[01:52] <czajkowski> aloha
[01:55] <paultag> morning czajkowski
[01:57] <czajkowski> ello brat
[02:05] <Pendulum> paultag: are you in the loco council channel?
[02:05] <paultag> Pendulum, yup.
[02:05] <Pendulum> paultag: well done.
[02:06] <paultag> Pendulum, are you an eddie izzard fan?
[02:06] <paultag> I read that in his voice
[02:06] <paultag> "Aaaah well done! You must get up very early in the morning."
[02:14] <czajkowski> paultag: glad yer getting the hang of that
[02:14] <czajkowski> :p
[02:14] <paultag> czajkowski, I have to manually join every login, it's really lae
[02:14] <paultag> lame
[02:16] <pleia2> paultag: use a server password when you connect to freenode
[02:16] <pleia2> freenode sees it as a nickserv password
[02:16] <paultag> pleia2, wait, what?
[02:16] <paultag> No way!!
[02:16] <pleia2> yes
[02:16] <paultag> That would make my life awesome
[02:16] <pleia2> that's how the rest of us do it :)
[02:16] <paultag> well shit!
[02:16]  * paultag huggles pleia2
[02:16] <czajkowski> paultag: language
[02:16] <pleia2> it also avoids this:
[02:16] <pleia2> 09:58:56 -!- paultag<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-community-team
[02:16] <maco> !language
[02:16] <ubot2> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:16] <pleia2> 09:58:56 -!- paultag<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Changing host]
[02:16] <paultag> +1 pleia2 :)
[02:16] <pleia2> 09:58:56 -!- paultag [~tag@ubuntu/member/paultag] has joined #ubuntu-community-tea
[02:17] <paultag> Well, I'm going to try this out
[02:17] <paultag> much better
[02:17] <paultag> thanks there pleia2
[02:41] <duanedesign> cya all in the am
[08:32] <dholbach> good morning!
[08:32] <nigelb> morning dholbach :)
[08:32] <nigelb> dholbach: The new harvest is totally rocking.  I just saw it :)
[08:34] <kim0> morning fellas
[08:34] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[08:34] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:34] <kim0> dholbach: long flight ?
[08:34] <kim0> :)
[08:34] <nigelb> morning kim0 :)
[08:34] <kim0> nigelb: morning man
[08:34] <dholbach> kim0, it was alright, but I'm properly jetlagged now :)
[08:35] <kim0> hehe :)
[08:35] <nigelb> kim0: dholbach just says disaparates into Berlin :p
[08:38] <nigelb> s/says//
[09:34] <nigelb> Pendulum: Hiya :)
[10:22] <nigelb> dholbach: whoa, that's a lot of action items.
[10:23] <dholbach> nigelb, no slacking this cycle
[10:23] <nigelb> dholbach: heh
[10:23] <nigelb> Well, if you want to offload some action items, let me know :)
[10:32] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:32] <dholbach> hi czajkowski
[10:34] <czajkowski> dholbach: ello
[10:36] <nigelb> morning czajkowski :)
[10:37] <nigelb> czajkowski: did ya find taffes eventually? ;)
[10:38] <czajkowski> yup thanks to Pendulum and doctormo
[10:38] <nigelb> \o/
[10:56] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[10:57] <nigelb> duanedesign: sleep cycle out of whack? ;)
[10:58] <duanedesign> nigelb: actually this is pretty close to normal :)
[10:59] <duanedesign> well, normal for me :P
[11:02] <nigelb> heh
[12:40] <nigelb> \o/ http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/resources/case-studies/french-national-police-force-saves-%E2%82%AC2-million-year-ubuntu
[12:44] <Pici> woo!
[12:51] <nigelb> ok, off home, later all!
[12:52] <Pici> Cyas
[13:00] <daker> hello everybody
[13:00] <kim0> o/
[13:01] <daker> so i have a question
[13:03] <daker> i am asking the UDS organizers if there is a chance to organize the UDS somewhere in Africa ?
[13:03] <kim0> It's just generally good to just ask your question and wait for an answer
[13:06] <daker> coze it's really important and it will push the FLOSS movement
[13:07] <AlanBell> daker: my understanding is that the next two UDS locations have been decided
[13:07] <AlanBell> and the next one is Budapest
[13:07] <daker> Two ? oh :s
[13:07] <AlanBell> It has been suggested that sabdfl takes us home to SA
[13:07] <Pici> I suspect that cost might be a limiting factor there.
[13:08] <Pici> Also, does anyone know if the UDS surveys were sent out, and if they only went to sponsored people?
[13:08] <duanedesign> i have not received one Pici
[13:09] <Pici> duanedesign: Okay.
[13:09] <daker> Pici, what do you mean by "limiting factor" can you elaborate ?
[13:09] <daker> Pici, i mean "cost might be a limiting factor"
[13:10] <Pici> daker: Canonical does not have unlimited funds.  They sponsor (an increasing) number of people to attend each UDS.
[13:11] <jussi> daker: Suggestions for suitable places (good internet, ~450 people in double rooms, cheap enough, 450 perrson audotorium etc) can be sent to marianna
[13:12] <daker> jussi, thanks
[13:13] <jussi> daker: theres no guarantees of course, and youll have to go find her email somewhere...
[13:14] <Pici> I think it was on the wiki page for UDS-N
[13:14]  * kim0 waits for the accidental paste :)
[13:26] <JanC> it's not only cost for those who get funded but also cost for those who don't
[13:26] <Pici> Right.
[13:26] <nigelb> JanC: +1
[13:26] <daker> JanC, why ?
[13:27] <JanC> although, of course cost would be less for those in/near South Africa then
[13:27] <popey> daker: some people pay their own way to go
[13:27] <popey> i paid my own way to go to my first UDS in Sevilla
[13:27] <Pici> I've paid for all the UDSes I've attended.
[13:27] <nigelb> I might for O :)
[13:28] <nigelb> Really glad its announced early, we can actually get good deals on flights
[13:28] <popey> I dont see how having UDS somewhere in Africa helps African FLOSS adoption specificall
[13:28] <popey> _y
[13:28] <nigelb> s/-/+
[13:28] <popey> but I do see that othr events around it could
[13:28] <popey> but we dont tend to do events around UDS like we used to
[13:28] <Pici> Too busy.
[13:29] <popey> FOSSCamp for example
[13:31] <JanC> I guess the most likely place in Africa might be Morocco, as it's close to Europe and relatively stable/safe  ;)
[13:32] <popey> I understood that they might go back to florida again
[13:32] <daker> JanC, yeah :D thanks you
[13:32] <daker> s/thanks/thank
[13:33] <JanC> daker: you're from Morocco ?
[13:33] <daker> yep
[13:34] <popey> Morocco would certainly be a somewhat more... hmm... 'cultured' place than florida :)
[13:34] <popey> well, more than Disney anyway
[13:35] <jussi> heh
[13:35] <nigelb> well, I just did Mor<tab>, sigh.
[13:35] <nigelb> Well, Morocco would be fun indeed.
[13:35] <JanC> you can always propose it, if you know a good conference location, maybe for 1.5 years from now...  ;)
[13:36] <daker> JanC, that's good
[13:36] <nigelb> I was hoping we'd have a UDS in some Asian city, anywhere Dubai, Singapore, Hong Kong, lots of places with good hotels (I don't know about price though)
[13:37] <daker> nigelb, maybe in 2years from now :D
[13:37] <JanC> nigelb: I know at least one person who certainly wants to organise it if it's in Singapore or Vietnam  ;)
[13:38] <nigelb> Singapore would be lovely.
[13:38] <jussi> 2 years from now it should be in the US
[13:38] <nigelb> 2.5 years then :)
 taiwan<cough>
[13:38] <jussi> :D
[13:38] <nigelb> +1
[13:39] <nigelb> London? ;)
[13:39] <JanC> I think the problem is that Asia is quite expensive to travel to/from, and there are often visa problems
[13:39] <nigelb> I believe Singapore has visa on arrival.
[13:39]  * nigelb checks
[13:39] <JanC> I know Vietnam has visa on arrival
[13:40] <JanC> but does visa on arrival mean you always get it?
[13:40] <nigelb> well, no visa for US citizens
[13:41] <nigelb> I think it does
[13:41] <JanC> so, in that respect it would be easier than the US actually?  :p
[13:41] <popey> there should be a webapp which looks at the home locations of all attendees and calculates average flight costs to all cities then figures out a location for you :)
[13:42] <JanC> that would be rather complicated
[13:42] <popey> yup
[13:42] <popey> exactly the kind of task a computer should do :)
[13:42] <popey> and not a human
[13:43] <Pici> popey: I believe that Jorge was talking about that at one of the community sessions at UDS.  Although he was comparing it to D&D.
[13:44] <JanC> the problem is that in some countries the price for visa depends on what official you meet at arrival etc.  ;)
[13:45] <JanC> not to mention that airplane tickets to the same location might vary between 50 and 500 € sometimes
[13:45] <nigelb> http://www.worldtravelguide.net/singapore/passport-visa Interesting
[13:46] <nigelb> ok, it looks like the rains a bit less.  Time to go home \o/
[13:55] <dholbach> hey jono
[13:55] <jono> hey dholbach
[13:56] <dholbach> jono, I started feeding work items into the blueprints - is it enough to set the "series goal"?
[13:56] <dholbach> and how are you doing? had a good trip back?
[13:57] <jono> dholbach, cool beans - yeah, now is the time to start populating blueprints
[13:57] <daker> popey, JanC http://www.worldtravelguide.net/morocco/passport-visa
[13:57] <jono> don't worry about the series goal yet
[13:57] <jono> good flight thanks :)
[13:57] <dholbach> jono, I think I can't set it anyway, I can just 'propose' it
[13:58] <jono> dholbach, cool
[13:58] <dholbach> jono, I'm just waiting to see how many work items I end up with :)
[13:58] <jono> dholbach, wise
[14:01] <dholbach> jono, ok, it seems you need to accept them for them to get on the work item tracker - I'll leave the rest up to you :)
[14:01] <jono> dholbach, sounds good
[14:01] <dholbach> gracias
[14:02] <daker> popey, JanC there is ~50 countries that they need just a passport
[14:02] <daker> including USA, UK and other countries
[14:11] <sense> good afternoon
[14:13] <daker> good afternoon sense
[14:14] <sense> hi daker
[14:17] <jono> dholbach, hey, I know you are tired, we can cancel our call if you want to head off and grab some sleep or chill?
[14:18] <dholbach> jono, I doubt we have much to talk about yet, I'll just plough through some of the easy stuff that doesn't require all my brain during the time :)
[14:19] <jono> dholbach, sure - just focus on getting the BPs ready, and then lets review them later this week
[14:19] <jono> make sure the workload is doable
[14:19] <dholbach> jono, blueprints are ready, specs will take longer
[14:20]  * duanedesign waves at everyone
[14:21] <jono> dholbach, thanks
[14:40] <Technoviking> morning all
[14:40] <duanedesign> morning Technoviking
[14:41] <duanedesign> Technoviking: latest work on the forums looks great
[14:41] <Technoviking> duanedesign: thanks for the UDS session pics, they were  a big help
[14:42] <Technoviking> duanedesign: thanks, going to see how hard it will be to change the header now
[14:42] <duanedesign> Technoviking: ok great! I was not sure if they went through :P I was dealing with airport wiFi.
