[06:19] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:20] <markuman> apt-cache source gpartet - where i can find than the source???
[06:21] <cheesie> how do i un-install a sudo package on ubuntu?
[06:21] <cheesie> sudo apt-get remove ?
[06:21] <djm62> hmm, that's not a real xserver anyway
[06:21] <nybble> cheesie: unintsall sudo? or uninstall something?
[06:22] <Bad_Magic> djm62: could my X11displayoffset be set too high?
[06:22] <Bad_Magic> djm62: although its at the default
[06:22] <cheesie> a sudo package mybble
[06:22] <Myrtti> uninstall what?
[06:22] <jfarrell> hey all, I am told that I need gtk+2.7, I have 2.6.4 - I am running Hoary, what is the best way to get
[06:22] <cheesie> sudo apt-get remove ? << is it that
[06:22] <djm62> Bad_Magic: no, that's not the error, and it's set automatically (you didn't set it manually right?)
[06:22] <jfarrell> i did an apt-cache search and didnt see it
[06:22] <Bad_Magic> djm62: nope... default
[06:22] <Myrtti> WHY do you want to uninstall SUDO?!?!?!
[06:23] <nybble> cheesie: to uninstall sudo, type 'sudo apt-get remove sudo'...  I can't get it very well
[06:23] <Bad_Magic> er root
[06:23] <GhostFreeman> whats the command to copy a folder over into another
[06:24] <Myrtti> mv
[06:24] <jfarrell> djm62, how is the upgrade
[06:24] <jfarrell> does it tend to break anything
[06:24] <deFrysk> GhostFreeman, cp
[06:24] <djm62> for that matter, make sure you have an alternative way to get privileges, or removing sudo would be disastrous
[06:24] <osfameron> cp -r
[06:24] <osfameron> cp just gives a helpful message like "skipping directory" :-)
[06:24] <nybble> yes, cheesie... if your going to remove sudo, type 'sudo passwd' and set a root password
[06:24] <SQFreak> How do I change the boot order so that the system attempts to mount drives AFTER starting hotplug?
[06:25] <nybble> FIRST
[06:25] <Bad_Magic> djm62: any other ideas? =\
[06:25] <nybble> uh oh... i think i just told cheesie how to bork his system...
[06:25] <djm62> jfarrell: the reports are varied (I'm not running it...I like stability :) ), but running a system with all kinds of strange packages could be painful, and breezy will be stable in less than a month
[06:25] <jfarrell> djm62, is their anyway to get it for hoary
[06:25] <ghtyuu> how can I see what hard drives are visiblt to the system
[06:25] <jfarrell> like is it on multiverse, or one of te unsable repositotires
[06:26] <ghtyuu> *visible
[06:26] <Bad_Magic> oooh djm62: http://www.scd.ucar.edu/nets/intro/staff/siemsen/hints/x11auth.html
[06:26] <nybble> way 2 go djm62
[06:26] <libben> cheesie: or just type sudo -s everytime u wanna be root until u type exit
[06:26] <tritium> or sudo -i
[06:26] <nybble> cheesie!
[06:26] <nybble> are j00 alive?
[06:26] <djm62> jfarrell: you might be able to get it as a backport
[06:26] <Bad_Magic> djm62: could this be related at the start of my session? /usr/bin/X11/xauth:  /home/justin/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored
[06:26] <tritium> jfarrell, what are you looking for?
[06:27] <jfarrell> djm62, i am just trying to install clearlooks from this review, it looks like a cool desktop theme
[06:27] <nybble> uh oh, cheesies dead... or his eyes fell out
[06:27] <jfarrell> gtk+>=2.7
[06:27] <nybble> jfarrel: pm me the link to the review...
[06:27] <djm62> Bad_Magic: try rm-ing .Xauthority, and logging in again
[06:27] <nybble> jfarrell: pm me the link to the review...
[06:27] <nybble> woops
[06:27] <djm62> hey, let everyone see the review
[06:27] <Bad_Magic> djm62: would that hurt my user thats logged in at home?
[06:27] <tommi^> Hi. I would like to build a firewall with fwbuilder. I have successfully done that before to a server using example firewall with modifications to the policies. Now I'm using cable modem so I have static eth0 connected the cable modem box and dynamic ppp0 which uses the eth0 connection. I'm kinda lost here. An example firewall with this type of setting would be perfect. Other comments are also more than welcome. TIA.
[06:27] <moogman> Hello. I was wondering if it is possible to add the contents of a directory to a drawer panel applet, or something similar?
[06:28] <djm62> Bad_Magic: I don't think so
[06:28] <tritium> jfarrell, 2.8.3 in breezy
[06:28] <jfarrell> tritium, so my question was, does the upgrade break a lot of things
[06:28] <tritium> !info libgtk2.0-dev
[06:28] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-dev: (Development files for the GTK+ library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.6.4-0ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 6970 kB, Installed size: 35104 kB
[06:28] <Bad_Magic> djm62: and would i possibly need a second user (ie one that isnt already logged into X) to use X11 forwarding
[06:28] <jfarrell> and if there is an easy way to get it other then upgrading
[06:28] <tritium> jfarrell, nah, it's pretty safe
[06:28] <jfarrell> alright then, I shall commence the download
[06:28] <jfarrell> thanks all
[06:29] <Bad_Magic> gluck
[06:29] <Bad_Magic> =)
[06:29] <djm62> Bad_Magic: nope, unix is a multi-user system, include multiple instances of you with X
[06:29] <tritium> jfarrell, it has a few dependencies from breezy that you'll also need.  You can't install just the one package
[06:29] <djm62> Bad_Magic: although if you feel skittish, you could create a test user and log in as him/her
[06:30] <Bad_Magic> djm62 Xauth is created on login im assuming... and im not doing anything mission critical inside X at home so its not a huge deal if it gets borked
[06:30] <Bad_Magic> djm62: so just rm .Xauth?
[06:30] <djm62> Bad_Magic: well, massacre that .Xauthority and log in again
[06:30] <Bad_Magic> in my home dir
[06:31] <oceandead> ill have to re-add base and desktop metapackages back before i try to upgrade to breezy
[06:31] <ggeller> One of my computers is hanging after installing and upgrading ubuntu (both 5.0.4 and 5.10.0 preview).
[06:31] <djm62> Bad_Magic: sounds like a plan
[06:31] <creart> when i installed Breez, i only made one account... is that account also the root?!
[06:31] <ggeller> How can I diagnose the problem?
[06:31] <goldfish> LOL
[06:31] <tritium> ggeller, at which point is it hanging?
[06:31] <djm62> creart: there is no root login, use sudo to get root privileges
[06:31] <creart> sudo?
[06:31] <ggeller> After running X for a while.
[06:32] <ggeller> Anywhere from a few seconds to several hours.
[06:32] <tritium> ubotu, tell creart about rootsudo
[06:32] <cheesie> !java
[06:32] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:32] <ggeller> It is not just X hanging.  The box doesn't respond to pings.
[06:33] <Bad_Magic> djm62: well its rw------- now... should it be different?
[06:33] <lucaas> creart, yes, "sudo command"
[06:33] <Bad_Magic> and its owned by root
[06:33] <SQFreak> cheesie: I've heard that the package mysteriously dissapeard from that repo...
[06:33] <creart> thx
[06:34] <djm62> Bad_Magic: it can't have loose permissions, or it gets rejected
[06:34] <ggeller> It seems to be OK before I do apt-get upgrade or if I muck around with /etc/rc2.d so that gdm doesn't launch, then run from a virtual terminal.
[06:34] <lucaas> im dist-update'ing to breezy, but im getting lots of: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[06:34] <djm62> Bad_Magic: vamoosh it as root, then re-login
[06:34] <Bad_Magic> djm62: but shouldnt it be owned by the user and not root?
[06:34] <Bad_Magic> id prefer to not have to rm it everytime i want to use xforwarding
[06:34] <Bad_Magic> =P
[06:34] <djm62> Bad_Magic: I think this is a one-time strange thing...
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> trying to get a permanent solution
[06:35] <transgress> okay everytime i view flash now... it locks up firefox
[06:35] <transgress> if i try to install extensions... locks up firefox...
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> djm62: kk
[06:35] <djm62> Bad_Magic: do you get root by doing ssh root@localhost?
[06:35] <transgress> anyone else having problems with firefox?
[06:35] <Slant_Laptop> How do I enable USplash on my breezy box?
[06:35] <djm62> Bad_Magic: it should be owned by the user
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> im not at localhost
[06:35] <Bad_Magic> im remote atm
[06:35] <Slant_Laptop> I just upgraded from Hoary.
[06:36] <tritium> Slant_Laptop, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[06:36] <Bad_Magic> that worked
[06:36] <Belutz> tritium: long time no see, how are you? :)
[06:36] <Bad_Magic> maybe its due to me having two ssh clients open
[06:36] <Slant_Laptop> tritium, Thanks.
[06:36] <tritium> Hi Belutz.  Fine, thanks.  You?
[06:36] <Bad_Magic> let me try logging out totally and restarting... brb
[06:36] <Slant_Laptop> tritium, any other suggestions for post-upgrade?
[06:36] <Belutz> tritium: i'm fine too thanks :)
[06:36] <tritium> Slant_Laptop, can't think of anything...enjoy ;)
[06:37] <DaaJeH> How do you install realplayer for ubuntu?
[06:37] <djm62> !restricted formats
[06:37] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[06:38] <djm62> DaaJeH: have you looked at that link from ubotu?
[06:39] <DaaJeH> djm62: yes I did,but it says to save to disk when downloading it
[06:39] <Bad_Magic> djm62: yay irl it works
[06:39] <Bad_Magic> djm62: nice to use xChat instead of irssi =P
[06:39] <Slant_Laptop> tritium, "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping..."
[06:39] <djm62> Bad_Magic: I can't think exactly what went wrong, but at least it's solved :-/
[06:39] <Slant_Laptop> tritium, where do I download/configure a splash screen?
[06:40] <tritium> Slant_Laptop, don't worry...that's grub talking
[06:40] <Slant_Laptop> Ok, thanks.
[06:40] <Slant_Laptop> I'll give it a whirl.
[06:40] <Bad_Magic> djm62: probably due to a bad command on my part at some point
[06:40] <tritium> You'll still have your usplash
[06:40] <djm62> DaaJeH: can't you save to disk?
[06:40] <Bad_Magic> djm62: do you know if gzip is enabled by default?
[06:40] <transgress> looks like i'll be using epiphany until i can figure out what's wrong with firefox :(
[06:41] <djm62> Bad_Magic: no idea...
[06:41] <Bad_Magic> djm62: kk thanks ill look into it, appreciate the help
[06:42] <DaaJeH> it only gives
[06:42] <afaik> is there a way to apt-get install the flash plugin for firefox? I try to do the installer like I normally do, but it says I need to do it manually :(
[06:42] <apokryphos> afaik: yes
[06:42] <apokryphos> afaik: enable multiverse and install flashplayer-mozilla
[06:42] <djm62> DaaJeH: what is "it"? what file are you saving to disk?
[06:42] <tritium> hello apokryphos
[06:42] <apokryphos> Hey, how's it going?
[06:43] <djm62> DaaJeH: realplayer is in multiverse (for me at least)
[06:43] <DaaJeH> What should Firfox do with this file?
[06:43] <ompaul> !tell afik about restricted
[06:43] <ompaul> izmaelis, Turn that OFF
[06:43] <djm62> DaaJeH: in which case you can install it with aptitude install realplayer
[06:43] <DaaJeH> djm62:How?
[06:43] <DaaJeH> I want the easiest way
[06:44] <apokryphos> DaaJeH: if you've enabled multiverse, enter the command djm62 gave you there
[06:44] <ompaul> afik afik the bot has told you how to install flash and a lot of other toys
[06:44] <djm62> DaaJeH: otherwise https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-4c69034d5cc6530951eee44239cdf2c2a76049c1
[06:45] <djm62> DaaJeH: follow that step, then aptitude install realplayer
[06:45] <DaaJeH> I'll try.Thanks :-)
[06:45] <qEx4z2> hello
[06:45] <Gil> hey this is Gil from foresight - anybody here using the latest ubuntu unstable?
[06:46] <afaik> I found it
[06:46] <afaik> thanks
[06:46] <tritium> Gil, are you referring to breezy?
[06:46] <qEx4z2> i have a problem with firefox. every time i star firefox my machine work slowly ( i m useing breezy )
[06:46] <cheesie> how can i get a list of currently installed packages in terminal?
[06:46] <afaik> heh, anyone here play halo 2?
[06:47] <apokryphos> cheesie: dpkg -l
[06:47] <djm62> cheesie: there are literally thousands, probably
[06:47] <Gil> tritium I guess so - the version that's about to be released in a few weeks?
[06:47] <tritium> yes, Gil
[06:47] <djm62> cheesie: redirect that command into a file then grep the file
[06:47] <Gil> tritium cool - can I ask you something about a few versions it uses?
[06:48] <tritium> Gil, sure
[06:48] <Gil> tritium can you tell me what versions you guys are at for: dbus, hal, udev, pmount and g-v-m please?
[06:49] <apokryphos> Gil: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:49] <ompaul> Gil, what is foresight?
[06:49] <apokryphos> Gil: or, in here, use /msg ubotu info <package>
[06:49] <Gil> ompaul www.foresightlinux.com
[06:49] <ompaul> ahh
[06:49] <Gil> apokryphos great thanks!
[06:49] <Gil> and how is mounting working for you guys generally in breezy?
[06:50] <tritium> Gil, I'll let you try that.  If you have other questions, come back and ask
[06:50] <apokryphos> pretty great; auto-detection as usual (kde).
[06:50] <Gil> it appears latest udev is breaking things with usb sticks, but I'm wondering if that's foresight specific
[06:50] <Echelon-H> Is there a terminal text editor? my linux got smacked and I dont know why
[06:50] <Echelon-H> all my display is faulty, can't run anything, not even console, and got loads of bugs.
[06:51] <oO[NOVA] Oo> echelon-h: um i know of vi.. is that any help?
[06:51] <Gil> apokryphos any way to persuade ubotu to show me versions of breezy packages rather than hoary packages?
[06:51] <Echelon-H> quit
[06:51] <djm62> Echelon-H: emacs
[06:51] <ompaul> Gil, I have no problem with my usb sticks
[06:51] <Juhaz> someone who needs to ask that question probably doesn't find vi particularly friendly :)
[06:51] <apokryphos> Gil: oh, sorry, yeah, /msg ubotu info <package> breezy
[06:51] <vader1102> Hello folks, this Breezy stuff is awesome
[06:52] <Gil> apokryphos thanks :)
[06:52] <djm62> d'oh, I was going to say pico or nano
[06:52] <Gil> ompaul kk thx
[06:52] <ompaul> vader1102, it is nice is it not :)
[06:52] <vader1102> ompaul, it sure is ;-)
[06:53] <Gil> ahhhh as I expected, breezy is using 060 - I have a feeling that 064 is bad :-\
[06:53] <vader1102> it does get hung on starting hotplug services worse than Hoary but other than that
[06:53] <twoSharp> I'm having trouble with the screensaver.. in System -> Preferences there are 2 "Screensaver" entries. The one listed first is the "Screensaver"-entry I know from Hoary, but the bottom one, is a nice clean new one.. I liked the new one better but it misses "Properties".. But back to my problem, I can't update "gnome-screensaver" and after opened the "old" "Screensaver"-entry The computer doesn't lock the desktop after 10min anymore...
[06:53] <twoSharp> What could this and what can I do to fix it?
[06:54] <Dalkus> Hi, my two cddrives arn't being mounted (in /mount/cdrom*) how can I fix this?
[06:55] <tritium> Dalkus, are they mounted under /media?
[06:55] <Dalkus> sorry mount == media
[06:55] <Dalkus> typo
[06:56] <ompaul> Dalkus, are they in /etc/fstab ?
[06:56] <nnonix>   It seems I cannot upgrade ubuntu-desktop with apt or synaptic. Keeps telling its been kept back. Tips?
[06:56] <nybble> smart-upgrade?
[06:56] <tritium> nnonix, dist-upgrade
[06:57] <nnonix> tritium: kept back
[06:57] <Akhen> hello everyone. I was wondering whether anyone here has qtparted running on hoary?\
[06:57] <Dalkus> ompaul, yes
[06:57] <LasseL> Akhen, i have gparted running
[06:57] <ompaul> dalamar, got a data CD anywhere near?
[06:57] <nybble> hmmm...howsw the breeze today?
