[03:18] <sgo11> hi, I am using 14.04 beta1. The known issue says it does not support nvidia-prime. Will 14.04 work without nvidia-prime support? I tried to sudo apt-get install nvidia-331. it automatically installs nvidia-prime for me, then I can NOT enter my system. what should I do now? Thanks.
[04:08] <darkxst> sgo11, nvidia-prime does nothing when using gdm
[04:16] <darkxst> (i.e. it can't break your system since it won't be run)
[04:26] <sgo11> darkxst, just saw your message. thanks for your reply. then what should I do to use nvidia driver? when I install nvidia driver, it just doesn't work. I don't care of intel graphic card. I failed to find an option to disable it in BIOS. what should I do now? thanks.
[04:27] <darkxst> try and blacklist the intel kernel driver?
[04:28] <sgo11> darkxst, I read the gdm bug. somebody says the bug was fixed in nvidia-prime 0.5hybrid version. But I don't find it in the repo.
[04:28] <darkxst> sgo11, that was just to stop nvidia-prime from pulling in lightdm
[04:31] <sgo11> darkxst, I am not sure if blacklist the intel kernel driver helps or not. I remembered some guy mentions it won't help at all by google. I don't know the concept behind the bug and why I can't launch gdm. I think my case is normal. There are many laptops which have hybrid cards. I have no idea what to do.
[04:33] <darkxst> sgo11, try blacklist it and see!
[04:33] <darkxst> if it still doesnt work paste some logs
[04:34] <sgo11> darkxst, thanks. let me google how to blacklist it first. never do that before.
[04:35] <darkxst> edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[04:35] <darkxst> add a line
[04:35] <darkxst> 'blacklist modulename'
[04:35] <darkxst> the intel module is i9xx (I dont remember the exact number)
[04:36] <sgo11> darkxst, thanks. let me see.
[04:36] <sgo11> i915
[04:37] <darkxst> yeh that would it
[04:38] <sgo11> darkxst, should I install nvidia driver before I reboot?
[04:38] <darkxst> yes
[04:39] <darkxst> then if it fails to load, drop to a VT and grab
[04:39] <darkxst> /var/log/gdm/\:0.log
[04:39] <darkxst> and :0-greeter.log    :0-slave.log
[04:41] <sgo11> darkxst, I will reboot this machine now. be back soon. thanks.
[04:46] <sgo11> darkxst, it's not working. I see a black screen. let me paste the log somewhere.
[04:52] <sgo11> darkxst, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7042406/
[04:53] <sgo11> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7042407/
[04:53] <sgo11> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7042409/
[04:56] <darkxst> intel driver is still loading and NVIDIA is never loading
[04:56] <darkxst> you might need an xorg.conf to tell Xorg to use nvidia driver
[04:58] <darkxst> perhaps:
[04:58] <darkxst> Section "Device"
[04:58] <darkxst>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[04:58] <darkxst>         Driver          "nvidia"
[04:58] <darkxst> EndSection
[04:58] <darkxst> would be enough
[04:59] <sgo11> darkxst, thanks. I will try that and reboot.
[05:04] <sgo11> darkxst, the same result. black screen. let me paste the log again. thanks.
[05:08] <sgo11> darkxst, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7042437/
[05:08] <darkxst> that is just the same....
[05:08] <sgo11> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7042443/
[05:09] <darkxst> do you see the nvidia card in lspci output?
[05:09] <sgo11> darkxst, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218M [GeForce 310M] (rev a2)
[05:09] <sgo11> the result of "lspci | grep -i nvidia"
[05:12] <darkxst> I really don't know then
[05:12] <sgo11> I installed nvidia driver by issuing "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331". it works fine with lubuntu 14.04.
[05:12]  * darkxst has never played with optimus hardware
[05:13] <darkxst> you could try install lightdm and see if that works (un-blacklist intel driver)
[05:14] <sgo11> darkxst, I was thinking that too. but I forgot the command to set btw lightdm and gdm. let me check my notes.
