer to take care of the security and updates section. I've taken a look at the 4 last issues and I think I can handle that. As for training, I propose to prepare the security and updates section for today independently and then submit that to you for review. If it's satisfactory I can begin doing this regulary
[16:17] <LirazSiri> does that sound ok?
[16:17] <tyche> When I started with the UWN, I developed a text file template that we use to help find where the information is, and how to present it.  You might be better off letting me go through that with you, so you understand the job.  I have no doubt that you can pick up a lot on your own, but it's better to have the whole picture.
[16:19] <LirazSiri> tyche: thanks but I don't want to waste your time unnecessarily. You sent me the template a few weeks ago. What works best for me when I'm learning is to first try and figure out things on my own and then have someone more experienced give me feedback and complete the picture.
[16:19] <LirazSiri> ok?
[16:21] <tyche> LirazSiri: You wouldn't be wasting my time.  It's part of what I do.  Besides, I'm retired, and my time is my own.
[16:23] <tyche> Also, since I'm only an associate editor, I'd have to get direction from johnc4510 and boredandblogging as to what section(s) you should take over.
[16:23] <LirazSiri> tyche: ok, I'll go and do my homework, and be back when I have something for you to review. I'll also send you wiki text by email (I prepare it in a text editor).
[16:24] <LirazSiri> that's ok, I've talked with Nick and he has urged me to get more involved, so I think we'll figure it out.
[16:25] <LirazSiri> cheers. I'll be back soon
[16:29]  * myrtlebeachbums is alive and jumping into UWN 124 now. :)
[16:29] <tyche> myrtlebeachbums: Morning.
[16:29] <tyche> Glad to see you could get up so early.  Hee hee
[16:29] <myrtlebeachbums> Good morning.
[16:34] <myrtlebeachbums> Well you know me on weekends tyche ;)
[16:34] <tyche> Yep.  That's why I said "up so early".  It isn't noon, yet.  hee hee
[16:34] <myrtlebeachbums> Exactly!
[16:41] <johnc4510> morning -news
[16:42] <tyche> Yea, but by the time it gets out, it's evening -news.  Hee hee
[16:43] <johnc4510> lol
[16:43] <myrtlebeachbums> Is Dan Rather joining our team?
[16:43] <johnc4510> tyche: did you look over the jono piece on good people, great teams
[16:43] <johnc4510> ?
[16:43] <myrtlebeachbums> Bad "Evening News with Dan Rather" joke.
[16:43] <johnc4510> kennymc0: ping
[16:43] <johnc4510> lol
[16:44] <tyche> Naw, we don't aspire that high.  With us, we just use all the news that print to fit.
[16:44] <tyche> Yea, I read it over, then you beat me to it.
[16:44] <tyche> Besides, I like yours better.
[16:44] <johnc4510> ah ok
[16:45] <johnc4510> i wasn't sure, the piece was written a bit differently
[16:47] <johnc4510> anyone working on the edubuntu meeting minutes??
[16:47] <johnc4510> if not i'll jump in there
[16:47] <johnc4510> ??
[17:03] <johnc4510> brb
[17:08] <johnc4510> back
[17:09] <johnc4510> tyche: ping
[17:09] <myrtlebeachbums> TTL expired in transit ;)
[17:10] <johnc4510> :)
[17:30] <johnc4510> myrtlebeachbums: don't forget to add your credit to the issue :)
[17:31] <myrtlebeachbums> Will do.
[17:31] <johnc4510> k
[17:31] <myrtlebeachbums> Working on the last ITP article now and will post. I'm definitely up for ideas on how to revise the "What Ubuntu Must Do" article, but I like the way the others worked out. Youll see soon.
[17:35] <johnc4510> cool
[17:40] <myrtlebeachbums> ITP pasted in.
[17:43] <johnc4510> thx
[17:48] <johnc4510> ok, the welcome and In this Issue is up
[17:49] <johnc4510> proof readers now appreciated
[17:49] <johnc4510> no pay of course
[17:49] <johnc4510> :)
[17:49] <tyche> *-I'm going through and proofing, and checking for glossary terms now.
[17:49] <johnc4510> lol
[17:49] <johnc4510> great minds
[17:49] <johnc4510> well, mine anyway hee hee
[17:50] <tyche> Thank you for acknowledging the fact . . . that mine is great, I mean.
[17:50] <johnc4510> lol
[17:50] <johnc4510> i took it back shortly after lol
[17:50] <tyche> No, you only TRIED to take it back.  Hee hee
[17:50] <johnc4510> ah
[18:01] <boredandblogging> just a reminder to everyone, please don't include wiki-style links in the UWN
[18:02] <boredandblogging> they won't work when copy them for the email and forums
[18:02] <johnc4510> right
[18:02] <tyche> Yep.  Part of what the proofing is about is to remove camelbacks
[18:03] <myrtlebeachbums> ITB pasted in.
[18:03] <johnc4510> k, thx
[18:03]  * myrtlebeachbums writes this date down because he missed no camelbacks in any articles this week.
[18:03] <johnc4510> lol
[18:03] <boredandblogging> :-)
[18:03] <tyche> ROFL
[18:04] <myrtlebeachbums> I did however seem to forget to click save after telling you I posted ITB. Duh Dave...
[18:11] <tyche> myrtlebeachbums: second entry in ITB, "in order to make them useable for people East Palo Alto." should be "in order to make them useable for people in East Palo Alto."
[18:12] <myrtlebeachbums> Gotcha. Fixing.
[18:13] <tyche> Thanks
[18:18] <johnc4510> myrtlebeachbums: nice job, only minor edits
[18:19] <myrtlebeachbums> Thanks johnc!
[18:19] <johnc4510> boredandblogging: ping
[18:20] <tyche> Why am I
[18:20] <boredandblogging> johnc4510: yo
[18:20] <johnc4510> we ended up with 2 Freescale articles, one ITP and one ION   should i leave both in?
[18:20] <tyche> Why am I "Waiting for wiki.ubuntu.com..."
[18:20] <boredandblogging> johnc4510: nah
[18:20] <johnc4510> it saw you coming
[18:20] <boredandblogging> keep the best one
[18:20] <boredandblogging> or merge them
[18:20] <johnc4510> k
[18:21] <tyche> Glossary in.
[18:21] <johnc4510> thx
[18:21] <myrtlebeachbums> Careful - I thought the same thing on the Freescale articles, and after review they do seem to complement each other.
[18:21] <myrtlebeachbums> ...but that's just my opinion.
[18:22] <johnc4510> yeah, i'm going to try and merge them
[18:22] <myrtlebeachbums> Go for it.
[18:23] <tyche> johnc4510: should I add a link to the glossary page I created, for those who might have references outside the UWN to use?
[18:26] <johnc4510> depends on how you handle it i think
[18:26] <johnc4510> lol
[18:26] <rhagge> hello---just testing---don't mind me!
[18:26] <johnc4510> put it in and let me see
[18:26] <johnc4510> please
[18:26] <johnc4510> rhagge: hey
[18:27] <tyche> dantrevino is in there currently
[18:29] <johnc4510> yeah
[18:29] <johnc4510> who's that hee hee
[18:29] <johnc4510> ah, florida member it looks like
[18:29] <tyche> dantalizing, he's in #ubuntu-us
[18:30] <boredandblogging> dantalizing runs the Florida team
[18:30] <johnc4510> ah
[18:30] <johnc4510> loco news maybe then
[18:30] <johnc4510> :)
[18:30] <LirazSiri> tyche: I sent you the practice security & updates section by mail
[18:30] <johnc4510> LirazSiri: hey
[18:30] <LirazSiri> hi john
[18:30] <johnc4510> i saw your earlier conversation with tyche
[18:30] <LirazSiri> ah great
[18:31] <tyche> LirazSiri: Yea, I haven't had a chance to check them, yet.  I'm a bit busy right now.
[18:31] <johnc4510> we'd be glad to have you do the stats, meetings and update and security if you want
[18:31] <LirazSiri> Should I send it to someone else?
[18:31] <johnc4510> ?
