[20:29] <joze> hello there
[20:29] <CannibalM> very much so case sensitive.
[20:29] <chickenFuego> ok burnerwarrior008 fine.
[20:29] <Ulfalizer> look for installation instrutions
[20:29] <CannibalM> I learned that the hard way in the beginning
[20:29] <burnerwarrior008> chickenFuego ok, what u need, ill post it?
[20:29] <joze> can someone tell mee for any command line msn clients? the most known would be great. ??
[20:29] <ouellettesr> anyone know how to transfer a file with telnet
[20:29] <zer0bit> Starnestommy, sir, firstly, is it a good idea to change over to linux from windows =/
[20:29] <peace> ill go try some magic..
[20:29] <`David> i did
[20:29] <ShakQ> lol cannibal
[20:29] <chickenFuego> iwconfig wlan0
[20:29] <chickenFuego> ifconfig
[20:29] <Ulfalizer> peace: good luck :)
[20:29] <chickenFuego> iwlist scan
[20:29] <`David> and i got same erroe
[20:29] <chickenFuego> lsmod
[20:29] <RomeReactor> joze: try purple or centericq
[20:30] <russk> CannibalM: i did not receive email add
[20:30] <Starnestommy> zer0bit: unless you do a lot of gaming or multimedia editing, linux is usually better.
[20:31] <burnerwarrior008> chickenFuego ok, ill take a minute to paste that all ;)
[20:31] <smacky> i need help with this text file i wrote i save it in my home folder then i type sudo chmod +x ./ mkiso  and nothing happens
[20:31] <Starnestommy> smacky: remove the space after the ./
[20:31] <hwilde_> don't type ./
[20:31] <zer0bit> Starnestommy .. I usually just browse the web, and I am into lot of authering on web etc but not into grafix and multimedia, though I do download a lot of data from torrent networks and emule networks
[20:31] <smacky> ok
[20:31] <`David> greasy_leftwing
[20:31] <zef> hi
[20:31] <jatz> hey, mencoder question
[20:31] <greasy_leftwing> yeh looking
[20:32] <greasy_leftwing> its not where I expected it to be
[20:32] <jatz> does Mencoder auto crop black bars from dvds?
[20:32] <jatz> can I make it not?
[20:32] <zef> i try to install ubuntu on external hard drive
[20:32] <Starnestommy> zer0bit: that's pretty much what I do
[20:32] <smacky> chmod: cannot access `/mkiso': No such file or directory
[20:32] <smacky> smacky@smacky-desktop:~$
[20:32] <Starnestommy> smacky: ./mkiso
[20:32] <zef> i try to install ubuntu on external hard drive when i try to boot it display boot error
[20:33] <llama_> heyy
[20:33] <greasy_leftwing> looks like you cant alter the primary partition under XP
[20:33] <greasy_leftwing> it wont let you split it
[20:33] <greasy_leftwing> basically cos youre currently using it
[20:33] <zer0bit> Starnestommy, so linux supports torrents ?
[20:33] <peace> anybody remembers my problem... eh.. im quite tired of linux magic :(
[20:33] <zef> so from gparted i try to open the file menu.lst on the grub folder
[20:33] <Starnestommy> zer0bit: yes
[20:33] <zer0bit> Starnestommy and emule network ?
[20:33] <Starnestommy> and yes
[20:33] <llama_> yeah i install ubuntu over xp be accident lol
[20:33] <Lasivian> anyone ever gotten an orinoco card working on Ubuntu?
[20:33] <`David> so what can i do then? any ideas?
[20:33] <chickenFire> soory back burnerwarrior008
[20:34] <zef> and there i see this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58416/
[20:34] <chickenFire> so your pastbins?
[20:34] <greasy_leftwing> my suggestion would be to get another HDD, put it on that and switch between boots either by way of the bootloader - GRUB or the bios settings
[20:34] <zef> can anyone can check if it's configured correctly
[20:34] <peace> after sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ||| i was in prompt??? black screen.. tried sudo password...tried cd Desktop.. no command was working...
[20:34] <zer0bit> Starnestommy now, i got stumped at the ubuntu website .. 4 versions are there.. as a newbie, how do i decide which one i want ? there is no comparison chart of each version there
[20:34] <zef> ubuntu install on sdb3 partition
[20:34] <chickenFire> burnerwarrior008, in the meantime, just try "wext" for wpa option in wifi-radar, ok?
[20:34] <greasy_leftwing> or overwrite your current system with linux and use a VM to get windows runnign when you need it
[20:34] <`David> i don't have any really big hdds
[20:34] <greasy_leftwing> dont need anything really big tbh
[20:34] <smacky> working thanks alot
[20:35] <`David> how much does it take to run ubuntu
[20:35] <ShakQ> david, just run ur live CD and do a manual partitioning
[20:35] <greasy_leftwing> you can still access your other drives
[20:35] <RomeReactor> peace: run: ls
[20:35] <`David> i trtied ShakQ
[20:35] <Lasivian> `David: If you have an older system try Xubuntu
[20:35] <ShakQ> and what happened?
[20:35] <`David> same error
[20:35] <Starnestommy> zer0bit: which editions are there?
[20:35] <`David> its not that old tho
[20:35] <ShakQ> sorry, i missed that, whats the error?
[20:36] <`David> "error writing to disk aborting..."
[20:36] <`David> this mobo is from 02 or 03 and the hdd on this is only 40gigs =[
[20:36] <densone> anyone here that can  give me recommendation on which OpenLDAP WebUI to use?
[20:36] <Starnestommy> zer0bit: ubuntu, xuubntu, kubuntu, and edubuntu?
[20:36] <Starnestommy> *xubuntu
[20:36] <zer0bit> Starnestommy ku, edu, xu, go  .. all suffixed ubuntu sir  ( i still say some one please pm me, i am too new for linux and would not want to distrub serious channel of geeks with my n00b Qs )
[20:36] <Lasivian> i'm trying to enable monitor mode for an Orinoco card :/
[20:36] <`David> its hard buying new equipment when unemployed lol
[20:36] <chickenFire> burnerwarrior008, still here?
[20:37] <Starnestommy> zer0bit: regular ubuntu is probably best
[20:37] <aricz> Hi, my console got stuck.. I hit the ALT-key + one other key.. and now I can't write anything.. how do I undo this again?
[20:37] <chickenFire> stas??
[20:37] <`David> can i run ubuntu in vm?
[20:37] <chickenFire> stas__??
[20:37] <Starnestommy> `David: yes
[20:37] <`David> and how do i set up vm?
[20:37] <ShakQ> yes
[20:37] <greasy_leftwing> sure
[20:37] <zer0bit> Starnestommy .. i know that u would say ubuntu .. i would like to know WHY .. or whats the difference between them .. that has not been given on the website ( very first ditterant to a windows user trying to convert to linux )
[20:37] <greasy_leftwing> check out VirtualBox is my suggestion onthat core
[20:37] <stiv2k> does anybody have any information regarding Nvidia CoolBits ??  I can't seem to make the clock frequencies apply
[20:38] <qwerty6523> hi
[20:38] <Starnestommy> zer0bit: it's the main one of those four, it's the most used, most of the work is done to it, and its GUI is easy to use
[20:38] <`David> the thing is tho in my CCNA class we dual booted ubuntu and xp on the same kind of systems
[20:38] <gabriela> h
[20:38] <linduxed_> yesterday i closed the lid of my laptop and left it for a while. When i came back and opened it, the lights were flashing like when it gets kernel panic, screen was all black and it didnt respond to anything. So i reset the laptop and when i boot back up i find that wifi is dead
[20:38] <peace> im genius!!!!!!!!
[20:39] <linduxed_> how do i restore a previous state or examine how to get the wifi going
[20:39] <aricz> Hi, my console got stuck.. I hit the ALT-key + one other key.. and now I can't write anything.. how do I undo this again?
[20:39] <zer0bit> Starnestommy , my geek friend said there is a type of linux called "KNOPPIX" which doesnt install on hard drive but runs through CD when bios option is 'boot from CD' .. is there a ubuntu version like that ?
[20:39] <genius> peace: no, i am!
[20:39] <`David> greasy_leftwing www.virtualbox.org?
[20:39] <Seb962> Hey guys, anyone knows a good automatic id3 tag download program to sort out my music??? T
[20:39] <peace> i press ctrl+alt+f8 and then i appear in prompt..with no command line working there!!!... i cant do there anything... i pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and i was in prompt!!!!! and still i run the drivers..and still it was said that i must turn off x server !!! damn
[20:39] <greasy_leftwing> aye, them
[20:40] <Starnestommy> zer0bit: the main ubuntu CDs can do that
[20:40] <aricz> God damnit, this is irritating.. I hit ALT+<something> .. and suddenly console is all stuck. I know there's a key-combo that unlocks the console again, I just don't remember what.. anyone?
[20:40] <peace> so how to install nvidia drivers.. how..what..where is prompt.. what..
[20:40] <geirha> zer0bit: yes, that's what's called live CDs
[20:40] <flowOver> peace - you have to kill x, not just switch to another terminal
[20:40] <`David> i'm on dial-up i hope it isn't a very big download lmfao
[20:40] <Ward1983> i want to use grub to multiboot winxp qnd ubuntu, but i want to boot them from a fakeraid array, i know how to do it with windows but not how to do it with linux
[20:40] <geirha> zer0bit: gobuntu isn't a liveCD yet though, but with the next release it will be a liveCD too I think
[20:40] <greasy_leftwing> shouldnt take long
[20:41] <Ward1983> can annyone tell me how to do this?
[20:41] <zer0bit> Starnestommy .. ok, how do i decide which are "main ubuntu CDs"  .. ( Frankly, all this info should be there on the website but it is not )
[20:41] <peace> flowOver i tried this -->  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ...and then i was not been able to run any command line... suggestion needed
[20:41] <`David> i would download for windows x86 right?
[20:41] <linduxed_> aricz: youre in system console or a console in the graphical interface?
[20:41] <prince_jammys> !livecd | zer0bit
[20:41] <Starnestommy> zer0bit: the ubuntu desktop CDs that aren't alternates
[20:41] <mammoth> Ward1983 : do what ? i don't see your question.
[20:41] <zer0bit> !livecd
[20:41] <geirha> zer0bit: ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu are the same, they only differ in look and feel of the GUI
[20:41] <ubotu> zer0bit: The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[20:41] <flowOver> sudo killall gdm
[20:41] <greasy_leftwing> not if your mobo is from '02-'03
[20:41] <`David> then what?
[20:41] <greasy_leftwing> ah lol
[20:41] <xmms> hello! Where xmms loging curently playing song? anyone?
[20:41] <aricz> linduxed_ : tty.. virtual console.. textmode
[20:42] <greasy_leftwing> no sorry
[20:42] <greasy_leftwing> yes x86
[20:42] <greasy_leftwing> standard architecture, x86
[20:42] <CannibalM> So what is the main difference between the main live CD's and the Alt CD's anyway?
[20:42] <Lasivian> anyone want to point me to how to troubleshoot a dsriver not loading?
[20:42] <Ward1983> mammoth, a little higher :p but i said: ¨i want to use grub to multiboot winxp qnd ubuntu, but i want to boot them from a fakeraid array, i know how to do it with windows but not how to do it with linux¨
[20:42] <aricz> linduxed_: I've done this mistake many times, but for some damn reason I don't remember they key-combo to unlock it.. :)
[20:42] <peace> i tried this -->  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ...and then i was not been able to run any command line... suggestion needed how to instal nvidia drivers.. :|
[20:42] <geirha> zer0bit: edubuntu is also very similar, but comes with a different set of packages ... more educational ones I would believe
[20:42] <linduxed_> aricz: can help ya there, try adding ctrl to the pressing
[20:42] <Starnestommy> CannibalM: the alt CDs just install
[20:42] <`David> also another question, would a variance in ram bus speeds cause cpu freezing and over heating?
[20:42] <CannibalM> gotchya
[20:42] <xmms> hello! Where xmms loging curently playing song? anyone?
[20:42] <citybird> hi, what is the max memory you can have with 32bit ubuntu 7.10''
[20:43] <geirha> zer0bit: and gobuntu is all open source, no proprietary stuff to taint the system
[20:43] <zer0bit> thanks a loads for your time, i think its way 2 early for me to go linux
[20:43] <aricz> linduxed_ : ctrl? ctrl-what ?
[20:43] <CannibalM> never say never man,
[20:43] <CannibalM> just VM it and get started,
[20:43] <greasy_leftwing> unlikely
[20:43] <CannibalM> i still use Win as a workstation, but run everything else on Nix
[20:43] <fbc> Where do I find the i286 ubuntu cd?
[20:43] <CannibalM> and I was die-hard win for awhile
[20:43] <geirha> zer0bit: if you install ubuntu, you can "convert" it to kubuntu and xubuntu very easily
[20:43] <greasy_leftwing> if your pc is running with them and recognising that the ram is present then its using it as is expected
[20:43] <linduxed_> ctrl+alt+f6
[20:43] <mammoth> Ward1983 : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[20:43] <Lasivian> zer0bit: I hear you, i'm getting very annoyed that i'm losing functionality by going with unix
[20:43] <aricz> linduxed_ : ah.. you don't understand the problem.. but thats ok
[20:44] <Ward1983> mammoth, thanx
[20:44] <citybird> anyone know if 32bit ubuntu 7.10 can run 8gigs of ram??
[20:44] <peace> :\
[20:44] <linduxed_> aricz: try mashing the entire keyboard
[20:44] <linduxed_> :-P
[20:44] <zer0bit> Lasivian .. sir, i am not here to tar linux.. i know that unix is much powerful system than windows, and linux is kind of GUI unix for common user
[20:44] <flowOver> `David: you mean like differently rated chips?
[20:44] <greasy_leftwing> dunno mate, try it!
[20:44] <`David> well i've heard that the faster of the 2 sticks would slow down and i've heard that its most likely my problem
[20:44] <greasy_leftwing> if theyre working then theres nowt wrong
[20:44] <Starnestommy> citybird: I don't think so unless you recompile the kernel with pae
[20:44] <Lasivian> zer0bit: I use the terms probably more interchangably than most
[20:44] <xmms> hello! Where xmms loging curently playing song? anyone?
[20:44] <Ward1983> mammoth, is it possible to just install stuff using the livecd??? :s
[20:44] <aricz> my tty/virtual console/console-textmode is STUCKED because I managed to hit ALT+<another key> .. which makes it impossible to write or do anything on that console.. now, I *KNOW* there's a key-combo to UNLOCK the console again, but I don't remember which. Anyone know it? Thank you! *arghhhhh*
[20:44] <greasy_leftwing> david.. is this something that you havent done yet?
[20:45] <citybird> Starnestommy: where can i look that up
[20:45] <mammoth> Ward1983 : If you have the system installed, yes.
[20:45] <zer0bit> Lasivian .. the problem is for a person who has been on windows since it came, the documentation on main website is far too less which serves as a total deterrant.
[20:45] <aricz> linduxed_: ;) I'm about to smash my keyboard anyway, so yes, will do soon
[20:45] <Lasivian> yeah
[20:45] <greasy_leftwing> if so, check your mobo manual to make sure, if you dont have it, open the bugger up find out the model number and look up the pdf online
[20:45] <`David> no i have them in right now but i never had this issue until i put it in
[20:45] <Ward1983> mammoth, the system+
[20:45] <Ward1983> ?
