[03:53] <Jerusalem420> and i've been using root firefox since then cause the non root one doesn't load my bookmarks. but i'm about to fix that
[03:54] <Phillomath> judgepg: In that case format to primary
[03:54] <cjae> _2: why
[03:54] <Phillomath> judgepg: Windows can't deal with extended
[03:54] <judgepg> Phillomath, it will not override my MBR and internal HDD?
[03:54] <letalis> anyone ever tried to transfer files to a phone via bluetooth in nautilus?
[03:54] <nefrin> Ok, still having install problems here: I've setup my partitions correctly for an Ubuntu install, but I keep getting an ERROR 17 on grub loader. I have tried to reinstall GRUB using the liveCD, but when I enter the "find /boot/grub/stage1" from the grub prompt, it says there is no such file (which the file is located in the /boot partition)
[03:54] <JesperHansen> winmutt: I cant keep track if you dont write my nick right when you're writing to me
[03:54] <Jerusalem420> can someone link me to a faq about running two ubuntu computers off of one isp connection and networking the two?
[03:54] <boshhead> apt-cache --names-only --installed search linux <-- I'm trying to find all packages that are installed with "linux" in the package name (not description). But this is returning packages like "grub", and it's also returning things that are not installed. What am I doing wrong?
[03:54] <Jerusalem420> never set up a private network with linux
[03:54] <TheInternal> jeru, sounds like we're both on a similar boat.
[03:54] <judgepg> Phillomath, I may be asking the wrong question, I just want to make sure the HDD doesn't mess up with my Ubuntu system
[03:54] <keres> when installing ubuntu on my very old p3 laptop i get a bunch of input/output errors on my HDD when loading the LiveCD or just the installer. I select it from the menu and it just goes black and lists these errors?
[03:55] <mindrape> Jerusalem420 via cross over cable or what?  Just get a $30 router... then plug them in.  Done.
[03:55] <winmutt> JesperHansen: now you know how i feel about ff xml out put :)
[03:55] <letalis> i have a vx990 (enV) and i was curious if the obex support ing nautilus had read write support or if my phone is read only.
[03:55] <_2> cjae seeing that the libs that an app uses doesn't restrict it to being used only in that particular env.    i run qt apps in gnome and gtk apps in kde    i wouldn't want them to be omitted just because they use a different lib
[03:55] <Phillomath> judgepg: Nope, just make sure you have the right disk selected before you format ;-)
[03:55] <TheInternal> I'm trying to figure out how to turn my ubuntu box into a router.
[03:55] <letalis> 9900
[03:55] <mindrape> TheInternal - JUST a router?  Nothing more?
[03:55] <IntuitiveNipple> nefrin: If you have a separate boot partition, you should use "find /grub/stage1"
[03:55] <mindrape> !router
[03:55] <judgepg> Phillomath, thanks that's great!
[03:55] <JesperHansen> winmutt: Other browsers might do it differently, but you can just edit the .css file for it to meet you demands.
[03:55] <TheInternal> I'll probably have it run BOINC too
[03:55] <Phillomath> judgepg: np
[03:55] <nefrin> IntuitiveNipple ---- will try that
[03:56] <Jerusalem420> what about authentication?
[03:56] <_2> cjae and if there is a way "without manually editing the menu"  i don't know of it.
[03:56] <Jerusalem420> for the isp
[03:56] <Jerusalem420> and how do the computers see each other across the router?
[03:56] <winmutt> ONIX is mind boggling
[03:56] <Jerusalem420> noobie quesitons
[03:56] <_2> cjae that doesn't mean it doesnt exist tho
[03:56] <TheInternal> mindrape: router and for internet throttling to specific compies. BOINC as well.
[03:56]  * Jerusalem420 doesn't like feeling like a noob on tech things
[03:56] <TheInternal> I feel you jeru.
[03:56] <mindrape> TheInternal - and I take it you've taken the time to google and found this link but it wasn't what you wanted?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[03:57] <sagredo> I feel 420
[03:57] <cjae> _2: I mean that is great but who wants a two page menu, I mean you should be able to call the gnome app in kde but 7 browsers, file manager, etc in a menu is a little much
[03:57] <sagredo> burn that up
[03:57] <TheInternal> mindrape: yes, read it a few times.
[03:57] <Mac181> I'm sympathetic, Jeru, but everyone was a 'noob' once. Tell me, where did you learn?
[03:57]  * _2 quit caring about being such a nub about the 7 year of being one...
[03:57] <TheInternal> mindrape: I am neither an intermediate or advanced linux user, sadly. Many of the assumptions made are clearly ones that a total linux noob won't get.
[03:58] <mindrape> TheInternal - describe the topology you want to put in place... where will your router sit (just want to make sure you are doing it right)
[03:58] <_2> cjae heh.  a gui is more than is needed   ;/
[03:58] <TheInternal> mindrape: I'll copy and paste... one moment please
[03:58] <Mac181> I am a total linux 'noob', and when even the step-by-step help threads on the forum are sailing over my head, its quite frustrating.
[03:58] <Overand> TheInternal: Personally, ubuntu isn't my distribution-of-choice for running a router - it's veruy capable, but I like having a frontend.
[03:59] <Jerusalem420> mostly self taught on windows, then switched over 3 years ago. i have a former roomate/friend who breaths linux
[03:59] <Jerusalem420> he's been around to hold my hand
[03:59] <Gnea> Mac181: it helps once you've successfully made it through a thing or 3
[03:59] <Jerusalem420> and i use this chat and the faqs
[03:59] <TheInternal> mindrape: I want to use my old clunker computer as a router (rather than buy a router) for my small home wired network. I have an 8 port 10/100/1000 switch and all the compies in the network have 1 Gb nics. I want to use my linux box (named "Uggy") as the router, connect my cable modem via 10/100 nic, connect to the switch as the uplink on the 10/100/1000, and have all the computers on my network be able to access the internet. I'd li
[03:59] <Overand> Mac181: you'll find that once you've passed a certain point, things will start to 'click'
[03:59] <Mac181> I also have a friend, but I cant expect him to be available at whim to help me. He got my mic working, but that's only 1/4 busted systems.
[03:59] <Overand> There's a very real 'aha' moment.
[03:59] <_2> Mac181 oh yes. i remember those days quite well.    first thing to do is "forget everything you know about computers" so you can start without all the garbage you picked up from that other os... :)
[04:00] <TheInternal> overand: being new to linux, I'm open to sugge3stions if there is an easy to use (and relatively automated) distro to try out. GUI is preferred.
[04:00] <Gnea> Overand: very well put :)
[04:00] <cjae> _2: right but I try to turn ppl on to linux and away from doze so cli for anything is not an option and kde in 8.10 is a little flakey so I would like to have both
[04:00] <PressureX> Hey guys
[04:00] <Jerusalem420> windblows you mean _2?
[04:00] <Mac181> Lucky me, I didnt pick up much garbage beforehand.
[04:00] <Mac181> "I cant afford a new mac, I dont want windows... lets install Ubuntu!"
[04:00] <Mac181> And now here I am.
[04:00] <racecar56> YAY!
[04:00] <racecar56> good
[04:00] <cjae> _2: plus g/f isn't going to use cli either
[04:00] <PressureX> Ubuntu sure looks cool, now I wish I knew how to use it right o_O, im so confused ...
[04:00] <racecar56> windows fails and mac too expensive is right
[04:00] <racecar56> i agree
[04:00] <TheInternal> this is only my second time to ask for any help, personally. I've done a TON of reading and trial and error to even get ubuntu to install on my old clunker.
[04:00] <Mac181> Good, yes, but I dont know how to fix problems.
[04:01] <_2> Jerusalem420 so it does...  so it does...
[04:01] <PressureX> I've been reading for the past 4 hours, I still don't know how to do what Im trying to do, lol.
[04:01] <Gnea> Mac181: first of all, you need to establish a list of problems or goals that you would like to achieve
[04:01] <racecar56> however my first comp had windows 98SE and my first linux to use was xandros desktop 3.04
[04:01] <nefrin> Ok, so I reinstalled the GRUB through the liveCD, but I am still getting Error 17 when booting up
[04:01] <mcohen> hi all, I have just had a failed upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, somewhat experienced linux user, at a bit of a loss, can anyone help?
[04:01] <racecar56> but i like ubuntu the best out of them all
[04:02] <Gnea> Mac181: second, start from the bottom with the smallest problems
[04:02] <Jerusalem420> the internal, the people here are usually very helpful
[04:02] <mindrape> mcohen - error msgs you got?
[04:02] <_2> nefrin raid ?
[04:02] <Jerusalem420> its nice to say thanks
[04:02] <mindrape> PressureX what are you trying to do?
[04:02] <Jerusalem420> not that you don;t
[04:02] <PressureX> Would somebody be so kind in helping me getting my wireless to work?
[04:02] <Jerusalem420> i'm just giving u some advice
[04:02] <Mac181> I have that. I want the speakers to turn off when the headphones are in. I want the screen brightness control to not be seemingly set on random, and I want the suspend function to work and not go to a dead-end command line.
[04:02] <anom01y> is it a pain to switch from kde to xfce ? I installed kubuntu 8.04
[04:02] <nefrin> _2 ---- not understanding the question
[04:02] <mcohen> erm, bit of a complex process, if you have sometime, should we take this to private?
[04:02] <hacker_kid> im trying to add an OS to my grub menu.lst, its a linux distro installed on the first hard disc, on the 5th partition (a logical partition inside the third partition), the kernel is at /boot/vmlinuz but when i try and boot it i get file not found
[04:03] <TheInternal> heee. I'm appreciative :P I'm very slow to ask for help is all. I've easily spent 50 hours in the last week, reading and troubleshooting rather than sleeping XD
[04:03] <mindrape> PressureX - sure... lspci -k          sudo lshw -C network
[04:03] <mindrape> PressureX - pastebin the results and give me the link.
[04:03] <Gnea> Mac181: well, for the first one, are the speakers built into the system or externally plugged, like the headphones?
[04:03] <Jerusalem420> ok. i exported my root bookmark file for firefox and can't get the user firefox to use it
[04:04] <racecar56> i like ubuntu 8.10 better than 8.04.x
[04:04] <Mac181> Internal.
[04:04] <mindrape> Jerusalem420 check the perms on the file?  You may have some chown/chmod'ing in your future.
[04:04] <racecar56> my first ubuntu to use was 8.04.0
[04:04] <mindrape> !grub | hacker_kid
[04:04] <smeegs> Has anyone played with flow-capture?  I installed on Intrepid from the repository, configured it and it's not starting.  I can't find any logging anywhere to indicate why and an strace doesn't mean a lot to me.
[04:04] <Jerusalem420> i already 777ed it
[04:04] <PressureX> It says a lot, and I can't copy and paste it, since right now im on my laptop, and im trying to get ubuntu to run on my desktop here next to me :P
[04:04] <TheInternal> mindrape: to simplify the topology - cable modem <---> "Uggy" my Ubuntu box <---> 8 port switch <---> computers on network
[04:04] <Gnea> Mac181: and they don't turn off automatically?! that is very weird. what is the make and model of your computer?
[04:04] <mcohen> ok, here's what happened:  ok, here's what happened:  Initial install was kubuntu, disliked crashes in dolphin & kde 4, switched to gnome, so it was kubuntu with gnome, using gdm, for about a week or two
[04:04] <Mac181> Lenovo Ideapad y50.
[04:05] <Mac181> I see multiple threads with this problem, and atleast 3 fixes.
[04:05] <hacker_kid> mindrape, i have and am going through those documents. im asking for help because i cant find anything
[04:05] <Mac181> *y530
[04:05] <TheInternal> I've been using my dual core windows box, but would rather have a clunker box that could get the job done.
[04:05] <Gnea> hrm
[04:05] <Gnea> !laptop
[04:05] <Guiri> mindrape: is there a way to specifically exclude packages from being installed? like apt-get install ebox --deny postgresql?
[04:05] <Mac181> I dont know which fix works, and I cant understand the instructions because I'm a 100% beginner.
[04:05] <mindrape> PressureX - well on the lspci -k command look for something that could be your wireless card and tell me the driver its presently attempting to use.  On the lshw -C network command tell me what on earth kind of card it is.
[04:05] <mcohen> ran the upgrade to 8.10, a number of packages failed, when I restarted with the new kernel, it hangs after the username/password stage
[04:05] <Jerusalem420> wht was ubuntu 3.x called?
[04:05] <Guiri> !ebox
[04:05] <Gnea> the bot is such a great reference :)
[04:05] <mindrape> Guiri - yes, but you will likely get breakage.  They build dependencies for a reason.
[04:05] <mcohen> ran in debug mode, dpkg, but it scrolls a whole bunch of various failures and comes out with a general failure at the end
[04:06] <racecar56> what the... i burned a ubuntu server 8.10 CD and it isnt bootable nor is it readable
[04:06] <mcohen> so basically I'm not sure what in particular has broken for it because it all scrolls past my eyes
[04:06] <racecar56> LOLWUT
[04:06] <Guiri> well I'm trying to avoid compiling here. If I install then the scripts go in their proper places. If I compile I can use mysql instead, but have no idea where stuff goes
[04:06] <_2> "<Jerusalem420> wht was ubuntu 3.x called?"  non-existant.
[04:06] <Guiri> I'm looking for a middle ground
[04:06] <Mac181> Ubuntuforums.org mentions fixes. Its not that no one knows how. Its equivilent to someone answering my question in greek.
[04:06] <racecar56> yet my download is not corrupt
[04:06] <Mac181>  I can guess a few words but I'm mostly helpless.
[04:06] <Jerusalem420> 4.x then
[04:06] <PressureX> well, on lspci -k, it says: "01:08.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)"
[04:06] <_2> Jerusalem420 4.10 warty warthog
[04:07] <racecar56> and does ubuntu 4.04 exist? or is it just giving me a 404 error because its ubuntu 4.04?
[04:07] <racecar56> lol
[04:07] <_2> Jerusalem420 that was the beginning.
[04:07] <Jerusalem420> thats when i started
[04:07] <mindrape> Guiri - well then yes.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375194
[04:07] <_2> !release
[04:08] <fearful> How long ago was 4.10
[04:08] <Gnea> hrmm
[04:08] <_2> fearful  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[04:08] <fearful> oh sorry didn't read
[04:08] <mcohen> anyone?
[04:08] <_2> short answer it was in 4 10
[04:08] <PressureX> on lshw -C network it says a bunch, but the line to my wireless card says "*-network description: Network Controller, product: BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless Lan Controller, vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[04:08] <PressureX> etc. etc.
[04:08] <un_dave> does anyone know of an rss reader with text-to-speech support?
[04:08] <Jerusalem420> there has got to be a way to migrate all my root firefox settings to user firefox
[04:09] <mindrape> PressureX - can you sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-modules (see if its already there)
[04:09] <PressureX> 1 sec
[04:10] <Mac181> I get the idea that I'm either going to need a "Complete Idiot's Guide" type book, or I"ll need my friend to sit down with me and explain all.
[04:10] <PressureX> "Reading package lists... Done, Building dependenct tree, Reading state information... Done, E: Couldn't find package linux-kernel-modules
[04:10] <mcohen> gents? anyone can give me a hand rescuing this failed upgrade?
[04:10] <mindrape> PressureX - sorry... linux-restricted-modules
[04:10] <mindrape> my bad
[04:11] <Gnea> Mac181: the headphone issue sounds like something that's specific to the ideapad (i've never ever heard of that problem with any other laptop. ever.)
[04:11] <_2> Jerusalem420 close all ff's   'sudo cp -R /root/.firefox $HOME ;chown -R $USER $HOME'
[04:11] <PressureX> same message for linux-restricted-modules
[04:11] <mindrape> hrrmmm... well maybe your repos need some fixin'.
[04:11] <PressureX> that darn can;t find package comes up with anything I try, network-admin, network-manager, everything
[04:11] <Jerusalem420> can i just copy my cookies and bookmarks and saved passwords
[04:11] <mindrape> there is another way though... let's try this...
