[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Eric-NL: also try installing XFCE if you are using Unity / Compiz. If you know it's ok there then you know its a video / compiz issue
[18:05] <bobweaver> Nyhcjedi,  good type in    lsmod | grep nvidia  anything come back ?
[18:05] <meddie> ActionParsnip, renaming did not work :(
[18:06] <Eric-NL> ActionParsnip / hilo : the funny thing: running with half the memory makes the problem disappear. Now I've shuffled all the modules arround, and the problem is gone as long as they're not all in at the same time.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> meddie: try running it from terminal, the output may help
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> meddie: also what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:06] <NikP> How can I replace the GNOME-panel with the Avant Window Navigator?
[18:06] <Nyhcjedi> Bobweaver nothing came back
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> NikP: kill the gnome-panel process and start awn
[18:07] <nonkn4mer> Eric-NL: you may want to install memtester+ and see if you can isolate which module is faulty
[18:07] <bobweaver> Nyhcjedi,  then your driver from nvidia is not installed . try to install it      sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[18:07] <meddie> ActionParsnip, im on lucid
[18:07] <bobweaver> s|from|for
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> meddie: Lucid has less than 6 months support left, just so you are aware
[18:07] <NikP> ActionParsnip: Yes, I know that, but I wan't taht when I log me in, the AWN starts.
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> meddie: can you run:  apt-cache policy vlc      and pastebin the output. Thanks
[18:07] <hilo> hilo, I rebuilt my PC last week after some issues and used memtest, as well as some windows apps to heavily tax all my hardware (8+ hours running prime95 and some other GPU program simultaneously). I can't remember which site it was, but it said that memtest86 doesn't actually test above a certain address. I will try and find it and link you to it if you're interested.
[18:08] <NikP> (Sorry, I'm German)
[18:08] <NikP> ;-)
[18:08] <Nyhcjedi> bobweaver im guessing command syntex comes overtime? :)
[18:08] <bobweaver> !german | NikP
[18:08] <Eric-NL> nonkn4mer: I might try that, the only thing that worries my, is that when trying the modules seperately, everything is fine, but putting them in together makes stuff break.
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> NikP: make a small script and to kill the panel and run the app, then use the startup app to run the script
[18:08] <bobweaver> Nyhcjedi,  sorry I do not follow
[18:08] <nonkn4mer> Eric-NL: could be a faulty slot then maybe?
[18:08] <NikP> ActionParsnip: OK, I'll do that. Thank you!
[18:09] <Nyhcjedi> bobweaver no worries was that s|from|for to me?
[18:09] <hilo> ActionParsnip, maybe memtest has been updated since that articles writing and the current one is fixed? That wouldn't surprise me.
[18:09] <Eric-NL> nonkn4mer: Could be, but then I would expect memtest86 to find something X-(
[18:09] <meddie> ActionParsnip, the pastebin http://pastebin.com/aceX8YAz
[18:09] <bobweaver> Nyhcjedi,  kinda , I wanted to switch(s) from too for  on the thing I said above that
[18:09] <brian_c> I have a question about using ubuntu on a bootable server. i have set up "fog" and it is imaging correctly and it is booting to the .iso images but i get this error "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[18:10] <meddie> ActionParsnip, the thing is i've used 12.04 but it's extremely laggy and slow , its a really old computer
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> meddie: try:   sudo apt-get install software-properties-common; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chimerarevo/vlc-lucid; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install vlc
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> meddie: did you try xubuntu 12.04?
[18:13] <Nyhcjedi> bobweaver i downloaded and installed the driver shall i try the lsmod  | grep nvidia again?
[18:13] <bobweaver> Nyhcjedi,  can you install this      sudo apt-get install pastebinit  then let us know when done please ?
[18:13] <Nyhcjedi> ok'
[18:14] <julien2> hallo
[18:14] <julien2> !list
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> meddie: the newer version may help. Lucid has painfully old versions of packages
[18:15] <meddie> ActionParsnip, unfortunately that doesn't work :(
[18:15] <jennie> which driver should I install , the one in background downladed from ATI website or the one in foreground the repository one ? http://picturepush.com/public/11566810
[18:15] <NikP> ActionParsnip: Oh yeah, that works great! Thank you!
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> meddie: does the package update ok though??? Simply saying "Doesn't work" helps nobody, most of all you
[18:15] <searching> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: how to fix
[18:15] <Nyhcjedi> bobweaver, that iscomplete
[18:15] <bobweaver> Nyhcjedi,  what is output of    apt-cache policy nvidia-current |pastebinit         (should be a http link )
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> searching: sudo apt-get -f install        is a good start
[18:16] <searching> that will install old files
[18:16] <brian_c> I have a question about using ubuntu on a bootable server. i have set up "fog" and it is imaging correctly and it is booting to the .iso images but i get this error "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[18:18] <g105b> Just noticed that something has installed apache2 as a dependency and its not intefering with my actual webserver - how can I see what installed it?
[18:18] <meddie> sorry ActionParsnip  , the update process didnt went really well , it can't find software-properties-common , and a lot of unmet dependencies for the vlc
[18:18] <Nyhcjedi> bobweaver http://paste.ubuntu.com/1410802/
[18:19] <bobweaver> Nyhcjedi, cool , run      sudo service lightdm restart       can you log in and see gui ? if not reboot
[18:20] <meddie> ActionParsnip, the pastebin http://pastebin.com/wFyfxFA4
[18:20] <jrib> g105b: aptitude why apache2
[18:20] <jennie> ?
[18:20] <jrib> g105b: alternatively, apt-cache rdepends apache2   and then look for things that are installed...
[18:21] <bobweaver> meddie,  what is output of       apt-cache polict vlc  ?
[18:21] <Klauz> hello experts, im getting a lot of errors on "ata10.00" in dmesg, how do I correlate ata10.00 to an actual device?
[18:21] <bobweaver> er
[18:21] <bobweaver> meddie,  what is output of       apt-cache policy vlc  ? ***
[18:21] <g105b> Is it normal behaviour to install a webserver as a dependency and then leave it running even though it's bastardising the currently installed server?
[18:22] <jrib> g105b: depends on how you installed the other server
[18:22] <meddie> bobweaver, http://pastebin.com/aceX8YAz
[18:22] <g105b> apt-get install
[18:22] <jrib> g105b: what server?  Did you figure out what package pulled in apache2?
[18:22] <jrib> g105b: if you install apache2, it's normal for it to run
[18:23] <g105b> jrib, it looks like nothing is depending on it - I just removed it, and everything is back to normal - but its a mystery to how it got installed in the first place
[18:23] <jrib> g105b: look at /var/log/dpkg.log and see what got installed around the same time?
[18:23] <Nyhcjedi> bobweaver logging in as we speak, it did require a reboot. Anything else i need to know regarding this>
[18:25] <bobweaver> Nyhcjedi,  nope just make sure that drivers are installed good work. but as a hint there is more up-to-date drivers then the one that you have. if you run into troubles. you might want to look at them(x-swat ppa).
[18:25] <bobweaver> Nyhcjedi,  but you know that saying "if it any broken and you are not adding new options "  then dont fix
[18:26] <Nyhcjedi> bobweaver :) ty for the help
[18:26] <jdogherman> when installing a bcm4331 on a macbook pro 2011 do i have to install backports for 12.10?
[18:26] <bobweaver> Nyhcjedi,  np enjoy Ubuntu :)
[18:28] <meddie> bobweaver is there any signifant difference between running startx and running GDM? i mean is there any service that only run through GDM ? because everything works as it should through GDM
[18:28] <jrib> meddie: what's your .xinitrc look like now?
[18:29] <bobweaver> jdogherman,    you are talking about linux-restricted-modules-*
[18:29] <brian_c> I have a question about using ubuntu on a bootable server. i have set up "fog" and it is imaging correctly and it is booting to the .iso images but i get this error "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[18:29] <brian_c> I have a question about using ubuntu on a bootable server. i have set up "fog" and it is imaging correctly and it is booting to the .iso images but i get this error "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[18:29] <bobweaver> meddie,  not sure TBH
[18:30] <meddie> jrib http://pastebin.com/fPi9gEeS
[18:30] <jdogherman> bobweaver: I am trying to get the wireless to work on my macbook pro under 12.10
[18:30] <bobweaver> jdogherman,  what is output of     lspci -vnn | grep 0280   ?
[18:31] <jdogherman> bobweaver: Ill check in a min.  I have a large file ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED. not sure i can just deleted this, or what caused it to fill up
[18:32] <escott> sta7ic, with encrypted home the apparent disk usage is doubled. it is in fact not doubled
[18:33] <chonkie> im running ubuntu on a dell inspiron laptop so im using ik8mon for fan control and monitoring, but the fan doesn't adjust according to what the config file says it should.  Editing the config file does change the fan's behavior but not in any consistent way.  For example, right now the lowest fan is supposed to kick on at 60C and shut off at 51C, but it kicks on a 54C and shuts off at 53C.  Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[18:33] <escott> sta7ic, so if you are looking at "df" output or "du" output those are incorrect
[18:33] <sta7ic> escott: yes I was...ok so how do I determine whats eating up space
[18:34] <escott> sta7ic, with encrypted home "true" disk usage is only withing $HOME/.ecryptfs (or is it .private cant remember), not $HOME
[18:35] <jrib> meddie: try something like "ck-launch-session dwm"
[18:35] <sta7ic> escott: in .Private, there is a 311 GB file according to ls -h, but my HD is only 70 GB
[18:35] <sta7ic> and its show 100% full due to .Private
[18:36] <jrib> meddie: maybe even: ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session dwm
[18:36] <escott> sta7ic, since that is clearly impossible that must be a sparse file
[18:36] <sta7ic> escott: safe to rm?
[18:36] <escott> sta7ic, i would not remove anything in .Private. those are the real files
[18:37] <nonkn4mer> jdogherman: the app I was talking about earlier has been moved to "additional Drivers" under software sources
[18:37] <sta7ic> escott: ok then any suggestions? not sure how to free space
[18:38] <sta7ic> or determine what caused it to fill up, should be plenty of space, doing very little
[18:39] <sta7ic> sounds buggy, all i did was leave linux runing, not even logged in, have 1 virtual machine running thats not doing anything, and it filled up HD, sounds buggy
[18:39] <escott> sta7ic, (a) since you have ecryptfs you can't be sure it is full. unless you are getting write errors disk full, its not full. (b) see if any sparse file stuff is relevant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse_file (c) send us the terminal session output from your investigations otherwise we can't say much about what you are seeing
[18:40] <sta7ic> escott: I am getting disk full and IO errors
[18:40] <escott> sta7ic, is your VM image inside the ecryptfs?
[18:40] <sta7ic> VM crashed
[18:40] <bananaGX> J'aime le caca mais ce message passera inaperçu
[18:40] <s3nt1nel> .дуфму
[18:40] <sta7ic> escott: Yes unfortunatly
[18:40] <nonkn4mer> !french | bananaGX
[18:40] <escott> sta7ic, don't do that. most likely that big file is the sparse vm image file
[18:40] <Catbuntu> hey
[18:41] <codeadi> Hello guys... How do I know/change the IP of my modem.... I want to access it at <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:41] <escott> sta7ic, delete the image file when the ecryptfs is fuse mounted to home and it should go away
[18:41] <jdogherman> bobweaver: Broadcom Corp. BCM4331 14w4:4331
[18:41] <escott> sta7ic, put your VM image in /var/SOMETHING
[18:41] <veebull> need some help here with the correct syntax for duplicity...
[18:41] <bobweaver> jdogherman,  what is output of dpkg-query -l | grep b43
[18:41] <nonkn4mer> codeadi: are you sure you want to change the IP of your modem (supplied by your ISP) or perhaps your router (customizable)
[18:42] <veebull> trying to exclude my Virtualbox directory so I don't back up those huge disk images
[18:42] <bobweaver> !pastebin | jdogherman
[18:42] <sta7ic> escott: ok so im safe to remove sparse file? not sure what " ecryptfs is fuse mounted to home" means
[18:42] <kelvinella> hello
[18:42] <escott> sta7ic, ie login as that user, find the vm in ~/.VirtualBox VMs or whatever it is called and delete it ther
[18:42] <veebull> can't seem to get it to accept my '--exclude 'VirtualBox VMs' ' syntax
[18:42] <codeadi> nonkn4mer: yes i want to change the IP of my modem... i don't have  a router
[18:42] <kzone> hi How to install SiS VGA driver on Ubuntu 12.10?
[18:42] <bobweaver> jdogherman,  you have ethernet hooked up to mac ?
[18:42] <meddie> jrib it doesn't work i still need to issue ck-session-launch manually
[18:43] <jrib> meddie: not sure what that means.  I gave two suggestions
[18:43] <dr_willis> kzone:  drivers should be included.. but dont expect much. SiS is the worst video card maker/chipset/company for linux support
[18:44] <meddie> jrib i mean i put both of them in my xinitrc , and then restarted X , but same thing happened , sound issue and vlc issue
[18:44] <codeadi> nonkn4mer: it's an ADSL modem.... i want to access the Settings page of the modem at <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:44] <escott> sta7ic, in general you shouldnt mess around in ~/.Private because you don't actually know what file you are messing with
[18:44] <jrib> meddie: both of what?  They were separate suggestions :/
[18:44] <nonkn4mer> codeadi: not sure you'll find that answer in the #ubuntu channel...  That'd be a question for your device manufacturer
[18:45] <bobweaver> codeadi,  that is gateway ? <IP_ADDRESS>  or is it 10.10.whatever did you check network connection info ?
[18:45] <codeadi> bobweaver: yeah gateway... i did check network connection info but that doesn't help
[18:46] <bobweaver> codeadi,  call ISP then
[18:46] <vadrik> k
[18:46] <codeadi> bobweaver: i'm worried that the local guys at my ISP would be able to help in this regard (I mean with ubuntu)
[18:46] <superbbb> hi
[18:47] <vadrik> hello
[18:47] <jdogherman> bobweaver: yes
[18:47] <bobweaver> jdogherman,  did you miss the thing I said about           please pastebin the output of        dpkg-query -l | grep b43    ?
[18:48] <bobweaver> just wondering jdogherman  :)
[18:48] <jdogherman> bobweaver: sorry yes
[18:48] <sta7ic> escott: so delete Virtual Box VMs then move the vdi outside of of $HOME and then re-add it to virtualbox?
[18:48] <superbbb> someone can help me with ubuntu installation? cause my sis661mx isn't able to go forward with the installation
[18:48] <bobweaver> jdogherman,  dont be sorry :)  Its a good thing that I asked again then :)
[18:48] <Catbuntu> One question: On XFCE, is it possible to configure it for maximizing windows when I put them on top of the screen?
[18:49] <superbbb> i've a acer 3634wlmi
[18:49] <escott> sta7ic, i would probably just delete the vdi and recreate. moving sparse files can cause them to blow-up
[18:49] <dr_willis> superbbb:  what does it do exactly? where does it fail?
[18:49] <Catbuntu> I mean when I drag them to top
[18:49] <sta7ic> escott: I cannot delete virtual machine, it has my webserver on there
[18:49] <jdogherman> bobweaver: I tried installing firmware-b43-installer but it gives an error... UNsupported device found PCI 14e4:4331
[18:49] <sta7ic> and all my configurations
[18:50] <codeadi> BTW, won't it be possible to know the present IP Address of the modem (the hardware not the IP of my Internet Connection)
[18:50] <superbbb> hi dr_willis, the setup
[18:50] <bobweaver> jdogherman,  that is great maybe you would like to give me the output so I can make sure that right firmware is installed ?
