[07:53] <dr_willis> libben,  its not free. :P you got to buy it
[07:53] <epicenter_> AlfonsVH: type kdm or gdm instead of startx now
[07:53] <dr_willis> libben,  and its not a Sure thing.
[07:53] <AlfonsVH> ok
[07:53] <epicenter_> b2s: Will this make all applications execute in 32-bit?
[07:54] <epicenter_> and is there a way to get back to normal AMD64?
[07:54] <AlfonsVH> just in the bash root, or should I set the folder to /usr/X11R6/bin?
[07:54] <Tux-Rox> dr_willis, Thanks.
[07:54] <epicenter_> your home dir
[07:54] <AlfonsVH> ok
[07:54] <dr_willis> Tux-Rox,  what sound card you have?
[07:54] <epicenter_> well it doens't really matter actually.
[07:54] <epicenter_> I was thinking of something else.
[07:54] <epicenter_> if you reboot now; gdm or kdm should run and you should get a graphical lolgin
[07:54] <epicenter_> *login
[07:55] <b2s> epicenter_: you'd just exit from the 32bit shell it puts you in.  or you could run linux64 (comes with the linux32 package) but that doesn't make much sense while you are still chrooted
[07:55] <epicenter_> ahh, OK
[07:55] <mxpxpod> where are updates for hoary put? I haven't gotten a hoary update for a few days
[07:55] <epicenter_> seems simple enough
[07:55] <buz> maybe its related to me using xinerama?
[07:55] <Tux-Rox> dr_willis, Audigy
[07:55] <buz> uuh wrong window
[07:55] <epicenter_> mxpxpod: they should automatically update the packages; not be saved somewhere
[07:55] <queuetue> mxpxpod, I heard they were resting after the release.
[07:55] <goldfish> is there like a minimal ubuntu installtion for like running a server on?
[07:55] <b2s> when you run linux32 whatever, it runs "whatever" as 32bit.  chroot starts up "bash" (or whatever), so when you are done, you exit bash and it exits chroot and it exits linux32 :)
[07:56] <Burgundavia> mxpxpod, hoary is now frozen. The only updates are going to security ones and there haven't been any yet
[07:56] <epicenter_> you're the 3rd person I've seen ask why there were no updates
[07:56] <epicenter_> I'd not sweat it
[07:56] <Tux-Rox> dr_willis, I was messing with the alsamixer the other evening and now I'm told via IM that the sound is not working at all...... :-(
[07:56] <Tux-Rox> Unfortunately, I'm not at the machine...
[07:57] <dr_willis> Tux-Rox,  i Got an Auduigy Z2 - theres SOO many mixer controlls its can be scary. :P
[07:57] <AlfonsVH> epicenter_, it works!!! Thanks for the great help!
[07:58] <djp> anyone know if it is possible to use totem-gstreamer with mozplugger to listen to shoutcast streams? i have checked out the forums but that only seems to have answers that use totem-xine which i do not want to use.
[07:58] <dr_willis> Tux-Rox,   i installed the gui-alsa mixers and very methodocly paid attention ti what slider did what. :P and read some info on the alsa homepage..
[07:58] <libben> ] BreliC[, ok. ive putted it there... and tryed to execute it.. now... i need to path it.. how?
[07:58] <AlfonsVH> bye everyone
[08:01] <epicenter_> AlfonsVH: welcome!
[08:01] <epicenter_> Look into getting a newer driver for your card so you can use it and get faster X performance.
[08:02] <epicenter_> also consider sending a bug report with your hardware info in.
[08:03] <Servo888> CarlK, lol, yah I found that lowmem install as well - never new 256MB was low ram =\
[08:04] <graabein> hi! rookie ubuntu/linux user here, my first time online!
[08:04] <Gladiak> hi :)
[08:04] <totalshredder> 256 Will always be a lot of ram
[08:04] <Gladiak> do you try hoary ?
[08:04] <elekrtolyytti> how can i add own commands to keybind of ubuntu?
[08:05] <graabein> i plan to upgrade later this week!
[08:05] <b2s> hi graabein, ubuntu is great isn't it :)
[08:05] <graabein> yeah, i like it. tried suse a couple years ago... used windows uptil now
[08:05] <totalshredder> I have 256 Ram and it is waayyyy enough
[08:05] <Servo888> graabein, I got 24MB of ram on my laptop... I would upgrade but I paid 10 bucks for the laptop... Upgrading the ram to 64 will cost more than the laptop :-)
[08:05] <goldfish> lol
[08:05] <totalshredder> I've never used my swap
[08:06] <mindmedic> totalshredder, play doom3 and you will see that it's not
[08:06] <graabein> hehe
[08:06] <Choubaka> elekrtolyytti: Is that typo in your nickname intentional? :)
[08:06] <totalshredder> Haha, so true, I'm not a gamer though
[08:06] <Reblend-for5mins> Choubaka, keyboard probably stuck
[08:06] <elekrtolyytti> Choubaka: its in finnish ;)
[08:06] <Servo888> totalshredder, what do you do?... Next to firefox and ndiswrapper memory leaks, even with my 1GB I sometimes end up using swap =\
[08:06] <mindmedic> totalshredder, then better say its enough for "you"
[08:06] <Choubaka> elekrtolyytti: It's elektrolyytti in Finnish :)
[08:06] <Reblend-for5mins>  I get the boot prompt for the LIVE CD and it hangs on loading VMLINUZ......
[08:06] <mindmedic> general statements are always tricky
[08:07] <elekrtolyytti> Choubaka: OH lol.. LOL!
[08:07] <totalshredder> mindmedic: good idea
[08:07] <drspin> "Failed to Initialize hal" when I login
[08:07] <drspin> ?/
[08:07] <Reblend-for6mins> ROFL
[08:07] <drspin> already tried reinstalling
[08:07] <filip_> someone hos talk swedish in here?
[08:07] <Reblend-for6mins> I'm sorry Dave, but I'm afraid you can't do that.
[08:08] <Reblend-for6mins> hal says no
[08:08] <totalshredder> Servo888: I use a heck of a lot at once, firefox, gaim, gimp, a few open offices, xmms, lampp no real problems with memory
[08:08] <Gladiak> ehy guys what do you think about new ubuntu hoary ?
[08:08] <graabein> i got a pretty good box... bought nvidia gfx-card just because of the linux support. screw ati!
[08:08] <Reblend-for6mins> Gladiak,  I LOV EIT
[08:08] <drspin> right but why?
[08:08] <Gladiak> acpi problems on laptops ?
[08:08] <Reblend-for6mins> Gladiak, but it's the only dist I've ever seen, except mepis
[08:09] <Gladiak> i have a pavilion and i've some acpi probs
[08:09] <Gladiak> :D
[08:09] <Gladiak> i guess if i could install it freely
[08:09] <Reblend-for6mins> Gladiak, tried LIVE CD Hoary on a P43.2HT laptop... flawless
[08:09] <drspin> Gladiak: what ACPI probs?
[08:09] <graabein> planning on trying online chess, monkeyball, maybe vega strike... freeciv...
[08:09] <Reblend-for6mins> Gladiak, the special buttons don't work, yet
[08:09] <ccelio> Gladiak, my laptop have problems with acpi, i am using apm.... but suspend dont work
[08:09] <Panzerboy> hey all
[08:10] <graabein> heya panzer
[08:10] <Gladiak> argh
[08:10] <ccelio> Gladiak, it is an old laptop, compaq armada 1700
[08:10] <Reblend-for6mins> with a 6 second Ubuntu bootup time.. who needs suspend? =p
[08:10] <Gladiak> drspin, acpi doesn't see if i plug or not ac
[08:10] <Gladiak> ops
[08:10] <Gladiak> gone
[08:10] <Gladiak> :/
[08:11] <graabein> 6 seconds... wow...
[08:11] <Reblend-for6mins> someone had to really tweak it to get that...
[08:11] <Gladiak> mmm i'll try live cd
[08:11] <graabein> listening to traffic... nice band...
[08:12] <darren> Anyone know of a new output plugin that I can download for xmms?
[08:12] <epicenter_> to do .. what?
[08:12] <epicenter_> graabein: I know of Trafik. Not the same?
[08:12] <Gladiak> ah sorry another question...ubuntu has already k3b installed by default ?
[08:12] <graabein> don't think so... english 60-70's
[08:12] <epicenter_> This is 2000's techno ambient
[08:13] <epicenter_> very different
[08:13] <graabein> okey! not the same then, hehe
[08:13] <epicenter_> No idea what country it's from
[08:13] <b2s> Gladiak: k3b is installed in kubuntu by default, but not ubuntu
[08:13] <epicenter_> the lyrics make no sense but that's typical of music from english speaking countries too
[08:13] <graabein> i like brian eno and a couple other ambients... hmmm...
[08:13] <Gladiak> ok tnx :)
[08:13] <thoreauputic> Gladiak: no - but kubuntu hhas it I think
[08:13] <epicenter_> yeah, check out Trafik's stuff
[08:13] <graabein> allright. ill look them up
[08:14] <epicenter_> my favorite is Echoes
[08:14] <epicenter_> graabein: if I can, I'll DCC you a track.
[08:14] <graabein> hmmm... havent gotten anything up yet... just got online for the very first time!
[08:14] <mindmedic> epicenter, n.e.w. output plugin.... nano enhanced wavelets
[08:15] <graabein> dcc is through irc??
[08:15] <Koljonen> ] BreliC[, thanks, but it just gets stuck :( even the mouse cursor doesn't move anymore, i've tried several times now
[08:15] <epicenter_> yep
[08:15] <Casco_Osc> only one question: why gaim install messenger package depends of a system metapackage?
[08:16] <Casco_Osc> i want to remove that package, but it totally depends of ubuntu-desktop, and i don't want to have Gaim installed
[08:16] <totalshredder> just curious, (for you people on ubuntu), are using xchat or gaim?
[08:17] <Casco_Osc> xchat and amsn
[08:17] <Jesterace> i'm using xchat
[08:17] <b2s> I'm using irssi
[08:17] <graabein> hmmm... how do i do this... accept-button doesnt react...
[08:17] <epicenter_> ouch
[08:17] <Casco_Osc> how can i remove Gaim without removing ubuntu-desktop package?
[08:17] <epicenter_> hrm well, IM me nad I can send it there. IRC is less cooperative.
[08:17] <epicenter_> "epicenter713"
[08:17] <Casco_Osc> that dependency really sux
[08:17] <epicenter_> on AIM
[08:18] <zanaga> Casco_Osc: why do you want to remove it?
[08:18] <da_bon_bon> Casco_Osc: apt-get remove gaim
[08:18] <Casco_Osc> zanaga, because i don't use it: it's only wasting disk space :)
[08:18] <Kishu> how can i configure grub so i can boot winxp?
[08:18] <b2s> Casco_Osc: its not that annoying.  what irritates me is that I can't remove lvm10 or lvm2 without removing ubuntu-base
[08:19] <Casco_Osc> da_bon_bon, i know about apt-get, the problem is that gai mdepends of ubuntu-desktop
[08:19] <zanaga> Casco_Osc: all 2 megs of it
[08:19] <graabein> hmmm... epicenter713 at hotmail not a valid passport...
[08:19] <totalshredder> Kish: There are some how-tos on the forums
[08:19] <_membreya> I need to allow port 6543 on my box...I've edited /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services...what else do I need to do ?
[08:19] <da_bon_bon> ah, 5mb is soooo precious! :P
[08:19] <Servo888> Ok update - it looks like ubuntu is not using the 24mb secondary memory, but only the onboard 8mb. Which is why the kernel panics when loading the kernel on boot of the install cd.
[08:19] <groo> _membreya, did you restart the inetd server?
[08:19] <graabein> but epicenter, don't bother, ill check them out some other time!
[08:20] <thoreauputic> Casco_Osc: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage - removing it won't break your system
[08:20] <sig> http://harrisplace.net/screenshots/Ubuntu-Screenshots/gnomebaker.png
[08:20] <libben> Casco_Osc, just remove the desktop package.. its just a meta package.. its safe to remove
[08:20] <b2s> unfortunately, ubuntu-base says that upgrades won't work right if it is removed :(
[08:20] <epicenter_> graabein: also get Step Lively, Systematic, Burma, 45 minutes and Pathfinder
[08:21] <Casco_Osc> thoreauputic, i thought that, but i think remove it could is a bit dangerous
[08:21] <Casco_Osc> thank you all
[08:21] <epicenter_> graabein: best mixes are by Petter, "pako and frederik"
[08:21] <_membreya> groo: yup, myth is still reporting "Failed to bind port: 6543"
[08:21] <Borg^Queen> Hi, I was just using ubuntu with KDE and I can't find kwikdisk. Is it gone from ubuntu?
[08:21] <epicenter_> Graabein: Oh, "your light" is great too
[08:21] <thoreauputic> Casco_Osc: you can reinstall it if it bothers you :)
[08:21] <da_bon_bon> Casco_Osc: try using synaptic
[08:21] <Casco_Osc> :)
[08:21] <graabein> is this all by traffik?
