[03:12] <blkcamarozr28>  Is there away to do a media check for the 64bit iso's on a 32bit system?
[03:13] <Serfalyx> damian_: Free usually means you can take the code and do what you want with it.  OpenSource usually means you can use/change the code with restrictions
[03:13] <HeXiOn> I'll try the dpkg-reconfigure and dpkg -r to reinstall or remove the power management
[03:13] <kaatil> open source = good program? hmm
[03:13] <Warbo> I mean the aims of the movements
[03:13] <kaatil> yeah serf
[03:13] <kaatil> heh warbo. ok
[03:13] <WayCool> scrappy: is there an "official" recomendation for hardware to use with Ubuntu 6.06?
[03:13] <HeXiOn> bye :)
[03:13] <jordanau> Serfalyx, thanks for the advice, my printer now works
[03:13] <drbreen> waycool: there are compatibility lists
[03:13] <Serfalyx> jordanau: Excellent!
[03:14] <scrappy_> WayCool: im not sure.  i have ran ubuntu on a 750 mhz pentium and 128 ram. its usable but gnome isnt very snappy without at least 256mb ram imo
[03:14] <banshee412> anyone know what package contains the 'strings' command?
[03:15] <WayCool> scrappy: not very snapy but still reasonably usable?
[03:15] <Serfalyx> banshee412: binutils
[03:15] <Warbo> banshee412: Try installing and running apt-file
[03:15] <scrappy_> WayCool: on the flip side ive ran ubuntu without gnome and used fluxbox instead on a p133 with 16mb ram
[03:15] <Warbo> !info apt-file
[03:15] <ubotu> apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.7ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 92 kB
[03:15] <mwe> banshee412: binutils
[03:15] <scrappy_> WayCool: yes but id go with xubuntu first if you dont like it you can just do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and youll have a normall ubuntu install
[03:16] <banshee412> thanks guys
[03:17] <WayCool> scrappy: do you feel that a p3 (~1Ghz) and 256Mb is enough to get good performance out of Ubuntu 6.06?
[03:17] <sb> good performance for what?
[03:17] <Warbo> Quake4 ;)
[03:18] <blkcamarozr28> Waycool: try check out Xubuntu :) It runs XFCE, its a very light weight windows manager :)
[03:18] <WayCool> sb: good performance for general use
[03:18] <Serfalyx> WayCool: You're definitely better off with XFCE or one of the other lightweight window managers.  Gnome and KDE are pigs and will just bog that box down
[03:18] <Warbo> WayCool: Still generic. Do you regularly word process, or video edit?
[03:19] <scrappy_> WayCool: it would be fine. you might install xubuntu-desktop too and just choose between the two at login by clicking on the sessions button see which you like. on the other hand there are less bloated distros out there..
[03:20] <WayCool> Warbo: some word processing, internet browsing, AND usning Sun's Java environment ***
[03:20] <Tsukino> any idea why the installation of Ubuntu would cause more heat than the Live CD?
[03:21] <AAA> Tsukino  is it a laptop?  Is the fan running?
[03:21] <WayCool> So guys, do you feel that the main thing that slows a system down is the desktop environment? And if so are Gnome and KDE really that nice to put up with the drop in performance?
[03:22] <AAA> WayCool  there is 100 ways to answer that question.  For most newer computers, yes they are worth it
[03:22] <[soL] cssArticuno> is there a way to keep terminals open after they are used for launcher?
[03:22] <Serfalyx> WayCool: IMHO, yes, the window managers are mostly what's going to cause your average modern distro to be slow.  No, IMHO it's not worth it.  I hate waiting for machiens
[03:22] <sb> waycool it slows things down like dragging windows, and consumes much ram, but it doesn't slow down non-gui things
[03:23] <Serfalyx> WayCool: ( When using X that is )
[03:23] <sb> it's relatively easy to get a nice lean gui going if you care
[03:23] <BenrightB4> hey, i am on here all the time, sorry to have so many questions... but i am trying to figure out how to get php to work on my server, but i cant find all the phpmod and things to install for it
[03:23] <AAA> it really just depends what you want to do with the box
[03:23] <Tsukino> AAA: it is a laptop, and the fan doesn't run on either one. For some reason the laptop is cooler if I run Ubuntu's Live CD than if I run Ubuntu on my hard drive
[03:23] <sb> If people want to spend extra CPU+ram on transparent, glowing windows, that jiggle when they move more power to them
[03:24] <AAA> Tsukino  maybe the HDD is right under your leg and you feel it when it is working
[03:24] <sb> it creates a market where I can get fast cpu/graphics cheap, and get blazing performance when I don't need a heavy gui
[03:24] <sb> so all you gamers out there
[03:24] <Tsukino> the processor runs hotter as well
[03:24] <Tsukino> actually the hard drive area doesn't get hotter
[03:24] <sb> buy giant LCDs, $600 video cards, and 4-8 core systems with 2 expensive SLI cards
[03:25] <odla> anyone know if you can monitor cpu frequency scaling for a 2.3 GHz celeron?
[03:25] <sb> 200 FPS will make you a better gamer (even if you can only see 60)
[03:25] <Awsoonn> I'm back :(
[03:25] <AAA> Tsukino  odd,
[03:25] <sb> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:25] <gil> i am having problems setting up WPA-PSK on a DI-524
[03:25] <gil> does anyone have experience with this
[03:25] <[soL] cssArticuno> fps_max 72
[03:25] <WayCool> Ok, so if I don't care about flashy pictures but want a lean but fully functional machine, then what windows manager would you recomend and is Ubuntu my best choice?
[03:25] <Tsukino> yeah, it's really odd.. I've heard others say the same about their laptops in the Ubuntu forums
[03:25] <orbin> odla: one way to find out...
[03:25] <sb> waycool there's one available at the login screen
[03:25] <Tsukino> for some reason the Live CD runs much cooler
[03:25] <BenrightB4> anybody here using .php pages on their ubuntu server?
[03:25] <sb> much leaner
[03:25] <sb> er, xfce4 I think
[03:26] <greddy> anyone ever setup an ss5 server, or any other socks5 server on ubuntu
[03:26] <sb> it comes with a particularly lean xfce4-term or similar
[03:26] <Awsoonn> When I am runnign the instalation CD the screen blinks, as in it gos black for a few seconds and then returns. How do i fix it?
[03:26] <odla> orbin: how?
[03:26] <deitarion> A friend of mine accidentally wiped his /etc/apt/sources.list and I'm using Gentoo. Could someone please send me a replacement copy for him?
[03:26] <Serfalyx> Tsukino: I guess it's possible that the CPU is running hotter because it's not spending half its life waiting for data to crawl off that CD
[03:26] <secleinteer> when manually partitioning with a / partition and a /home partition, where should the swap partition go?
[03:26] <gil> i neef help wih DI-524
[03:26] <orbin> odla: add the freq applet to your panel
[03:27] <secleinteer> the beginning or the end?
[03:27] <odla> orbin: oh well that doesn't work :_
[03:27] <WayCool> sb: so xfce4 is you preference then?
[03:27] <sb> well ubuntu already has it, so yeah
[03:27] <scrappy_> secleinteer: it used to be swap firs on the hd but you wont really notice a diff where you put it
[03:27] <sb> there are tons of lean window managers, but it's small, light, fast, and already installed (or at least apt-get able)
[03:28] <secleinteer> ok
[03:28] <secleinteer> thx
[03:28] <sb> it doesn't have a 4014 emulator built into each terminal ;-)
[03:28] <Serfalyx> sbi: Heh!
[03:28] <axolx> hey guys - i just installed ubuntu 6.06 base and i dont have a /etc/resolv.conf file. do i need to install a specific package? or how do i set up name resolution?
[03:28] <cafuego> xfce4 is not a lean window manager; it's a lean desktop environment
[03:29] <tandy> hey oes anyone know if there is some kind of byte limit u can transfer over scp
[03:29] <tandy> or if there i setting to change it
[03:29] <cafuego> axolx: Edit it with a text editor (create it)
[03:29] <[soL] cssArticuno> when i check the "run in terminal" option after creating a launcher, why does the terminal window close?
[03:29] <Tsukino> it's possible, but my laptop runs 3 degrees cooler idling on the Live CD, other people have had their laptops running over 10 degrees cooler
[03:29] <Serfalyx> tandy: Shouldn't be
[03:29] <secleinteer> does any1 know how much space a normal install will take on my hd?
[03:29] <tandy> I get a connection error every so often when im transferring lot of files
[03:29] <cafuego> secleinteer: Around 2GB
[03:29] <tandy> trying to figure out wut it is
[03:29] <secleinteer> ok
[03:29] <secleinteer> th
[03:29] <secleinteer> thx*
[03:29] <Serfalyx> Tsukino: Odd.  I don't have any better ideas
[03:30] <Awsoonn> i'm trying to install Ubuntu and Xserver will not load and the screen blinks, any help? I cant even work wiht the commandline becasue of the annoying blinking.
[03:30] <scrappy_> [soL] cssArticuno: what are you running?
[03:30] <blind> Okay, I have a second monitor hooked up through a separate video card, and only one is working. How do I hook up the second one?
[03:30] <[soL] cssArticuno> ubuntu 6.06
[03:30] <tandy> I was connected to windows machine transferrnfiles and every now and then it eorrors saying host isnt responding
[03:30] <orbin> odla: i dunno if this is the exact way of checking, but what does this say:  grep throttling /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info
[03:30] <cyphase> what's a good bandwidth shaping app?
[03:31] <axolx> cafuego: i edited it, but still dont get name resolution. do i need to install a package to get name resolution?
[03:31] <cyphase> so that, for example, internet radio can have a higher priority then bittorrent
[03:31] <[soL] cssArticuno> scrappy_ ubuntu 6.06
[03:31] <BrokenPipe> Is it completely hopeless to get flash sound to play nice with ALSA, without closing all over sound producing programs?
[03:32] <scrappy_> [soL] cssArticuno: i mean what are you launching?
[03:32] <potato_> How can I setup software raid ?
[03:32] <[soL] cssArticuno> steam via wine
[03:32] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: no
[03:32] <cafuego> axolx: Nono, you need to add the dns server into in resolv.conf. "nameserver ip.of.name.server"
[03:32] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: 1 second, and i'll give you a link
[03:32] <WayCool> sb: do you feel that a p3 (~1Ghz) and 256Mb is enough to get good performance out of Ubuntu 6.06? again I must be able to run Java quickly (Sun's env)
[03:32] <axolx> cafuego: ah. i think i know what the problem may be. i need to add a default route to the routing table
[03:33] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[03:33] <Serfalyx> potato_: Have a look at mdadm
[03:33] <cafuego> WayCool: You'll kinda want double the ram.
[03:33] <axolx> cafuego: yup. that was it.
[03:33] <Shrimp> hello
[03:33] <Shrimp> I have a question
[03:33] <sb> 256MB is tight, okay for java as long as your running nothing else
[03:33] <slid3r> what media player can view wmv's right outta the box?
[03:33] <kaatil> heh
[03:33] <sb> but painful for tons of firefox tabs, openoffice, and eclipse
[03:33] <kaatil> i currently have 512 ram i think.. good enough i think
[03:33] <kaatil> i gonna bumb it up later
[03:33] <kaatil> bump rather
[03:33] <Awsoonn> slid3r: VLC
[03:33] <WayCool> sb: so 512?
[03:34] <scrappy_> [soL] cssArticuno: i think that would be peculiar to whatever you launch
[03:34] <Shrimp> I have a PC with 4GB of ram I would like to test a ubuntu live CD on it (not installing it) would it mess up my current PCs configuration?
[03:34] <ChakRa> nop
[03:34] <damian_> Shrimp: holy crap
[03:34] <damian_> Shrimp: 4 gb!
[03:34] <Ronz> Shrimp, can i touch you?
[03:34] <[soL] cssArticuno> scrappy_: in the last distro i had, there was a "keep terminal window open" option
[03:34] <kaatil> heh ronz
[03:34] <axolx> what are the default apt sources for drapper? i installed from CD and now have internet connection
[03:35] <kaatil> i wish i has 4gb of ram.. i think it work for x64?
[03:35] <Serfalyx> Shrimp: Just running the live CD will leave your current system untouched
[03:35] <kaatil> or it can work on x86 too?
[03:35] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: is it working?
[03:35] <kaatil> 4 gb of ram that is
[03:35] <damian_> Shrimp: if i marry you can i share your ram?
[03:35] <Ronz> ....can i still touch you, Shrimp ?   =)
[03:35] <scrappy_> [soL] cssArticuno: im not too familair with nautilus.  the last distro was running gnome?
[03:35] <skypa> any ideas on how to hide the firefox menu?
[03:35] <kaatil> how can you share the ram? pass it around then plug it in for week and give it back? heh
[03:35] <Awsoonn> kaatil: look at the manual for your motherboard, it will tellyou.
[03:35] <kaatil> go to menu editor and hide it. i think
[03:35] <magus_x> how can i set the amixer capture mux all to 100%?? please...
[03:35] <Ronz> ive got 2 gig in my laptop...=)
[03:35] <skypa> I like it slick, but I cant seem to find the option to hide the menu bar in firefox :/
[03:36] <kaatil> ah thanks awsoonn, you are teh awesome
[03:36] <Serfalyx> kaatil: Is that your idea of shared memory? :)
[03:36] <kaatil> heh serf. lol
[03:36] <[soL] cssArticuno> scrappy_: yup
[03:36] <Awsoonn> ok, I have a question now~
[03:36] <Shrimp> alright i'll boot the live CD if I have any problems i'll be back
[03:36] <magus_x> i have too
[03:37] <magus_x> how can i set the amixer capture mux all to 100%?? please...
[03:37] <blind> anyone? :P
[03:37] <BrokenPipe> cyphase: Still trying.
[03:37] <scrappy_> every employee in my office gets laptops with min 1.5 gigs and decent nvidia vid cards what do they do with them?  web browsing and email..
[03:37] <Awsoonn> I;m installing 6.06 and when I boot to teh install CD the screen begins to go black for a few seconds then turn on. no pattern to it.
[03:37] <Awsoonn> X will not start either, but I can't do anythign about that untill I get the screen to stop freaking out.
[03:37] <Ronz> scrappy_, thats a sin against every religion
[03:37] <inc|freaky> i installed ubuntu server edition on my server today ;
[03:37] <inc|freaky> D
[03:37] <blind> scrappy_: you can't browse the web with <1.5ghz machine
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Kubuntu ses my modem on ttyS5... Ubuntu sees it on ttyS36 seems odd...
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Same box
[03:38] <WayCool> cafuego: how much ram do you think I'll need on a p3 @ 1GHz to run Sun's runtime env quickly?
[03:38] <kaatil> ah seem my motherboard support up to 2 gb of ram. interesting
[03:38] <BrokenPipe> cyphase: No sound, and flash now freezes after a small amount of playback. =\
[03:38] <scrappy_> blind: 1.5 gig ram ;p
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> blind: since when?
[03:38] <blind> oh jesus
[03:38] <Ronz> WayCool, 4 gb
[03:38] <tvgm2> did the latest 686 kernel update break usb==>ps2 keyboards?
[03:38] <blind> I don't even have 1.5gb ram in my desktop
[03:38] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: did you restart firefox?
[03:38] <jbroome> WayCool: can you get TB's of ram? :)
[03:38] <kaatil> if your motherboard support it
[03:38] <WayCool> tb?
[03:38] <shiv>  I am unable to delete a link from desktop. plz help
[03:39] <BrokenPipe> cyphase: Yes.  And I even tried logging out and back in.
[03:39] <cafuego> WayCool: if you only run the command line (no X, Gnome or KDE) 256Mb should be okay, otherwise you want at least 512Mb.
[03:39] <blind> WayCool: terrabytes
[03:39] <kaatil> you know.. you can get gigabyte card to support 4gb of ram. lol
[03:39] <jbroome> WayCool: terrabytes. :)
[03:39] <Serfalyx> WayCool: You could have installed it and tried it by now :)
[03:39] <Ronz> jbroome, i think you can have supported 64 gb
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: Is it fro a mounted drive?
[03:39] <shiv> ya
[03:39] <baxter_kylie> Hi guys/gals. I need some help here, specifically keybindings and using multiple languages. Anyone know how to do this
[03:39] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: well, i don't know.. maybe you changed something..
[03:39] <kaatil> wtf, there a motherboard for that? ronz
[03:39] <cyphase> earlier i mean
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ONe sec, I'll walk you through it.
