[04:27] <Dr_willis> thierry,  if you are using a mouse and a touchpad.. and disable the touchpad.. then you will have the mouse.
[04:27] <klerfayt> Sakireth: give me an example of application you are trying to compile
[04:28] <thierry> @dr_willis -> ok :)
[04:28] <thierry> dr_willis, i only use touchpad
[04:29] <kristyon> anyone using an easy video editor?
[04:29] <thierry> no other mouse
[04:29] <tk> ugh, are there any graphical FTP clients that dont crash as soon as you give them something to do?
[04:29] <Sakireth> klerfayt: codeine
[04:29] <thierry> @tk -> gftp
[04:30] <Jucato> harmental: during the development of Kubuntu, there comes a time when no new features/versions of apps/packages are accepted. This is done in order to preserve the stability of the release. Sometimes, I think this period in development is what they call "Feature Freeze". So apps that released new versions during/after Kubuntu's feature freeze don't get included anymore
[04:30] <tk> thierry: just did... it crashed on download and on deleting a local directory...
[04:30] <Jucato> tk: have you tried Konqueror?
[04:30] <Dr_willis> thierry,  you are describing exactly the 'accidently tapping the touchpad' problem ive seen befor.
[04:30] <tk> no, I was going for ftp specific
[04:30] <thierry> @tk -> maybe kbear
[04:30] <Jucato> oh...
[04:31] <Jucato> tk:  well, try it out. it might not crash... who knows :-D it's still ftp...
[04:31] <excitatory> is there any way to easily output the versions of everything build-essential installed?
[04:31] <thierry> dr_willis, you mean it's me who is clicking on my left button ?
[04:32] <Dr_willis> thierry,  yes.. some touchpads can be very very senestive.. and have a 'tap to click feature'
[04:32] <tk> thierry: pressure on the case of the laptop near the touchpad can sometimes trigger their sensors in odd ways
[04:32] <J4t> KFTPGrapper?
[04:32] <J4t> grabber, even
[04:32] <tk> J4t: tried it first :P
[04:32] <J4t> :)
[04:32] <J4t> ok, then
[04:32] <Dr_willis> I do it all the time while using the laptop keyboard.. plug in an external keyboard and seeif it still happens.
[04:33] <thierry> @dr_willis & tk : but it's doesn't happen with fedora i've used for 2 year...
[04:33] <thierry> why just now ?
[04:34] <tk> thierry: mine doesnt do it in windows but it does in linux... :P
[04:34] <Dr_willis> thierry,  no clue. i dont have exp.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> highly possible they are using a different touchpad driver.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> or they got the clicking/tap feature disabled by default.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> compare your fedora xorg.conf vs the kubuntu one.
[04:35] <harmental> jucato: ok....so i guess my question is when will edgy become stable?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> harmental,  about 6 mo after its released. :P
[04:35] <thierry> ok, try to fix it like that
[04:35] <Dr_willis> !info ksynaptic
[04:35] <ubotu> Package ksynaptic does not exist in dapper
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[04:36] <Dr_willis> !synaptic
[04:36] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:36] <Dr_willis> that aint it.. whats the name of that program for the touchpad..
[04:36] <tk> kbear crashed too
[04:36] <tk> ugh
[04:36] <Jucato> harmental: err.. Edgy Eft will be released in October, but take note. Edgy will really be edgy, meaning cutting edge, and probably not as stable as Dapper...
[04:37] <tk> gets its back to command line for me... or windows for ftping mass sites
[04:37] <tk> guesss
[04:37] <Jucato> harmental: in the past, the backports repository was the place to look for newer versions of some packages that some developers/maintainers decided to upgrade, but not include in the main repositories (for system stability and integrity). However, according to Kubuntu devs, Backports has been non-functional for quite some time now.
[04:37] <thierry> @tk -> what are the errors messages ?
[04:38] <tk> just Sigsev
[04:38] <tk> i dont have gdb installed to backtrace it at the moment
[04:38] <harmental> Jucato: so..what you mean is that the next release of kubuntu wont be as stable as dapper???
[04:39] <Dr_willis> edgy is to be real cutting edge. :P
[04:39] <niels> lo everybody
[04:39] <Jucato> well, probably not. but it will be stable. but not as stable as Dapper. Remember that Dapper was made to last, supported for 5 years. Something like Debian Sarge...
[04:39] <thierry> @tk -> have you launch it from command line ?
[04:39] <niels> can someone help me how to edit your sources file?
[04:39] <Gh0st75> lots of changes in store with edgy?
[04:39] <Dr_willis> aparently :P
[04:39] <Gh0st75> cool
[04:39] <Jucato> niels: just right-click on /etc/apt/sources.list and choose Actions >Edit as Root
[04:40] <tk> thierry: typically I would but I figured this was just an isolated problem... reinstalled base FTP files, if that dont work, ill do cmd line
[04:40] <deb> Anyone know how to play 3gp format in Linux . what plugin I need ?
[04:40] <thierry> @tk -> i mean with command line you'll have all the error messages
[04:41] <thierry> or by looking at the log system
[04:41] <tk> i know, i typically do that, its how i got Amarok working
[04:41] <klerfayt> Sakireth: good news; codeine is in repos
[04:41] <tk> well amarok + MySQL
[04:41] <mae> codeine?
[04:41] <kristyon> anyone using video editing?
[04:41] <mae> isn't mysql a bit overkill for amarok?
[04:41] <kristyon> what is the edgy repo?
[04:41] <klerfayt> Sakireth: enable universe
[04:42] <kristyon> I mean where
[04:42] <thierry> @tk -> ok
[04:42] <kristyon> mae, not if you have 10000 files
[04:42] <kristyon> can use sql lite
[04:42] <mae> kristyon: sqlite will work just as good
[04:42] <mae> theres no concurrency
[04:43] <mae> in fact sqlite will most likely be faster
[04:43] <maarten> Hello everyone
[04:43] <Jucato> anyone here has any experience in changing USplash to Splashy?
[04:43] <niels> jucato, i tried several times but it doesn't work
[04:43] <niels> it doesn't open:(
[04:44] <niels> can you send me your file?
[04:44] <niels> then I just have to paste it in my map
[04:44] <Jucato> niels: then from Konsole, type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:44] <niels> thx jucato
[04:44] <lters> trying to get X to let a remote x session in...
[04:45] <lters> I edited the xserver and remove the nolisten tcp...
[04:45] <kristyon> video editing? any success stories?
[04:45] <Jucato> niels: if you need a clean sources.list, you might want to check this out: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources.php
[04:47] <niels> jucato, they say that /etc/apt/sources.list exists but isn't a map
[04:48] <jott> kristyon: check out www.jahshaka.org looks quite promising
[04:49] <Jucato> niels:  er.. my bad. I thought you were talking about editing your sources.list. what "sources" were you referring to?
[04:49] <kristyon> aha, I forgot about that, thanks jott
[04:49] <niels> jes jes
[04:49] <niels> it is sources.list
[04:50] <Jucato> um... it's telling you that it isn't a map?
[04:50] <niels> jes
[04:50] <Jucato> niels: ok, just do this, in Konsole, type in "kdesu kate"
[04:50] <niels> and when I go check that I c an empty map named sources.list(sl) and a document sl and a document sl_backup
[04:50] <niels> have to wait 1m25s
[04:51] <niels> he's upgradign
[04:51] <Jucato> once Kate (in super-user mode) is launched, just open /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:51] <niels> k i'll do that in a min
[04:51] <niels> and another problem jucato, i did all those thing some hours ago and when I rebooted it failed :(
[04:51] <J4t> just open another terminal :)
[04:51] <Jucato> what do you mean by "failed"?
[04:52] <niels> eum you know the screen Load .. [ok]
[04:52] <niels> those things?
[04:52] <Jucato> hmm...
[04:53] <niels> i think the fault is that it isn't all updated
[04:53] <niels> now there appears(after upgrading) that i have to try update or --fix missing cos some archives couldn't be get
[04:54] <Jucato> ... @_@
[04:54] <Jucato> I'm getting dizzy...
[04:54] <niels> do u know what i mean?
[04:54] <Jucato> try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?
[04:56] <niels> then just another line shows with again niels@niels-destkop:~$
[04:59] <hub> Riddell: I did rebuild Kopete without xmms using the source package and it does not longer depend on xmms
[05:01] <niels> jucato, what's the commadn 4 editing that x?(something with x11?)
[05:01] <Jucato> niels: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf ??
[05:02] <niels> xorg.conf is empty with me?:(
[05:02] <Jucato> err...
[05:02] <Jucato> close that (without saving)
[05:03] <Jucato> then try, kdesu kate, then from Kate, open up xorg.conf by going to /etc/X11
[05:03] <niels> when i give in kdesu kate
[05:03] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:03] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:03] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:03] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:03] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:03] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:03] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:03] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:03] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:03] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:03] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:03] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:03] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:03] <Jucato> niels: when you want to post multiple lines, use pastebin
[05:03] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:04] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:04] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:04] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:04] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:04] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:04] <Jucato> erm.. you can stop now
[05:04] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:04] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:04] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:04] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:04] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:04] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:04] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:04] <trappist> sigh.
[05:04] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:04] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:04] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:04] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:04] <Jucato> !pastebin > niels
[05:04] <niels> kbuildsycoca running...
[05:04] <niels> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[05:04] <niels> sry about the spamming
[05:04] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:04] <niels> how do you do that?
[05:04] <niels> how do you pastebin?
[05:04] <trappist> niels: don't.  do.  that.
[05:04] <tk> looks like reinstalling ftp fixed my problem
[05:04] <Jucato> !pastebin
[05:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:04] <Jucato> go to that site
[05:05] <Jucato> niels: does kdesu kate still open, even with those error messages?
[05:05] <niels> jes
[05:05] <niels> but it's empty
[05:05] <Jucato> niels: then there's no problem. do the 2nd one I said
[05:05] <Jucato> kdesu kate
[05:05] <Jucato> then just open up xorg.conf manually
[05:07] <niels> k i opened it manually
[05:07] <Jucato> ok there you have it
[05:07] <niels> ty
[05:07] <kristyon> what package is qmake in?
[05:08] <trappist> kristyon: sudo apt-get install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search qmake
[05:09] <trappist> kristyon: qt3-dev-tools
[05:09] <kristyon> thankyou trappist
[05:09] <eric__> hi
[05:09] <trappist> kristyon: but do the above anyway - it comes in handy for answering those questions
[05:09] <kristyon> yes, i was wondering what they called
[05:10] <kristyon> new to apt. better than yast for packages
[05:10] <trappist> kristyon: yeah, finding out what package provided what file was the last thing I missed about rpm-based systems, where it's usually built in, but apt-file fills in the blank
[05:11] <trappist> I guess I'd sorta like to have it builtin, but not at the expense off all the unnecessary package metadata overhead you get with rpm systems
[05:12] <trappist> s/off/of/
[05:13] <bebop> ..
[05:13] <niels> does somebody know how to open (in konsole) a sort of 'tutorial' where you have to answer all kinds of question such as type of keyboard, videocard...
[05:14] <niels> something with x11
[05:16] <trappist> niels: for video card, sudo dpkg-reconfiger xserver-xorg
[05:16] <kristyon> yast was good a a general tool, wonder if I could compile for kubuntu
[05:16] <trappist> err dpkg-reconfigure
[05:17] <trappist> niels: come to think of it, that should ask you about your keyboard as well
[05:19] <insanekane> kristyon: there is an ongoing effort yast4debian
[05:19] <kristyon> where?
[05:20] <insanekane> kristyon: google for it
[05:20] <kristyon> yeah i was hoping to be lazy :-))
[05:20] <Jucato> cool. I tried out openSUSE 10.1 with KDE 3.5.4 on vmware, and I liked the concept of YaST
[05:21] <kristyon> is very good, been using suse since 6.2 but dont like suse now novell has messed with it. yast too slow for packages and repos aren't very good. getting dvd css on suse 10.1 is hard
[05:24] <trappist> kristyon: it's a bit of a pita on ubuntu still, too
[05:25] <kristyon> automatix did it for me, damn site easier than suse!
[05:25] <kristyon> should be part of main install!
[05:25] <Jucato> kristyon: then so should EasyUbuntu... I think they're just trying to play fair by not including both...
[05:26] <Jucato> I'm just presuming...
[05:26] <Healot> !!automatix
[05:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about !automatix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:26] <kristyon> easybuntu was harder to install somehow, automatix was the one that installed it for me first
[05:26] <Healot> !automatix
[05:26] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:27] <Jucato> some swear by Automatix, some by EasyUbuntu, and some by apt-get... :-D
[05:27] <trappist> kristyon: I just say sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:27] <kristyon> oh. bugger
[05:27] <kristyon> didn't know about that one
[05:30] <tk> hah, wget works nicely for what I needed :D
[05:30] <tk> didnt know it would do recursing
[05:30] <tk> its a handy lil tool
[05:31] <wind> ok Dr_willis, what do i need to get
[05:31] <wind> and can i get them with apt-get
[05:31] <wind> i need video codecs (or whatever they are called) to play commercial dvds, i want to rip dvds and cds
[05:32] <wind> and uh... firefox and it's all sorts of functionality
[05:32] <tk> xine should work for that... i believe
[05:32] <tk> firefox is mozilla-firefox
[05:32] <wind> i don't want to download things like easyubuntu or automatix
[05:32] <wind> i want to download them one at a time
[05:32] <wind> i'm trying to learn :O
[05:32] <tk> you dont want to use adept? you mean?
[05:32] <kristyon> sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:32] <trappist> wind: sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:33] <trappist> what kristyon said.
[05:33] <wind> that's it?
[05:33] <kristyon> thats just to play encrypted dvds
[05:33] <kristyon> and xine would help
[05:33] <trappist> that's what you need to be able to decrypt commercial dvds.  if you want to rip, you also need ripping software
[05:33] <kristyon> grip
[05:34] <kristyon> or ripit
[05:34] <trappist> grip does videos?
[05:34] <kristyon> no
[05:34] <kristyon> k3b does
[05:34] <trappist> I just use it to make oggs
[05:34] <trappist> but does k3b compress?
[05:34] <kristyon> only the new beta version of k3b does
[05:34] <archdrone> is there a real difference in speed between kubuntu 6.06 amd64 and for i386 on my amd64?
[05:34] <trappist> ossum
[05:34] <kristyon> expect it real soon
[05:34] <kristyon> will compress to mpeg4
[05:34] <trappist> archdrone: yes
[05:35] <archdrone> trappist: thx
[05:35] <trappist> archdrone: but there's a price - there's some 32bit only stuff (like flash and java plugins, w32codecs etc.) that you'll need a 32bit chroot for
[05:35] <kristyon> if you wanna compile it wind then goto www.k3b.org
[05:36] <wind> hm
[05:36] <tk> archdrone: i've used both and notice little difference on my AMD64
[05:37] <tk> but I dont do any heavy compiling or anything I guess
[05:37] <archdrone> trappist: thx for info so i ll google sth about 32bit chroot
[05:37] <trappist> I notice quite a big difference
[05:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone
[05:37] <trappist> archdrone: google specifically for debian 32bit chroot - there's a great howto somewhere
[05:37] <tk> still havent gotten into GIMP yet as I still have a windows drive with photoshop that I know how ot use :)
[05:37] <archdrone> tk: me neither so its no use for me i guess
[05:38] <MilhousePunkRock> tk: There is GIMP for Windows too...
