[03:19] <adam_> oh- they must have been hotlinks. i just wanted the text..
[03:19] <adam_> i see now, thanks
[03:19] <EasterSunshine> geppy: do you know about wine?
[03:19] <james> what is crossover?
[03:19] <geppy> EasterSunshine: haha, of course
[03:19] <EasterSunshine> greppy: i don't konw how promising it is to run alcohol 120% on wine though...
[03:19] <nariman> what core is ubuntu build on??????
[03:19] <geppy> EasterSunshine: Enough to know that I'd rather run a native application. ;)
[03:19] <geppy> nariman: By "core" do you mean "kernel"?
[03:19] <adam_> puol, ICEWM4?
[03:19] <HrdwrBoB> EasterSunshine: .. no that would be silly
[03:19] <adam_> doesn't exist
[03:19] <dimethyl> hello
[03:19] <nariman> can u use drivers that are built for other kernels?
[03:20] <james> how about dos games?
[03:20] <geppy> I'm running Ubuntu Hoary, and it comes with Linux kernel 2.6.10-5-386
[03:20] <Quest-Master> nariman: no
[03:20] <geppy> nariman: er, no
[03:20] <nariman> :(
[03:20] <adam_> 1.2.?
[03:20] <dimethyl> does anyone know of a program for linux that converts divx3 to svcds?
[03:20] <Agrajag> james: use dosbox
[03:20] <Razor-X> is there any command to undo an `rm'?
[03:20] <Razor-X> ;)
[03:20] <nariman> geppy: if there is a "source" alternative for driver, shall i chose them instad then?
[03:20] <james> what is dosbox?
[03:20] <geppy> Razor-X: haha
[03:20] <adam_> rzor x, usually no
[03:20] <Razor-X> quickly, i'm losing the file as I speak!
[03:20] <Razor-X> -_-
[03:20] <geppy> nariman: huh?
[03:20] <nightcrawler> i got a question thast un-ubuntu related
[03:20] <thezombiehunter> how do i get my sound to work, i have disabled the onboard sound and my sound card is sound blaster live 24bit im running kubuntu
[03:20] <nightcrawler> can i ask it?
[03:20] <adam_> rm is quite permanant
[03:20] <geppy> Razor-X: CTRL-C
[03:20] <dimethyl> hit control c razor
[03:21] <Agrajag> james: it emulates an 486 running dos
[03:21] <Razor-X> geppy: I didn't rm /
[03:21] <Madpilot> !info dosbox
[03:21] <dimethyl> than go to sourceforge and look fora program of such
[03:21] <ubotu> dosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[03:21] <Agrajag> freedos I think
[03:21] <Razor-X> it was a 200 MB file
[03:21] <james> where would I get it from?
[03:21] <HrdwrBoB> thezombiehunter: start alsamixer in a terminal, go to main and PCM, and unmute them (press m)
[03:21] <nariman> geppy: im looking for video drivers for my card, and i've found different drivers att viaarena.com
[03:21] <Agrajag> james: the bot just said it's in universe
[03:21] <geppy> dimethyl: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A//dvdripping-guid.berlios.de/Divx-to-VCD_en.html&ei=4TMFQ9DgAqbO4QGa_vWODg
[03:21] <Madpilot> james: from the ubuntu repositories
[03:21] <nariman> but there are no drivers for ubuntu
[03:21] <Razor-X> time to retorrent it
[03:21] <dimethyl> thanks geppy
[03:21] <Razor-X> last time I forget to read my M-p .....
[03:21] <nariman> what shall i do?
[03:21] <thezombiehunter> HrdwrBpB: is Alsamixer installed
[03:21] <dimethyl> ya thanks a lot buddy!
[03:22] <james> oh ok thank you
[03:22] <geppy> dimethyl: No problem, and no assurances that that'll work ;)
[03:22] <nariman> can't i just compile the source and use the drivers???
[03:22] <Ice9> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) how do I fix that
[03:22] <geppy> nariman: sure, do that
[03:22] <nariman> and it will work?
[03:22] <geppy> nariman: That would be the desired effect.
[03:23] <nariman> haha, another question:) how do i compile :/ newbie
[03:23] <raggedgentleman> so firefox is dead after i did apt-get upgrade
[03:23] <thezombiehunter> how do i start/get alsamixer
[03:23] <geppy> thezombiehunter: sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[03:23] <thezombiehunter> *slaps head* thks
[03:23] <geppy> thezombiehunter: then `alsamixer`
[03:23] <geppy> thezombiehunter: No problem.
[03:23] <Dreamer3_> anyone use XFCE?
[03:23] <Dreamer3_> anyone use XFCE?
[03:24] <muffin_> i get following wine error message:regedit: Can't export. Registry key 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall' does not exist!
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> thezombiehunter@thezombiehunter:~$ sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> Password:
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> Reading package lists... Done
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> E: Couldn't find package alsamixer
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> thezombiehunter@thezombiehunter:~$
[03:24] <EasterSunshine> hey ppl recommend against running raid without the mirror/backup drive, isn't that the same risk as running thru ide?
[03:24] <raggedgentleman> raggedgentleman@wastedspace:~ $ /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox//firefox-bin
[03:24] <raggedgentleman> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox//firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:24] <raggedgentleman> raggedgentleman@wastedspace:~ $
[03:24] <geppy> thezombiehunter: please don't post so much, it's obnoxious
[03:24] <geppy> *sigh*
[03:24] <puol> ............
[03:24] <Ice9> lol
[03:24] <EasterSunshine> !pastebin
[03:24] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> geppy: sorry, so what do i do
[03:24] <umboto> hey what program would you guys recommend for ripping my audio cds with lame?
[03:24] <geppy> umboto: Sound-Juicer
[03:25] <nariman> what does "bash" command do?
[03:25] <EasterSunshine> umboto: lame
[03:25] <geppy> umboto: Install 'gstreamer0.8-plugins' first
[03:25] <DVSoftware> Razor-X, which filesystem
[03:25] <EasterSunshine> nariman: it opens a bash shell
[03:25] <umboto> okay
[03:25] <geppy> nariman: bash is the shell, that just opens the shell
[03:25] <muffin_> i get following wine error message:regedit: Can't export. Registry key 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall' does not exist!
[03:25] <nariman> whats a shell?
[03:25] <geppy> thezombiehunter: I guess you should already have it
[03:25] <thezombiehunter> alright
[03:25] <geppy> nariman: A terminal, console, whatever
[03:25] <aru> umboto: Applications > Sound and Video > Sound Juicer
[03:25] <Varanger> hi... I've got a CHM file... how can I open under Ubuntu?
[03:25] <nariman> mhm
[03:25] <thezombiehunter> and i do have it
[03:25] <thezombiehunter> so what do i do now?
[03:25] <EasterSunshine> nariman: its that black screen that interprets what you type in and does stuff
[03:25] <puol> use xchm
[03:26] <Varanger> puol: Thanks!
[03:26] <thezombiehunter> geppy: what do i do to enable sound when in the mixer
[03:26] <geppy> thezombiehunter: move them up ;)
[03:26] <EasterSunshine> nariman: its what you type ls and cd ~ and sh and bash and stuff into
[03:26] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[03:26] <umboto> aru, how i set it up with lame?
[03:26] <thezombiehunter> Geppy: how?
[03:26] <dech> thezombiehunter or press m to unmute/mute
[03:26] <dech> use up and down arros
[03:26] <umboto> it only gives me wav and vorbis
[03:26] <dech> arrows*
[03:26] <umboto> and flac
[03:27] <thezombiehunter> do i want the master off?
[03:27] <thezombiehunter> couse its up all the way
[03:27] <thezombiehunter> and master was on
[03:27] <Dime> how do i check my dns?
[03:27] <umboto> do i rip them as wav then use lame to encode them?
[03:27] <umboto> ??
[03:27] <geppy> thezombiehunter: put everything up, see what works
[03:27] <EasterSunshine> dime: what do you mean by check dns?
[03:27] <reiki> is there a gnome ftp app? something graphical rather than CLine?
[03:27] <thezombiehunter> geppy: 3 of em wont go up at all
[03:27] <umboto> reiki,  gftp
[03:27] <geppy> thezombiehunter: That's rather unfortunate.
[03:27] <Dime> my isps dns
[03:27] <reiki> okies
[03:27] <reiki> thanks
[03:28] <umboto> np
[03:28] <geppy> As entertaining as trying to find an answer in here is... I'm off to play Doom3.
[03:28] <thezombiehunter> geppy: so im guessing i have to do somthing else lol
[03:28] <EasterSunshine> dime: type in `host <hostname>` and if an ip comes up, its working
[03:28] <geppy> thezombiehunter: just play with it
[03:28] <Madpilot> reiki: gFTP, but it's pretty lousy...
[03:28] <reiki> grrrrr... wanted a graphic ssh/sftp prog
[03:29] <umboto> i perfer using ftp command in console itself
[03:29] <reiki> sftp more important than ssh at this point
[03:29] <EasterSunshine> can gnome run konqeuror? i heard something about gnome being able to handle kde apps
[03:29] <reiki> umboto: I looking for EASY to use for non-techies.
[03:29] <puol> of course easter
[03:29] <skalpel> is there anyway yo rip mp3's in ubuntu?
[03:29] <misfit_toy> EasterSunshine, you can run kde apps under gnome but you need all the KDE lib's installed
[03:29] <umboto> skalpel,  they said use sound juicer
[03:30] <umboto> im assuming use sound juicer to wav then wav to mp3 with lame
[03:30] <misfit_toy> skalpel, soundjuicer
[03:30] <umboto> im gonna try it out
[03:30] <skalpel> umboto: it does not come with an mp3 encoder and i cannot find the gstreamer-lame package anywhere in the repositories
[03:30] <peaker> I manually installed alsa because the package didn't have the azx driver in it (via make make install)
[03:30] <misfit_toy> skalpel, update your repos
[03:30] <Madpilot> I think you can refit SoundJuicer to rip mp3 rather than ogg - check the forums or wiki
[03:30] <peaker> Now I can't use MAKEDEV to make the devices
[03:30] <peaker> I think it has something to do with hotplug, any idea?
[03:30] <misfit_toy> soundjuicer will rip to whatever you have codecs for
[03:31] <thezombiehunter> after i change the alsamixer do i have to re logon?
[03:31] <nightcrawler> how do i uninstall kubuntu-desktop?
[03:31] <skalpel> misfit_toy: okay
[03:31] <misfit_toy> thezombiehunter, no
[03:31] <thezombiehunter> then it did not work lol
[03:31] <Madpilot> misfit_toy: ah, OK. never bothered with ripping mp3, I'm just ripping to .ogg. thanks for the info though
[03:31] <misfit_toy> nightcrawler, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[03:31] <Tzi> Hi =)
[03:32] <puol> hi
[03:32] <darkheart> Anyone have trouble with firefox only loading half of a flash page? When I go to www.speedtv.com half the page is greyed out..
[03:32] <misfit_toy> high
[03:32] <Tzi> Does anyone know where I can get xev in Breezy?  (I know, we shouldn't be using it yet, but I was having memory problems in Hoary..)
[03:32] <skalpel> misfit_toy: thank you, that worked.
[03:32] <misfit_toy> skalpel, cool
[03:32] <hubsi> re genossen :D
[03:32] <Tzi> darkheart: You haven't applied that download-in-parallel thing have you?
[03:32] <thezombiehunter> i get this message when i start the desktop
[03:32] <darkheart> Tzi Don't think so, I'm not sure what that is =)
[03:33] <muffin_> how do i install DCOM98.EXE with wine???
[03:33] <thezombiehunter> SOUND server informational message:
[03:33] <thezombiehunter> error while initializing the sound driver:
[03:33] <thezombiehunter> device: defult cant be opend for playback (no such file or directory)
[03:33] <thezombiehunter> the sound server will continue using the null output device..
[03:33] <skalpel> can someone tell me what to do about this error?
[03:33] <thezombiehunter> (sorry for long message)
[03:33] <Madpilot> !paste
[03:33] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:33] <raggedgentleman> i'm having a problem updating with apt-get
[03:33] <skalpel>   Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[03:34] <thezombiehunter> but really. cam you tell me what to do?
[03:34] <raggedgentleman> im using warty and it can't download from the backports group
[03:34] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Do you have a /dev/dsp?
[03:34] <raggedgentleman> and i get a 403 forbidden
[03:34] <thezombiehunter> ill look
[03:35] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[03:35] <skalpel> can someoen tell me what to do about this error? The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:35] <skalpel>   gstreamer0.8-lame: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[03:35] <skalpel> E: Broken packages
[03:35] <raggedgentleman> and i cant use firefox to look for help online
[03:35] <thezombiehunter> tzi: its the dsp a folder?
[03:35] <raggedgentleman> im about to reinstall...
[03:35] <Tzi> raggedgentleman: Are you using a mirror?
[03:35] <speel> any programers in here?
[03:35] <peaker> Tzi: I don't have one and I'm struggling with MAKEDEV which wouldn't create it :(  I found something in google about udev making MAKEDEV not work because there are no "hotplug events", but I remember it used to be so much simpler in the past..
[03:35] <Tzi> raggedgentleman: For backports..
[03:35] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, i dont know...
[03:36] <Tzi> peaker: You don't have a /dev/dsp, you mean?
[03:36] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: the backport url changed a while ago
[03:36] <Madpilot> !backport
[03:36] <ubotu> hmm... backport is see !backports
[03:36] <Tzi> Yep
[03:36] <Madpilot> !backports
[03:36] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[03:36] <peaker> Tzi: Right, not the alsa one either.. :-(
[03:36] <thezombiehunter> tzi: i dont see anything
[03:36] <peaker> tzi: What's supposed to mknod these in ubuntu?
[03:36] <thezombiehunter> tzi: i do have dev thou
[03:36] <Mot> can someone help me install ubuntu
[03:36] <raggedgentleman> could you tell me what is the new one?
[03:37] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: ubotu's message used to say - search the wiki for it
[03:37] <thezombiehunter> Mot: kinda busy, but what do you need?
[03:37] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Try sudo mknod /dev/dsp c 14 3
[03:37] <Mot> i was wondering
[03:37] <Mot> once you burn the cd
[03:37] <peaker> Tzi: Why mknod directly works but MAKEDEV which does exactly that has no effect?
[03:37] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Don't know why it's not there.. But that may fix things.. I'm not quite sure how esd grabs the soundcard...
[03:37] <Mot> you just leave it in ur drive
[03:37] <Mot> ?
[03:37] <Mot> and then on the reboot
[03:37] <raggedgentleman> Madpilot, well durring the upgrade it killed my firefox
[03:37] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:37] <Mot> itll install ?
[03:37] <Tzi> peaker: Not sure... makedev is a script, which I assume uses mknod..
[03:37] <raggedgentleman> Madpilot, thank you sir
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> Tzi: correct
[03:38] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: nvm i guess i missed it it says the file exists
[03:38] <peaker> Tzi: Exactly, I even strace -f'd it, and it calls mknod, but nothing is created(!) I am still puzzled
[03:38] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: no problem; as to Firefox, I think there was a problem with it & backports... I don't use FF myself though
[03:38] <peaker> Tzi: If I call mknod myself, it works.. if I run MAKEDEV as non-admin, it complains about privelege to mknod, as if someone's rm'ing MAKEDEV's nodes immediately after it creates them
[03:38] <muffin_> how do i install DCOM98.EXE with wine???
[03:38] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: i got the soundcard to work in suse 9.3 pro using ALSACONFIG
[03:39] <raggedgentleman> Madpilot, what are you using?
[03:39] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Okay.. Do you know if the soundcard is working at all at the moment?
[03:39] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: why
[03:39] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: Opera 8.02 - www.opera.com/download
[03:39] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: it works fine on windows, im on duel boot right now
[03:39] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Oh, I mean in Linux..
[03:39] <muffin_> HrdwrBoB, windows seems to need it in the base system
[03:39] <raggedgentleman> Madpilot,  ah but cant get there with out the browser =o)
[03:40] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: .. for what reason
[03:40] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: what are you trying to achieve
[03:40] <Ice9> !ati
[03:40] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:40] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: no nothing in linux period
[03:40] <muffin_> wine tool lists the file in the base setup
[03:40] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Can you for example do a cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ? (turn down your speakers first)
[03:40] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: heh. sorry... I can't remember what the fix for FF was
[03:40] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: a what//
[03:40] <muffin_> HrdwrBoB, explorer needs that file to be installed
[03:40] <biscuit_> ubotu
[03:41] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Type it in a terminal.. It'll chuck random data onto your soundcard, just to see if it's working..
