[02:42] <Pelo> dylan_  install automatix and install all the multimedia stuff
[02:43] <Kyral> !automatix
[02:43] <zF> Hi
[02:43] <Pelo> dylan_  http://www.getautomatix.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4&Itemid=23
[02:43] <zF> I was curious if XGL/Compiz could be run on Xubuntu?
[02:43] <wastrel> kaizoku:  try installing xorg-dev
[02:43] <crimsun> KyoLptp`: asking questions is viable, too.
[02:43] <Bassetts> this cron will not run
[02:43] <dylan_> Pelo, i dont know if you saw earlier, but i do not use proprietary software.
[02:43] <Kyral> ubotu tell dylan_ about automatix
[02:43] <kaizoku> ok, thanks
[02:43] <StylusEater> yatpay: other resolutions might be listed but not supported by your chipset...I'd recommend doing an lspci to see the chipset and an lsmod to see what driver is loaded...then I'd check to make sure your chipset supports your desired resolution and then make sure the driver is loaded
[02:43] <crimsun> KyoLptp`: the entire procedure is documented in bug 48620
[02:44] <Bassetts> is there a way to see that output of a cron?
[02:44] <Pelo> dylan_  I hadn't , sorry, then I don't knwo how to help you
[02:44] <Kyral> Bassetts: direct its output to a file and check the file
[02:44] <StylusEater> yatpay: then you can fiddle with your xorg.conf file
[02:44] <Bassetts> Kyral: how though
[02:44] <dylan_> Pelo, do you know of a good Flash and Java alternative?
[02:44] <Kyral> Bassetts: command >> somefile
[02:44] <Bassetts> ok Kyral
[02:44] <NET||abuse> ok, why would nm-applet have wireless options before my pc restarted and not when it started up again?
[02:45] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys.  neither Gens nor Snes9x function in OpenGL mode, yet other games like chromium and ppracer do.  Any ideas?  Is it related to opengl overlay turned off?
[02:45] <Pelo> dylan_ if I did I probably wouldn't be trying to install flash,  I'm new at this and I am a bit frazzled
[02:45] <dylan_> Pelo, okay, well thanks for all of your help tonight!  see you on IRC sometime later!
[02:45] <KyoLptp`> I think it works fine now
[02:45] <Bassetts> Kyral: */1 * * * * sh /home/bassetts/logs/IBO/ftp.sh >> cron.txt ???
[02:45] <KyoLptp`> just certain flash animations don't work right
[02:45] <Kyral> yah
[02:45] <KyoLptp`> thanks for the help crimsun
[02:45] <crimsun> KyoLptp`: np
[02:45] <Kyral> though might wanna make it go to your homedir
[02:45] <wastrel> Bassetts:  use a full path for the output file
[02:46] <Bassetts> ok
[02:47] <Bassetts> wastrel: is everything else ok though?
[02:48] <wastrel> Bassetts:  i didn't try to parse the time codes but the command looks fine :]
[02:48] <Bassetts> wastrel: nothing got put into cron.txt
[02:48] <Bassetts> just empty text file
[02:48] <ic56> Bassetts, wastrel: that crontab line is fine, though specifying /1 is silly -- it's implied.
[02:48] <xanavim> Gonzo: what command are you using to mount smb?
[02:49] <wastrel> Bassetts:  and if you run the ftp.sh script from the command line, you get output?
[02:49] <Bassetts> ic56: what to you mean /1??
[02:49] <[PUPPETS] Gonzo> highlights all the time ;)
[02:49] <Bassetts> wastrel: the .sh works just fine
[02:49] <wastrel> Bassetts:  you might be missing some environment variables in the cron environment that are present in your shell environment
[02:50] <Gonzo> xanavim: sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=user,password=passwd //fcoulombe-G4.local/ /media/mac/
[02:50] <yatpay> ok, different question. i've got the ATI drivers installed, but "aticonfig" isn't recognized as a command
[02:50] <Gonzo> or variant of that...
[02:50] <ic56> Bassetts: your first field is "*/1".  The "/1" is unnecessary.  Also using absolute paths is generally a good idea in crontabs, so replace sh with /bin/sh
[02:50] <Gonzo> with the ip address
[02:50] <Gonzo> i also realized that smbfs wasnt installed
[02:50] <Gonzo> but with installing it... it just says connexion refused
[02:50] <rjian> can anyone help me with firestarter and samba??
[02:50] <Bassetts> ic56: done that
[02:50] <Gonzo> 16006: Connection to fcoulombe-G4.local failed
[02:50] <Gonzo> SMB connection failed
[02:51] <Gonzo> and i do connect successfully from windows
[02:51] <Gonzo> or mozilla
[02:51] <yatpay> anyone? aticonfig?
[02:51] <Bassetts> ic56: can i get it to output everything??
[02:51] <ThePizzaKing> My friend wants me to install Ubuntu on his computer and I was wondering which I should use to set it up, EasyUbuntu or AutoMatrix?
[02:52] <Bassetts> ic56: e.g the .sh says run pisg, and pisg outputs some text
[02:52] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[02:52] <wubrgamer> how's it going ?
[02:52] <yatpay> haha, hi wubrgamer
[02:52] <wubrgamer> so, anyway
[02:52] <jiSh> how can i go about putting xubuntu on my laptop w/128MB ram
[02:52] <wubrgamer> i'm installing amarok on my ubuntu install
[02:52] <wubrgamer> will it just work ?
[02:52] <jiSh> it freezes at partition
[02:53] <buggzero> is there a better IM Client thank Kopete?
[02:53] <jiSh> gaim
[02:53] <ic56> Bassetts: yes, when you redirect a program, all its children inherit the redirection.  So all commands run by the script are also redirected.  I note that you didn't redirect STDERR, though.  You probably should.  Do it like this: ... >>/home/bassetts/myfile  2>&1
[02:53] <buggzero> but gaim is giving me IPv6 problems
[02:53] <xanavim> Gonzo: so you did try using static IP instead of fcoul..local?
[02:54] <wubrgamer> gaim
[02:54] <Gonzo> yes
[02:54] <jiSh> i googled the .deb package for 2.30 beta 3
[02:54] <zF> does anyone know a free windows software that I can burn .iso's with?
[02:54] <Gonzo> same result if not worst
[02:54] <Bassetts> ic56: i am very confused now
[02:54] <jiSh> zf: IMGBURN
[02:54] <wubrgamer> deepburner
[02:54] <yatpay> anyone know why "aticonfig" isn't recognized as a command for me?
[02:54] <Bassetts> ic56: cron.txt says not connected many times
[02:54] <goinup> hi-- i've been looking around and i can't seem to find a workaround. i have 2 sata hds connected to a 3ware 80062lp and it seems that ubuntu installs but it hangs when it tries to do 'first boot' right after it finishes decompressing the kernel
[02:55] <ic56> Bassetts: good. the crontab is being run once a minute and the script is outputing errors to your log file.  Did you write the script?
[02:55] <goinup> is this known? is there a workaround?
[02:55] <jiSh> how can i go about putting xubuntu on my laptop w/128MB ram .. it freezes @ partitioning
[02:55] <wubrgamer> so right guys
[02:55] <jiSh> or should i use diff distro
[02:55] <Bassetts> ic56: i wrote the ftp.sh that runs a script then sends a file over ftp
[02:56] <ic56> Bassetts: ok, pastebin ftp.sh I'll take a look.
[02:56] <LinuxNIT> on a x86_64 system can i use the wine repo on the winehq.com website?
[02:56] <buggzero> is there a debian package for the new Gaim Beta?
[02:57] <void^> LinuxNIT: no
[02:57] <LinuxNIT> k thanks
[02:57] <LinuxNIT> didnt think so
[02:57] <wubrgamer> so guys
[02:57] <marc> could someone please tell me how to get the mplayer plugin for mozilla to allow realplayer 10 to handle realplayer stuff?
[02:57] <yatpay> anyone know why "aticonfig" isn't recognized as a command for me?
[02:58] <LinuxNIT> void^, does ubuntu have wine for x86_64?
[02:58] <kbrooks> ThePizzaKing: try one of them
[02:58] <kbrooks> ThePizzaKing: tell us which one you like best
[02:58] <ThePizzaKing> kbrooks: Fair enough
[02:58] <Bassetts> ic56: http://rafb.net/paste/results/1pHRA479.html
[02:58] <ghost> okay the wee networkManager applet top right of the screen has a small orange exclamation mark next to it, claiming no network connection. I can use the internet and can now access the ssh server and web server from other computers on the network. BUT i cant ping either computer from the other and this exclamation mark remains. Does anyone have any idea what is going on here?
[02:59] <yatpay> -_- 800 people and no answers
[02:59] <void^> LinuxNIT: no, look into a 32bit chroot environment
[02:59] <bintrue> I'm not getting any heartbeats in ##gnome so maybe someone here can help: Is there a way to increase the spacing between icons so my filenames don't wrap as much when I have the text next to instead of underneath the icons?
[02:59] <xanavim> Gonzo: try this:  sudo smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/myname /media/smb_mount/ -o username=myname,password=passwd
[02:59] <Gonzo> k
[02:59] <LinuxNIT> void^, thanks
[02:59] <LinuxNIT> void^, would comipliing from source work?
[03:00] <ic56> Bassetts: I presume pisg generates index.html?
[03:00] <Bassetts> yes ic56
[03:00] <ghost> anyone?
[03:00] <Gonzo> processing...
[03:00] <wastrel> ghost:  the network manager thingy doesn't seem to talk to /etc/network/interfaces
[03:00] <Gonzo> timeout connecting  :(
[03:00] <void^> LinuxNIT: i don't really know, i don't have any x86_64, but afaik you can technically compile a 64bit wine and use it for 64bit windows apps (so it's rather useless)
[03:00] <xanavim> Gonzo: how odd
[03:01] <wastrel> ghost:  also system > administration > networking  seems to operate independently of the network manager applet
[03:01] <xanavim> Gonzo: you can ping your mac from the maching you're using?
[03:01] <ic56> Bassetts: have you tried running that script from the command line? did it work?
[03:01] <Gonzo> maybe my smb service crashed on the mac
[03:01] <LinuxNIT> void^, ah ok didnt thing about that part thanks
[03:01] <LinuxNIT> :D
[03:01] <Gonzo> it seems to happen alot
[03:01] <ghost> okay any ideas why i cant ping from comp to comp but can access ssh and webserver ?
[03:01] <kevinly> having problems mounting a windows partition.
[03:01] <xanavim> Gonzo: which version on your mac?
[03:01] <Bassetts> ic56: ftp.sh works
[03:01] <Gonzo> xanavim: i can use netatalk no problem
[03:01] <Gonzo> 10.4 tiger
[03:01] <kevinly> i've 2 partitions that came up automatically which are fine
[03:01] <kevinly> that i can't write to.
[03:01] <bintrue> ghost, could it be a firewall?
[03:01] <xanavim> Gonzo: smb is pretty stable on Mac for 10.4
[03:02] <Gonzo> i've seen it crash often between windows and mac
[03:02] <bintrue> kevinly, NTFS?
[03:02] <kevinly> but i've set a side 4gb as a drive that would be mutally writeable from both
[03:02] <ghost> not as far as i know
[03:02] <kevinly> bintrue: yes.
[03:02] <wastrel> ghost:  check iwconfig & see if you're connected to the network you think you're connected to
[03:02] <ghost> i have just reinstalled dapper
[03:02] <xanavim> Gonzo: maybe a reboot would help then, dunno
[03:02] <kevinly> the format obviously didnt work
[03:02] <Gonzo> yeah that usualy does it
[03:02] <ghost> have no installed any firewall
[03:02] <bintrue> kevinly, You are best off with one being Fat32. NTFS is hard to work with in LInux
[03:02] <Gonzo> nyway i'll keep trying stuff
[03:02] <Gonzo> thx for your help
[03:02] <kevinly> bintrue: i know :)
[03:02] <xanavim> I turned on windows sharing on my mac and that command I gave you worked
[03:02] <kevinly> i formated the drive to fat32
[03:03] <kevinly> but it's still not operatable from linux...
[03:03] <Gonzo> yeah that last one looked quite promising
[03:03] <Gonzo> (more than the previous ones)
[03:03] <eneried> hello
[03:03] <Gonzo> i'll do a few tests
[03:03] <eneried> does enybody know how to write chinese, japanese or korean in amsn??
[03:03] <Gonzo> brb
[03:03] <bintrue> kevinly, I would check the way it's mounted
[03:03] <kevinly> i just went into system/administration/disk format and expected it to work tbh
[03:03] <ic56> kevinly: point your browser to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[03:03] <kevinly> yep it mounts
[03:03] <ic56> kevinly: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[03:04] <kevinly> i want to make it clear
[03:04] <kevinly> i have 3 windows partions
[03:04] <kevinly> 2 of which are fine as ntfs
[03:04] <kevinly> and i don't want to damage
[03:04] <kevinly> the final one is supposed to be fat32 but doesn't do anything
[03:04] <orfeu> hy all
[03:05] <ghost> iwconfig just says no wireless extensions which is fair enough because i dont have any woreless adapters
[03:05] <bintrue> kevinly, I'm no expert but I would check out /etc/fstab to find out how the drive is getting mounted ie RO. or RW
[03:05] <wastrel> ghost:  oic heh i thought you were using wireless that's what most people want that applet for
[03:05] <ic56> kevinly: please don't use your [ENTER]  key so much.
[03:05] <acetech> anyone know why my hp laserjet 4l driver is not found in ubuntu?
[03:05] <wastrel> root_:  don't IRC as root
[03:06] <kevinly> ic56: sorry.
[03:06] <ghost> to be honest im not too fussed about theh wee applet
[03:06] <ghost> its just not being able to ping which is wierd
[03:06] <eneried> does anybody knows how to use scim?
[03:06] <wastrel> ghost:  can you ping the ubuntu system from your other machines?
[03:06] <eneried> :'( i think no body is talking to me today :'(
[03:06] <buggzero> acetech: you may want to try nwizwrapper
[03:06] <ghost> nope
[03:06] <buggzero> or its called something like that
[03:07] <orfeu> eneried what you need ? :)
[03:07] <buggzero> ubotu: tell eneried about SCIM
[03:07] <ic56> Bassetts: well, I'm still not sure why this is happening, but I can tell you that the "no connected" message is probably being displayed when the ftp put command is reached -- because logging-in failed.
[03:07] <Bassetts> ok ic56
[03:07] <wastrel> ghost:  what's the IP on the ubuntu system?  does it have the proper subnet mask?  using dhcp for network configuration?
[03:08] <Bassetts> ic56: ill just stick with running ftp.sh manually
[03:08] <Bassetts> saves me time anyway
[03:08] <ghost> it has a static ip of <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:08] <ghost> subnet<PHONE_NUMBER>
[03:08] <ghost> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:08] <acetech> buggzero, i just googled nwizwrapper and no results
[03:08] <krazykit> acetech: ndiswrapper.
[03:09] <buggzero> thats what i ment
[03:09] <buggzero> sorry i was close
[03:09] <orfeu> acetech ndiswrapper !!! :)
[03:09] <acetech> krazykit, i though ndiswrapper was for wireless
[03:09] <ghost> all the system on the network should have the same subnet mask right ?
[03:09] <krazykit> nah, it does wired stuff too
[03:09] <buggzero> its for general conversion of windows drivers
[03:09] <wastrel> ghost:  yes
[03:09] <xne0x> hello can some1 help me with vmware error
[03:09] <buggzero> i think
[03:09] <krazykit> buggzero: only networking drivers.
[03:09] <luis_> guys, my vmware player started to give out this error message: Could not open /dev/vmmon
[03:09] <xne0x>  when i generate a 320k file which is a usable blank drive with this cmd
[03:10] <buggzero> sonofoa
[03:10] <xne0x> wine qemu-img.exe create -f vmdk WindowsXPPro.vmdk 2G Formating 'WindowsXPPro.vmdk', fmt=vmdk, size=2097152 kB
[03:10] <buggzero> my bad
[03:10] <acetech> i don't want a windows print driver though... i have had the printer working with the hpijs linux driver before
[03:10] <xne0x>  i get this error
[03:10] <krazykit> acetech: what?
[03:10] <xne0x> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\qemu-img.exe": Module not found
[03:10] <xne0x> anyone kno how to fix
[03:10] <krazykit> acetech: ndiswrapper is for network cards, nothing else.
