[03:33] <royel> !restricted | tom__
[03:33] <ubotu> tom__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:33] <Hasinski> tompouce: wait, will check
[03:33] <ledbettj> tompouce: you might need the gtk engine...
[03:33] <tompouce> Hasinski, thanks a lot
[03:33] <ledbettj> try sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[03:34] <doujikai1984> asdf
[03:34] <royel> Hasinski: an it's a windows application?
[03:34] <Hasinski> ledbeet: that good idea
[03:34] <tompouce> ah thanks ill try
[03:34] <Hasinski> royel: yes
[03:34] <royel> Hasinski: have you looked into crossover or wine?
[03:34] <Hasinski> royel: and dont wont to instal under wine
[03:34] <tompouce> whats the difference between compiz and beryl?
[03:34] <royel> Hasinski: theres not much other choice then
[03:34] <lumination> dyrne: I really want to be able to have the filesystem checked tho
[03:35] <dyrne> lumination: / should still be checked
[03:35] <lumination> hmmmm
[03:35] <Hasinski> tompouce: for me compiz dont run beryl do run ( with official inst guide) :) what i read compiz is more stable but with less fireworks
[03:35] <lumination> yeah it's my home partition
[03:35] <tompouce> ah ok
[03:35] <lumination> that's why I want it checked
[03:35] <lumination> some of my most important data goes in there
[03:35] <tompouce> beryl rocks so hard compared to vista
[03:35] <putterson> lol
[03:35] <Xenguy> Hasinski: my gawd, use inkscape or something native :-)
[03:35] <kitche> Hasinski: well considering beryl is as stable as compiz since beryl uss the same code pretty much
[03:35] <Hasinski> tompouce: beryl is justy gr8, love this think from mac
[03:35] <tompouce> I find beryl stable, it didnt crashed all day long :P
[03:35] <P235> is there a faster way to set up program launchers under xfce as you can in gnome?
[03:36] <asdf_> easiest way to install beryl or compiz? I want opengl desktop
[03:36] <bruenig> P235, where are you trying to put these launchers, are you talking about desktop icons?
[03:36] <Hasinski> tompouce: sometimes it crashes but need only to click refrash window decorator and ready :D
[03:36] <tompouce> asdf_, look on the ubuntuforums, i got it there
[03:36] <asdf_> thanks
[03:36] <Xenguy> P235: I just configure/load them off the panel
[03:36] <francois> how do i revert to an older version of a package again ?
[03:37] <dyrne> P235: yeah i dont know what thunar calls them
[03:37] <Xenguy> !revert
[03:37] <Hasinski> asdf: ubuntuguide.org & wiki.beryl-project.org
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about revert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <Xenguy> hrm
[03:37] <Xenguy> !rollback
[03:37] <sha1sum> ahhh
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rollback - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <shatrat> francois, if you installed from a repo you can search for the package in Synaptic and use Package -> Force Version to install an older version, and then lock it so it doesnt get upgraded
[03:37] <tompouce> Hasinski, hehehe :P I really think of throwing winblows out of my computer, the only apps thats getting me on windows is guitar pro and im now looking at tuxguitar so mouahahah!!!
[03:37] <Xenguy> tsk tsk
[03:37] <P235> I just installed xfce and I was wondering if there's another way than individually configuring the launchers.
[03:37] <kitche> !fishing | Xenguy
[03:37] <Hasinski> asdf: in my opinio install nvidia beta drivers if u have nvidia
[03:37] <ubotu> Xenguy: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:37] <feryana> hi
[03:37] <bruenig> P235, what are you calling Launchers
[03:37] <feryana> how can I see a DvD Movie with Linux?
[03:37] <Xenguy> kitche: investigation is not abuse IMHO
[03:37] <dyrne> just dont ask ubotu about love hes very bitter
[03:37] <bruenig> !dvd | feryana
[03:37] <ubotu> feryana: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:38] <Xenguy> kitche: but sure, I can /msg :-)
[03:38] <sha1sum> so nobody really knows how to let fsck know the starting and ending sectors for the filesystem have changed ?
[03:38] <feryana> thanks
[03:38] <francois> shatrat: synaptic ?
[03:38] <Hasinski> ubotu: u just grate
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u just grate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <francois> !synaptic
[03:38] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:38] <Hasinski> ubotu: u got so small
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u got so small - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <shatrat> francois, System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[03:38] <su_> hallo peoples! a question I have not been able to find an answer to anywhere else I've looked so far... is there any way to use apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/etc to manage packages on a different system than the one currently booted?
[03:38] <Hasinski> ubotu: how to became famous and reach
[03:39] <P235> bruenig, hmmmm I set up program icons on the panels and associate them with commands.  Say if I wanted to set up a FreeMind launcher I would look up the place with the FreeMind icon and then associate it with the command 'freemind'.
[03:39] <su_> my laptop has crashed, and hard... even running kernels in recovery mode, it won't go past acquiring keymaps.
[03:39] <shatrat> su_, you can ssh into the other system and run it from the comand line
[03:39] <su_> running from a LiveCD at the moment.
[03:39] <su_> other system won't boot :]
[03:39] <Reuben> Hi. I wanted to switch over to linux and was pointed here. i need some help
[03:39] <su_> well, this system, actually, but you get the idea.
[03:39] <bruenig> P235, ok right, just right click panel and add launcher
[03:39] <shatrat> su_, I see.  Might be able to do something from the liveCD, im not too familiar with using the liveCD though
[03:39] <P235> bruenig, is that the only way?
[03:40] <bimberi> Reuben: hi, ask away, if someone can help they'll reply
[03:40] <bruenig> P235, yeah
[03:40] <P235> bruenig, alright, just checking before I do these.
[03:40] <Reuben> how do i choose a distro for my laptop Acer aspire 7003wsmi
[03:40] <su_> shatrat: Yeah. I'd consider doing a basic reinstall, except that there's a bunch of stuff on there that, though vital, I don't want to put mass effort into tracking all down again.
[03:40] <su_> Reuben: Hmm.
[03:40] <majd> Hey, how do i check what version of gtk i have?
[03:40] <Tzadok> hello everybody
[03:41] <Xenguy> majd: dpkg -l gtk*
[03:41] <Xenguy> majd: is one way
[03:41] <su_> Reuben: Choice of distro is really a personal thing... some may or may not have certain hardware support, but you can almost always copy whatever you need in from somewhere else.
[03:41] <feryana> ok
[03:41] <Xenguy> majd: even:  dpkg -l gtk* |grep ^ii |less
[03:41] <kevman> I am trying to install mplayer, but it can't find a bunch of packages, such as libdvdread3.
[03:42] <feryana> I installed libdvdread3 and I made the decryption thing. How I call it? I don't see it in the programs
[03:42] <bimberi> Reuben: using a distro's LiveCD (if it has one) can be a good guide to how it will work on your hardware
[03:42] <Reuben> I'm willing to learn and i heard ubuntu is especially beginner friendly. Its the hardware support i have issues with
[03:42] <majd> Xenguy, neither
[03:42] <shatrat> feryana, you dont need to use it, lib means library.  Other programs like Totem and MPlayer will use it
[03:42] <su_> Reuben/bimberi: yeah, that's generally a good idea.
[03:42] <Xenguy> feryana: I think it gets accessed/used by other applications transparently  ?
[03:42] <Reuben> used knoppix v.4 n 5 and debian
[03:42] <feryana> shatrat totam still needs the driver
[03:42] <feryana> the codec I mean
[03:42] <Xenguy> majd: that will indicate if it is install or not I would think
[03:43] <richduhrm> what codec u need?
[03:43] <Reuben> wifi had issues didn't work
[03:43] <shatrat> feryana, did you follow the video how-to on help.ubuntu.com?
[03:43] <majd> Murrine engine says i need gtk2.8+ to install
[03:43] <feryana> I will install thge plugins now
[03:43] <Xenguy> majd: maybe dpkg -l *gtk*    ?
[03:43] <`Jessie> hi! I have a Intel dual core system, I can use 32 bit with that right?
[03:43] <bimberi> Reuben: frequently the case (unfortunately).  What chipset?
[03:43] <Tzadok> I was wondering if anyone knew the way to make a Portable HD boot ubuntu live
[03:43] <shatrat> Reuben, wi-fi often has issues.  You should be able to find a how-to for your hardware that will work though
[03:43] <mothersuperior> YEP!
[03:44] <Reuben> hold on...getting details
[03:44] <mothersuperior> Reuben
[03:44] <shatrat> `Jessie, of course you can
[03:44] <majd> Xenguy, No packages found matching gtk-gnutella-downloads.
[03:44] <Ferret> libgtk\* probably
[03:44] <mothersuperior> what wifi card do u have
[03:44] <m150> Totally new to linux, anyone could give me a hint on how the partition table should look on a 37.5gb harddrive (slow comp P3@600mhz,392mb ram)
[03:44] <su_> yeah, wi-fi is the hardest one, really
[03:44] <Xenguy> majd: hrm, should work, sorry it isn't here/now
[03:44] <darknight2183> anybody know how to add an hp all in one c6180 printer that is connected to your network
[03:44] <richduhrm> majd what codec u need java?
[03:44] <Reuben> its inbuilt...looking up the system specs
[03:44] <mothersuperior> what model notebook?
[03:44] <mothersuperior> HP?
[03:44] <mothersuperior> Dell?
[03:44] <shatrat> acer
[03:45] <snowman3388> can someone help me with ubuntu
[03:45] <mau> just installed ubuntu on my pc box today!  I'm officially a linux user.
[03:45] <mothersuperior> hmm a acer?
[03:45] <Xenguy> majd: last suggestion: try doing this first:  cd /
[03:45] <richduhrm> what u need snow man
[03:45] <`Jessie> I just bought an HP :)
[03:45] <Xenguy> majd: then run the dpkg command
[03:45] <shatrat> Reuben, if you boot from the LiveCD or install then you can easily find the exact chipset using the lspci command
[03:45] <mothersuperior> You probally have the boardcom  wireless driver
[03:45] <majd> Xenguy, ah yeah, now i got a bunch of stuff
[03:45] <bruenig> m150, depends, all you need for sure is a root partition of whatever length, at least 3 gigs to be safe and more if you expect to store files on it, and a swap partition of maybe 512 mb
[03:45] <mau> so... what DVD player do i need to download?
[03:45] <Tzadok> I was wondering if anyone knew the way to make a Portable HD boot ubuntu live
[03:45] <mothersuperior> you can use ndiswrapper
[03:45] <Xenguy> majd: hmmm
[03:45] <bruenig> !info vlc | mau
[03:45] <Hasinski> mau: ubuntuguide.org
[03:45] <ubotu> mau: vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[03:45] <snowman3388> I'm trying to mount a hard drive from the ubuntu live cd
[03:45] <Toma-> m150: thats not slow :) As for partitioning, id say / = 5gb, and /home = the rest
[03:45] <Reuben> Acer aspire 7003 wsmi  card>>Atheros AR5005g
[03:45] <feryana> I knew it
[03:46] <mau> ooh... nice.. i like vlc on my mac
[03:46] <mau> will do
[03:46] <feryana> I installed all the codecs... till not working
[03:46] <feryana> xD
[03:46] <shatrat> mau, I like mplayer but it doesnt do graphical dvd menus
[03:46] <Toma-> m150: ahh and maybe 512mb for swap
[03:46] <richduhrm> basicly u bought a new hard drive and ur tryin to boot ubuntu on it?
[03:46] <Tzadok> nah
[03:46] <Tzadok> i boutgh a portable hd
[03:46] <mothersuperior> reuben when u do a iwconfig?
[03:46] <mothersuperior> do u see it?
[03:46] <richduhrm> shatrat i use song bird it is perfect
[03:46] <Xenguy> majd: sometimes it seems if you are in a cwd that has a filename that resembles the string you're searching for with dpkg, things mess up - that's why I suggested switch to a different dir
[03:46] <majd> Xenguy, it says i have GTK 2.8.1 but when i try to compile the Murrine Engine it says configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile Murrine
[03:46] <timbe> hello everyone
[03:46] <Tzadok> and was trying to make that portable hd be able to boot ubuntu on multiple different computers
[03:47] <m150> bruenig, what file system should the root partition be in?
[03:47] <Reuben> actually i'm totally new at this...always used windows
[03:47] <majd> Xenguy, i guess that makes sense, i need to do some research on dpkg
[03:47] <shrndegruv> hey whats the best virtualization option for running windows on edgy?
[03:47] <mothersuperior> Reuben
[03:47] <shrndegruv> by best i mean fastest
[03:47] <mothersuperior> Go 2 terminal
[03:47] <Xenguy> majd: compiling is like that <shrug> - that is why I try to stick to packages ;-)
[03:47] <mothersuperior> type in iwconfig
[03:47] <Toma-> shrndegruv: qemu
[03:47] <shrndegruv> Toma - why better than vmware ?
[03:47] <timbe> is there a way to enable remote login for gnome withOUT using the gui? (I'm sitting on my box at home wanting to login to my work computer via vpn)
[03:47] <majd> Xenguy, the link the guy provides doesn't work :(
[03:47] <mothersuperior> Let me know if wifi0 appears?
[03:48] <Toma-> shrndegruv: because its free, and its faster
[03:48] <ecker> how do i point my ./linux_installer.sh thats in the /home directory to my cdrom?
[03:48] <mothersuperior> timbe
[03:48] <m150> toma, a bigger swap won't give any effect right?
[03:48] <mothersuperior> why would u not want gui with gnome?
[03:48] <shrndegruv> faster eh?
[03:48] <jrib> in a shell script (lets call it a.sh), is it possible for me to determine what file executed a.sh?  For example of /usr/bin/b.sh has a line calling a.sh, I'd like a way to get "/usr/bin/b.sh" inside the script a.sh
[03:48] <Xenguy> majd: google, dunno - you're dealing with non-standard packages so it's a bit wild out there I expect ;-)
[03:48] <dyrne> timbe: im not sure i understand what youre trying to do
[03:48] <shrndegruv> dam
[03:48] <shatrat> timbe, are you looking for something like ssh?
[03:48] <shrndegruv> should have asked before installing vmware ;)
[03:48] <mothersuperior> gnome and gui go hand & hand right?
[03:48] <Toma-> m150: not unless your doing some serious photo editing and such. but on those specs, i doubt youll be doing anything too memory intensive right?
[03:49] <mothersuperior> ya i think he wants ssh
[03:49] <majd> Xenguy, ok, thanks for the help
[03:49] <Xenguy> majd: good luck
[03:49] <su_> to rephrase my question before more generally: anybody know how to affect a mounted filesystem with apt-get or similar, without actually booting said filesystem separately?
[03:49] <bimberi> Reuben: "Ubuntu ships madwifi in the restricted component, which is enabled in the default install. Madwifi chipsets should therefore just work." - http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[03:49] <m150> toma, just learning, nothing heavy
[03:49] <timbe> mothersuperior: all the howto's i find for enabling remote login say goto System > login click on enable blah blah....here's my problem....im not sitting at the computer I need to enable to remote login too.. ie. I'm at home the computer I want remote login enabled to is sitting at work.
[03:49] <Surb> timbe, are you trying to remotely enable remote login?
[03:49] <Reuben> ok will log out and reboot into knoppix then get back to you
[03:50] <timbe> Surb: yes!
[03:50] <timbe> Surb: nail on the head
[03:50] <Toma-> m150: well 512 should be fine. if its too small, you can always resize or every replace it with a swapfile
[03:50] <mothersuperior> well Timbe usually u have 2 configure  the rlogin at the local machine right?
[03:50] <itguru> Can anyone recommend a channel to speak about wifi cracking?
[03:50] <snowman3388> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /media
[03:50] <snowman3388> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1,
[03:50] <snowman3388>        missing codepage or other error
[03:50] <snowman3388>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[03:50] <snowman3388>        dmesg | tail  or so
[03:50] <mothersuperior> before u can remote into it
[03:50] <snowman3388> (anyone know why it's doing this?)