[05:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what do i have to do to extract  a *.gz file?
[05:38] <tk> MilhousePunkRock: you know now that you say that I recall seeing that on the Kubuntu CD i think...
[05:38] <trappist> archdrone: I notice that apps start up a lot faster, and cpu-intensive stuff (like thumbnailing for image viewers) is a lot faster
[05:38] <kristyon> why does everyone rave about photoshop? how many ppl actually know how to use it !!!
[05:38] <djclue917> Tallia1Kubuntu: use Ark.
[05:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> djclue917: need command line
[05:38] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: if it's a .gz, gunzip.  if it's a .tar.gz, tar zxf filename.tar.gz
[05:38] <djclue917> oh ok.
[05:38] <kristyon> gzip
[05:39] <MilhousePunkRock> if you know how to use P$, you know how to use Gimp as well...
[05:39] <kristyon> gzip -xfgz filename
[05:39] <trappist> MilhousePunkRock: the interfaces are very different
[05:39] <kristyon> or gzip --help
[05:39] <archdrone> trappist: i ll try
[05:39] <trappist> or gunzip
[05:39] <trappist> or even zcat file.gz > newfile
[05:40] <MilhousePunkRock> trappist: Only at the first few looks I assume, since Gimp appears to be a little weird with all those windows... But the functions are the same
[05:41] <jott> MilhousePunkRock: like cmyk support? ;)
[05:41] <kristyon> who actually needs it?
[05:41] <kristyon> printers
[05:42] <kristyon> whats the k mean in cmyk?
[05:42] <hw> viva las vegas ;}
[05:42] <Healot> blac(K)
[05:42] <jott> key
[05:42] <trappist> I'm not a big gimp guy, but I'm 92% sure it supports cmyk
[05:43] <djclue917> trappist: no it doesn't
[05:43] <jott> trappist: then go for 8%
[05:43] <trappist> gotcha :)
[05:43] <trappist> well only weirdos use it anyway.  so there.
[05:43] <jott> use krita it has cmyk support and photoshop like ui (although still alot of bugs :( )
[05:43] <djclue917> trappist: but there's a plugin i believe..
[05:43] <wind> what is a good photo editing software?
[05:43] <djclue917> http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/separate.shtml
[05:44] <wind> its like photoshop
[05:44] <wind> i forgot the name
[05:44] <trappist> wind: gimp.
[05:44] <jott> wind: krita
[05:44] <wind> k
[05:44] <djclue917> jott: krita is pretty much very young and still lacks most of the features in the GIMP. it shows great potential though...
[05:44] <jott> hehe "A plugin providing rudimentary CMYK support for The GIMP"
[05:45] <jott> djclue917: depends on what features you actually need...
[05:45] <trappist> now if only somebody would write a killer image viewing program.  one that thumbnails quickly, has lotsa nice management features and doesn't leak like a sieve (or like gimv)
[05:45] <jott> but yes its not really mature
[05:45] <kristyon> you tried gimp 2.2 ? it appears to have cmyk support
[05:45] <jott> trappist: digikam ;)
[05:46] <djclue917> jott: well yeah, but as far as photo editing is concerned, GIMP is still far more superior than Krita.
[05:46] <trappist> jott: I wasn't looking for one that supports cameras, but if it's good generically I'll check it out
[05:46] <trappist> jott: I use gimv, but it leaks so badly I have to restart X after I use it for a while
[05:46] <trappist> pornview looks promising but it crashes constantly
[05:47] <djclue917> trappist: hmm.. that's odd. I've never experienced that before with GIMP...
[05:47] <jott> trappist: digikam is quite good for managing/sorting/tagging images
[05:47] <trappist> djclue917: gimv, not gimp :)
[05:47] <trappist> jott: I'll take a look then, thanks
[05:47] <djclue917> ah ok.
[05:48] <djclue917> trappist: sorry.. :D i thought that was a type or something. haha
[05:48] <kristyon> fspot
[05:48] <jott> trappist: plus it has some basic image filters like red eye removal..
[05:48] <trappist> djclue917: you mean a typo? ;)
[05:48] <djclue917> oh yeah. that's a typo. typo. haha
[05:48] <trappist> jott: nice - how about auto-rename, if I try to put a bunch of files in the same directory that have the same filename?
[05:49] <djclue917> jott: what's that software again? :)
[05:49] <jott> djclue917: digikam?
[05:49] <trappist> or comparing the two files if they have the same name, to see if they're duplicate files
[05:49] <djclue917> jott: oh.. i
[05:49] <jott> trappist: uhm not sure about this..
[05:49] <djclue917> jott: oh.. i've never used digikam before..
[05:49] <trappist> jott: well I'm installing now, so I'll know soon enough :)
[05:49] <jott> trappist: you could go for krename then ;)
[05:50] <trappist> jott: nah, I need it built into my image viewer.  I use rename for other mass-renaming purposes.
[05:50] <trappist> the perl goodness.
[05:51] <jott> trappist: actually digikam supports image comparison by content ;)
[05:51] <jott> trappist: to check for duplicate files
[05:51] <trappist> ooh, yeah I just found that
[05:51] <trappist> gimv has it too
[05:51] <jott> but gimv has this evil g in its name ;)
[05:52] <trappist> I'm specifically looking for, I'm dragging a file into a directory, there's a file there already with that name.  I want to see both files and have an option to auto-rename.
[05:52] <trappist> jott: yeah, that g kinda sucks
[05:53] <trappist> ooh tools -> batch processing -> rename images
[05:53] <trappist> that's nice too
[05:53] <jott> trappist: it should do so
[05:53] <jott> trappist: (this drag and drop thingie)
[05:53] <trappist> now if only I could easily browse to any image-containing directory :/
[05:54] <jott> :p
[05:54] <trappist> it's got kind of an album browser, not a filesystem browser
[05:54] <jott> the album browser is actually a filesystem browser
[05:54] <trappist> but it's pretty sweet.  might be worth conquering the little annoyances.
[05:54] <jott> (so when you move something its moved in the filesystem)
[05:54] <trappist> jott: but how do I browse 'up' from the cwd?
[05:55] <jott> so you need to set the parent dir for your albums :p
[05:55] <trappist> yeah, I don't care for that so much
[05:56] <jott> or symlink them to a common place.. don't know if there is a better way for digikam in handling this
[05:56] <jott> its actually really ment for managing your whole collection
[05:56] <trappist> yeah its purpose is slightly different than the purpose I'm looking for, but it still might be close enough
[05:56] <trappist> it's worth spending a little time to find out
[05:56] <jott> make sure you also have those plugins installed..
[05:57] <trappist> oh?
[05:57] <trappist> oh, found em
[05:57] <jott> kipi-plugins also don't know if digikamimageplugins suggests that..
[05:57] <jott> so you get the "full potential"
[05:58] <kevin> Hola compaeros
[05:58] <kevin> :P
[05:58] <trappist> jott: it wasn't in recommends, but apt-cache search came up with it
[05:59] <jott> trappist: at least it seems to be quite good usability wise as my girlfriend uses it to manage her pictures ;)
[05:59] <trappist> ossum
[06:00] <trappist> well I'll have to give it the real trial at home.  I don't have any massive image collections here at work to test against.
[06:00] <jott> hehe
[06:01] <jott> trappist: and version 0.9.0-beta1 is also out so you may look at the changelog before you complain ;)
[06:01] <niels> lo trappist, can u help me with my linux?
[06:02] <niels> or can somebody else help me?:)
[06:02] <jott> * more than 100 bug fixes hehe ;)
[06:02] <jott> sounds worth a try ;)
[06:03] <niels> hzeheh:)
[06:04] <niels> eum the problem is that I have a vertical black line(+-1cm ) on my screen in linux but not in windows
[06:05] <niels> any solutions jott?:)
[06:06] <trappist> niels: in the middle of the screen? left? right?
[06:06] <maltaethiron> thats an odd problem niels
[06:06] <niels> sry forgot to tell that
[06:06] <niels> on the left
[06:06] <niels> totally left
[06:06] <niels> that's a what problem maltaethiron?:)
[06:06] <jott> tft?
[06:06] <niels> jes tft
[06:06] <niels> 17"
[06:06] <niels> sry but i'm a noob@linux;)
[06:06] <trappist> niels: nvidia card?
[06:07] <wind> how do i get a pcmcia slot mounted (it's a sd memory card reader)
[06:07] <niels> jes nvidia
[06:07] <niels> geforce fx520
[06:07] <niels> *5200
[06:08] <jott> do you use the native resolution of your tft in X?
[06:08] <niels> solutions?
[06:08] <jott> on other hint would be: press the autosync/autosettings button on your tft ;)
[06:08] <jott> an
[06:08] <niels> no... but i reinstalled linux cos there was a problem with my hd
[06:09] <niels> and therefore i did something in x what set up my video card
[06:09] <trappist> NeoFax: egrep 'Driver.+nv' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:09] <niels> cos now he doesn't even recognizes my card
[06:09] <niels> do I have to type that in kons?
[06:09] <trappist> yes
[06:09] <trappist> and tell me what it says
[06:09] <trappist> if it's "nv" or "nvidia"
[06:11] <trappist> niels: my video is the wrong size unless I use the nvidia driver
[06:11] <niels> it says nothing
[06:11] <trappist> niels: well that's no good!
[06:11] <trappist> niels: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:11] <niels> do I have to type that neofax 2?
[06:11] <trappist> I don't know what neofax is
[06:11] <niels> you typed that
[06:12] <trappist> huh
[06:12] <niels> but np, that is the command i was looking 4
[06:12] <niels> that's the way i did it yesterday 2
[06:12] <niels> *yesterdag->last time
[06:12] <niels>  <trappist> NeoFax: egrep 'Driver.+nv' /etc/X11/xorg.c
[06:12] <niels> you typed that
[06:12] <trappist> niels: OH!  sorry :) no, that was supposed to look like: niels: egrep 'Driver.+nv' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:13] <niels> i thought so:)
[06:13] <niels> but np,  you helped me a lot!
[06:13] <Tarandus> Hello, I have dpkg --forced a Debian's dosemu package.  Now every time I try to install anything, it stops at the dosemu's missing dependencies, which include a Debian libc6 version.  How could I make it "accept" the forced dosemu package and go on?
[06:14] <kristyon> use dosbox instead?
[06:14] <niels> k i did everything
[06:14] <Tarandus> kristyon: Tried and it does not work
[06:14] <niels> but the problem is: last time when I wanted to load linux(the kernel was updated) i couldn't load my updated version
[06:14] <niels> how come?
[06:14] <kristyon> what you trying to use it for?
[06:14] <Tarandus> kristyon: DOS games mostly
[06:15] <trappist> Tarandus: you don't.  if you need debian's version for some reason, you need to rebuild it.  the libc6 dependency isn't a joke.
[06:15] <Tarandus> kristyon: It wastes quite much performance, whatever it does
[06:15] <kristyon> dosbox worked for me for stealth bomber f117a
[06:15] <kristyon> you need perforance for dos?
[06:15] <Tarandus> trappist: But the forced dosemu package works perfectly, whereas the Ubuntu's dosemu is broken
[06:15] <Tarandus> kristyon: Somehow dosbox just isn't fast enough
[06:16] <kristyon> seems very strange to me
[06:16] <Tarandus> What kind of machine should it approximate with cycles=3000?  A medium 486?
[06:16] <trappist> Tarandus: the ubuntu version *is* the debian version.  it's synced from debian without changes.
[06:17] <trappist> ditto for dosemu-freedos
[06:17] <Tarandus> trappist: The Ubuntu version is broken.  It has no X support compiled in.  The version in Debian testing has X support.
[06:17] <trappist> oh, debian testing.
[06:17] <Tarandus> trappist: Also, xfonts-dosemu installs 4 empty pcf.gz files
[06:17] <trappist> Tarandus: my advice would be to grab the debian source package and rebuild it
[06:18] <Tarandus> trappist: Any short and easy instructions for that?
[06:18] <kevin> hello , I speak spanis I AM Kubuntu is cool!!
[06:18] <Tarandus> First I must apt-get build-essential?
[06:19] <trappist> Tarandus: add a deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list for debian testing.  apt-get update.  apt-get source dosemu.  apt-get build-dep dosemu.  cd to the dosemu directory and debuild or dpkg-buildpackage.
[06:19] <trappist> Tarandus: yes
[06:20] <Tarandus> trappist: Thanks, I'll see how I'll manage
[06:20] <trappist> maltaethiron: please don't do that.
[06:21] <zipper_> Yey, i got linux installed, now i just need to get my wireless network up and running, sigh
[06:21] <ninHer> funny task to accomplish
[06:22] <ninHer> ;-)
[06:22] <maltaethiron> trappist: do what?
[06:22] <marvel> Can anybody help, getting PS printer error from lpr -Pprinter filename; lpr: error - unable to print file: client-error-not-found
[06:22] <maltaethiron> trappist: i clicked return from away in the File menu
[06:22] <Tarandus> Ubuntu has gnome-network-manager and I made it work in my laptop by getting rid of static IP addresses.  Is there a similar tool for KDE and Kubuntu?
[06:23] <trappist> maltaethiron: public away/back messages are a plague on irc
[06:23] <maltaethiron> trappist: sorry, didnt do it on purpose...how do i kill it?
[06:23] <trappist> maltaethiron: depends on your irc client
[06:24] <maltaethiron> trappist: using konversation
[06:24] <trappist> Tarandus: please file a bug on those empty font files.  probably a packaging issue.
[06:24] <zipper_> ninHer, i've been having trouble getting the installer to boot up all day. Changing the boot option 'noacpi' to 'acpi=off' did the trick, thats why i'm sort of happy :)
[06:25] <trappist> err, definitely a packaging issue
[06:25] <ninHer> c'mon with it....it is easy to do
[06:27] <niels> lo everybody:)
[06:27] <niels> here I am agani with another problem:)
[06:27] <zipper_> ninHer, not on an asus a6r laptop... it's the most linux unfriendly laptop i've tried so far
[06:29] <ninHer> patience then, and go for it!
[06:29] <niels> does somebody know how come my music doesn't play? which codecs do I have to download? i downloaded some codecs and still, when i push play it doesn't work:s
[06:29] <zipper_> ninHer, well, that's what i'm doing atm... waiting for driver download to finish
[06:30] <ninHer> ok zipper_ that's right
[06:41] <k2> ?
[06:42] <k2> +m
[06:42] <k2> hee hee
[06:42] <Jucato> ehehe
[06:42] <Jucato> just +quiet
[06:43] <k2> eh?
