[10:52] <cjwatson> Laney: I'm half-wondering if it'd be easier to just join the Debian Haskell group, despite knowing very little about Haskell, rather than filing bugs and waiting :)
[14:32] <doko> somebody woke up
[14:50] <doko> did somebody kill the gcc-4.8 build on sagari, or was it just a build failure? no build log anyway
[15:15] <JackYu> slangasek: I translated the header, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin/ImageHeader, would you please  integrate it? thanks.
[15:21] <cjwatson> It'll need considerable work to integrate it.  I'm happy to work on it but it will take a while.
[15:21] <cjwatson> (The whole header is generated from code, none of which is currently i18n-friendly)
[15:22] <cjwatson> JackYu: It would help if you could e-mail me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>a reference to that wiki page; I'll then need to mail back with some specific questions as I have them.
[15:23] <cjwatson> Unfortunately most of this conversation was while I was on holiday so I couldn't intervene to say that it would probably be better if I gettextised the code first :-)
[15:26] <JackYu> cjwatson: Sure, I will send you an email asap, thanks in advance:)
[16:24] <doko> jbicha, are there FFe's for cinnamon and muffin?
[16:41] <infinity> cjwatson: I often find that "just join the group" is easier than filing bugs and sending patches, but then I feel guilty about being a member of a bunch of groups I no longer participate actively in.
[16:46] <jbicha> doko: no :(
[16:50] <jokerdino> ah, nice to see people active on a weekend.
[16:50]  * jokerdino prods infinity.
[16:51] <jokerdino> got some time for a FFe?
[16:51] <jokerdino> bug #1165141
[16:51] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1165141 in unity-tweak-tool (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please sync unity-tweak-tool 0.0.4 from upstream git" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1165141
[16:56] <infinity> jokerdino: The changelog seems reasonable, but can I see a debdiff?
[16:56] <jokerdino> sure. how do i get one?
[16:56] <jokerdino> wait, ubuntu wiki-ing it
[16:56] <infinity> jokerdino: debdiff old.dsc new.dsc | pastebinit -f diff
[16:56] <jokerdino> thank you. give me a minute.
[17:11] <jokerdino> infinity: thanks for your time. here's the link has size 0 instead of expected 339394
[17:11] <jokerdino> oops, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5683530/
[17:12] <jokerdino> hm, renaming glade files wasn't a great idea.
[17:15] <infinity> Heh, does make it remarkably hard to audit, yet. :)
[17:15] <infinity> s/yet/yes/
[17:15] <jokerdino> renaming glade files + 8 pot files.
[17:16] <jokerdino> makes me dizzy with 30k diff file D:
[17:16] <infinity> Yeah.  The actual code changes are fairly obvious, though.
[17:16] <infinity> Go ahead and upload.
[17:16] <jokerdino> So, I subscribe the ubuntu-sponsors now? Thanks!
[17:17] <infinity> jokerdino: Yeah.
[17:18] <jokerdino> infinity: thanks for your time reviewing. will subscribe the team now. :)
[17:18] <iulian> cjwatson: Re: haskell. I see no reason why you shouldn't. The haskell group needs more love from more people.
[17:20] <infinity> iulian: Couldn't we all just join upstream and subtly sabotage Haskell until people switch languages out of frustration?
[17:20] <iulian> You can just ask nomeata to add you to the group next time you see him on IRC or just click the appropriate buttons on alioth and he'll add you.
[17:20] <iulian> infinity: Doubt it. ;)
[17:20] <infinity> It was worth a shot.
[17:23] <infinity> jokerdino: Can you commit this to git: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5683570/
[17:23] <infinity> jokerdino: And then I'll pull and sponsor that for you.
[17:23] <jokerdino> oh sure.
[17:23] <infinity> (And you can tag on that commit)
[17:23] <jokerdino> yes :)
[17:27] <jokerdino> infinity: done and thanks much!
[17:33] <infinity> jokerdino: Uploaded, tag away.
[17:38] <jokerdino> infinity: thank you. tagged it :)
[17:44] <jokerdino> on an other note, it won't be of too much bother if i request for backport of unity-tweak-tool to quantal?
[17:46] <infinity> jokerdino: You'd want to talk to ScottK about that, I don't do backports.
[17:47] <jokerdino> right. thanks. i was wondering about any implication on a new package.
[17:47] <ScottK> New packages are fine.
[17:47] <ScottK> They are, in fact, the safest things to backport.
[17:47] <jokerdino> oh hi there ScottK.
[17:47] <jokerdino> I'll prepare the paperwork on backport request then.
[17:48] <ScottK> OK.
[17:48] <jokerdino> thanks both of you.
[17:49] <jokerdino> one small note. do i need to update the debian/changelog for a quantal release?
[17:49] <infinity> If the current raring package builds on Q cleanly, you don't need to change anything, automated magic does it all for you.
[17:50] <jokerdino> yeah, it builds fine in our PPA on both Q and Raring.
[17:50] <infinity> (And runs properly on Q as well?)
[17:50] <jokerdino> yep
[17:50] <infinity> Right, then there's not much to do except request a backport.
[17:51] <jokerdino> Great. Awesome. I'll read up on backport process and file a bug by Sunday night.
[17:51] <jokerdino> thanks again. And how's the weekend? :)
[17:52] <infinity> jokerdino: I suspect requestbackport(1) does all the work for you.
[17:53] <jokerdino> oh i see. interesting.
[17:53] <jokerdino> saves me some time then.
[18:05] <Laney> cjwatson: I'm sure we'd be delighted to have more people on board. The packaging side is pretty easy too. :-)
[18:05] <Laney> Check out Kinnison's "Adventures in Haskell" videos on youtube if you're interested in learning a bit of the language too - they go fairly deep
[18:14] <iulian> The text Real World Haskell is pretty nice too.
[19:12] <jbicha> are the daily image builds supposed to be running again?
[19:57] <infinity> jbicha: Probably, yes.  I'll go turn 'em back on.
[19:59] <infinity> jbicha: Fixed.
[21:47] <phillw> infinity: cjwatson any idea when the cron will be turned back on for the dailies?
[21:54] <cjwatson> 20:57 <infinity> jbicha: Probably, yes.  I'll go turn 'em back on.
[21:54] <cjwatson> 20:59 <infinity> jbicha: Fixed.
[21:54] <cjwatson> I think probably about two hours ago
[22:11] <phillw> cjwatson: thanks, so no dailies for my session tomorrow on testing / QA :) Not to worry, I'll "blag" it and blame it on the amount of things in the queue that needed processing before they were turned back on :P
[22:11] <cjwatson> I'll run a build for you now
[22:12] <cjwatson> running; it'll appear at some point
[22:13] <phillw> cjwatson: it's a ubuntu session, but that will work fine as all I'm dong is running through in person the stuff on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom Having something to teach zsync up, would be helpful. Many thanks.
[22:14] <cjwatson> oh, I started a Lubuntu build assuming that's what you wanted
[22:14] <cjwatson> there'll be an Ubuntu desktop build tomorrow morning though
[22:14] <phillw> cjwatson: I'm going to use lubuntu anyways, so you are correct :)
[22:16] <phillw> But, I will be taking questions during the day after my presentation, so being able to let them know that the other dailies will be arriving will be helpful. They can 'grab' the beta-2 and then use zsync to update when the daily re-appears :)
[22:30] <phillw> I'll grab the beta2 of ubuntu-amd64 for anyone who wants to get that via usb device.


[12:31] <cyberalex4life> Hello!
[12:31] <cyberalex4life> does anyone know how to read/write/change config file values from command line?
[12:36] <jussi> cyberalex4life: more a question for #ubuntu
[12:36] <jussi> but
[12:37] <jussi> sudo nano /path/to/config.file
[12:37] <jussi> will give you a cli editor with the config file. you may or may not need the sudo part
[12:37] <jussi> cyberalex4life: which config file are you thinking of changing?


[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[07:31] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[07:31] <dholbach> hi kul
[07:31] <dholbach> hi iulian
[07:32] <iulian> I know I'm cool. :)
[07:33] <dholbach> haha
[07:33] <dholbach> it seems I need a coffee :)
[07:33] <iulian> Nah, you're fine. :)
[07:33]  * iulian likes when people call him cool.
