[12:37] <uga> lewix, type "exit"
[12:37] <stdin> "logout", "exit" or Ctrl-D
[12:38] <lewix> I dit
[12:38] <lewix> uga, i wanna log out out of my session from the cmd line
[12:38] <uga> lewix, yes, exit should do
[12:38] <stdin> you mean KDE session?
[12:38] <lewix> uga, exit just close the cmd line
[12:38] <networkgamer> i got a gparted question:can i unmount the partition on a drive with linux installed,move it,and mount it again safely while in the linux installed on said drive?
[12:38] <lewix> stdin, exactly
[12:38] <uga> lol
[12:39] <uga> lewix, some dcop call to kdm possibly, but I can't tell right now
[12:39] <uga> I'd need to make this machine work and check dcop first ;)
[12:39] <lewix> stdin, as I said I have trouble with my GUI. it wouldn't let me turn off,restart or log out properly. It hangs out and the screen goes dark. the only way is from the cmd line
[12:40] <Minataku> I hope those fuses arrive tomorrow... I'd like to get that laptop back together before I completely forget how to put it back together
[12:40] <Minataku> lol
[12:40] <siliconcpu> could someone perhaps link me to a work solution with the bcm4318 broadcom cards?
[12:40] <stdin> !wifi
[12:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:40] <lewix> uga, thanks though.
[12:40] <uga> lewix, check dcop information in google
[12:40] <ardchoille> lewix: ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[12:40] <uga> lewix, you'll need to access kdm's dcop interface and call some logout method
[12:41] <uga> if you want to do taht from terminal
[12:41] <siliconcpu> ubutu - do u have a broadcom card?>
[12:41] <stdin> !bot
[12:41] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:41] <siliconcpu> =P
[12:41] <siliconcpu> bot is pretty useful :)
[12:42] <lewix> uga, easy to say :)
[12:43] <sportbilly> i want some help with kxdocker
[12:43] <siliconcpu> anyone familiar with ndiswrapper?
[12:43] <uga> lewix, run kdcop
[12:43] <eder> hi i have a problem whit the shap am 900 in kubunto
[12:44] <uga> lewix, you'll see all interfaces applications have
[12:44] <uga> one of them will belong to the kdm interface
[12:44] <hydrogen> kdm doesn't have a dcop interface
[12:44] <uga> hydrogen, doesn't it????
[12:44] <sportbilly> i found it on adept i have installed it and when i tried to open it through konsole but it crashes
[12:44] <hydrogen> no, it doesn't.
[12:44] <uga> hydrogen, what does have session logout interfaces then. kdesktop? I know I've seen them
[12:44] <uga> kicker maybe?
[12:45] <hydrogen> no idea
[12:45] <uga> uhm... I wish I could check right now, but dcop doesn't run very well under XP ;))
[12:45] <stdin> lewix: "dcop ksmserver ksmserver 0 0 0" will log you out
[12:45] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: i have a broadcom card.
[12:46] <scheater5> stdin: did some research on that TI chip Archos uses - "systems-on-chips (SoCs) tailored from DSP and ARM cores" - that mean anything to you?
[12:46] <siliconcpu> scorpking, got any advice?
[12:46] <lewix> uga, didnt find kdesktop
[12:46] <siliconcpu> cause I can't even get the ndiswrap to compile and install
[12:46] <lewix> stdin, thanks. how did you figure this out
[12:46] <siliconcpu> it gives me a bunch of errors and doesn't create the directories properly
[12:46] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: what's wrong? driver not loaded?
[12:46] <stdin> lewix: by looking at all the dcop commands and seeing what works :p
[12:46] <uga> lewix, well, iirc ksmserver is the process that starts kde at the end
[12:46] <siliconcpu> I think the biggest prob is the ndiswrapper.  I can't get the directions to follow through.
[12:47] <stdin> scheater5: i think that means it's some custom chip
[12:47] <siliconcpu> scorpking, hold on I will give you more details
[12:47] <lewix> no such function
[12:47] <stdin> siliconcpu: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty ?
[12:47] <scheater5> stdin: o joyous...so then any other OS would have to be ported to that specific chip?
[12:48] <stdin> scheater5: maybe, unless it works with some "generic" calls
[12:49] <stdin> lewix: in a term, what does "dcop ksmserver ksmserver" show (pastebin)
[12:49] <coreymon77> can anyone here give me some help with the netatalk (appletalk for linux) package?
[12:49] <stdin> lewix: or just tell me if you see "void logout(int,int,int)"
[12:49] <lewix> I see it, should I just call it stdin
[12:50] <siliconcpu> when I type "make distclean" I keep getting errors that say "loadndisdriver.c" errors
[12:50] <siliconcpu> anyone familiar with those?
[12:50] <lewix> stdin,where did you get the dcop command
[12:50] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: what does dmesg | tail say?
[12:50] <stdin> lewix: once you find out about dcop, you learn how to use it ;)
[12:51] <siliconcpu> ScorpKing - a lot of errors for bcm43xx
[12:51] <siliconcpu> not available or load failed
[12:51] <coreymon77> siliconcpu: what card?
[12:51] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: i had the same problem. just looking for the links. one sec...
[12:51] <siliconcpu> broadcom 4138
[12:51] <siliconcpu> *4318
[12:52] <stdin> lewix: "void logout(int,int,int)" means that it takes 3 arguments, all integers (whole numbers), so I tried "dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 0 0" on another account and it logged it out
[12:52] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
[12:52] <uga> stdin, but then you were missing the method name, right?
[12:52] <uga> "logout"
[12:52] <uga> not jsut 0 0 0
[12:52] <siliconcpu> is the support for ubuntu the same as kubuntu?
[12:52] <ScorpKing> yes
[12:53] <coreymon77> yes
[12:53] <siliconcpu> is it safe to say apt-get is useless without an internet connection?
[12:53] <stdin> uga: "dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 0 0"  < see the "logout" part?
[12:53] <coreymon77> ubuntu and kubuntu are the same except for their dekstop managers
[12:53] <coreymon77> siliconcpu: no
[12:53] <coreymon77> siliconcpu: there are cd repositories
[12:53] <uga> stdin, uh. that must be a new add-on ;)
[12:53] <siliconcpu> hmm
[12:53] <stdin> uga: ahh, the  1st time, yes
[12:54] <coreymon77> siliconcpu: but, whats the matter with your internet?
[12:54] <siliconcpu> coreymon - could i get stuff from the cd?
[12:54] <uga> stdin, I can't read much backlog, maybe I missed some comment. I'm running the desktop in minimal gfx mode ;)
[12:54] <siliconcpu> well, for some reason my ethernet card doesn't respond to a cable + active connection
[12:54] <siliconcpu> neither does the wireless
[12:54] <siliconcpu> so i've been trying to fix this issue, but it's hard if you aren't online to use sudi apt-get
[12:54] <siliconcpu> *sudo
[12:55] <coreymon77> siliconcpu: okay
[12:55] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: there is one package with the firmware. just download and install it.
[12:55] <coreymon77> lets figure this out
[12:56] <coreymon77> ah, i see, you are talking to us from ta windows box
[12:56] <siliconcpu> it would help if I could get the ethernet card to work with a wire first =P
[12:56] <siliconcpu> then I could run what I need
[12:56] <coreymon77> ScorpKing: he has no internet on linux
[12:56] <coreymon77> siliconcpu: that should be your priority
[12:56] <siliconcpu> nope, no internet on linux
[12:56] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: on that link look for "If that doesn't work, [WWW]  look here"
[12:56] <siliconcpu> i'm on a diff machine right now
[12:56] <siliconcpu> the laptop with kubuntu is next to me
[12:57] <uga> coreymon, you may try booting the linux drive from windows, through vmware? =)
[12:57] <uga> you'd have internet connection through vmware's fake card
[12:57] <coreymon77> wireless is much easier to get working if you have some sort of internet
[12:57] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: download package, burn to cd, copy to linux and install. done
[12:57] <lewix> stdin, uga : It worked. however, that wasn't the right thing to do...I guess KDE call the same function to log out of the session. That's why the same problem happened. It hangs out and the screen goes dark
[12:57] <coreymon77> uga: thats all well and good if you have a dual core
[12:57] <coreymon77> siliconcpu: do you?
[12:58] <uga> coreymon, uh? I've run vmware jsut fine on single core p4s with 512MB ram
[12:58] <siliconcpu> coreymon - i have a working internet
[12:58] <lewix> stdin, uga : I should rather focus on how to fix it
[12:58] <siliconcpu> on this windows machine :)
[12:58] <coreymon77> siliconcpu: i know
[12:58] <coreymon77> siliconcpu: but you dont on linux
[12:58] <siliconcpu> nope
[12:58] <lewix> stdin, By the way you didn't tell me how you got the commands
[12:59] <siliconcpu> wireless + ethernet = not working
[12:59] <uga> when it goes black... does still ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[12:59] <uga> or f2, f3...
[12:59] <siliconcpu> i might have to go in a sec
[12:59] <uga> if not, it may be a gfx card support issue
[12:59] <siliconcpu> the gf is giving me crap =(
[12:59] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: if you download a on windows file can you copy it to your linux box?
[12:59] <lewix> uga, please mention my screename otherwise I miss what you say. Well, I've never tried it
[01:00] <NickPresta> lewix, open up a terminal, type 'dcop' then press <ENTER>. You should see a list of applications. Type "dcop APPLICATION" and then press <ENTER>. Lather, rinse and repeat :)
[01:00] <lewix> uga, is it worth trying
[01:00] <siliconcpu> scorpking - yes
[01:00] <siliconcpu> scorpking - what command do I use to run the file?
[01:00] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: then do as i said and it will work
[01:00] <stdin> lewix: "dcop" lists all dcop enabled apps, "dcop <app>" lists all it's "members" "dcop <app> <member>" lists all it's commands and "dcop <app> <member> <command> [argument(s)] " runs the command
[01:00] <lewix> NickPresta, what is it for
[01:00] <uga> lewix, yes. If it switches to terminals, it means it's not locked
[01:00] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: sudo dpkg --install filename.deb
[01:00] <uga> lewix, so you could sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[01:01] <NickPresta> lewix, as far as I can tell, DCOP is a protocol that allows communication with applications registered to it (DCOP).
[01:01] <uga> lewix, what gfx card is it? nvidia?
[01:01] <stdin> lewix: you can use tab completion with dcop commands too :)
[01:02] <stdin> DCOP is like D-BUS, it's an 'inter-application communication protocol'
[01:02] <lewix> uga, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS400 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[01:02] <uga> NickPresta, it's a communication channel that lets processes communicate with each other. But having a client like dcop, allows the user to access them directly too
[01:02] <uga> NickPresta, similar to the old Corba, or DBUS
[01:02] <NickPresta> stdin, can you "force" applications to register with DCOP or do they have to "voluntarily" register?
[01:02] <lewix> stdin, what do you mean by tab completion
[01:02] <stdin> NickPresta: it has to be compiled with dcop support
[01:03] <uga> lewix, shame. If it were nvidia I'd have suggested you to install latest binaries from nvidia
[01:03] <NickPresta> stdin, ah okay.
[01:03] <lewix> uga, good idea, I'll try it the next time however, it will only solve my problem temporarly
[01:03] <stdin> lewix: type "dcop kdesk<tab>"
[01:03] <lewix> stdin, oh I see :)
[01:04] <stdin> NickPresta: and dcop is mostly a KDE think (tho kde4 will move to dbus)
[01:04] <stdin> s/think/thing/
[01:04] <uga> stdin,mostly? =)
[01:04] <uga> only
[01:04] <stdin> no, it donesn't have to be a "kde" app to use dcop
[01:04] <uga> stdin, shame of a move to d-bus, btw, since d-bus is more limited
[01:04] <uga> it's just like beta over vhs... we chose the worse one
[01:05] <stdin> well, it's not, but it is more complicated :p
[01:05] <uga> iirc I read about some limitations on d-bus
[01:05] <uga> things that were possible in dcop that weren't in d-bus
[01:05] <NickPresta> stdin, oh (about the move to DBUS). I always had this idea that DBUS was being phased out in terms of DCOP with KDE...
[01:06] <lewix> should I reinstall it?
[01:06] <lewix> KDE
[01:06] <stdin> uga: dbus has had some major development recently
[01:06] <uga> NickPresta, the problem is somebody had the "nice" idea of including d-bus in kernel. So even Trolltech decided to add d-bus support. And KDE decided to migrate
[01:06] <uga> stdin, oh nice
[01:07] <stdin> NickPresta: dbus is more platform independent (it even runs on windows) so it's replacing dcop
[01:07] <NickPresta> stdin, that makes sense.
[01:07] <stdin> shame, I do love dcop so :p
[01:07] <uga> stdin, it wasn't platform independent yet, when kde decided to migrate iirc
[01:08] <stdin> I can even run commands in konsole from another konsole session  :p
[01:08] <lewix> hm it's a pain in the ass sometimes :)
[01:08] <uga> but maybe I'm wrong on that
[01:08] <stdin> uga: no, but it interoperates with other DE's (no dcop server needed)
[01:08] <lewix> I can't watch videos either. soon or later it freezes and I have to exit the browser
[01:09] <lewix> and it wouldn't play over
[01:09] <NickPresta> lewix, I would assume you're talking about YouTube videos, which is a Flash problem
[01:09] <lewix> NickPresta, indeed. oh I didn't know that was current
[01:09] <lewix> s/current/common
[01:09] <wers> guys! I can't write on my flash drive on kubuntu but I can write on it on Windows
[01:09] <uga> stdin, other DEs like gnome? for which dbus was created? =)
[01:10] <uga> you'll always need some service running, I guess
[01:10] <uga> either dcop, or dbus
[01:10] <lewix> also, no matter how many times I mount my windows patition..it dismount itself. So I have to do it over everytime I log on
[01:11] <uga> oh nice... gutsy is arriving to my disk
[01:11] <stdin> uga: gnome, xfce, fluxbox, etc... while dbus was developed for use on gnome it doesn't really have anything to do with it (if that makes sense :P)
[01:11] <uga> stdin, same goes for dcop
[01:11] <uga> while dcop was created for use on kde doesn't have really anything to do with it
[01:11] <uga> ;))
[01:11] <stdin> uga: dbus is a system service anyway, not a user level service, it will always be running
[01:12] <ScorpKing> wers: i think you need to make a partition on it.
[01:12] <uga> stdin, system service,... you mean in-kernel thing?
[01:12] <Mr_Sonoma> wers, have you tried plugging in your flash drive after you have logged onto your kubuntu desktop?
[01:12] <uga> sure, it was adopted after gnome's adoption
[01:12] <uga> just like anything else could have been adopted
[01:12] <wers> I tried it Mr_Sonoma
[01:12] <stdin> uga: no, not in kernel. more like syslog
[01:12] <uga> uhm
[01:13] <wers> more details here ScorpKing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553813
[01:13] <Mr_Sonoma> wers, could you access the flash drive then?
[01:13] <wers> I can
[01:13] <wers> I can even open the files
[01:13] <wers> I just can't write on it using linux
[01:13] <Mr_Sonoma> hmmm
[01:14] <ScorpKing> wers: mmm, permission problem maybe...
[01:14] <uga> okay... lets hope winders is capable of burning kubuntu isos
[01:14] <wers> I tried opening it as root, but I still cant write on it ScorpKing
[01:15] <stdin> uga: http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Infra_Recorder :)
[01:15] <ScorpKing> wers: if you type mount, is it mounted rw?
it's mounted read-only</guess>
[01:15] <wers> how do I know if it is mounted as rw ScorpKing?
[01:15] <ScorpKing> wers: mount
[01:15] <stdin> uga: and http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Downloading_and_Burning_an_Ubuntu_ISO
[01:15] <uga> stdin, I got something called imgburn
[01:15] <uga> and seems to be working...
[01:16] <BluesKaj> uga, yes they use the same std
[01:16] <uga> next step rebooting and praying
[01:16] <wers> you mean, on the terminal?
[01:16] <stdin> uga: that's the one the 2nd link talks about
[01:16] <ScorpKing> wers: yes
[01:16] <uga> and if it doesn't, I'll only come back to say you "goodbye, gonna gentoo" ;))
[01:16] <stdin> uga: except you get to hear popey's voice in it :p
[01:16] <BluesKaj> and we'll say , have fun :)
[01:17] <uga> BluesKaj, it's so annoying that one needs to boot a live CD to install kubuntu, and seeing the live CD wont' completely boot
[01:17] <Mr_Sonoma> ScorpKing, wers i see several threads in online forums about troubles with fat32 formated flash drives
[01:17] <stdin> uga: there's always the alternate cd
[01:17] <BluesKaj> yeah, I experienced that with BSD
[01:17] <wers> mount: can't find /media/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:17] <vzduch> uga: you can always use the alternate CD
[01:17] <uga> vzduch, stdin, what does it exactly do? old style terminal mode installer?
