[17:45] <loadedanvils> I want to run "gnome-shell -r" when I connect/disconnect my monitor
[17:45] <loadedanvils> how do I do that
[17:45] <Thenewone> but when i type service lightdm restart or start nothing happen just this error message lightdm : unrecognized service
[17:45] <ioria> Thenewone,  you are not using  lightdm  or you are  not sudo
[17:46] <Thenewone> i'm root
[17:46] <Thenewone> ya guys
[17:46] <Thenewone> i need to install lightdm
[17:46] <Thenewone> sorry
[17:48] <Thenewone> thanks guys for help
[17:49] <ioria> yrewelc
[17:49] <Linne> Hello guys I'm considering to make a fresh Ubuntu install right now I have 14.04 LTS installed. Do you think I may want to wait for a couple weeks and install new Ubuntu version instead?
[17:49] <excalibr> dbm, use gparted if you can boot off an iso. It's safer than directly using the tools it calls
[17:50] <Loshki> Linne: what's wrong with 14.04.2?
[17:50] <Linne> Loshki: Nothing, it's working well
[17:50] <dbm> excalibr: im using VPS :\
[17:50] <Linne> Loshki: I will reinstall because of some partitioning issues
[17:51] <excalibr> Linne, if you're not looking forward to jump to systemd bandwagon, stick with 14.04 lts
[17:51] <Linne> Loshki: I cannot decide whether I should install LTS or the new one
[17:51] <Linne> excalibr: What's wrong with systemd?
[17:51] <AlexStraunoff> Depends on what your goals are
[17:51] <Loshki> Linne: no point moving away from 14.04.2 without *good* reason (boredom doesn't really count). Just install it and keep it up-to-date.
[17:51] <AlexStraunoff> LTS is going to be a lot more stable
[17:52] <Linne> Loshki: Ok thanks, I think that's what I'll do
[17:52] <hkrrsx> dbm: Have a look at this article:  askubuntu.com/questions/390769/how-do-i-resize-partitions-using-command-line-without-using-a-gui-on-a-server
[17:52] <excalibr> Linne, nothing wrong. just that upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 bound to be bumpy ride
[17:52] <AlexStraunoff> Newer will give you newer packages but will break a lot easier and you can end up in places where you're not able to sanely update to the next major version
[17:52] <excalibr> because of upstart to systemd migration
[17:52] <Linne> I mostly want a stable OS, as I use cutting-edge stuff in Arch
[17:53] <Linne> I have dual-boot, so I reckon LTS makes more sense for me, no?
[17:53] <AlexStraunoff> Isn't 15.04 lts coming soon?
[17:53] <EriC^^> AlexStraunoff: 15.04 won't be lts, 16.04 will
[17:53] <dbm> hkrrsx: thanks will do it
[17:53] <AlexStraunoff> EriC^^: Oh right :)
[17:53] <Loshki> Linne: then LTS is what you want. The more mature it is, the more stable. Thet's why the .2 at the end matters.
[17:54] <hkrrsx> dbm: you're welcome
[17:54] <Linne> Loshki: Ok thanks
[17:55] <loadedanvils> I need to write a script to update when hdmi is connected
[17:55] <loadedanvils> how do I do this?
[17:56] <EriC^^> loadedanvils: check what run's when something is connected and check what was connected
[17:56] <Thenewone> lightdm installed but i get in Failed to start session
[17:57] <Thenewone> i cant*
[17:57] <loadedanvils> EriC^^, I actually don't know when that happens
[17:57] <tyrog> Hi what is the difference between efix64.efi and shimx64.efi files for UEFI-enabled machines?
[17:57] <Loshki> loadedanvils: I think it's handled by udev. A bit like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/263248/set-hdmi-sound-output-automatically-on-connect-disconnect
[17:57] <tyrog> !efi
[17:57] <EriC^^> tyrog: shimx64.efi is for secure boot
[17:57] <Thenewone> what should i do ?
[17:58] <ioria> Thenewone,  but you have  a DE ?
[17:58] <OerHeks> Thenewone, maybe you need to switch with ctrl alt F7
[17:58] <Thenewone> ioria, waht DE mean
[17:58] <EriC^^> desktop environment
[17:59] <EriC^^> Thenewone: did you install openbox
[17:59] <Thenewone> ya
[17:59] <Thenewone> i install it
[17:59] <EriC^^> ok, check /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[17:59] <Thenewone> EriC^^, i cant get in how can i check this file
[18:00] <Thenewone> EriC^^, wait a
[18:00] <Thenewone> EriC^^, wait a s plz
[18:01] <Thenewone> ok
[18:01] <EriC^^> ill brb
[18:02] <Thenewone> ok
[18:02] <EriC^> im back
[18:02] <Thenewone> wback
[18:02] <EriC^> Thenewone: run sudo less /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[18:03] <Thenewone> i'm using nano now
[18:03] <Thenewone> ya what should i do ?
[18:03] <EriC^> and check what it says, it might say it's logging to /var/log/lightdm/x-1.log or something
[18:03] <EriC^> Thenewone: check what it says
[18:04] <Thenewone> waht line ?
[18:04] <Thenewone> what*
[18:04] <loadedanvils> Loshki, it looks like the script isn't being ran
[18:04] <loadedanvils> the script I'm running is just two lines
[18:04] <loadedanvils> #!/bin/sh
[18:04] <loadedanvils> gnome-shell -r
[18:04] <Thenewone> loggin to /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[18:05] <tyrog> EriC^: Is Secureboot some problem for using Ubuntu normally? Because my system doesn't boot without it enabled...
[18:05] <Thenewone> should i change it ?
[18:05] <EriC^> Thenewone: no, check below
[18:05] <Loshki> loadedanvils: add some debugging e.g. echo "script stated at `date`" >> /tmp/t.txt so you can see what's going on.
[18:05] <EriC^> Thenewone: can you upload it? type sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:06] <EriC^> tyrog: no, it's not a problem usually
[18:06] <Thenewone> it's give http://termbin.com/9r39
[18:08] <loadedanvils> Loshki, the script is being run but for some reason, "gnome-shell -r" isn't executing
[18:08] <EriC^> Thenewone: type sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:08] <loadedanvils> it's skipping over that line
[18:08] <EriC^> loadedanvils: what does gnome-shell -r do?
[18:08] <loadedanvils> it's supposed to restart the gnome-shell
[18:08] <EriC^> loadedanvils: you probably need to set the environment for it
[18:09] <Thenewone> EriC^, http://termbin.com/qyck
[18:09] <ioria> Thenewone,  do you have  .Xauthority in  home ?
[18:09] <loadedanvils> EriC^, I'm not quite sure what you mean
[18:09] <OerHeks> loadedanvils, so did you executed that script with sudo?
[18:09] <EriC^> loadedanvils: it's being run as root and without the same environment as your user
[18:09] <Thenewone> ioria, ya
[18:09] <EriC^> loadedanvils: try DISPLAY=:0 gnome-shell -r as a start
[18:10] <loadedanvils> EriC^, what should that do
[18:10] <ioria> Thenewone,  can you ls  -l  it ?
[18:10] <tyrog> EriC^: if it works fine in Ubuntu, why are people so worried about it and that it can prevent other systems from booting in our computer?
[18:10] <tyrog> besides Windows
[18:10] <Thenewone> nothing in it
[18:10] <ioria> Thenewone,  ls  -l  .Xauthority
[18:10] <EriC^> you might need to set $XAUTHORITY to your user's /home/<user>/.Xauthority
[18:10] <Thenewone> ioria, exactly
[18:10] <Thenewone> ya
[18:10] <Thenewone> ioria, but i cant get in why ?
[18:11] <ioria> Thenewone,  i  wanna  know  the permissions
[18:11] <EriC^> loadedanvils: ^
[18:11] <Loshki> loadedanvils: try a complete pathname for gnome-shell -r. Does it work when you type it from the shell?
[18:11] <Thenewone> ioria, i really dont know
[18:11] <ioria> Thenewone,  type  ls  -l  .Xauthority
[18:12] <Thenewone> ioria, after that ?
[18:12] <ioria> Thenewone,  past
[18:12] <ioria> Thenewone,  it's  a  single line
[18:12] <Thenewone> ioria, the resolts ?
[18:12] <EriC^> tyrog: it's really not a problem especially with ubuntu
[18:12] <ioria> Thenewone,  yes
[18:12] <Thenewone> -rw------ 1 root root 0 Apr 3 18:15 .Xauthority
[18:13] <Thenewone> ioria, this is it
[18:13] <ioria> Thenewone,  yep
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> tyrog  is this link useful http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/enlightenment/windows-secure-boot-lockout-and-desktop-linux-66114
[18:13] <Thenewone> EriC^, plz help me i'm waiting
[18:13] <EriC^> Thenewone: are you using your user's account or root?
[18:13] <Thenewone> EriC^, root now
[18:14] <tyrog> MonkeyDust: Thank you, I wasn't complaining, just curious about this matter...
[18:14] <skinux> Having an issue with permissions I think. I've an app under /var/www/, it needs to be able to write to /var/www/clients/MyProject/public/pdf. I have pdf directory set to 775, but it's not letting the upload happen.
[18:15] <vroomfondel|2> I am fighting with creating a bootable USB stick for my UEFI notebook
[18:15] <Thenewone> vroomfondel|2, good luck man ;D
[18:15] <tyrog> vroomfondel|2: What OS are you currently on?
[18:15] <shivain22> hi guys
[18:16] <vroomfondel|2> tyrog: ubuntu
[18:16] <Thenewone> Hi
[18:16] <EriC^> Thenewone: type lspci -nnk | grep -A2 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:16] <shivain22> hey thenewone
[18:16] <Thenewone> shivain22, Hi
[18:16] <tyrog> vroomfondel|2: I just use the startup disk creator tool, and it works fine booting from UEFI
[18:16] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[18:16] <shivain22> dude i have some problems with the bluetooth n wifi
[18:16] <vroomfondel|2> tyrog: I created a 4G file in which I installed a mkfs.vfat
[18:17] <vroomfondel|2> tyrog: then I dropped the contents of an ISO image into it
[18:17] <EriC^> vroomfondel|2: are you trying to manually create a persistent live usb?
