[10:14] <royx117> pavl bhai hello
[10:14] <u-la-la> royx117: 13 Jul 14:54Z <pavlushka> tell royx117 to try this link, https://askubuntu.com/questions/49210/how-to-recover-ubuntu-installed-with-wubi-with-corrupted-grub?rq=1
[10:14] <u-la-la> royx117: 13 Jul 14:55Z <pavlushka> tell royx117 for emergency recovery, try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/246026/how-to-recover-ubuntu-data-if-its-installed-inside-windows/246079
[10:17] <pavlushka> Hello royx117 :)
[10:17] <royx117> As-salamu-alykum
[10:18] <pavlushka> Wailaikum-assalam
[10:18] <royx117> electricity was gone last day
[10:18] <pavlushka> aha
[10:19] <royx117> got ur msg
[10:22] <royx117> how "udo mount -o loop /path/to/root.disk /mnt"
[10:22] <royx117> is it work
[10:23] <royx117> i can not test now may be tomorrow
[10:24] <pavlushka> royx117: its "sudo mount ...", supposed to work :)
[10:24] <royx117> u send another one from windows i can edit
[10:24] <royx117> EasyBCD i have installed that
[10:25] <pavlushka> royx117: try this link https://askubuntu.com/questions/49210/how-to-recover-ubuntu-installed-with-wubi-with-corrupted-grub?rq=1 first.
[10:25] <royx117> but how can i add "Add an entry for Ubuntu (Wubi) using EasyBCD"
[10:25] <u-la-la> [ windows - How to recover Ubuntu installed with Wubi with corrupted GRUB - Ask Ubuntu ] - https://askubuntu.com
[10:25] <pavlushka> to recover/reinstall grub within windows
[10:25] <pavlushka> royx117: you might get your lubuntu back
[10:26] <royx117> i have installed EasyBCD
[10:26] <pavlushka> royx117: otherwise just mount those disk files using second method to just recover the important data, but not the system
[10:27] <pavlushka> royx117: yeah and follow the later instructions from the first link afterwards
[10:27] <royx117> is it windows
[10:27] <royx117> :D
[10:27] <pavlushka> royx117: which one?
[10:28] <royx117> u can use my name roxy
[10:28] <royx117> instade of royx117
[10:28] <pavlushka> royx117: I m doing ro+"tab button"
[10:28] <pavlushka> its easier :p
[10:29] <royx117> pavlushka, LOL
[10:29] <royx117> JUST LEARNED IRC :d
[10:30] <royx117> in the first method i installed EasyBCD
[10:30] <pavlushka> royx117: stay on freenode irc, you will learn irc and linux both, though I know you have a macbook as well
[10:30] <pavlushka> royx117: yes, and then follow the rest
[10:30] <royx117> yes
[10:31] <royx117> in the first method i installed EasyBCD
[10:31] <royx117> how can i add Ubuntu (Wubi)
[10:31] <royx117> ??
[10:32] <pavlushka> open easybcd
[10:34] <pavlushka> create/add a boot anemd "Ubuntu (Wubi)" entry where there already a windows boot entry is
[10:34] <royx117> http://imgur.com/t3eJjUz
[10:35] <royx117> pavlushka, i want to know which mobile is better android or blackberry os
[10:36] <royx117> pavlushka, what u say
[10:36] <pavlushka> royx117: check this out please https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/20340/how-to-restore-the-wubi-ubuntu-bootloader/
[10:36] <u-la-la> [ How To Restore the Wubi Ubuntu Bootloader ] - https://www.howtogeek.com
[10:36] <pavlushka> royx117: it has screenshots
[10:38] <royx117> chacking ur link
[10:38] <pavlushka> royx117: I have no idea on blackberry os, So cant tell if its better or worse :)
[10:39] <royx117> hmm
[10:41] <pavlushka> but certainly less familiar :)
[10:49] <pavlushka> royx117: and here, some basic tips on irc https://www.facebook.com/notes/pavel-sayekat/how-to-irc/10209386543358117/
[10:49] <u-la-la> [ How to IRC ] - https://www.facebook.com
[10:50] <pavlushka> royx117: though you already know some of them :)
[10:50] <royx117> working on lubuntu
[10:50] <royx117> thnak you , i will try
[10:50] <pavlushka> royx117: yeah, if you had chance, try to take look on that :)
[10:51] <royx117> :)
[10:51] <royx117> i will
[10:52] <pavlushka> royx117: and let me know if you able to succeed in recovering your lubuntu :)
[11:07] <royx117> facing problem
[11:07] <royx117> when i put this command "bcdedit /set {device_id} partition=X:"
[11:08] <pavlushka> royx117: in your case X: will be D:
[11:08] <royx117> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25088352/
[11:08] <u-la-la> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:10] <pavlushka> royx117: paste the out put of "bcdedit"
[11:10] <pavlushka> royx117: and you have to launch the cmd as admin
[11:10] <royx117> yes in admin
[11:11] <pavlushka> royx117: ok, then paste the bcdedit output please
[11:11] <royx117> ok
[11:12] <royx117> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25088371/
[11:12] <u-la-la> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:16] <pavlushka> royx117: you see the red marked area of the "bcdedit" screenshot, look there for "device" option
[11:16] <royx117> solve
[11:16] <royx117> done some mistake
[11:17] <pavlushka> royx117: you have to select D: on creating the boot menu entry on the first place
[11:17] <royx117> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25088352/ take a look i did not write "deivice"
[11:17] <u-la-la> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:18] <pavlushka> royx117: do it again, https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/20340/how-to-restore-the-wubi-ubuntu-bootloader/
[11:18] <u-la-la> [ How To Restore the Wubi Ubuntu Bootloader ] - https://www.howtogeek.com
[11:18] <royx117> wait
[11:19] <pavlushka> royx117: and this time when you create a grub entry, select D: instead  of C:
[11:27] <royx117> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25088416/
[11:27] <u-la-la> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <royx117> now i am going to reboot
[11:27] <royx117> may allah help me
[11:28] <pavlushka> royx117: me too :)
[11:50] <pavlushka> so royx117 , it worked?
[11:50] <royx117> pavlushka, no
[11:51] <royx117> missing file
[11:51] <royx117> :(
[11:54] <pavlushka> royx117: you have to change the path from \NST\NeoGrub.mbr to \ubuntu\winboot\wuildr.mbr
[11:54] <royx117> yes
[11:54] <pavlushka> royx117: you did that already?
[11:54] <royx117> yes
[11:55] <pavlushka> royx117: like this right, "bcedit /set {device_id} path \your_ubuntu_path\winboot\wubildr.mbr" ?
[11:55] <royx117> yes
[11:56] <royx117> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25088416/
[11:56] <u-la-la> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:58] <pavlushka> royx117: give me the upper directory screenshot of this http://imgur.com/a/FOO2k
[11:58] <pavlushka> royx117: and into the boot folder screenshot of this http://imgur.com/a/FOO2k
[11:58] <royx117> ok.
[11:59] <royx117> http://imgur.com/a/8BVrC
[12:00] <pavlushka> royx117: get into the winboot and give me a screenshot, please :)
[12:01] <royx117> http://imgur.com/a/y989f
[12:02] <pavlushka> royx117: can you give me another paste of "bcdedit" ?
[12:02] <pavlushka> now
[12:02] <pavlushka> ?
[12:02] <royx117> k
[12:03] <royx117> just uninstalled easyBCD
[12:03] <pavlushka> royx117: hahaha
[12:04] <royx117> i hate windows
[12:04] <pavlushka> royx117: no you dont, lol
[12:05] <royx117> how u know
[12:05] <pavlushka> royx117: kidding, may be you do, was just teasing :)
[12:05] <royx117> lol
[12:05] <royx117> :D
[12:06] <royx117> may i am infected with virus
[12:06] <royx117> .link
[12:07] <pavlushka> looks like you were, not sure about you are, as you did a reset, but that depends
[12:16] <royx117> i am going to freash start
[12:16] <royx117> here is my new one
[12:16] <royx117> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25088598/
[12:16] <u-la-la> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:17] <pavlushka> royx117: I wanted the bcdedit command after appying the changes.
[12:28] <royx117> failed
[12:28] <royx117> :D
[12:28] <royx117> :(
[12:28] <pavlushka> royx117: I wanted the bcdedit command after appying the changes.
[12:29] <royx117> http://imgur.com/a/RCqFG
[12:29] <royx117> what did i wrong
[12:31] <royx117> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25088669/
[12:31] <u-la-la> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:47] <royx117> no use
[12:47] <royx117> same problme
[12:48] <pavlushka> royx117: I want to say something
[12:48] <royx117> ofcource
[12:49] <pavlushka> royx117: if you have to reboot to boot into Ubuntu, then why not creating a different partition for it where it cant be lost?
[12:49] <royx117> ??
[12:50] <pavlushka> royx117: by installing within windows, you are also giving it a space somewhere, dont you?
[12:50] <royx117> yes
[12:50] <pavlushka> then just allocate that space into a different partition and install it there.
[12:51] <royx117> so i have transfer it to my C drive
[12:51] <pavlushka> by doing so, you making sure that by any chance if the windows got corrupt, your ubuntu/linux partition will be entact
[12:53] <royx117> hmm i have .98 gb free in C drive , and ubuntu file in more than 5gb
[12:53] <pavlushka> and you will be able to recover your linux after re-installing windows by just re-installing grub afterwards
[12:53] <royx117> :(
[12:53] <pavlushka> royx117: you have free space in other partitions, that should do
[12:53] <royx117> i think easy method is failed
[12:54] <pavlushka> royx117: use easeus partition manager to create a new partition from free space
[12:54] <royx117> i they have error writing code
[12:55] <royx117> "bcdedit /set {device_id} partition=X:" "bcdedit /set {device_id} device partition=X:"
[12:55] <pavlushka> royx117: your paste says it didn't failed but just not working
[12:55] <royx117> yes sorry working
[12:55] <royx117> :D
[12:55] <royx117> going to pray , i will be back
[12:56] <pavlushka> royx117: it saved the configuration as the way you have configured it
[12:56] <royx117> ok
[12:56] <pavlushka> but it's not working
[13:00] <pavlushka> royx117: you can try the second method to recover any important data from those disk images
[13:02] <pavlushka> like this, https://askubuntu.com/questions/246026/how-to-recover-ubuntu-data-if-its-installed-inside-windows/246079
[13:02] <royx117> yes i will but not today
[13:02] <u-la-la> [ wubi - How to recover Ubuntu data if it's installed inside Windows? - Ask Ubuntu ] - https://askubuntu.com
[13:02] <pavlushka> royx117: ha ha, I am not pressuring you :)
[13:02] <royx117> i jknow
[13:02] <royx117> i know
[13:02] <royx117> :D
[13:02] <pavlushka> royx117: do it on your free time as possible :)
[13:03] <royx117> :D
[13:03] <pavlushka> and yes, now I know that you know :p
[13:03] <royx117> ;)
[13:05] <royx117> pavlushka, do u outsource or freelance for money
[13:05] <pavlushka> royx117: no
[13:08] <royx117> do u read pavlushka "Learning the bash Shell, 3rd Edition - Cameron Newham"
[13:09] <pavlushka> royx117: https://fileinfo.com/extension/disk, and nope, did not got time to :)
[13:11] <pavlushka> s/got/get
[13:11] <u-la-la> pavlushka meant to say: royx117: https://fileinfo.com/extension/disk, and nope, did not get time to :)
[13:13] <royx117> http://imgur.com/a/cxb79
[13:13] <royx117> ??
[13:15] <pavlushka> royx117: ha ha ha, there's an extra dot after disk, that made it wrong address :)
[13:15] <pavlushka> or comma
[13:16] <royx117> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9R8MP8HYoc
[13:17] <u-la-la> [ How to Create & Attach ,Detach Virtual Hard disk (VHDX) On Windows? - YouTube ] - https://www.youtube.com
[13:17] <royx117> can i do .disk forment too
[13:19] <royx117> pavlushka, can send the irc core link agaig ,
[13:19] <royx117> every time i log in this i found nothing
[13:19] <pavlushka> royx117: https://www.facebook.com/notes/pavel-sayekat/how-to-irc/10209386543358117/
[13:19] <u-la-la> [ How to IRC ] - https://www.facebook.com
[13:23] <pavlushka> royx117: its the second method, for recovery, https://askubuntu.com/questions/246026/how-to-recover-ubuntu-data-if-its-installed-inside-windows/246079
[13:23] <u-la-la> [ wubi - How to recover Ubuntu data if it's installed inside Windows? - Ask Ubuntu ] - https://askubuntu.com
[13:25] <pavlushka> royx117: you can use https://github.com/mregmi/ext2read if it is possible for you to compile it.