[01:17] <ScorpKing> wers: looking at the link you posted it seems fine.
[01:17] <Mr_Sonoma> dunno if thats it but
[01:18] <stdin> uga: yeah, "text mode"
[01:18] <vzduch> uga: ncurses Debian-like installer
[01:18] <ScorpKing> maybe the ' in the mount point?
[01:18] <uga> oh nice... as far as it doesn't happen same as happenned to an old debian installer (couldnt' find cdrom ;))
[01:18] <uga> I tried several old distros and their live CDs
[01:18] <BluesKaj> never tried gentoo ...some ppl scared me away , cuz i feel i need more linux experience before i tackle it
[01:19] <wers> MR_Sonoma, I guess it really is because of the fat32 format because I have no problems with it on Windows
[01:19] <uga> BluesKaj, don't get scared. It's all documented. If you RTFM, it works
[01:19] <uga> if you don't, it doesn't ;))
[01:19] <uga> BluesKaj, even your mom could install it from scratch. Although, shame, I don't think now full scratch installs are supported
[01:19] <ScorpKing> Mr_Sonoma: and then there is 'FAT: Directory bread(block 514) failed' from his dmesg. :(
[01:20] <BluesKaj> err RTFM ?
[01:20] <vzduch> imho, Gentoo just isn't worth the effort.. you can get (almost) the same result w/ far less hassle :)
[01:20] <uga> BluesKaj, read the ... flowerish manual ;)
[01:20] <ScorpKing> wers: the mount options looks ok but i have no idea why you get that errors.
[01:20] <Mr_Sonoma> ScorpKing, did he post a link to a screenshot or pastebin i missed?
 more details here ScorpKing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553813
[01:21] <uga> BluesKaj, you'll notice that most bugs/problems around are all documented in gentoo wikis. Their strong point is documentation
[01:21] <vzduch> indeed
[01:21] <Mr_Sonoma> gotcha
[01:21] <uga> anyway, cya guys
[01:21] <BluesKaj> oh yeah uga, well i'm too busy with other stuff to get frustrated with another OS that doesn't recognize my haredware
[01:21] <ScorpKing> cheers
[01:22] <BluesKaj> c ya uga
[01:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> they have so many people doing documentation that they ran out of people to compile for packages >_>
[01:23] <BluesKaj> gonna reboot my router , i have a 3 sec lag
[01:25] <lewix> what's gksudo gedit
[01:25] <lewix> it does not even work but I always see it
[01:26] <ScorpKing> wers: what does ls -l /media/ALLAN'SDISK-1/ say?
[01:26] <stdin> lewix: gksudo is the gnome version of kdesu and gedit is the gnome version of kate
[01:27] <stdin> lewix: if you see it on the wiki, let me know. I've made it my lives mission to add kubuntu instructions to them :p
[01:28] <lewix> stdin, it's on the kubuntu feisty wiki. windows partition*
[01:28] <erich_> can anybody help me get my Netgear wireless adapter working?
[01:28] <stdin> lewix: link?
[01:28] <lewix> stdin, lol your life mission
[01:28] <lewix> stdin, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Mount_NTFS_Partitions
[01:29] <wers> ScorpKing, just ">"
[01:29] <stdin> hmm ubuntuguide, why not just read the ubuntu wiki ?
[01:29] <erich_> or at least help me figure out why gaim has no sound in kubuntu?
[01:30] <ScorpKing> wers: ls -al ?
[01:30] <stdin> wers: that's because of the '  use tab to complete the name, press Ctrl-C to get back to the prompt
[01:32] <wers> ls -al /media/ALLAN'SDISK-1/ also gave me ">"
[01:33] <stdin> yes that's because of the '  use tab to complete the name
[01:33] <wers> stdin, when do I press tab?
[01:33] <cloakable> Hi, I'm trying to install kubuntu 7.04, but partitioning fails. The disk is being picked up as an scsi disk, though it's an IDE one.
[01:33] <stdin> type "ls -l /media/AL" then press tab
[01:34] <Mr_Sonoma> wers, special caracters have to be escaped with \'\ type ls -al /media/all then hit the tab key and see what we mean. tab will complete the file name just as it completes the nicks on IRC.
[01:34] <stdin> cloakable: in feisty all disks are scsi emulated
[01:34] <bobbyyu> How can I set up a classpath for my JDK and JRE (/opt/jdk1.6.0_02/bin and /opt/jre1.6.0_2/bin respectively)?
[01:34] <cloakable> stdin: It's not creating any partitions, though.
[01:35] <wers> got it!
[01:35] <wers> I'll post the output in the thread
[01:35] <stdin> !java > bobbyyu | see the message from ubotu
[01:35] <stdin> cloakable: what happens when you try?
[01:36] <uga> bad luck guys, the gutsy CDs don't work either. Even worse, they don't even work in any vga= mode I tried
[01:36] <cloakable> stdin: It errors. I've tried with parted too, and that just silently fails.
[01:36] <cloakable> stdin: It's a thinkpad x24
[01:36] <stdin> what errors?
[01:38] <cloakable> stdin: Something like 'Cannot create ext3 partition.'
[01:38] <cloakable> just a sec
[01:38] <vzduch> cloakable: are you sure the hdd is ok?
[01:38] <wers> see the output here guys--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3387640#post3387640
[01:39] <cloakable> vzduch: It installs debian fine.
[01:39] <cloakable> therefore I assume so
[01:40] <Mr_Sonoma> i totally missed the ' in that.
[01:40] <vzduch> cloakable: you might want to go to the hdd manufacturer's website and download a checking tool
[01:41] <vzduch> most will come as a bootable floppy or CD image
[01:41] <cloakable> vzduch: Or I might as well reinstall Debian.
[01:42] <stdin> of it's already partitioned then just install without partitioning
[01:42] <cloakable> stdin: It isn't partitioned
[01:42] <Mr_Sonoma> out of curiosity what would happen if one installed say debian etch then used a source.list from a ubuntu fiesty or gutsy distro to upgrade??? would you end up with the fiesty or gutsy distro or a broken machine in need of a live cd?
[01:43] <vzduch> Mr_Sonoma: most probably the latter
[01:43] <Mr_Sonoma> lol what i figured
[01:44] <vzduch> I'm going to bed.. good night everyone :)
[01:46] <pedro> hi
[01:46] <erich_> can anybody try to help me get my netgear wireless adapter working in kubuntu?
[01:46] <ScorpKing> wers: sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /media/ALLAN\'SDISK-1/
[01:47] <ScorpKing> !paste | wers
[01:47] <ubotu> wers: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:50] <wers> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37853/
[01:50] <wers> there you go
[01:50] <ScorpKing> wers: and btw, you have a virus on that disk.
[01:51] <ScorpKing> :(
[01:51] <wers> how did you determine that, ScorpKing?
[01:51] <wers> you mean, a Windows virus?
[01:51] <ScorpKing> wers: that's my job. lol - RavMonE.exe
[01:52] <wers> ohhh
[01:52] <wers> haha
[01:52] <wers> can I just delete it?
[01:53] <ScorpKing> wers: yes but it will be all over your system. open AutoRun.inf and you'll see the command that load it everytime.
[01:53] <wers> okay.. so I'll just reformat this thing
[01:54] <wers> hmmm.. is there a way for me to copy the files inside it without copying the virus?
[01:54] <ScorpKing> wers: it won't infect linux
[01:54] <Mr_Sonoma> but it will be on the windows machine / partition
[01:55] <ScorpKing> wers: copy all the files and delete RavMonE.exe and AutoRun.inf when you copy it back.
[01:55] <wers> okay... I'll do that
[01:55] <wers> how do I reformat the thumb drive using linux?
[01:55] <ScorpKing> wers: use cfdisk to make a partition
[01:56] <Mr_Sonoma> im out, later
[01:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> i don't have the slightest clue what happened there...  i did an update that wanted a reboot, and now everything's gone to he**
[01:56] <ScorpKing> wers: then use mkfs.vfat to format it.
[01:56] <wers> will that partition be opened by windows as well?
[01:56] <ScorpKing> yes
[01:57] <ScorpKing> wers: is that disk /dev/sda?
[01:57] <wers> it is a /dev/sda1
[01:58] <ScorpKing> wers: then just copy everything to linux and run sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 when it's unmounted
[01:58] <wers> then it will reformat the drive?
[01:59] <ScorpKing> yes, no need to make a partition
[01:59] <stdin> you may want to use '-F 32' to make it a FAT32 partition (rather than FAT16)
[01:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> hopefully this next update fixes my display issues
[01:59] <wers> ok.. I will do that
[02:00] <ScorpKing> thanks stdin. :) didn't know that.
[02:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> (using gnome on the lappy): Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'.
[02:00] <wers> would you mind giving me the exact code that I should enter once I unmount it? I don't want to fail when it comes to this kind of thing
[02:00] <siliconcpu> ScorpKing - i am back =P
[02:00] <stdin> you can give it a name/label too, with '-n something' :p
[02:01] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: welcome back. :)
[02:01] <siliconcpu> thanks
[02:01] <siliconcpu> I'm going to download and try to install that package u told me to download
[02:01] <ScorpKing> stdin: will you help him with a full command?
[02:01] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: it worked for me. took 5 minutes. :P
[02:02] <stdin> "sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 -n "MYDISK" /dev/sda1"
[02:02] <ScorpKing> :D
[02:04] <siliconcpu> ScorpKing - so install this firmware and then try to use ndiswrapper?
[02:04] <siliconcpu> or will the firmware fix the problem?
[02:04] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: i don't even have ndiswrapper installed and it works
[02:04] <siliconcpu> wow
[02:05] <siliconcpu> so, just type "sudo dpkg --install filename.deb"
[02:05] <ScorpKing> yeah :P
[02:05] <siliconcpu> :)
[02:05] <siliconcpu> okay i'll give it a shot in a min
[02:06] <siliconcpu> lol
[02:06] <siliconcpu> <3 windows
[02:07] <stdin> !windows | siliconcpu
[02:07] <ubotu> siliconcpu: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:07] <ScorpKing> i've had it with M$
[02:07] <Lega> 'ello.
[02:07] <siliconcpu> lol
[02:07] <wers> if I want to format the drive as fat32, I will enter sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 -F 32... is that right?
[02:08] <siliconcpu> i'm struggling with getting kubuntu to work with my hardware, but I'll willing to make a change!
 "sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 -n "MYDISK" /dev/sda1"
[02:08] <uga> okay... other than a broken layouted kb, I managed starting up kubuntu right )(
[02:08] <stdin> wers: that's makes a FAT32 partition called "MYDISK" on /dev/sda1
[02:09] <uga> stdin: are you one of the kubuntu guys? I think this hint is important to note down... since not even gutsy seems to wr  otherwise
[02:09] <uga> work
[02:09] <wers> oh.. a partition? how about if I want to reformat the whole drive without separate partitions on it?
[02:09] <stdin> wers: 1 partition is the whole disk in your case
[02:10] <uga> any maintainers here?
[02:10] <ScorpKing> wers: keep it the way it is. less problems. :P
[02:10] <stdin> uga: if you found a bug, report it on launchpad
[02:10] <uga> stdin: no, I found a solution, took me some time googling, and works
[02:10] <stdin> uga: #kubuntu-devel is where the devs hang out ;)
[02:10] <uga> okay...
[02:10] <shadowhywind> Hi all, not sure where else to go. But having a small sound problem. When ever i try to play a game, with opengl. The sound *which i am asuming is using openal* is sort of jumpy. Any ideas?
[02:12] <siliconcpu> aye, I need to install VM Ware
[02:13] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: vmware is nice. :)
[02:13] <siliconcpu> yeah, I've heard =P  I have to reboot and boot into windows to copy that file to my drive
[02:13] <siliconcpu> cause I dont have internet access in kubuntu =(
[02:13] <stdin> virtualbox is nicer
[02:13] <siliconcpu> hopefully this will fix the issue.
[02:13] <ScorpKing> lol
[02:14] <Biovore> any ever messed with wubi?
[02:14] <nemisis> does anyone know how to configure KNetworkManager to automatically connect to my home network at startup?
[02:14] <ScorpKing> does anyone know how to get devilspie working under kde?
[02:15] <jhutchins> !info devlispie
[02:15] <ubotu> Package devlispie does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:15] <jhutchins> !find devilspie
[02:15] <ubotu> Found: devilspie
[02:15] <ScorpKing> jhutchins: all the howto's is for gnome. i can't seem to get it working though. :(
[02:16] <Biovore> nemisis: try netgo
[02:16] <Biovore> knetworkmanger sorta sucks..
[02:16] <jhutchins> ScorpKing: Not everything built for gnome works in kde.
[02:17] <ScorpKing> i know. was hoping there is a way.
[02:17] <nemisis> biovore: where can i get that and how do i replace KNetworkManager with it? or is it all handled by apt?
[02:17] <intelikey> someone tell me how to get my login name in my prompt please
[02:17] <Biovore> nemisis: well its a seperate little program
[02:17] <Biovore> apt-get it
[02:17] <Biovore> probably will have to mess with it.. I am not sure if it handles wep or not..
[02:18] <Biovore> but does provide network profiles
[02:18] <siliconcpu> ScorpKing - any additional steps after installing the firmwre?
[02:18] <judgen> is there a way to make a website that the kmplayer-plugin is windows media player?
[02:18] <siliconcpu> cause it said "settuping up <file name>" and hasn't done much, heh
[02:18] <hydrogen> intelikey: use \u in PS1
[02:18] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: not that i can remember.
[02:18] <siliconcpu> hmm
[02:19] <nemisis> biovore: but can it autoconnect without any user interaction?
[02:19] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: the card should show up in knetworkmanger now
[02:20] <intelikey> hydrogen doesn't work
[02:20] <intelikey> tty2 [I have no name!$~]  set | grep PS1
[02:20] <intelikey> PS1='\l [\u\$\w]  '
[02:20] <intelikey> tty2 [I have no name!$~]
[02:20] <jhutchins> judgen: Content on web sites is labeled by mime type.  Your system uses the mime type to determine what player to use.  to get mplayer to open a certain type of file, you have to make it the default player for that mime type.
[02:20] <hydrogen> intelikey: export PS1='\u' works
[02:20] <hydrogen> you may need some sort of escaping
[02:20] <intelikey> no
[02:21] <intelikey> hydrogen look at the post  ^
[02:21] <intelikey> i need to find what   \u   is reading from
[02:22] <hydrogen> `whoami` i'd assume
[02:22] <intelikey> tty2 [I have no name!$~]  whoami
[02:22] <intelikey> whoami: cannot find name for user ID 11
[02:22] <hydrogen> yep
[02:22] <hydrogen> that sounds weird
[02:22] <intelikey> ok found it.   can't read /etc/passwd
[02:23] <intelikey> that fixed it,   thanks.
[02:23] <hydrogen> nod
[02:24] <intelikey> just needed to find what   \u  was reading from.   knew all the vars were set correctly.
[02:25] <intelikey> so it uses something like     grep $UID /etc/passwd | cut -d':' -f1
[02:25] <intelikey> wonder why it doesn't just use   $NAME
[02:26] <intelikey> ah NAME is not read only   UID is   heh that's why
[02:27] <intelikey> tty2 [greg$~]  export UID=0
[02:27] <intelikey> .true: UID: readonly variable
[02:28] <siliconcpu> ScorpKing - hmm, not go on the internet =(
[02:28] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: is the card there?
[02:28] <siliconcpu> how can i tell?
[02:28] <siliconcpu> command?
[02:28] <intelikey> ifconfig ?
[02:29] <ScorpKing> yes ifconfig
[02:29] <ScorpKing> it should be eth1 i think
[02:29] <uga> stdin: matinainers are dead. Gutsy won't come out ;)
[02:29] <newbi> hii
[02:30] <intelikey> garfold
[02:30] <stdin> uga: most devs are in europe, and it's late here :p
[02:30] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: run sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[02:30] <uga> stdin: mmmmmmmmmmmmme too
[02:30] <newbi> lol what is garfold?