[03:50] <mothersuperior> Itguru
[03:50] <m150> toma: but what filesystem should i choose for the different partition, I choose to do like: 5GB + 32GB + 0,5Swap
[03:50] <mothersuperior> go 2 irongeek.com
[03:50] <Xenguy> snowman3388: don't paste!
[03:51] <mothersuperior> or backtrack2 channel
[03:51] <snowman3388> sorry
[03:51] <Chiaroscuro> backtrack definately
[03:51] <richduhrm> snow man check ur messages on left
[03:51] <timbe> mothersuperior: I have ssh access so...shouldn't I be able to enable via console?
[03:51] <Toma-> m150: make it all ext3, but swap will be its own swap filesystem
[03:51] <snowman3388> which messages?
[03:51] <snowman3388> I'm using gaim
[03:51] <m150> toma: thanks
[03:51] <richduhrm> i sent u a priate message
[03:51] <richduhrm> private
[03:51] <Toma-> no problem!
[03:51] <Xenguy> timbe: what are you actually wanting to do??
[03:51] <mothersuperior> yep
[03:52] <mothersuperior> if u configured ssh access
[03:52] <richduhrm> u hsould see it at top or on left with my name on it
[03:52] <timbe> Xenguy: remotely enable remote access
[03:52] <mothersuperior> your home machine windows?
[03:52] <YangYin> hey guys when my dmesg is nothing but  rtl8180: WW:No more TX desc, returning 30 of 30... is that bad?
[03:52] <mothersuperior> down load putty?
[03:52] <timbe> mothersuperior: Both are ubuntu boxes
[03:52] <snowman3388> I see it, I sent you two messages but there's no reply from you
[03:52] <Surb> Xenguy: he has ssh access
[03:52] <BlueLaguna> is a cpu with two cores recognized as multiple cpus or one?
[03:52] <timbe> im sitting on root on my work comp via ssh right now
[03:53] <Xenguy> Surb: sounds like remote access <shrug>
[03:53] <dyrne> timbe: i usually just use vnc and ssh. well rdesktop if i need a windows machine.
[03:53] <Gumby> remotely enable remote access?  isnt that a egg/chicken sort of thing?
[03:53] <piro> not really
[03:53] <mothersuperior> hehehe
[03:53] <Xenguy> Surb: does he want a GUI/desktop?
[03:53] <timbe> Gumby:remotely enable remote X access
[03:53] <mothersuperior> No he does not
[03:53] <mothersuperior> just ssh into the damn thing
[03:53] <timbe> yes...i do
[03:53] <timbe> I want a gui
[03:54] <mothersuperior> Vnc u have 2 configure , which he probally didnt do righT?
[03:54] <timbe> i can run around in console all i want
[03:54] <Xenguy> timbe: OK then - freenx is your friend (if you can manage to configure it successfully)
[03:54] <Gumby> timbe: you want vncserver and possibly rfb
[03:54] <richduhrm> damn u have gaim snowman
[03:54] <richduhrm> ?
[03:54] <snowman3388> yeah I do
[03:54] <mothersuperior> brb guys got 2 take a dump
[03:54] <richduhrm> whats ur name
[03:54] <dyrne> timbe: also freenx if you already have ssh access and port forwarding setup is very nice. many possibilities
[03:54] <timbe> dyrne: which is the fastest?
[03:54] <snowman3388> real name?
[03:55] <itguru> backtrack2 channel
[03:55] <ubuntu> Hi, I just added a new partition to my system and installed windows on it.. How can I get Windows to be an option for my GRUB??
[03:55] <Mobster> I can Ping websites but not browse them in firefox. What would cause that?
[03:55] <Xenguy> timbe: freenx, hands down
[03:55] <richduhrm> no on gaim
[03:55] <richduhrm> so i can im u
[03:55] <snowman3388> I have msn
[03:55] <dyrne> timbe: freenx has much better compression. its usable on a dialup line
[03:55] <Gumby> Mobster: ping websites or URLs?
[03:55] <Stu_2> Mobster -- are you pinging them by name?
[03:55] <richduhrm> are u in ubuntu
[03:55] <Xenguy> timbe: freenx is X over ssh (or is it ssl? secure anyways)
[03:55] <Gumby> err, websites or IP's
[03:55] <Mobster> Gumby: Uhh URLS?
[03:55] <snowman3388> on the live cd
[03:55] <timbe> dyrne: they are both broadband... im just powerhungry
[03:55] <toulouse> hey guys, i made a disk image, but i dont know where ubuntu put it, can yall help?
[03:55] <richduhrm> ok
[03:55] <Danny> im on the live cd
[03:55] <richduhrm> go to applications
[03:55] <Spartacus> Is there a way to change the color scheme for Ubuntu?
[03:55] <Xenguy> timbe: freenx = faster
[03:55] <Mobster> Stu_2: Yes but it seems that if they have a 2nd tier name then they come back as <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:55] <richduhrm> internet then gaim
[03:56] <Stu_2> er..
[03:56] <timbe> Xenguy: thanks so much
[03:56] <snowman3388> yup
[03:56] <Gumby> Mobster: which web browser?
[03:56] <Mobster> Stu_2: If I dig it I get the right IP
[03:56] <Xenguy> timbe: good luck
[03:56] <Mobster> Gumby: Firefox
[03:56] <richduhrm> have u ever used aim
[03:56] <dyrne> timbe: freenx is more secure and faster.  vnc unleass you do it over ssh isnt really that secure
[03:56] <richduhrm> or have a name for aol
[03:56] <JimBeam> is there a way to auto correct dependencies (like apt-get install -f) when using "sudo dpkg --install" ?
[03:56] <paitken> Can someone tell me how to play a ripped DVD
[03:56] <snowman3388> I've used aim but I don't have a name, do you want me to make one?
[03:56] <Danny> how do I add my new windows installation to the list on my grub boot manager?
[03:57] <richduhrm> ys
[03:57] <richduhrm> msn suck balls
[03:57] <snowman3388> who should I add?
[03:57] <piro> question about freenx, anyone to use it on a windows computer as the client?
[03:57] <Ferret> JimBeam: The reason apt exists is to do clever things on top of dpkg, so I doubt it... but I'll look anyhow
[03:57] <Mobster> Gumby: When i tried to log in here irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.net both came back as <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:57] <richduhrm> me
[03:57] <richduhrm> richdurhm
[03:57] <snowman3388> oh okay
[03:57] <piro> does it only work used the nxclient
[03:57] <dyrne> Danny: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst copy the entry for windows that is commented # out
[03:57] <snowman3388> okay I'll add you soon
[03:57] <Mobster> Stu_2: pinging by name works after a little delay
[03:57] <dyrne> Danny: only think you need to change is the partition
[03:58] <Stu_2> Mobster -- what entries do you have in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[03:58] <JimBeam> Ferret: i want to install "webmin" , but apt-get doesnt find it, and when i try to install the downloaded package with dpkg i get dependency errors
[03:58] <dyrne> piro: nomachine client is free for windows
[03:58] <Ferret> JimBeam: Is apt not working for whatever you're foing?
[03:58] <Spartacus> Is there a way to change the color scheme for Ubuntu?
[03:58] <piro> ya i just found it thanks dyrne
[03:58] <Mobster> Stu_2: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:59] <Stu_2> Mobster -- what kind of router do you have ?
[03:59] <piro> well then f vnc ;>
[03:59] <Mobster> Stu_2: DSL modem
[03:59] <Stu_2> you're directly connected to the modem ?
[03:59] <m150> Toma: Part#1=ext3@5GB, Part#2=extended@32GB, <EMAIL_ADDRESS>Part#4=linux-swap@0,5GB   <-- does this seem to be correct, just about to hit enter :D
[03:59] <Ferret> JimBeam: I assume you tried putting the .deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[03:59] <Mobster> yup
[03:59] <Stu_2> hm
[03:59] <Stu_2> guess its forwading your DNS queries for you.. who is your ISP ?
[03:59] <Stu_2> forwarding*
[03:59] <JimBeam> Ferret: as i am a noob, no - i will try that, thx
[04:00] <Mobster> Stu_2: Our local monopoly
[04:00] <Spartacus> Anyone?
[04:00] <richduhrm> xcan nayone tell me  experinced user whats beter limewire or frostwire?
[04:00] <Mobster> I Know the DNS server IP for that should I use that instead?
[04:00] <Xenguy> piro: I've found setup can sometimes be finicky, but once it's done, it rocks :-)
[04:00] <dyrne> richduhrm: frostwire sticks it to the man. limewire sticks it to you
[04:00] <Stu_2> Mobster -- that was my next step.. looks like <IP_ADDRESS> is ns.cwjamaica.com
[04:00] <richduhrm> huh?
[04:01] <richduhrm> so i should use frostwire
[04:01] <Stu_2> try putting that IP in instead of the <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:01] <Danny> dyrne: there is no entry for windows in menu.lst
[04:01] <VolkerOS> howdy all!
[04:01] <Stu_2> Mobster ( and ns.cwjamaica.com resolves names for me )
[04:01] <VolkerOS> booga booga
[04:01] <Mobster> Stu_2: That would stop me from browsing
[04:01] <dyrne> richduhrm: they are really about equal for functionality. ones just open
[04:01] <Danny> dyrne: what should this entry look like? i know its my hda2
[04:01] <Mobster> Stu_2: ?
[04:01] <Stu_2> Mobster -- if it breaks name resolution you can always change it back
[04:01] <kevcast> What's the terminal command to install Clearlooks for GTK?
[04:01] <m150> installin ubuntu and have a question about my partition table: Part#1=ext3@5GB, Part#2=extended@32GB, <EMAIL_ADDRESS>Part#4=linux-swap@0,5GB   <-- does this seem to be correct, just about to hit enter :D
[04:02] <chrismurf> anybody here familiar with HAL?  I'm trying to have a camera icon popup for my camera instead of the default usb storage icon.  I've created an appropriate fdi file, can't figure out where it goes / how to make HAL use it.
[04:02] <Stu_2> Mobster -- in your /etc/resolve.conf, put nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> instead of the <IP_ADDRESS> address
[04:02] <mothersuperior> timbre  are u there
[04:02] <richduhrm> so wich one should i use i have lime wire but i cannot get pro i have pro on my windows but not linux
[04:02] <rb007> kevcast: clearlooks theme?  It's in the system -> preferences menu
[04:02] <dyrne> Danny: you should be able to google for an example. sorry im not on linux right now.
[04:02] <eelmoo> Hello
[04:02] <ki-eye> greets everyone
[04:02] <VolkerOS> howdy
[04:02] <VolkerOS> starting a long day at work!
[04:02] <chaz_> richduhrm, ever try soulseek? I always liked it better. The linux version of that is called Nicotine.
[04:02] <VolkerOS> :(
[04:02] <Danny> dyrne: ok so when i add that text i can just save and reboot and it should work? i dont have to run a command to commit the changes?
[04:03] <dyrne> richduhrm: id use frost on basic principal :)
[04:03] <kevcast> rb007: I don't think it's a theme, I think it's a plug-in for GTK to show a certain effect for panels, top of windows, etc.
[04:03] <kevcast> I may be wrong though, I don't know.
[04:03] <ki-eye> I'm having some issues getting my netgear wg311 card working in my ubuntu setup... can anyone help out?
[04:03] <dyrne> Danny: yeah if the entry is correct it will work
[04:03] <rb007> kevcast: go to System - >preferences -> themes --- it's in there
[04:03] <VolkerOS> oooo wifi card
[04:03] <ki-eye> I've looked around on the web, but didn't find anything that would work
[04:03] <ki-eye> VolkerOS, it would be much more impressive if it worked ;)
[04:03] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: have you looked online for any reference
[04:04] <rb007> does anyone know how to enable mod_rewrite on apache2 on Ubuntu?  Do I just add a couple of lines to apache2.conf?  like this  LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so  and  AddModule mod_rewrite.c  ?  The instructions I'm reading say to "uncomment" those lines but I don't see them.
[04:04] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: i had to compile a driver for my d-link
[04:04] <kevcast> rb007: It's not a theme, it's an engine. http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/
[04:04] <[R] eaper> hi, i need help with my ati card
[04:04] <ki-eye> VolkerOS I've found a few mentions of it, but none that worked specifically... I saw someone mentaion ndiswrapper
[04:04] <ki-eye> but I couldn't get it to compile
[04:04] <JimBeam> Ferret: i copied the package in the archives dir, running "apt-get install webmin" and then "apt-get -f install" first removed webmin (guess it was only partially installed before), when i run "apt-get install webmin" again, i get an error that the package webmin has no installation candidate
[04:05] <chaz_> anyone know anything about Opera and/or proxy connections?
[04:05] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: why not?
[04:05] <kondor21> guys I am in trouble here, I need to edit fstab from terminal.  I have no access to Gnome. My fstab mounts hdb1 to my home and if I can stop then I can get back, using live cd to chat now.
[04:05] <Mobster> Stu_2: Seems to have helped thanks
[04:05] <Stu_2> Mobster-- great!
[04:05] <ki-eye> VolkerOS, it bombs out...
[04:05] <VolkerOS> kondor21: vi fstab
[04:05] <VolkerOS> kondor21: make sure you're sudo
[04:05] <rb007> kevcast: you can get to it through System -> Preferences -> Themes...
[04:05] <rb007> try it
[04:05] <Xenguy> kondor21: do you have 'nano' installed?
[04:05] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: checking some things
[04:05] <kevcast> rb007: Do you know how? I'm a newbie. :(
[04:06] <Jrabbit> Ok
[04:06] <kondor21> Xenguy I dont know what nano is so i guess not
[04:06] <Xenguy> kondor21: nano is a relatively simple text editor
[04:06] <kondor21> Volker is vi easy?
[04:06] <Jrabbit> I'm on Dapper, I  downloaded Fiesty, how can I skip Edgy?
[04:06] <Xenguy> kondor21: dpkg -l nano
[04:06] <kondor21> VolkerOS is vi easy?
[04:06] <ki-eye> VolkerOS, it bombs out with a bunch of implicit declarations
[04:06] <rb007> kevcast: do you see the system menu at the top of your screen?
[04:06] <VolkerOS> kondor21: it's a simple text editor for non-gui
[04:06] <Xenguy> kondor21: will tell you if it is installed
[04:06] <kevcast> Yes.
[04:06] <VolkerOS> kondor21: it's what
[04:06] <rb007> kevcast: click there to open the menu... then hover over "preferences" to open another menu... then click on "Theme"
[04:06] <Jrabbit> I'm on Dapper, I  downloaded Fiesty, how can I skip Edgy?
[04:07] <Xenguy> VolkerOS: vi is not usually described as 'easy' =)
[04:07] <VolkerOS> kondor21: oops, it's the standard for redhat based systems and such
[04:07] <dyrne> Jrabbit: yes
[04:07] <kondor21> Xenguy, it wont I am on live CD
[04:07] <Xenguy> VolkerOS: tho it can be done of course :-)
[04:07] <StoneNote> rb007, # a2enmod rewrite [then]  # /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload
[04:07] <Jrabbit> How?
[04:07] <rb007> kevcast: then look for "clearlooks" -- it's what I'm using right now...  just a couple of clicks and you'll have it
[04:07] <VolkerOS> Xenguy: it's not hard... :)
[04:07] <Jrabbit> It fatal erros out
[04:07] <ki-eye> vi is easy.. after you've gotten the hang of it ;)
[04:07] <Xenguy> kondor21: I see
[04:07] <Jrabbit> dyrne: how'd you do it?
[04:07] <Xenguy> VolkerOS: I agree; it's the others that don't ;-)
[04:07] <[R] eaper> please help with ati, look here http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/885944
[04:07] <Jrabbit> dyrne: boot on to the live CD?
[04:07] <gdb> Jrabbit: by tossing what you downloaded and doing an in-place upgrade over the network
[04:07] <kondor21> Xenguy and I can not mount my hda1 from here :(
[04:07] <nosaj2> hey guys/gals how do you get to the stuff that you load under WINE?