[13:25] <u-la-la> [ GitHub - mregmi/ext2read: A Windows Application to read and copy Ext2/Ext3/Ext4 (With LVM) Partitions from Windows. ] - https://github.com
[13:26] <pavlushka> royx117: o no, you can get the windows binaries directly from here, https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
[13:26] <u-la-la> [ Ext2Read download | SourceForge.net ] - https://sourceforge.net
[13:26] <royx117> :)
[13:26] <royx117> downloaded
[13:27] <pavlushka> hmm
[13:35] <royx117> http://imgur.com/a/C0Yk1
[13:35] <royx117> :D
[13:35] <royx117> feeling happy
[13:37] <pavlushka> royx117: but you just able to access the filesystem not the system itself as a running lubuntu one :)
[13:37] <royx117> hmm
[13:37] <pavlushka> royx117: but its good that you are happy with this even :)
[13:38] <royx117> how can i get firefox bookmark
[13:38] <royx117> :D
[13:43] <pavlushka> royx117: look for in  /home/user/.mozilla/
[13:43] <royx117> got it
[13:43] <royx117> working on it
[13:43] <pavlushka> cool
[13:44] <royx117> got this file
[13:44] <royx117> bookmarks-2017-01-22_45_ueEhpop79tUo9Jp7f-9XhA==.jsonlz4
[13:44] <royx117> how to read it
[13:46] <pavlushka> royx117: you have to copy it to firefox's bookmark folder and launch firefox and there it supposed to get available
[13:46] <royx117> yes
[13:46] <royx117> got it :D
[13:51] <royx117> how can i find any other browser
[13:52] <pavlushka> sorry?
[13:52] <royx117> like chromium browser
[13:55] <pavlushka> there is epiphany browser, opera browser
[13:55] <pavlushka> and qupzilla
[13:55] <pavlushka> for linux
[13:55] <pavlushka> and min
[13:58] <royx117> :D
[13:59] <pavlushka> and many other low end browsers which are light but with less functionality though very secure
[14:05] <royx117> another question
[14:05] <royx117> can i ask
[14:06] <pavlushka> sure :
[14:06] <royx117> do know deepweb
[14:06] <pavlushka> royx117: you mean darkweb?
[14:07] <royx117> yes
[14:07] <pavlushka> royx117: somewhat
[14:08] <royx117> i am curious
[14:08] <pavlushka> royx117: you might find youtube tutorials on that but you need some money too
[14:08] <royx117> not money bitcoin
[14:09] <royx117> u know me, i am always curios to know
[14:09] <pavlushka> royx117: to buy bitcoin, you have to have money :p
[14:10] <royx117> if i earn bitcoin
[14:10] <royx117> :D
[14:10] <pavlushka> royx117: that makes two of us
[14:10] <pavlushka> royx117: yeah, you might
[14:11] <pavlushka> gotta run, will be back within 2 hours may be :)
[14:11] <royx117> ok


[07:52] <BigWhale> Greetings
[08:10] <evfool> bdmurray:ping
[09:49] <evfool> hggdh: ping
[10:34] <njin> hello fellows, why LP is tagging with unity 2d when 3d is running? bug 791125
[10:34] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 791125 in compiz (Ubuntu) "default backgroung cause problems to compiz (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791125
[10:37] <njin> is LP or apport that create the tags?
[10:37] <seb128> njin, it's apport and it's tagging unity-2d when unity-2d is installed
[10:38] <njin> seb128:thanks
[11:21] <brendand> is ubuntu-bug broken for everyone else in oneiric?
[11:22] <brendand> always getting 'not a valid ubuntu package'
[11:22] <brendand> tried compiz and unity so far
[11:26] <jibel> brendand, works fine here.
[11:27] <brendand> jibel - strange
[11:27] <jibel> brendand, did you pull something from a ppa ?
[11:28] <brendand> jibel - no, this is a pure fresh oneiric install
[11:29] <jibel> uhoh, I'll try in a few minutes from a fresh install
[11:29] <brendand> jibel - if you have an install there, can you try something for me, to confirm a bug?
[11:30] <brendand> jibel - maximize a window, then try double-clicking the top bar to restore it
[11:30] <jibel> brendand, k
[11:36] <brendand> jibel - well, i got the info up anyway by filing a bug and running apport-collect
[11:38] <jibel> brendand, works with unity but not unity 2d
[11:40] <brendand> jibel - how to check if i'm running 2d?
[11:42] <jibel> brendand, unity-2d-panel is running
[11:43] <brendand> jibel - okay, so unity-2d issue then
[11:44] <brendand> jibel - be so kind as to confirm my bug 791157 :)
[11:44] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 791157 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) "Double-clicking on menu bar doesn't resize maximized window (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791157
[12:06] <yofel> brendand: apport uses the apt cache for the package validation, what does apt-cache policy say for those packages?
[12:50] <brendand> yofel - i'll have to reboot
[12:50] <yofel> k
[12:52] <evfool> hi all, could anyone confirm that gksu does only request the password once, and does not show an error message and request it three times if the wrong password has been entered on first try
[12:55] <charlie-tca> That's been a bug for a long time now
[12:56] <charlie-tca> evfool: that is reported, but I will have to search a while to find it
[12:56] <evfool> I have reported that
[12:57] <evfool> and I want to duplicate the other ones reported for synaptic and update-manager
[12:57] <charlie-tca> new or a pretty old bug
[12:57] <evfool> bug 773284
[12:57] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 773284 in gksu (Ubuntu) "gksu behavior on bad password (affects: 22) (dups: 11) (heat: 118)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/773284
[12:58] <mvo> evfool: is that new in oneiric? or also in natty?
[12:58] <charlie-tca> it's been reported over a year ago
[12:58] <evfool> also in natty
[12:58] <evfool> and even earlier
[12:59] <evfool> mvo: it seems to be there since lucid, as there is an update-manager bug reported in may of 2010
[12:59] <seb128> there was bug #298217
[12:59] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 298217 in libgksu (Debian) (and 6 other projects) "no second attempt and no feedback when wrong password entered (affects: 62) (dups: 13) (heat: 310)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298217
[13:00] <seb128> but it has been closed
[13:01] <charlie-tca> It's easy to verify, just open Synaptic Package Manager and enter the wrong password
[13:03] <evfool> the old one has been closed as it was fixed in libgksu, but now it's in the gksu package, which says it's replacing libgksu0
[13:17] <evfool> I don't understand how this has been missed, as pitti 's fix for the old bug should be in natty and it's not, and checking the libgksu code for oneiric, it's not in there neither
[13:20] <seb128> gksudo is not used a lot nowadays and users tend to enter their password rights
[13:20] <seb128> so it's easy to not be bothered about it
[13:20] <hggdh> evfool, pong
[13:21] <evfool> seb128: not used a lot? synaptic, update-manager use it, and update-manager is set to run at least weekly
[13:21] <evfool> hggdh: I just wanted to ask what do I have to do to renew my expiring bug control membership
[13:21] <chrisccoulson> update-manager doesn't use it anymore, and hasn't done since last cycle
[13:21] <seb128> evfool, update-manager uses aptdaemon which doesn't use gksudo no
[13:22] <hggdh> evfool, what you just did ;-)
[13:22] <hggdh> give me a sec
[13:22] <seb128> only synaptic and software-properties still use gksudo in oneiric and they are not things you use often
[13:24] <hggdh> evfool, done
[13:25] <evfool> hggdh: thanks
[13:26] <evfool> seb128: thanks, I must have missed that: update-manager uses gksu for displaying software-properties and partial upgrades, and synaptic is really getting obsolete
[13:27] <seb128> in any case it's still a bug, that was just a reply to your question on how that was not raised as an issue
[13:27] <seb128> someone should reapply the patch and ask for sponsoring
[13:27] <seb128> seems the easiest way to get it back in
[13:27] <evfool> when it has been in lucid-proposed, shouldn't it be in later releases?
[13:28] <evfool> yep, I'll try to do that
[13:30] <seb128> evfool, it should, but it might have been not applied to the next series at the same time it was sru-ed or it might have been dropped by error in a merge on debian
[13:30] <evfool> ok
[13:34] <seb128> evfool, seems like the patchs is still in the source
[13:35] <evfool> seb128: in the source of libgksu?
[13:35] <seb128> yes
[13:36] <seb128> but maybe the sudo prompt changed since and it needs to be updated for the new wording
[13:36] <seb128> or something similar
[13:37] <evfool> yes, it's in the patches, I've missed that
[13:37] <evfool> the only change seems to be a newline, which would be enough the break the check
[17:40] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu QA meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 20 minutes. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
[20:10] <johanbr> Hi. Could a kind soul with access please revert the status for launchpad bug 582809 back to Triaged? (for linux(Ubuntu))
[20:10] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 582809 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "Synaptics Clickpad touchpad buttons are not working (affects: 155) (dups: 10) (heat: 758)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/582809
[20:10] <johanbr> I'm not sure why it was marked fixed in the first place - and it's clearly not correct
[20:11] <bcurtiswx> johanbr, which comment does it show as being marked fix released ?
[20:12] <johanbr> bcurtiswx, unnumbered changed between comments 158 and 159
[20:12] <johanbr> *unnumbered change
[20:13] <bcurtiswx> johanbr, done :)
[20:13] <johanbr> bcurtiswx, great, thank you!
[20:13] <bcurtiswx> johanbr, yw
[21:55] <dart> I think a recent natty update to xorg has created some problems in my system...Where do i report this? Fix to this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/774938
[21:55] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 774938 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Erratic cursor movement when using "Coordinate Transformation Matrix" (affects: 2) (heat: 144)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[21:58] <dart> The bug fixes some erratic pointer behaviour for rotated screens. But after I installed this update on my system, the pointer is behaving really weird and accuracy have dropped.
[22:47] <micahg> dart: if you think it was the xorg update, you can file a bug: ubuntu-bug xorg and mention the bug you think is causing the issue in it


[14:44] <smartboyhw> ailo, good work on the blueprints
[14:44] <ailo> smartboyhw: I try to always do my best ;)
[14:45] <smartboyhw> yesterday's logs are a bit difficult to consume to my brain
[14:45] <smartboyhw> ailo, so what's scott-work's view on the bluerints thing?
[14:56] <ailo> smartboyhw: I haven't heard from Scott. Until he reappears, me and len-dt are taking the initiative. Just keeping things running
[14:56] <ailo> If he will have little time in the future, I suggested we take over his responsibilities as project lead for this cycle, or until he is ready to come back
[14:56] <smartboyhw> ailo, wow you are quite aggressive:D
[14:57] <len-dt> Not really
[14:57] <smartboyhw> len-dt, ok.....Just looks weird
[14:57] <len-dt> We have a pretty good idea what Scott's vision for US is. and are trying to mostly maintain that
[14:58] <smartboyhw> Actually I do think someone to at least take over scott-work's work for a bit..... He can't even come on 12.10 release day to approve the release. Hopefully we can find him on Monday...
[14:59] <len-dt> It got done smartboyhw , not to worry. We are all volunteers and all have a real life
[15:00] <len-dt> Scott does have a way of looking at the whole project overall, that I for one, lack
[15:00] <ailo> Well, I don't have problems on that area, which is why I do like to organize things
[15:00] <smartboyhw> len-dt, yeah. But then ailo's idea of talking over as project lead for R cycle is a bit er.......what to say?
[15:01] <ailo> I didn't say we take over as project lead. Just that we handle communications and what else
[15:01] <len-dt> Its nothing less than Scott has asked
[15:01] <smartboyhw> ailo, len-dt fine
[15:02]  * smartboyhw wants no bothering conversations after a day of concert and physics + chemistry test revision:(
[15:04] <len-dt> just trying to reassure you there are no big army boots wandering around here :)
[15:04] <smartboyhw> len-dt, big army boots?