[04:11] <PMT> I'm running Jaunty. My DNS requests are failing sometimes, it's not clear why - nslookup is always succeeding, telnet or ssh or similar fail sometimes, the strace thinks it's /etc/mdns.allow, google doesn't turn up anything useful for this bug.
[04:11] <_2> Jerusalem420 that will also overwrite any user settings  so make backups first.
[04:12] <fearful> wow 4.10 looks really cool lol
[04:12] <TheInternal> I guess I'll post this question here: if you want an older machine (athlon XP 2000+ with a poop graphics card and 256 MB of RAM) to function as a router, will it be able to route effectively at high speeds (ideally with bandwidth throttling to certain PCs) while running a distro like Ubuntu? I'd like to run BOINC as well as be a router, but honestly don't plan on using the box for much else (maybe as a file/print server)
[04:12] <mindrape> PressureX - this link has the fix for the exact driver you are using I believe - - - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=905350
[04:12] <Jerusalem420> there are no user settings and it will leave the root ones alone, correct?
[04:12] <Mac181> It may be a Lenovo thing.
[04:12] <_2> correct
[04:12] <_2> Jerusalem420 oops
[04:12] <PressureX> Ok, let me read through it, ill let ya know when im done. thanks so much man.
[04:12] <Jerusalem420> can't stat /root/.firefox
[04:12] <_2> Jerusalem420 close all ff's   'sudo cp -R /root/.firefox $HOME ;sudo chown -R $USER $HOME'  <<< i forgot the second sudo the first time.
[04:13] <Mac181> Ehh, I'll have to deal with this later. None of these are critical issues. The computer works fine, as long as I'm not trying to dim my screen, play music quietly, or put it to sleep.
[04:13] <_2> err  maybe .mozilla-firefox ?
[04:13] <Jerusalem420> i'm running bash as root
[04:13] <Mac181> Right now I have to go interview a porn star.
[04:13] <PMT> Mac181: what kind of Lenovo?
[04:13] <Mac181> Seriously.
[04:13] <_2> Jerusalem420 then the command wont work.
[04:13] <TheInternal> would a different distro be better for routering, BOINCing, and file/printer sharing if that's about all it would do?
[04:13] <Mac181> Ideapad y530.
[04:13] <Gnea> Mac181: hrm, the suspend problem seems to be somewhat documented already... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/311494
[04:13] <fearful> can you still download ubuntu 4.10
[04:13] <mindrape> TheInternal - Coyote Linux.
[04:13] <Mac181> Gnea: I know all 3 of my problems have atleast some commonness to em.
[04:14] <mindrape> fearful - if you want to get exploited every other day... surely you can find it somewhere.
[04:14] <histo> fearful: why could you possibly want that?
[04:14] <fearful> just to mess around with it like not even online
[04:14] <mcohen> what does it mean when dpkg returns an error code (1)?
[04:14] <smeegs> No-one configured flow-tools before?
[04:14] <Jerusalem420> i found the .mozilla/firefox
[04:14] <_2> Jerusalem420 anyway the basic idea is to copy the data to the users home and chown it     but using the variables  $USER and $HOME  will fail if the shell is not owned by the target user.
[04:14] <eternaljoy> fearful: reading is good for you ;)
[04:14] <histo> fearful: I don't htink the repos are still up.
[04:14] <Gnea> Mac181: I find it odd, but not uncommon that new systems have problems like this. have you made a post to ubuntuforums already or have you just been following threads on there?
[04:15] <_2> Jerusalem420 so you can adjust the command as needed.
[04:15] <fearful> i'll read then
[04:15] <fearful> lol
[04:15] <mindrape> fearful - do you just want a light-weight distro?
[04:15] <histo> fearful: I stand corrected
[04:15] <histo> fearful: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/4.10/
[04:15] <mcohen> mindrape - do you have any time atm, or shortly?
[04:15] <PMT> Mac181: You're apparently leaving, I'm assuming you've checked ThinkWiki and have no useful advice from it?
[04:15] <mindrape> mcohen - sure...
[04:15] <PressureX> mindrape - What if it doesn't find "ndisgtk" in the Synaptic Package Manager? :o
[04:15] <Mac181> Following threds.
[04:15] <TheInternal> mindrape: thanks for your continued patience, mind. Coyote is listed as being no longer maintained though. can it do BOINC and file/printer sharing as well? (does it have a noobie friendly gui)?
[04:15] <Mac181> Thinkwiki?
[04:15] <fearful> mindrape: no not really, I just saw some cool screen shots people running 4.10
[04:16] <mindrape> PressureX - did you read the instructions on enabling the other repos?
[04:16] <Jerusalem420> "will fail if the shell is not owned by the target user." meaning i need to run it as user with the sudo? how is that different than running it in sudo bash|?
[04:16] <PressureX> yeah
[04:16] <mindrape> fearful - you can theme any distro to look like any screenshot... send me a screenshot and I'll tell you what they did.  :)
[04:16] <PressureX> There are only 2 when I go to Third Party apps, then it says something with update, well, that doesn't work since there is no internet on it, so when I click close, their still checked and all
[04:16] <Mac181> This fix looks downright easy, but I dont know how to do what what it tells me to do. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend
[04:16] <PressureX> but I checked them both
[04:16] <mcohen> mindrape - I am trying dpkg fixing in the recovery mode, but a bunch of packages simply fail to upgrade/install properly, including a bunch of base gnome packages like gnome-applets and nautilus
[04:17] <fearful> http://www.alleslinux.com/prog_pics/ubuntu-dick.png
[04:17] <Gnea> Mac181: if you can find the time, I would encourage you to make a detailed post of your own regarding these problems you're experiencing. It's been a little over a month since the problems started to surface, so now would be an excellent time to get in on it - someone may have a solution
[04:17] <_2> fearful several releases are no longer supported. but you can still use them   and the packages are in old-releases.ubuntu.com  i think
[04:17] <mindrape> mcohen - have you tried sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[04:17] <fearful> _2: thanks
[04:18] <PMT> World - any thoughts on my DNS issues? It's kind of annoying getting Failure to resolve nondeterministically without ever querying the DNS server.
[04:18] <chuckc> i got 3 new drives, setup raid 5 on them, formatted the raid, now have decided to install LVM and then format the drives.  What is the process for removing the format or what exactly should i do at this point?
[04:18] <mcohen> mindrape - a lot of errors like so and so package depends on python-gtk2 but that package is not configured yet
[04:18] <PressureX> mindrape - hold on, I found it manually, ima go back to reading (for some reason quick search didn't find it)
[04:18] <Mac181> I see. Well, I think I need to get my friend to sit down with me and help me through one of the easier ones (the suspend fix seems downright easy). Once I can translate those commands into actions, I'm on solid footing to start learning to fend for myself.
[04:18] <mindrape> mcohen - sudo dpkg -configure python-gtk2
[04:19] <mcohen> mindrape - I had the ubuntu packages for python, numpy etc but also installed the latest versions independently from source.  When I ran the upgrades, packages like python-cairo and numy have failed to install, don't know why
[04:19] <Mac181> But yeah, porn stars are waiting for me.
[04:19] <Gnea> Mac181: sounds good, he should be able to help you out with that. good luck with the interviews.
[04:19] <TheInternal> other than finding a user friendly router/firewall distro that can do BOINC and file/printer sharing... the only other pressing issue is how to get Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell Inspiron 1100... which I've heard is a pain if not impossible. (not to mention the fact that the BIOS on the Dell I'm working on is so ancient that I have to find an intermediate bios update before I can do the current one, and I've had no  luck finding one).
[04:19] <Mac181> I love my job sometimes. :-P
[04:19] <mindrape> !ot | mac181
[04:19] <TheInternal> woah, porn stars? what?
[04:19] <PressureX> Blah, so I found it, checked it for installation, hit apply, this is what I get now: An error occured, E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/locl - open (11 Resource temporarily inavailable", E: Unable to lock the download directory
[04:20] <atom^x> bs
[04:20] <mcohen> mindrape - it says unknown option -o, I don't think it understood -configure
[04:20] <mindrape> PressureX - close Synaptic if you are running apt-get at the command line.
[04:20] <fearful> mindrape: so how can i get something like that?
[04:20] <mindrape> sudo dpkg --reconfigure perhaps?
[04:20] <PressureX> my terminal is closed
[04:20] <_2> PMT route  show a default route ?   and  /etc/reslov.conf show a usable dns server ?
[04:20] <Mac181> Thanks mindrape, but that was my way of saying goodbye. Try setting the bot to have a !removestick command sometime. Ciao! :)
[04:21] <mcohen> yep
[04:21] <TheInternal> to everyone who's been patient enough to answer my questions thus far; thanks
[04:21] <mindrape> fearful - hold... loading the pic you linked
[04:22] <cjae> _2: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/18/removing-kde-icons-in-gnome-remove-gnome-icons-in-kde/ sweet
[04:22] <mcohen> mindrape - depends on python2.4-cairo
[04:22] <mcohen> when I try to install it, with apt-get install, the install fails
[04:22] <mindrape> fearful - what part of it do you want to copy? All of it/  It's using a mac-wanna-be theme.  There are tons of those to choose from for gnome and KDE... art.gnome.org
[04:22] <mindrape> fearful - the media player looks like kjofol w an awful skin.
[04:23] <PMT> _2: all my routes are valid, the only DNS server listed in /etc/resolv.conf works, all queries always by host or nslookup succeed, regardless of whether I explicitly specify DNS server.
[04:24] <Jerusalem420> i need to copy from /root/.mozilla/firefox to  ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.0/ or symlink or something
[04:24] <Jerusalem420> what to do?
[04:24] <mindrape> mcohen - well it sounds like you are in dependency hell after installing some pkgs from source... it may make sense to apt-get remove some of those pkgs that are having conflict errors then re-install them to see if they can auto resolve...
[04:24] <_2> cjae like i said other than manually editing the menu
[04:25] <mindrape> Jerusalem - cp -R for recursive copy (all files in a dir)
[04:25] <mindrape> Jerusalem once they are in your home dir (~) chown them.
[04:25] <Jerusalem420> k
[04:25] <_2> PMT hmmm  and what exactly fails ?
[04:25] <Jerusalem420> so let me make sure i got this right
[04:25] <mindrape> sudo chown YOU.YOU ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.0/
[04:25] <PressureX> Blah, so I found it, checked it for installation, hit apply, this is what I get now: An error occured, E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/locl - open (11 Resource temporarily inavailable", E: Unable to lock the download directory
[04:25] <mindrape> actually its probably YOU:YOU... cant recall
[04:25] <_2> mindrape -R
[04:25] <Jerusalem420> cp -r  /root/.mozilla/firefox  ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.0/
[04:25] <mindrape> PressureX - some pkg manager has a lock on the apt database..
[04:26] <fearful> I'm heading out have a good night all
[04:26] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi!
[04:26] <mindrape> Jerusalem420 if you are root yes... I take it you are being naughty and got a rootshell?
[04:26] <PMT> _2: i get could not resolve [...]
[04:26] <Jerusalem420> thats naughty?
[04:26] <_2> Jerusalem420 nope.  root's ~ && $HOME == /root/  so that will fail.
[04:26] <mindrape> yes.  You should never be root
[04:26] <Aperture_Science> Turns out part of the problem was the SLI config. I removed my second video card (for now) and it's working.
[04:26] <mindrape> !root | Jerusalem420
[04:26] <Y-Town> anyone know of an app yet to open and edit .pub files from MS publisher?
[04:27] <PMT> Y-Town: OO.org doesn't do it?
[04:27] <mindrape> Y-Town - openoffice maybe?
[04:27] <Jerusalem420> lol
[04:27] <Y-Town> PMT: mindrape: nope
[04:27] <Jerusalem420> can u explain _2?
[04:27] <PressureX> mindrape - How would I go about fixing the "lock on the apt database"?
[04:27] <PMT> Jerusalem420: if run as root ~ will evaluate to root's homedir
[04:27] <mcohen> mindrape -  I tried --configure python-cairo, get the error "pycentral:pkginstall: not overwriting local files"
[04:27] <mindrape> ~ defines the path to the $HOME directory for the currently logged in user in the session.
[04:28] <Jerusalem420> ah
[04:28] <mindrape> PressureX - kill off any other process that is using it... ps aux and pgup through it.
[04:28] <Jerusalem420> need to change it to /user/.mozilla etc etc
[04:28] <PMT> also change the owner if i understand how you're doing this correctly
[04:28] <_2> Jerusalem420 that's what i mentioned way ^ up there.  you said >>><EMAIL_ADDRESS>cp /root/<something> ~/<something>   <<<   that will fail     something and something are the same something
[04:28] <mindrape>  /home/USER/.mozilla/etc
[04:29] <redvamp128> Y-Town:  the only thing I can find is a round a bout way - they say convert it online to a .pdf (5 free conversions) https://createpdf.adobe.com/index.pl  (you have to sign up for it first)
[04:29] <bradly> ldap is terrible!
[04:29] <Jerusalem420> understood
[04:29] <mindrape> bradly - why?
[04:29] <PMT> not arguing, why bradly?
[04:29] <Jerusalem420> i said duh out loud once i realized what i wrote
[04:29] <bradly> it just seems overly complicated
[04:29] <mindrape> bradly - so if you dont understand something it's terrible?
[04:29] <_2> Jerusalem420 also can't   chown $USER    because  the $USER is root  you have to use exact user name as well.
[04:29] <mindrape> that is a wonderful viewpoint... yawn.
[04:30] <bradly> yes
[04:30] <mca1> sovy
[04:30] <Y-Town> redvamp128: thanks.  I was hoping to open and edit this file
[04:30] <bradly> things being more complicate then they need to be is terrible
[04:30] <PMT> ooh, what an interesting response, _2
[04:30] <PMT> www.slashdot.org has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:30] <PMT> Host www.slashdot.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[04:30] <PMT> www.slashdot.org has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:30] <PMT> Host www.slashdot.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[04:30] <FloodBot2> PMT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:30] <Guest18747> what cmd can i run in terminal to see if my graphics card is enabled?
[04:30] <redvamp128> Y-Town:  once you get it converted then -- Linux does have pdf fully supported
[04:31] <PMT> Teach me to paste two lines. :)
[04:31] <porter1> How do we remove bookmarks from the places menu?
[04:31] <mindrape> Guest18747 - sudo lshw -C graphics (I believe) or sudo lspci -k
[04:31] <Y-Town> redvamp128: thanks   maybe I will have to go that route
[04:31] <_2> PMT you must have bounced the button, it looks like four lines to me...
[04:31] <PMT> _2 - So I saw.
[04:32] <PMT> It was 4.
[04:32] <mindrape> I was wrong... its video not graphics.  :)
[04:32] <bradly> I'm having a tough time groking ldap setup :/
[04:32] <PMT> bradly: how are you trying to do it?
[04:32] <tiberius_> so I'm trying to run dosemu on Ubuntu
[04:32] <mindrape> is that a question tiberius_ ?
[04:32] <bradly> PMT: just setup a group with a few users.
[04:33] <tiberius_> everything about it works, it responds to ctrl-alt-pgdown, it updates the terminal title... but other than that it outputs nothing
[04:33] <porter1> Anyone know?
[04:33] <_2> PMT you can "ping www.slashdot.org"  can't you ?
[04:33] <tiberius_> draws a black screen that doesn't go away until I exit :-P
[04:33] <PMT> bradly: do you have ldap set up already or are you trying to create from scratch
[04:33] <PMT> [diradm is also useful fyi]
[04:33] <PMT> _2 - ping works fine
[04:33] <mindrape> porter1 - this is ubuntu help, not browser help... which browser?  Firefox? Opera? Konqueror? Something else?
[04:33] <jtaji> porter1: open up a file browser, select Places in the left panel, you can delete them there
[04:33] <_2> PMT  man i don't know.   you bested me on that one.
[04:33] <prince_jammys> mindrape: nautilus
[04:34] <bradly> PMT: create from scratch. We have one systems had for production, but I'm trying to setup one for dev testing locally
[04:34] <joelar> anyone know a good guide for learning to host your own site ( i know it's not that hard, but i can't find a good guide for Ubuntu Ibex )?