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: why are you running explorer in wine
[03:41] <regeya> rofflecopters
[03:41] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: type this? cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp nothing happens
[03:41] <muffin_> HrdwrBoB, its in the base setup of wine tool
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: you need to tell me what you want to achieve not specufuc technical questions
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> specific
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: ?
[03:41] <biscuit_> How do I get my Realtek Hi Def Audio card to work in ubuntu
[03:42] <HrdwrBoB> I just ran apt-get install wine
[03:42] <muffin_> i want to complete the wine insallation
[03:42] <HrdwrBoB> and wine worked
[03:42] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Can you hear anything coming through the speakers? Does it give any errors?
[03:42] <regeya> indeed, same here.
[03:42] <thezombiehunter> no
[03:42] <thezombiehunter> no errors
[03:42] <thezombiehunter> no sound
[03:43] <Tzi> So I guess the soundcard's working..Do you have a working mixer? Just see what the volume's set to
[03:43] <regeya> if you need to set up wine after installation and hate editing rc files, try 'winecfg'
[03:43] <biscuit_> How do you open the mixer
[03:43] <HrdwrBoB> if it's a soundblaster audigy
[03:43] <Ice9> how do I edit xorg?
[03:43] <biscuit_> Whats the term command
[03:43] <HrdwrBoB> the volume is muted
[03:43] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: i got alsamixer set up and unmuted do i need to get a mixer
[03:43] <HrdwrBoB> !audigy
[03:43] <ubotu> audigy is, like, muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[03:43] <thezombiehunter> its Sound Blaster 24 bit live
[03:43] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Are you in gnome now?  Just double-click on the volume control on the panel..
[03:43] <biscuit_> How do you set up alsamixer in ubuntu
[03:43] <thezombiehunter> no im in Kubuntu
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> biscuit_: open a terminal
[03:44] <Ice9> !xorg
[03:44] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> run alsamixer
[03:44] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Ah.. Does it have a mixer?
[03:44] <skalpel> can someone help me with installing gstreamer0.8-lame?
[03:44] <skalpel> it says i have dependency problams between packages
[03:44] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: i got alsamixer...it came with system, but i DO NOT have the real alsa i think
[03:44] <raggedgentleman> could someome tellme what the new backports repository is please =o)
[03:45] <peaker> Arrrrrrrrg udev sucks!!! What was wrong with normal mknod'd devices ?  It used to be simple and now it takes hours to get a node to be created :(  What advantages are there at all?
[03:45] <Tzi> !backports
[03:45] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[03:45] <biscuit_> HrdwrBob: It says command not found
[03:45] <Tzi> raggedgentleman:  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:45] <skalpel> would someone like to tell me what this meanns? gstreamer0.8-lame: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[03:45] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: can i use a sudo apt-get install command for the alsa?
[03:46] <HrdwrBoB> biscuit_: alsamixer is installed by default
[03:46] <regeya> !udev
[03:46] <ubotu> Wish i knew, regeya
[03:46] <regeya> lol
[03:46] <thezombiehunter> then why wont my sound card work
[03:46] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Alsa will already be there.. It comes with k/ubuntu..
[03:46] <bur[n] er> anyone know what to do if I get a X_OpenFont error?
[03:46] <HrdwrBoB> alsa-utils: /usr/bin/alsamixer
[03:46] <regeya> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:46] <thezombiehunter> ?
[03:46] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[03:47] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: i know the only way i got it to work on suse was saying alsaconfig
[03:47] <nxv_> hi, i have trouble running topcoders learning area
[03:47] <nxv_> can somebody test if this works for him/her?
[03:47] <nxv_> javaws http://www.topcoder.com/contest/arena/ContestAppletGoogle.jnlp
[03:47] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: is there a guide for this
[03:48] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Apart from Google, not that i know of
[03:48] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Have you searched for your soundcard on ubuntuforums?
[03:48] <biscuit_> HrdwrBoB: Is says that function snd_ctl_open failed for default
[03:48] <tristanmike> Hi all
[03:48] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Chances are, it's already working
[03:48] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: u know iv made about 3 posts about it and they dont even reply. no i did serch for no sound...nothing i needed.
[03:48] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: then why wont it work
[03:49] <snorks> how do i check what is running? or how do i kill cedega?
[03:49] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: It's probably just been stolen by one of the sound servers or something
[03:49] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Is esd running?
[03:49] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: how do i find out lol
[03:49] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Cos if it is, it probably should be killed to allow kde's sound server to have a go..
[03:49] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Just try 'killall esd'
[03:49] <dech> thezombiehunter is your soundcard an audigy ?
[03:49] <thezombiehunter> sound blaster 24 bit live
[03:50] <zblach> hi
[03:50] <zblach> anyone here know how to set up a wireless card?
[03:50] <dech> ok type
[03:50] <dech> alsamixer
[03:50] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: esd: no process killed
[03:50] <Tzi> zblach: What kind of wireless card?
[03:50] <thezombiehunter> dech: what?
[03:50] <dech> in rpompt
[03:50] <dech> alsamixer
[03:50] <dech> prompt*
[03:51] <thezombiehunter> dech: i did that alredy
[03:51] <dech> Ok
[03:51] <thezombiehunter> dech: didint help
[03:51] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: sudo fuser /dev/snd/pcm*
[03:51] <dech> ok
[03:51] <dech> did you unmute master and turn it up
[03:51] <dech> and also
[03:51] <thezombiehunter> yea
[03:51] <dech> 3rd last one
[03:51] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: fuser -v actually
[03:52] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, ubuntuforums.org is hosting the backport repository??
[03:52] <Tzi> raggedgentleman: I think it used to but not any more.. There are mirrors now
[03:52] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, cuz i cant accaully do any web browsing from here
[03:52] <thezombiehunter> nothing happend
[03:52] <Tzi> raggedgentleman: Ahh okay.. Hang on, lemme get you a mirror
[03:52] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: nothing
[03:52] <tristanmike> sorry to jump in, but there is quite a lenghty thread on ubuntu forums about the soundblaster 24 bit cards
[03:52] <Tzi> deb  http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[03:52] <Tzi> deb  http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:52] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, thanks a lot
[03:52] <Mot> anyone know BIOS settings
[03:53] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Okay, so nothing is using the soundcard.. Hmm...
[03:53] <Tzi> tristanmike: Hmm, that sounds helpful =)
[03:53] <snorks> How do I check what apps are running?
[03:53] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Have you seen that thread?
[03:53] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, wait im stuck in warty accually =o)
[03:53] <tristanmike> Tzi: here it is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307&highlight=sound+blaster+24bit
[03:54] <snorks> where do i find the ID if i want to kill something?
[03:54] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[03:54] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: dont think so
[03:54] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: ill get back to you
[03:54] <oceandead> im never buying another creative product
[03:54] <tristanmike> thezombiehunter: have you seen this thread yet?? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307&highlight=sound+blaster+24bit
[03:54] <oceandead> everrrrr
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> yea
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> im trying it now thou
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> lol
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> can somone help mot
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> none of the linux works for him
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> i think hes not burning it as a ISO image
[03:55] <tristanmike> Mot: what's your problem
[03:56] <Mot> back
[03:56] <Mot> ok
[03:56] <snorks> How do I check what apps are currently running? I want to kill something, but I don't know how
[03:56] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, thanks for the mirror!
[03:57] <Mot> tristan: i think there is something wrong with my bios
[03:57] <Mot> but i dont know what
[03:57] <thezombiehunter> Mot: make sure ur burning it right, theres nothing wrong with ur os trust me on that
[03:57] <skalpel> can someone telol me how to send a broadcast message to a user logged into my computer?
[03:57] <Mot> it wont load cds at the beginning
[03:57] <tristanmike> snorks: you can try system moniter
[03:57] <tristanmike> *monitor
[03:57] <geneo93> sudo pidof (app)
[03:58] <thezombiehunter> mot: the same thing happend to me, u need a good burning program that can burn ISO images...but i dont know which one now lol
[03:58] <Mot> roxio does  burn iso's
[03:58] <oceandead>  make sure burning it right (in nero - "file" > "burn image...")
[03:58] <thezombiehunter> Mot: if all else fails, ask somone to send u a ubuntu CD
[03:58] <oceandead> then make sure bios is set to boot from cd first
[03:59] <Mot> no but before i tried using redhat and that didnt work but that was a cd that came with a redhat guide
[03:59] <tristanmike> Mot: yes, like oceandead said, are you set to boot from CD in the BIOS
[03:59] <Mot> i tried to set it like that
[03:59] <Mot> but still it doesnt work
[03:59] <Mot> you go to boot order
[03:59] <biscuit_> Ok, I did sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 and it worked fine, but then when I tried to use alsamixer, it gave me still : alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:59] <Mot> than i put   boot from usb or cd rom first i think
[03:59] <Mot> it was the only thing that said cd in it
[03:59] <tristanmike> Mot: Boot order, Floppy/CD/CD
[03:59] <oceandead> Mot, when you put the cd in the drive and browse the contents in a file manager...is there only one file (a .iso)?
[04:00] <ice_1963> red hat :0(-
[04:00] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: sudo fuser /dev/snd/pcm*
[04:00] <Mot> when i put the cd in the drive
[04:00] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1379
[04:00] <Mot> while the comp is already on, a folder comes up
[04:00] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: it fails on 3ed step
[04:00] <Mot> but when i boot it up wiith the cd already in nothing happens
[04:00] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: alsa-source, is not installed
[04:00] <zblach> Tzi: A Linksys ... lemme look it up
[04:01] <oceandead> bios...
[04:01] <Mot> ?
[04:01] <Mot> i tried to fix my bios
[04:01] <zblach> Tzi, a Wireless-G WMP54G
[04:01] <Mot> but nothing changed
[04:01] <Mot> same thing
[04:01] <oceandead> did you save the changes?
[04:01] <thezombiehunter> hey anyone know how to add more port forwarding on linksys...its gettin annoying
[04:01] <Mot> its been saved
[04:01] <bjweeks> yes
[04:01] <Mot> when i go to it'
[04:01] <zblach> thezombiehunter, a linksys router?
[04:01] <Mot> its already in the right order
[04:02] <thezombiehunter> zblach: yea
[04:02] <oceandead> linksys router?
[04:02] <thezombiehunter> yes
[04:02] <Mot> thezombiehunter: www.portforward.com
[04:02] <bjweeks> no
[04:02] <bjweeks> he want more
[04:02] <tristanmike> Mot: Like oceandead asked, if you open the cd, do you have just one file?
[04:02] <thezombiehunter> im out of port range forwarding
[04:02] <bjweeks> you should try a open source firmwere
[04:02] <bjweeks> like ddwrt
[04:02] <thezombiehunter> were do i get it
[04:02] <Mot> no
[04:02] <bjweeks> 1 sec
[04:02] <Mot> one i open the cd
[04:02] <Mot> i have folders
[04:02] <oceandead> depends what router
[04:03] <tristanmike> thezombiehunter: I have a linksys router
[04:03] <zblach> same
[04:03] <Mot> when*
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> cool
[04:03] <oceandead> which model i mean
[04:03] <zblach> but i'm having trouble with my wireless card
[04:03] <bjweeks> lol
[04:03] <biscuit_> My alsamixer won't open and i did a modprobe?
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> 3rd Step - This will allow you to configure the alsa source.
[04:03] <thezombiehunter>
[04:03] <thezombiehunter>
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> Quote:
[04:03] <thezombiehunter>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source, and say no to PnP, yes to debug, and choose the ca0106 driver it fao;s
[04:03] <Concord_Dawn> zblach, what model?
[04:03] <oceandead> openwrt, hyperwrt, ddwrt, etc etc
[04:03] <bjweeks> ^^^ what he said
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> that fails
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> the 3ed step
[04:03] <biscuit_> Oh
[04:03] <oceandead> i havent tried em yet
[04:03] <biscuit_> I configured it ok
[04:03] <bjweeks> i love em
[04:04] <bjweeks> openwrt is hard to use tho
[04:04] <Concord_Dawn> can someone help me with installing a JSP container for Apache2?
[04:04] <Mot> tristan is it supposed to be one file?
[04:04] <thezombiehunter> how the heck do i get my sound card to run Tzi u still here
[04:04] <oceandead> but im annoyed that i cant set up decent rules
[04:04] <Mot> mine isnt one file
[04:04] <tristanmike> Mot: no, what kind of harddrive? IDE, SATA, RAID?
[04:04] <oceandead> and that with firewall and loggin enabled ...nothing incoming gets logged...wtf
[04:04] <thezombiehunter> 3rd Step - This will allow you to configure the alsa source.
[04:04] <thezombiehunter>
[04:04] <thezombiehunter>
[04:04] <thezombiehunter> Quote:
[04:04] <thezombiehunter>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source, and say no to PnP, yes to debug, and choose the ca0106 driver
[04:04] <Mot> uhmmmmmmm
[04:04] <biscuit_> thezombiehunter: What kind of card?
[04:04] <Mot> ide i tihnk
[04:04] <thezombiehunter> sound blaster 24bit live
[04:05] <tristanmike> Mot: that shouldn't be the issue then
[04:05] <biscuit_> Hmmmm
[04:05] <thezombiehunter> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307&highlight=sound+blaster+24bit im trying that
[04:05] <Concord_Dawn> thezombiehunter, don't paste that again.
[04:05] <Concord_Dawn> paste in the pastebin.
[04:05] <Syco54645> i was wondering if there is a way that i can finalize a dvd that i made with a standalone one at the library at my uni.  since the library is closed tonight, i was wondering if there would be a way that i can safely finalize the dvd-rw disc so that i can read it in my drive.  i would prefer if it were with a command line tool because my drive is dead and i have been using the livecd for some time now
[04:05] <tristanmike> Mot: by chance, have you tried to burn the cd at a slower speed?
[04:05] <Mot> no
[04:05] <thezombiehunter> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: alsa-source, is not installed
[04:05] <thezombiehunter>  thats what it says on the 3ed step
[04:05] <bjweeks> then isstall it
[04:05] <bjweeks> duh?
[04:05] <Mot> why does the burn speed matter?
[04:05] <PurpleMotion> Hai, fsckers!
[04:06] <bjweeks> ^gay
[04:06] <thezombiehunter> well were do i get it lol
[04:06] <bjweeks> sudo apt-get install alsa-source
[04:06] <oceandead> ha
[04:06] <bjweeks> yes
[04:06] <PurpleMotion> bjweeks:  just out of idle curiosity, whats gay?
[04:06] <Mot> what burner do you guys use.. nero?
[04:06] <bjweeks> haha nero on ubuntu
[04:06] <thezombiehunter> its alredy there
[04:07] <thezombiehunter> thats why im going nuts here
[04:07] <oceandead> gnomebaker
[04:07] <zblach> Concord_Dawn, WMP54G
[04:07] <biscuit_> Do you have the headers thezombiehunter
[04:07] <tristanmike> Mot: Nero should be fine, but for ISO's in windows, I use Alcohol 120%
[04:07] <Mot> ok ill try that brb
[04:07] <oceandead> windows ...nero
[04:07] <Concord_Dawn> !tell zblach about ndiswrapper
[04:07] <zblach> tristanmike, try ISOBuster
[04:07] <Mot> where can i get  Alcohol 120%
[04:07] <thezombiehunter> sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source kernel-package i downloaded that from sudo
[04:07] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone help me with installing a JSP container for Apache2?
[04:07] <biscuit_> ohh ok
[04:07] <bjweeks> You have to pay for it
[04:07] <Concord_Dawn> !jsp
[04:07] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: I give up, what is it?
[04:07] <tristanmike> zblach, does ISOBuster give me a virtual drive?
[04:07] <zblach> tristanmike, no
[04:07] <PurpleMotion> jsp = java server pages
[04:08] <biscuit_> ISOBuster just kinda displays everything inside the iso and asks if you want to extrract it or not
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> PurpleMotion, yes.
[04:08] <tristanmike> zblach, that's why I like Alcohol, so I can just mount my ISO's
[04:08] <PurpleMotion> last i checked it's tomcat native and available as an apache mod, right?
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> I need a container for them in Apache.
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> nfi
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> there's a mod-jk2 in the repos.