[14:42] <Technoviking> I love the MCO airport, compared to most it is great services.
[14:44] <Pici> It was empty compared to EWR.
[14:45] <Pici> Or maybe the Continental terminal is just like that.
[14:55]  * dholbach takes the dog for a walk
[15:18] <scott-work> dholbach: when you get back would you stop in #ubuntustudio-devel?  we wanted to ask you some questions about xwax please
[15:19] <doctormo> Morning everyone
[15:20] <scott-work> good morning doctormo
[15:20] <Pici> Howdy
[15:20] <doctormo> I feel great now, socially recharged. Now to hold onto UDS-buzz for as long as possible :-)
[15:21] <Pici> Heh, I've been thinking the same.
[15:30] <jono> kim0, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-dev-training-events
[15:48] <jussi> MCO was horrible - or at least the delta terminal was...
[15:49] <sense> MCO feels a bit old and past its glory days, but I liked the free wifi.
[15:49] <sense> AMS is much less boring and more comfortable, but there is no free internet!
[15:49] <sense> You have to pay KPN for it.
[15:49]  * jussi is spoiled though, with helsinki vantaa...
[15:49] <sense> jussi: Comfort and free wifi?
[15:49] <jussi> sense: yup
[15:50] <sense> ah!
[15:50] <jussi> and modern to boot
[15:50] <sense> That is nice as well.
[15:51] <sense> AMS is a mix of older buildings, new buildings and stuff to link that.
[15:51] <sense> jussi: But! Is HEL in a lake? AMS is!
[15:52] <sense> The water is gone, but it is a lake!
[15:52] <jussi> sense: no,but its next to one :P
[15:52] <sense> jussi: A lake? In Finland? Huh?
[15:53] <jussi> lol
[15:53] <jussi> yeah, we only have like 188000 of them... :P
[15:54] <sense> What is the lake-per-capita ratio?
[15:54] <jussi> hrm...
[15:54] <jussi> well if we have a little over 5 million people...
[15:54] <sense> You beat Norway there!
[15:54] <sense> Anyway, that is not even one lake per person?
[15:55] <sense> Finland's LPC is 0.0375776
[15:58] <jussi> right. so population: 5,313,399 (2008) and lakes: 187,888
[16:01] <sense> Number of Dutch: http://www.cbs.nl/nl-NL/menu/themas/bevolking/cijfers/extra/bevolkingsteller.htm
[16:01] <sense> ah! One more than when I last looked.
[16:01] <sense> Congratulations to the new parents.
[16:01] <sense> 16.644.700
[16:09] <Technoviking> safety tip: never post a mac screenshot :)
[16:11] <sense> Technoviking: for personal safety reasons, or for technical safety reasons?
[16:11] <Technoviking> personal safety
[16:12] <sense> ah
[16:16] <jcastro> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/canonical-community.html
[16:16] <jcastro> we are doomed!
[16:16] <dholbach> jcastro, already?
[16:17] <doctormo> scott-work: Do we have a wacom daily ppa?
[16:17] <dholbach> jcastro, still waiting for Jono to accept a bunch of blueprints :)
[16:17] <jono> dholbach, expect to wait a little longer, I am un screwing my inbox
[16:17] <paultag> OK, well my internet is dead. I'm mooching off my neighbors, but I can't stick on it, it's so laggy. I'll be on email if anyone needs me, be sure to pass on the word
[16:17] <scott-work> doctormo:  i am not aware of one
[16:17] <paultag> much love
[16:17] <dholbach> jono, enjoy
[16:17] <jono> dholbach, and I will approve them when we have reviewed them on a call and discussed the actions
[16:17] <jono> so you don't have too much to do ;-)
[16:18] <jcastro> ugh you gotta be kidding me
[16:18] <sense> jcastro: Two todo-items! O Noes!
[16:19] <jcastro> beginner team's already done 2 work items
[16:19] <scott-work> doctormo:  to be honest, after your last comments about lack of developers/development i was concerned that this might be dead
[16:20] <doctormo> scott-work: Not dead, just undernourished.
[16:20] <doctormo> scott-work: I'm working on getting the wacom project people more involved with having ubuntu support instead of recommended compiling in upstream docs.
[16:21] <doctormo> I also had the chance to talk with Ping Cheng of Wacom at UDS.
[16:21] <scott-work> doctormo: oh, do tell :)
[16:23] <doctormo> scott-work: It's probably better if I try to join the dots than attempt to do programming ;-) But yeah I think a ppa for daily builds, some announcements upstream and some clearing on the ubuntu forums and wiki should put us in good form.  I also found a wacom-utils python package which does the job of allowing the user to set preferences for their wacom.
[16:24] <scott-work> outstanding
[16:27] <jcastro> stepping out for caffeine
[16:27] <jcastro> bbiab
[17:24] <jcastro> I've finally reached inbox 1!
[17:24] <jcastro> where "1" means, one page!
[17:27] <dholbach> haha
[17:27] <dholbach> sweet
[17:28] <duanedesign> :)
[17:36] <jcastro> jono: is it worth having our call today? I would prefer a day to catch up. A deferrment to tomorrow would help me out
[17:36] <jcastro> my WI's are kind of a big pile right now
[17:36] <jono> jcastro, no worries, but can we have a really quick call now about something different?
[17:36] <jcastro> yeah
[17:36] <jcastro> skype or ... ?
[17:37] <jono> skype
[17:37] <jono> calling
[17:37] <jcastro> 20 secs to test mic
[17:37] <jcastro> wait!
[17:38] <jcastro> ok i'm good!
[17:56] <dholbach> ok, enough messing around with specs & blueprints today - it's dinner time - see you all tomorrow
[17:56]  * dholbach hugs you all
[18:02] <jcastro> popey: hmm, looks like the friday sessions and lightning talks and summary videos didn't make it yet?
[18:35] <Technoviking> jcastro: how long will you be doing Unity Q7A and Ask Ubuntu>
[18:36] <jcastro> Technoviking: I guess it's ongoing, the DX guys are on it now and most of the major questions are answered so you can unsticky if you want
[18:37] <Technoviking> jcastro: thanks, We will have a new stick in the NAtty subforum
[18:45] <Technoviking> what is the design team channel?
[18:48] <Pici> #ayatana ?
[18:50] <Technoviking> Pici: thanks
[18:51] <Pici> Or maybe thats the dx team.  /me shrugs
[18:52] <doctormo> jcastro: Unity, why will the user be required to install a package to enable normal gnome desktop when it's installed already for the fallback?
[18:56] <jcastro> yes
[18:56] <jcastro> unless your hw doesn't support unity
[18:56] <jcastro> and then you'll get "classic" gnome anyway
[19:05] <jcastro> Technoviking: the UDS session forum people still hate me? :)
[19:05] <Technoviking> jcastro: I never knew sigs were so important to people
[19:06] <jcastro> heh
[19:06] <jcastro> I gave up too and just added a sig
[19:06] <jcastro> when in Rome
[19:06] <Technoviking> I never have had a long sig, always hated people who did
[19:07] <Technoviking> the forum rank I created are been hit though, and make the flow of info on the screen well
[19:07] <Technoviking> hopefully I can convice people 2 lines, no color, no graphics sig will look alot more modern
[19:10] <jcastro> this must be some kind of joke
[19:10] <jcastro> it's already 3:10pm
[19:12] <Technoviking> hell, a stream pipe exploded outside my building and I missed it.
[19:13] <Technoviking> Too busy and losing my hearing to Severed Fifth:)
[20:17] <doctormo> jcastro: I had a bit of trouble with my net connection, so if you responded, I didn't see it.
[20:18] <jcastro> yes
[20:18] <jcastro> unless your hw doesn't support unity
[20:18] <jcastro> and then you'll get "classic" gnome anyway
[20:21] <jcastro> doctormo: ^
[20:21] <jono> jcastro, erk, I don't think it was wise to announce the proceedings
[20:21] <jono> remember we are distilling them into an edited document of proceedings
[20:21] <jono> that is what I wanted us to announce
[20:22] <doctormo> jcastro: So say your hardware does support unity and you still want classic gnome. Why do you have to install an extra package for that?
[20:22] <jcastro> jono: oh ok, what should I do?
[20:23] <jono> jcastro, no biggie, just leave your blog as it is
[20:23] <jcastro> doctormo: we don't ask you if you want firefox/epiphany, evo/tbird, etc. either?
[20:23] <jcastro> jono: I'll update with a "these are in progress and raw"
[20:23] <jcastro> but that won't bump it on planet
[20:23] <jono> thanks
[20:23] <doctormo> jcastro: Er no, what I mean to ask is why is there a technical requirement to install something that is already installed.
[20:24] <jono> hmmm did I read somewhere that there is a libreoffice dailly build?
[20:24] <jcastro> there are some upstream
[20:24] <jcastro> let me find them
[20:24] <jono> cheers
[20:25] <jcastro> jono: UPDATE: As many of you have pointed out, these are raw and in some cases don’t even make sense since they’re pasted in from people furiously typing into gobby documents. They’ll be polished as the week progresses.
[20:25] <jono> thanks
[20:25] <jono> jcastro, I am asking the leads to summarize outcomes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSProceedings/N/Final
[20:25] <jono> and then I will put them into a properly laid out PDF and release it
[20:25] <jcastro> ah, rock and roll
[20:25] <jono> :)
[20:27] <jcastro> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta2/deb/
[20:27] <jcastro> hmm, I have a WI to talk to meeks anyway, I'll add it to the agenda
[20:27] <jcastro> I saw some floating around
[20:28] <jcastro> but that's as official as I can find
[20:28] <doctormo> jcastro: Should I point my question at the desktop/foundations team? they might be able to answer the technical point.
[20:28] <jcastro> doctormo: I don't get your question
[20:28] <jcastro> but yeah, probably
[20:28] <doctormo> I want people to be sure that what we say they will have to do, is actually what they will have to do. Even when it seems illogical.
[20:28] <jcastro> I don't know how you would fit both desktops on the same CD
[20:29] <doctormo> jcastro: That's a requirement anyway, for fallback.
[20:29] <jcastro> yeah I don't know how they will do that, it's a good question
[20:29] <jcastro> doctormo: send it to -desktop, half the desktop team is on holiday today
[20:30] <doctormo> thanks!
[20:32] <jcastro> jono: did you see meek's libreoffice contributor graph?
[20:32] <jcastro> http://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2010-10-25.html
[20:33] <jcastro> hey doctormo
[20:33] <jcastro> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/performance-desktop-n-install-footprint
[20:33] <jcastro> that should have some answers
[20:33] <jcastro> unity is only 2.5mb!
[20:34] <jcastro> man I had no ideas changelogs are like 28megs!!
[20:36] <doctormo> Looks like classic will stay, I'll send the email anyways for clarification.