[02:30] <siliconcpu> ScorpKing - well, I see an inet address and bcas address for eth1
[02:31] <junkeR> can I get support for digikam here?
[02:31] <intelikey> newbi misspelling of your nick ???    just prior to  <newbi> hii
[02:31] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: it's 02:31 here so i should get to bed. it seems to be working. go back to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
[02:31] <newbi> intelikey: garfield
[02:32] <intelikey> o   ie
[02:32] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: it needs to be configured with your router.
[02:32] <siliconcpu> really?
[02:33] <siliconcpu> hmm
[02:33] <siliconcpu> which part should I jump to on that link?
[02:33] <siliconcpu> cause I'm pretty sure the firmware is installed.
[02:33] <intelikey> read it all and you wont need to "jump"
[02:33] <ScorpKing> siliconcpu: 1.3.3. Step 3: Connecting to your network
[02:34] <ScorpKing> lol
[02:34] <newbi> stdin: how do i use doscan?
[02:34] <siliconcpu> hmmm
[02:35] <siliconcpu> i cant use "network-manager"?
[02:35] <intelikey> have a hard drive that keeps resetting.   how to detect which drive it is ????    any ideas ?
[02:35] <ScorpKing> no idea. ask around. :P
[02:35] <siliconcpu> hehe, ok
[02:35] <ScorpKing> nite everyone!
[02:35] <siliconcpu> I appreciate the help
[02:35] <ScorpKing> np
[02:35] <intelikey> gooday ScorpKing
[02:35] <stdin> newbi: look at the man page "man doscan"         and ask the channel first
[02:35] <eduardounder> siliconcpu: isnt "knetworkmanager" ?
[02:36] <newbi> stdin: lol
[02:37] <stdin> newbi: no "lol" if you keep doing that I'll get annoyed
[02:37] <newbi> stdin: does man work for every programme i install?
[02:37] <stdin> most
[02:39] <intelikey> newbi most of them have either man or info pages   and those that done will normally have their own breed of online docs ".html or .xml"  in the /usr/share/docs/   you can find with something like    dpkg -L <packagename> | grep .html
[02:39] <intelikey> done != dont
[02:40] <intelikey> e = r-1   t = r+1    hmmm  typo makes sense on qwerty keyboard
[02:41] <intelikey> info info
[02:41] <intelikey> man man
[02:42] <intelikey> find /usr -iname *.html
[02:44] <intelikey> three help switches, one of which works with most commands     -h --help (and the non-posix) -help (which applies to most GUI apps)        also for the shell built-in's   help <command>
[02:45] <newbi> intelikey: how do i use doscan?i type doscan in a konsole it says:doscan: mandatory --port argument is missing
[02:46] <newbi> "man doscan is to much to read
[02:47] <siliconcpu> hmm, does anyone know how to get Network Manager back on the bottom right of the screen by the volume?
[02:47] <siliconcpu> it like... disappeared
[02:47] <newbi> stdin: same question ^^
[02:47] <Jucato> siliconcpu: run "knetworkmanager" ?
[02:47] <intelikey> and that leads me into this rant,   why is "-help"  non-posix?    because it precludes the use of multiple single char switches  -AaBb...   and tic's people that like posix off greatly.
[02:47] <stdin> newbi: too much to read? then don't use it.
[02:48] <newbi> o_O
[02:48] <intelikey> newbi if it says thet the required port argument is missing then add a port argument
[02:48] <intelikey> doscan 80
[02:48] <newbi> 80?
[02:48] <newbi> thats it?
[02:48] <intelikey> thhp
[02:48] <siliconcpu> Jucato - in the konsole, right?
[02:49] <intelikey> http
[02:49] <Jucato> siliconcpu: Alt+F2 would be better
[02:49] <newbi> ???
[02:49] <intelikey> 80 is the http standard
[02:49] <siliconcpu> could not run specified command
[02:49] <intelikey> if you are scanning your own box  try port 0
[02:50] <siliconcpu> "knetworkmanager" (no quotes)
[02:50] <siliconcpu> doesn't work in the run =(
[02:50] <Jucato> O.o
[02:50] <Jucato> ok try it in Konsole
[02:51] <siliconcpu> wtf
[02:51] <siliconcpu> "the program is not currently installed"
[02:51] <intelikey> that might do it...
[02:52] <siliconcpu> well, i can't install it using sudo apt-get
[02:52] <siliconcpu> it can't find it
[02:52] <siliconcpu> =/
[02:52] <intelikey> that might be why it
[02:52] <intelikey> s not installed
[02:52] <intelikey> !punctuation > intelikey
[02:52] <siliconcpu> ?
[02:53] <newbi> siliconcpu: is knetwork in the K-menu?
[02:53] <posingaspopular> hey all. i somehow broke my /etc/init files and now nothing i try to run works properly
[02:53] <intelikey> siliconcpu sources.list
[02:53] <posingaspopular> newbi: yea under 'internet'
[02:54] <siliconcpu> newbi - k-menu?  I'm new to kubuntu... you mean the menu on the bottom left?
[02:54] <newbi> posingaspopular: i ask siliconcpu not you
[02:54] <newbi> siliconcpu: yes
[02:54] <siliconcpu> yeah, I see internet
[02:54] <intelikey> posingaspopular ?   breaking /etc/inittab or /etc/init.d/*   should not keep other commands from working     can you explain what kind of errors you are seeing ?
[02:55] <siliconcpu> newbi - i have "internet" under the k-menu
[02:55] <siliconcpu> is there something i'm suppose to look for under there?
[02:55] <Jucato> siliconcpu: do you see KNetworkmanager in there?
[02:55] <newbi> siliconcpu: and u want knetwork dont by the volume right?
[02:55] <siliconcpu> nope
[02:55] <Jucato> ok very strange...
[02:55] <siliconcpu> nope
[02:55] <siliconcpu> neither
[02:55] <Jucato> what does "sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager" say?
[02:55] <siliconcpu> I saw it on the bottom right yesterday, but now it's gone!
[02:56] <siliconcpu> says done on a few things and then says "Package knetworkmanager is not available"
[02:56] <siliconcpu> E: Package knetworkmanager has no installation candidate
[02:56] <intelikey> siliconcpu sources.list
[02:57] <intelikey> main not in sources.list
[02:57] <Jucato> most probably
[02:57] <Jucato> or disabled...
[02:57] <siliconcpu> what does that mean?
[02:57] <Jucato> !pastebin
[02:57] <newbi> siliconcpu: right click your panel,add application to panel>internet>knetwork
[02:57] <intelikey> !info knetworkmanager
[02:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:57] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB
[02:57] <Jucato> siliconcpu: use that pastebin link to show your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:58] <intelikey> Jucato just a thought,  you better make sure that the lsb_release and the sources.list match too
[02:59] <siliconcpu> where can I paste?
[02:59] <Jucato> pastebin, look up for the link
[02:59] <Jucato> intelikey: you can ask him that too :)
[02:59] <intelikey> been seeing some mismatches there.   causes very strange apt errors.
[03:00] <intelikey> me hates to but in and take over....
[03:00] <intelikey> /
[03:00] <Jucato> butt it's ok :)
[03:02] <newbi> how do i stop amsn from steeling people picture?my friend want to kill me from steeling there girlfriend pictures :( amsn does it by it self
[03:02] <siliconcpu> aye, this is making it so much harder to paste with no internet =(
[03:02] <intelikey> no internet ?
[03:03] <intelikey> you do seem to be talking here...
[03:03] <newbi> siliconcpu: u dont have internet so how u get on konversation?
[03:03] <siliconcpu> well, no internet on the laptop with the kubuntu installed
[03:03] <intelikey> oh ok.
[03:03] <siliconcpu> and for some reason the USB feature dont work either
[03:03] <siliconcpu> so i can throw the file on a thumb drive
[03:03] <siliconcpu> *can't
[03:04] <newbi> intelikey: it happen to me once i couldnt surf or nothing just chat on konversation for the first time i instal linux.it took me 1 week to fint the problem
[03:04] <user704> hello
[03:04] <newbi> hello
[03:04] <intelikey> siliconcpu ok don't paste the whole file.   try this.    grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list     and show us the output of that
[03:07] <stdin2> hihihi
[03:07] <stdin> !nickspam | stdin2
[03:07] <ubotu> stdin2: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[03:07] <intelikey> it's garfold alright...
[03:07] <stdin2> o_O
[03:08] <Jucato> stdin2, xp_killer, newbi: please try not to get banned *again*
[03:08] <stdin2> lol
[03:08] <stdin2> i wont chaing it again
[03:08] <Jucato> better change it one last time
[03:08] <draik> Jucato: Hey there. How goes it?
[03:09] <Jucato> hi draik! :)
[03:09] <stdin2> lol
[03:09] <stdin2> Jucato: if i change again stdin might banned me :(
[03:10] <siliconcpu> is there anything specific that I should look for in the sources.list file?
[03:10] <stdin> right...
[03:10] <Jucato> ok... :)
[03:10] <BluesKaj> thx stdin , what aPITA
[03:10] <stdin> he can come back, just not as stdin2 :)
[03:11] <BluesKaj> no!
[03:11] <Jucato> stdin: didn't you just ban his domain too?
[03:11] <intelikey> siliconcpu yeah that main is in all three deb http:* 1) normal 2) updates 3) security
[03:11] <stdin> Jucato: i banned that nick@that-domain
[03:11] <Jucato> ah ok
[03:12] <draik> stdin sets a ban on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:12] <intelikey> siliconcpu also that the version   i.e.   feisty or gutsy  is the same in all lines  and that it matches the  lsb_release -a
[03:12] <stdin> see, it worked
[03:12] <Jucato> yep. there he is
[03:12] <garfield> lol very funny
[03:12] <BluesKaj> ban this one too<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:13] <Jucato> :/
[03:13] <stdin> garfield: you've been warned numerous times, watch it
[03:13] <draik> >|B^(
[03:13] <garfield> BluesKaj: what is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:14] <BluesKaj> <---old and grumpy ...can't take silly punky behaviour for very long
[03:14] <stdin> garfield: your username and hostname
[03:14] <garfield> and?
[03:14] <garfield> what was the point he showing it to me?
[03:14] <steven_> how do I make konqueror my defualt file manager?
[03:15] <Jucato> steven_: it's already the default. unless you're on gutsy?
[03:15] <xp_killer> steven_: it isnt your default?
[03:15] <steven_> Jucato: Using gutsy, and I'm looking a file associations
[03:15] <Jucato> steven_: inode/directory and inode/system_directory
[03:15] <BluesKaj> well BBL ...gonna take a break for a while
[03:15] <steven_> alright thanks
[03:15] <steven_> hm gutsy made it defualt now aswell! yay
[03:16] <steven_> I asumed it was not.
[03:16] <Jucato> (we'll see...)
[03:16] <Jucato> >:)
[03:16] <steven_> I don't get what is so great about dolphin
[03:16] <steven_> kinda is a step backward with kde
[03:16] <Jucato> on KDE 3? it isn't great at all imho
[03:16] <Jucato> but you should see the KDE 4 version. worlds apart
[03:16] <steven_> but its great in kde4
[03:16] <steven_> h
[03:16] <steven_> Well
[03:16] <draik> dolphin?
[03:16] <steven_> ill wait and see
[03:17] <steven_> yeah
[03:17] <Biovore> yeah.. kde3 version is lacking features
[03:17] <Jucato> besides, that dolphin in Gutsy isn't really dolphin ..
[03:17] <draik> What is dolphin?
[03:17] <Biovore> rgr
[03:17] <Jucato> it's d3lphin
[03:17] <Biovore> the new filemanger
[03:17] <Biovore> well not really all the new.. but kinda getting new light these days
[03:17] <steven_> Jucato: what is special about the kde4 version
[03:18] <Jucato> steven_: *lots*
[03:18] <steven_> ;o
[03:18] <siliconcpu> argh i wish there was a way I could paste this file =(
[03:18] <Jucato> did you know that development on the KDE 3 version stopped almost half a year ago?
[03:18] <siliconcpu> I can't get it off kubuntu and onto my other drive tho
[03:19] <kgx> !wengo
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wengo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <allengould> so, I'm a linux noob and need to install firefox.
[03:19] <draik> allengould: sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:19] <allengould> I have it downloaded and extracted, but don't know hat to do next
[03:19] <draik> Do that in a command line
[03:19] <Jucato> allengould: um.. K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs -> Firefox
[03:19] <allengould> oh....
[03:20] <steven_> draik: you beat me to it only because my keyboard was on the floor
[03:20] <Jucato> allengould: K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs -> search for Firefox, check it, Apply Changes
[03:20] <draik> steven_: yeah yeah yeah.....
[03:20] <steven_> draik: I got's homework
[03:20] <allengould> I guess I'm used to the old days when you had to terminal everything lol
[03:21] <draik> Jucato: Thanks for the laugh...
[03:21] <Jucato> allengould: you could also follow draik's instructions.
[03:21] <steven_> or you could compile firefox!
[03:21] <Jucato> O.o
[03:21] <siliconcpu> any way I can pop the installation cd in and reinstall knetworkmanager?
[03:21] <steven_> that's the most fun
[03:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> how did miniville end up in the topic?  is it hosted on ubuntu machines?
[03:22] <Jucato> siliconcpu: what is the output of "lsb_release -d" in that laptop?
[03:22] <steven_> or you could develop your own kernel with special compile flags made to make firefox faster when you compile it...
[03:22] <draik> I walk into a bathroom today and I thought I heard someone letting some rip badly. Kinda like a MACK truck going uphill at a 30 degree incline. Next thing I hear is "OH $H!T. I fell asleep"
[03:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> being that this is an english channel, why is the link to a french site?  enquiring minds want to know :)
[03:23] <siliconcpu> Jucato - ubuntu 7.04
[03:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> evening, jucato
[03:23] <Jucato> hi Daisuke_Laptop
[03:23] <steven_> Daisuke_Laptop: I didn't even notice :P
[03:24] <siliconcpu> Jucato - anything wrong with my version?
[03:24] <Jucato> siliconcpu: nope. hold on trying to figure out the easiest way to do this
[03:24] <siliconcpu> okay, thanks... I appreciate it
[03:24] <viktor_> i need help imediatly i installed kubuntu 7.04 mu cpu fan does not work my laptop overheads please help
[03:25] <siliconcpu> when I type in ... "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" it can find my router, so I hope this is a good sign for getting the wireless card to work =P
[03:25] <Jucato> siliconcpu: you just can't connect to the internet on your laptop? can you remember what happened or what you did before you lost knetworkmanager?
[03:26] <intelikey> viktor_ that's a good question.      "howto turn the cpu fan on?"
[03:26] <siliconcpu> well, first of all I have a broadcom 4318 wireless card and I wasn't able to connect to my network
[03:26] <siliconcpu> I have no idea what happened to knetworkmanager though.  I don't remember disablling anything
[03:26] <viktor_> intelikey: help please
[03:27] <intelikey> viktor_ wish i knew.
[03:27] <siliconcpu> Jucato - this is my first time installing kubuntu on this machine
[03:27] <intelikey> viktor_ i'll look on    google.com/linux  for that.
[03:27] <Jucato> oh... hm...
[03:27] <NickPresta> how can I make knetworkmanager remember my WPA key instead of having me type it everytime?
[03:27] <viktor_> intelikey: me too
[03:28] <Jucato> siliconcpu: first try in installing, wireless didn't work? but you were able to see the icon beside kmix in the panel?
[03:28] <siliconcpu> yes sir.
[03:28] <siliconcpu> but... it couldnt' find a wireless network
[03:28] <siliconcpu> it was pretty much useless, but now I need it =(
[03:29] <Jucato> hm... I'm guessing the installation didn't go so well in the first place, if knetworkmanager isn't there at all :(
[03:29] <siliconcpu> lol
[03:29] <siliconcpu> what's the easiest way to reinstall?
[03:29] <siliconcpu> pop the cd in and format the drive again?
[03:29] <Jucato> which CD installer did you use btw?
[03:29] <Jucato> Desktop CD? Alternate Install CD?
[03:30] <Jucato> (Live CD = Desktop CD)
[03:30] <siliconcpu> I think it's a desktop CD
[03:30] <siliconcpu> cause it's a live cd
[03:30] <Jucato> oh :(
[03:30] <allengould> ok, so I suck. when do I type sudo apt-get install firefox ?
[03:30] <siliconcpu> Jucato, nething wrong with that?
[03:30] <Jucato> allengould: yep
[03:30] <allengould> and I tried doing the add programs, but it is greyed out?
