[19:48] <yeats> unk: ok - sorry - I don't know, then
[19:48] <yeats> Jimbo99: I would ask in #zimbra
[19:48] <unk> yeats: do i have to use irssi everytime for that/?
[19:49] <yeats> unk: again - I don't know
[19:49] <Milez-> can 2 seperate installs of ubuntu on the same PC use the same swap partition?
[19:49] <unk> yeats:ok
[19:49] <gettons_ita> ok
[19:49] <llutz> Milez-: sure
[19:49] <Milez-> ty ty
[19:50] <urlin2u> shawn_, capitalization is considered to be shouting and continualpost rude, just saying.
[19:50] <urlin2u> I don't care just letting you know. shawn_
[19:51] <mdlueck> I ran into trouble installing from a 10.04.3 x86 LiveCD. I burned a copy of 10.04.3 and have an installation error. I ran the self-check of the CD and it shows one file in error. However the burned CD image, and the .iso file, all have matching checksums with the checksum file on the server. Please explain where the problem is.
[19:52] <mdlueck> Perhaps there is a bad package on the CD image?
[19:52] <Milez-> what was the install error?
[19:52] <Polah> mdlueck: Reburn the CD perhaps?
[19:52] <mdlueck> I tried burning the CD twice, same error
[19:52] <mdlueck> The MD5sum of the .iso file and the resulting CD match.
[19:52] <Milez-> is there any error info?
[19:53] <Milez-> a messege?
[19:53] <nac-godfather> anyone got ndiswrapper or any driver working for a cisco/linksys ae2500 usb?
[19:53] <mdlueck> I did a self check of the CD and it says that one package fails, does not tell which one
[19:53] <unk> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services   what does it means??
[19:53] <OerHeks> mdlueck, burn @ 4x/8x speed
[19:53] <urlin2u> mdlueck, probably a new download may be in order finding a error package is a bit tough I think.
[19:53] <yeats> unk: ask in #freenode
[19:53] <Milez-> unk - that's a freenode thing
[19:54] <unk> yeats: i dont you how to do that??
[19:54] <xial> unk: it means you need to be registered with nickserv, i think...
[19:54] <Milez-> unk - type /join #freenode :)
[19:54] <bastidrazor> !register | unk
[19:54] <mdlueck> urlin2u: but the md5sum on the server matches the downloaded .iso and the resulting CD's when unmounted
[19:54] <yeats> mdlueck: have you tried just installing with the "bad" CD?
[19:55] <mdlueck> yeats: That is how I encountered the error... installation halted the first try of the 10.04.3 CD
[19:55] <yeats> mdlueck: I see - just a thought
[19:55] <mdlueck> yeats: Next I checked for errors
[19:56] <mdlueck> Anyone having success with 10.04.3 x86 LiveCD?
[19:56] <Polah> mdlueck: If the ISO md5sum matches then it's most likely an incorrect burn.
[19:56] <yeats> mdlueck: you might try the alternate CD too - it's easier to discover what's actually (not) going on
[19:56] <yeats> !alternate | mdlueck
[19:56] <Milez-> mdlueck - run a scan on the destination harddrive if you can
[19:56] <RealAndy> does anyone know how to solve this: (when the patch doesn't work) http://www.itservices.manchester.ac.uk/vpn/install/linux/problem/
[19:56] <Milez-> oh nm, you failed the cd check.
[19:56] <ubuntu_> test
[19:56] <Milez-> its not the HD.
[19:56] <Polah> ubuntu_: 50/100, C-
  what with result.txt ? Do You see something strange ?
[19:57] <mdlueck> I would think since the entire CD image md5sum matches, that the master image has a bad package on it, no?
[19:57] <krakow> fdfdf
[19:58] <yeats> mdlueck: very doubtful, since no one else in here has that issue, but possible
[19:58] <Polah> mdlueck: No one seems to have an issue and I think that'd be pretty unlikely. Your ISO matches but your CD is bad, reburn your CD.
[19:58] <mdlueck> I manually unmounted the CD and did an md5sum check of the burned CD, matches the advertised md5sum of the .iso file
[19:58] <Milez-> mdlueck - try a slower burn speed, 4x.  i've had that fix that problem a few times now.
[19:58] <Milez-> i know the crc's match, it doesnt make sense, but, you should try if you havent yet.
[19:59] <mdlueck> I tried reburning on a second blank CD, same md5sum, same "fail of CD self check" siting one package fails
[19:59] <urlin2u> michal_, I didn't see you post it hold on
[19:59] <shawn_> Can someone please help me with my Problem, Ive tryed everything to get this thing to be corrected.. The sound goes through my Subwoofer not my main speakers, i have a  Realtek alc888 sound card, msi gt660 laptop, im not sure its the module or if its using the wrong jack.
[19:59] <Milez-> mdlueck - at high speed?
[20:00] <mdlueck> Milez: I burn with K3b on a 52x burner, and let it pick its speed
[20:00] <kasi_> does fileExistsInGuest only work for files on the drive? This doesn't work with files in the shared folder, but it works with files on the c:\ drive: vmrun ${opts} fileExistsInGuest "$VM" Z:\\vmware-share\\b.bat
[20:00] <Milez-> mdlueck - ok.  try 4x.  thats all i got.
[20:00] <mdlueck> Milez: Will do.
[20:01] <mdlueck> Milez: Do you think I can trust the downloaded ISO since the md5sum matches...??? Well for that matter the md5sum of the unmounted CD matches... hhhmmm....
[20:02] <nulld3vice> i want to do a tiny shell script: "a=1 b=5  for i in {$a..$b}; do echo $i; done"
[20:02] <mdlueck> I need to install soon the x64 version, so truing to decide if I trust 10.04.3 to download / burn another "bum" image of...
[20:02] <yeats> mdlueck: you could try installing in VirtualBox using the ISO - if you really want to test it
[20:02] <nulld3vice> but it doesn'works
[20:02] <nulld3vice> :(
[20:03] <mdlueck> yeats: great thought!
[20:03] <llutz> nulld3vice: for i in $(seq 1 5) ....
[20:03] <mdlueck> I will... oh, can I install x64 on x86 VirtualBox?
[20:03] <urlin2u> michal_, it loos correct as far as I can see, you have done a reload of the mbr recognizing the difference between sdX=mbr and sdaXX as a partition correct?
[20:03] <urlin2u> looks*
[20:04] <urlin2u> sdXX&
[20:04] <mdlueck> I am intending to try switching to x64 as I rebuild my system
[20:04] <nulld3vice> yeaah
[20:04] <urlin2u> michal_, sorry sdx=mbr sdxx=partition\
[20:04] <nulld3vice> thanks mate
[20:04] <nulld3vice> :D
[20:04] <yeats> mdlueck: don't know about that... - I've never tried - some of it depends on whether your processor has virtualization extensions
[20:05] <michal_> urlin2u, yes in my case hda is hd -mbr and hda3 is ext4 linux partition
[20:05] <swap> #ubuntu-b
[20:05] <swap> #ubuntu-br
[20:05] <yeats> swap: do /join #ubuntu-br
[20:05] <swap> ok
[20:06] <mdlueck> yeats: My CPU had some extensions which I needed to upgrade the BIOS to enable them. G33 chipset and 8500 CPU I seem to recall.
[20:06] <mdlueck> "Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8500  @ 3.16GHz"
[20:06] <michal_> urlin2u, i installed ubuntu from flashdrive , but it doesn't matter?
[20:07] <swap> Thank you very much
[20:07] <mdlueck> I will at least try downloading 10.04.3 x64 Live and see what VirtualBox thinks. Thanks all! :-)
[20:07] <mdlueck> fin
[20:07] <ssfdre38> how can i completely remove phpmyadmin from my server
[20:08] <llutz> ssfdre38: apt-get purge phpmyadmin
[20:08] <mdlueck> ssfdre38: Purge the package
[20:08] <michal_> urlin2u, any ideas ?
[20:08] <mdlueck> Less invasive than sudo rm -rf /   ;-)
[20:08] <urlin2u> michal_, there is no hda, that is grub legacy, did you use the chroot link I gave and reload using sda and sda3, you have to run a fdisk -l when using a thumb to make sure it is seeing the HD as sda not sdb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[20:09] <bastidrazor> !danger
[20:09] <bastidrazor> mdlueck: don't post that here. that is not a funny joke
[20:09] <llutz> mdlueck: don't show that command here, not even for a joke. there are enough ... (experiences users) trying it
[20:10] <henningvis> I have removed Pam face notication but it still calls for its modules for authentication -- how do I remove it?
[20:10] <Milez-> it's all fun and games until someone loses a root drive.
[20:10] <mdlueck> L O L... I know how to get Windows people worked up... seems same for *nix folks
[20:10] <mdlueck> fin
[20:10] <Milez-> what a dick.
[20:10] <michal_> urlin2u,  " make sure it is seeing the HD as sda not sdb"  maby this is the problem, i'll try to do it this way
[20:11] <urlin2u> michal_, yeah with a thumb the hd gets switched to sdb often, always run that fdik -l it will save you alot of trouble.
[20:12] <subone> I'm not sure if this is a limitation with zsnes or some other component of X/gnome/ubuntu etc, so I'm asking here as well as #zsnes: Is there any way to run zsnes in fullscreen on ubuntu and still have access to my media keys (e.g. Volume Up/Down)
[20:12] <urlin2u> fdisk -l
[20:12] <tonywade> any 1 got any ways to speed up your network
[20:12] <unk> hi
[20:12] <Awesomeo2000> unk: hi
[20:13] <Milez-> ugh. why is ubuntu install trying to write grub onto my flashdrive mbr
[20:13] <Milez-> i guess i can just run grub-install on the proper drive after the installation completes?
[20:13] <urlin2u> Milez-, it happens use the something else option on install placement you can point grub there.
[20:14] <Milez-> oh ok
[20:14] <urlin2u> Milez-, a thimb will sometime end up being the sda.
[20:14] <urlin2u> thumb
[20:14] <Mondragon> is there an updated version of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Python anywhere?
[20:14] <Milez-> got it, thanks
[20:15] <urlin2u> Milez-, you can reload grub though as you suggest to the correct mbr, if the thumb get the grub you can boot the OS and do it from the desktop.
[20:15] <Milez-> yah i just said "
[20:15] <urlin2u> with the thumbs grub
[20:16] <Milez-> yah i just said "NO" to install on master, then it let me type in /dev/sdb
[20:16] <urlin2u> Milez-, which release?
[20:16] <unk123> j
[20:16] <Milez-> this is 11.04
[20:17] <Milez-> command line
[20:17] <tonywade> hello
[20:17] <hellslinger> the JumpyCursorThreshold property doesn't seem to have any effect on my synaptics touchpad
[20:17] <urlin2u> Milez-, there is adropdown if your at the something else. a fdisk -l in the terminal will tell you how he HD and thumb are being read
[20:17] <hellslinger> does anyone know how to make this work?