[18:31] <tyche> Right now, the UWN staff is kinda busy getting the UWN finalized and out.
[18:31] <johnc4510> so they match up with what we have in the issue?
[18:31] <myrtlebeachbums> Sunday afternoon is usually crunch time for the latest UWN. Any other day is probably good.
[18:32] <LirazSiri> johnc4510: I don't know I haven't checked
[18:32] <johnc4510> k
[18:32] <johnc4510> the current stuff is in and should be right
[18:32] <LirazSiri> alright, maybe I should use that for comparison then
[18:32] <johnc4510> that would work great
[18:32] <johnc4510> :)
[18:32] <LirazSiri> I'll just compare my practice run with the actual wiki text and see if it's ok
[18:33] <LirazSiri> alright.
[18:33] <johnc4510> cool
[18:33] <LirazSiri> having done the practice run today, I can commit to doing this every week if you guys will let me
[18:34] <johnc4510> great, what parts did you do exactly?
[18:34] <LirazSiri> the security and updates sections
[18:34] <johnc4510> ok
[18:34] <johnc4510> they need to be done late sat. night or early sunday morning then
[18:34] <johnc4510> to be current
[18:34] <LirazSiri> I'll have to stake a look to see what the statistics and meetings section are about. I don't know anything about how to do that yet, so I can't commit.
[18:35] <johnc4510> ok, look it over
[18:35] <johnc4510> it's not any harder than the other though
[18:35] <myrtlebeachbums> Paging tyche the trainer. One n00b coming up.
[18:35] <kennymc0> the security and updates is a piece of cake
[18:35] <kennymc0> usually only takes about 10 min
[18:35] <tyche> myrtlebeachbums: SegFault . . . paging did not work.  LOL
[18:36] <LirazSiri> really? tyche told the whole section usually takes 2-4 hours
[18:36] <kennymc0> if it's just after a release maybe a little longer since there are usually a ton of updates :)
[18:36] <myrtlebeachbums> :)
[18:36] <myrtlebeachbums> Maybe... That's funny kennymc0
[18:36] <johnc4510> yeah, it varies on time
[18:36] <johnc4510> right after a new release comes out it is usually longer
[18:36] <kennymc0> it can take 2 hours for everything i do if it's just after a release and there are over 100 updates
[18:36] <johnc4510> for a week or two, then settles down
[18:37] <kennymc0> first issue i worked on was just after a release and i had to put in 150 updates total
[18:37] <myrtlebeachbums> That's when you start asking "Isn't there some new guy that wants to join the UWN team that I can pass this off to?"
[18:37] <kennymc0> that was a _TON_ of fun
[18:37] <johnc4510> lol
[18:37] <kennymc0> THAT'S why I got started then
[18:37] <myrtlebeachbums> kennymc0 - have I told you that your joining the team was perfectly timed? :D
[18:37] <kennymc0> it all makes sense now
[18:37] <tyche> Been there, done that, worn the T-shirt . . . out.
[18:38] <LirazSiri> kennymc0: when do you usually work on this stuff?
[18:38] <LirazSiri> Sunday? Sat evening?
[18:38] <kennymc0> i started at about 10 last night
[18:38] <tyche> LirazSiri: that's AZ time
[18:38] <johnc4510> ok i merged the two freescale pieces by just adding the other links and indicating what they were
[18:39] <kennymc0> i did the bug stats translation stats, 5-a-day bug stats, upcoming events and the security updates and stuff
[18:39] <LirazSiri> kennymc0: since you seem to have a bit more experience doing this, maybe I could send you the wiki text by email next Saturday/early sunday?
[18:39] <dantalizing> i'm done editing guys
[18:39] <johnc4510> dantalizing: hi
[18:39] <dantalizing> sorry for the last minute editing
[18:39] <johnc4510> np
[18:39] <dantalizing> morning johnc4510
[18:39] <kennymc0> ok
[18:39] <johnc4510> what did you add?
[18:39] <LirazSiri> that way if I make any mistakes you can catch them
[18:39] <dantalizing> florida loco news
[18:39] <johnc4510> cool   thx
[18:39] <tyche> dantalizing: bookmark the channel.  We usually work in here, to avoid confusion.
[18:40] <dantalizing> gotcha
[18:40] <kennymc0> LirazSiri: you can even just post them and i can check them when you have them up
[18:40] <kennymc0> that would probably be fastest
[18:40] <kennymc0> then I could let you know if you did anything wrong and teach you how to fix it :)
[18:41] <tyche> johnc4510: I added the link at the bottom of the Glossary.  you can take a look.
[18:41] <johnc4510> tyche: k
[18:42] <johnc4510> tyche: yeah that's ok
[18:42] <johnc4510> thx
[18:42] <tyche> Good.  I tried to make it as generic as possible.
[18:42] <johnc4510> right
[18:43] <johnc4510> tyche: add it to the template too please
[18:43] <tyche> Will do.  That's an EASY fix
[18:44] <tyche> LoCo News, one camelback and 3 inline links.
[18:45] <tyche> dantalizing: Do you happen to have the information on the Tampa Linux Meetup posted on a wiki or blog page?
[18:46] <dantalizing> the meetup page
[18:46] <dantalizing> one sec
[18:46] <dantalizing> http://www.meetup.com/Tampa-Linux
[18:46] <dantalizing> want me to add it?
[18:47] <tyche> Great, then we can add that link underneath, as the reference point.
[18:47] <johnc4510> i cleaned up the hotlinks
[18:47] <johnc4510> just add the link
[18:47] <tyche> kk.  Can do
[18:49] <LirazSiri> when are the bug and translation stats done? if I do them on Saturday evening will that be ok?
[18:49] <johnc4510> tyche: i missed the last hotlink for the global bug jam :(
[18:49] <tyche> I was about to mention that.  I'll get it.
[18:49] <johnc4510> k
[18:49] <tyche> I'm in right now.
[18:50] <johnc4510> got to step away for a few, bb shortly
[18:56] <tyche> dantalizing: Thanks for your help and your addition.
[18:59] <dantalizing> guys this doesnt look right : https://launchpad.net/~thelupine and https://launchpad.net/~itnet7 where Lupine and itnet7 sat down with several of us for a mini bug ja
[19:00] <tyche> How about if I pulled the links out and put them underneith, just referencing them with a number, like [1]?
[19:01] <tyche> That would be the easiest fix.  Would the sentence read properly then?
[19:01] <dantalizing> i think so
[19:01] <tyche> OK, hold on.
[19:04] <tyche> dantalizing: take a look now.
[19:04] <dantalizing> nice
[19:04] <johnc4510> dantalizing: we can't have any hotlinks in the issue since we email it out and the links don't work
[19:04] <johnc4510> bakc
[19:04] <johnc4510> back
[19:05] <tyche> OK.  Now you see why we work in here.  Hee hee
[19:05] <dantalizing> johnc4510: gotcha.. i'll remember that
[19:05] <johnc4510> thx
[19:06] <johnc4510> tyche: looks good thx
[19:06] <tyche> NP
[19:06] <johnc4510> i'm going to do some wiki cleanup now
[19:06] <tyche> kk
[19:07] <johnc4510> dantalizing: give me your name and i'll add it to the credits
[19:07] <johnc4510> :)
[19:07] <dantalizing> Dan Trevino
[19:07] <johnc4510> k
[19:07] <dantalizing> thanks
[19:08] <johnc4510> np
[19:08] <tyche> See what happens when you add things to the UWN?  You get KNOWN.  LOL
[19:08] <myrtlebeachbums> "The Usual Suspects" ;)
[19:09] <tyche> Naw, we're VERY unusual.  Hee hee
[19:09] <myrtlebeachbums> Very true
[19:14] <johnc4510> ok, we're looking pretty good, i'll do the spell check and final run thru and publish a little later
[19:14] <johnc4510> thanks folks
[19:14] <johnc4510> great job again
[19:14] <johnc4510> :)
[19:14] <myrtlebeachbums> Thanks johnc4510.
