[02:23] <rendero> hello, anybody knows how to make krfb running at startup, i get a "cannot connect to X server" message when i try my script
[02:23] <uhsf> my xinetd fails to start
[02:23] <vox> linuxjoe: you are so amazingly wrong i dont know where to start.
[02:23] <uhsf> bind failed (Permission denied (errno = 13)). service = auth
[02:24] <Xpistos>  Can someone help me mount a folder on a different system to a folder in my home directory on my laptop?
[02:24] <uhsf> bad service attribute: logonfailure [file=/etc/xinetd.d/auth] [line=9]
[02:24] <Xang> Flannel: Thanks.
[02:24] <Dr_willis> supravat,  Huh when you  use sudo it 'caches' the  password for a few min. so you dont have to reenter the sudo users password.   Unless you are having some deeper issue..
[02:24] <lakitu> zsquareplusc, i already had a cut, so i re-cut, losing the first words. yeah, clipboard manager =) thanks, i'll look up glipper
[02:25] <Johnny_5> when i scp from another computer is it ok 2 stop it then start again on a later date or later time? or does it have to be done in one sitting?
[02:25] <linuxjoe> supravat, type CTRL and F2 to get into superuser mode, then type gksu and terminal and optionally folder to go straight to chosen folder, it will ask u for password then m8
[02:26] <zsquareplusc> Johnny_5: you might want to try rsync
[02:26] <Johnny_5> k
[02:26] <linuxjoe> oops that gksu terminal /etc/whateverfolders
[02:26] <supravat> linuxjoe: thanks
[02:26] <linuxjoe> did it work m8?
[02:27] <Johnny_5> zsquareplusc: how does that work?
[02:27] <linuxjoe> damn i missed irc :))
[02:27] <linuxjoe> supravat, did it work m8?
[02:28] <supravat> yup
[02:28] <linuxjoe> cool m8
[02:28] <zsquareplusc> Johnny_5: rsync synchronizes folders/files and only copies the differences. it can also work with ssh so that your data is encrypted in the network
[02:28] <hatemtmtm> hi every body i have ati x1100 and i need it's driver
[02:28] <linuxjoe> amazing wot u can learn in a few days on a new O/S eh :))
[02:28] <Dr_willis> supravat be VERY carefull when running the filemanager as the root user.. You can easially mess up things..
[02:28] <manzur> hello
[02:29] <Johnny_5> zsquareplusc: sweet
[02:29] <linuxjoe> hatemtmtm doesnt ubuntu install a driver that u can use?
[02:29] <CoJaBo> I can't get mdadm to report when a disk in a RAID array fails, any idea why?
[02:29] <hatemtmtm> no
[02:29] <Johnny_5> zsquareplusc: so how does it work? what's the comand?
[02:29] <supravat> Dr_wills: yup when I'm superuser it becomes a resposibility
[02:29] <zsquareplusc> Johnny_5: just be careful that you don't sync into the wrong direction with the mirror/delete option ;-)
[02:30] <hatemtmtm> when i use it ubuntu doesn't work
[02:30] <linuxjoe> other than that go to system menu > admin > hardware testing
[02:30] <zsquareplusc> Johnny_5: i dont use it often. check the man page "man rsync" it has examples
[02:30] <linuxjoe> it might say that there is an official driver that u can download and use m8
[02:30] <rendero> hello, anybody knows how to make krfb running at startup, i get a "cannot connect to X server" message when i try my script
[02:30] <Johnny_5> k
[02:30] <dig> hi, is there any way to restore files association?
[02:30] <Dr_willis> supravat - ive seen peoople set up their root user themes to be very diffefrent colors. (bright reds) so they can tell what file manager is a root one..  Not sure if that still works these days..
[02:30] <pillow> how do you update ubuntu drivers?
[02:31] <zsquareplusc> rendero: start it when the x session starts, not when the computer boots (i.e. not /etc/init.d)
[02:31] <linuxjoe> pillow what drivers u want to update exactly m8
[02:31] <Flannel> Dr_willis: Of course it works
[02:31] <LLMP> is it possible for me to listen to my music from my home computer that uses windows media center from my laptop
[02:31] <pillow> My video card, i just installed ubuntu
[02:31] <pillow> and my screen rez is stuck at 800X600
[02:31] <supravat> Dr_wills: Till now I din't try this
[02:32] <zsquareplusc> Dig: click on a file of that type, open properties and go to the open with tab to select application
[02:32] <rendero> zsquareplusc, ok, i know what to do not, but i do not know what to do
[02:32] <michalski-bj> how do i disable compiz...?
[02:32] <linuxjoe> PILLOW, go to system menu > admin > hardware testing, it might tell u that there are officla drivers available for u to install m8
[02:32] <Dr_willis> supravat,  its one of those things thats proberly best to not be doing. :)
[02:32] <supravat> Dr_wills: I will try it later
[02:32] <pillow> thanks
[02:32] <Randomly> With 8.04, can't get on network anymore. Was working fine all year. "Connection Information" shows I got an IP address in the 192.168 range.  I can ping the router.  I cannot surf to the router, or anywhere else. Email & chat also dead.
[02:32] <supravat> Dr_wills: why
[02:32] <Randomly> Need help. :-(
[02:32] <manzur> do you people think that packagekit is better than add/remove tool?
[02:32] <LLMP> when i am on my school server i want to listen and put music on my mp3 player from my school network
[02:32] <pyrohotdog> michalski-bj: run:   metacity --replace &
[02:32] <LLMP> anyone know hoe
[02:32] <johannes_> it works
[02:32] <LLMP> how
[02:32] <eitreach> Michaelski-bj: You can install fusion-icon via Synaptic, that makes it easy.
[02:33] <manzur> do you people think that packagekit is better than add/remove tool?
[02:33] <LLMP> come on
[02:33] <linuxjoe> i dont think that linux as advertised by ubuntu is cooked enough for wholesale use at the moment, too many bugs in it
[02:33] <Xpistos>  Can someone help me mount a folder on a different system to a folder in my home directory on my laptop?
[02:33] <dig> zsquareplusc: is it possible to reset all files association at once
[02:33] <michalski-bj> pyrohotdog: ok thanks, and how would I re-enable it later?
[02:33] <pyrohotdog> compiz --replace &
[02:33] <michalski-bj> ahhhhh ok thanks
[02:33] <zsquareplusc> rendero: well there is .Xsession or a similar file that is executed when x starts. but KDE (krfb, is from KDE right) might have an option to share the screen too. well the gnome eddition has that in the user preferences
[02:33] <bullgard4> What line do I have to add in rsnapshot.conf in order to backup also the list of currently installed packages? Is "backup  dpkg -l  localhost/" the correct syntax?
[02:34] <linuxjoe> sorry xpistos I dont have a clue m8
[02:34] <zsquareplusc> dig: i dont know how
[02:34] <LLMP> hello
[02:34] <ralph> can anyone help me with a problem with my ubuntu 8.10 install
[02:34] <linuxjoe> hi m8
[02:34] <zsquareplusc> bullgard4: dpgk --get-selections
[02:34] <linuxjoe> ralph, u just ask your question m8, no need to ask if u can ask ;)
[02:34] <Randomly> Ralph, go ahead
[02:34] <JarG0n> how do I determine what format a device is?
[02:34] <tripitakit> ralph: what is the problem
[02:35] <linuxjoe> how do u mean format?
[02:35] <pyrohotdog> michalski-bj: run:   I wrote aliases in my .bashrc, bling and nobling. ;)
[02:35] <ralph> i just installed 8.10,i got too the login window and signed in fine.after that the screen went black and the cursor stayed on.
[02:35] <JarG0n> linuxjoe> file format
[02:35] <pyrohotdog> oops, no run.
[02:35] <LLMP> hello anyone could help
[02:35] <linuxjoe> most file formats usually have an extension, if it doesn't, i think its either a text file, or a config file m8
[02:35] <tripitakit> !any | LLMP
[02:36] <tripitakit> LLMP ask you question
[02:36] <linuxjoe> am i right folks?
[02:36] <JarG0n> linuxjoe> I have a partition, but I think it's formatted FAT, but it needs to be ext3.
[02:36] <linuxjoe> er ralph, have u rebooted again m8?
[02:36] <LLMP> i want to download or listen to my music from my laptop and my music is on my desktop
[02:36] <pillow> linuxjoe, It didnt help
[02:36] <tripitakit> linuxjoe: also a binary ..
[02:36] <LLMP> i want to listen to my music from my desktop
[02:36] <LLMP> that uses windows media center
[02:36] <linuxjoe> ah yes, I forgot binary, thanks m8 ;)
[02:36] <tripitakit> LLMP use rithmnbox
[02:37] <linuxjoe> LLMP, which ubuntu r u using m8?
[02:37] <LLMP> and i do not need a server right
[02:37] <LLMP> 8.04
[02:37] <LLMP> hardy
[02:37] <zsquareplusc> LLMP: no, it can also play files from your disk
[02:38] <linuxjoe> if u have mp3 files on another hard drive and that hard drive is on a windows workgroup (usually MSHOME) just click on NETWORK in PLACES and u should be able to sssee your music files and play em too ;)
[02:38] <linuxjoe> does that help any LLMP?
[02:38] <LLMP> not really
[02:38] <linuxjoe> is your linux pc networked to your windows pc???????????
[02:39] <tripitakit> LLMP what is not clear to you?
[02:39] <croddy> i'm shopping for a webcam to use with my 8.10 system. the list at ubuntuhcl.org is pretty limited; does anyone know where i might find a more extensive resource for finding compatible cams?
[02:39] <ubuntu> ll
[02:39] <damian__> how can i set up mplayer to play dvds by default?
[02:40] <Pici> croddy: This has a pretty extensive list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:41] <croddy> Pici, thank you very much
[02:41] <pyrohotdog> Does aaannnnyyone know how to make Rhythmbox recognize a blank that's already inserted?
[02:41] <buccdaddy> :-X
[02:41] <pillow> linuxjoe: fixed it, i just needed to install the driver it already had handy. But you pushed me in the right direction thanks
[02:41] <george__> kalhmera
[02:42] <damian__> how can i set up mplayer to play dvds by default?
[02:43] <jrib> damian__: edit -> prefs -> media in nautilus
[02:43] <Tetracomm> Dkpg is working because of a libsigc++ error, help?: http://pastebin.com/d235be2ef
[02:43] <lovre>  i have a problem with firefox flash straming video, the sound is not synchronised with the video...
[02:43] <jrib> Tetracomm: still?  Where did we leave off?  Didn't I ask you some questions?
[02:43] <pillow> linuxjoe: btw, i think its really cool that there are people like you. With windows its nearly impossible to get help on anything directly
[02:44] <damian__> how do i get nautilus
[02:44] <lovre> damian__: ?
[02:45] <jrib> damian__: nautilus is the name of the file browesr
[02:45] <tommck> I have searched for hours to try and find an answer to this problem.  When I try to start xorg in any way (failsafe mode or whatever), I get the "your session lasted less than 10 seconds" error over and over..
[02:45] <zsquareplusc> damian__: that is the file browser. like for placed->home
[02:45] <Johnny_5> zsquareplusc: so with rsync i should b able to quick n the middle of a transfer then pick back up where i left off? even after i close the window??
[02:45] <linuxjoe> welcome pillow m8, glad to have been able to help m8
[02:46] <EJ> tommck: how are you trying to start xorg ? what command ?
[02:46] <Tetracomm> jrib: We didn't fix it, you didn't reply to my second post.
[02:46] <zsquareplusc> Johnny_5: yes. just repeat the same command later.
[02:46] <tommck> EJ - it's GDM by default, but I've tried startx too
[02:46] <jrib> Tetracomm: what did you say?
[02:46] <Johnny_5> k
[02:46] <tommck> oh, and it's ubuntu 7.10
[02:46] <seronis> !samba
[02:46] <Tetracomm> jrib: I had to restart, I don't know. :(
[02:46] <zsquareplusc> Johnny_5: well. to be exact. when you abort it will need to build up the file list again when you restart
[02:46] <EJ> tommck: have you been able to get X to start at all with any gui ?
[02:47] <Tetracomm> But I can't install nor remove any packages, because of that.
[02:47] <bullgard4> zsquareplusc: Your answer is false. '~$ sudo rsnapshot hourly' now obtains: "Errors were found in /etc/rsnapshot.conf, rsnapshot cannot continue. If you think an entry looks right, make sure you don't have spaces." But I checked that tabs and spaces are all right in the line that I added.
[02:47] <jrib> Tetracomm: right.  Why are you installing things manually with dpkg?
[02:47] <tommck> EJ - when it gives me the error, it's graphical, and the login is graphical, but I can't get a window manager in any way
[02:47] <Tetracomm> jrib: I'm not.
[02:47] <jrib> Tetracomm: you were before.  Why?
[02:47] <tommck> EJ - I have a .xsession-errors file, but it's not too informative
[02:47] <Tetracomm> jrib: Someone said to use dpkg -i something.
[02:47] <JonathanEllis> Hi, Can menu.lst work with root entries using volume labels instead of hd(x,y)? For example [root LABEL=ubuntu8-04]?
[02:48] <zsquareplusc> bullgard4: hm. what was the topic again?
[02:48] <Tetracomm> jrib: But I had that problem from before I used dpkg.
[02:48] <pillow> linuxjoe: got to love Ubuntu its easy to use, free, and works better than windows could dream there OS could.
[02:48] <jrib> Tetracomm: yes, but *why*?  What is your actual issue?
[02:48] <bullgard4> zsquareplusc:   What line do I have to add in rsnapshot.conf in order to backup also the list of currently installed packages? Is "backup  dpkg -l  localhost/" the correct syntax?
[02:48] <Tetracomm> jrib: The pastebin link I sent you tells you.
[02:48] <EJ> tommck: have you gone thru your xorg.conf ?
[02:48] <jrib> Tetracomm: pastebin: apt-cache policy libsigc++; dpkg -S /usr/lib/libsigc-1.2.so.5
[02:48] <Dr_willis> JonathanEllis,   I think it can.. You could just duplicate an entry that is working , and try  the LABEL method to be sure.. I know fstab can.
[02:49] <linuxjoe> it works, but it still needs a lot of work to be as friendly as windows
[02:49] <tommck> EJ, yeah, it looks fine to me.
[02:49]  * Dr_willis dosent find windows very friendly at times.
[02:49] <linuxjoe> if u dont mind getting yer dabs dirty then it is wasy cooler, kinda reminds me of me old amiga :))
[02:49] <tommck> EJ - i even used Envy to reinstall the NVidia drivers
[02:49] <zsquareplusc> bullgard4: ah. that one. well dpkg --get-selections prints to stdout you have to redirect the output like dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt  later you could then use --get-selections to import the list again
[02:49] <linuxjoe> say bindoze is turning into spyware wiv all that microcrpa software
[02:49] <tommck> EJ - http://pastebin.ca/1257382 (xsession-errors)
[02:50] <EJ> tommck: hang on just a sec k ... nature calls .
[02:50] <linuxjoe> er how does the say command work again, I forgot all the irc commands :((
[02:50] <pyrohotdog> Blanks show up on my desktop, but rhythmbox still asks for a blank. http://pastebin.com/d3cda9084
[02:50] <Qebafhzn> a little question: At the partition screen in part 4/7 in the live cd installer, and the "after" bar says "100% Ubuntu" or something (I forget,) does that mean it's going to blank the entire disk to make its partition?
[02:51] <Tetracomm> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d6360c78e
[02:51] <bullgard4> zsquareplusc: What do you mean by "later"? It is a config file. There is no "later".
[02:51] <linuxjoe> pyrohotdog, I think there is a problem in the latest ubuntu with regard to mounting and using cd's/dvd's
[02:51] <jrib> Tetracomm: as well as: apt-cache policy libsigc++-1.2
[02:51] <pyrohotdog> linuxjoe: Anyone known solutions? I've been losing hair over this issue.
[02:52] <zsquareplusc> bullgard4: you backup, i mena later when you're going to use the backed up data to restore your machine in case of problems
[02:52] <Tetracomm> jrib: W: Unable to locate package libsigc++-1.2
[02:52] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: yes 100% is wiping the disk to make it all for ubuntu
[02:52] <jrib> Tetracomm: sorry, libsigc++-1.2-5c2
[02:52] <danbhfive> pyrohotdog: are you trying to burn a disk?  try k3b, see if it gives the same errors.
[02:53] <Tetracomm> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d4cd49e7f
[02:53] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: How do I set it so that I can have both NTFS and XFS3 on the computer without blanking the entire disc>
[02:53] <Qebafhzn> ?