[03:39] <Ronz> kaatil, yes, its a server mobo
[03:39] <kaatil> ah server
[03:39] <Tonren> Hey guys, can anyone walk me through getting wireless installed with ndiswrapper?  I've been through the wiki install process 4 or 5 times, I got rid of the shitty broadcom drivers, but it's still not working.
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> To Remove Icons from Desktop after running Diskmounter Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[03:40] <Awsoonn> Can anyone help me or do I need to go elsewhere? and where can I go for help?
[03:40] <WayCool> Thank's guys :)
[03:40] <kaatil> if it's 64 gb of ram.. i guess that motherboard is expensive then?
[03:40] <Ronz> kaatil, http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=64gb+ram+motherboard&hl=en&lr=&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title
[03:40] <Serfalyx> Awsoonn: Have you tried the "safe mode" boot options on the CD?
[03:40] <blind> So yeah, I need some help setting up a dual monitor setup :]
[03:40] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: I unmounted it still can't delete the link
[03:40] <kaatil> thx ronz
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: Look up
[03:41] <kaatil> damn  $1,438.50  for that motherboard
[03:41] <WayCool> Ronz: why 4GB specificaly?
[03:41] <Awsoonn> serf: I have tried teh safe graphical mode, yes. other than that mode no
[03:42] <ScreaminIke> where is the apt cache?
[03:42] <Ronz> WayCool, cause you can be way cool like shrimp
[03:42] <Serfalyx> Awsoonn: I'd start disabling some of the automatic hardware detection - like maybe all of it and see if you can get anything at all to come up
[03:42] <WayCool> :) I don't want anyone touching me :)
[03:42] <Ronz> haha
[03:42] <Awsoonn> what is that flag?
[03:42] <Awsoonn> -noautodetect ?
[03:43] <WayCool> Thank's again guys, you are a blast ! :))
[03:43] <kaatil> to stop detect the hardware automatically
[03:43] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: What do I look up?
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Awsoonn: Grub Boot Options to try (F6)  ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[03:43] <kaatil> i think
[03:43] <Serfalyx> Awsoonn: Oy - not sure, I'd have to log to fire up the boot CD ;)  There should be a bunch of them in the F2-F4 menus. You're going to have to experiment
[03:43] <tvgm2> did the latest 686 kernel update break usb==>ps2 keyboards?
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Shiv To Remove Icons from Desktop  Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[03:43] <ScreaminIke> where is the apt cache?
[03:43] <skibobdi> awsonn: have you tried oem mode, im doing that now after having similar experience
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Awsoonn: Did you try that?
[03:44] <Serfalyx> ScreaminIke: /var/cache/apt
[03:44] <Awsoonn> I cant rty stuff right now without rebooting
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: Did you try that
[03:44] <Awsoonn> so I have to wirte stuff downand try batches of ideas
[03:44] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: wait
[03:44] <Serfalyx> Awsoonn: Heh - we're in the same boat.
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Awsoonn: Easier than it sounds...  Do you have pcmcia or USB2?  SATA raids?
[03:45] <Awsoonn> as soon as I get the blinkign to stopr and the screent o fit on the monitor I hope to launch IRC in a terminal. ^_^
[03:45] <Awsoonn> Jack: I do not
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Awsoonn: Checking
[03:46] <jordanau> i love ubuntu once more
[03:46] <orbin> woohoo
[03:46] <gpothier> Hi, I'm new to this channel, I have a question...
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[03:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:46] <Aphex_Twin> is it possible to launch applications from gnome without having to open a console (i.e. a "run" utility, as it is present in KDE and Windows) ?
[03:46] <Awsoonn> i should note that I never got XORG to work with Gentoo, but it did work fine with Breezy
[03:47] <gpothier> Where can I find the revision history (and diff) of a particular package??
[03:47] <orbin> Aphex_Twin: alt+f2
[03:47] <saltydog> hello all
[03:47] <gpothier> ubotu: thx!
[03:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about thx! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:47] <BurningClaws> ubotu: fuck!
[03:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about fuck! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:47] <bignose_> woo ! finally a linux that doesn't make me want to commit suicide.. you can use that quote.
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Bye Bye
[03:48] <jordanau> !language > BurningClaws
[03:48] <orbin> BurningClaws: keep it clean
[03:48] <gpothier> Hmmm... so ubotu is a bot... logical!
[03:48] <BurningClaws> ok
[03:49] <baxter_kylie> Does anyone know anything about custom key bindings for specific UTF-8 characters?
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: Did that fix the problem you were having
[03:49] <|thunder> i wish i did, id fix my num pad
[03:49] <baxter_kylie> Or alternately does anyone know anything about multiple-language input?
[03:49] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: no :(
[03:49] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: I just rebooted still no luck
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: what are you trying to remove?
[03:50] <|thunder> baxter_kylie, you can change your keyboard layout on the fly.
[03:50] <|thunder> system/prefs/kb
[03:50] <|thunder> i think
[03:50] <shiv> a link from my windows c drive application acrobat.exe
[03:50] <gpothier> baxter: in KDE there is a convenient icon in the system tray that lets you change input method...
[03:50] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: a link from my windows c drive application acrobat.exe
[03:51] <baxter_kylie> @thunder and gpothier: Well I'm not trying to change my keyboard layout --  I'm trying to add custom bindings so that apostrophe + 'a' = accented a and similar.
[03:51] <Serfalyx> I'm out.  G'night all
[03:51] <baxter_kylie> Unless this is the same thing?
[03:51] <gpothier> I'm using the spanish layout and that's exactly what apostroph+a does...
[03:51] <OtavioRibeiro> hi,  what is the best cvs gui client to gnome?
[03:52] <gpothier> But I read some interesting docs a few days ago,wait a minute...
[03:52] <baxter_kylie> gpothier! You may have just made my day.
[03:52] <Jaiwa> hi
[03:53] <baxter_kylie> I don't miss much from my M$ days except region and language settings.... those were a dream.
[03:53] <babo> how do I extract a power ISO file ?
[03:53] <Jaiwa> i'm a ubuntu newbie
[03:54] <gpothier> baxter: this may help you: http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu.html#T6
[03:54] <orbin> OtavioRibeiro: best is relative. try them all out
[03:54] <orbin> welcome Jaiwa
[03:54] <Jaiwa> thanks
[03:54] <Jaiwa> has anyone installed an FTP server?
[03:54] <gpothier> baxter: I don't miss windows regional settings... it's peretty good in kde
[03:55] <orbin> OtavioRibeiro: quick search shows gcvs might be nice
[03:55] <Jaiwa> using proftpd?
[03:55] <OtavioRibeiro> orbin: thanks.. i've downloaded gcvs and will try to use it!
[03:56] <orbin> yw OtavioRibeiro
[03:57] <prakash> hi
[03:57] <eonbleu> I am trying to get apache going on my laptop --- i installed apache2, php5, and mysql5 -- when i go to run a script locally via http, it asks me what I want to use to open a phtml file --- any ideas why?
[03:57] <prakash> i am new to ubuntu
[03:57] <preston> need a good terminal app to display my inittab in color...any takers???
[03:57] <eonbleu> i assumed phtml was a php driven file
[03:58] <|thunder> preston, what have you used previously ?
[03:58] <baxter_kylie> @gpothier: Thank you so much... I need to test this now.
[03:58] <wastrel> my palm pilot won't sync with dapper anymore
[03:59] <scrappy_> preston: you mean the inittab file itself? while editing it?
[03:59] <preston> | thunder: vi, elvis, joe
[03:59] <Tim``> i'm having a problem with sound recording: if i have sounds playing in the backgrond (say, notification sounds on Gaim), and i record sound using Sound Recorder or Audacity, those notification sounds appear on the audio track being recorded: even if the sound output volume on Volume Control is completely muted
[03:59] <Tim``> as if it's doing some kind of "audio-thru" in software - can anyone help?
[04:00] <preston> scrappy_; there are many reasons why I would want to edit my inittab file
[04:00] <scrappy_> preston: i use vim with syntax on
[04:01] <|thunder> Tim``, seems you might be getting the Master Audio, you want Linr-In
[04:01] <|thunder> *line-in
[04:01] <preston> scrappy_: how do I turn syntax highlighting on in vim?
[04:01] <wastrel> preston:  :syntax on
[04:01] <|thunder> vim too hard to use
[04:01] <regeya> 23231
[04:01] <scrappy_> preston: ':syntax on' or edit /etc/vim/vimrc and uncomment it
[04:01] <xxxx_justsomenic> has anyone gotton ubuntu to install into a system with sata drives? i cant even start the live cd
[04:01] <preston> scrappy_: thanks
[04:01] <Tim``> well, in Audacity, it says it's using /dev/dsp and i've tried recording from anything it can: mic, line, volume, CD, etc - all the same
[04:02] <regeya> Tim``: check your mixer levels
[04:02] <|thunder> Tim``, open the volume control.
[04:03] <Tim``> ok, opened
[04:03] <orbin> |thunder: well you've got plenty of choice ;)
[04:03] <|thunder> you can pick which devices are mixed into dsp
[04:03] <xxxx_justsomenic> wow this client is cheesy compared to mirc
[04:03] <preston> scrappy_: that's awesome...I just never really go into the various commands within vim to know how to accomplish this.  This was exactly what I was hoping to see!
[04:03] <|thunder> orbin, ive used nano for as long as I can remember
[04:03] <Tim``> i've tried muting all of them except for mic and it doens't solve it
[04:03] <regeya> Tim``: also, make sure you've .... meh.
[04:03] <Tim``> heh
[04:03] <preston> wastrel: thanks as well!
[04:03] <orbin> xxxx_justsomenic: gaim or xchat?
[04:03] <Tim``> it's been like this for a while, IIRC
[04:03] <xxxx_justsomenic> xchat
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> xxxx_justsomenic: Yes sata drives here, NOT raid... work fine
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> I prefer Konversation for irc
[04:04] <xxxx_justsomenic> i've tried the i386, amd64, alternate amd64 all bomb
[04:04] <regeya> Konversation is quite nice
[04:04] <orbin> |thunder: *nod* nothing wrong with that
[04:04] <regeya> ...captain sparrow
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> xxxx_justsomenic:  Grub Boot Options to try (F6)  ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[04:05] <xxxx_justsomenic> ill try that
[04:05] <|thunder> gotta bust
[04:05] <kevin1> I am trying to burn a DVD-Data Disc with k3b and I am receiving a error: Incorrectly encoded string (ffchen.jpg) encountered.   I there a way i can find/delete the file?  I have no idea what it is or where it is.
[04:06] <preston> scrappy_: to answer your question: to comment out some of the getty lines....don't use or need them
[04:06] <kevin1> I've done a search and I don't come back with anything... I am confused
[04:06] <Rookie-> www.google.com is your best friend *grins*
[04:07] <scrappy_> preston: you can never have too many mingettys man
[04:07] <scrappy_> or gettys i guess
[04:07] <preston> scrappy_: lol...but really, I have no need, plus I get some memory back
[04:08] <kevin1> anyone familar with this error and k3b?
[04:08] <Frankenstein_AFK> kevin1, try installing gstreamerplugins
[04:09] <blind> Can someone help me set up xinerama? :\
[04:09] <Frankenstein_AFK> kevin1, list of what you should need are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:09] <skypa> eww, xinerama
[04:09] <skypa> blind, what graphic card you got?
[04:10] <blind> Two graphics cards.
[04:10] <OtavioRibeiro> blind: what video board do you have?
[04:10] <Frankenstein_AFK> blind, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/start.html
[04:10] <blind> one's an intel onboard.. and one's a trident 3d blade.
[04:10] <orbin> kevin1: sounds like a bad filename to me ...see that squarebox thing?
[04:10] <kevin1> Frankenstein_AFK:  what does this have to do with K3b Burning a DVD?
[04:10] <orbin> kevin1: maybe just rename the file
[04:10] <Frankenstein_AFK> kevin1, a lot... all my problems were fixed after i installed those decoders
[04:11] <kevin1> orbin:  I don't know what the file is or where it is... I've done a search
[04:11] <Rookie-> mount the file and chech it out first, if you cant mount it and check it its most likeliy corrupt
[04:11] <orbin> kevin1: HDD > DVD or DVD > DVD?
[04:11] <kevin1> orbin:  HDD>DVD
[04:11] <orbin> kevin1: and you can't find *ffchen.jpg?
[04:12] <LordOfTheNoobs> blind: Hints : `lspci` to get pci info , /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the thing to edit.  The format is somewhat self evident, obviously you need root to edit it, so sudo your editor.
[04:12] <kevin1> orbin:  nothing
[04:12] <greddy> wow i'm thinking of reformating back to windows linux is pretty rediculous :P
[04:12] <xxxx_justsomenic> well at least now i get failed to set xfermode on all drives rather than a screen full of errors with those options
[04:12] <kevin1> orbin: thats why i am so confused!
[04:12] <blind> LordOfTheNoobs: thanks
[04:13] <greddy> everything seems to take 5 hours to configure and thats if i just dont give up :P
[04:13] <xxxx_justsomenic> ugh im at a # prompt with a blinking cursor. is this supposed to happen when u boot the cd?
[04:13] <Tim``> nah, don't give up greddy
[04:13] <xxxx_justsomenic> i know how u feel greddy
[04:13] <kevin1> orbin:  I have no idea what file it is or why its being added to my datacd project
[04:13] <Tim``> it gets slightly less painful as you go on :p
[04:13] <LordOfTheNoobs> blind: I figured out how to do it using mostly `man xorg.conf`, which I forgot to mention.  Good stuff.
[04:13] <orbin> kevin1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213967
[04:13] <Frankenstein_AFK> greddy, linux is not windows, and is not point and click... its not for everyone. linux users like it because its not point and click
[04:13] <Tim``> heh
[04:14] <Tim``> perhaps there's a hint of masochism there too :p
[04:14] <greddy> in windows i just dl some freeware program and punch in a few numbers and things just work :/
[04:14] <Tim``> heh
[04:14] <orbin> kevin1: unless that last guy is you
[04:14] <xxxx_justsomenic> but cant it jsut do what is supposed to just a little bit of the time
[04:14] <Tim``> yes
[04:14] <Rookie-> most of the questions here is not about linux at all, it is about Gnome or Kde ....
[04:14] <tamale> does someone have some time to help me troubleshoot an apache problem?  They'd have to browse my website to see the problem.. it's not an http error.
[04:14] <greddy> and now i'm trying to set something up that it seems like no one else has done
[04:14] <Tim``> problem is, you just have to tell it what to do :p
[04:14] <Tim``> heh, i know the feeling greddy
[04:14] <greddy> so i can't even ask for advice
[04:14] <tamale> in firefox the problem is "The conection was reset"
[04:14] <orbin> kevin1: the ffchen.jpg file is there somewhere
[04:14] <Frankenstein_AFK> greddy, what are you trying to set up
[04:15] <greddy> i need a socks5 sever
[04:15] <greddy> basically this is what i'm doing atm
[04:15] <blind> I'm gonna try this, be back later.
[04:15] <kevin1> orbin: nope... but i saw that eariler... didn't help much of anything
[04:15] <greddy> i'm at school using sockscap to get through my school network
[04:15] <greddy> at home i have a box with ubuntu on it
[04:15] <skibobdi> am i right in thinking XGL / Compiz is best for a OpenGL desktop or is there something even BETTER?
[04:15] <greddy> i need a socks5 server on the ubuntu box
[04:15] <Frankenstein_AFK> greddy, i dont do stuff like that :)
[04:15] <xxxx_justsomenic> i give up. ubuntu simply is not going on this machine. And the install went sooo smooth on the Tecra S1
[04:15] <LordOfTheNoobs> Frankenstein_AFK: I don't know about you, but I'd club a baby seal for linux to get some point and click, or at least not completely retarded multiscreen support.    It can't farm out a giant screen across 16 monitors hooked upto 4 remote machines like X can, but it is wonderfully simple to configure.
[04:16] <greddy> the only socks5 server i could find is ss5
[04:16] <tamale> skibobdi: You'd be hard pressed to find ANY os with better eye candy than xgl  / compiz
[04:16] <greddy> which doesn't seems to be working
[04:16] <scrappy_> xxxx_justsomenic: you could always try edgy :)
[04:16] <greddy> and i have no clue why
[04:16] <kevin1> orbin:  I did start--> search for files *chen.jpg and get nothing when choosing the whole filesystem
[04:16] <Frankenstein_AFK> greddy, try to go to the support places for the paticular software you are using
[04:16] <xxxx_justsomenic> is it available? i dont mind living on the edge a bit
[04:16] <skibobdi> thankyou, ill delve a little deeper now ;)
[04:16] <_cerberus_> Hi all, installing apache2 on Ubuntu i noticed that the default scriptalias is set to /usr/lib/cgi-bin, does anyone know why they put it here rather than the usual /var/www/cgi-bin?
