[05:42] <Maakuth> hi all. i'm having trouble with a thinkpad t460s, docks and multi-monitor
[05:42] <Maakuth> when I boot up my machine and stick it to the dock, everything works nice, getting picture on both of the docked monitors
[05:43] <Maakuth> however, if I then move the machine to other dock with different display configuration, it seems that the displayport topology isn't probed again, but the old one is used
[05:44] <Maakuth> resulting in one monitor (which has the same DP port) having picture while the other has not. and then there's picture on the non-connected monitor, by the looks of xrandr and KDE system settings
[05:45] <Maakuth> is there a way to force X11 (or whoever is responsible for this DP probing) to reprobe all the display outputs without restarting the X11 server?
[05:45] <Maakuth> it's with the intel gpu: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sky Lake Integrated Graphics (rev 07)
[05:47] <Maakuth> there is no difference whether I suspend the machine while docked and only wake up after re-docking, or if I undock, use in laptop mode and then re-dock
[05:52] <hateball> Maakuth: which version of kubuntu are you using?
[05:54] <Maakuth> it's the latest LTS with latest patches
[05:55] <Maakuth> I added ubuntu-x-swat-ubuntu-updates and kubuntu-ppa-ubuntu-backports ppa's to see if newer versions helped, but no
[05:56] <hateball> Maakuth: Ah, that was going to be my suggestion, as default 16.04 has issues with multimonitor
[05:56] <hateball> due to both plasma and qt bugs
[05:56] <hateball> I am running 16.04 + backports myself, and... it's not perfect
[05:56] <Maakuth> yeah. KDE works quite a bit better after installing those packages, but this issue remains
[05:57] <hateball> I dont know if reloading plasmashell would trigger a rescan
[05:57] <hateball> "kquitapp plasmashell && kstart plasmashell"
[05:58] <Maakuth> it doesn't unfortunately. I do that almost always after re-docking, as plasmashell tends to crash
[05:59] <Maakuth> I've got this gut feeling that this is responsibility of some lower level X11 component, as xrandr also displays outdated display configuration after re-docking
[06:00] <Maakuth> this is my working machine, so I wouldn't like to update to some other version just for fun
[06:00] <Maakuth> or just for trying it out I mean
[06:01] <hateball> Possibly you could liveboot 17.04 or 17.10 tho
[06:01] <hateball> being that no binary blobs are involved, it should work as expected ootb
[06:01] <Maakuth> that is true. however, these docks are 100km apart
[06:02] <Maakuth> so I have to take care not to crack out a usb connector with the protruding usb stick
[06:02] <hateball> 100km is a bit far
[06:02] <Maakuth> a bit longer commute :)
[06:03] <hateball> I mean it's far in the context of troubleshooting :D
[06:04] <Maakuth> yes. it's not impossible to do, just have to be careful. but that is why I haven't done it yet
[06:05] <Maakuth> the productivity hit of shutting down and starting again everyday is surprisingly small though. the browser and the editor remember their tabs, just have to restart some ruby interpreters :)
[06:15] <hateball> Maakuth: yeah I personally never use suspend et al
[06:17] <Maakuth> just keep it running?
[06:17] <Maakuth> or shut down
[06:29] <hateball> Maakuth: shut down
[06:29] <hateball> 90% of my work is in a browser so
[06:30] <Maakuth> yeah
[06:33] <hateball> the other 10 in a terminal :p
[06:33] <hateball> pretty much
[07:45] <mykl> Hello all, Hope all is well today. I just want to know what are the system requirements if you would like to install KUBUNTU on a virtual environment?
[07:47] <hateball> mykl: Minimal or recommended?
[07:48] <mykl> recommended
[07:48] <hateball> It's nice if your hypervisor allows for 3D accel
[07:48] <mykl> i am creating a virtual kubuntu now using vmware version 10
[07:49] <hateball> It's all down to what you'll use the system for I suppose, but 4GB ram and 2vCPU should be plenty for everyday use
[07:49] <mykl> oh 4GB Ram? alright then. and for the recommended disk storage?
[07:49] <hateball> Well you could perhaps go with lower RAM, but open some browser tabs and apps... and you'll be swapping
[07:50] <hateball> mykl: That's impossible to say, it all depends how many programs and user data you intend to store
[07:50] <mykl> I am going to lower it down from 4GB to 2GB
[07:50] <mykl> so far i will use it for my python lessons and testing
[07:51] <mykl> i am thinking if 100GB will be plenty for a VA
[07:51] <hateball> lol
[07:51] <hateball> I was going to suggest starting with 20GB
[07:51] <hateball> Even that is overkill if you dont have much userdata
[07:51] <mykl> ah alright.. lol
[07:51] <hateball> It's easy enough to grow the VMDK and then grow the filesystem anyhow
[07:52] <mykl> i'll do that in that case. so is it possible to increase the drive space without affecting the installation right?
[07:52] <mykl> i mean the OS itself
[07:52] <hateball> Yes
[07:53] <hateball> Shut down VM, grow disk, boot it up again, run resize2fs
[07:53] <hateball> Assuming you do an install with a single / on ext4
[07:53] <mykl> cool no worries. thank you so much for the help. apologies for making some noises here ahaha
[07:53] <mykl> ah yeah
[07:53] <hateball> If you add LVM or split partitions etc... there's more complexity
[07:53] <mykl> ill save those tips
[07:54] <mykl> so just stick with the default partitions from the wizard then?
[07:54] <mykl> rather than doing manual partition
[07:58] <hateball> Yes unless you have specific needs
[07:58] <hateball> And if you do, then you'd already know :)
[08:07] <mykl> cool no worries
[08:07] <mykl> thanks again @hateball
[09:40] <jati> hi, i would like to install plasma 5.9 in my kubuntu 16.04 LTS. what should I do?
[11:24] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:33] <jati> hi bro
 Good Day Everyone!
[17:21] <Lord_of_Life> Settings like taskbar position, widgets and backgrounds do not save. No restart or shutdown option. What do, what do?