[15:04]  * smartboyhw does not understand the joke
[15:05] <smartboyhw> Or at least a half-joke
[15:05] <ailo> smartboyhw: He's painting a picture for you
[15:05] <smartboyhw> ailo, LOL
[15:05] <len-dt> No big changes. or take over
[15:05] <smartboyhw> Yeah
[15:06] <smartboyhw> But clearly you two did the most in the 12.10 cycle....great job I lke to say:D
[15:07] <len-dt> Yes, but most of what we did was based on the blue prints. We didn't work without direction.
[15:08] <smartboyhw> OK but anyway bye guys I got short computer time today. ailo len-dt add oil (means to give support in Cantonese):P


[10:32] <holiman> Hi, I have a question about a potential regression on ubuntu ppa upload -- is this the right channel for questions about that?
[10:36] <holiman> There appears to be a change in how the sftp server behaves.
[10:36] <holiman> After connecting (and uploading package), our CI runner cannot exit. I can repro this manually:
[10:36] <holiman> ```
[10:36] <holiman> $ sftp -i ./ppakey<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:36] <holiman> Connected to ppa.launchpad.net.
[10:36] <holiman> sftp> quit
[10:36] <holiman> Interrupt
[10:36] <holiman> ```
[10:36] <holiman> The `quit` (and `exit`, `bye`) leaves the client hanging. Pressing ctrl-c (or sending SIGINT) causes it to
[10:36] <holiman> print `Interrupt`, but the only way to exit is to SIGKILL it.
[10:36] <holiman> Our CI service kills it after 10 minutes -- which triggers the upload to succeed, but the CI job is terminated so
[10:36] <holiman> remaining package uploads are not performed.
[10:50] <holiman> Found the problem, it's same as this one (https://github.com/kolban-google/sftp-gcs/issues/23#issue-1095191812) . Fix for the server is pending: https://github.com/mscdex/ssh2/pull/1111


[20:51] <humphreybc> sup
[20:51] <godbyk> humphreybc: I was literally just typing you an IM to remind you about the meeting. :)
[20:51] <humphreybc> you're lucky i'm here
[20:52] <godbyk> Ah, well, I see it as *you're* lucky *I'm* here. :-P
[20:52] <humphreybc> ha
[20:56] <flan> You're both unlucky, since I'm kinda here.
[20:57] <godbyk> Hey, flan.  Have you had any time to work on the Quickshot stuff?  I think the Dutch translation team is basically waiting on us.
[20:57] <flan> That's been ported over.
[20:57] <flan> But all they're missing is the first screenshot.
[20:57] <flan> I could capture that manually.
[20:57] <godbyk> Ah, okay.
[20:57] <flan> Or they could.
[20:58] <flan> It's really easy to do.
[20:58] <godbyk> Speak of the devil... Hey, Hannie. :)
[20:58] <flan> Just pop the ISO into VirtualBox and crop it with The GIMP.
[20:58] <Hannie> Hi there
[20:58] <flan> Call it '01-welcome.png' and pass it to anyone with bzr commit access.
[20:59] <godbyk> Hannie: flan said that he thinks you're just missing one screenshot and that you could probably take it manually.
[20:59] <godbyk> He's setup the new Quickshot server.
[20:59] <Hannie> I was told the quickshot server is not working
[20:59] <godbyk> flan: Is the new Quickshot app itself usable?
[20:59] <flan> Taking it manually's probably easier.
[20:59] <flan> It is.
[20:59] <flan> It also seems pretty stable.
[20:59] <godbyk> 'kay.
[20:59] <flan> But some of its wording may be counter-intuitive.
[20:59] <ChrisWoollard> evening
[21:00] <flan> It needs us to give it a full run-through before we can call it 1.0.
[21:00] <Hannie> Hi Chris
[21:00] <flan> http://flan.uguu.ca:5000/ump/10-04 nl's only off by one screenshot. You can preview the others (JPEG compression) online.
[21:01] <flan> And reject anything that doesn't look right.
[21:01] <humphreybc> so who's here?
[21:01] <flan> Not me.
[21:01] <Hannie> Yes, 47 shots are there
[21:01] <flan> Oh. Not -welcome.
[21:01] <ChrisWoollard> not me either
[21:01] <flan> It's first-slide.
[21:01] <flan> So you'd need to get as far as starting the install.
[21:01] <flan> Still easy to do in VirtualBox, though.
[21:02] <mattgriffin> hi
[21:02] <humphreybc> hey matt
[21:02] <ChrisWoollard> hey matt
[21:02] <humphreybc> okay should we start this meeting? I don't have an agenda, slightly hungover
[21:03] <flan> Stop drinking, college-boy. =P
[21:03] <Hannie> Ready, steady, go
[21:03] <ChrisWoollard> nothing like preperation
[21:03] <humphreybc> #startmeeting
[21:03] <MootBot> Meeting started at 16:03. The chair is humphreybc.
[21:03] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[21:03] <humphreybc> okay
[21:03]  * trijntje is reading along
[21:03] <humphreybc> should we figure out where we're at first?
[21:03]  * daker o/
[21:03] <Hannie> hey tijntje
[21:04] <humphreybc> [TOPIC] Where are we at currently?
[21:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Where are we at currently?
[21:04] <godbyk> Which branch do you want to hear about first?
[21:04] <humphreybc> maverick
[21:04] <humphreybc> top priority first
[21:04] <ChrisWoollard> It requires screenshots
[21:04] <trijntje> Hi Hannie
[21:05] <humphreybc> what about the changes from lucid?
[21:05] <godbyk> Maverick's had some editing, writing, and reorganization done to it, but still needs a bit more of each.
[21:05] <humphreybc> ok
[21:05] <godbyk> I don't know that there's been any systematic effort to check for the changes from lucid and update the manual.
[21:05] <humphreybc> hmm
[21:05]  * ChrisWoollard is looking for stuff
[21:05] <humphreybc> so should we appeal for people to help?
[21:06] <godbyk> Sure.
[21:06] <ChrisWoollard> i would say yes
[21:06] <humphreybc> well
[21:06] <humphreybc> if we could get a list of changes
[21:06] <humphreybc> like a todo list
[21:06] <humphreybc> i'll post some stuff on OMG! and see who we can get to help
[21:06] <ChrisWoollard> it is the url i have been trying to get people to proof read
[21:06] <ChrisWoollard> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/382986/ubuntu-manual/UbuntuManual.html
[21:06] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/382986/ubuntu-manual/UbuntuManual.html
[21:07] <godbyk> If we're having random passersby read the manual to look for changes, we should assign them each a different chapter or section so we don't have everyone read the installation chapter and then quit.
[21:07] <humphreybc> yeah
[21:07] <Omega> Oh, I got here on time.
[21:07] <c7p> one guy from my loco team reviewed some chapters -more on pad-
[21:07] <michael_k> it was me
[21:07] <ChrisWoollard> i am looking for the pad link
[21:08] <michael_k> i ma currently reviwing ch 4
[21:08] <c7p> hey michael :)
[21:08] <michael_k> hey john!
[21:08] <humphreybc> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ump-m-todo
[21:08] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ump-m-todo
[21:08] <humphreybc> let's try to quickly jot down known changes between lucid and maverick here
[21:08] <humphreybc> while the meeting continues and after
[21:09] <ChrisWoollard> the install has changed
[21:09] <ChrisWoollard> it still needs updating
[21:09] <ChrisWoollard> +screenshots
[21:09] <humphreybc> [ACTION] Team to create checklist and todo in etherpad
[21:09] <MootBot> ACTION received:  Team to create checklist and todo in etherpad
[21:09] <ryu_kurisu> New ubuntu font is added (going open-source when complete)
[21:09] <humphreybc> [ACTION] Benjamin to write a post on OMG! and get some peeps over here to help out
[21:09] <MootBot> ACTION received:  Benjamin to write a post on OMG! and get some peeps over here to help out
[21:10] <ChrisWoollard> Here is the proof reading log of what is done
[21:10] <ChrisWoollard> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ump-10-10-pr-log
[21:10] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ump-10-10-pr-log
[21:10] <michael_k> c7p has also posted for help in our forum. Maybe other loco temas could do the same
[21:10] <humphreybc> neat
[21:11] <humphreybc> I'm keen to keep the meeting moving on and continue further discussion in the mailing list
[21:11] <humphreybc> anyone else have any action items for the maverick manual?
[21:11] <humphreybc> flan: what's the story with quickshot?
[21:12] <ChrisWoollard> I am not sure. I haven't read the rest yet. I have been a bit slack on that front.
[21:12]  * humphreybc feels like he's talking to himself
[21:12] <ryu_kurisu> I'm might be able to contact the Dutch LoCo
[21:13] <Hannie> trijntje does the screenshots, he is here
[21:13] <humphreybc> okay
[21:14] <humphreybc> well since no one is talking about this, i'll move on to the next topic
[21:14] <Hannie> when will the server be ok?
[21:14] <humphreybc> [When are we going to release Maverick?]
[21:14] <godbyk> Hannie: Using the new Quickshot with the new Quickshot server should work fine.
[21:15] <godbyk> Hannie: The old Quickshot app won't work, though.
[21:15] <Hannie> And is the new Quickshot working at the moment?
[21:15] <humphreybc> [TOPIC] When are we going to release the maverick manual?
[21:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  When are we going to release the maverick manual?
[21:15] <godbyk> Hannie: Per flan, it should be, yes.
[21:15] <c7p1> humphreybc: hm, is there any dead line for the writing ?
[21:16] <humphreybc> should we aim for two weeks from now or something?
[21:16] <Hannie> ok, thanks
[21:16] <ChrisWoollard> i would say asap.
[21:16] <michael_k> +1
[21:16] <humphreybc> righto
[21:16] <humphreybc> [ACTION] Release maverick manual ASAP
[21:16] <MootBot> ACTION received:  Release maverick manual ASAP
[21:16] <ryu_kurisu> I've send word to sehof of the Dutch LoCo
[21:16] <humphreybc> [TOPIC] Should we put a hold on translations until the team has a better infrastructure to handle them?
[21:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Should we put a hold on translations until the team has a better infrastructure to handle them?
[21:17] <godbyk> I think that the lucid translations can probably continue.
[21:17] <godbyk> For maverick translations, I guess it'll depend on how long it takes us to get a better infrastructure in place.
[21:17] <humphreybc> It's best to start translations after the final freeze
[21:17] <michael_k> I wouldn't like that but we can release english version and release tranlsations as they get completed
[21:18] <humphreybc> yeah
[21:18] <ryu_kurisu> I don't know, it would be wise to start translation only when the manuel is complete....or start on sections that are finilised
[21:18] <humphreybc> because when we change things as they're translating, it doesn't work too good
[21:18] <humphreybc> yeah
[21:18] <humphreybc> well
[21:18] <ryu_kurisu> *manual
[21:18] <c7p1> current infrastructure (launchpad) has some bugs but we should keep on releasing translated editions
[21:19] <ChrisWoollard> I would say that we should really push for screenshots too be done soon.
[21:19] <humphreybc> we're probably going to change our structure to aim for main release about 2 weeks after ubuntu comes out
[21:19] <michael_k> I think it;s eassier for translators to work with finished products
[21:19] <Omega> But other languages will lag behind substiantially then.
[21:19] <humphreybc> yeah
[21:19] <Hannie> If there are only minor changes we can start translating maverich asap
[21:19] <humphreybc> see this is the thing, some languages will never get done due to the 6 month cycle
[21:19] <humphreybc> by the time they've almost been done, it'll be time for the next manual
[21:19] <michael_k> that's true even for Ubuntu itself
[21:20] <humphreybc> yeah
[21:20] <humphreybc> but even harder for a 170 page book
[21:20] <Omega> Maybe we can use a \releasename \releasenumber command in the doc's so those get updated automatically?
[21:20] <humphreybc> hence I think only certain instances should be translated, maybe just LTS releases to give 2 years for full translation
[21:20] <c7p1> there should be selected freezed content for every release so the translators cope with the work more easily
[21:20] <trijntje> are chapter-freezes an idea? That way translations could start early on
[21:20] <godbyk> Omega: Where would you use those?
[21:21] <trijntje> and just create translation templates per chapter and combine them when building?
