[17:54] <hggdh> !lowlatency
[17:54] <hggdh> !no lowlatency is <reply> The lowlatency kernel is a special Ubuntu kernel build with modifications for systems which require low latency when communicating with some hardware, such as some Audio devices. Included with Ubuntu Studio by default.
[17:55] <hggdh> !no rt is <reply> the RT kernel is the Linux kernel with a realtime preemption patch applied. It is not available in Ubuntu. See also !lowllatency
[21:59] <valorie> all calmed down now


[00:32] <Laibsch1> I'm trying to recompile gimp 2.6 for trusty (I hate the new 2.8 interface and its impedance to simple workflows).  I run into http://paste.debian.net/94136/  How can I fix that?  I'm basing my work on the https://launchpad.net/~malcscott/+archive/gimp-2.6/ PPA that compiled gimp 2.6 for saucy and raring.
[06:42] <dholbach> good morning
[08:08] <Laney> happy distro-info-data outdated day
[08:08] <Laney> :-)
[08:25] <kdeuser56> it seems there are some major problems with linux-crashdump package
[08:26] <kdeuser56> 1.) it does not get enabled by default ... /etc/default/kdump-tools  does set 0 and comment out vital options to make it work
[08:27] <kdeuser56> (according to the wiki installing linux-crashdump and reboot should make it work, which is apperently not the default behavior with the current package)
[08:27] <kdeuser56>  cat /sys/kernel/kexec_crash_loaded will show 0 after reboot
[08:28] <kdeuser56> So I manually enabled the options in /etc/default/kdump-tools and rebooted
[08:28] <kdeuser56> now  cat /sys/kernel/kexec_crash shows 1
[08:29] <kdeuser56> dmesg | grep -i crash does not indicate memory has been reserved for the crash kernel
[08:30] <kdeuser56> simulating a kernel crash just freezes the system, no kernel is started
[08:30] <kdeuser56> only a kexec_cmd can be found in /var/crash afterwards
[08:37] <dholbach> jamesh, happy birthday! :)
[08:37] <zyga> kdeuser56: I'
[08:38] <zyga> kdeuser56: I'm not sure that's the case but I believe we disable some kernel crash debugging for non-development releases
[08:38] <kdeuser56> zyga: ?
[08:39] <kdeuser56> zyga: my install is from the daily image days
[08:39] <kdeuser56> zyga: okay how to enable it?
[08:41] <kdeuser56> zyga: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html do not confirm what you say
[08:47] <seb128> mardy, hey, could you have a look to bug #1194465 and reassign it if needed? it's a segfault in libsignon-glib, could be a bug in the client code or in the lib...
[08:47] <mardy> seb128: OK
[08:47] <seb128> mardy, thanks
[08:47] <kdeuser56> zyga: do you know who to ping in order to get help?
[08:51] <zyga> kdeuser56: I don't know, I'm sorry
[08:51] <kdeuser56> zyga: does it work for you?
[08:52] <zyga> kdeuser56: I don't use that
[08:54] <kdeuser56> guy with the same problem http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/459540 no solution :-(
[09:09] <hyperair> yay i has non-fugly chromium again.
[09:15] <infinity> happyaron: That ubuntukylin-default-settings doesn't actually contain the change it claims to.
[09:16] <happyaron> infinity: re-uploading
[09:17] <infinity> happyaron: So, uhm.  We had planned to release in hours.  Did you really want to respin and retest all your images?
[09:17] <infinity> happyaron: Well, all two of them.
[09:17] <happyaron> infinity: that really depends on the will of JackYu, not mine.
[09:17] <cjwatson> JackYu didn't answer that question when I asked them on #-release
[09:18] <infinity> :(
[09:18] <cjwatson> So it's kind of hard to tell what their will is
[09:18] <kdeuser56> sudo kdump-config load gives me "efi memory descriptor version 0 is not supported!"