[20:17] <tonywade>  milez
[20:17] <Milez-> nah im good
[20:17] <Milez-> it worked
[20:17] <Milez-> hey tony
[20:18] <urlin2u> Milez-, cool sounded like you were. :D
[20:18] <tonywade> do u know how to speed up the internet thanks
[20:18] <Milez-> actually i do.
[20:18] <tonywade> really?
[20:18] <Milez-> you need more bandwidth.
[20:18] <Gentoo64> tonywade, silly question
[20:18] <a4> So i installed 11.10 beta dr_willis and it does by default KEEP your desktop aligned muhaha
[20:19] <tonywade> fine lol sorry i asked
[20:19] <benoliver999> tonywade, lol
[20:19] <Milez-> tonywade - If your internet experience is slow, it's either your PC that needs an upgrade, or your internet connection.
[20:19] <conntrack> Not amazing but I just figured how to force skype to use SSL
[20:19] <tonywade> im using satellite connection
[20:20] <Gentoo64> tonywade, thats why then
[20:20] <urlin2u> tonywade, is the browser slow? you can run a speed test to see if you getting the correct speed.
[20:20] <Milez-> omg satellite
[20:20] <Milez-> no
[20:20] <Milez-> :(
[20:20] <tonywade> yes
[20:20] <Chat7485> hey
[20:20] <Gentoo64> actually disabling ipv6 (if you dont use it) can speed things up
[20:20] <tonywade> how do i disable it
[20:20] <Gentoo64> hang on ill check
[20:20] <Milez-> your data has to go up to a satellite and back down.  it's a costly trip to make.  See if you can get something besides satellite in your area.
[20:20] <pjdelport> hi there; i'm trying to set up Internet connection sharing for a LAN (on Ubuntu 11.04)
[20:21] <urlin2u> tonywade, also fasterfox FF addon will speed thing up a bit as well, and the latest FF release.
[20:21] <tonywade> where do i get faster fox
[20:21] <urlin2u> tonywade, it is a addon use the addon in tools
[20:22] <Gentoo64> tonywade, http://goo.gl/lEy9
[20:22] <urlin2u> ff tools
[20:22] <pjdelport> i have the DSL connection set up and working in the Network Manager, and i also configured my Ethernet connection to be shared
[20:22] <tonywade> can i get it 4 chromium
[20:22] <pjdelport> but it seems Network Manager only lets you connect with one of those at a time
[20:22] <Gentoo64> tonywade, no
[20:22] <Gentoo64> i dont htink so
[20:22] <tonywade> ok just firefox
[20:23] <urlin2u> tonywade, don't use it but I think chrome has it.
[20:23] <pjdelport> in other words, i can either connect to the DSL provider, in which case NM disables the eth0 configuration for the LAN
[20:23] <tonywade> k thanks
[20:23] <pjdelport> or i can enable the LAN (and connection sharing), but then NM disables the DSL connection
[20:23] <pjdelport> is there a way around this?
[20:24] <pythonsnake> can I use oneiric for  regular use ?
[20:24] <Gentoo64> tonywade, basically its your connection. you can tweak stuff to make things more reponsive (sometimes) but chrome has very good defaults
[20:24] <urlin2u> pythonsnake, the general answer is if you have to ask no.
[20:24] <pjdelport> i tried to see if you can configure connection sharing on the actual DSL connection, but its IPv4 settings tab does not have the "Shared to other computers" option
[20:25] <tonywade> ya i wish i could sometin better than satellite
[20:25] <a4> im using it for regular use pythonsnake... they just dont recommend using it on a machine that is relied on for service /business
[20:25] <pythonsnake> ok Thanks
[20:25] <urlin2u> or stabilty
[20:25] <Gentoo64> tonywade, try looking at using polipo with chrome, it caches pages and makes them load faster if they havent been changed
[20:26] <tonywade> k thanks
[20:29] <michal_> urlin2u, i double chcek i still have problem
[20:30] <michal_> urlin2u, how i can boot OS from grub rescue
[20:32] <Guest75359> Hello! Anyone can help me solve some doubts I have about partitioning my hard drives, related to mount points
[20:33] <Ttech> Guest75359, You are doing it manually?
[20:33] <michal_> urlin2u, how i can boot OS from grub rescue
[20:33] <alkafoo> Guest75359: what doubts?
[20:33] <Guest75359> yes, I am at the live session atm, right to apply
[20:33] <alkafoo> michal_: what's the problem?
[20:33] <Guest75359> what I need is...
[20:34] <alkafoo> Guest75359: to finish your messages
[20:34] <Guest75359> I have 2x 500gb HDs and I want to mount the / in one HD and the /home in another...
[20:34] <Ttech> I usually do 200mb for /boot, 50% of / and 50% for /home
[20:34] <urlin2u> michal_, you might try a supergrub disc. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/  If that gets you in you can reload the mbr from the desktop
[20:34] <michal_> alkafoo, i hava a problem with grub after instalation ubuntu on my notebook, this is result.txt http://pastebin.com/0reqpP77
[20:35] <alkafoo> Guest75359: you're never going to use up 500GB just on OS files, but it won't actually hurt anything
[20:35] <Guest75359> but, I want to install every app in the / even games... is it possible?
[20:35] <alkafoo> Guest75359: yeah, but you'll still never get to 500GB
[20:35] <koumi> hi
[20:35] <alkafoo> koumi: hi
[20:35] <urlin2u> michal_, is that a script run after your last try?
[20:35] <michal_> urlin2u, can i use this superdiskgrub with flashdrive ?
[20:35] <Guest75359> that's why I am in doubt
[20:35] <Guest75359> how to partition it...
[20:36] <koumi> e\any any of yoy know c?
[20:36] <michal_> no this is the old one but i cant see any difference
[20:36] <urlin2u> michal_, it is spradic there I use a actual cd
[20:36] <guntbert> koumi: ask in ##c
[20:36] <Guest75359> on Windows, I used the second HDd as my Data partition, not sure how to do it in Linux/Ubuntu
[20:36] <alkafoo> Guest75359: it's still fine that way, it'll give /home/ 500GB to start with, and if you need you can always make a generic storage dir on /
[20:36] <mickster04> Guest75359: yes that's doable
[20:36] <alkafoo> Guest75359: also you can mirror your important personal files on both, for backup
[20:36] <koumi> ## any of yoyuknow c?
[20:37] <Guest75359> I have a lot of backup files to put in the /home/ partition
[20:37] <alkafoo> koumi: #friendly-coders
[20:37] <urlin2u> michal_, your choice but with the script any changes made will need a new scipt to be accurate.
[20:37] <jargon> REGULAR MATTER HIGGS-BOSON AND STRANGLETTE GOING TO IN LESS THAN 11 MINUTES COLLIDE WITH ANTI-MATTER HIGGS-BOSON AND STRANGLETTE IN 1992 TO TAKE OUT TE FORMER BLACKWATER ZED, THE 8/1000TH PERCENT FOURTH REICH AT OLD MANHATTAN PROJECT DEEP BELOW GOLDEN CALF.
[20:37] <Guest75359> it will take most of the space there
[20:37] <alkafoo> Guest75359: mmhmmm
[20:37] <jargon> THIS IS OUTSIDE NYSE.
[20:37] <alkafoo> jargon: ha
[20:38] <jargon> http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
[20:38] <SuperNoeMan> hey
[20:38] <jargon> PROOF
[20:38] <SuperNoeMan> I have been thinking about a hypothetical project
[20:38] <mickster04> ot!
[20:38] <SuperNoeMan> I want to take the regular desktop keyboard that I have
[20:38] <guntbert> jargon: keep to the toipc of this channel please
[20:38] <SuperNoeMan> a keyboard that IS NOT wireless
[20:38] <Guest75359> maybe if I format the second HD and mout it in /Data through fstab ?
[20:38] <koumi> I have to make a bitmap editor in C for 256 -bit Can any one help me?
[20:38] <SuperNoeMan> and use the bluetooth dongle that I have
[20:38] <Guest75359> may this work?
[20:39] <urlin2u> jargon, lol
[20:39] <Guest75359> mount* sorry
[20:39] <SuperNoeMan> and make the bluetooth dongle broadcast as if it were a bluetooth keyboard. then anything that I type into the usb keyboard
[20:39] <SuperNoeMan> would get broadcast as if it were bluetooth
[20:39] <guntbert> koumi: not here, this is no programmer's channel
[20:39] <nathanel> hollaa!
[20:39] <SuperNoeMan> is this possible?
[20:39] <koumi> do you know one/
[20:39] <alkafoo> Guest75359: what you original said is fine, / for one, /home/ for the other
[20:39] <nathanel> question: which is better? apt-get or aptitude
[20:39] <alkafoo> originally* said
[20:40] <alkafoo> nathanel: they have different uses
[20:40] <guntbert> koumi: try ##c
[20:40] <Guest75359> alkafoo: even tho I will have one bloated HD and an empty one?
[20:40] <alkafoo> if you want something that doesn't try to be smarter than you, that's apt-get
[20:40] <nathanel> reformulation: which is more absolute in package management
[20:40] <alkafoo> Guest75359: you won't, you'll use the empty space in one for backups
[20:40] <Guest75359> alkafoo: cause I will install games on .wine
[20:40] <alkafoo> nathanel: what?
[20:41] <Cenobit>  Amanda_21
[20:41] <jargon> THEY ARE GIVING IMPROBABILITY ENGINE PRAYER. IN THE NAME OF GOD. HELEN GET ON MY HORSE. IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE AND ALL THE OTHER PLACES TOO. I LOVE YOU. DID YOU EXPECT US?
[20:41] <nathanel> better management, less breakage, more absolute
[20:41] <alkafoo> Guest75359: any free space on the first disk you will still be able to use, it won't be wasted
[20:41] <TheCowboy> any ops? natali = spambot
[20:41] <jargon> ZED IS GOING TO OBLITERATE.
[20:41] <th0r> !op
[20:41] <jpds> jargon: Please stop that.
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[20:41] <alkafoo> nathanel: I'd say apt-get is less likely to do something automagical that you didn't intend it to do
[20:41] <Polah> nathanel: Neither. Aptitude and apt-get are both frontends for apts with are frontends for dpkg I believe. They do the same thing with the same repositories.
[20:41] <nathanel> ok
[20:42] <Rajsun> nathaniel: I'm an aptitude fan for tasks small and big but to each his own.
[20:42] <nathanel> oki doki :)
[20:42] <nathanel> thx for clarifying
[20:42] <alkafoo> I like aptitutde for installing things initially
[20:42] <Guest75359> alkafoo: let's say I have 100gb of music, I put it in the first HD which will have loads of free space and then soft link it to my /home/*/Music ?
[20:42] <alkafoo> but not for maintenance stuff, it tries to be too smart
[20:42] <alkafoo> Guest75359: yup, easy
[20:42] <TheCowboy> rww, you forgot to ban natali
[20:42] <nathanel> it overrides too much?
