[09:45] <Ben64> jamesbrown: but first, upgrade to 14.04
[09:45] <Sevet> schnitzl--: alias grep='grep -i'
[09:45] <ObrienDave> Guest56035, yes, but you'll need a DVD. ISO is too large for CD
[09:46] <schnitzl--> Sevet: thx mate
[09:46] <Sevet> in your ~/.bashrc for persistence
[09:46] <schnitzl--> goes in bashrc i guess
[09:46] <schnitzl--> yea
[09:46] <schnitzl--> thx
[09:46] <Guest56035> ok no problem, got some next to me
[09:46] <Ben64> Guest56035: you'll have an option to format everything and install ubuntu. you probably don't want to choose that. read carefully
[09:46] <Sevet> or set GREP_OPTIONS
[09:46] <ObrienDave> Guest56035, after booting DVD select "try Ubuntu" and come back for help
[09:47] <schnitzl--> Sevet: i go with the alias. thx
[09:47] <ObrienDave> you'll find xchat in the internet menu
[09:47] <Guest56035> Ok
[09:49] <svetlana> Fuchs, thanks. I am asking #xdm about my issues. (lightdm and consolekit are also worthwhile things for me to learn, and I appreciate you mentioning them.)
[09:49] <svetlana> Fuchs, *lightdm → logind.
[09:50] <jamesbrown> Ben64 i will tonight right now i need to get this working in 20 mins so i can show my managers what I have done
[09:50] <Fuchs> svetlana: no worries
[09:50] <Fuchs> svetlana: technically you could work around it by locking your screen, starting a new xsession with $otheruser, then just switch back to your original one when that one logs out,
[09:51] <Fuchs> so you wouldn't have to put the password twice. But that is a huge pain in the rear end to set up, I really wouldn't
[09:51] <svetlana> ... "starting a new xsession with $otheruser" ... how?
[09:51] <svetlana> yep
[09:51] <Fuchs> svetlana: if everything is set up correctly  (e.g. xinitrc starting the right environment etc.) a simple startx should work
[09:51] <Fuchs> but then again: huge PITA, I wouldn't
[09:51] <svetlana> yes, but surely their tty startx was run from will not be locked?
[09:51] <Fuchs> I'd just move to a dm which isn't simple and a bit dated on purpose
[09:52] <Fuchs> no, not per default
[09:52] <Fuchs> so you basically have to do everything that logind/consolekit and modern dms do for you manually
[09:56] <thierryS>  /server -m efnet.org
[09:58] <sakokap> i used to have us next to the keyboard in the taskbar but its gone now. how do i get it back?
[10:01] <svetlana> sakokap, with what desktop environment
[10:02] <sakokap> svetlana lubuntu
[10:02] <sakokap> lxde
[10:03] <Malkia> Hello folks! As a new ubuntu & linux user I have problems as you can imagine :) the one I have is TFTP related, may i ask for help here ?
[10:03] <Ben64> Malkia: if its an ubuntu related question, yes
[10:03] <Malkia> yeah
[10:04] <Malkia> or i guess
[10:04] <Malkia> i am running ubuntu 14.04
[10:04] <Malkia> so you tell me
[10:04] <ObrienDave> !ask
[10:04] <Malkia> :)
[10:04] <Malkia> well I'm trying to run TFTP server on my ubuntu install
[10:05] <Malkia> and i get error
[10:05] <Malkia> a sec
[10:05] <Malkia> tftp> get a.txt
[10:05] <Malkia> Error code 2: Access violatio
[10:06] <Malkia> !patience
[10:07] <svetlana> "tftp"? what are you trying to do? (I would probably run an ssh server and use sftp, if I just wanted to transfer files)
[10:08] <Fuchs> sakokap: you could check whether http://noobish-nix.blogspot.ch/2012/06/how-to-add-and-switch-keyboard-layout.html  is still valid for more recent versions, I'd assume so.
[10:08] <Malkia> well i need to use TFTP to transfer a flash.bin file to my router so I can flash it ..
[10:08] <Malkia> i am using serial connection soldered few cables etc ...
[10:09] <Ben64> then follow the instructions for flashing said router, not so much a ubuntu issue from what i can tell
[10:09] <ObrienDave> Malkia, usually the router can access the file through its web interface
[10:09] <Malkia> well that is not the case
[10:10] <Malkia> it's kind of broken now :) the problem i got is that i cant get the tftp server to work
[10:10] <Malkia> the rest is not important
[10:11] <Malkia> I hope i can get some help to make the damn TFTP server to work, not wt
[10:11] <Malkia> not with the router issue
[10:12] <Ben64> you probably aren't running a tftp server and you probably don't want to run a tftp server
[10:12] <Malkia> well I do ! may you help with it or not :)
[10:12] <Ben64> pastebin exactly what you're doing
[10:13] <Malkia> sec
[10:16] <Ben64> !pastebin | Malkia
[10:17] <mark2> I see the super key hold down for the short cuts has been fixed. If you are on here, thank you.
[10:18] <svetlana> :)
[10:21] <Malkia> so what do you want me to paste in the pastebin for you in order to help me with the damn TFTP issue guys ? :)
[10:21] <Ben64> what you're doing that leads up to the error you posted above
[10:23] <Malkia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7841253/
[10:24] <Malkia> there it is i hope that is how you like to see it
[10:28] <Malkia> so i guess no one has ideas or cares in genera ? :)
[10:30] <elll> hello what are thees loco teams about
[10:30] <Ben64> Malkia: you don't need a tftp server to flash a router
[10:31] <sakokap> how do i assign the super key to the menu in lubuntu?
[10:34] <ObrienDave> Malkia, what is the brand and model number of your router?
[10:36] <Malkia> oh come on guys, i am doing networks 10 years now, the case is this, i broke the firmware, has no web interface and now i had to solder few  cables to run a serial connection to it and now i need to TFTP server to serve one file, i can do that with a program on Windows but I'm trying to learn thing or two for linux, searching the web for 2 days now and nothing helps, i also instaled the same ubuntu 14.04 @ home  and the tftp works without any problems .. ther
[10:36] <Malkia> e is something wrong with this install of ubuntu @ this computer and most likely I broke it somehow .. however i need help with this not with the router PLEASE stop going for the router stuff :)
[10:38] <Ben64> Malkia: for routers you need a tftp client, not a server
[10:38] <Guest51666> Hey, new to linux, poped in to try xchat
[10:38] <Malkia> ok
[10:39] <ObrienDave> Guest51666, it works and welcome LOL
[10:39] <Malkia> so the PC role is client
[10:39] <Malkia> ok
[10:39] <bcvery> Guest51666, Hey, welcome to Linux, this is the support channel, if you have any Ubuntu related questions please ask, if you'd prefer to just chat try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:40] <Guest51666> Thank for welcome bcvery
[10:41] <human_> @<sakokap> edit (~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml)
[10:41] <Malkia> Ben64: I also made that pastebin thing ..  here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7841253/ did you had a look @ it ?
[10:41] <Ben64> Malkia: yep
[10:41] <Malkia> so no ideas ?
[10:42] <Ben64> the idea is you don't even need a tftp server, so why bother
[10:42] <sakokap> human how do i edit that??
[10:42] <Malkia> yarrr ! :) you don't get do you ?
[10:42] <k1l> !away > chamunks
[10:43] <Malkia> ok sugest a way of doing it then :) hehe
[10:43] <Ben64> Malkia: listen up matey, tftp clients be for transferring firmware to ye router, not a server
[10:44] <Malkia> ok
[10:44] <Malkia> thats fine
[10:44] <Malkia> my mistake calling it server
[10:44] <Malkia> let it be client
[10:44] <ObrienDave> nice pirate speak Ben64
[10:44] <Malkia> doesn't change nothing
[10:44] <Ben64> no, you're running a server and client on the same computer, its pointless
[10:45] <Malkia> is i t a problem having both
[10:45] <Malkia> ?
[10:45] <Ben64> the error is a permission error. resulting from a user error most likely. none of that changes the fact that you don't need a tftp server at all and this whole exercise is with no point
[10:46] <Malkia> well :) suggest way of doing it then please :)
[10:46] <Ben64> follow the instructions for flashing your router?
[10:46] <Malkia> assume that there is no WEB interface
[10:47] <Malkia> and the only working connection to the device is trough serial port
[10:47] <Malkia> :)
[10:47] <Malkia> actually trough usb-ttl converter-serial
[10:48] <ObrienDave> have you flashed the firmware before using this method?
[10:49] <bhag> uswsusp  is hanging during resume after hibernating the device using s2disk
[10:49] <bhag> Can anyone help me out
[10:50] <Malkia> well yes, but the tftp clent/server or whatever it's role is .. was a program on windows that has interface so you can simply tell where is your file etc. now i wanna do the same but under ubuntu
[10:51] <Malkia> the issue  and the help is all about that tftp
[10:51] <Malkia> not else
[10:51] <sakokap> human i see    <keybind key="A-space">
[10:51] <sakokap>       <action name="ShowMenu"> what should i replace that with?
[10:52] <Ben64> Malkia: it really seems this is not the channel for you
[10:52] <ObrienDave> so, you have a working solution for windows and you want to spend 2 days trying to figure out how to fix the router using linux
[10:52] <Malkia> ok, PLEASE  tell me where to ask
[10:52] <Malkia> well the point is not fixing the router
[10:52] <Ben64> Malkia: maybe ##networking , since its a router problem...
[10:52] <Malkia> i got a lot of routers and gear
[10:53] <Malkia> i need the to leant what is the problem
[10:53] <gillesm> I can't boot on Ubuntu with ASUS Uedi Bios
[10:53] <Malkia> YARRRR!!! the problem is not with the ROUTER DUDE !
[10:53] <Malkia> hehehe
[10:53] <Mrokii>  /leave
[10:53] <Mrokii> oops
[10:54] <Malkia> thanks anyway i will try in networking
[10:54] <ObrienDave> Malkia, i suggest finding a TFTP client that works
[10:54] <Ben64> tftp works fine as a tftp client. the problem is knowing what to do with it
[10:55] <Malkia> that one works :) on other install.. in fact if i simply reinstall the ubuntu it will work i bet my ass.. the point is to understand what goes wrong here
[10:55] <Ben64> which i already explained, up to you to figure it out
[10:55] <Malkia> yeah a permission issue
[10:55] <Malkia> but what can i do about it
[10:56] <Ben64> make sure you can read/write to where you're trying to read/write
[10:56] <Malkia> ok, mate .. now we are talking.. was it that hard ? :)
[10:56] <Ben64> really? you couldn't glean that from "permissions problem" ?
[10:57]  * ObrienDave suspects english as a second language issue
[10:57] <Malkia> well I true newcomer to linux systems so no
[10:57] <Malkia> i am **
[10:57] <Ben64> i tried speaking pirate but it didn't seem to help
[10:58] <ObrienDave> Ben64, the pirate was a good effort ;P
[10:58] <Malkia> ok missed that line somewhere :)
[10:59] <rockworldmini> hi all
[11:00] <rockworldmini> can anyone say g2ipmsg error
[11:00] <ObrienDave> g2ipmsg error
[11:01] <compdoc> funny
[11:01] <ObrienDave> thanks
[11:04] <randint> hello, I'm on Lubuntu 32-bit. I installed graphics drivers for my GPU (NVIDIA GeForce MX420), using this tutorial (http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-nvidia-graphics-driver-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat). now for some reason I can't choose any resolutions other than 640x480. how could I fix this? before I installed the drivers, my default was 1280x1024.
[11:05] <ObrienDave> randint, where are you trying to select resolution?
[11:06] <trijntje> Malkia: you cant use a port under 1024
[11:06] <randint> ObrienDave: start menu -> preferences -> monitor settings (I'm not sure if it's the correct translation, I'm on a foreign language PC)
[11:06] <Ben64> randint: those instructions are way outdated
[11:07] <randint> Ben64: ok, it they're outdated, how could I reverse the whole thing? should I?
[11:07] <Malkia> OK ppl I do understand that I am a "linux n00by" :) so I don't wanna piss off anybody here, is there a channel that I can ask my "stupid" questions ? "_
[11:07] <Ben64> randint: you have to use a 96.* driver for a MX 420
[11:08] <randint> Ben64: and for that I have to get rid of my current driver, right?
[11:08] <Ben64> randint: you probably installed one much newer
[11:08] <Guest51666> system settings -> display  sets your res
[11:08] <Ben64> randint: what version of ubuntu are you on
[11:09] <randint> Ben64: it's Lubuntu, but I guess there's not much difference
[11:09] <Ben64> randint: i mean version. like 10.04 or 12.04 or ...
[11:10] <randint> Ben64: brb, toilet
[11:10] <trijntje> Malkia: pick a different port number and try again, port numbers under 1024 are reserved
[11:10] <Ben64> trijntje: not the issue here at all
[11:11] <Malkia> i guess so, Ben64 mate.. when i use ls -l /tftpboot i got only root user listed
[11:12] <Malkia> should i see the nobody user listed aswell ? \
[11:14] <viscera> Howcome Ubuntu isn't informing me that new packages are available for download? It's configured to, but doesn't.
[11:14] <viscera> 10.04 LTS
[11:14] <k1l> viscera: desktop?
[11:15] <trijntje> !10.04
[11:15] <viscera> k1l: installed from minimal ISO, then installed ubuntu-desktop task.
[11:15] <viscera> (because LUKS+LVM)
[11:15] <k1l> viscera: that is because the desktop packages dont get any support anymore.
[11:15] <viscera> k1l: oh sorry, it's 14.04 LTS
[11:15] <viscera> typo
[11:16] <ObrienDave> that will make a difference LOL
[11:16] <k1l> viscera: the standard is to make a popup weekly
[11:16] <viscera> k1l: I bumped it to Daily, but still nothing
[11:16] <viscera> k1l: the only non-official repo I have is the Numix PPA
[11:17] <viscera> but it never prompted before that, either
[11:17] <ObrienDave> viscera, update from terminal, i do that every day
[11:17] <trijntje> viscera: wait a week, then manually check for updates, if there are updates something is wrong
[11:17] <viscera> ObrienDave: yes, that works, but I want my GUI to inform me
[11:18] <viscera> trijntje: like I said, it's configured to inform me daily... so why do I need to wait a week?
[11:18] <viscera> ah, it's prompting me now but only after I manually ran the apt-get update
[11:18] <trijntje> viscera: well, if you just installed updates, and set it to daily, you have to wait untill there are new updates, and then wait a day, and if you're not informed after that you have a problem
[11:18] <ObrienDave> you may not have updates every day
[11:18] <trijntje> if you keep checking manually you won't ever get an automatic notifiication
[11:19] <viscera> trijntje: I see
[11:20] <beanee> cant uninstall java 1,8.0_11 orcal
[11:20] <viscera> trijntje: I will resist the urge to manually apt-get update, and keep my eye on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[11:20] <trijntje> viscera: security updates will be installed as soon as they become available
[11:21] <randint> Ben64: I'm on Lbubuntu 14.04
[11:21] <ObrienDave> if set to immediately
[11:22] <Ben64> randint: ok, 14.04 doesn't even include the 96 driver anymore, if stuff was working before you installed the nvidia driver, then you should just go back to that
[11:22] <viscera> trijntje: literally installed? yeah why is that greyed-out?
[11:23] <viscera> trijntje: "When there are security updates" option is greyed-out
[11:23] <viscera> trijntje: so no prompt for security updates at all, then?
[11:23] <trijntje> viscera: no, you always get a notification when there are security updates
[11:26] <viscera> trijntje: but do they install without my input?
[11:26] <trijntje> viscera: no, unless you enabled that during the installation
[11:26] <Guest91278> Does anybody know why virtualbox on Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't recognise USB devices? Extension Pack is installed, yet it doesn't show any usb devices.
[11:26] <viscera> trijntje: I did not.
[11:26]  * viscera reboots
[11:27] <beanee> i cant uninstall java
[11:27] <ObrienDave> Guest91278, you also need guest additions, iirc
[11:29] <Max2507> Hey guys I'm back, "trying" Ubuntu from a USB drive: Still have problems with the graphics. If I use my laptop's built-in screen and extent it to my external Acer monitor everything is fine. But if I turn the laptop screen off, there are some errors on the monitor (white flickering horizontal lines when moving the pointer or windows for example). Can anyone of you guys help me with that issue?