[09:18] <jamesh> dholbach: thanks!
[09:19] <infinity> kdeuser56: ubuntu-bug kdump-tools
[09:19] <kdeuser56> infinity: any idea what I could try?
[09:19] <happyaron> cjwatson: they asked me in #ubuntukylin-devel for uploading
[09:19] <infinity> kdeuser56: You could try filing a bug.
[09:20] <cjwatson> happyaron: yeah, that's not quite the same thing as a multi-hour respin cycle
[09:20] <kdeuser56> infinity: always instantly filing a bug without doing research is bad behavior
[09:20] <infinity> happyaron: Can you determine if they really intend for a respin (about an hour from now, it would be), and then re-validating the ISOs, all within, say, 2/3 hours?
[09:20] <cjwatson> bug 1308889 is pretty bad for polish, I'll grant
[09:21] <happyaron> infinity: let me ask again
[09:22] <infinity> cjwatson: I totally read your sentence as Polish, not polish, and was monumentally confused.
[09:22] <happyaron> infinity: they say yes.
[09:23] <infinity> happyaron: Alright.  Let's shove this through as quickly as we can manage, then.
[09:27] <maclin> infinity，yeap, we want to check the problem before final release. We will re-validating the ISO asap
[10:07] <cjwatson> rbasak: it looks as though mod-auth-mysql has been ported, and it's in trusty; see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mod-auth-mysql/+changelog.  Do we still need to proceed with bug 1278995?
[10:08] <cjwatson> dead upstream or not, it's useful enough that I'm sort of inclined to keep it if it's working
[10:14] <jibel> mvo, could you look at bug 1308657 ? it is another multiarch upgrade issue similar to grep:i386 but in this case apt prefers to upgrade the foreign arch than native and fails to find an upgrade path.
[10:19] <mvo> jibel: I have seen it, I'm a bit unsure what to do about it
[10:21] <mvo> jibel: but let me have another look right now
[10:21] <mvo> jibel: (and thanks for making me aware of the issue)
[10:24] <maclin> infinity, ubuntukylin-default-settings becomes ready, should we request a rebuild now?
[10:26] <infinity> maclin: I'm going to rebuild for you in a just a second when the mirror settles.
[10:27] <maclin> infinity, nice, thanks a lot:)
[10:34] <rbasak> cjwatson: I'm not sure if it's working. When I looked, I got the impression that it would be functionally broken without a significant port, due to API changes
[10:35] <rbasak> xnox: ^^ any thoughts? Do we have something that builds now, but is actually functionally broken?
[10:37] <xnox> rbasak: which package / bug are you talking about?
[10:38] <rbasak> xnox: sorry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mod-auth-mysql/+bug/1278995. See backscroll.
[10:39] <rbasak> xnox: looks like you fixed the FTBFS, but when I looked previously I left it because it looked like more major changes were needed to get it functional with Apache 2.4.
[10:39] <xnox> rbasak: right, i found patch on upstream bug tracker and fixed FTBFS, because that was quickest way to complete a transition or some such.
[10:40] <xnox> rbasak: if it's buggy we can sru fixes for it.
[10:40] <xnox> rbasak: no need to remove it.
[10:42] <rbasak> xnox: ok. cjwatson: I'll mark the bug invalid, thanks.
[11:02] <cjwatson> jamespage: do we still want to do bug 1252375?  the samba migration issues seem to have been long since solved
[11:03] <cjwatson> (by way of Depends: samba (>= 4) | samba4, apparently)
[11:03] <infinity> happyaron / maclin: Your images are done, please test in a hurry.
[11:04] <jamespage> cjwatson, hmmm - I don't actually have any way of confirming that its functional
[11:04] <happyaron> infinity: thanks!
[11:05] <infinity> happyaron: Please do make sure it's done very quickly, I intend to push things our quite soon.