[08:22] <Casco_Osc> da_bon_bon, i prefer dpkg
[08:22] <Borg^Queen> kwikdisk anyone? Is it gone?
[08:22] <zxc> I've managed to mount my Fat32 datashare drive but I don't know how to access it, any ideas?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> Borg^Queen: what does `which kwikdisk` say, if anything?
[08:22] <Casco_Osc> it's really curious, i prefer dpkg instead of apt-get in shell and synaptic
[08:22] <Casco_Osc> Borg^Queen, ask it in #kubuntu channel
[08:22] <Borg^Queen> which kwikdisk?
[08:23] <Casco_Osc> zxc, have you edited properly /etc/fstab?
[08:23] <thoreauputic> Borg^Queen: it's a command :)
[08:23] <Borg^Queen> thoreauputic: I know, it the function gone?
[08:23] <da_bon_bon> Casco_Osc: ok. whatever. synaptic will help u do it, it helped me once!
[08:23] <thoreauputic> Borg^Queen: did you try typing what I said?
[08:24] <thoreauputic> which kwikdisk    <---- is a command
[08:24] <Borg^Queen> thoreauputic: ah, ok misread you. One sec
[08:24] <sig> apt-get install kwikdisk
[08:24] <Borg^Queen> thanks sig
[08:24] <sig> simple
[08:24] <thoreauputic> sig: I don't think it's a package
[08:24] <Borg^Queen> nor do I
[08:24] <sig> apt-file search kwikdisk
[08:25] <Borg^Queen> sig: thanks
[08:25] <freebug> hello everyone... I'm searching for help, about installing nForce2 onboard audio. I'm using ubuntu 5.04. Can anybody help me ?
[08:25] <epicenter_> freebug: I just had this issue with my NF3 most likely .What's wrong?
[08:25] <Borg^Queen> thoreauputic: returned nothing
[08:26] <sig> apt-file update
[08:26] <sig> then apt-file search kwikdisk
[08:26] <thoreauputic> Borg^Queen: it's a mounting applet, right?
[08:26] <Borg^Queen> thoreauputic: yes
[08:26] <freebug> epicenter, I don't know how to configure modules...
[08:26] <thoreauputic> Borg^Queen: maybe it's gone because of auto mounting stuff?
[08:26] <freebug> epicenter, I just compiled the driver, and I think the driver loads in startup
[08:26] <sig> Borg^Queen: one sec while my apt-file updates
[08:27] <Borg^Queen> thoreauputic: I think it's in kdeaddons
[08:27] <sig> this should tell you exactly what package it is contained in
[08:27] <Borg^Queen> Which isn't on a live cd
[08:27] <epicenter_> freebug: ..... what modules?
[08:27] <Borg^Queen> sig: thanks
[08:27] <sig> Borg^Queen: are you on liveCD?
[08:27] <freebug> epicenter, but I have the same problem. I can't hear anything, if I do not kill ESD, with XMMS
[08:27] <thoreauputic> Borg^Queen: ah, the live Cd
[08:27] <Borg^Queen> sig yes
[08:27] <neighborlee> is reiser 3.6 considerd stable ?..i've got some weird things going on and not sure if its related to that or the game files ( thus the games fault) itself..I'm referring to neverwinter ngihts..the game works fine in windows and for other linux users..but atm when I try to join the mujltiplayer areas via gamespy.,- the server 'list doesn't come up like its supposed to ..anyone seen this or have any idea whats causing it ?
[08:27] <Borg^Queen> Aye, that's what I said. A live cd.
[08:27] <doc_> how do you re-send your pw on nickserv?
[08:27] <freebug> epicenter, The modules ubuntu load by default, ac97 and intelxxx
[08:28] <Borg^Queen> Ok thanks people
[08:28] <doc_> my ID was stolen
[08:28] <epicenter_> freebug: Go to Control Center, sound, sound system, set auto-suspend if idle for .. to 1 second.
[08:28] <epicenter_> in KDE
[08:28] <epicenter_> I don't know in Gnome where it is ..
[08:29] <b2s> neighborlee: reiserfs has been stable for a while, but there are some weird problems associated with reiserfs+nwn
[08:29] <freebug> ok epicenter, I'll try it, thanks for your help !
[08:29] <neighborlee> b2s, oh reeeeeally
[08:29] <Montagh> i stuck a new board in, now i run into this kernal panic, something to do with ext3 corrupt blocks etc
[08:29] <epicenter_> freebug: Np, good luck!
[08:29] <neighborlee> b2s, interesting..i'm GLAD I asked ;-)
[08:30] <doc_> anyone know how to recover your password from nickserv
[08:30] <neighborlee> b2s, how did you discover this issue out of curiosity..forum search on ubuntu/nwn site ?
[08:30] <sig> doc_: /msg nickserv help
[08:30] <mishof> Hi, I've just installed a new hard disk drive, and made 30GB of it to an ext3 partition. how can i mount it - what should i write in /etc/fstab ?
[08:30] <b2s> I've been told nwn requires the mount option "nolargeio=1" to perform correctly on reiserfs
[08:30] <banshee_> What do you do, when you have extremely poor OpenGL-performance in Linux? I have the newest drivers, fairly up-to-date hardware (GeForece 5600 XT and an AMD64 3000+), but still I only get 9-10 fps in simple apps like glxgears... anyone?
[08:31] <MALAKY> ubuntu have modules for zyxel adsl modem?
[08:31] <Casco_Osc> banshee_, maybe you are rendering with mesagl
[08:31] <sig> banshee_: have you edited the xorg.conf after you installed the drivers ?
[08:31] <b2s> neighborlee: google :)  also when I was running nwn under mandrake I remember hearing about it (that was a while ago though)
[08:31] <freebug> epicenter, last question. Where is located control center, in the ubuntu's menues
[08:31] <Casco_Osc> you must install nvidia drivers
[08:31] <mjc> banshee_, install nvidia drivers and update xorg.conf
[08:31] <freebug> epicenter (sorry, I'm too newbie)
[08:31] <neighborlee> b2s, hmm...well as I say..the game works fine BUT atm the only 'werid' thing is that the gamespy server 'list' wont display....except for one consistent 'server' that eventually shows up..isn't that bizarre ?
[08:32] <neighborlee> b2s, oh ok..yeah Iknow..GIYF
[08:32] <banshee_> nVidia drivers are installed correctly (according to severeal guides/forums I've been to)
[08:32] <paulfox> what are the theories on what the business plan is for ubuntu? what is canonical gonna sell to make this distro pay off?
[08:32] <neighborlee> b2s, if all else fails..
[08:32] <neighborlee> b2s, k thx
[08:32] <sig> neighborlee: but how are you relating that to a file system ?
[08:32] <paulfox> don't get me wrong, i'm not complaining about the current price ;)
[08:32] <mishof> no1 here got 2 hard drives ??
[08:32] <sig> banshee_: have you edited the xorg.conf file ?
[08:32] <Cwiiis> Can anyone tell me what the name of the next Ubuntu release will be? I couldn't find it with wiki searches... Also, does anyone know if there's an apt archive with slightly older debs? I need the nvidia 6xxx series driver, but I can't find all old enough packages, the CD doesn't have the k7 packages and I'd rather not build it myself
[08:33] <banshee_> sig; Yeah, I have
[08:33] <thoreauputic> paulfox: I guess they sell expertise :)
[08:33] <mjg59> Cwiiis: morgue.ubuntu.com
[08:33] <Casco_Osc> in hoary, drivers are packaged and installation is very easy, you don't need to edit manually xorg.conf
[08:33] <Cwiiis> excellent, thanks mjg59 :)
[08:33] <b2s> Casco_Osc: speak for yourself!
[08:34] <b2s> I had to manually edit my xorg.conf when I installed ati binary drivers
[08:34] <mishof> can someone with 2 hard drives please paste his line regarding second hard drive from /etc/fstab over here?
[08:34] <Casco_Osc> don't remember the command, but, when you install the nvidia-module package, youonly need to run a script
[08:34] <Casco_Osc> sudo dontremember
[08:34] <_membreya> mythbackend     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /etc/init.d/myt$
[08:34] <_membreya> I need to allow port 6543 on my box...I've edited /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services and restarted inetd...what else do I need to do ? fyi /etc/inetd.conf has
[08:34] <_membreya> erm ....
[08:34] <Casco_Osc> the command is in the package information
[08:34] <_membreya> mythbackend     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /etc/init.d/mythbackend
[08:35] <_membreya> is that the right format?
[08:35] <banshee_> Could it be that the apps somehow use the wrong lib?
[08:35] <Cwiiis> mjg59: Is there a way to search this morgue? I don't know what date these drivers were updated... And does this covere the restricted repo?
[08:37] <mishof> Can someone please help with my simple question ?
[08:37] <sig> mishof: what is it
[08:37] <mishof> sig, what should i add to /etc/fstab in order to mount a 2nd hard drive
[08:37] <mishof> sig, ive made an ext3 partition on it
[08:37] <sig> what is the name of the device (second hd)?
[08:37] <mishof> hdb1
[08:38] <Casco_Osc> well, bye all
[08:39] <sig> mishof: add that so it looks similar to the one already in there
[08:39] <sig> just make sure the fs is ext3 like you said and the correct device hdb1
[08:39] <sig> I'm getting you a reference now from google one sec
[08:39] <neighborlee> sig: well i'm not sure I 'am
[08:39] <sig> http://www.cae.wisc.edu/site/public/?title=linfstab
[08:39] <sig> neighborlee: ?
[08:40] <neighborlee> sig: I was just saying I 'suspect' that as faik ubuntu is now 'stable'..so it was a best guess from  hearing varoius things about reiserfs < 4?
[08:40] <Montagh> ive run into this problem with ext3 block corruption or something
[08:40] <Montagh> ends up in kernel panic
[08:41] <sig> neighborlee: well your problem wouldn't be from a filesystem type
[08:41] <sig> expecially that
[08:41] <neighborlee> sig neighborlee: but how are you relating that to a file system ? : so i was just answering..if however semi late ( I have company sorry )
[08:41] <neighborlee> gtg..bbl
[08:41] <neighborlee> sig: I meant as in possible 'corruption'
[08:42] <neighborlee> sig: what else would it be..no one else is seeing this issue in both linux or windows..only thing differnt is i'm running ubuntu with reiserfs...so you guess is what then ?
[08:42] <mishof> sig, I'm having a problem- it seems as if i cant write to that partition ..
[08:42] <neighborlee> anyway gtg..if you want to address this please PM me so ill be sure to get it when I get back okay??..thx ..bye <<<<<<<
[08:42] <Faw_> hello, I installed Ubuntu 5.04-i386 and Lilo is hanging with L 99. I have a SCSI CD, and the boot disk is an ATA in the secondary IDE.
[08:42] <sig> mishof: in fstab make sure it is writable by you
[08:42] <sig> neighborlee: that is "NOT" a fs problem
[08:43] <sig> bbl
[08:43] <LGius> is there any news aboout Ati IGP345M chipset support? on my HP Pavilion ze5630us fresh Ubuntu 5.04 install I'm getting only 319.800 FPS with glxgears
[08:43] <dr_willis> Hmm. I thought ubuntu used grub by default.
[08:44] <DocUb> what's the command to recover my password on this irc server?
[08:44] <groo> yeah
[08:44] <thoreauputic> Faw_: you have lilo on Hoary? Are you dual booting another distro?
[08:44] <DocUb> msg nickserv help is not useful
[08:44] <Faw_> I used XFS filesystem, the install told me there could be problems with GRUB
[08:44] <thoreauputic> ah, I see
[08:45] <Cred> Hello. I get "could not open resource for writing" with Rhythmbox, running Hoary with nForce2 and SB Live. Can someone here help me?
[08:45] <thoreauputic> didn't know that one...
[08:45] <groo> Faw_, what was wrong with ext3?
[08:45] <Faw_> i don't know I guess I trust XFS more
[08:45] <kent> Cred, can you get sound from other programs? like totem, xmms, beep media player etc?
[08:46] <Cred> kent, yes. Atleast from totem I can.
[08:46] <Cred> kent, I don't have XMMS or bmp.
[08:46] <thoreauputic> Faw_: interesting - why do you trust XFS over bog-standard ext3  ?
[08:47] <DocUb> .
[08:47] <Kishu> how do i make a linux boot disk
[08:47] <groo> has anyone successfully shared their printer using samba/cups?
[08:47] <groo> Kishu, i think there might be images for floppy and cd
[08:48] <Kishu> groo, any idea where they might be? :)
[08:48] <groo> Kishu, just google 'linux boot image' or something.
[08:49] <Faw_> i've seen some benchmarks that say it's faster
[08:49] <Cwiiis> I notice there have been no updated for hoary in the last few days... Is that a purposeful thing, or just coincidence?
[08:49] <Cwiiis> *updates
[08:49] <crimsun> Cwiiis: it's _frozen_
[08:49] <crimsun> Cwiiis: that's why we call it a "stable" release.
[08:49] <groo> no new updates for 6 months
[08:49] <Cwiiis> crimsun: ah, ok - for how long for? Is there another version I can dist-upgrade to that isn't frozen?
