[00:00] <linkmaster03> soundray: how do I exit them?
[00:00] <soundray> arakthor: did the reinstall process show any errors?
[00:00] <arakthor> soundray, nope :o
[00:00] <arakthor> I'm thinking a .tgz from the gimp project will have the files, but I'm not sure if they are all stored in the same place
[00:01] <fortune82> can anyone even see this text? or do i have to register?
[00:01] <soundray> linkmaster03: you end the programs that screen runs. If they are e.g. shells, you type 'exit'
[00:01] <mythril> I upgraded my kernel and sound stopped working (ubuntu 7.10) what do I do?
[00:01] <fortune82> NickServe
[00:01] <fortune82> NickServ
[00:01] <linkmaster03> soundray: i typed screen -wipe and all my sessions are still there when I type screen -ls
[00:01] <fortune82> NickServ fortune82
[00:02] <mythril> fortune82: we can see you
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> !register | fortune82
[00:02] <soundray> arakthor: gimp-data is the package that populates /usr/share/gimp
[00:02] <fortune82> I'm so confused right now
[00:02] <fortune82> >.<
[00:02] <chrome> hey guys, anyone here running Ubuntu on a mac pro?
[00:02]  * BABA_RECORD hey all
[00:02] <Flannel> fortune82: /msg nickserv help
[00:02] <soundray> linkmaster03: screen -wipe only removes traces of screen processes that don't have any running subprocesses any more.
[00:03] <andycas> How to locate a file in a specific dir?
[00:03] <Daviey> fortune82: you only need to register/identify to send private messages (although it is recommended anyway)
[00:03] <soundray> andycas: can you elaborate?
[00:03] <linkmaster03> soundray: well how can I totally delete these old sessions?
[00:03] <arakthor> soundray, k thx
[00:03] <BABA_RECORD> need to know what mssng did i need to use , because i cant open the webcam
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> andycas: one way: "ls /dir | grep filename"
[00:03] <soundray> linkmaster03: by attaching them and exiting the programs that run inside them
[00:03] <jengelh2> Odd-rationale: don't use |grep
[00:03] <andycas> soundray: I want to search for a .config in one specific dir
[00:03] <jengelh2> at least, not in scripts
[00:04] <soundray> andycas: find /specific/dir -name .config
[00:04] <arakthor> soundray, it was already installed as well
[00:04] <Alan_M> fortune82, what are you trying to do buddy? We can help you if we know what your trying to attempt :)
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> jengelh2: i meant just for shell command... what is wrong with piping through grep? Just curious....
[00:04] <soundray> arakthor: so do a reinstall
[00:04]  * BABA_RECORD help i need to know what meesenger had to use to open the webcam
[00:04] <BABA_RECORD> oo
[00:04] <arakthor> yeh, working on it
[00:04] <fortune82> Ala_M, i said it about 4 times
[00:05] <jengelh2> Odd-rationale: it's only important for scripts;  http://jengelh.medozas.de/articles/recurring-errors-sh.php
[00:05] <fortune82> Ubuntu 8.04 boots up into the Command screen instead of the GUI
[00:05] <mythril> I upgraded my kernel and sound stopped working (ubuntu 7.10) what do I do?
[00:05] <Odd-rationale> jengelh2: k, i'll take a look...
[00:05] <arakthor> excellent. that worked. thanks soundray
[00:05] <jengelh2> i'm collecting more, so if you happen to throw something in :P
[00:06] <pucko-> mythril, probably an alsa issue..
[00:06] <Shadow_Ice> anyone tell me what my problem is. i start to install Ubuntu and after a while it tells me its creating image and then everytime it gets close to 100% done it says "cant access cd please make sure nothing else is using the current drive" and then starts over.
[00:06] <pucko-> mythril, do asoundconf list, and then asoundconf set-default-card <insert card from earlier>
[00:07] <BABA_RECORD> a ju qifsha motrta
[00:07]  * BABA_RECORD o what to use for msn , to open the webcam
[00:07]  * BABA_RECORD o what to use for msn , to open the webcam
[00:07] <BABA_RECORD> *** Notice -- Client connecting on port 6667: TWN|18919<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[clients]
[00:07] <BABA_RECORD> :S
[00:07] <sFEARs> i can't seem to find the sound setting to enable/disable IEC958.  can anyone help me?
[00:07] <fortune82> boots up into the Command screen instead of the GUI -- How to fix it?
[00:08] <chrome> guys I can't use TAB in grub while booted from the liveCD in a gnome-terminal, any suggestions?
[00:08] <pucko-> fortune82, you could try reconfigure X
[00:08] <fortune82> i'll try that
[00:08] <fortune82> thanks for at least answering me
[00:08] <hennessy> Why cant I see the users in the channel?
[00:09] <pucko-> fortune82, not much to go on in your question.. try "startx" from console and get back to us with the error message.
[00:11] <pucko-> chrome, you can't use what?
[00:11] <BABA_RECORD> pucko
[00:11] <chrome> pucko-: tab key
[00:11] <BABA_RECORD> what messenger do you use
[00:11] <chrome> pucko-: its just inserting tab characters in grub :P
[00:11] <jengelh2> irssi.
[00:12] <pucko-> chrome, you mean it works in xterm? not sure I understand
[00:12] <chrome> pucko-: you know in grub, you can use tab to do completions?
[00:12] <chrome> pucko-: if I use it, instead of giving completions, it just tabs over
[00:13] <soundray> chrome: only when you've booted with grub.
[00:13] <pucko-> oh I see, didn't know that
[00:13] <soundray> chrome: it doesn't work when you start the grub shell from within a running OS
[00:13] <chrome> ok, great
[00:13] <BABA_RECORD> chrome what messenger are you using
[00:13] <chrome> well that explains that.
[00:13] <yoshimit> Hi all... I'm trying to install nvidia driver on Ubuntu 8.04 64bits, but after install without errors I cant change screen resolution... any help, plz?
[00:13] <soundray> chrome: I guess it makes sense, since grub can't read a filesystem directly in this mode
[00:14] <teth> I would like to get some help with my laptop memorycardreader problem, how can I get it work with hardy heron?
[00:14] <chrome> soundray: sort of. It does tell you that you can use the tab key when you start it in a term window, so one expects you can
[00:14] <chrome> breaks the principle of least surprise
[00:14] <soundray> yoshimit: try setting up your screen properties with gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[00:14] <yoshimit> soundray: trying...
[00:14] <soundray> chrome: you've found a bug then.
[00:15] <sFEARs> i can't seem to find the sound setting to enable/disable IEC958.  can anyone help me?
[00:15] <yooshi> does ubuntu-gnome come with wine already packaged?
[00:15] <chrome> well. maybe. I did thnk it was something to do with the fact i'm using a mac pro keyboard
[00:15] <Odd-rationale> yooshi: no
[00:15] <konrad1991> hello
[00:15] <soundray> yooshi: packaged yes, installed, no
[00:15] <yooshi> ah, well how do I install it?
[00:15] <Odd-rationale> yooshi: sudo apt-get install wine
[00:15] <yooshi> if its packaged then I shouldn't need to download it right?
[00:15] <MrKeuner> hi all is ubuntu using more energy than windows? I read 4400 batteries should give 3-4 hours while mine gives 1.5 hour at most. Or is my battery crippled?
[00:16]  * BABA_RECORD i need help with Pidgin Internet Messenger : that dont support webcam service plz help me
[00:16] <Odd-rationale> yooshi: or use synaptics
[00:16] <yooshi> ah ok
[00:16] <yooshi> btw pidgin is great, but it doesn't have some automatic features
[00:16] <tommy_> if I only install new things using "apt-get" can I be confident that they are clean applications being installed?
[00:16] <konrad1991> i have broken DVD drive, but i need to install Ubuntu, can i use pendrive to install Ubuntu to hard disk?
[00:16] <Odd-rationale> yooshi: consider xchat
[00:17] <yooshi> ewww
[00:17] <yoshimit> soundray: hmmm... I tried that before... every resolution that I try gives me an invalid configuration msg error...
[00:17] <Odd-rationale> konrad1991: yes. see "/msg ubottu install" for detials.
[00:17]  * yooshi got frostwire and it doesn't work
[00:17] <yooshi> yet... I think terminal would show some errors
[00:17] <soundray> MrKeuner: Ubuntu may use more energy than Windows because it tends to wake up the CPU from power saving states more frequently. You can trace such behaviour with powertop
[00:17] <konrad1991> Odd-rationale: thanks....
[00:18] <tommy_> !keepass
[00:18]  * BABA_RECORD i need help with Pidgin Internet Messenger : that dont support webcam service : tell me what msn did i need to use to use webcam services
[00:18] <tommy_> Flannel, you here?
[00:18] <MrKeuner> soundray: can i prevent it from doing so when on battery power?
[00:18] <soundray> MrKeuner: try powertop
[00:19] <yooshi> !frostwire
[00:19] <soundray> !info powertop | MrKeuner
[00:19] <chrome> meh dont know how i'm going to get grub to start on boot. The mac is starting windows when I select the linux boot menu in reFIT
[00:19] <MrKeuner> soundray: installed already, checking it now thanks
[00:21] <yooshi> hmm I need to update my java and this command could not be found: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[00:21] <tommy_> who said keepass is in the Ubuntu repos?
[00:21] <yooshi> need to update it so I can run frostwire
[00:21] <soundray> yooshi: you mangled that command
[00:22] <yooshi> eh I just copy/pasted
[00:22] <tommy_> how can I search the repos for a program?
[00:22] <soundray> yooshi: then someone else mangled that command ;)
[00:22] <soundray> tommy_: apt-cache search program
[00:22] <jrib> tommy_: system -> adiministration -> synaptic
[00:22] <yooshi> :( how is it supposed to go?
[00:22] <tommy_> ok cheers
[00:22] <soundray> yooshi: 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'
[00:23] <soundray> yooshi: then it's interactive
[00:23] <yooshi> how do u mean interactive?
[00:23] <soundray> yooshi: you'll see
[00:23] <yooshi> ty for the command much appreciated
[00:23] <yooshi> cool
[00:23] <yooshi> this is the funnest OS I've worked on.... no drivers to install literally
[00:23] <andycas> Where can i get 2.6.25.x kernel-headers?
[00:24] <MrKeuner> soundray: I clicked A R and W will those be permanent or do I have to do it everytime i need low energy consumption?
[00:24] <amrik> andycas: did you custom build your kernel? did you remember to make-kpkg with kernel_headers?
[00:24] <yooshi> soundray: I ran that command, it said no alternatives for java
[00:24] <amrik> andycas: http://howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu for more info
[00:24] <soundray> tommy_: keepass is for windows, no?
[00:24] <yooshi> soundray:  I'm trying to get frostwire to work, it won't start
[00:24] <andycas> amrik: yes i custom built it, but i dont know about make-kpkg
[00:24] <soundray> yooshi: then you haven't installed any java yet
[00:24] <soundray> !java | yooshi
[00:24] <MagicMoonLight> **Cough Cough**
[00:25] <anolis> how do i make a program use a specific sound device?
[00:25] <hoarycripple> clear
[00:25] <hoarycripple> oops
[00:25] <tommy_> soundray, I found it.  sudo apt-get install keepassx
[00:25] <Hasone2> hey. I've got a weird bug. about a week ago, the sound in vlc, totem, etc. simply stopped working.
[00:25] <yooshi> isn't linux java already sorta?
[00:25] <amrik> andycas: ok take a look at the link I sent you. it's the preferred way of building kernels on debian/ubuntu systems since they create .deb packages that are easy to install and manage. Note that you do not need to unlink /bin/sh from dash to bash; it works fine
[00:25] <darek> Dsiemasz
[00:25] <tommy_> soundray, yes its windows but Ubuntu has it also in the repos
[00:25] <Hasone2> has this happened to anyone else?
[00:25] <tommy_> soundray, and my keepass windows database works with Ubuntu keepassx too :)
[00:25] <tommy_> soundray, you using it too?
[00:25] <soundray> MrKeuner: I don't know, I haven't tried it myself yet
[00:26] <andycas> amrik: thanks, ill look at it
[00:26] <soundray> tommy_: no
[00:26] <tommy_> soundray, ok :P
[00:26] <Hasone2> can anyone help me?
[00:26] <vipester> Well, I can connect to WEP/unsecured, so my WPA problem is definitely a config issue...
[00:26] <soundray> yooshi: absolutely not
[00:26] <amrik> Hasone2: is your sound card still being detected?
[00:26] <amrik> !sound | Hasone2
[00:27] <Hasone2> alright.
[00:27] <soundray> yooshi: try saying that in ##linux, you'll get kicked ;)
[00:27] <Herissy> lol
[00:27] <anolis> how do i make a program use a specific sound device?
[00:28] <andycas> amrik: can i just do make-kpkg kernel_headers now? or do i need to recompile the whole kernel?
[00:28] <Hasone2> I switched to a different sound thing and it just worked.
[00:28] <anonlol> hi
[00:29] <amrik> hmm you can try `
[00:29] <amrik> fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers `
[00:29] <amrik> andycas: take out the kernel_image if you dont want to build an image
[00:29] <yooshi> will java work in 64bit?
[00:29] <MistyMay> Holy hell. 1244 people and like barley anyone is talking. =[
[00:29] <m3th0d> hey people
[00:30] <soundray> yooshi: yes (only the firefox plugin can cause headaches)
[00:30] <MistyMay> Heyya m3th0d
[00:30] <yooshi> MistyMay: plenty have talked earlier
[00:30] <MistyMay> =]
[00:30] <MistyMay> How are you?
[00:30] <m3th0d> i kno da rooms quit
[00:30] <yooshi> soundray: ah ok
[00:30] <MistyMay> haha but stillll yooshi! XD
[00:30] <m3th0d> quiet*
[00:30] <m3th0d> anyhow
[00:30] <soundray> MistyMay: this is not a chat channel -- please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:30] <MistyMay> On my other chat site... there are like 80 people and the room is crazy talkitive.
[00:30] <MistyMay> XD
[00:30] <yooshi> hmm hey nick highlight seems to work...
[00:30] <MistyMay> Ohhh
[00:30] <yooshi> indeed it does
[00:30] <yooshi> cool
[00:31] <m3th0d> i just tried to go in #remote-exploit room but it says im banned how is that ?
[00:31] <yooshi> sorry I'm in love with all this
[00:31] <amrik> m3th0d: oh, the irony
[00:31] <hiptobecubic> i notice that when my cache fills up a lot of my programs, even the stable ones like pidgin start crashing. how can i clear the cache?
[00:31] <MagicMoonLight> Whats Wrong When Ctrl Alt F1 Don't Work Only Flashing Cursor
[00:31] <soundray> !ot | MistyMay
[00:31] <yooshi> soundray: add/remove is saying that sun java is unsupported
[00:32] <m3th0d> i just tried to go in #remote-exploit room but it says im banned how can i be band?
[00:32] <MagicMoonLight> Whats Wrong When Ctrl Alt F1 Don't Work Only Flashing Cursor
[00:32] <legend2440> hiptobecubic: sudo apt-get clean
[00:32] <soundray> yooshi: that's because the version in the repos is still partly proprietary. It will work nevertheless.
[00:32] <spideyman> MagicMoonLight,  then its working
[00:33] <m3th0d> i just tried to go in #remote-exploit room but it says im banned how can i be band? witout even joining ?
[00:33] <MagicMoonLight> Ok Then why cant I see text to log in the terminal session
[00:33] <MagicMoonLight> If you have any ideals what is wrong
[00:33] <hiptobecubic> legend2440, that didn't do what i was expecting. i'm using system monitor and i can still see that the cache is full
[00:34] <yooshi> alright... I trust you :D is there a difference using .jre or .bin?
[00:34] <spideyman> MagicMoonLight, did you try logging in user first then password
[00:34] <alesan> hi
[00:34] <alesan> how do I add a directory containing a number of fonts to a permanent X configuration?
[00:34] <soundray> MagicMoonLight: same result when you hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 and the other F keys?
[00:34] <yooshi> I suppose not
[00:35] <renatoslip> olá!
[00:35] <MagicMoonLight> I did but I still saw nothing just a flashing cursor on a black screen
[00:35] <soundray> yooshi: are you in Add/Remove still?
[00:35] <anolis> how do i make a program use a specific sound device?