[02:53] <bullgard4> zsquareplusc: The procedure which you suggest is a procedure of hand-work. rsnapshot is there to do backup automatically. This is a difference. I'd like to backup this one file too but automaticall, not as an additional hand-work.
[02:53] <bullgard4> automatically
[02:53] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: use manual partition not automatic one
[02:54] <jrib> Tetracomm: k, so now where does libsigc++ come from?  It's not in intrepid's repositories.  Is this an upgrade or fresh install?
[02:54] <Tetracomm> :(
[02:54] <Tetracomm> I think I installed it from a .deb package.
[02:54] <Tetracomm> jrib
[02:54] <jrib> Tetracomm: remove it using dpkg
[02:54] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: I clocked on the "Manual" radio button, but I don't think it did anything. I exited the installer; this is the computer I want to run linux on.
[02:54] <Tetracomm> How?
[02:54] <Qebafhzn> click*
[02:54] <jrib> Tetracomm: dpkg -r PACKAGE
[02:54] <[g2]> is there a way to disable SMP via the command line in Grub on Ibex ?
[02:54] <zsquareplusc> bullgard4: it will get the list of packages automatically. backing up is usually not the problem. restoring is (if its not just a 1:1 copy..)
[02:55] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: nothing has been done already, u'd follow manual partitioning
[02:55] <linuxjoe> pyrohotdog, I doint know anyone who has found a solution to this problem yet m8
[02:55] <Tetracomm> jrib: Not installed.
[02:55] <linuxjoe> I came here myself to see if I could find some answers
[02:55] <[g2]> that would be on -generic and the kernel command line :)
[02:55] <jrib> Tetracomm: what did you type?
[02:55] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: is there alrready a ntfs partition with windows intsalled on?
[02:55] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: Yes.
[02:56] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: and you want to keep it, right?
[02:56] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: This is mostly an expirimental install.
[02:56] <Qebafhzn> Yes.
[02:56] <bullgard4> zsquareplusc: What do you mean by "it"? rsnapshot will not get the list of packages automatically. It throws an error message.
[02:56] <zsquareplusc> [g2]: kernel command line: nosmp
[02:56] <Tetracomm> jrib: nicholas@nicholas-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -r libsigc++-1.2-5c2
[02:56] <linuxjoe> k all, I have to go now, btu will hopefully see u all on tuesday if all goes well, cya all and have fun ;)
[02:56] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: so go with manual partitioning
[02:56] <jrib> Tetracomm: no, you want to get rid of the deb you installed: libsigc++
[02:56] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: Do I just click on the manual radio button and the next page will have partitioning options?
[02:56] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: then resize the Ntfs one
[02:57] <Qebafhzn> In the live installer?
[02:57] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: yes, net page will come a partitiong program (gparted)
[02:57] <jlaroche> hello everyone. I am having trouble getting my 7.1 speakers to work in ubuntu. i've tried rythmbox, songbird, Listen, Exaile
[02:57] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: Thanks!
[02:57] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: u'll resize the ntfs
[02:57] <Tetracomm> jrib: libsigc++ removed.
[02:57] <Tetracomm> dpkg -r libsigc++.
[02:57] <jrib> Tetracomm: now try your apt-get install -f again
[02:57] <bullgard4> !sound jlaroche
[02:58] <jlaroche> i have a soundblaster audigy 4
[02:58] <H4cKL0rD_> is anyone here
hello
[02:58] <jlaroche> !sound
[02:58] <zsquareplusc> bullgard4: sorry i dont know exactly what rsnapshot solves for you. you were plaing around with dpkg -l and i said dpkg --get-selections may be better in that case. thats all. both commands list packages to stdout. but -l is more for humans than machines
[02:58] <tripitakit> !anyone
[02:58] <Tetracomm> *prays and presses enter*
[02:58] <JonathanEllis> Dr_willis: Unfortunately none of my entries are working as I have repartitioned the disc so none of the partition ids (eg /dev/sdax) are as they were when the system was installed. I have added volume labels to all the partitions to make it easier to identify the correct ones. You are right it does work in fstab. Unfortunately I am getting grub error 11 on boot. I really dont want to go back to numbers unless its absolutely necessary. Perhaps I w
[02:58] <jlaroche> can anyone help with 7.1 sound in ubuntu
[02:58] <zsquareplusc> Tetracomm: sounds like you dd to sda? ;-)
[02:59] <bullgard4> zsquareplusc: I agree. Thank you for your effort.
[02:59] <Tetracomm> zsquareplusc: What?
[02:59] <Dr_willis> JonathanD,  i seem to recall seeing some disrto that used LABEL. but i dont rember where/who
[02:59] <EJ> tommck: is your x server running right now ?
[02:59] <tommck> EJ - which process?
[03:00] <bneitsch> gtkpod? Does anyone use this program?
[03:00] <zsquareplusc> Tetracomm: well if you pray before running a command. i ususally do this when dd'ing to a /dev/sdX for exaple ;-)
[03:00] <tripitakit> bneitsch: i do
[03:00] <bneitsch> if I modify my ipod with it and then plug it into my Mac also will it still work the same?
[03:00] <EJ> well in the pastebin i am reading it looks like X Server is already running when it tries to initalize xfce4
[03:00] <Tetracomm> zsquareplusc: Oh, lol. :)
[03:00] <tripitakit> bneitsch: i also will try hipo in the next future
[03:00] <EJ> tommck: well in the pastebin i am reading it looks like X Server is already running when it tries to initalize xfce4
[03:00] <jlaroche> Can anyone help with 7.1 speakers in Ubuntu?
[03:00] <tommck> EJ - yeah, but what would the name of the executable be?
[03:01] <bneitsch> hipo I will try that also.  I just have my ipod all set the way I like it and started using ubuntu
[03:01] <bneitsch> don't wanna kill my perfect setup lol
[03:01] <EJ> tommck: hmmm not sure ... what do you have when you run sudo ps x ?
[03:01] <tripitakit> bneitsch: i donwt have a mac.. but i think yes it would
[03:01] <Tetracomm> jrib: Thank you, fixed. :)
[03:01] <jrib> Tetracomm: no problem
[03:01] <Louth> Hello folks
[03:02] <luddite> hi
[03:02] <ReleaseX> how can i see which version of a package is installed through the terminal
[03:02] <Louth> How is everyone?
[03:02] <bneitsch> thank you I will try gkpod then
[03:02] <tripitakit> bneitsch: but i have to say i had a win formatted ipod...
[03:02] <Pedrolito> If I log out and then log back in, the screen get orange/brown with the mouse cursor showing, but the system is completely unresponsive apart from the mouse cursor responding to the mouse, I have to do a hard reboot every time. Does anyone know why this happens?
[03:02] <Tetracomm> I'm very grateful.
[03:02] <Tetracomm> :)
[03:02] <luddite> bad
[03:02] <luddite> we are all bad
[03:02] <bneitsch> "nervous" but life goes no.
[03:02] <tommck> EJ - http://pastebin.ca/1257387
[03:02] <zsquareplusc> luddite: no, thin is not #windows
[03:02] <tripitakit> bneitsch: i guess i have a mac formatted one, hope gtkpod will read it :P
[03:02] <bneitsch> well I use it on win and os x itunes is great, but I like ubuntu.
[03:03] <raven_> i am bout to reinstall ubuntu on my laptop
[03:03] <raven_> and i was thinking about trying the 64bit
[03:03] <raven_> is there any reason to, or not to, consider that
[03:03] <tripitakit> bneitsch: so u'll have no problems
[03:03] <raven_> is anything incompat with 64bit?
[03:03] <luddite> zsquareplusc : thank god -  is there even a #windows?
[03:03] <raven_> yes, there is
[03:04] <raven_> ##windows
[03:04] <zsquareplusc> raven_: its easier to get support for 32 bits and there a re a few applications that are easier to get for 32 bits. appart from that 64 bits run fine here.
[03:04] <raven_> u can compile a 32bit app on 64bit lin
[03:04] <raven_> right
[03:04] <raven_> without issue
[03:04] <raven_> ?
[03:04] <tripitakit> raven_: 64 runs fine on my amd too, but i agree, less support and less apps
[03:04] <FloodBot2> raven_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:04] <raven_> so ubuntu 64 has no 32bit compat?
[03:05] <raven_> if that's the case then #%@$ it :p
[03:05] <zsquareplusc> raven_: hm. that already counts as cross compiling i think
[03:05] <quagga> in my experience, the only things missed on 64-bit is the proprietary flash player
[03:05] <Axlbeta> please site in spanish.. ?  which is
[03:05] <Xang> Axlbeta: ubuntu-es
[03:05] <tripitakit> quagga: i got some java issues too
[03:05] <Axlbeta> thanks.. Xang
[03:05] <raven_> ive been using OSX for the past week
[03:05] <raven_> has been a very positive experience, but i gained a new appreciation for linux
[03:05] <Xang> Axlbeta: No problem. :)
[03:06] <raven_> i had no idea how much better it was at wine and X
[03:06] <zsquareplusc> raven_: yes, ubuntu has several 32 compatibulity libs for the 64 bit system. it is possible to install 32 bit apps. its just not as easy as directly running a 32 bit system
[03:06] <tripitakit> raven_: i'm gettin deadmoo to try it in a vbox :P
[03:06] <raven_> deadmoo is the 64bit edition, yes?
[03:06] <raven_> tell me how that goes
[03:06] <tripitakit> raven_: well no
[03:06] <juancarlospaco> ubuntu: linux for smart beings
[03:06] <juancarlospaco> hi
[03:06] <raven_> hi
[03:06] <jlaroche> I am having trouble getting my 7.1 speakers to work in Ubuntu. I am running version 8.10 64bit and I have a Soundblaster Audigy 4. I've tried Rythmbox, Songbird and Listen Music Player. I dual-boot between Ubuntu and XP and my speakers work just fine in XP (after installing CCCP).
[03:08] <luddite> i cant "sudo modprobe p4_clockmod" it returns this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71675/
[03:08] <Dr_willis> jlaroche,  what are you playing that has 7.1 surround sound?   In the past when listing to stero mp3's i could mess with the alsa-mixer controlls and mirror  the front to the rear.. or some players had extensions/plugins that would convert  stero to  4.1 or higher  output
[03:08] <tripitakit> raven_: sorry for that (deadmoo is Os86X a patched leopard :P)
[03:08] <tripitakit> raven_: u'd try intrepid amd64 if you look for 64bit
[03:08] <zsquareplusc> jlaroche: i have no clue, but i saw seveal ALSA devices on my system, one called 7.1 one 6.1 etc. maybe you need to set the player to use one of these
[03:08] <raven_> is there a way (other than rolling your own script, which i imagine ill have to do) to make it so that when u click on a disk image (*.img, *.iso, etc) it will mount it automatically and create a desktop icon for it
[03:08] <raven_> ala OSX
[03:09] <EJ> tommck: well i dont see the process running
[03:09] <tripitakit> raven_: there is gmountiso
[03:09] <tommck> EJ - me neither :(
[03:09] <zsquareplusc> raven_: if oyu click on isos the archive manager shows its contents. you really want to mount it?
[03:09] <raven_> yes.
[03:09] <zsquareplusc> ok :-)
[03:09] <MasterShrek> writing your own script would not be hard...
[03:10] <raven_> i know, which is why im not opposed to doing it
[03:10] <raven_> i was just wondering if there was something in place
[03:10] <EJ> go to /usr/X11R6/bin
[03:10] <EJ> tommck: go to /usr/X11R6/bin
[03:10]  * raven_ sighs
[03:10] <tommck> EJ - yeah?
[03:10] <raven_> i just realized OSX doesnt see my dvd drive, so no burning ubuntu disk right now..
[03:10] <EJ> tommck: run ./Xorg
[03:10] <tripitakit> raven_: there is a fine app gmount.iso (or a similar name)
[03:10] <EJ> tell me what happens if anything
[03:10]  * raven_ gets his ubuntu jump drive
[03:11] <raven_> tripitakit, looks like that's just a GUI app for mount
[03:11] <tommck> ok.. just a sec...
[03:11] <jlaroche> dr_willis: I am playing mp3 files, flac files, etc. They all play fine in 7.1 under windows... I don't understand why this has to be such an issue in Ubuntu...
[03:11] <PeskyJ> raven_: you could make a bootable USB memory stick, that's fun
[03:11] <tripitakit> raven_: yes it is a gui for a loopback mount
[03:11] <raven_> already made 5 or so, peskyj
[03:11] <ReleaseX> how can i see which version of a package is installed through the terminal
[03:11] <raven_> i am booting one now
[03:11] <juancarlospaco> jlaroche, windows out of the box dont play that formats
[03:11] <Dr_willis> jlaroche,  windows drivers are fakeing the 7.1 extra channels.. while by default ubuntu  is not.. is the 'core' of the issue.
[03:11] <zsquareplusc> ah the usb boot thingy.. if it would only work here too...
[03:12] <ardchoille> ReleaseX: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[03:12] <juancarlospaco> jlaroche, just intall codecs like a window box
[03:12] <zsquareplusc> all the USB stics i wrote did not boot correctly
[03:12] <ralpho> My cmos dont see usb :(
[03:12] <PeskyJ> ReleaseX: apt-cache policy <package>
[03:12] <tommck> EJ - fatal error - cannot move old log file... should I "sudo" it?
[03:12] <ReleaseX> ardchoille, awesome thank you
[03:12] <EJ> tommck: yeah
[03:12] <ardchoille> yw :)
[03:12] <CoJaBo> I can't get mdadm to report when a disk in a RAID array fails, what do I need to get it to work?
[03:12] <ReleaseX> peskyj, ditto
[03:12] <tripitakit> zsquareplusc: maybe is the usb stick, try a differnet one
[03:12] <tommck> got a basic X desktop w/ nothing on it
[03:12] <tommck> EJ - so, basic X works
[03:13] <bullgard4> What line do I have to add in rsnapshot.conf in order to backup also the list of currently installed packages? "backup  dpkg -l  localhost/" is not the correct syntax.
[03:13] <zsquareplusc> tripitakit: i saw a bug in launchpad i'm not the only one. and i used the same stick with a image of the mobile edition (written with dd) that boots well (same stick, same pc)
[03:13] <jlaroche> juancalospaco - sure... but CCCP does the job with minimum fuss... That is why I am in here asking how to do this in Ubuntu. I have already scoured google, but no luck...
[03:14] <tripitakit> zsquareplusc: i see.
[03:14] <EJ> tommck: ok .... that is most likley your xfce4 desktop ... (not totally sure) but i think it is ... are you familiar with xfce4 and wahat it looks like
[03:14] <jlaroche> What codecs do I need to get
[03:14] <shl-x> hello,guys
[03:14] <tommck> EJ - uhh.. not really sure..
[03:14] <EJ> tommck: its been a looooooong time since i used xfce4 gui
[03:15] <tommck> EJ - frankly, I don't care which desktop I use, I just want to be able to run mythtv on this :)
[03:15] <EJ> tommck: sounds like we need to switch this over to use gnome
[03:15] <juancarlospaco> jlaroche, all if you like
[03:15] <PeskyJ> there's only one thing left preventing me from deleting windows.. and that's printing stuff to the laser printer - as soon as I get that sorted  windows is gone :)
[03:15] <tommck> EJ - I tried gnome sessions and gnome failsafe - no dice
[03:15] <EJ> tommck: just a sec and i will see if i can remember how to do that
[03:15] <juancarlospaco> jlaroche, the package:   ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:15] <yooga> asas
[03:15] <yooga> oi
[03:15] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: whats the issue with printing?
[03:15] <yooga> smgh plez
[03:16] <juancarlospaco> jlaroche, all the Medibuntu packages
[03:16] <Dr_willis> jlaroche,  you may want to check out  some  forum threads like --> http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?p=2251026    they mention multi channel sound tweaks in ubuntu .
[03:16] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: I posted about it here: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/forum/read.php?17,1561
[03:16] <juancarlospaco> jlaroche, all codecs in one place, medibuntu's Repo
[03:16] <jlaroche> juancalospaco - 'all' of what exactly. Maybe i missed an earlier msg where you suggested a specific codec or where to get it (them)
[03:16] <Kanster> I need help.
[03:16] <luddite> Peskyj: keep a windows boot. you never know when ubuntu will not be able to do something for you
[03:16] <jlaroche> thanks... go it now
[03:16] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: Is there a good graphical guide for this?
[03:16] <tripitakit> Kanster: make your question
[03:16] <luddite> i cant "sudo modprobe p4_clockmod" it returns this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71675/
[03:17] <Qebafhzn> It turned me to a page where aparrantly you can't select the size of the partition.