[03:30] <Jucato> siliconcpu: nothing really wrong. just thinking if reinstalling is really the answer :(
[03:30] <allengould> firefox is greyed out I mean
[03:31] <siliconcpu> well, when i initially installed I had knetworkmanager =P
[03:31] <siliconcpu> lol
[03:31] <Ahmuck> allengould: in the konsole
[03:31] <siliconcpu> i'm as confused as you!
[03:31] <Jucato> I can understand if it's disabled. but you say even if you type it in the command line it says "not installed"?
[03:32] <Ahmuck> Jucato: he has the icon, but no binary i bet
[03:32] <allengould> ahmuck: yeah, but when? do I need to be in a certain folder?
[03:32] <Ahmuck> allengould: nope
[03:32] <Jucato> Ahmuck: no icon either.. that was his original problem
[03:32] <Ahmuck> sudo aptitude install firefox
[03:32] <siliconcpu> lol
[03:32] <siliconcpu> Jucato - what can i type in the console to check again
[03:32] <siliconcpu> I shall do it
[03:32] <allengould> well, it's not working
[03:32] <Jucato> siliconcpu: "knetworkmanager"
[03:33] <siliconcpu> if it isn't there, i'm just going to try to reinstall and start from square 1
[03:33] <Ahmuck> allengould: live cd or installed to the hard drive?
[03:33] <allengould> installed
[03:33] <siliconcpu> lol!
[03:33] <siliconcpu> Jucato - I don't know where it went =(
[03:33] <Jucato> allengould: which version of Kubuntu are you running? Dapper? Edgy? Feisty?
[03:33] <Ahmuck> allengould: i would sudo aptitude install yakuake as well or first.  you will find it a real help
[03:33] <allengould> Feisty
[03:33] <Jucato> siliconcpu: definitely not in my pocket...
[03:33] <siliconcpu> Jucato - lol, got a command I can check for it?
[03:33] <siliconcpu> a search?
[03:33] <Jucato> allengould: hm.. the repositories should already be all enabled...
[03:34] <Jucato> siliconcpu: "knetworkmanager"
[03:34] <Jucato> that's the command
[03:34] <Ahmuck> Jucato: ah, yes, forgot about that
[03:34] <RurouniJones> If I remove firefox and reinstall via apt-get will I lose personal things like bookmarks?
[03:34] <Ahmuck> allengould: open up adept manager
[03:34] <Jucato> allengould: what does it say when you run "sudo apt-get install firefox" ?
[03:34] <Jucato> RurouniJones: no. apt-get doesn't touch your home files
[03:34] <Jucato> Ahmuck: don't. I'm about to go...
[03:34] <RurouniJones> Groovy, what about addons? They get removed?
[03:34] <allengould> just a sec guys.  I am pretty sure they are messing firefox up, hence the need to reinstall
[03:36] <Jucato> siliconcpu: good luck
[03:36] <allengould> it says package not available
[03:36] <Jucato> RurouniJones: wouldn't know.. I barely use firefox, and I don't use addons :)
[03:36] <Ahmuck> siliconcpu: you should not need to start over
[03:36] <Jucato> siliconcpu: see if Ahmuck has some ideas.
[03:36] <Jucato> 2 heads are better than one
[03:36] <Ahmuck> RurouniJones: the addon files get stored in /plugins
[03:36] <Ahmuck> i believe
[03:37] <RurouniJones> Found it in the .mozilla/firefox/extensions
[03:37] <draik> How can I get a DVD to go from 6.4 to 3.9GB
[03:37] <RurouniJones> I think
[03:37] <brad__> Any ideas as to how I can disable my touchpad on my laptop? I use an external mouse.
[03:37] <Ahmuck> RurouniJones: /.mozilla/firefox/default/extensions
[03:37] <Ahmuck> bleh, he beat me to it
[03:37] <allengould> jucato/ahmuck: it says package not available
[03:37] <Ahmuck> allengould: do you have adept manager open?
[03:38] <Ahmuck> K --> system --> adept manager
[03:38] <allengould> that the same as adept installer?
[03:38] <Jucato> nope
[03:38] <Ahmuck> :-p
[03:38] <allengould> lol thanks jucato
[03:38] <allengould> uh.... ok, just a sec lol
[03:38] <Jucato> Add/Remove Programs = Adept Installer
[03:38] <Ahmuck> allengould: u r on kubuntu correct?
[03:38] <Jucato> the other Adept..
[03:38] <allengould> duh. found it
[03:38] <Jucato> (gawd I hate those naming things!)
[03:38] <allengould> yeah, kiubuntu
[03:38] <makuseru> hi, i have a Mororola Razr phone, and when i plug it through USB into the computer the computer wont recognize and charge it like it will on a comp with Windows
[03:38] <Jucato> allengould: don't worry, you're not the first to be confused by the names
[03:38] <makuseru> is there somthing i need to do this?
[03:39] <Ahmuck> upper right, adept, manage repostiroeis
[03:39] <allengould> I'm in it now
[03:39] <Ahmuck> kubuntu software, and check them all
[03:39] <Jucato> Ahmuck: Feisty doesn't have the new Manage Repositories....
[03:40] <Ahmuck> ?
[03:40] <Ahmuck> hrm, i'm on gutsy
[03:40] <allengould> haha
[03:40] <Jucato> Feisty and Gutsy have completely different manage repositories
[03:40] <allengould> I was like wtf?
[03:40] <draik> makuseru: I don't know about mororola, but Motorola is a "not so good" brand for cell phones. They care less and less each day. I can, however, plugin my phone (T-Mobile Wing) and have it charge. I cannot access the phone as a drive, though.
[03:40] <NickPresta> !gutsy | Ahmuck
[03:40] <ubotu> Ahmuck: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:40] <NickPresta> crap. stupid autocompletion
[03:40] <NickPresta> i didnt mean to direct it to Ahmuck
[03:41] <NickPresta> although I thought that bit would have the link to Gutsy
[03:41] <Ahmuck> but, iirc, fiesty does have a repositiory manager from adept somewhere
[03:41] <Ahmuck> ?
[03:41] <Jucato> yes. but the layout is different
[03:41] <Jucato> Ahmuck, allengould: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:41] <Jucato> top half is Gutsy, lower half is Feisty and older
[03:42] <Ahmuck> i normally sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:42] <Jucato> hehehe
[03:42] <Jucato> sudo vim...
[03:42] <Jucato> allengould:  is this a very fresh install of Kubuntu?
[03:42] <allengould> yeah, a couple of hours lol
[03:42] <Ahmuck> allengould: ya, follow the link Jucato posted.  it has instructions
[03:43] <Jucato> allengould: ok, Adept menu -> Manage Repositories. you're in there now?
[03:43] <Ahmuck> i've always had to enable repositories to get firefox to download
[03:43] <Jucato> Ahmuck: since Feisty, all repos are enabled.. but I think the cdrom repo is getting in the way
[03:43] <Ahmuck> NickPresta: gutsty tribe 5 is what i am running, it works well.
[03:43] <allengould> I'm in adept manager?
[03:43] <Jucato> allengould: yep.
[03:44] <allengould> ok, now what?
[03:44] <Jucato> allengould: upper right, in the menu bar, there's the Adept menu. right? select Manage Repositories
[03:44] <allengould> k
[03:44] <siliconcpu> Jucato - i did see the knetworkmanager on the live desktop =P
[03:44] <Jucato> allengould: do you see a line there that begins with "cdrom" that isn't grayed out?
[03:44] <draik> Jucato: Remember yesterday's little problem with the laptop?
[03:45] <Jucato> draik: um.. sorry if I don't.. I was slightly sick yesterday
[03:45] <draik> Oh, sure.  I can be sick once in a while... :P
[03:45] <siliconcpu> jucato - we shall see =P
[03:46] <draik> Jucato: You said you were, then you said you weren't ... make up your mind, buddy!
[03:46] <siliconcpu> is there a way i can install it from the CD if it doesn't copy over?
[03:46] <Jucato> siliconcpu: don't think so...
[03:46] <allengould> ok.. I accidently hit fetch updates and it's downloading a bunch of stuff...
[03:46] <allengould> sorry.
[03:46] <siliconcpu> hmm
[03:46] <siliconcpu> could I try a redownload or something?
[03:46] <draik> siliconcpu: Great question. I've been wondering that for a while now, too.
[03:46] <Jucato> allengould: hm.. ok... wait for it to finish...
[03:46] <siliconcpu> I'm puzzled, lol
[03:47] <allengould> almost done
[03:47] <Jucato> draik: I had the flu since sunday. yesterday the flu was replaced by the migraine...
[03:47] <siliconcpu> eeek
[03:47] <allengould> brb afk a sec
[03:47] <Jucato> of course your yesterday and my yesterday don't exactly match, do they
[03:47] <draik> I wish I could get your migranes. I can't even look at a 1W bulb. Heck, an LED kills me
[03:47] <XsteelWolf> Anyone knows how how to configure wireless on Knetwork Manager? After i connect to a network that it appears on the list,no popup for me to keyin wpa-psk key, and it always hang at 28% and then knetwork manager will just crash
[03:47] <siliconcpu> rofl
[03:48] <siliconcpu> "omg a lightning bug! KILL IT!"
[03:48] <NickPresta> I was reading the Tribe 5 wiki page and apparently kdesudo replaces kdesu in Gusty. Will there be a symlink so anything written to use kdesu will still work?
[03:48] <Jucato> NickPresta: that's the way it works
[03:48] <Ahmuck> XsteelWolf: manual configuration
[03:48] <NickPresta> Jucato, okay, neat
[03:48] <Jucato> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-09-19 08:09 /usr/bin/kdesu -> kdesudo
[03:48] <XsteelWolf> ahmuck,how do i do that
[03:49] <siliconcpu> lol
[03:49] <XsteelWolf> what do i do at /etc/network/interfaces
[03:49] <Jucato> XsteelWolf: I think what Ahmuck meant was to right-click on the knetworkmanager icon and select Manual Configuration
[03:49] <siliconcpu> Jucato - if this installation doesn't install knetworkmanager, should I just redownload the install or something?
[03:49] <allengould> ok, back. the only thing I can find is under third party software it says add CD rom. so no
[03:50] <XsteelWolf> Jucato,i did that,still getting 28% or either the whole knetwork manager will just crash,after it's crash,no wirelessnetwork will be detected
[03:50] <Jucato> allengould: er.. you have a third party software tab? O.o
[03:50] <Jucato> XsteelWolf: oh.. wait for Ahmuck then :)
[03:50] <allengould> I clicked on adept then clicked on manage repositories...
[03:50] <Jucato> lol my apologies Ahmuck and allengould
[03:51] <allengould> lmao
[03:51] <allengould> not as confused as I am
[03:51] <Jucato> hold on a sec
[03:51] <Jucato> Ahmuck: my bad. the new Manage Repos has been in feisty too... sorry :)
[03:51] <Ahmuck> allengould: do a print screen of what you have and  post it
[03:52] <allengould> hehe... I'm not on that computer.
[03:52] <Jucato> allengould: in the Third Party Software tab, there are no cdrom lines there with checkboxes?
[03:52] <Ahmuck> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu have you followed this?  does it look the same?
[03:53] <Jucato> bah! I'm leaving it to Ahmuck... too many cooks have spoiled the dish... :(
[03:53] <Jucato> really sorry
[03:53] <Ahmuck> heh ... but your better than i am Jucato
[03:53] <Jucato> not this time apparently heheh
[03:53] <Jucato> anyway I should be doing something...
[03:54] <allengould> ok, I see that the screenshot on the site shows unsupported updates selected. should I select that?
[03:54] <Ahmuck> yes
[03:54] <XsteelWolf> Ahmuck,you got the manual configuration yet?
[03:54] <Ahmuck> unsupported and recommended
[03:54] <Ahmuck> XsteelWolf: nope
[03:54] <siliconcpu> nooo Jucato dont leave
[03:54] <siliconcpu> you're my good luck
[03:54] <Ahmuck> sorry, one thing at a time
[03:54] <allengould> ok it's downloading stuf
[03:54] <allengould> *stuff
[03:55] <Ahmuck> kewl
[03:55] <Ahmuck> when it's done you should be able to type in the search box firefox
[03:55] <Ahmuck> allengould: you chose recommended updates as well i hope
[03:56] <allengould> ok, it pulled up all the firefox stuff
[03:56] <allengould> yeah
[03:56] <Ahmuck> great.  so what you need now is firefox, then you can type in the search box yakuake, etc.
[03:57] <Ahmuck> you can install multiple programs in one shot
[03:57] <Ahmuck> i would install yakuake, as i think it will save you time
[03:57] <XsteelWolf> let me know when you get the manual config ahmuck,thanks
[03:57] <Ahmuck> XsteelWolf: sure thing
[03:57] <allengould> stupid question alert: add yakuake after 'firefox' in the search?
[03:58] <Ahmuck> allengould: you will find if you know the package name, it is easier just to F12, open yakuake, and then "sudo aptitude install program_name"
[03:58] <allengould> ok
[03:58] <Ahmuck> allengould: no, just type it in new
[03:58] <Ahmuck> replace firefox
[03:58] <Ahmuck> er, in the search parameter
[03:58] <Ahmuck> er, my spelling is getting bad
[03:59] <siliconcpu> you guys ever see that show "big brother" it's the stupidest show EVER!
[03:59] <intelikey> !info yakuake
[03:59] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[03:59] <allengould> when I do that it gets rid of all the firefox stuff
[04:00] <BluesKaj> siliconcpu, wife says it's fixed
[04:00] <siliconcpu> BluesKaj - don't watch it! it's horrible
[04:00] <Ahmuck> allengould: yes, but you clicked firefox and did a "request install" correct?
[04:01] <siliconcpu> my gf watches it and i hate it
[04:01] <allengould> uh.... heh... maybe...
[04:01] <allengould> or not
[04:01] <Ahmuck> well, when you do, it will say "install" to the left, then you can add the next package
[04:01] <allengould> ok, clicked request install on both. now what?
[04:02] <BluesKaj> I don't watch it , siliconcpu ...don't watch any of those un-"reality" shows
[04:03] <Ahmuck> click the button on top that says "apply changes"
[04:03] <draik> HPdvd640
[04:03] <allengould> k
[04:03] <draik> Any known issues?
[04:03] <allengould> downloading stuff
[04:03] <draik> My friend's desktop has the HP Lightscribe DVD burner
[04:04] <Ahmuck> XsteelWolf: k, manual configuration i need to enter my ESSID
[04:04] <XsteelWolf> can you paste me out a sample?
[04:04] <Ahmuck> so i am DHCP, but using a ESSID
[04:04] <draik> It can read a DVD and play for a while, but when it comes to burning, it will crap out automatically.
[04:04] <BluesKaj> draik, so is mine , it works just fine
[04:04] <Ahmuck> in my case because my ESSID or SSID is hidden
[04:04] <siliconcpu> Jucato - u still there?
[04:04] <draik> All other DVDs will play/read for a while and then die
[04:04] <draik> BluesKaj: Any necessary drivers?
[04:04] <Ahmuck> allengould: so what do you like to do on a computer - software program wise?
[04:04] <Jucato> siliconcpu: now that you called me, yes....
[04:05] <BluesKaj> mine's the 740 , draik
[04:05] <siliconcpu> lol
[04:05] <draik> Any major diff from 740 to 640? Can you write on the DVD as intended (lightscribe)?
[04:05] <makuseru> does anyone have any experiance with morotola phones and linux?
[04:05] <siliconcpu> Jucato - it's there@@
[04:05] <siliconcpu> !!!
[04:05] <Ahmuck> XsteelWolf: heh, forget the manual
[04:05] <siliconcpu> !!
[04:05] <BluesKaj> no drivers required , works right out of the box
[04:05] <Jucato> siliconcpu: !!
[04:05] <XsteelWolf> why?
[04:05] <Jucato> siliconcpu: so it's ok now?
[04:05] <Ahmuck> there is an option for "configure other wireless network"
[04:06] <siliconcpu> well, let me try this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty for instructions
[04:06] <Ahmuck> enter in the ESSID and then you have an option for usign WPA, etc.
[04:06] <BluesKaj> draik, i haven't bothered trying the lightscribe
[04:06] <draik> BluesKaj: Do you know if it works?
[04:06] <compilerwriter> ok gentlemen I have been trying out differen DE's and somehow some of my settings for kde got botched.  I have some really funky background settings goin on now.  How do I get them back?
