[03:46] <ryanakca> jbu:  that's for pentium
[03:46] <bl4cktone> it was Klibido
[03:47] <jbu> ok thanks all
[03:47] <quux> gack, sorry. wrong channel, short attention span!
[03:47] <tjb891> is having a electrostatic air purifier within 3 feet of my computer bad for it, it makes the speakers emit faint noises when they are on but idle?
[03:47] <ryanakca> i386-686 is pentium
[03:47] <bl4cktone> a binary downloader
[03:47] <bimberi> quux: lol
[03:47] <webhed> Dr_Willis - thanks
[03:47] <Dr_willis> tjb891,  i saw a case mod that used one of those as a main cooling fan.
[03:48] <ryanakca> tjb891: I wouldn't recommend it... I've zapped a few HD with static... but I can't say more than that...
[03:48] <Dr_willis> tjb891,  but theres the air moving parts.. then the electrostatic parts..  :)
[03:48] <Dr_willis> id move it to the other side of the room.
[03:48] <Dr_willis> clean it while you are moving it. those things get filthy fast
[03:48] <tjb891> ok
[03:48] <bimberi> home hints with Dr_willis :)
[03:48] <tjb891> ill turn it off a couple hours before i open my case
[03:48] <ryanakca> tjb891: if it's humid, it shouldn't be too much a problem... humidity cuts down on static... if it's dry... watch out :)
[03:49] <tjb891> thx
[03:49] <lumgwada> Hello I use gnome with a dual screen setup, I would like to set up one screen specifically for monitoring log tails  with all windows that are opened/moved to this screen become visible on all workspaces (preferably non focusable with alt+tab)... can any expert users suggest a method of achieving this?... or any other productivity tips? Any ideas would be great.
[03:49] <Dr_willis> bimberi,  wife has one and she smokes like crazy... that thing looke like it has road tar on it. :)
[03:49] <TrevorT> and dry skin?
[03:49] <bimberi> hehe
[03:49] <TrevorT> due to lack of humidity..
[03:49] <TrevorT> and also working with cement, and drywall without gloves
[03:50] <TrevorT> and quite a bit of electrical and cat6
[03:50] <ryanakca> writing on a chalkboard, my mom is a teacher and allwais has dry hands... and we're offtopic :)
[03:50] <heaths> teachers still have chalkboards?
[03:50] <TrevorT> ugh that would suck
[03:50] <indref> Bye  :D
[03:50] <Dr_willis> The New Ubuntu Line of Skn Care products!
[03:50] <bimberi> lol
[03:51] <TrevorT> Penguin Lotion
[03:51] <TrevorT> made from 100$
[03:51] <TrevorT> err %
[03:51] <TrevorT> you know
[03:51] <Dr_willis> Pengunlinan
[03:51] <TrevorT> hahahaha
[03:51] <Dr_willis> Lanalon
[03:51] <Dr_willis> whatever that *#*@* stuff they get from lambs wool is.
[03:51] <TrevorT> I'll take it
[03:51] <TrevorT> if it'll heal my wonded wannabe girl hands
[03:52] <Dr_willis> Its supposed to be good stuff.
[03:52] <TrevorT> We've got lots of stuff from bed bath and beyond that I need to take advantage of
[03:52] <heaths> Bag Balm
[03:52] <Dr_willis> The latest additions to our range are Lanolin Oil and Lanolin Hand Lotion with Manuka Honey,
[03:52] <heaths> ftw
[03:53] <TrevorT> some cuticle treatment stuff too, I didn't bother trimming my fingernails or tonails for a month because of all the work on the office here
[03:53] <TrevorT> but is now finished so I'm slowly starting to resume normal living practices
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Lanolin, also called, Adeps Lanae, wool wax, wool fat, or wool grease, a greasy yellow substance from wool-bearing animals, acts as a skin ointment, water-proofing wax, and raw material (such as in shoe polish).
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> my ubuntu is all messed up the resolution :(
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> it has small dots on it
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> and its not clear
[03:54] <heaths> blink more
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> seems to be 256mb the color
[03:54] <jimmy_neutron> i need some help with ssh
[03:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> i tried reseting the xserver
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> i guess it didn't work
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> 833 people in here wow
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> someone help me please?
[03:55] <ethos_> god that sucks, I just went though all that.   And the sad thing is, I got it to work, but I have no idea what I did....
[03:55] <TrevorT> 833 new possibilities
[03:55] <jimmy_neutron> i can connect to ssh via putty. but how can i forward ports like port 80, 443, 8080, etc through the tunnel?
[03:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> i am on alaptop
[03:56] <TrevorT> jimmy_neutron: in the settings thing
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> what do i do?
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> :|
[03:56] <TrevorT> err
[03:56] <TrevorT> privmsg
[03:56] <Xenguy> jimmy_neutron: read an article or two ?
[03:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> i guess ill try reseting the xserver for the 10th time
[03:57] <TrevorT> Xenguy: I privmsg'd him
[03:57] <jimmy_neutron> i want to have the ability to use unsecure wifi aps and connect to my network
[03:57] <Xenguy> !pm
[03:57] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[03:57] <Xenguy> shit - still worked :P
[03:57] <heaths> Unix: have you tried anything aside from restarting X?
[03:57] <jimmy_neutron> Xenguy: yea. thats how i setup ssh
[03:57] <Unix_n_Coffee> jimmy_netron you have to know the networks name
[03:58] <TrevorT> hey xen guy, do you know if I can possibly apt-get dist-upgrade to get 64bit ubuntu on here?
[03:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> well not exactly
[03:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[03:58] <Xenguy> TrevorT: don't run 64, no idea
[03:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> see the icon on the top
[03:58] <TrevorT> cool thanks
[03:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> with 2 computers
[03:58] <TrevorT> me?
[03:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> haha no jimmy
[03:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> guys my graphics hard isnt working! was working fine for a year
[03:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> i am on a laptop
[03:59] <Unix_n_Coffee> :(
[03:59] <TrevorT> bah, I'll just get the dapper 64 cd
[03:59] <saveferris> yo
[03:59] <saveferris> chris
[03:59] <TrevorT> before I do though, anyone know of any X/fglrx problems with it?
[03:59] <saveferris> yo
[03:59] <saveferris> chris
[04:00] <nirvanax4894> yeah
[04:00] <TrevorT> such as
[04:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> i was in recovery console
[04:00] <Red-Sox> How come scrolling no longer works on my touchpad?
[04:00] <Dr_willis> I dont see much point in using the 64bit disrtos at this time
[04:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> REd-Sox xserver problem?
[04:00] <TrevorT> Red-Sox: Synaptics hot corner?
[04:00] <malcolm> I've installed jre, and limewire on ubuntu, but when i go to run limewire it tells me that I don't have jre
[04:00] <Red-Sox> ungratefuljoint: I don't hink so Trevinho Yes
[04:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> err my graphics !
[04:01] <Red-Sox> malcolm: Give Frostwire a shot <3
[04:01] <TrevorT> Red-Sox: give me your email and I'll send you my xorg..
[04:01] <Red-Sox> malcolm: There is a .deb package available at the website
[04:01] <TrevorT> you should also have xorg-driver-synaptics or something to that effect
[04:01] <Red-Sox> Trevinho: PM?
[04:01] <TrevorT> ya
[04:01] <jimmy_neutron> anyone?
[04:02] <TrevorT> dapper getting replaced soon?
[04:02] <Red-Sox> TrevorT: did you get it?
[04:02] <Dr_willis> !release
[04:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[04:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO where are when i need you
[04:02] <Red-Sox> oh TrevorT you need to indentify
[04:02] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, at work till next week
[04:02] <TrevorT> ohhh
[04:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO could you help me here, these kids are being mean! :P
[04:03] <TrevorT> thank you
[04:03] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, whats wrong?
[04:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> I have a server problem!
[04:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> I have a xserver problem!
[04:03] <TrevorT> identified (+e)
[04:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> my grpahics are set seems like to be 256mb
[04:04] <Unix_n_Coffee> shut be bits like 32 bit
[04:04] <Unix_n_Coffee> shud*
[04:04] <MaxL> Um, will a ATI Radeon X700 Pro 256MB AGP Video Card work in Ubuntu Dapper Drake, or any Linux for that matter?
[04:04] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, what you said makes no sense...
[04:04] <DBO> MaxL, yes
[04:04] <MaxL> DBO, any tweaking? And whats the deal with drivers?
[04:04] <jimmy_neutron> i have an exsiting ssh serv and client is putty on winxp. how can i frwd ports like HTTP traffic through the ssh tunnel
[04:05] <wick2o> hello, i have a very stupid question....i did a rm -rf on a folder that seemed to have a link to my /var/log folder
[04:05] <DBO> !fglrx MaxL
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fglrx MaxL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <wick2o> if i (as root) recreate the /var/log folder
[04:05] <DBO> !fglrx > MaxL
[04:05] <powerbook> how would I go about installing apache2 php and mysql on ubuntu dapper
[04:05] <wick2o> will the logs start to regen themselves?
[04:05] <ethos_> maxl, yes It will I JUST got mine to work....but I could not tell you how to go about it.  But it does work
[04:05] <wick2o> powerbook apt-get -y install mysqld apache2 php
[04:05] <wick2o> or use symantic (sp?)
[04:05] <MaxL> ethos_ so it takes some work to get it to work in linux?
[04:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok DBO, i wanted to get cedgea working, and so i fiqured to install more resolutions to make some games work, i then reseted the xserver with the commands and now i am left with small dots on my screen not clear!
[04:06] <powerbook> wick20: I don't want to screw it up, what packages exactly would I need to install (all of them)
[04:06] <wick2o> powerbook use symantic
[04:06] <wick2o> look down the list, pick the versions you need
[04:06] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, what video card?
[04:06] <wick2o> click install and away it goes
[04:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> nvidia gogo 700
[04:06] <Unix_n_Coffee> i am not sure ill look
[04:06] <ethos_> ya it deffinetly works, but i'm such a noob with this stuff, I just crashed my way through it.......BUT like I said it does work, and I have the exact same specs as you
[04:07] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, can I see your xorg.conf please in pastebin
[04:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> Quadro4 700 GoGL
[04:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok
[04:07] <jimmy_neutron> anyone?
[04:07] <wick2o> powerbook: http://www.linux-fuer-alle.de/doc_show.php?docid=43
[04:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> got the link to pastebin?
[04:07] <DBO> !paste > Unix_n_Coffee
[04:07] <wick2o> .sorry didnt realize that was in german
[04:07] <Dr_willis> jimmy_neutron,  time to google for a ssh/windows guide or 2 i think.
[04:07] <powerbook> :o
[04:08] <len> !xinit
[04:08] <ubotu> xinit: X server initialisation tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 144 kB
[04:08] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25034/ :)
[04:08] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO i know to change nvidia to nv
[04:08] <ungratefuljoint> lol i installed wine, and the pokerstars windows client that my mate used before i forced ubuntu onto his laptop works fine :)
[04:09] <powerbook> what packages are needed for isntalling apache2 php and mysql
[04:09] <wick2o> powerbook: i told you
[04:09] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[04:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> did nothing
[04:10] <wick2o> Symantic Package manager
[04:10] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, ok what monitor do you have?
[04:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> says nothing
[04:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> i am on a laptop
[04:10] <ungratefuljoint> is there information on installing codecs for all differnet packages, ie mpeg1 -2 mp4 mp3 divx xvid, in a system like fashion so that all packages can use them.....
[04:11] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, oh this is going to be fun, which laptop?
[04:11] <Unix_n_Coffee> Dell precision m50
[04:11] <Red-Sox> TrevorT: Check your PM?
[04:11] <bimberi> ubotu tell ungratefuljoint about restrictedformats
[04:11] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO ;) you know what i was thinking maybe now
[04:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> maybe i can use my old ubuntu's xorg configuration?
[04:12] <Lam_> i used to be able to hover my mouse over music files and they would automatically play. now they don't do that anymore. why? :P
[04:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> for breezy bagger?
[04:12] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, if you wanna try go ahead
[04:12] <heaths> sweet ubuntu installed in vmware with no tweaking at all
[04:12] <Flannel> !tell Lam_ about mp3
[04:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> but its a different laptop ...
[04:12] <Flannel> Lam_: on that page (restricted formats) theres instructions on getting the hover preview thing working
[04:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> :| only problem
[04:12] <d3v1ant0n3> Hellos. Is there any way of making panels the bottom layer on a screen (So windows float over them rather than under) on GNOME?
[04:13] <DBO> Unix_n_Coffee, your monitor range probably needs to be improved
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok
[04:13] <DBO> check the ranges on your old xorg.conf
[04:13] <Lam_> Flannel:  neat. thanks a lot
[04:13] <OmniD> hellooo #ubuntu I was wondering how to get the controller device working
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> chris@chris-laptop:~$ sudo gedit
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> GTK Accessibility Module initialized
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> application finalize called
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> err
[04:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> wont load
[04:14] <powerbook> Should I install php5 or php4? (I remember reading something about problems with php4?)
[04:14] <Flannel> powerbook: not that I'm aware of, you might try ##php if youre worried about it
[04:14] <crimsun> powerbook: the former
[04:14] <powerbook> php4? crimsun?
[04:15] <Philip5>  i'm having a strange install problem with php and apache2 on ubuntu... i have apt-get and installed them both and also used a2enmod to enable php5 module (also installed with apt) but when i click on a php page on my server it wants to be downloaded
[04:16] <AtKaaZ> hi, can one play two audio streams from console ? ie. mp3blaster and sox's "play" (or ie. two mp3s at once, in console, not in X)
[04:16] <`paul> my firefox crashes evrytime with a "Bus error".... is this a bug or sumthin?
[04:16] <Philip5> apache say that he have loaded the php5 module when i restart it. and the mimetype is also set
[04:18] <skaller> hi, I'm upstream author of 'felix' and would like some advice how to link Launchpad to upstream bug tracker on sourceforge
[04:18] <Skarr> OK , I installed ntgdisk and ndiswrapper and then I made a new driver and got the .inf file but it says that I don't have the hardware
[04:19] <AbortD> can someone help me im getting a error in amarok it says
[04:19] <Flannel> Philip5: double check that the addTypes are in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf
[04:19] <AbortD> The Script 'Default' exited with error code: 127
[04:19] <bimberi> skaller: hi, give the #launchpad channel a try for that one
[04:19] <hype> hi
[04:19] <skaller> thanks
[04:19] <AbortD> Details: /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory
[04:20] <Philip5> Flannel: they are
[04:20] <`paul> my firefox crashes evrytime with a "Bus error" pls help
[04:20] <bimberi> skaller: np :)
[04:20] <Flannel> Philip5: and the php.conf looks normal?
[04:20] <Skarr> OK , I installed ntgdisk and ndiswrapper and then I made a new driver and got the .inf file but it says that I don't have the hardware
[04:20] <Philip5> Flannel: yes
[04:20] <hype> just one question i plan to install Edgy on a new partition. Is it safe to keep my actual /home? (knowing lots of apps of edgy are different from dapper)
[04:21] <Flannel> hype: #ubuntu+1
[04:21] <hype> soz
[04:21] <foo> How can I get gnucash working on ubuntu? ubuntu has 1.8
[04:21] <Skarr> ...
[04:22] <Philip5> Flannel: normal for php5.conf i hope is just having the addtypes
[04:22] <bimberi> foo: install that then, or are you looking for 2.0?