[20:45] <danbhfive> citybird: I'm just guessing that the answer is yes, since its a kernel thing, and ubuntu uses the linux kernel, right?  Anyway, just curious, why do you need 8 gigs of ram?  are you mastering movies or something?
[20:45] <flowOver> `David: yes it goes to the lowest speed of what's installed.  i've also had alot of difficulty in the past with different speed's of ram and system hangs.  i've been extra cautious to buy identical spec'd ram for the last decade though
[20:45] <qwerty6523> ubuntu rocks
[20:45] <zer0bit> Lasivian can i please pm u ?
[20:45] <Lasivian> yeah
[20:45] <mammoth> Ward1983 : You can use the livecd to repare something or to add some piece of softwares/tools.
[20:46] <xmms> anyone using xmms?
[20:46] <greasy_leftwing> I stand corrected
[20:46] <flowOver> i wouldn't doubt it's the source of your problem if you're freezing up
[20:46] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: i did it, now compiz cant start
[20:46] <prince_jammys> zer0bit: you can download and boot from the liveCD without making any commitment.  the same livecd can install ubuntu if you want, without losing your windows installation.
[20:46] <mammoth> Ward1983 : but, if you don't have linux installed, what do you want to install ?
[20:46] <`David> i have the manual for the mobo model but
[20:46] <Lasivian> I really don't want to go back to windows/netstumbler, but if Linux can't do that I don't have alot of choice
[20:46] <Ward1983> mammoth, it just says: boot the ubuntu cd qnd install dmraid from synaptic
[20:46] <`David> the manual doesn't match the mobo even though the models match up
[20:47] <greasy_leftwing> ?? but... ?
[20:47] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, Have you read the ati page?  Does your video work?
[20:47] <diego> saindo...
[20:47] <Ward1983> mammoth, im gonna install winxp first, then ubuntu, qnd multiboot them
[20:47] <`David> if you understand what i'm saying
[20:47] <greasy_leftwing> yer, kinda
[20:47] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: yes i just finished following it, video is fine and my ati drivers work but compiz cant turn on
[20:47] <flowOver> `David: i know what you're saying.  they usually do one manual for a line of models and hope people can peice it together
[20:47] <mammoth> Ward1983 : Ok, it's a good way.
[20:47] <geirha> zer0bit: what information should be on the website would be nice for the devs to know about. If you feel you have the time, posting it at the ubuntuforums would be helpful
[20:47] <greasy_leftwing> sounds like it
[20:48] <`David> like i was trying to use the manual when i had to wire it up in my new tower and the manual didn't help at all i had to go through everything and figure it out
[20:48] <flowOver> to trouble shoot the system, run it with only the fastest installed
[20:48] <Ward1983> mammoth, but... should i mqke two arrays, eqch using hqlf of the disk, or one array and partition it?
[20:48] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, In terminal what do you show for fglrxinfo
[20:48] <ShakQ> for what is Ctrl + Alt + F6??
[20:48] <Starnestommy> ShakQ: it switches to tty 6
[20:48] <Ward1983> mammoth, please ignore my retarded typos, im used to qwerty these dqys, qnd im qt q azerty keyb
[20:48] <flowOver> there's also a memtest on the ubuntu alternative cd.  maybe the live as well.  run it for a couple hours
[20:48] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow:  it works, ati technologies, radeon x1600 series, then the ver of the drivers
[20:48] <ShakQ> tty 6?
[20:48] <Lasivian> Has anyone here worked with an Orinoco card on Ubuntu?
[20:49] <ShakQ> :s
[20:49] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: its compiz that wont start
[20:49] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, Are you using the driver from Ubuntu or some other one
[20:49] <Starnestommy> ShakQ: a tty is a terminal or command line
[20:49] <`David> thanks for the help guys
[20:49] <greasy_leftwing> np
[20:49] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: the driver from restricted manager
[20:49] <aricz> Hi, my tty/virtual console/console-textmode is STUCKED because I managed to hit ALT+<another key> .. which makes it impossible to write or do anything on that console.. now, I *KNOW* there's a key-combo to UNLOCK the console again, but I don't remember which. Anyone know it?
[20:49] <`David> i'll let you know how it all goes
[20:49] <greasy_leftwing> cool
[20:49] <fevel> is anyone syncing to ipod touch?
[20:49] <Starnestommy> aricz: maybe ctrl+q
[20:49] <danbhfive> citybird: I looked on google, the answer seems to be 'no'
[20:49] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, fglrx shows ati correct?
[20:49] <aricz> Starnestommy : nopes
[20:49] <ShakQ> ah, k, thx, i pressed it and had to reboot xD i couldnt write anything
[20:50] <Starnestommy> aricz: ctrl+l?
[20:50] <zer0bit> Lasivian .. lot of text in pm .. please take a look at it and comment
[20:50] <mammoth> Ward1983 : i suggest you to only use one disk, and then (after the install of the two systems, when you have your double boot worked) add the second disk and configure the raid.
[20:50] <aricz> Starnestommy : nopes.. :>
[20:50] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: yes, compiz says "the composite extension is now available"
[20:50] <citybird> danbhfive: im looking too and i think i found something
[20:50] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, now or not              and you also installed this    apt-get install xserver-xgl
[20:50] <citybird> im not gona let 6gigs of ram goto waste
[20:51] <Starnestommy> citybird: try the 64-bit version
[20:51] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow:  i thought ati could now handle aiglx
[20:51] <`David> 	Board: Intel Corporation D845GRG AAA86577-303
[20:51] <`David> Serial Number: AZRG30217119
[20:51] <`David> Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
[20:51] <`David> BIOS: Intel Corp. RG84510A.15A.0030.P13.0302130929 02/13/2003
[20:51] <Ward1983> mammoth, but if i install on one disk how cqn i then turn it into raid? are you sure this is possible? im extremely confused now
[20:51] <citybird> Starnestommy: no 64bit cup
[20:51] <citybird> Starnestommy: no 64bit cpu
[20:51] <Lasivian> zer0bit: i'm not showing any messages from you
[20:51] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, You didnt read carefully
[20:51] <aricz> Starnestommy : Ok, seems it should be CTRL-Q .. but it's all stuck anyway.. thanks anyway
[20:52] <flowOver> citybird: you can't if it's the 32bit os.  the cpu is running in 32bit address space and can't allocate it all
[20:52] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: its an old thing for 6.10 anyway, now ati supports aiglx
[20:52] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: when i had it going before i didnt have xgl on
[20:52] <mammoth> Ward1983 : i never use raid technology, but i think that it is the best way. you can make some searchs before doing your installs.
[20:52] <danbhfive> citybird: hmmm, maybe you just need to install the server kernel http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=714949
[20:53] <flowOver> citybird: if you manage to do it, it'll be buggy
[20:53] <citybird> flowOver: so what should be the max? 4gigs? my machine only shows 2gigs
[20:53] <ShakQ> everytime i press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace it doesnt reload the LogIn Screen again, does anybody knows why?
[20:53] <flowOver> unstable as the bering sea
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, You should be able to get decent video and effects on that card...
[20:53] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: i know that much
[20:53] <Lasivian> where is a good place to go to pay someone to make *nix run the way I want it to? I've got alot more money than I have time or patience for working with the thing :(
[20:54] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: it doesnt say anything having xgl on anyway in that faq
[20:54] <flowOver> citybird: 3-4gb is the limit.  it depends on your hardware how well it's allocated
[20:54] <Lasivian> or knowledge
[20:54] <citybird> grrrrr
[20:54] <danbhfive> !info linux-server | citybird
[20:54] <ubotu> citybird: linux-server (source: linux-meta): Complete Linux kernel on Server Equipment.. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[20:54] <flowOver> i wouldn't doubt you had differently spec'd ram to and that was causing it to not recognize most of it
[20:54] <greasy_leftwing> KSA Lasavian KSA
[20:54] <Corky_> hey what are the windows emulators on ubuntu called?
[20:54] <Corky_> i wanna try out different ones
[20:54] <greasy_leftwing> Knowledge Skills and Abilities
[20:55] <Starnestommy> Corky_: wine is in the repos, but cedega isn't
[20:55] <Corky_> any others?
[20:55] <prince_jammys> Lasivian:  http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[20:55] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: try searching for the term xgl in that webpage, there is vritually nothing about it
[20:55] <CannibalM> Isn't Wine the free open source and Cedega core is commercial?
[20:55] <Starnestommy> CannibalM: yep
[20:55] <CannibalM> good deal. See? I pick up quick.
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, Under the heading Installing the Driver the Ubuntu Way...   apt-get install xserver-xgl                   next type  sudo depmod -a
[20:55] <flowOver> cedega is mostly opensource except for the copy protection figuring part
[20:55] <HarimaKenji> hi, how can i find out which scsi device /dev/sdb1 is? I want to remove it using scsiadd
[20:56] <greasy_leftwing> Corky_: I recommend installing it on a virtual machine
[20:56] <webulator70> god i hate ati for this, nvidia is so much easier to deal with
[20:56] <Corky_> installing what on a virtual machine?
[20:56] <greasy_leftwing> lol
[20:56] <greasy_leftwing> I sound like a parrot here...
[20:56] <greasy_leftwing> VirtualBox
[20:56] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, Just telling you what I did here...  it is somewhere on those pages.
[20:56] <flowOver> webulator70: they're just behind the game.  i'll probably buy ati hardware when their chip blueprints are opensourced
[20:56] <CannibalM> I always was an Nvidia fan since ATI got caught modifying drivers to improve speed off of graphics.
[20:56] <danbhfive> citybird: if you try the server kernel, please let me know if it works, I'm curious
[20:56] <CannibalM> IE the whole QIII stuff
[20:56] <Corky_> does that emulate the entire windows OS?
[20:56] <Ward1983> mammoth, never mind i made up my mind, im just gonnq use rqid on windows only, i read the tutorial and its too much work
[20:56] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, I agree nvidia are way easier
[20:56] <CannibalM> I run the server kernal!
[20:56] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: on that page there is no mention of xserver-xgl
[20:56] <Ward1983> in wondows its allmost nothing
[20:57] <CannibalM> 10 clustered ones :-) I feel special considering a year ago i had no clue how to even open a term
[20:57] <geirha> !vm | Corky_
[20:57] <ubotu> Corky_: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[20:57] <greasy_leftwing> it emulates ytour system and allows you to oopen a system as an application on top of your current system
[20:57] <flowOver> danbhfive: it won't work.  it's a limitation of the 32bit address space.  there is no way to allocate more than what can fit and have it behave stable
[20:57] <webulator70> flowOver: im sure it will get better then but ati has been probs for me on to many occations
[20:57] <Corky_> no no
[20:57] <Corky_> i dnt wanna run the OS
[20:57] <Corky_> i just wanna run an app
[20:57] <danbhfive> flowOver: whats this then? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[20:57] <Corky_> i got wine but some stuff wont work on it
[20:57] <greasy_leftwing> so you can open it up and install whatever OS meets your needs, all in a window, on whatever os youre using now
[20:57] <Lasivian> prince_jammys: yeah, i'm assuming support would give up if it's a third_party driver issue or the like
[20:57] <CannibalM> like parallels?
[20:57] <Corky_> no
[20:58] <Corky_> like wine
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, I have seen conflicting info on that...  just telling you what I have seen done or tried.
[20:58] <flowOver> agreed.  they're breaking ground for open source 3d though. got to give them the repsect for that
[20:58] <prince_jammys> Lasivian: what are the full specs of this Orinoco card?
[20:58] <romulo> hi, I have a new display installed on the pc but it's not setting the right resolution.
[20:58] <Corky_> paralells runs the entire XP OS
[20:58] <flowOver> danbhfive: it's a way to emulate physical address spaces, and have a system that runs as stable as the bearing sea.  i've covered this
[20:58] <romulo> can you help me?
[20:58] <Jared5552> bad thing to ask here I am sure.... but for non gui servers, is ubuntu server better than centos?
[20:58] <greasy_leftwing> I run xp fine in a vm tbh
[20:58] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: oh
[20:58] <webulator70> brb
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> romulo, Many people dont set the v/h rates for the monitor
[20:59] <Corky_> but i dnt wanna run XP
[20:59] <Lasivian> pc24e-h-fc, lucent technologies, hermes I
[20:59] <Corky_> im trying to get as far away from windows and microsoft
[20:59] <romulo> it's an lcd, so the problem is not the refresh rate
[20:59] <RomeReactor> Corky: not everything works on wine; there's also Crossover Office, but I don't know if that would help you (plus it's not free or Free)
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Corky_, then stop running programs written for them
[20:59] <romulo> the native resolution is just not on the list
[20:59] <greasy_leftwing> precisely
[20:59] <flowOver> good luck with that corky.  i still run my xp so i can have adobe
[20:59] <romulo> it's 1440x900
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> romulo, lcd do have v and h refresh and sync rates
[21:00] <romulo> but the maximum resolution I'm getting is 1024x768
[21:00] <Corky_> oh yeah crossover is the other one i heard about
[21:00] <greasy_leftwing> signing out...
[21:00] <dneary> Hi there
[21:00] <RomeReactor> Corky: try finding native equivalents for your windows apps
[21:00] <Corky_> i just need to run these apps till i find the linux counter part
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> romulo, 1024 is max vesa res, you may not have your driver installed
[21:00] <romulo> so how can I fix this?
[21:00] <romulo> yes I have
[21:00] <Songoo> hello can somebody help with no sound in ubuntu
[21:00] <citybird> ok there is an option under highmemory support for 64gigs of ram
[21:00] <Corky_> well is there anything i can do about veoh?
[21:00] <romulo> and i'm running compiz
[21:00] <dneary> I have a big long list of services that start up when I start the computer (and another big long list of things that start when I log in).
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> romulo, Post your xorg to the pastebin so people can review it
[21:00] <katakaio> romulo: you will probably need to modify your xorg.conf file to include your native res
[21:01] <romulo> thanks a lot
[21:01] <citybird> then there is an option to split this up.
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> romulo, also post the make and model of your lcd
[21:01] <Aeon> night
[21:01] <dneary> I'd like to speed up my laptop and regain some of the snap that it had when I first installed it. There's a bunch of stuff I don't know whether I can safely disable it or not
[21:01] <danbhfive> flowOver: ok, I missed the part regarding instability.  I still can't find it, but I'll take your word for it
[21:01] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: thanks dude, its going good now
[21:02] <peace> i neeeeed help really... :) again... i somehow..im not sure how... instaled nvidia 169drivers! but now.. now..no more nvidia x drivers.. what to do.. i cant choose resolution and so on..
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, Didnt mean to give you a hard time
[21:02] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: i never would have guessed it too, i thought xgl ran slower then aiglx
[21:02] <peace> how to auto update something ?
[21:02] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: lol you didn't, its cool, thanks
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, You have good video and effects now correct?
[21:02] <romulo> my xorg.conf file is this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58422/
[21:02] <mathlover3> hello
[21:03] <CannibalM> Hi
[21:03] <CannibalM> Be my friend?
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, glad to help.. welcome to Ubuntu
[21:03] <dneary> Plus, I have lots of issues with suspend/resume, the VGA output of my laptop, ...
[21:03] <flowOver> Corky_: thats entirely why i'm running xp in a vm.  keep those app's untill i'm comfortable with the linux counterparts.  i tried installing illustrator in wine and it was headaches all around.  the vm does it all flawlessly, albiet a little slow but thats hardly a flaw
[21:03] <Songoo> test in sound preferences is writting : gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writing.