[04:06] <BluesKaj> dunno
[04:06] <Ahmuck> allengould: so, you like graphics, music, movies, programming?
[04:07] <XsteelWolf> I did that option.
[04:07] <draik> BluesKaj: What media do you use, brand-wise?
[04:07] <XsteelWolf> it doesn't connect
[04:07] <Ahmuck> i can point you to some great applications
[04:07] <XsteelWolf> all i got to was only 28%,stuck,and knetwork manager crash
[04:07] <Ahmuck> XsteelWolf: your own router or some inet cafe?
[04:07] <XsteelWolf> my own
[04:07] <BluesKaj> fuji, memorex, sony verbatim
[04:07] <Ahmuck> XsteelWolf: you don't have mac filtering on your router enabled do you?
[04:08] <XsteelWolf> nope
[04:08] <XsteelWolf> im able to connect through vista on same laptop
[04:08] <XsteelWolf> just not knetwork manager
[04:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> your wireless card isn't listed in /etc/network/interfaces is it?
[04:08] <Ahmuck> the knetworkmanager has crashed?  you'll need to restart it i suspect.  i am in unkown territory now
[04:09] <Ahmuck> has your wireless worked in an open system?
[04:09] <michaelpo> how do i get options globetrotter 3g card working? i've installed gcom.. then i run the command at terminal: gcom -d /dev/noz0... it seems i'm connected to the 3g... but... how do i get ubuntu to connect through the 3g card? how do i setup at the -> system -> network?
[04:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh...  is it wep?
[04:09] <michaelpo> SIM ready
[04:09] <michaelpo> Waiting for Registration..(120 sec max)
[04:09] <michaelpo> Registered on Home network: "MY MAXIS",2
[04:09] <michaelpo> Signal Quality: 20,99
[04:09] <draik> BluesKaj: He's using Maxell. Any issues with this brand?
[04:09] <allengould> I rarely use irc. you get my replies ahmuck?
[04:09] <Ahmuck> nope.
[04:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> try wep 64-bit hex
[04:09] <allengould> hmm.
[04:09] <BluesKaj> none that I'm aware of , draik
[04:09] <allengould> how do you whisper to someone?
[04:10] <XsteelWolf> im on wpa-psk
[04:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> media brand means very little next to media manufacturer
[04:10] <Ahmuck>  /msg
[04:10] <allengould> haha
[04:10] <draik> I'm trying to narrow down to one issue or something that will tell me "THIS IS THE PROBLEM!!!"
[04:11] <FIRESIDE91> What's the hammer for?
[04:11] <Ahmuck> THIS IS YOUR SOLUTION :-)
[04:11] <draik> WITHOUT creating a new issue
[04:11] <allengould> you get that response ahmuck?
[04:11] <FIRESIDE91> What are we breaking up?
[04:11] <draik> FIRESIDE91: Same friend. His HPDVD640 drive won't burn or read DVDs before dying.
[04:11] <BluesKaj> lightscribe not working draik ?...that's not surprising most of the lightscribe software is buggy from what I've heard.
[04:11] <draik> I don't know if he's even tried it when he had winxp
[04:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> that 640i is perhaps the biggest piece of crap i ever owned
[04:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> it lasted a couple months
[04:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> did a couple lightscribe burns
[04:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> and the whole thing went all wahoonie-shaped
[04:12] <Ahmuck> allengould: nope
[04:13] <BluesKaj> lightscribe isn't ready for primetime , methinks
[04:13] <draik> I never cared for it
[04:13] <FIRESIDE91> Big business loves to push out alpha technologies just to make more $$$
[04:13] <allengould> did you get my response to your message ahmuck? lol
[04:14] <draik> My friend keeps insisting that it's got something to do with drivers. I don't, but I thought I'd humor him
[04:14] <BluesKaj> dvd burners are cheap anyway
[04:14] <FIRESIDE91> LiteOn DVD drives and NEC DVD drives are the best
[04:15] <draik> I have a Memorex CD Burner with DVD read and a Memorex DVD DL Burner
[04:15] <Ahmuck> allengould: nope
[04:15] <FIRESIDE91> I have some random DVD drive (READ-ONLY) and a KHypermedia CD-RW in my system....really old drives (98 era)
[04:16] <allengould> eh, well. ok ahmuck, they were installed. now how do I access firefox?
[04:17] <Ahmuck> K --> Internet --> Firefox
[04:17] <BluesKaj> the HP 740b is still working just fine after 18mos
[04:17] <allengould> cool, got it
[04:17] <Ahmuck> np
[04:17] <allengould> not registered btw
[04:18] <Ahmuck>  /msg nickserv register
[04:18] <chris_> how do i change the resolution higher than 640 x 480 if thats as high as it shows in system settings
[04:18] <draik> Sorry, minor hiccup there
[04:18] <draik> Had to reboot
[04:18] <Ahmuck> allengould: /join #somechannel
[04:19] <draik> 740b? Is that the following model?
[04:19] <BluesKaj> dunno
[04:20] <chris_> how do i change the resolution higher than 640 x 480 if thats as high as it shows in system settings, i can barely see windows because it fills more than the full screen
[04:20] <BluesKaj> draik, it came with the compaq presario SR1734X pc ...to me one dvd burner is pretty much the same as any other
[04:21] <Ahmuck> chris_: K --> system settings --> monitor and display
[04:21] <draik> BluesKaj: He added his to the pos Dell he purchased through his job
[04:21] <chris_> i know that
[04:21] <chris_> but i cant get any higher than 640 x 480
[04:22] <Mr_Sonoma> chris_, what video card do you have?
[04:22] <BluesKaj> draik, will it burn anything ?
[04:22] <Ahmuck> is your hardware set right?
[04:22] <draik> Nope
[04:22] <chris_> 1 sec, well anyways i could go to a higher res in xp..
[04:22] <lewix> damn
[04:22] <draik> If you put a DVD movie in, it will show about 5 mintues tops
[04:22] <lewix> I hate xchat
[04:23] <FIRESIDE91> So do I now
[04:23] <draik> Blank DVD... k3b sees it for a split second and then it's gone. k3b won't even see the drive in the settings
[04:23] <draik> Once it dies, it keep the DVD inside
[04:23] <BluesKaj> lewix, konversation !
[04:23] <lewix> it doesnt log long conversation on the channel
[04:23] <FIRESIDE91> chris_ : What res could you it in XP?
[04:23] <lewix> i mean the channel window
[04:23] <FIRESIDE91> lewix: You can make xchat do logging
[04:23] <lewix> FIRESIDE91, i know but i would like to see it when i scroll up
[04:24] <chris_> um, like 1200 x 700 around there i think
[04:24] <FIRESIDE91> oooo
[04:24] <Mr_Sonoma> you can increase the buffer i believe in xchat
[04:24] <FIRESIDE91> chris_: widescreen?
[04:24] <chris_> ya
[04:24] <FIRESIDE91> How big is the monitor?
[04:24] <lewix> 17inch
[04:24] <chris_> just like 15 inch, hd monitor
[04:25] <FIRESIDE91> ahh
[04:25] <FIRESIDE91> hold on sec
[04:25] <chris_> kk ty
[04:25] <draik> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    ?
[04:25] <FIRESIDE91> chris: are you sure the resolution wasn't 1440x900 ?
[04:26] <chris_> ya im pretty sure
[04:26] <FIRESIDE91> Do you have a XP partition you can boot into?
[04:27] <chris_> i just deleted it, i was gona make one but i havnt had time yet just got this distro
[04:27] <draik> What is the Linux equivalent of m$ money?
[04:27] <Ahmuck> draik: you can't "eject"
[04:27] <FIRESIDE91> draik: Gnucash
[04:27] <Ahmuck>  draik, kymymoney
[04:27] <chris_> should i look online for my video cards drivers?
[04:27] <lewix> L$ money
[04:27] <FIRESIDE91> chris: well. use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:27] <Ahmuck> homebank?
[04:28] <chris_> ok
[04:28] <panpillowts> sob, someone claimed my nick
[04:28] <panpillowts> how dare they
[04:28] <panpillowts> i am the only pillowpants
[04:28] <FIRESIDE91> uhmm... /nickserv?
[04:29] <silicon2k7> kubuntu works with my ethernet but not wireless, hmmm
[04:29] <silicon2k7> does kubuntu work better with WEP or WPA?
[04:29] <junkeR> hello can someone help me w/ partioning a drive?
[04:29] <lewix> why do u use pillows as pants
[04:29] <lewix> panpillowts,
[04:29] <lewix> junkeR, knoppix
[04:29] <panpillowts> lewix: if you havent seen clerks, i wont explain
[04:29] <Ahmuck> junkeR: what do you need?
[04:29] <junkeR> I installed kubuntu using the entire harddrive, but I would like to resize it and make a ntfs partition of like 5 gigs
[04:30] <draik> junkeR: QTparted
[04:30] <Ahmuck> or gparted
[04:30] <draik> 5 gigs?
[04:30] <panpillowts> how might i get a divx plugin to work for my feisty amd64 browser?
[04:30] <draik> That's hardly enough for an NTFS-compatible OS
[04:30] <lewix> make the linux partition 5go
[04:30] <junkeR> well... I basically want to play starcraft
[04:31] <junkeR> and wine didn't run it all that well IIRC
[04:31] <lewix> i dont use linux for multimedia so I dont need that much space
[04:31] <junkeR> I want battle.net support to play online
[04:31] <FIRESIDE91> panpillowts: Uhm.....sudo apt-get install libxine0-ffmpeg ?
[04:31] <BluesKaj> panpillowts, ffmpeg
[04:31] <panpillowts> FIRESIDE91: ill search for it
[04:31] <FIRESIDE91> lewix: multimedia?  That takes more space than starcraft, besides, I though starcraft ran under WINE?
[04:31] <draik> junkeR: Have you tried Cedega?
[04:31] <silicon2k7> Jucato: u there?
[04:32] <junkeR> yea but that costs money!
[04:32] <lewix> FIRESIDE91, i didnt get you
[04:32] <FIRESIDE91> WINE (READ: FREE) runs starcraft
[04:32] <chris_> just make a windows parition
[04:32] <FIRESIDE91> lewix: sudo apt-get install wine .......
[04:32] <BluesKaj> gamrez , buy a Wii or PS or....
[04:33] <draik> FIRESIDE91: You're right. I think it runs really easy under WINE
[04:33] <panpillowts> junkeR: i nabbed a pirated cedega over bit torrent easy, one doesnt have to pay if one does not want to
[04:33] <panpillowts> just to let you know
[04:33] <junkeR> I did that too...
[04:33] <junkeR> but it was an older version
[04:33] <junkeR> can cedega run starcraft flawless w/ battle.net support?
[04:33] <FIRESIDE91> panpillowts: You know this channel is logged?
[04:34] <_pillowpants> junkeR: i had it working once
[04:34] <_pillowpants> bnet gives everything trouble though
[04:34] <FIRESIDE91> junkeR: WINE, without the cedega patches, runs starcraft just fine...
[04:34] <draik> _pillowpants: So, I see you like to be your own undertaker
[04:34] <_pillowpants> FIRESIDE91: depends, it runs a little laggy on my system
[04:34] <junkeR> well a little lag is always fine.. but.
[04:34] <draik> _pillowpants: Depends on your specs, then.
[04:34] <FIRESIDE91> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=149
[04:34] <junkeR> I'll try wine I guess
[04:34] <intelikey> and what an undertaking it is...
[04:34] <_pillowpants> junkeR: youll probably have no trouble with wine
[04:35] <draik> junkeR: Go to the link FIRESIDE91 has provided you
[04:35] <Jucato> silicon2k7: sorry just got back
[04:35] <BluesKaj> bah , play it in windows ...just setup a ntfs partition
[04:35] <intelikey> thoughts on  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39605 ?
[04:35] <junkeR> so the only thing that doesn't work is UDP netplay?
[04:35] <junkeR> oh wait.  I also want to play simcity 2000 as well!!
[04:36] <FIRESIDE91> simcity 2000 should run as well...
[04:36] <junkeR> that didn't run too good on Wine.. no music or SFX at all
[04:36] <junkeR> but I miss the awesome music, etc.
[04:36] <FIRESIDE91> simcity 2000 is old anyways...
[04:37] <intelikey> yeah ancient
[04:37] <FIRESIDE91> though that means it should run...annoying
[04:37] <intelikey> eight years !    no one in their right mind would ever run any code that old ....

[04:38] <FIRESIDE91> junkeR: Try out Lincity-NG
[04:38] <BluesKaj> hey intelikey , i know some ppl who still run W98 and won't change :)
[04:38] <_pillowpants> intelikey: starcraft is older than that
[04:39] <Mr_Sonoma> lol intelikey ...... i wont mention any DOS 3.x systems running around my house then *grin*
[04:39] <FIRESIDE91> O.o Mr_Sonoma
[04:39] <intelikey> no one reads html anymore ???
[04:39] <FIRESIDE91> I read HTML....do you intelikey?
[04:40] <_pillowpants> Mr_Sonoma: you actually have dos systems running at your house? what do you use them for?
[04:40] <draik> I deal with HTML all day
[04:40] <intelikey> guess not... FIRESIDE91 </rant_on_ancent code>
[04:41] <draik> What is simcity anyway? I played the Sims with the expansion, but that's as far as that went
[04:41] <Mr_Sonoma> DOS system running MFJcom (a ham radio Terminal Node Controller software) on a Tandy 1000RL
[04:41] <Mr_Sonoma> with the color CGA monitor
[04:41] <FIRESIDE91> O.o
[04:41] <BluesKaj> hey ,ancient codes wrote the bible :)
[04:41] <draik> BluesKaj: LOL
[04:41] <FIRESIDE91> I wish I still had that old NeXTCube....
[04:41] <_pillowpants> Mr_Sonoma: nifty
[04:42] <draik> Which one of the many?
[04:42] <Mr_Sonoma> it does the job nicely for 1200 bps signals
[04:42] <FIRESIDE91> BluesKaj: But no one cares about the bible anywhere
[04:42] <FIRESIDE91> The correct joke: But...but....ancient codes wrote ENIAC!
[04:43] <intelikey> :)
[04:43] <draik> <Homer - Simpsons Movie> This book doesn't have any answers </Homer - Simpsons Movie>
[04:43] <evan_> is it possiable to hide the bar at the very top of konsole, the bar w/ the close, minimize... buttons? i read the man pages but saw nothing relating to that
[04:44] <junkeR> alright, I downloaded QTParted but I am unable to change the partition sizes
[04:44] <chris_> evan_: fullscreen
[04:44] <draik> junkeR: Once you downloaded QTparted, did you run it?
[04:44] <FIRESIDE91> junkeR: What did you format your partition as?
[04:44] <evan_> chris: ok thats what i want, just not fullscreen
[04:44] <draik> It's not going to partition itself
[04:45] <BluesKaj> FIRESIDE91, oh you speak for ppl everywhere ?
[04:45] <Mr_Sonoma> evan_, you could go to a tty login by hitting cntrl + alt + F1 but remember you have to hit cntrl + alt + F7 to get back to the gui
[04:45] <chris_> evan_:  ok then i dont know how for sure
[04:45] <FIRESIDE91> Yes it is draik, computers are magic
[04:45] <evan_> chris_:thanks
[04:45] <junkeR> alright it's a 40 GB drive.  36 is EXT3 and 1.5 linux swap
[04:45] <draik> My common response to our members "It's internet magic. We control the internet fairies"
[04:45] <junkeR> I want to take 5 GB from the ext3 and make it NTFS
[04:46] <junkeR> I am running qtparted 0.4.5 right now
[04:46] <evan_> Mr_Sonoma: thats not quite what i want either, thanks tho
[04:46] <draik> junkeR: How big is your HDD. I'd go 10GB for the sake of having that necessary space
[04:46] <chris_> ooo
[04:46] <chris_> evan_:  click on to left icon and go to no border
[04:46] <_pillowpants> yeah, im actually looking to repartition a big fat32 section, which program would i use?
[04:47] <junkeR> I guess I can always just reinstall kubuntu using the correct partition sizes.... but that'd take a couple hours of my time
[04:47] <lewix> i need a shell
[04:47] <junkeR> the hard drive is 40 gb total
[04:47] <draik> lewix: Snail? Turtle? Crab?