[20:43] <alkafoo> nathanel: it tries to be smart, which is good sometimes and bad other times
[20:43] <nathanel> mhm
[20:43] <Guest75359> alkafoo: ok then, gonna leave 60gb to the / and the rest I will create as an ext4 without mount point, does it sound proper?
[20:43] <alkafoo> if you take the time to educate yourself about it it shouldn't matter though
[20:43] <Polah> Guest75359: No need to symlink it. You could just tell your programs to look for your actual music directory on the other drive rather than through a symlink.
[20:43] <nathanel> alkafoo: because i have a little intriguing bash bug that seems to be related to apt-get execution fr initial install of packages after format
[20:43] <alkafoo> Guest75359: there's no need to do that, you can use the unused space if you give the entire drive to /
[20:44] <alkafoo> Guest75359: no need to limit yourself like that
[20:44] <Polah> nathanel, what bug?
[20:44] <alkafoo> nathanel: neat
[20:44] <nathanel> if i run the "add" script manually it runs fine...
[20:44] <alkafoo> Guest75359: oh, you should make a partition for swap, too, though
[20:44] <alkafoo> Guest75359: know how much memory you have?
[20:44] <Guest75359> alkafoo: yes, I will
[20:44] <Guest75359> alkafoo: 4gb with 3gb usable
[20:45] <nathanel> alkafoo: if i call on the master config script containing "add" and others.. it gives me somekind of dbus error
[20:45] <alkafoo> Guest75359: 3gb usable?
[20:45] <rww> TheCowboy: thanks for the report
[20:45] <Guest75359> alkafoo: because I am on a dv7 with shared VGA
[20:45] <alkafoo> ah
[20:45] <nathanel> and it only occurs for add and remove which use apt-get --force-yes -y install BLABLABLA
[20:45] <TheCowboy> ty
[20:45] <bfreis> If I install Oneiric Oncelot beta 2 today, and simply keep it upgrading automatically, is it equivalent to install the final release?
[20:45] <alkafoo> Guest75359: so, [disk1: 3-4GB swap, the rest for / ] & [disk2: all for /home/ ] should work out fine
[20:46] <rww> bfreis: yes
[20:46] <nathanel> bfreis: yes sir
[20:46] <a4> bfreis just be aware that 11.10 does not have a gnome classic option... your stuck with either unity or gnome-shell (like unity)
[20:46] <nathanel> bfreis: though it doesnt guarantee a clean install's no-bug policy
[20:47] <Guest75359> alkafoo: just a little last thing: on Ubuntu, only Wine will install things under /home/, let's say a game, right?
[20:47] <bfreis> ok, thanks!
[20:47] <bfreis> about Gnome Classic...
[20:47] <Polah> nathanel: Why are you using -y and --force-yes?
[20:47] <urlin2u> a4, by some freak accident mine does and a no effects classic as wel with the latest updates.
[20:47] <rww> bfreis: in 11.04 or 11.10?
[20:47] <urlin2u> rww, 11.10
[20:47] <untermensch> can anyone explain to me, why my sound works with movie player, but not amarok or banshee?
[20:47] <alkafoo> Guest75359: by default yes, but I'd be quite surprised if you can't configure that
[20:48] <nathanel> bc it doesnt seem to want to consider -y as a valid flag (it's an unasttended config)
[20:48] <urlin2u> rww, sorry you wern't addressing me.
[20:48] <rww> urlin2u: indeed
[20:48] <nathanel> unattended*
[20:48] <a4> please share your freak accident with me then urlin2u.. im stuck with gnome shell and i hate it... I dont have any panels, i cant minimize programs without them hiding in their activity menu
[20:48] <Guest75359> alkafoo: hehe... yes, dont wanna change default things...
[20:48] <alkafoo> Guest75359: yes, if you run 'winecfg', there's a tab for 'drives'
[20:48] <rww> oh well
[20:48] <rww> !notunity-#ubuntu+1 | bfreis, urlin2u, a4
[20:48] <alkafoo> Guest75359: and even if there weren't, you could probably trick it with symlinks
[20:49] <bfreis> I'm actually using it on Natty, but it's far from the default configuration: I have a bunch of custom keyboard shortcuts, I use Gnome-Do, Avant Window Navigator, and other things, and have something I really enjoy working with
[20:49] <Guest75359> alkafoo: yeah... let's leave like that...
[20:49] <Guest75359> alkafoo: thanks man for the time!
[20:49] <alkafoo> ok
[20:49] <nathanel> alkafoo: any idea?
[20:49] <alkafoo> 500GB will still take you quite a long time to use up
[20:49] <bfreis> Is it possible to do similar customizations on Gnome Shell or Unity?
[20:49] <nathanel> alkafoo: all the rest is pretty champ on execution, nice and clean :)
[20:49] <alkafoo> nathanel: no sorry, but dbus isn't much to do with apt-get AFAIK, so it's probably not that directly related to apt-get itself
[20:49] <bfreis> (actually, I really dislike Unity... I tried it once I upgraded to 11.04, but rushed to my customized Gnome 2)
[20:50] <Guest75359> bfreis: I actually am starting to like it a lot...
[20:50] <a4> rww I have gnome-shell, gnome-session-fallback, and gnome-panel installed and I still cant get a gnome 2 like environment
[20:51] <sly> Xfceeeeeeeeeeeeee is the way forward. Sorry, random stuff just gets splurted out.
[20:51] <bfreis> Guest75359, the problem is that I don't want to get used to a completely different user interface, which focus on tablet and other touch devices. I simply love my keyboard-friendly customized Gnome 2
[20:51] <Guest75359> bfreis: I got you, you're right
[20:52] <a4> id be happy with gnome shell if it would just give me a bottom panel to minimize programs to and to add panel apps to
[20:52] <a4> its stupid to either have to alt tab or open a menu to bring programs back up.. right now i have to keep every thing unmaximized so i can click back and forth
[20:53] <nathanel> alkafoo: care to sample?  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10728225/oneiric.tar.gz
[20:53] <astartoth> hi all, how can I make urxvt's color exactly like gnome-terminal's?
[20:53] <alkafoo> a4: can't you just add another panel?
[20:53] <alkafoo> astartoth: change it in ~/.Xdefaults, then run xrdb ~/.Xdefaults
[20:53] <bfreis> Oh, another question: I remember problems when installing 11.04 (or was it 10.10?) with my graphics card on my laptop (Dell Latitude E6510). It worked fine on the live cd, but after the installation, the screen wouldn't work. I don't remember what I did (maybe I changed drivers through the console?)
[20:54] <a4> how do i add a panel in gnome3 alkafoo? right clicking on the top panel does nothing there is no visible option to add a panel
[20:54] <bfreis> Has it been solved for Oneiric?
[20:54] <alkafoo> urxvt.background:black, etc.
[20:54] <alkafoo> a4: there must be a way
[20:54] <a4> show me the way alkafoo
[20:54] <astartoth> alkafoo: exactly. But I can't seem to find the correct color code and pass it to ~/.Xdefaults as 'URxvt*background: rgba:xxxx/xxxx/xxxx/xxxx
[20:55] <Guest75359> alkafoo: haha, last! I promise... can I extend a partition once I just put all my backup in the proper place? Because now I got 2 partitions on my main HD, a windows one and a backup one, so I will erase the windows NTFS one and set as /, then place the backup around, so then I can extend it later on, right?
[20:55] <george_> Ok, because of this bu https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/760131 I've installed the proposed kernal with https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/pre-proposed/+packages but now my laptop runs hotter (+ 60º C) than before. How can I revert it to the defult 2.6.38-11?
[20:56] <glebihan> a4, you can't add panels in gnome3
[20:56] <cccangel> hey i got a problem with plugging in my headset.  it works when i restart the computer but how do i make the headset work WITHOUT restarting my machine?
[20:56] <CounterPillow> How can I make ubuntu send interesting offers about viagra per e-mail to a list of e-mail addresses? Is there a package for that?
[20:57] <a4> linux mint said their 11.10 equivalent version is going to have a gnome3 "traditional" environment without gnome-shell or unity... how are they going to do it? glebihan?
[20:57] <a4> take a walk CounterPillow
[20:57] <urlin2u>  CounterPillow you want us to help you spam.
[20:57] <alkafoo> Guest75359: you can but I wouldn't bother
[20:58] <alkafoo> Guest75359: having swap and one big partition taking up the rest will be simpler
[20:58] <trism> a4: gnome3 fallback mode uses gnome-panel, so it is pretty similar to gnome 2
[20:58] <alkafoo> astartoth: if you really can't find it, just take a screenshot and sample it
[20:58] <CounterPillow> I am the king of nigeria, I'll transfer some of my bajillions of dollars to your bank account if you help me.
[20:58] <a4> how do i use gnome3 fallback mode then trism?
[20:58] <alkafoo> CounterPillow: done
[20:58] <vlt> Hello. What do I need to do to make bash-completion work again after having started over with a clean home dir?
[20:58] <trism> a4: install gnome-panel in oneiric (which is supported in #ubuntu+1)
[20:58] <CounterPillow> I'm just trolling, don't worry :/
[20:58] <rww> vlt: copy the files in /etc/skel/ to your home directory
[20:58] <Guest75359> alkafoo: yeah... cause this partition is a shrink for the another one, gonna leave that for testing purposes! Done. man, thank you! Gonna install the system.
[20:59] <vlt> rww: Tanks.
[20:59] <Guest75359> bye guys
[20:59] <Guest75359> farewell
[20:59] <vlt> THanks*
[20:59] <Guest75359> thanks
[20:59] <urlin2u> CounterPillow, you in sweden and we know your IP
[20:59] <CounterPillow> urlin2u: I'm not in sweden
[20:59] <a4> gnome panel was already installed trism...
[20:59] <trism> a4: then select it when you login (gnome classic)
[21:00] <trism> a4: unless you didn't install the recommends, then you will need gnome-session-fallback too
[21:00] <urlin2u> switzerland CounterPillow
[21:00] <CounterPillow> urlin2u: by any chance, are you us-american?
[21:00] <cccangel> guys, how do you get a Logitech Headset to be useable in Ubuntu 11.04? Ubuntu recognizes it but it wont let me use it.
[21:00] <urlin2u> CounterPillow, no I,m a nigerian.
[21:00] <CounterPillow> urlin2u: Well, that is awkward
[21:00] <notlistening> cccangel, bluetooth?
[21:00] <alkafoo> cccangel: is it bluetooth?
[21:01] <cccangel> its not bluetooth
[21:01] <cccangel> its corded
[21:01] <notlistening> cccangel, usb then?
[21:01] <alkafoo> make sure it's not muted in alsamixer
[21:02] <cccangel> yes, usb logitech headset.  it shows up in Sound Preferences -> Hardware but it wont let me select it for Input / Output
[21:02] <cccangel> alkafoo, how do i check that?
[21:02] <nathanel> is there any way to stop the stupid color blending on unity 11.10??
[21:02] <notlistening> when you see it in hardware what does it have as the desctiption?
[21:03] <nathanel> ME WANT GREY!
[21:03] <george_> Please help me...