[21:21] <godbyk> Right now our writing freeze coincides with our release, basically.
[21:21] <Omega> godbyk: Everywhere you want to say "Maverick"
[21:21] <Omega> or "10.10"
[21:21] <ryu_kurisu> well, some pages are filed with pictures...and really simple to translate sections
[21:21] <humphreybc> trijntje: maybe but it's hard to organize especially with ubuntu ignoring their UI freeze
[21:21] <michael_k> also if there are no complete rewrites of large parts translations can progress farily qyickly
[21:22] <humphreybc> should we defer further discussion of translations into a new mailing list thread?
[21:22] <ryu_kurisu> that's true
[21:22] <humphreybc> (also to include the many translators that aren't here)
[21:23] <Hannie> That is a good idea
[21:23] <humphreybc> michael_k: do you reckon you could start up a new thread to the list?
[21:23] <michael_k> ok !
[21:23] <ryu_kurisu> I'm not a translator, but most parts are the same for lucid and maverick, right?
[21:23] <humphreybc> thanks
[21:24] <ryu_kurisu> They've switched to applications for two similar applications
[21:24] <humphreybc> Okay, I think we should aim for these things this week and have another meeting next weekend to discuss more about the project
[21:25] <humphreybc> right now we have the following goals, to get the maverick manual out, finish screenshots, get new contributors for the final push, release the website (will talk to daker) and have further discussion about translations
[21:25] <trijntje> ryu_kurisu, I dont think LP is that good at recognising that strings are very similar. If the English text changes all translations are discarded. Even fixes for typo's I believe
[21:25] <c7p1> actually we should promote more the project and apeal more volunteers
[21:25] <humphreybc> c7p1: yeah
[21:25] <humphreybc> but
[21:25] <ChrisWoollard> +1
[21:25] <c7p1> who is writing the content now ?
[21:25] <humphreybc> no point getting people to help if there's nothing to do
[21:25] <Hannie> Have you read the proposal of Jonas: New Features guide
[21:25] <c7p1> sure
[21:26] <ChrisWoollard> That was mine
[21:26] <ChrisWoollard> idea that is
[21:26] <humphreybc> so are we happy with those goals for this week?
[21:26] <c7p1> yap but i don't remeber what he said :/ nvm i ld look at it
[21:26] <michael_k> I propose to get done with maverick asap and start working on that for natty so we can assign  tasks to new people coming
[21:26] <humphreybc> yeah, we should have a meeting solely to discuss team structure
[21:27] <c7p1> +1
[21:27] <michael_k> +1
[21:27] <humphreybc> let's get this maverick manual out somehow
[21:27] <humphreybc> and then work on that afterwards
[21:27] <humphreybc> sound cool?
[21:27] <ChrisWoollard> Yep. Can't do anything else until then
[21:27] <humphreybc> so we'll defer stuff to the list, i'll write a summary of the meeting and send that too later today
[21:28] <c7p1> cool
[21:28] <humphreybc> michael_k: start up a translation thread
[21:28] <humphreybc> I think those are good goals for this week
[21:28] <humphreybc> another meeting, same time next Friday?
[21:28] <michael_k> OK! hope to get it by tomorrow morning!
[21:28] <humphreybc> okay
[21:29] <ChrisWoollard> So, who can help with what and when? Any responsibilities?
[21:29] <c7p1> sounds good to me
[21:29] <michael_k> next Friday same time is OK for me
[21:29] <humphreybc> i'll make sure next meeting has an agenda
[21:29] <humphreybc> ChrisWoollard: I'll make sure our list of changes is concise
[21:29] <michael_k> i' ll continue reviewing ch. 4 and continue to other chapters
[21:29] <humphreybc> godbyk: are the instructions on our website for writers etc up to date?
[21:30] <Hannie> Is each chapter assigned to one person?
[21:30] <humphreybc> Hannie: not currently
[21:30] <ChrisWoollard> not at the moment
[21:30] <godbyk> humphreybc: For writers working on the Maverick edition, they should be up-to-date, yeah.
[21:30] <humphreybc> maybe we should do that
[21:30] <michael_k> just check etherpad
[21:30] <humphreybc> ok
[21:30] <ChrisWoollard> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ump-10-10-pr-log
[21:30] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ump-10-10-pr-log
[21:30] <ChrisWoollard> :)
[21:31] <humphreybc> ok
[21:31] <humphreybc> cool
[21:31] <ChrisWoollard> The installation chapter needs looking at as the whole install changed
[21:31] <humphreybc> well i'm out for now but i'll fire off something to the list today and write a post on OMG early next week
[21:31] <Hannie> bye
[21:31] <trijntje> bye all
[21:31] <humphreybc> see ya guys, thanks for coming
[21:32] <dutchie> humphreybc: don't forget to stop the meeting
[21:32] <humphreybc> is this time good for meetings?
[21:32] <ryu_kurisu> You'ra welcome =D
[21:32] <ChrisWoollard> always good for me
[21:32] <Hannie> for me it is
[21:32] <humphreybc> okay
[21:32] <humphreybc> #endmeeting
[21:32] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 16:32.
[21:32] <ryu_kurisu> humpreybc: As far as I'm concerned it is
[21:32] <humphreybc> okay
[21:32] <Hannie> 22:32
[21:32] <humphreybc> i'll mail the list again
[21:32] <humphreybc> for a new meeting
[21:32] <humphreybc> chow!
[21:32] <Omega> Cya!
[21:32] <michael_k> ok! bb
[21:32] <c7p1> bye
[21:33] <Hannie> See you
[21:44] <Muscovy> Hello all.
[21:45] <daker> Muscovy, hi
[21:45] <Muscovy> Meeting hasn't happened yet, has it?
[21:45] <Muscovy> I've just gotten in.
[21:46] <daker> it's already finished
[21:46] <Muscovy> Oh.


[16:35] <amol> hi
[16:56] <amol> I am having some issue in using live LTSP feature. I can live boot into server.
[16:57] <amol> but when I try logging into thin client as guest I see wallpaper but no icon
[16:57] <amol> please help


[00:42] <thedude> Is there a way to use Titan TV schedule with Mythbuntu 9.04 instead of the scheduledirect.org?
[02:34] <thedude> Hello
[02:34] <thedude> >	Is there a way to use Titan TV schedule with Mythbuntu 9.04 instead of the scheduledirect.org?
[09:21] <AId> Hi, i am running Mythbuntu on an asus m3n78 motherboard with 4gb ram
[09:21] <AId> recentally it has got very slow ,
[09:22] <AId> both live and playback, any ideas what i could try?
[09:23] <AId> I had turned on mythwelcome to try and get acpi wakup but could not get working, since then i think everything has got slow
[09:36] <ruskie> tried disableing it?
[09:46] <AId> No , i have done nothing,
[09:47] <AId> have to say it ran fine for a week or more on mythwelcome until this week
[09:48] <AId> just wondering how do i check to see if everything is ok
[09:48] <AId> its like its doing other jobs in the background
[09:58] <Eltornado> hi all
[10:02] <Eltornado> go a problem the mythbuntu is too slow dunno what i make change in the apearence menu , because before it was a normal an fluent .
[11:57] <AId> hi all
[11:59] <MythbuntuGuest91> hi does anyone know were the apple trailers grabber script is installed in mythbuntu 9,04
[13:55] <Essobi> Morning!
[13:58] <Essobi> Meh.. someone gimme a google voice invite. :\
[13:59] <rhpot1991> Essobi: you request it from google, have you yet?
[14:00] <Essobi> You go?  I thought it was invite only.. like.. someone else had to invite you.
[14:00] <Essobi> do..
[14:01] <Essobi> mmm
[14:04] <rhpot1991> it is invite only: https://services.google.com/fb/forms/googlevoiceinvite/
[15:05] <Essobi> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-07-20/


[03:35] <sarthor> Hi, HI, my Router IP is <IP_ADDRESS>, Port 80 is redirected to some pc <IP_ADDRESS>, where my webserver is running, now i have email server on other PC, and IP is <IP_ADDRESS> and have I have to access my mail server like "http://mysite.com/webmail" Now If the request of http://mysite.com/webmail is comming on port 80, so that will go to <IP_ADDRESS>, How can I send this request to <IP_ADDRESS> while the request in coming on port
[03:35] <sarthor>  80. both linux machines are running on ubuntu-server 14.04. HELP
[03:35] <patdk-lap> you can't
[03:36] <patdk-lap> if you *really* want to do that, consult your webserver software
[03:36] <patdk-lap> or use haproxy instead
[03:44] <sarthor> patdk-lap: what should I do with my webserver software, just an idea?
[03:44] <bearface> reverse proxy?
[04:45] <Polluticon> I want to be able to stream audio from my windows 7 pc to my Ubuntu server over wifi, Is this possible?
[04:46] <sarnold> there's probably something like icecast for windows
[04:47] <Polluticon> I was thinking pulseaudio because Icecast seamed to just stream certain files
[04:48] <Polluticon> The problem is I'm having trouble figuring out how to use pulseaudio
[04:49] <sarnold> I know pulseaudio's original purpose in life was network audio, I don't know if it is actually any good at that task now..
[04:49] <Polluticon> could Icecast stream all of the audio from my pc you think?
[04:50] <sarnold> I was hoping you'd find a "driver" for windows that would let you select it as a soundcard and have it send audio into icecast instead, but that's me being hopeful rather than helpful..
[04:52] <sarnold> this looks promising https://github.com/DustyDrifter/AltaCast
[04:53] <Polluticon> Is it any different from edcast?
[04:55] <sarnold> a link I found for edcast lead here, https://code.google.com/p/edcast-reborn/
[04:55] <sarnold> they look like they recommend using altacast instead
[04:55] <Polluticon> I'm going to give that a shot. Thanks!
[05:25] <Polluticon> sarnold?
[05:26] <sarnold> hey Polluticon, any success?
[05:26] <Polluticon> I got it all working kind of. The server works and I can stream over it but the sound is not playing from my ubuntu machine. Do i need a seperate client on there too?
[05:28] <sarnold> Polluticon: I think amarok, rythmbox, mplayer, can all do icecast
[05:29] <Polluticon> can any of those be used from just the command line?
[05:29] <sarnold> mplayer
[05:31] <Polluticon> perfect!
[05:31] <Polluticon> Thanks for all the help
[05:31] <sarnold> woo :)
[05:31] <Polluticon> Unfortunately the stream is about 10 seconds behind. Is there anything I can do about that?
[05:32] <sarnold> I suspect there's both server-side and client-side caching.. you may be able to turn both of those down
[05:33] <sarnold> s/caching/buffering/
[05:34] <sarnold> hmm, I odn't see anything promising in the mplayer manpage :/
[05:34] <Polluticon> Yeah I think I'll just live with it. It's pretty much just for music anyway so it doesn;t matter too much
[05:35] <sarnold> just so long as the easy volume and mute are on the linux system.. heh
[05:36] <sarnold> if it is really music... you could export a share from your windows sytem, mount it on linux with smb or cifs, and use something like mpd. mplayer, etc., to play them directl on the linux system
[05:38] <Polluticon> The server has a pre/power amp with volume controls connected to it. And I would do that but I use Spotify for music so I needed this to pick up it's sound without the physical files
[05:39] <sarnold> there is (or was?) a native spotify client that I used a few years ago.. it was a gui application, though
[05:40] <Polluticon> Yeah I actually set up a mopidy server on it as well as a client called ncmpcpp to control it through the command line
[05:41] <sarnold> mopidy looks neat
[05:41] <sarnold> is it? :)
[05:41] <Polluticon> But the client was really limiting and I couldn't find a better one. I also wanted to be able to stream youtube or something else too
[05:41] <Polluticon> mopidy is pretty cool. Really easy to setup
[05:44] <Polluticon> ice cast is cool though because I can listen through in web browser on any device
[05:48] <Polluticon> anyway thanks for all the help
[07:13] <sparchitect_> Q: I'm trying to configure wordpress on my Ubuntu LAMP. My ISP blocks port 80 so I have been messing around with work-arounds and I believe the apache server is setup correctly and serves through port 8080 instead of 80. When I connect to the server from outside the local network(m.y.i.p:8080), it will show the default apache page as it should. However, when I proceed to view the wordpress installation (m.y.i.p:8080/blog),
[07:14] <sparchitect_> This, of course, causes wordpress to not show up since ISP is blocking port 80. QUESTION: How do I make wordpress stay on port 8080 and not automatically redirect the browser to the default port?
