[05:21]  * Kilos waves to everyone. will be offline for the day as soon as eskom cuts the power
[05:21] <Kilos> you all be good ok?
[05:27] <Squirm> morning
[05:27] <magespawn> Good morning
[05:28] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[05:28] <Kilos> lo magespawn
[05:30] <magespawn> Hey Kilos
[05:33] <Kilos> whats news with booting magespawn
[05:34] <Kilos> i will be off anytime after 8 with power cut
[05:36] <magespawn> Still no luck, when I get brak today I will try your directions from last night.
[05:36] <magespawn> Break
[05:36] <Kilos> ok good luck
[05:38] <magespawn> I am actually tempted to do a freash install, kde or xcfe this time.
[05:38] <Kilos> is there nothing of importance on it?
[05:40] <Kilos> follow this first step for step https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:43] <magespawn> No nothing, all the work is stored on external drives.
[05:43] <Kilos> whew thats lucky
[05:45] <magespawn> Old laptop, so as a precuation I was keeping all the data elsewhere.
[05:45] <Kilos> wise move
[05:46] <Kilos> especially if you using it to fix win stuff
[05:46] <magespawn> You learn evetually
[05:46] <magespawn> Even me.
[05:46] <Kilos> hehe
[05:51] <magespawn> Going to try xubuntu.
[05:51] <Kilos> ok
[05:51] <Kilos> just takes getting used to
[05:53] <magespawn> So do a lot of things, keeps the brain flexible.
[05:53] <Kilos> lol
[06:41] <superfly> morning magespawn
[06:41] <magespawn> Hey superfly
[06:51] <superfly> magespawn: sorry, haven't been at my keyboard much since you were asking about the booting issue
[06:52] <magespawn> No worries, like I said it does not have any data on it just programmes.
[06:54] <superfly> magespawn: You could always boot to a CD or USB stick, chroot, and then rerun grub's setup
[07:01] <superfly> ohi yusuf
[07:01] <yusuf> hi ya superfly
[07:01] <superfly> haven't seen you around for a while
[07:01] <yusuf> it's been a looooooooooooooooong time
[07:01] <superfly> :-)
[07:02] <yusuf> maybe a few years, I wonder
[07:02] <yusuf> its just that I hit a brick wall and I remembered a place to shout for help
[07:04] <yusuf> Having some problems with ubuntu server with two nics
[07:05] <superfly> uhuh
[07:05] <yusuf> eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 and eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:05] <yusuf> both dhcp
[07:06] <yusuf> is it possible to route between the two?
[07:06] <superfly> yup
[07:06] <superfly> what do you want to route?
[07:07] <yusuf> for example i want <IP_ADDRESS> to be able to browse the webserver on <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:08] <superfly> route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:08] <superfly> but what you probably want to do is use the ifup hooks to run that
[07:08] <yusuf> on the router <IP_ADDRESS> I have a static route to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:09] <superfly> raoul@resistor:/etc/network/if-up.d
[07:09] <yusuf> ubuntu server is not my router
[07:09] <superfly> urg, not my whole prompt
[07:09] <superfly> yusuf: you asked if you can route between the two nics, I told you how
[07:10] <superfly> yusuf: if your router is external to your server, how is it supposed to route stuff on the server?
[07:11] <yusuf> superfly: i thought setting a static route on the server pointing to <IP_ADDRESS> should solve that
[07:11] <yusuf> sorry static route on the Dlink router
[07:12] <yusuf> lets explain a little better, office block 1 (D-link router with 12 clients)
[07:13] <yusuf> office block 3 (billion router <IP_ADDRESS>)
[07:14] <yusuf> office 2 (using a switch connecting from office 1 - so same network)
[07:15] <yusuf> server in office 2 has two nics (one connected to office 1 network and the other connected to office three)
[07:17] <yusuf> wanted to know if I set a static route on the router from office 1 to the server in office two, will I be able to configure the server to forward this traffic to office three network
[07:18] <yusuf> or is there some other way to get office one and three talking?
[07:19] <yusuf> using port fowarding over ssh to connect to the server in office three from office one at the moment
[07:27] <superfly> yusuf: routing is not that difficult... you just need know where you want the traffic to go, and what range of IPs to route to
[07:37] <yusuf> basically I just want both networks to ping each other
[07:38] <yusuf> superfly: and solution would work even if it means vpn or something
[07:38] <superfly> yusuf: no need for a VPN - otherwise the Internet would only work with VPNs
[07:39] <superfly> yusuf: Routing 101.
[07:39] <superfly> 1. Stuff gets routed via specific routing rules
[07:39] <superfly> 2. If there isn't a routing rule, it gets sent to the default gateway
[07:39] <superfly> 3. That is all.
[07:39] <yusuf> <IP_ADDRESS>	<IP_ADDRESS>	 <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:40] <yusuf> thats my static route on my dlink router
[07:40] <yusuf> if I ping from anywhere on <IP_ADDRESS> I get
[07:40] <superfly> yusuf: every computer does routing
[07:41] <yusuf> From <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=2 Redirect Host(New nexthop: <IP_ADDRESS>)
[07:41] <superfly> all your computers are set up to route stuff via the default gateway
[07:42] <yusuf> but then no response 100% packet loss
[07:45] <superfly> of course not, you haven't told it to route that traffic to an accessible location
[07:45] <superfly> what are you pinging?
[07:47] <yusuf> ok something seems to be working now
[07:48] <yusuf> I added route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS> on the ubuntu server in office three
[07:48] <yusuf> now I can ping office one network
[07:52] <yusuf> superfly: thanks now it works both ways thanks, seems as if the static route on my billion is not working, so adding that route directly to the ubuntu server in office three made the diffrence
[07:53] <superfly> yusuf: As I said a few times already, the routing on the router is not going to affect routing between two nics on a computer
[07:54] <yusuf> superfly: thanks, been scratching my head for two days now
[08:05] <magespawn> Brb
[10:23] <charl> good afternoon
[10:27] <inetpro> charl: wb
[10:49] <nuvolari> o/
[11:29] <not_found> *yawn*
[11:35] <zeref> hmmmm, anybody else having trouble connecting to gmail?
[11:36] <inetpro> Maaz: is https://mail.google.com/ down?
[11:36] <Maaz> inetpro: No, it's just you
[11:36] <inetpro> zeref: working for me and Maaz
[11:37] <zeref> awww
[11:38] <SmilyBorg_w> I overheard the techies saying that there was an issue with SAIX lite adsl accounts, though I can't confirm that
[11:40] <zeref> o0o0, i can view the page with w3m https://mail.google.com/
[11:45] <inetpro> zeref: in that case it's just you :-)
[12:20] <charl> i love logging into google in germany, you get a login screen "google konten"
[12:21] <charl> (fyi, "konten" means a-holes in dutch)
[12:21] <charl> just means accounts in german
[12:22] <not_found> so I guess we hope it is a German site and not a Dutch site
[12:23] <charl> yup, if you find a dutch site with that title, i would be careful
[12:23] <charl> especially considering you have to "log in"
[12:25] <not_found> lol
[12:25] <not_found> oh wait L/
[12:25] <not_found> :/
[12:25] <not_found> :(
[12:26] <charl> the first time i saw it, i didn't know what it means in german, kinda freaked me out
[12:26] <charl> i thought google got hacked or something
[12:26] <charl> on the reverse side, there is this company called "webton" in germany
[12:27] <charl> in german, "ton" means "tone", so the company's english name would have been "webtone"
[12:27] <charl> kind corny, but ok
[12:27] <charl> so they opened up a branch in the netherlands and called it by the same name
[12:27] <charl> problem is, "tone" in dutch is "toon", not "ton"
[12:27] <charl> "ton" however means garbage
[12:28] <charl> so the company literally looks like it's been called "webgarbage"
[12:28] <not_found> it might be
[12:29] <charl> the funniest thing of it all is that they advertise things like "search engine optimisation" and "link building"
[12:29] <charl> i seriously thought somebody was pulling a (very expensive) prank
[12:38] <not_found> haha
[13:46] <magespawn> anybody here with dd-wrt experience?
[14:05] <tumbleweed> yes
[14:05] <tumbleweed> (openwrt is nicer)
[14:25] <magespawn> same sort of hardware support?
[14:26] <tumbleweed> not quite as wide
[14:26] <tumbleweed> also, less friendly web UI
[14:26] <tumbleweed> but far more modern internals and more customiseable
[14:51] <magespawn> cool thank tumbleweed
[14:51] <magespawn> later all
[15:12] <charl> l8r
[16:10] <Ludo> Hi guys, do anybody know of a local certified partner for ubuntu as specified in http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ ?
[16:11] <inetpro> Ludo: I would be surprised if there were any
[16:13] <inetpro> best person to answer that would possibly be tumbleweed, he's been tumbling the world over
[16:13] <Ludo> _sigh_ thanks for giving me the question I don't want to have.
[16:14] <Ludo> answer*
[16:14] <inetpro> :-)
[16:15] <inetpro> Ludo: why do need a certified system, if I may ask?
[16:16] <Ludo> because every system I have tried to use it on since 2008 have its problems. I want to make it the vendors problem.
[16:16] <inetpro> hmm...
[16:16] <Ludo> or it might just be me ;)
[16:17] <inetpro> Ludo: you looking for a laptop or a desktop?
[16:18] <nuvolari> ack :-/ bbl
[16:19] <inetpro> nuvolari: .
[16:19] <Ludo> laptop
[16:19] <inetpro> Ludo: I've had no problems with a Dell Latitude E6220
[16:20] <inetpro> and it's even Certified for Ubuntu
[16:20] <inetpro> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201101-7178/
[16:20] <nuvolari> sal later vanaand weer terug wees
[16:20] <nuvolari> lekker aand almal
[16:20] <inetpro> nuvolari: np
[16:21]  * inetpro wonders whether Kilos got power restored again
[16:21] <inetpro> doesn't look like it though
[16:21] <inetpro> Kilos: eh
[16:22] <Kilos> inetpro, eh
[16:22] <inetpro> I was just talking about you
[16:22] <Kilos> lies again
[16:22] <inetpro> 19/07 18:21:31 -*- inetpro wonders whether Kilos got power restored again
[16:22] <Kilos> lol
[16:22] <inetpro> wb
[16:22] <Kilos> came on 10 mins ago and i gotta get supper ready too
[16:22] <Kilos> ty
[16:22] <inetpro> np
[16:23] <Kilos> thats an advandage of making lotsa food. always some that can come outa freezer and be microwaved
[16:23] <Kilos> evening everyone
[16:25] <inetpro> from #ubuntu-meeting 19/07 18:19:48 <mhall119> everyone can watch Mark's keynote at OSCON here: http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/content/video
[16:25] <Kilos> aw
[16:28] <inetpro> oops
[16:28] <inetpro> that's actually from #ubuntu-community-team
[16:28] <Kilos> ty
[16:28] <inetpro> Dell is coming with pre-installed systems in the American market
[16:32] <inetpro> nice! First class web applications will be directly in the desktop
[16:32] <inetpro> Ubuntu 12.10 will be awesome!
