[19:26] <omnydevi> sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> omnydevi, Please suggest to people gksudo gedit not sudo gedit.. thanks
[19:26] <omnydevi> what is gksudo gedit?
[19:26] <marco> hot_rod_hippie: yes.
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[19:26] <omnydevi> he doesnt have graphics
[19:26] <eseven73> good catch Jack_Sparrow :)
[19:26] <omnydevi> k thx
[19:26] <omnydevi> so sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> omnydevi, gedit is a gui app..  you told him to sudo gedit..
[19:27] <it_croud> why ubuntu gedit sees xchats logs as binary and refuse to open it complainig about the character encoding?
[19:27] <ASULutzy> mavsman4457: they have intel adapters I believe. I would sudo apt-get install grandr && grandr
[19:27] <marco> hot_rod_hippie: namely devices that don't have file permissions understandable by linux (eg. FAT32)
[19:27] <omnydevi> then i said o wait that wont work
[19:27] <ASULutzy> mavsman4457: And check if the monitor is detected there
[19:27] <omnydevi> my bad
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:27] <galiaf> #erevan
[19:27] <Mimi> Does anyone know how I would go about making my mouse buttons (vol up/down, next/previous song) work just like they did when I installed Ubuntu? XFC86 or whatever diidnt work
[19:27] <Mimi> Ive reserached hard
[19:27] <marco> hot_rod_hippie: So that normal users can read what's on the thumb drives, but can't write to it
[19:27] <NaPsTeR> omnydevi: now wat
[19:27] <it_croud> i tried kate and it opend the xchat log files but gedit no
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[19:27] <omnydevi> NaPsTeR - are you in?
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !buttons
[19:28] <Mimi> Jack_Sparrow, Im not that dumb....
[19:28] <NaPsTeR> omnydevi: i think so
[19:28] <vitin_> how can i get another chat
[19:28] <vitin_> ?
[19:28] <omnydevi> NaPsTeR - ok, vi is strange if you never used it before. What kinda graphics card ya got?
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Mimi, I did not mean to imply anything of the sort..
[19:28] <marabout> can anyone explain the purpose of "expert mode"  in the hardy alternate CD
[19:28] <it_croud> ok i will paste the code errors here
[19:29] <vitin_> how can i get another chat?!?!?!?!?
[19:29] <mavsman4457> ASULutzy no it didn't detect it there
[19:29] <it_croud> gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.
[19:29] <it_croud> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[19:29] <it_croud> Select a character coding from the menu and try again.
[19:29] <eseven73> vitin_:  /join #whatever
[19:29] <hot_rod_hippie> marco: you should be able to change /etc/fstab to make the device write-able
[19:29] <ASULutzy> !paste | it_croud
[19:29] <it_croud> ops!! sorry
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Mimi, What are you talking about.. I dont see any pots from you in awhile and I did not make any to you
[19:29] <NaPsTeR> omnydevi: its an ATI 9550 or something to that effect
[19:29] <Neo_The_User> it_croud, thats the best screen name ever
[19:29] <vitin_> am loose
[19:29] <mavsman4457> ASULutzy should I start up ubuntu with the monitor attached already or should I hook it up after I've started ubuntu?
[19:29] <it_croud> Neo the user thanks!!!
[19:30] <omnydevi> NaPsTeR - you are going to want to navigate to the part where is talks about your Graphics Card, and it will say DRIVER
[19:30] <code_> guys
[19:30] <omnydevi> I think it is near the bottom, use the arrow down keys
[19:30] <code_> i just got a eeepc
[19:30] <vitin_> how can i get another chat
[19:30] <vitin_> ?
[19:30] <marco> hot_rod_hippie: right, but then every new device would get a random "/dev/sd?"  Obviously my first instinct was to go to Keyboard Shortcuts, read about Keytouch, didn't work. Been trying for months now ^^  I guess Ill wait till Jaunty is out because i dont feel like reinstalling Ubuntu
[19:30] <ASULutzy> mavsman4457: Both should work, sorry work stuff came up, ask again, maybe someone can be more helpful :)
[19:31] <vitin_> omg
[19:31] <vitin_> i dont know
[19:31] <marco> hot_rod_hippie: it's kludgy to use the fstab, there should be a daemon doing the automounting, don't you think?
[19:31] <mavsman4457> ok thanks
[19:31] <Neo_The_User> I have ubuntu 8.10 installed, I just want to check out the LTS kernel config
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Mimi, Did you see the link on mouse buttons?
[19:31] <Guest16722> zigzgas: There is a panel app. that allows you to kill unresponsive applications (that have a graphical interface), alternatively you can bring up a terminal and kill them manually.
[19:31] <evowill_> code_ : please don't flood, and the eeepc does not come with a cd drive, you can use an external cdrom drive
[19:31] <mavsman4457> ubuntu won't detect my external monitor, what can I do?
[19:31] <marco> hot_rod_hippie: and it should have some kind of documentation, but it seems something so simple is so hard to find
[19:31] <NaPsTeR> omnydevi: i'm not so sure where that is exactly. there is device, monitor and screen sections
[19:31] <Guest16722> zigzags: Or you could set a keyboard shortcut for the system monitor.
[19:31] <omnydevi> device
[19:31] <omnydevi> what is the driver for device?
[19:31] <marabout> installing Hardy alternate got a message saying PNP bios error can anyone  help me with that
[19:32] <Jack_Sparrow> root__, I strongly suggest you not browse the web as root user on your system
[19:32] <evowill_> code_ or if you are trying to install, you can use the USB memory stick method to install Ubuntu
[19:32] <Neo_The_User> anybody willing to share the 8.04 lts kernel config?
[19:32] <omnydevi> NaPsTeR - sorry, been a while since i had to do this, and on xp at work now. sorry for the fuzziness of the answer
[19:32] <vitin_> stop stop!!!
[19:32] <vitin_> how can i get another msn?
[19:32] <hot_rod_hippie> marco: true, i get what you're after now, but i'm not aware of how to do that
[19:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !kernel > Neo_The_User
[19:32] <NaPsTeR> omnydevi: it says: Identifier     "Configured Video Device"
[19:32] <Neo_The_User> Jack, no
[19:32] <icesword> root__, open your port 22, lol
[19:32] <omnydevi> NaPsTeR - thats it?
[19:32] <Neo_The_User> I know what a kernel is Jack
[19:32] <b1gbawx> ever since i selected x windows to not load on startup my usb external harddrive wont load while in x. how to i set it to load usb once x loads
[19:33] <marco> hot_rod_hippie: thanks. Any idea where I can find decent documentation on the subject?
[19:33] <Neo_The_User> I wrote some kernel fixes
[19:33] <armornick> hey guys, I need some peptalk. I am convinced that ubuntu is a pretty good distro, but everywhere on the net, everyone says ubuntu is for noobs, and canonical is evil, and arch and debian are much better, etc. Can anyone please give me some heads up?
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Neo_The_User, You are offtopic, please stopo
[19:33] <Guest16722> vitin_: Do a google for Pidgin or Empathy
[19:33] <NaPsTeR> omnydevi: so wat must i do?
[19:33] <Neo_The_User> it's a support question. I can't find the LTS kernel config
[19:33] <tgpraveen> armornick: canonical is definteley nor evil
[19:33] <vitin_> empathy
[19:33] <robile> does anyone know a plugin for xmms to show the available playlists in an extra window or so?
[19:33] <omnydevi> NaPsTeR - where it says Configured Video Device" put the cursor on the last double quote
[19:33] <icesword> armornick, mhm, you will get a lot of fun if you uses debian sid, lol
[19:33] <marco> vitin_: Or just use Windows' MSN, I'm not aware of any linux client which has webcam support, if that's what you are after
[19:33] <omnydevi> device" <---there
[19:34] <tgpraveen> armornick: it is the best for new users
[19:34] <omnydevi> as far right as it will go
[19:34] <it_croud> b1gbawx Debian is for linux masters
[19:34] <omnydevi> only using the arrow keys
[19:34] <NaPsTeR> omnydevi: k
[19:34] <Guest16722> vitin_: sudo apt-get install empathy
[19:34] <armornick> that's the thing, I am not a new user anymore (or so I believe)
[19:34] <omnydevi> then hit A on your keyboard
[19:34] <omnydevi> then hit enter
[19:34] <tgpraveen> armornick: arch and debian is very difficult as compared to ubuntu
[19:34] <it_croud> b1gbawx ubuntu  is for linux noobs or people with not much free time
[19:34] <tgpraveen> armornick: well then u could give arch a try if u dont mind
[19:34] <omnydevi> then type
[19:34] <tgpraveen> having to do a lot of
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> it_croud, Not true at all.
[19:35] <omnydevi> DRIVER       "VESA"
[19:35] <tgpraveen> \commmand line work getting it installed
[19:35] <Guest16722> tgpraveen: Ubuntu - an African word meaning "unable to configure Debian" :-)
[19:35] <it_croud> b1gbawx Debian unstable is for linux masters surely
[19:35] <omnydevi> NaPsTeR - tell me when you got that :D
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > Guest16722
[19:35] <levi84> heya, happy new year, could somebody give me some help on: printer server and some samba stuff? ty (1st time linux user)
[19:35] <marco> it_croud: I use unstable on my laptop, and I'm just a lowly power user
[19:35] <NaPsTeR> omnydevi: done
[19:35] <omnydevi> keen
[19:35] <omnydevi> hit ESC
[19:35] <omnydevi> then
[19:35] <tgpraveen> Guest16722: and debian means " couldnt compile gentoo"
[19:35] <omnydevi> :w
[19:35] <FloodBot2> omnydevi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <it_croud> Ubuntu - an African word meaning "unable to configure Debian" :-) ha haha :-)
[19:35] <omnydevi> then
[19:35] <omnydevi> :q
[19:35] <Guest16722> Jack_Sparrow: What was that for?
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> tgpraveen, Stop thanks
[19:36] <yellabs> nice joke, however ubuntu = a configured debian
[19:36] <omnydevi> then startx and see what happens
[19:36] <Laderius> Need some help: I installed 8.04 afer my raid drive was not supported in 8.10(kept dropping to shell) now im trying to update and im getting an error when i use the tool to updat the error is (E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.24-22-generic_2.6.24-22.45_i386.deb: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./lib/modules/2.6.24-22-generic/kernel/net/decnet/decnet.ko')
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest16722  because you are offtopic. this is support
[19:36] <Mimi> actually  Jack_Sparrow , that doesnt say anything how to make it work on all applications, as It did... I guess Ill just install Ubuntu on a virtual machine and steal the config file (whereever that is :P )   and put it on my current installation ^^ thank you though , like i said, ive been trying for months
[19:36] <it_croud> yes configured by canonical ....
[19:36] <tgpraveen> armornick: only benefit of arch is rolling release but then stability and testing benefits goes
[19:36] <NaPsTeR> omnydevi: wat u mean :w, q
[19:36] <it_croud> not by the user
[19:36] <omnydevi> :w will save the file
[19:36] <it_croud> for the user
[19:36] <omnydevi> :q will exit vi
[19:37] <it_croud> :q! will force to quit
[19:37] <Guest16722> Jack_Sparrow: It was a single comment - it's not off topic, however this drawn-out set of remarks about it is.  End. :-)
[19:37] <omnydevi> after you hit ESC :)
[19:37] <armornick> I think I'm staying with ubuntu, because I like to use my pc as soon as I've installed an OS (which Debian and Arch don't seem to be good at)
[19:37] <omnydevi> we want to save before we force quit
[19:37] <tgpraveen> hey guys does anyone know of a way to make my nokia n73 cell work as a webcam in ubuntu.
[19:37] <armornick> btw, how does Canonical make money anyways?
[19:37] <tgpraveen> i know a prog for this in windows
[19:37] <it_croud> yes after esc ok
[19:37] <tgpraveen> but in ubuntu?
[19:37] <endeavormac> can i enable xdmcd from the command line?
[19:38] <omnydevi> when you get back to the terminal type "startx" without quotes
[19:38] <vitin_> how i install the msn on ubuntu?
[19:38] <tgpraveen> armornick: support is its main revenue stream.probably some companies like dell might be paying not sure
[19:38] <icesword> !amsn
[19:38] <yellabs> Laderius , have you tried apt-get update and / or setting different mirrors from where you get the packages?
[19:38] <icesword> !info amsn
[19:38] <omnydevi> if anyone can help NaPsTeR from here, I have to take my son to a dr appointment. sorry NaPsTeR, i gotta run mate
[19:38] <armornick> vitin, apt-get install amsn
[19:38] <tgpraveen> armornick: and also donations. but canonical is loosing money only.it doesnt profit
[19:38] <omnydevi> be back in a hourish or so
[19:38] <Laderius> yelllabs, I have yet to try that
[19:38] <NaPsTeR> omnydevi: ummm...think we've gone from bad 2 worse. now i have a cross in the middles of the screen and like a sorta grey background with lines
[19:38] <armornick> what would happen if canonical ever goes bankrupt?
[19:39] <vitin_> how can i install the msn on ubuntu?!?
[19:39] <tgpraveen> armornick: it is not likely mark is rich enugh ;-)
[19:39] <icesword> vitin_, sudo apt-get install amsn
[19:39] <Jack_Sparrow> vitin, ask in winehq or install vbox etc
[19:39] <tgpraveen> hey guys does anyone know of a way to make my nokia n73 cell work as a webcam in ubuntu.
[19:39] <tgpraveen> 	<tgpraveen>	i know a prog for this in windows
[19:39] <comradekingu> vitin_: Or use pidgin
[19:39] <marco> vitln_:you can't. The official MSN Messenger client is only officialy avaliable for Windows systems
[19:39] <yellabs> vitin_ you can use pidgin with msn
[19:40] <marco> vitln_:as the other users said, you can use alternatives, but they aren't likely to support all the features of the offical client
[19:40] <racquad> hi guys, I have a doubt about using evolution with spamassassin and IMAP.
[19:40] <yellabs> its in applications . internet / pidgin
[19:40] <racquad> How can I configure evolution to scan my IMAP messages for spam?
[19:40] <yellabs> just setup the account
[19:40] <armornick> I think amsn comes closest to the official msn client
[19:40] <Laderius> yellabs, i 'sudo apt-get update' and now it says its done and is back at a prompt whats next?
[19:40] <sliggy> hey everyone
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> NaPsTeR, Please restate your question and what has been done so far
[19:41] <vitin_> so i need to use pidgin only?
[19:41] <tgpraveen> last time i am asking
[19:41] <yellabs> try again the install you wanted
[19:41] <tgpraveen> hey guys does anyone know of a way to make my nokia n73 cell work as a webcam in ubuntu.
[19:41] <SiVA_> can someone help me create a new wifi connection?
[19:41] <Laderius> yellabs, says i have 3 broken packages :/
[19:41] <yellabs> vitin_ give it an try setup msn
[19:41] <vitin_> i can use other one?
[19:41] <armornick> tgpraveen, I know it's unlikely, but ultimately, is canonical the owner of ubuntu or is it a community effort
[19:41] <psycose> i, i look for some help using conduit to sync two folders on 2 ubuntu intrepid on a LAN, the local sync of 2 folders on 1 system works ... thanks
[19:41] <SiVA_> iwlist shows me the device is working and I can scan to find my router
[19:41] <SiVA_> so I know it's working
[19:41] <marco> vitln_: no, you can use others, which may or may not support more of the messenger protocol. Pidgin is quite popular though
[19:41] <comradekingu> tpgraveen: what is the windows program called?
[19:41] <yellabs> Laderius, do you have an desktop running?
[19:41] <NaPsTeR> i ran an automatic update and now when i run my pc it doesn't start up properly, i don't have taskbars and i can't do anything...can any1 help?
[19:41] <Laderius> yellabs, Yes
[19:41] <tgpraveen> armornick: combination of both
[19:42] <SiVA_> but the wifi router doesn't come up in the network gui tool
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> armornick, community
[19:42] <yellabs> Laderius, you can use synaptic to fix the packages
[19:42] <tgpraveen> there are few conanoical employees also
[19:42] <sliggy> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to connect to an OS X server via LDAP, so I got everything configured based on the guide on help.ubuntu.com, and I can see all of the LDAP users when I type 'getent passwd' but I can't login as them at the login prompt. Does anyone know how I could solve this?