[06:57] <tritium> nnonix, with dist-upgrade, rather than upgrade?
[06:57] <Dalkus> ompaul, me? should do
[06:57] <ompaul> nybble, a cool 60oC
[06:57] <nnonix> tritium: yes, and its still kept-back
[06:58] <ompaul> Dalkus, pop it in the drive
[06:58] <Echelon-H> can anyone help me? all my computer has gone mad.
[06:58] <ompaul> Dalkus, pop it in one of the drives
[06:58] <Akhen> LasseL, I can't get it to work I can start it, but when selecting my device it just exits
[06:58] <nybble> sweet...
[06:58] <nybble> well, i'll guess i'll upgrade again
[06:58] <nybble> :D
[06:58] <LasseL> Akhen, sounds nasty, I had no problems with gparted
[06:58] <Dalkus> ompaul, same thing. ls on /media/cdrom* gives nothing
[06:59] <Akhen> LasseL, I reckon my partition table is messed up (my disc includes some nbtfs partitions with windowsXP) powerquests PM8.0 won't start either
[06:59] <chrissturm> how can i save only one sheet in oo.org2 calc?
[06:59] <ompaul> Dalkus, ls /media/cdrom[0-1]
[07:00] <Akhen> LasseL, All I want to do is resize an NTFS partition, any idea on how else to do this?
[07:00] <Echelon-H> Please, anyone, my ubuntu has gone mad!
[07:00] <Dalkus> ompaul, all are empty
[07:00] <ggeller> See http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=361344&postcount=17
[07:00] <Dalkus> I have cdrom, cdrom0 and cdrom1
[07:00] <LasseL> Akhen, what does sudo fdisk -l tell you
[07:00] <Dalkus> (no idea why three..)
[07:00] <ggeller> I could use some help here.
[07:00] <ompaul> Dalkus, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:00] <Akhen> LasseL,  it shows me the partitions on my HD
[07:00] <Dalkus> hoary
[07:00] <matucha> I've just installed ubuntu and im having problems with internet connection. I can ping to my ISP, but thats it. Can anyone help me, please ?
[07:01] <tritium> Echelon-H, that's not a very good description of the problem...
[07:01] <ompaul> Dalkus, mount /media/cdrom and then 1 and two
[07:01] <ompaul> Dalkus, mount /media/cdrom[0-1]
[07:01] <ggeller> matucha: Did you set you DNS servers?
[07:01] <Echelon-H> All my view is very funky, It's for sure no longer my xfce, nothing works, can't activate almost a thing.
[07:01] <Gundjah> Hi. After upgrading to Breezy with apt-get dist-upgrade, how can I get rid of the old kernel?
[07:01] <Echelon-H> i think the problem is in the xfce though i cant be sure.
[07:01] <ompaul> Dalkus, anything mount?
[07:02] <matucha> i set up my dns as my ISP in resolv.conf, but it doesnt work
[07:02] <Gundjah> Is there a way to do it with apt-get as well?
[07:02] <tritium> Gundjah, you uninstall it (only after you confirm that the new kernel boots properly)
[07:02] <ggeller> Gundjah: Not apt-get.
[07:02] <tritium> yes, you can apt-get remove
[07:02] <Dalkus> ompaul, I get an error. wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd
[07:02] <Echelon-H> how can i reload or log off and get onto the session?
[07:02] <Gundjah> tritium - it does. uninstall how?
[07:02] <ggeller> You delete the files and edit /boot/grup/menu.lst
[07:02] <matucha> i think that i shoul somehow set up teir gateway as my default ona, but dont know how
[07:03] <tritium> ggeller, no
[07:03] <djm62> Echelon-H: ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:03] <Gundjah> tritium, ggeller - LOL
[07:03] <tritium> Gundjah, apt-get remove <packagename>
[07:03] <tritium> there's also a --purge option
[07:03] <ompaul> Dalkus, are you running that as root?
[07:03] <Dalkus> nope
[07:03] <tritium> good stuff to know, Gundjah.  man apt-get for more info
[07:03] <ggeller> OK.  I think you're right.
[07:03] <Gundjah> tritium - have any idea what-s the packagename for Hoary default kernel?
[07:03] <tritium> ggeller, you never want to delete files that belong to packages.  Let the package management system work for you
[07:04] <Dalkus> same error as root, ompaul
[07:04] <tritium> Gundjah, dpkg -l | grep linux-
[07:04] <tritium> Gundjah, the kernel is the linux-image, and there will also be linux-restricted-modules as well
[07:05] <tritium> make sure that you do NOT remove the kernel matching the version given by `uname -r`
[07:05] <Gundjah> tritium - so grep linux should get them all?
[07:05] <tritium> I'd grep linux-
[07:05] <ompaul> Dalkus, you have me confused, because it should have shouted at you that you could only mount as root or more to the point 'only root can do that'
[07:06] <Gundjah> tritium - right. but should show the complete kernel rumba?
[07:06] <tritium> Gundjah, it should be something like 2.6.10-5, I believe.  You can also remove the restricted modules of the same version
[07:06] <Dalkus> ompaul, hmm - perhaps because I've set the 'user' option in fstab for them? (I'm not sure..)
[07:06] <ompaul> Dalkus, how many cdroms have you actually got?
[07:06] <Dalkus> I have two cddrives
[07:06] <tritium> yes, Gundjah
[07:06] <Dalkus> three cdrom folders in media
[07:06] <Gundjah> tritium - that's it. The default kernel is 2.6.10-5-386.
[07:07] <ompaul> Dalkus, paste your /etc/fstab in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:07] <tritium> Gundjah, okay.  You can remove that -image and -restricted-modules, since you've confirmed that the new 2.6.12-8 works
[07:07] <pc22> how do i check my memo on irc?
[07:07] <ggeller> How do I tell apt-get I don't want to upgrade a particular package?
[07:07] <ompaul> Dalkus, which one of the cd's has the data disk in it?
[07:07] <tritium> ggeller, you can use pinning
[07:08] <Dalkus> ompaul, cdrom1
[07:08] <ompaul> pc22, /memoserv help I would imagine
[07:08] <tritium> Gundjah, good luck.  I'll be away now...
[07:08] <ompaul> pc22, might help - oops hit enter too early
[07:08] <pc22> thanls
[07:08] <ggeller> tritium: Thanks.  I remember it talked about pinning in the Debian book I bought.  I'll go read it now.
[07:08] <Gundjah> tritium - Naturally :-) Tnx. At this moment I only have the base system ("server" install), upgrade just ready. let's see what that dpkg command brings out
[07:09] <matucha> any ideas whats wrong if i can't ping at anything else that my ISP ?
[07:09] <cheesie> where can i get ubuntu linux themes from?
[07:09] <Dalkus> ompaul, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2378
[07:09] <apokryphos> cheesie: /msg ubotu themes
[07:09] <ggeller> matucha: What is in /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:09] <cheesie> !themes
[07:09] <ubotu> well, themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[07:09] <transgress> okay running an strace on firefox i've gotten the following two lines
[07:09] <transgress> gettimeofday({1127236147, 993080}, NULL) = 0
[07:09] <transgress> select(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, {0, 11000}) = 0 (Timeout)
[07:09] <transgress> ^  it hangs doing those repeatedly
[07:09] <apokryphos> cheesie: better to /msg when it's for yourself :)
[07:09] <matucha> nameserver = isp's ip
[07:09] <cheesie> apokryphos- which one should i go too?
[07:09] <apokryphos> transgress: not a good idea to paste in here at all :)
[07:10] <transgress> anyone have a suggestion as to go about fixing this?
[07:10] <transgress> apokryphos: it was two lines.
[07:10] <apokryphos> cheesie: I don't really know about gnome, sorry. I imagine gnome-look is popular
[07:10] <apokryphos> transgress: I know; check the topic.
[07:10] <ggeller> matucha: what does "dig google.com" tell you?
[07:11] <transgress> apokryphos: it's two lines.  i'm not using a god damn paste page for two lines... the bot just spit out 4 lines.
[07:11] <Flying-Penguin> anyone here know abought mouses?
[07:11] <ggeller> Either the nameserver isn't working.  Or your ISP is not acting as a gateway.
[07:11] <matucha> dont know what does dig do
[07:11] <ggeller> dig translates a url into an IP address.
[07:12] <matucha> im now connected alright from winxp
[07:12] <apokryphos> transgress: I don't mind that much; I'm saying you might well have been /removed if others were here/active
[07:12] <matucha> but i can't even ping using an IP
[07:12] <transgress> it's yet to happen.
[07:12] <ompaul> Dalkus, try >>sudo mount /media/cdrom1<<
[07:12] <ggeller> It will tell you if the name server is working.
[07:12] <ompaul> Dalkus,  if that does not work try removing the ro, in fstab
[07:12] <Gundjah> Next... how can I get a bit more useful text mode than the standard whatsit, 80*25 with Grub?
[07:12] <matucha> ok, i'll try that, thanx
[07:12] <Dalkus> okay thanks ompaul
[07:13] <ompaul> Dalkus,  so that is ro, <<<<<<< the comma
[07:13] <transgress> okay this bickering isn't helping me.  has anyone else had a problem with firefox hanging?
[07:13] <ggeller> I wonder if you need to have something like "route add default gw ..."?
[07:13] <apokryphos> transgress: it's a common problem. What version are you using?
[07:13] <transgress> running firefox 1.5b1 ... it works fine... of course there is no install.
[07:14] <transgress> i'm using 1.06
[07:14] <apokryphos> transgress: the one in backports/updates is known to be more problematic
[07:14] <matucha> i did route add default gw isp' ip, but its the same
[07:14] <transgress> not from backports... from breezy
[07:14] <moogman> Hello. I was wondering if it is possible to add the contents of a directory to a drawer panel applet, or something similar?
[07:14] <apokryphos> transgress: ohh, ok. It's working fine here (and has been), though I don't use it much.
[07:14] <matucha> maybe my isp is not default gateway, but what to do then ?
[07:15] <matucha> is there way how to get their default gateway ?
[07:15] <transgress> call and ask matucha
[07:16] <matucha> :) will do
[07:16] <transgress> apokryphos: well mine is hanging after i visit a flash page... or try to install extensions.  strace is showing it's hanging at those two lines i pasted... trying to get the time repeatedly...
[07:16] <apokryphos> transgress: link?
[07:16] <apokryphos> (to the flashpage)
[07:17] <spiral> hi
[07:17] <transgress> apokryphos: any flash page... although i've noticed aeonflux.com and a couple others don't render properly
[07:17] <transgress> but they act cool in 1.5b1
[07:18] <ggeller> I think the default gatway is set automatically if you use DHCP, but you have to set it manually if you have a static IP.
[07:18] <apokryphos> transgress: aha, problems indeed. Check if that's been reported, if not, file a bug report
[07:19] <apokryphos> pretty sweet flash page in full, though, I must say.
[07:19] <spiral> where should I report a dependancy problem in breezy between xscreensaver & gnome-screensaver ?
[07:20] <apokryphos> spiral: I don't think it's a problem; I think it's intentional that there be only one screensaver app installed
[07:20] <apokryphos> happens with kde screensavers too; they conflict intentionally, so they're not both installed at the same time.
[07:21] <spiral> apokryphos: but when I have kde & gnome on the same system..., it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop, & both should be able to cohabit, isn't it ?
[07:21] <apokryphos> spiral: not necessarily, no.
[07:21] <Riddell> spiral: do you know why?
[07:21] <spiral> apokryphos: they did until yesterday...
[07:21] <transgress> apokryphos: k.  i will do that.
[07:22] <apokryphos> Riddell: screensavers
[07:22] <spiral> Riddell: when I dist-upgrade, he wants to update gnome-screensaver, & it breaks xscreensaver, kscreensaver & then kde...
[07:22] <Riddell> they seem to both install here fine
[07:22] <Riddell> (from a fresh daily CD install)
[07:22] <transgress> apokryphos: using 1.5b1 it renders well... but i take it ... you see a big grey box for part of it too eh?
[07:22] <apokryphos> yes
[07:22] <spiral> Riddell: have you got kde or just kubuntu-desktop ?
[07:22] <leopard> Does mirrormax have a breezy-extras universe and multiverse?
[07:22] <Riddell> spiral: just kubuntu-desktop
[07:23] <apokryphos> Riddell: installing gnome-screensavers tries to remove kdescreensavers
[07:23] <spiral> Riddell: 'get the problem with full kde, not kubuntu-desktop, sorry
[07:23] <apokryphos> whoop, no trailing s on both
[07:24] <apokryphos> Yes, that's it
[07:24] <apokryphos> ubuntu-desktop depends on gnome-screensaver, which conflicts with kdescreensaver (which kubuntu-desktop brings in)
[07:25] <Riddell> kscreensaver-xsavers
[07:25] <apokryphos> transgress: it works perfectly in Konqueror of course 8)
[07:25] <spiral> Riddell: yeah, it's it
[07:25] <enyc> erm
[07:25] <enyc> can ubuntu effecticely be switched <> kubuntu  or not ?
[07:26] <apokryphos> enyc: of course, yes.
[07:26] <Goshawk> hi
[07:26] <transgress> apokryphos: yeah i noticed that... but konq acts as a PITA sometimes.
[07:26] <spiral> enyc: normally you just have to install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[07:26] <Riddell> ogra: why does gnome-screensavers conflict with xscreensavers?
[07:26] <Goshawk> upgrading from hoary to breezy rhythmbox do no recognise pls files
[07:26] <enyc> spir: aaaaaaah thats really useful to know.. do you hvaeto change respoistories tec. all the same?
[07:26] <Goshawk> can someone conferm it?
[07:26] <psusi> from my research, it seems that to get ubunto to access my SATA RAID volume, I need to use mdraid to configure the kernel mapper to access the volume, then install.  How can I modify the initrd during installation so that mdraid gets run during boot up so the kernel can mount the root filesystem on the raid volume?
[07:26] <spiral> enyc: not at all, same repo
[07:27] <ogra> Riddell, because they clash
[07:27] <transgress> that's odd about the screensavers... i'm running kubuntu and ubuntu desktop ... both packages are installed and not conflicting
[07:27] <spiral> transgress: if you install kde package, it will conflict :-P
[07:27] <enyc> spir: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah thats handy ;p
[07:27] <ogra> Riddell, you cant run both daemons
[07:27] <enyc> spir: just the kubuntu cd has different stuff to the ubuntu cd  on the cd an dinstalle kubuntu-desktop instead o ubuntu-desktiop
[07:27] <transgress> spiral: ah i see
[07:27] <enyc> spir: I get it now ;p
[07:29] <FR500> hello
[07:29] <apokryphos> hi
[07:29] <spiral> ogra: yeah, I don't wanna run both, just one when I use kde, and the other when I use gnome...
[07:29] <FR500> i forced depends installing a package, it works well but synaptic marks it as broken, anyway to override it
[07:29] <FR500> ?
[07:30] <ogra> spiral, i have no clue about kde's screensaver...
[07:31] <spiral> it worked nicely until yesterday, so I suppose this might be possible
[07:32] <transgress> okay and when i try installing an extension for firefox i get this:
[07:32] <transgress>  read(4, 0xbfb1f3df, 1)                  = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:33] <transgress> it hangs doing that... so gettime and read are hanging... should i report these as bugs or am i the only this is happening to?
[07:33] <psusi> from my research, it seems that to get ubunto to access my SATA RAID volume, I need to use mdraid to configure the kernel mapper to access the volume, then install.  How can I modify the initrd during installation so that mdraid gets run during boot up so the kernel can mount the root filesystem on the raid volume?
[07:34] <Riddell> spiral: I could remove kscreensaver-xsavers from the kdeartwork depends to fix the issue
[07:34] <ogra> spiral, i wouldnt have added a conflicts to the package if it would work nicely...
[07:34] <Goshawk> who here is using rythmbox on breezy?
[07:34] <Goshawk> s/rythmbox/rhythmbox
[07:34] <enyc> psus: im not sure ;p
[07:34] <ogra> Riddell, what is in kscreensaver-xsavers ?
[07:34] <enyc> psus: erm.. this is a hardware controller that handles all the raid functions [?]
[07:35] <apokryphos> Riddell: I think it would be nice to have them both installed at once
[07:35] <enyc> psus: or using the  linux 'md' driver ?
[07:35] <spiral> ogra: kscreensaver-xsavers            - KDE hooks for standard xscreensavers
[07:35] <ogra> Riddell, so thats the daemon ? or are that the hacks ?