[00:35] <MagicMoonLight> When I ctrl alt del it did reboot
[00:35] <yooshi> soundray:  no I went to synaptics to make sure I wasn't getting silly stuff
[00:36] <yooshi> well... I went there cuz I wasn't sure
[00:36] <krono2k5> is there a good howtoo guide to setup samba and ldap
[00:36] <spideyman> MagicMoonLight, thats odd try restarting x then try again
[00:36] <krono2k5> in ubuntu
[00:36] <yooshi> but synaptics seems to be better for it all
[00:36] <krono2k5> im using version 8
[00:36] <soundray> yooshi: get the JRE unless you're planning to develop Java programs yourself
[00:36] <MagicMoonLight> Yes same thing its like its not sending test to the montor when in that low level mode
[00:36] <MagicMoonLight> text
[00:36] <legend2440> hiptobecubic: that command cleared out the   /var/cache/apt/archives. where does system monitor mention cache?
[00:36] <whileimhere> I was wondering about something. When I have GNOME installed I have no issues with connecting to the wireless network in my house. When I went with Kubuntu I had issues. Does GNOME use a different app to connect to wireless networks and would it effect my ability to connect at home?
[00:36] <spideyman> MagicMoonLight, ctrl alt esc
[00:36] <wers> the free space in my root partition is 0B. what's the best thing to do? hehe
[00:36] <yooshi> ah ok well there are two of the same they just either are .bin or .jre so was not sure if there was a difference
[00:36] <MagicMoonLight> not tried that what does that one do
[00:37] <soundray> wers: 'apt-get autoclean' as a first step
[00:37] <spideyman> MagicMoonLight, restarts your desktop environment
[00:37] <wishbone> whats the best CD-bootable program for testing hardrives?
[00:37] <MagicMoonLight> O ok kool I was alweays wondering how to do that
[00:37] <hiptobecubic> legend2440, if you use the desklet in the gnome bar you can display memory usage. tooltip says memort: 16% by programs 72% by cache
[00:37] <soundray> wers:  then run 'du -x / | sort -n' to find out what's taking up space. Removing old kernel packages is a good idea.
[00:37] <wishbone> my laptop shutdown unexpectedly and it wont boot now, i need a CD to repair the drive
[00:37] <yooshi> I have a small app that requires .net framework 1.1 and I installed wine is it possible to run this app and somehow get .net framework to work as well?
[00:38] <soundray> yooshi: is your Java program working now?
[00:38] <spideyman> MagicMoonLight, sry crtl alt backspace
[00:38] <amrik> how can I tell if I have enough power to run an 8800GTS?
[00:38] <Speckal> hi all.  which is the suggested dvd burning app for ubuntu?
[00:38] <MagicMoonLight> I try that but Iit seems I lost my computers ability to show boot up text or low level text ever since I installed startup manager
[00:38] <amrik> do the nvidia binary drivers tell me if it runs out of power? or does an LED come on?
[00:38] <yooshi> soundray:  not yet I'm downloading java
[00:38] <wers> soundray, what does autoclean do? remove my apt archives?
[00:38] <MagicMoonLight> O yes I iknow of ctrl alt backspace well
[00:39] <Rulz> i have a problem
[00:39] <yooshi> holly crap
[00:39] <soundray> wers: only those of outdated versions
[00:39] <Rulz> i need help!
[00:39] <yooshi> to download java I'm doing only 900kb/s
[00:39] <soundray> yooshi: please behave professionally in here
[00:39] <Rulz> i'm using ubuntu os, my problem is online television
[00:39] <MagicMoonLight> when in low level mode like ctrl alt F1 what the command to load up natlis gnome desktop agian
[00:39] <yooshi> for 30MB
[00:39] <Rulz> i don't watchin the media
[00:40] <soundray> !enter | Rulz
[00:40] <vipester> anybody know of any faqs/wikis to configure wpa in hardy heron?
[00:40] <HappyHater> MagicMoonLight, startx?
[00:40] <Rulz> okay
[00:40] <Speckal> which is the suggested dvd burning app for ubuntu?
[00:40] <soundray> MagicMoonLight: 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[00:40] <MagicMoonLight> yes if stuck in Ctrl alt F1 how do get back to desktop
[00:40] <Mo0oSaH> What is the shortcut to get back to X after ctrl+ALT+F2
[00:40] <Zanth_88> speckal: GNOME or KDE?
[00:40] <Speckal> Zanth_88:  gnome
[00:40] <soundray> MagicMoonLight: or Ctrl-Alt-F7 if it's still running
[00:40] <yooshi> soundray: unprofessional? :P jeeze its downloading like a snobby snail
[00:40] <soundray> Mo0oSaH: ^^
[00:40] <Zanth_88> Speckal: you could try GnomeBaker
[00:40] <DIL> !brasero
[00:41]  * BABA_RECORD i need help with Pidgin Internet Messenger : that dont support webcam service : tell me what msn did i need to use to use webcam services
[00:41] <Mo0oSaH> soundray: thanks!
[00:41] <Zanth_88> but there is also Nero Linux.
[00:41] <Rulz> I don't watchin online media systems, mms url's i'm using the vlc player
[00:41] <Speckal> Zanth_88:  ty :)
[00:41] <Zanth_88> you can download it in a deb package from their site but you'l need a serial.
[00:41] <MagicMoonLight> O ok so in in X-terminal full mode login then Ctrl alt F7 will bring me back to desktop mode
[00:41] <Zanth_88> you're welcome. good luck.
[00:41] <soundray> MagicMoonLight: no
[00:42] <soundray> MagicMoonLight: when you hit Ctrl-Alt-F1, you're out of X entirely. It's called the virtual console.
[00:42] <MagicMoonLight> sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart? that make more sense
[00:42] <RSGCooke> If I wanted to put Ubuntu onto a new laptop, are there any considerations I should make?
[00:42] <Rulz> ?
[00:42] <soundray> MagicMoonLight: Ctrl-Alt-F7 will take you back if X is still running on the virtual console number 7
[00:43] <hiptobecubic> RSGCooke, make sure your hardware is compatible
[00:43] <mvinsc> does anyone know why firefox would not have a window?
[00:43] <MagicMoonLight> thats where my machine having the problem in virtual consul I have no text just blinking cursor but it still acts like it works or take commands just the computer is not displaying text
[00:43] <yooshi> 900kb/s!
[00:43] <yooshi> jeeze I'll be here all day
[00:43] <yooshi> can't I get it from an alternate location?
[00:43] <yooshi> hmm you all went quiet (
[00:43] <soundray> RSGCooke: it's pretty much like any other computer nowadays. Do have a look at tuxmobil.org to see if others have reported their experience putting Linux on your specific model or similar ones.
[00:44] <wers> soundray, autocleane did not free some space according to my file manager though i saw that it deleted some files
[00:44] <DIL> RSGCooke: you can dual boot
[00:44] <MagicMoonLight> Its a Very Steange Proplem
[00:44] <RSGCooke> I'd prefer to run any MS OS in a VM
[00:45] <tommy_> whats difference between Beryl and compiz fusion?
[00:45] <samgranieri> even millenium?
[00:45] <soundray> wers: you've run into the reserve. Ubuntu will show 100% as long as your disk usage is above (real) 95%.
[00:45] <spideyman> tommy_,  they are the same now
[00:45] <Peddy> is anyone here using OpenDNS?
[00:45] <yowshi> whats NASM and where can i get it?
[00:45] <MagicMoonLight> thats where my machine having the problem in virtual consul I have no text just blinking cursor but it still acts like it works or take commands just the computer is not displaying text
[00:45] <soundray> wers: have you got lots of old kernels?
[00:45] <DIL> RSGCooke: fyi the vm site has "pre-made" vm worlds
[00:45] <tommy_> spideyman, so I install compiz fusion?
[00:45] <wers> soundray, niice. I have those old kernels. how do I delete 'em? :D
[00:46] <soundray> !info nasm | yowshi
[00:46] <tommy_> spideyman, so beryl is now called compiz-fusion?
[00:46] <soundray> wers: 'sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.24-16' (as an example)
[00:46] <pabl0_> yes tommy_
[00:46] <spideyman> tommy_,  compiz and beryl have joined forces so yes
[00:46] <yowshi> ubottu: i havent upgraded to hardy yet. has most of the kinks been worked out of it?
[00:46] <yowshi> oh
[00:46] <tommy_> how do I install compiz-fusion?
[00:46] <soundray> wers: when you're done, run 'sudo apt-get autoremove' as well
[00:47] <samgranieri> apt-g
[00:47] <MagicMoonLight> Thanks people for the help I can live with my computer not displaying text when in virtual consul I was just wondering if anyone had any ideals
[00:47] <mvinsc> ok... so my web browser is open but with no window...
[00:47] <soundray> tommy_: which version of Ubuntu?
[00:47] <tommy_> soundray, Hardy 8.04
[00:47] <wers> soundray, is there a code that will show me the installed kernels?
[00:47] <soundray> tommy_: System-Preferences-Appearance-Desktop Effects
[00:47] <hiptobecubic> yowshi, i find hardy to be stable and functional, but check the forums for your computer model to see if there are hardware issues
[00:47] <soundray> wers: dpkg -l linux-image-2*
[00:48] <soundray> wers: the -l is for list
[00:48] <tommy_> I got my dad onto Ubuntu lol. it was hard work but his using it finally and loving it.  he just needs to get his printer working and digital camera
[00:48] <inbitado34> i insstalled the intel modem 537 by .deb pakage but now i can not open the synaptic pagage it say to run dpkg --configure -a then it runs but stpos loading the driver and doesnt go on
[00:48] <tommy_> soundray, I dont see it in Appearance-Desktop Effects?
[00:48] <yowshi> GAAAh POS cant install zsnes on an x64
[00:48] <yowshi> 64 bit system
[00:49] <wers> soundray, coooool :)
[00:49] <mvinsc> ok... thanks
[00:49] <c0mp13371331337> Hmmm.... here's an odd one.  When I select Doom 3 from my menu, I have no sound.  When I run it from the terminal (just by typing 'doom3') I have sound.  I checked the properties for my Doom 3 menu entry, all it does is execute 'doom3' with no additional parameters.  What gives?
[00:49] <soundray> tommy_: the last tab, it may be called Visual Effects
[00:49] <tommy_> c0mp13371331337, just keep using terminal :)
[00:50] <yowshi> anyone here have any experience with zsnes on a 64bit system?
[00:50] <c0mp13371331337> tommy_: LOL Thanks. ;-)
[00:50] <Cannibal-X> hello there
[00:50] <tommy_> soundray, i chose "extra" in visual effects, nothing happened
[00:50] <spideyman> yowshi, why whats wrong?
[00:51] <soundray> tommy_: did it stay selected?
[00:51] <tommy_> soundray, yes
[00:51] <Cannibal-X> i have an external hdd-drive and i dunno how to use it at ubuntu
[00:51] <yowshi> i would rather use zsnes instead os snes9x but i cant get it to install on my 64bit system even from source
[00:51] <spideyman> yowshi, paste your output please
[00:51] <soundray> tommy_: do your windows wobble when you move them?
[00:51] <tommy_> soundray, its selected and stayed selected!  now whats supposed to happen? ;ol
[00:52] <tommy_> soundray, ah yeah they do LOL freaky lol
[00:52] <Guest55142> hi can someone please give me a hand. I just installed the new ubuntu 8.04 and I cannot get wireless internet to work. I have it hooked to the router now via ethernet. my laptop has an atheros wi fi card, and the system says that proprietary drivers are installed for it.
[00:52] <tommy_> soundray, what else does it do? :)
[00:52] <soundray> !ccsm | tommy_
[00:52] <yowshi> ^Xyoshi@yoshi-ubuntu:~/Desktop/stuff/zsnes_1_51/src$ make
[00:52] <yowshi> g++  -pipe -I. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include -D__UNIXSDL__  -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT  -D__OPENGL__ -march=pentium-m -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -s -fno-rtti -o tools/fileutil.o -c tools/fileutil.cpp
[00:52] <yowshi> tools/fileutil.cpp:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set
[00:52] <doubled> hi, i was wondering if there is a recommended player for bluray movies ( in .mkv format ) i've tried playing it in MPlayer, some movies play smooth, others dont for some reason
[00:52] <yowshi> tools/fileutil.cpp:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set
[00:52] <yowshi> make: *** [tools/fileutil.o] Error 1
[00:53] <soundray> Rael420: please don't ask a question, then change your nick
[00:53] <Rael420> sorry I didn't want to be Guest =P
[00:54] <yowshi> spideyman: i figure it is a 64bit incompatability since i cant install zsnes from the repo
[00:54] <spideyman> yowshi, you should have used pastebin but yeah your right
[00:54] <soundray> Rael420: look at the output of 'dmesg' in terminal. Is there any error relating to the atheros card?
[00:54] <doubled> hi, i was wondering if there is a recommended player for bluray movies ( in .mkv format ) i've tried playing it in MPlayer, some movies play smooth, others dont for some reason
[00:54] <soundray> !repeat | doubled
[00:55] <yowshi> grrr double wammied with incompatability problems today
[00:55] <prototype> Guys, is there anyway to retract from the current kernel and install <IP_ADDRESS> instead?  I really need this kernel version.
[00:55] <yowshi> i hate days like this
[00:55] <jmazaredo> can anyone tell me how to check email tls other that telneting port 25
[00:55] <prototype> In Hardy Hereon
[00:55] <Rael420> wow I'm not sure what i'm looking for in there
[00:55] <Rael420> should I use pastebin or something
[00:56] <spideyman> yowshi, 3 times is a charm!
[00:56] <amt2> i want to learn perl or python, which one do people like more and why ?
[00:56] <jrib> amt2: we like to keep this channel dedicated to ubuntu support only since it is so busy.  Mind moving your discussion over to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[00:56] <soundray> prototype: do a 'grep 2.6.24-17 /boot/grub/menu.lst' to see if it's still accessible from your boot menu
[00:56] <soundray> Rael420: paste.ubuntu.com
[00:57] <yowshi> spideyman: :(
[00:57] <Rael420> ok
[00:57] <yowshi> i cant get sound working in the snes9express from the repo
[00:57] <yowshi> nor can i get full screen
[00:57] <spideyman> yowshi, y not just use the other one
[00:57] <yowshi> so hows that for three times
[00:57] <prototype> soundray: you mean from grub?
[00:57] <pur-angst> ??
[00:57] <soundray> prototype: yes
[00:57] <yowshi> spideyman: see above posts
[00:58] <yowshi> spideyman: also i cant configure the control pads
[00:58] <spideyman> yowshi, yeah you read my mind
[00:58] <Rael420> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21697/
[00:58] <prototype> I installed the latest Hardy, which comes with <IP_ADDRESS>, and automatically updates to <IP_ADDRESS>, so I doubt that the grub menu has it..., any other suggestions before I check guys?
[00:58] <spideyman> yowshi, i have found persistance pays off
[00:59] <Dug_Fin> hi, is there anyone out there who could give me some help with an upgrade problem i'm having?
[00:59] <soundray> Rael420: look at line 325
[00:59] <Peddy> can someone please help me with setting wireless speed? Thanks
[00:59] <yowshi> spideyman: thanks but you realize thats of no real help when there is no help page for the thing. the configs are probably all done in a text based config file and i hate sifting through those things
[00:59] <Rael420> unable to attach
[00:59] <jrib> Dug_Fin: best to just ask the channel your question
[01:00] <Rael420> uh oh
[01:00] <soundray> prototype: you can get linux-image-2.6.24-17-generic from packages.ubuntu.com and install it with 'sudo dpkg -i linux-image...'
[01:00] <soundray> prototype: you may need other packages as well
[01:00] <spideyman> yowshi, well you could be be using winblows whats worse?
[01:00] <Rael420> what should I do
[01:01] <soundray> Rael420: it can be fixed probably
[01:01] <soundray> Rael420: give me a minute
[01:01] <yowshi> spideyman: thats true but one of my incompatabiltiy problrems was cause someone didnt write a linux version for something only winblows and mac
[01:01] <spideyman> yowshi, I have seen many problems with the 64 bit install
[01:01] <WRXChad1> /MSG NickServ VERIFY REGISTER WRXChad1 mctqmtzrgxhs
[01:01] <Rael420> alrighty
[01:01] <yowshi> spideyman: i havent seen many prioblems with the install itself. just a lack of willingness of programmers to programme for jt
[01:02] <Dug_Fin> upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and now all i get is a blue screen and a cursor, on bars or icons or menues
[01:02] <spideyman> yowshi, linux version of what/
[01:02]  * BABA_RECORD i need help with Pidgin Internet Messenger : that dont support webcam service : tell me what msn did i need to use to use webcam services
[01:02] <yowshi> spideyman: 64bit has been out for years yet there is very little in the way of support for it even big name people like adobe arent touching it
[01:02] <BABA_RECORD> lol i have 3 days at her for a litle problem
[01:02] <yowshi> spideyman: a player for some movies i wanted to download off the oprah site. for my mom
[01:02] <prototype> thanks soundray, I'll check it out.