[04:08] <thezombiehunter> biscuit_: sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source kernel-package
[04:08] <bjweeks> But 120% is not free
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> but it looks like I need tomcat4 installed
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> which I don't have in the repos.
[04:08] <PurpleMotion> Concord_Dawn:  have you considered tomcat?
[04:09] <Concord_Dawn> PurpleMotion, is there a repo for it?
[04:09] <tristanmike> ......well, alcohol120% was......
[04:09] <PurpleMotion> Concord_Dawn:  tomcat's available, holdon, ill dig it up
[04:09] <bjweeks> but that just for mounting right?
[04:09] <tristanmike> nevermind, lol
[04:09] <peaker> if a snd-X driver loads successfully, does it mean I really have the driver's supported hardware, or will it work even if I dont have such hardware?
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> hrmmm
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> it appears there isnt
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> wtf
[04:10] <crompton> i have an amd turion processor in my laptop, it is 64-bit, would it be wise of me to install the 64-bit ubuntu or keep with the 32-bit?
[04:10] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[04:10] <Concord_Dawn> that's what I thought.
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> holdon man, ill find it
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> or ill buuld you a deb
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> build
[04:10] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Sorry, got sidetracked =)
[04:11] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Hmm..
[04:11] <PurpleMotion> you know you can build a .deb file from any source package
[04:11] <Concord_Dawn> "_
[04:11] <Concord_Dawn> no
[04:11] <Concord_Dawn> I didn't.
[04:11] <PurpleMotion> yeah you can
[04:11] <PurpleMotion> heh
[04:11] <PurpleMotion> lemme find you a tutorial on that
[04:12] <PurpleMotion> then you can solve your own problem :) and perhaps you'll contribute it to the community
[04:12] <Tzi> zblach: How's it going?  I got sidetracked =)
[04:12] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, tell me about yourself
[04:12] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: nvm its working
[04:13] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: by working i mean i got past 3ed step
[04:13] <milksteak> hmmmm
[04:13] <milksteak> Concord Dawn
[04:13] <milksteak> good band
[04:13] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[04:13] <Concord_Dawn> can't find any of their songs though
[04:13] <milksteak> heh
[04:13] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: pm Alsa Source do i need to press No
[04:13] <milksteak> I have a few albums
[04:13] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: That's a start.. I'm still not convinced that alsa isn't already setup.. =)
[04:13] <milksteak> you from NZ
[04:13] <milksteak> ?
[04:13] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: I'm not sure..
[04:14] <PurpleMotion> Concord_Dawn:  watch ubotu
[04:14] <PurpleMotion> !pbuilder
[04:14] <ubotu> methinks pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[04:14] <thezombiehunter> TziL seting up..
[04:14] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: thezombiehunter@thezombiehunter:/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver$ cd .. && ls *.deb
[04:14] <thezombiehunter> ls: *.deb: No such file or directory
[04:14] <thezombiehunter> um..
[04:14] <skalpel> can someone tell me what this means? root     19568  0.0  0.2  14456   680 ?        Ss   20:29   0:00 sshd: bonnie [priv]
[04:14] <skalpel> bonnie   19571  0.0  0.4  14760  1092 ?        S    20:29   0:01 sshd: bonnie@notty
[04:14] <PurpleMotion> but that might even be a little more than you need
[04:14] <peaker> it seems sound support is the #1 ubuntu issue isn't it?
[04:14] <reiki> is there an app that shows a graphic representation of disk space used?
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  mine works fine
[04:15] <darkheart> peaker Mine works fine as well.
[04:15] <Concord_Dawn> thanks PurpleMotion
[04:15] <remyforbes777>   is there a amd 64 bit version of Debian?
[04:15] <remyforbes777> that works?
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> yes
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> well
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> sorta
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> heh
[04:15] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: damn it its messin up
[04:15] <cafuego> skalpel: means bonnie logged in via ssh
[04:15] <remyforbes777> sorta?
[04:15] <EasterSunshine> reiki: konqueror has a file size view that shows files and folders in a size proportional to how much space they take up
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> i mean it mostly works
[04:16] <cafuego> skalpel: 'last -d bonnie'
[04:16] <PurpleMotion> and they're adding more to it every day
[04:16] <EasterSunshine> reiki: if that is what you are looking for, it helps to find what is taking up most of the room in any part of your local filesystems
[04:16] <reiki> EasterSunshine: konqueror = KDE?
[04:16] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: were the heck is my system preferences Multimedia system selectors in Kubuntu
[04:16] <peaker> PurpleMotion, darkheart: I've spent the last many hours trying to get mine to work :-(  took me a lot of time to realize how udev mutilated /dev into a complex beast, and I cant get an alsa driver to recognize my card despite the docs saying it should :(
[04:16] <skabble> cafuego, should the user be root? or is that just part of the whole ubuntu thing
[04:16] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Somewhere in kcontrol, I assume =)
[04:16] <remyforbes777> hmmmm
[04:16] <EasterSunshine> reiki: yes konqueror is part of kde, anything that starts with k is usually kde
[04:16] <remyforbes777> i just bought a new amd turion lap
[04:17] <remyforbes777> wanted to get a 64 bit distro on there
[04:17] <cafuego> skabble: sshd needs to be root so it can 1) listen on port 22 and 2) check the password.
[04:17] <reiki> EasterSunshine: : anything for gnome?
[04:17] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  are you loading the right module for your soundcard?
[04:17] <milksteak> hmmm
[04:17] <skabble> cafuego, thank you very much. what do pts/1,2,3 etc mean?
[04:17] <milksteak> Konqueror runs on Gnome
[04:17] <cafuego> skabble: Do you see how pid 19571 is NOT root?
[04:17] <milksteak> as far as I know
[04:17] <reiki> ahh... okies
[04:17] <remyforbes777> wanted it to be debian based
[04:17] <EasterSunshine> reiki: you can run konqueror on gnome but you'll have to install all the kde libs. otherwise, i have never used gnome so i don't know
[04:17] <peaker> PurpleMotion: some googling says that for my card (Intel high definition) needs the snd-azx module.. I load it successfully but the dev files say no such device
[04:17] <skabble> cafuego, yeah, i am just wondering if they are connected at all
[04:17] <PurpleMotion> milksteak:  and xp runs on a p-2 233, that doesnt mean you should do it
[04:17] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: is there a way to uninstall all that then reinstall?
[04:17] <remyforbes777> i tried Ubuntu amd 64 bit but it freezes when booting
[04:18] <cafuego> skabble: 'ps auxww | grep bonnie'
[04:18] <peaker> PurpleMotion: dmesg seems to mention that azx loaded without finding any hardware, but its hardly a readable message so I am not sure of that
[04:18] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  show me the message
[04:19] <peaker> ALSA /usr/src/deb/alsa-driver-1.0.8/pci/azx/hda_codec.c:416:hda_codec: no AFG node found
[04:19] <peaker> ALSA /usr/src/deb/alsa-driver-1.0.8/pci/azx/azx.c:782:azx: no codecs initialized
[04:19] <skabble> cafuego, root     19568  0.0  0.2  14456   680 ?        Ss   20:29   0:00 sshd: bonnie [priv]
[04:19] <skabble> bonnie   19571  0.0  0.4  14760  1092 ?        S    20:29   0:02 sshd: bonnie@notty
[04:19] <skabble> bonnie   19572  0.0  0.3   3348   860 ?        Ss   20:29   0:00 /usr/lib/sftp-server
[04:19] <cafuego> skabble: Ah, bonnie is copying data via sftp
[04:20] <peaker> PurpleMotion: The ubuntu alsa deb did not come with azx at all I had to apt-get source and build it myself... debian/rules binary doesn't seem to build any driver, so I had to resort to using configure/make/make-install
[04:20] <skalpel> cafuego, i see that :)
[04:20] <cafuego> skalpel: is bonnie a user you created, who is allwed to log in?
[04:20] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  that doesnt tell me anything about hardware, that tells me that no codecs are present on your syste,.. try: apt-get source -b package-name
[04:20] <skapple> yes, she is
[04:20] <cafuego> skalpel: no problems then
[04:20] <PurpleMotion> it will auto-build the package after downloading
[04:21] <PurpleMotion> i had the same problem with the mplayer source, and thats how i fixed it
[04:21] <Mot> should i get  Alcohol 120% or 50%
[04:21] <peaker> PurpleMotion: But codecs in this context probably means codecs required to communicate with the hardware, doesn't it?
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> i would imagine
[04:22] <ray_> has anyone installed the ati drivers from their site?
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> try building it as i said :)
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> it might work
[04:22] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> Ice9:  watch ubotu
[04:22] <peaker> PurpleMotion: And after installing snd-azx into kernel, /dev/asound and /dev/dsp (after installing snd-pcm-oss too ofcourse) still cause "no such device" so I assume snd-azx failed to find the hardware
[04:22] <ray_> Ice9, thats the old one huh
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> !ati
[04:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:22] <peaker> PurpleMotion: ya I will thanks
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> i got a 9250 and it runs great
[04:23] <ray_> PurpleMotion, with fglrx?
[04:23] <Ice9> I've tried that, it doesn't work
[04:23] <PurpleMotion> yessir
[04:23] <Ice9> I've done so many thigns lol
[04:23] <skapple> how do i enable multiple connections on my computer?
[04:23] <PurpleMotion> fglrx                 246716  7
[04:24] <PurpleMotion> then you're missing a step, plain and simple
[04:24] <ray_> Ice9, did you.....apt-get install fglrx....then change xorg.conf...only that one part
[04:24] <Ice9> if thats what the guide says..
[04:24] <PurpleMotion> you also have to load the fglrx module and put it in /etc/modules.conf
[04:24] <PurpleMotion> if you followed the guide, it would work.
[04:24] <Ice9> :/
[04:24] <ray_> PurpleMotion, i didnt have to.......? weird
[04:24] <PurpleMotion> ray_:  I did
[04:25] <ray_> brb
[04:25] <StrikeForce1> #fedora-mktg
[04:25] <Chiacomo> I've got some total noob questions... Anyone up for it?
[04:25] <StrikeForce1> woops
[04:25] <peaker> PurpleMotion: It seems that apt-get -b source  simply runs debian/rules binary, it doesn't build any drivers :-(
[04:25] <EasterSunshine> chiacomo: just ask. that's what we're here for
[04:26] <PurpleMotion> ray_, Ice9: i originally built and installed the latest at drivers from ati's package. The i saw the wiki, and decided to try it. I got it to work that way as well.. but I have since reinstalled the ati drivers because they are a little more current and considerably faster
[04:26] <Chiacomo> EasterSunshine: Thanks...
[04:26] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  ah.. you're beyond my scope, im afraid.. but someone here surely can help you, just stick around and toss your question every so often till soemone who knows how to fix it sees it
[04:27] <peaker> PurpleMotion: I'll just not use a deb for this for now (Yeah its messy but it should work :)  I'll try alsa 0.9 from source and see if it works better
[04:27] <Chiacomo> A good friend of mine recomended kubuntu for a desktop/general computing machine at my home (rather than slackware)... I'd never considered linux as a desktop operating system (for home use)... Seems very cool... I'm having trouble with sound.
[04:27] <PurpleMotion> it's not so messy :)
[04:27] <PurpleMotion> I don't mind installing from source at all
[04:27] <Chiacomo> Now, I'm trying this out on a terribly old Dell GX1so I'm not surprised I have not sound... Any clues on drivers, etc? Where should I start?
[04:28] <thezombiehunter_> Tzi: bash: alsa-modules-2.6.10-4-k7_1.0.8-4ubuntu1_i386.deb: command not found
[04:28] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  show me the output of: lsmod | grep snd
[04:28] <biscuit__> Chiacomo: What kinda card
[04:28] <Chiacomo> ... the "card" is probably on-board... Rather than a sepereate card.
[04:29] <biscuit__> thezombiehunter_:Its either a typo or you may have to"dig-in" to find the package
[04:29] <biscuit__> Oh ok
[04:29] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  also show me the output of: dmesg | grep -i audio
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> thezombiehunter@thezombiehunter:/usr/src/modules$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> dpkg: error processing *.deb (--install):
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_>  *.deb
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> thezombiehunter@thezombiehunter:/usr/src/modules$
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> right
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> sould i just reinstall linux?
[04:29] <biscuit__> Chiacomo: Do you have an Intel Motherboard
[04:30] <Chiacomo> biscuit__: Yeah, I'm sure...
[04:30] <biscuit__> Ok
[04:30] <PurpleMotion> thezombiehunter:  no, you should do: apt-get -f install
[04:30] <thezombiehunter_> what is it
[04:30] <biscuit__> Chiacomo: I have one too, but i just can't get alsaconf or alsamixer to open
[04:30] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  have you seen anything i have said to you?
[04:30] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: Yeah...
[04:30] <peaker> PurpleMotion: You're a fan of Future Crew, btw? :)
[04:31] <PurpleMotion> could you please show me the output of those two commands?
[04:31] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: Nothing from either grep... Hrm... I suppose that's bad.
[04:31] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  means your onboard sound is disabled, try going into the bios and checking to see if it's not disabled there.
[04:31] <skapple> why can't i make multiple ssh connections on my computer
[04:31] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  no, but that's where i got the name
[04:31] <Chiacomo> Hrm... Rebooting...
[04:31] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: So, should detect something if sound is turned on, right?
[04:32] <PurpleMotion> should, yeah
[04:32] <Chiacomo> Great.. Back in a few...
[04:32] <PurpleMotion> might have to 'reset configuration data' in your bios
[04:32] <PurpleMotion> hope he saw that
[04:32] <PurpleMotion> could have saved him a reboot
[04:32] <biscuit__> PurpleMotion: Can I give you my output onthat first thing you said, the second won't give anything out.
[04:32] <thezombiehunter_>  apt-get -f install
[04:32] <thezombiehunter_> what is that
[04:32] <PurpleMotion> yeah, do it in msg
[04:33] <PurpleMotion> thezombiehunter:  it fixes broken installs
[04:33] <thezombiehunter_> thks
[04:33] <PurpleMotion> biscuit__:  regular msg please
[04:33] <biscuit__> Ummmm
[04:33] <OCA|> Does the latest Ubuntu live cd support writing to NTFS disks? And is NTFS writing safe yet? (I remember in the past it was dangerous at best)
[04:33] <biscuit__> How do i do that :-/
[04:33] <dabaR> Greetings...
[04:33] <miguel> can someone tell me a good divx player for ubuntu plz?
[04:33] <thezombiehunter_>  sudo  apt-get -f install
[04:33] <thezombiehunter_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:33] <thezombiehunter_> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:33] <thezombiehunter_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 34 not upgraded.
[04:33] <biscuit__> Im new with IRC ever since moving to Windows
[04:33] <zerboxx> Is anyone here very comfortable with perl programming?
[04:34] <i4> PurpleMotion: is there a way to enable multiple ssh conenctions on my computer/
[04:34] <i4> ?
[04:34] <i4> dabaR: you can answer that if you want :)
[04:35] <dabaR> you can have multiple connections as soon as you install the server.
[04:35] <zerboxx> I need help figuring out what is going wrong with a perl script, does anyone mind giving me a hand?
[04:35] <i4> dabaR: k, i have ssh installed.
[04:35] <dabaR> i4: k, go all out with the connections...recursively!
[04:35] <sambagirl> why so many processes running this is redicullous.
[04:36] <i4> dabaR: huh
[04:36] <Tzi> miguel: xine =) apt-get install xine-ui
[04:36] <Mot> anyone know of a free iso burner?
[04:36] <miguel> Tzi: thanx
[04:36] <Tzi> Mot: Nautilus? =)
[04:36] <umboto> has anyone been able to install the nvidia nforce drivers on unbuntu?
[04:36] <Tzi> Mot: k3b is a good cd burner too, will also burn isos
[04:37] <umboto> Mot,  gnome baker
[04:37] <Tzi> Mot: I'd be surprised if you found a non-free iso burner =)
[04:37] <Mot> lol which one is better :-D
[04:37] <Tzi> umboto: Mine just work.. They're in linux-restricted-modules
[04:37] <Tzi> Mot: k3b is better =)
[04:37] <Tzi> Mot: gnome baker doesn't allow overburning
[04:37] <Mot> wahts the website
[04:37] <umboto> yea but i think im having conflicting issues with my audio
[04:37] <Tzi> Mot: apt-get install k3b :P
[04:37] <biscuit__> Veritas on Windows is the most unstubborn
[04:37] <Tzi> umboto: Really?  Is it an nforce?
