[00:01] <exidos> gn8 folks ;)
[00:04] <sisterFister> ummmm
[00:04] <sisterFister> idk
[00:04] <sisterFister> i'm going to reinstall
[00:05] <sisterFister> GNU INSTALL
[00:06] <Zekka> Daftykins - Thanks for helping earlier, even though the problem turned out to be (most likely) trivial. System is now configured and dual boot works properly.
[00:06] <bastidrazor> new updates!! yah!!! oh wait. nvidia-current fails with kernel 3.2.0-52
[00:07] <bastidrazor> nvidia-304 is just mean with api mismatching
[00:07] <daftykins> Zekka: no problem :) i was just there for the ride, didn't really do anything :)
[00:08] <cecco> hi guys
[00:09] <cecco> I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I cannot use my webcam integrated on my laptop
[00:09] <cecco> does anybody can help me
[00:09] <daftykins> cecco: have you attempted to identify it and look up whether it works under Linux?
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> cecco, Is cheese installed?
[00:11] <cecco> no... I'm doin'it now
[00:14] <jb992> Give us a shout when it's done installing
[00:14] <daftykins> jb992: er what?
[00:15] <jb992> daftykins, ?
[00:15] <daftykins> oh was that a follow up from the cheese install idea?
[00:15] <daftykins> sorry, on my client that line was invisible
[00:16] <jb992> Yep
[00:18] <pac1> join #qt
[00:19] <Ebou_Dar> n
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> pac1, /join #qt
[00:20] <Huriachi> Good morning #ubuntu
[00:20] <chester> ola
[00:20] <qin> Huriachi: That's relative
[00:21] <Huriachi> lol, true :P
[00:22] <Huriachi> Is there someone who can assist me with a slight annoyance?
[00:23] <usr13> cecco: What does lspci say about it.
[00:23] <usr13> ?
[00:23] <usr13> cecco: Correction:  What does lsusb say about your webcam.
[00:23] <usr13> ?
[00:24] <daftykins> that's what i was gonna get to
[00:24] <daftykins> but he seemed to just disappear...
[00:24] <chester> estou no Ingles quero ir para portugues..
[00:24] <chester> ......
[00:24] <usr13> cecco: lsusb |pastebinit  #Show is the URL
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> !br | chester
[00:24] <Huriachi> I'm trying to get a x2x setup going, but my other device uses touch-screen based input. It's hiding the cursor automatically. Any idea how to stop that?
[00:26] <kAEnt> is there anyone here? kubuntu seems dead
[00:26] <ThePendulum> I am
[00:26] <ThePendulum> Point and shoot
[00:27] <kAEnt> thanks
[00:27] <kAEnt> i have a strange problem
[00:27] <kAEnt> i just installed kubuntu and i can get to the login screen just fine but after i log in and the loading thingie shows up the screen goes to lines and then freezes
[00:27] <kAEnt> how can it be driver issues if i can see the login screen
[00:27] <kAEnt> the same thing happens on the live cd
[00:28] <kAEnt> when i choose "Try"
[00:28] <kAEnt> any suggestions? i dont even know where to begin on the forums or google
[00:28] <usr13> kAEnt: Quit using Enter key for punctuation.
[00:28] <XMLnewbi> so I can do a SU but if I try to log in as the new user it crash's. what can cause a sftp user to crash putty?
[00:29] <usr13> kAEnt: lspci |grep VGA  #Tell us what that says.
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> XMLnewbi, Details to the channel for help.
[00:30] <usr13> kAEnt: cat /etc/issue  #Tell us what that says.
[00:30] <kAEnt> moment
[00:31] <wiak> kAEnt: what gpu?
[00:31] <XMLnewbi> I followed, http://devtidbits.com/2011/06/29/implement-a-sftp-service-for-ubuntudebian-with-a-chrooted-isolated-file-directory/ and now when I try to log into the new user in dreamweaver or putty it crashs.
[00:31] <kAEnt> 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[00:31] <kAEnt> im on archpup right now on a usb stick
[00:31] <Lecter> yo
[00:32] <Lecter> how can i launch a vmware once its installed
[00:32] <Lecter> ?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> XMLnewbi, read the second paragraph. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:32] <kAEnt> i dont know how it can be a video driver issue if i can see the log in screen
[00:33] <usr13> kAEnt: What version of Kubuntu did you install?
[00:33] <asdasd_> what's the best distro if i want to keep things minimal visually
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> asdasd_, In the ubuntu group?
