[12:08] <bdmurray> ScottK: sweet
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122693 in synaptic (main) "Error fatal en el archivo grafico PNG:IDAT:CRC Error (dup-of: 122692)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122693
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122702 in libshadow-ruby (universe) "libshadow-ruby1.8 segfault on x86_64" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122702
[12:25] <bdmurray> calc: back?
[12:29] <shawarma> nxvl: Did you get someone to do it yet? I've been afk.
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122703 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Upgrade Atheros drivers to snapshot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122703
[12:31] <shawarma> bdmurray, ScottK: You guys are fun. :)
[12:31] <nxvl> shawarma: i have made a patch, but i think is kind of wrong
[12:31] <shawarma> nxvl: Which bug was it again?
[12:32] <nxvl> mmm
[12:32] <nxvl> #89945
[12:33] <shawarma> Bug 89945
[12:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 89945 in openssh "scp doesn't report correct filenames with spaces in verbose mode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89945
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122704 in pbbuttonsd (main) "iBook G4: Screen is blank after resume from suspend" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122704
[12:40] <ScottK> Heya shawarma.  Thanks again for the help.  Turned out the clamsmtp problem was the exact same bug.
[12:41] <shawarma> ScottK: Madness.
[12:41] <shawarma> ScottK: I suspected the adduser blahblabhal || return 2, but hey.
[12:42] <ScottK> Of course it may be that TOO, but it definitely had the newaliases problem.
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122705 in xorg (main) "Xorg Crash - Qt 4.3 OpenGL Programs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122705
[12:47] <shawarma> ScottK: Heh. Alright. I still haven't reproduced it. meh.
[12:50] <shawarma> nxvl: Just looked at your patch. Yeah, I'm not quite sure that's sufficient.
[12:51] <shawarma> nxvl: On second thought..
[12:53] <shawarma> :)
[12:53] <shawarma> nxvl: Why do you think it's "kind of wrong"?
[12:56] <ScottK> shawarma: OK.  If you find something else, let me know please
[12:57] <shawarma> ScottK: I'll probably try to get some sleep soon, so don't expect much more from me today :)
[12:58] <shawarma> nxvl: It's actually ok. It tells the user exactly which command is being run (the bug only speaks of local copying which is acomplished by calling 'cp').
[12:59] <shawarma> nxvl: For bonus points, you could add '-v' to the cp command and have that tell the user what it's actually doing.
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122708 in quodlibet (universe) "quodlibet.py crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in load() (dup-of: 122657)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122708
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122709 in Ubuntu "[Gutsy]  Move stream in pulse audio volume control does not work reliably" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122709
[01:04] <ajmitch> shawarma: ah, still going? :)
[01:06] <shawarma> ajmitch: Just pretending.
[01:08] <ajmitch> hehe
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122711 in file-roller (main) "file-roller crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122711
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122712 in jack-audio-connection-kit (universe) "Please sync jack-audio-connection-kit (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122712
[01:25] <calc> bdmurray: back for a few min
[01:25] <calc> bdmurray: whats up?
[01:26] <bdmurray> hunh
[01:27] <calc> bdmurray: you asked me about an hour ago, i was working on my laptop, having issues with getting it to run amd64 ubuntu
[01:27] <bdmurray> calc: yeah, I'm trying to recall
[01:29] <calc> i have to go get ready for premiere party tonight, but just email me or msg me and i will try to get to it first thing in the morning
[01:30] <bdmurray> calc: it probably isn't a big deal - have fun!
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122716 in wireshark (universe) "Please sync wireshark (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122716
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122715 in scponly (universe) "setup_chroot not working correctly on amd64" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122715
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122717 in banshee (universe) "Blank CD not recognized when trying to burn an audio CD " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122717
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122718 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Please enable OSS/Free opl3, opl3sa, and opl3sa2 sound drivers" [Wishlist,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122718
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122719 in zabbix (universe) "Missing dependencies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122719
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122720 in compiz (main) "can't lock screen with a keybinding" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122720
[02:01] <paul_d> In the bug squash team we cannot set bug to Triaged, so I guess we set them to confirm if they seems complete, and a QA member will go through confirmed bugs, verify and set to Triaged?
[02:05] <bdmurray> paul_d: Ideally yes
[02:05] <bdmurray> However if you have a particular bug that you are concerned about I'd be happy to look at it.
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122721 in zabbix (universe) "Missing dependencies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122721
[02:07] <paul_d> I would have made bug #84142 a wishlist
[02:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 84142 in apache2 "apache2-common: a2ensite rewritten to allow globbing/multiple site enabling" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84142
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122723 in linux-meta (main) "[gutsy]  USB host controller dies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122723
[02:11] <Neolithium> There, finally applied for Ubuntu QA. :)
[02:13] <bdmurray> Neolithium: Have you seen the QA application?
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122724 in zabbix (universe) "Missing dependencies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122724
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122725 in zabbix (universe) "wrong permission" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122725
[02:15] <bdmurray> Neolithium: could you reply to my e-mail instead?
[02:16] <Neolithium> Absolutely. I'm just writing the Email now for you :)
[02:17] <bdmurray> Cool, how many names do you have?
[02:18] <bdmurray> paul_d: why is that bug "New"?
[02:21] <Neolithium> There we go.
[02:22] <paul_d> was thinking, 'not sure what to do' let's just reverse my change... just changed for confirmed
[02:24] <paul_d> So, in bug squashing team, I don't update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20070627 after confirming a bug, right?
[02:24] <bdmurray> New implies that nobody has looked at the bug which isn't really the case
[02:24] <bdmurray> confirming is triaging so yes the bug has been triaged
[02:24] <paul_d> ok
[02:24] <bdmurray> so yes update the wiki
[02:38] <paul_d> Suppose a normal bug (not a critical one) reported on Feisty, should we ask them to verify that it exist on Tribe-2?
[02:40] <paul_d> ... supposing I can't reproduce it myself
[02:40] <bdmurray> That sounds reasonable.  You can't reproduce it on Gutsy?
[02:41] <paul_d> actually, hiting a Dapper bug, and was asking myself what I would de if it was a more recent one
[02:46] <bdmurray> Testing in any more recent release would be fine, but Gutsy is best.
[02:54] <Neolithium> Anyone here use rsync quite a bit? After reading the man pages, I think there's a reported bug with normal behaviour, but I don't use it enough to know.  Feel free to pm me :)
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122726 in firefox (main) "It just crashed after reaching 100% CPU use for about 10 seconds." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122726
[02:58] <bdmurray> Neolithium: bug #?
[02:59] <Neolithium> bdmurray: Bug 122589
[02:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122589 in rsync "rsync requires the use of the -a option in order to copy files " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122589
[03:00] <paul_d> I am surprised that UbuntuBugDay wiki page suggest to 'Assign it to a package, ask a question, mark it "Incomplete" and assign it to yourself', I thought assigning a bug was meaning intend to fix and upload the fix
[03:01] <Neolithium> Well, not everyone can fix the bugs; though we can help make it easier for those that fix them all :)
[03:01] <bdmurray> If the bug is Incomplete it can't be fixed.
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122727 in phpmyadmin (universe) "can't install phpmyadmin on gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122727
[03:01] <bdmurray> More or less
[03:01] <gnomefreak> bdmurray: do you happen to have the query link for NEW handy?
[03:01] <bdmurray> gnomefreak: NEW what?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> query
[03:02] <gnomefreak> on LP
[03:02] <gnomefreak> packages waiting on review for archive
[03:02] <bdmurray> ah, nope
[03:03] <crimsun> LP/ubuntu/$release/+queue
[03:12] <bdmurray> However, there is some disagreement about the assignment part
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, i still can'd figure this one out:
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> freddy@boknows:~$ bugnumbers -p "firefox" --lc="d:2007-05-27" > firefoxorphaned
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Package 'firefox' not found.
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> if i do firefox  without the quotes, it still say this
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122728 in ubiquity (main) "Installation Crashed (dup-of: 52228)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122728
[03:41] <Admiral_Chicago> i just installed bughelper from the gutsy repo today...
[03:47] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see, i disabled source files in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122729 in openipmi (universe) "Please sync openipmi (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122729
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122731 in emifreq-applet (universe) "Memory leak" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122731
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122730 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "seg fault reading email" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122730
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122732 in notification-daemon (main) "notification-daemon crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122732
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122733 in muine (universe) "muine.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_clear()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122733
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122734 in digikam (main) "digikam crashes when assigning tag to multiple pictures" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122734
[04:38] <ajmitch> shawarma: oh well, new samba out, I'll merge it, *again* :)
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122735 in firefox-granparadiso (universe) "firefox-granparadiso crashes with new profile" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122735
[04:40] <manchicken> Any kubuntu bug folks want to talk about adept bugs?
[04:42] <manchicken> ScottK: Well you're no help :)
[04:42] <manchicken> I need to know if anybody knows if #91296 is still happening...
[04:43] <manchicken> It's mentioned under feisty, and I'm wondering if it's still applicable in GG
[04:44] <manchicken> And can someone please dispense good canings to those posting wishlist items as if they were bugs?
[04:44] <manchicken> I'll volunteer :)
[04:45] <ajmitch> why, where are they meant to put them?
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122736 in tinymux (universe) "Please sync tinymux (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122736
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122737 in firefox-granparadiso (universe) "No default search engines" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122737
[04:46] <manchicken> ajmitch: Isn't there a way to mark them as a wishlist item rather than a bug?
[04:46] <manchicken> Gosh, I can't believe I don't know the answer to that question.
