[14:20] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:21] <rick_h_> go go gadget snow blower
[14:21] <rick_h_> or thrower
[14:24] <brousch__> shovel
[14:24] <cmaloney> Shovel here as well
[16:03] <greg-g> 52F here :)
[16:12] <cmaloney>    Temperature: 18.0 F (-7.8 C)
[16:18] <_stink_> i'mthinking i won't shovel at all
[16:21] <cmaloney> I didn't have a choice.
[16:26] <brousch__> _stink_: You will shovel or I will drive a load of snow to you for you to shovel
[16:27] <rick_h_> I can deliver a pickup bed's worth
[16:27] <_stink_> can't the sun do it for me
[16:27] <_stink_> when March comes
[16:27] <rick_h_> lol
[16:33] <cmaloney> If it were up to me I wouldn't ever shovel.
[16:58] <ColonelPanic001> shoveling can be nice sometimes
[16:58] <rick_h_> yea, good audiobook time
[16:58] <ColonelPanic001> provided I'm not in a big hurry, it's decent exercise, and if it takes a while, sort of a meditative thing. The simple repeated actions, maybe. It can be relaxing in its own way.
[16:58] <ColonelPanic001> Also I'm an able-bodied 31 year old. I'm not getting a damn snowblower.
[16:59] <brousch__> >_>
[16:59] <ColonelPanic001> not a lot to shovel anyway
[17:02] <rick_h_> yea, we got just over 3" here
[17:02] <rick_h_> though I claim shoulder for snow blowing :)
[17:03] <brousch__> I got about 8-9"
[17:03] <rick_h_> lake bonus!
[17:04] <greg-g> 0"
[17:04] <greg-g> (how many more times can I make that series of jokes?)
[17:04] <rick_h_> :P
[17:04] <rick_h_> I need a good snow fall to play in and see if I need to get snow tires on the truck.
[17:04] <rick_h_> played in 4x4 mode a bit this morning
[17:05] <_stink_> i'm pretty sure my snowblower is not easier than shoveling.
[17:05] <_stink_> but i am cheap and bought a crap snowblower
[17:05] <rick_h_> if you get good shovels and it's not that super wet heavy stuff I think that's true
[17:05] <rick_h_> and hte shovels get down to the cement a bit better
[17:06] <greg-g> yeah, you always have that last 1/8" of snow on the ground from snow blowers
[17:06] <greg-g> 1/8 - 1/4
[17:06] <rick_h_> http://goo.gl/QZQlUM
[17:06] <rick_h_> best thing evar! ^
[17:29] <brousch__> too short
[17:30] <brousch__> Snow was flowing over my tall shovel
[17:49] <brousch__> https://twitter.com/MarsWxReport/status/553189526487965698
[20:39] <cmaloney> rick_h_: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kushaldas/13953484303/in/photostream/
[23:36] <rick_h_> cmaloney: :)


[00:49] <rdarw> major
[16:32] <jdstrand> hi!
[16:32] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:32] <tyhicks> #startmeeting
[16:33] <tyhicks> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:33] <tyhicks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:33] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:33]  * tyhicks kicks the meeting bot
[16:34] <teward> tyhicks: possible it's down with all the other bots?
[16:35] <teward> if you'd like i'll drop Archangel (my bot) in here, then provide a publicly accessible copy of the logs for you for the meeting.
[16:35] <teward> or pull it from my raw logs here on my client
[16:35] <tyhicks> teward: possibly - I'm not aware of any others being down
[16:35] <tyhicks> teward: thanks but I've got a logger going
[16:35] <teward> ack
[16:36] <tyhicks> I guess I'll just proceed
[16:36]  * teward lurks
[16:36] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:36] <tyhicks> Thanks to Otto Kekäläinen (otto) for providing a debdiff to update mariadb-10.0 in vivid (LP: #1451677)
[16:36] <jdstrand> fyi, in the past when the bot was down I just pasted the irc into the wiki page rather than pointing it somewhere else
[16:36] <tyhicks> ok
[16:36] <jdstrand> (at the end of the meeting)
[16:36] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:36] <tyhicks> jdstrand: you're up
[16:37] <jdstrand> today we had the oobe meeting with design. it went well, there are followups and discussions that need to be had that we'll capture in trello
[16:37] <jdstrand> I need to continue going over the IoM summaries and takeaways
[16:37] <jdstrand> I've got an embargoed item I am working on
[16:38] <jdstrand> I'd like to finish up the ubuntu-personal-security policy bits
[16:38] <jdstrand> then pick up a card as have time
[16:38] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[16:39] <mdeslaur> I'm on bug triage this week
[16:39] <mdeslaur> it's a short week for me as I'm on holiday friday and monday
[16:39] <mdeslaur> I'm working on a certificate issue in the ca-certificates package which I hope will be fixed soon
[16:39] <mdeslaur> and I'm going down the CVE list
[16:40] <mdeslaur> I'll probably be stealing the in-progress nbd updates from sbeattie
[16:40] <mdeslaur> that's about it, sbeattie, you're up
[16:40] <sbeattie> I'm on cve triage this week
[16:40] <sbeattie> I'm trying to finish up the last patch reviews needed for an apparmor 2.10 release that we can pull into wily
[16:41] <sbeattie> I need to look at doko's gcc-5 plans
[16:41] <sbeattie> and that will probably consume my week
[16:41] <sbeattie> tyhicks: you're up
[16:42] <tyhicks> I'm in the happy place this week
[16:42] <tyhicks> I had a little bit of community sponsoring work left over from last week that I did this morning (smoke test and publish mariadb-10.0)
[16:42] <tyhicks> I will review the kdbus LSM hook patch set this week
[16:43] <tyhicks> I need to determine the best way to fix an auditing bug in the phone images (I've already sent a patch that will fix the issue in new kernels)
[16:43] <tyhicks> I want to get back to my UCT-to-trello bridge
[16:43] <tyhicks> and I have several embargoed issues
[16:44] <tyhicks> I think that's it for me
[16:44] <tyhicks> sarnold: skipping to you as I don't see jj
[16:45] <sarnold> I'm on community this week, if someone wants to tackle updates for http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/proftpd-dfsg.html I know a few users would appreciate the fixes; I'll also be working on the ppc64-diag "follow-on" package auditing; upstream suggested that we audit git instead, which makes some sense, I hope they can be repackaged for our 14.04.3 release quickly enough.
[16:45] <sarnold> that's it for me, chrisccoulson?
[16:46] <chrisccoulson> After last week, I was hoping to get through some Oxide reviews this week and carry on with https://launchpad.net/oxide/+milestone/branch-1.9
[16:46] <chrisccoulson> But Firefox has something to say about that
[16:47] <tyhicks> :/
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> I've got 1 embargoed update to do, and I also need to do the thunderbird update
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> that's me done
[16:47] <sarnold> would it make sense at some point to revert precise back to a firefox ESR release?
[16:47] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: I asked in the other channel. is there something I/we can do to help with firefox?
[16:48] <chrisccoulson> I'm not sure atm. I'd like to be able to reproduce this crash, but I can't
[16:48] <tyhicks> the 14.04 crash?
[16:48] <chrisccoulson> Yeah
[16:49] <tyhicks> I can try in a VM
[16:49] <chrisccoulson> That's what I'm doing at the moment too
[16:49] <doko> sbeattie, please delay any config changes until the GCC 5 transition is done
[16:49] <doko> it's already ugly enough
[16:49] <sbeattie> doko: okay
[16:50] <tyhicks> chrisccoulson: ok, I'll get my trusty-amd64 vm updated and let you know what happens
[16:50] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[16:50] <tyhicks> sbeattie: I guess that means you should have full focus on aa 2.10 and getting it uploaded to wily this week
[16:51] <tyhicks> sbeattie: if that goes quickly, picking up a MIR would be a good idea
[16:52] <sbeattie> tyhicks: I forgot I had another thing on my plate, finishing up fixing QART issues on arm64
[16:52] <tyhicks> ah, ok
[16:52] <tyhicks> sbeattie: those are seccomp test failures, right?