[04:38] <umboto> yea
[04:38] <dabaR> i4, I mean, you can go ahead and connect more than once..and recursively means therough one ssh session to your computer, make another one, and so on till infinity.
[04:38] <umboto> i get like freezes
[04:38] <c0rrupt_> ubotu, alsa
[04:38] <Tzi> umboto: Tricky =) Have you trawled ubuntuforums and google?
[04:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:38] <umboto> but it happens on random
[04:38] <umboto> wheni play music
[04:38] <umboto> alsa?
[04:38] <Mot> tzi , wats the site?
[04:38] <umboto> c0rrupt_,  what about alsa?
[04:38] <umboto> oops
[04:38] <umboto> you were talking to someone else
[04:38] <umboto> haha
[04:39] <zerboxx> dabar: I've posted it somewhere else too "http://sial.org/pbot/12581"
[04:39] <Tzi> Mot: I dunno, just google it =)
[04:40] <EasterSunshine> hey where is that n00b i said i would help...? oh well...
[04:40] <c0rrupt_> nothing, i just hate how i can only use sound on 1 program at a time..
[04:40] <PurpleMotion> c0rrupt_:  buy a better sound card ;)
[04:40] <umboto> i think i have the same problem c0rrupt_
[04:40] <c0rrupt_> i thought thats all alsa can do
[04:40] <peaker> PurpleMotion: It works! :)  Alsa 1.0.9 supports my card okay
[04:40] <c0rrupt_> you cant have more..
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> ..can you?
[04:41] <umboto> my pc can only handle one sound process at a time
[04:41] <umboto> if i do two...i freeze
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> yea
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> i dont freeze..
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> it just doesnt work
[04:41] <umboto> i freeze :-/
[04:41] <EasterSunshine> you guys need to read up on sound servers
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> alsa only supports 1 process at a time..
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> o.0
[04:41] <Mot> hey k3b is only for linux?
[04:41] <umboto> i c
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> thats what ive heard
[04:41] <Mot> i dont see a windows installer
[04:41] <umboto> why dont you use esd?
[04:42] <c0rrupt_> 0.o
[04:42] <oceandead> heh
[04:42] <c0rrupt_> EasterSunshine... is there any fix?
[04:42] <umboto> i wouldn't mind compling my own nforce drivers, but it says that it can't find the kernel-sources, even though i downloaded them
[04:42] <umboto> through the snaptic package thingy
[04:42] <umboto> i don't know where it installed it too
[04:42] <c0rrupt_> go to /usr/src
[04:43] <EasterSunshine> c0rrupt: i dunno, but i can run multiple sound processes just fine
[04:43] <c0rrupt_> hmm
[04:43] <umboto> hmm ill check
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> !chroot
[04:43] <ubotu> nomasteryoda|w: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:43] <c0rrupt_> easter is just lucky
[04:43] <c0rrupt_> ill ask seveas later..
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> !ubotu, that's not funny
[04:43] <ubotu> nomasteryoda|w: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:43] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  think i could get true full duplex support if i installed alsa froms ource?
[04:43] <dabaR> zerboxx: asked on #perl?
[04:43] <zerboxx> dabaR: Yup :)
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> how can i use chroot to restory my kernel to /boot ...
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> ??
[04:44] <i4> dabaR: ah i see, i do not think i will do that though.
[04:44] <i4> dabar: i'm sure it would become unsafe
[04:44] <Mot> whats a good free iso burner for windows
[04:44] <Mot> ?
[04:44] <dabaR> zerboxx: dont tell me those freaks dont knowit?
[04:44] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  any luck, m8?
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> Mot, cdrecord
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[04:44] <dabaR> i4, there is no reason for it to,..but, it was a joke.
[04:44] <Mot> wats the site
[04:44] <zerboxx> dabaR: I have no idea what they're saying :D
[04:44] <OCA|> I'm looking for a filesystem that is supported (safely) in Linux and Windows, is relitively reliable, and has support for large files (50+ gigs). Does such a beast exist?
[04:44] <dabaR> heh, but they are speaking in english?
[04:44] <dabaR> fat.
[04:45] <peaker> PurpleMotion: An alsa upgrade is full of possibilities, and since there's no deb of 1.0.9, the answer must be ya
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> Mot, its a GPL recorder that is in Linux....you have Google, right?
[04:45] <dabaR> heh
[04:45] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: Okey... Sound is enabled... But when KDE starts, I get an error that says "Error when initializing sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such file or directory)"
[04:45] <dabaR> sorry, never read to the eng.
[04:45] <Mot> ya but
[04:45] <dabaR> eend
[04:45] <concept10> OCA|, fat32
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> I guess I need to google for chroot too
[04:45] <Mot> i have windows
[04:45] <Mot> not linux
[04:45] <umboto> one thing that sucked about ubuntu, was that i couldn't burn cds, then thanks the help here, i installed the extra repos and installed cdrdao
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> Mot, google works on windows too
[04:45] <umboto> and now i have no probs
[04:45] <OCA|> concept10: fat32 has a 4 gig file size limit I thought?
[04:45] <Mot> i no lol
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> just google win32 cdrecord
[04:45] <Syco54645> so when does breezy come out?
[04:45] <Mot> ... but you said its in linux
[04:45] <umboto> i should stuck with freebsd
[04:46] <nomasteryoda|w> Mot, its available for both
[04:46] <umboto> :-/
[04:46] <concept10> OCA|, files bigger than 4gb, I dont know.
[04:46] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils
[04:46] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[04:46] <concept10> umboto, dont troll
[04:46] <umboto> sorry
[04:46] <Concord_Dawn> !fonts
[04:46] <ubotu> I heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[04:46] <umboto> "YHBT!"
[04:46] <OCA|> ...
[04:46] <OCA|> !sex
[04:46] <ubotu> OCA|: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:47] <OCA|> ... damn
[04:47] <umboto> you have been tr0LL3d
[04:47] <umboto> jk jk
[04:47] <rob_p> zerboxx:  You could change the, "$playing = `mpc`;" to something like, "$playing = `mpc | cut -d '-' -f2`;" and give it a shot.  This would only work if the naming convention always has a, "-" between the band name and the song title.
[04:47] <concept10> OCA|, what do you need files larger than 50 gigs for?
[04:47] <Mot> wtf i cant find the cd record website
[04:47] <Mot> lol
[04:47] <dabaR> OCA|: .....:)
[04:47] <MrGardenHoseMan> is there any way to bind ctrl+alt+del to system manager?
[04:47] <zerboxx> rob_p: yup, always!
[04:47] <MrGardenHoseMan> i mean system monitor
[04:48] <OCA|> concept10: I'm taking the brute force method to hard drive backup = dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/usbhd basically
[04:48] <umboto> MrGardenHoseMan,  its on the unoffical faqs on the wiki
[04:48] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[04:48] <umboto> you can set ctrl alt delte to gnome system processes thingy
[04:48] <umboto> its pretty cool
[04:48] <gsanse> Does anybody know how can I enable a different user login in the xcreensaver locked screen message?
[04:48] <umboto> i tried doing the splash screen thing for grub, but i thinkn i messed up
[04:48] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: It asked me to choose one of three options (always autosave, autosave once, and never save)... Then it ran for a second and returned me to a prompt.. What now?
[04:49] <dabaR> umboto: two months from now, it will be standard ubuntu.
[04:49] <concept10> OCA|, maybe you could use ext3, there is support for windows soemwhere
[04:49] <dabaR> Hi, leader!
[04:49] <umboto> dabaR,  thats awesome!
[04:49] <EasterSunshine> oh no i odn't want a splash screen
[04:49] <dabaR> its ok...:-/...tell me the practical use of that thing, please.
[04:49] <OCA|> concept10: I found an ext2 driver, but I'm a bit nervous about it (version 0.26?)
[04:49] <Mot> wats a good / free iso burner for windows
[04:49] <EasterSunshine> i can disable it right? i want ugly grey letters on black bg
[04:49] <dabaR> Do I ever boot? rarely...
[04:49] <umboto> Mot,  how about isobuster?
[04:49] <umboto> wait no
[04:49] <dabaR> do I care about a picture, not for sure.
[04:49] <umboto> uh...
[04:50] <umboto> thinking
[04:50] <EasterSunshine> i haven't booted since july but still
[04:50] <umboto> dvddecrypter
[04:50] <concept10> OCA|, meybe you should find another backup method
[04:50] <umboto> its free
[04:50] <umboto> and it burns isos
[04:50] <umboto> i got it off of doom9.org
[04:50] <Mot> k
[04:50] <umboto> but why do you speak of win32 in this chan
[04:50] <umboto> it is forbidden
[04:50] <OCA|> concept10: I'm hoping to just do it this way to minimize cost and downtime, but if I can't find a reliable way to do this, then I will try to find another way.
[04:50] <concept10> because its not the topic
[04:50] <EasterSunshine> doze is unwelcomed here
[04:51] <umboto> lets lynch him!
[04:51] <EasterSunshine> lets give him a +q
[04:51] <umboto> jk jk
[04:51] <jayeola> no umboto : reboot him
[04:51] <Mot> is it also called dvdfab decrypter
[04:51] <jeffrae> Hello
[04:51] <umboto> haha jayeola
[04:51] <Spudchat> does anyone know how to convert wma to mp3 in ubuntu?
[04:51] <umboto> Spudchat,  why would you
[04:51] <MrPockets> ask the file nicley
[04:51] <dabaR> hey jeffrae
[04:51] <jeffrae> has anyone here upgradede their GhostScript package on ubuntu?
[04:51] <umboto> ogg is free and better
[04:51] <Mot> wats ogg
[04:51] <Spudchat> for a friend of mine
[04:52] <umboto> ogg vorbis
[04:52] <umboto> better quality
[04:52] <EasterSunshine> microsoft doesn't want people to change out of wma, those losters
[04:52] <EasterSunshine> losers*
[04:52] <oceandead> flac is better :P
[04:52] <Mot> wait for iso burning?
[04:52] <dabaR> Spudchat: googled?
[04:52] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: Sorry to be a bother, but what now? I'm returned to a prompt after choosing always autosave...
[04:52] <umboto> flac creates HUGE Files
[04:52] <oceandead> flac is lossless
[04:52] <jeffrae> ogg flac is lossless
[04:52] <jeffrae> oops
[04:52] <zerboxx> rob_p: Blank like it was before
[04:52] <umboto> you can set quality for ogg at 1.0 and get the quality
[04:52] <jeffrae> floc is lossless
[04:52] <jeffrae> sorry about the ogg part
[04:52] <dabaR> dont forget to floss!
[04:52] <jeffrae> flac
[04:53] <oceandead> hehehe
[04:53] <EasterSunshine> anyone knows what is quality of ogg that i got from audiocd:/Ogg Vorbis/ ?
[04:53] <requiem_> !repositoires
[04:53] <ubotu> requiem_: I don't know
[04:53] <EasterSunshine> !repos
[04:53] <jeffrae> Mr prnter requires ghostscript 5.51
[04:53] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:53] <requiem_> !mirrors
[04:53] <ubotu> requiem_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:53] <MrPockets> does Ubuntu have a equivilent to MS paint?
[04:53] <Spudchat> do i have lame by default?
[04:53] <jeffrae> My Printer requires ghostscript 8.51, but ubuntu only has 7.x
[04:53] <requiem_> EasterSunshine, thanks
[04:53] <EasterSunshine> mrpockets: gimp
[04:53] <Spudchat> it says its neede
[04:53] <Pechorin> MrPockets, gimp might be an overkill... try www.gnomefiles.org
[04:53] <OCA|> MrPockets: No, but it has a photoshot equivilent (Gimp).... (I would assume)
[04:53] <jeffrae> gimp is better
[04:53] <oceandead> why would anyone want ms paint equiv when you got the gimp
[04:54] <jeffrae> but gimp is overkill
[04:54] <EasterSunshine> mrpockets: acutally gimp is more like a run down photoshop. do you know about wine? you can use it to run mspaint on linux
[04:54] <Pechorin> oceandead, if you need something that loads faster? :)
[04:54] <dabaR> Spudchat: to find out whether a package is installed, you can use synaptic, or aptitude. eve apt probably, but thats deprecated.
[04:54] <dabaR> Spudchat: used synaptic?
[04:54] <dabaR> ever, and that...
[04:54] <umboto> ogg vs flac
[04:54] <oceandead> Pechorin, point taken
[04:54] <umboto> which is better?
[04:54] <OCA|> Run down photoshop? I've been forced to use Photoshop the past 9 months and I would LOVE to go back to the gimp, lool
[04:54] <umboto> it is like chicken vs beef
[04:54] <umboto> ?
[04:54] <jeffrae> My Printer requires ghostscript 8.51, but ubuntu only has 7.x  has anyone ever upgraded their ghostscript package?
[04:54] <Pechorin> oceandead, though I do agree that gimp is great, of course
[04:55] <EasterSunshine> photoshop is a demon to throw into wine...anyone successful?
[04:55] <dabaR> jeffrae: where did you learn it needs that?
[04:55] <EasterSunshine> photoshop cs2, that is. i heard few ppl have success with it
[04:55] <jeffrae> from howtos
[04:55] <oceandead> agreed, youre right about the loading time though ...especially since prelink isnt recommended
[04:55] <rob_p> zerboxx:  hmm... seems to work here!
[04:55] <jeffrae> They said that the the problem I am having with the pcl driver
[04:55] <jeffrae> is fixed in 8.51
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> anyone know how>... chroot restore kernel?
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> sorry to keep asking
[04:56] <dabaR> howtos on where?
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> i dorked up my /boot
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> so kernel is not there now
[04:56] <jeffrae> well not a howto, but someone elses personal experiance
[04:56] <dabaR> nomasteryoda|w: stop asking already;) just ask...
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> :/
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[04:56] <jeffrae> I am having the sale problem he did untill he upgraded
[04:56] <jeffrae> my prints are shifted down and to the left like .5"
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> well, i asked, but no one replied
[04:56] <dabaR> well, what is the issue? from the forums some advice?
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> is kernel same on Live disk?
[04:57] <dabaR> I had that same thing, I remember that.
[04:57] <jeffrae> My printer asks to load aper after each job too... He claims 8.51 fixed that for him too
[04:57] <nomasteryoda|w> i saw a suggestion to chroot then just use the tools from installed disc to put new kernel onto ./boot
[04:57] <dabaR> jeffrae: is this a package, Ghostscript?
[04:58] <EasterSunshine> if(japanese_kubuntu == sexy)return TRUE; >>> TRUE
[04:58] <jeffrae> yes
[04:58] <ironuckles> hey all
[04:58] <jeffrae> you never heard of Ghostscript?
[04:58] <biscuit__> Where do I get the ALSA source at?
[04:58] <jeffrae> I thought everyone has
[04:58] <biscuit__> Like the exact URL
[04:58] <EasterSunshine> hello ironuckles, you appear to be missing two letters in your nick
[04:58] <jeffrae> gs-emp
[04:58] <thezombiehunter> my freekin sound card JUST WONT WORK ON LINUX THE ONLY ONE IT DID WORK ON WAS SUSE 9.3 PRO
[04:59] <ofer0> what is ubuntu`s lates kernel ?
[04:59] <ironuckles> EasterSunshine, i created this nick back in the day when AIM only let you have 10 characters
[04:59] <dabaR> biscuit__: you can likely get it from the repos.
[04:59] <EasterSunshine> ironuckles: wow you are old
[04:59] <fish> how do I set my ubuntu to always compile i686
[04:59] <peaker> dabaR: Unless you want the 1.0.9 version..
[04:59] <ironuckles> EasterSunshine, if 20 is old, then yes :-P
[04:59] <EasterSunshine> ironuckles: in that case you are over twice as old as i am...
[04:59] <thezombiehunter> i think ill just leave linux =/ nothing works here.
[05:00] <zerboxx> rob_p: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1380 is that the code you have?
[05:00] <ironuckles> EasterSunshine, what are you, one of those 'gifted' kids?