[20:37] <jcastro> doctormo: ask them to clarify it in the spec too
[20:37] <jcastro> that will make it obvious
[20:39] <doctormo> sent
[20:41] <doctormo> That libre-office  graph is cool, wonderful to see what dropping a contributors assignment can do ;-P
[21:50] <jono> anyone running natty yet?
[21:56] <AlanBell> I am planning to upgrade the chickens from Kubuntu 10.04 to Kubuntu 10.10 tomorrow
[22:03] <sense> czajkowski: Awesome picture at <http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072457032_AvoXD>! :P
[23:12] <AlanBell> not often you can do lipreading from a static photograph


[15:39] <twojukeboksi> I'd like to thank the devels of Ubuntu Studio. I've now installed 4 instances and it works really nicely and I'm teaching my friends how to use theirs and it is advancing
[15:42] <twojukeboksi> Both of them have the US on a 2nd hand business laptop with far superior everything than their old Windows hypermarket-machines so adhering to the Finnish saying fi."hiljaa hyvä tulee" == en."[doing] slowly good comes" and we have all together raised GNU/Linuxens marketshare on the desktop.
[15:49] <twojukeboksi> This recollection is perhaps not precise, but I think I put my US to sleep with JACK on and then woke it up and I didn't need to restart JACK, Qsynth etc, but I may have just not been paying attention to doing these things
[15:51] <twojukeboksi> It'd be awesome if not need to restart JACK, Qsynth and connect the midi controller again to Qsynth in Carla, but if that is undoable, perhaps I could put something in fall asleep and wake from sleep scripts. At least like automatic shutdown of JACK before sleep, so I don't need to do it by hand
[15:57] <skycandy[m]> Maik: So, I'm on with the new installation of the Ubuntu Studio 20.04.1 now... It is very nice to migrate it with my Backup'z on a new Samsung M2 SSD NVMe...
[16:11] <twojukeboksi> My relative was buying a phone, so I noticed the phone had NVMe-controller, I had not seen any phone before that uses it. Much faster than spinning clay disks SATAIII
[18:26] <MaynardWaters> twojukeboksi: thats great to hear that you are having a good experience with Ubuntu Studio, I'll cheers the developers as well


[10:14] <ceil420> tovella, adaptr said something about a kernel update throwin' off my xorg.conf; do you know what i need to change to get it back to the way it was?
[10:14] <CTho> kitche: well, i want to choose the exact same options as the officail package used.
[10:14] <jrib> !w32codecs > AmBAr (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:14] <CTho> kitche: can't i grab an unstable / testing package somehow?
[10:14] <vox754> CptAJ[ve] , if you can make the midi manufacturers to release drives for linux then you are good
[10:14] <younghacker> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[10:14] <kitche> CTho: ok grab the .config file from the packages then
[10:14] <AmBAr> jrib thanks
[10:14] <jason__> i know what automatix is
[10:14] <kitche> younghacker: /usr/include/linux/ most likely
[10:15] <younghacker> thanks
[10:15] <jason__> i want to install it under kubutn
[10:15] <CTho> kitche: i don't know what that means
[10:15] <tovella> ceil420: yes and no.  i'd have to refresh my recollection of how to do it.
[10:15] <kitche> CTho: .config is what holds the options
[10:15] <kitche> jason__: well automatix is not supported her
[10:15] <LjL> jason__: i thought the bot would have made it clear to you that this is NOT the right place to ask about that.
[10:15] <ProN00b> vox754, its not only flash
[10:15] <kitche> here*
[10:15] <ceil420> tovella, Section Device > driver "nvidia" <=- that's how it should be, isn't it?
[10:15] <CTho> kitche: oh...
[10:15] <CTho> kitche: won't this mean that dpkg will not know what i really have installed?
[10:15] <kitche> Ctho: you can load it
[10:15] <CTho> kitche: is that not likely to mess with future upgrade attempts?
[10:15] <kitche> Ctho: it will only know if you grab the package for it
[10:15] <jason__> well how to install frostwire under kubuntu
[10:15] <garthhh> i think im just going to wipe all of my hard drives and start fresh
[10:16] <LjL> !frostwire > jason__    (jason__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:16] <vox754> ProN00b, I don't know, but there are instructions for other things. Better using 32 bit then.
[10:16] <adaptr> ceil420 rename the current xorg.conf and restore the backup that was made by the upgrade
[10:16] <ceil420> tovella, i went through all this months ago, installing nvidia-glx or something, then other versions, and went back and forth in xorg.conf changing it from "nv" to "nvidia" and whatnot; i made so many changes, I can't remember what finally worked in the end :(
[10:16] <nicklas> Do anyone know how to install drivers for an D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G630 for notebooks?
[10:16] <kitche> CTho: only if you want your kernel to be the same as ubuntu's but most likely no if you still have the ubuntu kernel installed
[10:16] <ProN00b> vox754, well, its only two things, thats not much
[10:16] <ceil420> adaptr, i'll try that
[10:16] <kitche> !frostwire | jason__
[10:16] <ubotu> jason__: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:16] <nicklas> Do anyone know how to install drivers for an D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G630 for notebooks?
[10:16] <CTho> kitche: i just need the lm_sensors update in 2.6.22 and don't want to break anything
[10:16] <tovella> ceil420: same here.  i had a machine with nvidia drivers, but got rid of it months ago.
[10:17] <kitche> CTho: well you would have to use either a 3rd party repo or gutsy might have it but that will still break your system most likely
[10:17] <CTho> kitche: gutsy does hvae the right version of the kernel...
[10:18] <tovella> ceil420: one thing you could do (in the interim) is reconfigure your computer to use the standard vga driver, then update your nvidia stuff, & restart xserver, again.
[10:18] <countzero> can anyone look at this and tell me why it doesn't work?
[10:18] <countzero> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28144/
[10:18] <ceil420> adaptr, re-named xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup1, and xorg.conf.backup to xorg.conf; is that all i need to do?
[10:19] <ceil420> tovella, hopefully using the backup xorg.conf will be enough, but yeah i'll try that if it's not
[10:19] <MSIGuy> So, I've been having some problems with codecs on my machine.
[10:19] <MSIGuy> I installed the Ubuntu-Restricted Codec Pack, but still had some problems playing MP3's under anything but Totem.
[10:19] <adaptr> ceil420 try that, yes
[10:19] <ceil420> adaptr, there was also a xorg.conf_backup_DATETIME file, is that the one i was supposed to change?
[10:19] <adaptr> ceil420 if that doesn't work, the acvtual nvidia driver was messed up
[10:19] <d4rkmonkey> coool! IRC In gaim :D
[10:19] <MSIGuy> I uninstalled the Restricted Codec Pack, now is there something else I should try, or should I just reinstall it?
[10:20] <adaptr> ceil420 that depends on what the time and date were, of course
[10:20] <tovella> ceil420: i don't think so due to the kernel update.  another thing you could do is reboot, then press the Tab key to get to the Grub menu & choose the previous version of the kernel.
[10:20] <ceil420> adaptr,<PHONE_NUMBER>28 :x too many digits for me to make something of it
[10:20] <ceil420> i just assume it's a date because of the 2007
[10:20] <vox754> countzero, "sudo mount -f -t ntfs -o ro /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1"
[10:21] <Ominous> whats the best way to get/install drivers for my ati x300 card?
[10:21] <tovella> ceil420: indeed, it is the date of the last version of xorg.conf
[10:21] <vox754> countzero, it is telling you that you better plug that drive to a windows machine to cleanly remove it.
[10:21] <tovella> ceil420: ...date & time.
[10:22] <countzero> vox754 I put in the command, and nothing happened.
[10:22] <asherZ> Hi i am running fiesty with compiz fusion on a nvidia 6800, i would like to try out compiz fusion with XGL is it worth it?
[10:22] <Ind[y] > A (normally) moving .gif image does not "move" in my Ubuntu. Why? Any hints please?
[10:22] <countzero> vox754 yes, that's why I wonder if it's less hassle to just reformat it.
[10:23] <tovella> Ind[y] : moving from where to where?
[10:23] <DrNick1> Ind[y] : what does it not move in?  by "move" do you mean animate?
[10:23] <countzero> vox754 I don't have a windows machine anymore:)
[10:23] <Ind[y] > tovella: No. I mean with motion.
[10:23] <Ind[y] > DrNick1: sorry, yes.
[10:23] <ocha> i've been reading up on this crazy thingy do-da called remote access, does ubuntu not come with anything to use remote control access?
[10:23] <tovella> Ind[y] : ahh, i see.
[10:23] <d4rkmonkey> /server home.ia-net.net
[10:23] <vox754> countzero, maybe it is already mounted, so unmount it like "sudo umount /dev/sdb1"  and then mount it again. Break into your neighbor's house just to plug the drive, and the flee!
[10:23] <d4rkmonkey> ooo..
[10:24] <d4rkmonkey> I don't know if I like pidgin as IRC...
[10:24] <DrNick1> Ind[y] : they don't animate as icons as far as i know, only in web-pages i think
[10:24] <Ind[y] > DrNick1: ok other OSes it animates
[10:24] <Ind[y] > s/ok/on
[10:24] <tovella> Ind[y] : ...animated gif.
[10:24] <Ind[y] > tovella: yes
[10:24] <DarkLady_> mmm... how can I use the irc channels on gaim?
[10:25] <DrNick1> Ind[y] : where do you mean?  as far as i recall the icons don't animate in anything (do they?)
[10:25] <vox754> countzero, and I've already told you a million times, use gparted to repartition and format it!
[10:25] <AmBAr> is true that w32codecs no more are on ubuntu repositories becouse are considered ilegal ?
[10:25] <PriceChild> AmBAr, yes
[10:25] <ceil420> adaptr, tovella, sorry, our house's wiring is messed up, and lately whenever someone uses a kitchen appliance, it throws the circuit. For reasons known only to the people that wired our house, my room is connected ;x (but when i booted this time, i didn't even get an nvidia splash screen. it was black, then it flickered a half page of text, then it was black again with the "waiting" cursor)
[10:25] <Ind[y] > DrNick1: It doesn't have motion on my Ubuntu, where on (eg) a win32 machine it has motion. As you view it with the "Open Image" functionality.
[10:25] <POVaddct> !w32codecs | AmBAr
[10:25] <ubotu> AmBAr: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[10:25] <PriceChild> AmBAr, however go medibuntu, or seveas' repos for them
[10:26] <vicox> Ind[y] : simply open the .gif with your browser
[10:26] <AmBAr>  !w32codecs
[10:26] <AmBAr> !w32codecs
[10:26] <ceil420> adaptr, so it looks like switching xorg.conf and xorg.conf.backup didn't work :x
[10:26] <ceil420> adaptr, i'm gonna try the date coded one now
[10:26] <POVaddct> AmBAr: read what ubotu said
[10:26] <tovella> ceil420: you need an uninteruptable power supply (UPS).
[10:27] <Ind[y] > vicox: :/
[10:27] <Ind[y] > ok
[10:27] <ceil420> tovella, yes, i do -_-
[10:27] <countzero> vox754: sorry, it must have slipped past me.
[10:27] <AmBAr> POVaddct thanks
[10:27] <vox754> countzero, you must be kidding!
[10:27] <countzero> vox754: how do I use gparted?
