[00:00] <leftyfb> VjdfMQ: boot from a live cd/usb and test
[00:00] <VjdfMQ> Already
[00:00] <leftyfb> Already what?
[00:00] <VjdfMQ> In Live it works like acharm
[00:00] <VjdfMQ> Tried Ubuntu 17.04
[00:00] <VjdfMQ> oh
[00:00] <VjdfMQ> 16.04 *
[00:01] <Xionaba> hi im an idiot! how do you through terminal install and run the NES emulator fceux ?
[00:01] <VjdfMQ> I think it caused some kernel update
[00:01] <VjdfMQ> A bug or something
[00:02] <VjdfMQ> So, now only multitouch works
[00:02] <leftyfb> Xionaba: just like any other package in ubuntu. You can also do it through the "Software" application
[00:02] <VjdfMQ> Without trackball and left, right, middle buttons
[00:03] <Xionaba> leftyfb: i typed "sudo apt-get install fceux", got an exe file, no idea how to open
[00:03] <Xionaba> leftyfb: linux based OS but not ubuntu
[00:04] <leftyfb> Xionaba: Only ubuntu is supported here
[00:04] <VjdfMQ> So, leftyfb Do you have an idea what could it be ?
[00:05] <leftyfb> VjdfMQ: what version of ubuntu?
[00:05] <Xionaba> leftyfb: ah ty
[00:05] <VjdfMQ> Ubuntu 16.04
[00:05] <leftyfb> VjdfMQ: what kernel are you running
[00:05] <VjdfMQ> 4.13.0-38
[00:05] <VjdfMQ> generic
[00:06] <leftyfb> that's the latest ... everything should be running fine
[00:06] <VjdfMQ> That's a strange.
[00:06] <VjdfMQ> It started after last update.
[00:08] <akem> nacc, yep, i missread, no PGP needed, i was able to report the bug.
[00:08] <leftyfb> VjdfMQ: 4.13.0-38 came out last month
[00:08] <VjdfMQ> I've updated day ago
[00:09] <VjdfMQ> Also dmesg gives:  TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 1 bytes away.
[00:14] <yohanna> Hello!!!
[00:14] <yohanna> Anyone here??
[00:15] <bazhang> ubuntu support issue yohanna ?
[00:16] <blinder> Good evening I made a assembled a computer and installed ubuntu in it and now I have the "low graphics memory" so I tried to look for it online and I do not have wired connection and I cannot join wifi from cli
[00:16] <volty> hi, I cloned my root to ssd, then grub-update (from another partition), have two versions of the same OS. I had to manually edit UUID = ... in the grub menu, but I'm finally inside. What do I have to do now for grub to fix that?
[00:22] <GautamS> How am I supossed to switch to GNOME in the login screen?
[00:23] <GautamS> Back in the older versions you could select the shell you wanted to afaik
[00:23] <GautamS> The gear icon only shows Ubuntu and Ubuntu Xorg, even though I installed gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[00:27] <SlidingHorn> VjdfMQ, You say this happened "maybe" after an update.  What exactly did you update when this started occurring
[00:28] <blinder> Any have ideas about version 2.02 grub in ubuntu
[00:28] <VjdfMQ> Only sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade was done
[00:29] <SlidingHorn> blinder, what is your question?  Details and specificity is important.
[00:29] <blinder> main question is this:Good evening I made a assembled a computer and installed ubuntu in it and now I have the "low graphics memory" so I tried to look for it online and I do not have wired connection and I cannot join wifi from cli
[00:30] <blinder> i came online this afternoon and got a few sugestions but none of them seem to be working at this time
[00:30] <GautamS> hello
[00:30] <GautamS> how do I switch to GNOME?
[00:30] <SlidingHorn> VjdfMQ, you can see what was updated in /var/log/apt/term.log
[00:30] <blinder> press escape or escape during boot time
[00:30] <blinder> u can go to GNU grub
[00:30] <akem_> GautamS, you should have Gnome by default, 17.10?
[00:30] <compdoc> blinder, in the bios you can add more memory to onboard video, if thats what you have. give it as much as you can
[00:31] <blinder> i have a gpu in this computer too
[00:31] <blinder> but i think its the drivers
[00:31] <compdoc> do you use both?
[00:31] <blinder> can u please give me the details on the driver solution
[00:31] <blinder> i mean bios solution
[00:31] <VjdfMQ> SlidingHorn: http://termbin.com/u7x9
[00:32] <GautamS> akem_: Oh
[00:32] <compdoc> do you use both video ports? two monitors?
[00:32] <GautamS> I mean the default GNOME shell
[00:32] <bazhang> blinder please dont use the enter key as punctuation
[00:32] <GautamS> Like without the sidebar and stuff
[00:32] <blinder> sorry
[00:32] <akem_> GautamS, What Ubuntu version?
[00:33] <SlidingHorn> VjdfMQ, and after which of these updates did your problem occur?
[00:34] <VjdfMQ> This one update
[00:34] <VjdfMQ> It was done in day ago
[00:34] <VjdfMQ> So after a some time mouse was just stopping work and I've rebooted
[00:35] <VjdfMQ> So, after reboot mouse stopped to work completely
[00:35] <akem_> GautamS, with Gnome there's still a side bar it's the dock, but you can put it to the bottom or whatever.
[00:35] <VjdfMQ> After modprobe -r psmouse; modprobe psmouse; it works, but only multi touch
[00:35] <VjdfMQ> Buttons and Trackball don't work
[00:35] <GautamS> akem_: Ubuntu 17.10
[00:37] <akem_> GautamS, then you got Gnome already. Top bar with activities and tray on the right + side dock with app icons.
[00:37] <GautamS> akem_: Oh. I see
[00:37] <GautamS> thanks
[00:37] <akem_> Np.
[00:37] <GautamS> What is something that uses less resources than GNOME?
[00:38] <GautamS> My laptop seems to be overheating rn
[00:38] <akem_> GautamS, Possibly XFCE.
[00:40] <GautamS> Hm. I just installed mate-desktop, but I still don't seem to be getting it on the settings bar?
[00:40] <GautamS> akem_: Oh.
[00:40] <GautamS> I should look into XFCE
[00:40] <SlidingHorn> !desktop | GautamS lxde & xfce would be smaller - the others listed are just window managers, not full DEs
[00:40] <GautamS> s/settings bar/settings icon on login screen
[00:40] <GautamS> hm thanks
[00:48] <rud0lf> i forgot.. how do i get the system log that appears on screen when SPLASH is disabled?
[00:49] <rud0lf> something with journalctl i think
[00:49] <rud0lf> oh
[00:49] <rud0lf> just it, nvm
[00:58] <GautamS> I installed Xubuntu-desktop
[00:58] <GautamS> How do I switch to Xubuntu?
[01:00] <akik> , å~
[01:00] <GautamS> Hmm
[01:01] <GautamS> I can't seem to select Xubuntu/XFCE from the login screen?
[01:07] <BillD73> GautamS: it should be on the top bar away from the login dialog
[01:08] <rud0lf> when i setquota -g group_name, is it collective quota for entire group or per each user on group?
[01:08] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[01:08] <OnkelTem> I don't get how to use Alt Gr key to enter additional charactrers
[01:08] <OnkelTem> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey
[01:08] <OnkelTem> AltGr + 1 should produce small 1
[01:08] <OnkelTem> KDE here
[01:10] <OnkelTem> Actually, nothing for that article works
[01:10] <OnkelTem> from*
[01:12] <pragmaticenigma> OnkelTem, If you are on KDE, take a look here: https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey
[01:13] <OnkelTem> pragmaticenigma: yeah, thank, I was there. And so I've configured compose key to be "Right Win"
[01:14] <OnkelTem> But yet I don't know how to enter characters from the third level
[01:14] <OnkelTem> |¹²³€½¾{[]}\¸
[01:14] <gogeta> OnkelTem, ???
[01:14] <gogeta> fn key
[01:14] <lapion> OnkelTem, you should set the keyboard to one where there is a third level
[01:15] <gogeta> that to
[01:15] <OnkelTem> gogeta: what fn key? I don't have any
[01:15] <gogeta> OnkelTem, do you mean media keys
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> rud0lf, Yes, group quota sets the collective group's limit of filespace
[01:15] <OnkelTem> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey - gogeta look
[01:15] <OnkelTem> in the middle there are examples
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> rud0lf, this looks like a good article to read up on https://www.linuxnix.com/how-to-linux-group-disk-quota-implementation/
[01:15] <lapion> OnkelTem, fn key is irrelevant for you purposes
[01:16] <lapion> *your
[01:16] <OnkelTem> like `123456789-=   ---- first level. Then the second. And the third and 4th
[01:16] <gogeta> dunno what he means by third level
[01:16] <lapion> he means things like the Euro on 5 or 3
[01:17] <OnkelTem> lapion: I think I selected just regular keyboard
[01:17] <OnkelTem> lapion: that too. I mean... the Layout advanced settings tab in KDE is a total mess
[01:18] <lapion> OnkelTem, you should select a keyboard where there is a a third level and that third level contains the wanted character
[01:18] <gogeta> OnkelTem, yea slecting non us would help if thats what your talking about
[01:19] <lapion> OnkelTem, slect a us-international or something
[01:19] <OnkelTem> lapion: "Generic | Generic 101-key PC" is my selection
[01:19] <OnkelTem> ops, that's a model
[01:19] <OnkelTem> "us" is my selection yeah
[01:20] <gogeta> OnkelTem, us has no third level so its not mapped for it
[01:20] <OnkelTem> gogeta: why? Then what Layout would have them eh?
[01:20] <OnkelTem> which*
[01:21] <OnkelTem> I think they are standard
[01:21] <OnkelTem> And the question is how to select Third level
[01:22] <lapion> OnkelTem, well English (US) English ( International AltGr dead keys)
[01:22] <lapion> OnkelTem, regular us keyboard selection has no third level
[01:22] <pragmaticenigma> OnkelTem, Keyboards themselves only have so many addresses that refer the keys pressed. Through the use of modify keys like shift, you get another set. Those are what are programmed into the driver. If you select US, there are only 2 levels per key.
[01:23] <lapion> OnkelTem, you need to select us-international
[01:23] <OnkelTem> lapion: thanks, seeking for it now... in the Variants list
[01:23] <gogeta> OnkelTem, this might help to https://fsymbols.com/keyboard/linux/choosers/
[01:26] <OnkelTem> yahoooo
[01:26] <lapion> OnkelTem, no brand names please..
[01:26] <lapion> :-P
[01:26] <gogeta> lol
[01:26] <OnkelTem> lapion: thanks! I got it. That variant works perfectly
[01:27] <gogeta> had a felling it was not mapped
[01:27] <OnkelTem> €
[01:27] <lapion> OnkelTem, you had the wrong keyboard map set..
[01:28] <OnkelTem> ã
[01:28] <OnkelTem> é
[01:28] <OnkelTem> Sorry
[01:28] <OnkelTem> lapion: yep
[01:29] <lapion> now OnkelTem if you type ' followed by e you should get the same é
[01:30] <lapion> and you can also try " followed by a
[01:31] <yates_home> what does ubuntu use for its open-source video driver for nvidia cards? nouveau?
[01:31] <gogeta> yates_home, yes
[01:32] <OnkelTem> gogeta: how to get the circumflex accent?
[01:32] <lapion> anyone know how to find what package a binary file with an incorrect filename belongs to ?
[01:32] <yates_home> gogeta: thanks
[01:32] <OnkelTem> which looks like a roof
[01:32] <lapion> OnkelTem, do you mean accent to the left or right ?
[01:32] <OnkelTem> I stupid, like this: ^
[01:32] <yates_home> have there been any known, recent issues (say, the past year) in which the nouveaux driver would hang the system?
[01:32] <lapion> thats a ^ and a character
[01:33] <yates_home> with certain nvidia cards (e.g., the GTX 660)?
[01:33] <OnkelTem> â
[01:33] <OnkelTem> lapion: +
[01:33] <gogeta> yates_home, dont see why it would
[01:33] <gogeta> 660 is a pretty old card
[01:33] <yates_home> bugs
[01:34] <Bashing-om> yates_home: A couple of factorts to consider, the rlse, the kernel version .. and how new the card is . (14.04 - GT710 had no support- for instance )
[01:34] <lapion> yates_home, probably has something to do with certain older cards and modeset maybe you are trying ubuntu on a apple ?
[01:35] <lapion> OnkelTem, no problem
[01:36] <yates_home> no, it was fedora on a pc with the 660.
[01:36] <yates_home> fedora 27
[01:36] <gogeta> thers your issue lol
[01:36] <gogeta> fedora
[01:36] <yates_home> but since nouveaux spans distros, i thought i ask here in addition to #fedora
[01:37] <gogeta> fedora is not know for well being not buggy as f
[01:38] <lapion> please no mentioning of the F word in here there might be fanbois in here
[01:39] <yates_home> it's nouveaux, not the distro. at least that's my suspicion
[01:39] <Vectic> fedora?
[01:39] <gogeta> yates_home, it would relly be hard for us to say being it could be a big they didnt fix and only affecting that
[01:39] <gogeta> bug
[01:39] <lapion> yates_home, try booting with nomodeset
[01:40] <gogeta> yates_home, better off to ask them
[01:40] <yates_home> i have
[01:40] <yates_home> crickets
[01:40] <lapion> yates_home, and also remove the quiet option at boot
[01:41] <lapion> yates_home, and also set nosplash at boot
[01:41] <gogeta> yates_home, if it was ubuntu i would point you to newer drivers and see if that helped
[01:41] <lapion> yates_home, so set the following options at boot: nosplash nomodeset
[01:42] <lapion> yates_home, and remember to remove quiet from the boot options
[01:42] <gogeta> yates_home, you can always install the nivida driver its a 660 should still be getting them
[01:44] <yates_home> gogeta: well not really.
[01:44] <yates_home> this is on booting a liveusb, so i can't even get the os loaded/installed
[01:45] <gogeta> yates_home, ah then pass the commands they suggested it may help
[01:45] <yates_home> yes, good suggestions. thanks
[01:45] <lapion> yates_home, during the startup in the grub phase you should be able to set nomodeset and nosplash
[01:45] <yates_home> there is no grub phsae - it's a liveusb
[01:45] <gogeta> yates_home, there is that menu is the grub phase
[01:46] <gogeta> yates_home, eg where it says start live usb
[01:46] <lapion> yates_home, a liveusb allways has a botloader and these days it should be grub if not lilo
[01:46] <yates_home> yes, i remember it now - i was mistaken - sorry.
[01:47] <yates_home> i think..
[01:47] <yates_home> it's at work.
[01:47] <yates_home> anyqay, gotta run. thanks everyone.
[01:51] <lapion> he probably has a 2012 mac then he has a different problem it's then a mac-efi problem
[01:54] <pragmaticenigma> fedora is known to cut releases that focus on the bleeding edge, and often older hardware just isn't supported. If they were interested in sticking to a RedHat based distro, we'd been better to propose they check out CentOS. But really, we should have encouraged them to join the Ubuntu family :-)
[02:06] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma, pfft arch family
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:51] <peet> good morning to you
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> tnx peet
[03:22] <blender> Hello can I get some help setting up my new ubuntu install
[03:23] <cfhowlett> !ask | blender
[03:24] <blender> So I have installed ubuntu on new machine. it is telling me low graphics. I looked up the issue and it is fairly common. But the problem is I do not have Ethernet cable just wifi
[03:25] <blender> this is version 16.04 btw
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> blender: graphics card and driver plz?
[03:28] <GeorgeMCW> !patience
[03:30] <blender> Nvidia Titan xp,
[03:30] <blender> driver dont have yet
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> blender: ubuntu-drivers list
[03:35] <blender> after entering lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[03:36] <blender> I got nouveau, the result of ubuntu-drivers list is nvidia-384
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> blender: try sudo apt install nvidia-384
[03:42] <blender> it didnt intsall... says reading state information... Done  Some packages could not be installed..... been moved out of Incoming       . The following packages have unmet  dependencies:  nvidia-384 : Depends: dkms but it is not installable
[03:42] <blender> you have held broken packages
[04:04] <blender> is there a way to know if my system is detecting the wifi hardware?
[04:06] <BillD73> blender: lspci -nnk -d ::0280
[04:07] <blender> Hi billD73 i was blinder this afternoon, finally infront of the system
[04:08] <BugzBunny> blender: Why you color is green?
[04:08] <BillD73> blender: figured as much  sorry I wont be on long but will help as mucha s i can
[04:08] <BugzBunny> Uh
[04:08] <blender> when I entered that command it returned Network Controller [0280]: Realtek semiconductor., ltd. Device
[04:08] <Jonno_FTW> has anyone else had a problem where you can't play music and media in chrome at the same time?