[03:17] <juancarlospaco> jlaroche, i dont konow, install all, in one or other moment you need it
[03:17] <jlaroche> thanks Dr_willis
[03:17] <MiladKhajavi> I need a assembler IDE. is there any assembler IDE for linux?
[03:17] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: for what, sorry?
[03:17] <damian__> how do play movies using mplayer? i load he dvd , try opening using the mplayer bu it wont detect it, i chose for it to play all fils
[03:17] <juancarlospaco> jlaroche, google--->medibuntu--->codecs
[03:17] <juancarlospaco> :)
[03:17] <Dr_willis> jlaroche,  checking it out now with my 4.1 speakers.. :) try the command           speaker-test -l1 -c6 -twav
[03:17] <PeskyJ> luddite: I can't think of anything else that we use windows for except stuff we've got working in ubuntu already (and the printing)
[03:18] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: it's 4.17 am here, pls aplogize my loose memory
[03:18] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: On the 5th page, it just showed me a page of all the disks. I selected "Edit Partition," but it didn't let me change the size of it.
[03:18] <Gnea> !css | damian__
[03:18] <bullgard4> MiladKhajavi: An assembler IDE is processor specific and not generically available for all Linux.
[03:18] <Dr_willis> jlaroche,  Heh - that test command shows i have some of my speakers.. err.. backwards. :P
[03:18] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: are u in the live install?
[03:18] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: no
[03:18] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: if its a windows network printer, smb:///server/printername is the URL
[03:18] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: I'm in windows
[03:18] <Kanster> In Mozilla Firefox, the program like java or something isn't working. I think it's javascript but I'm allowing it to run and still nothing. What do I do? It worked before.
[03:18] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: ?
[03:19] <Gnea> damaltor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs specifically
[03:19] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: I'm using Pidgin for Windows
[03:19] <merlin> Hi, i would like to know if pingflood without Dos tentation is illegal  (i'am a student, just want to try on a private server over web)
[03:19] <Gnea> oops
[03:19] <MiladKhajavi> bullgard4: now what should I do?
[03:19] <Gnea> damaltor: sorry, wrong person
[03:19] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: i dont understand what are you doin and where, pls explane
[03:19] <juancarlospaco> ping is very illegal
[03:19] <jlaroche> Dr_willis - I ran the test and it plays everything in my front left, front right and front center speakers (including rear left and rear right)
[03:19] <juancarlospaco> no im just kidding
[03:20] <Kanster> tripitakit: In Mozilla Firefox, the program like java or something isn't working. I think it's javascript but I'm allowing it to run and still nothing. What do I do? It worked before.
[03:20] <merlin> i know :p
[03:20] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: I'm on an IRC client on Windows, and I want to install Ubuntu alongside Windows without deleting it
[03:20] <juancarlospaco> i think not
[03:20] <pyrohotdog> Can anyone make sense of this: http://pastebin.com/d3cda9084
[03:20] <tripitakit> Kanster: have installed java?
[03:20] <merlin> juancarlospaco: if i ping 1000 times google in 1 min, is illegal ?
[03:20] <bullgard4> MiladKhajavi: First determine your processor type. Then Google for 'IDE', 'Ubuntu', <your processor type>
[03:20] <Kanster> tripitakit: yes
[03:20] <zsquareplusc> Kanster: java and javascript are not the same thing. for java you need to install the java plugin separately in synaptics
[03:21] <juancarlospaco> anyone can disable ICMP packets on the server, and ping go, but dont back again
[03:21] <Gnea> pyrohotdog: your hard drive has problems
[03:21] <zsquareplusc> merlin: that sounds like the admins there would see it as attack..
[03:21] <Kanster> zsquareplusc: Then how do I get javascript?
[03:21] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: no, it's a network printer.
[03:21] <Arcticfox> hey I'm trying to download limewire but when i hit install package it says only one software management tool can be run at a time but I;'m not running any others
[03:21] <juancarlospaco> i think ping is not illegal, a lot of apps ping servers all time is running
[03:22] <Gnea> juancarlospaco: who are you talking to?
[03:22] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: u have to run the live cd
[03:22] <zsquareplusc> Kanster: that is already built into the browser. if you enabled that in the options (under security) it should work ( unless you installed an extension like noscript)
[03:22] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: the go with install
[03:22] <ReleaseX> how can i see a listing of packages ready to be upgraded through terminal
[03:22] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: I have. I used the live CD, but I quit the installer midway and ordered a restart
[03:23] <merlin> zsquareplusc: ok
[03:23] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: when it comes to the resizing the ntfs partition have to be unmounted
[03:23] <damian__> my totem movie player wont play dvds. whats the problem?
[03:23] <juancarlospaco> hay people, here in usa or rest of the planet, you have working "Ares" with conected status???
[03:23] <juancarlospaco> here dont work
[03:23] <Kanster> zsquareplusc: Wait. I think I just figured out the problem. I have a firewall security.
[03:23] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: Huh> Can I see a graphical guide for this?
[03:23] <Qebafhzn> Huh?*
[03:23] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: probably it was mounted and u cannot resize it
[03:23] <PeskyJ> ReleaseX: man apt-get - then do apt-get upgrade adding the option to just list stuff and not actually do work
[03:23] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: Mounted?
[03:23] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: "network printer" is generic. as you found out there are several protocols in use like smb, lpr and socket. i have to use socket for the HP laser printer (i think they call it jet direct)
[03:24] <juancarlospaco> no one use Ares ?
[03:24] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: the live cd mounts your ntfs partitions
[03:24] <juancarlospaco> :(
[03:24] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: So I can't resize them?
[03:24] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: so when u go with install, in the gparted, u have to unmount it
[03:24] <brujo> hey anybody know good tutorial for ioctl?
[03:24] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: So, I unmount it, then I resize it?
[03:25] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: after having unmounted u can resize
[03:25] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: yeah.. I don't know the exact protocol, I just know that foo2zjs is the driver that implements the protocol for my printer... I just can't figure out how CUPS decides which foo* driver to use, must be based on the socket:// or lpd:// prefix but I don't know what to set it to to make it use foo2zjs
[03:25] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: What does mounting do?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> jlaroche,   i was doing all these tests to get my 5.1 going.. and realized that this machine dosent have the 5.1 sound card.. :) doh! ;)
[03:25] <Dr_willis> well night all...
[03:25] <tommck_> EJ - I've been thinking about trying to kill all of X and try to reinstall it or something
[03:25] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: in linux a partition have to be mounted to be accesible
[03:26] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: okay then...
[03:26] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: so does the live cd with you ntfs  when it boot up
[03:26] <brujo> any ioctl to send keystrokes?
[03:26] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: ?
[03:26] <Pelo> !launchpad
[03:26] <EJ> tommck: that may work ... if you do that try running x with the default vid card drivers and see if it will at least start up for you
[03:26] <EJ> tommck: if it does then you can go about installing the drivers for your vid card at that point
[03:26] <tommck_> EJ - yeah, I think the next step is a braindead "vesa" video mode X setup, I guess
[03:26] <brujo> ioctl(console,TIOCSTI,key) ????
[03:27] <brujo> is correct?
[03:27] <tommck_> EJ - maybe I'll do something low-tech like a fluxbox wm
[03:27] <CoJaBo> I can't get mdadm to report when a disk in a RAID array fails, what do I need to get it to work?
[03:27] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: What did you say?
[03:27] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: I mean that when you run the installer and the partitioning you have to unmount the partition yu want to resize, within the partitionin program, with a menu entry or a right click
[03:27] <EJ> tommck: last time i had to deal with this was about 8 years ago ... and it seems that commands have changed a bit
[03:28] <tommck_> EJ - yeah.. no big deal.. I'm going to have to get drastic on myself, I think..
[03:28] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: Okay, so if I want 35 GB for Ubuntu, I just remove 35 GB from NTFS and partition the empty space to Ubuntu?
[03:28] <tommck_> EJ - might even contemplate a complete reinstall
[03:28] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: but if u are just trying ubuntu you can also run wubi from the cd using windoes
[03:28] <EJ> tommck: it dosent set up propely on a fresh install ?
[03:28] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: Real Linux >>> Wubi Linux
[03:28] <tommck_> EJ - haven't tried that yet - this is my mythtv backend.. didn't want to take it out for too long
[03:28] <EJ> tommck: did you install server and then add X ?
[03:28] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: hm, the file name sounds like it is a filter. doesn't it come with an install or readme? one would thing you are not the 1st user :-)
[03:28] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: correct, you free those 35 GB form the ntfs
[03:28] <lp59> Salut
[03:29] <tommck_> EJ - no, started with Desktop install
[03:29] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: ok
[03:29] <owen1> my right+alt is not working.
[03:29] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: I'll try again
[03:29] <owen1> any clue?
[03:29] <rafarubert> \c irc.freenode.net
[03:29] <Out_Cold> can someone help me figure out how to mount a usb drive? it previously auto mounted in 8.04 and now in 8.10
[03:29] <sunapi386> Out_Cold; mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
[03:29] <seyfarth> How does Canonical make a profit?
[03:29] <EJ> tommck: so you have had X running on this before ?
[03:29] <sunapi386> Out_Cold; where /dev/sdb1 is your usb device, and /mnt/sdb1 is the folder you want to mount on
[03:30] <tripitakit> seyfarth: with server edition
[03:30] <Pelo> seyfarth, selling support
[03:30] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: I followed the instructions on foo2zjs.rkkda.com - I think you're right, it's a filter/converter but I don't know how CUPS selects it to be used, it doesn't seem to have a "which driver?" option anywhere
[03:30] <appserver> how to set ubuntu..to start in init 3?
[03:30] <tommck_> EJ - for about a year..  not sure what broke it... I, unfortunately made a few changes that I didn't keep track of..
[03:30] <appserver> where to change it
[03:30] <jrib> appserver: why would you want to do that?
[03:30] <EJ> tommck: ahhh i c.
[03:30] <Out_Cold> sunapi386, how do i know it's sdb1?
[03:30] <tommck_> EJ - then I realized I'd broken it..  - stupid me
[03:30] <tripitakit> Out_Cold: use sudo fdsik -l
[03:30] <sunapi386> fdisk
[03:30] <sunapi386> lol
[03:30] <tommck_> EJ - thanks for the help.. think I'm going to take a crack at this stuff tomorrow morning
[03:30] <tripitakit> hemm lol
[03:30] <appserver> jrib: to make my pc load free less mem
[03:31] <lenswipe> can someone help me out with my apache troubles here?
[03:31] <tripitakit> Out_Cold: use sudo fdisk -l
[03:31] <tripitakit> ^^
[03:31] <lenswipe> i borked /sites-available/default
[03:31] <lenswipe> where can i download another?
[03:31] <jrib> appserver: runlevels 2-5 are identical by default on debian and ubuntu
[03:31] <EJ> well i would start with reinstalling X to see if that fixes it ... if not, you may be looking at a reinstall
[03:31] <lenswipe> anyone at all?
[03:31] <lenswipe> i just need to download the original apache file
[03:31] <tommck_> EJ - yeah... we'll see :)  Thanks a lot for the quick attention/help
[03:31] <EJ> tommck: ok take care
[03:32] <lenswipe> nvm,
[03:32] <Out_Cold> i don't believe the usb hard drive is in my fdisk...
[03:32] <EJ> tommck: wish i could have been more help ...
[03:32] <tripitakit> Out_Cold: plug it in... then check
[03:32] <tommck_> EJ - no problem.  at least it wasn't quick - would have made me feel like an idiot :)
[03:32] <EJ> tommck: lol
[03:33] <Out_Cold> no kidding tripitakit
[03:33] <tripitakit> Out_Cold: i'm not
[03:33] <sigmab3ta> anyone here know much about mythtv?
[03:33] <tripitakit> Out_Cold: why do you think I am?
[03:33] <bneitsch> anyone use gtkpod with the NEW version of ubunut? 8.10
[03:34] <Berri> There is a new ubuntu already O_o
[03:34] <tripitakit> Out_Cold: plug it in then check with sudo fdisk -l, what is wrong with that?
[03:34] <ville__> Hello! why is firfox so laggy?
[03:34] <raven_> personally, i agree with u ville_ and i hate firefox
[03:34] <raven_> i recommend seamonkey to u
[03:34] <raven_> seeing as u seem to have the same problem as i
[03:34] <ville__> raven_: yeah i got seamokey :)
[03:34] <Stargazer> Anybody know if finch handles google talk or not ?
[03:35] <raven_> ^^
[03:35] <cali_> Wireless usb not working. Help. How do I trouble shoot why my wpn111 not working on 8.10.
[03:35] <raven_> ville__, as for ur actual question, no idea why it is so laggy, it just is :p
[03:35] <elvirolo> hi everyone
[03:35] <raven_> hai
[03:35] <tripitakit> hello elvirolo
[03:36] <ville__> raven_: yeah and it's so annoying :/
[03:36] <elvirolo> how do i specify mount options (utf8 in this case) for partitions that are mounted automatically?
[03:36] <Anacranom> cali_, wpn111 always had issues, i got it to work 1 time,,, very briefly
[03:36] <ville__> raven_: and then suddenly it stops responding :(
[03:36] <rubicon> don't mess with synaptic when ur drunk
[03:37] <rubicon> raven, why is seamonkey so much better?
[03:37] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: I'm now plugged into the ethernet cable for my PS2 because ubuntu doesnt work with my wireless card
[03:37] <linkmaster03> To use USB in Virtualbox on Intrepid, I need to install the closed-source version from the website, instead of the OSE version from the repos, correct?
[03:37] <ubuntu> hi
[03:37] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: are u in live ubuntu now?
[03:38] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: yes
[03:38] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: so start the install
[03:38] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: I did
[03:38] <zsquareplusc> PeskyJ: according to that site, the printers should show up in the cups settings after running make install. and make sure oyu use either the ubuntu package or the source distribution. i wouldn't mix both
[03:38] <rubicon> linkmaster, what are you trying to use USB for
[03:38] <ubuntu> i need help
[03:38] <rubicon> some things will still work without closed version
[03:38] <linkmaster03> rubicon: headset
[03:38] <lakitu> is there a way to kill a frozen window?
[03:39] <tripitakit> lakitu: use xkill
[03:39] <ubuntu> brb
[03:39] <rubicon> I know keyboards and mice work just fine
[03:39] <Stargazer> Anyone know if finch (pidgin for the terminal) has an option for google talk ?
[03:39] <EJ> lakitu: kill <pid #>
[03:39] <rubicon> might wanna try it before installing closed version
[03:39] <uhsf> how to get a sony vaio integrated webcam to work with the ricoh driver that was broken with kernel > 2.26?
[03:39] <linkmaster03> rubicon: ok thanks
[03:39] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: How do I unmount the partition?
[03:39] <sunapi386> kill <pid #1>
[03:39] <tripitakit> lakitu: ALT-P then type xkills then click on it
[03:39] <rubicon> the main things that dont work are ipod and stuff like that
[03:39] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: right click on ut
[03:40] <tripitakit> *it
[03:40] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: then click "unmount"
[03:40] <Cluber> hey
[03:40] <wastrel> what do i use to play this DVD?  "Movie Player" doesn't work - shows the FBI warning then pops up a dialog about an error
[03:40] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: It doesn't have an unmount option.
[03:40] <lakitu> EJ, what is a pid
[03:41] <brujo> how to send chars to console with ioctl
[03:41] <brujo> ?
[03:41] <EJ> Process ID Number
[03:41] <lakitu> tripitakit,  xkill isn't working
[03:41] <lakitu> tripitakit, alt-p doesn't do anything for me
[03:41] <EJ> lakitu: sudo ps x in term
[03:41] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: if u right click on the partittion box?
[03:41] <tripitakit> lakitu: alt-f2 then
[03:42] <bluk> Hi, I have a dual screen setup and in nvidia settings i have it configured so i have 2 seperate x screens. It seems to be working fine, but i can't move my moue to the second screen.
[03:42] <bluk> Oddly enough if I vnc into the machine from a remote host I can move the mouse to the second screen and see it moving around!
[03:42] <bluk> any ideas?
[03:42] <EJ> lakitu; then find the process and kill the # associated with it ... kill <pid#>
[03:42] <lakitu> EJ, ok
[03:42] <uhsf> i installed everything for my webcam but why is there no /dev/video0?
[03:42] <bluk> also if i move the mouse to the second screen via vnc it gets locked on that second screen!
[03:42] <EJ> lakitu: or sudo kill <pid#>
[03:42] <Qebafhzn> tripitakit: yes, i think
[03:42] <bluk> until i move it to the main screen via vnc
[03:42] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: the unmount command is there...
