[12:00] <guydebord> The wireless is configured with wlan  IEEE 802.11g
[12:00] <nalioth> GlobeCoder: please dont use the <enter> key for puntucation
[12:01] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  would changing the scan rates and altering the xorg.conf file the same way you would for a monitor not also effect the res in a virtual machine?
[12:02] <strokey> Any ubuntu pro here? What can help me with the fear of the installer? ;o
[12:02] <nalioth> thewayofzen: i'm not too familiar with VMs
[12:02] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  neither am i but it stands to reason that it likely would function the same way..
[12:02] <Agamotto> Hallo all
[12:02] <gnomefreak> strokey,  stick the cd in and run it nothing to fear
[12:02] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  res is res and all u know?
[12:02] <bur[n] er> strokey: drink a beer or smoke a bowl ;)
[12:02] <GlobeCoder> Seveas
[12:02] <GlobeCoder> what if i just reinstall it? :F
[12:02] <strokey> i can do them 2
[12:02] <strokey> but i mean the partitions ;x
[12:02] <DuDE27> little request for dapper/breezy-backports :) new mplayer cvs version which depends on GTK-2
[12:02] <gnomefreak> strokey,  if you installed windows you can install ubuntu
[12:02] <strokey> can it auto make them? ;d
[12:02] <Zedugh> gimmulf, vga should work but only with lower color depth (8?) and 640x480, not sure what the correct (non-proprietary) driver is, but could give "radeon" a try
[12:02] <GlobeCoder> is there an optional way to just reinstall the stuff you want to
[12:03] <Agamotto> Anyone here know/use software under linux that converts .avi and other video formats to the one used on regular DVD players?
[12:03] <strokey> gnomefreak: i know i can, ive done it twice, i just lost access to my windows drive both times :d
[12:03] <navarone> stroky> resize existing partion and then let ubuntu install in freespace you made
[12:03] <nalioth> thewayofzen: it's a virtual machine, try it
[12:03] <frank23> Agamotto: google for  tovid
[12:03] <gnomefreak> strokey, how many hard drives?
[12:03] <thewayofzen>  Agamotto  im going to guess transcode.. from what nalioth showed me the other day.
[12:03] <strokey> gnomefreak: 1, no partitions
[12:03] <Agamotto> frank23:  Thank you
[12:03] <Agamotto> Two ideas... even better
[12:03] <GlobeCoder> who made ubuntu?
[12:04] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  :) i dont have a VM i was trying  reason out a fix for GlobeCoder .. even though hes "not that stupid" ;)
[12:04] <gnomefreak> ok that leaves me out ive never attempted to resize any of my drives
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> The_wow
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> thewayofzen *
[12:04] <frank23> Agamotto: np
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> dont be like that
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> what i meant was
[12:04] <gnomefreak> GlobeCoder,  there are a  bunch of people that make ubuntu its a whole team
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> i know you cant get scan rates with a screenshot
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> -_-
[12:04] <nalioth> GlobeCoder: please write in complete sentences
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> i meant to get a screenshot
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> of what i see.
[12:04] <GlobeCoder> ..
[12:04] <gnomefreak> ok lets see if this time its fixed brb
[12:04] <navarone> stroky> easiest thing is to buy a new drive even 40gb would be cheap. Install that and let ubuntu take over whole drive...:)
[12:04] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder,  you can get the RESOLUTION with a screenshot.  1024x864 is not your scan rates
[12:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell GlobeCoder about enter
[12:05] <GlobeCoder> nalioth, i alreayd stopped
[12:05] <GlobeCoder> ffs
[12:05] <strokey> navarone: im so broke i can hardly afford my own bread
[12:05] <randy> Well "apt-get build-dep gnomebaker" didn't seem to do anything.  Nothing was installed.
[12:05] <guydebord> Ok, wireless problems. First open Network settings properties. ITs ok that ethernet interface and wireless interface are both active right?
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> randy,  check your current dir. I thought that installed stuff there. (the source)
[12:07] <GlobeCoder> thewayofzen
[12:07] <GlobeCoder> you got msn?
[12:07] <navarone> stroky> then let installer make the current one smaller. The space you take from the primary could be used for ubuntu. But defrag windows first if it is installed...back up any data and after partion is resized allow installer to install on "largest freespace" and that would be the space you freed up
[12:07] <Weng> base-config base-config/late_command string cd /var/apt ; wget --reply=yes http://<IP_ADDRESS>/sources.list ; apt-get apache2 ; apt-get tftpd-hpa ; cd / ; wget -r -nH http://<IP_ADDRESS>/spawn/ ; reboot
[12:07] <randy> Dr_Willis:  Nope.  nothing there.  Reading package lists... Done...Building dependency tree... Done. and then I'm back at the prompt.
[12:08] <Weng> err
[12:08] <strokey> navarone: so resize partiton to say, 90 gigs
[12:08] <Weng> wrong window
[12:08] <Weng> and that's wrong
[12:08] <strokey> and ubuntu will install on the rest?
[12:08] <navarone> stroky> what is curretn hard drive size?
[12:08] <strokey> 114gb
[12:08] <strokey> i have 0 partitions , does that make it easier? ;o
[12:08] <gigio83> hi, i'm new ther
[12:09] <gigio83> aby of you can help me???
[12:09] <gigio83> any
[12:09] <navarone> Yes strokey...I installed ubuntu on new 250 gb...partioned for windows and left 14 gb for ubuntu
[12:09] <tiramisu> gimmulf: hora
[12:09] <strokey> so partition 100 gigs and its all good
[12:09] <gimmulf> ;>
[12:09] <strokey> ?
[12:09] <Agamotto> strokey:  You could try four partitions.  One for Win, the second for you music and games under Win.  Third for root, and fourth for /home of your linux
[12:09] <gigio83> i have a problem with gnome desktop
[12:09] <Ophiocus> is there a way to resize partitions without loosing data during the installation process
[12:09] <linkd> gigio83: whats the problem?
[12:09] <gigio83> i don't view normal ion of "mycomputre, trash & other"
[12:10] <gigio83> ion = icon
[12:10] <tiramisu> please help gimmulf with his problem
[12:10] <strokey> Agamotto: that sounds far too complicated, i only want to try and get internet on linux :x
[12:10] <gimmulf> tiramisu: why its solved
[12:10] <gimmulf> :)
[12:10] <strokey> its never worked for me before and apparently it needs to be install for ndiswarpper to wrok
[12:10] <navarone> Stroky...you put in the size you want the windows area to be...100gb and that will free up the space for ubuntu. But like I said defrag first so no windows data is trapped on linux part
[12:10] <nalioth> gigio83: if you ask a question
[12:10] <Zedugh> gimmulf, how'd you fix it?
[12:10] <strokey> so defrag
[12:10] <strokey> install ubuntu?
[12:10] <strokey> ;o
[12:10] <Agamotto> strokey: Fair enough
[12:10] <gigio83> i don't view normal icon of "mycomputre, trash & other"???
[12:10] <gigio83> in Gnome
[12:11] <gimmulf> Zedugh: to old radeon drivers with X.org
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> gigio83,  Huh?
[12:11] <gimmulf> gotto apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:11] <Agamotto> gigio83:  Is this something that has happened recenly, or have you just installed?
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> gigio83,  theres a little trash can at the bottom right - in the task bar.
[12:11] <gigio83> i have just install
[12:11] <gigio83> ubuntu
[12:11] <gigio83> before i have debian for 1 year
[12:11] <navarone> strokey> Agamotto is right. I hard a fat32 partition on primary drive...and a larger one on the new drive. Primary fat is for music shared between os's and the secondary fat32 is for possibly backing up my systems
[12:11] <tiramisu> gimmulf: stay away from those drivers!!!
[12:11] <tiramisu> de r dliga
[12:12] <nalioth> gigio83: did install from a cd, or upgrade from a previous version of ubuntu?
[12:12] <gigio83> from cd
[12:12] <gp> Unzip .ZIP files in Ubuntu?
[12:12] <gigio83> yes the trah at right i viewed
[12:12] <tiramisu> gp: unzip
[12:12] <linkd> lol
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> gp,  the 'unzip' command can do that. :P amazing eh?
[12:12] <GlobeCoder> http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/9913/lll0ne.png
[12:12] <GlobeCoder> how to fix?
[12:12] <Agamotto> gigio83:  Ubuntu handles the displaying of icons a bit differently.  You can add these icons to your panels.  Find an empty place in your panel, right click, and add object
[12:12] <gigio83> but my computer icon isn't
[12:13] <Zedugh> gimmulf, you might want to check out package xorg-driver-fglrx for accelerated ati driver
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> gigio83,  so are you saying its messed up? or  perhaps you are just expting a  windows clone. :P
[12:13] <gigio83> eh eh
[12:13] <navarone> Globe> look like you need new vid drivers
[12:13] <gimmulf> Zedugh:  that was the one i got
[12:13] <benplaut> ^^what he said
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> i got my system so tweaked - not even sure what the gnome/ubuntu defaults are any more.
[12:13] <GlobeCoder> http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/9913/lll0ne.png
[12:13] <GlobeCoder> how to fix?
[12:13] <tiramisu> gimmulf: why not the newer ati-drivers?
[12:13] <Lovecraft> wasaaaaaaaa cauross
[12:13] <Agamotto> gigio83:  It has been moved to the menu item called Places
[12:13] <Zedugh> gimmulf, ok then
[12:14] <Lovecraft> ahh puros gringos en esta weaaaaaaaaa
[12:14] <gigio83> i'm accustomed to gnome debian desktop
[12:14] <Agamotto> gigio83: Italiano?
[12:14] <Lovecraft> gringos culiaos .. chupen la que cuelgaaaaaaaa
[12:14] <Lovecraft> ajajaja
[12:14] <gigio83> yes
[12:14] <apokryphos> English only in here
[12:14] <Lovecraft> ^
[12:14] <strokey> navarone: i dont get it, why would i need all that? :x
[12:14] <gigio83> ciao agamotto
[12:14] <Agamotto> Ah, leave him alone he is doing ok with his english
[12:14] <corvax> walmart has a laptop onsale tommorrow $378  for wireless it says 54g 802.11b/g WLAN with 125HSM/SpeedBooster support
[12:14] <capacitacion> esos que peds
[12:15] <corvax> im trying to find out
[12:15] <corvax> if ill be able to get it working
[12:15] <corvax> with ndiswrappers
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  cool... goo bad im broke. :P what brand?
[12:15] <corvax> or natively
[12:15] <navarone> strokey> you dont...but a fat 32 partion would allow you to transfer files to the windows side
[12:15] <corvax> but not sure what chipeset it uses
[12:15] <GlobeCoder> http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/9913/lll0ne.png
[12:15] <GlobeCoder> how to fix?
[12:15] <navarone> Globe...dl new vid drivers
[12:15] <tiramisu> wtf!!!!
[12:16] <corvax> hp
[12:16] <tiramisu> GlobeCoder: stop spamming
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> ...
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> im not spamming, im trying to get help
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> ffs
[12:16] <gigio83> i have another problem: a window error message at start
[12:16] <tiramisu> yeah by being a total jerk
[12:16] <corvax> the only specs i could find
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> ...
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  it turion based? hp and compaq  have some dang near identical low end laptops
[12:16] <corvax> are here
[12:16] <nalioth> GlobeCoder: please be civil
[12:16] <corvax> http://www.infobama.com/bargain/laptop.html
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> ...
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> wtf
[12:16] <navarone> Globe> if your video is messsed up try getting new vid drivers
[12:16] <GlobeCoder> ...........
[12:16] <nalioth> GlobeCoder: last warning
[12:16] <tiramisu> GlobeCoder: try to change the rez or driver
[12:16] <Agamotto> gigio83: benvenuto al nostro posto piccolo
[12:17] <GlobeCoder> ....
[12:17] <gigio83> Error activating XKB configuration.
[12:17] <gigio83> It can happen under various circumstances:
[12:17] <gigio83> - a bug in libxklavier library
[12:17] <gigio83> - a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)
[12:17] <gigio83> - X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[12:17] <gigio83> X server version data:
[12:17] <corvax> semperon i guess
[12:17] <gigio83> The X.Org Foundation
[12:17] <gigio83> 60802000
[12:17] <gigio83> If you report this situation as a bug, please include:
[12:17] <GlobeCoder> lmao
[12:17] <gigio83> - The result of xprop -root | grep XKB
[12:17] <linkd> outoh
[12:17] <guydebord> Funny, just installed XChat on my windows laptop and there is no Join Server option.  How can I join ubuntu channel?
[12:17] <tiramisu> guydebord: /join #channel
[12:17] <gigio83> Agamotto: grazie
[12:17] <nalioth> gigio83: please dont paste in here
[12:17] <rixth> That might've been my least most painful Linux install ever.
[12:17] <_native_> w00t!
[12:17] <gigio83> sorry
[12:17] <GlobeCoder> how can i change the resolution?
[12:17] <rixth> Everything just worked(tm)
[12:17] <GlobeCoder> since i can barely see the menu
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> guydebord,  theres server stuff in the menus. you can set what channels to autojoin
[12:17] <_native_> ah ha ;]
[12:18] <rixth> GlobeCoder, I told you FFS!
[12:18] <gigio83> but is my error
[12:18] <tiramisu> GlobeCoder: in you xorg.conf file
[12:18] <psyke> hi, does anyone know if the r128 driver supports "AGPMode"? I only have 8mb video memory, but I cannot get dri on resolutions >1024x768. Can I increase the AGP aperture with this driver?
[12:18] <corvax> i see best buy has on for $379 too with the celeron m
[12:18] <navarone> rixth> it's a nice change eh?
[12:18] <nalioth> corvax: take that to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:18] <GlobeCoder> tiramisu, how can i access that, its on virtual hd?
[12:18] <michuk> l
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  i dont see it at the walmart.com :P
[12:18] <GlobeCoder> rixth, it doesnt work what you told me
[12:18] <GlobeCoder> -_-
[12:19] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: y'all talk about black friday in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  i got a Low end Compaq V2311 laptop. was like $500 - its not bad linux wise.
[12:19] <rixth> navarone, totally. THe graphical boot process is somewhat... dissapointing?
[12:19] <tiramisu> GlobeCoder: look in the /etc/ dir
[12:19] <rixth> GlobeCoder, then run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> corvax,  ubuntu 5.10 seems to work a lot better in laptops
[12:19] <Agamotto> gigio83:  /join #ubuntu-it per supporto in Italiano
[12:19] <GlobeCoder> ...nvm
[12:19] <navarone> rixth> I find that bringing network interface up takes so long that it goes to text boot screen...lol
[12:19] <GlobeCoder> this linux is weird lmao
[12:19] <linkd> :/
[12:20] <nalioth> navarone: welcome to the club
[12:20] <tiramisu> yes!
[12:20] <tiramisu> finally, total noob
[12:20] <Sanne> kernel 2.6.12-10-k7 is running, thanks to all who helped with the suggestion.
[12:20] <corvax> walmart one se here http://walmart.richfx.com.edgesuite.net/catalog_walmart/electronics_flyer_2005/index.aspx?banner=No%20Rebates.%20%20No%20Hassles.%20Just%20Unbeatable%20Prices.&eDate=Effective%20Friday,%20Nov.%2025,%205am%20-%2011am&rfx_dontcache=&drpStoreID=2228&store=555%20Hubbard%20Ave./Suite%2012%2CPittsfield%2CMA%2C1201&zip=1201
[12:20] <corvax> ugh
[12:20] <tiramisu> gah
[12:20] <apokryphos> tinyurl.com :)
[12:20] <corvax> lmao
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> Lol.
[12:20] <rixth> nalioth, don't
[12:21] <nalioth> corvax: this channel is for ubuntu help, not advertising
[12:21] <nalioth> corvax: please join #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss black friday, there are many who will join you there
[12:21] <rixth> Hmmm yeah, I'm sure he benefits from posting links to Walmart.
[12:21] <corvax> hey im not "advertising"
[12:21] <corvax> i asked a question
[12:21] <tiramisu> yes you are
[12:21] <tiramisu> i know you work there
[12:22] <corvax> im awaiting an answer
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> im sure many people got no idea what you mean by 'black friday' also.
[12:22] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: then join #ubuntu-offtopic with corvax and i'll explain it
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> took me a min or to to reaize what ya ment. :p
[12:22] <Stormx2> Pablo: Like black sabbath ;-)
[12:22] <tiramisu> gimmulf: hr r du ju bland vnner
[12:22] <corvax> i asked if anyone knew what chipset it used
[12:22] <corvax> because i want to use it with ubuntu
[12:23] <tiramisu> corvax: ever tried google?