[04:08] <blender> not a problem at all
[04:08] <Jonno_FTW> as in music from an external player
[04:08] <blender> thanks for the help
[04:09] <BillD73> blender: it listed nothing else?
[04:09] <blender> I will probably intall windows 10 if I still cant do
[04:09] <blender> the second line was "Subsystem: ASUTek Computer inc. device [1043:,....]
[04:09] <blender> two lines
[04:10] <blender> Bugzbunny: I dont see any green sorry
[04:10] <BillD73> blender: ok that means its not loading the module you need for your wifi
[04:11] <blender> got it. I think I am in a bit of chicken & egg situation. Idk if its the low graphics thats the problem i solve first or the internet
[04:11] <BillD73> wifi first
[04:12] <blender> got it
[04:12] <BillD73> if you cant get wifi/internet
[04:13] <blender> I have also tried everything mentioned here:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/461825/how-to-connect-to-wifi-from-the-command-line?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
[04:13] <blender> nothing worked
[04:14] <BugzBunny> I figure it out blender
[04:15] <blender> U did?<3
[04:15] <blender> thats awesome
[04:16] <BugzBunny> blender: Yeah, I change Irssi
[04:17] <BugzBunny> blender: This new Irssi has nickcolors
[04:17] <BugzBunny> blender: I forgot I had it
[04:17] <blender> O cool. Thats pretty awesome.
[04:18] <BillD73> blender: lspci | grep Wireless    we need the exact info
[04:18] <blender> currently reading this https://www.datamation.com/open-source/overcoming-ubuntu-wi-fi-not-working.html   if anyone knows please help
[04:19] <blender> umm ... its blank. No resutls
[04:19] <BugzBunny> Ummm
[04:20] <BugzBunny> blender: What issue are you having?
[04:20] <BillD73> BugzBunny: he needs to get his wifi up so he can get the correct nvidia drivers
[04:20] <BugzBunny> K
[04:20] <BugzBunny> Why wifi? is this a notebook?
[04:20] <BillD73> Im not going to be on much longer
[04:21] <BillD73> PC and no access to cable
[04:21] <BugzBunny> No ethernet card?
[04:21] <BugzBunny> How do you have access now?
[04:21] <BillD73> would assume he has ethernet card at least on board but no access   phone/tablet likely?
[04:23] <BillD73> it would be easier if he could locate close enough to use  a cable and update everything
[04:24] <blender> i am on my windows laptop
[04:24] <blender> I do not have an ethernet cable it is in other room
[04:24] <blender> like the other corner of the house
[04:24] <BillD73> anyway I gotta run  I will be back on in the morning  leave me a Pm if ya want blender and let me know where your at
[04:25] <blender> sure thing will try to do that
[04:25] <blender> hopefully this can be resolved soon.
[04:25] <blender> Thanks for all the help
[04:29] <BugzBunny> blender: What is your objective?
[04:30] <blender> i just dont want to buy windows
[04:30] <blender> also learn somelinux and get job
[04:30] <BugzBunny> blender: I have Windows 10, dual boot with UbuntuBudgie on UEFI
[04:30] <blender> ok
[04:31] <blender> thats cool
[04:35] <Guest75869> victor
[04:36] <Guest75869> Guest 75869
[04:39] <BugzBunny> blender: If you have problems, I will try to help solve the problems you crrently having?
[04:40] <blender> yea sure
[04:41] <blender> after entering lsmod, I see that my wifi card is not listed
[04:41] <blender> that means it is not loaded I want to know what should have been loaded and want to load it
[04:43] <BugzBunny> blender: No
[04:43] <BugzBunny> blender: lspci
[04:43] <BugzBunny> blender: Pastebin
[04:43] <blender> I did that too
[04:43] <blender> its not showing
[04:44] <BugzBunny> Pastebin it please
[04:44] <blender> its in a different system
[04:44] <blender> no thanks
[04:44] <blender> i think i will just install windows
[04:44] <blender> thank you
[04:44] <BugzBunny> You don't want fix
[05:35] <alive876> hi all, i was wondering why sometimes a window will collapse into the menu bar, i dont how to get the whole window back?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> alive876: are you on unity?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> moring EriC^^
[05:51] <wyseguy> hey all
[06:07] <iamam> I have been using PPAs for quite a while but I assumed that those are the packages that are maintained and verified by Ubuntu community. Does Ubuntu community put in efforts to verify PPAs ? I know there is no way that a package can be verified with 100% guarantee. But when using a PPA, is there any way to verify its authenticity to a certain extent ?
[06:08] <SlidingHorn> Outside PPAs are not supported unfortunately
[06:09] <iamam> Do you mean that those are not verified to any degree ?
[06:09] <SlidingHorn> !ppa | iamam
[06:09] <SlidingHorn> There you go :)
[06:10] <iamam> Oh ! So I have been using a lot of packages at my own risks. -.-
[06:13] <amazoniantoad> Why can't I join #ubuntu-touch
[06:14] <SlidingHorn> amazoniantoad, are you registered & identified on freenode?
[06:14] <amazoniantoad> yes
[06:14] <SlidingHorn> it forwards to #ubports
[06:15] <amazoniantoad> hm
[06:15] <amazoniantoad> thanks
[06:43] <mystictot> Hi all,
[06:43] <mystictot> I've videos in wrf format. Any suggestions how could I play those videos in linux.
[06:44] <energizer> in gnome i have mirrored displays and i want to change to extended display
[06:44] <energizer> instead of showing the same thing on the other screen, show an extension of the primary
[06:44] <energizer> how do i do this?
[06:46] <SlidingHorn> mystictot, never heard of wrf before, honestly.
[06:48] <ducasse> mystictot: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ubuntu-user-community/rLzF84l5TjQ
[06:51] <SlidingHorn> energizer, check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[06:52] <energizer> backstory: i had extended display a minute ago and then i pressed some keyboard shortcut by accident and now i have mirrored display
[06:55] <energizer> (this is a ux disaster)
[07:11] <guiverc> energizer, can't you type `displays` into menu (super key the displ); then just move the screens around to the position you want/need? (deselecting mirror) - i'm not a gnome user; but that worked on a 17.10(gnome) machine nearby
[07:12] <energizer> guiverc: theres only one display visible in the box
[07:12] <energizer> no mirror checkbox
[07:13] <guiverc> i had a mirror tab; but it could be you hit a key caught by machine-bios that altered hardware? (second screen disabled/hidden by firmware until you re-enable with key)
[07:14] <energizer> o your suggestion led me to the answer!
[07:15] <energizer> disabled each monitor in 'displays' and turned it back on
[07:15] <energizer> back in business
[07:15] <energizer> thanks
[07:15] <guiverc> :)
[07:16] <cheggg> hello i have just got a new ISP and am having trouble with some connection terminology in lubuntu
[07:17] <cheggg> i rang the ISP and they say they know nothing about linux
[07:17] <cheggg> it's weird because windows 7 connected automatically
[07:17] <TJ-> cheggg: That's worring since their systems probably rely on it :)
[07:17] <cheggg> yes:)
[07:17] <TJ-> cheggg: what's the issue?
[07:17] <cheggg> i talked the sales girl into it so that was good
[07:17] <cheggg> well
[07:17] <Ben64> it's not in the script so they don't know what to say
[07:18] <cheggg> in this lubuntu set up part, (they say it's definitely VDSL tick DSL/PPOE not Ethernet)
[07:18] <cheggg> you get to say "service" ( most ISPs leave blank
[07:18] <TJ-> Ben64: I have to try that excuse in here sometime... You say the window won't go full screen? oh, my script says it's an ACPI issue :p
[07:18] <cheggg> yes
[07:18] <cheggg> but I think it is the top box, parent interface / protocol something of this nature
[07:19] <TJ-> cheggg: wait wait wait, let's go back
[07:19] <cheggg> it's weird how win7 conctd auto, it's usually the other way round right
[07:19] <Ben64> TJ-: have you tried clearing your temporary internet files?
[07:19] <Guest57550> Welp, new install of Ubuntu, click the little wrench icon in the dropdown at the upper right to see what it does, whole thing freezes and I have to reboot :x
[07:19] <Guest57550> It was going great until I tried to open settings, though
[07:19] <TJ-> cheggg: Does your ISP provide amodem/router that is connneted to the incoming phone line for xDSL ?
[07:19] <cheggg> i am using the old fritzbox router
[07:20] <cheggg> i mean it workd for windoze so must be possible
[07:20] <TJ-> Ben64: you know - that's porobably it - how silly of me! I did try turning it off and on again but systemd got stuck on the shutdown screen :)
[07:20] <cheggg> am not familiar with xDSL
[07:20] <cheggg> i took some snapshots of the windows settings
[07:20] <Ben64> cheggg: does it have a phone jack and then some ethernet jacks?
[07:20] <TJ-> cheggg: Right, so you have a 'standard' local gateway router for your LAN giving out internal IP addresses for wired and wireless clients?
[07:20] <cheggg> hang on give me 5 min
[07:21] <TJ-> cheggg: the fritxbox is the gateway router, yes? All device go through it to get Internet
[07:23] <cheggg> yeh it's broadband off a phone line ben64
[07:23] <cheggg> yes
[07:23] <cheggg> in windows it even seemed to call the connection fritz.box
[07:23] <TJ-> cheggg: Right, your devices connect to a router/gateway called 'fritzbox'
[07:23] <cheggg> the phone will come out of the fritz box too
[07:23] <cheggg> yes
[07:24] <TJ-> cheggg: is your Lubuntu PC using a wireless connection, or wired?
[07:24] <cheggg> wired
[07:24] <TJ-> cheggg: so, you've an ethernet cable from the PC to the fritzbox
[07:24] <cheggg> i can give you all the .. yeh
[07:24] <cheggg> settings from the windoz details
[07:24] <TJ-> cheggg: OK, and now, in Lubuntu, on the task bar, there's a network icon
[07:24] <cheggg> but ... the lubuntu interface is like odd
[07:25] <cheggg> yeps
[07:25] <cheggg> (all by memory seeing as am in window7)
[07:25] <TJ-> cheggg: OK, right click that icon. A sub-menu will show, near the bottom should be a "Connection Editor..." option, choose that
[07:25] <cheggg> it seems to temporarily connect to DSL1 and then fail after 20 secs or so
[07:25] <BugzBunny> TJ-: What is the problem so far?
[07:25] <cheggg> yeps
[07:25] <cheggg> am leaving "service" _ value blank
[07:26] <cheggg> and the "parent interface" value well we have no idea
[07:26] <cheggg> the password and username seem correct
[07:26] <cheggg> and that's the main page of the settings
[07:27] <TJ-> cheggg: in the connection editor dialog box, you should select the wired interface wihich is likely called "Wired Connection 1"
[07:27] <cheggg> bugzbunny i can have internet in windoz but not lubuntu
[07:27] <cheggg> yeps TJ that's all happening
[07:27] <BugzBunny> I am asking TJ- if he has idea
[07:27] <BugzBunny> I just reading now
[07:27] <TJ-> cheggg: In the first tab presented ensure the connection is set to automatically connect, and is for all users. Then goto the "Ipv4" tab and set the method to "Automatic (DHCP)"
[07:28] <cheggg> one worrying thing is that windowz seemed to autoconnect without password
[07:28] <cheggg> yeps am pretty sure i did that
[07:28] <BugzBunny> I had hope TJ- offer some information
[07:28] <cheggg> it's definitely IPv4 she said
[07:28] <cheggg> VDSL -ppoe
[07:28] <TJ-> cheggg: You do not enter a password from the PCs to use your ISP connection. The Fritzbox gateway router does that
[07:29] <cheggg> i wish i could have found a reset button on the router
[07:29] <cheggg> but ... if windoz is connecting, that's not the issue right
[07:29] <TJ-> cheggg: the router will have a web-page based admin interface where you can set the ISP login details
[07:29] <GautamS> I'm getting pretty low download speeds in Ubuntu for some reason
[07:29] <cheggg> yeps
[07:29] <cheggg> won't let me in to that interface
[07:30] <cheggg> says my pw is wrong
[07:30] <GautamS> Tried chromium, firefox, download speeds are painfully slow
[07:30] <BugzBunny> GautamS: How did you determine that?
[07:30] <TJ-> cheggg: right, it sounds like the Fritzbox is OK, you just need to setup the Lubuntu wired connection correctly
[07:30] <cheggg> yet gives me internet anyway, in windoz
[07:30] <cheggg> right
[07:30] <cheggg> yeh
[07:30] <GautamS> BugzBunny: Downloaded blender from ubuntu, Downloaded blender from Windows on the same machine
[07:30] <cheggg> that's my got-to point so far
[07:30] <GautamS> Average speed was 700K on Windows, 36K on Ubuntu right now
[07:30] <cheggg> hmm hmm hmm
[07:31] <cheggg>  most of the lubuntu settings seem to be just extras
[07:31] <GautamS> wait
[07:31] <Ben64> GautamS: try speedtest.net
[07:31] <GautamS> let me restart
[07:31] <TJ-> GautamS: using wireless? radio congestion? use "iwconfig" and check if there are excessive retries or other high error counts
[07:31] <cheggg> like ... PAP tick CHsomethign tick.... and on another page IPv6 .. not so relevant
[07:31] <GautamS> TJ-: nope. Using ethernet
[07:32] <cheggg> why not let me finish :)
[07:32] <GautamS> I think it'll resolve after a restart
[07:32] <TJ-> cheggg: What are you talking about? none of that is required. If you've added a PPP connection on the Lubuntu PC that is not going to work
[07:32] <cheggg> no
[07:32] <cheggg> PPP is one of the tabs under the DSL setting
[07:32] <BugzBunny> GautamS: That's not emperical
[07:32] <cheggg> i didn't do anything in that tab
[07:33] <BugzBunny> Guest57550: More information you give, the better I understand
[07:33] <BugzBunny> Guest57550: sorry
[07:33] <cheggg> i'm just trying to say that only one of the tabs on the lubuntu settings seemed to matter
[07:33] <GautamS> BugzBunny: I don't have much information other than downloads being slow
[07:33] <GautamS> That's what I'm trying to figure out atm
[07:33] <cheggg> and apart from parent interface it seemed all good
[07:34] <BugzBunny> GautamS: Than that's ISP problem
[07:34] <GautamS> Internet works fine
[07:34] <GautamS> BugzBunny: It's not an ISP problem
[07:34] <GautamS> Downloads through apt-get and Windows work
[07:34] <GautamS> Pretty fast
[07:34] <adrian_1908> GautamS: did you try speedtest.net?
[07:35] <cheggg> okies i'll just stay in windoz til my boyz wake up :/
[07:36] <SlidingHorn> adrian_1908, GautamS don't use speedtest...it's awful and inaccurate.  testmy.net is much more "real world" oriented
[07:36] <GautamS> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7200755207 there
[07:36] <GautamS> I don't think the ISP is a problem
[07:36] <GautamS> I can download on this machine with the same connection just fine hmm
[07:36] <GautamS> Also Windows on the same machine
[07:38] <BugzBunny> GautamS: So it's internet problem
[07:38] <BugzBunny> It's being subjective
[07:38] <GautamS> It's weird man
[07:38] <GautamS> I can browse the internet normally
[07:38] <adrian_1908> GautamS: hard to say then. Downloads in FF/Chromium are reliably slow, yes?
[07:38] <GautamS> Yes
[07:38] <SlidingHorn> BugzBunny, what??  An ISP has no interest on what OS you're using.
[07:38] <BugzBunny> NO
[07:39] <BugzBunny> Internet doesn't gaurantee speed
[07:39] <BugzBunny> Some servers are slower than others
[07:39] <GautamS> adrian_1908: The weird thing is.. apt-get works normally
[07:39] <Ben64> apt isn't a lot of traffic
[07:39] <adrian_1908> GautamS: I would have suggested checked if a proxyserver is accidentally set, but then speedtest.net wouldn't have been fast either.
[07:39] <adrian_1908> *checking
[07:44] <TJ-> GautamS: have you tried using a web browser to download a large Ubuntu package from the archive - which is exactly what apt does
[07:45] <GautamS> Yeah I just did. Hmm, I got about 600K which is normal
[07:45] <GautamS> Seems blender need to fix their servers for Indian clients :P
[07:46] <TJ-> GautamS: sounds like they might be operating a transparent HTTP proxy. Does the slowness affect HTTPS connections?
[07:47] <GautamS> Seems blender need to fix their servers for Indian clients :P
[07:48] <adrian_1908> GautamS: usually, you'd use the Blender package from the Ubuntu repos. If you download a binary/installer, http://graphicall.org/ is another good source for custom builds.
[07:49] <TJ-> GautamS: you can use a debug option in apt to examine the HTTP headers to see if it mentions a proxy too, e.g: "apt -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update"
[07:50] <apicult0r> Hello, world! If anyone else is running bionic, could you let me know if the VPN config GUI offers you anything other than PPTP out of the box?