[07:35] <ogra> Riddell, note that all hacks moved to xscreensaver-data
[07:36] <psusi> enyc: no, not md... it's a hardware fakeraid setup
[07:36] <spiral> ogra: I don't think it's the daemon
[07:36] <psusi> i.e. the bios writes tables to the disk and handles int 13 to access the raid volume
[07:36] <enyc> psus: aah, like, where there is a BIOS on the hardware that
[07:36] <psusi> so you can boot from it
[07:36] <enyc> psus: aah ok
[07:36] <ogra> spiral, then there shouldnt be any problem
[07:36] <psusi> it seems that for linux to access the raid volume, you have to use dmraid to parse the bios table and configure the kernel mapper device to access the raid volume
[07:36] <spiral> ogra: yeah, tell this to apt then ? :-P
[07:36] <ogra> the hacks are independent from the daemon
[07:36] <enyc> psus: sound complicated
[07:37] <psusi> only ubunto doesn't really support that... so I think I have to manually run dmraid then install to the raid volume
[07:37] <enyc> psus: Ill just stick to using my DAC960 cards or Linux-MD for RAID ;-)
[07:37] <enyc> psus: sure...
[07:37] <psusi> but then when the kernel goes to boot up, the initrd needs to run dmraid to access the raid
[07:37] <pc22> how can my network print my ubuntu machines?
[07:37] <psusi> and I'm not sure how to modify the initrd during ubuntu setup
[07:37] <enyc> psus: have you considered installing on a seaprate disk and settuing up the raid for /home and linking /var/spool onto that?
[07:37] <ogra> spiral, gnome-screensaver doesnt conflict with anything in kde... only with the old xscreensaver package we'll throw away once we do the final switch to gnome-screensaver
[07:37] <enyc> pc22: you mean print TO ubuntu machines?
[07:38] <psusi> don't have a seperate disk
[07:38] <enyc> psus: im sorry, I fully understand what you are saying but I dont have the answer ;p
[07:38] <pc22> yeah
[07:38] <psusi> heh...
[07:38] <enyc> pc22: first, get printing working to a local printer on the ubuntu machine (easy easy)
[07:38] <spiral> so this should be fixed when kscreensaver packages will depend of gnome-screensaver ??? gahhh ?
[07:39] <spiral> 've gotta go... cya
[07:39] <ogra> spiral, why shoud it depend on gnoem stuff ?
[07:39] <pc22> enyc, its done. i have other ubuntu and windows machine too
[07:39] <ogra> *gnome
[07:39] <enyc> pc22: then, modify /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[07:39] <spiral> ogra: because it now depends on xscreensaver...
[07:39] <ogra> why that ?
[07:39] <pc22> how do i do it?
[07:39] <enyc> pc22: change 'Listen <IP_ADDRESS>:631' in that file, to say 'Listen <IP_ADDRESS>:631'
[07:39] <pc22> im a beginner
[07:39] <FR500> i forced depends installing a package, it works well but synaptic marks it as broken, anyway to override it
[07:39] <FR500> ?
[07:39] <enyc> pc22:  'sudo nano /etc/cups/cupsd.conf'
[07:39] <spiral> ogra: don't know, & I've got to go... I'll come back soon
[07:39] <enyc> pc22: ill write to you in private msg ;p hangon
[07:39] <glyph> If I were foolish enough to try breezy, where would I go to discuss problems with it?
[07:40] <aleitner> when I plug a usb joystick into a hoary system, is it supposed to just work (because here nothing happens) or do i have to do something manually?
[07:40] <Bad_Magic> complete newb question but is there a way to break away from a process run in a terminal w/o suspending it?
[07:40] <glyph> Suspend-to-disk appears to be broken, and it wasn't yesterday.
[07:41] <[LethAL] > glyph, YOu'd come back here ;)
[07:41] <glyph> [LethAL] : OK.  So, I'm here :)
[07:41] <[LethAL] > :D
[07:41] <aleitner> Bad_Magic: CTRL-Z and then enter the command 'bg'
[07:41] <Bad_Magic> nice
[07:41] <glyph> [LethAL] : I'm running breezy on a laptop, and suspend-to-disk is broken.
[07:41] <aleitner> Bad_Magic: or run it with the command 'nohup'
[07:42] <Bad_Magic> ie xchat nohup?
[07:42] <[LethAL] > glyph, I know nothing about power-related stuffs, sorry
[07:42] <nightswim> nohup xchat
[07:42] <Bad_Magic> gotcha
[07:42] <glyph> it was working like a charm yesterday.  Today, kern.log complains that swsusp "can't find swap file, try swapon -a", despite the fact that swapon -s clearly shows the swap partition is being used, and is listed as resume= on my grub boot line
[07:42] <Bad_Magic> also, do you need to restart the sshd when you edit sshd_config or will a simple reconnect do?
[07:43] <_maney> qt2: why does it take forever (minute or more) for a USB stick to be accessible?  What's it doing, virus-scanning every byte of the device?  :-)
[07:43] <_maney> err, I'm sure I typed "Q:" there...
[07:44] <glyph> Through some kind of insane miracle though, suspend-to-*ram* works
[07:44] <qt2> _maney: its auto-nick-complete. lol.
[07:45] <_maney> qt2: hmmm, thought that only bit if I hit tab...
[07:45] <_maney> qt2: did it do it again?
[07:45] <qt2> _maney: its an option somewhere i believe.
[07:45] <_maney> oh.... server-side?  didn't show in the typer.  okay...
[07:46] <[LethAL] > _maney, no, it's in the client
[07:47] <Bad_Magic> is there anyway to reduce the lag on X11 forwarding? (compression specifically)
[07:48] <darkheart> Bad_Magic Maybe try FreeNX?
[07:48] <eSPete> when i try to bunr a cd with gnomebaker, i get an error saying somthing about access to fstab and something about mounting, how do i fix this?
[07:48] <Bad_Magic> i think theres a compression option in sshd
[07:48] <_maney> so anyway, does anyone else notice it taking a really long time before you get more than an empty file-browser-ish window after plugging a USB memory stick in?  It's not stick-specific, but it might be worse on this machine than others.  it doesn't appear to be a delay in the recognition or mounting per se - shows up in mount long before the content is listed in the browser
[07:49] <darkheart> Bad_Magic If you haven't tried, freenx, I would suggest it.
[07:49] <Bad_Magic> ill look at it, thanks
[07:50] <_maney> LethAL: thought i had that configured to use tab.  (I will *not* think about writing yet another IRC client.  Not.  Not, not not.)
[07:51] <[LethAL] > _maney, It's either
[07:53] <_maney> [L: hah, is that the switch?
[07:53] <_maney> yes!
[07:53] <tommi^> Hi. Sound configuration problems: I can hear everything just fine: multiple apps can play at the same etc. but I can't record. For example audacity says: "There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer." vumeter -r doesn't show anything.
[07:53] <Flying-Penguin> can anyone help me get my Intellimouse Explorer 2.0 to work?
[07:53] <[LethAL] > Woah... phreaky... Wireless Link keeps going down from 100% to ~60%
[07:53] <butcherbird> Flying-Penguin, well..I cant
[07:55] <enntee> Hello. I'm thinking about getting a laptop, and it MUST run Ubuntu (and do wi-fi)... Anyone have any experience or links for which laptops work well and which don't?
[07:56] <enyc> flyi: you dont need to do anythign to make it work rally, you just connect it and boot ;-)
[07:57] <pkern> Were there big changes in d-i from warty to breezy or could one install breezy with the warty disk?
[07:57] <butcherbird> Flying-Penguin, some of the buttons not working or can you not use the mouse at all?
[07:58] <[FiDO] > I'm having some problems with ubuntu hanging overnight
[07:58] <[FiDO] > I have to come in the next day at work and restart it
[07:58] <[FiDO] > its running on an IBM eServer
[07:58] <_n00blar_> after the latest update, Is xscreensaver locking up your machine?
[07:59] <[FiDO] > umm I think I have screensaver turned off
[07:59] <_n00blar_> [FiDO] , I think I will do same or just set it to blank...after the latest update it locks up your machine badly.
[08:00] <_n00blar_> I can't pinpoint which screensaver does it; since I had it set to random, but it appears that its more than one that locks up Ubuntu
[08:00] <[FiDO] > ok
[08:00] <[FiDO] > I'll check on that
[08:00] <lucaas> should dist-upgrade say anything when its done, or just stop after the last package?
[08:01] <_n00blar_> And nothing in the logs since I have to press On/Off button to get back on
[08:01] <lucaas> bc, i got: Setting up gnome-system-tools (1.4.0-0ubuntu4) ...
[08:01] <lucaas> lucas@ubuntu:~$
[08:01] <lucaas> (end)
[08:01] <elad`> I really need to get out of X.
[08:01] <jmain> How do you get GDM to launch programs at startup?
[08:01] <elad`> Well, not really. But I really want to.
[08:03] <elad`> So, how do I get out of X. Get me something to type at a shell.
[08:03] <elad`> Is terminating X's PID unclean?
[08:03] <darkheart> elad` Try 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[08:03] <Bicchi> I am new to gnome but not to kde. Is there another option to nautilus when it comes to file browsing?
[08:04] <elad`> Why does sudo require a passowrd different than su's?
[08:04] <jmain> I have installed Fluxbox and would like to startup some Slit apps on startup.  They say to use a .xsession but GDM seems to ignore it
[08:04] <Amaranth> !sudo
[08:04] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> jmain:  you need to check the fluxbox docs.. supposubly - it can save a session then restart it.
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> jmain:  if you make a .xsession i THINK the gdm xsession login entry may start it.
[08:05] <jmain> That doesn't appear to work
[08:05] <elad`> What? Isn't that effectively making all users (or the first one - whatever) root?
[08:06] <Amaranth> elad`: ctrl-alt-f1 will get you to a console, ctrl-f7 will get you back to X from that console
[08:06] <lucaas> ok, im going to restart and hope it works
[08:06] <jmain> Unless there is something I need to add to the gdm xsession file.
[08:06] <elad`> Amaranth, no, this isn't working.
[08:06] <elad`> I'll try the sudo gdm stop as soon as I get an answer to my other questions.
[08:06] <Bicchi> How can i right click on a file an open it as root?
[08:07] <Amaranth> elad`: err, the only times that hasn't worked for me was when the keyboard config was broken in breezy and when a bad driver made switching to a console corrupt the display
[08:07] <Amaranth> elad`: what other questions?
[08:07] <elad`> Amaranth, how did you fix it the first time?
[08:07] <butcherbird> Bicchi, not what you had in mind im sure but midnight commander isnt a bad file manager
[08:07] <Amaranth> elad`: i don't remember, this was back when breezy was very much broken
[08:07] <elad`> The other question was the sense of making the normal user a root.
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> jmain:  no clue there. i normally manually make a entry in GDM just to start fluxbox and any other variant window managers i use
[08:07] <Amaranth> elad`: you aren't root unless you use sudo
[08:08] <elad`> But I use the same password, so I'm effectively root.
[08:08] <Amaranth> elad`: it makes it easy to use but still secure, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo explains
[08:08] <elad`> Well, let's try the gdm stop. How do I get back after that, btw?
[08:09] <winkle> what's the way to go to get the nvidia driver working in breezy?
[08:09] <xkpe_> hi
[08:09] <Amaranth> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop will stop gdm and X, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start will start it
[08:09] <jmain> Dr_Willis: I have no issue getting GDM to launch fluxbox.  I would like it to start fluxbox then several other apps during startup
[08:09] <darkheart> elad` You misunderstand sudo. It's a tool to allow user some root privileges. If the password was the same as root, then it defeats the purpose.
[08:09] <elad`> elad@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found
[08:09] <Amaranth> hrm
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> jmain:  fluxbox is SUPPOSED to some how save what you got started. i saw it mentioned in the fluxbox docs just last night
[08:09] <darkheart> elad` To get back, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[08:09] <xkpe_> has anyone tryed to play nibbles over a network ?
[08:09] <Amaranth> this would be easier if i wasn't on a windows machine right now :)
[08:10] <pkern> Is there any breezy netinst image?
[08:10] <Uruclef> hi all!
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> jmain:  so you some how start the stuff.. then  supposiuly fluxbox writes some config file in .fluxbox i think that saves/rembers it all.
[08:10] <xkpe_> the option to create a server is disabled on my computer :/
[08:10] <elad`> elad@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[08:10] <elad`>  * Stopping K Display Manager...
[08:10] <elad`>  not running/etc/init.d/kdm: line 106: kill: (5907) - Operation not permitted
[08:10] <elad`> elad@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[08:10] <elad`> crap
[08:10] <elad`> I was going to cut the <enter>s
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> elad`:  not that would of really told us much either. :P
[08:11] <Uruclef> guys, I need a hand if you can :)
[08:11] <freddy_s> Hi, I have an Intel manufactured integrated WLAN card, I'm having problems to connect to wireless networks... can anyone help me?
[08:11] <darkheart> elad` What WM do you use?
[08:11] <freddy_s> I'm on a laptop by the way if it's any use
[08:12] <seth_k> elad`, you just forgot the sudo on that kdm stop command
[08:12] <darkheart> elad` Do you use a display manager?
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> freddy_s:  time to do some googling :P see if other disrtos/people with same laptop have gotten it working.
[08:12] <Uruclef> I neend a hand with gdesklets
[08:12] <Uruclef> I googled but found nothing useful :/
[08:12] <Amaranth> Seveas: ...
[08:13] <xkpe_> has anyone seen my question?
[08:13] <freddy_s> Well that's why I came here... I have tried to google it but nothing works
[08:13] <Amaranth> Seveas: it's generally a good idea to give them a warning first
[08:13] <Seveas> it was the 2nd time...
[08:13] <Seveas> plus mute evading...
[08:13] <jadedstar> Amaranth: he was pasting earlier
[08:14] <jadedstar> Amaranth: then evaded ban
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> freddy_s:  nothing works as in "their suggestions" dont work.. or some parts of it dont work... or....... cant find any info at all?
[08:14] <Amaranth> ah
[08:14] <jadedstar> Seveas: got your back, guess it pays to sit here for a few hours lol :-)
[08:15] <Uruclef> Guys, can you help me with gDesklets plz? When I run one, I get a blank window
[08:16] <pkern> Any netinst image available for Breezy Preview?
[08:16] <_n00blar_> Woah, I just my ATI drivers to properly work on Ubuntu..at least that's what fglrxinfo says. Anyone knows of a game that I can download to test OpenGL drivers?
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> tuxracer
[08:16] <Bicchi> How can i right click on a file an open it as root? for example i have a link to synaptic but its telling me to open it as root instead.
[08:17] <pkern> _n00blar_: glxgears
[08:17] <bpf> when I run glxgears in breezy, I don't get any text output of the fps, just a window with the gears in it
[08:17] <seth_k> Seveas, regarding that e-mail from you re: previously approved members, any idea on a timeframe for poking those through?
[08:17] <ompaul> Bicchi, sudo <command>
[08:17] <pkern> elad`: You shouldn't evade bans.
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> Bicchi:  not very easially that i can think of
[08:17] <seth_k> bpf, known bug
[08:17] <freddy_s> i couldn't find anyone with the same problem as me, but now now i think i found something
[08:17] <creart> when installing with a script, do i then get a confirmation notice or something, when succesfull?!
[08:17] <bpf> thx
[08:17] <_n00blar_> pkern, yeah that comes up nicely, but just wanted to test it with a game that can 'push' the drivers
[08:17] <ompaul> !tell Bicchi about root
[08:17] <FlyingSquirrel32> I just installed glade but when I try to build the source code for my ui it complains that I don't have glade-- where can I get this?
[08:17] <Seveas> seth_k, I'm waiting for the replies and give mako the list at the next CC meeting
[08:18] <pkern> _n00blar_: Then tuxracer probably yes ;)
[08:18] <Seveas> so exactly one week from now it'll be taken care of i suppose
[08:18] <seth_k> Seveas, thanks
[08:18] <Amaranth> FlyingSquirrel32: you have the -dev package?
[08:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> yup installed from synaptic.
[08:18] <_n00blar_> pkern, cool, then I'll install it, ty
[08:18] <pkern> Ok, then I'll just use warty to install breezy ):
[08:18] <winkle> nvidia driver seem broken in breezy, worked fine in hoary
[08:18] <pkern> winkle: Bug in linux-restricted-modules
[08:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> Right now I have glade-gnome and glade-gnome-2
[08:19] <pkern> winkle: Edit lrm-manager and replace ld with ld_static
[08:19] <winkle> pkern: thanks
[08:19] <FlyingSquirrel32> before I had glade and glade-2 pkg's and had the same issue
[08:19] <pkern> winkle: I really hope that they fix it in the final release. Took quite some time to track it down.