[18:17] <shivain22> i have done everything whatever i can get from the net
[18:17] <EriC^> vroomfondel|2: just dd it over, sudo dd if=path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M , don't need to partition or anything
[18:17] <Thenewone> EriC^, http://termbin.com/c451
[18:17] <shivain22> my lap is lenovo b50-70
[18:18] <vroomfondel|2> EriC^: I'd rather like  to create the netinstall of Debian, to be true
[18:18] <EriC^> vroomfondel|2: doesn't matter
[18:18] <footer> hi
[18:18] <vroomfondel|2> EriC^: no, ISO's don't work
[18:18] <footer> I want to change my right key to shift + left
[18:18] <EriC^> what do you mean?
[18:18] <footer> how can I do that
[18:19] <EriC^> footer: what right key?
[18:19] <vroomfondel|2> EriC^: if I dd an ISO over to the USB stick, it won't boot
[18:19] <footer> EriC^: right arrow key
[18:19] <EriC^> footer: ok, look into xbindkeys
[18:19] <footer> EriC^: I was trying xmodmap but its not working
[18:19] <footer> as it can only map one key
[18:20] <footer> but not shift + something
[18:20] <EriC^> yeah
[18:20] <footer> okay got it
[18:20] <shivain22> anyone there for bluetooth?
[18:20] <footer> thanks EriC^
[18:21] <ioria> Thenewone,  maybe the owner and group are notcorrect
[18:22] <Thenewone> ioria, how fix that ?
[18:22] <EriC^> Thenewone: i think you need to install a graphics driver
[18:22] <EriC^> Thenewone: it doesn't say any driver is in use
[18:22] <EriC^> try sudo lshw -C video | grep driver and paste here
[18:23] <Thenewone> ok
[18:23] <EriC^> Thenewone: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all
[18:23] <Thenewone> ok
[18:24] <Thenewone> the answer for that command give nothing
[18:24] <EriC^> ok, i guess that means nothing is in use
[18:25] <vroomfondel|2> if I write a MBR by install-mbr it looks like the vfat gets destroyed
[18:26] <bekks> vroomfondel|2: Whats the complete command you are using?
[18:26] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: umm... I think I just realized my error
[18:27] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: I am using a filesystem-inside-file technique
[18:27] <Thenewone> ioria, how fix that plz ?
[18:27] <Thenewone> ioria, group and my account
[18:27] <bekks> vroomfondel|2: Whats the complete command you are using?
[18:27] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: so I prepared a vfat in a file and wrote the MBR to it at last, which is nonsense, I believe
[18:27] <ioria> Thenewone,  did you xserver-xorg-video-all ?
[18:28] <Thenewone> ioria, i cant get in
[18:28] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: I first did a syslinux file-with-vfat
[18:28] <Thenewone> ioria, i tryed to install it with root from recovery mode he dont give me the permission
[18:28] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: after that a install-mbr file-with-vfat
[18:29] <EriC^> Thenewone: press in recovery mode enable networking, it will remount as rw and give you net access
[18:29] <Thenewone> ok
[18:30] <vroomfondel|2> bekks: writing the MBR into a file carrying a FAT doesn't work, right?
[18:30] <bekks> vroomfondel|2: I never tried that.
[18:30] <loadedanvils> the problem I've been having in gnome is that I can set workspaces_only_on_primary when I connect a second monitor
[18:30] <loadedanvils> but when I disconnect it, it reverts to putting everything on one screen
[18:31] <Thenewone> EriC^, xserver-xorg-vdeo-all is already the newest version
[18:31] <ioria> Thenewone,  sudo  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 4
[18:32] <ioria> Thenewone,  just kernel driver in use
[18:32] <KometaGirl> hi
[18:32] <Thenewone> Kernel driver in use: e1000
[18:33] <ioria> Thenewone,  that's the ethernet .... no  ?
[18:34] <Thenewone> ioria, EriC^ said just kernel i givet him the kernel
[18:34] <EriC^> i think that's the ethernet
[18:34] <Thenewone> ok
[18:34] <KometaGirl> привет
[18:34] <andybrine> evening everyone
[18:34] <ejcweb> join #unix
[18:34] <omgitsmit> !ru | KometaGirl
[18:34] <Thenewone> why i have graphical interface lightdm
[18:35] <Thenewone> but i cant log in when i type my password
[18:35] <EriC^> Thenewone: oh
[18:35] <KometaGirl> спасибо
[18:35] <syntroPi> Which virtualization solution would survive Xorg crashing?  :-/   Is there any common solution which runs as a system service, so i could just restart Xorg and reconnect to it then?
[18:35] <andybrine> does anyone know a simple way to expand a partition in ubuntu?
[18:35] <bekks> !gparted | andybrine
[18:35] <EriC^> Thenewone: i thought you still get a blank screen, that's probably cause you used sudo startx
[18:35] <omgitsmit> andybrine: i use gparted
[18:35] <omgitsmit> andybrine: i need a GUI or i'll mess it up :)
[18:36] <EriC^> Thenewone: type sudo chown <your user>: /home/<your user>/.Xauthority
[18:36] <andybrine> hahaha same here omgitsmit
[18:36] <yorwos> my pc runs ubuntu 14.04 , if i install windows guest in virtual machine will i be able to print using epson's driver ?
[18:36] <omgitsmit> cheers
[18:36] <andybrine> when I use gparted though, I cant expand the partition
[18:36] <bekks> yorwos: How is the printer connected?
[18:36] <omgitsmit> yorwos: sounds plausable, why not try it and find out?
[18:36] <andybrine> I can only shrink it
[18:36] <yorwos> its connected with network through the router
[18:36] <andybrine> I have over 100gb unallocated space also
[18:37] <omgitsmit> yorwos: as long as the vm has a route to your network you should be golden
[18:37] <hkrrsx> andybrine: Step by step instructions with pictures:   http://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/
[18:37] <omgitsmit> andybrine: strange
[18:37] <yorwos> gr8 !!! thanx !!!
[18:37] <Thenewone> EriC^, nothing in
[18:37] <EriC^> Thenewone: you still can't login?
[18:37] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya
[18:37] <EriC^> Thenewone: does the guest account work?
[18:37] <Thenewone> EriC^, nope
[18:38] <omgitsmit> andybrine: erm, you have to do it from live cd
[18:38] <EriC^> Thenewone: it just resets?
[18:38] <omgitsmit> andybrine: you're trying to do it while using the partition arent you
[18:38] <andybrine> thanks hkrrsk
[18:38] <hkrrsx> andybrine: you're welcome
[18:38] <Thenewone> EriC^, nope he give this message
[18:38] <Thenewone> EriC^, wait i need to reboot it
[18:38] <andybrine> I am but I have tried with the live cd and have had issues
[18:38] <omgitsmit> andybrine: it cant be mounted or in use
[18:38] <andybrine> that guide should sort it
[18:39] <omgitsmit> andybrine: right on, good luck
[18:39] <andybrine> yea, I know that they cant be mounted
[18:39] <andybrine> needed to ask here to get some idea of how to do it
[18:39] <Thenewone> EriC^, i have this message : Failed to start session
[18:39] <ejcweb> I've installed the mail command line tool, but it seems to hang forever (I have to terminate the process), and the email only sends minutes later. Any ideas what's wrong?
[18:39] <ioria> Thenewone,  change owner and group , if  you are 'test',  the  ls  -l command say  test test
[18:39] <loadedanvils> anyone here familiar with gnome?
[18:39] <andybrine> I will be back with LiveCd is I have any more issues
[18:40] <Thenewone> ioria, sorry what should i type exactly
[18:40] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: installed it on my laptop last night, i really like the minimalistic layout.
[18:40] <andybrine> one problem I am having is that I cant turn off swap
[18:40] <andybrine> there is no option for it
[18:40] <omgitsmit> andybrine: sudo swapoff
[18:40] <loadedanvils> I'm using an external display so I set "workspaces_on_primary_only" to false
[18:41] <andybrine> ok, thanks
[18:41] <Thenewone> ioria, i just added i new account
[18:41] <Thenewone> i will try
[18:41] <loadedanvils> but when I connect/disconnect the display, it all goes to the primary one
[18:41] <andybrine> I will reboot and see how it goes
[18:41] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: i manage my monitors via the Display app
[18:41] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: ive never had to mess with any conf
[18:42] <Thenewone> the same problems
[18:42] <loadedanvils> omgitsmit, when you press the home key do they all go to the same screen?
[18:42] <ioria> Thenewone,  ls -l  .Xuthority ?
[18:42] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: i think so, i dont have the laptop with me at the moment
[18:42] <loadedanvils> that's what I don't want
[18:43] <loadedanvils> I want the windows on the external display to go to that display
[18:43] <loadedanvils> not to the main one
[18:43] <Thenewone> ioria, he give nothing
[18:43] <ioria> Thenewone,  are you  in  home folder ?
[18:44] <Thenewone> my box dont let me get in
[18:44] <Thenewone> ioria, i get tired from rebooting
[18:44] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: maybe gnome-tweek-tool has something that can help?
[18:44] <EriC^> Thenewone: press ctrl+alt+f1
[18:44] <EriC^> Thenewone: you can login there
[18:44] <ioria> Thenewone,  you need a shell
[18:44] <loadedanvils> omgitsmit, already tried that
[18:44] <loadedanvils> it resets whenever I unplug
[18:44] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: i used the unity tweek tool to create hot corners
[18:44] <omgitsmit> ah ok
[18:44] <EriC^> ioria: i think it's another problem, cause he can't use the guest account too, dunno what's wrong though
[18:45] <ioria> Eric^  yep
[18:47] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: i see someone on suse that made gnome3 behave more like gnome2 to get that functionality back
[18:47] <syntroPi> which of the modern DE is the most stable/usable? im hating gnome shell more and more
[18:47] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: he also doesnt show us at all how he managed to do it either, so thats nice.
[18:47] <loadedanvils> link please
[18:47] <ioria> Thenewone,  there's a working user on  you system ?