[07:52] <wyseguy> apicult0r no idea
[07:52] <ducasse> !bionic | apicult0r
[07:52] <apicult0r> Yeah, I know its not out yet, thanks
[07:53] <apicult0r> I'm running the pre-release
[07:53] <BugzBunny> apicult0r: I think you are confused
[07:53] <SlidingHorn> apicult0r, (the point is that it's not supported here yet)
[07:53] <BugzBunny> apicult0r: PPTP?
[07:53] <ducasse> apicult0r: yes, so support is in #ubuntu+1
[07:53] <apicult0r> I'm not asking for support
[07:53] <BugzBunny> apicult0r: Why that assumption
[07:53] <apicult0r> I'm just asking if anyone else sees only PPTP
[07:53] <apicult0r> Assumption?
[07:54] <apicult0r> That PPTP is insecure?
[07:54] <BugzBunny> apicult0r: NetworkManger, nm-applet
[07:54] <BugzBunny> apicult0r: Supports a few protocols
[07:54] <TJ-> apicult0r: users with 18.04 are in #ubuntu+1 so that's the channel to ask in
[07:54] <ducasse> apicult0r: for any questions about it, please use #ubuntu+1
[07:54] <apicult0r> Thanks, TJ-
[07:54] <apicult0r> Cheers!
[07:58] <OerHeks> !info network-manager-vpnc
[08:03] <rollingubuntu> hello! anyone experienced that scrolling just suddenly stops? like scrolling down a long page and suddenly the touchpad does not scroll any more? then I have to use the scroll bar and then I can scroll again with two figers on my touchpad?
[08:03] <rollingubuntu> (also, I can mess around with my fingers on the touchpad - two & three fingers - for a while and the scrolling starts again?)
[08:04] <rollingubuntu> this is something related to some recent kernel update I guess as before yesterday it did not happen
[08:04] <rollingubuntu> Ubuntu updates can drive people crazy... or... can drive me crazy
[08:07] <rollingubuntu> any of you awake? alive?
[08:14] <wyseguy> nope
[08:17] <TJ-> rollingubuntu: i was experimenting with that and just discovered I can zoom the screen with alt + 2-figer drag :) Are you sure you're not triggering some such other mode by accident? I don't know where all the possible permutations are documented even
[08:26] <Squarism> can one partition a monitor into 2 "virtual" screens? Working just like dual monitors would so to speak
[08:26] <rollingubuntu> TJ-: well, 100% sure that I am just scrolling down a long web page :) just like any other time of the day and suddenly the scroll stops... if I fiddle around on the touchpad, after about 3-7 seconds, it starts working again
[08:27] <rollingubuntu> just as I described earlier; or if I want instant scrolling again, I use the touch pad & the scroll bars or the arrow buttons or the page up & down buttons, etc
[08:27] <rollingubuntu> TJ-: thanks for your reply any way :)
[08:28] <TJ-> rollingubuntu: I cannot reproduce that on 18.04 with the 4.15 kernel and Xorg/Xubuntu
[08:29] <TJ-> rollingubuntu: could be gnome/Wayland-specific issue if you're on 17.10
[08:31] <Dysanix> Hey everyone
[08:31] <wyseguy> yo yo
[08:31] <Dysanix> I think I did some stupid command and then my ubuntu shut off and now it doesnt boot anymore
[08:32] <Hannibal> What was the command?
[08:34] <rollingubuntu> TJ-: I'm on 16.04 on 32 bits as the 17.09 with 64 bits had many issues (minor however very nerving ones)
[08:36] <logithack> i need to install java and the java browser plugin. ive got java installed. when i type java -version, it shows me the proper JRE installed. how can i get the java browser plugin working though? firefox no longer suports java, chrome doesnt either (since version 34). any ideas?
[08:37] <TJ-> rollingubuntu: have you looked in the logs (/var/log/kern.log and/or /var/log/syslog and $HOME/.xsession-errors ) for clues?
[08:37] <Dysanix> @Hannibal I downloaded Skype. It didnt have an installer, it was just a folder with /usr/bin and /usr/share
[08:37] <Dysanix> So I tried to move all the files from that download folder to the actual /usr
[08:37] <Dysanix> https://i.imgur.com/16qgYRi_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
[08:37] <Dysanix> And now it doesnt boot anymore
[08:37] <Dysanix> -_-
[08:38] <Dysanix> I dont know what happened
[08:38] <Dysanix> Those were my commands
[08:38] <Dysanix> In the image
[08:40] <Dysanix> After the last command "sudo mv -v Downloads/usr/share/* -t /usr/share/*"
[08:40] <Dysanix> Everything messed up
[08:40] <Dysanix> Can someone explain what that command does
[08:40] <Dysanix> So I can revert it
[08:41] <Dysanix> I thought it moved files from the usr share in Downloads to the real usr share
[08:42] <Ben64> Dysanix: why would you do that anyway
[08:42] <Dysanix> Because Skype didnt come with an installer
[08:42] <Dysanix> So I wanted to place it in the correct directories
[08:42] <Dysanix> Manually
[08:42] <adrian_1908> Dysanix: ##linux might be another channel that could help
[08:42] <Dysanix> Thank you adrian
[08:43] <Ben64> !skype
[08:44] <TJ-> Dysanix: sounds like yo over-wrote some key OS files with files of the same name
[08:44] <Dysanix> Ben64 its a bit too late for that
[08:44] <Ben64> it's never too late to learn
[08:45] <Ben64> for the most part, on ubuntu you don't go to blah.com to download blah
[08:45] <Amis> Skype has a debian installer I think
[08:45] <Ben64> lots of things have installers, but almost all of those things are in the ubuntu repositories
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> skype is on snap now too
[08:47] <Ben64> that works too
[08:48] <logithack> ive uninstalled Google Chrome but i can still see it using dpkg -l | grep google. how can i entirely remove it?
[08:48] <TJ-> Dysanix: You'll have to reinstall, you totally replaced the core /bin /usr directories
[08:48] <TJ-> logithack: is it showing as installed thought  ("ii ... ")
[08:49] <TJ-> logithack: better command is "apt list --installed '*google*'  "
[08:49] <Dysanix> I feel like an absolute idiot
[08:49] <logithack> TJ-: lol, suddenly its no longer there
[08:49] <Dysanix> But thanks guys
[08:49] <logithack> ive just typed dpkg -l | grep google again and it doesnt show up anymore
[08:49] <Dysanix> Reinstalling ubuntu keeps files right?
[08:50] <logithack> TJ-: the command you suggested doesnt show anything apart from Listing... Done
[08:50] <logithack> so i guess its gone now
[08:50] <TJ-> Dysanix: you might be able to get it to hobble by booting the LiveISO in "Try Ubuntu" mode, and copying core files from the live ISO into the broken install, and then doing some other tricks to clean it up
[08:50] <TJ-> logithack: Yes, it's gorn!
[08:50] <logithack> alright, thanks!
[08:50] <TJ-> Dysanix: the LiveISO you use must be the same Ubuntu release as is installed, though
[08:51] <Dysanix> Okay Im going to try
[08:51] <Dysanix> I hope it works
[08:51] <survey0r> Dysanix, I would save documents on a usb or whatever and reinstall. This time create separate / and /home directories. :)
[08:52] <survey0r> i mean partitions
[08:52] <Dysanix> What about installed packages?
[08:52] <Dysanix> Can I back those up
[08:52] <TJ-> Dysanix: do you have 2 PCs so we can talk you through it whilst you're doing it?
[08:53] <Dysanix> I am dualbooting with windows and currently on my phone to IRC
[08:53] <TJ-> Dysanix: if you go this route we can reinstall all the packages that contains files you wiped out.
[08:53] <Dysanix> I am.booted into Windows right now creating bootable Ubuntu stick
[08:53] <TJ-> Dysanix: OK, so we can talkk to you via the phone... that's good
[08:54] <Dysanix> Thank you so much
[08:54] <TJ-> Dysanix: once the PC is booted in Try Ubuntu mode it can get network connectivity, then you can connect it to IRC too using the wrb browser to http://webchat.freenode.org/ so you can copy/paste information easily
[08:55] <TJ-> Dysanix: sorry, that should be https://webchat.freenode.net/
[08:56] <Dysanix> Okay! It might take a second to make the USB. Flashing right now
[08:57] <Dysanix> I feel so dumb lol I have learnt not to use sudo commands anymore unless I am absolutely sure
[08:57] <jjhiblot> exit
[08:57] <TJ-> Dysanix: more like don't blindly follow instructions without considering them and invesitgating how they might change things
[08:58] <Dysanix> I guess thats a fair point. I just copied and answer on stackoverflow
[08:58] <Dysanix> An*
[08:58] <TJ-> Dysanix: E.g. I have disposable simple LXD containers with various versions of Ubuntu in so I just drop into one of those to test things without messing up the host OS, then if it goes wrong, I just delete the container and relaunch it
[09:00] <Dysanix> @TJ- thats actually a really good idea
[09:00] <TJ-> Dysanix: part of it is also inexperience, you didn't know that there's a BIG difference between "mv bin /bin" and "mv bin/* /bin/" - the former completely replaces /bin/ directory wiping out whatever was there, whereas the latter only moves files that are *in* bin/* to be files inside the existing /bin/*
[09:01] <Dysanix> I am at 90% of flashing the USB stick
[09:01] <TJ-> Dysanix: and you wanted the latter form to move files into the existing /bin/
[09:01] <Dysanix> The weird thing is that I am currently studying application development and we have linux lessons.. and things like this never got explained
[09:01] <Dysanix> The whole class is just about copying and pasting commands and writing down the result
[09:02] <TJ-> Dysanix: much of this is 'shell fu' too, comes from experimenting and reading man-pages as much as from anywhere else
[09:02] <Ben64> theres a really good switch with mv,       -i, --interactive              prompt before overwrite
[09:02] <TJ-> Dysanix: understanding the shell is a semester all on it's own
[09:03] <TJ-> Ben64: agreed, but you've still got understand the underlying mechanics of what the operation will actually do
[09:03] <Ben64> right
[09:06] <Dysanix> How do I boot from GRUB into the USB stick? I rebooted from Windows to the USB stick but it seems to ignore it and just boot to GRUB
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> Dysanix: try F12 for boot media option
[09:10] <Dysanix> Oeh got it!
[09:10] <adrian_1908> Dysanix: I didn't follow the conversation, but if you want to boot from the stick you'd need to find the correct key to press. Could be F12, could be something else.
[09:10] <adrian_1908> That's before GRUB.
[09:10] <Dysanix> Okay try ubuntu without installing
[09:10] <survey0r> yes
[09:11] <Dysanix> Okay i am in there right now
[09:11] <Dysanix> Let me switch to web irc
[09:13] <Dysanix> Hi
[09:13] <Dysanix> I'm on webIRC now
[09:13] <Dysanix> Booted into LiveISO
[09:13] <TheGrumpyScot> I have a "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" on a server. system reports that errors were encountered nginx-core and nginx. Any ideas on what do next ?
[09:14] <dragosp> hi all, I am trying to set up an ipsec site to site, and I need a bit of a help
[09:14] <TJ-> Dysanix: OK, I'm just chasing my Huskies and getting a coffee, give me 2 minutes
[09:14] <Dysanix> TJ-: Alright!  I'm so jealous
[09:15] <TJ-> Dysanix: prepare by opening a terminal and doing "sudo apt install pastebinit"
[09:15] <dragosp> i am using openswan to connect to an already set up provider end
[09:15] <TJ-> Dysanix: yes... and one has managed to lose her collar
[09:15] <xristos_> hey
[09:15] <Dysanix> Done!
[09:16] <xristos_> perl or python guys?
[09:17] <dragosp> my linux is being a nat router so I forwarded the ports, the question is: my left in /etc/ipsec.conf is my linux ip not my routers public ?
[09:18] <rvgate> xristos_, that is a very generic question... what would you like to hear?
[09:19] <TJ-> Dysanix: Let's collect some initial info so we know what we are dealing with: "pastebinit <( lsblk -f )"
[09:19] <Dysanix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SnsD7PsXkg/  @TJ-
[09:21] <xristos_> im new to programing in linux and between python and perl. So perl or python ?
[09:21] <BugzBunny> Dysanix: Is this a laptop?
[09:21] <Dysanix> BugzBunny: Yes, it's a laptop :)
[09:21] <Dysanix> I use it for school
[09:21] <TJ-> Dysanix: so it looks like Ubuntu root fs is nvme0n1p6, yes?
[09:21] <VanRenesse> xristos_: I would say Python, but purely personal preference
[09:22] <BugzBunny> Dysanix: You have a spin disk and NVME NAND ring?
[09:22] <Dysanix> @TJ- That's correct. sudo parted -l it tells me number 6 is the ext4 ubuntu partition
[09:23] <TJ-> Dysanix: so let's create a change-root environment to explore it. "sudo -i" so you have root then "mkdir /target; mount /dev/nvme0n1p6 /target; for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done"
[09:23] <Dysanix> BugzBunny: Spin disk? I only have an NVME SSD afaik
[09:23] <Dysanix> Spin disk you are referring to an oldschool HDD?
[09:24] <TJ-> Dysanix: then enter the change-root with "chroot /target" and do "mount -a" then check it has network connectivity with "ping archive.ubuntu.com"
[09:24] <BugzBunny> Dysanix: Exactly
[09:24] <TJ-> Dysanix: actually, don't do the "chroot /target", wait
[09:24] <TJ-> Dysanix: as it's missing /bin/ that ain't going to work, doh!
[09:24] <BugzBunny> TJ-: Are we enemies?
[09:25] <BugzBunny> TJ-: I am asking again, are we enemies?
[09:25] <Dysanix> @TJ- oops I already did it
[09:25] <Dysanix> I was up to the ping part : 12 packets transmitted, 0 received
[09:26] <TJ-> Dysanix: well actually it probably will work, you replaced /usr/bin/ not /bin/ I noticed from the photo
[09:26] <BugzBunny> TJ-: So I am on ignore
[09:26] <TJ-> Dysanix: do "hostame" - is the it the name of the installed system?
[09:26] <rvgate> xristos_, if you are starting with programming, it does not really matter which one you take.. but it does matter if you have something specific you would like to build... some programming languages are just better for certain things you would like to do... but for the purpose of just learning principles of programming, take any
[09:26] <pelmenoid> hello, did somebody know what linux kernel will be used in 18.04?
[09:26] <Dysanix> 'ubuntu'
[09:26] <Dysanix> the installed system should be dysanix-ubuntu
[09:27] <Dysanix> Well that's the PC name I entered during installation at least
[09:27] <TJ-> Dysanix: ok, so the chroot /target failed because files were missing, that's good
[09:27] <BugzBunny> No
[09:27] <TJ-> Dysanix: so... "pastebinit <( find /target/usr -ls )"
[09:28] <BugzBunny> NO
[09:28] <TJ-> pelmenoid: 4.15
[09:28] <BugzBunny> NO
[09:28] <BugzBunny> Dysanix: Have you know how to mount it
[09:28] <Dysanix> root@ubuntu:/# pastebinit <( find /target/usr -ls ) find: ‘/target/usr’: No such file or directory Sorry, command-not-found has crashed! Please file a bug report at:
[09:29] <TJ-> Dysanix: ouch! just in case we're stuck in between the chroot do "exit"
[09:29] <BugzBunny> NO
[09:30] <TJ-> Dysanix: if the GUI terminal is still there, it means you were in the chroot
[09:30] <TJ-> Dysanix: if not, re-open the GUI terminal
[09:30] <BugzBunny> No
[09:30] <TJ-> BugzBunny: please stop, now
[09:30] <G66K> hello everyone, im using lubuntu 32bits, when im trying to compile for 64bits using gcc -o file file.c -m64 i got bits/libc-header-start.h: No such file or directory
[09:30] <BugzBunny> TJ-: NO, re-open the gui?
[09:31] <daknuett> @G66K is this a user or a system file?
[09:32] <Dysanix> Alright I exited
[09:32] <Dysanix> Now I see "ubuntu@ubuntu"
[09:32] <TJ-> G66K: you would need the 64-bit support files
[09:32] <Dysanix> "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$"
[09:32] <Dysanix> So I am no longer root right?
[09:33] <TJ-> Dysanix: oK, now you're stable. Do "sudo -i" once more
[09:33] <daknuett> It is a system file.
[09:33] <Dysanix> Done
[09:33] <G66K> daknuett, sorry i didnt get your question
[09:33] <BugzBunny> Dysanix: No
[09:33] <TJ-> Dysanix: then do "ls /target/usr" and ensure that directory exists
[09:33] <G66K> TJ-, can you please names those files ?
[09:33] <daknuett> I got it here: /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/libc-header-start.h
[09:33] <Dysanix> Yes it does!