[08:19] <freddy_s> Ahh Tuxracer :) that reminds me, the sound doesn't work for me while playing tuxracer: "Warning: Couldn't set 22050 Hz 16-bit audio
[08:19] <freddy_s>   Reason: No available audio device"
[08:19] <TMM> hey all
[08:20] <erich> How do I re-enable ctrl+alt+f1 etc. in Ubuntu breezy?
[08:20] <Amaranth> FlyingSquirrel32: libglade2-dev
[08:20] <TMM> can someone tell me what version of X is in ubuntu breezy now? I got the feeling that it was a 7.0 prerelease, but the server reports itself as 6.8.2
[08:20] <Amaranth> erich: you have keyboard-config installed?
[08:20] <TMM> because of the new way of packaging it that is
[08:20] <FlyingSquirrel32> Amaranth: thanks, but that's there too.
[08:20] <Seveas> TMM, ii  xserver-xorg   6.8.2-67       the X.Org X server (dummy package)
[08:21] <TMM> Seveas, yeah, I got that... I was just wondering if it was a cvs prerelease or something, because of the new way of packaging it
[08:21] <jadedstar> lol, comical response from ubotu... NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, jadedstar
[08:21] <Amaranth> TMM: The server is 6.8.2 with the modular bits (i think daniels was using us as a guinea pig for the 7.0.0 xserver) and the rest is a bit of 6.8.2 and a bit of 7.0.0, afaik
[08:21] <jadedstar> i think it needs a course on spelling :-)
[08:21] <TMM> Amaranth, ahh, so no EXA yet?
[08:21] <Amaranth> FlyingSquirrel32: i'm out of ideas
[08:22] <Amaranth> TMM: nope, not that exa is very useful right now
[08:22] <Uruclef> guys
[08:22] <Uruclef> can you give a hand me too please?
[08:22] <TMM> Amaranth, too bad, I wanted to test it :)
[08:22] <Uruclef> I need a little help with gdesklets
[08:22] <FlyingSquirrel32> Amaranth: Me too. I guess I'll just install it old school ;)
[08:23] <erich> Amaranth: xkeyboard-config? yes.
[08:23] <Amaranth> erich: that's the only voodoo trick i can remember from back when i was having problems, sorry
[08:24] <mdz> pkern: yes, there is
[08:24] <Uruclef> My problem is that when I start a gdesklet, al I get is an empty window
[08:24] <Uruclef> I tried to look around but found nothing :/
[08:24] <erich> Amaranth: but reinstalling it gave me a trail... apparently we have the old "replacing directories by files" problem...
[08:24] <Uruclef> any ideas?
[08:24] <Amaranth> erich: ook, that one
[08:25] <Kamion> pkern: but any netinst-a-like image will have to download most of that 700MB anyway
[08:25] <pkern> mdz: Where could I get it? I thought of something which loads most of the debs from the net.
[08:25] <Kamion> pkern: so you don't particularly gain much
[08:25] <Amaranth> erich: appearently a lot of magic went into making that package work from a hoary upgrade and work with a clean install of breezy, maybe it broke
[08:26] <erich> Not sure if the box was a hoary before I upgraded...
[08:26] <pkern> Kamion: Well, it's a prerelease so I probably wouldn't use it later one. It would save me time because I could burn it now and run the fetch tonight.
[08:26] <Kamion> pkern: still, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/; burn mini.iso from there if you want to boot from CD
[08:26] <Uruclef> -_- ok, thank you anyway
[08:26] <Uruclef> bye, have a nice talk
[08:26] <pkern> Kamion: Does it load the installer from the internet then or only from local TFTP?
[08:26] <erich> Amaranth: anyway, rm -r /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc and then reinstalling that package or so helped.
[08:26] <Kamion> pkern: mini.iso has the kernel and enough of the installer to get started; it gets the rest from the Ubuntu archive
[08:27] <pkern> Kamion: Thanks, that's exactly what I need
[08:27] <Kamion> pkern: the other images in that directory are if you want to do TFTP stuff
[08:27] <drelle_work> i currently use suse 9.3... what advantage would there be to changing to ubuntu?
[08:27] <Amaranth> erich: ctrl-alt-f1 and friends work again?
[08:27] <pkern> Kamion: Ok, thanks.
[08:27] <Kamion> np
[08:27] <erich> Amaranth: yes.
[08:28] <Amaranth> erich: cool, you should be good until the next xkeyboard-config upgrade then ;)
[08:28] <H0lyD4wg> what grabs my microsoft internet keys and how do i tell it not to do so?
[08:30] <TMM> hey
[08:30] <Seveas> H0lyD4wg, system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[08:30] <erich> Amaranth: ;-) or did upgrades file->dir work? ;-)
[08:30] <TMM> am I do the only one seeing breakage with xcompmgr and breezy?
[08:30] <pkern> TMM: xcompmgr is broken on many systems anyway
[08:30] <pkern> TMM: It's highly unstable |:
[08:30] <TMM> yeah...
[08:31] <TMM> didn't metacity sport its own composite manager?
[08:31] <H0lyD4wg> Seveas: shortcuts defined there will work anywhere as long as i run gnome-settings-daemon, right?
[08:31] <Amaranth> erich: i don't quite remember. i know for awhile upgrading was broken, then fixing that broke new installs, and i think it went back in forth a couple times
[08:31] <butcherbird> drelle_work, no experience with suse not sure about their community etc but I've never used a distro I liked quite as much as Ubuntu
[08:31] <H0lyD4wg> TMM: xfwm has one
[08:32] <drelle_work> just wondering... thanx for the comment :)
[08:32] <TMM> I thought metacity had one too
[08:32] <TMM> brb
[08:34] <Seveas> H0lyD4wg, guess so...
[08:35] <erich> So I only need to fiddle things right that kerberos users can still login and have their dirs automounted while local users can login at the same time, too... right now it's an either both can login or the dirs are automounted... :-(
[08:36] <H0lyD4wg> Seveas: does it change the xmodmap? Xev reports the just-unbound keys as NoSymbol even though their names were correctly reported when i was using hoary
[08:37] <fivetwentysix> Anyone here use Quanta for web development?
[08:38] <psusi> let's say I have a driver that the kernel needs to access my hard disk... how can I go about installing ubuntu so that it loads that driver at boot time and thus, can mount my hard drive as the root filesystem?
[08:38] <bartp> hi
[08:38] <TMM> well... no composite goodness in ubuntu apparently
[08:40] <[A] ndy80> Seveas: one tip: the timeout of #ubuntu channell is too low. Sometimes we're kicked before our nick can be authenticated
[08:40] <jadedstar> [A] ndy80, Seveas: Yeah, i've had that happen once/twice too.
[08:42] <LasseL> jadedstar, [A] ndy80, set your nick password as the server password
[08:42] <jadedstar> LasseL: I have, still times me out every once in a while tho :-(
[08:42] <Kamion> authenticate before joining the channel?
[08:43] <jadedstar> Kamion: could do that...but I'm lazy :-)
[08:43] <LasseL> I autojoin via x-chat
[08:43] <jadedstar> ditto
[08:43] <Chastaghir> Hi @ll, my GDM does not start automatically anymore. sudo gdm starts it without problems. What can I do to change this?
[08:43] <LasseL> but after I set my password in both the nickserv and server password field it didn't happen to me
[08:43] <MatC> hi folks.... I've just changed video card and am looking at a text screen now (x won't start).  I've tried xconfig, XF86Setup, etc. searched the ubuntu page, read the x man page, but nothing works (can't get the configurator thing started), any ideas ?
[08:44] <jadedstar> It may be because I'm running on a virtual machine sometimes, normally when it happen =/
[08:44] <tritium> Chastaghir, what caused it to stop?
[08:44] <spiral> hello, I'm back
[08:44] <spiral> Riddell & ogra... So, how should it be fixed ?
[08:44] <ompaul> LasseL, the same password may not be in both boxes :)
[08:44] <Chastaghir> yesterday something hit my root file system, so that I have to repair it with fsck
[08:45] <LasseL> ompaul, well, that is what i have
[08:45] <heatxsink_> if I wanted to make a kernel with the one I'm running now
[08:45] <heatxsink_> I apt the kernel source
[08:45] <ompaul> MatC,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:45] <heatxsink_> cp the proper config file
[08:45] <Chastaghir> a sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm brings
[08:45] <heatxsink_> to /usr/src/linux
[08:45] <ompaul> LasseL, okay I suggest you try again
[08:45] <MatC> ompaul: I tried that I think, will try again, brb :)
[08:45] <heatxsink_> then make oldconfig?
[08:45] <Chastaghir> invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[08:46] <TMM> meh, I want dropshadows
[08:46] <darkheart> heatxsink_ Please type 1 idea per message...You just flood the channel that way and it's hard to follow.
[08:46] <LasseL> ompaul, try what?
[08:46] <ogra> spiral, no idea, since i dont know how ksceeensaver works... feel free to jointhe TB meeting at 20:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting where well discuss gnome-screensaver
[08:46] <Chastaghir> Google does not help. Any ideas?
[08:46] <heatxsink_> when compling a kernel with an existing config file, what do I type?
[08:47] <ompaul> LasseL, to enter both passwords in the xchat dialog box
[08:47] <spiral> ogra: this evening ?
[08:47] <spiral> ogra: they speak about 21st
[08:48] <darkheart> heatxsink_ Existing..Like the one used to compile the current kernel?
[08:48] <ogra> spiral, every tuesday... CC and TB changing in a two week schedule
[08:48] <sonnyjz> hello
[08:48] <psusi> let's say I have a driver that the kernel needs to access my hard disk... how can I go about installing ubuntu so that it loads that driver at boot time and thus, can mount my hard drive as the root filesystem?
[08:48] <spiral> ogra: all right then
[08:48] <sonnyjz> is there any online documentation I can look for ?
[08:48] <sonnyjz> through rather
[08:49] <elvirolo> KDE 3.5 rocks
[08:49] <Seveas> ogra?
[08:49] <Datcrack> /server irc.secureturkey.net - turkish linux help channel
[08:49] <Datcrack> /server irc.secureturkey.net - turkish linux help channel
[08:49] <elvirolo> thanks for the nice packages Riddell :)
[08:49] <wfc> in gpdf - im trying to print as a pdf but get the error message "You were trying to print to a printer using the "gnome-print-pdf" driver. This program requires a PostScript printer driver."
[08:50] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[08:50] <[Wiebel] > are there any ubuntu install flops? :)
[08:50] <ogra> Seveas, ?
[08:51] <Seveas> ogra, can I pm you for a sec?
[08:51] <ogra> sure
[08:51] <heatxsink_> darkheart: yes
[08:51] <erich> How can I remove the update-notifier from the default session?
[08:52] <Seveas> system -> preferences -> session
[08:52] <darkheart> heatxsink_ Well, I'm sure google can help you out with that, but I believe you copy the config file found in /boot to your kernel source tree root. I forget what it's named as though.
[08:53] <thomerz>
[08:53] <mjr> thomerz, that's pretty, but doesn't really belong here :)
[08:53] <erich> Seveas: for all users that might login.
[08:54] <thomerz> ??
[08:54] <Seveas> thomerz, stick to english in here..
[08:54] <Seveas> erich, ehrm, /etc/gdm or /etc/X11/Xsession.d oslt...
[08:54] <thomerz>  Unicode
[08:58] <MatC> ompaul, Chastaghir: thanks, got x reconfigured, the new card works now :)
[08:58] <darkheart> !ja
[08:58] <ubotu> darkheart: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:01] <Hoxzer> what is good sound editor for ubuntu?
[09:02] <CookedGryphon> Hoxzer audacity
[09:02] <CookedGryphon> well, it does everything i want it to, not sure if tis professional quality or anything
[09:02] <Tomcat_> Not really professional... :o
[09:03] <chaosmind> hey all-- Breezy rocks!  ... but what happened to all the radio stations in Rhythmbox?
[09:03] <Tomcat_> But quite good, still.
[09:03] <CookedGryphon> but tis fine for splicing up mp3 files and adding the odd effect/fadeout etc
[09:03] <CookedGryphon> i may nopt be doign it justice, as i've never had the need to use it for anythign more
[09:03] <psusi> let's say I have a driver that the kernel needs to access my hard disk... how can I go about installing ubuntu so that it loads that driver at boot time and thus, can mount my hard drive as the root filesystem?
[09:03] <creart> hi all. iam trying to use an install.sh script, but apparently it wants to use the kernel source... aint these included in ubuntu?
[09:04] <MatC> creart: doubt it, mine didn't even include gcc :)
[09:04] <Xenguy> Hi - the package 'msttcorefonts' does not seem to be currently available in Hoary -- does anyone know if it has been removed from Ubuntu?
[09:04] <freddy_s> Hey... how do I get w32codecs?
[09:04] <creart> but can't i get them with the package system then?
[09:04] <CookedGryphon> psusi, it *might* work if u put it in /etc/modules ... tho surely that would need to be mounted for it to read it.. so u will probs have to compile it into thekernel
[09:04] <MatC> freddy_s: look on mplayer's site, they have them there
[09:05] <CookedGryphon> creart, MatC the install CD has them on, it jsut doesn't install them by default
[09:05] <psusi> CookedGryphon: isn't /etc/modules in an initrd so that lilo can load them all, pass the initrd to the kernel, and then the kernel uses the drivers to access the disk?
[09:05] <CookedGryphon> u can install them via synaptic using just the cd as a repository
[09:05] <freddy_s> okay I'll try that
[09:05] <MatC> freddy_s: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[09:05] <darkheart> thomerz #ubuntu operator +b you. If you type something, people cannot see it.
[09:06] <CookedGryphon> psusi, emm.... yes?
[09:06] <psusi> CookedGryphon: ok... so the question then is, how do I go about adding the driver to the initrd?
[09:06] <creart> but how do i install them from the cd, through the package system?
[09:06] <blank> yay
[09:06] <mihaie> hi, does ubuntu have a graphical interface to start/stop services ?
[09:06] <blank> can someone tell me the file that contains all the repositories
[09:06] <blank> for aptitude
[09:07] <CookedGryphon> psusi well if u think it will load /etc/modules anyway can't u jstu add it to the list
[09:07] <blank> someone told me yesterday but I forgot
[09:07] <tritium> mihaie, there's one in breezy
[09:07] <tritium> blank, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:07] <blank> please :'(
[09:07] <blank> yay thanks!
[09:07] <freddy_s> "essential codecs package" ?
[09:07] <MatC> yeppers
[09:07] <psusi> CookedGryphon: well, it depends... is /etc/modules inside the initrd, or on the root filesystem?  if it's on the root filesystem, it won't be able to access it
[09:08] <freddy_s> ok but I don't know how to install from source, can I just do it with a command with the console?
[09:08] <CookedGryphon> psusi, i was under the impression that it was in the root filesystem, hence the hesitancy as to whether it would work, i think you may have to compile the module into the kernel
[09:08] <CookedGryphon> which is, i'm afriad, beyond me
[09:08] <creart> CookedGryphon, could you tell me the name of the kernel source ?
[09:08] <CookedGryphon> afraid*
[09:09] <freddy_s> MatC how do I install it?
[09:09] <psusi> CookedGryphon: I think it is too... I don't think I CAN compile it into the kernel, so I need to add it in with the other boot time drivers in the initial ramdisk image I think
[09:09] <psusi> but I'm not quite sure how to do that
[09:09] <blank> tritium: what's the command to refresh/update the aptitude thing, I remember I did it yesterday too
[09:10] <tritium> blank, sudo aptitude update
[09:10] <blank> thanks bud
[09:10] <tritium> sure
[09:11] <freddy_s> okay i have downloaded the codecs, but where do I put them?
[09:11] <Adsum> i have kind of a problem, when i've compiled and command my mud-server to run it says: "telnet bind: Permission denied". works as it should when i sudo it.
[09:11] <freddy_s> ssential-20050412.tar.bz2
[09:11] <Adsum> can anyone help me with this?
[09:12] <CookedGryphon> Adsum, change the permissions on it
[09:12] <chaosmind> tritium: what's the name of the GUI start/stop services app in Breezy?
[09:12] <freddy_s> I have downloaded essential codecs from mplayer homepage. but where do i put them?