[04:23] <foo> bimberi: Looking to get 2.0 working if I can
[04:24] <Skarr> Can anyone help me with it?
[04:24] <Flannel> Philip5: yeah, and you're sure you got all three packages?
[04:25] <Philip5> Flannel: what three are you think of? apache, mod_php5 and?
[04:25] <bimberi> foo: hm, unless there is a dapper backport available you can either wait for (or use the beta of) edgy or backport it yourself
[04:25] <sproingie> hype: it's safe insofar as nothing will screw up the packages.  if anything acts funny though, you might have to knock out old files under your old ~/.gnome2
[04:26] <sproingie> aaaand he's gone
[04:26] <foo> bimberi: eh, I'll just use 1.8 I uguess
[04:26] <THX-1138> Did anyone else hear that? - Orc on the loose. - see you later and THANK YOU.
[04:28] <Philip5> Flannel: works now... some stange way it was a firefoxproblem.... if i flushed the cache it worked
[04:28] <Philip5> Flannel: thans anyway
[04:28] <Arrick> hey guys and gals, what is a good CD burnign Application for Ubuntu Breezy?
[04:28] <Flannel> Philip5: hmm, that is odd.
[04:28] <Philip5> Flannel: very
[04:29] <ungrateful-joint> is there information on installing codecs for all differnet packages, ie mpeg1 -2 mp4 mp3 divx xvid, in a system like fashion so that all packages can use them.....
[04:30] <ArrenLex> !codecs
[04:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:30] <Luke> Arrick: nautilus can burn CDs
[04:30] <ungrateful-joint> ubotu, thank you
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <Arrick> Luke, is it in there by default?
[04:30] <powerbook> I just installed apache2 php and mysql, what is my mysql password?
[04:30] <joe__> hey, sound doesn't work on my 386 kernel partition but it does work on my amd64 partition, why?
[04:31] <ungrateful-joint> oh sh*t what a noob i am lol. ArrenLex thank you. lol
[04:31] <ArrenLex> No worries. =P
[04:31] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Trying to compile an app and it seems that  X11/Intrinsic.h  is missing.. Cant seem to findit anywhere.. forums mention others with similer issue.. but no fix.
[04:31] <Dr_willis> or am i missing somtning here.
[04:32] <ArrenLex> Willis: do you have xlibs-dev installed?
[04:32] <ArrenLex> Willis: specifically libxt-dev?
[04:32] <boris55> any ubuntu developers, here? I have a question.
[04:33] <ArrenLex> Willis: when you can't find files for compile time, pacakges.ubuntu.com is your best friend: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=Intrinsic.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[04:33] <ArrenLex> !ask
[04:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:33] <boris55> why doesn't ubuntu come with setserial?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  i thought i did.. checking again
[04:34] <ArrenLex> boris: I'm guessing few people have serial ports anymore?
[04:34] <boris55> I have a modem that uses irq 169 and it's not recognzed until I use setserial
[04:34] <boris55> I still use dialup.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> libxt-dev Hmm lets check on that.
[04:34] <boris55> live way out in the country. high speed will be here in 10 years.
[04:34] <Beawolfe> can someone tell me how to get a par2 file to verify or work in the GUI?
[04:35] <ArrenLex> boris: you're the first person I've talked to in four years using dial-up. It's really not a popular request. It's removed to avoid bloat.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> libxt-dev aha - missing that one...
[04:35] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:35] <bimberi> boris55: setserial is on the CD, just not installed by default
[04:35] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis: told you so. =P
[04:35] <boris55> oh.. how do I find it on the cd?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  well lets see if that fixed it..
[04:36] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  :P theres about 4 questions like that in the forums as well.
[04:36] <bimberi> boris55: pool/main/s/setserial
[04:36] <Dr_willis> I just need to  apt-get install *-dev
[04:36] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis: that is a BAD idea.
[04:36] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis: you do that, you better have a terabyte hard drive.
[04:36] <bimberi> boris55: or add the CD as a repository and Synaptic will find it
[04:36] <heaths> lol
[04:36] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  :) close to it
[04:37] <heaths> won't be mising libraries though:)
[04:37] <boris55> nice.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Gotta compile the latest VICE !
[04:37] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis: why? xD I had ten operating systems installed, 15 partitions, on my 40GB on my old computer, and was not pressed for space.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> and gotta try out the new gnome interface.. Lol
[04:37] <boris55> ok, I'll reinstall tomorrow.  I read the official ubuntu book. It almost made me cry.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  Emulators mainly :P
[04:38] <Dr_willis> I got 6000+ C64 games right now to look through
[04:38] <ArrenLex> Ah.
[04:38] <Dr_willis> 6000 c64 games = 412mb..
[04:38] <Dr_willis> LOL!
[04:38] <ArrenLex> Ah. xD
[04:38] <boris55> cannot believe how quickly the ubuntu community has reached critical mass.
[04:39] <Rookie-> good for linux ...
[04:39] <silvertip257> is sethk active @ this hour?
[04:39] <Zaxch> hey :p
[04:39] <heaths> i can't believe how many questions i've seen answered in the last 30 minutes
[04:39] <Dr_willis> boris55,  and they all come in here asking the same 10 questions... :P
[04:39] <ArrenLex> boris: it's a newbie distribution. Attractive to the "hating windows is cool" crowd.
[04:39] <silvertip257> heaths here's another one
[04:40] <silvertip257> heaths if i have a live CD for ubuntu that successfully boots up & runs
[04:40] <psylocybe> debian rlz :D
[04:40] <boris55> same 10 questions? like what for example?
[04:40] <ArrenLex> Debian all the way!
[04:40] <Admiral_Chicago> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:40] <heaths> i have to say as far as out of the box installation (vmware at least) that was simple
[04:40] <silvertip257> could the MBR be bad so that when i install it it would not boot the drive at all
[04:41] <silvertip257> heaths the past few things i said are my questions for you
[04:41] <jackson> to where is the repo sun jre 5.0 installed? I can't find it in /usr/lib/
[04:41] <ArrenLex> silver: grub refused to work on my old computer. I had to go with a third-party bootloader. It could be just something weird about your setup.
[04:41] <silvertip257> will anyone answer a question for me ???
[04:42] <bimberi> jackson: dpkg -L sun-java5-jre
[04:42] <ArrenLex> jackson: /usr/lib/jvm/
[04:43] <sethk> silvertip257, yes
[04:43] <silvertip257> heaths i'm not registered
[04:43] <silvertip257> ok sethk
[04:43] <silvertip257> i need to know ur opinion
[04:43] <swj> could someone tell me how to recover my password by sending it to the email address I registered with? thanks
[04:43] <silvertip257> if i burnt a CD at max speed could the MBR be messed up ?
[04:44] <sethk> silvertip257, it's not impossible.  If you mean you are booting from the CD, it doesn't really have an MBR, but it  has something equivalent
[04:44] <Admiral_Chicago> silvertip257, so
[04:44] <silvertip257> plus if the live CD booted a temporary OS, how could the MBR be bad or is the MBR copied to the hd be from a diff file
[04:44] <Admiral_Chicago> well not really
[04:44] <bimberi> swj: password to what? launchpad?
[04:44] <sethk> silvertip257, I've seen cases where a cd didn't boot, someone burned another at a slower speed, and it worked.
[04:44] <sethk> silvertip257, in fact I had that happen to me last week at work.
[04:44] <silvertip257> wow
[04:45] <swj> bimberi: password for freenode
[04:45] <sethk> silvertip257, if you aren't sure, go ahead and reburn, all you risk is a blank cd
[04:45] <jackson> bimberi: thanks. but how do I get eclipse to use it?
[04:45] <bimberi> swj: you need to contact a freenode staffer for that
[04:45] <Flannel> jackson: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:45] <bimberi> swj: see the FAQ on the freenode.net website
[04:45] <swj> bimberi: thanks
[04:46] <bimberi> thanks Flannel :)
[04:46] <silvertip257> dang it i fudged up
[04:46] <silvertip257> sethk i went to close a chat tab & totally disconnected
[04:46] <silvertip257> so sorry please repeat
[04:46] <ReinH> Hi folks, how's it going?
[04:46] <silvertip257> you had a bad CD @ work
[04:46] <AbortD> !amarok
[04:46] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[04:47] <b-_-d> help i want to install but i have no blank cd :( can i install from inside some other linux
[04:47] <b-_-d> chroot or something
[04:47] <silvertip257> sethk you there?
[04:47] <sethk> silvertip257, yes, but only for another minute
[04:47] <silvertip257> oh
[04:47] <Asymmetry> I can't remember what install versions are on what ISOs. Does the DVD include both a desktop installer, and the server installer?
[04:48] <silvertip257> sethk if i burn a slower CD that will mostlikely fix it ?
[04:48] <sethk> silvertip257, I can't say that.  No reasonable way for me to estimate the odds.
[04:48] <silvertip257> ok sethk
[04:48] <sethk> silvertip257, are you burning it in a dvd/cd combo, by the way?
[04:48] <silvertip257> sethk yes i am
[04:48] <bimberi> b-_-d: there's a few different methods described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation .  Hopefully something there will help you
[04:48] <pcdoc911> i am looking at instaling ubuntu on my system and have many many questions
[04:48] <silvertip257> DVD/CD-R/RW
[04:49] <b-_-d> thanks
[04:49] <sethk> silvertip257, I've seen this sort of problem more with those than with a burner that is just cd, not cd/dvd
[04:49] <Flannel> silvertip257: 4x is the speed you want to burn at
[04:49] <sethk> silvertip257, which makes a certain amount of sense, since the heads are a bit different
[04:49] <sethk> silvertip257, Flannel has a good recommendation
[04:49] <qch> anyone able to checkout audacity cvs?
[04:49] <silvertip257> ok thank you sethk & Flannel
[04:49] <silvertip257> i'll do that
[04:50] <silvertip257> btw i'll be lookin for you guys if something goes wrong
[04:50] <sethk> silvertip257, as I said, all you'll lose is a blank cd/r.  no guarantees, though, just a possibility.
[04:50] <silvertip257> esp b/c you were of so much help this round
[04:50] <Flannel> silvertip257: take the time to check the md5 of the iso first
[04:50] <Asymmetry> Oh, another question: Does Ubuntu support XFS?
[04:50] <silvertip257> how do i check that Flannel
[04:50] <swj> Looks like all the staffers are here :)
[04:50] <bimberi> pcdoc911: ask away
[04:50] <sethk> silvertip257, if you have cygwin installed, you just do:    md5sum iso-file-name
[04:51] <sethk> silvertip257, but I suspect you don't have cygwin installed.  :)
[04:51] <len> how do I stop 3rd mouse button emulation?
[04:51] <silvertip257> nah
[04:51] <Beawolfe> another NOOB here with a question...can someone tell me how to get a par2 file to verify or work in the GUI?
[04:51] <silvertip257> i'll get it tho if thats the easiest sethk
[04:51] <sethk> silvertip257, I don't know how to do it in windows without cygwin, but I'm sure there are a few thousand ways.
[04:51] <silvertip257> eh well i'll get it
[04:51] <pollypocket> how can I set the system to not auto-play a dvd after the the disc is mounted
[04:52] <sethk> silvertip257, if you do, change the install option from "default" to "all"
[04:52] <dallingham> Hi. I'm having problems bringing up a DLINK wireless PCI card (wda-1320. I keep getting a "Set Mode" (8B06) error. Any ideas?
[04:52] <silvertip257> sethk:  what ?!?!
[04:52] <bimberi> Asymmetry: ubuntu's mount command indicates support for xfs filesystems, i'm fairly sure it's not offered during install though
[04:52] <Flannel> silvertip257: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto  but, you need a utility to generate the md5 on windows
[04:52] <sethk> silvertip257, it will give you a list of packages.  don't change those.  the very first line is an option for all the packages.
[04:52] <Asymmetry> bimberi, Okay, ReiserFS is good enough, then.
[04:52] <len> how do I stop 3rd mouse button emulation????
[04:53] <Flannel> Asymmetry: if you get the alternate ISO, I believe XFS is available, I dont believe itis on the DEsktop ISO though
[04:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO here? :)
[04:53] <sethk> silvertip257, you'll see it, in the cygwin installer.  click where it says default, _once_, and wait, it takes 15 or 20 seconds sometimes to change from "default" to "all"
[04:53] <avr> /topic
[04:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> DBO i got graphics to work :))
[04:53] <sethk> silvertip257, and if you click it again, it will change back to default.
[04:53] <sethk> silvertip257, www.cygin.com
[04:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> thanks for all your help
[04:53] <sethk> silvertip257, sorry, www.cygwin.com
[04:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> anyone familiar with cedega?
[04:53] <silvertip257> sethk ummm lemme get cygwin first
[04:54] <bimberi> len: look for the "Emulate3Buttons" option and /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set to false
[04:54] <Flannel> Unix_n_Coffee: might try #cedega
[04:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> Flannel nobody is helping me in there
[04:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> Flannel there being kids!
[04:55] <silvertip257> sethk what type of cygwin do i need to install ?
[04:55] <silvertip257> the Unix or the DOS
[04:55] <len> bimberi: ty
[04:55] <heaths> silvertip257: md5sum.exe (windows) a tad easier than getting cywin:)
[04:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> Flannel i just have a error of cannot find 640x480 video mode
[04:55] <bimberi> len: np
[04:55] <Beawolfe> your not the only one Unix_N_Coffee
[04:55] <silvertip257> ok heaths
[04:55] <heaths> silvertip257: if all you want to do is check the hash
[04:55] <Asymmetry> You know what's fun? Someone says to you, "You know what?" and you answer with "Yes, actually, I do." They just stand there like 'wait... what?'
[04:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> Beawolfe thanks :)
[04:55] <silvertip257> umm i'm listening 2 sethk heaths, i'm not sure what i'm checkin
[04:55] <sethk> heaths, definitely, I said there must be a thousand other ways.   cygwin is a good package to have, though
[04:55] <sortadi> which is the boot option that disables the bootsplash?
[04:56] <sethk> silvertip257, any md5sum program will give you the same answer
[04:56] <sortadi> which is the boot option that disables the bootsplash?
[04:56] <dallingham> Any ideas on why a dlink pci wireless is giving an error (Set Mode 8B06)
[04:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> Flannel i just have a error of cannot find 640x480 video mode cedega error ... Xorg problem? :|
[04:56] <silvertip257> how do i know if it's good ? sethk
[04:56] <wetduck_> Does anybody here knows how to set a samba software?
[04:56] <sethk> silvertip257, oh, you'll find a file on the download site with the md5sum for each download file
[04:56] <sortadi> which is the boot option that disables the bootsplash?
[04:56] <Unix_n_Coffee> anybody know?
[04:56] <Flannel> Unix_n_Coffee: I have no idea  I've never used cedega.  You bought it presumably, doesn't it give support with your $5 a month?
[04:56] <Flannel> !tell wetduck_ about samba
[04:56] <silvertip257> sethk oh .....hmmmm
[04:56] <sethk> silvertip257, sometimes there is a small file for each download file, and sometimes there is one file with sums for all the download files
[04:56] <b-_-d> Reiser4 supported?
[04:57] <sethk> silvertip257, check the names, it will be reasonably obvious
[04:57] <Unix_n_Coffee> yes it does i suppose
[04:57] <Unix_n_Coffee> thanks Flannel
[04:57] <sortadi> which is the boot option that disables the bootsplash?
