 benny,  have you tried Linux*** Mint 5 (Elyssa) ?  in #ubuntu
 bazhang, lol Of course. It is the same Elyssa is based off 8.04 with better support for codecs and hardware. If people got problems with ubuntu, Mint is a good logical step
[01:18] <bazhang> what the heck.
[01:39] <bazhang> jessica in -ot with more wep cracking goodness
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I already banned her in ub for that today.. apparently she doesnt learn
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Who has ops in ot?
[01:57] <bazhang> not me
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> I need to see the logs
 is someone going to ban me if i mention airsnort first comment on entering -ot
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> offtopic ops all out having dinner?
[02:08] <bazhang> hehe
[02:21] <bazhang> jessica, how may we help you.
[02:21] <jessica> you carnt i just joined this channel i wasnt going to say anything in it
[02:22] <bazhang> jessica, this channel is not for idling; see the /topic
[02:22] <jessica> aww ok
[02:22] <jessica> ill go
[02:22] <bazhang> jessica, ie if you have no reason to be here, then you should /part
[03:44] <blankhead> how do i get back onto #ubuntu
[03:44] <bazhang> you were banned?
[03:45] <blankhead> i think so
[03:45] <bazhang> blankhead, why were you banned?
[03:45] <blankhead> idk
[03:45] <bazhang> @btlogin
[03:45] <blankhead> ?
[03:46] <blankhead> whas that for me bazhang
[03:46] <bazhang> 2008-06-18T11:30:04 <blankhead> yo ubuntu is a piece of shit
[03:46] <blankhead> oooh
[03:47] <blankhead> i didnt say that
[03:47] <bazhang> 2008-06-18T11:32:35 <blankhead> and ubuntu has bugs like maggots on a dead cow
[03:47] <blankhead> someone must have used my account
[03:47] <bazhang> 2008-06-18T11:32:51 <blankhead> i suggest u block me
[03:48] <blankhead> i never said those things
[03:48] <blankhead> wow
[03:48] <blankhead> someone played a cruel joke on me
[03:49] <blankhead> it must've been one of my friends who knows that i use xchat he always complains on how i use the comptuer too much and he seen me go on xchat various times wow
[03:49] <bazhang> no; that was you.
[03:49] <blankhead> is there anyway to get unblocked?
[03:49] <blankhead> no it wasnt bazhang
[03:50] <bazhang> blankhead, your chances of being unbanned by claiming a friend or brother (or someone else) did it are vanishingly small.
[03:50] <blankhead> well im sorry i cannot tell a lie, i can only claim the truth
[03:51] <bazhang> blankhead, that excuse is already reached its quota this week.
[03:51] <blankhead> come on now.  whos gonna say all that and than say i suggest u block me
[03:52] <bazhang> blankhead, the ip address, username, etc are telling the truth; of the two parties, (IP and you) one is not being truthful.
[03:52] <blankhead> and then come back and say how did i get banned
[03:52] <blankhead> no my friend used my computer in my house yes indeed
[03:52] <bazhang> blankhead, I leave it up to you to deduce which party is being less than truthful here.
[03:53] <blankhead> they must have been claiming how much of a nerd i am and he always claims hes gonna find a way to get me off this thing thats all he says and i guess he did
[03:53] <blankhead> i leave that kid for some time on my pc and he goes messes me up now when i call him up hes gonna laugh and say man its for ur own good dude
[03:54] <bazhang> blankhead, your speech patterns are identical as those in the logs; the evidence (factual) is against you.
[03:54] <blankhead> so your an admin or something bazhang?
[03:54] <bazhang> !coc | blankhead  read this
[03:54] <blankhead> i remember talking with you before you even helped me out before
[03:54] <bazhang> !guidelines | blankhead and this
[03:55] <blankhead> ok ill read it
[03:55] <blankhead> i forgot what you helped me with before bazhang i think u helped me with something though
[03:55] <bazhang> blankhead, your chances of being unbanned without coming clean on this are zero.
[03:56] <blankhead> lol wow bazhang ur right hey the only thing i want to do though is actually let developers know of bugs
[03:56] <blankhead> u know to try to improve on the stuff a bit
[03:56] <BelialMkII> Hi there, Your proxy bot seems to be malfunctioning, it stated waiting a min and rejoining #ubuntu would work, seems not to
[03:56] <bazhang> PriceChild, you about?
[03:56] <blankhead> im just trying to be the first to spill it out and let someone live know
[03:57] <BelialMkII> (referring to connecting from mibbit and being directed to #ubuntu-proxy-users)
[03:57] <bazhang> BelialMkII, the people who can help may or may not be around-->paging them now :)
[03:57] <BelialMkII> Thank you bazhang, will you need any more from me?
[03:57] <blankhead> so bazhang can i at least let u know of bugs and u can inform others for me?
[03:58] <bazhang> blankhead, post it on launchpad
[03:58] <bazhang> !bugs | blankhead
[03:59] <blankhead> cool ah but then what if it has been solved and someone in the chatroom tells me something man so is there a permenant block on me
[03:59] <bazhang> blankhead, you come in professsing innocence of why you were banned. Now you confess it was you?
[04:00] <blankhead> ill say it was me if it means ill get unbanned
[04:00] <blankhead> ;D
[04:00] <bazhang> BelialMkII, not at the moment; the people who can fix it are not around atm
[04:00] <blankhead> i feel like a caged criminal menancing in my cage lol
[04:00] <BelialMkII> Ah well, Guess ill stop being lazy and get around to setting irssi up on this install, cheerio
[04:00] <blankhead> jk bazhang
[04:01] <blankhead> ok it was me
[04:01] <bazhang> blankhead, in that case just best to /part your ban stands.
[04:01] <blankhead> i did it
[04:06] <bazhang> blankhead, you have some other issue?
[04:06]  * jrib sighs
[04:06] <bazhang> hannibal, how may we help
[04:07] <jrib> I imagine he is blankhead's friend
[04:07] <bazhang> 'friend'
[04:08] <hannibal> i was wondering why flash player doesnt work after using audio like amarok, banshee or rhythmbox
[04:08] <bazhang> hannibal/blankhead; you were the one who got blankhead/hannibal banned?
[04:08] <hannibal> bazhang u seem to be a little hannibal urself
[04:08] <jrib> hannibal: this isn't a support channel
[04:08] <bazhang> hannibal, this is not a support channel btw, read the /topic
[04:09] <hannibal> team operators?
[04:09] <jrib> yes
[04:09] <hannibal> so you just help operate the chatrooms? thats cool.
[04:09] <hannibal> oh so does that i mean i am at the mercy of you bazhang?
[04:09] <bazhang> hannibal, best to /part
[04:10] <hannibal> alrighty then i wont waste your time
[04:17] <bazhang> was expecting the 'friend' to claim he did it :)
[04:18] <jrib> same, but I guess he realized the problem with doing that as soon as he joined and saw the other nick leave
[04:20] <bazhang> haha true
[04:23] <danroj> hola
[04:23] <danroj> miren a #ubuntu-es
[04:23] <danroj> esta haciendo flood
[04:24] <bazhang> danroj, best to report this in #ubuntu-irc gracias :)
[05:00] <danroj> ok
[07:02] <Myrtti> >______________________________<
[07:40]  * jussi01 is wathing ubuntu a bit :)
[09:36] <Myrtti> kill me gently, please
[09:49] <PriceChild> Myrtti?
[09:50] <PriceChild> bazhang: back now
[09:54] <PriceChild> floodbot3 doesn't seem to like putting mibbit exempts in #ubuntu, i opped 1 and all is good
[09:54] <Myrtti> PriceChild: hangover >__<
[09:54] <Myrtti> I'll *never* drink again (until the next time)
[10:29] <bazhang> PriceChild, there was some malfunction of the ubuntu-proxy-users bots letting in a user earlier; she decided to change to irssi rather than wait
[11:00]  * jussi01 is thinking about a new thing to do with the bot
 o add BOTNET on LINUX UBUNTU 7.10
[11:10] <ikonia> didn't look good
[11:10] <bazhang> exactly
[11:10] <bazhang> like we should trust his not on this server promise
[11:33] <PriceChild> bazhang: I think I fixed that above then.