[21:03] <cccangel> notlistening, what would be considered its description?
[21:03] <cccangel> it looks like this
[21:03] <alkafoo> cccangel: run 'alsamixer' in a terminal, look for muted channels, channels with really low volume, or anything related to line/capture/mic/output/input
[21:03] <alkafoo> cccangel: hit TAB if you run out
[21:03] <nathanel> george: what is the issue
[21:05] <notlistening> Mine = 1 Internal Audio, 1 input, 1 x Analogue Stereo Input
[21:06] <cccangel> alkafoo, where would the usb headset show up in alsamixer (first time using it)
[21:06] <george_> nathanel: Because of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/760131 I've installed the proposed kernal with https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/pre-proposed/+packages but now my laptop runs hotter (+ 60º C) than before. How can I revert it to the defult 2.6.38-11?
[21:07] <notlistening> cccangel, try this aplay -l
[21:07] <nathanel> if you have access to synaptic look for the recently installed package and remove it, the other kernel (old one is normally still present) after removal, run sudo update-grub && sudo reboot
[21:07] <notlistening> then post the output in pastebin
[21:08] <nathanel> george: if you have access to synaptic look for the recently installed package and remove it, the other kernel (old one is normally still present) after removal, run sudo update-grub && sudo reboot
[21:08] <cccangel> notlistening, ya just ran that.
[21:08] <dirtycookie> hi a few days ago i installed the package ubuntu-restricted-modules, which as a result took a lot of harddisk space. how can i remove all the other packages that came with it but get removed upon the uninstallation
[21:08] <craigbass1976> So, my kids are about to fight about whose turn it is on the computer.  I'm more concerned with catching the older one lying than whose turn it is.  Can I vnc into his display, or just see what's on his browser?  Is it possible for an instance of an app to be on two displays at once if I do something like ssh -X ?
[21:08] <Bizzeh> are there any decent tutorials for configuring bind, spessifically in ubuntu?
[21:08] <kermit> craigbass1976: ssh -X no, vnc yes
[21:09] <craigbass1976> Bizzeh, there are.  I set one up recently and can poke through my command history if you want.
[21:09] <alkafoo> cccangel: sorry, is the audio meant to come in over USB, too?
[21:09] <notlistening> are you worried about what he is lookin at craigbass1976?
[21:09] <craigbass1976> kermit, how can I do it now that everything is already running?
[21:09] <alkafoo> craigbass1976: lying about... whose turn it is?
[21:09] <cccangel> alkafoo, yes.  its a mic and headphone headset.
[21:10] <craigbass1976> notlistening, no, I'm concerned with him saying he didn't die when in fact he did and it's now the younger kid's turn
[21:10] <alkafoo> cccangel: with only a USB port input
[21:10] <alkafoo> craigbass1976: oh in a game? =P
[21:10] <cccangel> alkafoo, this is usually corrected with a reboot if i leave the headset plugged in during the whole process
[21:10] <th0r> craigbass1976: you could use ffmpeg to record the desktop
[21:11] <alkafoo> cccangel: hrmmm, that's odd
[21:11] <craigbass1976> kermit, nothingspecial alkafoo: although, I've often wanted to be able to do this to see what my wife means by "this won't work" when she's here and I'm not
[21:11] <cccangel> alkafoo, so something tells me some sort of "reset" on the audio in ubuntu would get it working
[21:11] <notlistening> vnc is the best solution
[21:11] <alkafoo> craigbass1976: well for your wife yeah, just start the VNC server, it comes with Ubuntu by default
[21:11] <alkafoo> craigbass1976: I'm still not sure what you're talking about that your kids are doing
[21:11] <notlistening> my gf does it all the time, i login fix and she rants some more about how easy i make it look
[21:12] <alkafoo> craigbass1976: what OS are you using when you're not here?
[21:12] <craigbass1976> alkafoo, but I've got to be the user whose desktop I want to see in order to fire it up properly?
[21:12] <craigbass1976> alkafoo, it's all linux
[21:12] <alkafoo> notlistening: "you know it baby"
[21:12] <alkafoo> craigbass1976: yes, but it's just a check box and then they read an IP to you over the phone
[21:12] <alkafoo> craigbass1976: though if you really want to, I'm sure you could get it to work by just having a shortcut on the desktop/etc.
[21:12] <alkafoo> or you could even leave it on 24/7 if you think the box is secure enough
[21:13] <alkafoo> craigbass1976: you can ask it to ask people trying to remote in to provide a password, so it can be fairly secure on its own
[21:13] <cccangel> alkafoo or notlistening, any idea on how to get my headset useable in ubuntu without rebooting the whole machine each time i want to use it?
[21:13] <alkafoo> it's like, ssh is realy secure, but not even having ssh running is _really_ secure =P
[21:14] <alkafoo> cccangel: if rebooting fixes it, then...
[21:14] <alkafoo> cccangel: you're probably losing a service or something to do with udev
[21:14] <notlistening> cccangel, when i plugin my usb camera to get the mic working i have to select is an a input in sound properties before it works
[21:14] <alkafoo> rebooting is the mean/tedious/silly way of restarting services
[21:15] <cccangel> yeah what service would a usb input/output headset be under?
[21:16] <alkafoo> I can only imagine it has something to do with audio (pulse, alsa, etc.) or udev (devices)
[21:16] <cccangel> well it shows up when i type "aplay -l"
[21:17] <craigbass1976> kermit, nothingspecial alkafoo: Awesome, I got it.  Now they've moved onto the wii though, and are cooperating.  Star Wars will do that to you I guess...
[21:17] <cccangel> and it shows up in sound preferences under the hardware tab.
[21:17] <alkafoo> cccangel: when it's working or when it isn't?
[21:17] <cccangel> its not working atm
[21:17] <alkafoo> ha, gaming consoloe redundancy
[21:18] <cccangel> alkafoo, its not working atm and when i "Test Speakers" it crashes the "Sound Preferences" dialog
[21:18] <alkafoo> maybe your audio stack has become not sane
[21:18] <notlistening> Fighting over computer games = banned for life (i'd make a harsh dad)
[21:18] <alkafoo> maybe you should just remove pulse =) or maybe you don't have pulse and you should add it
[21:19] <alkafoo> we didn't do turns in my house
[21:19] <alkafoo> first come first serve
[21:19] <alkafoo> works out the same way, just longer sessions
[21:19] <cccangel> alkafoo, how do i check to see if i have pulse?
[21:19] <alkafoo> cccangel: you should I'm pretty sure it's still default in Ubuntu
[21:20] <alkafoo> it causes some people problems, particularly with certain hardware
[21:20] <notlistening> cccangel, run sudo servie pulseaudio restart
[21:20] <alkafoo> and is pretty unnecessary
[21:20] <alkafoo> for most people
[21:20] <notlistening> and see if it works
[21:21] <dirtycookie> i wanted to know where does the ubuntu software center store it's records
[21:21] <cccangel> notlistening - no
[21:21] <cccangel> hmm im going to try this later... brb
[21:21] <urlin2u> dirtycookie, why?
[21:22] <dirtycookie> urlin2u: i need to uninstall a bunch of packages in oder to save up space that i have installed before
[21:22] <urlin2u> dirtycookie, use synaptic or purge from the terminal.
[21:25] <mh> I need help updating my BIOS. I have a .exe file from fujitsu. Any ideas on what to do with this?
[21:26] <alkafoo> dirtycookie: store its records
[21:26] <alkafoo> dirtycookie: hopefully somewhere in /var/log/
[21:26] <Bizzeh> anyone know of any GOOD uk based dedicated hosting companies? all i want is a clean ubuntu box, nothing on it but a basic ubuntu install with ssh only. needs to be a reliable place to host too
[21:27] <alkafoo> mh: ummm, maybe create a DOS boot disc with it on there?  I forget how that works
[21:27] <alkafoo> mh: you might actually ask ##windows
[21:27] <mh> well, I see a .img inside the .exe
[21:27] <mh> so it could be a disk image right?
[21:27] <alkafoo> Bizzeh: why does it need to be UK based?
[21:28] <mh> I still don't know what to do with it
[21:28]  * alkafoo shrugs
[21:28] <notlistening> mh, you can download some msdos iso images a bootdisk.com and add in the exe on there
[21:28] <alkafoo> mh: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20update%20bios%20dos%20boot%20disk
[21:28] <mh> oh sorry, it is .ima, not .imc
[21:28] <alkafoo> mh: what's this BIOS update got that you think you want?
[21:28] <Bizzeh> alkafoo: because thats what im asking for
[21:29] <alkafoo> Bizzeh: that's not a reason, though =P
[21:29] <mh> fujitsu amilo PA 1510 1.07C
[21:30] <mh> I want to update because I have this smart disk failure all the time I boot and it is annoying, it does not affect me at all. I am tired after years of pressing F1 when I boot and I cannot disable SMART with this bios version
[21:30] <JLuc> heklo
[21:30] <JLuc> hello
[21:31] <remote1> wc
[21:31] <JLuc> having a problem with booting
[21:31] <f1> I tried logging into my normal account today and got three errors after clicking my user name. When ready I will produce those errors
[21:31] <JLuc> i was advised to edit the script lanuched by grub
[21:31] <alkafoo> mh: heh
[21:31] <JLuc> and add verbose and nosplash
[21:31] <vlt> !enter | JLuc
[21:31] <alkafoo> mh: might be more worth your time to just get a new computers, one that coreboot supports
[21:31] <Bizzeh> alkafoo: because all of my customers are in the uk, im in the uk, and my company is in the uk, i want the conveniance of the server and the hosting provider being in the uk
[21:31] <JLuc> how do i save  edited script after editing ?
[21:31] <alkafoo> JLuc: can we visit the problem first before we assume this person who advised you was right?
[21:32] <alkafoo> Bizzeh: ah =)
[21:32] <alkafoo> Bizzeh: but you don't care where in the UK?
[21:32] <mh> alkafoo: is that an answer???
[21:32] <alkafoo> Bizzeh: somewhere on great britain?
[21:32] <alkafoo> mh: ?
[21:32] <JLuc> well i installed ubuntu with dual boot with 7 after freeing space, everything went fine, i updated programms and installed some apps, ok, but when switching on
[21:32] <alkafoo> mh: I gave you a link for updating already
[21:32] <JLuc> OffbeatAdam, and then on, i could not boot anymore
[21:33] <alkafoo> really you got two answers
[21:33] <alkafoo> JLuc: but when what now?
[21:33] <Bizzeh> alkafoo: i have 4000 customers, about 3200 of which are just hosting 5 pages of html, a style sheet and some images.