[21:03] <RomeReactor> Corky: try http://linuxappfinder.com/alternatives; and veoh uses Flash, so it should work in your system
[21:03] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: its late for that, ive been using ubuntu for years... only with an nvidia card until now
[21:04] <dneary> For the desktop stuff, I am not sure where the time is being spent at start-up
[21:04] <Corky_> it works to some extent
[21:04] <katakaio> romulo: Open the xorg file in an editor and scroll down to the Monitor section
[21:04] <romulo> wait just a minute, please
[21:04] <vALIEN> hey anyone familiar with wireshark? im seeing all the packets, but dont know which is good or bad...any help?
[21:04] <dneary> Perhaps it's readahead slowing everything down? In which case, is there a way to strip some stuff out of the readahead list?
[21:04] <Corky_> i think it uses directX drawing or smth cos i get black strips over some panels so i cant use it
[21:04] <RomeReactor> Corky: are you using Flash o Gnash?
[21:04] <Corky_> i got the Adobe flash and Gnash installed
[21:04] <dneary> vALIEN: What are you trying to measure/identify?
[21:05] <Jack_Sparrow> romulo, what type of monitor are you using.. you dont have the res you want in there.. but I also want to verify correct v/h rates
[21:05] <vALIEN> intruders :)
[21:05] <RomeReactor> remove Gnash: sudo aptitude remove --purge gnash
[21:05] <dneary> vALIEN: talking about good & bad packets doesn't really make much sense
[21:05] <katakaio> Jack_Sparrow: romulo ducked out for some reason
[21:05] <Corky_> veoh works in my browser tho
[21:05] <vALIEN> good start
[21:05] <peace> anyone instaled newest nvidia drivers?? 169? need help
[21:05] <Corky_> i just cant get the VeohTV app to run properly
[21:05] <raiderxx> Im having trouble installing drives for my nvidia drivers.  Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[21:07] <Starnestommy> envy has been known to cause problems on ubuntu
[21:07] <dneary> Other ways you can filter are on protocol, or packet content
[21:07] <vALIEN> and i gotta be running wireshark 24/7?
[21:08] <raiderxx> so if envy doesnt work, in my case for example, how should I install them?
[21:08] <bernier> Hi, even after following sucessfully this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto , I can't get my sound to work, can someone help me?
[21:08] <treguy31fr> Hi there
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> raiderxx, The problem is that you already tried envy and that is not easy to undo...
[21:08] <dneary> So - some services I'm wondering whether I can disable them (or, alternatively, whether they take 0 resources): loadcpufreq, vbesave, acpid, powernowd.early...
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> raiderxx, If it was as simple as try it and if it doesnt work do this or that.. we would not have such a strong opinion against it
[21:09] <raiderxx> oh..
[21:09] <userx532> ubuntu seems kinda slow, what can i do to make it faster?
[21:09] <raiderxx> So what do you suggest?
[21:09] <eltopo> ok
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> bernier, recompile alsa using ver 15 NOT 16
[21:09] <dneary> xserver-xorg-input-wacom, i915resolution, ppp, apmd, cpudyn, cpufreqd, cpufrequtils, hddtemp, hotkey-setup
[21:10] <dneary> userx532: You could try to figure out what's taking time
[21:10] <Jack_Sparrow> raiderxx, The best way is for you to do a fresh install...
[21:10] <bernier> Jack_Sparrow: and could you explain quickly why this would work
[21:10] <dneary> userx532: Are you swapping a lot? Perhaps memory is the issue
[21:10] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: im guessing theres no way i can do this with aiglx right?.... are there any limitations anyway with using xgl as i am now?
[21:10] <Odd-rationale> Does anyone know the name of that firefox extension that masks you as ie?
[21:10] <bernier> userx532: if yoour running the live CD it's normal ...
[21:10] <raiderxx> ...are you kidding me?
[21:10] <vrkhans> hi i am trying to configure  mutt+fetchmail+procmail but when after creating the .fetchmailrc file and trying this command fetchmai -vk command i got this msg no mailservers have been specified. wat does that mean
[21:10] <raiderxx> of.. linux?
[21:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bernier, A question better asked in #Alsa,  but 16 does not work with our mixer is the short version
[21:10] <Creeture> Is there a gnome application for browsing Perl docs? Something like the man page reader.
[21:10] <userx532> loading compiz fusion at boot takes forever
[21:10] <userx532> but i like compiz fusion
[21:11] <webulator70> Odd-rationale: look for any extention that configures user agent
[21:11] <RomeReactor> ODd-rationale: user agent
[21:11] <adamb> What would "15 10-22/3 * * *" in cron mean?
[21:11] <Odd-rationale> Thanks!
[21:11] <userx532> no livecd, and im not sure what you mean by swapping, but i have 2gb of memory
[21:11] <treguy31fr> I'm sorry to bother, but I have problem trying to install the patched RTL8187 drivers from aircrack-ng so I could boost a little bit the TX power or my wifi card (the router actually have a hard time receiving it)
[21:11] <bernier> Jack_Sparrow: ok thanks, do I have to uninstall anything before that?
[21:11] <dneary> userx532: If you have lots of memory, it could be redraw problems, it could be background tasks running slow
[21:11] <nickthorley> hi all - my resolution has gone stupidly low and hence i cant access the menu where the display manager is to increase it - what is the command to get it up
[21:11] <Creeture> adamb: Run at 15 minutes after the hour from 10 am to 10 pm, every 3 hours.
[21:11] <dneary> userx532: If you're running from a livecd, that is probably it
[21:11] <userx532> no im not running from a livecd
[21:11] <dneary> userx532: Let me explain what swapping means:
[21:12] <adamb> the every 3 hours part.. confuses me, hah
[21:12] <Jack_Sparrow> bernier, should not need to..  but the people in alsa are really good at that stuff, that is where I go to ask questions
[21:12] <treguy31fr> Can anyone help ?
[21:12] <bernier> ok thanks a lot
[21:12] <raiderxx> Jack_Sparrow, do you mean that I need to really reinstall Ubuntu? Like, completely?
[21:12] <Creeture> adamb: It runs 4 times a day starting at 10am. :) Not that hard.
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> raiderxx, You dont have to, but it is the best soultion.  FYI, also avoid automatix, and when you get base install done.. make a backup
[21:13] <stevecasper> hey....im trying to change my skins of amsn...i need to copy files to usr/share.....but i says im not allowed to
[21:13] <userx532> everyone who uses linux should also be using a byte for byte backup
[21:13] <userx532> unless of course youre one of those linux masters
[21:13] <dneary> You have 2 main types of memory - RAM and on-board processor cache
[21:13] <RomeReactor> nickthorley: you can't scroll the screen? try ALT+F1 to open the menus
[21:13] <userx532> 2mbl2 i have
[21:13] <userx532> 667mhz 2gb ram and 2mb of l2
[21:14] <raiderxx> How would I reinstall it?
[21:14] <adamb> so 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 7pm, 10pm?  thast 5
[21:14] <Seb962> Nickthorley you can also hold alt and drag the screen with the mouse.
[21:14] <raiderxx> Just put the disk in, then click reinstall?
[21:14] <dneary> In addition, you can have a memory address space bigger than available RAM
[21:14] <raiderxx> Is it that simple?
[21:14] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[21:14] <raiderxx> oh..
[21:14] <raiderxx> ok
[21:14] <raiderxx> And then what would I do?
[21:14] <raiderxx> Try again?
[21:14] <Jack_Sparrow> raiderxx, fyi.. making a second partition for /home is a good idea.
[21:14] <dneary> userx532: And in that case, when RAM is full, or near full, your OS will "swap out" parts of memory which aren't currently in use
[21:15] <p1ngnull> how do I play wmv files?
[21:15] <dneary> Sometimes it swaps out memory which you want to use soon afterwards
[21:15] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I need some rest.. will try and get back later in the day..  Play nice
[21:15] <raiderxx> Well I have a partition for Linux if that's what you mean, but I don't know what you mean by "/home"
[21:15] <brobostigon> p1ngnull: try vlc
[21:15] <raiderxx> ok
[21:15] <userx532> ok yeah i really doubt its swapping because its a fresh install and i have 2gb, unless compiz is leaking
[21:15] <raiderxx> Thank you for your help
[21:15] <nickthorley> hi all for some reason my installation of ubuntu had lost its graphics card settings - what is the best way to get it to auto detect it again
[21:15] <bernier> what's the bash command to remove a directory and it's files?
[21:16] <dneary> When you change applications, for example, you're writing data out to swap from RAM, and loading more data from swap back into RAM
[21:16] <Starnestommy> bernier: rm -rf dir
[21:16] <dneary> Reading & writing from disk is *real slow*
[21:16] <Pirate_Hunter> hello is there a way to set evolution to show emails by accounts, instead of showing all the emails in one inbox?
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> raiderxx, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome   is what I am talking about
[21:16] <dneary> userx532: Unlikely, then
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> nickthorley, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:16] <bernier> thanks
[21:16] <stevecasper> any1 know how i can copy files from desktop to usr/share/amsn........says im not allowed to
[21:16] <userx532> thanks for the help dneary
[21:16] <dneary> userx532: You can tell by running top in a terminal
[21:16] <p1ngnull> brobostigon: any way to use totem?
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> stevecasper, sudo cp blah blah
[21:17] <brobostigon> p1ngnull: i wouldnt know how, i have always used vlc.
[21:17] <userx532> 2074544k total, 59732 used
[21:17] <userx532> 0k swap used
[21:17] <dneary> userx532: At the top, you have two lines like this:
[21:17] <dneary> Mem:   1026384k total,   969488k used,    56896k free,    10568k buffers
[21:17] <dneary> Swap:  1582360k total,   249276k used,  1333084k free,   386632k cached
[21:18] <dneary> Mem = RAM, Swap = swap
[21:18] <lastelement0> hey all. I have XP installed as a guest under virtualbox. I was wondering if there is a way to access the files that are saved in XP
[21:18] <p1ngnull> vlc plays it, but it's incredibly choppy
[21:19] <tyranos> hello , how can i have system sounds like in windows
[21:19] <arakthor> lastelement0: my experience with that is limited, but in the past the only way I've seen people do it to scp (or similar) data between the guest and the host
[21:19] <p1ngnull> brobostigon: vlc kind of plays it, but it's incredibly choppy and certainly not anywhere near watchable
[21:19] <`paul> i have a perl scrip and i want it to run evrytime i start ubuntu how do i achieve this? probably put it into init.d if possible
[21:19] <lastelement0> arakthor: what is scp?
[21:19] <CannibalM> apparently searching my drive doesn't show in top suddenly....
[21:19] <CannibalM> not good.
[21:19] <brobostigon> p1ngnull: no idea, i havent played  wmv in ages,
[21:19] <Pirate_Hunter> hello is there a way to set evolution to show emails by accounts, instead of showing all the emails in one inbox?
[21:19] <arakthor> lastelement0: secure copy over a network, uses ssh
[21:20] <nickthorley> jack_sparrow: thanks for the info earlier
[21:20] <Weiss> `paul: look at man update-rc.d
[21:21] <`paul> ok
[21:21] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone here uses evolution?
[21:22] <CannibalM> no,
[21:22] <CannibalM> I do 'religion'
[21:22] <Odd-rationale> Pirate_Hunter: I do
[21:22] <stevecasper> jacksparrow: i cant get the copying to work....ive tried drag and drop, says i dont have permission
[21:22] <Odd-rationale> How do I install a .deb package I have downloaded with aptitude?
[21:22] <`paul> Weiss: but how do i create /etc/init.d/myscript if for example i want to run ./myperlscript.pl
[21:23] <Pirate_Hunter> Odd-rationale: how do you set emails to show by accounts instead of showing it all in one inbox?
[21:23] <Starnestommy> Odd-rationale: dpkg -i package.deb
[21:23] <Starnestommy> Odd-rationale: er, with sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[21:23] <Odd-rationale> Pirate_Hunter: I only have one account, so never tried...
[21:23] <Odd-rationale> Starnestommy: With aptitude?
[21:24] <Dougal> hello
[21:24] <Odd-rationale> Starnestommy: I know how with dpkg
[21:24] <cva> Odd-rationale: no can do with aptitude
[21:24] <zer0bit> Starnestommy .. i am frustrated but i still want to give linux a try .. can u guide me to a good linux guide ? google turns up way too much of stuff
[21:24] <Pirate_Hunter> Odd-rationale: np just wondered cause its annoying having all accounts in one inbox
[21:24] <Odd-rationale> cva: OK. Thanks.
[21:25] <zer0bit> Starnestommy take into account that i am a very pro-windows user trying to convert to linux .. and send me to some site accordingly .. thank you
[21:25] <fx|RabBit> can anyone tell me what exept the sudoers concept are the differences between ubuntu an debian?
[21:25] <Starnestommy> fx|RabBit: the repositories
[21:25] <Odd-rationale> zer0bit: Have you looked at www.getgnulinux.org ?
[21:25] <yoma> can someone one help me create a swap disk .
[21:26] <Starnestommy> there are some docs on www.linux.org somewhere
[21:26] <Starnestommy> and several books on it
[21:26] <zer0bit> Odd-rationale .. thanks .. i have never heard about that site but if u recommend it, i will spend my time reading it
[21:26] <lnkxm> ubuntu is great
[21:26] <Weiss> `paul: take a look at one of the other scripts in init.d - there's a template in there
[21:27] <Weiss> `paul: to do it "properly" is quite complicated but you might decide you don't need to do a complete job
[21:27] <Odd-rationale> zer0bit: It is a VERY basic introduction to linux...
[21:27] <Dougal> hi i have just recived the ubuntu 64bit edition disk the boot screen is fine i select start/install ubuntu and then mty screen gos dead and my monitor recives no sigan i have tried all option and save graphics
[21:27] <brobostigon> zer0bit: linux doc project, www.tldp.org
[21:27] <fx|RabBit> Starnestommy: anything else? im looking for the big difference but i dont find any
[21:28] <lnkxm> I LOVE UBUNTU!
[21:28] <Sjimmie> why?
[21:28] <Starnestommy> fx|RabBit: the community, the project structure, the goals, and lots of other things.  I've barely used debian before, so I'm not exactly sure what all the differences are
[21:28] <Sjimmie> becuz it makes you feel cool and unique?
[21:29] <lnkxm> who else loves ubuntu??
[21:29] <Flare183> lnkxm: i do
[21:29] <Dougal> i would if i could get it working
[21:29] <Sjimmie> it's an operating system, I use it, i don't love it :)
[21:29] <brobostigon> inkxm: i like linux/unix
[21:30] <Sjimmie> lnkxm: u high on drugs or something? :)
[21:30] <lnkxm> i like freebsd
[21:30] <tomtommy> how can I install Acrobat Reader plugin for firefox?
[21:30] <lnkxm> no - i'm high on helium :P
[21:30] <fx|RabBit> Starnestommy: uhuh thx...
[21:30] <FastZ> lnkxm: thats a silly question to ask! :)
[21:30] <brobostigon> !medibuntu | tomtommy
[21:30] <ubotu> tomtommy: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[21:30] <Flare183> tomtommy: goto adobe's website and download the acrobat 8.0
[21:30] <lnkxm> yep - everyone loves it :D
[21:30] <gnychis> anyone know how to find your SATA hard drive model using linux?
[21:30] <tomtommy> Flare183, cheers/  does that give support for firefox webpages that need PDF viweing?
[21:31] <Flare183> tomtommy: yeap
[21:31] <danand> gnychis - use the lshw command
[21:31] <tomtommy> Flare183, :)
[21:31] <tomtommy> !adobe
[21:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:31] <brandonc503> #PHP
[21:31] <gnychis> danand: thanks!