[11:30] <jeffreylevesque> I got the same error installing ubuntu server 14.04  - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981020
[11:31] <jeffreylevesque> I have LILO installed bc grub couldn't install
[11:32] <compdoc> what file do you edit to set a premanent path?
[11:42] <emr> Hello according to tcpdump output; 14:52:18.940884 IP 129.xxx.xxx.xxx > 31.xxx: ICMP host 202.xxx.xxx.86 unreachable - admin prohibited filter, length 76 whats this mean?
[11:44] <bipul> Hello, I am looking for a help.
[11:45] <bipul> I have external sata disk, through which i am  trying to install Linux, but the problem is that , i am unable to boot, it takes me into grub rescue> mode, and inside there are no disk which has linux file , i have checked with ls [hd0]/boot .. and all to every disk.
[11:47] <beanee> some one please tell me how i do uninstall java 8
[11:48] <beanee> java version "1.8.0_11"
[11:48] <beanee> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_11-b12)
[11:48] <beanee> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 25.11-b03, mixed mode)
[11:49] <bipul> beanee, sudo apt-get --purge remove <your java package>
[11:50] <beanee> <your java package>????
[11:50] <ObrienDave> beanee, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f78AgMPkw0
[11:51] <beanee> ObrienDave i tried it yesterday
[11:52] <beanee> Package 'oracle-java8-installer' is not installed, so not removed
[11:53] <ObrienDave> beanee, then either the package name is wrong or you don't have it installed
[11:53] <beanee> i dont have it installed
[11:53] <beanee> but java is there
[11:53] <beanee> Dash > java
[11:54] <Ben64> beanee: oracle java doesn't come with ubuntu. try to remember how you installed it
[11:54] <beanee> from there man site,
[11:54] <beanee> main
[11:55] <clabgin> I am having "-rw-rw-r--" access rights on a .tar file, is it possible to extract it
[11:55] <clabgin> ?
[11:55] <beanee> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html
[11:55] <ObrienDave> beanee, not following how it can be there if you don't have it installed
[11:56] <beanee> maybe i installed it and deleted the installer
[11:56] <ObrienDave> linux does not work that way
[11:56] <beanee> idk, i just wanna nuke it
[11:57] <beanee> i downloaded this file  jdk-8u11-linux-i586.rpm
[11:57] <beanee> from this link http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/8u11-b12/jdk-8u11-linux-i586.rpm
[11:58] <ObrienDave> why a rpm?
[11:58] <renebarbosa> RPMs packages are not for Ubuntu/Debian
[11:58] <beanee> maybe thats the error
[11:58] <beanee> idk
[12:02] <siwica> I have to displays I am working with. Is there a way to have workspaces for each screen separately rather then having a combined one?
[12:03] <siwica> *two displays
[12:04] <siwica> I do not want to change to stuff I am seeing on screen 1 when switching to a new workspace on screen 2
[12:05] <clabgin> how to merge tabs of terminal, while working one tab came out and now I have two terminal windows
[12:06] <beanee> found it
[12:06] <andrew710> hello  .
[12:07] <beanee> ./usr/share/doc/oracle-java8-installer
[12:08] <ObrienDave> cool, sudo apt-get purge oracle-java-8-installer
[12:09] <jamesbrown> hi guys first of. I am running on my local machine. This is not live. It is running as project86.localhost/
[12:09] <jamesbrown> I am getting this error
[12:09] <jamesbrown> http://pastebin.com/DwSYPva8
[12:09] <jamesbrown> can someone please help me.
[12:09] <NoOova> hello all!
[12:09] <NoOova> I have an problem
[12:09] <jamesbrown> What I am trying to do is 1) assign the current user which is me james to the project86 folder
[12:10] <NoOova> Htop does not shows me CPU usage by process
[12:10] <NoOova> all processes has 0% CPU
[12:10] <jamesbrown> james should be ro read, write and executable
[12:10] <jamesbrown> to*
[12:10] <NoOova> but in top graph i see usage and LA is over 10
[12:10] <corp002hun> clangin ctrl-shift-t
[12:13] <loa> ntz, hello. are you here?
[12:22] <poseidon__> hello
[12:31] <hnlin> Does anyone else have issues with mixed languages in UI elements on 14.04 when multiple language support packages are installed? My main set language is Dutch, some of my Gnome dialogs are in Swedish and apt-get install confirmations are in Japanese.
[12:32] <FD225> hello guys...how do i check the remaining disc space of my hard drive?
[12:33] <hnlin> FD225, df
[12:33] <hnlin> FD225, df -h will give you more readable results though
[12:33] <FD225> df?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> FD225 open a terminal: man df
[12:34] <hnlin> FD225, open up a terminal and type df -h
[12:34] <FD225> ok..
[12:36] <rocko> is htfs file system safe now to read and write to it in gnu/linux?
[12:37] <Malkia> HEllo all i got a permissions issue while using tftp client -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7841253/  Please help ! :)
[12:39] <jamesbrown> what does this mean -rwxr----- 1 james james 21713 Jul 22 22:39 index.php
[12:40] <FD225> guys..i'm running dual boot..windows and linux..in my linux i used just 12GB and when i check d hrd drive space on terminal by type df -h..it says 92% used and 1004M availabe...do i need to delete some files? to boost performance?
[12:40] <rocko> read write execute read jamesbrown
[12:42] <jamesbrown> rocko but it is not executing
[12:42] <hnlin> FD225, that depends on what you want to use it for. If you have applications that require lots of temporary files, 1GB might be a bit on the tight side...
[12:43] <beanee> sudo apt-get java
[12:43] <beanee> then purge it
[12:43] <beanee> fixed
[12:44] <beanee> thasnk
[12:44] <hnlin> !permissions |  jamesbrown
[12:44] <FD225> when i run some programs sometimes it fells slugish..
[12:45] <hnlin> FD255, try to review the applications that you have installed and uninstall those you do not need on short notice.
[12:46] <jamesbrown> hnlin i wnt to set that me james can read, write and execute every files, folders sub-folder sub files etc in my project86 folders. how can i do that please?
[12:46] <hnlin> FD225, performance bottlenecks while running programs can usually be identified using top or atop
[12:47] <Malkia> TFTP issue - >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7841253/ anyone ?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> FD225 unless you have a significant amount of data or you've added a whole bunch of stuff, 12 gigs is plenty for a new ubuntu installation.
[12:52] <hnlin> jamesbrown, issue a "sudo chmod 700 ./project86" after you have navigated to the parent directory of project86
[12:54] <hnlin> jamesbrown, issue a "sudo chmod -R 700 ./project86" after you have navigated to the parent directory of project86
[12:54] <Corey84> in 14.04 the sources menu is located where again sudo apt-add-repository deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian trusty contrib is failing to add
[12:54] <hnlin> jamesbrown, this will change all files in directories and subdirectories of project86 to 700 or in letters: rwx------
[12:56] <hnlin> jamesbrown, sorry about the -R I forgot in the previous command. -R stands for recursive, see man chmod for details.
[12:56] <hnlin> Does anyone else have issues with mixed languages in UI elements on 14.04 when multiple language support packages are installed? My main set language is Dutch, some of my Gnome dialogs are in Swedish and apt-get install confirmations are in Japanese.
[12:57] <jamesbrown> hnlin You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[12:57] <jamesbrown> sudo chmod -R 700 ./project86
[12:57] <cfhowlett> hnlin I've seen that in issue in Kylin
[12:58] <hnlin> jamesbrown, that's why I told you to navigate to the parent directory of project86 first. I don't suppose the parent directory of project86 is / , now is it?
[12:59] <hnlin> cfhowlett, ah, the Chinese version of Ubuntu? Did they tackle the issue?
[13:01] <Somelauw> Is anyone able to display this pdf correctly using evince? It's supposed to contain text instead of random symbols: http://www.kvdev.nl/mailing-nse-tu/surveyresults.pdf#page=1&zoom=auto,-201,848
[13:02] <cfhowlett> hnln not so much.  Purging the unused languages and setting system language to American English seems to be the recommended correction.
[13:05] <lostinthedark> im totally unable to install anything, apt-get update gives me full of 404's
[13:05] <lostinthedark> is that normal? raring
[13:05] <lostinthedark> are the raring repos gone?
[13:06] <k1l> lostinthedark: yes that is. you are way out of date. the repos get shut down and you are having serious scurity issues since months
[13:06] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark normal.  end of life
[13:06] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | lostinthedark (past) time to upgrade, amigo
[13:06] <lostinthedark> time to upgrade? is the second time that I use this system :/ wtf
[13:07] <k1l> lostinthedark: if you dont want upgrade for a long time use LTS. that is what its for
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !LTS| lostinthedark
[13:07] <lostinthedark> mmh
[13:09] <lostinthedark> can I downgrade this 13.04 to 12.10 (or i should use 12.04? confused)
[13:09] <hnlin_InMeeting> lostinthedark, 14.04 is the new LTS
[13:10] <MoonSlime> lostinthedark use 14.04 LTS
[13:10] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark 12.04 is the previous LTS and is supported until 2017
[13:10] <k1l> lostinthedark: upgrade straight to 14.04 with the 13.10 step in it. then you are good for 5 years
[13:10] <ntz> hello
[13:10] <ntz> one more question in this helpful chan ..
[13:11] <lostinthedark> those numbers are pretty confusing
[13:11] <lostinthedark> im not sure if 14.04 will work for me, i need to use it for Tizen
[13:11] <Pici> lostinthedark: They represent the YEAR.MONTH of release.
[13:11] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark 14.04 for the win.
[13:11] <ntz> is xubuntu based on same builds as ubuntu ? eg the only difference is that it brings xfce ?
[13:11] <boriseto> Is it possible to test if FGLRX is working with a LiveUSB version of Ubuntu?
[13:11] <lostinthedark> which says that ubuntu 12.04 is neeed
[13:11] <k1l> lostinthedark: its the year:month.
[13:11] <Pici> ntz: exactly.
[13:11] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark boot your USB, plug in your teizen and test
[13:11] <ntz> Pici: thanks
[13:11] <renebarbosa> boriseto, nop you can't
[13:12] <renebarbosa> boriseto, you will need to restart the system to get the fglrx module working
[13:12] <lostinthedark> i can upgrade by only using repos ?
[13:12] <hnlin_InMeeting> ntz, do mind though that xubuntu has different default apps installed.
[13:12] <lostinthedark> or, how i should upgrade in a fast way ?
[13:12] <boriseto> renebarbosa, ok, tnx. Will have to find another way then. I know I need to restart it, I was hoping there was a way to force install it on the stick, or restart the xorg only or something. Thank you for your help.
[13:13] <renebarbosa> boriseto, btw, if you're installing the fglrx from the Ubuntu repos it will probably work fine. I am using it and haven't problems.
[13:13] <k1l> lostinthedark: see the bots message
[13:13] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark torrent the 14.04 ISO, make a boot USB, clean install
[13:13] <Busserl> boriseto: i am not sure, but you can create usb sticks with persistent storage area, maybe that could work?
[13:13] <boriseto> renebarbosa, just to confirm what is the GPU that you use?
[13:13] <boriseto> Busserl, yeap, I was thinking of doing that.
[13:13] <renebarbosa> AMD/ATI Mobile 7000
[13:14] <lostinthedark> this sounds painful and crazy, going to lose everything huh ?
[13:14] <jamesbrown> hnlin sorry it was sudo chmod -R 700 project/
[13:14] <lostinthedark> is there not any "archive" of the rarning repos that i can simply use ?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark you mean use everything that you don't even use for months/years at a time
[13:14] <lostinthedark> like snapshots repo in debian
[13:14] <k1l> !eolupgrade | lostinthedark not if you upgrade
[13:14] <boriseto> renebarbosa, thank you.
[13:15] <k1l> lostinthedark: when will you read the answers you are given?
[13:15] <ntz> hnlin_InMeeting: yes, thanks, I realize
[13:15] <lostinthedark> i dont want to upgrade, i want to simply use it
[13:15] <lostinthedark> im not even able to install the zsh package
[13:15] <lostinthedark> everyting in the repos is a 404
[13:16] <k1l> lostinthedark: then you did choose the wrong install in the first place. dont blame us
[13:16] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark that's not "using" that's upgrading which is ... dead
[13:16] <k1l> lostinthedark: you dont take a 2 seater sports cabrio for a family ride with 4 children.
[13:17] <k1l> so you could be ranting and blaming us and ubuntu all day (but not in here) or you could even start to solve your mess
[13:17] <lostinthedark> im really unable to use the system htat i have installed here ?
[13:17] <renebarbosa> lostinthedark, if you really want to use a dead Ubuntu version, to install that software you will need to compile it from sources or search for that package in untrusted mirrors which is obviously unsafe.
[13:17] <renebarbosa> So, the best option is upgrade it.
[13:17] <k1l> lostinthedark: do you complain about windows 3.1 not having support anymore?
[13:18] <lostinthedark> renebarbosa: seriosly, i have no time to do an entirely new download, buy an usb, do a full clean install, re-install everything, copy from idk-where everything back... this is simply crazy
[13:18] <k1l> lostinthedark: no you dont, because its End Of Life. so is the 13.10 ubuntu
[13:18] <k1l> lostinthedark: then update it like the bot told you in his link 3 times already
[13:18] <renebarbosa> lostinthedark, just use the upgrade assistant, it will not hurt.
[13:19]  * lostinthedark searching for the bot
[13:20] <ego> ego
[13:22] <Pici> !eolupgrade | lostinthedark just in case you missed it
[13:23] <MoonSlime> lostinthedark: switch on the light! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
[13:24] <lostinthedark> aah, seems like replacing archive to old-releases im able to install things again
[13:25] <bipul> Hello, I am unable to boot my Ubuntu, it took me into grub rescue mode.
[13:26] <cfhowlett> bipul this is booting from the HDD?
[13:26] <bipul> cfhowlett, I am booting it from my External SATA
[13:26] <bipul> I have fixed it with my USB.
[13:27] <bipul> I have follow this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[13:27] <bipul> error:file not found.
[13:27] <bipul> grub rescue>
[13:27] <ego_> bipul try the iso grub repair
[13:28] <bipul> how's that?
[13:28] <bipul> I have to download an ISO file on my external sata
[13:29] <TJ-> bipul: what does "set" report?
[13:29] <bipul> ego_, How? Do I have to download iso file on my external sata
[13:29] <ego_> it is a linux iso you can find on the net,you burn it on a cd and boot your machine with it
[13:29] <cfhowlett> bipul I thought you said you had installed ubuntu to the external sata?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !details | bipul
[13:30] <bipul> set report says " color_highlight=black/white color_normal=white/black pager= prefix=(hd0,msdos3)/boot/grub root=hd0,msdos3
[13:31] <snufft> hi guys
[13:31] <cfhowlett> snufft back so soon!
[13:31] <snufft> stupid question, i've just added a 3rd party ppa for nginx. how do i make sure that nginx comes from that ppa instead of the default ubuntu one?
[13:31] <TJ-> bipul: And what does "ls (hd0,msdos3)/" report?
[13:31] <snufft> cfhowlett, hahaha, np!
[13:32] <ego_> http://www.beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1069-supergrub
[13:32] <Pici> snufft: apt will always pull the highest version number for a package from whatever repository has it.
[13:32] <snufft> Pici, is there a way that I can investigate those version numbers to check first?
[13:32] <bipul> It's showing my the root / directory structure
[13:33] <TJ-> bipul: That's good to being with... lets check you can see the grub boot files too
[13:33] <Pici> snufft: apt-cache policy nginx   will tell you which repositories have what versions
[13:33] <cfhowlett> snufft apt-cache policy packagename
[13:33] <TJ-> bipul: "ls (hd0,msdos3)/boot/grub/"
[13:33] <bipul> NO i can't see
[13:34] <bipul> Yes i did that it shows error:no such partition
[13:34] <TJ-> bipul: I think you mis-typed the 'msdos3' part there, that is the partition, and it worked when you used it previously
[13:35] <snufft> Pici, cfhowlett thanks heaps! fortunately my new ppa is using a higher version number :)
[13:35] <clabgin> how to make a user owner of a file
[13:35] <clabgin> ?
[13:36] <bipul> TJ-, Previously it working, but now when i am using it, ls (hd0,msdos3)/ it shows me error:no such partition.
[13:36] <k1l> !chown | clabgin
[13:36] <TJ-> bipul: Hmmm, that is weird... almost like the disk drive has disappeared
[13:37] <TJ-> bipul: if you issue "normal" does it report the same issue?