[03:10] <ghost> hmmm well its all pretty wierd i'll just let it lie for now i think....
[03:10] <ghost> thanks anyway
[03:10] <xne0x> ??
[03:10] <acetech> krazykit, it is for a printer
[03:11] <krazykit> acetech: um... then you can't use ndiswrapper.  you'll need to find a native driver.
[03:11] <wastrel> okey dokey
[03:11] <Gonzo> actualy  xanavim: i added debug=4
[03:11] <Gonzo> 19457: session request ok
[03:11] <Gonzo> 19457: session setup ok
[03:11] <Gonzo> 19457: tconx ok
[03:11] <Gonzo> namecache_shutdown: Couldn't close namecache on top of gencache.
[03:11] <bintrue> Anyone know if you can change the Icon spacing in Nautilus?
[03:11] <Gonzo> dunno if that makes sense to you...
[03:12] <raiffhigor> how can i install a file .rpm?!?!?!?
[03:12] <roler> during the last ubuntu update, the ones in the last few days, did they update anything related to wireless?  Any way I can see an update log?
[03:12] <NickGarvey> !tell raiffhigor about rpm
[03:12] <eugman> Hey, Any easy way I can watch a slow animation of the function y=round(5*x^n) with n going from 1 to 100?
[03:12] <wastrel> raiffhigor:  don't install rpm
[03:12] <wastrel> raiffhigor:  what program
[03:12] <epssy> !rpm
[03:12] <ubotu> well, rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debian's DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[03:13] <raiffhigor> wastrel XFree86-devel
[03:13] <ube_> can someone please check my website, www.rowelldionicio.com, and let me know what content is displayed
[03:13] <krazykit> raiffhigor: ubuntu uses xorg
[03:13] <epssy> eugman: gnuplot maybe?
[03:13] <krazykit> not xorg
[03:13] <ube_> i am having issues uploading. seems to be a cache issue
[03:14] <luis_> guys, my vmware player started to give out this error message: Could not open /dev/vmmon
[03:14] <raiffhigor> xorg dont have in my ubuntu...
[03:14] <krazykit> err, raiffhigor, ubuntu uses xorg, not xfree.  if you need devel headers, xorg-dev
[03:14] <raiffhigor> i did xorg ###########
[03:14] <buggzero> hey krazykit: do you know much about disabling IPv6
[03:14] <krazykit> buggzero: no, i just disable it in my kernel.
[03:15] <raiffhigor> hum...
[03:15] <buggzero> where abouts could I find that as well
[03:15] <raiffhigor> ok thanks i'll try...
[03:15] <raiffhigor> ;)
[03:15] <ic56> Bassetts: I tried your script under crontab on my box and it worked the same way as on the command line (index.html: No such file or directory).  I think the problem is that the ftp server is sometimes not accepting your login.  Overloaded at times maybe?
[03:15] <buggzero> it gives me a hard time connecting to stuff unless i "host irc.freenode.net" in console
[03:15] <raiffhigor> krazykit: apt-get install xorg-dev???
[03:15] <krazykit> buggzero: well, unless you're prepared to compile your own kernel, you're better of putting any loaded ipv6 modules into the blacklist file
[03:15] <krazykit> raiffhigor: yeah
[03:16] <raiffhigor> impossible to find package xorg-dev
[03:16] <raiffhigor> returns for me...
[03:16] <buggzero> i havent compiled my own kernel yet
[03:16] <raiffhigor> krazykit: what can i do?!?
[03:16] <buggzero> you need more repositories
[03:16] <krazykit> buggzero: wrong, it's in the main one.
[03:17] <buggzero> shucks
[03:17] <raiffhigor> krazykit: ?!!?!?
[03:17] <buggzero> thats twice ive struck out
[03:17] <roler> during the last ubuntu update, the ones in the last few days, did they update anything related to wireless?  Any way I can see an update log?
[03:17] <krazykit> raiffhigor: you must be doing something wrong then. "sudo apt-get install xorg-dev" is the right package for the x-devel headers.
[03:17] <wastrel> xorg-dev is in main
[03:17] <krazykit> raiffhigor: and ffs, i take longer than 30 seconds to type sometimes.  be patient, man
[03:18] <bintrue> Can anyone recommend replacements for Nautilus?
[03:18] <krazykit> bintrue: thunar, rox-filer
[03:18] <Alethes> gnome-terminal? :D
[03:18] <bintrue> quick and easy, thanks krazykit
[03:18] <krazykit> bintrue: though thunar has more dependencies than rox-filer
[03:18] <Alethes> thunar looks intriguing
[03:18] <bintrue> I'm looking for something that can mimik WIndows Explorer's List view
[03:19] <krazykit> bintrue: thunar will do that
[03:19] <bintrue> Nautilus' icons are just too damn close together
[03:19] <krazykit> bintrue: though it's been a long time since i've used windows... list view looks fine to me in thunar
[03:20] <bintrue> thanks for the suggestion krazykit
[03:20] <tehgooch> Hello, everybody.
[03:20] <raiffhigor> krazykit: sorry...
[03:20] <raiffhigor> krazykit: i'll be...
[03:20] <raiffhigor> krazykit: ;)
[03:21] <kaizoku> whenever I try to install GoogleEarth, it just gives me an error saying "You don't see[m]  to be running an X server (no DISPLAY set)", and then aborts, I tried running "export DISPLAY=0.0", but then it just goes through the uncompression and stops
[03:23] <UKMatt> hey, someone had told me earlier that you could change the panel in gnome (menu bar), can you really b/c i think he was wrong
[03:23] <NickGarvey> what doy ou mean change?
[03:23] <UKMatt> like, theme it
[03:23] <UKMatt> make it look - not gay
[03:23] <NickGarvey> !gay
[03:23] <tehgooch> I think there is a theme option under system > preferences
[03:23] <NickGarvey> !tell UKMatt about gay
[03:24] <bintrue> UKMatt, try right clicking and properties
[03:24] <__mikem> Does anyone know if Gnoppix is worth while? Its based on ubuntu so I would expect quality
[03:24] <__mikem> !manners
[03:24] <ubotu> Please respect and don't abuse the people that are trying to help you. That is not productive. We are all unpaid volunteers, giving up our spare time. For more info, ask me about !coc
[03:24] <UKMatt> bintrue, i've tried that, but it doesn't look right when you color/image it
[03:24] <kaizoku> whenever I try to install GoogleEarth, it just gives me an error saying "You don't see[m]  to be running an X server (no DISPLAY set)", and then aborts, I tried running "export DISPLAY=0.0", but then it just goes through the uncompression and stops
[03:24] <valehru> Hey guys...
[03:25] <wastrel> UKMatt:  the widgets on your gnome panels are themed by the gtk theme.  check gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org for gtk themes
[03:25] <UKMatt> and also, does anyone know why sometime i'll pull up a menu and i'll give me arrows up and down, and sometimes it wont
[03:25] <UKMatt> wastrel, i've done themes, but they don't change the toolbar thing
[03:25] <valehru> Could someone test something out for me....trying to listen to a stream in firefox however every time I try and access it in Firefox it keeps crashing firefox.....Here's the stream...can anyone test it for me ? Running dapper x64: http://exodus.interoutemediaservices.com/livestreams/srh/today_fm.asx
[03:25] <bintrue> krazykit, again, thanks Thunar is exactly what I want
[03:26] <prwlr> hello
[03:26] <krazykit> bintrue: be careful, though.  it doesn't have trashcan support.  delete means delete.
[03:26] <bintrue> thanks for the warning
[03:26] <raiffhigor> krazykit: i can't found in apt-get
[03:26] <raiffhigor> xorg-dev
[03:27] <krazykit> raiffhigor: you're running dapper, right?  6.06?
[03:27] <mish4> mish4@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname-r)
[03:27] <mish4> bash: uname-r: command not found
[03:27] <raiffhigor> no ubuntu 5.10
[03:27] <wastrel> uname -r
[03:27] <raiffhigor> krazykit: i can't found in apt-ge
[03:27] <krazykit> raiffhigor: ah, well no wonder.  that package doesn't exist in 5.10
[03:27] <__mikem> put a space between the command and the options
[03:27] <raiffhigor> krazykit: sorry...
[03:27] <valehru> hmm ...strange...when I use the link directly its fine however on the website it crashes.....must be a problem with firefox and the website itself.....won't be going there again :)
[03:27] <raiffhigor> krazykit: and how can i get it?!?!
[03:27] <xnix> krazykit what are some differences between thunar and nautilus?
[03:28] <xnix> krazykit i havent used thunar
[03:28] <__mikem> valehru, that might be because its cached
[03:28] <mish4> what about
[03:28] <mish4> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules
[03:28] <raiffhigor> krazykit: do you know?!?!
[03:28] <krazykit> xnix: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html
[03:28] <mish4> nevermind i got it
[03:28] <krazykit> raiffhigor: hrm, then i don't know.  search synaptic for xorg and look for -dev packages is all i can suggest
[03:28] <xnix> krazykit hehe im there
[03:28] <raiffhigor> krazykit: ok
[03:28] <yatpay> can anyone tell me why the command "aticonfig" isn't recognized?
[03:28] <raiffhigor>  thanks
[03:29] <valehru> _mikem, could you check the site out and see if it does the same for you?  http://www.todayfm.com then click listen now...
[03:29] <bintrue> xnix: I went looking for thunar because I didn't like the way Nautilus displayed icons.
[03:29] <xnix> krazykit do you think its faster than nautilus?
[03:29] <xnix> bintrue ahh ok
[03:29] <Alethes> isn't nautilus fast enough?
[03:29] <krazykit> xnix: yeah, a little, but i use it because i used xfce instead of gnome
[03:29] <xnix> yeah cool
[03:29] <__mikem> valehru it works here. IF you can't see it, Id first look in your hosts file
[03:29] <Alethes> if it feels slow, you shoulda seen it in the early days heh
[03:29] <efox> what do i need to "make"
[03:29] <efox> if that makes sense
[03:29] <xnix> Alethes yeah nautilus has gotten a lot faster for the past few releases
[03:30] <__mikem> efox you need to install build-essential
[03:30] <krazykit> xfce's really improved though, too, between 2.0 and 2.4 beta.
[03:30] <wastrel> breezy used xfree by default i think.
[03:30] <efox> __mikem:  thanks. does that come within drapper install or is this separate ?
[03:30] <krazykit> wastrel: no, it used xorg 6.8
[03:30] <__mikem> you have to apt-get it
[03:30] <__mikem> wrastrel breazy uses x.org
[03:31] <bintrue> I didn't like not being able to change the Icon spacing in Nautilus, my long folder filenames were wrapping too much with the text to the side
[03:31] <valehru> _mikem, what browser were you using?
[03:31] <tehgooch> soop, I've been having the problems described in this link with my iPod Nano: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/37163 . Looks like the one solution that works is to recompile the kernel without the EFI-PARTITION thing. I am unsure of how to do this though, could somebody point me to a guide or something else?
[03:31] <tehgooch> so*
[03:31] <__mikem> valehru Firefox
[03:32] <raiffhigor> who knows how can i get xorg-dev?!?!!?!?
[03:32] <wastrel> krazykit:  thx :]   i guess i still had xorg cause i upgraded to breezy
[03:32] <wastrel> er, s/xorg/xfree/
[03:32] <prwlr_> j #ubuntu-ph
[03:33] <kbrooks> wastrel: no :-)
[03:33] <efox> i just learned that if you open a program in terminal and close terminal, you then close that program too :|
[03:33] <__mikem> wastrel, I honestly hope you don't actually USE ed.
[03:33] <kbrooks> efox: um
[03:33] <kbrooks> efox: you can put it in background
[03:33] <alpha255> efox: parent and child processes
[03:33] <knoppix_> hey guys, anybody hadd tried to remaster Ubuntu live cd?
[03:33] <wastrel> __mikem:  just ed mode in vi
[03:33] <kbrooks> efox: program (arguments here) &
[03:33] <efox> ya i read bout that background thing...like & if im not mistaken
[03:33] <efox> ya
[03:33] <bintrue> efox, if you run the program with &... ya
[03:33] <__mikem> Oh, the horror
[03:33] <steev> raiffhigor: i just ran apt-get install xorg-dev with no problem here
[03:33] <bimberi> raiffhigor: it's xserver-xorg-dev
[03:33] <kbrooks> efox: use it
[03:33] <snoops> can you get filenames to only display a set number of characters before it does a "..." so you have to hover over the file to see the full name?
[03:33] <alpha255> efox:  bg works
[03:34] <kbrooks> alpha255: no
[03:34] <efox> i think i will use it from now on...
[03:34] <ape_> does anyone know of dvd decrypter/dvd shrink type software for ubuntu?
[03:34] <valehru> __mikem,  hmm....using 1.5 on x86, but it still keeps crashing each time I try and access that specific page....oh well...prolly beyond my control but I never thought firefox should just quit like that.....wouldnt mind debugging it to see where the problem is
[03:34] <kbrooks> alpha255: ctrl+z, bg
[03:34] <bimberi> raiffhigor: sorry, ignore me
[03:34] <zquirm> i've installed subversion via the package, but it doesn't have any startup daemons or anything, it doesn't go into init.d, etc
[03:34] <kbrooks> alpha255: fg puts it back in foreground
[03:34] <bluep0p13> hi, I'm currently running windows xp home and I've been talking with a friend of mine for a while who has switched to linux. he's told me how I should try it and see what I think. I figured out how to run the live cd verion and it was very clean and quite nice to use. I'm basically wanting more facts about it and maybe some help on why I should want to switch to it and how to and what I need to do in order to make it ha
[03:34] <zquirm> what's up with the layout of the svn apt in ubuntu?
[03:34] <kbrooks> zquirm: it does not need to
[03:34] <__mikem> valehru, it might be a javascript error. TRy turning javascript off before you view the page
[03:34] <zquirm> kbrooks: how does it work instead then?
[03:35] <valehru> will do
[03:35] <kbrooks> zquirm: you installed *subversion*, not *subversion-tools*
[03:35] <kbrooks> !info subversion
[03:35] <ubotu> subversion: (advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 198 kB, Installed size: 3016 kB
[03:35] <kbrooks> !info subversion-tools
[03:35] <ubotu> subversion-tools: (assorted tools related to Subversion (aka. svn)), section admin, is extra. Version: 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 119 kB, Installed size: 376 kB
[03:35] <zquirm> but subversion came with svnserve
[03:35] <__mikem> subversion, I thought that was what cvs was for
[03:35] <ape_> bluepopl3, you might want to start with a dual boot system, keep a windows partition and run linux on another
[03:35] <kbrooks> zquirm: so use it
[03:35] <swim> is there anything i can do to repair a lost partition table? (fat32)
[03:35] <bintrue> bluep0p13, I would suggest reading through the Wiki at wiki.ubuntu.org . It has a wealth of info
[03:35] <tehgooch> Could someone please point me in the right direction to a tutorial/guide on how to recompile the kernel without EFI-PARTITION so I can get my ipod working?
[03:35] <zquirm> kbrooks: that's what I'm saying
[03:35] <harry> is there an application that supports video, audio transfer to mobile phones???
[03:35] <zquirm> there's no startup-scripts for svnserve/etc
[03:35] <valehru> __mikem, haha...no....it just quit every firefox browser I had on the machine...lol
[03:36] <kbrooks> __mikem: revision control systems are not for source code
[03:36] <Discipulus> how do I view the hardware connected to Ubuntu?
[03:36] <efox> bluep0p13: I was like you a few months ago. I decided to give it a try and its been great...pisses me off more than anything but once u get the hang of it..is really cool
[03:36] <kbrooks> zquirm: no need for them
[03:36] <bluep0p13> well, is there some way someone could have a private chat with me so we could talk on a more personal level about this
[03:36] <__mikem> kbrooks, oh
[03:36] <lime4x4> evening all
[03:36] <zquirm> kbrooks: we're supposed to run svnserve manually?
[03:36] <__mikem> valehru, and you said if you hit it from a link it works?
[03:36] <zquirm> manually add it?
[03:36] <kbrooks> __mikem: i mean "not just for source code"
[03:36] <__mikem> :)
[03:36] <lime4x4> trying to get xgl running on ubuntu i have the ati fglrx drivers installed but when i try to set the screen to Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] " in the xorg.conf file my computer will no longer boot i have to change it back to Default Screen
[03:36] <harry> is there an application that supports video, audio transfer to mobile phones???