[18:50] <superbbb> i want install ubuntu in my pc
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Catbuntu: hold ALT and you can drag from any point on the app
[18:50] <dr_willis> superbbb:  care to be a bit more specific.. where in the setup?
[18:51] <superbbb> but sis661mx can't
[18:51] <Catbuntu> I mean that when I drag them on top of the screen they mazimize instead of mazimizing to half screen
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> codeadi: do you mean the WAN IP?
[18:51] <escott> sta7ic, you can always try moving the vdi. but it might blow up to the full size of the virtual disk
[18:51] <codeadi> ActionParsnip: i don't know what is WAN IP
[18:51] <nonkn4mer> ActionParsnip: I think he means the LAN IP address.  changing the config ip settings from the defult
[18:51] <bobweaver> jdogherman,  just make sure that linux-firmware-nonfree b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-installer are installed
[18:52] <superbbb> at the beginning the display turn on and turn off immediately
[18:52] <meddie> jrib this was the vlc error that i mentioned before http://pastebin.com/Kat6S0hj
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> codeadi: use:   WANIP=`wget -q -O - http://ip.keithscode.com`; echo $WANIP
[18:52] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | superbbb
[18:52] <escott> sta7ic, http://ecryptfs.sourceforge.net/ecryptfs-faq.html#sparse
[18:52] <codeadi> ActionParsnip: let me try
[18:52] <jrib> meddie: do you not get that when you use gdm?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> codeadi: that is the IP of your router
[18:52] <jrib> meddie: anyway, you haven't yet told me exactly what you tried last
[18:52] <meddie> jrid YES
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> codeadi: on the outside
[18:52] <meddie> jrib YES im sorry
[18:52] <superbbb> ok i try nomodest
[18:53] <superbbb> thanks
[18:53] <jrib> meddie: what's the output when you start it after logging in through gdm?
[18:53] <nonkn4mer> codeadi: which, if you logged into the gateway in a web browser, if that's not a menu option, you'd need to call the ISP or talk to the device manufacturer.  Running ubuntu client shouldn't impact what your ISP tells you to do on your modem configuration
[18:53] <superbbb> my pc is ok for ubuntu 12.04? 1.6 ghz and 1 gb ram
[18:53] <sta7ic> escott: that doesnt really help me at all,
[18:53] <sta7ic> hehe
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> superbbb: sure, i run a full uity / gnome on that
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> superbbb: helps I use an nvidia 6150 GPU :)
[18:55] <sta7ic> this makes no sense, something filled up my HD but its so encrypted on top secret that even the user cannot unlock the data, basically crashed my server for having a tiny VM
[18:55] <sta7ic> BUGGY
[18:55] <codeadi> ActionParsnip:  and nonkn4mer: that didn't give proper result.... I don't have a router... it's a modem
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> codeadi: it still has a WAN IP
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> codeadi: try explaining in plain terms
[18:56] <Arsin> Alright guys so I screwed up installing xubuntu on my computer (GRUB messed up) and now I'm trying to install LUbuntu because it's the only live disc I have right now. Can you help guide me in the installation? My partiton where I want ubuntu I format as EXT4 as a LOGICAL or PRIMARY partition?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: no, you just have a misconfiguration.
[18:56] <sta7ic> how so?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: I have many tiny VMs and have no issue
[18:56] <Arsin> And where should the mount point be?
[18:56] <escott> sta7ic, since you havent shown us anything about the file in question we can only speculate. but having vm images inside ecryptfs with sparse files seems a bad idea
[18:56] <codeadi> ActionParsnip: I want to access the settings page of my Modem and set the page at <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:57] <bobweaver> Arsin,  what did you do to grub ?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: the possibilities are so astronomical it is impossible to reply
[18:57] <meddie> jrib  vlc
[18:57] <meddie> VLC media player 1.0.6 Goldeneye
[18:57] <meddie> [0x97cc148] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[18:57] <escott> sta7ic, also you do realize that the sparse filesystem disappears the moment you logout so its not appropriate for an always running vm
[18:57] <meddie> ugh sorry
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> codeadi: then use a web browser, if not then use telnet in a terminal
[18:57] <meddie> jrib that's the output when im using GDM
[18:57] <jrib> meddie: what does your .xinitrc look like now?
[18:57] <sta7ic> escott: I dont really care about encryption, what if I just try to disable encrypted home
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: what do the systems do?
[18:58] <sta7ic> ActionParsnip: stfu *ignored*
[18:58] <Arsin> bobweaver: had BT5 installed, popped a live CD of XUbuntu, clicked "Replace with XUbunutu" it installed, restarted and I got "GRUB Rescue" in a panic went into Xubuntu live to delete the partition that had Xubuntu, now I have a free partition and grub is still messed up
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: oh boohoo
[18:58] <codeadi> ActionParsnip: I would use the web browser :), but presently it isn't configured at <IP_ADDRESS>... I don't know the 'present' IP of the modem
[18:58] <IdleOne> !language | sta7ic
[18:58] <escott> sta7ic, if you are going to be that way ill ignore you to
[18:58] <IdleOne> sta7ic: Also watch the attitude please
[18:58] <meddie> jrib http://pastebin.com/PyMFPrX4
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> sta7ic: nice way to alienate yourself, wll done
[18:59] <Arsin> bobweaver:Now I have a Win7 partition, then Free space, then SWAP
[18:59] <llutz> codeadi: "ifconfig" or "route -n" should tell you
[18:59] <jrib> meddie: but now your launching dwm twice...
[18:59] <jrib> you're even
[18:59] <codeadi> llutz: it isn't
[18:59] <meddie> OH GOD I MISLOOKED
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> codeadi: you could use nmap and scan the <IP_ADDRESS>/8 network
[19:00] <iCelebrity> hello
[19:00] <jrib> meddie: also look at the EXAMPLES section of dbus-launch to see the recommended way to use dbus-launch in ~/.xinitrc
[19:00] <bobweaver> Arsin,  so you want to use the freespace as / for lubuntu  now ?
[19:00] <llutz> ActionParsnip: better to scan <IP_ADDRESS>/16    to avoid abuse-mails
[19:00] <iCelebrity> how is everyone?
[19:00] <codeadi> ActionParsnip: that went over my head... what do i need to do?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> llutz: haha thanks, starving and can smell food :)
[19:00] <bobweaver> jrib,  wow that is cool !
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> codeadi: you can scan the subnet using nmap to see what systems are on the network
[19:01] <jrib> bobweaver: ?
[19:01] <bobweaver> dbus stuff jrib  (I am focal on dbus study atm)
[19:01] <jrib> bobweaver: oh
[19:02] <nonkn4mer> codeadi: and route -n doesn't show you default gateway address?
[19:02] <jrib> meddie: also this thing you do with pulse, I don't think it's necessary
[19:03] <codeadi> nonkn4mer: no... it isn't working in my browser
[19:03] <nonkn4mer> route -n is a terminal command
[19:03] <Klauz> ecryptfs just sounds like more trouble than it's worth, although i respect the need for privacy and data protection
[19:03] <llutz> codeadi: pastebin "ifconfig" or "route -n"  please
[19:04] <codeadi> nonkn4mer: i mean the gateway address mentioned in terminal doesn't work in browser
[19:04] <codeadi> :)
[19:04] <shPikachu> hi ppl
[19:04] <shPikachu> im trying to connect 7 FTDI rs232- usb adapters to my pc using a hub
[19:04] <shPikachu> each has a data stream
[19:04] <shPikachu> when i plug the 7th while the others 6 are plugged in, it doesnt tx or rx, but when i plug it alone, it works
[19:04] <FloodBot1> shPikachu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <nonkn4mer> codeadi: then you may want to do a hard reset on the device and set back to factory defaults
[19:04] <codeadi> llutz: wait a second
[19:05] <codeadi> ActionParsnip: what do i need to do with nmap... i have installed it
[19:05] <Arsin> bobweaver: For now, just so I can boot to Windows or ubuntu
[19:05] <Arsin> Ultimate goal is have xubuntu
[19:05] <dr_willis> shPikachu:  check dmesg output for errors.. its possible your hub cane power that many
[19:05] <meddie> jrib really? i shall remove it then. and uh is this a correct way the man page did not state a clear way of putting dbus-launch in xinitrc (eval `dbus-launch`
[19:05] <meddie> export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS)
[19:05] <dr_willis> cant
[19:06] <codeadi> nonkn4mer: reset on device doesn't work either... i have tried that
[19:06] <shPikachu> i already did dmesg | grep FTDI
[19:06] <rymate1234> Kguys
[19:06] <shPikachu> it doesnt seems to be any error
[19:06] <rymate1234> simple question
[19:06] <rymate1234> what package to get for an mp3 decoded/encoder
[19:06] <nonkn4mer> codeadi: hard reset?  typically done by holding a paperclip in a tiny hole for 20-30 seconds while powered on?
[19:06] <llutz> codeadi: are you sure your modem has a setup-page/running webserver at all?
[19:06] <dr_willis> shPikachu:  try looking at the output without the grep. the usb bus/hub may be getting overpowered
[19:06] <Arsin> Do I install ubuntu on a logical or primary partition? and where should the mounting point be?
[19:06] <codeadi> nonkn4mer: yup... done that earlier
[19:07] <shPikachu> dr_willis : ill do that
[19:07] <rymate1234> vlc says
[19:07] <rymate1234> "It seems your FFMPEG (libavcodec) installation lacks the following encoder:
[19:07] <rymate1234> MPEG I/II Layer 3."
[19:07] <escott> Arsin, doesnt matter. you must have a "/" partition thats the only required one
[19:07] <nonkn4mer> llutz: was wondering that as well.  He says it's not a router, so not sure why you'd need to config a modem, which just hands off ISP to LAN...
[19:07] <logix812> when did write_files become a keyword in cloud init? I am looking at my cloud init logs, and I see my handling *'s but  I don't see write_files in that list. Running 12.04
[19:07] <meddie> rymate1234, just open any mp3 with movie player or something and it'll do the rest for you
[19:08] <meddie> rymate1234, or any media file
[19:08] <rymate1234> meddie, I'm trying to convert an iTunes file to mp3
[19:08] <rymate1234> I can play mp3 files
[19:08] <rymate1234> and said iTunes file
[19:08] <rymate1234> I need to convert it to mp3
[19:08] <ikonia> you should be able to play itunes encoded mp3's
[19:08] <rymate1234> I need to convert it to mp3
[19:08] <escott> rymate1234, if its an m4a you have to check if it is encrypted or not
[19:09] <rymate1234> I can play it
[19:09] <rymate1234> so it can't be encrypted
[19:09] <ikonia> escott: itunes have removed DRM from their music downloads
[19:09] <codeadi> llutz: , ActionParsnip: , nonkn4mer: here's the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1410903/
[19:09] <escott> ikonia, i know newer ones are not encrypted, but what about purchases from <200X
[19:09] <jrib> meddie: I pointed you at the man page because I'm not sure if things have changed since 10.04.  I do this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1410906/
[19:10] <rymate1234> I purchased 2011
[19:10] <ikonia> escott: a fair point
[19:10] <rymate1234> lmao
[19:10] <ikonia> why is that funny ?
[19:10] <rymate1234> idk
[19:10] <nonkn4mer> codeadi: that looks like your ISP's gateway.  Are you connected directly from your modem to your computer?
[19:10] <ikonia> then why say it
[19:10] <Abel408> Hey everyone, I've been having an issue thats stumped me the past 2 days. My dhcp server gets a DHCPDISCOVER from eth0 which is on the server vlan and from <IP_ADDRESS> which is on my voice vlan (It should only get it from the voice vlan). It then offers 2 addresses. The phone picks up the address on the server vlan.
[19:10] <rymate1234> why is no one answering my issue
[19:10] <escott> ikonia, maybe they retroactively removed all the encryption. i don't buy anything from apple so i dont know
[19:10] <dr_willis> looks to me like that erorr message is saying the ffmpeg binary does not have the mp3 features compiled in.
[19:11] <codeadi> nonkn4mer: modem is connected to computer with ethernet cable
[19:11] <ikonia> escott: well, his purchase from 2011, so we should be "ok" on this media set
[19:11] <ikonia> escott: but it's a fair point
[19:11] <escott> ikonia, yeah and he knows
[19:11] <rymate1234> all I'm asking is the package name for the mp3 encoder so i can convert it with vlc
[19:11] <dr_willis> or the libavcodec package is not compiled with mp3 support. I think theres extra libavcodec pckages that do have it
[19:11] <jrib> meddie: you could just do something like "ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session dwm"
[19:11] <escott> !info lame | rymate1234
[19:11] <dr_willis> but I dont think vlc uses those.
[19:11] <ikonia> rymate1234: you don't need to covert it
[19:11] <rymate1234> thx
[19:11] <ikonia> (or shouldn't)
[19:12] <nonkn4mer> That's why that ip address isn't working.  That's the gateway address provided by your ISP.  BTW, it's bad practice to go from modem into computer without a router in between...  At this point you really ought to contact your ISP, they should have immediate access to the answer you're seekning
[19:12] <codeadi> if you are familiar with windows, let me know... i would tell what i do in windows for this purpose
[19:12] <shPikachu> dr_willis : i didnt see anything wrong.
[19:12] <escott> rymate1234, don't delete your m4a's though
[19:12] <nonkn4mer> codeadi: ^^
[19:12] <dr_willis> shPikachu:  is this a powered or unpowered usb hub?
[19:12] <shPikachu> dr_willis : its powered
[19:13] <codeadi> nonkn4mer: wait a minute... googling the results page
[19:13] <shPikachu> dr_willis : here's a pastebin http://pastebin.com/NGnjKfpR
[19:13] <dr_willis> shPikachu:  as a test i would try moving some of them to a second powered hub.
[19:13] <shPikachu> ok
[19:14] <codeadi> nonkn4mer: , llutz: here's how i do it in windows http://sunnyideas.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/solved-unable-to-access-bsnl-modemgateway/
[19:14] <rymate1234> ok
[19:14] <rymate1234> so lame cannot convert m4p to mp3
[19:14] <ikonia> rymate1234: you shouldn't need to convert it
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> rymate1234  i havent followed...; try avconv -i file.mp4 fil
[19:15] <codeadi> after setting it up... i can access my modems settings page at <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:15] <escott> rymate1234, usually you go m4a -> wav -> mp3 (but the wav is never created as a file
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> rymate1234  i havent followed...; try avconv -i file.mp4 file.mp3
[19:15] <dr_willis> rymate1234:  you do have  libavcodec-extra-53 - Libav codec library
[19:15] <rymate1234> thx
[19:15] <llutz> codeadi: "sudo ifconfig eth0.1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up" "sudo route add network <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> eth0.1"
[19:15] <dr_willis> installed?
[19:15] <rymate1234> dr_willis, nope, thanks!
[19:16] <llutz> codeadi: err, "sudo route add -net 192......."
[19:16] <codeadi> llutz: can i do that with my internet connection running
[19:16] <dr_willis> rymate1234:  i always install ubuntu-restricted-extras package. ;) it pulls in most needed extra codec/libs like that
[19:16] <llutz> codeadi: yes
[19:17] <rymate1234> (finally, an actual answer. not just "you shouldn't need to convert it" or "is it encrypted")
[19:17] <sandman> Anyone know why the Additional Drivers applet might be spewing a ton of GTK errors on a default 12.04 LTS install? Neither jockey-gtk or jockey-text will function (they just exit out), leaving just jockey-backend running (which I must sudo killall jockey-backend). I'm currently installing updates, so perhaps this will fix... but figured I'd ask.