[04:57] <wetduck_> !samba
[04:57] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:57] <avr> hello, my USB keyboard and mouse aren't working after a breezy (2.6.12) -> dapper (2.6.15-27) upgrade yesterday. The old kernel works. dmesg | tail says 'usb 1-1: device not accepting address 13, error -71'
[04:57] <silvertip257> heaths, sethk - md5sum.exe does not work in command prompt
[04:57] <sortadi> which is the boot option that disables the bootsplash?
[04:57] <bruenig> !repeat
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[04:57] <heaths> you have to down load it (48k)
[04:57] <Dr_willis> sortadi,  'nosplash'
[04:58] <sortadi> !patience
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[04:58] <silvertip257> where heaths
[04:58] <Dr_willis> sortadi,  may want to disable the framebuffer also with 'nofb'
[04:58] <sortadi> Dr_willis, thanks a lot
[04:58] <sortadi> Dr_willis, what i want is a verbose boot
[04:58] <silvertip257> heaths nvm i got one http://www.etree.org/md5com.html
[04:58] <Flannel> sortadi: remove "quiet"
[04:58] <heaths> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html
[04:58] <sortadi> Dr_willis, to check somethings at kernel level
[04:58] <heaths> has better instructions for ya:)
[04:58] <silvertip257> oh haha
[04:58] <sortadi> Flannel, thanks
[04:59] <foureight84> i'm currently using network-admin. i wanna use network-manager instead. do i have to disable network admin before i switch to network-manger? would removing it in apt do the job?
[05:00] <edmundo_v> hello, I was looking in my /etc/hosts file and found an entry with a <IP_ADDRESS> address, anyone knows why this line exists?
[05:00] <silvertip257> heaths wait a sec what am i doing now ?
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> edmundo_v, thats your computer
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> localhost
[05:01] <heaths> silvertip257: reading
[05:01] <sortadi> Flannel, is that option of quiet also enabled at live-dvd?
[05:01] <sortadi> Flannel, i am using a live one
[05:01] <silvertip257> heaths: ok
[05:01] <ArrenLex> Admiral: localhost=<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:01] <edmundo_v> Admiral_Chicago, no its my hostname, localhost is <IP_ADDRESS>, so why a <IP_ADDRESS> entry?
[05:01] <heaths> silvertip257: the link explains how to get the tiny .exe and how to use it
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i read to quickly
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> then i have no clue
[05:02] <silvertip257> heaths:  which tiny .exe file ?
[05:02] <edmundo_v> it works, but I didnt understood why it is there, I never saw any distribution that does that :)
[05:02] <foureight84> anyone?
[05:02] <silvertip257> heaths:  which sum do i want @ the bottom of this ? http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/
[05:03] <boris55> what's the story with easyubuntu? is this an "official" ubuntu add on?
[05:03] <bruenig> I would assume if you removed it in apt that it would be unusable
[05:03] <bruenig> !easyubuntu
[05:03] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:03] <johnficca> automatix is better
[05:03] <silvertip257> heaths nvm
[05:03] <silvertip257> heaths what utility do i use now that i know the hash i need to check
[05:04] <bruenig> they are both evil so says people who I would think knows
[05:04] <boris55> ok, I just saw it on the net and it had all of the ubuntu logos and color schemes. looked kind of shady.
[05:04] <Xenguy> the word is, don't use either
[05:05] <Xenguy> or rather, use at your own risk :-)
[05:05] <bruenig> with the restricted format page, there really is no reason to, although it does take a bit longer to do it yourself
[05:05] <Xenguy> bruenig: yeah, pretty easy
[05:06] <boris55> I was encouraged to learn that there is an open source dvd format. Do you think it will get any traction?
[05:06] <Xenguy> boris55: what is the name?
[05:06] <boris55> not sure I read it in the official ubuntu book.
[05:06] <boris55> analagous to ogg
[05:07] <Beawolfe> A very confussed NOOB here......can someone tell me how to get a par2 file to verify or work in the GUI?
[05:07] <johnficca> does anyone know how to get w32codecs working all the way in ubuntu 64 bit
[05:07] <Xenguy> !restricted
[05:07] <bruenig> johnficca, there are some codecs that just don't exist for 64 bit
[05:07] <ArrenLex> johnficca: you can't.
[05:07] <Xenguy> bloody hell
[05:08] <johnficca> oh cool
[05:08] <boris55> I seriously don't understand restricted formats..  They all should be opened source.
[05:08] <ArrenLex> boris55: it's called "money" and some companies have to "make" it.
[05:08] <johnficca> tell that to the DRM
[05:08] <bruenig> they can make it with hardware
[05:09] <ArrenLex> bruenig: no, because there are already hardware companies.
[05:09] <bruenig> software ought to be free, and it is going that way
[05:09] <johnficca> is there any legal way to play dvds in ubuntu
[05:09] <johnficca> ?
[05:09] <ArrenLex> burenig: if they don't restrict your freedom you will copy intellectual property or something equally akin to murdering and eating little puppies.
[05:09] <bruenig> johnficca, not in the US
[05:09] <ArrenLex> buernig: and then big movie studios won't make deals with them. And you won't get money.
[05:10] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: fuck software corporations - all of them :-)
[05:10] <Xenguy> thank you
[05:10] <ArrenLex> !language
[05:10] <johnficca> what about the freespire dvd codeocs
[05:10] <bruenig> ubotu must be gone
[05:10] <ArrenLex> ...ubotu is dead.
[05:10] <Xenguy> oops - fsck
[05:10] <ArrenLex> We knew you well, little guy. ;__;
[05:10] <ArrenLex> Rest in peace. .__.
[05:10] <johnficca> can you use them in ubuntu?
[05:10] <bruenig> johnficca, it is illegal in the US
[05:10] <silvertip257> heaths:  i've figured it out & i'm checkin it now
[05:10] <nrdb> what gets me is when hardware compainies (i.e. epson) force you to use there cartridges, (can't even get them from overseas).
[05:10] <johnficca> yeah but not for freespire
[05:11] <Xenguy> bruenig johnficca but then the US is illegal :P
[05:11] <Asymmetry> The US can't tell me what software I can and can't use for legal purposes.
[05:11] <bruenig> Xenguy, that statement makes no sense
[05:11] <ArrenLex> Asymmetry: actually... they can.
[05:11] <Asymmetry> No, actually, they can't.
[05:11] <bruenig> Asymmetry, they can, perhaps you are unaware of the basic concepts of social contract or governance
[05:11] <johnficca> I don't think so cuz I heard that ubuntu was talking to the freespire people about it
[05:11] <ArrenLex> Asymm: if you live there, they can. Whether or not you listen is up to you.
[05:11] <Asymmetry> Perhaps I'm not. I'm in the US military, I know full well.
[05:12] <Xenguy> bruenig: think different :P
[05:12] <johnficca> letting them use the dvd codecs
[05:12] <Rookie-> seems to be some OT here ....
[05:12] <Beawolfe> can someone tell me how to get a par2 file to verify or work in the GUI?
[05:12] <nrdb> I need to get the Gnome.pm perl package, does anyone know what package this is in?
[05:12] <Rookie-> !gnome.pm
[05:13] <Asymmetry> If I own a DVD, I can use whatever fscking codec I want to play it.  You're just not ALLOWED. Theoretically.
[05:13] <Asymmetry> Since when? Show me where it says I can't.
[05:13] <ArrenLex> nrdb: libgnome-perl
[05:13] <dave_48091> DMCA , hehe
[05:13] <Asymmetry> Show me WHERE it says that.
[05:13] <nrdb> ArrenLex: thanks
[05:13] <ArrenLex> Asymmetry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss
[05:13] <ArrenLex> Enjoy.
[05:13] <boris55> I think you can record in your own codec. You're just not allowed to use proprietary algorithms for codecs.
[05:13] <bruenig> Asymmetry, let me edit your comment for you ...If I own a DVD, I believe I should be able to use whatever fscking codec I want to play it. If I want to make my own DVD with videos that I shot or have the legal rights to, or pictures, I believe I should be able to use whatever fscking codec I want to use to make it.
[05:14] <kenestle> Does anyone have experience with the ppc 6.06?
[05:14] <dave_48091> google DMCA , and have a nice read
[05:14] <Asymmetry> bruenig, I meant exactly what the fuck I said.
[05:14] <bruenig> Asymmetry, the edit was for correctness
[05:14] <robert_> blah, debconf build is still giving me issues
[05:14] <johnficca> Freespire is a community-driven, Debian-based Linux distribution which legally supports (or has one-click access to support): MP3, DVD, Windows Media, QuickTime, Java, Flash
[05:14] <bruenig> not for sentiment
[05:14] <ArrenLex> Can we please stop swearing here?
[05:14] <Asymmetry> bruenig, The edit was for you. My statement was correct as is.
[05:14] <Rookie-> its a big diff. between "can" and "allowed"
[05:14] <kenestle> ppc anyone?
[05:14] <Xenguy> Asymmetry: yes, money grubbing CD/DVD monopolists are evil, and we like to copy stuff anyway
[05:14] <johnficca> so why can't we use there dvd codecs
[05:14] <bruenig> johnficca, yeah if you buy freespire because freespire pays the licensing fees
[05:15] <Asymmetry> Nothing in the DMCA says that I can't find a codec to use. If I'm not using it for commercial gain, it's all good.
[05:15] <dave_48091> nope
[05:15] <johnficca> freespire is FREE
[05:15] <Asymmetry> Especially when I bought the discs, I made the videos and photos, etc.
[05:15] <Beawolfe> can anybody here see what I am typing at all?
[05:15] <Asymmetry> My material, my legal rights.
[05:15] <dave_48091> if you defeat a security device its a 20 years
[05:15] <bruenig> Asymmetry, zealousness doesn't trump legality. Perhaps you believe the laws to be wrong unconstitutional whatever you stance may be. But that does not make you above the law.
[05:15] <ArrenLex> Asymmetry: you can create your own content and distribute it in whatever format suits your fancy. But if you're given a movie in a format that you don't own the copyright to, you can't decrypt it.
[05:15] <Rookie-> yea Beawolfe
[05:15] <johnficca> linspire is Not
[05:15] <Xenguy> johnficca: freespire is l0serware :P
[05:15] <Asymmetry> ArrenLex, I never said I could.
[05:16] <johnficca> yeah I know
[05:16] <Xenguy> Beawolfe: yep
[05:16] <Asymmetry> ArrenLex, I can PLAY it.
[05:16] <ArrenLex> Asymmetry; I think we're arguing about completely different things.
[05:16] <bruenig> Let me transform your claim into one that could be made by someone in the Klu Klux Klan. It is my right to kill blacks and jews, this country was founding by white christians and therefore I have a right to kill anyone I want who isn't a white christian.
[05:16] <Beawolfe> Rookie TY I was begining to wonder if I was just talk to myself
[05:16] <dave_48091> you dont own dvd's and comerical software , you licence it and that dosnt include doing what you want with it  , sadly in the usa
[05:16] <johnficca> but I was thinking if they got over the legal stuff I think ubuntu could too
[05:16] <ArrenLex> Asym: playing it requires decrypting it using software that hasn't paid for the rights to do this.
[05:16] <Asymmetry> bruenig, That's complete bullshit, and you know it.
[05:16] <Xenguy> bruenig: die
[05:16] <Xenguy> bruenig: :-)
[05:16] <etzerd> hello all
[05:16] <etzerd> ?
[05:16] <ArrenLex> bruenig: that's the ubuntu-helping spirit! =D
[05:16] <etzerd> I always have aquestion
[05:17] <etzerd> it is out of ubunu
[05:17] <bruenig> Asymmetry, as legitimate as your "bullshit" argument is in its substance, perhaps offer why that analogy is not applicable
[05:17] <ArrenLex> !ask
[05:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:17] <bruenig> both claim the law is wrong and doesn't apply
[05:17] <ArrenLex> UBOTU IS BACK! ^___^
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IS BACK! ^___^ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <Xenguy> !question
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[05:17] <etzerd> is anyone here ever install Debian?
[05:17] <bruenig> !ubotu
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[05:17] <ArrenLex> etz: I have
[05:17] <Xenguy> ubotu: what?!!!?
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what?!!!? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <ArrenLex> XD!
[05:17] <dave_48091> < yup , many many times
[05:17] <ArrenLex> Poor ubotu is confused.
[05:17] <boris55> you might be right but to go against a company with tons of guns( lawyers)  we don't stand a chance.
[05:17] <robert_> dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `php4-4.4.2/DEBIAN/control' near line 9: missing package name
[05:17] <zoredache> I have installed debian many times etzerd
[05:17] <etzerd> ok
[05:18] <etzerd> zoredache: I install Debian maybe10 time today
[05:18] <Xenguy>  ubotu know about answering but not questioning -- who programmed this crap? ;-)
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about know about answering but not questioning -- who programmed this crap? ;-) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <Xenguy> knows
[05:18] <ArrenLex> xD!
[05:18] <etzerd> always at the end of the installation I have an error of xserver
[05:18] <kenestle> noone here uses ppc?
[05:18] <ArrenLex> ubotu the meaning of life
[05:18] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[05:18] <ArrenLex> ...he's ignoring me! :(
[05:18] <bruenig> no, he responded to your the
[05:18] <kenestle> good answer me
[05:19] <bruenig> 'the'
[05:19] <etzerd> I have no problem like that when i install ubuntu or fedora or Suse. only with Debain
[05:19] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: uh boy :-)
[05:19] <ArrenLex> XD
[05:19] <Asymmetry> Well, this has been fun. I'm going to go do something constructive. I.e. not trying to justify why my legal rights are being compared to a violent racist group.
[05:19] <amicrawle> my nvida card is  jittrring
[05:19] <etzerd> my video card is a nVidia GeForce 6200 with 256MB of memory.
[05:19] <bruenig> how dare he have to justify his claims, what is this a liberal democracy, come on
[05:19] <amicrawle> on games the req opengl
[05:19] <etzerd> it seems Debain have a problem with nvidia
[05:19] <zoredache> etzerd, why are you asking about a Debian issue in an Ubuntu channel?  Anyway X on Debian isn't really that easy to tsetup
[05:19] <Xenguy> Asymmetry: die, rascit scum
[05:19] <dainanaki> anybody have advice on how to fix screen resolution? I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it still won't change resolutions
[05:20] <silvertip257> heaths or sethk:  how could i check to see if my CD is indeed the problem ?
[05:20] <ArrenLex> bruenig: what? This? A liberal democracy? Have you seen the government lately?!
[05:20] <silvertip257> flannel:  how could i check to see if my CD is indeed the problem ?
[05:20] <bruenig> ArrenLex, right, that fits within my vague satire
[05:20] <bruenig> or sarcasm I suppose more aptly named
[05:20] <amicrawle> ,y card is a nvidia 9800 fx  512
[05:20] <Xenguy> gahh
[05:20] <etzerd> zoredache: I'm not asking Debain question it is just to prove how easy ubuntu is to install over a certain distro.
[05:20] <ArrenLex> !resolution
[05:20] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:21] <Xenguy> !New Years
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about New Years - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <ArrenLex> !botabuse
[05:21] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[05:21] <dave_48091> that is because debian stable uses a older version of Xfree86 and not Xorg
[05:21] <yst> ....
[05:21] <avihappy> How do i connect my windows mobile 5 device?
[05:21] <dainanaki> anybody have advice on how to fix screen resolution? I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it still won't change resolutions
[05:21] <zoredache> etzerd, ah, well I definatly agree that Ubuntu is really great as a Desktop system
[05:21] <ArrenLex> Yeah, Xenguy. "Investigate" him somewhere else please. Get a room.