[11:05] <infinity> s/our/out/
[11:05] <happyaron> ok
[11:05] <cjwatson> xnox: similarly, Adam fixed node-stringprep's build a day after you filed bug 1264691 - do we still need that?
[11:05] <maclin> infinity, thanks, we will do the test asap
[11:05] <infinity> maclin: Ta.
[11:06] <xnox> cjwatson: mark invalid.
[11:06] <cjwatson> xnox: ok, will do, thanks
[11:06] <cjwatson> jamespage: I guess if there's doubt I'd prefer to leave it in its current state and maybe SRU fixes
[11:07] <cjwatson> running out of time :)
[11:07] <jamespage> cjwatson, ok - leave it in then
[11:09] <maclin> infinity, there are no zsync file?
[11:11] <maclin> infinity,  I get an error when download the image:  The requested URL /ubuntukylin/daily-live/20140417.1/trusty-desktop-i386.iso was not found on this server
[11:11] <cjwatson> infinity: did you let the Mythbuntu people know to mirror their images, btw?
[11:26] <infinity> cjwatson: Who was asking for that?
[11:26] <infinity> cjwatson: They should probably also *test* their images. :P
[11:28] <cjwatson> infinity: tgm4883 and Daviey
[11:34] <JackYu> hi infinity, the images of 20140417.1 for Ubuntu Kylin is still not ready, according to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntukylin/daily-live/
[11:35] <cjwatson> odd, no obvious rsync activity on nusakan
[11:36] <JackYu> infinity, cjwatson, should we rebuild it again?
[11:36] <cjwatson> no no no no no no no no no
[11:37] <cjwatson> zaniah has plenty of space, though it is pretty low on inodes
[11:37] <cjwatson> but there are only 5000-odd files on cdimage; that can't be making a huge dent there
[11:38] <cjwatson> I've poked another sync to see if that helps
[11:38] <cjwatson> oh, there we go, either that worked or it had caught up by itself just before
[11:38] <cjwatson> JackYu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntukylin/daily-live/20140417.1/ looks fine now
[11:38] <infinity> \o/
[11:39] <cjwatson> JackYu: for reference, hitting rebuild for this kind of internal mirroring thing will be actively counterproductive, so please don't reach for that first
[11:39] <JackYu> wow, great!
[11:39] <JackYu> cjwatson, sure:)
[13:25] <stokachu> if there is one script in a package that depends on python2 and the rest is python3 is it acceptable to use a Depends: python2 for just that package containing the file?
[13:31] <hallyn> bdmurray: hi, the libvirt saucy-proposed addressed 4 bugs;  3 are verification-done, one apparently is not fixed, but nothing regressed.  i think security team wants to push something.
[13:31] <hallyn> bdmurray: can we promote the libvirt to -updates, or should i push a new package without the 4th (unverified) fix?
[13:31] <hallyn> (in which case i'd do it after security teampushes a new one)
[14:04] <infinity> maclin: Are you happy with your ISOs?
[14:06] <maclin> infinity, sorry that we are still syncing the ISOs. the network is so slow...
[14:07] <infinity> maclin: I see lots of tests registered for your ISOs, so someone has tested them, I assume...
[14:07] <infinity> maclin: But no one's marked them ready.
[14:07] <maclin> we have submit test results of 20140417 ISO.
[14:11] <maclin> I cannot confirm wheather the new ISOs would be downloaded before I mark the tracker ready.  So the results are submitted.
[14:24] <anas98999> Hi
[14:24] <LocutusOfBorg1> Hi people! ready for the release?
[14:26] <jayaura> bad news http://geebzor.com/tech/linux/canonical-delays-release-of-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr/
[14:27] <jayaura> well I dont know if this is authentic, someone posted that in the other channel
[14:28] <cjwatson> it's nonsense
[14:28] <cjwatson> and please don't pollute #ubuntu-devel with #u-r-p madness :)
[14:28] <mdeslaur> hehe
[14:29] <Laney> cjwatson: Would you please voice me in #-release
[14:30] <AndroUser> Hola
[14:31] <cjwatson> done
[14:31] <Laney> ta
[14:44] <bdmurray> hallyn: how are you certain that libvirt has not regressed?