[05:00] <ofer0> thezombiehunter, cya
[05:00] <ofer0> thezombiehunter, sound like a cry for help
[05:00] <ofer0> *sounds
[05:00] <fish> I need to compile apt for i686 to take advantage of my pentium
[05:00] <EasterSunshine> ironuckles: this is horribly off topic, but i have a friend who ran an aim server, and logged in with a screename 480 chars long
[05:00] <thezombiehunter> dude i was just kddin, im just pissed ubuntu doesnt have built in support for sb live 24 bit
[05:00] <ironuckles> EasterSunshine, thats sweet
[05:00] <thezombiehunter> well Kubuntu anyway
[05:00] <fish> its compiling at i386 when I apt-get source -b apt
[05:01] <desrt> thezombiehunter; sblive24 is an awful card
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> no kidding
[05:01] <desrt> thezombiehunter; if you just bought it i recommend taking it back while you still can
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> my mic wont even work with it
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> i have a built in sound
[05:01] <razor7> hello...
[05:01] <EasterSunshine> ironuckles: i'm not gifted...
[05:01] <desrt> thezombiehunter; i was duped into buying one... it went back as soon as i discovered that it's not even vaguely the same card as a normal sblive
[05:01] <razor7> any idea on how to re enable root normal mode
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> lol
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> oh yea
[05:01] <ironuckles> EasterSunshine: nor am i
[05:01] <desrt> razor7; sudo passwd root
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> i have a huge problem
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> im running a server on ubuntu
[05:02] <thezombiehunter> CSS
[05:02] <desrt> razor7; but you should really try sudo out.  it's nice.
[05:02] <thezombiehunter> my freinds a coder, he sorta...destroyed...the root account
[05:02] <thezombiehunter> its server only
[05:02] <razor7> ok...wit this i can do login: root?
[05:02] <thezombiehunter> so how do i fix that
[05:02] <Concord_Dawn> HOLY SHIT.
[05:02] <ofer0> NetSplit
[05:02] <Concord_Dawn> yup
[05:02] <nomasteryoda|w> yikes
[05:02] <desrt> razor7; no.  you login as a normal user
[05:02] <Concord_Dawn> wait...
[05:02] <desrt> razor7; and use sudo to do root commands
[05:02] <desrt> !rootsudo
[05:02] <ubotu> [rootsudo]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:02] <razor7> yes...but i want to restore the root account
[05:03] <desrt> read that
[05:03] <dabaR> use irssi, it doesnt even show people that left almost....
[05:03] <ofer0> razor7, ROOT account should not be used
[05:03] <dabaR> 22:02 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: njan, letme0ut, budluva, Yvonne, athlon, Davey|Work, cronstadt, StrikeForce1, zblach, vitriol,  (+31 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all
[05:03] <dabaR> is the line I got.
[05:03] <razor7> because I need this for college
[05:03] <razor7> tryed Debian but Ubuntu is better
[05:03] <thezombiehunter> desrt: A. how the hell do i fix the root account on my other computer which my scripter destroyed, its council only, B. how would i reconfigure the sound for my on board card when i take out sblive24bit C. how do i add more port range forwarding to my linksys router
[05:03] <ironuckles> brb
[05:04] <razor7> but ubuntu has no root functionality
[05:04] <ofer0> dabaR, nice... :)
[05:04] <dabaR> razor7: consider sudo, and read that page, it will tell you how to turn on the root.
[05:04] <razor7> and i want it back...jejeje
[05:04] <ofer0> razor7, sudo <command>
[05:04] <razor7> thanks
[05:04] <desrt> thezombiehunter; i don't have enough details to answer any of those questions
[05:04] <desrt> thezombiehunter; except for C which is pretty easy.. it's under "applications"
[05:04] <alie> razor7, sudo passwd root
[05:04] <alie> change the passwd ;)
[05:04] <thezombiehunter> desrt: um...link plz
[05:05] <desrt> thezombiehunter; huh?
[05:05] <desrt> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ ?
[05:05] <thezombiehunter> deset: u said its under Applications
[05:05] <thezombiehunter> deset: i ran out of em
[05:05] <desrt> thezombiehunter; in the router config
[05:05] <ironuckles> has anyone used Cedega? (gaming under linux)
[05:05] <desrt> thezombiehunter; oh.  shrug.
[05:05] <thezombiehunter> desrt: nope i ran out of port range forwarding
[05:05] <desrt> thezombiehunter; free some up?
[05:06] <desrt> thezombiehunter; consolidate some?  use the misnamed "DMZ" feature?
[05:06] <thezombiehunter> desrt: no chance, as a matter of fact i need more.
[05:06] <requiem_> !repos
[05:06] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:06] <thezombiehunter> desrt: anyway im getting rid of SBLIVE24bit, so wtf do i do to get back onboard sound for linux
[05:06] <dabaR> higgling is such a cool word.
[05:06] <dabaR> u
[05:07] <thezombiehunter> dabar...i know u..
[05:07] <dabaR> I know you too.
[05:07] <thezombiehunter> lol
[05:07] <thezombiehunter> yea
[05:07] <thezombiehunter> who am i then lol
[05:07] <dabaR> You dont want me to tell you.
[05:07] <thezombiehunter> *sunrex/darksoul*
[05:07] <DekaPink> Woot... Breezy Colony 3 Live works. :D
[05:08] <dabaR> DekaPink: checked out the bootsplash?
[05:08] <james_> I just installed ubuntu, i've never used it before, what do I use for anti virus and spyware?
[05:08] <razor7> hey guys...how to disable automatic login?
[05:08] <DekaPink> dabaR, Er... It didn't have one that I noticed? :3
[05:08] <oceandead> ah ...
[05:08] <razor7> i mean gdm asking me for username and pass
[05:08] <dabaR> razor7: your gdm, the graphical login signs you in automatically?
[05:09] <oceandead> you wont get any spyware
[05:09] <razor7> yep...
[05:09] <razor7> is possible to disable this?
[05:09] <james_> what about viruses?
[05:09] <dabaR> DekaPink: search on the forums, for breezy colony 3.
[05:09] <oceandead> clamav for antivirus
[05:09] <thezombiehunter> u know i think linux is great compaired to windows...but i really wish they had more built in support...hey i got a firewall for linux today, i go on the ubuntu forums...and im attacked by tons of serious viruses..wtf is up with that
[05:09] <dabaR> razor7: yes, off course. So you want it to ask you for a user name and password?
[05:09] <requiem_> why doesn't smbfs come in the repositories ?
[05:10] <rob^> thezombiehunter, normal internet traffic
[05:10] <thezombiehunter> lol
[05:10] <dabaR> requiem_: cause you dont have the right repo enabled.
[05:10] <alie> razor7, System->administration->login screen setup
[05:10] <requiem_> dabaR, what is the file, and what is the right repo ?
[05:10] <requiem_> may I ask ?
[05:10] <requiem_> is it an official ?
[05:10] <DekaPink> So far, my only complaint is that it doesn't seem to like my mouse and refuses to make use of the wheel.
[05:11] <razor7> thanks
[05:11] <dabaR> requiem_: the file is whatever I dont know that, they have long names, aptitude search smbfs, requiem_ .
[05:11] <oceandead> xorg might not have picked it up right
[05:12] <dabaR> DekaPink: that is a complaint? it is unstable, in develoment. Also...submit a bug.
[05:12] <dabaR> DekaPink: also, check out the splash.
[05:12] <requiem_> dabaR, I use synaptic, isn't it the same thing ?
[05:13] <dabaR> requiem_: yes, it happens to be. Is the file there?
[05:13] <dabaR> smbfs.
[05:13] <dabaR> Use the search function.
[05:13] <requiem_> dabaR, nope
[05:13] <Concord_Dawn> yay
[05:13] <requiem_> I tried that
[05:13] <Concord_Dawn> netjoin!
[05:14] <oceandead> enable sroll events from wheel mouse .... (not sure what line to add to xorg.conf though)
[05:14] <oceandead>         Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5" ?
[05:14] <requiem_> oceandead, button "4 5"
[05:14] <dabaR> ok, well, add the repos. have you looked on the wiki about adding repos?
[05:14] <requiem_> that
[05:14] <juansebas> hello, does anyone have experience installing eclipse on ubuntu?
[05:14] <DekaPink> dabaR, not so much a complaint as an observation. ^^ Just sayin'... and I wouldn't know how to go about working the splash on the live CD. :3
[05:14] <requiem_> dabaR, sure
[05:15] <dabaR> DekaPink: neither would I, that is why I referenced the forums.
[05:15] <dabaR> requiem_: go add all repos, then update or refresh its called in synaptic, and then search, it will be there.
[05:15] <dabaR> requiem_: let me teach you one thing.
[05:16] <requiem_> dabaR, k
[05:17] <requiem_> dabaR, thanks
[05:17] <dabaR> requiem_: /msg ubotu info package name tells you whether ubuntu hass a package. try it out, /msg ubotu info smbfs. Also, your nick has to be registered, so /msg nickserv help register to learn how, if you are not registered.
[05:17] <Jack-Ho> hey
[05:17] <Jack-Ho> my cd \ dvd drives dosnet work
[05:17] <Jack-Ho> :(
[05:18] <dabaR> whats doesnt work mean?
[05:18] <Jack-Ho> i can`t use them
[05:18] <rob^> blah
[05:18] <Jack-Ho> holy cow
[05:18] <dabaR> Aha, so, you dont have hands, I take, so you can not use it? or is it something else?
[05:18] <juansebas> hey what linux version of Eclipse should I install for ubuntu?
[05:18] <morbidi> ok
[05:18] <tristanmike> what the heck
[05:18] <morbidi> back
[05:19] <dabaR> juansebas: anyone version, newest stable from their site.
[05:19] <Jack-Ho> "unable to mount volume"
[05:20] <morbidi> dabaR: it should came with the name of the repo
[05:20] <morbidi> btw, requiem here
[05:20] <Jack-Ho> "no madia in the divece"
[05:20] <juansebas> right, what I mean is that there are different versions like x86/GTK 2, x86_64/GTK 2, PPC/GTK 2, etc, I don't know which one to use
[05:20] <Concord_Dawn> juansebas, x86/GTK 2
[05:20] <juansebas> x86? I have an Athlon XP 2700
[05:20] <Concord_Dawn> most likely.
[05:21] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[05:21] <Concord_Dawn> is it 64 bit?
[05:21] <juansebas> ok, thanks :)
[05:21] <juansebas> no, it's not
[05:21] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[05:21] <Concord_Dawn> then x86
[05:21] <juansebas> ok
[05:21] <dabaR> morbidi: agreed,. but it did not, jsut add all of themm.
[05:21] <Jack-Ho> any one?
[05:21] <Jack-Ho> :\
[05:21] <dabaR> is there media?
[05:22] <Jack-Ho> yep
[05:22] <Jack-Ho> dvd disk
[05:22] <dabaR> does it mount in windows?
[05:22] <Jack-Ho> what do you mean?
[05:22] <dabaR> juansebas: uname -r and tell me,.
[05:23] <dabaR> Jack-Ho: does that same disk moutn in windows...
[05:23] <alie> where to get the .deb files
[05:23] <alie> for php mysql
[05:23] <dabaR> alie: there is a wiki about that.
[05:23] <Jack-Ho> its work in windows, yes
[05:23] <alie> ok
[05:25] <EasterSunshine> when did ubuntu first come out?
[05:25] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: ever visited the web site?
[05:25] <ofer0> what is ubuntu`s lates kernel ?
[05:25] <ofer0> what is ubuntu`s latest kernel ?
[05:26] <EasterSunshine> dabar: yes but i don't remember seeing it there...let me look again
[05:27] <morbidi> it seems that I have installed smbfs
[05:27] <morbidi> but he says I haven't got smbfs
[05:27] <dabaR> the latest linux kernel, that is stable
[05:27] <morbidi> what the hell
[05:27] <morbidi> ?
[05:27] <dabaR> just chill already
[05:27] <morbidi> well
[05:27] <morbidi> going to bed
[05:27] <morbidi> se ya tomorrow
[05:28] <EasterSunshine> oh snap ubuntu warty was the first release?
[05:28] <EasterSunshine> i thought it was pretty late cause it was 4.10....
[05:28] <dabaR> see ya
[05:28] <cfedde> think of ubuntu as a debian distribution.
[05:28] <dabaR> cfedde: is there a continuation?
[05:29] <robitaille> EasterSunshine:  4.10 = October 2004  (4=2004  October= 10th month of the year(
[05:29] <glick> hey how does ubuntu fair as a server?
[05:29] <Concord_Dawn> well
[05:29] <glick> has anyone tried out ubuntu in the server enviornment?
[05:29] <Concord_Dawn> yes
[05:29] <dabaR> its a linux.
[05:29] <Concord_Dawn> I'm running an IRCd, services, stats, an HTTPd, an SSHd, and a net radio daemon
[05:29] <Concord_Dawn> all on this box
[05:29] <EasterSunshine> robitaille: wow i never noticed...i thought it was actually a version number meaning it was the fourth release or something
[05:30] <juansebas> it's really good, my friend and I run a webserver on it
[05:30] <dabaR> cfedde: what did that mean?
[05:30] <Concord_Dawn> holy crap.
[05:30] <Concord_Dawn> pbuilder takes years.
[05:30] <cfedde> dabaR: i'm just making noise over hear.
[05:30] <cfedde> here even
[05:30] <dabaR> ok, well, good luck.
[05:30] <glick> im trying to learn cvs and set up a cvs server, me and my friend are working on a lot of software together and need an easy tool to work on it together
[05:31] <cfedde> but ubuntu is based on debian.  I guessed that the numbering scheme was related.  Apparently I was wrong.
[05:31] <EasterSunshine> glick: my friend and i
[05:31] <dabaR> cfedde: It is based in some ways. It is different in others.
[05:31] <Concord_Dawn> indeed
[05:32] <cfedde> dabaR: true.
[05:32] <jblu> hi all, can someone name a good audio editor. samples and midi?
[05:32] <EasterSunshine> jblu: rosegarden
[05:32] <Concord_Dawn> jblu, I can name one for Windows!
[05:32] <slugger> Hello
[05:32] <EasterSunshine> jblu: rosegardenmusic.org
[05:32] <slugger> I am running on Ubuntu
[05:32] <jblu> I'm on a ppc , long way from windows
[05:32] <rob^> jblu, Audacity
[05:32] <slugger> Got teamspeak working
[05:33] <dabaR> slugger: dont get tired now...with all that running.
[05:33] <jblu> thnx guys
[05:33] <rob^> np
[05:33] <EasterSunshine> jblu:whoops thats www.rosegardenmusic.com
[05:33] <slugger> ??
[05:33] <jblu> and or girls:)
[05:33] <dabaR> you are running on ubuntu, dont get tired now.
[05:33] <Concord_Dawn> jblu, it's in the repositories.
[05:33] <slugger> umm ok lame joke
[05:33] <jblu> which one?
[05:33] <dabaR> thanks!
[05:34] <rob^> jblu, just do: sudo apt-get install audacity
[05:34] <slugger> gay...
[05:34] <dabaR> lame english
[05:34] <jblu> k
[05:34] <dabaR> so...anyhow.
[05:34] <slugger> um... ok...
[05:34] <dabaR> I apologize for the offense you have taken to my joke.
[05:34] <slugger> I was offended it was just lame
[05:35] <dabaR> ok, dont let me distract you from your war games.
[05:35] <EasterSunshine> i got into linux just cause i wanted to run rosegarden
[05:35] <EasterSunshine> and it wasn't available on windows...
[05:35] <slugger> Well I have two computers sitting right in front of me, one for ubuntu and one as xp
[05:36] <juansebas> what's rosegarden?
[05:36] <rob^> jblu, you can also install rosegarden using apt-get
[05:36] <rob^> audio editor
[05:36] <EasterSunshine> juansebas: see www.rosegardenmusic.com
[05:36] <slugger> so whats up?
[05:36] <juansebas> ok
[05:37] <jblu> is it shareware?  or commercial?
[05:37] <EasterSunshine> the .com makes it commercial i gues
[05:37] <dabaR> slugger, do you think you have given us a question, regarding your problem?
[05:37] <rob^> its GPLed
[05:37] <bimberi> jblu: neither, it is free
[05:37] <slugger> im confused
[05:37] <dabaR> slugger: or are you just asking whats up?
[05:37] <jblu> wow, thanks everyone
[05:37] <slugger> just whats up
[05:37] <slugger> who are you?
[05:38] <dabaR> aha, I thought it had to do with your boxes.
[05:38] <juansebas> wow, really cool
[05:38] <dabaR> computers.
[05:38] <slugger> nope but got them working right now :)
[05:39] <EasterSunshine> i burnt out a computer today
[05:39] <slugger> my friend got me to dl ubuntu and take my sis pc that she doesnt use and put ubuntu on it
[05:39] <EasterSunshine> it exploded
[05:39] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: good work.