[12:23] <Sanne> I need to disable a module from getting loaded (sym53c8xx, scsi adapter with Symbios Logic chip). I put it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist, but it gets loaded nevertheless. Do I have other options?
[12:23] <corvax> and if i cant get wireless to work
[12:23] <Agamotto> Pablo:  It is an American expression for the day that retailers finally make money, ie.  are 'in the black.'
[12:23] <Pablo> oh
[12:23] <corvax> google is your friend is the new RTFM
[12:23] <Pablo> thanks Agamotto
[12:23] <mjk64> Pablo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_friday
[12:23] <Zugwrack> Hey everyone...I am running PowerPC and am wondering if there are libs or filesystem stuff that need to be installed to be able and mount my /dev/hda3 partition as hfs? I am installed on /dev/hdb, but need read access to some files on the primary drive...
[12:23] <nalioth> corvax: they will both work with ubuntu. the toshiba from bb will work with native drivers, the HP with ndiswrapper
[12:23] <corvax> which usually means i dont know
[12:23] <tiramisu> Zugwrack: yeah, like module hfs
[12:24] <corvax> well nalioth ill take your word for it
[12:24] <corvax> thank you
[12:24] <Agamotto> Zugwrack:  hfs module/s need to be loaded in the kernel... after that, perhaps some hfs tools
[12:24] <corvax> does the hp use broadcom?
[12:24] <nalioth> corvax: if you join #ubuntu i'll send you links to show you everything
[12:24] <nalioth> corvax: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:25] <navarone> nalioth...i looked around to see if I was in right channel...<s>
[12:25] <Zugwrack> tiramisu, Agamotto: Thanks...so you are saying I can just modprobe them? Or I still need to use synaptic to install first?
[12:25] <gigio83> i have a window error title "Error activating XKB configuration" can you help me
[12:25] <Agamotto> Synaptic would be easiest
[12:25] <arnducky> Watchoo smilin 'bout, Willis?!
[12:25] <Zedugh> i looked, don't see any hfs packages in the repos
[12:26] <PinTo> i cant remember who was helpin me b4....but i downloaded a Bz2 file..now i have extracted it i have file that says pakages...wot do i do with it?
[12:26] <corvax> maybe this channel should be  ubuntu-help?  it implies general  but the topic indicates otherwise
[12:26] <arnducky> Zedugh, as in to read Apples HFS ?
[12:26] <nalioth> Zedugh: hfs for what?
[12:26] <Zugwrack> Nevermind...I just modprobed and grepped it...lsmod shows it is loaded now.
[12:26] <Agamotto> PinTo:  dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb
[12:26] <jefferson> asdf
[12:27] <PinTo> Agamotto i dont think dpkg works for some reason
[12:27] <PinTo> command unknow
[12:27] <navarone> Agamotto> Any experience using ghost 4 linux from freshmeat/sourceforge? I am thinking of using it to backup my oper-sys's...anyone
[12:27] <Agamotto> Zugwrack:  You should be able to mount/unmount the hfs volumes now
[12:27] <mjk64> Damn! During installation, I accidentally answered one question wrong in the "Configure apt"-dialog, and now I cannot repeat that configuration! FSCK it! Any hints for the command line or so? dpkt-reconfigure apt doesn't work, says "apt is not fully installed"
[12:27] <Weng> which question was it?
[12:27] <Agamotto> navarone:  Yes, I have used it with an external hd, but I haven't tried anything like DVDs to backup yet
[12:28] <Agamotto> PinTo:  What disto are you running?
[12:28] <mjk64> Weng: I think "do you want to use backported software", but not sure
[12:28] <mjk64> Weng: Anyway, I wanted a *clean* install this time :-(
[12:28] <Zedugh> had to reload repos, Zugwrack, you might want to check out packages hfsplus and/or hfsutils
[12:28] <nalioth> navarone: search newsforge.com for the article on g4l, they had a good one a month or so ago
[12:29] <Weng> mjk64: I don't even remember that being an option, and I've installed like 80 times in the past few days.
[12:29] <navarone> Agamotto> Okay...I was going to use it to backup to fat32 partition on second drive. I had it for windows backup but made it too small...however the compression in ghost may help...any pointers in usage offhand?
[12:29] <mjk64> Weng: :-)
[12:29] <Agamotto> navarone:  Run it, choose a medium level of compression, and go have a bowl or two of soup
[12:29] <mjk64> Weng: I started installation using "expert" for maximum control - and now I have to discover that I do *not* have maximum control, damnit! Why can't I just restart that !%%& dialog?
[12:29] <navarone> soup...? <s>
[12:30] <Weng> ahhh
[12:30] <Agamotto> navarone:  Takes longer to consume than cereal usually :)
[12:30] <gigio83> nobody have a reply?
[12:30] <vbgunz> anyone know how to restart the mouse?
[12:30] <Weng> mjk64: you should be able to just pound on "go back" and it'll give you a menu eventually where you can move to whatever step you want
[12:30] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: Yep got it thanks...now the next problem is that I use a different username when booted to OS X...not sure if I create that username in Ubuntu I will be able to su as that user and access my /home folder...anyone know?
[12:30] <Weng> you may have to go back to a step before it, though.
[12:31] <mjk64> Weng: No chance. :-(
[12:31] <Agamotto> gigio83:  Unfortunately, that can be caused by many things.  What were you trying to do?
[12:31] <navarone> Agamotto> are the utilities for cleaning and such included and executable from menu?
[12:31] <Agamotto> navarone: Yes
[12:31] <mjk64> Weng: Older items like "Set up users and  passwords" don't work anymore, either. :-((
[12:31] <strokey> im going to go install ubuntu, while installing, can anyone tell me what to do with 150 ubuntu cds? ><
[12:31] <navarone> ty
[12:31] <levander> I've got a hung cdrecord process.  I can't even kill it with -9.  Anybody know what to do to kill it?
[12:31] <gigio83> agamotto: can i contact you in private?
[12:31] <navarone> strokey> distribute...<s>
[12:31] <Agamotto> strokey:  give them to friends
[12:31] <strokey> they dont wnat them
[12:31] <levander> levander: Anything I can do with the CD drive?
[12:31] <Agamotto> gigio83:  Yes, you may
[12:31] <Weng> strokey: Either give them away, or tile a room with them
[12:31] <strokey> i asked for 5
[12:31] <strokey> :x
[12:32] <Weng> If you have a local computer recycling organization, go "donate" them :P
[12:32] <nalioth> strokey: have an install party
[12:32] <Niklas-of-Vienna> hi fredd
[12:32] <mjk64> What is this "%&?%?   That's why I'm using Linux, goddamnit! And now I'm restricted as in Windows :-((
[12:32] <vbgunz> I have a problem where sometimes after idling on Ubuntu and letting the screensaver come up for a bit and logging back in, the mouse doesn't work. How do I restart the mouse?
[12:32] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, only if the numerical userid's are the same on both systems, and then I'm still not sure with hfs
[12:32] <nalioth> Weng: not that! hand them out to your local LUG, the univesitry, the libraries, etc
[12:33] <Weng> nalioth: Don't knock us computer recyclers :P
[12:33] <strokey> i might adress them
[12:33] <strokey> to random people in toulouse
[12:33] <levander> vbgunz: not that this is a great solution, but if it's a USB mouse, you could try unplug/plug back in
[12:33] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: hmmm...interesting..guess it can't hurt to try though...thanks..I assume you are PPC too?
[12:33] <strokey> oh and btw
[12:33] <guydebord2> okay two lptps connected
[12:33] <vbgunz> levander: it is a usb mouse and I tried that... It doesn't come back :(
[12:33] <strokey> does anyone have any ideas to get my usb wireless stick working without ndiswrapper?
[12:33] <strokey> so i can try as soon as i install
[12:34] <vbgunz> I am sure there is a way to restart the mouse... I usually always have a terminal on screen at least on one of my desktops... I just don't know how to restart the mouse... Anybody have any idea how to restart the mouse? Please, any help is appreciated!
[12:34] <Zedugh> No, but have mounted other distro partitions with files owned by same user name, and know the fs stores the uid, not the name
[12:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone please email me the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> strokey,  check the ubuntu wiki's for your specific card/brand?  if it needs ndiswrapper.. then it needs it. :P end of story.
[12:34] <gigio83> Agamotto: receive my private message?
[12:34] <bluefire> I am wondering, how do you upgrade through the terminal?
[12:35] <strokey> Dr_Willis: i currently cant access any websites right now
[12:35] <strokey> thats why im asking :x
[12:35] <Moco> Hello, all. When I try "sudo apt-get source gcc-2.95" it returns "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[12:35] <Moco> " What does that mean?
[12:35] <strokey> rd
[12:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Moco about repos
[12:35] <strokey> i dont know if it needs it, ive never really put much effort into it
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> strokey,  you are online now.. :P   catch 22? or are we missing some details?
[12:35] <strokey> im on windows
[12:35] <nalioth> Moco: enable your source repos, following those instructions
[12:35] <Agamotto> gigio83:  No, I did not.  We aren't allowed as unregistered users.  Please join me on #nicechat
[12:35] <Moco> Which instructions
[12:36] <gigio83> ok
[12:36] <guydebord2> Im trying to configure my wireless connection. I have ubuntu with GNOME. ndiswrapper is unpackaged. First I deactivate all connections
[12:36] <nalioth> Moco: look at your private messages
[12:36] <mcjerry> I have an amd64 i need to run in i32 mode, could someone please send me link where to get 2.6.15 kernel
[12:36] <Moco> Oh, thanks.
[12:36] <strokey> Agamotto: make some random name and do /msg nickserv register thisisarandompass
[12:36] <Agamotto> BBIAB
[12:36] <holycow> hey all
[12:36] <TROGDOR42> lol good luck Guydebord2... that''s hard has heck
[12:37] <strokey> ok bye, im off to install ubuntu
[12:37] <strokey> ;o
[12:37] <TROGDOR42> w00t!
[12:37] <TROGDOR42> may the force be with you strokey
[12:37] <strokey> may good luck be on my side and i get the inet just magiccly ;o
[12:37] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: Yep you must be right..I tried creating my username...su'ed and it won't let me access my documents folder...dang it...
[12:37] <GTroy> Guydebord2: do you know if you have the .inf driver?
[12:38] <guydebord2> The thing is the wireless connection already has been set up and works at a freinds house
[12:38] <TROGDOR42> That's odd
[12:38] <Moco> How do you check pms?
[12:38] <guydebord2> I just want to configure it to my own IP
[12:38] <Moco> Pm's
[12:38] <Moco> Ahh, nvm..
[12:38] <GTroy> guydebord2: you've used wireless at home right?
[12:39] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, can you cd to your hfs partition and ls?
[12:39] <guydebord2> yes
[12:39] <mjk64> FSCKing Ubuntu installer ... I guess the Debian installer wouldn't let me re-configure already configured items, either ... So I have to repeat the whole Ubuntu installation again tomorrow. :-(  Anyway, thanks all for your help!
[12:39] <GTroy> guy: can you tail /var/log/syslog?
[12:40] <kkko> how do i join the bug-report channel?
[12:40] <TROGDOR42> i believe it's /join #ubuntu-bugs
[12:40] <kkko> thanks!
[12:41] <guydebord2> no permission denied. Have to be in root no?
[12:41] <GTroy> yeah
[12:43] <guydebord2> Gtroy command not found after sudo
[12:43] <GTroy> hmmm
[12:44] <Zedugh> Zugwrack? (as root) cd to your hfs documents folder and ls -ln
[12:44] <GTroy> have you modrpobed ndiswrapper?
[12:44] <GTroy> I have to every time I boot up
[12:44] <GTroy> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:44] <guydebord2> what
[12:44] <GTroy> yep
[12:44] <guydebord2> whats modprobe commmand
[12:45] <thom__> does ubuntu use alsa?
[12:45] <GTroy> loads ndiswrapper
[12:45] <GTroy> i think
[12:45] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: Sorry..yes I can get there and see everything...I just don't have access to /Users/<myusername>/Documents
[12:45] <GTroy> can't use ndiswrapper without it
[12:45] <thom__> how do i restart or reconfigure sound
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> thom__,  yes.
[12:45] <gimmulf> What should i do to fix the bug that the menu doesnt get any software on it in fluxbox?
[12:45] <thom__> i tried alsaconf
[12:45] <thom__> or is it alsaconfig
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> - /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[12:46] <thom__> trouble is mt game sound went off on bzflag
[12:46] <thom__> ok
[12:46] <tommy> if i recall correctly, i had to compile from source to get alsaconf on ubuntu
[12:46] <thom__> usually i have to restart it
[12:46] <GTroy> guydebord2: you'll have to activate your connection too
[12:46] <nomed> hi all
[12:46] <thom__> thanks doc
[12:46] <guydebord2> ok
[12:46] <nomed> how can i customize the usplash image?
[12:46] <Moco> Thanks so much. It works!
[12:47] <nomed> i tried following the infos on the wiki ..
[12:47] <Moco> @ ubotu & nalioth
[12:47] <nomed> but it seems the image need to be on a particular format i can't fugure out
[12:47] <kkko> has anyone managed to play embedded media, and if so, what did you use?
[12:47] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, if you sudo ls -ln, the 2nd and 3rd columns will be the numerical ids of the owning user and group, you need to have/create a user and group with those specific numerical ids on you ubuntu system and su to that user
[12:47] <gimmulf> I just started fluxbox but theres no items on the menu?
[12:47] <thom__> Dr_Willis: that dont work,
[12:47] <nomed> 16 color PNG ... and i have such image but it doesn't work
[12:48] <thom__> Dr_Willis: says restart method is depreciated
[12:48] <Sparky_> Hello everyone
[12:48] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: Ok thanks for the patience...I am just learning :-O
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> try stoping it and then starting it. :P
[12:48] <thom__> some things seem more difficult in ubuntu
[12:48] <thom__> ok
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> or just reboot. :P thats the standard 'windows' answer.
[12:49] <gimmulf> I just started fluxbox but theres no items on the menu? someone know what to do?
[12:49] <TROGDOR42> Ugh
[12:49] <thom__> Dr_Willis: says use alsa-utils initscript, so ill try that
[12:49] <Sparky_> Anyone have any experience with HP Laserjet 1000 printers and Kubuntu 5.10??
[12:49] <kkko> hello?
[12:49] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, np, if you use the gui user admin tool, the advanced tab lets you specify the numerical ids you want (if not already in use)
[12:49] <TROGDOR42> By the way windows haters spell it "Windoze"
[12:49] <TROGDOR42> ;)
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> Winedos
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:50] <TROGDOR42> lol
[12:50] <Sparky_> Trog: but what if you're 'windows tolerant'?  The difference is in the level of support and the pricetag.
[12:51] <thom__> is restarting sound disabled or something
[12:51] <Sparky_> trogdor, yup
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> WIndows has support?
[12:51] <tommy> sudo killall alsa
[12:51] <tommy> try that
[12:51] <thom__> ok
[12:51] <TROGDOR42> I am somewhat tolerant, meaning i'll play counterstrike in windows
[12:51] <Sparky_>  windows=high price, higher price for support...
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> amazing how little support ive ever gotten from the 'official' support stuff from  the companies  :P
[12:52] <Stormx2> I GOT MY UBUNTU CDS TODAY :D
[12:52] <thom__> tommy: ok so i kill it, says no process killed
[12:52] <Sparky_> plays 'Renegade Paintball' in windows and uses his work e-mail and the help-ticket system, since they're all active X based and Mozilla/Firefox or Konqueror won't run them..
[12:52] <TROGDOR42> Yeah, ship it is amazing, eh?
[12:52] <tommy> then its not running
[12:52] <guydebord2> im still here though
[12:52] <tommy> just type
[12:52] <tommy> alsa
[12:52] <Weng> Heh, I always find it amusing how much stuff I've had to learn about Linux/BSD/whatever over the years by sitting there screaming at my workstation
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> #1 answer "Try some random reinstall/twiddle, and hope it works"
[12:52] <tommy> that should start it
[12:52] <Weng> because something wouldn't work quite right
[12:52] <gimmulf> I just started fluxbox but theres no items on the menu? someone know what to do? how do i get fluxbox reading my config again from terminal.
[12:52] <GTroy> no solution yet eh?