[11:33] <bazhang> PriceChild, thanks :)
[11:34] <bazhang> did not know what to do but call for you.
[11:35] <PriceChild> always useful to say what you're wanting in a ping, and if its private, leave in pm :)
[11:35] <bazhang> oops :)
[12:20] <jrib> what does everyone think about adding a new trigger to ubottu:  In addition to "!factoid > nick", he should respond to "nick: read the private message ubottu has sent you about factoid"
[12:21] <Seeker`> jrib: why?
[12:21] <bazhang> would save a lot of typing jrib; seems like a very good idea
[12:21] <jpds> read the PM I've sent you*
[12:21] <Myrtti> jrib: ... but how it would be done?
[12:21] <jrib> because I'm getting tired of just having people ignore what I send them with !factoid > nick.  And I think part of the reason is that they filter out things that do not seem like natural language
[12:22] <Seeker`> jrib: they may well ignore it anyway
[12:23] <jrib> Seeker`: possibly.  But at least it seems like I've initiated a conversation with them
[12:23] <jpds> Seeker`: so... they suffer their problems and  can't complain
[12:23] <bazhang> aye, but at least we tried; some users ignore all external input: links, responses from others in channel, etc.
[12:23] <Pici> jrib: I have an alias setup that I use, /bot $0 $1 which does: say !$0 > $1 (Please see the private messsage from ubottu)
[12:23] <jrib> me too, that gets ignored a lot
[12:24] <jrib> I think addressing the person instead of the bot will help
[12:24] <jrib> Myrtti: assuming it's possible :)  It should be.  And I don't mind working on it when I get some time at the end of july
[12:25] <Pici> Well, they're already not looking at their hilights, so ubottu: tell user about something isnt going to get their attention any more
[12:25] <jrib> Pici: but that wasn't my suggestion :)
[12:26] <Pici> jrib: oh, I misread
[12:27] <jpds> jrib: I'll have a go at the code later after lunch.
[12:27] <jrib> jpds: thanks
[12:35] <Pici> jpds: If you're going to be looking at ubottu, perhaps you can see why !info package feisty doesnt work
[12:36] <jussi01> !info bitch feisty
[12:36] <jussi01> oh
[12:36] <jussi01> Ill fix that
[12:36] <Pici> Okay!
[12:41] <jussi01> !info bitchx feisty | Pici
[12:41] <jussi01> (thanks stdin)
[12:42] <Pici> jussi01: Thanks!
[12:42] <stdin> :)
[12:42] <Pici> thanks stdin!
[13:05] <pleia2> any #xubuntu folks around to deal with daurnimator? they've been flooding the channel with join/quit for quite some time now
[13:05] <Pici> excess flood messages you mean?
[13:05] <pleia2> yep
[13:06] <Pici> Hes been doing it in #freenode too...
[13:06] <Pici> and no, I can't do anything about it
[13:07] <pleia2> I know, you're not on the access list ;)
[13:07] <pleia2> PriceChild? Myrtti?
[13:07] <Myrtti> hmmhm
[13:07] <pleia2> see #xubuntu for daurnimator please :)
[13:08] <jussi01> !test > jrib
[13:08] <jussi01> stdin: you are so 1337 :D
[13:08] <stdin> heh :)
[13:14] <PriceChild> Myrtti: you can forward to ##fix_your_connection (might be a little wrong about that name) which will make them understand why they're banned
[13:22] <jrib> jussi01: how difficult is it to make him just catch 'jrib, please see the private meesage ubottu is about to send you about test'?
[13:22] <jussi01> jrib: talk to stdin, I just own HER. ;)
[13:23] <jrib> ok ok, her :)
[13:23] <Myrtti> ooh, naughty
[13:23]  * jussi01 growls
[13:23]  * Myrtti hides
[13:24]  * Myrtti is frightened with how well her giggling echoes around the channel
[13:24] <jussi01> (a big thanks to stdin for all the amazing bot work he has done)
[13:24] <Myrtti> *giggle*           *ggle*   *le*
[13:26]  * jrib branches
[13:26] <jussi01> shhh Myrtti
[13:27] <Tm_T> hmmmmmm
[13:27] <Myrtti> awww look at that
[13:27]  * Tm_T hugs Myrtti tightly
[13:27] <Myrtti> almost all my favourite boys are here :->
[13:27] <Tm_T> boys? where?
[13:27]  * Tm_T hides
[13:28]  * Myrtti pokes Tm_T's tummy
[13:28] <Myrtti> on related news: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[13:28]  * Myrtti hides
[13:32] <Myrtti> !love
[13:32] <Pici> ♥
[13:33] <jrib> bah, looks like I have to read about supybot
[13:34] <stdin> supybot is python, so if you know python you're half way there
[13:41] <jrib> stdin: but I see "registry.String('!','Prefix character for factoid display/editing')" and what I am suggesting would force the plugin to parse everything.  This might slow down ubottu a lot
[13:41] <stdin> it would, seeing as it would have to parse every message in every channel it's in
[13:42]  * Myrtti pokes her aliases
[13:42] <jrib> ah, but these things are just vars for the plugins anyway I guess
[13:42] <stdin> yeah, the config.py contains variables the plugin.py can check
[13:42] <jpds> jrib: The actual plugin is in plugin.py
[13:45] <Myrtti> I forgot I got business cards today
[13:46] <jrib> ok, I have a decent and easier to implement workaround in mind then.  I'll just set up an alias so that it says 'nick: see the private message ubottu is about to send you about factoid' and private messages ubottu to send the message
[13:47] <ubot3> In #ubuntuforums-beginners, m_newton2 said: !leet This is some random text converted to LEET and supper leet
[13:47] <Amaranth> uh, no
[13:47] <ubot3> In #ubuntuforums-beginners, m_newton2 said: !laol This is some random text converted to AOL
[13:47] <ubot3> In #ubuntuforums-beginners, m_newton2 said: !aol This is some random text converted to AOL
[13:47] <jrib> uh huh...
[13:49] <Hobbsee> jussi01: any idea why ubotu reports bug 164621 the way it does?
[13:50] <jussi01> Hobbsee: have you looked at the bug?
[13:50] <jussi01> ;)
[13:50] <Myrtti> was just thinking about the same
[13:51] <Myrtti> cannot locate teh porbelm
[13:51] <Hobbsee> oh, it's slightly slow
[13:51] <Hobbsee> it just reported it as critical
[13:51] <jussi01> oh
[13:51] <Hobbsee> looks like a temp change or something
[13:51] <jussi01> bug 164621
[13:56] <stdin> Hobbsee: it was set to Critical today, see the log
[13:57] <stdin> and it's possible that the +text bit doesn't update as quickly as the html version, but I wouldn't know
[13:58] <Hobbsee> stdin: yeah, that's what eventually was discovered.
[13:58] <Hobbsee> stdin: sorry for the noise
[13:59] <stdin> I don't mind, gives me a break from pbuilder :)
[14:01] <Hobbsee> hah
[14:01] <Hobbsee> pbuilder isn't so evil, surely?
[14:10] <stdin> not evil, but it's a good thing to blame when things don't go your way
[16:42] <hannibal> bazzzzhaannnggg ooooooohhh bazzzhaanngggg
[16:42] <bazhang> blankhead how may we help you
[16:43] <elky> hannibal, do you need something?
[16:43] <Pici> He is banforwarded here
[16:43] <hannibal> what cha doing bazhang
[16:44] <elky> Pici, on what basis?
[16:44] <hannibal> man brother dont u have shift dude? u been on since last night do u evert sleep dude
[16:44] <bazhang> he claims his friend was abusive, and hurling expletives; this is the alleged friend.
[16:44] <bazhang> identical ip and name though.
[16:44] <hannibal> not alleged, he admitted gult
[16:44] <Pici> elky: Trolling #ubuntu it looks like.
[16:44] <hannibal> did i ever say he was on another pc
[16:45] <hannibal> nooo i said he used my computer he was hanging out listening to music u know fiddle with the compiz and booya evil joke on me
[16:45] <elky> bazhang, and he's so innocent that he knows you've been online the whole time... im about as convinced as you are at this point.