[05:39] <zerboxx> I have a plugin for xchat that I would like to load everytime, how can I do this?
[05:40] <juansebas> hey, to install rosegarden, should I install rosegarden or rosegarden2?
[05:40] <rob^> zenrox, window->Plugins and Scripts
[05:41] <EasterSunshine> dabar: yeah, now i have to get a new motherboard. do you know what is the difference between petium 4 prescott/celeron and intel pentium 4?
[05:41] <rob^> zerboxx, window->Plugins and Scripts
[05:41] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: they can house different processors.
[05:41] <zerboxx> rob^: that just loads it this one time, or is it different from xchat->Load Plugin or Script??
[05:41] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: that question is deliberately put in an obvious way.
[05:41] <dabaR> answer.
[05:42] <dabaR> not question.
[05:42] <bimberi> juansebas: rosegarden is a dummy package with rosegarden2 as the only dependency - you can install either
[05:42] <slugger> is there any other channels
[05:42] <EasterSunshine> dabar: i have never heard the word prescott...can i take a processor from a pentium 4 and put it in a pentium 4 prescott/celeron?
[05:42] <dabaR> go read some things on the intel site.
[05:43] <dabaR> that will tell you. Prescottt is some line of a product.
[05:43] <rob^> zerboxx, no it should keep it in there.
[05:43] <rob^> oh well
[05:43] <dabaR> the compatibilities you should discuss with the seller.
[05:43] <EasterSunshine> they would charge me to talk with them...
[05:44] <calc> EasterSunshine: prescott is the newest non dual core version of the p4/celeron
[05:44] <EasterSunshine> calc: different arrangment of pins than the p4/celeron?
[05:45] <juansebas> thanks bimberi
[05:45] <calc> er there have been at least 3 different p4 pinouts
[05:45] <calc> and celeron has been used since p2 days there are many different pinouts for it
[05:45] <EasterSunshine> argh...one more thing to worry about
[05:45] <calc> afaik p4 and p4 based celerons have at least been socket 423 478 775
[05:46] <EasterSunshine> calc: is that the number of pins? cause i'm willing to count
[05:46] <jblu> I'm new so please exuse:)  I have hundreds of text files withouth the .txt on them is there a way to do that in the terminal?
[05:46] <calc> yea the sockets look much different too
[05:47] <calc> you should be able to find pictures of the various sockets
[05:47] <calc> the 478 is pretty small and the chip has pins
[05:47] <jblu> I need that for the Web
[05:47] <EasterSunshine> jblue: for file in ls; do mv "$file" "$file.txt"; done <<---something like that maybe. ask someone to fix it
[05:47] <calc> 775 the chip doesn't have pins but something else, i haven't seen it before
[05:47] <calc> 423 is similar to 478 but is much larger physically
[05:47] <EasterSunshine> jblu* see my last post
[05:48] <jblu> k
[05:48] <NoHope> good nigth
[05:48] <slugger> bye
[05:48] <NoHope> s/nigth/night
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> sweet dreams
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> calc: thx
[05:48] <NoHope> ops... night == evening?
[05:48] <c0rrupt_> k
[05:48] <calc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_478
[05:49] <bimberi> juansebas: yw :) btw - there's also rosegarden4, which requires KDE (probably has a nicer interface)
[05:49] <EasterSunshine> wow it appears that 3.8 ghz is available...i thought the faster currently was 1.2 ghz
[05:49] <dabaR> bimberi: couldnt be muich worse...:-/
[05:50] <dabaR> jblu: have you double checked that you really need this for the web, you dont afaik.
[05:50] <calc> p4 didn't even start at that low a speed
[05:50] <calc> iirc slowest p4 was 1.3ghz
[05:50] <bimberi> dabaR: yes, i've had a look at rosegarden (but not 4) and ... well ... ewwww!
[05:50] <jblu> yes, the lines of poetry are all run together, when I add .txt the render correctly
[05:50] <calc> hmm no slowest was 1.4ghz
[05:50] <calc> back in Nov 2000
[05:51] <zerboxx> I've noticed files are created with a ~ after them.  I assume these are backups, but how can I get rid of all of them?
[05:51] <EasterSunshine> calc: i have a 1.2 ghz p4 in front of me right now...
[05:52] <calc> EasterSunshine: 1.2ghz p4 or p3?
[05:52] <calc> p3's stopped around 1.2ghz
[05:52] <jblu> http://naturesimagebank.com/Literature/Verse/VariousPoems/  see the ones with text
[05:52] <calc> p3's topped out at 1.4ghz but were pretty rare that fast
[05:53] <c0rrupt_> wow awesome
[05:53] <calc> "Intel didn't want a repeat of the situation where the performance of a lower priced Celeron rivaled that of the more expensive Pentium II, so Tualatin never ran faster than 1.4 GHz, the introductory clock rate of the Pentium 4."
[05:53] <EasterSunshine> calc: pretty sure its a p4, although that seems to be inconsistent with what i'm seeing on the web....
[05:53] <juansebas> hey I just installed Eclipse, how can I set it up so when I type eclipse on the terminal it opens it, instead of having to go the directory where I uncompressed the file
[05:53] <bimberi> zerboxx: verify that "ls *~" only lists those files, then if that looks ok "rm *~"
[05:53] <EasterSunshine> this is odd...
[05:53] <calc> EasterSunshine: you may have found a rare not generally released chip
[05:53] <calc> EasterSunshine: or you just don't know what chip you actually have ;)
[05:54] <EasterSunshine> calc: or its burned down to 1.2 ghz
[05:54] <calc> i know AMD sometimes releases chips at speeds that aren't generally released
[05:54] <zerboxx> bimberi: how about systemwide, or is that just not a good idea?
[05:54] <dabaR> jblu: html is what could be used for formatting for the web...:-/...hehe, whatever...
[05:54] <calc> a p4 1.2 would be pretty slow too
[05:55] <jblu> yeah, I know, lol
[05:55] <biscuit_> When i try to configure and compile the alsa-utils source, it says that i need a curses library
[05:55] <bimberi> zerboxx: not a good idea IMO
[05:55] <jblu> but text works good
[05:55] <dabaR> juansebas: you could add its folder to the path.
[05:55] <calc> probably about equal to a p3 800mhz
[05:55] <rob^> biscuit_, you don't ned to compile alsa in ubuntu, just configure it
[05:55] <dabaR> juansebas: find out the exact directory.
[05:56] <biscuit_> I have to recompile/configure mine, alsaconf or alsamixer won't work
[05:56] <zerboxx> bimberi: heh ok they can't be taking up much space anyways, so no worries
[05:56] <juansebas> ok, I'll try that
[05:56] <rob^> biscuit_, reconfigure the packages
[05:56] <biscuit_> Tried
[05:56] <biscuit_> No luck
[05:56] <bimberi> juansebas: or you could:     sudo ln -s /path/to/eclipse/executable /usr/local/bin/eclipse
[05:56] <biscuit_> So does anyone know what the curses library is?
[05:56] <rob^> biscuit_, whats the error?
[05:57] <biscuit_> For when alsamixer won't open?
[05:57] <rob^> yep
[05:57] <biscuit_> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:57] <EasterSunshine> calc: i am on p3 450 mhz, it runs linux just fine
[05:57] <biscuit_> It won't find alsaconf
[05:57] <biscuit_> Im on a P4 3.00 ghz with HT.... :-D
[05:58] <alie> hi i want to know in case if i dont have internet available at my installation site what is the alternative solution ?
[05:58] <dabaR> bimberi: good point.
[05:58] <alie> thanks in advance
[05:58] <oceandead> k6-2 @ 400
[05:58] <dabaR> download all packages onto a dvd.
[05:59] <biscuit_> Does anyone know where i get the curses lib at
[05:59] <rob^> biscuit_, see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/349193
[05:59] <alie> where to download ? and how to install from cd or dvd ?
[05:59] <rob^> biscuit_, you may want to file a bug report on it
[05:59] <alie> i mean first cd is bootable and does the system installation
[06:00] <EasterSunshine> socket 754 is fat...lots of holes
[06:00] <alie> dabaR what is the way to download all the packages ?
[06:02] <steveO_Laptop> hello all anyone here running wifi radar?
[06:03] <EasterSunshine> you run a radar? cool. what can you see?
[06:03] <rob^> biscuit_, also see http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-51483.html and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211
[06:03] <c0rrupt_> i see planes
[06:03] <c0rrupt_> and black people...
[06:03] <satafterh> anyone here use zsnes and get sound working?
[06:05] <biscuit_> So does anyone know where to get the curses library
[06:06] <kevin06> Has anyone here used both ISPConfig and Webmin, and which would you guys recommend, and why?
[06:06] <biscuit_> !curses
[06:06] <ubotu> biscuit_: Are you on ritalin?
[06:06] <biscuit_> Oh for the love of god
[06:06] <biscuit_> !alsa
[06:06] <ubotu> alsa is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[06:07] <biscuit_> !libcurses
[06:07] <ubotu> biscuit_: I haven't a clue
[06:09] <bimberi> biscuit_: there is libncurses4 and libncurses5 - perhaps one of those
[06:10] <Orborde> How do I add the Breezy repositories into Synaptic? I'm trying to download kernel 2.6.12 to fix a processor problem.
[06:10] <EasterSunshine> hey does anyone know where i can get really big picutres of sdram, rdram, ddr sdram, and ddr2? i need to know which ones my motherboards use
[06:10] <EasterSunshine> orborde: in your /etc/apt/sources.list, replace hoary with breezy
[06:11] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell Orborde about repos
[06:11] <Orborde> Thanks.
[06:13] <biscuit_> Thanks
[06:13] <DekaPink> Can xmms play flac files?
[06:13] <rob^> DekaPink, with the right plugin it can
[06:14] <c0rrupt_> it can play whatever fits in the mms hole
[06:14] <rob^> bmp is nicer
[06:14] <La_PaRCa> what does this do ->  ./join #channel -s /dev/false
[06:14] <NoHope> bmp uses Alsa, it's newer and nicer sure.
[06:15] <ssdd65> how come whenever i run apt-get it can never find the package i need
[06:15] <DekaPink> Meh. I like xmms. ^^
[06:15] <kevin06> Why does the Apache package install Apach2-utils?
[06:15] <rob^> ssdd65, maybe it doesn't exist or you typed it in wrong
[06:15] <NoHope> ssdd65, try add more repositories.
[06:15] <rob^> bmp == xmms with gtk2
[06:15] <Orborde> Even Linux kernel releases are the stable ones, aren't they?
[06:15] <NoHope> and search for than before.
[06:15] <ssdd65> i have all the repositorys loaded...
[06:16] <rob^> ssdd65, try: apt-cache search <packagename>
[06:16] <gmoore>  this is a really stupid question, but i'm new to linux and i'm pretty lost. i'm trying to set up proftpd and i'm confused about how to make users (not configuring the .conf file... i mean in my o/s). all ftp servers seem to function this way but i can't find a good explaination; they all assume you already know this (i guess it's a pretty 'core' thing). help? :(
[06:16] <ssdd65> ok
[06:16] <NoHope> ssdd65, what program had you tried and haven't found?
[06:16] <rob^> ssdd65, find the right name, then use apt-get to install it
[06:16] <ssdd65> mplayer
[06:16] <c0rrupt_> =-O
[06:16] <zerboxx> join #fvwm
[06:16] <NoHope> ssdd65, ah try apt-cache search or synaptic
[06:16] <cyphase> hey everyone
[06:16] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell ssdd65 about repos
[06:16] <c0rrupt_> use command line!1
[06:17] <thezombiehunter> OK just smashed Sound Blaster LIVE 24bit, im now running my onboard sound card
[06:17] <thezombiehunter> it runs on windows
[06:17] <EasterSunshine> gmoore: do you know about adduser?
[06:17] <thezombiehunter> so is there a way to auto detect hardware again?
[06:17] <bimberi> gmoore: System -> Administration -> Users and Groups (or adduser via a terminal)
[06:17] <gmoore> EasterSunshine: i saw the command earlier, i don't know how to use it or the ramifications of it
[06:18] <thezombiehunter> btw is there a huge page about the benifts of linux and to why use linux over windows
[06:18] <thezombiehunter> im trying to get somone to join it
[06:18] <c0rrupt_> can i read it?
[06:18] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[06:18] <c0rrupt_> thezombiehunter, where where
[06:18] <EasterSunshine> gmoore: try `man adduser`
[06:18] <rob^> !ati
[06:18] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:18] <thezombiehunter> c0rrupt: ?
[06:18] <c0rrupt_> the page
[06:18] <c0rrupt_> why
[06:18] <c0rrupt_> linux > *
[06:18] <EasterSunshine> good night homies
[06:18] <thezombiehunter> yea
[06:18] <thezombiehunter> were the heck is a page like that
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> im asking
[06:19] <Ice9> rob I've already followed those steps
[06:19] <thezombiehunter> tryin to get somone to join linux...cant do it without page
[06:19] <rob^> Ice9, whats the problem?
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> ........
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> not nescarliy
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> yly
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> 5y3h
[06:19] <thezombiehunter> (he wants to see why its so much better)
[06:19] <Ice9> I'm still not having 3d acceleration
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> tell him
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> its more stable
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> it doesnt crash
[06:19] <thezombiehunter> nah just give me a link
[06:19] <rob^> Ice9, have you checked?
[06:19] <kevin06> thezombiehunter, Ask him if he's removed a virus, adware or spyware
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> its faster
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> its less prone to spyware and all that shit^
[06:19] <Ice9> yes
[06:20] <rob^> whats your fps in glxgears
[06:20] <kevin06> thezombiehunter, explain that all of the basic functionality of a basic user can be done for free, and legally.
[06:20] <DonL> I'm here late because it just took me about 2 and a half hours debugging my son's win98 computer. It had all kinds of adware, viruses, you name it
[06:21] <Ice9> in fullscreen, it was about 10
[06:21] <thezombiehunter> ..thats what i dont want to do, couse im bussy...thats why i want a freekin page
[06:21] <rob^> heh.. "debugging"
[06:21] <kevin06> thezombiehunter, Honeslty, I'm not sure there is a SINGLE page explaining ALL of the benefits over Windows...
[06:21] <rob^> Ice9, non-full screen?
[06:21] <Ice9> 350s
[06:21] <c0rrupt_> linux sucks
[06:21] <DonL> rob^, the rest of my family is still locked into that system because it's no problem for them... they have someone who will fix it
[06:21] <c0rrupt_> thats why i use it
[06:21] <rob^> kevin06, there is, feel free to work on it
[06:22] <thezombiehunter> linux sucks on game support and a few other things
[06:22] <thezombiehunter> other then that it rocks
[06:22] <Luna-Tick> In a lot of ways, Linux does suck
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> cedega*
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> linux
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> isnt ready
[06:22] <rob^> DonL, nah I was just laughing at your use of "debugging"
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> for normal use
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> in the near feauture
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> it will be
[06:22] <thezombiehunter> i know
[06:22] <DonL> rob^,  yes, I know. lol
[06:22] <thezombiehunter> so how do i get linux to autodetect my sound
[06:22] <thezombiehunter> i just got rid of my sound card
[06:23] <Luna-Tick> but the way that I look at it, I 'own' Linux, when I use Windows I am building up an asset for MS to charge me more for in the future
[06:23] <thezombiehunter> so i want to use the built in sound card
[06:23] <kevin06> rob^, huh? I think I missed something.
[06:23] <DonL> kevin06, me too
[06:23] <rob^> kentaur, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:23] <thezombiehunter> can anyone help me
[06:23] <DonL> oh. no. I see it now
[06:23] <rob^> kevin06, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:23] <rob^> oops
[06:24] <Ice9> rob^ I get 350s in non full screen
[06:24] <rob^> hmm
[06:24] <c0rrupt_> <///3 lag
[06:24] <c0rrupt_> nessus owns my connection
[06:24] <rob^> Ice9, did you follow the Hoary Hedgehog instructions?
[06:24] <Ice9> yes
[06:25] <rob^> Ice9, have you rebooted?
[06:25] <DonL> thezombiehunter, you're looking at two different systems. They have different plusses and minuses. I prefer Linux personally, and I'll deal with the game thing as it comes
[06:25] <Ice9> millions of times
[06:25] <rob^> echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[06:25] <rob^>     *
[06:25] <rob^>   <-- what does this output?