[12:52] <thom__> alsa command not found
[12:53] <Weng> Windows, shit tends to either work right or not work at all. Linux/BSD, it'll KIND OF WORK
[12:53] <Weng> which is more of a bitch than not working at all.
[12:53] <thom__> tommy: maybe its not using alsa
[12:53] <Zedugh> thom_, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa start
[12:53] <thom__> k
[12:53] <tommy> hmm, and /etc/init.d/alsa start didnt work either?
[12:54] <niterider> hello
[12:54] <navarone> gimmulf> try  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87351
[12:54] <tommy> oh beat me to it
[12:54] <guydebord2> Does anyone know what the WEP key is in Network Settings, Wireless interface properties
[12:54] <thom__>  Warning: Use the alsa-utils initscript instead.
[12:54] <thom__>  * Setting up ALSA...
[12:54] <niterider> is there a working version of skype for breezy
[12:54] <apokryphos> !skype
[12:54] <ubotu> well, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:54] <thom__> i guess it worked
[12:54] <niterider> k
[12:56] <thom__> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa start
[12:56] <thom__>  works, thanks now i got game sound
[12:56] <Sparky_> anyone have any hints on how to get a lj1000 working?
[12:56] <gimmulf> could you give me that ubuntuforums url again please about the fluxbox stuff
[12:56] <navarone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87351
[12:57] <Ophiocus> how can i resize a partition before installing ubuntu?
[12:57] <TROGDOR42> Knoppix
[12:57] <rixth> Does totem-xine not exist anymore?!
[12:57] <Sparky_> Ophiocus, use FIPS.
[12:57] <GTroy> guydebord2: it's best to echo it to /etc/network/interfaces
[12:57] <syngin_jkh> wireless support anyone or can someone can tell me if the latest ubuntu supports dell d610 wirless drivers
[12:57] <rixth> Ophiocus, use the partitioner on the Ubuntu CD...
[12:58] <Ophiocus> can i resize without loosing data?
[12:58] <Zedugh> Ophiocus, backup data first, just in case
[12:58] <rixth> Ophiocus, you can. But there are no guarantees it will work.
[12:58] <rixth> I would not risk it.
[12:58] <TROGDOR42> I made that mistake once
[12:59] <TROGDOR42> That's the kind of mistake you only make once.
[12:59] <Zedugh> i've resized fat32 down ( after defrag ) successfully, but wouldn't w/o backup, or on a critical system
[12:59] <Administrador_> thanks gTroy. I think Ill give up for now.  Hasta luego
[12:59] <mwe> real men don't do backups. they cry when they loose everything :)
[01:00] <SPCcrow> Is there an easy way to setup mod_php using Ubuntu repos?
[01:00] <tommy> Is there anyway i can configure gnome-power-manager to read the time remaining on my battery?
[01:00] <tommy> cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state returns: "present rate:      unknown"  which i assume is the problem
[01:00] <kent> Is there an easy way to make a newly added iptables rule   to be activated upon next boot?
[01:01] <Stormx2> Guys, how do you pronounce ubuntu?
[01:01] <TROGDOR42> Oooh-Boon-Too
[01:01] <nalioth> kent: once you save them, the iptables are saved until you change them
[01:01] <TROGDOR42> Emphasis on boon
[01:01] <SPCcrow> oo- boon- too
[01:01] <Stormx2> I've always pronouced it You-Bunt-Ooh
[01:01] <Stormx2> sure showed me.
[01:01] <nasimuto> What happens if i remove all things Gnome under synaptics package manager (i have fluxbox) ?
[01:02] <nasimuto> it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop aswell
[01:02] <rixth> nasimuto, it is just a metapackage
[01:02] <kent> nalioth, what do you meen with once I save them?  Will it be activated on next boot if I run "sudo iptables-save" now?
[01:02] <dooglus> /bnt/
[01:02] <rixth> nasimuto, it won't actaully remove the dekstop
[01:02] <tommy> ubuntu-desktop is fine the remove
[01:02] <nasimuto> cool
[01:02] <nasimuto> thanks
[01:02] <tommy> to remove*
[01:02] <nalioth> kent: once you configure and save your iptables. they'll be as you left them until you change them again. in 5 minutes or 5 years
[01:02] <TROGDOR42> There's a faq thing on the Ubuntu support that says how to pronounce it
[01:03] <tommy> for it being ubuntu bug day, #ubuntu-bugs sure is dead
[01:03] <faust> Found what might be an annoyance to many..
[01:03] <Agamotto> faust:  do tell
[01:03] <dooglus> TROGDOR42: URL?
[01:03] <slew> hi. i just got a used computer and it seems to have two bioses. one that came with the mobo and another that pops up during the boot process. how do i remove this second bios?
[01:03] <faust> It seems dhcpcd isn't in the default 5.10 install, yet the boot process needs it.
[01:04] <faust> After booting, I've had to run dhclient manually after I reinstalled. I installed dhcpcd, and everything suddenly works.
[01:04] <TROGDOR42> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation/view?searchterm=
[01:04] <kent> nalioth, still, I dont understand if you meen it will be activated upon next boot.   Thanks.
[01:05] <moshe> does rhthymbox still choke on large collections?
[01:05] <slew> its that 10,001 boot that ya gotta look out for =]
[01:05] <abeck> I want to leave my ubuntu computer on without a mouse or a monitor, but I can't seem to get the remote vnc to work unless I am logged in.
[01:05] <abeck> What's up with that?
[01:05] <Zedugh> slew, some video cards and some scsi adapters (and other stuff) have their own bios. You probably don't want to remove it (and can't), unless you remove the device.
[01:05] <slew> Zedugh, seems though that an os cant see a harddrive
[01:05] <slew> when ubuntu is installed
[01:05] <Sparky_> btw..anyone know the Atlanta/Detroit score?
[01:06] <TROGDOR42> Sparky, let me introduce you to my friend.  His name is google.  ;)
[01:06] <Zedugh> slew, which os can't see which harddrive?
[01:06] <abeck> Is any one familiar with VNC?
[01:06] <Sparky_> trog, I was testing to see if anyone in the room was listening.I've asked a question about printing several times..
[01:07] <abeck> I guess I will try the wiki
[01:07] <TROGDOR42> Printing?
[01:07] <Sparky_> abeck depends on what you mean about ' know anything about vnc'
[01:07] <slew> Zedugh, this computer is prolly going to be my mothers machine. im trying to install winxp on it for her. it gets thru the preinstall but when its time to select a partion it says no hard drive is installed
[01:07] <slew> even the mobo bios says theres no harddrive
[01:07] <Sparky_> trogdor, specifically HP LJ 1000..
[01:07] <TROGDOR42> I have an HP Deskjet 5150 and it works fine under Linux
[01:07] <slew> so im thinking theres something on the mbr, although grub is loaded but it never asked me where i wanted to load it.
[01:08] <rixth> Does totem-xine not exist anymore?! How can I get totem that does not use gstreamer?
[01:08] <Sparky_> trogdor, I have a LJ 1000, and no matter what I do, I've been uble to get it to work--I even tried loading the firmware to the printer.
[01:08] <Ophiocus> ok so am gonna do this, start installation and then use fips?
[01:08] <dura> Is anyone having trouble using any of the community-based repositories?
[01:09] <Sparky_> dura, some problems, yes..had to try installs 2-3 different times today.
[01:09] <dura> I'm having trouble on both x86 and x86_64.
[01:09] <TROGDOR42> Hmm...
[01:09] <dura> I'm just trying to update...
[01:09] <dura> Do apt and the update manager use different sources.list files?
[01:09] <Red-Sox> who can help me w/ gmail FS?
[01:09] <dooglus> abeck: I'm familiar with VNC
[01:10] <dura> Red-Sox, No one can until you ask a question abou tit...
[01:10] <dura> about it heh
[01:10] <Sparky_> hm..just did an update..no problems..
[01:10] <Zedugh> slew, install winxp before ubuntu, not sure how you use less than the full disk (never installed xp), but i know in the past i could with 98. winxp almost certainly wont like a drive partitioned by other os
[01:10] <TROGDOR42> lol you said tit :O
[01:10] <Sparky_> Redsox: what do you need to know?
[01:10] <Red-Sox> okay, well, how do you, use set, up mount gmail fs
[01:10] <dura> Zedugh, Actually, it doesn't matter much as long as it's a FAT32 or NTFS partition.
[01:10] <dooglus> Red-Sox: what's 'set'?
[01:11] <Red-Sox> dooglus: set it up
[01:11] <Sparky_> zedugh, it will ask you how big of a partition you want to use.
[01:11] <dooglus> Red-Sox: set what up?
[01:11] <Red-Sox> dooglus: gmail fs
[01:11] <Sparky_> Redsox: what mail reader?
[01:11] <dura> so, does the update manager use a different sources.lost then apt does?
[01:11] <TROGDOR42> What is this gmail fs you speak of...?
[01:11] <dura> It allows you to mount a gmail email account.
[01:11] <dooglus> dura: it uses the same one
[01:11] <dura> I thought google stopped that
[01:11] <dooglus> Red-Sox: I tried it.  It's very slow.
[01:12] <dura> dooglus, Alright. Because when I do apt-get update I see alot more sources then I have enabled.
[01:12] <zzer> who may helpme to setup my cloak?
[01:12] <TROGDOR42> Why don't you just use Thunderbird?
[01:12] <griffin_> hello, anyone know if the ATI Rage is older or newer that the Radeon 8500?
[01:12] <dura> Anyone know when the ATi AMD64 drivers will be out for 5.10 ?
[01:12] <dooglus> dura: I don't think you do.  apt-get update updates all the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list and no more
[01:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone please email me the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[01:13] <Red-Sox> dooglus: i dont care how slow it is, i only have 1.6 gb of space left
[01:13] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: you can do that yourself:  "cat /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us | mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:13] <dura> dooglus, Right... so wouldn't those same sources show up in the prefs. for the update manager? I have 4 sources uncommented in sources.list, but when I do apt-get update I see it hit about 15.
[01:13] <dooglus> Red-Sox: burn some CDs or DVDs
[01:13] <Red-Sox> dooglus: good idea
[01:14] <Zedugh> dura, i don't remember which, but in the docs for fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk, there is some info about the format of the partition table (and zeroing some bytes?), that is done differently than dos fdisk, and dos/win will not like the resulting partition table. So a disk can be partitioned to have a fat partition, and still not be usable by dos/win. BTW, slew, the fat (oh ntfs) partition needs to be 1st
[01:14] <dooglus> dura: you'll see 'security', 'updates' and base for each repo
[01:14] <dlfg> griffin: if i recall correctly the rage 128 came out before 8500
[01:14] <Red-Sox> dooglus: well.... i dont know of what to burn
[01:14] <Red-Sox> dooglus: its filled up with programs
[01:14] <dooglus> Red-Sox: burn the porn
[01:14] <dura> Zedugh, Interesting...
[01:14] <Red-Sox> dooglus: im 12
[01:14] <rubem> Hi there...
[01:14] <dooglus> Red-Sox: in that case delete it before your Mum finds it
[01:14] <dura> dooglus, Yeah I do. But all the community maintained sources are broken.
[01:14] <dura> ;|
[01:14] <Red-Sox> dooglus: i dont have any
[01:15] <Sparky_> trogdor, because  I need the calendar function in kmail. Thunderbird I use to read my broadband ISP mail.
[01:15] <dura> I can't even install mp3info so I can use mp32ogg
[01:15] <rubem> I've downloaded the jdk via apt-get, how do I configure the JAVA_HOME?
[01:15] <abeck> abeck slaps his beek and shleeeps out of the room.
[01:15] <TROGDOR42> Ah
[01:15] <dooglus> Red-Sox: it's not a good idea to move programs to a gmail file system
[01:15] <dooglus> Red-Sox: you should leave files which apt-get installed where they are.
[01:15] <Agamotto> ouch
[01:16] <Agamotto> Why would someone use Gmail to hold files????
[01:16] <dura> Also, the wiki page for the AMD64 driver howto says at the top that they are available for 5.10, and then about 4 lines dows it says they aren't lol.
[01:16] <dooglus> dura: paste your sources.list and the output of apt-get update to the pastebin.
[01:16] <Red-Sox> dooglus: okay
[01:16] <rubem> ??????
[01:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> guys, play this url in your gmplayer or gxine http://libsyn.com/media/frederator/Channel_Frederator_5.m4v
[01:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's awesome!
[01:16] <slew> Zedugh, thanks. im not planning on keeping ubuntu on this drive, i just wanted to be sure the drive would work. =]
[01:16] <dura> dooglus, How do I do that? /tell pastebin foo ?
[01:16] <rixth> Once again, does totem-xine not exist anymore?! How can I get totem that does not use gstreamer?
[01:16] <Zedugh> slew, dura: I don't know for a fact how the ubuntu-installer-partitioner handles it, it might work, but it might not
[01:17] <Agamotto> ritxth:  There is a package for it in synaptic
[01:17] <dura> Zedugh, I usually boot a Mandrake CD to partition/resize NTFS.
[01:17] <slew> Zedugh, well i know ubuntu installs fine.
[01:17] <Agamotto> Mandrake discs are usually very good for that, yes
[01:17] <dura> It's just handy...
[01:17] <rcmiv> how do I disable "synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org.." boot option?
[01:17] <slew> its just the inferiour product that is microsoft cannot
[01:17] <dura> Especialy when all you have is a stupid restore CD for windows.
[01:17] <slew> see the drive =]
[01:18] <Agamotto> rcmiv:  Turn off the time service
[01:18] <dura> But now I don't bother with windows so :)
[01:18] <dura> dooglus, How do I send stuff to the pastebin?
[01:18] <dooglus> dura
[01:18] <dooglus> !paste
[01:18] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:18] <dura> Ahh ok
[01:18] <dura> Let me do that brb
[01:18] <rcmiv> Agamotto: thank you
[01:18] <Sparky_> bbiab
[01:18] <Sparky_> exit
[01:19] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: it's very reminscent of the triplets of belleville
[01:19] <ricky_ds> Hi, how can I install gnucash on ubuntu?
[01:19] <Zedugh> slew, dura: ya, i've used knoppix and some other liveCDs to resize, and slew, i guess it doesn't matter if you're not keeping ubuntu on the system, but if you install ubuntu (or any linux) first, then the win install will clobber the mbr, and you'll have to reinstall grub/lilo.
[01:19] <dooglus> ricky_ds: "sudo apt-get install gnucash"
[01:19] <dura> dooglus, I'll paste just the erros from apt-get update.
[01:19] <slew> Zedugh, yes, i know this. =]
[01:19] <ricky_ds> dooglus, why doesn't it appear in the software to install?  Done
[01:20] <dura> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:20] <ubotu> dura: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[01:20] <dura> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:20] <dura> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:20] <dura> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:20] <Red-Sox> is there a psp video converter for linux?
[01:20] <rixth> Red-Sox, mencoder would be your best bet
[01:20] <apokryphos> dura: don't paste in here please
[01:20] <dura> I didn't try to...
[01:20] <Red-Sox> rixth: thank you
[01:20] <dura> sorry about that
[01:21] <dura> I was trying to use pastebin
[01:21] <Zedugh> dura, this happened to me earlier today, waited awhile (10-15 min) tried again, no problems
[01:21] <dura> dooglus, PM me and I'll paste it there.
[01:21] <rixth> apokryphos, he doesn't know what a pastebin is
[01:21] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[01:21] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:21] <dooglus> dura: type !paste and follow what ubotu tells you
[01:21] <dura> Zedugh, This has been happening since yesterday morning.
[01:21] <dura> !paste
[01:21] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:21] <dura> heh
[01:21] <rixth> apokryphos, are you a MOTU?
[01:21] <dura> If it worked I could
[01:22] <dura> ! paste
[01:22] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:22] <apokryphos> rixth: nope
[01:22] <dooglus> dura: it works
[01:22] <nalioth> dura: please stop that
[01:22] <rixth> apokryphos, okay- thanks. I've been googling & I can't find any trace of where totem-xine has been removed.
[01:22] <dura> I'll spam it in #flood
[01:22] <apokryphos> rixth: sorry?
[01:22] <ricardo> hi am new in ubuntu
[01:22] <Red-Sox> ricardo: welcome
[01:22] <ompaul> dura, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:22] <ricardo> how i configure my monito??
[01:22] <rixth> apokryphos, just interesting- sure I can find it somewhere.
[01:23] <Red-Sox> ricardo: are you in gnome?