[18:47] <omgitsmit> https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/468620-GNOME-3-2-1-Window-Management-DUAL-Screens-HELP
[18:47] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: this is not on the topic of this chat room, however.
[18:48] <Thenewone> ioria, plz i'm gonna bring a cup of thea i'm tired thanks for helping you and EriC^
[18:48] <Thenewone> ioria, i will back
[18:48] <ioria> Thenewone,  np
[18:49] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: oh he has a link, scriptblock was stripping it from my page. there's some instruction on the jump.
[18:49] <omgitsmit> loadedanvils: what do you know, gnome tweek tool to the rescue :)
[18:49] <loadedanvils> yeah I already tried it
[18:49] <omgitsmit> no luck?
[18:50] <loadedanvils> the thing is, when I disconnect the monitor, it reverts back to all windows on the same screen
[18:50] <omgitsmit> and you have to re-do all your settings all over again?
[18:50] <loadedanvils> yeah
[18:50] <omgitsmit> sounds like its just adapting to whatever its detecting
[18:50] <omgitsmit> "its a feature not a bug" kinda thing.
[18:50] <loadedanvils> or just restart gnome-shell, but I'm having a hard time doing that anyway
[18:51] <omgitsmit> im sure you could hack up some upstart script for it
[18:51] <omgitsmit> but thats way beyond me
[18:51] <loadedanvils> I tried to
[18:51] <loadedanvils> but it didn't work
[18:51] <omgitsmit> doh
[18:51] <loadedanvils> I've been on this same problem for 6 hours
[18:51] <omgitsmit> lovely
[18:55] <hikenboot> hi! I have a mac G5 I am trying to raise from the dead. I dont have a cdrom player that works. wanted to install ubuntu 14.04 MAC version on trying to figure out how I build a bootable usb for it from inside a linux amd64 desktop.
[18:56] <EriC^> hikenboot: type sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M ( get /dev/sdX from sudo parted -l and make sureit's your usb's device name )
[18:56] <andybrine> Im still having problems expanding a partition, I can shrik it but not expand
[18:57] <hikenboot> what file system do i use for the usb
[18:57] <andybrine> there is also no option to turn off swap
[18:57] <bekks> andybrine: Can you pastebin a screenshot of gparted?
[18:57] <EriC^> hikenboot: you don't need to create a partition table or partitions for the usb
[18:57] <hikenboot> oh ok thats different. no problem thanks
[18:57] <andybrine> will do , one moment bekks
[18:59] <andybrine> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2015-04-03_18_57_31-1tGmvxpl.png
[19:00] <andybrine> thats a screenshot bekks
[19:01] <bekks> andybrine: you would have to move sda2 to the left, sda3 to the left, then expand sda4 to the left, then expand sda5 to the left.
[19:01] <bekks> andybrine: And there is no swap, so no need for it to be deactivated.
[19:02] <neldogz> is there a list that shows which version of the kernel supports which Nvidia driver?
[19:03] <andybrine> ok thanks bekks
[19:04] <andybrine> can I just dran and drop them?
[19:04] <andybrine> how do I move them to the left?
[19:04] <Thenewone> Hi guys i'm back
[19:05] <bekks> andybrine: Point and click, then enter the appropriate values after clicking "Resize".
[19:05] <Thenewone> EriC^, Hi back
[19:07] <hikenboot> EriC^, one more question what key do i press in order to make it boot from the usb thumb drive?
[19:08] <EriC^> hikenboot: you have to set the bios to boot it
[19:08] <andybrine> not sure what you mean. lol. to me that looks like it just changes the size
[19:08] <hikenboot> EriC^, I didnt thing that a mac g5 had a bios that you can go into?
[19:08] <Thenewone> EriC^, i'm in shell now
[19:08] <Thenewone> EriC^, what should i do ?
[19:08] <Bashing-om> Thenewone: Is the base system stable ? boot to terminal to make sure - > at grub 'e' key for edit -> boot options screen; arrow down to the "linux" line and replace "quiet splash" with the term 'text' - with out the quotes; key combo ctl+x to contine to a terminal - TTY1 - ; log in here with user name and password. Then we continue .
[19:09] <EriC^> hikenboot: no idea
[19:09] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, are you sure you are talking to me ?
[19:10] <EriC^> Thenewone: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg openbox obconf
[19:10] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:10] <EriC^> Thenewone: also add lightdm at the end
[19:11] <Bashing-om> Thenewone: Yes, but if EriC^ Has the situation under control, I go back to my lurking mode .
[19:11] <EriC^> Bashing-om: no, by all means join in :)
[19:11] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, sorry i didnt mean that just didnt understand what did you say to me and i said maby you are mistaking the personne
[19:12] <Bashing-om> EriC^: Thenewone :: Each has their own methods of trouble shooting, many paths to one end . Mine is to start from a command line interface is all .
[19:12] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, i'm in the shell
[19:13] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, i just pressed ctr + alt + f1
[19:13] <Thenewone> EriC^, every thing done
[19:13] <EriC^> Bashing-om: he's trying to install openbox on ubuntu server, lightdm loads but it doesn't start the session, same for the guest account
[19:13] <Bashing-om> Thenewone: Presently 2 issues as I see it .. authorisation to access "your" home, and no graphics driver loaded to drive the GUI (??) .
[19:14] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, i think the problem only on authorisation
[19:14] <EriC^> Thenewone: ok, type sudo service lightdm restart
[19:14] <Thenewone> Bashing-om, if the driver is not installed correctly lightdm will not start
[19:14] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:15] <EriC^> Bashing-om: i was thinking the driver might not show unless xorg is running
[19:15] <Thenewone> failed to start session
[19:15] <hkrrsx> Thenewone: by chance, is openbox-session in your /usr/bin directory?
[19:15] <hkrrsx> Thenewone: ls -lh /usr/bin/openbox-session
[19:15] <Thenewone> hkrrsx, i really dont know
[19:15] <Bashing-om> Thenewone: Tjat is true .. must have a proper graphics driver available and loaded . BUT more important is access to /home .
[19:17] <Thenewone> hkrrsx, it give this : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 594 dec 22 2013 /usr/bin/openbox-session
[19:17] <Bashing-om> EriC^: Thenewone Would behoove us to know what graphic(S) cards we are dealing with . -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- so we know what card and if a module is loaded .
[19:17] <hkrrsx> Thenewone: great, thanks for checking
[19:17] <neldogz> How can I install the kernel headers on my Ubuntu 14.10 system? Cant seem to find them via apt-cache?
[19:17] <EriC^> Thenewone: type sudo find /home/<your user> ! -user <your user>
[19:17] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:18] <EriC^> Bashing-om: i think it's a virtualbox os, right Thenewone ?
[19:18] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya
[19:18] <Thenewone> EriC^, i want learn before i install it on my home machine
[19:19] <Bashing-om> EriC^: the -> that puts me in a learning mode ... VM talking to the hardware via the host .. A path I am not experience with ... IN my learning mode .
[19:19] <nicomachus> hey guys, this is kinda halfway off topic, but the #conky channel seems to be totally dead. Does anyone happen to know what syntax the config files are written in? I found a list of objects and variables, just trying to figure out how to put it all together.
[19:21] <neldogz> Can someone confirm if this kernel is recommended for gaming? linux-image-3.16.0-33-lowlatency
[19:21] <Thenewone> EriC^, if this didnt work on virtualbox how will work in real machine ?
[19:21] <acz32> neldogz: since when are kernels tailored to gaming?
[19:21] <loadedanvils> neldogz, I didn't know you could use linux for gaming
[19:22] <nicomachus> loadedanvils: the steam client for linux has vastly improved in the last year.
[19:22] <neldogz> acz32, i am assuming the low latency note on it probably suggests the kernel tickrate is higher than the standard 250
[19:22] <loadedanvils> nicomachus, but there is a very small number of games that you can install
[19:22] <nicomachus> I wouldn't call it very small anymore.
[19:22] <neldogz> loadedanvils, yes you can game on linux. I use the Nvidia prop driver with Steam as my client
[19:22] <acz32> loadedanvils: you consider 1000+ games a very small number?
[19:22] <loadedanvils> I mean, without using wine
[19:22] <nicomachus> check out /r/linux_gaming some time.
[19:23] <nicomachus> it's definitely growing. and quickly.
[19:23] <loadedanvils> nicomachus, I'll do that then
[19:23] <loadedanvils> I wish I could play some dark souls
[19:23] <EriC^> Thenewone: did the find command return anything?
[19:24] <Thenewone> EriC^, sorry didnt understand
[19:24] <EriC^> Thenewone: did you try sudo find /home/<your user> .....?
[19:24] <Thenewone> EriC^, i'm in shell mode ctr+alt+f1
[19:24] <Thenewone> i'm in my home
[19:25] <EriC^> Thenewone: type sudo find /home/<your user> ! -user <your user>
[19:26] <Coolin> part
[19:27] <Thenewone> EriC^, it give me alot of stuf
[19:27] <EriC^> Thenewone: ok, try sudo chown -R <your user>: /home/<your user>
[19:27] <Thenewone> EriC^, /hom/test/==> and .xsession-errors,dmrc.........................
[19:27] <Thenewone> nothing happen
[19:28] <Thenewone> wait
[19:28] <Thenewone> he said invalid user
[19:28] <ramen69> anyone ever got eve to work on linux?
[19:28] <wcfields> Does anyone here have an IP Surveillance Camera? Not totally related to channel, but just looking for recommendations that aren't total crap.
[19:28] <loadedanvils> I wonder if anyone got dark souls to work on linux
[19:29] <Thenewone> EriC^, i didnt
[19:29] <Thenewone> EriC^, i did it*
[19:29] <rebs> its hard loadedanvils
[19:29] <nicomachus> no eve, no dark souls.
[19:29] <OerHeks> loadedanvils, is that a windows game ?
[19:29] <nicomachus> is daftykins gone or something? he's usually pretty quick to order people back ON TOPIC
[19:29] <EriC^> Thenewone: ok, try sudo service lightdm restart and try to login again
[19:30] <Thenewone> Failed to start session
[19:30] <mzaza> I have enabled laptop-mode and configured successfully. However I have noticed when on battery power I have to poweron the laptop and restart the service laptop-mode so it apply the battery profile.