[16:45] <hannibal> bazhang must drink some strong coffee to be up til now
[16:45] <hannibal> where ur from bazhang
[16:46] <elky> the opposite side of the world to you.
[16:46] <Jack_Sparrow> hannibal Can you stick to the topic of this discussion
[16:46] <Jack_Sparrow> hannibal You are responsible for everything that happens here that comes from your PC/IP
[16:46] <bazhang> blankhead, you said you did not do it, then that you did; now we are back to your friend doing it?
[16:47] <hannibal> yes sir captian jack sparrow
[16:47] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang Cant tell the payer without a program it seems
[16:47] <Jack_Sparrow> player
[16:48] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow, exactly; his story grows ever the more convoluted.
[16:48] <hannibal> nice vocab bazhang
[16:49] <hannibal> educated man i see educated indeed oh right
[16:49]  * elky raises an eyebrow
[16:49] <elky> you may want to take the situation more seriously, mr lecter
[16:50] <Jack_Sparrow> I'd say he needs a week to figure out how to setup a password / lock so other people dont use his PC and cause him and us problems
[16:50] <hannibal> come on clarice, im serious about this
[16:50] <hannibal> hhhmmm
[16:50] <bazhang> at least a week
[16:50]  * Pici doesnt even know why we're even bothering
[16:50] <hannibal> well ur right but i shared my account with my friends u know
[16:50] <hannibal> i should've used windows in this case
[16:51] <hannibal> i should've told him hey jsut tear up that OS
[16:51] <hannibal> and keep the sexy ubuntu os all to myself
[16:51] <bazhang> hannibal, please /part
[16:51] <hannibal> <slurp slurp slurp>
[16:51] <hannibal> not unless captain jack sparrows give the order
[16:51] <elky> fail
[16:52] <jpds> Ops: 1 Loser: 0
[16:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Walk the plank my friend.. come back in a week
[16:52] <Jack_Sparrow> elky Do you have ops in offtopic?
[16:52] <elky> i hope so
[16:53] <elky> why?
[16:53] <Pici> I dont think we should have wasted that much time on that... /me shrugs
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Please review a user jessica from yesterday, she was banned for illegal activities that she admitted in ubuntu, and went to offtopic and continued them
[16:53] <elky> Pici, we'd be accused of various miscarriages if we had not
[16:54]  * Pici shrugs
[16:54] <Hobbsee> elky: is the CC really likely to do anything about it?
[16:55] <elky> Hobbsee, the CC cannot really stop the hassle of putting up with said whinging and accusations. they still take time.
[16:55] <elky> the CC isnt quite omnipotent or all powerful
[16:55] <elky> (the other omni word)
[16:56] <Pici> omniscient
[16:56] <elky> yes, that
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I just found out quickbooks is supposed to work under wine.. I need to go find out for sure
[16:56] <bazhang> jessica should clearly be banned from -ot
[16:57] <bazhang> talking about vandalism, cracking etc.
[16:57] <bazhang> ie what she had done and wanted instructions on how to do more
[16:57] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: I wouldnt hesitate to call ! ops in -offtopic next time, I do it all the time in #kubuntu
[16:57] <bazhang> pici he did
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> pici I did
[16:57] <Pici> oh
[16:57] <bazhang> no one answered
[16:57] <elky> this is something im not seeing, bazhang. how long ago
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> we can see the time on my ban in ubuntu it wasnt long after that
[16:58] <PriceChild> nalioth: elky: LjL: I'm going to change #xubuntu and #xubuntu-offtopic to give us access in the same way as #ubuntu so we needn't go through the holding nick, and -F cody?
[16:58] <bazhang> roughly 7 hours ago elky
[16:58] <bazhang> or a bit more
[16:59] <elky> ah. i was LUGging tonight
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> bantracker shows  	Jun 26 2008 21:12:09
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> add an hour or so
[17:00] <elky> btw, we need to do something about the mibbit stuff && floodbots. either stop alleging they work, or fix them
[17:00] <PriceChild> elky: I 'think' I fixed them?
[17:01] <PriceChild> floodbot3 doesn't do exempts, so i deopped it and opped 1 then everything worked
[17:01] <elky> when was this?
[17:01] <bazhang> same time frame or a bit later
[17:02]  * elky is going through a todo list, so it may be antiquated
[17:02] <PriceChild> when i woke up
[17:02] <PriceChild> todayish
[17:02] <PriceChild> I tested it and it worked fine for me.
[17:02] <elky> ok, you beat me to the punch is all :)
[17:02] <Pici> elky: grep jessica #ubuntu-offtopic -n2 ---> http://pastebin.com/f4fe6ad9c
[17:03] <elky> hahha... line 6 says it all
[17:03] <elky> translation: 'where is the line, i want to push it'
[17:04] <bazhang> wow the ban evaders are getting brazen
[17:06] <elky> bazhang, hmm?
[17:06] <bazhang> uplink
[17:06] <bazhang> still banned from a week ago
[17:16] <bazhang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23335/ his log (uplink)
[17:18] <bazhang> elky, ^^
[17:18] <elky> ah. is he back now?
[17:19] <bazhang> yeah elky , and that (above) is the relevant paste from when he was banned
[17:20] <elky> if he's a ban evader, why is he able to join from the same address?
[17:21] <bazhang> that was what I wondered
[17:21] <elky> are you sure you +b'd or did you just /remove
[17:21] <elky> that log just shows the /remove
[17:21] <bazhang> the log does not show the +b; should it?
[17:22] <elky> well, until i see it, i dont know it exists :Þ
[17:22] <bazhang> hehe
[17:22] <elky> itd help to figure why it didnt work too
[17:22] <Pici> It should show it in the log
[17:23] <Pici> I see a mute from a bit earlier
[17:23] <bazhang> was sure I did ban him; must be early alzheimers
[17:24] <elky> bazhang, happens to the best of us. hawk him though.
[17:24] <Pici> bazhang: nope, looks like just a remove, I checked my logs
[17:24] <bazhang> will do elky
[17:24] <bazhang> Pici, thanks
[18:07] <bazhang> Uplink is just trolling at this point.
[20:00] <bazhang> well that was fun
[20:00] <Pici> Was it?
[20:00] <bazhang> Uplink knows he has to be on his best behaviour
[20:01] <bazhang> almost wish we had #ubuntu-teens
[20:01] <bazhang> I know the reasons why not
[20:01] <Pici> #ubuntu-youts
[20:01] <bazhang> haha
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Another reference to a classic movie
[20:07] <nalioth>  #freenode-/dev/null  ( from which there is no return )
[20:07] <Pici> curiosity will kill me, won't it?
[20:08]  * nalioth makes up room names as he goes
[20:08] <nalioth> no such channel
[20:08] <nalioth> wishful thinking and all that . .
[20:08] <Pici> oh
[20:08] <nalioth> you will never get a channel name out of me that REALLY shunts users off to /dev/null
[20:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubottu has a cool new feature  <ubottu> janne-5011, please see my private message
[20:50] <Seeker`> Seveas should enable nick protection for "ubuntu"
[20:53] <PriceChild> Seeker`: ubuntu is the default nick on a few clients iirc
[20:53] <PriceChild> or at least was
[21:04] <Seeker`> mmm
[21:04] <Seeker`> the nick should still be protected :P
[21:10] <PriceChild> Well its registered so they can't identify as it.
[21:19] <Seeker`> i realise that
[21:20] <Seeker`> that doesn't stop them using the nick though
[21:21] <PriceChild> why shouldn't they use it?
[22:37] <mneptok> http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com
[22:56] <ompaul> mneptok, howabout the dmca version takethatwebsitedown.com
[22:58] <Seeker`> takethatwebsitedown, the newest character in "stoppit and tidy up"
[22:59] <Seeker`> or am I the only one that remembers that program
[22:59] <ompaul> Seeker`, it is your eclectic duty to inform us of it (or the short version - "yes")
[23:00] <Seeker`> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoppit_and_tidy_up


  Something to do with the stock exchange?