[04:34] <porter1> Ah ok, I forgot it was also in nautilus
[04:34] <PMT> bradly: slapd or something else?
[04:34] <joelar> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-8.10 left me able to view my site from the outside but not use a browser on site.
[04:34] <bradly> joelar: checkout slicehost's articles
[04:34] <bradly> PMT: yes
[04:34] <Jerusalem420> serious progress thanks to you guys
[04:34] <mindrape> joelar - sudo apt-get install apache2... you will be halfway there.  Then you need to register a domain, setup an A record to point to your IP, find a port that isn't blocked by your ISP to let people into the http daemon, etc, etc, etc.
[04:34] <mcohen> how do I get ubuntu to resolve repositories when I am in text shell in recovery mode?
[04:35] <mcohen> it doesn't seem to resolve them presumably it doesn't have a net connection running
[04:35] <PMT> mcohen: need more internet, yeah
[04:35] <PMT> you can either try starting networkmangler and hoping it does it right or configure it by hand with ifconfig/dhclient/whatever
[04:35] <mcohen> mangler?
[04:35] <PMT> networkmanager - i'm being facetious :)
[04:36] <NobodyHere> I need a way to put the current time in Anchorage on the top panel like my current local time.. but I can't seem to find anything to do it with. Anyone got some quick ideas?
[04:36] <mcohen> ack, command not found
[04:36] <randal> i need some help. i made a ubuntu start up disk on my usb and i was wondering do updates work on it or should i forget about updateing it.
[04:36] <mcohen> how do I do it by hand?
[04:36] <PMT> randal: depends how you do it
[04:36] <PMT> mcohen: /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
[04:36] <PMT> but ifconfig eth0 or eth1 or eth2 or wlan0 or whatever [IP] up
[04:36] <PMT> e.g. ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> [if that's your IP
[04:36] <PMT> that wouldn't give you DNS tho
[04:37] <_2> randal if you mount it on /boot then it should automatically update with the system.
[04:37] <randal> PMT: what do you mean i tried it but i got some error how should i do it
[04:37] <PMT> dhclient eth0/eth1/etc
[04:37] <PMT> randal: is it just a livecd environment or did you install it to there
[04:37] <randal> _2: what do you mean i dont understand
[04:37] <PMT> if the former, you'd need to unpack it on another machine, upgrade it, and repack it
[04:37] <PMT> it's stored in a highly-compressed read-only file that's loaded and unpacked every time you boot the USB key/CD/whatever if the former
[04:38] <randal> PMT:  ITS A LIVE CD ON THE USB IT DOES SAVE SETTINGS ON IT opps sorry capps
[04:38] <_2> randal you say "i made a ubuntu start up disk on my usb" i assume that means you use the usb device to boot the system ?    if so do you mount the usb device on /boot or not ?
[04:38] <PMT> randal: if it saves settings, that's not what i outlined above, upgrade it and be merry
[04:38] <PMT> [probably]
[04:39] <tuxflavoredwaffl> Hi !  What is a good program that burns .avi files to cd-r ?
[04:39] <randal> _2: ok what i did was i put the live cd in the compter then i went system>Administration>Create usb start up disk
[04:39] <mcohen> PMT - success, thanky ou!
[04:39] <_2> tuxflavoredwaffl what format ?
[04:40] <sharef> why does my KDE desktop show the system root directory but gnome shows the normal ~/Desktop??
[04:40] <randal> PMT:  is there s special way to upgrade because i tried it got half way throgh and crashed
[04:40] <Guest18747> how do i know which driver to install for my graphics card?
[04:40] <sharef> same user
[04:40] <PMT> radsy: error reporting would be useful
[04:40] <PMT> e.g. tell me what the error was
[04:40] <randal> PMT:  i meant update
[04:40] <PMT> using ubuntu's pastebin
[04:40] <PMT> randal: well yes. i still want to see the error.
[04:40] <ScottG489> Could someone help me getting hibernate to work?
[04:40] <_2> randal oh,  another "ubuntu nominclature exception"   sorry.
[04:40] <mindrape> !hibernate
[04:40] <tuxflavoredwaffl> _2 i am not sure ?
[04:41] <PMT> ScottG489: graphics card, Ubuntu version and architecture, graphics driver
[04:41] <randal> PMT i kinda didnt copy it dowsn and i cant restart the update because i get another error and it wont let me start package manager
[04:41] <PMT> randal: go to terminal and do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:41] <randal> PMT:  you know what ill reinstall it
[04:41] <randal> PMT: ya thats the error
[04:41] <tuxflavoredwaffl> I would like to burn an avi file to a cd-r and watch it on a dvd player.
[04:41] <josiah> hey wats up
[04:42] <randal> PMT:  but i went to fix it and i just got another error lol
[04:42] <tuxflavoredwaffl> does anyone know of a good program to do that?
[04:42] <randal> _2: lol sorry im confused
[04:42] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: depends on your DVD player
[04:42] <PMT> do you want a VCD, or AVI files on a CD, or a DVD-video?
[04:42] <randal> PMT:  i think i shoud reinstall
[04:42] <sharef> why does my KDE desktop show the system root directory but gnome shows the normal ~/Desktop??
[04:42] <tuxflavoredwaffl> pmt it says it plays divx
[04:42] <mindrape> randal - randal - what error?
[04:43] <PMT> randal: if you want, by all means, but it's unnecessary
[04:43] <randal> PMT:  while it was updateing i was running programs would that effect it
[04:43] <tuxflavoredwaffl> I have a program called avidemux and i think i can change the format .
[04:43] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: so burn AVI files to a data DVD with Divx for the video [or xvid if it does that] and have fun
[04:44] <tuxflavoredwaffl> i just have cd-r's will those work?
[04:44] <mindrape> randal - I ran into a similar issue after an upgrade... had to apt-get remove 2 apps then I could dpkg -configure -a then re-installed them.
[04:45] <randal> mindrape: you know what i think i messed it up bad it only takes 10 min to reinstall
[04:45] <_2> randal sorry.  it's ubuntu's nomenclature that is confused.  they misname things like that all the time.  you clicked "make startup disk"  but the proper name should have been something like "install to usb device"   or some such.      kinda like they called "gnome-terminal" "console"  which is again wrong name for thang.
[04:45] <mindrape> :)
[04:45] <wetchr> does anyone have experience with chroot jails?
[04:45] <mindrape> I was locked in once back in 1997, wetchr... horrible crime against humanity it was.
[04:45] <_2> wetchr only breaking out of them.
[04:45] <randal> _2: so is it ok to update in a live usb
[04:45] <wetchr> lol
[04:46] <wetchr> Im having a hard time makign on for cvs
[04:46] <_2> randal sure if you have enough free space on it.
[04:46] <_2> randal and you didn't use a casper filesystem    "which it probably did by default"
[04:47] <randal> _2:  i think a do and when i was doing update it was halfway thorugh and crashed and then i had big problems could this be called because i was running programs at the same time
[04:47] <randal> _2: whats a casper filesystem
[04:47] <racecar56> yeah
[04:48] <_2> randal compressed filesystem within a file
[04:48] <racecar56> k
[04:48] <matt___> Hey, I'm trying to install ZBrush and I'm getting a weird error, can anyone give me a hand?
[04:48] <matt___> through Wine of course
[04:48] <_2> !casper
[04:48] <_2> well google knows
[04:49] <PMT> casper and cloopfs are how livecds work nowadays
[04:49] <^hashbang^> isn't casper = cramfs or something like that
[04:49] <PMT> casper is the booting mechanism
[04:49] <PMT> cramfs is the filesystem in question
[04:49] <PMT> whatever cloopfs's actual name is
[04:49] <^hashbang^> ah yea... c
[04:49] <randal> _2: im sorry im confused are you telling me to do something?
[04:49]  * _2 head desk
[04:50] <K8L> hi guys ! is there a way to get more than 4 primary partitions on a hard drive ? :/
[04:50] <mcquaid> does anyone know if nvidia's binary has an option for threaded optimization?
[04:50] <wetchr> no
[04:50] <PMT> K8L: not using the normal partition tables
[04:50] <ScottG489> PMT: 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450, Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit, and the Propriety Drivers (ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver)
[04:50] <PMT> gpt will do it, and most modern systems have fun with that
[04:50] <K8L> ok thanx
[04:50] <PMT> any reason you can't use extended partitions, K8L
[04:50] <matt___> can someone give me a hand with a Wine/terminal related problem
[04:50] <K8L> let's delete the recovery partition
[04:50] <PMT> matt___: sure, but #winehq is your friend
[04:51] <PMT> K8L: IIRC extended doesn't have to be the fourth
[04:51] <mcohen> success gents, thank you all verymuch
[04:51] <matt___> I'm not sure if it's a problem with Wine directly or if it's an Ubuntu problem
[04:51] <PMT> ScottG489: what version of fglrx, latest in the ubuntu nonfree?
[04:51] <PMT> matt___: just tell me what it is please
[04:51] <sifo> hello
[04:51] <tuxflavoredwaffl> what is a good cd burning program?
[04:51] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: cdrecord is nice for ISOs, there are a lot of other burning GUIs
[04:52] <tuxflavoredwaffl> pmt how bout one for burnin .avi files
[04:52] <ScottG489> PMT: im not sure what version of fglrx I have
[04:52] <wetchr> does anyhave have any experience with jailit?  ahving some problems logging in.  It just closes connection automaticly
[04:53] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: doesn't matter which one if it's not a premade CD/DVD image unless you're trying to make your own video or something
[04:53] <PMT> ScottG489: i think dmesg | grep -i fglrx will tell you
[04:53] <PMT> dpkg -s xorg-driver-fglrx may help too
[04:54] <tuxflavoredwaffl> pmt brasero keeps telling me that there is not enough space on the disc, but its 700 meg. and the file is 690.
[04:54] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: there's overhead, and that involves overburning :V
[04:55] <tuxflavoredwaffl> pmt so i should overburn?
[04:55] <PMT> tuxflavoredwaffl: if it says you can, that's probably fine
[04:55] <matt___> PMT: sorry I was over in winehq. Anyway, when I try to install I get this error n the terminal
[04:55] <matt___> err:msi:msi_cabextract FDICopy failed
[04:55] <matt___> err:msi:ACTION_InstallFiles Failed to extract cabinet: L"#Data1.cab"
[04:55] <ScottG489> PMT: http://pastebin.com/d575f22b0
[04:55] <matt___> err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"InstallFinalize" returned 1627
[04:55] <matt___> err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"ExecuteAction" returned 1627
[04:56] <FloodBot2> matt___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:56] <ScottG489> i owned his flood
[04:56] <matt___> my bad, I'm new to IRC
[04:57] <anthony> how do i install my graphics csrd drivers?
[04:57] <mindrape> anthony - nvidia or ati?
[04:57] <Guest51393> how do i install my graphics csrd drivers?
[04:58] <mindrape> !nvidia | anthony
[04:58] <Guest51393> mindrape: nvidia geforce 9500 gt
[04:58] <PMT> matt___: pastebin plz
[04:59] <mindrape> Guest51393 - see previous link.
[04:59] <ripdisk> .
[04:59] <mindrape> ..
[05:00] <ripdisk>  If I install kubuntu inside of windows, how do i access my windows files when booted up through ubuntu
[05:00] <matt___> PMT http://paste.ubuntu.com/116318/
[05:00] <mindrape> !ntfs | ripdisk
[05:00] <ripdisk> thnx
[05:01] <PMT> matt___: looks like wine or the installer to me
[05:01] <PMT> go tell #winehq
[05:02] <mindrape> matt___ what app you trying to install?  I can give it a whirl if you'd like...
[05:02] <ScottG489> PMT: See my pastebin?
[05:02] <PMT> ScottG489: i did.
[05:02] <PMT> I'm debating what I suggest.
[05:02] <PMT> My immediate suggestion is to wonder if launchpad knows anything about this.
[05:02] <matt___> it's ZBrush 3.1
[05:02] <ripdisk> mindrape
[05:03] <ScottG489> PMT: Im looking around /etc/hibernate right now for any leads
[05:03] <ripdisk> the link to the script in that page doesn't work
[05:03] <mindrape> ripdisk - for something that intense I don't imagine WINE will have very good compatability... I'd go w VMware-player...
[05:03] <prince_jammys> I think my graphics drivers aren't set up properly.  When I move windows around, they don't move smoothly, and when the screensaver comes on, it's extremely slow, even though it's an ancient one.  I'm running ubuntu hardy, my window manager is fluxbox, and the video card is: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE.  My kernel is 2.6.24-21-generic, and my xorg.conf is of the old-fashioned (longer) kind.  I don't know
[05:03] <ScottG489> PMT: Lines with a # in front of them are commented out right?
[05:03] <PMT> Yup.
[05:03] <MarkusT> Is there a simple way to set up a L2TP client on Ubuntu? Network-Manager diesn't seem to suport L2TP at all and KVPN does only support L2TP inside IPSec. I just need to connect to a server providing username/password and gateway. All resources on the net require endless configurations and seem to be outdated.
[05:04] <ScottG489> hm ok nvm then
[05:04] <mindrape> prince_jammys - lspci -k         which video driver is in use?
[05:04] <matt___> mindrape other people have been having great luck with it, I just can't seem to get it installed
[05:04] <prince_jammys> mindrape: invalid option (-k)
[05:04] <mindrape> prince_jammys which distro are you on and what version?
[05:04] <prince_jammys> ubuntu hardy
[05:05] <mindrape> hrrmmm... dunno man.  sudo lshw -C video
[05:05] <mindrape> matt___ what command are you using to install it?
[05:05] <prince_jammys> mindrape: configuration: driver=i810_smbus latency=0 module=i2c_i810
[05:05] <prince_jammys> that?
[05:06] <ScottG489> PMT: What is launchpad?
[05:06] <matt___> mindrape I'm navigating to the install folder through the terminal and just typing wine ZBrushInstall.exe
[05:06] <mindrape> yes... prince_jammys, is that the right driver is the next question?  You may need to install the latest and greatest (sometimes the one that ships isn't so great and you can get newer builds in .deb format that you dpkg -i)
[05:06] <mindrape> matt___ bad... that is your problem...
[05:06] <ScottG489> PMT: btw when i enter "sudo hibernate" I get "hibernate:Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found."
[05:06] <mindrape> matt____ I recommend you             sudo wine msiexec /i ZBrushInstall.exe
[05:06] <matt___> mindrape I'll give that I try one sec
[05:07] <mindrape> msiexec is usually for installer files (even if they dont have an msi extention I've found it works better)
[05:07] <racecar56> why did ubuntu 6.04 LTS become 6.06 LTS
[05:08] <crdlb> racecar56: because it was delayed 6 weeks
[05:08] <crdlb> so it was released in June (month 6) instead of April (month 4)
[05:08] <matt___> mindrape terminal tells me .wine doesn't belong to me, I'll try again as root, one sec
[05:08] <hxz> 大家好
[05:09] <mindrape> matt___ your perms may be jacked.... ls -alh .wine          as regular user.     who owns it?
[05:09] <hxz> 有说中文的吗？
[05:09] <mindrape> !ch | hxz
[05:09] <syockit> !ch
[05:09] <syockit> !cn
[05:09] <mindrape> !chinese | hxz
[05:09] <mindrape> :P
[05:09] <mindrape> there is it. hah.
[05:09] <DaveWM> what would cause ubuntu to stick during start up?  while the status bar is up it just stops,  but it'll boot if i keep pressing keys on my keyboard like crazy,  does it off cd,  and after installation,  and i had the same issue with xubuntu ?
[05:09] <hxz> Hello
[05:09] <matt___> mindrape it says I do
[05:09] <mindrape> strange.
[05:10] <Guest51393> ok so who really wants to help me get my graphics card to work?
[05:10] <jordantbro> Hello
[05:10] <sifo> what is your vga?
[05:11] <matt___> mindrape I tried it as root, didn't run much of anything
[05:11] <adante> hey folks how dangerous is it to shrink an ext2 root partition nowadays?