[03:37] <valehru> __mikem, ya,.....I get it from the stream and its fine...however when I try and access the page that the stream is on it completely crashes
[03:37] <odyssey> does wpa_supplicant work with the live cd?
[03:37] <valehru> lol
[03:37] <kbrooks> zquirm: run it manually, or use svn+ssh://, inwstall "openssh" first
[03:37] <Discipulus> Alright I've been having problems with hardware on my Ubuntu System for like the past couple of days can you people help me or not?
[03:37] <kbrooks> Discipulus: ask
[03:37] <mish4> have any of you gotten xgl to work on ubuntu?
[03:37] <__mikem> it might be using a different protocol to access the apge with the link
[03:37] <mish4> just out of curiosity
[03:37] <zquirm> kbrooks: where would an appropriate place be to add it to be run manually?
[03:37] <harry> is there an application that supports video, audio transfer to mobile phones on Linux??
[03:37] <__mikem> TRy accessing hitting the page from the link and see if its using a special protocol
[03:37] <marc> What can one do to find out the status of a bug report, specifically this one: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/37163 ?
[03:38] <Discipulus> Alright, well, first it isn't detecting my camera, so I'm giving up on it
[03:38] <Discipulus> Then, it didn't detect my new CD Burner
[03:38] <Discipulus> and I gave up on that
[03:38] <Discipulus> and now
[03:38] <lime4x4> mish4 i haven't yet been trying for the last couple of days
[03:38] <Discipulus> my printer isn't working
[03:38] <Discipulus> although it previously has
[03:38] <Discipulus> and I don't see anything in the menus about hardware
[03:39] <zquirm> do I need inetd?
[03:39] <Discipulus> so, question: How do I get my printer to work?
[03:39] <lime4x4> i had it running but it would only use the mesa drivers for my ati card
[03:39] <Discipulus> under Menu->Accessories->Printer Manager it says the state of the printer is "Stopped"
[03:39] <Kareem> please i have a question about SmirC
[03:40] <Kareem> i would like to install it please can someone show me how to do
[03:40] <nosklo> Discipulus, What is your printer? Are you using which version of ubuntu?
[03:40] <Discipulus> the latest version (6.06?) and it's a DeskJet 932C
[03:40] <nosklo> Discipulus, your printer is supported
[03:40] <nosklo> Discipulus, are you using ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu?
[03:40] <Discipulus> xubuntu
[03:40] <harry> is there an application that supports video, audio transfer to mobile phones on Linux??
[03:41] <Discipulus> but it started out as Ubuntu
[03:41] <Kareem> plz
[03:41] <nosklo> Discipulus, oh, this is the one I dont have here :( Try to find an "Add printer" dialog
[03:41] <nosklo> Discipulus, or run "sudo gnome-cups-add"
[03:42] <Discipulus> xubuntu sees my printer
[03:42] <spacefinn> harry: bitpim maybe? :P
[03:42] <Discipulus> it just says the status of it is "Stopped"
[03:42] <alpha255> nice the s510 logitech keyboard works fairly nicely in dapper drake! :)
[03:42] <spacefinn> that's the only one I've heard of for mobile phone transfer stuff... bitpim.org
[03:42] <spacefinn> dunno if there's a package or anything
[03:43] <harry> whats bitpim? spacefinn
[03:43] <nosklo> Discipulus, run sudo gnome-cups-manager
[03:43] <__mikem> spacefinn, at the very worse, you might be looking at a source package
[03:43] <spacefinn> it supposedly can transfer stuff to and from CDMA phones
[03:43] <nosklo> Discipulus, then right click printer and choose "start"
[03:43] <[fernando] > hello
[03:43] <spacefinn> I've never used it as I am too lazy to invest in a cable :P
[03:43] <ech0_> is it a good idea to allow kernal software upgrades via the gui tool? last time i did it via command line it crapped my system. D:
[03:43] <nosklo> [fernando] , hi, welcome to the ubuntu support channel
[03:43] <zquirm> kbrooks: how do you get a server for svn+ssh going?
[03:44] <Oddzball> Hello
[03:44] <__mikem> source packages are usually as easy as extracting them, cd'ing into the target dirrectory with a terminal, and type "make install"
[03:44] <Oddzball> Wow, lot of people in here, nice to meet you all, I am new to linux so i thought I would pop in here and lurk, maybe ask a few questions if I run into problems
[03:45] <ape_> I'm having trouble backing up my DVDs with ubuntu, any help?
[03:45] <efox> Oddzball: welcome
[03:45] <nosklo> Oddzball, this is the ubuntu support channel, welcome!
[03:45] <[Alex_G] > :-O big argument going on in #blenderp!
[03:45] <nosklo> Oddzball, if you are using ubuntu, just ask your question
[03:45] <[fernando] > please, i need some help with my wifi connection...  there's a software for scan wifi networks on gnome?
[03:46] <Discipulus> nosklo, I resumed the printer and tried to print but the printer said no
[03:46] <Oddzball> Im downloading the distro for ubuntu now, I gave madriva a try, but ubuntu seems better to me.
[03:46] <__mikem> I CAN'T GET PORTAGE TO WORK RIGHT WITH GENTOO HELP!!!, LOL just kidding
[03:46] <[fernando] > lol
[03:46] <efox> [fernando] :  iwlist scan
[03:46] <nosklo> [fernando] , i use wifi-radar
[03:46] <Oddzball> I had everything working with linux except my external monitor, couldnt figure out how to get it working.
[03:46] <fiendskull9> hey guys
[03:46] <fiendskull9> i got a problem
[03:46] <nosklo> [fernando] , but you can open a terminal and type iwlist scan
[03:47] <fiendskull9> i downloaded a deb, and while it was downloading, i synchronized my clock with a time server
[03:47] <__mikem> fiendskull9 we got solutions, ask away
[03:47] <nosklo> [fernando] , or better, sudo iwlist scan
[03:47] <efox> YAY !! i answered my first question
[03:47] <efox> lol
[03:47] <fiendskull9> now when i try to dpkg the package
[03:47] <nosklo> efox, grats
[03:47] <fiendskull9> it sais - sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun 19 01:39:50 2006
[03:47] <someothernick> *claps*
[03:47] <farous> nosklo: iwlist wlan0 / eth1 scan depending on your wirless device name
[03:47] <efox> nosklo: does this mean im not an elite noob...now im jus...a regular noob ?
[03:47] <[fernando] > wlan0     No scan results
[03:47] <farous> [fernando] : try iwconfig
[03:47] <nosklo> [fernando] , you tried that with sudo?
[03:48] <[fernando] > yes
[03:48] <farous> see if your device is recongized
[03:48] <__mikem> fiendskull9 just undo what ever you did to sinc the clock
[03:48] <nosklo> [fernando] , ok, then your device is recognizes
[03:48] <farous> nosklo: he do nto need sudo for that
[03:48] <Oddzball> Anyway I am running linux on a notebook, and want the external monitor, which I have hooked up through the DVI port, to mirror my desktop
[03:48] <[fernando] > wlan0     IEEE 802.11b+/g+
[03:48] <farous> [fernando] : do you use ndiswrapper
[03:48] <__mikem> Or wait for the time specified by the timestamp to roll around
[03:48] <nosklo> farous, to force a scan he must use sudo
[03:48] <Oddzball> for some reason the FN F7 key doesnt put out to the monitor like it does in windows...
[03:49] <nosklo> farous, without sudo all it does is read left-over scan results
[03:49] <farous> nosklo: nope
[03:49] <[fernando] > farous: nope.. ubuntu recognized my wifi card
[03:49] <Sjoerd-> hello, does anyone know a page that explains managing users via command line - or does anyone know the command for deleting one?
[03:49] <nosklo> farous, from man iwlist : Triggering  scanning  is  a privileged operation (root only) and normal users can only read left-over scan results.
[03:49] <jackson> is there some way to run an operating system installed on a partition through qemu, xen, vmware, or some other virtualization software?
[03:50] <farous> nosklo: ok :)
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> vmware
[03:50] <farous> am not on my ubuntu box now so can not check it unfourt :)
[03:50] <HedgeMage> Sjoerd-: just delete their home directory and the lines with their name from /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow, then remove just their name from any lines in /etc/group
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> workstation or server will
[03:50] <__mikem> jackson yes, just specify the physical partition rather tahn using a virtual disk
[03:50] <bintrue> Wouldn't that cause a problem with drivers and what not?
[03:50] <__mikem> I use workstation here
[03:50] <wastrel> Oddzball:  i'm guessing that's a driver-supported feature that's not implemented on the linux driver
[03:50] <efox> what do you do when you get a "failed to make blahblah.ko" ?
[03:50] <Sjoerd-> HedgeMage: Is that the only way? The way it should be done?
[03:50] <jackson> _mikem, nomasteryoda: thanks
[03:51] <__mikem> Thats what we are here for
[03:51] <nosklo> farous, try the web: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/iwlist.8.html
[03:51] <__mikem> lol
[03:51] <__mikem> Wow, I am getting cought up in the moment
[03:51] <farous> nosklo: i trust what you are saying no need to check :)
[03:51] <bintrue> hey __mikem, are you sure you can do that? I would think you'd run into kernel and driver problems because of the virtualization
[03:51] <nosklo> k :)
[03:51] <HedgeMage> Sjoerd-: that's *a* correct way.  There may be others.  I've been on linux too long I tend to do things by hand out of habit
[03:52] <[fernando] > http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5041/pantallazo5js.jpg ----> please..there's a screnshot of m y
[03:52] <__mikem> mintrue, you can. You just have it mount the parttiion rather than using a virtual disk. ITs NOT easy to do, and if you do it wrong you can really screw yourself over though
[03:52] <tb77> Sjoerd-: try userdel
[03:52] <[fernando] > wifi card
[03:52] <Sjoerd-> HedgeMage: Ok thank you :)
[03:52] <Oddzball> [wastrel] : Ok so the driver support feature doesnt support it, however I know that linux supports dual monitors, or even cloning your screen on another monitor, I just am absolutely lost as to how to make this happen since I know next to nothing about using the terminal
[03:52] <Sjoerd-> tb77: ah see there is another way.. Will that do all things HedgeMage suggested?
[03:52] <alpha255> i thought i heard there was a flash equvalent gpl plugin for firefox? Anyone know the name?
[03:52] <JuGhEaD_> If my /home directory is an ext3 partition and I share it through samba, can I write files to /home froma windows box?
[03:52] <farous> [fernando] : did you try to restart your router sometimes this help. also at first do not use any security key till you get your card working
[03:52] <schalke1> i am having a problem with apache, i have a index.html file in the public_html folder of my home directory, but when I type localhost/~myusernameishere/index.html it says 'Forbidden'
[03:53] <bintrue> __mikem that would be like taking a HD from a windows machine and plugging it into another no-where near similar machine. Thats just asking for problems
[03:53] <wastrel> Oddzball:  that will depend on which video card you have in your laptop, but it's something i've never played with so hopefully someone else will help out :[
[03:53] <wastrel> er, :]
[03:53] <alpha255> JuGhEaD_: i just create a fat32 partition that allows winxp and linux to read/write to
[03:53] <Oddzball> Well, its a Radeon Mobility 9700
[03:53] <HedgeMage> Sjoerd-: oh, and if they had sudo rights you should remove them from your sudoers file as well, in case you someday create a user with the same name
[03:53] <[fernando] > farous: ok.. i will try.. but how can i scan the networks? like windows...
[03:53] <efox> how do you correct a "failed to make module" error ?
[03:53] <tb77> Sjoerd-: don't know what you want; userdel -r username will delete user and user's /home
[03:53] <bimberi> JuGhEaD_: yes
[03:53] <JuGhEaD_> alpha, I have 80 gigs to share; I heard fat32 cannot go that high
[03:54] <bluep0p13> so does anyone in here know exactly how many distributions there are for linux?
[03:54] <farous> [fernando] : if you have gnome you can use the network manager to config your network
[03:54] <__mikem> bintrue, yes, but he said that partition doesn't run windows. I am aware of what you are talking about, We ran into that very problem when trying to rescue data from a hard drive that had been in a machine that had stopped working for reasons not related to the disk
[03:54] <Oddzball> And I know that ATI has linux drivers for the mobility 9700 that support dual monitors, I just do not understand how to install drivers in linux
[03:54] <wastrel> !tell Oddzball about ati
[03:54] <schalke1> bluep0p13: hundreds. people make their own little distributions from scratch all the time.
[03:54] <bluep0p13> ah ok
[03:55] <wastrel> Oddzball:  ubotu sent you a link about the ati driver setup for ubuntu - i'm not sure if dual monitor is covered there though.
[03:55] <__mikem> ...basicly, if that were to occur though, the worst that would happen is that he wouldn't be able to read the filesystem, however if it tries to mount it in this condition, he could damage it, there in lies the problem
[03:55] <[fernando] > farous: yes.. but i want to scan the networks to connect to them.. previusly i can do that in mandriva..
[03:55] <farous> [fernando] : thre were a couple of applets around like gtkwifi and wfimanager you can look them up
[03:55] <bluep0p13> so how complicated is linux compared to windows, for a first time user... as in the first week or so of using linux entirely
[03:55] <ubuntu> THIS UBUNTO IS BORING
[03:55] <__mikem> !ops
[03:55] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:55] <ubuntu> ITS FOR NERS
[03:55] <ubuntu> NERDS
[03:55] <ubuntu> NERDS
[03:55] <ubuntu> NERDS
[03:55] <efox> ubuntu: nice handle
[03:56] <__mikem> why do people like that exist
[03:56] <schalke1> bluep0p13: there will be quite the learning curve to see how everything works. but for commontasks like word processing etc its all really the same.
[03:56] <farous> [fernando] : unfourtanetly i do not know any program for ubuntu i suspect mandriva use network-manager which till last time i checked did not work well on ubuntu perhaps it is fixed now
[03:56] <bluep0p13> very nice, I second that
[03:56] <buggzero> because we need somebody to laugh at
[03:56] <efox> __mikem:  who knows...i think its to balance out the universe or something
[03:56] <__mikem> efox :D
[03:56] <[fernando] > farous: i will try with gtkwifi
[03:57] <someothernick> Oddzball, http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/installation/dualheadhowto.htm
[03:57] <schalke1> i am having a problem with apache, i have a index.html file in the public_html folder of my home directory, but when I type localhost/~myusernameishere/index.html it says 'Forbidden'
[03:57] <Sjoerd-> tb77: the command gives out: unable to lock password file
[03:57] <bluep0p13> well, I went into best buy and was looking at a distribution called: SuSe. now, which, if you had to pick between the two, or even more actually, is good for a complete beginner: SuSe, Ubuntu, or another perhaps?
[03:57] <efox> ok back to this problem...I get an error when trying to install something "failed to make module 'cisco_ipsec.ko" and i dont know how to resolve it
[03:57] <__mikem> Sjoerd did you try that command as root?
[03:57] <efox> any takers ?
[03:57] <tb77> Sjoerd-: as user or sudo?
[03:58] <kaizoku> whenever I try to install GoogleEarth, it just gives me an error saying "You don't see[m]  to be running an X server (no DISPLAY set)", and then aborts, I tried running "export DISPLAY=0.0", but then it just goes through the uncompression and stops
[03:58] <Sjoerd-> tb77: *blush*
[03:58] <schalke1> bluep0p13: i had suse as my first distro before this. i would definately find ubuntu easier for a beginner.
[03:58] <__mikem> efox, fraid not, Id look and see if there is a binary package for what you are trying to install
[03:58] <bluep0p13> ok, what is the big difference in the two, if I may ask?
[03:58] <alpha255> planet penguin racer is really slow on my centrino laptop? how do i fix that? the laptop is 1.8gh w/512mb of ram
[03:58] <eigenlambda> bluep0p13: this is #ubuntu. that said, ubuntu is better.
[03:58] <alpha255> xorg.conf file?
[03:58] <__mikem> alpha255 what video card do you use
[03:58] <eigenlambda> ubuntu is based on debian, suse is based on redhat
[03:59] <bluep0p13> alrighty
[03:59] <schalke1> bluep0p13: i think suse os more for corporate environments. it wasn't built for the ground up for the desktop like ubuntu is.
[03:59] <[sam] > .
