[02:10] <NCommander> hey wgrant
[10:51] <Accidus> Where can I find more help on the luachpadlib module, except for the API html page?
[11:01] <thekorn> Accidus: https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib and the branch also contains a docs/ directory
[11:01] <thekorn> with some usefull documentation
[11:03] <Accidus> Thank you very much, but I've already looked there. I guess I'm on my own then?
[11:06] <thekorn> Accidus: I'm not sure, but what about asking your questions here, or https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpadlib or on the launchpad-users mailinglist?
[11:07] <thekorn> I think the api devs are always happy to hear where they can improve the documentation ;)
[11:08] <Accidus> thekorn: To tell you the truth, it's because I'm new to launchpadlib, so I figured messing the forums/mailing lists with newbie questions wouldn't be appropriate
[11:09] <thekorn> Accidus: launchpadlib is brand new, so every user is new to it, just ask your questions
[11:10] <Accidus> Ah, that's something I didn't know...
[14:54] <persia> I seem to have locked a branch in LP (my branch, noone else should be using it).  How can I unlock it?
[14:56] <Verterok> persia: try with: bzr break-lock <your-branch>
[14:56] <persia> Verterok: Thank you.  That worked.
[14:57] <Verterok> persia: great, glad to help :)
[15:41] <salutis> hello all, I have big problem - recently I moved my packages from my own server to ubuntu's PPA at launchpad. and now I can't build my packages anymore. I placed my log at 'http://www.salutis.sk/ppa-log.txt'. can anyone please help me? thanks!
[15:42] <cprov> salutis: can you point me to your ppa ?
[15:43] <salutis> cprov: http://ppa.launchpad.net/salutis/ubuntu
[15:43] <salutis> cprov: there are 3 source packages - all with the same build failure :(
[15:44] <salutis> cprov: right now, geser at #motu adviced me - the build target is always run as non-root on the buildds, just remove the dh_testroot from the build target and it should get farther. I will try
[15:45] <cprov> salutis: yes, I'm there too
[15:46] <cprov> salutis: btw, you have a permanent URL for you failed build -> https://edge.launchpad.net/~salutis/+archive/+build/722220
[16:53] <persia> How long should I wait after a push before the branch is available on LP?
[16:56] <Verterok> persia: the branch is available immediately, but it take some time until it's showed in the we interface (I don't know the precise mechanism, but I think it's scanned)
[16:56] <Verterok> s/we interface/web interface/ :p
[16:56] <persia> OK.  I usually find it's just a couple minutes, but I've been waiting 7, which seems long.
[18:49] <Peng_> FWIW, it might also take a few minutes for the branch to be available over http://bazaar.launchpad.net/. bzr+ssh or sftp will be instantaneous.
[18:49] <Peng_> (Right? Cough.)
[18:51] <cprov> Peng_: yes, http branch mapping takes some minutes (IIRC)
[18:52] <Peng_> :)
[18:54] <kiko> cprov, peng_: I think it's something like 3 minutes
[18:55] <cprov> kiko: thanks.
[20:25] <jdrake> When making a blueprint, I notice there is a way to set a milestone, but I am not sure how to actually setup milestones. Any ideas?
[20:31] <kiko> jdrake, sure thing. what project are we talking about?
[20:32] <jdrake> My project 'starz'
[20:33] <jdrake> I have the series 'demo1' and 'trunk', the latter obviously being there already. I am not sure I would really want trunk there, being that I am doing all current development in demo1
[20:36] <kiko> jdrake, why didn't you just rename trunk to demo1?
[20:36] <jdrake> even with demo1 already there?
[20:36] <kiko> well, now it's a bit too late (though I can fix that for you)
[20:38] <jdrake> Is it possible to delete a series?
[20:41] <nedko> why launchpad refuses to show my location on the map?
[20:43] <kiko> jdrake, I can delete it for you. should I delete trunk?
[20:43] <maco> i need a bit of help. i pushed a branch to bazaar on launchpad a bit over a week ago, and launchpad still reports that it's empty.  i've tried to push from my computer again, but it says there's nothing new to commit.  what do i do?
[20:43] <salgado> nedko, have you set your location at https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editlocation
[20:43] <kiko> maco, oh, URL?
[20:43] <jdrake> kiko, I think that would be best, thank you.
[20:44] <maco> kiko: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~maco.m/update-manager/update_button
[20:46] <nedko> salgado: yes, i see the correct location there, and my timezone is fine too, in fact once there was only timezone and it looks launchpad used that. I dont see the map on my page and i dont see my location in team maps
[20:48] <kiko> cprov, check out maco's failure
[20:48] <kiko> cprov, something stuck in the scanner I think
[20:48] <cprov> kiko: sure
[20:49] <salgado> nedko, what's your LP username?
[20:49] <nedko> salgado: i think i missed how to use google maps, i need to click to set it o.0
[20:49] <nedko> salgado: it is "nedko"
[20:49] <kiko> nedko, click and then update
[20:50] <cprov> maco: can you try a `push --overwrite` ?
[20:51] <nedko> salgado, kiko: thanks, now it is fine
[20:54] <cprov> maco: is it working ?
[20:58] <maco> cprov: no new revisions to push
[21:00] <maco> cprov: it also says Format <RepositoryFormatKnit1> for lp-140342092:///~maco.m/update-manager/update_button/.bzr is deprecated - please use 'bzr upgrade' to get better performance
[21:00] <cprov> maco: that's bad, then the last resource is `bzr ci --unchanged -m "go, bzr, go" && bzr push`
[21:01] <cprov> maco: this is unrelated, but if you upgrade there will be something to push, for sure.
[21:01] <maco> cprov: i tried that last night when i got that error. no change.
[21:03] <cprov> maco: when, introduce a new revision then. Let me check if the bzr guys can help
[21:03] <cprov> maco: and let's open a bug about it.
[21:03] <maco> cprov: it could have been the timing
[21:04] <maco> cprov: i first tried it last thursday a few hours after the lp update
[21:04] <cprov> maco: yes, maybe.
[21:05] <maco> cprov: and i remember there was some emergency patching happening throughout the next day... i had one branch push fine about an hour before, and then this one didn't
[21:06] <rockstar> maco, what if bzr push --force
[21:07] <rockstar> Er, bzr push --overwrite
[21:07] <maco> rockstar: didn't try that, but after adding a new reivion like cprov suggested, it pushed
[21:07] <maco> rockstar: oh, did try --overwrite. no good.
[21:07] <rockstar> But a new revision pushed?
[21:07] <maco> rockstar: yes
[21:08] <rockstar> Launchpad still doesn't see your push though.  :(
[21:08] <maco> rockstar: or at least, bzr didn't yell at me
[21:08] <rockstar> You should see the Source Code link as soon as it pushes.
[21:08] <maco> rockstar: i'm told it can take up to 5 minutes for the lp web interface to show it
[21:08] <maco> oh its been 5 minutes...
[21:08] <rockstar> maco, well, the revisions, yes, the Source Code link, no.
[21:09] <rockstar> I did that myself, so I know that code relatively well.
[21:09] <maco> :-/
[21:10] <kiko> rockstar, it seems that there's a problem with that specific branch mirrorring
[21:10] <kiko> maco, does it use something unusual such as stacking or looms?
[21:11] <maco> kiko: um, you say that and i think plates and making fabric...
[21:11] <rockstar> kiko, I'm pulling it currently, meaning it's coming from the mirror.
[21:12] <rockstar> maco, I guess that means no to looms.  :)
[21:12] <maco> rockstar: i just did bzr branch, made some changes, bzr ci, and then bzr push
[21:13] <rockstar> maco, it branched for you?
[21:14] <kiko> heh
[21:14] <maco> rockstar: yes
[21:14] <rockstar> Mine appears to be hung.  I see no hpss traffic if I sniff my connection.
[21:14] <maco> er, i dont mean just now
[21:14] <maco> i mean when i did this last thursday
[21:14] <rockstar> Oh, so branching from this branch right now isn't working for you?
[21:15] <rockstar> Oh, there it goes!  hpss traffic now!
[21:15] <maco> havent tried that
[21:15] <rockstar> I just branched it.  Maybe it just needs to be rescanned after the interruption.
[21:15] <maco> i meant "just" as in "only"
[21:15] <maco> rescanned?
[21:16] <rockstar> So the branch is intact, but Launchpad needs to look at it again.
[21:24] <rockstar> kiko, I think you're right.  Something happened in the mirroring process.  I bet we see an oops from this.
[21:25] <kiko> rockstar, yeah, I think there's something unusual about his branch
[21:25] <kiko> rockstar, does bzr info tell you anything interesting?
[21:25] <rockstar> kiko, her
[21:28] <rockstar> bzr info yields nothing unusual.  The branch is indeed intact. This concerns me a bit.
[21:41] <maco> rockstar: so um, do you guys need any other info from me?
[21:45] <rockstar> maco, no, I think I need to do some sleuthing.
[21:46] <rockstar> maco, by the way, if you find yourself in a creole country, and someone calls you maco, you should be offended.  :)
[21:47] <maco> rockstar: is that where it means "nebby"?
[21:48] <maco> wait i think that's pittsburghese.... um nosey
[21:48] <maco> someone in #linuxchix said it means that somewhere...i thought it was one of the aussies, but maybe not
[21:49] <rockstar> maco, well, that's what it means in French.  In Creole, the closest English word I know would be "Peeping Tom"
[21:49] <maco> O_o
[21:49] <rockstar> So, maybe nosy pervert?
[21:49] <maco> wow ok...
[21:49] <rockstar> I learned it by talking to someone's girlfriend, and they thought I was flirting with her.
[21:50] <maco> why'd they think that?
[21:50] <rockstar> maco, *shrug* mwen pas sais.
[21:51] <maco> rockstar: je ne parle pas francais :P
[21:51] <maco> but i can type that ç
[21:52] <rockstar> I actually speak Creole.  It's like one way French.