[16:53] <tyhicks> (due to symbol craziness)
[16:54] <tyhicks> you can tell me later
[16:54] <sbeattie> no, this is the test-kernel-security.py stuff, dealing with and testing for different configs
[16:54] <tyhicks> oh
[16:54] <tyhicks> ok
[16:54] <tyhicks> moving on
[16:54] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:54] <tyhicks> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:54] <tyhicks> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:54] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/boost1.48.html
[16:54] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/jython.html
[16:54] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/dhcpcd5.html
[16:54] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/charybdis.html
[16:54] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/texmacs.html
[16:54] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:54] <tyhicks> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:56] <tyhicks> jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, sarnold, ChrisCoulson (and teward): Thanks!
[16:56] <mdeslaur> thanks tyhicks!
[16:56] <tyhicks> #endmeeting
[16:57] <sbeattie> tyhicks: thanks
[16:58] <sarnold> thanks tyhicks!


[22:56] <ubudog> membership meeting up next right?
[22:56] <dmizer> as far as i know.
[22:57] <ubudog> ok
[22:57] <ubudog> it was not on the fridge calender
[22:57] <ubudog> but on the regional board
[22:57] <dmizer> i noticed.
[22:58] <ozzie_> according to the wiki, membership is in2 minutes
[22:58] <ubudog> yep
[22:59] <ubudog> i might have to go for like 5 minutes
[22:59] <ubudog> be right back
[23:01] <pleia2> going to see if I can round up quorum :)
[23:02] <ozzie_> is duanedesign here?
[23:08] <ubudog> hi
[23:08] <pleia2> still trying, but we might have to reschedule
[23:09] <dmizer> thank you pleia2.
[23:09] <Technoviking> hola
[23:09] <Yasumoto_> Thanks pleia2 :)
[23:09]  * greg-g waves
[23:09]  * dmizer waves
[23:09] <ozzie_> Just give us membership and we'll be happy
[23:09] <dmizer> heh.
[23:09] <fader_> ozzie_: +1 :D
[23:09] <oubiwann> hehe
[23:11] <pleia2> hurrah
[23:11]  * beuno apologizes
[23:12] <Technoviking> I for one #blamepopey
[23:13] <pleia2> :)
[23:13] <ubudog> pleia2: are you the "membership person"?
[23:13] <pleia2> ubudog: I'm a member of the americas membership board, yes :)
[23:14] <ubudog> ok, cool
[23:14] <pleia2> we've got quorum now, will start momentarily
[23:15] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[23:15] <MootBot> Meeting started at 17:15. The chair is pleia2.
[23:15] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[23:15] <greg-g> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the
[23:15] <greg-g> Americas meeting for March 11th. The wiki page for the Review Board is
[23:15] <greg-g> available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas
[23:15] <greg-g> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[23:15] <greg-g> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[23:16] <greg-g> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[23:16] <greg-g> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[23:16] <greg-g> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[23:16] <greg-g> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[23:16] <pleia2> doesn't look like Flare183 is here
[23:16] <pleia2> oubiwann: you here?
[23:16] <oubiwann> yup
[23:17] <pleia2> [TOPIC] oubiwann membership
[23:17] <MootBot> New Topic:  oubiwann membership
[23:17] <oubiwann> here's my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Oubiwann
[23:17] <oubiwann> my name is Duncan McGreggor
[23:17] <oubiwann> long-time open source developer, current employee of Canonical
[23:18] <oubiwann> I currently work with the platform team as a project manager
[23:19] <oubiwann> prior to this, I was a software engineer, putting my Twisted and Python background to use ;-)
[23:19]  * oubiwann waves at asac
[23:20] <pleia2> oubiwann: great work! how long would you say you've been involved with Ubuntu directly?
[23:20] <oubiwann> as a user, since 2005
[23:20] <greg-g> oubiwann: I see you're in Denver (right?) Do you have much interaction with the System76 or Colorado LoCo?
[23:20]  * greg-g requests you ignore his bad grammar
[23:21] <oubiwann> I've been a member of the LoCo, but I've never actually been to a meeting :-/
[23:21] <oubiwann> (I think I joined around the same time I created  my LP account)
[23:21] <greg-g> oubiwann: do they have many meetings? Or do people mostly meet up at other LUG type events?
[23:22] <oubiwann> I used to see emails about release parties and Ubuntu install fests, but I haven't gotten one of those in a whole
[23:22] <oubiwann> *while
[23:22] <oubiwann> they might not be doing them any more
[23:22] <greg-g> yeah, they tend to go in spurts
[23:22] <greg-g> "they" being LoCos :)
[23:22] <oubiwann> hehe
[23:22] <pleia2> [VOTE] oubiwann membership
[23:22] <MootBot> Please vote on:  oubiwann membership.
[23:22] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[23:22] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[23:22] <Technoviking> +1
[23:22] <MootBot> +1 received from Technoviking. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[23:22] <pleia2> your work speaks for itself :)
[23:22] <pleia2> +1
[23:22] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[23:23] <greg-g> +1 # keep rocking it
[23:23] <MootBot> +1 received from greg-g. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[23:23] <ubudog> +1
[23:23] <beuno> +1  (hi oubiwann!)
[23:23] <MootBot> +1 received from ubudog. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[23:23] <MootBot> +1 received from beuno. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
[23:23] <pleia2> [endvote]
[23:23] <MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5
[23:23] <pleia2> (and please only board members vote)
[23:23] <greg-g> please, only Board members should vote
[23:23] <pleia2> congrats and welcome oubiwann!
[23:23] <oubiwann> thanks guys!
[23:23] <greg-g> congrats oubiwann !
[23:23]  * oubiwann waves at beuno ;-)
[23:24] <pleia2> fader_: you here?
[23:24] <fader_> pleia2: Yes I am! :)
[23:24] <ozzie_> good job obiwann
[23:24] <pleia2> [TOPIC] fader membership
[23:24] <MootBot> New Topic:  fader membership
[23:24] <fader_> I'm Ronald McCollam, and my wiki page is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/fader
[23:24] <fader_> I've been a Linux user since about 1995, and been increasingly involved with the community as time goes on.  I've been using and evangelizing Ubuntu for around 5 years now.
[23:24] <ubudog> congrats!
[23:24] <fader_> I am currently a Canonical employee on the QA team and do testing on a range of hardware.  Outside of work, I also do ad-hoc testing, ISO testing, and general support on IRC and a few online and real-world fora.
[23:24] <fader_> I'm trying to develop more programming skills as well in order to make software as well as use it, but it's slow going for my poor old brain :)
[23:27] <pleia2> fader_: I know mythbuntu is on the "todo wishlist" but do you have any idea how you'd like to contribute there?
[23:27] <pleia2> (it's one of my favorite projects too, so I had to ask :))
[23:27] <fader_> pleia2: My plans are a little vague, to be honest.  I'd love to try to help improve its stability and features but that's currently beyond my abilities.  So for the time being it's just testing and bug reporting.
[23:27] <fader_> I use it all the time, so I'm definitely motivated to help :)
[23:28] <pleia2> I'm sure they appreciate that
[23:28] <Daviey> fader_: well feel free to jump in, the water is lovely
[23:29] <greg-g> fader_: you live near Boston, do you know doctormo and the other MA loco people?
[23:29] <beuno> # user support on Craigslist
[23:29] <fader_> Daviey: :D  I'll give it a shot.
[23:29] <beuno> that's a first!
[23:29] <beuno> I didn't know there was such a thing
[23:29] <fader_> greg-g: I met them recently.  Until recently I lived a little too far out to make it to many loco events, but I recently moved and hope to go more frequently.
[23:29] <beuno> fader_, what's that group like?
[23:29] <fader_> I made it to the release party for karmic though and got to meet doctormo :)
[23:30] <greg-g> fader_: good deal :)
[23:30] <fader_> beuno: It's a pretty decent group of people... it's not as high-traffic as the ubuntu forums though, which I think have taken a lot of its traffic in the last couple of years
[23:30] <fader_> (not that that is a bad thing! ;) )
[23:31] <beuno> it's amazing how the ubuntu community has everything covered
[23:31]  * Nafallo mumbles about the power for the forums servers...