[05:12] <Titan8990> adante, always backup
[05:12] <mindrape> matt___ well try this one.. http://slegrand.blogspot.com/2007/12/zbrush-3-working-under-ubuntu-linux.html
[05:12] <adante> Titan8990: yep, but obvious backup and restore is not that trivial, just trying to get an idea for what my chances of success vs pain are if i gave it a go
[05:12] <a8k> I wouldn't think that would be a problem, adante
[05:12] <adante> a8k: ok
[05:13] <matt___> mindrape already seen that, tried it, nothing. That seems to be to get the program itself to run, I can't even get the installer to finish
[05:14] <ScottG489> PMT: well, im going to bed, leave me a message and ill get it in the morning
[05:14] <racecar56> goodbye
[05:18] <jess> hey
[05:18] <mindrape> hi
[05:18] <racecar56> hi
[05:19] <Guest62036> really need help installing graphics driver
[05:19] <jess> nvidia or ati?
[05:19] <Guest62036> jess nvidia geforce 9500 gt
[05:20] <Guest62036> jess hardwarew drivers does not detectit
[05:20] <jess> Guest62036 did you use a envi?
[05:21] <Guest62036> jess probably not
[05:21] <Naisel> hi all
[05:21] <Guest62036> jess not sure what to do
[05:22] <Digital71> i recently upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, and i do not seem to have sound in the 2.6.27-9 kernel. i am somewhat unfamiliar with ubuntu's audio stack - could someone point me in the right direction to fix this?
[05:22] <mindrape> !alsa
[05:23] <Naisel> mindrape what is you problem with alsa
[05:23] <FactTech> !ddns
[05:23] <jess> Guest62036, http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:23] <racecar56> !oss
[05:23] <racecar56> lol
[05:23] <mindrape> Naisel - none... that was for Digital71
[05:23] <racecar56> !ossaudio
[05:23] <racecar56> !alsa
[05:23] <racecar56> !Players
[05:23] <racecar56> beep media player?
[05:23] <racecar56> lol
[05:23] <Naisel> ok
[05:23] <racecar56> !codecs
[05:24] <JesperHansen> !cpu
[05:25] <Pyles17> I'm trying to install the iwlwifi driver using the instructions here: http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=howto-iwlwifi
[05:25] <Pyles17> I'm having trouble with the download, build and install step. my output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/116328/
[05:25] <Naisel> ubottu what's your problem
[05:25] <Titan8990> Pyles17, those drivers a already in the kernel
[05:26] <FactTech> Question: Anyone know how to set up ddns on a local LAN?
[05:26] <mindrape> !dyndns
[05:26] <Naisel> FactTech what you mean about command or what
[05:26] <Pyles17> Titan8990: yeah, but mine isn't working. i thought i would try
[05:26] <mindrape> hrrmm... ubottu are you forgetting things?  I could have sworn you knew about that.
[05:27] <Guest62036> jess so how do i know wich envy to install?
[05:28] <FactTech> Naisel -- I have a machine acting as a shared connection to the internet. It's serving DHCP on a local LAN to do the sharing, but it doesn't resolve machine names on the local LAN. I want it to, and from what I'm reading, DDNS is what I want.
[05:28] <FactTech> Naisel -- So when a new machine gets assigned an IP address via DHCP, it will also get a name entry in the local DNS service.
[05:28] <Titan8990> !bind | facttech
[05:28] <Titan8990> !bind9 | facttech
[05:28] <albion> anyone have plugin for amsn sound?
[05:28] <Guest62036> anyone know how to determine which envy i need to use?
[05:28] <Digital71> mindrape: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.27-9-generic does not seem to exist for 8.10
[05:29] <Titan8990> !envy | Guest62036
[05:29] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- I've seen the name bind9 a few times. Is there any way to get this working using dnsmasq?
[05:29] <mindrape> Digital - try restricted instead of ubuntu in that.
[05:29] <garblesnarky> hlo
[05:29] <mca3> coco
[05:29] <garblesnarky> am i talking
[05:29] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- I'd rather not install new stuff if it's not needed.
[05:29] <Titan8990> FactTech, not sure, I do know that bind are the primary dns servers accross the internet
[05:29] <mindrape> garblesnarky no, you are typing.
[05:29] <garblesnarky> o boy i made it
[05:30] <Digital71> mindrape: bingo--but it's already installed then. moving on to next step
[05:30] <Titan8990> FactTech, what platform is your machine you want to have a nameserver?
[05:30] <FactTech> Titan8990 Xubuntu 8.10. It's using dnsmasq now -- I think that's what's issuing DHCP addresses under the hood.
[05:32] <Titan8990> FactTech, from what I just read, dns will serve and resolve names from your local hosts list
[05:32] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- It almost does what I want now... if I add lines to the /etc/hosts file, it will tell LAN clients the IP address in there. I just want this to work on a dynamic basis instead of static.
[05:32] <Titan8990> FactTech, dnsmasq I mean
[05:32] <Guest62036> after i install evy do i need to run it?
[05:32] <Titan8990> FactTech, dynamic will usually mean a lot of network chatter....
[05:32] <linxuz3r> anyone guys using ntfs-3g
[05:33] <mindrape> FactTech - on your clients why not just setup the DNS entries that the DHCP server has emplaced instead of them asking the DHCP server and it doing DNS for them?
[05:33] <FactTech> mindrape -- I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. You mean edit each machine's /etc/hosts?
[05:34] <bernz> linxuz3r, i'm using it to make the switch from xp to intrepid
[05:34] <mindrape> FactTech - cat /etc/resolv.conf         put in nameserver entries with that actual ISP nameserver...
[05:34] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- There aren't that many local LAN clients, so I don't think the chatter matters. dnsmasq is told not to forward anything for the local domain to the real nameservers.
[05:34] <juniecho> hello, a simple question, what is the simplist way to mount a filesystem with nice gui, in ubuntu intrepid?
[05:34] <mindrape> FactTech - otherwise you need to setup a caching nameserver like squid and it's just a hassle.
[05:35] <FactTech> mindrape -- Well, the real nameservers are my ISP. They don't know the names of local LAN client machines.
[05:35] <bernz> juniecho, it should be automatic in most cases if you are already in the gui shell (gnome)
[05:35] <mindrape> juniecho - there isn't... it will automount any detected filesystems for the most part... otherwise to config files for you.
[05:35] <FactTech> mindrape -- dnsmasq seems to be doing some caching OK already. It just doesn't seem to do dynamic dns.
[05:35] <mindrape> facttech - https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[05:36] <Titan8990> FactTech, you should be able to configure it to forward to real nameserver only if your ns doesn't contain an entry
[05:36] <juniecho> mindrape, bernz, well i mounted one ntfs partiton editing fstab, but it is not showing on the desktop... but when i browse to the folder i mounted the partition i can find all the files, can confirm it is mounted right
[05:36] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- Yes, I think it's doing that now. The clients aren't having any trouble reaching the outside world... just each other.
[05:37] <bernz> juniecho, suppose you insert a removable media (e.g. portable hd) into usb host port; it will shortly pop up an icon on the desktop representing the mounted volume
[05:37] <Titan8990> FactTech, so, it be a small network, why not just map it all out in the servers /etc/hosts?
[05:37] <mindrape> juniecho - so you just want to setup a symlink to it on your desktop?
[05:37] <mindrape> juniecho     cd ~/Desktop       ln -s /mnt/Windows     or something
[05:37] <juniecho> mindrape, i think so, can it be done automatically?
[05:38] <mindrape> juniecho - well if you go to Places menu does it show up?
[05:38] <jaxx2kde> Hi, is there any way I can find out what wireless drivers I am using?
[05:38] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- I build a lot of machines (get them on Freecycle, install Linux, and send them back out). I don't want to have to update the /etc/hosts every time I set up a new one.
[05:38] <mindrape> jaxx2kde - lspci -k         or sudo lshw -C network
[05:38] <Titan8990> juniecho, I believe it will only show on the desktop/places menu if you mount it to soemwhere in /media
[05:38] <bernz> juniecho, if you've already mounted the volume once, and you've put it in your fstab, you can 'mount -a' to ensure it's really mounted, and it will remount at next login
[05:38] <bernz> (and thereafter)
[05:38] <chuckc> i have a 3TB raid5 array that i am setting up LVM on.  with out knowing any better, I used the default PE Size when creating the volume group.  Now i want to change to size to 64MB but the change does seem to take, nor can i delete the volume group.  any advice?
[05:38] <juniecho> well i installed ubuntu via wubi, it shows only my windows partion(drive c), but not my actual data partition(drive d)
[05:38] <jaxx2kde> thanks
[05:38] <juniecho> titan8990, i mounted it to /media/DATA
[05:39] <Titan8990> FactTech, you could use a WINS server but its a old chatty protocol
[05:39] <FactTech> Titan8990 -- I may end up having to do set up static assignments for IP addresses by hostname and then put them all in /etc/hosts, though.
[05:39] <FactTech> mindrape -- Thanks for pointing to this resource. The 8.10 version looks like it may have relevant info.
[05:39] <bernz> your fstab line should feature a type indicator (on account of it being ntfs volume) and i believe 'auto' keyword
[05:39] <juniecho> when i go to /media/DATA, i can see all the files inside... i think it is mounted correctly, but it doesn't add icons to desktop or menu entry to places menu
[05:40] <bernz> oh, i misunderstood your question
[05:40] <juniecho> hehehe
[05:40] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: it says "kernel driver in use: wl"
[05:40] <bernz> then what mindrape suggested is good
[05:40] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: is this the B43 driver? i am using broadcom Bcm4311 card
[05:41] <FactTech> Titan8990, mindrape -- Maybe I'll just have to learn about bind9.
[05:41] <juniecho> bernz//the symbolic link...?
[05:41] <bernz> a link to the volume's mount point (the "root" of the volume)
[05:41] <FactTech> Titan8990, mindrape -- Thanks for the help, though.
[05:41] <bernz> juniecho, yep, the symbolic link
[05:41] <david_> I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10 and tried to install Edubuntu for my kids, but partly through it gives me the error    W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Edubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_  "then the package name and version" then at the end it says Hash Sum Mismatch, can someone please help me ?
[05:41] <juniecho> hmm i'm not friendly with console, can it be done via gui?
[05:41] <mindrape> jaxx2kde - pastebin your output from both of those commands and I'll tell you.
[05:41] <mindrape> david_ go into synaptic and setup the repos to not use the CD.
[05:41] <Titan8990> FactTech, DNS is not really dynamic....
[05:42] <Titan8990> FactTech, I don't think dns is going to be what you are looking for at all
[05:42] <david_> ok thank you
[05:42] <innni1> i am trying to add a higher resolution to my xorg.conf
[05:42] <bernz> juniecho, probably, TBH i've as yet not tried that very thing yet
[05:42] <david_> I'll give it a shot
[05:42] <bernz> let's give 'er a go
[05:42] <mindrape> david - in Synaptic go to Settings -> Repositories -> uncheck the cd
[05:42] <FactTech> david_ -- There may be a local cdrom software source you can remove.
[05:43] <juniecho> and one more thing... can i assign windows+e key to nautilus file manager?
[05:43] <david_> mindrape,  seems to be working it picked up where it left of thank you
[05:43] <Digital71> mindrape: any other suggestions?
[05:43] <cjae> how can I remove google earth properly, I have tried almost every ubuntu wiki availiable?
[05:43] <Digital71> mindrape: that was a no-go for me
[05:44] <Digital71> mindrape: i'm thinking i need to modprobe something here, but i don't know what
[05:44] <mindrape> Digital71 - are you the video card guy or wireless guy?
[05:44] <cjae> aside from using locate and deleting every instance of GE
[05:44] <Digital71> mindrape: audio
[05:44] <mindrape> ah.. heh.
[05:44] <Digital71> mindrape: sound stopped working after i started booting to the latest kernel
[05:44] <david_> my kids will be happy to have gcompris for my son and tuxmath for my daughter
[05:44] <mindrape> Digital71 - lspci -k       which driver are you using and what kind of card?
[05:44] <bernz> well, juniecho, the "create a shortcut" concept doesn't seem to have transferred well for people who are used to windows
[05:45] <mindrape> Digital71 - did you apt-get install the kernel modules? and restricted?
[05:45] <dfgas> what is the name of the program or the command to load it for the installer for ubuntu?
[05:45] <Digital71> mindrape: everything seems to have already been installed, did the full alsa reinstall also as suggested
[05:45] <Digital71> mindrape: getting lspci info now
[05:45] <TiZ> Hi. Weird question. When I'm in metacity, Ctrl+Alt+Left kills my X. Ctrl+Alt+Right does not. And they work fine in compiz. Any idea what's up?
[05:45] <bernz> IOW, i can't find an obvious GUI way to create a symlink without actually searching hard
[05:45] <cjae> tried this sudo rm -r /usr/local/google-earthsudo rm /usr/local/bin/googleearth
[05:45] <nomingzi> where can I publish my screenshot on a website temporary ? what is the URL for me to store the picture temporary ?
[05:45] <mindrape> cjae - did you build it from source or dpkg -i it?
[05:46] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: http://pastebin.com/d62483b94
[05:46] <mindrape> cjae - dpkg can remove it if it was a package install
[05:46] <juniecho> bernz: well i successfully created a shortcut, thanks... but there is one more thing, i am trying to assign windows+e short key to bring nautilus file manager, but i think i'm doing something wrong, it didn't work... where should i start
[05:46] <FactTech> david_ -- You know Edubuntu is a full-fledged Ubuntu variant, right? You could probably have just installed the gcompris and tux packages on your existing Ubuntu.
[05:46] <cjae> mindrape: apt
[05:46] <Digital71> mindrape: http://pastebin.com/m47a00cb2
[05:46] <mindrape> cjae - and apt-get remove left remnants about?
[05:46] <Digital71> mindrape:  snd-hda-intel is what i see at a glance
[05:46] <cjae> mindrape: I tried sudo apt-get purge google earth
[05:46] <FactTech> david_ - Not a big deal, but FYI for future reference.
[05:47] <cjae> mindrape: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth#head-c1c56a1bb75c740a3a33269b946d931272b451f6 all the steps in here
[05:47] <mindrape> Digital71 - yes, can you pull up a terminal and type            sudo alsamixer       and make sure all the sound levels are at max?
[05:47] <david_> does anyone here use  the VIA unichrome integrated graphics chipset? I was wondering if anyone successfully got 3D acceleration to work, and how, ive to VIA arena and installed there drivers and the latest openchrome drivers and still no 3D
[05:47] <bernz> juniecho, that's a good q; i would probably check the FAQs at ubuntu HQ, or maybe Websearch for "faq ubuntu windows keys" or something similar
[05:47] <cjae> mindrape: all the steps here http://www.ehow.com/how_2279483_uninstall-google-earth-ubuntu.html
[05:47] <mindrape> cjae - dunno man... odd.  I'd try dpkg -remove if apt-get is being childish and stupid.
[05:48] <Digital71> mindrape: it's all 100%
[05:48] <cjae> mindrape: I think I have to go through with locate and manually delete but will try dpkg first
[05:48] <Aperture_Science> Scunizi, I got it working! :3
[05:48] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: http://pastebin.com/m47a00cb2 that has the output from both.. thanks :)
[05:48] <bernz> david_, i'll be trying that eventually (maybe), but the target platform has a dead BIOS at the moment, and i'm awaiting a programmer in the mail
[05:49] <mindrape> jaxx2kde-  looking...
[05:49] <juniecho> bernz// correct me if i'm wrong but i tried compiz settings manager - general options - commands, and then assigned command line 0 to 'nautilus' and run command 0 key to <super>e. is this right?
[05:49] <bernz> david_, from what i've read, the unichrome support is quite far along, but i haven't actually seen it with my own eyes yet  ;-)
[05:49] <chuckc> sdfffjkl
[05:49] <mindrape> jaxx2kde - it appears its loaded the driver and you have an IP address... you cant ping google.com?
[05:50] <david_> my son really wants to play some of the mmorpg's but can't, not with the frame rates that i get
[05:50] <bernz> juniecho, sorry, i'm not acquainted with compiz yet  ;-/
[05:50] <david_> glxgears  is at like 70 or something close
[05:50] <mindrape> david_ you should really consider a Windows partition if you want to do gaming
[05:50] <juniecho> bernz: yeah thanks :)
[05:51] <Digital71> mindrape: any insight?