[04:07] <rb007> StoneNote: I didn't understand that first part... what is the # a2enmod rewrite part?
[04:07] <gdb> you can't do an upgrade using the live cd
[04:07] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: i assume you've gone to larsen-b.com?
[04:08] <dyrne> Jrabbit: well i did sudo sed -i 's/dapper/feisty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list; sudo apt-get update
[04:08] <gdb> and there is no alternatives cd for an unreleased feisty
[04:08] <Cryoniq> Anyone got web feeds like cnn and other news pages web tv working in Ubuntu/firefox? Tried all but no luck with WMA and Realtime and quicktime on such pages. Work with google video and youtube and similiar sites though..
[04:08] <whileimhere> Is there a way to update the GTK-GNUTELLA to the newest version without having to compile it because I think that the newest version is in in synaptic but you need to enable something to get to it
[04:08] <StoneNote> rb007, using root (#) enter the command "a2enmod rewrite" and then press enter
[04:08] <dyrne> Jrabbit: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:08] <Xenguy> kondor21: vi is on every *nix system, so worthwhile getting to know a little... for situations like this =)
[04:08] <StoneNote> rb007, try sudo a2enmod rewrite
[04:08] <VolkerOS> Xenguy: exactly
[04:08] <Xenguy> hehe
[04:08] <rb007> StoneNote: thanks... I thought you might have meant a comment in the apache2.conf file  :S
[04:08] <VolkerOS> kondor21: best alternative, and the default
[04:08] <StoneNote> rb007, np.
[04:09] <VolkerOS> kondor21: if you want a good book that explains vi "Linux in a Nutshell" is very useful
[04:09] <kondor21> Xenguy, thanks, i need to get a pen and write down where fstab resides becaus to be honest I do not know and guess I will need to for vi
[04:09] <Cryoniq> <--- Got Waite Group Unix* Handbook 1984 next to me all the time :P
[04:09] <Jrabbit> dyrne: no luck
[04:09] <Jrabbit> Absolutly nothing
[04:09] <ki-eye> VolkerOS, no.. I hadn't seen that, so I can just use the broadcom drivers?
[04:09] <Xenguy> kondor21: /etc/fstab
[04:09] <VolkerOS> kondor21: /etc/fstab
[04:09] <weepingdemon> where are my programs lijke firefox and openoffice stored at? ie. wheres the linux's equivelant of window's Program Files? at least in edgy/ubuntu
[04:09] <Cryoniq> That is.. the Unix Reference card.. with all Vi stuff :P
[04:10] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: try http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/103.html
[04:10] <dyrne> Jrabbit: what error?
[04:10] <rb007> StoneNote: thanks... that saved me hours... It worked...
[04:10] <Jrabbit> no error
[04:10] <kondor21> So, it will be  vi /etc/fstab
[04:10] <kondor21> oh
[04:10] <Jrabbit> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:10] <Jrabbit> Reading package lists... Done
[04:10] <Jrabbit> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:10] <Jrabbit> Calculating upgrade... Done
[04:10] <Jrabbit> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:10] <Jrabbit>   build-essential dpkg-dev fakeroot g++ libc6-dev
[04:10] <Jrabbit> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[04:10] <kondor21> I mean,   sudo vi /ect/fstab
[04:10] <StoneNote> rb007, cool
[04:10] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: they have the commands there that should walk you through it...
[04:10] <royel> !pastebin | Jrabbit
[04:10] <ubotu> Jrabbit: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:10] <Jrabbit> I'm liking gdb's idea >_<
[04:11] <VolkerOS> kondor21: yea that should work
[04:11] <Jrabbit> Royel, not helping
[04:11] <ki-eye> VolkerOS, perfect, just what I was looking for..
[04:11] <ki-eye> thanks for the assist! =)
[04:11] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: awesome
[04:11] <kondor21> VolkerOS Xenguy many thanks, going to practise with vi in live before i ruin everything hehehe
[04:11] <ki-eye> now, let's see if we can get it working *g*
[04:12] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: it might have some bugs, but then again what linux wifi drivers dont...
[04:12] <VolkerOS> kondor21:  you're welcome
[04:12] <Jrabbit> dyrne: Any idea its Dappr not Edgy :\
[04:12] <yell0w> hey guys, has anyone tried ntfs-3g ?
[04:12] <chaz_> weepingdemon: they're in Home, which is inside Places, but they're hidden. You have to click an option in View for them to be shown.
[04:12] <VolkerOS> ALL: brb gonna go have a smoke
[04:12] <craigbass1976> Rather than have set-x scroll things by as you run a script, is there a way to get the output of set -x to jsut go into a text file?
[04:12] <dyrne> Jrabbit: well i just upgraded two boxes dapper --> feisty
[04:13] <Jrabbit> dyrne: Odd
[04:13] <dyrne> Jrabbit: gimme ssh access to your comp :)
[04:13] <Jrabbit> XD
[04:13] <Jrabbit> I might
[04:13] <dk> hey
[04:13] <Jrabbit> Its ngot no write access to my important files
[04:13] <dk> how do you find out if you are running gnome or kde?
[04:13] <Mena> How to set a link to trash to chage the icon when its full and empty on desktop?
[04:14] <kevman> Can somebody tell me what repo libartsc0 is in? Universe?
[04:14] <kitche> dk: look at the about for your WM
[04:14] <craigbass1976> dk, go to help in the "start" menu and see what help pops up
[04:14] <Jrabbit> dyrne: Serrious?
[04:14] <kevman> Becuase apt can't find it.
[04:14] <dyrne> Jrabbit: well i mean you have to give me sudo
[04:14] <weepingdemon> chaz_: i see only the programs settings in Home. where are the binaries?
[04:15] <dyrne> Jrabbit: im sure youll figure it out :)
[04:15] <dk> gnome
[04:15] <Pancakes> dkbg, I had a problem.
[04:15] <Jrabbit> dyrne: Thanks.
[04:15] <dk> thank you gentlemen and ladies
[04:15] <Jrabbit> dyrne: Much love.
[04:15] <Jrabbit> dyrne: I'll remove the added repo's
[04:15] <KNY> if I try and remove gaim, it says ubuntu-desktop is going to be removed as well; is that safe?
[04:15] <Jrabbit> no.
[04:15] <kevman> Can someone pastebin me a good sources.list that has universe and multiverse?
[04:16] <dyrne> !metapackage | KNY
[04:16] <ubotu> KNY: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[04:16] <kevman> I keep getting an error on apt-get update.
[04:16] <KNY> dyrne, so it's not anything to worry about?
[04:16] <dyrne> KNY: so its safe  but might mess up distupgrade
[04:16] <KNY> mmm
[04:16] <KNY> I'll not do it then
[04:17] <tom47> cannot play my serpentine audio cd in cdplayer .. works ok in a pc
[04:17] <[R] eaper>  any radeon x1600 owner here??
[04:17] <kevman> [R] eaper, yeah.
[04:17] <EdgEy> ! limewire
[04:17] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:17] <EdgEy> !frostwire
[04:17] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:17] <VolkerOS> ----back
[04:18] <[R] eaper> <kevman> do you have direct rendering ?
[04:18] <Pancakes> dkbg, are you there?
[04:18] <kevman> My apt-get update keeps failing to get Edgy/main Packages. It gives me this error: "not in gzip format"
[04:18] <kevman> [R] eaper, sure.
[04:18] <Meshezabeel> I think I found a bug in Edgy can someone help me confirm this?
[04:18] <kevman> Is there something wrong with the servers?
[04:19] <Jrabbit> I need to upgrade Dapper to Edgy
[04:19] <[R] eaper> <kevman>how did you get it?, i cant make it work
[04:19] <Jrabbit> I'm having issues
[04:19] <Pancakes> I just partitioned ubuntu, and when I try to start it..It says "Starting.." then it goes to a blinky "-" repeatily.
[04:19] <Reuben> mothersuperior: did as you said
[04:19] <kevman> [R] eaper, you need the ati drivers.
[04:19] <Reuben> showed results on a connection noted as 'ath0'
[04:19] <Meshezabeel> if I run xmodmap it shows Alt_L twice, can someone else run this and see if it happens for them too?
[04:19] <MukiEX-da> Is anyone getting a bug where the mouse cursor is in the wrong place?
[04:20] <[R] eaper> i have them, but my screen looks bad
[04:20] <kondor21> Ok guys, I will be back in 5 if this works.
[04:20] <dyrne> hes not coming back :)
[04:20] <VolkerOS> gooooo kondor!
[04:20] <EnsGabe> Hi- I'm trying to, while logged in to a remote machine, initialize an xserver on that machine to display on its monitor (this is a machine running Edgy.)  I have a barebones session in .xinitrc that I use when entering 'xinit' on the keyboard of the remote machine and that works fine
[04:20] <VolkerOS> fly with the wind
[04:20] <kevman>  I g2g, bbl.
[04:20] <tom47> my audio cd created in ubuntu does not play on cd player
[04:20] <royel> Meshezabeel: mod1        Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_L (0x7d),  Meta_L (0x9c)
[04:20] <Frogzoo> Meshezabeel: it depends on your keyboard & your keyboard layout
[04:21] <Pancakes> Darn lag
[04:21] <MukiEX-da> My mouse cursor is offfset really bad. I think the latest dist-upgrade is what foobared me.
[04:21] <EnsGabe> But logging in via ssh and doing the same thing yields: "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting." \n "xinit: Server error."
[04:21] <dyrne> EnsGabe: im not sure i know you can designate displays with xinit like xinit --:1   to launch
[04:21] <tom47> !audiocd
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audiocd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <bruenig> tom47, how did you burn it
[04:21] <ki-eye> so, madwifi says it comes with Edgy and should just work out of the box...
[04:21] <Lastent> hi i just reinstalled Ubuntu, and internet doesn't load automatly, i used to, so i don't know how to set it up, can you help me?
[04:21] <tom47> bruenig using serpentine
[04:21] <Pancakes> I just partitioned ubuntu, and when I try to start it..It says "Starting.." then it goes to a blinking "-" repeatily.
[04:22] <bruenig> tom47, well not that I have any idea why that would fail or not, but k3b always works for me
[04:22] <dyrne> Pancakes: did you install after you partitioned ;)
[04:22] <EnsGabe> dyrne: currently there's not xserver running on the machine.  The weird thing is, I perform the command at the keyboard of the laptop, and it works.  I do it over ssh, I get the above error.
[04:22] <tom47> bruenig ok yes will give it a whirl ty
[04:22] <Pancakes> dyrne, I installed while I partitioned, I htink.
[04:23] <[R] eaper> <kevman>i really need your help man, i have the latest ati drivers, but my screen doesn't look fine
[04:23] <Pancakes> All I know is that it won't work:/
[04:23] <Pancakes> Just does a blinking "-".
[04:23] <Meshezabeel> Frogzoo shouldn't this by Alt_R not Alt-L?
[04:24] <Reuben> regarding wifi problems on a laptop........
[04:24] <Meshezabeel> Frogzoo, I can't seem to use my right alt key because of it
[04:24] <MukiEX-da> I can't find anything on the forum regarding this mouse bug. I have no idea wtf to do. =(
[04:24] <royel> Meshezabeel: mine works
[04:25] <Meshezabeel> royel, your right ALt works?
[04:25] <royel> Meshezabeel: yes
[04:25] <Pancakes> Gosh lag.
[04:26] <Meshezabeel> hmmm, I wonder why my right Alt doesn't work
[04:26] <royel> Meshezabeel: maybe your Ralt key is broke, try a hammer :)
[04:26] <VolkerOS> lol
[04:26] <Meshezabeel> royel, lol, I can use it under windows
[04:26] <falkon_> okay, has ANYONE gotten aircrack working with the ipw2200 card?  I'm not even talking about packet injection, just monitoring so I can pull out an SSID of a hidden network
[04:26] <Pancakes> I just did the partition for ubuntu, and whenever I try to start it, I get a blinking "-".
[04:26] <royel> Meshezabeel: I know it's not funny, but I haven't a clue :(
[04:26] <VolkerOS> Meshezabeel: have you tried changing the keyboard layout?
[04:27] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: sounds like Grub didn't install correctly
[04:27] <royel> !grub | Pancakes
[04:27] <ubotu> Pancakes: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:27] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: or, you have another drive in the BIOS setup as primary
[04:27] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what do I need to do?
[04:27] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: do you have more than one drive?
[04:28] <Reuben> how do i get my wifi to work in linux?
[04:28] <Pancakes> Um
[04:28] <royel> !network | Reuben
[04:28] <ubotu> Reuben: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:28] <Pancakes> I have windows and ubuntu (recently tried to install)
[04:28] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:  are they on separate drives?
[04:28] <Pancakes> I don't know
[04:28] <Reuben> yes i was here earlier...i was told to try an iwconfig n get back
[04:28] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I get the choice for them and everything.
[04:28] <royel> VolkerOS: same drive, she resized her XP partition earlier
[04:29] <Meshezabeel> VolkerOS my keyboard is set as U.S. English
[04:29] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: i see
[04:29] <falkon_> Okay, how can I trap packets to get the SSID of a router that is not broadcasting SSID?
[04:29] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what should I do?
[04:29] <seamus7> Any recommendations as to backup programs ... I want to back up to an external USB hard drive. ???
[04:29] <dyrne> falkon_: kismet is easiest
[04:29] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: sounds like grub didn't install correctly
[04:29] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what should I do then?
[04:30] <falkon_> dyrne: just installed it.  Can it tell me what the ssid of a router not broadcasing ssid is?
[04:30] <Reuben> mepis didn't detect my card but knoppix did
[04:30] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:  just to make sure... are you on the computer right now? Or are you using another computer?
[04:30] <VolkerOS> ?
[04:30] <royel> VolkerOS: she probably didnt mean to do that :)
[04:30] <dyrne> falkon_: yeah just let it run it should discover ssid if there is traffic
[04:30] <VolkerOS> :) yea
[04:30] <falkon_> thanks
[04:31] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what should I do then?
[04:31] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: just to make sure, reboot your computer and go into your bios
[04:31] <falkon_> I'll see if it works. If I can't get it working, I have a nice IBM PCMCIA A/B/G card to try
[04:31] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, then what?
[04:31] <SoulPropagation> how do I redirect my display from my external monitor to my laptop panel
[04:31] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: you should see boot options, make sure that the drive you are using is right under the CD-rom as boot priority
[04:31] <Reuben> still couldn't log in and the adsl/ppoe didn't work
[04:32] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: just to make sure, this happens when GRUB is installed on another drive, which in most cases is not set as the primary boot drive
[04:32] <Stu_2> anyone have any luck with usb or pcmcia serial adapters for laptops and ubuntu?  I don't have one I'm trying to get to work, I'm in the market to get one that hopefully will work without too much of a struggle...
[04:32] <Pancakes> I'm a bit confused now.
[04:32] <gireesh> how does one configure nvidia in ubuntu? nvidia-glx-enable?
[04:32] <Kawaii-Panda> can anyone help me, gnome wont let me in. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2191908#post2191908
[04:32] <`Matir> Stu_2, like a RS-232 serial port?
[04:32] <Stu_2> Matir -- yessir.
[04:33] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, So I need to check if Ubuntu is primary?
[04:33] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:  sometimes when you install linux it installs the boot loader (GRUB) on another drive... this causes problems if that drive is not set to boot first in the bios
[04:33] <SoulPropagation> !effects | gireesh
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <`Matir> Stu_2, I have one based on a prolific pl-2303 chipset that works fine, plug and play
[04:33] <SoulPropagation> !#ubuntu-effects | gireesh
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <gireesh> hehe
[04:33] <dyrne> gireesh: ideally i think sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-xconfig; sudo nvidia-xconfig    i usually use the nvidia.sh install though so not sure
[04:33] <bruenig> SoulPropagation, that is not ubuntu-effects
[04:33] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: right
[04:33] <Stu_2> Matir- great, I'll look into it.  Thanks !