[06:43] <Tarandus> What is the difference between dpkg-buildpackage and debuild?
[06:44] <k2> What is with the stupid "I'm trying to be trendy so i'm going to spell 'conversation' with a 'K'" bullshit?
[06:45] <k2> Tarandus hates white people
[06:45] <nearfar> but how to get the KDE theme?
[06:46] <k2> shanananananananana
[06:46] <k2> well, IRC isnt as interesting as bash.org makes it out to be :-\
[06:46] <MilhousePunkRock>  Hey abattoir
[06:47] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[06:47] <MilhousePunkRock> I'll be right back, abattoir
[06:47] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: not sure if i'll be there... :P
[06:47] <k2> hey Administrator, lets "chat" *wink*
[06:48] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good morning
[06:48] <abattoir> hello Hawkwind :)
[06:48] <dell500> does anyone here know how to make a partition onto a 300gb sata usb drive.. i've used cfdisk and qtparted
[06:48] <kristyon> parted
[06:49] <abattoir> Hawkwind: you work on ulteo?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> dell500,  ya may need to rephrase that.
[06:49] <dell500> sorry
[06:49] <Dr_willis> i just used qtparted to partition my sata drives.
[06:49] <Dr_willis> made a ext3 on it. :P
[06:49] <dell500> how do you partition a 300gb usb-sata...
[06:50] <dell500> well it's giving me an error
[06:50] <Dr_willis> the usb drive 'should' show up as a sd## drive.  ie: sda/sdb/sdc or so on.
[06:50] <dell500> ya i know which one it is
[06:50] <dell500> it's /dev/sdc
[06:50] <Dr_willis> if its auto-mounting then that may be an issue.
[06:51] <dell500> so i get to the part where i can so-called format it. it goes into ext3 but won't accually format it
[06:52] <Dr_willis> just parttion it. then format it from the shell - perhaps.
[06:52] <dell500> the error i get is "This is a virtual partition. You cannot alter it: use undo instead."
  I'm using kubuntu to mount and copy data from an NTFS drive to a DVD burner running on the kubuntu system.  I've used the burner before without any problems but now it's giving me crap about "some filenames need to be shortened due to the 103 char restriction.."yadda yadda...is there a way to turn off all restrictions in k3b and MAKE it copy it?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> lol
[06:52] <dell500> i did it last night and it totally didn't do any of this lol
[06:52] <nearfar> anyone using anti-aliased Emacs in kubuntu?
[06:52] <dell500> that's wierd
[06:54] <drbreen_> thats wired
[06:55] <maltaethiron> guys,  i hear automatix is something to stay away from?
[06:56] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: I would recommend not using it.
[06:57] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Just stick with apt-get from within a terminal
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> maltaethiron: Ideally you should just go thru the restricted formats howto - and which ever binary driver you need
[06:57] <maltaethiron> gotcha, thanks
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> maltaethiron: If you just follow it start to finish it will be fine
[06:58] <dell500> ya, for some reason fat32 doesn't format very well
[06:59] <maltaethiron> h3sp4wn: well ive been having big problems with flashplugin for konqueror
[06:59] <zered> hi everybody
[07:00] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: What makes you think flash isn't working in konqueror ?
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> maltaethiron: Easyubuntu won't hell you with that (not sure about aytomatix other than it will break alot of other stuff
[07:01] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: You are probably trying to view a site that requires flash 8 or 9 which there isn't an 8 or 9 version for Linux, and won't be until after the first of the year
[07:01] <dell500> Dr_willis, did you use ext3?
[07:02] <maltaethiron> uh, what does homestarrunner use?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> I always use ext3
[07:02] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Probably flash 8
[07:02] <Dr_willis> homestar been around for ages. :P
[07:03] <maltaethiron> hehe
[07:03] <Dr_willis> I like the 'strong bad talking clock' program they have there.
[07:03] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: 95% of all flash sites now use 8 or higher, which makes it impossible for linux users to view it properly
[07:03] <maltaethiron> ahh ok, so really its pointless to install until 07?
[07:03] <trappist> Hawkwind: I dunno about 95%
[07:03] <aliasfred> maltaethiron: i dont have trouble with flash on linux
[07:04] <aliasfred> Hawkwind: where did you get this 95% number ?
[07:04] <maltaethiron> aliasfred: but do you use firefox or konqueror?
[07:04] <oliver_> good eve out there
[07:04] <kristyon> 88% of statistics are made up on the spot
[07:04] <Hawkwind> trappist: Was an exaggeration as it seems most of them
[07:05] <Dr_willis> http://www.homestarrunner.com/weclomeback.html  works for me
[07:05] <Tarandus> Typing apt-get build-dep dosemu it complains that no available version of debhelper satisfies the requirements
[07:05] <maltaethiron> haha @ kristyon
[07:05] <aliasfred> maltaethiron: firefox but i was refering more to the percent of site viewable on linux that the instalation itself
[07:05] <Tarandus> Should I build new debhelper too?
[07:05] <Tarandus> It in turn needs a package called po4a, which is buildable as it is
[07:06] <Kr4t05> Tarandus: Looks like you're trapped in dependancy hell. ;P
[07:06] <maltaethiron> well aliasfred: i did everything possible to try to install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:06] <Tarandus> Kr4t05: Where are the packages whose sources I have installed?
[07:07] <Tarandus> Kr4t05: I mean, where does it put the sources?
[07:07] <maltaethiron> aliasfred: i enabled multiverse whatevers, and all that fun stuff
[07:07] <oliver_> I think i created another problem: can't sudo anymore: "unable to lookup "Excalibur.MSHEIMNETZ via gethostbyname()"  and need serious help
[07:07] <Kr4t05> Tarandus: usually the directory you run apt-get -b source.
[07:07] <castra> hi all ..been playing today with vmware-player and vmware-workstation and after a while decided to remove both. Workstation removal was simple while vmware-player gives me errors ..need input
[07:07] <Kr4t05> Tarandus: In most cases: ~/
[07:07] <dell500> why doesn't qtparted format in fat32?
[07:08] <aliasfred> hmm i see a LOT of complain about the repository stuff and the matter to configure it
[07:08] <aliasfred> i think ubuntu would gain a lot by making this easier that modifying 'by hand'
[07:08] <aliasfred> or maybe it already exists and i am not aware of it
[07:08] <Dr_willis> dell500,  fat32 has a drive size limition i recall.. how big a hd ya formating in fat32?
[07:11] <guy>    ?
[07:11] <castra> anyone know how to force remove packages from apt ? Tryed -f -m but nothing helps
[07:11] <kristyon> apt-get remove package
[07:11] <aliasfred> guy, english here... or another channel but i dont recognize the langage your are using
[07:12] <h3sp4wn> castra: dpkg --force-help (if you have to - force as little as possible)
[07:12] <castra> looks like hebrew
[07:12] <castra> h3sp4wn: thanks..reading
[07:12] <alex__yo> hello
[07:12] <alex__yo> can somebody help me?
[07:12] <aliasfred> castra: what is the langage 'extension' for hebrew. like .fr or .en
[07:13] <castra> no idea..just recognised signs
[07:13] <aliasfred> ok :) wikipedia then :)
[07:13] <guy> hey, i typed hebrew
[07:13] <aliasfred> !he
[07:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about he - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:13] <kristyon> where is the edgy repo?
[07:13] <guy> :)
[07:13] <insanekane> aliasfred: he, iw
[07:14] <insanekane> aliasfred: http://www.unicode.org/onlinedat/languages.html
[07:14] <kristyon> guy, how?
[07:14] <aliasfred> guy and ubotu doesnt know about an hebrew channel :)
[07:14] <oliver_> Can someone please help me ??
[07:14] <kristyon> what oliver?
[07:14] <oliver_> I think i created another problem: can't sudo anymore: "unable to lookup "Excalibur.MSHEIMNETZ via gethostbyname()"  and need serious help
[07:14] <DaSkreech> oliver_: Speak!
[07:14] <Hawkwind> oliver_: With ?
[07:14] <aliasfred> insanekane:ok i used http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language
[07:14] <alex__yo> i have a "3 savage4" graficcard with tv out, but i can select the button tv. ubuntu with kde
[07:14] <guy> does anybody from israel here and likes kubuntu?
[07:14] <insanekane> aliasfred: k
[07:14] <DaSkreech> guy: I would guess so :)
[07:15] <guy> LOL
[07:15] <alex__yo> please help me
[07:15] <woodstock_> !
[07:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:15] <woodstock_> jaja
[07:16] <guy>
[07:16] <guy>
[07:16] <guy>   ?
[07:16] <kristyon> alex, reinstall!
[07:16] <castra> guy: please DO NOT USE hebrew letter ..ONLY english ..thank you
[07:16] <Dr_willis> alex__yo,  that made no sence.. you mean you 'CANT' use the tv out button?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> castra,  heh - looked like some math homework to me.
[07:17] <alex__yo> yes
[07:17] <swanfl> is there any way I can change the K menu icon?
[07:17] <alex__yo> its an invidia card
[07:17] <castra> Dr_willis: well ... not far from the truth :D
[07:17] <Dr_willis> alex__yo,  id advise googling for that exact card. If its using the nvidia chipset/drivers. I had to use the twinview settings to enable my tv out.
[07:18] <eeos> i did recompile the kernel today. all that I could get was a kernel panic
[07:18] <alex__yo> what for a card has you
[07:18] <alex__yo> ?
[07:18] <eeos> using the same config file as in the boot sector
[07:18] <eeos> does anyone know why?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> alex__yo,  Nvidia 9800
[07:18] <castra> Dr_willis: trying to remove certain package which was damadged while installed. Ideas how to remove it by force? apt and dpkg can't help me at all
[07:19] <Dr_willis> castra,  theres a --force option.
[07:19] <alex__yo> i have to type install nvidia-glx
[07:19] <lters> dpkg is your friend.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[07:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:19] <castra> Dr_willis: yes ..but its usless
[07:19] <guy> then i try to install resource code pack by compile utility, it writes me what it canwt find module, what should i do?
[07:21] <castra> Dr_willis: maybe I write command wrong..likesudo dpkg --force-remove-essential vmware-player ??? so
[07:21] <eeos> !kernel
[07:21] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:22] <oliver_> Hawkwind & DaScreetch: any ideas
[07:23] <Dr_willis> castra,  that looks TOTALLY wrong to me.
[07:23] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[07:23] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:23] <Dr_willis> castra,  or ya pasted it wrong. :P
[07:23] <oliver_> I read something about activating the root account, but doesn't say how
[07:23] <Dr_willis> oliver_,  you dont need to. :P
[07:23] <castra> Dr_willis: sudo dpkg --force-remove-essential vmware-player ?? if wrong please advise
[07:24] <guy> then i try to install resource code pack by compile utility, it writes me what it canwt find module, what should i do?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> castra,  i cant recall ever seeing --force-remove-essential  ( perhaps its an option ive never used)
[07:24] <castra> Dr_willis: which command do you use when you can't remove packages with apt-get remove
[07:25] <lters> # sudo dpkg --force-all <package-name>
[07:25] <Dr_willis> castra,  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-erros.en.html
[07:26] <castra> lters:
[07:26] <castra> sudo dpkg --force-all vmware-player
[07:26] <castra> dpkg: need an action option
[07:26] <lters> castra: yeah, you need to have the -r there yet
[07:27] <lters> I have not had good sucess with the vmware player via the apt get.
[07:27] <castra> lters: true but still the same error as with apt-get
[07:27] <oliver_> Dr. Willis":     I think i created another problem: can't sudo anymore: "unable to lookup "Excalibur.MSHEIMNETZ via gethostbyname()"  and need serious help
[07:27] <eeos> !linux-source
[07:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux-source - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:27] <swanfl> is there any way I can change the K menu icon?
[07:27] <kristyon> just get the latest vmware build from their site
[07:27] <lters> swanfl: yes. it is part of the kde theme.
[07:28] <zipper__> i'm trying to install the bcm43xx-firmware package through apt-get, but i'm getting an error when doing an 'apt-get update' : wget -c http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[07:28] <zipper__> sorry, wrong paste
[07:28] <zipper__> i'm trying to install the bcm43xx-firmware package through apt-get, but i'm getting an error when doing an 'apt-get update' : W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net dapper-cafuego Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:
[07:28] <zipper__> thats the right one
[07:29] <gibsonsg> how do i get realplayer to work? i dl it from their site
[07:29] <gibsonsg> it looks like i installed it..do i need to get a package too or something
[07:30] <maltaethiron> lters: how do i go about changing the theme?
[07:30] <jared> zipper... You might want to grab the public key and inport it.
[07:30] <gibsonsg> does helix player play RA files?
[07:30] <lters> maltaethiron: it is in the kde control center.
[07:31] <maltaethiron> lters: ok and how so i get there?
[07:31] <maltaethiron> do*
[07:31] <lters> start/settings...
[07:31] <jared> zipper::: run this : wget http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/969F3F57.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[07:31] <DaSkreech> !gr
[07:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr
[07:33] <castra> is pastebin down?
[07:33] <swanfl> lters, thanks
[07:33] <swanfl> that helped
[07:33] <swanfl> didn't get what I wanted, but it helped ;)
[07:34] <jared> zipper_?
[07:34] <zipper_> jared, sorry, solved it, was being stupid
[07:34] <jared> ah
[07:34] <jared> k
[07:34] <zipper_> was fixing it, thats why i didnt see your message
[07:35] <lters> swanfl: also, you can see the icons /usr/share/icons/  here, by theme. ie: find /usr/share/icons/ | grep kmenu
[07:35] <jared> np wanted to be sure you were being helped
[07:36] <Surger> Anybody know how to stop the KDE configurator from running every time I start KDE?
[07:36] <oliver_> i am back and found the solution for "sudo" problem
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Whee Arts Just crashed
[07:37] <lhds>  i have made an icon on the desktop that runs the command :  sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp2 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp how to stop the command when i want? what am i supposed to do or type?
[07:38] <lters> lhds: sudo pkill -9 sox
[07:38] <oliver_> so how can i change the hostname to a different one ?? (Kubuntu Dapper)
[07:38] <aliasfred> lhds: run it in a terminal and do ctrl-c in the terminal to stop it
[07:39] <swanfl> now that I have had help with changing the theme, where can I get new themes and how do I install them?
[07:39] <lhds> it says that /dev/dsp1 is busy
[07:39] <lhds>  sudo pkill -9 sox didnt do a thing
[07:40] <oliver_> so how can i change the hostname to a different one ?? (Kubuntu Dapper)
[07:41] <oldwulf> lhds you can't run pkill -9  it doesn't like it
[07:42] <Surger> oliver_: sudo kate /etc/hostname
[07:43] <DaSkreech> oliver_: what was the solution?