[21:53] <maco> like moroccans can understand middle eastern arabic, but middle easterners can't understand moroccan arabic?
[22:05] <RainCT> Hi
[22:05] <RainCT> I've just got 3 [Accepted] emails (with like 5-10 minutes between each) for a single PPA upload..
[22:05] <cprov> RainCT: uhm let me check.
[22:06] <cprov> RainCT: which source ?
[22:06] <RainCT> cprov: bsod
[22:08] <cprov> RainCT: that's weird, because it doesn't look like more than one was sent to Recipients: "Siegfried Gevatter \(RainCT\)"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:10] <cprov> RainCT: do they have the same content ? different msg-ids ?
[22:11] <RainCT> cprov: Ah wait, it's just two. "[PPA rainct] Accepted: bsod ... (source)" and "[PPA rainct] [ubuntu/hardy] bsod ... (Accepted)"
[22:12] <cprov> RainCT: err, PPA stamp on primary archive upload-announcements ?
[22:13] <RainCT> cprov: sorry?
[22:14] <cprov> RainCT: forward the email(s) to me, please<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:14] <cprov> RainCT: the '[ubuntu/hardy]' is weird.
[22:18] <RainCT> cprov: done
[22:18] <cprov> RainCT: thanks
[22:34] <cprov> RainCT: strange, I've just uploaded a new version of your source to my PPA and received one single email (with [ubuntu/hardy] in the subject)
[22:34] <cprov> oh, you have two emails ...
[22:36] <cprov><EMAIL_ADDRESS>(preferred) &<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(used in the changesfile), that might be related.
[22:38] <RainCT> yea, but both mails were send to the first address
[22:40] <maco> RainCT: what's your @ubuntu.com email address map to?
[22:42] <cprov> maco: it was sent from lp to his @gmail address.
[22:43] <RainCT> maco<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:43] <maco> so then they should both end up at that gmail address, shouldn't they?
[22:45] <cprov> maco: and they did. RainCT ?
[22:46] <maco> so what's wrong then?
[22:47] <cprov> maco: there shouldn't be 2 emails.
[22:48] <cprov> maco: only one is expected. The one with subject starting with '[PPA rainct] [ubuntu/hardy] ...'
[22:49] <cprov> RainCT: err, if we have ever checked the date (!)
[22:49] <cprov> and the version ... [PPA rainct] Accepted: bsod 0.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1 (source)
[22:49] <cprov> RainCT: that email is from 2008/6/18 :)
[22:54] <RainCT> cprov: LOL sorry
[22:55] <cprov> RainCT: np, better than having a real bug.
[22:55] <RainCT> seems like GMail was mad and it put the mail three times into the inbox or something -.-  sorry
[22:55] <RainCT> heh yea that's true


[10:43] <Mitch_Owen> MonsieurBon, you have been a help Thank you!
[10:43] <ubu> I tried to edit my sources.list and to add dag wiers repository. But it didn't work.
[10:43] <mirak> I have a problem with pmount. After several mounts and unmounts, it just don't work anymore !!!!!
[10:43] <Seveas> JoeBlow, don't mess with essential files after having had way too many beers :)
[10:43] <ompaul> shinobi319, join #help and see what can be done for you
[10:43] <poningru> JoeBlow: rofl
[10:43] <narles> does anyone use gnome-look.org?
[10:43] <Seveas> ubu, that's because he has no .deb packages as far as I can see...
[10:43] <Tyrsis> Ok well I am downloading Breezey now
[10:43] <JoeBlow> Seveas, i installed linux without swap after to many beer, and now im trying to fix it
[10:43] <narles> i'm trying to download different themes for my gnome GUI
[10:43] <mwe> mirak: does it persist after reboot, the problem?
[10:43] <JoeBlow> Seveas, i hate how it wont let u have more then 4 partitions
[10:43] <gnomefreak> new slogan? dont drink and play
[10:44] <sklav> Awesome Seveas that did the trick
[10:44] <freak_> mwe, know where i can post this bug to the fluxbox guys?
[10:44] <poningru> JoeBlow: jus make a logical partition
[10:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: Or it might not.
[10:44] <narles> do i want to download  a GTK2.x?
[10:44] <blueandwhiteg3> JowBlow: Sounds like it's best to avoid beer and linux :)
[10:44] <mirak> mwe: no
[10:44] <mwe> freak_: it's not a fluxbox bug. it's an ubuntu bug
[10:44] <stephen__> wat should i do
[10:44] <Seveas> narles, http://art.gnome.org/faq.php
[10:44] <mirak> mwe: I tried to restart udev for exemple but it wasn't working
[10:44] <ompaul> JoeBlow, I have 10 partitions on this box ....
[10:44] <skon> Someone know how to only modify a specific module in Bastille?
[10:44] <JoeBlow> poningru, it wont let me in gparted
[10:44] <ubu> OK. Got it. Do have any hint where to find codecs for xine to play dvds and mpeg encoded files?
[10:45] <JoeBlow> ompaul, can u help me make one then?
[10:45] <sklav> I tried ipodlinux
[10:45] <mika0800> Pumpernickle: thanks, but... I have already got so far that PINGing my lan works. But don't know how to get full network functionality. But if there is some way to force the installer to load the correct module for my NIC, then the installer would do all the necessary configuration automatically.
[10:45] <sklav> hehe
[10:45] <sklav> no bad
[10:45] <Seveas> ubu, cipherfunk, /msg ubotu easysource
[10:45] <Tyrsis> Whats the kernel version of Breezey ?
[10:45] <Seveas> Tyrsis, 2.6.15
[10:45] <mika0800> And, I plan to reinstall linux fromn scratch anyway.
[10:45] <Pygi> freaky: have you written it?
[10:45] <ubu> thanks Seveas!
[10:45] <poningru> JoeBlow: use an ubuntu live cd
[10:45] <mwe> freak_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[10:45] <Bevin> which package provides /lib32/libgcc_s.so.1. ?
[10:45] <Tyrsis> Great, the other one was 6.6 or something
[10:46] <Seveas> Bevin, ia32-libs I think..
[10:46] <poningru> Seveas: um I dont think thats true
[10:46] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i started but i got tied up in win i will be getting back on it in near future tonight
[10:46] <Bevin> Seveas: sadly, not :-(
[10:46] <Tyrsis> Will breezey have the updated version of Ndiswrapper ??
[10:46] <usr13> trying out a 5.04 install, fully updated
[10:46] <ompaul> JoeBlow, if you have had too many beers that might be a bad thing :-)
[10:46] <mwe> Bevin: learn to use apt-file. it will tell you
[10:46] <poningru> 2.6.15 is for dapper
[10:46] <Seveas> Bevin, eh, breezy has .12
[10:46] <Seveas> dapper has .15
[10:46] <JoeBlow> ompaul, but i have no swap!!!
[10:46] <Pygi> freaky: ah well :/
[10:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: If you can access LAN services but not external ones, it might just be a DNS issue.
[10:46] <usr13> actually a friend of mine installed it on a pretty nice computer
[10:46] <blueandwhiteg3> Is it possible or reasonable to use the debian VLC nightly builds with Ubuntu? http://nightlies.videolan.org/
[10:46] <usr13> and it's nice..
[10:46] <Seveas> Tyrsis, eh, breezy has .12
[10:46] <ompaul> JoeBlow, how did you manage that
[10:46] <Seveas> dapper has .15
[10:46] <Bevin> mwe: I need it, but haven't got it yet
[10:46] <JoeBlow> ompaul, i ran windows without any of that, on a gig of ram no problem, but linux just isnt doing it
[10:46] <usr13> seems to use mostly just sudo
[10:46] <Tyrsis> Ok well I had Horay version
[10:47] <skon> Someone know how to only modify a specific module in Bastille?
[10:47] <Pygi> Horay :))
[10:47] <mwe> Bevin: my apt-file can't find it, suggesting it doesn't exist in ubuntu
[10:47] <Tyrsis> So Breezey should be up to date right ?
[10:47] <ompaul> JoeBlow, have you installed?
[10:47] <mika0800> probably either DNS or the default gateway is missing (I use NAT, so several computers, but only one visible IP from internet)
[10:47] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: yeah you can its pretty easy
[10:47] <Seveas> Bevin: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search $soemthing
[10:47] <Dreamglider> does anyone here use Skype ?
[10:47] <Tyrsis> Horay, the laptop version
[10:47] <mwe> Bevin: what are you trying to do and why do you need that file?
[10:47] <usr13> I probably should just leave it that way, but he doesn't know what root password he used
[10:47] <JoeBlow> ompaul, i missed it in the installin gon thisbox, i have like 100 gigs of free space but its set up strangly through many partitions, to wher ei would have like 20 2 gig partitions, and i have 80 gigs of stuff right in the middle that i just cant loose
[10:47] <mika0800> and, that means a hardware NAT device
[10:47] <Bevin> mwe: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/3.4.5/32/libgcc_s_32.so is a symlink to it
[10:47] <Pygi> you mean Hoary I suppose?
[10:47] <Tyrsis> Yes Pygi
[10:47] <mwe> Bevin: ok ubuntu 64bit
[10:47] <JoeBlow> ompaul, better do it in the morning, but how do u get more then 4 partitions, g parted wont let me
[10:47] <mwe> Bevin: I don't know then
[10:47] <Bevin> mwe: which makes the linker using gcc-3.4 not be able to find gcc_s_32
[10:48] <Dreamglider> i cant hear anything when my friend calls me, where can i setup soundcard ?
[10:48] <usr13> it has a "root terminal"  and I suppose it just sudo's to root, Right?