[14:44] <hallyn> bdmurray: 3 other verification-done's with no regressions reported? :)
[14:45] <hallyn> bdmurray: the one which was not verified was the scaries one so if you want to drop it i'm ok with that
[14:45] <hallyn> scariest
[14:45] <hallyn> let's just do that.
[14:45] <hallyn> mdeslaur: ^ you have something to push for libvirt saucy-security?
[14:45] <hallyn> pls just drop what's in -proposed
[14:46] <mdeslaur> hallyn: eventually, yes
[14:46] <mdeslaur> hallyn: it can still wait a while if there's a chance someone will verify it
[14:48] <hallyn> mdeslaur: no verification failed on one out of 4.  so i'll have to re-push a version with only the other 3.
[14:48] <hallyn> bdmurray: ^ after that do the three bugs need to be re-verified?
[14:49] <bdmurray> hallyn: hmm, I'm not positive.
[15:00] <hallyn> bdmurray: well i pushed a new one without the bad fix.  reverification should be simple actually.  is smb around to re-verify bug #1248025 ?
[15:02] <smb> hallyn, I am around
[15:06] <smb> hallyn, So I should look at 1.1.1-0ubuntu8.9
[15:11] <hallyn> smb: no
[15:11] <hallyn> .10, if bdmurray accepts it
[15:11] <smb> Ah ok
[15:13] <tych0> hi all, i have a package that has both python2 and python3 code in it (related to upstream stuff that we're gluing together; I can't change either)
[15:13] <tych0> is there a nice way to include these both in the same source package?
[15:13] <tych0> or do i need two separate source packages?
[15:19] <smb> hallyn, ok. I got a guest ready which shows to issue with current updates version. So I can verify when you yell (after it gets accepted) :)
[15:21] <hallyn> smb: thanks
[15:21] <hallyn> zul: bug 1304167 i intend to push a new libvirt as soon as trusty is open for srus.  do you have anything to add?
[15:31] <zul> hallyn:  nope
[15:32] <hallyn> ok i'll just push it now then
[15:49] <hallyn> infinity: if i'm pushing somethingn for trusty-proposed, i don't gum up the works for release at all do i?
[15:49] <hallyn> i.e. shoudl i wait a few hours?
[15:53] <infinity> hallyn: You can upload it.
[15:53] <hallyn> thx
[15:57] <xnox> infinity: hallyn: wrong version number, it should be 1.2.2-0ubuntu13.1 for an sru?! =)
[15:57] <hallyn> gah
[15:57] <hallyn> xnox: well to be fair i expect the first t+1 upload to be 1.2.3 by zul :)
[15:58] <xnox> hallyn: might be ok, just being pedantic =)
[15:58] <hallyn> i assume you've rejected?
[15:58] <hallyn> no no i'll reupload
[15:58] <xnox> hallyn: i am nobody
[15:58] <hallyn> pshaw
[15:58] <infinity> hallyn: I'll reject for you.
[15:58] <hallyn> thanks
[15:58]  * hallyn hangs his head in shame.  again
[15:58] <zyga> hey, when will u-series archive open?
[15:59] <hallyn> bah, i'm mor einterested in what follows z, and what sort of names can we do starting  with 'aa' :)
[16:10] <hjd> hallyn: aardvark? :)
[16:12] <hallyn> yeah but for an adj?  maybe we should switch to dutch
[17:36] <smb> hallyn, Is libvirt for Saucy getting in foreseeable future?
[17:36] <smb> in in ...