[01:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ricardo about fixres
[01:23] <apokryphos> rixth: you're looking for totem-xine?
[01:23] <ricardo> yes
[01:23] <rixth> ricardo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:23] <apokryphos> ricardo: what's wrong with the one in the repos?
[01:23] <rixth> apokryphos, yeah. It is no longer in apt.
[01:23] <ricardo> whe i do taht i have problems to enter to the grphic form
[01:23] <apokryphos> !info totem-xine
[01:23] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 776 kB, Installed size: 4492 kB
[01:23] <apokryphos> rixth: sure it is
[01:24] <ricardo> i trie whit xorg but is the same
[01:24] <rubem> I've downloaded the jdk via apt-get, how do I configure the JAVA_HOME?????
[01:24] <rixth> At thats it. I just reinstalled & forgot to update my sources.list
[01:25] <dura> dooglus, Do I enter my name in (at pastebin) or yours?
[01:25] <dura> Not much for instructions there heh
[01:25] <dura> At paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:26] <sklav> hey anybody else experience issue with the latest kernel not being installed?
[01:26] <dura> And I've never seen/heard of pastebin before either.
[01:26] <Zedugh> dura, what IRC client r u using?
[01:27] <dura> Xchat
[01:27] <sklav> gamata
[01:27] <sklav> oops wrong window
[01:27] <ricardo> how i configure my monito??
[01:27] <Zedugh> brb in xchat
[01:27] <ricardo> i have a lot of problemes
[01:28] <dura> ricardo, Try X -configure to autoconfig xorg.
[01:28] <ricardo> i try but
[01:28] <ricardo> when i try to enter to the graphic mode i have an error
[01:28] <dura> ricardo, If it doesn't work, use a text editor to edit xorg.conf either in roots /home or in /etc/X11/
[01:28] <sklav> what type of vidcard?
[01:28] <ricardo> i only can enter whit 640 x 480
[01:28] <dura> ricardo, Google for the specs on your monitor.
[01:29] <ricardo> is a IBM E74
[01:29] <dura> ricardo, Email me your corg.conf file and I'll change it for you.
[01:29] <ricardo> GARPCHI CARD INTEL
[01:29] <sklav> its his videocard the issue
[01:29] <dura> xorg.conf*
[01:29] <ioboss> waht means ioboss@ioboss-machine:/usr/src$ sudo make xconfig
[01:29] <ioboss> make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'.  Stop.
[01:29] <sklav> intergrated?
[01:29] <dura> Zedugh, back?
[01:29] <ioboss> ioboss@ioboss-machine:/usr/src$ sudo make menuconfig
[01:29] <ioboss> make: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'.  Stop.
[01:29] <ioboss> :|
[01:29] <Zedugh> yub
[01:29] <Zedugh> oops, yup
[01:29] <Ophiocus> during installation,. if i tell the formater to resize
[01:29] <ricardo> DURA , WHAT IS YOR EMAIL???
[01:29] <dura> Zedugh, I pointed firefox to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:30] <dura> ricardo, duralinux at gmail dot com
[01:30] <sklav> dura, is your vidcard intergrated?
[01:30] <dura> sklav, No... it's a Radeon 9600 Pro
[01:30] <dura> Mobile
[01:30] <sklav> ah ok
[01:30] <dura> I had the ATi drivers working great in Gentoo
[01:30] <Ophiocus> during installation,. if i tell the formater to resize will i loose any data on the resized partition?
[01:30] <dura> AMD64 Gentoo that is.
[01:30] <dura> Ophiocus, Possibly...
[01:30] <sklav> did you install unsopported linux modules?
[01:31] <Zedugh> dura, i've only viewed pastes, not yet pasted, following along to learn
[01:31] <sklav> i had similar issue with my nvidia
[01:31] <ricardo> DURA ACEPT
[01:31] <dura> Zedugh, Hehe alright. Do I enter my name in that box at the top?
[01:31] <dura> ricardo, Can't... not registerd.
[01:31] <rubem> I've downloaded the jdk via apt-get, how do I configure the JAVA_HOME??????
[01:31] <sklav> ok i be back i have to go shovel snow
[01:31] <Zedugh> dura, i dont know
[01:31] <Zedugh> !pastebin
[01:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:31] <nalioth> ricardo: you cannot send priv msgs on this network unless you register your nick
[01:31] <sklav> set JAVA_HOME="/your/path/to/java"
[01:31] <dura> Zedugh, Got an email address I can send the output to?
[01:32] <sklav> if that works
[01:32] <ricardo> OHHHH
[01:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dura about register
[01:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ricardo about register
[01:32] <sklav> add it to your .bashrc
[01:32] <ricardo> what was yor email?
[01:32] <rubem> sklav: if I do this, it will not be persistent
[01:32] <dura> I don't want to register.
[01:32] <sklav> i know
[01:32] <rubem> sklav: and where the apt-get installs the JDK?
[01:32] <dura> ricardo, duralinux at gmail dot come
[01:32] <sklav> usually /usr/java if not mistaken
[01:33] <sklav> but you could do a search
[01:33] <dura> Zedugh, Guess not lol
[01:33] <Zedugh> dura, what is your question?
[01:33] <rubem> sklav: no...
[01:33] <rubem> sklav: not in /usr/java
[01:34] <dura> Zedugh, I'm having trouble with the community maintained sources. It's posted on paste.ubuntulinux.nl search for dura. I pasted it under that ID.
[01:34] <sklav> do a whereis java on a command line
[01:34] <rubem> sklav: found it! /ust/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/
[01:34] <sklav> or locate java
[01:34] <dura> I pasted the output of apt-get update and also sources.list.
[01:34] <sklav> oops
[01:34] <sklav> forgot the lib
[01:34] <rubem> forget?
[01:34] <sklav> i type /usr/java
[01:34] <ricardo> ok i seend the mail
[01:35] <sklav> i meant /usr/lib/java
[01:35] <rubem> sklav: are you sure???
[01:35] <sklav> yeah
[01:35] <sklav> im looking at it now
[01:35] <Zedugh> dura, what were you doing to get this?
[01:35] <rubem> sklav: it is the same structure of the normal jdk instalation
[01:35] <dura> Zedugh, I added some sources that were listed in the preferences of the update manager, and I typed sudo apt-get update is all.
[01:35] <sklav> yeah like on redhat and other linux's
[01:36] <dura> They were working until Tuesday.
[01:36] <Zedugh> dura, ok hold on
[01:36] <dura> Zedugh, Alright
[01:36] <rubem> sklav: where do i configure the envorioment variables?
[01:36] <dura> ricardo, Are you sending me that file?
[01:36] <dooglus> dura: leave the name blank if you like
[01:36] <ricardo> yes
[01:36] <sklav> add it to your .bashrc
[01:36] <Ophiocus> posibly aint good enough, i need certainty
[01:36] <dura> dooglus, I already pasted it. I put dura in the name box.
[01:36] <rubem> sklav: at home?
[01:37] <sklav> yes
[01:37] <Hobbsee> dura: find the link, and paste it in here...
[01:37] <sklav> or in the one in /etc for global
[01:37] <dura> Ophiocus, Then go to http://www.google.com/linux and look for yourself.
[01:37] <dura> Hobbsee, Alright
[01:37] <dura> brb
[01:37] <dooglus> dura: I missed that.   I tried this one http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548  but it doesn't work like pictured
[01:41] <dura> hang on
[01:41] <jack-> nalioth: smoking crack is disgusting, criminalized everywhere, and definitely not nice
[01:41] <Zedugh> dooglus, he did: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5015
[01:41] <cupp221> how do you set your root password (or change to root) in ubuntu?  i cant access my root account
[01:41] <nalioth> dima202: that is fake. it doesnt work.
[01:41] <Em`Zee> Does anyone know how I can make the command "tail -f" beep every time a new line is written to the target file?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> !tell cupp221 about root
[01:41] <nasimuto> cupp221: sudo passwd
[01:41] <jack-> get your bot to excuse and i'll be glad to do the same :p
[01:41] <dima202> nalioth, As I suspected ! :( Why is it still up there??? :(((
[01:41] <nalioth> jack-: yes, but some of dont appreciate the vulgarities
[01:41] <jack-> ;)
[01:41] <nalioth> dima202: that'd be up to the gnome-look.org folks
[01:41] <dima202> nalioth, The icons works though
[01:42] <Zedugh> dura, the first 2 lines of your paste say 'Failed to fetch ....', but those files are there and I can get them
[01:42] <Sparky_> re all..
[01:42] <jack-> anyway nalioth, do you have any clue about ubuntu on virtualpc?
[01:42] <jack-> so weird..
[01:42] <nalioth> jack-: the bot does not curse or use vulgarities
[01:42] <dooglus> dura: last I heard, the us. mirror was fsck'ed.  remove the 'us.' from sources.list
[01:42] <nalioth> jack-: it should run just fine on VPC
[01:42] <dura> dooglus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5016
[01:42] <jack-> fails at partitioning/mounting / as /target..
[01:42] <jack-> really wack
[01:43] <dooglus> dura: "sudo sed -i sed 's/us[.] //g'
[01:43] <Em`Zee> Does anyone know how I can make the command "tail -f" beep every time a new line is written to the target file?
[01:43] <cupp221> how can you set permissions if root is disabled in ubuntu?
[01:43] <jack-> no idea how i could fix that :~
[01:43] <Zedugh> dura, like dooglus said, the us mirror gave me errors earlier today, but its working for me now
[01:43] <Sparky_> cupp sudo
[01:43] <dima202> How can I delete themes I created in "themes"????
[01:43] <dura> Zedugh, Well they aren't for me... and haven't been since Tuesday.
[01:43] <Lirx> #ubuntu
[01:43] <strokey> the force was with me
[01:43] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: question is Breezy still requiring extra files to be installed for rhythmbox to play internet mp3 streams? If so what is the link?
[01:44] <Zedugh> dura, well do as dooglus suggests...
[01:44] <strokey> But now i have another problem, anyone here experianced with linux can pm me? :D
[01:44] <dooglus> Em`Zee: tail -f <whatever> | sed 's/^/^G/'  (where ^G is a control G character)
[01:45] <dooglus> strokey: you're asking in a linux channel if anyone's experienced with linux?
[01:45] <nasimuto> lol
[01:45] <strokey> there could be poeple like me, who arnt experianced
[01:45] <strokey> :D
[01:45] <Lirx> I need some help. I recently installed kubuntu on a pentium one laptop. It loads just fine, but when it gets to the desktop, the font and stuff kinda suck. I need to switch it to 1024x768, but the only choice on config is 800x600. Also, when i try to login to konsole, i can type in my username, but when it asks for the pw, i cant tye anything in..the keyboard doesnt work
[01:45] <Sanne> strokey, if you keep your problem in the channel, others could also benefit from a solution.
[01:45] <dooglus> strokey: there are hundreds of people here.  probably a few of them are 'experienced'.  what's up?
[01:45] <strokey> i just installed ubuntu
[01:46] <strokey> im not on ubuntu now as i have exactly the same problem as i useally have, but this time ive decided to fix it!
[01:46] <dooglus> strokey: that's not necessarily a problem...
[01:46] <nasimuto> Lirx: if shadow passwords are enabled then you cant see anything you type in the password field
[01:46] <Lirx> oh
[01:46] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:46] <Lirx> and how can i fix the graphics problem
[01:46] <Lirx> :/
[01:46] <fevoldj2> What is the command to load the php5 module for apache in Ubuntu?
[01:46] <thompa> my game sound shuts down and i have to rstart alsa
[01:46] <nasimuto> i have no idea
[01:46] <strokey> dooglus: can we pm? ;o
[01:46] <nasimuto> is there anything like msconfig for ubuntu ?
[01:46] <dooglus> nasimuto: I don't think shadow passwords means what you think it means
[01:47] <dooglus> strokey: a/s/l?
[01:47] <cupp221> im trying to set permissions for this file, but it says im not the owner... it belongs to root... so how can i set it so my user can access it?
[01:47] <Sanne> lol
[01:47] <strokey> depends what you are
[01:47] <strokey> !
[01:47] <nasimuto> i'd really like to scim my startup list
[01:47] <ubotu> strokey: No idea
[01:47] <nasimuto> my laptop boots 5 minutes !
[01:47] <strokey> o_O
[01:47] <ricardo> i posten my xorg in http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5017
[01:47] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: Thanks..couldn't remember to save my woo hoo ya know? heh
[01:47] <Hobbsee> cupp221: chown
[01:47] <Sparky_> cupp sudo -s
[01:47] <Hobbsee> that too
[01:47] <Lirx> could someone help me with a screen config issue>
[01:47] <Lirx> ?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> !xfcg
[01:47] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Hobbsee
[01:47] <thompa> nasimuto: whats the laptop?
[01:48] <dooglus> cupp221: "sudo chmod" will let you set permissions.  "sudo chown" will let you change the ownership
[01:48] <Hobbsee> !tell Lirx about xcfg
[01:48] <Lirx> I wanna change it to 1024 x 768, but all that comes up on config is 800x600
[01:48] <Lirx> x--config?
[01:48] <Lirx> ;x
[01:48] <ricardo> taht is also my problem
[01:48] <Lirx> lol
[01:48] <thompa> nasimuto: maybe its slowing on finding a network
[01:48] <ricardo> try whit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:48] <nasimuto> thompa: no, its everything
[01:49] <nasimuto> it loads like 30-40 processes
[01:49] <xfree> if i want to install opera 8.5 above opera 8.0 what i have , how can i do that with dpkg ?
[01:49] <nasimuto> i was lazy, so i installed default ubuntu
[01:49] <cupp221> thx ill try that
[01:49] <arnducky> dooglus, and su will allow you to not have to type sudo again and again and again and...
[01:49] <Lirx> can someone tell me how to use 1024x768 display if all that shows up is 800x600 on options
[01:49] <dima202> I don't understand. I can't install mplayer on ununtu
[01:49] <Sanne> Lirx, might this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:49] <felix_> what UID should bve the main user ?
[01:49] <nasimuto> thompa: nasimuto: whats the laptop? <- HP Omnibook XE2, 600 Mhz, 64mb ram, 4mb vid
[01:49] <dima202>  first it doesn't like my gcc version so I put that ignore
[01:50] <dooglus> arnducky: 'su' only works if you have set a root password.  most people haven't
[01:50] <dima202> ANd then it failed to ./configure
[01:50] <gerard_21> hi
[01:50] <ricardo> dura my xorg is on http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5017
[01:50] <Zedugh> felix_: it will normally be 1000
[01:50] <dima202> Why doesn't mplayer like ubuntu????
[01:50] <felix_> ok
[01:50] <arnducky> dooglus, first thing I did post-install, but tell me why Ubuntu doesbn't at least give you the option?
[01:50] <thompa> nasimuto:  you might want to try a smaller distro for that
[01:50] <Lirx> to run commands on that page, saane, should i use konsole?
[01:51] <gerard_21> huh?
[01:51] <dura> I still get the MD5Sum mismatch error with the US sources.
[01:51] <thompa> nasimuto:  ram should be at least 128
[01:51] <dooglus> arnducky: it does.  "sudo passwd" lets you set the root password.
[01:51] <felix_> but then , why all my home dir is 755 and owned by root ? i cant do anything
[01:51] <Sanne> Lirx,  yes
[01:51] <dima202> Nope, ubuntu doesn't even have mplayer in package selection
[01:51] <Lirx> k
[01:51] <dima202> Even the non gui
[01:51] <dooglus> arnducky: there's no need to set it - sudo is enough.
[01:51] <nasimuto> thompa: no, i just need to delete the services, i dont need, from startup
[01:51] <Xen> in what ways is ubuntu superior to debian?  I'm currently using it but looking for something more whole out of the box.
[01:51] <gar-> Zedugh, at last i could get  the wireless up
[01:51] <arnducky> pheh  __ I hope you're not another Ubuntu developer...
[01:51] <dura> So, if I disable all those US sources, how the hell am I going to have any package choices to install from?
[01:52] <dura> Is there a list of apt sources somewhere?
[01:52] <nasimuto> Xen: ubuntu is more user friendly and has a better dev architecture and legal system or whatknot
[01:52] <arnducky> Not having a root password is just braindead
[01:52] <Lirx> Sanne, what do i type to get to the konsole
[01:52] <Lirx> thers like the shell
[01:52] <Lirx> and another one..
[01:52] <Zedugh> gar-, hoorah!!!