[09:51] <mainerror> Morning.
[09:51] <mika_> happy Buy Nothing Day too :)
[10:52] <mmiicc> I have strange colors on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official Is this a Firefox bug? http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/4z6714ju/Zaznaczenie_066.png In Chromium and Opera orange is ok.
[11:14] <mmiicc> nevermind, it's about color management


[00:00] <keithzg_> Hmmm, I don't see spellchecking in Rekonq on the computer I'm on right now. But that should work now since https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44114 was resolved ages ago, right?
[01:09] <keithzg_> ...sooo, nobody I take it? Does spellcheck work for everyone else in Rekonq?
[02:01] <jMCg> virtuso and nepomuk seem to be using only slightly less CPU/resources than the hot running compile, any chance to fix that: http://apaste.info/7n4l ?
[02:47] <Takeshi> Arlequin aca estoy!!!
[02:48] <Guest83872> Arlequin aca estoy!!!
[02:51] <Takesh1_> arlequin aca toy
[03:00] <Unit193> !es | Takesh1_
[04:17] <benklop> hello!
[04:34] <XiaYixuan> hi
[04:35] <XiaYixuan> my laptop is heating. it doesn't get heated near as much in windows. why's that?
[04:35] <XiaYixuan> (at least the fan is spinning like hell. idk if it's actually hot)
[06:54] <CHIex> hello, I am choosing Linux distro.. could you give any tips?
[06:57] <hateball> CHIex: This channel is for support, use #kubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[06:57] <hateball> CHIex: Because you know... you'll be recommended Kubuntu :)
[10:12] <naggappan> hi how to change the language for gedit
[10:12] <naggappan> say example right now i have english
[10:12] <naggappan> and i have to launch gedit with french language
[10:12] <naggappan> i tried
[10:12] <naggappan> LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 gedit
[10:12] <naggappan> but it is still opeingin in english
[10:15] <lordievader> naggappan: Not sure on this at all, but don't you need to export the LANG variable, so your command will be: export LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8; gedit
[10:19] <apachelogger> lordievader: export is permanent to the current shell, not using export is limited to the command following
[10:20] <apachelogger> export LANG=foo; gedit; kate; <- LANG will be foo for both gedit and kate
[10:20] <apachelogger> LANG=foo gedit; kate; <- LANG will be foo for gedit and something else for kate
[10:20] <apachelogger> works that way with all envirionment variables
[10:21] <apachelogger> naggappan: I suggest you ask in #ubuntu as they know more about gnome applications
[10:21] <sarahmml> kim?
[10:29] <erry> mm
[10:29] <erry> anyw way i can play .wmv videos in ubuntu? i have -restricted-extras but nope
[10:29] <JackyAlcine> erry: used VLC?
[10:30] <erry> yeah i tried that
[10:30] <erry> VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
[10:34] <JackyAlcine> hm
[10:37] <tsimpson> erry: you probably need the w32codecs or w64codecs package from http://www.medibuntu.org/ to play that kind of video
[10:41] <erry> didn't seem to make a difference
[10:41] <erry> does it need reboot?
[10:41] <JackyAlcine> wouldn't hurt to try.
[10:45] <erry> nope
[10:47] <tsimpson> try another video player, like mplayer/kmplayer
[10:53] <erry> nope
[10:58] <devmark> hi
[11:01] <devmark> now i want to install kubuntu
[11:01] <devmark> i already use windows, how can i use both?
[11:02] <devmark> what is /dev/sda is this my C /Windows? And what is /dev/sdb?
[11:03] <devmark> i cant resize my hard drive why?
[11:04] <hateball> !install
[11:05] <hateball> devmark: Usually it's best to resize your windows partitions from inside windows before installing Kubuntu alongside
[11:05] <devmark> hateball: can I not resize it in Kubuntu?
[11:05] <hateball> devmark: At your own risk
[11:06] <hateball> Sometimes the installer itself behaves... strangely. So it's better to prepare the partitions first
[11:06] <devmark> hateball: i try to. but it says: "Unable to detect the filesystem"
[11:08] <hateball> devmark: Which version of Windows is this? Perhaps it was not cleanly unmounted
[11:08] <devmark> hateball: win 7
[11:09] <hateball> I'm not sure if resizing using gparted or such will have undesirable effects on Win7 booting afterwards.... perhaps someone else knows better
[11:09]  * hateball does not dualboot
[11:10] <devmark> i cant still not resize it :S
[11:10] <devmark> brb
[11:16] <devmark> still "damage"
[11:16] <devmark> cant resize it
[11:17] <devmark> why?
[11:17] <devmark> I remember it working before
[11:20] <devmark> how  can my win partition be mounted? if i run live cd linux?
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:23] <BluesKaj> devmark , sudo mount /dev/sdX, X being the windows assigned number
[11:25] <devmark> BluesKaj: What does that command do?
[11:28] <BluesKaj> devmark, it mounts your windows partition
[11:30] <devmark> i didnt
[11:30] <devmark> mount: can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:32] <devmark> wtf i really like kubuntu. please help me install it :S
[11:33] <shadeslayer> erm
[11:33] <shadeslayer> you can resize the partition from inside the installer
[11:34] <devmark> shadeslayer: I dont think so. Why does gparted says "damaged parition"
[11:34] <devmark> I cant resize windows partition
[11:35] <shadeslayer> I don't know why it would say damaged partition, but when you launch the installer, you can tell the installer how much size Kubuntu should use and it'll resize the windows partition automatically
[11:36] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, he's trying to resize with gparted not ubiquity
[11:36] <tsimpson> I'd suggest you should try running a disk check and defragmentation from within windows, see if that helps
[11:36] <shadeslayer> but why?
[11:37] <devmark> tsimpson: should i run win7 and try to shrink the partition?
[11:37] <BluesKaj> devmark, you have use the kubuntu install phase to properly resize windows
[11:37] <devmark> maybe this has something to do with my encryption? I using Whole System encryption on my win 7 system disk
[11:37] <tsimpson> devmark: run the check and defragment in windows, then see if the kubuntu installer can resize the partition
[11:38] <devmark> Truecrypt
[11:38] <shadeslayer> mmm .. that's going to be an issue I think
[11:38] <BluesKaj> easybcd can be used in windows to resize the partition as well , devmark
[11:39] <BluesKaj> oh , now he tells us
[11:40] <devmark> hm so there is a problem with encryption?
[11:40] <BluesKaj> it's very likely
[11:42] <devmark> so what should I do? if I run encryption?
[11:42] <devmark> okay, gonna try resize it from windows
[11:42] <devmark> brb
[11:53] <BluesKaj> well. so far most info on truecrypt indicates they're not resizable
[11:57] <devmark> hi
[11:57] <devmark> gonna try now
[11:57] <devmark> gonna try now
[11:59] <devmark> okay. now i have resized the hard drive
[11:59] <devmark> should I use the new parition as Primary or as Logical type?
[12:00] <devmark> while install Kubuntu
[12:00] <BluesKaj> devmark, I don't think it's possible without losing your data
[12:00] <devmark> BluesKaj: why not? I already did it. Should I use the partition as Primary or as Logical type?
[12:01] <hateball> devmark: doesnt really matter, but if you plan to partition it further you'd want to make it logical
[12:01] <BluesKaj> http://www.experts123.com/q/can-i-resize-a-truecrypt-partition.html . deb
[12:01] <hateball> if you already have windows on there you have at minimum 2 partitions already, and 4 is the max for logical ones so
[12:01] <BluesKaj> devmark, ^
[12:02] <hateball> ugh, I mean primary
[12:02] <devmark> hateball: whats diffrent between logical and primary?
[12:03] <hateball> devmark: that a logical can contain several more logical ones
[12:03] <BluesKaj> hateball, his partition is truecrypted ...resizing a nono
[12:03] <tsimpson> a logical partition is inside a primary partition
[12:03] <hateball> BluesKaj: He's already sorted that, this is another issue
[12:04] <hateball> my brain for some reason cannot type primary and logical where they need to be. tsimpson is right
[12:04] <devmark> hateball: so i should use Primary right?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> it'd not unless he has a freespace partition beyond the encryptrf partition
[12:05] <BluesKaj> ok , I'll back off ..good luck
[12:05] <tsimpson> for windows, I think it (still) requires it's system partition to be the first primary partition, linux doesn't care
[12:06] <devmark> tsimpson: but I think I gonna use "Primary". So the Bootloader found linux in list?