[07:34]  * dholbach hugs iulian
[07:34]  * iulian hugs back.
[07:34]  * iulian off to uni.
[08:30] <geser> bdrung: Hi, did pyhunspell sat that long in the Ubuntu NEW queue that the sync was faster than the direct upload?
[08:36] <cjwatson> geser: The irony is that if it hadn't been parallel-uploaded to Ubuntu NEW then it would have gone straight through when it was accepted in Debian.
[08:40] <geser> cjwatson: right now pyhunspell 0.1-1 is in saucy but 0.1-0ubuntu1 is stuck in saucy-proposed as it's older (UPLOAD_FAIL)
[08:41] <cjwatson> geser: oh, that's on the todo in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html (URL notwithstanding) for me to look at and clear up
[10:00] <bdrung> geser: yes
[10:02] <bdrung> cjwatson: i did the Ubuntu upload, because I wasn't sure if pyhunspell gets through Debian NEW before the Ubuntu feature freeze.
[10:07] <bdrung> sorry for creating such a mess.
[10:13] <cjwatson> bdrung,geser: I've cleared it up now, anyway
[10:32] <bdrung> cjwatson: thanks


[20:22] <zykotick9> TBotNik: and i don't personally visit it when people paste there...
[20:22] <ikonia> paulcoyote: do you know how to do it ?
[20:22] <JWommack> Does anyone know of a good twitter client that gives background notifications and isn't the unity webapp that works in 14.04?
[20:22] <coderman1> Busserl: they are on the same lan....cant figure out why the difference in speed thnough
[20:23] <TBotNik> zykotick9: Why not a PB is a PB and I personally like it better than all the others, much easier to use and personally been using it for over 10 years!
[20:23] <lucasflite> Hola acabo de actualizar el software de xubuntu de mi compu pero no se como activar de nuevo en la barra de tareas el icono de los wireles
[20:23] <zykotick9> newbieZombi: and TBotNik this is debian's pastebin.com factoid:  pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads.  Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/
[20:23] <paulcoyote> ikonia no, don't know how
[20:23] <lucasflite> como activo los repositorios de xubuntu?
[20:23] <ikonia> so sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda2
[20:23] <ikonia> paulcoyote: that will give you the alternative superblocks
[20:24] <chuck_> question, i use mysms as my messaging app on android and did find that they atleast built a version for ubuntu 13.04 at some point. will that work on 14.04?
[20:24] <Busserl> coderman1: vm to host is also <1ms for me, could be  a lot of things I guess. Try a different guest maybe
[20:24] <ikonia> then fsck -b (superblock number) /dev/sda2
[20:24] <Jeffrey_f> newbieZombi: does that answer your question?
[20:24] <ikonia> chuck_: I doubt it, but it depends
[20:24] <newbieZombi> no
[20:24] <chuck_> here is the command i found: sudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/mysms/xUbuntu_13.04/ /' >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mysms.list"
[20:24] <TBotNik> zykotick9: Never had even one issue with it.  I think the privacy for code you want to mark that way is better than the other.
[20:25] <ikonia> chuck_: I advise very strong against that
[20:25] <Jeffrey_f> newbieZombi: what are you confused about
[20:25] <newbieZombi> I need to explain a problem I have.
[20:25] <newbieZombi> creating a web application
[20:25] <newbieZombi> my application
[20:26] <chuck_> okay thanks for answering
[20:26] <Jeffrey_f> newbieZombi: put it in a single line if you can
[20:26] <Pici> newbieZombi: You need PHP programming help?
[20:26] <paulcoyote> ikonia keep telling me 'bad magic number' , trying all the numbers
[20:26] <ikonia> paulcoyote: maybe out of luck
[20:27] <TBotNik> newbieZombi: So your org Q on mysql; you need to install 2 tools to work with it well. 1.) phpMyAdmin and 2.) MySQL Workbench.  Get those installed and you will find MySQL easy!
[20:27] <Pici> newbieZombi: We can only help with OS issues here. If you need help programming PHP then you probably need to ask ##php.
[20:27] <ikonia> newbieZombi: or learn them properly wihtout using tools like phpyadmin and other security holes
[20:27] <paulcoyote> new message: superblock has an invalid journal inode 8 - cleay y/n
[20:27] <paulcoyote> ikonia new message: superblock has an invalid journal inode 8 - cleay y/n
[20:27] <ikonia> paulcoyote: ooh "y" you maybe lucky
[20:28] <ikonia> paulcoyote: I doubt it, but that's not bad to clear a dead inode
[20:28] <coderman1> Busserl: this isnt from host=>guest. its a guest on another server
[20:28] <newbieZombi> I am creating an application for making quotes.  Quotes can be don in two ways 1-be per item(items are added one by one to the webpage) 2-be bay assembling items.  I can't realize the assebling table
[20:28] <paulcoyote> ikonia yes to all then...
[20:28] <ikonia> paulcoyote: yeah, invalid inode pointers, clear them
[20:29] <paulcoyote> lucasflite sigues aca?
[20:29] <TBotNik> newbieZombi: Always assign your SQL string to a var, then run an "echo" statement before the code executes.  If it errors, cut-n-paste it into the "Query" window of either and find the error in you code that way!
[20:29] <Busserl> coderman1: I've basically never seen pings above 1ms in my lan, regardless of type, vm or not. I doubt this is normal behaviour.
[20:29] <paulcoyote> ikonia ok... yes yes yes... fix it... delete inode... fix yes
[20:29] <ikonia> paulcoyote: you got it
[20:30] <Busserl> coderman1: I have no idea what could cause this, maybe a virt driver problem, host problem, sorry.
[20:30] <paulcoyote> Directory inode 26476660, block #0, offset 0: directory corrupted Salvage<y>?  yes
[20:30] <ikonia> paulcoyote: "yes"
[20:31] <Busserl> coderman1: You could start to troubleshoot your LAN first, I'd guess.
[20:31] <paulcoyote> hundreds of yes... yes yes yes
[20:32] <ikonia> paulcoyote: have faith and be lucky
[20:32] <paulcoyote> ikonia 'your lack of faith will be your perdition...' yes yes yes yes connect lost found yes...
[20:33] <ikonia> paulcoyote: thats good if it's got some data in lost+found
[20:33] <ikonia> paulcoyote: that's a ray of hope
[20:34] <paulcoyote> ikonia hope is not the light at the end of the tunnel
[20:36] <paulcoyote> ikonia: thousands of numbers start to flood the terminal after the last 'connect lost and found' >*
[20:37] <ikonia> paulcoyote: this sounds good
[20:37] <paulcoyote> ikonia looks like wopr playing tic tac toe
[20:37] <paulcoyote> ok, back to normal
[20:38] <patarr> anyone here experience issues with a third display on ubuntu 14.04?
[20:38] <patarr> dual GPU
[20:38] <patarr> Nvidia
[20:39] <paulcoyote> more wopr like numbers...
[20:42] <paulcoyote> ikonia Done.  *** journal has been re-created - filesystem is now ext3 again ***  /dev/sda2: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** /dev/sda2: 195140/28565504 files (0.4% non-contiguous), 36646399/114232832 blocks
[20:42] <ikonia> paulcoyote: great news
[20:42] <ikonia> paulcoyote: well done
[20:42] <jeffreylevesque> I created a bootable usb drive that doesn't load at startup
[20:42] <paulcoyote> thanks to you ikonia!
[20:42] <jeffreylevesque> could someone assist me?
[20:43] <paulcoyote> will make a backup and a fresh install
[20:43] <ikonia> paulcoyote: good work
[20:43] <ikonia> paulcoyote: no need for a fresh install
[20:43] <ikonia> paulcoyote: you should be fine now
[20:43] <paulcoyote> pressing Y key is a vitch
[20:43] <ikonia> paulcoyote: run fsck from a livecd/media against your partitions
[20:43] <ikonia> paulcoyote: at that point you can be confident your fine
[20:44] <paulcoyote> ikonia will try to run fsck... please don't leave without me
[20:44] <ikonia> paulcoyote: do it from live media
[20:45] <paulcoyote> ikonia ok
[20:46] <paulcoyote> ikonia need to reboot, brb
[20:50] <joseph_> Do people just do nothing on IRC?