[01:52] <gar-> now time to upgrade
[01:52] <gar-> Zedugh,  im on X-chat
[01:52] <felix_> why all my home dir is 755 and owned by root ? i cant do anything
[01:52] <Sanne> Lirx, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[01:52] <Parkway> Anyone have a clue what this means?  Been trying to install a MUD client.  configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[01:52] <gar-> Zedugh,  you would know how easy wast to setting up the wireless
[01:53] <Zedugh> gar-:, yes
[01:53] <Kiseonik> Any way to install kubuntu/ubuntu on a loop-mounted filesystem?
[01:53] <thompa> nasimuto: your ram should be 128 min
[01:53] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: The only one it can't find is this one...I have multiverse enabled in synaptic ---> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[01:53] <gar-> Zedugh,  just a simple program
[01:53] <nasimuto> thompa: fluxbox currently runs without problems
[01:53] <dura> No one knows?
[01:53] <thompa> nasimuto: so its just gnome?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> !tell dura about repos
[01:54] <gar-> Zedugh,  now how do i upgrade to breezy
[01:54] <Hobbsee> !upgrade2breezy
[01:54] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[01:54] <nasimuto> thompa: yes, in gnome everything took 5 minutes to load and it was monsterlaggy
[01:54] <Xen> nasimuto, it still has all the nifty stuff that makes debian itself great doesn't it?
[01:54] <nasimuto> Xen: indeed
[01:54] <felix_> WH
[01:54] <dooglus> Parkway: you meed to install build-essential?
[01:54] <nasimuto> i was a debian user once
[01:54] <gar-> Hobbsee, thanks
[01:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> dooglus you didn't think those cartoons were good?
[01:54] <Lirx> how do i exit ubuntu kernal
[01:55] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: I can'tremember
[01:55] <felix_> Awhat IS This ??      my 'home dir' is 'impossible to read'  and is -quite weirdly- having now a 311 perm
[01:55] <kiko> hey guys
[01:55] <thompa> nasimuto: i know it says 32m min, but i dont think you can run gnome on that fast enough
[01:55] <kiko> one question
[01:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone please email me the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[01:55] <kiko> where do "ip route" commands go in ubuntu?
[01:55] <Zedugh> Zugwrack: i have gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse in synaptic (and installed)
[01:55] <Parkway> dooglus: erm where's that?
[01:55] <nasimuto> thompa: thats ok, i like fluxmore much more than gnome anyways
[01:55] <dooglus> Parkway: use synaptic
[01:55] <Sparky_> tried the Gnome version of Ubuntu..found it too slow.. switched to Kubuntu for the superiour calendar in KContact and found that KDE was faster..
[01:55] <nasimuto> fluxbox even
[01:56] <Parkway> ok
[01:56] <Zedugh> gar-: what simple program?
[01:56] <dooglus> Parkway: system->synaptic
[01:56] <Parkway> thanks
[01:56] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: hmmm..when I did a search it acted like it couldn't find it....
[01:56] <Zedugh> Zugwrack, r u using the us repos? ie: us.archive...
[01:56] <thompa> nasimuto: recommended min for gnome  128 megabytes
[01:56] <thompa>
[01:56] <thompa> 2 gigabytes
[01:56] <thompa> sorry
[01:57] <nasimuto> thompa: i have no need for resource hogging window systems
[01:57] <jack-> use fluxbox then
[01:57] <darksoul> what do they call it...cedga..
[01:57] <jack-> or xfce
[01:57] <Nino> hi all
[01:57] <Xen> nasimuto, what made you decide to switch?
[01:58] <darksoul> whats the website for cedga
[01:58] <Hobbsee> BROKEN_LADDER: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5020
[01:58] <Hobbsee> !cedega
[01:58] <ubotu> it has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, or #cedega http://www.franskcorner.org/
[01:58] <jack-> !cedega
[01:58] <Zedugh> fluxbox or other boxen, or if you like start buttons icewm
[01:58] <darksoul> Xen: i switched since windows was being shit..
[01:58] <nasimuto> Xen: actually, i switched from Win 98SE to ubuntu on my laptop
[01:58] <Nino> would it be posssible to get some help with GCC??
[01:58] <Zugwrack> Zugwrack: I would presume
[01:58] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: I would presume
[01:58] <dima202> IS THERE a good MACOSX theme for Gnome?
[01:58] <Zugwrack> Let me look
[01:59] <Hobbsee> Nino: try in #GCC
[01:59] <Nino> when i try to make a file i get gcc 3.4: command not found
[01:59] <Xen> I just wish gaming was easier on linux.
[01:59] <jack-> dima202: if you want aqua looks, just install osx-x86 in a vm
[01:59] <nasimuto> Xen: a long time ago i was running on debian. But since i develop all my software for windows - i switched to XP Pro corp. Currently i have XP pro corp on my desktop and ubuntu+fluxbox on my laptop
[01:59] <jack-> heh
[01:59] <Zugwrack> Zedugh: yes that is the case
[01:59] <Xen> nasimuto, I know the feeling
[01:59] <dima202> jack-, can you please explaing? Where do I get osx-x86 and what is vm?
[01:59] <Zedugh> some people seem to have had problems with them today. your repos are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list (just FYI). you might try "sudo apt-get update" to re-sync your package info
[01:59] <Xen> .NET is difficult to use in any linux os
[01:59] <nasimuto> indeed
[02:00] <nasimuto> its crap
[02:00] <nasimuto> so i use wxwindows
[02:00] <felix_> i CAnnot acess my Home dir...please help ??
[02:00] <Nino> thanks Hoobsee ill try there :)
[02:00] <nasimuto> xen: im currently aiming toward multiplatform programming, so I'll probably switch fulltime to linux in 2008 or so
[02:00] <dooglus> felix_: what happens?
[02:00] <Zedugh> felix_, what do you mean your home directory is 755, do you mean the permissions, or the uid?
[02:00] <dooglus> felix_: "sudo chown $USER:$USER ~" will fix it
[02:01] <felix_> dooglus, i dont know ; its a fresh breezy install , my home dir is 311 , and has a 'red X' on it
[02:01] <jack-> dima202: from apple, for $$
[02:01] <jack-> a vm is a virtual machine
[02:01] <jack-> !vmware
[02:01] <ubotu> jack-: Are you on ritalin?
[02:01] <jack-> ubotu: Yes, what else
[02:01] <ubotu> I don't know, jack-
[02:01] <Xen> nasimuto, wxwindows?
[02:01] <jack-> ubotu: I know you don't know
[02:01] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, jack-
[02:01] <Zedugh> felix_, do what dooglus said, and see...
[02:01] <dima202> jack-, no no no, I am looking for a theme.. .for gnome
[02:01] <nasimuto> Xen: its a GUI programming library for C++
[02:01] <Nino> i think theyre all asleep on GCC lol, im trying to install my wireless card if anyones willing to give a hand :)
[02:01] <nasimuto> Xen: www.wxwindows.org
[02:02] <dura> Where is a good place to find more sources to add to sources.list?
[02:02] <dura> For amd64...
[02:02] <nasimuto> btw, a friend of mine wants to know: How easy is it to install 32bit apps to 64bit ubuntu ?
[02:03] <felix_> Dooglus, it didnt change anything
[02:03] <dooglus> felix_: ls -ld ~
[02:03] <jack-> nasimuto: installing isnt the problem at all
[02:03] <nasimuto> nice
[02:04] <jack-> but your 64bit box will get frustrated and throw 32 bits in the bin
[02:04] <jack-> you dont want that right?
[02:04] <nasimuto> lol
[02:04] <jack-> ;)
[02:04] <felix_>  dooglus : drwxrwxrwx  15 felix felix 4096 2005-11-24 19:59 /home/felix
[02:04] <ricardo> dura are you there???
[02:04] <snowowl> Is limewire crashing for anyone with a fully updated 5.10
[02:04] <ricardo> you see my file?
[02:04] <dura> ricardo, Yeah. Looking at that now
[02:05] <ricardo> ok thaks
[02:05] <dooglus> felix_: that's owned by you.  what's the problem?
[02:05] <nasimuto> recommend some good file managers. im currently exploring rox
[02:05] <coz> I have video problem and would appreciate help with this
[02:05] <nasimuto> it must be a low-resource manager and windowslike
[02:05] <snowowl> coz - what the deal wit your prob
[02:05] <coz> I have an gforce fx 5200 pci not agp video card
[02:05] <gnomefreak> server was up for a little while today :(
[02:05] <Nino> is there anyother way to install my wireless card without using this GCC stuff [linux virgin]
[02:05] <redguy> nasimuto: try gentoo
[02:06] <felix_> a close look at the home dir...it says that its owned by root, and 311  (a 'propriety' right click on the folder)
[02:06] <coz> But I can't figure out how to edit the xorg file
[02:06] <nasimuto> redguy: gentoo is a linux distro
[02:06] <Zedugh> gar-, what program?
[02:06] <coz> here is the file http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/pY03sC20.html
[02:06] <redguy> nasimuto: gentoo is a file manager as well
[02:06] <nasimuto> wow
[02:06] <nasimuto> thx
[02:06] <snowowl> try this "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:07] <gar-> yeah upgrading now
[02:07] <snowowl> be careful coz
[02:07] <coz> I know how to get to the file I don't know what to put in the file
[02:07] <Zedugh> gentoo the distro and gentoo the file manager are not related
[02:07] <dooglus> felix_: "ls -ld ~" *is* a close look at your home directory - and it shows it's owned by you with 777 permissions.
[02:07] <nasimuto> gentoo is like worker, i'd like a more rox/explorer like interface
[02:07] <coz> thanks for th note of cuation but I have already broken this 5 times and recovered
[02:07] <coz> I need a real solution to this
[02:07] <felix_> dooglus http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5021
[02:07] <Xen> ubuntu uses x.org instead of xfree86?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> isnt rox a desktop envorernment?
[02:08] <Amaranth> yes
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Xen,  yes
[02:08] <snowowl> I really don't know the problem - but If you describe it i can tell you exactly what to put
[02:08] <redguy> Xen: nearly no distro uses xfree86 anymore
[02:08] <coz> I have tried the forumn pages and they all say about the same thing without any reference to the xorg editing
[02:08] <Xen> wow
[02:08] <coz> or very little about it
[02:08] <dooglus> felix_: that's not your home directory, that's /home
[02:08] <gnomefreak> coz,  its a grafical configure
[02:08] <Xen> I've typed nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 a million times on Debian 3.1 :S
[02:08] <felix_> dooglus, sorry, a missunderstandi9ng then..
[02:08] <redguy> hehe
[02:08] <Knowerrors> Im building a custom kernel using a different config from og Ubuntu, can anyone tell me what parts are needed in kernel config to support iptables?
[02:08] <coz> gnomefreak what does that mean exactly?
[02:08] <dooglus> felix_: fix that with: "sudo chmod 755 /home; sudo chown root:root /home"
[02:09] <felix_> thats directory, and it /home ..so..
[02:09] <redguy> you miss it? :-)
[02:09] <Xen> is x.org faster/more stable/more efficient or something?
[02:09] <mitja> Please help anyone. I rebooted from konsole and now I have only console, no KDE!
[02:09] <dooglus> felix_: but how did you fuck things up this badly in the first place?
[02:09] <Amaranth> Xen: It's like XFree86 but better in every way.
[02:09] <snowowl> be specific coz what is the problem
[02:09] <folki> hi all
[02:09] <pppoe_dude> is it safe to use my gpg keys on Psi?
[02:09] <felix_> dooglus, its a fresh install... didint do nothing special
[02:09] <felix_> its really weird
[02:09] <Sanne> nasimuto: you might like Xfe: http://freshmeat.net/projects/xfe/
[02:09] <Xen> cool
[02:09] <Amaranth> Xen: Seeing how it's a fork of XFree86 that actually has people working on it it'd have to be. :)
[02:09] <dooglus> felix_: really?  that is odd
[02:09] <redguy> Xen: AFAIK xfree86 pepole changed their licence
[02:09] <coz> Ok when the nvidia drivers are installed I cannot get into the system.
[02:09] <coz> I have to uninstall the drivers
[02:09] <gnomefreak> coz,  its not text it is grafical (colors) kinda spelled out for you but it would be a good idea to know your moniter,mouse,things like that including video card
[02:10] <Mitja> snowowl: are you talking to me?
[02:10] <nasimuto> Sanne: thank you, thats just what i needed :)
[02:10] <dooglus> felix_: perhaps it's a special feature that only exists in the french version.  retaliation for garlic, perhaps
[02:10] <felix_> dooglus is there a way to chmod it -r ?
[02:10] <coz> but the problem is inthe xorg files refering to the chipset intel driver  shown here     http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/pY03sC20.html
[02:10] <felix_> haha
[02:10] <dooglus> felix_: -r?  whatchu mean?
[02:10] <Sanne> nasimuto: you're welcome :)
[02:10] <felix_> in fact, i'm from canada.
[02:10] <snowowl> ok, you should have said that - have you commented out the "load glcore" and "load dri" lines
[02:10] <felix_> recursive
[02:10] <Mitja> How do I init KDE from console? I'm locked out!
[02:10] <felix_> the desktop folders are still lock
[02:10] <Zedugh> felix_, /home is not your home, its the home of all users. Your home is /home/felix
[02:11] <dooglus> felix_: maybe that's what you did...  -r means "remove read".  "-R" means recursive.
[02:11] <Mitja> startx and startkde won't work
[02:11] <felix_> arrr
[02:11] <dura> ricardo, Sent
[02:11] <redguy> Mitja: not sure if I understood you correctly, but you might try sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart
[02:11] <dura> Try that and see if it works. If not, I'll try something else.
[02:11] <snowowl> in fact all you really have to do is this at the command line - one sec
[02:12] <Mitja> redguy: thanks, will do
[02:12] <felix_> DESKTOP is in the /home/username, and i did the chmod for /home..but the Desktopfiles  are still locked..
[02:12] <snowowl> "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[02:12] <coz> If someone would look at this file and tell me what it is I have to change to get the video card working    http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/pY03sC20.html
[02:12] <gar-> how i can get the mp3 plugin ????
[02:12] <dooglus> felix_: DESKTOP is /home/felix/Desktop
[02:12] <Quenyar> any way I can trick ubuntu into giving me a higher screen resolution with an old Matrox Millenium video card?
[02:12] <felix_> thats what i said
[02:13] <redguy> coz: how about setting "UseFBDev" to false ?
[02:13] <[Kismet] > Hi! How can I get shown the fps when I tun glxgear?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> what is hotline?   kinda scared to ask
[02:13] <RedRose> how do i launch a program in bash so that it will run til it's finished or killed?
[02:13] <coz> I haven't tried that but it still refers to the onboard video and not the card
[02:13] <dura> coz, Try disabling the onboard video in the BIOS first.
[02:14] <Zedugh> Kismet, something like glxgears --print-fps
[02:14] <snowowl> coz - try changing line 2 to this "Drivier nvidia"
[02:14] <coz> I did that
[02:14] <felix_> thanks dooglus
[02:14] <coz> that doesn't help
[02:14] <felix_> a -R worked well..
[02:14] <medgno> [Kismet] , glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[02:14] <felix_> much better than -r ..
[02:14] <felix_> ;P
[02:14] <faust> Heh.. this is screwed. That sound that's played when you launch a game from the applications menu in gnome blocks the sound for the game in some cases.
[02:14] <snowowl> erase line 6
[02:14] <snowowl> no - comment it out
[02:14] <faust> So far I've found it to disable sound in Supertux and Planet Penguin Racer.
[02:14] <coz> I think the identifiier has to change as well, no?
[02:15] <snowowl> not really thats just text
[02:15] <snowowl> ID string
[02:15] <Zedugh> RedRose, append " &" to the command
[02:15] <redguy> coz, snowowl but BusID should change...
[02:16] <snowowl> change line 5 to "BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
[02:16] <redguy> coz: what happens whem you turn off onboard video i BIOS?
[02:16] <root__> redguy: thanks, but that didn't help :(
[02:16] <root__> I still can't get into desktop
[02:16] <darksoul> !ati
[02:16] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:16] <_native_> redguy; you die!!
[02:16] <coz> well actually there is a pci or agp switch I use the pci switch for the card and of course cannot get into the system on reboot
[02:16] <Zugwrack> What is the preferred method of connecting to a windows machine from ubuntu? A smbclient? Is there a gnome gui for one?
[02:16] <_native_> redguy; jk ;p
[02:17] <root__> I'm running irssi from console
[02:17] <root__> oops
[02:17] <redguy> _native_: O_o
[02:17] <faust> and from a user he shouldn't have too :)
[02:17] <_native_> root__; irrsi is tha shizznit.