[05:21] <silvertip257> heaths, Flannel, & sethk:  how could i check to see if my CD is indeed the problem ?
[05:21] <ArrenLex> !resolution > dainanaki
[05:21] <etzerd> it is
[05:21] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: ahem, bruhahaha
[05:22] <dave_48091> dai , edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[05:22] <ArrenLex> !synce
[05:22] <ubotu> Details of setting up synce-serial at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PocketPCHowto
[05:22] <bruenig> silvertip257, you realize there are other people in the channel perfectly capable of answering?
[05:22] <silvertip257> bruenig go for it
[05:22] <Caitlin> Anybody in here know if Genbuntu is for real or is only a concept at this time?
[05:22] <boris55> too bad 6.10 won't be part of the ship it program.
[05:22] <Xenguy> Caitlin: definitely a concept
[05:22] <ArrenLex> Never hard of genbuntu. What is it?
[05:22] <bruenig> silvertip257, well the question is ambiguous, I assume you are talking about your install cd
[05:22] <bimberi> boris55: ooh, where are you getting that info from?
[05:23] <Caitlin> Xenguy: How do you figure the viablity of it?
[05:23] <silvertip257> yes bruenig
[05:23] <ArrenLex> What is genbuntu?
[05:23] <Xenguy> Caitlin: its the suitability that concerns me =)
[05:23] <bruenig> silvertip257, you should check the md5 of iso of the file you burned first
[05:23] <zoredache> I would guess that it is Gentoo+ubuntu....
[05:23] <Caitlin> Arrenlex: A concept to make a Gentoo type Linux.
[05:23] <bruenig> !md5
[05:23] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:23] <silvertip257> bruenig i just checked the hashes of my iso
[05:23] <silvertip257> *iso's
[05:23] <ArrenLex> ...isn't Gentoo already a Gentoo type Linux?
[05:23] <dave_48091> you can turn any linux os , into gentoo
[05:23] <Caitlin> Xenguy: Explain please?
[05:23] <Xenguy> Caitlin: no thank you
[05:24] <bruenig> silvertip257, if you burned at a high speed there could be burn errors. That is not checkable I don't believe. You could do a reburn at a lower speed and see if you get different results.
[05:24] <silvertip257> bruenig i'll do that
[05:24] <ArrenLex> bruenig: it's definitely checkable. md5sum /dev/hdc
[05:24] <dave_48091> also it makes a difference on what type of cdr or dvr media your using
[05:24] <Caitlin> Right but the idea of setting flags and such is better left to Gentoo and Source compiling wouldn't you think?
[05:24] <boris55> i saw an article on tuxmachines, or lxer...
[05:24] <Zer0> is there a channel for ubuntu ppc?
[05:24] <ArrenLex> !ppc
[05:24] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[05:24] <silvertip257> bruenig do u know of any free burning software that's good (just wondering)
[05:24] <Xenguy> Zer0: ubuntu-ppc
[05:25] <bruenig> silvertip257, for linux?
[05:25] <dave_48091> you can already compile on ubuntu , why do it ala gentoo ?
[05:25] <bimberi> boris55: np, i'll scratch around myself :)
[05:25] <zoredache> debian/ubuntu has can build packages from source... apt-get -b source {packagename} ...
[05:25] <ArrenLex> dave: too much time on your hands?
[05:25] <silvertip257> bruenig for both linux & windows plz
[05:25] <Caitlin> That's what I was wondering......
[05:25] <bruenig> ArrenLex, I had assumed he was using windows, just a hunch
[05:25] <Caitlin> That is why I asked if it was real or not.
[05:25] <Zer0> Xenguy: i get redirected here (#ubuntu)
[05:26] <dave_48091> I havnt heard of it , however anything is possible given enough skill and time/money hehe
[05:26] <bruenig> windows, not sure, I always used pirate nero before I switched which was technically free. For linux I use gnomebaker on the rare occasions that I actually burn stuff.
[05:26] <bruenig> pirated*
[05:26] <ArrenLex> I love k3b for burning.
[05:26] <ArrenLex> k3b owns all.
[05:26] <bruenig> k3b for gnome? no thanks half of kde for one app is not worth it
[05:26] <Zer0> does the aiport wireless card work with ubuntu ppc?
[05:26] <Caitlin> I mean I have used Ubuntu and I liked it. No complaints. Actually Edgy-Eft Knot 3 looked great.
[05:27] <dave_48091> why do you need X to burn a cd , hehe
[05:27] <bruenig> is knot 3 a live cd?
[05:27] <ArrenLex> bruenig: yes, same as dapper is.
[05:27] <Xenguy> kd3 is damn fine cd/dvd burning
[05:27] <Caitlin> Bruenig: Yes
[05:27] <Caitlin> Until it's finalized however.........
[05:27] <bimberi> Zer0: pretty sure it does - check via here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:28] <bruenig> might look at that when I get time. Love to experience the orange. Get to see the orange for one day every six months on the new released when I reformat
[05:28] <boris55> not the link I read but here it is.
[05:28] <boris55> http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/shipit-will-not-take-orders-for-edgy-eft/
[05:28] <silvertip257> bruenig thank you i'll look for gnomebaker when i get a good stable linux OS running
[05:28] <avihappy> I have a windows mobile 5, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PocketPCHowto did Not work.
[05:28] <bruenig> releases*
[05:28] <bimberi> boris55: thanks mate :)
[05:28] <bruenig> silvertip257, if you get ubuntu going it is a quick "sudo apt-get install gnomebaker" and your good to go
[05:29] <bruenig> !gnomebaker
[05:29] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 862 kB, installed size 2640 kB
[05:29] <bruenig> oh well actually you have to enable universe
[05:29] <Zer0> bimberi: thanks
[05:29] <AbortD> god kde is great
[05:29] <bimberi> ahh, shipit continuing with dapper.  fair enough i spose
[05:29] <dave_48091> right but its pretty easy to do it by cli , right ?
[05:29] <ArrenLex> KDE owns all.
[05:29] <silvertip257> bruenig, I'm quite new to the linux scene as you probably can tell, so I'm not sure all you're talkin about, but i'm sure there is documentation
[05:29] <boris55> just saw the release schedule. final is out on my ex anniversary, so at least I'll have something to celebrate.
[05:30] <Caitlin> Any word on KDE 4
[05:30] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: finally!
[05:30] <AbortD> :D
[05:30] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: suicidal?
[05:30] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: homocidal actually
[05:30] <bruenig> silvertip257, yeah well it takes a while but becomes very logical
[05:30] <roostishaw> anyone, why do i get the following when using sudo:  sudo: unable to lookup myname-ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[05:30] <Caitlin> I think Xenguy just doesn't like everything
[05:31] <bimberi> Zer0: np :)
[05:31] <Xenguy> Caitlin: some nights are better than others ;-)
[05:31] <Caitlin> Xenguy: I hear ya
[05:31] <silvertip257> bruenig what do u mean becomes very logical ?
[05:31] <Xenguy> silvertip257: comes naturally ?
[05:32] <bruenig> everything makes sense. There is a lot of stuff and commands that seem foreign but if you take the time to learn them, it all seems to cohesively make sense. It is not just a rote memory, do this command here. The command themselves make sense.
[05:32] <Caitlin> Ubuntu is very intuitive. One of it's strengths.
[05:32] <ArrenLex> its
[05:32] <JacksLivr> i have a windows xp single partition latop and a ubuntu CD. do i need anything else to turn this into a dual boot system? i dont have partition magic.
[05:32] <silvertip257> i hear ya bruenig ... i understand now, for a sec i wasnt sure what u were talkin bout srry
[05:33] <Caitlin> Ubuntu should help you dual boot JacksLivr
[05:33] <bruenig> JacksLivr, you can resize your windows partition within the ubuntu live/install cd
[05:33] <bimberi> ubotu tell roostishaw about hostname
[05:33] <Xenguy> bruenig: and all it takes is yaers to learn :-)
[05:33] <JacksLivr> is it safe?
[05:33] <boris55> anyone ever run Xubuntu?
[05:33] <verbose> where is DISPLAY set at runtime?
[05:33] <Xenguy> er, years
[05:33] <bruenig> JacksLivr, make sure you defragment your windows partition before you try to install
[05:33] <verbose> and is it safe to change it to hostname:0
[05:33] <silvertip257> bruenig what do u think about the 5 disk fedora core 5.0 linux ?
[05:33] <verbose> instead of :0.0
[05:33] <bruenig> JacksLivr, I did it with no problem
[05:33] <bimberi> roostishaw: (see /msg from ubotu) you will have to fix it in recovery mode
[05:33] <pcdoc911> ok can someone pm me with install and what to download help?
[05:33] <Xenguy> !pm
[05:33] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[05:33] <JacksLivr> bruenig: is the windows default defragger sufficient?
[05:33] <eBs|Jack> can anyone help with install from usb stick?
[05:34] <silvertip257> bruenig what do u think about the 5 disk fedora core 5.0 linux ?
[05:34] <eBs|Jack> jackslivr no
[05:34] <roostishaw> bimberi, eek! how do i get to recovery mode?
[05:34] <bruenig> 5 disks is overkill, I used Suse first because it had more disks and therefore I thought it would have more stuff and I wouldn't have to install it which I heard installing on linux was hard. But no big deal
 is there a free one that is?
[05:34] <Xenguy> roostishaw: rescue   ?
[05:34] <roostishaw> ya
[05:34] <eBs|Jack> not a good one jacks
[05:34] <roostishaw> Xenguy
[05:34] <roostishaw> ^^
[05:34] <JacksLivr> so what do i do?
[05:34] <eBs|Jack> o&o is good but its not free
[05:35] <eBs|Jack> crack it =)
[05:35] <Xenguy> roostishaw: :-)
[05:35] <eBs|Jack> ;p;
[05:35] <silvertip257> bruenig how many disks for Suse?  Can i get that for free too?
[05:35] <Caitlin> Suse and Redhat..... <Snicker>
[05:35] <ladydoor> !u > silvertip257
[05:35] <boris55> 6 disks.
[05:35] <JacksLivr> bruenig; what defragger did you use?
[05:35] <silvertip257> what ladydoor
[05:35] <bruenig> ultimately if you are looking for stability documentation and support, you have to go with ubuntu, once you get ubuntu under your belt you can move on if you like, I am thinking of moving on the gentoo or something else because of more control
[05:35] <boris55> 5 regular + 1 add on
[05:35] <roostishaw> Xenguy, so... how do i get there?
[05:35] <ladydoor> silvertip257: read the bot's pm :-)
[05:35] <eBs|Jack> hey guys i got my usb stick to boot the alternate install disk but i have problems mounting it as a cdrom drive
[05:36] <bruenig> JacksLivr, just the windows defragger, all the defragger does is allow you to resize the ntfs partition smaller
[05:36] <Xenguy> roostishaw: sorry, I'm not sure where you are now :-)
[05:36] <bruenig> as it all becomes situated closer together at the beginning of the drive
[05:36] <d_> Ubuntu is smarter than me again
[05:36] <roostishaw> Xenguy, how do i get into recovery mode to fix my problem...
[05:36] <Caitlin> Who needs 5 disks +1 for a linux install?
[05:36] <eBs|Jack> hey guys i got my usb stick to boot the alternate install disk but i have problems mounting it as a cdrom drive
[05:37] <thedash> I can't edit my sources.list ?  it says timestamp too far in the future
[05:37] <Xenguy> roostishaw: still not sure what your problem is, but stuff CD into drive and type 'rescue'   ?
[05:37] <silvertip257> ladydoor ... this is a chat room/channel!!!!!!!!
[05:37] <Xenguy> thedash: use root
[05:37] <thedash> I did
[05:37] <Xenguy> thedash: insane
[05:37] <bimberi> roostishaw: it's an option in the boot menu
[05:37] <bruenig> thedash, do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <boris55> I pledge only DVD installs from this point forward
[05:37] <eBs|Jack> thedash try checking that your system time is correct
[05:37] <silvertip257> ladydoor nah it's ok, but dont let me catch UUUUUU using u for you
[05:37] <roostishaw> bimberi, ok, and what do i edit in those two files?
[05:37] <thedash> it is
[05:37] <Beawolfe> NOOB here........need some help if possible..............been trying for 2 days to get the answer.........can someone tell me how to get a par2 file to verify or work in the GUI?
[05:37] <thedash> the time it gives me is a little ove 4 hours in the future
[05:37] <pcdoc911> can i please get a litte help?
[05:37] <ladydoor> silvertip257: I never got into the habit.
[05:38] <pcdoc911> i am a little lost
[05:38] <JacksLivr> cool defragging now
[05:38] <eBs|Jack> hey guys i got my usb stick to boot the alternate install disk but i have problems mounting it as a cdrom drive
[05:38] <Xenguy> thedash: if ubuntu won't "allow" you, install a different distribution on principle
[05:38] <JacksLivr> eBs|Jack: sorry im a noob
[05:38] <eBs|Jack> anyone help me with the usb stick install?
[05:38] <eBs|Jack> jackslivr so am i
[05:38] <eBs|Jack> =)
[05:38] <thedash> d@sh-main:/etc/apt$ sudo nano sources.list
[05:38] <thedash> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 28 03:14:53 2006
[05:39] <Xenguy> thedash: seriously, you could try using rdate or ntp to set your clock
[05:39] <bimberi> roostishaw: have a look in them now.  one has just the hostname.  the other will have it next to an IP address (<IP_ADDRESS> on my machine - ymmv)
[05:39] <thedash> working on ntp atm
[05:39] <Xenguy> thedash: choose the 'simple option
[05:39] <Xenguy> thedash: rdate is also simple
[05:39] <bruenig> Beawolfe, are you using usenet, you dirty pirater?
[05:39] <eBs|Jack> anyone ?? please??? i followed the instructions on the wiki and no luck....
[05:39] <silvertip257> ok ladydoor excuse me :P
[05:39] <roostishaw> bimberi, and what should i expect out of recovery mode?
[05:39] <bruenig> !usb
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <weex> how do you all recommend for me to backup my ubuntu laptop?
[05:40] <bimberi> roostishaw: a superuser prompt.  you can then 'cd /etc' and then 'nano hostname' and 'nano hosts' to do your work
[05:40] <ladydoor> roostishaw: recovery mode, also known as single-user mode, is a root bash shell.
[05:40] <roostishaw> ok, cool
[05:40] <thedash> well, my computer has the correct time
[05:40] <pcdoc911> is there a install at installs off the net?
[05:40] <silvertip257> catch you all later, thank you bruenig for all the help
[05:40] <Beawolfe> bruenig ................whats the difference..........I have been asking this question for 2 days now and I am being ignored
[05:41] <bruenig> Beawolfe, are you familiar with !repeat or !patience
[05:41] <bimberi> pcdoc911: yes - check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[05:41] <roostishaw> bimberi, so im guessing that /etc/hosts should'nt have just localhost next to <IP_ADDRESS> ... so what am i missing?
[05:41] <ladydoor> pcdoc911: i think there's a possibility of netbooting...just a sec...
[05:41] <ladydoor> !netboot
[05:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:41] <ladydoor> pcdoc911: ^^^
[05:41] <Beawolfe> bruenig sorry no I am not
[05:41] <bimberi> roostishaw: no it needs to have localhost there
[05:41] <bruenig> !repeat
[05:41] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:41] <bruenig> !patience
[05:41] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:42] <LeeJunFan> bimberi: you should have your hostname there too
[05:42] <bimberi> roostishaw: put your hosts on a pastebin
[05:42] <bimberi> LeeJunFan: mine has it on a separate line against <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:42] <LeeJunFan> bimberi: then that's really all you need.