[12:06] <devmark> caouse I heard "Logical" is only for data storage
[12:06] <tsimpson> devmark: the bootloader isn't located on a partition, it's written to the master boot record of the disk
[12:06] <devmark> tsimpson: so can I use Primary? would it make any big diffrents?
[12:07] <tsimpson> logical vs primary has nothing to do with "data storage"
[12:07] <tsimpson> except that a HDD is only for data storage ;)
[12:07] <tsimpson> you can use either, for linux is makes no difference whatsoever
[12:08] <tsimpson> I'd personally choose logical, as to not be limited to the maximum of 4
[12:08] <tsimpson> and I'd recommend a separate partition for /home, but it's not a requirement
[12:09] <devmark> tsimpson: and what about "Mount point". Should I choice "/boot" here?
[12:09] <tsimpson> you should have / for the root, don't bother creating one for /boot
[12:10] <devmark> tsimpsons: I dont understand. What do "Mount point" does?
[12:11] <devmark> tsimpson: cant find any /root
[12:12] <devmark> I just found /boot /home /user
[12:13] <hateball> devmark:  / is root of the filesystem
[12:13] <hateball> so it should just be listed as /
[12:14] <tsimpson> devmark: in Windows, partitions are "mounted" as "drives" C:\ D:\ E:\ etc, in Linux there is one root /, and everything is mounted (placed) to some path inside that root
[12:15] <tsimpson> so the first partition can be for /, the second for /home, etc
[12:17] <invariant> Do you think it is a good thing that such users use Kubuntu?
[12:18] <invariant> I personally think such people should first learn the basics of UNIX, because KDE cannot isolate them completely from such subjects.
[12:19] <invariant> A well-configured tablet interface might not require any such knowledge, but as soon as you allow a file manager people will have to be able to understand how it works.
[12:20] <tsimpson> how are people to learn if they don't use the system
[12:23] <devmark> how can i encrypt my kubuntu partition after install?
[12:24] <tsimpson> the installer should give you the option to encrypt during the install process
[12:25] <devmark> i know but if i missed it?
[12:26] <devmark> brb
[12:29] <devmark> okay. now the install is done
[12:30] <devmark> but now it messed up with bootloader? there is no bootloader. it boot from kubuntu directly
[12:30] <devmark> how can I fix bootloader?
[12:30] <fabricio> hi, i need help
[12:30] <fabricio> someone can help me?
[12:30] <tsimpson> devmark: there is a bootloader, you just need to press and hold shift during boot to see the menu
[12:31] <fabricio> someone?
[12:31] <fabricio> ?
[12:32] <Riddell> fabricio: just ask
[12:32] <fabricio> =) i've a small book, i thinkin to create magazines of god (not have in ubuntu), how i add my software on ubuntu software center?
[12:33] <Riddell> fabricio: if there is a free software project you want packaged and put into ubuntu you can file a needs-packaging bug on launchpad
[12:34] <devmark> okay. so i found the grub boot loader
[12:34] <devmark> but there is no windows in list?
[12:34] <devmark> how do i readd windows in grub?
[12:35] <fabricio> launchpad?
[12:36] <fabricio> what is?
[12:39] <fabricio> https://launchpad.net/?
[12:39] <fabricio> in this site?
[12:39] <Riddell> yes
[12:39] <fabricio> thank you!
[12:40] <tsimpson> devmark: http://www.zimbio.com/Linux/articles/I3yQEoWzSOg/How+Manually+Add+Windows+7+Grub2+Ubuntu may be helpful
[12:42] <devmark> tsimpson: ty
[12:43] <devmark> tsimpson: is there any diffrent if I do not using "Swap" for linux?
[12:44] <tsimpson> devmark: swap is used as an extension to RAM, it's also used if you ever want to hibernate the system
[12:47] <devmark> tsimpson: so should i use it?
[12:47] <tsimpson> devmark: it is recommended to use swap, yes
[12:47] <devmark> maybe i should reformat my whole hard drive and install this correct, with "Swap" etc etc?
[12:47] <tsimpson> it's up to you, you can also use a file as a swap space, like windows does
[12:48] <devmark> tsimpson: how can I fix "swap" now? When I already have installed Kubuntu?
[12:49] <tsimpson> you can create an empty file on the system and use it as swap
[12:49] <devmark> tsimpson: how do i do that?
[12:51] <tsimpson> devmark: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F
[12:51] <tsimpson> it should give you instructions for creating a swap file
[13:03] <devmark> after running dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile \
[13:03] <devmark> i cant find the swapfile?
[13:03] <tsimpson> devmark: it'll be /swapfile
[13:03] <devmark> what is wrong? I just follow the guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kleIOw7rXf8
[13:04] <devmark> cant find it in list
[13:04] <devmark> "ls" cant find it?
[13:04] <tsimpson> what exact command are you running?
[13:04] <tsimpson> and does "ls /" show it?
[13:04] <emrahnzm> hello
[13:04] <devmark> sry wrong dir
[13:05] <emrahnzm> my fonts looks very bad
[13:05] <emrahnzm> do you have any idea?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> emrahnzm, kmenu>computer>system settings>application appearance>fonts
[13:07] <emrahnzm> BluesKaj: I tryed it
[13:07] <emrahnzm> still very bad
[13:08] <BluesKaj> try differnt fonts ...don't know what you mean by "very bad"
[13:08] <emrahnzm>  I can show you
[13:08] <emrahnzm> wait
[13:10] <emrahnzm> BluesKaj: http://i.imgur.com/4TGul74.png and http://i.imgur.com/aWkzR3q.png
[13:10] <emrahnzm> like this
[13:12] <shadeslayer> O_O
[13:12] <shadeslayer> emrahnzm: turn on anti-aliasing?
[13:12] <emrahnzm> it is on already
[13:12] <BluesKaj> showing me won't help unless you're willing to try different fonts, styles and their sizes ..and also fonts are adjusted in Settings>configure Konversation ,and increas your DPI
[13:13] <devmark> hmm, now i cant boot windows 7
[13:13] <devmark> it says "invalid signature"
[13:13] <devmark> why?
[13:14] <BluesKaj> because it's encrypted  ?
[13:14] <emrahnzm> konverstaion is using system fonts too
[13:14] <emrahnzm> I tryed change fonts
[13:14] <emrahnzm> looks bad eveyone
[13:15] <BluesKaj> don't use use system fonts in Konversation
[13:15] <shadeslayer> devmark: secure boot ?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> emrahnzm, ^
[13:16] <emrahnzm> BluesKaj: why?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> emrahnzm, if yo don't like them you can change them
[13:16] <devmark> BluesKaj shadeslayer: yes I use encryption on Windows 7. What should I do ?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> in konverstaion settings, configure konverstaion , emrahnzm
[13:17] <shadeslayer> secure boot != encryption
[13:17] <emrahnzm> BluesKaj: i think fonts are not problem
[13:17] <devmark> shadeslayer: how?
[13:17] <emrahnzm> something else
[13:17] <shadeslayer> secure boot will check if the bootloader was signed
[13:17] <shadeslayer> and the signed bootloader can only load signed binaries
[13:17] <BluesKaj> emrahnzm, then dpi and anti-aliasing perhaps
[13:17] <shadeslayer> so something could be loading unsigned binaries
[13:18] <shadeslayer> but if it's a encryption issue, I wouldn
[13:18] <shadeslayer> *I don't k ow
[13:18] <emrahnzm> whatever, I g2g
[13:18] <emrahnzm> thanks for trying help
[13:19] <BluesKaj> according to the info i found on the net truecrypt has to be backed up to a differnt volume before partitioning and then copied back aftewards
[13:20] <BluesKaj> butmy warning wasn't heeded
[13:21] <devmark> so this partition is loosed now?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> dunno devmark . it might be recoverable , do some research
[13:24] <devmark> BlueKaj: so if I do a reinstall of Windows 7 + encryption now? it will work?