[20:50] <daftykins> joseph_: occasionally i respond to questions, to!
[20:50] <Pici> joseph_: sometimes.  This channel is just for support, so the people here may be actually active elsewhere.  We have #ubuntu-offtopic here for non-support conversations.
[20:50] <daftykins> too. stupid broken keyboard
[20:51] <joseph_> Understood, thanks
[20:51] <t4nk105> hey all :)
[20:51] <patarr> anyone at all running triple head on 14.04?
[20:52] <paulcoyote> ikonia bad news
[20:53] <ikonia> paulcoyote: no
[20:53] <paulcoyote> ikonia can see the disk but is empty, just a lost and found folder
[20:54] <ikonia> paulcoyote: that's bad
[20:54] <paulcoyote> ikonia the 'properties' tab shows 142 gb used but the folders are gone
[20:54] <ikonia> paulcoyote: I'm sorry
[20:54] <ikonia> paulcoyote: what's in lost+found
[20:54] <ikonia> (size wise, ignore the content)
[20:55] <t4nk105> i seem to have a problem with x11vnc, whenever i try to connect to it from another LAN host i get "webSocketsHandshake: invalid client header"
[20:55] <t4nk105> any idea on how to solve this?
[20:56] <t4nk105> im so stumped, i have an ubuntu 14 client on an esxi host and cannot remote desktop into it. I spent two days and various tutorials but with no avail :(
[20:56] <paulcoyote> ikonia lost found says 0 items
[20:56] <ikonia> paulcoyote: do "du -hs" in lost+found
[20:56] <Loshki> t4nk105: which client?
[20:57] <daftykins> t4nk105: what client are you using?
[20:57] <t4nk105> x11vnc
[20:57] <Loshki> t4nk105: no, x11vnc is the *server*. What about the client?
[20:57] <cristian_c> Hi
[20:57] <daftykins> hi
[20:57] <cristian_c> I've installed lamp with tasksel
[20:57] <t4nk105> ah my apologies, jump on mac os x and microsoft RDP on mac
[20:58] <cdavis> Why is udev doing this? "systemd-udevd[185]: renamed network interface eth3 to p55p4"
[20:58] <cristian_c> How can I set the security password as I could do in xampp?
[20:58] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[20:58] <compdoc> cdavis, heh. I hate that. You can turn it off
[20:58] <ikonia> don't use xampp
[20:58] <ikonia> is the real nswer
[20:58] <ikonia> answer
[20:58] <paulcoyote> du -hs is taking its time....
[20:58] <ikonia> paulcoyote: that's ok
[20:58] <cdavis> compdoc: how?
[20:58] <cristian_c> ikonia, I don'use xampp
[20:59] <paulcoyote> result 133G
[20:59] <cdavis> compdoc: I really prefer eth3, eth4 :)
[20:59] <majortom> hello
[20:59] <ikonia> cristian_c: so what password are you trying to set
[20:59] <t4nk105> may i post a tutorial that i used?
[20:59] <ikonia> t4nk105: for who ?
[20:59] <cristian_c> ikonia, I must set the security for the lamp components
[21:00] <compdoc> http://pastebin.com/TdBhSSAL
[21:00] <ikonia> cristian_c: what's not secure
[21:00] <paulcoyote> ikonia du -hs result: 133 G
[21:00] <ikonia> paulcoyote: ok - so it's it's in there
[21:01] <ikonia> paulcoyote: now.....depending on why / how it's been put in there will determain how to get it out
[21:01] <t4nk105> im not sure anyone willing to see the steps i followed? xD
[21:01] <ikonia> t4nk105: who do you want to post this for ?
[21:02] <t4nk105> to show you the steps i followed
[21:02] <cristian_c> ikonia, password for mysql and proftpd are not set, phpmyadmin is accessible via network
[21:03] <ikonia> cristian_c: mysql is set, you can change/add to it with mysqladmin, 2.) proftp is nothing to do with lamp 3.) phpmyadmin is nothing to do with lamp, and it's a web application, so it will be accessible on a network by design
[21:03] <t4nk105> i just would like to remote into my current ubuntu session, its a lot easier to set up in windows and mac but with an ubuntu 14 vm, I've been bashing my head trying to get it to work xD
[21:03] <paulcoyote> ikonia somewhere under the rainbow... do I have to use something like extundelete?
[21:03] <ikonia> paulcoyote: I don't see why you would at the moment
[21:04] <paulcoyote> ikonia how do I get something back? please enlight me
[21:04] <ikonia> paulcoyote: it depends on how/why it's been dumped into there
[21:04] <ikonia> paulcoyote: looking at what you'd told me - I'd guess it's all the orphaned inodes being put into lost and found,
[21:05] <ikonia> (sorry thats a bad explination)
[21:05] <paulcoyote> ikonia o_O my face
[21:05] <compdoc> cdavis, did you see?
[21:05] <cristian_c> ikonia, so, are proftpd and phpmyadmin included only in xampp?
[21:05] <ikonia> the idnoes are orphaned so the OS doesn't know where to put the files, so they go into lost+found
[21:05] <ikonia> paulcoyote: check this http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/09/how-to-recover-files-from-lostfound-after-fsck-in-linux-how-i-did-it-in-ubuntu/
[21:05] <paulcoyote> ikonia gotta read
[21:05] <ikonia> cristian_c: no idea, one is an ftp server, one is a php gui for managing mysql
[21:05] <t4nk105> this is the tutorial i used: http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=5439, when i run x11vnc and try to connect to it from a mac (jump or microsoft RDP client i get the following error: webSocket Handshake: incomplete client header error
[21:06] <Kai120> Holaaaaaaa
[21:06] <ikonia> cristian_c: both are something you probably shouldn't be using
[21:06] <Kai120> alguien habla español???
[21:06] <ikonia> t4nk105: why are you pasting this ? who has asked for it
[21:06] <mmorey> who would like to help me with my first problem report?
[21:06] <ikonia> !es | Kai120
[21:06] <Kai120> !es
[21:06] <Kai120> ok
[21:06] <Kai120> thanks you
[21:06] <Kai120> !es | Kai120
[21:06] <t4nk105> ikonia: I'm asking for help, thats why i posted.
[21:06] <ikonia> t4nk105: oh, I see you want help executing it
[21:07] <cristian_c> ikonia, I say when installing xampp
[21:07] <ikonia> t4nk105: that guide looks terrible
[21:07] <t4nk105> ikonia, i did all the steps and executed them, but when i try to connect to my ubuntu vm it doesn't work. I ran x11vnc in ubuntu to see what was happening and get this error: webSocket Handshake: incomplete client header error
[21:08] <cristian_c> ikonia, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223410
[21:08] <Kai120> _
[21:08] <ikonia> t4nk105: that looks like it's installing mate and various other things as well as random 3rd party software
[21:08] <ikonia> cristian_c: why are you showing me this ?
[21:08] <t4nk105> well do you have a better one? i can't find a simple way to remote into ubuntu 14 running in a VM
[21:08] <ikonia> t4nk105: there are standard VNC servers for example in the main ubuntu repos
[21:08] <t4nk105> such as?
[21:09] <ikonia> tinyvnc, tigervnc
[21:09] <ikonia> 2 off the top of my head
[21:09] <ikonia> search the ubuntu repos
[21:09] <ikonia> however your repo list will now be corrupted
[21:09] <t4nk105> how so?
[21:09] <ikonia> t4nk105: because you've installed 3rd party repos and packages
[21:10] <DF3D2> anyone else have crazy pixelation on VLC media player whenver using AMD binary drivers?
[21:10] <cristian_c> ikonia, <ikonia> cristian_c: no idea, one is an ftp server, one is a php gui for managing mysql
[21:10] <ikonia> cristian_c: I know this, I told you
[21:11] <cristian_c> 'WARNING - SECURITY' section
[21:11] <ikonia> cristian_c: what ?
[21:11] <Loshki> t4nk105: Try a different client: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10264801/why-is-the-handshake-failing
[21:11] <cristian_c> in the topic I've linket to
[21:11] <cristian_c> *linked
[21:11] <ikonia> cristian_c: why are you linking to that ?