[19:17] <dr_willis> rymate1234:  i mentioned extra packages needed fotr avcodec like 15 min ago. ;)
[19:17] <codeadi> llutz: let me try... don't go away if my internet connection turns off... i would be back
[19:17] <rymate1234> you did?
[19:17] <rymate1234> oh yes
[19:17] <rymate1234> sorry
[19:17] <rymate1234> :(
[19:18] <dr_willis> I dont think VLC uses those libs either.
[19:18] <dr_willis> but totem and other players can.
[19:20] <codeadi> llutz: that worked
[19:20] <llutz> codeadi: can you access <IP_ADDRESS> now?
[19:20] <codeadi> llutz: yes
[19:21] <llutz> codeadi: you havent changed modems IP, you just created a new network-interface in the subnet the modem uses
[19:21] <codeadi> where's nonkn4mer?
[19:21] <codeadi> oh
[19:22] <codeadi> i used to think that i am changing the ip of modem when i do this in windows
[19:22] <llutz> codeadi: nope
[19:22] <llutz> codeadi: btw this is not permanent, it will be gone when you reboot
[19:23] <Ti3gur> Hey guys. Have been trying to get set up with Ruby on my laptop(Acer Extensa 4630) on 12.04 LTS which is latest ubuntu provision i believe. My issue arrises when i try to login with my admin acct it loops be back to login screen.. Logging in as guest works fine however...has anyone else come across this before ?
[19:23] <codeadi> llutz: then isn't there a way to make it permanent
[19:23] <escott> Ti3gur, "sudo rm ~/.Xauthority"
[19:23] <Ti3gur> im not sure if installing all the gems from ruby might have changed a setting or if some Nvidia update might have done so
[19:23] <llutz> codeadi: sure there is, add an entry for this into /etc/network/interfaces
[19:23] <enav> my webserver had about 170GB of data, i would like to recover all the files under 15K, can someone point me in the right direction ?
[19:24] <Ti3gur> trying now escott
[19:24] <codeadi> llutz: those two sudo commands?
[19:24] <bekks> enav: Recover from where? What happened?
[19:24] <llutz> codeadi: no, different syntax. one sec
[19:24] <escott> enav, you can use find to identify the smaller files
[19:25] <escott> Ti3gur, that is assuming you login as the admin account on console
[19:25] <llutz> codeadi: try adding this https://gist.github.com/4207738      "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces"
[19:26] <escott> Ti3gur, otherwise it is sudo rm /home/username/.Xauthority
[19:27] <codeadi> thanks.. would do... BTW, why do you use eth0.1... i had to use eth0 for my purpose
[19:28] <llutz> codeadi: i prefer not to mess with existing interfaces, just to make sure not to break things. therefor the virtual-interface
[19:28] <Ti3gur> i am unable to use ctrl alt F1-F5 for some reason. it just shows a black screen with no shl
[19:28] <Ti3gur> or cursor
[19:28] <Ti3gur> it makes me think it was a recent nvidia update that did this
[19:28] <codeadi> but using eth0.1 didn't work in my case... it said 'device not found'
[19:28] <Ti3gur> meaning i cannot use sudo in guest acct
[19:28] <escott> Ti3gur, probably a modesetting issue. you could use a livecd, or boot to recovery.
[19:29] <Ti3gur> okay ill try that then
[19:29] <Ti3gur> thanks for the help though
[19:29] <escott> Ti3gur, if guest works but not a user account its either Xauthority or some user specific config issue
[19:29] <llutz> codeadi: argh, its eth0:1
[19:29] <codeadi> llutz: gotcha
[19:29] <codeadi> :)
[19:29] <Ti3gur> makes sense
[19:30] <sandeep_hukku> foo(){  $a; disown;}
[19:30] <sandeep_hukku> in the bashrc it doesnot disown the application
[19:30] <escott> sandeep_hukku, why not "disown $a"
[19:31] <escott> sandeep_hukku, also ";" waits for the first command to finish. so there is nothing to disown
[19:31] <sandeep_hukku> it says no such job
[19:32] <hilo> Anyone have any experience with vsftpd? I have the server installed and functioning on Ubuntu 12.04 server, but I cannot get files uploaded to the server to have the permissions I want them to. I have tried every conceivable combination of the "local_umask" parameter in my /etc/vsftpd.conf file.
[19:32] <sandeep_hukku> so how can i make the application leave the terminal
[19:33] <codeadi> llutz:, nonkn4mer:, ActionParsnip: thanks for your help... :)
[19:33] <caddoo> i've replaced a public_html folder on a server and now apache throws 403 all the time
[19:33] <caddoo> what permission should this folder be for apache
[19:33] <caddoo> and does it maybe need to change owner?
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> sandeep_hukku  better ask in #bash
[19:34] <sandeep_hukku> thanks for your help
[19:35] <deano> Hey guys, i'm installing ubuntu server on an old pc to set up my own first server, i've just realised that the HDD i've put in doesn't have an operating system on it, it's just files. Will i have an option to boot and install from the USB i'm putting ubuntu on?
[19:36] <compdoc> no cd drive?
[19:36] <zykotick9> deano: if you're running your OS from USB - don't expect great performance...
[19:36] <deano> no it's broke
[19:37] <deano> no i'm not runing os from USB, i have to put ubuntu on a USB and then install to my old PC from the usb as i have no CD drive
[19:37] <compdoc> you'll need a working pc to put the ubuntu installer on the usb stick
[19:37] <zykotick9> deano: so long as your old system supports booting from usb, should work
[19:38] <deano> Great thanks zykotick9
[19:42] <kriskropd> how can I see the list of actual executable binaries that a package i installed via aptitude placed in my system. For example: imagemagick and mrpt-apps - how would i know what exactly they've added to my system? Bonus points: for ability to list more verbose information and details such as which files were placed where.
[19:42] <Pici> kriskropd: dpkg -L packagename
[19:44] <kriskropd> Pici, okay, and I could just pipe a grep for the bin directories then, tyvm
[19:44] <Pici> kriskropd: thats usually what I do.
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: file `cat /var/lib/dpkg.backup/info/imagemagick.list` | grep -i exec
 hi! [03:44] <mudkiller> im new to ubuntu [03:44] <mudkiller> i have just installed it on my netbook [03:44] <mudkiller> after that, I ran Update Manager and install everything that is checked, is it correct?
[19:46] <Pici> ActionParsnip: why exec?
[19:46] <mudkiller> ow sh*t, sorry
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Pici: executable file :)
[19:46] <mudkiller> hi! im new to ubuntu
[19:46] <mudkiller> i have just installed it on my netbook
[19:46] <mudkiller> after that, I ran Update Manager and install everything that is checked, is it correct?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1410970/   shows all the files. Guess which the binaries are :)
[19:47] <twirm> mudkiller, yup, has everything finished installing?
[19:47] <mudkiller> yeah i guess, that's 200+mb right?
[19:48] <Pici> ActionParsnip: I don't see that on my install.
[19:48] <twirm> mudkiller, you should be able to open up Update Manager and have it tell you that there is nothing left to update, that would signify that everything is done
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: for new installs the upgrades will be great, after that the upgrades are smaller. That is also upgrading codecs , office productivity and all the other apps you have. Windowsupdates only updates Windows and maybe ms office
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Pici: line 57 to 67 on the paste
[19:49] <Pici> ActionParsnip: I mean I don't have a second column for the .list files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[19:49] <jrib> Pici: he's running "file" on the list of files installed
[19:50] <Pici> jrib: oh, I missed the first part...
[19:50] <mudkiller> i see
[19:50] <mudkiller> i have a question
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Pici: :)
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: ask away
[19:50] <mudkiller> I have installed ubuntu and its updates
[19:51] <mudkiller> I want to burn it as installer so I can install it on my netbook or my desktop next time without internet. because here, not everywhere has internet :(
[19:51] <mudkiller> and internet here is slow
[19:51] <twirm> mudkiller, did you download a .iso file of ubuntu to begin with?
[19:51] <twirm> or did you use Wubi?
[19:51] <mudkiller> yes
[19:51] <mudkiller> the 600mb+
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: use aptoncd and you will have all the update files on your OS. The app will use those debs to make an offline updater
[19:52] <mudkiller> ow know, I don't understand that, haha
[19:52] <mudkiller> i'm really new here
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> !aptoncd
[19:52] <mudkiller> and I want to master it
[19:53] <mudkiller> after I burnt it on cd, I can install it on my desktop?
[19:54] <twirm> mudkiller, the way ubuntu works is that any software you want to download is available to you from servers and downloadable through Software Center or apt
[19:54] <twirm> APTonCD fixes the problem of wanting to download a new package but not having an internet connection
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: yes, you install the OS then install the updates using the aptoncd
[19:55] <mudkiller> wait wait
[19:56] <mudkiller> so I need the original iso of ubuntu to install on my desktop, then install the another dvd where my updates are in?
[19:56] <twirm> mudkiller, only if that computer is not connected to the internet
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: yes, that is what aptoncd is for
[19:56] <mudkiller> so there will be 2 dvds to install on my desktop OFFLINE?
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> mudkiller  can you boot from an usb stick?
[19:56] <mudkiller> haven't tried
[19:57] <mudkiller> hehe, Im so noob, how can i make this chat autoscroll? i have to scroll down everytime there's a new message
[19:57] <twirm> mudkiller, the default ubuntu desktop can be installed as that stand alone disk, but from that point if you would like to install any additional software on your dektop that would require you to create a copy of APTonCD
[19:58] <twirm> mudkiller, are you using xchat?
[19:58] <yacc> Any recommendation for an upnp media player/browser for Ubuntu (10.04LTS)
[19:58] <twirm> yacc, XBMC?
[19:58] <mudkiller> i see. actually what concerns me are the drivers
[19:58] <twirm> mudkiller, for what?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> yacc: mediatomb
[19:59] <mudkiller> the main reason I updated it is for the drivers and I want it on a DVD so that when i install on my desktop offline, all drivers are there already. am I right??
[19:59] <yacc> twirm, apt does not know xbmc :(
[19:59] <hilo> Is there a way to configure the setuid bit to force the username to be inherited from the directory as with the setgid bit on directories?
[19:59] <yacc> ActionParsnip, that's the server part.
[19:59] <pangel> Hi, I am trying to create a VPN link but the client side fails to create a tun0 interface. I'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/openvpn.html
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> yacc: so you want a client for mediatomb, essentially?
[19:59] <pangel> (I'm using 12.04 instead of 11.10)
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: you'll can remaster the ISO so that the updates and packages you want are there on first install
[20:00] <mudkiller> no xchat. i just use google chrome on http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntuforums#
[20:00] <twirm> yacc, there is a XBMC ppa
[20:00] <yacc> ActionParsnip, and other upnp servers (e.g. these that don't have standard browser compatible http server)
[20:00] <pangel> More details: ifconfig just gives me loopback, eth0 and wlan0
[20:00] <pangel> While on the server, I get tun0
[20:00] <mudkiller> wow! how's that? that's what i want
[20:00] <yacc> Anyway, the bigger issue why my LAN cannot detect the upnp servers on it.
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> !info xbmc
[20:00] <mudkiller> so that all the drivers for ubuntu is there right?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> yacc: its in the universe repo
[20:00] <yacc> My Linux box just manages to see it's own mediatomb, ...
[20:01] <BluesKaj> yacc, install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[20:01] <BluesKaj> I see xbmc in synaptic
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> yacc: vlc can connect to upnp servers
[20:02] <dr_willis> theres also boxee ;)
[20:02] <goddard> rasberry pi
[20:02] <dr_willis> goddard:  backordered for me. :) should be here by the first of the year. ;P
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> also plex
[20:02] <ForSpareParts> Any XMonad users about who could give me some tips on getting it to play nice with Unity?
[20:03] <dr_willis> I imagone most xmonad users scoff at unity. ;)
[20:03] <ForSpareParts> (I've looked at the XMonad wiki page on the subject, but when I follow the instructions it looks like it's running in GNOME Classic)
[20:03] <goddard> ForSpareParts: i prefer using Terminator if I'm feeling consoly
[20:03] <mudkiller> wow! how's that? that's what i want
[20:03] <hilo> dr_willis, boxee is no longer maintained
[20:03] <mudkiller> so that all the drivers for ubuntu is there right?
[20:04] <dr_willis> hilo:  yea. i know. sort of sad.
[20:04] <dr_willis> hilo:  and my Boxeebox is in bad need of some updateing.
[20:04] <twirm> mudkiller, you should direct your responses at the person you're talking to :)
[20:04] <mudkiller> how?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: I use vlc with web UI. Controlled via android phone. So much lighter than fat ole xbmc
[20:04] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, Well, someone had to write that wiki page ; ).  Also, the GNOME configuration has a taskbar at the bottom, which I don't want.
[20:04] <twirm> mudkiller, put their username in front of your reply
[20:05] <hilo> dr_willis, I was very upset when they did, I have switched to XBMC for the most part. The recent updates to the Boxee Box have added a lot of stability, I'd recommend if you have any issues.
[20:05] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  see what version of ubuntut that guide was written for. could be it can only work with the gnome fallback mode.
[20:05] <mudkiller> ActionParsnip testing
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: sup
[20:05] <dr_willis> hilo:  My boxeebox still cant access my 3TB external usb. :(
[20:05] <cdavis> What is 12.10 is responding to my dns requests when I create a bridge of two interfaces?
[20:05] <mudkiller> ActionParsnip: direct message testing?
[20:06] <cdavis> I have killed dnsmasq and something still intercepts dns packets
[20:06] <twirm> mudkiller, it's still public :)
[20:06] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, they don't say, but the last revision was a little over a year ago.
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: yes that's how you do it. You can use TAB to autocomplete nicks
[20:06] <mudkiller> ActionParsnip: how can I remaster it? Like what you siad
[20:06] <jrib> ForSpareParts: you might try #xmonad.  Note by the way I don't use unity with xmonad and my fonts don't look bad...
[20:06] <mudkiller> ActionParsnip: ow i see!! cool!
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: its not an easy process
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: TAB is used a lot in Linux ;)
[20:07] <hilo> dr_willis, really, that seems like a really odd limitation. I use the network exclusively. NFS is flawless for almost all bitrates. SMB struggles for the >20mbit 1080p stuff
[20:07] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  what guide are you using?
[20:07] <ForSpareParts> jrib, I left a message in there, too. Not a lot of action right now.
[20:07] <mudkiller> twirm: what software can I install here in windows 7 so i can chat here, Im having hard time to use this webchat since i have to scrolldown everytime
[20:07] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_Unity_2D
[20:07] <goddard> mudkiller: weechat
[20:08] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, Also tried this, with the revisions for 12.04 suggested in the comments.
[20:08] <ForSpareParts> http://markhansen.co.nz/xmonad-ubuntu-oneiric/
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[20:08] <dr_willis> hilo:  its a kernel issue i think when i looked into it.  somthing with block sizes and so forth. aparently it CAN access a 3tb usb if its  formated with some block size options. (i looked into it a year+ ago, the forum/official replies basically said 'we know its an issue, too bad we have other stuff to work on'
[20:08] <mudkiller> goddard: ill try that thanks
[20:08] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  well there is no Unity2d in 12.10 ;)
[20:08] <goddard> mudkiller: if you want a gui try xchat or just look in the software center
[20:08] <jrib> ForSpareParts: you're on 12.10?