[05:42] <bimberi> LeeJunFan: yes i know, i'm the helper :)
[05:43] <jimmy_neutron> is it possible to have a different password for root (sudo) rather using my user account password?
[05:43] <Caitlin> Beowolf open the par2 file with smartpar.
[05:43] <LeeJunFan> bimberi: doh - ok, I'm going to bed.
[05:43] <mon^rch> yes jimmy
[05:44] <Caitlin> Sorry Beawolf use smartpar to open the par file.
[05:44] <pcdoc911> what ver is best 5.10 or this 6.06.1 lts?
[05:44] <roostishaw> bimberi, http://pastebin.ca/184681
[05:44] <bimberi> pcdoc911: 6.06.1 lts
[05:44] <ladydoor> !root > jimmy_neutron
[05:44] <pcdoc911> ok
[05:45] <Beawolfe> Caitlin I dont find smartpar at all
[05:45] <bimberi> roostishaw: ooh, that's pretty sparse :)  i'd add a line with "<IP_ADDRESS> yourhostname" and make sure that /etc/hostname has the same hostname in it
[05:45] <Caitlin> Beawolf: JUST A SEC
[05:45] <Caitlin> Sorry didn't mean caps
[05:46] <cliffd> can someone take pity one me and explain how I turn on php syntax/coloring in vim?
[05:46] <roostishaw> bimberi, ok, will do
[05:46] <bruenig> !info parchive
[05:46] <ubotu> parchive: Use PAR files to reconstruct missing parts of multi-part archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-4 (dapper), package size 30 kB, installed size 108 kB
[05:46] <bruenig> !info par2
[05:46] <ubotu> par2: Parity Archive Volume Set, for checking and repair of files. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4-6 (dapper), package size 116 kB, installed size 368 kB
[05:46] <pcdoc911> ok y only 1 cd
[05:46] <pcdoc911> other distros were either dvd's or multi cd's
[05:46] <roostishaw> bimberi, brb
[05:46] <bimberi> roostishaw: let me know how you go - i'm only 98.3% sure :)
[05:46] <amicrawle> my card is a nvidia 9800 fx  512
[05:47] <amicrawle> how do i install the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[05:47] <bimberi> !nvidia
[05:47] <amicrawle> i can't get  root premission
[05:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:47] <diesel> How do I startup vino server
[05:47] <amicrawle> i don't want the ubuntu driver
[05:47] <Caitlin> Beawolf try here:   http://parchive.sourceforge.net/
[05:47] <bimberi> diesel: System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[05:47] <amicrawle> i want it from nvidia
[05:48] <amicrawle> i can't init to 3
[05:48] <Dr_willis> i saw a wiki page discussing that amicrawle  - good luck.
[05:48] <amicrawle> with out su
[05:48] <Lilandra> hi
[05:48] <bimberi> amicrawle: sudo -i  (with your password) ?
[05:48] <qazqaz70> can i use two language ?
[05:48] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  why do you need to go to init 3?
[05:49] <diesel> bimberi: nice.  Anyway to run the Remote Desktop window through command-liine
[05:49] <amicrawle> becuse nvidia need to be set at inti 3 then back to 5
[05:49] <qazqaz70> can i use two language same time ?
[05:49] <diesel> bimberi: right now, I am ssh with X forwarding and don't want to load the computers entire gnome-session
[05:50] <bimberi> diesel: vino-preferences
[05:50] <dainanaki> can anyone give me a hand with some troubleshooting for some monitor issues?
[05:51] <amicrawle> "/sbin/init: /sbin/init: cannot execute binary file"
[05:51] <Caitlin> dainanaki, I can try, what's the trouble?
[05:51] <Beawolfe> Caitlin I already have the par2 proggie installed...........when I try and do it in the command line it says there is no par file present and I try and do it in the GUI and it says it cant display the file
[05:52] <Caitlin> Beawolfe I you sure the file is intact?
[05:52] <boris55> did edgy fit beta yet?
[05:52] <foo> Anyone in here located in the Los Angeles area (specifically Pasadena) and interested in giving a talk at our local LUG that meets at CalTech? We're looking for a speaker. Thanks :)
[05:53] <Caitlin> Beawolf and from the command line do you include the path to the file if necessary?
[05:53] <amicrawle> i'm from the lugod
[05:53] <dainanaki> Caitlen, well I've compiled and installed the latest nvidia drivers, and I've changed my xorg.conf to reflect the changes, but I can't get my monitor to change to any resolution or refresh rate besides 800x600 at 50 Hz
[05:53] <Beawolfe> Caitlin it is from the synaptic package manager in the new dapper distro I just d/l 3 days ago
[05:53] <mon^rch> edgy looks like its going to be nice
 i had the same problem
[05:54] <Caitlin> Beawolf I mean the par2 file.
[05:54] <Beawolfe> Caitlin the par2 is in the home directory
[05:54] <Caitlin> dainanaki, Just a sec
[05:54] <dainanaki> amicrawle, how did you fix that?
[05:54] <amicrawle> lol reformat
[05:54] <amicrawle> it would not let me goto any res
[05:54] <amicrawle> besides 640x480
[05:55] <joely_> o
[05:55] <weex> any recommendations on a backup system for this laptop of mine? I looked in synaptic but there are many choices
[05:55] <amicrawle> diskdar weex
[05:55] <tim> hi, I am trying to install EasyUbuntu but I can't find it on repositories...
[05:56] <Flannel> tim: it's not in the repositories
[05:56] <weex> diskdar is the way to go amicrawle?
[05:56] <vik> is there any useful software that indexes files (and possibly their contents) on removable media (CDs and DVDs) ?
[05:56] <amicrawle> yes
[05:56] <amicrawle> gui
[05:56] <tim> Flannel, thanks.
[05:56] <Caitlin> dainanaki, Have you tried to install the drivers with easybuntu?
[05:56] <mon^rch> easyubuntu is in the edgy repos...
[05:56] <weex> amicrawle: so that's DAR in synaptic? don't see diskdar here...
[05:57] <Caitlin> Beawolf is it in your home directory or home/user directory and does sudo make any difference?
[05:57] <roostishaw> TO THE USER THAT HELPED ME:  i forgot your username, but i got my hosts file fixed, thank you!
[05:57] <dainanaki> Caitlin, no, I wanted the latest so I could get compiz without xgl or aiglx
[05:57] <Caitlin> Easybuntu also works with Dapper
[05:58] <Caitlin> dainanaki, , There are testing binaries you could try
[05:58] <dainanaki> Caitlin, I know, but I needed the 9xxx version binaries, which is what I'm trying to get working
[05:58] <Beawolfe> Caitlin it is in my home directory
[05:58] <amicrawle> hubackup
[05:58] <amicrawle> sorry
[05:58] <Caitlin> dainanaki, I'm sorry. I think that I can not be of assistance. I tried.
[05:59] <dainanaki> Thanks Caitlin
[05:59] <amicrawle> kdar
[05:59] <amicrawle> is all so good gui
[05:59] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Try to put it in your home/user directory and sudo the command from the shell
[05:59] <dainanaki> amicrawle, did you say how I might fix my resolution?
[05:59] <diesel> bimberi: Do you know why there would be no port listening for vino, even though all options to allow remote desktop are on in vino-preferences?
[06:00] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Tell me what happens
[06:00] <qazqaz70> can i use two language same time ?
[06:01] <bimberi> diesel: hm, it should be on 5900
[06:01] <weex> thanks amicrawle
[06:01] <qazqaz70> can i use two language same time ?
[06:02] <qazqaz70> please help
[06:02] <dainanaki> can anyone give me a hand with some troubleshooting for some monitor issues?
[06:04] <Beawolfe> Caitlin the first time I tried sudo it asked me for a password........then said there wasn't enough arguments...........the second time it worked fine
[06:04] <Caitlin> Beawolf: So it works for you now?
[06:05] <Loren> should I install x86_64 or x86 Ubuntu?
[06:05] <diesel> bimberi: yeah, that's what I would expect as well
[06:05] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Sudo is the superuser command which is why it asked you for a password.
[06:05] <weex> sorry couldn't display all the contents of  <--- i'm getting this message when i try to connect to some windows shares i've used many times
[06:05] <Beawolfe> Caitlin the command line works with sudo
[06:06] <Beawolfe> Caitlin can I get it to work in the GUI?
[06:06] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Now there has to be a way to execute the gui command as a superuser.
[06:06] <ardchoille> gksudo
[06:06] <ardchoille> gksudo gedit  <-- try that
[06:07] <bl4cktone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25042/  Can anyone tell me why when I leave my computer alone it gets kicked to the login screen?  here is todays messages log
[06:07] <Caitlin> There you go Beawolf. Thank you.
[06:07] <qazqaz70> please i want help
[06:07] <eBs|Jack> hey guys i got my usb stick to boot the alternate install disk but i have problems mounting it as a cdrom drive
[06:07] <qazqaz70> can i use two language same time ?
[06:07] <ardchoille> gksudo is actually for gui apps, sudo is for command line stuff
[06:07] <Caitlin> Thank you ard.
[06:07] <eBs|Jack> any help?
[06:08] <ardchoille> Caitlin: You're welcome :)
[06:08] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Try that.... See if it works.
[06:09] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: you can also type gksuexec in a term and it will give you the choice of which app you want to launch as root user
[06:09] <Beawolfe> Caitlin try what??? the gksudo?
[06:09] <Caitlin> Beawolf read what ardchoille is typing.
[06:09] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: gksudo gedit
[06:10] <Caitlin> ardchoille, Beawolfe wants to open a par file in gui which needs su privledge
[06:10] <Caitlin> ardchoille, apparently
[06:10] <ardchoille> which app opens a par file?
[06:10] <Caitlin> Beawolf which app opens the par file?
[06:11] <ardchoille> it should be "gksudo <appname> <filename>
[06:11] <Beawolfe> Caitlin par2
[06:11] <bimberi> diesel: hm, did the process start? i get have one running /usr/lib/vino/vino-server (with lots of parameters)
[06:11] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: try: gksudo par2 filename
[06:11] <bimberi> s/get//
[06:11] <nick_> whers the ubuntu tut for compiz/xgl?
[06:11] <bimberi> !xgl
[06:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:12] <Caitlin> thanks again ardchoille I lost the gksudo commnd. totally spaced it
[06:12] <JacksLivr> ok, ran disk defrag 2 times. everything is compacted in the first 50% of the drive
[06:12] <ardchoille> Caitlin: It's easy to do
[06:12] <Beawolfe> archoille when I typed that in term it said authintacation rejected
[06:12] <JacksLivr> ready to boot up ubuntu
[06:12] <Caitlin> ardchoille, especially if you never use it. :)
[06:12] <ardchoille> Caitlin: True
[06:13] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: It does that for me too, but it always runs the app
[06:13] <qazqaz70> why nobody help me ?
[06:13] <JacksLivr> is there a good tutorial on turning a single partition xp computer into a dualboot ubuntu computer?
[06:14] <qazqaz70> please i want now how can i use two language same time ?
[06:14] <bimberi> !dualboot
[06:14] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:14] <Caitlin> Could you run an embedded user with a different language in Gnome?
[06:15] <qazqaz70> how ?
[06:15] <Beawolfe> ardchoille Like I said it will work in the command line with sudo...........but I should be able to get it to work in the GUI with just a click or something right?
[06:15] <Caitlin> I know you can in KDE but that question was more directed at the channel.
[06:15] <qazqaz70> i want like windows whe i want to change only i hold alt+shift bottom same time
[06:16] <wetduck> !samba
[06:16] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:16] <JacksLivr> bimberi, thanks
[06:16] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : try gksu
[06:16] <bimberi> JacksLivr: np :)
[06:16] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: I've not seen a gui app that won't work with gksudo or gksu
[06:16] <Caitlin> qazqaz70, I'm not sure you can do that.
[06:16] <Caitlin> qazqaz70, I'm not sure though
[06:16] <whurley> Hey all, when installing onto boxes supplied to us by Penguin Computing (dual opteron 248s 4GB ram 300GB hd) the amd 64 bit Ubuntu cd boots up fine but freezes right after the "io scheduler cfg registered" and right before where the kernel should be loaded into the ram disk. We're tried several boot options and other tricks and tips but nothing works. Any suggestions?
[06:17] <totall_6_7> !ntfs
[06:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:18] <Beawolfe> ardchoille sorry you lost me with that one
[06:18] <foureight84> how do i load pages that use flash 9?
[06:19] <nacer> you cant
[06:19] <nacer> :)
[06:19] <foureight84> awh lol
[06:19] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: using gksudo or gksu simply launches an app as if root user had launched it
[06:19] <screechingcat> foureight84 : you can if u run firefox under wine
[06:19] <foureight84> ahh
[06:19] <foureight84> but there's no way to do it in the native setting?
[06:19] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: thus, "gksudo gedit" launches gedit as if you were logged into the root account and launched gedit.
[06:19] <foureight84> i mean an alternative
[06:20] <screechingcat> adobe is stuck at flash 7 for linux
[06:20] <foureight84> bah
[06:20] <foureight84> thanks guys
[06:20] <screechingcat> u can try swf-player, but i heard it aint that great too
[06:20] <foureight84> what are you using?
[06:20] <screechingcat> flash 7
[06:20] <Caitlin> I thought Linux was stuck at flash 7 too. Kind of a bummer.
[06:20] <foureight84> ah i see
[06:21] <foureight84> yea, i can't get the music to load on myspace
[06:21] <foureight84> lol
[06:21] <screechingcat> there's a fix for that
[06:21] <foureight84> oh really?
[06:21] <screechingcat> myspace dosent require flash 9 it just wants it
[06:21] <Caitlin> foureight84, Have you put in restricted formats?
[06:22] <foureight84> what do you mean? i'm really n00b
[06:22] <screechingcat> and u can make it believe that u  have flash9
[06:22] <screechingcat> lemme look it up
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Those bums!
[06:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <foureight84> thanks
[06:22] <bl4cktone_> Did anyone reply seems like my IRC client crapped out for a few mins
[06:22] <screechingcat> here u go - http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/14/flash-9-for-xubuntu/
[06:22] <Beawolfe> ardchoillle like I said I got the command line version to work....what I want now is to be able to get the par2 file to verify in the GUI instaed of the terminal
[06:23] <foureight84> thanks
[06:23] <ogami1972> hello all! my usb mouse has mysteriously quit working
[06:23] <screechingcat> ogami1972 : unplug it and plug it back in
[06:23] <Dr_willis> was the cat playing with it? and hurt it?
[06:24] <Geoffrey2> me, I just installed wine and then installed the Windows version of Firefox and Flash 9....it's not my preferred method, but it'll have to do until Adobe gets Flash 9 for Linux out
[06:24] <ogami1972> it shows up in lsusb, and that was working, but has quit
[06:24] <nacer> lol the hack for flash9
[06:24] <ogami1972> that being plug/unplug
[06:24] <ardchoille> Beawolfe: I'm afraid I'm of no help since I don't even know what a par2 file is :(
[06:24] <JuGhEaD__> I'm trying to figure out how to use the cp command
[06:24] <nacer> archangelpetro, same as rar file for binnews
[06:24] <Caitlin> ardchoille, Par2 is a usenet file container
[06:24] <Remy> JuGhEaD__ - man cp
[06:25] <JuGhEaD__> didn't work - I'm on dsl live cd
[06:25] <konfuzed> Geoffrey2, i had to do the same
[06:25] <ardchoille> JuGhEaD__: cd /path/file /path/destination
[06:25] <JuGhEaD__> well the other lappy is
[06:25] <Dr_willis> par2 is a rar parity check file I thought.