[16:34] <inetpro> ok, he's done
[16:34] <inetpro> and now it's dinner time
[16:34]  * inetpro bbl
[16:38] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[16:39] <Kilos> from #ubuntu-meeting 19/07 18:19:48 <mhall119> everyone can watch Mark's keynote at OSCON here: http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/content/video
[16:59] <tumbleweed> Ludo, inetpro: there are local certified support companies
[16:59] <tumbleweed> don't know who offhand, though
[17:26] <Kilos> wb Ludo
[17:28] <Ludo> thanks Kilos
[17:28] <Ludo> tumbleweed, thanks
[17:34] <charl> hi
[17:38] <Kilos> hi charl
[17:41] <tumbleweed> lsd systems, IIRC?
[17:46] <Kilos> hi Cantide
[17:47] <Cantide> hello ^-^
[17:54] <Kilos> hi superfly
[18:09] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:10] <Kilos> hows the head?
[18:28] <nuvolari> elvis entered the building
[18:28]  * nuvolari takes a bow
[18:28] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos
[18:29]  * nuvolari tips hat to superfly, charl, Cantide, tumbleweed
[18:29] <Cantide> ^^
[18:29] <Cantide> heya
[18:29] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[18:29] <Kilos> goeie nuus ne
[18:30] <nuvolari> virseker!
[18:31] <nuvolari> verseker?
[18:31]  * nuvolari sleep translate.google.com nader
[18:31] <Cantide> ek ook kan nie afrikaans praat nie ._.
[18:31] <nuvolari> *vir seker
[18:32] <nuvolari> Cantide: well, you understood most of what I said
[18:32] <nuvolari> :P
[18:32] <Tonberry> verseker = insurance iirc
[18:32] <nuvolari> looks like it
[18:32] <nuvolari> so that's good enough
[18:32] <Cantide> ^^
[18:32] <nuvolari> ah, thanks Tonberry
[18:33] <Kilos> sorry guys well try use english as much as possible
[18:33] <Cantide> \o/
[18:33] <Cantide> or German or Korean
[18:33] <Kilos> ian is very sick
[18:34] <Kilos> docs suspect some avian infection in his lungs
[18:34] <nuvolari> see, he shouldn't be flying
[18:34] <Kilos> hehe
[18:35] <Kilos> from birds man
[18:35] <nuvolari> sorry, it's serious
[18:35] <nuvolari> he should stay grounded
[18:35] <Kilos> only has 25% lung capacity
[18:35] <nuvolari> joh
[18:35] <nuvolari> :-/
[18:35] <nuvolari> from all the skelm rook?
[18:35] <Kilos> will have to go to albert luthuli hospital in durbs
[18:36] <Kilos> hy rook nie. het nooit
[18:36] <nuvolari> hoekom hier oom?
[18:36] <Kilos> but he was born near 3 months early
[18:36] <nuvolari> I'm sure there must be a specialist closer than durban
[18:36] <Kilos> hulle se dis die beste hospitaal, swiss doctors
[18:38] <Kilos> Cantide, you speak korean
[18:39] <Cantide> 아니야
[18:39] <Cantide> i only know the alphabet and a few expressions
[18:39] <Kilos> ah
[18:39] <nuvolari> he spilled some water on his keyboard...
[18:39] <Cantide> can't hold conversation (yet)
[18:39] <nuvolari> :P
[18:39] <Cantide> :p
[18:39] <Kilos> hehe
[18:40] <Cantide> I learn a word or two a week, so maybe i will know enough soon
[18:40] <Cantide> but the grammar is really crazy .-.
[18:40] <Kilos> haha
[18:40] <Kilos> is there a reason for learning korean
[18:41] <Kilos> you wanna go work there
[18:42] <Cantide> yup
[18:42] <Cantide> going in 6 months, i hope
[18:43] <Cantide> final semester of UNISA now :) :) :) :)
[18:44] <Kilos> give it 110%
[18:46] <Cantide> at the moment i'm giving it about 10% :D
[18:46] <Cantide> i'll work on the other 100 later >_>
[18:46] <Kilos> eish
[18:47] <Kilos> last semester
[18:47] <Cantide> <_<
[18:47] <Kilos> rest of your life youre playing with here
[18:47] <Cantide> well, if things don't go as planned then there will be another last semester
[18:47] <Cantide> which won't be so cool
[18:47] <Cantide> but it will still be possible
[18:48] <Cantide> anyway, i'll quit my job soon so i can study hard before exams
[18:48] <Kilos> then you get to come here and get some sjambok
[18:48] <inetpro> stadig Kilos
[18:48] <Kilos> lol
[18:48] <inetpro> ons wil nie mense seermaak hier nie
[18:49] <Cantide> hahaha
[18:49] <Kilos> net die boude man
[18:49] <inetpro> :-)
[18:49] <Cantide> dankie, oom ._.
[18:49]  * inetpro maak maar net seker hy hou by die reels van ubuntu
[18:49] <Kilos> lol
[18:49] <Kilos> ja you can whip someone with a smile on your face and not swear
[18:50] <Cantide> and being whipped, I should accept it gracefully
[18:50] <Cantide> this is ubuntu, right?
[18:50] <Kilos> yip
[18:50] <inetpro> so, is there anything interesting that happened today in the ubuntu world?
[18:50] <Cantide> we will allow others to watch - open source whipping
[18:50] <Kilos> dunno
[18:50] <Kilos> hehe
[18:51]  * inetpro has not been so actively online today
[18:51] <Kilos> what did mark say inetpro
[18:51] <inetpro> Kilos: I posted that above... short stuff that I heard
[18:51] <Kilos> only saw one post
[18:52] <Kilos> as long as we are growing and taking over the future
[18:53] <inetpro> 19/07 18:28:58 <inetpro> Dell is coming with pre-installed systems in the American market
[18:53] <inetpro> 19/07 18:32:24 <inetpro> nice! First class web applications will be directly in the desktop
[18:53] <inetpro> 19/07 18:32:36 <inetpro> Ubuntu 12.10 will be awesome!
[18:53] <inetpro> First class web applications are like gmail
[18:53] <inetpro> web applications that will look like native applications
[18:53] <inetpro> integrated in the Unity interface
[18:54] <inetpro> with event functions in the HUD and all
[18:54] <Kilos> hmm
[18:55] <Cantide> any changes to unity?
[18:55] <Cantide> i'm still not quite liking it, even after using it for months :<
[18:55] <inetpro> Cantide: I ony watched a short snippet at the end
[18:55] <inetpro> only*
[18:55] <Cantide> oh, okay ^^
[18:55] <Cantide> i will have to wait for 12.10 and then see :)
[18:56] <inetpro> Cantide: you don't have to wait actually
[18:56] <Cantide> i avoid alpha >_>
[18:56] <inetpro> you can even try it now already
[18:56] <inetpro> and get involved in the process
[18:56]  * inetpro too
[18:57] <Cantide> once i quit my job i will have a lot more time on my hands
[18:57] <Cantide> perhaps then
[18:57] <inetpro> but according to the tumbling weed it's very stable these days
[18:57] <Cantide> i find it counter-productive
[18:58] <Cantide> the layout and functionality of the launcher vs the bar at the bottom from gnome 2.x
[18:58] <inetpro> only towards the end it really becomes a rough ride with everybody trying to get applications included in the release
[18:58] <Kilos> studies first
[18:58] <Cantide> i tend to rely on alt-tab a lot more now than i ever did -.-
[18:58] <Cantide> oh right, the OS is stable, got it '-'
[18:59] <inetpro> anyway... since nobody seemingly learned any new interesting things today that he/she want to share I shall have to go reading
[19:03] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:06] <superfly> inetpro: Install Raspian on your Raspberry Pi
[19:06] <inetpro> superfly: eh
[19:07]  * inetpro has not even ordered his Raspberry Pi
[19:07] <inetpro> superfly: what does it cost?
[19:07] <inetpro> and where do I order?
[19:07] <Cantide> 25 USD? 35 USD?
[19:07] <Cantide> can't remember..
[19:08] <superfly> inetpro: RS components, mine cost about R350-370, including shipping from the UK
[19:08] <Cantide> going back, integrated gmail would be really epic :)
[19:08] <inetpro> eish!
[19:08] <inetpro> a lot of moola
[19:08] <Cantide> superfly, cool :)
[19:08] <inetpro> then again relative cheap
[19:09] <superfly> http://za.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
[19:11] <inetpro> superfly: hmm... and what do you order on top of the small goodie
[19:11] <inetpro> ?
[19:12] <inetpro> our Raspberry Pi may also need...
[19:12] <superfly> inetpro: a monitor capable of DVI or HDMI
[19:12] <inetpro> A white moulded plastic case to house the Type B Raspberry Pi
[19:12] <superfly> inetpro: an HDMI to DVI cable
[19:12] <superfly> inetpro: an extra keyboard and mouse
[19:12] <inetpro> superfly: ahh that
[19:13] <cocooncrash> inetpro: Or http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1310
[19:13] <cocooncrash> inetpro: Micro USB cable for power, SD card
[19:13] <inetpro> cocooncrash: ahh... Kilos he's awake?
[19:13] <inetpro> :-)
[19:13] <inetpro> wb cocooncrash
[19:13] <cocooncrash> :)
[19:13] <Kilos> lol yo cocooncrash
[19:14] <inetpro> cocooncrash: ahh, good idea
[19:14] <inetpro> make your own cardboard case?
[19:14] <Kilos> its past midnight there now he will turn into a pumkin soon
[19:14] <cocooncrash> Kilos: Uh, no, it's just past midday
[19:15] <Kilos> oh my
[19:15] <superfly> inetpro: ah yes, an SD card with Raspian on it
[19:15] <Kilos> oh yes sorry
[19:15] <inetpro> interesting
[19:15] <cocooncrash> inetpro: Haven't got a RasbPi yet, so no
[19:16]  * inetpro shall wait for the end of the month before placing an order
[19:16] <inetpro> this certainly looks very interesting
[19:18] <Cantide> the Punnet is really cool :) perhaps tracing that onto plywood and making a wooden box would be nice; maybe even affix some spare PCB as trimming...
[19:19] <inetpro> Maaz: convert 7.19 gbp to rands
[19:19] <Maaz> inetpro: I'm not feeling too well
[19:19] <Cantide> now i want a Pi -.-
[19:19] <inetpro> eish!
[19:20] <inetpro> hmm R 93 a Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 4-Port Hub
[19:20]  * Kerbero has a pi in the ski
[19:20] <Cantide> :D
[19:20] <Kerbero> *sky
[19:21] <Cantide> going to take Kilos' advice and study a bit, then sleep ._.