[04:46] <RAOF> Yes, but you need to be able to change the importance (there's "wishlist" onder there.
[04:46] <RAOF> s/onder/under/
[04:47] <manchicken> Ah.
[04:47] <manchicken> That seems... silly.
[04:47] <RAOF> bug #120943 is an example
[04:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120943 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "Update nvidia-glx-new pacakge to 100.14.11" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120943
[04:47] <manchicken> Why was it done that way?  I would think it better to completely classify wishlist items from bugs.
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122738 in Ubuntu "GDM restarts when stwitching from tty1 (or others) to tty7" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122738
[04:56] <manchicken> Could someone please verify that bug #88253 isn't happening (I just did if that's good enough) and close it out?
[04:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 88253 in meta-kde ""KDE Daemon" dialog improperly sized" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88253
[04:57] <manchicken> I put that one in near the late cycle of feisty, and it's certainly not happening anymore for me.
[04:57] <shirish> manchicken: are you a developer or somebody who could help?
[04:58] <manchicken> shirish: I'm a kubuntu hacker.
[04:58] <manchicken> Are you looking for a hand on something?
[04:58] <shirish> manchicken: cool, as far as you could help me understand if what I'm doing is right or not.
[04:58] <shirish> please see this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exaile/+bug/122661
[04:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122661 in exaile "exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 122394)" [Medium,Incomplete]
[04:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122394 in exaile "exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]
[04:58] <manchicken> I'll take a peek.
[04:59] <manchicken> Python isn't my forte, but I can dabble a bit I suppose.
[04:59] <shirish> thanx, look at the comment given by Sebastian Bacher
[04:59] <manchicken> righto.
[04:59] <manchicken> I've never heard of that before, but it's a great idea.
[05:00] <manchicken> Those are edgy instructions though...
[05:00] <shirish> manchicken: ok so far so cool
[05:00] <shirish> ok wait
[05:00] <RAOF> They work for gutsy.  Just s/feisty/gutsy/
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122739 in rhythmbox (main) "Play/Pause keyboard shortcut conflict" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122739
[05:01] <shirish> RAOF: glad you could join the conversation
[05:01] <manchicken> I'm guessing that this is a very python-specific solution...
[05:01] <RAOF> shirish: I saw "python" and "SIGSEGV" and was intrigued :)
[05:01] <manchicken> I've never seen that before...
[05:01] <manchicken> Yeah.  Scripting languages don't tend to get GPF issues as frequently :)
[05:01] <shirish> RAOF: manchicken: my question is this, while its all good, the exaile app. version is not present in fiesty
[05:02] <manchicken> shirish: Ooh, right, because that's a custom repo...  it may not be maintained.
[05:02] <shirish> RAOF: manchicken: right, that's the thing.
[05:02] <manchicken> You could just go fetch it from their edgy repo and try to install it manually.
[05:03] <RAOF> Does it happen with the Feisty version, though?
[05:03] <shirish> manchicken: the question is how do I know which is the right version?
[05:03] <shirish> the query was directed at both of you.
[05:03] <manchicken> What must one do to create their own repo?  I'm guessing it's just setting up an HTTP-able site with the paths...
[05:04] <manchicken> shirish: As I've never heard of that before I'm afraid I'd have to give you a big fat question mark on that one.
[05:04] <RAOF> manchicken: Yeah, it's pretty easy.  Seveas produces the "falcon" program, which does something like www.cooperteam.net/falcon
[05:04] <RAOF> shirish: Generally, the correct version is the one in Gutsy :)
[05:04] <manchicken> RAOF: It'd be neat to have a repo set up on my host.
[05:05] <manchicken> I've got more than enough unused bandwidth and disk space :)
[05:05] <shirish> manchicken: RAOF: cancel that, I just found out that martin is maintaining that
[05:05] <shirish> I guess the page needs to be updated
[05:05] <shirish> again cancel those last 2 sentences, they are unmaintained, just checked the last thing was in 31 may 2k7
[05:05] <RAOF> Good luck bughunting :)
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122740 in yelp (main) "unable to change screen resolution, currently using a 50" hdtv hooked to a ps3 runnin ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122740
[05:06] <shirish> thanx
[05:08] <manchicken> That's a nice one.
[05:08] <manchicken> heh
[05:10] <manchicken> Can I get someone to assign a low priority to bug #119969 pretty please?
[05:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119969 in adept "Adept Installer review changes screen has a useless Details button." [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119969
[05:16] <ScottK> manchicken: I'll do it if no one else has.
[05:16] <ScottK> manchicken: Done.
[05:20] <manchicken> Much thanks :)
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122742 in authtool (universe) "authtool-gtk crashed with DebconfError in command()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122742
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122741 in Ubuntu "Semi-random kernel panic, even without powernowd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122741
[05:24] <manchicken> Is there a law that requires touch-pads to go stupid at the worst possible times?
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122743 in lwat (universe) "Please sync lwat (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122743
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122744 in restricted-manager (main) "restricted-manager crashed with UnboundLocalError in load_lrmc_disabled() (dup-of: 122359)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122744
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122745 in gaim (main) "Gaim freezes when receiving a new message" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122745
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122746 in saods9 (universe) "couldn't read file "/usr/lib/tcllib1.8/base64/base64.tcl"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122746
[05:37] <shirish> Admiral_Chicago: are you there, this is for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-granparadiso/+bug/122737
[05:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122737 in firefox-granparadiso "No default search engines" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[05:37] <shirish> I reported it and you confirmed it
[05:37] <shirish> Admiral_Chicago: do you think i should report it upstream or it needs more work?
[05:44] <shirish> info ubuntulog
[05:44] <shirish> seems to be a person unlike ubotu, sorry
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122747 in gnome-panel (main) "I lost the menus on my panel" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122747
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122748 in nautilus (main) "trying to burn DVD+RW causes freeze" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122748
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122749 in synaptic (main) "Error installing/uninstalling application" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122749
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122750 in gcc-4.1 (main) "Enable -fbounds-check by including bounds-checking patch for gcc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122750
[06:55] <orion2012> bug #122739 seems invalid. Is it?
[06:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122739 in rhythmbox "Play/Pause keyboard shortcut conflict" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122739
[06:57] <orion2012> we wouldn't be willing to carry a patch like that indefinetly, but how should the bug be handled?
[06:59] <RAOF> Sounds like a job for WontFix, but it'd be nice if they didn't conflict.  Alternatively, you could pass that upstream to rhythmbox?
[07:00] <orion2012> RAOF: Is WontFix and Triaged reserved for certain people?
[07:01] <orion2012> RAOF: I don't see it in the status drop-down
[07:01] <Hobbsee> ah, yeah, it will be i expect
[07:01] <RAOF> Yeah, it's reserved.  Or maybe it hasn't been rolled out.  You could just file an upstream bug, asking for the keyboard shortcut to be fixed, though.
[07:02] <orion2012> OK, I'll file upstream, thanks
[07:03] <shirish> hi all, I am trying to get a backtrace but unsuccessful, can anybody tell me the reason why?
[07:03] <Hobbsee> RAOF: no, it's rolled out.
[07:03] <shirish> ubotu pastebin
[07:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:03] <Hobbsee> RAOF: just it will be reserved, yeah.
[07:03] <RAOF> Hobbsee: Ok, cool.
[07:04] <Hobbsee> orion2012: please add the upstream bug to that list
[07:04] <orion2012> Hobbsee: it's already been filed, I added an affects
[07:04] <Hobbsee> orion2012: ah, cool.
[07:04] <shirish> Ok this is it can somebody guide me why I got that error, I installed the debug-symbols package for exaile also.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27575/
[07:04] <Hobbsee> orion2012: done
[07:04] <orion2012> Hobbsee: could you mark it as Triaged, or whatever's appropriate
[07:05] <orion2012> Hobbsee: thanks
[07:05] <shirish> Hobbsee: I'm sure I did something stupid, but can you check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27575/ and lemme know where I went wrong?
[07:07] <Hobbsee> shirish: i have no idea.
[07:08] <orion2012> shirish: is exaile a binary? or just a script?
[07:08] <shirish> Hobbsee: its a binary, its like winamp
[07:08] <RAOF> Actually, it's a python script.
[07:08] <RAOF> You'll want to run "gdb python2.5"
[07:09] <shirish> aha, ok
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> shirish: leave as is, I'll discuss it with john
[07:09] <RAOF> Then add the argument /usr/bin/exaile
[07:09] <orion2012> --args option
[07:10] <shirish> Admiral_Chicago: I could but I need to learn, exaile is as good an option as any
[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> exile?
[07:11] <shirish> ubotu exaile
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <dholbach> good morning
[07:12] <shirish> Admiral_Chicago: its a media player, nothing to do with the bug I reported about firefox-granparadiso
[07:12] <shirish> dholbach: good morning
[07:12] <dholbach> hey shirish
[07:13] <shirish> hi dholback, trying to understand how to take a backtrace :)
[07:14] <orion2012> shirish: http://wiki.python.org/moin/DebuggingWithGdb that should be very useful to you
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122752 in Ubuntu "usb hard drive won't automount" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122752
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122753 in Ubuntu "Choppy Video Playback in Feisty 100% CPU usage Xorg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122753
[07:18] <dholbach> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[07:19] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[07:22] <shirish> orion: dholbach: I tried the above http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27577/ something I did wrong perhaps?