[07:43] <Surger> oliver_: And change the one in /etc/hosts as well
[07:44] <oliver_> Surger: does that change all the related hostname settings, cause that was my problem earlier !!!!!! Cant sudo anymore
[07:44] <oliver_> DaSkreech: see above
[07:44] <Knightlust> guys, i need your help regarding my genius vivid 4x scanner, I've been spending the whole day trying to configure it. google hasn't helped me. i already installed all instances of sane on adept, anymore suggestions would be helpful. by the way, i;ve tried to use kooka and xsane but to no avail
[07:44] <oliver_> I change hostmae only in /etc/hostname
[07:45] <DaSkreech> oliver_: What kind of setup do you have?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Sudo should not require a network
[07:45] <Surger> oliver_: http://www.cpqlinux.com/hostname.html
[07:45] <Hawkwind> oliver_: When you globally change the hostname a lot of things stop working so going into telinit1 or rebooting will solve the issue
[07:46] <oliver_> DaSkreech: a second ago i rebooted in SafeMode, edited the /etc/hostname to the state before, and everything works fine again, iam confused
[07:47] <Knightlust> guys, help please
[07:47] <DaSkreech> !sane
[07:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about sane - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:47] <DaSkreech> !scanner
[07:47] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[07:47] <oliver_> DaSkreech: and i am new to linux/kubuntu, so please bare with me
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: Red those see if htey help
[07:47] <DaSkreech> oliver_: I'll keep my clothes on for now
[07:48] <Knightlust> ok, thank you
[07:48] <oliver_> DaSkreech: yepp
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Changing your hostname can break sudo?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> oliver_: Sure no problem. Well try to help you fix your problem and if you want to hang around after that we can explain why it broke
[07:49] <Knightlust> oh yeah, i've read that one, and my scanner isn't listed. any other ideas?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> And google turns up no results for that scanner and linux?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: try searching on http:///www.google.com/linux
[07:49] <oliver_> DaSkreech: it did on my machine: was "Excalibur" chnged to "Excalibur.MSHEIMNETZ" -> broke -> change back -> works again, rebbots in between !!!
[07:50] <oliver_> reboots, sorry
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Ah. Hmm
[07:50] <ubuntu> hello
[07:50] <Knightlust> DaSkreech, i already did, search results didn't help me
[07:50] <DaSkreech> May not be allowed
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: About time to start e-mailing the company
[07:51] <aliasfred> indead it is not allowed :)
[07:51] <Knightlust> DaSkreech, google showed results about scanners in linux, but no help for my scanner
[07:51] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: What about inlife?
[07:51] <Knightlust> thank you, will email them then
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: Ask in ##linux
[07:51] <oliver_> DaSkreech: worked that way on my FEDORA 5 box
[07:51] <DaSkreech> May get lucky
[07:51] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: what do you mean by 'inlife' ?
[07:51] <Knightlust> ok, thanks
[07:51] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: indead it is not allowed :)
[07:52] <aliasfred> ah ok :) :)
[07:52] <oliver_> DaSkreech: what about /etc/hosts, should that be modified too ??
[07:54] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I didn't say it could break sudo.  It breaks a lot of things.  It possibly *could* break sudo
[07:55] <oliver_> Hawkwind: be sure it does, maybe /etc/hosts has to be changed accordingly
[07:56] <oliver_> Hawkwind: reason i changed hostname, was to be the same than a Laptop->Samba->Linux setup, but i just noticed, it works withput the.MESHEIMNETZ as well
[07:56] <Tarandus> My wild dependency hell is coming soon to an end
[07:58] <oliver_> ok, have to leave, s.o els needs the machine, thx for th help anyway
[07:59] <oliver_> I THINK I NEED A NEW KEYBOARD :-)
[08:00] <DaSkreech> oliver_: What are you trying to do?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Tarandus: Apt-get :)
[08:01] <Tarandus> DaSkreech: I needed dosemu from Debian's testing
[08:02] <Tarandus> DaSkreech: The Dapper multiverse's dosemu package is broken, and I had to compile some dozen packages until I was finally able to compile and install the dosemu I needed
[08:02] <swanfl> gtg
[08:02] <swanfl> thanks for all the help
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Hmm no sound
[08:03] <Polly_Morf> Anyone know a good program for synchronizing two folders, so that I only copy the new things?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> rsync
[08:04] <Polly_Morf> Thanks
[08:06] <Polly_Morf> DaSkreech: If I have a file in the folder im syncing to, that does not exist in the sync-from dir, will it be removed?
[08:07] <DaSkreech> I think that you can set it to do that
[08:07] <Polly_Morf> well ,i dont wnt it to, but i guess that its qite configurable :D
[08:08] <Surger> I'm sure I saw a package manager with the packages listed in catagories but I can't seem to find it now. I thought it was adept but it looks different.
[08:08] <Polly_Morf> synaptic?
[08:08] <ranunculoid> Where can I find out how to use Lame from the command line? I want to convert some flacs but I dont know what to type.
[08:08] <Surger> Polly_Morf: Nope - it was all pretty icons. That expanded and showed apps under each catagory.
[08:09] <kristyon> lame --help
[08:09] <ranunculoid> thanks
[08:09] <Polly_Morf> or man lame
[08:10] <kristyon> lame --help is more simple to start with
[08:10] <DaSkreech> Surger: Try Add Remove programs from the kMenu
[08:10] <Surger> DaSkreech: Ah! That's the one. Thanks :)
[08:12] <jarska> hi
[08:13] <jarska> Could someone tell me, how to open .bin files?
[08:13] <DaSkreech> jarska: Where did you get it from?
[08:13] <Surger> jarska: You execute them
[08:14] <Surger> sudo sh <binfile>
[08:14] <jarska> I downloaded it from java.sun.com
[08:14] <Surger> sudo sh jdk-blah-blah.bin
[08:14] <jarska> I a beginner with linux, so could u help me?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> jarska: The instructions are on the site :)
[08:15] <DaSkreech> jarska: Reading helps a lot with Linux ;-)
[08:15] <jarska> ty
[08:16] <herve> hi from a french guy
[08:16] <herve> i need some help with amarok
[08:16] <DaSkreech> herve: Yo from a regular joe
[08:17] <kristyon> anyone have the arts demon crash when using guarddog?
[08:17] <DaSkreech> kristyon: I just had it crash for no reason
[08:17] <herve> i have no sound with amarok with xine engine but kaffeine is working with xine
[08:17] <Polly_Morf> kristyon: That was a really really strange problem.
[08:18] <herve> how can i change the amarok engine?
[08:18] <Polly_Morf> in amarok settings
[08:18] <kristyon> anyone managed to get jahshaka working? soooooo many dependencise
[08:18] <herve> i want but how?
[08:19] <kristyon> no fix for artsd crash then?
[08:19] <Cavallo> where winecfg is located when I inwtall wine ?
[08:19] <SeanTater> kristyon: crashed for me too
[08:19] <herve> i want to donwload arts but can't fine it
[08:19] <trappist> artsd is for girls
[08:19] <SeanTater> kristyon: I still do not know a fix for it
[08:20] <SeanTater> trappist: that's why we're moving to phonon
[08:20] <trappist> life is a lot easier when your sound card does hardware mixing and you don't need something like arts
[08:20] <herve> is there something else except amarok to listen radio on the net
[08:20] <SeanTater> herve: try noatun
[08:21] <trappist> SeanTater: me too, but I turn it off and use an audigy
[08:21] <herve> thanks i leave and trys....ee you
[08:22] <ranunculoid> kristyon: lame ain't playing nicely. I think it needs the flacs to be decompressed to wavs first, is there any way to do that fro the command line
[08:22] <trappist> SeanTater: decent pc speakers are surprisingly cheap
[08:22] <norbert> hi there, i am very new to linux. i want to remove a directory (/home/norbert/.wine) i tried the command "rm .wine" but that doesen't work
[08:22] <kristyon> flac-tools or something?
[08:22] <trappist> norbert: rm -rf
[08:22] <SeanTater> ranunculoid: why not try ogg?
[08:22] <lohith> hi any one if i can install oracle 91 with this kubuntu 6.06
[08:22] <kristyon> transcode with also do it
[08:22] <trappist> norbert: where 'r' means recursive and 'f' means force
[08:23] <SeanTater> ranunculoid: although I don't think that would solve a flac decoding problem.
[08:23] <DaSkreech> herve: You get no sound for anyting from amarok?
[08:23] <ranunculoid> SeanTater: OK, anything but FLAC:)
[08:23] <norbert> thanks
[08:23] <ranunculoid> SeanTater: Only Amarok cant handle FLAC, I can decode them with any other audio app
[08:23] <trappist> norbert: `man rm` for more fun
[08:23] <DaSkreech> lohith: You should be able to
[08:24] <SeanTater> trappist: decent? Where I am, they have $3 on one shelf and $120-300 on the next. no middle ground..
[08:24] <TheGateKeeper> norbert: http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[08:24] <trappist> lohith: it can be done, but it won't 'just work' out of the box, because it checks to see if you're running its favorite distro, and gets mad if you're not
[08:24] <yohanooog> does anyone have problems opening files from beagle searches?
[08:24] <lohith> oki thanks daskreech, but do u know i have all the packeges required such as SQL/PL other server archetechuter
[08:24] <SeanTater> ranunculoid: I think lame requires wav -- at least I thought it did -- I'm wondering.
[08:24] <trappist> SeanTater: I paid $70 at fry's for speakers that I use to play music for the whole house
[08:25] <trappist> and they sound terrific
[08:25] <Knightlust> DaSkreech, i was able to make my genius scanner to work, thank you for your help
[08:25] <SeanTater> trappist: ? wireless or did you we-wire your house?
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: What did you do?
[08:25] <SeanTater> trappist: /re-wire/
[08:25] <Knightlust> thank you everyone for your help
[08:25] <Knightlust> i looked for the firmware and saved it on the sane dir
[08:25] <Knightlust> thanks
[08:25] <trappist> SeanTater: the point is that even for that price, they sit on the computer desk in the office and are still good enough to play for the whole house
[08:26] <SeanTater> trappist: okay
[08:26] <ranunculoid> SeanTater: Yeah it does, that's why I'm asking for a CLI app that can decode FLACs to WAVs
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: Well done :)
[08:26] <trappist> SeanTater: mine are logitech - I forget the model, but I'm extremely happy with them
[08:27] <DaSkreech> trappist: Logitech rock!
[08:27] <zipper> On my laptop there is a synaptic touch pad. On its right side it has a scrolling function, however, this does not work properly. Anyone know what i should look for? Already installed ksynaptics, couldnt configure it from that. According to the wiki, it's supposed to be fixed by changing the settings for the synaptics driver, but it doesnt tell how.
[08:28] <trappist> zipper: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-driver-synaptics
[08:28] <Knightlust> ubotu: almost forgot to say thank you, but Thanks
[08:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about almost forgot to say thank you, but Thanks - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:28] <trappist> Knightlust: ubotu is a bot
[08:29] <zipper> trappist, i'll give it a go
[08:29] <Knightlust> ohhh, hehehe!
[08:30] <ranunculoid> SeanTater: oggenc-aotuv451 is working quite nicely :-D
[08:30] <zipper> trappist, didnt do anything. I wasnt asked a single question or anything.
[08:30] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: It appreciates the sentiment anyway :)
[08:30] <edwin> Does Kubuntu come with xgl?
[08:30] <Knightlust> :)
[08:30] <DaSkreech> !xgl > edwin
[08:30] <trappist> zipper: do you have ksynaptics
[08:30] <lohith> hi every one
[08:30] <zipper> trappist, yes
[08:31] <edwin> Is suse linux enterprise desktop open source?
[08:31] <trappist> zipper: have you run it?
[08:31] <Polly_Morf> DaSkreech: about syncing. Read a tutorial about rsync, and it seemed fine. Then I saw that my favourite filemanager, krusader, does the same. Stupid me :D
[08:31] <ranunculoid> edwin: yes
[08:31] <zipper> trappist, it's running right now. I can only enable/disable double tapping with ksynaptics
[08:32] <DaSkreech> ranunculoid: The Enterprise is opensource?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Polly_Morf: Ha ha :)
[08:33] <TheGateKeeper> Polly_Morf: do you use rsync / krusader to keep backups?
[08:33] <ceillo>  hi, any one know i can install oracle 9i on kubuntu and do i need any packeges and  addition server archetecure with  kubuntu
[08:33] <trappist> zipper: have you tried installing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[08:33] <zipper> trappist, thats the one i tried to dpkg-reconfigure, so yes, it's installed
[08:34] <Polly_Morf> TheGateKeeper: well, in a way. Mostly just to sync my portable HD music collection with my computer. The portable gets additions sometimes" on the field"
[08:35] <Polly_Morf> TheGateKeeper: is there a problem doing that?
[08:35] <trappist> zipper: ah, `man synaptics` has some helpful info
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> Polly_Morf: ok you just got me thinking :-)
[08:35] <trappist> zipper: it lists some driver config directives for xorg.conf
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> Polly_Morf: no not that I know of :-)
[08:36] <Polly_Morf> TheGateKeeper: Now im curious. What did you think? It's really a kind of backup, but still not
[08:37] <zipper> trappist, thanks, i'll look into it
[08:37] <alex__yo> how to install beep-media-player in kubuntu dapper? i hav installed yesterday kubuntu! how i have to edit sources.list
[08:40] <DaSkreech> Ahh why dont I have sound :-P
[08:40] <TheGateKeeper> Polly_Morf: I have used tar to make a backup of my system and burnt that to DVD and when you said krusader (which I don't have installed at the moment but may be I should) uses rsync, it got me thinking about a different way of doing backups, and may be even having incremental backups
[08:40] <TheGateKeeper> Polly_Morf: this what I have used in the past: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[08:41] <trappist> TheGateKeeper: yeah rsync is great for backups.  especially incremental backups.
[08:41] <Polly_Morf> TheGateKeeper: It does not use rsync, but it has syyncing capabilities
[08:41] <trappist> TheGateKeeper: it's also very efficient - it just transfers compressed diffs of what needs changing
[08:42] <TheGateKeeper> trappist: Polly_Morf thanx guys :-) food for thought!
[08:44] <TheGateKeeper> alex__yo: a good way to modify your sources.list: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[08:47] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: HEy!
[08:50] <DaSkreech> ok So Midi Works but not PCM type sounds
[08:54] <gibsonsg> how do i install a deb package that i dl
[08:55] <angelus> Ciao a tutti!
[08:55] <aarohi> i have a working installed copy of ubuntu and i have a kubuntu installation cd. is there a way i can add kubuntu to my ubuntu installation through this cd?
[08:55] <angelus> Ci sono italiani?
[08:55] <trappist> aarohi: yeah, add it to your sources.list and say 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[08:56] <trappist> angelus: try #ubuntu-it or #kubuntu-it
[08:56] <aarohi> how do i add the CD to my sources list trappist ?