[21:11] <t4nk105> ikonia: so how do i fix this? fresh install?
[21:11] <jeffreylevesque> My machine is trying to boot into ubuntu (fails).  It's originally a windows machine.  During machine startup, if I press `esc` and try to boot Windows, it fails.  Should I make a bootable flash for windows, or ubuntu?
[21:12] <cristian_c> ikonia, it shows a section named 'WARNING - SECURITY'
[21:12] <ikonia> cristian_c: are you using xmmp
[21:12] <ikonia> cristian_c: yes/no
[21:13] <cristian_c> 'Open holes:' etc...
[21:13] <ikonia> cristian_c: yes/no
[21:13] <ikonia> cristian_c: are you using xammp yes/no
[21:13] <shaddowed> install ubuntu now or wait till tommorow 14.04.1 is released?
[21:13] <cristian_c> ikonia, no, but I've already told this
[21:13] <Busserl> jeffreylevesque: you could try to reinstall grub from ubuntu live. If you used a windows install disk, that could only make windows boot again, it would not care about ubuntu boot.
[21:13] <t4nk105> ikonia: I'm freaked out lol, do i just wipe the VM and reinstall ubuntu?
[21:13] <blacks0ul> Hi I am having issues with apt proxy. I receive *503  Unable to download in offline mode*
[21:13] <cristian_c> 'This doesn't leave your whole system wide open, but someone could hack your XAMPP installation, so be wary. To fix most of the security weaknesses open a terminal and run: '
[21:13] <ikonia> cristian_c: ok - so "no" so why are you linking to a forum post about security issues with xammp when you are not using it
[21:13] <k1l_> shaddowed: install now. when running the regular updates you become 14.04.1 automatically
[21:13] <ikonia> cristian_c: you're not using xammp - so why do you care
[21:13] <Bashing-om> jeffreylevesque: We work best from ubuntu, to look at what is going on -> create a ubuntu liveDVD.
[21:14] <jeffreylevesque> Busserl, I don't have a windows install disc
[21:14] <SchrodingersScat> there's a 14.04.1 now?
[21:14] <cristian_c> ikonia, because, as I've told before, you've told: '<ikonia> cristian_c: no idea, one is an ftp server, one is a php gui for managing mysql'
[21:14] <k1l_> SchrodingersScat: its called point release. that is for LTS versions.
[21:14] <ikonia> cristian_c: you're not using them - you're not using xammp
[21:14] <Endrius> t4nk105: If you are using virtualbox, then it has build-in rdp support
[21:15] <ikonia> cristian_c: so stop trying to patch holes for xammp when you are not using xammp
[21:15] <Busserl> jeffreylevesque: That disc could only make windows boot again, if you wanted dual boot, then try reinstalling grub from ubuntu live disk. I think there are free windows install disks on microsofts website btw.
[21:15] <Busserl> *microsoft's
[21:15] <t4nk105> I'm using an esxi server, but what do i do to vnc into the machine on that box? also is a fresh reinstall necessary?
[21:15] <anonymous__> hi
[21:16] <jeffreylevesque> I only have access to OSX right now.  Can I make an Ubuntu Live on this system?
[21:16] <cristian_c> ikonia, yes, but I've asked: '<cristian_c> ikonia, so, are proftpd and phpmyadmin included only in xampp?'
[21:16] <ikonia> cristian_c: you can install them if you want to
[21:16] <ikonia> cristian_c: but as I told you - they are nothing to do with lamp
[21:17] <cdavis> compdoc: no, I didn't see how to do it
[21:17] <compdoc> http://pastebin.com/TdBhSSAL
[21:17] <t4nk105> im not sure does esxi have tools to remote into ubuntu?
[21:17] <cristian_c> ikonia, or in other suites similar to xampp?
[21:17] <compdoc> cdavis ^
[21:17] <ikonia> cristian_c: it is nothing to do with lamp
[21:17] <sheap> halp :(? http://askubuntu.com/questions/501678/tasksel-error-in-14-04-preseed
[21:17] <ikonia> cristian_c: you are not using xampp so forget about xampp
[21:18] <cdavis> compdoc: thanks
[21:18] <cristian_c> ikonia, but it contains apache and mysql, and etc...
[21:18] <cristian_c> *the suite
[21:18] <ikonia> cristian_c: LAMP = Linux, Apahe, Mysql, PHP
[21:18] <ikonia> cristian_c: nothing more
[21:18] <k1l_> cristian_c: did you install the all-in-one package from a website?
[21:19] <cristian_c> k1l_, I've installed them with tasksel, but I've problems with configuring them
[21:20] <cristian_c> and I've read the ubuntu wiki
[21:20] <k1l_> ok, so dont follow howtos that talk about the all-in-one package. since that is a different setup.
[21:20] <cristian_c> k1l_, I follow the wiki
[21:21] <Person> Hello there. My question is probably a derp and easy one so I apologize. I want to test Unbuntu before actually installing it and I downloaded the ISO file in my USB stick (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install). While starting my computer I pressed F12 and choose "USB [something]", but I got the message "No OS found" or something like that.
[21:21] <sheap> where does tasksel take input? from who? when?
[21:21] <cristian_c> ikonia, but I don't find answers for my question
[21:21] <ikonia> cristian_c: what question?
[21:21] <cristian_c> lol
[21:22] <Busserl> Person: try a tool like unetbootin
[21:22] <k1l_> cristian_c: so what is your question?
[21:22] <Person> I'll look for it. Thank yiou very much.
 ikonia, yes, but I've asked: '<cristian_c> ikonia, so, are proftpd and phpmyadmin included only in xampp?'
[21:22] <cristian_c> I don't know this
[21:22] <Busserl> Person: try different tools until one works, usb boot can be "special"
[21:22] <ikonia> cristian_c: you are using xampp - it doesn't matter
 ikonia, or in other suites similar to xampp?
[21:22] <ikonia> cristian_c: ask the people who make the xammp package what they put it it
[21:23] <DF3D2> anyone else have crazy pixelation on VLC media player whenver using AMD binary drivers?
[21:23] <k1l_> cristian_c: if you need that install the ubuntu package from the official ubuntu repo
[21:23] <ned98> DF3D2: here too
[21:23] <DF3D2> anyone else have crazy pixelation on VLC media player whenver using AMD binary drivers? Basically, if I uninstall the AMD binary drivers the problem goes away. I have no idea if it is a problem w/ ubuntu, AMD, or VLC. I have had this issue plenty of times. I "fixed it once" but upon upgrading to 14.10 it came back.
[21:23] <ikonia> cristian_c: you have installed LAMP, that means "Linux, Apache, Mysql, PHP" is on your system - nothing else
[21:23] <ikonia> cristian_c: if you want to manually install additional packages - that is up to you
[21:23] <DF3D2> ned98: Yeah, I'm using Gnome Mplayer now w/ the AMD drivers and it works perfectly fine.
[21:24] <cristian_c> k1l_, it's not present in the ubuntu repos
[21:24] <ikonia> xammp
[21:24] <DF3D2> guess I'll kiss VLC good bye
[21:24] <ikonia> xammp is not in the ubuntu repos - it's junk
[21:24] <k1l_> cristian_c: what is not present?
[21:24] <cristian_c> k1l_, it's installed via a .run
[21:24] <cristian_c> k1l_, xampp
[21:24] <ned98> DF3D2: i think i fixed the problem by fiddling around with vlc settings - not sure, i'm now running Arch
[21:25] <axp882> ikonia i switched clients, nick was t4nk
[21:25] <k1l_> cristian_c: xampp is a bunch of garbage. if you want that go and annoy the xampp support. we dont support that in here and have told you now 10000 times
[21:25] <axp882> any idea if i can fix the repos or should i just do a fresh install?
[21:25] <ned98> nginx rocks
[21:25] <k1l_> cristian_c: if you want to install a webserver, mysql, php etc etc etc install the packages
[21:25] <cristian_c> k1l_, but I've not installed xampp
[21:25] <k1l_> cristian_c: that stop talkin about that
[21:25] <DF3D2> ned98: i'VE tried with GPU acceleration On and OFF. Neither seems to help
[21:26] <ikonia> cristian_c: right - so stop trying to fix/setup xammp
[21:26] <k1l_> just forget it
[21:26] <cristian_c> k1l_, I've found the configuration related to xampp, instead
[21:26] <JWommack> ...