[03:59] <alpha255> __mikem: built in 901 or something like that
[03:59] <[sam] > hi
[03:59] <bluep0p13> ah ok
[03:59] <wastrel> g'night
[03:59] <schalke1> is*
[03:59] <eigenlambda> ubuntu is linux for human beings, suse was recently bought by novell
[03:59] <efox> __mikem: ok, thanks.
[03:59] <bluep0p13> that explains it
[03:59] <drummer87> hi all, quick question about wireless networking.. would having 2 wifi networks at the same place cause problems with each other? ie. a wifi router and ap in the same room.
[03:59] <alpha255> __mikem: 915 i think
[04:00] <__mikem> alpha255, you are probably going to need a quality video card, (the kind you plug in to a pci slot), and you will need appropiate drivers for it)
[04:00] <nosklo> drummer87, no
[04:00] <bluep0p13> well, what's with red hat, mandrake and gentoo... lemme just say, the friend of mine who recommnended me try ubuntu actually is running gentoo
[04:00] <alpha255> __mikem: it seemed to work much better in breezy vs. dapper
[04:00] <bluep0p13> and loves it, if I may add
[04:00] <Oddzball> [someothernick]  See, but that is what I do not understand about linux, can I just edit that file while linux is running and insert what I am, isnt the file in use while using linux?
[04:00] <alpha255> __mikem:  the 915 is a direct x 9 capable chip
[04:00] <__mikem> alpha255, that leads me to believe its a driver problem
[04:01] <drummer87> nosklo: so they wouldn't interfere with each other? or would choosing different channels help?
[04:01] <alpha255> __mikem: maybe opengl config problem
[04:01] <someothernick> Oddzball,  you can edit it while its running. i would save a backup first though
[04:01] <eigenlambda> gentoo is linux for ppls who like compiling things
[04:01] <Oddzball> Like, can I edit the xorg.conf while linux is running or do i have to make a second one, then over write it formt he terminal
[04:01] <rgie> is there a good wiki on how to install lamp on ubuntu?
[04:01] <polpak> Oddzball: no
[04:01] <Kenotic> Gentoo is nice, but it is alot of work to maintain
[04:01] <bimberi> !lamp
[04:01] <buggzero> whats lamp
[04:01] <__mikem> alpha255, could be. When using any sort of linux system, nvidia cards seem to work the best
[04:01] <bluep0p13> ok
[04:01] <Oddzball> cool, so you can edit it while it is running..
[04:02] <sam1001> speaking of gentoo, 9 hours have elapsed
[04:02] <nosklo> drummer87, if you leave channels on automatic and choose different ESSIDs they should not interfere with each other
[04:02] <eigenlambda> ubuntu takes no work to maintain.  thats y i like it
[04:02] <sam1001> it's still buildin gnome
[04:02] <bimberi> ubotu tell rgie about lamp
[04:02] <drummer87> nosklo: excellent, thanks1
[04:02] <buggzero> oh my bad
[04:02] <someothernick> Oddzball, yes. but save a backup
[04:02] <someothernick> just incase
[04:02] <schalke1> how come it says 'forbidden' when i try to access my public_html through apache in firefox?
[04:02] <buggzero> i though there was an ubuntu lamp server distro?
[04:02] <xanavim> it took gentoo three weeks to  build gnome on my system
[04:02] <Kenotic> That is why I love it. I do not want to spend time to fix my tools
[04:02] <alpha255> schalke1: check your httpd.conf file
[04:02] <__mikem> ubuntu is clean stable, and has a great comunity, and its not a testbed like certain distros by redhat, thats why I love it
[04:02] <polpak> Oddzball: yes. you can edit while other things are "using" it. Though Xorg probably only "uses" the config file when it starts
[04:02] <krazykit> xanavim: you must have a really slow system then.
[04:03] <bimberi> buggzero: yes, if you boot from the server cd it offers a LAMP install
[04:03] <schalke1> alpha255: uhm, check for what?
[04:03] <xanavim> I was running virtual pc
[04:03] <alpha255> schalke1: for public folder in user's directories
[04:03] <__mikem> virtual pc sucks, vmware is king
[04:03] <rgie> tenks
[04:03] <__mikem> sorry, I shouldn't be doing that in here
[04:03] <__mikem> it won't happen again
[04:03] <polpak> !tell buggzero about lamp
[04:03] <bluep0p13> so from what I'm hearing, ubuntu is stable and secure, pretty easy to use once you get use to it and very user friends by that point too. and it just works and runs as you like it to after or even before you've customized it... do I have this correct?
[04:04] <bintrue> idealy yes
[04:04] <bintrue> but as you can see by the people in here, there will be some problems
[04:04] <bluep0p13> fair enough
[04:04] <schalke1> alpha255: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf contains just 5 lines each starting with #
[04:04] <farous> bintrue: :)
[04:04] <nathanael> Does anyone know if there is a Linux-based alternative to M$'s SysPrep for deploying images to multiple machines?
[04:04] <__mikem> bluep0p13 yup, and comunity support is never far as long as you have internet conectivity
[04:04] <nosklo> bluep0p13, that is what we want it to do, and we're pretty much achieving it
[04:04] <bluep0p13> well of course, everything has some problems, as nothing is completely 100% perfect, ever
[04:04] <polpak> buggzero: though personally I feel that linux/Apache/PostgreSQL/Python or Ruby is much preferable to Mysql and PHP
[04:05] <bintrue> nathanael, I know of Kickstart with Fedora Core, no idea if it's distro independent
[04:05] <Oddzball> Thanks a bunch guys, be back in a while, is there an IRC program on ubuntu I can use that comes preinstalled
[04:05] <prwlrr> is there a password manager that comes with ubuntu? do i need to install one? thanks
[04:05] <bluep0p13> well, there's only one small issue concerning internet and ubuntu that I have
[04:05] <nathanael> ok
[04:05] <__mikem> Fedora's main problem is that its entire userbase is a collection of guinepigs for RHEL
[04:05] <polpak> Oddzball: just go to add applications and select xchat, or xchat-gnome
[04:05] <bintrue> bluep0p13, whats that?
[04:05] <paul_> i have a stupid question. I would like to start learning how to program. So what language is most of linux and linux applications written in ?
[04:05] <bluep0p13> that is, I actually have free internet and I had set it up through internet explorer... not firefox or anything, but I can still use firefox like a charm
[04:05] <Grarg> paul_, C
[04:05] <linkd> paul_: C
[04:05] <psyoptik> I'm having an issue trying to run the Folding @ Home linux executable from a menu entry. I am trying to run it in a folder I made for it (to minimize clutter) but the only way I can get it to run from a menu entry is to run it from my relative username folder.
[04:05] <polpak> Oddzball: by default the only irc client installed is gaim =(
[04:05] <jiSh> C and lots of it :)
[04:06] <paul_> why not c++?
[04:06] <__mikem> ITs a shame because fedora isn't a bad distro, but its developers don't have the open source spirit
[04:06] <bimberi> prwlrr: i use zsafe, although admittedly on my iPAQ.  It's available in the ubuntu universe repository
[04:06] <tb77> prwlrr: you can install revelation
[04:06] <jiSh> in fact most of the internet is C and unix ;)
[04:06] <paul_> i know nothing about programming yes
[04:06] <bintrue> bluep0p13, Free internet?
[04:06] <paul_> yet
[04:06] <bluep0p13> all I did was put in a user name, telephone number and password and I was online
[04:06] <linkd> paul_: C was built before C++
[04:06] <ubuntu> hi
[04:06] <nathanael> Yum, up2date, - these are al l ROM-based equivalents
[04:06] <bluep0p13> yes, free internet
[04:06] <__mikem> jiSh, paul_ Assembly Language FOREVER !!!
[04:06] <sam1001> paul, c is used for system programming mostly
[04:06] <nathanael> *RPM
[04:06] <bluep0p13> I don't pay a single penny for it, literally
[04:06] <polpak> paul_ I'd suggest however that if you are starting to learn programming you should examine some higher level languages (python, java, ruby, etc)
[04:06] <paul_> and for programs in general?
[04:06] <__mikem> I am a c/c++ coder, but I also do Assembly Language
[04:06] <bintrue> bluep0p13, who is the provider? what kind of connection? Dial up? DSL?
[04:07] <bluep0p13> it is dial up if I might add... but it still works pretty good
[04:07] <paul_> i was thinking about starting with java....
[04:07] <bluep0p13> it's pretty fast too
[04:07] <ubuntu> i am on dsl
[04:07] <thewayofzen> Which package do i need to install to have gnomebaker burn audio cds from mp3
[04:07] <bluep0p13> I use to only get 24kbps and now I get 52kbps living in town
[04:07] <polpak> paul_ java works fine under linux
[04:07] <psyoptik> I'm trying to use multiple commands on a single command line executed from a menu entry run in the terminal and nothing seems to be running.
[04:07] <Grarg> java's not a bad language to start with
[04:07] <__mikem> paul_ if you are going to start with anything, try python, I never used it but I hear its a great beginners language that is also useful in the long run
[04:07] <bluep0p13> really, it's not that bad and it's totally free
[04:07] <bintrue> bluep0p13,  there are dial up programs with linux, I'm not personally experienced with any, but I'm sure its not that hard
[04:07] <paul_> i also know java is used in alot of high $$ prjects
[04:07] <psyoptik> terminal opens and closes, not actually opening the program that is pointed to in the command line
[04:08] <bluep0p13> ok
[04:08] <bintrue> bluep0p13, free services like internet worry me..
[04:08] <__mikem> paul_ C++ programmers also get lots of money
[04:08] <Grarg> paul_, there is no correlation between language and $$
[04:08] <polpak> paul_ so is fortran.. that doesn't mean anything
[04:08] <psyoptik> i tested the line in the terminal, which worked fine, but once its put into the menu entry command line, doesn't work
[04:08] <__mikem> polpak, what about Assembly Language any job market there?
[04:08] <bluep0p13> well, I shall continue my research and learning about ubuntu and that should help me discover the more difficult answers to my questions... and I thank all of you for all of your help
[04:08] <paul_> so c, c++ or java,,,,, what do you say?
[04:08] <sam1001> _mikem, not with opensource
[04:08] <polpak> __mikem:  not as far as I know ;p
[04:08] <bluep0p13> as linux should be, or atleast ubuntu, community help much appreciated :)
[04:09] <__mikem> paul_ learn C/C++ first
[04:09] <__mikem> Learning java first will make it harder to learn c/c++
[04:09] <Grarg> I would then someone who did mostly assembler would get paid quite well, assuming they actually could find a job
[04:09] <Grarg> paul_, what do you do now?
[04:09] <polpak> __mikem: I don't think that's true
[04:09] <mnabil> hay , what is the name of the package that extract my rar files , i'm using xubuntu
[04:09] <__mikem> It was for me
[04:09] <nmsa> hello
[04:09] <paul_> about programming?
[04:09] <Grarg> paul_, in general
[04:09] <__mikem> I started with .net languages. When I tried to move to c/c++, there were so many things I had to unlearn before it began to make sence
[04:10] <bluep0p13> well, I'm gonna go now. all take care and continue the good work being a community helping others with their issues
[04:10] <psyoptik> anyone familiar with running commands from the menu entry in Alacarte?
[04:10] <buggzero> okay damnit
[04:10] <polpak> __mikem: well, I suppose it depends on _what_ you learned from those languages
[04:10] <paul_> hacking, servers, advanced networking, xhtml, geeksquad certified,
[04:10] <Grarg> some languages are easier to pick up depending on how you already think
[04:10] <paul_> more ... just my brain is not working
[04:10] <prwlr> paul_, get your feet wet by doing a scripting lang first if you haven't programmed anything before
[04:10] <marc> Is there a 2.4 kernel for dapper, I do not see one on my repos
[04:10] <nmsa> I need your help setting up my sound back to normal in ubuntu. looks like the wrong modules are loaded
[04:10] <mnabil> hay , what is the name of the package that extract my rar files , i'm using xubuntu
[04:10] <mnabil> hay , what is the name of the package that extract my rar files , i'm using xubuntu
[04:10] <buggzero> ive just hit shift+backspace 2x
[04:10] <jiSh> python :O
[04:10] <__mikem> polpak, good point. Still, learning java first, I still advise against it.
[04:10] <prwlr> but some people get by learning asm first so YMMV depending on your gusto to learn
[04:11] <sam1001> paul, learn .net
[04:11] <farous> marc no
[04:11] <buggzero> how do I disable that?
[04:11] <jiSh> start with python IMO
[04:11] <tb77> mnabil: file-roller
[04:11] <__mikem> prwlr, there is NO WAY anyone can just learn assembly as their first language.
[04:11] <polpak> paul_ I'd suggest starting with python. it's already installed, it has an interactive interpreter, a lot of modules, it's cross platform and most importantly it's fun ;)
[04:11] <farous> marc: i checked for i needed it so. warty have one but it breaks the syst
[04:11] <jiSh> "print HELLO"
[04:11] <Grarg> paul_, I'm going to agree about python
[04:11] <jiSh> omfg i made something! :P
[04:11] <__mikem> jish that would be basic and that isn't even correct
[04:11] <sam1001> it's like BASIC
[04:11] <polpak> paul_ just open a terminal and type python.. go from there =)
[04:11] <jiSh> lol
[04:11] <Grarg> mnabil, unrar
[04:12] <__mikem> sam1001 asm is NOT like basic
[04:12] <paul_> i think i might start with python and POSSIBY start with c/c++ later down the road. PS: im only 16 years old
[04:12] <marc> farous: do you know of a good link to a howto for a noobie to compile a custom kernel, i ned to disable EFI
[04:12] <nathanael> Thanks for the kickstart help - love you all! Love ubuntu! Ciao!
[04:12] <mnabil> Grarg, it failed
[04:12] <polpak> __mikem: I think he was talking about .net
[04:12] <prwlr> __mikem, hackers of old did... it's not impossible... hell after basic on c64 i did asm on dos so there...
[04:12] <mnabil> i hate this
[04:12] <Grarg> mnabil, what failed, and how?
[04:12] <farous> marc: i always take the easy way so never compiled the kernel
[04:12] <tb77> mnabil: unrar x file.rar or use file-roller
[04:12] <eigenlambda> basic sucks. asm sucks, but it has an excuse to.
[04:12] <mnabil> Grarg, i can unrar with it
[04:12] <prwlr> paul_, python is a nice first lang but i ruby is quite nice too...
[04:12] <mnabil> Grarg, it's unrar-free
[04:13] <__mikem> prwlr, I know the x86 asm language, I never even owned a comador, so that doesn't really mean that much to me
[04:13] <Grarg> mnabil, what's the error?
[04:13] <buggzero> anyone know how to take out the shift+backspace gnome restart
[04:13] <paul_> best of all. i will start programming with my new pent. D and asus mobo comming in the mail soon.
[04:13] <marc> farous: darn problems with EFI, with it enabled it reports the wrong disk size for some ipods, mine being one so I cant sync my pod
[04:13] <disinterested> being as i deleted xp from my hd when i put breezy in is there a way to install xp back in?
[04:13] <Grarg> buggzero, some where in the X config files, there is an option to turn off "zapping" I believe it's called
[04:13] <farous> marc: i would check kernel source website and gentoo forums if i were you
[04:13] <__mikem> paul_ do yourself a favor and learn C and C++ first. For one thing if you do. YOu are already in prefect standing to learn assembly language
[04:13] <prwlr> __mikem,  i meant anyone can learn *anything* depending on the person...
[04:14] <paul_> reinstall XP
[04:14] <__mikem> oh ok
[04:14] <polpak> mnabil: there's both unrar and unrar-free
[04:14] <Grarg> __mikem, no one really uses assembler if they can avoid it
[04:14] <Grarg> in most cases
[04:14] <disinterested> paul i tried that and there is no previous image
[04:14] <ice109> can someone help me out
[04:14] <ice109> ?
[04:14] <__mikem> Grarg, I am a masocist
[04:14] <Grarg> ice109, ask
[04:14] <__mikem> BUt I do most of my code in C/C++
[04:15] <marc> farous: I am a complete noob, so I need a good howto.  I have been everywhere and alas found nothing really definitive about turning EFI off, so until I find a step by step I am screwed
[04:15] <Grarg> __mikem, I'm not saying it isn't fun, I'm just saying few noobs are going to pick it up as their 1st or 2nd language
[04:15] <ice109> i want to dual boot winxp and ubuntu. so i installed ubuntu then i repartitioned my drive and installed winxp now ubuntu isn't bootable
[04:15] <buggzero> did you say gconf or xorg.conf?