[02:17] <dura> So, are the ATi drivers available or not available for 5.10?
[02:17] <snowowl> That disables the onboard video adapter - I Think
[02:17] <dura> It says yes and no on the wiki.
[02:17] <faust> dura: I installed ati drivers on my fresh setup today.
[02:17] <darksoul> !sources
[02:17] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:17] <redguy> !tell dura about ati
[02:17] <Mitja> redguy: I'm back
[02:18] <redguy> Mitja: did it work?
[02:18] <Mitja> redguy: no
[02:18] <dura> Red-Sox, I tried on a fresh install too. No go...
[02:18] <faust> Dura: xorg-fglrx-drivers
[02:18] <coz> I know what disbale onboard video in the bios but the problem is in the xorg file
[02:18] <Mitja> redguy: was here just before as root_
[02:18] <faust> then you just sudo fglrxsetup and reboot
[02:18] <dima202> Is there superkaramba for GNOME?????
[02:18] <dooglus> does anyone know how to get the touchpad to work in ubuntu?
[02:19] <Mitja> redguy: what's my next step. I don't want to reinstall the whole thing.
[02:19] <snowowl> hey - coz did you try the "nv" driver
[02:19] <faust> dooglus: you mean the synaptics touchpad on most laptops?
[02:19] <redguy> coz: but when you disable your card in BIOS you can do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:19] <dura> E: Couldn't find package xorg-fglrx-drivers
[02:19] <faust> That should work as default like a PS/2 mouse.
[02:19] <dura> Because I can't enable any sources heh.
[02:19] <dooglus> faust: I don't know if it's synaptics or not.  it's silver, with a serated bit on the right
[02:19] <redguy> Mitja: can you tell me what actually happened that you don't have X?
[02:20] <faust> dura: I'm an idiot..
[02:20] <dura> dooglus, I have two AMD64 laptops with synaptics touchpads, and they both work fine without any work.
[02:20] <faust> It's xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:20] <dura> faust, Nah...
[02:20] <dooglus> faust: it kind of works - I can use it to move the pointer, and to click, but it won't scroll, or honour any of the other settings in xorg.conf
[02:20] <stone_> I can't connect the Win2K Server printer to ubuntu,anybody may help me?
[02:20] <redguy> dura: read what ubotu told you
[02:20] <Mitja> redguy: I was in normally running in desktop mode and wrote "reboot" in konsole.
[02:20] <faust> dooglus: the scroll part, you can pretty much give up on that so far :)
[02:20] <dooglus> dura: I'm used to being able to use the right-hand edge of a touch pad to work the scrollbars.
[02:20] <redguy> Mitja: and the system rebooted?
[02:20] <Mitja> redguy: It rebooted and when it came back it gave login: in console
[02:20] <dura> redguy, I've been there and read it. Ever notice how it says on the wiki page that the drivers are both available and not available for AMD64?
[02:20] <dooglus> faust: whatu mean?
[02:21] <dura> dooglus, Yeah I am too... it that works also.
[02:21] <faust> dooglus: when it comes to X, I'm happy to get basic scroll mice working.
[02:21] <redguy> dura: they're propably not... :-)
[02:21] <dooglus> dura: so what if it doesn't? how do you fix it?
[02:21] <faust> There is some magic method, but it eludes me.
[02:21] <Mitja> redguy: I logged in and here I'm running irssi :)
[02:21] <snowowl> dima - its called gDeskletes
[02:21] <dura> dooglus, Hang on...
[02:21] <snowowl> or something of that flavor
[02:21] <dooglus> I'm pretty sure the synaptics driver just isn't loaded
[02:21] <redguy> Mitja: can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere?
[02:22] <umberleigh> hi. are there any multi-protocol p2p clients available in ubuntu's software repositories?
[02:22] <dooglus> I think basic 'move and click' functionality works without the driver.  none of the settings in xorg.conf make any difference
[02:22] <Mitja> redguy: I don't know how to do that
[02:22] <redguy> umberleigh: mldonkey
[02:22] <Nilbus> Ubuntu's 64bit os is multi-lib, right?
[02:22] <dima202> checking for kde-config... not found
[02:22] <dima202> configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!
[02:22] <dima202> Please check whether you installed KDE correctly.
[02:22] <nalioth> dima202: install kde-devel
[02:22] <umberleigh> redguy: really? i thought that was just for the edonkey network
[02:22] <redguy> Mitja: what happened when you did what I told you?
[02:23] <redguy> umberleigh: no, it' multi protocol, not sure which protocols it can use though
[02:23] <dima202> nalioth, and I can use it under gnome?
[02:23] <Mitja> redguy: as if kdm was already running. It said Stopping kdm. Then Starting kdm back again.
[02:23] <dura> dooglus, http://kerneltrap.org/node/1582
[02:23] <nalioth> dima202: of course you can
[02:23] <umberleigh> redguy: cheers. shall check it out
[02:23] <dooglus> dura: thanks
[02:23] <Moco> I have tried using the repos, but i still can't get gcc version 3.0 in synaptic. I have tried compiling gcc-3.0 from source but I get errors..
[02:23] <dura> That's the howto I used to get it working in Gentoo.
[02:23] <dima202> nalioth, Awesome man! THanks
[02:23] <dura> dooglus, np
[02:24] <Mitja> redguy: and then console back again, no gui
[02:24] <Victorjiang> is the bug day over?
[02:25] <redguy> Mitja: and what about the console under alt-f7? you can change consoles in text mode in case you didn't know (alt-f1 to alt-f8)
[02:25] <nalioth> Moco: gcc-3.0 is not in the repos, do you mean gcc-2.95  ?
[02:25] <dima202> nalioth, kdebase-dev also good?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> gcc 3.4?
[02:25] <dooglus> dura: problem is, I already had 'evdev' loaded, and the kernel is the standard one, which I know works with the touchpad on my laptop at home
[02:25] <Nilbus> Anyone have a 64bit Turion?  What wireless chip does it have?  Is it supported natively like Centrino's?
[02:25] <nalioth> dima202: sure is
[02:25] <Moco> I got that and installed it, but the mplayer ./cinfigure said it was unsupported..
[02:25] <Moco> ./configure
[02:26] <Mitja> redguy: could I post it on the internet through console?
[02:26] <Mitja> redguy: like in pastebin?
[02:26] <dima202> nalioth, THanks, installing
[02:26] <redguy> Mitja: If you have your mouse working in the console, yes
[02:27] <ricardo> dura
[02:27] <nalioth> Moco: install gcc-3.4, please
[02:27] <ricardo> i resolve my probelm
[02:27] <gar-> woot long time is taking the update
[02:27] <Moco> Allright... Doing it now...
[02:27] <ricardo> but thak
[02:27] <Nino> how do you install Gcc 3.4?
[02:27] <redguy> Mitja: you would have to have a text www browser (elinks perhaps)
[02:27] <Nino> wait i have 3.4 lol
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Nino,  you can install it from synaptic or apt-get gcc 3.4 i think
[02:28] <redguy> Mitja: or maybe try to read the logfile, the lines with EE signify errors
[02:28] <Mitja> redguy: I don't. However, these two errors are at the end of the file you requested: EE Problem parsing the config file. EE Error parsing the config file.
[02:28] <Nino> im doing that but its still spazing out saying Gcc3.4 Command not found :(
[02:29] <Mitja> redguy: Just realized: it might have been my mistake. I was adding some gamma values and probably didn't write them down correctly.
[02:29] <Moco> Nalioth, it is installing 3.4 now...
[02:30] <redguy> Mitja: hmmm, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:30] <redguy> Mitja: it should rebuild your xorg.conf file
[02:30] <Mitja> redguy: I would rather delete those gamma values...
[02:30] <Mitja> by hand
[02:30] <gnomefreak> gcc 3.4 may be in the build-essentials i cant remember if it has 4 or 3.4
[02:31] <Mitja> redguy is there an internet client I can run in console?
[02:31] <Moco> Yess! MPlayer install is working. Thanks!
[02:31] <redguy> 3.4
[02:31] <redguy> Mitja: you mean a www browser?
[02:31] <Mitja> redguy: kinda
[02:31] <redguy> Mitja: several, elinks or lynx for example
[02:31] <redondos> How can I change the default video player on my system? I assume, using update-alternatives, but I can't find the name in /etc/alternatives. Also, `update-alternatives --all` never prompted me to select a video player.
[02:32] <Victorjiang> ubotu: is the bug day over?
[02:32] <ubotu> Victorjiang: Wish i knew
[02:32] <Nino> how do i find which version of ubuntu i hve?
[02:32] <redguy> gnomefreak: for regular browsing, or in extreme situations only?
[02:32] <Mitja> redguy: commands not found on neither of them
[02:33] <gnomefreak> Victorjiang,  if you mean the us.archive server no its kinda working but not real great
[02:33] <xfree> Nino, uname -a
[02:33] <gnomefreak> regular
[02:33] <redguy> Mitja: you would have to install them first; sudo apt-get install elinks for example
[02:33] <gnomefreak> Redguy: define extreame situations please
[02:33] <Nino> but like breezy etc whats that?
[02:34] <Moco> Is MEncoder part of MPlayer or a seperate project?
[02:34] <xfree> Nino, on simple way if it 2.6.9 its hoary and if it 2.12.x its breezy
[02:34] <Madpilot> Nino: Breezy is just the nickname for the current stable version of Ubuntu
[02:34] <redguy> gnomefreak: hmm extreme was a bad word... to rephrase my question: you use it by choice or as a necessity?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> choice
[02:35] <Nino> 2.6.12-9-386
[02:35] <nalioth> Moco: it's part of mplayer
[02:35] <Moco> Good.
[02:35] <gnomefreak> i enjoy them sometimes they are faster and less bs on them
[02:35] <strokey> breezy badger has to be the best name ever
[02:35] <gnomefreak> Nino,  thats breezy kernel
[02:35] <Nino> it came on a free cd from mums work lol
[02:35] <nalioth> Moco: i recommend you run ./configure --help and see all the variables you can switch on or use
[02:35] <xfree> Nino, than its breezy :) i think there are other way
[02:35] <bimberi> Mitja: are you wanting to pastebin something from the console? There's a script that will do that...
[02:36] <redguy> gnomefreak: true...
[02:36] <Nino> and breezy comes with GCC3.4? any idea what the GCC3.4 command not found is about?
[02:36] <Moco> Allready make && make installed
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> Nino, lsb_release -a
[02:36] <navarone> gnomefreak> I have been playing with icons. I have gnome estra icons installed and I know how to select them, but are there any other locations which have suitable files for use as icons? I mean beyond /usr/pixmaps/other...? Or are there other icon pakages available in synaptic?
[02:36] <gnomefreak> Nino,  i think default is gcc 4.0
[02:37] <xfree> wickedpuppy, new thing on my lib :) thank you
[02:37] <Moco> Hopefully I can install acidrip after this... Had trouble doing it under cygwin.
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> xfree, if you wish cat /etc/issue
[02:38] <gnomefreak> navarone,  for gnome i dont think there are any other icons unless you want to build your own :) as for locations i dont think there is but i dont play with my icons often
[02:38] <navarone> gnomefreak> okie thnx
[02:38] <xfree> Nino, read on ubuntufourm.org about how to install vmware i think this what you try to do "something need gc3.4"
[02:38] <stimpie> My nautilus crashes when trying to too thumbnaile a  .ogg file
[02:38] <bimberi> Mitja: "wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin" then "chmod +x pastebin" then "cat <yourfile> | ./pastebin"
[02:39] <xfree> wickedpuppy, my hero of this day :) wow
[02:39] <Nino> thanks for the help xfree, i have no notion what im doing tho lol
[02:39] <gnomefreak> navarone, im not sure but have you checked gnome.org for icon themes?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> art.gnome.org
[02:40] <xfree> Nino, whay you ask about gcc 3.4?
[02:40] <Nino> im trying to install ieee80211 but when i "make" the file im getting an error saying that it cant make it
[02:41] <Mitja> bimberi: thanks :)
[02:41] <navarone> gnome> I have gnome-art installed...that that access same files?
[02:41] <bimberi> Mitja: np :)
[02:41] <Xen> is it possible to burn the livecd image to a dvd and use that?
[02:41] <Xen> because all I have is a DVD-RW
[02:42] <dima202> hmmm
[02:42] <Moco> Yes, xen
[02:42] <Nino> shall i paste the errors?
[02:42] <dima202> nalioth, I am still getting error
[02:42] <dima202> Making install in superkaramba
[02:42] <dima202> make[2] : Entering directory `/home/dima/Desktop/superkaramba/doc/superkaramba'
[02:42] <dima202> make[3] : Entering directory `/home/dima/Desktop/superkaramba/doc/superkaramba'
[02:42] <dima202> make[3] : Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
[02:42] <dima202> /bin/sh ../../admin/mkinstalldirs /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/superkaramba
[02:42] <dima202> mkdir -p -- /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/superkaramba
[02:42] <gnomefreak> yes but they might have a link to icons on the page i dont remember and im getting there i had to re-instasll ubuntu :(
[02:42] <dima202> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/share/doc/HTML': Permission denied
[02:42] <Moco> The image should work fine
[02:42] <dima202> make[3] : *** [install-nls]  Error 1
[02:42] <dima202> make[3] : Leaving directory `/home/dima/Desktop/superkaramba/doc/superkaramba'
[02:42] <Madpilot> !tell dima202 about pastebin
[02:42] <dima202> make[2] : *** [install-am]  Error 2
[02:42] <dima202> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/dima/Desktop/superkaramba/doc/superkaramba'
[02:42] <Moco> I  have done that with other live cds
[02:42] <faust> Hmm.. anyone here know how to make mplayer use -vo xv as default?
[02:42] <dima202> make[1] : *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[02:42] <dima202> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/dima/Desktop/superkaramba/doc'
[02:42] <Xen> ok
[02:42] <dima202> make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[02:42] <gnomefreak> dima202,  please dont paste in here
[02:42] <dima202> dima@ubuntu:~/Desktop/superkaramba$
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> tell dieman_ about pastebin
[02:42] <gnomefreak> dima202,  use pastebin to paste please
[02:42] <stimpie> dima202 dont spam
[02:43] <dima202> ooh
[02:43] <dima202> Sorry, forgot about pastebin
[02:43] <nasimuto> is there any way i can distribute some computing load off of my ubuntu laptop to my win xp desktop ?
[02:43] <xfree> Nino, because the kernel build with gcc 3.4 than that what i informed you about to do "vmware how to" its the same problem
[02:43] <faust> nevermind. found it myself.
[02:43] <dima202> stimpie, I am not spamming?
[02:43] <nasimuto> eg. shared computing
[02:43] <nalioth> dima202: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please before you are banned for pasting
[02:43] <rixth> EVERY keypress I make gets logged to /var/messages. I get THOUSANDS of these:
[02:43] <rixth> Nov 25 14:42:52 bear kernel: [4304054.659000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[02:43] <dooglus> faust: stcik 'vo=xv' in ~/.mplayer/config
[02:43] <Nino> xfree may i pm you?
[02:43] <Moco> dima202, I think he means you are making to many posts..
[02:43] <Moco> too many
[02:43] <gnomefreak> navarone, yes there is an icon link on that page
[02:43] <xfree> Nino, ok
[02:43] <Mitja> redguy: pasted through console: pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5023
[02:44] <Mitja> this is so exciting :D
[02:44] <Madpilot> dima202: a long paste like that counts as spamming...
[02:44] <RazorJack> Hey Guys, running a PVR-250 on 5.10 ubuntu.... in normal boot, kernel from the install CD the card is recognized as a PVR-150 and DOES NOT WORK, if I boot to recovery mode... it works fine. any ideas?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> navarone,  look at these http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/
[02:45] <navarone> gnomefreak> Yes I see...but mostly icon sets from themes that don't interest me much...<s> I was looking for cartoon and more symbolic type icons...not folder pics and such
[02:45] <ale3hs> hello, is it possible to connect my motorolla v975 throu usb in ubuntu?
[02:45] <ale3hs> an easy way
[02:45] <redguy> Mitja: hyrm, this seems to be a kernel .config
[02:45] <Moco> Have you tried?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> navarone,  im sorry i was using  a  text browser i wasnt able to tell what they were
[02:46] <Mitja> redguy: well, you asked for it. Would you like me anything else to paste?