[17:36] <hallyn> bdmurray: ^
[17:39] <bdmurray> hallyn: accepting
[17:39] <hallyn> thanks
[17:40] <hallyn> smb said he'll verify asap today, i'll verify the other bug today as well
[17:40] <hallyn> so hopefully we can get this thing done
[17:41]  * smb jsut grabs a bite while things are building
[17:44] <jcw4> Is this the right channel to ask about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdb/+bug/1258642
[17:48] <dobey> jcw4: that sounds like it might be an upstream python issue?
[17:49] <jcw4> I guess.. on my machine I don't even seem to have python3 installed
[17:49] <jcw4> and certainly not the files mentioned in the workaround
[17:49] <jcw4> or the patches
[17:49] <dobey> then what's the issue?
[17:49] <dobey> are you on 12.04 or something?
[17:50] <jcw4> dobey: uh. yeah I think so.
[17:50] <jcw4> :(
[17:50] <jcw4> Isn't that the latest LTS
[17:50] <Meerkat> it is.
[17:50] <dobey> no
[17:50] <dobey> 14.04 is now :)
[17:51] <dobey> welcome to release day
[17:51] <Meerkat> !isitout
[17:52] <jcw4> lol
[17:52] <dobey> well, python3 is installable on 12.04 as well, it's in the archives, i just don't think it's installed by default on 12.04
[17:52] <jcw4> actually I am on 13.10
[17:52] <jcw4> I thought I was on 12.04
[17:52] <dobey> oh
[17:52] <dobey> on 13.10, python3 is definitely installed by default
[17:53] <jcw4> S 10:52:31 [0]$ python --version
[17:53] <jcw4> Python 2.7.5+
[17:53] <jcw4> I certainly didn't change any python packages myself
[17:53] <dobey> "python" will never be "python3"
[17:53] <dobey> you have to use "python3" not "pythoN"
[17:53]  * jcw4 smacks forehead
[17:54] <jcw4> okay so I have python3 but I don't have the printers.py file referenced in the fix
[17:55] <jcw4> dobey: thanks.  It sounds like I'll need to try and rebuild gdb
[17:56] <dobey> jcw4: /usr/share/gdb/python/gdb/printing.py is probably the file referenced
[17:56] <dobey> or maybe not
[17:57] <jcw4> dobey: I'll look for that... locate printing.py didn't work for me before
[17:57] <jcw4> ah, but after doing updatedb it did
[17:57] <smb> hallyn, Ok, verification done for bug 1248025
[17:58] <hallyn> smb: wow it built already?
[17:58] <hallyn> awesome, thanks
[17:58]  * hallyn goes to verify the other
[17:58] <smb> hallyn, amd64 yes
[17:59] <tarpman> jcw4: didn't the error message from gdb mention the full path to the script causing the problem?
[17:59] <jcw4> dobey: I did "2to3 -w printing.py" but that doesn't seem to have fixed the problem
[18:00] <jcw4> tarpman: yes, but the patch in the bugreport applied to the printing.py file not the file with the syntax error
[18:01] <dobey> no idead
[18:01] <dobey> idea
[18:01] <jcw4> dobey thanks for your help
[18:01] <jcw4> :)
[18:05] <hallyn> smb: bdmurray: verified bug 1287232
[18:10] <tarpman> jcw4: replied to you on the bug
[18:12] <jcw4> tarpman: hmm.  The patch wasn't for the same file as the error... my error was identical to the one in the original bug report
[18:14] <jcw4> tarpman you're right I'm sorryy
[18:14] <jcw4> I confused Martin Olssons comment with the original report
[18:15] <tarpman> jcw4: that makes more sense. :) so yeah, you'd need a different patch for go's pretty-printer than for the libstdc++ pretty-printer
[18:17] <jcw4> tarpman thanks
[18:20] <dobey>  the web site has 14.04 iso download now, btw
[18:21]  * dobey favors do-release-upgrade though
[18:21] <jcastro> well done everyone! Here's to another 5 years of trusty!
[18:21] <mvo_> yeah!