[21:26] <k1l_> there is no need for "what if xampp" if you dont use xampp at all
[21:26] <cristian_c> that's more different
[21:26] <Busserl> cristian_c: think about apache, mysql and php
[21:26] <ned98> DF3D2: hmm... what version of the driver are you using? Installed thru the drivers control panel?
[21:27] <cristian_c> ikonia, uhm ,I'm not trying to fix/setup xampp
[21:27] <k1l_> so either you are lying to us, or you are thinking in the wrong direction. we told you to stop thinking in the wrong direction and want to help you.
[21:27] <ikonia> cristian_c: you are - you're using a webpage that explains securiy holes for xampp, and fix them
[21:27] <ikonia> cristian_c: you're not using xampp, so stop referencing it
[21:27] <JWommack> Cristian_c, is what you are trying to do is to use proftpd and phpmyadmin?
[21:27] <DF3D2> ned98: newest AMD binary driver. Installed it manually
[21:28] <ikonia> JWommack: no, he's not even installed them
[21:28] <ikonia> JWommack: but he's trying to "fix them"
[21:28] <k1l_> cristian_c: xampp is insecure by default. if you go the proper ubuntu way you dont need to fix that because its a different setup
[21:29] <DF3D2> ned98: Like I said, I've had this issue plenty of times. I remember even having it w/ an NVidia card back in the day. I think maybe VLC is just crappy anymore?
[21:29] <DF3D2> cause Gnome Mplayer seems to have no issue
[21:29] <ned98> DF3D2: i had problem with the manually installed binary too
[21:29] <JWommack> Ikonia: part of it sounds like he's trying to find out why they're in xampp but not in whatever he set up, I'm guessing he doesn't realize that xampp is both a amp install and a number of packages that run on amp installs, but I can't see his original question.
[21:30] <ned98> DF3D2: AMD installer was very buggy and performed like shit, but the driver from the control panel worked almost flawlessly
[21:30] <JWommack> but that's just what it reads like from what I can see
[21:30] <k1l_> JWommack: basically he is following a howto secure xampp that is unnecessary for not xampp package installs.
[21:30] <DF3D2> ned98: I think i'll take the path of least resistance: and just use Mplayer. VLC doesn;t have any specific features I need. Very odd about the manually installed Binary driver performing any differently though.
[21:31] <ned98> DF3D2: yeah, strange thing... But who knows with video drivers!
[21:31] <cristian__c> k1l_, but you've told me: '<k1l_> cristian_c: if you need that install the ubuntu package from the official ubuntu repo'
[21:32] <JWommack> If that's the ubuntuforums link then why not just explain that the user information is different based on how you're installing it and what you've set up
[21:32] <k1l_> cristian__c: stop
[21:32] <DF3D2> ned98: Yeah, I have all kinds of issues with AMD drivers on windows also. I'm running an Xfire 290x setup that can be a pain the arse at times.
[21:32] <cristian__c> k1l_, can you explain me?
[21:32] <ned98> DF3D2: windows has buggy printers, we have buggy video drivers and sometimes buggy wireless ones hahahaha
[21:32]  * JWommack will go back to mostly working on stuff now and stop interjecting
[21:32] <k1l_> cristian__c: if you did not install that xampp package.run thing. then you dont need to think about xampp.
[21:33] <DF3D2> ned98: don't get me started on my Hp printer w/ windows 8.1 half the time I have to reboot the printer to get it to print ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[21:33] <k1l_> cristian__c: if you follow a "howto secure xampp" you are following a bike repair tutorial for a car repair. you are just wrong from the start.
[21:33] <k1l_> cristian__c: so what is your real question?
[21:33] <ned98> DF3D2: omg windows 8.1!  I'm soo sorry about that... Hahahaha
[21:33] <cristian__c> k1l_, it answers to : <k1l_> cristian_c: that stop talkin about that'
[21:34] <cristian__c> k1l_, and I said that I've to configure the security of lamp
[21:35] <DF3D2> ned98 But Anyway it's probably one msg before they tell us we are off topic: So back to the linux problem. Have you found arch works better w/ AMD drivers and VLC? I'm curious if it is an AMD, VLC, or Ubuntu problem. I feel it is some combination of the three that causes the issue. Maybe that is why Mplayer doesn't have the issue as it uses some different back end to decode videos ?
[21:36] <ned98> DF3D2: well, since you "build" Arch from scratch you're sure that everything works as expected, so no big problems so far - there are specific packages in the AUR, which is awesome
[21:36] <k1l_> cristian__c: you can configure your lamp install (which is the apache, mysql, php,... packages from the ubunut repo) but that is different to the xampp how to since that xampp package has a lot of security issues because they just dont mind security at all.
[21:36] <cristian__c> k1l_, and the ubuntu resources talk about lamp installed with xampp and not with tasksel, so here the reason
[21:36] <k1l_> cristian__c: so the problems you want to fix dont mean to be in the ubuntu packages. so stop running behind that xampp how to
[21:37] <paulcoyote> ikonia I got it! find under lost and found the home directory, copying right now
[21:37] <DF3D2> ned98: I just don't have time to build everything from scratch haha. Also if I started building everything from scratch I'd feel the need to upgrade my old I3 machine that I run linux on. An unneeded expense really.
[21:37] <svm_invictvs> For the life of me I can't figure out how to add services to the default runlevel on ubuntu
[21:37] <svm_invictvs> update-rc.d corret?
[21:37] <k1l_> cristian__c: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223410 that one?
[21:38] <cristian__c> k1l_, ok, so, if I install lamp-server with tasksel, have I got no security risks, then?
[21:38] <ned98> DF3D2: with building i'm obviously talking about the OS :P
 cristian__c: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223410 that one?
[21:38] <DF3D2> ned98: no, I know. You mean compiling from scratch. I was inferring that if I had to wait for compiles to finish I'd feel the need to ugprade to a newer processor on that rig :-)
[21:38] <ned98> DF3D2: you'd be surprised, Arch can be set up in minutes if you know your way - no bloat and 100% compatibility with you system - graphics included
[21:38] <cristian__c> k1l_, yeah, and also the ubuntu locoteam wiki page
[21:39] <k1l_> cristian__c: did you read that big WARNING sign? "WARNING
[21:39] <k1l_> This guide is aimed at a development environment only and should not be used as a public webserver. To setup a public webserver follow the directions on the Ubuntu wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP"
[21:39] <cristian__c> k1l_, yeah, that section
[21:39] <k1l_> cristian__c: close that forums thread and never open it again
[21:39] <cristian__c>  This guide is aimed at a development environment only and should not be used as a public webserver. To setup a public webserver follow the directions on the Ubuntu wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[21:39] <cristian__c> ok
[21:40] <k1l_> this whol thread is about that bunch of xampp package we told you not to use or think about.
[21:40] <ned98> DF3D2: convert to Arch >:) ahahahahaha
[21:40] <DF3D2> ned98: I use Freebsd on a web server I run. I hate having to compile everything haha.
[21:41] <k1l_> cristian__c: that thread has nothing to do with a tasksel lamp installation.
[21:41] <cristian__c> k1l_, but essentially I've to install a software (named kalkun) that requires a web server (with apache, mysql, etc...)
[21:42] <cristian__c> k1l_, I've followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[21:42] <blacks0ul> Hi I am having issues with apt-cacher-ng
[21:42] <ned98> DF3D2, freebsd is kinda evil - my NAS is based on that
[21:42] <k1l_> cristian__c: follow that site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[21:42] <blacks0ul> I see<PHONE_NUMBER>|O|381|<IP_ADDRESS>|uburep/pool/universe/d/dnsmasq/dnsmasq_2.59-4ubuntu0.1_all.deb from the logs .. but the client side .. I am receiving 503 error
[21:42] <ned98> DF3D2, gotta go sleep, here's late...
[21:42] <ned98> bye everyone!