[19:14] <johnc4510> :)
[19:15] <johnc4510> ah, now for a little work in the lazyboy
[19:15] <johnc4510> hee hee
[19:16] <myrtlebeachbums> :)
[19:16] <tyche> Oh, I mis-read that.  I thought he said that he was going to do a little work AS a lazy boy.  Hee hee
[19:17] <johnc4510-laptop> oooooooooh cut!!
[19:17] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[19:21] <kennymc0> ok i'm back
[19:21] <kennymc0> modem decided to lose its internet connection for a bit
[19:22] <kennymc0> parents hadnt tightened the coax cable going into the back of it down enough
[19:32] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[19:52] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, i'm going to release and publish folks    thx again!!
[19:55] <johnc4510-laptop> boredandblogging: ping
[19:55] <kennymc0> boredandblogging: ping
[19:55] <kennymc0> johnc4510-laptop: wants you
[19:55] <kennymc0> :)
[19:56] <johnc4510-laptop> i got like 50 unsubscribe notices from the -news mailing list at 2:00AM this morning. seems kind of strange to have that many at the same time. Wondering if it was a cron job or a hack??
[19:56] <johnc4510-laptop> boredandblogging: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[19:57] <tyche> I think you just haven't been keeping up.  There have been that number, but they happened over time.
[19:58] <tyche> I've also gotten a bunch of subscriptions.
[19:58] <tyche> Check the dates of the notices
[19:59] <johnc4510-laptop> dates all show 2:00AM this morning
[19:59] <johnc4510-laptop> that's why i was wondering about it
[19:59] <tyche> Hmmm.  Strange.
[19:59] <johnc4510-laptop> yeah
[19:59] <tyche> Like I said, I've gotten them, but over time.
[20:00] <tyche> Same with bounce notifications and action needed notifications.
[20:01] <johnc4510-laptop> sure, but this looks odd right off to me
[20:01] <boredandblogging> johnc4510-laptop: sorry
[20:01] <boredandblogging> was getting some food
[20:01] <johnc4510-laptop> np
[20:02] <johnc4510-laptop> you see my above note
[20:02] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[20:02] <boredandblogging> nah, it probably processes stuff like that in batches
[20:02] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[20:02] <johnc4510-laptop> just struck me as odd
[20:02] <tyche> WHAT???!!!!???  boredandblogging eats???  When was he allowed to do that!!!  Hee hee
[20:02] <johnc4510-laptop> all at once
[20:02] <boredandblogging> i do try to maintain my girlish figure
[20:02] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[20:03] <tyche> So do I.  But now it's a rather FAT girl.  LOL
[20:08] <boredandblogging> thanks everyone for UWN #124!
[20:08] <tyche> You're welcome.  :-D
[20:09] <boredandblogging> heh
[20:10] <johnc4510-laptop> yep
[20:11] <johnc4510-laptop> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue124
[20:42] <LirazSiri> when does the UWN template for the next week go up? (e.g., will it be setup by Saturday night?)


[10:00] <katkin> Morning all
[10:05] <katkin> So is everyone good to kick off the marketing meeting?
[10:15] <mrevell> Morning all, have I missed anything in the meeting?
[10:16] <Madpilot> meeting?
[10:16] <mrevell> hey Madpilot
[10:16] <Madpilot> hi mrevell
[10:17] <katkin> yep, a marketing meeting has been planned for 9 - 10
[10:17] <katkin> here's teh agenda
[10:17] <katkin> 1. Getting people interesting in doing the Tribe pages without me
[10:17] <katkin> 2. Introduction of Katharine Kinnie, Canonical's new marketing manager
[10:17] <katkin> 3. Questions the community has of her
[10:17] <katkin> 4. Questions she has of us
[10:17] <katkin> 5. Anything else
[10:18] <katkin> Burgundavia: are you there?
[10:20] <Madpilot> Burgundavia suggested that date, I see, but there didnt' seem to be any confirmation
[10:20] <Madpilot> 0900UTC = 0200 local - 45min from now
[10:22] <katkin> aha
[10:22] <katkin> oh well, looks like we might need to re-schedule
[10:22] <katkin> Madpilot: when would you suggest to be a good time in the day to go for?
[10:24] <Madpilot> katkin, no idea. Fire off a note to the mailing list again, I guess.
[10:24] <Madpilot> the fun of a worldwide group - it's going to be "Oh God hundred" for someone...
[10:24] <katkin> Madpilot: would it be best for me to make a few suggestions for people to pick from?
[10:25] <katkin> Madpilot: I guess so!
[10:26] <Madpilot> at one point on the Doc Team's wiki pages, we had a grid people could fill in - indicating what times were least-worst for them, so we could pick the most likely compromise time. Making a couple of suggestions is a good idea.
[10:29] <katkin> I see
[10:29] <katkin> thanks for the advice
[10:29] <katkin> Madpilot: so where are you based?
[10:29] <Madpilot> western Canada - same city as Burgundavia (even better, he's my younger brother...)
[10:30] <katkin> aha
[10:30] <katkin> so it must be early in the morning in Canada right now?
[10:31] <Madpilot> 0130
[10:31] <Madpilot> I'm up late waiting for it to cool off, because I can sleep in later today
[10:39] <katkin> i see
[10:39] <katkin> you're lucky that it is hot where you are
[10:39] <katkin> we have had awful weather so far this summer
[10:39] <katkin> lots and lots and lots and lots of rain
[10:39] <katkin> and not a lot of sunshine or warmth
[10:40] <Madpilot> it was 36C here today
[10:40] <Madpilot> I've had the day off, spent it drinking litres of water, getting a bit of a sunburn on the back deck, and mucking around
[10:40] <katkin> you are lucky
[10:40] <katkin> today London is grey
[10:40] <katkin> again
[10:41] <Madpilot> London is generally grey, in my experience. :)
[10:42] <Madpilot> although it was hot last time I was there - end of June and 30+ every day. (June 2000, not that recent)
[10:42] <katkin> yep, that's true to an extent
[10:42] <katkin> although we had an amazing summer last yr
[10:42] <Madpilot> 36C is hot for here - low 30s is more common for summer temps
[10:42] <katkin> it was so hot the grid went down because so many people were using air con and fans
[10:43] <katkin> April was really hot for us - bizarrely
[10:43] <katkin> it has just been raining relentlessly lately
[10:43] <Madpilot> fun. we had a shite June - way too much rain, and chilly. Then this heatwave broke on us right at the beginning of July.
[10:44] <katkin> Record-breaking June rainfall figures
[10:44] <katkin> Provisional statistics from the Met Office have today shown that June has been the wettest since records began in 1914.
[10:44] <katkin> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2007/pr20070705.html
[10:46] <Madpilot> fun
[10:47] <katkin> kind of, not for all the poor people in the north of england who's homes have been flooded tho
[10:48] <katkin> it's going to cost 2bn - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2036908.ece
[10:48] <Madpilot> I saw the flooding on the Beeb's website - couple of cities trashed
[10:49] <Madpilot> crazy - I just checked the weather map for N. America, and even the "Lows" are higher pressure than usual for the western half of the continent...
[10:49] <Madpilot> I think that means our nice weather is going to last a bit longer :)
[10:50] <katkin> thats good news then
[10:50] <katkin> we were told that we were only going to have one nice day for the whole of July
[10:51] <katkin> Summer officially arrives and leaves on 15th july
[10:51] <katkin> that's a lot of pressure for a Sunday!
[10:51] <Madpilot> ya, there's a big low out south of Iceland, right on the edge of the wx map I'm looking at
[10:52] <Madpilot> <-- weather geek (my excuse is the flying, pilots are expected to know this mass of weather bumpf...)
[10:56] <katkin> you're a pilot?
[10:56] <Madpilot> ya
[10:57] <Madpilot> the IRC nick is not entirely random :)
[10:58] <Madpilot> which means I can look at something like http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/analysis/jac06_50.gif and actually make some sense of it
[11:02] <Madpilot> anyway, need sleep. Later, all.
[07:23] <beuno> hey jono, got a few minutes?