[09:12] <CookedGryphon> with sudo chmod a+x (executble name here)
[09:12] <boxerboy> hi everyone
[09:13] <CookedGryphon> Adsum, or u may need to give the program itself root privelidges
[09:13] <Adsum> CookedGryphon, that sounds a bit risky
[09:13] <Adsum> CookedGryphon, the chmod didnt work btw
[09:13] <psusi> Adsum: non root users can not bind to ports under 1024
[09:13] <CookedGryphon> Adsum the second one maybe, the first one jstu means u can run it as anyone
[09:13] <Morimando> hello there
[09:13] <boxerboy> i sent in a bug and now they came back asking for the xsession-errors fille in home dir. i searched home all over and i cant find it is there  away to locate it?
[09:13] <Adsum> psusi, ah :D
[09:14] <CookedGryphon> oh rite okay, the second option i'm not so sure about ( a little knowledge is a dangerous thing)
[09:14] <tritium> chaosmind, services-admin is the program, and it's part of the gnome-system-tools package
[09:14] <Morimando> Anybody here able to help me with Ubuntu & Compaq Evo N610c?
[09:14] <psusi> Adsum: so either run the program as root, or bind it on another port ;)
[09:14] <Adsum> CookedGryphon, i wouldnt want a remote controlled program to have root access on my computer, it sounds very unsecure
[09:14] <psusi> or maybe you can use tcpwrappers or some sort of program that runs as root to do the bind, then drops to a normal user to run the mud
[09:14] <tristanmike> Does anyone know why when I try and resize firefox windows, it's all jittery, and very difficult to handle?
[09:15] <CookedGryphon> yeah, so bind it to another port?
[09:15] <chaosmind> tritium: thanks!  VEDDY cool!
[09:15] <Morimando> tristanmike, any specific graphics card driver?
[09:15] <freddy_s> MatC: can you help me installing the codecs?
[09:15] <tristanmike> nVidia, the ones from the repos
[09:15] <freddy_s> or anyone else
[09:15] <gn0me> Anyone had any experience with Apache? I tried their channel with no answer.  I edit the config (to change the basedir) and try to restart apache and it doesn't update to the new basedir, any ideas?
[09:15] <Adsum> psusi, thanks alot for the info. Worked when i changed the port
[09:15] <tristanmike> fx5200, it's only firefox Morimando
[09:16] <Morimando> tristanmike, exclusively? No other problems?
[09:16] <tritium> chaosmind, are you running breezy?
[09:16] <chaosmind> freddy_s: unfortunately, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ is down right now, but google has it cached!  (very good instructions!)
[09:16] <peter1984> how do i make an initrd image?
[09:16] <chaosmind> tritium: yeah, more or less up-to-the-minute preview!  ;-)
[09:16] <tritium> chaosmind, if you are, System->Administration->Services will get you there
[09:16] <psusi> peter1984: I've been wondering that myself
[09:16] <tritium> cool, chaosmind :)
[09:16] <freddy_s> i've found the codecs I need at mplayer homepage, but i don't know how to install them
[09:16] <florg> hi there, i can't write to a file on my fat32 partition because it belongs to group "root". when i try to make "sudo chgrp <me> <file>", it comes "operation not permitted". what to do?
[09:16] <tristanmike> Morimando, yup, not that I've notice, sometimes, when I'm trying to resize it, it will close all windows, but that's very rare
[09:16] <Morimando> peter1984, "man mkinitrd" should give you some clues
[09:16] <boxerboy> it wont open  from google either ive tried everything to get back in that site
[09:17] <psusi> or more specifically, how can I add a boot driver to the initrd ubuntu installs
[09:17] <freddy_s> and the ubuntu guide instructions won't let me install w32codecs
[09:17] <chaosmind> tritium: thx, very cool... now all we need is a decent runlevel editor! ;-)
[09:17] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is crud
[09:17] <Morimando> tristanmike, have you looked for updates for firefox/updated the repos in Synaptic? Have you installed firefox-gnome?
[09:17] <Adsum> so when im here i just thought i would ask: aren't i suppose to be able to run executables by just typing in the name and not having to do the ./ before it??
[09:17] <CookedGryphon> florg, how have u mounted it?
[09:17] <psusi> florg: you want chown not chgrp
[09:17] <tristanmike> Morimando, lemme check
[09:17] <Morimando> freddy_s, w32codecs is not available at the moment
[09:17] <Seveas> freddy_s, hoary or breezy?
[09:17] <peter1984> damn in suse i just added the path in etc/sysconfig/kernel. but where is it in ubuntu???
[09:17] <Seveas> Morimando, it is...
[09:17] <lonewolff> Seveas: both crud and down it seems
[09:17] <lonewolff> so all is good
[09:17] <freddy_s> hoary.
[09:17] <CookedGryphon> florg, and what he said
[09:18] <florg> CookedGryphon, with user,exec,uid=<my uid"
[09:18] <[Wiebel] > breezy here :)
[09:18] <gn0me> adsum: I think you make a link to it in one of the dirs in your $PATH.. like /usr/bin
[09:18] <chaosmind> freddy_s: it's actually easier to update your repositories, then do "apt-get install w32codecs" (or od the same via Synaptic)
[09:18] <[Wiebel] > same problem :)
[09:18] <Seveas> freddy_s, grab the codecs from mplayerhq.hu...
[09:18] <Morimando> peter1984, mkinitrd is the program you need, i dunno the syntax by heart, though, but it ain't too hard
[09:18] <florg> psusi, it belongs to me as user but to root as groop!?
[09:18] <freddy_s> chaosmind: ive been trying that for a couple of days, didn't work for me
[09:18] <Seveas> chaosmind, there's no repo with w32codecs for hoary currently
[09:18] <Adsum> gn0me, so its not automagically when files are marked as executables
[09:18] <psusi> florg: man chown... it changes both the owning user and group
[09:18] <[Wiebel] > Reinstallation of w32codecs is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[09:18] <chaosmind> freddy_s: D'oh!  guess it's down for themoment, sorry...
[09:18] <freddy_s> seveas: yes but how and where do install them
[09:18] <Morimando> chaosmind, seach synaptics for w32codecs, it's gone
[09:19] <peter1984> i know i have used it in suse
[09:19] <Seveas> freddy_s, mplayerhq.hu
[09:19] <gn0me> Adsum: yeah
[09:19] <Seveas> search for the download link
[09:19] <gn0me> Adsum: ./<file> if it isn't
[09:19] <Seveas> it has install instructions too
[09:19] <butcherbird> someone know why w32codecs were removed from the repo?
[09:19] <Earthen> freddy_s, did you look at the readme file on the mplayer page it tells you how to install the codecs
[09:19] <freddy_s> seveas: i have downloaded essential-20050412.tar.bz2
[09:19] <freddy_s> , but where do i put the files which are inside?
[09:19] <tristanmike> Morimando, ok, I've got firefox-gnome-support if that's what you mean, and I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say "firefox/updated" I don't see that in synaptic under a search for "firefox"
[09:19] <Morimando> peter1984, you probably just need to insert te modules needed in /etc/mkinitrd
[09:19] <freddy_s> earthen: no i didnt ill have a look now
[09:19] <Adsum> gn0me, damn. I'm dissapointed
[09:19] <chaosmind> Morimando: you are correct, sir!  (I'll stop giving bunk advice!!)
[09:20] <Morimando> tristanmike, i meant if you updated firefox since you first installed Ubuntu
[09:20] <Seveas> freddy_s, /usr/lib/win32/
[09:20] <Earthen> freddy_s, http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README
[09:20] <freddy_s> seveas: okay! thanks
[09:20] <Morimando> chaosmind, no problem there, i just realized it yesterday
[09:20] <Morimando> hope it'll be back soon
[09:20] <boxerboy> ok this si really strange i opened terminal and typed "locate xsession"
[09:20] <chaosmind> so the w32codecs thing... technical glitch or the Pointy-Headed Bosses playing DRM?!?
[09:20] <psusi> Morimando: ubuntu installs a prepackaged initrd from the installer cd right?  is there any way I can open up that initrd image while running the install, and add a driver to it, then install?
[09:21] <Seveas> chaosmind, ENOIDEA
[09:21] <Seveas> I have breezy debs though...
[09:21] <CrTr> dc++ client for ubuntu ?
[09:21] <Morimando> psusi, you can open it and take a look at it but you can only change it using mkinitrd, unfortunately
[09:21] <boxerboy> it gave me home/boxerboy/.xsession-errors   i swear i dont have it
[09:21] <freddy_s> Seveas: the win32 folder isn't there, how do i create it?
[09:21] <chaosmind> Seveas: LOL!
[09:21] <Seveas> freddy_s, sudo mkdir /usr/lib/win32/
[09:22] <peter1984> But it is an DSDT.aml file, is it the same for that kind of file?
[09:22] <tristanmike> Morimando, I've taken all updates that have been offered, aside from that I haven't gone looking for updates, was I suppose to?
[09:22] <GhostFreeman> wait, is Breezy out
[09:22] <boxerboy> yes
[09:22] <Seveas> GhostFreeman, no
[09:22] <psusi> Morimando: so mkinitrd builds the initrd image from a directory tree you give it?  so I should be able to mount the initrd that the installer puts on the hard disk, copy the files in it to a temp directory, add the driver, then run mkinitrd to build a new image?
[09:22] <Seveas> not until oct. 13
[09:22] <boxerboy> colony 4 is lateset
[09:22] <Seveas> boxerboy, nonsense
[09:22] <GhostFreeman> ok
[09:22] <freddy_s> Seveas: so i guess i will have to chmod 770 /usr/lib/win32 as well?
[09:22] <Seveas> there's been a preview release already :)
[09:23] <boxerboy> i just ordered the ship it cds
[09:23] <Morimando> tristanmike, When you start Synaptic, there is a button saying "reload" or something like that, hit this button to refresh the repositories, it will then show you, if updates are available (in the system notification area)
[09:23] <Seveas> freddy_s, no, you unpack the tarball and move the files in there as root...
[09:24] <Morimando> psusi, I believe if you add the modules in /etc/mkinitrd and then run mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.name it will build the new initrd according to the new filestructure
[09:24] <tristanmike> Morimando, ok, just did it, no updates, but I didn't think there would be, my computer tells me shortly after I log in.
[09:24] <psusi> hrm... ok... I'll have to give that a try
[09:25] <tristanmike> Morimando, Its been like that for a while now, just never spoke up before, it's just been getting real annoying, ya know :)
[09:25] <Morimando> tristanmike, ah okay. Then you should e running the latest firefox version. I am not sure what causes the provlems you got, then... but I believe it has something to do with refreshrate and/or the nvidia driver configuration in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:25] <chaosmind> where can I download the Colony 4 release of Breezy (assuming that's newer than the preview?)
[09:26] <nlogax> chaosmind Preview is newer tahn Col4
[09:26] <chaosmind> nlogax: thanks!  (love this community  ;-)
[09:26] <Seveas> chaosmind, it isn't
[09:26] <Seveas> preview is the latest
[09:26] <Seveas> hmm nvm, i should read first, then talk
[09:26] <Seveas> :)
[09:26] <chaosmind> =)
[09:26] <nlogax> chaosmind me too!
[09:27] <Seveas> anyway, if you run hoary, then simply dist-upgrade to breezy :)
[09:27] <tristanmike> Morimando, yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm all up to date, I'm running Hoary, if that helps. I've recently re-configured xserver for something else, but the problem still persits. You don't have the issue, when trying to resize windows via the bottom right corner resizer?
[09:28] <Morimando> tristanmike, no i don't have this problem, neither with my nvidia (FX5600 Ultra) nor with my Laptop (Radeon Mobility 7500)
[09:28] <creart> when you use the sudo command in the terminal, will your actions outside the terminal then also be done as root?
[09:28] <Fiyawerx> if all compaq's were exaclty the same, someone could probably help you so "everything just works" i wish it was that easy
[09:28] <psusi> compcrap = beat repeatedly with a hammer or other blunt object untill you feel better
[09:28] <Seveas> creart, only if you launched them with sudo...
[09:28] <psusi> creart: no
[09:28] <psusi> only the command you ask sudo to run is run as root
[09:28] <Morimando> tough I use the drivers from the Nvidia homepage and I use Sourcemage on my Desktop computer
[09:29] <creart> so how can i make "root actions" out side the terminal?
[09:29] <redlounge> hi. anyone knows if there is an easy way to use dnsbl with thunderbird in ubuntu? i used spampal back in the windows times...
[09:29] <Morimando> I only use Ubuntu on my laptop at the moment, and not sure if i continue using it, if i don't get the friggin Fn key to work
[09:29] <psusi> why do you want to?
[09:29] <Seveas> crabstic, be a bit more specific...
[09:29] <pkern> Is Ubuntu Breezy able to have its root filesystem on LVM?
[09:29] <Morimando> pkern, I think so
[09:29] <Seveas> hoary can have that too
[09:30] <Seveas> it's just /boot that can't be on lvm
[09:30] <florg> i still can't change neither group nor user :-( not with chgrp or chwon
[09:30] <tristanmike> Morimando, hmmm, is there any way I can take a video of that cause it's whacky as heck! When I click and drag, up becomes down, but then reverts to up, but then reverts to down again, left and right, same thing. But I should also say, that it only seems to happen when I move outside of the window frame. If I stay inside the frame, it's ok, but that means I have to resize the windows really slowly, you can see how this is an annoyance.
[09:30] <tritium> Morimando, have you tried setting up keyboard shortcuts?
[09:30] <freddy_s> Seveas: okay great, thanks. but everything isn't working, is that package really everything in w32codecs? because when i had w32codecs on another install  i could view those i can't now
[09:30] <pkern> Because my initrd just dropped into busybox after pre-install boot from lilo. LVM was initialised, but it wasn't able to find /etc/fstab, it didn't load the reiserfs module and I had to run-init it manually.
[09:31] <Seveas> freddy_s, you may have luck with the w32codecs package on seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:31] <Seveas> it;s made for breezy but might work on hoary too
[09:31] <Morimando> tritium, I have setup the Multimediakeys and the volume keys, those where easy because they created an ordinary event, i used "dmesg" to see what event and then assigned the key a keycode. But Fn and Fn+something doesn't create any event visible in dmesg
[09:32] <tritium> Morimando, I see.
[09:32] <apokryphos> freddy_s: there's a hoary w32codecs at giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs
[09:32] <tritium> Morimando, which model?
[09:32] <florg> oops - is it normal that all files on a vfat fs belong to group root?
[09:32] <Morimando> tristanmike, sorry, but i got no idea what the problem is with your Firefox. I could only guess it's about a) refresh rate b) mouse difficulties. You should try the Ubuntu forums
[09:32] <psusi> florg: unless you specify another group when you mount it, yes
[09:32] <freddy_s> Seveas: i need to enter username and password. arent those for breezy?
[09:32] <Morimando> tritium, a Compaq N610c, newest firmware ("new" being relative, the last BIOS is from 2004)
[09:33] <florg> psusi, ok, means i also should the option "gid=<my group>" to the mount?
[09:33] <florg> in fstab
[09:33] <tristanmike> Morimando, I've checked, saw one thread with only 2 posts, and a vauge maybe fix
[09:33] <freddy_s> apokryphos: .dev package, how to install it?
[09:33] <psusi> florg: if yuo want it owned by your group, yes
[09:33] <Morimando> tristanmike, and that didn't work?
[09:34] <florg> thx
[09:34] <Seveas> freddy_s, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:34] <yahalom> anyone know of  a good movie editor , for avis?
[09:34] <tristanmike> Morimando, I can't figure out what the heck the poster is talking about
[09:34] <Morimando> tristanmike, post me the link, i'll take a look
[09:35] <pkern> Hm. It seems that the Breezy installation from netboot is completely broken in pre-install.
[09:35] <tristanmike> Morimando, thanx that's nice of you, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28164
[09:35] <tritium> yahalom, perhaps kino
[09:35] <yahalom> tritium, kino does do it
[09:35] <freddy_s> Seveas: okay
[09:35] <tristanmike> Morimando, but I don't have any of those extensions, just the media player connectivity
[09:35] <Morimando> tritium, you got no idea?
[09:36] <tritium> Morimando, no, I looked into it, but didn't find much
[09:36] <Morimando> damn
[09:36] <birna90> irc.trivia.is
[09:36] <tritium> Morimando, you can check this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqEvoN600c
[09:36] <tritium> But that's a slightly different model
[09:36] <jjb> Hi, I need help abut network, cannot manage to configure my printer which is on a Windows network
[09:37] <freddy_s> Seveas, apokryphos: i installed it now, great thx :)
[09:37] <cristiano> hi guys i need help
[09:37] <Morimando> tristanmike, did you try the suggested fix? opening a firefox window, typing "about:config" in the location-bar and then changing the mentioned values?