[05:51] <chuckc> is there a 9.04 room?
[05:51] <Titan8990> david_, some mmorpgs work alright in wine, may need a hardware upgrade though
[05:51] <david_> MS? hahha I'm trying to leave the whole corporate scene
[05:51] <bernz> david_, 70 is pretty respectable, given human vision limitations  :-)
[05:51] <cjae> mindrape: is it safe it delete all the googleearth folders? like the ones in /var /opt and such?
[05:51] <mindrape> Digital71 - can we rule out the obvious that you've ensured the speakers are plugged into the right port?
[05:51] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: oh i'm sorry if i forgot to mention.. the wireless is working fine i was trying to install aircrack and i read that i need to install the B43 drivers for the broadcom card i have. i just wanted to know if i need to install the B43 drivers or i already have them
[05:51] <Digital71> mindrape: it's a laptop
[05:51] <mindrape> cjae - if you want to get rid of it and they are clearly marked as such I don't see why it would hurt.
[05:52] <cjae> mindrape: ok
[05:52] <mindrape> Digital71 - ah.. hah.  Lemme look a lil more.
[05:52] <juniecho> can someone help me with shortcut key mapping? <super>e key combination is actually not working.
[05:52] <david_> I can't even get TUX cart to work its so lsow and choppy cause VIA hasn't released a linux driver yet
[05:52] <bernz> david_, if you still have valid windows licenses, mindrape's suggestion is good.  nothing beats the real target platform ;-)
[05:52] <bernz> (after all, it won't cost you any more, and you've already paid)
[05:53] <david_> yeah, but that is already running on another computer
[05:53] <cjae> mindrape: /var/lib/dpkg/info/googleearth-4.2-data.list is an example, this is safe to del?
[05:53] <david_> Windows is to expensive for me
[05:53] <dfgas> what is the name of the program or the command to load it for the installer for ubuntu?
[05:53] <cjae> mindrape: since dpkg didn't work
[05:53] <mindrape> Digital71 - can you try to modprobe snd-intel8x0m
[05:53] <Digital71> mindrape: one second
[05:54] <bernz> juniecho, because i'm feeling curious, i'm going to read a bit about compiz, and maybe we can figure out your problem (and then maybe karma/god/whatever-you-believe-in-including-nothing will give me some payback so i can get my mobo-usb-hosts-mysteriously-aren't-there problem fixed :-D )
[05:54] <jaxx2kde> mindrape:
[05:54] <mindrape> 'cause I seem to have the same sound card as you and thats what I have.
[05:54] <Digital71> mindrape: seems to have had no effect
[05:54] <juniecho> bernz : thanks hehe
[05:54] <mindrape> jaxx2kde - ah... yes you have them.  You need to put your card in monitor mode, not managed I believe to do sniffing. :)
[05:55] <mindrape> Digital71 - you may need to rmmod the snd-hda-intel ones.
[05:55] <nexxt> Hello i just installed 2.6.29-rc3, but i can get the linux headers to recompile my sound, build fails
[05:55] <mindrape> Digital71 - lspci -k will tell you which ones are actually being used (many could be loaded)
[05:55] <Digital71> mindrape: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[05:55] <david_> Can anyone sugggest a decent video card that just works with no tinkering?
[05:55] <mindrape> Digital71 - sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel
[05:56] <cjae> mindrape: http://pastebin.ca/1332417
[05:56] <nexxt> Hello i just installed 2.6.29-rc3, but i can get the linux headers to recompile my sound, build fails?
[05:56] <mindrape> david_ I've had good success w most nvidia cards... you can check hardware compatability lists on ubuntu.com
[05:56] <Digital71> mindrape: same thing, in use
[05:56] <bernz> hmm, compiz sounds neato :-)
[05:57] <mindrape> Digital71 - ps aux and look for something that could be using it.  There is probably also an lsof way to look for it (lsof = ls of open files)
[05:57] <juniecho> bernz// sorry i fixed it, by changing command line 0 from 'nautilus' to 'nautilus /home/celestial'
[05:57] <nexxt> Hello i just installed 2.6.29-rc3, but i can get the linux kernel headers for 2.6.29-rc3 so that i can  recompile my sound, build fails?
[05:58] <skeletal> guys, i installed my ubuntu in this moment. But, when I go to use NMAP it dosn't work - show message: there aren't open ports. Why?
[05:58] <Titan8990> nexxt, you mena you compiled your own 2.6.29 vanilla kernel?
[05:58] <nexxt> yah hi again Titan
[05:58] <nexxt> Linux zomg 2.6.29-rc3-vanillaice #2 SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 9 23:55:21 EST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:58] <bernz> juniecho, right on, and now you've piqued my curiosity for compiz. thank you :-)
[05:58] <Titan8990> nexxt, kernel headers is a mysterious ubuntu thing. you just use the kernel source which should by symlinked to /usr/src/linux
[05:58] <mindrape> skeletal - probably because you are running a secure boxen?
[05:59] <juniecho> bernz// quiet strange because when i just run 'nautilus' with alt+f2 it automatically opens my home folder, can't figure why it is different with compiz shortcut thing.. :)
[05:59] <mindrape> skeletal - try sudo nmap <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[05:59] <Digital71> mindrape; laptop    7861  0.0  0.0   3236   808 pts/1    S+   23:59   0:00 grep snd-hda-intel
[05:59] <jaxx2kde> mindrape: thanks
[05:59] <Titan8990> nexxt, forget the package manager, the things that you listed should be compiled in your kernel config
[05:59] <nexxt> titan so what should i do
[05:59] <nexxt> i was trying to install ossv4
[05:59] <nexxt> only thing that works for my sound card
[05:59] <Titan8990> nexxt, it should be in the kernel config
  doesn't work.
[06:00] <Titan8990> nexxt, device drivers -> sound devices -> oss
[06:00] <Titan8990> nexxt, something like that in make menuconfig
[06:00] <mindrape> Digital71 try to           lsof | grep "snd"
[06:00] <nexxt> Titan its already compiled
[06:00] <nexxt> why cant i just grab the header files
[06:00] <nexxt> and recompile oss
[06:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, ....
[06:01] <mindrape> skeletal - can you pastebin the exact output?  We may need you to install strace then strace nmap to see where the point of failure is.
[06:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, you are not doing things the ubuntu way
[06:01] <TiZ> Hi. Ctrl+Alt+Left is killing my X server when I'm in metacity. Can anyone help me figure out why?
[06:01] <bernz> juniecho, generally, there is a "unix way" for unix-like systems, but each application is free to do their own thing in the end, so often only the "famous commands" (cut/copy/paste, quit, cancel, etc) become "written in stone"  :-D
[06:01] <nexxt> ubuntu didnt werk :p
[06:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, you are doing things the general linux way
[06:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, you use the actual kernel source
[06:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, and you compile the module using make modules_install
[06:02] <nexxt> err but arnt other things i want to compile going to require the kernel headers
[06:02] <nexxt> down the round?
[06:02] <nexxt> road*
[06:02] <Titan8990> nexxt, ubuntu has not created header files for that kernel yet
[06:02] <Titan8990> nexxt, you won't be able to use synaptic for those things
[06:02] <juniecho> hmm so you mean it is natural?
[06:03] <nexxt> so i have to recompile kernel?
[06:03] <mindrape> Digital71 - did it work?
[06:03] <Titan8990> nexxt, it is why ubuntu wikis recommend nt compiling your own kernels
 Starting Nmap 4.62 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-02-10 03:53 BRST
[06:03] <skeletal> All 1715 scanned ports on 13-1-12-200.provider.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) are closed
[06:03] <b3z3rk3r> Does anyone know if all Steam games work now?
[06:03] <Titan8990> nexxt, yes, but gcc is smart and will only recompile what you change
[06:03] <Titan8990> nexxt, unless you do make clean or make mrproper
[06:03] <mindrape> skeletal - then its working... you just aren't running anything as your firewall has them locked down.
[06:03] <Titan8990> nexxt, which some do everytime....
[06:03] <bernz> juniecho, yes, programs are often a reflection of their principal authors' natures, and so they vary in the same way ;-)
 What can I now?
[06:03] <nexxt> hmmm
[06:03] <mindrape> skeletal - if you want you can open something up... go to System -> Administration -> Services and turn something on that will open a network port like SSH or FTP.
[06:04] <juniecho> hmm yeah ;) anyway i got the key working quite happy now :)
[06:04] <JesperHansen> Do you actually have to make a launchpad account to let apport upload its stuff?
[06:04] <mindrape> skeletal - also check iptables -L to make sure you aren't FULLY locked down (despite services running)
[06:04] <bernz> (and no one can explain the deep mysteries of why programmers do certain weird things like choosing their own non-standard key bindings (AKA shortcuts), or capitalize every word in a sentence in comments, etc :-) )
[06:04] <TiZ> Hi. Ctrl+Alt+Left is killing my X server when I'm in metacity. Can anyone help me figure out why?
[06:04] <mindrape> bernz - actually I can explain that...
[06:04] <mindrape> bernz - it's called "ego"
[06:05] <nexxt> Titan : what a headache
[06:05] <Digital71> mindrape: should i kill every process accessing it then?
[06:05] <b3z3rk3r> What is the situation with Steam currently???
[06:05] <kriyas> how to writer shell program in ruby
[06:05] <bernz> mindrape, too right... hmm... you destroyed the drama, the mystery... shame on you!  ;-)
[06:05] <mindrape> Digital71 - yes... if you want to free it up.  Alternatively you could blacklist it in your modprobe config and reboot so it can't load.
[06:05] <mindrape> kriyas try #ruby this is general ubuntu help.
[06:05] <sony> hi
[06:05] <mindrape> kriyas - also #bash has some good tutorials for general shell scripting (ruby can leverage that info)
[06:05] <mindrape> hi sony
[06:06] <juniecho> mindrape, bernz, is it really like that...? :)
[06:06] <bernz> juniecho, if you keep a blog or whatever, your problem and solution are an excellent thing to make public :-)
[06:06] <Digital71> mindrape: success, i've rmmodded it
[06:06] <mindrape> :)
[06:06] <mindrape> Digital71 - now lspci -k and see if the snd_ one I told you to modprobe is actually in use.
[06:06] <mindrape> Digital71 - you may wanna rmmod it then re-modprobe if its confused.  :)
[06:06] <juniecho> hmm yeah, not many people are using linux in south korea so yeah, maybe if i keep some blog people will find out more about this
[06:07] <sony> هل يوجد عرب هنا ؟
[06:07] <bernz> juniecho, unfortunately, yes -- it can sometimes make teamwork difficult, as many programmers are insecure about letting go of their way of doing things ;-) it's hard to convince us you've thought of a better way than we have  ;-)
[06:07] <TiZ> Hi. Ctrl+Alt+Left is killing my X server when I'm in metacity. Can anyone help me figure out why?
[06:07] <juniecho> one day i started linux in my school and showed compiz desktop to friends and they were all like ... 'what the heck is that awesome?'
[06:08] <bernz> like those guys who start optimizing before they've finished designing ;-)
[06:08] <bernz> pure comedy gold
[06:08] <Digital71> mindrape: lspci -k still shows snd-hda-intel, even after rmmoding and modprobing and re rmmoding
[06:09] <juniecho> bernz// why the heck do they start optimizing before they've finished designing?
[06:09] <mindrape> Digital71 - try modprobe -r snd_hda_intel
[06:09] <Titan8990> juniecho, i work with programmers, and they do......
[06:09] <bernz> juniecho, hehe, it sounds like you're setting me up for a joke. but to answer, they are "young" and haven't learned wisdom yet.  seriously.  it sounds silly, like karate kid or whatever, but... they are just too eagere
[06:09] <bernz> eager even
[06:09] <juniecho> bernz// won't it all change when the designing is finished and won't they be forced to re-optimize everything :)
[06:10] <bernz> but that energy is good if channelled in a good direction :-]
[06:10] <bernz> juniecho, i think secretly, that's part of the goal/attraction
[06:10] <TiZ> Hi. Ctrl+Alt+Left is killing my X server when I'm in metacity. Can anyone help me figure out why?
[06:10] <w4g3n3r> Anyone know how to connect to a sonicwall vpn?
[06:10] <bernz> (another chance to rewrite... it's as fun as playing with lego -- but shhh, don't tell anyone i said that ;-)
[06:10] <jwbrase> I've created a bit of a bootloader problem for myself. I've got a dual boot set up: XP/Ubuntu via Wubi. The machine was booting up through the Windows bootloader, which would default to Windows and gave me about a fifteen second time limit to choose Ubuntu. I wanted to change this, so I tried installing Start-up Manager.
[06:10] <mindrape> TiZ - System -> Prefs -> Keyboard shortcuts
[06:10] <Digital71> mindrape: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel does not exist in /proc/modules - yet it still claims to be active in lspci
[06:11] <juniecho> yeah :) well i used ubuntu 8.04 before, and i wiped out the entire partition and started wubi... i think it got more decent :) nice thing
[06:11] <bernz> nice, i don't even know what wubi is... i'm approaching the whole linux thing backwards, kinda (i started with slackware around 97, and now i'm just finally trying ubuntu as of 2 week ago)
[06:12] <bernz> (that is to say, i went for "insane" first, and "morphine-like" last/latest)
[06:12] <racecar56> wubi is to install linux on windows
[06:12] <bernz> cool, that sounds like a good tool
[06:12] <mindrape> Digital71 - lsmod | grep "snd" it show up?
[06:13] <juniecho> bernz: it is for installing ubuntu inside windows... create a virtual disk file instead of dedicated partition. other than that everything is same with just normal ubuntu installation
[06:13] <jwbrase> However, startup manager only affects the GRUB bootloader. So I looked up the Wubi FAQ to figure out what bootloader Wubi used.
[06:13] <bernz> (and in between, i was comatose on windows for a few years)
[06:13] <cjae> mindrape: wow that took a long time but got it all thanks, hooray for rm
[06:13] <mindrape> :)
[06:13] <bernz> juniecho, cool, that's a good description
[06:13]  * cjae kicks box in hopes to hurt apt-get
[06:13] <bernz> like a live install, without the reboot ;-)
[06:14] <mindrape> cjae - next time I'll teach you how to locate then pipe the results to rm..  :o
[06:14] <cjae> mindrape: ok thanks, would be appreicated
[06:14] <Digital71> mindrape: hold on, i'm having some sort of memory leak all a sudden
[06:14] <mindrape> Digital71 - maybe your best bet is to head over to /etc/modprobe.d/ and add an entry to the blacklist for that module, reboot, then modprobe (sorry its so lame)
[06:15] <juniecho> bernz: yeah one more good thing is that it is much more easier to back up ubuntu installation, just boot into windows and copy root.disk file to somewhere else... because it contains entire ubuntu installation, when ubuntu is screwed up for some reason ... just overwrite it with backup copy and it is all reverted like you did some norton ghost thing
[06:15] <jwbrase> Turned out it was the Windows bootloader, and I had to go to Control Panel ->  System -> advanced -> startup and recovery
[06:16] <DeadDrive> Well, this is fun.
[06:16] <bernz> juniecho, oh, that *is* pretty sweet indeed!
[06:16] <racle> hey, i just installed kubuntu, and i can't set 1680x1050 resolution. tryed to configure xorg.conf, but bad results, any help?
[06:17] <racecar56> dang my server cd burning isnt working... well goodbye everyone
[06:17] <Digital71> mindrape: ok, i can handle blacklisting snd-hda-intel. what's my objective afterwards?
[06:17] <racecar56> !welcome | all
[06:17] <mindrape> Digital71 - modprobe the one I told you and cross your fingers...
[06:17] <racecar56> woot it works
[06:17] <DeadDrive> Have a dying HDD, ran disk checker and fixed all the errors, ran it again and came up with none. Now I can't boot to desktop. If I hit esc and try to boot the recovery it gives me errors about not being able to mount /proc and /system or somethingl ike that.
[06:17] <bernz> racle, have you checked if you need special drivers for your hardware, and if they are starting up correctly?