[08:56] <angelus> Thanks trappist! :)
[08:56] <trappist> aarohi: I don't know :)  I've never added a cd.  I use internet repositories
[08:57] <aarohi> i need to restart into ubuntu trappist .. i'm on the windows installation
[08:57] <aarohi> brb
[09:05] <jarska> hi guys
[09:05] <Hawkwind> trappist: For future references, apt-cdrom is what he would have wanted to look into :)
[09:05] <trappist> Hawkwind: thanks :)
[09:05] <jarska> could u tell me how to create folders, because this says that I have no permisson to create them
[09:05] <Hawkwind> jarska: mkdir is the command from a terminal
[09:06] <jarska> but still it says i have no permission
[09:06] <Hawkwind> jarska: Depending on where you are trying to create them, you might have to use sudo mkdir <dir>
[09:10] <evert> exit
[09:13] <Miko_> Hi, I need help with my thinkpad notebook. im a german linux beginner
[09:13] <DaSkreech> What do you need help to do?
[09:14] <Miko_> The system only sees 1 processor. i wanted to make a new kernel but it didnt work. at startup there comes a kernel panic
[09:14] <Miko_> Its a R60
[09:15] <Miko_> Has anyone a list of kernelmodules which i must compile in?
[09:15] <evert> #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:15] <evert> exit
[09:16] <Miko_> and i need a player which can play mms streams
[09:16] <Miko_> anyone knows one?
[09:16] <Miko_> on windows vlc does do it but my friend seid on linux vlc hasnt got the codec for wmv
[09:16] <Miko_> -do ^^
[09:17] <h3sp4wn> Miko_: The easies way to start is by copying the config of the running kernel from /boot (but 2.6.17 won't work easily on dapper - try 2.6.16 first
[09:17] <Miko_> is there the config? wait i will look
[09:18] <aarohi> Miko_, for wmv codecs you will need a package called w32codecs or something... more about it is given in the FAQs on the site
[09:19] <Miko_> okay thanks. i will search after it
[09:19] <heras> w32codecs won't work for mms
[09:19] <_uwo> hi all - how do i find out what is blocking my sound device?
[09:20] <aarohi> heras, he needs to play wmv files, although i'm not too sure about the mms protocol/filetyle
[09:20] <aarohi> filetype*
[09:20] <heras> and for a dual core you could just install linux-***-smp. *** could be 386, 686, or whatever you need
[09:20] <Tarandus> _uwo: Most often it is Arts, and it helps to decrease the timeout from kcontrol
[09:20] <Tarandus> _uwo: Other than that, I have no idea, but I've personally had trouble with Arts
[09:21] <Miko_> heras what do you mean?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> Miko_: Can you open adept?
[09:21] <heras> aarohi: I installed all I could think of and never got mms to work
[09:21] <Miko_> adept? what is it
[09:21] <Miko_> i cant install gcc ... shit
[09:22] <aarohi> I see heras
[09:22] <Miko_> Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten:
[09:22] <Miko_>   gcc: Hngt ab: cpp (>= 4:4.0.1-3) soll aber nicht installiert werden
[09:22] <Miko_>        Hngt ab: gcc-4.0 (>= 4.0.1-2) soll aber nicht installiert werden
[09:22] <Miko_> E: Kaputte Pakete
[09:23] <Miko_> what means this?
[09:23] <Miko_> i cant install the packates which are shown there
[09:23] <heras> mms is some streaming protocol, aarohi
[09:23] <Miko_> but gcc needs them
[09:23] <heras> ?
[09:23] <aliasfred> it mean you speak german :)
[09:23] <aarohi> I'm aware of that heras
[09:23] <aarohi> it is
[09:23] <Miko_> yes im a german linux beginner ;-)
[09:24] <Miko_> i have experience with linux servers but not with linux desktops and notebooks
[09:24] <aliasfred> !build
[09:24] <heras> aarohi, I meant that as a question, sorry :). Do you know to get it to work?
[09:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:24] <aliasfred> Miko_: the ubotu message is for you
[09:24] <Miko_> yes thx
[09:24] <Miko_> i will take a view at it
[09:24] <aarohi> i haven't tried looking for anything to get mms to work on linux yet heras. but i think there's a slight chance the wmv package might contain something. try looking around vlc too. not quite sure though
[09:25] <Miko_> xine and mplayer seems to have the abbility to play mms streams. but mplayer doesnt work by me and xine dont plays them
[09:25] <heras> aarohi: Thanks, I'll look into it some more :)
[09:25] <aarohi> i'm trying to get kubuntu to be installed on an already existing ubuntu installation. how do i add the cd as a source repository and proceed with the installation. can anybody help?
[09:25] <|lostbyte|> Hi guys :)
[09:25] <aarohi> heras, you're welcome :)
[09:26] <Miko_> aarohi i think apt-cdrom(s) will help
[09:26] <Dromen> aarohi: dont u just add kubuntu_desktop from synaptic?
[09:26] <Miko_> but im not sure
[09:27] <aarohi> Dromen, if i simply add it it will download the packages from the internet, however, i do have the kubuntu CD with me to install them from
[09:27] <aarohi> I'm looking for a way to set the CD up as a source repository
[09:27] <Dromen> oh right
[09:27] <Dromen> sounds like suse
[09:27] <Miko_> does anybody know why i cant install gcc? it says broken package
[09:27] <DaSkreech> !w32codecs > Miko_
[09:27] <Dromen> not sure
[09:27] <Miko_> what can i do?
[09:27] <Miko_> !w32codecs
[09:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:28] <trappist> Miko_: try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:28] <aarohi> Miko_, listen to trappist
[09:28] <aarohi> works
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Argh. How do I get my sound back>
[09:28] <DaSkreech> ?
[09:29] <Miko_> apt-get install build-essential // it doesn't work. it says broken package again and it needs g++ and gcc
[09:31] <darekdmp> jest polski kanal kubuntu????????
[09:31] <darekdmp> halo
[09:32] <|lostbyte|> darekdmp, which language ?
[09:33] <Miko_> are there any german speaking people?
[09:33] <Miko_> OH YEAH now it works
[09:33] <Miko_> my sources.list was broken
[09:33] <darekdmp> polish  .de best
[09:33] <lhds> how to know what version of x.org am i running please?
[09:34] <|lostbyte|> lhds,  X -version
[09:34] <gr33npho3nix> hey guys so i just switched to kde but can't find a standby or hibernate button
[09:34] <darekdmp> jest polski kanal kubuntu????????
[09:34] <lhds> thanx
[09:35] <gr33npho3nix> anybody know where it is
[09:35] <Miko_> How i can program my buttons on the keyboard like "Windows-Button" etc.
[09:36] <\\Neo> hi, i just made a fresh install of kubuntu and im missing the System -> Administration folder
[09:36] <\\Neo> anyone knows how to get it?
[09:37] <Miko_> does anyone know?
[09:37] <RogueX> Hello everyone...
[09:37] <|lostbyte|> Miko_, http://freshmeat.net/projects/hotkeys/
[09:37] <Miko_> thx
[09:37] <Miko_> lostbyte
[09:38] <RogueX> Can anyone tell me how to play a XviD .avi file?
[09:38] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, mplayer
[09:38] <Miko_> install vlc RogueX
[09:38] <DaSkreech> !pl
[09:38] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:39] <RogueX> |lostbyte|: Mplayer just flashs little squares and doenst play
[09:39] <stephan2> Can anyone tell me how zimbra install from source?
[09:39] <RogueX> VLC plays sound but no picture
[09:39] <Miko_> try viedeo lan player or sine
[09:39] <Miko_> xine
[09:40] <Miko_> xine can plays xvid
[09:40] <\\Neo> whats the manual command for gui-based network configuration?
[09:40] <DaSkreech> stephan2: I recall there being a thread on the Zimbra forums
[09:40] <aliasfred> !restricted
[09:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:40] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:40] <RogueX> Miko_: xine?  I have xine engines installed for stuff like Mplayer.......
[09:40] <Miko_> it didnt work lostbyte
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> \\Neo, ifconfig.
[09:41] <aliasfred> the last ubotu message explains how to play propriatary format like xvid
[09:41] <RogueX> |lostbyte|: I have w32codecs installed
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, Looks like you need the ropos.
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> repos.
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> oh.
[09:41] <Bearcat> !seen foot
[09:41] <ubotu> foot is on IRC right now!
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, Does this happen to all your avi vidoes. ?
[09:41] <KaiHanari> !seen hand
[09:41] <ubotu> I haven't seen hand recently
[09:41] <foot> hello there
[09:42] <Miko_> my sound sounds so metallic what can i do?
[09:42] <Bearcat> foot: How far did you get last night
[09:42] <RogueX> |lostbyte|: No just on XviD files... windows plays finne
[09:42] <Miko_> it doesnt matter if i hear over speakers
[09:42] <foot> Bearcat: all the way to sudo mv ~/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./
[09:43] <foot> Bearcat: aparently it cat find /ivtv-0.4.0...
[09:43] <Bearcat> it may just be a different version depending on how old this doc is
[09:43] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, works fine here.
[09:43] <foot> Bearcat: are  'tar.gz' files part of the headers?
[09:43] <Miko_> when i type in the command make menuconfig there are comeing lots of failures
[09:43] <Bearcat> foot: i'm loading that page now
[09:44] <Bearcat> foot: in a terminal type "uname -a" and tell me the version number after "linux"
[09:45] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:45] <trappist> Bearcat: fyi, uname -r is better for that
[09:45] <foot> Bearcat: 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:45] <DaSkreech> !seen sabdfl
[09:45] <ubotu> I last saw sabdfl<EMAIL_ADDRESS>11m 39s ago, quiting: Read error: 113 (No route to host)
[09:45] <Bearcat> trappist: thak you. I can always use new hints :)
[09:46] <aarohi> i have the kubuntu cd added to the repository list and i started installing the kubuntu-desktop package through synaptic but unfortunately it starts downloading packages from the internet. i cancelled. what do i do to make it install the kubuntu packages from cd? someone help please. :)
[09:46] <trappist> Bearcat: you can even do things like sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) to get the headers for your running kernel
[09:46] <Bearcat> foot: i need to ask a few questions of the fine people in here
[09:46] <foot> be ok
[09:47] <Bearcat> folks, is 2.5.15-23 the latest kernel that ships with kubuntu?
[09:47] <trappist> Bearcat: no.  2.6.15-26
[09:47] <Miko_> why dont you say me this trappist
[09:47] <Miko_> i think this could help me
[09:47] <trappist> Miko_: eh?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> Miko_: You need SMP kernel
[09:48] <Miko_> smP what is it?
[09:48] <trappist> hrm.  permanewb.  sounds awfully pessimistic.
[09:48] <kosh> symetric multi processing it means multiple cpus
[09:48] <Miko_> the ubuntu mirrors are so slow. debianmirrors are faster.
[09:48] <Bearcat> trappist: thank you. We're trying to install Mythtv for foot here, and the ivtv drivers are very  kernel specific. I'm a sourcemage user (like gentoo, but bash and more scratch), so i'm leaning apt-get for the first time here.
[09:48] <Miko_> yes kosh i will compile it in
[09:48] <Miko_> when i can load the config file
[09:49] <DaSkreech> can' I Shift Konqueror tabs around?
[09:49] <DaSkreech> Miko_: SMP allows you to use two CPU's or two cores on a Dual CPU setup
[09:49] <angasule> !compiz
[09:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:49] <DaSkreech> Otherwise you will only see one
[09:49] <DaSkreech> !sound
[09:49] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:49] <trappist> Bearcat: ivtv + mythtv is one of the hardest things I've ever done on a computer.  of course that was back in the 2.5 kernel days when the ivtv drivers only had experimental support for 2.5.  but the firmware thing is a pain.
[09:49] <Miko_> yes, i know that but i was unable to build my own kernel. now i copied the config from the actually kernel
[09:50] <Bearcat> foot: looking at the ivtv page you want to use version  0.4.6 of the ivtv
[09:50] <kosh> Miko_: what are you trying to compile your own kernel? how many cpus do you have? what are they?
[09:50] <foot> Bearcat: right, I got that
[09:50] <Miko_> its a core duo t2300 with 2 cores
[09:51] <Miko_> but now only one k
[09:51] <Miko_> core is working
[09:51] <kosh> did you install the 64bit version of ubuntu or the 32bit version?
[09:51] <Miko_> but i want to compile my own kernel that the kernelmodules i dont need will not load
[09:51] <Miko_> i installed the kubuntu 32 bit cd version
[09:51] <Miko_> its a 32 bit cpu
[09:51] <kosh> the kernel modules you don't need don't load anyways
[09:51] <Miko_> core duo with 64 bit is not released yet
[09:51] <Bearcat> foot: you want this file http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/archive/0.4.x/ivtv-0.4.6.tar.gz
[09:52] <DaSkreech> Everything seems to think there is sound but there isn't :-(
[09:52] <Miko_> kosh the most but not all
[09:52] <DaSkreech> I've restarted teh sound server Switched the engine
[09:52] <TheGateKeeper> foot: you managed to sort out your sources.list?
[09:52] <Miko_> DaSkreech which soundcard do you have?
[09:52] <kosh> miko it makes no difference, it will not run any faster etc but you are going to frustrate yourself a lot
[09:52] <foot> Bearcat:  opening with ark
[09:52] <kosh> I would just install the standard smp kernel   sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[09:53] <DaSkreech> Miko_: It was working fine last night
[09:53] <foot> TheGateKeeper: yup, it is linux-headers, not linux headers
[09:53] <Miko_> The friend from my sister is a very good pc specialist. he has got lots of experience. he said if the kernel is smaller it will run faster
[09:53] <DaSkreech> This morning artsd crashed and now I can't hear anything
[09:53] <kosh> you friend does not know what he is talking about
[09:53] <Bearcat> foot: you can browse it with ark, but you might want to just do a "wget  http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/archive/0.4.x/ivtv-0.4.6.tar.gz" from the directoy you are working in.
[09:54] <lhds> how can i convert wma to mp3 what is that better program?
[09:54] <Miko_> I'm modifing the existing kernel yet
[09:54] <foot> Bearcat: I have two copies in my home lovely
[09:54] <foot> Bearcat: when I use the find folder option it is disinclined to see them
[09:54] <Miko_> My sound sounds so metallican. what can i do?
[09:55] <kosh> the only way compiling a new kernel will make things run faster is if there is a newer kernel that has fixes for current problems you are having
[09:55] <Miko_> make[2] : *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Fehler 1
[09:55] <Miko_> make[1] : *** [menuconfig]  Fehler 2
[09:55] <Miko_> make: *** [menuconfig]  Fehler 2
[09:55] <Miko_> i cant start make menuconfig
[09:55] <aliasfred> lhds: many programs can do it, sox, mencoder are the ones on top of my mind
[09:55] <TheGateKeeper> foot: so that was what you where on about :-)
[09:56] <Miko_> even if i installed all packages
[09:56] <kosh> since you have core duo I am going to assume you have a laptop, I have not seen a laptop yet that didn't sound bad
[09:56] <Bearcat> kosh: even, if it takes up less memory? I would think that a kernal built with modules rather then in a monolithic fasion (loading lots of stuff ya don't need) would give you more system resources.