[04:15] <marc> ice109:always install XP first, makes your life easier
[04:15] <polpak> Grarg: I still haven't bothered to learn assembler.. C is about as low level as I want to get ;p
[04:15] <Standalone> did you use boot magic
[04:15] <theBishop> can anyone tell me what packages i need to start coding in C with GTK?
[04:16] <polpak> Grarg: and I know a lot of languages
[04:16] <ice109> Standalone are you talking to me?
[04:16] <Standalone> yes
[04:16] <Grarg> buggzero, probably xorg.conf
[04:16] <ice109> marc well it's a little late for that now
[04:16] <Grarg> polpak, it's fun
[04:16] <Grarg> not terribly useful, but fun
[04:16] <prwlr> ice109, get any live linux if you dont have boot floppies, man grub
[04:16] <tb77> ice109: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:16] <SurfnKid>  could someone explain or send me a link with instructions to understand the purpose of X and the Windows Manager or the GUI part. and How to disable/enable automatically on bootup
[04:16] <ice109> man grub?
[04:16] <Standalone> cus i just got that ubina
[04:16] <__mikem> polpak, I thought that at first also. I learned using Randyll Hyde's HLA. After I was up to snuff with that I slowly weened myself off of HLA and Now I just use GAS. It wasn't that hard and you won't believe how fasinating it can be
[04:16] <polpak> theBishop:  build-essential  and  libgtk2.0-dev
[04:17] <marc> ice109, try this page, towards the bottom http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[04:17] <paul_> oh and im also a photoshop guru, build servers, tech support for corps, ....
[04:17] <__mikem> paul_ my cup holder broke
[04:17] <__mikem> lol
[04:17] <prwlr> ice109, you don't have to install XP first.. you can trick it that it's using the first partition through grub
[04:17] <paul_> duct tape
[04:17] <BrownMan> hey all
[04:17] <paul_> :)
[04:17] <__mikem> lmfao
[04:17] <buggzero> paul how many filters do you have
[04:17] <erik_> I've installed SUN JRE 1.5 from multiverse... still I can't run frostwire:
[04:17] <erik_> Starting FrostWire...
[04:17] <erik_> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[04:17] <erik_> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[04:17] <BrownMan> have they gotten an encoder for Banshee to play itunes files yet?
[04:17] <buggzero> paul i need something to file serv my breakfast
[04:18] <ice109> so all i have to do is install grub in mbr and im saved?
[04:18] <polpak> erik_: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:18] <schalke1> is there some sort of GUI frontend for Apache configuration?
[04:18] <paul_> no tech support as in, our servers are down, and i get the logs and resolve the problems remotely with ssh
[04:18] <BHSPitLappy> hey lilo
[04:18] <paul_> that was about a year ago
[04:18] <lilo> heya BHSPitLappy
[04:18] <erik_> polpak: thanx
[04:18] <Grarg> paul_, you don't use perl already?
[04:18] <polpak> erik_: and dont paste in here next time pls
[04:18] <__mikem> paul_, have you ever seen this, http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid
[04:18] <paul_> no
[04:18] <efox> well i think i figured out my problem...ive been using the wrong kernel headers...
[04:18] <paul_> yes
[04:18] <ice109> so all i have to do is install grub in mbr and im saved?
[04:18] <erik_> polpak: you mean paste from console?
[04:18] <efox> lets hope me gettin these ones will work
[04:18] <polpak> paul_: perl is evil
[04:18] <buggzero> paul how does one become a self dubbed photoshop guru
[04:18] <erik_> ok
[04:18] <paul_> i have seen rinkworks and no i have not used perl
[04:19] <BrownMan> Any Banshee lovers in here?  Why isn't it playing my itunes files?  Where is the decoder?
[04:19] <Grarg> polpak, agreed
[04:19] <erik_> bye guys!
[04:19] <polpak> erik_: yes, see the topic
[04:19] <prwlr> ice109, yup
[04:19] <efox> i LOVE this whole terminal thing...*sigh* im such a n00b
[04:19] <ice109> k
[04:19] <__mikem> Pearl, can't see the point. I do just fine in C/C++/asm
[04:19] <ice109> will it autoconfigure?
[04:19] <eigenlambda> itunes files... you mean aac
[04:19] <BrownMan> yes
[04:19] <eigenlambda> you need the aac codec.  um.
[04:19] <marc> ice109: that link helpful?
[04:19] <ice109> brownman you talking to me?
[04:19] <BrownMan> no ice, sorry
[04:19] <davfigue> Good evening to everybody
[04:19] <Grarg> __mikem, have you ever used prolog, lisp, or another type of language
[04:20] <nomin> do I install the win32 codecs on dapper the same way it's done on breezy?
[04:20] <BrownMan> Eigen:  Banshee used to play them until 6.06, when they changed it
[04:20] <__mikem> Um, no, Ive heard of them, and I heard they are really painfull
[04:20] <psyoptik> try automatix
[04:20] <buggzero> paul_ paul are you listening to me
[04:20] <ice109> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows that one is pretty explanatory
[04:20] <polpak> __mikem: try out python. it's all kinds of fun
[04:20] <jrib> nomin: yes
[04:20] <BrownMan> Eigen:  So now I've been trying to find a codec but no luck
[04:20] <paul_> like RIGHT NOW!!, im ssh'ing into a remote server in another state and downloading my files, all 20 GB of them
[04:20] <jrib> ubotu: tell nomin about w32codecs
[04:20] <Grarg> __mikem, they can be painful, but only cause they're different, they can also be quite useful
[04:20] <paul_> buggzero,  what?
[04:20] <__mikem> polpak, Ive seen python, it looks fun, I just can't get over the "interpreted" part
[04:20] <eigenlambda> it's called libfaad
[04:20] <psyoptik> nomin: try automatix for installing all sorts of fun codecs and programs hassle free
[04:20] <BrownMan> libfaad?
[04:20] <BrownMan> ok
[04:20] <eigenlambda> it's in one of the gstreamer-plugins
[04:20] <BrownMan> ill search for it thanks
[04:20] <__mikem> Grarg, the only esotoric language i have ever used is O'CAML
[04:20] <__mikem> and SML
[04:20] <buggzero> how do you become a self-proclaimed photoshop guru
[04:21] <polpak> __mikem: nothing wrong with interpreted languages
[04:21] <eigenlambda> buggzero: by proclaiming yourself one
[04:21] <Grarg> prolog and lisp are not esoteric
[04:21] <theBishop> polpak, do i have to set any ENV variables to use the libraries?  GCC isn't finding them
[04:21] <Grarg> brainfsck is esoteric
[04:21] <__mikem> I stuck with those for a month, and after that I just said screw this
[04:21] <eigenlambda> wow, that was obvious
[04:21] <prwlr> buggzero, hehe
[04:21] <jrib> buggzero: watch: I am a photoshop guru :P
[04:21] <buggzero> i dont know why but i belive jrib
[04:21] <__mikem> brain**** is also limited in what it can do
[04:21] <eigenlambda> photoshop isucks
[04:21] <davfigue> Anybody knows how to create /dev/eth0 ?
[04:21] <eigenlambda> gimp > photoshop
[04:21] <buggzero> lol
[04:21] <eigenlambda> gimp > xbmp > photoshop
[04:21] <buggzero> thats funny
[04:21] <polpak> theBishop: no.. if you pass the right option to the linker it should be fine
[04:21] <ice109> )))))))) i just remembered . in ubuntu live i can't mount any of my partitions
[04:21] <prwlr> jrib, lol
[04:22] <ice109> is this going to affect the grub install?
[04:22] <theBishop> polpak, i'm following the gtk tuts
[04:22] <mnabil> hay guys i can't unrar my files
[04:22] <bingogu> firefox can't open the url www.tom.com, will pls help me
[04:22] <buggzero> eigen your obviouly never made anything for print
[04:22] <mnabil> what gonna i do
[04:22] <paul_> oh, i went to class the first day to learn photoshop, and with almost no photoshop experience, i outpreformed the teacher and anybody else, so i passed on the first day and only sat and browsed the internet for the rest of the class
[04:22] <theBishop> polpak, gcc main.c -o main `pkg-config -- cflags --libs gtk+-2.0`
[04:22] <Grarg> __mikem, you of all people should know that brainfsck is a turing complete language, and can therefore do anything
[04:22] <nomin> thanks psyoptik, automatix looks pretty useful
[04:22] <prwlr> eigenlambda, yeah
[04:22] <psyoptik> nomin: its nice, especially after a fresh install
[04:22] <buggzero> and what day are you on now paul_
[04:23] <samsonasu> hey can anybody help me with my network not working on a new install
[04:23] <bingogu> help me
[04:23] <BrownMan> Eigen:  Is there an .m4a encoder for banshee yet?
[04:23] <BHSPitLappy> anyone familiar with getting the ipw2200bg wifi card detected in dapper?
[04:23] <BrownMan> Eigen:  Banshee doesn't play those either
[04:23] <paul_> i was over that class about a month ago
[04:23] <__mikem> Grarg, last I heard, it only had a couple of intrinsic console functions built in and no support for system calls, and import libraries
[04:23] <BHSPitLappy> (the Dell Inspiron 6000 stock card)
[04:23] <tb77> mnabil: open a  terminal, sudo apt-get install unrar, unrar x file.rar
[04:23] <paul_> and for the final written test i got a 95%, highest in the class and without opening the book
[04:23] <Grarg> doesn't mean you can't theoretically do everything in it
[04:24] <buggzero> so where can I see your guru-ness
[04:24] <polpak> theBishop: one sec
[04:24] <prwlr> bingogu, can it open any other sites? like google?
[04:24] <__mikem> IF you want to recompile the compiler so that it supports system calls and import libraries
[04:24] <mnabil> tb77, i'm using xubuntu and unrar pkg don't found
[04:24] <samsonasu> my network works for like 10 seconds after i reboot and then i get unreachable
[04:24] <psyoptik> HSPitLappy: have you looked at ndiswrapper? It can help with a lot of wifi card problems
[04:24] <samsonasu> to my router
[04:24] <lonegeek> Help!!!! i loaded up partition magic to resize ntfs partion and it fucked up at 99 %....Now windows wont boot and i cant mount it in linux....linux says no free space on it..... I really need help accessing it..i had all my mp3s on it and videos!!!
[04:24] <davfigue> I was programming using pcap lib, and I lost /dev/eth0, anybody has an idea to recover it ?
[04:24] <__mikem> but theoretical, is a word that usually leads to nowhere in programming. Unless you have a concept on HOW to do it, it remains just a theory
[04:24] <tb77> tb77: sorry install unrar-nonfree
[04:24] <thomasM> k i have a problem, i think i messed up my fstab. i cannot mount cds anymore. could somebody help me out?
[04:25] <DShepherd> hehehe
[04:25] <BrownMan> Room:  Anyone know how to encode .m4a files in Banshee?
[04:25] <DShepherd> lonegeek: that sound sticky bad
[04:25] <BHSPitLappy> psyoptik: yeah, I just thought it was supposed to work out-of-the-box for some reason
[04:25] <tb77> mnabil: do you have the multiverse repo's enabled?
[04:25] <mnabil> tb77, i 've it enabled
[04:26] <thomasM> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0  : Does that look right for mounting a cd?
[04:26] <buggzero> paul_ where can I see your l33tness
[04:26] <polpak> theBishop: there's a typo.. it should be pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0  No space between -- and cflags
[04:26] <lonegeek> DShepherd: um sticky bad?
[04:26] <Bilange> thomasM:  yes, but theres a missing comma: "iso9660,user" should be more correct
[04:26] <tb77> mnabil: unrar should be there in multiverse
[04:26] <psyoptik> BHSPitLappy: not all network cards work ofb. Most do, but a lot of times it needs tweaking. does it not have anything for the wifi card under iwconfig?
[04:26] <EmilyN> BrownMan: have you visited https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to look at how to install the apple format support?
[04:26] <davfigue> I was programming using pcap lib, and I lost /dev/eth0, anybody has an idea to recover it ?
[04:26] <thomasM> ahh thankyou Bilange
[04:26] <Bilange> no prob :)
[04:27] <thomasM> no your wrong man
[04:27] <thomasM> sorry
[04:27] <polpak> thomasM: umm that's not right
[04:27] <thomasM> those are the filesystems.
[04:27] <thomasM> filesystems are not options
[04:27] <theBishop> polpak, doesn't work that way either
[04:27] <samsonasu> yea thomasM the line you pasted earlier looks perfect
[04:27] <BrownMan> Emily:  Will look thanks
[04:27] <DShepherd> lonegeek: not good. not good at all. its not an ubuntu problem though.. so you maybe asking in vain....
[04:27] <Bilange> eww sorry, my mistake
[04:27] <thomasM> argh... why will it not mount than?
[04:27] <thomasM> Bilange i'm not taking it personally.
[04:27] <thomasM> :D
[04:27] <theBishop> polpak, nvm, it works
[04:27] <theBishop> :_
[04:27] <samsonasu> do you see any errors
[04:27] <Bilange> otherwise im not sure about the udf option, I dont think I have it
[04:28] <__mikem> brb
[04:28] <buggzero> who was telling me about getting rid of zapping in xorg.conf
[04:28] <mnabil> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:28] <mnabil> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:28] <lonegeek> BShepherd: i wanna know if in linux can i fix it
[04:28] <mnabil> tb77, \
[04:28] <thomasM> could somebody paste real quick an example of how they mount their cds?
[04:28] <megasquid> i have my gnome-panel transparent, but the active window on the panel is opaque is there anyway to make the active window transparent too?
[04:28] <sneex> -loop
[04:28] <sneex> ^^
[04:28] <thomasM> megasquid that annoyed me too.
[04:28] <prwlr> damn, my ntfs part can't be read
[04:29] <Bilange> thomasM:  you had the exact same line than mine, also called hdc on my system
[04:29] <shad0w1e> anyone familiar with an issue where my screen dies when I resize in middle of nano?
[04:29] <megasquid> thomasM: no fix?
[04:29] <Bilange> that is: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:29] <NoxiousKarn> any one  have any advice for geting java to work on horay hedhog?
[04:29] <mnabil> tb77,
[04:29] <mnabil> tb77, deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:29] <mnabil> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:29] <DShepherd> lonegeek: it sounds like your filesystem is messed up
[04:29] <mnabil> is that the multi !
[04:29] <sneex> mount -loop /dev/hdc /mnt
[04:29] <thomasM> o wait i don't have a second hard drive anymore! i put it in a usb enclosure... so it would be hdb and hdc
[04:29] <goinup> hi-- does anyone have experience getting ubuntu to boot from a 3ware 8000 series sata raid card?
[04:29] <thomasM> right?
[04:29] <tb77> mnabil: you want deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[04:29] <thomasM> if i have one hard drive?
[04:30] <buggzero> what the hell happen to Paul_ I wantedx to see some guru photoshop work
[04:30] <DShepherd> lonegeek: you may have to reformat your drive... and there's no guarentee you get back your files
[04:30] <NoxiousKarn> anyone have issues installing java
[04:30] <mnabil> tb77, and ??!
[04:30] <NoxiousKarn> i can't get it  to work
[04:30] <DShepherd> !anyone
[04:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[04:30] <brett> Quick question... what terminal command shows the IP addres of the PC?
[04:30] <tb77> mnabil: post you full sources.list at pastebin
[04:30] <ZDUX> hi, I'm trying to get japanese on my computer (cannot type in japanese)
[04:30] <Bilange> thomasM:  im not sure about USB external drives, but if they are handled just like flash-based USB drives, they should be seen from /dev/sd{a,b,c,...}
[04:31] <DShepherd> brett: ifconfig
[04:31] <brett> gracias
[04:31] <polpak> brett: ifconfig -a will show the configuration of your interfaces
[04:31] <DShepherd> brett: np
[04:31] <sneex> ipconfig /all is windows   ifconfig eth0 is linux
[04:31] <thomasM> Bilange yes, but it used to be hdb, so i had my cds at hdc and hdd, so taking away a hard drive would then make the cds hdb and hdc would it not?
[04:31] <moonunit> i have a problem with audio in .mpg format using dapper
[04:32] <walterk> hello guys
[04:32] <ubuntu> hi, how do I get my floppy disk drive to mount while in the live CD?