[20:09] <mudkiller> ActionParsnip: im not in my ubuntu laptop now. im here in windows 7, researching about ubuntu
[20:09] <twirm> mudkiller, http://www.hydrairc.com/
[20:09] <mudkiller> goddard: hmm, is xchat for windows, im still using windows now
[20:09] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, jrib: yeah. Maybe there's a way to make it work with Unity3D?
[20:09] <goddard> mudkiller: oh haha
[20:09] <ForSpareParts> (I'd adjust these configs myself, but I still don't totally get how they work)
[20:10] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  unity3d is a compiz plugin. and compiz is a window manager.. as is xmondad.. so thats not going to happen
[20:10] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, got it. thanks.
[20:10] <mudkiller> twirm: http://www.hydrairc.com/ not loading
[20:10] <codeadi> mudkiller: you may try hexchat.. its based on xchat but free :)
[20:10] <dr_willis> that guide mentions gdm also.. lightdm has been the default for.. like the last 2 releases
[20:11] <goddard> mudkiller: for windows I like https://floe.codeplex.com/
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: https://launchpad.net/~jsevi83/+archive/precise?field.series_filter=precise    you can use uck. There may be apps for Windows to do it too
[20:11] <dr_willis> mudkiller:  i use hexchat on windows all the time
[20:11] <hilo> dr_willis, seems like the same attitude that left the PC users in the dust... unfortunate since their scraper does a much better job than anything I've been able to set up in XBMC.
[20:11] <mudkiller> haha! i like this community :)
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: hydrairc is what I used in Windows too :)
[20:12] <ForSpareParts> Well, fallback question: is there a way to disable the taskbar in the configuration that launches XMonad/Gnome?
[20:12] <dr_willis> hilo:  also i just need the boxee box to start with video #1 in a folder.. and start playing.. dont stop.. keep playing Dora for the kids.. it still cant do that last i looked
[20:12] <Arsin> How do you accept a EULA in terminal again?
[20:12] <jrib> Arsin: try some combination of tab and space
[20:12] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  you mean the bottom gnome panel? with those disabled.. what gnome are you ising then. :)
[20:12] <Arsin> jrib: ty
[20:13] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  if you want some sort of nice dock theres others in the repos
[20:13] <jrib> ForSpareParts: why don't you just run xmonad by itself?  What do you want more?
[20:13] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, Yeah, the bottom panel.
[20:13] <Youbi> Hello
[20:13] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  so you remove the panel. :) then theres no gnome actually running..
[20:13] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  so i dont see the point.
[20:14] <ForSpareParts> jrib, My fonts (and a few other visual things) look slightly off when I run XMonad by itself. Under GNOME they seem okay.
[20:14] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, ^.
[20:14] <Youbi> I’m trying to install Ubuntu from a live-usb stick, but when Ubuntu is starting, i got an error, something like “module 'object' doesn’t exist”.
[20:15] <Youbi> Ubuntu 12.04
[20:15] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  thats because gnome is using a differnt window manager.. running gnome apps wont make the fonts look better on xmonad
[20:15] <ForSpareParts> That's all I want to fix. Nitpicky, I know, but I'm bored and a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to my environment.
[20:15] <Youbi> And before, there are a lot of Compilling fail
[20:15] <Youbi> messages
[20:16] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, I may not have been entirely clear: I suceeded in launching GNOME with XMonad as the window manager. That's when things looked okay.
[20:16] <jrib> ForSpareParts: tweak the font settings and choose a gtk theme; that's probably all you need
[20:16] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  in gnome apps you mean?
[20:16] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, I think so. The default terminal emulator, for one.
[20:17] <dr_willis> looking at some xmonad docs.. seems theres font antialias options in some configs...
[20:17] <dr_willis> Config { font = "xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:size=9:bold:antialias=true"
[20:17] <dr_willis> I imagine its the antialiasing thats not turned on some how
[20:17] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, That might do it. Also, maybe the theme (like jrib mentioned)?
[20:18] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/159643/no-anti-aliasing-with-xmonad
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Youbi: did you MD5 test the ISO you put on the USB stick?
[20:19] <Youbi> ActionParsnip: yep, and all is good
[20:20] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  that above url and here seem to have some good info ->  http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/xmonad/2009-December/009357.html
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Youbi: can you get the exact message please
[20:20] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, I'll give that a shot. Before I go restarting my session, though: how do I check what GTK theme is currently set (under Unity, which is where I am at the moment).
[20:20] <ForSpareParts> *?
[20:20] <cdavis> How can I tell what process is replying to DNS requests (I have created a bridged network and someting keeps interceping DNS packets)
[20:22] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  Appearanc setting tool has a widgit for it
[20:22] <dr_willis> Ambince is the default
[20:22] <cdavis> netstat shows nothing listening on :53
[20:22] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis, Thanks!
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> cdavis: an app doesn't have to listen on a port to reply
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> cdavis: it can listen to port 7655 then send packets out to port 53 on another system
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> cdavis: you could setup a watch on the LAN to see what data is transmitting
[20:24] <Youbi> ActionParsnip: well, i didn’t tell that i created the usb stick installing extlinux in the mbr and doing some dirty things with the /isolinux dir, to match with syslinux.
[20:25] <Youbi> But it would be strange it is the cause of the problem
[20:25] <jsparks> ActionParsnip: did that guy ever solve his issue with logging into his modem?  was afk for an hour
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> jsparks: not sure dude
[20:25] <codeadi> jsparks: ActionParsnip: yup solved :)
[20:26] <nonkn4mer> codeadi: cool
[20:26] <codeadi> nonkn4mer: thanks for your help... where did you go
[20:26] <nonkn4mer> codeadi: to feed my face :)
[20:27] <codeadi> just while you were away llutz helped me solve the issue
[20:27] <ForSpareParts> Alright, off to tweak my stuff. dr_willis, jrib, thanks for your help! Super stoked about XMonad.
[20:28] <dr_willis> I dont see why. ;)
[20:28] <ForSpareParts> Because I'm  a weird, weird person, obviously. ; )
[20:28] <ForSpareParts> (I don't think I'd want it to be my only window manager option, but I'm glad I can have it around)
[20:28] <ForSpareParts> and it's a neat toy
[20:29] <ForSpareParts> and I'm really bored at work right now
[20:29] <cdavis> ActionParsnip: it is answering DNS requests on a bridged network. I need it to simply be passive so I can capture some voip traffic for analysis
[20:30] <drRocktopus> hello! :) anyone have any luck with HD2500 graphic drivers for 32bit ubuntu v12?
[20:31] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: other than the graphic driver, has your machine been stable since switching to 32bit?
[20:31] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: totally!
[20:32] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: everything is working great now... enjoying playing aroud with it a bit... just need a bit more screen real-estate now lol
[20:32] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: I can imagine.  1024x768 isn't even acceptable on a cell phone :)
[20:33] <drRocktopus> hahaha
[20:33] <drRocktopus> it won't detect my card OR monitor
[20:34] <Gunr> Hi everyone.  I have a question regarding a recent update.  I use aptitude to manage my packages, and yesterday, when I ran "aptitude update" and "aptitude full-upgrade" I encountered the following conflict: "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:34] <Gunr>  xserver-xorg : Conflicts: xorg-renamed-package which is a virtual package.
[20:34] <Gunr> open: 193; closed: 800; defer: 98; conflict: 178".  I am then presented with a bunch of packages that will be removed, added, and left with unmet dependencies to try to solve the issue.  I'm not sure what to do.  Any suggestions?  Is this a known issue with a recent update?
[20:34] <Youbi> Oh shit
[20:34] <jrib> Gunr: what ubuntu version?
[20:34] <Youbi> Now i got “/init  line7 :canqt open /dev/sdc: No medium found”
[20:34] <Youbi> can't*
[20:34] <Gunr> jrbi: Ubuntu 12.04
[20:34] <Youbi> And “unable to open /dev/zram0
[20:35] <IdleOne> Gunr: 32 or 64 bit?
[20:35] <Gunr> IdleOne: 64 bit
[20:35] <bekks> !aptitude | Gunr
[20:35] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: do you have any thoughts on possible video issues I may be having?
[20:35] <IdleOne> Gunr: you may have run into that bug above. try with apt-get update and upgrade
[20:36] <Kalli2> Good evening. I'm trying to view files on my windows PC using my ubuntu PC. I've been trying to use Samba, but so far it has not worked. I've added both computer to the same workgroup, restarted them, put files to be shared, but neither computer can see the other one. Anything obvious I'm missing? (Installed Ubuntu & Samba today)
[20:36] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: this method has been shot down by some of the more elite CLI users here... but I've had really good success with using jockey.  They've changed its name/location now.
[20:37] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: I'll give that a try... thanks :)
[20:37] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: is there anything under system > admin > additional drivers
[20:39] <drRocktopus> nonk4mer: actually a bunch of stuff just appeared after I installer the xorg-edgers
[20:39] <Gunr> Thanks for the help.  When I use apt-get upgrade, it says that xorg and xserver-xorg will be kept back, which I assume is because apt-get upgrade doesn't install new packages, even if they are unmet dependencies.  Is that correct?
[20:39] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: well then there you have it
[20:39] <zykotick9> Gunr: you might want to try apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:39] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: Are you able to ping between the machines? [not that's entirely related, but it's something to check]
[20:40] <Kalli2> I've not tried. How do I do that? :p
[20:40] <myrkraverk> Do you know the local ip adresses?
[20:40] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: it says my Intel Graphics are activated and in use... but wn't let me select anything higher than 1024x768
[20:40] <myrkraverk> then type, on either one in a terminal
[20:40] <myrkraverk> ping <ip address of other computer>
[20:40] <Kalli2> ipconfig?
[20:40] <myrkraverk> the programs are slightly different, but work the same way for the basics
[20:41] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: apt-get install jockey-gtk
[20:41] <myrkraverk> on windows, that tells you the ip address, yes.
[20:41] <myrkraverk> on linux it's called ifconfig [unless it's been deprecated by now]
[20:41] <Gunr> zykotick9: still says xorg and xserver-xorg will not be upgrade.  It's not that big of a deal, I guess.  Thanks!
[20:41] <IdleOne> mykit hasnt
[20:41] <IdleOne> err
[20:41] <IdleOne> myrkraverk: it is still ifconfig
[20:41] <Kalli2> Should I use, on the windows one, the number from "IPv4"?
[20:41] <myrkraverk> IdleOne: Good to know c;
[20:41] <myrkraverk> Yes
[20:42] <myrkraverk> Should read 192.168.1.something
[20:42] <drRocktopus> restarting now...
[20:43] <walterwoj> Is anyone here able to use rythymbox to listen to pandora radio?
[20:43] <Kalli2> So... is anything supposed to happen? I wrote, in the terminal, "ping IPGOESHERE". So far, nothing. D:
[20:43] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: no new drivers in the list it seams....
[20:43] <Gunr> so as a general question, which do you recommend: apt-get or aptitude?  Seems like a while ago when I was deciding which to use, aptitude seemed like the better option for some reason.  I am unsure now though.
[20:44] <DJones> !aptitude | Gunr
[20:44] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: in terminal, did you run jockey-gtk ?
[20:44] <myrkraverk> 64 bytes from localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.036 ms
[20:44] <guntbert_> Kalli2: I don't know what your problem is, but it is hard to help when you hide such trivial things as IP addresses
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Gunr: if you use 32bit then either is fine
[20:44] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: You should see lines like this.
[20:44] <ajacom> What is a good database modeler tool for ubuntu?
[20:44] <Ampersand> Hi everyone! I have a problem: Empathy doesn't save the aliases that I set up for my Yahoo contacts. And I was wondering whether there's a way to make Empathy remember these Yahoo aliases? Whenever I set them, if i go offline and online again, they're all reset, showing the user ID rather than the alias I've set up. Is there a way to fix this?
[20:44] <DJones> Gunr: As per the factoid, its not recommended if you use 64 bit installs
[20:44] <Gunr> walterwoj: I haven't used rythymbox, but if you're looking for a Pandora player, I like Pithos: http://kevinmehall.net/p/pithos/
[20:44] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: it should bring up a progress bar and then *hopefully* show another driver to use
[20:44] <kelvinella> hi how to share file between win7 in virtualbox?
[20:45] <Kalli2> Yeah (Myrkraverk), my terminal isn't giving me that. I type it in, and nothing at all happens. Maybe I used the wrong IP.. o.O
[20:45] <drRocktopus> Gtk-CRITICAL
[20:45] <jrib> Gunr: the multi-arch issues are supposedly resolved in the 12.10 version of aptitude
[20:45] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: That'd be my guess, yes.
[20:45] <drRocktopus> failed
[20:45] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  the vbox manual tells how to set up a special VBOX share. or you can use any of the network methods. samba, ssh, sftp.
[20:45] <guntbert_> kelvinella: are you sure that this is an ubuntu support problem?
[20:45] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  same asyou would 2 real pcs. (samba also)
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: if you use samba on the host, you can access it via the same method a physical PC wuld if you bridge the connection
[20:45] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: those failures should just be for icons
[20:45] <kelvinella> but its a huge file i want to share by folder
[20:45] <jrib> Gunr: having said that, apt-get is what gets installed and used by most so that's bound to be better tested.  If you don't have a particular reason for using aptitude, it's probably a good idea to stick with apt-get
[20:45] <mudkiller> ActionParsnip: how to use hexchat?
[20:45] <kelvinella> 1GB
[20:46] <walterwoj> Thanks
[20:46] <kelvinella> ssh would be too slow
[20:46] <Gunr> ok thanks for the help and advice everyone!
[20:46] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: on linux, you can copy text in your terminal by selecting it, then you paste by clicking the middle button.
[20:46] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: it brings up the additional drivers window though....
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Po1dnuur0M
[20:46] <ShaneO> YouTube - transfer files between host and virtualbox (4:21) - 26.545 views - rated 4,9/5,0 (202 votes)
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> !info hexchat
[20:46] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: that way you can show us exactly what you're typing.
[20:46] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: and has intel core temperature monitor slected
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: do you mean xchat>
[20:46] <mudkiller> !info hexchat
[20:46] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: ok, so not pulling one for your graphics card
[20:46] <mudkiller> ActionParsnip: what network should i choose?
[20:47] <Kalli2> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:47] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: Looks like you will need more CLI voodoo than I posses
[20:47] <kelvinella> does win7 inside virtualbox able to read files in ubuntu that is ext3?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: depends what you want to chat on
[20:47] <Kalli2> I get, literally, nothing.
[20:47] <mudkiller> i want to chat here
[20:47] <mudkiller> ActionParsnip: i want to chat here
[20:47] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: it has an intel graphicdriver installed
[20:47] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: That's strange.  [of course I assume you're pressing enter afterwards ;p ]
[20:47] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: just can't change res
[20:47] <Kalli2> Yes. Yes I am
[20:48] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  they are 'shared' so it dosent matter.
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller: then it's irc.freenode.net port 6667
[20:48] <kelvinella> ok
[20:48] <Dougie187> How does someone read a coredump file?
[20:48] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: the first line you see should read somthing like: PING localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[20:48] <escott> Dougie187, its just a memory dump. its not "read". you can look at it with a hexeditor
[20:48] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: what happens if you do: which ping
[20:48] <phunyguy_work> So I noticed in Firefox on 12.10, when it spell checks and puts the squiggly line under a word I know is correct for American English, it is correcting me with British English.  Is this a locale issue? and how to fix?