[09:33] <BugzBunny> Dysanix: Make sure you understand waht you doing
[09:33] <Dysanix> bin games include lib local sbin share src
[09:33] <BugzBunny> Dysanix: It's better that way
[09:34] <Dysanix> BugzBunny: What's wrong? Lol
[09:34] <Dysanix> Why do you keep saying no
[09:34] <TJ-> G66K: I'm guessing you need to enable the amd64 foreign architecture in the package manager, and install the amd64 dev packages that contain those headers and the supporting libraries
[09:34] <TJ-> Dysanix: ignore BugzBunny
[09:34] <BugzBunny> Dysanix: I personally don't like people who doin't know what people is doing
[09:34] <BugzBunny> Dysanix: I have a strong opinion about that
[09:34] <TJ-> Dysanix: So "pastebinit <( find /target/usr -ls )"
[09:34] <Dysanix> BugzBunny: I am trying to recover my Ubuntu installation so this is kind of beyond principles lol
[09:35] <BugzBunny> Dysanix: I have mont it to /targert/usr?
[09:35] <albrecht> BugzBunny: TJ- is a well-versed volunteer here (has been for years), you've suggested earlier that an ISP is slowing someone's connection because they're using Ubuntu. Just take a back seat.
[09:35] <albrecht> i.e. shut up.
[09:35] <BugzBunny> albrecht: I actually never suggested that
[09:35] <Dysanix> TJ-: pastebinit <( find /target/usr -ls ) Failed to contact the server: [Errno socket error] [Errno socket error] The read operation timed out
[09:36] <Dysanix> I am not being lucky am I
[09:36] <BugzBunny> albrecht: I said use mirrors
[09:36] <daknuett> apt-get install gcc-multilib might do it
[09:36] <TJ-> Dysanix: oh, failed to contact the server means the network failed
[09:37] <albrecht> 03:38 < BugzBunny> It's being subjective
[09:37] <Dysanix> TJ-: But I am currently using the same network to chat
[09:37] <TJ-> Dysanix: can you "ping paste.ubuntu.com" ?
[09:37] <TJ-> Dysanix: right, but you have an established connection... it might just be affecting NEW connections
[09:37] <albrecht> you have no clue what you're saying.  Stop interfering with someone giving valid support BugzBunny
[09:37] <Dysanix> 100% packet loss
[09:38] <Dysanix> 10 transmitted, 0 received
[09:38] <Guest57550> Anyone else experiencing hangs with multiple monitors and 17.10?
[09:38] <TJ-> Dysanix: ouch!
[09:38] <Guest57550> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1022188/gnome-shell-hang-with-100-cpu-after-opening-settings-17-10
[09:38] <BugzBunny> albrecht: 5:37 < albrecht> 03:38 < BugzBunny> It's being subjective
[09:38] <TJ-> Dysanix: can you web-browse to some random web site to see if it's only console has the problem?
[09:38] <BugzBunny> albrecht: That's what you proof
[09:39] <Dysanix> TJ-: Browsing seems to work fine
[09:39] <BugzBunny> So far, I see the problem is deaper
[09:39] <Dysanix> Tried youtube and google
[09:39] <Flannel> BugzBunny, albrecht: lets just drop it and keep things technical support.
[09:39] <albrecht> someone ban this fool before he has someone wreck their system
[09:39] <TJ-> Dysanix: they fail too?
[09:39] <Dysanix> TJ-: No, youtube and google work
[09:39] <albrecht> Flannel: done.
[09:39] <Dysanix> Seems to be just the terminal
[09:39] <BugzBunny> Flannel: I don't have any problem helping people
[09:39] <TJ-> Dysanix: hmmm, how about "ping archive.ubuntu.com" ?
[09:40] <Dysanix> Also 100% packet loss
[09:40] <Dysanix> strange
[09:40] <BugzBunny> Dysanix: What are using right now >
[09:40] <TJ-> Dysanix: common theme being ubuntu.com ?
[09:40] <Dysanix> pinging google also 100% packet loss
[09:40] <TJ-> Dysanix: how about "ping launchpad.net" ?
[09:41] <Dysanix> Nope :(
[09:41] <Dysanix> 6 transmitted, 0 received, 100% loss
[09:41] <TJ-> Dysanix: right... to save having to diagnose this, reboot the LiveISO and let's start again else we'll be down a rabbit hole trying to solve network issues instead!
[09:41] <Dysanix> maybe restart
[09:41] <Dysanix> yes lol
[09:41] <Dysanix> Be right back :)
[09:45] <G66K> TJ-, now im having different error : now im having other error fatal error: curl/curl.h: No such file or directory
[09:45] <G66K> but still compile for 32b
[09:45] <Dysanix_> TJ-: Alright I am back!
[09:45] <G66K> and throw error when im trying to compile for 64b
[09:46] <Dysanix_> Pinging still does not work though
[09:46] <Dysanix_> Maybe I should give up the hope
[09:46] <TJ-> G66K: I'm not actually sure building 64-bit on 32-bit is going to work, it works the other way around (building 32-bit on 64-bit) - depends if the CPU is 64-bit or not
[09:46] <Dysanix> Idk if my messages sent because I wasnt authenticated
[09:46] <TJ-> Dysanix_: there's a local network issue then, since you've connected to IRC OK
[09:47] <Dysanix> might be because of the school network
[09:47] <Dysanix> let me try my 4G
[09:47] <TJ-> Dysanix: we started off OK because you pastebinned a report
[09:47] <rollingubuntu> TJ-: yes, I just checked those logs and could not really see anything or perhaps I do not know what to look for?!? :)
[09:47] <TJ-> rollingubuntu: there may be nothing there but they're the first place I always look for clues
[09:47] <Dysanix> Yes it works now!
[09:47] <Dysanix> using 4G
[09:48] <TJ-> Dysanix: right, ready to roll again ?
[09:48] <Dysanix> Sorry for wasting your time so far lol
[09:48] <Dysanix> Hopefully all goes well now
[09:48] <TJ-> Dysanix: Terminal > "sudo -i"
[09:48] <R13ose> Hi
[09:48] <Dysanix> Done!
[09:49] <TJ-> Dysanix:  "mkdir /target; mount /dev/nvme0n1p6 /target; for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done"
[09:49] <Dysanix> Done
[09:49] <TJ-> Dysanix: then "pastebinit <( find /target/usr -ls )"
[09:50] <Dysanix> root@ubuntu:~# pastebinit <( find /target/usr -ls ) Failed to contact the server: [Errno socket error] The write operation timed out
[09:50] <Dysanix> pinging still works though
[09:51] <TJ-> Dysanix: I think the output might be too long
[09:51] <TJ-> Dysanix: try this: "find /target/usr | wc -l" - how many lines does it report it counted?
[09:51] <rollingubuntu> TJ-: so in case this touchpad issues would happen to you, what would you kind of expect to show up in the logs? anything I could seek for? :)
[09:51] <Dysanix> TJ-: 163029
[09:51] <TJ-> Dysanix: Ahah!
[09:51] <TJ-> Dysanix: I think we'll be more selective in future :D
[09:52] <Dysanix> LOL
[09:52] <TJ-> Dysanix: that might be a good sign though, since the commands in your photo suggest that /usr/ was replaced by the ./bin
[09:52] <Dysanix> after the very last command
[09:52] <Dysanix> everything went down hill fast
[09:53] <TJ-> Dysanix: how about "pastebinit <( find /target/usr -maxdepth 2 -type d )"
[09:53] <Dysanix> that was the command with the * in it
[09:53] <Dysanix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xvWB7Tk7Gh/
[09:53] <TJ-> rollingubuntu: experience allows me to spot 'unusual' messages but I wouldn't be knowing what to look for ahead of time
[09:54] <rollingubuntu> TJ-: got you! no worries & many thanks for your tips
[09:55] <TJ-> Dysanix: OK, I think we only need to focus in .../usr/bin and .../usr/share, so "pastebinit <( find /target/usr/bin /target/usr/share  -ls )"
[09:56] <Dysanix> Alright!
[09:56] <Dysanix> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wWnMcZT6TD/
[09:58] <TJ-> Dysanix: oh my! now my browser cannot reach paste.ubuntu.com !
[09:59] <TJ-> Dysanix: ahh, got it now
[09:59] <Dysanix> TJ-: lmao phew
[10:01] <Guest70243> How to install stock gnome on 18.04? Guides I've seen say to install gnome-session, but there is no such package
[10:01] <Guest70243> nor vanilla-gnome*
[10:03] <OerHeks> Guest70243, there is, but seek support in #ubuntu+1 until release .. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome-session
[10:03] <TJ-> Dysanix: right, more good news. /usr/bin/ content looks safe. The problem is under /usr/share/ where somehow you seem to have managed to move everything into /usr/share/aclocal/ !! I'm still studying it since the commands in your photo and the listing don't make sense - the comands wouldn't cause this!
[10:03] <Guest70243> Oh, I must have disabled universe repository, that might have caused this
[10:03] <Guest70243> Sorry
[10:04] <Dysanix> TJ-: I remember seeing a lot of alocal after typing the command
[10:04] <Dysanix> While all the files shot by
[10:04] <Dysanix> So you might be onto something
[10:05] <TJ-> Dysanix: and it looks like there's a simple fix for that issue, although there may still be other issues afterwards to clear up. To fix the aclocal problem do "mv /target/usr/share/aclocal/* /target/usr/share/"
[10:06] <TJ-> Dysanix: that will move everything back... then "ls -a /usr/share/aclocal/" should show an empty directory
[10:06] <TJ-> Dysanix: we've still got to replace the files that *should* be in aclocal :)
[10:07] <Dysanix> I did the command. There was no feedback after doing the command
[10:07] <Dysanix> Doing ls -a command still shows its full of stuff
[10:07] <Dysanix> root@ubuntu:~# mv /target/usr/share/aclocal/* /target/usr/share/ root@ubuntu:~# ls -a /usr/share/aclocal .                 iconv.m4         lib-ld.m4        size_max.m4 ..                intdiv0.m4       lib-link.m4      stdint_h.m4 codeset.m4        intl.m4          lib-prefix.m4    threadlib.m4 extern-inline.m4  intldir.m4       lock.m4          uintmax_t.m4 fcntl-o.m4        intlmacosx.m4    longlong.m4      visibility.m4 fontuti
[10:08] <TJ-> Dysanix: Wow, those were the files I thought we had to replace. Something very weird going on there!
[10:08] <TJ-> Dysanix: the command I gave you should have moved all those .m4 files to /usr/share/ !
[10:08] <Dysanix> But they are still in aclocal x.x
[10:08] <TJ-> Dysanix: I'm not going to question it for now since it's looking correct
[10:08] <Dysanix> strange
[10:09] <Dysanix> wait
[10:09] <TJ-> Dysanix: I think we can try a 'chroot' again now
[10:09] <Dysanix> the share folder is full with stuff again
[10:09] <Dysanix> what's going on lmao
[10:09] <TJ-> Dysanix: yes, we just moved it bac
[10:09] <TJ-> Dysanix: you'd somehow moved everthing that should be in /usr/local/ into /usr/local/aclocal/
[10:10] <Dysanix> but how did it know which files to keep
[10:10] <Dysanix> that's weird
[10:10] <Dysanix> ohwell
[10:10] <TJ-> Dysanix: going back to look at your photo to think if anything else needs checking before we do a chroot
[10:10] <Dysanix> Alright :)
[10:11] <Dysanix> The commands without * didnt execute I am pretty sure
[10:11] <Dysanix> I told me the directory was not empty
[10:11] <TJ-> Dysanix: I'm going to ignore the photo since it doesn't correlate with what we are seeing... I'll work off what we actually find!
[10:11] <Dysanix> so didn't work
[10:11] <eraserpencil> Guys! I cant download xtight vncviewer...
[10:11] <eraserpencil> got this error
[10:11] <TJ-> Dysanix: let's try the chroot. did we do the mount --bind this time around?
[10:12] <eraserpencil> Can't find a source to download version '1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10' of 'libirs-export141:amd64'
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> eraserpencil: be carefull with vnc as its a security risk
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | eraserpencil instead
[10:12] <Dysanix> TJ-: If it wasnt in the initial script then we did not
[10:12] <TJ-> Dysanix: lets check: "mount | grep target" do you see /target/proc /target/sys etc?
[10:13] <Dysanix> yes!
[10:13] <Dysanix> test
[10:13] <Dysanix> I see /target/proc,sys,dev,etc
[10:14] <TJ-> Dysanix: I thought we did but had to be sure, OK, now try entering the chroot. First do "exit" to drop from root to regular 'ubuntu' user
[10:14] <TJ-> Dysanix: so now the shell prompt should be a $ not a #
[10:14] <Dysanix> Correct!
[10:14] <TJ-> Dysanix: then, enter the chroot with "sudo chroot /target" and if it worked the shell prompt should be a #
[10:14] <Dysanix> yes! It worked
[10:15] <TJ-> Dysanix: Yay!! OK, we're now effectively running the broken system. So we can use package manager to fix other issues if we find any
[10:15] <TJ-> Dysanix: first check it can "ping archive.ubuntu.com"
[10:15] <Dysanix> that's so cool!
[10:15] <Dysanix> I love Linux lol
[10:16] <TJ-> Dysanix: now do "apt update" to fetch the package lists then "apt full-upgrade" to ensure it's up to date
[10:17] <Dysanix> TJ-: All done!
[10:17] <Dysanix> both update & full-upgrade
[10:17] <Dysanix> successfully
[10:19] <TJ-> Dysanix: Right, the last one I want to do is check if any files seem to be missing. I need to write and test a script on my system for that which is likely to need about 10 minutes. The essence of it is it'll read every package file-list from /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list and check each file listed in those <package>.list exists in the file-system. If not, it'll print out names of packages we need to reinstall
[10:19] <TJ-> Dysanix: so, have a break :)
[10:20] <Dysanix> TJ-: You are seriously a hero
[10:20] <Dysanix> Thank you so much for helping me with all of this
[10:20] <Dysanix> Is there any way I can thank you for your efforts? :)
[10:20] <OerHeks> !cookie | TJ-
[10:21] <BugzBunny> I would have of spoken say something other wise
[10:21] <BugzBunny> I know TJ- do something but apparently TJ-  doesn't now wrong
[10:22] <iam> hallo
[10:24] <SlidingHorn> is there a cookie system here I didn't know about??  *angry face*
[10:25] <eraserpencil> thnks
[10:25] <eraserpencil> but whats this errr?
[10:25] <eraserpencil> Can't find a source to download version '1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.10' of 'libirs-export141:amd64'
[10:27] <OerHeks> libirs-export141 is part of bind9
[10:27] <eraserpencil> soooo....
[10:27] <eraserpencil> sorry, I'm looking to solve this error, it's preventing me from downloading some packages from the repo
[10:28] <R13ose> TJ-: hi
[10:28] <SlidingHorn> eraserpencil, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:28] <OerHeks> xenial or artfull?
[10:28] <eraserpencil> 16.04
[10:29] <eraserpencil> 64 bit
[10:29] <TJ-> Dysanix: right, this should work: "  for pkg in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.md5sums; do cat  $pkg | while read sum file; do if [ ! -f "/$file" ]; then echo -e "PACKAGE: $(basename "${pkg%.*}") missing\t\t /$file"; break; fi; done; done |& tee /tmp/problems.log  "
[10:29] <TJ-> Dysanix: it'll take some time to run I think
[10:30] <Dysanix> It finished pretty quickly
[10:30] <Dysanix> PACKAGE: gettext missing		 /usr/share/aclocal/codeset.m4 PACKAGE: intltool missing		 /usr/share/aclocal/intltool.m4 PACKAGE: xfonts-utils missing		 /usr/share/aclocal/fontutil.m4
[10:30] <Dysanix> As in 5 seconds
[10:31] <Dysanix> I am not sure if that's a bad sign?
[10:31] <TJ-> Dysanix: wow, so just a few aclocal files! That's fantastic :D
[10:31] <TJ-> Dysanix: so do "apt install --reinstall gettext intltool xfonts-utils"
[10:32] <Dysanix> Done!
[10:32] <TJ-> Dysanix: so now time to clean up and then do a reboot test...
[10:32] <Dysanix> Alright!
[10:32] <Dysanix> I am seriously really thankful
[10:32] <Dysanix> For all your time
[10:33] <TJ-> Dysanix: ... "exit" to leave chroot then "for n in etc/resolv.conf dev/pts dev sys proc; do sudo umount /target/$n; done"
[10:33] <Dysanix> Done! :)
[10:33] <TJ-> Dysanix: now "sync" to flush to disk
[10:33] <TJ-> Dysanix: then "sudo umount /target" and reboot and test
[10:34] <guiverc> eraserpencil, do you have xenial-security in sources.list?  https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libirs-export141
[10:34] <Dysanix> TJ-: Alright! I am going to be right back!