[08:49] <groo> well beta stuff
[08:50] <crimsun> Cwiiis: hoary will not receive package updates unless they are critical or security updates
[08:50] <Cred> kent, so any idea why sound doesn't work?
[08:50] <kent> Cred, do you have the default totem from ubuntu, or totem with xine?
[08:50] <crimsun> Cwiiis: breezy will be the next devel branch
[08:50] <Cwiiis> crimsun: I take it it isn't up yet though?
[08:50] <groo> just curious cwiiis but why do you need that?
[08:51] <crimsun> Cred: paste the output of lsmod, lspci -v, cat /proc/asound/cards, dmesg, and amixer to http://pastebin.com
[08:51] <groo> hoary was just released friday.
[08:51] <Cred> kent, it is totem with xine
[08:51] <thoreauputic> Cwiiis: it's only been 4 days
[08:51] <Cwiiis> groo: There's a new version of wesnoth out :) Will just compile myself it looks like
[08:51] <groo> ah
[08:53] <groo> cred what sound card are you using?
[08:53] <sig> who was asking about kwikdisk ?
[08:54] <kent> Cred, Ok.  From system menu in the panel. You can go to Preferences. In there, there is a program to choose the default output  for sound in gnome. Make sure its set to esd.  And from system->preferences,  there is a tool called something like "audio" (in swedish atleast), run it and make sure that the soundserver is running.
[08:54] <thoreauputic> crimsun: do you know if Hoary has improved Ogg Theora support for VLC ? I'm on Warty still...
[08:55] <sig> thoreauputic: root@idaho:~ # apt-cache search kdf
[08:55] <sig> kdeutils - KDE Utilities metapackage
[08:55] <sig> kdf - KDE disk free
[08:55] <crimsun> thoreauputic: that would depend on the versions of the theora libs it was compiled against; I haven't checked
[08:55] <sig> looks like kwikdisk is in KDE Utilities
[08:55] <Cred> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/270509 for lsmod, http://pastebin.com/270511 for lspci and http://pastebin.com/270513 for rest
[08:55] <sig> errr
[08:55] <Kishu> anyone know how to make a ubuntu boot disk?
[08:55] <Cred> groo, I'd like to use my SB live
[08:55] <sig> I mean kdf - KDE disk Free
[08:56] <sig> "kdf"
[08:56] <thoreauputic> crimsun: OK - no big deal - xine works well anyway :)  Thanks!
[08:56] <kent> Cred, if this is a new install of ubuntu, I would also recomend you to file a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <kent> Cred, and follow crimsuns adwise since he knows more than me :)
[08:56] <Cred> kent, those are set (ESD and sound server)
[08:56] <Cred> This is not a new installation. Same since Warty..
[08:56] <] BreliC[> Cwiiis, have you played Planeshift yet?
[08:57] <sig> Dr_Aevil: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=UPSTREAM&bug_status=PENDINGUPLOAD&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=gnome-volume-manager&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=gnome-volume-manager&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=gnome-volume-manager&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=g
[08:57] <sig> nome-volume-manager  <-- a lot more turned up
[08:57] <Cwiiis> ] BreliC[: I tried it some time ago, I couldn't get it working properly and gave up pretty quickly... Online RPG, right?
[08:57] <thoreauputic> sig: was that really necesary?
[08:57] <Cred> crimsun, "usb-audio" set as default.. that seems odd. Correct?
[08:57] <Kishu> how can I make an ubuntu boot disk?
[08:57] <sig> thoreauputic: yes it was but I didn't realize how big that url was
[08:58] <sig> it is a bug that we are working on
[08:58] <] BreliC[> Cwiiis, yeah.  but i think it's come a long way since then.  i was just wondering if i should give it another shot.  website and screenshots look great
[08:58] <Cwiiis> ] BreliC[: Ah, no idea I'm afraid - If you've got the time, why not I s'pose :)
[08:58] <crimsun> Cred: that doesn't seem odd, it's that way for most motherboards
[08:58] <Cred> Oh ok :)
[08:58] <] BreliC[> heh, true enough.  free is good
[08:59] <crimsun> Cred: I presume you wish to use your sblive for most audio?
[08:59] <Cred> crimsun, yes please.
[08:59] <topyli> Kishu: you have a boot cd, no? dunno how to make a floppy
[08:59] <crimsun> Cred: then do this: echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[08:59] <zAo^> does composite already work with ATI?
[09:00] <crimsun> Cred: then do: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
[09:00] <Kishu> topyli, I have the installation cd, would that work?
[09:00] <mjr> zAo^, sure, just slowly at least with the xcompmgr
[09:00] <crimsun> Cred: you may have to log out and back in for the volume settings to take effect
[09:00] <CaPS_> Hey, on windows there's this feature where you type " and then press e to get e-umlaut.. Is there a way to get this going on ubuntu aswell ?
[09:01] <zAo^> mjc, can I keep my DRI?
[09:01] <topyli> Kishu: yes. there are boot options. install, rescue, boot existing
[09:01] <Kishu> tpyli, oh ok... thanks
[09:01] <Cred> crimsun, ok. Just a sec
[09:02] <agony> I'm new to Ubuntu (as of today) and I'm loving it so far. Should I follow www.ubuntuguide.org or is there a better "first document" to read? I don't wanna mess something up.
[09:03] <LGius> my notebook is not reacting when I'm swiching AC power :(  /usr/sbin/power nowd -q is running
[09:03] <Cred> crimsun, didn't work.
[09:03] <crimsun> Cred: meaning?
[09:03] <Koljonen> ] BreliC[, i got it working after all, i was trying to mount the wrong partition :-)
[09:03] <CaPS_> anyone?
[09:04] <Cred> crimsun, no sound from Rhythmbox. Same error. Totem works fine.
[09:04] <mjc> hey crimsun
[09:04] <crimsun> Cred: did you check to see that esd is running like Kent suggested?
[09:04] <crimsun> 'lo mjc
[09:04] <mjc> fancy finding you here =)
[09:05] <LGius> who could point me to the right answer about powernowd ?
[09:05] <Cred> crimsun, Multimedia Systems Selector does have ESD selected but "Test" gives an error.
[09:05] <zAo^> sorry CaPS_  donno
[09:05] <crimsun> Cred: pgrep esd
[09:06] <kishu> how do I activate GRUB??
[09:06] <Cred> crimsun, nothing.
[09:06] <kishu> I have everything installed, but it wont activate at boot?
[09:06] <topyli> kishu: better yet, get something like http://www.sysresccd.org/ so you'll never be in trouble (if you know linux)
[09:06] <djp> anyone use totem-gstreamer?
[09:06] <kent> crimsun, Cred that only changes the default output. You have to make sure the soundserver is running aswell. Its in another program in the system-preference-menu
[09:06] <crimsun> Cred: then you need to start it. Did you check System>Preferences>Sound and make sure that "Enable sound server startup" is enabled?
[09:07] <Ironfrost> I have a Microsoft Multimedia keyboard (with the extra keys to command various functions like sound etc), and have set it up, but XMMS doesn't want to listen to it
[09:07] <Cred> crimsun & kent, yes. The soundserver checkbox is checked.
[09:07] <Ironfrost> does anyone know how to set it up properly?
[09:07] <dockane> Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Ubuntu!
[09:07] <agony> Is there a better "first document" than ubuntuguide.org? I don't wanna mess something up.
[09:07] <Choubaka> :D
[09:08] <Choubaka> dockane: Yay.
[09:08] <dockane> :P
[09:08] <crimsun> Cred: did you log out and back in?
[09:08] <Cred> crimsun, I did. Should I reboot?
[09:08] <kishu> anyone, how can I activate GRUB so that it activates at boot? I have it installed, but it just boots ubuntu and no GRUB
[09:08] <topyli> kishu: first of all, if the installation doesn't install grub properly, you should file a bug
[09:08] <crimsun> Cred: no need. Just open a Terminal and execute esd
[09:09] <kishu> topyli, am I not supposed to activate GRUB or something?
[09:09] <Choubaka> esd still gives me the creeps
[09:09] <topyli> kishu: to fix, you need to run grub-install (i guess)
[09:09] <Choubaka> it's teh ew.
[09:09] <kent> crimsun, strange that pgrep esd dont show something, even though it should be running according to the Sound-program in the menu.
[09:09] <zAo^> kishu, what is the timeout? (/boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:09] <topyli> kishu: or reinstall grub
[09:09] <dockane> Choubaka, may i try this in #gentoo :)
[09:09] <crimsun> kent: state collision, happens from time to time
[09:09] <imcsk8> hello, i have a problem configuring xorg for hoary: the video card of my pc is a i810, that's how dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg detectes it, all the configuration process goes without problem but i can't get more than a 640x480 resoultion
[09:09] <Cred> crimsun, nothing seems to happen. pgrep esd doesn't list anything.
[09:09] <crimsun> kent: a reboot would fix it
[09:09] <edulix> hi !
[09:10] <blue-imac> is anyone here knowledgale with xfce?
[09:10] <crimsun> Cred: no, _execute_ (as in start) esd
[09:10] <kishu> Oh well, I just reinstalled grub, let me see if it works now.
[09:10] <Choubaka> dockane: Are you suicidal?
[09:10] <dockane> Choubaka, not yet. :)
[09:10] <Cred> crimsun, I did. I typed esd in terminal and tried sudo esd too
[09:10] <jeffmc> imcsk8, I found something that worked
[09:10] <edulix> t appears that system slowsdown just when my laptop fans start to spin vigorously. does it make sense ?
[09:10] <brenx> Hi
[09:10] <crimsun> Cred: typing esd should be enough. Did it spit out errors?
[09:11] <Cred> crimsun, nothing came out.
[09:11] <crimsun> Cred: did it return you to a prompt, or is it sitting there?
[09:11] <blue-imac> edulix: that sounds like processor throttling due to heat
[09:11] <jeffmc> use the livecd, and look at the /etc/x11/xorg.conf file
[09:11] <jeffmc> then make your non-live install match it
[09:11] <Cred> crimsun, it did return so it didn't hang.
[09:12] <crimsun> Cred: cat /proc/asound/cards -> pastebin.com
[09:13] <smhar> what are the main advantages of ubuntu over debian testing?
[09:13] <Choubaka> Predictability.
[09:13] <dockane> crimsun: is there something like pastebin for pictures ?
[09:13] <edulix> blue-imac: uhm, it could make sense, because when everything gets slow, I see that cpu usage averages 85-95%, and it's not 1 program but all of them
[09:14] <Cred> crimsun, the output is same as in http://pastebin.com/270513
[09:14] <edulix> but I belive that cpu usage is always at 1.2 Ghz: that's what cat /proc/cpuinfo tells me
[09:14] <smhar> I didn't understand
[09:14] <crimsun> smhar: 1) released, stable; 2) 18 months (at least) of support; 3) release every 6 months; 4) more software than you can shake a stick at
[09:14] <Choubaka> smhar: also, not having to download 200 MB of updates every other week :
[09:14] <crimsun> Cred: exactly the same? Then reboot.
[09:14] <blue-imac> edulix: yeah, that sounds like your processor is getting too hot and slowing down... is there a way, maybe in your BIOS, to enable the fan all the time? Maybe you can get it to stay cool, and fast.
[09:14] <Cred> crimsun, exactly. I'll reboot :)
[09:14] <Choubaka> Hmm.
[09:15] <Choubaka> I think my processor is partly fucked up.
[09:15] <delire> Xyrouz: hej
[09:15] <blue-imac> edulix: either that or see if you can tweak the fan to start spinning sooner, so that the cpu doesn't heat up so much.
[09:15] <smhar> crimsun, what software ubuntu has that is not available for debian testing?
[09:15] <ztonzy> delire, yo :)
[09:15] <delire> hehe hi
[09:16] <Choubaka> I get a hard lockup every time I do something intensive, like gimping. :p
[09:16] <delire> ztonzy: dropped out the other day, i was on a borrowed access point if you know what i mean ;)
[09:16] <Xyrouz> delire: do i know you ?
[09:16] <ztonzy> delire, got issues here...so I had to re-install system, running a fresh Ubuntu now
[09:16] <Choubaka> and running lives is a 100% sure way to kill my system.
[09:16] <smhar> Choubaka, aren't those 200mb newer than what ubuntu has atthe time
[09:16] <delire> Xyrouz: *.dk addr
[09:16] <crimsun> smhar: quite a few packages, namely latest stable gnome and kde in addition to many other packages. See packages.ubuntu.com
[09:16] <ztonzy> delire, heh...yes you just vanished like that
[09:16] <delire> ztonzy: so why the reinstall?
[09:16] <Xyrouz> delire: jep... du er s ogs fra DK eller hva :)
[09:16] <Choubaka> smhar: who cares about slightly newer software? and no.
[09:17] <Choubaka> Danish looks so much like Swedish
[09:17] <ztonzy> delire, long story...can take it PM then (if)
[09:17] <delire> Xyrouz: hehe in actuality i don't speak danish (yet), just visiting on work for a few months;)
[09:17] <Xyrouz> Choubake, kind of...
[09:17] <Cred> crimsun, yay! It works.