[07:22] <dholbach> that's a python program
[07:22] <dholbach> if it crashes, it should just spit out the python backtrace
[07:22] <dholbach> you can't gdb it
[07:23] <shirish> dholbach: exactly, orion2012 told me about  http://wiki.python.org/moin/DebuggingWithGdb
[07:23] <shirish> dholbach: now it does crash, now how do I get this python backtrace?
[07:23] <dholbach> $ gdb python
[07:23] <dholbach> ...
[07:23] <dholbach> (gdb) run <programname>.py <arguments>
[07:23] <dholbach> http://wiki.python.org/moin/DebuggingWithGdb
[07:24] <dholbach> it's all on the page you pointed to me
[07:24] <shirish> dholbach: I did try that, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27577/
[07:24] <shirish> dholbach: shouldn't the program run or something?
[07:24] <dholbach> read what I said
[07:24] <dholbach> (gdb) run <programname>.py <arguments>
[07:25] <shirish> what arguments should I give?
[07:25] <dholbach> none
[07:25] <dholbach> if there aren't any
[07:26] <dholbach> doesn' apport catch the crash?
[07:26] <dholbach> what version of ubuntu do you use?
[07:26] <shirish> dholbach : apport catches the crash , using gutsy
[07:26] <dholbach> isn't the backtrace of it complete?
[07:26] <dholbach> you could have a crash file of it in /var/crash
[07:27] <dholbach> and I'm sure it's a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exaile - we have lots of crashes of it
[07:28] <shirish> true, it might well be, I just wanna get the hang of it, there are 4-5 programs which need a backtrace
[07:28] <shirish> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27578/
[07:28] <dholbach> right
[07:28] <dholbach> try /usr/bin/exaile
[07:28] <shirish> now should I be first running exaile, let it dump the crash file & then run the gdb or what?
[07:29] <dholbach> behind the 'run'
[07:29] <dholbach> /usr/bin/python2.5: can't open file 'exaile.py': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[07:29] <dholbach> you shouldn't have to run gdb
[07:29] <dholbach> if it crashed already, there should be a crash file in /var/crash
[07:30] <shirish> ok hang on
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122754 in update-manager (main) "synaptic,automatix and update-manager does nothing or dont run" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122754
[07:31] <shirish> dholbach: I deleted that one, as it was 20 minutes late
[07:31] <shirish> make that 20 minutes before
[07:31] <shirish> anyway, here is the one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27579/
[07:32] <shirish> does that give any idea, what I need to do now
[07:32] <dufrp> looking bug #21995, seems to have enough info, but date back from sept. 2005, would mark as incomplete and ask for test on latest version, but not sure I wish to mess with status because it is assigned to Adam Conrad (which is fine) already
[07:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 21995 in php5 "php5-sybase: sybase_ct doesn't always return correct results from MS SQL" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/21995
[07:33] <dholbach> shirish: you need to type "bt" after that
[07:34] <dholbach> or "thread apply bt all full"
[07:34] <shirish> dholbach: ok cool, I think I made one more mistake, shouldn't there have been a .txt file I should have mentioned somewhere?
[07:34] <orion2012> dufrp: perhaps you could "ping" Adam Conrad about its status
[07:34] <dholbach> .txt file?
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122755 in exaile (universe) "exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122755
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122756 in os-prober (main) "[SPARC]  os-prober should skip "whole_disk" partitions" [Low,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122756
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122757 in gnome-panel (main) "Blank icon just idles" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122757
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122758 in gnome-panel (main) "Le paquet avast4workstation doit tre rinstall, mais je ne parviens pas  trouver son archive." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122758
[08:20] <thekorn> good morning
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122759 in amarok (main) "Offer 'previous cover' button when selecting cover" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122759
[08:27] <orion2012> Have we started accepting multi-lingual bugs?
[08:27] <orion2012> thekorn: 'morning
[08:29] <dholbach> heya thekorn
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> morning everyone
[08:30] <Hobbsee> orion2012: preferabl;y not
[08:32] <thekorn> hey orion2012 , dholbach , Admiral_Chicago
[08:33] <orion2012> Hobbsee: hope the response to bug #122758 was appropriate ;-)
[08:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122758 in gnome-panel "Le paquet avast4workstation doit tre rinstall, mais je ne parviens pas  trouver son archive." [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122758
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122760 in Ubuntu "listen don't load new folders" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122760
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122761 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager is unable to associate to wireless AP" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122761
[09:07] <shirish> dholbach: sorry had to leave, electricity had gone out
[09:07] <dholbach> shirish: ah ok
[09:08] <shirish> dholbach: ok, cool, now let's go back to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27579/
[09:08] <dholbach> /usr/bin/python2.5: can't open file 'exaile.py': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[09:09] <shirish> you had said I needed to add "bt" after that, now where I need to add "bt"
[09:09] <dholbach> that indicates that you give it the wrong path to look in
[09:09] <shirish> ah yes, sorry
[09:09] <dholbach> after that type 'bt'
[09:09] <gnomefreak> good morning
[09:10] <shirish> gnomefreak: good afternoon, actually :)
[09:10] <shirish> dholbach: look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27583/
[09:10] <gnomefreak> shirish: its 3am here :)
[09:11] <shirish> lol
[09:11] <dholbach> shirish: after that, type 'bt'
[09:11] <gnomefreak> mental note java is not worth 12 hours of work
[09:11] <shirish> dholbach: when you mean 'bt' after that does it mean
[09:11] <shirish> run /usr/bin/exaile bt
[09:11] <shirish> or let the whole thing run
[09:12] <dholbach> no
[09:12] <shirish> and then type bt after the python.c thing shows up
[09:12] <dholbach> after all the stuff has happened
[09:12] <shirish> ok cool
[09:12] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[09:13] <shirish> dholbach: now it asks me after scrolling a bit , ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
[09:13] <shirish>
[09:13] <dholbach> shirish: that's to show the next page
[09:13] <shirish> entering enter  gives this as the last line Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC
[09:13] <dholbach> right
[09:13] <shirish> 'Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC'
[09:14] <shirish> ok this is good , I gather
[09:14] <dholbach> best to look if one of the backtraces in the bug tracker matches your backtrace
[09:14] <dholbach> as I said before: I'm sure it's a duplicate of one that was already filed
[09:14] <shirish> dholbach: that may well be, as I also said before
[09:15] <shirish> the thing is, is the whole scrolling the backtrace, or does this backtrace gets saved somewhere?
[09:15] <dholbach> it does not
[09:15] <dholbach> if you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace it has more info on how to save it somewhere etc
[09:15] <dholbach> please read it - it's good
[09:15] <dholbach> and will answer most of your questions
[09:16] <shirish> dholbach: I read it, it just confuses me more rather than explaining to me, sorry to be a pain
[09:16] <shirish> I actually read it twice
[09:16] <shirish> make that thrice
[09:17] <shirish> ok look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27585/ is this good enough?
[09:17] <dholbach> set logging on
[09:17] <dholbach> that's what will write the output to a file
[09:17] <dholbach> shirish: I merely repeat what's written on that page
[09:18] <Hobbsee> bug 122645
[09:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122645 in ubiquity "manual partitioning hangs indefinitively" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122645
[09:18] <shirish> dholbach: true, but it needs to be simpler for me, I'm doing it the first time.
[09:18] <shirish> for e.g. when it says (gdb) set logging file gdb-<program>.txt (gdb) set logging on
[09:18] <shirish> should this be done at the start of things, or when?
[09:19] <dholbach> yes
[09:19] <dholbach> http://launchpad.net/bugs/122581 <- that's your bug
[09:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122581 in exaile "exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV in PyThreadState_New()" [Medium,Incomplete]
[09:20] <shirish> dholbach: not reported by me, but yes that is one
[09:20] <shirish> dholbach: I'm writing down the steps so I don't forget
[09:21] <dholbach> best to install libglib2.0-0-dbg libgstreamer0.10-0-dbg too
[09:25] <shirish> dholbach: there are two like libglibg2.0.0-dbg as well as libglib2.0,0-dbgsym
[09:25] <dholbach> pick any of them
[09:25] <shirish> ok cool did that
[09:25] <shirish> now from the start
[09:26] <gnomefreak> shirish: either one
[09:26] <dholbach> brb
[09:26] <shirish> ok cool
[09:26] <shirish> gnomefreak: hope you can help me
[09:26] <shirish> I'm wanting to know this set logging on thing, where it comes
[09:26] <gnomefreak> shirish: depends what you are doing
[09:27] <gnomefreak> and how hard i have to think
[09:27] <shirish> lol :P
[09:27] <gnomefreak> set logging on?
[09:27] <shirish> gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[09:27] <shirish> I want to take backtrace of a program , and while I have some got some idea, some things are not clear with me.
[09:27] <gnomefreak> if it opens ill be glad to help
[09:28] <gnomefreak> shirish: ok
[09:28] <shirish> (gdb) set logging file gdb-<program>.txt (gdb) set logging on
[09:28] <shirish> now this one should be put right at the top?
[09:28] <shirish> meaning at the start of the debugging cycle?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> yes
[09:29] <gnomefreak> those 2 should be run first iirc
[09:29] <shirish> gnomefreak: ok, lemme try & then paste whatever happens on pastebin, and you can tell if I did something wrong
[09:30] <gnomefreak> those 2 commands are taking the place of gdb 2>&1 | tee gdb-<program>.txt
[09:31] <gnomefreak> iirc after set logging on than you run the app and make it crash (very general instructions)
[09:31] <shirish> gnomefreak: right on both counts, lemme show what it is showing at my end
[09:32] <shirish> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27586/
[09:32] <shirish> gnomefreak: exaile is a python2.5 program
[09:33] <shirish> gnomefreak: what am I doing wrong?