[04:16] <greddy> the only support for it is a forum that gets 1 post every 2 weeks :P
[04:16] <preston> scrappy_: you there?
[04:17] <scrappy_> xxxx_justsomenic: its available but once you get it working fear the update
[04:17] <greddy> i can't belive that there is only 1 program that can be used to setup a socks5 sever
[04:17] <joshuaos> Ok, I'm so close to having my bluetooth headset work now!  I've got it listed as an audio device with btsco and selected in the output plugin of xmms...
[04:17] <preston> scrappy_: haha...another question....how do I turn off 'recording'?
[04:17] <greddy> but i can't find any others
[04:17] <xxxx_justsomenic> ah i hear you. worth a try tho
[04:17] <greddy> and it seems like no one uses them :/
[04:17] <Frankenstein_AFK> greddy, try another software package maybe? or go to ##linux and ask them if they know of any good support places or someone could help you
[04:17] <xxxx_justsomenic> I really want to swtich that box off windows
[04:17] <eonbleu> is there any deb file out there that will automagically compile php into apache for ubuntu?
[04:17] <joshuaos> But when I hit play, it goes to one second and then doesn't play.  I hear a beep in the earpiece and I see in the terminal where I ran btsco:
[04:18] <joshuaos> i/o needed: connecting sco...
[04:18] <greddy> i guess ill try out ##linux
[04:18] <joshuaos> connected SCO channel
[04:18] <preston> scrappy_: nevermind...press 'q' in normal mode
[04:18] <joshuaos> Done setting sco fd
[04:18] <joshuaos> recieved AT+VGS=15
[04:18] <joshuaos> Sending up speaker change 15
[04:18] <_cerberus_> eonbleu, just use synaptic
[04:18] <eonbleu> synaptic?
[04:18] <scrappy_> preston: yeah i had to look that one up :)
[04:19] <tamale> is this the right place to be to get help with apache?
[04:19] <preston> me too
[04:19] <Frankenstein_AFK> eobanb_, apt-cache search php
[04:19] <_cerberus_> in gnome, go System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[04:19] <Frankenstein_AFK> tamale, #apache
[04:19] <orbin> kevin1: sudo updatedb
[04:19] <orbin> kevin1: then: locate *chen*.jpg
[04:19] <eonbleu> tamale: well it's a question about apache on UBUNTU
[04:19] <Tim``> ah, i found something: when i mute the PCM channel, the thru gets better - the signal isn't so loud; it's still there though
[04:19] <preston> scrappy_: what's your favorite repo?
[04:19] <tamale> eonbleu:  Yes, it is on ubuntu
[04:19] <eonbleu> _cerberus_: ah, never bothered to use the GUI, figured it was just apt prettified
[04:19] <baxter_kylie> Okay interesting... does anyone know where I can find a list of keyboard layouts for xkeyboard-layout ?
[04:20] <scrappy_> preston: im not picky i like them all equally
[04:20] <_cerberus_> it is more or less, but it makes it easy to browse the repositories
[04:20] <preston> scrappy_: no particular one?  additional ones, not the regular ones
[04:21] <scrappy_> preston: sometimes i add one for certain stuff. wine and then seveas's for freenx but other than that just universe and multiverse
[04:21] <kevin1> orbin:  locate found it... interesting... thanks!
[04:21] <wastrel> is it possible to get my palm pilot to sync with dapper?
[04:22] <orbin> kevin1: my guess is the search utility hasn't updated it's db for a while
[04:22] <orbin> kevin1: if it even has one ... not sure
[04:22] <scrappy_> preston: are there a ton of 'unofficial' ones out there or something?
[04:22] <kevin1> orbin: many thanks!
[04:22] <orbin> kevin1: rename the file, removing the "bad" first char ... shoudl work then
[04:23] <orbin> yw kevin1
[04:23] <darthlukan> hello
[04:23] <Fl0bB> sorry to be interupting the discussion, but I was wondering if someone could help me out a bit with getting ubuntu to boot from a USB-stick (yes ive read the wiki), both pm and channel works for me. thanks in advance :)
[04:23] <Tim``> ah, i've got a bit further: i can mute all mic input by disablingthe capture channel's capture, but that turns off the mic input as well as the unwanted input
[04:24] <Alynna> hello.  I am having a problem with my kubuntu install I cant seem to figure out on my own.
[04:24] <Dasnipa`> Alynna, #kubuntu
[04:24] <Alynna> for a kernel issue?
[04:25] <preston> scrappy_: I've seen a few...i did a search on the forums once and found a thread that listed hundreds...gotta find that thread again
[04:25] <Tim``> FIXED IT
[04:25] <Tim``> :D
[04:25] <Dasnipa`> #kubuntu is for kubuntu questions kubuntu is KDE window manager, ubuntu is gnome
[04:25] <Alynna> the problem is that only the -386 kernels will boot on my machine.
[04:25] <Tim``> thanks to those who helped :)
[04:25] <Tim``> and now, bedtime
[04:25] <darthlukan> anybody here run 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:25] <Alynna> the -686 ones hang before even getting to 'Uncompressing Linux ...'
[04:26] <LeeJunFan> Alynna: what processor do you have?
[04:26] <Alynna> my CPU is a P4 2.8ghz HT
[04:26] <Alynna> I would like to use the hyperthreading, thus my interest in the -686 series
[04:27] <skibobdi> darthlukan: I'm currently about 75% installing it now
[04:27] <scrappy_> anyone here use traditional chinese char? im trying to learn but not sure what options are available for inputting them or any word processing software under linux..
[04:27] <orbin> Alynna: how are you installing the other kernels?
[04:27] <Alynna> aptitude.
[04:28] <orbin> Alynna: what package?
[04:28] <Alynna> linux-image-<version>-686
[04:28] <jrsims> hey, anyone here running zsnes for roms?
[04:29] <jrsims> anyone at all? For some reason, the bilinear filter decided to stop working.
[04:29] <KrisWood> Can anyone recommend a good svn server for ubuntu? or is there only one?
[04:30] <Alynna> i may be doing something dumb but I havent found it yet and I am usually pretty smart about these things..
[04:30] <Alynna> its not even getting to 'Uncompressing Linux'.. which suggests a failure in grub ..
[04:31] <zF> what is the default picture viewer - I deleted it -.-
[04:31] <darthlukan> Alynna: you may have an acpi problem
[04:31] <KrisWood> what are you getting, Alynna?
[04:31] <the_lord> Hi!
[04:31] <Alynna> 386 kernels boot.
[04:31] <darthlukan> Alynna: try acpi=no at the boot prompt
[04:31] <the_lord> how do I put nice images to the grub menu?
[04:31] <Alynna> 686 kernels hang before "Uncompressing Linux..."
[04:31] <LeeJunFan> Alynna: yeah, it does sound like grub if it's pre bzimage decompress.
[04:32] <seven11> Odd request, anyone know of an alarm clock program what uses the motherboard speaker?
[04:32] <zF> Erm, can someone tell me the default picture viewer program, I ran an apt-cache search but deleted it a whie ago
[04:32] <LeeJunFan> Alynna: I wonder if you installed lilo and used that if you'd have better luck - although I know other people have to be using the same processor maybe it's a bios thing.
[04:33] <orbin> Alynna: something to try: append "acpi=off noacpi" to the end of the grub kernel line
[04:33] <blind> Good news and bad news!
[04:33] <blind> Good news: I finally created a working xserver.conf file for dual-monitor diplay. Bad news: I forgot to detail my monitors, so I'm stuck on 640x480 resolution until I do so :P
[04:33] <incandenza> seven11: at 07:00 echo ^G^G^G^G
[04:33] <yoink> i'm having some issues with slow drawing of my screen under X. You can litteraly watch the screen refresh, but I can't seem to find much in the forms or on thd web. The video card is an older ATI Rage Pro AGP card, but for this 2D stuff it shouldn't be noticeably slow. Any ideas?
[04:33] <blind> xorg.conf, rather
[04:33] <kaatil> hmm.. seem installing some libs result in removing many program. bah.
[04:33] <Alynna> right now due to a problem with Windows XP, I have lilo bootstraping grub, because Windows XP overwrites grub's stage 2.
[04:33] <kaatil> wrong channel
[04:33] <shawnr_> yoink, how much ram
[04:33] <yoink> f589
[04:34] <zoidberg> guys i have a problem
[04:34] <yoink> oops shawnr_ 586MB
[04:34] <seven11> incandenza: what?
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> zoidberg, ask away
[04:34] <shawnr_> 586?
[04:34] <yoink> *typing while eating a fudgecicle)
[04:34] <yoink> shawnr_, yeah, 2x256 + 64
[04:34] <zoidberg> i was trying to install ubuntu dapper on an PII 350 MHZ 130 mb RAM 6.0 GB pc
[04:34] <shawnr_> ahh
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> typing while eating a peach =D
[04:34] <shawnr_> old ram im guessing
[04:34] <zoidberg> when i put in the cd i hit install/start ubuntu
[04:34] <Alynna> i'm going to force a reinstall of grub
[04:34] <LethalSword> hello everybody, I just installed ubuntu 6.06 and my screen resolution can't be changed
[04:34] <shawnr_> yoink, whats cpu?
[04:34] <darthlukan> mac and cheese here ;)
[04:34] <orbin> yoink: do you notice it at idle desktop?  or are you running an i3d app?  and what video driver are you running?
[04:35] <zoidberg> it stats i see the ubuntu logo witht eh litltle progress bar
[04:35] <yoink> PIII 733
[04:35] <LethalSword> does anybody know how to fix ?
[04:35] <wastrel> is it possible to get my palm pilot to sync with dapper?
[04:35] <blind> wastrel: yes
[04:35] <orbin> s/i3d/3d
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink: Lose the 64.. it isnt helping you
[04:35] <Kyral_Laptop> wastrel: yes
[04:35] <LeeJunFan> Alynna: not sure I understand your windows issue [xp with grub works for me] , but I wonder if that could have something to do with it.
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> zoidberg, you will need the alternate install i'm guessing
[04:35] <davegoodson> Hi, ive got network-manager-gnome installed, and my laptop keeps connecting to another router that isnt secure, how do i set my router to the default connection??
[04:35] <zoidberg> then i get a whole bunch of errors and then i get this
[04:35] <shawnr_> Leathal, edit your xorg.conf
[04:35] <LethalSword> erm how
[04:35] <wastrel> Kyral_Laptop:  gpilotd keeps segfaulting on me.  even pilot-link segfaults
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> zoidberg, ya i've had issues on some of the older systems with limited ram
[04:35] <zoidberg> i'm show "bin/sh cannot access tty"
[04:35] <shawnr_> google "edit xorg.conf" maybe ?
[04:35] <zoidberg> and then i have a command line
[04:35] <zoidberg> ?
[04:35] <zoidberg> any help?
[04:35] <Kyral_Laptop> wastrel: ah nevermind
[04:36] <Kyral_Laptop> I was gonna say pilot-link :P
[04:36] <yoink> orbin,  2d screen redraws are very slow
[04:36] <davegoodson> Hi, ive got network-manager-gnome installed, and my laptop keeps connecting to another router that isnt secure, how do i set my router to the default connection??
[04:36] <George> any way of making the default boot process present its information in a more organised way when you're not using bootsplash?
[04:36] <zoidberg> nomasteryoda i tried running it in sfae mode but same problem
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Alynna: Can we assume XP is the first partition on the first drive
[04:36] <darthlukan> zoidberg:try $sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and really pay attention to the comments and drivers
[04:36] <yoink> like if I have a full screen terminal open and am using "less" every new line takes a second to come up. And you can litterally watch the redraw down the screen.
[04:36] <zoidberg> okay then what darthlukan??
[04:36] <shawnr_> LethalSword, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:37] <yoink> my xorg.conf shows I'm using the "ati" driver
[04:37] <LethalSword> thx
[04:37] <darthlukan> zoidberg: you have a resolution issue right?
[04:37] <zoidberg> i dunno?
[04:37] <zoidberg> i dunno what the issue is
[04:37] <darthlukan> zoidberg: what is your screen doing?
[04:37] <davegoodson> Hi, ive got network-manager-gnome installed, and my laptop keeps connecting to another router that isnt secure, how do i set it to connect to my secure router by default?
[04:37] <wastrel> Kyral_Laptop:  it works for you on dapper?
[04:37] <yoink> and my screen is at 1280x1024, as it was post-install. 1024x768 doesn't change matter though, just less to redraw
[04:37] <zoidberg> i just get cannot access "sh/bin" and then a cmmomand line
[04:37] <darthlukan> zoidberg: and what card do you have installed
[04:37] <yoink> matter=matters
[04:37] <shawnr_> George, run with the "quiet" option
[04:37] <incandenza> seven11: that was my suggestion for an alarm clock program
[04:37] <yoink> amd so the 64 could be making things worse RAM-wise huh?
[04:37] <zoidberg> what do you mean?
[04:38] <zoidberg> video card?
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink: have you tried vesa?
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> his installer dumpped before it was complete... zoidberg is that what happened?
[04:38] <bugnthecode> ok, I have a huge problem. I just finished the install and configuration of my ubuntu wanna-be server, and I edited the hosts file and removed the other entries after localhost.
[04:38] <bll3r> hello everyone i have a quick question
[04:38] <bugnthecode> now I can't root!
[04:38] <Alynna> XP is hda1, Linux is hdb2 and hdb3.  The system boots from hdb, going from lilo in the mbr of hdb to the boot sector of hdb2.
[04:38] <zoidberg> i'm not sure whatever the dafult onboard video card is for PII dells optiplex
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink: Yes that 64 is NOT helping anything
[04:38] <bll3r> I was wondering how you change the maintenece levels
[04:38] <George> shawnr_: ok
[04:38] <yoink> Jack_Sparrow, no. I'll give it a shot (both Vesa and yanking the 64)
[04:38] <bugnthecode> it gives me an error saying "can not gethostbyname()"
[04:38] <seven11> incandenza: but echo ^G^G^G^G just echos ^G^G^G^G
[04:38] <George> shawnr_: I'm running a custom kernel btw
[04:38] <darthlukan> zoidberg: what kind of video card are you using and when you boot do you get a black screen with a console or do you get a minimal gui, does your gui have weird pics
[04:38] <LethalSword> shawnr_: where exactly in this file is the resolution?
[04:38] <yoink> brb.
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink: do you know how to F6 at grub to set vesa
[04:38] <zoidberg> i dont get an gui
[04:39] <incandenza> seven11: type is as ^V^G so it does it literally
[04:39] <shawnr_> LethalSword, did you look?
[04:39] <zoidberg> i get a ms-dos like command line
[04:39] <yoink> Jack_Sparrow, I'll read up on it now
[04:39] <bll3r> does anyone know how to change the levels in comnad line?
[04:39] <shawnr_> LethalSword, keep looking
[04:39] <LethalSword> i see nothing
[04:39] <LethalSword> seriously
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink:  Grub Boot Options to try (F6)  ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[04:39] <incandenza> seven11: also, you actually have to do it >/dev/console (and set the permissions so you can write to it)...  otherwise it will mail you the output
[04:39] <darthlukan> zoidberg: ok, so all you have is console
[04:39] <LethalSword> except for notes
[04:39] <zoidberg> yup
[04:39] <yoink> Jack_Sparrow, it's only slow under X though
[04:39] <shawnr_> keep going
[04:39] <yoink> not in Runlevel 3
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> it is ok under the gui?
[04:39] <wastrel> blind: it's working for you on dapper?  everything segfaults on me.
[04:40] <darthlukan> zoidberg: are you booted into console right now on your computer? or are you dualbooting using windows to chat right now?
[04:40] <bll3r> damn no body knows??
[04:40] <shawnr_> LethalSword, if you didn't have anything in your xorg file, x wouldn't start. and you wouldn
[04:40] <zoidberg> no booted into console
[04:40] <yoink> no Gnome is slow to redraw while console is fast
[04:40] <blind> wastrel: I forgot the question.
[04:40] <zoidberg> no os on it right now
[04:40] <seven11> incandenza care too pm me a step by step? =D
[04:40] <shawnr_> be in here now
[04:40] <davegoodson> Hi, ive got network-manager-gnome installed, and my laptop keeps connecting to another router that isnt secure, how do i set it to connect to my secure router by default?
[04:40] <wastrel> blind:  sync palm with dapper
[04:40] <darthlukan> zoidberg: but you are able to chat right now?
[04:40] <zoidberg> i'm on another computer right now talking to u guys
[04:40] <blind> oh, I don't have a palm.