[09:17] <Xyrouz> delire, hehe okay :)
[09:17] <delire> ztonzy: sure pm
[09:17] <august> #eaL
[09:17] <_membreya> Choubaka: what type of video card do you have?
[09:17] <Cred> crimsun, now I had sounds at login. Thank you so much.
[09:17] <Choubaka> Xyrouz: You know, they're actually more alike than Mandarin and Cantonese. :p
[09:18] <InitMass> which module has to be loaded to get info about the CPU temp?
[09:18] <delire> Xyrouz: (just trying out my *.dk "Hi")
[09:18] <djpate_> can anyone help me - i need to find out how to pass the filename while creating a custom launch on gnome
[09:18] <Choubaka> _membreya: GeForce 4 MX
[09:18] <Xappe> Choubaka: yes, in text...not at all in speech. Danish is like Swedeish with porrage interference :)
[09:18] <blue-imac> anyone here know xfce?
[09:18] <Choubaka> Xappe: well, yeah.
[09:18] <_membreya> Choubaka: edit your xorg.conf and comment out the line for renderaccel ..then restart X and see if it makes a diff ;)
[09:18] <Xyrouz> blue-imac, yes
[09:18] <Choubaka> I don't have renderaccel.
[09:18] <Choubaka> :)
[09:19] <Xappe> <-- Swede
[09:19] <_membreya> >:(
[09:19] <Choubaka> If I used renderaccel, it'd lock up all the time.
[09:19] <Choubaka> also, using composite kills my comp
[09:19] <Choubaka> but this is a case of crappy hardware.
[09:19] <Choubaka> At least I can still surf the net and IRC and listen to music :)
[09:20] <blue-imac> Xyrouz: I need a little help... I installed from the 5.04 pre-release CD, and then updated to 5.04 latest, now the background in XFCE is simply brown... even though I have a picture (and colors) set in the control panel.
[09:20] <blue-imac> Choubaka: don't complain about crappy hardware intul you're running on less that a 266 imac!
[09:20] <blue-imac> intul == until
[09:21] <Choubaka> blue-imac: I don't mean crappy hardware as slow hardware.
[09:21] <Choubaka> I mean my hardware is utter CRAP
[09:21] <Xyrouz> had kind of the same problem once... in XFce there is 2 tabs with wallpapers, when you set it... Just choose the same in both of then, worked for me...
[09:21] <blue-imac> heh, i do!
[09:21] <Choubaka> and broken, too
[09:21] <blue-imac> Xyrouz: ok, will try that
[09:21] <Xyrouz> k
[09:21] <blue-imac> Choubaka: well, i consider 64mb of ram max "broken" don't you?   :-)
[09:22] <Choubaka> No.
[09:22] <crimsun> Cred: np
[09:22] <NiklasDoe> Isn't there an i686 release for Ubuntu?
[09:22] <Choubaka> I consider not workiness broken
[09:22] <Choubaka> NiklasDoe: err?
[09:22] <_membreya> i need a new PC ..amd64 3200 isn't fast enough :(
[09:22] <blue-imac> :-(
[09:22] <crimsun> NiklasDoe: there're i686-specific kernel and libc, yes
[09:22] <Choubaka> _membreya: Err? :D
[09:22] <crimsun> NiklasDoe: but no specific i686 release
[09:23] <Choubaka> a i686 specific release would be just stupid.
[09:23] <_membreya> Choubaka: it's not ..1 min to load kubuntu ...grrr
[09:23] <Choubaka> :)
[09:23] <LGius> my computer is not reacting on switching of AC power... It's showing that notebooks is still running on AC. powerdnow, p4_clockmod. Intel Pentium 4 Mobile.
[09:23] <Choubaka> _membreya: how many GHz was it again?
[09:23] <eyequeue> crimsun:  i've found polypaudio seems to work better for me here than esound.  is there anything of which i should be wary?
[09:23] <_membreya> amd64 3200 = 2.2GHz (but with powernow it throttles down to 1GHz once everything is loaded)
[09:23] <Choubaka> And I don't turn off my computer, ever, so I wouldn't know.
[09:24] <Choubaka> _membreya: Mine is 1.2 GHz :p
[09:24] <NiklasDoe> No but i meant, the one you can download now is named ubuntu-5.04-install-i386
[09:24] <crimsun> eyequeue: not that I know of. I use polypaudio myself at home, but at work, because I use the livecd, I don't seem to notice anything absurd.
[09:24] <_membreya> Choubaka: yes but "technically" mine beats the pants off a P4 3.2 ;)
[09:24] <blue-imac> Xyrouz: does the "enable gnome services" have anything to do with it? I'm using gdm -- what about esd? should it start automatically?
[09:24] <Choubaka> NiklasDoe: That doesn't matter.
[09:24] <Choubaka> NiklasDoe: It'll work just as fast on a i686
[09:24] <eyequeue> crimsun:  great, thanks
[09:25] <Choubaka> you gain _nothing_ by making a i686 -release
[09:25] <Choubaka> except less compatibility :)
[09:25] <delire> blue-imac: esd is a pain in the arse..
[09:25] <Choubaka> _membreya: :p
[09:25] <Xyrouz> blue-imac: dont think that gnome has anything to do with it... but i dont use ubuntu, so i dont know what kind of weird thing they have done :P using debian...
[09:25] <Choubaka> esd is the sound daemon gnome uses, right?
[09:25] <Choubaka> :p
[09:26] <delire> blue-imac: i use debian, so can't check for you right now, though would say disable esd and try again.
[09:26] <Choubaka> using sound daemons kills my comp as well
[09:26] <blue-imac> Xyrouz: should esd have to run for xfce? or should I be using something else?
[09:26] <delire> Choubaka: what do you mean 'kill'?
[09:26] <Choubaka> crash. murder. whatever.
[09:26] <Choubaka> my computer is really flaky
[09:26] <blue-imac> Choubaka: the line "daemons kills my comp" should be famous...  :-)
[09:26] <Xyrouz> if you have to use a sound daemon, esd would be the choise for xfce, i think...
[09:26] <blue-imac> Xyrouz: ok, cool
[09:26] <Choubaka> xfce is wonderful. :|
[09:27] <delire> Choubaka: what seems to be the problem? you've installed Ubuntu and you have poor performance?
[09:27] <Xyrouz> xfce IS nice...
[09:27] <Choubaka> delire: no. not just with ubuntu
[09:27] <no0tic> ptal-init setup doesn't recognize my HP officejet 1150
[09:27] <blue-imac> and very ... not sucky... {grin} on this computer.
[09:27] <delire> Choubaka: a recent install or a recent upgrade (to Hoary)?
[09:27] <Choubaka> This is not a software-specific problem.
[09:27] <NiklasDoe> Okey. My sound doesnt work, and some dude said something about it being cuz i used a kernel that was optimized for i386 i dunno
[09:28] <crimsun> NiklasDoe: erm, I don't think that's the root cause.
[09:28] <Choubaka> It would make no difference whether I had Ubuntu, Debian, FC, Gentoo or Windows.
[09:28] <LGius> less #ubuntu | grep "Pentium 4 Mobile" > no answer?
[09:28] <Choubaka> except windows would crash way more.
[09:28] <crimsun> NiklasDoe: what sound card do you have?
[09:28] <crimsun> delire: absolutely _not_
[09:28] <mjc> LGius, model name      : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 2.40GHz
[09:28] <crimsun> delire: it was ripped out of alsa-utils for very good reasons
[09:28] <NiklasDoe> Creative soundblaster Audigy 2
[09:29] <crimsun> NiklasDoe: please paste the output of cat /proc/asound/cards to http://pastebin.com
[09:29] <crimsun> NiklasDoe: and amixer, too
[09:29] <Choubaka> Anyway, the only thing that can fix this is getting a new computer. :)
[09:29] <NiklasDoe> Okey, I'll just have to boot into linux first
[09:29] <crimsun> NiklasDoe: the latter being more important.
[09:29] <LGius> mjc,  Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4     CPU 2.30GHz
[09:29] <Choubaka> I'll probably go with a mac if I can afford one someday.
[09:29] <NiklasDoe> k
[09:29] <LGius> mjc, problems with powermanagement
[09:29] <no0tic> I can't use my HP scanner
[09:29] <Choubaka> I'm tired of PC hardware :(
[09:30] <mjc> LGius, what specifically's wrong? only thing that doesn't work for me is suspend because of nvidia driver
[09:30] <delire> ..
[09:31] <LGius> mjc, after switching of AC, applet is still showing that comp running on AC
[09:34] <_-InMa-_> good night, buenas noches
[09:34] <zxc> what's the mount all command?
[09:34] <crimsun> mount -a ?
[09:35] <zxc> ah k, I didn't know but was told to do it
[09:35] <NiklasDoe> crimsun: It's pretty much to paste :P
[09:35] <crimsun> NiklasDoe: onto http://pastebin.com ?
[09:35] <zxc> when i mount -a it says "[mntent] : line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad
[09:35] <zxc> ", can anyone help?
[09:35] <crimsun> what's line 10 of it?
[09:36] <NiklasDoe> http://www.pastebin.com/270527 crimsun
[09:36] <crimsun> NiklasDoe: unmute the Analog/Digital Output Jack
[09:37] <_paul> hi, can someone tell me whats the story with libdvdcss2, i cant seem to find it at all, in the respitories or on the web!
[09:38] <crimsun> _paul: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:38] <crimsun> ^brk3
[09:38] <brk3> crimsun: thanks
[09:39] <edulix> now i my fan has just started to spin
[09:41] <libben> how can i check my path's ?
[09:41] <mvirkkil> Can I browse the hwdb info somewhere online?
[09:41] <brk3> crimsun: ok, i found the list of mirrors, but is there no ubuntu package for it anymore
[09:41] <mvirkkil> libben: What do you mean?
[09:41] <Boogieman> hello
[09:41] <libben> wanna see my paths... if its linked
[09:42] <petemc> libben: echo $PATH
[09:42] <mvirkkil> libben: What paths? The paths for executables?
[09:42] <crimsun> brk3: did you follow the directions on RestrictedFormats ?
[09:42] <mvirkkil> libben:  echo $PATH
[09:42] <ogra> mvirkkil, just open the client a second time
[09:42] <libben> i made a ~/bin/shellscriptfile and i cant get it to run unless i type ./script
[09:43] <mvirkkil> ogra: I'm not using ubuntu atm.
[09:43] <mvirkkil> ogra: What website are they sent to?
[09:43] <ogra> mvirkkil, you will need the id from the client to find the data.....
[09:43] <brk3> crimsun: wait i see what im doing wrong, sorry!
[09:43] <mvirkkil> libben: You need to add that path to the PATH variable
[09:43] <sIQ|Steboyuk> hello
[09:43] <Boogieman> at the moment i use mandrake 10.1 and have only a very small knowledge about linux. is it possible for me to install and run ubuntu? i read that it is based on debian and that scares me a little
[09:43] <mvirkkil> ogra: What's the site?
[09:43] <sIQ|Steboyuk> i have a problem
[09:43] <crimsun> Boogieman: it shouldn't frighten you.
[09:44] <sIQ|Steboyuk> i have install vncserver via apt-get but when i type vncserver all i get is blank x session
[09:44] <Anders1> Boogieman: why does that scare you?
[09:44] <libben> mvirkkil, i have it in my ~/.bash_profile
[09:44] <sIQ|Steboyuk> no programs, no xterm.. no nothing
[09:44] <libben> it says ~/bin there
[09:44] <virtuald> my gnome is broken :/ when i start it it says my session lasted less than 10 seconds, and that i should try safe mode, but that gives the same error :/ how do i check why it happens?
[09:44] <crimsun> virtuald: look in ~/.xsession-errors
[09:44] <mvirkkil> libben: Then logout and log in?
[09:44] <virtuald> ok
[09:44] <sIQ|Steboyuk> anyone know how i can set up a vncserver from commandline to look at my current desktop i have up?
[09:45] <sIQ|Steboyuk> my monitor is broken and its going to be a pain restarting :(
[09:45] <ailleantsian> does anyone have a belkin wireless card that has sucessfully installed it ?
[09:45] <Boogieman> because i tried to install debian once and the installer tells me strange things about the packets i need to install another. like sounds packets for system administration program
[09:45] <kingsley> I've found a way to reliably crash X and would appreciate some feedback on how I might diagnose, and ideally fix, it.
[09:45] <sIQ|Steboyuk> anyone know how i can set up a vncserver from commandline to look at my current desktop i have up????
[09:46] <sIQ|Steboyuk> Warning: ubuntu:0 is not taken because of /tmp/.X0-lock
[09:46] <sIQ|Steboyuk> Remove this file if there is no X server ubuntu:0
[09:47] <sIQ|Steboyuk> im desperate here:)
[09:48] <pooper> i have an adaptec raid 1/0 controller...i built an raid1 array from two disk...when i run the installer it still shows both disks as installalable targets...what gives
[09:48] <Boogieman> because i tried to install debian once and the installer tells me strange things about the packets i need to install another. like sounds packets for system administration program. Anders1 crimsun
[09:49] <crimsun> huh?