[23:31] <fader_> beuno: Indeed... usually I find answers to my questions before I can even ask them anywhere else!
[23:31] <fader_> Nafallo: shh!  Go to sleep, it's past your bedtime!
[23:31] <beuno> Nafallo, about all the power they use?  :)
[23:31] <pleia2> hehe
[23:31] <oubiwann> if it's permissible, I'd like to say that I've recently worked with fader_ closely on a project for Google + Canonical, and he was phenomenal: dedicated and committed; throughly and deeply invested in Ubuntu and its continued quest for quality
[23:32] <pleia2> thanks oubiwann!
[23:32]  * fader_ slips oubiwann $5.
[23:32]  * oubiwann chuckles
[23:32] <pleia2> [VOTE] fader membership
[23:32] <MootBot> Please vote on:  fader membership.
[23:32] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[23:32] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[23:32] <pleia2> +1
[23:32] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[23:32]  * Nafallo is in fact in bed, but thought he'd give fader a big thumbs up for the membership before sleeping :-)
[23:32] <greg-g> +1
[23:32] <Technoviking> +1
[23:32] <MootBot> +1 received from greg-g. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[23:32] <MootBot> +1 received from Technoviking. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[23:32] <beuno> +1
[23:32] <MootBot> +1 received from beuno. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[23:32] <pleia2> [endvote]
[23:32] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[23:32] <pleia2> congrats and welcome, fader_! :)
[23:32] <fader_> \o/
[23:32] <greg-g> congrats fader_ !
[23:33] <fader_> Thanks all!
[23:33] <oubiwann> fader_: welcome!
[23:33] <ubudog> congrats fader!
[23:33] <pleia2> [TOPIC] Yasumoto membership
[23:33] <MootBot> New Topic:  Yasumoto membership
[23:33] <Yasumoto_> Hello guys, I'm Joe Smith, a member of the Ubuntu California team. I've been active in planning and running events since 2007, and have had a blast :) At SCaLE8x in February, I was convinced that it's alright to spend some of my "Open Source Time" on applying for membership rather than on LoCo stuff. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Yasumoto
[23:35] <Yasumoto_> I love the Ubuntu community, and have spent time working on Bug Triage for various compnonents, IRC and Forum help, and a lot of LoCo stuff, which I've focused on to do something a little different from my schoolwork.
[23:36] <greg-g> Yasumoto_: how are loco events going for CA right now?
[23:37] <Yasumoto_> We just exhibited at the SoCal Linux Expo on February19th-21st, where we held the first Ubucon of the year :)
[23:37] <rww> I've worked with Yasumoto for about a year as part of the California LoCo team. He's absolutely invaluable for our event planning. His attitude is awesome, he's a huge asset to our team, and I'm happy he finally got around to applying, because he totally deserves membership :)
[23:37] <pleia2> thanks rww!
[23:37] <beuno> Yasumoto_, what drew you to the Ubuntu community?
[23:38] <Yasumoto_> We're also planning our events for the Global Jam, being a big state, we need to coordinate a few events scattered throughout
[23:38] <greg-g> Yasumoto_: aweome
[23:38] <Yasumoto_> beuno: How inclusive it is. I love being able to talk to so many people; to work together to make th world better :)
[23:39] <pleia2> [VOTE] Yasumoto membership
[23:39] <MootBot> Please vote on:  Yasumoto membership.
[23:39] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[23:39] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[23:39] <pleia2> +1
[23:39] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[23:39] <Technoviking> +1
[23:39] <MootBot> +1 received from Technoviking. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[23:39] <beuno> +1
[23:39] <MootBot> +1 received from beuno. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[23:39] <greg-g> +1
[23:39] <MootBot> +1 received from greg-g. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[23:40] <pleia2> [endvote]
[23:40] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[23:40] <ubudog> congrats!
[23:40] <pleia2> Yasumoto_: looking forward to seeing you keep making the US-CA loco rock \o/
[23:40] <fader_> Yasumoto_: Congrats!
[23:40] <Yasumoto_> Thanks everyone! :)
[23:40] <greg-g> congrats Yasumoto_ !
[23:40] <rww> Yasumoto_: congrats :)
[23:40]  * oubiwann high-fives Yasumoto_
[23:40] <pleia2> dmizer: you here?
[23:40] <dmizer> i am.
[23:41] <pleia2> [TOPIC] dmizer membership
[23:41] <MootBot> New Topic:  dmizer membership
[23:41] <dmizer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/dmizer
[23:41] <dmizer> Hello all! I've been using Ubuntu since Hoary (Ubuntu has come SO far). I have been a member of the Ubuntuforum community since March of 2006. I have been a moderator of the Ubuntuforum staff since July of 2008.
[23:41] <dmizer> Most of my contribution effort is focused on the forum, but I would like to start participating in the Japan loco now that my Japanese ability is good enough to allow me to participate. I would also like to expand my presence professionally upon finishing my LPIC1 and LPIC2 exams.
[23:43] <beuno> dmizer, you have overwhelming support!
[23:43] <dmizer> :)
[23:43] <Technoviking> dmizer: how big is the Japan loco?
[23:43] <beuno> I'm impressed, you've done a lot of hard work
[23:43] <dmizer> it's huge in Tokyo, but that's pretty far for me.
[23:43] <dmizer> they also have regular mettings on IRC
[23:43] <greg-g> cool
[23:44]  * Technoviking is waiting for UDS-Tokyo:)
[23:44] <dmizer> ha!
[23:44] <beuno> dmizer, what do you think Ubuntu lacks the most today?
[23:44] <beuno> Technoviking, that makes 2 of us!
[23:45] <dmizer> bueno: as unfortunate as it is, i think there is work to be done with regard to hardware support, particularly in areas like wireless and printer support.
[23:46] <ozzie_> good answer
[23:46] <pleia2> I assume this comes from still seeing a lot of hardware support questions on the forums?
[23:46] <dmizer> indeed it does. as well as personal support on real machines.
[23:46]  * pleia2 nods
[23:46] <pleia2> [VOTE] dmizer membership
[23:46] <MootBot> Please vote on:  dmizer membership.
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[23:46] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[23:46] <greg-g> +1
[23:46] <MootBot> +1 received from greg-g. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[23:46] <pleia2> +1
[23:46] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[23:47] <ibuclaw> go dmizer :)
[23:47] <beuno> +1   I admire all the work you've done!
[23:47] <MootBot> +1 received from beuno. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[23:47] <Iowan> Part of the dmizer yea-team... Forums are certainly a better place with his How-To's and personal-touch guidance (posts)! Even his signature is packed with useful information!
[23:47] <boredandblogging> +1
[23:47] <MootBot> +1 received from boredandblogging. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[23:47] <pleia2> [endvote]
[23:47] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[23:47] <ubudog> congrats!
[23:47] <dmizer> thank you both Iowan and ibuclaw
[23:47] <pleia2> congrats and welcome dmizer! :)
[23:47] <persia> dmizer: Just as a side note, we don't mind English in our meetings (if you don't mind Japanese), if you're on IRC on Tuesday nights.
[23:47] <Technoviking> dmizer has my full support, but I should abstain since I'm on the forums also
[23:48] <greg-g> congrats dmizer !
[23:48] <Iowan> Yea!
[23:48] <dmizer> thanks for the heads up persia!
[23:48] <pleia2> [TOPIC] ubudog membership
[23:48] <MootBot> New Topic:  ubudog membership
[23:48] <oubiwann> dmizer: horray!
[23:48] <fader_> dmizer: Congratulations!
[23:48] <ibuclaw> congrats dmizer
[23:48] <dmizer> \o/
[23:49] <Technoviking> congrat dmizer you rock
[23:49] <ubudog> hello, I am Michael.  I currently live in North Carolina and have been using Ubuntu for three and a half years now.  Wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubudog
[23:49] <pleia2> ubudog: do you have a link to your forum profile?