[10:34] <Dysanix> Hopefully I'll come back with good news!
[10:34]  * SlidingHorn readies the marching band
[10:36] <R13ose> Arggg
[10:37] <akem_> Do i have to do anything before unplugging a USB CD-ROM on Ubuntu - There is no CD inside?
[10:37] <Dysanix> IT WORKS!!
[10:37] <Dysanix> Omg
[10:37] <TJ-> Dysanix: Yay!
[10:38] <Dysanix> You are a magician
[10:38] <TJ-> Dysanix: no more messing though :p
[10:38] <Dysanix> Thank you so much!
[10:38] <Dysanix> I promise I wont ! lol
[10:38] <TJ-> Dysanix: you're welcome... to the power of GNU/Linux  :)
[10:38] <Dysanix> I'll install things through apt-get
[10:38] <mingdao> akem_: no
[10:38] <Dysanix> instead of replacing random stuff myself
[10:39] <kunji> Hi, when my computer (Ubuntu 16.04, default desktop environment) comes back from sleep and the screen is locked it sometimes won't accept my password.  In this case, if I switch to a different tty (via ctrl+alt+f#) and then switch back, then it will accept my password.  Is this a known bug?  It doesn't really bother me much, just wondering why that switch would make it start working again like that.
[10:39] <akem_> Ok thanks mingdao, just to be sure.
[10:39] <Dysanix> TJ-, Do you have your own website?
[10:39] <TJ-> Dysanix: you've still got to sort out getting skype to run but use the factoid and ask here for people who've done it... I think there is a 'snap' package for it
[10:39] <TJ-> Dysanix: I do but it's a bit of a mess right now... in perputatual 'reorg coming soon' mode :p
[10:40] <TJ-> !skype
[10:40] <kunji> TJ-: Hmm, the deb package Microsoft provides directly has always worked for me.  I'm guessing that is what didn't work for Dysanix though?
[10:40] <TJ-> kunji: well, Dysanix copied files from the extract location over the system /usr/bin and /usr/share directory which killed the OS. don't think he'll do that again
[10:41] <TJ-> I don't use Skype so can't talk from experience on best way to install/use it
[10:41] <kunji> TJ-: Ah, I see, just the usual install via dpkg and it should work.
[10:42] <TJ-> ^^^ Dysanix here's an expert on Skype :)
[10:43] <TJ-> right! time for a sunny x-country run with the Huskies, Dysanix I'll leave you to your skype
[10:44] <kunji> TJ-: Meh, I haven't installed it in over a year I think :P, it looks like they do have a snap now, should be as simple as just "sudo snap install skype" if he's on Ubuntu 16.04 or newer, if he's on something older then he may need to install snapd first.
[10:45] <kunji> TJ-: Have fun!
[10:47] <Dysanix_> But yeah I have learned my lesson
[10:47] <Dysanix_> No more messing around in system folders
[10:47] <vacho> how do I make this command run in the background so when I close my terminal window (on mac os x) that is connected through ssh, it will continue to run? npm run watch-poll
[10:48] <s10gopal> what command i should use ?
[10:48] <s10gopal> Bisecting: 1811 revisions left to test after this (roughly 11 steps)
[10:48] <s10gopal> [cbcd4f08aa637b74f575268770da86a00fabde6d] Merge tag 'staging-4.13-rc1' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/staging
[10:53] <Dysanix> TJ-, How did you build your knowledge?
[10:54] <Dysanix> Just messing around or did you get this at school?
[10:59] <akem_> I added my printer MG2900, network printing, i could print the test page, but the printer can also scan, however i think i need to install something separated for that, right?
[10:59] <akem_> In Windows i could directly import scan in gimp, but not on Ubuntu.
[11:00] <akem_> I'm not sure cause it has to scan via the network too, it's not connected on USB.
[11:01] <akem_> nm, i'll check the Ubuntu scanner howto.
[11:05] <akem_> I think it's not so easy i don't have sane server/backend for my scanner.
[11:13] <Pitmaster> Hi guys
[11:13] <zetheroo> what does 'Community-maintained free and open-source software.' mean exactly in relation to the Universe repo?
[11:15] <guiverc> zetheroo, everything in Universe is maintained by the community.  Main is maintained by Canonical employees
[11:15] <zetheroo> What is 'the community'?
[11:16] <guiverc> a high ranking of devs/maintainers is MOTU (master of the universe); or devs who have upload privilege to universe...
[11:17] <guiverc> anyone who joins a project (volunteers) and contributes code... they need to be sponsored by a MOTU
[11:17] <zetheroo> guiverc: I guess I am trying to gauge how trustworthy it is to install software from Universe, especially regarding security updates etc
[11:17] <guiverc> zetheroo, https://community.ubuntu.com/t/developers/27  may provide some clues...
[11:19] <guiverc> its not like anyone can contribute code (good/bad) without peer-support; their are procedures (inc. sponsorship of change) for Ubuntu that [some] other distros don't directly have ..
[11:22] <guiverc> zetheroo, i think Universe is trustyworthy because of its reviews, sponsorship etc.  i'm not a dev/maintainer, and whilst the software is open-source (thus you can do your own audit which applies to others too), its reviewed because of procedures laid down for debian & ubuntu.
[11:22] <zetheroo> sounds good
[11:22] <zetheroo> what about security updates?
[11:22] <guiverc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers  (this contains more; even mentions motu)
[11:24] <OerHeks> What are you trying to say with "what about security updates"
[11:24] <guiverc> security updates are mostly done by canonical & in main. One thing with Universe. Where as MAIN has five years support (for Ubuntu LTS), Universe strictly only needs to have two years (but ideally three).  Hence a flavor Ubuntu possibly won't be as secure as Ubuntu LTS in year 3-5  (flavors contain main code + univers - universe has a shorter guaratee)
[11:24] <zetheroo> OerHeks: are security updates applied to Universe like they are to Main?
[11:25] <OerHeks> depends who writes the update patch, i guess.
[11:26] <zetheroo> guiverc: ok, interesting. 'flavor' Ubuntu is the releases inbetween the LTS releases ... ?
[11:26] <guiverc> flavor = xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu-mate, ubuntu-kylin, ubuntu-gnome...
[11:27] <guiverc> ubuntu-gnome being before 17.10 - its now 'main' Ubuntu
[11:27] <zetheroo> ok
[11:28] <guiverc> but flavors have their next LTS at the two year mark, which provides security if it worries you (16.04 will become 18.04 very soon)
[11:29] <Woodpecker> i cant get my sudoers file to work with /bin/cp
[11:29] <Woodpecker> or anything
[11:29] <Woodpecker> akiva   ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /bin/cp
[11:30] <Woodpecker> i tried that line, and yet I am always prompted for a password, even after restarting
[11:30] <JimBuntu> Woodpecker, are you sure that's the "cp" you are using? Try `which cp`
[11:31] <Woodpecker> hmmmm
[11:31] <Woodpecker> yep
[11:31] <OerHeks> i think you want: ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/cp
[11:31] <Woodpecker> OerHeks: ill give it a shot
[11:32] <Woodpecker> im still being prompted
[11:32] <Woodpecker> do I need restart?
[11:32] <JimBuntu> I use `<username> ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: <commands>`
[11:33] <Woodpecker> JimBuntu: tried that as well. no dice
[11:33] <Woodpecker> unless I have to restart
[11:34] <neildugan> can anyone explain I get this dopey message from postfix... when sending to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I get a error saying "550-Verification failed for<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"
[11:36] <guiverc> zetheroo, as for Universe & flavors.. If you want a definite 2, 3 year support clarification - you have to go to the flavor itself & see what they provide for each release.
[11:37] <zetheroo> guiverc: right. We are sticking to the official Ubuntu.
[11:40] <BugzBunny> TJ-: Why does Rythombox forget music when I log out?
[11:41] <Woodpecker> AHHHHHHH so bloody annoying
[11:43] <Lorra> Hi everybody, I'm using KUbuntu 16.04.04. I was trying to use my bluetooth speaker with KDE5. Association works just fine and the speaker emits its successful associaton tone, but then I cannot change the audio profile to A2DP nor to HSP/HFP. Does anybody have a clue about this? Thank you ^^
[11:43] <JimBuntu> Woodpecker, still not working?
[11:43] <Woodpecker> JimBuntu: no.
[11:44] <JimBuntu> Woodpecker, Ok. Please allow me to start fresh. Did you post a pastebin/etc of your complete sudoers file yet?
[11:46] <Woodpecker>

JimBuntu: sure that would be good. Sec: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/c6PM06oJ/
[11:48] <JimBuntu> My initial suggestion is to remove the line from in the user priv section... make a new line, typed by hand as the last one in the file. Use spaces instead of tabs...
[11:48] <Woodpecker> the only thing I can think of is when I initially editted it, I did so using sudo vim instead of sudo visudo , and had to force a save.
[11:49] <JimBuntu> Have it read... `akiva ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL`
[11:49] <JimBuntu> I edit mine with nano
[11:50] <JimBuntu> save the file, and try using `sudo su -` then please pastebin/etc the terminal session with the command and what happened when you tried.
[11:51] <zetheroo> whats the best/easiest way to browse the Ubuntu repos?
[11:51] <jluc> i like synaptics
[11:52] <Woodpecker> JimBuntu: it just prompted me for my password.
[11:52] <Lorra> zetheroo, jluc I also like synaptic, you may install it doing "sudo apt-get install synaptic" from a terminal
[11:52] <JimBuntu> After you made the new line at the bottom of /etc/sudoers, it asked you for the password when you tried to `sudo su -` ?
[11:53] <neildugan> can anyone tell my why postfix ignores "root<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in both /etc/aliases and /etc/postfix/virtual ?
[11:54] <zetheroo> Lorra,  jluc , thanks, but I am looking for something where I can search for packages on multiple repos - like to see what version of x-package is in Main vs Universe vs Backports ...
[11:57] <Woodpecker> JimBuntu: yep
[11:57] <Woodpecker> JimBuntu: oh wait,
[11:57] <Woodpecker> let me try that again
[11:57] <JimBuntu> May I see a new pastebin/etc of the current /etc/sudoers ?
[11:57] <OerHeks> zetheroo, that does not happen, a package is in main OR universe, and backports are just updates
[11:58] <TJ-> zetheroo: "rmadison <package>"
[11:58] <zetheroo> OerHeks: ok, so the version of PHP for instance doesn't change from one repo to another
[11:59] <OerHeks> indeed
[11:59] <zetheroo> ok
[11:59] <OerHeks> unless you add a PPA *
[11:59] <zetheroo> rigt
[12:02] <TJ-> the major version can change for some important backports, but between release -updates/-security/-proposed it's only minor bug-fix version bumps
[12:02] <jk^> tomreyn, i installed the package, but system still doesn't recognized the printer
[12:02] <jk^> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zgs0C8i4r_wHR5SmjxZ6I3oDMRQIoLxe/view?usp=sharing
[12:02] <jk^> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1zmqNHzIRPCLug3K8D7V1UFvdW3fKgc8O
[12:02] <Woodpecker> JimBuntu: I think that did it.
[12:03] <Woodpecker> JimBuntu: placing the command at the end of the file.
[12:07] <erdem> im looking for a graphical texteditor that is capable of opening large files
[12:07] <erdem> without major slowdowns
[12:07] <erdem> is this possible? any suggestions?
[12:08] <JimBuntu> Woodpecker, Ok. If it is still setup for ALL instead of only cp, you could now try editing it for only the commands you want to be included
[12:08] <Kriss3d> Is there any ubuntu programs that will let me import and sort lots of openvpn profile and let me pick them based on country instead of just listing them like openvpn do ?
[12:09] <JimBuntu> erdem, I think notepadqq will allow you to do this, checking
[12:09] <Woodpecker> JimBuntu: it worked like a charm. thanks
[12:10] <JimBuntu> Woodpecker, you are welcome!
[12:10] <Woodpecker> !cookie | JimBuntu
[12:10] <JimBuntu> erdem, Yes, Notepadqq seems to do this very well.
[12:10] <JimBuntu> lol, thanks!
[12:10] <erdem> JimBuntu, thank you, i will check it out
[12:11] <R13ose> The repeating + sign is annoying
[12:13] <JimBuntu> erdem, I do note that when I opened a 500MB+ file, it slowed down.
[12:13] <erdem> i think i wont open files that large but thank you for letting me know
[12:14] <BillD73> R13ose: See your still having issues. I know you've tried differing kernels.   Also iirc did you attempt to "pop" the key off of the keyboard? did the nipple under the key seem to function?  Ir eally dont know what else to tell ya, you've had some of the brightest here helping you with it
[12:26] <R13ose> BillD73: I did the pop the key off
[12:26] <R13ose> BillD73: this is not happening in bios or grub command line so most likely happens after that
[12:30] <BillD73> R13ose: ok. Have you tried adding a newuser, login as them with a clean desktop env?
[12:30] <TJ-> R13ose: I've been doing some research on the i8042 <> APIC issue; I cannot find any other instances of the same issue or any sensible looking workarounds so far. I'm more convinced than ever its a hardware issue, or the PC firmware is misconfiguring the hardware in some way before the OS starts. Have you tried going into BIOS setup and doing the Restore Factory Defaults option ?
[12:31] <R13ose> BillD73: happens before I login
[12:31] <TJ-> BillD73: it's a problem with the keyboard controller chip (i8042) or the interrupt controller (APIC) generating massive numbers of spurious interrupts
[12:32] <neildugan> when trying to root email set out to me .... I finally get postfix to use the correct <to> address... but now its saying "(delivered to mailbox)"  ... how do I get it to actually do what its told and send it.
[12:32] <R13ose> TJ-: what will restore factory defaults do?
[12:33] <TJ-> R13ose: in general, the PC firmware should specify to the OS how to configure the APIC via ACPI tables, so if there's some change in the way those tables are being interpreted by the kernel version, that could also cause this. Can you try a really old v4.4 kernel?
[12:33] <TJ-> R13ose: Restore factory defaults resets all settings to what the manufacturer thinks they should be
[12:34] <BugzBunny> TJ-: No
[12:35] <R13ose> TJ-: I didn't change anything in bios
[12:35] <BugzBunny> R13ose: The defaults is what ships that manfacture should always work
[12:35] <OerHeks> ineresting, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/28736/what-does-the-i8042-nomux-1-kernel-option-do-during-booting-of-ubuntu
[12:36] <R13ose> TJ-: I could try an old 4.4 kernel but will that really fix this?
[12:37] <TJ->  R13ose the point of testing 4.4 is to find out if it's kernel regression or not.
[12:37] <TJ-> OerHeks: yes, that article is good overview. We used to see these issues alot in the mid 2000s
[12:38] <R13ose> TJ-: let's do it
[12:42] <TJ-> R13ose: going back to kernel command-line options that might help, here's one more you could try: "i8042.nopnp=1" (you can keep the existing debug entries whilst adding that)
[12:44] <R13ose> TJ-: keep or remove unmask?
[12:46] <lapaga> Hello all...i have my panel on the bottom how do you center the items? In Xubuntu you added separators but I do not see a way to do that in Ubuntu 17.10
[12:48] <TJ-> R13ose: keep the other options
[12:49] <akem> lapaga, I think you need gnome-shell-extensions for that.
[12:51] <akem> then you can install "dash to dock", via the gnome website there is a browser module that takes care of that
[12:51] <akem> lapaga, https://extensions.gnome.org
[12:51] <lapaga> will have a look  thanks
[12:51] <akem> Np.
[12:53] <R13ose> TJ-: this isn't happening and all I did was add that option, update grub and not reboot.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:56] <R13ose> Hi BluesKaj
[12:57] <TJ_Remix> R13ose: Did you create a bug report to track this issue? If not, can you do so and let me have the number so we know what has been tried
[12:58] <BugzBunny> How Do I install Spotify?
[12:58] <edunn> Hello, is there someone that can help me with my post? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2388621&p=13754139#post13754139
[12:58] <R13ose> TJ_Remix: I didn't as I don't know how
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hi R13ose
[13:00] <R13ose> BluesKaj: what's up?
[13:00] <TJ_Remix> !bug | R13ose
[13:01] <TJ_Remix> R13ose: you can start with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug
[13:01] <Irritiable|LT> Who here is experienced with setting up a static IP address for local WAN usage between their Ubuntu box and router? (In other words: The equivalent of a static IPv4 address on the WAN; but IPv6 dual-stack.)
[13:02] <kostkon> BugzBunny, sudo snap install spotify
[13:02] <edunn> Is there someone here that can help me with CPAN issues?
[13:03] <R13ose> TJ_Remix: is happening less but still happening.  I will reboot now to see if the option we added helpped or should I file bug report first?