[09:49] <zxc> Anyone know how my Fat32 partition to show up in linux
[09:49] <zxc> *how to get
[09:49] <Anders1> Boogieman: um? what do you mean
[09:49] <virtuald> crimsun: thanks, it was a simple permission problem
[09:49] <tombs> hi ppl
[09:50] <djp> has anyone setup phpbb2 under hoary?
[09:50] <ailleantsian> this network problem is really getting to me now :(
[09:50] <Boogieman> Anders1 the installation program tells me i have to choose many other very strange packets when i choose one thing while the installation
[09:50] <libben> that dident help... to login and out....still cant execute my script...
[09:51] <Anders1> Boogieman: you mean tasksel is asking you for Desktop environment etc..?
[09:51] <libben> is really .bash_profile for X loggin in ? .bashrc instead maybe?
[09:51] <kishu> hey, this is a part of my partition table: (my question is, does GRUB see hdb6 as 1,1 or 1,2?)
[09:51] <kishu>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:51] <kishu> /dev/hdb1               2        9729    78140160    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[09:51] <kishu> /dev/hdb5               2        7817    62781988+   b  W95 FAT32
[09:51] <kishu> /dev/hdb6            7818        9729    15358108+   b  W95 FAT32
[09:51] <Anders1> kishu: #flood
[09:51] <mvirkkil> kishu: pastebin
[09:51] <Boogieman> could be. i dont remember. after that i switched to mandrake
[09:52] <thully> hi - does anyone here know how I would pin the entire marillat source to lowest priority?  Some of its packages conflict with Ubuntu packages, but others in marillat aren't in Ubuntu.
[09:52] <salvia> does anyone got laser printer working with ubuntu ?
[09:52] <pooper> i have an adaptec raid 1/0 controller...i built an raid1 array from two disk...when i run the installer it still shows both disks as installalable targets...what gives?
[09:52] <mvirkkil> thully: Google for apt pinning :)
[09:52] <Boogieman> i now want something that is easy like mandrake but have always new software to update it online
[09:53] <edulix> how to change cpu throttling from command line     ?Ineedtodo that desesperatly :P
[09:53] <mvirkkil> Is this BOF about restricted formats? http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/UbuntuDevelopment/MultiMedia
[09:53] <salvia> so anyone knows how to get laser printer to work ?
[09:54] <zxc> Does anyone know how to get my fat32 partition to show up. I might have actually done it I just don't know how to access the files?
[09:55] <Jet2k5> is hoary stable? :P
[09:55] <Goshawk> Jet2k5, yes it is
[09:55] <Jet2k5> Goshawk, lol I just had to re-install because something went very wrong when I updated
[09:55] <Jet2k5> if I want kde, what do I do sudo apt-get install kde?
[09:55] <Goshawk> Jet2k5, no problem here
[09:55] <ailleantsian> goshawk do you know much about trying to get wifi network cards working ?
[09:56] <Jet2k5> and that takes care of all of it?
[09:56] <ralf__> que paxa nenn
[09:56] <ralf__> xD
[09:56] <libben> how do i add to path manually?
[09:56] <Goshawk> ailleantsian, no sorry
[09:56] <libben> cause this aint working
[09:56] <Riddell> Jet2k5: kubuntu.org/faq.php
[09:56] <Jet2k5> looking at that
[09:56] <DocUb> libben you mean a directory?
[09:56] <Goshawk> Jet2k5, i've a updated hoary and no problems here
[09:57] <pooper> nobody uses raid 1?
[09:57] <pooper> comeon'
[09:57] <libben> i want to add my ~/bin manually... cause ~/.bash_profile aint doing the job its supposed to...
[09:57] <Delparnel> hey, i just rebooted my sys and got an "Error 18: Cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" from Grub
[09:57] <DocUb> mkdir then the path
[09:58] <no0tic> libben: you have to start login terminal to get .bash_profile working
[09:58] <virtuald> libben: export PATH=~/bin:$PATH
[09:58] <crimsun> libben: ~/.bash_profile is parsed, so you should be fine as long as you uncommented that section in ~/.bash_profile
[09:58] <Jet2k5> so I take it that kubuntu is not in hoary?
[09:58] <Delparnel> any suggestions?
[09:58] <crimsun> Jet2k5: it is. aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:58] <Jet2k5> I mean in warty
[09:58] <crimsun> Jet2k5: that's correct, it isn't
[09:58] <Jet2k5> because I did not like the online update to hoary
[09:58] <libben> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
[09:58] <libben> if [ -d ~/bin ]  ; then
[09:58] <libben>     PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[09:58] <libben> fi
[09:59] <libben> it says this in my bas_profile
[09:59] <Jet2k5> what is a good burning app for gnome?
[09:59] <crimsun> libben: and you logged out and back in?
[09:59] <Jet2k5> gnomebake sucked for me ...
[09:59] <djp> anyone runinng phpbb2 here?
[09:59] <Jet2k5> 3 cd's all bad burns even at a writing speed of 1!
[09:59] <libben> i did a ctrl alt backspace even.
[09:59] <crimsun> libben: or sourced ~/.bash_profile ?
[09:59] <libben> crimsun, it works now thxs... the source thing made it
[10:00] <Jet2k5> what do you guys recommend to burn cd's?
[10:00] <libben> but why dident it work when i loaded it with logging in and out?
[10:01] <IceGuest5> hello?
[10:02] <Slipp3d_Str3am> hey is anyone really here?
[10:02] <morlenxus> hello vveird
[10:02] <VVeIrD> morlenxus: huch.. hier is aber voll ^^
[10:02] <morlenxus> VVeIrD: ;)
[10:02] <Slipp3d_Str3am> hello all...
[10:02] <DocUb> 'lo
[10:02] <VVeIrD> hi there
[10:03] <Slipp3d_Str3am> this may sound like a dumb question ... but is there a way to get into a windows domain.... I"m having tons of problems with getting into the domain
[10:03] <libben> one problem with my nice shellscript... why wont it get loaded when i try to do /exec -o scriptfile
[10:04] <IceGuest5> does anyone know a bootable settup that will read fat32 and do network connections?
[10:05] <Slipp3d_Str3am> can any one point me to a good faq site for getting a mail server set up in ubuntu?
[10:06] <rrfsh> Slipp3d_Str3am hello, can u help me? i want to connect my ubuntu to internet with my nokia 6630 via bluetoth. have
[10:07] <Slipp3d_Str3am> oh come on ... nobody knows?            sorry rrfsh i'm a n00b at this as well
[10:08] <rrfsh> libben hello
[10:08] <libben> ?
[10:08] <libben> ;P
[10:08] <rrfsh> can u help me
[10:09] <individ> :)
[10:09] <rrfsh> ?
[10:09] <libben> wich problem?
[10:09] <malte`> why if i set a terminal font of, let's say, Monospace 8 i get a much smaller font instead??
[10:10] <kengur> how do i add something to PATH for every session?
[10:10] <goonie> i need help.. unrar is not a recognized command and I can't find rar or unrar in synaptics... what should I do?
[10:11] <pvanhoof> you have a /etc/profile.d/ direcotry, kengur. Add a .sh file with export PATH=$PATH:/dir
[10:11] <Choubaka> goonie: add universe/multiverse to sources.
[10:11] <tck> kengur, edit your .bash_profile
[10:11] <kengur> tck, tried didn't work somehow
[10:12] <fissy> probably have to log out and in
[10:12] <tck> try .bashrc
[10:12] <tck> you have to then do, source .bash_profile OR . .bash_profile for it to work
[10:12] <kengur> i assume sh .bash_profile is ok too
[10:13] <tck> never used it that way
[10:13] <goonie> Choubaka~ how? I've checked every repository in synaptics.. Settings - repositories -  checked all there but none of them is called universe or multiverse... can I add the url?
[10:13] <Choubaka> goonie: yes.
[10:13] <Choubaka> though use ubuntu update manager for that.
[10:13] <libben> crimsun, to get my script working out here /exec -o ~/bin/./kollahds is what i need to type... why do i need to type the executing part when i dont need to do it in console.... aint the PATH loaded for non GUI?
[10:13] <Choubaka> oh what the hell.
[10:14] <Choubaka> goonie: if you open the sources.list file, you'll see lines which end with "main" or something
[10:14] <Choubaka> add "universe multiverse" after those. on the same line.
[10:14] <goonie> k, where is sources.list ?
[10:15] <libben> by exectuing part i ment the PATH =)
[10:15] <crashd_> hi
[10:15] <rbrt> goonie, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:15] <goonie> thx
[10:15] <crashd_> why with menu-editor i can't remove the icons?
[10:16] <crashd_> and if i add some, it add in "other"?
[10:16] <kengur> tck, why doesn't things in .bash_profile don't show up in $PATH? means it doesn't import the stuff at all?
[10:16] <mvirkkil> Why is there a separate wiki for udu?
[10:17] <tck> kengur, i dont understand what you are saying
[10:17] <crashd_> what is utopia project?
[10:17] <libben> kengur, login and out
[10:17] <libben> or source ~/.bash_profile
[10:17] <ReleaseX> i'm having a problem setting my wireless card to my ap, iwconfig wlan0 essid <ap> , but iwconfig doesn't show that it's been assigned
[10:17] <tck> or . ~/.bash_profile
[10:17] <kengur> libben, well it was already there and it doesn't show up
[10:18] <mvirkkil> crashd_: Hotplug + HAL + DBUS to create a seamless experience. -> Integration of all the new toys
[10:18] <kengur> ~/bin should be in $PATH, i use hoary
[10:18] <St0n3-C0l> do anybody uses MSN Chat from Linux ?
[10:18] <kengur> shit, sorry
[10:18] <tck> ReleaseX, is the card active, does ubuntu recognise it
[10:18] <mvirkkil> kengur: Copy the files from /etc/skel
[10:18] <kengur> my mistake
[10:19] <tck> ReleaseX, try dhclient
[10:19] <libben> what is skel cat?
[10:19] <goonie> Choubaka~ I added universe multiverse at the end of those lines... and now I get an error when I start synaptic
[10:19] <ReleaseX> tck, the card is active, and ubuntu recognizes it
[10:19] <tck> skel is a back up of the default .bash_profile
[10:19] <Choubaka> goonie: what error?
[10:19] <DocUb> How do I get FireStart to load automatically? I read the HowToGuide but it's not giving me enough information
[10:19] <DocUb> FireStarter*
[10:19] <scorpix> anyone success on running paltalk on ubuntu?
[10:20] <pooper> i have an adaptec raid 1/0 controller...i built an raid1 array from two disk...when i run the installer it still shows both disks as installalable targets...what gives?
[10:20] <kengur> mvirkkil, it says if -d ~/bin and i add my path there, which obviously doesn't work =)
[10:20] <zhukov_> hello
[10:20] <zxc> I have a 17" sony monitor but it comes out as max 1024x768 on gnome. Do I need the ATI drivers?
[10:20] <tck> DocUb, it should be in /etc/rc2.d
[10:20] <DocUb> It loads automatically but it says I don't have root privilages to make it load
[10:20] <DocUb> sorry about that
[10:21] <ReleaseX> tck dhclient returns, no dhcpoffers received, no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[10:21] <tck> DocUb, run is was sudo
[10:21] <goonie> Choubaka~ this is what i get: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com warty-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_warty-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:21] <zhukov_> I start Ubuntu, the login panel appears, i can log in, but sometimes it stops after the log in
[10:21] <kengur> zxc, i had the same problem with Mandrake, but ubuntu just works as expected
[10:21] <tck> ReleaseX, its ur AP
[10:21] <rrfsh> hello somebody know how to make the bluetooth work please?
[10:21] <tck> do dump_cis for me
[10:21] <Choubaka> hmm
[10:21] <zhukov_> Nothing appens...can anyone help me out? Ive googled but still no answer
[10:21] <Choubaka> does universe get security updates?
[10:22] <ReleaseX> tck, what am i looking for in dump_cis ?
[10:22] <tck> Choubaka, you tried updating the gnome-panel
[10:22] <Choubaka> what?
[10:22] <kengur> rrfsh, u have to run the daemon, there are plenty of tutorials out there
[10:22] <tisaak> hello everyone!
[10:22] <tck> ReleaseX, pm the results
[10:23] <Choubaka> goonie: launch ubuntu upgrade manager and use that to fix your sources list.
[10:23] <zhukov_> nobody? Help me out!!!
[10:23] <tisaak> i have a kernel-related question
[10:23] <mvirkkil> zhukov_: What's the problem?
[10:23] <tisaak> hoary comes with an i386-compiled kernel. would it be faster if i installed the linux-686 package with synaptic on my pentium iii?
[10:23] <pooper> lot of questions and few answers here
[10:23] <Choubaka> tisaak: possibly. :p
[10:23] <pooper> tisaak: a little
[10:23] <zxc> My monitor has come up generic and is awful :|
[10:23] <goonie> Choubaka~ what is the command for running the upgrade manager?
[10:24] <Choubaka> goonie: I wish I knew.
[10:24] <mvirkkil> tisaak: It might be (marginally) faster.