[19:30] <EriC^> Thenewone: is there a box where you type your password that lets you select the session?
[19:30] <OerHeks> EriC^, doesn't he have to switch with ctrl alt F7?
[19:30] <daftykins> nicomachus: me and the other volunteers who care about the rules, yeah :)
[19:30] <daftykins> nicomachus: you're in luck! i just this second came back
[19:30] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya i select the user and i type the password in the field for it
[19:30] <EriC^> OerHeks: nah it will switch to tty7
[19:31] <Thenewone> EriC^, after that it's give this message : Failed to start session
[19:31] <EriC^> Thenewone: if you want, try nano ~/.xinitrc and type exec openbox-session
[19:31] <EriC^> then try startx ( no sudo )
[19:31] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:32] <EriC^> Thenewone: type sudo service lightdm stop first
[19:32] <Thenewone> EriC^, i dont have .xinitrc
[19:32] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:32] <ErfanBs> !dropbox
[19:32] <EriC^> Thenewone: yeah you have to create it
[19:32] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok
[19:34] <Jordan_U> neldogz: I would personally just stick to the -generic kernel. -lowlatency is intended more for live audio processing, and may increase or decrease your latency in a game because in games that are already using a lot of GPU and CPU just having better throughput can decrease your latency, and -lowlatency optimises for latency at the cost of throughput.
[19:34] <Thenewone> EriC^, so i type exec openbox-session ???
[19:34] <Thenewone> EriC^, in the file i creat
[19:34] <EriC^> Thenewone: yes then save and exit
[19:35] <Thenewone> EriC^, when i type a wrong password it give invalid password. please try again when i type the correct oen it give failed
[19:36] <EriC^> what do you mean?
[19:36] <EriC^> you should already be logged into your user's account
[19:36] <Thenewone> EriC^, from the interface lightdm dont work
[19:36] <Thenewone> EriC^, but from the shell ya it's work nice
[19:36] <EriC^> Thenewone: nevermind lightdm for a bit
[19:36] <EriC^> Thenewone: after you save and exit type startx
[19:36] <Thenewone> EriC^,  i will reboot the machine
[19:37] <EriC^> Thenewone: no need..
[19:37] <EriC^> type sudo service lightdm stop
[19:37] <EriC^> then startx
[19:37] <Thenewone> EriC^, it's working
[19:37] <Thenewone> EriC^, coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[19:37] <Thenewone> IT'S WORKING FINALYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
[19:37] <Thenewone> I LOVE LINUX IT'S SO HARD :D
[19:37] <Thenewone> thanks guys :D
[19:37] <EriC^> lol wait
[19:38] <EriC^> Thenewone: do you want to use lightdm?
[19:38] <Thenewone> EriC^, i really dont understand why should i install lightdm and openbox ???
[19:38] <Thenewone> EriC^, i'm noob in linux but this dont make any sense
[19:39] <Thenewone> EriC^, if you have time can you explain where the problem was ?
[19:39] <acz32> then go read the documentation
[19:39] <EriC^> Thenewone: lightdm is the login screen, you can set it up so that when you login to the terminal, it starts openbox, or after you type startx
[19:40] <EriC^> Thenewone: or you can use lightdm and you get a login screen that will start openbox when you login
[19:40] <Thenewone> EriC^, ok if i delete now lightdm this will not cost a problem ?
[19:41] <EriC^> Thenewone: no, but you won't have a nice login screen
[19:41] <akiva-thinkpad> is there a good ubuntu channel to ask about hardware? I want to buy some ~
[19:41] <EriC^> Thenewone: it will boot to ctrl+alt+f1 and you login there
[19:41] <OerHeks> !hcl
[19:42] <EriC^> Thenewone: you can get lightdm to work if you want
[19:42] <SysAdmin7> !tab
[19:42] <jerryt> We're running a Dell server with hardware raid.  When we do IO operations such as extracting a large tar file a kworker process pegs IO at 99% or so.  pref points to cpu_startup_entry.  Any ideas?
[19:42] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya how ?
[19:43] <OerHeks> jerryt, why would such a job that takes 99% bad?
[19:44] <OerHeks> *be bad
[19:44] <jerryt> The throughput is 20M/s
[19:44] <jerryt> Starts off at around 200 - 250.
[19:44] <Thenewone> EriC^, THANKS MAN ALOT FOR YOUR TIME
[19:44] <daftykins> ugh enough caps
[19:45] <EriC^> Thenewone: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[19:45] <SysAdmin7> derp
[19:45] <EriC^> Thenewone: no problem
[19:45] <EriC^> Thenewone: also type cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[19:45] <Jordan_U> EriC^: Do you really intend for them to reconfigure every package on their system, with all of the uneeded prompts that will entail?
[19:46] <jerryt> OerHeks, tar will be using 99% for just a moment and the transfer rate is 200+ then kworker jumps in at 99% and the transfer drops to 20 or below.
[19:46] <EriC^> Thenewone: also type cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:46] <tj83> #chat
[19:46] <EriC^> Jordan_U: good point, didn't know it does that
[19:46] <Jordan_U> Thenewone: Don't run that dpkg-reconfigure command yet.
[19:46] <EriC^> Thenewone: just type sudo dpkg-configure lightdm
[19:46] <EriC^> Thenewone: sorry, sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[19:47] <Thenewone> EriC^, it give me a pachage configuration
[19:47] <EriC^> Thenewone: which command did you run? the -a?
[19:47] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya
[19:47] <Thenewone> EriC^, dpkg-reconfigure -a
[19:49] <EriC^> Jordan_U: how do you kill that in a tty?
[19:49] <Jordan_U> EriC^: Indeed, when using dpkg-reconfigure the priority for questions is set to its lowest value, which means that all questions are asked, even those that have already been answered before or that have sane defaults that work for 99.9% of people. Killing dpkg-reconfigure might be a bad idea :(
[19:51] <EriC^> i ran it here
[19:52] <EriC^> dunno
[19:52] <EriC^> i'll try restarting
[19:53] <EriC^> i killed it with kill -9 but dpkg is still locked
[19:53] <daftykins> !aptlock
[19:53] <daftykins> :D
[19:53] <Jordan_U> EriC^: Yeah, killing dpkg is bad.
[19:53] <EriC^> it probably writes everything at the end right though?
[19:54] <EriC^> first question is about user readable home dirs
[19:54] <EriC^> Thenewone: you still there?
[19:55] <Thenewone> EriC^, ya
[19:55] <EriC^> ah, this is still running /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/adduser.config reconfigure 3.113+nmu3ubuntu3
[19:55] <EriC^> i think it's ok
[19:55] <Jordan_U> EriC^: I think the best course of action is to just go through the hassle of "hitting OK" as many times as needed :(
[19:56] <EriC^> Jordan_U: but it seems to just call the scripts one after another
[19:58] <EriC^> Jordan_U: ok, pressing ok on the first choice changed the user dir perms for new users
[19:58] <EriC^> let me see if killing it change anything
[19:59] <Jordan_U> EriC^: I wouldn't want to kill dpkg if it were only for a dpkg-reconfigure of a single package either. It's probably an over cautious approach, but I don't know enough about the dark magic of dpkg to say that for sure, and breaking dpkg can be bad. At the same time, I would have hoped that choosing the defauls would lead to no net change in configuration, but you seem to be saying that's not the case.
[20:00] <Jordan_U> Thenewone: Please stay on the line :)
[20:01] <EriC^> Jordan_U: yeah, i just tried to kill it and the option it had before is still there
[20:01] <Thenewone> Jordan_U, it's ok :D
[20:01] <Guest44182> Hi! Ubuntu 14.04 MATE desktop. I want to set it to not start the DE...as in, I can SSH into it. Where do I modify the runlevel and which do I choose? Thanks.
[20:01] <EriC^> i think no harm is done
[20:01] <EriC^> i'll try restarting anyways just to see
[20:03] <blaine_> i have a fresh machine, and am trying to install via the net install image. booting from USB drive. during install, partition setup won't recognize /dev/sda. EVEN THOUGH fdisk -l shows it, and i can partition it directly (successfully) with fdisk. any thoughts on wtf?
[20:03] <EriC^^> seems ok
[20:03] <EriC^^> any way to check dpkg is all good?
[20:04] <andybrine> Thanks for your help bekks, got it sorted. Its going to take some time but should be sorted soon :)
[20:04] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Is /dev/sda simply not listed in the partition setup, or is it listed but appears empty when it should have partitions?
[20:04] <blaine_> Jordan_U: not listed at all. BUT /dev/sdb (my USB drive) is listed
[20:05] <EriC^^> just tried using dpkg -i , no errors
[20:05] <blaine_> there's also two messages, asking if i want to 'enable' raid devices that were found (mdam containers). i've tried all combinations of yes/no but it makes no difference
[20:05] <EriC^^> Thenewone: i think it'll be ok
[20:05] <EriC^^> Thenewone: try sudo pkill dpkg
[20:05] <EriC^^> in ctrl+alt+f2
[20:05] <blaine_> also, i've booted in all combinations of IDE, ACSI, legacy, native etc
[20:05] <Jordan_U> blaine_: I was just about to ask if the drive had every been part of a RAID array :)
[20:05] <Thenewone> EriC^^, i rebooted the machine
[20:05] <Jordan_U> s/every/ever/
[20:06] <Thenewone> EriC^^, how should run the dpkg
[20:06] <EriC^^> Thenewone: ok, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[20:06] <blaine_> Jordan_U: nope! it's totally fresh. not sure why it's asking me about raid -- there may be a hardware controller (maybe?) but it appears to be disabled in bios
[20:06] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo wipefs /dev/sda".