[13:04] <BugzBunny> kostkon: It was already installed
[13:04] <BugzBunny> I forgot
[13:04] <kostkon> BugzBunny, it happens
[13:05] <edunn> Hello, anyone here able to help with CPAN issues?
[13:05] <TJ_Remix> R13ose: do the test but we should still have a bug report to track what is helping and the system hardware, things tried, etc.
[13:06] <R13ose> TJ_Remix: I will.  Can you let me know what to type in there?  I will add in what problems I see.
[13:07] <TJ_Remix> ha, didn't spot my nick has changed... sat in sun and can't see the screen too well
[13:07] <kostkon> !details | edunn
[13:07] <edunn> Can you check my forum post here? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2388621&p=13754139#post13754139
[13:07] <edunn> it has all details
[13:08] <neurre> hi
[13:08] <TJ-> R13ose: create the bug with a title and repeat the title in the description then I'll add accurate details later. "i8042 generating thousands of spurious keypress interrupts" will do as a title
[13:08] <neurre> how do I add domain name search path to resolv.conf?
[13:09] <TJ-> neurre: generally you'd add it through whatever service managed the interface. For a desktop that'd usually be network manager, so edit the connection settings
[13:10] <R13ose> TJ-: great.  I will add in my thoughts now.  I reboot and this is still happening but not as often for some reason
[13:10] <neurre> TJ-, I cannot find setting where to add domain search
[13:10] <TJ-> neurre: for ifupdown, if the interface is specified in /etc/network/interfaces, see "man resolvcong" and the dns-search option
[13:11] <TJ-> neurre: typo, "man resolvconf"
[13:11] <Irritiable|LT> Hello, TJ-.
[13:12] <edunn> ubottu: Can you check my forum post here? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2388621&p=13754139#post13754139 it has all the details
[13:12] <neurre> TJ-, thanks but do you know any more details?
[13:12] <neurre> TJ-, should I edit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail or what?
[13:13] <neurre> looks like tail doesnt even exist
[13:16] <R13ose> TJ-: I have made the bug report.  Let me know if you find this.
[13:18] <neurre> looks like my /etc/resolv.conf says # This file is managed by man:systemd-resolved(8). Do not edit.
[13:19] <xp> un saluto a tutti
[13:20] <edunn> hello, anyone here able to assist with CPAN issue?
[13:21] <Irritiable|LT> edunn: Perl?
[13:21] <yeats> edunn: what's the issue?
[13:22] <edunn> Irritiable|LT: Yes. I am trying to install HaCi and there appear to be several things i need to make sure are installed. When enter "cpan" then do "install (module name)" it gives me errors. I have a forum post with the error of two i tried if that would help.
[13:23] <Irritiable|LT> edunn: apt-get install <package name> I believe.
[13:23] <Irritiable|LT> Oh.
[13:23] <Irritiable|LT> http://www.cpan.org/modules/INSTALL.html
[13:23] <yeats> edunn: the packages are named libwhatever-perl
[13:24] <edunn> Yeats: so what would be CGI::Session?
[13:24] <TJ-> R13ose: what's the bug # or the URL?
[13:25] <R13ose> TJ-: 1761502
[13:25] <yeats> edunn: libcgi-session-perl
[13:25] <TJ-> neurre: ahhh, so, you'll need to edit the connection config file, which if this is 17.10 would, I think, be via netplan.io, which you should find in /etc/netplan/ as a yaml file
[13:25] <edunn> yeats: have you ever heard of HaCi? http://haci.larsux.de/wiki/HaCiInstall
[13:25] <yeats> edunn: prefix with 'lib', '::' becomes '-', suffix with '-perl'
[13:26] <yeats> edunn: no I haven't but I'll take a look
[13:26] <TJ-> R13ose: thanks, I'll assign myself to it and the other details later today when I'm out of the sun and can see the screen a bit better!
[13:26] <edunn> yeats: can i PM you for further assistance with this?
[13:26] <yeats> edunn: also, if you're comfortable with the consequences (e.g., the possibility of a broken system, you can force CPAN to install something)
[13:26] <yeats> edunn: I prefer to work here in the channel
[13:27] <neurre> TJ-, I have /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml which says network: version: 2 renderer: NetworkManager
[13:27] <neurre> # Let NetworkManager manage all devices on this system
[13:27] <edunn> yeats: ok, no problem. I am not super comfortable. I can follow guides and try and explore but thats about my limit. I am a net admin..
[13:27] <neurre> so.. is it networkmanager?
[13:27] <R13ose> TJ-: I only saw problems now when the command line login came up first which always come up first before Ubuntu loads Gui login.
[13:27] <R13ose> TJ-: thanks.  Does it matter if I am using Kubuntu or not?
[13:28] <TJ-> neurre: ahhh, so that means N.M. is using systemd-resolved for DNS, so what I said originally. Use the N.M. Connection Editor to change the IPv4 tab settings to specify the search domain
[13:28] <yeats> edunn: you mentioned a forum post with the error you're seeing?
[13:29] <TJ-> R13ose: no, Kubuntu is part of the ubuntu family, but your issue is with the linux kernel which is common to everything
[13:30] <edunn> yeats: yes it was in cpan but the apt-get install appears to be working now. I will continue the install of everything. If i have anymore issues ill reach out but my ultimate goal is to try and get HaCi installed on this server
[13:30] <R13ose> TJ-: thanks
[13:30] <yeats> edunn: ok - good
[13:30] <neurre> TJ-, exactly where can I find such dialog?
[13:30] <edunn> yeats: the post is https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2388621&p=13754139#post13754139
[13:31] <yeats> edunn: note that not all modules in CPAN have been packaged for debian/ubuntu, so you may still need CPAN before it's all done
[13:31] <TJ-> neurre: the network icon in the task-bar, right-click, choose (near the bottom) "Edit Connections..."
[13:31] <TJ-> neurre: select the connection, goto the IPv4 tab, then set the Search Domain field and save
[13:31] <yeats> edunn: oh - try 'sudo apt install make'
[13:31] <edunn> yeats: ok ill keep that in mind.
[13:31] <neurre> TJ- hmm so I am using gnome desktop, thats probably why I have trouble locating it
[13:32] <yeats> edunn: and as for "Math::BigInt v1.87
[13:32] <TJ-> neurre: gnome-desktop should have the nm-applet icon in its taskbar
[13:32] <yeats> edunn: " it thinks "v1.87" is a package name - not sure how to specify the version on the CPAN cli
[13:33] <edunn> yeats: i believe i got it, CPAN picked it up after i installed "make"
[13:34] <yeats> edunn: looks like CPAN is only going to install the latest version of whatever the package is (which is usually what you want)
[13:34] <yeats> edunn: if an app requires a specific old version to run, I would probably stop trusting the app :-/
[13:35] <edunn> yeats: yes, i am ok with that. My biggest thing after all the installs is setting up mysql. The install guide has a walkthrough but the top user copy/paste doesnt work because the password field isnt name password anymore.
[13:36] <neurre> TJ-, am I anywhere right / close? https://imgur.com/a/dl97y
[13:37] <TJ-> neurre: I don't use Gnome so not sure, but try pressing the Cog/Gear icon next to the connection, that's probably the settings dialog trigger
[13:38] <neurre> there is no setting for search
[13:38] <neurre> there is DNS and Routes
[13:38] <neurre> but I suppose I should be able to edit this with shell / config files as well
[13:38] <aLeSD_> hi all
[13:39] <TJ-> neurre: Sounds like more Gnome dumbing down then. It's be under DNS though, or should be
[13:39] <neurre> TJ- This is no longer gnome
[13:40] <Irritiable|LT> neurre: GNome3? GNome4?
[13:40] <aLeSD_> how could I make my virtual machines start on boot ?
[13:40] <Irritiable|LT> aLeSD: A script?
[13:40] <neurre> Irritiable|LT, I switched my desktop to "Ubuntu"
[13:40] <Irritiable|LT> aLeSD_: A script?
[13:40] <TJ-> neurre: you could use the command-line... run "nmtui", select the connection, navigate to the IPv4 CONFIGURATION line and select the "Show" 'button' next to it, there you'll find the "Search Domains..." edit box
[13:40] <neildugan> aLeSD_, there are many ways, but what type of VM are you talking about
[13:40] <aLeSD_> I followed some tutorials but it seems not workig
[13:41] <aLeSD_> neildugan, virtualbox vm
[13:41] <aLeSD_> Irritiable|LT, thanks. Do you know if ubuntu has already something buildin ?
[13:42] <aLeSD_> I was following this : https://askubuntu.com/questions/404665/how-to-start-virtual-box-machines-automatically-when-booting
[13:42] <neurre> TJ-, thanks, nmtui had everything
[13:42] <aLeSD_> but no success
[13:42] <neurre> TJ-, funny why they dumb the GUI down
[13:42] <Irritiable|LT> aLeSD_: As neildugan pointed out: There are a lot of ways to have a program / service execute upon start-up.
[13:42] <TJ-> neurre: I dispair of it in GUIs, I stick to terminal/shell nowadays since I can rely on it
[13:42] <neurre> well nmtui is almost GUI
[13:43] <neildugan> aLeSD_, can you start your VM via the terminal?
[13:43] <neurre> should be trivial to maintain a real GUI for that
[13:43] <TJ-> neurre: it's TUI ... Text User Interface (uses ncurses library)
[13:43] <aLeSD_> neildugan, yes
[13:43] <neurre> i know
[13:43] <TJ-> neurre: there is a real GUI, but your "Ubuntu" has removed the nm-applet that accesses it
[13:43] <neildugan> aLeSD_, do you need it to start at boot or at login?
[13:43] <aLeSD_> neildugan, boot
[13:44] <aLeSD_> actually vboxautostart-service is missing in my system
[13:44] <Irritiable|LT> aLeSD_: He's asking if you want Virtualbox started /after/ the desktop is loaded or before it ever hits that point in the execution train.
[13:44] <Irritiable|LT> aLeSD_: Virtualbox 5.2.8 ?
[13:45] <aLeSD_> Irritiable|LT, 5.1.34_Ubuntu r121010
[13:47] <neildugan> aLeSD_, this https://askubuntu.com/questions/886620/how-can-i-execute-command-on-startup-rc-local-alternative-on-ubuntu-16-10      says that if a file '/etc/rc.local' exists and is executable it will be run at boot... you could put your command to start the VM in there
[13:47] <Irritiable|LT> aLeSD_: No. What version of Virtualbox are you running? Lol! Virtualbox 5.2.8 or less?
[13:47] <Irritiable|LT> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[13:48] <aLeSD_> ok thanks
[13:51] <Irritiable|LT> Welcome, aLeSD_.
[13:51] <Irritiable|LT> You should be able to uninstall whatever version you have (apt-get remove virtualbox*) and install it manually via the terminal.
[13:51] <neildugan> aLeSD_, if the test works can you let me know
[13:52] <Irritiable|LT> neildugan: Virtualbox, IIRC, has an auto-start service already.
[13:52] <Irritiable|LT> (v5.2.8 anyway)
[13:52] <neildugan> Irritiable|LT, oh
[13:57] <edunn> yeats: can you tell me the proper MYSQL command for this: https://pastebin.com/vPmH0LMs
[13:57]  * OerHeks wonders why running a gui program on boot
[14:00] <akik> OerHeks: virtualbox vms can be started headless
[14:04] <Irritiable|LT> akik: He wants to auto-start it upon turning his box on.
[14:04] <Irritiable|LT> EG: Turn desktop/laptop on -> Virtualbox auto-starts
[14:06] <R13ose> TJ-: to let you know this might have gone away unsure.
[14:07] <kus_ubuntui686> hi guys, how do I create a gpg key over ssh? I am on artful https://hastebin.com/raw/pesuvujoyu
[14:09] <Irritiable|LT> Artful? Lubuntu? :D
[14:11] <kus_ubuntui686> Irritiable|LT: no, Ubuntu.
[14:11] <hke> kus_ubuntui686 Install and run haveged on the machine you're trying to generate keys on.
[14:11] <kus_ubuntui686> ok
[14:12] <tkzv> Hello, what is the correct way to get a user's UID from Systemd scripts? I need it for starting Docker.
[14:14] <kus_ubuntui686> hke same error https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Wh~Sv8PdJpPjRlgrjYWJzw/raw
[14:15] <kus_ubuntui686> gpg: agent_genkey failed: End of file Key generation failed: End of file
[14:15] <Irritiable|LT> ksk: http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-broadband-fibre-help/61192-ipv6-configuration-netgear-d7000.html#post468190
[14:16] <chaignc> Hey guys, what is the standard way of pushing a critical security update on all linux distro for an opensource software ?
[14:17] <Hulio> anyone know how to disable sleep ?
[14:18] <Hulio> i don't want it to go to lock screen
[14:18] <Hulio> can it be done?
[14:18] <TJ-> R13ose: if it has gone away that is good news!
[14:18] <Hulio> If i am away of pc, it will lock, please show me how to disable that
[14:18] <TJ-> R13ose: the important quesiton then is do you know why!?
[14:19] <R13ose> TJ-: the + signs still showed up in command line as that login shows up first before Ubuntu loads into GUI login screen.
[14:19] <R13ose> TJ-: I have no clue why this might have gone away.
[14:20] <OerHeks> Hulio, depends what ubuntu flavor, look into systemsettings > energy ( or power)
[14:20] <Irritiable|LT> Hulio: systemd disable sleep-hybrid;
[14:20] <Irritiable|LT> Hulio: systemctl disable systemd-hybrid-sleep *
[14:21] <Hulio> Irritiable|LT, with the * at the end too?
[14:21] <Irritiable|LT> Full command: sudo systemctl disable systemd-hybrid-sleep && sleep.target suspend.target && hybrid-sleep.target
[14:21] <ecormier> Hulio: it is easily doable on a lightweight (read do-it-yourself) DE, but on the larger DEs it's entirely dependant on what they let you do
[14:21] <Irritiable|LT> Hulio: No. IRC and me fixing my typo. :D
[14:21] <Hulio> oh
[14:22] <Irritiable|LT> To re-enable: sudo systemctl enable <service>
[14:22] <kus_ubuntui686> what DE do you use hulio? is it gnome?
[14:22] <Hulio> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[14:23] <Hulio> Irritiable|LT, sleep.target: command not found
[14:23] <Irritiable|LT> Hulio: Oh. Try this utility then.... Use BUM
[14:23] <Irritiable|LT> Hulio: sudo apt-get install BUM
[14:23] <Irritiable|LT> (Boot-up manager)
[14:23] <Irritiable|LT> GUI based interface that shows descriptions / ALL services
[14:23] <OerHeks> no need for that, just go into systemsettings
[14:23] <Hulio> E: Unable to locate package BUM
[14:23] <Irritiable|LT> Also: I'd check in with systemd-analyze blame AND systemd-analyze time (to help cut down on unnused services).
[14:23] <Irritiable|LT> O_o
[14:23] <Irritiable|LT> Hmm.
[14:24] <OerHeks> installing something that is already available, not a good advice
[14:24] <Hulio> wow is that complicated ? :)
[14:24] <Irritiable|LT> Hulio: No. BUM's simple. Not sure why it's saying it can't find BUM.
[14:24] <Hulio> in windows, all i do is go setting set 'never sleep'
[14:24] <Irritiable|LT> Hulio: Entirely different OS.
[14:25] <ecormier> Hulio: if you're not concerned with local security, just disable user login in your DE and be done with it
[14:25] <OerHeks> Hulio, in ubuntu you set energy timer settings to 'never'
[14:25] <Hulio> well, how do i disable ?
[14:25] <cvdd43> is there any girl here
[14:25] <Hulio> oh okay
[14:25] <Irritiable|LT> Hulio: Do you have Canonical Partners PPA enabled?
[14:26] <OerHeks> cvdd43, sure, butthis is not a dating channel
[14:26] <kus_ubuntui686> haha I thought this was because of the canonical partners comment
[14:26] <kus_ubuntui686> I was going to say that's not what partner means
[14:26] <R13ose> TJ-: could your commands in grub have helped?
[14:26] <Irritiable|LT> Hulio: https://www.devmanuals.net/install/ubuntu/ubuntu-16-04-LTS-Xenial-Xerus/how-to-install-bum.html -- sudo apt-get install bum
[14:26] <Hulio> Irritiable|LT, i got it
[14:26] <Hulio> it is in the System Setting
[14:26] <Irritiable|LT> :)
[14:26] <Irritiable|LT> Hulio: Ahh.
[14:26] <TJ-> R13ose: maybe the last one you added is solving it?
[14:26] <Hulio> i can do that with their UI
[14:26] <Hulio> :)
[14:27] <Irritiable|LT> You have BUM package installed already?
[14:27] <Irritiable|LT> Awesome! :)
[14:27] <Hulio> Thanks though
[14:27] <Hulio> it's 'Brightness & Lock' setting
[14:27] <Irritiable|LT> It's actually in a config file somewhere; GUI programs just 'make it easier' (I guess).