[23:49] <ubudog> just a minute....
[23:50] <ubudog> here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=739457
[23:50] <ubudog> I am deeply involved with the forums and enjoy helping as many people as possible
[23:50] <ubudog> I would like to help make Ubuntu more well known and used around the world, it has great potential.
[23:51] <pleia2> ubudog: there is a really great loco team in north carolina, involved with them at all?
[23:51] <beuno> ubudog, you say you developed a few apps?
[23:51] <beuno> I can't seem to find any of them
[23:51] <ubudog> Thinking about it, have visited their site, I will join in in the next meeting
[23:51] <ubudog> Yes, I have developed a few apps (still in progress) and they are on launchpad
[23:52] <beuno> ubudog, URLs?
[23:52] <ubudog> this is the only one I have on launchpad:https://launchpad.net/flashcards
[23:52] <ubudog> Still working on it]
[23:52] <ubudog> using Python
[23:53] <ubudog> just started to use launchpad for my programs... it is nice
[23:53] <beuno> ubudog, so in what ways have you contributed to Ubuntu?
[23:53] <greg-g> I don't see any branches, am I missing something?
[23:54] <ubudog> yes, sorry,  I have just recently started using launchpad
[23:54] <greg-g> gotcha
[23:54] <ubudog> flashcards1.0 is on there, but no download files yet
[23:55] <ubudog> actually should have it finished by tomorrow :)
[23:55] <pleia2> ubudog: I think your forum involvement is great, but I'd really like to see some more progress in getting involved with the loco and your application development for ubuntu
[23:56] <beuno> ubudog, support from existing members of the community is also important
[23:56] <ubudog> Some of them might be here - I have a lot of friends on ubuntuforums
[23:56] <pleia2> one of your future goals is reaching more people with Ubuntu, and that's what locos are all about :)
[23:57] <ubudog> yes, I will go to the next meeting for the North Carolina Team
[23:58] <ubudog> see if I can join in...
[23:58] <greg-g> They are pretty welcoming :)
[23:59] <Technoviking> ubudog: You have a good start, but I would like to see more
[23:59] <ubudog> yeah, I am on their channel now
[23:59] <greg-g> ubudog: what Technoviking said, a bit more involvement would be good in the future. But I like your enthusiasm and hope to see you up for membership again


[00:35] <brad___> Hi All
[00:35] <brad___> Looking for some help with some issues I'm having with U1 / Music Store
[00:36] <joshuahoover> brad___: what seems to be the problem?
[00:36] <brad___> I've purchased a couple of albums, but they aren't showing up in the cloud
[00:36] <brad___> it's been a couple of days but they still aren't there
[00:37] <joshuahoover> brad___: hmmm...so they don't show up in the web ui?
[00:37] <duanedesign> hello brad___
[00:37] <brad___> In addition, I am getting the following error message when I click the "My Downloads" when in RhythymBox:
[00:37] <duanedesign> and hello joshuahoover  :)
[00:38] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: hello :)
[00:38] <brad___> "There was a (temporary) problem getting your list of purchased songs. Please wait a short time and try again, or return to the music store."
[00:38] <joshuahoover> brad___: have you been getting this for a while now?
[00:38] <brad___> I've downloaded two full albums, so I know U1 was working...
[00:38] <joshuahoover> brad___: can you tell me the names of the artists and albums you purchased? i'll have someone check on these specifically
[00:39] <brad___> "James Brown & The Famous Flames / The James Brown Band - James Brown Live At The Apollo, 1962".
[00:39] <brad___> Order Number : 3184466
[00:39] <brad___> "Frank Sinatra - 40 Enduring Classics"
[00:39] <brad___> Order Number : 3192615
[00:39] <brad___> Those are the exact strings displayed in the  U1 Music store
[00:40] <brad___> The order number is the 7digital order number... In case you guys need it
[00:40] <joshuahoover> brad___: ok, i'll have someone check on these (i don't have permission to do so but i'll make sure someone does asap, likely tomorrow as most are done for the day)
[00:40] <brad___> ok.. thank you.. much appreciated
[00:41] <brad___> there is a thread in the U1 forum for this issue.  I'll keep an eye on the thread for updats
[00:42] <joshuahoover> brad___: have you attempted to contact 7digital?
[00:43] <brad___> I would if I knew how to contact them
[00:44] <joshuahoover> brad___: ah, ok, if you click on help in the music store (top right link) and then click on the "Problems with receiving purchased songs" under the "Troubleshooting" section
[00:44] <brad___> Unfortunately, the receipt I have from 7digital doesn't provide an email address or phone number
[00:44] <joshuahoover> brad___: which thread on the forums?
[00:44] <brad___> thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476464
[00:46] <duanedesign> brad___: james brown and sinatra, nice choices :)
[00:47] <brad___> yes... trying to take care of the classics  ;)
[00:47] <joshuahoover> brad___: i'm going to see if we can modify that receipt so that it's clear where you can get information on help and contact info
[00:48] <joshuahoover> brad___: hmmm...and you haven't heard back from alecu i take it? i'll get with him first thing tomorrow and make sure we get this straightened out for you
[00:50] <brad___> that would be very helpfull, as I would have definitely contacted them for this issue as I know how the interaction between U1 and 7digital works.
[00:50] <brad___> that would be great
[00:51] <brad___> I appreciate everything you guys are doing...
[00:51] <joshuahoover> brad___: thank you for your patience...we'll get this taken care of
[01:14] <josephnexus> does anyone know if the nokia n900 is supported on ubuntu 1
[01:29] <duanedesign> hello joshuahoover
[01:29] <duanedesign> oops
[01:29] <duanedesign> josephnexus:
[01:30] <duanedesign> ping fail
[01:30] <josephnexus> hi there
[01:30] <josephnexus> i have been called a lot of things
[01:30] <duanedesign> hi there josephnexus
[01:30] <josephnexus> but joshuahoover is a fist
[01:30] <duanedesign> lol
[01:30] <josephnexus> err
[01:30] <josephnexus> first
[01:30] <josephnexus> :-P
[01:30] <josephnexus> what's up?
[01:31] <duanedesign> josephnexus: have you been to https://one.ubuntu.com/phones/
[01:31] <josephnexus> yes
[01:31] <josephnexus> but I don't see a list of phones that are known to work
[01:32] <duanedesign> josephnexus: hmmm.
[01:32] <josephnexus> or am I missing something?
[01:34] <duanedesign> josephnexus: you might need to sign in first
[01:38] <duanedesign> josephnexus: there is a lot of models supported I would be *very* suprised if the Nokia N900 was not one of them
[01:38] <josephnexus> but one never knows for sure
[01:38] <josephnexus> let me sign up
[01:43] <josephnexus> duanedesign: my phone isnt listed
[01:43] <josephnexus> that's kind of sad
[01:44] <Fab_> Good Morning!
[01:44] <Fab_> Anyone out there?
[01:51] <josephnexus> I'm here
[02:36] <kermiac> is there a master bug report for "Got empty result for devices list." I'm seeing a few of these reports from people upgrading from Karmic to Lucid. If there isn't a master report I can update the description of bug 576263 to include the work-around & set it as the master
[03:03] <justinowen> Need some help. I right clicked on several folders in my home dir, selected sync on ubuntuone, then I let it work for several (4) days. Folders show up in the account but the files are greyed and show as updating. I am using lucid, and the os is updated.
[04:07] <Crazytales> http://ubuntuone.com/p/3Lt/ <--does this 404 for anyone?
[04:30] <justinowen> Need some help. I right clicked on several folders in my home dir, selected sync on ubuntuone, then I let it work for several (4) days. Folders show up in the account but the files are greyed and show as updating. I am using lucid, and the os is updated.
[06:27] <kermiac> duanedesign: rye: joshuahoover: should I add bug 576263 to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs? I've seen at least 3 different reports now & each report has a few "affects me too"s
[07:26] <duanedesign> kermiac: hello
[07:27] <kermiac> hey duanedesign :)
[07:27] <duanedesign> kermiac: i have noticed a few on the forums and launchpad questions with that error
[07:29] <kermiac> duanedesign: so it should be added to the bugs page, not the karmic/bugs page - right?