[03:43] <Cluber> Can someone help me with my java, it isn't compiling my code properly. I am using javac from the command line and this is my java version output http://pastebin.com/d43691ee8. I want to compile with java sun.
[03:43] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: maybe it is not selectable (gray)
[03:43] <tripitakit> Qebafhzn: but it is there
[03:43] <zsquareplusc> bluk: well if there are separate screens, you probably also need 2 vnc connections
[03:43] <lakitu> EJ: =/ i don't see it
[03:43] <Miesco> Dr4qgon
[03:43] <Miesco> you there?
[03:43] <threeseas> is there a way to get grep to list lines in a file that start with "./" ?
[03:43] <lakitu> it's a copy window for a corrupted harddrive, that froze
[03:43] <samacs> hello! Is anybody available for help?
[03:43] <cali_> Wireless usb not working. Help. How do I trouble shoot why my wpn111 not working on 8.10.
[03:44]  * DaveDixonII is sleeping. do not disturb.
[03:44] <Miesco> dragon?
[03:44] <om3> yea
[03:44] <Miesco> om3 yopu dragon?
[03:44] <samacs> are you om3?
[03:44] <PeskyJ> zsquareplusc: well I gave up on it.. will have another look tomorrow :(
[03:44] <tripitakit> threeseas: u'd chek grep and regular expressions
[03:44] <om3> can we go private chat
[03:44] <zsquareplusc> bluk: but moving the cursor from screen to screen worked here. but maybe you need to check the pysical positions in nvidia-settings. make sure the monitors are side to side and sharing an edge
[03:44] <Miesco> om3 you dragon?
[03:44] <Miesco> from nexuiz?
[03:44] <om3> yea
[03:45] <om3> im ome d dragon
[03:45] <Miesco> yea private chat
[03:45] <om3> how
[03:45] <EJ> lakitu: try ps aux
[03:45] <tripitakit> threeseas: cat file | grep ./ (but like this it get all occurnece of ./ not just at the beginning)
[03:45] <cali_> has there been any luck with getting wpn111 wireless usb to work
[03:45] <Miesco> om3: Go to my private chat man
[03:45] <wastrel> Ubuntu can't play DVD's
[03:45] <Miesco> wastrel, medibutnu
[03:45] <om3> how can i go nexuiz chat from here
[03:46] <Miesco> medibuntu lol
[03:46] <Miesco> om3: nexuiz chata?
[03:46] <Miesco> chat?
[03:46] <Miesco> #nexuiz?
[03:46] <Miesco> om3 talk to me
[03:46] <zsquareplusc> !enter
[03:46] <Daejeo> is there any email client for centos with similar attributes as Microsoft outlook ? example you can apply rules for incoming mesages
[03:46] <Miesco> om3: Im private chattin you
[03:46] <om3> ok
[03:47] <om3> ar u sure
[03:47] <Miesco> respond!
[03:47] <Miesco> yeas
[03:47] <Miesco> respond
[03:47] <Miesco> click on the tab or watever
[03:47] <cali_> anyone, any luck with getting the wpn111 usb wireless adapter to work
[03:47] <tripitakit> Daejeo: centos?
[03:47] <Miesco> brb gotta piss
[03:47] <FloodBot2> Miesco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <zsquareplusc> Daejeo: evolution has the look and feel.. but filters are possible with most email apps. like thunderbird and others
[03:47] <tripitakit> Daejeo: thinderbird or evolution lets you create filter rules....
[03:47] <samacs> can anybody help me? How can I unflag a windows damaged partition?
[03:48] <tripitakit> samacs: what you mean with unflag?
[03:48] <samacs> here's the thing...
[03:48] <tripitakit> samacs: anyway try ntfsfix
[03:48] <bluk> bluk: the monitors are side by side and sharing an edge. And the vnc thing and 2 vnc cnonection is irrelevant... i'm saying physically at the computer not over vnc i can't move the mouse to the second screen it just stops at the edge. But if i remote in to the comp via vnc i can move the mouse to the second montior from the remote host, just never from the actual comp
[03:48] <Daejeo> tripitakit: can i di something like : if i see subject "callme" i want to run some script   callme,pl
[03:48] <om3> miesco
[03:49] <lakitu> thanks, EJ, that worked
[03:49] <EJ> lakitu :) yw
[03:49] <om3> im in the private chat with u
[03:49] <tripitakit> Daejeo: yes
[03:49] <Daejeo> cool
[03:49] <samacs> I'm trying to install ubuntu from a LiveCD but got this error telling me that the live cd cannot resize anypartition, I googled it and found that when a partition is damaged MBR protects partitions from being changed, is that right? so partitions cannot be made by live cd
[03:49] <CarlFK> how do I turn on my fan full speed?
[03:50] <zsquareplusc> bluk: hm. well x2x allows you to move the mouse/keyboard from one to the other x server. but that shouldn't be needed for your setup.
[03:50] <tripitakit> samacs: u have to run ntfsfix on it
[03:50] <CarlFK> samacs: or just blow away all the win stuff and create new partitions
[03:51] <tripitakit> samacs: sorry for my english: use ntfsfix /dev/sda? (your partition dev) to fi it
[03:51] <tripitakit> *fix it
[03:51] <EJ> samacs: you could wipe out the partitions so the drive has no partitions and then do an install ... i have seen some disrto's lock up the partitions so Ubuntu cant install be, i simply wiped out all partitions and the let Ubuntu create on a clean drive
[03:52] <samacs> cannot lose that data
[03:52] <samacs> :S
[03:52] <zsquareplusc> backup...
[03:52] <tripitakit> samacs: just fix it or restart windows eit cleanly and then restart the live
[03:52] <Daejeo> tripitakit: can i run  thinderbird on ssh?
[03:52] <Kopfsturm> Hm...
[03:52] <Kopfsturm> this is Eng res?
[03:53] <samacs> that's kindda what I'm gonna do
[03:53] <zsquareplusc> Daejeo: if you have a local X server, try ssh -X
[03:53] <tripitakit> Daejeo: what do you mean?
[03:53] <samacs> thx tripitakit
[03:53] <samacs> and you all, thanks...
[03:53] <samacs> anyways, I cannot mount any windows partition from live cd
[03:53] <samacs> is that right?
[03:54] <tripitakit> samacs: no it is not right
[03:54] <Kopfsturm> People, plz, question: I set up "Background transparent" to true in xchat-gnome and now he not running! :(
[03:54] <samacs> how can I do it?
[03:54] <mhall119> newer live cds should have the ntfs3g driver, letting you mount read/write
[03:54] <tripitakit> samacs: open a terminal pls
[03:54] <samacs> ntfsfix told that the partition is damaged and have to run chkdsk
[03:54] <samacs> ok
[03:54] <samacs> I have a terminal open
[03:55] <mhall119> samacs: you should just be able to double-click the drive in Places->Computer
[03:55] <tripitakit> samacs: sudo fdisk -l
[03:55] <tripitakit> samacs: and note down then /dev/sda?of the pertition u want
[03:55] <samacs> got it
[03:55] <uhsf> l
[03:55] <jlumy> I have been working with SuSE, and their support is crap. I'm trying to find something better.
[03:56] <threeseas> how do I print a man page?
[03:56] <tripitakit> samacs: sudo mkdir /media/win
[03:56] <ironfroggy_> any thoughts on why -k to tar would still give me lots of "Cannot open: File Exists" errors?
[03:56] <uhsf> sony vaio integrated webcam anyone?
[03:56] <ironfroggy_> when unpacking?
[03:56] <mhall119> you know, I never even considered printing a man page before
[03:56] <samacs> got it tripitakit
[03:56] <jlumy> Vsn you get the man page on kde konqueror?
[03:57] <ironfroggy_> threeseas: if you can pipe to your printer device, just man command > printer
[03:57] <csilk> threeseas,  man ls | col -b | lp
[03:57] <tripitakit> samacs: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda? /media/win   (/dev/sda? is the actual sda with the right number)
[03:57] <samacs> got it
[03:58] <uhsf> linux got so loud about better webcam support in latest kernels but it's really all so much bs.  it's even more broken than it was
[03:58] <tripitakit> samacs: then go to /media/win
[03:58] <samacs> now I can see windows files :D
[03:58] <Kopfsturm> People, plz, question: I set up "Background transparent" to true in xchat-gnome and now he not running! :(
[03:58] <tripitakit> samacs: and u find them all
[03:58] <samacs> yah!!
[03:58] <thiebaude> uhsf:also wirless too
[03:58] <samacs> let me try to resize that partition
[03:59] <tripitakit> samacs: wait
[03:59] <samacs> ok
[03:59] <samacs> yes?
[03:59] <tripitakit> samacs: partition have to be unmounted to be resized
[03:59] <samacs> yah
[03:59] <tripitakit> samacs: ok fine.. :)
[03:59] <threeseas> thanks guys, to print a man page look it up in a browser on the internet and print from there.... shrug
[03:59] <samacs> gonna try to...
[03:59] <samacs> brb
[03:59] <mhall119> uhsf: also, VAIO hardware sucks on standards
[03:59] <csilk> threeseas,  I already told you how
[03:59] <Kopfsturm> You are ignoring me? o_O
[03:59] <csilk> man ls | col -b | lp
[03:59] <samacs> hope to keep on line while I do it
[03:59] <samacs> lol
[04:00] <tripitakit> samacs: going to bed it 5 am here
[04:00] <threeseas> csilk: yeah, I guess you did
[04:00] <csilk> -_-
[04:00] <csilk> meh, why do I care
[04:00] <samacs> ok, don't worry, you really helped me out! I appreciate that tripitakit
[04:00] <moyote> Kopfsturm, do u mean that xchat doesn't work at all?
[04:00] <om3> wat is the best music player
[04:00] <samacs> have a nice night
[04:00] <tripitakit> samacs: sorry but i'm almost dead ^_^
[04:00] <samacs> hahahaha
[04:00] <tripitakit> lol
[04:00] <thiebaude> om3:i like amarok
[04:00] <mewshi_> mew! :D
[04:00] <mewshi_> 8.10 is amazing! :D
[04:01] <samacs> thanks pal
[04:01] <thiebaude> i cant say what's the best
[04:01] <mhall119> om3: depends on what your needs are
[04:01] <tripitakit> ur welcome
[04:01] <thiebaude> yup
[04:01] <om3> mp3
[04:01] <mhall119> no, I meant do you want something to just play a file, manage a library, integrate with your iPod, etc
, now i sit in simply xchat, but i want xchat-gnome, but after my setups he not running...
[04:01] <tripitakit> good evening/night/moring to all .. time to rest for me
[04:01] <om3> ipod yea
[04:02] <moyote> Kopfsturm, have you tried closing it and restarting it?
[04:02] <mhall119> default rhythmbox should work with you ipod
[04:02] <mhall119> amarok too, I think
[04:02] <mhall119> or songbird
[04:02] <mewshi_> I have a question
[04:02] <mewshi_> I have a dual-core processor
[04:02] <mewshi_> are there any programs I would find useful?
[04:03] <mhall119> try Rhythmbox if you're using gnome, and Amarok if KDE
, yes, and restart and reinstal and fully delete and reinstal again...
[04:03] <Kopfsturm> >_<
[04:03] <thiebaude> newshi:what kind of programs?
[04:03] <moyote> Kopfsturm, why don't you use just xchat instead of xchat-gnome?
[04:03] <mewshi_> Things to deal with dual-core procs
[04:03] <thiebaude> mewshi
[04:04] <thiebaude> amarok works with gnome
, Hmm... I like xchat-gnome:)
[04:04] <mhall119> yes, but amarok uses the KDE libraries, doesn't it?
[04:04] <mhall119> or QT at least
[04:04] <mewshi_> mhall119, the problem is...?
[04:04] <mewshi_> I like amarok
[04:04] <mewshi_> *almost* as much as songbird :)
[04:04] <thiebaude> kde and gnome are inter-changable
, maybe U know, how delete settings-file?
[04:04] <mewshi_> songbird is made of win :)
[04:05] <PeskyJ> xchat is great... my only complaints with it so far are that ctrl+tab doesn't switch between tabs/channels (and you can't configure it to do that, or I haven't figured out how to yet) and that /leave isn't smart enough to know you mean the current channel tab
[04:05] <crakrjak> Hi all, i just upgraded my machine to 6 GB of ram, 32 bit 8.04 install, i believe i needed to recompile my kernel with PAE enabled which i did and no go, now i suspect i need to enable HIGHMEM64 also, does that sound right?
[04:05] <mhall119> thiebaude: yes, I just don't see a need to import all of kdelib if Rhythmbox works for someone
[04:05] <Stargazer> Is there a way to make gnome-panel's windows... bars... without icon ?
[04:05] <mewshi_> so, are there any programs I would find useful for handling a dual-core system? :)
[04:05] <thiebaude> i agree, mhall119
[04:05] <ardchoille> PeskyJ: what about alt+1, alt+2, etc ?
[04:05] <threeseas> whats wrong with teh following: cat fileattribs.txt | grep 2008-11-15 | ./       I don't want the second pipe but instead the alternative grep pattern
[04:06] <_raven_> could someone take a look at a script and answer me a question?
[04:06] <gavagai> mewshi_, the gnome pan applet for frequency scaling lets you change how the cores behave
[04:06] <mhall119> Stargazer: you want to do what now?
[04:06] <PeskyJ> ardchoille: yeah, that works... but the keys aren't configurable
[04:06] <moyote> Kopfsturm, installing xchat-gnome to see.
[04:06] <mewshi_> Well, I already have that going :)
[04:06] <_raven_> i want to take chunks of this eee gnome customizer script and run it on a non-eee system, which is fine for fonts and things
[04:06] <ardchoille> PeskyJ: true
[04:06] <kiopes> raven: show the script
[04:06] <crakrjak> three: whats the ./ for?
[04:06] <_raven_> but i want to add OSD notifications for my wifi
[04:06] <_raven_> and i need to know if they will work :p
[04:06] <mewshi_> is there something I can use to do *both* with the same button?
[04:07] <threeseas> crakrjak: to output directory line in the file (the file is an ls -l output)
[04:07] <Stargazer> Mhall119, say like Transmission has it's little lever... it's icon is right next to it's name in gnome-panel (for a window), and nautilus has it's little filing system icon next to it's name... i want to remove that icon.
, simply set checkbox to true in Background Transparent. After this xc-g exit and now not running...
[04:08] <crakrjak> three: ./ is a directory and you are trying to run it, maybe im missing something
[04:08] <mewshi_> so, any ideas?
[04:08] <mhall119> Stargazer: oh, I have no idea, it may be a theme option, or something you can access in gconf
[04:08] <PeskyJ> ardchoille: I'm too used to windows apps, heh :) actually there's one other thing that's a bit annoying, it doesn't nick-match unless your nick is a whole word, for example followed by a - or something and it doesn't match
[04:09] <threeseas> crakrjak: to output directory lines in the file (the file is an ls -l output to file upon which is given to grep )
[04:09] <arquebus> anyone know how to enable global menu in gnome?\
[04:09] <Stargazer> Ardchoille... same one from tip.it ..?
[04:09] <moyote> Kopfsturm: well, i haven't any idea, I'm using xchat-gnome and I set the transparency but it works here.
[04:09] <ardchoille> Stargazer: ?
[04:09] <PeskyJ> ardchoille: other than that it's fantastic.. way better than anything I ever used in windows
, >_<
[04:09] <ardchoille> PeskyJ: Preferences > Input box > Automatice nick completiion
, wtf...
[04:09] <Stargazer> Ardchoille: are you the same one from tip.it ?
[04:10] <ardchoille> Stargazer: no
[04:10] <PeskyJ> ardchoille--> some people do this
, maybe my video card?...
[04:10] <Stargazer> Oh
[04:10] <Kopfsturm> But other apps working normally...
[04:10] <Kopfsturm> and compiz working norm...
[04:10] <Kudi> how do i make a straigt line conky without messing with the offsets the whole time
[04:10] <moyote> Kopfsturm: I don't know. Can you unset the transparency? This is why I use xchat, it's more powerful with more options.
[04:10] <texta> hey guy's.
[04:11] <PeskyJ> ardchoille: did you see how it wasn't highlighted?
[04:11] <ardchoille> PeskyJ: yep
[04:11] <texta> Has anyone been able to get Nforce RAID0 configured with Vista mounted?
[04:11] <moyote> Kopfsturm: are u using an accerlerated desktop?
, no, if only try to reprogramming *.glade files...
[04:11] <texta> dmraid has configured the set, but it won't let me mount it.
, hm... compiz fussion.
[04:12] <arquebus> anyone know how to enable global menu in gnome?