[10:48] <mwe> Bevin: install apt-file and searh for it
[10:48] <mika0800> I think this whole problem is due to a bug in all 2.6 -series kernels
[10:48] <Bevin> mwe: ok, thanks
[10:48] <JoeBlow> ompaul, better do it in the morning, but how do u get more then 4 partitions, g parted wont let me
[10:48] <JoeBlow> ompaul, yea its installed
[10:48] <Bevin> Seveas: thanks
[10:48] <mwe> Bevin: you need to run sudo apt-file update before it will work though
[10:48] <JoeBlow> ompaul, i have a gig of ram, so it installed fine without swap, and rather fast too
[10:48] <poningru> JoeBlow: create an extended partition
[10:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: Could be either one.  I had a weird problem once where only one computer could access the network that somehow got fixed just by resetting the router. o_O
[10:49] <JoeBlow> poningru, using what?
[10:49] <poningru> JoeBlow: you have to make one of your current partitions an extended one
[10:49] <Bevin> mwe: yeah saveas told me so
[10:49] <ompaul> JoeBlow, fdisk and what you get are is one extented partition into which you drop a lot of others - if your that broken maybe a full reinstall from scratch might be in order
[10:49] <sklav> when you have 1gig of ram swap is barely used
[10:49] <pinkisntwell> I think I lost my /usr/bin/bash, i don't have it
[10:49] <Pygi> freaky: I'll read it tonight or tommorow and respond you then
[10:49] <poningru> JoeBlow: using gparted
[10:49] <ompaul> JoeBlow, wait til tomorrow
[10:49] <sklav> but still recommended for stability reasons i would think
[10:49] <sklav> in the off chance
[10:49] <poningru> JoeBlow: yeah dude wait till tomorow if you are drunk
[10:49] <sklav> that it needs to swap something out of ram
[10:49] <poningru> do some programming though its quite fun
[10:49] <JoeBlow> ompaul, yea lol, i just want to find a way to keep this 80 gigs at the end, and then i can redo everything
[10:50] <ompaul> mit ein karter you can think slowly :)
[10:50] <JoeBlow> ok guys, for reference, tommorrow im serving partitioning questions and advil probably
[10:50] <Tyrsis> When I use ndiswrapper what files do I need ?
[10:50] <mika0800> is there a way to confirm what I suggest: the kernel misrecognizes the 3c509 NIC as 3c905 and load 3c905.ko when is should load 3c509.ko ... and that is why my NIC does not work in any Linux based on any 2.6 -series kernel. But it works just fine in 2.4 -kernel -based linuxes (like Knoppix 3.7, for example)
[10:50] <Seveas> Tyrsis, .sys and .inf files from the windows driver
[10:50] <poningru> mika0800: yeah lsmod | grep 3c905
[10:50] <Tyrsis> Ok how do I install the .sys file ?
[10:51] <Tyrsis> I know how to install the .inf
[10:51] <Seveas> Tyrsis, ndiswrapper -i filename.inf
[10:51] <Seveas> that will install the .sys file too :
[10:51] <Seveas> :)
[10:51] <Tyrsis> ok coolness
[10:51] <Tyrsis> ty Seveas
[10:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: You could read the source code and see if there's a bug... :)
[10:52] <mika0800> poningru: does that mean, that if the kernel misrecognizes my NIC as I just told, then the cmd "lsmod | grep 3c905" will produce output, otherwise not ?
[10:52] <poningru> yes
[10:52] <sklav> mika0800, just insmod the module
[10:52] <sklav> or use autoprobe module_name
[10:52] <poningru> lsmod | grep 3c509
[10:52] <mika0800> 1. Have no idea where to get it and 2. is it in C or C++ ?
[10:53] <poningru> see if that creates something
[10:53] <keshav> i am new to ubuntu and even linux
[10:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: A bit of both, IIRC.
[10:53] <mwe> mika0800: blacklist the wrong module and manually load the right one
[10:53] <sklav> mika0800, if the module is built by the kernel it will work
[10:53] <keshav> can anybody help me with wheres the shell
[10:53] <keshav> where we can work on c++
[10:53] <cj> is there an ubuntu .deb repository that has ethereal and openvpn?
[10:53] <sklav> !openvpn
[10:53] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, sklav
[10:54] <mika0800> sklav: insmod? Isn't that something you can do after install. Will load the module, but then I am left doing all network configuration by hand. If there is any way to force the installer to load the correct module, then the installer will autoconfigure the network. Muc better that way!
[10:54] <sklav> mika0800, during the install do crtl+alt+F2
[10:54] <timfrost> cj, both are in universe
[10:54] <sklav> you will get a shell
[10:54] <sklav> then try insmod
[10:54] <mwe> someone needs to help ubotu get rid of that annoying response :)
[10:54] <sklav> the module
[10:55] <sklav> mwe, its kinda funny
[10:55] <sklav> ;)
[10:55] <mika0800> why insmod? insn't modprobe better ?
[10:55] <Mitch_Owen> Bugger....ubuntu is crashing!
[10:55] <sklav> yes modprobe will work also
[10:55] <mika0800> we are talking about 2.6.10 kernel here
[10:55] <Seveas> mika0800, indeed :)
[10:55] <Falstius> cj, I'm running openvpn on ubuntu.  Its in one of the "normal" repositories.
[10:55] <Korupt> in the forums is there a way to change the size of an image?
[10:55] <Seveas> Korupt, try #ubuntuforums
[10:56] <narles> guys i'm having some trouble
[10:56] <mika0800> "<mwe> mika0800: blacklist the wrong module and manually load the right one" - during the install? How ?
[10:56] <mwe> narles: then ask a question and we'll try to help
[10:56] <sklav> mika0800, if your already installed
[10:57] <narles> when i try to sudo tar xzf blank.tar.gz to my usr/share/themes folder
[10:57] <sklav> its easier to edit the modules.conf
[10:57] <cafuego> sklav: modprobe is far better. In fact, don't run 'isnmod'.
[10:57] <mika0800> sklaw: does the normal installer let me use Ctrl-Alt-F2 during the install? The live Ubuntu does not let me do that !
[10:57] <odat> hi everyon
[10:57] <odat> e
[10:57] <narles> it says cannot open: No such file or directory
[10:57] <sklav> mika0800, it lets me last i checked
[10:57] <narles> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[10:57] <narles> tar: Child returned status 2
[10:57] <mika0800> sklaw: yes, but I plan to format the linux partition and reinstall.
[10:57] <mwe> cafuego: because it fails to load dependencies?
[10:57] <mika0800> So it WILL be a new install then
[10:57] <cafuego> mwe: indeed
[10:58] <kfrag> does anyone have a successful install of the ATI drivers?
[10:58] <sklav> i understand but haave you tried from the running system to load the proper module?
[10:58] <skon> How do I restart the Bastille module?
[10:58] <narles> know how to fix this?
[10:58] <mika0800> sklaw: modules.conf is the plave for 2.4 -kernels. NOT so in 2.6 -series !
[10:58] <mwe> skon: what is it?
[10:59] <usr13> I have this 5.04 system fully updated but also have 5.10 disk and wondering if there's any urgent need to reinstall or upgrade to 5.10 ?
[10:59] <mwe> skon: I haven't heard the concept restarting a module before
[10:59] <Korupt> Seveas, I would but they aren't bothering to answer a simple question and are acting quite uncivil
[10:59] <usr13> I do notice one problem, it seems to lock up after a while, when it gets to flying toaster screensaver.
[10:59] <poningru> Korupt: what are you talking about?
[11:00] <mika0800> I tried to read some documents... if I understand correctly, using modprobe will automatically work out any dependencies modules may have on each other. insmod will not? Right ?
[11:00] <skon> mwe: it's a script that hardens system security, but I changed the config file and it doesn't change the permissions yet. i figure restarting would help, but there is only a module for the bastille firewall
[11:00] <timfrost> narles, is blank.tar.gz in the current directory?  If not, you need to type the full path name
[11:00] <Seveas> Korupt, then ask on the forums instead of irc
[11:00] <narles> how do i do that
[11:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> usr13: You can upgrade if you feel like it - I prefer 5.10 to 5.04 - but there's nothing forcing you to do it.
[11:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> usr13: And if the screensaver is a problem, you can disable it in system -> prefs -> screensaver
[11:00] <blueandwhiteg3> poningru: You said it's easy to use the debian nightlies... I am getting all sorts of non-installable packages, dbus, libhal0, etc...
[11:00] <usr13>  PuMpErNiCkLe, can you name any specivic improvements ?
[11:01] <usr13> or bug fixes that are significant?
[11:01] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: I did what now?
[11:01] <ompaul> usr13, in Oct 2006 you will want to upgrade
[11:01] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: I did no such thing
[11:01] <narles> timfrost, the tar.gz is on my desktop.. what kind of command should i use to extract it to the directory i'm in
[11:01] <ompaul> usr13, it is coved until oct 2006
[11:01] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: dont use debian nightlies on ubuntu
[11:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> usr13: Newer versions of stuff, more polish... nothing spectacularly different.
[11:01] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: dont use any debian packages in ubuntu as a rule
[11:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> usr13: Not like the differences between Breezy and Dapper.
[11:01] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: there are exceptions ofcourse
[11:01] <mwe> Is there a (if not complete) ubuntu hardware compatibility list?
[11:02] <timfrost> narles, try tar xzf ~/Desktop/blank.tar.gz
[11:02] <Seveas> PuMpErNiCkLe, well, ditching hotplug is a major difference :)
[11:02] <sklav> ok im out
[11:02] <mika0800> Maybe it is time to burn my Hoary = 5.04 CD. Just md5summed the .iso and it seems correct....
[11:02] <freak_> mwe, have you ever used pypanel and/or aDesklets in Fluxbox?
[11:02] <mwe> freak_: no
[11:02] <poningru> !hardware
[11:02] <ubotu> from memory, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:02] <narles> ok
[11:02] <sklav> Seveas, thank you for the help
[11:02] <sklav> ;)
[11:02] <sklav> cant live without the skins
[11:02] <blueandwhiteg3> "poningru: blueandwhiteg3: yeah you can its pretty easy" was sent after I asked about using the debian VLC nightly repositories... maybe you were referring to beer + linux, my earlier comment :)
[11:02] <Seveas> jeje
[11:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Seveas: That's for Dapper.