[13:24] <devmark> after install Kubuntu first?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> devmark, is encryption really necessary ?
[13:25] <devmark> BluesKaj: why not?
[13:26] <devmark> the question is, will it work after?
[13:27] <devmark> why does it not work? is it becouse of Truecrypt Boot loader?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> no thequestion not why not , the question is why ...encryption unless absolutely necessary creates more problems than they're worth if you're going to partitionong and trying different OSs
[13:27] <BluesKaj> to do partitions
[13:28] <BluesKaj> who gave you the idea that you needed to encrypt or is this necessary due to workplace policies
[13:28] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:29] <devmark> BluesKaj: i just like encryption, if somebody stole your computer. this person cant use your files etc..
[13:30] <BluesKaj> if he doesn't know the password to login , he won't get in
[13:30] <BluesKaj> are you on the job ?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> or at home
[13:31] <devmark> BluesKaj: why this question?
[13:33] <devmark> i thought many people using encryption?
[13:34] <devmark> and is was no problem to use it?
[13:34] <devmark> btw, using irssi really nice! :)
[13:35] <BluesKaj> seems problematic to me if you want to experiment with differnt OSs , that's all i have to say , devmark
[13:38] <BluesKaj> devmark, if want to encrypt windows ,and kubuntu I suggest you install them on separate hard drives , not partitions
[13:40] <shadeslayer> devmark: maybe email ubuntu-devel-discuss to figure out what could be the issue?
[13:46] <fabricio> hi again
[13:50] <drdozer> hi - I've plugged my samsung s3 into my ubuntu box, and a notification baloon popped up, but I can't see it in dolphin
[13:50] <drdozer> is there something I need to install?
[13:55] <Torch> drdozer: it has ICS or jelly bean, i assume?
[13:55] <drdozer> jelly bean I think
[13:56] <drdozer> I was hoping that it would just appear as another device, like USB drives do
[13:56] <Torch> drdozer: google decided in their ultimate wisdom to remove mass storage access in ICS (and don't plan to bring it back), so it's not as easy any more
[13:56] <Torch> drdozer: you need mtp (a microsoft protocol) to access it
[13:57] <drdozer> Torch: mm, that is not nice - for once this all works out of the box on my windows laptop but fails on my kubuntu desktop
[13:57] <Torch> drdozer: kde has a kio_mtp plugin, but it's not working very well
[13:57] <Torch> drdozer: workaround is to install an ftp (or ssh) server on the phone and use that
[13:58] <Torch> drdozer: or use adb if you're a dev anyway ;-)
[13:58] <Husar> Hi, i trying to connect my Nikon camera as MassStorage,  and get "hub 6-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2" (it was working 2weeks ago :() - fix from google do not work
[14:01] <Torch> drdozer: kio_mtp is probably being worked on, but i have no idea what the current state is.
[14:01] <drdozer> Torch: thanks - for now I will just use my laptop :(
[14:03] <contrast> kio-mtp has already been released. There's actually a PPA for it.
[14:03] <Torch> contrast: well, i have it. it's just not working very well.
[14:04] <contrast> Torch: Ohh I see... I just used it recently to put some stuff on a friend's Kindle without issue.
[14:08] <drdozer> ok, now that I have kio_mtp installed, when I plug in my s3 it pops up the option to "open with file manage" that wasn't there before, but nothing useful happens
[14:08] <drdozer> oh well
[14:09] <Torch> drdozer: it sometimes works, iirc
[14:09] <devmark> whats the name of "diskpart" in linux?
[14:09] <Torch> devmark: what do you mean?
[14:09] <devmark> how do i make my usb flush boot with win 7? should I just download .iso and move it  to usb flush? or do I need any format?
[14:10] <Torch> devmark: you want to make a bootable usb stick from a kubuntu iso?
[14:11] <devmark> Torch: yes, from kubuntu, but not kubutu i already got it =)
[14:11] <Torch> devmark: there's usb-creator-kde on my (12.04) system for that
[14:11] <Torch> devmark: check if you have that
[14:12] <contrast> I think he means he wants to put a Windows 7 ISO onto a USB drive from within Kubuntu...
[14:12] <devmark> ooo i see thanks!
[14:12] <contrast> Right, devmark?
[14:12] <devmark> contrast: yes
[14:12] <contrast> usb-creator is only for Ubuntu-based ISOs...
[14:12] <devmark> hmhh
[14:12] <contrast> devmark: You can dry dd, it's command-line only...
[14:13] <Torch> question is if the usb stick is supposed to boot
[14:13] <Torch> afaik it won't be bootable when you just dd an iso.
[14:13] <contrast> devmark: It will wipe your flash drive though, so make sure you back up anything that's on it...
[14:13] <Torch> but i might be wrong about that
[14:13] <contrast> Torch: Pretty sure you are. :)
[14:14] <devmark> contrast: what do you mean by "dry dd"?
[14:15] <devmark> should i just move the .iso file to usb flush? without format it?
[14:15] <contrast> try* dd
[14:15] <contrast> devmark: No, that won't make it bootable
[14:15] <devmark> should I just type "dd" in terminal?
[14:16] <contrast> devmark: sudo dd if=/path/to/windows7.iso of=/dev/sdXY (where X is the drive and Y is the partition - Partition Manager under Applications -> System is probably the best way of figuring out the drive letter and partition manager you want to dump to)
[14:16] <devmark> ty
[14:17] <contrast> No problem, good luck
[14:17] <fabricio> hi, i wish send my application with launchpad, but how i package my app?
[14:18] <fabricio> someone???
[14:19] <BluesKaj> fabricio, you want setup a ppa on launchpad for your app , join launchpad
[14:19] <fabricio> i join
[14:20] <fabricio> i read how send app
[14:20] <fabricio> but doubt
[14:20] <fabricio> witch format to send?
[14:20] <fabricio> which
[14:24] <BluesKaj> fabricio, please  , /join launchpad
[14:25] <fabricio> i joined
[14:26] <devmark> is there gonna be any problem? if i reinstall and encrypt win7? will it be bootable?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> I mean here in IRC , Freenode chat #launchpad , fabricio
[14:26] <devmark> will it become bootable?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> devmark, you should ask those questions in #windows
[14:27] <devmark> BluesKaj: sry i know, just thought this was linuxvswin question :P
[14:28] <BluesKaj> nope , it's windows question
[14:31] <fabricio> BluesKaj, i'm in launchpad
[14:31] <BluesKaj> then ask your question
[14:31] <fabricio> right
[14:33] <hateball> drdozer: This is what I use to mount my SGS3 http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[14:50] <devmark> should i use of=/dev/sdb1 or of=/dev/sdb ?
[14:51] <drdozer> hateball: the two DCIMs in my phone show up in nautilus, but not much useful happens :(
[14:51] <drdozer> complains that it can't lock the device, or it lets me browse folders but not files
[14:52] <hateball> drdozer: Did you follow the instructions on the link I posted? Also, Nautilus in KDE?
[15:06] <fabricio> how is default pdf folder for magazine in linux?
[15:10] <fabricio> hi
[15:14] <sbivol> !pt | fabricio
[15:19] <fabricio> hi, you can help? ubuntu-br no responds
[15:19] <fabricio> =(
[15:21] <przemek_> hello Dears how to install e17 enlightenment on Kubuntu?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> Fabian, I don't understand your question "default pdf folder for magazine" ?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> pz oipen a konsole and do , sudo apt-get install e17
[15:24] <BluesKaj> przemek_, ^
[15:25] <sbivol> hi, fabricio! could you please rephrase the question about PDF?
[15:25] <przemek_> BluesKaj: ?