[01:02] <soundray> Rael420: you can use the same fix that applies to Eee PCs. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes  -- scroll down to Wireless - Workaround: Madwifi
[01:02] <spideyman> yowshi, what format are they in?
[01:03] <yooshi> soundray: nope java didn't fix my problem
[01:03] <yowshi> spideyman: it appears to be in mkv but i cant reach the actual content to use download helper on them without the firefox player addon
[01:03] <soundray> yooshi: what program are you trying to run?
[01:04] <yowshi> spideyman: the bloody site doesnt give the name of the addon though
[01:04] <Cyde> PulseAudio doesn't start automatically when I start KDE, so I have to run it in a console.  How do I have it start automatically?
[01:04] <yooshi> soundray: frostwire
[01:04] <soundray> !frostwire | yooshi
[01:04] <yooshi> it won't start, and I checked the info and it said that I might need an alternate java runtime
[01:04] <spideyman> yowshi, holy crap youve had a bad day!
[01:04] <Rael420> thank you
[01:05] <yooshi> soundray:  thats why i checked it out and went ahead and tried this
[01:05] <Rael420> soundray
[01:05] <yowshi> spideyman: i tried every trick i could think of but it looks like i will have to use vmware on this one
[01:05]  * yooshi doesn't understand why frostwire won't work
[01:05] <spideyman> yowshi, BOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
[01:05] <yooshi> guess its time to try it in terminal
[01:05] <spideyman> yowshi, whats the site?
[01:06] <yowshi> spideyman: yes i dont wanna either but this favor means alot to my ma and i wanna help her. her winblows comp is to unstable to do it
[01:06] <yowshi> spideyman:  http://www.oprah.com/obc_classic/webcast/archive/archive_watchnow.jsp
[01:06] <spideyman> yowshi, typical
[01:06] <eraldo> greetings
[01:07] <yooshi> soundray:  I ran frostwire via terminal and I get errors but I don't understand them
[01:07] <eraldo> how can I enable ASCII codes (with `ALT + <numbers>`)
[01:07] <soundray> yooshi: put them on paste.ubuntu.com and let me have the URL
[01:07] <yowshi> yooshi post them to pastebin and then give the people here the link
[01:07] <soundray> eraldo: Shift-Ctrl-u-code
[01:08] <Peddy> can someone please help me? My wireless speed on my desktop with bcm34xx is really slow, and in iwconfig, it keeps reverting to 2MBPS after I reboot or sleep the computer. Can someone please help me make the wireless speed setting stick? Thanks
[01:08] <yowshi> i also meshed together the two halves of this universes consciousness today
[01:08] <yowshi> dont know how long it will work but i think i can count on thier support
[01:08] <yooshi> yep working on a pastebin :)
[01:08] <yowshi> ooops that gopes into the rpg window
[01:09] <spideyman> yowshi, its loading for me on 32bit 8.04
[01:09] <yooshi> http://www.pastebin.ca/1052221
[01:09] <yowshi> what addon it is using?
[01:10] <soundray> yooshi: the site is not responding here. Try http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:10] <yooshi> brb, afk
[01:10] <eraldo> soundray: thank you,... hm, I have the impression that different numbers-codes are used, is that possible ?
[01:10] <yowshi> spideyman: when i enable the scripts for both sites i get a player install needed window
[01:10] <soundray> eraldo: yes -- unicode
[01:11] <tommy_> when will 2.4.1 Openoffice be relased in the repos?
[01:11] <Shadow_Ice> anyone tell me what my problem is. i start to install Ubuntu and after a while it tells me its creating image and then everytime it gets close to 100% done it says "cant access cd please make sure nothing else is using the current drive" and then starts over.
[01:11] <spideyman> yowshi, still loading i think its fubared
[01:11] <yowshi> yeah i know :(
[01:11] <eraldo> soundray: but there are no ASCII codes in ubuntu ?
[01:11] <yowshi> if you enable both sites scripts it tells you you need a special player addon for firefox
[01:12] <eraldo> soundray: the standard alt combinations i mean, where 8888 is (c) for example
[01:12] <spideyman> yowshi, im gonna play with it too!
[01:12] <soundray> eraldo: ASCII is actually a subset of unicode. Perhaps it's the fact that you have to enter hex codes that's confusing you?
[01:13] <eraldo> soundray: I guess so,... I'll read some text on unicode, hope that will help :) thanks
[01:14] <soundray> eraldo: also have a look at the very useful charmap application
[01:15] <soundray> !info gucharmap | eraldo
[01:15] <Mo> i keep getting a white screen when i logon
[01:15] <eraldo> soundray: I used that app in the meantime... want something quicker though, but thanks again, for the hint
[01:15] <Mo> any help?
[01:16] <yooshi> one sec
[01:16] <yowshi> spideyman: only it doesnt fragging tell you this addons name
[01:16] <yowshi> spideyman: i may be able to do something else to this like media player connectivity
[01:16] <yooshi> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21699/
[01:16] <Cannibal-X> i have an external hdd-drive and i dunno how to use it at ubuntu, could anyone help?
[01:17] <spideyman> yowshi, you got me interested now!
[01:17] <Mo> i keep getting a white screen when i logon, can anyone tell me why?
[01:17] <yowshi> spideyman: LOL a race to find which media downloader works first??
[01:18] <spideyman> yowshi, k go!
[01:18] <`Kryten`> hey..... can someone help me with setting up 32 bit drive access and dma for my hardy box?
[01:18] <yowshi> LOL
[01:18] <soundray> yooshi: it's telling you
[01:18] <yooshi> what do you all recommend for downloading torrents on ubuntu?
[01:18] <yooshi> it is? in another file?
[01:18] <hiptobecubic> I'm trying to install the bot-sentry plugin and after i compile and run make install i can't find it in the list of plugins
[01:18] <eraldo> soundray: I will lookup how to enter them in unicode, I only need 4 symbols by hard... for the rest I will use the app, respect! for providing such good help and info
[01:19] <yooshi> soundray:  you mean this: /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrostwire.sh: line 125:  7477 Aborted
[01:19] <soundray> yooshi: look at line 15 and 16 of your post
[01:19] <soundray> eraldo: I have one more suggestion
[01:19] <psyco> hey, I have cairo-dock. I added system monitor, it glitched and now I can't delete it, it is also inviaible and I can't modify it at all. Anyone know how to fix this???
[01:19] <onats> can i do an upgrade to hardy heron using a CD? seems to be faster
[01:19] <onats> ?
[01:20] <soundray> eraldo: the Character Palette applet. You can configure it to show your most frequently used special characters, ready to pick.
[01:20] <spideyman> yowshi, i got one to play with ff3 in the tuesday recap
[01:20] <unop> onats, you'll need the alternative CD to do that
[01:20] <yooshi> soundray:  says works best with 1.4+ how does that make 1.6 not usable? hence 1.4+
[01:20] <onats> unop, ok, will download it instaed
[01:20] <pipeee> s
[01:21] <bogey-> !alternative
[01:22] <yowshi> spideyman: i got it to play
[01:22] <soundray> yooshi: it's obviously not usable, and this is the only thing you have to go on. Try installing sun-java5-jre (and configure it via update-alternatives --config java)
[01:22] <yowshi> spideyman: i used unplug to get the raw links
[01:22] <Shadow_Ice> how come when i try to istall it says creating Image and gets to 100% and tells me that it cant access the cd?
[01:22] <unop> onats, it might actually be quicker to use apt to download only the updates you need rather than the entire alternate CD image containing a lot more that isn't used in the upgrade process
[01:22] <spideyman> yowshi, see persistance
[01:23] <yooshi> soundray:  so I just remove 1.6 then install 1.5?
[01:23] <onats> unop, am doing it on apt now, but the download speed is not maximum of my bandwidth capacity.. its only half..
[01:23] <yowshi> spideyman: but download helper isnt grabbing the file
[01:23] <soundray> yooshi: no, you don't have to remove anything (hence update-alternatives)
[01:23] <yooshi> ok
[01:24] <yowshi> spideyman: i need a better vid grabber download helper is a crap shot. you know of one?
[01:24] <yooshi> so I install 1.5 as I would in synaptics and then run the update command?
[01:24] <soundray> yooshi: yes
[01:24] <spideyman> yowshi, i use kde desktop!
[01:24] <unop> onats, the speed you download at from someone else can be no more than their maximum upload speed -- if you aren't experiencing good speeds with apt, try using another mirror
[01:24] <yowshi> spideyman: how does that grab videos being played on firefox?
[01:24] <onats> ok.. let me try again
[01:25] <KyleK> whats GPT partition type?
[01:25] <MrRich> HI everyone :)
[01:25] <KyleK> does linux support it?
[01:25] <spideyman> yowshi, no meaning your more than likely in gnome so it would be different
[01:25] <MrRich> is there a chat room for beginners?
[01:25] <unop> MrRich, this is it. ask a question to the channel
[01:25] <gway9000> MrRich: this is it
[01:25] <KyleK> MrRich: half the questions here are cupholder related yes
[01:25] <spideyman> yowshi, what r u using now?
[01:25] <MrRich> well cool
[01:25] <Solaris444> hi guys, anybody know anything about resetting root passwords?
[01:26] <yowshi> spideyman: the download helper addon for firefox. it sucks i need something better to grab videos off firefox as they are playing
[01:26] <KyleK> Solaris444: sudo -i and then passwd
[01:26] <KyleK> orrr
[01:26] <yowshi> spideyman: something more reliable
[01:26] <KyleK> reboot and edit the grub line, add init=/bin/bash to the end
[01:26] <soundray> Solaris444: just boot in recovery mode, run 'passwd -l' and administer your system through sudo
[01:26] <Cyde> Can I actually download package source code using deb-src repositories?
[01:26] <Solaris444> can't take the system offline KyleK
[01:26] <MrRich> I feel kinda stupid here but Ive been having so many problems with XP I thought I would try a new OS..and thought about Ubuntu...this is starting to seem out of my league though ..should I remove XP and just install U?
[01:27] <unop> Cyde, yes, that is their purpose
[01:27] <KyleK> Solaris444: and you cant sudo to root?
[01:27] <soundray> Cyde: yes
[01:27] <yooshi> grrr why does my wireless keep disconnecting me, this just started 10 minutes ago
[01:27] <Solaris444> KyleK: no
[01:27] <Dug_Fin> Ok, i read that running the update from the command line might fix things, but I don't know how to go about that and I tried the alternate installer but never found a command to do the update
[01:27] <Cyde> Okay, so how do I do it?
[01:27] <un_dave> does anyone know how i can display the results of arbitrary terminal commands in the gnome panel, or somewhere in the gui in gnome? I have a raid 5 system it would be nice to see the status of.
[01:27] <spideyman> yowshi, http://webscripts.softpedia.com/script/Multimedia/Video/Video-grabber-script-45002.html
[01:27] <Shadow_Ice> how come when i try to istall it says creating Image and gets to 100% and tells me that it cant access the cd?
[01:27] <Dug_Fin> so I am stuck witha blue screen and a cursor
[01:27] <unop> KyleK, GPT is a partioning system that uses GUIDs to identify partitions, upto 128 seperate partitions are supported - and linux can deal with GPT
[01:28] <KyleK> Solaris444: you need root access to change the root password
[01:28] <deejaypip> MrRich: you should try dualbooting first and let me pull up an article that compares linux and windows
[01:28] <KyleK> cool
[01:28] <KyleK> I'll try it
[01:28] <soundray> Shadow_Ice: if you don't get an answer, don't just repeat -- rephrase
[01:28] <MrRich> ok
[01:28] <deejaypip> MrRich: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[01:28] <MrRich> thanks deejaypip
[01:28] <Herissy> automatic transmissions are for lazy people who can't drive.
[01:28] <gway9000> Solaris444: /etc/shadow
[01:28] <deejaypip> MrRich: I converted from XP to Ubuntu a month or so ago. what kind of problems are you having?
[01:29] <soundray> !dualboot | MrRich
[01:29] <Mo0oSaH> Herissy: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:29] <Shadow_Ice> there is no other way to say it
[01:29] <yowshi> spideyman: ok that will help in the future but as this is new i doubt that this particular video set can be gotten using this
[01:29] <MrRich> I have a corrupt DLL file for one thing..I can't scan or defrag, if I do I get a blue screen of death...
[01:29] <Herissy> just spouting off.
[01:29] <Herissy> sorry.
[01:29] <soundray> Shadow_Ice: if you can't be bothered to elaborate, I can't be bothered to help
[01:30] <yooshi> yowshi:  so you use kde desktop? and your point is?
[01:30] <chowder> MrRich: step 1 get rid of windows
[01:30] <yowshi> yooshi: no i use gnome
[01:30] <KyleK> damn ntfs or bust in vista
[01:30] <yooshi> omfg
[01:30] <MrRich> I thought about that chowder
[01:30] <soundray> !language
[01:30] <Solaris444> gway9000: ok and what should i do with /etc/shadow
[01:30] <Herissy> wonder how many people in here use kde over gnome.
[01:30] <Shadow_Ice> ok then would it be easier to remove windows and install ubuntu on a clean drive?
[01:31] <yooshi> why the heck is my wifi dropping every few seconds all of the sudden?
[01:31] <yooshi> no wonder everything is slow
[01:31] <MrRich> thaqts what I would like to know Shadow_Ice
[01:31] <soundray> Shadow_Ice: no
[01:31] <chowder> MrRich: go to distrowatch.com and look the many distros there. Ubuntu, imo, is the most user friendly
[01:31] <Herissy> shadow dual boot.
[01:31] <kappaccino> .
[01:32] <soundray> MrRich: it's straightforward to install a dual-boot  system using the Ubuntu Desktop CD
[01:32] <un_dave> does anyone know how i can display the results of arbitrary terminal commands in the gnome panel, or somewhere in gnome?
[01:32] <mynetdude> could I get a little hand here? my ubuntu laptop is dropping connection every few secs... and I need to know why
[01:32] <Shadow_Ice> ive been trying to do that. right now its downloading instal files and i have about 5 hours left b4 its done
[01:32] <MrRich> does Ubuntu have thier own DLLs?
[01:32] <Flannel> MrRich: No.  Linux doesn't use DLLs
[01:32] <gway9000> Solaris444: there is a alphanumeric value that reps the password if you edit it and delete only the alphanumeric it will delete the pw -
[01:32] <coil> lib
[01:32] <Herissy> ubuntu doesn't use DLL's
[01:32] <MrRich> took me 30 mins to download..I'm on dsl here
[01:32] <soundray> MrRich: yes. They are called shared libraries
[01:33] <Herissy> ubuntu uses libs
[01:33] <Solaris444> that sounds good gway9000
[01:33] <coil> wine uses dlls
[01:33] <Shadow_Ice> im on dsl too
[01:33] <chowder> MrRich: forget everything about windows and come to our side. :D
[01:33] <unop> un_dave, use zenity
[01:33] <Herissy> wine has too.. its a windows emulator.
[01:33] <wers> soundray, what do I run again after purging the old kernels?
[01:33] <Solaris444> gway9000: is that value a hash that could be used to recover the password?
[01:33] <MrRich> I want to chowder lol
[01:33] <soundray> wers: apt-get autoremove
[01:33] <Flannel> Solaris444: `sudo passwd -l root` will re-lock the root passowrd
[01:33] <gway9000> Solaris444: you should be able to add new  pw afterwards
[01:34] <MrRich> will MIRC work in Ubuntu?
[01:34] <Ahadiel> MrRich, Yes, if run under wine.
[01:34] <Herissy> for IRC use xchat.
[01:34] <mynetdude> has anyone had a wifi issue with ubuntu dropping connection every few seconds?
[01:34] <yowshi> next up anyone know how to configure snes9express?