[11:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Seveas: We're talking Hoary/Breezy
[11:02] <Seveas> sklav, http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/4Humans.tgz <-- Ubuntu skin :)
[11:02] <poningru> oh doh yeah dude about beer and linux
[11:03] <usr13> Ok, just wonderdering what advantages I might incur.. but it appears to be a pretty nice system, accept for the fact that one of the screensavers seems to make it lock up... or something locks it up.
[11:03] <usr13> not sure
[11:03] <poningru> because I was making fun of the other guy who borked his system drinking
[11:03] <poningru> so sorry
[11:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Seveas: Dapper is gonna be impressive, though - ditch hotplug, start using hardware rendering for the desktop, almost-complete ntfs support... :D
[11:03] <Seveas> !alcohol and system administration are not friends, you should not mess with system essential when drunk :)
[11:03] <ubotu> that's too long, Seveas
[11:03] <Pygi> Pump: ah well :))
[11:03] <Pygi> lol seveas :)
[11:03] <narles> timfrost, thanks
[11:04] <Seveas> ubotu, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[11:04] <ubotu> Seveas: Are you smoking crack?
[11:04] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: sorry about that dude
[11:04] <powderfinger> !alcohol
[11:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !alcohol
[11:04] <ubotu> powderfinger: No idea
[11:04] <mwe> poningru: have you got any idea how complete that list is? I'm looking for a digital camera and it only seems to list a handful
[11:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !crack
[11:04] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[11:04] <brenda> beer
[11:04] <powderfinger> snap
[11:04] <Seveas> (ok bot playtime is over...)
[11:04] <poningru> mwe: not complete at all
[11:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !beer
[11:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> SWEET
[11:04] <Pygi> Seveas" aj we;; "{
[11:04] <powderfinger> !snacks
[11:04] <Pygi> ah well*
[11:04] <ubotu> powderfinger: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[11:04] <poningru> mwe: most cameras should work in ubuntu
[11:04] <poningru> !botsnack
[11:04] <ubotu> :)
[11:04] <powderfinger> !kebab
[11:04] <ubotu> powderfinger: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:04] <Seveas> powderfinger, STOP
[11:04] <powderfinger> OK
[11:05] <Pygi> do not abuse ubotu anymore :P
[11:05] <poningru> powderfinger: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:05] <mwe> poningru: ok. any standard it should support or something, do you know?
[11:05] <Wenya> hum.. this channel just might be a bit too busy for support...
[11:05] <poningru> mwe: hold on
[11:05] <globe> can I use apt-get to get a c compiler ?
[11:05] <brenda> it works but i want a program ith borders calanders ect
[11:05] <kameron> glove: apt-get install gcc
[11:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> globe: yeah - apt-get install gcc g++
[11:05] <Pygi> globe: you should already have gcc installed
[11:05] <sklav> not to bad Seveas but FB2 still is awesome ;)
[11:05] <JoeBlow> ok guys good night, see ya later
[11:06] <globe> Pygi: I dont....or at least its not in my PATH
[11:06] <kameron> night JoeBlow
[11:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> globe: Plus a few other packages, but they'll be suggested when you install gcc.
[11:06] <sklav> im out
[11:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> peace out
[11:06] <sklav> see u all later
[11:06] <JoeBlow> kameron, werent u trying to get cs:s working in linux?
[11:06] <Seveas> sklav, bye
[11:06] <poningru> mwe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaDigitalCameras is that what you looked through?
[11:06] <blueandwhiteg3> poningru: no problem... any suggestions for the easiest way get my hands on more recent VLC builds? The stuff is out of date on the ubuntu repository.
[11:06] <kameron> JoeBlow, well, it's on my to do list for today, just installed latest wine, havent got to it yet
[11:06] <Pygi> globe: what version of gcc do you want? I wouldnt reccomend 4.0 if your doing anything *serious*
[11:06] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: I would say build it yourself
[11:07] <athlon> why not gcc 4 ?
[11:07] <JoeBlow> kameron, get back to me on that man, i would love to get that working on wine, but for mostly half life 2 dm
[11:07] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: download the latest from their servers and build it yourself
[11:07] <Pygi> athlon: it has problems, bugs and things :/
[11:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> athlon: There are still a few issues with it.
[11:07] <timfrost> globe, the seed package is build-essential.  That package will pull in the compiler and associated tools
[11:07] <JoeBlow> kameron, im working on a mod for hl2 dm, always run, and different weapons, no gravity gun
[11:07] <Pygi> athlon: not really suggested for use in real development projects
[11:07] <kameron> JoeBlow, should be same install for dm and css
[11:07] <kameron> JoeBlow, nice
[11:07] <kameron> JoeBlow, i hate the grav gun
[11:08] <JoeBlow> kameron, yea, so i hope u can figure it out
[11:08] <globe> Pygi, honestly I dont have time to do any C programming on my own.  I am looking for something to complie expocity
[11:08] <blueandwhiteg3> poningru: hmm... sounds like fun. actually, it always is fun... not... 30 libraries to download and compile and install...
[11:08] <JoeBlow> kameron, fin in the single player, but sucks in dm
[11:08] <poningru> brb
[11:08] <globe> timfrost, the seed package?
[11:08] <Pygi> globe: well, you'll be better with gcc 3.4
[11:08] <mwe> poningru: yeah. I don't think it shows a lot though
[11:08] <JoeBlow> kameron, anyway, now im just drunk and tired, later dude
[11:08] <kameron> JoeBlow, haha, later buddy
[11:08] <globe> Pygi, okay, thanks.  apt-get install gcc 3.4?
[11:08] <JoeBlow> kameron, peace
[11:08] <Pygi> gcc3.4
[11:09] <mwe> poningru: I looked at my favorite photo stores home page and couldn't find any of them
[11:09] <timfrost> globe, build-essential is a small package that depends on the compiler and  the other essential packages for development (make, etc)
[11:10] <Pygi> !info build-essential
[11:10] <Mitch_Owen> I am trying to use ubuntus wireless config to get to the internet...but it doesnt seem to be working
[11:10] <Mitch_Owen> does it work with most cards? or no?
[11:10] <globe> timfrost Okay.  does that mean that I need to apt-get build-essential in order to compile ?
[11:10] <tolstoy> Mitch_Owen: I've had good luck with network-manager, though not with this ipw2200 card on this new laptop
[11:10] <timfrost> globe, yes
[11:10] <Pygi> globe: yup
[11:11] <Papoose> how do I access SWAT for Samaba?
[11:11] <Pygi> SWAT = Game?
[11:11] <Pygi> lol :))
[11:11] <Pygi> joking :)
[11:12] <blueandwhiteg3> Any ideas why gnome can't burn DVDs properly? I pop a disc in, all goes well up until I'm about 20% of the way into a burn, then the disc is "done" but most of the data isn't even written.
[11:12] <Pygi> and probably u meant samba
[11:12] <globe> timfrost, thanks...its downloading right now.  Do I still need to get a compiler or does it come with one?
[11:12] <Pygi> globe: well, you have a compiler already
[11:12] <Mitch_Owen> tolstoy, I am using a belkin card right now, in the device manager it is showing up as a linksys card, but it looks alright. I think I set up the network-manager properly but I do not receive internet. Is there anyway to confirm I am config-ing the right card and is there a way to check the connection?
[11:12] <Pygi> just not sure which one
[11:12] <Pygi> I think 3.3
[11:12] <Pygi> but that should be enough
[11:12] <Pygi> !enter
[11:12] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:12] <Mitch_Owen> tolstoy, like the connection quality
[11:12] <kameron> powderfinger, i don't know if you ever found that link: http://www.bay-wolf.com/utility/msd710bd.zip <--- but there's a download for it
[11:12] <B_166-ER-X> !sources
[11:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:12] <B_166-ER-X> !easysource
[11:12] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:13] <Wenya> I'll try asking my question anyway...
[11:13] <Wenya> I installed Ubuntu yesterday
[11:13] <t_cip> I've got an ATI TV Wonder tuner card. Where would I need to look to find the appropriate drivers for it?
[11:13] <Pygi> !Ati
[11:13] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[11:13] <Wenya> and during the installation it didn't ask for root password at any point
[11:13] <Pygi> wenya: ofcourse it did not
[11:13] <Mitch_Owen> it shouldnt
[11:14] <Pygi> welcome Ben
[11:14] <Wenya> I mean, it didn't ask me to set a root password
[11:14] <Pygi> wenya: yes, it isnt supposed to ask you that...
[11:14] <Pygi> unless u use expert mode...
[11:14] <Wenya> um..
[11:14] <Gookie> heyyaaa all
[11:14] <Pygi> ubotu tell Wenya about sudo
[11:14] <Pygi> ubotu tell Wenya about gksudo
[11:14] <Pygi> ubotu tell Wenya about kdesu
[11:14] <Wenya> then what on earth was that root password before I changed it!
[11:14] <Pygi> there was no root pass
[11:15] <Pygi> btw. ubotu told u a few things
[11:15] <globe> Pygi.  Thanks for your help.  When I try an do a ./configure for this install script it says that I dont have any compilers in my $PATH
[11:15] <Pygi> globe: well, does it work now?
[11:15] <dooglus> I just got an error trying to cat a file: cat g ==> cat: g: Too many levels of symbolic links
[11:15] <dooglus> where is the maximum number of symlinks set?  and what enforces it?
[11:15] <Dasnipa> append the directory g++ is installed to in your PATH
[11:15] <Gookie> so my USB flash key wasnt "writable" by ubuntu coz it has this FAT format with windows flavour.
[11:15] <Wenya> Pygi: I tried logging in as root without password, and it didn't accept that one either
[11:16] <] m[evilb> synaptic doesnt work with me
[11:16] <Gookie> How do I format it on ubuntu so that windows can read it too?