[10:24] <Choubaka> it should be in the menus
[10:24] <goonie> hehe
[10:24] <pooper> just type aptitude at the command line
[10:24] <pooper> its sinple
[10:24] <tisaak> if i install it with synaptic, is it also going to setup grub, etc?
[10:24] <Choubaka> duh.
[10:24] <pooper> simple
[10:24] <Choubaka> update-manager :p
[10:24] <mvirkkil> zhukov_: /msg me if you want help
[10:24] <tck> zhukov_, apt-get install gnome-panel
[10:24] <imperfect-> ubuntu still seems kinda slow on muh box
[10:25] <imperfect-> X takes a while to load and stuff
[10:25] <mvirkkil> imperfect-: Specs?
[10:25] <kengur> why doesn't visudo editing doesn't permit me to not enter password for sudo as in warty?
[10:25] <tisaak> if i install the 686-optimized kernel package with synaptic, is it also going to setup grub, etc?
[10:25] <goonie> update-manager doesn't do anything :(
[10:25] <pooper> tisaak: yes
[10:25] <Choubaka> goonie: run it with sudo
[10:25] <mvirkkil> tisaak: Yes
[10:25] <tisaak> ahhh... nice
[10:25] <imperfect-> mvirkkil : P4 3.6ghz, 10KRPM SATA drive, 1Gig of DDR400
[10:25] <Choubaka> Ok
[10:25] <tisaak> thnx pooper and mvirkkil
[10:25] <tck> kengur, try sudo -K and then try running visudo again
[10:25] <Choubaka> That should not have trouble.
[10:25] <pooper> i have an adaptec raid 1/0 controller...i built an raid1 array from two disk...when i run the installer it still shows both disks as installalable targets...what gives?
[10:25] <goonie> Choubaka~ I am
[10:26] <kengur> tch, thanks
[10:26] <mvirkkil> imperfect-: Heh.. Well, at least you should have enough horse power.
[10:26] <imperfect-> mvirkkil : nod
[10:26] <Choubaka> goonie: ah, does it open a window?
[10:26] <newbie> can I set a server with ubuntu?
[10:26] <imperfect-> mvirkkil : I've got the 686 SMP kernel installed so the hyper-thredding goodness should be going
[10:26] <Choubaka> goonie: see preferences
[10:26] <pooper> newbie: make sense
[10:26] <newbie> I mean, is solid enough?
[10:26] <imperfect-> newbie: it's serverific out tha box
[10:26] <Choubaka> goonie: And then remove all sources.
[10:26] <imperfect-> newbie: its as solid as debian ;)
[10:26] <pooper> linux is a server os
[10:26] <mvirkkil> imperfect-: Well, how exactly is it slow? After booting
[10:27] <Choubaka> goonie: then add
[10:27] <Choubaka> and tick all the sources :)
[10:27] <mz2> how'd i find out which version of inotify is currently in the hoary kernel?
[10:27] <imperfect-> mvirkkil : Uhm
[10:27] <imperfect-> mvirkkil : Dunno -- things don't pop ;)
[10:27] <imperfect-> mvirkkil : they need to pop!
[10:27] <imperfect-> THERE MUST BE POPPAGE
[10:27] <Dr_Aevil> newbie: yes, when you first boot off the isntall disk, press F1 to view the options.  One of the options is that if you enter "server" it will do a minimal install
[10:27] <tck> mz2, apt-cache search inotify
[10:27] <imperfect-> the updater thing broken dpkg
[10:28] <imperfect-> I had to run a fix
[10:28] <mvirkkil> imperfect-: Well, turning the volume up should crate more poppage ;-=
[10:28] <mz2> i hardly think that is going to work as it's just a kernel patch
[10:28] <imperfect-> cuz it just stopped udring the setup of update packaged
[10:28] <mvirkkil> imperfect-: :)
[10:28] <mz2> that's included in the defaul ubuntu kernel
[10:28] <imperfect-> mvirkkil : heh ;)
[10:28] <Choubaka> goonie: can you get it to work?
[10:29] <tck> mz2, well then why are you askin'
[10:29] <goonie> Choubaka~ no... kinda lost you there... did you mean preferences in synaptic?
[10:29] <imperfect-> ubuntu has issues with getting the default settings for xorg to work
[10:29] <Choubaka> no.
[10:29] <imperfect-> it was a pain in the ass to get my machine at home working
[10:29] <dockane> what do i need to add a dos bootdisk to grub ?
[10:29] <pooper> i have an adaptec raid 1/0 controller...i built an raid1 array from two disk...when i run the installer it still shows both disks as installalable targets...what gives?
[10:29] <imperfect-> and i installed it on a box here at work and it's stuck at 640x480
[10:30] <goonie> Choubaka~ preferences in what?
[10:30] <Choubaka> goonie: can you even start update-manager?
[10:30] <Dr_Aevil> mz2: I'm not sure if someone is making images with an updated inotify but it does tend to change regularly.  You're better off compiling your own if you want to play with development level stuff like beagle ('tis not really ready for general use yet imho)
[10:30] <goonie> Choubaka~ no
[10:30] <Choubaka> wtf.
[10:30] <goonie> Choubaka~ not even as root
[10:30] <Choubaka> what does it say?
[10:31] <goonie> the command isn't even there... update- (tab) lists a few commands but none of them is update-manager
[10:31] <kengur> what's the diff between graveman and gnome-baker?
[10:31] <Choubaka> goonie: weird.
[10:31] <dockane> i need to make a firmware update and the programm to do this requires dos, how do i get do booted ? floppy is not possible because i have to change the dvd for floppy
[10:31] <goonie> Choubaka~ I'll say
[10:31] <dockane> *dos
[10:31] <Choubaka> goonie: oh well
[10:31] <Choubaka> install it
[10:31] <Choubaka> apt-get install update-manager :)
[10:32] <dockane> btw the dvdrom firmware is what i want to flash
[10:34] <ailleantsian> what us the command line to install something ?
[10:34] <kengur> dpkg -i
[10:34] <goonie> Choubaka~ apt doesn't find update-manager
[10:35] <ailleantsian> thanks .. must be something wrong with something cause i was using that and it was erroring
[10:35] <Amaranth> goonie: Are you on hoary?
[10:35] <goonie> Amaranth~ no.. still on warty
[10:35] <Amaranth> goonie: That's why you don't have update-manager.
[10:35] <goonie> Amaranth~ lol.... don't I feel silly now
[10:35] <joshua__> Does gxine freeze up as soon as it goes fullscreen on any of you guys?
[10:36] <ailleantsian> will the dpkg -i work on tar.gz files?
[10:36] <goonie> I still don't understand why I can't add universe and multiverse in apt
[10:36] <kengur> ailleantsian, no it's .deb only
[10:37] <ailleantsian> how do i install something that comes  in the tar.gz files ... ?
[10:38] <Choubaka> goonie: gahh
[10:38] <Choubaka> OK.
[10:38] <kengur> ailleantsian, extract and possibly run make install
[10:38] <Choubaka> I'm going to give you a working sources.list.
[10:38] <Choubaka> Wait a bit :)
[10:38] <goonie> Choubaka~ thx a million
[10:39] <ailleantsian> ahhh i found the make install ... im sorry im new to this ... makefile what do i use to open it ?
[10:39] <LinuxJones> Hi everybody
[10:40] <Dr_Aevil> ailleantsian: you probably need to type ./configure first, if you're compiling, then make
[10:40] <rbrt> grr. I am about to kill everything looking like "J2RE".
[10:40] <Dr_Aevil> ailleantsian: depending on what it is, you may or may not want to run make install
[10:40] <tbird> rbrt, whats the prob ?
[10:40] <djp> can anybody tell me if the .mysql_history file is created when mysql is installed or is it created the first time you use the client?
[10:40] <rbrt> tbird, firefox crashes everytime I try to run a java applet.
[10:40] <kengur> ailleantsian, u better find out compiled .deb or .rpm (which you alien then)
[10:41] <ailleantsian> im trying to get my wlan card working and found a pcimca 2.6 pack to hopefully sort out the cardbus
[10:41] <rrfsh> somebody know how to make the bluetooth work please?
[10:42] <tbird> rbrt, do you have /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_02
[10:42] <b2s> djp: if there is a .mysql_history in /etc/skel, then it is created when a user is added, otherwise its probably when the client is run
[10:43] <Choubaka> hmm.
[10:43] <Choubaka> goonie: http://choubaka.no-ip.com/sources.list
[10:43] <rbrt> tbird, I have blackdown-j2re1.4
[10:43] <rbrt> as explained http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23592.html
[10:43] <ailleantsian> im soooo confused !
[10:45] <ailleantsian> kengur,  do you mind if i pm you to get some assistance?
[10:45] <goonie> Choubaka~ thx... so all I should have to do is change hoary to warty and I'm done?
[10:45] <kengur> ailleantsian, if u don't mind asking a newbie =)
[10:45] <jordanau> ailleantsian, what is wrong
[10:45] <Choubaka> ah, right. you're using warty?
[10:45] <Choubaka> yeah.
[10:45] <jordanau> goonie, change them all
[10:45] <pooper> i have an adaptec raid 1/0 controller...i built an raid1 array from two disk...when i run the installer it still shows both disks as installalable targets...what gives?
[10:46] <Choubaka> hoary is nice though.
[10:46] <ailleantsian> kengur ... im a reallly really newborn im not even at the newbie stage lol
[10:46] <Choubaka> I see no reason to not upgrade :)
[10:46] <djp> b2s: it is located in the /home directory. i gather like you say though, it is probably created when the client is first run...
[10:46] <kengur> ailleantsian, i just use ubuntu to serf and watch movies, don't even do much programming except for py
[10:47] <goonie> Choubaka~ the problem is that i'm on a laptop that has dual boot.. and the windows part is for work and it's set up by the sysadmin and if the upgrade should mess anything up he'd be annoyed.... gonna clone the disk before I try to upgrade
[10:47] <Choubaka> goonie: ahh.
[10:48] <Choubaka> The Upgrade shouldn't mess with any settings though. :/
[10:48] <jordanau> the dist upgrade shouldn't effect a windows partition
[10:48] <ailleantsian> jordanau .. I have a pcimca wireless networkcard that isnt working .. its not picking it properly its picking it up as a block volume... i have looked on the net.. got the ndiswrapper and the drivers they say .. it says the drivers installed but doesnt say devise installed... so i looked to see if my cardbus was all working .. and found out there is a bit of a known problem so i downloaded this package .. and i am t
[10:48] <ailleantsian> rying to work out what to do with the file
[10:48] <nedim> well hello ppl
[10:48] <goonie> Choubaka~ in my experience.. what should work will definately fail... happens to me all the time hehe
[10:49] <Choubaka> Not with APT!
[10:49] <Choubaka> APT has super cow powers, you know
[10:49] <nedim> loving ubuntu
[10:49] <goonie> hehe
[10:49] <Choubaka> I don't know what they are, but they make it good!
[10:49] <zxc> I've mounted my fat32 partition, how do I access to files on it?
[10:49] <nedim> come on even I know that
[10:50] <shaya> is breezy started?
[10:50] <goonie> ok so I should just go for it... isn't there a how-to somewhere?
[10:50] <kengur> lol
[10:50] <shaya> i see empty dirs on archive.ubuntu.com
[10:50] <nedim> it should be automatic
[10:50] <tbird> zxc, you should be able to cd into the mounted dir
[10:50] <Choubaka> goonie: yeah.
[10:50] <jordanau> zxc, where did you mount it?
[10:50] <nedim> just do the mount automatically
[10:51] <Choubaka> all you should have to do is change warty to hoary in sources, and run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.
[10:51] <zxc> tbird, cd [what would I put here, I can change to suit me]
[10:51] <Choubaka> then wait.
[10:51] <nedim> modify your /etc/fstab
[10:51] <Choubaka> and be done. :|
[10:51] <jordanau> it is probably somewhere is /media
[10:51] <tbird> zxc, do you have a mount point for the partition ?
[10:51] <jordanau> zxc, ^^
[10:51] <nedim> you can mount iy anwhere
[10:51] <zxc> jordanau, :D loving ubuntu
[10:51] <goonie> Choubaka I'll take your word for it, doing it now
[10:51] <rbrt> wtf is wrong with j2re? o_O
[10:52] <jordanau> zxc, did that do it?
[10:52] <zxc> tbird, what would a mount point look like roughly
[10:52] <nedim> check this page http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[10:52] <ailleantsian> jordanau : did what i say make sence?
[10:52] <tbird> zxc, when i mount i do something like mount /dev/hdx /mnt/somewhere
[10:52] <kengur> zxc, it's a dir
[10:52] <nedim> java works like a peach
[10:52] <jordanau> ailleantsian, yes that is beyond my knowledge, i just followed the original ndiswrapper wiki
[10:52] <graabein> ah yeah, just upgraded to hoary!
[10:52] <Choubaka> goonie: the worst it could do is overwrite your bootloader config, thus making you only able to boot ubuntu.
[10:52] <tbird> somewhere being the place you created for the partition to be mounted at
[10:52] <zxc> tbird, any command to check where it's mounted?