[21:43] <DF3D2> later
[21:45] <bjrohan> Hello, I did a fresh install of 14.04 on a dell latitude D520 (old computer, had xp on it). When I originally booted the liveUSB, it connected to the net via the ethernet connection. I then chose to install ubuntu. Now, it says that there are no network devices available, no ethernet, or wifi. The system has a Broadcom wlan card, and obviously a working ethernet (wifi worked when xp was installed)
[21:47] <cristian__c> k1l_, regarding the installation, I've done this nevertheless, but regarding the  configuration, are there no problems with security? Can I go over and use these software?
[21:48] <daftykins> bjrohan: i'm familiar with the 505s, if it had XP - you'd have been better going with xubuntu or lubuntu
[21:48] <k1l_> as a admin it is your responsibility to take care of that. there is no 100% secure software. but if you follow the security notes from the software you use and install the updates/patches you are on the good run
[21:49] <cristian__c> k1l_, I was referring to lamp
[21:49] <bjrohan> daftykins: I just did the install, no problem switching :-)
[21:50] <k1l_> cristian__c: the security depends on the configuration etc. you need to keep an eye on that yourself
[21:50] <daftykins> bjrohan: does it have 1GB RAM?
[21:50] <cristian__c> 'After installing MySQL' 'Set mysql root password'
[21:50] <bjrohan> daftykins: 512
[21:50] <cristian__c> k1l_, I've installed lamp, but I've not configured it
[21:50] <Busserl> cristian__c: LAMP is an acronym for those applications, tasksel just installed them all at once for you. lamp is not a "suite".
[21:51] <cristian__c> yet
[21:51] <daftykins> bjrohan: ouch! to be honest that kind of spec is really going to struggle with any form of ubuntu, what are you hoping to use it for?
[21:51] <bjrohan> daftykins: should I use lubuntu
[21:51] <cristian__c> Busserl, I think the lamp-server package
[21:51] <k1l_> cristian__c: follow the wiki page i lnked you
[21:51] <bjrohan> daftykins: it isn't for me, but a friend that this was given too. My understading searching the web, and running citrix receiver
[21:51] <cristian__c> k1l_, I was quoting the titles into it
[21:52] <daftykins> bjrohan: ah ok, then yeah lubuntu would be the lightest (though least nice looking ;) ) choice
[21:52] <Busserl> cristian__c: You should learn how to configure the applications you installed. Follow the ubuntu wiki, yes, read their manual, and lamp-server packagesi just a convenience package to install multiple 'real' packages at once.
[21:52] <k1l_> cristian__c: you still need to config that.
[21:52] <bjrohan> daftykins: not so good looking, but my guess is well supported as ubuntu based
[21:52] <cristian__c> k1l_, ok, but it's not easy
[21:52] <Busserl> cristian__c: correct.
[21:52] <bjrohan> daftykins: this person is not very computer savvy (but works for a wind power company)
[21:53] <k1l_> cristian__c: no one said it is easy to run a safe webserver
[21:53] <daftykins> bjrohan: ah, ok well see how you get on installing that one :) if you still have issues with missing interfaces i'm sure anyone in here would be happy to help :) let me give you a link for information on broadcom wireless also...
[21:53] <k1l_> cristian__c: that is the reason there are so much corrupted websites out there.
[21:53] <SchrodingersScat> bjrohan: last I checked, xubuntu said it could run on 512meg, but lubuntu should be lighter
[21:53] <daftykins> !broadcom | bjrohan give this a look :)
[21:54] <awesomess3> to run a safe webserver all you have to do is:     while [ 1 ] ; do yes | sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql5-server ; sleep<PHONE_NUMBER>123 ; done
[21:54] <cristian__c> k1l_, in the wiki page you've suggested there are many many things, but I'm not sure they everything is mandatory
[21:55] <SchrodingersScat> awesomess3: no update or upgrade?
[21:55] <ikonia> awesomess3: that is stupid, please don't make such pointless comments
[21:55] <cristian__c> *that
[21:55] <bjrohan> daftykins: Thank you, the 1st driver option will work on that page for the 4311. Any ideas regarding the ehternet not working after install?
[21:55] <Glycan> Hi. My home and end keys don't work, how can I fix this?
[21:55] <cristian__c> awesomess3, lol
[21:56] <usr13> Glycan: You've forgotten your password?
[21:56] <Glycan> usr13: uh, what?
[21:56] <usr13> Glycan: What is it you need to fix?
[21:56] <Glycan> My home and end keys do not work.
[21:56] <daftykins> bjrohan: i'd recommend disabling the "install with updates" option, if lubuntu offers it - then perhaps it will remain online and you'll be able to come back and we can identify the hardware etc.
[21:57] <usr13> Glycan: Define keys.  Define home.
[21:57] <Glycan> The keys next to the big delete button, insert, pause/break, and PGUP/PGDW on many keyboardS?
[21:57] <bjrohan> Thank you, I am currently on a different computer :). I will install lubuntu and see how it goes.
[21:57] <Glycan> Keyboard keys?
[21:57] <usr13> Glycan: Oh, ok.
[21:57] <Glycan> A button, on a keyboard, with "home" written on in, in, uh, arial I think
[21:57] <Glycan> maybe 7pt?
[21:58] <usr13> Glycan: So, those keys don't work anywhere?
[21:58] <Glycan> No, not even in tty
[21:59] <usr13> !keyboard | Glycan
[21:59] <Glycan>  ...what does this have to do with layouts?
[21:59]  * Guest4513 cristian_c
[21:59] <usr13> Guest4513: I don't know really.  I've  yet to see such a problem, was just a wild guess.
[22:00] <Glycan> was that for me?
[22:00] <alket_livecd> Hi , im trying to shrink a LVM , why do I get his error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7844213/
[22:00] <Glycan> and I'm using lubuntu (xfce) but I don't have settings nor settings manager
[22:00] <usr13> Glycan: There are certain applications in which Home or End keys do nothing, so what you have may be normal.
[22:01] <Glycan> usr13: no, this is system-wide, including tty
[22:01] <]CkB[Hologram> wow holy shit
[22:01] <usr13> Glycan: Could also be that your keyboard is defective.
[22:01] <]CkB[Hologram> oops wrong channel
[22:01] <Glycan> You know, to jump to the end and start of lines?
[22:02] <jimmyv> does anybody know how to upgrade an image created with debootstrap?
[22:02] <Glycan> can I bind somethign else to those keys?
[22:02] <eeee> Glycan: not a fix, but you can use ctrl+A ctrl+E to jump to the beginning an end of line til you fix the problem
[22:02] <Glycan> eeee: doesn't work in libreoffice
[22:03] <usr13> Glycan: So if you are in a [multi-page] man file in a tty, the Home or End key will do nothing?
[22:03] <freijon> does anyone use Chrome Unstable and have the issue that fonts are looking very ugly since the last update?
[22:04] <Glycan> usr13: yes
[22:04] <OerHeks> freijon, chrome or chromium?
[22:05] <freijon> OerHeks: Chrome (and I guess Chromium too)
[22:06] <eeee> Glycan: Libre Office > Tools > Customize > Keyboard, might be useful
[22:06] <OerHeks> for beta/unstable chrome report to google, chromium to launchpad
[22:07] <usr13> !locale | Glycan
[22:07] <Glycan> what's that go tot do with it?
[22:07] <usr13> Glycan: Was that for me?
[22:08] <usr13> Glycan: locale |pastebinit  #Let's have a look.
 and I'm using lubuntu (xfce)  >> lxde or xfce?
[22:09] <Glycan> just a moment
[22:09] <Glycan> OerHeks: err, lxde
[22:09] <Glycan> they both have an x in their name, I keep confusing them
[22:10] <Glycan> eeee: thanks, looking at that right now
[22:10] <Glycan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844263/
[22:12] <OerHeks> dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-layout
[22:13] <OerHeks> or dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[22:13] <usr13> Glycan: cat /etc/default/keyboard
[22:13] <usr13> Glycan: What does ^^^^ that say?
[22:13] <Glycan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844279/
[22:14] <usr13> Glycan: pastebinit /etc/default/keyboard
[22:14] <Glycan> ohhh, I get it
[22:14] <Glycan> I think this is because it thinks I'm using my laptop's keyboards, wheras I'm actually using a pluggable one
[22:15] <usr13> Glycan: Oh so you asked this problem about a keyboard and neglected to tell us you were using a laptop with an external keyboard plugged into it?