[09:37] <tristanmike> Morimando, I don't have those values :(
[09:38] <tristanmike> ?
[09:38] <yuyudhana> On hoary, when I add a new user using users-admin, it does not get added to sudoers and I had to do it manually. Is this how it is to be done? The wiki mentions that "Executing system administrator tasks" privilege should be checked. I don't see this option at all. Thanks in advance
[09:39] <freddy_s> Seveas, apokryphos: i still can't play the files though, do you need to register the codecs before it works? I saw some command with register in ubuntu guide about codecs
[09:39] <dreamstar> hi guys i need help
[09:39] <Seveas> freddy_s, which player?
[09:39] <cheesie> Be Back Later
[09:40] <Morimando> tristanmike, try creating them
[09:40] <dreamstar> i installed the 5.10 right now and i'm not able to play mp3 files with whatever player: why?
[09:40] <freddy_s> Seveas: xine, totem, mplayer :P preferably mplayer i heard it's the best
[09:40] <jjb> what kind of help ?
[09:40] <ninjafish> yuyudhana go to properties -> User privileges
[09:40] <Morimando> type "nglayout" in the bar were it says "filter", then right click, then "New" and "String" and then copy what the tread says
[09:40] <Seveas> freddy_s, mplayer should pick them up automagically
[09:40] <apokryphos> freddy_s: no need to register; should be fine if you restart the player in theory
[09:40] <apokryphos> dreamstar: do you have the gstreamer0.8-mad package?
[09:41] <dreamstar> yep everything
[09:41] <tristanmike> Morimando, and how would I go about that....?
[09:41] <Morimando> likewise with the other value, just change the filter
[09:41] <apokryphos> dreamstar: and what happens when you do try to play?
[09:41] <Morimando> tristanmike, you enter those values as New Strings and then restart firefox
[09:41] <dreamstar> it says it cannot find the codecs
[09:41] <yuyudhana> ninjafish: I saw Properties -> User Privileges and that option is not present
[09:42] <tristanmike> Morimando, lol, ok, let's go one step further...how do I add a new string
[09:42] <apokryphos> dreamstar: I doubt any extra mp3 package is required; I've always used juk/amarok here fine, and I haven't heard other complaints...
[09:42] <apokryphos> dreamstar: when did you upgrade?
[09:42] <DVSoftware> hellooo ppl
[09:42] <freddy_s> Seveas, apokryphos: I killed MPlayer, and the other media players. tried to play the videos, *.mov *.wmv *.avi
[09:42] <ninjafish> yuyudhana, what is below enable access to external storage devices?
[09:42] <tristanmike> Morimando, it doesn't appear I can edit it from here
[09:43] <Morimando> tristanmike, like i said, you're in 'about:config', you enter nglayout as "Filter" (right under the location bar), then there should be two values and much free space, you rightclick the free space and in the appearing menu you select 1) NEW and then 2) String
[09:43] <dreamstar> i upgraded right now, i installed the 5.10 and made a complete upgrading
[09:43] <DVSoftware> why i can't intall damn vlc in breezy?
[09:43] <apokryphos> freddy_s: are you sure you installed w32codecs correctly, and that you're running i386? dpkg -l|grep w32codecs gives?
[09:43] <yuyudhana> ninjafish: Monitor system logs
[09:43] <freddy_s> Seveas, apokryphos: but no luck, it still doesn't work, xine only plays sound, and shows some messed up graphics,Mplayer hangs, and totem shuts down immediately
[09:43] <tristanmike> Morimando, sorry, thanx, I wasn't really aware of the right click-New, sorry
[09:44] <apokryphos> freddy_s: erm, cancel the i386; you just need 32-bit
[09:44] <Morimando> tristanmike, as value, set 0
[09:45] <freddy_s> dpkg -l|grep w32codecs gives ii  w32codecs      20050216-0.0   win32 binary codecs
[09:45] <tristanmike> Morimando, yeah I was just going to ask
[09:45] <apokryphos> freddy_s: hm, looks like it's installed ok
[09:45] <dreamstar> i really don't know why mp3 doesn't work :(
[09:45] <DVSoftware> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2381
[09:45] <JDigital> Hey. Can anyone tell me how to up the subtitle font size on mplayer?
[09:45] <DVSoftware> why?
[09:45] <JDigital> Maybe there's a command-line option to do it
[09:45] <freddy_s> apokryphos: i have 32 bit processor
[09:45] <ninjafish> yuyudhana - ok go to advanced and select administrator from the profile dropdown
[09:45] <JDigital> I read the man page but it doesn't give me anything.
[09:45] <JDigital> I read the official documentation but it doesn't give me anything either.
[09:46] <Morimando> tristanmike, for the other value: set it to 5000
[09:46] <JDigital> I asked in #mplayer but they won't tell me because I got the package with Ubuntu and didn't compile it myself.
[09:46] <shrike__> bastards
[09:46] <tristanmike> Morimando, your quicker then I can get the question out, nice, thanx
[09:46] <LittleDan> when I do sudo update-alternatives --config gcc, it says no alternatives for gcc
[09:47] <tritium> LittleDan, try cc
[09:47] <Morimando> tristanmike, I hope that works. When you entered both strings, restart firefox and see if that helped
[09:47] <tristanmike> Morimando, out of curiosity, how did you arrive at those numbers, if you don't mind?
[09:47] <tritium> LittleDan, all the atlernatives are in /etc/alternatives
[09:47] <LittleDan> it says that only gcc (3.3.5) will work, but I've apt-gotten gcc-4.0
[09:47] <tritium> alternatives, that is
[09:48] <Morimando> tristanmike, I just used the link the guy added in his post and searched for the two values he had mentioned
[09:48] <tristanmike> Morimando, nope, no go
[09:48] <tristanmike> Morimando, oh, I didn't see them, sorry
[09:48] <Morimando> damn :(
[09:48] <freddy_s> apokryphos: mpq files works, but only with totem, xine shows messed up graphics and mplayer hangs. totem playback isn't perfect though, it's very choppy and laggy
[09:48] <LittleDan> tritium, what do I have to put in /etc/alternatives to make it work?
[09:49] <Morimando> tristanmike, maybe you should read the linked page, maybe it has the right solution somewhere, if those two don't work i have no other idea :)
[09:49] <Morimando> :) ==> :(
[09:50] <tristanmike> Morimando, thank you very much for your time, you taught me a thing or two anyway :( ==> :)
[09:50] <Morimando> tristanmike,  you're welcome
[09:50] <tristanmike> Morimando, and I know it doesn't work, so that's good too
[09:50] <up2zion22> i cant install my local printer
[09:50] <up2zion22> pls help
[09:51] <freddy_s> apokryphos: any idea what to do?
[09:51] <tristanmike> Morimando, will a right click-reset on my entry delete it?
[09:51] <apokryphos> freddy_s: not quite sure why that's happening, I'm afraid.
[09:51] <ninjafish> up2zion what modal printer
[09:51] <fivetwentysix> can i play wmv in ubuntu?
[09:51] <Morimando> up2zion22, is it a Lexmark?
[09:51] <tritium> LittleDan, you don't put anything there
[09:51] <Morimando> tristanmike, I dunno, maybe yes ;)
[09:51] <ninjafish> fivetwentysix yes, google 'restricted formats ubuntu'
[09:51] <tristanmike> Morimando, nope, took away the value
[09:51] <LittleDan> tritium, but how do I inform the system of gcc-4.0's presence?
[09:52] <fivetwentysix> thanks
[09:52] <DVSoftware> why i can't install vlc
[09:52] <Morimando> tristanmike, well it won't hurt leaving the two entries in there, as long as the behaviour off FF isn't getting worse
[09:52] <tritium> LittleDan, try update-alternatives with --set <name> <path>
[09:53] <tristanmike> Morimando, that's yet to be determined.....
[09:54] <freddy_s> apokryphos: think i should try VLC?
[09:54] <tristanmike> Morimando, I'm the kinda guy, if I don't need it, then I don't want it
[09:54] <apokryphos> freddy_s: sure
[09:54] <up2zion22> epson
[09:54] <up2zion22> i cant detect anything
[09:54] <LittleDan> tritium, it says it can't find the alternative `/usr/bin/gcc-4.0'
[09:54] <yuyudhana> ninjafish: thanks. The profiles drop-down is shown only when adding the first user. I had missed that
[09:55] <Morimando> tristanmike, me either, normally, i added the values myself to see if it works the way i described it, now i too can't get rid of em ;)
[09:55] <tristanmike> Morimando, d'oh!
[09:55] <ninjafish> yuyudhana - np
[09:56] <tritium> LittleDan, perhaps with --install, then?
[09:58] <LittleDan> what's <link>?
[10:01] <Oli> hello
[10:02] <Floaties> hey oli
[10:02] <Floaties> uk oli?
[10:02] <Oli> No, .ch :)
[10:02] <Floaties> :O
[10:03] <LittleDan> tritium, what do I put for <link>?
[10:03] <yuyudhana> Another problem: I moved from FC4 to Hoary. While installing I left /home (ext3) unformatted. Now Hoary says fsck.ext3 has detected some new features on the /home partition and a new version of e2fsck is needed. When I do apt-get update, I see that I have the most recent e2fsprogs. Please help.
[10:03] <Oli> Well, I have just fresh installed an Ubunto, seems good, except that my mouse wont run (ps/2) - X is up, no fun without mouse :/ ways to go? :)
[10:04] <Floaties> im still at the bottom of the food chain,mine is locked ar boot
[10:04] <Morimando> Oli look for /dev/input/mouse or /dev/psaux if it's tere
[10:05] <typo> how stable is breezy right now? (I have been using linux for many years and debian for a few, I know about apt and dpkg)
[10:05] <thoreauputic> Oli: have you tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? There you can probably choose options for your mouse
[10:05] <Morimando> if yes, then manually edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the mouse device
[10:05] <Oli> thoreauputic, Morimando: problem is X is up (at boot time), no mouse - I'm kinde bullshited, dont know any shortcuts or should i hit ctrl/alt/backspace and kill xserver?
[10:06] <up2zion22> cant print locally: unable to open parallel port device file  "/dev/lp0": Permission denied
[10:06] <Morimando> Oli restart X won't get you anywhere. You need to figure out where your mouse is linked (in /dev/, most likely /dev/input) and insert that into your xorg.conf at the appropriate place
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Oli: ctrl-alt-F1 (or F2, F3 etc) and rune the command I suggested, then restart X
[10:07] <Oli> Ah, good I see a shell *feels better now*
[10:07] <thoreauputic> Morimando: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the correct way to reconfigure X
[10:07] <Morimando> xorgconfig will probably do it, if a) you haven't customized any things in xorg.conf and b) you know where your friggin mouse is
[10:07] <Morimando> thoreauputic, these are all correct ways to reconfigure X
[10:08] <Morimando> thoreauputic, though your way would anihilate all changes he has possibly made to xorg.conf, so it's only a good way, if the xorg.conf is fresh anyways
[10:08] <thoreauputic> Morimando: I'll rephrase that. In Debian - based distros, the canonical method is as I said
[10:08] <chemisus> hi, i am pretty new to linux, and i just installed ubuntu (hoary hedgehog) and am trying to share folders. which should i install, nfs or samba?
[10:08] <tritium> Morimando, no, use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:08] <Oli> Next stupid question, is there a default root password, I dont remeber that I was asked at install time, only to set up a normal user :/
[10:09] <Morimando> sudo passwd root <= to set a root password, since Ubuntu doesn't have one normally
[10:09] <jadedstar> Chemisus: I prefer samba
[10:09] <tritium> !rootsudo
[10:09] <ubotu> I guess rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:09] <thoreauputic> Morimando: there's a long explanation at the top of the xorg.conf file
[10:09] <apokryphos> Morimando: don't tell 'em that =)
[10:09] <Morimando> Ubuntu recommends using sudo exclusively
[10:09] <chemisus> jadedstar: any specific reasons?
[10:09] <tritium> Oli, see that URL above
[10:09] <up2zion22> why is it so hard to print in linux
[10:09] <up2zion22> why is it so hard to print in ubuntu
[10:09] <jadedstar> Chemisus: Honestly? It has that 'Windows' feel lol
[10:09] <thoreauputic> Morimando: you are giving out advice that isn't appropriate for Ubuntu
[10:09] <Morimando> up2zion22, because the hardware manufacturers don't care about Linux
[10:10] <Morimando> thoreauputic, why?
[10:10] <Seveas> Morimando, read that wikipage
[10:10] <Seveas> it has a lengthy discussion about it
[10:10] <chemisus> jadedstar:  ok, thanks. is there anything that it has to offer over nfs? or vice versa?
[10:10] <Draal> Howdy.. Trying to install Ubuntu, I'm able to do everything up until the "instal Base system" step, wherein half way through, a red screen flashes that says "Unable to Install Base System, et, etc" and asks me to view a log
[10:10] <Seveas> simpy said: it's safer
[10:10] <LittleDan> up2zion22, it's not an ubuntu thing
[10:10] <Draal> Gone through two CD's (ordered from the main website) and both have the problem
[10:10] <Draal> Whats wrong?
[10:10] <apokryphos> It's a superior model
[10:10] <thoreauputic> Morimando: because there are better ways that have been worked out over years of Debian development
[10:10] <Seveas> Draal, how much memory/diskspace do you have?
[10:10] <Oli> k, i've tail -f now on /dev/input/mouse0 /dev/input/mice and /dev/psaux  just to see if there anything happen, nothing. Maybe my psport is fuxx0red
[10:11] <jadedstar> Chemisus: Not that I'm aware of. As with most things in Linux, it's all about preference and trying everything to see what you in specific like best.
[10:11] <up2zion22> Seveas: pls help
[10:11] <Draal> Seveas 9 gig partition for Ubuntu, 1 gig for swap and 256 megs
[10:11] <Morimando> Seveas, well if it's safer.. he asked how to add a root password, i told him... i myself prefer using "su" over sudo also, so I didn't see a problem with that
[10:11] <chemisus> jadedstar: ok, thanks
[10:11] <jadedstar> Chemisus: No problem. :-)
[10:12] <LittleDan> how do I make a symlink (sorry for all of these questions)?
[10:12] <apokryphos> Morimando: ubuntu isn't set up to use su
[10:12] <arkais> when i try to install de sdl, in the instructions says type ./configure, but is not in de SDL file
[10:12] <Seveas> Morimando, policy in here is that if someone asks how to set a root password that someone cleraly does not know enough about sudo so we educate about sudo instead
[10:12] <apokryphos> Morimando: hence, you shouldn't advise members to use the idiosyncratic method, when they're starting up.
[10:13] <thoreauputic> Morimando: you might have noticed by now that several people have said similar things: perhaps there's a reason for that?
[10:13] <Oli> mhh i go check BIOS, alse I take my ps2/usb adapter
[10:13] <lewion> hey Seveas merci vor de opmerking op unregged e
[10:13] <lewion> and now i'll talk english :p
[10:13] <Morimando> I just don't think he'd get it working with just reconfiguring X. If the install hasn't made it right, why should it work now?
[10:13] <Seveas> lewion, ?
[10:14] <paines> hi
[10:14] <epyon> hi
[10:14] <lewion> Seveas, dacht even dat ik ubuntu zat in plaats van unregged
[10:14] <lewion> in ubuntu
[10:14] <Seveas> :)
[10:14] <lewion> :p
[10:14] <lewion> dus merci
[10:14] <paines> any other amd64 pre breezy users experiencing cedega not working anymorre after updating to breezy from hoary
[10:14] <tritium> Morimando, because it's a reconfiguration where he can fix things
[10:14] <Seveas> anyway, brb, router is acting up on me so i'll have to reset the bastard
[10:14] <paines> amd64 users
[10:15] <Morimando> so i suggested he takes a look himself. With that "su" thing, i think it's a choice about what one likes best. But well I won't suggest "sudo passwd root" anymore, aight?
[10:15] <lillpelle> Hello. I have problems playing movies from my digital camera with mplayer and vlc. mplayer can't even play them and vlc plays them, but sound and video is not synced. Sound plays alot faster than video. Any ideas? Running the versions from Ubuntu 5.04.
[10:15] <apokryphos> Morimando: yes, good idea. Link to the Wiki always.
[10:15] <Morimando> tritium, as long as it doesn't ASK him where his mouse's node is...
[10:15] <nlogax> Draal - I had the same problem, it's a corrupt CD or ISO file
[10:15] <lillpelle> If it helps, I can put one video online...