[13:37] <bipul> yes
[13:38] <bipul> now when i have unplugged it and then plugged it shows me list of directory. When I performed this commadn ls (hd0,msdos3)/
[13:39] <TJ-> bipul: OK, so that suggests there could be a hardware issue... could the eSATA cable be moving in the socket, or the drive not receiving sufficient power?
[13:39] <bipul> but when i am trying to use this command ls (hd0,msdos3)/boot/grub it's giving me an output error: file not found
[13:40] <TJ-> bipul: that suggests that grub isn't installed in that location... lets try some others shall we?
[13:40] <bipul> yes sure
[13:41] <TJ-> bipul: lets work through the partitions starting at #1, with "ls (hd0,msdos1)/" then "ls (hd0,msdos2)/" ... if you see anything like "boot" or "grub" in the output you may have found the correct location of GRUB
[13:41] <bipul> ok Let me try this
[13:42] <clabgin> whenever I am running a script on server , process gets killed,  free diskspace is 1GB and free ram at the time of process kill is 100 MB???
[13:42] <clabgin> is that enough to keep running  process
[13:42] <clabgin> ?
[13:42] <TJ-> clabgin: killed by what?
[13:44] <bipul> See when i have listed it, it shows me (hd0) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,msdos2) (hd1,msdos1)
[13:44] <clabgin> TJ-: dont know by what, where is issue?
[13:44] <bipul> TJ-, Should i list every one?
[13:45] <TJ-> clabgin: I don't know, but unless we know what is killing the process (check the logs?) then it could be anything at all
[13:45] <clabgin> TJ-: how to find the issue? at the time of process kill, I noted, disk was 1 GB free and RAM was 100MB free
[13:45] <TJ-> bipul: No, just if you see a "grub" directory in the output... you can always explore it with, for example, "ls (hd0,msdosX)/grub/"
[13:45] <clabgin> I just see on scree "Killed"
[13:45] <clabgin> there is no more log, what can help me , TJ-
[13:46] <TJ-> clabgin: It could be the kernel OOM killer... check /var/log/kern.log
[13:46] <sparton> clabgin : whats the process trying to be run? bash script? script issue?
[13:46] <TJ-> clabgin: is this on a shared VPS host or dedicated hardware?
[13:46] <clabgin> sparton: python script, it loads somes samll images in memory and saves them in database
[13:48] <clabgin> TJ-: thanks a lot, it says Jul 23 10:40:33 trunk kernel: [72450750.133607] Out of memory: Kill process 933 (python) score 147 or sacrifice child
[13:48] <clabgin> Jul 23 10:40:33 trunk kernel: [72450750.133617] Killed process 933 (python) total-vm:733792kB, anon-rss:88116kB, file-rss:0kB
[13:48] <clabgin> so it is RAM issue?
[13:48] <TJ-> clabgin: There you go then, OOM killer
[13:49] <bipul> TJ-, See, i got a disk it is (hd0,msdos3), which contains the list of directory, with boot/ but not grub.
[13:49] <Atque> I want to buy an Ubuntu Phone.
[13:49] <Atque> Where can I get one because it is better than Android?
[13:49] <sparton> clabgin: how long dose the process run? enough to monitor its usage for a leak? typically python would complain if it was out of memory
[13:49] <TJ-> bipul: Does that hard disk also have Windows installed?
[13:49] <clabgin> TJ-: how can I get over this? by increasing RAM ??
[13:49] <bipul> May be, I do not know.
[13:49] <Novartis> Is there a better way to SSH into a VPS other than putty?
[13:50] <Atque> Novartis: You could use any other SSH client on the planet.
[13:50] <Novartis> What do you recommend Atque? :)
[13:50] <k1l> !phone | Atque
[13:50] <Novartis> I'm on Windows @Atque
[13:50] <TJ-> clabgin: the kernel says " total-vm:733792kB", that is 733MB
[13:50] <k1l> Novartis: use the "ssh" command on ubuntu
[13:50] <bipul> TJ-, does it matter, i mean if this external disk is having windows installed?
[13:51] <Atque> Novartis: I use terminal.app on OSX.
[13:51] <k1l> Novartis: well, for windows clients better ask the windows guys
[13:51] <Novartis> Haha, fair enough k1l, thank you :) And thanks Atque ^_^
[13:51] <tk1> hi
[13:51] <clabgin> TJ-: yes
[13:51] <genii> Atque: The Meizu MX3 phone and the BQ Aquaris phone may be soon shipping, they will be the first outside of Nexus that will run it.
[13:51] <bipul> TJ-, Please
[13:52] <TJ-> bipul: Windows has a "/boot/" directory ... so it is possible that is what you are seeing. It doesn't matter having Windows on there, I'm just trying to picture in my own head what the purpose of what you describe is, so as to locate (or not) the GRUB files.
[13:52] <bulletxt> hi, if I download from ubuntu packages the source of printer-driver-gutenprint , how can I build it with ubuntu specifics ? Like prefix and all the rest? Thanks a lot
[13:52] <tk1> i have mysql job running, but when i type "mysql" my terminal says mysql is not intalled o_O
[13:52] <olivier_bK> hy
[13:52] <genii> Atque: There is also the #ubuntu-touch channel to enquire in.
[13:52] <olivier_bK>  i try to find something like a post-it in linux but where you can create a task and click on the link for example 1 : do that    2 : do this etc...
[13:52] <olivier_bK> do you know where i can found it  ?
[13:52] <bipul> TJ-, So am i able to fix this issue or not?
[13:52] <TJ-> bipul: Right now it sounds as if the boot repair didn't re-install GRUB correctly to that disk. Do you have a bootable live ISO (maybe on USB) so you can fix it from the Live environment?
[13:53] <TJ-> bipul: It's always fixable :)
[13:53] <bipul> Yes i do have bootable CD of Ubuntu 14.04
[13:53] <bipul> But how about this External Disk SATA ? am i able to boot or not
[13:54] <jeffreylevesque_> I'm having diffulties setting up my ubuntu
[13:54] <ego_> http://www.beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1069-supergrub
[13:54] <jeffreylevesque_> could someone assist me?
[13:54] <TJ-> bipul: Let me explain the boot process, maybe that'll help you see where the missing bit is. Power-on > BIOS Power-On Self Test (POST) > sector 0 of 1st boot disk (Master Boot Record - MBR) > GRUB core image (sector #1 to ~sector #1024 - before the first partition) > looks for GRUB 'root' file-system which contains "/grub/grub.cfg" and all grub's executable modules > show grub menu > load OS.
[13:55] <jeffreylevesque_> I can boot from my ubuntu 14.04 that I just installed
[13:55] <jeffreylevesque_> https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/351#issuecomment-49870612
[13:55] <jeffreylevesque_> *can't boot
[13:55] <TJ-> bipul: You're seeing the rescue shell because it has loaded the core image but can't find GRUB's 'root' file-system with the other grub files on
[13:55] <tk1> anyone for mysql error ? :)
[13:55] <bipul> TJ-, do you have any document for that?
[13:55] <tk1> i have mysql job running, but when i type "mysql" my terminal says mysql is not intalled
[13:55] <TJ-> bipul: My head :)
[13:55] <bipul> hehehe
[13:55] <bipul> ok ok
[13:56] <ikonia> tk1: how do you have a mysql job running - what does this mean ?
[13:56] <bipul> You go ahead.
[13:56] <tk1> i mean i have mysql in the list of the running processes
[13:57] <ikonia> tk1: please show me in a pastebin
[13:57] <TJ-> bipul: So, when you are repairing a broken boot, "grub-install /dev/sda" will re-write ~400 bytes into sector 0 of the hard disk sda, *and* write the core image into the following sectors along with a variable (prefix) that tells it which partition  will contain the other grub files including grub.cfg.
[13:57] <bipul> ok
[13:57] <olivier_bK> maybe i found my solution tomboy
[13:57] <tk1> http://pastebin.com/da5dykNJ
[13:57] <TJ-> bipul: Running "update-grub" simply re-writes the files into the grub directory, which is usually at "/boot/grub/" in the root filesystem
[13:58] <TJ-> bipul: So, if you can boot the system from a Live ISO you can use the terminal to fix the problem, or use a more automated tool like boot-repair
[13:58] <ikonia> tk1: ps -ef | grep mysql in a pastebin please
[13:58] <tk1> i restart the mysql service, and it seems to be ok
[13:58] <tk1> ok
[13:59] <TJ-> bipul: If the system has other hard disks besides the external SATA it is possible that boot-repair and similar tools may be confused as to which drive to write the files to
[13:59] <tk1> http://pastebin.com/UEWK7RSB
[13:59] <ikonia> tk1: so that shows you have the server process running,
[13:59] <ikonia> tk1: if you do "which mysql" what do you get ?
[13:59] <tk1> i get nothing
[14:00] <bipul> ok
[14:00] <ikonia> !info mysql-client
[14:00] <ikonia> tk1: sudo apt-get install mysql-client
[14:01] <tk1> it says mysql-client is already up to date
[14:01] <ivebeenlinuxed> jeffreylevesque_: Is it a clean install?
[14:01] <bipul> got it
[14:01] <tk1> i have ubuntu precise
[14:02] <rannger> Hello,all
[14:03] <tk1> ikonia: could it be a matter of symbolic links with mysql ?
[14:03] <adsc> if I use LVM for formatting my disk (which is a vmware virtual disk), and later expand the size of this virtual disk, will I be able to expand the partition size as well?
[14:03] <gillesm> When I install ubuntu on uefi Asus  i get always uefi and not ubunut idea ?
[14:03] <tk1> when i type mysql and press two times tab, i get a big list of mysql things
[14:04] <tk1> so it seems to be into my system
[14:04] <TJ-> adsc: Interesting question... that would infer that the PV would grow and the VG be aware there are now more extents. You'd have to do a test on that.
[14:04] <TJ-> adsc: I doubt it though
[14:05] <Lingo4> klkl
[14:05] <TJ-> adsc: The usual method od expanding VGs is to add additional whole-disk devices as additional PVs into the VG
[14:05] <DaghdhaAFK> Hi, i have an autostarting znc daemon, i have no recollection how i did that. Where would i look to siable that?
[14:05] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: run "sudo dpkg -l mysql-client*" - which mysql-client packages are installed?
[14:08] <adsc> TJ-: I see...that would also be an option of course
[14:08] <tk1> k
[14:08] <tk1> http://pastebin.com/cArjiy5B
[14:08] <tk1> (messages are in french :D)
[14:09] <jelly-home> Hi, how do I remove all traces of ubuntu one from a 12.04 LTS laptop installation?  Something tells me One's going to shut down on June 1st 2014 every time I log in.
[14:09] <jelly-home> it's a bit annoying given it's July now
[14:10] <daftykins> jelly-home: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to paste the output of "dpkg -l | grep one"
[14:11] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: That looks good - lets check all your mysql packages "sudo dpkg -l mysql*"
[14:11] <daftykins> jelly-home: looks to be as simple as "sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntuone-client"
[14:12] <tk1> ivebeenlinuxed: it returns that there is no package corresponding
[14:12] <raub> Where does "last" get the list of people who last logged in?
[14:12] <jelly-home> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7842143/
[14:12] <tk1> quite weird
[14:12] <jimi_hendrix> hi, i recently installed xubuntu and it cannot connect to the internet. it finds the networks in my area, then when i try to connect to one and provide the password, it waits a while then prompts me again. when i first installed it, i was able to connect to this network with the password provided. the password is correct.
[14:12] <raub> Found it. NVM
[14:13] <jelly-home> daftykins: sure, I could remove everything named ubuntuone\* but was hoping for a confirmation that's all there is
[14:13] <jimi_hendrix> right now i am on windows so i can use the internet, the side effect being that it will be hard to provide debug information.
[14:13] <Daghdha> Hi i am trying to find out where the auto starting znc is lokated but i can't find it.ANy tips? It was not in startup application preferences
[14:13] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: Try "sudo dpkg -l 'mysql*'" (single quotes)
[14:13] <tk1> ah yes, it returns this list
[14:13] <daftykins> jelly-home: just do as i mentioned above, it should be a meta package that takes the rest with it. give it a try first anyways
[14:15] <tk1> http://pastebin.com/7YCs9UEb
[14:16] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: That's all looking good - let me have a quick look through those packages for you and see where everything is - one sec
[14:16] <tk1> k thanks :)
[14:16] <jelly-home> daftykins: that would leave ubuntuone-control-panel-common and some other cruft http://paste.ubuntu.com/7842155/
[14:18] <daftykins> jelly-home: just see if the error still comes up then, no need to go any further in my opinion
[14:19] <jeffreylevesque_> I messed up installing Ubuntu 14.04.  I'd like to remove it, and start over - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/351
[14:19] <jeffreylevesque_> could someone assist me?
[14:19] <jelly-home> daftykins: thanks, I'll see what happens next time
[14:19] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: Be back in 2 minutes - just going to see what the sales team next door is complaining about (the fun of being an IT manager!) sorry!
[14:19] <jeffreylevesque_> I can't boot into my original OS (windows 7).  It tries to boot into ubuntu but fails
[14:20] <tk1> :)
[14:21] <micmac> hi
[14:23] <Daghdha> ok i have found  /etc/init.d/znc  , now what do i do to make it not start at boot? Just remove it?
[14:24] <micmac> so I have an outdated server running ubuntu 11.10, and I'm willing to do an upgrade to 12.04 LTS. the server is in production, so i wish i could do this upgrade at night unattended.
[14:25] <micmac> I have read about the DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive flag which should agree to every default prompt
[14:25] <cfhowlett> micmac why not upgrade to 14.04 server?
[14:25] <micmac> is it possible directly from 11.10 ?
[14:25] <micmac> cfhowlett: ?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|micmac
[14:25] <Pici> micmac: no. You'd need to upgrade to 12.04 first, regardless of what release you want to go to next.
[14:25] <micmac> ok, thought so
[14:26] <tykayn> re
[14:26] <tykayn> i am tk1 :)
[14:26] <micmac> I have many services, like dovecot, postfix, and so on with custom configuration (virtual aliases...), how can I know the upgrade will not break everything ?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> micmac might these types of questions be addressed in #ubuntu-server channel?
[14:27] <jamesbrown> hi guys i notice something. when i copy my folder from my usb to ubuntu  ALL my files had this permission -rwxr-----  but i want to change it to -rw-r--r--
[14:27] <jamesbrown> so how can i change all files to that?
[14:27] <micmac> cfhowlett: oh, ok then, sorry
[14:28] <jamesbrown> they are more files in other folders.
[14:28] <jamesbrown> which command will change all files to -rw-r--r--
[14:28] <rannger> Fhfdgv
[14:28] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: you still there?
[14:29] <renebarbosa> chmod 644 jamesbrown
[14:29] <cfhowlett> !info chmod
[14:29] <Pici> !permissions
[14:31] <jamesbrown> okay i just notice something which i thing is weird
[14:31] <jamesbrown> i did this chmod o+r index.php
[14:31] <jamesbrown> and it works
[14:33] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: You have two options - try "dpkg --reconfigure mysql-client-core-5.5" or ("apt-get purge mysql-client-core-5.5" "apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client" - NOTE this will remove MySQL server!!!!! Backup your data!!!!)
[14:33] <ivebeenlinuxed> tykayn: ?
[14:38] <rawrmonster> I have paid for amnesia back in 2012 and i Just did a reinstall yesterday but I can not install the game. It says it is not available for my current ubuntu version. Is there a way to fix this? Is it just missing a lib?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> rawrmonster what is the output of this terminal command: cat /etc/issue
[14:42] <Daghdha> Sometimes when i abort a shutdown the windows manager is already killed by ubunty and i am left with a black screen and amouse cursor. Is there anyway to do a reboot from that screen?
[14:42] <Daghdha> Now i just ssh in and reboot with commandline
[14:42] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, i get Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:42] <ObrienDave> what does that mean?
[14:43] <cfhowlett> obelix_ it means you're running ubuntu 14.04.1
[14:43] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: Off now - if you did get the message before, hope it helped
[14:43] <AaronMT> !edgy
[14:43] <obelix_> mmm
[14:43] <obelix_> i am not
[14:44] <ObrienDave> obelix_, typo meant for me
[14:44] <obelix_> just manage several servers running ubuntu
[14:44] <ivebeenlinuxed> tykayn
[14:49] <pbx> Gnome Do is being flaky about remembering its invocation shortcut. seems unlikely this is a bug, but what in my setup might be interfering? fresh 14.04 install, up to date, latest gnome do via apt-get
[14:50] <rawrmonster> cfhowlett: sorry had to open up my job " Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l"
[14:50] <cfhowlett> rawrmonster any error messages during the failed installation of the amnesia game?