[11:16] <globe> Pygi. nope...still same msg.  do  Ihave to add the g++ (4.0, turns out) compiler path to my $PATH manually?
[11:16] <Pygi> wenya: thats understandable
[11:16] <timfrost> Pygi,  the default install doen't include a compiler or any development tools
[11:16] <Pygi> globe: why using 4.0? it has number of problems :/
[11:16] <_jason> ubotu, tell Wenya about root
[11:16] <Pygi> timefrost: oh, yes forgot sorry :/
[11:16] <Pygi> globe: have you apt-geted gcc?
[11:16] <freak> anyone have a good file manager/brower (like nautilus or konquerer) for FluxBox?
[11:17] <freak> or non Desktop environment specific
[11:17] !lilo:*! hlieberman invites interested users to ##copyleft , a channel for discussing how to choose a "copyleft" ( http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/copyleft.html ) style license, as well as for discussion of various copyleft licenses and their interaction
[11:17] <pinkisntwell> do I need a samba server on a windows box to be able to access it from ubuntu?
[11:17] <dooglus> I guess it must be a kernel thing
[11:17] <timfrost> globe, has the apt-get install build-essential finished?
[11:17] <globe> Pygi: yep. it said "0 upgraded, "
[11:17] <Pygi> globe: go to synaptic
[11:17] <freak> pinkisntwell, no
[11:17] <Pygi> and search for gcc
[11:18] <globe> timfrost: yep.  it said that it setup g++4.0
[11:18] <Eleaf> mmm
[11:18] <Pygi> globe: just go in synaptic
[11:18] <] m[evilb> synaptic doesnt work
[11:18] <pinkisntwell> freak: then why can't I access the windows box from ubuntu? it works the other way round
[11:18] <Thorio> well incase anyones interested ive decided to give up on getting the rt8139 based NIC to work, so tomorrow im buying a new network card instead (easier and faster, time is money:) ) so to my question: whats a dirt cheap networkcard that works flawlessly with ubuntu?:)
[11:18] <Blippe> my x.org is going haywire and takes up about 50% of the process time on a 2GHz athlon with Xchat and Konqueror on, what can i do?
[11:18] <Pygi> !enter
[11:18] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:19] <freak> pinkisntwell, did you setup a unrestricted shared folder on the windows box? XP doesnt do it autmoatically
[11:19] <Papoose> Is Samba Included in the latest bersion of Ubuntu?
[11:19] <Wenya> okay.. that is definetly weird, but good to know, that it wasn't a mistake...
[11:19] <Blippe> Papoose yes
[11:19] <tamale> greetings fellow ubuntu users!    would anyone happen to know if some drivers that I found for my networking card (a gigabit linksys EG1032) that are for version 2.2 and 2.4 will work in my  2.6 ubuntu install?
[11:19] <butcherbird> anyone here using openvpn? does it work well connecting using xp? reg network connections wizard?
[11:19] <pundai> ok has the most recent upgrade messed ip wireless
[11:19] <pinkisntwell> freak: what is an unrestricted share folder? I did share some folders
[11:19] <timfrost> globe, you should have /usr/bin/gcc as a link to /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
[11:19] <pundai> im getting "disagrees about version of symbol" messages wrt ieee stuff
[11:19] <Papoose> Blippe is it installed automatically?
[11:20] <globe> Pygi: okay.  is there a reason that gcc3.4 pkg cant be found in apt-get but it is listed in synaptic
[11:20] <] m[evilb> somebody who can help me with synaptic?
[11:20] <Pygi> globe: not sure :/
[11:20] <Blippe> no, but it is in the repos...
[11:20] <freak> pinkisntwell, by unrestricted i mean remote users have both read and write without a oassword
[11:20] <butcherbird> ] m[evilb: what is the problem?
[11:20] <_jason> globe, gcc-3.4
[11:20] <] m[evilb> it just doesnt work
[11:20] <pinkisntwell> freak: and this isn't by default?   See if you get any errors
[11:22] <butcherbird> ] m[evilb: try opening a terminal and typing sudo killall synaptic
[11:22] <freak> pinkisntwell, should, but windows is skrewy so it mgiht not
[11:22] <Pygi> timfrost: and 4.0 has issues
[11:22] <tamale> lol mika.. well, has anyone gotten this linksys gigabit adapter working in ubuntu?
[11:22] <freak> pinkisntwell, sorry :-\, windows blows.... badly
[11:22] <saotome_> very very badly
[11:22] <Pygi> tamale: yes, a lot of people...
[11:22] <tamale> hey at least windows found my network adapter
[11:22] <pinkisntwell> freak: i'm not using windows any more, my brother does
[11:22] <saotome_> i noticed how slow it actually was after a started using gnome
[11:22] <] m[evilb> could take a while, internet also doesnt work, need to install those drivers
[11:23] <mika0800> it seems that currently 2.6 -kernels are not ready for everyone. either you need to be a linuxguru to solve all the problems or then have all the correct hardware for it...
[11:23] <pinkisntwell> all windows got going for it is that it has hardware compatibility and games. oh and gnome's slow
[11:23] <Wenya> I'll come back tomorrow and ask you about how to configure net connections :)
[11:23] <Wenya> but now it's time to sleep
[11:23] <tamale> well, where should I go to get this thing working?
[11:23] <Wenya> thanks for help
[11:23] <freak> finding a network adapter isn't too hard
[11:23] <tamale> am i usin the wrong distro?
[11:24] <] m[evilb> its usb wireless adapter
[11:24] <jacob_> anyone install php on Ubuntu?
[11:24] <freak> but until they make Counter-Strike and World of Warcraft for Linux, im stuck with a computer on windows XP
[11:24] <Pygi> jacob: that's not a problem
[11:24] <jacob_> return to castle wolfenstein on linux rocks
[11:24] <mika0800> 2.4 kernels are not that troublesome with network cards. but then they may have problems with USB-IrDA...
[11:24] <butcherbird> freak: could be wrong but i hear both of those are running well using cedega
[11:24] <freak> jacob_, use debian if you're gonna do a PHP server, its easier and stabler
[11:24] <Pygi> tamale: u can make it work anywhere actually
[11:24] <jacob_> not on AMD64 it's not
[11:25] <freak> butcherbird, but cedega isn't free :-\
[11:25] <tamale> pygi:  care to help instead of simply telling me it's possible? :]
[11:25] <jacob_> PCI express is not well supported in Debian yet
[11:25] <freak> damn, i remember when cedega was WineX
[11:25] <butcherbird> freak: 5 bucks!
[11:25] <Pygi> tamale: well, I never did it :) I just told you that a lot of people made it working :)
[11:25] <narles> how do i install an icon set
[11:25] <globe> timfrost: okay when I apt-get gcc-3.4 it says that I already have it installed.  I do see the link in /usr/bin .  However my $PATH doesnt have a c compiler still
[11:25] <jacob_> Ubuntu was the easiest to install yet, and it's Debian based
[11:25] <freak> butcherbird, 5 bucks a month last i checked
[11:26] <freak> Debian is my favorite distribution
[11:26] <tamale> pygi:  i realize this, but as a person with it not yet working, simply telling me it's possible does nothing but make me a little more upset
[11:26] <freak> probably the best
[11:26] <_jason> narles, just open system -> preferences -> theme and drag the tar.gz file there
[11:26] <timfrost> globe, what does 'echo $PATH' print?
[11:26] <Thorio> i love ubuntu, i run it perfectly on my laptop, but on my desktop i cant get my network card to run
[11:26] <mika0800> linux should come with a virtual machine where you could install all ms-windows drivers for all your hardware. would be a bit slower, but would make almost all hardware compatible. And, with VM's the kernel could control the security aspects no matter what the win drivers might do...
[11:26] <Pygi> tamale: huh, have you tried ndiswrapper?
[11:26] <jacob_> freak, Debian is my favorite also, but I was unable to get it to run with a 939 slot mobo, with AMD64
[11:26] <Pygi> tell tamale about ndiswrapper
[11:26] <alex_> evening, all
[11:26] <tamale> never heard of ndiswrapper
[11:26] <tamale> <== linux semi-newb
[11:27] <Pygi> tamale, hm, do a google
[11:27] <Pygi> !ndiswrapper
[11:27] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:27] <jacob_> anyways.... everything is running great on Ubuntu, msyql, apache2, but I just need to install php
[11:27] <Pygi> or see here :)
[11:27] <Thorio> ndiswrapper could probably work, but its easier just to go out and buy a non-realtek based nic:)
[11:27] <jacob_> any php experts in here?
[11:27] <nightwatch> !hardware support
[11:27] <ubotu> nightwatch: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:27] <Pygi> ubotu, tell tamale about ndiswrapper
[11:27] <tamale> this isn't wireless at all
[11:27] <freak> jacob_, 64-bit technology is sketchy with the operating systems we have right now, the only software developers who ahve outstanding stability is Macintosh(Apple)
[11:27] <mika0800> isn't ndiswrapper for network cards only. But it isn't a general way to make ANY device with windows driver to work correctly with linux !
[11:27] <ompaul> jacob_, #php
[11:27] <nightwatch> !alsa
[11:27] <ubotu> methinks alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[11:27] <Pygi> tamale: ubotu just told you :)))
[11:27] <bimberi> ubotu tell jacob_ about lamp
[11:27] <Pygi> please use "Tell" .... THank you :))
[11:27] <jacob_> Lamp eh?
[11:27] <alex_> just a quick question - when I manually take down eth0 ( sudo ifconfig eth0 down ), it comes back up again after around a minute or so! - something sinister going on, or something being 'helpful' in the background
[11:27] <yatesy> freak: you've gotta be kidding me, 64bit has been around for years and years :P
[11:28] <Pygi> !enter
[11:28] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:28] <globe> timfrost: a few directories.  /usr/bin exists in the list
[11:28] <tamale> this isn't a wireless issue, this is a linksys PCI gigabit ethernet adapter
[11:28] <jacob_> I use a 64bit Unix which is more than 10 years old at work
[11:28] <nightwatch> !intel hda
[11:28] <ubotu> nightwatch: What?