[02:46] <navarone> gnomefreak> np...thanks for taking the time
[02:46] <gnomefreak> navarone,  not a problem im here to help
[02:48] <X2K4Y> hey all
[02:49] <mitja> redguy: back, having some experiments with irssi
[02:50] <rixth> How do I check the syslog again?
[02:50] <redguy> mitja: actually I wanted to see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[02:50] <xfree> is there a way to know what the last thing i do on apt-get -synaptic- upgrade install ?
[02:50] <mitja> redguy that was that file
[02:50] <mitja> redguy but I can always paste it again
[02:50] <Zugwrack> I can't connect to my windows smb shares...keeps telling me the password is incorrect...I know this is not the case...I have the Ubuntu ip and name in the windows hosts file...anything else I can do?
[02:51] <mitja> redguy: hang on
[02:51] <redguy> mitja: then the link might have been bad
[02:52] <Nino> how do i save txt in linux so thati can view it on a pc?
[02:52] <ralph_nader> hey, have I come to the right place for a basic ubuntu question?
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> Nino, save as .txt
[02:52] <redguy> ralph_nader: maybe
[02:52] <Nino> k thanks
[02:52] <mitja>   redguy: sorry, something wrong was pasted-don't have a clue. Here's a new link: pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5027
[02:52] <matthew> how do i get my ntfs partition to automatically mount on startup (the instructions on ubuntuguide.org don't work)
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> Nino, open office can save as .doc or export to pdf ... pls check those out
[02:53] <Nino> *spot the noobe!!!!*
[02:53] <Nino> lol
[02:53] <redguy> mitja: well, it is right there
[02:53] <ralph_nader> can you tell me what the minimum cpu requirements are to run 5.10 reasonably well?
[02:53] <redguy> mitja: Parse error on line 73 of section Monitor in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:53] <gar-> %72 upgrade =)
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> ralph_nader, min ?? sheesh ... whats ya system ? then we tell ya if you can run or not
[02:54] <mitja> redguy: I know, I've "mored" it
[02:54] <Nino> sure you cant move stuff from linux to a NTFS pendrive
[02:54] <umberleigh> in bash, how do i execute 2 commands on the same command line with the 2nd command starting without waiting for the first to complete?
[02:54] <mitja> redguy: it's the gamma settings most likely
[02:54] <redguy> mitja: propably
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> umberleigh, #bash
[02:55] <ralph_nader> wickedpuppy:  say an intel 800mhz
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> ralph_nader, thats way higher than min ....
[02:55] <redguy> mitja: you might want to do a backup of any file you alter, so that you can easily undo your changes in case something goes not the way you wanted it to
[02:55] <Zugwrack> umberleigh: command && command
[02:56] <dooglus> umberleigh: Zugwrack is telling you lies :)
[02:56] <redguy> Zugwrack: not true
[02:56] <mitja> redguy: yeah, for sure ;)
[02:56] <skullb0x> i just installed amsn from apt-get, where does it install to, and where do i add my plugins to?
[02:56] <umberleigh> Zugwrack: that waits for 1 command to complete before the 2nd starts
[02:56] <ralph_nader> wickedpuppy: OK, how about a 133mhz?
[02:56] <redguy> umberleigh: foo &; bar
[02:56] <dooglus> umberleigh: it onlyruns the 2nd command if the 1st one retuns a zero exit status, too
[02:56] <Zugwrack> uhhh..yeah..just checkin....if you know that then you know the answer to your first question
[02:57] <dooglus> umberleigh: the correct answer is foo & bar
[02:57] <glyn_> I know this isn't the right place to ask this, but is Accutane a steroid?
[02:57] <glyn_> maybe someone can tell me somewhere I can get an answer using Linux
[02:57] <glyn_> all I have is GAIM and Xchat
[02:57] <dooglus> glyn_: do you have "apt-get"?
[02:57] <glyn_> yes
[02:57] <Zugwrack> glyn: How about WebMD..that might be a good place to start...
[02:58] <ralph_nader> glyn_: you lucked out, i'm a pharmacist and no, it is a vitamin a derivative (on my shelf behind me)
[02:58] <dooglus> glyn_: so "apt-get install lynx", then use lynx to google it
[02:58] <redguy> holy shoot, I was wrong too
[02:58] <nasimuto> gnite
[02:58] <Moco> Ralph Nader's a pharmacists too?!!?
[02:58] <glyn_> thanks ralph_nader
[02:58] <Zugwrack> night nasi:
[02:58] <ralph_nader> in my store as i type
[02:59] <ralph_nader> and it's a nasty drug, and $$$ too
[02:59] <Moco> Wow. Sorry about the whole election thing.
[03:00] <mustermann> hey ralph, prilosec vs. prevacid?  big difference in effect?
[03:00] <nalioth> y'all take the offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:00] <dr_willis> :P
[03:01] <redguy> bye cruel world!
[03:01] <dooglus> redguy: don't worry
[03:01] <ralph_nader> mustermann: shouldn't be, they're cousins of each other.  sorry about the off topic.
[03:01] <Nino> why cant i save stuff on my pendrive?
[03:01] <umberleigh> what's the escape sequence for a newline in bash?
[03:01] <mustermann> thanks ralph.
[03:01] <navarone> Nino> writing to ntfs is not fully supported I think
[03:01] <Nino> starting to wonder why i changed to linux lol
[03:02] <gnomefreak> umberleigh,  isnt it \n?
[03:02] <mustermann> any wine users?  which override dll's are "musts'?
[03:02] <dr_willis> I wonder why people still use windows. :P
[03:02] <trincamckee> hi there
[03:02] <ralph_nader> so does anyone think i can run 5.10 on a 200mhz intel box?
[03:02] <gar-> gnome =/
[03:02] <umberleigh> gnomefreak: i'm a noob. :s
[03:02] <navarone> Nino> can you change pendrive format to fat32...fat32 is writable in linux
[03:02] <dooglus> umberleigh: what are you trying to do?
[03:02] <gar-> i dont like gnome but i dont have no me choice until i finnish upgrade :P
[03:02] <dr_willis> ralph_nader,  yes.. but you will want a very minimal window manager.
[03:02] <trincamckee> ralph_nader, no problem with that
[03:02] <trincamckee> i have my p200 runing ubuntu as well
[03:03] <trincamckee> but with xfce
[03:03] <dr_willis> it tool forever to install on my P100 :)
[03:03] <dooglus> !universe
[03:03] <Nino> navarone thanks ill give that a go
[03:03] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[03:03] <dr_willis> yea - that xubuntu variant with xfce replaceing gnome maybe worth looking into.
[03:03] <umberleigh> dooglus: find a quick work around to run mlnet and kmldonkey at the same time.
[03:03] <ralph_nader> trincamckee:ok that's what i needed to know.  thanks!
[03:03] <gar-> %90 =)
[03:03] <dooglus> umberleigh: you don't need an escaped newline for that, do you?
[03:04] <umberleigh> dooglus: it doesn't seem to work if i put mlnet in the background with a &
[03:04] <threeseas> my ubuntu breezy system got screwed and now only boots to a shell and won't allow me to run some binaries -- is there a way to start up the nautilus gui?
[03:04] <Cope57> < recently built pc with AMD64 cpu. Installed Ubuntu64 and could not get internet. I then tried the liveCD Ubuntu64 and still no Internet. Reinstalled Simply Mepis with no problems of Internet connection. Now the question is, what do I need to do to get Ubuntu64 to connect to Internet? Hardware is always found, but does not connect, even after many attempts.
[03:04] <dooglus> umberleigh: alias runboth="nohup mlnet & nohup kmldonkey &"
[03:04] <ZeroDni> hey I was wondering if anyone knew any good documentation on comparing the turn around time for security vulnerabilities in Ubuntu or other Debian base Linuxs and windows I have found some reports but they are about red hat and I dont believe red hat shows a good example of Linux because of a lot of their Microsoft practices thanks
[03:04] <dr_willis> threeseas,  try 'startx' yet?
[03:05] <navarone> Nino> unless you need pendrive for mobility reasons you could make a small fat32 partition and use that to transfer files backa nd forth
[03:05] <umberleigh> dooglus: thanks. i'll give it a try
[03:05] <threeseas> dr_willis: yes and get a can't execute binary message
[03:05] <dr_willis> threeseas,  sounds bad to me....
[03:05] <glyn_> ralph_nader:aren't lots of steroids vitamin derivatives?
[03:06] <Nino> im moving from my laptop to my desktop
[03:06] <threeseas> dr_willis: and due to the LVM I can't use knoppix to access and backup the drive
[03:06] <navarone> Nino> is the desktop set up with os yet?
[03:06] <brownie17> hey can someone help me? i am using rhythmbox and it was displaying all my music, but it seems when i put more music into it, it kicks out an old song
[03:07] <threeseas> is there a way to mount the ubuntu lvm
[03:07] <dr_willis> threeseas,  sounds VERY bad to me. But there may be some live cd that can handle the LVM -  no clue on that. never used it. sorry
[03:07] <Nino> the laptops got XP/Linux and the desktops got XP
[03:08] <Blissex> threeseas: would this help: http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/LVM2
[03:08] <navarone> Nino> why not just do a fresh install of ubuntu on desktop?
[03:08] <threeseas> would a reinstal of breezy would over write the old system completely?
[03:09] <Nino> cus i have no notion of linux figureed id mess around with the laptop installation first
[03:09] <Nino> cant even get wireless card working :(
[03:09] <Nino> been trying for 2 days
[03:09] <Blissex> Nino: wireless cards are a mess. You got to get one that is known to work. Most don't.
[03:09] <Blissex> Nino: you can get cheapo 11b USB sticks that are known to work well for like US$20 or similar.
[03:10] <Blissex> Nino: for a list on these: http://tinyurl.com/adhwx
[03:10] <Nino> its the Intel Pro 2200BG a few ppl have got it to work, i was nearly finished the tutorial but it wont make the ieee80
[03:10] <navarone> Nino> It is pretty easy. Most trouble comes with partitioning and bootloader...but you can install on desktop and get installer to resize windows partion(if you don't have freespace available) and install in the space you create.
[03:10] <Blissex> Nino: thats one of the few that work well...
[03:11] <Cope57> :-/
[03:11] <brownie17> everyone, i have just realised the absalute and complete beauty of amaroK!!! it is good as!
[03:11] <Nino> yeah thats what i did on the laptop, repartitioned 7GB for it
[03:11] <Blissex> Nino: I am somewhat surprised that the 2200BG does not ''just work''.
[03:11] <spikebike> does ubuntu have a minimal install?  If so how big is it?
[03:11] <navarone> Nino> I got new drive and set up partions for windows and left 14 gb for ubuntu...that should alst...lol
[03:12] <Nino> well it kinna did but it didnt let me connect so i figured it was an out of date driver
[03:12] <navarone> Nino> how are you connected on desktop? ethernet?
[03:12] <Nino> wireless
[03:12] <Nino> on the desktop
[03:13] <navarone> Nino> sry...can't help on wireless...I have so many wires around me I even wear cords
[03:13] <Cope57> <[03:13] <Nino> LMAO!
[03:13] <trincamckee> hey guys where can i delete xsession entries? http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg
[03:13] <trincamckee>  , as u see i have a duplicated xfce entrie, i tried to delete the desktop file under /usr/share/xsession but didnt work...
[03:13] <trincamckee> any clue?
[03:14] <Nino> is there anyway to reset ubuntu?  or just do a fresh install?
[03:14] <conn> hi, when I try to use a resolution of 1280x1024 or greater, glxgears, glxinfo etc. give segfaults. I think it's a problem with the r128 driver, can someone help?
[03:14] <navarone> Nino> I would do afresh install...and maybe use pendrive to backup system when satisfied
[03:15] <navarone> Nino> assuming drive is big enough
[03:15] <Nino> 512MB but its not writing to it and its FAT32
[03:15] <navarone> hmm
[03:15] <fevoldj2> is there mcrypt for php5 in ubuntu?
[03:16] <navarone> dunno anything about removable drives either...<sheesh I am useless> <s>
[03:16] <witless> how do i copy a music cd from the ubuntu desktop?
[03:17] <navarone> witless> are the files on the desktop?
[03:17] <Nino> heh we all cant know everything lol
[03:17] <Nino> gonna reinstall now
[03:17] <witless> navarone: they're on a music cd
[03:17] <Nino> *fingers crossed*
[03:17] <trincamckee> witless, try gnomebaker
[03:17] <dr_willis> or K3b
[03:17] <navarone> witless...you have to rip tracks first
[03:17] <witless> is there a method that's integrated into the desktop?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> anyone know if there is something like k-stars for gnome?
[03:17] <witless> navarone: i thought there was a way to do it in one shot similar to an iso
[03:18] <navarone> gnomefreak...I dunno about like k-stars...but try stellarium...it is gui tho
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ty navarone
[03:18] <navarone> witless> if you simply want to copy whole cd you use copy I guess
[03:18] <witless> navarone: i tried that, get "not valid iso 9660 format" error when i try to write it
[03:18] <witless> (to a blank cd)
[03:19] <navarone> gnomefreak...it is an amazing little prog...quite stylish...but not long on extended info
[03:19] <gnomefreak> navarone,  does it run in 2d?
[03:19] <navarone> gnome...google and look at screenshots...it is quite nice visually
[03:19] <ctcecil> navarone what proggy are you two discussing i just entered...
[03:19] <navarone> stellarium
[03:20] <navarone> gnome...i have another one in mind but it must be compiled from srcs
[03:20] <fevoldj2> Hi
[03:20] <navarone> gnomefreak> i will get addy for prog
[03:20] <fevoldj2> It looks like Ubuntu does not have a package for libmcrypt-php5 and I need it. Is there a way I can get it?
[03:20] <ctcecil> astronomy; wow definatly not my field, heh
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ty navarone
[03:21] <gar-> upgrading in progress =)
[03:21] <ajmitch_> fevoldj2: php5-mcrypt
[03:22] <gnomefreak> gar-,  are you using us.archives.ubuntu.com repos?
[03:22] <umberleigh> anyone know why this would be compaining 'no such file or directory': umberleigh@tessa2:~/old_home/bin$ $PATH = $PATH:/home/umberleigh/old_home/bin
[03:22] <fevoldj2> Yeah that's what I meant. The package does not exist.
[03:22] <navarone> gnomefreak> http://www.clearskyinstitute.com/xephem/index.html
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ty mav
[03:22] <gnomefreak> navarone,  even
[03:23] <gwark> is dvd::rip ubuntu native ?
[03:23] <navarone> gnomefreak> np
[03:24] <fevoldj2> ajmitch: it isn't in the repository and I have all the repos enabled.
[03:24] <fevoldj2> Is there a .deb I can get from somewhere else for it?
[03:25] <intmainvoid> !tell intmainvoid about sex
[03:25] <intmainvoid> ubotu said: i dunno what is 'sex'.
[03:25] <ubotu> okay, intmainvoid
[03:25] <gnomefreak> intmainvoid, lol im guessing that doesnt work
[03:25] <intmainvoid> =) Sorry ubotu. Just seeing.
[03:25] <conn> quick question, I've upgraded to the dapper dev release, and I'm having an issue with Xorg. Is it safe to report bugs to bugzilla using dapper? (this problem was in breezy too)
[03:26] <intmainvoid> Can anyone help me with my OpenGL? Nobody in #opengl is helping
[03:26] <vbgunz> anyone know of an easy way to back up my DVD home movies to MPG? I do not wish to make one GIGANTIC MPG file... I would like the individual cuts to remain seperate... Any ideas?
[03:26] <intmainvoid> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5028
[03:26] <gnomefreak> conn,  type /topic     :(
[03:27] <slide> Im launching a second X server ("X :1") inside a bash script, does anyone know how to get the pid of it? Im using gksudo to launch it actually, so $! wont work.