[09:33] <gnomefreak> shirish: sorry its taking a while to load
[09:33] <gnomefreak> i have uploads going and its lagging me pretty badly
[09:34] <gnomefreak> you might wan tto try dropping the word file
[09:34] <shirish> ah ok, take your time, its very noobish, so I might have faltered somewhere easily
[09:35] <gnomefreak> shirish: see im not real sure if that even works most people go the easy route
[09:35] <shirish> the same error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27587/
[09:35] <shirish> gnomefreak: what is the easy route?
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122764 in notification-daemon (main) "notification-daemon crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122764
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122765 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122765
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122766 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122766
[09:36] <gnomefreak> gdb <program> 2>&1 | tee gdb-<program>.txt
[09:36] <shirish> ok hang on
[09:37] <gnomefreak> shirish: that command will start gdb and the app and log any output to the file gdb-<app>.txt
[09:38] <gnomefreak> look under the section named generation (that is the way i have always done it)
[09:38] <shirish> gnomefreak: another error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27588/
[09:38] <shirish> gnomefreak: its good, you are experienced while i'm not.
[09:39] <gnomefreak> shirish: ok  gdb /usr/bin/exaile 2>&1|tee gdb /usr/bin/exaile.txt should be gdb exaile 2>&1|tee gdb /usr/bin/exaile.txt
[09:40] <gnomefreak> shirish: should beable to launch app with just the name not the path
[09:40] <RAOF> gnomefreak, shirish: And "gdb exaile" should be "gdb python2.5"
[09:41] <gnomefreak> RAOF: why if exaile is the app that is crashing
[09:41] <RAOF> gnomefreak: Because exaile is a python script, so gdb won't know anything about it.
[09:41] <gnomefreak> RAOF: if python is causing app to crash running app should work
[09:41] <gnomefreak> oh
[09:41] <gnomefreak> i didnt relize it was a script
[09:41] <gnomefreak> realize
[09:42] <RAOF> NP
[09:42] <shirish> gnomefreak: RAOF: gdb python2.5 2>&1|tee gdb /usr/bin/exaile.txt  is this right?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> wouldnt he still need to run exaile?
[09:42] <shirish> yup I would, coming to that
[09:42] <gnomefreak> or is python crashing
[09:42] <RAOF> gnomefreak: Yes.  Once he hits the gdb prompt, he'll need to go "run /usr/bin/exaile"
[09:42] <gnomefreak> ok
[09:42] <RAOF> gnomefreak: Python is crashing while running exaile.
[09:43] <RAOF> (As in, something in the exaile script is causing the python interpreter to segfault, or suchlike)
[09:43] <gnomefreak> makes sense i didnt read bug report so for all i knew gstreamer was crashing
[09:43] <shirish> gnomefreak: see this is educational for both of us :)
[09:44] <RAOF> gnomefreak: Either way, "python2.5" is the process that's actually crashing, and so is what should be running in gdb :)
[09:44] <gnomefreak> makes sense
[09:44] <RAOF> :)
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122767 in deskbar-applet (main) "Crash deskbar-applet + tracker in Ubuntu Feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122767
[09:46] <shirish> gnomefreak: this is my first time, dunno the difference between backtrace & strace, but hope to know that sometime
[09:46] <shirish> gnomefreak: RAOF: this is what its so far http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27590/
[09:46] <gnomefreak> shirish: strace is normally used for scripts
[09:46] <shirish> gnomefreak: aha, ok noted that
[09:46] <gnomefreak> backtrace is used for apps
[09:47] <shirish> the next question would be how to know the difference between the two? but before this goes tangent lets get back to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27590/
[09:47] <gnomefreak> Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC  :(
[09:47] <shirish> that's not good I guess?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> no
[09:48] <gnomefreak> not normally
[09:48] <shirish> damn, now any ideas what should I do then?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> i dont see enough in that to be able to say what is really causing it
[09:48] <gnomefreak> shirish: your on gutsy?
[09:48] <shirish> gnomefreak: yes, on gutsy
[09:49] <gnomefreak> shirish: i used to get those when i was doing apport retraces never on gdb output though
[09:49] <shirish> thanx for that soothing statement
[09:49] <shirish> :)
[09:49] <gnomefreak> and i did 8+ gdb reports for 1 bug tuesday night
[09:49] <gnomefreak> and it didnt do it once
[09:50] <gnomefreak> shirish: what version of gdb do you have installed?
[09:50] <shirish> oh wow, I think I already broke that record
[09:50] <gnomefreak> nvm
[09:50] <shirish> hang on
[09:50] <gnomefreak> 6.6
[09:50] <gnomefreak> 6.6.dfsg-1ubuntu2 should be it
[09:50] <shirish>  6.6.dfsg-1ubuntu2
[09:50] <pochu> shirish: PyThreadState_New (interp=0x0) at ../Python/pystate.c:201
[09:50] <pochu> 201     ../Python/pystate.c: No such file or directory.
[09:50] <pochu>         in ../Python/pystate.c
[09:50] <shirish> yup
[09:50] <pochu> It isn't finding that file...
[09:50] <pochu> Looks like the cause of the crash.
[09:50] <shirish> hi pochu :)
[09:51] <pochu> hello
[09:51] <RAOF> pochu: Surely that's gdb that's not finding the file?  PyThreadState_New is probably segfaulting due to the null "interp" pointer.  Isn't that what that part of the backtrace says?
[09:52] <pochu> Hmm, I'm not very good with backtraces yet, but I was looking at 'No such file or directory.'
[09:52] <RAOF> Curses.  I was hoping to learn more gdb from you :)
[09:52] <pochu> I think it will be the other way ;)
[09:53] <shirish> damn, lol
[09:53] <gnomefreak> brb generating files for repo
[09:53] <pochu> shirish: could you check that Python/pystate.c exists in the source code?
[09:53] <RAOF> Anyway, I think what needs to be determined is why PyTS_N is getting a null pointer.
[09:53] <shirish> ok can I have your attention to another thing guys  look at line 2 in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27590/
[09:54] <pochu> If it doesn't, then that's probably the cause...
[09:54] <pochu> shirish: that's normal.
[09:54] <shirish> pochu: I've just started doing this backtrace stuff, don't know (and don't think will ever know) how to read source code
[09:54] <pochu> You can write to /usr/bin with normal access, you have to be root...
[09:54] <pochu> So use /tmp or ~/ ;)
[09:55] <pochu> I don't think it's a good idea to write logs to /usr/bin/ ...
[09:55] <shirish> pochu: although if you do tell me to do something, a,b,c,d then can do that
[09:55] <shirish> pochu: that was me & gnomefreak directing me
[09:55] <pochu> shirish: You don't need to read it, just see if Python/pystate.c exists :)
[09:55] <RAOF> pochu: I really don't think that "no such file or directory" is the problem.  I think that gdb is looking for it in the hope of displaying where the crash happened.  I'm willing to be proved wrong, however :)
[09:56] <gnomefreak> i would think gdb needs the .c file more than the app itself
[09:56] <shirish> pochu: I need to see Python/pystate.c in python 2.5 or in exaile or where? what path should I be looking in?
[09:56] <RAOF> Because the .c file was already built into the python2.5 interpreter :)
[09:56] <pochu> RAOF: hmm, I'm probably wrong, and not you... :)
[09:57] <pochu> shirish: I'd say in exaile, but RAOF thinks the problem is in the pointer though...
[09:57] <pochu> interp=0x0
[09:57] <pochu> ^ which is NULL
[09:57] <pochu> bbl
[09:59] <shirish> RAOF: I did gedit /usr/bin/exaile & searched for "Python/pystate.c" in it, it isn't there
[09:59] <shirish> RAOF: cancel that, its there on line 54
[10:00] <gnomefreak> shirish: its easier to attach it to bug and let the person that knows the app/python figure it out :)
[10:00] <shirish> gnomefreak: thanx you are back
[10:00] <gnomefreak> sort of yes
[10:00] <RAOF> shirish: But you might want to do the backtrace again, with some more debug packages installed.
[10:01] <gnomefreak> look for python2.5-dbg or -dbgsym packages
[10:01] <shirish> gnomefreak:  aptitude search python2.5-dbg
[10:01] <shirish> i A python2.5-dbg                                    - Debug Build of the Python Interpreter (version 2.5)
[10:02] <shirish> that one is installed
[10:02] <RAOF> shirish: Yeah, python2.5-dbgsym, and python-gobject-dbgsym, libgstreamer0.10-dbgsym
[10:02] <gnomefreak> those too but i think you have last one
[10:02] <RAOF> Sorry, libgstreamer0.10-0-dbgsym
[10:03] <dholbach> gnomefreak: why don't you try to get them into ubuntu?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> dholbach: they are already
[10:03] <RAOF> And let's throw in libglib2.0-0-dbgsym
[10:03] <dholbach> gnomefreak: ah ok super
[10:04] <shirish> RAOF: should all be -dbgsym or is it ok to have a mix of -dbg & -dbgsym packages?