[10:53] <Choubaka> But that's easy to fix, and unlikely to happen in the first place :)
[10:53] <ailleantsian> jordan i downloaded something with the tar.gz ... and i dont know how to install it
[10:53] <tbird> zxc, chk in /etc/fstab
[10:53] <jordanau> zxc, whereis if you know what it is called
[10:53] <tbird> it should tell you
[10:53] <kishu> How can I disable grub without having to uninstall it?
[10:53] <Choubaka> overwrite the MBR? :p
[10:53] <Choubaka> or wherever grub is installed.
[10:54] <zxc> tbird, pastebin.com put it there
[10:54] <Choubaka> kishu: but you'll need a boot loader.
[10:54] <tbird> zxc, how did you mount it ?
[10:54] <kishu> yeah
[10:54] <kishu> I want to install bootmagic...
[10:54] <kishu> will it overwrite grub?
[10:54] <Choubaka> whazzat?
[10:54] <Choubaka> yeah.
[10:54] <Choubaka> probably
[10:55] <Choubaka> most likely.
[10:55] <Choubaka> etc.
[10:55] <kishu> lool
[10:55] <Piper2> 5.04 i386. Boots into console, startx blacks out screen. Can anyone tell me how to maybe start in a low resolution to get into the gui?
[10:55] <Choubaka> goonie: good luck with the upgrade in any case.
[10:55] <tbird> Piper2, did you try to reconfigure xorg
[10:55] <Choubaka> I'm going to sleep now. .)
[10:55] <kishu> is there a way to restore the mbr in case I fuck up other than reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:56] <jordanau> Piper2, www.pastebin.com you xorg.conf
[10:56] <dazed_> piper...did u install Gnome or KDE?
[10:56] <Piper2> tbird and jordanau: thanks, I'll read up on that up.
[10:57] <tbird> Piper2, ok good luck
[10:57] <jordanau> Piper2, i had something similar happen when i upgraded make sure your keyboard driver has a lowercase "k"
[10:57] <jordanau> Piper2, in xorg.conf
[10:57] <jordanau> Piper2, are you in linux now?
[10:57] <Piper2> jordanau: yeah, knoppix
[10:59] <jordanau> Piper2, you can use "irc" and "lynx" in terminal to find info without logging out of ubuntu
[10:59] <goonie> Choubaka~ how do i fix the bootloader config should things go wrong?
[10:59] <cowbud> is there a devel for ubuntu again yet? or are we still in freeze and that is why new packages are not coming down the pipelines?
[10:59] <Choubaka> goonie: back it up now.
[11:00] <xiaogil> When I run Terminal Server Client and try to connect to a distant computer, it always returns ERROR: mycomputername : unbale to resolve host. What does it mean, what should I do to make it work ?
[11:00] <Choubaka> it should be /etc/grub.conf or something if you're using grub
[11:00] <jmhodges> agh
[11:00] <tbird> Piper2, id try running xorgconfig again
[11:00] <jmhodges> somehow my /etc/cups/cupsd.conf got deleted
[11:00] <Choubaka> then, if it get overwritten, copy it back and run grub.
[11:00] <jmhodges> and now dpkg-reconfigure won't recreate it
[11:00] <jmhodges> it says that its been "edited"
[11:01] <cowbud> jmhodges: first remove it and reinstall it..
[11:01] <jmhodges> ok
[11:01] <cowbud> force remove rather..
[11:01] <Amaranth> http://www.realistanew.com/etiquette.png <--Ubuntu Desktop spam :)
[11:01] <jmhodges> cowbud: natch, can't believe i missed that easy of a solution
[11:02] <goonie> Choubaka~ it's /boot/grub/menu.lst right?
[11:02] <Choubaka> something like that.
[11:02] <jmhodges> thanks cowbud
[11:03] <goonie> Choubaka~ apt-get dist-upgrade says:The following packages will be upgraded:
[11:03] <goonie>   kdebase-bin kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-5-386
[11:03] <goonie> 5 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:03] <goonie> Need to get 31.0MB of archives.
[11:03] <goonie> is that normal?
[11:04] <Choubaka> goonie: hmm.
[11:04] <Choubaka> if you were upgrading from warty to hoary there'd have to be more packages to update :|
[11:04] <goonie> Choubaka~ I would have thougt so
[11:04] <Choubaka> did you change the sources to hoary? and did you run apt-get update? Are you sure you're running warty? :D
[11:05] <cuga> I need some help troubleshoot setting up my new Nvidia card, i had always had ATI's so im not quite sure where to check to make sure everything is ok, im on Hoary and whenever i run glxgears, after 5 secs the system locks up... running the latest nvidia drivers too... nobody answering me on #nvidia :(
[11:05] <goonie> Choubaka~ omg.. hang on :$
[11:07] <Striss> Hey all...I'm running Ubuntu on an older iMac and I was wondering if there's any way at all I can change the brightness/contrast of my screen?
[11:07] <pder> ubuntu kinda sucks
[11:07] <crimsun> help fix it.
[11:07] <goonie> pder~ why?
[11:07] <tbird> i have had no issues with Ubuntu
[11:07] <pder> goonie just kidding
[11:07] <Choubaka> me neither. .)
[11:08] <dazed> goonie what was ur command u used to upgrade?
[11:08] <Choubaka> ubuntu sucks all the goodness out of other distros
[11:08] <Choubaka> Well, not really.
[11:08] <dazed> and did u change ur repos?
[11:08] <goonie> Choubaka~ lol
[11:08] <delire> ..
[11:09] <goonie> dazed~ hang on.. made a clumsy mistake... trying again
[11:10] <kishu> how can I use a .diff diskette image?
[11:10] <Choubaka> diskette image? :|
[11:10] <goonie> right... upgrade on the way... now I have to remember how to config this wireless card using ndiswrapper... that'll take ages... again hehe
[11:11] <kishu> i downloaded a package that claims to have an image for a rescue diskette for grub
[11:11] <kishu> so i uncompress it
[11:11] <kishu> and there is a .diff file in it
[11:11] <libben> how does GDM starts gnome?
[11:11] <kishu> how can I use it to build a rescue diskette?
[11:12] <delire> pder: what aren't you liking
[11:12] <Choubaka> kishu: Hey. use the "file" utility on it
[11:12] <Choubaka> kishu: that'll tell you what it is
[11:13] <kishu> Where can I find this file utility
[11:13] <kishu> is it a console command
[11:13] <Choubaka> yes.
[11:15] <virtuald> does anyone know if it's possible to get flash to use esd?
[11:15] <DocUb> anyone using Irssi that has an auto identify command I can use?
[11:15] <dazed> goonie if its configed on warty it will be configed on hoary
[11:15] <goonie> dazed~ oh thank god hehe
[11:20] <kishu> Choubaka, the file tool just tells me that it's a "UTF-8 Unicode English with very long lines" file...
[11:20] <Choubaka> hmm.
[11:21] <Choubaka> then it's probably no disk image.
[11:21] <Choubaka> it may be a source patch.
[11:21] <Choubaka> open it in an editor.
[11:21] <kishu> I opened the file in an editor, and in the starting it says something about "make"
[11:22] <kishu> perhaps I need to make the file? I am new to linux and don't really know what it means
[11:22] <delire> virtuald: forget esd for anything other than system sounds. i would argue you should turn it off altogether.
[11:22] <tbird> kishu, what is it your trying to do ?
[11:23] <selinium> delire! how is it going? Are you on your Rosegarden pc?
[11:23] <goonie> Choubaka~ thx for all your help and patience.. I owe you one
[11:23] <kishu> I downloaded the package called grub-disk and it says it contains an image file for a rescue diskette
[11:23] <Choubaka> goonie: no problem.
[11:23] <delire> selinium: well, teaching alot. working on a sound server for an interactive project atm
[11:23] <Choubaka> Now I'm really going to go to sleep
[11:23] <kishu> The file is .diff
[11:23] <tbird> kishu, is there a README file?
[11:23] <Choubaka> it's 00:23 here :D
[11:23] <kishu> I don't know how to use it
[11:24] <kishu> Not really
[11:24] <kishu> It's just a .diff file
[11:24] <kishu> an image or something, I figure
[11:24] <virtuald> well my sound card can only play from one source and dmix only works for alsa enabled apps, aoss makes oss programs think my soundcard can only handle 8 kHz :/
[11:24] <selinium> delire: Cool, could you give me a hand sorting out my sound in a moment. I want to tinker with it again first?
[11:24] <delire> selinium: sadly not, it's midnight here and i need to hit the hay
[11:25] <tbird> thats a patch kishu
[11:25] <delire> selinium: i'll msg you with an email addr
[11:26] <delire> selinium: so mail me and i'll help you out tommorroq.
[11:26] <kishu> tbird, this is the description of the package: This package contains a GRUB rescue disk. It consists of a bootable
[11:26] <kishu> 1.44 floppy image you can use to grab a rescue disk or be run in an
[11:26] <kishu> i386 emulator, like Bochs.
[11:26] <selinium> delire, np I am going to catch some Z's soon myself! Cheers!
[11:26] <tbird> kishu, oh dunno then sorry
[11:27] <tbird> kishu, id imagine there should have been somesort of readme where you got it from to tell you how to run it
[11:27] <WiFi_Net_Guy> Hi, everyone. I'm using SuSE and considering moving to Ubuntu. I need wireless support...any luck?
[11:28] <kishu> tbird, it's from an official ubuntu server, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/admin/grub-disk
[11:28] <LinuxJones> WiFi_Net_Guy, you can have a look here >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:28] <njan> WiFi_Net_Guy, wireless support is going to be pretty much the same in ubuntu as any linux distribution, if that's what you're asking
[11:29] <njan> WiFi_Net_Guy, although ubuntu are good enough to bundle ipw2100/2200 drivers, which some distros don't :)
[11:29] <WiFi_Net_Guy> Yeah. I am, njan. Thanks for the reply (you, too, LinuxJones). I'm pretty new to Linux and that's been a bear!
[11:30] <tbird> grub_0.95+cvs20040624.orig.tar.gz is wqhat you need i think
[11:30] <njan> WiFi_Net_Guy, :).. what sort of wireless card do you have?
[11:31] <tbird> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/grub-disk
[11:31] <WiFi_Net_Guy> njan, I've got a Toshiba Satellite notebook with the Atheros chipset.
[11:31] <njan> WiFi_Net_Guy, that will work with ubuntu out of the box afaik
[11:31] <njan> WiFi_Net_Guy, my wife's laptop has a (pcmcia) atheros card in it
[11:31] <xiaogil> How to log to a distant ubuntu in graphic mode ?
[11:31] <njan> WiFi_Net_Guy, and I've never had any problems *at all* with it
[11:32] <ailleantsian> i cant get my wlan card working :(
[11:32] <WiFi_Net_Guy> njan, great! Thanks for the information. Have you been happy with Ubuntu? It looks pretty good from the info I've read. Any comparison with SuSe?
[11:32] <zxc> when I'm doing stuff it keeps saying "W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:32] <zxc> " how do I do this please?
[11:33] <dockane> sudo apt-get update maybe ?
[11:33] <kent> zxc, what "stuff" are you doing?  Do either as dockane says, or in synaptic, press the reload-button.
[11:34] <Koljonen> i just installed nullidentd, any ideas how to make it show my username instead of "foobar"? :o
[11:34] <zxc> I'm getting stuff listed of ubuntuguide
[11:34] <zxc> using terminal
[11:34] <LinuxJones> WiFi_Net_Guy, Ubuntu rocks you will notice a difference in speed and package managment is awesome
[11:35] <njan> WiFi_Net_Guy, SuSE is the only distribution I've never extensively used; I've only used it for servers, so I can't specifically comment re: desktop use
[11:35] <ailleantsian> if a chipset is made for redhat and suse is there any chance i can use it on dev?
[11:35] <WiFi_Net_Guy> LinuxJones, cool! Thanks. I'm using it in a dual-boot config with Winbloze but I never go there unless I HAVE TO!
[11:35] <kent> zxc, then you most likely forgot to run "sudo apt-get update" from the terminal AFTER you edited the sources.list file.  You need to update the list of packages which you can install..
[11:35] <ailleantsian> deb / ubuntu
[11:35] <njan> WiFi_Net_Guy, however, compared to every other desktop linux distribution I've used (most of them), it's spectacular. Quick, reliable, aesthetic.
[11:35] <LinuxJones> WiFi_Net_Guy, you should try the Live CD not as fast but you can test all of your hardware to see if it's compatable.
[11:35] <njan> yeah. What LinuxJones said :)
[11:36] <WiFi_Net_Guy> LinuxJones and njan, I'm downloading it as we speak.;)
[11:36] <LinuxJones> WiFi_Net_Guy, :)
[11:36] <kishu> tbird, I saw that one, but it's 3,5 MB, how can I get that on a floppy disk... I thought the diff was some kind of image or compressed thing
[11:36] <njan> Although technically the livecd is ~= knoppix, but that just demonstrates to what extent if something works with one new(ish) linux distro it'll work with another :p
[11:36] <zxc> kent, comes up with the same error again :/
[11:37] <rrfsh> hello  njan,
[11:37] <njan> hi, rrfsh
[11:37] <tbird> kishu, im sure theres some sort of extraction to a floppy
[11:37] <tbird> you just have to read the readme after you untar it
[11:38] <kent> zxc, then perhaps you have entered a server which dont respond/dont have files on them.  If some one wrote about a server which you can use, it might not be useable some time later. Could you paste your sources.list somewhere? it might be a spelling-error aswell (typo..)