[05:14] <darkxst> dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[05:14] <darkxst> if its installed, otherwise it will just ask you when you install it
[05:15] <sgo11> darkxst, thanks. let me try that.
[05:20] <sgo11> darkxst, before rebooting. I just realized that i915 is loaded even if I blacklist it.
[05:20] <darkxst> sgo11, nvidia prime disables the nvidia card at boot possibly
[05:22] <darkxst> sgo11, try sudo service nividia-prime stop
[05:22] <darkxst> and then
[05:22] <darkxst> startx
[05:22] <darkxst> ^rmmod i915
[05:22] <darkxst> and make sure nvidia mod is loaded
[05:23] <sgo11> darkxst, I am just trying lightdm now. lightdm can be loaded. once I enter my password, it takes very long time. It is still hanging there. not enter gnome yet.
[05:25] <sgo11> gnome can not be launched by lightdm. weird.
[05:25] <darkxst> yeh strange
[05:26] <sgo11> I am not a native English speaker. what is that circle thing called? spinning? it's spinning forever in lightdm.
[05:30] <sgo11> no need to stop nvidia-prime. "status nvidia-prime" returns "stop/waiting"
[05:31] <darkxst> what if you try start nvidia-prime?
[05:33] <sgo11> darkxst, it can not be started. sudo start nvidia-prime will give process 1891. but once I do ps -ef, the process is not there. status shows it stops/waiting again.
[05:33] <darkxst> it must log the reason somewhere
[05:34] <sgo11> I am checking.. not sure where logs it.
[05:35] <darkxst> maybe /var/log/upstart
[05:37] <darkxst> /var/log/nvidia-prime-upstart.log
[05:39] <sgo11> darkxst, that file will be re-generated everytime I run sudo start nvidia-prime. it only has three lines. "Configuring xorg.conf" "Configuring alternatives" "Info: the nvidia profile is already in use"
[05:39] <sgo11> I mean /var/log/nvidia-prime-upstart.log
[05:40] <sgo11> oh. I have xorg.conf generated by nvida-prime. maybe I can reboot to see if that works in gdm or not.
[05:42] <sgo11> it doesn't work. black screen with gdm.
[05:44] <darkxst> can you try running startx
[05:44] <darkxst> with both nvidia-prime stopped and nvidia-prime started
[05:45] <sgo11> darkxst, nvidia-prime status will always be stopped. do I simply issue "startx" ? I did that. it is a black screen.
[05:45] <darkxst> sgo11, file a bug I guess
[05:46] <sgo11> darkxst, should I fire a bug? because that is a known issue in ubuntu gnome 14.04 beta1. from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta1/UbuntuGNOME
[05:47] <darkxst> I don't believe that is really the issue here
[05:47] <darkxst> (although it may be)
[05:48] <darkxst> or mimic the prime scripts
[05:48] <darkxst> '/usr/bin/prime-select nvidia'
[05:48] <darkxst> startx
[05:49] <sgo11> darkxst, i tried that. it just returns "the nvidia profile is already in use". startx gives the same result.
[05:49] <darkxst> perhaps with 'sudo prime-offload'
[05:49] <darkxst> perhaps with 'sudo /sbin/prime-offload'
[05:50] <sgo11> can't open display error.
[05:52] <darkxst> sudo startx -- sudo /sbin/prime-offload
[05:52] <darkxst> err no middle sudo
[05:52] <sgo11> darkxst, ok. if I do this "sudo prime-select intel". and then "reboot". it works with intel card.
[05:53] <sgo11> after reboot and enter gnome, I give "sudo prime-select query", it still returns "intel"
[05:53] <darkxst> sgo11, so from what I see in the scripts, lightdm loads on the intel card
[05:54] <darkxst> once you login, it runs /sbin/prime-offload (presumably after the X server has started)
[05:54] <sgo11> darkxst, yeah, lightdm loads on the intel card. but as what I said, when I use lightdm to enter gnome, it's spinning in the lightdm screen forever.
[05:54] <darkxst> yeh, I got that
[05:55] <sgo11> darkxst, sorry. mistake. I think I should say lightdm loads on nvidia card. since gdm loads on intel card too.