[09:56] <DaSkreech> No Music or sound make daskreech go crazy
[09:56] <foot> TheGateKeeper: keep in mind I have been using linux since tuesday
[09:56] <sredna> Hi
[09:56] <kosh> Bearcat: the default kernels for all dists is completely modular, and it will only load modules that the system detects
[09:56] <Miko_> kosh, but the chipsets are so modern. even the onboard chipsets. i have "kopfhrer" i dont know the english word. it sounds bad with them too
[09:57] <Bearcat> kosh: coolness
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> might find what I have thrown together here usefull: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[09:57] <sredna> What do I need to do to get kde 3.5.4? An upgrade with adept will only update to 3.5.2-something, my kubuntu version seems to be 6.06-11
[09:57] <Bearcat> foot: you mean it can't find the file you just downloaded? I don't understan what the current issue is
[09:57] <Tarandus> kopfhrer, I guess it's earphones
[09:58] <Miko_> earphones yes
[09:58] <Miko_> it sounds bad on earphones and speakers
[09:58] <Miko_> it sounds metallican
[09:58] <Tarandus> first, see that all you volume settings are not at 100%
[09:58] <Tarandus> put everything to, say, 81%
[09:58] <Tarandus> that is a safe default
[09:59] <Tarandus> at least master volume and PCM volume
[09:59] <Miko_> whats the name of the acutally stable kernel?
[09:59] <Tarandus> those are the ones that count when playing music
[09:59] <Bearcat> By the way, foot i know this is frustrating. I'm proud that you've gotten so far, considering this is one of the hardest things to do on a linux box.
[09:59] <foot> Bearcat: I didnt just download it. In the process of the last three days I now have two copies of in on file, bnut my file search didnt pick them up for some reason. I just remembered where they are. now as to geting them to 'mv' whatever that is I dont know
[09:59] <aliasfred> Tarandus: good suggestion, Miko_ may look at the mic volume, i know my box produce weird sound when the mic volume is up
[09:59] <Miko_> i will try it with the actually smp kernel because i cant run make menuconfig
[09:59] <foot> Bearcat: I am stubborn, and paitent
[09:59] <kosh> does it still sound that bad if you turn the volume down?
[10:00] <Tarandus> Miko_: the other cause is that often modern motherboards and soundcards have only line level outputs
[10:00] <Bearcat> foot: hwo are you finding them? With the "locate" command?
[10:00] <Miko_> where can i watch after my mic valume
[10:00] <Tarandus> Miko_: you need an amplifier there before the headphones or speakers
[10:00] <Bearcat> Miko_: alsamixer in a terminal for one.
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> Miko_, kmix
[10:01] <Miko_> kmix?
[10:01] <Miko_> i will install it
[10:01] <|lostbyte|> Miko_, its already installed.
[10:01] <foot> Bearcat: "find files or folders" from the K comand button, but I remembered where I put them so I found them with konqueror
[10:01] <|lostbyte|> Miko_, Just type in alt + f2 > kmix
[10:01] <reagleBRKLN> kde 3.5.4 is automounting my external devices and even giving them symbolic names in '/media' BUT
[10:01] <|lostbyte|> it will show up in  your pannel.
[10:01] <Miko_> kmix: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[10:01] <Miko_> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[10:01] <Miko_> ERROR: Communication problem with kmix, it probably crashed.
[10:01] <reagleBRKLN> its mounting my drive in a SLOW way: /dev/sde1 on /media/usbdisk-1 type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,data=ordered)
[10:01] <kosh> Miko_: are you running the gui right now?
[10:02] <Miko_> yes
[10:02] <Miko_> gui is running
[10:02] <Miko_> ahhh
[10:02] <kosh> Miko_: just type alt-f2 kmix
[10:02] <kosh> Miko_: or you can find it on the menu
[10:02] <Bearcat> so foot what mv command are you trying to do? I don't see that in the instructions
[10:02] <Miko_> i must type it in the "ausfhren" window. sorry english word is missing
[10:02] <foot> Bearcat: what is the mv command that I am attempting to do?
[10:02] <Bearcat> foot: yes and why
[10:03] <Miko_> i think sound is okay
[10:03] <Miko_> but before too
[10:03] <foot> http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[10:03] <Miko_> im only crazy ^^
[10:03] <Miko_> but why isnt make menuconfig working :-(
[10:03] <kosh> most people are crazy, that does not make you very different
[10:03] <foot> Bearcat: down about halfway sudo mv ~/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./
[10:03] <Bearcat> foot: also, once we get the ivtv drivers installed there are a few apps to watch tv with. Myv is just one of them, but it also allows you to pause and record tv
[10:03] <kosh> menuconfig is probably missing some of the headers it needs
[10:04] <Bearcat> ahh
[10:04] <Miko_> kosh but im not crazy like the others. i dont bomb states
[10:04] <Miko_> i installed the headers
[10:04] <Bearcat> foot: are you copying in that command exactly? (I'm gonna read up so i can catch up to you
[10:05] <foot> Bearcat: yes, Ill be rb, tow truck arived
[10:05] <Bearcat> cool
[10:05] <nabz> hey, does anyone know how to add a image to grub? like a background
[10:05] <Miko_> what is adept?????
[10:05] <Bearcat> foot: i think i know what the problem might be
[10:05] <nabz> adept is a package manager.
[10:05] <nabz> lets you select packages to install
[10:05] <Bearcat> Miko_: it's a gui interface for apt-get (as far as i can tell)
[10:05] <Miko_> oh i dont like them
[10:05] <reagleBRKLN> so can i configure the automount options?
[10:05] <Miko_> apt-get is the only one which will run on my machine
[10:06] <nabz> how can i change my default media player?
[10:07] <Miko_> okay next question. in my task bar there are showing all task of all 4 desktops. but i want that there are only shown the one of the activ desktop. how can i do this?
[10:08] <sredna> What do I need to do to get kde 3.5.4? An upgrade with adept will only update to 3.5.2-something, my kubuntu version seems to be 6.06-11
[10:08] <mackan> www.kubuntu.org
[10:08] <mackan> follow one of the headlines
[10:08] <sredna> mackan: To what?
[10:08] <trappist> sredna: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main  <-- in your sources.list
[10:08] <mackan> exactyl
[10:08] <sredna> trappist: Ty, let me check
[10:09] <nabz> how can i change my default media player?
[10:09] <mackan> then apt-get update
[10:09] <mackan> and dist-upgrade
[10:09] <Miko_> okay next question. in my task bar there are showing all task of all 4 desktops. but i want that there are only shown the one of the activ desktop. how can i do this?
[10:09] <sredna> Ah, it said breezy, and gave an error. Thanks again
[10:10] <trappist> sredna: you *are* running dapper, right?
[10:10] <sredna> trappist: Yes, as I said, it claims to be v. 6.06-11
[10:11] <trappist> ok good :) I wouldn't expect the 3.5.4 upgrade to go very well on a breezy box
[10:11] <asimon> Miko_: right-click on a free place on the panel, choose Configure Panel...->Taskbar: uncheck 'Show windows from all desktops'
[10:12] <Miko_> thx asimon
[10:12] <Miko_> it worked
[10:12] <DaSkreech> nabz: Not sure check System Settings
[10:12] <foot> Bearcat: I'm Back
[10:12] <nabz> ok thanks
[10:12] <zipper> Hmm, according to the various guides, i should be using the synaptics driver for my touchpad. I have installed ksynaptics and it runs... but if i select "disable touchpad", nothing happends, my touchpad still works. Can anyone give me a hint?
[10:13] <salita> does anyone here have or have heard about the 1600sw flat panel?
[10:13] <lhds>  i have downloaded the latest kernel available http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17   check it on your list and do it . it helps remove all the problems
[10:13] <Miko_> how can i run commands for the gui from the terminal? without using the gui?
[10:13] <timthelion> zipper: do you have another mouse plugged in?
[10:13] <zipper> timthelion, yes
[10:13] <ctkt05> i need help with my wireless/router... i can ping the router, even access the router config, and everything else within the network but i cannot connect to any internet pages or anything outside my network
[10:14] <zipper> timthelion, they both still work if i disable the touchpad
[10:14] <Miko_> because you helped me so much here is some fun for you: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8716182511981397839
[10:14] <DaSkreech> Miko_: man Dcop
[10:14] <timthelion> zipper:have you tried running it with out that mouse pluged in?
[10:14] <rOOb> ctkt05, check your /etc/resolv.conf
[10:14] <Miko_> Dcop what does it mean?
[10:14] <rOOb> ctkt05, make sure u have nameservers in there
[10:14] <DaSkreech> man dcop
[10:14] <ctkt05> i can ping my ISP's nameservers and the show up in the resolv.conf
[10:15] <zipper> timthelion, how do i restart ksynaptics? There is no such command as 'ksynaptics'
[10:15] <DaSkreech> It's a communication protocol that KDe uses. You can manipulate a lot of gui things with it
[10:15] <rOOb> ctkt05, so there are nameservers in the resolv.conf?
[10:15] <ctkt05> i had the exact same problem with a windows laptop and i disabled netbios over tcp/ip and also LMHOSTS lookup and it soved it
[10:15] <ctkt05> yes there are
[10:15] <rOOb> ctkt05, what kinda router do u have?
[10:15] <ctkt05> its an older linksys .11b router
[10:16] <rOOb> ctkt05, ahh i have one as well
[10:16] <asimon> nabz: I think you have to set the default media player for every file type seperately. Start konqueror, then in the menue: Settings->Configure Konqueror...->File Associations, there choose the file type (for example avi) and set your preferred video player on the top.
[10:16] <timthelion> zipper: isn't it in kmenu->utilitys
[10:16] <aarohi> i'm on ubuntu and i have the kubuntu cd added to the repository list and i started installing the kubuntu-desktop package through synaptic but unfortunately it starts downloading packages from the internet. i cancelled. what do i do to make it install the kubuntu packages from cd? someone help please.........
[10:16] <rOOb> ctkt05, and u can ping only ips?..and not hostnames?...or are all ips outside the lan unreachable?
[10:16] <zipper> timthelion, it's not =/. How do i update the menu?
[10:16] <ctkt05> all outside lan are unreachable
[10:17] <ctkt05> its almost as if my router is blocking traffic to the ubuntu laptop
[10:17] <rOOb> ctkt05, ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:17] <rOOb> hmm
[10:17] <ctkt05> im using the router for this laptop and i can access everything
[10:17] <rOOb> so u cant ping that
[10:17] <ctkt05> nope
[10:17] <ctkt05> well shit
[10:17] <ctkt05> im gettin a response from that now
[10:17] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: does your sources.list have CD & internet repos?
[10:17] <timthelion> zipper: you close all aplications and press ctrl-alt-backspace,  then log in iirc
[10:17] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: yes
[10:18] <rOOb> ctkt05, well im not to sure man...........im trying to think of what could be causing the prob
[10:18] <zipper> timthelion, be right back then
[10:18] <Miko_> i have no sound with firefox on videos with flash plugin. but i installed it successfully
[10:18] <ctkt05> i can ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:18] <rOOb> ctkt05, u CAN?
[10:18] <wildbat> hello ~ anyone here knows how to use SKIM ?
[10:18] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: comment out the internet repos, press reload on synaptic and try again
[10:18] <rOOb> ctkt05, itdefiantly sounds like a dns issue......that ip is googles
[10:18] <ctkt05> hah, so wierd... yes i can. i tried it earlier
[10:18] <ctkt05> and got nothing
[10:18] <ctkt05> but now i can
[10:19] <Miko_> i have no sound with firefox on videos with flash plugin. but i installed it successfully
[10:19] <ctkt05> yeah i see that now
[10:19] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: when i do that, the kubuntu-desktop package disappears from the list
[10:19] <aarohi> along with some other required ones
[10:19] <rOOb> ctkt05, can u try and ping google.com real quick
[10:19] <sprink> what does kubuntu use in replace of apt-setup?
[10:19] <ctkt05> i cant get it to ping www.google.com
[10:19] <ctkt05> so does that mean somethings fucked up with my DNS?
[10:19] <rOOb> or try traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:19] <rOOb> see where it goes
[10:19] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: are you using the alternative cd or the livecd?
[10:20] <rOOb> ctkt05, are u using any kinda firewall on the ubuntu box?
[10:20] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: the 6.06 CD.. they've combined it in one
[10:20] <zipper> timthelion, i tried restarting ksynaptics without another mouse plugged in. Same result, disabling the touchpad in ksynaptic doesnt do a thing.
[10:20] <rOOb> ctkt05, or is your outer runnign an advanced firewall
[10:20] <ctkt05> whats the command for traceroute?
[10:20] <asimon> wildbat: I dunno but there is a guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Kubuntu?action=show
[10:20] <sprink> how do I add new repositorys to apt, where is apt-setup?
[10:20] <rOOb> ctkt05, shows the hops it takes
[10:21] <salita> what does it mean to have error "403 Forbidden" just in one server of my repos when i try to install with easyubuntu?
[10:21] <ctkt05> is traceroute the actual command? it comes back saying command not found
[10:21] <rOOb> ctkt05, if u traceroute google.com u will see u go thorugh several hops
[10:21] <rOOb> ctkt05, traceroute
[10:21] <rOOb> or try tracepath
[10:22] <jani> Hello, can anyone help me with my wlan card? The Kinfocenter shows the card under the PCI tab, but I can't activate the connections, ideas please?
[10:22] <rOOb>  google.com
[10:22] <rOOb> whoops
[10:22] <ctkt05> ah, tracepath works
[10:22] <Miko_> i have no sound with firefox on videos with flash plugin. but i installed it successfully
[10:22] <asimon> ctkt05: tracepath is installed by default, if you want to use traceroute you first have to install the package
[10:22] <jani> This is a IBM T22 laptop
[10:22] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: there are 2 seperate cd's one is the livecd with a gui installer no packages, and the other is the 'alternative cd' which comes with a text installer and I believe also has packages on it. It is the second one you want, otherwise you are going to get nowhere fast!
[10:23] <ctkt05> i did tracepath <IP_ADDRESS> and it has 2 hops then the rest are no replies
[10:23] <jani> abd
[10:23] <rOOb> ctkt05, what are the 2 hops?
[10:23] <jani> and WLan card is on PCMCIA slot
[10:23] <zipper> I'm supposed to use the synaptic driver for my touchpad however i think something is wrong. If i disable the touchpad in ksynaptic, nothing happends. No other mice plugged in. How do i configure the driver? Is it somewhere in xorg.conf?
[10:23] <rOOb> your router then??.
[10:23] <foot> Bearcat: hello?