[04:33] <gireesh> err...let me ask is it broken in feisty?
[04:33] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I'll check
[04:33] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: are you on the computer running linux right now?
[04:33] <`Matir> Stu_2, no prob
[04:33] <LumberJoe> hello people i'm french and my "E" with the thigny on top "" displays something weird to ppl using wincrap... any help possible?
[04:34] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, if it isn't, what do I do
[04:34] <b0ri5> I have an nvidia card-MX400, do I need to install drivers for it?
[04:34] <Pancakes> VolkerOS I'm on the computer with it on it, yes
[04:34] <bruenig> !ati | b0r15
[04:34] <ubotu> b0r15: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: What are you using to write?
[04:34] <Pancakes> I'll be using windows more often, but I want to use linux some too
[04:34] <boosted> how do i change gnome lang ?
[04:34] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: the easiest way to resolve this issue would be to re-install, you could repair Grub (or reinstall) using a rescue CD, but it's a bit complicated
[04:34] <VolkerOS> boosted: at login prompt
[04:34] <b0ri5> how will installing the drivers help?-what will it improve?
[04:35] <MarkChristian> every time i log in i just see a blank screen of death with a gray window.
[04:35] <boosted> Ok
[04:35] <SoulPropagation> LumberJoe: looks fine to me, of course I'm on wingaim
[04:35] <boosted> Thanks
[04:35] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: Qu'utilise-tu pour chater?
[04:35] <VolkerOS> boosted: welcome
[04:35] <eros> Is there a way to create an audio CD with Amarok?
[04:35] <gireesh> b0ri5: it uses the video card to its fullest capacity
[04:35] <LumberJoe> theDebugger i'm using a violin! no kidding i'm using a pc-101 keyboard on a compaq laptop
[04:35] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: The application perhaps...
[04:35] <bruenig> eros, maybe through a plugin I have never heard of, but other than that no
[04:35] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what does it mean if it's 'primary'?
[04:35] <gireesh> you need hardware acceleration when playing games, using glitzy desktop effects
[04:35] <gireesh> etc
[04:35] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: On xchat?
[04:35] <eros> Thanks bruenig
[04:36] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:  if your drive is primary it means it's the first boot device, but that doesn't mean anything if it isn't setup correctly in the bios
[04:36] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: make sure you have this order in the bios: CD-Rom - Hard Drive - etc...
[04:37] <LumberJoe> TheDebugger yeah, xChat but the other day someone gave me a command that I typed in my terminal and everything went sweet after... (before I had to screw around until I gave up and re-installed, thanks to ATI)
[04:37] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I'll check:/
[04:37] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: CD first so you can boot from CD's, and then your primary drive as second on the list...
[04:37] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok let me know
[04:37] <Pancakes> Use the CD?
[04:37] <tom47> bruenig ty it worked
[04:37] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: Anyway..you got an encoding problem.. try : /charset iso-8859-15
[04:37] <Pancakes> I'll just see what it says then write it down
[04:37] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: no, it's the default setup, so if you ever need to rescue, or install another OS, you can just pop the cd in and it will boot the cd first...
[04:37] <Pancakes> bbs
[04:37] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok
[04:38] <tom47> bruenig k3b that is ...
[04:38] <bruenig> tom47, right good
[04:38] <SoulPropagation> how do I redirect my display from my external monitor to my laptop panel?
[04:38] <LumberJoe> TheDebugger that is exaclty what I was talking about! =) thanks dude...
[04:38] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: Pas de probleme mon champion
[04:38] <P235> what's the command for the terminal in gnome?
[04:38] <SoulPropagation> P235: gnome-terminal :p
[04:39] <P235> SoulPropagation, thanks
[04:39] <LumberJoe> hahaha, grand champion! internationalllll de course!!!! (3 accords sucks BTW)
[04:39] <SoulPropagation> no prob P235
[04:39] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: Hahaha :) Tout nu sur la plagggeeeee, j'etais.. tout nue sur la plaggeee!
[04:39] <LumberJoe> t'es d'ou TheDebugger?
[04:39] <TheDebugger> Montreal :)
[04:39] <dyrne> SoulPropagation: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174  im lazy
[04:40] <SoulPropagation> thanks dyrne
[04:40] <LumberJoe> ok lol, moi avec mon nick tu peut deviner que chu un gars d'rgion :P j'viens du NB pis chu a quebec
[04:40] <TheDebugger> :D
[04:40] <VolkerOS> ubuntu french channel
[04:40] <TheDebugger> VolkerOS: #ubuntu-fr ?
[04:40] <TheDebugger> :)
[04:40] <VolkerOS> yep
[04:41] <royel> !fr | TheDebugger
[04:41] <ubotu> TheDebugger: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:41] <LumberJoe> VolkerOS, don't worry we're not backstabbin' anyone!
[04:41] <seamus7> What are some good ways of backing up to an external hard drive?
[04:41] <pavs_> I am root on a shell how do I see command history of another user?
[04:41] <LumberJoe> seamus7 drag and drop
[04:41] <LumberJoe> lol
[04:41] <seamus7> hee hee
[04:41] <shrndegruv_> hey how do i determine which hd in /dev is my windows partition?
[04:41] <dyrne> pavs_: cat /home/username/.bash_history  depending on the shell they use
[04:41] <shrndegruv_> so i can mount it and read the files....
[04:42] <kitche> shrndegruv: easy what hard drive is it on and partition
[04:42] <VolkerOS> LumberJoe: i know i understand french lol, can't speak it, but i can read it
[04:42] <yell0w> !ntfs
[04:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:42] <fiddo> hi there. im downloading desktop 6.1 version now. am i able to 'see/read text files' from a windows drive on the network with ubunto ?
[04:42] <shrndegruv_> i dont know im in linux now
[04:42] <yell0w> !fuse
[04:42] <shrndegruv_> so i dont remember which one windows is on
[04:42] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:42] <sha1sum> I have no safely remove hardware in my systray... anybody know how I can bring it up manually? or do I just unmount the external hd?
[04:42] <dyrne> pavs_: i int think ubuntu makes user dirs 700 or anything so you can do that without root
[04:42] <seamus7> LumberJoe: true .. what about programs that backup on a schedule?
[04:42] <Meshezabeel> What is the "Meta" key?
[04:42] <kitche> shrndegruv_: you can do fdisk -l as a regular user and should see it
[04:42] <Meshezabeel> on the keyboard?
[04:42] <sha1sum> Meshezabeel: alt
[04:42] <sha1sum> (on pcs)
[04:42] <TheDebugger> Meshezabeel: Most of the time, it's ALT
[04:42] <pavs_> dyrne
[04:42] <pavs_> root@pavs-desktop:/home/pavs# cat /home/mdross/.bash_history
[04:42] <pavs_> cat: /home/mdross/.bash_history: No such file or directory
[04:43] <shrndegruv_> lemme see
[04:43] <b0ri5> I have problems installing video card driver.
[04:43] <b0ri5> On the website it says: DO NOT install either package in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS because it will remove nvidia-glx. These programs are now provided in nvidia-glx.
[04:43] <SoulPropagation> dyrne: no, that's for merging. I just want to use my laptop's display; right now it's black-screened and the CRT shows my desktop
[04:43] <seamus7> Anyone do backups onto external hard drives and if yes what method do you use (dragndrop, tar, ???)
[04:43] <kondor21> Yeaaa, got my instalation back, thanks to those that helped me out
[04:44] <b0ri5> I ordered the CD, is it ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[04:44] <dyrne> SoulPropagation: well just switching is usually one of the laptop function keys
[04:44] <LumberJoe> seamus7 you can get a task scheduler of any kind and program it to do the following command  :    username@emplacement$ cp /home/emplacement/file.ext cp /media/drive/emplacement/file.ext.bkp
[04:44] <fiddo> thanks. is it possible to 'remote desktop' into ubuntu from win xP?
[04:44] <pavs_> seamus7 isnt tar just a compression format?
[04:44] <kitche> fiddo: yes vnc freenx
[04:44] <kondor21> b0ris, last I heard, they were still sending out 6.06 due to it having a longer support date
[04:44] <LumberJoe> fiddo yeah, use tightVNC on your linux box and realVNC on your wincrap
[04:45] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: what did you see?
[04:45] <shrndegruv_>  fdisk -l /dev/sda
[04:45] <shrndegruv_> Cannot open /dev/sda
[04:45] <dyrne> b0ri5: i just received 6.06 last week
[04:45] <pavs_> wincrap
[04:45] <kondor21> b0ri5, last I heard, they were still sending out 6.06 due to it having a longer support date
[04:45] <pavs_> lol
[04:45] <seamus7> pavs_: one backup thread explained how to tar / so that you could use it as a complete system backup
[04:45] <kitche> shrndegruv_: just fdisk -l it will output everything
[04:45] <b0ri5> ok, how do I install the driver then?
[04:45] <sha1sum> oh eject hehehe
[04:45] <shrndegruv_> yeah when i do that it outputs nothing
[04:45] <sha1sum> I'm a dumbass
[04:45] <timbe> who was the FreeNX guru in here? ;)
[04:45] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I got 1st [ATAPIC CD-ROM] , 2nd [Removable Dec] , 3rd [harddrive] , 4th [IBA 4.1.08 Slot 0140]
[04:45] <Faust-C> bored
[04:45] <fiddo> kitche, ok cheers. so ill have to install vnc on XP to access it?
[04:45] <Faust-C> Hostname: arch - OS: Linux 2.6.20-ARCH/i686 - CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 4000+ (2410.965 MHz) - Processes: 95 - Uptime: 14h 56m - Load Average: 0.45 - Memory Usage: 311.42mb/1010.41mb (30.82%) - Disk Usage: 5.58gb/401.35gb (1.39%)
[04:46] <VolkerOS> Pancakes
[04:46] <kitche> fiddo: yeah I prefer freenx myself
[04:46] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: there is your problem, removable should not be second
[04:46] <dyrne> timbe: im about as far as you can get from guru but whats the problem? :)
[04:46] <KevinDupuy> Hi, sorry to just jump in but can any one point me to an explanation on how to get XGL/Desktop Effects on Edgy Eft? Thanks
[04:46] <Xenguy> timbe: you still here?  ;-)
[04:46] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what should it be?
[04:46] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: put your HD as second, and any other HD
[04:46] <Faust-C> yawn
[04:46] <timbe> Xenguy: yeah still kickin
[04:46] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: should be 3rd
[04:46] <Xenguy> heheh
[04:46] <kitche> !xgl | KevinDupuy
[04:46] <ubotu> KevinDupuy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:46] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, tell me the exact order I should put
[04:46] <kondor21> b0ri5, 6.06 is supported till June 2009, where as 6.10 is supported till April 2008
[04:46] <Pancakes> I don't want to mess up:P
[04:47] <timbe> Xenguy:i got freenx up and kickin on the host
[04:47] <cmh0101> hello i'm having trouble with beryl causing the Gnome-Panel to freeze at startup, is there a refrence i can use to stop this?
[04:47] <pavs_> whats the command to see list of invisible files ie, the one with dot infront of them .bash_history
[04:47] <shrndegruv_> kitche when i do it without specifying device it does nothing
[04:47] <seamus7> Anyone do regular backups onto external hard drives? If yes, do you use any special program or just drag 'n drop?
[04:47] <LumberJoe> anyone's got a clue on making an image of my partition just like norton ghost would do with wincrap?
[04:47] <Gothfunc> hi.  compiling gdam, and it fails with: "gdasspatialstereo.c:73:1: error: pasting "->" and "lear" does not give a valid preprocessing token"... is it simply broken, or does anyone know of a fix?
[04:47] <Xenguy> timbe: and the client side?
[04:47] <b0ri5> ok, now how do I install the video card driver for Nvidia MX400??
[04:47] <kitche> shrndegruv_: you might need to sudo it
[04:47] <KevinDupuy> Thanks, ubotu
[04:47] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: rsync
[04:47] <Faust-C> tar
[04:47] <Faust-C> lol
[04:47] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: it should be CD - HD - etc..
[04:47] <shrndegruv_> stand by
[04:47] <Faust-C> KevinDupuy: its a bot btew
[04:47] <timbe> Xenguy: and I connect and auth just fine but it times out after this line
[04:47] <Xenguy> LumberJoe: partimage  ?
[04:47] <SoulPropagation> dyrne: that doesn't work, just blinks the screen on the CRT. I think it doesn't see the LCD
[04:47] <shrndegruv_> sweet
[04:47] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: the important thing is that HD should be second on the list, and any other HD should be third...
[04:47] <Pancakes> k
[04:48] <puki> be kool
[04:48] <shrndegruv_> now how to mount the windoze drive?
[04:48] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: that should work
[04:48] <Pancakes> So I would do CD > HD, Rem Dev, IBA
[04:48] <royel> Pancakes: -a should work
[04:48] <LumberJoe> ok guys that's like too much for me to handle at once, which one's the best partition snapshot software that has the best compression algorythm?
[04:48] <Faust-C> shrndegruv_: you should make a fat32 swap file to transfer files
[04:48] <Xenguy> timbe: ?
[04:48] <royel> Pancakes: sorry
[04:48] <Faust-C> shrndegruv_: ubunutu doenst support ntfs write
[04:48] <Pancakes> royel -a?
[04:48] <timbe> Xenguy: client is working fine... I'm just timing out after
[04:48] <royel> pavs_: -a should work
[04:48] <timbe> Xenguy:NX> 707 SSL tunneling: 1
[04:48] <timbe> /usr/lib/nx/nxserver: line 891: 11919 Terminated              ( sleep $AGENT_STARTUP_TIMEOUT; exit 1 )
[04:48] <timbe> NX> 105 NX> 504 Session startup failed.
[04:48] <shrndegruv_> i just need to read
[04:48] <Pancakes> Lol
[04:48] <timbe> sorry about the c&p
[04:48] <royel> Pancakes: meant for pavs
[04:48] <SoulPropagation> LumberJoe: gzip | dd
[04:49] <dyrne> LumberJoe: thats a dangerous question with alot of different answers :)
[04:49] <pavs_> royel tnx
[04:49] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: we dont do that kind of stuff in linux
[04:49] <b0ri5> ok, so I ran the command: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:49] <Faust-C> cause i find it pointless to backup the full hdd
[04:49] <b0ri5> its says command not found
[04:49] <Pancakes> k here I go VolkerOS
[04:49] <tritium> b0ri5: did you install nvidia-glx?
[04:49] <b0ri5> how?
[04:49] <Faust-C> lol
[04:49] <Faust-C> apt-get <app>
[04:49] <Xenguy> timbe: see, that's typical :-/  sshd has to be configured properly, and I once found that I had to revert to a previous freenx client (1.5?) instead of the newest one on their site
[04:50] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok let me know
[04:50] <tritium> !nvidida | b0ri5
[04:50] <shrndegruv_> Faust-C how do I do what you suggest?
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <SoulPropagation> can someone tell me how to get my laptop to recognize its LCD? It did until I got Beryl and friends running
[04:50] <b0ri5> I went to package manager, could not find that package
[04:50] <dyrne> i used to dd and pipe to gzip.
[04:50] <tritium> !nvidia | b0ri5
[04:50] <ubotu> b0ri5: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:50] <royel> VolkerOS: lol, love her exit message :)
[04:50] <LumberJoe> Faust-C I need to start doing that kind of stuff 'cause I suck at linux knowledge and ATI videocards TOTALY SUCK in this world and everytime I try to change something BOOOOM everything f***s up and even my xorg.conf backups doesn'T help sometimes
[04:50] <GuyFromHell> What's the ubuntu equivelent of running `dhcpcd eth1`?
[04:50] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: Pm
[04:50] <seamus7> LuberJoe: here's an ubuntu forum thread you might find helpful: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[04:50] <Faust-C> shrndegruv_: what are youtrying to do again
[04:50] <Xenguy> timbe: windows freenx client that is
[04:50] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: i help novice users
[04:50] <seamus7> LumberJoe: oops see my last entry
[04:50] <shrndegruv_> just mount my windows driver
[04:50] <pavs_> i created a user but forgot to give him -m own directory how do i assign a home directory to him now? since he doesnt have a home directory where does his history file is being saved?