[10:05] <RAOF> It's fine to have a mix
[10:05] <shirish> ok cool
[10:06] <gnomefreak> dholbach: matter of fact while i have you sun-java6 in fiesty has mem leak issue i backported java6 from gutsy to my feisty repos and it fixed the memleak among other things what that need to be a backport or is there something i can do to get it in feisty
[10:06] <gnomefreak> it was an accedental fix
[10:06] <dholbach> ah ok
[10:06] <dholbach> doko_ should know about the java stuff
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ok ill ping him sometime today if im still up and see what he wants me to do
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ty
[10:07] <shirish> RAOF: dholbach: gnomefreak: now I have exaile-dbg, python2.5-dbg, python-gobject-dbgsym,libgstream0.10-dbgsym, libglib2.0-0-dbg
[10:07] <shirish> whoosh
[10:07] <gnomefreak> shirish: good
[10:07] <shirish> anything else remaining?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> shirish: maybe but try it with that first
[10:08] <shirish> ok good
[10:09] <gnomefreak> exaile-dbg should give you alot more output than you had
[10:09] <shirish> gnomefreak: that was installed long time back
[10:09] <gnomefreak> doko: good morning:)
[10:09] <gnomefreak> shirish: oh
[10:10] <gnomefreak> shirish: take a look at apt-cache show exaile and see if anything looks like you would need the -dbg packages :) or give me a little while
[10:10] <shirish>  aptitude search exaile
[10:10] <shirish> i   exaile                                           - flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GT
[10:10] <shirish> i   exaile-dbgsym                                    - debug symbols for package exaile
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122770 in libgtksourceviewmm (universe) "Please sync libgtksourceviewmm (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122770
[10:11] <shirish> gnomefreak: gulp, if you are going to say all in depends, then its truly a manmoth undertaking
[10:11] <gnomefreak> doko: sun-java6 i know for sure in feisty has a memleak or atleast a freezing issue, the sun-java6 in gutsy 6.00 and 6.01 fix this issue, i have built it for my feisty repo and it is being tested to make sure its fixed. Is there something i can do to get the fixed version in feisty?
[10:12] <gnomefreak> shirish: you wont need all of them
[10:12] <RAOF> shirish: Ideally everything in depends, but what you've got there should be enough :)
[10:12] <shirish> ah ok, cool
[10:13] <gnomefreak> libxrandr2-dbg libxrender1-dbg libgtk2.0-0-dbg
[10:13] <gnomefreak> or dbgsym
[10:13] <shirish> wow, this is back-breaking work
[10:13] <RAOF> python-gtk2-dbgsym
[10:13] <gnomefreak> and see if there are some for the python depends as well
[10:14] <shirish> lord, now I know why there are so few of you guys
[10:14] <RAOF> Maybe I should whip up a little python script to scrape the dependencies and install all the dbgsym packages.
[10:14] <doko> unless there are security fixes in 6.01, we cannot put it in -proposed. it would have to go into -backports
[10:15] <gnomefreak> doko: ok ill ping jdong in the next few weeks about it ty
[10:15] <doko> shirish, RAOF: either you use the python *-dbg packages and use the python-dbg interpreter, or you use the -dbgsym packages and the python interpreter
[10:15] <doko> don't mix
[10:15] <RAOF> doko: Oh, there's a python-dbg interpreter?  Cool.
[10:15] <gnomefreak> python2.5-dbg
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122771 in gdesklets (universe) "gdesklets-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122771
[10:16] <gnomefreak> if ther eis a such thing
[10:16] <shirish> can somebody please tell me what doko told me in plain english, did he mean to say that -dbg & -dbgsym should not be mixed?
[10:16] <gnomefreak> python-all-dbg
[10:16] <gnomefreak> ^^^
[10:16] <gnomefreak> very nice
[10:16] <gnomefreak> shirish: correct
[10:17] <shirish> ah ok, so now how do I find out which -dbgsym packages I have installed?
[10:17] <gnomefreak> python-all-dbg == Package depending on all supported Python debugging packages
[10:17] <RAOF> gnomefreak: Wicked.
[10:17] <gnomefreak> shirish: history | less
[10:17] <gnomefreak> or shirish the up arrow
[10:17] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:17] <gnomefreak> shirish: use dbg please
[10:17] <RAOF> gnomefreak: Oh, not quite as cool as it might sound. :)
[10:18] <gnomefreak> RAOF: we have ginnea pig lets find out :)
[10:18] <doko> shirish: dpkg -l '*-dbgsym' |grep ^i
[10:18] <gnomefreak> if it works it would be greatest package on earth
[10:19] <RAOF> gnomefreak: It isn't.  It only installs the dbg packages for all the python interpreters.  You can check with "aptitude show python-all-dbg" :)
[10:19] <gnomefreak> shirish: better yet copy and paste the command doko just gave you
[10:19] <shirish> gnomefreak: already did that
[10:19] <gnomefreak> k
[10:19] <gnomefreak> well that sucks
[10:19] <shirish> turns out exaile only has a -dbgsym package no -dbg package yet, so going to uninstall the -dbg packages & only have -dbgsym packages to install
[10:20] <gnomefreak> shirish: yeah
[10:20] <RAOF> Well, I'm off for the evening.  Good luck shirish, gnomefreak :)
[10:20] <shirish> RAOF: I'm going to have lunch in 5 minutes, but bb soon
[10:21] <shirish> gnomefreak: there is a python-all package which I just saw
[10:27] <gnomefreak> shirish: the -all package just installs python2.5-dbg and python2.1-dbg
[10:27] <gnomefreak> 2.4 even
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122772 in vino (main) "vino-preferences crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122772
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122773 in evolution-exchange (main) "outlook meeting invitations no longer working after security update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122773
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122774 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu hangs when MAC restrictions enabled on router" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122774
[10:53] <shirish> back
[10:54] <shirish> gnomefreak: you there buddy?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> sort of i was about to step outside but whats up?
[10:55] <shirish> umm..... I'm still undecided what to do, there are a bunch of packages which have dbgsym packages while a bunch have only -dbg packages, and dunno how to do the backtrace
[10:56] <gnomefreak> shirish: try getting a strace off of it, give me a minute i will try to find the instructions.
[10:56] <shirish> ok cool
[10:58] <gnomefreak> shirish: follow the instrucions under the first section https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Strace
[10:58] <gnomefreak> shirish: install all relvant -dbg or -dbgsym packages (what ever has more or whatever one has exaile -dbg
[10:58] <gnomefreak> )
[10:59] <shirish> gnomefreak: exaile has -dbgsym
[10:59] <gnomefreak> than use teh -dbgsym packages for python and all the others
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122775 in curl (main) "merge curl 7.16-5 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122775
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122776 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "permissions of external harddrives should be ignored" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122776
[11:04] <shirish> gnomefreak: that is what I'm trying to tell you, the -dbgsym is not available for all packages, python2.5 for e.g. has only a -dbg package
[11:05] <shirish> only libglib2.0-0 has a -gdbsym package of the whole lot :(
[11:05] <AzHP> hey, i'm new here, any ideas on what bugs i can work on?
[11:06] <shirish> AzHP: welcome, I'm also new here, perhaps gnomefreak can guide you
[11:06] <seb128> shirish: that's not normal, dbgsym should be built for everything
[11:07] <shirish> seb128: I'm on gutsy, should that explain things a bit
[11:07] <seb128> no
[11:07] <seb128> what package has no dbgsym?
[11:07] <shirish> hang on, lemme get the list
[11:08] <shirish>  sudo aptitude install libglib2.0-0-dbgsym python-all-dbgsym python-dbgsym python2.4-dbgsym python2.5-dbgsym
[11:09] <shirish> of this whole lot only libglib2.0-0-dbgsym was installed, the rest of them were not
[11:09] <shirish> did not have any -dbgsym files, they do have -dbg files though
[11:10] <shirish> seb128:  sudo aptitude install libglib2.0-0-dbgsym python-all-dbgsym python-dbgsym python2.4-dbgsym python2.5-dbgsym. Of this whole lot only libglib2.0-0-dbgsym was installed, the rest of them did not have any -dbgsym files, they do have -dbg files though.
[11:10] <seb128> shirish: python might be buggy and the dbgsym doesn't get built
[11:10] <shirish> aha, ok
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122777 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "no sound after upgrade from 2.6.20-15 to 2.6.20-16" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122777
[11:11] <shirish> seb128: then I'm in a fix, can't do anything about exaile
[11:11] <seb128> why do you need a python dbg package?
[11:11] <shirish> seb128: while you are here, can you tell me how I can tell the difference between a python program, a script & a normal program
[11:12] <seb128> no, I don't understand the question
[11:12] <seb128> python is only a language
[11:12] <_spin> look at the shebang line?
[11:12] <shirish> seb128: oh, I was trying to debug exaile which from various people is a python 2.5 program
[11:12] <seb128> you can have a program in C or C++ or C# or perl or python
[11:12] <seb128> it's coded in python yes
[11:13] <Gasten> a script is generally shorter and not so complicated?
[11:13] <Gasten> in opposion to a program in python.
[11:13] <_spin> maybe scripts don't use main?
[11:13] <seb128> ?
[11:14] <_spin> I don't know, like shirish said, it's just a language... there's difference between a script and a program, they're all scripts and programs
[11:14] <_spin> *there's no
[11:14] <shirish> _spin: I didn't say anything, this is what was told to me.