[20:06] <blaine_> Jordan_U: k one sec (i'll have to type it, as this is a physical machine)
[20:07] <Thenewone> EriC^^, i'm root now
[20:07] <Thenewone> EriC^^, wait
[20:08] <Thenewone> EriC^^, nothing happen
[20:09] <EriC^^> Thenewone: ok, type cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:10] <blaine_> Jordan_U: no wipefs on the net install image
[20:10] <ycyclist> I cannot seem to get a simple go lang script to work with postgres on my Ubuntu.  It appears I have a package missing:  cannot find package "github.com/lib/pq"
[20:10] <Thenewone> EriC^^, the folder lightdm is empty just one file in users.conf
[20:11] <EriC^^> oh
[20:11] <EriC^^> you should have a file there called lightdm.conf
[20:11] <EriC^^> this is mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733044/
[20:12] <Thenewone> ok i will creat one
[20:12] <blaine_> Jordan_U: any other thoughts?
[20:13] <EriC^^> Thenewone: oh nevermind, it doesn't come by default but you can add it if you want
[20:13] <EriC^^> give it a shot anyways it won't harm
[20:13] <Thenewone> EriC^^, ok :D
[20:13] <EriC^^> add mine there, and replace ubuntu with openbox
[20:14] <Thenewone> ok thanks
[20:14] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Is apt-get in the netboot image? Can you boot from a LiveCD/USB?
[20:16] <EriC^^> Thenewone: type dpkg -l | grep greeter
[20:16] <EriC^^> Thenewone: you might need to change the greeter too
[20:17] <Jordan_U> blaine_: "sudo blkid /dev/sda" could give us some of the same info wipefs would, if blkid is available.
[20:18] <syntroPi> when im using libvirt (via virt.manager/kvm) and want to have my images on an external (ntfs) usb disk, which permissions would that need? Currently its rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2 and it LOOKs like 777 but actially its not.. :-/
[20:19] <Thenewone> EriC^^, ii unity-greeter   14.0.11-0ubuntu
[20:19] <Thenewone> 1 amd64 Unity Greeter
[20:19] <blaine_> Jordan_U: interesting -- UUID="Dell ^P(" TYPE="ddf_raid_member"
[20:19] <blaine_> that's it
[20:20] <Desu> Jordan_U: lsblk > blkid
[20:20] <EriC^^> ok, no need to change it
[20:20] <blaine_> sdb at least has label, type, etc.
[20:20] <blaine_> Desu: i dont have lsblk
[20:20] <EriC^^> Thenewone: save the file then type sudo service lightdm restart
[20:20] <Desu> blaine_: debian?
[20:20] <Desu> er.. s/debian/ancient ubuntu/
[20:20] <Thenewone> EriC^^, ok
[20:20] <blaine_> Desu: ubuntu net install w/ unrecognized hdd in the installer
[20:20] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Yup. Wipefs would have given us the offset of those signatures, and allowed us to easily and safely remove them.
[20:21] <blaine_> Jordan_U: interesting -- so is it something ON the disk itself, or is it a bug in the installer?
[20:21] <blaine_> maybe i just need to go get a usb dvdrom device
[20:21] <neutralizer> do you know where should I create uxterm config file so they always show truetype fonts and in tiny size?
[20:21] <blaine_> i wonder why it is a ddf_raid_member, that doesn't make sense if it's a fresh drive? maybe the client had something installed and didn't do a clean wipe
[20:22] <Jordan_U> blaine_: It's something on the disk itself. I would argue that it's also a bug that the installer doesn't warn you better, and explain why it's refusing to work with the drive rather than just not showing it.
[20:22] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: sudo dmraid -E -r /dev/sda (??) would that not remove that embedded raid data ?
[20:23] <blaine_> Bashing-om: i tried that, but it had some errors
[20:23] <EriC^^> Thenewone: any luck?
[20:23] <Bashing-om> blaine_: Waters are getting deep, and deeper .
[20:23] <blaine_> Bashing-om: yeah it's weird. can i just nuke it somehow?
[20:24] <Thenewone> EriC^^, i think i was smart i add in this line 'autologin-user=( my account name )' lol
[20:24] <Thenewone> it's restaring again and again
[20:24] <EriC^^> Thenewone: no that's for autologin
[20:24] <Thenewone> i deleted what i did
[20:24] <Thenewone> EriC^^, i deleted that
[20:24] <EriC^^> you have to have no password set for it to work i think
[20:25] <EriC^^> ok, try sudo service lightdm restart again
[20:25] <Thenewone> EriC^^, and rebooted but it's still restart the login screen
[20:25] <Bashing-om> blaine_: Jordan_U is the guru here .. IF it were me I would resort to a hex editor, and wipe the first of the drive // Jordan_U can we do that with 'dd' ??
[20:25] <Thenewone> EriC^^, ok
[20:25] <Jordan_U> blaine_: The signatures are probably in the first MiB, last MiB, or both of the drive.
[20:25] <blaine_> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/nxqtSdpM
[20:25] <raschy> Anyone that might be able to help? I've got an Elantech touchpad that wont move the cursor but will let me left click
[20:26] <blaine_> Jordan_U: is there a tool for resetting that?
[20:26] <Thenewone> EriC^^, it's working
[20:26] <Thenewone> i will do all this again
[20:26] <Thenewone> to save it in my minde
[20:26] <Thenewone> EriC^^, thanks alot
[20:27] <EriC^^> ok
[20:27] <EriC^^> no problem
[20:27] <Thenewone> EriC^^, is the best cooooooooooool LINUX FOR HARDCORGAMERS
[20:27] <Atomic_pO2mo> rashy turn your touchpad off through terminal and make generic usb the master
[20:27] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Yes, wipefs :) Since we don't have that, we can try dding zeros into the first and last MiB of the drive. The drive has no important data on it currently, correct?
[20:28] <Bashing-om> blaine_: That offset advisory is above my skill set, I just do not know .
[20:28] <Jordan_U> blaine_: I'm also trying to find exactly where ddf_raid_member metadata is stored, so we can be a little more precise and sure about things.
[20:28] <raschy> Atomic_p02mo how would I go about doing that?
[20:29] <blaine_> Jordan_U: ok cool. i'll hunt around too. and yes, no data should be on this drive
[20:29] <blaine_> meaning, we can nuke it
[20:30] <blaine_> Jordan_U: http://www.physics.uc.edu/~bryantln/documentation/badtype.html ?
[20:31] <Jordan_U> blaine_: That seems to imply that the signature (or at least one copy of it) is at the end of the drive, but the instructions aren't very good (they don't say what size their HD is or how they came up with that seek= value).
[20:32] <kokut> Hello, is there a way to choose the lcd speakers instead of the ones from the notebook?
[20:33] <kokut> nvm i think i found it
[20:33] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Trying "mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sda" can't hurt.
[20:33] <blaine_> Jordan_U: did that -- couldn't open for write - not zeroing
[20:33] <blaine_> Jordan_U: maybe i'll dd the entire drive?
[20:33] <blaine_> with /dev/zero
[20:34] <kokut> Nope, i
[20:34] <kokut> I tried muting the laptop ones and not the lcd ones (HDMI) and it doesn't work
[20:35] <Jordan_U> blaine_: That will work, though it's overkill.
[20:36] <blaine_> heh. well, if we cant find which exact byte to do it is at least a plan b
[20:36] <kokut> cool now i can't hear anything
[20:37] <EriC^^> kokut: try pavucontrol
[20:37] <syntroPi> Im trying to mount an ntfs usb hdd properly (with permission handling) in /etc/fstab. How can I get it mounted to that i can grant other users on my system to write to it?
[20:37] <EriC^^> kokut: usually just selecting the hdmi output in settings > sound switches it to hdmi
[20:38] <kokut> k found it, ty
[20:39] <EriC^^> syntroPi: try to mount it with fmask=000,dmask=000
[20:40] <blaine_> Jordan_U: nuking with dd /dev/zero, let's see if this works (ty for the help so far btw)
[20:41] <EriC^^> kokut: np
[20:42] <syntroPi> EriC^^, i tried the first answer from http://askubuntu.com/questions/92863/mount-ntfs-partition-at-startup-with-non-root-user-as-owner    but mount seems to just ignore my fstab and instead tells me "Using default user mapping"
[20:45] <Jordan_U> blaine_: You're welcome.
[20:48] <EriC^^> syntroPi: do you want it to automount when the system boots? do you want users to be able to execute stuff?
[20:48] <syntroPi> EriC^^, how can files appear as 777 but not be writeable?
[20:49] <EriC^^> syntroPi: you mean you only want them to be able to read the files?
[20:50] <syntroPi> EriC^^, what im trying is to deploy vm's with virt-manager (libvirt/kvm) on an external usb-hdd (ntfs). libvirt runs under another user hence i have to mount it differently so it can write to it
[20:50] <OerHeks> NTFS cannot handle posix fileattrib, change that usb in ext4 would be a solution
[20:51] <syntroPi> OerHeks, not an option there is already too much files on it
[20:52] <syntroPi> OerHeks, and it seems that it may be possible that NTFS can handle posix fileattribs, there is permissions and also user mapping
[20:52] <sinthetek> i'm trying to reset my xorg and video driver config to the default state ubuntu provides (on 14.10). tried out fglrx and when i tried to revert back to default, compiz is using way too much cpu, video is choppy etc despite dri being active
[20:52] <EriC^^> syntroPi: i think everytime it mounts it will set all files to have to same permissions, it doesn't save them across mounts
[20:53] <EriC^^> *the
[20:53] <thomast> bonsoir tous le monde
[20:54] <sinthetek> originally i was trying to improve flashplugin performance when playing on an external monitor but fglrx wouldn't adjust brightness etc
[20:54] <thomast> jai une question quelquun peux maider?
[20:55] <syntroPi> EriC^^, well id be fine with that as long as libvirt can write to it. files now appear owned by root and 777 but libvirt cannot write to them
[20:55] <OerHeks> !fr | thomast
[20:55] <OerHeks> english only in this channel please, thomast
[20:57] <syntroPi> Regardless from what i state in fstab it ALWAYS appears as (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[20:57] <syntroPi> my fstab entry now is /dev/sdc1    /media/master/Elements  ntfs      nls=iso8859-1,permissions,users,umask=000       0       0
[20:58] <syntroPi> i might blame fuse for that?
[20:59] <Jordan_U> syntroPi: How are you remounting after changing your fstab?