[04:50] <shrndegruv_> so get some .java files off it
[04:51] <shrndegruv_> and docs
[04:51] <phoenixx> can anyone tell me how to get the Creative 24 bit External USB Sound Card to work properly?  And are there programs to control all of its functions including the SPDIF and Optical ports and recording functions, etc?
[04:51] <timbe> Xenguy: soo... should I remove my client and find an older one?
[04:51] <VolkerOS> LumberJoe: you're getting pwned...
[04:51] <Faust-C> shrndegruv_: idk w/ ubuntu srry my linux does that automagicly
[04:51] <timbe> god why can't i stop tinkering
[04:51] <b0ri5> I could not find any nvidia packages in package manager??
[04:51] <LumberJoe> HAHAHA LUBERJOE! that's a good one :P i like to make pink lube :D
[04:51] <shrndegruv_> idk?
[04:51] <Faust-C> b0ri5: lol
[04:51] <VolkerOS> b0r15: make sure you have the correct Repos
[04:51] <timbe> Xenguy: there's no real reason for me to have a vnc other than the cool factor haha
[04:51] <shrndegruv_> timbe i have that problem too
[04:51] <Faust-C> b0ri5: apt-get search <app>
[04:51] <slacker> !languages
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <slacker> !lang
[04:52] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: sudo mkdir /media/hda1;sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1  will work prob
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lang - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <LumberJoe> seamus7, thanks a lot, that one's in my bookmarks =)
[04:52] <b0ri5> so I should run that in command prompt? (I'm a linux noob-just installed ubuntu)
[04:52] <royel> GuyFromHell: I could be wrong, tab completion only gives me "dhclient"
[04:52] <dyrne> !ntfs | shrndegruv_
[04:52] <ubotu> shrndegruv_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:52] <Faust-C> b0ri5: hmm
[04:52] <slacker> anyone here knows how to get only the .en/uk/us languages?
[04:52] <seamus7> LumberJoe: :)
[04:52] <Xenguy> timbe: only advice I can offer is google til you find the correct setup - meanwhile you can try vnc (make sure it is tunnelled over ssh) - there are lots of tutorials for ubuntu etc.
[04:52] <GuyFromHell> royel: aye, seems that way, I'm giving it a shot now
[04:52] <slacker> therefor removing all others...
[04:52] <GuyFromHell> royel: thanks
[04:52] <Faust-C> why do novice users pick ubuntu ..
[04:52] <royel> GuyFromHell: yw
[04:52] <b0ri5> free cd's?
[04:52] <Xenguy> timbe: I did a *lot* of googling over freenx :-)
[04:53] <slacker> Faust-C: because its a great system to work on?
[04:53] <tritium> Faust-C: easy of use
[04:53] <Faust-C> b0ri5: i use em for coastes :)
[04:53] <VolkerOS> Faust-C:  Probably cause its simple interface
[04:53] <Xenguy> timbe: but it can work - in the meantime there is vnc
[04:53] <timbe> Xenguy: thanks for all the help I really appreciate it
[04:53] <Xenguy> timbe: my pleasure
[04:53] <Faust-C> VolkerOS: simple doesnt mean easy
[04:53] <Faust-C> tritium: and easy lol
[04:53] <timbe> I love the ubuntu community
[04:53] <seamus7> Faust-C: same reason people who just want to get from point a to point b pick reliable cars... reliability.
[04:53] <b0ri5> lol, now I should run that command, replace app with nvidia?
[04:53] <Faust-C> slacker: and great how
[04:53] <Xenguy> timbe: check out x11vnc BTW
[04:53] <Faust-C> seamus7: that isnt true w/ ubuntu
[04:53] <Faust-C> b0ri5: yes
[04:53] <timbe> Xenguy: will do
[04:53] <vnux> I'm looking for help about how to switch to wlan-ng on edgy from hostap/orinoco
[04:54] <vnux> where should I go?
[04:54] <Faust-C> ubuntu has had more issues that i have toliet paper to wipe my ass w/
[04:54] <seamus7> Faust-C: yet that's how people new to Linux perceive it.
[04:54] <Xenguy> timbe: you run that as a server, then vnc into it (it can be configured to run over ssh of course - I just don't remember how ATM :-)
[04:54] <craigbass1976> timbe, I'd have to agree.  Of all the distros whose chats I have visited, ubuntu seems to be the more user friendly.
[04:54] <Faust-C> seamus7: well thats just a lie honestly
[04:54] <VolkerOS> all linux distros are good, what you are gonna use it for is what makes the difference... me as long as i have a console i'm happy
[04:54] <Faust-C> and when i came into linux i quickly went to something else
[04:54] <b0ri5> I got this:
[04:54] <b0ri5> admin@admin-desktop:~$ apt-get search nvidia
[04:54] <b0ri5> E: Invalid operation search
[04:54] <tritium> Faust-C: watch the language, please
[04:54] <pavs_> i created a user but forgot to give him -m own directory how do i assign a home directory to him now? since he doesnt have a home directory where does his history file is being saved?
[04:54] <seamus7> Faust-C: I think what you meant to say is "you're right"
[04:54] <Faust-C> tritium: ok whatever
[04:54] <slacker> Faust-C: ease of use, as said earlier
[04:54] <royel> Faust-C: the biggest reason, IMO.. the large community makes it appealing because of the support participation. nothing worse than using a distro that has a small community to frustrate someone who cant find that person who can help.
[04:54] <timbe> craigbass1976: amen to that
[04:54] <craigbass1976> timbe, fedora is a close second, but they get pissy sometimes when I don't think they should.
[04:54] <Faust-C> lol
[04:54] <quintin> b0ri5: apt-cache search, genius
[04:54] <Ferret> b0ri5: apt-cache search
[04:54] <Faust-C> royel: whatever as i see and you all do
[04:54] <TheDebugger> quintin: Friendly :)
[04:55] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, It didn't work.
[04:55] <quintin> Why did ubuntu get rid of my dual proc kernel?  wtf?
[04:55] <Faust-C> new users dont really know how to maintain thir systems
[04:55] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: huh
[04:55] <pavs_> Fausr-C if you dont like ubuntu what are you doing here?
[04:55] <LumberJoe> i'm happy with ubuntu who made me discover that linux isn't that hard and now i'm looking for the tools, books and websites that can make me a Guru... anyone's got hints?
[04:55] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: did it give you any error?
[04:55] <timbe> craigbass1976: I'm not a big redhat family man...hah but I have heard "good" things
[04:55] <Pancakes> When I pressed enter on ubuntu, it just when to that blinking "-" again.
[04:55] <dyrne> quintin: dont let it push you around
[04:55] <Faust-C> also if you install one ver of ubuntu the only way to upgrade is to get the new ISO
[04:55] <slacker> btw, I came here for a question, how can I tell ubuntu to have only one language, is it the obvious, remove all languages?
[04:55] <VolkerOS> ok
[04:55] <vnux> pavs, sounds like a troller
[04:55] <Faust-C> soo
[04:55] <tritium> Faust-C: not true
[04:55] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: PM
[04:55] <royel> Faust-C: I'm sorry, your statement confused me?
[04:55] <bobbyyu> Is the Alternate Install Disc a way to upgrade your Ubuntu?
[04:55] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: if you want to really learn ill help
[04:55] <Xenguy> timbe: bah - that's where I started - after debian/etc. you never go back :-)
[04:55] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: are you getting the bootloader from windows or grub?
[04:55] <royel> !upgrade | Faust-C
[04:55] <ubotu> Faust-C: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:55] <b0ri5> would nvidia-kernel-common work?
[04:55] <tritium> Faust-C: you can upgrade from one release to the next easily
[04:56] <craigbass1976> timbe, it's what I've cut my teeth on (fedora and cent) but ubuntu has SO much stuff available.
[04:56] <tritium> b0ri5: for what?
[04:56] <Faust-C> tritium: i use a distro that does roll release
[04:56] <TheDebugger> b0r15: The nvidia driver is nvidia-glx
[04:56] <Faust-C> so its way easier
[04:56] <Lasse_> Is there a way of dragging windows/applications between desktops ? Or do I have to right-click and the "move to desktop x" ?
[04:56] <VolkerOS> fedora and cent are server OS
[04:56] <b0ri5> I just need a nvidia driver
[04:56] <timbe> Xenguy: same here they had us install redhat in our sys admin class...I jus recently switched from gentoo
[04:56] <Pancakes> Um VolkerOS, I just get a black screen with a table, and it has the ubuntu stuff, then as Other Operating Systems: Windows Xp Home edition.
[04:56] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok
[04:56] <quintin> Really, why did I not get a dual cpu kernel when I upgraded? that's frikking stupid.
[04:56] <tritium> Faust-C: no need to spread FUD here.  You're not telling the truth about ubuntu release upgrades
[04:56] <SoulPropagation> Lasse_: there might be with beryl
[04:56] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: can i PM you
[04:56] <Xenguy> timbe: gentoo gives me shivers too ;-)  I'm way too lazy for that
[04:56] <craigbass1976> VolkerOS, except fedora has such a short life span that it doesn't make sense ot me to use it for a server.
[04:56] <royel> Faust-C: quit trolling an move on
[04:56] <Faust-C> tritium: well im not telling a lie either
[04:57] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: try editing the string which you are booting from and put this at the end "noapic" without the ""
[04:57] <Faust-C> royel: im not
[04:57] <SoulPropagation> Gentoo makes me soil myself
[04:57] <GionnyBoss> Lasse_, Ctrl + Alt + Shift + arrows moves the window in other workspaces... to drag it, use Beryl
[04:57] <Lasse_> SoulPropagation: I dont like compiz or beryl --- they eat away my limited resources ;)
[04:57] <VolkerOS> craigbass1976: that's cause it's a test bed for redhat
[04:57] <craigbass1976> I'm running FC5 right now on my laptop until I get around to putting Dapper on.
[04:57] <pavs_> Fausr-C maybe you dont realize that this channel is for helping out new users mainly.   You're lowering the SNR here.
[04:57] <Faust-C> ok thx for the laughs
[04:57] <Faust-C> and i could care less tritium
[04:57] <Xenguy> timbe: it's one of the sysadmin virtures, isn't it?  :-)
[04:57] <TheDebugger> pavs: beryl is not hard on the CPU
[04:57] <royel> tritium: lol, nicely put!
[04:57] <craigbass1976> Xenguy, I'm not trying to start trouble, honest.
[04:57] <Xenguy> timbe: er, virtues
[04:57] <StoneNote> Faust-C, I've moved from Breezy to Dapper to Edgy to Feisty without resorting to an iso
[04:58] <Lasse_> facugaich: where is that ? :)
[04:58] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok, when you select what you are gonna boot, you should see a set of options at the bottom
[04:58] <seamus7> bobbyyu: I used it when i wanted to have greater access to certain features... as I was planning a dual boot with Windows I had read that the Alternate CD would allow me to have more options when choosing how to set up the boot screen (Grub/MBR).
[04:58] <Lasse_> facugaich: or is that in Beryl ?
[04:58] <facugaich> Lasse_, bottom right corner in Gnome
[04:58] <Xenguy> craigbass1976: hrm?
[04:58] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: i can't remember clearly but one should be "extra options" or something similar
[04:58] <Pancakes> It doesn't have anything like that
[04:58] <craigbass1976> Xenguy, forget it, I thought the distro war comment was at me
[04:58] <Pancakes> It has ubuntu
[04:58] <Pancakes> Then recovery
[04:58] <Pancakes> And some mem test
[04:58] <timbe> Xenguy: hah yes it is. I just went full linux on everything except for my work comp. to force me to not have so many distractions with ruby....but here I am fiddling with vnc's
[04:58] <quaal> how do you update the locate command
[04:58] <Lasse_> facugaich: neat! guess that'll do :) Thank you very much!
[04:59] <pavs_> I wasnt talking about beryl...
[04:59] <shrndegruv_> i used mount -a /dev/device /mnt/win_c
[04:59] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: should be F5
[04:59] <shrndegruv_> and it worked
[04:59] <TheDebugger> quaal: sudo updatedb
[04:59] <k-w> just upgraded to 7.04 on my HP nx6325 - just works great, even can play enemy territory. hibernation etc. great!
[04:59] <facugaich> Lasse_, you welcome :)
[04:59] <dyrne> quaal: or sudo locate -u
[04:59] <Pancakes> After F5 what do I do?
[04:59] <quaal> TheDebugger, thanks
[04:59] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok give me a sec let me get some screenshots to refresh my mem
[04:59] <Xenguy> timbe: haha - install cygwin on your d0ze box at work too :-)
[04:59] <seamus7> bobbyyu: I think that the alternate CD also is easier to use if you have an older computer as it installs via text-mode whereas the live cd is a more intensive graphical installation
[04:59] <timbe> Xenguy: too late haha
[04:59] <Xenguy> timbe: excellent =)
[04:59] <StoneNote> tritium, what is SNR?
[05:00] <TheDebugger> Saturday Night Raccoon?
[05:00] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: click on this http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=751&slide=1
[05:00] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: is that what you see?
[05:00] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: or something similar?
[05:00] <tritium> StoneNote: Signal-to-Noise Ratio
[05:00] <pavs_> I wasnt talking about beryl...
[05:00] <pavs_> Fausr-C maybe you dont realize that this channel is for helping out new users mainly. If you wont help, or dont need any I am sure you wine about your sorrows somewhere else :)
[05:00] <StoneNote> tritium, thx. I shoulda known that :D
[05:00] <Pancakes> I can't get site to load, I'm lagging.
[05:00] <seamus7> Anyone here do regular backups to an external hard drive?
[05:00] <pavs_> lol
[05:00] <pavs_> mistake
[05:00] <tritium> pavs_: he's out of here...
[05:01] <timbe> Xenguy:indeed! again thanks for the point in the right direction.. I'm out of here for now
[05:01] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok no worries, when you boot up you should have grub come up with the list you mentioned
[05:01] <royel> Pancakes: back so soon!?
[05:01] <Xenguy> timbe: cheers
[05:01] <Pancakes> Yes:(
[05:01] <vnux> how do I change the module used by my PCMCIA WLAN card?
[05:01] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: if you click on F6 you should get further options
[05:01] <pavs_> tritium sorry mistake
[05:01] <tritium> ;)
[05:01] <dyrne> if youre installing ubuntu try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/  and let me know how it goes :)
[05:01] <vnux> uh
[05:01] <vnux> a .exe of ubuntu!?
[05:01] <Xenguy> careful
[05:02] <dyrne> installing from windows i mean
[05:02] <vnux> jeez didn't know it was possible
[05:02] <jmworx> Can anyone tell my what's the x-session-manager process supposed to do and why it's eating 319M of RAM at the moment?
[05:02] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I thought you wanted me to press F4?
[05:02] <Pancakes> 5*
[05:02] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: couldn't remember what key it was
[05:02] <royel> tritium: gotta say, it wasn't a moment too soon either, I was a few seconds from /ignore faust-c
[05:02] <Xenguy> jmworx: kill it - you know you want to =)
[05:02] <vnux> bah...thers no point doing that, I tried that kind of stuff years ago on mandrake 7.1
[05:02] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, and what will I need to replace?
[05:02] <vnux> linux4win.exe I think
[05:02] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: it's F6, F5 is accessibility
[05:03] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok you should see a few options
[05:03] <tritium> royel: yeah, it was justified, I'd say
[05:03] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:if i remember clearly
[05:03] <jmworx> Xenguy: Thanks, that helps a lot. Dapper's much less bloated in console mode anyway.
[05:03] <royel> tritium: he was clearly trolling
[05:03] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what will I do with these options?