[08:02] <histo> sparchitect_: configure your router to forward incoming requests on 8080 to port 80 on your server.  then just browse your external ip like normal
[08:02] <sparchitect_> histo: hmmm, interesting, I thought I had already correctly forwarded the port. Let me check again
[08:05] <sparchitect_> histo: This is what my forwarding looks like right now. Does this look right to you? I'm such a novice with all this networking stuff =P http://imgur.com/8KhAAfS
[08:07] <histo> sparchitect_: what dns are you using?
[08:08] <histo> sparchitect_: you need to configure a redirect so that whatever.com points to yourip:8080   now and you should be good
[08:09] <histo> sparchitect_: also no point in forwarding port 80 > yourbox in your router config if you isp is blocking it the 8080 to yourbox:80 is sufficient
[08:10] <sparchitect_> histo: well I've got a redirect setup through NameCheap, and I believe I'm on their dynamic dns. and navigating to mydomain.com is correctly redirecting me to mylocalip:8080
[08:11] <histo> sparchitect_: then you should be good to go so wordpress should be at mydomain.com/blog
[08:11] <sparchitect_> I feel like it has to do with wordpress configurations maybe, and thanks for pointing out the useless port forwards
[08:12] <sparchitect_> hmm then maybe i need to mess around with my redirecting at namecheap then
[08:12] <histo> sparchitect_: yeah make sure it's resolving properly, didn't know they provided that.
[08:13] <histo> sparchitect_: https://community.namecheap.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3622
[08:13] <sparchitect_> histo: Also, the only way I can test it (outside of local network) is on my LG smartphone with 3G data service. perhaps this isn't the best way to test this sort of thing
[08:14] <histo> sparchitect_: you should be able to test inside the network by going to mydomain.com
[08:14] <sparchitect_> histo: Oh, awesome, thank you so much for your help histo. You've definitely pointed me in the right direction!
[08:15] <sparchitect_> histo: oh, intersting, then I suppose its working fine then and it is just a problem with my crappy cellular data network
[08:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:50] <edgy> Hi, I set my apache to event mpm but with every apache update in my ubuntu server, it reverts back to prefork how can I fix this?


[04:29] <tgm4883> Is there a site similiar to packages.ubuntu.com for armhf packages?
[07:44] <PhilippeP> 'morning
[09:40] <bqphone> any idea when ubuntu 15.04 update will be available to bq phones?
[09:42] <bqphone> 2nd question is how can we watch videos posted on facebook? the web app doesnt support that (unless its a youtube link)
[10:07] <Dragonkeeper> bqphone: just change the channel when u flash to devel and ull have 15.04  and  alot of updates
[10:08] <bqphone> how can i do that?
[10:09] <Dragonkeeper> ubuntu-device-flash  tool
[10:12] <bqphone> i dont have it, is it found in ubuntu store?
[10:12] <Dragonkeeper> it needs to be done from desktop
[10:13] <DanChapman> bqphone: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[10:14] <LostSoul> ji everyone. I'm trying to take screenshots from Ubuntu touch. Can someone tell me how to do it please??
[10:14] <bqphone> wont come to ubuntu phone from normal update like 14.10 ?
[10:15] <Dragonkeeper> it will but its not at that stage just yet
[10:15] <LostSoul> OK how can I do different update.
[10:15] <Dragonkeeper> hold both volume buttons LostSoul
[10:16] <DanChapman> bqphone: the next RTM image i believe will be based on vivid but that may be a few weeks away yet. So it will be a little while before you get a 15.04 image through normal update
[10:16] <bqphone> okay
[10:17] <bqphone> i will try to update it based on the link you gave
[10:18] <bqphone> any help with respect to embeded videos on facebook?
[10:19] <Dragonkeeper> bqphone: use browser instead, doesnt seem to work within the facebook app
[10:19] <bqphone> ah okay
[10:22] <bqphone> will switch to ubuntu desktop now
[10:37] <ueaw> hello all
[12:11] <bqphone> it seems i failed to update my bq ubuntu to 15.04
[12:12] <bqphone> any guide for ubuntu phone and not for android?
[12:16] <bqphone> http://pastebin.com/vrSPByF3
[12:16] <dadexix86> bqphone, guide to do what exactly?
[12:16] <bqphone> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/#install-ubuntu this one
[12:17] <bqphone> i did want to update my ubuntu phone from 14.10 to 15.04
[12:17] <Guest3225> Good day.
[12:18] <Guest3225> Anybody can help with porting?
[12:18] <Guest3225> i cant switch on adb in recovery...
[12:18] <dadexix86> bqphone, but... have you read the guide that you linked?
[12:19] <dadexix86> Tip: The --bootstrap option is normally only used when installing Ubuntu the first time. It requires that the device is booted to the bootloader. After Ubuntu is installed, one uses the ubuntu-device-flash command (without the --bootstrap option) while the device is booted to Ubuntu.
[12:20] <dadexix86> bqphone, and going on in the guide there is an explicit paragraph on upgrading an Ubuntu installation. read _all_ the guide please.
[12:24] <popey> bqphone: I'd wait for the next over the air update if I were you.
[12:25] <bqphone> i guess i should do that
[12:27] <Guest3225> please wait. i downloaded aosp source code by this command: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting and then Added my own new device  and kernel from another aosp... After i got  system.img,  recovery.img, and boot.img.  Flash this files in my device... if i flashing recvery.img to the boot partition i see label "Android" on the screen.
[12:28] <rigved> hi everyone
[12:28] <Guest3225> in hardware console i see  this text"recovery: applet not found"
[12:29] <Guest3225> when i try execute "adbd" i recived: " cannot bind 'tcp:5037' "
[12:29] <rigved> i'm trying to flash Ubuntu Touch from a Ubuntu 14.04 machine to a Nexus 7 (2013) and i'm hitting this bug: #1427359
[12:30] <rigved> has anyone else encountered it? does anyone have a work-around for this issue??
[12:45] <popey> Guest3225: why are you running adbd?
[12:49] <Guest3225> I dont know how to install system in device.. i try use this command "rootstock-touch-install "$OUT/$ROOTFS" "$OUT/system.img" but for that i need connect my device by adb...
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> someone knows if ubuntu uses the NFC chip or is it also secured?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu touch that is
[13:13] <Guest3225> how i can generate system.img (ubuntu.tar.gz+android_sustem.img) om PC, without using device by adb?
[13:13] <Guest3225> Please,  help me
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> Guest3225: whats your device?
[13:13] <Guest3225> based on rk3288
[13:13] <Guest3225> soc
[13:14] <Guest3225> official not supported
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> Guest3225: try the XDA forums for your device, maybe it has a project
[13:14] <Guest3225> i compiled own recovery.img, system.img and boot.img by this guide https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device
[13:43] <amari> Hi what will be the retail price of the Meizu mx4 ubuntu version?
[13:49] <PreSSion> Hello wow iba ese a lot og ubuntu users
[15:01] <brunch875> Hello!
[15:03] <cwayne_> Hello
[17:09] <czxczxcz> fgdf
[17:09] <czxczxcz> dfgdgdg
[17:10] <czxczxcz> fdggfdgdg
[18:10] <Se7> hi  guys
[18:11] <Se7> why my bq phone doesn t download update?
[18:11] <Se7> i ve got youtube telegramm and myphoto
[18:12] <Se7> none of them download
[18:12] <Se7> any idea?
[18:12] <peat-psuwit> Se7: Can you tell me what's the error appeared on the screen?
[18:13] <Se7> no error
[18:13] <Se7> just stack
[18:15] <Se7> i tried to reboot many time...still nothing
[18:16] <Se7> :(
[18:20] <Se7> oh well seems no solutions
[20:03] <amari> Hi, is BQ planning to release a new ubuntu phone with 5 inches?
[21:16] <billy_idle> Hi :) Is there a way to show pictures of artists in "My music scope"? I've got some artists which aren't listed and I want to add pics. artist.jpg, fanart.jpg, artist.nfo... didn't work. Any ideas?
[21:37] <fossrox> hi everyone :)
[21:52] <fossrox> I'm not sure how up to date is the linked documentation so please don't get me wrong with my following questions:
[21:53] <fossrox> What would be the most modern tablet supported by Ubuntu? And same question about phone.
[21:54] <brunch875> no idea about tablets but the phone should be the meizu MX4 if I know correctly, since it's about to get released as an ubuntu phone (if it hasn't already)
[21:55] <brunch875> the BQ aquaris e4.5 is compatible with ubuntu too
[21:55] <brunch875> utouch was built mostly on the nexus4, but the support is dropping from what I know
[21:55] <genii> Whatever the most recent Google tablet line is the answer to the other
[22:03] <kostkon> fossrox, if you are in the EU, you could get the bq phone


[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[18:09] <santa_> RikMills: ugh @ that pkg-kde-tools bug report
[18:10] <santa_> wtf man
[18:18] <santa_> it's very weird, looks like it's lintian itself what is hanging (I've just checked our simple code)
[18:40] <RikMills> santa_: it is lintian. the lintian version in proposed fixed it
[18:41] <RikMills> santa_: the one in release had a change which made each check run in a new process!
[18:41] <RikMills> now reverted
[18:41] <santa_> RikMills: oh, that's great, so we could reupload pkg-kde-tools without Laney's workaround once this fixed lintian migrates, correct?
[18:42] <RikMills> santa_: yes, I tested using the real infra in ppa, and it worked again with the new lintian
[18:44] <santa_> thank god. and sorry for the latency replying, I have been even more busy than usual
[18:44] <santa_> rushing some things because of the plague and such
[18:45] <santa_> so ... maybe next weekend I will have some time to fix that iron hand problem
[18:45] <RikMills> no problem at all.
[18:45] <santa_> I already had a quick look some days ago, should be feasible to fix
[18:46] <RikMills> good. I use it from my container, so is handy


[05:36] <Guest63127> @last --regexp m/(.*\w){512}/
[05:36] <ubot4> Guest63127: Error: You don't have the misc.last capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[05:36] <ubot2> Guest63127: Error: You don't have the misc.last capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[05:36] <rww> what the lol.
[05:37] <rww> @help last
[05:37] <ubot4> rww: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
[05:37] <ubot2> rww: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
[05:37] <rww> oh jesus. bots >..
[05:38] <Unit193> I think that's one of the bad commands (Kills the bot) I know it was something with last in it...
[05:38] <rww> ah
[05:39] <rww> well, yay our botmasters, I guess.
[05:39] <Unit193> Ah, here it is https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria/issues/157
[05:45] <Unit193> Speaking of bots, I think they are doing it again in #kubuntu :P


[02:03] <duanedesign> evening U1inites :)
[02:08] <ajmitch> afternoon
[02:08] <duanedesign> ajmitch: did your music get downloaded?
[02:08] <ajmitch> sure
[02:09] <ajmitch> all it really took was u1sdtool -q
[02:09] <ajmitch> telling it to disconnect & reconnect wasn't enough for it
[02:09] <duanedesign> ajmitch: good you got it
[02:09] <ajmitch> rhythmbox restarted the syncdaemon, the music finished downloading
[02:09] <duanedesign> ahhh
[02:09] <ajmitch> I'll see if I can fetch the relavant log if it's useful
[02:10] <duanedesign> was this the disconnect/reconnect in the Ubuntu One Preferences Panel, under Devices tab
[02:10] <ajmitch> no, with u1sdtool
[02:10] <ajmitch> as I was watching syncdaemon.log :)
[02:11] <duanedesign> ajmitch: weird. So it had to be auto-started by Rhythmbox
[02:12] <ajmitch> what's weird is that it downloaded 9 of the 10 songs of the album & stalled at 0.8MB on the last one
[03:58]  * huntz0r is away: I'm busy
[04:01] <hallyn> chatting elsewhere about Ubuntu One, it occurred to me that I'd be more likely to store music there if I coudl specify priorities - "download this (smaller, but important) stuff first when I sync a new machine".  Then music can d/l later.  Is that being considered?