[10:23] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: i think i only got 5 CDs in total with the new LTS release.. it was the previous breezy badger versions that 2 CDs were provided
[10:23] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: the new version has both live and installation CD on a single CD
[10:24] <foot> AAARRRGGG
[10:24] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: i'm going to install from the internet.. thanks for the help :)
[10:24] <ctkt05> <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) then <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) then no replies after that
[10:24] <Miko_> i have no sound with firefox on videos with flash plugin. but i installed it successfully
[10:24] <ctkt05> thats my actual IP
[10:24] <foot> Behave you figured out the mv comand?
[10:24] <Bearcat> yeah i think
[10:24] <rOOb> ctkt05, hehe umm.....
[10:24] <ctkt05> yeah shouldnt of put it in here...
[10:24] <rOOb> ctkt05, my 1st 2 hops are my machines ip...then my router
[10:25] <ctkt05> hmm
[10:25] <rOOb> ctkt05, i think u need to add the default gateway maby?
[10:25] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/
[10:25] <Bearcat> in what directory are the two files that you are trying to move
[10:25] <ctkt05> the default gateway is my router
[10:25] <ctkt05> is that correct?
[10:25] <rOOb> but then if u had no gateway u probly should be able to ping ANYTHING outside the lan
[10:25] <rOOb> ctkt05, yup
[10:25] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: read that url and you will see what I am on about
[10:25] <rOOb> ctkt05, i have a linksys router and i use <IP_ADDRESS> as the gateway
[10:26] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: i do see now. i was not aware of those. thank you
[10:26] <ctkt05> i changed it from 1.1 to 0.1
[10:26] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: yw :-)
[10:26] <aarohi> :-)
[10:26] <Bearcat> foot:  in what directory are the two files that you are trying to move (in case you didn't see that)
[10:27] <rOOb> ctkt05, hmm im not a networking expert but did u also chaneg the netmask and other crap needed to chage the network range?
[10:27] <rOOb> ctkt05, i always though the netmask and few others things needed changes
[10:27] <rOOb> but i could be totaly wrong
[10:27] <foot> Bearcat: ahhh,  mv=move
[10:27] <Bearcat> foot: yup! cp == copy
[10:28] <ctkt05> the netmask needs to  be changed when you mess with the DHCP pool or total amount of available IPs you want to give out
[10:28] <foot> I gotta go eat. will you be here in an hour?
[10:28] <ctkt05> ive got the router's ip set as <IP_ADDRESS> and the gateway is also <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:28] <Miko_> Which kernelversion has the newest kubuntu version? how can i check it?
[10:28] <ctkt05> i know it works
[10:28] <ctkt05> because im using it right now
[10:28] <Bearcat> foot: yup (unless something happends at work)
[10:28] <TheGateKeeper> foot: linux commands: http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[10:28] <ctkt05> along with 10 other laptops or so
[10:28] <ctkt05> its just my ubuntu that wants to be a pain in the ass about it
[10:28] <foot> TheGateKeeper: thx
[10:28] <rOOb> ctkt05, hmm well somthing isnt set right somewhere.....where i cannot say
[10:28] <TheGateKeeper> foot: yw :-)
[10:29] <ctkt05> it must be a setting on ubuntu because like i said 10+ other laptops work fine on the network
[10:30] <ctkt05> i had one issue with a laptop, and i disabled the lmhosts lookup and the netbios over tcp/ip and it made it work for some reason
[10:30] <ctkt05> i dont know why but it di
[10:30] <ctkt05> did
[10:30] <rOOb> hm
[10:30] <baskew> ctkt05: what about ipv6 it could be trouble for you
[10:31] <ctkt05> what is ipv6...
[10:31] <ctkt05> i found something about that on google
[10:31] <ctkt05> i went into firefox, about:config, searched for ipv6 and disabled it
[10:31] <ctkt05> didnt help
[10:31] <baskew> it can cause strange results
[10:31] <aliasfred> something i can beat! :)
[10:32] <rOOb> ctkt05, sorry i cant help ya more but im out of ideas...if i think of any more ill let ya know
[10:32] <ctkt05> ok, i can access google via the IP address... but not actual google.com
[10:33] <narvik86> so dns ?
[10:33] <baskew> i believe you have to edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and comment out ipv6 line
[10:33] <rOOb> yea its gotta be dns
[10:33] <ctkt05> wierd
[10:33] <aliasfred> cat /etc/resove.conf
[10:33] <baskew> yeahthat does sound like dns if you an reach
[10:33] <baskew> /etc/resolv.conf
[10:33] <ctkt05> my ISP has 3 dns servers... i can ping 2  of the 3 so i tried removing the one thats unreachable
[10:33] <ctkt05> but it didnt help
[10:34] <narvik86> isp dns have to be set at router
[10:34] <baskew> ctkt05: make sure resolv.conf has the right entries
[10:34] <narvik86> at laptop set ruoter dns IMO
[10:34] <ctkt05> it does, looking at it now
[10:34] <ctkt05> on the laptop ive input the dns settings and also in the router ive input them
[10:34] <rOOb> ctkt05, also maby try to add your router to the resolv.conf
[10:34] <baskew> i would set the router ans ur dns
[10:34] <baskew> in resolv.conf that is
[10:35] <aholler> is there a way to disable or avoid bluetooth-detection during startup from the live/installation-cd/dvd?
[10:35] <ctkt05> ah, so add my router Ip to the dns?
[10:35] <narvik86> in my resolf.con i have only router dns: nameserver 192.168....
[10:35] <narvik86> yes
[10:35] <rOOb> ctkt05, its worth a sht
[10:35] <baskew> make it the 1st entry, really the only probably
[10:35] <rOOb> i have a huge list of dns server in mine
[10:36] <narvik86> i have only one
[10:36] <rOOb> found every dns server in my state and the surrounding 2 or 3 states
[10:36] <rOOb> lol
[10:36] <baskew> ctck05: are the other machines behind this router having any dns issues?
[10:36] <baskew> *ctkt05
[10:37] <ctkt05> nope
[10:37] <ctkt05> im using a machine behind it now
[10:37] <ctkt05> and have no problems what so ever
[10:37] <ctkt05> they are all windows machines though
[10:37] <rOOb> ctkt05, heres a list of my resolv.conf
[10:37] <rOOb> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/47
[10:37] <baskew> what are the dns settings for those machines? ipconfig /all
[10:38] <Bearcat> git fetch origin master:origin
[10:38] <Bearcat> oops. wrong window
[10:38] <ctkt05> <IP_ADDRESS> (cant ping, about to remove from router and computer)
[10:38] <ctkt05> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:38] <ctkt05> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:40] <silvio> #debian
[10:42] <ctkt05> i cant believe i havent found anyone yet that has a solution to this, its so frustrating
[10:43] <KaiHanari> I've written a script, i want to have ubuntu run this script at boot, very early in the boot process, as root... how do i do this?
[10:44] <lhds> there is this sound script i want to load : #!/bin/sh sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp2 -t ossdsp -w -r 32000 /dev/dsp & tvtime --mixer=/dev/mixer:pcm wait tvtime t=`pidof sox`kill $t; amixer -c 0 sset PCM 80%,80%  unmute |||||| where do i have to put this?
[10:44] <narvik86> ctkt05: did you add already router's ip to resolf.conf?
[10:44] <KaiHanari> lhds, when do you want it to load?
[10:44] <lhds> well if it loads at startup .... whynot !
[10:45] <lhds> there is wait tvtime that means that it has to wait so that tvtime opens
[10:45] <lhds> right? so its at startup i guess
[10:45] <baskew> ctkt05: try dig
[10:45] <ctkt05> yes, added router to resolv.conf, no luck
[10:46] <ctkt05> baskew: what do you mean by dig?
[10:46] <narvik86> ctkt05: and restared network of course?
[10:46] <Seiph3r> Hey there anyone know if it is at all possible to fix or rebuild an ext3 partition if it has been deleted from the partition table
[10:46] <lhds> KaiHanari so?
[10:46] <ctkt05> yup
[10:46] <narvik86> ctkt05: type dig in console
[10:46] <Bearcat> folks, i have a concern about my friend using kubuntu. I've exiled sudo on my system as i belive it is a *huge* security risk. Why is using it with kubuntu safe?
[10:46] <baskew> ctkt05: dig is a dns tool
[10:47] <uwo> having problems with java + konqueror - some (older) faq says it might help to input the path to java executable into konq settings... how do i find this path?
[10:47] <KaiHanari> lhds, i just asked about having something run on startup myself, i dont know yet. but your script i think is better off running at login
[10:47] <lhds> how to make it work?
[10:47] <lhds> i save it in a .sh a .pl file?
[10:48] <Seiph3r> bearcat is he using this for senstive data or a server or without a firewall or something?
[10:48] <narvik86> lhds: .sh
[10:48] <ctkt05> ok, did dig, what am i looking for... it says query: 1, answer: 13
[10:48] <Seiph3r> So anyone know anything about ext3 partition recovery?
[10:49] <Bearcat> Seiph3r: to do anything in kubuntu that would require root access (certian installs) you have to use sudo, right?
[10:49] <baskew> oh that search root nameservers
[10:49] <Seiph3r> Bearcat: yes you do
[10:50] <ctkt05> basku: what do you mean
[10:50] <Bearcat> Seiph3r: Sudo makes it possible to break a system if you can get in as a normal user. How is that safe?
[10:50] <ctkt05> baskew i mean
[10:50] <narvik86> Seiph3r: you can try something with cfdisk but i don't know what exactly
[10:50] <baskew> ctkt05: what happens when you try dig google.com
[10:51] <Seiph3r> Bearcat: Is he expecting someone to break into his computer.  I am not saying it is 'safe' I am suggesting Kubuntu is not for applications that require such a high degree of security.  It is mearly convenient.
[10:51] <Seiph3r> narvik86: yeah I don't think there is much cfdisk can do for me at this point.
[10:52] <Bearcat> Seiph3r: no, he's not. I don't use kubuntu, i use sourcemage (like gentoo with bash). I was just shocked to learn that sudo is a core part of the process of using kubuntu
[10:52] <ctkt05> under answer i get 0, authority, 13, under authority section lists a bunch of addresses such as l.gtld-servers.net
[10:52] <narvik86> Seiph3r: sfdisk ?
[10:52] <baskew> ctkt05: what does it say in the SERVER line
[10:53] <Seiph3r> Bearcat: Yeah I am partial to gentoo myself.  I have only been using Kubuntu for this laptop because it has been convenient for me.
[10:53] <ctkt05> <IP_ADDRESS>#53(<IP_ADDRESS>)
[10:54] <Seiph3r> narvik86: not sure how I can use sfdisk to rebuild the partition table
[10:54] <nabz> how do i no which version of kde i got?
[10:55] <Seiph3r> nabz: try 'kdesktop --version'
[10:55] <nabz> thanks :)
[10:55] <DaSkreech> nabz: Open some random application and look under help :)
[10:55] <Seiph3r> Figure I am SOL with this partition pretty much.    I installed Kubuntu about 2 days ago, and I thought that it was high time I got back to Windoze to get some files ready to move over to Linux.  Well I booted it from Grub, and Windoze had just finishing check disk, and I turn away.  I look back and there is Kubuntu starting to boot up!  I'm on it now...(tho' I just noticed my Liquid Weathers not up).  Has any one had this odd take over b
[11:02] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Shhhh it's part of the master plan
[11:03] <ctkt05> im still wondering why on my windows machine that had the same problem that by disabling lmhosts lookup and/or netbios over tcp/ip solved the problem
[11:03] <CVirus> LOL
[11:03] <Blissex> otaku-san: you :-)
[11:03] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: Haha yeah I guessed as much!
[11:04] <TheGateKeeper> Bearcat: why sourcemage not gentoo or kubuntu?
[11:04] <baskew> ctkt05: does the output of ifconfig look correct?
[11:04] <Arkkis> Hey, I'm trying to get Azureus working, and when I start it, it just freezes and shows error messages that I can not close
[11:05] <Arkkis> any suggestions how to fix this?
[11:05] <ctkt05> as far as i can tell it looks correct
[11:05] <CVirus> Arkkis: no one knows how to fix something without an error msg .. sorry
[11:05] <ctkt05> shows correct ip, bcast, mask
[11:05] <Arkkis> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Argument cannot be null at org.eclipse.swt.SWT.error(SWT.java:2926)
[11:06] <Bearcat> TheGateKeeper: as far as kubuntu goes, i want a highly configurable system that compiles thing for my cpu (i can control the compilation process). Gentoo is nice, but i dont' like the dependancy on perl. Sourcemage uses plain bash. Also i was in sourcemage from the beginning. It's been almost 7 years with it i think.
[11:06] <ctkt05> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[11:06] <ctkt05> no errors or dropped or overruns
[11:06] <Arkkis> I get also this: java.security.KeyStoreException: JKS at java.security.KeyStore.getInstance(libgcj.so.7)
[11:06] <wildbat> hello ~ anyone here knows how to use SKIM ? i got trouble using CangJie
[11:06] <aytch> Where are program files stored? I'm trying to install a plugin for xchat, and it says install to ~/xchat2/
[11:07] <CVirus> Arkkis: will you run it from terminal and paste me the output somewhere
[11:07] <Arkkis> sure
[11:07] <narvik86> ~ is your home directory
[11:08] <ctkt05> i may have found something on google about this
[11:08] <aytch> So I would need to create the /xchat/ directory?
[11:08] <narvik86> i'm not using xchat but maybe ~/.xchat2/ ?
[11:08] <aytch> yeah...~/.xchat2/ is what it says to install to...but there's no folder by that name.
[11:08] <aytch> Did I mention I'm new to this? :P
[11:08] <narvik86> aytch: it is hidden in konqueror
[11:09] <aytch> I see
[11:09] <narvik86> but type in konqueror address bar ~/.
[11:09] <narvik86> and it shoul show you all folders with . in name
[11:10] <aytch> Ahhh...thanks!
[11:10] <narvik86> aytch: no problem :)
[11:10] <nabz> anyone know how to install a kde theme?
[11:11] <narvik86> nabz: what theme?
[11:11] <narvik86> nabz: give me link and i will try
[11:11] <nabz> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22187
[11:11] <Arkkis> CVirus, http://paste.uni.cc/9232
[11:12] <nabz> the how to install bit.... i dont have the kdm folder :s
[11:12] <baskew> ctkt05: any luck?
[11:13] <TheGateKeeper> Bearcat: I am reasonable new to linux, and much as I like (k)ubuntu I must confess to being a little uncomfortable with their upgrade cycle, although it's easy, I am never 100% sure what it might break at the end of the process. I have been thinking about gentoo as a posible alternative, do you think Sourcemage would be a better bet??
[11:13] <ctkt05> still working it...
[11:13] <Arkkis> TheGateKeeper, if you're new to Linux, I'd prolly not recommend gentoo
[11:13] <ctkt05> this is what i found
[11:13] <ctkt05> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5690
[11:13] <Arkkis> altho, you do  learn a bit with it
[11:14] <ctkt05> talks about the exact problem ive got
[11:14] <Arkkis> and they do have nice wiki
[11:14] <ubuntu> bonjour tout le monde
[11:14] <narvik86> nabz: working
[11:14] <ctkt05> im still on step one, adding the "universe mirrors" or whatever haha
[11:14] <nabz> it worked?