[04:12] <poboy975linux_> hello, anyone here know how to setup a cuecat barcode scanner in hardy?
[04:12] <thiebaude> arquebus: what is global menu?
, What do U mean under A D?
[04:12] <threeseas> argh... bash see the alternative symbol fo rgrep as a pipe
[04:13] <arquebus> thiebaude- some guy told me to get new themes in gnome you have to enable the global menu, I dont know what it is
[04:13] <moyote> Kopfsturm: yes, compiz is an accerlerated desktop. I don't know is that makes a difference. It means you have visual effects turned on.
[04:13] <Kudi> how do i make a straigt line conky without messing with the offsets the whole time
[04:13] <devslashnull> i have 4 partitions on my 160GB hard drive 1. Linux main partition 2. empty NTFS partition 3. empty Fat32 partition 4. linux swap. is there a way to easily merge partitions 2 and 3 without messing up the boot loader
[04:13] <thiebaude> arquebus: just downlaod the themes
, And know what? I think, i like now xchat!;)
[04:13] <mhall119> Kudi: I'm not sure what you're asking about
[04:13] <arquebus> thiebaude: ok, I'll look into that
[04:14] <moyote> Kopfsturm: it it working?
[04:14] <Kopfsturm> *goues to delete xchat-gnome*
[04:14] <moyote> Kopfsturm: :-))
[04:14] <mhall119> did you dpgk-reconfigure xchat-gnome?
[04:14] <lyken2> hello
[04:14] <thiebaude> google gnome themes,arquebus
[04:14] <Kudi> mhall119: you kno the conky style where you have everything in a striangt line at the top or bottom? how do people do that without going crazy with the offsets
[04:14]  * moyote switches back to xchat
[04:14] <arquebus> thiebaude: good idea
[04:15] <thiebaude> i got xchat and pidgin
[04:15] <sanjiro> I installed Ubuntu 8.10 from live cd, I setup my initial user ... now I'm running aptitude and its asking for root.. do I have to setup root seperately? This is odd.
[04:16] <sanjiro> ah.. sudo passwd root
[04:16] <PeskyJ> pidgin sucks for irc, but seems pretty good for IM... I don't really think IRC and IM are similar enough to use the same interface for both
[04:16] <lyken2> does anyone dual boot with windows on this channel
[04:16] <Kopfsturm> sanjiro, no, why root? U have Ur pass for all.
[04:16] <thiebaude> PeskyJ: i tried irissi
[04:16] <Kopfsturm> Pidgin good for ICQ!:)
[04:16] <sanjiro> lyken2: i do
[04:17] <PeskyJ> thiebaude: I used to use irssi, didn't really get along with it though... it was good for leaving running in a screen session though :)
[04:17] <Kopfsturm> xchat for IRC, Pidgin for ICQ and all:)
[04:17] <moyote> lyken2, yes, I do, but I use separate hds for it.
[04:17] <lyken2> sajira: do you use firefox on both operating systems
[04:17] <sanjiro> what's the quickest way to open new terminal?
[04:17] <joot> lyken2: Ido
[04:17] <thiebaude> PeskyJ: it was too much for me
[04:17] <PeskyJ> Kopfsturm: yeah! :)
[04:18] <moyote> Kopfsturm, are u transparent? :-))
, Nonono, I scared to set up this thg:)
[04:18] <tecnicodpc> I bought a acer ASPIRE ONE .... And it came with Win XP  .... I  installed  UBUNTU 8.10  ...  Everything seems to work ... but  not my wireless device .... why ...?????  Is there  some kind  of codes i need  to  download ...????   Can someone Plz.  help  me ...????
[04:18] <thiebaude> xchat is easiler than pidgin
[04:18] <PeskyJ> sanjiro: don't set a password for root... instead use sudo all the time when you want to execute commands as root. If you want to execute lots in a row, you may want to do "sudo su"
[04:18] <moyote> Kopfsturm, ah, come on, don't be shy. :-)). Although I don't use it either.
[04:18] <lyken2> ok, for those of you who of you who use mozilla try adding about:config to the url. I found doubleclick.net as a dnshost in mozilla
[04:19] <wizzer> ah all updated to 8.10
, But if xchat like xchat-gnome will broke?;)
[04:19] <lyken2> I thought double click.net was for tracking. I is only in windows.
[04:19] <binskipy2u> hey guys i  have a compiz question, if i get it set up exactly how i like it..and i goto appearance and disable all affects.. if i go back there to click on custom effects, will it be as i left it?
[04:19] <binskipy2u> or will i have to re-set it all up again
[04:19] <moyote> Kopfsturm, well, unlikely that xchat is broken, maybe something on your system, dependencies, who knows?
[04:20] <wizzer> isn't doubleclick adware or something
[04:20] <cali_> help me. Wireless netgear usb adapter. wnp111 on 8.10
[04:20] <Kopfsturm> Fuf... People... sooo English words... I'm from Russia, Vladivostok!:)
[04:20] <thiebaude> wizzer: that what i thought
[04:20] <thiebaude> i wouldn't touch it
[04:21] <moyote> Kopfsturm, well, your English is fine. Better than my Russian. :-)
[04:21] <mhall119> binskipy2u: it should be saved
, XD
, U know Rus?
[04:21] <PeskyJ> lyken2: are you saying mozilla firefox will track you?
[04:21] <cali_> is this the room for wireless help
[04:21] <lyken2> joot: have you seen the doubleclick.net in your mozilla browser
[04:21] <moyote> Kopfsturm, how did you install the programs, with synaptic or the terminal?
[04:21] <tritium> lyken2: no
[04:21] <digifor> After upgrading to 8.10 sound is not working??
[04:21] <moyote> Kopfsturm, nyet.
[04:21] <mhall119> cali_: it's the room for generic help
, maybe, what U want?
[04:22] <PeskyJ> cali_: there's lots about the aspire one and how to get the wireless card working on the ubuntu forums
[04:22] <deigel> is there a issue with flashplugin-nonfree on intrepid ?  i seem to be getting a number of pages that claim its not installed, yet it is
, XD
[04:22] <cali_> my usb wireless adabper not working
[04:22] <joot> lyken2: no but I did not do about: config to find it either
[04:22] <cali_> wpn111 on 8.10
[04:22] <lyken2> PeskyJ: I saw  a text string that said something like dns.ipv4only   string: www.doubleclick.net
[04:22] <digifor> ALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
[04:22] <moyote> Kopfsturm, if you installed xchat-gnome using the console, try using synaptic to uninstall and maybe reinstall.
[04:23] <digifor> What is causing this?
[04:23] <uman> HI everyone. IM in really big trouble.  I powered off my ubuntu 8.10 box without closing down vmware and now i cant open my xp virtual machine. I keep on getting the followin error. Please help. Thanks
[04:23] <uman> This virtual machine appears to be in use.
, sometimes terminal, sometimes instal\remove app.
[04:23] <uman> If this virtual machine is already in use, press the "Cancel" button to avoid damaging it. If this virtual machine is not in use, press the "Take Ownership" button to obtain ownership of it.
[04:23] <lyken2> Joot: with about:config you can tweak your browser settings to speed up your browser, and you can tweak the security.
, hm..
[04:23] <moyote> Kopfsturm, what time is it in Russia?
[04:23] <lukeekblad> Hey, wasup guys>?   Hey I just downloaded the last.fm program thing but I need to build it, I dont know how though.  I read the readme and it says to build it:   ./configure && make      what's that soposed to mean?  Can someone please write me a code to put in the terminal that will build it or something?  that would be awesome
, I have only integrated WiFi...
[04:23] <zcat[1]> just wondering about those annoying 'XP antivirus 2009' pages that won't let you quit.... I've shown my wife how to use xkill to escape them. Is there a cleaner way of doing it?
[04:24] <joot> lyken2: yes I understand but it is not something I bother with
[04:24] <lyken2> Joot: sorry, misread. someone talking to me.
[04:24] <mhall119> moyote: Russia is a very large country
[04:24] <PeskyJ> lyken2: does that mean it blocks doubleclick by setting a different DNS?
, Maybe U need Windows drivers/
[04:24] <thiebaude> lyken2:i did alot of tweaks in about:config
, 14.24
[04:24] <joot> lyken2: np
[04:24] <deigel> is there a issue with flashplugin-nonfree on intrepid ?  i seem to be getting a number of pages that claim its not installed, yet it is
, And U? And where are U from?
[04:24] <tritium> !repeat | deigel
[04:24] <abortd> is it possible to edit partitions  booted into ubuntu?
[04:24] <moyote> Kopfsturm, aha, here it is 23:30, USA Eastern
[04:24] <tritium> Kopfsturm: please stay on topic
[04:24] <sanjiro> what do you guys recommend drivers-wise for nvidia 7600 gt? im on dual monitors, only 1 monitor works now
[04:24] <lyken2> PeskyJ: I was hoping someone had an answer, but I know an old friend used to say mozilla tracks people
[04:25] <tritium> lyken2: it's not in about:config
[04:25] <devslashnull> i have 4 partitions on my 160GB hard drive 1. Linux main partition 2. empty NTFS partition 3. empty Fat32 partition 4. linux swap. is there a way to easily merge partitions 2 and 3 without messing up the boot loader
[04:25] <lyken2> tritium: it is not in linux. I found it only in windows xp
, ok, sorry:)
[04:25] <|ns|nR8> it will mess up the bootload devslashnull, but that can be fixed
[04:25] <tensei> how do I open nautulis as root so I can copy files into system places?
[04:25] <tritium> lyken2: which is offtopic
[04:25] <devslashnull> |ns|nR8, how
[04:25] <brujo> DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
[04:25] <zcat[1]> deigel: adobe quite frequently change the download which breaks the package because the md5sum no longer matches.. I think there's instructions for installing it manually somewhere, basically download the tar.gz, extract libflash.so and copy it to the right directory
[04:26] <IdleOne> tensei: gksudo nautilus
[04:26] <cali_> kopfsturm: i got the drivers and ndiswrapper installed but the "Windows wireless drivers" program dose not show up under admin or preferences
[04:26] <zcat[1]> !flash
[04:26] <moyote> Kopfsturm, try using synaptic to uninstall xchat-gnome and then reinstall it and see what happens
[04:26] <kbrosnan> lyken2: Mozilla does not track individual people, it does keep some overall stats. not sure if the ubuntu builds have that
[04:26] <Gr33n3gg> Anyone have a Demonoid.com account?
[04:26] <|ns|nR8> devslashnull, google fix grub
, Not need, now I like to use this xchat;)
[04:26] <lyken2> kbrosnan: ok, I hope your right.
[04:27] <moyote> Kopfsturm, excellent.
, she is installed? o_O
[04:27] <Clinteger> hey guys
[04:27] <Clinteger> im using vista, and i want to dualboot
[04:27] <threeseas> is it possible to get a directory listing that shows full path to each file?
[04:27] <tensei> IdleOne, Thank you
[04:27] <zcat[1]> btw gnash sucks majorly, swfdec works a whole lot better
[04:27] <joot> zcat[1]: where is there a post install link for ubuntu 8.10
[04:27] <Clinteger> so is it okay to resize an ntfs partition or is it too much of a hassle?
[04:27] <IdleOne> devslashnull: use the Ubuntu live cd run gparted and merge the two partitions, if you plan on merging the ntfs with the linux format to the linux filesystem ( ext3 default for ubuntu )
[04:27] <IdleOne> tensei: no problem
[04:28] <mhall119> Clinteger: it will take a while if it's a big partition
[04:28] <theJKH> Hey guys all of a sudden my cam didnt work in ubuntu it did perfectly after i used easycam2, so i uninstalled esycam2 and im wandering where i can find a DEB for it out on the net to install eycam2
[04:28] <lyken2> Clinteger: ubuntu is the easiest linux to use. Mostly just click next. WARNING becareful with the partitions
[04:28] <theJKH> can anyone help me out?
[04:28] <Kopfsturm> My eyes and brain... so a lot of words... *trying fast reading and translating*
[04:28] <Clinteger> lyken2, i've used ubuntu before :P
[04:28] <PeskyJ> Clinteger: the ubuntu installer will resize it for you, you can choose how much spoace it leaves the partition with
[04:28] <abhishek> @Clinteger: Resizing partitions in the installer... not fun.
[04:28] <Clinteger> abhishek.. not fun? why is that
[04:28] <cali_> ndiswrapper is installed under synaptic package manager but dose not show up under sys preferences or sys admin
[04:28] <uman> HI everyone. IM in really big trouble.  I powered off my ubuntu 8.10 box without closing down vmware and now i cant open my xp virtual machine. I keep on getting the followin error. Please help. Thanks
[04:28] <abhishek> It takes long
[04:28] <uman> This virtual machine appears to be in use.
[04:28] <uman> If this virtual machine is already in use, press the "Cancel" button to avoid damaging it. If this virtual machine is not in use, press the "Take Ownership" button to obtain ownership of it.
[04:28] <zcat[1]> joot: halfway down the !flash page there's instructions for extracting and installing the plugin manually, that should work on anything from hardy to intrepid...
[04:29] <abhishek> I gave up after an hour and just formatted the drive... :\
[04:29] <IdleOne> uman: take ownership
[04:29] <joot> zcat[1]: thanks
[04:29] <Spanglegluppet> hey guys, i'm trying to get lexulous (scrabulous) to work in ubuntu 8.10 using firefox 3.0.3...any help?
[04:29] <mhall119> uman, does vmware create a lock file somewhere?
[04:29] <PeskyJ> uman: there's probably a lock file somewhere.. try in /var
[04:29] <abhishek> @Clinteger: You can resize the ntfs partition from within Vista I think
[04:29] <Clinteger> abhishek, will it f*** stuff up?
, try to click right button on Programs (Or how it on Eng Gnome?) and setup. may Ur app not check to true to visible in list.
[04:29] <tritium> Clinteger: let the installer do it for you.
[04:30] <Clinteger> k
[04:30] <Genius314> I have an iPod 3G nano, and it keeps disconnecting in Ubuntu 8.10. I managed to get it to work in 8.04 with the help of a guide, but now this isn't working. Has anyone gotten a 3G nano to work in 8.10?
, or try run under terminal.
[04:30] <theJKH> Anyone know eher a DEB package for EASYCAM2 is?
[04:30] <abhishek> @Clinteger: You have a single HD with extra space? Installer is good enough.
[04:30] <theJKH> Im tring to find it but i cant
[04:30] <Clinteger> abhishek, ok
[04:30] <zcat[1]> just be aware that after you get flash working, things like "XP antivirus 2009" will start working, even though they can't do any damage they do still trap you in the page and nothing short of killing the browser seems to get rid of it
[04:30] <Clinteger> abhishek, its just my friend told me that its a hassle to resize ntfs partitions, and it can cause problems
[04:30] <abhishek> @Clinteger: Multiple HDs or multiple partitions... don't go in unprepared.
[04:30] <Clinteger> well this is just 1 partition :)
[04:31] <Clinteger> abhishek, wait, i do have 2 drives
[04:31] <abhishek> :|
[04:31] <zcat[1]> Clinteger: it can take hours, and you MUST NOT turn off the machine until it's finished...
[04:31] <Clinteger> abhishek, well im only installing on one of them
[04:31] <uman> mhall119 pesky yeah there are .lck files but if i delete them and try to open it it says that it cant start cuz the filesystem has been modified so i have to copy back the deleted lck files in the oflder where the virtual machine is. havent checked the var fodler though
[04:31] <Clinteger> not moving my home to second drive or anything hehe
[04:31] <PeskyJ> Clinteger: ubuntu installer is pretty good, can't figure out some complex stuff  in guided mode, but for simply resizing a partition to make room it will be fine
[04:31] <Clinteger> zcat[1], yeah, i understand
[04:31] <Clinteger> PeskyJ, thanks a lot :D
[04:31] <brujo> fuck
[04:31] <Clinteger> gonna go do this
[04:31] <Clinteger> cya guys
[04:31] <FloodBot2> Clinteger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <zcat[1]> Clinteger: mush safer to resize the partition in windows first and install to the free space
[04:31] <tritium> !language | brujo
[04:31] <abhishek> yeah, what zcat said.
[04:32] <cali_> Kipfsturm how do i run ndiswrapper in terminal
[04:32] <brujo> i cant send ioctl chars to program running on X
[04:32] <brujo> :S
[04:32] <brujo> anyone know how?
[04:32] <gavagai> are virtual terminals turned on by default?  i can't use mine. this is on a laptop.
[04:32] <abhishek> so, do we have any experts here on ATI drivers?