[06:25] <Remy> JuGhEaD__ - what about cp --help
[06:25] <[BTF] Chm0d> if I have installed the nvidia drivers shouldn't libGL.so be installed with that as well?  My quake2 wont use gl cuz it cannot find libGL.so
[06:25] <ardchoille> Caitlin: kinda like a .tar.gz file ?
[06:25] <JuGhEaD__> which do I put first, the source dir or the destination
[06:25] <james296> for some reason I cant start the Beagle service even though it shows up at system startup...
[06:25] <ardchoille> JuGhEaD__: source
[06:25] <screechingcat> source
[06:26] <Caitlin> ardchoille, more like a direction file, like  .conf kind of thing
[06:26] <Geoffrey2> konfuzed, it appears Adobe is actually working on getting Flash 9 out there, though it still looks like a 2007 realease date
[06:26] <Dr_willis> [BTF] Chm0d,  it may be looking in the wrong place for it.. quake2 is old.. You may want to track down some updated  unofficial variants of it.
[06:26] <ardchoille> Caitlin: ah, ok
[06:26] <nacer> ardchoille, nop you have 100mo of rar file + 100mo of par2 file for correct corrupted rar file
[06:26] <Remy> JuGhEaD__ http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?cp
[06:26] <james296> Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
[06:26] <james296> a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
[06:26] <james296> used by your application.
[06:26] <james296> what does that mean?
[06:26] <nacer> 600 mo of rar file
[06:26] <Dr_willis> yea - par files seem a littel over kill at times.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> but they do come in handy.
[06:27] <JacksLivr> this would happen to me... the x server wont start on the live cd
[06:27] <screechingcat> Geoffrey2 : check the penguin.swf blog for more details. there's a complicated hack out there, with which u can install flash 9 on your linux systems right now
[06:27] <konfuzed> maybe vlc could be made to play flash
[06:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> thx willis
[06:27] <james296> well?
[06:27] <screechingcat> konfuzed : so far it dosent
[06:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> im thinking i need to creaete a symlink or some sort but dont know where hehe
[06:27] <foureight84> hmm the myspace music player still doesn't work
[06:27] <screechingcat> foureight84 : even after the hack ?
[06:27] <ithiel> hello all
[06:27] <foureight84> yea
[06:28] <Caitlin> foureight84, could try !restrictedformats
[06:28] <Dr_willis> [BTF] Chm0d,  Yea.. i recall simile rissues ages ago.. but honestly the Q2 code is gpl'ed now - so theres some improved engines out for it.. you just need the q2 data files.
[06:28] <screechingcat> foureight84 : wine is the only other option
[06:28] <ithiel> does anyone know how compatible Ubuntu is with MacBook Pro hardware?
[06:28] <foureight84> okay i'll do that and then use wine if all else fails
[06:28] <foureight84> thank you for the help
[06:29] <Caitlin> :)
[06:29] <screechingcat> no prob
[06:29] <Geoffrey2> screechingcat, what's the address for that blog?
[06:29] <deedubb> Hello. I came from gentoo to ubuntu, and I like it, I really do, but the startup script outputs are just ugly on my server, anyone know if theres a patch/script etc that I can run to clean them other then just hidding all messages?
[06:30] <screechingcat> Geoffrey2 : http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[06:30] <Dr_willis> deedubb,  i perfer to put them all in verbose mode. :P no framebuffer, no fancy bootsplash..  not "what is this garbage? what does this line refer to? why is it indented?"
[06:32] <nick_> how do i check if xgl is installed properly before i move to compiz
[06:32] <Dr_willis> i wonder what would happen if i removed the video card.
[06:32] <konfuzed> hey is there some way i can change the desktop-calendar to a Mayan Calendar ?
[06:32] <eBs|Jack> so no one knows anything about how to make the usbstick install work?
[06:32] <psylocybe> any wine user?
[06:32] <konfuzed> or Zolkin fr linux
[06:32] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: That's intriguing
[06:32] <screechingcat> psylocybe : yeah ?
[06:33] <JacksLivr> the first time i booted the cd, it came up with a desktop. now everytime, X fails to start
[06:33] <Dr_willis> eBs|Jack,  that 'ubuntu hacks' book had a chapter on getting a usb hard drive working.. and it took some effort.
[06:33] <deedubb> most BIOSs dont boot without a video card
[06:33] <psylocybe> im traying to run war3 but im getting some problmes
[06:33] <psylocybe> i need to run the winecfg before try to run war3?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> deedubb,  yea.. trying to quiet down the fileserver.. the video card fan is making a racket.
[06:33] <deedubb> good luck; where can I file an enhancement level bug?
[06:33] <psylocybe> screechingcat, ?
[06:34] <screechingcat> psylocybe : sorry, i use wine but not for gaming. why dont u try the ubuntu-games forum ?
[06:34] <psylocybe> can u pass me th elink?
[06:34] <screechingcat> hold on
[06:35] <screechingcat> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=93
[06:35] <Beawolfe> Caitlin Thanx a bunch for atleast getting me to a point where I can get something to work!
[06:35] <Caitlin> Beawolfe: Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[06:36] <JuGhEaD__> the cp command is not working for a directory
[06:36] <JuGhEaD__> how do you copy a directory ?
[06:36] <screechingcat> do it thru GUI
[06:36] <JuGhEaD__> GUI not loading that's why Im trying to figure out command line
[06:36] <flyphisher> -R
[06:36] <JuGhEaD__> the hdd and usb drive are mounted, all i need to figure out  is the syntax
[06:36] <Beawolfe> Caitlin atleast I can get the command line to work now...............I guess I got to spoiled with Windoze point and click
[06:37] <Dr_willis> JuGhEaD__,  i cheat and install and use 'mc' :)
[06:37] <HeavyThinker> JuGhEaD__: cp -r (-r for recursive)
[06:37] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Yeah Win does make it seem easier eh?
[06:37] <JuGhEaD__> the source is /mnt/hda1/pictures and the destination is /mnt/sda1   --
[06:37] <Dr_willis> im still annoyed that mc dont come installed by default
[06:37] <lupine_85> cp -a to keep everything inside the directory exactly as it is right now
[06:38] <JuGhEaD__> yeah I don't have internets on this thing either
[06:38] <usli> need help
[06:38] <screechingcat> usli : with what ?
[06:38] <usli> my grub menu dont have windows option
[06:39] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys whats the cmd to search for a file?
[06:39] <Geoffrey2> screechingcat, now, the hack for Flash 9, is that a response to one of the posts?
[06:39] <usli> how to get it to the grub menu?
[06:39] <screechingcat> no. its one of the posts made by the dev
[06:39] <Beawolfe> Caitlin yeah it does...but I am trying to get away from windoze...........last virus took both of my machines down in 12 hours time  and all I could do was format and reload from scratch.......lost alot because of it
[06:39] <screechingcat> usli : one sec
[06:39] <usli> thanks
[06:39] <screechingcat> usli : do u kno one which partiotn your windows is installed ?
[06:40] <ogami1972> ok- still no luck with usb mouse- it turns on, and shows up in lsusb, and xorg.conf checks out against an old backup. any ideas
[06:40] <usli> i think hda2
[06:40] <usli>  ..          /dev/hda2   *        1794        7117    42765030    7  HPFS/NTFS
[06:40] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Thats part of why I hate Win. Always have. Linux was the best move I ever made.
[06:40] <screechingcat> now do sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:40] <usli> ok
[06:41] <usli> then?
[06:41] <jimmy_neutron> how can i edit the welcome msg once i login via ssh?
[06:41] <screechingcat> usli : hold on
[06:41] <usli> hehe
[06:41] <usli> thanks
[06:41] <usli> i;ll wait
[06:41] <Beawolfe> Caitlin if I can get all of these issues I am comming across solved I will do the same with one machine
[06:42] <Caitlin> Beawolf: What are the other issues? Maybe I can help a little
[06:42] <Beawolfe> Caitlin my next thing to tackle is the samba deamon so I can work in an NTFS partion from dapper
[06:43] <Beawolfe> Caitlin the 4 gig cap with fat32 is one issue
[06:43] <screechingcat> usli : ok here's the windows part of my grub menu. try to replicate it but replace it with your settings wherever applicable
[06:43] <jimmy_neutron> is there a file where i can edit the welcome message once u login via ssh?
[06:43] <usli> ok..
[06:43] <screechingcat> usli : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25046/plain/
[06:43] <Caitlin> Beawolf: NTFS should mount under /media/hd?
[06:44] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : just use the ntfs3g driver to mount and read/write ntfs partiiotins
[06:44] <Beawolfe> Caitlin it will mount but I cant write to it sofar only browse the file tree
[06:44] <Caitlin> Beawolf did you put in the ntfs tools?
[06:45] <usli> hd0,0 ?
[06:45] <usli> isnt it for ubuntu?
[06:45] <Beawolfe> Caitlin I guess not ..what tools do you speak of?
[06:45] <Caitlin> I write data to NTFS type partitions...... Like on my USB Hd.
[06:45] <screechingcat> usli : not if u installed windows first. but its different for everyone
[06:45] <usli> but
[06:45] <usli> i installed ubuntu first
[06:45] <Caitlin> I think in synptic there are ntfs tools. Not entirely sure.
[06:45] <usli> then reinstall my windows
[06:45] <flyphisher> jimmy_neutron: try /etc/motd
[06:46] <totall_6_7> Thank you ubotu the link that bot gave worked like a charm, i can now view my files i had stuck on the ntfs drives, copy them over to the linux drives and format those drives to linux format
[06:46] <totall_6_7> thank you again
[06:46] <screechingcat> usli : thats y ubuntu is your first partition.
[06:46] <jimmy_neutron> thank you flyphisher.
[06:46] <flyphisher> np
[06:46] <usli> oh..
[06:46] <Beawolfe> Caitlin I just found them and am installing now
[06:47] <usli> then what should i put it
[06:47] <usli> hd0,1 ?
[06:47] <screechingcat> usli : one second
[06:47] <Caitlin> Beawolf: That may enable you to write to the partition. You may have to be su as well, but lets see what happens.
[06:48] <Beawolfe> Caitlin it wont let me do it in the GUI I just tried
[06:48] <usli> k...
[06:49] <Caitlin> Beawolf: Like I said you might have to be su. I don't use su in GUI, so I can't tell you how to do that.
[06:50] <Caitlin> Beawolf: NOT RECOMMENDED: I use root if I need to do file ops, but that is if you know what you are doing only.
[06:50] <screechingcat> usli : i cant find anything on the forums. try hd0,1 and see what happens.
[06:50] <usli> ok..
[06:50] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : you can read/write ntfs partitions with su with the new ntfs3g driver for linux
[06:51] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : sorry that was without su. not with it
[06:51] <Caitlin> New driver? Hmmmm......
[06:51] <Asc> screechingcat: out of curiosity, is that method safe?
[06:51] <Beawolfe> screechingcat I already have an NTFS partion I just cant write to is all only browse the files
[06:52] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : yes i get it and u can do that with this driver
[06:52] <solomakhin> is it safe to upgrade to edgy?
[06:52] <screechingcat> Asc : its worked perfectly for me.
[06:52] <Beawolfe> screechingcat where do I get the driver then
[06:52] <Caitlin> Must be prettMust be a pretty new driver
[06:52] <lupine_85> here also - more or less
[06:52] <screechingcat> Asc : but the author still puts out a word of caution since its beta
[06:52] <lupine_85> the grub package seemed a bit b0rken though
[06:52] <Asc> screechingcat: Okay.  The previous ntfs write drivers I've heard about have been... shaky.
[06:53] <screechingcat> BEawolfe : one sec
[06:53] <Asc> screechingcat: 'course, I've already made my windows partition fat32 :p
[06:53] <screechingcat> here's a guide on the forums - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs+easy+method
[06:54] <link_36p> Hey whats a good manufacturer for a laptop that has good linux/ubuntu compatibility?
[06:54] <screechingcat> link_36p : acer
[06:54] <solomakhin> link_36p: lenovo
[06:55] <flyphisher> link_36p:  I would agree with solomakhin
[06:55] <screechingcat> link_36p : if u got money its lenovo for u
[06:56] <link_36p> Hmm they seem little more pricey than others, anywhere i could get a barebones?
[06:56] <link_36p> Is there a better place to buy than newegg?
[06:56] <screechingcat> link_36p : acer bundles linux instead of winxp on some of thier laptops
[06:56] <joe__> tu+1
[06:57] <JacksLivr> question about partitions. there was a 47mb fat 16 and a 55gb ntfs... i added the swap and then i couldnt add any more primarys. i added an extended and put a logical 10gb ext3 for ubuntu install and another 40gb fat32 for common files. is that right?
[06:58] <Beawolfe> screechingcat Okay Thanx got the page marked for reading and research
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> link_36p: Thinkpads.  (Lenovo)
[06:58] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : its just a two minute process really
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> link_36p: Also, system76 is gaining reputation, but I haven't tried one myself.
[06:58] <Asc> There are a few companies that make very cheap linux systems... only one I've got bookmarked only does desktops, but with a little searching you might be able to turn something up
[06:58] <Beawolfe> okay
[06:59] <JacksLivr> is that right? im scared to death to hit enter
[06:59] <Beawolfe> Thaqnx all for the help tonight
[06:59] <baseline> hi
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: It should work anyway.  "Right" is relative, depending on your needs.  I don't actually know if it matters, but I like to have my / on a primary partition, so if I were to do it, I'd switch the swap and root install.
[07:00] <screechingcat> Beawolfe : that will 150$ please
[07:01] <darkanyel> hi
[07:01] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: make the 10GB primary and put swap and fat32 in extended?
[07:01] <THX-1138> ntfs-3g is still in beta. COMMON PROBLEM :* File modification times aren't always updated. seems like the least scarey bug. - there are a bunch of 'em
[07:01] <Asc> link_36p: what kind of price are you looking for?
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Yeah.
[07:01] <joe__> yea, so i still can't get sound to work in my edgy partition (i386 kernel), while it works in my dapper partition (amd64-k8-smp kernel)
[07:02] <darkanyel> anyone know how to install a microphone emic-111
[07:02] <usli> screechingcat: it works
[07:02] <usli> thanks for your help man
[07:02] <THX-1138> I wonder if the patent on ntfs structure really profits anyone....
[07:02] <screechingcat> usli : no problem
[07:03] <Caitlin> THX-1138, ms maybe
[07:03] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: ok, will it allow me to specify mount points later? i dont see them options yet
[07:03] <RedGhost> Well ntfs is a pretty good file system so if they want to be assholes about who can use and for what
[07:03] <screechingcat> THX-1138 : who cares if they profit, as long as they can keep it closed source, they are keeping it non-open source and thats a strategic blow
[07:04] <AbortD> how do i reinstall kde i got it through apt get
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: They should be there now, but even if they're not, the only mount point you _need_ to specify now is /, everything else can be edited later, although it's easier now and should be there.
[07:04] <screechingcat> AbortD : sudo aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[07:04] <AbortD> do i need to do it from inside of gnome screechingcat ?