[19:21] <Cantide> nn
[19:22] <Kilos> haha someone listen s to me
[19:22] <Kilos> yay
[19:23] <Trixar_za> I wish I did. Would have saved me putting my foot in my mouth and having to apologize now
[19:23] <Kilos> hey Trixar_za
[19:23] <Kilos> what did you say wrong?
[19:26] <Trixar_za> Er, told the guy I didn't care if we lost him as a developer (in not such a nice way - few f-bombs included), that I will make it my mission to replace his contributions with mine and revert any changes he makes that will negatively influence the project
[19:26] <Trixar_za> Oh and that he just pissed me off enough to motivate me to push the proposed idea forward as a definite
[19:27] <Trixar_za> ... and then he posted it on the mailing list, then I posted all this messages on the mailing list
[19:27] <Trixar_za> his*
[19:27] <Kilos> oh my
[19:28] <Trixar_za> We then made up like 5 minutes after the last email. So I had to send an apologetic email to the list too
[19:29] <Kilos> somewhere in my blogs there is a message to young peeps
[19:29] <Kilos> will try find it for you some time
[19:31] <Trixar_za> Like I said, I'm not a good leader
[19:31] <Trixar_za> :P
[19:32] <Kilos> you will get there
[19:33] <Kilos> the important thing to remember is one gets the most done when everyone feels they are a part of the team, not just an employee
[19:33] <inetpro> superfly: you think it makes a difference whether I order in GBP, USD or EURO?
[19:33] <Kilos> like all of us here
[19:37] <superfly> inetpro: it can, check the exchange rates
[19:38] <inetpro> will check
[19:38] <inetpro> superfly: do I really need to include a Micro USB cable for power, surely if I have a Samsung micro USB charger that should work?
[19:38] <cocooncrash> Maaz: exchange 7.19 GBP to ZAR
[19:38] <Maaz> cocooncrash: That didn't seem to agree with me
[19:38] <cocooncrash> Maaz: gcalc 7.19 GBP in ZAR
[19:38] <Maaz> cocooncrash: No result
[19:38] <superfly> inetpro: I have mine plugged into my PC :-)
[19:39] <inetpro> ok, so I'll leave that then
[19:39] <inetpro> superfly: and the High Speed SD Flash memory card, with Raspberry Pi operating system pre-installed?
[19:39] <inetpro> do you download your own?
[19:39] <superfly> inetpro: I rolled my own
[19:40] <inetpro> ok
[19:40] <inetpro> those auxillary cables also look cheap
[19:46] <inetpro> very interesting
[19:47] <inetpro> my order would work out as follows
[19:47] <inetpro> 81.77 USD = R670, 64.01 EUR = R820, 50.47 GBP = R650
[19:49] <inetpro> that is for Raspberry Pi Type B Single Board Computer, Ethernet network cable for Raspberry Pi, 4GB Class 6 SDHC Flash memory card for Raspberry Pi, Raspberry Pi Type B Case - Clear, HDMI cable for Raspberry Pi and 3.5mm Stereo to twin RCA plug cable for Raspberry Pi
[19:49] <inetpro> but yikes!
[19:49] <inetpro> Despatch expected within 19 week(s)
[19:49] <inetpro> that is way to long to wait
[19:50] <inetpro> anyway, I shall wait for now and hopefully in a week or two I'll be able to compare the price with the above
[19:51] <Trixar_za> bbl
[19:52] <Kilos> night all sleep tight. see ya morrow
[19:52] <inetpro> good night Kilos
[19:59] <charl> nn all
[20:21] <inetpro> superfly: how's the performance of the Raspberry Pi?
[20:22] <superfly> inetpro: with the non-optimised Debian: slow, but not unusable
[20:22] <superfly> inetpro: I'm keen to see what Raspian is like
[20:22] <superfly> apparently it's faster and smoother
[20:22] <inetpro> you still downloading?
[20:23] <superfly> haven't downloaded it yet
[20:23] <inetpro> ok
[20:23] <inetpro> good thing if you can experience the Debian side first
[20:25] <inetpro> superfly: it will be very interesting to see how usable that little device can be for presentations
[20:26] <inetpro> no more bulky laptops needed to carry around
[20:26] <superfly> Raspian is Debian, it's just optimised
[20:27] <inetpro> ahh
[20:43] <cocooncrash> inetpro: That's a neat idea!
[20:43] <cocooncrash> I doubt that it could run LibreOffice, but a PDF reader should run fine.
[20:44] <inetpro> cocooncrash: would definitely look very cool!
[20:44] <cocooncrash> It amazes me that there's no standard to wirelessy connect to projectors to do presentations
[20:44] <inetpro> that plus a laser pointer and a projector
[20:45] <cocooncrash> A RasbPi connected to a project which accepts wireless connections from your Android would be neat
[20:45] <inetpro> in fact projectors should come with a built in raspberry pi
[20:46] <inetpro> now there's an idea
[20:46] <inetpro> I could make money
[20:46] <inetpro> :-)
[22:38] <tumbleweed> superfly: raspion shouldn't be more than 20% faster


[12:55] <mamarley> ricotz: We just got a message on the graphics-drivers-testers PPA about the libnvidia-egl-wayland.so being in the wrong place.  It looks like what the guy says is correct, but I just wanted to get your opinion before I make any changes.
[15:06] <ricotz> mamarley, the mail is about the location of 10_nvidia_wayland.json ?
[15:07] <mamarley> ricotz: Yes.
[15:07] <mamarley> (I am not able to test this directly because I don't have Wayland set up on any of my PCs.)
[15:07] <ricotz> but this seems correct while glvnd support has not landed yet
[15:08] <mamarley> I thought so too, so I should go ahead and move the file?
[15:08] <ricotz> I guess I would prefer a symlink
[15:08] <mamarley> OK, will do.
[15:09] <ricotz> tseliot, hi, https://lists.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers-testers/msg00098.html
[15:12] <tseliot> ricotz: I didn't put the file in the right place because the NVIDIA installer doesn't do that. I've just read this, though:
[15:12] <tseliot> The NVIDIA EGL driver uses a JSON-based loader to load all EGL External platforms available on the system. If this library is not installed as part of a NVIDIA driver installation, a JSON configuration file must be manually added in order to make the library work with the NVIDIA driver. The default EGL External platform JSON configuration directory is: /usr/share/egl/egl_external_platform.d/
[15:12] <mamarley> tseliot: The poster did say that the .run file exhibited the same issue.
[15:12] <tseliot> I wonder why they don't install something the worked on
[15:12] <tseliot> *they
[15:13] <mamarley> Beats me.
[15:13] <ricotz> mamarley, I assumed non-PPA means ubuntu archive
[15:14] <mamarley> There is no nvidia-390 in the main archive yet.
[15:14] <mamarley> But yes, the wording was a bit confusing.
[15:14] <ricotz> right, would be the same with 384
[15:15] <mamarley> True.  So what do you guys think we should do?
[15:15] <tseliot> they even have this in the nvidia installer code:
[15:15] <tseliot> #define DEFAULT_EGL_EXTERNAL_PLATFORM_JSON_PATH "/usr/share/egl/egl_external_platform.d"
[15:17] <tseliot> actually, I got that right in the new nvidia packaging. Too bad it's not ready yet
[15:17] <mamarley> So should I move the file or symlink it?
[15:18] <tseliot> mamarley: you can move it. This is how I install it in the new packaging
[15:18] <tseliot> NVIDIA-Linux/10_nvidia_wayland.json                                  usr/share/egl/egl_external_platform.d
[15:19] <mamarley> OK, great.  I will do that this afternoon for all the NVIDIA drivers we package that have the file.


[11:38] <glade88> hello.. what all teams are allowed to have a 16x16 team icon instead of a 14x14 one?
[11:40]  * wgrant wasn't aware that they could.
[11:42] <glade88> wgrant: the ubuntuforums.org staff, ubuntumembers, ubuntu-marketting, bash etc have 16x16 icons
[11:42] <glade88> translation teams have their country's flag which is also not a 14x14 image
[11:44] <wgrant> It's possible that that happened before the imposition of the restriction,
[11:45] <LarstiQ> which begs the question, what's the rationale behind the restriction?
[11:45] <glade88> perhaps..
[11:46] <glade88> wgrant: earlier I had in mind that brainstorm moderators team should be allowed a 16x16 icon when UF staff like teams have..
[11:46] <wgrant> LarstiQ: It doesn't beg the question.
[11:47] <LarstiQ> wgrant: as in, English?
[11:47]  * LarstiQ uses it as begets
[11:47] <wgrant> http://begthequestion.info/
[11:49] <LarstiQ> hmkay
[11:50] <LarstiQ> so, English dicussions aside, why?
[11:50] <glade88> IMO.. 14x14 is a bit too small..while 16x16 was just okay.
[11:50] <wgrant> So it fits into places it's meant to, I suspect.
[11:51] <wgrant> It's much nicer having a uniform subscriber list.
[11:51] <glade88> wgrant: its shown up only on user pages
[11:51] <glade88> and with different sized icons, its not uniform now
[11:51] <wgrant> I believe it's also shown in bug subscription lists.
[11:52] <wgrant> See https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/newsbeuter/+bug/275019
[11:58] <LarstiQ> wgrant: do you actually use beg the question for its logical meaning?
[12:03] <wgrant> LarstiQ: I do not.
[12:05] <LarstiQ> wgrant: ok. Neither have I ever seen anyone use it that way.
[12:05] <wgrant> Doesn't mean using it the other way is right.
[12:06] <LarstiQ> mja
[12:07] <LarstiQ> wgrant: I just use drogredenering or circular reasoning.
[13:52] <Hobbsee> oh, nyah.  darn launchpad.
[13:52] <Hobbsee> pleaes don't delete my form data.
[13:54] <persia> You mean when you submit something with a typo?
[13:55] <Hobbsee> no - putting in a summary, then hitting advanced, when filing a bug.
[13:56] <Hobbsee> wipes the summary
[13:58] <persia> Oh, I haven't looked at non-advanced bug filing since feisty, except once when the name changed from "complicated" to "advanced".
[14:02] <nhandler> I just noticed the "Does this bug affect you?" button on launchpad edge. Is there any documentation about what happens when someone says that they are affected by a bug? Does it just confirm the bug? Does it increment a counter of how many people are affected by the bug?  When you report a bug, are you automatically marked as being affected by it?
[14:03] <qense> I think you just get subscribed
[14:03] <nhandler> qense: I really hope that it does more than that. Subscribers are not the same as people affected by a bug.
[14:03] <qense> yeah
[14:04] <wgrant> It adds an entry to BugAffectsUser, so it could easily display a count.
[14:04] <wgrant> It's not just subscription.