[04:40] <zoidberg> yes i am
[04:40] <zoidberg> the computer is in the next room
[04:40] <blind> I _had_ a pocket pc, and that worked just fine.
[04:40] <darthlukan> zoidberg: ok, perfect
[04:40] <wastrel> pilot sync is badly broken in dapper
[04:40] <KrisWood> ok, I found the answer to my own question, ubuntu comes with a svn server apparently, but there's no man page for it. Does anyone know how I start using an svn server on my ubuntu box?
[04:40] <darthlukan> zoidberg: login to console
[04:40] <yoink> sorry if I wasn't clear on that
[04:40] <LeeJunFan> bugnthecode: reboot, use e to edit when grub starts, add init=/bin/sh to the kernel options and boot. You will have root privileges then and can repair your hosts file.
[04:41] <zoidberg> i'm in the console right now
[04:41] <LethalSword> shawnr_: i found it but where do i edit the resolution?
[04:41] <zoidberg> the "bin/sh not avaiable" message is there
[04:41] <kedarguru> hey can someone help me out?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink:  Ok, pull the extra ram, though that isnt the issue here, so you can pull it later, try vesa
[04:41] <zoidberg> and i have a command line
[04:41] <zoidberg> what now
[04:41] <zoidberg> ?
[04:41] <darthlukan> then type this command: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:41] <DanaG> !udev
[04:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about udev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:41] <shawnr_> LethalSword, just change it to what you want
[04:41] <kedarguru> I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to get a scanner to work
[04:41] <zoidberg> okay anything in specific you want me to look at
[04:41] <zoidberg> ?
[04:41] <LethalSword> yes shawnr_ but where ?
[04:41] <bll3r> dave iwconfig ra0 essid "ESSID"
[04:41] <LeeJunFan> bugnthecode: you will need to cat /etc/hostname and make sure there's a <IP_ADDRESS> <your hostname> line in /etc/hosts, then reboot again normally.
[04:41] <davegoodson> !network
[04:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about network - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:41] <George> shawnr_: is the quiet option ubuntu-kernel-specific?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kedarguru: have you tried xsane
[04:41] <davegoodson> !network-manager-gnome
[04:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about network-manager-gnome - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:42] <shawnr_> George no
[04:42] <shawnr_> LethalSword, you said you found the resolutions. so edit them to say what you want
[04:42] <darthlukan> zoidberg: scroll down with your arrow key until you see something in the device section that mentions your video card
[04:42] <zoidberg> datklukan i will be back in a sec i will go ahead an type that in
[04:42] <George> shawnr_: ok
[04:42] <davegoodson> Hi, ive got network-manager-gnome installed, and my laptop keeps connecting to another router that isnt secure, how do i set it to connect to my secure router by default?
[04:42] <kedarguru> when I call xsane it doesn't find my scanner
[04:42] <darthlukan> zoidberg: ok
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> kedarguru: k.. what scanner?
[04:42] <kedarguru> and sane-find-scanner, for some reason, doesn't work?
[04:43] <drewfus> how do i open ports for azureus?
[04:43] <kedarguru> I've got an epson stylus cx3800
[04:43] <shawnr_> LethalSword, slow down. don't your letting the xorg intimidate you
[04:43] <shawnr_> LethalSword, what is your current resolution
[04:43] <LethalSword> 640x480
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> kedarguru: Did you look it up in supported hardware?
[04:43] <shawnr_> LethalSword, what graphics card do you have
[04:43] <kedarguru> yes
[04:43] <kedarguru> it is supported
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > kedarguru
[04:44] <kedarguru> but I have no idea what to do
[04:44] <LethalSword> shawnr_: ati radeon xpress 200 series
[04:44] <kedarguru> how to set it up, etc
[04:44] <LethalSword> it knows the card
[04:44] <shawnr_> LethalSword, did you install the proper video drivers?
[04:44] <kedarguru> I think I need to configure the backend?
[04:44] <kedarguru> but I don't know how to do that
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> kedarguru: Was it plugged in when you booted?  when you installed?
[04:44] <shawnr_> LethalSword, did you install the ati drivers?
[04:44] <LethalSword> it came with them
[04:44] <KrisWood> does anyone here know anything about installing a subversion server?
[04:44] <kedarguru> when I installed sane?
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> no the scanner
[04:45] <shawnr_> LethalSword, no it didn't
[04:45] <zoidberg> i'm back
[04:45] <shawnr_> LethalSword, it comes with generic ati drivers
[04:45] <kedarguru> the scanner was plugged in yeah
[04:45] <darthlukan> zoidberg: ok
[04:45] <LethalSword>  Device          "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Xpress 200 (RS480)"
[04:45] <LethalSword> ?
[04:45] <LethalSword> see?
[04:45] <zoidberg> it says "bin/sh nano cannot be found"
[04:45] <shawnr_> LethalSword, so what.
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> I need to leave and work on a different box (for $)....  good luck, someone will be able to help
[04:46] <LethalSword> doesn't that mean the driver is installed?
[04:46] <darthlukan> zoidberg: wow
[04:46] <shawnr_> LethalSword, just cause it can connect to your card doesn't mean you have the proper drivers
[04:46] <zoidberg> i know
[04:46] <kedarguru> haha alright
[04:46] <kedarguru> thanks though
[04:46] <LethalSword> ok
[04:46] <h8red> can someone tell me how to save the fstab after inputing the device i want to mount each boot?
[04:46] <zoidberg> no other editing app either
[04:46] <LethalSword> where can i get the drivers then?
[04:46] <darthlukan> zoidberg: try this: bash --login
[04:46] <shawnr_> LethalSword, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29
[04:46] <kedarguru> alright can someone help me to work a scanner then?
[04:46] <LethalSword> ok thanks
[04:46] <incandenza> h8red: what editor are you using?
[04:46] <zoidberg> okay
[04:47] <h8red> incandenza: i was using the terminal vi /etc/fstab
[04:47] <wastrel> has anyone got usb palm sync working in dapper?
[04:47] <h8red> then input o for new line
[04:47] <zoidberg> sayss cannot be foubd too
[04:47] <incandenza> h8red: put sudo before that so it will let you write it
[04:47] <darthlukan> zoidberg: interesting
[04:47] <kedarguru> can someone help me to work a scanner?
[04:47] <zoidberg> lissen i gotta go eat
[04:47] <darthlukan> zoidberg: you using a fresh install of dapper
[04:47] <zoidberg> i'll bea back in 20 minutes
[04:47] <blind> YES! I have my dual-monitor layout working perfectly!! :]
[04:48] <kedarguru> please?
[04:48] <darthlukan> zoidberg: ok, email me
[04:48] <blind> Err.. one problem. Anyone have a dual-monitor display?
[04:48] <h8red> incandenza: so - sudo vi /etc/fstab, then o, then how do i save, just exit terminal?
[04:48] <Dasnipa`> wastrel, ive heard of this for certain brand devices but not all
[04:48] <kedarguru> can someone help me to work a scanner?
[04:48] <wastrel> Dasnipa`:  what do you mean?  certain devices work, but others don't?
[04:48] <incandenza> h8red: o, type line, press ESC, ':wq' to save
[04:49] <Dasnipa`> wastrel, certain devices play nicer with the protocol than others... others can be rather proprietary... like DELLs
[04:49] <tamale> the boys over in #apache tell me my problem is most likely ubuntu specific...  can anyone try and help?  I'm getting "The connection was reset"  and my error logs only say that "[Tue Aug 08 19:45:07 2006]  [notice]  caught SIGTERM, shutting down"
[04:49] <wastrel> Dasnipa`:  i'm talking palm os, not pocketpc
[04:50] <Dasnipa`> wastrel, i think palmos has more luck... but id try googling it a bit... also many that have palmos are able to be reformatted and linux run on it ;)
[04:51] <wastrel> Dasnipa`:  i just want it to sync - worked in breezy, broken in dapper
[04:51] <justin420> hi all. anybody help with deleting a linux-swap partition with gparted? It has a little picture of a lock next too it; it wont let me delete it.
[04:51] <darthlukan> has anyone experienced any issues with a source recompile of most recent kernels for amd64 on dapper?
[04:51] <LethalSword> is that !tell bot thingy still here?
[04:51] <jbroome> LethalSword: yeah
[04:51] <jbroome> !bot > LethalSword
[04:51] <Dasnipa`> wastrel, oh many bug report for that then
[04:51] <Dasnipa`> maybe*
[04:51] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about java
[04:51] <devz0r> my network is connected through a router
[04:52] <h8red> incandenza: thank you, that worked, but when using fstab without sudo, how do I exit to go back to terminal?
[04:52] <Thor2> I have two ubuntu instalations, same hard disk, different partitions. How do I access the other instalations files ?
[04:52] <LethalSword> i wish i didn't have such slow internet
[04:52] <LethalSword> downloading stuff is too slow as crap
[04:52] <devz0r> i'm trying to enable a printer on my computer that is connected to another computer with samba
[04:52] <odla> here's a real easy question...how do i create a shortcut to /home/odla on my desktop?  so that i can drag and drop files into it
[04:52] <devz0r> and i get Unable to get printer status (client-error-forbidden)!
[04:52] <tamale> LethalSword:  I feel 'ya.. I'm gettin less than 1kb/s and ping times in excess of 1.5 seconds... this is ludicrous
[04:52] <incandenza> h8red: ESC then :q
[04:52] <shawnr_> tamale, just to let you know. i searched "[notice]  caught SIGTERM, shutting down" on google and got over 20,000 results
[04:53] <orbin> Thor2: mount the other install's partitions
[04:53] <incandenza> h8red: or :q! to force it to lose the changes
[04:53] <darthlukan> odla: right click and create new folder on your desktop
[04:53] <blind> Okay, so I got my dual-monitor layout working, but how do I move a window from one screen to another?
[04:53] <h8red> incandenza: thank you
[04:53] <tamale> shawnr_:  Evidently it's a very common generic error message.. it doesn't help narrow down what's happening at all.
[04:53] <devz0r> my network is connected through a router
[04:53] <devz0r> i'm trying to enable a printer on my computer that is connected to another computer with samba
[04:53] <devz0r> and i get Unable to get printer status (client-error-forbidden)!
[04:53] <incandenza> h8red: np
[04:54] <darthlukan> has anyone experienced any issues with a source recompile of most recent kernels for amd64 on dapper?
[04:54] <blueswirl> hello all, does anyone know how to find out what keymap is being used?
[04:54] <Thor2> how do I mount the other partition
[04:54] <Thor2> ?
[04:55] <darthlukan> i would like to know before i spend however long  upgrading my kernel from tar.gz
[04:55] <unstablesob> if i added a 3rd party repository, and installed some packages that upgraded ubuntu packages, is there an 'easy' way to downgrade back to the ubuntu supplied packages?
[04:55] <orbin> Thor2: sys > admin > disks ... or direct commandsfstab
[04:55] <blueswirl> right, connection problems sorted :P
[04:56] <Dasnipa`> unstablesob, you would apt-get remove <package> probably
[04:56] <LethalSword> wow 10 minutes of updating drivers :( at my dads it would take 10 seconds :(
[04:56] <unstablesob> is there a way to get a list of installed debs w/their corresponding repository source?
[04:56] <Thor2> its /dev/hdb1, I tried enable but nothing happened
[04:57] <blueswirl> i'll ask again, just in case: how'd you find out what keymap is being used?
[04:57] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about limewire
[04:57] <orbin> unstablesob: synaptic's nt too shabby
[04:57] <orbin> s/nt/not
[04:57] <AngryElf_> Thor2, man mount
[04:57] <Thor2> Status: inacessible
[04:57] <unstablesob> looking for something grep'able
[04:57] <azureal> hey all... configuring my xterm =)
[04:58] <azureal> wondering what xterm*loginShell refers to?
[04:58] <Lilandra> Hello
[04:58] <baxter_kylie> Have a good night all.
[04:59] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about amsn
[04:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about amsn - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:59] <LethalSword> >_>
[05:00] <Lilandra> Um, may I ask for help here?
[05:00] <Thor2> managed. thanks
[05:00] <blueswirl> Lilandra, yes
[05:00] <Thor2> I had to first create a directory in /mnt
[05:00] <Thor2> then mount worked
[05:00] <Thor2> :)
[05:00] <Lilandra> cool :)
[05:00] <Thor2> Thanks, bye!
[05:00] <bimberi> Lilandra: sure, ask away :)
[05:00] <Lilandra> Does anybody use bluetooth on their linux systems?
[05:01] <kaatil> yo
[05:02] <odla> that didn't quite work...i've dragged the home folder from the system menu except i can't drop files into it
[05:02] <odla> i mean the places menu
[05:02] <blueswirl> i'll once more before i go, as i can feel half life 2 calling me... does anyone know how to find out which keymap is being used?
[05:02] <bimberi> Lilandra: if you're having problems with bluetooth, try describing them.  There is some online help too...
[05:02] <bimberi> !bluetooth
[05:02] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:03] <Lilandra> yes, i'm looking at the setup. i came here to ask questions if i got trouble...so..
[05:03] <Lilandra> and say hello too
[05:03] <Lilandra> :)
[05:03] <bimberi> Lilandra: kk :)
[05:03] <Lilandra> in setup devices: sudo hidd --search should produce output?
[05:04] <kaatil> is there a program that you can set up for the second monitor?
[05:04] <kaatil> *think hard*
[05:05] <blueswirl> ah well, i'll try again later, night all
[05:05] <Lilandra> i just get Searching...
[05:05] <Lilandra> and then it finishes, should there be other output?
[05:06] <bimberi> Lilandra: i would say so :|
[05:06] <Lilandra> hm
[05:06] <Giskard> guys why when i make a fat32 partition with mkdosfs i cant use it, i dont have all the permissions :S
[05:07] <Lilandra> im not getting anything
[05:08] <LethalSword> shawnr_: i did what that site said how do i change my resolution now?
[05:08] <shawnr_> Lethal,, did you restart x?
[05:08] <LethalSword> LOL!
[05:08] <LethalSword> i forgot
[05:08] <LethalSword> sry
[05:08] <shawnr_> i'll be here
[05:08] <shawnr_> lol
[05:08] <LethalSword> brb then i guess
[05:09] <_Devil> hi.. i need help mounting my stubborn camera
[05:09] <skibobdi> hi i just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.06 64bit, I get a complete crash immediately after the ubuntu login screen!, ive checked the xorg log files, which other log files should checked for this kind of error?
[05:09] <tate_> Hey, I am having a serious problem with Dapper Drake, I can't run any of the admin tools vcause it "can't copy my .Xauthority file"?
[05:09] <odla> _Devil: it's not automounting?
[05:09] <odla> _Devil: does it show up in dmesg?
[05:09] <scrappy_> tate_: sudo chown -R username  ~/
[05:10] <_Devil> it doesnt
[05:10] <owen_> im having some serious problems, my file browser does not show one of my partitions, if i edit my fstab it does not show the partition i add... its acting really strange, and yes i enter the entry in the right format...
[05:10] <odla> _Devil: it doesn't on both?
[05:10] <scrappy_> tate_: or just rm ~/.Xauthority
[05:10] <_Devil> yes
[05:10] <odla> _Devil: hrm...that's not good
[05:10] <_Devil> shows up in lsusb
[05:10] <odla> _Devil: what's the device?  /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 perhaps?
[05:10] <_Devil> neither worked when trying to mount
[05:11] <odla> _Devil: try pmount /dev/sda1 /media/camera
[05:11] <owen_> what does pmount do/
[05:11] <owen_> ?
[05:11] <odla> similar to mount
[05:11] <odla> man pmount for more details
[05:11] <LethalSword> wow thanks shawnr_ :)
[05:12] <shawnr_> yup
[05:12] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about tar
[05:12] <secretpickle> hello
[05:12] <_Devil> odla, k-a-s@elora:~$ sudo pmount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /home/k-a-s/Desktop
[05:12] <_Devil> Error: '/' must not occur in label name
[05:12] <_Devil> :o
[05:12] <owen_> Error: '/' must not occur in label name
[05:12] <odla> _Devil: try pmount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/camera
[05:13] <incandenza> _Devil: replace pmount with mount if you're doing it that way
[05:13] <_Devil> k-a-s@elora:~$ sudo pmount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/camera
[05:13] <_Devil> Error: device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[05:13] <secretpickle> I have a huge windows NTFS partition and my ubuntu partition is really small because I thought I wouldn't use it. It turns out I use ubuntu and I barely touch windows, although I need it for video editing about twice a week. Anyways, does anyone know how I can change the partition sizes w/out deleting or reformatting my data?