[11:15] <seb128> shirish: can you copy what was told to you exactly, I don't understand your question
[11:15] <_spin> oops, I meant seb128
[11:15] <seb128> if you face a bug with exaile just open a bug
[11:16] <seb128> and attach the crash information for apport to it
[11:16] <shirish> seb128: already did, and you told me to get back a backtrace of it
[11:16] <seb128> so get a backtrace
[11:16] <seb128> gdb program
[11:16] <seb128> (gdb) run
[11:16] <seb128> crach
[11:16] <seb128> (gdb) thread apply all bt full
[11:16] <AzHP> \
[11:16] <AzHP> \
[11:16] <AzHP> \
[11:16] <AzHP> \
[11:16] <AzHP> \
[11:16] <AzHP> \
[11:16] <AzHP> \
[11:16] <AzHP> \
[11:16] <AzHP> \
[11:16] <seb128> !op
[11:16] <AzHP> \
[11:16] <ubotu> Help!  Not his fault. I'm sorry on his behalf. mirc went screwy
[11:18] <seb128> _spin: ?
[11:18] <_spin> azhp's slash attack
[11:18] <_spin> thing
[11:18] <seb128> you know him?
[11:18] <seb128> looks like a flood to me
[11:18] <_spin> it wasn't intentional
[11:19] <_spin> yes, I know him. I was trying to convince him to join the bug team.
[11:19] <seb128> shirish: there is no extra comment on this bug
[11:19] <_spin> so he can get his feet wet in open source
[11:19] <seb128> _spin: good, maybe make him use an open source IRC client :p
[11:20] <dholbach> shirish: did you check the upstream bug tracker of exaile?
[11:20] <shirish> dholbach: no, did not check that
[11:20] <_spin> yeah, well, sorry. I'll tell him to get ubuntu set up and to get in here on irssi/x-chat or something
[11:20] <shirish> dholbach: also don't know what should I be checking for
[11:20] <dholbach> maybe they know about it already?
[11:20] <seb128> shirish: your bug is not good because you were running 2.6.22-6-generic which is buggy
[11:20] <shirish> dholbach: possible
[11:20] <shirish> seb128: now its on 2.6.22-7-generic
[11:21] <seb128> shirish: if you update to 2.6.22-7 apport crash collection should work again
[11:21] <seb128> shirish: so get a new apport file
[11:21] <shirish> seb128: oh its working, ok cool
[11:21] <dholbach> woohoo
[11:21] <_spin> his cat stood on his keyboard.
[11:22] <seb128> classic :)
[11:22] <_spin> ah whatever. Whose the best person to talk to about getting someone set up with some bugs to work on?
[11:23] <seb128> bdmurray or dholbach
[11:23] <shirish> seb128: should I try to send the complete report?
[11:23] <shirish> its an 8 mb file
[11:23] <seb128> shirish: you got a new one? if you are ok uploading it yes
[11:23] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20070627 still has some
[11:24] <shirish> seb128: yup, the crash is pretty easy to reproduce
[11:24] <seb128> dholbach: "server" might not be the easier start
[11:24] <dholbach> seb128: there are others at the end, no?
[11:25] <seb128> dholbach: yeah but the remaining one don't look that easy
[11:26] <shirish> I wish we had an upload progress bar or some kind of percentage thing rather than this wacky bar which we have atm.
[11:27] <shirish> talking about apport 0.85
[11:29] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bugs has a couple of lists of bugs - best to start with packages that you know well
[11:29] <dholbach> so it's easy for you to try to confirm bugs
[11:32] <shirish> dholbach: seb128: can you guys look at this blueprint for apport & suggest what can be done for its uptake? https://blueprints.beta.launchpad.net/apport/+spec/apport
[11:32] <shirish> I know this is outside your domain, but still it would be helpful to guys like me who are not on the speediest of DSL & stuff
[11:32] <seb128> shirish: better to talk to pitti about apport, he's the one working on it
[11:33] <shirish> seb128: have talked to him on it quite a bit, was thinking if you guys could kinda look at it & see where it can be improved or something.
[11:34] <dholbach> I just had a look at the upstream bug tracker - there's not much that indicates the crash there
[11:34] <shirish> dholbach: thanx :)
[11:34] <seb128> shirish: looks like a good request
[11:35] <shirish> seb128: I know, i worked on it  for about a month, i'm not sure what martin is thinking about it
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122780 in notification-daemon (main) "notification-daemon crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122780
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122781 in evolution (main) "Edit Rule dialog has two A hotkeys" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122781
[11:35] <shirish> meant martin pitti
[11:35] <dholbach> and not in debian either
[11:37] <shirish> dholbach: perhaps it has to do with the fact that it is/was playing an .mp3 file/playlist? although don't know why that should concern it when i'm quitting the program.
[11:38] <shirish> dholbach: exaile crashes while its being quit not otherwise.
[11:39] <shirish> seb128: dholbach: seems today is just not my day
[11:39] <shirish> apport just gave up on me
[11:39] <dholbach> shirish: the spec makes sense
[11:39] <shirish> Could not upload report data to crash database:
[11:39] <shirish> HTTP Error 502: Bad Gateway
[11:39] <seb128> shirish: maybe sent the small crash version then
[11:40] <shirish> seb128: should I rm the crash file from /var/crash & then crash it again?
[11:40] <seb128> that's one way to do it
[11:41] <shirish> seb128: do you have any other idea?
[11:43] <seb128> you can touch the crash file and run apport-gtk then
[11:43] <shirish> seb128: I do that all the time, apport-gtk normally dies on me anything over 2 mb :(
[11:44] <seb128> choice the small version without the crashcore
[11:44] <shirish> that's the only way I guess for now :(
[11:44] <shirish> although i should tell that I can download/upload 5 GB through torrent clients without an issue
[11:45] <seb128> not sure what doesn't work
[11:45] <seb128> there is plently of people sending bug with crashdump without any problem
[11:45] <shirish> seb128: I know perhaps it might have to do something with the fact that im on ipv4
[11:46] <seb128> everybody is on ipv4
[11:46] <shirish> and have only 64 kbps upload speeds
[11:46] <shirish> i thought the developed world had all moved to ipv6
[11:47] <shirish> seb128: somebody seems to have already reported it , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exaile/+bug/122581
[11:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122581 in exaile "exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV in PyThreadState_New()" [Medium,Incomplete]
[11:47] <shirish> atleast the crash headings look the same.
[11:48] <seb128> shirish: ok, no need of a new bug then
[11:48] <seb128> what do you do to trigger the bug? maybe you can add a comment with details on it
[11:48] <shirish> on the bug-report filed above you mean
[11:49] <dholbach> yeah
[11:49] <shirish> ok cool
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122783 in network-manager (main) "Network Manager gives no option to change incorrect network details" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122783
[12:04] <shiris1> sorry guys my desktop had freezed over
[12:04] <shiris1> seb128: I just made a comment on it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exaile/+bug/122581
[12:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122581 in exaile "exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV in PyThreadState_New()" [Medium,Incomplete]
[12:05] <seb128> shiris1: thanks
[12:05] <shiris1> seb128: do you remember the command for taking back your nick
[12:05] <seb128> no
[12:06] <shiris1> ok thanx anyway
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122784 in network-manager (main) "Network Manager not restarted when switching between static and roaming Locations" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122784
[12:11] <shirish> ok guys, off for now, seb128 gnomefreak dholbach thanx all for your time, patience & love :)
[12:11] <gnomefreak> shirish: np
[12:11] <shirish> I might bother you guys again a bit tomorrow but guess you guys have earned some time off from trouble-makers like me
[12:12] <dholbach> shirish: have a nice day
[12:13] <shirish> and if you guys can push that spec. https://blueprints.beta.launchpad.net/apport/+spec/apport then it would be really cool :P
[12:13] <seb128> see you
[12:13] <shirish> adios :)
[12:14] <gnomefreak> the privacy is already implemented i thought
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122786 in evince (main) "[gutsy]  very hi cpu usage when scrolling pdf" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122786
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122787 in totem (main) "Video shows with a blue tinge" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122787
[12:29] <Gasten> Should this be assigned to motu-mono, or the desktop team? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono/+bug/122493
[12:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122493 in mono "Package "Desktop Flickr Organizer" for Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]
[12:29] <Gasten> erh... that one.
[12:29] <dholbach> the mono team
[12:30] <Gasten> Ok. The desktop team deals more with stuff that appears in ubuntu out of the box?
[12:30] <dholbach> mostly gnome and related things
[12:31] <dholbach> but since we have a mono team, they are subscribed on the mono bugs anyway
[12:31] <Gasten> Ah.
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122792 in banshee (universe) "banshee.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_clear()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122792
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122793 in synaptic (main) "synaptic window won't display properly sometimes and ubuntu freezes user interface when compiz is used" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122793
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122794 in gshare (universe) "gshare-manager.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_clear()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122794
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122795 in brasero (universe) "notify tips not updated while checking integrity" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122795
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122797 in notification-daemon (main) "Apparently I moved to a different workspace, using compiz cube and something crashed. I didn't notice any crash in anyways. It just said application crashed." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122797
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122796 in ltsp (main) "ltsp default dhcpd.conf broken on tribe2 installs" [High,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122796
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122798 in apport (main) "test-apport crashed with AssertionError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122798
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122799 in compiz (main) "Compiz Fusion Error on Atualization" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122799
[01:46] <Gasten> Is bugzilla.gnome.org down today, or what?