[11:14] <DaSkreech> !fr
[11:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:15] <DaSkreech> Damn
[11:15] <Arkkis> CVirus, did you get the errormsg?
[11:15] <TheGateKeeper> Arkkis: it won't go on my main box untill I can successfully install it on my test box :-)
[11:15] <CVirus> Arkkis: thats the only post I found that has a similar problem and its not solved yet http://www.suseforums.net/lofiversion/index.php/t21635.html
[11:15] <narvik86> nabz: wait i will try other and then give you result :)
[11:16] <Arkkis> I'm definedly running it as root (as you can see =)
[11:16] <nabz> ok thanx =]
[11:16] <baskew> i have a feeling that you will not be able to ping the servers unless u have the ip
[11:16] <Arkkis> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7593.0;topicseen
[11:16] <Arkkis> that seems a bit similar to my problem
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> Arkkis: also not so wet behind the ears I can't help a few folks in hear, and have managed to pick up quite a few usefull tip bits of info :-)
[11:17] <Arkkis> CVirus, do I need to fiddle with java or something to get it working, I just installed it from the repository
[11:17] <Miko__> I'm trying everything but the command make menuconfig doesnt wrking
[11:17] <Miko__> working
[11:17] <Miko__> can anyone helb me
[11:17] <Miko__> i installed all programms for it
[11:18] <wildbat> hello ~ anyone here knows how to use SKIM ? i got trouble using CangJie
[11:18] <DaSkreech> Miko__: Why are you building your own kernel?
[11:18] <CVirus> Arkkis: I really dont know ... googling more though
[11:18] <ach> Miko__: your're trying to build an kernel?
[11:18] <DaSkreech> wildbat: not sure If you find out tell me I've been trying to battle it myself
[11:18] <Arkkis> thanks, I appreciate the effort, I'm kinda new to kubuntu
[11:18] <DaSkreech> wildbat: I wonder if the skim site would help?
[11:18] <baskew> ctkt05: i see they tell u to remove the ipv6 lines in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[11:19] <wildbat> DaSkreech: i tried ~ ... everytime i ctrl+space ~ nothing happen
[11:19] <Miko__> I want that the system is using my second core! so i want to modify the existing config and make the kernel new
[11:20] <CVirus> Arkkis: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Miko__: How about you apt-get install the smp kernel
[11:20] <baskew> ctkt05: good luck, i must go
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Miko__: THen you can have it working while you tinker?
[11:20] <Miko__> whats the name of the smp kernel??
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper> Arkkis: run accross this page: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:21] <Bearcat> TheGateKeeper: i do. We keep out our packages up todate. The latest version of kde was available a few hours after it was out
[11:21] <CVirus> Miko__: linux-smp
[11:21] <Miko__> ?
[11:21] <narvik86> nabz: install: sudo apt-get install kcontrol-kdmtheme   and then in system settings pick it and open *.bz2 file
[11:21] <DaSkreech> Miko__: What CPU do you have?
[11:21] <Bearcat> TheGateKeeper: the syntax is a lot simpler, and it's just cool to enter commands like  "dispell" and cast"
[11:22] <DaSkreech> Bearcat: fire lvl 5!
[11:22] <Bearcat> TheGateKeeper: i'm a regular contributer.
[11:22] <Bearcat> DaSkreech: indeed!
[11:22] <Miko__> I have got a centrino core duo
[11:22] <Miko__> in my notebook
[11:22] <Miko__> linux-686-smp - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.  /// its not for my cpu
[11:22] <CVirus> Arkkis: so ?
[11:22] <Arkkis> CVirus, installing
[11:22] <CVirus> Miko__: thats the right one
[11:23] <Bearcat> TheGateKeeper: we even have a great little script to help you write spells, which are very easy
[11:23] <Miko__> no not for my processor
[11:23] <Miko__> CVirus
[11:23] <CVirus> Miko__: thats what I'm using with my laptop
[11:23] <DaSkreech> Miko__: linux-686-smp
[11:23] <CVirus> Miko__: it is the correct one
[11:23] <Miko__> okay i will try
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> Bearcat: excellent :-)
[11:23] <Miko__> I hope it will work like the kernel now. everything is fine
[11:23] <CVirus> Miko__: Core Duo is a 686 kernel
[11:23] <Miko__> when not i will not come back :-D
[11:23] <CVirus> i mean a 686 proc
[11:24] <Miko__> Es mssen 52,8MB Archive geholt werden.
[11:24] <Miko__> Nach dem Auspacken werden 150MB Plattenplatz zustzlich benutzt.
[11:24] <Miko__> LOL
[11:24] <Miko__> 150 mb
[11:24] <Miko__> for the kernel?????
[11:24] <Miko__> oh archiv. data and kernel i think
[11:24] <Miko__> sorry
[11:24] <Arkkis> CVirus, okay, the installation took a long time, because.. ..kubuntu seems to reset my resolv.conf around midnight or something similar
[11:24] <Arkkis> so, my dns server gets erased
[11:25] <Arkkis> well serverip
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> Bearcat: once the weather closes in and we stop going out I will give it a try, I have bookmarked the web site, thanx for that :-)
[11:25] <CVirus> Arkkis: just take your time .. I'm always here
[11:25] <narvik86> nabz: it works with your theme, with that you gave me link
[11:25] <Miko__> must i do anything after apt-get install KERNEL ?
[11:25] <Miko__> must i take it in the menu.lst of grub?
[11:25] <Arkkis> CVirus, any toughts on the reset of the resolv.conf?
[11:25] <CVirus> Miko__: just reboot into it
[11:25] <DaSkreech> Miko__: it does that by itself
[11:25] <Miko__> okay just reboot
[11:25] <CVirus> Miko__: apt will add it automatically
[11:25] <CVirus> Arkkis: no really
[11:25] <Miko__> I like linux, its so easy
[11:26] <narvik86> :)
[11:26] <Miko__> but its so different from windows. a big change because windows is unlogical
[11:26] <CVirus> we'll see about that later on
[11:26] <Miko__> Where do you all come from?
[11:26] <DaSkreech> !fr
[11:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:27] <CVirus> I'm from Egypt
[11:27] <narvik86> !pl
[11:27] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:27] <CVirus> !eg
[11:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about eg - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:27] <CVirus> LOL
[11:27] <Miko__> !de
[11:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:27] <narvik86> Poland
[11:27] <the-erm> shift+space .... anyone know how to turn the foreign character set that comes up?
[11:27] <foot> Bearcat:  I am back
[11:27] <foot> Befor a limited time
[11:27] <the-erm> It only happens on gtk apps.  Like gaim, and firefox.
[11:28] <the-erm> s/turn/turn off
[11:28] <Arkkis> !fi
[11:28] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[11:28] <Arkkis> whoa
[11:29] <Miko__> !ru
[11:29] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:32] <foot> Bearcat: heelloooo?
[11:32] <Arkkis> CVirus, nope does not seem to help
[11:32] <neuraloverload> hello everyone
[11:33] <Miko__> How can i play a mms videostream with linux?
[11:33] <CVirus> Arkkis: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:34] <Neural_Overload> This is probably one of the most commonly asked questions from noobs but... How do you enable mp3 support for amarok?
[11:34] <narvik86> Miko__: mplayer can handle it
[11:34] <CVirus> Arkkis: so
[11:34] <CVirus> ?
[11:35] <Arkkis> CVirus, seems to work thousands of times better, thank you man!
[11:35] <aytch> Neural_Overload: I just used synaptic to update my libmad0, and it worked.
[11:36] <aytch> I'm using a different distro, though, so it may be different for you.
[11:36] <Neural_Overload> Hmm
[11:36] <Neural_Overload> Im using Kubuntu 6.06.1
[11:37] <CVirus> Arkkis: you're more than welcomed
[11:37] <aytch> I'm using Mepis 6, but I think both of them use Synaptic.
[11:37] <Neural_Overload> Yeah
[11:37] <Miko__> narvik86 i cant install mplayer
[11:38] <Bearcat> foot: hello
[11:38] <Bearcat> foot: keep in mind, i'm also at work so i'll answer as i can
[11:38] <foot> Bearcat: so what exactly am I triying to do here?
[11:38] <narvik86> Miko__: why not? enabled ropositories?
[11:38] <foot> Bearcat: yup
[11:39] <the-erm> Miko__: you need to set up your /etc/sources.list  http://blog.the-erm.com/index.php/archives/170#more-170
[11:39] <darekdmp> jest tu jakis polak?
[11:39] <the-erm> Miko__: mplayer truly rocks.  imo
[11:40] <Neural_Overload> Hmm...
[11:40] <Neural_Overload> How do i update things using synaptic?
[11:40] <darekdmp> poprawka. jest tu jakas polka?
[11:40] <narvik86> Miko__: or try ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:40] <narvik86> darekdmp: polak tak
[11:41] <foot> Bearcat: r u on the same page with me as far as where and what I am supposed to be doing?
[11:41] <djordje> Hi to all
[11:42] <DaSkreech> Neural_Overload: Install libxine-extracodecs
[11:42] <Bearcat> foot: yes
[11:42] <djordje> i have problem with kubuntu. can someone help me?
[11:42] <DaSkreech> !pl
[11:42] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:43] <narvik86> djordje: describe it, and we will try
[11:43] <Neural_Overload> DaSkreech: I have tried, but its not listed in synaptic, and in apt-get it says that its probably outdated
[11:43] <foot> Bearcat: ok so I am to move a file... where? how? mv ~/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./' is to move the file where? '
[11:43] <DaSkreech> Neural_Overload: are you on kubuntu?
[11:43] <Neural_Overload> Yeap
[11:43] <djordje> well it i made a mistake
[11:43] <djordje> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:43] <Bearcat> foot: notice that those commands begin with a "~" that means the commands are actually "sudo mv /home/lovely/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./" if ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz is not in your home dir they won't work
[11:43] <djordje> and remove some software like konqeror
[11:44] <Bearcat> foot: ",/" means current directory
[11:44] <DaSkreech> Neural_Overload: So howcome you aren't using adept?
[11:44] <djordje> and now, i don't know how to install konqereor
 dlaczego ubuntu lub kubuntu ?-porownanie.
[11:44] <Bearcat> so you have to sudo cd /usr/src
[11:44] <Neural_Overload> DaSkreech: I dunno, cause im a noob?
[11:44] <Neural_Overload> Lol
[11:44] <narvik86> djordje: try to install it manually
[11:44] <Bearcat> foot: so you have to sudo cd /usr/src first
[11:44] <foot> Bearcat: right and they are in the home/lovely so the get moved into the current dir
[11:45] <foot> Bearcat:root@Hermes:/usr/src#
[11:45] <narvik86> darekdmp: ?? bo sie przyzwyczailem w auroxie do kde :) teraz sciagam xubuntu i zobacze czy bardzo szybsze jest
[11:45] <Bearcat> foot: cool
[11:46] <foot> Bearcat: mv: cannot stat `/root/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[11:46] <Neural_Overload> DaSkreech: I believe ive enabled all the repositorys for adept, i type in libxine and libxine-extracodecs isnt listed anywhere.
[11:46] <foot> Bearcat: so this means I need to add the home lovely so that it can find the file?
[11:46] <Bearcat> are they in /root?
[11:46] <narvik86> darekdmp: ze wzgledu na reopzytoria, odkad mam net mam kubuntu, wczesniej aurox bo mialem mase pakietow na dvd
[11:47] <foot> Bearcat: /home/lovely
[11:48] <Bearcat> foot: oh, they are?
[11:48] <darekdmp> od kiedy mialem kompa to tylko dos i win... ciezko jest przejsc i sie przestawic dla laika
[11:48] <Neural_Overload> Ive tried installing this, but still nothing happens...
[11:48] <Neural_Overload> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[11:48] <Bearcat> foot:  give me an ls of those files please
[11:49] <foot> Bearcat: yes, on the first page I was following that is where they werre designated they should go.
[11:49] <foot> Bearcat: ls /home/lovely    ?
[11:50] <djordje> narvik, how to install manually, i tryed sudo apt-get install konqeror, but it depend on other packeges
[11:50] <Neural_Overload> DaSkreech: You there?
[11:51] <darekdmp> narvik86 wyskoczylo mi cos -[505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[11:52] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20330
[11:53] <soulrider> oh my
[11:53] <soulrider> my klicker crashed
[11:53] <soulrider> and i dont know how to start it
[11:53] <soulrider> i enabled transparency and everythign crashed
[11:53] <soulrider> any ideas
[11:53] <CVirus> soulrider: klicker or kicker ?
[11:53] <soulrider> errr
[11:53] <soulrider> the bar at the bottom
[11:53] <foot> Bearcat: I will have to move the /pvr48wdm_1.8.22037.exe  as it is on my desktop
[11:54] <CVirus> soulrider: alt + f2 .. a window will open ... type konsole and hit enter ... a concole will open .. type kicker and hit enter
[11:54] <narvik86> OrthodoxCelt: trying to do this...
[11:54] <soulrider> yea..t he thing is
[11:55] <soulrider> it crashes when i open it :P
[11:55] <soulrider> i think im gonna have to delete the config
[11:56] <CVirus> soulrider: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kicker
[11:56] <soulrider> what does that do ?
[11:56] <soulrider> :
[11:56] <CVirus> soulrider: will reconfigure your kicker
[11:56] <soulrider> its back
[11:56] <soulrider> :):):)
[11:56] <CVirus> soulrider: RTFM
[11:56] <soulrider> thanks =D
[11:56] <CVirus> ;-)
[11:57] <soulrider> RTFM?
[11:57] <CVirus> no problem
[11:57] <CVirus> Read The Fine Manual about what dpkg-reconfigure does
[11:57] <wildbat> anyone knows any goo codec pack like (k-lite maga) in win dows?
[11:59] <narvik86> OrthodoxCelt: don''t have idea with this konqueror, sorry
[11:59] <andreas_> hat hier jemand x11r7.1 installiert?
[12:00] <Bearcat> foot: ok. notice that the commands on the page are "sudo mv ~/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./" and sudo "mv ~/pvr48wdm_1.8.22037.exe ./"
[12:00] <foot> yes, but I am operating as root
[12:01] <Bearcat> foot are you changing the version numbers in the commands to match those of the files you have?
[12:01] <foot> Bearcat: nope, guess that would matter eh.
[12:01] <Bearcat> yeah
 caly czas [505]
[12:03] <Bearcat> foot: my client died :/
[12:03] <foot> Bearcat: I will play TAPS
[12:03] <Bearcat> foot: lol. Anway, you get it now, right
[12:03] <foot> Bearcat: almost
[12:04] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20332
[12:08] <foot> Bearcat: ahh heck I gotta leave again. I will be out for around 2 hours. possibly see you on tonight.
[12:08] <foot> Bearcat: I know this is simple, but I am reaining clam ;}