[22:15] <Glycan> dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration asks me about my keyboard's modal, which I'm fairly ignorant off
[22:15] <gartral> alright guys.. I have an odd problem, I have a laptop, an HP Elitebook 2730p, works almost perfectly minus a single flaw, the built-in 3g card, a Gobi-2000 chip, doesn't come up, lsusb doesn't show it, nothing in the logs.. but under windows it does.. it's very strange
[22:16] <Glycan> usr13: I thought it was a software thing
[22:16] <usr13> Glycan: So what kind of keybard is it?
[22:16] <usr13> *keyboard*
[22:17] <Glycan> has a HP logo on it
[22:17] <usr13> Glycan: Really?  It has a logo on it?  Never mind ;(
[22:17] <usr13> Glycan: I think you figured it out anyway.
[22:17] <Glycan> uh, KU-0841 model...
[22:18] <Glycan> does HP make laptops?
[22:18] <gartral> Glycan: yea
[22:18] <usr13> Glycan: USB or PS2 ?
[22:18] <eeee> am i high
[22:18] <eeee> whats happening
[22:18] <usr13> eeee: I think so.
[22:18] <usr13> eeee: It is either me and you, or it's Glycan
[22:20] <Glycan> not high, just really tired, sorry...
[22:20] <usr13> Haha That's ok.  We all have our moments. (We hope to find some humor in it every now and then...)
[22:21] <Glycan> huh, so I ran dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, now my tty has a different font but home still doesn't work
[22:21] <usr13> Glycan: pastebinit /etc/default/keyboard
[22:21] <Glycan> PS/2 is the round thing, right?
[22:21] <usr13> yep
[22:21] <Glycan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844299/
[22:21] <JWommack> Also a great way to date hardware
[22:21] <Glycan> huh?
[22:21] <Glycan> oh, date as in by time
[22:22] <satsuki> gartral : if it's build-in 3g card i doubt lsusb can show it
[22:22] <Glycan> no, despite being terribly old, my laptop doesn't have those
[22:22] <usr13> Glycan: So waht you see there is the keyboard that the laptop has in it, (hpi6).  Right?
[22:23] <Glycan> no, because I've reconfigured it since then
[22:23] <Glycan> with the previous command you told me to do
[22:23] <Glycan> dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[22:23] <Glycan> It's a Dell laptop, D400
[22:24] <usr13> Glycan: And if it were to say XKBMODEL="pc105" instead of XKBMODEL="hpi6" you'd probably have working Home and End keys.
[22:25] <Glycan> What's pc105?
[22:25] <Glycan> Rather, what does dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration think that's called?
[22:25] <usr13> Glycan: Probably the type of keyboard you have plugged in....
[22:26] <usr13> Glycan: Does your laptop keyboard have Home and End keys on them?
[22:26] <Glycan> uh yes
[22:26] <FuzzyHarpyBug> I need a little help connecting dreamweaver to my apache server. trying to use mod_dav but I have no idea what I'm doing. This is what I've got so far http://pastie.org/9415872 in the apache2.conf file, and http://imgur.com/iDmWXpn in the dreamweaver config.
[22:26] <usr13> Glycan: Do they work?
[22:26] <FuzzyHarpyBug> I know I'm missing something entirely...
[22:26] <Glycan> usr13: no, my laptop keyboard is competely fried
[22:26] <i_antr0g3n> liteirc.net is already in ownership 2 be used via teh network in question! linkers based on mass agreement, unmoderated channels uther than 4 true moderation issues, like flooding, is the goal. Enjoy the kline!
[22:27] <Baribal> Hi. I've got a video, I've got a soudtrack for it, what tool would you recommend to splice and adjust them, and to cut away bits at the beginning and end?
[22:28] <i_antr0g3n> liteirc.net is already in ownership 2 be used via teh network in question! linkers based on mass agreement, unmoderated channels uther than 4 true moderation issues, like flooding, is the goal. Enjoy the kline!
[22:28] <usr13> Glycan: Try changing XKBMODEL="hpi6" to XKBMODEL="pc105"  and then remove all that stuff after XKBOPTIONS, so that it looks like XKBOPTIONS=""
[22:29] <mattlindn> Why. The heck. Is the default IRC client Quassel?
[22:29] <mattlindn> it just doesn't work. Doesn't even give error messages
[22:29] <mattlindn> come on you guys
[22:29] <daftykins> mattlindn: this is not a forum to vent your spleen.
[22:29] <usr13> Glycan: Or comment out those 4 lines and make some new ones, (in case you ever get a new keyboard).
[22:29] <WXZ> I need a webcam emulator for precise pangolin
[22:29] <Glycan> usr13: it mentions a bunch some mildly scary stuff about what to do after changing that file, can't I just change it with the dpkg thing?
[22:30] <k1l_> mattlindn: its not quassel on unity
[22:30] <i_antr0g3n><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:30] <mattlindn> k1l_, dunno i just typed IRC into the ubuntu automatic button thingy and thats what opened
[22:30] <Glycan> although admitedly I can't see anything that could correspond to pc105
[22:30] <k1l_> mattlindn: quassel is even not installed by default
[22:30] <Glycan> PC-98xx Series?
[22:31] <JWommack> Does unity even have a default irc? I didn't think it did.
[22:31] <i_antr0g3n> what freenode probably tried be it isn't. We need more active interaction. Freenode is for foss. Efnet is more skiddies and sluts. And anythink else large is innactive. Lookin 2 merge what is laready half of 12 1gig e servers to others - linkers are not required to do anything except be technically inclined. If you stay a linker is based upon mass agreement of current linkers. Lookin for unmoderated channels uther than for true moderation
[22:31] <k1l_> xchat is the default for irc. they should switch to hexchat imho
[22:31] <mattlindn> k1l_, i never installed it
[22:31] <mattlindn> k1l_, was on the default LTS distro
[22:32] <JWommack> hmm, strange, it wasn't bundled for me, closest thing that was was empathy
[22:32] <mattlindn> mattlindn, xchat isn't installed by default, had to install it, and is what i'm using now
[22:32] <usr13> Glycan: You could always make a backup, sudo cp /etc/default/keyboard /etc/default/keyboard.bak
[22:32] <mattlindn> er
[22:32] <mattlindn> k1l_,
[22:32] <sheap> why did krb5-clients get deleted from the repos?
[22:32] <Glycan> eh, fine, I'll do it another time, I've already wasted more time messed around with this then I would of saved by them working
[22:32] <Glycan> thank you very much
[22:33] <Glycan> I think libreoffice has a workaround
[22:33] <eeee> Glycan: it has a workaround,
[22:33] <eeee> Glycan: try running xev, then press home, see if the terminal picks it up
[22:34] <Glycan> doesn't
[22:35] <rick7> A
[22:36] <usr13> mattlindn: irssi is good
[22:36] <nashant> Hi guys, I've got a sudo problem. Getting  sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/user/0: No such file or directory
[22:38] <k1l_> mattlindn: xchat is not installed by default, that is right but its the default irc program. but quassel is not default at all.
[22:38] <Glycan> eeee: but yeah, bound libreoffice with C-a and C-e
[22:38] <usr13> nashant: What user are you logged in as?
[22:39] <nashant> usr13: my main user
[22:39] <usr13> nashant: Are you logged in as Guest ?
[22:39] <usr13> nashant: What is the user name?
[22:40] <nashant> usr13: www. It's my web server
[22:40] <awesomess3> user www, group www-data?
[22:41] <nashant> replace "user" with "www" in the above error
[22:41] <nashant> nope, group www
[22:41] <usr13> nashant: whoami
[22:41] <nashant> www:www
[22:42] <eeee> Glycan: you can remap your keyboard
[22:42] <usr13> nashant: ls /home/
[22:42] <nashant> just /home/www
[22:42] <usr13> nashant: So if you issue the command ls /home/  You get what?  www  ?
[22:43] <eeee> Glycan: try xmodmap -e "keycode 0xff50=Home"
[22:43] <alesan> hey what was that command line tools to mess with PDF documents from the command line?