[01:24] <snap-l> Good evening
[01:24] <snap-l> had a lovely evening with my wife over at PF CHangs.
[01:24] <snap-l> and then a lovely time going to target to get her a new mouse
[01:25] <snap-l> It was, dare I say it, lovely.
[01:26] <rick_h_> ll
[01:26] <rick_h_> lol
[01:26] <rick_h_> I've installed java, added it to my path, and copied/pasted code and compiled it
[01:26] <snap-l> rick_h_: Congratulations, you got Java code to compile
[01:27] <snap-l> feels like you ran a marathon to the fridge, doesn't it?
[01:27] <rick_h_> I'm confused, I just declared a class, but call the file and it executes
[01:27] <rick_h_> it seems a bit wrong that there's no "create instance/call method" there
[01:27] <rick_h_> I suppose it's "main" magic
[01:30] <snap-l> I didn't think it did that, but it's been a while since I've done anything with Java.
[01:30] <snap-l> ie: creat code, not wrestle with dev environments
[02:36] <snap-l> http://openmetalcast.com/2011/08/25/open-metalcast-special-episode-club-metal-5/
[11:44] <brousch> crud morning
[11:44] <Wolfger> crud morning!
[11:46] <brousch> one of our dogs goes nuts when a smoke alarm has a low battery which makes it beep every minute
[11:46] <brousch> of course this always happens at 3AM
[11:47] <brousch> it took me half an hour to find the offending alarm because it was on the floor under a pile of stuff in the basement. i have no idea how it got there
[11:47] <brousch> so, crud morning
[11:50] <DeaCon> http://www.crud.org/pages/ourdeal.html  heh funny
[12:01]  * Wolfger wonders if greg-g is going to be a member of CRUD
[12:01] <rick_h_> http://mhall119.com/2011/08/just-f-ing-do-it/
[12:02] <rick_h_> so I'm not sure if that means my coworkers should stop listening to me or what?
[12:02] <rick_h_> and morning
[12:02] <rick_h_> with a little crud
[12:06] <brousch> "But here’s the thing, if you already have something, and the people telling you to change it aren’t willing to help you change it, then just fucking do it, do it your way, even if it’s the wrong way. "
[12:07] <brousch> you are telling them to change and you are helping them
[12:07] <rick_h_> ah, ok I feel better then lol
[12:07] <rick_h_> I didn't like being the second line on that graph "is this much improvement really worth the time"
[12:08] <brousch> hm, the picture doesn't load for me
[12:08] <rick_h_> oh
[12:09] <brousch> looks like maybe he moved it to AWS and got the link wrong
[12:09] <rick_h_> http://blog_uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/solutions.png
[12:09] <rick_h_> is loading for me
[12:10] <brousch> doesn't load for me
[12:10] <rick_h_> hmm, is there a pypi or rubygems for java?
[12:10] <brousch> and does that really look like a valid url? doesn't seem unique enough to me
[12:10] <rick_h_> why not?
[12:10] <rick_h_> looks valid here
[12:11] <brousch> i changed it to http://mhall119.com//wp-content/uploads/2011/08/solutions.png
[12:11] <brousch> that works
[12:12] <brousch> wouldn't it require some kind of username or unique id in the url?
[12:13] <rick_h_> I figured the blog_uploads was it.
[12:13] <rick_h_> no idea why it works for me and not you
[12:16] <brousch> weird
[12:24] <snap-l> Good morning
[12:26] <brousch> this caffeinated coffee is really hitting the spot today
[12:38] <jjesse> brousch bummer on the morning
[12:39] <snap-l> reminds me of the time when our brilliant maintenance man threw out our smoke detector in the dumpster
[12:39] <snap-l> (back at the apartments)
[12:40] <snap-l> and forgot to take out the battery that was in there
[12:40] <snap-l> I actually dove into the dumpster at 3AM to find it and remove the battery.
[12:45] <brousch> after about 20 minutes i was considering whther it was easier to find the hidden alarm or snap my dog's neck
[12:45] <Wolfger> :-(
[12:45] <Wolfger> --
[12:45] <snap-l> after 20 minutes at 3am, that would be a valid option
[12:46] <snap-l> explaining it to the rest of the family might not be the best
[13:09] <brousch> there would be little love lost
[13:09] <jjesse> it seems half of my co-workers won't be getting out of the site they are working at due to all the cancelations of flights/etc for irene
[13:09] <jjesse> seems crazy
[13:10] <snap-l> jjesse: Ugh, so they're going to have to weather it out?
[13:11] <jjesse> or drive
[13:11] <snap-l> Ugh
[13:11] <jjesse> totally
[13:11] <jjesse> most of them are in multi-week engagements they plan on coming home each weekend for family
[13:11] <jjesse> boston has cancled most of flights already
[13:11] <jjesse> so they either drive home or weather it out
[13:13] <snap-l> or get a cab and try to find another airport, but that could get expensive quick
[13:13] <jjesse> yeah really expensive
[13:14] <jjesse> cab + flight change + hotel?
[13:15] <snap-l> Yeah, although you could do it without the hotel
[13:16] <snap-l> I mean, with enough cash anything is possible
[13:16] <Wolfger> spoken like a true American
[13:17] <snap-l> Everyone and everything has a price
[13:17] <snap-l> I buy you for $3.50. :)
[13:18] <Wolfger> I'd like a rickshaw ride from Boston to Detroit. Here's my titanium Visa.
[13:18] <Wolfger> $3.50 will get you a few minutes of my time
[13:18] <jjesse> nice titanium visa ;:)
[13:18] <Wolfger> ok, maybe 10 minutes
[13:18] <jjesse> is that like the black american express
[13:19] <snap-l> Wolfger: I want quality time, or the deal is off
[13:19] <Wolfger> jjesse: I'm guessing. It just sounded impressive. :-)
[13:19] <snap-l> Also note: you need to have a willing buyer and a willing seller.
[13:19] <snap-l> If eBay and Craigslist have taught us anything, it's the nature of value
[13:20] <snap-l> also, people will list some strange shit.
[13:20] <Wolfger> or take photos of reflective surfaces while not wearing any clothes...
[13:21] <jjesse> i wonder how heavy the titanium visa would be
[13:21] <jjesse> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centurion_Card
[13:22] <jjesse> an american express created out of titanium
[13:25] <Wolfger> wow
[13:25] <Wolfger> $5,000 to get it, $2,500/year to keep it.
[13:25] <Wolfger> Most of my cards have had < $5,000 limit. :-p
[13:25] <jjesse> yeah apparently its invite only or something
[13:26] <Wolfger> It's the "I'm ridiculously wealthy and I want you to know it" card.
[13:27] <rick_h_> dammit, people stop posting blog posts that "speak to me" today...gah! http://frazzleddad.blogspot.com/2011/08/maybe-youre-not-right-and-theyre-not.html
[13:32] <Wolfger> rick_h_: all progress depends upon the unreasonable man...
[13:34] <Wolfger> That blog post does nothing but insert the voice of doubt. I don't see one constructive thing in there.
[13:34] <rick_h_> hah, well maybe just a sanity check...if you're the one against the grain, maybe it's time to find another place where you're not alone and let them live their way
[13:34] <Wolfger> well, if you're unhappy there, that may be true.
[13:35] <Wolfger> if they're unhappy with you, it soon will be true :-)
[13:36] <Wolfger> but in my experience most people do things a certain way just because "that's how it's done", without any thought about whether or not it's the best (or even right) way.
[13:38] <Wolfger> guilty of that myself on occasion
[13:38] <Wolfger> thinking is hard; established procedure is easy.
[13:39] <rick_h_> heh, other way around. It's easy to think of what should be done, hard to get it implemented
[13:40] <Wolfger> "Nobody ever got fired for X" (where X is some industry standard way of doing things)... That may be true, but it's also been years if not decades since anybody got catapulted to success for doing X, too.
[13:41] <Wolfger> and the first person to do
[13:41] <Wolfger> X was sure risking getting fired for it
[13:41] <Wolfger> :-)
[13:54] <rick_h_> lol, https://github.com/qoda/python-wkhtmltopdf/issues/1
[13:56] <_stink_> "no, there is no way, plz write it."