[05:03] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: give me just one sec... since i'm on BSD right now i can't confirm
[05:04] <Xenguy> jmworx: mwaha :-)
[05:04] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: give me a sec, gonna get on a colleagues computer who is running ubuntu
[05:04] <Pancakes> k
[05:04] <mindstate> is there anyway to change the background color of the xfce4 panel?
[05:04] <royel> VolkerOS: wow, a BSD user without the Beastie attitude.. <gasp> :)
[05:04] <Dr_willis> its a trick :)
[05:04] <Xenguy> royel: impossible
[05:04] <TheDebugger> I'm a BSD user too :D
[05:05] <Xenguy> gasp
[05:05] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: got it, when you boot you get your list right?
[05:05] <hendrixski> hey, has anyone here ever set up multilingual support in Firefox?
[05:05] <Xenguy> :-)
[05:05] <jmworx> Still great isn't it. a few terminals, a few editors, gaim and xchat -- yet Dapper's currently taking a nice 1 GB worth of memory+swap (*excluding* disk buffers). That's without firefox/thunderbird open.
[05:05] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, yeah I get a list.
[05:05] <royel> I have a partition with BSD, but I certainly dont have enough arrogance to keep up with it :)
[05:05] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: the first option should be the kernel installed, highlight it and press "e" to edit the string
[05:05] <Xenguy> jmworx: time to switch distributions man ;-)
[05:05] <jmworx> Probably someone at Canonical felt like making Vista look small :-)
[05:06] <Mena> How to set a link to trash to chage the icon when its full and empty on desktop?
[05:06] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: you should get a long string, scroll to the very end of the string, and type this: noapic all together
[05:06] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: "noapic" no ""
[05:06] <Xenguy> jmworx: I think grabbing a lot of memory may be a deliberate strategy of the kernel these days...
[05:06] <pavs_> as a root is there a way to "follow" a user and see what he is doing without letting him now like last command or the files he editing
[05:06] <bruenig> Mena, ?an icon that empties the trash
[05:06] <royel> Mena: it should already do that?
[05:06] <bruenig> hmmm how did that happen
[05:06] <Xenguy> jmworx: could be wrong as I'm no kernel-hacker, but I've picked up that impression from running top enough times :-)
[05:06] <jmworx> Xenguy: The kernel isn't grabbing memory, the applications are, including x-session-manager which is leaking memory like crazy.
[05:06] <Pancakes> VolkerOS type it exactly
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: yea, noapic
[05:07] <Xenguy> jmworx: dapper?
[05:07] <Pancakes> So I do "noapic" no "" <--- That exactly?
[05:07] <shrndegruv_> i cant change permissions of an ntfs filesystem so non-root users can see it?
[05:07] <Pancakes> With all the quotes and everything
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: right
[05:07] <royel> bruenig: I believe he/she means, when there is trash it changes the icon to reflect it's got contents
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: no qoutes
[05:07] <jmworx> Xenguy: the kernel will use all available memory for *disk buffers*, the the 1 GB I'm reporting excludes that.
[05:07] <Mena> royel, no it doesnt iam on kubuntu but i cant find answer there
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: just noapic
[05:07] <bruenig> noted
[05:07] <Pancakes> So: noapic no
[05:07] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: i gave you the umask option
[05:07] <hendrixski> I'm coming in halfway into the conversation here....
[05:07] <Xenguy> jmworx: well, your course is clear - you need to switch to debian etch =)
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: noapic
[05:07] <hendrixski> is this about Ubuntu BSD??
[05:07] <jmworx> Xenguy: Dapper LTS, yes. Long Time to get Support.
[05:07] <royel> Mena: oh, try in #kubuntu .. we all use gnome here
[05:07] <Pancakes> Just?: noapic
[05:07] <hendrixski> if there is such a thing>
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: right
[05:08] <shrndegruv_> dyrne i missed it can i see it again?
[05:08] <Xenguy> jmworx: see my recommendation above
[05:08] <Pancakes> I replace that with the first option that says kernal?
[05:08] <doojin> hi
[05:08] <Pancakes> Or has that in it
[05:08] <derick_> please provide me sources for wxpython, Thanks!
[05:08] <MarkCDL>  can anyone help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2192256#post2192256
[05:08] <Mena> royel, i know but no answer there so i guess if i can find answer here ^_^
[05:08] <jmworx> Xenguy: Actually, if I had the time it takes to set things properly, I'd be running sid.
[05:08] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: no, you edit the string and type in noapic at the end of it
[05:08] <MarkCDL> gnome wont start.
[05:08] <Mena> :)
[05:08] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   under the options column change defaults to defaults,umask=000 no space and save. thats one way
[05:08] <royel> Mena: oh, an I didnt read your statement completely, maybe use the forums, or search the community docs . sorry
[05:08] <Pancakes> k VolkerOS
[05:08] <Pancakes> I'll go see
[05:08] <doojin> Anyone knows how to fix usplash which only chooses and fills 800x600 resolution on the left top of 1024x768 screen?
[05:08] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: don't erase anything on the string just type noapic at the end
[05:08] <Xenguy> jmworx: that is perfectly feasable (tho probably not in production :-)
[05:09] <dimeotane> any suggestions for games (not opengl though)
[05:09] <Pancakes> WIth a space
[05:09] <Pancakes> After the current thing
[05:09] <Pancakes> Right?
[05:09] <Mena> royel, ok :)
[05:09] <Lurner> I just installed the program Minicom , through the synaptic package manager. I can find the executable in the file system but I can't see that is was installed in the launcher thing.. how do I start the program Minicom once it's installed ?
[05:09] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: right, <space> noapic
[05:09] <dyrne> dimeotane: well tremulous(online strategy fps), wesnoth(like might and magic)
[05:09] <Pancakes> So blahblah kernal blah blah noapic
[05:09] <VolkerOS> right
[05:09] <Pancakes> k
[05:09] <jmworx> Xenguy: Sid's great for a development workstation. Just takes a long time to set up (which I don't have).
[05:09] <Pancakes> And I press F6.
[05:09] <dimeotane> (other than 3d opengl
[05:09] <Pancakes> Alright, here I go.
[05:09] <royel> Pancakes: good luck!
[05:09] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: k
[05:10] <jmworx> Ubuntu would be nice if people could just fix the bugs.
[05:10] <dyrne> dimeotane: trem is opengls though
[05:10] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: may tux be with you
[05:10] <shrndegruv_> whoa whats all that uuid stuff in there
[05:10] <phaedra> Lurner, minicom is text mode.  run it from a console.
[05:10] <Pancakes> If I return soon, it's bad news :(
[05:10] <quaal> why is it that beryl is still on my computer when i've sudo apt-get remove beryl
[05:10] <Lurner> oh thanks
[05:10] <royel> Pancakes: you have to come back to tell us if it works ..
[05:10] <jmworx> One wonders what's launchpad for -- except maybe for documentation purposes...
[05:10] <ki-eye> so, I found the wireless tools I need, but now I can't seem to get the other ethernet card to work
[05:10] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: that option won't hurt your system if it doesn't work, but if it does we have to make it permanent
[05:10] <hendrixski> quick question: language support in Firefox...can someone point me to a manual?
[05:10] <Pici> !lp
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <dimeotane> tremulous and enemy territory are the best ubuntu games IMHO.. .but I'm looking for stuff that can run on a P2
[05:10] <Xenguy> jmworx: I migrated one desktop workstation recently, and it took me about a week of evenings to get my box back :-)
[05:10] <ki-eye> need some way to get the drivers on the #%*#$ box
[05:10] <tritium> jmworx: the same argument would apply, then, to debian
[05:10] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: ignore it. ubuntu uses uuid instead of hda1 etc these days you can remove and put partition if you want
[05:10] <VolkerOS> brb gotta use the jogn
[05:10] <VolkerOS> jon
[05:11] <Xenguy> jmworx: a lot of little details accrue over time
[05:11] <tritium> jmworx, Xenguy: please stay on topic, or move your ubuntu-bashing discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:11] <shrndegruv_> ok thanx
[05:11] <shrndegruv_> i have to restart for it to work?
[05:11] <Xenguy> tritium: there has been no attempt on my part to bash ubuntu - I only support it actually
[05:11] <hendrixski> does anyone have spellchecking in two langauges?
[05:12] <tritium> Xenguy: then please stay on topic
[05:12] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: or sudo umount /media/whatever  then sudo mount -a
[05:12] <Savage-{> anybody know if Quicken 2007 runs fine in windows xp with online banking under vmware ok?
[05:12] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: you basically have to remount it
[05:12] <jmworx> tritium: I'm not bashing Ubuntu, I'd like it to improve since that's what I'm running. But the truth is that few bugs are ever being fixed. Even security related stuff (I can back it up).
[05:12] <Xenguy> tritium: I believe I was addressing concerns an ubuntu user had with dapper recently - to me that is definitely on topic (with a little humour mixed in of course :-)
[05:12] <hendrixski> Savage:  My assumption would be yes
[05:12] <Frogzoo> Savage-{: why wouldn't it? but that's a windows issue really
[05:13] <hendrixski> my experience with VMware is that Everything works
[05:13] <Savage-{> sometimes things don't work right
[05:13] <Lurner> I opened a terminal windows. then    cd /usr/bin   then minicom and I got the message cannot open/dev/tty8  how can I pre-configure Minicom to open the modem or the serial port ?
[05:13] <hendrixski> Savage: like what?
[05:13] <Savage-{> something to do with the vmware drivers on some apps
[05:13] <Savage-{> I'm trying to remember
[05:13] <gop> !usenet
[05:13] <maxagaz> is there a deb somewhere for sopcast ?
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usenet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <tritium> jmworx: with each release starting as a snapshot of debian sid, then you're also saying that few bugs in debian are ever being fixed
[05:13] <Savage-{> I tried to use something one time and it didn't work under vmware
[05:13] <Gothfunc> i've just installed jre, and the 'jar' command doesn't seem to exist.  how do i run jar files?
[05:13] <gop> !newsgroup
[05:13] <ubotu> There are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org
[05:14] <hendrixski> Savage, quicken doesn't use drivers as far as I know
[05:14] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc: java
[05:14] <Frogzoo> Savage-{: the biggest issue is the limited memory space of a vm
[05:14] <humblerodent> Hi, I have installed my NVidia driver using the official install file instead of the .deb from the repos.  It works fine, but each time I reboot the computer, X will not start unless I reinstall the driver....anyone know what could be causing this?  TIA
[05:14] <gop> what a good ubuntu gnome client for newsgroup
[05:14] <Lurner> I know a lot about usenet but I can't find the orginal question.. who asked what. you can pvt msg me
[05:14] <doojin> Does anybody know how to make usplash choose to draw at 1024x768?
[05:14] <Frogzoo> gop: pan
[05:14] <jmworx> tritium: What I mean is that bugs are reported against Dapper (and Edgy) and are never being fixed.
[05:14] <gop> !pan
[05:14] <Savage-{> damn I can't remember
[05:14] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc: java <command>
[05:14] <ubotu> pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 3616 kB
[05:14] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: i thought it should go jar -i installation-file.jar
[05:14] <Savage-{> i'll try it I guess
[05:14] <gop> thanks
[05:14] <phaedra> Lurner, You don't have to cd to any dir.  Configure minicom as root first...  jJust sudo minicom
[05:14] <Gothfunc> or something
[05:15] <hendrixski> jmworx:  you can open a case with Ubuntu support and getany bug moved up to the top of the list
[05:15] <Frogzoo> jmworx: a lot of the bugs can only be fixed upstream, but the bug reports are forwarded upstream
[05:15] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc: did you try java?
[05:15] <jmworx> tritium: Some are actually not in sid, like the "feature" that allows any local user with no priviledge to crash a Dapper (and Edgy I think) machine. Been reported 6 months ago or so. Not fixed to this date.
[05:15] <shrndegruv_> what about dump and pass columns in fstab?
[05:15] <royel> tritium: jmworx: take it to offtopic :)   .... j/k please dont kick me :)
[05:15] <hendrixski> Grogzoo:  Ubuntu works with upstream dev's too from what I understand
[05:15] <shrndegruv_> /dev/sda2       /media/win_c    ntfs    defaults,umask=000      0       0
[05:15] <Lurner> oh that worked.. cool.. thanks.
[05:15] <shrndegruv_> thats what i have right now
[05:15] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: yes... Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: UltraMixer-2/0/11-linux/jar
[05:15] <Lurner> who had that usenet question ?
[05:15] <tritium> royel: ;)
[05:15] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: thatll work   0  0 is fine
[05:16] <TheDebugger> humblerodent: Try adding "nvidia" to /etc/modules
[05:16] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc: jar -x?
[05:16] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: jar doesn't exist
[05:16] <hendrixski> I still want to know if anyone has configured spellchecking in multiple languages in Firefox?
[05:16] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: though i have a feeling it SHOULD
[05:16] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: perhaps i need to restart? :s
[05:16] <shrndegruv_> sweet that worked
[05:16] <jmworx> Frogzoo: Many bugs are not upstream. Or if they are (e.g. I'm maintaining Speex), the update won't ever make it despite the patch being submitted *before* the release of Dapper!
[05:16] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc: did you check that it was installed?
[05:16] <shrndegruv_> dyrne -- thanx
[05:17] <Pancakes> My computer hates me;(
[05:17] <smo> hi
[05:17] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: np
[05:17] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: jre is installed... surely jar comes with that? i can't find jar seperately
[05:17] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: any luck?
[05:17] <Pancakes> Afraid not
[05:17] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: any erros?
[05:17] <shrndegruv_> /dev/sda3           11706       12161     3662820   db  CP/M / CTOS / ..
[05:17] <shrndegruv_> what is that?
[05:17] <VolkerOS> errors*
[05:17] <pavs_> how to kick a user from shell
[05:17] <SoulPropagation> Jewfro-Macabbi: You're on IRC from your mobile?!
[05:17] <jmworx> hendrixski: How do I get a bug moved up the list?
[05:17] <royel> pavs_: kill their tty
[05:18] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: not sure :/
[05:18] <shrndegruv_> and whats hpfs?
[05:18] <ki-eye> note to self.. network card doesn't work so well when not seated in moboard
[05:18] <Xenguy> pavs_: slay
[05:18] <StoneNote> jmworx, sorry but your whole rant reminds me of the guy who was complaining how unstable his bxo had gotten and when I asked what he was running he replied "Windows 95".  Eventually the fixes aren't sent back down the chain and if you want them, you need to upgrade to the newest release. windows, linux, bsd. it applies to all of them.
[05:18] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, just the same mystery blinking dash of doom:/
[05:18] <hendrixski> jmworx: if you open a case they can give a bug more priority, after all, you're paying for it.  Just ask them :)
[05:18] <pavs_> slay?
[05:18] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: trying to think what could be the cause...
[05:18] <Jewfro-Macabbi> SoulPropagation, it's my primary connection, even dial up doesn't work out here....
[05:18] <pavs_> how do i find their tty i only pts/0 and pts/1
[05:18] <Xenguy> pavs_: apt-get install slay
[05:19] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: a file system but.. i dont know why its there
[05:19] <shrndegruv_> wierd
[05:19] <smo> anyone here tried vista?? i have (again) problems with it to make shares between my ubuntu and vista...
[05:19] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I think I should try deleting the partition then trying agian
[05:19] <Xenguy> pavs_: kills users based on userid IIRC
[05:19] <Pancakes> again*
[05:19] <SoulPropagation> Jewfro-Macabbi: wireless DUN? Or are you texting us
[05:19] <StoneNote> smo, not me.
[05:19] <pavs_> getting slay now
[05:19] <royel> StoneNote: not to argue, but Dapper is supposed to have LTS, which means bugs, security etc.. upgrading should not be required as there is no new LTS release yet
[05:19] <shrndegruv_> its taking up less than 500 blocks
[05:19] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: that would be the last thing to do, but that would for sure clear the problem... i'm thinking if grub is reading the correct partition
[05:19] <shrndegruv_> so i dont worry
[05:19] <shrndegruv_> maybe unused space
[05:19] <smo> k stone
[05:19] <jmworx> hendrixski: No, I'm not paying for it. I just thought I'd help by trying to fix year-old bugs and things like that.