[15:25] <przemek_> ok thank you :)
[15:25] <przemek_> BluesKaj: :)
[15:26] <BluesKaj> sbivol, he left
[15:30] <sbivol> BluesKaj: oh, I started writing my reply when he was still here :-)
[15:33] <BluesKaj> me too :)
[15:33] <BluesKaj> or at least I thought he wa
[15:34] <BluesKaj> was
[15:34] <BluesKaj> think the translator he uses isn't very accurate
[15:56] <devmark> hi, dd didnt work for my windows.iso
[15:56] <devmark> :S
[15:56] <devmark> it doesnt boot
[15:56] <devmark> how can i make my usb flush win bootable truth kubuntu?
[15:57] <shadeslayer> hmm ... I remember doing this, but it was via windows
[15:57] <devmark> i know how do to it via win, u can use diskpart
[15:57] <shadeslayer> some utility ... don't remember the name
[15:58] <shadeslayer> but afaik there's no way to do it via Linux
[15:58] <shadeslayer> i.e create a windows bootable usb via linux
[15:58] <devmark> u joke? it must be
[15:58] <shadeslayer> nope, I distinctly remember trying out alot of things
[15:58] <shadeslayer> and nothing worked
[15:58] <james147> shadeslayer: I have done it from linux before, trying to find the tool i used now...
[15:59] <devmark> iam stucked
[15:59] <devmark> in the linux matrix :P
[15:59] <shadeslayer> james147: okay, it's just that I tried it with W7 a couple of months earlier
[15:59] <shadeslayer> and it didn't work
[15:59] <devmark> james147: please find it dude..
[15:59] <james147> shadeslayer: yeah, i spent a while on the internet before I found a solution that worked
[15:59] <devmark> but i really love irssi :DD
[15:59] <shadeslayer> heh
[16:00] <devmark> shit i really missed this client
[16:00] <shadeslayer> iirc there was a tool that was said to work, but it didn't work for me
[16:00] <james147> devmark: ahh yesm it was: format the drive as ntfs, copy the contents of the iso to the usb, then run `ms-sys -7 /dev/sdX` to install the bootloader to it
[16:01] <james147> it worked with win7 when I tried it
[16:02] <james147> (fyi, this was the post: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/creating-windows-7-bootable-usb-from-linux-762229/#post3946086 )
[16:03] <james147> apperantly unetbootin is also ment to work, but I never liked that program much
[16:05] <james147> o yeah, and make sure you mark the partition as bootable
[16:06] <BluesKaj> ...BBL
[16:18] <contrast> devmark: Check to make sure the partition on the USB drive has the "bootable" flag set (you can do that in Partition Manager).
[16:41] <linuxfreaker> ls
[16:42] <linuxfreaker> I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed and am trying to connect to compellent box but it is not seeign t
[16:42] <linuxfreaker> http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/volumesnotdetected.jpg
[16:42] <linuxfreaker> When I try to install ubuntu 12.04. The installation cannot see the SAN storage device as shown http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/volumesnotdetected.jpg
[16:42] <linuxfreaker> I believe this could be a driver issue with Ubuntu and may need the driver to see the storage device.
[16:48] <shadeslayer> linuxfreaker: errr ... that doesn't look like a question pertaining to Kubuntu
[16:48] <shadeslayer> seems like a question suited for #ubuntu-server
[16:57] <devmark> how do i just "simply" move .iso to usb flush?
[16:57] <mr0wl> hey, what's this appmenu update i got ?
[16:57] <mr0wl> is it the same appmenu feature coming in KDE 4.10?
[17:01] <james147> devmark: the contents of the iso? or the iso itself?
[17:01] <devmark> iso itself
[17:03] <james147> devmark: umm, then just copy and paste in dolphin... if this is for the windows iso, then you probally want to be copying the conents...
[17:04] <devmark> james147: james147: it says "no access"
[17:04] <devmark> to do that
[17:07] <james147> devmark: what filesystem does the usb have? what premissions does the drive have? The output of `mount` and `ls -la /media/` (or the path to the mount point) would be helpful !pastebin
[17:08] <james147> !pastebin
[17:08] <invariant> How can I test audiorecording?
[17:08] <invariant> Skype is completely broken.
[17:35] <raulduke> hey there, anyone experienced in connecting an ipod to amarok?
[17:42] <phoenix_firebrd> raulduke: did you try in #amarok channel?
[17:43] <raulduke> yeah but no response
[17:49] <phoenix_firebrd> raulduke: you have to wait for a long time to get help in irc
[21:23] <invariant> How do  I make a microphone work in Skype in Kubuntu? It works when I run it on Ubuntu (both 12.04) on another machine.
[21:23] <yofel> possibly pulseaudio is getting in the way, try looking at pavucontrol if it's muted
[21:24] <invariant> yofel, how can I see what audio signals are available and which ones are turned on from an authorative source?
[21:25] <yofel> well, pavucontrol will show which devices are there and in what state
[21:25] <yofel> kwin should do it too, but esp. with microphones I found pavucontrol to be a more reliable source of information
[21:30] <invariant> yofel, how can I test it independent of Skype?
[21:36] <invariant> I am pressing 'make a test sound' in Skype, but nothing happens.
[21:36] <invariant> Other audio applications work fine.
[21:37] <yofel> hm, maybe make sure that the right audio device is selected...
[21:38] <yofel> I don't have skype on *this* system, so it's a bit hard to figure out...
[21:38] <yofel> pavucontrol has a volume meter for input devices for testing if the microphone at least works
[21:38] <yofel> and if skype is set to use pulseaudio it should work I think
[21:38] <invariant> yofel, I cannot select an audio device, because it only shows pulse audio as an option.
[21:38] <yofel> yeah, that should be right
[21:41] <invariant> systemsettings returns Qt: Session management error: Could not open network socket
[21:43] <petersaints> Hi guys. Kamoso doesn't start my webcam. However Skype does. Strange isn't it? Also (in Skype) my webcam is upside down. It's a webcam integrated into the laptop. On Windows, without the proper drivers, it also displays upside down. Any ideas on how to fix these webcam problems?
[21:45] <invariant> yofel:even for Firefox, I get: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon
[21:46] <yofel> that's... weird
[22:02] <petersaints> The error I get when I open Kamoso from the console is
[22:02] <petersaints> libv4l2: error turning on stream: Protocol error
[22:04] <JoaoSantana> hi all
[22:05] <JoaoSantana> Since KDE installs MySQL database by default, does anyone knows what is MySQL default root password?
[23:59] <BarkingFish> j #ubuntu+1
[23:59] <BarkingFish> bugger. sorry :)


[10:51] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: I'm looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1381776; how do you feel about adding python-serial to cloud-init's dependencies?
[10:51] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: (On precise)
[10:52] <Odd_Bloke> And probably trusty, as it's missing there as well.
[10:52] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: It's already installed on our normal Ubuntu images because of Landscape (via twisted), which is why we haven't seen this bug more.
[12:51] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: https://code.launchpad.net/~daniel-thewatkins/cloud-init/lp1475215/+merge/264967 is a nice, easy review if you have a minute.
[12:52] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: (I'm currently assuming that we're code reviewing everything that goes in to 0.7.x)
[13:15] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, merged thanks.
[13:16] <smoser> i'm surprised. about 1381775.
[13:16] <smoser> i'm surprised. about bug 1381776
[13:16] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Thanks. :)
[13:17] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: So you only need it installed if you include a DS that requires it in your list of DSes.
[13:17] <smoser> i tihnk its robably just an oversite
[13:17] <smoser> at very least it should be Recommends
[13:17] <Odd_Bloke> But by default, you will have such a DS.
[13:17] <Odd_Bloke> It's in Depends in vivid.
[13:17] <smoser> ah. ok.
[13:17] <Odd_Bloke> So, I agree, I think it's just an oversight.
[13:17] <smoser> well then.
[13:18] <smoser> fix if you want.
[13:18] <smoser> i'd like to not hvae python-serial, as i think it is not pure python.
[13:19] <smoser> and not really sure why you can't just open up /dev/ttyS1 and write to it.
[13:32] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, https://code.launchpad.net/~daniel-thewatkins/cloud-init/lp1411582/+merge/264831
[13:32] <smoser> why azure_resource-part1 and azure/resouce-part1 ?
[13:33] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: The first is what we put in place with the cloud-init udev rules.