[10:27] <tovella> ceil420: that adds another piece to the puzzle.  it means you could have experienced corruption of some other files.
[10:27] <countzero> vox754: no, not at all.
[10:27] <linxeh> has anyone experienced poor X performance with ubuntu when accessing it from an X server running on Windows or OSX? I get the same problems with multiple servers / desktops / networs
[10:28] <cupps> How come gSopCast closes everytime I try to launch a stream?
[10:28] <vox754> !gparted | countzero
[10:28] <ubotu> countzero: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:28] <CAL|Smeltn`> so is Beryl pretty good?
[10:28] <ceil420> adaptr, tovella, "Failed to start the X server, it is likely that it's not set up correctly" :x
[10:28] <Ind[y] > What does a purple dot after the IRC nickname, mean? Like: green --> channel operator, orange --> voice, So, purple --> ?
[10:28] <Ind[y] > In X-Chat.
[10:29] <CTho> Ind[y] : half op
[10:29] <CTho> err
[10:29] <shakefu> hey -- "Error Reading Boot CD" anyone ?
[10:29] <Ind[y] > CTho: No, they are above the ops o.O
[10:29] <kitche> Ind[y] : is it like Chanserv and such?
[10:29] <CTho> Ind[y] : for me, ops are green, halfops blue, voice orange
[10:29] <kitche> Ind[y] : it could be network ops or network services
[10:29] <Ind[y] > CTho: me too. but purple = what?
[10:29] <tovella> ceil420: at this point, i'm wondering how much your unstable power problems have contributed to this problem.
[10:30] <Ind[y] > ok, thanks
[10:30] <ceil420> adaptr, tovella, "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!" apparently that date coded xorg.conf backup is worse that the non-dated one :x
[10:30] <ceil420> +than
[10:30] <MSIGuy> !codec > MSIGuy
[10:31] <shakefu> anyone ?
[10:31] <shakefu> i have installed several ubuntu versions before without this issue.
[10:31] <kbrooks> AmBAr, yes.
[10:31] <countzero> vox754: i've installed gparted. now what?
[10:31] <tovella> ceil420: since the date of your previous xorg.conf is from april, i no longer think that's the problem.  this problem came up much more recently than that.
[10:31] <kbrooks> AmBAr, but seveaas repo has win32codecs
[10:31] <cupps> Can anyone here help me with sopcast?
[10:32] <Jordan_U> ceil420, What happens when you run: sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:32] <ekso> if during the reinstallation ubuntu doesn't find the previous users (even with /home in a separate partition), will i loose something from /home?
[10:32] <vox754> countzero, now open it, then select your drive, delete the partitions, create a new partition ext3, save changes and you are good. But first unmount the drive, you can touch it if it is still mounted.
[10:32] <ceil420> tovella, if that date in the ls -l output is the file creation date, all three xorg.conf files were made in april
[10:32] <Ominous_> i have ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run how do i run it?
[10:32] <Huffameg> help! i'm trying to compile RealPlayer for Linux but i don't understand what to do. it says Download RealPlayer and so I have, and it downloads a .bin file.. how to proceed from here?
[10:32] <Jordan_U> Ominous, Did restricted manager not work?
[10:33] <kitche>  Huffameg: ./<file>.run but might want to look at HelixPlayer
[10:33] <shakefu> any help at all on "error reading boot cd" when trying the desktop iSO?
[10:33] <countzero> vox754: how do I open it?I'm a newbie!
[10:33] <jack|Helium> Huffameg: install VLC instead ;-)
[10:33] <tovella> ceil420: exactly.  it hasn't changed since april, but this problem just came up within the last day or two, right?
[10:33] <candelaresi> hello
[10:33] <ceil420> Jordan_U, "FATAL: could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko' No such file
[10:33] <ceil420> tovella, yeah
[10:33] <candelaresi> my english it`snt good...
[10:33] <candelaresi> someone can help????
[10:33] <jack|Helium> candelaresi: what's you native language?
[10:34] <Ominous_> Jordan_U : thanks
[10:34] <vox754> countzero, you don't ask those questions! (we already know your a nub!)  click your panel for applications and installed things under system, and stuff! man you seriously fail under Windows also
[10:34] <xiven> Hey...can I gave the gnome panel(top and bottom) a custom image for a background instead of grey color?
[10:34] <candelaresi> spanish...
[10:34] <Huffameg> jack|Helium: i'm trying to stream a radio show and i tells me to download RealPlayer. I allready have VLC - how would I use it like that?
[10:34] <tovella> ceil420: given your power problems, i'm really leaning toward file corruption as the culprit.
[10:34] <gnomefreak> !es | candelaresi
[10:34] <ubotu> candelaresi: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:34] <candelaresi> but in de spanish chanel they can help my
[10:34] <jack|Helium> candelaresi: theres a spanish IRC
[10:34] <Huffameg> jack|Helium: it's like it doesn't detect vlc at all..
[10:34] <ekso> hello, i'm trying to re-install ubuntu, but it doesn't find the previous users on the actual installation. if i proceed and reinstall, will I loose any files from /home/<users>? and if after installation i create a user "ekso", will it use the previous /home/ekso without losing any files?
[10:34] <ceil420> tovella, so how do i make a non-corrupt file?
[10:34] <countzero> I came here to get help, not get insulted by an asberger guy.
[10:34] <jack|Helium> Huffameg
[10:35] <candelaresi> they can not help me...
[10:35] <Jordan_U> candelaresi, What is your question?
[10:35] <jack|Helium> Huffameg: probably you need a FF plugin or something
[10:35] <kitche> Huffameg: well vlc doesn't have a plugin it's most likely looking for a plugin type of browser
[10:35] <CptAJ[ve] > jrib: thanks, midi is working now
[10:35] <vox754> countzero, just click on things! is that so hard?
[10:35] <candelaresi> i need to open a windows`s hlp file
[10:35] <candelaresi> in my ubuntu
[10:35] <countzero> vox754: and it's not on the panel for installed stuff.
[10:35] <ceil420> tovella, i'm willing to go through the nvidia driver installation process again from scratch, if someone's willing to tell me how to do it :x i know i need nvidia-glx, but i don't know about anything else i need to do
[10:35] <jack|Helium> Huffameg: you could get the exact address of the file you need to play, and then enter that in VLC
[10:35] <Huffameg> kitche: okay.. so then I have to install RealPlayer anyway..
[10:35] <Huffameg> ?
[10:35] <lazz0> roflmaowsjakpdiobwcr @ asberger guy :)))
[10:35] <tovella> ceil420: when a file becomes corrupt, it's like many other things. no turning back.
[10:36] <kitche> Huffameg: sudo apt-get install helix-player
[10:36] <jack|Helium> Huffameg: I'm not sure there's a realplayer for linux browser plugin either...
[10:36] <ekso> anyone? :(
[10:36] <candelaresi> i need to open a windows`s hlp file in my ubuntu...
[10:36] <hypn0> candelaresi: I saw an app over at getdeb.net to do that I believe
[10:36] <Slart> anyone know of a reason to buy/not to buy an intel core duo, to run ubuntu on?
[10:36] <homanj> ekso: not quite sure, but if you reinstall, normally all files are gone from that partition
[10:36] <ceil420> tovella, How optimistic of you.
[10:36] <Slart> as opposed to an AMD 64 x2
[10:36] <kitche> Huffameg: then sudo apt-get install mozilla-helix-player to get the plugin
[10:36] <homanj> ekso: i would backup everything you want to keep
[10:36] <ekso> homanj: oh well... ok, thanks
[10:36] <tovella> ceil420: the biggest problem is that in such situations (unstable power) it's terribly difficult to determine which files have become corrupt.
[10:36] <ekso> i will backup then
[10:37] <jack|Helium> Slart: Intel might have better support, but I don't know
[10:37] <countzero> well, I'm off. three of you failed to help me, and I got abuse to top it off.
[10:37] <homanj> ekso: its a good habit to get into anyways
[10:37] <Jordan_U> candelaresi, install helpdeco
[10:37] <jack|Helium> Slart: Intel prabably has a faster FSB
[10:37] <candelaresi> from synaptic???
[10:37] <xiven> Hello?
[10:37] <newmark> hi, someone here with voodoo 3 card?
[10:37] <tovella> ceil420: if you had a recent backup, there's more that could be done.
[10:37] <kitche> Huffameg: helix-player is the open source version of Real Player pretty much
[10:37] <Jordan_U> candelaresi, Yes
[10:37] <newmark> hi, someone here with voodoo 3 card?
[10:37] <candelaresi> oks
[10:38] <matt__> man
[10:38] <xiven> How can I give the gnome top and bottom panel's custom colors?
[10:38] <tovella> ceil420: do you have an external drive - someplace to backup files to?
[10:38] <Slart> jack|Helium: ok, considering I'm running ubuntu now on an amd 64 x2 without any major problems an intel core duo should be fine, no =)
[10:38] <ekso> homanj: yes, but it's just that it's not very much important stuff, mostly themes, images and installation files. but anyways, out to backup the important stuff
[10:38] <ekso> tks!!
[10:38] <nixnoob> can someone explain the "tickless" kernel to me/
[10:38] <homanj> ekso: look at putting /home on its own partition
[10:38] <ceil420> tovella, you're still just assuming that my whole problem is file corruption, and not issues with an updated kernel. I'm not willing to give up so easily. And if i had an external drive, i'd back up more often; as it is, i don't even have blank CDs right now
[10:38] <jack|Helium> Slart: probably, I've not heard any coplaints about those chips. Also, they are very, very overclockable
[10:38] <Huffameg> kitche: thanks!
[10:39] <tovella> ceil420: what about some space on your existing drive?
[10:39] <ekso> homanj: yes yes, it is on its own partition. but the installation is not "finding any users on it"
[10:39] <Slart> jack|Helium: ok, thanks for your help
[10:39] <jack|Helium> Slart: yvw, glad I could help
[10:39] <homanj> ekso: ah, interesting.
[10:39] <tovella> ceil420: ...unused partition?
[10:39] <antihero1> how do i display the users list in gnome-xchat?? can I ?
[10:40] <homanj> ekso: i am not sure if adding a user will overwrite stuff
[10:40] <tovella> ceil420: ...or unpartitioned space?
[10:40] <ceil420> tovella, it's an unpartitioned 20gig hard drive. I have an 80gig drive i use for music and movies, but it has write issues at the moment. Either way, I'd rather have the problem fixed before i start backing up files
[10:40] <candelaresi> Jordan_U. oks... i installed the helpdeco,,, but what is the aplication to open de hlp??
[10:40] <homanj> ekso: let me know what happens, :)
[10:40] <xiven> Wow
[10:40] <kitche> antihero1: it might be there go to the right side of the window and see if there looks like a small slit
[10:40] <xiven> I have a really customed Desktop now lol
[10:40] <candelaresi> Jordan_U. oks... i installed the helpdeco,,, but what is the aplication to open the hlp??