[14:28] <Irritiable|LT> kus_ubuntui686: Lol
[14:32] <konrados> Hi!
[14:33] <konrados> In a pc with ubuntu, which isn't mine, I can see the mysqld process. While I do know how to stop it, I have a different question - what is it doing there? What installed it and needs it? How to check it?
[14:33] <konrados> It's a pc for a typical home usage
[14:33] <konrados> Like browsing facebook and ... the like.
[14:33] <Irritiable|LT> konrados: MySQL? Probably shipped with the OS for something else (it is in and of itself a dependency).
[14:34] <tkzv> Correct answer was `/usr/bin/id -u username`
[14:34] <Deknos> konrados, it may be something like a file indexer like with KDE and baloo
[14:34] <konrados> Deknos: baloo - yeah, I remember that... sec...
[14:35] <konrados> when I killed that on my pc it became 2x as fast :)
[14:36] <skinux> I need a file manager that will let me type in search query and it will search current and child directories recursively for any matches.
[14:36] <Deknos> depends on the version. it became a lot faster, but there may be other indexer programs which use that.
[14:36] <konrados> Deknos: - how do I know if it's running, is this simply a 'baloo' process?
[14:36] <Deknos> ps aux | grep  -i baloo
[14:36] <konrados> ok, sek
[14:37] <Deknos> otherwise look with netstat -tupen and tulpen which process is connected to your mysqld instance.
[14:37] <R13ose> TJ-: maybe, how do we check?  Why would +'s happen in command line?
[14:38] <TJ-> R13ose: not sure, unless all this testing has nudged something.
[14:38] <Deknos> bye
[14:41] <R13ose> TJ-: maybe but you can say that in your updates on the bug.
[14:46] <usrshv> hi! why when i commented out all the parameters of the /etc/default/tlp, but frequency scaling.. i won some Celsius grades on my laptop! Just with even only compositing off and scaling at 800 MHz per core (0 and 1) this was at 70C under long load. now some about 68C. Now (at chat) it is about 53C
[14:46] <TJ-> R13ose: I will. If the problem returns then put a comment on the bug and we'll gather more info
[14:47] <R13ose> TJ-: sure and maybe others have comments as well
[14:56] <Jonathan_> Hello guys I am trying to install Ubuntu on Windows 10. Before that guides tell me I should shrink (make up) space for Ubuntu. I currently have 4 partitions (C, D, E, F), which one should I shrink?
[14:57] <Irritiable|LT> Jonathan_: Whichever you want to install the Ubuntu distro on.
[14:57] <Irritiable|LT> ~25GB of space or more.
[14:57] <Irritiable|LT> Bare-bones is close to 15GB.
[14:57] <Irritiable|LT> Do not shrink more than 50% or you'll booger up Windows' partition.
[14:57] <dragonbreath> Hey guys!
[14:57] <Irritiable|LT> Hi, dragonbreath.
[14:57] <dragonbreath> Trying to setup disk monitoring using SNMP
[14:58] <dragonbreath> in snmpd.conf I've got disk / 100000 and /mnt/data 100000
[14:58] <dragonbreath> doesn't work though
[14:58] <dragonbreath> the result is: multiple paths with /mnt/data
[14:59] <dragonbreath> I haven't found a clear answer on forums on internet
[14:59] <dragonbreath> the trustworthy IRC is my last resort :)
[14:59] <Jonathan_> Irritiable|LT: the two of them are "primary partitions", so it really doesn't matter which one I choose?
[15:00] <Irritiable|LT> Jonathan_: I don't see why it would.
[15:10] <psypriest> Hello have a problem, I have a post about it. Can I ask you guys to read it?   I desperately need help        https://askubuntu.com/questions/1022121/ubuntu-16-04-no-ethernet-cable-and-system-not-detecting-wifi-paired-with-low
[15:17] <OerHeks> the only solution would be an ethernet cable ..
[15:18] <Irritiable|LT> psypriest: How 'desperate?' :D
[15:18] <OerHeks> to determin manually what packages you would need, takes such huge effort
[15:18] <Irritiable|LT> I have a lonely package.
[15:18] <Irritiable|LT> LOL wrong channel
[15:20] <psypriest> Irritable | LT: will blow u for a solution :)
[15:20] <OerHeks> for the graphcs issue, you could try nomoeset, but it is a wild guess without proper info
[15:20] <OerHeks> ..
[15:21] <OerHeks> please keep this channel family friendly, thanks
[15:21] <psypriest> Ohh so sorry, I am desperate, very
[15:22] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[15:22] <Irritiable|LT> psypriest: I thought this was #winapi; sorry.
[15:23] <psypriest> cant i download something on a usb and load the required packages that way?
[15:24] <MetaRa1n> Hellp
[15:24] <MetaRa1n> Sigyn
[15:24] <MetaRa1n> You Say in Russia?
[15:26] <zack_s_> for unkown reason I cannot ping any server in my local network
[15:27] <zack_s_> from a certain machine, call it A
[15:27] <zack_s_> however, i can ping A from all other machines
[15:27] <Irritiable|LT> zack_s_: Virtualbox or a local install?
[15:27] <zack_s_> Irritiable|LT: I use HyperV
[15:28] <zack_s_> all the other machine are also on hyperV
[15:28] <zack_s_> and they work without a problem
[15:28] <Irritiable|LT> HyperV?
[15:29] <Irritiable|LT> A VM, okay.
[15:29] <zack_s_> a vm
[15:29] <OerHeks> hyperv issue, not ubuntu
[15:31] <zack_s_> Irritiable|LT: I get always "unkown host"
[15:31] <psypriest> OerHeks: Since running lsmod and lspci doesnt show the wireless card i was wondierng if I could download the driver for the wireless card I could solve it]
[15:31] <zack_s_> from the other machines, I can ping A without any problem
[15:31] <OerHeks> psypriest, if lspci or lsusb does not show the card, no way to tell what you need. hook it up on wired networking, and updat
[15:31] <zack_s_> the dns server I have listed in /etc/network/interfaces is the same on all machines
[15:32] <Irritiable|LT> zack_s_: I don't know. I don't use virtual machines. Sorry.
[15:32] <psypriest> ok
[15:32] <zack_s_> I want to know, whethere there are some checks I can do
[15:32] <psypriest> can i go over the issue if i install windows?
[15:33] <Darkfire2018> moin
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> !english | Darkfire2018
[15:35] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: is that in reply to "moin"?
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: moin is often used on german joins
[15:36] <Darkfire2018> hallo or good evening
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> Darkfire2018: welcome, how can we help you?
[15:36] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: moin is internationally accepted generic hello on IRC since the dawn of the nets
[15:36] <blackflow> if you have a problem with that, you have a serious problem :)
[15:36] <BlaQMagiK> how do i run a .bash script in 14.04
[15:37] <BluesKaj> moin is supposed to mean good morning, but it's supposedly internet "cool talk"
[15:37] <blackflow> more like timezone agnostic, rather than "cool"
[15:37] <BluesKaj> morning isnt agnostic
[15:37] <Darkfire2018> I have a exfat card and I  will change the dateisystem to fat
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: feel free to discuss it in #ubuntu-discuss
[15:37] <blackflow> BluesKaj: right, that's why I'm talking about moin, not morning.
[15:38] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: sure, sure. I was just.... apaled that someone would object like that to "moin".
[15:38] <Darkfire2018> moin is the greetingform in Northgermany
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> Darkfire2018: you can use gparted if you like?
[15:38] <Darkfire2018> like Hamburg or Kiel
[15:39] <Darkfire2018> year thanks
[15:39] <BluesKaj> oh my appalled at being prompted to use proper english in an international forum
[15:39] <Darkfire2018> gparted?
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | Darkfire2018
[15:39] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: Type ./bashscriptfile
[15:39] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: Make sure the *.sh (bash) script is marked as EXECUTABLE.
[15:39] <Irritiable|LT> chmod +x
[15:40] <BlaQMagiK> Irritiable|LT: i just figured that part out, i was missing the proper exec rights, thanks :)
[15:40] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: EG: ~./foo.sh
[15:40] <Irritiable|LT> Welcome. :)
[15:40] <blackflow> BluesKaj: you're right. I forgot this is #ubuntu.
[15:40] <Irritiable|LT> [10:36:06] <Darkfire2018> hallo or good evening
[15:40] <Irritiable|LT> Morning.
[15:40] <Irritiable|LT> Darkfire2018: You're wanting to format a flash drive?
[15:41] <Irritiable|LT> You can use "dd" or if you prefer visual programs: gparted or gdisk
[15:41] <Darkfire2018> yeas a Flashdrive with 64GB but it shows 59 GB
[15:42] <Glorfindel> how do I add user glorfindel to the sudoers file?
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> !users | Glorfindel
[15:42] <Glorfindel> !sudo
[15:43] <Glorfindel> thanks
[15:43] <BlaQMagiK> does anyone know how to install "HTML::Entities" i tried in cpan but it fails
[15:44] <Irritiable|LT> [10:41:52] <Darkfire2018> yeas a Flashdrive with 64GB but it shows 59 GB
[15:45] <Irritiable|LT> My 8.2GB does that. It's normal. I forget what the reasoning is. Something about the MBR / GPT sucking up space.
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> !tab | Irritiable|LT instead of copy paste the whole line please
[15:46] <BlaQMagiK> does anyone know how to install "HTML::Entities" i tried in cpan but it fails, its there a apt-get install file i can download?
[15:47] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: No idea.
[15:47] <Irritiable|LT> lotuspsychje: I don't use tab.
[15:48] <Irritiable|LT> Client specific; not sure how you're implying it's IRC server based (nonsense rubbish).
[15:49] <Irritiable|LT> Darkhero: Open GParted -> Devices -> Find your flash drive -> Delete partition table (apply) -> Create new partition (GPT / Ext4) -> Format (1MB -> Max)
[15:49] <Irritiable|LT> That should 'fix' it.
[15:54] <BlaQMagiK> Irritiable|LT: can you check the log on this, i dont see what i am missing but i dont have an experienced eye ether: https://pastebin.com/ia3jD7Zk
[15:55] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: I'm no pro myself. :)
[15:55] <BlaQMagiK> better than me sir
[15:55] <Irritiable|LT> Should I call you, Evan?
[15:55] <BlaQMagiK> np
[15:55] <Irritiable|LT> /bin/sh: 1: cc: not found
[15:55] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: Whatever program "cc" is: It's saying it's not found.
[15:56] <BlaQMagiK> lol, got no clue.. FML
[15:56] <Irritiable|LT> cc / gcc
[15:56] <Irritiable|LT> https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1161860.html
[15:56] <Irritiable|LT> cc's supposed to be some sort of symlink (shortcut) to gcc compiler, I'm guessing.
[15:56] <Irritiable|LT> "While using GNU+Linux (like Ubuntu) consider cc and gcc to be synonyms for each other."
[15:58] <BlaQMagiK> do i have to install those?
[15:59] <BlaQMagiK> got it
[15:59] <BlaQMagiK> apt-get install gcc
[16:00] <monk12> Hey all, is a ssh syntax question fine to ask here? (#ssh seems kinda dead)
[16:00] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: Sorry. Arguing about C++. :s
[16:00] <BlaQMagiK> fixed problem, re-ran the cpan install and it worked
[16:00] <Irritiable|LT> Welcome, BlaQMagiK. ;0
[16:00] <Irritiable|LT> ;) *
[16:00] <BlaQMagiK> thanks sir
[16:00] <Irritiable|LT> Reward yourself, Evan, by listening to this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTW7Pd1vqc
[16:00] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: Don't forget to install OpenGL!
[16:01] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: https://medium.com/@Plimsky/how-to-install-a-opengl-environment-on-ubuntu-e3918cf5ab6c -- OpenGL
[16:01] <Irritiable|LT> Ubuntu doesn't ship with DirectX (obviously); and AFAIK does not ship with OpenGL by default.
[16:02] <Irritiable|LT> You're probably playing on some default dummy VGA adapter (horrible).
[16:03] <BlaQMagiK> i am not using the GUI, i am doing it all via CLI
[16:03] <BlaQMagiK> now apache wont start because of something else...
[16:03] <BlaQMagiK> errr
[16:03] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: I meant for general use. ;)
[16:03] <BlaQMagiK> ah ok
[16:03] <BlaQMagiK> ill keep note of it, but CLI is fine for me right now
[16:03] <Irritiable|LT> I experience screen tearing (BAD) without OpenGL installed (Intel HD 505 graphics).
[16:03] <Irritiable|LT> The terminal is still running under Linux's desktop environment.
[16:04] <Irritiable|LT> Kill lightdm and you'll see your logon screen reduce to *strictly* a CLI.
[16:04] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: they might not be using a desktop
[16:04] <Irritiable|LT> nacc: The moon might not be where you think it's at right now either.
[16:04] <Irritiable|LT> However possible: Doubtful.
[16:05] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: just stick to support please, not guessing at other user's configs
[16:05] <skupra> https://skupra.org
[16:06] <dic> hello, need a hand over network configurations, have a l2tp server running on ubuntu but cant figure out why the clients are isolated between them but can acess the internet from origin, can someone give me a hand
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> skupra: no advertising here please
[16:06] <BlaQMagiK> Irritiable|LT: everything looks like it is running but my .conf file has an error  with this line "PerlRequire   /var/www/HaCi/etc/startup.pl"
[16:06] <Irritiable|LT> nacc: I wasn't guessing anything. Logical deduction. If you can do calculus: I can only logically deduce you know arithmetic.
[16:07] <Irritiable|LT> If he can't do algebra: Odds are: He's learning arthimetic.
[16:07] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: Hold on. G/F walked in
[16:07] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: please stop. just help people and move on.
[16:08] <dic> hello, need a hand over network configurations, have a l2tp server running on ubuntu but cant figure out why the clients are isolated between them but can acess the internet from origin, can someone give me a hand
[16:10] <Irritiable|LT> BlaQMagiK: Sorry. Girlfriend wanted me to queue up a movie we watched last night on Netflix.
[16:10] <Irritiable|LT> "Patchwork." Lol. Sick, but unique movie. :0
[16:10] <Irritiable|LT> :) *
[16:10] <Irritiable|LT> You didn't need to PM me, BlaQMagiK. I didn't quit typing / helping 'cause nacc. Just ignore him.
[16:10] <Irritiable|LT> I'm not getting paid to help anyone here. He might be getting paid $$$, but I'm not.
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Irritiable|LT
[16:10] <Irritiable|LT> Free country, free channel. Feel free to +b me and let the remaining 1.6k users see.
[16:10] <Irritiable|LT> Boy cotting seems to be in high demand.
[16:11] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: please stay ontopic, that's all I asked.
[16:11] <Irritiable|LT> I see it now: "Ubuntu supports attacking persons for helping others."
[16:11] <Irritiable|LT> I think anonymous likes to dox people.
[16:11] <Irritiable|LT> Anyway...
[16:11] <OerHeks> Irritiable|LT, please move that to #ubuntu-offtopic.. and stop the rant
[16:11] <Irritiable|LT> Not threatning, just saying what I see on bad sites.
[16:11] <Irritiable|LT> [11:08:45] <BlaQMagiK> hello
[16:11] <Irritiable|LT> [11:09:15] <BlaQMagiK> im heading to grab a bit, be back shortly... hope you can help with my apache issue.. i believe it might be the last thing on my issue list.. lol
[16:12] <Irritiable|LT> Speaking of help: Anyone here familiar with IPv6 and static IP addresses for the intranet (local machine <-> router)? Also known as: Local-only link?
[16:12] <Irritiable|LT> Link-local only * FE08
[16:13] <Irritiable|LT> Nobody? :|
[16:13] <OerHeks> ask your real question and find out?
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> Irritiable|LT: see !patience and perhaps also visit ##networking ?
[16:21] <nicomachus> anyone wanna help me run down a dpkg error? Trying to update an RPI running Mate 16.04 and getting dpkg errors from a pre-removal script, I think: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wBwJtjzN4R/
[16:21] <nicomachus> tried a reboot, tried apt clean, tried dpkg --configure -a.
[16:24] <nacc> nicomachus: LP: #1760128
[16:24] <nacc> nicomachus: if i had to guess?
[16:25] <nacc> nicomachus: lots of similar reports, not sure if any have a workaround
[16:25] <Irritiable|LT> [11:13:55] <OerHeks> ask your real question and find out?
[16:25] <Irritiable|LT> That was a real question. If you don't see the question: You don't know the answer.
[16:25] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: you asked a poll, which is not a support question for this channel.
[16:25] <nicomachus> Irritiable|LT: That wasn't a real question.
[16:26] <nicomachus> I'm familiar with IPv6! Problem solved! NEXT
[16:26] <Irritiable|LT> Sweet!