[21:33] <JLuc> when switching off and on again, i couldnt boot on ubuntu
[21:34] <Bizzeh> alkafoo: the customers are randomly scattered across the uk, so im not really that bothered where in the uk as long as its in the uk
[21:34] <alkafoo> Bizzeh: northern ireland? =)
[21:34] <JLuc> now i got fgrub options, and when choosing ubuntu i got a pink screen with ubuntu in center and 5 points , it goes black, then pink again and nothing more
[21:34] <mh> alkafoo: oh yes thanks a lot :)
[21:34] <mh> i did not see the link
[21:34] <Bizzeh> alkafoo: i would rather mainland england, but i would consider NI though
[21:35] <JLuc> stays pink with ubuntu and the five points, nothing moves nor happens
[21:35] <alkafoo> JLuc: okay, so you can hit 'e' at the GRUB menu, and add ' text' to the end of the line with 'kernel' in it, then hit 'b' for boot, or
[21:36] <JLuc> yes
[21:36] <JLuc> no need to save ?
[21:36] <alkafoo> JLuc: you can boot up your Ubuntu live/install image and chroot into your broken install and fix it from there
[21:36] <alkafoo> JLuc: no it's all temporary there
[21:36] <urlin2u> JLuc, use the recovery boot from and failsafe in the next gui, scroll to it with the arrow keys, then if in look in addotional drivers
[21:36] <JLuc> i'm no linux pro
[21:36] <alkafoo> JLuc: if you reboot again you'll have to add it again; the idea is to fix it before rebooting
[21:36] <ionelmc> how do i get a list of packages i intalled manually?
[21:36] <ionelmc> *installed
[21:36] <sdz> I can't see any cups printers in chromium... thoughts?
[21:37] <JLuc> yes 2nd option is failsafe
[21:37] <f1_> Darn network, anyway the first error was "Could not update ICEauthority file home/<username>/.ICEauthority"
[21:37] <alkafoo> ionelmc: manually, or explicitly (not deps)?
[21:37] <urlin2u> ionelmc, dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[21:37] <urlin2u> thais all packages
[21:37] <urlin2u> that is
[21:37] <JLuc> failsafe proposes another menu - in french ! (my langage)
[21:38] <alkafoo> JLuc: the nerve!
[21:38] <vlt> ionelmc: Browse /var/log/aptitude or make a diff of urlin2u’s output to one of a fresh install.
[21:38] <JLuc> i can resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, fsck, grub
[21:38] <hacked_kernel> which configuration file is used to set a proxy server information?
[21:39] <JLuc> i dont get "the nerve" ?
[21:39] <alkafoo> JLuc: just a joke, no worries
[21:39] <JLuc> ok :-)
[21:39] <urlin2u> JLuc, none will break use failsafe
[21:40] <JLuc> ok it says it will be low res, ok for this time,
[21:40] <JLuc> then "no required hardware for unity"
[21:41] <JLuc> AMOF i had some display glitches with unity when it was going ok just after install
[21:41] <sammy> is the best practice to install a package (with a needed update) from oneiric to download the single package and install it, or to add the repository to apt, change its priority and pin the single package?
[21:41] <JLuc> Oh its running now !
[21:41] <urlin2u> JLuc, this will identify the graphics lspci | grep VGA
[21:42] <JLuc> lspci | grep VGA
[21:42] <JLuc> no not that keyboad
[21:42] <vlt> Hello. How can I select a country name by typing hte first letters in the keyboard layout settings?
[21:42] <JLuc> arf
[21:43] <Milez-> How do i know which release of nvidia drivers ubuntu's currently using?
[21:43] <JLuc> it says ATI Inc 760G Radeon 3000
[21:43] <JLuc> vga compatible
[21:43] <vlt> Milez-: Try "lspci -k"
[21:43] <urlin2u> JLuc, argh a radeon try the xswat ppa I think
[21:44] <JLuc> same with -k
[21:44] <sammy> Milez-: packages.ubuntu.com will show you current and past versions of packages for each ubuntu release
[21:44] <JLuc> its a cheap pc but much faster than good laptops
[21:45] <sammy> Milez-: and I believe the numbering scheme for ubuntu's nvidia packages follows along with their build numbers from nvidia.
[21:45] <JLuc> how do i xswat ppa ?
[21:45] <urlin2u> JLuc, hmm I found this. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201011-6698
[21:45] <ThonEney> i got a problem, since the last update a week or more ago after booting nothing shows on the screen, i'm almost sure it's the graphics drivers (latest from ati site hd6850 card)
[21:46] <urlin2u> JLuc, is that the computer?
[21:46] <JLuc> its a compaq SG3
[21:47] <ThonEney> can i uninstall my graphics drivers from the recovery console?
[21:47] <JLuc> SG3-130FR as far as i can see
[21:48] <JLuc> Compaq & HP
[21:49] <JLuc> is there an installed tool to display technical characteristics of the computer so as to compare with HP pro 3125 ?
[21:50] <urlin2u> JLuc, this is the PPA not sure really, but it has the fglrx installer for amd https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[21:51] <f1> Does anyone know about the /usr/lib/libconf-sanity-check-w exited with status 256" error? I tried to do everything that is posted on the forums and I still get three different errors when logging into my old account
[21:52] <JLuc> so i type the 2 lines with deb and deb-src
[21:53] <urlin2u> JLuc, add to sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  or read the how to add fropm the terminal you get the key that way it is best.
[21:53] <JLuc> well...
[21:54] <JLuc> will the next soon release be better with this ? cos i can wait 3 weeks...
[21:55] <urlin2u> JLuc, hard to say man read the ppa if you want to try that.
[21:56] <JLuc> i dont understand much of the context and perspective
[21:56] <JLuc> lets try these 2 lines...
[21:56] <urlin2u> JLuc, look at the read abput installing.
[21:56] <urlin2u> about
[21:57] <Milez-> can i boot off of the flash drive on my camera?
[21:57] <Gnea> Milez-: if your system supports it
[21:57] <urlin2u> JLuc, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-  use at your own risk as I'm not sure
[21:57] <Milez-> sweet.  my flash drives are all out on load
[21:58] <Milez-> loan
[21:58] <Gnea> Milez-: in that case, I'm gonna go with a 'no' :)
[21:58] <JLuc> theres something wrong with radeon ?
[21:58] <sven^> is there a way to exclude packages from update-manager?
[21:58] <urlin2u> JLuc, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates   sorry
[21:58] <lnx1> Hello! Does anyone know of a solution to a
[21:59] <lnx1> utomatically logging out an ubuntu user?
[21:59] <ThonEney> Can someone tell me how to uninstall the graphics driver without it loading?
[21:59] <Gnea> lnx1: this is a problem?
[21:59] <sammy> sven^: you want to put a package on 'hold'. if you only use apt-get and synaptic package manager (and update-manager), you can use synaptic package manager to place the package on hold. update-manager will still notify you when updates are available, but they will by default be unchecked for held packages.
[21:59] <cccangel> Hello.  I am working on figuring out how to get my usb logitech input/output headphones working in ubuntu without having to reboot my machine.  Any ideas?
[22:00] <urlin2u> JLuc, actually it would be this one.  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/ppa
[22:00] <sammy> sven^: I say 'if you only use' because there is a different procedure for putting packages on hold when using aptitude.
[22:00] <sven^> sammy: is there a way to do that on the command line? I read something about package pinnig but that sounded like a too big mess for one package
[22:00] <mikeypizano> is it still possible to upgrade 8.10 to 9.04?
[22:00] <JLuc> i try it
[22:00] <Gnea> cccangel: try plugging them in and selecting them from the alsamixer
[22:00] <lnx1> Gnea, i work in ano office where they have public computers, they need a solution to giving the public timed access to the pcs basically so they cannot hog the machines. does that make sense?...
[22:01] <Gentoo64> mikeypizano, why would you when its that old?
[22:01] <cccangel> Gnea i dont know how to use alsamixer.. how do i got about doing that?
[22:01] <Gnea> lnx1: yes, it does. one moment...
[22:01] <sammy> sven^: I think you're looking to edit dpkg-selections. you can use a command to 'get' the selections, dump them into a file, edit the package you wish to put on hold, then you can load the newly saved file into the dpkg-selections database. try googling that with any luck, Ive done it recently but Id have to google again to find specifics.
[22:01] <sven^> k, thanks sammy
[22:01] <mikeypizano> i get an error saying that it failed to extract the upgrade and there may be a problem with the network or the serve
[22:01] <JLuc> it imported one key but no ultimate key
[22:02] <JLuc> now i type the 2 lines with deb and deb-src ?
[22:02] <Gentoo64> mikeypizano, probably because its old
[22:02] <Gnea> cccangel: it's a terminal program, so you should start by opening a terminal (apps->accessories->terminal) and then typing:  cat /proc/asound/cards  see how many are listed after you plugged it in
[22:02] <mikeypizano> yes, but is there a repo i can add so i can do the upgrade?
[22:02] <Gentoo64> mikeypizano, no idea. why dont you use a newer one?
[22:02] <cccangel> Gnea, ok i got that.
[22:02] <sven^> sammy: http://fosswire.com/post/2008/08/exclude-packages-from-being-installed-and-upgraded-in-debianubuntu/ thanks ;). Should have googled right away ;)
[22:02] <cccangel> Gnea, i also went into alsamixer and turned up the volume on my headset...
[22:03] <mikeypizano> becuase this is the only cd i could get that wanted to boot on this old computer
[22:03] <cccangel> Gnea, however sound preferences wont allow me to select it as an input nor output device for audio
[22:03] <JLuc> but deb command is not found urlin2u
[22:04] <Gnea> cccangel: oh good, you found that.  you'll need to make sure you have the pulseaudio device chooser installed and running so you can choose it to output to
[22:04] <JLuc> ubuntu is sure not for Oma
[22:05] <cccangel> Gnea, i take its not installed by default?
[22:05] <Gnea> cccangel: correct
[22:05] <cccangel> Gnea, whats its package name?
[22:06] <lnx1> Gnea, thanks! by the way, i know there are some scripts that can be run, but i cannot get them to work, its got to the stage where the company are will to pay for a product, if there is one of course...
[22:06] <alternut> anyone know some good gps mapping packages for ubuntu?
[22:06] <Gnea> cccangel: actually, it may not be necessary - left-click on your sound icon at the top, then go to 'sound preferences', see if you can select it there first....
[22:06] <KNUBBIG> Hey guys, I got a technician who installed a webcam which saves data via FTP/Samba on my server's external drive. He said it would be better for the FS to be NTFS/FAT. Is there any reason for that? FTP/Samba hides the FS, doesn't it? Thanks!
[22:07] <cccangel> Gnea, yeah thats whats iffy. it shows up in the hardware tab but it wont let me select it in the input nor output tab.  And my only fix i found is to reboot my machine... so... something is faulty (somewhere)
[22:07] <SIFTU> KNUBBIG: yep, doesnt matter about the filesystem
[22:07] <bassliner> KNUBBIG: go slap your technician with a chainsaw.
[22:07] <KNUBBIG> thanks!
[22:08] <Gnea> cccangel: perhaps pulse just needs to be restarted after it's plugged in? that is strange...
[22:09] <cccangel> Gnea, ya someone already had me try "sudo service pulseaudio restart" but it didnt work.