[05:19] <bobbyyu> How do I use the ubotu
[05:19] <StoneNote> royel, Dapper 6.06 LTS does.  Dapper 6.10 does not.
[05:20] <Jewfro-Macabbi> SoulPropagation, I'm dialing into EDGE using a USB cable and the phone's built in modem.
[05:20] <pavs_> slay is awesome worked :)
[05:20] <Xenguy> pavs_: you can configure slay to do it's duty with insults too (IIRC)
[05:20] <royel> StoneNote: 6.10 is edgy, not dapper
[05:20] <StoneNote> 6.06.1
[05:20] <vnux> hi, how can I write in kanji on linux?
[05:20] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: it's "java -jar <file>"
[05:20] <hendrixski> :smo yeah, I tried it... it's not as coolas it promises to be
[05:20] <SoulPropagation> Jewfro-Macabbi: pwn.
[05:20] <StoneNote> you're right.
[05:20] <jmworx> StoneNote: Than what's the LTS supposed to mean?
[05:20] <[R] eaper> i need help with my ati card, i have the latest drivers, but take a look http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4847/atix1600qt6.jpg
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> jmworx: long term support
[05:20] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc:  ahh! knew java was somewhere in there
[05:20] <Jewfro-Macabbi> SoulPropagation, pwn?
[05:21] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, How do I remove the partition?
[05:21] <jmworx> tonyyarusso: I think you missed the first part of the conversation :-)
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> jmworx: Probably :)
[05:21] <Pancakes> I think I'm just going to give up for now.
[05:21] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: if it's a clean install i would just reinstall everything just to make sure...
[05:21] <jmworx> I think this is a good example of how things are working: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/speex/+bug/19482
[05:22] <tritium> jmworx: then get busy fixing!
[05:22] <jmworx> So is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/52600 but it's set to private (despite the bug being there for ages now)
[05:22] <royel> Pancakes: take a break, you might consider trying to reinstall from livecd again :(   often if I have trouble with an install thats sometiems the easiest route for me
[05:22] <quaal> why is it that beryl is still on my computer when i've sudo apt-get remove beryl
[05:22] <Frogzoo> jmworx: you did read the mention of #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[05:22] <vnux> quaal, uh maybe emerald?
[05:22] <smo> exact hendrixski
[05:22] <jmworx> tritium: It's been fixed more than a year ago (before the Dapper release). Just hasn't actually made it in yet!
[05:22] <smo> not so cool...
[05:22] <smo> prefer xp lol
[05:22] <hendrixski> quaal, all of beryl, you may have a bunch of stuff to uninstall
[05:23] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: try doing an install from the alternative cd
[05:23] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: instead of the livecd
[05:23] <smo> i just see by google smb2 for vista for smb replacement
[05:23] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: that usually solves an problems...
[05:23] <quaal> hendrixski, vnux, i can still open beryl settings manager
[05:23] <jmworx> Frogzoo: Yes, but I believe fixing bugs should be considered "on topic". Or did I miss something?
[05:23] <Azul> quaal, beryl loves you
[05:23] <royel> Pancakes: what he just said sounds like good advice
[05:23] <quaal> Azul, thanks.
[05:23] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, just called a freind, he'll be making me a copy.
[05:23] <moquist> I'm running Feisty on a brand-new MacBook. I'm trying to change the right and middle-click settings, and I've found several references to dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode, but mac_hid doesn't exist under my /proc/sys/dev/, and sysctl isn't happy when I try to set it in sysctl.conf. Any suggestions?
[05:23] <hendrixski> quaal, how about sudo apt-get remove beryl-manager ?
[05:23] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: aweomse
[05:24] <Pancakes> For now, at least. How do I remove partition?
[05:24] <quaal> hendrixski, did that one too
[05:24] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: i had problems with the livecd
[05:24] <hendrixski> oh
[05:24] <Azul> quaal, welcome, call me for any other issues
[05:24] <hendrixski> hhhmmm, don't knowthen
[05:24] <quaal> Azul, will do
[05:24] <royel> jmworx: its off-topic, unless your helping someone to work-around one.. IMO
[05:24] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: the alternative solved a lot of issues, especially with AMD systems
[05:24] <quaal> it doesnt show up in add/remove programs either
[05:24] <quaal> nothing from beryl does
[05:24] <subrosian> question for peoples, If I am using a laptop with two PCMCIA network cards, one wired, one wireless. Is there a better utility/thingy to handle hotswaping the two without rebooting
[05:25] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I'll try that, but I think I should remove the partition right now.
[05:25] <hendrixski> well, Beryl isn't supported, so Canonical has an excuse
[05:25] <Pancakes> Do I need to use CD to remove/delete the partition?
[05:25] <vnux> quaal, kill all instances of beryl before removing it?  I dunno..
[05:25] <moquist> I'm running Feisty on a brand-new MacBook. I'm trying to change the behavior of the F-keys to default to F1, F2, etc., and require fn+F1, etc. to do the special things. I've changed fnmode in pommed.conf and stopped and started pommed with no luck. Any suggestions?
[05:25] <royel> Pancakes: you can leave that partition, it wont hurt anything
[05:25] <bkudria> I just posted a new version of my 'snippit' app - a script to type text snippets for you quickly.  Now with in-place replacement support!  I'd appreciate any feedback! http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52197
[05:25] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: right
[05:25] <kapnkrunch> subrosian, u probably have to recompile the kernel to handle that
[05:25] <Pancakes> royel, won't it use up space?
[05:25] <subrosian> kapnkrunch: please explain?
[05:25] <hendrixski> alright, maybe some of the new guys can help me now:
[05:25] <royel> Pancakes: yeah, but if your going to reinstall with teh alternate, you can address that space at that time
[05:26] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: it will, but if you plan on using it again soon, you can leave it
[05:26] <hendrixski> multilingual support in firefox?
[05:26] <hendrixski> anyone?
[05:26] <dyrne> subrosian: you should be able to just plug/unplugg without issue. the old will be taken down and new brought up
[05:26] <Trini|Dreaming|T> My god!
[05:26] <Jewfro-Macabbi> hendrixski, it's in the options
[05:26] <Trini|Dreaming|T> This still is the Stumbleupon Irc server right?
[05:26] <subrosian> dyrne: it doesnt seem to, I unplug the wireless card, wait a minute, and put the wired one in, it still thinks it is wireless
[05:26] <killux> how can i change the font color on the panels?
[05:26] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I'd feel better if I removed it right now, then did it again.
[05:26] <kapnkrunch> subrosian, in general, hotswapping is something handled by the kernel so if ain't supported already w/in it, u'll have to either recompile the kernel to enable it or find the module to compile into it
[05:26] <hendrixski> JewFro... I have two languages showing in options
[05:27] <hendrixski> but the spell check for the other doesn't work :(
[05:27] <VolkerOS> ok
[05:27] <Jewfro-Macabbi> hendrixski, edit, preferences, advanced, languages...
[05:27] <royel> Pancakes: honestly, your just putting yourself thru more trouble than you should, it wont hurt a thing
[05:27] <subrosian> kapnkrunch: it DOES do it, but I have to plug and unplug it a few times (sometimes) and sometimes I need to enable and disable it before it goes away when I pull it out)
[05:27] <Savage-{> subrosian: google - howto <your-distro-type> kernel compile
[05:27] <hendrixski> aaaahhhhh. Ok
[05:27] <hendrixski> Thanks Jewfro
[05:28] <hendrixski> I see where I was doing it wrong.
[05:28] <Savage-{> subrosian: nm
[05:28] <Savage-{> subrosian: it should be setup right then
[05:28] <Savage-{> subrosian: you need network manager
[05:29] <Savage-{> there is a networkmanager package that handles wireless and wired connections
[05:29] <kapnkrunch> subrosian, keep in mind that hotswapping is relatively new concept and it's not a very easy task in windows even
[05:29] <kapnkrunch> i think Savage-{ just answered subrosian's question
[05:29] <subrosian> Savage-{: Do you think network manager will do a better job then the gnome networking thingy
[05:30] <Savage-{> subrosian: yes
[05:30] <Savage-{> subrosian: I use it at work on my thinkpad
[05:30] <cdemwel1> hello
[05:30] <subrosian> Savage-{: can the two run together, or must I remove the other one first
[05:30] <shaowhite> Ubuntu
[05:30] <cdemwel1> does ubuntu offer academic support options like RHEL does?
[05:30] <hendrixski> Jewfro...Nope.. still doesn't work...
[05:30] <Savage-{> subrosian: works with the laptop wifi and wired
[05:31] <cdemwel1> My university currently uses red hat, which costs $30/annum/workstation in support as far as I can tell
[05:31] <Savage-{> subrosian: I think you select it in the options
[05:31] <cdemwel1> however, the installations are buggy, old, and generally horrible
[05:31] <ismail> guys how do i configure the screen resolution?
[05:31] <cdemwel1> not suprising since RHEL is a pain to administer from what I can see
[05:31] <tritium> !support | cdemwel1
[05:31] <ubotu> cdemwel1: For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support For IRC support, join #ubuntu / #kubuntu / #xubuntu etc
[05:31] <hendrixski> I switched edit-preferences-advanced-languages to have Polish on top of the list,then switched keyboard to polish, and it still doesn't spellcheck :(
[05:31] <cdemwel1> yes, looked there thanks
[05:31] <VolkerOS> my big mac got pwned by the bag
[05:32] <cdemwel1> just didn't see any mention of academic pricing
[05:32] <Savage-{> subrosian: I don't have a wireless in range when i'm at work but I do when I'm at home but I haven't brought my laptop home in a while so I can't remember specifically, I jsut know that network manager is the way to go
[05:32] <cdemwel1> I thought perhaps I wasn't seeing it
[05:32] <Pancakes> Thanks for all the help VolkerOS.
[05:32] <subrosian> Savage-{: last question, (uve been very helpful), are there any better drivers or utilities for the network chipset that starts with an "o" (i forgot its name)
[05:32] <oritemis> good night ppl
[05:32] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: any time, let me know if you have any more trouble
[05:32] <kapnkrunch> cdemwel1, ubuntu is completely free. if anything, just use edubuntu
[05:32] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: the alternative CD should help...
[05:32] <cdemwel1> well I know that it's free, but they'll mention the support subscription they get from RH
[05:32] <jmworx> tritium: Just curious, is there a process to get a package *removed* from Ubuntu (universe).
[05:33] <Savage-{> subrosian: networking drivers shouldn't be an issue
[05:33] <kapnkrunch> subrosian, linux should be able to handle multiple ethernet cards since it's a server os ffs
[05:33] <ismail> guys how do i configure the screen resolution?
[05:33] <cdemwel1> and I know that Canonical offers support, but at $250/year/workstation it's not really competitive
[05:33] <Pancakes> If it doesn't, I'm just going to scrap linux, and stick with winblows:/
[05:33] <oritemis> I have a pocket pc and want to sync it with google calendar. Would I use evolution as midle tier, or there are a way to do this directly?
[05:33] <Savage-{> subrosian: I'm probably not the best guy for that
[05:33] <StoneNote> cdemwel1, http://www.ubuntu.com/support  there is a list of partners and a marketplace you can purchase support from
[05:33] <tritium> jmworx: not in place, no
[05:33] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: it should ;)
[05:33] <Savage-{> subrosian: eth0 works for me all the time
[05:33] <cdemwel1> I see
[05:33] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: what you could do is consider another distro
[05:33] <jmworx> tritium: Anything you can suggest to achieve that?
[05:33] <royel> cdemwel1: I am almost positive they offer an support system as well, but most of us in here are not qualified to discuss it, you need to try an find a contact person to get academic pricing support info.
[05:33] <astrobit> when i start gnome, theres always a brown background only while the boot slash is being loaded....how can i change the color of that background?
[05:33] <tritium> jmworx: no.  Why would we want that?
[05:34] <subrosian> Savage-{: and kapnkrunch, it works pretty well, except it cant search for wifi, and is sluggish sometimes
[05:34] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, know any better ones?
[05:34] <cdemwel1> royel, I certainly will if I need to; I figured someone here might know whether or not what I'm talking about actually exists
[05:34] <Pancakes> I have knoppix 5.1, suse, and ubuntu on my desk.
[05:34] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: you can try Kubuntu, also SuSE (which pretty GUI orientated)
[05:34] <Pancakes> Not sure if the suse works
[05:34] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: also CentOS
[05:34] <royel> cdemwel1: it does, we just dont know the details well enough to quote anything
[05:35] <cdemwel1> woo
[05:35] <_pHI_> hey, i just installed 6.06.1 server. I was wondering how to set up unattended upgrades of the server... is all i need to do an apt-get install unattended-upgrades? when will the updates happen? does it write a cron job?
[05:35] <cdemwel1> sweet.
[05:35] <kapnkrunch> subrosian, u mean that wifi is slow? well... wifi is always slow...
[05:35] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: these two links might help you decide: http://www.osdir.com and http://www.distrowatch.com
[05:35] <aeenima> trying to compile something that requires libfaac-dev, when i go to install libfaac-dev it gives an error:   Depends: libmp4-dev but it is not installable.  any ideas?
[05:35] <cdemwel1> I'll say there's likely to be something, and leave it there
[05:35] <oritemis> I have a pocket pc and want to sync it with google calendar. Would I use evolution as midle tier, or there are a way to do this directly?
[05:35] <hendrixski> oh well... I'll try the language support in Firefox again tomorrow :(
[05:35] <Savage-{> subrosian: blame the vendors and microsoft for that
[05:35] <jmworx> tritium: The speex package (not libspeex1) is broken on x86 and segfaults on startup 100% of the time. The problem has been fixed a long time ago and a patch posted. Nobody's willing to apply. This is only damaging the image of Speex for no reason. I'd like the package removed.
[05:35] <hendrixski> thanks, g'night
[05:35] <royel> Pancakes: what version of Suse?
[05:35] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, won't load. I'm having internet problems:/
[05:35] <Pancakes> Let me check
[05:35] <subrosian> kapnkrunch: not slow... sluggish... It seems that sometimes I have to disconnect and reconnect to make it work properly. Like the driver doesn't initiate properly sometimes
[05:35] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: :(
[05:35] <Pancakes> Doesn't say.
[05:36] <tritium> jmworx: it would be better to request that the patch be applied
[05:36] <jmworx> jmworx: Sorry, I meant on x86-64, not x86.
[05:36] <kapnkrunch> Savage-{, sooner or later, people will switch over to linux, it's only a matter of time
[05:36] <aeenima> libmp4 is supposed to be libmp4v2-dev can i somehow change the dependencies?!
[05:36] <oritemis> don't anyone had tryied that?
[05:36] <jmworx> tritium: I did that, several time, months ago.
[05:36] <Pancakes> He just wrote Suse Live/Installation Cd
[05:36] <tritium> removing a package that can be fixed makes absolutely no sense
[05:36] <Trixsey> package to handle rar/zip in Ubuntu?
[05:36] <Trixsey> you guys know any?
[05:36] <jmworx> tritium: See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/speex/+bug/19482
[05:36] <jrib> !rar | Trixsey
[05:36] <ubotu> Trixsey: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:36] <Savage-{> kapnkrunch: I hope so kinda
[05:36] <Timw> hey guys
[05:36] <tritium> jmworx: I saw it.
[05:36] <Timw> i have  a question
[05:36] <royel> Pancakes: I used Suse for a while, it's a good alternative to Ubuntu .. if you must :)
[05:36] <Trixsey> jrib, how about zip? :/
[05:36] <ismail> guys how do i configure the screen resolution?
[05:36] <Timw> i am trying to open a nsv file
[05:37] <dyrne> subrosian: sure it isnt just an issue with network manager?