[11:38] <rrfsh>  njan, i have a nokia 6630 and i want to connect it with my ubuntu via bluetoth
[11:38] <tbird> zxc, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:XmNbmphb-KMJ:www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Archive+ubuntu+archive&hl=en
[11:39] <njan> rrfsh, I've never done it, sorry, don't know what it involves ;)
[11:39] <r0sk> we
[11:40] <r0sk> Anyone is with Xorg? howto set up click on touchpad?
[11:40] <femv> people i have a problem with ubuntu installed in my laptop
[11:40] <Sionide> femv, what is it? i got ubuntu on my laptop, bout to upgrade to hoary
[11:41] <Sionide> from the preview which i had on it
[11:41] <rrfsh> r0sk u have to install xserver-xorg-synaptics driver
[11:41] <femv> sionide , i did install hoary already... its giving a message at boot that sys unable to apply power .. psmia_socket0
[11:41] <r0sk> rrfsh, going to search :)
[11:41] <kevins> hi, i was just tryin to rip a cd into mp3 with grip but i don't know what encoder i need,any help please?
[11:42] <Sionide> hrm not seen that
[11:42] <femv> sionide, i read this is a known problem.... but havent found solution to it
[11:42] <zxc> kent, I put it at pastebin.com
[11:42] <kengur> kevins, lame
[11:42] <MMond> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu/dists/warty-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403 Forbidden //  Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu/dists/warty-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403 Forbidden  <-- happens when I "apt-get update" . . . any hints on how I should go about dealing with this?
[11:43] <elem3nt> Hi! when I try to bring my nas0 interface (which shows in ifconfig nas0), I get this output : ignoring interface nas0=nas0 doesnt exist or something. What could be the problem?
[11:43] <femv> sionide , i also have a problem with the screen im getting a lot of dirt and lines before starting up gnome and after closing
[11:43] <kdp> i made my own GAIM package in order to get backtrace data, but now the update-notifier tells me i should update gaim...will the settings be kept intact?
[11:44] <femv> How do i install a .deb file ?
[11:44] <dazed> elem3nt, have u set up ur nas0 conn yet?
[11:44] <dazed> femv you can use dpkg commands or use a program such as mc
[11:44] <kengur> femv, dpkg -i some.deb
[11:45] <kent> kdp, a new package wont change your personal configuration of gaim. Like acount info etc.
[11:45] <elem3nt> what do you mean by 'set up'? Ive run br2684ctl, and I get the output : ... "interface nas0 configured" is there more to it?
[11:45] <femv> kengur, -i is for install?
[11:45] <kdp> i.e. will the updated gaim have debugging enables
[11:46] <kdp> kent: when you say "personal configuration", do that include debugging information?
[11:46] <elem3nt> dazed, what do you mean by 'set up'? Ive run br2684ctl, and I get the output : ... "interface nas0 configured" is there more to it?
[11:47] <dazed> shouldnt be
[11:47] <kent> kdp, no.. i guess the debugging stuff is a feature of the package it  self (from the compilation). If you compiled your own gaim, then you can "fool" apt by giving it a newer version, perhaps..  ?
[11:47] <femv> dazed .... dpkg is giving me a dependency problem
[11:47] <femv> how can i find out what does it need
[11:47] <dazed> apt-get -f install
[11:47] <kengur> femv, yes
[11:48] <elem3nt> dazed got any suggestions ? where to seek or what to try..
[11:48] <kdp> kent: any ideas how to accomplish this?
[11:48] <dazed> elem3nt, that should be it but goto ur network admin tool from gnome and see if ur nas0 is on there
[11:48] <camden> howdy folks.
[11:49] <dazed> u might also need to restart ur network controllers
[11:49] <kdp> from texas, camden?
[11:49] <camden> nope, alaska.
[11:49] <kdp> wow, way off
[11:49] <elem3nt> dazed its not there, and Im talking about a usb-adsl modem. same procedure?
[11:49] <camden> why'd you ask?
[11:49] <kdp> b/c im from texas. and we always get the howdy thing.
[11:50] <Lefungus> hello
[11:50] <dazed> ahhh its a usb modem
[11:50] <camden> ahh
[11:50] <Lefungus> I have an issue with autotools and ubuntu
[11:50] <camden> we alaskans are like cold texans.
[11:50] <Lefungus> by default, ubuntu seems to use -g in the cflags
[11:50] <Lefungus> so my autotools script put -g in the compilation process
[11:50] <dazed> elem3nt, i really wouldnt know what to tell you cuz that deals with your hotplugs as well and using them like a network controller ... i really dont know how to help with that
[11:50] <Lefungus> I don't want it to build debug libraries
[11:51] <crimsun> Lefungus: that's the default for Debian and thus, Ubuntu.
[11:51] <Lefungus> but I'd like to allow the user to enter his own cflags if needed
[11:51] <elem3nt> ok, thanks anyway.
[11:51] <camden> so... I actually have a quick question. I've heard that hoary hedgehog has build in ati drivers... how do I set this up?
[11:51] <kent> kdp, learn how to use "apt-get source"  (apt-get source gaim". Then make a new .deb out of it, compiled with debugging enabled.. perhaps?  This should give you the same versionnumber as the one in the archive, and that way it might work.. but im no expert :)
[11:51] <crimsun> Lefungus: there's nothing stopping the user from entering his own CFLAGS
[11:52] <kdp> kent: i actually did this...and its still telling me im outdated...hm
[11:52] <Lefungus> how ? my script either hardcode the cflags or use the default ones
[11:52] <Lefungus> and if I use the defaults, -g is here
[11:52] <crimsun> Lefungus: then update your script to accept $(CFLAGS)
[11:52] <femv> how can i install this : tcltls ?? can apt look it up for me ?
[11:52] <crimsun> femv: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:52] <Lefungus> is it different from $(CFLAGS) ?
[11:52] <Lefungus> I mean $CFLAGS
[11:53] <crimsun> Lefungus: $(CFLAGS) is picked up from env
[11:53] <dazed> femv: apt-cache search tcltls
[11:53] <kent> kdp, that is strange. But why do you want debugging enabled? I meen, it can be a feauture some times, but if its fixed, or you dont know of any more bugs.. then it couldn't be needed could it?
[11:53] <Lefungus> crimsun, then it'll pick '-g' too
[11:53] <dazed> femv: then use apt-get install <app> to install the app it returns
[11:54] <crimsun> Lefungus: the correct way is to strip the binary after it's compiled
[11:54] <elem3nt> dazed one more thing, do you know someone who could know something about usb-adsl modems?
[11:54] <Lefungus> crimsun, that's interesting, i wasn't aware you could strip debug info after compilation
[11:54] <dazed> elem3nt, might try asking a few peeps in here...but most people i know use networking cards...never used a usb modem even on windows
[11:54] <vessuvius81> has anyone resorted to using linuxant driverloader to get their wireless card up?  I'm considering it as a last resort.
[11:55] <kdp> kent: i filed a bug report where gaim was crashing after aborted receiving files
[11:55] <dazed> elem3nt, i believe it gets setup through ur com ports though
[11:55] <kengur> elem3nt, yes, his name is Eithernet ADSL
[11:55] <crimsun> back later.
[11:55] <kdp> and they asked for a backtrace
[11:56] <_edulix> hi !
[11:58] <holycow> does anyone know how to change the refresh rate for the resolution at which gdm starts up in?
[11:58] <holycow> it would be great to switch to 75hz from 60hz
[11:59] <taddeus> hi all
[11:59] <camcorder> is there any problem w/ ubuntu, that link goes down after some time, and when i hook the switch connection comes back?
[11:59] <taddeus> i would like to install ubuntu: which version should i download ?
[11:59] <goldfish> hoary
[12:00] <_edulix> I have a laptop, and acpi activated. sometimes it gets heated, fans start to spin and in that moment cpu throttling raises to 75% and I cannot move it to 0% as I would like


[18:06] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:10] <olly> morning
[19:21] <ajmitch_> morning
[20:04] <ibeardslee> back shortly
[21:42] <thumper> ibeardslee: ok
[21:56] <kcj> Morning.
[21:59]  * ibeardslee is happy when remote reboots go well


[22:36] <robotdevil> can anyone tell me if the manual partitioning bug that crashes the installer in kubuntu 13.04 fixed


[06:49] <LeMike> hello there. Is it possible to locally log the SSH history without using a keylogger? Just to automatically track what commands I ran on the customers server.
[08:50] <jo-erlend> LeMike, history does that by default.
[09:03] <jo-erlend> LeMike, if you're looking for a process accounting system, you can find it in the acct package.
[10:29] <rbasak> LeMike: try "script" though the output includes control characters so can get messy.
[10:30] <rbasak> Or you can run your client inside "screen" and use "Ctrl-A H" to have it log. I assume tmux has an equivalent.
[12:18] <tomreyn> rbasak: i see there's #ubuntu-server also on libera, are there plans to move there? *this* channel doesn't indicate so, yet, so i'm wondering.
[12:20] <tomreyn> if so, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList/Team would need an update
[12:33] <rbasak> tomreyn: see https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/minutes-for-the-2021-05-19-community-council-meeting/22367?u=rbasak and https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/topic-split-irc-discussion/22275?u=rbasak. AIUI, a move will be happening, but is pending coordination. So we're just waiting for the Ubuntu IRC Council to sort out the logistics of the move. I assume further instructions will follow from them, and until
[12:34] <rbasak> then we stay put.
[12:40] <tomreyn> i see, thanks.
[12:40] <rbasak> Also https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001923.html
[12:41] <J_Darnley> Is the default kernel used by the desktop and server versions of Ubuntu the same, the same package?
[12:41] <tomreyn> i'm aware of this one. many other lively channels have since taken the initiative to move.
[12:43] <tomreyn> J_Darnley: yes, but there are separate kernels for VM guests and for OEMs.
[14:26] <Paddy_NI> Hello I installed ubuntu server 20.04 on a Dell PowerEdge T140 (m.2 drive) with the lvm luks options.  I have a second 4TB HDD which I would also like to have encrypted preferably with the same credentials and options as the initial install m.2 drive.  Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction?
[14:27] <Paddy_NI> I tried doing this at install time however none of the options allowed me to set it up this way
[14:27] <Paddy_NI> Ideally I would just have the second hdd be used for samba
[14:28] <Paddy_NI> Or would that be a problem having it share using samba with it being encrypted?
[14:47] <Paddy_NI> Sorry if I appear to be spamming but I am not quite sure if anyone is still here due to the recent issues with freenode?


[02:02] <grexk> I'm having diffculties creating xen-source-2.6.16 in dapper. Need some help.
[04:28] <zul_> the edgy's xen kernel is not going to work on dapper there is alot of changes to kernel-package that were made and its very edgy specific
[04:32] <grexk> I also installed the new kernel-package.
[05:08] <grexk> Just finished compiling xen-source
[02:22] <zul> morning
[02:52] <zul> hey BenC have you looked at the fcache stuff?
[05:24] <BenC> infinity: ping
[05:25] <Mithrandir> BenC: he went to crash in bed some hours ago, so he might not be around.
[05:25] <BenC> Mithrandir: ah
[05:25] <BenC> Mithrandir: hey, will you let me know when it's ok to do the kernel upload?
[05:26] <Mithrandir> BenC: when you see the knot-2 release announcement?
[05:26] <Mithrandir> but sure.
[05:26] <Mithrandir> will do
[05:26] <BenC> tx
[06:07] <mjg59> BenC: So I've just got an acx cardbus card, and it doesn't seem keen on working
[06:07] <mjg59> No scan results
[06:07] <mjg59> dmesg has:
[06:07] <mjg59> [17258570.232000]  acx: firmware 'Rev <IP_ADDRESS>' does not work well with this driver
[06:07] <BenC> mjg59: Read up in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/acx/
[06:07] <BenC> there's a readme
[06:08] <mjg59> BenC: Ah, cool
[06:08] <mjg59> So you just need the IDs?
[06:09] <mjg59> Ok, it seems happy to work with <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:09] <mjg59> I'll file a bug with the rest
[06:24] <BenC> mjg59: thanks
[06:25] <BenC> I should probably change the default altogether
[06:25] <BenC> given the kernel message
[06:46] <mjg59> Yeah
[06:47] <mjg59> BenC: From the source (referring to <IP_ADDRESS>):
[06:47] <mjg59>                         /* With this one, all rx packets look mangled
[06:47] <mjg59>                         ** Most probably we simply do not know how to use it
[06:47] <mjg59>                         ** properly */
[06:47] <mjg59> So I think changing the default would be a pretty good idea
[11:18] <Bertl> evening folks!