[22:09] <bassliner> KNUBBIG: when using an external hard drive with ntfs under linux, you'll probably use fuse, which will have massive impact on performance. if you can avoid that, do it. from your description, i was not able to mentally construct your scenario though.
[22:09] <cccangel> Gnea, unless there is another service that needs a restart.
[22:10] <KNUBBIG> bassliner: where did I miss out something that would help you?
[22:10] <bassliner> KNUBBIG: so you have a server attached to your lan, where you want to store images that your workstation that has a camera attached to it, and the workstation transfers data to the server via smb or ftp?
[22:10] <Gnea> lnx1: this tends to be an okay reference: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/technology/981157/
[22:11] <bassliner> KNUBBIG: like, there is no fat/ntfs on the workstation?
[22:11] <KNUBBIG> bassliner: no, it's a cam independant of any computer. It just works as an addressable webcam attached to LAN
[22:11] <Gnea> cccangel: well, there is that (the system-wide service) and then there's the user-level service (the one that's started everytime you login from the GUI)
[22:11] <Gnea> cccangel: have you tried just logging out then logging back in?
[22:11] <bassliner> KNUBBIG: ah fine. so if your server is running linux, then using ntfs/fat is b*llsh*t.
[22:12] <cccangel> Gnea, lemme check that
[22:12] <Gnea> cccangel: k
[22:12] <KNUBBIG> bassliner: thanks, that's what I thought. Sorry for the bad explanation :)
[22:12] <bassliner> KNUBBIG: you're welcome. :)
[22:13] <cccangel> Gnea, nope
[22:13] <urlin2u> JLuc, deb command?
[22:13] <JLuc> in the terminal, deb
[22:13] <JLuc> as shown on the page
[22:14] <cccangel> Gnea, i guess this would create a bug report :/
[22:14] <urlin2u> JLuc, you don't run them in the terminal just add the PPA and run a update/upgrade
[22:14] <JLuc> ah
[22:14] <galaxyforest> hello?
[22:14] <JLuc> i've typed your command
[22:14] <cccangel> Gnea, except im not knowledgable as to what would be causing the problem
[22:15] <urlin2u> JLuc, I know it is confusing at first you will get it. :D
[22:15] <JLuc> so i've added the ppa i think
[22:15] <JLuc> and now how do i update / upgrade ?
[22:15] <toman> hello, I really need some help. I have an aiptek 14000u tablet and i just changed my ubuntu version to 11.04. On 10.10 i had to configure the tablet driver, but here it is just plug and play. The problem is that no Wine app detects the pressure sensitivity. Can someone help ?
[22:15] <galaxyforest> anyone can help me setting up the brightness on a samsung rv411?
[22:15] <lnx1> Gnea, thanks! am reading up now...
[22:16] <JLuc> i'm about to restart without unity so as to try
[22:16] <urlin2u> JLuc, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and see if anything is added, and a logout and in may be needed or reboot to get alll in place.
[22:16] <JLuc> ok
[22:16] <galaxyforest> anyone can help me setting up the brightness on a samsung rv411?
[22:17] <antibody> hi how can I re-install all installed packages»
[22:18] <urlin2u> antibody, same computer?
[22:18] <Walex2> antibody: why would you need that? Can't you just check the checksums?
[22:18] <JamesT_> Hi, I mentioned this in the ubuntu server channel as well but hopefully someone here can help. I am having trouble connecting my ubuntu server machine to my university campus wifi. The details we are given about the network are here: http://www.ucc.ie/en/sit/network/wireless/tech/ This is my wpa_supplicant.conf http://pastebin.com/WnrpP3j5 It seems to be connecting (according to iwconfig). But dhclient doesnt work.
[22:19] <JLuc> so its downloading the ppa urlin2u
[22:19] <antibody> yes urlin2u
[22:19] <urlin2u> JLuc, cool hope this gets you what is needed.
[22:19] <wangerin> Hi. There seems to be problems with the dk.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) - and there has been for some time now. Where to report a problem?
[22:19] <antibody> Walex2: how can I make the checksums being checked for all pkgs and the wrong ones get re-installed then?
[22:20] <GunClive> hi. do usb sticks that are automatically mounted when inserting under ubuntu need a clean umount when removing them? thanks.
[22:20] <urlin2u> antibody, check the post right after mine from Walex2
[22:20] <Wiz_KeeD> hey everyone
[22:20] <antibody> I know but how can I check everything automatically?
[22:20] <Walex2> antibody: a bit of work unfortunately. But nearly all packages should be fine. You'll get a list of failed checksums
[22:21] <urlin2u> GunClive, best to yes right click and safely remove drive
[22:21] <antibody> how?
[22:21] <Walex2> antibody: look at 'man debsums' and you can get a list of packages installed in '/var/lib/dpkg/info'
[22:21] <E3D3> Synaptics says that I have to do:   dpkg --configure -a   but that process repeats itself endlessly. What should I do ?
[22:21] <antibody> ty
[22:22] <Walex2> antibody: silly me, you can just do 'debsums -c -a'
[22:22] <antibody> tyvm
[22:22] <galaxyforest> anyone can help me setting up the brightness to the function keys in a samsung rv411 (they're actually set up but the brightness doesn't change)
[22:23] <Walex2> antibody: also note the example "Reinstalls packages with changed files." in 'man debsums'
[22:23] <bx-gh> If all mb don't implement an option to disable uefi, what you kernel devs do?
[22:24] <Walex2> galaxyforest: that may be impossible if the laptop-specific way to change brightness does not work.
[22:24] <urlin2u> galaxyforest, you using a monitor with that lappy
[22:24] <Walex2> galaxyforest: however to start you should bind the keybodes for those function keys to bind to the keysyms for brightness up and down.
[22:24] <Gnea> cccangel: pulseaudio-utils or pulseaudio-module-gconf
[22:24] <Walex2> galaxyforest: there are probably lots of examples on the web for similar laptops.
[22:25] <galaxyforest> aw
[22:25] <galaxyforest> thanks!
[22:27] <arooni-mobile> hi folks;  i just bought a mobile broadband wireless card.  it give me an ip address of x.x.x.x;  i'd like to make it so i can access my web app via http://ip-address-of-moile-wifi-card:80  ; or http://ip-address-of-moile-wifi-card:3000 ... i'm running ubuntu linux 11.04; is this possible?
[22:28] <cccangel> Gnea, i just filled out a bug report.  Can't come to any ideas at the moment to fix it.
[22:28] <cccangel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/859249
[22:30] <lnx1> Gnea, read that link you sent, kind of helps but not a solution for me, i'll keep looking and posting, thanks anyway for your time, appriciated!
[22:31] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to track how much internet usage my mobile wifi card has gone through?
[22:32] <Walex2> galaxyforest: http://what-ho.posterous.com/linux-hotkey-support-on-samsung-laptops
[22:33] <urlin2u> arooni-mobile, I doubt it it would ahve to have a memry of it.
[22:33] <urlin2u> have
[22:34] <qrq> I use 8.04 Server and I got some theme issue
[22:34] <qrq> I need to change theme everytime I launch some app
[22:34] <qrq> Then it would apply to app
[22:35] <qrq> Anyone knows how to fix that?
[22:36] <alkafoo> qrq: stop using a GUI with a server?
[22:37] <qrq> alkafoo ...
[22:37] <ThonEney> how do i remove the ati drivers from the recovery console or the like?
[22:38] <RocketLauncher> i am on wifi and i need to do internet sharing through ethernet into my imac g3 so i can install linux on it.. i went into auto eth0 and ipv4 settings and selected SHARE TO COMPUTERS and restarted it but it didnt work at all
[22:39] <RocketLauncher> Internet sharing works on Windows 7 so it's not the mac or the cable that's having problems
[22:40] <bx-gh> If all mb don't implement an option to disable uefi, what you kernel devs do?
[22:40] <bx-gh> Red Hat developer Matthew Garrett stated that Windows 8 it will impact generic linux kernel, what does all this mean for laptops, desktops and so on
[22:41] <urlin2u> bx-gh, you can disable the uefi says MS.
[22:42] <rww> !ot | bx-gh
[22:42] <og01> Hi im about to setup a raid array and mount it in a non-standard location. I want it to get remounted on boot - how do i manage the setup of the array on boot?
[22:43] <tomodachi> og01: doesent mdadm assemble it for you automatically?
[22:43] <og01> im not sure is there a init script that does it on boot?
[22:44] <og01> In the (far distant) past (not on ubuntu) i wrote my own startup script
[22:44] <tomodachi> og01: do you need it on boot? or is after boot ok?
[22:44] <og01> after is fine
[22:44] <antibody> hey (again) so my /home was full for a moment gtk apps crashed..and now everything segfaults... which hidden dir should I rm to check if that was the reason? tnx
[22:44] <GunClive> got a mount problem. this does not work: sudo mount -t ext3 -o rw sync /dev/sdc1 /media/0 why? thanks
[22:45] <boltR> anyone know a package for displaying sys uptime on the web?
[22:45] <og01> tomodachi: perhaps before fstab get read?
[22:45] <tomodachi> well if you have a configuration file for mdadm, it will assemble the array for you automatically. Then having it in fstab, it will mount
[22:45] <tomodachi> og01: i havent used mdadm for a while. Just do raid with servers. And then i prefer hardware raid.
[22:45] <drapedup> boltR: why not just call on the "uptime" command?
[22:45] <kisuke> ok can ubiquity be run from a wubi install?
[22:45] <jack^_> GunClive, do you get an error?
[22:46] <boltR> drapedup, how would i output that through php?
[22:46] <tomodachi> og01: i believe mdadm will be called automagically before fstab
[22:46] <og01> tomodachi: heh not in my budget :)
[22:46] <og01> tomodachi: ok cool
[22:46] <syn-ack> I don't see why not, kisuke. Then again I don't know much about wubi.
[22:46] <tomodachi> og01: yeah  same for me I guess if i would ever want it on something wich is mine. Make sure to enable mailing so you get status updates on how your array is doing.
[22:46] <jack^_> you can get a hardware raid controller for $100. there is no need for mdadm
[22:46] <drapedup> boltR: i'm not sure the best way to do it, but you could run a script that pipes the output of "uptime" to a txt file and have php call on that
[22:46] <drapedup> boltR: i'm sure there's a more elegant way to do it, but i'm really rusty
[22:47] <tomodachi> jack^_: hardware controllers are often , if not bundled with a "real" server not reliable. When they brake, your raid is gone. With sw raid there is no hardware dependency
[22:47] <og01> tomodachi: i'll give it a shot - box is in use atm so i didnt really want to test with a reboot
[22:47] <GunClive> jack_, no. mount just prints out a standard text for correct usage
[22:47] <og01> tomodachi: reading the manpage you look spot on though
[22:47] <boltR> drapedup, hmm i'll see if there's a way to use php to call on uptime
[22:47] <kisuke> syn-ack: i jsut want to double check, cant make a CD atm and this compy's old wnought that USB is not an option
[22:47] <drapedup> boltR: there should be a simple way to do it. I'm sure someone's written a simple php script to do it too
[22:48] <tomodachi> og01: happy I could be of help. Just verify that it works. Last time i used sw raid in linux it failed me....