[10:40] <ekso> homanj: okey :)
[10:40] <ceil420> tovella, the 20gig only has about 8gig free space left
[10:41] <adaptr> ceil420 what you want to do is run "sudo aptitude search restricted" and see which says "i(nstalled)" in the left column - it should match your current kernel EXACTLY
[10:41] <Milan-> Hi all! I'm trying to debug Gaim but gdb cannot report infos on backtrace. I installed gaim-dbg but I still get no traces. WHat should  I do ?
[10:41] <neoby> how to get compiler?
[10:41] <adaptr> !build
[10:41] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:41] <antihero1> kitche: hmm, no it's nothing like the channel list
[10:41] <bruenig> neoby, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:41] <LordLimecat> i need to install grub on my harddrive, and i cant seem to find the "stage 1" file
[10:41] <tovella> ceil420: what if during your attempt to fix-first, you experience another brownout?  you really need to re-consider doing a backup before going any further.
[10:41] <LordLimecat> im currently in the grub men, anyone know how to do this?
[10:42] <javabyte> how do i reinstall and keep my home/user files - i totally messed up my install and now i'm on a live CD
[10:42] <cupps> Does anyone here know anything about using sopcast... anything?
[10:42] <adaptr> LordLimecat you did not select the right partition as boot
[10:42] <adaptr> javabyte did you put /home on a separate partition ?
[10:42] <hypn0> candelaresi: are chm and hlp files the same?
[10:42] <kitche> javabyte: if your /home is on a seperate partition just reinstall the system but don't touch the one that you have as your /home
[10:42] <LordLimecat> adaptr: grub was installed on another harddrive, apparently, but i want it on this harddrive.  This drive has its own /boot, and all the images ive been using
[10:42] <candelaresi> no
[10:43] <adaptr> LordLimecat yes, but it does NOT have the GRUB files - you have to re-install GRUB
[10:43] <LordLimecat> adaptr: ah--thats what im asking how to do
[10:43] <kitche> !grub | LordLimecat
[10:43] <ubotu> LordLimecat: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:43] <adaptr> LordLimecat do you have access to the old boot partition ?
[10:43] <Huffameg> kitche: i tried and it told me that I lacked a component: audio/x-scpls
[10:43] <dthacker> !anyone | cupps
[10:43] <ubotu> cupps: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:43] <ceil420> adaptr, my kernel is 2.6.20-16-generic; the closest to that i see in output from aptitude is a series of "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20" lines
[10:43] <adaptr> ceil420 yes
[10:44] <adaptr> ceil420 re-read what I said - closely this time
[10:44] <kitche> Huffameg: did you restart your browser after installing the plugins? sometiem that works
[10:44] <javabyte> adaptr + Kitche : looks like no
[10:44] <Huffameg> kitche: yes I did.
[10:44] <Murdoch> Any one any good DVD authoring software
[10:44] <neoby> how to compile kernel to make pc run faster?
[10:44] <bruenig> Murdoch, dvdstyler
[10:44] <Huffameg> kitche: but, as I said, it seems that something is missing.
[10:44] <DShepherd> bruenig, is that in the repos?
[10:45] <nixnoob> i'm thinking of switching distros anyone have any suggestions for a laptop system, something similar to ubuntu but lighter?
[10:45] <ceil420> adaptr, two of them say 'i', four say 'p'. Both of the 2.6.17 ones say 'i'
[10:45] <jrib> nixnoob: have you tried xubuntu?
[10:45] <DShepherd> nixnoob, xubuntu?
[10:45] <magnetron> neoby: the kernel is already as good and fast as it gets, by default
[10:45] <bruenig> DShepherd, not sure, it wasn't when I used it, but the site has a deb for it
[10:45] <supremesonic> nixnoob, xubuntu
[10:45] <geck1> would someone be able to help me with my clock?  I have ntp and ntpdate installed, and I have servers selected, and it's set to synchronize with internet servers...but I can't click the "synchronize now" button (it's greyed out), and it's definitely not displaying the right time, even after I've restarted. Any ideas?
[10:45] <DShepherd> bruenig, ok
[10:45] <nixnoob> jrib I like gnome.
[10:45] <neoby> nixnoob: u can try gentoo
[10:45] <ceil420> adaptr, linux-restricted-modules-generi says 'i' as well
[10:45] <supremesonic> nixnoob, the desktop is the one there take most of the power.
[10:45] <SamJay> Hi, im still kinda new to linux and I have a web server installed (apache, php, mysql etc) and I want to use crontaks/jobs/whatever to execute the code in a php file/script every 5 minutes but i can't seem to find any non overly technical info on this. How would I go about doing this step by step? Thx
[10:46] <magnetron> geck1: you can only click that button when you have set the time for "manual"
[10:46] <neoby> thanks magnetron
[10:46] <erUSUL> geck1: if you have enabled the automatical sync you can not do it manually that's why the option is disabled...
[10:46] <esculapius666> hi
[10:46] <geck1> ok, well either way...it's set to synchronize with internet servers, but its not synchronized. I have the correct time zone etc
[10:46] <SamJay> assuming of course i dont know jack about cron taks by the way....
[10:46] <nixnoob> supremesonic, do you mean in terms of battery life?
[10:46] <kitche> Huffameg: audio/x-scpls is what tells the browser what the file is and such you have to change the default player for that to helix-player
[10:46] <esculapius666> anyone knows how to mount a PCMCIA flash card?
[10:46] <LordLimecat> adaptr: want to verify--given that im installing on /dev/sda, and that that is already mounted to /media/disk-2, the command would be:
[10:46] <LordLimecat> grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk-2 /dev/sda
[10:46] <geck1> It's saying it's 12:30am, and it's 3:50 pm =P
[10:46] <erUSUL> geck1: as to why7 the computer does not sync automatically... dunno need more info
[10:46] <esculapius666> I don't know how
[10:46] <magnetron> geck1: set it to manual and hit the button!
[10:47] <tovella> ceil420: again, a simple (in the interim) fix could be to reboot, selecting your previously installed kernel.
[10:47] <neoby> but domr people compile kernel to make pc run faster..they said faster about 20%
[10:47] <Huffameg> kitche: okay..?
[10:47] <javabyte> aha - Gparted says i have two partitions media/disk1 and linux swap?
[10:47] <ceil420> tovella, you said hit 'tab' while grub is loading, right?
[10:47] <esculapius666> anyone knows how to mount a PCMCIA flash card?
[10:47] <javabyte> does that mean home is on swap?
[10:47] <rickyrich> hi all how can i remove a folder that in the recicle byn say that i cant?
[10:47] <tovella> ceil420: yes, but that was wrong.  it's Esc.
[10:47] <adaptr> LordLimecat grub-install sucks - just use grub directly
[10:47] <cupps> Why does gSopcast quit everytime I input a stream address?
[10:47] <ceil420> tovella, ok
[10:47] <magnetron> geck1: also, ntp is unable to adjust for large time differences. try setting to something more correct
[10:48] <supremesonic> nixnoob, battery time is on how much the computer have to do and how the cpu usage is. If you watch a dvd movie you have to use lot of cpu power and it use more cpu. And more battery time
[10:48] <mariocesar_bo> hi, does anyone knows how to change a screename on pidgin from the console? anyone had an idea how to do that? ^_^
[10:48] <rickyrich> hi all how can i remove a folder that in the recycle bin say that i can't?
[10:48] <adaptr> ceilyou really have to be more specific
[10:48] <kitche> javabyte: swap is swap
[10:48] <pinguim_power> hello
[10:48] <adaptr> bleh
[10:48] <adaptr> hi
[10:48] <javabyte> yeh i got that now - it's only 6gb
[10:49] <kitche> !swap | javabyte
[10:49] <ubotu> javabyte: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[10:49] <big_area> should sshd be running as root?
[10:49] <supremesonic> nixnoob, with a dvd you also have to use your dvd driver. That will also use lot of cpu.
[10:49] <adaptr> javabyte if your home is on swap then you've lost it - or rather, you never had it
[10:49] <magnetron> mariocesar_bo: from the console? why not from the gui?
[10:49] <adaptr> big_area yes
[10:49] <nixnoob> supremesonic, im kinda dissatisfied with the hardware detection in ubuntu, namely my wireless card (rt61) and the battery life... I dunno if theres anything I can do about that...
[10:49] <javabyte> so i need to make a dvd backup of home or something?
[10:49] <big_area> adaptr: thats not a security risk ?
[10:49] <adaptr> javabyte yes, or to a network share, or another disk
[10:49] <mariocesar_bo> magnetron: cause i want to write an script to change it, from time to time
[10:49] <javabyte> if i can get dvd to work on a live CD
[10:50] <adaptr> big_area it's rather the only way for ssh to log you in - how else would you like to do it ?
[10:50] <rickyrich> hi all how can i remove a folder that in the recicle byn say that i cant?
[10:50] <hajhouse> n~.
[10:50] <javabyte> hmm network might be easier
[10:50] <James_> does any body know of a way to install the application wgetpaste on ubuntu?
[10:50] <wackz> help
[10:50] <magnetron> mariocesar_bo: there is a text-version of pidgin, but i don't remember it's name.
[10:50] <javabyte> is there a vnc for ubuntu ?
[10:50] <mariocesar_bo> magnetron: wow, thanks i would search it
[10:50] <James_> javabyte, yes
[10:50] <supremesonic> nixnoob, When you get it to work in linux, it will hold lot better than any other os if you treat it well. However to find the right drivers can be tricky, but ubuntu is the best way to automatic find the drivers.
[10:50] <adaptr> big_area toting around "security risk" without knowing exactly what you're talking about is... well, it'll only show people that you don't know what you're talking about :)
[10:50] <James_> view or server?
[10:50] <javabyte> cool :)
[10:51] <Murdoch> thanks
[10:51] <nixnoob> supremesonic, i have the correct driver and its working....barely....
[10:51] <big_area> adaptr: well that is exactly why i'm asking... i dont know what i'm talkin about. but thanks for the info
[10:51] <neoby> got this error --> http://pastebin.com/940117
[10:51] <At0mic_PC> Is there a program like Easy CD-DA Converter for linux?
[10:51] <nixnoob> supremesonic, i have no problems manually installing drivers.
[10:51] <adaptr> big_area if you want a literal answer: yes, everything is a security risk, and the only solution is to pull the plug
[10:51] <neoby> after build-essential
[10:52] <adaptr> big_area but that's less than useful if you want to do stuff on a network...
[10:52] <supremesonic> nixnoob, I'm still pretty new to *nix systems my self, however if you got any questions on how to install drivers, or how to make them work better just ask. I guess there are many friendly people here there wanna help :)
[10:52] <el_isma> Hi. Anybody has installed nxserver 3?
[10:52] <adaptr> At0mic_PC plenty - try grip
[10:52] <big_area> adaptr: of course, i just wanted to make sure i hadn't set something up incorrectly
[10:52] <James_> Does anyone know if the Gentoo app wgetpaste can be installed on ubuntu??
[10:52] <At0mic_PC> adaptr: Will grip let me convert files to .3gp?
[10:52] <adaptr> big_area did you touch the sshd_config file ?
[10:53] <adaptr> At0mic_PC 3gp is a *video* format
[10:53] <big_area> adaptr: nope
[10:53] <adaptr> big_area then you cannot have screwed it up :)
[10:53] <javabyte> i have realvnc on my old win2k - any way to get krdc or some other linux vnc to talk to it?