[06:17] <DeadDrive> Looks like I'm going to have to do a fresh install on a new hdd :(
[06:17] <juniecho> jwbrase: did you try checking boot.ini file  :)
[06:17] <racle> bernz, just installed ati's closed source drivers
[06:18] <racle> bernz, and rebooted my pc
[06:18] <bernz> racle, okay, do other "exotic" modes work (higher or lower), but just not that one?
[06:18] <kavitha> #mplayer
[06:18] <racle> bernz. yes, 1600x1200 work, but that is too high resolution
[06:18] <DeadDrive> If I were to copy sda1 to another drive and put that in as sda1 you think it would boot right?
[06:19] <racle> and 1400x1050 works, i am using that now
[06:19] <adante> hi guys where's the normal place to put source packages you want to build for your system?
[06:19] <juniecho> jwbrase: i switched to vista long time ago so i may be incorrect but you can configure windows xp bootloader by editing c:\boot.ini most of the time i think ;)
[06:19] <DeadDrive> Wait, nevermind. I'd have to fix my boot problem first anyway :(
[06:19] <bernz> DeadDrive, the OS would notice that it's a different physical drive, but if you've mirrored it onto a similar drive (same geometry), it should be okay
[06:20] <bernz> (provided the drive is currently completely readable/fixable-readable)
[06:20] <racle> bernz, my current xorg.conf
[06:20] <racle> bernz, my current xorg.conf http://notepad.solonen.arkku.net/?action=lue_muistiinpano&muistiinpano_id=16
[06:20] <DeadDrive> bernz, thanks. Think I want to do a clean install anyway. Throw on 8.10 and that will also get rid of some crap like ie4linux I had to install to apply for a job.
[06:20] <bernz> racle, are you using an LCD/plasma/other-bigscreen, or an actual monitor (and LCD or CRT (doubtful))?
[06:20] <kavitha> where shall i get mplayer which uses SDL library?
[06:20] <juniecho> ah one thing bernz, it is possible to get a device driver in a .deb package?
[06:20] <racle> bernx, TFT
[06:21] <mindrape> juniecho - sure...
[06:21] <racle> bernz, Wiht vga
[06:21] <kavitha> source code
[06:21] <racle> with*
[06:21] <kavitha> mplayer browser plugin
[06:21] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker db for ubuntu gutsy
[06:21]  * mindrape stares at bruenig and contemplates a don't IRC as root rant...
[06:21] <racle> bernz, Benw 21.6" WIDE :P
[06:21] <racle> benq*
[06:22] <DeadDrive> Hmmmm, this is going to be fun. I gave my boot CD to my brother in law and am using kubuntu cd right now.
[06:22] <DeadDrive> I'll have to install kubuntu, burn ubuntu and then reinstall
[06:22] <bernz> racle, and (just in case) -- has this same display worked at that resolution before (say on a different OS or a different distro of linux)?
[06:22]  * DeadDrive laugh
[06:22] <bruenig> mindrape: mind your own business moron
[06:22] <kavitha> #SDL
[06:22] <juniecho> mindrape: when i used ubuntu 8.04, i had to manually compile the driver so every kernel update made me crazy(had to re-compile everything) so i heard, with package installation i don't have to do that anymore. i want to enable wacom tablet driver but i can't find it (i'm using hp tx2000 tablet pc)
[06:22] <mindrape> bruenig - were you born retarded or did you work at it?
[06:22] <racle> bernz, in windows, yeah, linux no, tryed this same kubuntu couple weeks ago
[06:23] <racle> at windows you have to unselect "dont show unsupported screen modes"
[06:23] <DeadDrive> Wow, people still use the root account?
[06:23] <bruenig> mindrape: how many times did you need to be dropped on your head to think that user_name means anything in irc
[06:23] <mindrape> bruenig - well most people dont waste their time setting up identd to give fake root responses...
[06:23] <bernz> racle, okay, well -- x is big and complicated; your config file looks "okay", but very very terse; no mention of special drivers or whatever, which is usually required for "exotic" hardware (like ATI and nVidia accelerated stuff)
[06:23] <bruenig> DeadDrive: yeah people who don't use ubuntu
[06:24] <mindrape> but once again maybe I'm underestimating your tardness...
[06:24] <bernz> racle, i would suggest (painful as it is) reading a tutorial on X11 configuration so you can see how to wedge your special driver in
[06:24] <racle> benz, any idea how i reconfigure that? i just copyed that from internet
[06:24] <regeya> bruenig: believe it or not, on this server, you will get a kickban from channels for having root as your ident
[06:24] <bruenig> mindrape: perhaps if you had ever used something other than your bloated gui garbage, you would recognize the ease of establishing a username
[06:24] <racle> bernz, okay
[06:24] <regeya> Debian would be one of them
[06:24] <bernz> racle, it's often as easy as a single line (well, a few, one each in a few places)
[06:24] <regeya> also, !offtopic
[06:24] <mindrape> bruenig - GUI?  I'm in CLI only... nice try though.
[06:25] <bruenig> mindrape: yeah you sound like it using a shitsro like this
[06:25] <DeadDrive> Guess I need to get to work swapping drives and reinstalling.
[06:25] <bernz> racle, i have, on this laptop which i'm using ATM, a funky video card also; i can see if i can get at my X config, to give you some hints
[06:25] <juniecho> mindrape: one thing is that when i boot into ubuntu i see something about wacom... does it mean ubuntu already has the right driver?
[06:25]  * sykopomp grabs popcorn
[06:25] <sykopomp> Ferrenrock: want some?
[06:25] <mindrape> juniecho - that is just dmesg output... but yes, probably.  lsmod | grep "wacom"
[06:26] <underdog`> I came to see what the commotion was about.
[06:26] <Ferrenrock> sykopomp: why thank you good sir
[06:26] <sykopomp> bruenig: fail. Where's the flamefest? You promised lulz.
[06:26] <racle> bernz, that would be great help
[06:26] <c_nick> when i log into the IRC chat..my friends get my ip address.. say<EMAIL_ADDRESS>something like this.. can i change tht
[06:26] <kavitha> #plugin
[06:26] <sykopomp> c_nick: get a hostmask. Go ask in #freenode about it.
[06:26] <juniecho> mindrape, it doesn't display anything
[06:27] <bruenig> embarrassed mindrape is embarrassed
[06:27] <mindrape> oh?  how is that?
[06:27] <swtaarrs> can anyone recommend an mpg editor that can handle 40+GB files? I've tried GOPchop and it doesn't work too well
[06:27] <mindrape> btw bruenig, this isn't 4chan so leave your memes at the door...
[06:27] <bruenig> mindrape: I know, this is linux daycare
[06:27] <juniecho> mindrape: but when ubuntu boots up it says ... i don't remember correctly, but i think it was 'configuring' wacom or something like that
[06:28] <mindrape> juniecho - dmesg | less
[06:28] <sykopomp> mindrape: lololo this channel is over9000 amirite?
[06:28] <bernz> racle, it's worth mentioning also that i had to install a sort of "patch" program for my funky video card, not quite a driver, but more an adjustment to the driver if i recall correctly
[06:28] <bernz> you might need something like that also
[06:28] <racle> bernz, modeline-command cames to screen part?
[06:28] <Ferrenrock> sykopomp: yo dawg, we heard you like #ubuntu, so we turned it into 4chan
[06:28] <juniecho> ...oh it is a lot... do you want to see it?
[06:28] <mindrape> skyopomp - yes, just dont accidentally the whole channel.
[06:28] <racle> found some internet calculator thing :P
[06:29] <sykopomp> mindrape: lolololol Y HALLO THAR
[06:29] <juniecho> mindrape: it is too long, never ending :) how can i show you this
[06:29] <sykopomp> WHAT?! NINE THOUSAND?
[06:29] <bernz> racle, sorry, i'm not sure i understand; can you rephrase your last question?
[06:29] <sykopomp> mindrape: I bet you can't triforce.
[06:29] <mindrape> juniecho - pastebinit... sudo apt-get install :)
[06:29] <G-Blunted> What is the path to the Terminal application??
[06:29] <juniecho> mindrape : sudo apt-get install pastebinit?
[06:29] <mindrape> skyopomp - you would be wrong... sadly I can do that and so much more.
[06:29] <kavitha> where shall i get any video player which uses SDL library?
[06:30] <racle> bernz, at xorg, there is modeline selection, it's inside section ad identifier, devie etc.
[06:30] <juniecho> one problem: dmesg doesn't let me go
[06:30] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, try:  which gnome-terminal
[06:30] <mindrape> kavitha - vlc-plugin-sdl I believe VLC is amazing.
[06:30] <mindrape> juniecho - type q
[06:30] <sykopomp> mindrape: prove it. Triforce now or you're FAIL
[06:30] <bernz> haha, tri-force... reminds me of legend of neil.  true art.
[06:30] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, most likely it is /usr/bin and already in your $PATH
[06:30] <mindrape> juniccho - dmesg | pastebinit         once you got it installed.
[06:30] <sykopomp> megaFAIL
[06:30] <juniecho> mindrape: oh thanks :)
[06:31] <Ferrenrock> sykopomp: YOU CAN'T TRIFORCE IN IRSSI
[06:31] <bruenig> I can swastikaforce
[06:31] <Ferrenrock> oooh
[06:31] <bruenig> but only on 911chan
[06:31] <G-Blunted> i'm trying to set a hotkey to bring up Terminal window when im in X here..
[06:31] <Ferrenrock> let's see it
[06:31] <mindrape> bruenig - when you IRC as root you IRC with Hitler...
[06:31] <G-Blunted> is there already a hotkey for that actually??
[06:31] <sykopomp> I don't use irssi, only command-line nerds use irssi. I use Pidgin for IRC :)
[06:31] <Digital71> mindrape: even with it blacklisted, it's /still/ in lspci.
[06:31] <juniecho> mindrape: i think it is set, what should i do next
[06:31] <Ferrenrock> sykopomp: holla
[06:31] <Digital71> mindrape: however, rmmodding it shows that it is not running - and alsamixer fails
[06:31] <Ferrenrock> seriously
[06:31] <mindrape> Digital71 - it's the undead module... kill it with fire.
[06:31] <Digital71> mindrape: haha, good one
[06:31] <bruenig> mindrape: go back to your obama campaign meetup and leave the channel to the grown ups
[06:31] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, don't think so, the command is:  gnome-terminal
[06:32] <G-Blunted> Titan8990,  that came up blank
[06:32] <Ferrenrock> bruenig: go back to your nig
[06:32] <sykopomp> bruenig: at least he's not a MACAIN supporter lololo
[06:32] <mindrape> bruenig - you fail at trolling.
[06:32] <bruenig> olololo
[06:32] <sykopomp> mindrape: he does, it's true
[06:32] <bruenig> good point sykopomp
[06:32] <Titan8990> G-Bleezy, which gnome-terminal did?
[06:32] <racle> bernz, i try restart xorg, be right back
[06:32] <juniecho> !offtopic | bruenig
[06:32] <sykopomp> bruenig: ur a macain suporter, aren't u?
[06:32] <mindrape> !offtopic | bruenig
[06:32] <rdw200169> sykopomp, whoah, haus
[06:32] <bruenig> juniecho: don't use pidgin to irc
[06:32] <Ferrenrock> yeah bruenig, quit being offtopic
[06:32] <G-Blunted> Titan8990,  i just typed:   which gnome-terminal  and it came up blank
[06:32] <Digital71> mindrape: i modprobed intel8x0m, but alsamixer failed with it
[06:32] <bernz> racle, okay
[06:32] <bruenig> !hi | mindrape
[06:33] <mindrape> !offtopic > bruenig
[06:33] <Digital71> mindrape: modprobed snd-hda-intel back in, and alsamixer works
[06:33] <Digital71> mindrape: but still no sound
[06:33] <mindrape> yay
[06:33] <sykopomp> !offtopic > bruenig
[06:33] <mindrape> boo
[06:33] <bruenig> mindrape: you should be more worried about the people using pidgin to irc than me, that is the real crime
[06:33] <Ferrenrock> what? I didn't get a private message
[06:33] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, which xterm
[06:33] <juniecho> bruenig: sorry, pidgin it the only client i know for irc :)
[06:33] <G-Blunted> ahh xterm
[06:33] <Ferrenrock> bruenig: I use pidgin to IRC, and I use openoffice to code
[06:33] <G-Blunted> got it
[06:33] <sykopomp> is it true that ubuntu is good for programming java or do I need to buy a license?
[06:33] <mindrape> bruenig - your CLI zealotry has become quite asinine, presumptuous, and tiresome... and I decided to tell you about it.
[06:34] <sykopomp> !offtopic > bruenig
[06:34] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, xterm isn't the same as gome-terminal but it works
[06:34] <Ferrenrock> mindrape: someone had to
[06:34] <bruenig> !compiling > sykopomp
[06:34] <underdog`> I'd like some ass at nine. And ten and eleven. Maybe twelve.
[06:34] <sykopomp> but u don't compile java
[06:34] <kavitha> where shall i get any video player which uses SDL library?
[06:34] <juniecho> mindrape, i installed pastebinit, so how do i ...
[06:34] <mindrape> kavitha - sudo apt-get install VLC
[06:34] <bruenig> well nothing can compare to gnome-terminal, but they can still try, amirite
[06:34] <sykopomp> bruenig: im asking about java not c++
[06:34] <bernz> re racle, any luck?
[06:34] <sykopomp> you don't compile java so that obottu thing doesn't work
[06:35] <mindrape> juniecho - man pastebinit           just pipe stuff to it via the magic of a pipe |
[06:35] <racle> bernz, now i see that 1680x1050, but that screws screen/:
[06:35] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker db for ubuntu gutsy
[06:35] <bruenig> !automatix > sykopomp
[06:35] <dutch> can anyone help me with pulseaudio? it all seems to be working perfectly server-wise, but no sound for some reason...
[06:35] <dutch> fresh intrepid install
[06:35] <sykopomp> bruenig: pls stop spamming me
[06:35] <racle> that takes ~40 pixels cut from bottom of screen
[06:35] <mindrape> !welcome | bruenig
[06:35] <bruenig> !ohmy | sykopomp
[06:35] <sykopomp> bruenig: are all ubuntu users complete jerks like you?
[06:35] <prince_jammys> if someone here has the video card Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE, and is running ubuntu hardy, and has no graphic problems, i'd appreciate if you could paste your xorg.conf
[06:35] <kavitha> mindrape: i need source code
[06:35] <bernz> racle, you mean the screen goes all weird or says "incompatible format" or some similar error?
[06:35] <bruenig> !nickspam | sykopomp
[06:35] <mindrape> kavitha - google
[06:35] <sykopomp> bruenig: ubuntu sounds like a evry bad community, why do you guys are mean?
[06:35] <juniecho> mindrape: hmm then is it like... pastebinit dmesg | less?
[06:36] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker db for ubuntu gutsy
[06:36] <rubydiamond> deb
[06:36] <mindrape> bruenig - http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=you+sir+are+and+idiot
[06:36] <sykopomp> mindrape: thats not nice you dont have to lower urself to his level
[06:36] <sykopomp> mindrape: your a nice ubunter
[06:36] <bruenig> that is really just over the line
[06:36] <bruenig> !ops | mindrape
[06:36] <racle> bernz, no, i mean that screen is "too big" so you cant see yout taskbar well
[06:37] <sykopomp> !ops | bruenig
[06:37]  * regeya facepalm
[06:37] <sykopomp> dont listen to him ops he's only lying
[06:37] <nickrud> all of you just chill out
[06:37] <zoL> quickest/easiet way to format a hdd?
[06:37] <sykopomp> mindrap didnt do anything bad
[06:37] <zoL> i'm a retard
[06:37] <dutch> would anyone be able to help me with some pulseaudio configuration?
[06:38] <bernz> racle, hmm, so you mean parts of the screen (like top and bottom, or sides) and "cut off" (invisible/beyond edge of screen)
[06:38] <G-Blunted> How do you find out what hotkey combinations aren't already binded...or supposed to do something?? I'm mapping new shortcuts and i don't want to overwrite one that's already there! How can i prevent this??