[19:42] <racquad> How can I configure evolution to scan my IMAP messages for spam?
[19:42] <yellabs> Laderius, filter for broken packages
[19:42] <hot_rod_hippie> marco: i don't know where to look.  there is a program in the repos called Mount Manager, but I haven't done anything with it (sounds like a graphical tool for /etc/fstab)
[19:42] <armornick> so if canonical would ever stop working on ubuntu, the community could just take over?
[19:42] <tgpraveen> comradekingu: will have  to check but
[19:42] <Laderius> yelllabs, doning it now, the package is the linux image one
[19:42] <sliggy> armornick: yes
[19:42] <tgpraveen> how willl that help
[19:42] <tgpraveen> cant run it in wine
[19:43] <ASULutzy> armornick: this is an Ubuntu support channel, that's offtopic.
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> armornick, Please take discussions to another room, this is support
[19:43] <Laderius> yellabs, i get this error E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.24-22-generic_2.6.24-22.45_i386.deb: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./lib/modules/2.6.24-22-generic/kernel/net/decnet/decnet.ko')
[19:43] <tgpraveen> and that same software aint
[19:43] <tgpraveen> for linux
[19:43] <armornick> sorry, say no more
[19:43] <psycose> join #conduit
[19:43] <ASULutzy> !enter | tgpraveen
[19:43] <tgpraveen> so is there any other idea
[19:43] <marabout> need some help ubuntu hardy alternate text installer has left side text on right and right side text on left. Should I assume it willbe correct after install?
[19:43] <sliggy> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to connect to an OS X server via LDAP, so I got everything configured based on the guide on help.ubuntu.com, and I can see all of the LDAP users when I type 'getent passwd' but I can't login as them at the login prompt. Does anyone know how I could solve this?
[19:44] <yellabs> spam ass and imap read  short read in buffer_copy
[19:44] <yellabs> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99603
[19:44] <yellabs> sorry
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, What video card?
[19:44] <marco> hot_rod_hippie: thanks for finding this. How it auto mounts USB devices continues a mistery though, eh?
[19:44] <marabout> via chrome9 hc igp
[19:44] <yellabs> for spam and imap. some read that might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99603
[19:44] <Wyhiwyl> which versions of OpenOffice can open .docx files?
[19:45] <Laderius> yellabs, what could be causing the error thios is the package that is broken (linux-image-2.6.24-22-generic (version 2.6.24-22.45) will be installed)
[19:45] <hot_rod_hippie> marco: as far as i can tell, yes
[19:45] <marabout> Jack_sparrow: via chrome9 hc igp
[19:45] <levi84> Wyhiwyl:  v 3.0
[19:45] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, ugh, sorry, YOu almost better off running that card as vesa
[19:45] <Wyhiwyl> levi84: what about 2.x?
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout,  You can try this..  TO force vesa mode: At start or install press F6 and remove quiet splash and add these xmodule=vesa xdrvr=vesa, res=1024x768
[19:46] <yellabs> Laderius, hold on, ...
[19:46] <marabout> Jack_sparrow: hoped the alternate hardy cd with text install would help rectify I can follow the prompts but not sure what the end product will be
[19:46] <marco> hot_rod_hippie: oh well, bugger. Thank you so much for spending time on my question. It was really appreciated.
[19:46] <hot_rod_hippie> marco: good luck
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, If you have livecd handy .. try what I posted.
[19:47] <Laderius> yellabs, okay
[19:47] <marabout> Jack_sparrow: should I jettison this install or do what you mentioned after/if this fails?
[19:47] <yellabs> Laderius, could you read this webpage and say if its the same error ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=468624
[19:47] <sliggy> No answers to my question?
[19:47] <levi84> Wyhiwyl: sorry not only 3.0
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, I would bail now if your screen is left/right chalenged
[19:48] <Ninja_> to sliggy what was your q?
[19:48] <sliggy> ninja_ I'm trying to get Ubuntu to connect to an OS X server via LDAP, so I got everything configured based on the guide on help.ubuntu.com, and I can see all of the LDAP users when I type 'getent passwd' but I can't login as them at the login prompt. Does anyone know how I could solve this?
[19:48] <Wyhiwyl> levi84: so OOo can open .docx from which version?
[19:49] <DammitJim> hi all
[19:49] <racquad> How can I configure evolution to scan my IMAP messages for spam?
[19:49] <Ninja_> sorry that is abit above my head reseting is the only recommendation
[19:49] <SiVA_> how can I configure a wifi connection via the console?
[19:49] <DammitJim> I'm having a problem
[19:49] <yellabs> newer versions can open docx
[19:49] <DammitJim> with mysql on ubuntu intrepid
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[19:49] <yellabs> from 3 on
[19:49] <Ninja_> or check hardware but it sounds complex
[19:49] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: Ok I see your point. Need to burn a Live hardy.  what cdm will take me outta here as I am at the [!!] Partition discs part
[19:49] <AnaisCareMaiz> It says this on the apps chart when I try to install opera, doesnt even let me check it. Weird because I used it before on this same machine on Ubuntu 8.04 too, how can I fix it?: Opera cannot be installed on your computer type (amd64). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type.
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, escape should
[19:50] <levi84> Wyhiwyl: i know that only from v3.0 can read, don't know past version witch could read .xdoc
[19:50] <zleap1> xdoc or docx
[19:50] <zleap1> i think 2.4.1 could read docx
[19:50] <sliggy> Ninja_ I'm guessing you've had no luck finding a solution to that either, I've been searching around for days
[19:51] <Ninja_> yeah very sorry i can't help but that is not a field that iam good in
[19:51] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"..   is my general suggestion
[19:51] <sliggy> Ninja_ do you know of a good place to ask that, I've tried the Ubuntu forums but nobody responds
[19:51] <yellabs> AnaisCareMaiz for opera 64 bit http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=linux-x86-64&list=all
[19:52] <Ninja_> sorry i can't help, the ubuntu forum would have been my only recomendation
[19:52] <tgpraveen> !ask
[19:52] <AnaisCareMaiz> yell0w, I will try it, thanks
[19:52] <celdridge> !webcam
[19:53] <marco> hot_rod_hippie: In case you are still interested, it seems that "gnome-volume-manager" handles the auto-mounting of devices on Ubuntu. Why, oh, why rely on a Gnome tool to handle mounting is beyond my ability to comprehend ;-)
[19:53] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: esc only backs me up one level doesnt free me from this prison cell I'm in. BTW and added noapic and nolapic to the line but did not delete quiet splash also checked 'expert mode'
[19:53] <LinuxGhost> someone knows how to add mithtv repository to ubuntu?
[19:54] <marco> hot_rod_hippie: it seems to rely on HAL (seems like a kludge to detect changes to the system) to know what to mount
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, I have not used alt-expert mode in some time but once you are out of the partitioner you should be able to kill that off
[19:54] <ZING> hey I am wanting to learn to program in Linux... what would be a good book to start out on?
[19:54] <celdridge> was wondering if anyone can help with a Logitech Quickcam express in 8.10.  I get the message that its attached to /dev/video0 in dmesg, but when i try to open it with any program it says not available
[19:54] <Laderius> yellabs, that fixed it thanks...
[19:54] <yellabs> good np
[19:54] <hot_rod_hippie> marco: cool, thanks
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> LinuxGhost, mythtv has a channel
[19:54] <Laderius> Where can i ask questions about software?
[19:54] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: maybe it was adding the expert mode that caused this left-right shift problem...?
[19:54] <pop79> hi. I just got an m-audio oxygen 8v2 midi keyboard today, how do i get it to work with ubuntu?
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, I doubt it
[19:54] <yellabs> here
[19:55] <yellabs> :P
[19:55] <Laderius> :D
[19:55] <Laderius> what is mediubuntu?
[19:55] <LinuxGhost> what is the mithtv channelA?
[19:55] <yellabs> its an ubuntu spinoff
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !medibuntu
[19:55] <erUSUL> !medibuntu > Laderius
[19:55] <evowill_> !medibuntu | Laderius
[19:55] <it_croud> medibuntu is for not gpl software
[19:55] <it_croud> like w32codecs
[19:55] <Laderius> whats it used for then
[19:55] <yellabs> and software
[19:55] <yellabs> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[19:55] <erUSUL> it_croud: no; is for patented software
[19:55] <Laderius> in practal terms
[19:55] <ZING> hey I am wanting to learn to program in Linux... what would be a good book to start out on?
[19:55] <LinuxGhost> mithtv please
[19:56] <yellabs> lots of answers ...lol
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> LinuxGhost, /join #Mythtv
[19:56] <LinuxGhost> ai want to install mithtv on ubuntu
[19:56] <Laderius> thats a plus yellabs :D
[19:56] <it_croud> erUSUL yes pattetnte soft ok!!!!
[19:56] <erUSUL> Laderius: things that ubuntu can not offer due to licensing/patenting issues is offered there
[19:56] <pop79> hi. I just got an m-audio oxygen 8v2 midi keyboard today, how do i get it to work with ubuntu? thank you
[19:56] <Laderius> erUSUL, in theroy it would be a good idea to add?
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Laderius, Yes
[19:56] <Laderius> Thanks!
[19:57] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: i hit ctl-alt f2 and now i am at a black screen which says "Please press (blank _ Ent  this console" - cant get all the text since it is split and opposite where is should be
[19:57] <yellabs> ZING there are many books, because lots of program langauge exist
[19:57] <Laderius> Anything else to make life easier i should know about?
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, You are not on the hard drive so you can power down
[19:57] <ZING> i know but what would be the best one to learn based on in demand and pay grade
[19:57] <yellabs> ZING for example python , wich is some what favorite in ubuntu developers
[19:58] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: pressed enter give me some info regarding  Built in shell (ash)  BusyBox v1.1.3 - Ok Thanks
[19:58] <celdridge> was wondering if anyone can help with a Logitech Quickcam express in 8.10.  I get the message that its attached to /dev/video0 in dmesg, but when i try to open it with any program it says not available
[19:58] <Katangawise> Hi! I know that in Ubuntu I can open "Run" dialog.. How can I do that? Thanks!
[19:58] <NaPsTeR> i really need help
[19:58] <marabout> jack_Sparrow: **gave
[19:58] <DIFH-iceroot> Katangawise: alt + f2
[19:58] <Katangawise> DIFH-iceroot, Thanks!
[19:58] <pop79> Katangawise: ctr-f2
[19:58] <pop79> oh
[19:58] <yellabs> ZING you can take an look here, but there are many other choices https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Programming
[19:58] <pop79> i didnt see that :)
[19:59] <ZING> ty
[19:59] <pop79> hi. I just got an m-audio oxygen 8v2 midi keyboard today, how do i get it to work with ubuntu?
[19:59] <erUSUL> Laderius: you need it for libdvdcss needed to watch dvd's w32codecs is there too. There are packages for acrobat reader... it is usefull
[20:00] <yellabs> celdridge did you try ekiga ?
[20:00] <erUSUL> Laderius: althought you have to be aware of the legal implications...
[20:00] <macman_> so all .. im trying to play a .wmv file .. i have installed medibuntu .. w32codec and libdvdcss with no change .. any ideas ?
[20:00] <tgpraveen> erUSUL: in which countries is it illegal to use the codecs?
[20:00] <Laderius> erUSUL Thanks :P
[20:00] <tgpraveen> i always wanted to know the legal status of the codecs?
[20:00] <evowill_> macman_,  if it is encrypted you will not be able to play the .wmv
[20:00] <pop79> hi. I just got an m-audio oxygen 8v2 midi keyboard today, how do i get it to work with ubuntu?
[20:01] <macman_> i've tried kaffeine , mplayer , gxine .. nothing lets me play the file
[20:01] <Laderius> Stupid question, how do i confirm my installtion of ubuntu which version?
[20:01] <yellabs> celdridge plugin the webcam and try if it works with ekiga or camorama , you can also take an read here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[20:01] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: the F6 apci advice you gave was for the regular hardy CD as opposed to the alternate one correct?
[20:01] <macman_> evowill_, even thought i have all the codec to play it ?
[20:01] <sliggy> Laderius what do you mean
[20:01] <tgpraveen> Laderius: try system monitor from
[20:01] <celdridge> yellabs: yes camorama is what im using to test .. it does not work
[20:01] <erUSUL> tgpraveen: well i'm not expert but in the u.s.a using libdvdcss or some codecs woulb be illegall due to DMCA no?
[20:01] <tgpraveen> preferences menu
[20:01] <aberratic> how do i download rsvg-view?
[20:01] <tgpraveen> erUSUL: i am frm india . any one else have any idea
[20:02] <sliggy> aberratic: try sudo apt-get install rsvg-view
[20:02] <WyHiWyL> macman_: maybe it's not a .wmv file, try command $ file to know
[20:02] <LinuxGhost> hi, on mithtv is empty room, how to install mithtv
[20:02] <aberratic> Package was not found
[20:02] <tgpraveen> LinuxGhost: its mythtv and check their site
[20:02] <sliggy> LinuxGhost: try #mythtv kiddo
[20:02] <evowill_> Laderius, lsb_release -a
[20:02] <tgpraveen> for official irc room
[20:02] <ardchoille> LinuxGhost: it's mythtv
[20:02] <pop79> I have 2 devices that i cant get to work with ubuntu, the m-audio oxygen8 v2 midi keybord and the genius g-pen 450. can anybody help me?
[20:02] <xang> aberratic: sudo apt-cache search rsvg-view
[20:02] <RaZMataZ> Laderius, $cat /proc/version ?
[20:02] <tgpraveen> pop79: what problems are u facing
[20:03] <pop79> it dosnt work
[20:03] <yellabs> celdridge https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[20:03] <sliggy> pop79: what are you trying to do with them
[20:03] <ardchoille> Laderius: lsb_release -a
[20:03] <macman_> wyggler2, what do you mean command $ file ?
[20:03] <Laderius> sec too many answers :P i just wanna know if its hardy or intrepid
[20:03] <pdtpatrick> on ubuntu upgrades.. why does it say the following packages have been held back.. if i run sudo apt-get upgrade it doesnt upgrade them unless i click on the gui and press install..
[20:03] <sliggy> pop79: Like, which applications do you want to run with it
[20:03] <pop79> i dont really know
[20:03] <tgpraveen> pop79: did u google it. try to use lsusb and lspci in terminal
[20:03] <sliggy> pop79: ...
[20:04] <evowill_> pdtpatrick, dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
[20:04] <tgpraveen> and see if they are recognised ie their entry comes or not
[20:04] <Laderius> system monitor worked fine :P
[20:04] <pop79> i would like to use the g-pen to be a mouse
[20:04] <Laderius> its hardy
[20:04] <pdtpatrick> thanks evowill :)
[20:04] <yellabs> celdridge lsusb will show what is is
[20:04] <erUSUL> pdtpatrick: those usually get installed if you use dist-upgrade
[20:04] <celdridge> yellabs: thanks but that site is pretty much non-helpful ... no information on this cam and no info that is up to date
[20:04] <WyHiWyL> pdtpatrick: this only happens with the kernel update, right?
[20:04] <Laderius> also, how can i confirm my all of my devices are operating at full potential
[20:04] <celdridge> yellabs: its a quickcam express
[20:04] <NaPsTeR> i'm really stuck
[20:04] <evowill_> Laderius, try them :-)
[20:04] <RaZMataZ> Laderius, test em
[20:04] <RaZMataZ> :P
[20:04] <tgpraveen> pop79: run the commands that i told u.
[20:05] <pdtpatrick> yes only with the kernel upgrade
[20:05] <pdtpatrick> yes only with the kernel upgradeLTS~
[20:05] <Laderius> Any Advice on how to stress test my PC
[20:05] <tgpraveen> and see if it has entries for the devices u require
[20:05] <evowill_> !ask | NaPsTeR
[20:05] <yellabs> celdridge what version of ubuntu?