[21:32] <danand> gnychis - np :)
[21:32] <tomtommy> Flare183, shall I DL the adobe x86.Deb ?
[21:32] <arakthor> the default vim package installed with ubuntu doesn't come with syntax highlighting - anyone know which package has it?
[21:32] <Flare183> tomtommy: yeah
[21:32] <gnychis> danand: well, i see the disk controller but don't see the actual disk
[21:33] <tomtommy> Flare183, ok
[21:33] <tomtommy> brobostigon, why did u point me to medibuntu?
[21:34] <fx|RabBit> zer0bit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[21:34] <fx|RabBit> http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[21:34] <ubuntu__> Im having trouble installing my nvidia drivers.
[21:34] <ubuntu__> Anyone know why?
[21:34] <ubuntu__> I tried Envy
[21:34] <Reenen> pls help me... I downloaded the ubuntu openoffice 2.3.1 from work (WinXP) and copied it now to my /tmp drive... how do I install it?
[21:34] <russell_h> !envy
[21:34] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[21:35] <ubuntu__> Do you mean the restricted DRIVERS manager?
[21:35] <Wrec> can someone tell me when the address bar in firefox no longer points to "I'm feeling lucky" when I enter a keyword?
[21:35] <Wrec> why*
[21:35] <danand> gnychis - type ls /proc - is there an entry there for sata?
[21:36] <tomtommy> ubuntu__, why?
[21:36] <Dougal> can some help me ubuntu dont work on my pc
[21:36] <Lasivian> has anyone worked with an orinoco card and the hostap drivers?
[21:36] <tomtommy> Dougal, be more specific
[21:36] <Reenen> Wrec: I think you have to look somewhere in about:config
[21:37] <Reenen> but I've only heard about these things
[21:37] <ubuntu__> Where is Restricted Manager?
[21:37] <l815> does anyone else experience firefox constantly crashing?
[21:37] <ubuntu__> Or is it the same as restricted driver manager?
[21:37] <Dougal> live cd starts ok boot screen is fine then when ubuntu starts screen goes blank tried all settings
[21:37] <gnychis> danand: found it, cat /sys/block/sda/device/model
[21:37] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu__: Same
[21:37] <tomtommy> ubuntu__, when Ubuntu loads, it should appear as message in toolbar!  it did for me
[21:37] <ubuntu__> ok thank you
[21:37] <Reenen> pls help me... I downloaded the ubuntu openoffice 2.3.1 from work (WinXP) and copied it now to my /tmp drive... how do I install it?
[21:37] <lastelement0> hey all i just attempted to use the VBoxManage command to share folders with my host and guest OS and im told that the command cannot be found.  I do have the guest additions installed
[21:37] <tomtommy> ubuntu__, administration
[21:38] <brobostigon> Reenen: sudo apt-get install openoffice
[21:38] <danand> gnychis - cool :D - thats what i was aiming for - just i don't have sata disks
[21:38] <fx|RabBit> Reenen you cant just copy an application from windows to linux use sudo apt-get install open office
[21:38] <Reenen> sudo apt-get install openoffice
[21:38] <danand> gnychis - should have similar listing in /proc too - but /sys is better
[21:38] <brobostigon> yep
[21:38] <Reenen> E: Couldn't find package openoffice
[21:39] <CVD-PR> How to make wine detect java?
[21:39] <lastelement0> hey all i just attempted to use the VBoxManage command to share folders with my host and guest OS and im told that the command cannot be found.  I do have the guest additions installed
[21:39] <`paul> Weiss: how do i limit make my script output nothing
[21:39] <tomtommy> ubuntu__, System/administration
[21:39] <raiderxx> It says my hardware does not support drivers
[21:39] <danand> gnychis - maybe under /proc/scsi??
[21:39] <CVD-PR> i try to run a simple .exe but its say "java dont detected"
[21:39] <raiderxx> *restricted
[21:39] <grezer34> Hey Guys, Is there a way to change your GUI from Xubuntu to Gnome ?? if so how ??
[21:40] <prince_jammys> grezer34: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:40] <leafwiz> What does lots of ? ? ? and red text mean when you do a ls -la
[21:40] <ConstyXIV_> is there a way to mute the "Unsafe device removal" warning?
[21:40] <katakaio> grezer34: Sure is. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:40] <Odd-rationale> grezer34: Install xubuntu-desktop
[21:40] <edosar> hi i'm searching for help  running virtualbox on ubuntu 7.10, specially on network configuration do you know some links that i can read (aside form virutal box docs)
[21:40] <prince_jammys> he already has xubuntu
[21:40] <katakaio> grezer34: ubuntu-desktop for GNOME, xubuntu-desktop for XFCE
[21:40] <Odd-rationale> grezer34: Sorry, I got it backwards, do as katakaio says...
[21:40] <`paul> how do i make my perl script output nothing
[21:40] <katakaio> and kubuntu-desktop for KDE
[21:41] <grezer34> prince_jammys and that will change the GUI ?? I cant stand XUbuntu
[21:41] <fx|RabBit> Reenen: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[21:41] <ConstyXIV_> CVD-PR: what are you running in wine that needs java?
[21:41] <webulator70> crap, i knew xgl would fail me
[21:41] <prince_jammys> grezer34: ubuntu-desktop is gnome, yes
[21:41] <`paul> i mean i downloaded a script and added it to init.d but the problem is its outputing some things
[21:41] <CVD-PR> ConstyXIV_,  i windows .exe
[21:41] <prince_jammys> grezer34: there's also kubuntu-desktop if you want to try kde
[21:41] <katakaio> grezer34: You will have the option at the login screen for which desktop interface you want
[21:42] <ConstyXIV_> CVD-PR: what program?
[21:42] <katakaio> grezer34: You can also uninstall xubuntu-desktop if you don't ever want to see it again
[21:42] <Reenen> fx|RabBit: it seems to be starting, but I want to use the files I have downloaded from work, and not the current stuff from the net, because I have a very low cap on my broadband (150mb)
[21:42] <CVD-PR> ConstyXIV_,  its an examn
[21:42] <tomtommy> Flare183, cheers. I can now view PDF files via Firefox webpages :)
[21:42] <amenado> `paul->  can you direct stderr and stdout to  /dev/null ?
[21:42] <l815> are there any ways to fix firefox from crashing often?
[21:42] <Flare183> tomtommy: great
[21:42] <fx|RabBit> Reenen: so you mean you have downloaded an installer at work?
[21:42] <tomtommy> Flare183, :)
[21:42] <fx|RabBit> Reenen: what is the exact filename?
[21:43] <CVD-PR> ?
[21:43] <tomtommy> Flare183, I needed that thanks! cause I needed to be able to view my bank statements via website.
[21:43] <Reenen> fx|RabBit: I downloaded OOo_2.3.1_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz from work
[21:43] <`paul> amenado: how?
[21:44] <fx|RabBit> Reenen:  so do tar xzvf OOo_2.3.1_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz to unpack the file
[21:44] <fx|RabBit> Reenen: then see what is inside
[21:44] <Lasivian> has anyone worked with an orinoco card and the hostap drivers?
[21:45] <Reenen> fx|RabBit:  yes, I've done that... And I have loads of .deb files, and a folder name "desktop-integration" which contains 1 .deb file.  That file I could right-click and install using "GDebi package installer"
[21:45] <n2diy> Can I assign a name to a USB stick? With multible sticks in my reader I lose track of which one is sda1, sda2 etc...
[21:45] <catmistake> help... lost my xserver. Anyone with PPC, ati rage 128 & 17" monitor, can you post your xorg.conf?
[21:45] <fx|RabBit> Reenen: exaclty
[21:46] <mneptok> Reenen: why are you installing OpenOffice from local packages? it's in the repositories.
[21:46] <Reenen> because I have a 150mb cap at home, and at work it's "free" (well not really, but I don't pay for it)
[21:46] <mneptok> Reenen: but OO.o is already installed on Ubuntu
[21:47] <Reenen> yes, but I want to upgrade to 2.3.1, not use 2.2.0
[21:47] <grezer34> prince_jammys dident work this is the error that i am getting " E: Invalid operation ubuntu-desktop
[21:47] <grezer34> "
[21:47] <fx|RabBit> Reenen: it ought to work now odont it?
[21:47] <prince_jammys> grezer34: what command did you type?
[21:48] <mneptok> Reenen: you may have to upgrade other packages. OO.o has a ton of dependencies.
[21:48] <Odd-rationale> grezer34: Do sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[21:48] <Reenen> fx|RabBit:  It says "Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Feisty II' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter"
[21:48] <fx|RabBit> rofl
[21:49] <Reenen> because I have 5 DVD which is a complete Ubuntu Feisty Repository that I got from the freedom toaster
[21:49] <fx|RabBit> ah thats kewl
[21:49] <Reenen> and Feisty II is the 2nd of those dvds
[21:49] <fx|RabBit> jep kk
[21:49] <fx|RabBit> need to isntall gdebi probably..
[21:49] <raiderxx> Where is the equivalent of My Computer on Ubuntu where I can look at HDD space?
[21:49] <lydgate> git is kind of confusing
[21:50] <Reenen> raiderxx: Places -> Computer
[21:50] <jacobian_> is there a way I can keep the nvidia kernel module from being loaded at boot
[21:50] <Y-Town> is there any advantage to running ubuntu server over ubuntu for a small home/business serer?  I would be looking to do the obvious file sharing, printing, web/ftp server.  I am not sure about using it as a router or just letting all my other computers use the linksys router
[21:51] <jacobian_> it auto-loads the correct one if I do rmmod nvidia ; /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:51] <Lasivian> do I have to do something to the kernel after installing a driver package, or should that be done automatically?
[21:51] <grezer34> prince_jammys sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[21:51] <Lasivian> my new driver isn't loading and I don't know how to troubleshoot why i'm afraid
[21:51] <prince_jammys> grezer34: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:51] <grezer34> prince_jammys that is the command that I tried, I think i tried that once before too .. cant remember
[21:51] <prince_jammys> grezer34: you're missing the "install"
[21:51] <fx|RabBit> Y-Town: ubuntu server is ubuntu -desktop or ubuntu is desktop + services
[21:51] <kenny> duuuuude
[21:51] <grezer34> :)
[21:51] <prince_jammys> grezer34: once you've installed ubuntu-desktop you have to log out and then in the log-in screen select gnome from "sessions"
[21:52] <sauceror> hi.
[21:52] <Odd-rationale> But isn't there a separate server kernel?
[21:52] <prince_jammys> raiderxx: you can also see it graphically in Applications->Accessories->Disk Usage
[21:52] <sauceror> can anyone help me configure fglrx drivers for ATI Radeon 9200 on Gutsy Gibbon?
[21:52]  * Lasivian reboots to see if that changes anything
[21:52] <sauceror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI I was using this guide, but it failed me at aticonfig :(
[21:53] <Y-Town> fx|RabBit: so no real need to run ubuntu server since I would want the windows then ihh
[21:53] <grezer34> ok that did it
[21:53] <grezer34> now I hope this will work
[21:53] <grezer34> :)
[21:53] <Sonderblade> why does vino-session keep respawning when i try to kill it?
[21:53] <sauceror> hi, can anyone help me configure fglrx drivers for ATI Radeon 9200 on Gutsy Gibbon?
[21:53] <sauceror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI I was using this guide, but it failed me at aticonfig :(
[21:53] <fx|RabBit> Y-Town: if you install an ubuntu server and run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop you got the services plus desktop or you do it the other way arround, its basically the same
[21:53] <raiderxx> Thank you
[21:54] <danand> jacobian_ - you can prevent a module from being loaded by adding it to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file. you can add the name of the correct module you want to load at boot to /etc/modules. Is that what you wanted to do?
[21:54] <nickthorley> does anyone know why my system may have lost my graphics card settings from the last time i used it
[21:54] <Y-Town> fx|RabBit: thank you
[21:54] <soderqvist> To be able to play counterstrike do I have to install directx on my ubuntu?
[21:54] <raiderxx> And Im also having problems getting my nvidia drivers
[21:54] <fx|RabBit> Y-Town: np:)
[21:54] <grezer34> now is there a way to uninstall Xubuntu ??
[21:54] <prince_jammys> raiderxx: do you want a link to a guide?
[21:55] <raiderxx> That would be awesome
[21:55] <prince_jammys> grezer34: once you are logged in gnome, do sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[21:55] <fx|RabBit> soderqvist: there is no such thing like dirctx on ubuntu linux uses opengl which would be the pendant to directx
[21:55] <prince_jammys> !nvidia | raiderxx: check if this is useful
[21:55] <ubotu> raiderxx: check if this is useful: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:55] <DonkeyKong101> howcome i cant "drag and drop" a file from my desktop....says i have no permision?
[21:55] <grezer34> ok
[21:55] <Starnestommy> wine can emulate some directx features
[21:55] <Darknes1> ola pessoal
[21:55] <grezer34> that sounds easy enough
[21:56] <fx|RabBit> soderqvist: if counterstrkie has no native linux installer you might want to use cedega or wine to be able to play it
[21:56] <kenny> hey duuuudes
[21:56] <fx|RabBit> !wine soderqvist
[21:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine soderqvist - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:56] <fx|RabBit> !cedega soderqvist
[21:56] <levander> If I ran a cron job last night, but haven't set anything up with email on my system, where does the output of the cron job go?
[21:56] <soderqvist> fx|RabBit: yeah I have used wine and followed guides to install steam
[21:56] <kenny> goodbye dudes
[21:56] <grezer34> im getting these errors though " /var/lib/scrollkeeper/fr/scrollkeeper_extended_cl.xml:3242: parser error : Extra content at the end of the document
[21:56] <grezer34> "
[21:56] <FD_F> I'm installing ubuntu 7.10 and I'm getting an error: Can't install GRUB on hd0. At 93% completed.
[21:57] <prince_jammys> fx|RabBit: you have to use | or > after the keyword to direct ubotu's message
[21:57] <fx|RabBit> soderqvist: so whats teh prob?
[21:57] <`paul> how do i run a script but should output nothing im try to run it thru init.d
[21:57] <fx|RabBit> prince_jammys: thx for the hint
[21:57] <Odd-rationale> grezer34: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[21:57] <Odd-rationale> grezer34: That link will tell you how to get rid of gnome.
[21:58] <prince_jammys> soderqvist: have you tried installing directx from wine?
[21:58] <sauceror> hi, can anyone help me configure fglrx drivers for ATI Radeon 9200 on 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon?
[21:58] <ArthurArchnix> Paul if it's empty how will you know the script is run?
[21:58] <Darknes1> hello... I need to transfer my documents from windows to Linux and I wish to use a migrate tool. Somebody know how do I do it?
[21:58] <Seb962> Darknes1: What kind of documents?
[21:58] <fx|RabBit> !cedega > soderqvist
[21:58] <ArthurArchnix> `paul: ^^
[21:59] <fx|RabBit> umm... wheres ubotu gone?
[21:59] <ubuntuisloved> Darknes1: why not mount NTFS in ubuntu then copy over
[21:59] <prince_jammys> fx|RabBit: that does it as a pm
[21:59] <Seb962> I've just installed ubuntu and it recognized all my windows files.
[21:59] <Y-Town>  anyone know a good website to learn about the linux directory structure.  I would really like to learn what each has to do with the system
[21:59] <brobostigon> !wine | soderqvist
[21:59] <ubotu> soderqvist: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[21:59] <`paul> ArthurArchnix: yes?