[01:34] <Flannel> MrRich: It may be possible with wine, but there are native programs you can use instead
[01:34] <Herissy> in ubuntu
[01:34] <gway9000> Solaris444: not sure if ophcrack or similar may decipher
[01:34] <unop> Solaris444, the hash is a one-way hash, theoretically you cannot recover the original plain text password from it except via brute-force guessing
[01:34] <soundray> MrRich: not natively, no. You can install an abstraction layer for Windows software called wine
[01:34] <wers> soundray, it didnt remove anything. oh well. i guess, it's finee
[01:34] <Solaris444> right unop
[01:34] <mynetdude> MrRich use pidgin!
[01:35] <soundray> wers: it doesn't on every system
[01:35] <chowder> MrRich: try a dual boot with Ubuntu. If you like Linux then destroy windows
[01:35] <Flannel> Solaris444: don't edit the shadow file, just `sudo passwd -l root`
[01:35] <Herissy> why not just use the Live CD.
[01:35] <Herissy> then if you like it type install.
[01:35] <Herissy> simple as that.
[01:35] <wers> soundray, thanks
[01:35] <mynetdude> Flannel well I'm liking ubuntu and destroyed my windows... but now I'm starting to not like it with the fact its disconnecting me every few seoncs
[01:35] <MrRich> I have the live CD..
[01:35] <soundray> MrRich: I can tell you don't know yet how much of a different world Ubuntu is
[01:35] <Solaris444> Flannel: can't sudo without root's password.
[01:35] <gway9000> Solaris444: if you can do what Flannel suggested then it would be best
[01:35] <MrRich> that obvious huh soundray lol
[01:36] <Shadow_Ice> lol
[01:36] <Ahadiel> Solaris444, sudo uses the user's password.
[01:36] <doubled> :)
[01:36] <Flannel> Solaris444: yes you can.  sudo uses your user password, unless you've changed the defaults
[01:36] <Solaris444> Ahadiel: It asks me root's password.  yes i changed the defaults.
[01:36] <MrRich> I'm thinking I'll get there and stare at a blank screen
[01:36] <Flannel> Solaris444: and if you can't sudo, then theres no way you'll be able to edit /etc/shadow anyway
[01:36] <Herissy> MrRich : we all had to start somewhere
[01:36] <MrRich> all of these new terms
[01:36] <mynetdude> so nobody can help with a wifi connection issue?
[01:36] <Solaris444> damn i really didn't want to take the system offline.  looks like I'll have to.
[01:37] <Flannel> Solaris444: Then you're stuck.  You'll need to reboot.  Lock the root password, set sudo back up to use users passwords.
[01:37] <doubled> mynetdude: i dont know that much about that yet :(
[01:37] <Shadow_Ice> anyone know where i can find drivers for netgear wirless adapter for ubuntu
[01:37] <yowshi> for the love of all things cute and puppylike. no matter what ekmbedded videodownloader i throw at this thing it only getas a file 148kb big
[01:37] <Solaris444> thanks all.
[01:37] <gway9000> Solaris444: you use a disk like knoppix and chroot to the drive then edit
[01:37] <Solaris444> I'll see how i go.
[01:37] <doubled> is your wireless card detected though mynetdude ?
[01:37] <Flannel> Solaris444: And actually, you'll need a liveCD to do it.  Since you can't get into the recovery console
[01:37] <soundray> !wireless | Shadow_Ice
[01:37] <FunkyLarge> Is there any fix for flash crashing firefox all the time?
[01:37] <Shadow_Ice> thank you
[01:37] <Ahadiel> FunkyLarge, Flash is just buggy, that's all =/
[01:37] <MrRich> live CD you can download and make form the ISP
[01:37] <MrRich> er ISO
[01:38] <mynetdude> doubled how do I know? it was working fine last night and all this morning until about 15-20 mintues ago
[01:38] <yowshi> i have even tried using firefox itself on the link with save as
[01:38] <soundray> FunkyLarge: make sure you haven't got conflicting plugins (load about:plugins as the URL)
[01:38] <doubled> ah i see. and when you have a cable connected to that same router it works fine ?
[01:38] <Flannel> Solaris444: There's a reason Ubuntu does things the way it does, and you probably don't want to deviate from those anyway.  Why did you feel compelled to use the root password for sudo?
[01:38] <doubled> you can check your network interfaces by typing ifconfig in a terminal screen
[01:39] <doubled> if it doesnt show up in there its either not installed or not activated
[01:39] <soundray> !who | doubled
[01:39] <doubled> soundray: sorry
[01:39] <mynetdude> doubled well its activated I know that
[01:39] <soundray> doubled: :)
[01:39] <Herissy> lol I was born confused.
[01:39] <mynetdude> doubled is there any way to check the network interfaces via the GUI rather than terminal?
[01:40] <Shadow_Ice> well that sucks mine isnt in there.
[01:40] <doubled> mynetdude: yes. go to system, then system administration and then network
[01:40] <soundray> Shadow_Ice: how is yours connected -- USB?
[01:40] <Shadow_Ice> yea
[01:41] <soundray> Shadow_Ice: any output when you run 'lsusb | grep Netgear' in terminal?
[01:41] <doubled> mynetdude: it should show under the tab "connections"
[01:41] <yurimxpxman> are 6g ipods supported in 8.04 out of the box, or do I have to compile libgpod?
[01:41] <doubled> yurimxpxman: you can use the program "rockbox" or "amarok" both will detect your ipod fine
[01:41] <yooshi> update-alternatives: unable to make /etc/alternatives/java.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java: Permission denied <----- how do I get permission?
[01:41] <Shadow_Ice> i wouldnt know. im still waiting for the install files to finish downloading. andthen it all depends on if it wants to install
[01:41] <Flannel> yooshi: sudo
[01:42] <yooshi> oh I have to do sudo at the front... yeah
[01:42] <suweid> Why doesn't ifdown eth0 work as I expect it to? Says "no interface eth0"... WHAT. OUTRAGE.
[01:42] <soundray> doubled: are you mistaking rhythmbox and rockbox?
[01:42] <yurimxpxman> doubled: are you sure? The last version didn't support the 6g out of the box.. just 5 and below
[01:42] <kitche> suweid: do you have a eth0
[01:42] <yurimxpxman> soundray: lol.. I'd say yes
[01:43] <suweid> kitche yeah, the nm-applet says I have eth0
[01:43] <doubled> soundray: hmm you might be right. someone asked same question yesterday, and i wrote it down because i got an ipod as well :)
[01:43] <soundray> Shadow_Ice: then don't worry about it now -- it may well work straight away
[01:43] <banet416> hello i have hardy heron 8.04 cd i have burnt, i am trying to access the desktop with the livecd option, the problem is i have no monitor, instead i have a geforce fx5500 with svideo out. this svideo out plug is connected to a svideo-to-composite video. I thought that ubunntu would recognize this and show me a desktop on my tv, but nope... so i have no way of knowing what to do
[01:44] <suweid> kitche, nm-applet says I do; but it's not in that interface file... mhmhm
[01:44] <Petrucci> whats the best program to use with a PC FAX?
[01:44] <soundray> doubled: rockbox is an open-source replacement firmware for ipods and some other music players
[01:44] <kitche> suweid: what does ifconfig show for devices?
[01:44] <suweid> eth0, lo
[01:44] <Shadow_Ice> i hope so. ive been wanting to use Ubuntu now since i was using Mint i just didnt have enough ram for ubuntu
[01:44] <soundray> Petrucci: what's PC FAX -- a modem?
[01:44] <doubled> soundray: ah ok thanks, i will write down rhytmbox then. i got an ipod  touch myself. i wanna try and connect it sometime tommorow
[01:44] <suweid> ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[01:45] <suweid> if I do "sudo ifdown eth0"
[01:45] <Petrucci> yes
[01:45] <kitche> suweid: hmm seems like it's not configured which seems strange since your on right now
[01:45] <soundray> doubled: there's also a factoid:
[01:45] <Petrucci> i want to use a software program to send and ecieve faxes on my pc
[01:45] <soundray> !ipod | doubled, yurimxpxman
[01:45] <suweid> kitche, yeah. That's what I'm thinking to.
[01:45] <suweid> and apparenty i'd much rather be off.
[01:45] <suweid> :)
[01:45] <LoRez> why is hardy not detecting that my wifi network is wpa2 based and instead asking for LEAP auth?
[01:46] <soundray> Petrucci: try hylafax
[01:46] <yooshi> soundray:  i still can't get frostwire to run on java5
[01:46] <Flannel> Petrucci: There's a few of them, you'd do best searching in synaptic, reading the descriptions, and trying some out
[01:46] <soundray> !info hylafax-client
[01:46] <soundray> yooshi: same error?
[01:46] <yooshi> does anyone here have frostwire working successfully under ubuntu 8?
[01:46] <banet416> hello i have hardy heron 8.04 cd i have burnt, i am trying to access the desktop with the livecd option, the problem is i have no monitor, instead i have a geforce fx5500 with svideo out. this svideo out plug is connected to a svideo-to-composite video. I thought that ubunntu would recognize this and show me a desktop on my tv, but nope... so i have no way of knowing what to do
[01:46] <yooshi> oh... nah forgot to run it through terminal
[01:46] <soundray> yooshi: don't turn this into a survey please
[01:47] <yooshi> no not the same error... much bigger
[01:48] <M4rotku> hello, how can I tell if my video card is working?
[01:48] <Petrucci>  http://videos.sxx.com/fame_teasers/1/12/1241/5a53984668/1241_04/01/1241_04_15sec_03.wmv
[01:48] <soundray> M4rotku: your monitor displays letters and colors
[01:48]  * DIL wonders if he can see the screen
[01:48] <yooshi> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21704/
[01:48] <daniel_mc> gah!  i need help with dual monitors
[01:49] <Flannel> !ops | Petrucci
[01:49] <jmbiggs> anyone want some hardware to run mythbuntu on? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250261593707
[01:49] <daniel_mc> any love here?
[01:49] <soundray> !ops | Petrucci porn-spamming
[01:49] <yooshi> daniel_mc: I heard about xrandr don't know much about it though
[01:49] <daniel_mc> yooshi - need help with a vtbook
[01:49] <b0xxy> !ask
[01:49] <jmbiggs> xandros?
[01:49] <daniel_mc> http://www.villagetronic.com/ftp/vtbook/Linux/LinuxReadMe.html
[01:50] <doubled> !rockbox
[01:50] <jrib> soundray: thanks
[01:50] <jrib> Flannel: you too :)
[01:50] <SynrG> recommendation for installing on an old IBM thinkpad with only 256M?
[01:50] <SynrG> the live CD thrashes horribly ... :P
[01:50] <Flannel> SynrG: Try xubuntu, if thats not working, use the alternate CD to install a CLI only system, then add a lightweight WM (fluxbox, etc).
[01:50] <solj> anyone know the _right_ way to disable gvfs on hardy
[01:50] <daniel_mc> I need help installing a VTBook on Ubuntu 8.04 (hardy heron) running 2.6.24-18-generic.  hardware: X61 lenovo thinkpad
[01:51] <Flannel> SynrG: so, try xubuntu from the alternate CD.  Or if you want to instlal without a live environment, Hardy (and gutsy) have an option to boot just to an installer from the Desktop CD
[01:51] <SynrG> where is said alternate?
[01:51] <yowshi> anyone know of an utralreliable video downloader for firefox?
[01:51] <Flannel> SynrG: Same places as he regular Desktop ISO.
[01:51] <yowshi> something better then download helper
[01:51] <CaptainMorgan> what's an equivalent command to Unix's logins ? I would like to see which users on the system do not currently have passwords so I can force them to add a password at their next login....
[01:51] <CaptainMorgan> Unix would be: logins -p
[01:52] <SynrG> Flannel: hm.  how did i miss it? it seemed to only offer two: desktop and server
[01:52] <Flannel> SynrG: Where are you looking?
[01:52] <SynrG> Flannel: server is the 'alternate'?
[01:52] <yooshi> is there a frostwire alternative that DOES work?
[01:52] <SynrG> "get ubuntu" from the home page
[01:52] <Flannel> SynrG: No, server is server.
[01:52] <SynrG> LTS
[01:52] <Flannel> SynrG: check the "alternate desktop CD" box at the bottom
[01:53] <yowshi> SynrG: look around the bottom there should be an alternate cd dropdown list if i recall right
[01:53] <SynrG> Flannel: that's how i missed it.  i was looking for a link or button :P
[01:53] <Flannel> SynrG: that'll install Ubuntu (or no GUI)
[01:53] <SynrG> my eyes skipped right over the checbkox :P
[01:53] <banet416> hello i have hardy heron 8.04 cd i have burnt, i am trying to access the desktop with the livecd option, the problem is i have no monitor, instead i have a geforce fx5500 with svideo out. this svideo out plug is connected to a svideo-to-composite video. I thought that ubunntu would recognize this and show me a desktop on my tv, but nope... so i have no way of knowing what to do
[01:53] <akahige> I have a problem with... don't know if it's X or the window manager (Gnome), where I lose all of my keybindings and the ability to modify with SHIFT or CTRL... the fix seems to be to log out of the desktop.  Is there any way I can do this and leave apps running without having to close everything...?
[01:54] <yooshi> hey soundray any ideas about my java error?
[01:54] <yowshi> banet416: well that completly original
[01:54] <soundray> yooshi: have you pastebinned  it?
[01:55] <banet416> yowshi what do you suggest id o
[01:55] <yooshi> yeah you must've missed the link in all the spamming
[01:55] <yooshi> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21704/
[01:55] <yowshi> banet416: no idea tyhat one is over my head
[01:55] <SynrG> Flannel: tnx.  downloading
[01:55] <banet416> i can always go to walmart and pick up a monitor and return it the next day, but i'd rather not do that
[01:56] <soundray> yooshi: no idea, sorry
[01:56] <Rael420> is there anywhere else I can get madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>-r3698-20080604.tar.gz , the server at madwifi must be down
[01:56] <mynetdude> soundray: :(
[01:57] <Flannel> banet416: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-b751f1c9b3b4e0c27d6bc8828a831de92eb57a70 might be of some help
[01:57] <CaptainMorgan> what's an equivalent command to Unix's logins ? I would like to see which users on the system do not currently have passwords so I can force them to add a password at their next login....
[01:57] <CaptainMorgan> Unix would be: logins -p
[01:58] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: passwd -S can tell you if they have no passwd
[01:58] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: (and then passwd -e would be used to make them change it)
[01:59] <soundray> Rael420: I'll put it on http://www.soundray.org/madwifi.tar.gz -- give me six minutes to get it off my Eee PC
[01:59] <chuckf> banet416, do you see the bios post when you boot via your TV?
[01:59] <banet415> what was the url again? (this is the man talkinga bouit trying to do livecd with no monitor)
[01:59] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, awesome, thanks!
[01:59] <Flannel> banet416: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-b751f1c9b3b4e0c27d6bc8828a831de92eb57a70 might be of some help
[02:00] <Rael420> thanks
[02:00] <banet415> thanks flannel
[02:00] <banet415> i will dl and take a look
[02:00] <Rael420> heh
[02:00] <banet415> chuckf i do not see the bios post
[02:00] <Flannel> banet415: oh!  You can set up ssh blind, and then ssh in, install nvidia drivers, etc.
[02:00] <banet415> the tv shows a blue screen
[02:00] <Rael420> that sounds familiar
[02:00] <Rael420> "dl and take a look"
[02:00] <wers> how do I mount my partitions on the live cd/
[02:01] <banet415> rael420 you watch too much porn then
[02:01] <Rael420> LMAO
[02:01] <banet415> :)
[02:01] <chuckf> banet415, its not the ubuntu disk then. There is a bios setting that needs to be changed to use your video card before the onboard video
[02:01] <BlueLaguna> My Ubuntu installation is erroring when trying to install grub.  I had to do modprobe ide_generic to even start the installation.  However, although the /home disk is ide, the primary disk is SATA.
[02:02] <BlueLaguna> Any ideas for fixing my grub problem?
[02:02] <BlueLaguna> It doesn't go past that
[02:02] <banet415> chuckf i remember that when i had debian, i was able to see the bios get posted to the TV ... now i have a different tv which has no svideo, so i am using a svideo-to-composite cable to plug into it... do you think this is another problem?
[02:02] <chuckf> banet415, I jsut had that issue with a mythbox I just built
[02:03] <chuckf> banet415, it could be as I went through two different cables before one worked
[02:03] <chuckf> (well one cable and one adaptor
[02:03] <chuckf> and not to be a smartass, but you are sure you're on the right video input right?