[20:05] <ZING> ?join #linux
[20:05] <ZING> !join #linux
[20:05] <erUSUL> ZING: /join
[20:05] <celdridge> yellabs: 8.10
[20:06] <pop79> tgpraveen: this is what came up: Bus 006 Device 002: ID 07ab:fc05 Freecom Technologies
[20:06] <pop79> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[20:06] <pop79> Bus 005 Device 003: ID 15ca:00c3 Textech International Ltd. Mini Optical Mouse
[20:06] <pop79> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 058f:9360 Alcor Micro Corp. 8-in-1 Media Card Reader
[20:06] <pop79> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[20:06] <FloodBot2> pop79: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:06] <pop79> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[20:06] <NaPsTeR> i'm trying...my pc is not finishing startup
[20:06] <evowill_> !details | NaPsTeR
[20:07] <tgpraveen> pop79: this is for which command ? was the device plugged in.
[20:07] <yellabs> celdridge there seems to be an lot of problems with this webcam and ubuntu 8.10
[20:07] <celdridge> yellabs: yeah .. all webcams pretty much
[20:07] <pop79> the lsub command
[20:07] <NaPsTeR> when i boot up my pc it plays the welcome sound but that is all...i don't get taskbars or anything and i can't do anything...only move the mouse
[20:07] <evowill_> NaPsTeR, we need details to be able to help you
[20:07] <celdridge> yellabs: dmesg [21899.828206] quickcam: Registered device: /dev/video0
[20:07] <celdridge> but nothing there
[20:07] <evowill_> NaPsTeR, I will send you a PM
[20:08] <NaPsTeR> but there is nothing to click
[20:08] <NaPsTeR> k
[20:08] <jose__> hello, all
[20:08] <pop79> !howdy |jose_
[20:08] <yellabs> celdridge  i wonder if it works on 8.04
[20:08] <tgpraveen> pop79: try lspci also
[20:08] <pop79> ok
[20:08] <macman_> WyHiWyL, what does command $ file mean ?
[20:09] <aberratic> xang, thanks, I now know that it comes with the librsvg bin packages
[20:09] <Laderius> now that i installed medibuntu, how do i see whats avaible?
[20:09] <jose__> I have recently been exposed to Ubuntu because of loading Xubuntu on an Ancient Pentium 2 Gateway and rescuing it.  In fact, it's how I'm on IRC roght now
[20:09] <blutrille> anyone have experience working with customization of the boot process for live 8.10?
[20:10] <macman_> so guess what you guys .. i just did a test .. i downloaded some random wmv off of the INTERNET to my desktop and it is playing
[20:10] <yellabs> celdridge  its an bug....https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/293176
[20:10] <pyrak> i can't connect to a wpa enterprise network anymore, after upgrading to intrepid
[20:10] <macman_> WyHiWyL, you there ?
[20:10] <pyrak> it won't let me choose the correct private key
[20:10] <WyHiWyL> macman_: $ file /path/to/.wmvfile tell what exactly the filetype is, i think maybe it's not .wmv really
[20:10] <lacita> I can't get the sound working on my Lenovo 3000 Y410. I have tried updating to the latest drivers, and altering the alsa_base file... It just won't work...
[20:11] <jose__> my question for this forum is this:how do I know when I should install Ubuntu, as opposed to Xubuntu on a laptop PC my friend has given up on.  what are the minimum specs for it to be comfortably usable, or is it better to stick with Xubuntu?
[20:11] <macman_> WyHiWyL, /home/macman/Desktop/twlight.wmv: Microsoft ASF
[20:11] <ZummiG777> Question: Is anybody familiar with FWBuilder?
[20:11] <unr3a1> hey all
[20:11] <tgpraveen> jose__: state the specs of lappy
[20:11] <xang> aberratic: You are welcome :)
[20:12] <unr3a1> is there an app that can extract any ISO to a flash drive and make the flash drive bootable?
[20:12] <yellabs> celdridge  i know its a bit techical read but it might give some insight into your problem , so here is the url again https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/293176
[20:12] <pyrak> help connecting to wpa network?  ability to authenticate broke after upgrade to intrepid
[20:12] <evowill_> unr3a1, unetbootin
[20:13] <Serafeim> i have serious problem with my usb hubs. Anyone who thinks that can help me, please sent me a message to send you the system logs, thank you
[20:13] <WyHiWyL> macman_: have you tried play the file with mplayer, it works just fine for me
[20:13] <jose__> tgpraveen: I don't have them on me, it's why I wanted to know the minimum specs for running it comfortably
[20:13] <blutrille> Anyone have experience customizing Live 8.10 boot process ... dont want to boot to the ubuntu account ... would rather system boot to a user login screen .... any help?
[20:13] <tgpraveen> i think for ubuntu its 384mb ram
[20:13] <phobiac> I'm having a problem with installing linux on my netbook, the install works fine up until the partitioning of the hard drive. The installation doesn't auto detect the driver for the hd, and I have no idea what driver to use. The drive is a Toshiba MK6028GAL ATA device, according to windows. Any one know what driver I should use or where I can find out?
[20:14] <yellabs> lacita : i hope you are not afraid to read Lenovo 3000 Y410
[20:14] <tgpraveen> jose__: processor not sure check the ubuntu site or google it
[20:14] <macman_> ok .. one sec
[20:14] <marco> why UDF dvds don't mount on my ubuntu box?
[20:14] <yellabs> lacita : i hope you are not afraid to read http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=N_Series_Lenovo_3000&message.id=7722
[20:14] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: fixed screen problems by inputting "Live vga=771 napic nolapic" on the alternate CD I am the configure network screen of the menu I'll keep you updated sporadically if that's ok
[20:14] <lacita> yellabs, thanks...
[20:14] <jose__> I'm pretty sure it's only a few years old, so I know it'll run Xubuntu just fine.  I'll get my hands on it this evening
[20:15] <evowill_> blutrille, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[20:15] <pop79> i need the genius g-pen 450 to work with ubuntu as a mouse and to work with gimp. how do i do this?
[20:15] <lacita> yellabs, thanks... but I've already tried it.
[20:15] <yellabs> ok
[20:15] <macman_> WyHiWyL, so say i play it with mplayer .. i want to convert it to mpg so i can use devde to make it into a movie
[20:15] <yellabs> to bad
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, glad to hear it
[20:15] <jose__> heck, if this pentium 2 384 MB RAM with a 13GB HD can run Xubuntu, then this thing will fly
[20:16] <mylogic> is alpha 2 the newest release of jaunty?
[20:16] <blutrille> evowill_: ok thx ill look into it
[20:16] <yellabs> lacita , you also treid to select an other sound system like oss?
[20:16] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: can you tell me what "live vga=771" means?
[20:16] <WyHiWyL> macman_: you can use ffmpeg to convert
[20:16] <Kristoffer> can anyone help me with a software question?
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> mylogic, Try #ubuntu+1
[20:16] <_Zeus_> How can I install a tgz from launchpad source?
[20:16] <macman_> WyHiWyL, what is the command .. mplayer file1 ?
[20:16] <DIFH-iceroot> Kristoffer: how should we know?
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, You are forcing vesa/vga res
[20:16] <yellabs> lacita , in system / preferences / sound?
[20:16] <lacita> yellabs, I had it working with alsa before.
[20:16] <torc> is there a way to access my Wine folder (linux) from Windows?
[20:16] <yellabs> ok
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile > _Zeus_
[20:17] <evowill_> blutrille, also if you don't want to do it yourself, you can find some others have already done what you as, let google be your guide :-)
[20:17] <WyHiWyL> macman_: are you trying to play or convert the file?
[20:17] <macman_> WyHiWyL, play it first .. if it works then convert it
[20:17] <evowill_> as = ask
[20:17] <NOHELL> LOLOLOOL http://ptlancer.freehostia.com/ .
[20:17] <NOHELL> LOLOLOOL http://ptlancer.freehostia.com/
[20:17] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: I hope that is a good thing. It seems near to what you were indicating if Im not mistaken?
[20:17] <yellabs> lacita , in system / preferences / sound? take an look anyway, to see if its set to alsa
[20:17] <NOHELL> LOLOLOOL http://ptlancer.freehostia.com/ .
[20:17] <Jack_Sparrow> _Zeus_  It is still way better to stick to the official repos
[20:17] <lacita> yellabs, no. the test fails
[20:17] <yellabs> i see
[20:17] <torc> what are some excellent sound/video file conversion software for linux?
[20:17] <_Zeus_> Jack_Sparrow: I know how to do it like that, there is no configure file
[20:17] <_Zeus_> and make or make install does nothing
[20:17] <pop79> wat is new with the 9.04 development release?
[20:17] <lacita> yellabs, yes, also is selected, but OSS doesn't work either.
[20:17] <WyHiWyL> why don't you play it frist and tell me if it works?
[20:18] <torc> is there a way to access my Wine folder (linux) from Windows?
[20:18] <meho_> Hey Jack Whats the crack
[20:18] <hwilde> !jackalope > pop79
[20:18] <Kristoffer> well the company i work for is switching all of their systems to ubuntu which is wonderful. I have been tasked to find a human resource application that can keep track of employee information along with time off requests and if possible help with employee scheduling. is their any type applications you can recommend me checking out?
[20:18] <macman_> WyHiWyL, it won't i get an error .. "ProcessInputError "
[20:18] <Jack_Sparrow> _Zeus_  Then it isnt something I would trust to  install on my machine
[20:18] <omaruko> hi
[20:18] <marco> Some dvds written on Vista are not opening on my ubuntu box, it seems to be an UDF issue. Anyone knows anything about this?
[20:18] <_Zeus_> it's from launchpad.net
[20:18] <omaruko> i need help
[20:18] <hwilde> torc, Linux can read and write ntfs, so move your files from linux to windows that way
[20:18] <hwilde> !ntfs > torc
[20:18] <hwilde> omaruko, ask your question, if you can in one line
[20:18] <omaruko> i think that i have problems to run compiz fusion
[20:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Kristoffer, Put it into a spreadsheet..
[20:18] <hwilde> !compiz > omaruko
[20:19] <meho_> Kristoffer: use the one u used up till now but use it aling side wine and its going to be like propper
[20:19] <aberratic> where can I get a python2.5.pc pkg-config file?
[20:19] <hwilde> marco, why do you say some?  some work then?
[20:19] <DustBunnies> Maybe I'm a huge noob, but when I tell my computer to use Ubuntu (I duel boot with XP) it starts up with a GRUB Command Line Interface and I don't know what commands to type to start a GUI
[20:19] <mylogic> Kristoffer: http://webscripts.softpedia.com/script/Portal-Systems/Human-Resources-3500.html
[20:19] <Kristoffer> meho it actually crashes under wine
[20:19] <WyHiWyL> macman_: in this situation, i dont know how to fix you prob, maybe your file is damaged. sorry!
[20:19] <hwilde> DustBunnies,  what does the command line prompt say
[20:19] <MariachiAC> Hello. I just have a quick question. I use ubuntu with the orca screen reader. why does the Ubuntu community choose pulseaduio over alsa?
[20:19] <macman_> hmm.. cool WyHiWyL thanks
[20:20] <hwilde> !alsa > MariachiAC
[20:20] <hwilde> !pulse > MariachiAC
[20:20] <marco> hwilde: yes, it seems vista writes in good ole' ISO9660 and the UDF thing. The UDF thing seems to be incompatible with my ubuntu box
[20:20] <yellabs> lacita , i am looking around a bit to see if i can come up with an answer
[20:20] <DustBunnies> I didn't copy down the text that is at the top, but it is something about press TAB for a list of options, it doesn't state what command to start the GUI I think
[20:20] <DustBunnies> Its grub>
[20:20] <hwilde> marco, but you said "some" so some of them work?
[20:20] <WyHiWyL> macman_: maybe you should try $ffmpeg -i /path/to/file and tell me the result
[20:20] <hwilde> DustBunnies, did you try just hitting enter?
[20:21] <DustBunnies> hitting enter just put grub> again
[20:21] <omaruko> :S
[20:21] <omaruko> some body help
[20:21] <WyHiWyL> macman_: the command will show you more details about the file
[20:21] <DustBunnies> But then again, I've typed help and used tab before I press entered to try to figure it out
[20:21] <hwilde> DustBunnies, well just ytpe in "boot"
[20:21] <macman_> ok
[20:21] <DustBunnies> hmm I guess I'll try that, I asked another ubuntu user and he said startx (which didn't work)
[20:21] <icesword> DustBunnies, restate it
[20:21] <tgpraveen> omaruko: detail your problems
[20:22] <yellabs> lacita , last try for you , http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=N_Series_Lenovo_3000&message.id=2131
[20:22] <meho_> Ok anyone know where the ubuntu appl is in ubuntu as i want to resume my torrents its important
[20:22] <hwilde> DustBunnies, you are at the Grub boot loader, it hasn't loaded any OS yet
[20:22] <tgpraveen> omaruko: describe what exactly is the prob
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers
[20:22] <tgpraveen> bye everyone
[20:22] <hwilde> DustBunnies, also you should never be seeing that prompt.  what changed on your computer
[20:22] <yellabs> lacita , i hope you can get it working, got to go now, its late
[20:22] <DustBunnies> Nothing
[20:22] <meho_> i ment bittorrent
[20:22] <DustBunnies> I have been using XP for a while
[20:22] <yellabs> bye all
[20:22] <MariachiAC> ok thank you.
[20:22] <DustBunnies> then I decided to use ubuntu
[20:22] <DustBunnies> so I burned a CD
[20:22] <DustBunnies> I installed it
[20:22] <FloodBot2> DustBunnies: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:22] <hwilde> !enter > DustBunnies
[20:23] <StuckMojo> how the fook do you actually completely disable POS pulseaudio in 8.10???
[20:23] <hwilde> !attitude > StuckMojo
[20:23] <hwilde> !alsa > StuckMojo
[20:23] <Laderius> now that i installed medibuntu, how do i see whats avaible?
[20:23] <hwilde> DustBunnies, try just typing "boot" if you could
[20:23] <hwilde> !medibuntu | Laderius
[20:23] <DustBunnies> I will, thank you. I'll restart and try that
[20:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Laderius, Browse with synaptic, but they are not differenciated from the other programs on opther repos
[20:24] <macman_> WyHiWyL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/100554/
[20:24] <Laderius> Jack_Sparrow thanks
[20:24] <marco> hwilde: Yes. the ones written using ISO9660 seem to work fine. Only the ones using UDF seem to be incompatible
[20:24] <Laderius> also, is there a ubuntu port for utorrent?
[20:24] <pop79> what is the pastebin?
[20:24] <StuckMojo> hwilde: the only way i was able to get it to turn off, despite trying all the methods on the forums, was to change /usr/bin/pulseaudio to a symlink to /bin/true
[20:24] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: oh snap! 771 is for a 800x600 display whereas mine is a 1280x800 I hope I can rectify this later. thoughts...
[20:24] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:25] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, So you got that link
[20:25] <StuckMojo> hwilde: which gets overwritten every time the pulse packages get upgraded
[20:25] <MariachiAC> So I woudl hasve ot stay with pulse audio thten. It just seems a bit slow with speech as far as thats concerned.
[20:25] <hwilde> StuckMojo, if you are really sure that's what you want to do....    sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio
[20:25] <yellabs> macman ffmpeg -i nameinputfile nameoutputfile
[20:25] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: yes thanx should have acknowledged that
[20:25] <hwilde> marco, there are posts all over about your problem and it sounds like a Vista issue.  ubuntu can obviously read dvds
[20:25] <StuckMojo> hwilde: for some reason gnome-session starts it even if you've got disabled in /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[20:25] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, np
[20:26] <hwilde> StuckMojo, not if you remove --purge it.
[20:26] <StuckMojo> hwilde: yeah problem with that is about 40 packages in gnome depend on it
[20:26] <yellabs> macman ffmpeg --help
[20:26] <conterpro> hi, i seek tried usb-phone for skype (Linux ubu 8.10). pls reference
[20:26] <StuckMojo> hwilde: well...actually it's only the metapackage ubuntu-desktop
[20:27] <StuckMojo> hwilde: but removing that will screw up upgrades and such
[20:27] <marco> hwilde: it can read DVDs of a specific format. It is incompatible with newer UDF DVDs because no one seems to bother about making linux distros compatible to them. Or at least that's what I found from google.