[04:47] <chris_> evan_: top left icon, advanced, no border]
[04:47] <lewix> does someone have a server and is willing to give mme a shell lol
[04:48] <lewix> draik, what's that
[04:48] <draik> junkeR: You can have 10 to ntfs and the rest to ext3
[04:48] <draik> lewix: shells
[04:48] <junkeR> yea that sounds good. but the program is not allowing me to resize the ext3 partition
[04:48] <lewix> draik, it does not really matter. I just want to exercise
[04:48] <junkeR> the status of the drive is 'busy'
[04:48] <steven_> eh
[04:48] <lewix> with remote shells
[04:49] <steven_> when I run compiz fusion I dont get the little window things where I can drag around
[04:49] <draik> Wait...
[04:49] <draik> You can't run QTParted on a live partition. Can you? I think you're better off using the LiveCD for QTParted while leaving your Kubuntu partition alone.
[04:50] <junkeR> oh okay.. so boot up a live cd, install qtparted then I can resize?
[04:50] <draik> No need to install QTParted, it's on the LiveCD
[04:50] <draik> Yes
[04:50] <junkeR> I figured I'd have to do a safe mode of some sort.  I completely forgot about the live CD
[04:50] <junkeR> okay, I will do that.
[04:50] <junkeR> thanks a lot!
[04:50] <draik> Welcome
[04:50] <draik> I need my memory pills
[04:51] <draik> Quick relapse with "drive is busy"
[04:51] <lewix> lol draik ..I thoufht the 'wait..' was for me
[04:51] <FIRESIDE91> who needed a shell?
[04:51] <draik> FIRESIDE91: lewix did
[04:51] <FIRESIDE91> for what purpose did he need it?
[04:51] <FIRESIDE91> lewix: You aren't planning on running a botnet are you?
[04:52] <lewix> FIRESIDE91, no..I just want to experiment
[04:52] <FIRESIDE91> =P
[04:52] <intelikey> hehhe....
[04:52] <tzanger> good evening
[04:52] <FIRESIDE91> I remember quite a few free shells around the net...they're good depending on what you want to do
[04:53] <tzanger> is there an easy way to install kubuntu to a single system, and then mirror that installation to a dozen other identical systems?  short of taking the drive out and literally copying it I mean
[04:53] <lewix> FIRESIDE91, just try one for the first time..lol and do whatever I can
[04:53] <FIRESIDE91> tzanger: netboot maybe?
[04:53] <draik> tzanger: Ghost?
[04:53] <tzanger> FIRESIDE91: how does that help?  I need these systems to be installed identically, but they'll each diverge as time goes on
[04:54] <tzanger> draik: hmm I was hoping for some kind of apt-cache store-state command that would give me a file that I could feed to apt-get make-identical or something :-)
[04:54] <tzanger> I'm just talking that the systems would have identical package sets and so on
[04:54] <FIRESIDE91> lzanger: How about make a script that installs everything on top of Kubuntu...
[04:55] <tzanger> yeah I think I may have to end up doing that
[04:55] <FIRESIDE91> Not that bad...you COULD remaster the CD, but you might run out of space and paitence...
[04:55] <draik> FIRESIDE91: I had a MAJOR issue doing that. I tried and failed
[04:56] <FIRESIDE91> draik: Doing what again?
[04:56] <draik> FIRESIDE91: remastering my own. It went from CD to DVD... almost DL DVD
[04:56] <FIRESIDE91> lol
[04:57] <draik> I have a 500GB HDD. 347GB going to Kubuntu, 112GB to ntfs and 4GB as swap
[04:59] <tzanger> FIRESIDE91: apparently you can use dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections to get all the packages lined up, and I think rsync or tar will let me get any /etc changes I made by hand
[04:59] <tzanger> anyway I need to get some sleep... ttyl and thanks
[05:02] <Combatjuan> How do I set up a user that is "chrooted" to a particul directory and has only read permissions for the things in that directory and its subdirectories?
[05:03] <Combatjuan> I guess I man a user that doesn't really have a home directory.  (This would be for ssh logins and access to certain files).
[05:03] <FIRESIDE91> Combatjuan: That's a little hard to do
[05:04] <intelikey> !jail
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <Combatjuan> FIRESIDE91:  That's why I'm here.  (-8
[05:04] <intelikey> !chroot
[05:04] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[05:04] <intelikey> pfft
[05:04] <BluesKaj> !info jail
[05:04] <ubotu> jail: Just Another ICMP Logger. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.6-6 (feisty), package size 16 kB, installed size 140 kB
[05:05] <Combatjuan> Keep trying.  (-8
[05:05] <stdin> !info schroot
[05:05] <ubotu> schroot: Execute commands in a chroot environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.5-1 (feisty), package size 467 kB, installed size 1440 kB
[05:05] <Combatjuan> Well, I could give them a regular home directory with symlinks to the places I want them to have access to.  But how do I keep them from running programs and whatnot?
[05:06] <intelikey> oh i thought there might be an infonode on that.    but alas     and behold, "i thought"
[05:06] <stdin> intelikey: add one :p
[05:06] <intelikey> there are some good howto's already on the web.   look for "chroot jail"
[05:07] <BluesKaj> sacktime again  *v*  nite all
[05:07] <intelikey> stdin i'm to lazy.  and lag to much.
[05:08] <stdin> intelikey: you lag?   I'm just joking.
[05:10] <Jucato> :P
[05:10] <intelikey> FIRESIDE91 might as well be...    kubuntu-desktop $ ubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <FIRESIDE91> Sometime after 7.10 comes out packages for KDE4 will exist...
[05:10] <FIRESIDE91> intellikey: ???
[05:10] <stdin> I'm to lazy to use gentoo, "Gentoo person: What compiler flags you using?, Stdin: hu?"
[05:11] <Jucato> stdin: just use the defaults then heheh :)
[05:11] <Jucato> (or ask some KDE user what his USE flags are :P)
[05:11] <Jucato> or or....
[05:11] <Jucato> use Kubuntu!
[05:11] <stdin> Jucato: ahh, but that's not the gentoo way :p
[05:12] <n8k99> gentoo way is that above or below lois lane?
[05:12] <intelikey> don't forget the lag.     you type something,  then in five minutes i read it and answer, then in another five minutes you see my answer,,, after you forgot you asked me anything....
[05:12] <FIRESIDE91> My issue with K/Ubuntu is the binaries are for i386!
[05:12] <stdin> everyone say quiet for a while, intelikey will think his connection died :p
[05:13] <stdin> FIRESIDE91: i486 actually
[05:13] <FIRESIDE91> Why not i586 at least, i686 would be nicer though...
[05:13] <intelikey> stdin actually that works....   don't tell them....   ;/
[05:13] <FIRESIDE91> Well...then again...Xubuntu can run on 486 class machines...
[05:14] <stdin> i486 is generic enough to work on all systems (except actual 386 boxes)
[05:14] <intelikey> ubuntu will run on i386
[05:14] <intelikey> and i486 +
[05:14] <FIRESIDE91> SUSE uses i686....and the binaries run on most systems.....SUSE just sucks though
[05:15] <thomass> does anyone know how to change the introduction message you get when you connect to an ssh server
[05:15] <FIRESIDE91> I just hate fscking with gentoo
[05:15] <FIRESIDE91> thomass: depends on the server
[05:16] <thomass> FIRESIDE91: yes its my server
[05:16] <thomass> FIRESIDE91: i would like to change the greeting message
[05:16] <intelikey> thomass /etc/motd & /etc/issue.net
[05:16] <FIRESIDE91> rtfm?  Sorry, don't know much about SSH greetings...
[05:16] <FIRESIDE91> thanks intelikey
[05:17] <LeeJunFan> intelikey, thomass: there's a variable you need to change in /etc/defaults somewhere too I think so it doesn't get overwritten.
[05:18] <FIRESIDE91> Anyone know how to compile gentoo so it works fast, but actually looks good?  I got it and GNOME running once but the fonts and stuff were godawful
[05:18] <stdin> umm, this isn't a gentoo support channel
[05:18] <FIRESIDE91> lol
[05:18] <FIRESIDE91> true
[05:19] <LeeJunFan> well I don't see it in gutsy anywhere.
[05:19] <lewix> "why were you laughing like crazy"
[05:19] <thomass> intelikey: i have no folders
[05:19] <LeeJunFan> thomass: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> thomass: you might want to look at /etc/default/rcS - and change the line EDITMOTD= if it's set to yes.
[05:20] <thomass> LeeJunFan: edgy
[05:21] <LeeJunFan> thomass: okay, not sure when it disappeared, that variable is still set in dapper, I'm in gutsy at the moment and it's not on here.
[05:21] <jhutchins> printmotd is a useful variable in sshd_config
[05:22] <jhutchins> FIRESIDE91: Yes, wipe it and install kubuntu or mandriva.
[05:22] <FIRESIDE91> Mandriva?  /shiver
[05:22] <FIRESIDE91> RPM hell that was....worse than RH9...
[05:23] <thomass> LeeJunFan: ok I really don't know what these folders and files are........what should I google?
[05:24] <LeeJunFan> thomass: it's just a text file in /etc/default  the name of the file is rcS, there's a line reading EDITMOTD=yes by default
[05:24] <FIRESIDE91> thomass: You don't know what /etc is?
[05:25] <thomass> LeeJunFan: hehe actualy i don't have editmotd in there
[05:26] <thomass> FIRESIDE91: its etcetera but not sure exactly what its for
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> thomass: okay, must have been dropped in edgy then.
[05:26] <intelikey> space    ^   edit motd
[05:26] <stdin> thomass: it's not "etcetera"
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> thomass: /etc is where system wide configuration files are generally kept.
[05:26] <intelikey> as in;        sudo nano /etc/motd
[05:27] <thomass> LeeJunFan: system wide?
[05:27] <thomass> LeeJunFan: anyway configuration files ok cool
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> thomass: yes, as opposed to application config like kde or gnome config which will be kept in your home dir.
[05:28] <intelikey> thomass as opposed to user specific
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> /etc will have things like X config, Apache, PHP, postfix, and others.
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> amazing how much stuff is in /etc/
[05:28] <thomass> awww ok
[05:28] <stdin> any sort of editable text config file
[05:28] <thomass> alright good to konw
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> linux FUNdamentals
[05:28] <thomass> o well what do I google to learn about changing the message?
[05:29] <Jucato> (linux fundeMENTALs)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> the motd? its jsut a text file. I thought it got generated on the fly by a boot script however.
[05:30] <thomass> ok well gnight guys and thanks
[05:30] <thomass> or girls
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> i always disabel the showing of the motd anyway
[05:30] <wo0f> where is the auto update in kubuntu??
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> auto update? hmm . theres a update manager tool that should be in the panel.
[05:31] <_2> well i cut down my offline time with a script.  but i'm still getting reset "OFTEN" !
[05:31] <wo0f> called?
[05:31] <riefzu> good question, i want too..
[05:32] <wo0f> anyone?
[05:32] <siliconcpu> Does anyone have a D-link DI-624 router?
[05:32] <albertmk> Question:Any good tutorial about "how to install compiz-fusion on Kubuntu"?
[05:33] <Jucato> wo0f: adept_notifier will notify you if updates are avaiable. if there aren't any, it won't show on your system tray
[05:33] <Jucato> !compiz-fusion
[05:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:33] <wo0f> Jucato: cheers.
[05:33] <siliconcpu> Jucato:  =P
[05:33] <Jucato> siliconcpu: so how did it go?
[05:33] <siliconcpu> well, the ethernet portion works!
[05:34] <siliconcpu> yet, the wireless doesn't
[05:34] <wo0f> wtf, why is there no root with ubuntu
[05:34] <wo0f> sux
[05:34] <siliconcpu> I have a D-link DI-624 router and i'm wondering if that is causing issues
[05:34] <Jucato> !root | wo0f
[05:34] <ubotu> wo0f: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:35] <siliconcpu> Jucato: So now I am just searching users who have a DI-624 because i have seen problems getting it to work with wireless =(
[05:35] <wo0f> lol
[05:35] <wo0f> yeh
[05:35] <wo0f> prefer su pal.
[05:35] <Jucato> read the link
[05:35] <wo0f> neg
[05:37] <wo0f> at least aptitude still works
[05:38] <Jucato> ??
[05:38] <wo0f> ?
[05:38] <Jucato> why wouldn't it work?
[05:39] <Agent_bob> oh btw.  i got the "BSOD" issue fixed.  it was the kernel causing it.
[05:39] <fiyawerx> i need something fun to do
[05:40] <Agent_bob> fiyawerx there is no such thing.
[05:40] <fiyawerx> heh
[05:40] <fiyawerx> just got my install all updated, now i dont know what to do other than boot back into windows for some 2142
[05:42] <fiyawerx> anyone know any good linux games?
[05:42] <underdog5004> !tremulous
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tremulous - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <underdog5004> !info tremulous
[05:42] <ubotu> tremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-3 (feisty), package size 645 kB, installed size 1516 kB
[05:42] <underdog5004> very fun
[05:42] <fiyawerx> hm, will try it :)
[05:42] <fiyawerx> got an 8800gts going to waste here
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> that game makes me Dizzy...
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:44] <underdog5004> Dr_Willis, true
[05:44] <wo0f> where is the restricted drivers menu?
[05:44] <underdog5004> especially if you play as alien
[05:45] <riefzu> ada orang indonesia disini?
[05:45] <john> how do you use Libparmetis3.1?
[05:46] <Jucato> !id | riefzu
[05:46] <ubotu> riefzu: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[05:46] <fiyawerx> anyone play sauerbraten?
[05:46] <wo0f> anyone know where the restricted drivers menu is located within kubuntu
[05:46] <wo0f> ?
[05:47] <john> i need help with libparmetis, can anyone help me?
[05:47] <fiyawerx> woOf, on gutsy at least, it's : system settings -> advanced tab
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> fiyawerx thats a good game also.. works great on low end machines as well.
[05:48] <fiyawerx> Dr_Willis: it's fun, defintaely has potential, i love a lot of the maps, just not thrilled about the gameplay as much
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> run around killing things. :)
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> its more fun at a lan party vs ya friends
[05:56] <underdog5004> what game isn't?
[06:04] <scheater5> Does anyone know anything about "Davinci Techonlogy" or TI processors?
[06:05] <fiyawerx> heh, this game is neat
[06:05] <fiyawerx> re: tremulous
[06:23] <cpk1> !sound
[06:23] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:23] <riefzu> scheather5:look at :http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/landing/davinci/index.html
[06:26] <fiyawerx> !compiz-fusion
[06:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:27] <yasha> Hello
[06:27] <yasha> ho is speac to Russian . My Inglish is not good
[06:30] <enzo_> !ru | yasha
[06:30] <ubotu> yasha:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:30] <enzo_> dang it. Just missed yasha
[06:34] <greencookie> hi:)
[06:35] <greencookie> Can anyone help me setup java in SciTe?
[06:37] <greencookie> hello:)
[06:37] <greencookie> !javac
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <greencookie> !sciTE
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scite - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <greencookie> Help:)
[06:41] <greencookie> NVM:) I figured it out:) Yay!
[06:42] <lnx_> how i can put gnome or xfce panel aplets in kde panel ?
[06:42] <scheater5> greencookie: the beauty of lateral thinking.  I just got here and saw your questioning, for future reference the custom is to just fire away, and if anyone knows how to help they'll respond.
[06:44] <greencookie> scheater5: Thanks:)
[06:45] <greencookie> I needed to do this Java homework, just finished installing ubuntu, somehow managed to install Java SDK6, SciTE was easy, but my program wasnt compiling.
[06:46] <greencookie> Turns out to be my first lesson in java programing. Always name your file as the [classname] .java :):)
[06:47] <greencookie> !ot greencookie
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ot greencookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <greencookie> KDE or GNOME? :)
[06:49] <scheater5> why do you ask?
[06:49] <lnx_> in kate how i can not to see a point when i click on aspace ?
[06:51] <garfield> empty
[06:51] <garfield> weird
[06:52] <garfield> it's only 1 in the morning
[06:52] <melody> Hello
[06:52] <garfield> yo
[06:54] <melody> quick question.... I have my synaptic touchpad setup nicely with ksynaptics on kubuntu.  But, whenever I restart/relog onto the machine the settings for ksynaptics are not applied until I open the systray icon/app, alter one setting and then hit "apply"..then the ksynaptic settings come into affect again.  is there a fix to have ksynaptic load its settings by default?