[05:57] <darkxst> # We need to make sure that bbswitch is loaded and
[05:57] <darkxst> # that the NVIDIA card is disabled before lightdm
[05:57] <darkxst> # starts X if system settings require so.
[05:57] <darkxst> that setting comes from /etc/prime-discrete
[05:59] <sgo11> I am a bit confused. what do you suggest me to do now? thanks.
[06:03] <darkxst> file a bug
[06:05] <darkxst> `cat /proc/acpi/bbswitch` ?
[06:05] <sgo11> darkxst, the result is 0000:01:00.0 OFF
[06:11] <darkxst> nvidia kernel modules does load right?
[06:12] <sgo11> right now, I am in intel card mode. otherwise, I won't be able to enter gnome. current status: "sudo prime-select query" will give "intel".
[06:17] <darkxst> in gnome-shell?
[06:17] <darkxst> if so run 'xrandr --listproviders'
[06:19] <sgo11> darkxst, yeah, in gnome-shell. if I do "sudo prime-select intel" and then "reboot", everything works just like I haven't installed nvidia driver at all.
[06:19] <darkxst> ^ that command outputs?
[06:20] <sgo11> darkxst, Providers: number : 1 Provider 0: id: 0x47 cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 3 outputs: 5 associated providers: 0 name:Intel
[06:22] <darkxst> I suppose that means the nividia card is not loaded at all
[06:22] <sgo11> ok. I think I just fire another bug then. will use intel card with "prime-select intel" for now.
[06:24] <sgo11> In which package did you find this bug? what should I write? gdm? or nvidia-prime? or ubuntu-gnome?
[06:25] <darkxst> ubuntu-bug nvidia-prime
[06:26] <sgo11> thanks.
[06:28] <darkxst> does /etc/X11/xorg.conf have the correct Bus ID for nvidia card?
[06:29] <darkxst> probably "01:00.0"?
[06:32] <sgo11> currently, there is no xorg.conf. I deleted it. that is only generated if I run sudo start nvidia-prime.
[06:37] <darkxst> oh right, you would need that to load the nvidia driver
[06:41] <darkxst> anyway here are the nvidia docs, http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/319.12/README/randr14.html
[06:42] <darkxst> that is essentially what nvidia-prime scripts are doing
[06:43] <sgo11> darkxst, thanks a lot for your time and help. I just fired a bug. I will use intel card for now until it gets fixed. and thanks, I am reading that doc.
[06:45] <darkxst> sgo11, always file bugs with 'ubuntu-bug'!
[06:46] <sgo11> darkxst, sorry. I never really fired a bug before. let me see what I can do.
[06:53] <darkxst> sgo11, run apport-collect
[06:54] <sgo11> darkxst, I read your comment. just did that.
[06:55] <darkxst> also attach Xorg log (while using the correct xorg.conf config)
[06:56] <sgo11> sorry, I don't follow it. xorg.conf is not present now. should I create it by running "sudo start nvidia-prime" ? and then reboot?
[06:56] <darkxst> yeh
[06:57] <darkxst> and then grab the log from /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[06:57] <darkxst> and attach to bug
[06:57] <sgo11> darkxst, ok. I will do that now. with "prime-select intel" status, right? otherwise, I won't be able to boot.
[07:02] <sgo11> hm... I think I should give logs with "prime-select nvidia" mode. I just boot machine with this mode and ssh to the laptop to get those log files then.
[07:03] <darkxst> yeh nvidia mode is fine
[07:07] <darkxst> I suppose to be safe also attach -greeter and -slave as well
[07:07] <sgo11> yeah, I will do that.
[07:13] <sgo11> done
[07:17] <darkxst> sgo11, interesting that X log look correct
[07:18] <sgo11> ok. gdm screen is just black.
[07:19] <darkxst> gdm-slave failed
[07:19] <darkxst> no debug logging though
[07:20] <darkxst> can you enable that /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[07:20] <darkxst> and grab :0-slave.log again
[07:21] <sgo11> I will do that. I am upgrading to a new kernel though. to see if that will help. will do that after the upgrade.