[14:04] <wgrant> It might not be subscription at all.
[14:04] <nhandler> Is there any documentation about this new feature?
[14:05] <wgrant> NAFAIK.
[14:05] <wgrant> But IANALPD
[14:05] <wgrant> But going by usual Launchpad standards, particularly as this is such a new feature...
[14:06] <qense> well, than I was wrong
[14:06] <qense> Is the counter already displayed?
[14:06]  * wgrant pokes around.
[14:08] <wgrant> qense: Doesn't look like it.
[14:08] <wgrant> If it is displayed, it's a bug, because I can't see it.
[14:09] <nhandler> So let me get this straight. Saying the bug affects you increments some counter, but the counter is not available to anyone? This sounds like a pointless feature to me
[14:09] <wgrant> nhandler: I suspect that the feature isn't complete yet.
[14:09]  * wgrant digs up the bugs.
[14:11] <wgrant> intellectronica would know, but isn't around...
[14:11] <wgrant> It would be nice if these plans were public...
[14:11] <wgrant> ISTR several bugs on this topic, and only seeing one marked as fixed. So I presume it's not yet complete.
[14:12]  * Hobbsee wonders why it was rolled out, if it was incomplete.
[14:13] <wgrant> Hobbsee: Why not?
[14:13] <wgrant> More for the regulars to complain about. All the better.
[14:13] <Hobbsee> wgrant: seems unprofessional?
[14:13] <wgrant> Watching if things break, rather than rolling it out all at once...
[14:13] <wgrant> Hobbsee: It's a pre-release. 'tis fine.
[14:13] <Hobbsee> wgrant: oh, i thought this rolled out to production.
[14:14] <wgrant> No, 1.2.10 isn't due for a while yet.
[14:20] <persia> I thought all committed gode automatically went to edge if it didn't break anything.
[14:21] <qense> can you already browse the variable using the API?
[14:23] <wgrant> persia: Such things would often be kept in another branch until completion.
[15:33] <Slash_Network> hello all
[15:33] <Slash_Network> can sombody help me ?
[15:34] <wgrant> !ask
[15:35] <Slash_Network> It's about comfirming my key to sign the code of conduct. I don't know what I put in the "signed text"
[16:29] <elcuco> hi all, i am tryign to register a new project in launchpad, however my code is only available from svn (no bazar). what are my options?
[16:32] <Dominic> elcuco: you don't have to have any code on lp if you don't want to.  You can also import the code from an external svn server and it'll update a branch in lp's bzr repo if you like.
[16:32] <Dominic> elcuco: you can go through the registration process, then once you're registered, click on the 'Code' tab and it'll give you the options
[16:33] <elcuco> Dominic: yes, i am there, and i see now the svn configuration. i am still trying to understand if i will have write commit to my svn repo
[16:33]  * elcuco is trying to open a translation project for kde
[16:34] <Dominic> I think it's purely a read-only import of svn into an lp hosted bzr repo, so you'd just use your existing commit access back to the main svn repo and it'd show up later in lp's bzr
[16:35] <Dominic> but I guess you could then branch the bzr version if you liked on lp
[16:35] <elcuco> the deal is that i don't want users to deal with anything *but* the gui
[16:37] <Dominic> I'm not sure you even need to have the code visible in lp to use translations, but I haven't used it
[16:38] <elcuco> lp has it's own translations, but they are tied up to ubuntu. i don't want that, i want the branches to be tied up with kde's upstream 'code'
[16:38] <elcuco> lp seems interesting for translating, and this is what i am trying to use
[16:39] <Dominic> indeed, but I don't think you even need to configure the code bit to make use of the translation section.  Might be worth playing on staging.launchpad.net and you can try it out without harming anything
[16:39] <Dominic> but even still, if you set up a code import from svn, nobody's going to be able to commit back anyway unless they had valid credentials
[16:40] <elcuco> so this means i am still translating in void, without option to commit back "upstream". correct?
[16:40] <Dominic> I don't know, I haven't used the translations section from a dev perspective to know how it works, sorry.
[16:42] <oojah> elcuco: The launchpad translations aren't necessarily tied to ubuntu.
[16:42] <oojah> Some of my personal projects use lp for translations but aren't even on any distros.
[16:43] <oojah> elcuco: The important bit is that the people developing the code decide to use launchpad for the translations.
[16:43] <elcuco> oojah: is it possible to commit from LP to upstream? (only translations)
[16:43] <oojah> If they don't incorporate the translations done on launchpad into the repo, then it's a bit of a waste of time.
[16:44] <oojah> elcuco: Not as far as I know, but I'm only a lp user.
[16:44] <oojah> Once translations are ready, they can then be downloaded as a tar ball.
[16:45] <oojah> Well, at any point.
[16:45] <oojah> They don't have to be "complete" :)
[16:46] <elcuco> but my translations are a moving target, i need a constant "merge"
[17:52] <epsy> hi, i've noticed a small issue with team maps: most of the time bubbles just doesnt fit the map frame..and it looks..weird
[17:56] <epsy> you can't have both the whole bubble and the pin tofether
[19:07] <Accidus> Anyone here has some experience with launchpadlib?
[19:08] <beuno> Accidus, a little bit. What seems to be the problem?
[19:09] <Accidus> Hmm... Well, it's probably due to my misunderstanding of the concept, but I'm having problems with iterators.
[19:09] <beuno> Accidus, want to pastebin the code/output somewhere?
[19:10] <Accidus> For the argument's sake, take proj = launchpad.projects['launchpadlib']
[19:10] <beuno> I also happen to know Verterok is around, and he's played with it more than I have
[19:10] <Accidus> It's rather short. Do you still prefer a pastebin?
[19:10] <Accidus> (most of the code is authenticating, which is standard code)
[19:11] <beuno> sure, pastebins are IRC-friendly
[19:11] <Accidus> Okay. Just a sec.
[19:11] <Verterok> Accidus: shoot, I'll try to answer :)
[19:12] <Accidus> Just a sec then. I'll make a pastebin :).
[19:16] <Accidus> Okay
[19:16] <Accidus> http://pastebin.com/m4e84477b
[19:17] <Accidus> It seems that the iterator entry misses some key attributes.
[19:17] <Accidus> For example, the entry_links one
[19:17] <Accidus> Or the self_link one
[19:18] <Accidus> But, well, I could be dead wrong, because this is just an iterator entry, not a normal entry (like 'project' or 'person')
[19:18] <Verterok> Accidus: let me check
[19:25] <Verterok> Accidus: I think that: proj.releases should be enough :)
[19:25] <Verterok> that 'll return the collection of releases
[19:26] <Accidus> Hmm... Interesting.
[19:26] <Accidus> proj.releases doesn't appear in the doc
[19:26] <Accidus> While releases_collection_link does
[19:27] <beuno> Accidus, sounds like a bug!  ;)
[19:27] <beuno> (in the docs)
[19:27] <Verterok> Accidus: run yout py, with: 'python -i' and play with the dir() funtion in the interactive interpreter
[19:28] <Accidus> Ah, probably
[19:28] <Accidus> Verterok: I'm using the dir() excessively :0)
[19:28] <Accidus> That doc file is hard to use :)
[19:28] <Verterok> ;)
[19:28]  * beuno was hinting at Accidus to file a bug so the docs can be updated
[19:28] <Verterok> Accidus: I almost never look the docs, just the code :)
[19:28] <Accidus> Don't worry. I'm filing a bug.
[19:29] <Accidus> Although I'm not sure how to report it.
[19:29] <Accidus> "In the docs appears the "releases_collection_link" attribute, but if you try to use it you get b0rked objects, while the "releases" attribute works fine?
[19:30] <beuno> yeap, let the dev figure the rest out  :)
[19:31] <Accidus> Sounds good. I'll probably add more flesh to the report though. I'd hate to receive such a report myself.
[19:32] <beuno> well, the more flesh it has, the more chances it'll get fixed. So feel encouraged to add as much as you can
[20:13] <Accidus> Hooray! It works!
[20:13] <Accidus> Now to wrap it up into a single script :)
[20:13] <Verterok> Accidus: great!
[20:14] <Accidus> Verterok: How do you figure out an operation's arguments if not from the api doc?
[20:14] <Verterok> mmm...a good question...don't know the answer
[20:14] <Accidus> Okay. Thanks :)
[20:15] <Verterok> Accidus:  I assume looking the code that write the http request ;)
[20:16] <Accidus> Hehe. Welllllllll... Not really. I think that looking at the API doc first
[20:16] <Accidus> is a better action.
[20:17] <Accidus> If it's not there/not updated, then doing some guesswork
[20:17] <Accidus> And if push comes to shove, asking in the answers page for launchpadlib.
[20:17] <Accidus> Only if you're in a real hurry I'd guess looking at the request a recommended action :))
[20:19] <Verterok> Accidus: sure, y'r right
[20:22] <Verterok> Accidus: it's just that I  like to know the internals :)
[20:23]  * Verterok must leave now, seeya later
[20:25]  * Accidus knows the feeling.
[20:25] <Accidus> See you later! And thanks for all the help


[08:26] <knome> mr_pouit, micahg: can you get back to me when you have some time to sit down (together or separately), we still need to look through the "development" pages on wiki/website; i'm supposing this is a fifteen-minute taks
[08:31] <knome> after the call for people interested in documentation, 13 people have showed up
[08:44] <hobgoblin> I was one :)
[08:45] <hobgoblin> though you'd see me as Elfy
[20:14] <knome> 20 proposed members for ~xubuntu-doc
[20:14] <knome> be back tomorrow, see you all
[22:16] <GridCube> the link that comes up in !faq is wrong


[05:22] <extor> I want to compress about 800GB worth of text(source code, mostly text). So I considered ZFS and Btrfs and while reading up on zfs it's really easy to set up as a "pool" but unlike an ext4 filesystem you cannot detach the disk from one dedi and move it to another along with the data. But I think with Btrfs you probably could. Not sure if there's any other stable linux filesystems that can do compression


[05:29] <cjdg> hi there
[05:29] <cjdg> :)
[06:49] <sirriffsalothp> Anyone know how to get presets in setBfree to work? When I restart the program the saves I made are just replaced by the default presets...
[12:38] <jphilips> hi all. i'm part of the marketing team for xubuntu and wanted to get in contact with someone on the similar team for ubuntu studio
[15:28] <jphilips> Eickmeyer[m]: hi
[15:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> jphilips: Hi. Such discussion shouldn't be in this support channel.
[15:29] <jphilips> did you see my message above
[15:29] <jphilips> oh sorry, what is the correct channel
[15:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> jphilips: I answered you in #xubuntu-devel.
[15:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> jphilips: #ubuntustudio-devel is also a thing.