[10:16] <apokryphos> heh, same
[10:16] <deadcat> the mouse on my powerbook g4 1.6gig doesnt move. any idea why?
[10:16] <Morimando> o'aight then, tritium ;)
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Morimando: the distinction is this: more experienced users may use differing methods - new users benefit by being taught the usual/ traitional Debian/Ubuntu methods
[10:16] <Draal> Nlogax ~ Really? These CD's came from the official Ubuntu presses
[10:17] <nlogax> Draal well, either that or the CD drive is faulty
[10:17] <Morimando> thoreauputic, what's enerving about sudo is the total lack of tab completion of the desired command, which i don't think to be very friendly
[10:17] <spayne> can i have any advice on installing RealPlayer and Sun Java
[10:17] <nlogax> Draal ...presuming that you're not out of disk space
[10:17] <spayne> since they have been removed from Hoary Extras
[10:17] <spayne> any wiki page?
[10:17] <Draal> Spayne ~ Ya.. Don't
[10:17] <tritium> ubotu, tell spayne about java
[10:17] <thoreauputic> Morimando: you can change thet by editing /etc/bash.bashrc
[10:18] <nlogax> Draal I had the same problem repeatedly - could be a bad batch of CDs at the pressing factory
[10:18] <ken> hello
[10:18] <ken> hello
[10:18] <Morimando> no tool for that *sinister smile*
[10:18] <toshi> hello everybody
[10:18] <Snoblower> can someone help me discover whether or not i still have windows xp? i installed ubuntu for the first time and didn't know what i was doing, so when i came to something about partitions i think i may have installed ubuntu over windows xp, i need help :(
[10:18] <Draal> nlogax ~ Did you burn your own CDs?
[10:18] <spayne> it has been removed from hoary extars
[10:18] <thoreauputic> Morimando: there's a block there you can uncomment for tab completion
[10:18] <spayne> so why does the wikipage mention hoary-extras
[10:18] <nlogax> Draal Yes.  I think in my case it was due to the fact that I copied the file whilst I was sharing it with BitTorrent
[10:19] <nlogax> Draal I tried 2 different burners and 3 x different CD-RWs, 3 different downloads of the .ISOs
[10:19] <LittleDan> Snowblower, if you did the default partitioning, you don't have windows anymore
[10:19] <bobbyd> Snoblower, run cfdisk, see if the partition is there
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Morimando: you should be happy - wow ! Something you can edit *grin*
[10:19] <LittleDan> Snowblower, or you could just restart the computer
[10:19] <Draal> nlogax took ya awhile to figure out I guess
[10:19] <nlogax> I thought default partitioning was to resize the Windows partition !?
[10:19] <LittleDan> that's not what it did to my computer
[10:19] <LittleDan> but I'm not sure
[10:19] <Draal> heh heh
[10:20] <LittleDan> maybe it was my fault that it deleted windows
[10:20] <Morimando> thoreauputic, I'd be more happy if someone told me how to catch and edit/assign the events my Fn key generates
[10:20] <nlogax> Draal yep!  I was very annoyed - I even tried the Gnome 2.12 liveCD and had the same prob
[10:20] <spayne> what about RealPlayer?
[10:20] <tritium> Snoblower, what does sudo fdisk -l tell you?  Do you see an NTFS partition?
[10:20] <ken> oh
[10:20] <Draal> nlogax So it was bittorent?
[10:20] <thoreauputic> Morimando: hmmm (guess follows)  xev ?
[10:20] <Draal> Spayne ~ Use Totem Player
[10:20] <Draal> Or mplayer
[10:20] <esac_> is there a way to get amarok 1.3.1 without installing breezy ?
[10:20] <Morimando> thoreauputic, nope xev catches the multimedia keys but doesn't react to Fn+something
[10:20] <nlogax> I was SCP copying the file off my Internet box whilst it was still being shared on BT. Not sure if that caused it, but as soon as I Ctrl+C killed BT and copied it again it worked
[10:21] <spayne> but i would like RealPlayer :)
[10:21] <Snoblower> tritium, i don't know, i'm new to linux, i don't know what i'm looking for...
[10:21] <Draal> Spayne ~ Try Helix player
[10:21] <toshi> does anyone use apache, and have the libapache-mod-php5 installed? I can't view my pages, I get error messages
[10:21] <bam_> xmmms
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Morimando: ah well, worth a guess anyway - otherwise I don't know :)
[10:21] <bam_> or beep
[10:21] <Draal> nlogax Good good
[10:21] <ken> hohohoho
[10:22] <Draal> This is a real bitch though..
[10:22] <tritium> Snoblower, does sudo fdisk -l list any partition as HPFS/NTFS under the "System" heading?
[10:22] <spayne> i would like to play Real Media Files
[10:22] <Morimando> thoreauputic, i was impressed how much of it Ubuntu setup by default, but now i am stuck. Seems like i first need to built my own kernel and then look closely at ACPI events
[10:22] <Snoblower> tritium, no
[10:22] <spayne> i will get the bin
[10:22] <tritium> Snoblower, it sounds unlikely that you kept WinXP
[10:22] <Snoblower> shit
[10:23] <thoreauputic> Morimando: I would suggest posting a question to the users mailing list
[10:23] <Morimando> But well... better than waiting all day for my poor Pentium IV M 1,8 to compile Sourcemage and then working all that by hand ;)
[10:23] <dazzed> is ubuntuguide.org down?
[10:23] <ken> nope
[10:23] <Morimando> thoreauputic, I posted it at a German linux forum, the Ubuntu forum and the Gentoo forum, now i need to wait, it seems
[10:24] <fivetwentysix> whats a good media player for ubuntu that can play most codecs?
[10:24] <apokryphos> dazzed: it goes down often
[10:24] <Oli> Okey mouse is running :o)
[10:24] <Draal> Morimando ~ I'm sure they will appreciate multiple forum postings
[10:24] <dazzed>  apokryphos gay
[10:24] <dazzed> lol
[10:24] <ken> iin
[10:24] <Morimando> fivetwentysix, i'd say mplayer
[10:24] <Draal> fivetwentysix: mplayer
[10:24] <apokryphos> dazzed: no, not gay; just bad servers.
[10:24] <thoreauputic> Morimando: I strongly recommend the users mailing list - high traffic and read by some very clueful people
[10:24] <fivetwentysix> can i get it from repositries, Morimando?
[10:24] <dazzed> thoreauputic: long time  no see
[10:24] <arkainium> how do I wake the machine from acpi suspend?
[10:24] <Draal> fivetwentysix: Check out the Official Ubuntu FAQ for a way to get mplayer up and running with mp3 support
[10:24] <Gobbla> fivetwentysix: vlc
[10:24] <shrike__> fivetwentysix, I like vlc for most stuff
[10:24] <Morimando> Draal, sure they will, I worked long with gentoo, so they won't mind
[10:25] <up2zion22> is the printer port lp0=parallel or serial
[10:25] <Morimando> fivetwentysix, you should
[10:25] <tritium> parallel, up2zion22
[10:25] <fivetwentysix> whats the command?
[10:25] <thoreauputic> dazzed: oh, I've been around - just less active than usual :)
[10:25] <up2zion22> tritium, you mean the big cable? not the usb?
[10:25] <Morimando> thoreauputic, I will frequent the mailing list, too, thanks for the tip
[10:25] <Gobbla> fivetwentysix: sudo apt-get vlc
[10:25] <Gobbla> :)
[10:25] <dazzed> thoreauputic: its me that has been less active...since i have been home from college this is one of the first times i have got my linux machine on the net :)
[10:25] <tritium> up2zion22, yes, it's large
[10:26] <Draal> fivetwentysix: Why not just use synaptic?
[10:26] <Morimando> there's so little information about specifics like that, i think i need every ressource i can get
[10:26] <fivetwentysix> good question :-)
[10:26] <ken>
[10:26] <ken> huhu
[10:26] <ken> micha
[10:26] <ken> jona
[10:26] <ken> koli
[10:27] <Gobbla> fivetwentysix:  ive heard good things about kaffein too, try it if you want
[10:27] <tritium> strange
[10:28] <dazzed> i have a question for anyone that can solve this complex trivia....all my internet applications (limewire, gaim, irssi...etc) work just fine EXCEPT mozilla firefox...i find i have to disable and enable the lan connection on the host computer (winblows machine) for web browsing to work...this is on all computers on the network not just nix machines
[10:28] <Morimando> By the way: does anyone know exactly why w32codecs isn't in the repos any more?
[10:28] <Gobbla> *kaffeine
[10:28] <Oli> nice nice this ubuntu :O
[10:28] <apokryphos> Morimando: legal reasons
[10:28] <arkainium> anyone know how to resume after an S3 suspend?
[10:28] <nlogax> Draal, use CTRL+ALT+F2 to get a terminal and look in /var/log at the various files there
[10:28] <apokryphos> Gobbla: it's pretty good; newer versions have gstreamer/xine choice, which is cool.
[10:28] <Draal> Dazzed; erm.. Pretty obvious something is wrong with the host machine
[10:28] <Draal> nlogax: you can do this on the CD during installation?
[10:29] <Morimando> apokryphos, it was in restricted because of that, but now it's even gone there
[10:29] <apokryphos> Gobbla: there hadn't been much progression video-player-wise in KDE because there were so many people making different players. Kaffeine is getting more organised, though, now.
[10:29] <dazzed> Draal: well duhhh...but i have tried everything...and everything is most definately configured right...and its awkward that it only affects web browsing and no other internet application
[10:29] <Gobbla> anyone got a solution for me not being able to play (unencrypted) dvds?
[10:29] <apokryphos> Morimando: then it was moved to hoary-extras, and it was taken out of there too eventually.
[10:29] <thoreauputic> dazzed: sounds far fetched, but some people have found disabling ipv6 in about:config has made FF work for them
[10:29] <Draal> dazzed: may want to try #windows
[10:30] <psusi> arkainium: hit the powe rbutton
[10:30] <LittleDan> I did "sudo update-alternatives --install gcc-4.0 cc /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 30" and then when I tried cc, it said command not found
[10:30] <Draal> Or a forum for the OS
[10:30] <Gobbla> apokryphos: ok
[10:30] <dazzed> Draal: you may want to try actually helping people if your going to talk
[10:30] <Draal> Since you already identified its not the Unix boxes
[10:30] <nlogax> Draal yep
[10:30] <dazzed> Draal: and if i were to boot that machine up in nix then it would still have the same problem
[10:30] <up2zion22> tritium, ubuntu detected the printer. but still it wont print
[10:30] <dazzed> so its not the os its the connection between the computers and the sharing
[10:31] <dazzed> please if you dont know what your talking about please just keep quiet
[10:31] <tritium> up2zion22, did you configure it?  are you using hoary?  what printer?  Please provide as much detail as you can
[10:31] <nlogax> Draal - also, if it were bad sectors on the CD, swapping the CD for the other one you've got when it has the error might get you past (presuming they have random bad sectors)
[10:31] <Morimando> apokryphos, means i need to get & compile the codecs myself?
[10:31] <tritium> dazzed, you mean "you're" ?  ;)
[10:31] <Draal> nlogax: they seem to stop around the same area, I'll try that though
[10:32] <apokryphos> Morimando: hoary?
[10:32] <nlogax> I'd check the logs etc then
[10:32] <Draal> I ordered a Debian DVD set, so perhaps I'll just wait for that
[10:32] <Gobbla> no one huh? :(
[10:32] <dazzed> hehe
[10:32] <ips_> Hello
[10:32] <nlogax> Gobbla unencrypted DVDs?  home-made?
[10:33] <Gobbla> nlogax: nope
[10:33] <nlogax> can you play standard encrypted DVDs?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> dazzed: seriously, try disabling ipv6 in about:config and see if it helps - you can reverse it with a click anyway
[10:33] <Gobbla> nlogax: havent tried
[10:33] <ips_> Anyone knows anything about the audio on ubuntu?
[10:33] <shrike__> dazzed, can you ping using dns names before you disable/enable?
[10:33] <Gobbla> it plays in windows just fine
[10:33] <nlogax> can you access files on data DVDs?
[10:33] <Gobbla> dunno
[10:33] <Draal> Gobbla: You mean region free?
[10:33] <Morimando> ?
[10:33] <Gobbla> i mean some dude have decrypted it
[10:33] <dazzed> thoreauputic: gave that a shot no luck
[10:33] <thoreauputic> ips_: no, no-one knows anything about audio </joke>
[10:33] <dazzed> shrike__: yes
[10:33] <nlogax> Gobbla hmm you'd need to find out what CoDec it uses...
[10:33] <thoreauputic> dazzed: OK
[10:34] <Gobbla> i found some info on a ubuntu page
[10:34] <Gobbla> didnt help
[10:34] <nlogax> for encrypted DVDs it's the DeCSS thingy
[10:34] <Gobbla> installed some packages that is
[10:34] <ips_> thor: would you know how to increase the mic volume directly (not oss or alsa or anything)
[10:34] <thoreauputic> ips_: it might help if you made your question more specific
[10:34] <Gobbla> nlogax: cant find that pakage in synaptic
[10:34] <Morimando> apokryphos, I need to compile w32codecs myself, then? sorry for re-asking, i accidentally stepped on my switch and the cable slipped out (clip is damaged :( )
[10:34] <tritium> Gobbla, that's a really vague explanation of what you did
[10:35] <Gobbla> ok, lemme bring more clarity in it then
[10:35] <thoreauputic> ish: have you tried running alsamixer in a terminal ?
[10:35] <apokryphos> Morimando: you didn't answer the Q (or I didn't see). Are you on hoary?
[10:35] <Morimando> apokryphos, yes I am on hoary
[10:35] <Gobbla> libdvdcss2
[10:35] <Gandi> Guten Abend.
[10:35] <dazzed> shrike__: when i ping...it only returns one ping
[10:35] <dooglus> when I install a new package using apt-get, it installs all the dependancies too.  when I uninstall it, it never removes the dependancies.  can I ask it to?
[10:35] <Gobbla> shouldnt that ber enough?
[10:35] <apokryphos> Morimando: giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ -- you can grab it from there.
[10:36] <Morimando> thanks
[10:36] <Seveas> you can't compile w32codecs yourself
[10:36] <ips_> thor:I am trying to use Skype under Linux and my mic volume is too low, if I increase the alsa or oss mic volume it doesn't do anything. Skype seems to access /dev/dsp directly.
[10:36] <shrike__> dazzed, ehh? thats a little strange
[10:36] <Seveas> they're binary-only...
[10:36] <dazzed> shrike__: your telling me
[10:36] <dooglus> for example, I install "circuslinux".  it also installs "circuslinux-data".  I then uninstall it, and "circuslinux-data" stays behind, even though it's now useless to me.
[10:36] <Gobbla> tritium, nlogax i have installed the libdvdcss2 pakage
[10:36] <tritium> dooglus, aptitude can do that
[10:36] <dooglus> tritium: I tried aptitude.  it did the same.
[10:36] <dooglus> tritium: is there some special aptitude command I should use?
[10:36] <tritium> dooglus, you have to use aptitude to install as well as remove for that to work
[10:37] <dooglus> tritium: so it's too late for me?
[10:37] <lucaas> i've dist-upgraded to breezy, but x wont work directly, should i reinstall nvidia-glx or install kerne source + nvidia driver?
[10:37] <shrike__> dazzed, I have had problems with ipv6 in firefox but this seems unrelated..this is accross win and unix machines?
[10:37] <dazzed> hmmmm...guess its back to using the 56k then since i can't get this connection to work properly
[10:37] <thoreauputic> dooglus: you might want to try installing deborphan
[10:37] <dazzed> shrike__: yes
[10:37] <dooglus> thoreauputic: might I?
[10:37] <tritium> dooglus, you could try using debfoster
[10:38] <shrike__> dazzed, what kind of router?
[10:38] <dazzed> shrike__: it has nix on the box...but i use windows since its my sisters computer and she is computer illeterate
[10:38] <dooglus> tritium: could I?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> dooglus: well, deborphan will find orphaned packages :)
[10:38] <dazzed> shrike__: Dlink
[10:38] <dooglus> thoreauputic: ooh, that sounds good.
[10:38] <tritium> dooglus, yes, or deborphan as thoreauputic suggests
[10:38] <apokryphos> dooglus: what are you trying to do?
[10:38] <dazzed> shrike__: i use the router to connect to my laptop...and my laptop ddials up and everything is just fine web browsing pinging and all
[10:38] <dooglus> apokryphos: I'm trying to make some disk space...  I'm very low after compiling a kernel.