[13:56] <rick_h_> ah, that's clearer :)
[13:56] <_stink_> :P
[14:11] <rick_h_> Blazeix: what's the final verdict on your DX?
[14:11] <rick_h_> I'm |  | close to trying to get one
[14:12] <rick_h_> size is the main concern, do you use it for normal book/bed reading kind of stuff?
[14:14] <Blazeix> rick_h_: I don't read in bed, but for lounging on the couch it works well.
[14:14] <Blazeix> I can bring it to CHC if you want to get another read on the size.
[14:14] <Blazeix> I'd by the DX again, given the choice.
[14:14] <rick_h_> yea, I'm really wanting one for my technical reading, for pdfs, books I buy outside of the amazon store
[14:14] <Blazeix> s/by/buy/
[14:14] <rick_h_> but worried about the casual reading I also do on it with it being larger/heavier
[14:14] <rick_h_> I honestly don't want to keep both kindles
[14:15] <rick_h_> cool, that's good to know
[14:15] <rick_h_> I hadn't heard if you were happy/not with the final choice. So that's cool
[14:17] <Blazeix> yeah, I have an android dev book on it, so the big screen is nice when dealing with java code :)
[14:17] <Blazeix> though in general i try to get hard copy of tech books, since i jump around a lot.
[14:18] <Blazeix> I imagine they're due for a product refresh, soon.
[14:19] <Wolfger> Impressive: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2011/08/stealing_atm_pi.html
[14:19] <Wolfger> They should file a patent on that process ;-)
[14:20] <brousch> geez
[14:20] <rick_h_> Blazeix: yea, this fall
[14:20] <rick_h_> so will wait a little bit
[14:21] <rick_h_> but if the change isn't much, I'm also tempted to try to get a cheaper DX
[14:21] <rick_h_> the tablets are all the rage for this fall release, and they say new kindle
[14:21] <brousch> isn't new kindle an android tablet?
[14:22] <jrwren> Anybody know a web designer with decent WP skills in the Birmingham
[14:22] <jrwren> area? A friend of a friend needs some short-term help. Likely a $1-2K
[14:22] <jrwren> project.
[14:23] <rick_h_> brousch: no, tablets are separate from kindle
[14:23] <rick_h_> the sales tell you that
[14:23] <rick_h_> jrwren: Mat might know, he's more hooked into local PHP in that area
[14:23] <rick_h_> shoot me an email and I'll send it along
[14:25] <jrwren> rick_h_: i forwarded the original
[14:25] <rick_h_> ty
[14:39] <_stink_> snap-l: just grabbed that projectile motion demo
[14:40] <_stink_> pretty neat
[14:40] <_stink_> the most fun part was firing a huge volley of like 20
[14:41] <rick_h_> yea, that seemed to be brousch's favorite part as well
[14:41] <brousch> _stink_: you have to completely obliterate the wall
[14:41] <brousch> land the shells on top of the wall
[14:44] <snap-l> _stink_: Yeah, I had a lot of fun debugging it that way. ;)
[14:55] <snap-l> http://identi.ca/notice/81715406
[15:00] <_stink_> hah, those books were all over the Borders in Birmingham
[15:00] <_stink_> even at 40% off
[15:01] <brousch> rick_h_: i was moving around vim using vim movement commands and deleting things in chunks instead of 1 letter at a time today
[15:01] <rick_h_> brousch: awesome!
[15:01] <rick_h_> you're well on your way
[15:05] <snap-l> http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007195
[15:05] <snap-l> DDREV gets you 50% off.
[16:02] <brousch> wow, rick_h_'s messing around helped me today. got sent an email with an embedded data uri
[16:02] <brousch> i would have nfc what that was
[16:07] <rick_h_> yea, lot of email does that since most web clients won't load external images by default for security
[16:07] <rick_h_> I'll have to show you my stuff, it's starting to come together
[16:08] <rick_h_> going to be pretty badass to add pdf export to any web app
[16:12] <rick_h_> woot, new super antenna is in
[16:13] <devinheitmueller> rick_h_: any real difference in tuning quality?
[16:13] <rick_h_> devinheitmueller: will let you know, going through assembly
[16:16] <devinheitmueller> Just FYI:  you can actually see the signal quality if you run asap.  Just look at the SNR field.  It's in hex, but if you convert it to decimal and multiply by 10, you will get the SNR in dB.  The maximum SNR possible is 30.0 dB.
[16:16] <devinheitmueller> E.g.  SNR=0x12c = 300 decimal = 30.0 dB.
[16:20] <rick_h_> asap?
[16:21] <devinheitmueller> Doh.  The IRC client changed "azap" to "asap".  Sorry.
[16:21] <rick_h_> ah ok
[16:30] <rick_h_> devinheitmueller: I'm only getting in dmesg "firmware was not loaded previously"
[16:31] <rick_h_> didn't we get a "successfully loaded firmware" or something before?
[16:34] <rick_h_> there we go, finding a lot more channels now
[16:35] <snap-l> rick_h_: Awesomesauce.
[16:35] <rick_h_> think I got 7 (some sd/hd dupes) now vs 3 or 4 before
[16:35] <rick_h_> 3 more
[16:35] <rick_h_> have to see how they look
[16:35] <rick_h_> and then try from the attic sometime
[16:35] <rick_h_> don't know the wife wants this zip tied to the deck lol
[16:35] <snap-l> Just say it's the new Dish network. ;)
[16:36] <rick_h_> lol
[16:36] <rick_h_> man, even more
[16:36] <rick_h_> awesome!
[16:36]  * rick_h_ hopes this works
[16:39] <jrwren> new antenae or just moved it?
[16:40] <rick_h_> new
[16:40] <jrwren> cool!
[16:40] <rick_h_> https://plus.google.com/112719704219936118281/posts/5UPpHDadcNV
[16:40] <jrwren> i want to do the same thing, and my distance is further AFAIK
[16:42] <rick_h_> yea, this thing is picking up everything
[16:43] <rick_h_> 7 channels with HD
[16:43] <rick_h_> two I odn't know, there're listed multiple times, but don't say hd/sd
[16:43] <rick_h_> damn, kaffiene crashing on me
[16:46] <devinheitmueller> rick_h_:  after you do the scan, exit out of Kaffeine and re-enter it.  Then see if it still crashes.
[16:47] <devinheitmueller> Glad to hear the new antenna is working well for you though.
[16:47] <rick_h_> yea, as soon as I hit the dtv, it loads and then crashes
[16:48] <devinheitmueller> Ugh.
[16:48] <rick_h_> what else would take that azap format channel list?
[16:48] <rick_h_> I created that channel list before remember kaffeine would scan itself
[16:49] <devinheitmueller> No easy answer there; you would probably have to compile kaffeine from source and get a gdb backtrace.
[16:49] <devinheitmueller> mplayer will take the azap format.
[16:49] <devinheitmueller> You have to copy the channels.conf into ~/.mplayer, then you can do "mplayer dvb://WABC-DT"
[16:51] <rick_h_> ugh, per channel eh?
[16:51] <devinheitmueller> Sorry, if I wasn't clear, "~/.mplayer" needs to be a directory, not a file.
[16:51] <rick_h_> yea, figured that part
[16:51] <devinheitmueller> I think you can do channel up/down once inside mplayer.
[16:51] <devinheitmueller> I forget the syntax though.
[16:51] <rick_h_> just mean that you have to launch mplayer to the channel you want vs change channel
[16:51] <rick_h_> ah, ok
[16:52] <devinheitmueller> rick_h_: see here:  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/mpeg_decoders.html
[16:52] <devinheitmueller> You can use "h" and "k" to do next and previous.
[16:52] <devinheitmueller> …. and you can just do "dvb://" instead of specifying an initial channel name to get the first channel in your channels.conf.
[16:53] <rick_h_> yea, I started it with that and got a first working channel
[16:53] <rick_h_> woot! working
[16:53] <devinheitmueller> Sorry, I don't do this particular use case every day, so I'm a little slow in telling you what the commands/keys are etc.