[13:34] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: The second is what walinuxagent puts in place with its udev rules.
[13:34] <smoser> do i care about the second ?
[13:34] <smoser> i'm not really opposed to this, but just wondering.
[13:34] <smoser> and maybe lets at least explain/comment to that effect
[13:34] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: If the packaging for cloud-init is done badly, but the packaging for walinuxagent is alright, this will still work.
[13:35] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: (So really more of a consideration for non-Ubuntu systems)
[13:35] <smoser> if the packaging for cloud-init is done badly, then we should fix that :)
[13:35] <smoser> i'm ok with it. but can you add a comment to why we're searching some seemingly non-existent path ?
[13:36] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Yep, good shout.
[13:38] <smatzek> on the topic of adding dependencies to the cloud-init package for individual datasources, I'd rather not have them as hard dependencies.  Some of those dependencies are sometimes not available for some Linux distros on non-x86 architectures.
[13:39] <smatzek> that being said I see the point of view of including them as depndencies and distros should adapt the rpm requirements list appropriately when they build the RPMs.  I just know I had trouble with this with dmidecode which was not available for ppc64 in either RHEL or SLES or both, I can't remember which.
[13:39] <smoser> yeah, its hard though.
[13:39] <smoser> because many people will not have need of many of these things.
[13:39] <smoser> if they're building an image, they dont necessarily need all datasources functional.
[13:40] <Odd_Bloke> Yeah.
[13:41] <Odd_Bloke> Maybe it should be a Recommends.
[13:42] <smatzek> in v2 this could be solved by packaging each datasource or groups of related datasources together in their own package which updates cloud.cfg to add themselves in.  Then image builders could would install datasource packages they want available.  This seems like a lot of extra overhead to solve this issue though.  It could be solved by Recommends and then documentation on which datasources require which extra packages above and beyond the baseline
[13:42] <smatzek> requirements.
[13:43] <Odd_Bloke> Yeah.
[13:43] <smoser> we do have a goal of datasources being more stand alone
[13:44] <Odd_Bloke> There are only a few use cases where you would actually care about having the extra handful of Python libraries.
[13:44] <Odd_Bloke> So Recommends is probably the way to go, then people who care can uninstall/not install requires.
[13:44] <Odd_Bloke> s/requires/recommends/
[13:45] <smoser> for ubuntu i think recommends makes sense for stuff that could be annoying. and i'm not opposed to packaging datasources seperately uon ubuntu either.
[13:50] <smatzek> if we go the route of recommends, the datasources that have requirements above the baseline like dmidecode which has native code (AltCloud, SmartOS), Sigma, etc should try-except around their imports to handle it gracefully and put a nice message out that says "we require package xyz for datasource abc"
[13:51] <smoser> yeah
[13:51] <Odd_Bloke> True.
[13:52] <Odd_Bloke> So for python-serial in precise and trusty should I: (a) Depends, (b) Recommends, or (c) Recommends and code changes as per smatzek's comment?
[13:52] <Odd_Bloke> (c) is a bit of PITA to do in maintenance.
[13:54] <smoser> make same change as in vivid
[13:54] <Odd_Bloke> Cool.
[13:55] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, for 2.0, how can i render README.rst easily ? to test see if my change is sane?
[13:58] <smoser> this seems to work:
[13:58] <smoser>  tox-venv docs rst2html README.rst  > /tmp/out.html
[13:58] <Odd_Bloke> That seems reasonable.
[13:59] <openstackgerrit> Scott Moser proposed stackforge/cloud-init: README.rst: mention bugs are tracked in launchpad  https://review.openstack.org/202576
[14:06] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Do we want to track bugs in the same place as 0.7.x?
[14:06] <Odd_Bloke> I worry it might become confusing.
[14:11] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, i dont know. i dont want two separate projects in launchpad.
[14:11] <smoser> i did make a 2.0 series, but i've not played much
[14:11] <Odd_Bloke> Why not separate projects?
[14:27] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, i think separate projects is more confusing than single project.
[14:27] <smoser> and in 3 years, you'll say "why is this one named cloud-init 2.0"
[14:28] <Odd_Bloke> Provided we can clearly delineate between 2.0 bugs and 0.x bugs, that's not a problem.
[14:28] <Odd_Bloke> But if we have the same bug in each cloud-init, a single commit won't fix it.
[14:29] <Odd_Bloke> And so it might be a bit harder for people looking at bugs to understand whether they should be fixed or not etc.
[14:30] <smoser> https://launchpad.net/cloud-init/2.0
[14:30] <smoser> i'm not really sure what all you can do with 'series'
[14:31] <smoser> but i think essentially 'wily' is a series
[14:31] <smoser> i thikn launchpad intends to model what we need.
[14:31] <Odd_Bloke> Cool. :)
[14:36] <smoser> yeah, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+series
[14:36] <smoser> thats heavier use then i surely would hope to have.
[15:02] <pankaj2934> what is the diffrence user for  /var/lib/cloud/scripts/* folder and /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/ folders
[15:02] <pankaj2934> use for *
[15:06] <pankaj2934> once the instance is booted up i want to have cloud-init make a REST call to a service . what would be best place to place the code .
[15:09] <pankaj2934> once the instance is booted up i want to have cloud-init make a REST call to a service . what would be best place to place the code .
[15:41] <smoser> pankaj2934, /var/lib/cloud/scripts/* are executables
[15:41] <smoser> /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/ is configuration
[15:43] <smoser> you might be able to just use 'phone_home'
[15:43] <smoser>  http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html
[15:57] <pankaj2934> @Smoser so if i write a abc.cfg file with phone_home code in it (as from the example ) and put the file in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/ of the image anytime a new instance is created phone_home call will be made. ?  can we haev multiple phone home in multiple cfg file ?
[15:58] <smoser> all config files get merged into a single config
[15:58] <smoser> so "last one wins" that defines the phone_home url
[16:41] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: It looks like you didn't push to Launchpad when you did the last Vivid SRU; would you be able to push that up?
[16:41] <smoser> probably, let me check
[16:42] <smoser> done
[16:42] <Odd_Bloke> Danke.
[18:50] <openstackgerrit> Scott Moser proposed stackforge/cloud-init: add cloud-init main  https://review.openstack.org/202743
[18:50] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, ^
[19:00] <smoser> harlowja_, we need some test coverage on logging and url_helper bad.
[19:00] <harlowja_> more test coverage?
[19:00] <harlowja_> on logging :-/
[19:00] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11889248/
[19:00] <harlowja_> i thought it was 200%
[19:00] <harlowja_> 200% covered all the things
[19:01] <harlowja_> ah, the mysticism of coverage numbers :-P
[19:45] <smoser> harlowja_, yu're not looking at writing test 'right nwo' are you? cause if not, i'm gonna spend next 30 minutes or so.
[19:46] <harlowja_> i'm not
[19:46] <harlowja_> u can :-P
[19:47] <smoser> k. thank you kind sir.
[19:48] <harlowja_> np
[19:48] <harlowja_> lol
[19:48] <harlowja_> np sir
[20:54] <pankaj2934> scenario: user puta hostname:mywebserver in openstack horizon and server gets named mywebserver. but our admin team has a naming standard. is it possible to restrict usrs to pass only certain user-data and not all
[21:00] <smoser> you' dhave to enforce that on openstack side.
[21:00] <pankaj2934> how can that be done. i could not find any option in nova so i thought there might be somethign in cloud-init
[21:01] <smoser> no. cloud-init doesnt have anythign like it.
[21:01] <smoser> youd have to change openstack to just load the user-data on the way in.
[21:01] <smoser> inspect it.
[21:01] <smoser> you probably dont want to do that.
[21:03] <pankaj2934> yes : biggest problem we have developers have learnt cloud-init and they haev started putting user-data whcih runs as root and deviates the build from standard
[21:04] <pankaj2934> can we have cloud-init not process user-data but still process everything in cloud.cfg.d and scripts folder ?


[01:49] <vonvon> hi
[01:50] <vonvon> oo
[01:51] <jmarsden> vonvon: There are no classes now.  use #ubuntu for support issues regarding Ubuntu.