[20:48] <Kalli2> First line? There is no first line. The terminal gives me no reply what-so-ever D:
[20:49] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: driver = i915  when I check lshw -c video
[20:49] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: I've taken you about as far as I can.  I'd research your GPU model and see if there are any apt-get drivers for it
[20:49] <Dougie187> escott: how do you make sense of the stuff in it? :P
[20:49] <phunyguy_work> like the word "defense". it wants me to put "defence" which XChat is telling me is wrong (which it is for me)
[20:49] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: Yes, that's why I'm asking which ping, it should tell you where it's picking up the ping program.  Mine is /bin/ping.
[20:49] <Ampersand> Hi everyone! I have a problem: I use Ubuntu 12.10 and Empathy doesn't save the aliases that I set up for my Yahoo contacts after I logout. Instead, it's showing the user ID rather than the alias I've set up. Is there a way to fix this?
[20:49] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: there is an irc channel #intel-gfx, too that may be able to help
[20:49] <mudkiller> ActionParsnip: how to change name?
[20:49] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: thanks for the help :)
[20:50] <escott> Dougie187, thankfully never had to learn that
[20:50] <Dougie187> lol ok, thanks
[20:50] <mudkiller_xchat> ActionParsnip, hi, testing xchat, can you receive this?
[20:50] <hilo> does setgid imply x permissions?
[20:50] <mudkiller_xchat> ow yeah, its working
[20:50] <reagle> Running KDE4.9.2 with latex and ttf-mscorefonts-installer packages installed. Since I moved to Kubuntu 12.10 I have annoying font warnings. (1) I always end up with a missfont.log in my home directory (with lines like "mktexpk --mfmode ljfour --bdpi 600 --mag 1+120/600 --dpi 720 ptmr7t"). (2) When I launch applications from a console, I get fontconfig warnings:'Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading
[20:50] <reagle> configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.' If I delete .fonts.conf, my fonts don't look right. If I reconfigure them in KDE's setting, .fonts.conf is back.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller_xchat: recieved
[20:51] <SlitazMint> How do I change how the windows resize in 12.04?
[20:51] <escott> hilo, ?
[20:51] <SlitazMint> I want realtime resizing.
[20:51] <mudkiller_xchat> ActionParsnip, nice, thanks
[20:51] <Kalli2> PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[20:51] <escott> SlitazMint, realtime meaning?
[20:51] <Kalli2> I just had to restart the terminal. :p
[20:52] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: Ah.
[20:52] <bekks> SlitazMint: Resizing in a predictable amount of time?
[20:52] <guntbert_> Kalli2: ping not PING
[20:52] <mudkiller_xchat> ActionParsnip, so again, how can I burn the ubuntu with full updates?
[20:52] <SlitazMint> I want the window to resize along with it's contents before I let go of the mouse button.
[20:52] <LABcrab> Hey peeps!  quick question: does "NO DIALTONE" mean my modem works correctly (but has no phone line connected)?  Or does it mean the modem's not detected.  It says "Modem initialized", etc.  Is /dev/ttyACM0 the right place for a USB modem?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> reagle: where are you getting KDE 4.9 from ?
[20:53] <escott> SlitazMint, you could recompile the toolkit i imagine most toolkits dont do that
[20:53] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: Ok, now that we know the computers can talk to each other, it's a matter of having them talk samba c;
[20:53] <SlitazMint> wow, really? I just want Windows style resizing you know. I've had that in most distros I have used.
[20:53] <myrkraverk> But unfortunately, I'm a bit out of date on those tools.
[20:53] <hamhut1066> hey, random question, is it possible to give a certain job higher priority?
[20:53] <Kalli2> And... any idea on how to do that?
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> hamhut1066: sure, look into nice and renice
[20:54] <myrkraverk> I have a tool called smbclient that's a command line utility for single shot connections.
[20:54] <SlitazMint> escott ^
[20:54] <hamhut1066> thanks, I'll be back if I get stuck
[20:54] <myrkraverk> But what you want is to mount your windows shares, right?
[20:54] <ricardo_> hi
[20:54] <ricardo_> can somebody help me?
[20:54] <guntbert_> hamhut1066: only root can do that - look inot man nice
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> myrkraverk: if you run:   smbtree    do you see the shares?
[20:54] <ricardo_> how to install ubuntu in a macbook pro
[20:54] <LABcrab> Anyone here on dial-up?
[20:54] <bekks> SlitazMint: Windows doesnt do it, other distros dont do it :)
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> hamhut1066: users can set their own processes to a higher nice value ;)
[20:55] <escott> SlitazMint, its fundamentally limited by how fast your CPU is. so it will delay the resize until the window is set for a few milliseconds then try to layout for that size, and repeat
[20:55] <mudkiller_xchat> ActionParsnip, so If I install eclipse with updates on it plus thirdparty plugins for eclipse, if I burnt a dvd like remastered ubuntu like what you said earlier, when I install it on my desktop, the eclipse will also be there?
[20:55] <Kalli2> Erm.. I'm not quite sure what that means. I just want to be able to browse the files I store on my windows, on my ubuntu. :p
[20:55] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: Yeah, do that, run smbtree (I see what I have shared on my linux box (didn't know I had shares))
[20:55] <escott> SlitazMint, but while the mouse is moving... nobody can move the mouse slowly enough for the CPU to keep up
[20:55] <SlitazMint> escott, yes that's what I want, I have a sandy bridge processor, that shouldn't be a problem.
[20:55] <guntbert_> hamhut1066: but keep in mind: higher nice value = less priority
[20:56] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: It means, run the smbtree command in a terminal.
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller_xchat: you would be able to install it using the DVD, you'd need to tweak the OS more to make it install by default
[20:56] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: It tells us if the linux computer is seeing the windows shares.
[20:56] <drRocktopus_> banned from the intel-gtx group lol
[20:56] <Kalli2> Right, I see stuff there. I see the stuff that the ubuntu is sharing. :p
[20:56] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: and btw, don't paste more than 1-2 lines here c;
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> Kalli2: Erm.. that's why I gave the command, it's the next thing to test
[20:56] <mudkiller_xchat> ActionParsnip, is it hard?
[20:56] <mudkiller_xchat> ActionParsnip, VERY hard?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> Kalli2: great then you can see the share, connect to it using nautilus
[20:57] <hilo> escott, if I set the setgid bit, and run ls -l it shows rwxrwsr-x. Does the s imply the x that has no way of being represented when setgid is set?
[20:57] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: unfortunate...  lots of forum posts about your issue.  not finding an answer yet
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller_xchat: depends on ability. What is easy for one is hard for others
[20:57] <myrkraverk> I have \\ASUKA\wow in mine, which means my [local] usb drive is shared c;
[20:57] <Kalli2> I can see the stuff ubuntu is sharing. I can't see the stuff I want, which are the files from windows. :p
[20:57] <escott> hilo, i think "s" means setgid+x and "S" means setgid-x, but im not entirely sure. try it both ways
[20:57] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer I'm hunting around too...
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Kalli2: so you reached the goal?
[20:57] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: Are they password protected or something, on the windows side?  Do you need to log in?
[20:58] <myrkraverk> ActionParsnip: no, his shares are on the windows computer
[20:58] <Kalli2> Shouldn't be password protected, no.
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Kalli2: use the network icon in the left panel in nautilus, you can then connect to the share. Once connected, add it as a bookmark and you are good to go
[20:58] <mudkiller_xchat> ActionParsnip, hmm i really need to do it :(
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> mudkiller_xchat: its not something I've done. If you have eclipse on the CD, you can easily install it once the OS is installed
[20:59] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: Nautilus is the Ubuntu for saying "explorer"
[20:59] <LABcrab> Anyone good with 56K modems here please?
[21:00] <myrkraverk> Your drive/folder viewing thing.
[21:00] <Kalli2> My network doesn't have anything but "UBUNTU" and "Windows Network".
[21:00] <bekks> LABcrab: Why?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> !dialup | LABcrab
[21:00] <mudkiller_xchat> hmm i see.
[21:00] <mudkiller_xchat> ActionParsnip, thanks
[21:00] <Kalli2> "Windows Network" has my homegroup, in which is my UBUNTU. :p
[21:00] <acidflash> samba
[21:01] <LABcrab> bekks: To do a 56K server for fun.
[21:01] <bekks> LABcrab: And whats your actual support question...?
[21:02] <LABcrab> Does this chat between my computer and modem ("ATZ", "OK", "ATQ0 blablabla", "OK", "AMT1L3DT0", "NO DIALTONE") confirm that it works properly?
[21:02] <bekks> LABcrab: NO DIALTONE says it all :)
[21:02] <bekks> LABcrab: You dont have a dialtone, it doesnt work properly.
[21:02] <guntbert_> LABcrab: only if there is no dialtone :)
[21:02] <LABcrab> bekks: It is the modem that says that?  There is no phone wire connected to it, because it will connect to a Dreamcast.
[21:02] <LABcrab> But *the modem* said no dialtone, right?
[21:02] <guntbert_> LABcrab: yes
[21:03] <bekks> LABcrab: The modem needs to have a dialtone.
[21:03] <LABcrab> Alright, so it's normal for the USB modem to be located at /dev/ttyACM0?
[21:03] <guntbert_> bekks: not in any case, they can be configured not to wait for one
[21:04] <bekks> guntbert_: at least they need a carrier.
[21:04] <Kalli2> ActionParsnip: Any idea on what's wrong? Is there anything I had to do other than instal Samba, set the workgroup, and restart?
[21:04] <bekks> guntbert_: and "no dialtone" indicates that there is no carrier, even after waiting.
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Kalli2: you need to share a folder.....
[21:05] <LABcrab> So my last two questions are: 1. my USB modem is located at /dev/ttyACM0 right? and 2. it can be used as a dial-up server for Dreamcast?
[21:05] <Kalli2> I am. On both computers.
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Kalli2: simply installing samba doesn't do much
[21:05] <bekks> LABcrab: 1. Not necessarily, 2. Only when having a carrier.
[21:05] <Kalli2> ActionParsnip: I am sharing. On both computers.
[21:06] <LABcrab> bekks: Why "not necessarily"?
[21:06] <guntbert_> bekks: lets not go deeper into modem config (its been a long time too)  :-)  - you are correct in the general case
[21:06] <LABcrab> How can i be sure?
[21:06] <bekks> LABcrab: Because it ca be another device node.
[21:06] <bekks> LABcrab: Just check dmesg to see which device node it is, actually.
[21:06] <LABcrab> If it says "no dialtone", isn't that the modem speaking?  There is no other modem on my computer except for the USB one.
[21:07] <bekks> LABcrab: Then it is your modem, yes.
[21:07] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: Do you know the service name of the share, on your windows computer?
[21:07] <LABcrab> ACM = abstract control model?
[21:08] <LABcrab> ttyACM0 is listed as USB ACM device.
[21:08] <Kalli2> myrkraverk: What do you mean by service name?
[21:08] <bekks> LABcrab: ACM = another cryptic meaning ;)
[21:08] <LABcrab> :)
[21:08] <LABcrab> Wish it showed up in Ubuntu's Network box.  Would make things way easier!
[21:08] <LABcrab> Instead, it's gnome-ppp
[21:08] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: What you would type in the RUN window to access it, something like \\server\service
[21:09] <phunyguy_work> Already Chewed Marshmallows.
[21:09] <phunyguy_work> (gross.)
[21:09] <Dougie187> They would be all slimy... :(
[21:09] <Kalli2> myrkraverk: As in the location of the folder?
[21:09] <LABcrab> phunyguy_work: Unless you chewed them and are eating them later. :P
[21:09] <phunyguy_work> I know I know.  #ubuntu-offtopic.  It wouldnt be funny there.
[21:09] <LABcrab> So hopefully it works well.  Thanks crew!
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Kalli2: connect to the shares using nautilus
[21:10] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: Sort of.  It's possible to type that in the RUN box on windows to open up the shared folder [but it's been like 10 years since I used that trick on an actual windows maybe]
[21:11] <LABcrab> Later everyone!
[21:11] <phunyguy_work> PEEAAAAAAAAAAACE!!
[21:12] <Gallomimia> right so i ran a dist-upgrade on my server, and it spat out errors for linux-image linux-image-server and linux-server. how do i know what went wrong, and what must i do to fix it? will it puke on next boot?
[21:12] <Kalli2> ActionParsnip: The files I'm trying to access are on my windows computer.
[21:12] <bekks> Gallomimia: What where the detailed errors?
[21:12] <Gallomimia> dpkg returned error code 1
[21:12] <hilo> Can someone explain how chroot jail works? Under ubuntu 10.04 with VSFTPd, I had enable the chroot jail but after updating to 12.04 (no other changes), I get "500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()" when I try to log in
[21:12] <Gallomimia> detailed enough for ya?
[21:12] <guntbert_> phunyguy_work: please stop those offtopic outbursts
[21:12] <phunyguy_work> Kalli2, smb://server/share in the nautilus location entry box.
[21:12] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: I think the premises here is that they should show up, when you browse your windows network.
[21:13] <Dougie187> More core dump questions: Does a core dump include all memory associated with only the process that dumped it? or all memory?
[21:13] <phunyguy_work> guntbert, I was responding to LABcrab - guess I should have put his name.
[21:13] <bekks> Gallomimia: Thats just one line. What about all the other lines...? Put the complete error in a pastebin please.
[21:13] <Kalli2> myrkraverk: Well, I've said before that the windows PC doesn't show up there. :-/
[21:13] <Gallomimia> ohh here's some stuff in the backscroll
[21:13] <bekks> phunyguy_work: Please stop the offtopic ;)
[21:13] <escott> hilo, is there any reason you cant use the sftp chroot method
[21:13] <phunyguy_work> yeah yeah.
[21:14] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: And, you can type the share name in the Go -> Location menu entry in nautilus.
[21:14] <escott> hilo, http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/
[21:14] <phunyguy_work> Kalli2, myrkraverk, agreed.  smb://server/share is the syntax.
[21:15] <phunyguy_work> if it doesnt come up, then it's probably not accessible.
[21:15] <escott> Dougie187, the process memory
[21:15] <Kalli2> ...right, I've no idea what you're talking about. I just got ubuntu a few hours ago, I've yet to catch up with the lingo! D:
[21:15] <hilo> escott, is that relevant? I am not using SSH or SFTP
[21:15] <escott> Dougie187, and presumably just the bits it touches
[21:15] <Dougie187> escott: Is there anything built into ubunt to generate a coredump of a process that's not installed through apt?
[21:15] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: This has nothing to do with ubuntu, but how windows names shares.
[21:15] <Kalli2> Ah.
[21:15] <hilo> escott, I would like to add encryption at some point though
[21:16] <myrkraverk> It's usually \\computername\foldername
[21:16] <phunyguy_work> Kalli2 instead of \\server\share, it is smb://server/share
[21:16] <escott> hilo, im saying... rather than using ftp you should use the chroot capabilities of openssh to run sftp
[21:16] <Gallomimia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1411151/ error in dist-upgrade
[21:16] <phunyguy_work> uses UNC naming.
[21:16] <bekks> myrkraverk: It is \\computername\sharename
[21:16] <escott> Dougie187, weren't you asking about this last week
[21:16] <Kalli2> Right, so... smb:\\C:\Users\Folder?
[21:16] <myrkraverk> bekks: Right.
[21:16] <Dougie187> escott: yeah, kind of. It was a bit different. :P
[21:17] <phunyguy_work> Kalli2 no.