[04:32] <tritium> brujo: watch your language
[04:32] <zcat[1]> actually, much safer to just buy a second drive and not mess with resizing at all ;)
[04:32] <IdleOne> !ask | abhishek
[04:32] <PeskyJ> Clinteger: oh.. if you defragment your windows drive before resizing I think it might be much quicker
, run terminal and write ndiswrap and press tab.
[04:32] <lyken2> anyone know what toys to use for making a desktop look cool
[04:33] <Clinteger> PeskyJ, yeah defrag finished like 20 minutes ago :0
[04:33] <lukeekblad> Hey, wasup guys>?   Hey I just downloaded the last.fm program thing but I need to build it, I dont know how though.  I read the readme and it says to build it:   ./configure && make      what's that soposed to mean?  Can someone please write me a code to put in the terminal that will build it or something?  that would be awesome
[04:33] <mhall119> abhishek: I don't think there is such a thing as an ATI driver expert
, if Ur terminal automatical set "ndiswrapper" - U have this app. Press Enter.
[04:33] <mhall119> lyken2: Compiz-fusion, avant-window-navigator
[04:33] <PeskyJ> lyken2: I like the scaler picker... alt+shift+up :)
[04:33] <DiiPhantom> how i know what version of java i have?
[04:33] <meoblast001> how come netplay in my Gens is greyed out
[04:34] <brujo> is possible to use ioctl(fd, TIOCSTI,char) for a graphical program?
[04:34] <mhall119> DiiPhantom: open a terminal and type: java --version
[04:34] <cali_> Kopfsturm Ok done
[04:34] <IdleOne> lukeekblad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware read this it should help you
[04:34] <abhishek> My screen looks like bad TV reception... I tried installing the restricted driver but that messes up--can't even login. I got the package from ATI website and that fixes nothing. My question is, what works and how can I get it? :(
[04:34] <lyken2> mhall119: how does one get the side bar.
[04:34] <abhishek> I've got an ATI Radeon 2600m
[04:34] <mhall119> side bar?
[04:34] <mhall119> like the Vista side bar?
[04:35] <DiiPhantom> mhall119: ok i see alot of stuff there, 4.2?
[04:35] <Jordan_U> abhishek: I assume it works in another OS?
[04:35] <abhishek> it works in Vista.
[04:35] <mhall119> DiiPhantom: paste it all
[04:35] <abhishek> :\
[04:35] <abhishek> I had it working previously under a Wubi install of Ubuntu 8.04
[04:35] <lyken2> mhall119: something like that. I think damn small linux has one to.
[04:35] <abhishek> but it's no longer working.
[04:35] <abhishek> on my fresh install of 8.04
[04:35] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | DiiPhantom
[04:35] <mhall119> lyken2: you can try gdesklets, you can put them all over the desktop, not just a side bar
[04:36] <theJKH> so does anyone know where i can download a Debian fie for Easycam2??
[04:36] <brujo> is possible to use ioctl(fd, TIOCSTI,char) for a graphical program?
[04:36] <lyken2> mhall119: thanks. Synaptic right.
[04:36] <tritium> !repeat | brujo
[04:36] <mhall119> lyken2: yeah
[04:36] <brujo> jeje
[04:37] <lyken2> mhall119: all good,your a great help
[04:37] <mhall119> lyken2: personally I hardly ever see my desktop, always have too many apps running
[04:37] <brujo> !repeat | tritium
[04:37] <mhall119> no problem
[04:37] <digifor> abhishek, did you have a gui with the livecd?
[04:37] <lyken2> mhall119: yeah, but I got tired of seeing everyone else's nice desktops. I want to compete
[04:37] <abhishek> yeah... blurry there too.
[04:38] <mhall119> lyken2: good luck with that
[04:38] <uman> Anyone here have an ipod touch ? (2nd or 1st gen?)
[04:39] <Kopfsturm> no
[04:39] <Spanglegluppet> uman: yes, 1st gen
[04:39] <abhishek> I'd try to install 8.10 and see if it fixes my problems but the installer for 8.10 doesn't even recognize my keyboard.
[04:40] <Batsmasher> I have no sound with Intrepid, I installed with wubi, any ideas?
[04:40] <digifor> abhishek, I was able to insert the livecd > hit F4 >Safe video mode> then booted... I got a good gui..
[04:40] <abhishek> @batsmasher: laptop? asus/lenovo?
[04:40] <Batsmasher> no, it's on my desktop?
[04:40] <Batsmasher> :)
[04:40] <wastrel> any way to get this DVD to work?  playback is garbled on my system
[04:40] <Genius314> My iPod nano 3G keeps connecting and disconnecting. Has anyone gotten it to connect in 8.10? I need help with it.
[04:40] <abhishek> what sound card?
[04:41] <tecnicodpc> I bought a acer ASPIRE ONE .... And it came with Win XP  .... I  installed  UBUNTU 8.10  ...  Everything seems to work ... but  not my wireless device .... why ...?????  Is there  some kind  of codes i need  to  download ...????   Can someone Plz.  help  me ...????
[04:41] <Batsmasher> yamaha... cant remember model
[04:41] <PeskyJ> Batsmasher: I noticed the sound in ubuntu is really quiet compared to windows... I think that's already logged as a bug
[04:41] <metal1> ya
[04:41] <Gr33n3gg> tecniodpc: Google your problem, there is tons of threads about that
[04:41] <digifor> abhishek, ...then I mounted the Ubuntu disk > then in terminal> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:41] <pirate> very new to a linux based os   need help installing a theme
[04:42] <PeskyJ> techman224: ahh it was you asking about the aspire... there's a forum post all about getting the wireless working on it
[04:42] <Batsmasher> @Peskyj lol, never thought of that
[04:42] <sebsebseb> pirate:  gnome-look.org
[04:42] <digifor> abhishek, that worked for me.
[04:42] <tecnicodpc> ok  Thanks Gr33n3gg
[04:42] <mhall119> pirate: do you already have a theme?
[04:42] <sebsebseb> pirate: also blubuntu  may be a nice one to get from synaptic
[04:42] <pirate> seb went there   and no help to a newbie
[04:43] <abhishek> @digifor: to fix the ATI issue or the installer issue? I asked two questions, lol
[04:43] <PeskyJ> tecnicodpc: um that was meant for you, sorry techman224
[04:43] <pirate> hal  the one thats under ubunto
[04:43] <mhall119> pirate: you download a theme from gnome-look.org, and then install it from the Appearance program
[04:43] <pirate> how
[04:43] <sebsebseb> I made a 1GB  swap partition and I also have a 4mb or so swap partition,  because of the way my partition set up is done,  I thought may as well use that 4mb for something.    I also think this computer is not using any swap,  how to turn it on?
[04:43] <pirate> ok let me try once again  ok
[04:44] <sebsebseb> swapon did nothing
[04:44] <sebsebseb> and
[04:44] <sebsebseb> well no errrors for swapon
[04:44] <digifor> abhishek, that gave me a workable gui
[04:44] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: did you check system rsources
[04:44] <sebsebseb> and nothing else in terminal
[04:44] <zcat[1]> 'no errors' usually means it worked
[04:44] <PeskyJ> how does the installer decide how much space to use for swap? it seems pretty made that it created 9GiB of swap when I have 3.5GiB of ram, and on another machine it made 1GiB swap when I only have 1GiB RAM
[04:45] <sebsebseb> dmesg | grep swap   just came up with like a  manual type thing
[04:45] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: where?
[04:45] <joeb3_> sebsebseb, run top.  does it show swap ?
[04:45] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: in system monitor
[04:45] <joot> sebsebseb: I think your swap is toooo small and should be around 512 mb
[04:45] <abhishek> @digifor: well, I'll try that then
[04:45] <sebsebseb> Pesky: indeed 9GB of swap is crazy,  I would recommend about 1GB in your case
[04:45] <zcat[1]> general rule of thumb swap = 2* ram up to a gig or two, swap=ram once you go beyond that
[04:46] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: system.system monitor.memory and swap history
[04:46] <sebsebseb> joot: I have two now,  a 1GB swap and the small 4mb or so
[04:46] <digifor> I just need sound. Something messed up with pulseaudio after upgrade to 8.10
[04:46] <joljam> i need help connecting wireless
[04:46] <joljam> from command line
[04:46] <sebsebseb> digifor: ok try this  killall pulseaudio
[04:46] <thiebaude> you have a swap file,sebseseb
[04:46] <joot> sebsebseb: not sure what the 4mb would do
[04:46] <thiebaude> !swap
[04:46] <sebsebseb> joot: just space that it insists to have, because of how my partition set up is done
[04:46] <sebsebseb> the 4mb
[04:47] <sebsebseb> thought may as well use it for something,  plus to do a 1GB swap
[04:47] <Gr33n3gg> joljam: GIYF
[04:47] <sebsebseb> so  two swap partitions
[04:47] <zcat[1]> once you get past 4G you hardly need bother with swap except as somewhere to hibernate to
[04:47] <joljam> what does that mean... GIYF
[04:47] <thiebaude> i thought swap was when you run low on memory ram
[04:47] <Gr33n3gg> Google is your friend
[04:47] <pirate> whats the differnce in    gtk    and gdm themes
[04:47] <Gr33n3gg> Instead of wasting our time, google your problem.
[04:47] <cellfish> anyone know how to get gtkpod to play music? I can sync and all but whenever i try to play music, it doesn't do a thing
[04:47] <Baatti> for some reason, my shell script isn't running. I'm getting this message:  bash: ./scriptone.sh: usr/bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[04:48] <joljam> I TRIED UNSUCCESSFULLY WITH IT
[04:48] <thiebaude> pirate: i think gdm is login-manager
[04:48] <cellfish> installed xmms2, replaced the xmms command in gtkpod with xmms2 and it no longer gives me an error ... it does nothing instead
[04:48] <Baatti> the first line in my script is: #!/bin/sh
[04:48] <joljam> I cam here for help
[04:48] <tritium> joljam: no need for all-caps, please
[04:48] <joljam> can anyone help me
[04:48] <digifor> sebsebseb, strange "pulseaudio: no process killed"
[04:48] <PeskyJ> 9GiB for swap seems pretty high.. I haven't even seen the RAM use go much above 1GiB
[04:48] <Baatti> caps is cruise control for cool
[04:48] <Gr33n3gg> joljaml: You didnt provide any details of your problem.
[04:48] <joljam> caps all was inadvertent
[04:48] <thiebaude> pirate: gtk is what you need
[04:48] <zcat[1]> 9g for swap is just silly...
[04:49] <joljam> I cannot connect to the wireless network
[04:49] <thiebaude> wow, and i just have 521mb of ram
[04:49] <joljam> how can i detect the networks in my range
[04:49] <Baatti> joljam what version of ubuntu you running?
[04:49] <Gr33n3gg> joljam: Well, what wireless card are you using?
[04:49] <Miesco> om3?
[04:49] <joljam> how can I do that from command line.. I am running 8/.04
[04:49] <PeskyJ> zcat[1]: I thought that maybe the installer just uses a fixed percentage of the disc space or something.
[04:49] <Baatti> joljam what wireless card?
[04:50] <sebsebseb> joeb3: after running top:  Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,   362916k cached
[04:50] <zcat[1]> PeskyJ: no idea. It's probably based on the phase of the moon or something...
[04:50] <joljam> is there any command from command line  which gives me the type of wireless card
[04:50] <wiwin> a
[04:50] <tensei> is there any reason ALT+F2 shouldn't work in ubuntu 8.04 after i've removed the panels
[04:50] <Baatti> hrm
[04:50] <Gr33n3gg> omg...
[04:50] <zcat[1]> sebsebseb: 'swapon /dev/sda5' or whatever partition swap is on
[04:50] <Gr33n3gg> joljam: Do you know the brand/model of your wireless card?
[04:51] <tritium> joljam: is it a pci card?  If so, use "lspci"
[04:51] <JamesJr> If anyone in here owns a forum or website and wants to earn money please send me a message
[04:51] <PeskyJ> zcat[1]: heh.. well that was a "use entire disc" option on a 300G drive, I've never seen it use any of the sqap yet
[04:51] <zcat[1]> sebsebseb: and to make it persistent put it in /etc/fstab
[04:51] <tritium> JamesJr: please don't advertise here
[04:51] <joljam> think its a lspci
[04:51] <Baatti> heh
[04:51] <Baatti> joljam type lspci in your terminal
[04:51] <tensei> is there a way to find out which command to use to run an application?
[04:51] <Daejeo> Starting VNC server: no displays configured                [  OK  ]
[04:51] <DiiPhantom> here is my java info http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/72704/
[04:51] <sebsebseb> zcat[1]: I have two swap partitions the  1GB and the 4mb
[04:51] <joljam> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[04:51] <Daejeo> how can i configure the display?
[04:52] <Baatti> tensei try ./<filename>
[04:52] <Gr33n3gg> There we go
[04:52] <zcat[1]> sebsebseb: I wouldn't bother with the 4M.
[04:52] <DiiPhantom> mhall119: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/72704/
[04:52] <tritium> joljam: good, that's easily supported with the ipw2200 kernel module
[04:52] <joljam> ok tritium
[04:52] <sebsebseb> zcat[1]: well  I thought may as well use it for something,  an actsaul partiton that is 4mb  what's the point?  a swap though why not
[04:52] <Baatti> joljam, you should upgrade to 8.10, intrepid has a ton of built in wireless help
[04:52] <mhall119> DiiPhantom: looks like you don't have any version of Java installed
[04:52] <tritium> joljam: "lsmod | grep ipw2200
[04:53] <zcat[1]> sebsebseb: because it probably takes more than 4M to map out how it relates to real mamory ;)
[04:53] <zcat[1]> *memory
[04:53] <DiiPhantom> how i install the newest one or whichever?
[04:53] <sebsebseb> zcat[1]: what you mean map out?
[04:53] <mewshi_> rar? :3
[04:53] <tensei> Baatti, in terminal?
[04:53] <joljam> tritium...http://paste.ubuntu.com/72709/
[04:53] <Baatti> my shell script won't run: the first line in the script is #!/bin/sh  I'm getting an error of: bash: ./scriptone.sh: usr/bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[04:54] <zcat[1]> sebsebseb: I don't really know how swap works, but I figure there's some sort of mapping saying where a page is, real ram or in swap...
[04:54] <Baatti> tensei what about terminal?
[04:54] <mhall119> DiiPhantom: from the terminal: sudo apt-get install sun-java6
[04:54] <Genius314> My iPod nano 3G keeps diconnecting/reconnecting in 8.10. Is there anything extra I have to do to get it to work?
[04:54] <zcat[1]> ... 4M is so small it's a joke. I wouldn't even bother enabling it
[04:54] <mhall119> DiiPhantom: from the terminal: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[04:54] <tensei> Baatti, I got ride of gnome panels and installed AWN, i'm trying to find a way to add programs to the launcher, but I don't know how to figure out the command to run them..
[04:55] <unop> Baatti, your error message contradicts your shebang - the error message says usr/bin/sh is not found - you're missing the preceding /
[04:55] <Daejeo> Starting VNC server: no displays configured                [  OK  ]  how can i configure the display?
[04:55] <tritium> joljam: excellent.  The modele is loaded
[04:55] <joljam> tritium were u able to figure anything out
[04:55] <Baatti> unop should the first line of my script.sh be: #!usr/bin/sh   ???
[04:55] <meoblast001> why wont netplay work in gens... it's greyed out
[04:55] <tritium> joljam: please type "iwconfig" and see if any of the interfaces list wireless extensions
[04:56] <wastrel> Baatti: ls -l /bin/sh
[04:56] <mhall119> Baatti: no
[04:56] <SJr|Nbook> !version
[04:56] <unop> Baatti, no, it should be #!/usr/bin/sh
[04:56] <Baatti> I tried that as well, and it didn't work either
[04:56] <wastrel> no it shouldn't since /usr/bin/sh doesn't exist
[04:56] <Gr33n3gg> joljam: Or type iwconfig <interface> scanning to see APs in the area
[04:56] <unop> Baatti, or #!/bin/sh  rather
[04:57] <joljam> tritium...http://paste.ubuntu.com/72710/
[04:57] <mhall119> Baatti: from the terminal: which sh
[04:57] <Baatti> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-11-12 21:19 /bin/sh -> dash
[04:57] <Baatti> << when I do ls -l /bin/sh
[04:57] <wiwin> ribkao
[04:57] <unop> Baatti, right, so your shebang has to call that then
[04:57] <tritium> joljam: ok, eth1 is your wireless interface, but it says the radio is off.  Does it have a physical switch?