[07:30] <duanedesign> kermiac: that would be correct.
[07:30] <kermiac> ok :) I'll add it, thanks
[07:30] <duanedesign> I need to fix vbox on my system so I can attempt to reproduce it.
[07:31] <kermiac> what happened to vbox?
[07:33] <duanedesign> vbox its been freezing up on me
[07:34] <kermiac> not good - i haven't installed it on my lucid machine yet. I've been playing with vmware lately & want to try openvz too
[07:40] <duanedesign> kermiac: yes i need to install somethhing else
[07:43] <kermiac> ok 576263 added to the "bugs" page
[08:50] <dobey> duanedesign, kermiac: that bug is fixed in a branch i just proposed
[08:51] <kermiac> dobey: awesome :)
[08:52] <kermiac> dobey: is there a better bug report i should use as "master" instead of 576263?
[08:53] <dobey> i just --fixes that one
[08:53] <dobey> so i guess not :)
[08:53] <kermiac> ok, thanks dobey :)
[08:54] <dobey> sure, was quick to fix
[09:02] <larsemil> ANy news on when the contacts sync will be up and running again?
[09:07] <duanedesign> larsemil: they are working to get that up this week as i understand it
[09:08] <larsemil> that i was told last week as well. :)
[09:08] <larsemil> but cool
[09:51] <diverse_izzue> hi all, i just recently used the u1ms for the first time. i have mt bought tracks still in the .ubuntuone folder. banshee touches those files after playing to write the playcount to the file. that causes the last modified date of the file to change, after which u1 uploads it back to the server...
[09:52] <duanedesign> hello diverse_izzue
[09:52] <diverse_izzue> hi duanedesign
[09:54] <diverse_izzue> duanedesign, you see my issue?
[09:57] <duanedesign> yes i was looking at bug reports to see if it was reported or not
[09:58] <diverse_izzue> duanedesign, i wouldn't be surprised if no one before me ran into that corner case, i have a talent for that :-)
[09:59] <duanedesign> diverse_izzue: that is good
[09:59] <duanedesign> :)
[09:59] <diverse_izzue> well
[10:00] <duanedesign> not for you huh
[10:00] <duanedesign> :P
[10:00] <diverse_izzue> right
[10:00] <diverse_izzue> whenever i touch a piece of software i discover a bug right away. and then the next one :-/
[10:01] <diverse_izzue> anyway, the options are: 1. don't enable writeback in the music player (that's my current workaround) 2. make ~/.ubuntuone/Purchased from ... a download-only folder 3. transfer the music out of that folder after download
[10:13] <dobey> aquarius: ^^
[10:16] <duanedesign> is  banshee-community-extensions the correct package to file banshee music store bugs against?
[10:17] <diverse_izzue> duanedesign, the issue is not in that sense specific to banshee, i could have bought them using rhythmbox. it's about the music player (in this case indeed banshee) writing info back to the files after each playback.
[10:19] <duanedesign> diverse_izzue: i have some tunes i bought yesterday. let me check
[10:19] <diverse_izzue> duanedesign, banshee does probably not writeback by default, there's a setting for that in the preferences dialog
[10:23] <dobey> or rather, it's a bug against u1ms
[10:48] <diverse_izzue> duanedesign, any luck reproducing?
[11:05] <diverse_izzue> dobey, so if i want to report that as a bug, what launchpad component do i choose?
[11:05] <duanedesign> had to install some bits
[11:07] <dobey> diverse_izzue: just report against ubuntuone
[11:12] <diverse_izzue> dobey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-infrastructure/+bug/579228, i was forced to select a component, so i chose one :-)
[11:13] <duanedesign> diverse_izzue: appears you are correct
[11:16] <diverse_izzue> duanedesign, oki, heading out, thanks.
[11:17] <duanedesign> diverse_izzue: sure thing i will confirm the bug
[11:17] <duanedesign> thanks for reporting it
[11:48] <mround> honk :)
[11:48] <mround> Presume this is the place for music store issues ?
[12:00] <mround> I have 2 tracks that will not download through the banshee/rhythmbox plugin. Those tracks come from an album that doesn't play previews properly, even through the normal 7digital web store, so I assume there is a problem with the album.
[12:01] <mround> Other tracks that I've purchased have all downloaded properly. I've asked from support from 7digital, and they've passed the buck and said it's an Ubuntu issue.
[12:01] <mround> I asked for a refund on these 2 tracks, and it's gone silent from them. Any ideas where to go from here ?
[12:03] <duanedesign> hello mround
[12:03] <kermiac> hi mround. the guys that can help your are alecu & probably aquarius
[12:03] <mround> The 2 tracks are stuck alternating between "Queued" and "There was a problem completing the download. Try downloading again."
[12:03] <mround> hi
[12:04] <mround> OK. I see they're not online right now. Any idea when they usually show up ?
[12:04] <kermiac> they're at UDS right now so i would suggest you file a bug & tell us the bug #
[12:05] <kermiac> and someone will ping them regarding the issue
[12:06] <kermiac> mround: when you contacted 7digital, did you get a ticket #?
[12:06] <mround> OK. I tried added a note to #551755 a few days back, should I add an update to that bug (seems to be the general catch-all bug for download issues), or open a new one ?
[12:07] <mround> Yeah, I got 2 ticket numbers from 7digital. Had to open 2, as they tell you to reply through their website, which I can't sign into as u1 accounts don't work on their regular web store.
[12:08] <kermiac> I suggest creating a new one for your specific case. then one of the devs can look into your specific issue
[12:08] <mround> OK. Will do.
[12:08] <kermiac> mround: please add the 7digital ticket #'s to your report
[12:08] <mround> Then hop back on here and report the bug# ?
[12:09] <kermiac> mround: yes please. that way someone can get the right people to look into it for you
[12:09] <mround> OK, I'll do that now. Thanks for your help!
[12:09] <kermiac> no problem, sorry that not many of the devs are around at the moment - most of them are in Brussells at the UDS
[12:21]  * duanedesign missed the Ubuntuone ZoHo session at UDS :(
[12:26] <mround> https://bugs.launchpad.net/rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store/+bug/579251
[12:26] <mround> Just filed as you suggested.
[12:27] <duanedesign> mround: ok will pass that on to the appropriatte people when they get in
[12:27] <kermiac> ok, thanks mround. Someone here will pass it on for you'
[12:28] <kermiac> haha, thanks duanedesign :)
[12:29] <duanedesign> mround: do you see anything at https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ in the Purchased Music Folder
[12:31] <mround> Nope. I've got other tracks there that downloaded fine, but not those 2 problematic ones.
[12:32] <mround> In the bug report, I mention that I think something's b0rked with that whole album as none of the previews work on it either. Mentioned it to 7dig, but no response.
[12:39] <duanedesign> ok thank you
[12:41] <kermiac> ok, I'm off to watch tv for a while before bed. g'night all :)
[12:41] <duanedesign> bye kermiac
[13:34] <NickL> Honk! I have a support request - I've had some syncing issues for the past few weeks. I bought an album through rhythm box and it downloaded the files to my one.ubuntu.com account, but it's not syncing to my computer. Can anyone help?
[13:34] <rye> NickL, hi
[13:34] <NickL> hi rye. I think I spoke to you last time.
[13:34] <NickL> seems the issue is still there.
[13:35] <rye> NickL, could you please run http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/ubuntuone-scripts/ubuntuone-debug-collect.sh and it will pastebin the report so that I don't ask you to do all the bits manually?
[13:35] <rye> NickL, i have to admit that today the file sync is awesomely fast even for such picky user as myself
[13:38] <rye> NickL, ?
[13:39] <NickL> rye: I've saved the .sh file. what's the CLI command to run it?
[13:39] <rye> NickL, just "bash ubuntuone-debug-collect.sh"
[13:40] <rye> NickL, if you give it the permission to pastebin the report then it will print out the URL of the paste - could you please paste the URL here
[13:41] <NickL> rye:  http://pastebin.com/H7vgxqTs
[13:43] <rye> NickL, so, music is online but not locally, right? - could you please pastebin the output of u1sdtool --info="$HOME/.ubuntuone/Purchased from Ubuntu One" ?