[10:53] <ceil420> tovella, loaded the old kernel, and i'm back to the original problem; it shows the nvidia splash twice, then i get a waiting cursor
[10:53] <magnetron> At0mic_PC: you could use avidemux to convert video files
[10:53] <kitche> big_area: sshd actually needs to be ran as root to use port 22 anyways since port 22 is a port that only root can open
[10:53] <hypn0> James_: what is it? a wget gui?
[10:53] <adaptr> big_area you may want to do that anyway, to disable ssh v1 and root logins (basic precautions)
[10:54] <At0mic_PC> adaptr: Also audio. My phone can use the .3gp files as ringtones but not mp3. I don't see why I have to pay for mp3 ringtones. Just trying to stick it to the man. :)
[10:54] <el_isma> I'm installing nxserver 3 and it hangs... Dpkg never finishes. Last line is NX> 709 no statics... ...
[10:54] <James_> hypn0, no, it basically pipes the result of a cat out to a pastebin
[10:54] <adaptr> At0mic_PC I have no idea if there's any tool for that - google around
[10:54] <tovella> ceil420: you replaced xorg.conf, right (put yesterdays back in place)
[10:54] <ceil420> tovella, what's the difference between a normal kernel and a (recovery) one? i just loaded normal 2.6.20-15
[10:54] <ceil420> tovella, yes, i put the old one back in place
[10:54] <bruenig> ceil420, recovery puts you in single user mode
[10:54] <neoby> anyone?? --> http://pastebin.com/940117
[10:54] <big_area> adaptr: ok, is there a cl switch for doin that
[10:54] <bruenig> the kernels are the same
[10:54] <ceil420> bruenig, ah
[10:54] <kitche> ceil420: nothing the one kernel just uses init 1
[10:55] <tovella> ceil420: will get you to a limited terminal session.
[10:55] <At0mic_PC> adaptr: I know there are some, but they have to be hacked together to work and I'm no good at that. ffmpeg for example.
[10:55] <tovella> ceil420: it's used to fix filesystem & other problems, among some other things.
[10:55] <bruenig> At0mic_PC, what's that
[10:55] <ceil420> tovella, i tried with the backup xorg.conf at first, but when that didn't work, i restored it to what i had yesterday. the first time i didn't even see the nvidia splash; after loading yesterday's, i did
[10:55] <ceil420> tovella, oh, i see
[10:55] <adaptr> big_area no, that's where you would edit sshd_config
[10:56] <big_area> ah
[10:56] <At0mic_PC> magnetron: I looked it said something about being able to do mp4 which will work. I just have to rename the extention to .3gp so thanks.
[10:56] <big_area> adaptr: thanks for the advice
[10:56] <adaptr> man sshd_config, and read closely - it's quite simple
[10:56] <taji> hey, im running ubuntu 5.1, is there a way to upgrade to 7 without starting from scratch?
[10:56] <slavik> how do I configure OSS? (I need to change which sound card it uses)
[10:56] <bruenig> taji, upgrade 3 different times
[10:56] <cupps> How can I run sopcast in linux?
[10:56] <bruenig> slavik, why are you using oss
[10:57] <tovella> ceil420: ok so it looks like 1. it's NOT something in you home directory & 2. it probably is not having to do with upgrading your kernel.
[10:57] <At0mic_PC> bruenig: What's what?
[10:57] <slavik> bruenig: I am not, ET/ETF is
[10:57] <taji> i tried the update manager, but it says im out of date :/
[10:57] <xiven> Taji I just did that upgrade actually
[10:57] <magnetron> slavik: use alsa if possible
[10:57] <bruenig> At0mic_PC, nevermind
[10:57] <slavik> and with aoss, sound is choppy
[10:57] <ceil420> tovella, how do i see what nvidia driver i have installed?
[10:57] <taji> xiven, any tips?
[10:57] <hypn0> cupps: you install gsopcast I think :-/
[10:57] <tovella> ceil420: lsmod |grep nv
[10:57] <iShock> Excuse me, what is Beryl Emerald?
[10:57] <xiven> I simply went into sources.list and changed all the breezy's to fiesty's, and did apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:57] <cupps> hypn0: I did... and it closes everytime I attempt to launch an address.
[10:58] <taji> haha "simply"... ok i'll try that
[10:58] <adaptr> ceil420 lsmod | grep nvidia, and compare the size with the nvidia drivers installed in /lib/modules
[10:58] <adaptr> that'll be the one installed and loaded
[10:59] <tovella> ceil420: that will filter the results of "lsmod" to only what contains the letters "nv".
[10:59] <lux2> ...
[10:59] <iShock> Excuse me, what is Beryl Emerald?
[10:59] <supremesonic> !beryl
[10:59] <bruenig> !beryl | iShock
[10:59] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:59] <ubotu> iShock: please see above
[10:59] <supremesonic> lol
[11:00] <magnetron> is there any way to run a complete gnome session via ssh tunneled X11?
[11:00] <t0mor> pease vote on cow army http://bigstarfestival.pl/main.php?id=6&sub=1 :)
[11:00] <frojnd> how do u change password for some user? passwd user newpassword ?
[11:00] <adaptr> yes
[11:00] <__hase> I am installing ubuntu on a ps that only has access to the internet via a wireless usb network adapter and router, I need to know how to install ndiswrapper from a cd after I install ubuntu on the ps
[11:00] <bruenig> frojnd, passwd user, it will then prompt you
[11:01] <slavik> so, how do I change which card OSS uses?
[11:01] <jrib> frojnd: passwd USER      then it prompts you
[11:01] <bruenig> hmmm
[11:01] <iShock> Can anyone tell me more about Beryl?
[11:01] <slavik> !beryl
[11:01] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:01] <bruenig> iShock, #ubuntu-effects, go to their site, come on now pay attention
[11:01] <frojnd> how do u become normal user, if u became super usser with su ??
[11:01] <CommonAlgorithms> Real men use gaybuntu
[11:01] <CommonAlgorithms> http://www.gaybuntu.com/
[11:02] <bruenig> frojnd, su user
[11:02] <iShock> bruenig: No one is un Ubuntu-effects
[11:02] <iShock> And IDK the site
[11:02] <CommonAlgorithms> iShock: http://www.gaybuntu.com/node/3
[11:02] <tovella> bruenig: exit
[11:02] <bruenig> iShock, there are 91
[11:02] <ceil420> can someone tell me how to re-install my video card's driver? i can't think of anything else to do ;x
[11:02] <bruenig> tovella exit will take you to the user you were before using su
[11:02] <iShock> bruenig: I should have said "Active and talking"
[11:02] <bruenig> but you may want to jump to another one
[11:02] <silvertip257> I need an application that will allow me to backup my bios to a file
[11:03] <tovella> bruenig: thought that was what you wanted.
[11:03] <bruenig> iShock, well go ask gentoo since you care not whether your question is on topic or not
[11:03] <slavik> bruenig: sure thing, sprinkle some fairy dust on your card and yell "driver re-install"
[11:03] <slavik>  3 times ...
[11:03] <ceil420> ...
[11:03] <magnetron> frojnd: don't use su, use sudo instead
[11:03] <taji> xiven, is there another name to change to after fiesty?
[11:04] <bruenig> taji, feisty is current
[11:04] <taji> ooh ok :)
[11:04] <slavik> so, how do I change which card OSS uses?
[11:04] <bruenig> !sound | slavik
[11:04] <ubotu> slavik: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:04] <MiLK^> When i try to run the alternative install for ubuntu, my keyboard is over-responsive - eg. if i press up once, it moves up twice on the screen, any way of fixing this?
[11:05] <tovella> frojnd: exit will get you back to normal user.
[11:05] <al3xfur> can anyone help me out on this?  Odd reason i can only hear sounds in my Firefox browser, but I can't hear system sounds such as Gaim
[11:05] <tovella> frojnd: "exit"
[11:05] <bruenig> al3xfur, can you hear them in media players and other applications
[11:05] <frojnd> ok
[11:05] <frojnd> tnx
[11:05] <svennu> Help My dv camcorder won't work anymore with Kino after i installed feisty
[11:05] <al3xfur> well sometimes
[11:05] <bruenig> sometimes?
[11:06] <MiLK^> any ideas?
[11:06] <al3xfur> but when i open firefox and listen to sounds on that it disables it on media players
[11:06] <At0mic_PC> al3xfur: Is it only when sounds are playing like say if you have a video playing then sounds from gaim aren't playing?
[11:06] <Jamesinator> What's the terminal command to launch the Ubuntu/gnome file viewer for a specific location?
[11:06] <al3xfur> yes
[11:06] <slavik> bruenig: that didn't help
[11:06] <jrib> Jamesinator: nautilus /path/to/specific/location
[11:06] <bruenig> Jamesinator, nautilus /path
[11:06] <Jamesinator> Thanks.
[11:06] <frojnd> hm, what's the command to check who uses your username ? or who is on your computer ?
[11:06] <bruenig> again
[11:06] <kitche> frojnd: w or who
[11:06] <tabris|away> who, or finger
[11:06] <tovella> my dogs are looking as though they're thinking about pooping on my floor.  gotta go - later...
[11:06] <At0mic_PC> al3xfur: Is your sound card full duplex?
[11:07] <kitche> frojnd: w has more information but not sure if ubuntu has that
[11:07] <bruenig> slavik, stop using applications that use oss, they must be crap
[11:07] <al3xfur> full duplex?
[11:07] <frojnd> kitche: tnx, I
[11:07] <al3xfur> as in the brand?
[11:07] <MiLK^> anyone? :/
[11:07] <At0mic_PC> No not the brand. What is the brand?
[11:07] <kitche> bruenig: well not really well oss it self is horrible but with alsa it's good :)
[11:07] <al3xfur> Realtek
[11:08] <slavik> bruenig: tell that to John Carmack and the people behind Wolf3D :)
[11:08] <WaxyFresh> how do i mount a  usb drive on 5.10?
[11:09] <kitche> WaxyFresh: mount <device> <mount point>
[11:09] <magnetron> WaxyFresh: by plugging it in a free usb port
[11:09] <bruenig> 5.10 had hal?
[11:09] <bruenig> I don't remember
[11:09] <slavik> yes
[11:09] <bruenig> I guess it probably did
[11:09] <MiLK^> When i try to run the alternative install for ubuntu, my keyboard is over-responsive - eg. if i press up once, it moves up twice on the screen, any way of fixing this?
[11:10] <ceil420> -_-
[11:10] <WaxyFresh> kitche: whats the rest of the mount comands? i want to mount it to /media/disk/
[11:10] <iShock> !beryl
[11:10] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:10] <bruenig> MiLK^, can you work around it to get it installed
[11:10] <iShock> o
[11:10] <b0ha>   how can i set permessions to -rw--r--r?
[11:10] <MiLK^> bruenig - no because it does the same with Enter key, so it jumps through two menus at once...