[04:57] <Baatti> so then, #!/bin/sh
[04:58] <joljam> nothing I know of
[04:58] <Anacranom> ok, that proves it,,, 8.10 is a train-wreck for n00bs trying to convert to linux!
[04:58] <wastrel> #!/bin/sh should work
[04:58] <joljam> tritium
[04:58] <Baatti> joljam you might have to update your blacklist
[04:58] <sebsebseb> zcat[1]:  sda6 by the looks of it is my 1GB swap
[04:58] <mindrape> Anacranom: based on what?
[04:59] <sebsebseb> zcat[1]: so as for dev well let's find out
[04:59] <joot> tritium joljam ; there is a subtle switch on the front of acer laptops (some)
[04:59] <Anacranom> mindrape, just scroll up a while,,,,,
[04:59] <PeskyJ> Anacranom: I wouldn't say that... I'm a noob (well I've used debian a lot on servers but I've never used X before) and I found ubuntu great to switch to
[04:59] <Baatti> ah, thanks guys
[04:59] <Baatti> I got my script to run :D
[04:59] <joljam> this is a dell aptop.... so I tried Fn switch and F2
[05:00] <nite_johnboy> Hi - I currently using AcidRip for backing up my movies - Are there other apps out there that would this easier or better ? ?
[05:00] <unop> Baatti, the error message is quite self explanatory
[05:00] <tritium> joljam: look again to see if that had any affect
[05:00] <Baatti> joljam I had trouble with my Atheros wireless drivers... I had to update the BLACKLIST file
[05:00] <joot> joljam: my last dell had a wireless switch
[05:00] <thiebaude> Anacranom: i dont have windows on my computer,:)
[05:00] <nite_johnboy> do this*
[05:00] <gaintsura> hey all, could someone help me configure sendmail and ldap for use as development of a website? I've got slapd installed and running and I've got sendmail installed, but I keep getting this (and I've never played with either of them beyond a preconfigured system with them installed) http://pastie.org/315909
[05:00] <Baatti> unop I think what I did was I didn't save my .sh file after I updated it and tried it again :P
[05:01] <Anacranom> PeskyJ, mindrape i am a n00b too, and if i were faced with this crap,,, i would have turned away by now, tru, maybe just me but 8.10 is a mess
[05:02] <mindrape> Anacranom: well I scrolled up and didn't see your issue...
[05:02] <mindrape> In general I think if you switch to Linux you have to manage expectations... hardware vendors haven't all released open source drivers so there is a lot of hacking that goes on.
[05:02] <Baatti> Anacranom: I'm digging 8.10 quite a lot right now
[05:02] <Anacranom> mindrape, not mine,, you are not looking
[05:02] <mindrape> I'd say Ubuntu is the easiest of the linuces to use...
[05:03] <jeebster> 8.10 kind of made some files that didn't exist (namely some x264.h from May which I don't recall installing), which made some errors while building mplayer - otherwise it's just been a bit weird :/
[05:03] <thiebaude> Anacranom: did you try 8.04LTS
[05:03] <Baatti> i'd completely agree with mindrape
[05:03] <mhall119> Anacranom: the only people that come on here are experts or people having trouble, so it's not exactly representative of the general Ubuntu user population
[05:03] <Daejeo> i want to install gnome desktop from ssh?/
[05:03] <jeebster> All in all - Ubuntu is an easy system to use :)
[05:03] <Daejeo> what should i type?
[05:03] <Baatti> hrm... not sure, but maybe sudo apt-get install gnome?
[05:03] <Genius314> Okay... my iPod's working now. Is there a way in Amarok to sync my entire collection with my iPod without making an "All Collection" playlist on it?
[05:03] <Anacranom> mhall119, thats the 1 thing i agree with
[05:03] <mhall119> Daejeo: is it an Ubuntu box?
[05:03] <Daejeo> yep
[05:04] <mindrape> I'd say in general Linux definitely has issues with hardware support for wireless cards.   I think it's down to system setups and hardware combinations glitching each other... sure windows probably handles more varied setups better but I think ubuntu does a good job handling a fairly wide variety too - I've installed it on 4 different machines so far and not had any serious problems, except with this printer, but that was a nightmare in windows too
[05:04] <tritium> PeskyJ: easy on the language, please
[05:04] <mhall119> Daejeo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will get you gnome plus some
[05:05] <jeebster> mindrape: Makes me think it's rather a driver issue, but my eeepc does get weird at times after coming out of hibernation
[05:05] <thiebaude> compare how long windows has been out compared to ubuntu
[05:05] <Baatti> mhall119: what about sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome ??would that work?
[05:05] <mhall119> Baatti: I don't think so
[05:05] <Gr33n3gg> sudo apt-get install gdm
[05:05] <mindrape> I haven't used Windows for over 5 yrs now.  Last install of Windows I had I got a Windows Update which completely obliterated my system.  Couldn't boot.
[05:05] <gaintsura> Anacranom: I knew there was a reason I wasn't going to upgrade to 8.10 yet.. something told me
[05:05] <Baatti> and think of all the ubuntu distros!
[05:05] <Baatti> mhall ok
[05:05] <PeskyJ> tritium: oh yeah :P didn't notice that
[05:05] <mindrape> In the past 5 yrs I've only rebooted for kernel upgrades...
[05:05] <Anacranom> thiebaude, i have used ubuntu since 6.10,,, and yes 8.04 is the best, PeskyJ i have 8.04 on 6 boxes and love it,,
[05:06] <tritium> PeskyJ: no worries ;)
[05:06] <wastrel> i like intrepid it works fine except for DVD's
[05:06] <Baatti> well 8.10 just barely broke out...we gotta give it a chance to clean up some bugs
[05:06] <wastrel> actually i don't like intrepid it won't play dvd's  - pointless
[05:06] <jeebster> Baatti: true
[05:06] <Baatti> although I haven't had any trouble with 8.10 yet
[05:06] <jeebster> wastrel: tried building mplayer yet?
[05:07] <Baatti> the only thing I've had trouble with is some apps through wine, but that'll happen anyway I'd expect
[05:07] <jeebster> apt-get build-dep mplayer
[05:07] <thiebaude> Anacranom: im only upgrading my 8.04LTs to the next LTS in 2010
[05:07] <gaintsura> Anacranom: same here, I love 8.04, I only go into windows for hardcore gaming, which isn't often, I'm just waiting for luvc to become more accessible by cameras and then I"m going to convert my wife's system to 8.04 or so
[05:07] <mindrape> wastrel - I'm sure we could fix it w about an hour of troubleshooting.  :)
[05:07] <Veinor> Is there any way for me to examine the memory of a currently-running process?
[05:07] <mindrape> wastrel - it was broken on my sisters laptop for about a month then she finally told me and I fixed it for her in 30 mins.
[05:07] <joot> Veiner: free -m
[05:08] <tritium> joljam: any update yet?
[05:08] <Anacranom> gaintsura, i play coh, starwars, and am working on splintercell
[05:08] <Baatti> veinor use your SYSTEM MONITOR
[05:08] <mindrape> joot - I believe he wants to examine the memory buffer itself.
[05:08] <mhall119> Veinor: memdump
[05:08] <Anacranom> gaintsura, all on linux and better
[05:08] <gaintsura> Anacranom: my system is very picky... it could also be that I don't really have much time to game, maybe 1 hour a week
[05:08] <joot> mindrape: My bad :-)
[05:08] <mhall119> Veinor: okay, what do you mean by "examine"?
[05:08] <Veinor> Like.
[05:08] <jeebster> wastrel: After getting the dependencies, just get the newest mplayer svn (multimedia apps tend to do no "stables" so it's a rule of thumb to get the newest svn) source and hit ./configure and make <3
[05:08] <mindrape> ie; the equivalent of SoftIce for Windows....
[05:08] <Veinor> I have a program that's using almost a gig of memory and I want to know what the heck it's loading in there
[05:08] <wastrel> jeebster: you've had success getting dvd playback working with that?    apt-get build-dep mplayer  and then pull the svn ?
[05:09] <Baatti> hrm
[05:09] <Baatti> veinor what program?
[05:09] <mhall119> Veinor: memdump will give you everything, then you'll have to weed it out from there
[05:09] <jeebster> I actually haven't tested the css stuff yet, but from all theory I should say it should work.
[05:09] <gaintsura> Anacranom: I work more than I play, have to.. got a tight deadline to hit, but stupid crap like what I'm with right now is the set backs, can't seem to get sendmail/ldap going
[05:09] <PeskyJ> maybe the hep system in ubuntu could set up an IRC connection for the vast majority of people who don't know about IRC to come here for help - mind you probably most people trying linux do know about it
[05:09] <Veinor> VASSAL
[05:09] <Veinor> dunno how to explain it
[05:09] <Baatti> omg
[05:09] <Baatti> what does memdump do?
[05:10] <Baatti> that was scary
[05:10] <Veinor> it's basically an onlien game engine in java
[05:10] <mindrape> haha
[05:10] <mindrape> Baatti - it dumps kernel memory.
[05:10] <mindrape> its probably going to look "scary"
[05:10] <jeebster> Also wastrel - you'll need subversion too to get the source
[05:10] <mhall119> Baatti: it dumps system memory contents to stdout
[05:10] <Baatti> mindrape so it just dumps all the kernal
[05:10] <Baatti> ok
[05:10] <thiebaude> Veinor: java games use alot of memory
[05:10] <Baatti> thats fine
[05:10] <Anacranom> gaintsura, u in 8.04 or 8.10?
[05:10] <Veinor> thiebaude: yes, but 1 GB? for Apples to Apples?
[05:10] <tritium> bezibaerch3n: punctuation is allowed in IRC.  You don't have to hit "enter" after each sentence.
[05:10] <mhall119> java uses a lot of memory
[05:10] <Veinor> When all of the card images combined are maybe 100 MB?
[05:10] <gaintsura> 8.04
[05:10] <thiebaude> i gb is way too much
[05:11] <thiebaude> 1gb
[05:11] <Baatti> java has to intepret bytecode into machinelanguage, then perform a task
[05:11] <Baatti> tons of memory
[05:11] <jeebster> wastrel: So you practically install the dependencies, subversion and make yourself a folder like Builds
[05:11] <gaintsura> ldap and sendmail were not setup until now, ldap got setup and partially removed sometime ago (I THINK)
[05:11] <Veinor> Yeah, but none of the other games I've ran on VASSAL are using 1 GB
[05:11] <mhall119> it's not the interpretation that takes up so much memory
[05:11] <mindrape> yeah, a single Java process can exceed that of an entire Oracle database... hehe.
[05:11] <jeebster> (where you'll store all of your built apps)
[05:11] <Anacranom> gaintsura, and  in evolution?
[05:11] <Baatti> but java is pretty portable
[05:11] <mhall119> Veinor: probably the game keeps loading the same thing, or not releasing things it doesn't need
[05:11] <om3> how can i install quake 4 from the cd
[05:12] <Veinor> yeah, basically.
[05:12] <gaintsura> no
[05:12] <gaintsura> from php
[05:12] <PeskyJ> om3: install wine first, then just put th eCD in and it should autorun
[05:12] <Baatti> so yeah, I found this really sweet Administrator Book for linux.... it's free and online...
[05:12] <mindrape> oh?
[05:12] <jeebster> wastrel: and after making the folder for specially built apps, you do "svn co svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/trunk mplayer" and it'll make a folder "mplayer" and take the newest source code there
[05:12] <Baatti> how can I get it put on the topic and the bot?
[05:12] <om3> wine
[05:12] <om3> wat version
[05:13] <gaintsura> Anacranom: I'm trying to send mail from a php site on my system. and heres the output.. http://pastie.org/315909
[05:13] <om3> ok thx
[05:13] <tritium> Baatti: that's not suitable for the channel topic
[05:13] <thiebaude> Baatti: you got a link?
[05:13] <jeebster> wastrel: After that, you go to the folder and write ./configure (it configures all kinds of stuff specifically for your system)
[05:13] <PeskyJ> om3: go to "Add/Remove" and search for "wine" then tick it and press apply changes
[05:13] <Baatti> http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
[05:13] <om3> and steam
[05:13] <thiebaude> thanks
[05:13] <jeebster> wastrel: And after that you write "make" in the folder and a process of five to twenty minutes should begin
[05:13] <om3> i got alot of game in steam
[05:13] <Veinor> hmm
[05:14] <om3> ok thx
[05:14] <jeebster> wastrel: After that you can try playing back a DVD with your own pretty and new mplayer by hitting ./mplayer in the folder
[05:14] <jeebster> :)
[05:14] <hacker__> Hi, I'm having upgrading issues: hardy > intrepid
[05:14] <Anacranom> gaintsura, that looks like a local issue,,,?
[05:14] <hacker__> ppc
[05:14] <gaintsura> yes it is
[05:14] <gaintsura> as the php site is also local
[05:15] <Baatti> hrm
[05:15] <Baatti> #away
[05:15] <Baatti> !away
[05:15] <Baatti> :(
[05:15] <PSiL0> hacker: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/10/22/network-upgrade-for-kubuntu-desktops-804-lts-810/
[05:15] <FloodBot2> Baatti: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:15] <PeskyJ> om3: not sure about steam.. you probably download the setup program from their site and just run it (also after wine is installed)
[05:15] <PSiL0> ?
[05:15] <Baatti> sorry floodbot
[05:15] <gaintsura> I'm using a sendmail php function to send mail to test if it works, but those system errors are preventing it from going through
[05:15] <Baatti> I forgot how to set my away status on here
[05:15] <tritium> Baatti: also, please see !enter
[05:15] <gaintsura> Baatti:  /away <message>
[05:15] <Baatti> !enter
[05:16] <Baatti> ok thanks
[05:16] <gaintsura> =)
[05:16] <jeebster> wastrel: if it in the end of building (make'ing) gives you an error about x264, just do "whereis x264" and you could find a x264.h file somewhere in /etc/includes. You go there and rename the file "x264.h.old" and ./configure and make again - should work :)
[05:17] <gaintsura> Anacranom: by the looks of it, it seems like either I didn't configure something right in the sendmail (which I don't know), or in the ldap config (which I also, don't know)
[05:17] <jeebster> (That is an error I got on 8.10 and a quick way of "repairing" it without even knowing what caused that old x264.h to come there D:)
[05:19] <bazhang> hacker__, what problems with upgrade to ppc intrepid? is it hanging at 55%?
[05:20] <Anacranom> gaintsura, well, it is within your local settings,,, without having access to that, which is not advisable, i am not sure how to help other than telling you to look it over, the local config
[05:20] <e\ectro_> why does it seem like the sound in intrepid isnt as loud anymore
[05:21] <Anacranom> gaintsura, what mailserver are you usig?
[05:21] <e\ectro_> my speakers are about 50% less than they were in Hardy
[05:21] <hubar_> Does WIFI work on thinkpad t61 with intrepid?
[05:21] <Anacranom> *using
[05:21] <e\ectro_> at max volume
[05:21] <bazhang> hubar_, what chipset
[05:21] <gaintsura> Anacranom: I've got access, don't worry about that, if you can help me fix it, I'll do it. What mailserver am I sending it to? is that what you mean?
[05:21] <mattgyver83> anybody know of a good virtual keyboard app?
[05:22] <hubar_> bazhang: hmm, I amnot sure,how do I find that out?
[05:22] <PeskyJ> e\ectro_: I noticed that to get the same percieved volume, in windows it is set to about 15% and in ubuntu at 85%
[05:22] <bazhang> hubar_, open a terminal and type lspci and look for it, or paste.ubuntu.com with it and give us the url
[05:23] <Anacranom> no gaintsura i was asking what sendmail you are trying to use
[05:23] <mhall119> mattgyver83: like an on screen keyboard?
[05:23] <wastrel> 3945abg <3
[05:23] <mattgyver83> sorry, wrong channel.
[05:23] <TeslaTony> What do I need to change in xorg.conf to make it so I can use quotation marks without the system trying to give me umlauts instead? Oh, and get my right alt key working
[05:23] <CuriosTiger> draft-n @ 5 GHz <3
[05:23] <e\ectro_> PeskyJ: I have it cranked to the MAX, and its not nearly as loud as it use to be.  I have to have it cranked just to hear it.  and alsamixer is showing 100%
[05:24] <scunizi> TeslaTony, maybe change the keyboard layout instead?
[05:24] <PeskyJ> e\ectro_: yeah, very odd
[05:24] <slide> Is the upgrade from gutsy to hardy a major upgrade? Earlier I tried upgrading my system from gutsy to hardy and then to intrepid but it failed horribly and I'm wondering if it was most likely the upgrade to intrepid that did it or hardy
[05:24] <JonathanElli1> Is there any point in keeping all the old kernels? I have about 9 in my boot menu. I guess the kernel has been upgraded many times but I am wondering why. The most recent one works so I guess I should delete the others?