[04:32] <moonunit> (no sound with my videos)
[04:32] <DShepherd> sneex: assuming its eth0's info you want
[04:32] <thomasM> moonunit, what format is the sound encoded in?
[04:32] <sneex> true
[04:32] <moonunit> thomasM, no clue
[04:32] <iiiears> ubuntu - mount /media/floppy -o rw      ?
[04:32] <walterk> i have a problem trying to compile mplayer latest svn for myself followed the instructions in the How To Forums vut when i get to "make" i get this error
[04:32] <polpak> ubuntu go to Places->computer right click the floppy drive and select Mount Volumn
[04:32] <Bilange> thomasM:  nope, hda and hdb are from the primary IDE channel/cable, hdc and hdd are from the secondary channel/cable
[04:33] <walterk> Makefile:7: config.mak: No such file or directory
[04:33] <walterk> make: *** No rule to make target `config.mak'.  Stop.
[04:33] <mnabil> tb77, http://pastebin.com/717654
[04:33] <samsonasu> so nobody has any ideas about why my network only works for about 10 seconds when i reboot?
[04:33] <tb77> mnabil: here's mine; http://pastebin.com/717657
[04:33] <__mikem> ok Im back
[04:33] <thomasM> Bilange, thanks again..
[04:33] <iiiears> ubuntu - mount /dev/floppy0 /media/floppy -o rw      ?
[04:33] <ubuntu> it tells me "Unable to Mount the selected Volume"
[04:34] <Bilange> thomasM:  and also, hda/hdc are drives which was configured as master, hdb/hdd are slaves... so if you're used to messing around with jumpers on your hard drives/cdroms, this is quite familiar (once you know how it works)
[04:34] <samsonasu> my net worked perfect with the livecd but only works 10 seconds at a time after i installed
[04:34] <ubuntu> lemme try that iii
[04:34] <ardchoille> walterk, did you run ./configure first?
[04:34] <efox> What does "you need to mke sure you have /usr/src/linux symlink pointing to the appropriate kernel source directory " mean ?
[04:34] <megasquid> i'm getting a timestamp too far error when i try to issue sudos does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:34] <tb77> mnabil: just add multiverse after deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[04:34] <ubuntu> only root can do that...
[04:34] <tb77> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[04:35] <Bilange> thomasM:  either way, you can always look at the output of "dmesg" to see how ubuntu/linux is using your hard drives
[04:35] <thomasM> Bilange, it wouldn't matter because i have two of them. one is slave, one is master, one is hdc, one is hdd, i don't care how they line up i just want them to mount!
[04:35] <thomasM> lol
[04:35] <davfigue> I need help to recover /dev/eth0 ...
[04:35] <iiiears> ubuntu - To be honest i am not very good at this. Have been "cheating" and used the winmac_fstab.sh script http://seveas.ubuntulinux.com
[04:35] <tb77> mnabil: then sudo apt-get update
[04:35] <moonunit> i have no audio while playing a .mpeg movie with totem
[04:35] <NotUbuntu> hahaha
[04:35] <NotUbuntu> thats cool.
[04:35] <NotUbuntu> how do I get to root on the live CD?
[04:35] <sneex> sudo
[04:35] <__mikem> passwd root
[04:35] <samsonasu> sudo /bin/bash
[04:35] <NotUbuntu> root wouldn't work on my hard install either.
[04:36] <moonunit> NotUbuntu, ubuntu doesent really use root user
[04:36] <ardchoille> NotUbuntu, use sudo
[04:36] <moonunit> it uses sudo
[04:36] <iiiears> NotUbuntu,  - Sudo -s   or gksudo <app_name> for graphical apps.
[04:36] <Bilange> thomasM:  so whats going wrong with the mounting? I mean, what does it say when you try to mount hdc?
[04:36] <ThePub> NotUbuntu:  root is not setup by default, as other have said use "sudo"
[04:36] <__mikem> sudo passwd root<enter>[your password] <enter>root<enter>root<enter>su<enter>root
[04:36] <ZDUX> could someone help me to type japanese in dapper?
[04:36] <Bilange> (sorry, im halfway in a major update process in my ubuntu installation, im quite slow for the moment :P )
[04:36] <iiiears> NotUbuntu,  use   exit to kill the root session.
[04:36] <prwlr> what apps do you have installed in your ubuntu boxens?
[04:37] <thomasM> Bilange, problem fixed, turns out i accidentally deleted the mount point D:
[04:37] <NotUbuntu> k
[04:37] <moonunit> i need help with the sound in mpeg videos in totem running under dapper
[04:37] <NotUbuntu> must specify the filesystem type..
[04:37] <megasquid> i'm getting a timestamp too far error when i try to issue sudos does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:37] <ThePub> megasquid:  too far?  have you set your clock back behind when you last used the installed files?
[04:37] <prwlr> how can i play dvds in ubuntu?
[04:38] <iiiears> Is it possible to mount a samba drive automatically on boot up? (shared disk is on a windows machine.)
[04:38] <buggzero> VLC
[04:38] <__mikem> I am going on a trip, do you recomend I use Knoppix, or Gnoppix?
[04:38] <tb77> moonunit: totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[04:38] <davfigue> I lost /dev/eth0, anybody has an idea to recover it ?
[04:38] <polpak> moonunit: did you install the codecs and totem-xine ?
[04:38] <NotUbuntu> what would be the syntax to specify a filesystem type?
[04:38] <megasquid> ThePub, no I haven't set changed it its been doing that since I installed
[04:39] <moonunit> tb77, to be honest, im not sure
[04:39] <iiiears> prwlr, dvdcss - check out ubotu's link on restricted formats
[04:39] <moonunit> i followed  the restriced formats directions
[04:39] <polpak> !tell iiiears about ntfs
[04:39] <ardchoille> __mikem, that depends.. do you like KDE or Gnome ?
[04:39] <iiiears> !restrictedformats
[04:39] <ubotu> see !restricted
[04:39] <iiiears> !restricted
[04:39] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[04:39] <ThePub> megasquid:  sounds like you've time shifted backwards :)
[04:39] <__mikem> I like kde, but I also like the idea that Gnoppix is basedon Ubuntu
[04:40] <ardchoille> __mikem, hmm.. take both?
[04:40] <__mikem> I just might
[04:40] <megasquid> ThePub: the date that it lists when it gives that error keeps moving a couple hours ahead of me
[04:40] <ardchoille> very soon
[04:40] <iiiears> How does Cannonical afford all the bandwidth we use and still give away free CDs with "shipIt" - amazing.
[04:40] <tb77> moonunit: if it's totem-xine then try installing libxine-extracodecs
[04:41] <BrownMan> Room:  Hey all, I can't import any of my songs from my ntfs file system on Windows
[04:41] <moonunit> tb77, k
[04:41] <BrownMan> Room:  Is this a write/read issue?
[04:41] <__mikem> iiiears, people donate millions of dollars to the company, the people over at debian hate ubutu because its taking over "their good work"
[04:41] <JayR168> ubotu, bot
[04:41] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:41] <ron_o> iiiears, money. :)
[04:41] <n30n> whenever i go to launch World of Warcraft, ubuntu logs out
[04:41] <BrownMan> Room:  If so, how do I enable banshee to import from ntfs...it used to do so
[04:41] <ardchoille> __mikem, Mepis is at 6.0-rc1 now:  http://www.mepis.org/node/10296
[04:41] <__mikem> ubotu bad bot
[04:41] <ubotu> No, you're a bad person, __mikem
[04:41] <n30n> !wine
[04:41] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[04:41] <WiseOdd> sb plz help me... im trying to figure out how to mount bin files (like with daemon tools on windows). how do i do that?
[04:41] <davfigue> I lost /dev/eth0, could anybody help me ?
[04:41] <iiiears> __mikem - What is the stable debian kernel at 2.0.xx - lol
[04:41] <WiseOdd> im a 2tal linux n00b....
[04:41] <JayR168> !beer
[04:41] <ubotu> somebody said beer was proof of the existence of God, and that he loves us.
[04:42] <polpak> WiseOdd: please.. use english, not AOLspeak.
[04:42] <ron_o> __mikem, the person who has donated, most if not all the money to it, is the Pres of Canonical.
[04:42] <ron_o> Shuttleworth,  I believe.
[04:42] <sneex> WiseOdd, you will need a cue/bin mounter  --  check the apt-cache policy or search
[04:42] <BrownMan> Anyone know how to get Banshee to import songs from a Windows filesystem?  It used to do so...
[04:42] <iiiears> I sent Cannonical a few dollars. - though i seriously doubt 25 dollars covers it.
[04:42] <__mikem> Ubuntu has heald first place on distrowatch for several years now. I don't think there is a single distro that can brag that
[04:42] <WiseOdd> read my first line then... english enough for you?
[04:43] <lonegeek> How can i non destructively change hard drive formats
[04:43] <ardchoille> iiiears, every bit helps :)
[04:43] <WiseOdd> thanx sneek!
[04:43] <polpak> WiseOdd: it's fine, but I cannot answer your question
[04:43] <ron_o> iiiears, that's a good start.. if everyone did that then they and all the rest of the OS community would do just great.
[04:43] <WiseOdd> ok. thanks anyway :)
[04:43] <sneex> lonegeek, backup and reformat  ;-)
[04:43] <ron_o> the problem is most don't..
[04:43] <__mikem> ardchoille, Id be happy to donate $100, but I am stilll legally a minor in the US
[04:43] <JayR168> is there a google earth for LInux?
[04:43] <lonegeek> sneex: what if i cant access hard drive lol
[04:43] <n30n> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[04:43] <n30n> Creating link /root/.kde/socket-ubuntu.
[04:43] <n30n> can't create mcop directory
[04:44] <sneex> there are tools that will alsmot mount anything lonegeek
[04:44] <sneex> almost*
[04:44] <the_Duke> hi
[04:44] <BrownMan> Anyone?  Importing songs from Windows?
[04:44] <NotUbuntu> /home/ubuntu/Desktop/yk51x86_71413.zip
[04:44] <NotUbuntu> wtf
[04:44] <ardchoille> __mikem, have a parent donate it in your name?
[04:44] <lonegeek> sneex: such as..... because linux isnt mounting it anymore....it used to do it automatically
[04:44] <sneex> k brb
[04:45] <__mikem> my parrents are stubern and wouldn't hear of it
[04:45] <JayR168> is there a google earth for ubuntu?
[04:45] <hyphenated> JayR168: you can download the beta from google
[04:45] <__mikem> Google Earth is writen in java so it should work as is
[04:45] <davfigue> JayR168: ye it is ...
[04:45] <ardchoille> __mikem, :(
[04:45] <walterk> i have a problem trying to compile mplayer latest svn
[04:45] <ardchoille> JayR168, iirc, there is a Linux client for google earth now
[04:45] <iiiears> lonegeek - check out the mounter or winmac_fstab Seveas wrote. http://seaveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:46] <__mikem> you don't need to compile it, you can just apt-get it
[04:46] <walterk> followed the instructions in the How To Forums but when i get to "make" i get this error
[04:46] <walterk> make: *** No rule to make target `config.mak'.  Stop.
[04:46] <walterk> Makefile:7: config.mak: No such file or directory
[04:46] <WiseOdd> hmm. i downloaded a .bin file and automatically thougt i would have to mount it to use it... its the install file for JRE. Do i need to mount it? Can i just open it with some program...?
[04:46] <ardchoille> walterk, did you run ./configure ?
[04:46] <BrownMan> If anyone can help me with a banshee issue, please join #banshee!
[04:46] <BrownMan> thanks
[04:47] <Meekrok> hey everyone
[04:47] <Meekrok> I got a quick question, I'm a IRC newbie
[04:47] <buggzero> how do i edit my xmodmap?
[04:47] <iiiears> WiseOdd, give sudo sh <file_name> or simply sh <file_name>
[04:48] <lonegeek> iiiears: mounter as in disks under system?
[04:48] <WiseOdd> heh. as i said... Linux newbie :) Thanks!
[04:48] <Meekrok> I'm trying to update my distrib to 6.06, and everytime I do, I get an error: Failed to fetch http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu/breezy/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[04:48] <davfigue> I lost /dev/eth0, could anybody help me ?, Does anybody had this problem ?
[04:48] <Meekrok> and: Failed to fetch http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu/breezy/Sources.gz 404 Not Found
[04:48] <polpak> WiseOdd: don't install java that way
[04:48] <walterk> yes i did rubn
[04:48] <walterk> i did run ./config
[04:48] <JayR168> thanks
[04:48] <walterk>  *./configure
[04:48] <KrisWood> ok I'm back, now to get my wacom tablet working once and for all. Anyone around at the moment who's got one working?
[04:49] <bimberi> Meekrok: make sure you only have ubuntu repositories enabled in your sources.list
[04:49] <polpak> WiseOdd: you don't need to download from Sun's site.. Java is in the repositories
[04:49] <iiiears> WiseOdd, If that doesn't work you can change it to an executeable file with sud0 chmod a+x <file_name> or right click and change it's permissions from the desktop.
[04:49] <Meekrok> and how would I change that again?
[04:49] <polpak> iiiears: you aren't helping
[04:49] <tb77> Meekrok: delete that line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:49] <n30n> I need some serious help configuring world of warcraft
[04:49] <iiiears> polpak,  - Oops sorry. (not at all unusual actually. - lol)
[04:50] <__mikem> Im going to bed. Good night
[04:50] <WiseOdd> i know its in the repositories, and it says its installed. Still i cant figure out why azureus wont work... its using java so i thought it would be worth trying...
[04:50] <polpak> WiseOdd: no, don't
[04:50] <polpak> WiseOdd: you installed sun-java5-bin ?
[04:50] <ardchoille> good nite __mikem
[04:51] <Meekrok> err....I'm sorry, I forget how to even access that.  As I said, I'm a big newb with this
[04:51] <polpak> WiseOdd: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[04:51] <iiiears> WiseOdd, P2P and java is a bad idea. - P2P is a big minefield in itself.
[04:51] <ardchoille> note to self, learn to type faster
[04:51] <WiseOdd> polpak: dunno... ill check...
[04:51] <NotUbuntu> what kind of filesystem is a floppy drive?
[04:51] <polpak> WiseOdd: or you can use synaptic
[04:51] <Bilange> anyone has any clues with the issue with grub where the system wont boot when you change your harddrive's position?
[04:51] <bimberi> n30n: i saw something about WoW on the wine wikipage - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine
[04:51] <polpak> NotUbuntu: it could be anything. fat16, fat32, ext3, whatever you want
[04:51] <walterk> anyone know why the problem with using "make" for the latest svn of mplayer
[04:52] <Toma-> Anyone know anything about this? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/1059
[04:52] <iiiears> Bilange - Is there an option in the BIOS to select the boot from drive?
[04:52] <WiseOdd> polpak: thx ill try that...
[04:52] <polpak> NotUbuntu: if it's readable in windows (or intended to be) then it's probably fat16 or 32 and you can just use vfat as the fstype
[04:52] <Bilange> iiiears:  yeah, I got this part correct... the problem is when grub tries to load from my former (old) drive position
[04:53] <sneex> davfigue, try re-enabling eth0 using ifconfig
[04:53] <polpak> WiseOdd: if you install sun-java5-bin and then use sudo update-alternatives --config java to set the default java version to the sun one you should be fine
[04:53] <Bilange> iiiears:  as in: I moved from hdb to hda, but grub still has hdb in mind
[04:53] <iiiears> WiseOdd, If you need my help don't hesitate to ignore my advice. - sorry about the confusion. - lol]
[04:53] <NotUbuntu> ty
[04:54] <sneex> lonegeek, I may be thinking of a debian package that hasnt made it to ubuntu yet -- soemthing like sformat but i cannot remember -- my debian system is at work  \=
[04:54] <polpak> iiiears: in general you were correct. But often in ubuntu you don't want to download stuff and install it directly. If you can you want to use the repositories
[04:54] <davfigue> sneex: hi, I tried that but it's strange I can use the device but the file in /dev/ disappear ...
[04:55] <iiiears> polpak,  It is much better to use synaptic. Ubuntu DEVs have checked things out ahead of time. sometimes making needed changes so things install more easily. (painlessly?)
[04:55] <sneex> im on ubuntu and using eth0 and there isnt a /dev/eth0  HTH  =)
[04:56] <sneex> davfigue, what does ifconfig eth0 tell you ?