[14:51] <okdamn> Hi!
[14:51] <okdamn> can i install ubuntu on a macosx partition?
[14:51] <rawrmonster> cfhowlett: It wont let me install it. I am the button is not active to install
[14:52] <cfhowlett> rawrmonster where did you get this game?  it's no in the software center
[14:52] <ivebeenlinuxed> okdamn: do you mean how to do I install ubuntu alongside OSX on a mac?
[14:53] <DJones> rawrmonster: Just as a thought, in teh File Menu, is there an option to "Reinstall all purchases"
[14:53] <okdamn> ivebeenlinuxed:  what that means sorry im not english
[14:53] <rawrmonster> DJones: thats where i am but i cant install the game. It says it does not support my ubuntu version
[14:54] <rawrmonster> cfhowlett: I got it from ubuntu software center
[14:54] <ivebeenlinuxed> okdamn: do a normal partitioned install, then install rEFInd to give you a boot manager
[14:54] <cfhowlett> rawrmonster not an ubuntu problem - gotta take it up with the game provider.
[14:55] <okdamn> ivebeenlinuxed:  so i just need a new partition and ubuntu will install on it?
[14:55] <okdamn> how to format the partition?
[14:55] <chro> how can I increase the maximum number of tcp connections allowed to a server?
[14:57] <okdamn> #macosx
[14:57] <adsc> are you sure it's server-capped?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !mac
[14:57] <adsc> usually, it's a router issue
[14:57] <adsc> some consumer level routers have pretty low open connection  limits
[14:58] <funkylab> !GNURadio
[14:58] <funkylab> !help
[14:58] <ikonia> ?
[15:00] <DJones> rawagner: I wish I could suggest something, from what I can see, it should show up in software centre but doesn't for me
[15:01] <cfhowlett> DJones same here.  that's why I asked where he was getting it from
[15:04] <pbx> any other gnome do users find that it doesn't remember its invocation key?
[15:04] <ikonia> invocation key ?
[15:05] <pbx> ikonia, preferences > keyboard > summon do
[15:07] <fAz4> In task bar i open new nautilus window using Files icon when i click on it again it opens another one ? why it doesn't show the first Nautilus window ever ?
[15:07] <fAz4> does anyone with the same problem  ?
[15:07] <fAz4> I'm on unity
[15:08] <clevas> I'd like to know if anyone actually successfully installed ubuntu along side win 8.1 without corrupting the mbr
[15:08] <cfhowlett> clevas yes
[15:08] <clevas> followed tutorials and shit and corrupted it every time
[15:12] <hnlin> clevas, are you sure that you have a mbr rather than a (U)EFI/ GPT  based system
[15:13] <cfhowlett> hnlin actually, if he's got win 8.1 it's virtually certain to be EFI
[15:14] <hnlin> cfhowlett, how so, he might have upgraded from win7 >> win8
[15:15] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> hi, I am trying to setup rsnapshot to have daily (nightly) backups
[15:15] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> could someone provide me a little guidance?
[15:15] <funkylab> cfhowlett: anyway, has anyone successfully made win8/EFI boot from grub, or boot grub from the windows EFI bootloader?
[15:16] <maxvi> when will ubuntu phone be released?
[15:16] <hnlin> funkylab, yes, I have
[15:16] <funkylab> hnlin: nice; did you have to hand-tweak stuff or did the installer take care of everything
[15:16] <cfhowlett> maxvi there is no "ubuntu" phone.  there are OEM's which will release their phones with ubuntu touch - when they're ready
[15:17] <clevas> hnlin it's definately not UEFI
[15:17] <clevas> I made sure
[15:17] <hnlin> funkylab, it was a virtual nightmare, involving lots of EFI hacking, I have a Sony Vaio Pro 13
[15:17] <clevas> It's an older dell
[15:18] <hnlin> funkylab, it took me about a week's work, no kidding.
[15:18] <maxvi> cfhowlett: did they announce some dates?
[15:18] <cfhowlett> maxvi "when it's done" ... sorry.
[15:19] <cfhowlett> maxvi meizu was one of the companies involved.  If you can read mandarin, perhaps you'll find info from their site
[15:19] <hnlin> cfhowlett, link please?
[15:20] <hnlin> to meizu^
[15:20] <cfhowlett> hnlin http://www.meizu.com/
[15:20] <hnlin> Thank you ^_^
[15:20] <cfhowlett> hnlin happy2help
[15:21] <Ziber> So, I have a basic Ubuntu server install (in a Xen VM), and I want to increase the HD capacity. The Xen host gives disks to the VMs via LVM, and I've lvextended it. But I can't figure out how to get the VM to recognize the bigger disk.
[15:22] <funkylab> hnlin: I know your pain; as a fedora guy, I first try to convince anaconda to do what I want (the fedora installer), but soon gave up and realized I had to hand tweak
[15:22] <funkylab> hnlin: then I realized that I was doing this in my overtime, so I just annihilated everything and switched to MBR
[15:23] <funkylab> 1h later, windows was running, and a subtle 8min later, my linux was running, updated and had all the software I wanted
[15:23] <funkylab> and that was my brief re-excourse into the exiting world of windows installation
[15:23] <hnlin> funkylab, I considered doing this, but the special extensions by Sony (necessary to detect some hardware) require a EFI/GPT boot process.
[15:24] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> hi, I am trying to setup rsnapshot to have daily (nightly) backups. Could someone provide me a little guidance?
[15:24] <funkylab> hnlin: :/
[15:25] <funkylab> !patience
[15:25] <hnlin> funkylab, but I have won in the end, Ubuntu 14.04 runs and every bit of hardware works.
[15:25] <Novartis> how do I give a user sudo power?
[15:26] <funkylab> Novartis: add him to the right group
[15:26] <hnlin> Novartis, by adding that user to the group sudoers
[15:26] <cfhowlett> Novartis add him to the sudo user gropu
[15:26] <cfhowlett> *group*
[15:26] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> funkylab the idea is to ask for people just joining in
[15:26] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> if I felt ignored I would cy on my corner :p
[15:26] <funkylab> :)
[15:26] <funkylab> To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne: I'd love to help you, but I know nothing about rshnapshot
[15:27] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> I am fine with other backup programs
[15:28] <FD225> hello guys...how to clean ubunto?
[15:29] <Novartis> Where is /usr/bin?
[15:29] <pyoor> Hi all.  Does anyone know if there's a way to modify wake from suspend so that it only wakes when the lid is opened?
[15:29] <cfhowlett> FD225 "clean"????
[15:29] <FD225> yes..
[15:29] <cfhowlett> FD225 your question makes no sense.  explain.  details.
[15:30] <FD225> do i need to clean linux like windows?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> FD225 no.
[15:30] <pbx> FD225, no
[15:30] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> linux comes clean
[15:30] <FD225> what about history?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> !antivirus| FD225
[15:31] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> history? like webhistory
[15:31] <ObrienDave> FD225, Linux is not Windows
[15:31] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> thats a browser thing
[15:31] <cfhowlett> FD225 ??? edit your firefox preferences and to zero history.
[15:31] <Novartis> Hey guys, where is /usr/bin?
[15:31] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> ObrienDave I am also told Windows isnt Linux. Is there truth to it?
[15:31] <ObrienDave> Novartis, that is a directort
[15:31] <Novartis> in root?
[15:31] <ObrienDave> * directory
[15:32] <ObrienDave> from root,  yet
[15:32] <ObrienDave> *yes
[15:32] <Novartis> When I ls I don't see it :/
[15:32] <OerHeks> There is a tool called bleachit, but i didn't need it sofar
[15:32] <FD225> ok thks...
[15:32] <cfhowlett> Novartis run the command ls /usr
[15:32] <OerHeks> !bleachit
[15:33] <OerHeks> !info bleachit
[15:33] <ObrienDave> To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne, yes, Windows is not Linux
[15:33] <OerHeks> oh gone, good
[15:33] <Novartis> Ahh thanks cfhowlett, it is hidden?
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Novartis nope
[15:34] <OerHeks> Novartis, open Nautilus, it showes your /home/, press 'computer' on the left panel, and you go to / were /usr/bin is
[15:34] <fnunes> Hi all. Need some help to repair a partition table or the boot sector. The problem is that I installed windows 8.1 and all went ok. Had an extended partition for data. Now I wanted to install Debian to dualboot with windows 8.1. It happens that neither the Debian installer neither the Ubuntu installer neither the boot-repair-disk neither the GParted live can see any partitions. Tried booting from a windows installation disk and execu
[15:35] <fnunes> found. At least the data partition is vital to be recovered. I appreciate any help. Thanks.
[15:35] <FD225> guys..i have 64bit linux..when i install skype it says ' does not match my 64bit  system '..some tips guys..
[15:35] <hnlin> Gotta go home, Novartis, FD225, To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne, good luck in resolving your issues. cfhowlett, thank you for the Kylin link, it help to resolve the jumbled mess of mixed-up languages in the UI.
[15:36] <cfhowlett> hnlin happy2help
[15:36] <mbeierl> I have a problem with a brand new ubuntustudio install.  Is that supported here?
[15:36] <fnunes> Meanwhile the boot-repair gave this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7842422 .
[15:37] <bcvery> mbeierl, you might want to try #ubuntustudio
[15:38] <bcvery> FD225, how are you installing?
[15:38] <cfhowlett> mbeierl bring it to #ubuntustudio
[15:38] <mbeierl> bcvery: cfhowlett, thanks
[15:38] <FD225> after downloading..terminal dpkg -i
[15:38] <ikonia> nope
[15:39] <ikonia> shouldn't be don't dpkg -i
[15:39] <Novartis> Oerheks What's Nautilus?
[15:39] <OerHeks> Novartis, it is your standard filebrowser
[15:39] <Novartis> Oh
[15:39] <Novartis> I'm running on a VPS
[15:40] <compdoc> so youre running command line only?
[15:41] <Novartis> Yup
[15:43] <fnunes> Is there a channel for support ? Installation and boot repairs ?
[15:44] <cfhowlett> fnunes this is the channel.
[15:45] <catalase> can anyone here help me with an ubuntu networking issue
[15:45] <cfhowlett> !ask | catalase
[15:45] <catalase> according to #httpd, my apache2 server is properly configured. but i cannot access https. i have setup virtual hosts for port 443 and forwarded this to my server on my router
[15:46] <fnunes> Need some help to repair a partition table or the boot sector. The problem is that I installed windows 8.1 and all went ok. Had an extended partition for data. Now I wanted to install Debian to dualboot with windows 8.1. It happens that neither the Debian installer neither the Ubuntu installer neither the boot-repair-disk neither the GParted live can see any partitions. Tried booting from a windows installation disk and executing boo
[15:46] <fnunes> found. At least the data partition is vital to be recovered. I appreciate any help. Thanks. Meanwhile the boot-repair gave this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7842422 .
[15:47] <fnunes> My computer is like 5 years old and the mobo is prior to UEFI.
[15:48] <Lingo4> yahalou: hi
[15:49] <catalase> !patience
[15:51] <mbeierl>  New installation of Ubuntustudio 14.04.  / is on btrfs, /home is on ext4.  Installation finished, but on reboot when I log in as the user I created during installation, the X session terminates and I am punted back to GDM.  I can log in with user/pass from tty1.  auth.log shows "PAM unable to dlopen (pam_kwallet.so)" and requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user.  Guest login works.  Add user with useradd, and same problem occurs.
[15:53] <mbeierl> Additional info:  I have re-installed, with format of /, with same result.
[15:53] <OerHeks> mbeierl, why btrfs?
[15:54] <mbeierl> OerHeks: I used it before in 13.04 and thought it was the direction things were headed.  From the looks of it, it seemed to be a performance improvement over ext4
[15:54] <mbeierl> OerHeks: can try again with ext4 for /...
[15:55] <ukaz> cave resolve -c world
[15:58] <fhfeife2> i'm running update-rc.d and want my script to start later in the boot process as the ip i need to bind to isn't up yet
[15:59] <fhfeife2> is there something i can set?
[16:04] <TJ-> fhfeife2: It's a sysV init not upstart script?
[16:08] <genoobie> hey all
[16:08] <genoobie> new to linux so I'm asking for a bit of help
[16:09] <genoobie> just installed ubuntu on a second laptop, and no wireless
[16:09] <genoobie> trying to diagnose
[16:09] <cfhowlett> !wifi| genoobie
[16:09] <genoobie> trying to diagnose
[16:09] <kdz> helo, i havea mount error :<
[16:09] <yecril71pl> Hello, my Dash never shows anything
[16:09] <kdz> cannot mount / its said
[16:09] <michaelaguiar> In ProFTPD, is there a way to set DefaultRoot in the config, on a per user basis?
[16:10] <yecril71pl> kdz: who says this?
[16:10] <kdz> on my screen yecril71pl, then it said press or m of manual
[16:10] <kdz> so i pressed M and console screen loaded
[16:11] <michaelaguiar> So like I have , if user [16:11] <TJ-> kdz: That sounds like the PC is stuck in the initial RAM disk  (initrd), and will probably drop to a terminal if it can't find the root file-system
[16:11] <yecril71pl> kdz: what kind of screen?
[16:11] <Eric^^> fsck time?
[16:11] <kdz> how do i fix it TJ- ?
[16:12] <TJ-> kdz: How did this come about? Is this the first boot since installing Ubuntu? Have you recently done package updates on an existing installation?
[16:12] <kdz> i messed around with fstab the other day trying to auto mount some drives
[16:12] <kdz> and from then on it just wont boot into ubuntu
[16:12] <TJ-> kdz: That'd do it :)
[16:12] <kdz> i dont know how to fix it back :<
[16:13] <bwlang> ps aux is hanging after 50 or 60 lines... load average is 60 (32 core server) but i can't see the trouble makers.  any ideas?
[16:13] <TJ-> kdz: can you show us what "cat /proc/cmdline" shows ?
[16:13] <kdz> ok let me type it
[16:14] <ikonia> kdz: as suggested to you yesterday, as you have no idea what you've done to your disks, and you claim gparted has done things that are impossible I'd suggest re-installing to get back to a known "good" state
[16:14] <TJ-> ikonia: This is a known issue then?
[16:14] <ikonia> kdz: you've been at this for over 24 hours now and don't appear to be going forward and as the history of this damage is unknown and questionable a re-install to a stable sane point would be wise
[16:14] <Eric^^> bwlang: try top?
[16:14] <ikonia> TJ-: very much so, gparted changed his fstab and put usernames in it and many other thigns that can't happen
[16:14] <TJ-> ikonia: Ahhh... those darned gremlins :p
[16:14] <ikonia> TJ-: but he doesn't know what he did - he clicked buttons that don't exist on gparted etc etc
[16:15] <ikonia> so trying to work backwards from the "unknown" and the "untrusted" seems unwise
[16:15] <kdz> TJ- is ikonia typing somethuing? its on igore for critising me other tham helping
[16:15] <ikonia> as even fixing something by guess won't fix the rest / knock on changes
[16:15] <ikonia> the fact that he's just claimed I'm ignore when it's clear I'm not
[16:16] <Eric^^> cant he run genfstab ?
[16:16] <ikonia> Eric^^: the point is, it's not just fstab
[16:16] <TomAstro> Hello,  Is there a channel for Vinux?  I have a friend that is visually impaired and he is having issues with the latest install and also he is looking for a good talking clock..   Thanks
[16:16] <ikonia> Eric^^: it's created a system where partitions have changed/destructive and the steps he claimed did this are impossible/don't exist
[16:16] <Eric^^> i see
[16:16] <TJ-> kdz: If you've caused unknown regressions to the system then the best solution is to reinstall either alongside the existing installation, or replacing (wiping) it entirely
[16:17] <fhfeife2> TJ: i'm using SysV on older ubuntu release
[16:17] <yecril71pl> Hello, my Dash is empty.
[16:17] <daftykins> TomAstro: never heard of it, but we only support ubuntu here. not even any other distros that might base themselves from it
[16:17] <fhfeife2> TJ: i want my script to be the last thing that starts
[16:17] <mpaolino> hi guys, I would need some help with polkit. I want to overwrite permissions for org.libvirt.unix.manage, so I created a new pkla file in "/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d"
[16:17] <Guest16209> I'm back with the partial installation (half-installed) of wine problem.  I'm still looking for help to fix it
[16:17] <dannydaft> Hey guys.