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122800 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Please consider enabling HugeTBLFS for Gutsy " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122800
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122801 in gnat-4.1 (universe) "package needs a manual build on the buildd" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122801
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122802 in pioneers (universe) "Pioneers puts in double menu entries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122802
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122804 in lsongs (universe) "encode crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122804
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122805 in Ubuntu "Terminal Server Client error on logout" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122805
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122806 in sun-java5 (multiverse) "Eclipse bugfix requires Java 1.5.0_08" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122806
[02:39] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: ping
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122808 in music-applet (universe) "music-applet crashed with GError in __show()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122808
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122810 in upgrade-system (universe) "DistUpgradeControler.FreeSpace: not enough free space on /usr (missing 120M)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122810
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122811 in slab (universe) "A setting or keyboard hotkey to keep the window open after opening an application" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122811
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122813 in firefox (main) "Sending a newspaper homepage using an e-mail link on page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122813
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122814 in notification-daemon (main) "notification-daemon crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() (dup-of: 122637)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122814
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122815 in glibc (main) "nscd daemon stops on 64-bit amd works fine 32-bit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122815
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #113077 in nautilus ""Create Launcher" dialog has Panel class, breaking Elegance theme" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113077
[03:19] <seb128> TheMuso: no need to change the maintainer when you do a fake sync
[03:20] <TheMuso> seb128: Oh ok.
[03:20] <Hobbsee> hi seb128
[03:20] <seb128> hey Hobbsee
[03:20] <seb128> how is that going for you?
[03:20] <Hobbsee> seb128: busy, but great :D
[03:20] <Hobbsee> seb128: if you're talking about ubuntuworld :)
[03:20] <seb128> same for me ;)
[03:21] <Hobbsee> seb128: if you're talking about workworld...well, i just wish it was acceptable conduct to bash people over the head with large pieces of concrete
[03:22] <seb128> too many users? ;)
[03:22] <seb128> yeah, workwold is not always easy
[03:22] <ogra> seb128, id the desktop effects setting a gconf key ? i wonder how hard it would be to have an option like wished in bug #122094
[03:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122094 in gnome-power-manager "Disable compiz/beryl on switch to battery" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122094
[03:23] <seb128> ogra: no it's not
[03:23] <seb128> ogra: compiz is not supposed to eat extra CPU
[03:24] <ogra> ah, k i'll close it with that comment
[03:25] <seb128> maybe ask mvo what he thinks about it
[03:25] <Hobbsee> seb128: i dont work in software.  the only computer hardware that we have, and use, is some windows NT4 systems.
[03:26] <seb128> Hobbsee: yeah, the "too many users" was about "ubuntuworld"
[03:26] <Hobbsee> seb128: ahhh.
[03:26] <Hobbsee> seb128: no, just not enough of the sort of users that i want.
[03:26] <mvo> seb128: hm, nice idea
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122816 in Ubuntu "cups 32bit library not available for 64bit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122816
[03:27] <mvo> ogra: you could just diable all plugins except for a whitelist (decoration, move, resize etc)
[03:27] <ogra> mvo, will the plugins eat power ?
[03:28] <ogra> mvo, if seb128 is right we dont need it at all
[03:28] <ogra> it would just be an option to show off with but with not much use
[03:28] <mvo> ogra: well, I assume it will require a bit more energy as it requires the gpu to do some more work, but I guess we should do some measurements first
[03:28] <ogra> yeah
[03:28] <seb128> mvo: you might want to subscribe to the compiz* packages on launchpad
[03:29] <ogra> have toi do them for the classmate anyway
[03:29] <ogra> so i can come up with some numbers soon
[03:29] <seb128> mvo: I did subscribe you to some bugs since you seem to not get them ;)
[03:29] <mvo> seb128: I do not read my bugmail currently, too much work :(
[03:30] <mvo> I look into recent-bugs in compiz though
[03:30] <mvo> in the web UI
[03:30] <seb128> mvo: how do you know if compiz is working for users? ;)
[03:30] <seb128> ah
[03:30] <seb128> those were on fusion
[03:30] <seb128> bug #122414
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122818 in apport (main) "fails to upload if packages are out of date" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122818
[03:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122414 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main "Some Compiz-Fusion plugins are not built correctly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122414
[03:44] <shirish> calling from mars, calling seb128
[03:44] <shirish> :)
[03:45] <shirish> seb128: made contributions to  bug 122688
[03:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122688 in gnome-speech "produces empty core dumps" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122688
[03:47] <shirish> anybody has any idea where martin pitti hangs out?
[03:49] <Hobbsee> shirish: his irc nick is pitti
[03:50] <shirish> Hobbsee: I know, just trying to find him, I'm in 3 places & I can't see to spot him
[03:50] <shirish> seem
[03:51] <DarkMageZ> shirish, you can find users using the /who <username> command
[03:51] <shirish> ah thanx
[03:51] <shirish> /who pitti
[03:55] <shirish> DarkMageZ: I am unfamiliar with that command, can you elaborate in this instance?
[03:55] <DarkMageZ> hmm. it works under xchat.
[03:56] <shirish> it seems to not work under pidgin or I need to work something more.
[03:56] <shirish> something else
[03:56] <Hobbsee> use /whois
[03:56] <shirish> ah thanx
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122819 in apport (main) "test-apport crashed with AssertionError in check_crash()" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122819
[04:12] <ubotu> New bug: #122820 in Ubuntu "[gusty]  glxinfo crashes with segfault" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122820
[04:12] <ubotu> New bug: #122822 in sun-java5 (multiverse) "package sun-java5-jre 1.5.0-12-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122822
[04:13] <ubotu> New bug: #122821 in Ubuntu "boot from Feisty LiveCD over NFS fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122821
[04:45] <bdmurray> lastlog seb128
[04:45] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: pong
[04:45] <seb128> bdmurray: ?
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122825 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany crashed with SIGSEGV in raise() while updating filter list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122825
[04:45] <bdmurray> seb128: too early - you pinged a while ago?
[04:46] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: could you give pygi and manchicken -qa status please?
[04:46] <seb128> bdmurray: no, IIRC somebody asked who to talk to to join the bugsquad and I replied you or dholbach
[04:46] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: pygi is the cd* triager, and used to have them before he dropped his membership with ubuntu, and manchicken is the main coder of adept
[04:46] <manchicken> Ooh, can I have a pony, too?
[04:47] <bdmurray> Are those their launchpad names or just irc? Search lp for people is hard
[04:47] <ScottK> manchicken: No pony until adept isn't slow.
[04:49] <manchicken> ScottK: Compared to how slow adept COULD be, it's running at the speed of light.
[04:49] <manchicken> ScottK: And making it not slow would require a complete STL-ectomy.
[04:50] <manchicken> People using STL classes with KDE apps is like driving a 1987 Honda Civic when you've got a perfectly good brand spankin' new Porsche in the driveway.
[04:51] <manchicken> The STL thing is also why unicode support in adept is so poor.
[04:51] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: it's not that bad.  https://launchpad.net/~manchicken is one
[04:51] <manchicken> But I suppose there will always be a certain amount of that, as libapt-front is using STL.
[04:52] <bdmurray> ah cool, sometimes lp name isn't IRC name isn't real name and I get confused
[04:52] <manchicken> libapt-front using STL makes sense though.  Adept using STL for purposes other than directly interfacing with libapt-front though is kinda stupid.
[04:52] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: https://launchpad.net/~mario-danic/ is the other
[04:52] <manchicken> bdmurray: I'm just intuitive like that :)
[04:52] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: yeah - i didnt find hsi on the search thing
[04:53] <manchicken> My wife even calls me manchicken every once in a while.
[04:53] <bdmurray> heh
[04:53] <ScottK> Except when manchicken is dadchicken...
[04:54] <manchicken> This is true.
[04:54] <manchicken> I haven't used dadchicken in a while.
[04:54] <manchicken> That was fun though :)
[04:55] <manchicken> It was very fun celebrating at UDS :)
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122827 in nautilus (main) "Don't allow access to hidden files" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122827
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122828 in azureus (universe) "auto_message on desktop:"Azureus did not shutdown tidily"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122828
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122829 in gnash (universe) "gnash crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122829
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122830 in firefox (main) "Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> closes tab when click tapping touchpad" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122830
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122831 in gnome-panel (main) "Can't see bottom of select Language during an install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122831
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122833 in gnome-panel (main) "Program does not execute." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122833
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122834 in Ubuntu "FTDI USB Serial Device converter disconnects" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122834
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122835 in gnome-panel (main) "tooltip blick when mouse is over desktop switcher" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122835
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122836 in openoffice.org (main) "erro em arquivo ppt" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122836
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122838 in Ubuntu "[WISH]  Include support for RT61 wireless chipset by default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122838
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122839 in sjfonts (universe) "Please sync sjfonts (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122839
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122840 in gnome-panel (main) "unable to configure sound system - no sound" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122840
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122841 in Ubuntu "Shares-admin dont remember.." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122841
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122843 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "probleme suppression mail imap" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122843
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122844 in pptp-linux (main) "pptp crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122844
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122845 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122845
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122846 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "ccsm crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_prepare()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122846
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122847 in beagle (main) "Search.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_clear()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122847
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122848 in firefox (main) "doesnt recognize dash "-" in URL" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122848
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122851 in xfce4-xkb-plugin (main) "xfce4-xkb-plugin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122851
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122852 in ecryptfs-utils (universe) "[gusty gibbon]  Ecryptfs Hangs during file save" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122852
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122854 in moodss (universe) "moodss lacks dependancy on libtktable-dev" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122854
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122855 in evolution (main) "evolution-alarm-notify crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122855
[06:57] <shirish> anybody has any bugs they would like me to test or confirm?
[06:57] <shirish> on gutsy though
[06:57] <Hobbsee> shirish: start here... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=datecreated&field.status%3Alist=New&field.status%3Alist=Incomplete&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_contact=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=&field.has_cve.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&search=Search
[06:58] <jerome_> shirish : could you please try to install slune and balazar on gutsy, and see if you can launch them without crashing
[06:58] <jerome_> please
[06:58] <jerome_> ?