[02:03] <chuckf> for the TV
[02:03] <banet415> chuckf this was my old set up: debian, svideo direct to TV... i saw it post bios on the TV screen and it booted properly and saw everything onTV like normal.....
[02:04] <chuckf> if you're not seeing the bios post, then something else in the setup is wrong
[02:04] <chuckf> if the bios post workd before
[02:04] <banet415> chuckf, now my setup is on a older tv, ubuntu livecd, svideo from geforce fx5500 -> svideo-to-composite-cable -> composite video plug on vcr -> vcr output to tv cable -> tv
[02:05] <banet415> chuckf ok then hmmm
[02:05] <banet415> is it possible i have a faulty svideo-to-composite cable
[02:05] <banet415> i know everything beyond the vcr works (ps2 plugged into vcr works)
[02:05] <doubled> are there any logs of the files you open in ubuntu ?
[02:06] <chuckf> jsut a guess, but I'm thinking the vcr inputs are wrong somehow
[02:06] <banet415> chuckf, cant be, ive used the same ports as where the ps2 was using
[02:06] <soundray> doubled: not really. Some apps record recent files in Places - Recent Documents
[02:06] <chuckf> okay
[02:07] <banet415> anyway this is probably beyond the scope of ubuntu
[02:07] <chuckf> then I'd have to guess the cable is bad
[02:07] <soundray> Rael420: ready
[02:07] <banet415> i will have to screw around and see
[02:07] <Rael420>  thanks soundray
[02:07] <chuckf> all else being equal that is
[02:07] <doubled> soundray: thx, do you also know how to delete the listing in there ?
[02:08] <LoRez> is there a way to make ubuntu boot more verbosely?
[02:08] <soundray> doubled: look at the last item...
[02:08] <Flannel> LoRez: remove quiet and splash from the grub entries
[02:08] <banet415> rael420, "i will dl and have a look" is from empornium
[02:08] <doubled> soundray: ah lol ok i didnt say anything xD
[02:09] <Herissy> does anyone know how to enable rdesktop in windows?
[02:09] <soundray> doubled: hiding your traces?
[02:09] <LoRez> oh, haha, I didn't see those there because they're not on the recovery options... thanks.
[02:09] <doubled> soundray: always, im a ninja
[02:09] <freescroll> i'm trying to share a folder in ubuntu 8 but i don't have permission, i tried sudo nautilus , i can share it, but the share doesn't stay once i close nautilus...
[02:10] <DIL> so linux has nothing similar to MAC times ...
[02:10] <freescroll> the big picture is, i want to share a folder to access over a windows vista network
[02:10] <NetEcho> has anyone had issues getting compiz effects to actually work under 8.04
[02:10] <yowshi> anyone know how i might be able to pull a vid off firefox that seems to be immune to all downloaders and grabbers i can find?
[02:10] <NetEcho> compiz runs but no effects work
[02:10] <freescroll> can anyone help me out?
[02:10] <soundray> DIL: is that a question?
[02:10] <BlueLaguna> yowshi: Install firebug
[02:10] <daryl_> When I go to System > Administration > Services, the "Unlock" button is grayed out.  How do fix this?
[02:10] <BlueLaguna> yowshi: and check the network tab for the large flv file
[02:10] <DIL> soundray: yes
[02:10] <linkmaster03> How do I force mount an NTFS partition?
[02:11] <doubled> well i tried upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 but then my network card didnt work anymore
[02:11] <DIL> soundray: was following you conv
[02:11] <yowshi> BlueLaguna: that a fiefox addon?
[02:11] <BlueLaguna> Yes
[02:11] <doubled> linkmaster03: the way to do that is explained in the error message you get
[02:11] <BlueLaguna> It's mainly intended for developers
[02:11] <soundray> DIL: what's MAC times ?
[02:11] <Rael420> yah
[02:11] <linkmaster03> doubled: oh yeah im stupid
[02:11] <Rael420> empornium
[02:11] <doubled> linkmaster03: :))
[02:11] <JuJuBee> Can someone give me a hand with upgrading?  Running 7.04 trying to get to 8.04 (7.10 first)... getting errors  http://paste.ubuntu.com/21707/
[02:11] <DIL> soundray: Modified - Accessed and Creation dates
[02:12] <soundray> DIL: yes, it does
[02:12] <danielm_mc> anyone have any help getting a VTbook videocard installed in ubuntu 8.04
[02:12] <DIL> soundray: ok ty
[02:12] <daryl_> Does anyone know how to make "Unlock" button not grayed out in the Services-Admin window?
[02:12] <yowshi> grrrr i thiought i already had upgraded to firefox 3
[02:12] <freescroll> can anyone help me network my ubuntu and vista machines?
[02:13] <Mo0oSaH> how do you change the font color of taskbar?
[02:13] <doubled> JuJuBee: it seems it cant find the files ? how are you trying to upgrade? the easiest way is to just click on the updates icon and then click 8.04 LTS"
[02:13] <soundray> DIL: it depends on the filesystem of course
[02:14] <JuJuBee> Running kubuntu so using adept and using version upgrade
[02:14] <JuJuBee> Seems that medibuntu is causing the errors.  Can I just comment those sources out?
[02:14] <yowshi> how come the firefox 3 update isnt in the repo?
[02:14] <Flannel> JuJuBee: yes, and you should.
[02:14] <DIL> soundray: ok - i was curious as deleting a file from recently viewed is not being ninja like
[02:14] <soundray> JuJuBee: you should if you're doing a release upgrade
[02:14] <Flannel> yowshi: it is.  hardy-updates, been there since the day FF3 was released
[02:14] <yowshi> ah figured
[02:14] <JuJuBee> What are they for?
[02:15] <yowshi> looks like i am finally forced into this
[02:15] <mynetdude> can anyone help with frostwire not starting in ubuntu 8.04 with either Java 1.6 or 1.5? here's the error with java 1.5
[02:15] <mynetdude>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/21704/
[02:15] <Flannel> yowshi: Forced into what?
[02:15] <yowshi> well it's been a month or two right should be ok
[02:15] <yowshi> Flannel: upgrading. i heard alot of bad stuff about the hardy upgrade
[02:15] <DIL> $0.02
[02:15] <Herissy> btw remote desktop isn't included with windows xp home for those who thought it did.
[02:15] <daryl_> Anyone know why my "Unlock" button is gray in the Services window?
[02:15] <Flannel> yowshi: ah, you're on gutsy?  FF3 final *should* be in gutsy-backports eventually.
[02:15] <yowshi> Flannel: yeah but i kind of need it now heh
[02:16] <Mo0oSaH> Flannel: Do you know how to change the font color on taskbar?
[02:16] <soundray> DIL: ninjas use live CDs with no persistence, and they take the RAM modules with them when they're done ;)
[02:16] <DIL> soundray: man after my own herat
[02:16] <yowshi> well guess i can try the older version
[02:16] <Flannel> yowshi: You can either find a third party repo, or install it outside of package management (which, if done properly, you can do harmoniously with package management).  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:17] <mynetdude> !torrent
[02:17] <Flannel> Mo0oSaH: No idea
[02:17] <DIL> Mo0oSaH: right click on task bar - properties
[02:17] <mynetdude> !p2p
[02:18] <mynetdude> !gnutella
[02:18] <whik> im having trouble launching regnum online
[02:18] <daryl_> I am unable to edit the Services Settings, because the Unlock button is grayed out.  Would someone tell me how to un-gray out the unlock button?
[02:18] <whik> is there a command to check to see what error shows up?
[02:18] <DIL> Mo0oSaH: background - choose your color
[02:18] <mynetdude> !limewire
[02:18] <yowshi> BlueLaguna: mms://harpo.wmod.llnwd.net/a2209/e1/podcast/ane/week1/webcast-cc-norm-3_4_2008.wmv this is what i am looking for right? this vid seems to be in wmv format
[02:19] <mynetdude> heh... both frostwire and limewire require java... such a hardy alternative
[02:19] <mynetdude> yet frostwire can't even run
[02:19] <BlueLaguna> yowshi: Possibly
[02:20] <doubled> just use newsserver ^_^
[02:20] <whik> can someone link me to the off topic i cant get the command right
[02:20] <BlueLaguna> yowshi: Podcasts usually use a non itunes link
[02:20] <BlueLaguna> *show
[02:21] <yowshi> BlueLaguna: well the Net tab shows 2 entires for this thing both only 148b
[02:21] <whik> #ubuntu off-topic is the channel name right?
[02:22] <danielm_mc> anyone ever install a vtbook on an x61 running ubuntu HH 8.04 ?
[02:22] <Flannel> whik: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:22] <DIL> whik: it is forward slash join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:22] <whik> thanks
[02:22] <BlueLaguna> yowshi: Did you try replacing mss with http:// in that url you just sent?
[02:23] <larubbio> Is anyone on who knows evolution pretty well?
[02:23] <danielm_mc> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-644894.html
[02:24] <yowshi> BlueLaguna: yes it only winds up loading the page with the video that i am currently inspecting trying to save as only gets me a 216byte file
[02:24] <Badie> hi
[02:25] <Badie> i need simple help
[02:25] <Badie> anyone can help me please ?
[02:25] <vipester> Im reading up on some WPA config stuff, if I edit /etc/network/interface, can I no longer use network manager?
[02:25] <DIL> larubbio: you wont know until you ask a ?
[02:25] <larubbio> Good point.
[02:26] <bluesfreak72> Hi there!
[02:26] <Badie> should i drop my qustion /
[02:26] <Badie> ?
[02:26] <Starnestommy> !ask | Badie
[02:26] <DIL> Badie: cradle it and see if you get an answer
[02:26] <larubbio> I'm trying to configure it so it expunges mails immediately when I do a delete.  Or have it actually do a move instead of a copy on delete.  I connect to my imap account from evolution and my blackberry.  I want evolution to remove all the spam from my inbox so the blackberry interface is clean when it syncs.  Currently it copies, so my blackberry is useless
[02:27] <BlueLaguna> http://www.pastethat.com/EX2An
[02:27] <teknoprep> i have a 64bit cpu... should i run x86_64 or x86.. from what i read there isn't a bit difference
[02:27] <BlueLaguna> I keep getting this error when I try to install Ubuntu
[02:27] <Badie> I have windows xp install on my laptop , and i have empty drive and want to install ubuntu on it , after i install it , i will have boot option and i wont lose the os windows XP ?
[02:28] <BlueLaguna> It complains about not being able to install grub
[02:28] <PunjabDaSher> Hey
[02:28] <BlueLaguna> My primary disk is sata and my secondary is IDE
[02:28] <bluesfreak72> I'm having an issue with 8.04 installed on a Gateway laptop.  It's locking up with no rhyme or reason as to why.  I'm not finding anything in /var/log/messages.  Whenever I run memtester, it always locks in Gnome, but kills itself before the test is run.  Anybody have any ideas of how to track this down?
[02:28] <PunjabDaSher> I was wondering if I could receive some help with some file sharing problems I'm having.
[02:28] <BlueLaguna> However, I had to do modprobe ide_generic to even boot into the installation
[02:29] <BlueLaguna> "Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed. This is a fatal error."
[02:29] <BlueLaguna> that's what I'm getting
[02:29] <Starnestommy> Badie: if you install it correctly, it should automatically detect windows and let you choose it when you boot up
[02:29] <Badie> Starnestommy Thanks
[02:29] <DIL> larubbio: have you checked under preferences
[02:30] <larubbio> yep, it's pretty slim in the gui, I'm wondering if there are more prefs in a config file.
[02:30] <larubbio> Also for expunging the options are on exit, daily, weekly, monthly.  I never exit (or rarely), and I'd like an immediatly option in there.
[02:30] <DIL> larubbio: have you checked under preferences then mail preferences -
[02:31] <vipester> I have edited my /etc/network/interface file to try to get wpa to work, is it normal that my network-manager no longer works?
[02:31] <SCBobbear> Howdy all, new ubuntu user here.  I need help.
[02:32] <PunjabDaSher> When I try to access to my XP box on my network, i can check all the way to MSHOME (the name of my workgroup) but no computers are listed, and I cannot access them with smb://192.168.1.XXX, but I can ping them.
[02:32] <larubbio> DIL: yep, those prefs don't do what I want, I need others.
[02:32] <SCBobbear> I am having install problems.
[02:33] <SCBobbear> I want to load ubuntu on my laptop.  I am having problems with the install .iso.
[02:33] <danielm_mc> i'm having video card issues ; vtbook trident cyberblade xp2 pcmcia card on an X61 thinkpad running 8.04
[02:35] <kohnrad1982> Does anyone know of a scanner to check for keyloggers in Ubuntu?
[02:35] <PunjabDaSher> Anybody please, I really need help on some home network problems.
[02:35] <coil> ifconfig
[02:36] <PunjabDaSher> OK.
[02:36] <SCBobbear> ifconfig maybe?
[02:36] <PunjabDaSher> yea that just lists my internet configuration like ip adresses and stuff
[02:37] <SCBobbear> My bad sorry.
[02:37] <SCBobbear> you are correct.
[02:37] <PunjabDaSher> no problem, its alright.
[02:37] <coil> PunjabDaSher: whats wrong
[02:37] <bazhang> PunjabDaSher, what network card, ethernet or wifi etc
[02:38] <PunjabDaSher> When I try to view my computers under my network on ubuntu, no computers show up
[02:38] <PunjabDaSher> the workgroup shows up fine
[02:38] <PunjabDaSher> lemme list my specs h//o
[02:38] <bazhang> PunjabDaSher, you have samba or nfs
[02:38] <PunjabDaSher> samba
[02:38] <PunjabDaSher> i tried connecting to my computers by doing smb://192.168.102
[02:39] <alakdan> has anyone used debmirror here?
[02:39] <PunjabDaSher> says it doesnt work
[02:39] <PunjabDaSher> but i can ping the box fine
[02:39] <PunjabDaSher> anyways here is my setupid
[02:39] <PunjabDaSher> linksys wrt54g (wireless connection)
[02:39] <larubbio> PunjabDaSher: Do you ahve anything exported as a share on those machines?
[02:39] <PunjabDaSher> my wifi card is an broadcom 4310
[02:40] <PunjabDaSher> yea
[02:40] <afallenhope> Hey I installed gproftpd and I was just wondering... I uninstalled it however... there's still some settings like.. I have a new folder in my /home named "ftp" and I have a /etc/ftpusers.conf file... is it safe to delete those?
[02:40] <coil> im sorry
[02:40] <PunjabDaSher> if i use another xp or vista machine, i can acess the files fine
[02:40] <vipester> Can someone help me config WPA (with network manager)?  I can only connect to wep/open networks
[02:40] <PunjabDaSher> so the server side of it is fine i believe
[02:40] <Herissy> omfg I can finally see my windows shares on the network.
[02:41] <SCBobbear> cool.
[02:41]  * SCBobbear is pulling what is left of his hair out.
[02:41] <PunjabDaSher> weird thing is, i can go to places>network>Windows Network>MSHOME and thn none of my computers are listed
[02:41] <Herissy> just by sheer luck apparently, never been able to do it before.
[02:41] <larubbio> PunjabDaSher: can you manually mount those machines?
[02:41] <larubbio> mount //192.168.1.XX/<share> /mnt/<local mount> (I forget the exact syntax, let me try on my system)
[02:42] <PunjabDaSher> amritpal@amritpal-laptop:~$ mount //<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:42] <PunjabDaSher> mount: can't find //<IP_ADDRESS> in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:42] <SCBobbear> I need help installing ubuntu.  I am on a laptop and have had ubuntu before. I am trying to make the switch to 100% ubuntu. I don't want Windows on my machine at all.  Can someone give me a hand.
[02:42] <shubbar> i need to remove wicd and install network manager
[02:42] <Herissy> now I can backup my system to that drive. nice.
[02:42] <shubbar> but if i remove wicd, then i have no connection!
[02:42] <Herissy> anyone know a good backup routine un ubuntu?
[02:42] <PunjabDaSher> Herissy i think i might have the same problem as you, how did you fix your machine
[02:43] <Herissy> went to Places | Network |
[02:43] <vipester> shubbar if you do apt-get install network-manager it should take care of it
[02:43] <kohnrad1982> Anyone know of a way to scan for keyloggers on Ubuntu?
[02:43] <larubbio> Do you have permisisons on your share?  If so perhaps nautalis can't connect since the shares require a login?