[07:22] <darkxst> that won't help
[07:23] <sgo11> you are right. it doesn't help. nvidia-prime is the same version. :)
[07:24] <sgo11> .... I can not crtl+alt+f1 to switch to the first console now.
[07:25] <sgo11> ssh-server is still working.
[07:34] <sgo11> :0-slave.log re-submitted.
[07:36] <darkxst> one last thing to try
[07:36] <darkxst> edit /etc/gdm/Init/Default
[07:36] <sgo11> ok. I am in that file. where to edit?
[07:37] <darkxst> and add a line '/sbin/prime-offload'
[07:38] <sgo11> darkxst, to the end?
[07:38] <darkxst> at line 8
[07:38] <darkxst> just before initctl is called
[07:41] <sgo11> darkxst, did that. still black screen.
[07:41] <darkxst> try it in ~/.xinitrc also
[07:42] <darkxst> sgo11, it actually looks like it loaded the greeter
[07:43] <sgo11> darkxst, will ~/.xinitrc matter? I even don't see login screen. i thought that file will only be loaded after I login.
[07:44] <darkxst> yeh true
[08:15] <sgo11> darkxst, hi, i saw you changed the bug status to incomplete. what should I do then? I am really new to this. thanks.
[17:49] <B_Jay> Hi guys! I got two small question in regards to Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 Beta 1
[17:50] <B_Jay> Problem 1: My second hard drive, mounted at /media/DataStore shows as being a removable drive while it isn't ... it's connected internally to an SATA port and mounted during fstab. Any way to fix this?
[17:51] <B_Jay> Problem 2: Is there any way to disable that "pull up to unlock" lock screen when the monitor wakes up again? I feel "Metrocalypsed"
[18:20] <SonikkuAmerica> B_Jay: Well, the "pull up to unlock" lock screen is a part of GDM
[18:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh crap, left
[18:21] <SonikkuAmerica> query B_Jay
[20:20] <basso> kudos
[20:21] <basso> good stuffs, even gnome3 ppa works fine
[20:22] <basso> And the font rendering is very good
[20:22] <basso> first time i liked the font rendering stock
[20:50] <Ng4B33-28> hello ...I am the new one
[22:04] <basso> mmm


[01:56] <akgraner> Crap I thought I deleted all those
[01:56] <akgraner> yep it's arm now
[01:57] <MrChrisDruif> Well...apparently you didn't =)
[01:58] <akgraner> Well it is now
[01:58] <MrChrisDruif> Great =)
[01:59] <akgraner> you'll still see it in the weeks prior
[02:00] <MrChrisDruif> Alright
[02:00] <akgraner> MrChrisDruif, David Mandala is the manger for that team- I emailed him last week  - not sure why all the changes didn't show
[02:00] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, well I don't know myself =)
[02:01] <akgraner> just letting you know what mangers go with what teams just so  you know that's all - sorta an FYI :-)
[02:01] <akgraner> managers even
[02:01] <akgraner> jeez I shouldn't type when I am taking allergy meds :-/
[02:06] <akgraner> night :-)
[02:11] <MrChrisDruif> Sleep well akgraner =)
[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[13:11] <MrChrisDruif> akgraner; Lubuntu's next meeting is today, should we include that meeting minutes or the previous? Same with Xubuntu meeting..
[13:12] <akgraner> It would be today's meeting
[13:12] <akgraner> the meetings that fall on the dates that the newsletter covers
[13:13] <MrChrisDruif> Alright
[13:13] <MrChrisDruif> Btw, good morning =)
[13:13] <akgraner> morning :-)
[13:14] <MrChrisDruif> Afternoon for me actually =D
[13:21] <akgraner> :-) lucky you
[13:22] <MrChrisDruif> Well, yes and no =)
[13:22] <MrChrisDruif> Every advantage has it disadvantages =)
[16:09] <dholbach> bkerensa, I'll be on holidays from 8th-14th, but I'll still get the dev update out tomorrow (only a few bits left)


[01:05] <cjwatson> jdstrand: Yeah, I'm working through all this in bulk.