[21:59] <fx|RabBit> prince_jammys: humm i c...
[21:59] <ntr> Where can I find a list of the files included in a standard encrypted root fs initrd-file?
[21:59] <fx|RabBit> ah
[21:59] <fx|RabBit> kkk
[21:59] <fx|RabBit> hehe
[22:00] <ArthurArchnix> "how do i run a script but should output nothing im try to run it thru init.d" >> Paul if it's empty how will you know the script is run?
[22:00] <prince_jammys> yeah | puts it in the channel, and > sends it as PM
[22:00] <iter> hi all, looking at a 6.06LTS box here, I notice there are two init.d scripts, mdadm and mdadm-raid... what's the deal?
[22:00] <prince_jammys> !anything
[22:00] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[22:00] <Darknes1> Seb962: Everything, i need to migrate to favorite IE to favorite firefox, e-mails from outlook to thunderbird and other things
[22:00] <iter> (this is on more than one box btw)
[22:00] <fx|RabBit> Y-Town: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[22:01] <fx|RabBit> Y-Town: google is ypur freind btw...
[22:01] <danand> ArthurArchnix - i think paul may possibly mean he does not want his script to output anything to stdout, stderr etc
[22:01] <Lasivian> how do I tell if a driver is being loaded?
[22:01] <|Zippo|> someone installed ubuntu on a notebook and got the error: Cannot allocate resource in region 7???
[22:01] <Darknes1> ubuntuisloved: Because is not to me
[22:01] <Lasivian> or could be loaded
[22:01] <Lasivian> I can't figure out how to narrow down why a pcmcia card is not loading a driver
[22:02] <danand> Lasivian - lsmod should list all loaded modules
[22:02] <nickthorley> does everyone install the flash plugin from the macromedia site rather than a repo
[22:02] <fx|RabBit> prince_jammys: yeah i saw the difference when brobostigon wrote the other message
[22:02] <ubuntuisloved> Darknes1: why not use samba to copy to ubuntu
[22:02] <Darknes1> Seb962: I know that have this tool... But I only can to use it when I'm installing
[22:02] <Odd-rationale> nickthorley: I dont
[22:02] <FD_F> I'm installing ubuntu 7.10 and I'm getting an error: Can't install GRUB on hd0. At 93% completed.
[22:02] <fx|RabBit> danand: which would be 2&>1 then...
[22:02] <Lasivian> danand: thanks
[22:02] <danand> Lasivian - try lsmod | grep name_of_module to help you out a bit
[22:02] <tyranos> how can i get firefox and nautilus make click sounds like in windows
[22:02] <brobostigon> fx|RabBit: sorry??
[22:02] <prince_jammys> fx|RabBit: you can also /msg ubotu to have a private session with it and see what different keywords do
[22:02] <Lasivian> it's listed there
[22:03] <nickthorley> odd-rationale: I have the one from the repo but watching vids off utube isnt possible
[22:03] <fx|RabBit> prince_jammys: have you coded ubotu? gg
[22:03] <danand> fx|RabBit - yes - 2&>1 > /dev/null i think
[22:03] <prince_jammys> fx|RabBit: no, just a ubotu fan
[22:03] <DOOM_NX> does anyone know how i can transfer files with xvncviewer?...
[22:03] <tomtommy> how can I get OpenOffice to offer correctly spelled words for misspelled words?
[22:03] <Odd-rationale> nickthorley: You can try installing the one from adobe, but it works fine for me.
[22:03] <fx|RabBit> hehe well it is a good thing indeed
[22:03] <prince_jammys> !botsnack
[22:03] <ubotu> Yum!  LOL
[22:04] <nickthorley> odd-rationale: so you can  watch utube vids from standard flash player
[22:05] <sauceror> hi, can anyone help me configure fglrx drivers for ATI Radeon 9200 on 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon?
[22:05] <Odd-rationale> nickthorley: Yes. let me double-check...
[22:05] <fx|RabBit> tomtommy: nope i cant hear written words:p
[22:05] <sauceror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI I was using this guide, but it failed me at aticonfig :(
[22:05] <tomtommy> fx|RabBit,  :)
[22:05] <PriceChild> !hi
[22:05] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:05] <`paul> ArthurArchnix: well i have this perl script that i want to run on evry start up so i put it in init.d but  when i run /etc/init.d/myperlscript start it outputs something
[22:05] <tomtommy> fx|RabBit, In MS Office it offers a correctly spelled word if it finds a wrong spelled word.  How I get OO to do that?
[22:06] <Odd-rationale> tomtommy: Does right-clicking the word do it?
[22:06] <fx|RabBit> tomtommy: frankly spoken no idea...
[22:06] <ArthurArchnix> Can't you just refer to the perl script through /etc/rc.local?
[22:06] <tomtommy> Odd-rationale, no, right click doesnt show any correct or alternate words
[22:06] <ArthurArchnix> `paul ^
[22:06] <tomtommy> Odd-rationale, any other ideas?
[22:06] <mrpoundsign> hello. :) just curious, as a server administrator, is there a way to have a list of package updates emailed to an administrator address when they are available? Something along the lines of the portaudit package for FreeBSD...
[22:06] <tomtommy> fx|RabBit, whos frank? :P
[22:06] <iter> anyone here using mdadm for software raid ?
[22:06] <prince_jammys> read the OpenOffice help?
[22:07] <Odd-rationale> tomtommy: Right-click- autocorrect ? Does it for me.
[22:07] <Odd-rationale> tomtommy: Right-click --> autocorrect
[22:07] <fx|RabBit> mrpoundsign: not actually buit if you find a solution be so kind to forward it to me
[22:07] <tomtommy> Odd-rationale, i dont see autocorrect when I right click
[22:07] <tim__> mrpoundsign: write a shell script to do it, it shouldn;t be too hard
[22:08] <Slue_Gniffer> Has anyone successfully gotten DreamLX to run on Ubuntu or any other Dreamcast-Emulator?
 I have a router installation running 2.6.22 and a simple iptables NAT on a PIII 733.  The user of this NAT is complaining that when he bypasses the NAT, he gets 4.8Mbps, while he only gets 2.4Mbps through the NAT.  For the purposes of the test, he removed both the NAT and one terminal from the LAN and connected them directly together.  What can I do to reduce the bottleneck?
[22:08] <gil> Really dumb question: How do I set up my monitor's refresh rate - is there an x86 config gui anywhere? It'll only let me set my monitor's refresh rate up to 60hz!
[22:08] <tomtommy> Odd-rationale, how did you get autocorrect to appear as u right click?
[22:08] <Odd-rationale> tomtommy: Are you right-clicking the word with the red squiggly?
[22:08] <tomtommy> Odd-rationale, yes
[22:08] <mrpoundsign> tim__: Yeah, would be nice to just know which ones have upstream packages with security fixes. :)
[22:08] <gnychis> where are the keyboard shortcuts stored in clear text?
[22:08] <tomtommy> Odd-rationale, and this is  a newly installed Ubuntu, 2 days ago
[22:08] <prince_jammys> tomtommy: the word is underlined in red, right?
[22:08] <tomtommy> Odd-rationale, first time im running OO,  did u install something to get autocorrect to appear?
[22:09] <tomtommy> prince_jammys, yes it is, red squiggly line
[22:09] <UJustLostTheGame> it's true.
[22:09] <UJustLostTheGame> >:D
[22:09] <tomtommy> prince_jammys, but when I right click, i dont see any autocorrect or other words
[22:09] <w00tsauce22> hi room, i'm having trouble playing videos :(
[22:09] <prince_jammys> tomtommy: and when you right click directly on top of the word do you get a meu?
[22:09] <Odd-rationale> tomtommy: No, it worked like that "right out of the box" try installing the OO dict for your language.
[22:09] <prince_jammys> menu
[22:09] <fx|RabBit> !nvidia | gil
[22:09] <ubotu> gil: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:09] <nickthorley> odd-rationale: sorry to be a pain - did it work?
[22:10] <UJustLostTheGame> <---
[22:10] <aLeSD> hi all
[22:10] <Odd-rationale> nickthorley: My internet is slow, hold on...
[22:10] <fx|RabBit> gil then use the driver to set up the refresh rate like with nvidia-settings command
[22:10] <gil> fx|RabBit thanks - I have the non oss drivers installed - I need to somehow stop Ubuntu restrciting my refresh rate - my monitor is an old non pnp MItsubishi Diamond Pro 21TX and go higher than 60 hz :)
[22:10] <aLeSD> someone could suggest me a good latex editor in ubuntu ?
[22:10] <gil> fx|RabBit okay got it... I'll try now
[22:10] <tomtommy> prince_jammys, yuou are a genius :) u made me realise my error LOL!  Listen to this....  I was always highlighting the word first and thats why it didnt give alternate words.  But when I dont highlight the word and just right click on the word, it gives me other correctly spelled words :)
[22:10] <tomtommy> prince_jammys, thanks :)
[22:10] <gnychis> where are keyboard shortcuts in gconf-editor?
[22:11] <prince_jammys> tomtommy: :)
[22:11] <nickthorley> odd-rationale: oh ok sorry - I have just checked and my machine has the firefox macromedia flash 9 plugin installed from the repo
[22:11] <tomtommy> Odd-rationale, i was highlithing the word first, thats why it gave a different menu :P
[22:11] <Lasivian> anyone ever dealt with the hostap driver for an orinoco card?
[22:11] <prince_jammys> tomtommy: right, you were probably getting "cut" "paste" and so on
[22:11] <tomtommy> prince_jammys, so yeah, i dont highlight the word, just right click on it :P  how silly of me :P
[22:11] <tomtommy> prince_jammys, EXACTLY LOL
[22:12] <fx|RabBit> gil in that case i suggest you google three values for that monitors specs: vsync hrefresh and resolutions and add that manually to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:12] <ArthurArchnix> if I use the alternate installer, can I avoid installing the bootloade? I've already got one.
[22:12] <DOOM_NX> does anyone know how i can transfer files with xvncviewer?...
[22:12] <gil> fx|RabBit thanks
[22:12] <tomtommy> prince_jammys, I use OO every day, you have no idea how happy I am right now having that work for me :) thanks mate!
[22:12] <fx|RabBit> gil youre very welcome:9
[22:13] <joao_> hello
[22:13] <tomtommy> Odd-rationale, did u see what I was doing wrong?
[22:13] <prince_jammys> gil: if all else fails, the refresh rate can also be edited directly in the file:: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:13] <Odd-rationale> tomtommy: Yes... ^_^
[22:13] <tomtommy> Odd-rationale, because I was highliging the word, it gave me wtong menu, paste etc
[22:14] <tomtommy> duh :P
[22:14] <gil> prince_jammys Just before I do it - there are no weird ctrl-alt-backspace crashing x server issues with Ubuntu are there?
[22:14] <prince_jammys> gil: do what? edit the file?
[22:14] <Puma> gh
[22:15] <gil> prince_jammys yeah can I restart x-server the lazy way after I edit it? :)
[22:15] <fx|RabBit> gil basically not but in that case x is quite bulletproof in ubuntu and will try to failsagfe
[22:15] <prince_jammys> gil: if you are going to edit the file - first back it up with :  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak        , then edit it and the restart the way you said
[22:15] <gil> fx|RabBit / prince_jammys - I've found what I need in the nvidia-settings GUI so thanks for the advice.... however I had to apt-get it... it wasn't included with the binary non-free drivers... is that correct?
[22:15] <fx|RabBit> rigth!
[22:16] <fx|RabBit> basically it shouldd be included
[22:16] <Odd-rationale> nickthorley: OK, yes. it works for me.
[22:16] <fx|RabBit> ok, sleepingtime, night everybody:]
[22:16] <phaedral> really struggling with my usb drive in gnome; totally intermittent auto-detection
[22:16] <nickthorley> odd-rationale: ok thanks - presume I am missing a plugin somewhere - thanks for your help
[22:17] <gil> fx|RabBit okay well nm, at least I got it fixed now - for some reason my resolution had defaulted to 1680- x 1050 :)
[22:17] <fx|RabBit> gil yepp which is what matters
[22:17] <prince_jammys> gil: if it works and you got it from apt, you should be fine
[22:17] <gil> fx / prince - thanks for all of your help :D
[22:17] <some1--> anyone used TFTP.. I installed it, it runs on port 69, when I try to use the client and get any file from it, it says "FORBIDDEN DIRECTORY" .... ANY ideas?
[22:17] <fx|RabBit> np m8:)
[22:18] <Brennnan> hey guys!
[22:18] <Brennnan> Whats Up?
[22:18] <prince_jammys> !hi
[22:18] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:18] <greasy_leftwing> hey
[22:18] <nwahsadude> hi
[22:19] <Brennnan> apt-get moo makes me laugh? what's that?
[22:19] <Lasivian> Brennnan: My blood pressure, that's what's up :)
[22:19] <prince_jammys> Brennnan: it's an easter egg
[22:19] <Brennnan> nice
[22:19] <Brennnan> whts it do?
[22:19] <prince_jammys> Brennnan: nothing
[22:19] <greasy_leftwing> I thought it would be a good to get involved
[22:19] <DigitalNinja> where does udev store device info?
[22:19] <greasy_leftwing> seems like the way to go to me
[22:19] <prince_jammys> Brennnan: try "aptitude moo"
[22:20] <Brennnan> nice easter egg
[22:20]  * Lasivian has been fighting his network card for days, trying not to give in to putting Windows back on to do what unix cannot
[22:20] <prince_jammys> Brennnan: and after that do "aptitude moo -v"
[22:20] <prince_jammys> Brennnan: and then keep adding v's
[22:20] <mrpoundsign> jipes. I found debsecan -- and it says a lot of packages are out of date. :(
[22:21] <alesan>  somebody knows where thunderbirds keeps SMTP passwords?
[22:22] <mrpoundsign> alesan: I would love to help, but I really dont want to help someone hack. ;) Even unintentionally.
[22:23] <Reenen> fx|RabBit: this installed it... (inside the folder) sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[22:23] <IPGHOST> hi buddies ,
[22:23] <IPGHOST> any one can tell me how i can read .docx files ???
[22:23] <Reenen> fx|RabBit: but now... I don't see how I can run it
[22:23] <nickthorley> can anyone help advise me on which plugins I need to install to get youtube vids loading in firefox
[22:23] <timbounceback> IPGHOST: google docx converter
[22:23] <Odd-rationale> IPGHOST: Buy, office 2007!
[22:23] <DonkeyKong101> is it possible to drag and drop a folder into another folder, withought being told u dont have permission?
[22:23] <brobostigon> IPGHOST: have you tried openoffice??
[22:24] <Reenen> IPGHOST: Open the .docx file in MS-Office 2007 and save it as an old-school office document
[22:24] <Lasivian> can anyone help me figure out why the hostap drivers and my orinoco card aren't getting along? :)
[22:24] <IPGHOST> man im on ubuntu dont wna stuck in MS products
[22:24] <zossso> nickthorley: need flash plugin, I believe
[22:24] <Odd-rationale> IPGHOST: Seriously, though go to www.zamzar.com and convert it to .doc or .odt
[22:24] <Lasivian> *grovel*, *beg*, *offer virgins*
[22:24] <Brennnan> hey, i'm new to ubuntu. I'm having trouble installing tar.gz files. any help?
[22:24] <brobostigon> IPGHOST: try openoffice
[22:24] <greasy_leftwing> here Las.. have a  biscuit
[22:24] <greasy_leftwing> oh.. lol
[22:24] <IPGHOST> ok
[22:24] <greasy_leftwing> you already took it!