[16:17] <kdz> TJ- thats alot of work, i have vm's and got it nicely running
[16:17] <mpaolino> but actually it doesn't work
[16:17] <dannydaft> Anybody want to grab some lunch?
[16:17] <Guest16209> dannydaft: Hey, Danny
[16:17] <mpaolino> I'm not a polkit expert...any idead about how to debug this?
[16:18] <Eric^^> kdz: you can back everything up.
[16:18] <Eric^^> VM's are in ~/VirtualBox VMs (if you're using VirtualBox)
[16:18] <ikonia> dannydaft: this channel isn't a "social" channel, so please try to focus on the channels topic, which is ubuntu
[16:18] <kdz> shouldnt this be a mount issue?
[16:18] <mpaolino> I've tried to use pkactions --verbose, but the permessions are always the same, unchanged
[16:19] <TJ-> fhfeife2: The usual way is to change the 'NN' passed to 'update-rc.d' to make it start after other services... You can also write an LSB-style "Required-Start:" entry into the init script like, for example, "/etc/init.d/apache2" has to influence things
[16:19] <dannydaft> ikonia: No reason to not be friendly though ;)
[16:19] <TomAstro> daftykins:  Is there a version or a way to set Ubuntu up for someone that is visually impaired?  He is having an issue as some may have getting the video to work when installing it from the dvd but the usb install works.  His wife is trying to help him set this up.
[16:20] <kdz> dannydaft : agreed
[16:20] <ikonia> dannydaft: sure you can be friendly, but this is IRC, so people are not going to "join you for lunch"
[16:20] <Guest16209> Anyone wanna help me fix my problem - I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 lts and have a half-installed installation of wine / wine1.6.  I need closure ...
[16:20] <cfhowlett> dannydaft perhaps you'd be happier in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:20] <reisio> Guest16209: what'd you install it for?
[16:20] <fhfeife2> TJ: yea- i'm not understanding what I should set NN to. i had it set to 20, but it appears to still not be the last thing that starts as one of my ip addresses isn't up yet
[16:20] <kdz> TJ- do you have some suggestions for me ?
[16:20] <TJ-> dannydaft: think about it this way, if all 1614 people in this channel asked if anyone was up for lunch, we'd not get any support done :) Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:21] <fhfeife2> TJ: the ip address might not be up yet because i hacked it together in some other script (ops)
[16:21] <dannydaft> ikonia: Haha. Just jesting mate. I know nobody’s actually going to go to lunch with me.
[16:21] <TJ-> fhfeife2: Maybe move it to something like 60 or even 90 ?
[16:21] <fhfeife2> TJ: thanks for the suggestion i'll try it..
[16:22] <Guest16209> reisio: I have some programs that I need to use that work in the Windows context
[16:22] <TJ-> kdz: Back-up and do a fresh install... if you don't have the sysadmin skills to undo what ever you did originally, no one else can really get a handle on it over IRC.
[16:22] <genoobie> okay
[16:22] <reisio> Guest16209: which programs?
[16:22] <catalase> can someone tell me why SSH keeps connecting on 1030 and 1024, when i explicitly tell it to connect via 22 and it is enabled in 22 in UFW and forwarded on my router?
[16:22] <reisio> catalase: explicitly tell it how
[16:23] <catalase> in PuTTY i tell it connect to mydomain:22
[16:23] <TJ-> catalase: Connecting *to*, or connecting *from* that port?
[16:23] <mbeierl>  New installation of Ubuntustudio 14.04.  /  and /home are ext4 fs.  Installation finished, but on reboot when I log in as the user I created during installation, the X session terminates and I am punted back to GDM.  I can log in with user/pass from tty1.  auth.log shows "PAM unable to dlopen (pam_kwallet.so)" and requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user.  Guest login works.  Add user with useradd, and same problem occurs.
[16:23] <catalase> TJ-, reisio, i do netstat -l -a
[16:23] <mbeierl> OerHeks: btrfs vs. ext4 makes no difference.
[16:23] <Guest16209> reisio: Is it relevant?  My problem is that the wine / wine1.6 partial installation is preventing me from installing and/or removing things, of doing a system update, etc
[16:23] <catalase> and it shows SSH, 1024 lol
[16:23] <cfhowlett> mbeierl ##linux might also be worth a a visit
[16:23] <reisio> Guest16209: only if you want the best assistance...
[16:23] <TJ-> catalase: 1024 is the first of the ephemeral ports, where clients will start off from
[16:24] <TomAstro> OK  going to go at a different approach to my question.  Is anyone here familiar with setting up Ubuntu for the visually impaired?
[16:24] <reisio> Guest16209: I could give you more vague, less useful assistance if you like :p
[16:24] <reisio> Guest16209: are they top secret programs? :p
[16:24] <fhfeife2> TJ: think another hack should fix it... going to just add the app i want to start after the place i put the stuff to set the ip...
[16:24] <reisio> I'm not saying that isn't a possibility, but it isn't what I'd assume
[16:24] <TJ-> fhfeife2: If it really becomes a problem you might have to start it from "/etc/rc.local"
[16:25] <Guest16209> reisio: I haven't had the possibility to install any Windows programs, so the reason for Wine is really relevant only after programs are installed or used with wine.
[16:25] <catalase> TJ-, what does that mean lol
[16:25] <reisio> Guest16209: ...wha?
[16:25] <catalase> TJ-, if i explicitly state that i want to connect via 22, would it not then connect via 22?
[16:25] <TJ-> catalase: You are running "netstat" on the SSH server ?
[16:25] <reisio> Guest16209: either you're willing to tell me what programs you're talking about or you're not; let me know which it is and we'll continue
[16:25] <catalase> yes
[16:25] <catalase> netstat -l -a
[16:26] <catalase> and i see, tcp        0      0 localip:ssh       wan-ip:1030 ESTABLISHED
[16:26] <catalase> but SSH is port 22?
[16:26] <TJ-> catalase: And what is wrong with that?
[16:26] <catalase> idk, should it not then read 22?
[16:26] <TJ-> catalase: the server is listening on port 22 (ssh)
[16:26] <catalase> yes
[16:27] <TJ-> catalase: The client is using its ephemeral ports (starting at 1024 through 65535)
[16:27] <fhfeife2> TJ: problem solved... it's my own undoing. i should have figured out how to bring the ip address up properly. in fact i think i know how to do that already. it's just a matter of modifying the /etc/network file or something like that. why i did it this weird way i don't know.
[16:27] <TJ-> fhfeife2: I think it takes us being silly to learn much though... so you now know more tricks :)
[16:28] <fhfeife2> TJ: to think the reason i hacked it together before was to save myself the time an energy of thinking it through
[16:28] <Guest16209> reisio: When you install Ubuntu, you have some programs included in the OS.  So it is with Wine, I imagine.  I had considered using Nero to burn a video DVD because I have videos that need conversion to go on a video dvd.  I haven't yet been able to try Nero because wine is not completely installed.
[16:28] <Eric^^> do it right or do it twice ;-)
[16:29] <reisio> Guest16209: okay
[16:29] <reisio> Guest16209: if you run 'ls -a ~/ | grep -i wine', you will probably see a directory like '.wine'
[16:29] <reisio> Guest16209: that is your Wine filesystem
[16:29] <Guest16209> reisio: Nero isn't installed anywhere, so I don't see the relevance, personally, but since you needed a program name
[16:29] <reisio> Guest16209: you can rm/mv it as you please, re-running 'wine' will regenerate a fresh copy
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: I would not use Nero, though, there are much better (native) apps
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: the relevance is this: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=152
[16:30] <Guest16209> Brasero and K3B haven't succeeded
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: and also, again, that I'd suggest other apps
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: well dvd video transcoding (and burning, too), is quite a complex process
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: I honestly wouldn't recommend it at all, this being the 21st century
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: but if you had to do it, I suggest using tovid
[16:31] <liquidAnger> is there a command to ignore these system messages of irc ... has joined, left etcc.
[16:32] <Eric^^> liquidAnger: global menu > settings > text events
[16:32] <reisio> liquidAnger: /help
[16:32] <vieira> Hello, how can I make a init script start after an upstart job?
[16:32] <reisio> liquidAnger: or ask #irssi
[16:32] <mbeierl> Tried installing kwallet and adding user to nopasswdlogin and still cannot log in to GUI in new ubuntustudio 14.04 install.\
[16:32] <liquidAnger> reisio: tnx
[16:32] <vieira> postfix seems to be stuck in the sysvinit days
[16:33] <derrzzaa> I have a load of NTFS drives, all with stuff I don't want to / can't format.  Is NTFS support sufficient enough to use Ubuntu / linux in general with these drives?
[16:33] <derrzzaa> or would I be walking down a road I'd later come to regret
[16:33] <Guest16209> reisio: I have no .wine directory
[16:34] <cfhowlett> derrzzaa you can use it, but I'd back up my back ups to a safe backup
[16:34] <derrzzaa> mmmm, I mean tbh the data isnt that important
[16:34] <daftykins> TomAstro: sorry i have no experience of that
[16:34] <derrzzaa> films etc, it's more the hassel I'm trying to save
[16:35] <derrzzaa> then again, I could just buy a 4TB drive and format them all to whatever file system is best to use on linux
[16:35] <Guest16209> BRB everyone
[16:35] <Guest16209> bye for now
[16:35] <derrzzaa> ext4* ?
[16:37] <yecril71pl> What is gnome-menu-edit?  I do not seem to have it
[16:38] <yecril71pl> Oops, retry: What is gmenu-simple-editor?  I do not seem to have it.
[16:39] <OerHeks> !info gmenu-simple-editor
[16:39] <liquidAnger> to hide system messages IRC http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages#irssi
[16:40] <genoobie> hey
[16:40] <genoobie> my ath5k is "blocked"
[16:41] <genoobie> rfkill list shows it as "hard blocked"
[16:41] <phoo> Hello!  How do I disable the middle mouse click menu in xfce4-terminal?  I want to keep middle mouse paste, but I often have the time when a new terminal opens in addition to the paste.
[16:41] <TJ-> genoobie: toggle the hardware radio switch
[16:41] <genoobie> TJ-, doesn't change the state
[16:42] <TJ-> genoobie: hmmm, is it one of those Fn+F2 types, or a physical slider on the side?
[16:42] <genoobie> no
[16:42] <genoobie> button at the top
[16:42] <genoobie> next to the power button
[16:42] <genoobie> I once had an issue with this
[16:42] <TJ-> genoobie: That's strange, usually they don't require key event support... what is the make/model of the laptop?
[16:42] <genoobie> used rfkill in seemingly random order
[16:43] <genoobie> cq50-105NR compaq
[16:45] <TJ-> genoobie: I think you need to add "nohwcrypt" to the module options for ath5k
[16:45] <genoobie> oh, hrm
[16:45] <genoobie> not really sure what that means (kind of new to this)
[16:45] <kdz> so without me havint to reinstall what can i do to fix a unable to mount /
[16:45] <genoobie> I know the ath5k is the driver
[16:46] <genoobie> not sure how to "add" that and reapply driver
[16:46] <TJ-> genoobie: try this: "sudo modprobe -r ath5k" then "lsmod | grep ath5k" ... if you get no 'ath5k' listed, good, go on and do "sudo modprobe ath5k nohwcrypt" then try the Wifi again
[16:46] <genoobie> okay
[16:47] <genoobie> TJ-, YES!
[16:47] <genoobie> wait
[16:47] <phoo> hm.  Never mind.  I think it's this mouse smashing the right button at the same time as the middle button.
[16:47] <genoobie> sweet both "unblocked!
[16:47] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, now we know the solution, you need to make it permanent in the system configuration
[16:47] <genoobie> how do I make that permanent
[16:47] <genoobie> nice, thanks
[16:48] <genoobie> what did you search or google to come up with that.
[16:48] <TJ-> genoobie: "echo "options ath5k nohwcrypt" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf"
[16:48] <TJ-> genoobie: long experience :)
[16:48] <genoobie> use all quotes?
[16:48] <genoobie> TJ-, thanks again for sharing your expertise
[16:49] <TJ-> genoobie: I surround the commands to type with double-quotes... everything inside those... you type
[16:49] <genoobie> do I need to sudo the echo command?
[16:49] <TJ-> genoobie: *everything* as I show it
[16:49] <genoobie> :) okay
[16:50] <alami> hello, i have append this www-data ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/asterisk -rx 'dialplan reload' to visudo
[16:50] <alami> so that www-data can excute this cmd, is that correct?
[16:50] <genoobie> TJ-, okay
[16:50] <genoobie> so that's permanent?
[16:50] <genoobie> what is tee?
[16:50] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes
[16:51] <TJ-> genoobie: "man tee"
[16:51] <genoobie> text editor?
[16:51] <genoobie> okay, that rocks, I'm going to reboot
[16:51] <TJ-> genoobie: It reads standard input, and writes it to standard output (the console) *and* a file
[16:53] <genoobie> okay
[16:53] <genoobie> didn't persist
[16:53] <genoobie> hwblock
[16:54] <TJ-> genoobie: Hmmm, maybe the file didn't get written correctly... lets check... "grep ath5k /etc/modprobe.d/*"
[16:56] <TJ-> genoobie: how many lines are returned by that command?
[16:57] <genoobie> TJ-, two lines are returned by that grep
[16:57] <TJ-> genoobie: can you tell me what each says?
[16:57] <genoobie> options ath5k nowecrypt
[16:57] <kdz> TJ- so im bcking up but i cannot backup my vm's cause of permissions, how do i change it
[16:57] <genoobie> then a commented line,"# which ath5k cannot recover. to prevent this ..."
[16:58] <genoobie> let me try those modprobes again
[16:58] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, so did you typo in IRC or does it really say "nowecrypt"
[16:59] <genoobie> typo in IRC
[16:59] <TJ-> genoobie: darn, that could have been an easy fix :)
[17:00] <genoobie> ugh
[17:00] <genoobie> why did it unblock one time but not the other
[17:00] <genoobie> let me tell you what I did
[17:01] <genoobie> I did "sudo modprobe -r ath5k"
[17:01] <genoobie> "sudo modprobe ath5k"
[17:01] <TJ-> genoobie: which removes the kernel module
[17:01] <genoobie> now both unblocked
[17:01] <TJ-> genoobie: which loads the kernel module :)
[17:01] <genoobie> and now it's unblocked
[17:01] <kirijaaas> привет
[17:02] <genoobie> TJ-, it's like the button has no effect at all
[17:02] <genoobie> doesn't turn it on or off
[17:02] <genoobie> I also had some rfkill unblock 0 0 in there
[17:02] <TJ-> genoobie: maybe it's a 'soft' button that just sends an event to the OS, but Linux doesn't know the event or how to handle it
[17:02] <genoobie> but I always did rfkill list and it always came up hard blocked until I did the modprobes
[17:02] <kirijaaas> hi gyest
[17:03] <TJ-> genoobie: Can't explain why the reboot loading of the ath5k module would leave it hardblocked, but a modprobe will work
[17:04] <TJ-> genoobie: I notice the ath5k module also has another parameter: "no_hw_rfkill_switch"
[17:04] <TJ-> genoobie: "no_hw_rfkill_switch:Ignore the GPIO RFKill switch state (bool)"
[17:04] <genoobie> yes yes yes
[17:04] <TJ-> genoobie: You could try using "no_hw_rfkill_switch=1"
[17:05] <genoobie> so how do I remove the line I placed in the .conf file using "tee"
[17:05] <genoobie> and put that in there instead
[17:05] <genoobie> and set it up so it's always on
[17:05] <TJ-> genoobie: "sudo sed -i 's/nohwcrypt/no_hw_rfkill_switch=1/' /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf"
[17:06] <genoobie> won't that leave the "nohwcrypt" line in there though?
[17:06] <genoobie> okay nevermind I trust you know what you're doing :)
[17:06] <TJ-> genoobie: It's a search-and-replace operation
[17:07] <TJ-> genoobie: s/find-this/replace-with-this/
[17:07] <genoobie> and that's the number 1 not the letter l
[17:07] <genoobie> I'm assuming 1 is true here
[17:07] <TJ-> genoobie: correct
[17:08] <genoobie> okay no output
[17:08] <TJ-> genoobie: none expected
[17:08] <TJ-> genoobie: "cat /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf"
[17:08] <genoobie> ugh
[17:08] <genoobie> hold a sec
[17:09] <genoobie> still the same, did not replace
[17:09] <genoobie> let me check the input again
[17:09] <Monotoko> Is there a hotkey I can use to toggle "Auto Hide Sidebar"?