[20:59] <syntroPi> umount /media/master/Elements   then mount /media/master/Elements
[21:00] <Jordan_U> syntroPi: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts .
[21:04] <syntroPi> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733448/
[21:13] <m7t> anyone using atom ide for programing?
[21:14] <syntroPi> Jordan_U, it has to read from fstab since it knows its sdc1 but it wont honor the options stated there for some obscure reason
[21:15] <Jordan_U> syntroPi: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[21:16] <syntroPi> Jordan_U, mounting and unmounting leaves no msg there at all
[21:17] <EriC^^> syntroPi: what exactly are the permissions you want? mount won't state them but if you ls -l in the dir you'll see them set
[21:19] <syntroPi> EriC^^, ls -l yields "drwxrwxrwx 1 root root       0 Apr  3 22:09 vm"  but still libvirt wont write to that
[21:20] <EriC^^> syntroPi: you mean ls -l on the mountpoint?
[21:21] <EriC^^> syntroPi: what's the mountpoint?
[21:22] <syntroPi> EriC^^, its also that 777 root before mounting and after as well
[21:23] <EriC^^> syntroPi: ok, where are you mounting it?
[21:23] <syntroPi> EriC^^, changed it now to /media/Elements hmm you think nautilus interferes? lemme try somewhere else
[21:24] <EriC^^> syntroPi: only the user Elements can read that dir
[21:25] <syntroPi> tried now /mnt/Elements --- no fun :-(
[21:25] <EriC^^> syntroPi: ok, type ls -l /mnt/Elements
[21:25] <EriC^^> sorry
[21:25] <EriC^^> ls -ld /mnt/Elements
[21:25] <blaine_> Jordan_U: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 seek=$(( $(blockdev --getsz /dev/sda)-1024)) count=1024
[21:25] <blaine_> that appears to have worked, blkid returns nothing now
[21:25] <blaine_> looks like my meta data was stored at the *end* of the device
[21:27] <syntroPi> EriC^^, yup still that 777 root root
[21:27] <syntroPi> why are there options for ntfs-3g when they are being ignored completely?
[21:27] <EriC^^> syntroPi: ok with your user, can you type touch /mnt/Elements/bla
[21:29] <teward> is rsync an effective replacement for cp if you're copying data from one folder to another within the same ownership/permissions space...?  (such as one folder in my home directory to another)
[21:29] <Bashing-om> blaine_: Thanks for the update. Confirms the "offset" advisory, huh .
[21:29] <syntroPi> EriC^^, yup success 777 root as usual
[21:30] <EriC^^> syntroPi: so you can write to it?
[21:30] <syntroPi> even stopped udisk2 service now, no difference
[21:30] <syntroPi> yup can write
[21:31] <Artej> hi
[21:31] <Jordan_U> blaine_: Great. I expect that the installer will be happy with the disk now as well.
[21:31] <Artej> how do I allow ssh on my ubuntu machine?
[21:31] <daftykins> Artej: install openssh-server
[21:32] <Artej> I mean allow access from outside my LAN
[21:32] <Artej> ports are already forwarded
[21:32] <blaine_> Jordan_U: can confirm, installer is happy as a clam
[21:32] <Artej> but I still can't access ssh
[21:32] <daftykins> Artej: single port, 22 - not ports plural
[21:32] <Artej> 22 is open
[21:32] <Artej> yes
[21:32] <blaine_> Bashing-om: yeah for sure. definitely learned something today!
[21:32] <daftykins> Artej: then you must have forwarded it to the wrong LAN IP
[21:33] <Artej> is there some built in firewall because I am sure it's forwarded to right machine
[21:33] <syntroPi> i bet its some gnome or fuse black magic, dangit
[21:34] <syntroPi> something that "makes users life" easier
[21:34] <EriC^^> syntroPi: if your user can write to it, then it's something to do with the libvrt etc.
[21:35] <EriC^^> not fstab
[21:35] <rypervenche> Artej: Not enabled by default. Either your daemon is not listening, not on the right IP/port, or the firewall is to blame.
[21:35] <daftykins> Artej: run "netstat -tuln" on your system and look for ":22" listening. note that you likely can't SSH to your own external IP from inside your network, get someone else to try.
[21:35] <mamece2> Im back.. who canhelp me with my login problem? I log in and the pc hangs. Screen looks awful
[21:36] <syntroPi> EriC^^, but why does it always mount with fuseblk and the same options regardless from what i write in fstab??
[21:36] <EriC^^> syntroPi: it doesn't, try sudo umount /mnt/Elements, then put other options like fmask=777,dmask=777
[21:37] <EriC^^> it should mount with -------- as permissions
[21:37] <Bashing-om> mamece2: If you boot to terminal, system is stable ? What errors are generated when starting the GUI from terminal ?
[21:37] <FOx__> سثقرثق هقؤزةسىهقؤزىثف
[21:37] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I can ssh to the pc, everything is good at CLI. I cant do anything when i log in at GUI level
[21:38] <syntroPi> EriC^^, well yeah that changed permissions to none but the fuseblk is still that
[21:39] <cuddylier> How do I kill this process?
[21:39] <cuddylier> tcp6       0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:25565      :::*                    LISTEN      -
[21:39] <cuddylier> It has no process ID but it's using up port 25565 on that IP
[21:39] <EriC^^> fuseblk is the partition type i think
[21:39] <EriC^^> filesystem type*
[21:39] <Bashing-om> mamece2: OK, good .. what then are we working with graphics' wise ? -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- .
[21:39] <YvesLevier> plz how to change a room subject?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> YvesLevier: Please ask in #freenode for network related questions.
[21:40] <YvesLevier> Thx jordan
[21:40] <Jordan_U> YvesLevier: You're welcome.
[21:40] <EriC^^> cuddylier: try lsof -i :25565
[21:41] <cuddylier> EriC^^ I have lots of processes on other IPs on port 25565 so I need to kill only that one.
[21:41] <EriC^^> grep for it maybe
[21:42] <cuddylier> EriC^^ Do you know an example command i can use?
[21:43] <EriC^^> lsof -i :25565 | grep <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:43] <hkrrsx> cuddylier: can you telnet to localhost on port 25565? If so, do you get any headers in return?
[21:43] <EriC^^> the second column should be the pid
[21:46] <skinux> What is the proper permissions of a directory for PHP to be able to write to it under /var/www?
[21:46] <cuddylier> hkrrsx: I have lots of processes on different Ips on port 25565
[21:49] <hkrrsx> cuddylier: my apologizes
[21:52] <Bashing-om> !paste | mamece2 Playing catch up ?
[21:53] <mamece2> Bashing-om: OMG sorry i got distracted. this is the command results http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733705/
[21:54] <Bashing-om> mamece2: :) .. look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733705/ .
[21:55] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I confirm is a NVIDIA card, that is true, I reinstalled the drivers as instructed in askubuntu.com . I am here because i tried everything, this is the last stand
[21:55] <syntroPi> EriC^^, reinstalled virtmanager seems to work now
[21:58] <daftykins> Artej: solved it?
[21:58] <Artej> daftykins: it's a mystery :/
[21:58] <pid1> I've switched back to Ubuntu after being on Arch for a long time. How painful will the upgrade be between 14.10 and 15.04? The only packages I have installed outside of apt-get or umake are Chrome and Sublime Text.
[21:58] <syntroPi> EriC^^, before i was using virtualbox but since i lost some data because my Xorg crashed mi trying to have something that doesnt depend on gnome-shells (in)stability
[21:58] <daftykins> Artej: hmm shouldn't be :P you understand what i said about not being able to test from your own network, right?
[21:59] <bekks> syntroPi: Virtualbox doesnt depend on a working X.
[21:59] <syntroPi> i hope that qemu / libvirt backend is more stable and survives such desasters
[21:59] <Artej> daftykins: testing from mobile connection I have
[21:59] <daftykins> so that might block it too
[21:59] <daftykins> Artej: try using grc.com :>
[21:59] <syntroPi> bekks, are you refering to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagrant_(software)
[22:00] <antonio_> hello good evening from Spain
[22:00] <bekks> syntroPi: Entirely no. You can run Virtualbox machines headless, no need for X. You can manage them using VBoxManage, no need for X either.
[22:02] <syntroPi> bekks, what is the parent process for such a virtual machine then?
[22:03] <bekks> syntroPi: The same as for every VirtualBox VM: VBoxSVC
[22:03] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Near as I can tell you should be runing the 304 version of the nvidia driver ( if ya require proprietary) .. is this a lap top machine, notebook or desktop ?
[22:04] <mamece2> Bashing-om: its a desktop
[22:05] <Bashing-om> mamece2: OK, what version driver did you install and from what source ? The output do say that a Nvidia driver is loaded .
[22:05] <syntroPi> bekks, hmm well for me it crashed my vm's when started from the gui, and my first impression on libvirt it that it runs much faster
[22:06] <sam_> こんにちは
[22:08] <syntroPi> !jp sam_
[22:08] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I follow the steps as instructed in askubuntu, I cant remember the excat command and its not in the history. extrange..
[22:08] <syntroPi> !jp | sam_
[22:09] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I remember I didnt install the 304 version, I went for the command that installs the last version
[22:10] <Bashing-om> mamece2: The file in /var/log/Xorg.0.log will relate what version was built .. I have confirmed you should be running the 304 version .
[22:11] <mamece2> Bashing-om: please take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733900/
[22:11] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/10733900/ .
[22:12] <daftykins> mamece2: that machine hasn't even been updated yet
[22:12] <mamece2> daftykins: what do u mean?
[22:13] <daftykins> mamece2: the kernel is an old one, so you've not installed updates :)
[22:13] <daftykins> also your setup isn't working because your display doesn't talk over VGA properly
[22:13] <daftykins> (if that's what's wrong, or maybe it's just on the wrong resolution)
[22:14] <mamece2> daftykins: I will update and upgrade.
[22:16] <[[thufir]]> I'm on trusty, but can't find the yate softphone client to install:  http://pastebin.com/wdKvC7FS
[22:16] <Thenewone> Hi guys how can i install sddm on ubuntu ?