[06:25] <thezombiehunter> Donl: i know all this, i just want a page so somone i know can read it and i hope switch to linux
[06:25] <Luna-Tick> Fair call DonL - for nearly everything that I use, Linux is better.
[06:26] <c0rrupt_> n #whax
[06:26] <c0rrupt_> woops
[06:26] <thezombiehunter> IS there a page?
[06:26] <Ice9> rob^ it says fglrx
[06:26] <Luna-Tick> *sigh*
[06:26] <factotum> yeah, most of what i work with at work is MS, need a break when im at home
[06:26] <skapple> what program would i use to read newsgroups in ubuntu?
[06:26] <DonL> thezombiehunter, the best way to turn someone off of something is to try too hard to convince them.  Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[06:28] <DonL> Well, maybe you could write something yourself, or point them to Ubuntu's main site. That explains a lot I think
[06:28] <rob^> or you can do -586 etc
[06:28] <bimberi> !info mplayer-586
[06:28] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB
[06:28] <thezombiehunter> *sigh* need help on sound again
[06:28] <thezombiehunter> it souldent be to hard
[06:28] <rob^> there you go
[06:28] <thezombiehunter> i just need the system to find the sound card on the motherboard
[06:28] <thezombiehunter> its not soundblaster 24bit i just got rid of it
[06:28] <c0rrupt_> mplayer can be installed by running apt-get install mplayer, you also need to install codecs. plugins are also used in applications such as mozilla firefox
[06:28] <c0rrupt_> !mplayer
[06:28] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:28] <c0rrupt_> bleh
[06:29] <c0rrupt_> erp
[06:29] <DonL> thezombiehunter, was sound working with SB?
[06:29] <thezombiehunter> were is this thing called Nvu
[06:29] <thezombiehunter> only on windows
[06:29] <Ice9> is there no hope for me?
[06:29] <DonL> What is the on board sound, do you know?
[06:29] <thezombiehunter> i trashed it couse not only would it not work here, but the damn mic on BOTH windows and here was just not working
[06:29] <thezombiehunter> no i dont
[06:29] <thezombiehunter> it works on windows thou
[06:29] <bimberi> ubotu howcome is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:29] <ubotu> bimberi: okay
[06:29] <Luna-Tick> http://linux.about.com/od/embedded/l/blnewbie_0toc.htm
[06:29] <Luna-Tick> http://www.faqs.org/docs/lnag/lnag_benefits.html
[06:29] <Luna-Tick> http://linux-newbie.sunsite.dk/index.html
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> ubotu, mplayer is mplayer can be installed by running apt-get install mplayer, you also need to install codecs. plugins are also used in applications such as mozilla firefox
[06:30] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: what are you talking about?
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> mplayer
[06:30] <Luna-Tick> They were the top results when googling for 'linux benefits'
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> you fool
[06:30] <rob^> Ice9, what does "lsmod fglrx" say?
[06:30] <bimberi> c0rrupt_: lose the comma
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> yes
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> i noticed
[06:30] <gmoore> anyone know? i'm adding users for FTP access only through gnome user manager... for 'group' and 'home dir', since i want them to be ONLY ftp users, what should i set those to? i already set shell to bin/false
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> ubotu mplayer is mplayer can be installed by running apt-get install mplayer, you also need to install codecs. plugins are also used in applications such as mozilla firefox
[06:30] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, c0rrupt_
[06:30] <Ice9> rob^ Usage: lsmod
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> lol
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> i dont he likes
[06:30] <ssdd65> im trying to install mplayer as well but apt-get dosnt work...
[06:31] <c0rrupt_> mplayer is mplayer
[06:31] <c0rrupt_> it should..
[06:31] <c0rrupt_> are you root?
[06:31] <bimberi> huh
[06:31] <rob^> Ice9, what does "lsmod |grep fglrx" say?
[06:31] <c0rrupt_> use sudo
[06:31] <ssdd65> yes
[06:31] <ssdd65> i did
[06:31] <rob^> forgot the grep
[06:31] <c0rrupt_> whats it say
[06:31] <ssdd65> it just said package not found
[06:31] <thezombiehunter> can anyone just tell me how to auto detect it couse last time i installed linux it did detect it on install and it worked, so how do i do that again
[06:31] <thezombiehunter> whats the sudo command
[06:31] <Ice9> rob^ fglrx                 229568  0
[06:31] <rob^> well its loaded
[06:31] <DonL> thezombiehunter, reboot?
[06:31] <thezombiehunter> did lol
[06:32] <thezombiehunter> Donl: its simply needs to detect the card, thats all.
[06:32] <factotum> ugh, just got a new monitor, what do I do to reconfig it?  dpkg reconfig xserver xorg something something?? cant remember
[06:32] <rob^> Ice9, have you edited your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:32] <bimberi> factotum: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:32] <factotum> ah yes, thanks
[06:32] <bimberi> yw :)
[06:32] <Ice9> um
[06:33] <DonL> thezombiehunter, I had problems with the onboard system I had, but I put a SB live card in and it fixed it. Probably could have made the other work if I'd tried harder
[06:33] <Ice9> rob^ how do I do that?
[06:33] <rob^> Ice9, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:33] <thezombiehunter> Donl: common plz im running Kubuntu if that helps, oh and donl its not just the card not working that pissed me off but my mic wouldent work on it either
[06:33] <lui> hello hello hello
[06:33] <c0rrupt_> HI2U
[06:33] <Ice9> rob^ okay
[06:34] <DonL> thezombiehunter, are the volumes turned up? I know that sounds stupid, but I've done that myself a few times
[06:34] <rob^> Ice9, you need to change "ati" to "fglrx"
[06:34] <lui> if I want to install the xfce in my ubuntu which one is the package I have to apt-get
[06:34] <lui> ?
[06:35] <thezombiehunter> Donl: yea yea and yea...wait ill go check alsamixer
[06:35] <Luna-Tick> Guys, I have a wired and wireless network, both of which work. I very seldom have the wired network connected so it is only the wireless that I am wanting to connect. Every time that I start it up it sits on the 'configuring network interfaces' for a very long time. I imagine that this could be because it is trying to find the wired network and timing out before moving on. Any suggestions?
[06:35] <rob^> Ice9, or alternatively you can just do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select fglrx
[06:35] <bimberi> lui: there is a "xfce" package but you probably want "xfce4"
[06:36] <thezombiehunter> donl: yea thats all on
[06:36] <Ice9> rob^ okay, I have
[06:36] <rob^> Ice9, then reboot
[06:36] <HrdwrBoB> Luna-Tick: disable the wired network in netwok settings
[06:36] <Luna-Tick> Just through the menus?
[06:36] <Ice9> okay, hopefully that was the trick, but I did that reconfigure of xserver-xorg before
[06:37] <thezombiehunter> ..
[06:37] <thezombiehunter> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
[06:37] <lui> bimberi: yep, I want the xfce4 but what package I should choose?
[06:37] <DonL> thezombiehunter, can you beg borrow or steal another sb card? That was my fix, I don't know about you.
[06:37] <thezombiehunter> FFFFUUUU....AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[06:37] <glick> cvs seems nice enough
[06:37] <thezombiehunter> MY POOOORRR EEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[06:37] <Luna-Tick> Hrdwrebob: will that persist through restarts?
[06:37] <bimberi> lui: xfce4
[06:37] <thezombiehunter> FREEKING AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
[06:38] <HrdwrBoB> Luna-Tick: yes
[06:38] <thezombiehunter> DAMNIT TO LOUD TO LOUD
[06:38] <oceandead> um
[06:38] <DonL> thezombiehunter, so you got it working?
[06:38] <thezombiehunter> NO KIDDING IM DEATH
[06:39] <lui> bimberi: thanks
[06:39] <bimberi> DonL: lol
[06:39] <bimberi> lui: yw :)
[06:39] <thezombiehunter> anyway i turned up the headphone thing and OUCH
[06:39] <biscuit__> Hello all, i finally got alsaconf to work, but when it scans for soundcards, it brings up 3 different ones.. which do i pick?
[06:39] <DonL> lol
[06:39] <thezombiehunter> anyway i need the multimeda codecs now
[06:39] <biscuit__> thezombiehunter: You finally got sound to work?
[06:40] <thezombiehunter> i put the headphone thing to max and like...vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr came out so i guess its transmitting now
[06:41] <thezombiehunter> is there a way to see if the sound really works, and the codecs work
[06:41] <thezombiehunter> like a bell sound
[06:41] <biscuit__> Ummm
[06:41] <Belutz> what's the different between playback and capture in volume control?
[06:41] <biscuit__> Gnome can be setto make noises
[06:41] <lui> bimberi: you have xfce4 or have you tested?
[06:41] <thezombiehunter> im on kubuntu
[06:41] <biscuit__> KDE probally can too
[06:41] <oceandead> capture = recording
[06:41] <bimberi> lui: no - but i've seen others given the same advice
[06:41] <biscuit__> Try an audio cd
[06:41] <oceandead> incoming
[06:41] <Belutz> ic
[06:41] <oceandead> whatever
[06:41] <thezombiehunter> k
[06:42] <biscuit__> My Volume Control won't even open :-(
[06:42] <bimberi> lui: ... and noone else was answering your question :)
[06:43] <Orborde> I need help. I downloaded the linux-image-2.6.12-6-amd64-generic package from the breezy repositories, as recommended by http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=228793&postcount=2 and now I'm getting "/dev/hda2 does not exist! Dropping to a shell..." early in bootup when I boot that kernel version.
[06:44] <thezombiehunter> damnit why cant the cd just run without having to upload to my computer
[06:44] <Razor-X> Orborde: do you have an AMD64?
[06:44] <nlghtcrawler> how do u get a gui for mplayer/
[06:44] <jbull> !mplayer
[06:44] <ubotu> jbull: Are you on ritalin?
[06:45] <Orborde> Razor-X, Yes; I'm not quite THAT silly.
[06:45] <Belutz> which one is better, totem-gstreamer or totem-xine ?
[06:45] <Razor-X> nlghtcrawler: I think you can use gmplayer, but i'm not sure, I don't use a GUI
[06:45] <lui> bimberi: I have a question... you know, in windows you install to check a software the you don't like it and decide to uninstall it but a lot of files you don't need keeps into your system and your registry turns little by little in a mess. Can that type of things happen in linux?
[06:45] <Razor-X> Orborde: meh
[06:45] <Razor-X> Orborde: what's the output of ``uname -r'' ?
[06:45] <Razor-X> errr, nevermind
[06:45] <Razor-X> do other kernels work?
[06:46] <Orborde> Razor-X, Yes, I'm running 2.6.10 right now.
[06:46] <Razor-X> lui: there's no concept of a registry in Linux
[06:46] <Razor-X> Orborde: have you tried redownloading the kernel?
[06:46] <Orborde> Razor-X, That may be a good idea. I have not.
[06:47] <Razor-X> Orborde: lemme see your GRUB's menu.lst
[06:47] <nlghtcrawler> how would u get it without getting gmplayer
[06:47] <thezombiehunter> ..
[06:47] <NatureTruth> i am using ubutu hoary.  And I wanna know if there's a way I can change my mouse cursor.
[06:47] <nlghtcrawler> get a gui for mplayer
[06:47] <Razor-X> nlghtcrawler: no clue
[06:47] <thezombiehunter> u hear it
[06:47] <bimberi> lui: yes it can but for debian based distributions (such as ubuntu) there is a program called debfoster which helps you to clean up that sort of cruft
[06:47] <c0rrupt_> what port scanner do you guys use with nessus?
[06:47] <biscuit__> I did alsaconf, but alsamixer still won't open
[06:47] <thezombiehunter> how do i turn up volum
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> NatureTruth,  yes you can. its a feature of the gnome window manager. check for gnome themes sites for cursor themes I think.
[06:47] <kevin06> I have heard a rumour from guyys using other distros that Ubuntu will begin charging for access to the repositories. ANY truth atr ALL to this?
[06:47] <Orborde> Razor-X, Well, I just found the linux-amd64-generic package on breezy and installed it, too. Might that help?
[06:47] <Razor-X> nlghtcrawler: as in, opening it in another window, or something with menus and stuff?
[06:47] <Razor-X> c0rrupt_: nmap is barnone :)
[06:47] <thezombiehunter> nvm
[06:48] <thezombiehunter> Donl: thks
[06:48] <jbull> kevin06:  none whatsoever.
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> i use nmap..
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> but for some reason
[06:48] <Razor-X> Orborde: ......... you're using Breezy?
[06:48] <bimberi> kevin06: no
[06:48] <lui> Razor-X: so nothing like a registry, that's good! But, if I choose "apt-get remove xfce4" it removes all the relatives?
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> nessus isnt adding it to the scanners
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> it is installed though
[06:48] <biscuit__> thezombiehunter: How do you turn i up?
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> but i think i installed it after i installed nessusd
[06:48] <DonL> thezombiehunter, you're welcome. Glad to help
[06:48] <Razor-X> kevin06: who said that?
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> would that be the reason why?
[06:48] <thezombiehunter> i turned it up by the headphones
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> and if so,
[06:48] <Razor-X> lui: apt-get doesen't (because it's not advanced enough), aptitude does :)
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> can i add it?
[06:48] <kevin06> Razor-X, Some guys I know who run Mepis.
[06:48] <Orborde> Razor-X, No, I'm using hoary, but was instructed by http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=228793&postcount=2 to update the kernel to fix the problem that thread is about.
[06:49] <biscuit__> Grr my system volume is mute bydefault
[06:49] <oceandead> from synaptic just right click on it and choose "mark for complete removal"
[06:49] <biscuit__> How doi turn it up
[06:49] <c0rrupt_> Razor-X, ?
[06:49] <c0rrupt_> its instaled but not in the list
[06:49] <Razor-X> kevin06: they've very wrong
[06:49] <c0rrupt_> can i add it somehow?
[06:49] <thezombiehunter> go to ur speaker...at the bottom of taskbar
[06:49] <thezombiehunter> and turn up all
[06:49] <Orborde> Razor-X, Where is menu.lst?
[06:49] <thezombiehunter> Danl: A. how can i play DVDS B. how do i get 3d acelleration
[06:49] <NatureTruth> Dr_Willis:  how do I change the cursor?
[06:49] <Razor-X> c0rrupt_: hmmmm, can't you specify the scanner manually?
[06:49] <biscuit__> I don't see a speaker :-(
[06:50] <lui> kevin06: ubuntu will ALWAYS be free of charge, they say
[06:50] <Razor-X> Orborde: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:50] <c0rrupt_> ?
[06:50] <nlghtcrawler> a interface where i can click my mouse instead of the terminal
[06:50] <c0rrupt_> i dunno
[06:50] <thezombiehunter> it WILL always be free of charge
[06:50] <c0rrupt_> its not in the list
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> NatureTruth,  in the past - ive downloaded some cursor themes from some of the gnome-theme sites.
[06:50] <lui> Razor-X: ok thanks!
[06:50] <kevin06> lui, I know that, it is one of the core things about Ubuntu... But, things do change, and ALWAYS might not be as long as people thing sometimes. That's why I'm askin'
[06:50] <Razor-X> nlghtcrawler: I use one where I use the keyboard, but it has no buttons or menus, or whatever
[06:50] <DonL> thezombiehunter, go to the Ubuntu site and check out the wiki and the help stuff. It's all there
[06:51] <thezombiehunter> Donl: what do i need to get thou...to many things
[06:51] <Razor-X> nlghtcrawler: it's a limited GUI, because I don't want it to use my Terminal to play videos
[06:51] <Razor-X> but, I compiled mine in so.... *shrugs*
[06:51] <biscuit__> ifyor trying to play a dvd, libdvdcss would be a start
[06:51] <Orborde> Razor-X, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1381
[06:51] <DonL> thezombiehunter, it's been a while since I've done it. But that's where I found the answers
[06:51] <thezombiehunter> damn im happy i got rid of sound blaster 24 bit now
[06:51] <NatureTruth> Dr_Willis:  how do I change the cursor?  I've read some tutorials but it doesnt seem to apply in ubuntu.
[06:51] <rock4f3lla> hi
[06:51] <biscuit__> Why thezombiehunter
[06:52] <rock4f3lla> i'm a newbie.
[06:52] <biscuit__> I can install it on mine
[06:52] <lui> kevin06: then, if things go that way maybe ubuntu will be ashes very soon
[06:52] <Razor-X> kevin06: I don't think the licenses of a majority of the packages Ubuntu uses would allow you to pay for entry to the repositories
[06:52] <thezombiehunter> my sound blaster would NOT let me use sound
[06:52] <rock4f3lla> why ubuntu n not somethin' else??