[17:10] <genoobie> sudo sed -i 's/nohwcrypt/no_hw_rfkill_switch=1/' /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf
[17:10] <Monotoko> or move the sidebar to the other side...
[17:10] <Monotoko> either one
[17:11] <genoobie> TJ-, looks ok?
[17:11] <genoobie> should I just text edit with a gui?
[17:11] <TJ-> genoobie: Looks good but yes, you can edit it with a text editor too :)
[17:11] <Monotoko> I use synergy... so when it's switching between the left screen and right screen, the auto-show doesn't work...
[17:12] <genoobie> TJ-, there's only one line in ath5k.conf
[17:12] <genoobie> is that OK?
[17:12] <TJ-> genoobie: correct
[17:13] <TJ-> genoobie: "options ath5k no_hw_rfkill_switch=1"
[17:14] <genoobie> ugh
[17:14] <genoobie> cannot open file to write
[17:14] <hamilcart>
[17:14] <genoobie> must be some kind of permission in text edit
[17:14] <Monotoko> :(
[17:14] <Monotoko> should I be asking somewhere else?
[17:14] <genoobie> TJ-, any other way to change that line?
[17:14] <TJ-> genoobie: "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf"
[17:15] <genoobie> no output...
[17:15] <genoobie> although it asked for a password
[17:16] <hamilcart>
[17:16] <TJ-> genoobie: strange, you are using regular Ubuntu with Unity / Gnome aren't you?
[17:16] <genoobie> no
[17:16] <genoobie> that's probably why.
[17:17] <genoobie> let me just delete the file and echo that line again using tee
[17:17] <Monotoko> sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf
[17:17] <Monotoko> gives you a nice terminal based editor
[17:17] <Monotoko> doesn't rely on any of the pesky GUI's or it's dependancies...
[17:18] <TJ-> genoobie: much better idea, that :)
[17:18] <yecril71pl> How can I get a clock in my system tray in  Unity?
[17:19] <genoobie> looks good
[17:19] <genoobie> let me reboot
[17:19] <genoobie> TJ-, thanks again for all the help
[17:19] <genoobie> if it is hardblocked now I'll freak
[17:19] <genoobie> :)
[17:20] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: there should have been one there by default... top left corner?
[17:20] <yecril71pl> Yeah, the clock is in the screen shot, but I do not have it.
[17:21] <genoobie> TJ-, alright then, very close!
[17:21] <genoobie> both "unblocked"
[17:21] <niko> /28/21
[17:21] <Monotoko> You've never had it... or it's just vanished one day?
[17:21] <TJ-> genoobie: that sounds good
[17:21] <Monotoko> what's there instead?
[17:21] <yecril71pl> Never had it.
[17:21] <yecril71pl> Also, my Dash was empty; I had to install lenses
[17:21] <yecril71pl> What am I missing to get the clock?
[17:21] <Monotoko> strange... what did you install from?
[17:21] <genoobie> ugh, okay
[17:22] <genoobie> wlan0 shows up in ifconfig
[17:22] <yecril71pl> Monotoko: I installed lenses from the Software Center.
[17:22] <genoobie> brb
[17:22] <jamesbrown_> hi guys. how do give a folder a read, write and executable right to the current user?
[17:23] <pbx> jamesbrown_, sudo chmod u+rwx <user>
[17:23] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: I mean ubuntu itself... it should all be installed with the regular install DVD
[17:23] <yecril71pl> It was a server, now turned to be a desktop
[17:24] <yecril71pl> I need to fix things so that they work
[17:24] <jamesbrown_> pbx will that make all folders and files rwx?
[17:24] <genoobie> TJ-, cannot find the gui to configure the network
[17:24] <genoobie> but I'll work on that
[17:24] <pbx> jamesbrown_, sorry, my example was wrong
[17:24] <genoobie> TJ-, thanks mucho for the help again
[17:24] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: try this: sudo apt-get install indicator-datetime
[17:24] <TJ-> genoobie: glad you got it sorted
[17:26] <ses1984> i'm not sure why this is happening, but it if i try to paste a bunch of commands into gnome terminal, and one of those commands is something like `apt-get -fy upgrade`, it only gets that far and the rest of the pasted commands do not execute or show up in my history
[17:26] <yecril71pl> Monotoko: thanks :-)
[17:26] <pbx> jamesbrown_, :  sudo chmod u+rwx -R <path>
[17:26] <ses1984> http://dpaste.com/1WEWFDW
[17:26] <pbx> ses1984, if one of the commands you run asks for keyboard input, it will eat input from your paste
[17:26] <yecril71pl> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[17:27] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module
[17:27] <sheap> anyone know what this error is? I don't have "debconf-apt-from" in pkgsel anywhere so I'm kinda confused http://paste.ubuntu.com/7843007/
[17:27] <jamesbrown_> also i have havin issues upgradin to ubunu 14
[17:27] <Monotoko> not sure why you're missing so many dependancies
[17:27] <ses1984> pbx but doesn't apt-get -fy tell apt-get to not ask for keyboard input? you're saying "force yes"  right?
[17:27] <bsdbandit> anyone using the apt-get module in python
[17:27] <bsdbandit> ??
[17:28] <yecril71pl> Monotoko: Not sure either; shouldn't the Software Center detect this?
[17:28] <ses1984> pbx oh i have the -f option wrong... but the -y should cover it i think
[17:28] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: is this an upgrade or a new install?
[17:28] <pbx> ses1984, i believe so. but something reading keyboard input seems the likeliest cause of the problem
[17:29] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: either way... it should have sorted all this when you installed Ubuntu
[17:29] <potatoes_> is there a good way to upgrade one EOL release to another EOL release
[17:29] <potatoes_> I am trying to go from 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04
[17:29] <yecril71pl> Monotoko: I did not install Ubuntu; I inherited it.
[17:30] <potatoes_> but the upgrade path is breaking
[17:30] <potatoes_> rather badly :)
[17:30] <pbx> ses1984, might be worth trying in another terminal (e.g. xterm) to see whether it's something about the way gnome term deals with pasted text and long delays
[17:30] <ses1984> pbx when i test these commands interactively and enter them one a time, they never ask for keyboard input, but it seems like they do eat further inputs anyway
[17:30] <ses1984> thanks
[17:30] <TJ-> potatoes_: If you can persuade the upgrade tools to use "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/" instead of "http://archive.ubuntu.com/", yes
[17:30] <sheap> is it just for the progress bar?
[17:30] <genoobie> ugh
[17:30] <genoobie> stuck stuck stuck
[17:30] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: Ah... sounds fun, Software Center is supposed to be simple, but it borks when things aren't installed in various places, apt-get does a much better job telling you what's missing etc
[17:30] <TJ-> genoobie: is it still hard-blocked?
[17:31] <potatoes_> TJ- Ya, I have unfortunately that's a no go
[17:31] <potatoes_> TJ- I modified the source myself and changed to old-releases and it breaks 7 different ways :P
[17:31] <baegle1> Struggling to get networkmanager to behave
[17:31] <genoobie> TJ-, nope
[17:31] <TJ-> potatoes_: Never tried that amount of pain myself :)
[17:32] <TJ-> genoobie: *phew* :)
[17:32] <baegle1> I have multiple profiles defined for the same SSID but I can't select the profiles, I can only select the SSID
[17:32] <potatoes_> TJ- Honestly it might just be easier to setup a new machine
[17:32] <baegle1> How do I tell NetworkManager to use a specific profile in this situation?
[17:32] <genoobie> I think I screwed something up
[17:33] <genoobie> i tried nm-applet
[17:33] <genoobie> to get the gui in the taskbar
[17:33] <genoobie> and I think I accidentally set up an ad-hoc network on this laptop
[17:33] <genoobie> so now I can't find the wireless but there is the ad-hoc
[17:34] <Monotoko> genoobie: what does ifconfig say?
[17:35] <genoobie> ifconfig lists eth0, lo, wlan0
[17:36] <Monotoko> genoobie: does wlan0 have an IP address or anything?
[17:36] <TJ-> genoobie: "nmcli con list"
[17:36] <Monotoko> nmcli :o
[17:36] <genoobie> Monotoko, no
[17:36] <genoobie> only one wired connection
[17:37] <genoobie> but like I said, I think I set up an "ad-hoc" wireless
[17:37] <genoobie> now I cannot delete it from the gui interface.
[17:37] <genoobie> ugh
[17:37] <genoobie> doesn't seem like the card is active yet
[17:37] <Monotoko> try what TJ- said... I forgot all about nmcli
[17:38] <genoobie> TJ-, only one connection listed
[17:39] <genoobie> so I used the nm-applet, accidentally created a wifi network
[17:39] <ses1984> pbx i tried it in xterm and it didn't work. also i noticed that sometimes apt-get update can take longer than apt-get -y upgrade and it always continues after apt-get update
[17:40] <Monotoko> genoobie: you might have created it... but I don't think you're connected to it
[17:40] <Monotoko> so it shouldn't matter
[17:40] <jamesbrown_> pbx it didnt work sudo chmod u+rwx -R obproject
[17:40] <genoobie> yes, but it's a bit confusing because it has the same name as the wireless I intend to connect to
[17:40] <TJ-> genoobie: does "nmcli" show the connection you want to remove?
[17:40] <genoobie> no
[17:40] <genoobie> TJ-, maybe a reboot?
[17:41] <TJ-> genoobie: no, nmcli will show system and user connections
[17:41] <AgitProp> does the software updater provide anything different than apt-get dist-upgrade ??
[17:41] <genoobie> TJ-, wireless is not working still
[17:41] <TJ-> genoobie: unlike Windows, Linux rarely needs a reboot... at most a service restart or log-out/log-in
[17:41] <genoobie> but the adapter is "up" so to speak
[17:41] <potatoes_> TJ- Hah, I got it to work, lets see how badly things break during the update process :)
[17:41] <genoobie> TJ-, that's a windows habit I guess
[17:41] <TJ-> genoobie: Do you see the connection when you run "nm-applet" ?
[17:41] <Monotoko> AgitProp: not really... apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:42] <Monotoko> it's just nice to have a GUI version
[17:42] <TJ-> genoobie: is the existing connection you see, the Adhoc one? If so, why not just edit it ?
[17:43] <genoobie> TJ-, it's gone now after the reboot
[17:43] <genoobie> here's the thing
[17:43] <jamesbrown_> hi guys. how do give a folder a read, write and executable right to the current user?
[17:43] <genoobie> how do I know if the wlan0 is actively seeking out networks?
[17:43] <jamesbrown_> hi guys. how do give  folder a read, write and executable right to the current user?
[17:43] <jamesbrown_> sorry about that
[17:44] <renebarbosa> chmod 700 folder jamesbrown_
[17:44] <renebarbosa> 700 means -rwx------
[17:44] <TJ-> genoobie: "tail -f /var/log/syslog"
[17:44] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa i need all files and sub folders as well
[17:44] <renebarbosa> chmod 700 folder jamesbrown_
[17:44] <renebarbosa> ops
[17:44] <zerowaitstate> alternatively, chmod -R u+rwx <username> foldername
[17:45] <renebarbosa> find . -type d -exec chmod 700 {} \;
[17:45] <renebarbosa> be careful with it
[17:45] <zerowaitstate> adding -R makes it recursive
[17:45] <genoobie> TJ-, lost of output
[17:45] <genoobie> bunch of host name not found outpuit
[17:45] <genoobie> TJ-, *output
[17:45] <TJ-> genial: Good :) you should see some wpa_supplicant messages as it scans the network
[17:46] <genoobie> TJ-, none to be found
[17:46] <genoobie> so the card appears to be unblocked but not necessarily active
[17:48] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa how do you change a folder and all his files and subfolder group? i need to change everything in obproject folder from james to www-data
[17:49] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, find . -type d -exec chown www-data: {} \;
[17:49] <Stanley_> When you install something from source, (make install), does it install it in the directory you're currently in?
[17:49] <TJ-> genoobie: "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"
[17:49] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, just make sure to run it from your projects directory, not / , /home or something like that
[17:50] <tonyg_> i'm trying to update initrd.img for my nfs boots of ubuntu 14.04. i build initrd with the same conf and modules as i did before, but for some reason with the new build i get ipconfig: eth0: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device ipconfig: /tmp/net-eth0.conf: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device ipconfig: no devices to configure. i'm upgrading from 3.8.0-19 to 3.13.0-32 does anybody have any ideas?
[17:50] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa okay thanks
[17:50] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, you're welcome
[17:51] <compdoc> tonyg_, its 'ifconfig'  , no?
[17:52] <tonyg_> no, it says ipconfig
[17:52] <genoobie> no scan results
[17:52] <genoobie> TJ-, I mean no scan results
[17:53] <TJ-> genoobie: OK... maybe the adapter in the PC and the wireless access point are on different frequency bands?
[17:53] <genoobie> TJ-, um, not likely though
[17:53] <genoobie> wireless g router
[17:53] <genoobie> older lapton
[17:53] <genoobie> that has a "g"
[17:53] <genoobie> but maybe there's a config thing I am missing
[17:53] <genoobie> tempted to install ubuntu and use lde
[17:54] <genoobie> versus lubuntu
[17:54] <TJ-> genoobie: I'm thinking things like regulatory domain ... USA should operate with 11 channels... if the adapter was doing that but the WAP was on Channel 13 ... no connection
[17:54] <genoobie> TJ-, this adapter used to work (on lubuntu 11)
[17:54] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, but WAPs often change channels ... are you able to confirm which channel it is currently using?
[17:54] <genoobie> TJ-, so I'm not really sure.
[17:55] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa my project is set up like this. projects<main folder> obproject<subfolder> everything is in obproject
[17:55] <TJ-> genoobie: I'm trying to eliminate possibilities here so you don't go chasing the wrong cause
[17:55] <genoobie> you mean the card? Or do you mean the router?
[17:55] <genoobie> not quite sure how to execute that for the card
[17:55] <TJ-> genoobie: The WAP router, its the thing that decides which channel to operate on, and modern WAPs change channels if they detect local interference from other Wifi WAPs
[17:56] <genoobie> okay, well it's present on channel 2
[17:56] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, that is good, no chance of missing it
[17:56] <genoobie> there are 13 channels available at the WAP
[17:56] <genoobie> I see
[17:57] <TJ-> genoobie: So, it seems like the driver might be issue. I'm going to suggest adding back "nohwcrypt" in *addition* to the existing setting
[17:58] <AasIew> just testing
[17:59] <genoobie> TJ-, okay will add that line
[17:59] <genoobie> erm...
[17:59] <genoobie> just a sec
[18:00] <TJ-> genoobie: by the way, I think "leafpad" is the gUI text editor you need.
[18:00] <genoobie> TJ-, have leafpad but it won't save
[18:01] <genoobie> echo "options ath5k nohwcrypt" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf
[18:01] <potatoes_> well 11.10 was a success
[18:01] <TJ-> genoobie: "gksudo leafpad" then open the file manually?
[18:01] <genoobie> TJ-, would that add a line?
[18:01] <potatoes_> now time to go to 12.04 :)
[18:01] <TJ-> genoobie: That would "-a" *append* a line
[18:02] <genoobie> TJ-, is this all one line?
[18:02] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa http://pastebin.com/PTM9R6EV
[18:02] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes just add the additional option to the end of the line
[18:02] <genoobie> "options ath5k no_hw_rfkill_switch=1 nohwcrypt"
[18:03] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, sorry I'm at office now. I don't have web access allowed here.
[18:03] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, send it to me via PM
[18:03] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa chown: changing ownership of ‘./valet/ckeditor/samples/assets/inlineall’: Operation not permitted
[18:03] <genoobie> TJ-, then sudo modprobe -r ath5k | sudo modprobe ath5k?
[18:04] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, pm me
[18:04] <renebarbosa> =)
[18:04] <jamesbrown_> i got that error message when i ran find . -type d -exec chown www-data: {} \;
[18:04] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes
[18:05] <genoobie> okay, no scan results
[18:05] <genoobie> argh
[18:05] <genoobie> but at least it's flashing when I do that
[18:05] <genoobie> TJ-, this is ridiculous, I appreciate your patience
[18:07] <Blaster> I am having a really annoying issue, and I am not sure if it's Ubuntu or hardware related.