[20:27] <macman_> yellabs, WyHiWyL .. there is a lot of disabled options ie .. --disable-armv5te --disable-armv6
[20:27] <StuckMojo> hwilde: running pulse screws up my mixer, which is why i don't want it. my card processes multiple streams just fine, i don't need a sound server
[20:28] <yellabs> macman sorry mate, its man ffmpeg
[20:28] <yellabs> to see help\
[20:28] <hwilde> StuckMojo, I have told you how to remove it completely if that's what you want to do
[20:28] <mogi22> where does samba store user/pw info?
[20:29] <hwilde> marco, http://ascending.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/howto-read-vista-burnt-udf-dvds-on-ubuntu-linux/
[20:29] <WyHiWyL> yellabs: he only want to see the information about the file
[20:29] <yellabs> oh
[20:29] <yellabs> hehe
[20:29] <StuckMojo> hwilde: i'd just like to find out the proper way to tell the system i don't want to use it. removing it completely causes dependency issues
[20:29] <StuckMojo> hwilde: but thanks
[20:29] <LordDicranius> when viewing the routing table via CLI, what does an asterisk mean unde the gateway column?
[20:30] <hwilde> StuckMojo, read the link from ubottu about alsa.  it explains how to set alsa as the default
[20:30] <hwilde> !alsa > StuckMojo
[20:30] <WyHiWyL> macman_: you download this file from internet? if so, i think the process is not successful, because the duration is very short, just about 5secs
[20:30] <hwilde> LordDicranius, usually all you really need to look for is the one that says "default" that is your default gateway
[20:30] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: made it to "Select and install software" so far - "configuring language-pack-en-base"
[20:30] <macman_> ok
[20:30] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, great..  well done dude
[20:31] <yellabs> WyHiWyL, i guess my concentration is getting low, better turn in, thanks for the remark
[20:31] <LordDicranius> hwilde: thanks, I know, but I was just wondering what an asterisk means :)
[20:31] <macman_> i will re-download
[20:31] <macman_> :D
[20:31] <yellabs> bye bye all
[20:31] <yellabs> good luck and have an nice night
[20:32] <sacamano> join #mythbuntu
[20:32] <hwilde> LordDicranius, it means "all".  those lines with the stars really differentiate subnet traffic and interfaces
[20:32] <memenotyou> how do I give a user sudo privledges from the command line?
[20:33] <marco> hwilde: thanks. Weird they didn't integrate the support in the main kernel yet, isn't it? Surely is making a lot of users confused...
[20:33] <hwilde> memenotyou, the user has to be added to the admin group
[20:33] <djolefol> Is there a way in Evolution mail client to password protect the message pane of imap account? Like presented in here: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/tips#beh_imappassword
[20:33] <macman_> bbs
[20:33] <memenotyou> hwilde:  how do I do that from the command line?
[20:33] <hwilde> marco, i dunno, you can ask in ubuntu+1 if it's on target for hte next release
[20:34] <hwilde> memenotyou, add the username to the admin: line in the file /etc/group
[20:36] <Jaison> Hello peeps
[20:38] <Jaison> noone here I guess?
[20:38] <ericjung> i installed ibex from windows and now hibernate in Ubuntu doesn't work (as expected). Is there any way to get it to work?
[20:38] <Jaison> noone is answering
[20:38] <user_> !ask | Jaison
[20:39] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: I thought this would reboot to a gui  but it appears to be a terminal "To run a command as administrator (user "root") use "sudo <command>." See man sudo_root" for details."  ~$   What  happened?
[20:39] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: see, we all met in the channel where we really answer questions, and said "nobody answer his questions"
[20:39] <WyHiWyL> imp_mstr: maybe your swap partition is too small, it must be at least equal the RAM
[20:40] <Jaison> I just hello I was trying to be polite
[20:40] <aws> hola como andan saludos desde argentina!!!!!
[20:40] <marco>  hello Jaison, how can we be of help?
[20:40] <WyHiWyL> ericjung: maybe your swap partition is too small, it must be at least equal the RAM
[20:40] <gandyman> Hi - Getting error " can't mount volume " - Have another NTFS windows hard drive installed in this computer - any idea's ? ?
[20:40] <IndyGunFreak> WyHiWyL: you can have no swap file if you like, its not required
[20:40] <aws> hi people!!!!!!
[20:40] <Bodsda> gandyman, does it give a reason?
[20:40] <Jaison> but my question is how can I save my nvidia config settings it want let me
[20:41] <Jack_Sparrow> marabout, May I pm you
[20:41] <aws> alguien habla español?
[20:41] <gandyman> Bodsda; hang on - will go try again.
[20:41] <WyHiWyL> IndyGunFreak: it's required for suspend or hibernate
[20:41] <sinbox> !es
[20:41] <IndyGunFreak> WyHiWyL: ah, i didn't see this was about suspend.
[20:41] <unr3a1> evowill_: thank you
[20:41] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: do you have the restricted driver enabled?
[20:41] <aws> gracias
[20:41] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: yes by all means
[20:41] <Jaison> how do I tell that
[20:42] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: system/admin/hardware drivers
[20:42] <mgolisch> why doesnt the gentoo coreutils patch apply to ubuntu coreutils?
[20:42] <ericjung> WyHiWyL: how can i find my swap partition size?
[20:42] <WyHiWyL> $ sudo fdisk -l
[20:42] <mgolisch> even if i use the patch for whatever version the sourcepackage of coreutils claims to be
[20:42] <ericjung> WyHiWyL: I don't think there is a swap partition then
[20:42] <hwilde> ericjung, cat /proc/swaps
[20:43] <Jaison> its says proprietary drivers are being used and I have version 173
[20:43] <user_> mgolisch: maybe ubuntu version is also a patched upstream version?
[20:43] <ericjung> eric@ubuntu:~$ cat /proc/swaps
[20:43] <ericjung> Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
[20:43] <WyHiWyL> $ sudo fdisk -l | grep swap
[20:43] <hwilde> ericjung, ok then you have no swap.
[20:43] <hwilde> ericjung, you should also not find it in /etc/fstab
[20:43] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: ok, so open a terminal and type "gksudo nvidia-settings"... make the chanes, apply, then "save to configuration file"
[20:43] <mgolisch> user_: even if i try to apply to that tar_orig thing which if i understand correctly is the unpatched upstream source, or should atleast be
[20:43] <ericjung> hwilde: /prc/swaps shows a swap but fdisk -l does not
[20:44] <WyHiWyL> ericjung: so if you have no swap, then you cannot suspend or hibernate
[20:44] <hwilde> ericjung, is the swap partition set to be mounted in /etc/fstab
[20:44] <mgolisch> very weird, i want cp -g so bad
[20:44] <mgolisch> :)
[20:44] <gandyman> Bodsda; hey - Funny thing - It's working now - Thanks anyway. - Must have had to let permissions come through or something.
[20:44] <Jaison> ok so run this app in as root and it will change it
[20:44] <Bodsda> gandyman, oh, cool :)
[20:44] <ericjung> hwilde: yes, it is in fstab
[20:45] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: it should, as long asyou "save to configuration file"
[20:45] <marco> how can I download the source code from a specific package? Can I use APT tools to do that?
[20:45] <ASULutzy> ericjung: you can just do sudo swapon -s to show your swap
[20:45] <Jaison> do I need the gk cuz ive been using just sudo
[20:45] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: yes, sudo is for CLI, if you're running GUI apps, you need gksudo
[20:45] <IndyGunFreak> !gksudo | Jaison
[20:45] <ericjung> ASULutzy: it says /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk            file		976552	4952	-1
[20:45] <ASULutzy> ericjung: If it doesn't return anything, you can also use swapon to assign a partition for use as swap, for example if /dev/sda6 is a swap partition then sudo swapon /dev/sda6 would tell the OS to use /dev/sda6 for swap
[20:46] <ericjung> i have a swap file
[20:46] <ericjung> that isn't the problem
[20:46] <ericjung> it is 976552 in size, whatever that means
[20:46] <ericjung> but i have 4GB of ram
[20:46] <ASULutzy> ericjung: Why are you using a swap file and not a swap partition?
[20:47] <Jaison> ok thanks all alot guys I appreciate the knowledge cuz today is only my second day with linux
[20:47] <ericjung> ASULutzy: I took ubuntu installation defaults
[20:47] <ericjung> ASULutzy: it installed inside Windows Vista
[20:47] <ericjung> ASULutzy: and now I cann't hibernate Ubuntu
[20:47] <ASULutzy> ericjung: Oh. You're using Wubi
[20:47] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[20:47] <ericjung> ASULutzy: yes
[20:47]  * IndyGunFreak growls.. dang wubi users.. never tell anyone that
[20:47] <ASULutzy> ericjung: Do a real install IMO ;)
[20:47] <Laderius> Hey Iphone and Ubuntu help is found where?
[20:48] <ericjung> ASULutzy: wubi is not ubuntu?
[20:48] <gurps1> what the hell is wubi?
[20:48] <Laderius> wubi is windows based ubuntu install
[20:48] <ericjung> wubi is a star wars character
[20:48] <Laderius> Wubi (Windows-based Ubuntu Installer) is an official Windows-based free software installer for Ubuntu, licensed under the GPL.
[20:49] <gurps1> What are its advantages?
[20:49] <Laderius> nothing
[20:49] <Laderius> there are disadvantages
[20:49] <Laderius> like you have a windows poartition
[20:49] <Laderius> partition*
[20:49] <Laderius> and you can use your entire HDD
[20:49] <Laderius> because of the ntfs filesystem
[20:50] <bLuE_AciD> Hello
[20:50] <gurps1> Okay..thanks
[20:50] <Laderius> gurps1 np
[20:50] <ASULutzy> There are no real advantages to using Wubi, other than some people don't want to try to setup a dualboot. There are myriad disadvantages. I would suggest doing a proper dual boot
[20:50] <Laderius> I need iphone ubuntu help!
[20:50] <ericjung> can wubi install by migrated to a real install, or must i start over?
[20:50] <bLuE_AciD> FOr whoever asked what wubi was, its a installer for ubuntu, it just is installed from windows if you don't have a disk, and it doesnt make a new partition which blows
[20:50] <gurps1> Im going to install Ubuntu onto my desktop PC,currently running windows xp, how to i go about dual booting?
[20:50] <IndyGunFreak> i think you have to start over...
[20:50] <ericjung> IndyGunFreak: no!!!
[20:50] <bLuE_AciD> Gurps
[20:50] <ASULutzy> ericjung: To answer your original question, I'm not sure you can actually hibernate with Wubi
[20:50] <gurps1> yes
[20:50] <bLuE_AciD> I recommend not dual booting
[20:51] <hwilde> gurps1, just stick in the live c and it should prompt you through it
[20:51] <bLuE_AciD> But if you want to
[20:51] <ASULutzy> ericjung: And that might not be true
[20:51] <IndyGunFreak> !dualboot | gurps1
[20:51] <hwilde> !enter | bLuE_AciD
[20:51] <ASULutzy> ericjung: You may be able to migrate a wubi install
[20:51] <unr3a1> how can one make ubuntu able to recognize the UDF filesystem type?
[20:51] <IndyGunFreak> ASULutzy: i've never heard of migratiung one.. that would be entertaining
[20:51] <bLuE_AciD> !Sorry | hwilde
[20:51] <ASULutzy> ericjung, IndyGunFreak: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[20:52] <gurps1> hwilde: The live cd will prompt me through what exactly?
[20:52] <rainabba> I'm having an odd problem. "System Monitor" says that I'm only using 777MB RAM of the 7.8GB I have total, but "free -m" says I'm using 4614. Why the discrepancy? I am runnign hardy x86_64.
[20:52] <bLuE_AciD> Gurps, just use wubi if you going to dual boot, really no point in a disk.
[20:52] <IndyGunFreak> ASULutzy: hmm, maybe not as bad as i thought... never heard of LVPM..
[20:52] <user_> unr3a1: in which context?
[20:52] <ASULutzy> bLuE_AciD: You're wrong. Don't spread misinformation.
[20:52] <hwilde> gurps1, it will show your partitions and how much free space on your drive, then show how much ubuntu will take up next to win, then it will setup the dual boot and everyhitng.
[20:53] <unr3a1> I need to burn an ISO to a CD
[20:53] <Jaison> Since the convo is on duel booting, I have upgrade my kernel to 2.6.27-9-generic but still have <IP_ADDRESS> in grub how do I clean that up
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Blue-Omega, Wrong.. very wrong
[20:53] <hwilde> Jaison, /boot/grub/menu.list
[20:53] <hwilde> Jack_Sparrow, last-spoke not alphabetical tab complete :)
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Blue_acid, Wrong.. very wrong
[20:53] <ASULutzy> Jaison: Grub automatically generates the menu.lst based on what it sees. Everytime you upgrade it will readd those entries, even if you manually remove them from menu.lst
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[20:53] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    and put a # sign in front of the entries you don't want in your grub menu (i woudln't recommend deleting them)
[20:53] <ASULutzy> Jaison: I would recommend just not bothering, but if you really want to clean them up you'll have to actually go about uninstalling the old kernels
[20:54] <Laderius> how can i transfer apps to my iphone in ubuntu without itunes?!
[20:54] <IndyGunFreak> ASULutzy: you can comment them out no problem at all.. and they won't show up
[20:54] <Jaison> So Is that safe
[20:54] <user_> unr3a1: i think you you can right click on the iso file in the file manager and start up a burn program.. it will detect the burner and the medium
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Laderius: you coul copy the install files over
[20:54] <hwilde> Jaison, just ignoring them is safe.
[20:54] <gurps1> hwilde: Thank you very much indeed!!
[20:54] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: what?.. commenting them out?..of course, its safe ignoring them to.. i just wouldn't recommend deleting them.
[20:54] <ASULutzy> IndyGunFreak: But when you install a new kernel, Grub will go ahead and readd them unless you remove them, right?
[20:54] <rainabba> I'm having an odd problem. "System Monitor" says that I'm only using 777MB RAM of the 7.8GB I have total, but "free -m" says I'm using 4614. Why the discrepancy? I am runnign hardy x86_64.
[20:54] <Jaison> IM OCD its hard
[20:54] <Jack_Sparrow> hwilde, Looking for that option in xchat as we speak
[20:55] <IndyGunFreak> ASULutzy: once i comment my old ones out, they never show up again
[20:55] <Jaison> I will comment them out
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> hwilde,got it
[20:55] <ASULutzy> IndyGunFreak: You may be right, I just never bother to remove them :)
[20:55] <IndyGunFreak> ASULutzy: lol
[20:55] <BBonifield> i'm attempting to mount a RAID-5 array into Ubuntu(from a live CD).  The original RAID host was a stand-alone file server unit.  however, Ubuntu isn't recognizing the disks in /dev/.  thoughts?
[20:55] <hajmola> is there a way to have a live USB pendrive, so that I can boot a computer off of it and install ubuntu onto the local harddrive?
[20:55] <hwilde> Jack_Sparrow, should be default u know
[20:55] <Laderius> ActionParsnip the IPA files?
[20:55] <gogereaver> hajmola yes
[20:55] <usr13> rainabba: Are you new to linux?
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> hwilde, Should have been, this is a fresh ibex, and it wasnt
[20:55] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: just put a # sign in front of the "Title" you don't want to appear, then save and exit.
[20:56] <ASULutzy> hajmola: Yes, Intrepid actually has a built in tool to make a live-usb
[20:56] <gogereaver> on 8.10 in the menu slect make bottable usb drive easy
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> Laderius: i guess, i dont use iphone but id imagine it can be done
[20:56] <hajmola> ASULutzy, really? where at?
[20:56] <gogereaver> hajmola the system menu if i rember
[20:56] <ASULutzy> hajmola: System -> Administration -> Create a USB startup disk
[20:56] <hwilde> Jack_Sparrow, alphabet is default
[20:57] <hajmola> ASULutzy, gogereaver, thanks!