[06:52] <thezombiehunter> and it would NOT run my mic
[06:52] <c0rrupt_> Razor-X, is there a way i can add nmap
[06:52] <c0rrupt_> without re-installing
[06:52] <biscuit__> At least you have sound
[06:52] <biscuit__> Lol
[06:52] <kevin06> anyone know where I can get libdvdcss, since it has vanished from every place I use.
[06:52] <biscuit__> I can't get mine to open
[06:52] <biscuit__> Oh
[06:52] <thezombiehunter> i got rid of it about 25 mins ago got sound in 15 mins
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> NatureTruth,  i belive you can use the gnome theme insaller and it will do whats needed.. check http://www.gnome-look.org - i havent messed with it in over a year.
[06:52] <biscuit__> kevin06.. ummmmm
[06:52] <thezombiehunter> AFTER soundblaster
[06:52] <biscuit__> Google it
[06:52] <biscuit__> I mite have it
[06:52] <tristanmike> rock4f3lla: casue it's the best! :)
[06:52] <biscuit__> But i have dialup
[06:52] <c0rrupt_> hmm
[06:52] <biscuit__> And don't really wanna send it
[06:53] <c0rrupt_> will update-plugins add it?
[06:53] <thezombiehunter> iv been trying to get soundblaster to work on linux/kubutu/ubuntu never worked and its been months
[06:53] <kevin06> biscuit__, LOL
[06:53] <biscuit__> kevin06, do you happen to have integrated audio in your linux box
[06:53] <DonL> thezombiehunter, it's the only card I've found that works all the time for me
[06:53] <thezombiehunter> Donl sucks to be u lol
[06:53] <Razor-X> Orborde: you have one odd sources.list
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> I got a Audigy2
[06:53] <Razor-X> c0rrupt_: not sure, sorry
[06:54] <thezombiehunter> btw do i need to rip the dvds to play it?
[06:54] <c0rrupt_> bleh
[06:54] <c0rrupt_> thanks anyways
[06:54] <Razor-X> Orborde: errr, menu.lst
[06:54] <oceandead> people need to stop buying products from creative
[06:54] <biscuit__> Does anyone have Intel/Realtek Integrated audio that have gotten it to work in ubuntu
[06:54] <kevin06> biscuit__, I do, but it didn't work for me at ALL, no sound whatsoever. Why do you ask?
[06:54] <Orborde> Razor-X, How so?
[06:54] <Razor-X> Orborde: can I see the contents of /boot?
[06:54] <biscuit__> Oh
[06:54] <biscuit__> I can't get mine to work
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> NatureTruth,  check --->  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Beautify_GNOME
[06:54] <biscuit__> I got it configured
[06:54] <biscuit__> But i can't change the volume
[06:54] <thezombiehunter> Do i need to RIP the dvds to get em to play
[06:54] <biscuit__> No
[06:54] <thezombiehunter> btw im talking about movies
[06:55] <biscuit__> thezombiehunter: You need the libdvdcss
[06:55] <thezombiehunter> couse whenever i try tp rim em its all fuzzy
[06:55] <biscuit__> I don't think its in the repos anymore
[06:55] <biscuit__> But i wouldn't trust me
[06:55] <Orborde> Razor-X, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1382
[06:55] <kevin06> biscuit__, you have ALSA and that didn't work. Did you unmute everytthing? Have you tried polyaudio? And if yes to all of this, how important is sound. Do you want basics, or do you want like 6.1 channel surround?
[06:55] <Razor-X> !info libdvdcss
[06:55] <thezombiehunter> Biscuit can u give me link
[06:55] <biscuit__> polyaudio
[06:55] <jbull> kevin06:  libdvdcss is in backports, afaik
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> NatureTruth,  doh - thats a gentoo info site. :P my bad.. but it may have some info to get you going.
[06:55] <thezombiehunter> !info livedvdcss
[06:55] <biscuit__> thezombiehunter: I have it
[06:56] <biscuit__> But not sure where i got it
[06:56] <DonL> I'm off for the night. See you later.
[06:56] <thezombiehunter> can ya give it to me
[06:56] <tristanmike> I have it
[06:56] <biscuit__> Ummmmm
[06:56] <Razor-X> !info libdvdcss2
[06:56] <Razor-X> hah
[06:56] <biscuit__> Someone give it to him that has somthing faster than 56 k
[06:56] <biscuit__> Lol
[06:56] <thezombiehunter> !info libdvdcss2
[06:56] <tristanmike> thezombiehunter, do a search in synaptic
[06:56] <thezombiehunter> in what
[06:56] <rob^> Razor-X, its not in any of the repos,
[06:56] <biscuit__> tristanmike: I don't think is there anymore
[06:56] <rob^> it never was
[06:56] <tristanmike> I have it
[06:56] <rob^> yes
[06:56] <biscuit__> I do too
[06:56] <thezombiehunter> i have Kubuntu
[06:56] <biscuit__> Google it
[06:56] <Razor-X> rob^: oh, meh
[06:57] <rob^> it was in an unofficial repo
[06:57] <Razor-X> I never needed libdvdcss2 because.... I don't have a DVD player
[06:57] <kevin06> biscuit__, For me, I only need 2.1 channel sound, for IM sounds, OGG music and occasional video. My solution was to go to a local computer shop and buy a no-name sound card for $4, and I had sound.
[06:57] <rob^> ubotu just does the official ones
[06:57] <ubotu> rob^: I give up, what is it?
[06:57] <biscuit__> :-P
[06:57] <biscuit__> What is polyaudio
[06:57] <kevin06> jbull, Backports? A repository I assume? What is that repo called?
[06:57] <tristanmike> biscuit__, what am I to google?
[06:57] <kevin06> biscuit__, A different sound handler
[06:58] <biscuit__> Can you give me a URL
[06:58] <Razor-X> don't ask me for a particular repo, I have a 64 line sources.list
[06:58] <Razor-X> err,r more than 64
[06:58] <Razor-X> s/,r/r/
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> lol
[06:58] <Razor-X> and, just like my code, I don't comment a thing
[06:58] <jbull> kevin06: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/
[06:59] <Razor-X> backports are official now
[06:59] <Razor-X> !backports
[06:59] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[06:59] <Razor-X> what, grrrr
[06:59] <jbull> precisely
[06:59] <Razor-X> someone changed ubotu's backports
[06:59] <thezombiehunter> do i get the DEB/RPM/TAR.GZ/TAR.BZ2 or what?
[06:59] <thezombiehunter> deb right
[06:59] <Razor-X> thezombiehunter: for what?
[06:59] <tgnb> is "breezy" a different repository or something that i need to enable to get newer fglrx drivers?
[06:59] <tristanmike> biscuit__, you said for me to google  libdvdcss what am I looking for??
[07:00] <thezombiehunter> the libdvdcss
[07:00] <biscuit__> Its a package
[07:00] <Razor-X> tgnb: Breezy is the next distribution, it's broken now though
[07:00] <thezombiehunter> http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/
[07:00] <biscuit__> That plays dvds
[07:00] <biscuit__> I think
[07:00] <thezombiehunter> i know
[07:00] <thezombiehunter> but theres diff ones
[07:00] <jbull> Breezy's not that broken atm
[07:00] <Razor-X> thezombiehunter: it's a library package that tells applications how to use the dvd
[07:00] <tristanmike> biscuit__, yes, but it's included in the backports
[07:00] <thezombiehunter> i know
[07:00] <Razor-X> thezombiehunter: add bacports
[07:00] <Razor-X> s/ac/ack/
[07:01] <tristanmike> thezombiehunter: vlc can be installed via apt-get/synaptic
[07:01] <Orborde> Razor-X, Any cleverness?
[07:01] <Razor-X> Orborde: can I see your /boot ?
[07:01] <tgnb> Razor-X i am reading a howto on install binary ati drivers. i followed the guide but i'm having a problem. i am pretty sure it has to do with the old version of the drivers
[07:02] <Orborde> Razor-X, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1382
[07:02] <gmoore> i'm trying to set up proftpd and i made a new user. he can't connect and the log error is "Limit access denies login". what does that mean? the docs dont mention it
[07:02] <Razor-X> Orborde: cool
[07:02] <c0rrupt_> Razor-X, what type of scan do you use for nmap nessus
[07:02] <c0rrupt_> syn?
[07:02] <Razor-X> c0rrupt_: SYN Stealth generally
[07:02] <rock4f3lla> yeah,
[07:02] <rock4f3lla> but why issit da best?
[07:02] <c0rrupt_> nessus built in scanner sucks
[07:03] <Razor-X> if I wanna risk a Buffer Overflow, I just connect scan, but I do that to the machines on my LAN
[07:03] <c0rrupt_> its too slow
[07:03] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: read the manpage
[07:03] <tgnb> the howto said something about driver version 8.12.10 being available in breezy.. can i install the newest drivers 8.14.something via the apt-get or do i have to somehow manually install them
[07:03] <c0rrupt_> yea it lags me out pretty bad
[07:03] <c0rrupt_> scanning wan
[07:03] <c0rrupt_> tcp
[07:03] <c0rrupt_> connect()
[07:03] <rock4f3lla> manpage?
[07:03] <tristanmike> biscuit__, how did you learn that  libdvdcss was taken out?
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> ...
[07:04] <Razor-X> Orborde: did you edit your own menu.lst?
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> manpage?
[07:04] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: .................
[07:04] <Razor-X> yes, manpage
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> whats better in ubuntu compared to fedora?
[07:04] <oceandead> man nmap
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> or windows?
[07:04] <Razor-X> or, M-x man RET nmap :)
[07:04] <biscuit__> I've never heard of backports
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> it dosent detect my ntfs hdd,
[07:04] <Razor-X> !backports
[07:04] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[07:04] <jbull> rock4f3lla:  the manpages
[07:04] <c0rrupt_> ?
[07:04] <Orborde> Razor-X, Only as specified in that forum post I sent you.
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> how am i even supposed to network?
[07:05] <c0rrupt_> o.0
[07:05] <c0rrupt_> 0.o
[07:05] <c0rrupt_> o.0
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> WHAT"S MANPAGGE??
[07:05] <c0rrupt_> its leetskeet
[07:05] <End3r> lol
[07:05] <Orborde> Razor-X, Though I'm looking at it now and the change appears to have disappeared.
[07:05] <jbull> lol
[07:05] <Razor-X> Orborde: but, after you downloadeded the package, did the topic ask you to modify anything?
[07:05] <oceandead> its basically a help page  but more info
[07:05] <tgnb> man page is the "manual" for a given command
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> yeah.
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> but where do i go?
[07:05] <Razor-X> Orborde: ahhh, I see
[07:05] <tgnb> type man man
[07:05] <End3r> where the bloody hell are my headphones? =[
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> and why do i have to lok at it to compare distros?
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> man
[07:05] <tgnb> or man yourcommand
[07:05] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: man foo
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> -.-
[07:05] <Razor-X> where foo is the command
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> ..
[07:05] <Razor-X> the most basic UNIX command :)
[07:05] <tgnb> you dont have to look at it to compare distros
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> i dunt wonna learn about commands.
[07:06] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: there's only one directory here, bub :)
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> i want to compare distros.
[07:06] <tgnb> then linux is not for you :)
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> but i lik eit.
[07:06] <Razor-X> I live in the command line
[07:06] <Razor-X> mmmmmmm
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> i wonna support it as well.
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> but
[07:06] <tgnb> you like it but you dont want to learn about commands.... um ok
[07:06] <tgnb> whatever
[07:06] <Orborde> Razor-X, Has your amazing genius found the problem, or did you find what I did at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=228793&postcount=2 ?
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> so far..i havent tried much, ubuntu, knoppix, yoper, mepis
[07:06] <Luna-Tick> tgnb: come on
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> but,
[07:06] <oceandead> is there a happy medium?
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> they lack one thing or another.
[07:06] <Luna-Tick> The whole point of Ubuntu is for people who don't want to live in the command prompt
[07:06] <tgnb> i was trying to help him :)
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> mepis takes too long to load.
[07:07] <Razor-X> Orborde: first of all, whatever that topic told you to do, you don't have to do it
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> and ubuntu doesnt' detect ntfs.
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> knoppix dosent detect usb
[07:07] <Razor-X> all you have to do is apt-get/aptitude install, or synaptic install it
[07:07] <gmoore> how would i link something in /usr/bin? i have a binary called "irb1.8". how could i create a link to it from "irb"?
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> wth.
[07:07] <super_spy> hi all
[07:07] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: it detects ntfs
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> isn't there something as user friendly as windows?
[07:07] <Razor-X> gmoore: annoying no?
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> it doesnt'.
[07:07] <Orborde> Razor-X, Okay. What do I do instead?
[07:07] <super_spy> how to install xmms on my ubunt ?
[07:07] <tgnb> he asked what a manpage is and why he has to read them to compare distros. i gave clear answers :)
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> ma hdd was crashed.
[07:07] <Razor-X> gmoore: either create an alias, or a symlink
[07:07] <Luna-Tick> Rock: Ubuntu is getting there but is new, Mandrake is pretty good
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> and all it said was boot sector spoilked, and knoppix still detected it.
[07:07] <oceandead> os x
[07:07] <Luna-Tick> for real beginners
[07:07] <gmoore> Razor-X: which would be better for this? :)
[07:07] <Razor-X> Orborde: sudo aptitude install linux-blah, where blah is the version you want
[07:08] <Luna-Tick> (like me...)
[07:08] <rock4f3lla> os x.
[07:08] <rock4f3lla> on an intel chipset?
[07:08] <Razor-X> gmoore: unless you're using some application that depends on the binary ``irb'' existing, an alias
[07:08] <Luna-Tick> Rock: I suggest that you give mandrake a go
[07:08] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: *cough* it's been done *cough*
[07:08] <super_spy> hi all
[07:08] <oceandead> its been done
[07:08] <oceandead> heh
[07:08] <Luna-Tick> I found it more user-friendly
[07:08] <gmoore> Razor-X: okay, how do i use that
[07:08] <biscuit__> ubuntu can detect and read ntfs
[07:08] <glick> apple is a moron, you know how many people would by macOS for intel?
[07:08] <super_spy> how to install mp3 player on my ubuntu ?
[07:08] <Razor-X> gmoore: you use BASH, I presume?
[07:08] <glick> you know how much money they would make?
[07:08] <biscuit__> Just not write on it
[07:08] <Razor-X> glick: meh :)
[07:09] <glick> thats why apple is a dumbass company that deserves to go under
[07:09] <biscuit__> My external HDD :: NTFS *cough works just fine
[07:09] <Luna-Tick> Yes - It can, but you will have to edit an 'fstab'
[07:09] <oceandead> glick i think part of the prob is worrying about supporting all the hardware
[07:09] <rob^> ubuntu tell super_spy about bmp
[07:09] <rob^> ubotu,  tell super_spy about bmp
[07:09] <Orborde> Razor-X, That's what I did, I think. I installed the package linux-amd64-generic through synaptic from breezy. Hmm....let me reboot and I'll return in a few minutes.
[07:09] <Razor-X> Luna-Tick: or mount it manually every time (like I do)
[07:09] <dell500> anyone here know how to burn a dvd backup with k3b?
[07:09] <super_spy> thanks
[07:09] <Razor-X> Orborde: but, your menu.lst looks redundant, so, I was wondering if you added anything in by hand
[07:09] <tgnb> well Luna-Tick if you can tell me how i can install ati-drivers with working acceleration support in ubuntu on a fresh install on a Thinkpad laptop.. i'll be happy to hear it.. without the command line ;)
[07:09] <biscuit__> kevin06: Are you still there
[07:09] <oceandead> yeah because thats useful
[07:10] <Razor-X> tgnb: write a script for the thing and execute the script?
[07:10] <Orborde> Razor-X, Nothing except for the little bit specified in that link.
[07:10] <thezombiehunter> if ubuntu ever started charging money, and it was just like this, they would go under, couse u have to configure alot of crap right now
[07:10] <Luna-Tick> tgnb: What I meant was not that it is possible to do everything without the command line, but that this is the point of Ubuntu
[07:11] <oceandead> part of using a linux distro
[07:11] <thezombiehunter> ubuntu is ment for alot of things
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> thezombiehunter,  your logic is faulty..  i could use the same logic for windows...