[22:25] <nickthorley> zossso: as far as i am aware its installed
[22:25] <IPGHOST> i use staroffice on XP if i have to die with windows :)
[22:25] <mrpoundsign> IPGHOST: <sarcasm>Read the spec, and write a little perl script to interpret it</sarcasm><nosarcasm>OpenOffice can probably do it.</nosarcasm>
[22:25] <prince_jammys> Lasivian: post everything you did and the specs of your card and driver.  it's the best way to increase the odds of getting an answer faster
[22:25] <Lasivian> greasy_leftwing: part of me just really cries at the idea of going back to MS when I feel so close to making it work
[22:25] <Reenen> Brennnan: that's exactly what my problem was
[22:25] <Reenen> Brennnan: please tell me more...
[22:25] <hvgotcodes> can someone please post the relevant part of conkyrc to get artwiz fonts going?
[22:25] <Lasivian> brilliance jammys
[22:25] <zossso> nickthorley: hmm.  Thought that would do it.
[22:26] <alesan> mrpoundsign: if I wanted to hack I could just dump the whole profile
[22:26] <alesan> mrpoundsign: the situation is the following:
[22:26] <alesan> I deleted my smtp account and now I do not remember what password I was using for SMTP auth
[22:26] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to get bluetooth working
[22:26] <prince_jammys> Lasivian: i really know nothing of this, but if you post that stuff I (and others) will search the internet for a solution
[22:26] <alesan> another guy has is working (with my same account) but no idea what is the password. I guess I might copy a file or sometihng to get back sending emails
[22:27] <chad_> is anyone familiar with linux mce?
[22:27] <mrpoundsign> alesan: is there a reason you cannot contact your provider to set up a new password?
[22:27] <sansaro> hello
[22:27] <prince_jammys> Lasivian: also post any error messages you've seen, or any hints as to what isn't working
[22:27] <Brennnan> hey
[22:27] <DigitalNinja> I plug in my Belkin USB adapter and things don't work. If I run lsusb it gives me nothing. When I remove the Belkin USB bluetooth adapter lsusb works. Whta's going on here?
[22:27] <zossso> DonkeyKong101: Create a launcher with `gksudo nautilus` as the command
[22:27] <alesan> mrpoundsign: at 23.27?
[22:28] <arthy> Hi, my computer was running fine on Feisty, but whenever I use Gutsy the non-root hard drives make a noise when being accessed which sounds like they keep spinning up then down, and this has already killed one drive :( Any ideas what could be up?
[22:28] <ConstyXIV> are there any ready-built packages of GTK/WebKit and Epiphany/WebKit for gutsy?
[22:28] <DonkeyKong101> zosso: how do i do that?
[22:28]  * Lasivian is trying to get an orinoco card working on 7.10 xubuntu. It worked with the normal orinoco driver but had no monitor mode. Downloaded the hostap driver (it shows up under lsmod). I have blacklisted the orinoco driver (it does not show up under lsmod). when I insert the card I can see it under cardctl, but it does NOT come up under ifconfig/iwconfig
[22:28] <alesan> mrpoundsign: anyway, maybe I have found a way... thunderbird seems to have a option to show the saved passowords
[22:28] <sansaro> guys is there away to make ubuntu install in small size ? ( like nlite for xp  ) thats allow u to make the windows at the size u want by delete some stuff etc etc
[22:28] <zossso> DonkeyKong101: right-click on desktop -> Create Launcher
[22:29] <DigitalNinja> ubuntu+1
[22:29] <Lasivian> card model is pc24E-H-FC, comes up in cardctl as Lucent and I know it's Hermes I, firmware 6.10
[22:29] <tato> ciao
[22:29] <mrpoundsign> alesan: sorry. Not saying you /are/ doing anything wrong, just can't help someone anonymously :)
[22:30] <zossso> DonkeyKong101: it will open a nautilus window that has superuser permissions.  be careful with it
[22:30] <sarahelsawaf> hello
[22:30] <dny> hi :]
[22:30] <Lasivian> with the old orinoco driver it did come up fine in ifconfig/iwconfig, but had no monitor function
[22:30] <sarahelsawaf> what is this?
[22:31] <vall> hi all can any one sugest a program for 3d cgi models for film ect
[22:31] <dny> irc room? ;o
[22:31] <dny> val: blender? :p
[22:31] <zossso> DonkeyKong101: Here is a relevant post -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:31] <m1r> evening
[22:31] <vall> !blender
[22:31] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[22:32] <bluefox83> !alsa
[22:32] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:32] <DonkeyKong101> zosso..thanks...it worked
[22:32] <bluefox83> !headphones
[22:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about headphones - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:32] <zossso> DonkeyKong101: sure
[22:32] <bluefox83> hrm
[22:32] <Lasivian> !nothing
[22:32] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[22:32] <dny> haha ;o
[22:32] <Lasivian> !everything
[22:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:32] <joobaby> !truth
[22:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:32] <Pici> !botabuse
[22:32] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[22:33]  * Lasivian hugs ubotu
[22:33] <Lasivian> stress-relief
[22:33] <alesan> mrpoundsign: well I may understand what you mean if I was asking how to crack WE passwords or how to use a sendmail bug to get root on a remote system
[22:33] <vall> dny:  thank you looks like it is just what i need
[22:34] <alesan> but, thunderbird has an option called "show passwords" I just used that and here I am using again my SMTP
[22:34] <alesan> for who is interested
[22:34] <dny> vall: mhmm, it's supposedly real good.  i've yet to use it much, haven't had the time to learn it. ;o
[22:34] <Reenen> where dis my "JRE"?
[22:34] <alesan> edit -> preferences -> privacy -> passwords -> edit saved passwords will show all the passwords in thunderbird, pop3, imap, smtp
[22:34] <Reenen> *is
[22:35] <vall> dny:  well i will let you know how it goes thank you agn
[22:35] <mrpoundsign> alesan: for all I know you are on your girlfriends computer trying to invade her privacy -- though I don't suspect this, I have no way to know either way. :) Glad you found a solution, tho.
[22:35] <isaacj87> if i configure moblock not to insert iptables rules, can i use firestarter?
[22:35] <hvgotcodes> can anyone help me get conky to use artwiz font?
[22:35] <dny> vall: :]
[22:36] <Bittarman> When i try to set up my atheros wifi card wlanconfig keeps saying ioctl: no such device... help?!?!?!
[22:36] <muuddflap> anyone having connection problems with pidgin
[22:36] <Lennybuntu> hi guys.. weird thing just happened.  I'm running hardy alpha on my laptop.. I just downloaded the updates, rebooted, and now my screen is set to its dimmest setting.  When i use the function keys to adjust the brightness, it gets brighter as I turn it down, like the settings are reversed.  any thoughts?
[22:37] <peace> installed newest nvidia drivers... cannot play any 3d games !!! cannot watch nvidia-settings - please configure xconfig.. im not sure what must i do.. 139.09drivers..
[22:37] <PriceChild> !hardy | Lennybuntu
[22:37] <ubotu> Lennybuntu: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:38] <peace> installed newest nvidia drivers... cannot play any 3d games !!! cannot watch nvidia-settings - please configure xconfig.. im not sure what must i do.. 139.09drivers..
[22:39] <mrpoundsign> alesan: I will give a suggestion, tho. In order to protect your passwords from prying eyes, I would recommend you set up a master password to encrypt your on-disk passwords.
[22:40] <Lasivian> why does a pyublic domain OS need a "code name"? heh
[22:40] <Ninno> hi
[22:41] <bluefox83> Lasivian, so you know which release version you are getting
[22:41] <Ninno> i have problem with lvm partition lost
[22:41] <greasy_leftwing> in case you dont recognise the real one?
[22:41] <osiris__> hi all, im having problems with muting or controlling sound it does nothing using the shortcut keys on my laptop, also i have a problem with font size in gdm and titlebars they're massive!
[22:41] <brobostigon> Lasivian: vista had the codenme longhorn
[22:41] <greasy_leftwing> I thought it was pronghorn
[22:41] <JohnRobert> is there a way to tile windows in ubuntu?
[22:42] <peace> tile ?
[22:43] <Odd-rationale> JohnRobert: in kde, yes. Not sure about gnome or xfce
[22:43] <peace> what do you mean tile
[22:43] <soundray> JohnRobert: not if you use the standard window manager metacity. It provides few options for window placement (one-size-fits-all approach)
[22:44] <peace> can anyone help me a  bit?
[22:44] <JohnRobert> ta
[22:44] <Jahromeo> hi guys ubuntu question in application menu under internet - xchat gnome is still there despite being removed via apt-get , how can i remove it from that menu?
[22:44] <soundray> peace: arrange the windows like floor tiles
[22:44] <peace> installed newest nvidia drivers... cannot play any 3d games !!! cannot watch nvidia-settings - please configure xconfig.. im not sure what must i do.. 139.09drivers..
[22:44] <osfameron> I'm really tired of my laptop *sometimes* bothering to wake up after suspend to RAM
[22:45] <osfameron> how can I debug what went wrong?
[22:45] <Jack_Sparrow> osiris__, Your shortcut keys are part of a non-standard keyboard and would need to be manually edited...
[22:45] <tyranos> i m sorry to post 3 times but ,is there a way to make ubuntu use sounds like in windows like when opening a window
[22:45] <Jahromeo> guys where is the applications menu stored?
[22:45] <pajamian> Hi everyone, I'm having problems printing from openoffice.  If I print a test page from the printer configuration it works fine, but when I tray to print from openoffice it doesn't give me any errors, but nothing comes out of the printer.
[22:45] <CannibalM> hey
[22:45] <CannibalM> can anyone else see this?
[22:45] <dny> cannibal: yes
[22:45] <soundray> Jahromeo: it should have vanished when you log in the next time.
[22:45] <CannibalM> or is my connection dead.
[22:45] <CannibalM> thank you.
[22:46] <dny> mhmm
[22:46] <CannibalM> Apparently I can't browse the web suddenly,
[22:46] <CannibalM> but can do everything else.
[22:46] <Jahromeo> pretty sure ive restarted since then
[22:46] <CannibalM> wtf
[22:46] <soundray> Jahromeo: if not, use the alacarte menu editor (System-Preferences-Main Menu)
[22:46] <Jack_Sparrow> tyranos, Like system   pref  sound.. a few options in there
[22:46] <dny> happens to me a lot :/
[22:46] <Jahromeo> any dir that is stored in?
[22:46] <osiris__> Jack_Sparrow, weird, because the fancy on screen display comes up when i press the controls
[22:46] <Jahromeo> thanks very much sound - exactly what i was looking for
[22:47] <DOOM_NX> i enabled the magnifying glass by acident (Win+R)
[22:47] <DOOM_NX> how do i turn it off?
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> CannibalM, Please dont use enter twice for every post and the shorthand.. wtX is not for use in a family friendly channel thanks
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> osiris__, THey are still not defined correctly for the functions you expect
[22:48] <osfameron> ah!
[22:48] <steve176> hi. I need to set JAVA_HOME. I've added it to /etc/environment which works fine when I log on locally, but not if I log on remotely via ssh. any ideas?
[22:48] <osfameron> looking in /var/log/messages, it looks like the last time I opened the laptop lid, it did *not* register an resume event at all
[22:48] <osiris__> Jack_Sparrow, ok, what about the large font problem? any ideas?
[22:48] <Jahromeo> is there a version of kataput for ubuntu ? e.g whats the shortcut key because alt-f2 and typing gnome terminal is pissing me off
[22:48] <tyranos> Jack_Sparrow, yeah like that but i only get sound on login and logout
[22:48] <Jack_Sparrow> osiris__, not sure what you are describing, do you have a screenshot posted?
[22:49] <Al-Hur> Hi, I want to have widgets/gadgets to the right ti show my my system performance (RAM/CPU). What do I do?
[22:49] <soundray> steve176: set it in $HOME/.bashrc or run 'export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java' each time
[22:49] <brobostigon> Al-Hur: have a look at gkrellm,
[22:50] <pajamian> anyone know much about printing?  why it might work in one app and not another?
[22:50] <Al-Hur> brobostigon: do I aptget install it?
[22:51] <brobostigon> Al-Hur: sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[22:51] <steve176> soundray: It needs to be a global setting. $HOME/.bashrc would only be for my user. Same for export presumably
[22:51] <soundray> steve176: /etc/profile then
[22:51] <soundray> steve176: I'm surprised it doesn't seem to read /etc/environment, though
[22:51] <Al-Hur> I'm on it.
[22:52] <catmistake> hey... is anyone running  ubuntu w/ a 17" dell flatpanel and ati rage 128 graphics card? and if so, can I have your xorg.conf file?
[22:52] <steve176> soundray: it's really weird (and very annoying!)
[22:52] <linduxed> is there a tool or a package that can do the autodetection of the livecd that sets up your system? i dont want to reinstall the entire thing...but i know that when i use the livecd stuff that doesnt work now...works
[22:52] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: xgl has mega performance problems with games and the like it seems
[22:52] <steve176> soundray: it also seems a bit inconsistent. The machines I'm contecting too are Ubuntu 7.10 Server Edition. Ubuntu 7.10 desktop seems to work
[22:52] <soundray> steve176: do you want to wait while I reproduce it here?
[22:52] <osiris__> Jack_Sparrow, This is the same problem but they only have quick fixes... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=583915&highlight=title+bar+font&page=3
[22:53] <densone> anyone here run Gutsy on a Mac Mini?
[22:53] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, Compiz needs to be turned off for decent gaming
[22:53] <steve176> soundray: if you don't mind that would be great. Please note though I'm only getting the problem with 7.10 server edition
[22:53] <brobostigon> densone: i have gutsy on an ibook g3
[22:53] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: there is no decent way to get ati going on aiglx?
[22:53] <soundray> steve176: I've got both in virtual machines. Give me a few minutes.
[22:53] <webulator70> because ati claims to support it
[22:54] <catmistake> brobostigon:  can I have your xorg.conf? put it in pastie?
[22:54] <NeT_DeMoN_> my screen blacks out everytime i log out, is there a solutuion?
[22:54] <knoppix> how can i mount an ntfs volume?
[22:54] <brobostigon> catmistake: why??
[22:54] <jkliment> hi all
[22:55] <RoAkSoAx> knoppix: mount -t ntfs /dev/sdaX /mount/point
[22:55] <fredmv> Anyone familar with getting wireless internet working on a laptop under Ubuntu?
[22:55] <catmistake> Lost my xserver... on boot, see the splash, when the xerver starts up, just blackness... not starting right.
[22:55] <jkliment> does any1 have experience with substruct on ubuntu?
[22:55] <steve176> fredmv: what laptop?
[22:55] <prince_jammys> knoppix: you can mount it from a terminal or add an entry to /etc/fstab to have it mount automatically
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> webulator70, I showed you the best setup for ati that I am aware of...
[22:56] <fredmv> steve176, running on a Dell Inspiron 1525.   Evidently they use Broadcom chips.
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[22:56] <densone> going to try and install gutsy now
[22:56] <densone> will see what happens
[22:56] <steve176> fredmv: you're in luck. I did that last week
[22:56] <NeT_DeMoN_> why does my screen black out everytime i log out until i press the power button, i have a desktop
[22:56] <webulator70> Jack_Sparrow: ok, thanks anyway, ill likely just get an nvidia 9600 then
[22:56] <steve176> fredmv: took 3 days !!!