[07:05] <screechingcat> AbortD : you can do it from inside of any working terminal in ubuntu
[07:05] <darkanyel> anyone know how to install a microphone emic-111?? plz!
[07:05] <screechingcat> AbortD : wait
[07:05] <AbortD> well im logged into kde right now
[07:05] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: no, no place to specify mount points
[07:05] <|michael|> hello all
[07:05] <screechingcat> AbortD : you want to Reinstall it  ????
[07:05] <AbortD> yes
[07:06] <screechingcat> AbortD : then its best to do it from Gnome
[07:06] <AbortD> k
[07:06] <JacksLivr> this is the most active channel i have ever seen at this time.
[07:06] <AbortD> same command though?
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: All right, let's try to find them.  Hopefully I remember these screens.  What do you see now?
[07:06] <screechingcat> AbortD : yeah
 i hit enter.... its applying pening opperations
[07:06] <|michael|> I am try to add a program to my menu list and have not had any success. what am I doing wrong.
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Maybe it does need to apply them before setting that.  Would make sense I suppose.  We'll see.
[07:08] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: ok, now it goes ther
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Now it gives you the mount point option you mean?
[07:08] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: my windows partition is called /media/sda2 is that ok?
[07:08] <JacksLivr> yes
[07:08] <AbortD> its saying kubuntu desktop is not installed
[07:08] <|michael|> does anyone know how to add a program to the drop down menu?
[07:09] <rdemanow> any PHP/MySQL gurus on?  I have PHP and MySQL installed, PHPMyAdmin lets me create a database, but when I try to write a script that accesses the database I get the error Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysqli_connect() in /var/www/urllist/index.php on line 19
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Sweet deal.   To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[07:10] <Graig> many programs are able to pick up icons from a theme pack, but firefox is not.  why not? it just always has that ugly blue icon.
[07:10] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: i appreciate your time tonight... my fat32 is not showing up in this emn. its the only one that isnt is thatok?
[07:11] <rdemanow> |michael|: Applications -> Accessories -> Alacarte menu Editor
[07:11] <AbortD> yeah its saying its not there
[07:11] <unfknblvbl> you can install 3 ubuntu themes into firefox
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: It's not showing in the list at all?
[07:11] <JacksLivr> no
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> Or just not giving the set point option?
[07:11] <JacksLivr> i guess i can ad it later?
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, you can.
[07:11] <JacksLivr> EITHER
[07:11] <JacksLivr> sorry on the caps
[07:12] <rdemanow> !mysql
[07:12] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: It might be worth backing up a step and trying adding it again, just for kicks, but it's not the complete end of the world otherwise, just addtional hassle.
[07:12] <JacksLivr> oh crap. its installing now
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> Ah well.
[07:13] <JacksLivr> and it just told me that the fat16 that was already on there had errors. i didnt think it was gonna pay attention to the stuff i was not modifying
[07:14] <darkanyel> anyone know how to install a microphone emic-111?? plz!
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> Master key to having a successful install: Don't get too stressed out.  After all, your worst case scenario is that you do it again.  Small loss compared to getting too frustrated and (in extreme cases) breaking the comp permanently.
[07:14] <|michael|> when an application does not auto install to the menu what do I do?
[07:14] <JacksLivr> i am stressed
[07:14] <screechingcat> michael : find the path of the application and add it thru alacarte
[07:14] <HeavyThinker> |michael|: you can File - New Entry in alacarte i think
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Do you know what that other one was anyway?  Seemed odd to have such a small partition.
[07:14] <JacksLivr> i have no idea
[07:15] <JacksLivr> company issued laptop
[07:15] <brass-srvr> irc.videolan.org
[07:15] <|michael|> to the bin file ?
[07:15] <JacksLivr> if this poops i'll be in trouble
[07:15] <brass-srvr> #videolan
[07:16] <screechingcat> JacksLivr : come on, it aint that bad. ubuntu always "just works" in the end
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: Would you have proper backups for the Windows stuff if you totally fried it?  (Not saying you're doing so, just checking)
[07:17] <jimmy_neutron> i followed the guide on how to mnt ntfs paritions. but i can mount it b/c i get the error: ntfs journal is unclean
[07:17] <jimmy_neutron> any ideas?
[07:17] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: i do have all my data backed up
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: There you go, then you won't be in trouble :)
[07:17] <JacksLivr> id have to get the computer reimaged the company way, but all my stuff is backed up
[07:18] <JacksLivr> the guy who images them is a friend of mine. he'd prolly keep a secret
[07:18] <ithiel> "SportChick" in a Linux distribution channel? Anyone see the irony of an athletically oriented female name present in a Linux channel?
[07:18] <AbortD> how do i uninstall kde?
[07:18] <ithiel> not being chauvinistic, just...observant.
[07:18] <ArrenLex> "SportChick" is a guy posing as a girl to get other guys to help him more quickly.
[07:18] <SportChick> ithiel: :p
[07:18] <d42> I am able to turn on visual beep, but not able to turn on audio beep. How do I enable the audio beep?
[07:19] <screechingcat> AbortD : sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[07:19] <jimmy_neutron> i followed the guide on how to mnt ntfs paritions. but i can mount it b/c i get the error: ntfs journal is unclean. any ideas
[07:19] <hotbabe892> Hi boys ;)
[07:19] <ithiel> ArrenLex observance countered with inference.
[07:19] <SportChick> clearly you haven't been paying attention
[07:19] <ithiel> nice.
[07:19] <AbortD> Package kubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed
[07:19] <AbortD> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:19] <ithiel> LOL
[07:19] <AbortD> screechingcat,
[07:19] <ithiel> SportChick I just got her.e
[07:19] <screechingcat> AbortD : so its not there.
[07:19] <ithiel> hmm.
[07:19] <AbortD> it is though .....
[07:19] <hotbabe892> One of you manly guys want to help little 'ol me with some Ubuntu? ;);)
[07:19] <ithiel> typo.
[07:20] <ithiel> hotbabe892 *laughs* arren...
[07:20] <|michael|> does ubuntu support nfs?
[07:20] <AbortD> i can logout of gnome and login to kde
[07:20] <fdoving> screechingcat: kubuntu-desktop is just for installing, it only depends on the packages KDE needs, they all doens't depend on kubuntu-desktop the other way around.
[07:20] <AbortD> right now
[07:20] <fdoving> AbortD: sudo apt-get --purge remove libartsc0
[07:20] <JacksLivr> tonyyarusso: what i wanna try... when this all working i wanna put vmware on the ubuntu install and create a virtual machine that uses the windows partition. then i can fire it up whenever i need to do anuything in windows and suspend it when i dont need it.
[07:20] <screechingcat> fdoving : but if u did it with aptitude u can remove everything with that one command
[07:21] <Kyynara> can't you just install gnome (if that's what you want), and get rid of kde in that way?
[07:21] <screechingcat> fdoving : thats what i did
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> JacksLivr: That's a sweet idea, but as soon as you get into that you'll have to find someone else for help ;)
[07:21] <fdoving> screechingcat: that is correct, if you installed it with aptitude, aptitude keeps track of the dependencies.
[07:21] <screechingcat> Kyynara : gnome and kde can exist side by side
[07:21] <AbortD> and then i will be able to reinstall it fdoving ?
[07:21] <JacksLivr> lol
[07:21] <|michael|> how do you handle two window managers  (kde and gnome) on the same machine
[07:21] <fdoving> AbortD: yes,later if you want, you can use 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop'
[07:21] <JacksLivr> im not gonna keep you on the hook much longer ;-)
[07:21] <hotbabe892> michael: you choose which to boot at the start of the X session or if you log out.
[07:22] <Madpilot> |michael|, you only use one at a time - or you do the sensible thing, delete KDE, and keep the better of the two ;)
[07:22] <|michael|> can you select at the login screen?
[07:22] <unfknblvbl> Madpilot: i concur
[07:22] <AbortD> KDE is better
[07:22] <screechingcat> |michael| : yes
[07:22] <hotbabe892> By "delete KDE" Madpilot means, of course "uninstall Gnome". Otherwise, he is right.
[07:22] <AbortD> i broke it though
[07:22] <Madpilot> |michael|, yes, that's when you choose
[07:22] <screechingcat> AbortD : kde is too slow
[07:22] <AbortD> slow?
[07:22] <AbortD> hm
[07:22] <AbortD> i havent really noticed
[07:23] <hotbabe892> It's not slow for me.
[07:23] <Madpilot> Ahem. Folks, I did NOT mean to kick off a WM/DE War - take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to have one!
[07:23] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys. is office 2003 supported by wine?
[07:23] <|michael|> I like KDE better too.  but how stable is it on ubuntu or do I install Kubuntu?
[07:23] <fdoving> AbortD: there is a channel for kubuntu support/help - #kubuntu
[07:23] <screechingcat> PunjabiFLOYDIAN : no
[07:23] <hotbabe892> Punjabi: go to www.winehq.com and use the "app database" for questions about which applications wine supports.
[07:23] <screechingcat> PunjabiFLOYDIAN : Crossover office supports it though
[07:23] <unfknblvbl> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: open office does the job just fine
[07:23] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> thanks hotbabe.
[07:23] <hotbabe892> You're welcome, cute.
[07:23] <foureight84> Caitlin, how do i get network-manager to remember my wep password so i don't have to enter it everytime on startup?
[07:24] <ithiel> hotbabe892 quit it. :|
[07:24] <jpiccolo_> anyone know why quake 4 wont use the rez i set it at?
 since you say, i cant configure spellcheck in Open Office
[07:24] <screechingcat> hotbabe892 : this is wierd
[07:24] <ithiel> lol
[07:24] <AbortD> i still wish i could get my sound previews to work :P
[07:24] <Caitlin> foureight84, Try putting it into the network settings under system
[07:24] <foureight84> thanks
[07:24] <ltnelson89> i need help getting my bluetooth dongle to recognize my microsoft keyboard and mouse before i log in... any suggestions?
[07:24] <Caitlin> :)
[07:25] <unfknblvbl> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: i never use spell check
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Gaim spellchecks for me, but I don't really need it.
[07:25] <jpiccolo_> i have logitech bluetooh and it works at startup
[07:25] <foureight84> Caitlin, ah that won't work. i'm not using network-admin. i'm using network-manager-gnome
[07:25] <unfknblvbl> but i'm sure you just need ot install or selct a dictionary
[07:25] <ArrenLex> And it just told me 'spellcheck' was spelt wrong. Ah, the irony.
[07:26] <foureight84> there's an authentication window that pops up every time on bootup. slows everything down
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: what problems are you having with spellcheck?
[07:26] <jpiccolo_> ltnelson89, does you bluetooth double type letters?
[07:26] <Caitlin> foureight84, So you don't have a network setting?
[07:26] <ltnelson89> no
[07:26] <screechingcat> PunjabiFLOYDIAN : just get a better dictionary
[07:26] <Caitlin> foureight84, where it lists your devices?
[07:26] <foureight84> i have it
[07:26] <jpiccolo_> ltnelson89, mine does all the damn time, annoying when coding
[07:26] <foureight84> but my eth1, wireless is disabled
[07:27] <Caitlin> foureight84, You should enable it
[07:27] <foureight84> hmm okay
[07:27] <Caitlin> foureight84, There shoud be a spot in there for entering your key and then save it
[07:28] <foureight84> thanks
[07:28] <ltnelson89> ive been trying to figure this out for a week now... and ive gone through every tutorial in the book.... and it still wont connect to my devices during boot...
[07:28] <Caitlin> foureight84, Welcome
[07:30] <ltnelson89> ?? 'ello? anybody here?
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Lots of people are here. What do you need?
[07:31] <unfknblvbl> a new computer
[07:31] <screechingcat> 0 ops, 828 total
[07:31] <unfknblvbl> and a nice widescreen
[07:31] <screechingcat> unfknblvbl : granted. Next ?
[07:31] <ltnelson89> lol, someone with experience dealing with bluetooth keyboards at boot
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> screechingcat: cheers
[07:32] <screechingcat> ;)
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> ETA >
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> ?
[07:32] <screechingcat> eternity
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> b4st4rd
[07:32] <screechingcat> its microsft made
[07:33] <dw_> i've the following (big) problem. I have a hp pavilion dv9043ea and have a problem with any pcmcia card. the problem is, that apparently no pcmcia bridge is installed as this is the error message i get, when i try to start /etc/init.d/pcmciautils. question: what can i do, to install such a pcmcia bridge?
[07:33] <unfknblvbl> >.<
[07:33] <d42> "Enable system beep" is selected in System Preferences Sound gnome menu. But no beep! Clicking on button beside "System Sounds" item produces a beep. How do I enable the System Beep?
[07:33] <screechingcat> so you'll ahev to wait a while
[07:33] <sivik> !pcmcia
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <jimmy_neutron> can some help me?
[07:34] <jimmy_neutron> i followed the guide on how to mnt ntfs paritions. but i can mount it b/c i get the error: ntfs journal is unclean. any ideas
[07:34] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron : start windows and shut it down properly
[07:34] <ltnelson89> is there maybe another channel someone can direct me to that deals more spacifically with bluetooth on linux
[07:34] <sivik> ltnelson89, what distro?
[07:35] <ltnelson89> ubuntu
[07:35] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: windows is not on this parition
[07:35] <sivik> !bluetooth
[07:35] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:35] <sivik> ltnelson89, try that
[07:35] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: its on an external hard drive (usb)
[07:35] <ltnelson89> tnx
[07:35] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron : ok, which guide did u follow ?
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys please suggest a way to run WMV files
[07:36] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[07:36] <ArrenLex> !codecs
[07:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: essentially you need the w32codecs package.
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> where can i get that?
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: search on apt-get.org
[07:36] <bobdole2099> hi guys will the linux-source-2.6.15 work for 2.6.15-27-686??
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: or download it from the mplayer website and untar it in /usr/lib/win32
[07:36] <screechingcat> PunjabiFLOYDIAN : add the PLF repo
[07:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok i get it. but can u suggets a way to run Itunes files?
[07:37] <cablesm102> Will Beagle 0.2.10 be in Edgy?
[07:37] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron : did u do the fourth part ?
[07:37] <ArrenLex> !itunes
[07:37] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[07:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> aa. thanks
[07:37] <dw_> additionally: all i can see in the lspci output containing "bridge" belongs to mpc51 (it's a nforce chipset)
[07:37] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: if you mean, how can I play DRMed files I bought from iTunes on Linux... you can't.
[07:37] <unfknblvbl> whats an itune file ?
[07:37] <unfknblvbl> i've never had one of them before
[07:37] <ltnelson89> sivik, ive allready connected my bluetooth keyboard and mouse... they work fine (im even on them right now) but i cant get them to connect on or before the login screen
[07:38] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: yes i did. i took out the entry in fstab
[07:38] <cablesm102> ArrenLex, you can
[07:38] <ArrenLex> unlsdafglasf: aac (m4a)
[07:38] <ArrenLex> cables: expand?
[07:38] <unfknblvbl> lol
[07:38] <unfknblvbl> ta
[07:38] <cablesm102> QTFairUse can remove the DRM
[07:38] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron : not that. the one specific to usb drives
[07:38] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> oh. there must be some way aroudn this? lol. i read on doom2600
[07:38] <ArrenLex> cables: removing DRM != playing the DRMed file. It = illegal.
[07:38] <unfknblvbl> IRC TIP: type part of the name and pres TAB
[07:38] <UKMatt> Hey guys - If I want to create a DVD with Menus (and it is a legal dvd), what programs can/should I use?