[11:11] <jrib> !permissions > b0ha (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:11] <kitche> WaxyFresh: mount -t vfat <device> /media/disk/
[11:11] <Yodude> hello, is there any way i can propose something to the art team ? i really wanna tell them about it
[11:12] <bruenig> Yodude, tell them no more orange and brown when you do
[11:12] <MiLK^> any ideas ? :/
[11:12] <Yodude> bruenig: lol no it'
[11:12] <jrib> Yodude: try #ubuntu-artwork (or see if they have a list on lists.ubuntu.com)
[11:12] <Yodude> s an orange the, but it REALLY fits with the ubuntu style
[11:12] <Yodude> i mean it first so PERFECTLY in the ubuntu desktop ( emerald theme )
[11:13] <WaxyFresh> kitche: it didint work
[11:13] <ubuntuEdgy> any one know how to edit the menu icon (change it )
[11:13] <MiLK^> its stopping me from being able to even install ubuntu :(
[11:14] <frodo> hi
[11:14] <ubuntuEdgy> i forgot the command
[11:14] <foxjazz> why does xchat lock up?
[11:15] <WaxyFresh> whats the normal windows filesystem?
[11:15] <MiLK^> so no one has any ideas?
[11:15] <Yodude> WaxyFresh: microsoft windows you mean ? it is by default NTFS
[11:15] <d4rkmonkey> Hey, I finally got my HP Compaq 6710b working with Ubuntu, but when I enabled desktop effects. it crashed. And it crashes every time I restart. How do I disable desktop effects from the command line?
[11:15] <Nutubuntu> WaxyFresh,  ntfs (for NT and newer) or vfat (aka "fat32" - for win98 and older)
[11:16] <Jamesinator> Is there any way to increase 3D-application performance on Ubuntu? Even with the terrible specs of my PC, complex 3D applications ran smoothly on Windows but the simplest ones bring Ubuntu to a crawl.
[11:16] <topo> pease vote on cow army http://bigstarfestival.pl/main.php?id=6&sub=1
[11:16] <d4rkmonkey> Hey, I finally got my HP Compaq 6710b working with Ubuntu, but when I enabled desktop effects. it crashed. And it crashes every time I restart. How do I disable desktop effects from the command line?
[11:16] <Ademan> is there an alternative to samba? or at least a way to make samba verify file transfers?
[11:17] <vicox> d4rkmonkey: compiz --replace ... i think
[11:17] <d4rkmonkey> replace?
[11:17] <kitche> WaxyFresh: what's your device for it
[11:17] <d4rkmonkey> "couldn't open display"
[11:18] <d4rkmonkey> I need to do it from recovery mode :(
[11:18] <WaxyFresh> kitche: usb hard drive im trying to mount on 5.10
[11:18] <kitche> WaxyFresh: usually usb devices are formatted to fat32 but linux calls it vfat
[11:18] <Yodude> heyy btw i heard Compiz Fusion is gonna be setup as default on gutsy , is that true ?
[11:18] <vicox> --replace means replace the current window manager
[11:18] <Russian> hello everyone
[11:18] <vicox> Yodude: ya
[11:18] <Russian> Where can I find the xorg.conf file?
[11:18] <kitche> WaxyFresh: that still doesn't tell me what the device is I want the /dev/sdX
[11:18] <WaxyFresh> kitche: i cant figure out how to mount it
[11:18] <WaxyFresh> on sec
[11:18] <Jamesinator> Russian: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:19] <kitche> WaxyFresh: dmesg should tell you
[11:19] <Yodude> vicox: Wow ! i heard it's even 10x better than beryl
[11:19] <Russian> Jamesinator, Where do I type that?
[11:19] <Jamesinator> Russian, open a terminal and type: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:19] <d4rkmonkey> Hey, I finally got my HP Compaq 6710b working with Ubuntu, but when I enabled desktop effects. it crashed. And it crashes every time I restart. How do I disable desktop effects from the command line?
[11:19] <Yodude> vicox: have they decided on it's default theme ?
[11:19] <Jamesinator> You can get a terminal by going to Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[11:20] <Jamesinator> If you're trying to edit in command-line, use: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:37] <Russian> Thank you
[11:37] <Jamesinator> No problem.
[11:37] <cupps> How come Wine closes everytime it attempts to download Gecko?
[11:37] <foxjazz> so why does xchat crash?
[11:37] <Russian> But how can I open the location, where the files is?
[11:37] <vicox> Yodude: dunno
[11:37] <WaxyFresh> kitche: it dosent show it
[11:37] <kitche> cupps: are you sure wine closes? sicne wine just sits in the background really
[11:37] <vicox> Yodude: but its activated by default in tribe 2
[11:37] <magnetron> cupps: does it close every time it downloads gecko?
[11:37] <WaxyFresh> kitche: a whole bucnh of azx_get_response timeout
[11:37] <Russian> Jamesinator: How do I open the location, wehre the files is?
[11:37] <d4rkmonkey> How do I disable Desktop Effects from recovery mode?
[11:37] <kitche> WaxyFresh: then that drive is most likely messed up
[11:37] <cupps> magnetron: Yeah... I can't get it to download/install Gecko.
[11:37] <WaxyFresh> kitche: nah its fine,it works fine on my fiesty computer
[11:37] <cupps> kitche It takes me back to the comand line prompt, and when I open SopCast again, it retries to download Gecko.
[11:37] <kitche> WaxyFresh: or the usb ports are :)
[11:37] <Yodude> vicox: good good ! lol that app alone can switch a billion, so i guess the nvidia non-free driver will be included ... or will it bi the nouveau driver ?
[11:37] <kitche> cupps: then it probably has to deal with Gecko try turning debugging on for wine
[11:37] <WaxyFresh> kitche: does this help?: /proc/bus/usb type usbfs
[11:37] <WaxyFresh> form mount
[11:37] <BFrank> is there any info on the ubuntu website about recompiling the kernel?
[11:37] <cupps> kitche It there a way to install gecko in wine then?
[11:37] <d4rkmonkey> Hey, I finally got my HP Compaq 6710b working with Ubuntu, but when I enabled desktop effects. it crashed. And it crashes every time I restart. How do I disable desktop effects from the command line?
[11:37] <kitche> WaxyFresh: no
[11:37] <Russian> why do I get this, when I try to safe the xorg file? "ou do not have the permissions necessary to save the file."
[11:37] <lordlucan> im a linux newbie.....is there any way I can write to my HD while running ubuntu as a live cd?
[11:37] <Nutubuntu> Russian,  you need to use sudo or gksudo
[11:37] <Russian> And where do I need to use that Nutubuntu?
[11:37] <tom-ubuntu> how is the color "Desktop" image applied to the desktop folder?
[11:37] <Nutubuntu> Russian,  it sounds like you are editing xorg.conf, is that what you are trying to do?
[11:37] <Bebota> holasssssss:)
[11:37] <Bebota> :)
[11:37] <Bebota> :)
[11:37] <erUSUL> !es | Bebota
[11:37] <ubotu> Bebota: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:37] <DaveTarmac> hey folks. I've fixed the CHMOD on sudoers, and added my user to the list of roots, but I still can't write to my drives. Is there a reason why?
[11:37] <MajorPayne> I just installed sshfs.  I created a directory under /mount and chowned it to my users user account.  I added my users account to the group fuse but when I try to mount using sshfs I get the following error: "fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied".
[11:37] <Russian> Nutubuntu, how do I save that?
[11:37] <cupps> How do I install Gecko for wine?
[11:37] <mrigns>
[11:37] <Nutubuntu> Russian, to copy xorg.conf to make a backup of it before editing it, 'sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup' - it will ask you for a password; give it your user password. To editi xorg.conf in gedit (for instance), 'gksudo gedit xorg.conf' . (All this assumes your current directory is /etc/X11.)
[11:37] <Russian> oke thank you
[11:37] <Russian> Nutubuntu Thank you
[11:37] <Nutubuntu> You're welcome Russian
[11:37] <maynards-girl> what file do i change the change the home network/group name? I know by default it's somethign like MSHOME, but where/how do i change it?
[11:37] <CommonAlgorithms> anyone ever heard of arudius...the linux distro?
[11:37] <johndoc> anybody use the linksys usb wifi adapter?
[11:37] <lordlucan> i couldnt connect to my wireless internet connection while running ubuntu as a live cd
[11:37] <cvzero> i just bought a samsung dvd burner, can anyone help me with installing it? is all i need to do edit the fstab?
[11:37] <eboyjr> Does anyone how to set preferences for a screensaver, for example, "GLText"?
[11:37] <johndoc> lordlucan: you talking to me?
[11:37] <lordlucan> anyone!
[11:37] <lordlucan> lol
[11:37] <ceezee> hello, I have formatted my external harddrive to EXT3, I have problems mounting it.COuld anyone help?
[11:37] <Russian> !resolution
[11:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:37] <ehc> has anyone managed to get a Logitech G5 Laser mouse working with ubuntu? (All the buttons working?)
[11:37] <ceezee> !mounting ext3
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mounting ext3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <Russian> Is there a keyboard shortcut for Terminal?
[11:37] <cvzero> !drive install
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drive install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <eboyjr> lordlucan: I had the same problem. I just waited for a while, eventually it connected.. but usually, someone will help you in 0 - 5 mins.
[11:37] <Russian> !shortcut
[11:37] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[11:37] <cvzero> !ime
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <CommonAlgorithms> Russian: russian huh?
[11:37] <CommonAlgorithms> Russian: I'm Ukrainian.
[11:37] <b0ha> is there any alternative to tilda
[11:37] <b0ha> i like to have fancy transparent terminal :)
[11:37] <eck> gnome-terminal?
[11:37] <XiXaQ> is there any problems associated with upgrade from dapper to feisty?
[11:37] <Fantastic_Bob> i agree
[11:37] <cvzero> there are 2 tilda clones, but i cant remember their names
[11:37] <ceil420> how do i burn a data CD from cli? :x
[11:37] <rockets> yakuake
[11:37] <maynards-girl> what file do i change the change the home network/group name? I know by default it's somethign like MSHOME, but where/how do i change it?
[11:37] <eck> ceil420: use cdrecord (or whatever they are calling it hese days)
[11:37] <specialmoose> anyway to lower the power management setting to turn monitor off from 11 minutes to say 2 minutes? 11 minutes is the lowest it will go right now
[11:37] <Nutubuntu> XiXaQ,  I don't believe you can go directly from Dapper to Feisty
[11:37] <Russian> !atioconfig
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atioconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <ceezee> are there any other support chans I can go to?
[11:37] <Aleksej> opensource -  !!!
[11:37] <Russian> !aticonfig
[11:37] <Aleksej> opensource -  !!!
[11:37] <eboyjr> Does anyone how to set preferences for a screensaver, for example, "GLText"?
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aticonfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <eck> ceil420: you can make an iso fs with mkisofs and then burn the image
[11:37] <Fantastic_Bob> !hi
[11:37] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:37] <vimalg2> !iptables
[11:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:37] <Fantastic_Bob> !gnome
[11:37] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[11:37] <ceil420> eck, how would i use that to burn, say, ~/images and ~/documents onto a CD?