[05:13] <LethalSword> I am noticing webpages are not loading as fast as they should be
[05:13] <LethalSword> is there anyway to fix it?
[05:13] <odla> _Devil: then it's not /dev/sda1 :)
[05:13] <incandenza> secretpickle: get the gparted livecd
[05:13] <secretpickle> LethalSword: are you uploading a lot of data?
[05:14] <LethalSword> secretpickle: no I'm not
[05:14] <secretpickle> incandenza: mk, and then just boot w/the live CD and then use gparted?
[05:14] <LethalSword> i just installed ubuntu less then an hour ago
[05:14] <zoidberg> hey darthlukan i'm back are u still there?
[05:14] <secretpickle> LethalSword: hrmmm...idk then
[05:14] <LethalSword> ok
[05:14] <LethalSword> lol
[05:14] <incandenza> secretpickle: yeah, you can shrink the NTFS partition that way
[05:14] <LethalSword> !amsn
[05:14] <BeepAU> can someone please help me? i can't seem to install java properly.
[05:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about amsn - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:14] <zoidberg> okay guys i have a problem
[05:14] <_Devil> it didnt work on sda2 either - any other suggestions?
[05:14] <secretpickle> incandenza: can I make the ext2 partition bigger?
[05:14] <LethalSword> !tell BeepAU about java
[05:15] <LethalSword> :)
[05:15] <incandenza> secretpickle: only problem is, you can't grow the linux partition "backwards"...  so you'd have to copy it back further on the disk, then grow it
[05:15] <secretpickle> incandenza: Well... I think ext2, I forget and I don't know how to check
[05:15] <zoidberg> i have a PII 350 MHZ 130 RAM and i'm trying to install Dapper on it
[05:15] <tamale> how do i do multiple ip interfaces in ubuntu?  is it still  eth1, eth1:1, eth1:2 like in debian?
[05:15] <secretpickle> incandenza: I guess I could just create a big partition
[05:15] <zoidberg> i have a installation CD that i know works coz i got it to work on a friends computer
[05:15] <incandenza> secretpickle: yeah, you could just make a new one in the empty space
[05:15] <zoidberg> the trouble is right when i the gui part is supposed to start i guess
[05:15] <secretpickle> incandenza: actually I want a partition that both linux and windows can read/write
[05:15] <secretpickle> incandenza: would NTFS work?
[05:15] <incandenza> secretpickle: should probably use FAT32 then
[05:16] <BeepAU> LethalSword -- i've supposedly already got java installed. i've read that. however, when I try to run frostwire, it tells me it isn't.
[05:16] <nalioth> secretpickle: use fat32
[05:16] <zoidberg> i get an error saying "bin/sh now available" and then i get a command line
[05:16] <incandenza> secretpickle: NTFS writing isn't "fully" supported...
[05:16] <zoidberg> any help?
[05:16] <secretpickle> incandenza: what's the limit for partition size though?
[05:16] <Lilandra> im going to sleep...'night all
[05:16] <niall> can sum1 help me, im trying to install an online poker game
[05:16] <nalioth> secretpickle: 137gb
[05:16] <scrappy_> LethalSword: what does 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' say? maybe one of your dns servers
[05:16] <secretpickle> nalioth: I guess that'll have to do then, no other choices?
[05:16] <mmassonnet> NTFS is fully supported with NTFS-3G driver.
[05:16] <LethalSword> scrappy_: how do i read that?
[05:16] <zoidberg> any help guys?
[05:16] <nalioth> secretpickle: there are ext2/3 drivers for windows but i don't recommend them
[05:17] <scrappy_> LethalSword: you can just cat it or gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[05:17] <incandenza> mmassonnet: yes, I know...  just everyone around here seems to think it's ill-advised or something
[05:17] <Psy-X> Hello
[05:17] <BeepAU> so, could anyone help me get java working for frostwire?
[05:17] <micahcowan> zoidberg, it doesn't sound like the installation went well on your system...
[05:17] <Gun_Smoke> I do i know what version on Ubuntu I am running?  ie badger, dapper, etc
[05:17] <zoidberg> well the thing is
[05:17] <zoidberg> i havent INSTALLED IT YET
[05:17] <nalioth> BeepAU: did you not get a private message from ubotu?
[05:17] <secretpickle> nalioth: how can I get statistics in ubuntu about my ext2 partition
[05:17] <Gun_Smoke> *how
[05:17] <zoidberg> i mean right when i put in the cd
[05:17] <micahcowan> I take it the real message was "/bin/sh is not available" ?
[05:17] <Psy-X> I'll find out
[05:17] <secretpickle> nalioth: like how much space  is left, etc
[05:17] <zoidberg> i hit install
[05:18] <LethalSword> scappy_: there are name servers there
[05:18] <tamale> does anyone know how to set up virtual hosts?  it looks like one of my extra ips is working but none of the others are
[05:18] <zoidberg> i even tried it in safe graphics mode
[05:18] <BeepAU> nalioth -- yes. i've already read that page.
[05:18] <zoidberg> and then i see the ubuntu logo witht he progress bar loading some stuff
[05:18] <nalioth> secretpickle: df or du or xdiskusage or discus
[05:18] <shawnr_> BeepAU, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[05:18] <secretpickle> nalioth: k
[05:18] <scrappy_> LethalSword: i was thinking the first server or two wasnt working and that was causing it to be slow
[05:18] <Phoul> Hello
[05:18] <zoidberg> and then i get all these error messages concluding with "bin/sh not available tty" and then a command line
[05:18] <micahcowan> zoidberg, cdrom read error, perhaps, then. Have you restarted and had this problem multiple times?
[05:18] <Phoul> How would i go about grepping a directory of logs for a certin word
[05:18] <LethalSword> search private
[05:18] <LethalSword> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:18] <LethalSword> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:18] <LethalSword> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:18] <Phoul> I seem to recall grep -r but thats not right
[05:19] <secretpickle> nalioth: it seems like when I delete stuff, I'm still using 100% of my hard drive space
[05:19] <micahcowan> zoidberg, are you able to actually type commands at the commandline?
[05:19] <LethalSword> scapp_: thats all it says :)
[05:19] <zoidberg> yes
[05:19] <scrappy_> LethalSword: maybe do dig google.com
[05:19] <owen_> im having problems with my partitions, one of them is not being detected, all of them are all ext3 - when i make an entry is fstab the partition i enter dissapears, if i mount anyhting, when i restart the mount is unmounted...
[05:19] <nalioth> secretpickle: idk what to tell ya, maybe ya got a lotta stuff?
[05:19] <zoidberg> its like an msdos command line
[05:19] <BeepAU> shawnr_ -- will this make it work for frostwire?
[05:19] <zoidberg> GUI hasnt started
[05:19] <niall> can sum1 help me?
[05:19] <secretpickle> nalioth: is there like a recycle bin that has to be emptied or something?
[05:19] <scrappy_> LethalSword: what server does it say you router or one of the others
[05:19] <shawnr_> BeepAU, yes
[05:19] <shawnr_> BeepAU, i use that how to all the time. never have frostwire problems
[05:20] <nalioth> secretpickle: you can look in ~/.Trash
[05:20] <LethalSword> top one is router scrappy_
[05:20] <BeepAU> shawnr_ -- ok, i'll try it out. thankyou.
[05:20] <nalioth> secretpickle: do you use kde things?
[05:20] <secretpickle> nalioth: like ktorrent?
[05:20] <zoidberg> micahcowan are u there...any help?
[05:20] <nalioth> secretpickle: in ~/.local/share/ is a kde trash bin
[05:20] <secretpickle> nalioth: yea my trash directory is full of all the stuff I thought I deleted...lol
[05:21] <scrappy_> LethalSword: the command 'dig something.com' should respond with dns info and tell you which server it used.  if your router is the server maybe remove the other entries from resolv.conf file.. or vice versa
[05:21] <tate_> okay look, I deleted .Xauthority and now I can't even log in
[05:21] <micahcowan> zoidberg, one way or another, it sounds like a cdrom read error.
[05:21] <secretpickle> nalioth: cool, my pr0n... I didn't think I deleted that... :-P
[05:21] <micahcowan> try cleaning it, maybe?
[05:21] <zoidberg> its not though
[05:21] <tate_> xbreaks down when I attempt to log in and leaves it hanging
[05:21] <niall> ????
[05:21] <zoidberg> i've tried several ubuntu cds
[05:21] <zoidberg> that I know work coz i've installed it on other computers
[05:21] <LethalSword> ;; SERVER: <IP_ADDRESS>#53(<IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:21] <micahcowan> hm. And they all do the same thing?
[05:21] <tamale> aha!  they're simply not being loaded automatically.. what brings up interfaces on bootup in ubuntu?
[05:21] <LethalSword> you mean that?
[05:22] <zoidberg> i was thinking that it was video card problem
[05:22] <zoidberg> yup
[05:22] <tate_> no .Xauthorty means no X
[05:22] <BeepAU> shawnr_ -- it's working now. thanks again.
[05:22] <shawnr_> BeepAU, np
[05:22] <zoidberg> isnt there a way to make sure VESA the generci video card thing loads from teh cd
[05:22] <secretpickle> nalioth: okay I just got rid of like half my hard drives contents
[05:22] <zoidberg> ?
[05:22] <scrappy_> LethalSword: yeah id remove everything but that from resolv.conf and see if web pages are faster
[05:22] <oxez> Is there something I can do to make samba "re-parse" my network? It was working fine until I restarted it, now it doesn't see any workgroup...
[05:22] <secretpickle> nalioth: I thought when u deleted it in the GUI it was just instantly deleted
[05:22] <scrappy_> LethalSword: or just add a # in front to comment them out
[05:23] <nalpha> guys how to get list of computer that conected to my server????
[05:23] <nalioth> no, it just goes to the trash.  you can go into your nautilus prefs and enable a "delete" function to your context menus
[05:23] <secretpickle> nalioth: thank you
[05:23] <shawnr_> LethalSword, comment them out or backup the file
[05:23] <nalioth> secretpickle: no, it just goes to the trash.  you can go into your nautilus prefs and enable a "delete" function to your context menus
[05:23] <micahcowan> zoidberg, dunno: sounds a bit over my head.
[05:23] <zoidberg> hmmm
[05:23] <zoidberg> well thanx anyways
[05:24] <LethalSword> should i remove search private as well?
[05:24] <Gun_Smoke> I'm trying to figure out what version of Ubuntu I have installed. I can't remember the terminal command.  Can someone help please?
[05:24] <nalioth> Gun_Smoke: cat /etc/issue
[05:25] <Gun_Smoke> nalioth:  Thanks
[05:25] <scrappy_> LethalSword: im not sure what that is i dont have it in my file
[05:25] <LethalSword> ok
[05:25] <LethalSword> removed
[05:25] <LethalSword> much faster!
[05:25] <LethalSword> thanks
[05:25] <scrappy_> LethalSword: np
[05:25] <LethalSword> :)
[05:25] <tate_> I have never had trouble like this with another distro, what a disaster
[05:25] <secretpickle> nalioth: thank you
[05:26] <scrappy_> tate_: are you using breezy?
[05:26] <LethalSword> yay i successfully installed amsn by myself with no help
[05:26] <dasos> i just installed xchat, i'm looking to see if there is a way to change the irc username to something different than my system login name
[05:27] <kaatil> *pat lethal* you have advanced to next circle of level. congratulation. :D
[05:27] <scrappy_> tate_: sometimes using the sudo command for apps in x messed up my .Xauthorty file under breezy
[05:27] <kaatil> heh
[05:27] <nalioth> dasos: preferences hold a lot of goodies
[05:27] <kaatil> bbl
[05:27] <orbin> dasos: xchat > server list  iirc
[05:27] <babo> is it standard to get a one year renewal on your domain name when you change registrars ? My registrar used to do this, but they don't seem to mention it on their site. Is it standard do you think ?
[05:29] <LethalSword> is there an antivirus and/or antispyware anybody would recommend?
[05:29] <verbose> for windows?
[05:30] <dasos> nalioth, orbin: all i see is a place to change nickname and realname, neither of which seems to effect the username that shows up when you /whois
[05:30] <LethalSword> no
[05:30] <LethalSword> linux
[05:30] <verbose> i've used clamav on linux
[05:30] <firehazard17> clamav
[05:30] <verbose> i'm not sure if it does spyware though
[05:30] <verbose> most new av's do though
[05:30] <verbose> kaspersky is also good
[05:30] <nalioth> dasos: it's in there somewhere (i don't use xchat to be able to tell you exactly where)
[05:31] <dasos> nalioth: ok, i appreciate the help, i'll try and dig a bit deeper
[05:31] <Sivik> has anyone here had any success with getting the bcm43xx to work in dapper?
[05:32] <orbin> dasos: xchat > server list > username field maybe
[05:32] <James_M> my machine locked up in WINE and now I can't boot
[05:32] <dasos> orbin, i'm not seeing an xchat menu, but i found a bit more info
[05:33] <dasos> i'm using xchat-gnome, i presume it has some settings hidden somewhere else
[05:33] <orbin> dasos: you using xchat or xchat-gnome?
[05:33] <knapper> Whats the best program for editing Id3 tags?
[05:33] <orbin> dasos: ah.
[05:33] <dasos> yep, new to me too
[05:33] <LethalSword> with ubuntu 6.06 can u just click install to install tar.gz or do u need to type the terminal commands?
[05:33] <orbin> dasos: i prefer normal xchat...it should be in there though
[05:33] <orbin> knapper: easytag works fine for me
[05:34] <Frankenstein> LethalSword, you cant install a gzipped file... type tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[05:34] <knapper> ill give it a shot, thanks orbin
[05:34] <dasos> orbin: i'll mess with the installer to see if i can find plain xchat, thanks for the help =)
[05:34] <bernielomax> how do I install the kernel config?
[05:34] <orbin> dasos, knapper:   yw
[05:34] <Sivik> LethalSword, try tar xvfz filename.tar.gz
[05:35] <orbin> knapper: if you want something simpler, try cowbell or tagtool
[05:36] <orbin> LethalSword: tar.gz files are gzipped archives ... they usually have install instructions inside them
[05:36] <orbin> LethalSword: what are you installing anyway?
[05:36] <LethalSword> ClamAv
[05:36] <Sivik> orbin: i already told him about the tar xvfz feagure
[05:36] <LethalSword> but when its finished downloading
[05:36] <Sivik> LethalSword, try tar xvfz filename.tar.gz in the console
[05:37] <orbin> LethalSword: canything wrong w/ the clamav in the repos?
[05:37] <Sivik> LethalSword, apt-cache search clamav
[05:37] <LethalSword> iits downloading lol
[05:37] <LethalSword> just on slow internet slow it takes 10 minutes
[05:37] <Sivik> oh well
[05:37] <orbin> LethalSword: dialup?
[05:38] <LethalSword> ultra lite :(
[05:38] <scrappy_> LethalSword: youll have to get a wireless card. thats what neighbors are for
[05:38] <LethalSword> heh
[05:38] <LethalSword> thats illegal though
[05:38] <orbin> Sivik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[05:38] <Sivik> LethalSword, not if they don't have the connection key locked
[05:39] <Sivik> orbin: already tried all of that
[05:39] <orbin> oh
[05:39] <Sivik> orbin: not getting anything when i do a iwlist scan
[05:39] <LethalSword> lol
[05:39] <scrappy_> LethalSword: nah as long as you dont login to their router because you need to forward a port so something.. :)
[05:39] <Sivik> orbin: and i'm within 3 feet of the ap
[05:39] <DanaG> aaah, I just discovered that the current evdev does NOT require a device path.
[05:39] <DanaG> Sweet.
[05:39] <DanaG> That means I don't have to muck around with creating a udev rule for my mouse.
[05:40] <nubious> hey newbie question - when I use mount to mount a ntfs filesystem on another partition, it doesn't show up as accessible - why is that?
[05:40] <Sivik> orbin: do you have a broadcom?
[05:40] <scrappy_> nubious: you can mount -o umask=000 /dev/something /media/something
[05:40] <orbin> Sivik: yes, but i don't use it :P ... i just searched the wiki for you
[05:41] <Sivik> orbin: lol
[05:41] <Sivik> orbin: it works for a while and then it stops
[05:41] <farous> orbin: ndiswrapper is your best bet
[05:41] <Sivik> farous, i never can get the ndiswrapper stuff to work either
[05:41] <orbin> farous: don't tell me, tell Sivik  :)
[05:41] <nubious> wow that worked scrappy thanks :)
[05:41] <nubious> now how do I auto mount when I load ubuntu?