[06:59] <shirish> jerome_: ok cool, would do in a moment
[07:00] <jerome_> shirish : thx !
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122856 in libbonobo (main) "compiz crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122856
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122858 in glib2.0 (main) "[gutsy]  glib2.0 applications crash with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122858
[07:17] <shirish> jerome_: slune doesn't launch
[07:18] <shirish> jerome_: have you reported the bug somewhere?
[07:20] <jerome_> shirish : well they are already somebugs on it
[07:20] <jerome_> shirish : and balazar ?
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122859 in apport (main) "should ignore files under /var/lib/schroot/mount" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122859
[07:21] <shirish> jerome_: installing it, I do have the traceback if needed, dunno if I should report it or just add it to an existing bug
[07:21] <jerome_> shirish : can you run it in a terminal and give me the output ?
[07:21] <shirish> jerome_: sure, lemme paste it somewhere
[07:22] <jerome_> shirish : and please pastebin the trace so I can see if it's the same
[07:22] <jerome_> shirish : thx
[07:22] <shirish> jerome_: no issues :)
[07:22] <shirish> jerome_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27648/
[07:24] <jerome_> shirish : ok this has already been reported upstream thx : https://gna.org/bugs/?9180
[07:24] <shirish> ok cool
[07:25] <jerome_> shirish : got to go now, thx for your help !
[07:25] <shirish> jerome_: where do I put the balazar stuff if it comes up?
[07:26] <jerome_> shirish : well open a new bug, I will triage it later, thx
[07:26] <shirish> jerome_: ok cool :)
[07:26] <jerome_> shirish : bye
[07:26] <shirish> jerome_: bye
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122860 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-draw 2.2.1~rc3-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade:   --   " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122860
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122863 in texlive-bin (main) "package texlive-base-bin 2007-11 failed to install/upgrade: post-installation script spawns thousands of processes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122863
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122864 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice spreadsheet "move" changes font" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122864
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122865 in Ubuntu "USB Keyboard & Mouse random simultaneous lockups " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122865
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122866 in balazar (universe) "balazar crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122866
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122867 in Ubuntu "lvm snapshot failed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122867
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122868 in ubiquity (main) "installer hangs when partitioning manually" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122868
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122870 in Ubuntu "Package Sunbird 0.5 in Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122870
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122872 in xchat-gnome (main) "xchat-gnome crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122872
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122873 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "ccsm crashed with AttributeError in DoReset()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122873
[08:07] <ubotu> New bug: #122869 in compiz (main) "compiz seg-faults on starting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122869
[08:14] <Kmos> !info sunbird
[08:14] <ubotu> Package sunbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122875 in evolution (main) "evolution-alarm-notify crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() (dup-of: 122855)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122875
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122878 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122878
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122879 in scgi (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync scgi (1.12-0.2) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122879
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122880 in at-spi (main) "at-spi-registryd crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122880
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122881 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122881
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122882 in apport (main) "apport is a pain" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122882
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122883 in Ubuntu "kopete crashes when close a tab" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122883
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122884 in Ubuntu "new page style lost when document closes; "convert1" found instead" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122884
[09:02] <shirish> I need somebody who can confirm this bug 122565
[09:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122565 in unifont "unifont-bin is not able to find /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc directory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122565
[09:02] <shirish> or if not tell me if I need to provide some more info. something.
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122885 in apache2 (main) "New a2enpkg / a2dispkg script should be written" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122885
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122887 in pinentry (universe) "pinentry-gtk-2 crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122887
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122888 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122888
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122889 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122889
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122890 in aptitude (main) "aptitude: backspace doesnt work in search mode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122890
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122891 in openoffice.org (main) "Openoffice.org abruptly exits with code 0116" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122891
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122892 in restricted-manager (main) "restricted-manager 0.23 postinst script fails if group admin already exists" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122892
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122893 in soya (universe) "Impossible to import soya module" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122893
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122894 in Ubuntu "Crash reported when trying to install into VMware Server virtual machine" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122894
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122895 in libapache-mod-jk (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync libapache-mod-jk (1:1.2.23-3) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122895
[09:56] <tsmithe> hmm. i'm wondering about these segfaults in glibc's g_logv()...
[09:57] <tsmithe> as there's at least one other person encountering them, i'm guessing either we have something in common that is problematic in the system, or it's more widespread, just not more widely reported
[10:00] <bdmurray> tsmithe: what bug is that?
[10:00] <tsmithe> oops sorry
[10:00] <tsmithe> bug 122858
[10:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122858 in glib2.0 "[gutsy]  glib2.0 applications crash with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122858
[10:00] <bdmurray> I thought I saw one in g_logv() yesterday
[10:00] <tsmithe> then there's bug 122855
[10:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122855 in evolution "evolution-alarm-notify crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122855
[10:00] <tsmithe> bug 122389
[10:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122389 in compiz "gtk-window-decorator crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122389
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122896 in alsa-driver (main) "stereo sound is upmixed to 5.1 by default on hda nvidia (nforce)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122896
[10:00] <tsmithe> bug 122683
[10:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122683 in gnash "gnash crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122683
[10:00] <bdmurray> bug 122637
[10:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122637 in notification-daemon "notification-daemon crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122637
[10:01] <tsmithe> they are all crashing in g_logv()
[10:01] <tsmithe> seb128 thinks bug 122858 is an xorg issue
[10:02] <seb128> tsmithe: I don't know, but there is no indication that would be a glib bug
[10:02] <tsmithe> no - i don't know enough about it except what's given in the backtraces there
[10:02] <seb128> and g_log is a glib (GNOME) function, not a glibc one
[10:02] <tsmithe> and i can't find a trigger
[10:03] <tsmithe> did i assign it to glibc?
[10:03] <tsmithe> oops
[10:03] <seb128> no
 hmm. i'm wondering about these segfaults in glibc's g_logv()...
[10:03] <tsmithe> well, that was a typo heh
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122898 in knetworkmanager (main) ""Configure VPN..." requires network-manager-gnome" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122898
[10:17] <coNP> good night bughuggers
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122899 in totem (main) "pelicula no verse bien, aparece y desaparece imagen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122899
[10:25] <seb128> tsmithe: that's not a segfault (sig11) by the way
[10:26] <tsmithe> sorry
[10:26] <tsmithe> sigtrap :)
[10:26] <tsmithe> i'm not on top of things tonight, obviously :)
[10:27] <seb128> tsmithe: np, do you know when those happen usually?
[10:28] <tsmithe> no. it's completely out of the blue. i really don't know why or when it happens, which frustrates me. processes just seem to die
[10:30] <seb128> having a valgrind log could be nice if you trigger the bug
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122900 in mod-frontpage-mirfak (universe) "[Remove]  Please remove the listed apache1 modules from gutsy" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122900
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122901 in compiz (main) "Cant set horizontal virtual size to 4 or vertical to 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122901
[10:41] <TLE> if the symptoms of a bug has disappeared from say edgy to feisty, but without the bugreport containing any information about a fix, then do I mark it "invalid" or di I just assume that there has been a fix involved and mark it "fix commited" ?
[10:45] <seb128> TLE: "fix commited" is when the bug has been fixed but not in Ubuntu yet, so you would use "Fix Released"
[10:45] <seb128> TLE: and usually we use "invalid"
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122902 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() (dup-of: 122858)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122902
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122903 in rivet (universe) "[Remove]  Please remove rivet from gutsy." [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122903
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122904 in compiz (main) "No easy way to install compiz on Kubuntu Tride 2 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122904
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122905 in synaptic (main) "Synaptic will not select additional packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122905
[10:52] <TLE> seb128: right. Ok so when there is no "fix" in issue I should probably use "invalid" thanks
[10:52] <seb128> you're welcome
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122906 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122906
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122907 in krb5 (main) "Please sync krb5 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122907
[10:59] <bdmurray> seb128: so what more is needed for the g_logv() ?
[11:00] <seb128> bdmurray: a way to trigger the bug or a valgrind log
[11:02] <bdmurray> seb128: apport isn't that helpful in this case?
[11:02] <seb128> bdmurray: no
[11:02] <seb128> that's not a segfault
[11:02] <seb128> and I'm not sure of what's going on
[11:03] <seb128> the backtraces are all differents
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122908 in update-manager (main) "update-manager crashed with NameError in runDistUpgrader()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122908
[11:07] <bdmurray> I notice you use a common valgrind reply is that in !responses?
[11:07] <bdmurray> or w.u.c/Bugs/Responses rather
[11:07] <seb128> I don't think so
[11:07] <seb128> it's in my greasmonkey list ;)
[11:08] <seb128> I'll add one to the wiki
[11:08] <bdmurray> Great, then I'll reply to the signal 5 bugs so we can see what is going on
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122909 in notification-daemon (main) "notification-daemon crashed with signal 5 in IA__g_log()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122909
[11:16] <seb128> bdmurray: wiki updated
[11:18] <bdmurray> seb128: thanks, I was already grabbing it. :)
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122910 in hiki (universe) "Please sync hiki (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122910
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122912 in notification-daemon (main) "notification-daemon crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() (dup-of: 122637)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122912
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122914 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-app-install crashed with TypeError in show_description()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122914
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122915 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122915
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122916 in vino (main) "vino-preferences crashed with signal 5 in IA__g_log()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122916
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122917 in Ubuntu "Network manager falsly reports "No network connection" after hibernation on Tribe-2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122917