[02:44] <Herissy> Windows Network | MSHOME | then the shares.
[02:44] <PunjabDaSher> yea the shares arnt listed under mshome
[02:44] <PunjabDaSher> and no i dont have them protected with passwords
[02:44] <Herissy> they never showed up before, I didn't change anything
[02:44] <PunjabDaSher> weird
[02:44] <larubbio> I have this in my /etc/fstab to manually mount a share:
[02:44] <larubbio> //kitty/backups    /mnt/backups        cifs    auto,credentials=/root/.credentials,iocharset=utf8,nounix,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[02:44] <Herissy> all the sudden now they do
[02:44] <MatthewV> SCBobbear, is there any particular problem that you've encountered? Have you tried to install yet?
[02:45] <shubbar> vipester, worked, thanks
[02:45] <SCBobbear> Hi matthewv.  I tried using the burned iso that I donwloaded.
[02:45] <SCBobbear> realised that I had nothing installed even though it looked like it was doing something.
[02:46] <PunjabDaSher> I'm kind of a noob at linux in general, so could you explain what fstab is
[02:46] <vipester> shubbar, np.  ive been switching to try and get my wpa to work lol
[02:46] <SCBobbear> I had a real disk before and was able to pop it in my computer and get rid of windows totally and have a 100 percent linux box.
[02:46] <onats> hi, i hvae a USB hard drive here that i want to format, but when i try to do it in gparted, i can't. its somewhat read only. how do i enable reformatting/repartitioning?
[02:46] <SCBobbear> I was advised to use the text based installer and just got it downloaded and am gonna burn it.
[02:46] <larubbio> for the detail doc you can type 'man fstab'
[02:46] <PunjabDaSher> k
[02:46] <SCBobbear> but I was wondering what I might be doing wrong and need a hand getting rid of windows.
[02:47] <mynetdude> I found a solution on how to fix the java problem
[02:47] <Herissy> lol and now just like that its broken again
[02:47] <MatthewV> SCBobbear, from what you've been describing, the desktop cd is probably your best bet - it just works in over 95% of cases
[02:47] <Herissy> I can't do anything with them ugh.
[02:47] <larubbio> in short it is a file that lists different filesystem that can be mounted and how to mount them.  You shouldn't need to do it, I was just hoping that using that system you might get an error message that explains why they aren't being automounted.
[02:47] <SCBobbear> so go ahead with the burned iso of desktop with the text based installer?
[02:47] <mynetdude> anyway I tried to run sudo apt-get remove sun-java* and I get two errors saying that E: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock open 1 resource temporarily unavailable, unable to lock the admin directory
[02:48] <PunjabDaSher> o
[02:48] <wolfjb> I just did an upgrade and got linux-image-2.6.24-19 linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-19 and now my nvidia 6200 card is not recognized. how to fix?
[02:48] <SCBobbear> 'cause the other version isn't helping me get rid of windows like the disk I had a year ago.
[02:48] <larubbio> you can also look at /etc/mtab to see what is currently mounted by the system.  You shouldn't edit that file.
[02:48] <PunjabDaSher> thing is, my workgroup is showing up, which is odd
[02:48] <mynetdude> how do I stop the process that is blocking me from being able to remove java?
[02:48] <larubbio> It might be that it can see that, but none of the computers.
[02:49] <mynetdude> or how do I know what process?
[02:49] <MatthewV> SCBobbear, if you use the desktop installer, and you want to replace windows entirely, you need to select the option that tells ubuntu to use all available disk space, the text mode installer is only intended if the desktop cd won't boot or you need an advanced install
[02:49] <overridex> anyone know a mirror for the latest madwifi snapshots? madwifi.org appears to be down
[02:49] <mynetdude> PunjabDaSher I have the same problem
[02:49] <afallenhope> Can someone help me out here? having issues. I installed gproftpd and I had two users setup. I don't want the service so I type sudo apt-get purge gproftpd howver I still have the group "ftpusers" and when I try to remove it .. it says: http://pastebin.com/m27b66ee3
[02:49] <SCBobbear> MatthewV, gotcha.  I will give it a shot.
[02:49] <SCBobbear> thank you so much.  I will be back one way or another.  Thanks again guys.
[02:49] <SCBobbear> I appreaciate it.
[02:50] <MatthewV> SCBobbear, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall may help
[02:50] <larubbio> PunjabDaSher: try a command like this: mount //winserver/public /mnt/public -t smbfs -o username=kim,password=foo -o gid=users,dmask=777,fmask=777,rw
[02:50] <SCBobbear> thanks again.
[02:50] <larubbio> I grabbe dit from this page: http://kim.biyn.com/Linux/how_to_mount_samba_windows_shares_at_boot_time_via_fstab
[02:50] <wolfjb> do I need to start using envy to get my nvidia driver to work? maybe I'm missing something?
[02:50] <PunjabDaSher> ok lemme try that
[02:50] <oxi> hi
[02:50] <larubbio> you can leave off the second -o and everything after it for now
[02:50] <afallenhope> Can someone help me out here? having issues. I installed gproftpd and I had two users setup. I don't want the service so I type sudo apt-get purge gproftpd howver I still have the group "ftpusers" and when I try to remove it .. it says: http://pastebin.com/m27b66ee3
[02:50] <erdem_> #ubuntu-tr
[02:51] <oxi> I'm trying to change a symlink but nothig happens, can anyone help please? ... sudo ln -fhsv /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.6.0 /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/CurrentJDK
[02:51] <SCBobbear> I may have just screwed up tring to run the iso from the exe option.  I will check it out.  Thanks matthew.
[02:51] <freescroll> can anyone point me to a tutorial to access ubuntu folders via vista? thx
[02:51] <oxi> I also tried using unlink or remove first
[02:51] <mynetdude> larubbio does that command work even with simple file sharing?
[02:51] <MatthewV> SCBobbear, if you look on that link I posted, at the Select a Disk section, you just need to go with the default if you only have one HDD :)
[02:51] <freescroll> ubuntu heron
[02:51] <PunjabDaSher> it said no such file or directory
[02:51] <MatthewV> SCBobbear, all the best then :D
[02:51] <wers> how do I update my menu.lst?
[02:52] <wers> I purged old kernels. now, I can't boot
[02:52] <freescroll> can anyone point me to a tutorial to access ubuntu folders via vista? thx
[02:52] <larubbio> you'll need to create the /mnt/public directory first.
[02:52] <vipester> how do i configure wpa for hardy heron (and network manager), there are so many different instructions laying around...
[02:52] <LesserRemarkable> how do i locate and open port of set the bit torrent software to
[02:52] <ubuntu> i have a desktop that shares out my home directory via nfs.  i mount it up on my laptop in /home/craig/remote.  what is the one liner equivilent to the fstab entry that does that on the laptop? I'm trying to mount it up on a livecd instance of xubuntu (since I'm using this box anyway and don't feel like unpacking my laptop) but I know there's some user specific stuff in the fstab line
[02:52] <PunjabDaSher> k
[02:52] <larubbio> Not sure what you mean by simple filesharing.  Ideally you shouldn't have to do that, I'm just hoping for an error message
[02:53] <M4rotku> how can i tell that my video card is working?
[02:53] <PunjabDaSher> basically i have my xp box set up to share files like music and video and stuff
[02:53] <ubuntu> M4rotku, you can see?
[02:53] <PunjabDaSher> a simple home network
[02:53] <M4rotku> yes
[02:53] <PunjabDaSher> and i can't access it through my ubuntu laptop
[02:53] <mynetdude> larubbio well by default when you setup shares in windows it is setup in simple file sharing and PunjabDaSher and I have the same problem so I am wondernig if the simple file sharing is the culprit?
[02:54] <mynetdude> PunjabDaSher XP home or pro?
[02:54] <PunjabDaSher> i go to Places>Network>Windows Network>MSHOME>no computers :[
[02:54] <craig-o> PunjabDaSher, I came in late.  what's the issue?
[02:54] <PunjabDaSher> xp home
[02:54] <mynetdude> PunjabDaSher same here
[02:54] <mynetdude> well actually PunjabDaSher I get the computer, but no shares to access
[02:54] <larubbio> ok, I've got XP Pro.
[02:54] <PunjabDaSher> @ craig-o basically i have my xp box set up to share files like music and video and stuff
[02:54] <MatthewV> freescroll, you looking for something like http://www.fs-driver.org/
[02:54] <mynetdude> hmm you might not be able to do it in XP Home, but I know Pro has a few options
[02:55] <mynetdude> I won't touch xp home
[02:55] <PunjabDaSher> and i cant access it from my ubuntu laptop
[02:55] <LesserRemarkable> how would i determine an open port for my bit torrent software to use?
[02:55] <craig-o> PunjabDaSher, and you can't get at them fomr ubuntu? is there a firewall running on the xo box?  Norton?
[02:55] <PunjabDaSher> no firewalls on the xp box
[02:55] <PunjabDaSher> no firewalls on my ubuntu box either
[02:55] <craig-o> PunjabDaSher, the windows box's own firewall isn't on?
[02:55] <LesserRemarkable> what about the built in firewall on xp
[02:55] <PunjabDaSher> nope
[02:56] <PunjabDaSher> its off
[02:56] <LesserRemarkable> or one somewhere in the actual network
[02:56] <PunjabDaSher> i can access the files on my xp box fine from another xp/vista machine
[02:56] <PunjabDaSher> just my ubuntu install thats acting upp
[02:56] <PunjabDaSher> up*
[02:56] <LesserRemarkable> my router had one built in and i couldn't network between my xp and vista because of it
[02:57] <craig-o> PunjabDaSher, what's something like (anyone correct my syntax if it's wrong) sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Documents /mnt  do? 192.x.x is your windows box ip and /mnt is the folder where you're mounting up the share
[02:57] <PunjabDaSher> yea, i just got my laptop, and it had vista earlier today, i acessed all my files fine, and then i installed ubuntu and now thiss
[02:58] <craig-o> PunjabDaSher, good for you ditchnig Vista.  I had to play with it last night on someone's laptop and my bald spot got bigger...
[02:58] <PunjabDaSher> mount error 6 = No such device or address
[02:58] <craig-o> i have a desktop that shares out my home directory via nfs.  i mount it up on my laptop in /home/craig/remote.  what is the one liner equivilent to the fstab entry that does that on the laptop? I'm trying to mount it up on a livecd instance of xubuntu (since I'm using this box anyway and don't feel like unpacking my laptop) but I know there's some user specific stuff in the fstab line
[02:58] <dlozarie> hi guys, how do I increase the disk space Ubuntu can use? See, I dual-boot with Vista, and although there's like >15GB of space left on my disk, Ubuntu says it's got only ~2GB of space left to use. How do I increase that?
[02:58] <PunjabDaSher> when i entered it in
[02:58] <PunjabDaSher> yea vista simply put blows.
[02:58] <PunjabDaSher> lol
[02:59] <PunjabDaSher> slow as heck and is too clunky
[02:59] <a> serhat
[02:59] <xTorT> how big is a general ubuntu installation?
[02:59] <craig-o> PunjabDaSher, you got the ip right?  DOcuments might not have been right.  I usually go on the XP box and right click on the share to see what it's actualy share name is.
[02:59] <dlozarie> hi guys, how do I increase the disk space Ubuntu can use? See, I dual-boot with Vista, and although there's like >15GB of space left on my disk, Ubuntu says it's got only ~2GB of space left to use. How do I increase the space usable by Linux?
[02:59] <PunjabDaSher> yea
[02:59] <PunjabDaSher> ip is correct
[02:59] <PunjabDaSher> my box responds to ping
[02:59] <onats> !ext3
[02:59] <craig-o> dlozarie, dude, you just asked that.  have a glass of settle down
[03:00] <Storrgie> Is there a hotkey to switch between workspaces?
[03:00] <Marty81> is there a way to make symlinks with ln to a network directory (e.g. "smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/share/directory)? (It keeps creating files instead of folders)
[03:00] <NetEcho> how do you get a trash icon for your desktop?
[03:00] <xTorT> hi how big is ubuntu install?
[03:00] <dlozarie> @craig-o, yeah sorry. :D
[03:00] <Starnestommy> xTorT: at least 2 GB
[03:00] <mynetdude> it is?
[03:00] <craig-o> dlozarie, although my first inclination would be to get rid of windows.  that'd free up all kinds of space.  worked for me!
[03:01] <mynetdude> ah nvm was thinking xubuntu
[03:01] <Starnestommy> Storrgie: ctrl+alt+left, ctrl+alt+right, and ctrl+alt+down
[03:01] <xTorT> Starnestommy, ok, is there any benefit to installing off the text based install?
[03:01] <dlozarie> @craig-o, too scary. I'm not removing Windows for now. Altho I just boot into Windows whenever I need to update my iTunes podcasts. :D
[03:01] <Storrgie> Starnestommy: I love you.
[03:01] <xTorT> Starnestommy, and can I customize ther kernel?
[03:01] <craig-o> Marty81, I think you have to mount up the share, then symlink to the mount point
[03:02] <craig-o> dlozarie, it'll be awesome.  Do it UP!
[03:02] <Marty81> how exactly do I mount to a share?
[03:02] <dlozarie> how do I view my remaining disk space again? last time I checked, twas around <2GB.
[03:02] <Starnestommy> xTorT: the text-based installer is less prone to hardware problems and gives you more choice over which packages get installed.  Normally, you shouldn't compile your own kernel
[03:02] <craig-o> Marty81, if you can see files on a remote box, it's mounted
[03:02] <mynetdude> hey how do I get to a process explorer-like thing in ubuntu?
[03:02] <mynetdude> ah nvm... I know how
[03:02] <xTorT> Starnestommy, oh ok, so this is a hands-off installation
[03:03] <craig-o> dlozarie, man df.  something like df -h /
[03:03] <Marty81> ok, but then ln isn't working right.. cause I can create links, but it won't create a folder. instead it creates a broken file...
[03:03] <craig-o> mynetdude, ps -ef?
[03:03] <mvinsc> hey, half the time when i run firefox it doesn't have a window.
[03:03] <mvinsc> any thoughts??
[03:03] <craig-o> run it just the other half the time then.  aw haw haw.... sorry.
[03:03] <mvinsc> thanks
[03:04] <craig-o> I've been having firefox issues too; thinking of setting up 3 to see what happens
[03:04] <Marty81> I typed the following: ln -s "smb://.." "Folder"
[03:04] <craig-o> Marty81, nope, doesn't work that way.
[03:04] <greg78yo> I've been happily using Ubuntu Hardy for two months now, and today when I restarted it said "Grub error 18"  Any ideas?  It's a new system, so I don't think most of the search results apply to me.
[03:04] <Marty81> O.o   how then?
[03:05] <PunjabDaSher> craig-o, on my xp install, it says the share name of my folder is Amrit's Music
[03:05] <craig-o> Marty81, you have to have the remote filesystem mounted up (might already be--type  sudo mount and see if it is) then link to wher eit mounted.
[03:05] <PunjabDaSher> is that what i insert in the command u gave me
[03:05] <craig-o> PunjabDaSher, give 'er some
[03:05] <Marty81> ok.. lemme try that..
[03:05] <dlozarie> I typed df -h into a terminal window and some stuff appeared. not so good at reading this kind of data tho. Can anyone take a look at this and tell me how much space I have left? thx! http://paste.ubuntu.com/21715/
[03:06] <PunjabDaSher> sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Amrit's Music /mnt
[03:06] <greg78yo> I tried this but it didn't help: http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/
[03:06] <craig-o> Marty81, so, if the remote share is mounted up in /mnt and there's a folder in it called /mnt/spiffy  then you'd run a command something like ln -s /mnt/spiffy /home/marty/spiffy
[03:06] <Shubbar> how do i start network-manager?
[03:06] <Marty81> well, mnt is empty
[03:06] <PunjabDaSher> craig-o i entered that command in, and now its hung up in terminal at >
[03:07] <greg78yo> Anyone have ideas on this Grub error 18?
[03:07] <Moes> Wanting to upgrade Firefox 2 to Firefox 3 can ubuntuzilla be used in Ubuntu Gutsy
[03:07] <craig-o> Marty81, did you type sudo mount first to see if the samba share is mounted up anywhere?
[03:07] <Marty81> no samba share either...
[03:07] <craig-o> dlozarie, yep, you only have 2 gigs left on the root partition
[03:07] <onats> in avant window manager, how do i retain the loaded applications there
[03:07] <onats> or 'dock' icons there
[03:08] <greg78yo> no grub experts here I guess?