[05:42] <farous> Sivik: you have to blacklist the bcm43xx module for it to work
[05:42] <orbin> !ntfs > nubious
[05:42] <Sivik> farous, how in the world do you blacklist it
[05:42] <farous> Sivik: the main prob is searching for the proper driver
[05:42] <scrappy_> nubious: youll have to add that to /etc/fstab and under the options put defaults,umask=000
[05:42] <LethalSword> erm
[05:42] <orbin> Sivik: it's on that wiki page
[05:42] <LethalSword> cody@cody-desktop:~$ tar xvzf clamav-0.88.4.tar.gz
[05:42] <LethalSword> tar: clamav-0.88.4.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[05:42] <LethalSword> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[05:42] <LethalSword> tar: Child returned status 2
[05:42] <LethalSword> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[05:42] <farous> Sivik: give me a min am udpating now will talk to you in detail mean while lookup the forums
[05:42] <scrappy_> nubious: might not be the best way but thats how i do it
[05:42] <Sivik> ok
[05:42] <Sivik> farous, thanks
[05:43] <LethalSword> the tar is on my desktop
[05:43] <orbin> LethalSword: clamav is in the repos... why intsall from source?
[05:43] <LethalSword> how do i do that?
[05:43] <orbin> you're just make things hard on yourself
[05:43] <nalioth> LethalSword: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin
[05:43] <LethalSword> ok sry
[05:43] <Sivik> farous: i have gotten the native drivers to work in the past, i'm just not getting any on iwlist scan and a non valid ap when i set it up myself
[05:43] <orbin> ew, bad english...
[05:43] <farous> Sivik: will give you a link for now http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[05:43] <Sivik> ok
[05:43] <LethalSword> orbin, where do i access the repos?
[05:43] <Tsukino> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:43] <orbin> LethalSword: use synaptic or any other apt tool
[05:43] <micahcowan> LethalSword, sudo apt-get install clamav
[05:43] <orbin> LethalSword: sys > admin > synaptic
[05:44] <micahcowan> (synaptic is better if you're not used to doing things on command-line)
[05:44] <blind> Google videos have no sound. how do i change that?
[05:44] <tate_> Hi, I built an athlon64 system and installed mythtv on it, things were going fine until this morning I installed Quake4. Now it tells me when I try to access anything administrative that the .Xauthority file can't be copied. I tried a restart and now I can't start an X session at all. Help, this is my media box and it's totally hosed over one file. I may have to reformat, if so I don't think Ubuntu will be residing on that drive.
[05:44] <orbin> LethalSword: micahcowan's command will get it for you too... up to you on which one you want to use
[05:45] <tate_> sorry for the length, but it's kind aurgent
[05:45] <LethalSword> the command doesnt work
[05:45] <LethalSword> says the file is locked
[05:45] <micahcowan> blind, perhaps something else's hogging the soundcard?
[05:45] <blind> micahcowan: nothing else is running :\
[05:45] <micahcowan> huh.
[05:45] <Nimwei> Greetings - I just downloaded the i386 6.06 alternat iso from the website and burned it but it doesn't appear to be a bootable CD. Is there a way to get it to boot? I've got a IBM boot CD with a "boot:" prompt...any ideas?
[05:45] <micahcowan> Other programs can emit sounds?
[05:45] <orbin> LethalSword: b/c synaptic is open probably ... you're going to need to enable the additional repositories anyway ... settings > repositories in synaptic
[05:46] <scrappy_> tate_: ls -l ~/ | grep .X     is the .Xauthority file owned by you or root?
[05:46] <tate_> by me
[05:46] <scrappy_> tate_: ls -la ~/ | grep .X
[05:47] <orbin> Nimwei: what happens when you boot w/ the disk in?
[05:47] <LethalSword> ok repositories all enabled
[05:47] <scrappy_> tate_: hrmm
[05:47] <Nimwei> It just goes to the generic graphical prompt telling me to strike F1 or enter the boot diskette.
[05:47] <tate_> yeah, ridiculous
[05:47] <orbin> LethalSword: click on reload ... search for clamav, double-click on it when found and it's installed
[05:47] <orbin> actually...you have to click on apply after dbl-clicking it
[05:48] <Nimwei> I'm at a boot prompt from another CD I have.  Any idea if there is a bootable kernel image on the 6.06 CD?
[05:48] <orbin> Nimwei: have you checked that the cd drive is the first boot device in bios?
[05:48] <Nimwei> Yeah, I'm sure.
[05:48] <scrappy_> tate_: well i guess you could always useradd and see if that user can login :)
[05:48] <LethalSword> im doing the command prompt way
[05:48] <LethalSword> less clicking :P
[05:48] <Nimwei> It boots other CD's fine.  It almost seems like the image I burnt isn't bootable.
[05:49] <orbin> Nimwei: what does the contents look like?
[05:49] <Nimwei> One second.
[05:49] <tate_> I tried that, it can't
[05:49] <Tsukino> Nimwei: Did you do a check on the iso you used to burn the CD?
[05:49] <tate_> I think I may have to format which is insane
[05:49] <DanaG> argh, I need a new ALSA version.
[05:50] <Nimwei> No, I didn't Tsukino.  I downloaded it directly from the Ubuntu Torrent and burned it with Alcohol120%
[05:50] <eugman> Hey, is it possible to make an ubuntu livecd that is just console? No gui.
[05:50] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about whine
[05:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about whine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:50] <Tsukino> hrm, if you got it from the torrent, the hash should be fine then
[05:50] <Tsukino> did you burn the CD at full speed?
[05:50] <orbin> Tsukino: doesn't he need to be able to boot from it to verify it anyway?
[05:51] <Tsukino> Sometimes people say they have trouble making a bootable CD if they burn it at high speeds.
[05:51] <orbin> !wine > LethalSword
[05:51] <Nimwei> Yep, "maximum" speed.
[05:51] <Tsukino> orbin: To verify the CD yes, but not the ISO he downloaded to make the CD with
[05:51] <LethalSword> lol thanks orbin :)
[05:51] <orbin> Tsukino: ah, gotcha
[05:51] <Tsukino> Nimwei: Try burning the CD at 12x or less
[05:51] <George> hrmm
[05:51] <DanaG> !I need a new ALSA version!
[05:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about I need a new ALSA version! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:51] <George> edgy doesn't seem to render fonts at all
[05:52] <DanaG> When can I expect to see an update in the repos?
[05:52] <Sivik> DanaG: sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:53] <jmghost> Has anyone seen that bug before? My desktop is completely unresponsive of mouse events -- although I can see the mouse moving, I can't click on anything
[05:53] <Nimwei> Tsukino - I'll try that.  I'll let you know in a second.
[05:53] <DanaG> Last time I looked, there wasn't an update available.
[05:53] <farous> Sivik: you black list bcm43xx in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:53] <farous> now to reboot
[05:53] <DanaG> I need 1.0.11-something
[05:53] <scrappy_> tate_: maybe you can use the xauth command to generate a new file?
[05:53] <orbin> DanaG: unlikely it will be in the official repos...unless it's a bug fix or security update iirc
[05:53] <nalioth> mon9oose: 4x or less, does the trick
[05:53] <Kr0ntab> jmghost, I've run into it at least 3 times...  once just today.
[05:53] <Kr0ntab> kind of weird...
[05:53] <jmghost> BTW, I tried restarting (killing) metacity, nautilus, the gnome panel, ...
[05:54] <Kr0ntab> had to kill X...
[05:54] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, how do you recover from that?
[05:54] <mon9oose> nalioth: Ok, I'll try again ... and for fun, 2x.
[05:54] <jmghost> Crap!!
[05:54] <LethalSword> clamav is installed, do i have to update it or anything?
[05:54] <Kr0ntab> ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:54] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, using Dapper?
[05:54] <Kr0ntab> yup
[05:54] <Sivik> LethalSword, sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:54] <nalioth> !tell mon9oose about verify
[05:54] <tate_> is that something root has to use?
[05:54] <Kr0ntab> It's mostly happened on my latptop...
[05:54] <nalioth> mon9oose: make sure your iso image is good
[05:55] <jmghost> Dammit, kind of makes WinXP looks like a stable OS after all...
[05:55] <scrappy_> tate_: what does 'xauth list' say?
[05:55] <tate_> I'll know in a second, coming up off a reboot
[05:56] <tate_> xauth list as root or as the user?
[05:56] <Kr0ntab> eh... I'm thinkin it's related to ACPI, as I think each time it's occurred after a lid open event... screen blanking after idle.. or some other variable.
[05:56] <Kr0ntab> haven't narrowed it down...
[05:56] <Nimwei> Tsukino - That appears to have fixed it.  I'll try the install now and see how she goes.
[05:56] <scrappy_> tate_: user
[05:56] <carthik> How can I update the firmware on my dvd writer using Ubuntu (I don't have windows on this machine)
[05:56] <Kr0ntab> although it is just X... so maybe it's an xorg thing
[05:57] <Nimwei> Thanks for the heads up.
[05:57] <scrappy_> tate_: i know next to nothing about it :)
[05:57] <Nimwei> carthik - Search your manufacturer's website fora  linux firmware upgrade.
[05:57] <Sivik> carthik, or check the wiki for ubuntu for the certain drive type
[05:58] <carthik> Nimwei, tried that and failed
[05:58] <wubrgamer> how do i burn mp3's in k3b ? or gnomebaker ?
[05:58] <wubrgamer> or something else ?
[05:58] <LethalSword> Does linux ever need to be defragged?
[05:58] <Nimwei> or install the drive in a windows box, upgrade the firmware and then put it back into your linux box.
[05:58] <wubrgamer> it's urgent, i promised my friend i'd burn him a cd
[05:58] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, different for me, I didn't have any ACPI event. But it seems to happen a lot with rdesktop
[05:59] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, bothered to send a bug report or you've given up like I did?
[05:59] <Kr0ntab> omg...
[05:59] <Kr0ntab> wait.
[05:59] <Kr0ntab> same thing here
[05:59] <scrappy_> LethalSword: you dont have to worry about it is sort of an automatic process in ext3 i think
[05:59] <Kr0ntab> thats exactly what it is
[05:59] <jmghost> euh?
[05:59] <Animesh> Hi all. I am an ubuntu newbie. I have been trying to install ubuntu using an iso I downloaded, but the CD seems to have an error.
[05:59] <LethalSword> lol
[05:59] <Kr0ntab> I was idle in rdesktop for a while... and thats when it happened
[05:59] <LethalSword> its not needed says the bot :p
[05:59] <Animesh> I wanted to verify the md5 checksum of the iso
[06:00] <Nimwei> Ah, speaking of ext3.  Does Unbuntu format in Reiser so my windows network can access the shares or no?
[06:00] <carthik> Nimwei, I dont have a win machine... :(
[06:00] <sethk> Animesh, ok
[06:00] <orbin> wubrgamer: what do you want to do?
[06:00] <Animesh> but I am not able to find the md5 file for the ISO
[06:00] <sethk> Animesh, usually on the site
[06:00] <wubrgamer> never mind
[06:00] <wubrgamer> found the package
[06:00] <wubrgamer> thanks though
[06:00] <sethk> Animesh, what url are you using to download?
[06:00] <Animesh> I checked the mirror site, but no .md5 files
[06:00] <sethk> Animesh, not necessarily .md5
[06:00] <Animesh> http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[06:01] <sethk> Animesh, the file can have any name.  look for a text file of short length with the same initial name
[06:01] <monkster> Once you burn the CD, there is a "check CD" option... fwiw
[06:01] <Kr0ntab> jmghost, rdesktop is the common factor.  after the remote host's screen blanks after some idle time... trying to move the mouse over it, killed X...
[06:01] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, is it always happening with rdesktop?
[06:01] <Animesh> I knoiw.. and I will check the CD..
[06:01] <Animesh> is it the MDSUMS file?
[06:01] <sethk> Animesh, I see .iso on that page
[06:01] <Kr0ntab> now that you mention it... on at least 2 of the occasions... I had an idled rdesktop session
[06:01] <Animesh> 645 bytes
[06:01] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, it killed X or just the mouse?
[06:01] <Nimwei> Or is ext3 readable by Windows? I forget. It's been a while.
[06:01] <Kr0ntab> just the mouse...
[06:01] <sethk> Animesh, 645 is certainly a possible
[06:02] <sethk> Animesh, yes, called MD5SUMS
[06:02] <yozBuntu> nimwei, certainly not natively
[06:02] <Animesh> okie.
[06:02] <sethk> Animesh, yes, that file has a bunch of md5 sums, you should find the one you need there
[06:02] <Animesh> also.. I am new to md5 on win32
[06:02] <naa> wow, this add/install programs thing is really cool
[06:02] <Animesh> any preferred utils for win md5?
[06:02] <yozBuntu> naa, you talking about synaptic ?
[06:02] <naa> I could just sit here for like 9 minutes going "oh man, I totally gotta get in on that *check*"
[06:02] <naa> synaptic is what it's called?
[06:02] <Sivik> Animesh, why are you in an ubuntu chanell if your asking about win32?
[06:03] <sethk> Animesh, I install cygwin on all my windows boxes and use the same progs I use with linux, so I have no ideas about other windows progs
[06:03] <yozBuntu> the titlebar of the window should tell you what it is?
[06:03] <sethk> Sivik, he is checking the md5sum of an ubuntu cd that he's burning
[06:03] <Animesh> @Sivik, because I am installing ubuntu, after downloading on a win machine
[06:03] <naa> it just says "add/remove applications"
[06:03] <sethk> Sivik, so it's an acceptable question
[06:03] <Sivik> Animesh, md5sum
[06:03] <Sivik> sethk: ok
[06:03] <eimajenthat> hello, I'm trying to get my atheros wireless card to work in Xubuntu.  Works automatically in Ubuntu and Kubuntu.  Don't even know where to start.  Can anyone give me a hint?
[06:03] <jmworx> Kr0ntab: strange... I just managed to recoved without having to kill X
[06:03] <eon_> when i do apt-get remove mysql-server-5.0 and then reinstall it, it still is pulling config from somewhere, cause i get access denied when trying to log onto the db
[06:03] <eon_> how do i go about fixing this/
[06:03] <Animesh> how about md5deep on sourceforge
[06:03] <Animesh> ?
[06:03] <Nimwei> Cool. I'm manually setting up a 69gb reiserfs and a 3gb swap.
[06:03] <Tsukino> Animesh, I used a program called md5summer, seemed to work fairly well
[06:03] <Animesh> any ideas
[06:04] <Ezdo> <3 [Ex0r]
[06:04] <Animesh> ok Tsukino.
[06:04] <scrappy_> eon_: apt-get remove --purge package
[06:04] <DanaG> Look at changelog for 1.0.11 -- it's major for me.
[06:04] <Sivik> Animesh, your could try it
[06:04] <DanaG> Audigy 2 Notebook.
[06:04] <sethk> Animesh, I don't know, but you can certainly try it.  install cygwin, then you have the same progs everywhere
[06:04] <eon_> scrappy_:  thanks, ill give it a shot
[06:04] <tate_> this is monstrously infuriating.  I am about to lose an ubuntu install because of one file
[06:04] <Animesh> Thanks all.
[06:04] <sethk> Animesh, or look around for an md5sum compiled for win32, which shouldn't be hard to find
[06:04] <Animesh> good idea sethk.
[06:04] <[Ex0r] > wth ?
[06:05] <Animesh> bye. thanks.
[06:05] <Sivik> Animesh, try googling it
[06:05] <[Ex0r] > <Ezdo> <3 [Ex0r]
[06:05] <[Ex0r] > what was that about ?
[06:05] <George> anyone else got trouble with fonts on edgy?
[06:05] <Sivik> George, what kernel version is edgy?
[06:05] <Ezdo> <3 [Ex0r]
[06:05] <Ezdo> <3 [H5N1]
[06:05] <Ezdo> <3 [NP] Tangent
[06:05] <Ezdo> <3 [nuts]
[06:05] <Ezdo> <3 [PUPPETS] Gonzo
[06:05] <George> Sivik: <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:05] <George> Sivik: but I'm running a self-compiled <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:06] <[Ex0r] > ah, looks like he's bot fishing
[06:06] <Sivik> George, is edgy a new ubuntu or something?
[06:06] <George> Sivik: yes
[06:06] <Sivik> George, when did it come out
[06:06] <Sivik> George, i though they just released dapper
[06:06] <orbin> naa: no, different apps ... add/remove is a nice interface to applications only (i think), whereas synaptic (sys > admin) shows all available packages
[06:06] <steveO_> they did
[06:06] <steveO_> dapper is the stable.