[04:23] <Chipaca> hallyn: you can do that now
[04:23] <Chipaca> hallyn: not super user friendly-ly
[04:24] <duanedesign> you can? /me wonders how :)
[04:24] <Chipaca> hallyn: but, with u1sdtool, you can temporarily unsubscribe a user-designated folder, so if all your music is in a user-designated folder (such as the one the music store creates, or any other one), you can unsubscribe it while the important stuff syncs, and then resubscribe
[04:25] <Chipaca> subscription is a local action, so it doesn't affect your other computers synced. This is different from udf creation/deletion, which does. So take care.
[04:26] <Chipaca> duanedesign: what do you think of the submenu and the location bar now, btw?
[04:29] <hallyn> Chipaca: cool - i'll give that a shot, thanks
[04:30] <ajmitch> Chipaca: UDFs like the music folder are synced to each computer, right?
[04:31] <Chipaca> ajmitch: to each computer subscribed to the UDF, yes
[04:32] <ajmitch> is subscription to the music folder automatic?
[04:32] <ajmitch> hm, 'invalid openid transaction', that's a new one
[04:33] <ajmitch> Chipaca: why I ask is that I don't really need 500MB of music synced to each VM that I have :)
[04:33] <Chipaca> ajmitch: not sure what you mean by 'automatic'. yes or no, depending on that :)
[04:34] <duanedesign> Chipaca: i havent booted into Maverick recently, I will check that out
[04:34] <Chipaca> ajmitch: ah, yeah, default is to sync
[04:34] <Chipaca> duanedesign: thanks
[04:34] <ajmitch> I should clarify, I mean with a default desktop install with ubuntuone-client-gnome installed
[04:35] <Chipaca> duanedesign: I ask because I only hear about it when it's really bad, and want to hear it also when it's merely bad :)
[04:35] <ajmitch> hah
[04:35] <duanedesign> Chipaca: been neading to boot up my Maverick install, got some packages to test..
[04:35] <ajmitch> you've been improving the nautilus widget?
[04:35] <Chipaca> there are more improvements scheduled, but yes
[04:35] <Chipaca> we won't get to do everything we would've hoped, but it should be less painful
[04:36]  * ajmitch can't really see visible improvements at the moment
[04:36] <Chipaca> ajmitch: if you sign up with an account that has a music folder, it'll download that by default, yes
[04:36] <duanedesign> Chipaca: /5
[04:36] <Chipaca> ajmitch: you should set up an account just for testing, and use that :)
[04:36] <duanedesign> oops
[04:36]  * Chipaca hopes that wasn't a password
[04:36] <ajmitch> Chipaca: right, but how should I setup multiple U1 accounts with the single ubuntu SSO login? :)
[04:37] <ajmitch> from what I know that's not allowed/supported?
[04:37] <Chipaca> ajmitch: inside the vm, use a different sso login
[04:37] <Chipaca> ajmitch: not sure I understood you correctly
[04:38] <ajmitch> that's more or less what I mean
[04:38] <ajmitch> with PPAs, you can have multiple 2GB PPAs on the one launchpad account
[04:38] <Chipaca> ah
[04:38] <ajmitch> but from what I know of U1, the U1 account is just the ubuntu single-signon account
[04:39] <Chipaca> right, no, ubuntu one subscriptions are 1:1 ubuntu one accounts, and you can only have one of these for a sso account
[04:39] <ajmitch> it's just due to me wanting to keep different kinds of files in the one place
[04:39] <Chipaca> so, yes to what you just said (more or less)
[04:40] <Chipaca> clearly i'm tired, or i would've stopped using non-contextual references in my reply
[04:40] <ajmitch> heh
[04:40] <ajmitch> or it's mid-afternoon & I'm making no sense whatsoever :)
[04:41] <Chipaca> duanedesign: no problem and no hurry. Just please ping me re that when you can, please; I want to know.
[04:42] <duanedesign> ok
[04:42] <duanedesign> brb...
[04:42] <ajmitch> ok, now I need to figure out why I can't connect in my maverick VM
[04:42]  * ajmitch hunts
[04:43] <ajmitch> Invalid request token in u1-prefs.log after going through the 'add my computer' step
[04:44] <ajmitch> ah, there's a traceback in ~/.cache/sso/oauth-login.log
[04:48] <Chipaca> the oauth-login log sucks
[04:48] <Chipaca> it has no dates :(
[04:48] <ajmitch> I suspect my problem is that I'm a release behind on ubuntu-sso-client
[04:49]  * ajmitch is patiently waiting to install updated packaged
[04:49] <ajmitch> s/packaged/packages/
[04:53] <Chipaca> ajmitch: ubuntu-sso-client isn't talking with syncdaemon just yet
[04:54] <Chipaca> ajmitch: so it shouldn't be that
[04:55] <ajmitch> so the AUTH_FAILED I'm now getting in syncdaemon.log is due to something else?
[04:56] <Chipaca> ajmitch: I hope so :)
[04:57] <ajmitch> then I'm not sure what's going wrong, since the u1 token in gnome-keyring is just new  :)
[04:57] <Chipaca> ajmitch: how did that token get into the keyring?
[04:58] <Chipaca> ajmitch: through a browser, right?
[04:58] <Chipaca> ajmitch: and not through ussoc, i mean
[04:58] <ajmitch> by trying to connect through the preferences app, which took me to the page in firefox
[04:58] <Chipaca> ah, ok
[04:59] <Chipaca> ajmitch: you're in maverick, not the nightlies, right?
[04:59] <ajmitch> yes, maverick
[05:00] <ajmitch> not all packages are up to date, but the ubuntuone-client* packages are
[05:00] <Chipaca> ajmitch: can you killall ubuntuone-syncdaemon; /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon --debug ?
[05:01] <Chipaca> ajmitch: then in a different terminal u1sdtool -c
[05:01] <ajmitch> sure
[05:01] <Chipaca> ajmitch: then, pastebin the bit of the log around the auth failed
[05:03] <ajmitch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/479742/
[05:04] <Chipaca> yep, you're getting auth failed
[05:04]  * Chipaca cap'n obvious
[05:04] <ajmitch> not very helpful, is it?
[05:04] <ajmitch> no more than what I saw in syncdaemon.log , anyway :)
[05:05] <ajmitch> is it worth removing the ubuntuone token from the keyring again & retrying from the preferences app?
[05:05] <Chipaca> 1 sec
[05:06] <Chipaca> ajmitch: what is the token in the keyring called?
[05:06] <ajmitch> UbuntuOne token for https://ubuntuone.com
[05:06] <ajmitch> old url?
[05:07] <Chipaca> ^C syncdaemon, remove from keyring, relaunch syncdaemon --debug, u1sdtool -c
[05:07] <ajmitch> OK
[05:08] <ajmitch> done, and giving tracebacks now
[05:08] <ajmitch> one sec, it's complaining about expired timestamp & the threshold
[05:08] <ajmitch> it *appears* that the VM clock has skewed a bit
[05:09] <ajmitch> Failure: ubuntuone.syncdaemon.main.NoAccessToken: OAuthError: Expired timestamp: given<PHONE_NUMBER> and now<PHONE_NUMBER> has a greater difference than threshold 900
[05:10] <ajmitch> is there some way this can be made more robust than looking for errors such as this?
[05:10] <ajmitch> the VM clock is out by just over 15 minutes
[05:11] <Chipaca> ajmitch: that's one weird oauth error you're hitting. Nice one.
[05:11] <ajmitch> sorry to waste so much of your time with it, I should have looked at the time there :)
[05:11] <Chipaca> no prob
[05:12] <Chipaca> but it wasn't showing that error (in the pastebin at least)
[05:12] <ajmitch> yeah, I'm surprised at that, because I'm sure that I didn't miss that much of the log
[05:12] <ajmitch> this reminds me of kerberos tickets & the fun with clock skew there
[05:14]  * ajmitch wonders what to write in a bug report for this
[05:16] <Chipaca> ajmitch: "syncdaemon not working because chipaca too sleepy"
[05:16] <Chipaca> or something
[05:16]  * Chipaca looks longingly towards the bed
[05:16] <ajmitch> your sleepiness isn't what's caused things like a clock skew error to be hidden from the user :)
[05:17] <ajmitch> I'll keep the clock as-is & take a further look at it if I get time this evening
[05:18] <ajmitch> & then I'll get around to updating the debian packages :)
[05:18] <ajmitch> thanks for your help with it
[05:22] <Chipaca>  thank you
[05:23] <Chipaca> and g'night :)
[05:23] <ajmitch> night, sleep well :)
[08:42] <mandel> good morning!! :D
[08:55] <duanedesign> mandel: good morning
[08:56] <mandel> duanedesign, morning :D
[08:57] <duanedesign> mandel: had not booted into Maverick in awhile. Booted it up just now to do some testing. The work that has been done on the nautilus extension look good.
[08:58] <mandel> duanedesign, oh, dont talk me about that... I'm working on the windows port and I have not been able tow ork on linux for far too long :(
[08:58] <mandel> duanedesign, I need to get some time to see the improvements
[09:00] <duanedesign> mandel: how is the windows port coming along?
[09:02] <mandel> duanedesign, nice, we are goign to work with the python code we have but we are writing the UI and other stuff with c#so it is as native as posible to the OS, we have done the IPC betwenn python and c# and now moving to remove the dependency on dbus and pynotify
[09:03] <duanedesign> mandel: nice.
[10:34] <mkarnicki> hi all :)
[10:36] <duanedesign> hello mkarnicki
[10:38] <mkarnicki> hi duanedesign :)
[13:28] <Chipaca> mandel: vds: ping
[13:33] <vds> Chipaca: pong
[13:35] <mandel> Chipaca, pong
[13:36] <Chipaca> vds: mandel: I've got to talk with __lucio__ about the branch some, but it looks complicated. What are you guys doing meanwhile?
[13:38] <mandel> Chipaca, I'm finishing the issue with the firewalls and it is vds who can give you more info, last I know we where between suing verteroks branch and try to merge with trunk or use __lucio__ branchs and start from scratch
[13:38] <mandel> Chipaca, from what I know verterok says is better to use what __lucio__ did
[13:39] <Chipaca> right, my question was more: are you guys blocked on this?
[13:39] <Chipaca> no matter what we do it'll take a few days, so I want to find a way for you to move forward without this, if it is blocking you that is
[13:40] <mandel> Chipaca, oh, that, well I'm not for the next days since I'm goign to use tdd to remove pynotify, I'll try to make our change pass all the same tests, but I think vds will soon be blocked by this
[13:40] <mandel> if he is not already
[13:44] <vds> Chipaca: I'm working on the ipc side with protobuf
[13:45] <vds> Chipaca: I'm not blocked in the short term
[13:46] <Chipaca> ok
[13:47] <kklimonda> what documentation on couchdb do you recommend?
[13:47] <kklimonda> i.e. books, web pages etc.
[13:48] <kklimonda> honk can someone take a look at bug 601932?
[13:48] <kklimonda> hmm.
[13:48] <kklimonda> oh, ubottu isn't here
[13:49] <vds> kklimonda: the o'reilly book?
[13:49] <kklimonda> the definitive guide?
[13:50] <Chipaca> kklimonda: the bug is re funambol, not couch, right?
[13:50] <Chipaca> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/601932
[13:50] <mandel> I though ubottu was here right? bug 608333
[13:51] <kklimonda> Chipaca: yes, the bug isn't related to my question - I've just remembered to poke someone about it again :)
[13:51] <Chipaca> kklimonda: ah. thisfred maybe?
[13:51] <mandel> meh, is not :(
[13:51] <Chipaca> kklimonda: looking at rye's comment on that bug, it might actually be couchdb and not funambol
[13:52]  * thisfred looks
[13:52] <Chipaca> ok, this connection sucks, I'm going to go back to the other one
[13:52] <Chipaca> hopefully it'll be working again
[13:52] <Chipaca> bbiab
[13:53] <thisfred> rye: do you have the full traceback of the oops? What you posted stops short of the actual error.