[07:02] <greencookie> I ask KDE or GNOME because I thought I liked KDE better but found out I could use all KDE apps in GNOME which I feel has a smoother interface :):)
[07:02] <greencookie> just wanted to hear some opinions. ^_^
[07:03] <Lynoure> greencookie: the only opinion that matters is yours
[07:04] <Lynoure> Most here use kde, you can tell that without asking
[07:06] <Mr_Sonoma> gnome is nice, but i like the one click of KDE better also KDE for me has a more appealing feel
[07:07] <Mr_Sonoma> my wife likes XFCE but isnt terribly used to the interface so she defaults to the more familar KDE most of the time.
[07:12] <Doctor_Nick> I think after KDE 4 comes out, they'll be a general movement towards KDE and GNOME will stagnate
[07:16] <dsmith> gnome is ummmm...
[07:16] <dsmith> ugly
[07:18] <greencookie> Lol
[07:18] <greencookie> I dunno, but I find GNOME kinda friendly.
[07:19] <dsmith> aye, I could live with it
[07:19] <greencookie> Plus I play WoW :) Love them gnomes:) hehe
[07:19] <dsmith> but i have a choice
[07:19] <dsmith> :P
[07:19] <dsmith> lol
[07:19] <greencookie> So Ubuntu comes bundled up with only GNOME rite?
[07:19] <greencookie> no KDE.
[07:20] <phoenixz> Hi, I just installed kubuntu on a dell latitude d620 laptop. Im trying to view some movies with either mplayer, or kaffeine, but kaffeine shows a black image, and mplayer crashes with "X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)?,?% 0 0"..
[07:20] <dsmith> gnome, kde, xfce sp?
[07:20] <phoenixz> AFAIK, I have all drivers ok installed, I run compiz-fusion without problem..
[07:20] <phoenixz> I have the w32 codecs also installed
[07:20] <phoenixz> what could be the cause of this problem??
[07:20] <dsmith> dos it work when compiz is off?
[07:21] <greencookie> gstreamer plugin? I dunno I'm new to Linux n stuff but thats the first thing i installed
[07:21] <greencookie> and i think something called libdecode for dvd titles.
[07:22] <greencookie> http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/02/13-things-to-do-immediately-after.html
[07:22] <phoenixz> dsmith, dunno, how do I turn compiz off? :)
[07:22] <dsmith> d620, isn't that a fairly new laptop?
[07:23] <cpk1> argh I cant get my spdif out to work
[07:23] <cpk1> anyone have any experience with getting spdif out working?
[07:24] <phoenixz> dsmith, fgood question, I got it for my work :)
[07:24] <dsmith> doesn't it have a ay to default back to kwin?
[07:25] <dsmith> greencookie: hmmmm, I read thru that for the 13th time. I should have installed Kubuntu as ext2. No wonder windows wont R/W to it
[07:26] <dsmith> i dont like gdesklets either
[07:27] <cpk1> if you have ext3 you can still r/w from windows
[07:28] <dsmith> it acts funny for me
[07:28] <dsmith> works but then it wont work
[07:29] <dsmith> phoenixz: Can you play dvd's at all?
[07:29] <Ahmuck> what's the deal with registering with launchpad before submitting an error report?
[07:29] <dsmith> you can try wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free/i386/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_i386.deb
[07:29] <dsmith> sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_i386.de
[07:29] <dsmith> sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_i386.deb
[07:30] <FunnyLookinHat> Ahmuck, keeps spam out.
[07:31] <FunnyLookinHat> And it allows us to track user submissions, karma, etc.  It's a good thing, trust me.  : D
[07:31] <Ahmuck> ah, well, it keeps my bug report out to
[07:31] <dsmith> heh
[07:31] <Ahmuck> you would think they could create some type of error reporting for *buntu distro that would report properly
[07:32] <dsmith> thats too much like M$
[07:34] <Jucato> any (decent) bug tracker requires an account in that particular tracker. why should Ubuntu be any different?
[07:34] <bobbiac> well .. here goes .. ditching Debian for Kubuntu
[07:34] <bobbiac> i feel so .. uncomfortable
[07:35] <Jucato> have fun :)
[07:35] <bobbiac> oh .. does syslinux care if it's on a DVD+RW?
[07:36] <Jucato> syslinux?
[07:36] <bobbiac> the live cd
[07:36] <Jucato> nope
[07:36] <Jucato> doesn't care
[07:36] <Ahmuck>  cause if your looking for feedback from gusty, you lost this user, i don't want to have to go to the trouble of creating an account, logging in, just to submit a gutsy bug report, eh, somebody else is likely to run accross it so i'll just let them do it
[07:37] <Ahmuck> bobbiac: you have made a good decision, welcome to user land
[07:37] <bobbiac> most linux live cds boot from syslinux, then to the kernel, instead of from GRUB
[07:39] <bobbiac> that, and that fact that ubuntu's volume of traffic on freenode
[07:39] <bobbiac> is quite heavy
[07:39] <bobbiac> but w/e
[07:39] <bobbiac> big family
[07:40] <bobbiac> more "money makers"
[07:40] <bobbiac> so this week's gusty.. stable enough to play around with?
[07:40] <bobbiac> gutsy*
[07:41] <Jucato> Ahmuck: sorry, that mentality just irks me.
[07:42] <bobbiac> huh?
[07:43] <bobbiac> Vista didnt like iso's it seems
[07:44] <Jucato> does Vista still use that built-in Roxio thing? not sure if it burns ISO's at all
[07:44] <Ahmuck> Jucato: which mentality, the bug report or the welcom?
[07:44] <Jucato> the former
[07:45] <bobbiac> apathy?
[07:45] <Jucato> anyway, it's personal opinion... so nvm that
[07:45] <bobbiac> did MS ever use roxio?
[07:45] <Ahmuck> yes, i understand
[07:45] <Jucato> bobbiac: in XP
[07:46] <bobbiac> i know they went and raped and pillaged winzip
[07:46] <Jucato> Ahmuck: best I can tell you is 1) look for someone else to file the bug for you or 2) just ignore it
[07:46] <bobbiac> and zonealarm
[07:47] <Ahmuck> Jucato: yes, that is the problem, i am just ignoring it.  but i did rant in ubuntu+1.  there is an easy solution to this, system fingerprinting, standard bug report headers and bot intelligence for classification and dups
[07:48] <Jucato> if you say so
[07:49] <kuja> Hi, can anyone tell me why Firefox's user-interface isn't anti-aliasing under Ubuntu?  It doesn't anti-alias in both KDE and GNOME (though, I installed the Kubuntu CD).  I am currently using Kubuntu 7.04 AMD64.
[07:50] <_2> have error http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39607
[07:50] <_2> but i doubt that the error message is the actual problem
[07:50] <_2> anyone got insight ?
[07:51] <_2> or even good guess ?
[07:51] <bobbiac> _2: uhm .. nice nick?
[07:52] <_2> ty
[07:52] <Jucato> he's supposed to be binary...
[07:52] <_2> that's pronounced    base two
[07:52] <bobbiac> yay for internet sarcasm
[07:52] <bobbiac> but anyway
[07:53] <bobbiac> that is very little info to go on
[07:53] <_2> that's all i have.    gui apps ya know.
[07:53] <bobbiac> when did this start, what were you doing at the time, etc, etc
[07:54] <_2> started  probably at install   first notice was installed "falcon's eye"
[07:54] <_2> try to run it  and i get that message.
[07:55] <_2> only place i've seen anything like it so far.
[07:55] <bobbiac> have you checked with the app's maintainer ?
[07:56] <bobbiac> falcon's eye or w/e
[07:56] <bobbiac> pty is pretty low level, iirc
[07:57] <_2> no i haven't checked any place but here so far.   it's probably not an app error either...  probably "most likely" something that's not suid and thinks it should be   or not a symlink and thinks it should be....
[07:58] <_2> but i don't mess with a GUI enough to even start tracking it down.
[07:58] <bobbiac> why not?
[07:58] <bobbiac> if you don't mind me asking
[07:59] <bobbiac> heh
[07:59] <_2> just don't much like the pointy clicky thingy
[08:00] <bobbiac> can you telnet outside of X?
[08:00] <_2> i can do anything outside of X i can do in it.    or almost
[08:00] <bobbiac> or ssh, for that matter
[08:00] <_2> i'm not in X here
[08:01] <bobbiac> nod
[08:01] <bobbiac> irddi, if i remember right
[08:01] <bobbiac> err irssi
[08:01] <_2> bitchx   but yes irssi works too
[08:01] <michael-3142> does any one know how to configure kxdocker for kde?
[08:02] <_2> and xchat-text   as well as others.
[08:02] <bobbiac> have you tried telnet in X11, then?
[08:03] <bobbiac> micheal-3142 : dunno
[08:03] <_2> ah think i found it..   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39608
[08:04] <_2> near the end of that .xsession-error  log
[08:04] <bobbiac> why is gdm running?
[08:04] <_2> cause i started it
[08:04] <michael-3142> KDE is running
[08:04] <_2> yes
[08:04] <michael-3142> KDM
[08:04] <_2> no
[08:05] <_2> kdm writes in /root   i don't use kdm
[08:06] <bobbiac> yep .. that's a new panic for me
[08:06] <bobbiac> tho i havent seen man
[08:06] <bobbiac> many*
[08:07] <michael-3142> I am running kubuntu not gnome
[08:07] <bobbiac> micheal, sorry
[08:07] <michael-3142> sorry for what
[08:08] <bobbiac> i was talking to _2
[08:08] <_2> i'm running linux with gdm and kde at the moment
[08:08] <_2> ls -l /usr/bin/kgrantpty
[08:08] <_2> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 5704 Jan 19  2038 /usr/bin/kgrantpty
[08:08] <_2> looks like it's not the   suid error  but the fact that the app failed.
[08:10] <_2> app failed cause it couldn't change perms on /dev/something     and it couldn't do that because the system is mounted   nosuid   thus it thinks that the app is not marked suid.
[08:10] <_2> bobbiac no they play real nice togather
[08:10] <bobbiac> michael-3142: i havent troubleshot kde that much, so you would have to ask around in here
[08:12] <bobbiac> michael-3142: you might want to ask in #kde
[08:12] <_2> well i'll  move  ls -l /usr/bin/kgrantpty
[08:12] <_2> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 5704 Jan 19  2038 /usr/bin/kgrantpty
[08:12] <_2> ooops
[08:12] <bobbiac> heh
[08:12] <bobbiac> one of the reasons a window manager is nice
[08:13] <_2> well i'll move /usr/bin/kgrantpty  to some place safe and make   /usr/bin/kgrantpty  a symlink to /bin/true  then it should work
[08:13] <michael-3142> hello
[08:13] <michael-3142> does any one know how to configure kxdocker?
[08:13] <_2> bobbiac why   you never  paste the wrong buffer from GUI ?
[08:13] <bobbiac> all the time
[08:13] <Jucato> (btw, kxdocker isn't a KDE app, despite the name)
[08:14] <_2> i seldom do from cli,  but that was one of them
[08:14] <bobbiac> easier to catch imo, tho
[08:14] <Jucato> too late..
[08:14] <bobbiac> Jucato: really? heh
[08:15] <Jucato> hehe my bad.. I must be losing my mind a lot lately
[08:15] <bobbiac> wonder what it is, then
[08:15] <Jucato> kiba-dock is the GTK/GNOME one
[08:15] <Jucato> this is embarrassing...
[08:16] <bobbiac> we all make mistakes
[08:16] <Jucato> I made 2 today... that's too much for me :(
[08:16] <bobbiac> hot damn this DVD drive is frackin loud
[08:18] <_2> i think i remember what it wants.   it wants the pty to be 600 owned by the user
[08:18] <_2> that stinks.
[08:18] <bobbiac> does this weeks trunk include kde 4b2?
[08:18] <Jucato> hm?
[08:18] <bobbiac> gid's always annoyed me
[08:19] <_2> crap it's not that.
[08:19] <bobbiac> the gutsy build, does it have the KDE beta
[08:20] <zoffix_> Hi, my X crashed and now I am having a really hard time restoring my display settings. Is it somehow possible to restore X display settings to whatever was set when I've just installed the system?
[08:21] <zoffix_> Right now the resolution is either too small or too large. This is a laptop LCD display btw.
[08:21] <bobbiac> that's uhhh...
[08:22] <bobbiac> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[08:22] <zoffix_> There gotta be some "detect the right thing" feature, The way it detected everything on the install :/ If I use the "detect monitor" button in the System Settings it detects the wrong thing (640x480 res and my monitor can do more than that.
[08:22] <zoffix_> Ok, let me try that
[08:22] <bobbiac> wait
[08:23] <bobbiac> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[08:23] <bobbiac> i think
[08:23] <bobbiac> its been a while
[08:23] <zoffix_> ok, thanks. brb
[08:23] <Jucato> !fixres
[08:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:24] <Jucato> bah not that...
[08:24] <Jucato> !xconfig
[08:24] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[08:24] <Jucato> too late again!
[08:24] <bobbiac> yep
[08:24] <bobbiac> that's it
[08:24] <Jucato> 3 strikes. I'm out
[08:24] <bobbiac> set it o the VESA driver
[08:25] <Jucato> he's gone
[08:25] <bobbiac> damn
[08:25] <bobbiac> i bet he nukes his xorg
[08:25] <bobbiac> which is bad
[08:25] <Jucato> at least he doesn't nuke his /
[08:26] <Jucato> that's worse :)
[08:26] <bobbiac> too true
[08:26] <bobbiac> that was fast
[08:26] <bobbiac> !xconfig
[08:26] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[08:26] <bobbiac> i love bots
[08:26] <zoffix_> I'm on dual core 2.2GHz, 4GB RAM :D
[08:26] <Jucato> !botsnack
[08:26] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:27] <Jucato> zoffix_: see that command from the bot
[08:27] <bobbiac> set it o the VESA driver
[08:27] <martin_> jj
[08:27] <zoffix_> Hm, looks like that fixed it. At least display is now "usual", even though IIRC my max res was higher than 1074x780 :/
[08:27] <zoffix_> ok, I'll read up, thanks
[08:27] <bobbiac> and 1024 x 768
[08:28] <bobbiac> then find your gfx driver from nvidia or amd
[08:28] <bobbiac> and run the script
[08:28] <bobbiac> although i'd hold off on amd atm
[08:29] <bobbiac> they just released a decent chunk of whitepapers(?) for their ati line
[08:30] <bobbiac> so an "open" driver is coming .. nvm
[08:31] <bobbiac> note to self: make sure to tell people to run dpkg outside of X
[08:32] <bobbiac> oh, btw Jucato: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/
[08:32] <cknight> anyone played with KDE4.0?
[08:32] <bobbiac> gusty weekly
[08:32] <bobbiac> cknight: its shiny
[08:32] <Jucato> I see... it's even harder to get seeders for weekly builds :)
[08:32] <bobbiac> well, yeah
[08:33] <cknight> excellent, everything I wanted in a new desktop environment :)
[08:33] <bobbiac> cknight: it's like Vista.. but unlike Vista it is reasonably stable in beta
[08:34] <cknight> It is much speedier like I hear?
[08:34] <Jucato> like Vista?!?! such blasphemy!
[08:34] <bobbiac> hell my home basic still shits a brick weekly
[08:34] <Jucato> !kde4
[08:34] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[08:34] <bobbiac> blue screens
[08:35] <cknight> yeah, yeah, yeah, but what do folk *think* about it?
[08:35] <greencookie> I need to get a crash course in JAVA. Anyone know ne good websites:) got my HW due tomorrow morning:)
[08:35] <bobbiac> shiny?
[08:35] <greencookie> !OT greencookie
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ot greencookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <Jucato> greencookie: maybe ##java or #java
[08:36] <cknight> greencookie, what's the HW?
[08:36] <bobbiac> uhm .. how grey do you want to figure on going green?
[08:36] <greencookie> cknight: Write a Java program that will create and fill two one-dimensional arrays of integers, one containing positive integers, and the other containing negative integers
[08:37] <greencookie> ^_^ heh.
[08:37] <greencookie> Thats my HW.
[08:37] <bobbiac> like off-white, grey, or i cant see my hand in front of my face "grey"?
[08:37] <bobbiac> owie
[08:38] <bobbiac> well .. i'll bbl
[08:40] <greencookie> Anyone know of a good torrent site?
[08:40] <Huey> if nothing is being sent to the sound card, 'cat /dev/dsp' shouldn't output anything, right?
[08:41] <Jucato> !ot | greencookie
[08:41] <ubotu> greencookie: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:42] <greencookie> Ah. Ty Jucato.
[08:46] <greencookie> Is Gimp better than Photoshop?