[18:35] <hallyn> it appears the default vmware vga mem size for pc-1.0 machine type has gone down from qemu-kvm to qemu (precise to raring+).  i.e. bug 1308756.  is it too late to add something to the release notes?
[18:35] <hallyn> zul: jamespage: ^
[18:36] <hallyn> eh, i'll add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[18:36] <hallyn> i don't know if that seeds anything else
[21:57] <bdmurray> robru: Do you know why the account-plugins version is different in the saucy proposed queue from the one in the sru staging ppa?
[22:29] <chek2fire> hello. Why bitcoin-qt is not in the new version of ubuntu?
[22:29] <chek2fire> is an open source programme why you have get out of the official repositories?
[22:30] <tarpman> chek2fire: see the thread starting at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2013-December/007597.html
[22:31] <ogra_> chek2fire, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2013-December/007597.html
[22:31] <ogra_> hah
[22:31] <tarpman> ogra_: ^5
[22:31] <ogra_> :)
[22:31] <chek2fire> yes but is a new technology and open source
[22:33] <ogra_> chek2fire, but it is not nice to not respect the will of the developer of that opensource software
[22:33] <chek2fire> i think is not nice when you dont follow a new technology like bitcoin
[22:33] <chek2fire> and you drop it
[22:34] <ogra_> even if the developer asks you to drop it because he considers his software nnot ready for wider distribution yet
[22:34] <ogra_> ?
[22:35] <chek2fire> bitcoin is not for spread to public?
[22:35] <chek2fire> ready*
[22:35] <sarnold> bitcoin is not ready to be frozen for five years.
[22:35] <ogra_> did you read the mail ?
[22:35] <chek2fire> yes i have
[22:35] <chek2fire> this decision is only for lts versions?
[22:36] <ogra_> you have to ask the developer of the software
[22:37] <ogra_> the mail offers how to install it from them
[22:37] <ogra_> so they are not bound to the distro release schedule
[22:37] <chek2fire> ok thx i hope ppa maintainer will release the new bug fix version 0.9.1 without the hearbleed bug
[22:37] <ogra_> s/offers/describes/
[22:38] <sarnold> ugh, I hope they don't bundle their own openssl
[22:38] <sarnold> they should just rely upon the system-supplied openssl
[22:39] <ogra_> right
[22:43] <tarpman> the debs in the bitcoin ppa appear (at a glance) to use the system libssl
[22:44] <chek2fire> a ok
[22:44] <chek2fire> for that is not need for an update?
[22:44] <ogra_> 14.04 is safe ... and older releases got it with security system upgrades
[22:45] <chek2fire> yes i have get the update and now in bitcoin channel they told me that is better bitcoin-qt to has its own ppa
[22:45] <chek2fire> is more safe
[22:45] <chek2fire> ok thx again for the info and sorry :)
[22:46] <chek2fire> and keep the great work with ubuntu guys
[22:46] <chek2fire> i use the distro 8+ years now
[22:46] <chek2fire> kubuntu mostly.. :P
[23:00] <sarnold> chek2fire: thanks :) have fun


[15:41] <cmaloney> https://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-mi/4113-ubuntu-2104-hirsute-hippo-release-party/
[16:45] <jrwren> Hirsute is such a great adjective.
[16:52] <cmaloney> Definitely underutilized


[07:51] <dholbach> good morning
[09:03] <highvoltage> good morning dholbach
[09:05] <dholbach> hey highvoltage
[09:05] <dholbach> how are you doing?
[09:21] <highvoltage> dholbach: good thanks! and you?
[09:24] <dholbach> I'm doing alright, almost done with my dose of Rallyflu and now trying to get some speaker together for UDW
[09:39] <highvoltage> what's Rallyflu? medicine for flu? I saw you mentioning something about not feeling well on facebook a few days ago
[09:48] <dholbach> we were at the Platform team Rally (formerly called Sprint), that's where I think I got a flu :)