[03:08] <Shubbar> vipester, now how do i start network manager?
[03:08] <craig-o> PunjabDaSher, still hung?
[03:08] <onats> greg78yo, what is wrong with your grub?
[03:08] <Marty81> I'm actually rather new to Linux, so I'm more or less lost with mounting devices/network shares etc
[03:08] <greg78yo> onats: it says grub error 18 when I try to boot
[03:08] <dlozarie> Guys, can anyone take a look at this and tell me how much space I have left? sry, but I'm not good at reading this kind of data. tnx! http://paste.ubuntu.com/21715/
[03:08] <dlozarie> @craig-o, sorry I didn't see your reply.
[03:08] <craig-o> hey guys, I've got to get out.  I'll be back as craigbass76.  I'm getting confused and will let you all pm me so I can keep stuff straight
[03:08] <dlozarie> @craig-o, thanks.
[03:08] <craig-o> brb
[03:09] <onats> greg78yo, did you have any hardware changes recently?
[03:09] <Ikkebr2> where can I find arm-linux-gcc ?
[03:09] <country_main> I have a problem with hardy heron.  My double and single quote does not show up, I have to press either key twice
[03:09] <Marty81> well, I know how to mount a hard drive.. but no clue on network shares
[03:09] <greg78yo> onats: about 3 weeks ago I installed a new hard drive.  But it's been working fine up until today.
[03:10] <we||s> hi ya
[03:10] <dlozarie> guys, I have only 2gbs left on my Ubuntu partition. How can I increase the space?
[03:10] <craigbass1976> dlozarie, you're  not going to delete windows?
[03:10] <dlozarie> @craigbass, nah. not right now. maybe when I'm really, really sure I don't need it.
[03:11] <Storrgie> should i run a firewall in ubuntu?
[03:11] <craigbass1976> Marty81, ok, on the windows box, right click on whatever is shared out to get the actual share name.  Also, get the ip address of the box
[03:11] <Shubbar> what the command to start network manager?
[03:11] <we||s> how to change owner of folder and sub folder + all files contained at once?
[03:11] <craigbass1976> Storrgie, if you're not running any services, I wouldn't bother
[03:11] <Mo0oSaH> dlozarie: use gparted to resize partitions... you can also use a live cd
[03:11] <greg78yo> onats: any ideas?  Should I reinstall Ubuntu?
[03:11] <onats> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB
[03:11] <onats> not just yet..i'm sure there's a way to fix that
[03:11] <Storrgie> craigbass1976: I'm just running a laptop... but im pretty 'sluttty' I visit alot of public networks
[03:12] <greg78yo> onats: I'll read the link you sent.  Let me know if you think of anything
[03:12] <NetEcho> anyone know if there is a awn-core-applets for Hardy?
[03:12] <Mo0oSaH> dlozarie: but make sure that the partitions you will resize are not mounted!
[03:12] <onats> yeah, will do
[03:12] <dlozarie> @Moosah, yeah I have a live CD here. how do I know they're not mounted?
[03:12] <Marty81> the path would be smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/sda  for the share
[03:12] <onats> is gparted safe in moving windows partitions?
[03:12] <greg78yo> onats: btw I tried this already but it didn't help: http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/
[03:12] <craigbass1976> Storrgie, if you're not sharing anything out (nfs or samba) and not running apache, MySQL, etc, then I wouldn't bother if I were you
[03:12] <sean_> is it weird that I can only connect to my wpa network if im connected through ethernet to that same network?
[03:12] <country_main> help, my keyboard is not working properly
[03:13] <Marty81> netbios names don't work for some reason on this comp
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> onats: its as safe as it can be, but that doesn't mean something goes wrong, you really need to make sure you have a backup
[03:13] <Mo0oSaH> dlozarie: if you boot into live CD, they wont be mounted automatically, alternatively if you don't see them showing up on your desktop then they are not mounted
[03:13] <onats> indygunfreak, don't have enough extra drives to perform a backup! heheh
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> onats: well, then you're living on the edge..lol
[03:13] <onats> i have an old IDE harddrive, which i use to store my songs on itunes. suddenly some songs disappear!!
[03:13] <onats> lol
[03:14] <Mo0oSaH> IndyGunFreak: aren't most of us? could be a good offtopic discussion
[03:14] <dlozarie> @moosah, my two hard drives were on my desktop before, but now they don't show up.
[03:14] <craigbass1976> Marty81, in a terminal, type    sudo mount     and paste the output to rafb.net or some other pastebin
[03:14] <Moes> Can I upgrade to Firefox 3 using Ubuntuzilla
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> Mo0oSaH: don't know about you, i have two backups, 1 gets backed up every couple days, 1 gets updated about 1-2x a month
[03:14]  * craigbass1976 is googling for ubuntuzilla... never heard of it
[03:15] <webcamwonder> Moes: It is preferred that you update using the aptitude
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntuzilla?
[03:15] <Mo0oSaH> dlozarie: then they are not mounted... you can also right click and unmount if they seem to be mounted
[03:15] <pinkster> does anybody know about a "tickless kernel"?
[03:15] <KyleK> nope
[03:15] <KyleK> do tell
[03:15] <dlozarie> @moosah, I right-clicked on one of the disks and an "unmount" option appeared. I should click this, right?
[03:15] <wers> I installed windows on another partition but I don't know how to put it on my menu.lst. any idea?
[03:15] <Mo0oSaH> dlozarie: yup!
[03:16] <Marty81>  http://rafb.net/p/6l49sf39.html
[03:16] <dlozarie> @moosah, yay! tnx! after that, what do I do next? :D
[03:16] <pinkster> kylek, about a tickless kernel?
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> wers: is windows on the first partition or the second partition, what?
[03:16] <wers> IndyGunFreak, fourht
[03:16] <wers> fourth
[03:16] <craigbass1976> Marty81, ok, so it's not already mounted.
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> wers: that could be all sorts of fun..no clue on that one
[03:17] <Mo0oSaH> dlozarie: i don't think ubuntu live cd has gparted installed. try to run it from terminal by sudo gparted, if it doesn't work then do sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:17] <KyleK> pinkster: looks neat
[03:17] <pinkster> well it has something to do with "config_no_hz"
[03:17] <Mo0oSaH> dlozarie: then just open it up and then it's fairly straight forward
[03:17] <MrRich> Hello
[03:17] <pinkster> but i dont know how to set it up
[03:17] <craigbass1976> what does something like sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/sda /mnt  do?
[03:17] <IndyGunFreak> Mo0oSaH: if it doesn't, sudo apt-get install gparted will install it.. but i think its on the hardy cd
[03:17] <KyleK> pinkster: yea its a compile option, look at how to compile a kernel
[03:17] <craigbass1976> Marty81, what does something like sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/sda /mnt  do?
[03:17] <dlozarie> @moosah, I'd said earlier that I right clicked on "one of the disks". Actually, I should've said, "one of the partitions" since I only have one hard disk partitioned into two. :D Imma enter that command now. thx.
[03:17] <pinkster> kylek: heh... compiling a kernel
[03:17] <KyleK> it might be really easy
[03:17] <onats> how do i add permanent icons to avant window manager?
[03:17] <pinkster> it would be an interesting project
[03:17] <Marty81> lemme try that
[03:18] <dlozarie> @mooosah, "sudo gparted" command not found. :(
[03:18] <craigbass1976> been so long since I've run windows, this samba stuff is weird to remember
[03:18] <pinkster> apparently it has something to do with power consumption
[03:18] <Mo0oSaH> dlozarie: make sure all the partitions on the harddrive are unmounted
[03:18] <KyleK> CONFIG what?
[03:18] <dlozarie> @moosah, okay, so both the partitions I unmount. tnx.
[03:18] <MrRich> question: in order to dual boot ubuntu / Xp do I need to install ubuntu?
[03:18] <craigbass1976> MrRich, yes
[03:18] <LesserRemarkable> is there a program available to defrag the hard drive from inside Ubuntu?
[03:18] <onats> mrrich, huh?
[03:18] <Mo0oSaH> MrRich: you need to install both to dual boot no?
[03:19] <Marty81> this: http://rafb.net/p/gyxiGN53.html
[03:19] <dlozarie> @mooosah, command still not found. :(
[03:19] <pinkster> mrrich, you could look at virtualization also
[03:19] <webcamwonder> LesserRemarkable, no. Not yet
[03:19] <Mo0oSaH> dlozarie: which command?
[03:19] <dlozarie> sudo gparted?
[03:19] <MrRich> I've done the section where it says try it out first but nothing is working
[03:19] <craigbass1976> MrRich, by definition, dual booting is having two OSs on the same box.  You could just play though and only run the livecd until you're ready to take the plunge
[03:19] <pinkster> mrrich, how do you mean it's not working?
[03:19] <Mo0oSaH> then install it with sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:19] <MrRich> it wants to load drivers and things...trying to get the wireless connection to work but can't seem to do that
[03:19] <craigbass1976> MrRich, linux and wireless still have a way to go
[03:19] <dlozarie> @mooosah, turns out gparted ain't installed yet. installing now. :D
[03:20] <pinkster> mrrich, hmm... so you're running the live cd? if yo do install, you should try to connect with ethernet when you do it in case you have to troubleshoot your wireless
[03:20] <MrRich> hmm I can't even get the ethernet to connect with XP I'm on wireless...laptop
[03:20] <craigbass1976> Oh, HEY ANYONE!!!!!  is smbfs now cifs in Ubuntu too?
[03:21] <pinkster> mrrich, what sort of laptop is it?
[03:21] <MrRich> Gateway
[03:21] <KyleK> craigbass1976: maybe
[03:21] <ianliu_88> is there a program which tries to read a text from an image and output it as a text?
[03:21] <dlozarie> @mooosah, I'm in gparted now, but I can't click on the resize button.
[03:21] <craigbass1976> Marty81, you can try cifs instead of smbfs.  I remember that replacement happening in Fedora, but didn't know it arrived in Ubuntu yet
[03:21] <Mo0oSaH> MrRich: I have Gateway, what model is your?
[03:21] <pinkster> mrrich, you would probably have to find out what sort of wireless card it is
[03:21] <KyleK> oh
[03:21] <greg78yo> \connect irc.gnu.org
[03:21] <MrRich> mx6214
[03:21] <KyleK> craigbass1976: you have to get the smbfs package separately i think
[03:21] <craigbass1976> Marty81, -t  cifs  rather than -t smbfs   rest of the command is the came
[03:21] <Marty81> ok.. let me try that...
[03:22] <Mo0oSaH> dlozarie: I'm not too familiar with gparted options, maybe someone can help to continue you from here...
[03:22] <craigbass1976> KyleK, he's not trying to share, just mount up a windows share
[03:22] <IronJa1> dlozarie: is the partition you want to resize unmounted?
[03:22] <ianliu_88> I scanned some texts sheets and I wanted to convert them to text instead of image... Is there an application which would do this for me?
[03:22] <dlozarie> @mooosah, thank you for the help! ^_^
[03:22] <Marty81> same error
[03:22] <KyleK> smbfs isn't samba
[03:22] <dlozarie> @IronJa1, yes I've unmounted both my partitions. :D
[03:22] <MrRich> Mo0oSaH MX6214
[03:22] <greg78yo> I'm still stuck on this grub error 18.  Any ideas?  onats?
[03:22] <webcamwonder> ianliu_88 you need to look for an OCR application
[03:22] <craigbass1976> PunjabDaSher, did you catch that?  smbfs might not be what you need to type.  -t cifs might be it
[03:22] <ianliu_88> webcamwonder: Ok, I will search
[03:22] <ianliu_88> webcamwonder: thanks
[03:22] <alakdan> how do you make debmirror work for this apt sources.list entry deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/geubuntu/ hardy/
[03:23] <webcamwonder> ianuliu_88 no problems
[03:23] <onats> greg78yo, what happened when you ran the fix GRUB steps?
[03:23] <craigbass1976> PunjabDaSher, Ctrl C if it's still hung and it will quit out of the command you had running
[03:23] <onats> im no expert, but i'm just here to talk to you. heheh
[03:23] <greg78yo> onats: from the link I sent.  I followed those steps and grub didn't compalin, but I restarted and still got the same error 18
[03:24] <pinkster> mrrich, one option would be to try ndiswrapper, which uses windows drivers inside linux
[03:24] <IronJa1> dlozarie sry, got online some secs ago. can you do anything else withe these partitions? deleting, format to other fileformats or so? (sry 4 my english)
[03:24] <greg78yo> onats: Is there a grub irc I should try?
[03:24] <dlozarie> @IronJa1, what do you mean? like, can I delete files on the partitions?
[03:24] <Mo0oSaH> greg78yo: grub irc?
[03:24] <greg78yo> Mo0oSaH: How do I get there?
[03:25] <pinkster> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper ... but you'll have to have an internet connection to download the program you need or you could burn it to a cd in advance
[03:25] <onats> i think he's looking for a channel. you can try #linux
[03:25] <Mo0oSaH> greg78yo: What is grub irc?
[03:25] <KyleK> alakdan: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror
[03:25] <craigbass1976> Mo0oSaH,   /join #grub
[03:25] <Ikkebr2> where can I find arm-linux-gcc ?
[03:25] <mynetdude> hey guys I'm trying to follow instructions on this page but the sudo mv command won't work, the error I get is mv: cannot stat /homebigiron//xxx no such file or directory but the file is there
[03:25] <mynetdude> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=539423&highlight=how+to+manually+install+Java
[03:26] <KyleK> Ikkebr2: try arm-gcc?
[03:26] <mynetdude> errr /home/bigiron
[03:26] <IronJa1> dlozarie: there are other button: new [partition], delete etc. can you use one of these for the partitions you want to resize?
[03:26] <Mo0oSaH> craigbass1976: I know what grub is but what is grub irc?
[03:26] <craigbass1976> mynetdude, are you using two // in the path like you just pasted here?
[03:26] <Marty81> craigbass1976, any other ideas on mounting network shares? your last option gave me the same error...
[03:26] <luke-dex> does anyone know if this would work with linux ????  http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12936~r.83188615
[03:26] <mynetdude> craigbass1976 am I supposed to?
[03:26] <craigbass1976> Mo0oSaH, the irc grub room
[03:26] <craigbass1976> mynetdude, no
[03:26] <dlozarie> help, I can't resize my partitions from gparted. both partitions unmounted already. :|
[03:26] <Mo0oSaH> craigbass1976: ah I see..
[03:27] <mynetdude> craigbass1976 no, I'm not using //
[03:27] <alakdan> KyleK, I have been using debmirror for a while now, but usually there is a parameter for the 'section' part. :) Will read the url you gave me and might find something that can help me :) thanks.
[03:27] <mynetdude> I'm trying to move the java 6u6 JRE runtime from my home folder to the /usr/lib/jvm
[03:27] <KyleK> alakdan: skip down to the shell script, its got too many darn comments ;)
[03:27] <mynetdude> I even tried to do it via the GUI, and I get a permission denied so... this is really starting to not work out very well
[03:27] <craigbass1976> Marthy, bleah... I don't know without sitting there.  I haven't got a windows box to play with and give you a play by play, or I would.  Could be I'm forgetting a step
[03:27] <pinkster> lula-dex, not sure... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam might provide some info
[03:28] <mynetdude> I really wish I could just copy/move as I please in GUI
[03:28] <webcamwonder> mynetdude
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: why can't you?
[03:28] <webcamwonder> mynetdude are you trying to move a folder?
[03:28] <pinkster> dlozarie, are you using the livecd or from within ubuntu?
[03:28] <mynetdude> no I'm trying to move a .bin file to a folder
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: so move it
[03:28] <dlozarie> @pinkster, within ubuntu. Should I use the livecd?
[03:28] <mynetdude> IndyGunFreak because this freak needs permissions!
[03:28] <webcamwonder> mynetdude are you using a GUI based file manager>?
[03:28] <mynetdude> IndyGunFreak I can't
[03:28] <KyleK> mv file somewhere/else hehe
[03:28] <craigbass1976> What's the gnome equivilent of explorer?
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: open a terminal gksudo nautilus.. then move the file
[03:28] <DrAkOdE> hello!