[22:48] <jack^_> GunClive, try removing the space between rw and sync. use a comma
[22:48] <drapedup> boltR: I just googled "php uptime script" and got some results...
[22:48] <mattalexx> Is there a command like ssh-copy-id that will install a public key on the local computer but not add it twice (like >> would)?
[22:48] <tomodachi> mattalexx: whats wrong with ssh-copy-id ?
[22:49] <jack^_> og01, tomodachi, i missed the begining of the conversation, but you can add a command at boot time to assemble software raid if it's failing to do it automaitcally. something like `mdadm -Ac partitions -m 0 /dev/md0`
[22:49] <mattalexx> That's for copying the local pubkey to a remote machine. I want to copy the pubkey of another machine (in string form) to the local machine.
[22:49] <GunClive> jack_, i had a space at the end of the line that confused mount. lucky that i noticed..
[22:49] <tomodachi> jack^_: just for my own interest not that I use mdadm ,but knowledge is always nice. where would you enter it? the grub console?
[22:49] <mattalexx> tomodachi, ^
[22:50] <jack_> sorry wrong jack guys
[22:50] <glebihan> boltR, you can use the php functions "system" or "exec" to make a system call and get its output
[22:50] <jack_> this is Jack87 testing ubuntu chroot on touchpad
[22:50] <GunClive> jack^_, i had a space at the end of the line that confused mount. lucky that i noticed..
[22:50] <jack^_> tomodachi, it would only have to bee in grub console if you were booting from it. if its mounted after the fact you could put the command in rc.local
[22:51] <tomodachi> glebihan: boltR  sounds a bit "unsecure" though. I would just make a bash script. that adds the uptime every 1 day to a file. Wich then php "reads"
[22:51] <jack^_> tomodachi, im not sure if there is a way to do that. it shoudl be called by the ramdisk
[22:51] <tomodachi> jack^_: ok thanks for the intel.
[22:51] <glebihan> tomodachi, that's not unsecure at all
[22:51] <og01> jack^_: thanks jack^_
[22:52] <boltR> tomodachi, glebihan i'm wondering if there are native php functions that might serve a similar purpose
[22:52] <tomodachi> glebihan: if you say so :)  but my solution can hardly be "less" secure!
[22:52] <glebihan> boltR, system and exec are native php functions
[22:52] <sammy> the directions on the ubuntu wiki for building a package from source from a newer distribution version (to avoid libc6 problems) leads me to an error saying it cant find the source package for said file. I've added oneiric's deb-src line and updated my package cache. nothing saying 'oneiric' shows up in the output of 'apt-cache policy' if thats significant
[22:52] <glebihan> tomodachi, about the same as mine actually
[22:52] <boltR> glebihan, oh i meant for retrieving uptime directly
[22:52] <jack^_> i've haerd they're insecure. if somebody gains accesses to those commands through your public facing page they get complete access to your system
[22:53] <jack^_> not that i have experience with that
[22:53] <boltR> glebihan, sort of like the time() function
[22:53] <jack^_> boltR, you can exec the uptime command and have it print what is returned
[22:53] <JLuc> well it seems to be good now urlin2u
[22:53] <jack^_> i do it on my server
[22:53] <boltR> jack^_, okay i think i'll do that then
[22:53] <JLuc> but i switched to ubuntu classic because of problems with unity typing-zones
[22:53] <jack^_> bollullera, http://jack-server.com/blog/?page_id=1521
[22:54] <jack^_> boltR, http://jack-server.com/blog/?page_id=1521
[22:54] <jack^_> has an update
[22:54] <jack^_> uptime
[22:54] <JLuc> thanx for your help
[22:54] <jack^_> bollullera, unping
[22:54] <sammy> if I add a deb-src line, then apt-get update, shouldnt a new entry show up in apt-cache policy?
[22:54] <boltR> jack^_, awesome
[22:54] <boltR> exactly what i'm looking for
[22:54] <jack^_> boltR, one moment. let me grab the code
[22:55] <[unf]> I have a WD external drive, I password protected it on windows... I recently formated and installed ubuntu, is there a way I can run the Unlock.exe and unlock my drive?
[22:58] <notlistening> [unf],  have you tried wine?
[22:58] <alkafoo> [unf]: you installed Ubuntu onto the password protected drive?
[22:58] <Panocha> Hey.
[22:58] <[unf]> I installed ubuntu on my laptop, and the drive is external
[22:58] <Panocha> I am designing an ubuntu help forum for Spanish
[22:58] <alkafoo> Panocha: hey
[22:59] <alkafoo> [unf]: ah
[22:59] <[unf]> but the drive is password protected, and i'm trying to access it..
[22:59] <Panocha> it will have ubuntu-es embedded
[22:59] <[unf]> :|
[22:59] <Panocha> in a java applet
[22:59] <Panocha> but I need feedback on the logo choice
[22:59] <[unf]> and I was reading up on wine, and I don't think wine will allow it
[22:59] <alkafoo> [unf]: right, try Wine first
[22:59] <Panocha> here is a montage of the 4 logos under consideration
[22:59] <Panocha> http://i.imgur.com/Usqtb.jpg
[22:59] <Panocha> I need some feedback
[22:59] <Panocha> please
[22:59] <alkafoo> Panocha: hahah
[22:59] <alkafoo> nsfw^
[23:00] <notlistening> [unf] see here http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=555334
[23:00] <alkafoo> doesn't make a real great logo, either, heh
[23:00] <jack^_> boltR, list($uptime, $uptimehour, $user, $load1, $load2, $load3) = explode(",", exec('uptime'));
[23:00] <Panocha> nsfw?
[23:00] <Panocha> stop trolling
[23:00] <Panocha> they have penguins
[23:00] <Panocha> and ubuntu motifs
[23:00] <FloodBot1> Panocha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:00] <alkafoo> sure they have
[23:00] <boltR> jack^_, thanks a lot man
[23:00] <jack^_> wtf
[23:00] <jack^_> Panocha--
[23:00] <Panocha> oh sorry
[23:00] <Panocha> that was the logo for my other project
[23:00] <alkafoo> there are so many more disturbing images you could've linked to =P
[23:00] <Panocha> the forum for gay emo aspies
[23:01] <alkafoo> see I couldn't even tell it was a dude, looked like a chick
[23:01] <Panocha> it is disturbing for closeted homos who are homophobic
[23:01] <alkafoo> not that distrubing, it just looks like ordinary porn
[23:01] <jack^_> im banned from this channel on my actual name for disagreeing with a mod , and this fruit loop can post that shit?
[23:01] <Panocha> like Michelle Bachman's husband
[23:01] <notlistening> a person near to where i live got a suspended prison sentence for trolling :D
[23:01] <alkafoo> Panocha: yeah but if that's a guy it looks like a girl
[23:01] <Panocha> its an emo guy
[23:02] <Panocha> :>
[23:02] <alkafoo> jack^_: and now you'll probably be banned again, smart
[23:02] <alkafoo> Panocha: same thing
[23:02] <[unf]> my issue is that the drive has software that will only work in windows, as it's a .exe file
[23:02] <Panocha> alkafoo  I know  I love fucking whiney emo guys
[23:02] <alkafoo> [unf]: Wine is software for running win32 apps
[23:02] <[unf]> there is no way to execute a .exe? or perhapse chmod the file?
[23:02] <alkafoo> Panocha: heh
[23:02] <alkafoo> [unf]: install wine, then run wine path/to/unlock.exe
[23:02] <alkafoo> [unf]: might work, might not
[23:02] <[unf]> just sudo apt-get install wine?
[23:03] <alkafoo> [unf]: it might take less time to find a Windows install and remove the password protection
[23:03] <alkafoo> [unf]: you can re-encrypt with something less Windows specific afterwards
[23:03] <alkafoo> [unf]: probably yeah, apt-cache search wine would know for sure
[23:03] <[unf]> oh i'm getting an error
[23:03] <[unf]> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:03] <[unf]>  linux-image-grsec : Depends: linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-4-grsec but it is not going to be installed
[23:04] <alkafoo> [unf]: hrmm?
[23:04] <ubuntu_> can someone help me
[23:05] <og01> ubuntu_: depends what your problem is...
[23:05] <RocketLauncher> i am on wifi and i need to do internet sharing through ethernet into my imac g3 so i can install linux on it.. i went into auto eth0 and ipv4 settings and selected SHARE TO COMPUTERS and restarted it but it didnt work at all
[23:05] <og01> ubuntu_: dont ask to ask on irc (its rude)
[23:06] <ubuntu_> i have ubuntu 10.10 on disk one then i pluged in my windows disck mainly because i dont want to touch the windows boot loader so how can i run a dual boot
[23:06] <alkafoo> ubuntu_: what version of Windows?
[23:06] <ubuntu_> xp
[23:06] <Mondragon> anyone here know anything about packaging?
[23:07] <glebihan> Mondragon, you should ask in #ubuntu-packaging
[23:07] <Mondragon> ah, thanks
[23:07] <alkafoo> ubuntu_: pretty sure you can use EasyBCD with Windows XP
[23:07] <alkafoo> ubuntu_: which'll make it easy to set it up so your Windows boot loader can chainload GRUB
[23:08] <ubuntu_> ok thanks
[23:08] <alkafoo> ubuntu_: why is it you don't want to touch the windows boot loader?
[23:10] <ubuntu_> i like ubuntu but it always seems to hate xp on my pc optoplex gx280
[23:15] <kisuke> any one know anything about running ubiquity on an installed copy of ubuntu?
[23:24] <RocketLauncher> i think internet sharing doesnt work because ubuntu doesnt even recognize my ethernet.. what do i do? god..
[23:25] <og01> RocketLauncher: is the network interface showing with the command: ifconfig?
[23:26] <RocketLauncher> yeah og01
[23:26] <RocketLauncher> under wired networks i never see anything even when i enable internet sharing
[23:26] <RocketLauncher> i'm sharing this computer's connection to another one and i use wifi here.. but i want to share it with ethernet..
[23:27] <og01> im not the best person to talk to - im not sure what this 'internet sharing' feature is (im not very ubuntuy myself - maybe someone else can chime in)
[23:27] <yagoo> !nat
[23:28] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, is this computer hooked "directly" to the internet?
[23:28] <RocketLauncher> yagoo: yes, through wifi
[23:28] <RocketLauncher> if that's what you mean
[23:28] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, it's probably better to get a wifi adapter for the other station..
[23:29] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, wifi is not a direct internet connection...
[23:29] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, i'm not sure if the tools support wifi as a NAT point..
[23:29] <RocketLauncher> i had a laptop running Windows 7 and it worked
[23:30] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, where's the AP ?
[23:30] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, that's windows.. but i'm not sure on linux..
[23:30] <og01> RocketLauncher: its all perfectly possible
[23:31] <og01> RocketLauncher: but its not particularly simple stuff
[23:31] <RocketLauncher> aw
[23:31] <blacksunseven> Anyone else have issues with XBMC not listing shows/movies in Library Mode?