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> hwilde, ty
[20:57] <rainabba> usr13: Not exactly, but my focus has been higher-level.
[20:57] <usr13> rainabba: See:  http://www.ntlug.org/Articles/MemoryManagement
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Laderius: check the apple site to see if its possible that way. i hate apple so can say from personal experience
[20:57] <ASULutzy> rainabba: Probably the difference between your buffers and caches, I think free counts the amount used by buffers and caches and perhaps system monitor doesn't?
[20:57]  * gogereaver slaps ActionParsnip around a bit with a large trout
[20:57] <Lighttitan> i don't use the iphone either =P... i have an Android G1 developer phone and am loving it!
[20:58] <rainabba> ASULutzy: Makes sense.
[20:58] <gogereaver> what he trying to do to his ipohne
[20:58] <gurps1> !dualboot
[20:58] <Jaison> so I need to put # in front of every line right?
[20:58] <cameron_> 3 cd's now
[20:58] <cameron_> that i have burnt
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> gogereaver: its poor bang for buck and people lap up ipods without considering other players, creating isheep
[20:58] <cameron_> all 3 have a corrupt file
[20:58] <ASULutzy> Jaison: Not every line :) the lines of the old kernel entries
[20:58] <Jaison> that i don't want there corrcet
[20:58] <cameron_> i downloaded via bittorrent and md5 check is right
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> cameron_: did you md5 check the iso?
[20:59] <gogereaver> i ahve a ipod tuch and a samsong yp-f1
[20:59] <user_> cameron_: try lower burn speed
[20:59] <Lighttitan> cameron... ubuntu cd's?
[20:59] <Jaison> Yeah thats what i meant sorry
[20:59] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: in front of the title, yes
[20:59] <gogereaver> and a psp
[20:59] <cameron_> kubuntu
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> cameron_ what speed are you burning at?
[20:59] <CrocoJet> how to start one program (for example glxgears) many times in unique command ?
[20:59] <cameron_> i tried 48x the first 2 times
[20:59] <cameron_> the 3rd time i did 16x
[20:59] <Lighttitan> what program are you using to burn?
[20:59] <Laderius> ActionParsnip, dosent work that way, im installing virtualbox and will emulate itunes :/
[20:59] <scoremeformusic> hello, could someone help me with a music picard problem? it deletes any files I tag using it
[20:59] <unr3a1> user_: I have tried that.  all it does is extract the files that it recognizes
[20:59] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: it should look like this... #Title Ubuntu bla bla bla.. .. then that title will not appear in your grub list
[20:59] <cameron_> ripped as an iso and checked the md5 on the new iso and doesnt match up
[20:59] <cameron_> k3b
[20:59] <rainabba> ASULutzy: That wouldn't explain the following though would it? With 8GB of RAM, running x86_64 bit kernel, I show nearly 4GB used with nothing running except Opera with a few tabs, and VMWare workstation with the guest shut down.
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Laderius: looks like the only solution
[21:00] <gogereaver> jailbroken ipod tuch = tablet psp
[21:00] <Jaison> Just the titles or all four entries like uuid kernel initrid
[21:00] <gogereaver> pc
[21:00] <cameron_> i currently use slamd64 i like it but i want to *try* kubuntu so i dont have to compile kde 4 to try it
[21:00] <unr3a1> user_: I found this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/81922-how-read-udf-filesystem-linux.html but that path no longer exists for the .config file
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> cameron_: does the cd pass integrity check once booted to?
[21:00] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: just the title
[21:00] <scoremeformusic> no, sorry it doesn't delete it, it makes it unplayable
[21:00] <Jaison> cool
[21:00] <cameron_> ActionParsnip, no, comes back "1 file . .. . .blah"
[21:00] <wash-hasted> sun xvm virtual box is great
[21:00] <theking> how do I format a hard drive via a terminal
[21:00] <ASULutzy> rainabba: what does free -m actually say?
[21:00] <cameron_> ive already wasted 3 disks i just dont want to waste another
[21:00] <rainabba> wash-hasted: Lies! It's all lies!
[21:00] <wash-hasted> haha
[21:00] <cameron_> is there any way to use lilo to boot off an iso ?
[21:00] <theking> brb
[21:01] <ASULutzy> cameron_: Not lilo, but there is unetbootin
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> cameron_: could try burning it at 4x or use a different burner
[21:01] <cameron_> only burner i got
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> cameron_: are you burning from Linux, you could try a different app
[21:01] <cameron_> makes me wonder
[21:01] <rainabba> ASULutzy: total/used/free of 7999/4614/3384   when the VM isn't running.
[21:01] <scoremeformusic> can anyone help me with a musicbrainz picard problem? it keeps rendering any file I play unusable
[21:01] <ASULutzy> Why does no one ever recommend unetbootin?
[21:01] <cameron_> cus i burnt GB's and GB's of movies to dvds itd be gay
[21:01] <scoremeformusic> I have all codecs installed
[21:01] <Lighttitan> cameron... are you burning the iso to the disk or are you opening the iso with k3b then burning the contents of thr iso?
[21:01] <user01> hi, graphics question, is eps vector-based?
[21:01] <WyHiWyL> ASULutzy: unetbootin is a tool to make liveusb, or am i wrong?
[21:01] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: note lines 137 and 143   http://paste.ubuntu.com/100570/
[21:01] <ASULutzy> rainabba: the whole line, what are the buffers and caches
[21:02] <rainabba> ASULutzy: 7999/7951/47 when it is.
[21:02] <theking> back
[21:02] <rainabba> Ahh
[21:02] <Ryan_Delaney> I have a stupid question: Whenever I ssh to my fileserver it asks me for the password to the default keyring, but I never got a chance to set that password and don't know how to set/change the default keyring password. Where is that, and what app controls it (preferably with the command line)?
[21:02] <user_> unr3a1: from which medium are you trying to read and where do you want to burn to?
[21:02] <rainabba> ASULutzy: Right now it's running and shows 7999/7952/47/0/123/6961. Lemme shut the guest back down to check it then.
[21:02] <ASULutzy> WyHiWyL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNetbootin You can use it to install from an .iso to hard disk without burning a CD
[21:02] <ASULutzy> rainabba: Don't shutdown
[21:03] <ASULutzy> rainabba: Oh, the guest OS, yea go ahead if you want
[21:03] <linxeh> Ryan_Delaney: apropos keyring
[21:03] <rainabba> yah
[21:03] <IndyGunFreak> i've always used it to create thumb drives to install from, works great for that
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_Delaney: http://mexpolk.blogspot.com/2008/02/ubuntu-change-default-keyring-password.html
[21:03] <theking> how do I format a hard drive via a terminal
[21:03] <dman> any reason why my windows are loading locked to the upper left corner
[21:03] <Ryan_Delaney> linxeh: thanks
[21:03] <Ryan_Delaney> :)
[21:03] <pop79> how can i get my genius g-pen 450 to work on ubuntu?
[21:03] <unr3a1> user_: the ISO is on my harddrive
[21:03] <Jaison> man I love this channel, Its so much easier than reading for two days to do one simple thing
[21:03] <unr3a1> user_: and I am trying to burn it to a DVD
[21:03] <ASULutzy> theking: What do you mean by format, are you looking to erase all the files on the drive (and if so how securely)? Or are you trying to repartition a drive?
[21:03] <WyHiWyL> ASULutzy: oh, so i didn't know its full power :)
[21:03] <rainabba> ASULutzy: Now it shows 7999/4611/3384/0/118/3712
[21:04] <theking> ASULutzy, erase all files on the drive securely
[21:04] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: well, sometimes you still have to read for two-three days, but this channel is generally a wealth of info
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> theking: man mk2fs
[21:04] <Lighttitan> pop79, have you done a search on the ubuntu forms about you pen?
[21:04] <pop79> yeop :)
[21:04] <ASULutzy> theking: How securely, like NSA securely or?
[21:04] <theking> no
[21:04] <user_> unr3a1: ok, and the problem is with the iso, the conversion, or the burning process?
[21:04] <scoremeformusic> how do I get the list of roms
[21:04] <scoremeformusic> *rooms
[21:04] <theking> ASULutzy, just a simple wipe
[21:04] <Lighttitan> pop79, and it turned up nothing?
[21:04] <gogereaver> type /rooms
[21:04] <macman> guys .. how can i use ntfsprogs to make a ntfs partition on a usb drive ?
[21:04] <unr3a1> there are 2.4GB worth of files in the ISO
[21:04] <pop79> well, no
[21:05] <rainabba> ASULutzy: I've now closed everything except the termal I'm using (and X of course) and still show 4430 used and 3713 cached.
[21:05] <unr3a1> but ubuntu is only seeing maybe 200KB of them....
[21:05] <gogereaver> wrong lol
[21:05] <Jaison> I tried to install the 64bit flashplayer last night and I read for 4 hours and it took like 5 minutes to do it and what i read did not tell me anything about what i did
[21:05] <ASULutzy> theking: If all you want to do is erase everything and it's a simple wipe just remove all the partitions and call it a day ;) you can do that with fdisk
[21:05] <gogereaver> its /list
[21:05] <ASULutzy> rainabba: Right
[21:05] <unr3a1> one of which is a txt file saying that it needs to be viewed in a OS that supports the UDF filesystem
[21:05] <ASULutzy> rainabba: 4430 - 3713 = ?
[21:05] <ASULutzy> rainabba: the amount that is cached is considered used
[21:05] <ASULutzy> rainabba: I'm guessing anyway :)
[21:05] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: are you using 8.10
[21:05] <theatrustop> ASULutzy, it is
[21:06] <Jaison> yep ultimate edition 2.0
[21:06] <theatrustop> Linux will gobble up free memory for disk cache
[21:06] <IndyGunFreak> Jaison: ah, ultimate edition...
[21:06] <rainabba> ASULutzy: Makes sense again. Trouble is, VMWare sees that memory as unavailable and it shouldn't be (based on the fact that nothing else is using it).
[21:06] <ASULutzy> rainabba: You are aware that unused RAM is wasted RAM...  Seeya soon.
[21:06] <Jaison> yep utlitmate edition x6f
[21:06] <rainabba> Any way to free that cache up?
[21:06] <Jaison> 64
[21:06] <Lighttitan> pop79, what kind of pen is it again?
[21:07] <user_> unr3a1: ok, so in this "whats in the iso?"-context you came up with the udf-question? so its not related to a burning problem itself?
[21:07] <rainabba> ASULutzy: Ok, but I want VMware to have first dibs on it.
[21:07] <pop79> it is a genius g-pen 450 graphics tablet
[21:07] <rainabba> THEN the guest can have the rest and swap out what it needs from there.
[21:07] <Jaison> I tried their forum, then ubuntu's forum, then firefox forum then adobe forum then here
[21:07] <hajmola> ASULutzy, can I make a partition on my USB harddrive and make it live?
[21:07] <unr3a1> user_: no... the disc burns.  but it only burns the files that Ubuntu is able to recognize in the ISO
[21:07] <usr13> rainabba: YOu can change swappiness value
[21:07] <ASULutzy> rainabba: Hmmm, well, there is this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589975 but that seems iffy :)
[21:07] <rainabba> usr13: For VMWare you mean?
[21:07] <SiDi> Hello
[21:07] <Jaison> alas it was here I achieved my goal
[21:08] <usr13> rainabba: O
[21:08] <SiDi> Does anyone know about a good gui for managing iptables, please ?
[21:08] <ASULutzy> SiDi: Is firestarter the front end? I forget
[21:08] <usr13> SiDi: Firestarter
[21:08] <IndyGunFreak> !firestarter
[21:08] <rainabba> usr13: I've set it to not swap at all because I have enough ram. I want the guest to take it's 4GB, then leave the other ~4GB for the host apps.
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> SiDi: firestarter
[21:08] <SiDi> Hm thanks
[21:08] <user_> unr3a1: ok, you might check the channel of the burn program you are using, which program would that be?
[21:09] <IndyGunFreak> man, some of these bot responses are huge when Im on my aspire one...lol
[21:09] <unr3a1> user_: but its not a problem with the burner
[21:09] <IndyGunFreak> of coruse, i'm trying to do 10 things on an 8.9in screen
[21:09] <usr13> rainabba: I've not used vmware enough to know much about how it works, and I do not run 64 bit kernel either.
[21:09] <ASULutzy> rainabba: That's weird that VMWare won't let you set the amount of RAM given to the guest to 4 GB. Any reason you're set on VMWare instead of VirtualBox?
[21:09] <SiDi> Sorry but firestarter is not what i'm looking for :p
[21:09] <unr3a1> user_: Ubuntu cannot recognize the files in the ISO, because it can't read UDF filesystems
[21:10] <unr3a1> user_: So I am asking how to get Ubuntu to read a UDF file system
[21:10] <usr13> SiDi: Do you just need a good firewall script?
[21:10] <ASULutzy> SiDi: You asked for a graphical front end to iptables. Which is exactly what it is.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> SiDi: firestarter is a good gui to form iptables rules
[21:10] <user_> unr3a1: ok, which ubuntu version are you using?
[21:10] <FireStorm> hey
[21:10] <SiDi> Well, it's for another user who needs to open some specific ports
[21:10] <Jaison> well I have to restart
[21:10] <Jaison> jason@Gameroom:/etc/X11$ mv -v xorg.conf.2009010513592 /etc/X11 xorg.conf
[21:10] <FireStorm> the wubi installer doesnt run
[21:10] <Jaison> mv: target `xorg.conf' is not a directory
[21:10] <Jaison> jason@Gameroom:/etc/X11$ mv -v xorg.conf.2009010513592 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:11] <Jaison> mv: cannot stat `xorg.conf.2009010513592': No such file or directory
[21:11] <FloodBot2> Jaison: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:11] <Jaison> jason@Gameroom:/etc/X11$
[21:11] <hajmola> can I make a bootable live-usb on a 10gb partition in my USB harddrive?
[21:11] <FireStorm> when i try to run it hourglass appears for a second then nothing happens
[21:11] <iShock> Channel #Ubuntu stats updated! View them at: http://vertex.cluenet.org/~lee/ubuntu.html
[21:11] <usr13> SiDi: Are you trying to build a stand-alone firewall router?
[21:11] <SiDi> And as i never felt that need for myself, i have no idea how to do :P and i'm not sure that user wants to do it manually
[21:11] <IndyGunFreak> !paste | Jaison
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> !usb | hajmola
[21:11] <rainabba> ASULutzy: It lets me, but when I go to start the guest it forces me to reduce it to more like 3.2GB because Linux is reporting that 4.4GB is being used. VirtualBox refuses to play nice. No matter how I prep my guest image or how I restore it, I can't get it to run properly under vbox. Either it won't boot, or it does and run slow as shit.
[21:11] <CarlFK> apache2 - where do I set .sh files to be text so they are displayed and not downloaded?
[21:11] <SiDi> usr13: the guy just wants to open ports for css :P
[21:12] <mogi22> is ip/24 same as ip/<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:12] <Laderius> where can i change screensavers?
[21:12] <ASULutzy> rainabba: I'm not sure, sounds like a VMWare bug, you could forcefully clear the cache, but I'm not sure how recommended that is
[21:12] <rascal999> when i record on my microphone the playback is just a buzz
[21:12] <rascal999> why?
[21:12] <usr13> SiDi: firestarter should work for him.
[21:12] <joejc> is it possible to make 2 routers work as 1 network?
[21:12] <rainabba> ASULutzy: Trying gdm restart for now.
[21:13] <rainabba> I'll pull a Microsoft and reboot if nothing else.
[21:13] <Laderius> rainabba what are you trying to do?
[21:13] <unr3a1> user_: 8.10
[21:13] <SiDi> alright then usr13 thanks
[21:13] <pop79> i am trying to move a file to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input to install a driver, but it says that the permission is denied. what do i do to get it in?
[21:14] <ASULutzy> rainabba: sudo echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[21:14] <rainabba> Laderius: Trying to launch my VMWare guest with 4GB allocated to it. I'm running x86_64 kernel with 8GB of RAM, but linux says I'm using 4.4GB and vmware seems to agree so it's telling me to reduce the amount of ram for my guest.