[22:16] <Thenewone> i tryed sudo apt-get install sddm but nothing
[22:16] <bekks> !info sddm
[22:16] <Bashing-om> mamece2: daftykins ( :) ) .. CRT -1 ?/ Old old hardware .. disable 3d also per the log file .??
[22:17] <Thenewone> how to add it ?
[22:17] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: what's wrong with 'yate' in your package results?
[22:17] <bekks> Thenewone: what is this "sddm"?
[22:17] <Thenewone> or any other way to install it
[22:17] <mamece2> Bashing-om: the problems started when I connected my new monitor. I always used the old crt
[22:17] <Thenewone> bekks, display manager like lightdm
[22:17] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I'd love to solve the problem using the new one
[22:17] <[[thufir]]> daftykins: that's the server, I just want the client.  (it's like ekiga)
[22:18] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: why does it use the word 'client' in the name then? :)
[22:18] <daftykins> ah no i was just then reading the line below
[22:18] <daftykins> yate-qt4
[22:19] <[[thufir]]> heh, err, thanks...
[22:19] <Thenewone> how install sddm plz ?
[22:19]  * [[thufir]] slinks away
[22:21] <mirak> hello
[22:22] <mirak> is there a way to record the install for ncurses to be able to play it again ?
[22:22] <mirak> unatented ?
[22:22] <bekks> mirak: What are you actually trying to do?
[22:22] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Think'n ..gimme a bit . as to why the kernel is not seeing the new monitor .
[22:23] <mirak> bekks: I want to setup a vm at home, then replicate the installation at work.
[22:24] <mamece2> I am doing update && upgrade, then I will reboot with the new monitor plugged in
[22:24] <hkrrsx> Thenewone: According to the github page, https://github.com/sddm/sddm, there's a #sddm channel
[22:24] <bekks> mirak: Just clone the VM - or remember the command how you installed ncurses.
[22:24] <hkrrsx> sddm on irc.freenode.net
[22:24] <hkrrsx> sddm-devel on irc.freenode.net
[22:24] <Thenewone> hkrrsx,  thanks
[22:24] <mamece2> Bashing-om: nvidia-304 will upgrade
[22:24] <hkrrsx> :)
[22:25] <mirak> bekks: i would of course clone if could just plug a hard drive at work, that's not allowed at all.
[22:25] <acz32> i have ubuntu in a VM and installed virtualbox-guest-additions-iso and rebooted, but the VM window still won't expand or auto-resize. any ideas?
[22:25] <mirak> bekks: about ncurse, yes i install with ncurse, though I was hoping there would a way to replay such an installation.
[22:25] <mirak> but seem it's not possible
[22:26] <mirak> thks
[22:26] <Ivannnnnn> hi all
[22:26] <Thenewone> hi
[22:26] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Go ahead, the kernel is some kind of smart, let it upgrade the grahics driver\, reboot and let's then see what the situation is .
[22:27] <acz32> bekks: i've seen you helping in #vbox. maybe you would know
[22:28] <mamece2> Bashing-om: thank you for your help. lets see hwo this goes
[22:28] <bekks> acz32: Well, I'd use a vbox release from www.virtualbox.org, remove all installed guest additions packages, and install the guest additions as described in the vbox manual.
[22:28] <Bashing-om> mamece2: K, fingers crossed, like I say the kernel is some kind of smart . Update/upgrade can do wonders .
[22:29] <netixon> test
[22:30] <acz32> bekks: can i apt-get purge the package i installed or is that not enough?
[22:30] <bekks> acz32: Yeah, and all other packages with virtualbox in its name, in the guest.
[22:30] <acz32> ok
[22:31] <acz32> the auto-resize option from the virtualbox 'View' menu was greyed out
[22:31] <acz32> will try this
[22:32] <brandy_m> hi all
[22:33] <Ivannnnnn> brandy
[22:33] <Ivannnnnn> vlezni vbox
[22:33] <Ivannnnnn> D:
[22:33] <loadedanvils> hey all
[22:33] <loadedanvils> how do I get gnome 3.16?
[22:34] <loadedanvils> currently running ubuntu gnome 14.10, gnome-shell 3.14
[22:37] <marus> is there any fix to that?https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1354924
[22:37] <hkrrsx> loadedanvils: Please see the "Getting GNOME 3.16" section at the bottom of http://www.webupd8.org/2015/03/gnome-316-released-with-new.html
[22:37] <loadedanvils> yeah, I saw it hkrrsx
[22:38] <loadedanvils> 15.04 should be coming out in 20 days
[22:39] <hkrrsx> loadedanvils: Per https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging/?field.series_filter=vivid , "The packages here have been deemed not ready for general use, they have  known bugs and/or regressions, sometimes of a critical nature."
[22:39] <hkrrsx> TL;DR: use at your own risk
[22:39]  * hkrrsx digresses
[22:39] <loadedanvils> I saw that site too
[22:39] <loadedanvils> is there a way to download the packages from that page directly?
[22:39] <acz32> bekks: it worked. the guest additions iso in the ubuntu repo was the problem then
[22:40] <bekks> acz32: The version mismatch between the installed vbox version and the guest additions version was the problem :)
[22:41] <hkrrsx> loadedanvils: read the "Adding this PPA to your system" section of the launchpad page
[22:41] <loadedanvils> hkrrsx, I did read it
[22:42] <hkrrsx> loadedanvils: If you follow those instructions, you should be able to get GNOME 3.16
[22:42] <acz32> bekks: well glad i got it working now. still some issues like when i re-size the panel stays in its old position until i refresh the screen, but works good enough
[22:45] <pid1> I've switched back to Ubuntu after being on Arch for a long time. How painful will the upgrade be between 14.10 and 15.04? The only packages I have installed outside of apt-get or umake are Chrome and Sublime Text.
[22:46] <pid1> Are there any "best practices" I should go through before upgrading?
[22:47] <Bashing-om> pid1: Disable 3rd pary sources, update/upgrade 14.10 , disable sceen saver -> go for it .
[22:47] <Bashing-om> screen saver *
[22:48] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | pid1
[22:48] <azizLIGHT> i wnat to press "page up" and "page down" when numlock is off and cause it to do "media previous" and "media next" for my music player but only when numlock is off. please what can i use to do this?
[22:49] <azizLIGHT> i dont have previous track / next track keys on my keybvoard
[22:49] <mamece2> Bashing-om: the problem remains. It is all good until I log in. then the screen get black, the left border is distorted and the pc is hanged
[22:49] <pid1> Bashing-om, Since when does Ubuntu have a screensaver?
[22:49] <Njanta> please http://yhqz.oblogs.ru/180245460/2566850/
[22:51] <mamece2> Bashing-om: daftykins: at least its responding at cli level. the GUi is frozen
[22:51] <mamece2> Bashing-om: daftykins: the mouse pointer is not frozen
[22:52] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Shucks, what does the xorg log file relate now ?
[22:52] <Bashing-om> pid1: I do, but I do not run unity or gnome :) .
[22:53] <pid1> Ah.
[22:53] <vilugao> how to list packages not updated using apt-get? I updated and upgraded some hour ago, but now apt-get shows that I have 3 packages not updated.
[22:54] <Ghostxmaster4> i
[22:54] <Ghostxmaster4> hi
[22:54] <mamece2> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10734151/ this is the xorg log
[22:54] <Ghostxmaster4> hello
[22:54] <Ghostxmaster4> ?
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Ghostxmaster4> h
[22:55] <Bashing-om> mamece2: reading .
[22:55] <kokut> Ghostxmaster4: hi
[22:55] <mamece2> Bashing-om:  why still the CRT-1 if its connected to the new lcd monitor
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> hi kokut
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> hello
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> l
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> l
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> l
[22:56] <kokut> Ghostxmaster4: sup mufugga
[22:56] <Ghostxmaster4> l
[22:56] <daftykins> mamece2: 'cause you're using VGA likely.
[22:56] <kokut> aw man why u ban him he wasn't even cursing
[22:57] <loadedanvils> he was being annoying
[22:57] <kokut> it's friday night
[22:58] <owen--> Hello all. Just wondering if anyone knows of an application I could use on my Kubuntu that does session management? i.e. an application that can open several different file types depending on what project I'm working on.
[22:58] <Bashing-om> mamece2: " Samsung SyncMaster (CRT-1) (connected) " ... huh ? why ? oh why ? is the new display an LCD device ?
[22:59] <mamece2> Bashing-om: yes a the new monitor, a LCD .  idk why it keeps looggin a CRT-1
[22:59] <hkrrsx> owen--: would you elaborate on the file types in question
[23:00] <DaCoolMaster> owen--: what file types?
[23:01] <lior> ubuntu is the shit!
[23:02] <owen--> hkrrsx: Lets say I need to have 8 pdf, 3 libre office, perhaps two text files. Just wondering if there was a project/session management application that would open all these files depending on what job/project I was working with..
[23:02] <Bashing-om> mamece2: The driver is very unhappy " (WW) NVIDIA(0): Unable to support custom viewPortOut 1920 x 1080 +0 +0 " and lots of other warnings ... how are you connecting the display ? HDMI VGA ? a converter that the driver is not pleased with ?
[23:03] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I only have a CGA cable
[23:03] <mamece2> vga*
[23:03] <hkrrsx> owen--: I was hoping you were going to say web development files b/c then I'd say Sublime Text .... however
[23:04] <DaCoolMaster> So, i installed an application a couple of days ago but can't remember the name, is there anything i can do to find it?
[23:04] <Bashing-om> mamece2: daftykins ^^ is it time to look at the Xorg.conf file ?
[23:05] <daftykins> there shouldn't be one :)
[23:05] <owen--> hkrrsx: Is that domething that does file uploads to the web server when saving html, php files, like what bluefish used to do?
[23:05] <daftykins> if mamece2 isn't going to move off VGA, there'll be some trickery needed yeah
[23:06] <OerHeks> DaCoolMaster, easy, open softwarecenter or synaptic and goto history
[23:06] <DaCoolMaster> OerHeks: yea just thought about it, ty
[23:06] <zamba> how do i add the following url to my apt sources.list?