[15:30] <jphilips> okay will talk to you there
[18:23] <anden> i've noticed that when disabling pulseaudio and using alsa directly, i can achieve some lower latency in audio playback, at the cost of having no mixing. it works great for programs like LMMS that can be configured to use ALSA, but i would love to do this for games (at the cost of not having any background audio from other applications of course). i found pasuspender which seems to be the right program
[18:23] <anden>  for this, but for most games that just causes the audio to mute completely, how i can force the game to use alsa directly?
[18:23] <anden> i know this isn't primarily the place to go for gaming-related questions, but some people from #ubuntu recommended me to ask here. sorry if the question is too off-topic
[18:44] <anden> well, i think i got it to work by stopping pulseaudio.socket and pulseaudio.service with systemctl, and also disabling autospawn in pulseaudios client.conf, pulseaudio stays disabled while i am playing the game and no other games seem to be able to access the sound card. i hope this is the most ideal way of gaming with low latency audio..
[18:55] <Eickmeyer[m]> anden: Gaming and lowlatency audio don't mix. Ubuntu Studio is not made for gaming.
[18:55] <Eickmeyer[m]> Your use case is not something we support.
[18:56] <anden> i am not actually using ubuntu studio, like i said, i was recommended to ask here by the people in #ubuntu
[18:56] <anden> they just said you have good knowledge with setting this up
[18:56] <Eickmeyer[m]> !ubuntustudio-controls | anden: All you need is this
[18:57] <anden> can i achieve lower latency through jack than just using alsa directly?
[18:57] <Eickmeyer[m]> That depends.
[18:57] <Eickmeyer[m]> Most applications are configured to only use PulseAudio.
[18:58] <anden> and if i get them to playback audio even when pulseaudio is running, it could still be delayed somehow?
[18:58] <anden> i mean, because of pulseaudio, even though it is not running
[18:58] <anden> of course there are any number of factors that can cause delay
[18:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> There is always going to be SOME inherent delay if Pulsaudio is running. BUT, Ubuntu Studio Controls is the easiest way to start/stop Pulseaudio.
[18:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> Of course, it uses Jack if it turns-off PulseAudio, but that's minimal overhead.
[19:00] <anden> i see. well, i see in pavucontrols that it is unable to contact pulseaudio, while my game is running (with my above solution), so that should be an indicator that i got it to fully stop, and the fact that i can still hear the game should mean that it's running with lowest possible latency, i thought
[19:00] <anden> i need to read up about jack though, i don't know much about it yet
[19:01] <Eickmeyer[m]> Think of Jack as a patchbay/router. A good graphical patchbay is Patchage, or if you want audio plugins, there's Carla.
[19:01] <anden> i see
[19:03] <Eickmeyer[m]> I highly recommend asking more in #lau (Linux Audio Users). Your use case is beyond anything we really do here.
[19:03] <anden> great, thanks for the advice!
[19:03] <anden> and thanks for your time


[20:56] <mahendra_> first test message
[20:56] <lilVaratep> How do I use tcpdump?
[20:56] <sun_devil> nope could not find it
[20:57] <OerHeks> sun_devil, like codepal said: sudo apt-get install keepassx
[20:57] <Zal> lilVaratep, by reading the manual page, just like any command :-)
[20:58] <sun_devil> got it thanks
[20:59] <lilVaratep> Anyone know any fun/useful things to run in terminal? I wanna have a cool set-up =D
[20:59] <john_doe_jr> when you type in a terminal...I'd like to see my options for a particular command without having to do a man 'command' ...does anyone know if that's possible?
[20:59] <lilVaratep> I currently have network traffic, finch, and irc in terminal. anyone have any more fun things to run in here?
[21:00] <itaylor57> john_doe_jr, usually  --help with after the command
[21:00] <Zal> lilVaratep, mc and mutt are fun.
[21:00] <Captain_Proton> lilstevie, xxxterm it a webbroswer
[21:01] <lilVaratep> What is MC? And Mutt is the e-mail correct?
[21:01] <Captain_Proton> no a webkit browser built in the trem
[21:01] <Zal> lilVaratep, midnight commander is a file browser. Yes, mutt is an email client.
[21:01] <KingPhisher> I just lost the game.
[21:02] <john_doe_jr> itaylor57: thank you ...exactly what I was looking for
[21:02] <itaylor57> john_doe_jr, your welcome
[21:04] <dmitry_> Hello!
[21:05] <myersg> whats new in the beta 1?
[21:06] <ikonia> myersg: it's worth reading about it if your serious, rather than just asking randomly
[21:06] <lilVaratep> Ouch, Mutt uses VIM, which I don't know how to use
[21:06] <ikonia> lilVaratep: it can use any editor you want
[21:07] <lilVaratep> How do I change it?
[21:07] <joebodo> ikonia, i've read the beta notes - do you know if gnome-shell will be updated ?
[21:07] <ikonia> lilVaratep: I believe it responds to the EDITOR varible
[21:07] <ikonia> joebodo: yes it will
[21:07] <joebodo> ikonia, didnt see anything about it ...
[21:07] <ikonia> most of the gnome components are getting up dated
[21:08] <ikonia> joebodo: the release notes only cover (I think) the main repo
[21:08] <ikonia> joebodo: gnome-shell is not in the main repo
[21:08] <ikonia> !info gnome-shell
[21:08] <joebodo> ikonia, ahh ok
[21:08] <ikonia> joebodo: there you go it's in universe
[21:08] <joebodo> ikonia, thx mate
[21:09] <joebodo> now to get kicked ....
[21:09] <joebodo> gnome-shell > unity !
[21:09] <BaseBallBoy> okay so I installed the nvidia X server settings and I got everything configured like I wanted it, I reboot my computer and my monitors are setup like 2 complete different computers. 2 applications, 2 of everything. I'm running 10.04.03
[21:09] <joebodo> lol
[21:09] <Gentoo64> gnome-shell > nothing
[21:10] <module000> Gentoo64: s/nothing/unity    FTFY
[21:10] <joebodo> Gentoo64, well that applies to everything
[21:10] <Kolibabchuk> Hello, World!
[21:10] <Schles> hey guys. I want to change the content inside the notification.
[21:11] <ablyss> BaseBallBoy, in ubuntu 11.10 you can specify the second monitor to mirror or be independent
[21:11] <Schles> i want the 2 lines (title and body) in one line
[21:12] <shivam7074> please help i m trying to install but this happens http://pastebin.com/V7amNzWm
[21:13] <Spyros> BaseBallBoy, i have three monitors
[21:13] <BaseBallBoy> ablyss: That doesn't really help me
[21:13] <BaseBallBoy> Spyros: cool?
[21:13] <Spyros> yes
[21:13] <Spyros> !!
[21:13] <BaseBallBoy> I have 2 :D
[21:13] <dougl> !netflix
[21:13] <Spyros> thumbs upD
[21:13] <Spyros> :D
[21:13] <ablyss> shivam7074, that usually happens if you have another package manager running
[21:14] <martian> shivam7074: like synaptic
[21:14] <shivam7074> wat u all saying cant get???
[21:14] <skutr34> Hey, I suddenly can't play music with Banshee.. I select my track and click play, but nothing happens... I know I have the codecs and plugins installed because I've played the songs before...
[21:14] <ablyss> BaseBallBoy, have you tried the nvidia gui utility?
[21:15] <martian> shivam7074: I don't understand your question. "wat u all saying cant get???"
[21:15] <BaseBallBoy> ablyss: that's what I thought I was using
[21:16] <martian> shivam7074: only one software installer can run at a time. If you have Synaptic Package Manager open, you can't use 'apt-get insatll'
[21:16] <shivam7074> wat is package manager n synaptic, pls tell, so that i can fix my prob???
[21:17] <martian> shivam7074: could you please use actual words. If you don't see a window open called synaptic package manager, then you probably don't have it running. Are you currently running an update?
[21:17] <Kolibabchuk> Hello!
[21:17] <ablyss> shivam7074,  "synaptic" manages packages.  It lets you install/uninstall ubuntu software
[21:18] <shivam7074> no but intalling vlc...
[21:18] <Kolibabchuk> omnomnom =3
[21:18] <martian> shivam7074: you can only install one thing at a time
[21:18] <Kolibabchuk> :3
[21:19] <shivam7074> pls tell isnt there any way to run multi downlaods???
[21:19] <ablyss> shivam7074, use synaptic and not apt-get from terminal
[21:20] <shivam7074> pls ellaborate i m a new user, how to do it???
[21:20] <ablyss> technically you could use apt-get from terminal as long as you specify all the software on one line
[21:21] <guntbert> shivam7074: of course you can:      sudo apt-get install <package1> <package2> .....
[21:22] <ablyss> kind of a pain the whazoo when you have lots of software
[21:22] <GintasDX> Heya, I got a problem with xdg-open it can't handle URLs with & symbol.
[21:22] <macmartine> I'm getting this stuff in my log, but no others users have access to this machine. would it be a bot trying to hack in? https://gist.github.com/1961429
[21:23] <guntbert> macmartine: not necessarily a bot :)
[21:24] <Ampelbein> macmartine: Yeah, that's a typical scriptkiddie attack. I'd suggest using something like fail2ban if the tryouts get excessive.
[21:24] <macmartine> guntbert: but someone? what's recommended i do?
[21:24] <macmartine> Ampelbein: ok, not super uncommon?
[21:24] <Ampelbein> macmartine: It's normal.
[21:24] <TinoDidriksen> How can I generate a DVD-DL ISO image that will automount with the files executable? I've tried "genisoimage -gid 0 -uid 0 -J -l -f -v -v -R -r -pad -dir-mode 0755 -file-mode 0755 -udf -o image.iso data" but that automounts with all files as mode 0400. The files in data folder are executable.
[21:24] <guntbert> macmartine: if it happens very often have a look at fail2ban (not sure if it will handle vsftp)
[21:25] <ikonia> common sense
[21:25] <mahdy> elham⣿ hi , are you new here ?
[21:25] <ikonia> firewall your machine off to smaller range, remove / lock standard name accounts, use tools such as fail2ban to firewall brute force
[21:25] <elham> mahdy✌ hi ,yeah it seems like this :d
[21:26] <zeratul> Please help my ubuntu 10.10. amd64 not get over ip from dhcp
[21:27] <shivam7074> i recently downloaded ubuntu 11.10 wat should i do for security???pls tell???
[21:27] <commodoreC16> I got issue here on cam and skype , may I unfold the bin quick?
[21:27] <ikonia> shivam7074: what do you mean "what should do ?"
[21:27] <ikonia> commodoreC16: sorry what, may you unfold the bin quick ?
[21:27] <commodoreC16> I mean this:
[21:27] <commodoreC16> logitech cam + skype, how can I make them to go along with eachother?
[21:27] <commodoreC16> I connect my logitech webcam to my ubuntu 11.4 (32bit) and nothing happens. I start the guvcview (better than cheese) and the cam is located but only in this program.Now what can I do to get this cam with skype running please?