[13:54] <rye> thisfred, /srv/ubunet-logs/app-logs-prod/lardizabala/2010-07-07/36271-1649appserverZADGBdIHcDAFEECGFIefHCdIJHaAIeECe244990.oops.bz2
[13:54] <rye> thisfred, on buffaloberry
[13:54] <thisfred> thx
[13:58] <thisfred> rye Chipaca: the error is thrown in django wsgi translogging. It might well be that the underlying cause is corruption of a contacts record, but it's hard to tell. I think this is one for the web & mobile team
[13:59] <thisfred> Until they can trace it back to what went wrong, or show us an error in the cloud_server code
[14:00] <rye> thisfred, i believe some application_annotations subtree is not in an expected format, probably a string instead of hash object
[14:01] <thisfred> rye, that could well be it
[14:45] <kklimonda> are there some examples of how to use views viwth couchdb-glib ?
[14:48] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, no, sorry, but the API is straightforward
[14:49] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, you get the docs containing views as CouchdbDesignDocuments
[14:49] <rodrigo_> GSList          *couchdb_database_get_design_documents (CouchdbDatabase *database, GError **error);
[14:49] <rodrigo_> GSList          *couchdb_database_execute_view (CouchdbDatabase *database,
[14:49] <rodrigo_>                                                 const char *design_doc,
[14:49] <rodrigo_>                                                 const char *view_name,
[14:49] <rodrigo_>                                                 GError **error);
[14:50] <rodrigo_> CouchdbDesignDocument *couchdb_database_get_design_document (CouchdbDatabase *database,
[14:50] <rodrigo_>                                                              const char *docid,
[14:50] <rodrigo_>                                                              GError **error);
[14:50] <rodrigo_> that's the whole API for views
[14:50] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, you will also get the DesignDocuments when you call list_documents or get_all_documents
[14:52] <kklimonda> rodrigo_: mhm, thanks
[14:59] <kklimonda> bah, gedit in maverick has some huge memory leaks..
[15:00] <kklimonda> it's using over 2GB of ram..
[15:00] <mkarnicki> kklimonda: :O wow
[15:01] <mkarnicki> a bit too much as for a text editor ;D
[15:18] <kklimonda> any idea how much memory does couchdb for android use?
[15:19] <kklimonda> 8MB in idle according do couch.io.. hmm..
[15:19] <kklimonda> or is it 8MB less than in previous release?
[15:50] <jan____> kklimonda: 8MB idle
[15:50] <jan____> kklimonda: hop on #couchdb for couchdb questions :)
[16:22] <mandel> ping vds
[16:47] <kklimonda> rodrigo_: do you have a moment? I get weird errors somewhere inside couchdb-glib and I can't decide whether I do something wrong or are vala binding to blame or maybe there is an actual bug.. I have this piece of code in vala: http://pastebin.com/JsQc9KKY which translates into this sweet little thing: http://pastebin.com/xbuNEqma and I get this output in the terminal http://pastebin.com/M7tCe1a4
[16:59] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, looking
[17:02] <kklimonda> it may be that I'm misusing weak in vala again and the list of documents returned is freed too fast..
[17:02] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, hmm, value: null on the response from http://<IP_ADDRESS>:5984/kangaroo/_design/channel/_view/channels_by_guid , that seems wrong from couchdb
[17:03] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, let me have a look at the doc
[17:03] <kklimonda> ah yes, it may obviously be a bug in my couchdb view :)
[17:04] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/HTTP_view_API#Access.2BAC8-Query
[17:04] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, well, do you have the source code of your view?
[17:05] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, it can be also a bug on couchdb-glib, I didn't do a lot of testing, just with a simple views I had
[17:07] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, also, see what does couchdb return if you just enter the URL on the browser
[17:07] <rodrigo_> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:5984/kangaroo/_design/channel/_view/channels_by_guid
[17:08] <kklimonda> well, the map function is just "function (doc) { emit (doc.guid, null) }"
[17:09] <kklimonda> and there are no errors when I run it in browser (or visit this the url you pasted directly)
[17:13] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, and what does it have in value: ?
[17:13] <rodrigo_> I guess the null in your emit causes that
[17:13] <rodrigo_> although I think value should also include the doc.guid
[17:13] <rodrigo_> thisfred, ^^ ?
[17:14] <thisfred> sry really busy atm
[17:15] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, try replacing that emit (...null) with some field and see what happens in both the browser and couchdb-glib
[17:16] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, couchdb-glib creates the CouchdbDocument from the value: field, so if it's null, you'll get nothing
[17:16] <rodrigo_> couchdb-glib should probably deal better with that, and just return an empty document with the id
[17:16] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, file a bug for that, and I'll fix it
[17:17] <rodrigo_> I need to go now, bbl
[17:17] <kklimonda> rodrigo_: how to title it? "ugh, something broke but still, couchdb-glib, you coud do better than that"? ;)
[17:20] <kklimonda> ok, filled
[19:29] <kklimonda> great, now I can't access my contacts from browser..
[19:29] <kklimonda> and I've wiped my phone and computer :D
[19:31] <kklimonda> ah, I have one more backup fortunately
[19:32] <mkarnicki> kklimonda: I didn't give it much thought while stress testing ubuntuone-android-contacts recent days :D It's good to have a backup!
[19:34] <kklimonda> well, it doesn't work for me ;)
[19:35] <kklimonda> it hasn't worked for over a month
[19:35] <kklimonda> oh wait, it's not funambol
[19:35] <kklimonda> but the error is serverside anyway
[19:36] <mkarnicki> kklimonda: we've been working on it
[19:36] <kklimonda> ah, it's still funambol.. i see, i see..
[19:36] <mkarnicki> yes
[19:36] <mkarnicki> actually sil has been working on it, I've been only helping
[22:11] <mwhudson> hi
[22:11] <mwhudson> i'm still trying to use u1 to save my notmuch mail store
[22:12] <mwhudson> (70k messages + a xapian db)
[22:12] <mwhudson> it's not working very well :(
[22:13] <duanedesign> hello mwhudson
[22:13] <mwhudson> hi
[22:32] <ajmitch> mwhudson: has it still not finished syncing them? :)
[22:34] <mwhudson> ajmitch: no :(
[22:34] <mwhudson> though i have been stopping the daemon occasionally because it's doing so much io it's interfering with my using the machine
[22:35] <ajmitch> that's kind of depressing
[22:37] <lifeless> mwhudson: bzr it
[22:44] <mkarnicki> urbanape: Hi Zachery :) I'm author of AndroidU1 and helping out with ubuntuone-android-contacts -- I applied for ubuntuone-android-client-team, is it ok for me to join :) ?


[08:11] <Kilos> o/
[08:12] <pavlushka> hello
[10:42] <Kilos> hi pavlushka all ok there?
[10:43] <Kilos> the world is i n big turmoil at the moment waiting to see whats happening in the states
[10:43] <pavlushka> Kilos: well if you like comedy then very well :)
[10:44] <Kilos> hahaha yes but it will affeect us all


[23:20] <mup> Bug #1740442 opened: [2.2.2] MD raid doesn't install grub on both disks <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1740442>


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[00:09] <Unit193> And yeah, but different breakage.  Translators thing doesn't work for another reason.
[00:09] <bluesabre> cool
[00:09] <bluesabre> recipe good then, putting it on -staging for vivid
[00:10] <Unit193> Compare https://unit193.net/xubuntu/fi/ln-idp49113396.html and https://unit193.net/xubuntu/es/ln-idp39481532.html to what you build in chroot, you'll no longer get the translators.
[00:10] <Unit193> Heh, glad you like it. :P
[00:11] <Unit193> bluesabre: If you're doing a daily, you can disable the tests so you don't get spammed.  Also, I have a daily setup, but it doesn't build a package, just uploads the docs.
[00:13] <bluesabre> are the tests likely to fail for a while, or be a once-in-a-while thing?
[00:16] <Unit193> Well, es tends to fail.
[08:02] <elfy> ummm
[08:02] <elfy> so looking at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~knome/xubuntu-docs/vivid-upgrading/view/head:/desktop-guide/C/migrating-upgrading.xml
[08:06] <elfy> seems that it was rather pointless me doing anything in the first place ;)
[08:06] <Unit193> Heey, you must have done good!
[08:06] <ochosi> knome, Unit193: intelligent hiding was unfortunately written for 4.10 and then merged into 4.11, which seemingly (without any obvious reasons though) has broken the whole hiding logic a bit, so that needs to be fixed first before we can ship it
[08:07] <elfy> yep so good that's something else I can ignore in future :)
[08:07] <elfy> hi ochosi
[08:07] <Unit193> ochosi: Ah, so I shouldn't select that option, then.  Thanks.
[08:08] <ochosi> hey elfy
[08:08] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah well i'm not sure anymore what exactly it breaks
[08:08] <ochosi> i think it breaks autohiding too
[08:08] <ochosi> if i ever get time, i'll look at it
[08:08] <Unit193> Chance it'll be fixored soonish?
[08:08] <ochosi> hm, no
[08:09] <ochosi> the author of the original patch (JPohlmann) won't look at it anymore and andrzejr said he doesn't get why it's not workig
[08:09] <ochosi> working
[08:09] <ochosi> so the worst-case scenario is that the patch will be reverted
[08:09] <Unit193> Won't look anymore?
[08:09] <ochosi> yeah, he's not contributing to xfce anymore
[08:09] <Unit193> Oh.
[08:09] <Unit193> That's sad.
[08:10] <ochosi> and true :>
[08:10] <elfy> I guess that's a QA doesn't need to worry then
[08:10] <ochosi> elfy: your evince screenshot, is that supposed to tell me that the bug isn't present in unity..?
[08:10] <elfy> ummm
[08:11] <elfy> that was days ago ...
[08:11] <ochosi> it also seems that they have more compressed toolbars, maybe their patch is somehow related to that
[08:11] <ochosi> yeah, but we haven't talked since then
[08:11] <ochosi> "days ago" -> the day before yesterday
[08:11] <elfy> yea - I'm older than you :p
[08:12] <elfy> yep - no bug in unity it seems
[08:14] <ochosi> :)
[08:15] <ochosi> ok, good to know
[08:15] <ochosi> well, actually a bit annoying too
[08:15] <ochosi> but yeah, i guess i'll have to ping around in u-desktop again until i find whoever is responsible for the headerbar patches
[08:16] <elfy> ochosi: I've tried opening up a bunch of different pdf's in different orders and I don't seem to see any pattern
[08:16] <ochosi> right
[08:16] <elfy> though anything that's an exported from odt to pdf doesn't seem to get the issue that I can see
[08:17] <elfy> ochosi: blueprints all approved :)
[08:19] <ochosi> cool
[08:20] <ochosi> that was a really productive session on sunday
[08:20] <elfy> yep
[08:20] <ochosi> at least we have a tiny head-start on V
[08:20] <elfy> :)
[08:24] <Unit193> "UOS"
[08:27] <elfy> "UDS"
[08:27] <Noskcaj> Does anyone here use bluetooth in *buntu?
[08:28] <elfy> not many do - which is why we don't test it any longer
[08:28] <Noskcaj> I'm looking for someone to help with the bluez5 transition
[08:28] <ObrienDave> help, in what way?
[08:28] <elfy> bluesabre must - he's the only one who reported against it last cycle
[08:30] <Noskcaj> ObrienDave, Making sure everything we ship works with it, and maybe helping me package stuff
[08:30] <Noskcaj> hopefully patches aren't needed
[08:31]  * ObrienDave knows nothing about packaging
[08:32] <ochosi> Noskcaj: i'm using bt
[08:33] <Noskcaj> ochosi, In a few week is it ok if i ping you for testing?
[08:33] <ochosi> sure
[08:33] <ochosi> is the stack anywhere in a PPA already?
[08:33] <ochosi> all i saw was blueman 1.99 in bluesabre's PPA
[08:34] <Noskcaj> ochosi, no PPA yet, i'll make one once i'm done with upower
[08:35] <ObrienDave> Noskcaj, i have BT adapter, android phone, can that be of use?
[08:35] <Noskcaj> probably, i'll call for testing when the PPA is done. ty
[08:41] <ochosi> ok, just lemme know then, thanks Noskcaj!
[10:00] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: ping me when we get there
[10:16] <knome> elfy, no, not really pointless. it was a useful starting point and there are still parts of it intact :)
[10:16] <knome> elfy, also, note that since the bug is linked to the blueprint, we don't need a work item for the same item
[12:11] <jjfrv8> slickymasterwork, knome, the discussion about the docs upgrading section change made me realize something...