[10:38] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: burn his dead wood :)
[10:39] <jadedstar> apkrphos: he's trying to remove orphaned dependancies
[10:39] <dazzed> but i can't do dialup
[10:39] <apokryphos> Ok; deborphan is perfect, yes. Debfoster for more, if need be.
[10:39] <jadedstar> apkryphos: he's trying to remove orphaned dependancies
[10:39] <dooglus> apokryphos: and I noticed that I had "circuslinux-data" installed, without "circuslinux".  so I imagine I have many more 'useless' orphans on my system.
[10:39] <loki> hello
[10:39] <apokryphos> =)
[10:39] <ips_> thor: so do u have an idea as to what I should try?
[10:39] <loki> hello
[10:40] <ips_> loki: hi
[10:40] <jadedstar> loki: Hi :-)
[10:40] <shrike__> dazzed, does this happen only when it goes from your sister using windows to you booting *nx or vis-versa?
[10:40] <thoreauputic> ips_: well, skype is mystery wrapped in an enigma - it is closed source
[10:40] <shrike__> dazzed, other words if it is windows and you reboot do you have the problem
[10:41] <shrike__> dazzed, win- reboot to win
[10:41] <thoreauputic> ips_: by the way if you want me to see your posts, tab complete my nick
[10:41] <loki> o ok you can see me can some one tell me a way to get voice working in yahoo i am a new person to this flavor of linux i am a fc3 person and not to good with linux yet
[10:41] <loki> brb
[10:41] <loki> sorry
[10:42] <GhostFreeman> I need some help picking out a kernel to build
[10:42] <ips_> thoreauputic: Oh ok. Right.. but I think that if I manage to directly increase the /dev/dsp mic volume things should work, would u know how to do that?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> ips_: I don't personally - someone else might: is your pcm volume high?
[10:43] <ips_> thoreauputic: yeah my pcm volume is on max, but I think this is only the alsa and oss settings.
[10:44] <ips_> GhostFreeman: why don't you just build the latest?
[10:45] <GhostFreeman> which one, 386 486 or 686?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> ips_: the resident sound guru is crimsun - if he's around he might have words of wisdom for you
[10:45] <ompaul> dooglus, you could do a make clean at the top of the tree where you did you make in the first place
[10:45] <GhostFreeman> I have a (rather old) 600MHz Celeron
[10:45] <david_2k5> hy
[10:45] <Seveas> GhostFreeman, 686
[10:45] <ips_> thoreauputic, ok, thanks :)
[10:45] <GhostFreeman> alright
[10:45] <fivetwentysix> i cant find mplayer in the reposotries?
[10:45] <Seveas> fivetwentysix, enable multiverse then
[10:46] <GhostFreeman> Isnt there an application on APT that will help me compile a kernel
[10:46] <Seveas> GhostFreeman, if you don't know how to cimpile a kernel, then don't...
[10:46] <fivetwentysix> Seveas how?
[10:46] <ips_> fivetwentysix,  u have to add multiverse
[10:46] <Seveas> !sources
[10:46] <ubotu> methinks sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:46] <Seveas> ^-- fivetwentysix that's how
[10:46] <dooglus> thoreauputic: thanks for suggesting deborphan.  that helped a lot
[10:47] <Seveas> dooglus, debfoster is even better ;)
[10:47] <thoreauputic> dooglus: you're welcome :)
[10:47] <david_2k5> I have a problem with installing java application =>david@linux:~/download/pakete/azureus$ java -jar Azureus2305-B27.jar
[10:47] <david_2k5> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine
[10:47] <ompaul> dooglus, make clean at the top of the tree may help
[10:47] <fivetwentysix> Yes
[10:47] <fivetwentysix> I have all those enabled
[10:47] <fivetwentysix> But they dont have mplayer
[10:47] <david_2k5> can anybody help me?
[10:48] <Seveas> david_2k5, sun java installed?
[10:48] <ips_> fivetwentysix, add multiverse!
[10:48] <ompaul> !tell fivetwentysix about restricted
[10:48] <dooglus> ompaul: rm -r at the top of the tree will probably help more :)
[10:48] <bobbyd> this is weird, I can't see gimp in synaptic
[10:48] <Seveas> fivetwentysix, they do
[10:48] <Seveas> search better :)
[10:48] <Seveas> !info gimp
[10:48] <ubotu> gimp: (The GNU Image Manipulation Program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.2.2-1ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 2755 kB, Installed size: 7704 kB
[10:48] <dooglus> Seveas: I looked at debfoster but wasn't sure it's what I need
[10:48] <Seveas> it's there though bobbyd if your sources.list is correct
[10:49] <david_2k5> yes Seveas
[10:49] <thoreauputic> uh oh
[10:50] <skel_> breezy rules
[10:50] <peter1984> makre
[10:50] <david_2k5> breezy is great
[10:50] <pkern> Seveas: Just ban <IP_ADDRESS>?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> Seveas: they never give up, it seems...
[10:50] <fivetwentysix> Seveas you mean deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted?
[10:50] <Seveas> pkern, won't help....
[10:50] <pkern> k
[10:50] <Seveas> they have a big botnet..
[10:51] <Seveas> fivetwentysix, no
[10:51] <david_2k5> java version "1.5.0_05"
[10:51] <david_2k5> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_05-b05)
[10:51] <david_2k5> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_05-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
[10:51] <peter1984> In suse there is a file called kernel, located in etc/sysconfig. Where is it in ubuntu?
[10:51] <Seveas> peter1984, that's some suse-specific crud, what does the file specify>?
[10:51] <Seveas> fivetwentysix, I meant multiverse...
[10:51] <deadcat> the mouse is not moving on my powerbook. what do i need to do?
[10:52] <peter1984> The initrd location
[10:52] <fivetwentysix> ahh
[10:52] <Seveas> deadcat, mice don't like cats, morph into a piece of cheese :)
[10:52] <fivetwentysix> nevermidn got it :-)
[10:52] <thoreauputic> deadcat: change your nick to livecat ;-)
[10:53] <peter1984> I need to load a dsdt file in the initrd, but how!!!
[10:53] <david_2k5> what signs this message "org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine"
[10:53] <Seveas> peter1984, on ubuntu systems the kernel packages take care of that
[10:53] <skel_> how do i minizmize the gnome-xchat
[10:53] <deadcat> help me please (=. not working
[10:53] <skel_> dotn see a way
[10:53] <Seveas> hit the minimize button....
[10:53] <Seveas> in the top right corner
[10:54] <skel_> i mine go to the tray
[10:54] <peter1984> Seveas How do i do it?
[10:54] <skel_> mean*
[10:54] <skel_> :P
[10:54] <Seveas> skel_, install the xchat-systray (oslt) package
[10:54] <kevor> http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=32572101041c04d88a5aa3&m=screen <-- what's the top right program called?
[10:54] <Seveas> peter1984, i must confess to have no idea about it sinc eI never needed to do it :)
[10:55] <Seveas> kevor, probably it's a gdesklet
[10:55] <TokenBad> ok folks...I don't have electricsheep installed and I downloaded deb file for the new electricsheep 2.6 and did sudo dpkg -i electricsheep_2.6.2-1~hoary1_i386.deb and during the proccess of installing it errors out saying it can't overwrite /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/electricsheep.xml...anyone tell me how to fix this?
[10:55] <kevor> gdesklets is rather buggy... nothing else that does something like that?
[10:55] <peter1984> Ohh ive done it many times on suse, but it is a lot harder on ubuntu!
[10:56] <skel_> Seveas:  is then says i must remove gnome-Xchat
[10:56] <lucaas> i dist-upgraded to breezy, and tried installing the nvidia driver, but i couldnt get the 2.6.12 kerne source as there only is a 2.6.11 package, what should i do?
[10:56] <lucaas> :S
[10:57] <Seveas> skel_, where did you get that from? it's not an Ubuntu package...
[10:57] <TokenBad> anyone know?
[10:58] <ompaul> TokenBad, where did you get that .deb from?
[10:58] <lucaas> TokenBad: you run itn with sudo, right?
[10:58] <skel_> yea it is lol i am on breezy
[10:58] <skel_> its this sweet new version of x-chat
[10:59] <loki> back sorry
[10:59] <ompaul> TokenBad, where did you get that .deb from? if it is not for you exact distribution then don't use it
[10:59] <TokenBad> ompaul, got the deb file from http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fe%2Felectricsheep%2Felectricsheep_2.6.2-1~hoary1_i386.deb&md5sum=c0b47404763b62b7b9f4cc681a64d316&arch=i386&type=main
[10:59] <TokenBad> thats where got the deb file from
[11:01] <ompaul> TokenBad, do this, ls /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/electric* and see if you get a result
[11:01] <loki> dose anyone use yahoo messanger here
[11:01] <lucaas> anyone gnows what i should do?
[11:01] <LinuxJones> lucaas, did you re-boot your computer after the upgrade ?
[11:01] <ompaul> loki, use gaim
[11:01] <lucaas> LinuxJones: i did
[11:02] <loki> i know that but gaim dose not have voice
[11:02] <LinuxJones> lucaas, breezy uses the 2.6.12 kernel and you should have no problems with installing the nvidia drivers
[11:02] <GhostFreeman> Whats the command for the Xorg config utility
[11:02] <LinuxJones> lucaas, did you compile your own kernel ?
[11:02] <shrike__> loki, you cant use messenger with wine?
[11:02] <ompaul> TokenBad, is there something there?
[11:02] <lucaas> LinuxJones: no, i got one precompiled
[11:02] <LinuxJones> GhostFreeman, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:02] <GhostFreeman> ok, thanks
[11:02] <LinuxJones> lucaas, do uname -r in a terminal window
[11:03] <loki> no it just plan will not work it is to laber dependent
[11:03] <lucaas> LinuxJones: 2.6.12-8-386
[11:03] <loki> all i need is voice in yahoo
[11:03] <TokenBad> ompaul says no file or dir
[11:04] <LinuxJones> lucaas, ok now do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:04] <funkyHat> is anyone else having trouble getting all the breezy repositories? i seem to be getting similar problems to the ones i was getting on hoary :(
[11:04] <loki> you would think the linux world some one would have done it by now
[11:04] <funkyHat> it's being worked on loki. lol
[11:04] <lucaas> LinuxJones: ok, done
[11:04] <dooglus> I built and installed a kernel yesterday.  How can I uninstall it now?
[11:04] <loki> and its a big thing for me so i eather find a way or i use windows for it
[11:05] <h08817> i was wondering if anyone knows what a RAM parity error means?
[11:05] <psusi> means you have bad ram
[11:05] <LinuxJones> lucaas, perfect now do  sudo nvidia-glx-config
[11:05] <nalioth> loki: look at gaim-vv
[11:05] <h08817> psusi: o ok thanks i get it every once in a while but if i reboot it goes away
[11:05] <bobbyd> loki, there is a messenger that does voice, a newish one
[11:05] <ompaul> TokenBad, so do this >>sudo touch /usr/share/xscreensaver/config/electricsheep.xml<< then try again - report it as a bug if that is the fix point that out :)
[11:06] <GhostFreeman> What would be the ideal xorg driver for a 16MB Voodoo 3?
[11:06] <lucaas> LinuxJones: it tells me that my x configuration is altered and that it cannot proceed automatically
[11:06] <LinuxJones> lucaas, ok we can do it manually
[11:06] <lucaas> alter driver to nvidia?
[11:07] <lucaas> change*
[11:07] <TokenBad> says same thing
[11:07] <loki> so i get to go learn how to install stuff in this distro ok
[11:07] <loki> and is gnome all i can use
[11:08] <LinuxJones> lucaas, do sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:08] <TokenBad> ompaul, says same thing...
[11:08] <ompaul> TokenBad, check if the file now exists - use the up arrow to go back the couple of commands to the >>ls ... << command
[11:08] <thoreauputic> loki: you can use anything you like - xfce4, KDE, fluxbox, etc etc
[11:08] <TokenBad> say its there now
[11:08] <LinuxJones> lucaas, yes if your familiar you can change the driver to nvidia and ensure that glx is added to the loadable modules section
[11:08] <dooglus> if I run "dpkg -l" I don't see anything that looks like the kernel I built and installed yesterday.  any idea what the package I built would be called?
[11:08] <Echelon-H> what is the command to shutdown totally?
[11:09] <loki> what is the defalt package handeler
[11:09] <thoreauputic> dooglus: you built a deb for it?
[11:09] <fivetwentysix> How do i get w32codecs installed?
[11:09] <ompaul> Echelon-H, sudo shutdown -h now
[11:09] <lucaas> LinuxJones: i have Load   "glx" under Section "module, and driver   "nvidia" under Section "device"
[11:09] <Echelon-H> loki: synaptic?
[11:09] <Echelon-H> ompaul: thanks
[11:09] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I did.  I ran "make-kpkg --initrd --revision=cim.<IP_ADDRESS> kernel_image" like the readme told me to.
[11:09] <thoreauputic> loki: apt or synaptic (GUI front end)
[11:09] <lucaas> LinuxJones: i cant use gedit since im in console :>
[11:09] <loki> package
[11:10] <loki> .package
[11:10] <loki> not the gui sorry
[11:10] <thoreauputic> dooglus: is it in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[11:10] <dooglus> hahah.  so it's called "kernel-image".  duh.  I was grepping for "linux" and couldn't find it...
[11:10] <ompaul> TokenBad, paste the whole output of the dpkg command to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:10] <thoreauputic> dooglus: aha
[11:10] <lampshade> dooglus:  Happened to me before too
[11:10] <LinuxJones> lucaas, that's ok now type sudo modprobe nvidia, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:10] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I clean the cache regularly
[11:10] <thoreauputic> dooglus: OK
[11:11] <fivetwentysix> How do i play Windows Media 9 files ?
[11:11] <thoreauputic> dooglus: but you just discovered that the system believed you when you named it kernel-image *grin*
[11:11] <dooglus> the kernel I built works fine other than the screen is black while it boots.
[11:11] <Seveas> fivetwentysix, grab the w32codecs deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:12] <dooglus> I don't see anything at all until the gdm login screen appears (other than the bios stuff, and the dots while the kernel uncompresses)
[11:12] <thoreauputic> dooglus: you should suggest this as a way to reduce confusion among new users ;-)
[11:13] <dooglus> thoreauputic: my 6 'virtual consoles' are all black on black too.
[11:13] <dooglus> I can log into them and work in them, but it's all black.
[11:13] <TokenBad> ompaul, done
[11:13] <thoreauputic> dooglus: ah - not so good
[11:13] <thoreauputic> dooglus: setterm might help...
[11:13] <funkyHat> dooglus, you could try looking up various vga= kernel modes and trying them
[11:13] <funkyHat> or thoreauputic's suggestion sounds better ;)
[11:14] <thoreauputic> or both indeed :)
[11:14] <dooglus> actually today they're not black.  I see what looks like an alien's version of gnome in them.
[11:14] <ompaul> TokenBad, I have no further ideas, I was hoping for that to be the way
[11:14] <thoreauputic> dooglus: well, your new kernel is entertaining at least :)
[11:14] <dooglus> funkyHat: I don't need to specify a vga= when booting the regular kernel.  and mine has the same config as the regular one.
[11:14] <ompaul> TokenBad, I would figure something else out
[11:14] <funkyHat> oh
[11:14] <dooglus> what's setterm?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> dooglus: man setterm *evil grin*
[11:15] <funkyHat> lol
[11:15] <ompaul> thoreauputic, :0
[11:15] <funkyHat> you aren't allowed to say that in here
[11:15] <funkyHat> ;)
[11:16] <thoreauputic> actually  man setterm is that rare thing: a man page that makes sense ;)
[11:16] <lucaas> LinuxJones: it still doesnt work :/
[11:17] <dooglus> thoreauputic: setterm doesn't seem to have any effect on the VCs
[11:17] <thoreauputic> setterm --help is probably useful enough actually
[11:17] <thoreauputic> dooglus: oh. Is your /etc/inittab normal looking?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> should be I guess, since the kernel has nothing to do with it really
[11:18] <LinuxJones> lucaas, you were messing around with your xorg config file manually, follow the steps at the top of the file. then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg follow the prompts, ask if you don't know the answer to any question
[11:18] <fivetwentysix> seveas
[11:18] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I have 2 kernels installed - the regular breezy one, and the one I built myself.  One has working VCs, the other doesn't.  So it can't be anything about /etc/inittab, right?  Or vga= options.  Can it?
[11:18] <fivetwentysix> do i need a password?
[11:18] <apprentice> when is the new ubntu out