[08:49] <Cael> AHHH my eyes
[08:50] <greencookie> :) :P
[08:51] <Huey> is there a way to tell what process is using a kernel module?
[08:51] <Huey> i cannot modprobe -r it because it is being used, but lsmod shows that it's not another module that's using it
[08:51] <Huey> or, is there a way to force-unmount a kernel module?
[08:52] <intelikey> could this be actually causing a problem with x apps ???   Xlib:  extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:52] <Cael> i actuallycame seeking if someone has been able to sucessfully install and configureyaboot for a PPC mac to run OSX and kubuntu?
[08:53] <Jucato> !ppc
[08:53] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[08:54] <Cael> the readme included with it is alil confusing, i know this much it needs it own partition for its files
[08:55] <Cael> its making it install is whats got me a lil confused
[08:55] <Cael> i'm on my mac atm its a G3 iMac
[08:56] <hangthedj> #DhaGG#4
[08:58] <Cael> i know the easiest way would be make kubuntu the main os and only os, but i want to be able to boot between the two
[08:58] <Cael> it'd make things so easy if Bootcamp would run on PPC macs
[09:01] <om_> hello
[09:01] <om_> im new linux user and i was trying sabayon gentoo but i found it kind of hard.. i hear this distro is easy and better? is this right?
[09:05] <genii> om_: If you are migrating from Windows, Kubuntu is a bit friendlier than most others :)
[09:05] <greencookie> Hell yeah om_:
[09:05] <greencookie> Gnome om_ :)
[09:06] <Cael> i found (on pc end) kubuntu pretty easy
[09:07] <om_> gnome? is not kubuntu kde?
[09:08] <om_> is kubuntu fast?
[09:08] <om_> fast boot?
[09:08] <jombee> not really
[09:08] <om_> which distrois the faster?
[09:08] <jombee> but that all depends on your definition of fast
[09:09] <Cael> well Kubuntu is fast just.. not fast to boot
[09:09] <jombee> fastest... probably gentoo
[09:09] <jombee> but I would have to say I'm a bit biased
[09:09] <Cael> of the Ubuntu distros if your looking for overallfast
[09:09] <Cael> xubuntu
[09:12] <jussi01> om_: dsl
[09:15] <genii> or puppylinux
[09:15] <genii> (fast boots)
[09:27] <waylandbill> gentoo can be faster, but all the speed is lost in compiling as it's a sourced based distro. If you want faster, a faster system will be the most noticable.
[09:28] <jombee> but by the time you're done compiling, you're grateful for whatever system you've got
[09:30] <Jucato> after that, everything else can be done while you're doing something else...
[09:30] <Jucato> but this isn't #gentoo :)
[09:31] <waylandbill> It's a good distro don't get me wrong. My only point is that improving the hardware will have a much bigger impact IMO.
[09:31] <waylandbill> of course that takes money though. :)
[09:31] <Jucato> (but optimization through compiling is just one, albeit an overhpyed by users, benefits of gentoo...)
[09:34] <waylandbill> does compiling coffee use java source code?
[09:34] <Jucato> :)
[09:34] <genii> waylandbill: No, my coffee is open source ;)
[09:35] <Jucato> (technically, so is Java :P)
[09:36] <genii> geez it's 3:35am already
[09:37] <waylandbill> ubuntu used to have kernels optimized for different cpus, but I didn't notice hardly any difference between that and the i386 one. That's where optimization would have the most benefit... in the kernel.
[09:38] <genii> Well, see you all in 4 1/2 hours or so after I get home and get (hopefully) 3 3/4 hrs sleep before work....
[09:38] <greencookie> bye genii.
[09:38] <genii> greencookie: gnite
[09:38] <Jucato> !generic
[09:38] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[09:39] <greencookie> How do i know what version of Ubuntu I'm using? i wanna make sure I'm using the rite one for amd64
[09:39] <Jucato> !version | greencookie
[09:39] <ubotu> greencookie: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[09:40] <Jucato> to find out which kernel you are running, "uname -r"
[09:40] <greencookie> 2.6.20-16-generic
[09:40] <greencookie> is that for amd64 machines?
[09:40] <Jucato> nope
[09:40] <Jucato> !amd64
[09:40] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[09:41] <greencookie> !tinyurl
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tinyurl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <Jucato> hm?
[09:42] <kuja> I installed Kubuntu 7.04 (amd64), but I can't seem to figure out on my own, or with Google (even if my life depended on it) .. just *how* I can make Firefox either 1) inherit KDE's anti-aliasing or 2) inherit GNOME's anti-aliasing.  For other GTK apps, I have made them inherit GNOME's font settings (incluiding anti-aliasing).. but it would appear that Firefox and Thunderbird are too special.  Anyone got an idea?
[09:42] <Jucato> greencookie: tinyurl is a service that aliases a short URL for a very long one
[09:42] <Jucato> just click on that link
[10:10] <x2_> please give me packet
[10:37] <bahr> Hi, is 10GB diskspace enough for kubuntu 7.04 to run perfectly without problems for desktop/normal/school use?
[10:38] <SlimeyPete> should be, yes.
[10:39] <bahr> Ok I hope so, cause we are forced to use VS.Net and flash and other win appz, and I really don't want to be stuck only using windows due to limited harddisk space :S
[10:50] <Sbucat_il_peccat> hi i have problem with kubuntu i cannot encode with mencoder avi-to mov because i have not the last mencoder but..i cannot find where i can donwload it and how to install it
[10:54] <emilsedgh> Sbucat_il_peccat: have you ffmpeg?
[10:59] <Sbucat_il_peccat> emilsedgh: i have ffmpeg
[11:00] <Sbucat_il_peccat> emilsedgh: i am doing a easy interfaces in gambas 2 for convert any file =)
[11:00] <emilsedgh> Sbucat_il_peccat: did you try it?
[11:00] <emilsedgh> Sbucat_il_peccat: ffmpeg -i input.avi output.mov
[11:01] <Sbucat_il_peccat> emilsedgh: ok i wil try now with that =)
[11:03] <emilsedgh> Sbucat_il_peccat: nice, there is no good interface to convert video's
[11:04] <Neutrinux> hi! I have tiny fonts using nvidia-glx-new with kubuntu gutsy? someone to fix it?
[11:05] <Sbucat_il_peccat> emilsedgh: it's in italian but i think it came soon in english see this http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=114002.0
[11:07] <combinio> how can i rip cd with game on my disc so i can have a back-up of that game ? :) is in kub. some 'Alcohol' tool like in WinXP ? :)
[11:07] <Sbucat_il_peccat> combinio: k3b
[11:08] <Sbucat_il_peccat> combinio: just search it in adept manager (system--adeptmanager)
[11:08] <combinio> already got that... but is this gonna make a rip of a game too ?
[11:08] <combinio> Sbucat_il_peccat: type 'rip' ?
[11:08] <combinio> i've that program
[11:08] <Sbucat_il_peccat> sorry i ma busy now
[11:08] <combinio> Sbucat_il_peccat: ok, thx for info :)
[11:09] <emilsedgh> Sbucat_il_peccat: wait for a while, im on a low connection
[11:11] <emilsedgh> combinio: create an image
[11:11] <Sbucat_il_peccat> emilsedgh: mm i think you cannot see the picture..because you are not registred into ubuntu-it, i think youi can see it in youtube still in italian =)  or here http://ilfuocodilinux.wordpress.com/
[11:11] <emilsedgh> combinio: go to K3B, Copy the Cd, just check the 'Only Create Image' checkbox
[11:12] <emilsedgh> combinio: then you can Mount the ISO like a real disk
[11:12] <combinio> emilsedgh: big THX :)
[11:13] <__osh__> Is there some place to request "updates" to packages? In feisty the package "komparator" is at 0.5 and 0.7 is out with quite a few improvements.
[11:13] <Sbucat_il_peccat> emilsedgh: mm ffmpeg works, medibuntu repo but i stil have problem no audio =(
[11:14] <__osh__> Or will new packages only come with new releases of kubuntu?
[11:14] <XsteelWolf> use mplayer
[11:14] <XsteelWolf> mplayer rocks more than ffmpeg :P
[11:14] <XsteelWolf> make sure you got all the codecs install
[11:15] <Sbucat_il_peccat> XsteelWolf: nope it don t support well mov file
[11:15] <XsteelWolf> it does support mov file
[11:15] <XsteelWolf> your codecs isn't there i believe
[11:15] <Sbucat_il_peccat> XsteelWolf: i am doing a nice converter and i need mov file ca be played into damned quicktime plauyer
[11:15] <emilsedgh> Sbucat_il_peccat: nice job, you should translate it into English and post it to kde-apps :)
[11:16] <Sbucat_il_peccat> emilsedgh: it's for kde and gnome =)
[11:16] <emilsedgh> Sbucat_il_peccat: so, post it on gnome-files too :), but, AFAIK, gambas is more KDE Intergrated?
[11:17] <Sbucat_il_peccat> XsteelWolf: i am sorru but i have encode with this string mencoder  -oac  faac -faacopts br=192:mpeg=4:object=2 -channels 2 -srate 22050 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=300 -of lavf  -lavfopts i_certify_that_my_video_stream_does_not_use_b_frames -o output.mov input
[11:18] <Sbucat_il_peccat> but mov file is not correct window media player it works but quicktime it said is not a quicktime supported
[11:18] <Sbucat_il_peccat> emilsedgh: it is written in gambas 2 and i am in kde and works great =)
[11:18] <emilsedgh> nice
[11:19] <emilsedgh> im watching it
[11:20] <XsteelWolf> not sure about that
[11:20] <XsteelWolf> usually i converted it into .flv for my site
[11:20] <XsteelWolf> then play it with a universal flash player :D
[11:21] <Cael> back again maybe someone can help a lil more , i'm trying to get terminal toio do ./makefile install for yaboot
[11:21] <Cael> buti get -bash: ./makefile: Permission denied
[11:23] <Cael> take it no one can help?
[11:25] <SlimeyPete> chmod +x it
[11:25] <SlimeyPete> "./makefile" is an odd way of doing things, however O.o
[11:26] <Cael> then what do u dsuggest i go by installing yaboot?
[11:28] <SlimeyPete> Cael: read the INSTALL file. The normal way is "./configure; make; make install"
[11:28] <SlimeyPete> though yaboot might be different for all I know
[11:33] <Sbucat_il_peccat> XsteelWolf: the problem is mencoder is not for all format
[11:34] <Sbucat_il_peccat> because free and close issue
[11:34] <Sbucat_il_peccat> and so some format does t works propely
[11:38] <wers> !mac
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <Sbucat_il_peccat> #mencoder
[12:01] <ryaren> hi
[12:01] <ryaren> How can I mount a winchester with read and write access by my hand?
[12:01] <ryaren> What is tha correct option?
[12:04] <wers> I installed openoffice.org to my aunt's windows computer and it loads for just about 4 seconds while oo.o loads for about a minute in my kubuntu laptop. we even have the same exact hardware
[12:07] <slackern> wers: for me it took 12 seconds to start oo writer the first time, 2nd time it took 3 seconds, this is on an oldish athlon xp @ 2ghz and 1gb ram running Kubuntu (Gutsy)
[12:07] <slackern> wers: might not help you much though just wanted to give you something to compare too
[12:07] <wers> okay.. thanks anyway
[12:07] <jussi01> about 3 seconds here... on a turion 64 with 2 gb ram...
[12:07] <wers> may I know your hardware specs?
[12:08] <wers> i have 1.5ghz celeron m and 512 mb ram
[12:08] <Jucato> wers: maybe the quickstart is preloaded in Windows
[12:08] <slackern> AMD Athlon-XP @ 2Ghz, 1 GB DDR, X1950Pro card and a 250GB 7200rpm SATA harddrive.
[12:09] <wers> hmmm.. yeah jucato
[12:09] <wers> i'll try to enable quickstart too
[12:09] <wers> but no.. i also tried turning quickstart on windows too but it's still fast
[12:09] <Jucato> !info oooqs2-kde
[12:09] <ubotu> oooqs2-kde: OpenOffice.org2 QuickStarter applet for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 336 kB
[12:11] <wers> okay.. i'm installing oooqs20-kde now jucatskeee
[12:11] <Jucato> hehe
[12:12] <Jucato> but yes, it starts up quite slow
[12:12] <wers> how long does it start in your box?
[12:12] <Jucato> hm.. let's try now
[12:12] <Jucato> 12s
[12:13] <Jucato> hm.. that's shorter than what I'm used to :)
[12:13] <wers> woowwwww
[12:13] <Jucato> but that's just the first run.
[12:13] <wers> how about your specs?
[12:13] <Jucato> 2nd run took less than 4 seconds
[12:13] <ryaren> How can I mount a winchester with read and write access by my hand?
[12:13] <Jucato> 1.5ghz 1GB ram
[12:14] <jussi01> !intelhad
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intelhad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <jussi01> !intelhda
[12:14] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[12:14] <wers> ohhh.. there is something wrong with my oo.o then
[12:14] <wers> i'll try installing 2.3
[12:18] <cee> is it possible somehow to show what processes that are using the sound device?
[12:24] <Lord_Drachenblut> has anyone got kickerqt_i386 to work on there system?
[12:27] <__osh__> cee: fuser /dev/dsp?
[12:27] <__osh__> cee: perhaps. I haven't tried it.
[12:30] <shegman> can anyone tell me how to let my udev get noticed of my webcam? normaly it should made a /dev/video0 but it doesn't
[12:33] <jeroen__> hello
[12:34] <SMP_ca> !sound
[12:34] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:34] <SMP_ca> !alsa
[12:35] <wers> Jucato, how do I run oooqs2-kde? :D
[12:35] <Jucato> um. dunno.. like I said... rarely use.. :/
[12:35] <Jucato> try typing the name in Konsole?
[12:36] <wers> didnt work :(
[12:39] <Jucato> sorry no idea
[12:48] <holycow> hey guys
[12:48] <holycow> does kdm allow animations to be played as part of the login process?
[12:48] <XsteelWolf> i believe yes
[12:51] <holycow> interesting thx
[12:52] <koriel> anyone familiar with kopete?
[12:53] <koriel> I want to disable the case when someone message me and the dialog box is coming on front of everything
[12:53] <koriel> is really annoying
[12:54] <Thinkk> how do I use the fingerprint reader in kubuntu??
[12:54] <emilsedgh> koriel: ask your question :)
[12:55] <emilsedgh> koriel: I think that should be configured in Kopete->Configure Notifications (Im not sure)
[12:56] <Jucato> koriel: which dialog box?
[12:58] <koriel> when I'm having a conversation and i alt+tab to another application if that user msg me than this conversation window is coming to front all the times
[12:59] <Jucato> koriel: Settings -> Configure -> Behavior -> Events tab -> [ ]  Raise window on incoming message ?
[01:00] <Jucato> uncheck that and see if it works
[01:02] <koriel> no it is still coming to front ... I unchecked all options
[01:02] <koriel> everywhere :)
[01:02] <emilsedgh> wow, Kget on kde4 looks nice, I think at last we have a nice Download Manager
[01:02] <Thinkk> doesn't anyone have a laptop with a fingerprint reader, and managed to make it work in linux??
[01:03] <Jucato> emilsedgh: you're not confusing the plasmoid with the app are you?
[01:15] <wers> will there be a gutsy tribe 6?
[01:41] <dwidmann> wers: probably, I'm pretty sure there was a feisty herd 6
[01:43] <dwidmann> wait, it looks like the tribe6 "release" was cancelled
[01:43] <jussi01> dwidmann: topic?
[01:43] <jussi01> ;)
[01:44] <jussi01> oh, hang on... in +1...
[01:44] <jussi01> gah
[01:44] <dwidmann> o.O
[01:44] <engin> what is the devel chanel of kubuntu / ubuntu?
[01:44] <jussi01> they had a thing about it in the topic for ages
[01:44] <dwidmann> engin: probably #kubuntu-devel
[01:44] <jussi01> engin: #ubuntu+1
[01:44] <ardchoille> engin: #ubuntu+1
[01:45] <dwidmann> jussi01: I'm usually too lazy to look at the topic
[01:46] <jussi01> dwidmann: you should look there. there is usually a lot of information thats important...
[01:47] <dwidmann> I gather any information that I deem important from rss feeds
[01:48] <dwidmann> Apparently I missed and/or purposely skipped that though.
[01:50] <Franco-a-c> hola a todos
[01:50] <Franco-a-c> hablan espaol aqui?