[13:44] <rye> NickL, possibly bug #571548
[13:44] <rye> w
[13:44] <rye> grrr
[13:48] <rye> NickL, let's do this - create a file in ubuntuone folder then restart syncdaemon - touch ~/.ubuntuone/Purcharsed\ from\ Ubuntu\ One/placeholder; u1sdtool --quit; u1sdtool --connect
[13:50] <rye> NickL, this will reset the hash of the folder and restart the syncdaemon. After this the files should start to download
[13:52] <NickL> rye: i've put a new file in ubuntuone folder, how do I restart the syncdaemon?
[13:53] <rye> NickL, you can actually copy and paste the command I gave you -  touch ~/.ubuntuone/Purcharsed\ from\ Ubuntu\ One/placeholder; u1sdtool --quit; u1sdtool --connect
[13:55] <NickL> it says no such file or directory.
[13:55] <NickL> rye:^
[13:55] <rye> grrr
[13:55] <rye> NickL, sorry - touch ~/.ubuntuone/Purchased\ from\ Ubuntu\ One/placeholder; u1sdtool --quit; u1sdtool --connect
[13:57] <NickL> rye: I think that worked. It says ubuntuone-syncdaemon stopped.
[13:58] <rye> NickL, ok, i am now moving to another location (Ubuntu One session at UDS) so I will lose the connection briefly. Could you please run u1sdtool --status and pastebin the output?
[13:59] <NickL> rye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/432225/
[14:13] <duanedesign> NickL: looks like it is doing something
[14:14] <duanedesign> we dont want queues: IDLE before we see your music
[14:14] <NickL> duanedesign: it still has the same status, so hopefully something is working
[14:14]  * duanedesign crosses fingers
[14:18] <rye> NickL, are you still here - what does u1sdtool --waiting-content shows ?
[14:19] <rye> hm, when you move from one location at dolce hotel to another you are roaming between various access points but the routing is not updated :-/
[14:19] <NickL> Hi rye, I think it's working http://paste.ubuntu.com/432229/
[14:20] <rye> NickL, what about u1sdtool --waiting-content ?
[14:47] <duanedesign> alecu: there was a user in earlier that had a music store issue. bug 579251
[14:48] <duanedesign> https://bugs.launchpad.net/rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store/+bug/579251
[14:48] <duanedesign> ubottu: /5
[14:57] <alecu> duanedesign, thanks, I'm looking at that bug now.
[15:20] <NickL> rye, duanedesign, status is still the same on my sync. It's been over an hour, is that normal?
[15:46] <peturi> Hi. I have irssi installed on two machines both running Ubuntu 10.04, i used ubuntuone to sync ~/.irssi/config on both of them. both computers now show that the file is synched but in reality the file did not sync to the other computer (she still has the old version). Should i not get a warning icon or something on my taskbar when files are not getting synced cuz they differ?
[15:47] <peturi> In other words, ~/.irssi/config excisted on both computer (different veresions of the file) before i choose to sync it.
[15:47] <beuno> peturi, hi
[15:47] <peturi> hello beuno
[15:47] <beuno> verterok, facundobatista, either of you around to help peturi
[15:49] <peturi> https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ shows the correct version of the file.
[15:50] <facundobatista> peturi, can you please run "u1sdtool --status" on the machine that is not updated?
[15:50] <peturi> I found config.u1conflict inside ~/.irssi/
[15:51] <peturi> But what bothers me.. is that me, the user, was not informed of this.
[15:57] <peturi> facundobatista: Sorry, i had deleted the file before you asked me to run that command
[15:58] <peturi> where can i see list of all conflicts in a single place? so i won't have to regulary browse thro the filesystem and check every file im sharing?
[15:58] <facundobatista> peturi, no central place
[15:59] <facundobatista> peturi, would you want a notification when get a conflict?
[15:59] <facundobatista> peturi, don't know if that was discussed, could you please open a bug if yes?
[15:59] <peturi> Interesting
[16:00] <peturi> Yes i'll open a bug
[16:02] <peturi> Would also be nice to have easy access to information like when computer x was last time fully synced and so on.
[16:03] <peturi> I remember a notification applet on ubuntu 9.10.. was it removed with 10.04 ?
[16:06] <XuMuK> hi there
[16:07] <XuMuK> is theresome gui tool to manage ubuntuone?
[16:07] <rotten777> not that I know iof
[16:07] <rotten777> i'm sure one is coming
[16:07] <rotten777> the web based is all i know of
[16:08] <peturi> facundobatista: There's a one year old bug on this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/375005
[16:09] <XuMuK> and does know anybody how can I add device on the cloud again? I accidently deleted mine and now it appears as free and I have 50 Gb subscription...
[16:10] <XuMuK> how to restart it with default configs?
[16:11] <facundobatista> peturi, awesome! mark it as "me too", to increase its importance
[16:36] <josephnexus> hello everyone
[16:36] <josephnexus> i set up Ubuntu One last night
[16:36] <josephnexus> just the free account
[16:36] <josephnexus> and added a folder to be shared
[16:36] <josephnexus> but nothing has synced
[16:36] <josephnexus> i added the folder 8 hrs or so ago
[16:36] <josephnexus> any ideas?
[16:40] <rotten777> josephnexus, open the terminal, run u1sdtool -s
[16:41] <josephnexus> State: QUEUE_MANAGER
[16:41] <josephnexus>     connection: With User With Network
[16:41] <josephnexus>     description: processing queues
[16:41] <josephnexus>     is_connected: True
[16:41] <josephnexus>     is_error: False
[16:41] <josephnexus>     is_online: True
[16:41] <josephnexus>     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH
[16:43] <josephnexus> and when I run a u1sdtool --list-folders, my one folder I have added to ubuntu one shows up
[16:44] <facundobatista> josephnexus, what about "u1sdtool --waiting-meta" and "u1sdtool --waiting-content"?
[16:45] <josephnexus> i whole lot of ListDir stuff followed by Query
[16:45] <josephnexus> a bunch of time
[16:45] <josephnexus> and for waiting-content
[16:45] <josephnexus> a bunch of stuff like
[16:45] <josephnexus> operation='Upload' node_id='531afef7-85e2-468b-b784-6b0c981e298b' share_id='18a5870a-f2c4-4b89-9b33-369e6d36a4e2' path='/home/joseph/NetBeansProjects/elgg/mod/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/inlinepopups/skins/clearlooks2/img/button.gif'
[16:46] <josephnexus> i'm testing this with a netbeans projects (as you can tell)
[16:46] <josephnexus> :-P
[16:47] <beuno> josephnexus, I'm guessing it has a lot of files?
[16:47] <josephnexus> yes
[16:47] <josephnexus> a few thousand
[16:48] <rotten777> josephnexus, run u1sdtool -q
[16:48] <beuno> no
[16:48] <rotten777> josephnexus, then run u1sdtool -c
[16:48] <beuno> don't
[16:48] <josephnexus> that'll restart the service
[16:48] <beuno> it's working through the queue
[16:48]  * josephnexus thinks that isn't what he should do
[16:48] <josephnexus> for 8 hrs?
[16:48] <rotten777> yes it'll say it's working through the queue
[16:48] <rotten777> but it's hung obviously
[16:48] <beuno> so, if the servers are slow
[16:49] <beuno> say, 10 seconds per file
[16:49] <beuno> and you have 8000 files
[16:49] <rotten777> well do what you want but that quit and reconnect has fixed it many many times for my 3 workstations
[16:49] <josephnexus> right now I see 0 files available on the server
[16:49] <beuno> that'll be 22 hours
[16:49] <beuno> ok, you should see files
[16:49] <beuno> facundobatista, ping again?  :)
[16:50] <josephnexus> if I shut my machine down nightly, will it need to reprocess the queue?