[12:11] <jjfrv8> I think we might want to change the  wm-settings-manager entity.
[12:11] <jjfrv8> The current version with "icon-> Settings Manager" was kind of a workaround for the situation in Trusty
[12:11] <jjfrv8> Whisker got that nice update in U where Settings got added to the category sidebar and  there is nothing is called "Settings Manager" anymore.
[12:11] <knome> jjfrv8, right, fair point :)
[12:11] <slickymasterWork> yes, absolutely correct
[12:12] <knome> fortunately we did it with entities, so we only have to change it in one place \o/
[12:12] <slickymasterWork> do you want to get on with that jjfrv8?
[12:12] <slickymasterWork> or do you lack the time to do it?
[12:12] <jjfrv8> sure, I can work on it.
[12:12] <knome> it's an almost trivial thing to do... the only thing left to ask is whether we want to explain that
[12:13] <knome> "go to [icon] -> [icon]" might not be the best way to put it
[12:13] <knome> i think we decided to keep the settings manager text because of that thing ^
[12:13] <slickymasterWork> hey knome, morning ;)
[12:13] <knome> because if you know the name of the application you want to open, you can at least search for it in the whiskermenu
[12:13] <knome> good day slickymasterWork!
[12:14] <jjfrv8> Yeah, I thought we might want to put some kind of explanation in there about how you can search for one of the settings dialogs or you could use that icon to see the whole shebang at once.
[12:14] <slickymasterWork> yes, but I'm not sure if there's really a need to explain it knome
[12:14] <slickymasterWork> isn't that already implied?
[12:15] <knome> what about "[icon] -> [icon] (opens the Settings Manager)"
[12:15] <jjfrv8> except it's called "Settings"
[12:15] <knome> jjfrv8, in the GUI, right
[12:15] <jjfrv8> ja
[12:15] <slickymasterWork> yes
[12:15] <slickymasterWork> the label in whisker is settings
[12:16] <jjfrv8> the dialog also says "Settings"
[12:16] <knome> slickymasterWork, kind of, but really, the icons are supposed to be a nice additional touch and guide to find it
[12:16] <knome> so what about:
[12:16] <jjfrv8> the icon tooltip says "All Settings"
[12:16] <knome> [icon] -> [icon] (<guilabel>Settings</guilabel>, opens the Settings Manager)
[12:17] <knome> maybe i'm stubborn, but we've always called it the settings manager, even if the labels said something else
[12:17] <knome> at least we should check if/what we call it elsewhere in the docs
[12:17] <slickymasterWork> hey jjfrv8, haven't noticed that yet, but you're right, the dialog oes just says Settings now
[12:17] <knome> ultimately, consistency is the key
[12:18] <slickymasterWork> right
[12:18] <knome> we can't call it three different names and get away with that :)
[12:18] <slickymasterWork> I agree with your proposal knome -> [icon] -> [icon] (<guilabel>Settings</guilabel>, opens the Settings Manager)
[12:18] <knome> yeah, that sounds like the least ambiguous and helpful
[12:18] <slickymasterWork> jjfrv8: what do you think? ^^
[12:18] <knome> Unit193, were entities translatable again? :)
[12:18] <jjfrv8> sounds good to me. I can work on the proposal
[12:19] <knome> i guess they are.
[12:19] <slickymasterWork> great, do it jjfrv8, and knome or me will merge it
[12:19] <knome> yep ^
[12:19] <knome> or himself.. :)
[12:19] <knome> we're the three that have the access to the main branch
[12:20] <knome> and technically pleia2, but socially she doesn't have the privileges
[12:20] <slickymasterWork> btw knome, I noticed that you haven't add the LP bug number in the changelog, yesterday
[12:20] <knome> my mistake.
[12:20] <slickymasterWork> ok, even better
[12:20] <knome> should probably change that so it is there
[12:20] <knome> whoever merges the settings thing can add it
[12:21] <knome> (just add "(LP: #123456)" at the end of the row
[12:21] <slickymasterWork> ok, easy piezie
[13:00] <elfy> knome: what I mean by pointless is - there was no rush for it, I was trying to use it as a learning exercise, you and slickymasterWork took over, pushed it, etc so yea pointless from that perspective
[13:26] <elfy> knome: could you look at http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/series I get an error if I try and add vivid - we only have utopic available in builds, not sure if there is a bug or my perms are mucked up
[13:26] <elfy> tia
[13:31] <jjfrv8> slickymasterWork, knome, how does this look? http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/settingsmanagerchanges.php
[13:31] <jjfrv8> the first item would just be that single instance, the second one shows what all other settings entities would look like
[13:55] <knome> elfy, nah. the markup was good
[13:55] <knome> elfy, that was a great learning experience, and i think you did well
[13:56] <knome> elfy, i'll look at the tracker... at some point :|
[13:56] <knome> jjfrv8, i'm not (yet) convinced
[13:56] <knome> slickymasterWork, ^ what do you think?
[13:57] <slickymasterWork> will look at it in a second knome
[13:57] <knome> elfy, i see the vivid dailies in the list...
[13:57] <slickymasterWork> just got in from lunch and still have to smoke a cigarette before starting :p
[13:57] <knome> elfy, do you have another problem?
[13:57] <knome> slickymasterWork, hahah :)
[13:58] <slickymasterWork> hey elfy, sorry about that, but ours was a good intention
[13:58] <knome> elfy, and the *29 builds show up in the admin as well
[13:59] <jjfrv8> knome, actually, I'm not convinced either. I think having two entry points to Settings (manager) from whisker is potentially confusing
[13:59] <jjfrv8> and then, of course, there's the issue that the icon could change depending on which theme a user has
[13:59] <knome> yep.
[14:00] <jjfrv8> that's why I think it might be good to have a short section on whisker somewhere
[14:00] <knome> maybe
[14:00] <knome> though we can't link to that in every instance where we mention the menu
[14:00] <knome> but yeah, if it was at the beginning of the docs
[14:01] <knome> maybe a "how to read this documentation" section
[14:01] <knome> i would even say a new section between "What is Xubuntu?" and "Migrating and Upgrading"
[14:03] <jjfrv8> I like that ^. I've got to run but I'll ponder it and if you and slickster have any more suggestions, let me know.
[14:03] <knome> and could be linked to in the "welcome" section in the main page too
[14:04] <knome> ideas: do a short glossary of the different tags we use
[14:05] <knome> and then mention the possibility that the icons are not the same if the user changed the icon theme
[14:05] <knome> that's a good one
[14:06] <slickymasterWork> that's what I was going to suggest
[14:06] <knome> and maybe note about the navigation arrows at the bottom of the page
[14:07] <slickymasterWork> perahps adding a note that whenever user change the them to a different one other than the default, the icons will chamnge
[14:07] <slickymasterWork> `perhaps
[14:07] <knome> not sure if that's the right way to approach it
[14:07] <knome> just mention that "if you have changed your icon theme, the icons might not match"
[14:08] <slickymasterWork> either that or adding that new section you mentioned
[14:08] <slickymasterWork> also
[14:08] <knome> we don't want to patronize too much
[14:09] <slickymasterWork> that's a a double-edged sword
[14:09] <knome> always
[14:09] <knome> anyway, how i see it that this section would not be the place where we teach them how to use xubuntu
[14:09] <knome> but how to use the documentation
[14:10] <knome> if we want to mention what you said, maybe it should be mentioned in the section where we tell them how to change icon themes
[14:10] <slickymasterWork> hmmm
[14:10] <knome> but i'm not sure if it's necessary
[14:10] <knome> either way works for me though
[14:11] <slickymasterWork> I would go for the mention about the implications of changing the theme
[14:12] <slickymasterWork> linked in the welcome section
[14:24] <jjfrv8> bbl
[17:01] <ali12341> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738321 <- we should watch out for this one
[17:01] <elfy> knome: - sorry - was talking about packages
[18:50] <knome> elfy, oh...? i'm not following then, but it's okay... especially if everything's okay :P
[19:05] <elfy> knome: no - it's not okay - Can't build packages for vivid - there is no vivid milestone, if you add milestones in series - then I get an error when trying to do that :)
[19:06] <elfy> but I'm not sure if it's because perms are screwed or ...
[19:06] <knome> ok
[19:06] <knome> i'll try to look at that later, busy now
[19:06] <elfy> yep ok - not a rush at all
[19:44] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, Could you please have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/vivid/xfce4-xkb-plugin/lp-733563
[21:34] <pleia2> were docs reorganized at all for this release?
[21:35] <pleia2> no, I just forget how to do docs
[21:35] <pleia2> nevermind :)
[21:37] <pleia2> knome: is pretty? http://docs.xubuntu.org/1410/
[21:37] <pleia2> I'll update startpage too
[21:39] <knome> pleia2, the startpage branch should be updated
[21:39] <knome> yeah, looks like it should
[21:39] <pleia2> coo'
[21:39] <dkessel> Hmm online docs do not include the translations?
[21:40] <pleia2> knome: hm, last modified 10/07?
[21:40] <pleia2> dkessel: currently we don't build .html pages for non-english in our Makefile
[21:40] <pleia2> so no
[21:41] <pleia2> knome: want me to do MP, or you?
[21:42] <pleia2> knome: also, should look into getting you access to this system, since it's a historical fluke that I have ssh access it may take some time, might as well get started now
[21:44] <pleia2> because bus factor and things
[21:45] <dkessel> pleia2: I think I built non-english HTML docs from the makefile just the other day... It even included them in the start page. Is this a different branch than the installed docs?
[21:47] <pleia2> dkessel: ah, it may be possible but the simple "make" in the desktop-guide/ directory only produces english
[21:48] <dkessel> OK I think I used the root directory
[21:49] <pleia2> ah
[21:50] <pleia2> I see, yeah, that does build in es, fi and pl
[21:50] <pleia2> er, pt
[21:50] <pleia2> suppose we could upload these too, could modify the startpage to point to them
[21:51] <knome> pleia2, hehe :)
[21:51] <knome> hmm, right
[21:51] <knome> if you feel like updating it, you can
[21:51] <knome> otherwise i can do that straight to the docs branch
[21:52] <pleia2> I feel like putting socks on because my cousin is coming to pick me up any minute now
[21:52] <knome> lol
[21:52] <knome> ok, i'll update the branch for you
[21:52] <pleia2> I can do it later, there's no rush
[21:52] <knome> nah
[21:52] <knome> it's trivial
[21:54] <knome> pleia2, done and pushed
[21:55] <pleia2> neat-o
[21:55] <pleia2> where did that tab go
[21:56] <knome> hiding
[21:56] <pleia2> now my internet is acting like I'm at a hotel (oh)
[21:57] <knome> :D :D
[21:57] <slickymaster> good to see pleia2 working on docs :)
[21:57] <knome> at least it's not acting like you're a hotel, like i first read
[21:58] <pleia2> slickymaster: just updating the website ;)
[21:58] <slickymaster> well, anyway it's related
[21:58] <knome> slickymaster, did you understand elfy's problem from earlier?
[21:59] <knome> was he talking about the package tracker maybe?
[21:59]  * slickymaster is feeling lazyI got the idea that it was about the package tracker, yeah
[21:59] <knome> i guess so..
[22:00] <pleia2> okie, http://docs.xubuntu.org/ is updated and I have socks
[22:00]  * slickymaster is infarcted
[22:01] <slickymaster> too many grilled lamb ribs for dinner
[22:01]  * knome longs for the sockless pleia2
[22:01] <pleia2> me too, but I didn't bring practical sandals with me
[22:01] <knome> forestpiskie, package tracker now has vivid series, vivid daily milestone, and xubuntu desktop has a vividdaily build for the vivid daily milestone
[22:01]  * slickymaster goes pour himself a rum
[22:01] <knome> pleia2, so you only took the unpractical sandals?
[22:02] <knome> "a rum"
[22:02] <knome> sounds like a lot of rum
[22:02] <knome> a bottle of rum?
[22:02] <pleia2> knome: yes, good for the beach! but not so good for a pub
[22:02] <knome> damn
[22:02] <knome> you should go barefoot!
[22:02] <slickymaster> lol, no, just a tall glass
[22:02] <knome> slickymaster, 0.5l?