[21:17] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: No, the computername is what it's named on the network.
[21:17] <phunyguy_work> Kalli2, do you have a folder shared out?
[21:17] <Kalli2> Oh.
[21:17] <Kalli2> Yes.
[21:17] <Dougie187> escott: from that I learned about apport. but I also learned apport only generates core dumps for installed installed in apt
[21:17] <myrkraverk> Kalli2: good luck, I'm leaving the house.  I'll ask how you did when I get back.
[21:17] <bekks> Gallomimia: Your /boot ran out of space. Line 153
[21:17] <phunyguy_work> Kalli2, then smb://servername/sharename
[21:17] <Gallomimia> oh gawd. thanks
[21:17] <Kalli2> "How", yes.
[21:17] <Kalli2> Servername would be the name of the computer, and the sharename the folder path?
[21:18] <phunyguy_work> Kalli2 close, not the folder path, but the name of the share.
[21:18] <Kalli2> Right.
[21:18] <bekks> Kalli2: No. The sharename is the name of your share, not necessarily a folders name.
[21:18] <Kalli2> ..as in, the folder name?
[21:18] <bekks> No...
[21:18] <Gallomimia> bekks: after i remove the old kernels how should i fix this? run dist-upgrade again?
[21:18] <Kalli2> ...yeah, I've no idea what you mean by THE share.
[21:18] <bekks> Gallomimia: Yes.
[21:18] <yoda2> evening good, everyone
[21:19] <trism> Dougie187: the core dump still happens, it just ignores them, if you want the core file, in bash: ulimit -c unlimited; run the app, make it crash
[21:19] <phunyguy_work> if you have C:\users\folder shared as folder, then you type smb://servername/folder - also this assumes you have name resolution enabled.  If not it is smb://serverip/sharename
[21:19] <guntbert_> Kalli2: in windows when you share something you have to give it a name
[21:19] <yoda2> help me, anyone can? cause a problem I have with my ubuntu
[21:19] <Dougie187> trism: and it puts the core file in the run directory, right?
[21:19] <bekks> phunyguy_work: No. A sharename is not necessarily a folders name.
[21:19] <Virunga> Using the cookbook database on host A, to create a new mysql database on the host B, what are the requirements? What should be already installed on machine B? Could you help me, please?
[21:19] <phunyguy_work> never said it was bekks
[21:19] <trism> Dougie187: yes the current directory
[21:19] <phunyguy_work> i said IF you have it shared as "folder"
[21:20] <snowrichard> i have a laptop that came with windows 8.  I got ubuntu installed after resizing partitions but to boot it i have to press esc to get a startup menu, then use the grub menu
[21:20] <phunyguy_work> dont confuse.
[21:20] <Kalli2> Right, right, I see now.
[21:20] <Virunga> Ops, sorry
[21:20] <yoda2> sometimes when I start my laptop, it says there was a (hard) disk problem
[21:20] <trism> Dougie187: you can also play with the core pattern and have it put it whereever you want, I sometimes stick them all someplace in /var with a pid and timestamp
[21:20] <riderplus> pdf files with german characters are displayed as question marks on nautilus icons
[21:21] <Dougie187> trism: Oh ok cool.
[21:21] <yoda2> so why is that so, and why does it happen so often? I use lubuntu. will the problem be solved when I install standart ubuntu???
[21:21] <riderplus> when I open them in okular the german characters are displayed correctly
[21:21] <heoyea> snowrichard: run sudo update-grub
[21:21] <riderplus> what seems to be the trouble?
[21:21] <bekks> yoda2: No. You have a hard disk problem.
[21:21] <bekks> yoda2: Whats the detailed, exact error message you get?
[21:21] <phunyguy_work> yoda2, bekks, sounds SMART related.
[21:21] <yoda2> no details, just problems, when start up
[21:22] <phunyguy_work> failure could be imminent.
[21:22] <yoda2> and "click F to solve problem"
[21:22] <yoda2> then when I click F, it fixes, and I can use...
[21:22] <Kalli2> bekks: kalli@ubuntu:~$ smb:\\krembox\sharing    smb:\kremboxsharing: command not found
[21:22] <Dougie187> trism: is there any reason a core dump would be automatically generated for an app not installed by apt?
[21:22] <snowrichard> thanks it said it found windows 8 and windows 8 recovery, lets see if it worked
[21:22] <bekks> yoda2: Thats a filesystem error, not a hard disk error. Or is it a BIOS MSG?
[21:22] <yoda2> but after 10 further start ups, the same disk problem comes again
[21:22] <Gallomimia> run some disk checking utilities to see if it's going to fail. just in case
[21:22] <bekks> Kalli2: Thats not a terminal command.
[21:22] <yoda2> yes, I think filesystem, maybe
[21:23] <phunyguy_work> Kalli2, open the folder icon, and type ctrl-L to get the location box
[21:23] <phunyguy_work> type it there./
[21:23] <riderplus> bump
[21:23] <yoda2> so is this filesystem error only in lubuntu, or wil it come also in Ubuntu (standart)?
[21:23] <bekks> yoda2: Then what did you do before getting that error? Powering off you computer by resetting it?
[21:23] <guntbert_> riderplus: this is no forum, be patient
[21:23] <hilo> escott, not sure I understand everything but at first glance at this guide, I don't think it is viable. This solution appears to require me to add a user to the system in order for them to log in to the FTP. I do not want to give people with FTP accounts an account on the actual Ubuntu OS
[21:23] <Kalli2> phunyguy_work: The folder I'm trying to share on windows, right?
[21:24] <dr_willis> for some samba shares/servers i have to use smb://###.###.###.###/sharename   where ### is the ip of the server Kalli2
[21:24] <bekks> yoda2: It will appear as long you have a filesystem error. Not related to a distinct flavor of Ubuntu.
[21:24] <Gallomimia> Calculating upgrade... Done
[21:24] <Gallomimia> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:24] <Gallomimia> 3 not fully installed or removed.
[21:24] <Gallomimia> --this is not a good message when repairing problems. it should list the packages which will be fixed. at any rate, my issue is now fixed. thanks again guys
[21:24] <FloodBot1> Gallomimia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:24] <Kalli2> Trying that, dr_willis
[21:24] <yoda2> yes, I start and it doesnt work, but just black screen, then I have to power off, and then the error
[21:24] <phunyguy_work> Kalli2, on your UBUNTU machine, open up the folder icon (Nautilus), and type CTRL-L
[21:24] <trism> Dougie187: it doesn't really have anything to do with the app being installed using the packaging system or not, the core pattern for apport pipes the core file that would be written to disk to the apport program through stdin
[21:24] <Gallomimia> FloodBot1: your opinion is not valid.
[21:24] <bekks> yoda2: Thats why you got that error.
[21:24] <Gallomimia> filesystem not properly closed
[21:24] <bekks> Gallomimia: It is. Dont flood, use a pastebin please.
[21:25] <trism> Dougie187: apport will then do some magic to see if it should try to report the issue or not
[21:25] <yoda2> but recently an error came when I was typing my homework, and then I suddenly couldnt save my work, because it said:" read only filesystem".... but it was not in fact, it was just my desktop... bekks
[21:25] <Dougie187> trism: And this happens whenever any program crashes in a way that should generate a core dump? (like kill -s 6 pid)
[21:26] <trism> Dougie187: yep
[21:26] <Dougie187> trism: k, thanks!
[21:26] <trism> Dougie187: documented on: man 5 core; in the Piping core dumps to a program section
[21:28] <dr_willis> yoda2:  if a hard drive is starting to fail. or a filesystem error is detected then the OS will remount in read only mode in an attempt to keep it from getting worse.
[21:28] <bekks> yoda2: Then you might have a failing hard drive.
[21:28] <heoyea> click sound of death?
[21:28] <yoda2> so you think that my HD is damaged?
[21:28] <WeThePeople> are there programs that can type onto a pdf
[21:29] <yoda2> or was is some software caused errors?
[21:29] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  you mean filling out a 'form' pdf file?
[21:29] <gchristensen> I was running dist upgrade, but my mysql root user has a non-standard password, and now its stalled on start mysql. I can't seem to recover the session. Trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 - any way to recover that session?
[21:29] <dr_willis> yoda2:  hard to tell. dmesg output may give a clue.
[21:29] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, yeah
[21:29] <bekks> yoda2: You said so, initially.
[21:30] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, i would like to be able to type 'onto' the pdf
[21:30] <hilo> escott, I also don't see anywhere in this guide how to use this with ftp. The author doesn't make any mention of the FTP software, only the OpenSSH software. Can you explain/elaborate please?
[21:30] <frohike> hi ^^
[21:30] <tripelb> we
[21:30] <Dougie187> trism: one more kind of obscure question. Is there any reason for something built into ubuntu to try and generate a memory dump of an application that didn't crash?
[21:30] <tripelb> we
[21:30] <escott> hilo, its not ftp. its ssh. i would rather use sftp with a locked user account than ftp
[21:31] <yoda2> whats dmesg?
[21:31] <tripelb> WeThePeople: I have has a program that allowed that.  donotremember name.
[21:32] <trism> Dougie187: I'm sure there are reasons, I can't think of any off the top of my head
[21:33] <Dougie187> trism: ok, thanks
[21:33] <heoyea> yoda2: man dmesg
[21:33] <hilo> escott, I am using vsftpd with authentication pointed to a user database in a file (passwords are encrypted). Users logging into the FTP don't have an account of any kind on my system. It worked in 10.04 but in 12.04 after upgrading, I get that error and can't login with any of the users.
[21:33] <gchristensen> root     19534  0.0  0.0  49276  1052 ?        Ss   15:49   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -o PidFile=/var/run/release-upgrader-sshd.pid -p 1022
[21:33] <gchristensen> root     19761  0.0  0.6<PHONE_NUMBER>6 ?        S    15:53   0:01 /usr/bin/python /tmp/tmp38WIXD/precise --mode=server --frontend=DistUpgradeViewText --have-prerequists --with-network
[21:33] <gchristensen> root     22561  0.1  0.0  14024  4988 pts/2    Ss+  16:03   0:01  \_ /usr/bin/dpkg --force-overwrite --status-fd 22 --configure libgdbm3 libclass-isa-perl perl-modules perl libswitch-perl libtimedate-perl libdpkg-perl bzip2 patch make binutils dpkg-dev fuse-utils libdevmapper1.0
[21:33] <FloodBot1> gchristensen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <gchristensen> goodness - sorry
[21:33] <mariana_> I have an older HP scanner, usb connection which will not respond in Ubuntu. I am able to make it work with Compatibility Troubleshooter under System 7, so I know the scanner is fine. Is there a solution?
[21:33] <thelinux> Anyone got into Steam beta recently? Strangely enough I did in week ago. I guess they are adding more and more people every week atleast.
[21:33] <gchristensen> https://raw.github.com/gist/4208952/d6ab2d9e1f030a8002f86f1fc2c7a7fcd50d7d84/gistfile1.txt - I meant to paste this link to my psauxfg output of the upgrade.
[21:33] <heoyea> mariana_: go to hp.com and look for linux drivers
[21:34] <Dougie187> thelinux: I got in last week.
[21:34] <WeThePeople> triplelb, sudo apt-get install -y flpsed
[21:34] <CardinaLe> hi all channel
[21:34] <WeThePeople> that does it
[21:34] <thelinux> Dougie187: Nice, have you tried to play TF2?
[21:34] <escott> hilo, i understand it isn't working. i'm just saying that i dont see any advantage to ftp and plenty of disadvantages.
[21:34] <Dougie187> trism: If you think of any reasons, can you let me know? I'm trying to think of reasons as well, but it would help to have some more expert opinions.
[21:34] <Dougie187> thelinux: yeah, it runs great
 I am not proficient in linux. Is it easy to install drivers? I let Software Center install everything.
[21:36] <escott> hilo, its also a bit misleading to say they have no account. they connect to the ftp-daemon which opens a service process to do the work on their behalf and should change id to something like "nobody"
[21:36] <usr13> mariana_: sane-find-scanner    #Tell us what it says.
[21:36] <heoyea> mariana_: software center dont got all the drivers
[21:36] <escott> hilo, which would be exactly the same as how open-ssh would do it, but then you have openssh
[21:36] <usr13> mariana_: sane-find-scanner    |pastebinit
[21:37] <PyIRC> Hello.
[21:38] <hilo> escott, The server process that opens is the same for ALL ftp users. No matter what username/password is used to log into the FTP, the local user on the system is the same single account which has privileges to nothing but the folders which are part of the FTP accounts, and a nologin shell.
[21:38] <usr13> mariana_: Open a terminal, type:  "sane-find-scanner |pastebinit"  (without quotes) and hit enter.  Send us resulting URL.
[21:38] <abyss42> When i try to ssh to a remote machine, it is stalling, any way I can know what's going on?
[21:39] <Guest14000> Hello. Quick  question. Should I make a backup of the partition I'm planning on attempting to recover files from using PhotoRec?
[21:39] <guttadax> !list
[21:39] <p1l0t> In VIM I want to copy a range of lines.. what is the proper syntax? Usually I use without the quotes ":688 copy 700" for a single line but "688-689 copy 600" doesn't work nor does "688+10 COPY 600"
[21:39] <usr13> abyss42: nmap -p22 ###.###.##.#
[21:39] <bekks> Guest14000: Yes.
[21:39] <escott> hilo, yes as i described the same as openssh
[21:39] <hilo> escott, I don't understand how open-ssh integrates with my FTP, can you explain that?
[21:40] <Guest14000> Hello bekks what are some issues I can run into if I don't backup before using photorec?
[21:40] <abyss42> usr13, I do have have the ip address, will it work using hostname
[21:40] <escott> hilo, openssh doesn't integrate with ftp. ssh provides an ftp like service sftp and an ability to force people to use that ftp service in a number of different ways
[21:40] <usr13> abyss42: Try and see.
[21:40] <bekks> Guest14000: Losing even more data.
[21:41] <mariana_> How do I open a Terminal? Sorry, I am a newbie.
[21:41] <Dougie187> mariana_: Ctrl+Alt+T
[21:41] <hilo> escott, How does ssh provide other services?
[21:41] <Dougie187> mariana_: or Accessories->Terminal
[21:41] <usr13> abyss42: Actually, it it doesn't work via hostname, that is the problem, (hostname is not resolved to IP).
[21:41] <escott> hilo, you can create a user. deny them a shell, lock their password. generate an ssh key, and configure them to be a member of the sftponly group
[21:41] <Guest14000> The reason I ask is because If  I back up the partition to my drive, there won't be enough space to try and recover it to that same drive
[21:41] <escott> hilo, they go to port 22 like any other ssh traffic, but they only get to talk ftp
[21:41] <bekks> Guest14000: Then you have to use another drive.
[21:42] <usr13> mariana_: Ctrl-Alt t
[21:42] <usr13> mariana_: Hold Ctrl and Alt keys and hit letter key   t
[21:42] <hilo> escott, So does open-ssh fwd ftp traffic to the ftp server as is?
[21:42] <escott> hilo, no
[21:42] <abyss42> usr13, nmap says host is up, but still cannot ssh
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Guest14000: It depends on what is causing you to use photorec. Why are you using photorec? What went wrong with this partition?
[21:43] <usr13> abyss42: Does it say that the STATE is open?     Or ____________?