[21:27] <commodoreC16> Is there any terminal commands that kick skype to accept my cam ?
[21:27] <commodoreC16> Thank you!
[21:27] <FloodBot1> commodoreC16: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <ikonia> commodoreC16: please don't do that again, and "no" there are no terminal commands to activate your camera for skype
[21:28] <shivam7074> means i m frm windows backgroud...do i need any anti-virus or some kinda hacker protection???
[21:28] <pangolin> commodoreC16: the skype website has some trouble shooting tips
[21:28] <martian> shivam7074: no
[21:28] <ikonia> shivam7074 no
[21:28] <commodoreC16> no they do not have they are suck
[21:28] <ThinkT510> !av | shivam7074
[21:29] <ikonia> shivam7074: if you apply common sense to what you are doing, you will have few issues
[21:29] <commodoreC16> I see no help So after 3 years no help
[21:29] <pangolin> commodoreC16: then don't use it
[21:29] <commodoreC16> Its ok I am out bye
[21:29] <commodoreC16> yea you can not use your s to then
[21:29] <ikonia> commodoreC16: bye
[21:30] <shivam7074> "ikonia" wat u mean by applying common sense???
[21:30] <ikonia> shivam7074: just think about what you are doing, eg: if someone sends you an email saying "run this it's great" - don't do it
[21:30] <zeratul> qual o canal do ubuntu brazil
[21:30] <ikonia> !br | zeratul
[21:30] <pangolin> !br
[21:30] <shivam7074> okay!!!
[21:31] <Canadian1296> I set up a mail server (postfix and dovecot). How do I actually use it? I tested with telnet and got a 250, but how do I actually send and receive mail?
[21:31] <martian> shivam7074: in all my years on windows, I never had a virus despite not having antivirus because I exercized the same virtues ikonia is preaching
[21:31] <dougl> is there a way to run virtual iOS or other tablet OS on ubuntu?
[21:32] <ikonia> dougl: no
[21:32] <ThinkT510> dougl: you could use qemu or virtualbox
[21:32] <CFHowlett> dougl   virtual ios?  pretty  sure that can only be done on an apple platform
[21:32] <codepal> itaylor57, lilVaratep - my solution was pluggin in eth0 cable - installing network-manager-gnome, then running nm-applet from the terminal
[21:32] <codepal> thanks for all your help btw
[21:32] <ikonia> dougl: ios is not open source and not available outside an apple product or developer agrement
[21:32] <martian> dougl: look in to VirtualBox; it can run Android, and perhaps others.
[21:32] <nd456> Can anyone help my update Luminance on my ubuntu?
[21:32] <shivam7074> but i hav windows runnig also in this system..n files r shared..so now wat???
[21:32] <nd456> *me update
[21:33] <ikonia> shivam7074: now what ?
[21:33] <Canadian1296> iOS can only be virtualized in xcode in OS X (as far as I know)
[21:33] <dougl> thanks guys....
[21:33] <CFHowlett> Canadian1296   agreed ..
[21:33] <toubsu> why does the gnome-tweak-tool never apply the changes i choose?
[21:33] <toubsu> in particular, theme settings
[21:33] <shivam7074> i read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus it tells i need???
[21:34] <ikonia> shivam7074: what ?
[21:34] <maury> i have problems installing qemu-kvm
[21:34] <shivam7074> anti-virus or firewall
[21:34] <ikonia> shivam7074: I've just told you
[21:35] <ikonia> shivam7074: why are you asking again
[21:35] <ThinkT510> shivam7074: normally you will not need them on linux
[21:35] <pangolin> shivam7074: you don't need anti-virus if you want you can install clamtk like the wiki page says
[21:35] <maury> this appears: Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:35] <maury>  /var/cache/apt/archives/qemu-kvm_0.14.1+noroms-0ubuntu6.2_amd64.deb
[21:35] <martian> shivam7074: the answer to your question is as follows: short answer is NO, long answer is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[21:35] <maury> i google the possible solutions but nothing works
[21:36] <pangolin> maury: try sudo apt-get -f install
[21:36] <pangolin> -f will try to fix and finish installing
[21:36] <maury> i tried that already
[21:36] <pangolin> maury: purge it and try installing it again
[21:37] <shivam7074> sorry i don know anythin i just started using other OS like this i do know difference btween linux n ubuntu i thought that ubuntu was under linux!!!
[21:37] <maury> how to purge it?
[21:37] <maury> sudo apt-get purge qemu-kvm?
[21:37] <pangolin> maury: sudo apt-get purge package
[21:37] <maury> ok cool
[21:37] <ikonia> shivam7074 ubuntu is linux
[21:38] <martian> shivam7074: ubuntu is a type of linux, like how a fiesta is a type of ford... sorta
[21:38] <phpN00b> hi
[21:38] <KingPhisher> shivam7074 linux is the fiesta motor and ubuntu is the rest
[21:39] <maury> pangolin, Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:39] <maury>  dnsmasq
[21:39] <maury>  vde2
[21:39] <shivam7074> where i can learn more abt ubuntu...the manual is outdated its of 10.10???
[21:39] <martian> KingPhisher: although I should have picked a better car ;)
[21:39] <ikonia> shivam7074: https://help.ubuntu.com
[21:40] <lilVaratep> Is there a way to upgrade my Ubuntu distro or do I have to do a reinstall?
[21:40] <KingPhisher> martian: i guess :P
[21:40] <ThinkT510> lilVaratep: what version you using?
[21:40] <lilVaratep> 11.10
[21:40] <pangolin> maury: looks like you got larger issues at hand. I'm not the one who can help you with this, sorry.
[21:40] <Jimbo99> that is the latest
[21:40] <ThinkT510> lilVaratep: then you don't need to upgrade, you are on the latest
[21:40] <lilVaratep> ThinkT510: I thought latest was 12.04?
[21:41] <KingPhisher> lilVaratep: 12.04 is still in beta
[21:41] <ThinkT510> lilVaratep: thats the one under development
[21:41] <maury> ok thanks pangolin
[21:41] <lilVaratep> OKay thanks
[21:41] <lilVaratep> You guys know of any fun and useful things to run in terminal? I'm currently using terminator terminal and I'd like to unbore it
[21:41] <superstraw> i know i can "cat /dev/zero > zero ; rm zero" to zero out a drive, but how do I use all 1's instead of zeros?
[21:42] <ThinkT510> lilVaratep: dungeon crawl stone soup
[21:42] <Ampelbein> maury: You can try to catch your error with apport and report it on launchpad: Do 'sudo service apport start force_start=1', after that do 'sudo apt-get -f install' and send the report.
[21:42] <velko> maury, have you tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a" already?
[21:42] <KingPhisher> lilVaratep: :(){:|:&};: if someone tells you to write that don't type it ever :)
[21:43] <Jordan_U> !danger
[21:43] <vetas_> #list
[21:43] <vetas_> list
[21:43] <Jordan_U> KingPhisher: There was no need to give that command, in any context. Please don't do it again.
[21:43] <martian> lilVaratep: mplayer -vo aa somemovie.avi
[21:43] <maury> velko, yes
[21:43] <KingPhisher> Jordan_U sorry I'm new here
[21:43] <maury> how do i send the report?
[21:43] <lilVaratep> martian: what?
[21:44] <maury> Ampelbein,
[21:44] <Ampelbein> maury: There should be a apport bug reporting window popping up.
[21:44] <martian> lilVaratep: you asked for super useful stuff for the terminal. what's better than ascii video!?
[21:44] <ThinkT510> martian: an ascii game (roguelikes rock!)
[21:45] <maury> no i did not get any window
[21:45] <maury>  sudo service apport start force_start=1
[21:45] <maury> apport start/running
[21:45] <Ampelbein> maury: did you do 'sudo apt-get -f install' after that? Do you still get the error?
[21:45] <maury> yes
[21:46] <Ampelbein> maury: Is there anything in /var/crash?
[21:46] <maury> yes
[21:46] <maury> dnsmasq.0.crash  openssh-server.0.crash  qemu-kvm.0.crash  vde2.0.crash
[21:47] <e-head_> Hi
[21:47] <e-head_> I'm curious whats the official way to disable start up scripts now on a system using upstart?
[21:48] <e-head_> Googling turns up a plethera of different options. Is there an "official" method?
[21:48] <Ampelbein> maury: Ok, for every file in there do: 'apport-bug /var/crash/<name_of_the_crash_file>'.
[21:49] <itaylor57> e-head_, i would say no
[21:49] <e-head_> itaylor57: do you have an opinion on what the "best" method is?
[21:50] <maury> ok thanks Ampelbein
[21:50] <e-head_> Does anyone have an opinion on what the best method is for that matter.
[21:51] <JMLatvala> Anyone tried the 12.04 beta yet?
[21:51] <shivam7074> thnx IKONIA a lot or in cena's style love or hate u cant debate dat u rock...and thxs to matian, pangolin n Thinkt510...i'll try to think t510...but wats it???
[21:51] <CFHowlett> !precise|jmlatvala
[21:52] <ThinkT510> JMLatvala: people in #ubuntu+1 have
[21:52] <JMLatvala> Ah, wrong channel
[21:52] <ThinkT510> shivam7074: thinkpad t510
[21:52] <JMLatvala> I'm sorry :-)
[21:52] <trism> e-head_: if you are on ubuntu natty+, override files are probably the least intrusive: disabling a service on startup is simply: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/servicename.override; you can still start it manually with: sudo start servicename; and delete the file to start it on boot again
[21:53] <itaylor57> e-head_, http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ is the best source for ubuntu
[21:53] <shivam7074> so ur using it???
[21:54] <ThinkT510> shivam7074: indeed
[21:54] <trism> e-head_: reference in the above mentioned cookbook: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[21:54] <skinnux99> ive installed ubuntu on a dell e6400, but cant get the resolution able 1280x800, xrandr confirms the highest mode available is that
[21:54] <e-head_> thanks!
[21:54] <skinnux99> but the card supports much higher resolution
[21:54] <shivam7074> awesome which one 4384???
[21:54] <Trevor69420> hey guys i have a question for you.....  I have my ubuntu server at home acting as my router (DHCP, FIREWALL, DNS, ETC)  is there a way that I can block popups from my server so that it applies to all my client PCs
[21:55] <skinnux99> anyone know what else i cant try?
[21:55] <ThinkT510> skinnux99: the card might but does the monitor?
[21:56] <velko_> Trevor69420, i guess privoxy can do that
[21:56] <Guest25521> new to Ubuntu and Lenox. Recently installed Ubuntu 11.04, but wifi adapter is not being located. Adapter is fine, I can use BLAG and the wifi works fine. Any suggestions?