[21:14] <FireStorm> hey, the wubi installer isnt working for me, when i double click it nothing happens..
[21:14] <ASULutzy> rainabba: You could try that, who knows :X
[21:14] <Jaison> im trying to rename a the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2009010513592 to just xorg.conf whats the syntax
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> FireStorm: did yuo md5 check the installer?
[21:15] <Laderius> rainabba, Interesting, im trying to allocate 2gbs ram and ubuntu 32bit says i have 2.7 when i have 4
[21:15] <Hector> :O
[21:15] <ASULutzy> Jaison: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.whatever /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:15]  * Hector dances.
[21:15] <FireStorm> no, but ive used the one on the site thats just he exe, also the one thats just on the ubuntu cd, i should also mention that its worked before and ive installed ubuntu but now i want to uninstall and reinstall, but even the uninstaller doesnt run
[21:16] <rainabba> ASULutzy: Trying, that command, 1 min
[21:17] <user_> unr3a1: ok, still searching
[21:17] <mogi22> if i want sessions (ssh) to timeout after 10 min of inactivity, do i just add TMOUT=600 line to bottom of /etc/profile?
[21:17] <FireStorm> id do cp instead of mv so you save a copy
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> FireStorm: doesnt matter where you download it from ,  you ned to check the downloaded file is correct
[21:18] <ASULutzy> pop79: You have to be root to write outside of your home directory
[21:18] <Laderius> Question: virtualbox cannot read from the boot medium! System Halted error. :/
[21:18] <FireStorm> k how do i do that
[21:18] <meho_> ok i have been to alsa roomand no is is helping can someone help me here
[21:18] <pop79> ASULutzy: how do i do that?
[21:18] <geolr> Hi all! Please help my confusion about FreeNX: Does the system open a new X-session parallel to any other users on the system? Or do I see what Grandma has on her screen?
[21:19] <andy___> hello
[21:19] <user_> unr3a1: which kernel version are you running, "uname -a"?
[21:19] <FireStorm> but shouldnt the uninstaller work since the installer originally worked
[21:19] <baheer> hello all
[21:19] <Jaison> ok I have to restart my computer check on this nvidia xserver thing goodbye guys
[21:19] <pop79> !howdy |andy__
[21:19] <ASULutzy> sudo mv /targetFile /destination/
[21:19] <pop79> thanks
[21:19] <meho_> Code i Put in
[21:19] <meho_> meho@Sex-Central:~/alsa-driver-1.0.18a$ sudo cp ./modules/snd-hda-intel.ko /lib/modules/$( uname -r )/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/
[21:19] <meho_> result
[21:19] <meho_> cp: cannot stat `./modules/snd-hda-intel.ko': No such file or directory
[21:19] <FloodBot2> meho_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <FireStorm> i suspsect the problem is deeper
[21:19] <ASULutzy> !enter | meho_
[21:19] <baheer> I would like to localize this http://start.ubuntu.com/8.10/ page
[21:20] <meho_> will try
[21:20] <FireStorm> since the exact same file works on my other machine
[21:20] <baheer> with whom can I contact?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | FireStorm
[21:20] <baheer> and how can I do?
[21:20] <ASULutzy> meho_: The file doesn't exist.
[21:20] <andy___> which is much better? amd quad core or intel core 2 dou, i plan to upgrade my cpu, and would i run into problmes with it when i install linux?
[21:20] <rainabba> ASULutzy: now free -m looks good
[21:20] <meho_> aaa
[21:21] <meho_> so this reffairing to a file on the system or install files
[21:21] <meho_> that are supose to be installed
[21:21] <ASULutzy> andy___: Preference, both will work just fine,I personally have an Intel Q6600, and the new i7's look pretty nice too, but either will work, and both have their merits.
[21:22] <rainabba> ASULutzy: That works for now.
[21:22] <user_> unr3a1: you have to execute the command in a terminal window, let me know if you need more info (if at all..)
[21:22] <andy___> but in your opinion should i go for intel or amd?
[21:22] <ASULutzy> rainabba: Awesome, glad I could help
[21:22] <unr3a1> user_:  2.6.27-9-generic
[21:22] <rainabba> ASULutzy: :)
[21:22] <ASULutzy> andy___: I told you what I did, but it's up to you
[21:22] <lighttitan> pop79, is the pen you refer to an input device or a tablet?
[21:23] <pop79> a tablet
[21:23] <unr3a1> user_: yea, I am not a complete linux newb :P
[21:23] <unr3a1> user_: at work, so thats why it is taking me longer than normal to do stuff.  have to pay attention to two things at once
[21:24] <user_> unr3a1: judging from this site, you kernel should be fine: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_26, another useful looking page that came up is http://ascending.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/howto-read-vista-burnt-udf-dvds-on-ubuntu-linux/
[21:24] <lighttitan> ah... i found an entry in the ubuntu forums you might like to see if you didn't catch it in your search. it is for the F610 model but it might get you headed in the right direction pop79.
[21:25] <pop79> what is the address?
[21:25] <FireStorm> ActionParsnip none of the file names there match mine as mine is cd sized http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/release/
[21:25] <billybigrigger> is there any gui apps for converting mkv to mp4 for xbox 360 yet?
[21:25] <lighttitan> pop 79, do a search in the ubuntu forums for Genius G-pen F610
[21:25] <FireStorm> also i cant imagine what could go wrong in transfer of the file from wubi-installer.com or whatever since its worked on my other machines fine
[21:25] <FireStorm> also none of that explains why my UNinstaller doesnt work
[21:26] <user_> unr3a1: you might try to manually mount the iso as indicated at the second address (ignoring the compile stuff for now)..
[21:26] <majnoon> !ot
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> FireStorm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[21:26] <ASULutzy> FireStorm: tcp/ip isn't perfect :) as far as the uninstaller, no idea, perhaps it's a Windows problem
[21:27] <pop79> oh, ive actually been searching and i found the instructions on a blog. i really appriciate the help you gave me anyway lighttitan. Thank you, and did you do all that searching for me?
[21:27] <lighttitan> ya, just sorry it was late pop79.
[21:27] <ASULutzy> billybigrigger: mencoder can do anything, just search for mencoder frontends
[21:27] <cameron_> with unetbootin how do you install it without a usb drive ?
[21:28] <unr3a1> user_: I can try that manual mount
[21:28] <mgolisch> ls
[21:28] <mgolisch> ups
[21:28] <pop79> thank you anyway. you were very helpful :) x2!
[21:28] <ASULutzy> cameron_: You tell it to do a hard drive install and point it to the correct partition
[21:28] <cameron_> the only option it gives me
[21:28] <cameron_> is /
[21:28] <cameron_> i have / on its own partition for slamd64 /boot is on /dev/sda1
[21:29] <ASULutzy> cameron_: I guess I don't understand what you're trying to do
[21:30] <cameron_> im trying to boot kubuntu iso
[21:30] <FireStorm> ActionParsnip k md5s are the same
[21:30] <cameron_> isnt unetboot supposed to install a boot loader which loads the selected iso image (if thats what you are trying to do)
[21:31] <philippe>  /join #oe
[21:31] <FireStorm> ya something is wrong with my windows because the uninstaller of wubi doesnt work and the wubi installer doesnt work from the site AND on the cd so does anyone know what is required to run the wubi installer/uninstaller
[21:31] <FireStorm> like some runtime or something
[21:31] <ASULutzy> cameron_: Unetbootin can be used to install an iso directly to your hard drive, do you have a partition setup for Kubuntu?
[21:31] <cameron_> ASULutzy, yes
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> FireStorm: cool
[21:33] <wamcvey> greetings. I am trying to upgrade a Feisty server using do-release-upgrade (tried using update-manager as well) and both are complaining about feisty repositories not being available. in particular,  I get: binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found   for a wide variety of repository servers (us.archive.ubuntu.com, archive.ubuntu.com, mirrors.kernel.org, easynews mirrors, etc)
[21:33] <ASULutzy> wamcvey: Feisty has reached end of life
[21:33] <ASULutzy> !eol
[21:34] <wamcvey> I know.. .that's why I'm upgrading.
[21:34] <wamcvey> I don't want to upgrade *to* feisty... I want to upgrade from it... so why are the feisty repositories a pre-requisite to upgrading to gutsy?
[21:35] <corwin> бля, русский канал забыл =(
[21:35] <ASULutzy> !ru | corwin
[21:35] <ASULutzy> wamcvey: update-manager -d doesn't work?
[21:35] <evowill_> wamcvey they moved the repositories
[21:36] <kdogg> is there a default generic usb driver in Ubuntu?
[21:36] <FireStorm> something is wrong with my windows because the uninstaller of wubi doesnt work and the wubi installer doesnt work from the site AND on the cd so does anyone know what is required to run the wubi installer/uninstaller
[21:36] <evowill_> wamcvey use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[21:36] <evowill_> change your sources list to reflect that, then you will be able to upgrade
[21:37] <ASULutzy> FireStorm: Have you considered that the download was corrupted? Did you actually bother to md5sum the files?
[21:37] <wamcvey> evowill_: thanks, I'll give it a try... still puzzling to the extreme why I need old repositories to be valid to upgrade to new release.
[21:37] <cameron_> okay i have my kubuntu iso on /home (which is on its own partition) trying to use unetbootin to boot off that iso how do i use it, i already have a partition /dev/sda5 for kubuntu
[21:37] <FireStorm> ASULutzy yes
[21:37] <evowill_> wamcvey, because it wants to make sure you have the latest packages before you upgrade
[21:37] <cameron_> hard disk: only drive it gives me is /
[21:37] <cameron_> is that normal?
[21:37] <evowill_> wamcvey, to prevent breakage in the upgrade process, so everyone is on the same page :-)
[21:38] <wamcvey> evowill_: So my deb line should look like: deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted
[21:38] <wamcvey>   right?
[21:38] <ethan> can anyone help me i just reinstaleld ubuntu on my computer and im trying to set up my wireless and i need help idk how to do it and also im trying to update my sytem but the system keeps freezing can anyone help?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> cameron_: you need to make an empty folder to mount the iso to
[21:38] <ASULutzy> !unetbootin
[21:38] <cameron_> how bout /mnt/iso
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> ethan: run lspci or lsusb which will identify the device, you can webserach from there
[21:39] <ASULutzy> Bah, you've failed me again ubottu.
[21:39] <ethan> its an internal
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> cameron_: sounds ideal, you'll need sudo mkdir /mnt/iso first
[21:39] <NintendoGuy0> I'm wondering about the Three 3G Broadband Modem (E160G). Anyone got it working on 8.04? I can't seem to work out how to use it at all!
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> ethan: lspci then
[21:39] <cameron_> mount -t iso9660 it ?
[21:40] <cameron_> or is that for unetbootin to do?
[21:40] <Roasted> Sup fellas... got a quick question... I have an IP of a Windows XP computer that wasn't "playing by the rules" at work. I need to find the host name of it. I tried ping -a <ip> but it didn't pull the host name as it normally does. I have an Ubuntu Intrepid Desktop set up at work. Is there any way in Ubuntu I can pull the Windows host name of this computer?
[21:40] <ethan> actionparsnip its a broadcam bcm4318
[21:40] <wamcvey> evowill: looks like it's working... thanks for the advice about old-releases. Seems to be working.
[21:40] <ethan> actionparsnip can you help?
[21:41] <NintendoGuy02836> I'm wondering about the Three 3G Broadband Modem (E160G). Anyone got it working on 8.04? I can't seem to work out how to use it at all!
[21:41] <ASULutzy> cameron_: Hold on, I'll see if I can find a decent unetbootin howto
[21:41] <wamcvey> evowill: Looks like I spoke too soon... when it does the re-writing of my sources list to upgrade me to gutsy, it's now failing: Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/Release.gpg Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection
[21:42] <ASULutzy> wamcvey: gutsy isn't in eol yet
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | ethan
[21:43] <wamcvey> ASULutzy... I know. *I* didn't make the decision that the old repository URL should be the same repository URL for the new release... that's an assumption of do-release-upgrade apparently.
[21:43] <NintendoGuy02836> excuse me for repeating, but hasn't anyone used a Three 3G E160 broadband modem?
[21:44] <lighttitan> NintendoGuy02836... not sure how to get 3G modems working in 8.04 but I do know ubuntu mad a lot of wireless broadband improvements from 8.04 to 8.10. You might think about switching to 8.10
[21:44] <ethan> actionactionparsnip: yes
[21:44] <_Zeus_> i would do that
[21:44] <ethan> actionparsnip: yes
[21:45] <FireStorm> something is wrong with my windows because the uninstaller of wubi doesnt work and the wubi installer doesnt work from the site AND on the cd so does anyone know what is required to run the wubi installer/uninstaller... files are md5 checked
[21:45] <wamcvey> the question remains... how do I upgrade from an EOL'ed release.... If I set my repository to old-releases.ubuntu.com (so it can make sure it is the latest most update to date old release), then it fails when it tries to install gutsy. If I set my repository to us.archive.ubuntu.com, it fails cause it can't validate that my old release is up-to-date.
[21:45] <ASULutzy> !upgrade
[21:45] <NintendoGuy02836> lighttian; I ordered 8.10 in the post a few days ago. at least i think it was 8.10. is there any way to download just a patch from 8.04 to 8.1 instead of having to download the whole system again?
[21:45] <NintendoGuy02836> oh, thank you..
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> ethan: read that guide
[21:46] <ASULutzy> wamcvey: Hmmm, that trigger wasn't that helpful
[21:46] <ethan> actionparsnip:can you help me with my updates though?
[21:46] <ASULutzy> wamcvey: Oh actually yea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ethan: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:46] <ASULutzy> wamcvey: Which is actually what I suggested earlier, that's just update-manager -d
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ethan: use wired connection until you have your wifi setup
[21:46] <ethan> actionparsnip whcih one
[21:47] <ethan> actionparsnip: im on a wired connection right now but which one of those
[21:47] <Flannel> wamcvey: You have to stop update-manager midway through and manually edit some stuff.  Let me find you a link
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ethan: all, on the same line
[21:47] <wamcvey> ASULutzy... I guess we're not quite on the same page... I'm doing everything in that document... and it's failing
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ethan: its a terminal command
[21:48] <gardier> ActionParsnip is the difference in wifi support mainly kernel related? Only I notice Debian Lenny has much better wifi support too, though I think they're planning to remove some of it cos it's not Free enough.
[21:48] <ethan> actionparsnip: commands do i use to update without my system freezing again yes ik terminal but my whole system crashes evrytiem i update
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> gardier: ive not used true debian so couldnt comment
[21:49] <mordof> has anyone found a fix for having a wirelss NIC that the RF kill switch is software based? some way to turn it on so that the wireless card can work for intel onboard
[21:49] <wamcvey> Flannel: thanks... I'd appreciate the link... I'm getting tempted to just hack my sources.list and dist-upgrade the box, but I know that's no longer a supported upgrade procedure...
[21:49] <Zombie_Gaz> Probably a stupid question... why does my 'w' command show 4 users when I only see 3 listed?
[21:49] <gardier> ActionParsnip I keep havering between the two :)
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> ethan: what point does it hang?
[21:49] <Flannel> wamcvey: You're upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10, right?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> gardier: i use gentoo, mandriva and kubuntu
[21:49] <wamcvey> Flannel: yes
[21:50] <eli> can I create multiple x screens on one display. ex) splitting a monitor into 4 parts each with there own xserver
[21:50] <ethan> actionparsnip; what do you mean
[21:50] <cameron_> any luck finding a readme on unetbootin ?