[03:27] <conn> gnomefreak: thx, but this is a prob with breezy, it's related to the r128 driver in Xorg
[03:27] <Nino> heres hoping i havnt just overwrote my windows install lol
[03:28] <gnomefreak> conn,  if using breezy you can config the xorg files
[03:28] <navarone> gnomefreak> that xephem is pretty hefty eh? lol
[03:28] <gnomefreak> navarone,  it is im gonna look more at it in morning
[03:28] <ctcecil> can i upgrade from hoary to breezy without a cd and without losing anything (like my wireless configuration that took forever to get working)
[03:28] <Nino> brb beer time
[03:28] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, yes you can
[03:28] <ctcecil> gnomefreak >> is it difficult?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, no its not there is a great wiki guide to upgrading but i lost it in reformat
[03:29] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[03:29] <ctcecil> ALSO how can i remove the root account password, i enabled it before i because familiar with sudo
[03:29] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:29] <M3t4lBoy> hello
[03:29] <M3t4lBoy> waaaa
[03:29] <gnomefreak> there you go
[03:29] <M3t4lBoy> my first try Ubuntu Live
[03:29] <ctcecil> thanks gnomefreak
[03:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ctcecil about upgrade please
[03:29] <gnomefreak> ywe
[03:30] <pablo928> M3t4lBoy-
[03:30] <intmainvoid> Can anyone help me with my OpenGL? Nobody in #opengl is helping
[03:30] <intmainvoid> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5028
[03:30] <M3t4lBoy> waaa... the first one to detect my network card AND my sound card... without mentioning my graphic card....
[03:30] <pablo928> What version?
[03:30] <M3t4lBoy> 5.1
[03:30] <M3t4lBoy> just received in the mail :D
[03:30] <gnomefreak> intmainvoid,  try in #ubuntu-offtopic they might beable to help
[03:30] <pablo928> M3t4lBoy- Are you going to install?
[03:30] <M3t4lBoy> got 5 of them... gonna share for sure... it work so good
[03:31] <navarone> ctceil> I think this is what you need...but I am not certain  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76629.html
[03:31] <M3t4lBoy> probably ;) I'll need another HD so I can still play my windows games
[03:31] <ctcecil> gnomefreak i ran into a problem already with pre upgrade saying ubuntu base qabd desktop are newest and it wants to to run apt-get -f install
[03:31] <navarone> ctcecil rather
[03:31] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, hold please
[03:31] <pablo928> M3t4lBoy- If you have the room on hhd, you can do a  dual boot.
[03:32] <Nino> beer + choc digestives = happy nino :)
[03:32] <ctcecil> thanks gnomefreak.
[03:32] <M3t4lBoy> I only have 8Go left ... not enough (I download too...)
[03:32] <Nino> so what are the advantages of linux over XP?
[03:32] <Agrajag> it's not $200
[03:32] <pablo928> M3t4lBoy- Yes, looks like you need 2nd drive.
[03:32] <M3t4lBoy> but I already tried Debian and Redhat... but Ubuntu is the only one who actually detected EVERYTHING
[03:32] <M3t4lBoy> that rocks
[03:32] <Nino> true lol
[03:32] <M3t4lBoy> yup pablo lol
[03:32] <witless> is there a way integrated into the gnome desktop to duplicate an audio cd?  i tried "copy cd", but writing the resulting iso to cd gave me "invalid iso 9660 format" errors
[03:32] <ctcecil> this apt-get -f install is removing all kinds of stuff... wtf?
[03:33] <navarone> Nino> free...secure...and did I mention free...?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  dwhat happened when you ran that command?
[03:33] <zcat[1] > XP isn't $200 either.. it's free with every computer
[03:33] <gnomefreak> no ctc
[03:33] <Agrajag> zcat[1] : ahahahahhahaahahahhaa
[03:33] <Agrajag> ahahahhahahahahahahhahahahah
[03:33] <Agrajag> oh mna
[03:33] <ctcecil> gnomefreak its doing alot of Removing...
[03:33] <Agrajag> oh
[03:33] <gnomefreak> dont run -f anything
[03:33] <Agrajag> free
[03:33] <Agrajag> aahahhahahaa
[03:33] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  hit cntl+c
[03:33] <Nino> we likes free stuff!
[03:33] <glick> anyone here ever use icarus verilog?
[03:33] <Agrajag> zcat[1] : you pay for windows whne you purchase the computer.
[03:33] <zcat[1] > free/unavoidable - you pay the same no matter what OS you want
[03:33] <ctcecil> gnomefreak it was apt-get and it told me to itself
[03:33] <Agrajag> zcat[1] : not true
[03:34] <zcat[1] > in fact you pay more if you want a box without windows usually..
[03:34] <Agrajag> some places will sell you a computer with no OS, or with linux or freedos installed
[03:34] <Nino> XP came preinstall on my laptop but i got windows on desktop via "other means"
[03:34] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  what you want to run is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[03:34] <ctcecil> gnomefreak : great so i just screwed myself for a new re-install
[03:34] <Agrajag> or you can always make your own, it's not rocket surgery.
[03:34] <pppoe_dude> is it safe to run gnunetd as root? it seems to be giving me a permission error
[03:34] <ctcecil> yeah i did that which told me to apt-get -f
[03:34] <gnomefreak> no you didnt ctcecil
[03:34] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : if I wanted to buy a copy of XP to run on this machine - which I bought w/o an OS - it would cost me $400 Cdn for XP Pro...
[03:34] <ctcecil> now apt get is giving an error.
[03:34] <threeseas> is there any way at all to access the lvm from a ubuntu breezy live cd? I'd like to back it up to dvd before reinstalling --- man this sucks
[03:34] <ctcecil> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[03:34] <ctcecil> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:34] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  what error?
[03:34] <pablo928> zcat[1] - unfortunately very few manufacturers off the option of no os.
[03:35] <Nino> i wish dell would offer an option of "no shite"
[03:35] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  ok run sudo dpkg --configure -a and let me know what it does
[03:35] <Mitja> oh, man I like it so much internet in console! it asks you about every cookie!
[03:35] <rcmiv> winXP is not free
[03:35] <zcat[1] > if you want to buy a pre-built machine from any big retailer, no-os generally costs more than Windows. Weird, but true..
[03:36] <pablo928> Does anyone know of a laptop that ships with no os?
[03:36] <rcmiv> heh
[03:36] <threeseas> when installing breezy, do I recall the option to not use LVM?
[03:36] <Mitja> pablo928: sure, you can get them in Slovenia
[03:36] <ctcecil> Setting up alot of stuff, gnomefreak
[03:36] <navarone> zcat> it sounds like you are saying people have to pay not to have windows instaled...:/
[03:36] <gnomefreak> threeseas,  it gives you the option to use lvm in the partion stage
[03:36] <Nino> is linux better for java programming?
[03:36] <ctcecil> locales, etc
[03:36] <zcat[1] > which just goes to prove that simply installing Windows makes your hardware less valuable
[03:36] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  good
[03:36] <ctcecil> Nino -- YES. ITS BETTER FOR EVERYTHING! =]
[03:36] <Nino> i think we need to use linux next year in university
[03:36] <Agrajag> Nino: the JVM should act the same in any OS
[03:37] <threeseas> thanks
[03:37] <Nino> true
[03:37] <holycow> and eclipse works everywhere
[03:37] <Davey> shame it blows
[03:37] <gnomefreak> Nino, better is a personal opion but they act pretty much the same from platform to platform eclipse is already in your ubuntu repos :)
[03:37] <Nino> just discovered eclipse its fantastic!!!
[03:37] <ctcecil> now the apt-get for ubuntu-desktop gave ALOT of unmet dependencies, so i DID infact screw myself.
[03:37] <Nino> the stepthrough function is fantastic
[03:37] <ctcecil> gnomefreak^
[03:38] <holycow> *shrug* there are enough people out there to disagree with ya, it all depends on how your framing the answer
[03:38] <Nino> is it really?  ill have to hoke it out
[03:38] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  if you screwed yourself you would know cause you wouldnt beable to recover
[03:38] <ctcecil> it gave 3 pages of "Depends: "
[03:39] <ctcecil> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[03:40] <gnomefreak> apt-get -f install what?
[03:40] <ctcecil> it says run it by itself E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[03:40] <zcat[1] > apt-get -f install (nothing)
[03:41] <gnomefreak> ok run that with sudo ctcecil
[03:41] <zcat[1] > "with no packages" -- you speak english?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> its safe :)
[03:41] <ctcecil> gnomefreak -- i did, and thats what REMOVED everything
[03:42] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, i just ran it and it didnt ask me to remove anything
[03:42] <zcat[1] > hmm.. if it's removing lots of stuff your sources.list must be very broken
[03:42] <ctcecil> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[03:42] <ctcecil> and it listed about 30 packages including libgconf, libgnome, libgtk
[03:43] <psusi> ctcecil, you running dapper?
[03:43] <ctcecil> and im sure it would've listed many more if they hadnt already been removed.
[03:43] <ctcecil> no.,
[03:43] <ctcecil> hoary
[03:43] <psusi> hrm...
[03:43] <zcat[1] > I'd let it go ahead and remove them. How bad can it get? :-)
[03:43] <psusi> why can't you just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to reinstall all the removed stuff?
[03:44] <gnomefreak> psusi,  he can
[03:44] <Sparky_> re all..
[03:44] <ctcecil> psusi -- my apt-get is being weird, I did that and its saying it depends on all this stuff to install
[03:44] <zcat[1] > It's probably trying to remove them because they're the wrong packages.
[03:44] <holycow> what is the max ram a 32 bit os can address?
[03:44] <ctcecil> !upgrade
[03:44] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:45] <Knorrie> holycow: 2^32?
[03:45] <ctcecil> lol i just try to run firefox
[03:45] <ctcecil> and it's been removed.
[03:45] <ctcecil> great.
[03:45] <Sparky_> ok..that was fun..NOT
[03:45] <holycow> ctcecil, so install it back on
[03:46] <ctcecil> Cant. The dependencies are removed. apt-get complains about them
[03:46] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop see what it says
[03:46] <ctcecil> gnomefreak: i did that earlier when you asked and told you about the 3 pages of unmet dependencies it was complaining about
[03:46] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, that was with ubuntu-base
[03:47] <ctcecil> gnomefreak: aparently not i just ran just with ubuntu-desktop and it does the same
[03:47] <ctcecil> zcat[1]  my apt-get is being gay and is complaining about dependencies without installing them itself
[03:47] <gnomefreak> zcat[1] ,  he said he did it i thought thats why ff isnt there
[03:48] <Sparky_> bbiab
[03:48] <navarone> gnomefreak> could this problem be caused by repos being unavailable?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> ctcecil,  are you using us.archive.ubuntu.com repos?
[03:48] <ctcecil> zcat[1]  i did do that and it removed EVERYTHING
[03:48] <ctcecil> gnomefreak, yes i just redid my repos
[03:48] <gnomefreak> navarone, use de instead of us than run sudo apt-get update
[03:48] <psusi> ctcecil, apt-get will install other packages that this one depends on automatically
[03:49] <ctcecil> psusi - thats what i thought, but its not
[03:49] <ctcecil> psusi - its just complaining about dependencies
[03:49] <zcat[1] > 'complaining' means what?
[03:49] <ctcecil> the only thing i see to fix this now is re-installing with my hoary cd
[03:49] <ctcecil> holdon ill paste it
[03:49] <psusi> odd... maybe your sources.list is weird?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> ill bbl a lil later i got to take meds
[03:49] <ctcecil> Wait, i cant, firefox wont install
[03:50] <holycow> brb
[03:50] <ctcecil> psusi where is sources list located i forgot
[03:50] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <ctcecil> nvm
[03:50] <ctcecil> lol. sudo: gedit: command not found
[03:50] <ctcecil> this is rediculous
[03:50] <ctcecil> vi works
[03:51] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, did you run that in vi or terminal?
[03:52] <ctcecil> i ran it in terminal
[03:52] <ctcecil> obviously gedit has been removed
[03:52] <strokey> i need some help guys
[03:52] <ctcecil> but vi is still available
[03:52] <strokey> i installed ndiswrapper with apt-get
[03:52] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, is that the only os on that pc?
[03:52] <strokey> and then did ndiswrapper -i <my wirelesss .inf file>
[03:52] <strokey> what do i do now? :E
[03:52] <ctcecil> gnomefreak what are you talking about
[03:52] <psusi> ctcecil, in /etc/apt
[03:53] <ctcecil> gnomefreak my ubuntu?
[03:53] <theCore> strokey: what is your wireless chipset?
[03:53] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, is that the only operating system on that computer
[03:53] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:53] <strokey> theCore: im not sure
[03:53] <ctcecil> psusi i just replaces my sources.list with my backup and still no cigar.
[03:53] <Nino> reintalled and my wireless card is there WOOHOO!!!
[03:53] <strokey> zcat[1] : thanks for the help! :_:
[03:53] <theCore> strokey: what is the model then?
[03:53] <ctcecil> gnomefreak : im dual booted with windows, but i rarely ever touch it.
[03:53] <strokey> yakumo quickWLAN USB
[03:54] <ctcecil> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[03:54] <psusi> ctcecil, you did an apt-get update right?
[03:55] <theCore> strokey: the brand ?
[03:55] <strokey> yakumo
[03:55] <ctcecil> psusi yes and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop still is giving dependency errors
[03:55] <nickrud> ctcecil, you have a line like deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main restricted also, right?
[03:55] <theCore> strokey: yakumo ????
[03:55] <gnomefreak> ctcecil, the fastest way i can think of at 10pm would be to use the install disk to recover but i dont think you can with ubuntu or re install it than from there dont do the updates or nothing just use the instructions on that page
[03:55] <ctcecil> nuckrud - yes
[03:55] <strokey> theCore: that is what i said
[03:55] <odin> Is 660 the right permission for all users read only?
[03:55] <brownie17> can someone tell me how i can edit text sizes and stuff like that in KDE?
[03:56] <Hmmmm> hi guys, anyone familiar with gnump3d?
[03:56] <theCore> strokey: i never heard this brand ... but anyway  lets try 2 fix it ;)
[03:56] <zcat[1] > I've tried to use ndiswrapeprs several times; most windows drivers I think don't follow the standard and do all kinds of funky system calls of their own just to make things work.
[03:56] <zcat[1] > .. which means they'll never work anywhere but windows
[03:56] <ctcecil> hopefully ill be back tonight?
[03:56] <strokey> theCore,ok
[03:56] <strokey> they have a site
[03:56] <strokey> www.yakumo.com
[03:57] <ctcecil> thanks for atleast trying psusi, gnomefreak
[03:57] <nickrud> ctcecil, put just the line deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse in your /etc/apt/sources.list, do a sudo apt-get update, and try again.
[03:57] <theCore> strokey: is the brand of your computer, right ?
[03:58] <strokey> theCore
[03:58] <strokey> no
[03:58] <theCore> strokey: yakumo* is the brand of your computer, right ?
[03:58] <strokey> yakumo is the wireless USB stick i have
[03:58] <theCore> strokey: okay ... i see
[03:58] <strokey> ive given it the .inf file my install cd has
[03:58] <strokey> i just need to know what to do next ;o
[03:58] <theCore> strokey: i know what you must do
[03:58] <pppoe_dude> is the jabber.org server down?
[03:59] <brownie17> who will help me with basic stuff in KDE?
[04:00] <brownie17> someone bloody help me
[04:00] <atrophic> brownie17, ask your question
[04:00] <cheryl> hahahaha
[04:00] <brownie17> atrophic, i want to know how to change text size and stuff in KDE
[04:00] <theCore> strokey: do that in your term : cd /the_dir_you_put_the_wlan_drivers_into/
[04:00] <theCore> strokey: sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf (fill out your own drivers for bcmwl5.inf)
[04:01] <strokey> ive done that
[04:01] <theCore> strokey: sudo ndiswrapper -l (shows if the driver is installed)
[04:01] <atrophic> brownie17, I can't help you, I use gnome. Somebody should be able to answer the question though. Are you using kde on ubuntu?
[04:01] <cheryl> hello
[04:01] <theCore> strokey: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:01] <brownie17> atrophic, yes
[04:01] <theCore> strokey: sudo dmesg (shows that the card is installed (hopefully))
[04:02] <dr_willis> kde has a very well done 'font selection/windows perferances' tools.
[04:02] <matthew> iv'e downloaded the restricted format deb package (and installed it) - how do i stream asx files (which app do i use?)
[04:02] <theCore> strokey : do you follow ?
[04:02] <strokey> yuh
[04:02] <strokey> but im on windows
[04:02] <pppoe_dude> gnunet doesnt seem to be working for me
[04:02] <strokey> so im writing it down
[04:02] <brownie17> dr_willis, where?
[04:02] <theCore> strokey: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan (shows all APs surrounding you)
[04:02] <dr_willis> brownie17,  check their  perferances/control panel menu items.
[04:03] <pppoe_dude> whats a good anonymous p2p file sharing system other than gnunet?
[04:03] <theCore> strokey: sudo ndiswrapper -m
[04:03] <strokey> theCore: i have all that written down