[04:56] <SurfnKid>  could someone explain or send me a link with instructions to understand the purpose of X and the Windows Manager or the GUI part. and How to disable/enable automatically on bootup
[04:56] <iiiears> !xorg
[04:56] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[04:57] <davfigue> sneex: ifconfig eth0 says everything is ok
[04:57] <sneex> then let it be =)
[04:57] <c172> how do I run an application as a different user in 6.06?
[04:57] <Meekrok> tb77: what line do I delete, and how do I get to a place where I can delete it?  Also, is there a way I can just re download linux, but keep all my progs i've been dling over time?
[04:58] <c172> and what's wrong with having that in the menu?
[04:58] <SurfnKid> iiiears: i want to disable the GUI part on boot up on this machine and know how to enable it. Will that tell me how to or just fix resolution problems
[04:58] <sneex> davfigue, are you usng dhcp or a static IP?
[04:58] <tb77> Meekrok: are you in Ubuntu now?
[04:58] <davfigue> sneex: the matter is that I was programming using pcap lib and I used the device eth0 to comunicate with the nic, but after that the file's gone
[04:58] <iiiears> SurfnKid, You can always make the terminal the default boot option in i think "sessions" on the log in screen no?
[04:58] <Meekrok> tb77: not with this comp, but yes, I am
[04:59] <WiseOdd> iiiears: thx. im just a bit confused right now... trying all these different thing, and im a Big Linux newbie, so i get confused pretty fast. But one of the reasons for switching to Linux is to get a stable p2p server / client... so ill just have to figure out what to do... :)
[04:59] <linux_user400354> can i use cups to share my printer with other computers on the network?
[04:59] <sneex> the file was never there davfigue
[04:59] <sneex> i dont have it here
[04:59] <davfigue> sneex: I'm using static IP
[04:59] <SurfnKid> iiiears: thats what i want. not sure
[04:59] <tb77> Meekrok: open a terminal, sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <sneex> i have /var/run/dhclient.eth0.leases
[04:59] <SurfnKid> iiiears: not sure where to do that
[04:59] <rjian> i need help of using samba and firestarter theres a conflict??
[05:00] <iiiears> WiseOdd, Read up on QEMU and virtual machines. - at least you won't have to reinstall everytime.
[05:00] <davfigue> sneex: ok, well do you know another way to comunicate with the nic ?
[05:00] <psyoptik> how can I run a terminal command run from an Alacarte menu entry in the foreground?
[05:00] <c172> anyone know how to run an application as a different user in gnome? it shouldn't be that hard...
[05:00] <BHSPitLappy> hey... I want to remove Gaim, but to do it, ubuntu-desktop must be removed... why? should I avoid this?
[05:00] <SurfnKid> iiiears: id like to have x not load up. but know where to change and enable it by changing something in a file to re-enable it back
[05:00] <Meekrok> tb77: ok, now what
[05:00] <Amaranth> psyoptik: Don't tell it to run in terminal.
[05:01] <WiseOdd> iiiears: never heard of QEMO, but ill do that! thx for the help!
[05:01] <sneex> davfigue,  write your program to speak via the tcp/ip socket and the kernel will "figure it out"  =)
[05:01] <rredd4> Hobbsee  I do not see where to enter the remove 386 kernel and install 686 kernel commands into update manager..
[05:01] <rjian> i need help?? please help me??
[05:01] <iiiears> SurfnKid, The log in screen has an option. - just entirely guessing there might be something in rc.d
[05:01] <n30n> rjian: whats up?
[05:01] <buggzero> anyone know how to fix ASLA-OSS problems?
[05:01] <tb77> Meekrok: you need to delete the line that has  http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu/ in it and change your repo's from breezy to dapper
[05:01] <Hobbsee> rredd4: check in synaptic
[05:02] <n30n> Hobbsee: dude, in winecfg, it closes when i go to the audio tab
[05:02] <rredd4> Hobbsee  i looked there, in preferences?
[05:02] <buggzero> I can't seem to get flash player to use any sound
[05:02] <janitor_> hello peeps
[05:02] <rjian> n30n: i have a problem turning on the firestarter becuase it conflict the samba... any suggestion??
[05:02] <buggzero> even when i put in oss
[05:02] <Hobbsee> rredd4: it's just another package, and you add/remove it like anything else...
[05:02] <n30n> buggzero: i have had the same prob off and on. log out and log back in to see if it goes away.
[05:02] <Hobbsee> n30n: no idea, i dont use wine*
[05:02] <psyoptik> If I tell it to not run in terminal, it still runs in the background
[05:02] <rredd4> Hobbsee  ok, i saw that under kernel... ty
[05:02] <tb77> Meekrok: here's a sample sources.list from the Ubuntu wiki; http://pastebin.com/717682
[05:02] <n30n> rjian: no sorry
[05:03] <iiiears> gparted is nice. - just stole a few gigabytes from Windows.
[05:03] <davfigue> sneex: ok that's right, but I'm talking to the nic not to another program over the net, I'm trying to code a sniffer ...
[05:03] <iiiears> brb
[05:03] <psyoptik> the program normally uses the terminal to show output which is what I need to see
[05:03] <buggzero> gotcha
[05:03] <janitor_> how can i automatically load modules at startup... i.e video1394,raw1394,ieee1394..etc.etc.
[05:03] <c172> so it's not possible to run gnome applications as a different user in 6.06?
[05:03] <sneex> davfigue, talking to the nic is the kernels job
[05:03] <Meekrok> tb77: I dont see a line that has that
[05:03] <eugman> How do I raise a number to a power in a spreadsheet?
[05:03] <Meekrok> or anythinkg like it
[05:04] <tb77> Meekrok: can you post your sources.list at pastebin.com
[05:04] <hewhocutsdown> Bug reporting question (as in, how to do it right)
[05:04] <sneex> try ** eugman  but thats way OT here
[05:04] <davfigue> sneex: well sneex, thanks for your time, I'll figured out how to solve it ...
[05:04] <megasquid> is there a nautilus configuration tool?
[05:04] <sneex> sorry i couldnt help more
[05:04] <psyoptik>  I am using the command "cd Folding\ @\ Home; ./FAH502-Linux.exe" in the terminal, which loads the program just fine. How can I use this command in an Alacarte menu entry and still have the terminal output?
[05:04] <Eleaf> Is anybody using xgl here?
[05:05] <eugman> Nope, didn't work.
[05:05] <rredd4> Hobbsee its under Base System (restricted) thanks
[05:05] <Hobbsee> rredd4: not a problem
[05:05] <Hobbsee> steveO: please disable that script
[05:05] <janitor_> i did... i still prefer the "normal" desktop
[05:05] <Amaranth> psyoptik: oh, i see
[05:05] <Meekrok> tb77: done
[05:05] <sneex> eugman, is this open office or gnu spreadsheet?
[05:05] <Meekrok> http://pastebin.com/717683
[05:05] <davfigue> Hobbsee: hi, good to see you
[05:06] <Hobbsee> heya davfigue
[05:06] <eugman> Open office but I can do it in gnumeric.
[05:06] <megasquid> is there a nautilus configuration tool?
[05:06] <Amaranth> psyoptik: put sh -c 'cd Folding\ @\ Home; ./FAH502-Linux.exe' in for the command
[05:06] <n30n> !wine
[05:06] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[05:06] <janitor_> anyone know what file to edit to load modules at startup?
[05:06] <Eleaf> Seriously, anybody using xgl?
[05:06] <hewhocutsdown> My wife has a couple (occasionally repeating) serious issues with Dapper on her laptop, and just when I think they're fixed, they return....I'm not sure what to classify them as however, as they only seem to repeat when I least expect
[05:07] <mgorbach> hi everyone ... im comming from gentoo to ubuntu, or considering it
[05:07] <tb77> Meekrok: it's might the cdrom line you have to remove that anyway to upgrade
[05:07] <davfigue> janitor_: you have to look to /etc/modules
[05:07] <janitor_> Eleaf, i did... but not at the moment.. i still prefer the "normal" desktop
[05:07] <mgorbach> can someone explain to me how easy/hard it is to get new,updated software packages for ubuntu?
[05:07] <hewhocutsdown> Welcome, I've toyed with Gentoo a year ago or so
[05:07] <tb77> Meekrok: just replace your sources.list with http://pastebin.com/717682
[05:07] <Eleaf> janitor_, yea, I'm having a problem though
[05:07] <psyoptik> Amaranth: ohmy! Thanks much! it worked.
[05:07] <Eleaf> janitor_, I can't get my screen to lock!  i.e. screensaver to come up.
[05:07] <hewhocutsdown> (welcome mgorbach....it's kind of chaotic, have to specify)
[05:07] <janitor_> Eleaf, i dont encounter any problem with it though
[05:07] <Eleaf> It keeps my display from sleeping.
[05:08] <Eleaf> so the display won't turn off.. ;(
[05:08] <cius> Eleaf, just turnit off manually anytime you walk away
[05:08] <someothernick> mgorbach, sudo apt-get update  ... sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:08] <mgorbach> for example, say a new build of firefox comes out
[05:08] <mgorbach> well ubuntu has this annoying thing of being "locked into" packages
[05:08] <mgorbach> they dont get updated to new version
[05:08] <cius> thats what I do :-)
[05:08] <mgorbach> for me, comming from gentoo, this is a major problem as i am used to running new software
[05:09] <Meekrok> tb77: do I need to save? This sounds horrible, but I cant see a place to save the changes
[05:09] <someothernick> mgorbach, i think it has to get added to repos first
[05:09] <Amaranth> mgorbach: You can install the new firefox into /opt
[05:09] <Eleaf> cius, heh..
[05:10] <tb77> Meekrok: yes save with Ctrl-X
[05:10] <Eleaf> cius, but.. I usually will just walk away for like 1 minute, but I'm not sure how long I will be gone.
[05:10] <Amaranth> mgorbach: No problem, just edit all the launchers to point to the one in /opt and you won't know the difference
[05:10] <Eleaf> cius, is it bad to turn a crt off and on a lot?
[05:10] <Eleaf> it's like degaussing it all the time.
[05:10] <cius> Eleaf, not in my experience, haven't had one go bad yet
[05:10] <hewhocutsdown> anyone decent with understanding bug tracking? I'm trying to find one on my wife's machine....
[05:10] <Meekrok> tb77: ok, trying to update now, if it works, a big thank you
[05:10] <Eleaf> I just don't want any distortion to start showing up due to constant starting and stopping of the gun.
[05:11] <Eleaf> lol
[05:11] <tb77> Meekrok:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:11] <BHSPitLappy> anyone know how to turn off tap-to-click on a laptop?
[05:11] <mgorbach> so i just manually install ff that is downloaded, into /opt/ ?
[05:11] <Amaranth> mgorbach: yep
[05:11] <Hobbsee> !tell mgorbach about firefox1.5
[05:11] <Meekrok> tb77: oh, I shouldn't just use the program?
[05:11] <Eleaf> cius, I can't force the screensaver to start either (my screensaver is just a black screen).  I try hitting lock screen, but it doesn't work.
[05:11] <KrisWood> I've got my wacom intuos3 tablet working now except the pad buttons and touch strip, does anyone else here have an intuos3?
[05:11] <Meekrok> tb77: I guess not, because it still did not work
[05:12] <cius> Eleaf, these days you don't have to worry about burn in on your crt, unless its an older one maybe, so leaving it on a while won't hurt either, except maybe in the electricity bill.
[05:12] <mgorbach> like i said, im really interesting in ubuntu's easy of use, but its important for me to be able to run the latest version of softare
[05:12] <mgorbach> *software
[05:12] <mgorbach> another example ... a new rhythmbox version just came out
[05:12] <mgorbach> how would i get that?
[05:12] <Meekrok> oh, it did not save
[05:12] <mgorbach> in gentoo, it would be added to portage quickly and i wont just compile it and it would replace my old version
[05:12] <Eleaf> cius, I see.  It's about 10 years old or so..
[05:12] <Meekrok> tb77: open it from sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <someothernick> mgorbach, i am running <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:12] <Meekrok> ?
[05:13] <Eleaf> cius, still a great monitor.
[05:13] <cius> mgorbach, cvs and few make commands
[05:13] <cius> or svn, whatever the rhythmbox project uses
[05:13] <tb77> Meekrok: try gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:14] <Hobbsee> mgorbach: or just run the development release, but expect major bugs, particularly early in the cycle
[05:14] <prwlr> how can i upgrade my old firefox?
[05:14] <cius> Eleaf, I wouldnt' worry too much about it.  Though solving bugs is certainly a valuable thing to do, so don't just give up because I reccommend it :-)
[05:14] <janitor_> brb peeps.. wanna try the new conf if it works :)
[05:14] <mgorbach> you mean ech?
[05:14] <jajaja-> anyway to fix resolution in ubuntu..the picture on my lcd is all outta wack
[05:14] <mgorbach> *etch?
[05:14] <RadiantFire> jajaja-: what graphics card do you have
[05:14] <Eleaf> cius, hehe.  It's just weird, I dont' know what to do, maybe it's just a problem that is hard to work around with the xgl server.
[05:14] <KrisWood> no intuos3 users here?
[05:14] <jajaja-> old nvidia ge force
[05:14] <someothernick> jajaja-, what vid card and driver are you running?
[05:14] <someothernick> oh nm
[05:15] <cius> Eleaf, you might try the Xgl or compiz mailing lists
[05:15] <ardchoille> Well, time for me to go.. be back later.
[05:15] <Hobbsee> !tell prwlr about firefox1.5
[05:15] <Eleaf> cius, I wonder if the screensaver/energy saver settings for ubuntu are specialized for xorg. ;/
[05:15] <oxpub> how do i connect my windows machine to a cups printer via http?
[05:16] <prwlr> thanks Hobbsee
[05:16] <oxpub> http://ipaddress:631/printers/mindamp doesnt seem to be working
[05:16] <Meekrok> tb77: says "authentication rejected, reason: none of hte authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:16] <bimberi> ubotu tell oxpub about xpprint
[05:17] <davfigue> Anybody Knows how to get working XGL Compiz with ATI ?
[05:17] <oxpub> that bot is really obnoxious
[05:17] <oxpub> please dont do it again
[05:17] <NotUbuntu> k
[05:17] <oxpub> but thanks for the information
[05:17] <oxpub> thats exactly what i needed
[05:17] <snakeman> hey kids..i'm having trouble running scripts which set environment variables under xterm (I'm using dapper drake)
[05:18] <crimsun> oxpub: that bot is here for a reason. If we had to answer every FAQ, we'd have muzzled quite a few people by now.
[05:18] <shinobi2> where can i buy ubuntu stickers?
[05:18] <tb77> Meekrok: how bout sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list from a terminal
[05:18] <snakeman> how do I set environment variables in xterm?
[05:18] <oxpub> yeh well.. i was in hear earlier asking questions... and NO one answered.. in fact, it seemed like everyone were clueless newbs...
[05:18] <oxpub> wish i would have known about the bot then ;-)
[05:20] <Meekrok> tb77: ooh, at least things are different now, saved the new sources.list, trying to update again
[05:20] <snakeman> ...anyone?
[05:20] <oxpub> BTW ... bimberi, and others... that information is way OUT OF DATE
[05:20] <oxpub> but it still helped
[05:21] <crimsun> oxpub: then update it.
[05:21] <c172> this thing to set up a LAMP server with one command... is it only available when you're installing ubuntu?
[05:21] <c172> I always thought it did something useful
[05:21] <prwlr> when apt-get install gets interrupted.. if i rerun it would it download everything from the start?
[05:21] <crimsun> c172: no, but it's easiest when you use ubuntu-server
[05:21] <bimberi> oxpub: Please fix it, it's a wiki :)
[05:21] <crimsun> prwlr: no, it's cached
[05:21] <oxpub> really
[05:21] <KrisWood> sorry to ask the same question over and over but has anyone here got the tablet buttons and touch strip working on an intuos3 tablet?
[05:21] <oxpub> cool
[05:21] <oxpub> thanks
[05:22] <prwlr> ah.. nice
[05:22] <c172> I upgraded a running installation, so I don't know what I'm using
[05:22] <davfigue> prwlr: no it won't
[05:22] <c172> does it really do anything, or does it just install a few packages?