[05:24] <bazhang> slide, was the gutsy to hardy upgrade hanging at configuring locales?
[05:24] <TeslaTony> scunizi: I am trying to get the keyboar to work properly across multiple accounts with three desktop environments
[05:25] <slide> bazhang, no, technically the upgrade all went fine, no errors or anything. but all my mail system stopped working
[05:25] <hubar_> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72719/
[05:25] <gaintsura> Anacranom: when I did sudo apt-get install sendmail, it downloaded these: http://pastie.org/315920
[05:25] <e\ectro_> PeskyJ: just fixed it
[05:25] <mhall119> JonathanElli1: I think they're going to start putting a cap on that
[05:25] <e\ectro_> raised PCM volume
[05:25] <P_Kable> Hello, anyone with dual nic on intrepid ???
[05:25] <LF|Irssi> TeslaTony: have you tried Synergy?
[05:25] <bazhang> JonathanElli1, may want to keep a couple older ones around just in case something like wireless stops working with a newer kernel, the rest you can delete
[05:25] <JonathanElli1> slide: When I upgraded from gutsy to hardy it went horribly wrong and I was advised to do a clean install. If you have your /home on a separate partition this is a lot easier
[05:25] <slide> ugh i dont want to have to reconfigure everything.....
[05:25] <scunizi> TeslaTony, so changing the keyboard in one account doesn't change it in any of the others?
[05:25] <Veinor> so is there any way i can use memdump to just look at the memory of a specific process?
[05:25] <joot> JonathanEllil: I tend to get rid of my old kernels once the latest one proves to meet my needs
[05:26] <TeslaTony> LF|Irssi: No. Whatś that?
[05:26] <JonathanElli1> slide: What will you need to reconfigure?
[05:26] <LF|Irssi> !Synergy
[05:26] <mhall119> Veinor: I don't know, try: man memdump
[05:26] <Anacranom> gaintsura, those look like update files,, not actuals...?
[05:26] <TeslaTony> scunizi: No. Not even remotely
[05:26] <LF|Irssi> hang on ill try to find a link or it might be in the repos too TeslaTony
[05:26] <keith1122> is there any way to get FL 8 to work on ubuntu
[05:26] <slide> JonathanElli1, this is a server so, all my mail setup and web stuff
[05:26] <tritium> LF|Irssi: it is in the repos
[05:27] <tritium> !info synergy
[05:27] <LF|Irssi> ok ty tritium
[05:27] <hubar_> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72719/ is output for lspci -vvnn
[05:27] <gaintsura> The following extra packages will be installed: liblockfile1 procmail sendmail-base sendmail-bin sendmail-cf sensible-mda
[05:27] <tritium> !info quicksynergy
[05:27] <slide> all i really need is php5.2.4, is there any way to get that package in gutsy?
[05:27] <gaintsura> should I install the recommended and suggested packages it printed with the apt-get?
[05:27] <JonathanElli1> slide: If you just want to keep the same applications, just make a list of the ones you have installed after you did the previous install. Then you can sudo apt-get install <paste the list here>
[05:27] <JonathanElli1> slide: Wouldnt all your settings be in /home anyway?
[05:27] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=875117 hubar_ check this
[05:28] <P_Kable> nobody with dual NIC in his system with intrepid ?  Because that isnt even remotely my issue
[05:28] <mhall119> P_Kable: or just the only one with two nics
[05:28] <tritium> JonathanElli1: no, system-wide settings are in /etc
[05:28] <scunizi> TeslaTony, don't know if this will help or not but seems right for investigation.. http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.9.0/doc/html/xorg.conf.5.html
[05:28] <Anacranom> hrmpf gaintsura ok, i'm done, gonna crash, if no help or success by tomorrow, look me up at #seaphor, sorry, i gtg
[05:29] <TeslaTony> scunizi: Ah...that is at least a start
[05:29] <slide> you mean /etc? well, that may be the problem, the dovecot stopped working after the upgrade so i dont really want to upgrade again :(
[05:29] <JonathanElli1> slide: Well in that case, if it aint broken ...
[05:29] <LF|Irssi> TeslaTony: I thought you were asking about using multiple keyboards, guess i misunderstood you sorry :)
[05:29] <slide> right, i just need php 5.2.4
[05:29] <scunizi> TeslaTony, it's actually part of the x.org man page.. might be in your system currently with man xorg
[05:29] <mhall119> slide: what version do you have?
[05:29] <slide> 5.2.3
[05:30] <JonathanElli1> slide: I just realised of course the upgrade has broken it. Can you go back to gutsy if that worked to your satisfaction
[05:30] <TeslaTony> LF|Irssi: No worries. Multiple desktop environments. Multiple accounts. One computer.
[05:30] <slide> JonathanElli1, yes i restored from a backup so im back to gutsy
[05:30] <mhall119> slide: is that what's in gutsy?
[05:30] <slide> yes
[05:30] <mhall119> did you try enabling backports repository?
[05:31] <slide> i think it is, let me double
[05:31] <JonathanElli1> slide: I am struggling to see the reason to upgrade my system every six months. I haven't bothered with intrepid and I dont see the point. If someone can educate me I would be grateful
[05:31] <hubar_> bazhang: one more question. :) How do I know what module the "hardware drivers" is enabling?
[05:31] <mhall119> JonathanElli1: if the upgrade has nothing you want, don't upgrade
[05:32] <bazhang> hubar_, did you blacklist the driver like in that post?
[05:32] <slide> mhall119, yea, its not in backports apparently either
[05:32] <tritium> JonathanElli1: sounds like you're a good candidate to stick with LTS releases.
[05:32] <^Cheeky> hello iam trying to follow this tutorial, and when i downloaded tsMuxer and tired to extract it says its not a tar file ?
[05:32] <hubar_> bazhang: not yet, I am just curious of how to know that.
[05:32] <mhall119> slide, you can see if you can find a .deb for that version
[05:32] <^Cheeky> i used archive manager and i got that error
[05:32] <scunizi> JonathanD, if you're running LTS and it's working fine you're good to go for some time.. I upgraded this time because intrepid works with my motherboard and hardy didn't.. otherwise I'd still be on hardy.
[05:32] <Spanglegluppet> hey, my Firefox in Ubuntu 8.10 is playing up, can anyone help me fix it?
[05:33] <joot> JonathanEllil: I think you dont need to upgrade unless you want to be up with the latest version Hardy is a lts so it has support for ages yet
[05:33] <bazhang> hubar_, it will enable the one you need
[05:33] <hubar_> bazhang: I am using ndipwrapper for my wireless connection.
[05:33] <bazhang> hubar_, but need to blacklist the other one
[05:33] <JonathanElli1> bazhang: Is there any reason why things should suddenly stop working with the most recent kernel? Just asking so I can clarify whether I need to keep the old kernels
[05:33] <tritium> Spanglegluppet: "playing up"?
[05:33] <hubar_> bazhang: Do you know how I can know what module that is?
[05:33] <fryguy> JonathanElli1: what things
[05:33] <slipdipper> ok, so im pretty positive that these wireless broadcom drivers are the cause of my intermitten latency issues.. how can i test this, i see the latency in icmp response times, and via the sniffer, but is there a way i can put the driver into a debug mode or something that will help me identify if its freaking out? (im next to positive its not related to wireless interference, etc..)
[05:33] <om3> why i can install punkbuster
[05:33] <om3> from quake 4
[05:34] <bazhang> JonathanElli1, just as a precaution; no known problems here (though best to play it safe and keep a couple)
[05:34] <Spanglegluppet> tritium: yeah, it's acting strange. for example, the url bar doesn't show any text, all of my bookmarks have disappeared, and the loading bar won't appear on the status bar
[05:34] <Neo_Painwithin> oops
[05:34] <om3> i can't
[05:34] <om3> i mean
[05:34] <bazhang> hubar_, it is the one that is needed for that nic
[05:34] <JonathanElli1> fryguy: nothing has stopped working - hypothetical question in response to bazhang's previous answer
[05:34] <bazhang> om3 dont use the enter key after one or two words.
[05:34] <tritium> Spanglegluppet: ah, I didn't fully understand the expression (new to me!).
[05:34] <slipdipper> iwpriv eth1
[05:34] <slipdipper> oops
[05:34] <NeO_Painwithin> im on Ubuntu riow so its alittle different
[05:34] <almostdvs> is there a way i can make the "scale" compiz plugin work on a toggle, and so i don't have to hold down the alt key?
[05:35] <om3> why
[05:35] <Spanglegluppet> tritium: that's fine. any idea what's going on?
[05:35] <tritium> Spanglegluppet: no, not sure.  Sorry.
[05:35] <bazhang> om3 because this is a busy channel and it makes it hard to read
[05:35] <fryguy> almostdvs: what is in the configuration options is what is available for the plugin, there's no hidden features.  The answer to your question is yes, it's right in the configuration
[05:35] <NeO_Painwithin> hmmm
[05:35] <bazhang> almostdvs, that would best be answered in #compiz-fusion
[05:35] <JonathanElli1> !firefox > Spanglegluppet
[05:36] <mhall119> almostdvs: I have scale mapped to a screen corner, that works
[05:36] <JonathanElli1> joot: Thanks. What does lts mean by the way?
[05:36] <fryguy> JonathanElli1: long term support
[05:36] <joot> JonathanEllil: Log term
[05:36] <joot> long
[05:37] <almostdvs> fryguy: then maybe the terminology is what is tripping me up, what is that option?
[05:37] <JonathanElli1> So Hardy was marked as LTS but Gutsy wasnt? Gutsy was my first linux distro so I am a bit of a newbie
[05:37] <mhall119> fryguy: the initiate keyboard combo only keeps scale active as long as you hold the combo
[05:37] <fryguy> almostdvs: no idea, and i don't have a compiz install in front of me to check
[05:37] <fryguy> mhall119: there's more ways to enable the plugin than a keyboard combo
[05:38] <mhall119> fryguy: yes, I already suggested one
[05:38] <fryguy> mhall119: so why are you informing me of this?
[05:38] <mhall119> but the exact solution he was looking for is not one of them
[05:38] <mhall119> fryguy: because your answer to almostdvs was inaccurate
[05:38] <JonathanElli1> joot: So Hardy was marked as LTS but Gutsy wasnt? Gutsy was my first linux distro so I am a bit of a newbie
[05:38] <fryguy> mhall119: the solution he was looking for was "a way for scale to work on a toggle, so he doesn't have to hold down a key"
[05:39] <tritium> JonathanElli1: yes, Hardy is LTS.  Gutsy was not.
[05:39] <Baatti> should I get heirloom-mailx or mailutils?
[05:39] <LF|Irssi> JonathanElli1: i believe its every other upgrade is LTS
[05:39] <joot> JonathanEllil: yes you are correct  there will be another lts distro but I cannot recall when
[05:39] <mhall119> fryguy: maybe I misunderstood him, but it sounded like he still wanted to use the keyboard
[05:39] <slipdipper> AAAA
[05:40] <joot> JonathanEllil: there the distro beginning with J will be lts
[05:40] <JonathanElli1> joot and tritium: Thanks. So are the other distros interim bugfixes then or what?
[05:40] <almostdvs> joot: jaunty jackalope?
[05:40] <bazhang> joot, thats not right
[05:40] <cowo-> pemalu
[05:40] <Baatti> which is better: mailutil or heirloom-mailx?
[05:40] <Spanglegluppet> !firefox
[05:41] <joot> bahzang is that not every alternate
[05:41] <fryguy> JonathanElli1: and updates to programs, new versions and such
[05:41] <tritium> JonathanElli1: the "distro" is Ubuntu.  That does not change.  The releases are the changing element.
[05:41] <bazhang> joot, no
[05:41] <almostdvs> i'm pretty sure jaunty jackalope is not lts
[05:41] <bazhang> its not
[05:42] <JonathanElli1> tritium: Sorry. I knew about the distro/release difference, just typed the wrong thing! My poor tired brain
[05:42] <LF|Irssi> kinda name is jaunty jackalope?
[05:42] <joot> bahzang: I should have stuck to my not sure answer
[05:42] <babilonia> hello
[05:42] <babilonia> gays
[05:42] <LF|Irssi> hey now be nice
[05:42] <wastrel> jeebster:  --disable-x264-lavc   in configure is probably a better way to handle that.
[05:42] <fryguy> LF|Irssi: an alliterative description of an animal that starts with the letter that comes after I, which was the name used in the current version
[05:42] <bazhang> babilonia, do you have an ubuntu support question
[05:43] <tritium> JonathanElli1: no worries.  :)
[05:43] <fryguy> LF|Irssi: well, not interative, but the adjective starts with the same letter
[05:43] <fryguy> gah *alliterative"
[05:43] <jeebster> wastrel: Maybe, but really... The file shouldn't even be there, I had only updated to 8.10 and hadn't installed any x264 package D:
[05:43] <tritium> babilonia: wrong channel for that
[05:44] <jeebster> Which is why I promptly seeked it and tried if "removing" the file would help
[05:44] <wos> !tv >me
[05:44] <JonathanElli1> fryguy: Does that imply that intrepid is less stable than hardy? It would be helpful to point that out on the get ubuntu page. I just gave a frustrated vista user an intrepid livecd to play with to see if she liked it. Should I recommend she installs hardy instead?
[05:44] <fryguy> JonathanElli1: no
[05:45] <wastrel> i have x264 packages installed
[05:45] <scunizi> Which restricted nvidia driver works best with the 8000 series cards? the 177 (latest in ubuntu) or 171?  Or am I better off getting the beta of 180 direct from nvidia? I'm using 177 with very poor performance.
[05:45] <werdnum> Is it possible to suspend/resume with proprietary nvidia drivers?
[05:45] <tritium> scunizi: we never recommend non ubuntu-packaged drivers
[05:45] <gavagai> werdnum, yes
[05:45] <JonathanElli1> fryguy: So I am still not clear on the difference between the lts RELEASES (I thank you!) and the non-lts ones
[05:45] <bazhang> scunizi, did you check hardware drivers? they say which is recommended
[05:45] <fryguy> JonathanElli1: LTS releases get security updates for a longer period than non-lts releases
[05:46] <scunizi> bazhang, hardware drivers listed two.. 177 was recommended.. but screen draws are s.l.o.w.
[05:46] <fryguy> JonathanElli1: during the period that both are getting security updates (a couple of years), there is no difference between something labeled LTS and something not
[05:46] <werdnum> gavagai: sudo hibernate-disk doesn't seem to work properly, I get the error "Some modules failed to unload: nvidia / hibernate-disk: Aborting suspend due to errors in ModulesUnloadBlacklist (use --force to override)."
[05:46] <frybye> JonathanElli1: the main difference is that cannonical supports the long term support releases for a longer period or... (more of interest to corperations and firms I guess...)
[05:46] <joot> JonathanEllil: I have had some problems installing 8.10 on older computers with shared memory video cards and gone back to hardy for those but I think on a later macine it is installing ok
[05:46] <slipdipper> so no one has any idea about debugging those broadcom sta drivers?
[05:46] <bazhang> scunizi, what were the other choices? the 173? did you try any of the others?
[05:46] <JonathanElli1> fryguy: How is it decided which releases are lts? Sounds like someone installing intrepid would need to upgrade earlier thatn someone on hardy then
[05:47] <joot> machine
[05:47] <fryguy> JonathanElli1: it's determined in advance, on the roadmap of releases.  releases are planned out several in advance, with a schedule
[05:47] <JonathanElli1> fryguy: So for a newbie it is best to go for an lts release then?
[05:47] <scunizi> bazhang, 173 I think was the other one.. I'm on a different computer now so I can't check.. I've got a new motherboard with an 8200 card and chipset in it. (amd64 am2+)
[05:48] <fryguy> JonathanElli1: no
[05:48] <venz> anyone know how to fix this :
[05:48] <venz> Received disconnect from <IP_ADDRESS>: 2: Too many authentication failures for jason
[05:48] <JonathanElli1> because?
[05:48] <fryguy> because there is no difference between the releases for a few yearrs
[05:48] <bazhang> JonathanElli1, newer kernel has more features and support
[05:48] <fryguy> JonathanElli1: or in my case, a kernel that renders the system unusable
[05:49] <JonathanElli1> OK. Thanks all. That makes a little more sense.
[05:49] <yao_ziyuan1> ubuntu is fragile now
[05:49] <yao_ziyuan1> try:
[05:49] <yao_ziyuan1> sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[05:49] <yao_ziyuan1> and see if you can easily recover