[22:56] <fredmv> steve176, I got near the end in this tutorial: http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Tech/Wireless/Truemobile_ndiswrapper#Basic_Information but things don't seem to be working.
[22:56] <fredmv> steve176, lol.. please feel free to divulge how you figured this out.
[22:56] <steve176> fredmv: that's the one I followed, but there were a few extra steps
[22:56] <fredmv> steve, just msg me.
[22:57] <phantomcircuitb> how can i mount it read only?
[22:57] <RequinB4> NeT_DeMon - maybe a useless question - is acpi on?
[22:57] <NeT_DeMoN_> i dont know, how do i find out?
[22:58] <patrick__> Ubuntu rocks!! just had to mention it :)
[22:58] <soundray> steve176: it works here, even in server
[22:58] <RequinB4> NeT_DeMoN_ that probably means yes
[22:58] <fredmv> steve176, what are the 'extra steps'?
[22:58] <Jack_Sparrow> fredmv, bcm43xx are not a problem  the bcm943xx are harder.
[22:58] <NeT_DeMoN_> alright
[22:58] <Brennnan> what is "apt-get moo makes me laugh"
[22:58] <userx532> i installed ubuntu and it borked my power switch. i demand linux devs pay me 15 dollars
[22:58] <soundray> steve176: could be something stupid, like a missing newline at the end of the file
[22:58] <NeT_DeMoN_> RequinB4: how do i fix it?
[22:58] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hi short & simple question, how can I do a timed shutdown completely silent, ie NO WARNING MESSAGES or beeps ?
[22:58] <Lasivian> there, more details of my Orinoco issue: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5292/
[22:59] <steve176> fredmv: After you follow the dell tutorial did you see a wireless connection in network manager?
[22:59] <RequinB4> Net_DeMoN - Can't really help you, but acpi is the power manager, if it is off then you would get the problem you describe.  Just a thought
[22:59] <ep2011> Does anyone know where to get the areao icons? I can't find them online
[22:59] <fredmv> steve176, nope, still just "Wired" and "Modem"
[22:59] <peace> installed newest nvidia drivers... cannot play any 3d games !!! cannot watch nvidia-settings - please configure xconfig.. im not sure what must i do.. 139.09drivers..
[22:59] <NeT_DeMoN_> RequinB4: alright, thanks
[22:59] <steve176> soundray: you need a new line at the end of /etc/environment?
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> userx532, That isnt possible...
[23:00] <steve176> fredmv: You installed the windows XP drivers downloaded from the dell web site?
[23:00] <Lasivian> I think I might have missed something installing the driver, but I assume the synaptic package would do everything
[23:00] <steve176> fredmv: the vista ones don't work
[23:00] <soundray> steve176: um, what I mean is that the last line, if its not empty, should end in a newline character
[23:00] <steve176> soundray: I'll try it thx
[23:00] <Jack_Sparrow> peace, What nvidia card..
[23:00] <peace> 6800ultra
[23:00] <hotmonkeyluv> what does the -p option do in this command: mkdir -p  ~/compiz/ ?
[23:00] <fredmv> steve176, I'll verify that.  I did install a Windows driver, although perhaps it was the Vista one.  So XP is required.. ?
[23:00] <RequinB4> Brennenan - 'apt-get moo' is a program easter egg.  It displays a cow in ASCII art.
[23:01] <steve176> fredmv: yes.
[23:01] <soundray> hotmonkeyluv: it creates your home directory, should it not exist ;)
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> peace, the 6000 nvidia work great with default restricted drivers from the repos..
[23:01] <soundray> hotmonkeyluv: man mkdir
[23:01] <steve176> fredmv: did you find the "no fuss" ubuntu article?
[23:01] <userx532> ubunpoo borked my power switch
[23:01] <peace> now apps runs a bit slowly as if with no gfx..but no fatal x error now..!
[23:01] <SlimG> Does anyone know of a reason for why the internet-connections works out-of-box from the Ubuntu 7.10 liveCD, but not after installalling it on a disk and booting from it?
[23:01] <fredmv> steve176, do you know offhand if R174291.exe  is the correct driver package?  That's the file I got off the dell support site.
[23:01] <fredmv> steve176, haven't seen it, but I'll look it up.
[23:01] <soundray> userx532: do you have a support question? Abuse is not welcome here.
[23:01] <peace> with old drivers and something..there was big random chance to crash.. with fatal x error :(
[23:01] <hotmonkeyluv> soundray: thx
[23:02] <ep2011> Does anyone know where to get the areao icons? I can't find them online
[23:02] <steve176> fredmv: I recorded my config on the "no fuss" bcm43xx wiki page
[23:02] <Jack_Sparrow> userx532, Please stop.  It isnt true and cant happen
[23:03] <linduxed> is there a tool or a package that can do the autodetection of the livecd that sets up your system? i dont want to reinstall the entire thing...but i know that when i use the livecd stuff that doesnt work now...works
[23:03] <userx532> ok ill stop but i do have a question, why do i get "wrong OS or OS version" when i try to install norton antivirus
[23:03] <greasy_leftwing> that depends on what the problem is
[23:03] <greasy_leftwing> -linuxed
[23:04] <Starnestommy> userx532: because norton antivirus is for windows and linux doesn't need an antivirus
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> peace, it was something other than the drivers, they have been bulletproof.
[23:04] <Ulfalizer> when i try to compile a simple test program with "gcc testcomp.c -o testcomp" on my freshly installed 7.10 system, gcc complains it can't find standard headers such as stdio.h. do i have to install those separately?
[23:04] <userx532> youre telling me i cant get a virus on linux??
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential
[23:04] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[23:04] <Ulfalizer> thanks
[23:04] <Starnestommy> userx532: you can't
[23:04] <ep2011> Does anyone know where to get the areao icons? I can't find them online...?
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[23:04] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[23:04] <linduxed> greasy_leftwing: im right now only interested in a way to do the autoconfig, nothing else
[23:04] <userx532> then why the heck do people use windows, damn
[23:04] <soundray> !virus | userx532
[23:04] <ubotu> userx532: please see above
[23:05] <osiris__> ep2011, where have you seen  them before?
[23:05] <soundray> !language | userx532
[23:05] <ubotu> userx532: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:05] <fredmv> steve176, sorry to be lazy, but could I get a link?
[23:05] <linduxed> greasy_leftwing: i dont want to fix the problems, stuff worked in the beginning...all of a sudden it doesnt
[23:05] <soundray> !coc | userx532
[23:05] <ubotu> userx532: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[23:05] <peace> with old drivers.. and with xconfig? hm.. there was many random crashed into login screen - fatal x error... now i instaled newest drivers..but i see it doesnt work with xconfig or smth.. im lame :|
[23:05] <nicolas_> list
[23:05] <nicolas_> LIST
[23:05] <userx532> soundray, i said "why the heck" i purposely do not swear.
[23:05] <nicolas_> ./LIST
[23:05] <ep2011> osiris__, I've seen it in many many screenshots on the ubuntu forum
[23:06] <osiris__> ep2011, can you find me one?
[23:06] <greasy_leftwing> linuxed - what doesnt?
[23:06] <soundray> userx532: you don't even notice when you're swearing ;)
[23:06] <steve176> fredmv: trying to find it now
[23:06] <ep2011> http://www.box-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=60053&file1=60053-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Nova
[23:06] <linduxed> greasy_leftwing: wifi and samba or the moment
[23:06] <userx532> soundray im really trying to not troll here, but what did i say that was a swear word?
[23:06] <steve176> fredmv: after I followed the dell instructions I got the wireless interface showing up in network manager but could only get it working unencrypted
[23:06] <linduxed> greasy_leftwing: wifi on this laptop, samba on another
[23:07] <soundray> userx532: "damn" is kind of classic...
[23:07] <Chris|> userx532 we just generally want a family friendly room
[23:07] <l815> :)
[23:07] <steve176> fredmv: several posts suggested uninstalling network manager and using an alternative tool, but that didn't work either
[23:07] <Chris|> userx532 dont make it a big deal :)
[23:07] <userx532> oh, right. forgot that one lol youre right. ok so no viruses on linux thats great. thanks
[23:07] <Jack_Sparrow> userx532, You say you are not trying to troll.. but that is all you have done since you joined.
[23:07] <prince_jammys> Lasivian: have you looked at this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432975
[23:07] <greasy_leftwing> what did you do in between, have you installed anything or changed anysettings between when it was working and now?
[23:07] <etfb> I'm having battery problems on my Ubuntu laptop.  Last week I bought a new 4400mAh battery. Today, it's reporting a capacity of 4075mAh.  Is there something in Ubuntu that could be causing the battery to die?
[23:07] <reportingsjr> Could someone help me set up a second monitor for my computer? I have it hooked up but I can't get it working. =\
[23:07] <l815> haha it's so great using linux and forgetting about spyware and viruses :D
[23:08] <steve176> fredmv: finally I found somewhere that gave manual settings to add to /etc/network/interfaces
[23:08] <Lasivian> had not seen that, going over it now, thank you
[23:08] <userx532> jack_sparrow yeah i admit it
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> l815, I still dual boot windows. for that occasional game fix, it just does not have internet access...
[23:08] <steve176> fredmv: The last step was preventing ubuntu from attempting to start the interface too early so it continued to work on reboot
[23:08] <userx532> i wont talk anymore unless i have a question
[23:09] <steve176> fredmv: I'll see if I can find those links!
[23:09] <Yggdrasil> is there any way to run the installer from a terminal connected to a serial port of the box thats being installed ?
[23:09] <l815> Jack_Sparrow, i also dual boot, but only go on it for s-video
[23:09] <fredmv> steve176, jeez,  it's almost as if getting wireless to work is a mere hack.
[23:09] <reportingsjr> Could someone help me set up a second monitor for my computer? I have it hooked up but I can't get it working. =\
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> userx532, We have an #Ubuntu-offtopic room that has more flexible rules..
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > Yggdrasil
[23:10] <reportingsjr> anyone?
[23:10] <fredmv> steve176, I kinda' wonder if the next release will cover these kinds of issues.  I know they're working on it.
[23:10] <oladsadasda> hi.
[23:10] <l815> my firefox randomly freezes and crashes, are there any things i can do to minimize it?
[23:10] <linduxed> greasy_leftwing: no the wifi died all of a sudden, after reboot wifi was gone
[23:10] <oladsadasda> i want to install kiba dock on my gutsy laptop. anyone can help me?
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> l815, Try reinstalling flash
[23:10] <etfb> l815: Is it happening when you use Flash (YouTube, etc)?
[23:10] <osiris__> ep2011, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Area-blue?content=67852
[23:10] <l815> yeah i think flash is the problem
[23:10] <linduxed> greasy_leftwing: really... is there a autoconfiguration package?
[23:11] <l815> jack_sparrow, etfb, I will try reinstalling flash, thanks
[23:11] <steve176> fredmv: well supposedly gutsy restricted driver manager was supposed to, but it didn't work for me. Just said I didn't have any hardware that needed it
[23:11] <peace> installed newest nvidia drivers... cannot play any 3d games !!! cannot watch nvidia-settings - please configure xconfig.. im not sure what must i do.. 139.09drivers..6800ultra
[23:11] <reportingsjr> l815, I have that problem too
[23:11] <greasy_leftwing> I',m assuming you installed some updates of some sort, and on reboot, the wifi failed to check yeah?
[23:11] <reportingsjr> Could someone help me set up a second monitor for my computer? I have it hooked up but I can't get it working. =\
[23:11] <fredmv> steve176, samg msg. I got.
[23:11] <soundray> Yggdrasil: I don't think this is possible with unmodified ubuntu installers
[23:11] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: where does one go to reinstall Flash?  I heard that the latest version breaks Linux
[23:11] <l815> reportingsjr, yeah it happens on pages randomly, i guess they use flash for something
[23:11] <Jack_Sparrow> reportingsjr, People will need to know what video card you are running
[23:11] <oladsadasda> Jack_Sparrow:  can u help me intalling kiba dock on my gutsy?
[23:11] <Lasivian> prince_jammys: modprobe orinoco_cs does load the card, I fail to recall the command to see what modes it's activ in tho
[23:11] <l815> so uninstall flash through add/remove or from firefox?
[23:11] <Azag> hi
[23:11] <Jack_Sparrow> oladsadasda, Sorry, I use cairo-dock.. and osx theme
[23:11] <reportingsjr> Jack_Sparrow, one is a nvidia geforce 7300 gs
[23:11] <soundray> Yggdrasil: any chance you can remove the hard disk drive and install it in another machine?
[23:12] <oladsadasda> how about cairo dock. can i install it on gutsy?
[23:12] <reportingsjr> the other is uhh.. not sure :) bought it from a computer store as surplus a while back.
[23:12] <benanzo> I have a script that I need to be run as root -- but I want a non-root user to be able to run it.  I want to give them permission to run *only* that one script as root
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead > reportingsjr
[23:12] <benanzo> is this possible?
[23:12] <oladsadasda> do u have any how'to?
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !twinview > reportingsjr
[23:12] <reportingsjr> Looks like my computer gave it voodoo3 drivirs though
[23:12] <reportingsjr> Jack_Sparrow, hehe
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> oladsadasda, Yes I have cairo dock on gutsy, I love it/
[23:12] <Azag> I want to syncronize my nokia 6236 with my evolution calendar, this phone hasn bluetooth, can I syncronize it?
[23:13] <l815> does it require compiz Jack_Sparrow?
[23:13] <oladsadasda> can u give an how.to to install it Jack_Sparrow???
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> oladsadasda, Let me see if I can find the link
[23:13] <oladsadasda> ok
[23:13] <oladsadasda> thanks
[23:13] <prince_jammys> Lasivian: i am really ignorant when it comes to this, but with all the info you posted, searching the forums is a good bet.  it seems to be kernel-related
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> oladsadasda, Install is basically a double click
[23:13] <Baltazaar> how can I make the Gnome network manager "remember" my wireless lan? I need to go to the stored profile and activate after each reboot...
[23:13] <reportingsjr> Jack_Sparrow, I could do multiple monitors with one video card? err, how?
[23:13] <l815> oladsadasda, do you speak portuguese
[23:13] <steve176> fredmv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff look for cressie176
[23:13] <Lasivian> prince_jammys: found it, iwpriv shows that the orinoco card is not in scanning mode. Which I suspect means it's just loading the old orinoco driver
[23:13] <oladsadasda> l815:  sim
[23:14] <fredmv> steve176, excellent, thanks.
[23:14] <oladsadasda> Jack_Sparrow: double click in what m8?
[23:14] <soundray> benanzo: it's possible in principle. You have to write a specific rule for that user in /etc/sudoers . Can't help with the detail though -- start with man sudoers
[23:14] <steve176> fredmv: still need to find the articles re: manual config and reboot
[23:14] <greasy_leftwing> who?
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> oladsadasda, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[23:14] <Lasivian> yeah, i've been searching for a few days.  If you private msg me your email address I'll send it over
[23:15] <benanzo> ok
[23:15] <fredmv> steve176, I appreciate that.   I'll have to reg my nick though
[23:15] <cain_22> anyway i can get some help with my wireless..?
[23:17] <guillaume_> why do I get an error when trying to install vmware from add/remove aplication, I get an "not on your system blablah (i386)....
[23:17] <slipttees> rene@ubuntu:~$ sudo su
[23:17] <slipttees> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[23:17] <slipttees> rene@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update
[23:17] <slipttees> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[23:17] <slipttees> please help me
[23:17] <slipttees> :-(
[23:17] <hwg_> So...