[05:22] <prwlr> what media players do you guys use? is totem-xine ok enough? mplayer? vls? thanks im confused
[05:22] <crimsun> c172: that question's fairly vague, please rephrase
[05:23] <c172> when they say that you can setup up a server with one command, do they just mean that the packages are installed?
[05:23] <davfigue> prwlr: totem very good, the same for mplayer
[05:23] <KrisWood> prwlr: for now I'm using mplayer and rythmbox and they seem to work well enough, it'd be nice to have a player that does everything though
[05:23] <c172> I guess a real administration tool is little too much to expect...
[05:23] <crimsun> c172: it means you get a functional one out of the box.
[05:23] <seyacat> Hi all
[05:23] <moonunit> i got an error, timestamp too far in the future, any ideas?
[05:23] <prwlr> ok thanks guys... need to make up my mind :)
[05:24] <seyacat> please help me
[05:24] <crimsun> c172: so it's not /just/ installing packages, no
[05:24] <snakeman> surely there must be a way to add new environment variables to /etc/profile and have them exported without rebooting my computer, RIGHT?
[05:24] <davfigue> prwlr: some media won't play on totem only on mplayer
[05:24] <c172> don't the packages come with default configuration files anyways?
[05:24] <crimsun> snakeman: sure, resource them
[05:24] <c172> if it doesn't just install packages, why is it only available during the install process?
[05:24] <snakeman> crimsun: can you be more specific?
[05:25] <crimsun> c172: because it's seeded differently from the desktops
[05:25] <prwlr> davfigue, what can mplayer play that totem cant?
[05:25] <crimsun> snakeman: . somefile
[05:25] <c172> so all it does is install a few packages and replace some text in the configuration files?
[05:25] <c172> at least I'm not missing out on anything good
[05:25] <moonunit> hey ive got an error, that the timestamp is too far in the future, any ideas?
[05:25] <davfigue> prwlr: some kind of avi files, but totem plays almost anything
[05:26] <siriusnova> crimsun - are you here?
[05:26] <snakeman> crimsun: you speak volumes, but I still don't understand
[05:26] <crimsun> c172: of course you're not missing out on anything good. You're always free to hang yourself. We just give you rope.
[05:26] <prwlr> davfigue, ah ok thanks
[05:26] <siriusnova> hey crimsun - sorry i got disonnected, but it looks like you found the solution to the thinkpad problem
[05:26] <siriusnova> any idea when we can expect a patch ?
[05:26] <c172> snakeman, I know the feeling
[05:26] <prwlr> davfigue, how about dvd-ripped avi files?
[05:26] <snakeman> they way I would have done it in the old days would be to just run "/bin/bash /etc/profile" but that's not working in xterm, I do an "env" afterwards and there's nothing new
[05:26] <Oddzball> Hello I am back
[05:26] <seyacat> i have AMD 64 with kubuntu, one day eth0 stop to work, it is embbed and i can see it and can configure, but i cant see network computers
[05:26] <crimsun> siriusnova: again, Matthew pinpointed it; I only made that clear.
[05:27] <siriusnova> oh ok
[05:27] <siriusnova> so when do we expect a patch via aptitude dist-upgrade or whatnot
[05:27] <siriusnova> :X
[05:27] <crimsun> siriusnova: again, the rest of the devs are in Paris or on their way there, so it will be a good seven or eight hours before I'd expect any movement.
[05:27] <siriusnova> darn
[05:27] <siriusnova> but at least its pinned down
[05:27] <sivik_> !wmv3
[05:28] <ubotu> sivik_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:28] <crimsun> yes, there's a known workaround; Matthew is just waiting for the green light to upload.
[05:28] <davfigue> prwlr: sure totem will play it
[05:28] <siriusnova> crimsun - how does the patching work, do we just aptitude dist-upgrade ?
[05:28] <c172> well, that's some good spin in the release announcement... they make it sound so special
[05:28] <siriusnova> and it will update the new kernel?
[05:28] <snakeman> c172: yeah, I know..this crimsun dude gives crappy free help. i expect better support.
[05:28] <sivik_> how do i go about getting the wmv3 for mplayer or vlc
[05:28] <KrisWood> does anyone here use an intuos3 tablet?
[05:29] <seyacat> i have AMD 64 with kubuntu, one day eth0 stop to work, it is embbed and i can see it and can configure, but i cant see network computers. ethernet works fine in windoes
[05:29] <crimsun> siriusnova: we won't be updating the kernel. It's an updated acpi-support package.
[05:29] <siriusnova> crimsun - oh ok
[05:29] <prwlr> ah
[05:29] <Druke> Hello, what is the command to re-run the xorg.conf configuration program?
[05:29] <crimsun> Druke: ``sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg''
[05:29] <Druke> thank you
[05:30] <nomin> which is better?: easyubuntu or automatix?
[05:30] <crimsun> snakeman: . /etc/profile
[05:30] <prwlr> how can i rip dvd files into avi using linux? thanks
[05:30] <Hobbsee> nomin: easyubuntu
[05:30] <Hobbsee> crimsun: please fix $mypetbug.  kthnksbye!
[05:30] <beavis_> does anyone know how to assign an icon to a filetype in kde?
[05:30] <imbrandon> nomin, easyubuntu
[05:31] <crimsun> Hobbsee: ponies blz.
[05:31] <Hobbsee> crimsun: no ponies for you.
[05:31] <crimsun> Hobbsee: then no fix for you!
[05:31] <seyacat> Help me please. i have AMD 64 with kubuntu, one day eth0 stop to work, it is embbed and i can see it and can configure, but i cant see network computers. ethernet works fine in windoes
[05:31] <NoUse> prwlr 'apt-cache search dvd AND rip'
[05:31] <imbrandon> http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot4.png  <-- ponies for crimsun
[05:32] <sivik_> is there anyway to get wmv3's to play?
[05:32] <Kuyaedz> how can I get a service to no longer load at boot time?
[05:32] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: heh.  no, there's a better link than that...
[05:32] <[Ex0r] > imbrandon, how are you running photoshop in ubuntu?
[05:32] <imbrandon> [Ex0r] , wine
[05:32] <prwlr> NoUse, thanks dude
[05:32] <AngryElf> how come mplayer can open my dvd with libdvdcss2, but xine can't?
[05:32] <crimsun> imbrandon: that's a travesty on so many levels...
[05:32] <snakeman> crimsun: I couldn't see the space after the dot(.)  ..it works! thank you!
[05:32] <crimsun> snakeman: np.
[05:33] <[Ex0r] > imbrandon, I tried using it, won't let me install it. What version do you have ?
[05:33] <imbrandon> [Ex0r] , 7
[05:33] <imbrandon> [Ex0r] , i also use crossover office not just plain wine
[05:33] <[Ex0r] > ah, that's why
[05:33] <[Ex0r] > im using cs2
[05:33] <imbrandon> but afaik it works on plain wine too
[05:33] <imbrandon> yea cs 8 and below work
[05:33] <[Ex0r] > you have a winxp theme? lol
[05:33] <imbrandon> akaik
[05:33] <Oddzball> Hello!
[05:34] <imbrandon> [Ex0r] , yea ;)
[05:34] <[Ex0r] > cs8? You mean photoshop 8 ?
[05:34] <imbrandon> cs 1 or ps 8 , same thing
[05:34] <lonegeek> Is there a check disk type command that i can run in linux to attempt to fix a ntfs hard drive?
[05:34] <[Ex0r] > you said cs8 :)
[05:34] <[Ex0r] > i was like... eh
[05:34] <imbrandon> heh
[05:34] <ic56> !ntfstools
[05:34] <imbrandon> my bad
[05:35] <[Ex0r] > crossover office, I think i've heard of that. Is that the software that costs money ?
[05:35] <imbrandon> [Ex0r] , yea
[05:35] <[Ex0r] > how's the software compatability for it?
[05:36] <Oddzball> Hello, I was wondering, does anyone know about getting an Audigy 2 ZS Notebook card to work with ubuntu?
[05:36] <imbrandon> www.codeweavers.com has a db [Ex0r]  or supported apps
[05:36] <imbrandon> of*
[05:36] <crimsun> Oddzball: what isn't working?
[05:37] <Oddzball> I dunno, What can i do to test if sound is coming out of the speakers?
[05:37] <[Ex0r] > imbrandon, k, ty
[05:37] <crimsun> Oddzball: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[05:38] <konfuzed> hew there, so I've got this box with ECS mobo + AMD Pro1400+ 256MB ram and on board everything else with a 20 gig drive and cd-rw. last night I tried to install 5.10 from a pacakged install disc and both times it ended in kernel panic at what appeared to be right after setting some irqs. Perhaps the problem is the onboard vga mem sharing and frame buffer stuff. aside from adding a seperate video card , what is the best way to ensure there is no
[05:38] <konfuzed>  frame buffer issue??
[05:38] <konfuzed> ?
[05:39] <konfuzed> that did not appear on my screen properly
[05:39] <konfuzed> hew there, so I've got this box with ECS mobo + AMD Pro1400+ 256MB ram and on board everything else with a 20 gig drive and cd-rw. last night I tried to install 5.10 from a pacakged install disc and both times it ended in kernel panic at what appeared to be right after setting some irqs. Perhaps the problem is the onboard vga mem sharing and frame buffer stuff. aside from adding a seperate video card , what is the best way to ensure there is no
[05:39] <konfuzed>  frame buffer issue??
[05:39] <Sjoerd-> If I am logged in as root, what command can I use to change my accounts password?
[05:39] <[Ex0r] > Sjoerd-, passwd <password>
[05:39] <davfigue> Sjoerd: passwd
[05:39] <crimsun> Sjoerd-: passwd $YOUR_USER
[05:39] <Sjoerd-> it will change the root password
[05:39] <konfuzed> Sjoerd-, passwd $username
[05:39] <Sjoerd-> thanks crimsun
[05:40] <Sjoerd-> thanks konfuzed :)
[05:40] <[Ex0r] > forgot one
[05:40] <Sjoerd-> thanks all
[05:40] <[Ex0r] > lol
[05:41] <HedgeMage> konfuzed: A friend of mine had the same problem on her lappy... I burned her a Dapper Drake (6.06) CD and it was a flawless install
[05:41] <[Ex0r] > alrighty righty, it's time fo rbed.
[05:41] <Sjoerd-> I already knew the passwd command, even tried passwd account... Just didn'think of putting a $ in front of it. Thanks :)
[05:41] <[Ex0r] > for bed*
[05:41] <xenex> cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU      1200MHz @ 797MHz w/ 512 KB L2 Cache]
[05:41] <xenex> how do i get my cpu running at full speed, 1.2ghz?
[05:41] <crimsun> Sjoerd-: no, the $ designates variable
[05:41] <crimsun> Sjoerd-: so supposing your username is sjoerd, you'd use ``passwd sjoerd''
[05:42] <Sjoerd-> ok so passwd sjoerd should do when my account is sjoerd?
[05:42] <Sjoerd-> ok.
[05:42] <[Ex0r] > yes'sir
[05:42] <Oddzball> crimsun: yeah its playing out of my notebook speakers
[05:42] <Sjoerd-> Is it, when looking at security, advisable to disable root account after recovering my password?
[05:42] <Oddzball> but not through my audigy 2 card
[05:43] <sivik__> !wmv3
[05:43] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sivik__
[05:43] <crimsun> Oddzball: I presume you have multiple sound devices? pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[05:43] <lonegeek> How can i repair a ntfs filesystem....... help!!!
[05:43] <matthew_w> Uhh, I have a major problem I think... hehe
[05:43] <[Ex0r] > lonegeek, repair ?
[05:44] <matthew_w> Does anyone know if dual booting can cause any physical hard drive issues?
[05:44] <Sjoerd-> lonegeek: put back your backups?
[05:44] <sivik__> !w32codecs
[05:44] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[05:44] <konfuzed> ok ill take the dvd player oput of this box and put it in the other one and see if that does the trick
[05:44] <BHSPitLappy> matthew_w, no
[05:44] <Sjoerd-> matthew_w: normally it won't :) But make sure you have backups.
[05:44] <konfuzed> ive got a dapper dvd here already
[05:44] <Oddzball> crimsun, how do i do that, I am like, super linux newb....
[05:44] <crimsun> matthew_w: yes. In rare cases your opposable thumbs will explode, rendering your hands useless for holding weapons of mass destruction across long distances.
[05:44] <lonegeek> ahaha backups....most of it was video, mp3, and pictures...not really backedup....most but not all....... Is there anyway to non destructively reformat it...if i put windows disk in...can i run something....
[05:45] <matthew_w> Because.. I've had two HDD's on which I've dual booted Ubuntu and 'doze for games, and ... well, I am listening to the violin like noises of my second fragged 80 gig hard drive
[05:45] <crimsun> matthew_w: sorry, but there's a price to pay for convenience.
[05:45] <matthew_w> although this one I can get a replacement for, because it's only 4months old X_X
[05:45] <jns> Does anyone know how to get wireless working on a macbook pro?
[05:45] <Oddzball> heck i dont even know how to get to the terminal in ubuntu
[05:45] <KhZilla> how do you disable the Hibernate from the X logout screen?
[05:45] <crimsun> Oddzball: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[05:45] <Sjoerd-> lonegeek: I would put it in another box and then run windows diskcheck over it
[05:46] <[Ex0r] > lonegeek, nope. Once an ntfs file system gets damaged, it's basically impossible to fix it.
[05:46] <crimsun> matthew_w: in all seriousness, there's such a low probability of harm that it's essentially safe to say "no"
[05:46] <KhZilla> I have a remote server and I log in via X, and it gives me the option to hibernate it...
[05:46] <KhZilla> which I don't want
[05:46] <[Ex0r] > matthew_w, if you've been through that many hdd's in that short of time, i'd be looking at a problem somewhere else.
[05:47] <matthew_w> Ex0r, such as?
[05:47] <Oddzball> [Crimsun] :0 [ICH5           ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH5
[05:47] <Oddzball>                      Intel ICH5 with ALC650F at 0xd0000c00, irq 185
[05:47] <Oddzball> 1 [Audigy2        ] : Audigy2 - Audigy 2 ZS Notebook [SB0530]
[05:47] <Oddzball>                      Audigy 2 ZS Notebook [SB0530]  (rev.0, serial:0x20011102) at 0x4800, irq 177
[05:47] <gigaclon> !paste
[05:47] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[05:47] <[Ex0r] > matthew_w, could be lots of things. Bad motherboard, bad power supply, bad ide interface/cable
[05:47] <crimsun> Oddzball: ``asoundconf set-default-card Audigy2''
[05:47] <[Ex0r] > What kind of hdd is it?
[05:47] <matthew_w> Ex0r; I thought that, so I got a new motherboard, and new ide cables
[05:47] <ZDUX> can I ask for some help? I can't get the scim to start
[05:47] <matthew_w> Hitachi
[05:47] <matthew_w> DeskStar
[05:47] <[Ex0r] > :\
[05:47] <matthew_w> 80g
[05:47] <crimsun> ah, the Deathstars!
[05:47] <matthew_w> sorry about the enters
[05:48] <xenex> cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU      1200MHz @ 797MHz w/ 512 KB L2 Cache]
[05:48] <[Ex0r] > matthew_w, that's your problem. Buy maxtor or western digital
[05:48] <xenex> how do i make my processor stop running at 797mhz and make it run at 1.2ghz which is full speed?
[05:48] <whayworth> I'm sorry to interrupt the discussion, and also if this is a bad place for this query, but, if a developer who's new-ish to Linux development but fluent in several [programming languages]  would like to help solve bugs, where should the developer start?
[05:48] <matthew_w> Ex0r, the first one that died was a WD caviar
[05:48] <matthew_w> It died so badly it literally melted in my PC.
[05:48] <crimsun> whayworth: #ubuntu-bugs
[05:49] <[Ex0r] > matthew_w, that is DEFINATELY not from dual booting
[05:49] <[Ex0r] > that would be from overheating
[05:49] <whayworth> oh...thanks crimsun
[05:49] <cobrien> MatthewV: melted eh?   lemme guess... no fans?
[05:49] <whayworth> (sorry if my Flash queries kept bugging you the other day)
[05:49] <whayworth> I'll go there now
[05:49] <lastnode> what is the flash fonts package?
[05:49] <matthew_w> Ex0r; what actually happened was (it was 3 years old) for some reason a bearing or screw or so, let loose, and caused a loud NNNENENENENENWWWW chainsaw like noise, which melted it from friction.