[01:05] <cjwatson> jdstrand: And the builder situation is, well, not fixed but at least limping along now.
[12:50] <rsalveti> cyphermox: do we have daily images for the netboot installer?
[13:57] <cyphermox> rsalveti: of course
[13:57] <cyphermox> err, wait
[13:57] <cyphermox> not daily
[13:57] <cyphermox> but one for every upload of d-i
[13:59] <rsalveti> right, was looking for one that includes latest grub2
[13:59] <rsalveti> but saw that it is still ftbfs on arm64
[14:01] <cyphermox> grub isn't included in these images, so you could pick any and you should get the latest grub2, as long are you don't preseed things
[14:02] <cyphermox> (if you preseed, just make sure you don't get it to expect a squashfs, otherwise you'll get what is on the squashfs)
[14:04]  * cyphermox looks at grub2 arm64
[14:17] <rsalveti> right, all I really wanted was the latest grub2
[14:17] <rsalveti> that includes the network efi changes
[14:18] <rsalveti> hitting that on the arm servers we're using as well
[14:20] <ogra_> just switch to u-boot then :P
[14:20] <cyphermox> rsalveti: the before-last should work
[14:21] <rsalveti> indeed
[14:21] <rsalveti> ogra_: lol, arm servers dude
[14:21] <ogra_> pfft
[14:21] <rsalveti> ogra_: acpi, uefi, all the good stuff :P
[14:21] <cyphermox> the new one breaks because of a relocation that is now needed that grub doesn't know about yet: R_AARCH64_ADR_PREL_PG_HI21
[14:21] <ogra_> yeah, the stuff nobody needs :P
[14:23]  * ogra_ guesses rsalveti is just scared about jon masters hunting him down :D
[14:24] <rsalveti> lol
[14:31] <rsalveti> cyphermox: maybe https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:Factory/grub2/aarch64-reloc.patch ?
[14:31] <cyphermox> it's not the same one
[14:31] <cyphermox> 0x113
[14:32] <rsalveti> right
[14:32] <rsalveti> but saw we don't carry that patch, available in all other distros
[14:33] <cyphermox> otoh I could try it, but it doesn't seem to be the same thing
[14:33] <cyphermox> fwiw, this is black magic to me ;)
[14:33] <rsalveti> I'm firing up my local build and should know soon
[14:34] <cyphermox> it would be nice to understand what build-depends on grub2 now causes this
[14:47] <rsalveti> only one extra patch (CVE) and including raid5rec and raid6rec, so wonder if it was affected by a different toolchain version or similar
[14:47] <rsalveti> still building...
[14:51] <rsalveti> cyphermox: yeah, built fine on jessie, without that patch
[14:52] <cyphermox> right
[14:52] <cyphermox> well, we'll see soon.
[14:52] <rsalveti> cyphermox: mind giving http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grub.git/commit/?id=668add258ff7ffcfdc2c501fe5eb32e53c69b6f4 a try then?
[14:52] <rsalveti> oh, cool
[14:53] <rsalveti> already upstream for a while
[14:53] <cyphermox> yeah, but did it work for your build?
[14:54] <rsalveti> was expecting to get the failure on jessie, so guess we can only reproduce this on xenial
[14:54] <cyphermox> yeah
[14:54] <rsalveti> cyphermox: do you have an arm64 box with xenial or a ppa that can build for this arch?
[14:54] <cyphermox> ok then, I'll ship it to my ppa first to try, but it might take a while
[14:54] <cyphermox> yeah, PPA
[14:55] <cyphermox> I didn't go out to order an arm64 board yet
[14:55] <rsalveti> that's fine, cool, thanks
[14:55] <rsalveti> soon
[14:55] <rsalveti> :-)
[15:58] <lamont> who is my favorite admin archive today>?
[15:58]  * lamont needs a couple of binary NEW processings in xenial
[16:22] <cjwatson> lamont: done
[16:25] <lamont> ta