[11:28] <Pygi> nightwatch: don't abuse ubotu and use tell
[11:28] <globe> timfrost: does it mean anything that when I ls gcc in /usr/bin, the link is shown in red?
[11:28] <Pygi> just pm it
[11:28] <freak> yatesy, it has, i know, but Apple is the only company i think that has awesome stability on their G5 processors, windows and linux don't do so well with it
[11:28] <cello_rasp> are there any download managers that allow wildcards? I used to use "free download manager" on windows but i cant find anything as good..
[11:28] <Thorio> tamale am i guessing correctly when i guess that its realtek 8139 based?
[11:28] <jacob_> amd64 kicks ass for heavy loads on the server
[11:29] <powderfinger> tell hel
[11:29] <tamale> Thorio:  How would i know
[11:29] <nightwatch> Pygi: sorry, I dont know the commands..
[11:29] <jacob_> anyways... Lamp eh?
[11:29] <Pygi> nightwatch: k, np
[11:29] <powderfinger> tell help
[11:29] <bshumate> freak, i've been running 64-bit Sun Ultrasparcs with Solaris for about five years now man
[11:29] <Pygi> yes, server has 64 bit since ages ago :)
[11:29] <tamale> this is a link to the product:
[11:29] <tamale> http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Product_C2%26cid%3D1115416906419&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
[11:29] <skon> Someone mind helping me install jre? I did exactly what it says on the wiki, and I'm able to use it via command line but it's not included in the Firefox plugins
[11:29] <freak> bshumate, thats Solaris, not linux or windows
[11:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bshumate: Solaris is in a class of its own.
[11:30] <bimberi> nightwatch: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage :)
[11:30] <ubuntu_> can linux use two swap partitions on different drives at the same time?
[11:30] <jacob_> Solaris = Unix-like O/S
[11:30] <freak> bshumate, Unix kicks ass on 64-bit
[11:30] <mika0800> I just downloaded Ubuntu 5.04... but maybe that was a mistake... Kubuntu 5.04 could be even better... or is there such a thing ?
[11:30] <Pygi> ubotu tell skon about java
[11:30] <Pygi> ubotu tell skon about javadebs
[11:30] <timfrost> globe, yes it means that the link is pointing to a non-existent file.
[11:30] <Pygi> mika: why havent u downloaded kubuntu 5.10 then?
[11:30] <nightwatch> I need rebuild my alsa to get compatibility with my intel hda system sound. I read in some faq in ubuntu website how to do it, but i lost and couldn't find it...
[11:30] <jacob_> Linux can do whatever YOU can do cause it's do it yourself
[11:30] <freak> bshumate, which is what the new macintosh operating system is based upon
[11:30] <bshumate> freak: you said, and i quote "with the operating systems we have right now" is Solaris not an operating system?
[11:30] <Pygi> ubotu tell mika0800 about iso
[11:30] <skon> Pygi, did you not see that I did exactly what it says on the Wiki?
[11:30] <WildZeck> jacob_, tu load apache 2 with php you need not to load php4 package but with apache2 it's name is libapache-mod-php4 or something like that ... php4 is for apache1.3
[11:30] <Thorio> mika0800 if you get it to work, could you send me a /msg ?
[11:30] <bimberi> mika0800: 5.10 is the latest
[11:30] <butcherbird> skon: package name should be j2re1.4 i believe
[11:30] <powderfinger> ubotu tell me about help
[11:31] <Pygi> skon: well, it's kinda crowdy in here :P
[11:31] <freak> bshumate, ok sorry, i meant just the more popular ones
[11:31] <jacob_> Thanks WildZeck that's awesome
[11:31] <Thorio> mika0800 im guessing youre doing it due to the network card problem?
[11:31] <] m[evilb> _jason i got this error "sudo: unable to lookup kyuubi via gethostname()"
[11:31] <globe> timfrost: awesome. how do I fix the link?
[11:31] <bshumate> freak: really? is it based on mmmmmm, say FreeBSD? that's not news to me.
[11:31] <skon> butcherbird, Pygi, j2re1.4 package is already installed
[11:31] <freak> bshumate solaris is too expensive for most home users
[11:31] <Pygi> skon: what is the problem then?
[11:31] <_jason> ] m[evilb, have your recently changed your hostname?  Check if you have any superuse priveleges at all.  Try: 'sudo echo hi'
[11:31] <bshumate> freak: Solaris is free these days dude
[11:31] <skon> pygi: i can view applets in firefox
[11:32] <freak> bshumate, FreeBSD is not as popular as Linux
[11:32] <skon> pygi: can't*
[11:32] <timfrost> globe, sudo ln -sf gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[11:32] <Pygi> skon,just a sec pls...
[11:32] <mika0800> Please do not post links to 5.10 download page! I prefer 5.04, because I want 2.6.10 kernel, not newer than that!
[11:32] <] m[evilb> _jason just installed it today
[11:32] <Pygi> skon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:32] <nightwatch> anybody here have an intel MB with HDA(audio) working???
[11:32] <_jason> ] m[evilb, does 'sudo echo hi' fail with the same error
[11:32] <skon> pygi: thanks, I take a look
[11:32] <freak> bshumate, last i heard it ran on expensive as hell sun microsystems hardware, but, i dont follow up on solaris
[11:32] <Thorio> mika0800 you said earlier that your network card worked with 2.6.10 right?
[11:32] <Pygi> skon: yw
[11:33] <skon> pygi: no, that's exactly what I did already
[11:33] <] m[evilb> _jason i'm in windows now, inet doestn work yet
[11:33] <poningru> !firefoxplugins
[11:33] <ubotu> poningru: Not a clue
[11:33] <Pygi> skon: huh :/
[11:33] <mika0800> I don't want the latest kernel. I want to use 2.6.10, because I believe it is the last kernel where Kylix IDE's integrated debugger works correctly. The kernel developers changed something major after that....
[11:33] <] m[evilb> _jason but other sudo commands same error
[11:33] <skon> pygi: i already did exactly what it says on that site
[11:33] <_jason> ] m[evilb, ok, so right now your ubuntu is on another partition?
[11:33] <huhn_2punkt0> Hmmm
[11:33] <fluvvell> anbody familiar with wpa_supplicant?
[11:33] <Pygi> skon: jre1.4?
[11:33] <] m[evilb> _jason yes
[11:34] <skon> pygi: yes
[11:34] <skon> pygi: and sun java too
[11:34] <bshumate> freak : last you heard is old news man.  solaris has run, and continues to run on cheap x86 as wel...anyways, as far as getting facts straight, i think you're a little off-base, that's all. ;-)
[11:34] <fluvvell> my wireless goes up and down every five seconds
[11:34] <globe> timfrost, do I need to be in the directory that holds gcc-3.4 to do that?
[11:34] <poningru> !firefoxplugins is <reply> if you want to install firefox plugins https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins, if you already have plugins installed but lost them when you upgraded to firefox 1.5 look into !firefox1.5
[11:34] <ubotu> okay, poningru
[11:34] <_jason> ] m[evilb, ok to minimize the amount of restarting you have to do, download 'explore2fs'.  That program will let you read your ubuntu files.  I need you to pastebin the following two files; /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname.
[11:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell ] m[evilb about pastebin
[11:34] <nightwatch> anybody here have an intel Motherboard with HDA(audio) working???
[11:35] <tamale> i can see my linksys EG1032 gigabit PCI card under "device manager", but under "Device Type" and "Capabilities" it says "Unknown"          on the Linksys site I downloaded their drivers and they have a 2.2 and 2.4 folder, but inside these folders are only .RPM's, but ubuntu doesn't seem to know what to do with these RPM files
[11:35] <narles> how do you install gtk+engines
[11:35] <freak> bshumate, well i think you're the only person ive heard of using solaris for jack
[11:35] <mika0800> Thorio: My NIC works perfectly with 2.4.27. But with 2.6.10, the installer leaves the NIC non-working. I was able to get it to work at the wardware level, so ping works and http to LAN by IP's work also. But the public internet still does not work.
[11:35] <skon> poningru, how does that help me?
[11:35] <_jason> ] m[evilb, http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[11:35] <Thorio> ah ok
[11:35] <Pygi> poningru: !firefox1.5 doesn't exist...it's ff1.5
[11:35] <] m[evilb> _jason ty
[11:35] <Pygi> poningru: and don't use 1.5 :)) use 1.6a1 :))
[11:35] <timfrost> globe, no.  When a symlink has no path, that means "look in the directory the link is in".  That is why the target is just gcc-3.4 not /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[11:35] <freak> anyone have a non-desktop environment specific file manager?
[11:35] <mika0800> I mean PINGing PC's on my own NAT works. PINGing any outside on the internet does not work.
[11:36] <Thorio> mika0800 ok thanks.. im gonna try to buy another network card tomorrow instead.. seems faster than waiting on a working version of ubuntu:)
[11:36] <butcherbird> freak: mc :)
[11:36] <Thorio> seems like ALOT of people are having issues with 8139-based NICs though and its a pretty common chipset so they need to figure this one out fast..
[11:36] <timfrost> mika0800, do you have a default route set?
[11:36] <freak> butcherbird, whats mc short for?
[11:36] <iKernel> Guys, I've got a big problem. I can't use sudo. >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 19 <<<
[11:36] <iKernel> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 19
[11:36] <poningru> skon: it doesnt
[11:36] <butcherbird> freak: midnight commander
[11:36] <Pygi> thorio: you can actually make it work...
[11:37] <tamale> Thorio:  How would I know if this card is 8139-based ?
[11:37] <poningru> !firefox1.5
[11:37] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:37] <bshumate> freak: and you're probably the one person i have talked to who knows the absolute least about 64-bit architectures...isn't this just fun? ;-)
[11:37] <mika0800> timfrost: no idea what/how is that set.