[22:43] <nashant> usr13: yeah
[22:43] <alesan> like split them in pages, or enable/disable features
[22:43] <usr13> nashant: grep www /etc/group |pastebinit
[22:43] <chrissg> pdfsam.
[22:44] <usr13> nashant: Or  grep adm /etc/group
[22:44] <nashant> adm:x:4:syslog,www
[22:45] <usr13> nashant: So sudo does not work at all for you?
[22:45] <eeee> Glycan: i don't think that'll work cuz it's not picking up the home key, but you can get the hex value for any key with xev, and set it to home. so it will be system-wide
[22:45] <nashant> usr13: It seems to do stuff. For instance I can sudo su into root
[22:45] <usr13> nashant: ls /var/lib/sudo/
[22:46] <usr13> nashant: So sudo -i works?
[22:46] <nashant> usr13: Yeah, but I get the same error
[22:47] <usr13> nashant: df
[22:48] <usr13> nashant: What is the higest number in the Use% collumn
[22:48] <nashant> usr13: Nowhere near full
[22:48] <nashant> 8%
[22:50] <usr13> nashant: So what all is in  /var/lib/sudo/user/  ?
[22:50] <nashant> usr13: it's /var/lib/sudo/www
[22:50] <nashant> but /var/lib/sudo/www/0  isn't a directory, but a file
[22:52] <FuzzyHarpyBug> Ok, maybe someone here can help me with this question instead. I have root login and password auth disabled for my ubuntu 14.04 server, public key auth only. Is there a way to make just a certain directory accessible with a username and password?
[22:54] <usr13> nashant: I did not said it was a directory, (I was asking what was there).
[22:54] <nashant> usr13: all that's in there ls 0
[22:56] <Symphonym> Does anyone know if something like Matrox DualHead2Go would work to setup connect 2 monitors alongside my laptop (with Ubuntu 14.04)?
[22:56] <Symphonym> connect*
[22:56] <usr13>  nashant I do not think that is correct.  What do you see when you issue command  ls /var/lib/sudo/
[22:56] <usr13> ?
[22:59] <thephreak> checkin in, I'm trying to do-release-upgrade on a system running 12.04. and getting an error "WARNING:root:file 'quantal.tar.gz.gpg' missing". IS there any way to update at this point
[23:03] <c3vin> having trouble with network manager in 13.10
[23:04] <c3vin> getting (32) Insufficient Privileges when attempting to switch wifi
[23:04] <c3vin> been searching for the past hour without any real direction of how to fix
[23:04] <c3vin> do I need to config something in lightdm or network manager?
[23:07] <usr13> nashant: What I am trying to get at is there should be /var/lib/sudo/www  (a directory).  Is it there?  Or is it not there?
[23:12] <usr13> c3vin: What do you need to do?
[23:13] <c3vin> usr13: Need to select wifi network at login screen
[23:13] <usr13> c3vin: At a login screen?
[23:14] <c3vin> usr13: getting Failed to add/activate connection (32) insufficient network privileges
[23:14] <c3vin> usr13: yes, lightdm
[23:15] <usr13> c3vin: What does lightdm have to do with the network manager?
[23:16] <c3vin> usr13: disregard, still a bit confused with terminology
[23:16] <usr13> c3vin: Are you unable to login to your user account?
[23:17] <c3vin> usr13: I'm able to login with local account, but would like to be able to select wifi network to login with AD account using Centrify Express
[23:17] <usr13> c3vin: Well, we need to establish conventional terms in order to understand each other.
[23:17] <usr13> c3vin: Sounds to me like you have 2 separate issues here.
[23:17] <c3vin> usr13: ok
[23:18] <usr13> c3vin: What is Centrify Express?
[23:18] <c3vin> usr13:http://www.centrify.com/express/free-active-directory-tools-for-linux-mac.asp
[23:18] <c3vin> allows network authentication against AD
[23:18] <usr13> c3vin: Is network manager giving you an error?  (Saying that you do not have priviliges to chane network settings?)
[23:19] <c3vin> usr13: yes
[23:20] <usr13> c3vin: Are you connected to your Wireless Router right now?
[23:20] <c3vin> yes
[23:20] <c3vin> usr13: yes
[23:21] <usr13> c3vin: So your question is not about your Local Area Network.  It is about Active Directory Tools.  Right?
[23:21] <c3vin> usr13: no, it's about network manager.  How can I provide permission to select wifi network at login screen
[23:23] <usr13> c3vin: You do not select a WiFi Network at the login screen. Are you confusing someting on the login screen with a WiFi Network?  If so, what is it?
[23:23] <c3vin> usr13: I'd like to be able to select wifi network at login screen, so users may authenticate against AD
[23:23] <c3vin> usr13: network manager shows WiFi network available, but I'm unable to connect
[23:24] <c3vin> usr13: otherwise, local users need to be created
[23:26] <usr13> c3vin: ifconfig |grep Bcast  #Tell us what that says.
[23:27] <c3vin> usr13: wifi IP address
[23:27] <c3vin> ???
[23:28] <usr13> c3vin: Does it give you a local IP address?
[23:28] <c3vin> yes
[23:28] <c3vin> are you attempting to troll me?
[23:29] <c3vin> I have a valid concern / bug
[23:29] <usr13> c3vin: I was about to ask you the same question.  ;)
[23:29] <usr13> c3vin: You told me that you are connected to your wireless network.  Right?
[23:29] <usr13> c3vin: Is this a laptop?  Or Desktop?
[23:30] <c3vin> usr13: lol....ok man.  I'm setting up a laptop cart for a school.  they will be shared with multiple users.  instead of setting up local users on each laptop, I've configured centrify to pull ad info
[23:30] <c3vin> that's working great
[23:30] <_zoggy_> <IP_ADDRESS>.static.etheric.net/<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:30] <c3vin> the only dependency is a network connection
[23:30] <_zoggy_> ...
[23:30] <c3vin> so when laptops boot up, they need to be able to select wifi network
[23:31] <c3vin> when wifi network is selected, insufficient privileges message appears
[23:31] <c3vin> so I'm wonding if it possible to allow wifi network selection on login screen?
[23:31] <usr13> c3vin: Are all these laptops running 13.10?
[23:32] <c3vin> usr13: yes
[23:32] <usr13> c3vin: The first question that comes to *my* mind is, are you intending to upgrade them?
[23:32] <c3vin> usr13: thanks dude, have a nice day
[23:32] <awesomess3> RIP 13.10
[23:33] <usr13> awesomess3: Do you have any idea what he was asking about?  Does anyone?
[23:34] <usr13> Active Directory Authentication for Linux at the Login screen?
[23:34] <usr13> Anyone?  (I'm lost...)  (Please help...)
[23:34] <awesomess3> usr13, why continue to care c3vin left.
[23:35] <usr13> Good point.
[23:41] <enchilado> 22
[23:41] <enchilado> I didn't say that
[23:41] <BrandonC> so doing install of ubuntu and its just stoped with dektop background and black menu bar at top
[23:44] <wsl38> is it possible to make an alias for the second part of a command? like cp filename ~/destination  but filename is going to change every time depending on the file.
[23:44] <Loshki> BrandonC: 14.04? Also, are you related to BrandonB ?
[23:44] <BrandonB> lol
[23:44] <BrandonC> ya and no
[23:44] <BrandonC> well were both humans and in irc, those are relations
[23:46] <Loshki> BrandonC: so, a fresh install that won't come up all the way, and the live DVD ran ok?
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Checking up on you .. do you now have your ubuntu installed ? OR ?
[23:47] <BrandonC> live cd worked fine
[23:54] <Loshki> BrandonC: do you get a prompt if you do ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[23:54] <BrandonC> duno hard powerd it off
[23:55] <BrandonC> xp install dosent see any hard drives
[23:55] <BrandonC> gana try new ide cable
[23:55] <k1l_> BrandonC: still that boot issue?
[23:55] <BrandonC> ya
[23:56] <k1l_> still didnt check the cables and other hardware?
[23:56] <k1l_> is that drive showing up in bios?
[23:56] <BrandonC> ya showes up in bios
[23:56] <k1l_> make sure the hardware is working at all
[23:57] <Loshki> BrandonC: A new cable can't hurt.