[03:29] <KyleK> craigbass1976: ooo ooo nautilus
[03:29] <craigbass1976> ahh nautilus... right
[03:29] <mynetdude> webcamwonder I guess? I'm using places>computer>filesystem>folder
[03:29] <greg78yo> I found a help page that says: "This can be circumvented by creating a boot partition at the beginning of the disk that is completely within the first 1023 cylinders of the harddrive. This partition will contain the kernel."
[03:29] <DrAkOdE> how game it is good now?
[03:29] <pinkster> dlozarie, well the live cd might work better
[03:29] <webcamwonder> mynetdude press alt+f2
[03:29] <greg78yo> That sounds pretty complicated though
[03:29] <DrAkOdE> at chess?
[03:29] <webcamwonder> mynetdude type in gksu nautilus
[03:29] <mynetdude> isn't nautilus for ftp?
[03:29] <KyleK> greg78yo: really?
[03:29] <dlozarie> @pinkster, okay, inserting live cd into drive.
[03:29] <webcamwonder> mynetdude and key in your password, and move to the location of /bin
[03:29] <craigbass1976> mynetdude, yeah, what he said.  I couldn't remember the name of the "explorer" program
[03:29] <pinkster> dlozarie, i mean the gparted livecd...
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: no..
[03:29] <KyleK> just create the first partition smallish
[03:29] <luke-dex> thanks pinkster
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> gksudo nautilus and move the file, thats all there is to it.
[03:29] <webcamwonder> mynetdude nautlius can explore your files and folders on the hdd
[03:29] <pinkster> luke-dex, np
[03:30] <dlozarie> @pinkster, oh! I thought you meant the ubuntu cd! lol. no, I don't have a live cd.
[03:30] <alakdan> KyleK, yeah. didnt find anything useful though since whats described is mirroring the usual ubuntu repository :(
[03:30] <DrAkOdE> what game it's good? from chess? between chess master in winbug?
[03:30]  * craigbass1976 didn't know you could ftp with nautilus...
[03:30] <mynetdude> cool, but why can't I use the built in gui? I'll use nautilus for the sake of this
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: nautilus is the built in GUI
[03:30] <captainrdbeard> nautilus is the built in gui
[03:30] <DrAkOdE> i'm me english is fuck, i'm spain speak
[03:30] <pinkster> dlozarie, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:30] <craigbass1976> mynetdude, I think nautilus IS the GUI you speak of.
[03:30] <greg78yo> KyleK: Swap is my first partition right now.  So I guess I would delete it, create the little boot partition and make that remaining free space back into swap?
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> gksudo is giving your root access, which is allowing yout o move the file
[03:30] <mynetdude> oh... well I am using nautilous then
[03:30] <webcamwonder> as long as you are using GNOME environment :)
[03:30] <Wazz> is there a cd of ubuntu that comes with no gui just the media support amongst other things?
[03:30] <craigbass1976> mynetdude, when you click on the places menu and look at some folders.... I think that's nautilus
[03:30] <DrAkOdE> HELLO!
[03:31] <pinkster> wazz, you mean codecs and stuff?
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> craigbass1976: yes it is
[03:31] <DrAkOdE> what game is good, from chess?
[03:31] <Wazz> yeah
[03:31] <craigbass1976> eh?
[03:31] <mynetdude> alright let me try that
[03:31] <peterpan098> how do i install backtrack3 to hdd?
[03:31] <Mo0oSaH> DrAkOdE: the chess that comes with gnome!
[03:31] <peterpan098> anyone know?
[03:31] <mynetdude> cool and it didn't ask for a pw
[03:31] <pinkster> wazz, well you could install ubuntu server and then install the codecs... but you wouldn't immediately be able to watch or listen to anything
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: probably cuz you were logged in as root vbery recently
[03:32] <unavailable> how do i find out what group a device (such as /dev/net/tun) belongs to??
[03:32] <dlozarie> hey, guys, how many megabytes is 89038848 bytes equal to? lol
[03:32] <Wazz> there is no minimal install?
[03:32] <brad_> I just updated my laptop (running xubuntu) and it got a part way through before wifi dropped.  I installed the packages I could fetch, and restarted cuz it said i needed to... now it seems my computer doesn't recognize my wireless card
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> lol...
[03:32] <pinkster> dlozarie, 890 I think
[03:32] <craigbass1976> dlozarie, divide by 1024 twice
[03:32] <webcamwonder> dlozarie divide by 1024 to get GB
[03:32] <peterpan098> backtrack 3 anyone?
[03:32] <Shubbar> nm-applet does not start network manager
[03:32] <greg78yo> Ok, I made a 64MB ext3 partition
[03:32] <pinkster> dlozarie, 90-ish
[03:32] <brad_> no shubbar
[03:32] <greg78yo> Now how do I move grub onto it?
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> dlozarie: google how many bytes in a megabyte.. and there's tons of conversion tables... most you just enter the amount of bytes, and it pops up the number of mb
[03:32] <Marty81> so, how do I mount my network share? smbfs and cifs don't work here...
[03:33] <KyleK> greg78yo: yea
[03:33] <mynetdude> yay thanks guys
[03:33] <Ashfire908> Despite setting "net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=0" in sysctl.conf, my system after fully booting has net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding set to 1 (On). How do I get it to keep the setting from sysctl? (More of sovling the issue of the thing changing it, not manually running it in /etc/rc.local)
[03:33] <IronJa1> dlozarie: 86952 MB ca. 84.9GB
[03:33] <mynetdude> so why can't I have this same kind of privs as a user instead of root?
[03:33] <DrAkOdE> peterpan098: u need create 2 partition on u hdd, n after install, for install u need goes to main menu, n search install on this menu...
[03:33] <craigbass1976> dlozarie, you could also put a -h in commands to give you human readable output
[03:33] <xTorT> dlozarie, are you talking storage, or throughput?
[03:33] <unavailable> dlozarie google "xxx bytes = megabytes
[03:33] <Shubbar> brad_ , so how do i start network manager
[03:33] <mynetdude> oh well u guys are going fast... too fast for me :(
[03:33] <greg78yo> KyleK: Should the mount point for my new partition say /boot?  Should I give it a boot flag?
[03:33] <dlozarie> @unavailable, tnx! ^_^
[03:33] <mynetdude> thanks :)
[03:33] <webcamwonder> mynetdude You do have the privilages
[03:33] <webcamwonder> mynetdude It was just that you had not passed the privileges to the application you were running
[03:33] <mynetdude> then howcome I couldn't move a file into a folder I created via terminal?
[03:33] <xTorT> throughput is usually base 10 where storage is base 2
[03:34] <webcamwonder> mynetdude make sure you put sudo before that
[03:34] <webcamwonder> mynetdude that would give the rights necessaryu
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: you do have the privliges when you enter the password, this is why you don't get molested on linux like you do on Windows, because not every user automatically has "root" access
[03:34] <DrAkOdE> www.backtrack.blogspot.com is a blog from linux... mmm it's on spanish and english
[03:34] <mynetdude> webcamwonder yeah I had to do sudo to make the folder to begin with
[03:34] <craigbass1976> mynetdude, if you don't have permission to write or read frm either location, it's pfffffffft.  no love in terminal land
[03:35] <Herissy> I want to copy all my files (video/audio/stuff) to my windows drive wile checking for dups how do I do it. over the network... rsync?
[03:35] <DrAkOdE> www.blackxploit.blogspot.com is a blog from linux... mmm it's on spanish and english
[03:35]  * mynetdude hates terminal
[03:35] <webcamwonder> agreed... if you don't have permissions, sudo won't help you
[03:35] <mynetdude> well why not have it ASK for a password in the GUI
[03:35] <wers> how come, when I tried burning using Brasero, it said that my blank cd doesnt have enough space so I can't burn but I managed to burn the same file using nautilus' burning feature?
[03:35] <dlozarie> okay, I'm downloading the .iso file of gparted live cd. I just burn it onto a CD-RW right?
[03:35] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: if you use gksudo it will ask you for a password in GUI
[03:35] <unavailable> dlozarie actually  use ### bytes in megabytes
[03:35] <mynetdude> I'm almost regretting this now
[03:35] <Marty81> how do I mount my network share? smbfs and cifs don't work here... anyone?
[03:35] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: if you'd just listen, you would understand,
[03:35] <greg78yo> I'm going to guess the new boot partition should have the boot flag.  Any objections?
[03:35] <cake> DCC SEND UBUNTUSUCKSUBUNTUSUCKSUBUNTUSUCKSUBUNTUSUCKSUBUNTUSUCKSUBUNTUSUCKS
[03:35] <mynetdude> IndyGunFreak every time I want to do it?
[03:35] <dlozarie> @unavailable, I've figured it out already. it's around 84mb. :D
[03:35] <Shubbar> Can anyone tell me how to start Network Manager? I just removed wicd
[03:35] <unavailable> rofl
[03:36] <pinkster> mynetdude, what are you trying to do?
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: everytime you want to do what?
[03:36] <xTorT> is it possible to just dl ubuntu that is already installed via ftp, and then just installing the bootloader?
[03:36] <pinkster> heh
[03:36] <unavailable> indygunfreak    how do i find out what group a device (such as /dev/net/tun) belongs to??
[03:36] <wers> /dev/sda4 is hd(0, what?)
[03:36] <captainrdbeard> Marty81: what os are you trying to mount on?
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude:  you said you just wanted to move a folder...
[03:36] <mynetdude> well, yeah but if I want to do it later I'll have to run gksu nautilus
[03:36] <greg78yo> I think I'm just going to reinstall Ubuntu.  This is beyond me
[03:36] <Herissy> lol
[03:36] <xTorT> i guess I am asking is it possible to download your installation via ftp and then just install a bootloader to make it work?
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: yes
[03:36]  * mynetdude sighs... forget it... we accomplished something thats all that matters
[03:37] <mynetdude> the point is... I shouldn't have to go to command line to get it to give me something special in GUI
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> unavailable: navigate tot he folder in question.. in this case, /dev/net/tun.. right click, properties, and the permissions tab
[03:37] <unavailable> aah
[03:37] <Marty81> captainrdbeard, it's a Samba share from another Ubuntu PC, with ntfs on that disk...
[03:37] <mynetdude> why not the whole filesystem? :P
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: the point is, thats why you don';t get screwed by hackers, retards, etc under Linux
[03:37] <webcamwonder> mynetdude you only need to gksu nautlius if you are essentially moving "system files"
[03:37] <mynetdude> I agree... which it could still ask for permission auth via GUI rather than fiddle with the terminal
[03:38] <brad_> after an update, my computer cannot see my wireless card, ifconfig -a just shows lo
[03:38] <pinkster> mynetdude, well everything in linux is really based in the command-line... a lot of linux guis are kind of incomplete (which is why people always go to the terminal)
[03:38] <mynetdude> true
[03:38] <mynetdude> ah
[03:38] <captainrdbeard> Marty81: You need to use nfs
[03:39] <Hav0c> hey, anyone use mojo to share itunes libraries? pm me
[03:39] <pinkster> mynetdude, if you are using nautilus as root you could right click on the folder and change the permissions that way
[03:40] <brad_> is there a way to revert back to before you updated your last update?
[03:40] <Marty81> captainrdbeard, same error as before: http://rafb.net/p/OT30gB43.html
[03:40] <Marty81> captainrdbeard: with or without the "smb:"
[03:41] <_2> error message "your session only lasted less than 10 seconds..."   anyone want to trouble shoot that ?
[03:41]  * IndyGunFreak would never brag he had a 10sec session
[03:41] <Marty81> lol
[03:41] <Hav0c> LOL
[03:42]  * _2 would if he was that quick ?
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> lol, certainly wouldn't announce it in a channel w/ 1200 people.. :)
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> Marty81: did you restart right after starting up or something?
[03:42] <webcamwonder> That's what she said? :)
[03:42] <captainrdbeard> Marty81, what command are you using to mount
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> webcamwonder: :)
[03:42] <_2> now anyone want to trouble shoot that issue ?
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> _2: well what brought the error on, did you restart very quickly after booting up, or what?
[03:43] <Mo0oSaH> lolll
[03:43] <Marty81> captainrdbeard: "sudo mount -f nfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/sda /mnt" that's what craigbass1976 told me..
[03:43] <webcamwonder> Marty81 Did you read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280473
[03:43] <ali1> after i use cube it slowly goes back in to the desktop...where can i ajust this because it wan't liek this before
[03:44] <_2> IndyGunFreak i did "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[03:44] <Marty81> not yet
[03:44] <_2> IndyGunFreak running dapper btw
[03:44] <webcamwonder> Marty81 I believe it has the commands that you are searching for
[03:44] <IndyGunFreak> _2: sorry, i really don't know what that means
[03:44] <Chrysalis> do m-audio cards work in ubuntu? the entry for m-audio in the hardware wiki is completely blank
[03:44] <Marty81> captainrdbeard, cool.. thanks, let me look that up..
[03:45] <brad_> what would an integrated wireless card start with lspci?
[03:45] <_2> IndyGunFreak ok.     anyone else want to trouble shoot failing x session ?
[03:45] <captainrdbeard> Marty81, np, sorry i couldn't help much
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> brad_: most likely... it should come up in lspci
[03:45] <Marty81> no worries..
[03:46] <brad_> indygunfreak, yeah i'm trying to see if my comp actually sees the card, but im not sure what i should be looking for
[03:46] <_2> it seems to be doing that for all accounts.
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | brad_ pastebin your lspci and i'll take a look for you
[03:47] <arooni> is there a way of maxmizing a window using a key combo?
[03:47] <_2> maybe if i just anounce that an LTS security update borked my xorg   it will get more response ?
[03:47] <arooni> is there a way of maxmizing a window using a key combo?  (ubuntu hardy) ... running gnome + compiz etc...
[03:47] <KyleK> woot
[03:47] <Naraku> is there an option available to install from ftp?
[03:47] <KyleK> ^_-
[03:47] <Naraku> is it on a miror or anythign
[03:48] <NewbMan> does anyone no how to get a layla20 soundcard to work?
[03:48] <KyleK> whats wrong with http?
[03:48] <jgoo> arooni, that is an excellent question, asl ong as there is a plugin or something, I'd like that too... rat poison functionality in compiz...
[03:48] <KyleK> Naraku: not clear what you want, you want the iso from ftp or you want the software repository with ftp
[03:48] <webcamwonder> arooni you need to check your compiz settings for a direct shortcut... it should be something like ALt+F5-9 keys, I am not sure
[03:48] <LtL> arooni: are you using GDM Gnome? alt+F9 and alt-F10. min/max windows.
[03:49] <mynetdude> alright... how about this
[03:49] <mynetdude> Configuring symbolic links to Java update 2.
[03:49] <mynetdude> cd /usr/bin
[03:49] <mynetdude> sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_02/bin/java java
[03:49] <FloodBot1> mynetdude: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:49] <mynetdude> that command doesn't work
[03:49] <mynetdude> it tells me to use single characters
[03:49] <PunjabDaSher> Hey guys, need some help with a home sharing network
[03:49] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: lol, java is in the freakin repositories, what are you messing w/ the source for?
[03:49] <Naraku> KyleK, I want to download / and then just run grub-install and have a running system
[03:49] <dlozarie> help, how do I resize partitions with gparted? I can't click on the resize button here.
[03:49] <PunjabDaSher> oh and hey whats up mynetdude
[03:49] <mynetdude> IndyGunFreak because frostwire won't work correctly with 1.5 or 1.6 and the repos only gives me 64bit I believe
[03:49] <webcamwonder> !samba | PunjabDaSher
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> dlozarie: they must be unmounted, are they unmounted?
[03:50] <KyleK> oh so debootstrap so hrm
[03:50] <mynetdude> I'm installing the i586 version
[03:50] <QAH> Hello everyone!
[03:50] <jgoo> cheers LtL , I was just checking to see what the short cuts were! asl ong as we are on this - is there a 'restore (unmaximise) shortcut?
[03:50] <KyleK> Naraku: i dont use ftp personally so im clueless
[03:50] <PunjabDaSher> yea i have samba correctly installed
[03:50] <dlozarie> @IndyGunFreak, yes they're unmounted. still unresizeable tho.
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> mynetdude: are you using 64bit ubuntu?
[03:50] <pinkster> hello qah
[03:50] <_2> nobody eeh
[03:50] <mynetdude> IndyGunFreak yes
[03:50] <webcamwonder> PunjabDaSher and did you try "sharing"?
[03:50] <CTho> how do I figure out what nvidia driver i'm currently using for my integrated nforce graphics?