[16:50] <beuno> it should resume where it left off
[16:51] <facundobatista> josephnexus, beuno, you will not see files in the server until they have content
[16:51] <facundobatista> and don't have content until it consumed the waiting meta
[16:52] <facundobatista> josephnexus, if you do "u1sdtool --waiting-meta | wc" , what does it return?
[16:52] <rotten777> how much data is it?
[16:52] <beuno> facundobatista, oh?  we're showing files as they are uploading on the web ui now, aren't we?
[16:52] <josephnexus> 10959   41036 1846732
[16:52] <josephnexus> is what that command returns
[16:52] <facundobatista> josephnexus, "u1sdtool --waiting-meta | head -n 5" would be also useful
[16:52] <facundobatista> josephnexus, ok, you have 11 thousand operations! :|
[16:53] <facundobatista> beuno, no if they don't have content
[16:53] <josephnexus> Original exception was:
[16:53] <josephnexus> joseph@joseph-desktop:~$ u1sdtool --waiting-meta | head -n 5
[16:53] <josephnexus>  MakeFile(share_id=18a5870a-f2c4-4b89-9b33-369e6d36a4e2, parent_id=00b37fb5-0ca0-474d-bc6b-22c4225d3496, name=manage_side_pictures.php.svn-base, marker=bc6e947e-9f3d-4ec5-98ab-56ce19f1ba36)
[16:53] <josephnexus>  MakeFile(share_id=18a5870a-f2c4-4b89-9b33-369e6d36a4e2, parent_id=00b37fb5-0ca0-474d-bc6b-22c4225d3496, name=delete_user.php.svn-base, marker=bbe5dab6-7b33-4400-9e67-8f00c896cd79)
[16:53] <josephnexus>  MakeFile(share_id=18a5870a-f2c4-4b89-9b33-369e6d36a4e2, parent_id=00b37fb5-0ca0-474d-bc6b-22c4225d3496, name=manage_surcharge.php.svn-base, marker=7a882b5f-02dd-44e2-b590-d72458d82414)
[16:53] <josephnexus>  MakeFile(share_id=18a5870a-f2c4-4b89-9b33-369e6d36a4e2, parent_id=0eaf3142-8c70-488f-9d21-ced3e064f5d1, name=2.jpg.svn-base, marker=a0e6893b-33ec-4583-95f4-992a98c67eb7)
[16:53] <josephnexus>  MakeFile(share_id=18a5870a-f2c4-4b89-9b33-369e6d36a4e2, parent_id=0eaf3142-8c70-488f-9d21-ced3e064f5d1, name=1.jpg.svn-base, marker=5d6a2542-d830-4e56-98b0-9748bc34732e)
[16:53] <josephnexus> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:53] <josephnexus>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/internet/gtk2reactor.py", line 249, in run
[16:53] <josephnexus>     self.__run()
[16:53] <josephnexus>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/tools.py", line 99, in parse_reply
[16:53] <josephnexus>     return reply_handler(args_list[0])
[16:53] <josephnexus>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 280, in callback
[16:53] <josephnexus>     self._startRunCallbacks(result)
[16:53] <josephnexus>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 354, in _startRunCallbacks
[16:53] <josephnexus>     self._runCallbacks()
[16:53] <josephnexus> --- <exception caught here> ---
[16:54] <josephnexus>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 371, in _runCallbacks
[16:54] <josephnexus>     self.result = callback(self.result, *args, **kw)
[16:54] <josephnexus>   File "/usr/bin/u1sdtool", line 166, in <lambda>
[16:54] <josephnexus>     d.addCallback(lambda r: show_waiting_metadata(r, out))
[16:54] <josephnexus>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/tools.py", line 832, in show_waiting_metadata
[16:54] <josephnexus>     out.write(" %s\n" % value)
[16:54] <josephnexus>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/codecs.py", line 352, in write
[16:54] <josephnexus>     self.stream.write(data)
[16:54] <josephnexus> exceptions.IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
[16:54] <josephnexus> close failed in file object destructor:
[16:54] <josephnexus> Error in sys.excepthook:
[16:54] <josephnexus> sry for the flood
[16:54] <josephnexus> don't hate me
[16:54] <facundobatista> josephnexus, you should use a pastebin instead of pasting here a zillion miles
[16:54] <beuno> facundobatista, does them having content mean they're uploaded? or is that a different stage?
[16:54] <josephnexus> :-(
[16:54] <josephnexus> my apologies
[16:54] <facundobatista> josephnexus, don't worry about that Traceback, is only when showing the files
[16:54] <facundobatista> beuno, first you create the file, then you put content in it
[16:55] <facundobatista> josephnexus, could you please run again "u1sdtool --waiting-meta | wc" ?
[16:55] <beuno> facundobatista, creating the file shows it in the new web ui
[16:55] <beuno> have you not seen that?
[16:55] <facundobatista> beuno, no
[16:55] <beuno> facundobatista, try it
[16:56] <josephnexus>  10872   40652 1829375
[16:56] <facundobatista> beuno, I mean, I didn't see it, it's not I'm saying no to you
[16:56] <facundobatista> josephnexus, so, the queue is going down
[16:56] <facundobatista> josephnexus, it's working
[16:56] <beuno> facundobatista, I know, I'm saying you should try it so you see how it works  :)
[16:56] <josephnexus> so if I shut down my machine each night, does it have to reprocess the queue
[16:56] <facundobatista> josephnexus, it lowered by 80 in the minute we've been talking
[16:56] <josephnexus> ?
[16:57] <facundobatista> josephnexus, no, but there's an overhead after turning it again
[16:57] <josephnexus> also, any plans on supporting the n900
[16:57] <facundobatista> josephnexus, after turning it again on, I mean
[16:57] <josephnexus> kinda sad to get a high end phone and not have support when lower end phones have support
[16:58] <josephnexus> lower end from the same manufacturer
[16:59] <bonez2047> what about pastebin? sheesh
[17:00] <facundobatista> josephnexus, you're talking about supporting the phone to synchronize contacts? or for file synchronization?
[17:00] <josephnexus> contacts starting out
[17:00] <josephnexus> file syncing would also be nice (being able to subscribe to a folder)
[17:01] <facundobatista> josephnexus, beuno is your man for contacts
[17:01] <beuno> josephnexus, so the N900 is half-supported
[17:01] <beuno> we use standard syncml
[17:01] <josephnexus> ok
[17:01] <beuno> and there's a syncml client for the n900
[17:01] <beuno> that said, it seems to be a bit flaky, so it works for some people and not for others
[17:01] <josephnexus> is official support planned sometime soon?
[17:01] <josephnexus> my company has a fleet of these things
[17:02] <josephnexus> and we're wanting to get an ubuntu one account to act as a contacts server
[17:03] <beuno> josephnexus, the clients are all open source, and development is either done by Funambol or the community. We don't have any plans to develop clients ourselves. That said, a fleet of new customers may be of enough interest to find a contractor. Do you want to contact our commercial guy?
[17:03] <beuno> if anyone can make it happen, he can
[17:04] <duanedesign> wb josephnexus
[17:04] <bonez2047> anyone? what's the capacity of UbuntuOne?
[17:04] <bonez2047> per user?
[17:04] <beuno> josephnexus<EMAIL_ADDRESS>would be it
[17:05] <beuno> bonez2047, 2gb for the free account, 50 for the paid
[17:05] <bonez2047> how much is the paid account, what cost?
[17:05] <beuno> 10usd/month I think
[17:07] <josephnexus> so you guys don't develop the client?
[17:07] <josephnexus> only the server?
[17:09] <beuno> josephnexus, integration for the server
[17:09] <beuno> the actual server is Funambol
[17:09] <josephnexus> yes, but for the files and such
[17:09] <beuno> oh, for that yes
[17:09] <josephnexus> funambol is just the contacts and such yes?
[17:10] <beuno> both client and server
[17:10] <beuno> correct
[17:10] <josephnexus> is there any plan for supporting email syncing?
[17:10] <josephnexus> and calendar ans cuh
[17:10] <josephnexus> err
[17:10] <josephnexus> and such
[17:10] <josephnexus> so that I can have evolution synced across my desktop and laptop?