[16:54] <rick_h_> thanks, that helped me sanity check
[16:54] <rick_h_> the big job now is ot test it from the attic, and see if it still picks up
[16:54] <rick_h_> and if so, running cable from there down into the basement *ugh*
[16:55] <rick_h_> jrwren: this model says 65mi vs the older one said 30mi
[16:55] <rick_h_> the 30mi didn't pick up anything at my house 18-25mi from the towers
[17:05] <Dekkard> tinycore rocks
[17:11] <greg-g> Wolfger: I'm going to say no, I'm not going to join CRUD
[17:14] <brousch> lame
[17:14] <greg-g> still in Winnemucca, NV
[17:15] <brousch> is that a casino town?
[17:15] <brousch> winyemucha
[17:15] <greg-g> and seriously, when driving out west from utah to california, check the map twice before going and taking the short cut through the desert, we almost ran out of gas yesterday
[17:15] <greg-g> brousch: everything out here is :)
[17:16] <greg-g> the effing gas stations have slot machines
[17:18] <snap-l> The airport has slot machines
[17:18] <snap-l> You can't get rid of that stupid slot machine sound
[17:19] <brousch> so how much have you played?
[17:21] <greg-g> Zero.
[17:21] <brousch> YOU CAN'T WIN IF YOU DON'T PLAY!
[17:21] <greg-g> snap-l: yeah, I used to work at a fun park in Hannibal, MO in High School that had an arcade. I can still hear the machines doing their thing in my sleep.
[17:23] <rick_h_> phew, attic is HOT
[17:25] <greg-g> we drove through 105F desert yesterday :)
[17:29] <snap-l> greg-g: btw: is there a way to change the team contact on the loco directory page for UbuMI?
[17:30] <greg-g> hmmm, it should be a function of what the LP team is
[17:30] <greg-g> brb call
[17:30] <devinheitmueller> https://plus.google.com/u/0/117949622109501454770/posts/QxmUEcopQ44
[17:31] <snap-l> devinheitmueller: I might be interested in those.
[17:33] <devinheitmueller> the shelf, or the tables?
[17:33] <snap-l> The shelf and possibly the tables.
[17:34] <snap-l> If someone else really wants them, though, by all means let them have them. :)
[17:36] <Wolfger> I despise non-technical people writing about technical things.
[17:36] <snap-l> Wolfger: What happened now?
[17:37] <Wolfger> "DTE is planning to have these three wind farms operational by December 2012, which together will generate approximately 110 megawatts."
[17:37] <snap-l> Pffft
[17:37] <Wolfger> 110 MW?  Carry on.
[17:44] <jrwren> so j/s = W = V A ?
[17:45] <_stink_> jrwren: i have gone through that in my head about 1 billion times.  i understand :)
[17:45] <jrwren> great. _stink_ understands my stupid.
[17:45] <Wolfger> jrwren: W in this context is Work not Watts :-p
[17:45] <jrwren> oh.
[17:45] <_stink_> physics is good at making one realize one's own stupid.
[17:46] <rick_h_> woot, works from the attic as well, lost wdiv though :(
[17:46] <_stink_> like most of my life.
[17:48] <Wolfger> half asleep + timecard already approved by project manager who left for vacation = why am I still here?
[17:51] <brousch> Wolfger: because you love working
[17:52] <Wolfger> if I was working I wouldn't be half asleep. I'm wallowing in a morass of red tape.
[17:54] <brousch> sounds confortable
[17:58] <Dekkard> hmm
[17:58] <Dekkard> no gamerchick
[17:59]  * Dekkard wonders if she got hired...
[18:02] <Wolfger> no gamerchick02? Are you sure? I see her, Dekkard
[18:02] <gamerchick02> yeah, i'm here
[18:02] <gamerchick02> not hired yet.
[18:04] <ColonelPanic001> wat
[18:07] <devinheitmueller> snap-l: you're welcome to whatever subset of the shelf/tables you want.  I definitely cannot take them back to NYC with me (they won't fit in the car), so it's either I give them away or they go in the dumpster.
[18:08] <Dekkard> damnit
[18:08] <Dekkard> didja apply to Linamar?
[18:09] <snap-l> I'm looking to get some pencils to give out as favors for the Ubuntu MI loco.
[18:10] <snap-l> http://www.orientaltrading.com/mega-personalized-pencil-assortment-a2-47_362-18-0.fltr
[18:13] <gamerchick02> Dekkard, i think i did. i had an interview wednesday at Piolax and i feel good about it
[18:13] <gamerchick02> snap-l cool
[18:15] <gamerchick02> that's actually a really good idea, snap-l. what are you going to put on them?
[18:16] <snap-l> ubuntu MI loco
[18:16] <snap-l> I don't think I can fit a URL on there
[18:17] <gamerchick02> hrm. what about a twitter name or something?
[18:17] <gamerchick02> @ubuntumi
[18:17] <gamerchick02> or whatever.
[18:18] <snap-l> Save for we don't have that twitter name that I'm aware of. ;)
[18:18] <gamerchick02> ah. well... just a thought.
[18:24] <ColonelPanic001> shame it's hard to get a twitter account
[18:25]  * ColonelPanic001 goes to register it and squat
[18:25] <brousch> rick_h_: have you poked at http://khufuproject.github.com/ yet?
[18:25] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: Feel free. ;)
[18:26] <ColonelPanic001> I'm not enough of a dick
[18:26] <ColonelPanic001> almost, though
[18:26] <ColonelPanic001> almost.
[18:26] <brousch> so you're just a little dick?
[18:27] <snap-l> I'd rather someone from the loco register it than leave it out there
[18:27] <ColonelPanic001> brousch: no comment
[18:27] <ColonelPanic001> snap-l: yeah, guess that's true.
[18:28]  * brousch registers fakeubuntumi
[18:29] <gamerchick02> it's hard to get a twitter account?
[18:29] <brousch> well it's hard if the name is already taken
[18:30] <gamerchick02> it's already taken
[18:30] <gamerchick02> ?
[18:30] <gamerchick02> ubuntumi doesn't exist
[18:30] <ColonelPanic001> I was just being sarcastic at the time.
[18:30] <brousch> someone has to care for and feed it
[18:31] <gamerchick02> ubuntu-us-mi isn't taken
[18:31] <ColonelPanic001> TAKE THEM ALL
[18:31] <gamerchick02> that's true, but can't that be done through RSS and stuff?
[18:31] <brousch> it's a time thing
[18:31] <gamerchick02> NOMnomNOM *eats twitter accounts*
[18:31] <gamerchick02> true, it is
[18:32] <gamerchick02> i manage my own, and our Nile Temple's and my OES chapter's. i'm not up for another one right now.
[18:35] <snap-l> They're talking about Dethklok on 101.9
[18:36] <Wolfger> .9?
[18:36] <snap-l> WDET
[18:36] <Wolfger> I was going to say... that's not the WRIF...
[18:36] <snap-l> http://www.wdet.org/
[18:37] <snap-l> It's about cartoons and music
[18:37] <snap-l> They had the singer from Jem and the Holograms on there.
[18:57] <jrwren> O_O
[18:57] <jrwren> snap-l: they did not!  That is truly outrageous!
[18:57] <snap-l> Why not?
[18:57] <snap-l> It's a program called "soundcheck"
[18:58] <jrwren> wow.
[18:58] <jrwren> that is truly truly truly outrageous.
[19:00] <snap-l> Why is that outrageous?
[19:11] <jrwren> i'm quoting the Jem theme song.
[19:11] <jrwren> Jem.
[19:11] <jrwren>  truly truly truly outrageous
[19:11] <snap-l> jrwren: Apparently you watched it way more than I did. ;)
[19:13] <ColonelPanic001> what about the Jem'hadar
[19:13] <ColonelPanic001> ?
[19:15] <jrwren> ColonelPanic001: LOL!
[19:15] <jrwren> ColonelPanic001: you made me spit the peach I was eating.