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [Ex0r]
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [H5N1]
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [NP] Tangent
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [nuts]
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [PUPPETS] Gonzo
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [Wiebel]
[06:06] <TheGame> hey
[06:06] <steveO_> edgy eft is the experimental
[06:06] <Sivik> ok
[06:06] <joemauch> is 7000FPS in glxgears mean i'm on accelerated drivers, not the MesaGL?
[06:06] <TheGame> how do i change how many lines my mouse wheel scrolls in firefox
[06:07] <steveO_> root, irc'ing as root is bad.
[06:07] <Sivik> joemauch, anything over 1000 means its accelerated
[06:07] <TheGame> any1?
[06:07] <orbin> steveO_: lucky he left then :)
[06:08] <TheGame> do i have to change it in xorg?
[06:09] <Sivik> TheGame, have you tried looking in the perferences for firefox?
[06:09] <TheGame> well i want it to change how many lines i scroll in general
[06:09] <Sivik> TheGame, gnome or kde?
[06:09] <TheGame> gnome
[06:09] <Sivik> TheGame, try looking in the mouse perferences in the control center
[06:09] <TheGame> its not there
[06:10] <c0mp3ng> Hey, anyone here using a gdesklet for weather that works?
[06:10] <carthik> I have the new firmware for my dvd rewriter - how do I flash the firmware in Ubuntu?
[06:10] <TheGame> the weather that comes with it works fine
[06:10] <sethk> most programs set their own scroll/click, rather than getting it from the WM
[06:10] <TheGame> WM?
[06:11] <sethk> window manager
[06:11] <varsendaggr> gdesklets seems flaky these days
[06:11] <iCod> anyone know of a cheap sound card compatible with ubuntu?
[06:11] <varsendaggr> he google earth is cool
[06:11] <dr_willis> carthik,  id have to say its proberly safest to use the dvd writers software under windows.
[06:11] <TheGame> like i know in windows you can set it in the mouse settings
[06:11] <sethk> iCod, millions of them
[06:11] <c0mp3ng> TheGame I entered a Yahoo weather URL, but it returns retrieval failed
[06:11] <orbin> yes, xmms let's you define scrollrate
[06:11] <dr_willis> iCod,  creative has some decent  cards for $25 or so
[06:11] <Sivik> TheGame, in kde, the number of lines that is scrolled at a time is in the control center
[06:11] <carthik> dr_willis, I don't have windows on any machine at home though
[06:11] <TheGame> try accuweather.com or weather.com
[06:11] <iCod> dr_willis , do most creative sound card work?
[06:11] <TheGame> im in gnome Sivik
[06:12] <dr_willis> carthik,  i dont advise running that kind of programs with wine.
[06:12] <Sivik> TheGame, i understand that, but i don't understand why its not in the control center somewhere for gnome
[06:12] <dr_willis> iCod,  not sure about some of their newer cards. But a nice Audigy2 card should work fine
[06:12] <TheGame> ya thats why i cant believeit either
[06:12] <powder> Audigy2 working fine here.
[06:12] <iCod> dr_willis and powder , thank you
[06:12] <dr_willis> iCod,  the X-fi cards are too new.. No linux support yet.
[06:12] <Sivik> TheGame, let me look in the gnome control center
[06:12] <TheGame> ok
[06:13] <iCod> ok
[06:13] <orbin> TheGame: for firefox: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59815
[06:13] <Sivik> TheGame, i gues its not in it
[06:13] <sethk> sound has problems, sometimes, on very new hardware.  it does quite well on most common older sound hardware
[06:14] <dasos> is there a quick way to test the 3d support?
[06:14] <sethk> Sivik, there may be a setting for it in a file in .gnome2, even if there isn't a control center way to change it.
[06:14] <TheGame> thanks orbin
[06:14] <devz0r> hey i've read a number of posts regarding using the mplayer plugin for Opera
[06:14] <orbin> yes, it might be hidden in gconf...maybe ask in #gnome
[06:14] <devz0r> and they all say to use gecko sdk 1.6
[06:14] <Sivik> sethk, tell TheGame that, i'm not trying to do it in gnome, i can do it with either control center, i have both kde and gnome installed and they both work at the same time in e16
[06:15] <devz0r> here's the problem: i have no idea where to find the gecko sdk 1.6
[06:15] <TheGame> ?
[06:15] <devz0r> it seems to be missing from mozilla's ftp
[06:15] <devz0r> and i cannot find it on google
[06:15] <Sivik> devz0r, did you try searching in the apt-cache?
[06:15] <devz0r> no
[06:15] <mon9oose> Would the writing mode make a difference? ( mode 1 vs mode 2 /xa ) ( in regards to error reading boot cd from pretty boot menu )
[06:15] <devz0r> how do i get to that?
[06:16] <Sivik> its not there but it would be apt-cache search mplayer-plugin
[06:16] <iCod> Hey, about the sound card, how is this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Creative-Audigy-2-PCI-Sound-Card-Firewire-SB0240_W0QQitemZ110018909303QQihZ001QQcategoryZ44981QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[06:17] <orbin> TheGame: i didn't get it either :)
[06:17] <TheGame> ya i just changed it in firefox for now
[06:17] <devz0r> so is it hopeless or is the gecko sdk 1.6 somewhere out there
[06:17] <varsendaggr> is there a screen video capture app for linux?
[06:18] <orbin> varsendaggr: istanbul has been mentioned
[06:19] <iCod> are there any other suggestions on sound cards that work well in ubuntu, something in the $20 range
[06:19] <TheGame> i knwo dynex cards work
[06:19] <TheGame> and theyre in the $20 range
[06:19] <[Ex0r] > heh, i've been in #freenode-social for 25 minutes and haven't gotten voiced yet
[06:19] <iCod> thank you TheGame
[06:20] <Dorus> hi, my toolbar in Evolution is too long, but right-click doesn't do anything. Can I delete items from the toolbar ?
[06:20] <mon9oose> [Ex0r] : it's at the whim of the staffer.
[06:20] <userundefine> iCod, chaintech av-710.  25 bucks or so.  works well.
[06:20] <Sivik> Dorus, probably
[06:20] <Dorus> Sivik, how?
[06:20] <[Ex0r] > mon9oose- Apparentely there aren't any in the channel, because every time I go in there I sit for 20+ minutes with nothing and end up leaving
[06:21] <Sivik> Dorus, did you try right clicking on them?
[06:21] <orbin> iCod: might be worth a look: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[06:21] <userundefine> [Ex0r] , what's it matter.  a +v is meaningless.
[06:21] <[Ex0r] > userundefine- because you can't talk in the channel without it?
[06:21] <powder> iCod, try this, http://www.linux.com/howtos/Hardware-HOWTO/sound.shtml
[06:21] <mon9oose> [Ex0r] : it took an hour last time ... use the ! copmmand to look at the staff list.
[06:21] <Dorus> Sivid, right-clicked between and on items, but that doesn't do anything.
[06:21] <jmworx> Kr0ntab: feel free to add details to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/55739
[06:21] <Sivik> not sure
[06:21] <tamale> Hello everyone, I found why X was failing to start.. it's trying to start up the sound config and it's failing because I don't have onboard sound on the computer the hard drive is in now... and I don't need / want sound at all... soo... how can I take out all references to a sound card in the X configuration?
[06:21] <iCod> powder, ok
[06:21] <userundefine> [Ex0r] , ah, I'm surprised anyone *actually* does that.
[06:21] <LethalSword> well
[06:21] <LethalSword> bye
[06:22] <Kr0ntab> kool deal
[06:22] <[Ex0r] > I was going to report that bot/person earlier that was flooding in here, but they left now
[06:22] <TheGame> ok
[06:22] <[Ex0r] > I gotta take back these crimpers tomorrow, they are junk
[06:22] <orbin> [Ex0r] : he quit w/ an excess flood ... doesn't that mean he got banned?
[06:23] <[Ex0r] > orbin- no, means he got booted off IRC from filling his sendq (Means he flooded himself offline)
[06:23] <TheGame> ive read that mousehweel scroll is hardcoded into gnome
[06:23] <TheGame> therefore cant be changed
[06:23] <Sivik> TheGame, another reason not to use gnome
[06:23] <TheGame> i dont like kde
[06:23] <orbin> [Ex0r] : maybe tell the "/stats p" person then
[06:23] <mon9oose> nice, sound support has way improved in the last 5 years ...
[06:23] <Sivik> TheGame, those aren't the only two gui's out there
[06:24] <[Ex0r] > orbin- nah, he's gone now
[06:24] <Sivik> TheGame, i use e16 cause i don't like kde nor gnome
[06:24] <TheGame> i like gnome tho
[06:24] <Sivik> kde looks too much like vista, and gnome looks too much like mac os 9
[06:24] <TheGame> true
[06:24] <TheGame> i dont like the look and feel of kde
[06:24] <TheGame> gnome feels fine
[06:24] <tamale> i think picking a gui for the way it looks is silly personally
[06:24] <TheGame> and gnome goes great with xglcompiz
[06:25] <Sivik> tamale, oh well, what do you use?
[06:25] <TheGame> tamale tell that to mac users
[06:25] <farous> anyone have this prob installing realplayer
[06:25] <Sivik> farous, haven't tried
[06:25] <tamale> i love xgl / compiz on gnome 'cause of the increased usability
[06:25] <Dorus> Is anyone able to right-click Evolution 2.6.1 toolbar to delete/add items?
[06:25] <DanaG> Firefox:  about:config in address bar.
[06:25] <farous> depends on xlibs but xlibs is virt package ?
[06:25] <DanaG> Search for mouse or scroll.
[06:25] <orbin> should take thit to offtopic, but i thought OSX was the top thing for usability
[06:25] <tamale> the eye candy is certainly nice too though  :)
[06:25] <farous> Sivik: how is it going with ndiswrapper
[06:25] <DanaG> Creative == AAAIEEEE.
[06:26] <Guitarhero11> Where do I put .ttf font files?
[06:26] <tamale> how can i take out all references to sound in X ?
[06:26] <tamale> i don't have a sound card..
[06:26] <Sivik> farous, i haven't tried ndiswrapper, i would rather do it with the bcm drivers, i have really never gotten it to work
[06:26] <orbin> DanaG: he's already changed it in firefox...he wants it system-wide
[06:26] <Sivik> tamale, try the xorg.conf
[06:26] <sethk> tamale, what do you mean, exactly, by take out all references?
[06:26] <farous> Sivik: do you have airforce ext card
[06:26] <DanaG> I think for desktop environments, _feel_ is what's important.
[06:27] <farous> Sivik: bcm43xx works only with b networks though
[06:27] <DanaG> Does it feel _natural_ to work with it?
[06:27] <tamale> sethk:  The install of ubuntu I did on machine X (which had a sound card) is now looking for it
[06:27] <Guitarhero11> how do i install a font?
[06:27] <tamale> and the new machine doesn't have sound at all
[06:27] <Sivik> farous, i know that
[06:27] <tamale> otherwise they're identical computers
[06:27] <Sivik> farous, my ap will work with either b or g
[06:27] <carthik> My DVD writer is sporadic when it comes to writing dvds - why is this so? It works some of the time, and some of the time it fails without any error messages when using k3b/gnomebaker etc
[06:27] <farous> Sivik: i might help you then i had it working here but did not like the speed
[06:27] <DanaG> Oh, and if you want 3 lines scroll, you can use imwheel to capture 1 scroll and send 3.
[06:27] <sethk> tamale, kde will tell you it couldn't find the sound hardware, and ask you whether it should shut up about it in the future
[06:27] <orbin> !font > Guitarhero11
[06:27] <tamale> sethk:  X isn't loading at all.
[06:27] <Sivik> farous, so you just use ndiswrapper?
[06:28] <tamale> sethk:  It's locking up
[06:28] <sethk> tamale, unlikely that is because of the sound
[06:28] <tamale> sethk:  And i'm on gnome
[06:28] <Guitarhero11> !font
[06:28] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[06:28] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[06:28] <eugman> Hey, how hard would it be to make an ubuntu like cd without the gui.
[06:28] <sethk> tamale, what do you see in the X log?
[06:28] <iCod> I'm gonna get the Sound Blaster Live! 24-Bit. Thanks for the help.
[06:28] <tamale> sethk:  There is tons and tons of messages about it in the x log
[06:28] <farous> Sivik: i use my wireless for streaming from my server. the open source was just too slow
[06:28] <sethk> tamale, that's probably true, but it doesn't mean that it is causing a lockup
[06:28] <orbin> Guitarhero11: i made ubotu send you pm to avoid a flood :P
[06:28] <sethk> tamale, what's the last thing you see in the X log?
[06:29] <Sivik> farous, but i would like to be able to use it when i'm in class at school, no matter how slow it is
[06:29] <DanaG> Oh, wait, who was asking about sound?
[06:29] <DanaG> Go to alsa-project.org
[06:29] <DanaG> look at their sound card list.
[06:29] <tamale> sethk: This is the last entry in the x error file:  (update-notifier:4924): WARNING **: hal_initialize failed: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[06:29] <Guitarhero11> i downloaded a font, where do i put it?
[06:29] <sethk> tamale, that's not sound.
[06:29] <orbin> Guitarhero11: read that wiki page...
[06:30] <ubuNICK> How do I get flash streaming on an amd64 system running Dapper Drake? I can't view video on sites such as Google Video and I want to.
[06:30] <tamale> sethK:  I thought this was though, am I right?
[06:30] <tamale> ALSA lib pcm.c:2102:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[06:30] <tamale> libhal.c 3057 : Error unsubscribing to signals, error=tQ
[06:30] <Sivik> ubuNICK, your screwed, flash is a beast in the 64 bit os
[06:30] <sethk> tamale, yes, snd_  is sound
[06:31] <tamale> sethk those lines were right above the last one i sent you
[06:31] <ubuNICK> Will it be fixed?
[06:31] <Guitarhero11> u cant just drag it into a folder?
[06:31] <sethk> tamale, if you do ls -l /var/run/dbus, do you have the socket file system_bus_socket?
[06:31] <OtavioRibeiro> ubuNICK: one day maybe! rs.
[06:31] <tamale> yes
[06:31] <userundefine> ubuNICK, not until Adobe gets their act together and supports 64bit.
[06:31] <sethk> tamale, srwxrwxrwx?
[06:31] <mon9oose> well, 2x failed as well ... and since i didn't grab the md5 from the mirror ... time to get a new copy. Are torrents more bit reliable than a browser download?
[06:31] <tamale> sethk: Yes
[06:32] <ubuNICK> So what will I need to do to view videos and stuff on places like Google Video?
[06:32] <Sivik> ubuNICK, probably
[06:32] <orbin> Guitarhero11: yes, follow the instructions
[06:32] <sethk> tamale, owned by root, group root?
[06:32] <Sivik> ubuNICK, try installing a 32 bit
[06:32] <Tsukino> Torrents have checking in the packets
[06:32] <Sivik> ubuNICK, thats what i have to do on both computers until all the apps work in the 64 bit system
[06:32] <tamale> sethk:  YEs
[06:32] <Tsukino> However large the packets are in a torrent, it hash checks each piece as they finish
[06:32] <ubuNICK> Alright Sivik, thanks.
[06:32] <DanaG> Is it possible to Wine uTorrent and run upload-only from a read-only partition?
[06:32] <OtavioRibeiro> ubuNICK: or you can run a mozilla 32 bits with the 32bit version and then install the flash plugin!
[06:32] <sethk> tamale, ok, let me check my log on the box without sound...
[06:33] <Sivik> ubuNICK, yw
[06:33] <Tsukino> You can run hash checks on completed torrents as well
[06:33] <ubuNICK> Oh, sounds like a plan indeed.
[06:33] <mon9oose> Tsukino: so, yes.
[06:33] <Tsukino> But 99.9% of the time, if a torrent finishes, the hash was fine
[06:33] <OtavioRibeiro> ubuNICK: or you can run the mozilla with wine.. and use the windows native plugin!
[06:33] <ushineko> dchroot ftw
[06:33] <Tsukino> If any part is bad when it's downloaded, the hash will fail and it'll discard that piece and try again
[06:33] <Sivik> OtavioRibeiro, excepts its rather difficult to get wine to workon the 64 bit system
[06:33] <ubuNICK> I'm staying as far away from windows as possible. ;)
[06:34] <Sivik> ubuNICK, just cause you use wine, doesn't mean windows by any means
[06:34] <OtavioRibeiro> Sivik: http://www.winehq.org/?issue=317#Wine%20on%2064-bit%20AMD%20/%20Ubuntu
[06:34] <sethk> tamale, looks like the "failed to open" error message is somewhat misleading.  What version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:34] <Sivik> OtavioRibeiro, then they finally fixed it
[06:35] <tamale> sethk:  Dapper 6.06
[06:35] <AllenA> i just installed my graphics card driver (pci tnt2 modle 64) usin the nvidia-glx-legacy driver and now my max resolution is 1024x768... is there a line in my xorg.conf i could add another res to aloow me to use a higher res?