[18:07] <TJ-> genoobie: sometimes I've found it needs multiple scans to find networks, but it won't find any 'hidden' networks - is your WiFi SSID hidden?
[18:07] <Blaster> When I click something and drag with my mouse, somehow it unclicks, even though I am holding the mouse button down.
[18:07] <genoobie> TJ-, no
[18:07] <jeffreylevesque> could someone assist me install ubuntu properly?
[18:08] <genoobie> anything obvious I could look for in ifconfig?
[18:08] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, I'm at a bit of a loss here now. Does that PC have an Ethernet connection you can use too?
[18:08] <genoobie> jeffreylevesque, what do you need?
[18:08] <genoobie> TJ-, yes
[18:08] <genoobie> but only temporarily
[18:08] <jeffreylevesque> I'm not sure if you can read through - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/351
[18:08] <TJ-> genoobie: Could you pastebin two files for me? "/var/log/dmesg" and "/var/log/syslog" (the latter may be quite big by now)
[18:08] <jeffreylevesque> but, apparently it didn't install correctly, it's not even mounted
[18:09] <genoobie> TJ-, will do
[18:09] <jeffreylevesque> and I can't boot into my original windows OS
[18:09] <pbx> ses1984, thanks for using dpaste BTW :)
[18:09] <genoobie> TJ-, was looking maybe it need nohwcrypt=Y
[18:10] <TJ-> genoobie: boolean ... so it might need "nohwcrypt=1"
[18:10] <genoobie> oh, hrm
[18:10] <genoobie> brb
[18:12] <jeffreylevesque> can I delete my partition / attempt to install ubuntu, and try again?
[18:12] <jeffreylevesque> I just want to ensure that my windows partition is intact
[18:12] <genoobie> nah, no good, will pastebin in a min
[18:16] <Glycan> Hi. How can I bind a bash command to a key combination?
[18:18] <kermin_hermin> Hi. Has anyone noticed that the Ubuntu AMI's on Amazon AWS EC2 have been deregistered?
[18:19] <genoobie> TJ- are you still here?
[18:20] <genoobie> TJ- here is the dmesg pastebin
[18:21] <genoobie> oh crus
[18:21] <genoobie> crud
[18:21] <genoobie> TJ- isn't here any more
[18:22] <grobe0ba> kermin_hermin, i used them yesterday.
[18:22] <grobe0ba> at least, the PV 14.04 SSD one
[18:24] <kermin_hermin> grobe0ba: Trying 14.04 LTS ami-a6926dce and it's unavailable
[18:24] <kermin_hermin> PV as well
[18:24] <grobe0ba> they've been replaced with newer ones
[18:25] <genoobie> ugh, okay, I've been to hell and back with my atheros wireless and I cannot get it working
[18:25] <grobe0ba> ami-80778be8
[18:25] <grobe0ba> for the PV, ami-a6926dce for HVM
[18:25] <eoin> how big should my swap partition be?
[18:25] <sheap> could an ubuntu wizard/witch help me with this :( http://askubuntu.com/questions/501678/tasksel-error-in-14-04-preseed
[18:26] <grobe0ba> eoin, it all depends on what you're using your system for
[18:26] <eoin> or do i even need one?
[18:26] <spigot> eoin: you want one, because without it, ubuntu by default will fill the memory and randomly kill a process when its full
[18:26] <kermin_hermin> grobe0ba: Oh I see - amazon hasn't updated their "suggested" ubuntu AMI link - and the old one is giving perms errors trying to use it
[18:26] <kermin_hermin> grobe0ba: Is there a central place to see when these are released?
[18:26] <d3xter> hey guys
[18:26] <grobe0ba> kermin_hermin, those are both on the initial launch instance list
[18:27] <grobe0ba> as for a centralized location, i've no clue
[18:27] <eoin> so what should i set it to
[18:27] <d3xter> is it normal, that gddrescue stops rescuing data after the first read error?
[18:27] <grobe0ba> like i said though, those are both on my quick start list
[18:27] <kermin_hermin> The "quick start" for mine is the old ones, huh
[18:27] <genoobie> brb
[18:27] <spigot> eoin: whats your total system RAM? old standard was RAMx2 and that's still not a bad idea. it certainly doesn't need to be any larger.
[18:27] <mmorey> does anyone here have experience with the maintenance shell?
[18:27] <grobe0ba> mmorey, what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:27] <eoin> 8gb
[18:28] <grobe0ba> eoin, i'd say 4Gb then
[18:28] <grobe0ba> unless you plan on doing really memory intensive stuff
[18:28] <eoin> ok thanks
[18:29] <spigot> mmorey: it's basically a root shell before ubuntu finishes loading. did you get dumped into it while trying to boot normally?
[18:29] <kermin_hermin> grobe0ba: Can you give me the AMI for the latest 14.04 LTS in HVM mode?
[18:29] <kermin_hermin> Still wrong for me
[18:30] <grobe0ba> ami-a6926dce
[18:30] <grobe0ba> what zone are you in?
[18:30] <grobe0ba> i'm operating in us-east-1
[18:30] <Glycan> Is there any simple way to see what programs are capturing keystrokes?
[18:30] <grobe0ba> so it is very likely different between them
[18:30] <pbx> no
[18:30] <kermin_hermin> same, us-e-1
[18:30] <d3xter> is it normal, that gddrescue stops "rescuing" data after the first read error?
[18:30] <Glycan> pbx: was that to me?
[18:30] <jmonreal> After updating yesterday my trusty box, I no longer could use my hdmi screen. When running xrandr I only get LVDS, VGA connected, but HDMI or DP shows disconnected
[18:31] <jmonreal> I've been googling but without any luck
[18:31] <reisio> d3xter: ddrescue tries to continue by default if it encounters and error, but I doubt that means it can always continue or always even has anything to continue with given any type of error
[18:31] <reisio> an* error
[18:31] <reisio> d3xter: if you want saner output, use the normal, non-gui 'ddrescue'
[18:31] <jmonreal> what can I start looking to see what could be the problem?
[18:31] <d3xter> reisio: i'm using the gnu ddresuce :)
[18:32] <d3xter> not a bling bling gui ^^
[18:32] <grobe0ba> pastebin the output
[18:32] <reisio> ah
[18:32] <reisio> either it can continue or it can't
[18:32] <d3xter> reisio: it is still running and "rescuing" data, but the size of the image hasn't changed for like 20 minutes
[18:32] <reisio> d3xter: that doesn't sound abnormal, if there are problems with the device
[18:32] <grobe0ba> so, it's trying really hard, but it's kind of stuck
[18:32] <grobe0ba> let it go for a while
[18:32] <grobe0ba> and by a while, i mean hours
[18:33] <reisio> what is usually done is you run it and tell it not to try very hard first
[18:33] <reisio> then run again trying hard
[18:33] <reisio> that way you waste less time
[18:33] <grobe0ba> if the device is damaged, stop, put it in the freezer for a couple of hours
[18:33] <grobe0ba> then try again
[18:33] <grobe0ba> works magic, sometimes
[18:33] <d3xter> ok thanks guys, will let it run till tomorrow and see if it worked :)
[18:34] <jmonreal> anyone??
[18:34] <grobe0ba> try your xorg logs
[18:34] <reisio> d3xter: ddrescue -n, then again with -d -r1
[18:34] <jmonreal> grobe0ba: where are they?
[18:34] <grobe0ba>  /var/log/xorg.log
[18:35] <Glycan> Hi, can someone help me out with keybindings?
[18:36] <d3xter> reisio: should i restart this attemt with -n?
[18:36] <d3xter> s/attemt/attempt/
[18:36] <Glycan> I'm trying to run xbindkeys on lubuntu, but it says that some other program is capturing it's keys
[18:36] <pbx> Glycan, yes, sorry
[18:36] <Glycan> sorry?
[18:36] <reisio> d3xter: I would do -n first, then -d -r1
[18:36] <reisio> d3xter: but...
[18:37] <reisio> it would have to be very important data
[18:37] <reisio> (which for some reason I never backed up)
[18:37] <grobe0ba> what is a 'back up'?
[18:37] <reisio> you might luck out and get the important data in the readable bits, from just -n
[18:37] <grobe0ba> :P
[18:37] <reisio> grobe0ba: :p
[18:37] <pbx> Glycan, you asked if my "no" above was to you, it was... but now, say more. share us the exact text or a screen cap of the dialog with the error message
[18:37] <jamesbrown_> how do i put a user into a group?
[18:37] <reisio> jamesbrown_: gpasswd
[18:38] <jamesbrown_> reisio what?
[18:38] <mmorey> spigot:almost. there was a segmentation fault during start-up of the maintenance shell. ubuntu bug?
[18:38] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, run gpasswd
[18:38] <grobe0ba> or edit /etc/group
[18:38] <grobe0ba> if you don't know what you're doing (which it seems you dont), run gpasswd
[18:38] <grobe0ba> and read man 5 group
[18:39] <jamesbrown_> grobe0ba in terminal just run it gpasswd
[18:39] <d3xter> reisio: those are important data on a 6 year old laptop with no backup :P
[18:39] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, sure
[18:39] <d3xter> reisio: but its not my notebook, so :D
[18:39] <jamesbrown_> grobe0ba -a www-data
[18:40] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, i'm honestly not familiar with gpasswd. i don't use a gui for anything
[18:40] <aramus_> Hello, I used DD to clone my harddrive and now the original will only boot if the cloned drive is in
[18:40] <Glycan> pbx: https://gist.github.com/Glycan/f21d997308d3f9828c69
[18:40] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, usermod -a -G www-data username should do the trick
[18:40] <mmorey> grobe0ba: testing to see what happens when data disk replaced, to simulate disk failure.
[18:40] <syntroPi> where can i configure the font size of gdm? it displays HUGE fonts which just looks ugly
[18:42] <grobe0ba> mmorey, in which case you'll get a very minimal terminal from busybox
[18:42] <jamesbrown_> grobe0ba i did gpasswd -a james www-daa
[18:42] <jamesbrown_> sudo  gpasswd -a james www-daa
[18:42] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, like i said, i've never used gpasswd
[18:42] <mmorey> grobe0ba, except there's a segmentation fault and the system halts.
[18:43] <grobe0ba> strange
[18:43] <grobe0ba> both the kernel and initrd are available, correct?
[18:43] <d3xter> reisio: does the second run check all sectors or only the bad ones?
[18:43] <jamesbrown_>  grobe0ba usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.
[18:44] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, must be run as root
[18:44] <grobe0ba> so, sudo usermod -a -G www-data username
[18:44] <mmorey> grobe0ba: yes, root partition, swap partition are intact. All /dev/sda partitions mounted. after entering root password, segmentation fault observed.
[18:44] <grobe0ba> mmorey, any idea what is attempting to execute usermod? 'cause that shouldn't happen during a boot
[18:46] <grobe0ba> also, since you're coming up single user, it will not lock
[18:46] <mmorey> grobe0ba, i'm sorry, what usermod? it was the maintenance shell attempting to run.
[18:46] <grobe0ba> woops
[18:46] <grobe0ba> sorry, wrong shenanigans
[18:46] <grobe0ba> got myself confused
[18:46] <mmorey> grobe0ba, no problem.
[18:46] <grobe0ba> can you tell exactly what is segfaulting?
[18:46] <jamesbrown_> am having too many issues today
[18:47] <mmorey> grobe0ba, i cannot tell b/c i cannot log in, have no command prompt and other vt are not up.
[18:47] <grobe0ba> so, you're not even getting a terminal?
[18:47] <jamesbrown_> i dont have a rwx permission on a folder ever thought i have added myself to the folder group
[18:47] <grobe0ba> i'd suggest putting all your drives back in and booting, then look at the logs
[18:47] <mmorey> grobe0ba, no, segmentation fault, newline, blinking cursor, halted.
[18:47] <grobe0ba> there's nothing we can do without those
[18:48] <jamesbrown_> am switching to windows
[18:48] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, you have to set the correct permissions
[18:48] <mmorey> grobe0ba, our sales engineers are confused by the experience and it looks buggy.
[18:48] <grobe0ba> it looks buggy to me too
[18:48] <jamesbrown_> grobe0ba i have try everything and ask so many questions toda
[18:48] <grobe0ba> but there isn't shit i can do without logs
[18:48] <jamesbrown_> and nothing seems to work
[18:49] <jamesbrown_> what log i need?
[18:49] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, basic understanding of a system must be had before being able to put it into production
[18:49] <jamesbrown_> u
[18:49] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, not you
[18:49] <grobe0ba> you don't need a log
[18:49] <mmorey> grobe0ba, i have advised sales engineer that the work-around is to boot a live distro from cd-rom and recreate the data disk.
[18:49] <grobe0ba> mmorey, sounds like a plan to me
[18:49] <grobe0ba> well, time for me to go home for the day
[18:49] <mmorey> grobe0ba, but my boss wants to know if there's a bug in ubuntu and if it will be fixed.
[18:49] <grobe0ba> mmorey, i don't represent ubuntu
[18:50] <grobe0ba> i barely represent ubuntu
[18:50] <grobe0ba> recreate the drive, get it working again
[18:50] <grobe0ba> check the logs
[18:50] <grobe0ba> file a PR
[18:50] <mmorey> grobe0ba, i know. how do i report to volunteer maintainer?
[18:50] <grobe0ba> *barely use
[18:50] <grobe0ba> mmorey, file a PR
[18:50] <coreder_> how do I get the menu-bar back in gnome-terminal?
[18:50] <mmorey> grobe0ba, okay, a problem report. roger that. will do.
[18:50] <grobe0ba> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[18:50] <coreder_> I don't see it anymore.
[18:50] <pbx> Glycan, i  don't think this is something you can solve with a tool. sounds like the key combos xbindkeys wants to use are already set by something else. may be tedious figuring out what
[18:51] <mmorey> grobe0ba, thanks.
[18:51] <grobe0ba> np
[18:51] <grobe0ba> sorry i couldn't be of more use
FreeBSD is awesomesauce though. You might look at moving to it</shamelessplug>
[18:52]  * grobe0ba gone. going home from work
[18:54] <jamesbrown_> when i try to updrade ubuntu i get "could not determine the update"
[18:54] <jamesbrown_>  An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[18:55] <ikonia> jamesbrown_: normally that comes down to either a.) dependency conflicts b.) no internet connection
[18:55] <jamesbrown_> ikonia its a because i have b
[18:56] <jamesbrown_> ikonia wha should i do?
[18:56] <ikonia> you have no internet connection ?
[18:56] <jamesbrown_> no i said i have b so it has to be a
[18:56] <pbx> jamesbrown_, what specific command are you typing?
[18:56] <jamesbrown_> pbx am using th GUI
[19:00] <linux_dr> I appear to have shot myself in the foot: I'm running 14.04 with Unity and the screen lock functionality is suddenly broken (it worked sometime yesterday)  <Clt>+<Alt>+L failed to do nothing earlier today, but now it seems to be restarting the window manager. (Screen flickers like an X restart, but all windows remain intact). I haven't done this in a while.  I wasn't aware i'd updated anything, but its totally possible. :o
[19:03] <ses1984> i'm not sure why this is happening, but it if i try to paste a bunch of commands into gnome terminal, and one of those commands is something like `apt-get -fy upgrade`, it only gets that far and the rest of the pasted commands do not execute or show up in my history
[19:03] <ses1984> http://dpaste.com/1WEWFDW
[19:04] <compdoc> does anyone have vncserver working with Ubuntu with the Unity desktop?
[19:04] <jamesbrown_> pbx what command should i run?
[19:04] <ses1984> apt-get -y should assume yes whenever it would normally wait for keyboard input, but it's eating keyboard input/further pasted lines, anyway, when i don't think it should. i don't know why it's behaving the way it is
[19:04] <linux_dr> FYI, I've been away from Linux desktop for a while, but I've been running Linux in a desktop and server capacity since '96
[19:06] <arsen> presumably lock-screen is just invoke-screensaver, linux_dr - does the screensaver work ok?
[19:07] <linux_dr> arsen, not sure which executable it's supposed to be running...
[19:07] <linux_dr> happy to try launching it manually...
[19:07] <jamesbrown_> whats the command to upgrade from 13.10 to 14?