[21:50] <wamcvey> Flannel: from feisty to gutsy... (and will likely go on to hardy as well, but first things first is getting to gutsy)
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> ethan: when does the update stop and the system hang, whats going on when it stops
[21:50] <evowill_> Cameron, on sourceforge
[21:50] <Dante123> hi all,  trying to setup wireless for dell mini-9's in my classroom.  I have the code for the shared WEP connection.  However, the tech guy didn't tell me if it is passphrase or ascii.  Anyway, I have tried it both ways and it doesn't work.  Any suggestions?  Is there something I am doing wrong.  BTW, the mini's come with 8.04 and Netmanager.  Any help is appreciated by me and the kids that want to be able to surf the net and print f
[21:50] <Roasted> Sup fellas... got a quick question... I have an IP of a Windows XP computer that wasn't "playing by the rules" at work. I need to find the host name of it. I tried ping -a <ip> but it didn't pull the host name as it normally does. I have an Ubuntu Intrepid Desktop set up at work. Is there any way in Ubuntu I can pull the Windows host name of this computer?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> ethan: is it during the downloading or the installing part
[21:50] <Flannel> wamcvey: Well, it's certainly not unsupported.  You just have to make sure you have the proper metapackages (ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-minimal, a kernel metapackage, and whatever your desktop metapackage is)  It's just not as clean (update-manager takes care of some removals after the fact, etc)
[21:51] <gardier> ActionParsnip I kinda like Mandriva 2009 was a real improvement. Gentoo is one of those Lego systems isn't? Where you put it together yourself?
[21:51] <ethan> actionparsnip: during the installing part
[21:51] <ASULutzy> cameron_: Check lubi
[21:51] <ASULutzy> cameron_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=441918
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> ethan: are your partitions healthy?
[21:51] <ethan> actionparsnip: the whole system just freezes and then when i reboot and try again it says failed
[21:52] <NintendoGuy02836> AZUlutzy - I'm on a windows right now - I don't have any way of getting on the internet on my ubuntu computer except that 3G modem, so I can't download the update on my laptop.. can't I download it from the computer I'm on now, and bring it on a USB disk to my Ubuntu laptop?
[21:52] <ethan> actionparsnip: what do you mean healthy?
[21:52] <omnydevi> NaPsTeR - all well?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> gardier: nar mandriva is a fully fledged distro, gentoo is more lego like but its fun
[21:52] <Flannel> wamcvey: did you update completely once you switched to old-releases?  I'm seeing indications that the newer update-managers know how to switch off of old-releases
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> ethan: try: sudo shutdown -rF now
[21:52] <ASULutzy> cameron_: and there's this on unetbootin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427540 tbh I haven't used unetbootin in a while, but I know it can install an iso to a partition
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> ethan: it will reboot your box and check the disk health
[21:52] <wamcvey> Flannel: ok... well, then I'll just dist-upgrade myself to gutsy... cross my fingers, and if it goes ok, will use update-manager to go to gutsy (hopefully that will cleanup what's not needed)
[21:53] <wamcvey> Flannel: Yes, I updated completly with old-releases.
[21:53] <Flannel> wamcvey: That should yeah.  Just be sure you're entirely up to date on feisty, with at least those four metapackages
[21:53] <freddy__> hey, hello to all
[21:53] <gardier> ActionParsnip what does the rF switch do? (apologies for this cli newbie)
[21:53] <wamcvey> Flannel... ok, thanks... wish me luck. I may be on later in a more frazzled state if it doesn't go well.
[21:53] <dotblank>  can I create multiple x screens on one display. ex) splitting a monitor into 4 parts each with there own xsession?
[21:54] <ethan> ok
[21:54] <Bear7809> Hey guys, little help here.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> gardier: -r == reboot
[21:54] <Dante123> hi all,  trying to setup wireless for dell mini-9's in my classroom.  I have the code for the shared WEP connection.  However, the tech guy didn't tell me if it is passphrase or ascii.  Anyway, I have tried it both ways and it doesn't work.  Any suggestions?  Is there something I am doing wrong.  BTW, the mini's come with 8.04 and Netmanager.  Any help is appreciated by me and the kids that want to be able to surf the net and print f
[21:54] <ethan> actionparsnip: when it checks the disk will it fix it if theres soemthign wrong?
[21:54] <gardier> ActionParsnip cheers
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> gardier: -F == freakout (causes fsck)
[21:54] <freddy__> hello kenkku
[21:54] <gardier> ActionParsnip thanks
[21:54] <kenkku> does anyone know any other (packaged & in intrepid repos) mail notification programs other than mail-notification that would support reading mbox over ssh/sftp?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> ethan: if its downloading the apps ok and installing locks then your drive may be bad
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> gardier: man shutdown ;)
[21:55] <kenkku> something that would actually work, mail-notification crashes with sftp
[21:55] <lzantal> Can I setup software raid after installation without erasing the disk?
[21:55] <ethan> actionparsnip: how do i fix it? and the command didnt work that you gave me
[21:55] <Bear7809> I just installed Hardy on my computer. When i get to the splash screen, the monitor turns off and recieves no signal. But ubuntu is clearly running as I hear the sounds to log in. If i press ctrl alt f1 i can get the command line to log in. I dont know whats going on. I installed it on my parents computer which runs an Nvidia card and it works fine. I dont know if its my ATI card or my monitor. Little help?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> ethan: fsck will attempt to fix them too
[21:56] <ASULutzy> ethan: Can't you just sudo touch /forcefsck
[21:56] <omnydevi> lzantal - no
[21:56] <ASULutzy> ethan: and then just reboot normally
[21:56] <omnydevi> izaltal - well, what raid array?
[21:56] <lzantal> Thank you. Thats what I thought.
[21:56] <lzantal> raid1
[21:56] <ASULutzy> Bear7809: Probably the ati card, fglrx is always fun. I would edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and force it to use vesa driver till you can figure out what's going on
[21:56] <cameron_> lubi uses gnome "zenity"
[21:56] <cameron_> i have kde
[21:57] <omnydevi> izantal - yeah, the creation of the raid will wipe all data sadly
[21:57] <ethan> asulutzy and actionparsnip; that command didnt work i tyepd it in bu tnothing happened
[21:57] <Bear7809> ASULutzy: how do you do that?
[21:57] <ASULutzy> omnydevi, lzantal: You can create a raid 1 without erasing
[21:57] <ASULutzy> lzantal: I've done it before, remotely, through ssh :)
[21:57] <lzantal> REALLY??! That would save me hours
[21:57] <funkapus> Hi.  Is this the right channel for questions about vpnc (under ubuntu, of course)?  Is another channel more appropriate?
[21:58] <lzantal> could you give me some pointers?
[21:58] <omnydevi> asul - wow, thanks for correcting me, i would look into that...if i needed a raid1, heh
[21:58] <niklaus> My LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" doesn't work with g++. It gives me font problems , some messages in square boxes. How do i fix it ?
[21:58] <ASULutzy> lzantal: It's not exactly easy to do, but it is definitely possible. What you will have to do is first of course make the partitions match, and then copy over all of the original drive to the new, and then basically trick mdadm into fixing a "broken" array... I found a decent howto on it, and actually, I may have MADE a howto on the forums somewhere... Let me google
[21:58] <Bear7809> ASULutzy: how do i edit xorg to use the Vesa drivers over anything else?
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> ethan: you could check it from recovery console, the partitions need to be unmounted
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> ethan: or livecd
[21:59] <lzantal> ASULutzy: thanks a ton.
[21:59] <ASULutzy> Bear7809: You'll have to add a line that says driver "vesa" under screen I think... But not 100%, you should probably ask that to the channel or just do a quick google search
[21:59] <omnydevi> Bear - you vi the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the driver being used and replace it with VESA
[21:59] <ethan> actionparsnip: im running both ubuntu and windows xp would the best bet be to uninstall ubuntu and then reinstall windows and do everything from sratch?
[21:59] <omnydevi> you will get a low screen resolution most likely, but it will come up
[22:00] <Bear7809> omnydevi: what would i put in the command line? im not exactly the best with it.
[22:00] <kaje> I need to setup a Single Sign On configuration for about 50 ubuntu boxes. I've read the SingleSignOn page on the Ubuntu docs, but I'm a little confused regarding the roles that Kerberos and LDAP play. Should I be using one or the other or both in combination?
[22:00] <omnydevi> lzantal - sorry for lying to you, i never thought to do it that way before
[22:00] <knoppix> hi
[22:00] <niklaus> Will changing LC_ALL="C" from LC_ALL="en_US.utf-8" cause any problems ?
[22:00] <omnydevi> Bear - you have any kind of GUI?
[22:00] <ethan> actionparsnip: wipe my whole os and redo it from sratch
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> ethan: no need, just need to check the partition is ok, no need to format
[22:00] <NintendoGuy02836> Has anyone got a Three 3G modem working on 8.04? I can't figure out how to set it up.
[22:00] <Bear7809> omnydevi: no, none, monitor gets no signal. Goes to standby. I can access console and log in by pressing ctrl alt f1. monitor comes back on.
[22:01] <Dante123> hi all,  trying to setup wireless for dell mini-9's in my classroom.  I have the code for the shared WEP connection.  However, the tech guy didn't tell me if it is passphrase or ascii.  Anyway, I have tried it both ways and it doesn't work.  Any suggestions?  Is there something I am doing wrong.  BTW, the mini's come with 8.04 and Netmanager.  Any help is appreciated by me and the kids that want to be able to surf the net and print f
[22:01] <lzantal> omnydevi: I did not know it. I just thought I should ask.
[22:01] <Dante123> I don't understand open vs. shared keys?  And if he means 128 bit WEP passphrase or ascii (assuming it isn't hex because the # symbol is used)
[22:01] <omnydevi> Bear - best way is to "sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[22:01] <ethan> actionparsnip: i need help i need to fix ubuntu this is liek the fourth time iv instaleld it on here because i keep getting problems
[22:01] <ASULutzy> lzantal: this: http://www.howtoforge.com/software-raid1-grub-boot-debian-etch It's a little verbose... I made one that I thought was better somewhere on the ubuntu forums which I can try and dig up
[22:01] <ASULutzy> lzantal: But that should work
[22:01] <omnydevi> lzantal - i just hate giving false information :(
[22:01] <omnydevi> thanks again ASIL
[22:01] <omnydevi> ASUL, oops
[22:01] <Matisse> I have changed the UUID in /boot/grub/menu.lst  and in /etc/fstab  and now my system boots with an ash shell as result
[22:01] <omnydevi> Bear - what kinda graphics card you have?
[22:02] <Bear7809> omnydevi: ATI All-in Wonder 9600 series.
[22:02] <lzantal> ASULutzy: thank you soo much. what is your user name on the forum? I could do the search.
[22:02] <ASULutzy> omnydevi: Well, you didn't really give bad info... There isn't really a simple or normal way to create a RAID1 without destroying the partitions of both disks... This way works, but what you're basically doing is tricking mdadm into rebuilding a broken array
[22:02] <ASULutzy> ASULutzy on the forums as well,
[22:02] <omnydevi> ASUL yeah, that owns man :D
[22:02] <Matisse> I've changed the UUID using bklid or sth. like supposed when booting ends with fsck error 80
[22:02] <Bear7809> omnydevi: editing it to just use VESA is fairly easy after that?
[22:02] <omnydevi> Bear - find your graphics driver and replcae it with VESA
[22:02] <ASULutzy> I think I made a howto anyway :) I get confused sometimes, if you can't find it, that howtoforge article will definitely work
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> ethan: then reinstall, partition xp to not use the whole disk and leave unpartitioned space, ubuntu will then be able to use it and the dual boot will be handled for you
[22:03] <omnydevi> Bear - if you never used VI before...it isn't as easy as it sounds
[22:03] <Bear7809> omnydevi: im afraid I have not.
[22:03] <lzantal> ASULutzy: thank you soo much. You saved me hours of backup.(which i will do anyway) I am just happy to learn something new again
[22:03] <omnydevi> Bear - use only the arrow keys to navigate, just use arrow down till you see your graphics card
[22:03] <Matisse> WHAT can I do now ? I dont even see the root partion, only a certain one, which I used for data storage
[22:04] <omnydevi> Bear - vi can make a mess out of things fast if ya dont know what you are doing. (yes...i am speaking from experience)
[22:04] <Matisse> Help
[22:04] <Bear7809> omnydevi: so get to the graphics part, then replace whatever driver is there with just the word VESA?
[22:04] <ASULutzy> lzantal: No problem, it's a fun task
[22:04] <ASULutzy> lzantal: heh, it's even more fun when you do the entire thing remotely via ssh... that first reboot command... You have to be very brave to issue :P
[22:04] <omnydevi> Bear - yes. Hit A to type. Use DEL to delete the card driver name starting with the first letter
[22:05] <omnydevi> Bear - then left arrow, press "a" and type VESA, it should be in double quotes. Hit ESC and press ":w" without quotes. that saves it. then hit ":q" without quotes, that exits
[22:05] <__MAV> Hello All!
[22:05] <aberratic> why when i zoom in in nautilus my custom svg icons dont amplify?
[22:05] <omnydevi> Bear - lastly, startx
[22:06] <Bear7809>  omnydevi: VESA should be "VESA" like that?
[22:06] <breta> Does anybody know about any ubuntu ver. using kernel with "CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=y"
[22:06] <omnydevi> Bear - Yessir!
[22:06] <breta> ?
[22:06] <RediXe> Is there a way to get packages installed on a machine that can't see the outside world? I have my desktop that can access the machine and the outside world and would like to install some packages on the machine that can't see outside using apt-get
[22:06] <omnydevi> ESC, :w, :q, startx
[22:06] <Bear7809> omnydevi: do i just type w or :w?
[22:06] <omnydevi> :w
[22:07] <omnydevi> oo
[22:07] <NintendoGuy02836> Has anyone got a Three 3G modem working on 8.04? I can't figure out how to set it up at all.. I really need help with this, doesn't anyone know???
[22:07] <vantrax> breta, why would you want to enable that on anything but a bladeserver
[22:07] <__MAV> I would like to say that you guys the developers of Ubuntu are making the great job because ubuntu is the very best of Linux distributions I've seen so far!
[22:07] <Matisse> Anyone
[22:07] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: you need to download the ubuntu .deb package files
[22:07] <omnydevi> after you : you just need w
[22:07] <Matisse> How can I mount the missing partitions ?
[22:07] <Bear7809> omnydevi: startx is just a command i can imput without anything extra?
[22:07] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: make sure you check the dependencies and satisfy those also
[22:07] <omnydevi> i need to install ubuntu on a esx server here so i can go through this stuff
[22:07] <omnydevi> Bear - startx is what you use when you are back in terminal
[22:08] <ASULutzy> lzantal: I found it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778907 but reading it, maybe the howtoforge is just better :) I should update the post... Oh well
[22:08] <omnydevi> that should restart the xserver
[22:08] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: what are you trying to install?
[22:08] <Bear7809> omnydevi: finally just reboot?
[22:08] <RediXe> HacKBoX_: sun-java-jre
[22:08] <omnydevi> Bear - no need to reboot, just startx when back in terminal
[22:08] <Bear7809> alright
[22:08] <__MAV> What program can I use to backup my Ubuntu installation (including partintioning) and burn it to DVD so later I can boot from that DVD and restore the system ?
[22:08] <Bear7809> here i go wish me luck, i'll be back if it messed up haha.
[22:08] <omnydevi> Bear - this is ubuntu, no need to restart the whole cpu after every change. i love that
[22:09] <dotblank> Can I spit a widescrren monitor into sepperate xscreens?
[22:09] <linxeh> vantrax: you mightwant that on a superdome, or on any virtualised installation...
[22:09] <omnydevi> brb, boss is calling me
[22:09] <__MAV> dotblank: try Xepyr
[22:09] <RediXe> HacKBoX_: Trying to install Openfire IM server on an ubuntu server but it needs java installed   .. I could have sword it wanted a sun-java6-dev or something but didn't see that in the repo
[22:10] <__MAV> dotblank: executing "Xepyr :2" will give you 2-nd X screen
[22:10] <linxeh> RediXe: sun-java6-jre
[22:10] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: What does your other computer run?