[19:16] <ColonelPanic001> \o/
[19:16] <jrwren> that was DS9, right?
[19:16] <ColonelPanic001> yeah
[19:16] <jrwren> \m/
[19:31] <Dekkard> mind the gap
[20:13] <rick_h_> brousch: I've followed it, but personally not a fan of "hey, don't use pyramid, use some extra layer that hides things and will have to keep up with the normal pyramid releases"
[20:14] <brousch> hm, i thought that was the whole point of this pyramid thing
[20:14] <brousch> so people can make easy to use subsets
[20:14] <rick_h_> yea, but so far I've been willing to do without
[20:16] <rick_h_> the thing is that if you use osmething layered on something else you eventually need to know how to use the lower end tool to fix something
[20:18] <brousch> so it might be good for someone that knows pyramid and is looking to dev in it a little faster?
[20:19] <rick_h_> well, it all came about as a helper for people used to pylons that didn't "get" pyramid
[20:19] <rick_h_> so if you're learning pyramid, I'm not sure what it will do besides bootstrap pylons-isms back into place
[20:19] <brousch> ah, so it's a pylons-like subset of pyramid
[20:19] <rick_h_> well, superset
[20:19] <rick_h_> it adds on
[20:22] <brousch> I'm going through the Pyramid docs for 1.2. they are much improved over a year ago? when i last read them
[20:23] <brousch> it also helps that i've made a few webapps and know wtf some of this stuff is for now
[20:26] <brousch> the 2 hours i spent making that cherrypy/mako/sqlalchemy app yesterday was very enlightening. i'm thinking it might make a good beginner's tutorial session for next year's pyohio. "So you sort of know Python? Let's make a webapp!"
[20:27] <brousch> go from virtualenv - mod_wsgi
[20:46] <jrwren> anyone know that status of CVE-2011-3192 on a default ubuntu?
[20:47] <jrwren> this is teh apache Range header DoS that hit this week.
[20:51] <snap-l> Haven't seen an update on it
[20:51] <snap-l> The bug has been around since 2007, though
[20:51] <jrwren> yes, but only recently discovered, right?
[20:52] <snap-l> No, it was on the apache bug reporter since 2007
[20:52] <snap-l> it just got some attention this week
[20:52] <jrwren> interesting.
[20:54] <jrwren> attention because active attacks are in the wild.
[20:54] <jrwren> i should attack myself :)
[20:54] <snap-l> Heh
[20:55] <snap-l> So it's a case of someone finding some old bugs that nobody paid much attention to, and exploiting it
[21:53] <jrwren> yup, but still important
[23:11] <brousch> of all the frameworks i've tried so far, pyramid is the easiest to get hooked up right for mod_wsgi
[23:19] <jrwren> even easier than paste?
[23:19] <brousch> well it uses paste
[23:20] <jrwren> oh, cool
[23:20] <brousch> but i mean for actually getting the app working with mod_wsgi
[23:20] <brousch> and apache
[23:20] <brousch> there's a .wsgi file you have to make, and each framework's is a little different
[23:21] <brousch> and getting that just right and the apache visrtualhost just right is a pain in my ass
[23:23] <rick_h_> yea
[23:23] <rick_h_> http://docs.bmark.us/hosting.html#hosting-with-nginx-uwsgi
[23:24] <rick_h_> brousch: if you get a good apache setup and care to write it down I'd love to add some more apache/wsgi in there
[23:26] <brousch> https://bmark.us/redirect/0cf3c596df1db0
[23:26] <brousch> ah, i see what you mean
[23:26] <brousch> yeah, i'll give it a try
[23:40] <brousch> bam, it works
[23:41] <brousch> only gotcha was i had to use the full path to the DB. for some reason i had a relative path, so i'm guessing that's how it was in the instructions


[01:52] <dmj_s76> sgclark: It seems the Kdenlive has a missing critical dependency on 16.10.
[01:54] <dmj_s76> Kdenlive crashes on startup unless the user manually installs the qml-module-qtquick-controls package.
[01:55] <sgclark> due to work I have not packaged for Kubuntu in this release, will need to ping kubuntu-devel sorry
[01:55] <dmj_s76> Could we get an updated package in the yakkety repo that includes the dependency.
[01:57] <sgclark> xenial is the last release I packaged for. please ping kubuntu-devel
[01:58] <dmj_s76> sgclark: Thanks


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[13:14] <thorwil> hi mpt, vish
[13:14] <mpt> hi thorwil
[13:17] <thorwil> JanC edited http://gitorious.org/ayatana-ux/pages/Home a bit
[13:17] <thorwil> i added/edited http://gitorious.org/ayatana-ux/ayatana-ux/blobs/master/root.txt
[13:18] <mpt> Jan also pointed me to http://dot.kde.org/2006/12/01/looking-back-three-years-openusability-jan-m%C3%BChlig
[13:19] <thorwil> yes, i did read it and it's very fitting
[13:42] <UndiFineD> it does not score high on readabilty :p


[07:16] <homajili> hi my friends
[08:20] <Smurphy> Friends ? where ? :}
[08:20] <Smurphy> We are all geeks ;)
[12:17] <bshah> mariogrip: hello
[12:30] <bshah> or well anyone who can help to figure out why plasma phone stopped working all of sudden, currently something is wrong.. and lxc-android-config doesn't run.
[12:33] <mariogrip> bshah: I don't know much about plasma but I can try
[12:34] <bshah> mariogrip: well, thing is something is missing, currently for example there is no /dev/graphics
[12:34] <bshah> and also lxc-android-config is in stopped state
[12:34] <mariogrip> what device is it?
[12:34] <bshah> hammerhead
[12:35] <mariogrip> could you check /system/bin/logcat
[12:35] <bshah> mariogrip: Unable to open log device '/dev/alog/main': No such file or directory
[12:35] <ozzz> Helo all!
[12:36] <ozzz> why may needed SCSI device support for touch device?
[12:36] <mariogrip> bshah: where is the android system.img from, did you build it?
[12:36] <bshah> mariogrip: system.img is from ubports
[12:37] <mariogrip> has it worked with plasma before, if yes when did it stop working?
[12:38] <ozzz> If I disable all SCSI relevant stuff in kernel conf. Maybe someone knows, will ubuntu work?
[12:38] <bshah> mariogrip: it has worked before, yes.. thing is earlier we used to take up tarball from cdimage.ubuntu.com for rootfs and now we wanted to start using livebuild for building rootfs.
[12:38] <bshah> it worked for vivid but it never worked for xenial
[12:38] <bshah> (with similar config)
[12:39] <mariogrip> xenial is gcc5 btw
[12:40] <bshah> right, yes.. same packages work if we mangle cdimage.ubuntu.com tarball.. but that method is hack and needs to be changed
[12:41] <mariogrip> could you send me the syslog? (var/log/syslog)
[12:41] <bshah> sure, moment
[12:44] <bshah> mariogrip: http://ix.io/uSx
[12:45] <mariogrip> is this running of multirom?
[12:45] <bshah> yes
[12:45] <bshah> but if you want log, which is not in multirom let me know
[12:46] <mariogrip> are you sure it's ubports images? since multiromMR is setup for Tasssadars server
[12:46] <bshah> device image, yes I am sure
[12:47] <bshah> its : /pool/device-18a659f3cfe13a409a52815d2ef8dc71e99ab38d589e3272ceea40b43c3ae512.tar.xz
[12:47] <bshah> for pm we are using different server and changed multirom
[12:47] <mariogrip> ok
[12:48] <bshah> log in non-multirom env : https://paste.kde.org/pjj3vj0qh
[12:49] <mariogrip> could you try to start it without plasma and see if it is the ghal that is crashing in android
[12:50] <bshah> lets see
[12:50] <mariogrip> just add manual to lightdm (if it is lightdm plasma is using)
[12:50] <bshah> yeah.
[12:51] <mariogrip> and what channel is it on?
[12:51] <bshah> neon-mobile/live channel
[12:51] <mariogrip> what is that based on?