[05:37] <jrib> Trixsey: click the link :)
[05:37] <alex__> i installed ubuntu about 2 weeks ago and now the computer has slowed down during boot up and opening programs
[05:37] <tritium> ismail: there is a configuraton applet
[05:37] <Pancakes> I'll put it into consideration
[05:37] <jmworx> tritium: So? Yes it can be fixed, but it's clear it's not going to. I'd like it removed.
[05:37] <subrosian> well, thanks all, uve led me in the right direction, I'm going to go try network manager and screw around with the card a bit :)
[05:37] <Azul> fedora is a better alternative
[05:37] <Savage-{> kapnkrunch: I would like support but I do like the freedom and no viruses benefit
[05:37] <aeenima> can anyone help me resolve a bug in package dependencies?
[05:37] <ismail> its missing a lot of resolutions
[05:37] <tritium> jmworx: thanks for sharing your opinion
[05:37] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: it's very GUI orientated, with focus on KDE mainly. Very easy and straightforward... backed by Novell
[05:37] <oritemis> strange, why noone answers me? My question is silly?
[05:37] <kapnkrunch> Savage-{, same here
[05:37] <jmworx> tritium: It's not an opinion, it's a request.
[05:37] <royel> !resolution | ismail
[05:37] <Savage-{> subrosian: you on a laptop?
[05:37] <ubotu> ismail: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:37] <_pHI_> any ideas/howto do the unattended-upgrades??
[05:37] <Timw> or download one but i want to open it with mplayer rather than totem now i click other but i don't really understand the filesystem
[05:37] <Azul> oritemis, either no one knows, or no one cares
[05:37] <Timw> where do i go to find the program mplayer
[05:38] <VolkerOS> ALL: brb, gotta go re-rack some servers
[05:38] <ismail> ok thanks
[05:38] <aeenima> can anyone help me resolve a bug in package dependencies?  Is it possible?
[05:38] <seamus7> Anyone do regular backups to an external hard drive? what method or program do you use?
[05:38] <subrosian> Savage-{: yeah, IBM A21m (700mhz 256 ram) running xubuntu
[05:38] <Savage-{> Timw: console: apt-get install mplayer mplayer-gui
[05:38] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I have like no experence with *nix, only experence I have is an irc shell:/
[05:38] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, use cron
[05:38] <jmworx> tritium: I mean seriously, you consider that acceptable to ship something 100% broken and not be willing to fix it?
[05:38] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: check out http://www.distrowatch.com when your inet gets better
[05:38] <ismail> im missing the 1280X1024
[05:38] <aeenima> is there any way i can force a package to install if the dependency is incorrect?
[05:38] <Savage-{> subrosian: cool I like IBM lately
[05:38] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: they give you and explanation of each distro...
[05:38] <seamus7> Timw: to install you could do 'sudo aptitude install mplayer'
[05:39] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:  give me a sec, have some servers i gotta go mess with
[05:39] <Jewfro-Macabbi> royel, I used Suse for a while, a prefer debian based distros as apt is far superior to rpm in terms of ease.
[05:39] <Trixsey> How do I compress files to zip with the archive manager? I only managed .tar.gz
[05:39] <Timw> yea i installed it
[05:39] <zorthos> Im wondering if any one can point me to a site that will detail how to recover a password using a live cd in ubuntu?
[05:39] <royel> Jewfro-Macabbi: same here!
[05:39] <Timw> the problem is opening it with firefox right off the bat
[05:39] <Trixsey> nvm
[05:39] <tritium> jmworx: it's not a matter of being unwilling.  It's a matter of limited resources.  There are around 20,000 packages, and nowhere near that many MOTUs and developers.
[05:39] <Trixsey> worked now :p
[05:39] <subrosian> Savage-{: its doing the job, I found it in the trash, replaced the harddrive, ram, battery, keyboard, powersupply, added network cards, etc
[05:39] <aeenima> anyone know?
[05:39] <alex__> has anyone experienced slow performance after ubuntu install?
[05:39] <royel> Jewfro-Macabbi: if Suse had apt, I'd never have left .. shh!
[05:39] <Savage-{> subrosian: lol
[05:40] <subrosian> Savage-{: screen worked, and thats all I cared about, everything else I either had laying around, or I could get cheap
[05:40] <seamus7> kapnkrunch: i assume thats a task scheduler command in bash .... do you mean to use cron to copy files to a backup folder and maybe tar them?
[05:40] <jmworx> tritium: Then remove it. I'm fine with that and at least people will be downloading a version that works from the website.
[05:40] <Savage-{> subrosian: better than nothing
[05:40] <oritemis> Azul: I am not asking what OS is better, or any other silly question, just if there are some sync tool for pocket pc and google calendar thru ubuntu, or if I should use evolution as middle tier. I don't think this is silly.
[05:40] <bimberi> jmworx: Have you emailed the ubuntu-devel ML?
[05:40] <royel> !root | zorthos this might provide you with enough info to get you started
[05:40] <ubotu> zorthos this might provide you with enough info to get you started: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:40] <jmworx> bimberi: I've emailed pretty much everyone, including that.
[05:40] <zorthos> royel thanks
[05:41] <royel> zorthos: I hope it helps
[05:41] <zorthos> ubotu thanks
[05:41] <richduhrm> how do i see how many gigs i have left on linux drive without using qtparted?
[05:41] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:41] <Timw> seamus, i already install mplayer throught the add/remove programs, i just want to be able to open it right off of firefox
[05:41] <tritium> jmworx: please quit bothering me with this issue
[05:41] <bimberi> jmworx: I see.  No wonder you're harping :|
[05:41] <Azul> oritemis, i never said it was + i don't have the answer
[05:41] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, yeah, or just have cron run a script
[05:41] <aeenima> trying to compile something that requires libfaac-dev, when i go to install libfaac-dev it gives an error:   Depends: libmp4-dev but it is not installable.  THe dependency is incorrect, its supposed to be libmp4v2-dev.  any ideas how to fix the dependency?
[05:41] <dyrne> richduhrm: most people do df -h
[05:41] <kelsin> richduhrm: "df" in a term
[05:41] <richduhrm> ok cool
[05:41] <subrosian> Savage-{: now the joke is that my company gave me a Dell Latitude D620 and I rarely EVER use it
[05:41] <seamus7> kapnkrunch: i wonder what the best compression is?
[05:41] <Azul> oritemis, i'm just telling you what it means when no one replies to you
[05:41] <oritemis> Azul: I see. Thank you anyway for care to answer me.
[05:41] <Savage-{> subrosian: oh btw, you need to # out the /etc/network/interfaces devices before using network manager
[05:41] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, to get it to actually back to a cd/dvd, u'll actually need something less primitive
[05:41] <kapnkrunch> *up
[05:42] <smo> damn vista : ipconfig -> ipv4...192.168.11  and just 2 lines later ipv4 again ip <IP_ADDRESS> and i can ping them from another pc!!!
[05:42] <smo> wtf
[05:42] <richduhrm> thnx dyrne
[05:42] <smo> <IP_ADDRESS>*
[05:42] <Sisodiya> Hi, I m new to UBUNTU.. please tell me which software i should use for burnung CD
[05:42] <seamus7> kapnkrunch: i have external usb hard drives so i dont' have to do any burning ... i may not backup any of my / directories ... probably just my /home folder
[05:42] <justdave> I'm using x11vnc so I can view the same thing on a VNC client that's on the screen currently, and I'm finding that the vncserver isn't sending the content of the screen in certain video modes (perhaps OpenGL?)  anyone have any ideas if there's X11 settings I can change to make everything still draw on the remote screen?
[05:42] <oritemis> Azul: Is the forty day I came here. Did a question and no one even answer.
[05:42] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, i usually prefer zip only cuz i generally go between windows, but otherwise, i don't know
[05:42] <dyrne> Sisodiya: overwhelmingly most people like to install k3b
[05:42] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, if it's to a usb drive, then u're fine
[05:43] <dyrne> Sisodiya: but you can burn using your file manager i believe
[05:43] <Sisodiya> thmks
[05:43] <jmworx> tritium: To get back to my original question (which was *not* to complain), what would be the best way to get the package removed?
[05:43] <kelsin> Sisodiya: gnomebaker is also a option
[05:43] <Azul> oritemis, hard luck
[05:43] <subrosian> Savage-{: good to know, im going to go screw around with it, Ill be back later if/when I have another issue :) Thanks very much :)
[05:43] <tritium> jmworx: I told you, there is no process for that, nor is it the right approach
[05:43] <oritemis> Azul: I hope so.
[05:43] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, all u have to do is make sure that the usb drive is in the computer at the time of the scheduled back up
[05:43] <Savage-{> subrosian: after you do that in console: ifconfig - to see if how many network interfaces are loaded and ifdown them and then ifup.  ifdown eth0 for example then ifup eth0
[05:43] <Azul> oritemis, people who answer are a lot less than people who ask
[05:43] <VolkerOS> back
[05:44] <Azul> oritemis, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:44] <jmworx> tritium: If it was (e.g.) a copyright infringement, how would you handle it?
[05:44] <oritemis> Azul: I am sure of that.
[05:44] <royel> Sisodiya: I would recommend using Gnomebaker as a first option, since it won't require you to pull in all sorts of KDE libs
[05:44] <VolkerOS> gone again. brb
[05:44] <subrosian> Savage-{: got it
[05:44] <oritemis> Azul: I will thank you!
[05:44] <tritium> jmworx: it's not
[05:44] <paras> channel, i have just debootstrap edgy , chrooted and installed x-server-xorg x-window-system with no problem.. but when i install gnome-core it left me with errors in configuraion due to dependencies.. help plz
[05:44] <seamus7> kapnkrunch: ok yeah thx.. i may just do a dragndrop but i'm testing some backup packages in the repositories that do scheduled ones and compress
[05:45] <TheDebugger> The only reason i have kdelibs on my system is Amarok :/
[05:45] <jmworx> tritium: That's why I said "if".
[05:45] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, w/e works
[05:45] <tritium> jmworx: please drop it.
[05:46] <jmworx> tritium: What would you do if someone was shipping a broken version of Ubuntu and refusing to stop or fix it?
[05:46] <justdave> I know it's capable of rendering what's on the screen, because if I close the connection and reopen it, I get a shot of what's currently on the screen, it just doesn't update until I get to a screen that goes back to a different video mode
[05:46] <seamus7> Timw: you want mplayer to be your firefox default plulgin for multimedia you come upon while browsing the internet OR do you mean something else?
[05:46] <justdave> (or have the client request a complete refresh)
[05:46] <Timw> seamus: all i want is to find the executable when opening a file in firefox
[05:47] <vnux> im trying to install wlan-ng and I get asked for the pcmcia-cs source dir...where should that be located?
[05:47] <seamus7> Timw: for the mplayer plugin for firefox see this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28Mplayer.29_with_plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[05:47] <Timw> like in windows when you open a file you go to program files->and the file name
[05:47] <Timw> is there something like that for firefox
[05:47] <Timw> in linux
[05:47] <tritium> jmworx: nobody is _refusing_ to fix it.  Evidently you're refusing to quit harassing me.  Consider this your first Code of Conduct warning.
[05:47] <royel> jmworx: I dont think tritium is a developer nor has teh power to change anything, your persistance no matter how admirable is also getting very tiresome to hear, so do us all a favor an give it a rest, send a formal complaint to Ubuntu if it matters that much to you
[05:47] <Azul> Timw, don't expect linux to act like windows
[05:47] <jrib> Timw: /usr/bin/mplayer
[05:48] <Jewfro-Macabbi> oritemis, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7712, this maybe helpful, but not sure
[05:48] <kelsin> Timw: most binaries are located in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin, you can type "whereis <programname>" in a terminal to find where it is located
[05:48] <Timw> jrib, might have answer my wuestion
[05:48] <aeenima> trying to compile something that requires libfaac-dev, when i go to install libfaac-dev it gives an error:   Depends: libmp4-dev but it is not installable.  THe dependency is incorrect, its supposed to be libmp4v2-dev.  any ideas how to fix the dependency?
[05:48] <tritium> royel: I'm not a core developer, no.  I can only upload to universe.
[05:48] <jmworx> royel: where do I send that?
[05:48] <StoneNote> jmworx, http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671723650
[05:49] <royel> jmworx: I dont know off-hand, nor will I research it for you, I would start at ubuntu.com
[05:49] <dkbg> wow linux installation sucks
[05:49] <dkbg> Pancakes: you still here?
[05:49] <Pancakes> Yes
[05:49] <kondor21> just noticed on disto watch, 3000+ in the last month
[05:49] <jmworx> StoneNote: Thanks, but I was at this stage last year. Now, I'm doing damage control
[05:49] <VolkerOS> -Back
[05:49] <seamus7> Timw: sorry yeah i think jrib answered your question
[05:49] <Syrup> Yummy Pancakes and /me
[05:49] <dkbg> when you get the blinking cursor (the "_") does it just stay blinking or does the screen turn totally blank?
[05:50] <Savage-{> dkbg: depends on who is installing it
[05:50] <oritemis> I have a pocket pc and want to sync it with google calendar. Would I use evolution as midle tier, or there are a way to do this directly?
[05:50] <Pancakes> It keeps the "-" until I press a key.
[05:50] <VolkerOS> dkbg:  i think she is just getting the _
[05:50] <dkbg> damn
[05:50] <oritemis> wow, sorry
[05:50] <oritemis> wrong channel
[05:50] <TECHWG> Hello people
[05:51] <Azul> lol
[05:51] <Timw> seamus: it okay
[05:51] <dkbg> because when I first installed ubuntu I had a similar issue where my screen was just blank, it was my video card
[05:51] <Timw> seamus: another question
[05:51] <Savage-{> Linux = Not for Apes!
[05:51] <TECHWG> i have some slight trouble i was wondering that you can help me with ?
[05:51] <jrib> !ask | TECHWG
[05:51] <ubotu> TECHWG: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:51] <Timw> i just installed ubuntu and i can't seem to write on a fat32 system where windows is stored
[05:51] <TECHWG> ok lol
[05:51] <aeenima> and pray someone answers..
[05:51] <dkbg> Savage-{: well if people want it to reach "critical mass" its going to need to be :P
[05:51] <dyrne> Timw: sure its not ntfs?
[05:51] <Timw> seabus; is there anyway to unrestrict my writing priveledge
[05:52] <tritium> jmworx: if it gets fixed upstream, it should get into debian sid, and it should get into an upcoming ubuntu release via a sync
[05:52] <Timw> positive
[05:52] <Azul> Timw, mount the thing
[05:52] <seamus7> Timw: are you sure it's fat32 and not ntfs?
[05:52] <Timw> all my ntfs this are all not even showing up on my desktop
[05:52] <Savage-{> dkbg: i'm just joking really, but I don't care to be honest, I like it the way it is
[05:52] <TECHWG> I have an Maudio Revolution 5.1 audio card, and it is not letting my my microphone work, i have onboard that i mess the settings up and im just confused
[05:52] <dyrne> Timw: sorry for asking but its a common question here
[05:52] <Azul> Timw, add the 'rw' option for your windows partition in /etc/fstab
[05:52] <TECHWG> I tried to install a new alsa but it will not install
[05:52] <justdave> jmworx: that sounds more like a trademark issue than a copyright one.
[05:52] <aeenima> i thought the packaging in ubuntu was going to help resolve dependency problems i had in the past... =(
[05:52] <dkbg> Savage-{: :)
[05:52] <justdave> if Speex is a trademark
[05:52] <aeenima> no such luck
[05:52] <vnux> some compilation is asking me for kernel sources...what should I look for in apt-get to get them?  I have 2.6.17
[05:52] <TECHWG> i really want to move away from microsoft for my primary and move ti ubuntu and use Xp in vmware i installed
[05:53] <TECHWG> any ideas ?
[05:53] <dkbg> operating systems suck in general for end users
[05:53] <kuma> hi, my USB thumb drive got ionfected with a virus, Is there any antivirus I can run from Linux?
[05:53] <zorthos> Is it possible to boot up from a ubuntu live cd. mount a file system then chrooting in to the new system?