[07:38] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah i know. but then a lot of things are illegal. so whwat!
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: the only way around it is to remove your encryption in Windows when you downloaded the files.
[07:39] <cablesm102> ArrenLex, that's true, but so is playing a DVD with VLC.
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Punabi: google itunes drm.
[07:39] <ArrenLex> cables: indeed.
[07:39] <cablesm102> I'm wondering if Edgy will have Beagle 0.2.10
[07:39] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok. thanks guys.
[07:39] <ArrenLex> cables: I don't agree with the laws. I'm merely pointing them out so he knows what he's facing.
[07:39] <cablesm102> ok
[07:39] <UKMatt> Are there any programs that can burn a DVD with a menu?
[07:39] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: yea. in the "my computer" window i see my ntfs partition but i can't read or write to it. if i right click i see the scripts but i still get that ntfs journal error
[07:40] <d42> Can any help? I have "Enable system beep" is selected in System Preferences Sound gnome menu. But no beep!
[07:40] <d42> Clicking on button beside "System Sounds" item produces a beep. So Software and Hardware working. I'm running Dapper.
[07:40] <d42> How do I enable the System Beep?
[07:40] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron,  try posting your problem on that thread. givre will solve it
[07:40] <angrybunny> hey guys, a quick question before i finally go Ubuntu
[07:40] <cablesm102> !beagle
[07:40] <angrybunny> does it support .chm files?
[07:40] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB
[07:40] <ArrenLex> What are .chm files?
[07:40] <cablesm102> angrybunny, what do you mean?
[07:40] <cablesm102> is that a help file?
[07:40] <angrybunny> compiled html
[07:40] <screechingcat> angrybunny, what is tha /
[07:40] <angrybunny> like
[07:40] <angrybunny> the help file
[07:40] <angrybunny> yah
[07:41] <cablesm102> angrybunny, Ubuntu has its own XML help systeme
[07:41] <ltnelson89> so no one in here uses a (microsoft) bluetooth keyboard and mouse and/or has had to specially configure it to connect at boot?
[07:41] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: is ubuntu suppose to have an entry in "my computer"
[07:41] <angrybunny> nononono
[07:41] <angrybunny> its because
[07:41] <angrybunny> i have some e-books
[07:41] <angrybunny> some aint the word
[07:41] <ArrenLex> angrybunny: google is your best friend.http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81510 Is this helpful?
[07:41] <angrybunny> i have like 8gb ebooks
[07:41] <angrybunny> in .chm
[07:41] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron : i dint get it. can u rephrase that please
[07:41] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: is ubuntu suppose to have an entry in "my computer" if the ntfs partition is removeable?
[07:42] <KenSentMe> I deleted the trashcan from my gnome desktop by accident. How can i place a new trashcan on the right of the Workspaces (don't know the exact english word)?
[07:42] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron,  it should show up in your places menu
[07:42] <cablesm102> KenSentMe, right click on the panel and hit Add to Panel
[07:42] <screechingcat> KenSentMe, right click > add to panel
[07:42] <cablesm102> It should be there
[07:42] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: yes i show that
[07:43] <slashmestickston> That didn't work.
[07:43] <Jaksh_Eet> has anyone got Flash to play on Ubuntu AMD64? I tried to install gnash but the firefox plug in is not working
[07:43] <slashmestickston> stickstongueout :P
[07:43] <d42> I have a question about enabling the system beep on Ubuntu. Is this the right place to ask?
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Me stop now.
[07:43] <cablesm102> d42, sure
[07:43] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, finally
[07:44] <sivik> anyone here have openssh-client installed to check something for me
[07:44] <Asc> On a related note, does anybody know how to uninstall flash?
[07:44] <gonzo_> hey all
[07:44] <angrybunny> [ArrenLex] : thanks too much !
[07:44] <cablesm102> Asc, use the package manager...
[07:44] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: the error msg tells me i should run 'ntfsfix'
[07:44] <ArrenLex> Asc: how did you install it?
[07:44] <d42> I have "Enable system beep" is selected in System Preferences Sound gnome menu. But no beep! Clicking on button beside "System Sounds" item produces a beep. So Software and Hardware working. I'm running Dapper.
[07:44] <sivik> !flash
[07:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:44] <gonzo_> could any1 help me get my pvr-150 tv tuner workin
[07:44] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron, try running it
[07:44] <gonzo_> with kdetv
[07:44] <morphir> arg, I need to have jdk-1_5_0_07-nb-5_0-linux-ml.bin installed.. I try: sh jdk-1_5_0_07-nb-5_0-linux-ml.bin..but it does not do the trick..tips?
[07:44] <cablesm102> d42, when do you expect to hear the beep?
[07:44] <Asc> It doesn't appear in Synaptic
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Asc: how did you install it?
[07:45] <gonzo_> ?
[07:45] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: thats the problem i can't b/c its not a command
[07:45] <screechingcat> Asc : its flashplugin-nonfree
[07:45] <cablesm102> Asc, how did you install it?
[07:45] <cablesm102> Arren, beat me
[07:45] <Asc> It was a while ago, but I suspect I downloaded whatever's on the Flash download site
[07:45] <angrybunny> well ty for the help guys. now imma go sleep :D cya !
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Asc: then it's probably in your ~/.mozilla/plugins
[07:45] <d42> cablesml02, when pressing backspace at the beginning of a line in a terminal session, etc.
[07:45] <screechingcat> jimmy_neutron, i realy dont kno that much about usn drives. ask on the forum thread
[07:45] <dibblego> what is the default key binding to lock the screen?
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Or else in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[07:45] <jimmy_neutron> screechingcat: thx thou
[07:45] <cablesm102> d42, I don't get that then.
[07:45] <gonzo_> hello?
[07:46] <Jaksh_Eet> hello
[07:46] <Asc> ArrenLex: Ah, thanks.  Found it.
[07:46] <gonzo_> lol
[07:46] <cablesm102> I'm guessing it's just not a feature of the terminal
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Asc: just search your system for flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so
[07:46] <gonzo_> could any1 help me with a pvr-150 with kdetv
[07:46] <d42> cablesm102, With visual beep on, the screen flashes.
[07:46] <screechingcat> Asc : u actually comiled a tar.gz when there's a deb available
[07:46] <cablesm102> d42, that's weird.
[07:47] <ArrenLex> cat: ah, if only Flash could be compiled.
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Aw! ^___^
[07:47] <cablesm102> d42, i get visual but not sound
[07:47] <Asc> screechingcat: Can't say I recall; it was a while ago.  I guess it's possible, compiling usually isn't too hard.
[07:47] <KenSentMe> cablesm102, screechingcat: the problem is that i can't get the icon to the right of the workspaces, i know how to get it on the panel.
[07:47] <cablesm102> oh
[07:47] <d42> cablesm102, with visual off, then should get sound, when sound is selected. Right?
[07:47] <cablesm102> no idea, d42
[07:48] <screechingcat>  KenSentMe : right click icon and select move ican
[07:48] <gonzo_> could some1 please help me?
[07:48] <ArrenLex> !ask
[07:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:48] <cablesm102> KenSentMe, rightclick on the workspaces, uncheck lock, then move them a bit
[07:48] <cablesm102> then when you go to Add to Panel, you should be able to drag the trashbin in.
[07:48] <gonzo_> i have
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Oh, so you have.
[07:48] <gonzo_> could any1 help me with a pvr-150 with kdetv
[07:48] <cablesm102> !ubotu
[07:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:49] <KenSentMe> cablesm102: ah, now i found it, thanx
[07:49] <ArrenLex> gonzo: I guess you should take that as a "no one here knows how to help you with kdetv; try google, try the forums, or try asking again in 15-ish minutes."
[07:49] <Jaksh_Eet> yeah, Flash is a pain. I installed the Synaptic version and then my gmail kept crashing, so I had to take it back out but not flash sites are unable to be viewed, it really blowes
[07:49] <ArrenLex> Jaksh: god bless proprietary standards, eh?
[07:49] <gonzo_> any1 no anything about pvr-150?
[07:49] <gonzo_> haupagge
[07:49] <Jaksh_Eet> yeah, lol
[07:49] <gonzo_> tv tuner
[07:49] <Asc> I never use flash sites, so all I get out of flash is highly annoying, cpu-eating ads
[07:50] <d42> Anyone have any idea what could be stopping the System beep, when it is selected in the preferences?
[07:50] <screechingcat> Asc : use flashblock
[07:50] <Jaksh_Eet> so I tried this gnash, but the Firefox plug in seems to not be working
[07:50] <screechingcat> Jaksh_Eet, try swf-player
[07:50] <ArrenLex> Jak: gnash is not yet useable. There is no game support, sound support, flash > 7 support...
[07:50] <Jaksh_Eet> and the Flash team doesnt think linux 64bit users will want the new flash, eerrrr
[07:51] <cablesm102> !tell cablesm102 about ubotu
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Jak: they know we want it. The problem is that Linux 64-bit users are like one half of one percent of the total flash users. Welcome to obscurity.
[07:51] <THX-1138> Asc. - Yes but you are also missing the long scans issued by skull and crossbones sites for windows vulnerabilities. - do you miss it?
[07:51] <Jaksh_Eet> not really playing games on it, just trying to get flash sites to show in Firefox, like Gmail, lol
[07:51] <screechingcat> ArrenLex, and with obscurity comes great responsibility
[07:51] <cablesm102> !tell KenSentMe about panel
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Jak: what does gmail have to do with flash?
[07:52] <screechingcat> Jaksh_Eet, gmail uses AJAX not flash
[07:52] <Jaksh_Eet> dont know but it crashes if it is installed
[07:52] <Asc> THX-1138: Eh?
[07:52] <Jaksh_Eet> but if uninstall flash gmail works fine so you tell me
[07:53] <none> hm i kinda messy upgraded from warty (only cd around) to dapper and later to edgy and now my xserver wont start anymore :p
[07:53] <THX-1138> Some shady sites use the browser id string to start probing for holes.
[07:53] <gonzo_> any1 no how to setup a hauguppe pvr-150
[07:53] <none> startx fails too
[07:53] <Flannel> none: you can't just upgrade from warty to dapper, you have to go warty > hoary > breezy > dapper > edgy
[07:53] <THX-1138> you got to have java and flash installed and working for best results. naturally.
[07:53] <none> ic .. that might be the problem
[07:54] <none> i just changed the sources file
[07:54] <screechingcat> none : just order a dapper cd
[07:54] <dts> how do i add a user with the command line so that the folders are set up and it asks me for pwd and so on
[07:54] <Flannel> none: but, for the bandwidth required doing all those upgrades, just download 6.06.1 ;)
[07:54] <dts> gentoo used to have superadduser
[07:54] <gonzo_> any1 no how to setup a hauguppe pvr-150
[07:54] <kuja> How do I find the size of a directory and all its files recursively?
[07:54] <none> hm
[07:54] <none> i got a dapper cd but its not bootable ..
[07:54] <none> so i had to go for warty
[07:54] <|michael|> is there any way to install both kde and gnome at the same time on a ubuntu installation?
[07:55] <Flannel> none: you mustve burned it too quickly or something
[07:55] <screechingcat> none ; what do u mean ? if its not bootable then what is it for ?
[07:55] <Flannel> |michael|: certainly, just apt-get the other
[07:55] <none> i dono i just doesnt boot :)
[07:55] <screechingcat> |michael| : DONT
[07:55] <Jaksh_Eet> does swf-player have a Firefox plug in?
[07:55] <none> and now im sitting on a broken edgy with no x server
[07:55] <THX-1138> Flannel - How do you find out how much disk space is used and available? "du"?
[07:55] <screechingcat> |michael| : use sudo aptitude to install kde/gnome
[07:55] <dw_> anyone who can help me on installing a "pcmcia bridge"?
[07:55] <Flannel> THX-1138: du and df (used and free)
[07:55] <screechingcat> Jaksh_Eet, yes
[07:55] <gonzo_> any1 no how to setup a hauguppe pvr-150
[07:56] <screechingcat> gonzo_ try the forums mate
[07:56] <[BTF] Chm0d> thats what i have Gonzo
[07:56] <Flannel> |michael|: ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are the package names, and yeah, aptitude is probably a better choice
[07:56] <d42> I have a question regarding getting the System beep to work. Which is the best email list for addressing this query?
[07:56] <[BTF] Chm0d> haven't gotten it to work yet
[07:57] <none> so any hints on how to make it work again? already removed and reinstalled xserver-core but without effect
[07:57] <JacksLivr> where would i find the script that will let me fix my resolution for X?
[07:57] <|michael|> has anyone done this, installed both kde/gnome?
[07:57] <JacksLivr> the x configure gui
[07:57] <Flannel> |michael|: yeah, Ive got both installed
[07:57] <THX-1138> mon deiu! i need to read man du then man df too. - Flannel you are the "man" for command line query - Thank You
[07:57] <screechingcat> |michael| : ive got all three
[07:57] <Flannel> !tell JacksLivr about fixres
[07:57] <screechingcat> none : no use. its prolly broken in too many places
[07:57] <none> hm
[07:57] <|michael|> obvisouly it works
[07:58] <none> dist-upgrade is fine ..
[07:58] <none> no held back packages or something
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> d42: ubuntu-users would be the appropriate list.
[07:58] <Flannel> none: suggest reburning a dapper one (at 4x, and check the md5 of the iso) then installing that, make sure you have 6.06.1, at that
[07:58] <none> hm
[07:58] <d42> tonyyarusso, Thanks.
[07:58] <wmealing_> hey guys, which file in the system could uniquely identify a system as ubuntu and its release ?
[07:58] <screechingcat> none : i second flannel's recommendation
[07:58] <Flannel> wmealing_: "lsb_release -a"
[07:59] <wmealing_> Flannel, thanks !
[07:59] <none> id rather install debian where distupgrades actually work :p
[07:59] <Flannel> wmealing_: or, whatever flag you want, theres options for all of the lines individual
[07:59] <|michael|> can I obtain smart for ubnutu / kubuntu?
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> none: that's your choice. :)
[07:59] <wmealing_> Flannel,  yeah.. i just checked up on that.
[07:59] <Flannel> none: You can't dist upgrade from warty to dapper, simple as that.
[07:59] <surface> how about dapper to edge later?
[07:59] <Flannel> !smart
[08:00] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[08:00] <wmealing_> Flannel, would you happen to know.. if its different for the sub-buntus ? (kbuntu, etc ?)
[08:00] <Flannel> surface: yes, o course
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> |michael|: sudo apt-get install smartmontools smart-notifier
[08:00] <Flannel> surface: you just can only upgrade one at a time, currently.  Although works being done in edgy and later to try and get rid of that requirement
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> oh whoops, thought you meant S.M.A.R.T
[08:00] <Flannel> wmealing_: what?
[08:01] <gonzo_> any1 no how to setup haupuege pvr-150 tv tuner???????
[08:01] <wmealing_> for example.. it says "Ubuntu" for ubuntu.. what about kbuntu ?
[08:01] <Flannel> wmealing_: no, I believe it's the same regardless,
[08:01] <wmealing_> cool
[08:01] <none> strange that it worked and apt-get seems happy now
[08:01] <surface> Flannel:  alright
[08:01] <wmealing_> thankyou, you've been a big help .
[08:02] <THX-1138> gonzo - I hate to do this going to say the mythtv channel or possibly even knoppmythj.  (Ducking barrage of incomming rotten tomatoes in 3..2..1..)