[11:37] <nightwatch> where is the hardware compatibility list???
[11:37] <iKernel> So I need to edit the sudoers file, but I can't get into root. Anyway to fix this apart from reinstalling?
[11:37] <bimberi> iKernel: boot into recovery mode and use the visudo command to edit the file
[11:37] <pundai> hi has anyone used the ipw2200 driver here with ubuntu
[11:37] <_jason> iKernel, boot with the live cd and mount the partition
[11:37] <Pygi> poningru: ah, really, it's there now :/
[11:37] <iKernel> ok thanks
[11:37] <poningru> iKernel: why cant you fix it?
[11:37] <mika0800> (sudo) apt-get install mc should work
[11:37] <iKernel> poningru: I just said why
[11:37] <Pygi> ff1.5
[11:37] <Pygi> !ff1.5
[11:37] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:37] <poningru> iKernel: ignore me
[11:38] <tamale> can anyone just tell me if ubuntu is a bad choice for a fileserver ?
[11:38] <Pygi> now you can ask bud anything about network cards :)))
[11:38] <tamale> i can't find any easy software raid management featuereseither
[11:38] <freak> bshumate, dude, 64bit architecture sucks right now, when microsoft gets their heads out of their asses and get longhorn(Vista) out, then64bit arch will be worth the money
[11:38] <whyameye> It appears that the apps I run which use the KDE library are not seeing the fonts that are available to Gnome. Is there a way to fix this? I notice especially with gpdf vs. kpdf
[11:38] <narles> how do i install a new login graphic??
[11:38] <globe> timfrost: thanks a million. I appreciate your patience with a linux newb.
[11:38] <avalost> google gdm themes
[11:38] <freak> bshumate, but until then, most people are running their AMD 64 3500's on the 32bit version of windows
[11:38] <mika0800> well, I will soon test whether is possible during the install of ubuntu switch to another console and then do sudo modprobe 3c509
[11:39] <WildZeck> yes
[11:39] <timfrost> mika0800, are you using DHCP, or are you setting the IP address manually?
[11:39] <insomnd> anybody here familiar with GAG?
[11:39] <freak> butcherbird, know if it runs under fluxbox?
[11:39] <bshumate> freak: you said it and it must be true! and what you're blathering on about now is OT in hear, so whatever...
[11:39] <mika0800> DHCP from my own hardware NAT firewall
[11:39] <timfrost> globe, glad to have helped.  good luck with the compile
[11:39] <globe> timfrost: the ./configure went way past the compiler detection and now it is failing when looking for gtk+-2.0
[11:39] <powderfinger> Is it possible to select DHCP during install?
[11:39] <Pygi> now who needs help with Wireless cards????
[11:40] <tamale>  i can see my linksys EG1032 gigabit PCI card under "device manager", but under "Device Type" and "Capabilities" it says "Unknown"          on the Linksys site I downloaded their drivers and they have a 2.2 and 2.4 folder, but inside these folders are only .RPM's, but ubuntu doesn't seem to know what to do with these RPM files
[11:40] <insomnd> i need an easy to use bootmanager that will allow me to boot from an external CD drive, that doesnt otherwise boot
[11:40] <butcherbird> freak: runs from console so yes
[11:40] <mika0800> Oh, and several people suggest turning off PnP from that 3c509 ISA NIC card. But cannot do that with 3com's dos utilities: thy do not work as they should!
[11:40] <Pygi> bud: read what tamale said
[11:40] <] m[evilb> _jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6818
[11:40] <narles> how do i install a new login graphic??
[11:40] <freak> butcherbird, alright, thanks tons, cuz nautilus doens't agree with fluxbox
[11:40] <insomnd> poningru, SBM seems perfect, however the person i am helping doesnt have linux and is not too familiar with gcc, etc.
[11:40] <mika0800> And, why is it that with 2.4.27 -kernel there is no need to turn off PnP. It works just great leaving the PnP enabled !
[11:41] <timfrost> mika0800, the NAT firewall should be advertising itself as the gateway.  Can you check its setup?
[11:41] <freak> bshumate, does it get you off that you think you're right?
[11:41] <iKernel> Booting into recovery mode doesn't help. I'll need to boot from the live cd.
[11:41] <powderfinger> ALL: Is it possible to select DHCP during install?
[11:41] <pundai> narles, gdmsetup as root
[11:41] <ColonelPanique> hey freak, you clueless microsoft troll, how's about cracking open and chugging a forty ounce of stfu, ok?
[11:42] <_jason> ] m[evilb, one sec on phone
[11:42] <mika0800> timfrost: both Winsows machines and Linux machines with 2.4 -series kernel work just fine with my NAT firewall device.  That would be the best solution !
[11:43] <bshumate> sheesh, rough crowd in here on Sundays! ;-)
[11:43] <huhn_2punkt0> wheres that guy that told me I'd do the server install and then install xubuntu?
[11:43] <huhn_2punkt0> it doesn't work at all
[11:43] <freak> ColonelPanique, how am i a microsoft troll?
[11:43] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: what do you get?
[11:43] <bud_> huhn_2punkt0: whats the problem
[11:43] <huhn_2punkt0> well I did install the server version
[11:43] <butcherbird> huhn_2punkt0: waddya mean doesnt work?
[11:44] <huhn_2punkt0> but I don't get no internet connection
[11:44] <tamale> *sigh*
[11:44] <tamale> i think i'll just go try fegora
[11:44] <mika0800> Someone told me to do server install  as well if don't want the gnome. I will install IceWm instead (limited amount of RAM)
[11:44] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: ubuntu starts up all right?
[11:44] <tamale> fedora
[11:44] <huhn_2punkt0> yes
[11:44] <_jason> ] m[evilb, you can fix your problem by editing your /etc/hosts file.  Change '<IP_ADDRESS> localhost' to '<IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost kyuubi'
[11:44] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: what internet connection do you have?
[11:44] <Darky469> lo all
[11:44] <huhn_2punkt0> dsl
[11:44] <huhn_2punkt0> the thing is it won't recognize the card
[11:44] <timfrost> globe, apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[11:45] <] m[evilb> _jason tried that in ubuntu, but cant change that file
[11:45] <Darky469> anyone  has  experience  with wine ?
[11:45] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: what card? your network card?
[11:45] <_jason> ] m[evilb, however you will need superuser access to edit it.  Since you can't get it, you'll have to boot with the live cd and mount the partition.  Then edit it.
[11:45] <mika0800> of Linuxes, I have had the best luck with Debian Sarge with 2.4.27 -kernel. But with the 2.6.8 kernel you are likely to run into problems with that too...
[11:45] <freak> anyone use aDesklets in here?
[11:45] <globe> timfrost, how does everybody know what these packages are called? is there an apt-get search function?
[11:45] <_jason> globe, 'apt-get search'
[11:45] <huhn_2punkt0> sorry for being unprecise. yes my network card. I'm using a laptop which has a pluginable network card
[11:45] <skon> globe: apt-cache search
[11:45] <diablo69> sup guys
[11:45] <bud_> globe: apt-cache search
[11:45] <_jason> globe,  err oops yeah what skon said
[11:46] <] m[evilb> _jason dont have live cd
[11:46] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: hmmm I'm not familiar with laptops
[11:46] <_jason> ] m[evilb, you can download the iso and burn it, or are you on dial-up?
[11:46] <globe> now that will come in handy! ;-)
[11:46] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: you can try #xubuntu and #xfce, especially the latter
[11:46] <Darky469> who knows  how  to get  windows explorer working with Wine ?
[11:46] <tamale> pygi:  I take it "bud's" not here
[11:46] <testmachine> xfce is great
[11:46] <testmachine> :)
[11:46] <freak> that it is
[11:46] <timfrost> globe, the search feature is 'apt-cache search'.  Libraries are generally llibxx, and the development version has -dev on the end of the name.
[11:47] <nightwatch> hi there I get my mp3 playing in amarok but no sound.. can anybody help me? my sound card is Intel HDA
[11:47] <bud_> tamale: whats the problem
[11:47] <mika0800> Now I will see soon, whether PartitionMagic 8.0 can succesfully move and resize a linux partition or just make a big (destructive) mess of it...
[11:47] <diablo69> I was trying to install webcam drivers last night, for my creative nx webcam
[11:47] <diablo69> and there wasn't a -r option
[11:47] <Pygi> tamale: see? he is here :)
[11:47] <mika0800> talking about ext3 here...
[11:47] <huhn_2punkt0> pinkisntwell: so far it is an ubuntu problem on the whole as I don't know how to install the network
[11:47] <] m[evilb> _jason downloading it now, hope i find an empty cd :)
[11:47] <diablo69> should I just get a logotech
[11:47] <tamale> bud_:  I can't get my linksys gigabit PCI adapter to work
[11:47] <midwinter> _jason, is he in win in which case he could edit it..
[11:48] <bud_> tamale: when you plug it, what lspci say
[11:48] <_jason> midwinter, he is.  I don't know how, you can explain it to him :)
[11:48] <narles> how do i install a new login graphic with a tar.bz2 file???
[11:48] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: can you find a networking applet? one that lets you configure your network settings?
[11:48] <] m[evilb> tell me how midwinter
[11:48] <bud_> tamale: does lspci recognize it
[11:48] <whyameye> kpdf has font troubles?
[11:48] <freak> anyone use ADesklets?
[11:48] <huhn_2punkt0> that's the thing. its the server version of ubuntu
[11:48] <tamale> bud_:  it says "Linksys Gigabit Network Adapter (rev 10)"
[11:48] <bud_> ok
[11:48] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: but xfce is running right?
[11:49] <Darky469> oke,i think nobody has any experience with wine
[11:49] <huhn_2punkt0> the laptop is too slow for gnome and kde, so I have to get an inet connection to get the xubuntu gui
[11:49] <RedStalker_Mike> i want to download all debian docs. what .deb package i must to "apt-get" :) ?