[11:37] <ceezee> !ext3
[11:37] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[11:37] <eck> ceil420: use mkisofs
[11:37] <ceil420> thanks
[11:37] <eboyjr> Does anyone how to set preferences for a screensaver, for example, on "GLText", making it say, "Whatever"?
[11:37] <rockets> eboyjr: Doesn't exist in ubuntu. But kubuntu has the advanced settings
[11:37] <zzuh> !apache
[11:37] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:38] <eboyjr> rockets: thats too bad... thanks anyway
[11:38] <ceezee> does anyone know how to mount an external disk?I've tried the usual, made a dir and tried getting it in there, but something is wrong.
[11:38] <rockets> eboyjr: yeah, sorry. theres a bug filed about it on launchpad but they rejected it. for some reason the devs think settings are unecessary
[11:38] <eck> ceezee: what do you mean "tried getting it in there"
[11:38] <ceezee> eck: by mounting it in that dir
[11:39] <eck> and what was the result of the mount command?
[11:39] <ceezee> eck: I think it is mounted, but I can't get it to show when I search for it.
[11:39] <eck> ceezee: you can check by just running mount
[11:39] <eck> with no parameters
[11:40] <ceezee> eck: thanks, i'll try that.
[11:40] <ceezee> eck:yes, it's there.But I can't access it?
[11:41] <eck> ceezee: what do you mean?
[11:41] <Nutubuntu> ceezee,  I think if you pastebin the output of 'mount' it might help
[11:41] <ceezee> eck:meaning it's nowhere on the desktop and doesn't show when I do a file system usage check.
[11:41] <sebas_> can I copy a file from a remote ssh host to my computer?
[11:41] <w116tjb> Oh ohs... A fgrlx driver update?
[11:41] <ceezee> Nutubuntu: ok
[11:41] <w116tjb> Anything good?
[11:41] <erUSUL> sebas_: with scp
[11:41] <kitche> sebas_: yes with scp
[11:42] <foxjazz> anyone writing games for linux?
[11:42] <rockets> foxjazz: http://gaming.gwos.org/news.php
[11:43] <sebas_> thank you
[11:43] <Oni-Dracula> hi folks, me again... got a question about mouse movement constraints... it seems that in games such as Warcraft3 or UT2k4 (run natively) the screen border in which the mouse can move...is a bit off
[11:43] <ceezee> Nutubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28150/
[11:44] <andrewkk> I just installed ubuntu server on an old 400MHz system. The installer ran fine, and even the desktop live CD booted without any problems. The server installation just finished, but when I try to boot from the hard drive, grub loads successfully, but ubuntu does nothing more than show the message "Starting up..." for a second or to and then the system reboots in an endless cycle. What could cause this? ACPI problems?
[11:44] <eck> andrewkk: yeah, i would start by disabling acpi in the grub menu
[11:44] <b0ha> anyone tryed upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10?
[11:45] <eck> andrewkk: and boot up in the debugging mode
[11:45] <b0ha> are there any risks
[11:45] <ntemis> hello
[11:45] <andrewkk> eck: i tried boot paramater "noacpi" and nothing changed.
[11:45] <ntemis> i have some problem
[11:45] <ntemis> in feisty 7
[11:45] <andrewkk> eck: how do i get to debugging mode?
[11:45] <eck> boot without the options that suppress the kernel mesages
[11:45] <w116tjb> b0ha: It's not that big of a risk, but you'll want to backup your files.
[11:45] <eck> it's one of the grub entries
[11:45] <eck> i think the second one, i believe it's called rescue mode
[11:46] <andrewkk> eck: the same thing happens with rescue mode too.
[11:46] <eck> you should be looking for the last thing that is happening before the system restarts
[11:46] <Nutubuntu> ceezee, what happens when you open /media in nautilus, for example, or in a terminal enter 'cd /media' and then 'ls' ?
[11:47] <andrewkk> eck: is there a way to make it log what it's doing, or at least print out more information than "Starting up..."?
[11:47] <heathcliffs19> hey if I am buying a dell, assuming the costs are the same, doesn't it make more sense to buy a computer with windows on it and then install ubuntu myself since ubuntu is free?, then I will have a backup copy of windows if things don't work out
[11:47] <eck> andrewkk: yeah, that's the point of running it in rescue mode
[11:47] <BFrank> is there any info on the ubuntu website about recompiling the kernel?


[02:05] <Wild_Man> Hello guiverc you around?
[02:05] <guiverc> Yep
[02:06] <Wild_Man> guiverc, unless I am missing it I do not see the website/company included in the wiki anymore, so maybe it has already been corrected or I am just tired
[02:07] <guiverc> or I'm the tired one .. looking
[02:07] <Wild_Man> It still needs corrected in the gdoc from what I see
[02:08] <guiverc> example in 'good' : "John Smith of News Site proclaims"
[02:09] <Wild_Man> Okay, I will remove it
[02:09]  * krytarik takes the red pill...
[02:10] <Bashing-om> krytarik: One red pill may not be enough this week :P
[02:11] <Wild_Man> guiverc, it should read "John Smith of proclaims" right?
[02:11] <Wild_Man> wait
[02:11]  * krytarik orders more red pills..
[02:11] <Wild_Man>  guiverc, it should read "John Smith proclaims" right?
[02:11] <guiverc> John Smith proclaims -- to me anyway
[02:11] <guiverc> :)
[02:11] <Wild_Man> I did a copy and paste fail
[02:12] <Wild_Man> Do we hear a second?
[02:14] <krytarik> John Smith... you have got to be kidding me.. :P
[02:16] <Wild_Man> I will leave it as is on the wiki, that is why I was asking
[02:16] <guiverc> as for gdoc - i just commented & ignored them after that.. - I didn't finish my read thru of gdoc I think anyway
[02:16] <Wild_Man> okay
[02:17] <guiverc> I'd suggest changing wiki (or I could if you'd like) - it's what new people, or people look for how to (as we'd like) which is bad if we later drop to the current format.. it should be correct
[02:18] <Wild_Man> Not sure krytarik wants it changed, or he is just commenting on the chosen name, not sure
[02:19] <Wild_Man> If it needs changed I am happy to do it
[02:19] <Wild_Man> To me it does look better but I am not a writer
[02:23] <guiverc> I think it's the name - he wishes it was "Joe Blow"  :)   but I'm no writer either, I usually spew out what PaulW or pleia trained into me long ago  (or what I [incorrectly?] remember of it anyway)
[02:25] <Wild_Man> I think you are right as well
[02:25] <Wild_Man> We could come up with a new fun name
[02:27] <Wild_Man> guiverc, there are a lot of summaries that way
[02:33] <krytarik> guiverc: Yes, nice alternative.. :D
[02:35] <Wild_Man> I changed it in the wiki but did not update the name for now
[02:50] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Do you think my summaries are toooo short ? Just a thought on my part :P
[03:02] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, Just my opinion but I say no, they are just supposed to be to lines long
[03:03] <Wild_Man> opps numbers locked turned of again
[03:03] <Wild_Man> 1 to 4 lines
[03:03] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: :)
[03:29] <guiverc> sorry was away; I suspect readers would prefer shorter to longer   (as long as needed detail is there; but let writer or person doing the work decide [ideally]
[03:45] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I keep in mind your advise in that the desired result is to prompt the reader to open the link :)
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[19:27] <Bashing-om> UWN561 up for critique and and scrutiny and proof reading. Is "In This Issue" parsable ?
[20:18] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I have to run out for a little while I will look it over when I get back, Are you having an issue parsing "In this Issue"? I know it is usually parsable
[20:19] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: No, I have no issie with "in this issue" but I do have reservations that the Fridge will handle it .
[20:20] <Wild_Man> It worked last week
[20:20] <Wild_Man> I know the fridge script was throwing out an error but it did not last week either
[20:21] <Wild_Man> BBL
[22:38] <Wild_Man> krytarik, you around?
[22:39] <krytarik> Yep.
[22:40] <Wild_Man> If I change this title to a descriptive title on the forum, do I need to change it on the wiki? I am to tired to think this thread logically, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2410068
[22:40] <Wild_Man> I do not like the title
[22:41] <krytarik> Yep, of course then you'll have to - once it got copied there..
[22:41] <krytarik> ..Heh. :P
[22:42] <Wild_Man> Thought so, I just read the link right after I change the title? If I change it on the forum it only changes the title in the first post
[22:43] <Wild_Man> I am doing about 4 things at once, so my attention is divided, not good for me
[22:44] <krytarik> Just update the link description in the UWN issue to the new thread title on the forums then, yes.
[23:03] <Wild_Man> I think it is good now
[23:07] <krytarik> Wild_Man: " *  Remote Server Accessibility Issue - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2410068" - yeah, only a space too many after the asterisk there.
[23:08] <Wild_Man> Okay, I removed one on the other end but missed that one, fixing now
[23:09] <krytarik> Bashing-om: The images needs added there yet btw.
[23:09] <Wild_Man> I wonder why it adds the extra spaces when doing a copy and paste?
[23:10] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Watching and waiting :)
[23:10] <krytarik> Wild_Man: Can happen by copying from websites sometimes.
[23:10] <Wild_Man> krytarik, do you have a script that parses the whole gdoc to be put on the wiki or does that always have to be done one section at a time?
[23:11] <krytarik> No, that's a manual copy job.
[23:12] <Wild_Man> Okay, that is what I thought but was not sure if you automated it
[23:13] <krytarik> There is nothing to be gained by any such really.
[23:21] <Wild_Man> The numbers for the quick links on the right side of the wiki some of them are not lined up
[23:22] <Wild_Man> From 10 down
[23:23] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: looking
[23:23] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Oh, and I just see, the usual problem with a missing Planet section wrt the issue summary again. :P
[23:26] <Bashing-om> krytarik: yeah - "planet" - but I am not sure of how to fix :(
[23:26] <krytarik> Wild_Man: I don't see what you mean there.
[23:27] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Yeah, like you didn't fix it numerous times before already.. :P  (And I didn't explain it to you before either.)
[23:27] <Bashing-om> krytarik: I am aware that missing the "planet" section causes issues. But I do not know what it takes to recify that situation or why .
[23:31] <krytarik> Could fix it manually by just dropping every subtopic off the summary starting from where the Planet section would be.
[23:34] <Bashing-om> krytarik: K; will do .. ( I did think that ,,, but sure liked it with the subtopics listed ) - yuk .
[23:34] <krytarik> And why the hell are you guys apparently Google-translating the Ubuntu Portugal podcast stuff now?
[23:37] <Bashing-om> krytarik: will change the Portugal podcast back also .
[23:38] <krytarik> Seems like you've doing this for quite some issues now.
[23:52] <Bashing-om> Changes made to issues and Portugal podcast.
[23:57] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Ok, now just need to revert the title translation too.
[23:58] <Bashing-om> krytarik: K -
[23:58] <Wild_Man> This is what I see when I look on the right side of the wiki 10 down the first number is outside side of the shaded area https://imgur.com/a/S5q5Kns
[23:58] <krytarik> I seriously wonder who's grande idea this was, while I wasn't looking for a few issues.
[23:59] <Wild_Man> Sorry I was busy my wife started trying to cook a meal using her walker and I had to get in the kitchen and make her set down and take over