[22:10] <ASULutzy> lzantal: If you do go off my guide, don't raid your swap, I actually didn't do that, and most people will recommend that you don't, but overall the post is helpful
[22:10] <linxeh> RediXe: or sun-java6-jdk
[22:10] <RediXe> HacKBoX_: this machine is on xubuntu 8.04 and server is ubuntu server 8.04
[22:10] <Matisse> I have changed the UUID in /boot/grub/menu.lst  and in /etc/fstab  and now my system boots with an ash shell as result I've changed the UUID using bklid or sth. like supposed when booting ends with fsck error 80. WHAT can I do now ? I dont even see the root partion, only a certain one, which I used for data storage. How can I mount the missing partitions ?
[22:11] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: ok. are they on a network?
[22:11] <RediXe> linxeh: Is there not a java dev anywhere?
[22:11] <dotblank> says command can't be found
[22:11] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/sun-java6-jre take a look at that
[22:11] <cameron_> i think why unetbootin doesnt work
[22:11] <__MAV> What program can I use to backup my Ubuntu installation (including partitioning) and burn it to DVD so later I can boot from that DVD and restore the system ?
[22:11] <cameron_> it doesnt work with lilo
[22:11] <cameron_> only grub
[22:11] <RediXe> HacKBoX_: I am ssh'd into the server atm - not sure why but it can't access the outside world and I'm not too worried about. I'll just scp the deb file over and manually do it
[22:11] <linxeh> RediXe: if there was you wouldnt want it. the jdk one is the dev kit for compiling
[22:12] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/sun-java6-jre take a look at that
[22:12] <omnydevi> Bear - you up and running?
[22:12] <RediXe> linxeh: I know, I just have this memory of when I installed this on my home machine that I used a -dev file is all. Can't access that machine to double check until I go home for the day.
[22:13] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: at the top you can navigate the dependencies and at the bottom you can download the files
[22:13] <funkapus> anyone able to get vpnc working recently?  i had it working successfully a few weeks ago, but not now (since i moved off networkmanager to /etc/network/interfaces; tried going back to networkmanager too, with no joy).  i may need to install that other OS if i can't get vpnc to work sometime soon, which i would really hate.
[22:13] <RediXe> HacKBoX_: thx :)
[22:13] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: No Problem; Thank the community
[22:13] <Matisse> __MAV, you could make a installed packages list and also put all personal data into a tarball, but I wouldnt make a DVD to but from. To much work. Just reinstalling with internet connection would be better
[22:14] <Matisse> __MAV, (reinstalling using that package list)
[22:15] <ozzloy> "we" == me and jauricchio
[22:15] <ozzloy> woops, wrong window
[22:15] <__MAV> Matisse: It would be great just to copy partition into place
[22:16] <RediXe> HacKBoX_: I assume these packages will run on 64bit machines?
[22:16] <kdogg> !usbdev
[22:16] <ryanakca> I have two encrypted partitions (/home and swap) in my crypttab that I mount/decrypt every boot, both have the same passphrase... Is there a way to make it so that I only have to type in my passphrase once?
[22:16] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: you didn't say that one second
[22:16] <RediXe> HacKBoX_: Yeah I just realized I forgot to mention that part :P
[22:16] <xomp> Hello, just installed Hardy on my HP Pavilion ze4300 laptop and even though it says "Connected to Wired network connection" it's not pulling an IP Address from my router and I can't get on the internet. Can someone please help me?
[22:17] <Matisse> actually copying /home, /etc and maybe /usr and reinstalling could do that, but I'm not sure if there are some more configuration files f.e. in /var or others
[22:17] <ASULutzy> __MAV: You could just create a tarball of /, you could also make an image of the entire disk using dd, there are a couple of options, though the tarball one sounds more right
[22:17] <kdogg> anyone know if a usb device's usbdev id changes if reconnecting it?
[22:17] <omnydevi> xomp - you have the machine there handy?
[22:17] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/amd64/sun-java6-jre
[22:17] <RediXe> HacKBoX_: I also, moved over to the sun-java6-sdk and saw the AMD64 so downloading that now. As for depends not so sure
[22:17] <xomp> omnydevi, yes, it's in my lap :-)
[22:18] <omnydevi> xomp - you try any ifconfig commands?
[22:18] <gerar> How do to install java on my computer?
[22:18] <xomp> omnydevi, no, but I just checked what kind of NIC it has in it and it says "National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller.
[22:18] <omnydevi> xomp - i am not the best network guy out there by any means, i had this just happen once and all i had to do was ifconfig eth0 down and ifconfig eth0 up
[22:19] <omnydevi> xomp - well, sudo ifconfig eth0 down and sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[22:19] <__MAV> ASULutzy: That sounds great, thanks!
[22:19] <ASULutzy> __MAV: Yea, you could just do.... tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc exclude=/lost+found exclude=/backup.tgz exclude=/mnt exclude=/media exclude=/sys
[22:19] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: you can check this out. http://linuxappfinder.com/package/sun-java6-jre
[22:19] <xomp> omnydevi, ok, I'm doing that now
[22:19] <ASULutzy> __MAV: And to restore you could just do tar xvpfz backup.tgz -C /
[22:19] <lacita> I can't get the sound working on my Lenovo 3000 Y410. I have tried updating to the latest drivers, and altering the alsa_base file... It just won't work...
[22:20] <omnydevi> xomp - coo, if that does not work, I will have to wait till i get home. my 8.10 worked great oob, so i didnt have to tinker with a lot of things, not even sure what it looks like
[22:20] <Accidus> I just wanted to say thanks for anyone who assisted me in the past few days with my connection. Now I'm almost 100% sure the problem is with the ISP, since when I connect my laptop to the office wire, everything runs smoothly. Now the only thing left to do is fix the issue with the ISP and the hibernation issue for ubuntu
[22:21] <ASULutzy> __MAV: Er, syntax, cd / && tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc exclude=/lost+found exclude=/backup.tgz exclude=/mnt exclude=/media exclude=/sys /
[22:21] <qcjn2> hi, can i make that Ubuntu start right away, without asking a password
[22:22] <marabout> Jack_Sparrow: you still here?
[22:22] <lacita> qcjn2, yes
[22:22] <theatrustop> qcjn2, yes you can set it to auto-login
[22:22] <theatrustop> qcjn2, on the login preferences
[22:22] <qcjn2> in system, administtration ?
[22:22] <lacita> qcjn2, system > admin > login window
[22:22] <__MAV> ASULutzy: thank, you I think I'll give it a try
[22:23] <qcjn2> ok
[22:23] <evowill_> qcjnt, system > administration > login window > Security tab
[22:23] <lacita> I can't get the sound working on my Lenovo 3000 Y410. I have tried updating to the latest drivers, and altering the alsa_base file... It just won't work...
[22:24] <qcjn2> Activate automatic connexion
[22:24] <ryanakca> I have two encrypted partitions (LUKS, /home and swap) in my crypttab that I mount/decrypt every boot, both have the same passphrase... Is there a way to make it so that I only have to type in my passphrase once?
[22:24] <qcjn2> Checked & choosed the user, right ? thanks a lot
[22:25] <HacKBoX_> RediXe: I PM'd you
[22:25] <rostaman> Is this a good channel to ask Thunderbird questions in?
[22:26] <marabout> need help trying to finish Hardy. install typed "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"  now hoping to finish the process
[22:27] <user_> rostaman: just try.. ;-)
[22:28] <rostaman> no thanks, user_ ;-)
[22:29] <qcjn2> by the way, i was using hotkeyp, under window, that was really great. Is there something similar for Ubuntu ? i've read tha we could do more, in term of key shortcut with KDE ?
[22:29] <Bear7809> omnydevi: hey omny you in here?
[22:30] <omnydevi> Bear - yessir!
[22:30] <Bear7809> omnydevi: so i put in the command sudo vi /etc/x11/xorg.cong
[22:31] <Bear7809> omnydevi: i just get that in quotes at the bottom with [NEW DIRECTORY] right beside it
[22:31] <Canaen> Does anyone know how to change the soundclip Ubuntu plays on startup
[22:31] <Canaen> ?
[22:31] <Bear7809> omnydevi: then nothing, its not like i can do anything, and moving the arrow keys shows me no real progression.
[22:31] <omnydevi> Bear - one sec, let me find an example mate. can you see a web page?
[22:31] <Bear7809> yeah
[22:31] <omnydevi> sweet, one sec
[22:32] <Bear7809> omnydevi: do you mean in sudo vi?
[22:32] <marabout> does anyone know how to boot into ubuntu after doing get-update in terminal
[22:32] <omnydevi> Bear - go here http://www.linuxcompatible.org/help_with_xorg.conf_t31963.html
[22:32] <crdlb> Canaen: system > preferences > sound > sounds ?
[22:32] <user_> Canaen: system, preferences, sound
[22:32] <Bear7809> omnydevi: because if thats the case i just see a bunc of blue ~ and at the bottom is the directory you speak of. i can put in some commands but thats it.
[22:33] <omnydevi> Bear - yes, we have to sudo vi, i just do the wrong thing and right when i open a terminal the first thing i do is sudo su
[22:33] <marabout> i was installing from the hardy alternate iso and am stuck here not knowing what to do
[22:33] <omnydevi> bear - on that page, find where it says Section "Device"
[22:34] <omnydevi> bear - and Identifier  "Videocard0"
[22:34] <omnydevi> Bear - you need to sudo vi yours to have the next line say DRIVER "VESA"
[22:34] <Bear7809> thats why...you told me /etc/x11/xorg.conG i guess you missed the F
[22:35] <tritium> Bear7809: that's what tab-completion is handy for
[22:35] <Bear7809> omnydevi: that or i copied it wrong.
[22:36] <zamba> i need something to extract contacts and messages from a sony ericsson p1i
[22:36] <zamba> does anyone know if such a tool exists?
[22:36] <Canaen> thank you!
[22:37] <curt> hi everyone
[22:38] <curt> i have 2 computers being used by a group of 5 family members. could someone point me to an article on how to set up the two computers so that the users home directory will follow them between computers?
[22:40] <user_> curt: do you already have a network connection between the two comps?
[22:40] <curt> yes
[22:40] <woody86> can anyone give me a hand? When I try to upgrade to jaunty update-manager gives me this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/100624/
[22:41] <simulation> can you suggest any proxy server app for ubuntu ?
[22:41] <throwt> squid is one
[22:41] <curt> user_: yes
[22:42] <simulation> umm ok thanx throwt
[22:43] <rustenguin> hello
[22:43] <rustenguin> i have a question about security
[22:43] <user_> curt: ok
[22:43] <mamat_> hi, anyone know how i can disable bzr-notify automatic-useless applet?
[22:43] <genii> rustenguin: Ask away
[22:43] <Alexis> Why is the god damn python channel locked to registered nicks :@
[22:44] <thiebaude> !language
[22:44] <rustenguin> does phishing exist in gnu / linux?
[22:44] <genii> Alexis: Probably to prevent bots
[22:44] <mamat_> Alexis: quite annoying... especially when auto-register doesn't work anymore
[22:44] <FireStorm> rustenguin yes you can still be fooled to enter your bank information to a fake site
[22:45] <Zackfett> lol
[22:45] <Zackfett> true
[22:45] <rustenguin> and how can you avoid it
[22:45] <Alexis> mamat_: LAME!
[22:45] <rustenguin> is it easier
[22:45] <rustenguin> ?
[22:45] <Zackfett> ALWAYS view the source first
[22:45] <Zackfett> just to be safe
[22:45] <lacita> Ok, so now I have to suspend my machine to get the audio working.    I'm trying to set up my new wireless network card and am having some trouble. The model is WMP300N by Linksys. I installed ndiswrapper and set it up according to the guide posted here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3973. It looks like it installed fine but I don't see the option to use it. Anyone have any ideas?
[22:47] <ttuttle> Hey.  I just tried to install the restricted extras, and it hung unpacking java.  I ran top, and nothing was happening, so I logged out and back in.  Now it says there's another package manager running, except there isn't.  How do I reset the lock?
[22:47] <ikonia> ttuttle: look at the lock file it's complaining about
[22:48] <stroyan> rustenguin: Look at the "Edit->Preferences" dialog and the "Security" tab in firefox 3.
[22:48] <rustenguin> ok
[22:48] <klenz> what do i need to format an xternal hdd to ntfs?? in gparted the ntfs option is greyed out??
[22:48] <ttuttle> ikonia: It says "Unable to get exclusive lock", that's all.
[22:48] <ttuttle> ikonia: Should I try apt-get?
[22:48] <lacita> klenz: get a gpated live CD.
[22:48] <eli> Zackfett: I have a dvd burner
[22:48] <ikonia> ttuttle: it still won't be able to get the lock
[22:48] <user_> curt: ubuntu on both computers?
[22:48] <eli> and it works in any other burning software
[22:48] <Zackfett> does your drive say dvd rw
[22:48] <klenz> lacita. ok
[22:49] <curt> user_: yes
[22:49] <rustenguin> i did activate the choice to avoid phishing
[22:49] <nonix4> Is there any reasonable way for figuring out which voltages lm-sensors *should* be reporting for your motherboard?
[22:49] <ikonia> ttuttle: a.) use ps -ef to look for a package manager running b.) look at /var/dpkg/lock for a file
[22:49] <duaneb> holy
[22:49] <duaneb> 1400 users in #ubuntu?
[22:49] <lacita> all lagging
[22:49] <Zackfett> no
[22:49] <Zackfett> 1399
[22:49] <lacita> ll
[22:49] <Zackfett> :D
[22:49] <eli> CD-RW/DVD±RW Drive
[22:49] <lacita> lol
[22:49] <omnydevi> Bear - you there?
[22:49] <eli> its the software or somthing
[22:50] <rustenguin> im not ubuntu user, sorry
[22:50] <eli> I have burned dvds before
[22:50] <eli> Brasero won't let me press the burn button
[22:50] <eli> a data disk with dvd works
[22:50] <eli> but video does not
[22:50] <tkach> I can't hear any sound. I just reinstalled 8.04 and no luck. I checked every single volume level...again, no dice. Is this most likely a hardware problem, what else can I try. (note: this is an old dell computer with a basic sound blaster card)
[22:51] <ttuttle> Damn, apt gets pissy when it decides to not do anything and I interrupt it not doing anything.
[22:51] <user_> curt: this might be a start, checked the first two entries, looks reasonable to me. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=connect+two+ubuntu+linux+home+network+home+shares&start=10&sa=N
[22:51] <lzantal> ASULutzy: Thank yo a bunch. It is working.Now I just have to wait to copy everything over
[22:51] <Zackfett> eli, have you tried burning it on windows?
[22:51] <ttuttle> Ah, killall -9 dpkg.
[22:52] <zicho> Ax-Ax, hej hej
[22:52] <eli> Zackfett I have burned DVDs onthis machine before it works
[22:52] <Ax-Ax> vad festligt
[22:52] <eli> in linux
[22:52] <eli> brasero is having some kind of glitch cause i can't even output to an image file
[22:53] <Zackfett> eli try using the add and remove program thing to get a new disk burner
[22:53] <Zackfett> im kind of a newb at this but im trying to help as best i can]
[22:54] <eli> Zackfett: that would be ignoring the problem, there must be why brasero won't burn it, brasero works with any other type of project
[22:54] <Turno1> so what are the odds that we'll get a new version of the nvidia driver before 9.04?
[22:54] <ttuttle> Hi.  Where do I get libdvdcss?
[22:54] <exodus_ms> apt-get
[22:55] <ttuttle> It says it has no installation candidate?
[22:55] <Zackfett> eli: thats what i mean, im trying to help but i cant help you with fixing it because i dont use brasero because i dont have a burner
[22:55] <exodus_ms> !restricted
[22:55] <rww> ttuttle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[22:55] <eth01> how can i install adium?
[22:55] <exodus_ms> !codecs
[22:55] <rww> ttuttle: 1) install libdvdread3, 2) run the script it tells you on that page
[22:55] <ttuttle> rww: Thanks.
[22:55] <eli> Zackfett: well I really looked forward to an easy way to make dvds in linux
[22:55] <rww> eth01: Adium is only for Mac OS X. It's based off Pidgin, though, so you might want to try that.
[22:56] <Delvien> Having an issue with USB's mounting very slowly. anyone experience the same?
[22:56] <curt> hi all