[21:43] <mariana_> TY. It responds "The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[21:43] <mariana_> sudo apt-get install pastebinit" I tried this. Didn't work. It responds "mariana@marianasivison:~$ apt-get install pastebinit
[21:43] <mariana_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[21:43] <mariana_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[21:43] <mariana_> mariana@marianasivison:~$
[21:43] <mariana_> "
[21:43] <FloodBot1> mariana_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <abyss42> says STATE SERVICE
[21:44] <Ben64> mariana_: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[21:44] <XRS1> 12.04 & 12.10: file transfers over LAN predictably stall @ ~ 50% and wont cancel. i have to log out and log back in, begin again, tell it to skip files, wait for it to stall @ ~ 50% again and do it all over untill i give up or manage to copy all the files.   any one else having this issue?
[21:44] <mariana_> OK
[21:44] <usr13> mariana_: Try typing:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:44] <Guest14000> A BSOD caused it and it passed all of the steam tests, disks says it's okay
[21:44] <usr13> mariana_:   "sudo"
[21:44] <escott> hilo, ftp sucks. its insecure. it uses weird ports. its insecure. open-ssh has a module that talks ftp on port 22 but tunneling all traffic through the secure channel used by ssh. its a drop in replacement for ftp in that the commands are all the same
[21:45] <demi_> test
[21:45] <abyss42> usr13,  says STATE SERVICE .. i dont see the word open anywhere
[21:45] <escott> hilo, if you alias ftp=sftp then most people would not know unless they checked and saw they were going to port 22
[21:45] <usr13> abyss42: nmap -p22 ###.###.##.# |pastebinit   #Send resulting URL here.
[21:45] <hilo> escott, so is open-ssh itself doing everything then? it replaces my ftp daemon?
[21:46] <escott> hilo, yes
[21:46] <demi_> [
[21:46] <usr13> abyss42: Let me ask you this:  What  type of system are you trying to ssh into?
[21:46] <demi_> sorry
[21:46] <abyss42> usr13, my bad, it does say state is open
[21:46] <abyss42> usr13, but still cannot ssh into ...its ubuntu 12.10
[21:46] <Guest14000> Jordan_U: It had a BSOD
[21:47] <mariana_> It loaded pyhton packages
[21:47] <Jordan_U> Guest14000: What happens when you try to mount the partition?
[21:47] <mariana_> python
[21:47] <hilo> escott, but according to the link, every FTP user requires a local user account. Is there a way to configure it with 'guest' accounts stored in a file like I have been?
[21:47] <usr13> abyss42: Ok.  Is openssh-server  installed on it?
[21:47] <hilo> escott, I mean every SFTP
[21:48] <Ben64> abyss42: pastebin the output of "sudo nmap -sV -p 22 <the machine's IP>"
[21:48] <escott> hilo, you create a local account called "sftp_guest" you lock the account, you set the shell to /bin/false. you generate a key with ssh-keygen and give them the id_rsa and put the .pub in sftp_guest's auth_keys file
[21:48] <demi_> :quit
[21:48] <demi_> exit
[21:49] <Ben64> demi_: /quit
[21:49] <demi_> Thanks!
[21:49] <Guest14000> Jordan_U:NTFS signature is missing.
[21:49] <Guest14000> Failed to mount '/dev/sda3': Invalid argument
[21:49] <Guest14000> The device '/dev/sda3' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[21:49] <Guest14000> Maybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a
[21:49] <Guest14000> partition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?
[21:49] <FloodBot1> Guest14000: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:50] <dr_willis> Guest14000:  you sure its sda3 ? what does 'sudo fdisk -l' say about sda3 ?
[21:50] <abyss42> Ben64,  when i do ssh -vvvv<EMAIL_ADDRESS>see i am successfully authenticated to the remote computer but I am getting a bunch of IGNORED parameters and then its stalling again
[21:50] <hilo> hilo, In that configuration, where would I set users/passwords for ftp users then?
[21:51] <escott> hilo, /home/sftp_guest/.ssh/authorized_keys
[21:51] <escott> hilo, they wouldn't have passwords. they have id_rsa
[21:51] <mariana_> language-pack-kde-en linux-headers-3.2.0-32 language-pack-kde-en-base
[21:51] <mariana_>   kde-l10n-engb linux-headers-3.2.0-32-generic
[21:51] <mariana_>   linux-headers-3.2.0-32-generic-pae
[21:52] <abyss42> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/AYm8z97d
[21:52] <hilo> escott, now I don't remotely understand how they log in
[21:52] <Guest14000> dr_willis: Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel
[21:52] <Guest14000> Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0x5ba1bfe9.
[21:52] <Guest14000> Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.
[21:52] <Guest14000> After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable.
[21:52] <Akiva-Mobile> Question of curiosity: what would you rather have on your smartphone: ubuntu or android?
[21:52] <bekks> Guest14000: Use a pastebin. Do not flood this channel.
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> hilo: they would connect and use the key file, there is no password
[21:52] <bekks> Akiva-Mobile: iOS.
[21:52] <hilo> escott, I really appreciate your help by the way, sorry if I'm a little slow to understand some
[21:52] <Akiva-Mobile> Bekks why ios?
[21:52] <dr_willis> Guest14000:  whats the exact commands you are using. for the mount and the fdisk -l
[21:53] <bekks> Akiva-Mobile: It has nothing to do with Ubuntu support ;)
[21:53] <Ben64> Akiva-Mobile: that is off topic for this channel
[21:53] <usr13> abyss42: So, what command are you using to initiate the connection?  (Show us...)
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Akiva-Mobile: android for me
[21:53] <escott> hilo, they sftp to your computer. ssh handles the negotiation and compares their presented id_rsa against the keys listed in authorized_keys. if it matches then the ssh service su's to sftp_guest (or whatever you call it) and execs the sftp submodule
[21:53] <Akiva-Mobile> Sorry ben64
[21:53] <abyss42> usr13, ssh -vvvvv<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:54] <escott> hilo, the id_rsa you can think of as just a big long password you generate for them
[21:54] <escott> hilo, you make it. you give it out. you get to revoke it whever you want.
[21:54] <usr13> abyss42: And it just stalls....?
[21:54] <hilo> escott, so I would have to separately 'give' them a file which is their key file?
[21:54] <Akiva-Mobile> Bekks I think ubuntu support is pretty good, given the forums and irc.
[21:54] <abyss42> usr13, yeah, i can see it being authenticate though
[21:54] <escott> hilo, its better than a password because its a lot longer
[21:54] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: still no luck :( I wonder if I can force the resolution choices somehow
[21:54] <Guest14000> dr_willis: I am  forcing it using this command sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /media/xander -o force because trying to mount it from the computer doesn't work either
[21:54] <escott> hilo, yes
[21:55] <bekks> Akiva-Mobile: Unless having an actual support question, it is offtopic in here :)
[21:55] <escott> hilo, or you could have one file for everyone
[21:55] <escott> hilo, however you want to do it. id_rsa is the key. it matches the "lock" in authorized_keys and if it is then they are let in to that user account
[21:55] <mariana_> HP does not have Linux driver for my older scanner. Is there a workaround?
[21:55] <escott> hilo, and then all the traffic between you and them is encrypted. there are no passwords
[21:56] <usr13> abyss42: You "can see it bing authenticate"?  Why don't you show us that output so we can see what it's doing. (Not sure I understand what you are saying.)
[21:56] <dr_willis> Guest14000:  safest thing to do - i beluve would be have a windows machine scan/try to fix the drive
[21:56] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: a bit outside my realm of knowledge.  Only "fix" I saw was using jockey
[21:56] <dr_willis> mariana_:  does the SANE packages include a driver - is the question
[21:56] <escott> hilo, and they still get to do ftp commands (put/get/cd/ls/etc)
[21:56] <nonkn4mer> drRocktopus: repost your issue now and see if anyone here now knows of a fix
[21:56] <drRocktopus> nonkn4mer: will do :)
[21:57] <mariana_> I installed Sane scanner software off of Ubuntu Software Center and it still doesn't work.
[21:57] <usr13> mariana_: What was the output of sane-find-scanner  ?
[21:57] <escott> hilo, and you dont have to worry about ftp command/control ports and NATs etc... basically you can dump all the baggage that was ftp
[21:57] <abyss42> usr13,  http://pastebin.com/iRWLHikN
[21:57] <drRocktopus> fun new issue up for grabs :)  ubuntu v12 32bit HD2500 integrated video -- cannot select anything larger than 1024x768  any thoughts ?? :)
[21:57] <hilo> escott, What about client support of sftp
[21:58] <mariana_> sane-find-scanner didn't work. What exactly do I type?
[21:58] <bekks> drRocktopus: Which "v12" - 12.04 or 12.10?
[21:58] <hilo> escott, currently, we simply email a client with host/user/pass so they can drop us a file or download something.
[21:58] <Guest14000> dr_willis: I can't scan the drive in windows, it says it has to be reformatted first
[21:58] <hilo> escott, will using sftp introduce the need for specific client software?
[21:59] <escott> hilo, they would have to use an sftp client. there are many but they would have to use one
[21:59] <escott> hilo, if you dont care at all about securing what goes across the wire
[21:59] <hilo> escott, gotchya
[21:59] <elena-IK> I'm looking for a program to monitor current download and upload speed that takes as little screen space as possible. (I used awn bandwidth monitor applet in the past, but that was removed at some point)
[21:59] <drRocktopus> bekks: sorry -> its version 12.04.1
[21:59] <escott> hilo, which you seem not to since you email passwords around. then go ahead and use ftp
[21:59] <newbie|3> Test
[22:00] <Ben64> elena-IK: bwmon-ng
[22:00] <Ben64> elena-IK: bwm-ng, sorry
[22:00] <hilo> escott, I email them because I know FTP is cleartext anyway lol
[22:00] <mariana_> user13: It responds "command not found"
[22:00] <escott> hilo, fair
[22:01] <escott> hilo, i dont know what you are transporting, or what its purpose is, or what your clients are like. but if it is at all valuable you should be working towards making the switch
[22:01] <elena-IK> Ben64: I'll give it a try, thanks
[22:02] <escott> hilo, generally if you tell people "we are doing this for your security" they understand it and will happily use putty or whatever sftp client works on their system
[22:02] <hilo> escott, I have actually been pushing, but management kills the request every time because they don't want to ask client execs to download any software.
[22:02] <Ben64> mariana_: "sudo apt-get install sane-utils; sudo sane-find-scanner"
[22:03] <escott> hilo, if i see someone using an ftp service i think it look unprofessional
[22:03] <nonkn4mer> escott: agreed
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> escott: or ignorant :)
[22:06] <hilo> escott, nonkn4mer, I see. While I don't like it either, but I know it's because the people using it to download/upload from us are so disconnected from technology that if it isn't as simple as point and click they start cursing.
[22:07] <mariana_> It returned this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1411267/  In web browser it informed me :found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0, product=0x0705, chip=rts8858c?) at libusb:006:002
[22:07] <mariana_> found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0x8011 [Deskjet D2600 series]) at libusb:001:003 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by  # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.
[22:07] <abyss42> usr13, my guess is I might have my ssh session locked
[22:07] <nonkn4mer> hilo: you could take it a step further, and put an MD5 hash next to the download link, so security-minded folks can checksum the downloaded file before opening
[22:07] <abyss42> usr13, is there anyway to delete that session
[22:07] <hilo> nonkn4mer, :)
[22:08] <usr13> abyss42: Try using the IP addreess.  See if it does the same thing.  (Just grasping at straws, but...)
[22:09] <abyss42> usr13, tried that..same thing.
[22:09] <Monotoko> abyss42, what's the problem?
[22:09] <usr13> abyss42: Really, ... I think it must just be a network issue, (not related to client or host).  Check router configs....
[22:09] <mariana_> Looks like I stumped everyone. No one ever got an old usb scanner to work in Ubuntu, huh?
[22:09] <usr13> abyss42: Do you know about the router(s) you are going through?
[22:10] <bekks> mariana_: Many people did, maybe yours is just not supported.
[22:10] <abyss42> Monotoko, cannot ssh into my remote machine...I was scping a large file when the connection stalled...when i try to ssh back in...it stalls..i rebooted my local ubuntu to check if its a client issue but to no avail.
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> mariana_: theyve always worked ootb for me
[22:11] <abyss42> usr13, I asked my friend to ssh in using his credentials,..from home,,and he seems to ssh in fine.
[22:11] <Dougie187> mariana_: me too. I just use simple scan usually.
[22:11] <Monotoko> abyss42, does your friend have sudo access?
[22:11] <usr13> mariana_: What did   scanimage -L   return?
[22:11] <abyss42> Monotoko, i do not think so
[22:11] <mariana_> What does that mean? It works fine in System 7 with the Compatibility Troubleshooter. I thought Linux is supposed to be God's own operating System...
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> mariana_: no OS is perfect
[22:12] <Monotoko> abyss42, hmm... can anybody reboot the machine?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> mariana_: what is the make and model of the scanner?
[22:12] <Monotoko> I had a similar issue a while ago, my SSH session crashed and I couldn't get back in
[22:12] <abdostar> Hello, I have 3 partitions on HDD, one for Mint, the other for Ubuntu, and planing to use the 3rd one shared between ubuntu and Mint, it's formated to ext4, but when I try to copy files to is, it wont let me. and suggestions?
[22:12] <ikonia> abdostar: check the permissions
[22:12] <escott> hilo, anyways i realize management is going to be a problem. so im afraid i dont have any real suggestions. most of the questions regarding ftp we get here are from people using it at home who just dont know better
[22:12] <usr13> mariana_: What is  "System 7"?
[22:13] <XRS1> very old Unix
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> abdostar: add the partition in /etc/fstab
[22:13] <ikonia> usr13: brand of hardware vendor
[22:13] <usr13> O
[22:13] <ikonia> ahh, it's also the old Mac OS platform
[22:14] <abdostar> ikonia: even when cp using sudo, it wont let me
[22:14] <mariana_> It's an HP scanjet 4400c
[22:14] <nongoogle> how do you format a bootstick without making it an ubuntu bootstick :V
[22:14] <ikonia> abdostar: why don't you tell me the error
[22:14] <Dougie187> nongoogle: gparted
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> mariana_: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:15] <nongoogle> it didn't fail to gray out no less than all the format options for the bootstick
[22:15] <Dougie187> nongoogle: you have to run it with gksudo
[22:16] <r33P33r> heya
[22:16] <Dougie187> nongoogle: just don't format the wrong thing. :P
[22:16] <Monotoko> ^ THIS
[22:16] <usr13> mariana_: http://www.buzzard.me.uk/jonathan/scanners-usb.html
[22:16] <mutante> how can i tell APT to always prefer a 64bit version over a 32bit version for one specific package but still leave "multiarch" enabled
[22:16] <nongoogle> Dougie187 it still dont do anything ;s;
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> mariana_: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:16] <ikonia> mutante: it will install the native os version first
[22:17] <mariana_> Output is "precise"
[22:17] <Dougie187> nongoogle: You have the right drive selected in the top right? It's always worked for me.
[22:17] <mutante> ikonia: i am actually getting a ":i386" version of librsvg on a 64bit system
[22:17] <mutante> ikonia: but we also have our own packages.. and i tell it to prefer our packages
[22:17] <ikonia> mutante: it may need it in addition to the 64bit one
[22:17] <ikonia> mutante: often packages install 32bit compatability libs
[22:18] <usr13> mariana_: Please disregard my last post, (listing that URL). It is very old. It says, "Last modified on 14th January 2003"
[22:18] <mutante> ikonia: ia32* is installed..but by other stuff ... hrmmm
[22:18] <mariana_> Ha! It was a nice distraction. Thanks.