[06:38] <racle> bernz, yeah
[06:38] <Digital71> sykopomp: that guy was helping a lot of people...
[06:39] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, if you are doin it in compiz it will tell you if your hotkeys conflict with another
[06:39] <bernz> racle, hmm... that's tricky... your monitor is supposed to be "smart" and figure out how to contain the whole image, but... sometimes it can't. does your monitor have an "auto-detect" kind of button?
[06:39] <juniecho> mindrape : ohhh yeahhh!!! finally got it, http://pastebin.com/f56c424b3
[06:39] <mindrape_> hello
[06:39] <Madpilot> mindrape_, are you ban dodging now?
[06:39] <bernz> (maybe it can readjust itself after the new mode is set -- sometimes, that's required, even though you've seen the mode before -- at a different refresh rate, perhaps, or some other subtle difference)
[06:40] <G-Blunted> Titan8990,  hmm...no compiz...just default setup...what is that? xfce4?
[06:40] <mindrape_> Madpilot: que?
[06:40] <Titan8990> bernz, auto-detect only works over vga, obsolete imo
[06:40] <racle> benrz, yeah, but that didn't help...
[06:40] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, compiz can run on any desktop
[06:40] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, and I am actually running compiz in xfce4
[06:40] <bernz> Titan8990, ah, wasn't aware of that... thanks for the notice
[06:40] <racle> bernz, forgot to say, i got VGA switcher between pc and screen ^^'
[06:40] <unique> is it possible to copy two different files from different locations to another location using 1 single command?
[06:40] <G-Blunted> Titan8990,  so without Compiz tho....you're gunna overwrite some hotkeys if you try?
[06:41] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, I actually think that it is enabled by default in ubuntu, just need ccsm to configure it
[06:41] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, I am uncertain on that
[06:41] <G-Blunted> what is ccsm?
[06:41] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, compiz conifg settings manager
[06:41] <nickrud> !ccsm | G-Blunted
[06:41] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, if you are not using the hotkey in the first place, I would think its safe to overwrite
[06:41] <bernz> racle, okay, VGA uses analog, and timing for that is critical, so it *might* be possible that it's interfering; can you remove the switcher and try direct?
[06:41] <firefly2442> besides going into "screen resolution" is there any other way to setup an external projector?
[06:42] <bernz> (though if that were the cause, it should have trouble under windows as well)
[06:42] <G-Blunted> Titan8990,  ya but im new to this shit...i don't wanna overwrite a hotkey that might actually be good to use :p
[06:42] <racle> benrz, okay i try that
[06:42] <K`zan> Anyone have an idea on this problem (that !~v1 kernel has been uninstalled and everything to do with it deleted):dpkg: error processing linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-v2_<IP_ADDRESS>-v2-10.00.Custom_i386.deb (--install):
[06:42] <K`zan>  trying to overwrite `/lib/firmware/emi26/firmware.fw', which is also in package linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-v1
[06:42] <G-Blunted> actually...maybe that can just be part of me customizing my setup! :)
[06:42] <K`zan> TMIA
[06:43] <juniecho> hello, can someone help me configure my tablet pc?
[06:43] <K`zan> Wonder if I can do a force on it somehow...
[06:43] <G-Blunted> might help if you gave more info juniecho
[06:44] <racle> bernz, nope, didn't work
[06:44] <bernz> racle, http://paste.ubuntu.com/116353/
[06:44] <bernz> racle, take a look at that, and it will show you a way to instruct X to use your special video driver
[06:44] <dixon208> i have a question...
[06:44] <bernz> (you'll need to identify its name first; probably available on the homesite of the place you downloaded it from)
[06:44] <Dustin> hi
[06:44] <bernz> (or Websearch its name)
[06:45] <G-Blunted> ohhh...im running Xubuntu....that not start with gnome-terminal by any chance?
[06:45] <Titan8990> G-Blunted, no it uses xterm :)
[06:45] <G-Blunted> ahh...mystery solved :)
[06:46] <juniecho> G-Blunted: I want to get a .deb package for my tablet driver, i use hp tx2000 tablet pc. long time ago when i used ubuntu 8.04, i had to recompile the driver every kernel update, i really don't want to do that :( btw i saw something about wacom when i booted ubuntu, i don't know whether if the driver is installed right now, or it is inactive, maybe not installed at all :)
[06:46] <nrik> goodmorning
[06:46] <racle> bernz, ty
[06:46] <dixon208> what is this?? -> Open Adept (Kubuntu users), or the Software Sources tool (Ubuntu users), and enable the Recommended/Unsupported Updates (backports) in the "Updates" tab;
[06:47] <G-Blunted> so you wanna update your tablet driver on your tablet pc?
[06:47] <nrik> can you please tell me witch privelegies had to ~/ directory?
[06:47]  * nrik sorry for bad cnolage of english
[06:48] <juniecho> G-Blunted: actually i don't know if the driver is installed at all :) anyway the pen is not working, maybe i don't have the right driver...
[06:48] <Iamthebestuser> hello
[06:48] <nickrud> nrik, 755 for ~
[06:48] <Iamthebestuser> How can i install perl with all the modules ?
[06:48] <Titan8990> juniecho, for my tx1000 I just had to follow this guide: http://www.cartft.com/support/drivers/TFT/Linux_HowTo
[06:48] <G-Blunted> juniecho,  that thing is x64 huh?
[06:49] <nrik> nickrud: thankyou
[06:49] <Iamthebestuser> and i mean all the modules ..
[06:49] <juniecho> G-Blunted : no i'm using x86
[06:49] <Titan8990> juniecho, its not in english but the following the commands should work
[06:50] <bernz> hey, those switching from/combining windows to/with ubuntu, you might want to be able to access ext2fs and ext3fs volumes from windows. check this out: http://www.fs-driver.org/ it's kick-ass
[06:50] <simple|eeepc> hey
[06:50] <juniecho> Titan8990: but isn't it about manually compiling the driver? can't i get a .deb package so that i can avoid re-compiling the driver every kernel update?
[06:50] <Titan8990> bernz, I personally don't trust windows touching my ext drives :)
[06:50] <simple|eeepc> i'm using UBR and netbook-launcher is starting too many apps per click
[06:50] <Titan8990> juniecho, yes, you can
[06:50] <simple|eeepc> ie. i open pidgin once, it starts 8 processes, only one is visible
[06:50] <Titan8990> juniecho, anywhere they compile, just check synaptic for a relevant package
[06:51] <bernz> racle, good luck, i hope you get it solved soon; screen problems are the *worst* and make everything else more difficult to fix :-D
[06:51] <Titan8990> juniecho, if it doesn't exist, follow the guide
[06:51] <simple|eeepc> any reason why that would happen?
[06:51] <heightgao> 没有东西
[06:51] <bernz> Titan8990, hah, i don't blame you
[06:51] <racle> bernz, this dont seem so impossible, try install gentoo from kubuntu livecd :P
[06:51] <Titan8990> racle, lol I walked somone through something similar
[06:51] <kavitha> mindrape: i need source
[06:52] <bernz> racle, hah, that sounds like an exercise for advanced users :-D
[06:52] <Digital71> kavitha: he was banned from the channel
[06:52] <bernz> Titan8990, if it was your mother (or anyone's mother), that's truly a marvellous feat
[06:52] <prince_jammys> if someone here has the video card Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE, and is running ubuntu hardy, and has no graphic problems, i'd appreciate if you could paste your xorg.conf
[06:52] <K`zan> disregard, got it :-)!
[06:52] <dixon208> Open Adept (Kubuntu users), or the Software Sources tool (Ubuntu users), and enable the Recommended/Unsupported Updates (backports) in the "Updates" tab; <- what does that mean??
[06:53] <Titan8990> bernz, lol might have been, random person on irc
[06:53] <kavitha> Digital71:why?
[06:53] <bazhang> !give me a test
[06:53]  * Cosmo gives bazhang :bazhang!n=bazhang@unaffiliated/bazhang PRIVMSG #ubuntu :+!give me a test.
[06:53] <bernz> Titan8990, awesome :-)
[06:53] <racle> bernz, i tryed that for couple days, but installed kubuntu at that point where i could log in, but eth0 desnt work or kde doestn work :P
[06:53] <Digital71> kavitha: someone was verbally attacking him, and he retaliated
[06:53] <nrik> i can`t login to gnome session, Err:Out of space or restricted privelegies
[06:53] <bazhang> Cosmo, turn off that script please
[06:53] <simple|eeepc> racle, do you have eth0?
[06:53] <racle> bernz, i modifided my conf, cross your fingers :P
[06:53] <simple|eeepc> ifconfig -> pastebin
[06:53] <nrik> what can i do?
[06:53] <racle> default cable :P
[06:53] <kavitha> Digital71: ok
[06:53] <racle> brb reboot
[06:54] <kavitha> Digital71: can u help me with my issue?
[06:54] <Digital71> kavitha: he said privately that he would return tomorrow if the ban was withdrawn - though i cannot guarantee that, since i am not affiliated with him in any way
[06:54] <Digital71> kavitha: he was actually helping me as well -- but what's your problem?
[06:54] <bernz> racle, i'm using kubuntu for this laptop (in linux mode, but currently i'm in xp controlling my ubuntu mediabox across the room via VNC on LAN), and i have had problems with the wireless manager (it's too smart for it's own good) and a few things, but it was the only distro i tried which could read my laptop's SATA drive early enough to boot from it
[06:55] <phanleson> Noone
[06:55] <racle> didn't work...
[06:55] <bernz> also, i can't explain why, but i just prefer gnome slightly to k
[06:55] <G-Blunted> juniecho, i can only suggest these resources, but i think they will help you:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5469447#post5469447  <---and this one ---> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=60848
[06:55] <bernz> (though i haven't tried many others... ice is nice)
[06:56] <nexxt> Titan is there an option to change "vinillaice" to something else?
[06:56] <Titan8990> bernz, gnome > all    unless you can't handle it then xfce4 > fluxbox > JWM > everything else
[06:56] <ashlessburn> i know this is not a supp ditro for ubuntu but trying to install backtrak as a dual boot having issues with boot i get the selection for ubuntu but not backtrak and there is no guided part
[06:57] <Titan8990> nexxt, you can search make menu config with the / key
[06:57] <kavitha> i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[06:57] <Iamthebestuser> i want to install per with all modules in ubuntu server.. whats the way?? if i do apt-get isntall perl it doesn't install all modules
[06:57] <kavitha> Digital71: i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[06:57] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker deb for ubuntu gutsy
[06:58] <nexxt> Titan heh k i guess next time i should do "make-kpkg clean" and it wont take so long?
[06:58] <bernz> Titan8990, excellent, that'll save me endless searching for a "better" wm :-)
[06:58] <G-Blunted> google it rubydiamond
[06:58] <nexxt> should=shouldnt
[06:58] <rubydiamond> G-Blunted, not finding
[06:58] <ashlessburn> also i know 5-0 is coming out soon for debian will that have any impact on the synaptic for ubuntu servers?
[06:58] <G-Blunted> have you tried?
[06:58] <meshuggah> hello everyone
[06:58] <rubydiamond> G-Blunted, I am unable to find it with google
[06:58] <rubydiamond> G-Blunted, yes
[06:58] <Titan8990> bernz, awesome
[06:59] <bernz> Titan8990, have you any experience with USB problems? (in particular, host controllers being missed at normal detect time (boot, etc))
[06:59] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, ubuntu is always built off of the debian release canditade and not the stable release
[06:59] <Digital71> kavitha: i'm not familiar with SDL -- perhaps you can catch him here tomorrow if he gets unbanned, or alternatively find someone else here that is
[07:00] <cjae> could not create directory /root/.googleearth and /root/.googleearth/Cache
[07:00] <ashlessburn> so based off 5.0 will i have to make any query changes?
[07:00] <Titan8990> Titan8990, no, I am using my own kernel that doesn't use initrd....
[07:00] <G-Blunted> rubydiamond,  you're an idiot or a liar:  http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-musictracker/downloads/list
[07:00] <Titan8990> lol....
[07:00] <G-Blunted> that was the first page that came up on google
[07:00] <bernz> classic!
[07:00] <rubydiamond> G-Blunted, but there is no .deb version
[07:01] <rubydiamond> for gutsy
[07:01] <nexxt> Titan heh k i guess next time i should do "make-kpkg clean" and it wont take so long?
[07:01] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, debian releases will not directly effect you using ubuntu
[07:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, I am not familer with make-kpkg
[07:01] <bernz> Titan8990, do you think i should be looking a udev, or lower level?
[07:01] <Titan8990> nexxt, I have never even considered making a package out of my kernel
[07:01] <nexxt> well how do i save time recompiling kernel
[07:02] <ashlessburn> thank u any advise u can give on  boot part for backtrak,
[07:02] <bernz> nexxt, distributed build system!  :-D
[07:02] <Titan8990> nexxt, you can give make a -j option for multithreadding
[07:02] <Titan8990> nexxt, usually -j #ofcpus+1
[07:02] <kavitha> Digital71: i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[07:02] <nexxt> Titan : you said something about gcc not remaking everything
[07:02] <racle> bernz, working :P
[07:02] <cjae> could not create directory /root/.googleearth and /root/.googleearth/Cache why is this happening now?
[07:02] <Titan8990> Titan8990, its not going to be udev, usb should be loaded well before udev starts
[07:02] <racle> but screen flashes every 10 sek..
[07:02] <Titan8990> ....
[07:03] <bernz> racle, DUDE!  nice :-)
[07:03] <nexxt> but since i did that clean command its taking the same amount of time
[07:03] <ashlessburn> xandros has a posted orum of direct changes bc of debian relase" so sorry for the mulitple ques
[07:03] <Titan8990> i really need to stop doing that
[07:03] <racle> bernz, found working xorg.conf from google :P
[07:03] <bernz> racle, excellent, so google is not completely clogged with useless fake blogs yet  ;-)
[07:04] <racle> bernz, but this screen flashing is annoying :/
[07:04] <prince_jammys> if someone here has the video card Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE, and is running ubuntu hardy or intrepid, and has no graphic problems, i'd appreciate if you could paste your xorg.conf
[07:04] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, what do you mean by boot part? boot partion for backtrack? you can chroot into the backtrack filesystem
[07:04] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, or you can just boot it from a thumb drive
[07:05] <Vinceman> what would be a good program to calculate things with in ubuntu, say the windows maple equivalent?
[07:05] <meshuggah> how can i boot in console in intrepid?
[07:05] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600
[07:05] <bernz> racle, is it shearing/flicker from effects that are not accelerated, maybe?
[07:05] <DanaG> argh!
[07:05] <Titan8990> nexxt, you should put my name in your replies
[07:05] <DanaG> bug 314600
[07:05] <Titan8990> nexxt, so it is easier for me to see
[07:05] <racle> bernz, dunno :/
[07:05]  * DanaG pokes ubottu with a pointy stick
[07:05] <Titan8990> nexxt, you don't have to make clean everytime, but some do
[07:06] <nexxt> ok
[07:06] <firefly2442> Vinceman: is Maple a math program?
[07:06] <racle> bernz, its fullscreen flashing every 10 sek.
[07:06] <Titan8990> nexxt, I personally I have recompiled my current kernel 10+ times w/o a make clean
[07:06] <bernz> hey, good tip, DanaG, i was about to install fglrx soon
[07:06] <Vinceman> firefly2442 yes, don't you know it?
[07:06] <ashlessburn> i tried that i ither have a bad usb drive the iso didnt install right or im having a grub error
[07:06] <DanaG> It only seems to be this specific laptop model doing it, for some reason.
[07:06] <nexxt> Titan : does yours still say vinillaice?
[07:06] <Titan8990> bernz, say that where?
[07:06] <bernz> racle, whoah, that doesn't sound quite right
[07:06] <Titan8990> nexxt, say that where?
[07:07] <ashlessburn> apologize for my shand
[07:07] <nexxt> Titan : kernel version
[07:07] <Titan8990> nexxt, in uname -r?
[07:07] <Vinceman> firefly2442 you know it right?
[07:07] <nexxt> Titan : yes
[07:07] <Vinceman> firefly2442 how would you call it?