[12:52] <mariogrip> (what ubports channel is it based on)
[12:52] <bshah> device tarball from ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed
[12:53] <bshah> mariogrip: I did add manual mode in lightdm, still syslog seems to be similarish
[12:58] <mariogrip> bshah: let me install it on my hammerhead and check
[12:58] <mariogrip> what is the server url?
[12:58] <bshah> neon.plasma-mobile.org
[12:58] <bshah> thanks mariogrip for your time :)
[12:58] <mariogrip> bshah: np :)
[12:59] <bshah> I know it will be something really stupid and will be staring right in my stupid face.. :p but I can't figure out from long time.. :(
[13:01] <mariogrip> hehe that's normal, I  had those times i too
[13:01] <mariogrip> what's the diffrent between live and devel?
[13:02] <mariogrip> difference*
[13:02] <bshah> devel chan is old one and working
[13:02] <mariogrip> ok
[13:02] <bshah> similar is devel-proposed
[13:08] <mariogrip> bshah: btw, ubports is soon moving to 5.1 android hal, we will have 2 new channels with 5.1 images this week for testing
[13:08] <bshah> oh
[13:08] <bshah> nice
[13:08] <mariogrip> does plasma work with 5.1 images?
[13:08] <bshah> I am not sure..
[13:08] <bshah> I will have to test out
[13:09] <bshah> but first priority is to get this working.. :)
[13:10] <mariogrip> yeah :)
[13:39] <mpt> jgdx, hi, is there a bug report covering the lack of scrolling in dialogs? (for example VPN)
[13:40] <jgdx> mpt, scrolling works, but it's kinda broken.
[13:42] <jgdx> by kinda broken I mean it's not a flickable
[13:44] <mpt> jgdx, so is the only issue that it isn’t a Flickable by default?
[13:45] <jgdx> mpt, yes, or maybe it is a flickable, but it's not elastic, so painful to scroll. And it's not indicating when you've reached end or top.
[13:46] <jgdx> mpt, also, shouldn't the Action Buttons* be glued to the bottom of this scrollable panel/on the top of the OSK if active?
[13:49] <mpt> jgdx, ok, so two problems then: (1) the action area (non-scrollable part for buttons) isn’t implemented and (2) the body area doesn’t scroll normally or show that you’re at the top/bottom
[13:50] <jgdx> mpt, yes.
[13:57] <mpt> jgdx, so (2) will be a sequel to bug 1376763
[14:59] <bshah> mariogrip: btw, I've to leave in sometime now, if anything please leave message in query or best mail on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>whatever you prefer
[15:00] <mariogrip> bshah: ok, sorry for the delay I'm flashing it now
[15:00] <bshah> np, do it when you have time
[15:01] <bshah> its just messages in irc may get lost due to low backlog limit set in bouncer
[15:11] <mariogrip> bshah: I will send a email
[15:12] <bshah> okay
[16:19] <mike00> hi
[16:20] <mike00> I've got a problem with my ubuntu phone, someone can help me?
[16:21] <mike00> the GPS doesn't work...
[16:21] <mike00> on a Bq Aquaris E4.5
[16:22] <ogra_> mike00, check under the battery settings there is an additional switch for GPS
[16:22] <ogra_> might be thats off
[16:22] <pmcgowan> which doesnt do anything actually afaik
[16:22] <pmcgowan> mike00, do you have the normal shipping image?
[16:41] <mike00> wich map app should I use?
[16:42] <mike00> which*
[16:42] <dobey> the one that works best for you
[16:42] <dobey> unav will be included by default in the next OTA update though, i think
[16:42] <mike00> I uninstalled it..
[16:44] <mike00> do you have any problems with the GPS on Aquaris E4.5?
[16:46] <dobey> i don't have an e4.5
[16:46] <dobey> mike00: do you have the phone up to date with system updates?
[16:46] <mike00> ok...
[16:47] <mike00> yes, I've got OTA 9.1
[16:47] <dobey> i have a nexus 5, and gps works ok for me on it now
[16:47] <dobey> pmcgowan: ^^ there's the answer to your question :)
[16:47] <mike00> Ubuntu 15.04
[16:48] <mike00> but is correct I don't have yet ubuntu 15.10 on my phone?
[16:48] <dobey> yes it's correct
[16:49] <dobey> the phone releases do not follow the normal ubuntu release schedule
[16:49] <mike00> the next update will be 15.10 or 16.04?
[16:49] <dobey> so basically, you can ignore that it says 15.04
[16:49] <pmcgowan> mike00, do you have the Here support enabled?
[16:49] <dobey> neither; the next update will be the phone image
[16:49] <mike00> ?
[16:50] <ogra_> mike00, the phone development happens in its own archive
[16:50] <mike00> I didn't see it...
[16:50] <dobey> that. the 15.04 on the phone is not the same 15.04 that one might have installed on a PC
[16:50] <ogra_> 15.04 just says when that archive was forked off the normal distro
[16:51] <ogra_> at some point after the 16.04 release it will get re-based on 16.04 ... probably in 6 months or so
[16:51] <ogra_> (and stay on 16.04 for a while again)
[16:51] <ogra_> just ignore the ubuntu version
[16:51] <mike00> ok
[16:51] <dobey> mike00: if you go into location settings, is it set to use GPS only, or to use wifi/cell assistance as well? or is it set to off?
[16:52] <mike00> I tried both of them, but now i have to go
[16:52] <mike00> bye
[16:52] <dobey> bye
[18:17] <jlkon13> Hello, I am currently porting the ubuntu touch recovery to my tablet but i have a few issues: the screen looks like this https://ibin.co/2bGVFHt2KyPT.jpg ; i suppose the problem has something to do with the display orientation because the image is split (but i am not sure). after two seconds the screen turns off and the same happens again and again; previously I tried porting the cwm recovery from cyanogenmod source
[18:25] <greyback> jlkon13: looks... interesting. I'd suggest you stop lightdm and unity-system-compositor, install "mir-demos" and test if mir_demo_server and a mir client functions
[18:25] <greyback> oh, it's the recovery.
[18:26] <greyback> sorry, I've no idea about the recovery image
[18:26] <jlkon13> yes, it is a rockchip 3066 device (maybe that helps …)
[18:46] <dobey> mariogrip: hey. any idea why when i choose "reboot" on the power menu on hammerhead, it doesn't want to actually reboot?
[19:08] <maxvanceffer> Hi to all
[19:08] <maxvanceffer> How can help me with Online Accounts
[19:09] <maxvanceffer> Package and configure
[19:19] <jlkon13> can the ubuntu-toch recovery image run on its own or does it need other partitions to work (like system)?
[19:26] <jlkon13> i found the solution for the problem i mentioned above: i adjusted my recovery fstab and now it works (dont know where the error was)
[19:28] <maxvanceffer> Guys !!!
[20:03] <john-mcaleely> jibel, fyi - the device tarball landing I mentioned earlier today
[20:03] <john-mcaleely> https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1176
[20:34] <jibel> john-mcaleely, thanks, we'll review it tomorrow morning
[20:57] <mimecar> hi


[00:46] <belkinsa> skellat!  Welcome back!
[00:46] <belkinsa> Happy fourth to you also.
[20:18]  * skellat is listening to podcasts and writing a long-ish reading script
[23:54] <belkinsa> lol
[23:54] <belkinsa> skellat, was that you who changed it?
[23:54] <skellat> :-)
[23:54] <skellat> Yep
[23:54] <belkinsa> So, how are you?
[23:54] <skellat> It has been a good week of decompression
[23:55] <skellat> I get to file for unemployment Monday
[23:55] <skellat> But, it is good
[23:55] <belkinsa> I bet, since you got fried over the last whatever months.
[23:57] <skellat> It is an adventure
[23:58] <skellat> Depending upon how some court cases turn out & the upcoming budget battle, any potential recall to duty may either have a bunch of New Things To Worry About or Other Excitements


[14:51] <Anoia> hi all, when tranalating with launchpad, is it possible to filter by source file?
[14:51] <Anoia> oh, are they guaranteed to be grouped together so I can find them int he list and go through from there?