[23:17] <ader10> Is anybody willing to help me with some audacity problems
[23:17] <Starnestommy> slipttees: did you try to change the hostname?
[23:17] <hwg_> How's everyone doing?
[23:17] <fredmv> steve176, this looks interesting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[23:17] <reportingsjr> Jack_Sparrow, can't I just use the built in dual monitor thing?
[23:18] <hwg_> Indeed...
[23:18] <Jack_Sparrow> slipttees, Try to avoid sudo su
[23:18] <cain_22> The software source for the package
[23:18] <cain_22>    bcm43xx-fwcutter
[23:18] <cain_22>  is not enabled.     (how do i enable that?)
[23:18] <Jack_Sparrow> reportingsjr, I dont do the dual monitor thing, just pointed you to what others wrote up on using them
[23:18] <neosix> hello!
[23:18] <reportingsjr> Jack_Sparrow, well they didn't help at all =\
[23:19] <Pici> !hostname | slipttees
[23:19] <ubotu> slipttees: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[23:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !find fwcutter
[23:19] <ubotu> Found: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[23:19] <soundray> !hi | neosix
[23:19] <ubotu> neosix: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:19] <neosix> :)
[23:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !!info bcm43xx-fwcutter
[23:19] <ubotu> bcm43xx-fwcutter (source: bcm43xx-fwcutter): Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:006-3 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 116 kB
[23:19] <Tasteless> "Fatal error: Class 'SQLiteDatabase' not found in"  why would i get this error if i have sqlite3 and php-sqlite3 installed?
[23:19] <steve176> fredmv: Open System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager  didn't work for me
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> cain_22, it is in universe... enable it in your sources list
[23:20] <slipttees> Pici, in network i don't have permission for change anything :-(
[23:20] <ePax> Can i connect my printer directrly to router and then print jobs from ubuntu?
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !sources
[23:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[23:20] <fredmv> steve176, yeah, it doesn't work for me either.   If you look under "Off-line instillation" there's a bcm43xx deb package.
[23:21] <steve176> soundray: adding the CR didn't help :( haven't tried /etc/profile yet
[23:21] <Pici> slipttees: Sounds like you changed your hostname by modidying one of the aformentioned files, you'll have to either boot to recovery mode or boot up with the live cd and change those files properly.
[23:21] <oladsadasda> Jack_Sparrow:  can u tell me how do i put the dock opening on startup?
[23:21] <Tasteless> Is the defintion for SQLiteDatabase not in a file included in php-sqlite3?
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[23:22] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[23:22] <nixnoob> does anyone know if I rip a blu-ray dvd to my hard drive and then use hdmi out to play it on my HDTV will it be blu-ray quality? what i mean is can i use my laptop as a blu-ray player/movie library?
[23:22] <slipttees> Pici where change domain name ?
[23:23] <reportingsjr> Would anyone please help me set up dual monitors? I can't seem to get the second monitor to show anything.
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> cain_22, system admin   software sources... enable universe
[23:23] <smacky> is it possible that my machine to is powerful for ubuntu 7.10 I386
[23:23] <cain_22> mucho gracious...let me check it out
[23:23] <slipttees> Pici rene@ubuntu:~$ sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[23:23] <slipttees> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[23:23] <slipttees> rene@ubuntu:~$ sudo su
[23:23] <slipttees> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[23:23] <slipttees> :-(
[23:24] <FloodBot1> slipttees: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <slipttees> ok sorry
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> oladsadasda, I auto hide the top bar and I have a launcher on it for cairo-dock  if that helps at all
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> slipttees, fyi  use gksudo for gui apps
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[23:24] <Pici> !hostname | slipttees read this
[23:24] <ubotu> slipttees read this: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[23:24] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[23:25] <smacky> i jsut build a quad amd with four gigs of ram and i cant get my sound card to work
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky, You probably just need to recompile alsa... fyi  use version 15 not 16...
[23:25] <slipttees> Pici: Thx very much :D
[23:25] <smacky> google has become my best friend
[23:25] <slipttees> :D
[23:25] <slipttees> :-*
[23:25] <slipttees> :D
[23:26] <slipttees> Jack_Sparrow: :-* thx
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:26] <slipttees> :-*
[23:26] <slipttees> kissessssssssss :D
[23:26] <smacky> mr sparrow aint that a step dn ?
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky, Not if you want it to work.. 16 has an issue with our mixer...
[23:26] <l815> if i launch a program from the toolbar, the screen kinda glitches.. does this happen to anyone?
[23:26] <soundray> smacky: not if it works and your current setup doesn't...
[23:27] <steve176> fredmv: pretty sure this is the url I used to get wpa working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834
[23:28] <smacky> who would have knowin that building this would be a pain in the tail end  lol
[23:28] <LinuxNIT> how do i stop ubuntu from playing that goofy noise everytime i login?
[23:28] <fredmv> steve176, looking right now.
[23:28] <Lasivian> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=715321 Wish me luck.
[23:28] <soundray> LinuxNIT: System-Preferences-Sound
[23:28] <prince_jammys> Lasivian: perfect. good luck
[23:29] <smacky> would it be better to run envy for the drivers for my video card
[23:29] <soundray> smacky: no
[23:29] <Lasivian> thanks
[23:29] <RequinB4> !envy
[23:29] <prince_jammys> !envy | smacky
[23:29] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:29] <ubotu> smacky: please see above
[23:29] <bbonora> I am a new to ubuntu, but I was wondering if somebody could direct me to  some information on how to set up LAMP on Ubuntu 7.10 DE.  I was using WAMP on windows
[23:29] <LinuxNIT> thanks
[23:29] <soundray> !lamp | bbonora
[23:29] <ubotu> bbonora: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl, I need some lunch and some time for fun... Play nice
[23:30] <Mighty_Penguin> cya jack-desktop
[23:30] <No1CaNTeL> hello, I was hoping I could get a hand with a prob I just ran into, I left my pc running today and when I got home my keyring password wasnt working so I rebooted and now, without any reason I am running into an error msg thst says: user's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored it prevents the session & lang. from being saved.
[23:30] <axz> !nvidia
[23:30] <Mighty_Penguin> er, Jack_Sparrow
[23:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:30] <Mighty_Penguin> :)
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:30] <No1CaNTeL> file should be owned by user and have perms of 644
[23:30] <smacky> have fun jack
[23:30] <No1CaNTeL> and that my home dir should be owned by my user, which it should be
[23:31] <soundray> No1CaNTeL: this can be a symptom of having used graphical programs with sudo
[23:31] <No1CaNTeL> by the sounds of it this is nothing major but I am a complete noob at linux so a hand would be appreciated
[23:31] <soundray> !gksu | No1CaNTeL
[23:31] <ubotu> No1CaNTeL: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[23:31] <b_9> anyone use pulseaudio?
[23:32] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: you mean the permissions of the file are wrong?
[23:32] <No1CaNTeL> I did do a perm change with my DVD drive, I shared it through root to watch movies from
[23:32] <No1CaNTeL> one sec, I will type out the exact msg
[23:32] <soundray> No1CaNTeL: no, don't
[23:32] <No1CaNTeL> k
[23:32] <soundray> !pastebin | No1CaNTeL
[23:32] <ubotu> No1CaNTeL: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:32] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: are you logged in to ubuntu now?
[23:32] <No1CaNTeL> lol, I know it well :P
[23:33] <No1CaNTeL> yes
[23:33] <No1CaNTeL> is that a prob?
[23:33] <prince_jammys> no
[23:33] <ty_> stupid question, on my desk top when i minimze things i cant see them at the bottom of the screen as theres no bar there
[23:33] <purity^> hello
[23:33] <prince_jammys> so what are the current perms:  do ls -l .dmrc
[23:33] <l815> ty_ right click "Add new item"
[23:33] <l815> ty_, then add "window list"
[23:34] <soundray> ty_: right click the upper panel and select New Panel. Install the Window List applet in the new panel.
[23:34] <purity^> if i wan't to remove the kde-desktop but still will be running kde-apps in my gnome-desktop wich package should i remove?
[23:34] <Mighty_Penguin> ty_ right click and add new panel, then add new item and windows list as l815 said
[23:34] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: ls -l .dmrc
[23:34] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: or rather ls -l /home/youruser/.dmrc
[23:35] <soundray> purity^: I wouldn't remove any packages at all. Just select gnome at login.
[23:35] <No1CaNTeL> http://pastebin.ca/928343
[23:35] <No1CaNTeL> as root?? sudo?
[23:35] <ty_> when i click right, it only says create folder/document/ launcher
[23:35] <lakeoftea>  does anyone recommend using cgywin as a tool to learn linux on windows without installing the OS ???
[23:35] <PriceChild> lakeoftea: learn linux by using it...
[23:35] <purity^> soundray: ok, but there is a lot of kde-programs i don't want
[23:35] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: try without sudo
[23:36] <l815> ty_, Right click on the panel
[23:36] <Skapare> in 6.06 LTS I am trying to run update manager ... it refuses to run, saying I can only run one at a time, and to close the other one, then it exits ... the problem was, it was running right before a power failure
[23:36] <soundray> purity^: are you very short on disk space?
[23:36] <No1CaNTeL> -rw------- 1 no1 no1 28 2008-03-04 02:19 .dmrc
[23:36] <purity^> soundray: not really :)
[23:36] <lakeoftea> excellent
[23:36] <No1CaNTeL> taht is the right user
[23:36] <l815> ty_, also it's "Add to panel" not "add new item" as i previously said
[23:36] <Skapare> so how can I tell update manager to clean things up and finish the updates?
[23:36] <mariorz> wgat package do i need to be able to "make" ?
[23:36] <RequinB4> Skapare - make sure you have no instances of synaptic or apt-get running
[23:36] <mariorz> appart from gcc
[23:36] <soundray> lakeoftea: you can learn bash with cygwin, but Linux is more than bash these days
[23:37] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: sudo chmod 644 /home/youruser/.dmrc
[23:37] <Skapare> RequinB4: it rebooted ... nothing else has been run
[23:37] <berlylabs> anyone know how to make yahoo games work on ubuntu?
[23:37] <purity^> maybe i just add a application-group with the kde-apps
[23:37] <soundray> mariorz: all those that the build-essential package depends on
[23:37] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: just following the error message.the current perms are 600, not 644
[23:37] <No1CaNTeL> -rw------- 1 no1 no1 28 2008-03-04 02:19 /home/no1/.dmrc
[23:38] <No1CaNTeL> see I was wondering how perms were set in console :P
[23:38] <mariorz> soundray: got you. thx
[23:38] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: they should end up as rw-r--r--
[23:38] <bastid_raZor> berlylabs; i use vmware to boot windows 2000 ..
[23:38] <SparkyFlary> im thinking of getting a c++ compiler but dont know which oe is best
[23:38] <Skapare> RequinB4: shouldn't it see that no process is running with the PID it was last running with, and just clean up and resume or restart?
[23:38] <bastid_raZor> berlylabs; i actually play quite a bit of games that way
[23:39] <l815> SparkyFlary, Geany is great
[23:39] <berlylabs> is there an easy way to do that? free?
[23:39] <SparkyFlary> whats Geany?
[23:39] <Skapare> RequinB4: or do I need to reboot again
[23:39] <l815> a c++ compiler
[23:39] <RequinB4> Skapare - I can't see how the power failure would matter, but if you are convinced that is the problem (And I hate to sound like a Window$ support staff) try a clean reboot.
[23:39] <SparkyFlary> does it cost money?
[23:39] <Skapare> RequinB4: OK ... I will try another reboot
[23:39] <l815> nope, go to Add/Remove and type in Geany
[23:39] <Starnestommy> g++ is a good cli-based compiler
[23:39] <No1CaNTeL> does this look like it worked??
[23:39] <No1CaNTeL> -rw-r--r-- 1 no1 no1 28 2008-03-04 02:19 /home/no1/.dmrc
[23:39] <bastid_raZor> berlylabs; they have a free player for vmware and you can snag a copy of 2000 somewhere.. just don't register 2000 and you'll be fine.
[23:40] <SpeakerMania> I am trying to uninstall KDE4 stable. I have run sudo aptitude remove kde4-core kdm-kde4 which removed the core an most packages. However, 'aptitude search kde' returns literally hundreds of kde packages I don't want. Is there a way I can remove all of them with one command, without copy-pasting each?
[23:40] <ty_> thanks, this is a confusing system...ubuntu but it beats microsoft
[23:40] <No1CaNTeL> I dont see an actual 644 but there are changes
[23:40] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: yes. ok let's verify something. do now::  ls -ld /home/no1
[23:40] <l815> SparkyFlarky, you will need to have installed "Build-essentials"
[23:40] <soundray> l815, SparkyFlary: geany isn't a c++ compiler, it's an IDE
[23:40] <Stwange> No1CaNTeL, sudo chown <yourusername> ~/.dmrc
[23:40] <bastid_raZor> SpeakerMania; sudo aptitude remove kde*
[23:40] <l815> soundray you're right
[23:40] <steve176> fredmv: still trying to find the fix for keeping things working after reboot. But in the mean time did you come across this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[23:40] <SparkyFlary> o so its like dev c++ ?
[23:40] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: don't do what Stwange said, you already own it
[23:40] <berlylabs> bastid: so add/remove vmware and where could i find windows 2000
[23:41] <Skapare> RequinB4: apparently it sees something as locked and thinks something else has it locked
[23:41] <l815> yeah, although it isn't a compiler itself
[23:41] <steve176> fredmv: I already had the bcm43xx working by the time I found it so never got to try it
[23:41] <No1CaNTeL> drwxrwxrwx 55 no1 no1 4096 2008-03-04 18:26 /home/no1
[23:41] <l815> it uses gc++ or gc i think right?
[23:41] <soundray> SpeakerMania: aptitude search returns available packages (not only installed ones)
[23:41] <mouseboyx> how do you set the max bandwidth that you use on ubuntu?
[23:41] <SparkyFlary> some kind of tect editor?
[23:41] <Starnestommy> l815: g++/gcc?
[23:41] <bastid_raZor> berlylabs; vmware isn't that simple.. you'll have to grab it from vmware site and windows.. find a torrent
[23:41] <bastid_raZor> bbl... gotta run
[23:41] <SpeakerMania> bastid_raZor: Wouldn't that remove all packages with kde at the beginning? I need to remove things like 'yakuake-kde4' and such.
[23:41] <l815> lol .. im totally off today ** G++ & GCC is what i mean
[23:41] <Stwange> I keep lagging out like a beeyatch :S
[23:41] <berlylabs> vmware says it can't install on my computer
[23:41] <SpeakerMania> soundray: Can I search for installed packages?
[23:41] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: ok that's not right.  do sudo chmod 755 /home/no1
[23:41] <SparkyFlary> i hear alot about gcc
[23:42] <SparkyFlary> so umm whats the best one that isnt free?
[23:42] <RequinB4> Skapare - I'm sorry, its late, can you re-state that without so many pronouns :P
[23:42] <No1CaNTeL> lil late :P I did it, didnt realize it was someone else :P
[23:42] <soundray> SpeakerMania: 'dpkg -l k*' or use synaptic
[23:42] <prince_jammys> No1CaNTeL: it should then show as rwxr-xr-x
[23:42] <l815> i don't know any non-free apps on linux yet :/
[23:42] <tehdave> there are non-free apps on linux?
[23:42] <mouseboyx> how do you set the max bandwidth that you use on ubuntu??
[23:42] <l815> that's what I'm saying