[11:49] <pundai> Darky469, whats your problem
[11:49] <RedStalker_Mike> need heeelp )
[11:49] <diablo69> <--has experience with wine
[11:49] <huhn_2punkt0> so far I got nothing more than a console
[11:49] <bud_> tamale: is there kernel module for that card
[11:49] <RedStalker_Mike> i want to download all debian docs. what .deb package i must to "apt-get" :) ?
[11:49] <diablo69> but not windows explorer
[11:49] <midwinter> ] m[evilb, you can access your linux partition in win right? in which case you should be able to write to that file
[11:49] <tamale> bud_:  how could i find that out
[11:49] <diablo69> I heard that if you get a logotech cam, ubuntu will support it..is this true?
[11:49] <] m[evilb> midwinter no i cant
[11:49] <Darky469> i wanna  use  explorer  under  wine
[11:49] <bud_> tamale: do you have kernel source
[11:49] <globe> how do I add gtk-2.0 to my $PKG_CONFIG_PATH ? there is nothing in there
[11:50] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[11:50] <huhn_2punkt0> well
[11:50] <mika0800> poningru: you told me to use lsmod | grep 3c905 ... but hey: if the kernel tries to load that, but the machine does not have the 905 NIC, will it really load a useless module, or will that result in a failed load attempt, and if so, wouldn't that make it to not appear in lsmod ?
[11:50] <Papoose> Do if I install the latest version of Ubuntu ... Samba is not installed with it?
[11:50] <huhn_2punkt0> I read that
[11:50] <tamale> bud_:  not yet, can i install that off the ubuntu cd?
[11:50] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: maybe it'll help you
[11:50] <Darky469>  or a  other  brownser under  windows
[11:50] <huhn_2punkt0> It tells me I need an inet connection
[11:50] <narles> how do i install a new login graphic with a tar.bz2 file???
[11:50] <bud_> tamale: i think you can
[11:50] <midwinter> ] m[evilb, sorry then nevermind I thought you had gone ahead and got the ext2fs driver
[11:50] <bud_> install it
[11:50] <huhn_2punkt0> but I can't get the inet connection to work
[11:50] <huhn_2punkt0> see it's a vicious circle
[11:50] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: sup man didn't see you hear
[11:50] <diablo69> here*
[11:50] <Darky469> i can use  notepad  already under wine  , but can't find  explorer
[11:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey diablo69
[11:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Wup?
[11:51] <TTilus> looks like my mail doesnt get delivered
[11:51] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: Not shit you?
[11:51] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: so you can't install xubuntu?
[11:51] <poningru> mika0800: could have sworn the module is loaded whether or not it is useful, but you have to ask someone more knowledgable than me for confirmation
[11:51] <TTilus> sudo mailq shows pretty much everything ive sent from this box
[11:51] <Darky469> pundai u have  experience  with it ?
[11:51] <poningru> mika0800: try lsmod
[11:51] <poningru> see which modules you ahve loaded
[11:51] <globe> narles- dbl click on the tar.bz2 file to open it. Its an archive
[11:51] <pundai> Darky469, what is your problem
[11:51] <tamale> bud_:  ok, the ubuntu cd is in, and it came up automatically
[11:52] <] m[evilb> midwinter think i found that driver
[11:52] <bud_> tamale: did you install kernel source of your kernel
[11:52] <timfrost> globe, try re-running configure.  It should find the gtk+ libraries
[11:52] <tamale> bud_:  i'm not sure, I just did a default ubuntu install
[11:52] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: you busy man?
[11:52] <huhn_2punkt0> yes I can't install because in order to do so I need a working inet connection, which I dont have as it wont recognize my network card
[11:52] <mika0800> ok, I will soon boot the machine and try lsmod.... I do not know all about linux modules, but at least in windows I think that a driver module will refuse to load if a corresponding device does not exist !
[11:52] <TTilus> during install i selected smarthost operation and gave my isp's smtp server
[11:52] <Eleaf> lol
[11:52] <globe> timfrost: I did.
[11:53] <TTilus> any suggestions what could be wrong?
[11:53] <mika0800> but I will now go to that bad-luck linux box...
[11:53] <bud_> tamale: how much ethernet or wificards you have in your computer
[11:53] <pinkisntwell> i'm not familiar with your network card... sorry i have not any experience with laptops
[11:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: Not particularly.
[11:53] <tamale> bud_:  just this linksys gigabit pci adapter
[11:53] <priest> In which packages is the program "mail" in?
[11:53] <bud_> tamale: does ifcownfig see your card
[11:53] <pinkisntwell> someone here please help huhn_2punkt0 with his laptop network card
[11:54] <tamale> bud_:  no, ifconfig only shows lo
[11:54] <bud_> tamale: your adapter
[11:54] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: man would you kow by any chance if a logotech cam is supported out of the box on ubuntu, or what cam is
[11:54] <ColonelPanique> priest : mailx
[11:54] <bud_> tamale: try ifconfig -a
[11:54] <priest> ColonelPanique, thanks
[11:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: I can check...
[11:54] <Darky469> pundai, i wanna  use  a browser with  macromedia shock wave from windows in wine  , how  do i make  thgat  possible
[11:54] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanx man, I would appreicate, my box keeps freezing when I try to start it
[11:54] <tamale> bud_:  now i see a sit0
[11:54] <priest> ColonelPanique, isn't mailx installed default in breezy?
[11:54] <ColonelPanique> priest : no
[11:54] <tamale> in addition to the lo
[11:54] <timfrost> globe, try 'export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/include/gtk-2.0
[11:54] <timfrost> '
[11:55] <midwinter> ] m[evilb, http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html by the way
[11:55] <priest> ColonelPanique, why? Is it correct that there is no mailserver either?
[11:55] <edoardo> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[11:55] <Darky469> back
[11:55] <Delvien> ATI driver install to get 3d working in DAPPER = FLAWLESS right from synaptic 3d works
[11:55] <kameron> hey edoardo
[11:55] <ColonelPanique> priest : correctamundo...mailx and postfix were in hoary, but gone ine breezy
[11:55] <tamale> bud_:  are you getting my messages?
[11:55] <ColonelPanique> s/ine/in
[11:55] <Pygi> delvion: hehe :)
[11:55] <Darky469> pundai ?
[11:55] <bud_> tamale: yes on private
[11:55] <Darky469> u still there ?
[11:55] <edoardo> you guys, i've got cups on two gnu/linux boxes. i would like to share printer on box a to box b. i've done this before, but forgot how to. help?
[11:55] <] m[evilb> reboot :)
[11:56] <Delvien> how do i see my FPS?
[11:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
[11:56] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: I tried to install the creative webcam driver this morning, and the guide to do it sucked, so It wouldn't install right
[11:56] <midwinter> Delvien I am surprised if it really is flawless, would be nice though.
[11:56] <Pygi> delvien: what card?
[11:56] <butcherbird> edoardo: well that would be super easy if ubuntu let you use the webbrowser for cups.. forget howto using gnome
[11:57] <tamale> bud_:  I don't think you're getting my private messages
[11:57] <ompaul> !register
[11:57] <ubotu> register is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[11:57] <Delvien> Pygi Ati Radeon mobility x300 128mb
[11:57] <ColonelPanique> priest : it's a pretty controversial thing, but i am not entirely sure why it was removed.
[11:57] <bud_> tamale: yes i can see
[11:57] <globe> timfrost, that command seemed to work (nothing came back).  However the ./configure still fails
[11:57] <Delvien> pygi you know how i show my FPS from glxgears? i forgot the command
[11:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: That's hardly surprising - a lot of people give half-assed support to linux.
[11:57] <bud_> ok never mind
[11:57] <timfrost> ColonelPanique, priest, there has been a lot of discussion about the absense of mailx/postfix in the mailing lists over the last month or so.
[11:57] <Pygi> delvien: huh, no sorry :/
[11:57] <bud_> tamale: is that a wifi card
[11:58] <tamale> bud_:  no, it's a wired, gigabit PCI adapter  Linksys EG1032
[11:58] <ColonelPanique> timfrost : yeah, tell me about it! ;-) ;-)
[11:58] <bud_> tamale: o wired
[11:58] <Delvien> midwinter aye, i installed it right from synaptic, and glxgears is going and going strong, just dont remember the command to show the FPS
[11:58] <edoardo> butcherbird, i remember you gotta do somethin' in cupsd.conf. what is it?
[11:58] <pinkisntwell> how can someone setup his networking on ubuntu if he doesn't have gnome?
[11:58] <Pygi> huh, wired one?? it should work out of the box then...
[11:58] <huhn_2punkt0> pinkisntwell thanks for the help anyways
[11:58] <bud_> tamale: do you have a linux driver maybe
[11:58] <timfrost> globe, there may be other required development packages that are missing.  I don't know anything about the package you are trying to build, so can't help any more/
[11:58] <bud_> Pygi: yeah i think too
[11:59] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: I think if you ask here or the mailing list you will get some answer
[11:59] <tamale> bud_:  yes, i got it off the linksys site, but it says it's for 2.2 and 2.4
[11:59] <midwinter> Delvien, yeah it's something long and stupid I can't remember either
[11:59] <narles> has anyone found a replacement for my tunes redux on linux?
[11:59] <mjbjr> visiting the ubuntu web pages, I see _tons_ of documentation on the documentation and ubuntu community, but I can't find any technical info on 5.10... what hardware is supported (particularly nic drivers), and what additional software is available.  Any got some decent links?
[11:59] <bud_> tamale: have you try googling
[11:59] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: you can always install normal ubuntu (with gnome) and go from there
[11:59] <tamale> bud_:  yes, no luck
[11:59] <bud_> tamale: for a 2.6 kernel driver
[12:00] <joshua> how do i clear my Creative nano, i deleted the folders but the mp3 player only has 53 mb space and its a 256mb :( can anyone help?i used the creative cd software in windows to clean it before but i dont know an app for linux ??