[07:07] <firefly2442> Vinceman: ahh yeah, never used it though, maybe this: http://openwetware.org/wiki/R_Statistics
[07:08] <bernz> racle, perhaps a timing problem (screen refresh rate -- if you found an "american"-style config, it could be geared toward 60 Hz, and you probably use 50 Hz)
[07:08] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker deb for ubuntu gutsy
[07:08] <ashlessburn> im gonna try using a burnable for the backtrak, however if this doesnt work what are some other options for the grub boot part
[07:09] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, you can also use a CD, but if you would like to learn about chroot: http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/chroot.html
[07:09] <Titan8990> nexxt, it is a make menuconfig option, let me find it
[07:09] <racle> benrz, its 60
[07:10] <bernz> try changing that to 50 (or do you mean you are using 60 in your household AC mains?)
[07:10] <firefly2442> Vinceman: here's a better link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_(programming_language)
[07:10] <Titan8990> nexxt, general configuration -> local verions - append to kernel release
[07:10] <racle> bernz, its always has been 60 ~
[07:10] <ashlessburn> k i just wanted to know if there where known issues with ubuntu on this aspect for i dived to deep into this problem, cutting into my drinking time a bit lol . if there are no known issues then i should be fine. just never had issues with backtrak 2 or previous versions
[07:10] <nexxt> Titan : thanks
[07:10] <racle> bernz, and i dont think this screen can handdle 50 so well :)
[07:11] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, are you trying to boot from the grub on your HDD instead of making the usb stick bootable?
[07:11] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, also, BT4 beta will be coming out very soon
[07:11] <bernz> racle, sorry, i guessed you are really from Finland, and that Finland has similar electrical as Europe  :->
[07:12] <nexxt> backtrack sucks
[07:12] <kavitha>  i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[07:12] <ashlessburn> yes trying to boot from usb, as a iso many issues so it semes
[07:12] <Titan8990> nexxt, and what do you use for pentesting?
[07:12] <ashlessburn> seems*]
[07:12] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, you may want to join #remote-exploit
[07:12] <ashlessburn> how long before bt4?/
 uname -a
[07:12] <nexxt> OpenBSD northpole 4.4 GENERIC#1021 i386
[07:12] <Titan8990> ashlessburn, not entirely sure, soon I know
[07:12] <Guest84654> ok when  i boot from cd it gives me an error with irq 9. what is it and how can i get it to work?
[07:12] <racle> bernz, i am from finland :P
[07:13] <ashlessburn> is debian still sche for the 14th?
[07:13] <Titan8990> nexxt, thats your kernel?:
[07:13] <bernz> racle, ...but Finland has 60 Hz electrical?  :-]
[07:13] <racle> yah
[07:13] <nexxt> u asked what i pentest from
[07:13] <Titan8990> nexxt, ah
[07:13] <ari_stress> racle: i heard they still DC in the power line?
[07:13] <ari_stress> racle: i heard they still use DC in the power line?
[07:14] <racle> not sure :) prehaps
[07:14] <Digital71> anyone here with a chat log open for 30+ mins willing to dig something up for me?
[07:14] <Decepticon> yes
[07:14] <jaxx2kde> Digital71: that would be me
[07:14] <Decepticon> Digital71 what it is
[07:14] <Titan8990> Digital71, I do, but no timestamps
[07:15] <Vinceman> firefly2442 a link about the letter R?
[07:15] <IdleOne> ashlessburn, #debian or they're website
[07:15] <Digital71> i'll see if jaxx can grab it for me, since he called out first
[07:15] <firefly2442> Vinceman: no, it's a statistical math software package (with a weird name) :)
[07:16] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker deb for ubuntu gutsy
[07:16] <bernz> racle, are you *sure* about the frequency? i'm not trying to be rude or call you a liar, but quite a lot of web sites are suggesting it's 50 Hz...
[07:16] <jaxx2kde> sure.. what are you looking for?
[07:16] <Digital71> jaxx2kde: did you get that?
[07:17] <bernz> ...it might be worth a try. but beware, your monitor could be harmed (i can't be responsible ;-/)
[07:17] <Digital71> jaxx2kde: send me a pm
[07:18] <crog> can someone point me in the right direction? i have a HP dv5130ca laptop i'm running ubuntu on, works great, but when i boot up computer, takes anyhere from 3 to 5 minutes for anything to happen, almost looks like laptop is hung, then screen will come on and can go into bios or boot into ubuntu, and all is well.. does this everytime i boot up?
[07:18] <rubydiamond>  where can I get pidgin-musictracker deb for ubuntu gutsy
[07:19] <Vinceman> firefly2442
[07:19] <Vinceman> can you do exactly the same as with maple with it? calculate unknown variables with sets of equations etc... ?
[07:19] <meshuggah> how can i boot in console/terminal in ubuntu intrepid?
[07:19] <bernz> crog, it sounds like it's trying to detect some hardware that takes a long time
[07:19] <firefly2442> Vinceman: hmm, dunno sorry, I've never used either R or Maple, you'll have to look into it and see
[07:20] <Vinceman> ok thx
[07:20] <bernz> often, this happens when hardware is queried and a time out constitutes a "not present" reply
[07:20] <G-Blunted> crog, might wanna enter your cmos and look around
[07:20] <IdleOne> rubydiamond, www.getdeb.net/app/pidgin-musictracker first link in google search
[07:20] <crog> yeah, but what? really weird.. and i don't get any errors displayed
[07:20] <rubydiamond> IdleOne, I want it for Gutsy
[07:20] <bernz> crog, you might be able to check your boot log and see about disabling some drivers that aren't functioning anyway to prevent them from trying stuff at startup that isn't going to work
[07:21] <crog> this seems to take place before i can go into cmos, would a boot log still be logged?
[07:21] <bernz> oh, no, that's very unusual
[07:21] <crog> yeah, no kidding
[07:21] <rubydiamond> IdleOne, ??
[07:22] <bernz> in that case, it's the BIOS trying to do the same thing perhaps
[07:22] <bernz> have you changed any hardware in the laptop?  has it always had this delay?
[07:22] <crog> never changed anything in laptop, and no wasn't always this way, started about 2 months ago, driving me crazy
[07:22] <IdleOne> rubydiamond, type apt-cache search music-tracker in terminal see if it comes up if so sudo apt-get install music-tracker
[07:23] <bernz> G-Blunted's suggestion is good; you might be able to configure your BIOS to skip certain things
[07:23] <bernz> (for instance, IDE device auto-detection used to be slow back in the day, so the solution was manually entering your disk geometry and whatnot to bypass autodetection)
[07:24] <crog> i'll recheck bios.. not much available in there to shut off.. hp doesn't give you much choice.. can't reflash bios cause hp uses windows program to flash
[07:25] <G-Blunted> lol
[07:25] <G-Blunted> what does disk geometry look like?
[07:25] <G-Blunted> and what the hell is the difference between a "DISC" and a "DISK"?? I just realized this.....
[07:25] <G-Blunted> oh...DISC isnt real...
[07:25] <FloodBot2> G-Blunted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:25] <G-Blunted> Compact Disk?
[07:25]  * G-Blunted is so confused
[07:25] <MeVsTheVoices> crog: If you have already pulled open the case most HP machines should have a JUMPER
[07:25] <rubydiamond> IdleOne, not it is not coming there
[07:26] <IdleOne> rubydiamond, there does not seem to be a package for gutsy. might want to upgrade your distro and then install that package for hardy
[07:26] <crog> jumper for ?
[07:26] <bernz> disc is round
[07:26] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: Disk geometry is simply the layout of data in a disc, on NTFS (eg Windows) its linear, lending its self little speed, on Linux however, its taken much more seriously, allowing faster data retrieval times, and less need for data defragging
[07:26] <bernz> disk is thing
[07:26] <G-Blunted> he's on a laptop
[07:26] <MeVsTheVoices> crog: BIOS
[07:26] <rubydiamond> okay
[07:26] <bernz> disk was once round, but when it stopped being round, 'k' stopped being 'c'
[07:27] <MeVsTheVoices> crog: Pull the Jumper BIOS, there go you jumper settings
[07:27] <G-Blunted> lol
[07:27] <G-Blunted> disk's actually used to be square
[07:27] <crog> oh ok.. i'll have to check that out
[07:27] <G-Blunted> and they are now round
[07:27] <meshuggah> lol
[07:28] <bernz> crog, look for a nearby geek to help you flash a BIOS; for instance, i've just ordered one a week ago, so my friends will now know someone with a hook-up for their fail-safe BIOS flashing needs
[07:28] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: Where the hell you getting that from?
[07:28] <bernz> (if you need to flash a BIOS)
[07:28] <gimpscape_> hi. how can I disable nvidia logo which is appears every time when I start X? I have set  Option   "NoLogo" "True" in "Device" section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but it did not help
[07:29] <crog> can't seem to be able to flash with new bios firmware, laptop is running ubuntu, and hp's firware requires windows to flash with, was going to try that
[07:29] <bernz> crog, but as for any other changes... i'm not sure... it doesn't get much lower level than the BIOS
[07:29] <G-Blunted> cause floppy disks are all square...the 5.25 and 3.5....and now "discs" are round and compact!
[07:30] <bernz> crog, before you attempt a flash -- KNOW that it can often crap out, leaving you SOL if you have no other PC on hand
[07:30] <G-Blunted> disc vs. disk
[07:30] <MeVsTheVoices> G-Blunted: Open a floppy disc up and tell me what you see
[07:30] <bernz> crog, and in that case, be sure to have the geek friend i mentioned above
[07:30] <G-Blunted> MeVsTheVoices,  oh shit..that's a very good call
[07:30] <rww> MeVsTheVoices: magic smoke!
[07:30] <bernz> (to save your bacon when the crappily-written flash upgrader program craps out)
[07:30] <MeVsTheVoices> rww: PANTIE RAID!
[07:31] <crog> thanks alot guys, help was much appreciated, i'll see what i can do with pulling jumper for bios and clearing to factory defaults
[07:31] <Flannel> !offtopic | MeVsTheVoices
[07:31] <MeVsTheVoices> Flannel: NO U!
[07:31] <bernz> crog, good luck
[07:31] <crog> later all
[07:31] <Flannel> MeVsTheVoices: No.
[07:32] <meshuggah> ..
[07:32] <kavitha>  i hav to compare SDL library with other alternate for plugin browser.. . where will i get source of video player that uses SDL
[07:33] <Digital7> kavitha..one sec
[07:33] <IdleOne> hey folks Im looking for a client for Ubuntu/gnulinux that I can use to chat with a Windows yahoo im user that supports video and voice. any ideas? this person does not want to have to install another program ( SIP client )
[07:33] <Myrtti> IdleOne: you're out of luck.
[07:33] <MeVsTheVoices> Giggles_: insult Flannel
[07:33] <Giggles_> Flannel: Thou art but a saucy folly-fallen maggot-pie
[07:33] <Flannel> IdleOne: Use Ekiga and Netmeeting
[07:34] <IdleOne> Myrtti, yeah that is what I have discovered, Flannel ekiga is not an option they refuse to install anything
[07:34] <Myrtti> IdleOne: you use ekiga
[07:34] <Flannel> IdleOne: Netmeeting is installed by default
[07:34] <Myrtti> IdleOne: they use netmeeting
[07:34] <meshuggah> kavitha : ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/download.html       btw i am not sure...:)
[07:34] <MeVsTheVoices> Wow... that was some weak sauce!
[07:35] <IdleOne> Myrtti, Flannel any links to how I would get the connection setup so I can explain it or atleast show them?
[07:35] <rww> Flannel, Myrtti: What about for Mac? I'm thinking of doing some stuff with Ekiga too.
[07:35] <Flannel> rww: Ekiga + Netmeeting both speak H.323, so whatever the native OSX client for that is.
[07:35] <bernz> MeVsTheVoices, oh man, i *LOVE* weak sauce!  :-D
[07:36] <Myrtti> please keep the offtopic somewhere else
[07:36] <Flannel> bernz: Please don't
[07:36] <MeVsTheVoices> bernz: WTF is requested you part, least kick me and do it right
[07:36] <rww> Flannel: thanks
[07:36] <bernz> "you-should-probably-just-stay-home-and-have-leftovers!"
[07:36] <rww> !ot | MeVsTheVoices, bernz
[07:36] <Myrtti> MeVsTheVoices: did you have ubuntu related problems or questions?
[07:37]  * bernz bows in apology (got carried away)
[07:37] <MeVsTheVoices> Myrtti: I come bearing answers Sensi, now lighten up
[07:37] <shodan45> what's the "right" way to remove older, unused kernels?
[07:37] <Myrtti> shodan45: uninstalling them with package manager
[07:37] <MeVsTheVoices> shodan45: Delete them, then remove them from Grub, assuming thats what you use
[07:38] <kebomix_> my bluetooth send files only ,how to make it receive files ?
[07:38] <shodan45> hmm, so removing them via package manager won't remove them from grub?
[07:38] <bernz> Myrtti, in fact, i do have an ubuntu-related problem: my mobo usb host controllers don't seem to get detected or initialized; i have an expansion card with more USB hosts that DO work.
[07:38] <MeVsTheVoices> shodan45: Keep an extra version behind though, some things go kinky, always have a fallguy
[07:38] <toxicfailtroll> whats emerald? is it like gtk or something?
[07:38] <nickrud> shodan45, yes, they do
[07:38] <Myrtti> kebomix_: install a software that listens to incoming bluetooth filesending
[07:38] <Flannel> shodan45: It will, yes.
[07:38] <olie-user> how can i check which package will get me XML-SemanticDiff ??
[07:38] <Myrtti> shodan45: sure it will remove it from grum
[07:38] <IdleOne> Myrtti, FYI in case you did not know there is a ekiga for windows it is beta but I will try and get them to install it.
[07:38] <Myrtti> grub...
[07:39] <bernz> Myrtti, so i'm trying to figure out where to stat looking at the problem (no kernel messages on plug-in)
[07:39] <kebomix_> Myrtti: what is this software ?
[07:39] <Flannel> IdleOne: They don't need to.  Standards are standards (thats the wonderful thing about them)
[07:39] <dmphotography> Hey, what's the best way to remotely transfer files between Ubuntu and Windows, such as in a remote desktop situation?
[07:39] <IdleOne> Flannel, I understand that but some people are hard headed
[07:39] <MeVsTheVoices> IdleOne: Ekiga uses SIP, no reason you have to use Ekiga with windows, SIP is commonly used for VoIP, so I'm sure theres a better windows client out there
[07:40] <bernz> dmphotography, you could probably set up an FTP server
[07:40] <Flannel> IdleOne: Hard headed... so they won't run netmeeting, but instead will install Ekiga?  What?
[07:40] <Myrtti> kebomix_: install gnome-bluetooth package.
[07:40] <skringla> dmphotography: samba and a windows share folder
[07:40] <MeVsTheVoices> IdleOne: All these will work, no need for klunky Ekiga http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software
[07:40] <IdleOne> MeVsTheVoices, the issue is not the client it is the lack of willingness to install anything but yahoo. yahoo is what they know and dont want to change
[07:40] <jadew> hi guys, any idea how to set up the main monitor in a dual monitor setup running on an nvidia card on ubuntu 8.10?
[07:40] <dmphotography> bernz: What about securing the FTP server?
[07:40] <Myrtti> IdleOne: but Windows comes with Netmeeting *PREINSTALLED*
[07:40] <skringla> dmphotography: I have used ftp too, gftp is easy to configure
[07:41] <kebomix_> Myrtti: thanks :D
[07:41] <bernz> dmphotography, well it depends on how you plan to use it -- one-time bulk transfer of stuff, or regular use
[07:41] <MeVsTheVoices> IdleOne: Then don't use Ekiga, unless it has something others don't
[07:41] <IdleOne> Myrtti, they know yahoo. Im dealing with a windows user here who is unflexible
[07:41] <bernz> for regular use, just read a bit about the risks and how to mitigate them, and you'll be fine with most servers... except stay far away from wu-ftpd  :-D
[07:41] <IdleOne> I'd probably be better off driving 500miles and installing it for them