[17:10] <beuno> there are plans to sync every possible thing
[17:11] <beuno> but email is nowhere on the roadmap for the next 6 months
[17:11] <gnomefreak> i will file a wishlist bug but before i do is there any plans to use sync from TB address book? right now its either evo or by hand
[17:11] <beuno> gnomefreak, you can!
[17:11] <josephnexus> is the best way to push things forward through signing up for the paid plan?
[17:11] <beuno> using the funambol plugin
[17:12] <gnomefreak> beuno: thanks
[17:12] <beuno> josephnexus, yes, but also talking to Matt about what you want
[17:12] <josephnexus> i'm fine if my features are delayed a bit
[17:13] <josephnexus> everyone has to share
[17:13] <josephnexus> :-D
[17:13]  * josephnexus runs an OSS project
[17:13] <beuno> gnomefreak, see<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:13] <beuno> er
[17:13] <josephnexus> I know how it is managing what everyone wants
[17:13] <beuno> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/PhoneSync/
[17:13] <beuno> josephnexus, :)
[17:14] <gnomefreak> beuno: thanks
[17:15] <ycwllp> hi all
[17:16] <duanedesign> hi ycwllp
[17:16] <ycwllp> hi there duan
[17:16] <josephnexus> if i'm wanting to sync my desktop and laptop
[17:17] <josephnexus> i just add them both to the same account yes?
[17:17] <ycwllp> i think that d general idea...
[17:18] <josephnexus> i've only got my desktop on one now
[17:18] <igorzolnikov> hello! i shared folders in my storage... after that i clicked on Syncronized with Ubuntu One and don't see anything in Shared With Me.
[17:18] <igorzolnikov> How it works?
[17:19] <NickL> rye, duanedesign: success finally. The sync seems to have worked okay. I reinstalled rhythmbox and deleted any previously synced local files, then started the sync from scratch. The only problem is now I don't have the ubuntu one music store in rhythmbox. Any idea how to get it back?
[17:20] <ycwllp> i m not too sure but you can try to login to google document and check see if your files or document is there
[17:21] <ycwllp> There is a folder by the name of "Folders shared with me" there, igor
[17:21] <igorzolnikov> Where?
[17:22] <ycwllp> login to gmail and then click on documents, that will take you to google documents page...igor
[17:24] <ycwllp> oops..sry, igor .....not there but it is in here ..https://one.ubuntu.com/files
[17:25] <rotten777> do any of you ladies/gents know the team responsible for the u1ms "interface"
[17:26] <igorzolnikov> How cancel the share of My Storage?
[17:28] <ycwllp> good nite ppls
[17:29] <duanedesign> NickL: hello
[17:30] <NickL> duanedesign: hi
[17:30] <duanedesign> NickL:  rhythmbox plugin, did you find it yet?
[17:30] <NickL> not yet
[17:32] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get install rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store
[17:32] <duanedesign> that Terminal command should install the plugin
[17:33] <NickL> duanedesign: pefect. Thanks.
[18:16] <igorzolnikov> i have two files in my storage and can see them on https://one.ubuntu.com/files/, but there is only one file in Ubuntu One on my laptop.
[18:17] <igorzolnikov> what does it mean?
[18:42] <igorzolnikov> help me please
[18:42] <igorzolnikov> i have two files in my storage and can see them on https://one.ubuntu.com/files/, but there is only one file in Ubuntu One on my laptop.
[18:42] <duanedesign> hello igorzolnikov
[18:43] <duanedesign> can you run the following command on the laptop:
[18:43] <duanedesign> u1sdtool -s
[18:44] <igorzolnikov> gorzolnikov@igorzolnikov-laptop:~$ u1sdtool -s
[18:44] <igorzolnikov> State: QUEUE_MANAGER
[18:44] <igorzolnikov>     connection: With User With Network
[18:44] <igorzolnikov>     description: processing queues
[18:44] <igorzolnikov>     is_connected: True
[18:44] <igorzolnikov>     is_error: False
[18:44] <igorzolnikov>     is_online: True
[18:44] <igorzolnikov>     queues: IDLE
[18:44] <duanedesign> ok
[18:45] <duanedesign> igorzolnikov: can you run the command:  u1sdtool --quit; u1sdtool --connect
[18:46] <igorzolnikov> igorzolnikov@igorzolnikov-laptop:~$ u1sdtool --quit
[18:46] <igorzolnikov> ubuntuone-syncdaemon stopped.
[18:46] <igorzolnikov> igorzolnikov@igorzolnikov-laptop:~$
[18:46] <igorzolnikov> igorzolnikov@igorzolnikov-laptop:~$
[18:46] <igorzolnikov> igorzolnikov@igorzolnikov-laptop:~$ u1sdtool --connect
[18:46] <igorzolnikov> igorzolnikov@igorzolnikov-laptop:~$
[18:46] <duanedesign> igorzolnikov: then give it about a minute or so and run the command:  u1sdtool -s
[18:46] <igorzolnikov> igorzolnikov@igorzolnikov-laptop:~$ u1sdtool -s
[18:46] <igorzolnikov> State: QUEUE_MANAGER
[18:46] <igorzolnikov>     connection: With User With Network
[18:46] <igorzolnikov>     description: processing queues
[18:46] <igorzolnikov>     is_connected: True
[18:46] <igorzolnikov>     is_error: False
[18:46] <igorzolnikov>     is_online: True
[18:46] <igorzolnikov>     queues: IDLE
[18:47] <igorzolnikov> I can see second file in Ubuntu One
[18:47] <igorzolnikov> What was wrong?
[18:52] <duanedesign> what version of ubuntu do you have?
[18:53] <duanedesign> on karmic i believe you need to 'force a sync' on the second computer by disconnecting and connecting
, 10.04
[20:38] <joshuahoover> verterok: ping
[20:38] <verterok> joshuahoover: pong
[20:39] <joshuahoover> verterok: wrong channel, nm
[20:39] <verterok> ok :)
[20:39] <beuno> oh!  secret talks!
[20:52] <mkarnicki> verterok: hi! since I'm diggin through the last 2 chapters of android framework documentation, I had little time to go through the java storageprotocol
[20:53] <mkarnicki> verterok: but from what I have seen, you've written pretty much already!!
[20:53] <verterok> mkarnicki: hi
[20:53] <mkarnicki> verterok: does this test client run on the real server also? i think i've seen an official server address in the code
[20:53] <mkarnicki> verterok: hi ^ ^
[20:53] <verterok> mkarnicki: yes, it's almost complete, just need to test it and probably remove the Deferred implementation and use Java Future objects instead
[20:54] <verterok> mkarnicki: yes, as there is no test server yet, I use the real server for testing :)
[20:54] <mkarnicki> verterok: Java Future objects.. is in somewhere in the sources? or is it some kind of Java framework etc?
[20:54] <mkarnicki> verterok: cool :D
[20:55] <mkarnicki> verterok: i think i've seen some 'future' references in the code
[20:55] <verterok> mkarnicki: the Future class is part of the java.util.cocurrent package (I think from Java 6)
[20:55] <mkarnicki> verterok: ah! got it. sorry for dumb question.
[20:55] <verterok> mkarnicki: yes, netty use it, but I'm more used to twisted deferred's
[20:56] <verterok> mkarnicki: so I hacked/fixed on old Deferred.java class and use that...but I think that in order to provide a Java API maybe it should use Futures
[20:56] <mkarnicki> verterok: I have a test tomorrow in the morning so I gotta go :< , but could I contact you sooner or later if I have any questions? :)
[20:57] <mkarnicki> verterok: I see
[20:57] <verterok> mkarnicki: sure
[20:57] <mkarnicki> verterok: great, thanks!
[20:57] <mkarnicki> verterok: till next time then, probably quite soon :)
[20:57] <verterok> later!
[20:57]  * mkarnicki waves
[20:57] <verterok> good look with the test/exam?
[20:58] <verterok> *luck
[20:59] <mkarnicki> verterok: artificial intelligence test, thanks! =)