[23:31] <RocketLauncher> og01: do you know how though?
[23:31] <cProg> Hi all
[23:31] <cProg> My front microphone is not working. Anyone can help me to fix that problem? Thanks. I run ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS, and I have followed these instructions in vain: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[23:31] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, lookup NAT wifi
[23:31] <RocketLauncher> ok
[23:31] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, problem is this..
[23:31] <og01> RocketLauncher: yeah pretty much, you can run dnsmasq for dhcp and dns, and then route traffic via your wifi
[23:32] <alkafoo> cProg: laptop?
[23:32] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, you need to have WIFI documented as the WAN interface..
[23:32] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, which means.. almost impossible documentation
[23:32] <cProg> alkafoo: no it is a desktop
[23:32] <RocketLauncher> would it just be easier for me to dual boot Windows 7 on my Pentium 4 lool
[23:33] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, you can try it.. but treat the WAN wifi interface from documentation as its a LAN interface..
[23:33] <RocketLauncher> ok
[23:33] <og01> yagoo: which documentation/
[23:33] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, so instead of eth0 mentioned in documentation, think of it as wlan0 or wifi0
[23:33] <almoxarife> blacksunseven: you need to visit #xbmc
[23:33] <RocketLauncher> so is hould just edit wlan0 ipv4 settings in network manager?
[23:34] <StepNjump> Hi guys, I can no longer get X up and running so I logged on using a USB pen drive ubuntu. Now I would like to view my data that is still on this computer before I reinstall Ubuntu on the machine (essentially I'm trying to back up). I see my user name there but when I try to click on my old 'home' folder, permission is denied. Is it true that I need to sign in using SU so I could have access to my files?
[23:35] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, google "masquerade debian wiki"
[23:35] <yagoo> !masquerade
[23:35] <yagoo> or masquerade ubuntu wiki
[23:35] <RocketLauncher> ok i hope this works
[23:35] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, maybe this http://www.google.ca/search?q=masquerade+ubuntu+wiki&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[23:36] <og01> RocketLauncher: its on of those things, linux is perfect for this job - it can do pretty much any networking magic you could ever think of, but on the flip side its never as simple as you would like, and you just need to put in the time reading documentation and understanding networks in general
[23:36] <Jeruvy> StepNjump: I wouldn't go that route.  I'd fix gdm.  How did you break it?
[23:37] <StepNjump> Oh gosh, it's totally dead Jeruvy... I forget what happened. I think I just downloaded the updates and since then, it will only boot up in low graphics mode
[23:38] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[23:38] <RocketLauncher> that's what i read
[23:39] <StepNjump> Jeruvy, I just wanted to install on top of the current installation. Will that confuse GRUB?
[23:39] <og01> RocketLauncher: does your ethernet port show a link light?
[23:39] <Jeruvy> StepNjump: well it's your call, but I'd review the problem and fix it rather than reinstall.
[23:39] <flowr> HI FELLOWS MY NAME IS JOHN AND I AM 9 AND I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT LINUX I LIKE COMPUTERS HOW DO YOU INSTALL A WIN 9.11 SIMULATOR?
[23:39] <og01> RocketLauncher: that guide is esactly what you want to do
[23:39] <RocketLauncher> no og01
[23:39] <RocketLauncher> og01: i followed that guide though
[23:39] <StepNjump> Why Jeruvy?
[23:39] <swim> I'm using lucid on a dell d600 with a bcm4306 wlan card.  for months the wlan has worked great.  yesterday and today had router disconnect issues, now have extremely slow connection
[23:39] <og01> RocketLauncher: are you usinga  special cross-over cable?
[23:39] <RocketLauncher> no
[23:39] <Jeruvy> StepNjump: easier, less work/time
[23:39] <flowr> anyone wanna cam? sexy girls, ASL? webcam?
[23:40] <RocketLauncher> flowr: i do but i'm not a girl and i may be small
[23:40] <StepNjump> Jeruvy, I'm a new user so I have almost nothing in there as far as data is concerned
[23:40] <og01> RocketLauncher: are you using a hub or switch between the two pc's or are you connecting computer directly to computer?
[23:40] <koa> hello
[23:40] <RocketLauncher> og01: directly to computer
[23:40] <og01> RocketLauncher: does this cable work udner windows?
[23:40] <RocketLauncher> yeah
[23:40] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, are you using a "cross-over" link rj45 cable? maybe u have to set it up with the driver.. or simply use a cross-over cable if the data-links don't light up
[23:40] <Jeruvy> StepNjump: your call, good luck.
[23:40] <RocketLauncher> In windows i went into the wifi adapter's settings and enabled internet sharing and it worked through ethernet somehow
[23:41] <og01> yagoo: drivers can do that?
[23:41] <StepNjump> Jeruvy, how would you identify using the old password and old username using a pendrive?
[23:41] <StepNjump> should I use su?
[23:41] <RocketLauncher> yagoo: i dont have a crossover cable
[23:41] <og01> RocketLauncher: usualy if your connecting a computer directly to another computer you would need a crossover cable, but this applies to windows too
[23:42] <kristen> Can anyone point me in the right direction for wireless help?
[23:42] <Jeruvy> StepNjump: You can't.
[23:42] <RocketLauncher> og01: since it worked on windows could it work on ubantu
[23:42] <og01> RocketLauncher: unless as yagoo implied it can be managed or set these days
[23:42] <elky> flowr, do you plan to start behaving any time soon?
[23:42] <StepNjump> Jeruvy, so how an I get to my previous data under a gui environment?
[23:43] <og01> RocketLauncher: well yeah, it should - but the driver level autocrossing of the pairs is news to me
[23:43] <Jeruvy> StepNjump: take ownership of the data and move it.
[23:43] <og01> RocketLauncher: if you have no link light between the machines thats at the datalink level
[23:43] <flowr> elky: I havent behaved at all since .. umm.. 20kb of text.. aer you still waiting? :p
[23:43] <og01> RocketLauncher: ie its not related to linux or windows
[23:43] <og01> RocketLauncher: and you need to sort out the cabling
[23:44] <elky> !guidelines > flowr
[23:44] <flowr> i mean.. behaved as in, doing actuion
[23:44] <mason> uit
[23:44] <yagoo> RocketLauncher, i'm not sure if there's an option for cross-over somewhere, it's possible.. but I would use a cross-over cable to make things easier..
[23:44] <StepNjump> Jeruvy, I have no problem copying the data in terminal when I boot up with grub to that partition but not when I'm booted up using a ubuntu mounted on a  pen drive
[23:44] <koa> hey guys i need help with uninstalling kde on ubuntu 11.4 <
[23:45] <Jeruvy> StepNjump: I cannot assist you further in this course of action.
[23:45] <StepNjump> ok thanks
[23:45] <brylie> We have a computer lab with several Ubuntu PCs. I would like to remotely configure and update those machines. What are some good tools to consider that would allow for a centralized configuration server to be utilized for our lab computers?
[23:45] <koa> -.- everytime i boot kde mess up my nvidia driver and i have to install it again in order to log hlep plz T_T
[23:46] <Log> what
[23:46] <Log> oh
[23:47] <Logan_> rww: I keep getting false pings :P
[23:47] <false> Logan_: I keep getting false highlights :P
[23:48] <Logan_> haha
[23:48] <Jeruvy> false :)
[23:49] <yagoo> brylie, i dont think much more tools would be needed.. you'd like to set a LAN restricted repository in order to save internet bandwidth.. and add that "repo" for your machines.. (the dpkg-scanpackages tool is used to make a repo from a directory of .deb files)
[23:51] <brylie> OK. I would also like to do things like manage printer configurations.
[23:51] <og01> brylie: rsync maybe?
[23:51] <og01> brylie: and cron
[23:52] <yagoo> brylie, well I dont know of all the tools.. but you'd probably like to ask #cups.. there's "swat" but it's not very secure.. (there's ways to make it secure)
[23:52] <og01> brylie: you can auto push certain configuration files that
[23:52] <og01> *then
[23:52] <yagoo> og01, he doesn't need rsync..
[23:53] <og01> yagoo: sounds like a combination of rsync and cron would fullfill all the requirements he asked for?
[23:55] <yagoo> og01, rsync would unnecessarily mirror all .deb files.. it would sort of increase LAN activity with his LAN repo.
[23:55] <yagoo> a LAN repo would be sufficient (he was asking for centralized control)
[23:55] <og01> yagoo: ah no i was refering to the remotely configure server machines part
[23:55] <yagoo> otherwise no point in calling it "centralized" :)
[23:55] <magpii> ok, i am admin, there is only me using my system, but i have a pid user called pypo listed in the "top" terminal command. can someone advise please
[23:56] <magpii> pypo is running a program called liquidsoap
[23:56] <SIFTU> brylie: puppet is your tool
[23:57] <yagoo> og01, that wouldn't be good enough.. he needs dpkg-scanpackages to make his local meta description index file
[23:57] <og01> brylie: puppet++ - but i've never used it personally i've heard good things
[23:57] <yagoo> og01, he'd be overwriting his on index files for his repo..
[23:57] <yagoo> and then he'd have to recreate his index files if he uses rsync..
[23:58] <yagoo> he needs to do a one-shot copy for now.. test it out locally.. then i guess he can mess around with it later..
[23:59] <urlin2u> magpii, are you streaming any audio or video?
[23:59] <magpii> no, I am doing nothing at the moment


[06:07] <dubsquared> Greetings, UEC folks!  Is there an easy way to disable cloud init from the UEC images?  I want to 'turn it off' for a some testing, then re-enable it for further testing.
[15:24] <superxgl> hiiiiiiiii, all
[15:24] <superxgl> when i start eucalyptus, i got an error like this :
[15:24] <superxgl> [root@NC02 cloud]# /etc/init.d/eucalyptus-nc start
[15:24] <superxgl> You should have at least 32 loop devices
[15:24] <superxgl> Starting Eucalyptus services:
[15:24] <superxgl> Warning! Cannot find bridge xenbr0: instances may be without net
[15:24] <superxgl> done.
[15:24] <superxgl> what should i do ????
[15:50] <superxgl> hmm,,, i see...


[04:41] <OERIAS> Hello. Anyone know the next local meeting date in the L.A  metropolitan area?
[04:46] <nhaines> OERIAS: we don't have local meetings.  We have statewide meetings every two weeks right in here.
[04:47] <OERIAS> at berkeley?
[04:47] <nhaines> No, in IRC, right here in this channel.
[04:48] <nhaines> I think the next event actually planned is the Southern California Linux Expo (SCALE) at the Hilton LAX at the end of February.
[04:53] <OERIAS> Ah neat!
[04:55] <nhaines> As a group we're focused on Ubuntu advocacy, so we don't have real-life meetings.  But we do help others out with theirs sometimes.
[04:56] <nhaines> I'm speaking at the Los Angeles Computer Society some time next year... January is looking plausible.  :)