[21:56] <skinnux99> yeah
[21:56] <skinnux99> its a laptop but the docs say the max is 1440x900
[21:56] <Trevor69420> velko, interesting i'll look into that
[21:56] <skinnux99> it looks pretty horrible at 1280x800
[21:57] <VIPER-II> anyone familiar with "dmraid" ?
[21:58] <ParahSailin_> been having skype die and require a kill -9 to fix problem
[21:58] <engammalsko> I'm going to switch to mint. What's the best way of uninstalling Ubuntu? It's NOT on a seperate partition.
[21:58] <CFHowlett> engammalsko   just install over ubuntu and format
[21:58] <ThinkT510> engammalsko: a wubi install?
[21:59] <engammalsko> ThinkT510: What's that? *googles*
[21:59] <ThinkT510> !wubi | engammalsko
[22:00] <engammalsko> ThinkT510: So I acutally need windows? (I have windows so it's no problem anyway)
[22:00] <engammalsko> ThinkT510: Ty.
[22:00] <ThinkT510> engammalsko: then how do you have a ubuntu install thats not on its own partition?
[22:01] <engammalsko> ThinkT510: Maybe I'm running another Linux, BSD or Mac dist? :p
[22:01] <Trevor69420> velko_, quick question... have you used privoxy before?
[22:02] <ThinkT510> engammalsko: you said you want to uninstall ubuntum how do you have it installed if it isn't on its own partition?
[22:03] <Sleep_Walker> hi, quick and small request for all users of notebooks and smartphones - I'm creating tool for faking MAC address for anonymous connection to WiFi networks, if you would send me first 3 bytes of your MAC address of wireless device along with vendor name, it would be appreciated. There are some databases already, but I'd like to have list of vendor MAC addresses of real devices (not to use broadcom venor part used only in routers etc.).
[22:03] <engammalsko> ThinkT510: Oh nvm. Now when you said it I remember that I actually installed ubuntu from windows instead of directly from the CD. So I guess I've already used wubi.
[22:03] <ThinkT510> Sleep_Walker: please don't spam
[22:03] <velko_> Trevor69420, yes a couple of years ago. i'm not using it now
[22:03] <Sleep_Walker> ThinkT510: there will be no more lines from me...
[22:04] <Trevor69420> velko_ maybe u know the answer... is the listening address suppose to be the LAN side or the WAN side
[22:04] <Trevor69420> i assume LAN right ?
[22:04] <shivam7074> how can i change the look of ubuntu by themes, can i directly get and aplly them or i need other sw???
[22:05] <velko_> Trevor69420, sorry i don't know
[22:05] <Trevor69420> oh
[22:05] <Trevor69420> guess i'll find out in a sec
[22:05] <john_doe_jr> Is there a way to reload the information in your ~/.profile with out having to restart your computer?
[22:05] <velko_> Trevor69420, i used it with one machine only
[22:05] <lilVaratep> Anyone find a great dark-colored wallpaper background for terminal/terminator?
[22:05] <itaylor57> john_doe_jr, . .profile
[22:05] <itaylor57> or source .profile
[22:05] <Trevor69420> oh i see
[22:06] <itaylor57> john_doe_jr, . ~/.profile
[22:06] <Guest25521> anyone have a solution for wifi on a HP dv6000 using Unbuntu?
[22:07] <Ebron> How would I go about moving /boot from one disk to another?
[22:07] <lilVaratep> Anyone find a great dark-colored wallpaper background for terminal/terminator?!! =D
[22:07] <shivam7074> how can i change the look of ubuntu by themes, can i directly get and aplly them or i need other sw???
[22:08] <john_doe_jr> itaylor57: what do you mean .~/.profile?
[22:08] <lilVaratep> shivam7074: sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
[22:08] <itaylor57> john_doe_jr, . ~/.profile run that in a terminal
[22:08] <shivam7074> n then???
[22:08] <Zal> john_doe_jr, you missed a space after the first dot. "." by itself is another spelling of "source"
[22:08] <itaylor57> john_doe_jr, the . says read in
[22:09] <lilVaratep> shivam7074: then in dash search: advanced settings
[22:09] <[AJS]> lilVaratep: does gnome-tweak-tool work with unity?
[22:09] <lilVaratep> AJS: yes it does
[22:09] <[AJS]> lilVaratep: ah I did not know that
[22:09] <lilVaratep> AJS: Currenty on 11.10 with gnome-tweak-tool
[22:11] <Trevor69420> bleh looks like i have to set up every PC to proxy through that... annoying
[22:12] <lilVaratep> Anyone know an irc for mathematics? (calculus)
[22:13] <tazjin> lilVaratep: How about #calculus? ...
[22:13] <ThinkT510> !alis | lilVaratep
[22:18] <suca> ciao
[22:18] <suca> !list
[22:20] <JermBob> /msg ubottu !alis
[22:20] <JermBob> woops
[22:20] <JermBob> lol
[22:21] <wejq> hi guys, i have been messing a bit with grub, and suddenly i realised that something isnt loading, it's a desktop icons title color, and the windows look are too rectangle-like. So i put back backup, but it still occurs
[22:22] <wejq> what should it be, which thing is responsible to this
[22:22] <ikonia> wejq: grub doesn't change your desktop them
[22:22] <ikonia> theme
[22:22] <wejq> it. grub - i only changed OS titles and background (unsuccesfully)
[22:22] <wejq> ok
[22:23] <wejq> i just told ya what i did before that problem
[22:23] <wejq> as possible point of change
[22:23] <wejq> so what could it be ?
[22:23] <ikonia> wejq: I didn't see anything beyond you saying you where messing a bit with grub
[22:23] <ikonia> wejq: hence why I said grub does not change the look/appreence of your desktop
[22:24] <wejq> ok, ok
[22:24] <wejq> i know
[22:26] <icarious> can anyone tell me if AAC is an open standard? or is it patented ?
[22:26] <ThinkT510> wejq: you didn't add or remove nomodeset when messing with grub did you?
[22:27] <xcalibur1978> is there anyone who can help me on this issue? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9541178/cant-connect-to-external-ip-hostname-running-within-my-network
[22:27] <ikonia> the guys on stackoverflow I guess
[22:28] <dwatkins> xcalibur1978: my router also doesn't allow loopback traffic to forwarded ports from an internal machine on the same network, you could always just spoof it by editing your hostfile
[22:29] <xcalibur1978> dwatkins, thanks
[22:29] <WLU> does gnome-shell work with nvidia and multiple monitors. It keeps on falling back to failsafe when I use nvidia-settings to have the second monitor displayed. On one monitor all is fine.
[22:29] <xcalibur1978> dwatkins I think I have to change all the hostfiles within my network?
[22:30] <Timmy> does ubuntu support lvm?
[22:30] <ikonia> Timmy: yes
[22:30] <dwatkins> xcalibur1978: that depends what you want to do, it's a bit of a hack, as you'd have to remove the entry if you take a laptop outside the network etc.
[22:30] <haylo> netinstall 11.04 failed twice with unetbootin and now with .iso to dvd. ending up wiht black screen and no grub menu
[22:30] <Timmy> i want to install but during the installation it seems that it could not recognize my lvm
[22:30] <dwatkins> xcalibur1978: what's the reason for wanting to use the external hostname on the internal network? Can't you just use the machine's internal name?
[22:30] <ikonia> Timmy: lvm needs to be created at install time, you can't use existing lvm, as that will be limited to the OS that hosts the LVM
[22:31] <ikonia> xcalibur1978: you need to use dns views
[22:31] <wolfmitchell> Can I install ubuntu normally alongside windows, still being able to boot Windows?
[22:31] <ikonia> wolfmitchell: yes
[22:31] <ikonia> !dualboot | wolfmitchell
[22:32] <wolfmitchell> Without WUBI?  But it is difficult to test subdomains and such stuff
[22:32] <ikonia> wolfmitchell: read the link
[22:32] <wolfmitchell> Am now.
[22:33] <dwatkins> xcalibur1978: yeah, as ikonia says, you can run bind and use views
[22:33] <wejq> ThinkT510: im sure no, but afterwards i put backup there and it's still occuring
[22:34] <xcalibur1978> dwatkins / ikonia I am already googling that. Thanks guys!
[22:34] <Timmy> i can resize the lvm physical volume. but idk how to resize the partition which has the lvm on it self to create a new partition. do u know how i can do this?
[22:34] <ikonia> Timmy: you won't be able to resize the partition that is in use by lvm
[22:34] <Timmy> so what can i do now? :'(
[22:35] <ikonia> Timmy: in what respect ?
[22:35] <wejq> ThinkT510: everything appears good but nautillus
[22:35] <Timmy> solving this problem, i mean installing ubuntu inside of my other os
[22:35] <ikonia> Timmy: buy a new disk
[22:36] <Timmy> ikonia: dude, this is a laptop, i've a lot of disk and this is not solving the problem ,it's just removing the problem
[22:36] <ikonia> Timmy: ok, remove your other OS, repartition the disk sensibly for a dual boot system
[22:37] <nic> ciao
[22:38] <nic> !listaù
[22:38] <ikonia> nic: please don't
[22:38] <nic> !lista
[22:42] <wolfmitchell> So many joins/quits...
[22:42] <smilcha> is there life in this channel?
[22:42] <lilVaratep> yes
[22:43] <FavLedesma> Can anyone help me out with dual booting Win7 and Ubuntu via usb? Im getting the notorious black screen upon boot up. :(
[22:43] <lilVaratep> I'm currently doing calculus hmoework
[22:43] <lilVaratep> FavLedesma: which version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[22:43] <FavLedesma> 11.10
[22:43] <wolfmitchell> Fav-did you install Ubuntu into the USB?
[22:43] <smilcha> Someus,  welcome,
[22:43] <FavLedesma> Yes i create a usb bootable
[22:43] <FavLedesma> Created*
[22:43] <lilVaratep> FavLedesma: you have the USB installer and used it right?
[22:43] <commodoreC16> HA ! I found the terminal script to make skype work with webcam ! Such bull , to tell me that there is no terminal command and telling me not to use cam. Refering me to bull usless skype forums.Ridiculous answer i did get like one hour ago,here on xchat.Did help myself did not need you ! You know who I am talking to!
[22:44] <FavLedesma> Of course :) it just doesnt seem to like my radeon...
[22:44] <lilVaratep> FavLedesma: boot to recovery and sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:45]  * CFHowlett Thinks this must be full-tilt Friday ...
[22:45] <FavLedesma> ..maybe i out talked my potential...im not the most fluent pc person
[22:46] <lilVaratep> FavLedesma: when do you get black screen? After boot?
[22:46] <FavLedesma> Yes it asks me to install or try with out installation i choose to install and it give me a blank screen but i can hear ui sounds and everything
[22:46] <lilVaratep> FavLedesma: Try this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/ubuntu-11-10-black-screen-after-boot-screen-908044/
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[22:48] <FloodBot1> nathansuchy_remo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <skinnux99> i have a fresh install of ubuntu and the gnome and ubuntu window managers look like crap
[22:49] <skinnux99> how can i fix this?