[16:26] <nacc> nicomachus: i'm seeing if you can force dpkg to ignore the prerm failure
[16:26] <Irritiable|LT> Are you familiar with Netgear / Nighthawk series, nicomachus?
[16:26] <Irritiable|LT> "Fixed" isn't exactly a protocol. Support pages don't explain anything but how to navigate to IPv6.
[16:26] <nicomachus> Irritiable|LT: no, I already answered your question.
[16:26] <Irritiable|LT> Correct. Now there is a following question, since you allegedly knew the first.
[16:26] <nicomachus> Irritiable|LT: and I haven't seen you mention Ubuntu once, which means you're in the wrong channel.
[16:26] <Irritiable|LT> That's how this works.
[16:27] <nicomachus> Irritiable|LT: /join ##networking
[16:27] <Irritiable|LT> nicomachus: If you cannot set up a router: What am I going to set up on Ubuntu? Nothing?
[16:27] <nacc> nicomachus: i think you could try to force remove avahi-dnsconfd (i would --dry-run to make sure it doesn't break other packages) and then reinstall it?
[16:27] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: router setup is not ontopic for this channel.
[16:27] <Irritiable|LT> Your logic leads into a path of: Disconnect from the internet and then what?
[16:27] <Irritiable|LT> nacc: I wish it were that simple.
[16:27] <nicomachus> nacc: what does the package do? just DNS?
[16:27] <TempleOS_fan> Disconnect from the internet and run over CIA ninjas with your car (they glow in the dark)
[16:27] <Irritiable|LT> You see. There's hardware here and an OS and another piece of ROM software and hardware.
[16:28] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: what is your ubuntu support question?
[16:28] <nicomachus> Irritiable|LT: set up your router, then come back here and ask your ubuntu questions.
[16:28] <Irritiable|LT> They're really tightly knit together. Before someone says: "Oh! Just go to XYZ." I want to ensure you know what an X is.
[16:28] <nacc> nicomachus: i believe that particular package passes dns server back to resolvconf for avahi
[16:28] <Irritiable|LT> How does one enable a static IPv6 IP address on the intranet connecting to the router? Pretty sure it was asked earlier.
[16:29] <Irritiable|LT> nicomachus: If the router wasn't set up: How would I be here? LOL
[16:29] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: what version of ubuntu?
[16:29] <Irritiable|LT> 17.10
[16:29] <Irritiable|LT> NetworkManager service provides IPv4/IPv6 dual-stack. Great.
[16:29] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-ipv6-networking-configuration/
[16:29] <Irritiable|LT> I'm more accustomed to Windows, subnet masking and IPv4. Not IPv6.
[16:29] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: there are probably many other examples
[16:30] <Irritiable|LT> "Prefix" in said GUI menu refers to the FE08 or the shorthand /64?
[16:30] <Irritiable|LT> Seeing as how that's router dependent: It seems you're back at square one
[16:30] <Irritiable|LT> So.
[16:30] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: how what is router dependent?
[16:30] <Irritiable|LT> Anyone here familiar with IPv6?
[16:30] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: are you saying you don't know how IPv6 addresses are written?
[16:31] <Irritiable|LT> nacc: Very poorly: I have an idea.
[16:31] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: in which case, ##networking, as nicomachus said
[16:31] <Irritiable|LT> Okay, thank you.
[16:31] <nacc> Irritiable|LT: just like configuring IPv4 statically, the presumption is you know what static address you want to use in any configuration environment.
[16:34] <nicomachus> nacc: well I added myself to that bug report, so I'll follow there. This device IS my DNS for my home network, so rather critical for me. :D
[16:34] <nacc> nicomachus: right, but you should be able to purge and reinstall the package, I think
[16:34] <nicomachus> let's see
[16:34] <nacc> nicomachus: but again, not sure you want to :) i'd check what the package fixes or wait till it updates
[16:34] <nacc> s/it/the bug/
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: did you try dpkg -P ?
[16:35] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: what does the -P flag to?
[16:35] <nicomachus> do
[16:35] <nacc> since the prerm fails, you'll need to probably pass some --force option
[16:35] <nacc> nicomachus: purge
[16:35] <nicomachus> ah
[16:35] <nicomachus> looks like a simple purge of the avahi-dnsconfd package would also remove ubuntu-mate-core* which seems a bit excessive.
[16:36] <nacc> nicomachus: ah ok, that's what i wasn't sure about -- there are no reverse-dependencies in 18.04, but i don't haver a 16.04 handy
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: found this too, not sure how they solved https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/apt-upgrade-and-apt-get-clean-broken/16276/18
[16:37] <nicomachus> glad I did a --dry-run. :)
[16:37] <nacc> nicomachus: yeah that's why i suggested that, good practice whenever purging/removing manually (-s to apt)
[16:40] <nicomachus> well, I guess I'm waiting for a fix then. Thanks fellas.
[16:41] <nacc> nicomachus: any chance you can run the prerm in bash -x ?
[16:41] <psypriest>   https://askubuntu.com/questions/1022121/ubuntu-16-04-no-ethernet-cable-and-system-not-detecting-wifi-paired-with-low have access to ether net cable now what do i do
[16:41] <nicomachus> nacc: sure
[16:41] <psypriest> what commands?
[16:41] <nacc> nicomachus: it should be in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ iirc
[16:42] <nacc> nicomachus: and pastebin what is actually failing
[16:42] <nicomachus> nacc: yep I see it there. so just 'bash -x avahi-dnsconfd.postrm'?
[16:43] <nicomachus> err prerm not postrm
[16:43] <nacc> nicomachus: yeah, i think so (prerm, for sure) ... it will run, but in theory it already has
[16:43] <nicomachus> dpkg-maintscript-helper: error: maintainer script parameters are missing
[16:44] <nacc> nicomachus: ah bah, it needs to be invoked properly
[16:44] <nacc> nicomachus: (if i had to guess), from dpkg
[16:44] <tom> hi
[16:44] <nacc> nicomachus: so i'd leave it for now, i'll see if i can look later
[16:44] <nicomachus> full: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Wf2n8Qdfr9/
[16:44] <tom> any other ubuntu users out there.
[16:44] <nicomachus> tom: everyone here.
[16:44] <Guest40052> hello
[16:44] <Guest40052> ...
[16:45] <Guest40052> hi
[16:46] <nacc> Guest57550: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: perhaps ppa's creating this error?
[16:51] <nicomachus> nickware-idle: no PPAs on that device.
[16:51] <nicomachus> uhh... lotuspsychje ^
[16:52] <nicomachus> not sure how I got nickware-idle, sorry bro
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: kk
[16:54] <nicomachus> it's pretty bare-bones. pi-hole and some media applications and that's about it.
[16:54] <ericus> on a fan with RPM control, black is ground, red would be 12v and yellow would be for fan controller, right?
[16:55] <nacc> ericus: you may want ##hardware
[16:57] <ericus> quick google search showed me the answer
[16:57] <OerHeks> tacho speed, yes
[16:57] <BlaQMagiK> Irritiable|LT: Ok, can you possibly help me with the apache issue?
[17:00] <xerox123> should I be concerned about this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DHH4k2wDPP/
[17:01] <psypriest> Regarding this issue:        https://askubuntu.com/questions/1022121/ubuntu-16-04-no-ethernet-cable-and-system-not-detecting-wifi-paired-with-low  I have access to ether net cable now,  Can I please get a pastebin of what to do?
[17:01] <OerHeks> line 16: mdadm: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf defines no arrays.  ..
[17:02] <nacc> OerHeks: that's not the error
[17:02] <nacc> OerHeks: line 18
[17:02] <nacc> that's not an ubuntu kernel / headers
[17:03] <nicomachus> why the double //
[17:03] <xerox123> I don't know
[17:04] <nacc> OerHeks: err, sorry, it is an ubuntu pacakge, did't realize
[17:04] <nicomachus> xerox123: are you on raspbian?
[17:04] <xerox123> ubuntu for raspberry pi
[17:04] <nacc> xerox123: however, your package is ... 77 versions behind the current one?
[17:05] <nicomachus> xerox123: just curious because this is the EXACT same error and it's someone trying to hold both raspbian and debian packages: https://github.com/ev3dev/ev3dev/issues/386
[17:05] <BlaQMagiK> hello, when trying to start apache i get the error "Invalid command 'PerlRequire', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration"
[17:05] <BlaQMagiK> can someone help please?
[17:06] <nacc> BlaQMagiK: do you have mod-perl2 installed?
[17:06] <nacc> BlaQMagiK: libapache2-mod-perl2
[17:06] <xerox123> could it have something to do with this, nicomachus? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nccsdjCgjf/
[17:06] <nacc> xerox123: yes, you're holding an old package, and running an old kernel, afaict
[17:06] <BlaQMagiK> nacc: installing now
[17:07] <xerox123> let me update it, Ill get back to you once it's done and I try upgrade again
[17:07] <nacc> BlaQMagiK: so ... PEBKAC :) can't really use perl with apache2 without ... enabling perl with apache2 :)
[17:07] <nicomachus> xerox123: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[17:08] <BlaQMagiK> nacc: sorry im not a super good person with ubuntu, trying to learn. Here is my next error "PerlRequire directive not allowed in a <Directory> block"
[17:08] <nacc> BlaQMagiK: you may want to ask the apache channel, for that
[17:08] <nacc> BlaQMagiK: or read the apache docs
[17:08] <BlaQMagiK> nacc: apache channel?
[17:09] <nacc> !alis | BlaQMagiK
[17:12] <xerox123> nicomachus: same error as the first pastebin I pasted
[17:13] <nicomachus> xerox123: and what does uname -r show now?
[17:13] <xerox123> 4.4.0-1009-raspi2
[17:13] <nicomachus> xerox123: that didn't update then.
[17:14] <nicomachus> xerox123: what release is this? what does lsb_release -a show?
[17:14] <xerox123> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JQQtXRj5hn/
[17:15] <xerox123> 16.04.4
[17:16] <nicomachus> I wonder if this is one of the RPI releases that requires 'rpi-update' to update the kernel
[17:16] <xerox123> no such command
[17:17] <xerox123> also, isnt that for bleeding edge kernels?
[17:21] <nicomachus> did you reboot after that previous update?
[17:21] <xerox123> no
[17:22] <nicomachus> oh. well do that. new kernels don't take effect until after a reboot.
[17:26] <akem> Hey, i ask here cause ##linux is registred only: I want to test full system backup with tar, so i need to experiment/test backup/restore, any idea what small Linux distrib could i use? - it needs an installer, so i can't go Damn Small Linux for ex...
[17:27] <akem> I wanna test on Virtualbox.
[17:27] <nicomachus> akem: register your account and then ask in ##linux
[17:27] <nicomachus> or use lubuntu
[17:28] <akem> nicomachus, i guess i could register...i don't know why they set this channel mode.
[17:28] <nicomachus> because they don't want a bunch of noobs or spammers clogging the channel.
[17:29] <BugzBunny> akem: You here on #ubuntu to ask about ##linux?
[17:30] <xerox123> made a backup of some important things, restarting now
[17:31] <akem> BugzBunny, I'm on ##linux too but i can't speak of course. I don't like to have to register...but don't worry i do ask about Ubuntu related here AND i try to help about it when i can.
[17:32] <BugzBunny> akem: Next, try #freenode
[17:32] <BugzBunny> akem: next time*
[17:32] <BugzBunny> Best place to ask questions like that
[17:33] <BlaQMagiK> hello, can someone tell me what this error is about "Cache::FastMmap does not support threads sorry at /usr/local/lib/perl/5.18.2/Cache/FastMmap.pm line 1323"
[17:33] <xerox123> nicomachus: uname -r still shows the old kernel
[17:35] <xerox123> and the same apt-get upgrade error persists...
[17:37] <psypriest> Regarding this issue:        https://askubuntu.com/questions/1022121/ubuntu-16-04-no-ethernet-cable-and-system-not-detecting-wifi-paired-with-low  I have access to ether net cable now,  Can I please get a pastebin of what to do?
[17:44] <ioria> psypriest, can you paste  inxi -Fxxprzc0   ?
[18:05] <Sven_vB> when using xfce, do I have to rely on xfce-specific tools (xflock4) to lock my screen?
[18:06] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, not necassarily, though it's certainly a lot easier to use the tools that come with the desktop
[18:06] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, so what would be a good fallback mechanism to lock my screen when xflock4 failed?
[18:07] <SlidingHorn> Sven_vB, You can choose your own locker, I believe.  Take a look at man xautolock
[18:07] <Sven_vB> thanks!
[18:07] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, I would investigate why XFLock failed to work
[18:08] <Sven_vB> I've tried that, but I couldn't find any error message except its exit status 1
[18:08] <SlidingHorn> Sven_vB, I'd agree w/ pragmaticenigma though - It'd make sense to look into why xfloock didn't work
[18:08] <Sven_vB> I asked in #xfce already but I'll gladly accept your help as well :D
[18:09] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, My only concern with just replacing it, is there might be another contributing factor that caused to fail, which may carry to any new locker
[18:09] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, do you use any screensaver with the lock?
[18:10] <Sven_vB> usually xscreensaver, but that seems to not start up correctly sometimes.
[18:11] <Sven_vB> I'll check how I can make xscreensaver more verbose
[18:11] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, is xscreensaver set to just a blank screen or one of the millions of other savers?
[18:11] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, just black.
[18:12] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, that'd be strange for it to cause problems then. but xflock and xscreensaver do compliment each other. so one failing may affect the other
[18:12] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, what about just locking the desktop manually... is there any issues there?
[18:13] <boblamont> Trying to install BUTT (Broadcast Using This Tool) in Lubuntu 17.10 (64). I've installed the latest PortAudio lib (19.something) from Synaptic. Getting some portaudio related errors in make. I posted the terminal log for config and make here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FZYTNYMBgV/
[18:13] <Sven_vB> dunno, how do I lock it maually, other than running xflock4?
[18:13] <nicomachus> Windows key + L
[18:13] <Sven_vB> my xfce keyboard settings do map Super+L to xflock4
[18:14] <Sven_vB> there's no effect when I press those keys so I assume it fails there as well
[18:19] <Sven_vB> xautolock seems to be just an activity monitor. it mentions xlock so I'll look at that.
[18:20] <Sven_vB> "No manual entry for xlock", "No current or candidate version found for xlock" :(
[18:20] <PlainDave> Is "cat /etc/*-release" the best terminal command for upgrading to the newest LTS?
[18:21] <Sven_vB> PlainDave, that just shows some info, doesn't upgrade anything.
[18:21] <Sven_vB> at least it shouldn't. :D
[18:21] <PlainDave> Oooops, I meant "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[18:22] <SlidingHorn> PlainDave, when the new LTS is officially released, yes.
[18:22] <PlainDave> Okay, thanks
[18:23] <s10gopal> !ubott
[18:24] <Sven_vB> I found an xlock man page for Ubuntu precise, but it doesn't seem to be in trusty.
[18:26] <Sven_vB> I could try disabling all screens with xrandr, then floating all mice and keyboards with xinput. however, if my USB auth token fails, I won't have the option to type my password as a fallback. :/
[18:29] <Sven_vB> there seems to be some other feature active that blanks my screen after a while. I'll try disable that first so I can more reliably tell whether xscreensaver might have started.
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> Sven_vB: did you add xscreensaver to startup items with an option?
[18:32] <boblamont> I just looked at line 434 in the Makefile.. in my text editor, that's a blank line, but around there it starts being about cscopelist
[18:33] <Sven_vB> lotuspsychje, nope, I have another way to start it, but I'll clean that up a bit before I show you.
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> !compile | boblamont can this help?
[18:34] <Sven_vB> meanwhile if someone has an idea how I could lock my screen without relying on xscreensaver, please tell me.
[18:34] <boblamont> !compile
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> boblamont: we also suggest searching the official ubuntu repos first before you compile something
[18:35] <boblamont> I did, Butt doesn't seem to be there.. there used to be a repo with a deb, but it's several versions/years behind now
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> Sven_vB: have you tried in #xubuntu?
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> boblamont: whats the package mate?
[18:37] <boblamont> It's Butt (Broadcast Using This Tool)... it looks like it's having a problem with port_audio. Supposedly it needs version 19, which is what was I installed with Synaptic. I stuck the terminal output in this pastebin https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FZYTNYMBgV/
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> boblamont: perhaps the git page, or find a more decent ubuntu alternative for butt?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> boblamont: tons of streaming packages out there
[18:43] <Sven_vB> lotuspsychje, nope, thanks for the idea! I'll try there later if we run out of ideas here.
[18:43] <TJ-> bboles: the problem is in the butt-0.1.16/port-audio.cpp  - it's changing the type declaration
[18:44] <boblamont> I like that it has a gui with a vu meter... I haven't found another one that does that... good for quickly checking that it's getting the audio