[06:35] <OtavioRibeiro> Sivik: I don't know... i've just read it...
[06:35] <Sivik> OtavioRibeiro, ok
[06:35] <tamale> sethk:  Linux dubuntu 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:35] <sethk> tamale, I'm one version behind you.  I always wait a couple of months before loading up a new version
[06:35] <Sivik> AllenA, run glxgears -printfps and inform us of what you get
[06:36] <Sivik> AllenA, there is a way to add the line in the xorg.conf
[06:36] <tamale> sethk:  I couldn't get breezy to install at all on this machine.. didn't have the agp support  :)
[06:36] <steve_Laptop> hello all
[06:36] <Guitarhero11> thanks guys got it working
[06:36] <sethk> tamale, that's odd.  what mobo?  what video card?
[06:37] <Sivik> tamale, no agp support in breezy
[06:37] <tamale> sethk:  It was a very strange problem
[06:37] <AllenA> 1301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 258.290 FPS was the highest
[06:37] <tamale> sethk:  People in here tried to help me for the better part of a month
[06:37] <AllenA> 991 frames in 5.0 seconds = 198.108 FPS
[06:37] <AllenA>  was the lowest
[06:37] <tamale> sethk:  Dapper installed form the live cd without a SINGLE hitch
[06:38] <sethk> Sivik, what do you mean by that?  there is certainly agp support
[06:38] <Sivik> sethk, it was a question
[06:38] <sethk> tamale, well, except that apparently it won't run
[06:38] <Sivik> tamale> sethk:  I couldn't get breezy to install at all on this machine.. didn't have the agp support
[06:38] <sethk> Sivik, possibly he meant support for a particular agp chipset?
[06:38] <tamale> sethk:  It ran fine on the first machine, this is a new machine the hard drive is in now
[06:39] <Sivik> sethk: maybe
[06:39] <tamale> sethk:  Same kind of machine in every way, just no sound card.
[06:39] <tamale> it had to do with the gart driver
[06:39] <sethk> tamale, it would be interesting to put the sound card into it.  I'm not sure what I would predict
[06:39] <tamale> i might just have to end up doing that.
[06:39] <tamale> problem is it's in a datacenter
[06:39] <tamale> so i can't exactly get to it easily
[06:39] <ubuNICK> Sivik, what do you think I should do? Run wine or use the 32 bit version?
[06:40] <Sivik> ubuNICK, install a 32-bit ubuntu
[06:40] <Sivik> ubuNICK, thats what i'm doing until the 64 bit stuff works
[06:40] <tamale> 32 bit is plenty fast anyway  :)
[06:40] <ubuNICK> Does it run videos and stuff just as well?
[06:40] <TheGame> 64bit is overhyped
[06:41] <dr_willis> at this time - 64bit benifits are sort of minimal. sadly.
[06:41] <steve_Laptop> ? now that I have the web/mail server up how or what do I need to do to get postfix or the mail clint to get my mail?
[06:41] <steve_Laptop> damn newbies
[06:41] <tamale> sethk:  So any other ideas?  What exactly makes x look for a sound card anyway?  xorg.conf?
[06:41] <steve_Laptop> :)
[06:41] <Sivik> farous, even with the ndiswrapper, it still says it can't scan for any networks
[06:41] <mon9oose> ha, the torrent client (azureus) picked up the iso i had and started checking ... nice way to salvage a download.
[06:42] <Sivik> and it never says that wlan0 is present when i use the ndiswrapper, it always appears as eth1
[06:42] <farous> Sivik: what card do you have
[06:42] <Madpilot> mon9oose, most bittorrent clients can restart downloads like that
[06:42] <Sivik> bcm 4318
[06:42] <farous> Sivik: and all depends on the driver you install
[06:42] <mon9oose> this was reastaring a download that was started from firefox.
[06:42] <farous> Sivik: did you download the driver from the website
[06:43] <Sivik> farous: i installed the bcmwl5.inf
[06:43] <farous> Sivik: there are many of them floating around
[06:43] <Sivik> or am i now having issues cause there is the bcm firmware in the /lib/firmware folder as well as the ndiswrapper stuff?
[06:43] <Madpilot> mon9oose, not a torrent? OK, that's a more interesting trick
[06:43] <mon9oose> it saved 400mb of downloading.
[06:43] <farous> Sivik: so you have the wlan0 device right
[06:43] <mon9oose> (again)
[06:44] <Sivik> let me see if i can find it anywhere
[06:44] <farous> Sivik: i have the firmware here no prob
[06:44] <TheGame> how can i change the gnome panel to be less than 23 pixels
[06:44] <Sivik> farous, i don't have a wlan0 device
[06:44] <AllenA> sivik: i let it run for a little then averaged it to about 266 fps
[06:44] <farous> Sivik: let me see the correct device name
[06:44] <Sivik> AllenA, then you don't have the drivers installed  correctly, i have a friend with a tnt 2 and it runs just over 1k fps when the drivers are installed correctly
[06:44] <farous> Sivik: lsmod |grep ndiswrapper
[06:45] <Sivik> forfarndiswrapper 177364 0
[06:46] <Sivik> farous, ndiswrapper 177364 0, and usbcore               130692  5 ndiswrapper,usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[06:46] <farous> Sivik: and what does iwconfig say
[06:46] <mon9oose> Madpilot: unexpected windfall, to say the least.
[06:46] <DanaG> WTF is Internet Time?
[06:46] <Sivik> farous, eth1
[06:46] <AllenA> sivik: cool, good to know
[06:46] <farous> Sivik: so your dev is eth1
[06:46] <AllenA> ill work on it tomarrow
[06:46] <Dvoraks_Nemesis> isn't internet time just the clock syncked to the interweb?
[06:46] <farous> Sivik: iwlist eth1 scan
[06:46] <Madpilot> DanaG, from what I've read, a semi-serious idea that never caught on
[06:46] <bimberi> TheGame: choose a smaller Application font size (system -> prefs -> font)
[06:46] <AllenA> thanks yall, im out
[06:46] <Sivik> farous: no scan results
[06:47] <farous> Sivik: you know there are wireless broadcasting near you right
[06:47] <Gumby> Sivik & farous not all cards have the option of scanning
[06:47] <Gumby> especially with ndiswrapper
[06:47] <JamesM> yeah
[06:47] <OtavioRibeiro> Sivik: so.. that link really works!
[06:47] <TheGame> bimberi: will that effect firefox
[06:47] <farous> Gumby: but it would say scanning not supported right
[06:47] <OtavioRibeiro> Sivik: i'm compiling wine here!
[06:47] <Gumby> farous: it should yes
[06:48] <JamesM>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY shomen
[06:48] <JamesM> oh, crap
[06:48] <Gumby> lol
[06:48] <TheGame> what is the name of the font that apple uses on osx
[06:48] <bimberi> TheGame: possibly, but you can always use <CTRL>+ and <CTRL>- in firefox to change its own fontsize
[06:48] <JamesM> Gumby: Thanks
[06:48] <Gumby> lol
[06:48] <Sivik> god, i was tired of kde
[06:49] <Sivik> this is so much smoother
[06:49] <Sivik> farous, still no scan resluts
[06:49] <Sivik> results*
[06:49] <steve_Laptop> ? now that I have the web/mail server up how or what do I need to do to get postfix or the mail clint to get my mail?
[06:49] <Gumby> Sivik: does it mention anything about not supporting scanning for et1?
[06:49] <Gumby> eth1
[06:49] <sethk> steve_Laptop, hmm?  postfix is a mail server, so your question didn't make sense
[06:50] <Sivik> Gumby, no
[06:50] <Gumby> steve_Laptop: to run a mail server you need smtp and pop3 support. or at least those are the most common protocols
[06:50] <sethk> steve_Laptop, once you have a mail server set up, you just tell your client the ip of the mail server.  If it's the same box, it is localhost
[06:50] <steve_Laptop> sethk, thats because I dont no what the fell Im talking about
[06:50] <JamesM> why doesn't anyone use evolution for mail?
[06:50] <steve_Laptop> how do I get mail now
[06:50] <sethk> JamesM, I found it to be buggy
[06:50] <Sivik> Gumby, i have used the bcm before and havent' had a problem, but it hasn't been working lately, since i have upgraded
[06:50] <steve_Laptop> or send mail
[06:50] <derekS> in gnome terminal, i have it set to use the "system terminal font"...how do i figure out what that is
[06:51] <Gumby> Sivik: which bcm card?  lspci |grep -i broadcom
[06:51] <farous> Sivik: what does ndiswrapper -l say
[06:51] <scrappy_> JamesM: whats wrong with mutt?
[06:51] <JamesM> scrappy_:nothing, I just like evolution
[06:51] <Sivik> farous: i have already told you, it just says ndiswrapper    177364    0
[06:52] <cristophine> Hi all. I'm trying to setup a print server between two ubuntu machines. Unfortunately, the client cannot connect to the server. Is there a simple way to do this?
[06:52] <TheGame> any1 know the standard osx font name
[06:52] <naa_> Lucida Grande, Thegame
[06:52] <Gumby> Sivik: that was the output to a totally different command than what farous asked you
[06:52] <Alynna> ok am I to believe that ubuntu gets linux-kernel-2.6.15-26-686 but there is no linux-restricted-modules for it?
[06:52] <JamesM> Sivik:  have you tried intalling the bcm34xx stuff?
[06:52] <cristophine> I've tried the instructions listed on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_print_on_remote_Ubuntu_machine_from_another_Ubuntu_machine
[06:52] <farous> Sivik: ndiswrapper -l should tell you driver present, hardware present if it work properly
[06:52] <TheGame> so how do you install it in ubuntu naa_
[06:52] <Sivik> Gumby: 0000:05:02.0 network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g wireless LAN Controller
[06:52] <naa_> no idea, I just started with ubuntu
[06:53] <Sivik> JamesM, thats what i have been trying
[06:53] <naa_> I'm trying to figure out how to work ndiswrapper
[06:53] <Sivik> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[06:53] <farous> Sivik: airforce will simply not work as posted on the forum i sent you
[06:53] <JamesM> Sivik: You're on x86, right?
[06:53] <steve_Laptop> Gumby, so being I like to use IMAP I need to set up smtp and IMAP is this correct and were can I find the howtos for that? thank you
[06:53] <Sivik> JamesM, yes, dapper 32-bit
[06:53] <Gumby> Sivik: I have that exact card and got it working without ndiswrapper.  I also got it working with ndiswrapper however I had to compile ndiswrapper from source.  it didnt like my driver for some reason
[06:53] <Gumby> farous: I used that URL with airforce and it worked :)
[06:53] <Sivik> what driver did you use?
[06:54] <farous> Sivik: last resort just try a driver that worked for other look at this page http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[06:54] <Sivik> farous, i already used one of those drivers, the one from the acer computer
[06:54] <Gumby> Sivik: not sure which driver it was.  Its been on my home partition for about a year now
[06:54] <Gumby> heh
[06:54] <farous> Gumby: i think you are lucky :) have not used the card myself
[06:54] <mon9oose> TheGame: fonts that ship with Mac OS X, include; Hoefler Text, Didot, and Zapfino.
[06:54] <scrappy_> Alynna: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[06:54] <TheGame> is it possible to install those fonts
[06:54] <farous> Sivik: i had to try 11 for one to work
[06:54] <Sivik> Gumby: lucky, mine will finally work and then work like twice and then no longer work
[06:54] <Gumby> steve_Laptop: if you google for it you will find the answer
[06:54] <mon9oose> TheGame: http://daringfireball.net/misc/2005/04/tiger_details search AAT
[06:54] <steve_Laptop> k
[06:55] <farous> Sivik: by the way do you use wep encryption
[06:55] <Stickittotheman> can i install a 32bit xubuntu on a 64but AMD?
[06:55] <Gumby> Sivik: I havnt tested it much as far as changing locations etc yet
[06:55] <Sivik> farous, yes
[06:55] <Gumby> Stickittotheman: yes you sure can
[06:55] <farous> Sivik: turn it off and try to test first
[06:55] <Sivik> Gumby, my ap is within 3 feet of where i am
[06:55] <mon9oose> TheGame: i spose if somone gets tehm to you ...
[06:55] <JamesM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=broadcom
[06:55] <JamesM> tried this, sivok?
[06:55] <Stickittotheman> gumby: thank god, nothing is compatible with 64bit
[06:55] <Gumby> Sivik: well, mine can see and use my AP 100% of the time thus far
[06:55] <JamesM> sivik, my fault
[06:55] <Gumby> Stickittotheman: everything is compatible.
[06:55] <farous> Sivik: open-wep encryption never worked here whatever i tried
[06:55] <Sivik> farous, ok
[06:56] <Gumby> Stickittotheman: 64bit cpu's are backwards compatible with 32bit os's
[06:56] <Gumby> at least AMD64 is
[06:56] <ripple> whooosh..noob attack!! ... hey
[06:56] <scrappy_> Stickittotheman: i would install the regular ubuntu the install k7 kernel.
[06:56] <Stickittotheman> gumby: I meant no software is compatible with 64but
[06:56] <Gumby> Stickittotheman: lots is.  just not all
[06:56] <Stickittotheman> meh
[06:56] <Sivik> Gumby, yes, thats how i'm running ubuntu on both this machine and my desktop
[06:56] <Gumby> stick with 32bit OS for now though
[06:56] <dragon> hi
[06:56] <ripple> hey does anyone now how to solve the broadcom wireless issue with the BMC
[06:57] <Sivik> ripple: what kind of issue?
[06:57] <Stickittotheman> ya, im on 64bit OS right now, and its too much of a hassle so i'm downloading the 32bit ISO
[06:57] <dragon> id like some help with frost wire on 5.04
[06:57] <ripple> hmm well right now it doesn not show up in network
[06:57] <Sivik> dragon: state the issue
[06:57] <dragon> <<<<<<*nix noob
[06:57] <Sivik> ripple: try sudo ifconfig ethX (wlan0) up
[06:57] <dragon> tit says it cant find java exec in path
[06:58] <dragon> i open the icon
[06:58] <Sivik> dragon: google
[06:58] <farous> dragon: install java
[06:58] <farous> !java > dragon
[06:58] <ripple> it has been yeras away from linux so
[06:58] <dragon> i have java installed
[06:58] <ripple> ive tried almost everything on the help site already
[06:58] <farous> dragon: which java. I think it need sun java
[06:58] <Sivik> do you have the j2dk package installed
[06:59] <dragon> tryed that
[06:59] <dragon> then
[06:59] <Sivik> dragon, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[06:59] <ripple> eth0 is my lan.. eth1 was the wlan but now it is gone
[06:59] <Sivik> ripple: ok, sudo ifconfig -a
[06:59] <ripple> j2dk??
[06:59] <Sivik> ripple, ifconfig -a
[06:59] <dragon> remember im on hoary hedghog
[06:59] <ripple> gottcha
[06:59] <Sivik> draconius, so
[06:59] <dragon> not dapper
[07:00] <Sivik> dragon, why are you in an old kernel?
[07:00] <dragon> 11 sec ill try wot siv said
[07:00] <farous> dragon: sudo update-alterrnatives --config java. see which java you want running and select it
[07:00] <farous> dragon: update-alternatives
[07:00] <ripple> eth0 & lo & sit
[07:00] <Sivik> ripple, are you using ndiswrapper or the bcm drivers?
[07:01] <mon9oose> I'll assume that if the torrented version of the iso fails, i have deeper issues ... thanks all.
[07:01] <Sivik> ripple: if your using the bcm drivers, do you have the firmware extracted in the /lib/firmware folder?
[07:01] <ripple> tried both .. not sure how to tell which one im using now.. tied both several times
[07:01] <ripple> yes have the firmware .o file extracted there.. only there though
[07:01] <farous> ripple: lsmod |grep bcm43xx
[07:01] <Sivik> farous, good idea
[07:01] <farous> ripple: or lsmod |grep ndiswrapper
[07:02] <Sivik> farous, is there an issue if its trying to use both the ndiswrapper and the bcm mods?
[07:02] <dragon> ok siv
[07:02] <ripple> farous:: lsmod.. no output but it ran
[07:02] <farous> Sivik: will not work
[07:02] <Sivik> farous, so how do you turn on of them off?