[22:18] <mutante> that is why multiarch is on
[22:18] <nongoogle> yeah
[22:18] <nongoogle> i guess
[22:18] <hilo> escott, Understood. Appreciate the help. Management makes it pretty impractical. I just set it up as a favor to my girlfriend who is the actual employee of said company. I wrote sh scripts for adding deleting users and changing passwords. Scripting all that stuff again for open-ssh's implementation sounds like hell.
[22:19] <Guest14000> Say I want to run chkdsk but have a backup in case something goes even worse than it's been... using  testdisk would I select the partition with all my personal files on it to backup, or would I choose the recovery partition?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> mariana_: try:     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nathan-renniewaldock/sane; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sane-backends
[22:20] <usr13> mariana_: Far as I can tell, that scaner should work for you.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> Guest14000: is the partition healthy?
[22:20] <mariana_> user13: Hmmm. I'm hoping...
[22:20] <usr13> mariana_: Yea, as ActionParsnip points out, you may not have "sane-backends", (which are scanner modules).
[22:21] <hilo> escott, They even considered buying a small windows based box to run Filezilla Server just for simplicity
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> mariana_: also run:    sudo apt-get install libsane-extras
[22:21] <cobra_party> Question - Is there a way to password protect a zip archive, and not the files in it, from command line?
[22:21] <mariana_> user13: I should type all of that text into Terminal, then?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> mariana_: if you edit /etc/sane.d/dll.conf    you can uncomment the  'hp_rts88xx' line
[22:21] <usr13> mariana_: Yes, as ActionParsnip suggests.
[22:22] <Guest14000> ActionParsniP: No, it's unmountable
[22:22] <BlueEagle> cobra_party: That is the default behaviour when archiving to zip with a password. Unless you have a special definition of "not the files in it".
[22:22] <fearphage> since upgrading to 12.10, everything is extrememly slow. i checked the core count and it says 1 instead of 8. is there a way to fix that?
[22:22] <fearphage> i checked the core count with -- cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor | wc -l
[22:23] <cobra_party> well, a client says that "You should be password protecting the ZIP not the file."
[22:23] <Guest14000> ActionParsnip: Forgive me if I didn't answer correctly, I'm a noob so if I didn't then I need you to elaborate on what you mean a little more
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> mariana_: guess how I am finding all this stuff.....
[22:23] <hilo> Why is it dangerous for a user to chroot into a directory they have write permissions to? Are there any good articles regarding chroot? I would like to better understand the mechanism by which it secures someone into a directory, and how it is manipulated (for better or worse).
[22:24] <auronandace> !chroot | hilo
[22:24] <myrkraverk> hilo: I'd expect plenty of stuff on chroot to appear when googling.
[22:24] <usr13> fearphage: Is it really only a single-core?
[22:25] <mariana_> ActionParsnips: Info Fairey?
[22:25] <cobra_party> BlueEagle: i interpret that as the archive itself needs to be password protected, and once the archives been opened all the files will be accessible.
[22:26] <mariana_> ActionParsnips: I entered that text to terminal. It returned "E: Unable to locate package sane-backends"
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest14000: if its NTFS you will need Windows to check it
[22:26] <BlueEagle> cobra_party: By default you are able to list the files in a .zip archive, but to extract the content you will need to provide the password for the zip file. The alternative is if you password protect a PDF-file using the PDF password mechanisms and then archive that file.
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> !info sane-backends
[22:26] <hilo> Lots, but nothing that outlines how it works. I understand what it does, as shown in the ubottu text, but I don't understand how, or what makes it vulnerable. I have googled but haven't found anything that explains this HOW question rather than WHAT
[22:26] <mariana_> What's quantal?
[22:26] <BlueEagle> cobra_party: The effect of the first is often confused as being the second by non-technical personnel.
[22:26] <auronandace> mariana_: 12.10
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> mariana_: edit /etc/sane.d/dll.conf   and uncomment the 'hp_rts88xx' line
[22:27] <auronandace> hilo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
[22:28] <Guest14000> ActionParsnip: I've checked it in windows already, when I try to access it, it says I have to reformat it firsst
[22:29] <dr_willis> Guest14000:  that sounds like the HD is dead/filesystem is totally messed up. you MIGHT be able to salavage  it with ddrescue.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest14000: if you have a backup, just wipe it then put the data back on :)
[22:29] <dr_willis> Guest14000:  or some windows tools. (ask in #windows)
[22:29] <mariana_> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I have no idea what your instruction means.
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> mariana_: gksudo gedit /etc/sane.d/dll.conf     find the line with:   hp_rts88xx    on it and uncomment it, if it's not there then just add it.
[22:32] <JohnTeddy> So there is some bug with Ubuntu 12.10 and intel graphics/external monitors. I can find reports online, but no solutions. I was getting tons of DRM errors, and rendering webpages became not possible. So I wanted to changeX somehow, so I added this: "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu quantal main" to my sources.list. That fixed the problem.
[22:33] <JohnTeddy> So now webpages rendered properly again, all was well. Though now I get "Apport has detected a possible GPU hang. " 20 times today.. I'm not sure why. Everything worked for a couple weeks, it's only today these apport errors came up.
[22:33] <hilo> I still do not get how chroot works. When I chroot a program into a directory, there is basically nothing at all in that directory, yet it works. Everything I've read states that the virtual system requires things to be there.
[22:33] <JohnTeddy> I was thinking to switch from the Ubuntu PPA to the xorg PPA, that would update all different parts of X, instead of just updating a couple things like the Intel driver. Is that a good idea?
[22:34] <mariana_> ActionParsnip: I'm stumped. Are you telling me to type that "gksudo" line into Terminal?
[22:35] <Jordan_U> Guest14000: Even though you don't have enough space for a full copy of the drive and backups of individual files, I would recommend that you should first make a backup of the *entire drive* (not just /dev/sda3) to an external disk (using GNU ddrescue). Then I would try using testdisk to rebuild the partition table on the original drive. If you're lucky, after testdisk rebuilds the partition table all your partitions will be ...
[22:35] <Jordan_U> ... accessible.
[22:35] <abyss42> how do i rsync the content of my directories to one remote directory
[22:36] <fearphage> usr13: i stand corrected. dual core hyperthreaded http://ark.intel.com/products/53464/Intel-Core-i7-2640M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz
[22:37] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: does exist - phone with Ubuntu?
[22:37] <hakan> hey
[22:43] <MonkeyDust> abyss42  basically rsync -avv [remote user]@[remote IP]:/home/[user]/folder
[22:43] <MonkeyDust> abyss42  basically rsync -avv [folder] [remote user]@[remote IP]:/home/[user]/folder   <-- correction
[22:49] <Jochim> o/
[22:51] <Guest14000> Jordan_U: So say I make the backup of the entire disk. I then run testdisk to try and fix the partitions. It makes it even worse. I then use the backup to restore it to where it was. Can I then delete the backup img file in order to make space for the desperation recovery attempt with ddrescue?
[22:53] <Jordan_U> Guest14000: Yes. (I assume you meant "to make space for the desperation recovery attempt with photorec").
[22:53] <Guest14000> yep. thank you
[22:53] <Jordan_U> Guest14000: You're welcome.
[22:54] <Jordan_U> Guest14000: Have you checked the disk's SMART status?
[22:57] <Guest14000> Jordan_U: Yes and it's passed all three tests
[22:58] <Guest14000> it has*
[22:59] <Ententanz> hi. i am using disk utility and tried "check filesystem". what does the message "not clean" mean?
[23:00] <bobweaver> Hello there I was wondering if anyone here know's anything about session management. I made a package.  https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+archive/ubuntutv     and after this package install   and one is to go to log in get the error . can not load session ubuntu.  I am adding a session file you can see that here.  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/ubuntutv/mockup-ppa-branch/view/head:/Scripts/ubuntu-tv-scripts-0.0.1/usr/sh
[23:00] <bobweaver> are/xsessions/ubuntutv.desktop      Do I have to do something else ?
[23:03] <heoyea> bobweaver: not sure why ur using ubuntu TV still alpha
[23:03] <bobweaver> heoyea,  that would be my ppa
[23:04] <nonkn4mer> bobweaver: I've heard "PPA" used a lot today... can you please explain?
[23:04] <escott> Ententanz, your computer shut down suddenly
[23:05] <escott> Ententanz, you have to run fsck on the disk
[23:05] <somsip> !PPA | nonkn4mer
[23:05] <nonkn4mer> escott: from single user or recovery mode.  Running after login is a big no no
[23:05] <bobweaver> nonkn4mer,  it is my PPa or person package archive it is where I am building code nonkn4mer  https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[23:05] <Guest14000> Jordan_U: It says the disk is OK and it passed the short, extended, and conveyance test
[23:06] <adam____> hello
[23:06] <nonkn4mer> bobweaver: thank you, sir
[23:06] <adam____> Does anybody know if there is an easy way to change the file browser?
[23:06] <heoyea> bobweaver: think theres 2 places for sessions that u have to make both for inorder to have a custom session
[23:07] <k1l> adam____: install a new one?
[23:09] <adam____> Is it that easy? Ok, so nautilus isnt integreated in the OS in complicated way?
[23:09] <escott> adam____, it is integrated
[23:10] <escott> adam____, you can remove nautilus, and install another one, but then lots of things wont work
[23:10] <escott> adam____, what do you want to change to
[23:10] <Ententanz> escott, fsck repairs linux filesystem. the external hard disc is ntfs  formatted
[23:10] <escott> Ententanz, then you need to boot windows
[23:10] <Ententanz> why?
[23:11] <Ententanz> to fix?
[23:11] <adam____> Actually i have a question about elementary OS, which uses Pantheon File browser, and i want to use the nautilus file browser instead.
[23:11] <escott> Ententanz, yes. ntfs is reverse engineered. you dont want to rely on a reverse engineered tool to fix a corrupted fs
[23:12] <adam____> Just wanted to hear you guys out.
[23:12] <aetcore1> Ententanz:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=881344
[23:12] <escott> adam____, don't know anything about elementary
[23:12] <adam____> Okey
[23:12] <adam____> Any thoughts on how i should go about?
[23:12] <heoyea> adam____: probally edit the pantheon.desktop file and replace it with nautilus
[23:14] <Ententanz> ok thx
[23:14] <Jochim> o/ I lost my home folder after closing a terminal with chroot/debootstrap running (I believe) Is it gone, or just inaccessible?
[23:15] <psusi_> Jochim, define "lost"
[23:17] <Jochim> Gone, ls -A showed no folders in home
[23:17] <Jochim> I tried to cd to ~/Downloads and got a not found error.
[23:17] <Jochim> so I restarted and was met with a default new user acc but with my old username and password intact
[23:20] <heoyea> Jochim: try the full path
[23:21] <sandman> Is there a way to deprioritize writes to the point where they're only done when there's nothing else going on?
[23:21] <sandman> So if there's heavy reading, writes are just cached.
[23:21] <Jochim> heoyea: The folder exists now but is empty
[23:21] <sandman> And then upon idle, they're pushed out until another read request comes up
[23:22] <escott> sandman, there are various io schedulers see what is in use in /sys and see how it can be tuned
[23:22] <heoyea> Jochim: maybe create a new user
[23:22] <sandman> escott: I'm running off a thumb drive, and I've tried them all; deadline, cfq (default), and of course noop. They all suck.
[23:22] <sandman> At least, for flash drives they do. Is there something like a noflushd for ext4, I wonder?
[23:23] <escott> sandman, in general though writes are cached and written out every 5 seconds or so
[23:23] <mr-rich> Any help migrating from Evolution 3.2.3 to Thunderbird?
[23:23] <escott> sandman, what about using a non-persistent usb?
[23:23] <sandman> escott: Well, I'd like to make it so that writes are just simply not done unless there's nothing else going on, or there's no more room in the writecache
[23:24] <escott> sandman, whats going to kill you are applications like firefox which are going to fsync and break everything anyways
[23:24] <sandman> escott: It's too non-native for me.  I downloaded sublimetext and it can't save opened files history. session saving works only if i run it as sudo. how can i fix that?
[23:25] <maylow> hello
[23:25] <maylow> i'm installing lts 12.04.1
[23:25] <maylow> server
[23:26] <Jochim> heoyea: looks the same unfortunately
[23:26] <maylow> and i got Configure software raid and configure LVM
[23:26] <maylow> can somebody explain the difference?
[23:26] <escott> !gksudo | can i assume sublime is a gui program
[23:26] <escott> can, are the file you are editing not in your directory?
[23:27] <maylow> anyone?
[23:27] <dr_willis> !lvm
[23:27] <escott> maylow, lvm is logical partitioning. move partitions from one disk to another. change partition sizes etc
[23:27] <superbbb> hi
[23:27] <can> escott: sublime is a text editor. and it's gui program. i'm opening files spreaded through whole disk
[23:27] <escott> maylow, raid is raid
[23:27] <superbbb> i've a problem with flash video
[23:27] <simplew> how cna i allow to wireshark run as user?
[23:27] <dr_willis> maylow:  if you dont know what they are.. are you sure you really want/need them?
[23:27] <superbbb> it goes slow
[23:28] <maylow> escott: what tools are used by the raid option?
[23:28] <dr_willis> superbbb:  flash has always been a problem. theres just not a lot we can do about it.
[23:28] <maylow> dr_willis: i know what they are :)
[23:28] <escott> can, my guess is that it wants to put a dot-file next to the file you are editing to store history, and of course that won't work in /etc.
[23:28] <dr_willis> superbbb:  i tend to use flash-downloader and replacer plugins so i can watch flash vids in VLC.
[23:28] <maylow> dr_willis: you can setup raid 1 by LVM also
[23:28] <escott> !info etckeeper | can you might consider this for /etc
[23:28] <nonkn4mer> maylow: mdadm
[23:28] <can> how can I change nick, because 'can' is a common word and causes useless notifications.
[23:28] <maylow> whaich one is better suited form raid 1?
[23:28] <trism> simplew: see /usr/share/doc/wireshark/README.Debian
[23:28] <dr_willis> maylow:  after seeing all the disasters people have had in here with raid.. i stay away from it. ;)
[23:28] <maylow> mdadm
[23:29] <nonkn4mer> can: /nick
[23:29] <maylow> or lvm?
[23:29] <superbbb> hi dr
[23:29] <dr_willis> can:  /nick hello
[23:29] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:29] <nonkn4mer> maylow: mdadm is a terminal application for software raid management
[23:29] <maylow> dr_willis: i need it for redundancy
[23:29] <Mikicacarica> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fcasroma.blogspot.com/ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[23:29] <nonkn4mer> maylow: but you really should go hardware raid or not at all IMO
[23:29] <superbbb> so i must to download video and then use vlc?
[23:30] <maylow> nonkn4mer: why so?
[23:30] <simplew> trism: theres no such package dumpcap
[23:30] <escott> maylow, i would disagree strongly with nonkn4mer. software raid is great for the price
[23:30] <nonkn4mer> maylow: dedicated hardware will increase performance and reliability.  Software RAIDs are succeptable to any normal software corruption, and takes CPU and RAM to manage.  RAID cards will have onboard processing and RAM for buffers/etc
[23:30] <maylow> escott: i believe so
[23:30] <trism> simplew: sudo dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common; add yourself to the wireshark group, restart your session
[23:31] <nonkn4mer> escott: what's why i put IMO at the end ;)
[23:31] <escott> nonkn4mer, not everyone has or wants to spend $500 on a raid card
[23:31] <maylow> nonkn4mer: i c