[23:06] <zamba> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/xiph/
[23:06] <hkrrsx> owen--: Observe: http://www.sublimetext.com/
[23:06] <Desu> zamba: uhm
[23:06] <Desu> zamba: that makes no sense
[23:06] <zamba> according to icecast developers it should be possible to add this as a PPA
[23:07] <zamba> i'm running 14.04
[23:07] <Desu> you want the correct subdir
[23:07] <zamba> and then you have the following: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/xiph/xUbuntu_14.04/ ?
[23:07] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Is that why the display is seen as a CRT rather than the new LCD monitor ? 'cuase I sure do not know .
[23:09] <daftykins> Bashing-om: as i mentioned earlier a few times, VGA :)
[23:10] <mamece2> daftykins: i cant believe it, i need to move form vga? D:
[23:10] <OerHeks> zamba, don't use suse packages, see their website and add the SVN or git  https://xiph.org/downloads/
[23:10] <Bashing-om> daftykins: K. swap the cable out to HDMI ?
[23:10] <zamba> OerHeks: this is the official packages from icecast
[23:10] <zamba> http://icecast.org/download/
[23:10] <mamece2> Bashing-om: let me check if i have one of those..
[23:10] <vok`> msg nickserv identify g4nd41f7h3gr3y
[23:10] <zamba> vok`: winning!
[23:10] <vok`> lol
[23:11] <OerHeks> zamba, since when does opensuse provide .deb packages?
[23:11] <zamba> OerHeks: i know they host files for owncloud as well
[23:11] <OerHeks> vok`, time to change password
[23:12] <OerHeks> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[23:12] <vok`> OerHeks, indeed. Thanks.
[23:13] <mamece2> Bashing-om: daftykins its not fair I had my crt and everything was good
[23:13] <AegNuddel> Does anyone know how I find out the name of the location of my usb key on Linux?
[23:13] <OerHeks> AegNuddel, type: mount
[23:14] <OerHeks> it should be at the bottom of the list
[23:15] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Well. I can commiserate. I had a similar issue when we swapped out the wife's display . Did not like the adpator .. new cable fixed that issue .
[23:16] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I will try with a hdmi cable. brb
[23:16] <AegNuddel> hmmm
[23:18] <AegNuddel>  /dev/sdc1 on /media/Lexar ?
[23:18] <Bashing-om> mamece2: K. Again, fingers crossed .
[23:19] <OerHeks> AegNuddel, cd  /media/Lexar
[23:19] <OerHeks> media would be the standard place to mount it yes
[23:19] <daftykins> heh so now there's an HDMI cable. hrmm.
[23:19] <mamece2> Bashing-om: I feel scammed this monitor doesnt have HDMI port LOL
[23:22] <AegNuddel> so what path do I put to reference it OerHeks ?
[23:23] <vok`> Thanks for not making fun of me guys.
[23:23] <AegNuddel>  /dev/sdc1/media/Lexar ?
[23:23] <vok`> When I accidentally showed my password, I mean.
[23:23] <vok`> lol
[23:24] <AegNuddel> or just
[23:24] <OerHeks> vok`, no problem
[23:24] <mamece2> I will try with the TV
[23:24] <AegNuddel>  /dev/sdc1/?
[23:24] <OerHeks> AegNuddel, to copy file to/from ?
[23:24] <AegNuddel> yeah
[23:24] <AegNuddel> a terminal appplication is asking for t
[23:25] <AegNuddel> application
[23:25] <AegNuddel> so
[23:25] <AegNuddel> sorta in a way
[23:25] <Bashing-om> mamece2: I find that there is no HDMIport on a LCD display hard to accept. look close (??) .
[23:26] <mamece2> Bashing-om: yep , ino... what a piece of c...
[23:27] <mamece2> Bashing-om: Im testing with the TV
[23:27] <OerHeks> AegNuddel, to be sure that USB is used, maybe next time too, use the UUID > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Finding_the_UUID_of_your_partition
[23:27] <daftykins> Bashing-om: it does happen ;) cheap old ones typically.
[23:28] <OerHeks> AegNuddel, but /media/Lexar/ and /dev/sdc1/ are oke too
[23:28] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Getting close to a "I do not know" situation .. perhaps we can make up a Xorg.conf file to tell the system what to expect ? .. now that might be a real chore .. and a steep learning curve, IF a Xorg file is present, it will be used .
[23:28] <mamece2> Bashing-om: the same problem with the TV. i bet you want to see the log
[23:28] <AegNuddel> not that I should need it again hopefully, but did the iso I am writing need to be mounted special somehow?  It warned me it was mounted as read-only...
[23:29] <Bashing-om> mamece2: Will not hurt to read the news and see what the system thinks .. a new Xorg log file from a fresh reboot .
[23:29] <mamece2> Bashing-om: the new log http://paste.ubuntu.com/10734310/
[23:29] <daftykins> AegNuddel: are you putting an ubuntu ISO onto your flash drive for booting/installing from?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> mamece2: look'n and reading .
[23:30] <AegNuddel> mo
[23:30] <AegNuddel> no
[23:30] <mamece2> Bashing-om: what if I erase the xorg config and let the system create a new one. I think this is what happens when you erase xorg. iono for sure
[23:30] <daftykins> ok just checking.
[23:31] <AegNuddel> it's windows and I am using winusb
[23:31] <daftykins> mamece2: you don't need one at all, you shouldn't have a xorg.conf
[23:31] <mamece2> daftykins: what do u recommend to my problem? mantaining the same hardware
[23:32] <daftykins> mamece2: i don't really follow what you're asking.
[23:32] <Bashing-om> mamece2: so far so good " (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (TOSHIBA-TV (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D Vision ";  disable 3D ?
[23:32] <AegNuddel> error occurred ...
[23:32] <AegNuddel> bah
[23:33] <daNRG> hehe
[23:33] <daftykins> Bashing-om: nah that's standard in all logs with nvidia
[23:33] <mamece2> Bashing-om: maybe its 3D, but iono how to disable it
[23:36] <mamece2> daftykins: what can i do ?
[23:37] <daftykins> mamece2: make sure you don't have a xorg.conf then test the HDMI TV again.
[23:37] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Thanks will keep that "standard" in mind .. what means " TV encoder: Unknown " .. no viable EDID info ?
[23:38] <mamece2> daftykins: ok i am a noob. where should i check for a xorg.conf
[23:39] <daftykins> mamece2: "ls /etc/X11/"
[23:39] <Bashing-om> mamece2: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf .
[23:39] <daftykins> TV encoder, hmm not sure on that one
[23:39] <mamece2> theres only xorg.conf.failsafe
[23:39] <daftykins> ok good
[23:40] <daftykins> so what's the current situation? did the Toshiba TV work?
[23:40] <mamece2> no, thats bad. the toshiba doest work. im using a hdmi cable
[23:40] <daftykins> the Toshiba TV does not work over HDMI?
[23:40] <GunnDawg> I just discovered gnome fallback shell. Good bye unity! :)
[23:41] <AegNuddel> hmm nope.  Booted and showed windows but said files were missing
[23:41] <OerHeks> mamece2, your log shows it sees the toshiba tv, as connected. maybe try to reset the toshiba tv to defaults itself?
[23:42] <daftykins> AegNuddel: rather than keep giving us a commentary nobody can follow, can you phrase complete support questions? :)
[23:42] <mamece2> OerHeks: I dont think its the TV. It has the same behavior as the lcd and the crt
[23:44] <AegNuddel> WEll I'm not even sure what I am saying.  this winusb program was supposed to write the iso to the usb drive, but it warned me the iso was mounted as read-only, and it didn't all get copied, as when I plugged it into my other computer and windows started, it then told me flies were missing
[23:44] <wink_ndge> Currently moving to Ubuntu. Would it be foolish to install beta2?
[23:46] <Bashing-om> wink_ndge: Depends, what is your tollerance for breakage ?
[23:46] <wink_ndge> 14.10 it is then :P
[23:47] <daftykins> wink_ndge: 14.04.1 would be even better due to being LTS (long term support)
[23:47] <AegNuddel> I tried to make the permissions as loose as possible, but even though it says I did in the file manager, When I try to write it, it complains about it being mounted as read-only
[23:48] <Bashing-om> wink_ndge: Well .. 14.10 will soon be End-OF-Life .. the current stable Long Term Support releases are 12.04 and 14.04 -- stable .
[23:48] <AegNuddel> How do you "mount" an ISO anyway?!
[23:49] <Bashing-om> AegNuddel: From a Linux distro ? to mount the .iso ?
[23:49] <GunnDawg> What are some of the better options for replacing Unity in 14.10? Gnome Fallback? Gnome 3?
[23:50] <spagewmf> Is this the channel for 15.04? I did a painless dist-upgrade to it, but am havingproblems getting it to load my encrypted swap and disk.
[23:50] <daftykins> no, #ubuntu+1
[23:51] <spagewmf> daftykins: thanks.  GunnDawg , Gnome 3 is nice is some ways. If you want Windows-like, I like Kubuntu. YMMV
[23:51] <Bashing-om> GunnDawg: There is no best .. what works 'better' for you .. I personally prefer xfce .. just a personal thing .
[23:51] <AegNuddel> Bashing-om, it's...a program for writing a windows iso from ubuntu called winusb
[23:52] <GunnDawg> Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with the KDE desktop, correct?
[23:52] <mamece2> so, my screen problem its unfixable?
[23:52] <hkrrsx> GunnDawg: Here's a list of the more popular desktop environments with their respective features and system requirements
[23:52] <hkrrsx> http://scriptevolution.com/blog/2012/08/top-10-ubuntu-desktop-environments-and-shells/
[23:53] <Bashing-om> AegNuddel: No idea, sorry .. I see http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ often recomended to make up the install medium . though it too sometimes has it's problems .
[23:53] <GunnDawg> What is the prefered distro for gaming? I seem to be able to play most everything I want so far except for the FPS issues with League of Legends
[23:56] <AegNuddel> Bashing-om, wrong way anyway.  I have Linux, and need to write Windows install media
[23:58] <Jordan_U> AegNuddel: iso9660 is a read only filesystem, so it makes sense that when you mount it it's read only. That shouldn't be a problem.