[19:07] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | jamesbrown_
[19:08] <linux_dr> arsen, I have been trying ,unsuccessfully, trying to install "Drawers" for Unity Launcher, and that has been causing some python failures, but still trying to track those down.
[19:08] <FuzzyHarpyBug> I'm trying to connect Dreamweaver to an apache2 server on a ubuntu 14.04 vps using public key auth. From what I've read I should just be able to do this with sftp, but I can't figure out how to send the private key from my client for the auth.
[19:09] <NNNNNN> buonasera
[19:09] <NNNNNN> !list
[19:09] <jamesbrown_> bazhang lol am goign back to windows D
[19:10] <linux_dr> ubottu: we can send them the URL to a Ubuntu torrent... ;-) lol
[19:10] <FuzzyHarpyBug> never just use only one OS james... lol
[19:11]  * linux_dr lols
[19:12] <alisa> sera
[19:12] <jmonreal> grobe0ba: It helped me to show the hdmi, dp "connected", but they wont display screen on the monitor, but only extends the laptop one inside itself. When I connect the vga cable it appears by itself and with all the modelines available.
[19:12] <alisa> qualcuno che mi spieghi che si fa qui?
[19:12] <jmonreal> Its really odd why it changed from one moment to other
[19:12] <FuzzyHarpyBug> Someone told me I should try setting up mod_dav first, but I'm not sure what end connection type I'm working tword with that...
[19:13] <linux_dr> Hmm... so do I start digging into the Unity source to find how and what the screen lock key gets bound to? or can anyone make a better suggestion?
[19:14] <trism> linux_dr: I believe it just calls org.gnome.ScreenSaver.Lock over dbus
[19:14] <linux_dr> Unity is closed source? (faceplam)
[19:16] <Pici> linux_dr: no one said that.
[19:16] <trism> linux_dr: no, the source is at lp:unity in bzr https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk (or you could: apt-get source unity; to get the current source package)
[19:16] <linux_dr> lol... sorry... wrong Unity... I was looking at a gaming engine...
[19:22] <rekt> t
[19:32] <DF3D2> Having a problem that I can't seem to figure out. in /var/log/syslog I'm getting a ton of ATA reset errors, like a disk is going bad. I'm not sure how to run fsck on most of my disks. Root / is EXT4 on a 120gb ssd. "storage" is a zfs zpool array with 2x 1tb drives. "storage2" is a zfs zpool array w/ 2x 3tb drives.
[19:33] <DF3D2> http://pastebin.com/PaBbR9hi is my /var/log/syslog info
[19:33] <DF3D2> fsck on / was clean
[19:34] <Jeffrey_f> DF3D2: Get GSmartControl and run the tests on the drive.
[19:34] <hashworks> Anyone got an idea why this cronjob isn't working? In my bash shell it runs as expected: http://pastebin.com/jtEzDNaT
[19:35] <DF3D2> Jeffrey_f: Yeah i'm gonna have to run on all of the zfs drives I guess.
[19:35] <drdozer> hi - I need to set up a secure ftp server, but found that vsftpd won't work for me - what should I try next?
[19:37] <DF3D2> hmm It says "test interrupted" Host reset.
[19:39] <DF3D2> Okay so one of my 3TB drives passed the short test, the other one just says host reset I guess maybe the drive is dead or a bad cable/sata port on the mobo?
[19:39] <genoobie> okay uncle
[19:40] <area51pilot> anyone know of WiDi working in Ubuntu.  I dont see any updated work on Miracle (Miracast project)
[19:41] <DF3D2> hmm now both 3tb have pased the short test
[19:41] <DF3D2> this is very odd
[19:43] <genoobie> okay
[19:43] <genoobie> I've been trying to solve a wifi problem for a few hours now
[19:44] <Jeffrey_f> DF3D2: try reseating the cables to the drives (system powered off of course)  If one drive still gives you trouble, swap the data cables, if the swapped cable also gives trouble, you know it is now a cable..........otherwise, it could just be a spotty connection which could be fixed by a reseat
[19:44] <area51pilot> genoobie, what problem
[19:44] <DF3D2> Jeffrey_f: Yeah I'm gonna have to open it up and look. Nothing should have come loose but stuff happens I guess.
[19:44] <genoobie> atheros wireless adapter is not working
[19:44] <genoobie> lubuntu
[19:46] <area51pilot> genoobie, adapter model?
[19:47] <Mayumi> so i'm trying to install php5 without apache being installed with it ( i want to use nginx )
[19:47] <Glycan> Hi, my home and end keys don't work in libreoffice, how might I go about debugging this/
[19:47] <Mayumi> is that even possible?
[19:47] <Jeffrey_f> DF3D2: I've had cables walk out of a connector on a system that was never physically touched for over a year.......heating and cooling can walk a cable out
[19:47] <Glycan> ?
[19:47] <genoobie> area51pilot, Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:001c] (rev 01)
[19:47] <Mayumi> (dem depends)
[19:47] <DF3D2> Jeffrey_f: I guess the easiest way till be to shut down the system, and then boot it up with only one drive connected at a time until I start seeing the errors in dmesg again.
[19:47] <Glycan> (or in any other program for that matter)
[19:49] <area51pilot> genoobie,  try this command and see if it works: sudo rfkill unblock all
[19:49] <Jeffrey_f> DF3D2: just pull and reconnect for now...if the problem goes away, then it is fixed......leave the more aggressive approach if the problem doesn't resolve......simple usually works
[19:50] <genoobie> area51pilot, sudo rfkill list shows all unblocked
[19:50] <DF3D2> Jeffrey_f: Yeah I just shut it down, about to look for "obvious" problems
[19:50] <genoobie> area51pilot, it certainly was a problem before
[19:51] <area51pilot> genoobie, anything change recently?
[19:51] <genoobie> well, area51pilot this is a new install
[19:51] <genoobie> area51pilot, but when I was running 11 it was working then
[19:53] <TBotNik> All: Have a php script using "fwrite" to auto edit some files, but always get "permissions denied" or "is not writable" on the files.  I read the files with "ls -al" and all permissions are 775 with owner being user:users for user:group.
[19:53] <syntroPi> How can i change the resolution for GDM in Ubuntu 14.04 x64 Gnome Edition with nvidia-331 and Gnome 3.10 installed? ... getting really frustrated with wasting time
[19:53] <area51pilot> genoobie, when you pull the driver list is it using the correct drivers?
[19:54] <TBotNik> How do I change these to write from my php script?
[19:56] <TBotNik> All: Repeating: Have a php script using "fwrite" to auto edit some files, but always get "permissions denied" or "is not writable" on the files.  I read the files with "ls -al" and all permissions are 775 with owner being user:users for user:group. How do I change these to write from my php script?
[19:56] <sheap> anyone? :'( http://askubuntu.com/questions/501678/tasksel-error-in-14-04-preseed
[19:57] <ikonia> TBotNik: how is the script being executed
[19:57] <paulcoyote> Hi, greetings from Ecuador
[19:57] <TBotNik> ikonia: I'm running in both cli and browser.  Will be all cli when I finish!
[19:58] <newbieZombi> hi
[19:58] <ikonia> TBotNik: how are you executing it from the browser ?
[19:58] <genoobie> well, it's using ath5k
[19:58] <TBotNik> ikonia: Under localhost
[19:58] <newbieZombi> do somebody knows how to use mysql?
[19:58] <newbieZombi> and php
[19:59] <genoobie> ugh
[19:59] <newbieZombi> I have problem
[19:59] <TBotNik> newbieZombi: Sure it's easy!
[19:59] <paulcoyote> Need some help: last night I was working normally in Ubuntu 14.04, battery run out and my computer shuts down. Today when I turned it on, the message said 'cant find /home partition'
[19:59] <Anurizm> Hi. I have an old 2009 macbook and i wanted to install ubuntu on it as the sole OS. just ubuntu, nothing else.
[19:59] <Anurizm> is this even possible
[19:59] <Pici> newbieZombi: Are you having issues installing them?
[19:59] <Anurizm> and will there be weird graphis issues, etc
[19:59] <coderman1> i shouldnt expect ping speeds of 700x slower on a VM vs a bare metal machine should i?
[20:00] <paulcoyote> My computer has 2 disc: an SSD 32 gb and a sata 500 gb
[20:00] <TBotNik> ikonia: Do I need to PB the code?  Requires install of Enterprise Modules
[20:00] <paulcoyote> the 500 Gb is the /home partition
[20:00] <newbieZombi> I have them installed already @Pici
[20:00] <coderman1> from VM to bare metal is like 70ms, from bare to bare .1ms
[20:00] <ikonia> TBotNik: so you're executing it from your web browser ?
[20:00] <ikonia> TBotNik: via a web server
[20:00] <Pici> newbieZombi: So what is the issue?
[20:01] <paulcoyote> gparted says [unable to detect file system!]
[20:01] <TBotNik> ikonia: No localhost, which is my current LAMP stack box.
[20:01] <ikonia> TBotNik: localhost is a hostname - nothing more
[20:01] <ikonia> TBotNik: so you are executing it from a web server yes ?
[20:02] <paulcoyote> Anyone help, please
[20:02] <TBotNik> ikonia: From FF browser the cmd is: http://localhost/dbox/Projects/External/GDS/php_scripts/fix-iWriter.php
[20:03] <ikonia> TBotNik: so you're trying to run it from a web server ?
[20:03] <genoobie> gahhh
[20:03] <paulcoyote> fstab says: # /home was on /dev/sda2 during installation UUID=2f40bf3f-69e0-4975-8be0-9366c2aecfe7 /home           ext4    defaults        0       2
[20:03] <Busserl> coderman1: vm to normal 70ms sounds too much if on the same lan
[20:05] <paulcoyote> anyone please... can't access to my home partition, can't recover my information
[20:05] <mmorey> does anyone know which package provides the ubuntu maintenance shell?
[20:06] <ikonia> paulcoyote: what's the problem ?
[20:07] <paulcoyote> ikonia : last night I was working normally in Ubuntu 14.04, battery run out and my computer shuts down. Today when I turned it on, the message said 'cant find /home partition'
[20:07] <paulcoyote> My computer has 2 disc: an SSD 32 gb and a sata 500 gb
[20:07] <paulcoyote> the 500 Gb is the /home partition
[20:07] <ikonia> paulcoyote: please pastebin your /etc/fstab
[20:07] <paulcoyote> ikonia :fstab says: # /home was on /dev/sda2 during installation UUID=2f40bf3f-69e0-4975-8be0-9366c2aecfe7 /home           ext4    defaults        0       2
[20:07] <Pici> TBotNik: That means that the webserver on your localhost is executing the php. So, the user that your web server is running as needs to be able to access the file.  By default this is www-data.
[20:08] <JWommack> TBotNik: PHP usually writes from the apache user group so you don't have permissions because User:Group are likely not the group that is. If your server is ubuntu www-data is likely the user iirc otherwise it's probably apache. In either case it'd need 777 or you'll have to change the owning user/group/group members.
[20:08] <ikonia> paulcoyote: "pastebin
[20:08] <paulcoyote> Sorry, going there
[20:08] <ikonia> paulcoyote: so is /dev/sda2 mountable manually
[20:08] <JWommack> Or, basically, what pici said when I wasn't looking >_>
[20:08] <Pici> JWommack: 777 is pretty gross, it would be better to set proper permissions on the file(s).
[20:08] <JWommack> and the correct answer is usually the one that doesn't go 777
[20:09] <JWommack> Indeed Pici
[20:09] <TBotNik> ikonia: From the cli I first run "cd /home/Projects/External/GDS/php_scripts/" then enter cmd "sudo php fix-iWriter.php".  Because the second is root it runs fine, but not from the browser.  I will always use cli, but when I release the tool many users at the company, not knowing cli will run from browser.  I'm assuming the browser user is "www-data", which us usually default and guessing it is not assigned to the "users" group on this machine, causing the
[20:09] <TBotNik> errors.  Do you agree?
[20:09] <ikonia> or not get php to write files outside of the web root
[20:09] <paulcoyote> ikonia : can't mount it , how do I should be doing that
[20:09] <ikonia> paulcoyote: how are you trying to mount it and what is the error
[20:09] <ikonia> TBotNik: make it write to files in the web root
[20:09] <JWommack> Though I'd say in most cases you could probably also come up with a solution that doesn't use fwrite, and should. There are a few cases where you need it but they're few and far between
[20:11] <paulcoyote> ikonia pastebin: http://pastebin.com/mqbYLLuY
[20:11] <paulcoyote> ikonia : trying mounting with gparted
[20:12] <ikonia> paulcoyote: gparted....really.
[20:12] <ikonia> a partition tool to mount a disk
[20:12] <ikonia> "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /home"
[20:13] <paulcoyote> ikonia sorry, kind of noob, I know. Mounting manually says: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[20:13] <liquidAnger> paulcoyote: try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda2
[20:14] <DF3D2> Whenever I try to play a video on ubuntu 14.10 I get put back out to the login screen.......
[20:14] <paulcoyote> gparted gives me an error ikonia : Unable to detect file system! Possible reasons are: - The file system is damaged - The file system is unknown to GParted - There is no file system available (unformatted) - The device entry /dev/sda2 is missing
[20:14] <ikonia> paulcoyote: "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /home"
[20:14] <zykotick9> ikonia: i'd guess if mount can't figure out what filesystem it is... there is probably something wrong with it...
[20:15] <ikonia> zykotick9: a reasonable guess, but I want to see if the error changes to a superblock warning
[20:16] <paulcoyote> ikonia : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so
[20:16] <TBotNik> ikonia, Pici, JWommack: Yup no www-data in the "users" group so adding it, to avoid these issues.  Taking a while to update, not sure why!
[20:16] <ikonia> TBotNik: don't add it
[20:16] <ikonia> TBotNik: stop trying to write to files outside the web root
[20:16] <JWommack> ^
[20:16] <ikonia> TBotNik: you are using a web server - the content belongs in the web root
[20:17] <Pici> TBotNik: or don't run the script from the web server.
[20:17] <ikonia> paulcoyote: ok, so it's file system corruption
[20:17] <TBotNik> ikonia: The dir in question is assigned by alias.
[20:17] <ikonia> TBotNik: that changes nothing I said
[20:17] <paulcoyote> ikonia that means... i'm screwd?
[20:18] <ikonia> paulcoyote: no, you can try to use an alternative superblock
[20:18] <ikonia> paulcoyote: but if you're "new" that's starting to get quite comple
[20:18] <ikonia> complex
[20:18] <TBotNik> Ok then all the users will have to learn cli to run it.
[20:18] <ikonia> paulcoyote: you can try to fsck -y /dev/sda2 and see what it says
[20:19] <paulcoyote> i'm not really new, been using ubuntu for 4 years but at user level ikonia - gotta try fsck
[20:19] <ikonia> paulcoyote: come on !
[20:19] <ikonia> paulcoyote: you can't mount a disk, so "you are new"
[20:19] <TBotNik> ikonia: I personally don't care myself cause works great for me!
[20:19] <ikonia> TBotNik: who said anything about it causing work
[20:20] <genoobie> okay
[20:20] <genoobie> wifi was working under a previous version of *buntu but now is not
[20:20] <TBotNik> ikonia: I did all the work writing it to handle 100+ files
[20:20] <newbieZombi> someone can show me how to use the pastebin?
[20:20] <genoobie> newbieZombi, just paste your text, submit
[20:20] <paulcoyote> ikonia yes i'm new like i just drive the car, not change the oil... fsck says The superblock could not be read or does not describe a valid ext2/ext3/ext4 filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2/ext3/ext4 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>  or     e2fsck -b 32768 <d
[20:20] <ikonia> TBotNik: not sure how this has any relevence
[20:21] <newbieZombi> ok
[20:21] <zykotick9> newbieZombi: i'd suggest paste.ubuntu.com
[20:21] <Jeffrey_f> newbieZombi: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:21] <TBotNik> newbieZombi: go to pastebin.com, it's the easiest
[20:21] <ikonia> paulcoyote: you're welcome to try it, you may have a valid superblock there should be a good few on the disk
[20:21] <newbieZombi> i have the pastebinit already installed
[20:21] <paulcoyote> ikonia will try, brb
[20:21] <Jeffrey_f> newbieZombi: if you need to pastbin the output of something, <YourCommandHere> | pastebinit       Will put it out to pastebin then give you a URL
[20:21] <TBotNik> ikonia: I'm good was trying to go the extra mile for the users, but forgetting it now!