[22:50] <FavLedesma> Hmm i was looking around and saw that going into the f6 menu and choosing nomodeset would help but was a little hesitant
[22:50] <smilcha> has anyone got free shell account to use? my BT broadband sucks,  wanna get some bnc for irc
[22:50] <shavington> kDE4
[22:52] <shavington> Just by infinity not sure if it was a good move
[22:53] <Someus> smilcha want bnc?
[22:53] <Someus> i got one
[22:53] <shavington> I hope to use apache in ubuntu as a web server
[22:54] <Hubert_> óżku, ty ponoć tez lżysz tylko na kolanach masz... laptopa
[22:54] <CFHowlett> !ru|Hubert_
[22:55] <CFHowlett> !po|Hubert_
[22:55] <CrapForgotNickPW> Hi all. I'm having difficulty building a driver under 10.04-server LTS
[22:55] <CFHowlett> !pl|Hubert_
[22:55] <CrapForgotNickPW> The driver is for the LSI 'fusion' series of controllers.
[22:56] <Hubert_> ubottu: wiesz, że to error był prawda? ;)_
[22:56] <Hubert_> he he he
[22:56] <CrapForgotNickPW> The diver code appears to use a newer kernel API than the stock Ubuntu source tree
[22:57] <CrapForgotNickPW> I'm sure there are patches, but not exactly sure where to look.
[22:57] <CrapForgotNickPW> ANyone adept at this? Is there a better channel to ask?
[22:57] <Seven_Six_Two> I have jockey-recommended nvidia binary, xorg set to separate x-screens. For some reason I can't get it to work all the way. Unity gives me 1 proper desktop and 1 low-res-and-without-panels, kde gives me 1 proper desktop, and one that won't show windows (only panels and widged menus). The second (in kde) shows apps in task manager but not on desktop, where there is just a gradient. Any ideas?
[22:58] <Hubert_> CFHowlett :)
[23:00] <Hubert_> CFHowlett: yes, pol, not ru ;) thx
[23:00] <CFHowlett> Hubert_   sorry.  No insult intended.
[23:00] <Hubert_> np ;)
[23:04] <Chipzzz> Seven_Six_Two: identical monitors?
[23:05] <neodypsis> How do you install Nginx to run as www-data?
[23:06] <ki7mt> nginx is the cache server, apache usually does the heavy lifitign and http config ..
[23:07] <ki7mt> but you can run it stand allone, there's lots of how-too's on the nginx site, just google nginx
[23:08] <Seven_Six_Two> Chipzzz, not same make and model, but both 22" 1680x1050 @60
[23:09] <Chipzzz> Seven_Six_Two: try switching them and see if the problem changes to the other desktop
[23:09] <LogicallyDashing> I've got a video capture card. I can play the video from it, but it's just snow at the moment. It's not supposed to be. I've got an RCA video cable plugged in. I think the card is showing me what's coming in through the coaxial jack, which doesn't have anything plugged in at the moment. So I need to switch inputs. How do I do this? ivtv-ctl doesn't seem to have an option for this...
[23:09] <Seven_Six_Two> Chipzzz, it's not the monitor, it works perfectly using twinview
[23:09] <palladin35y> anyone here uses komposer
[23:09] <Chipzzz> ah...just a thought
[23:10] <CFHowlett> palladin35y   kompozer support @ http://kompozer.net/community.php
[23:10] <Seven_Six_Two> Chipzzz, and I can see the mouse as it goes over the desktop, but not the windows. The panel is shown
[23:10] <neodypsis> ki7mt: I would run Nginx + FastCGI and not Apache, to speed up a Magento installation on a limited VPS
[23:11] <neodypsis> with just Apache, page loads are too slow
[23:11] <palladin35y> thank you CFHowlett
[23:11] <Chipzzz> Seven_Six_Two: hmmm...
[23:12] <ki7mt> you can run all of it from / with Nginx, FasCGI, PHP etc, it's up to the admin, I just prefer apache/php/cgi and Nginx fer cache / proxy work.
[23:13] <Seven_Six_Two> Chipzzz, funny thing, when I hover over the boxes in the task manager, I get a preview of the window. I even entered my wallet password without seeing the window.
[23:13] <Random832> my laptop says the battery is not present
[23:13] <Random832> how do i diagnose what is going on? could this be a software problem?
[23:15] <ki7mt> neodypsis, it's OT but, from my experiences, serving up static content sing Nginx & CDN's with apache proved the best solution for the VPS I had.
[23:16] <hakim> hello everybody
[23:16] <hakim> have anyone tested snort?
[23:16] <danny> hello how do i allow the updating of untrusted packages the ubuntu update manager wont alow me to update anything
[23:16] <Random832> okay, apparently it says that when it is almost fully discharged
[23:16] <ikonia> I've "used" snort
[23:16] <Seven_Six_Two> I've tried snort too
[23:17] <neodypsis> ki7mt: thanks for your suggestions
[23:17] <hakim> oh well
[23:17] <Chipzzz> Seven_Six_Two: have you looked around nvidia's site & tried a couple of different versions of their driver?
[23:17] <hakim> can you give a good doc for snort
[23:17] <hakim> I must use it for my degree
[23:17] <Seven_Six_Two> Chipzzz, yeah, and nvidia-settings doesn't work with older drivers, so it's a pita to use them...
[23:18] <ikonia> hakim: the snort website has excellent documentation
[23:18] <Chipzzz> Seven_Six_Two: difficult situation... it does sound like the problem is with the driver, thoug
[23:18] <hakim> the documentation from the site do you mean?
[23:18] <ikonia> hakim: correct
[23:19] <Seven_Six_Two> Chipzzz, I thought since it was rendering that maybe plasma wasn't starting for the second desktop
[23:19] <hakim> ok thank you should start from there
[23:19] <hakim> tell me is it easy to install it?
[23:19] <neodypsis> ki7mt: have you used www.varnish-cache.org ?
[23:20] <ryan___> Hello. Is there a way to partition the hard drive currently in use using Ubuntu 11.10? I have tried both KDE partition manager and GParted. It said that the device was busy.
[23:20] <ryan___> There should be a way to do it, since you can with Windows...
[23:21] <ki7mt> neodypsis, I played with it a bit in a dev environment a while back, but limited use, and never on a production server.
[23:21] <neodypsis> ok
[23:21] <_Marcus> ryan___: I just tried that today. Get the GParted live cd, and boot to that. You can then access the device, because it's not being used.
[23:21] <_Marcus> !gparted | ryan___
[23:21] <_Marcus> That may help
[23:22] <CFHowlett> ryan___   _marcus gparted is on the live ubuntu cd ...
[23:22] <ryan___> _Marcus: Can I use Unetbootin to put it on a USB?
[23:22] <ryan___> *USB stick
[23:22] <_Marcus> CFHowlett: I feel that GParted's live cd runs faster than Ubuntu's live cd.
[23:22] <_Marcus> ryan___: I don't know
[23:23] <CFHowlett> _Marcus   fair enough
[23:23] <ryan___> _Marcus: Thanks!
[23:24] <ki7mt> neodypsis, the big boys are running apache, nginx and content delivery networks (CDN's). I tested and ran that setup on UB & Centod5 servers. There fast, very fast.
[23:25] <neodypsis> ki7mt, in that setup, apache is forwarded the dynamic php content?
[23:26] <Random832> bug - gvim doesn't show scrollbars properly
[23:26] <Random832> is there a way to just go back to normal scrollbars?
[23:26] <Random832> i get them anyway in firefox and thunderbird
[23:26] <User_007> hello! my indicator-power only shows timer remaining... is there a way to set it to only show percentage?
[23:27] <ki7mt> Yeah, php/scritps back to apache, text, images, compressed files etc etc (static stuff) front-end to Nginx.
[23:27] <capslock286> is there a way to get my system working with a UEFI-partition again? Ever since Windows was uninstalled, this has been removed aswell. I am trying to get Lucid Lynx boot through UEFI instead of BIOS Legacy
[23:27] <neodypsis> and what are the CDNs useful for?
[23:28] <ki7mt> Speed EU.AS,US dont pull big files from single source.
[23:29] <ki7mt> Does the same thing as mirrors basically.
[23:29] <Gentoo64> http://goo.gl/rJjVQ
[23:29] <CFHowlett> !ot|Gentoo64
[23:31] <capslock286> I would appreciate to get some guiding in configuring the UEFI-partition properly under Lucid. Anyone who would like to troubleshoot it?
[23:31] <neodypsis> ki7mt, ok thanks for the info
[23:31] <Gentoo64> fucker
[23:32] <CFHowlett> !ops|gentoo64
[23:33] <Athanasius> ikonia: +b *!*@2001:470:681e:0:*
[23:33] <Athanasius> ... not that
[23:34] <_Marcus> Aw, for a moment there we couldn't use the nick "+b" here, lol
[23:34] <UzbeK> is there any free bnc?
[23:34] <ikonia> UzbeK: nothing to do with this channel
[23:35] <pangolin> UzbeK: znc is in the repos
[23:37] <danny> hello how do i allow the updating of untrusted packages the ubuntu update manager wont alow me to update anything
[23:37] <capslock286> How can I configure Grub2 on a UEFI-partition? I have not succeeded in in compiling GRUB2 according to this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Kernel_unbootable_without_noefi
[23:38] <pangolin> capslock286: try #grub
[23:38] <capslock286> ok. thanks!
[23:41] <Yossi> is there a nice way to delete only empy directories?
[23:42] <Yossi> like mkdir a b; touch a/foo
[23:42] <Yossi> then run a command that would delete b and not a
[23:44] <dfrkp> Yossi: rmdir
[23:45] <Yossi> awesome, thanks
[23:46] <spazbite> å
[23:47] <Pecker> is there any old repos for the old releases? or did they all go away?
[23:48] <CFHowlett> Pecker  archives.ubuntu.com IIRC
[23:50] <zykotic10> !eol | Pecker
[23:51] <Pecker> i know supprot stopped..jsut wonder if i can still dlownload old updates
[23:51] <humungulous> Pecker: i think they literally empty the repositories at eol
[23:52] <geirha> Pecker: Yes, the EOLUpgrades page explains how
[23:52] <jrib> Yosique: rmdir will delete a directory only if it is empty
[23:57] <indio> Hi. I get the duplicate entry at sources.list error. How do I solve it? I can't duplicate entries in that file.
[23:58] <humungulous> indio: duplication of any URL constitutes the error, it need not be a duplicate entire line
[23:59] <Fyodorovna> indio, you get the actual file in a terminal update save it go to the sources.list use crtl-f to find and remove the extra. If it is not there look in etc/apt/sources.list.d