[00:33] <kAEnt> 13.04
[00:33] <L-sama> anybody using hello, i have installed vmware, how to launch it so i can install stuff in my virtual machine
[00:34] <asdasd_> in the ubuntu group as opposed to
[00:34] <kAEnt> should i try the lts version?
[00:34] <usr13> kAEnt: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log   #Show us resulting URL
[00:34] <asdasd_> what, as opposed to like, mint or something
[00:34] <usr13> kAEnt: Wait, you said youre booted to a USB right now?
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> asdasd_, This is ubuntu support only lubuntu/lxde would be the easiest, and other OS are on other channels.
[00:34] <daftykins> L-sama: i'll bet vmware have documentation
[00:34] <XMLnewbi> I am able to use su to become root, and able to su to the new user from root, I am NOT able to log into a differnt user from putty, or from dreamweaver for ftp
[00:35] <kAEnt> usr13: right now cause the kubuntu wouldnt let me log in but i could get to a tty if i didnt log in first if i logged in it would freeze
[00:35] <kAEnt> usr13: so i could move around i just rebooted into my usb stick
[00:36] <kAEnt> usr13: im using a remote shell to connect to irc
[00:36] <somsip> XMLnewbi: sounds more likely to be due to the restrictions set by the sshd.config on the server. And the ftp account
[00:36] <usr13> kAEnt: Ok, well not much we can do unless you boot to it.
[00:37] <kAEnt> usr13: one sec
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> XMLnewbi, "By default, the Root account password is locked in Ubuntu. This means that you cannot login as Root directly or use the su command to become the Root user" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:38] <XMLnewbi> I did edit my sudo nano +76 /etc/ssh/sshd_config and changed Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server to  Subsystem sftp internal-sftp and added Match group sftponly ChrootDirectory /var/www X11Forwarding no AllowTcpForwarding no ForceCommand internal-sftp
[00:39] <ayecee> hi. I'd like to optimize directories on / with e2fsck's -D option on boot. I see I can force a fsck by touching /forcefsck, but how might I apply the -D option for this fsck?
[00:39] <XMLnewbi> I am on a VPS, I am able to ssh into root. I am not able to ssh into a newly made user
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> ayecee, THat is not needed linux is optimized in its design.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> ayecee, If you have a ssd there are other ways.
[00:40] <ayecee> wilee-nilee: it is necessary in this case, to shrink a directory structure in which i created many files.
[00:40] <kAEnt> well ill be
[00:40] <kAEnt> it works now
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> ayecee, believe what you will. ;)
[00:42] <ayecee> wilee-nilee: ls -l reports the directory at nearly 4mb instead of the more typical 4-8k.
[00:43] <ayecee> err, ls -ld
[00:43] <XMLnewbi> man I am tempted to just use root at my ftp user
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> ayecee, Not an area I have a lot od expertise in but running that fsck everytime does not seem like a correct answer.
[00:45] <ayecee> wilee-nilee: just one time would suffice.
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> ah it looked like you wanted it everytime.
[00:46] <ayecee> this would be trivial in single-user mode or with usb boot, however the machine is remote.
[00:47] <Vivekananda> hello. I get no MTA installed when running chrome and a solutions says to install a mail application. Which one should I install for ubuntu. ? is pine the one ?
[00:47] <kAEnt> usr13: i just rebooted this time and it worked fine i dont get it
[00:48] <ayecee> Vivekananda: pine is a MUA. sendmail, exim or postfix would be MTAs. i'm not sure why you'd need one.
[00:49] <Vivekananda> ayecee: because of this --- helo everyone. using ubuntu and trying a cron. trying to use gnome-schedule on lubuntu 12.04.(any alternatives if better suited plz suggest ) I get--  No MTA installed, discarding output .  I tried this --  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cron/+bug/891869    and also it directed me to this --   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823285 .
[00:50] <ayecee> Vivekananda: doesn't seem like a problem unless you want the output from the cronjob.
[00:51] <ayecee> normally you wouldn't need it.
[00:53] <XMLnewbi> I guess third time is a charm
[00:56] <Vivekananda> ayecee: I am trying to run a cronjob to do what I don in a a console by typing -- foo/.run.py   or python  foo/run.py  my cron line and the syslog output is here --- http://pastebin.com/0XdyPG2G
[00:57] <Vivekananda> what is wrong ?
[00:59] <Vivekananda> I also tried this --  http://pastebin.com/bZ4nr8eZ
[00:59] <ayecee> nothing is wrong.
[00:59] <ayecee> it's just telling you that it's discarding the output from the job.
[01:00] <ayecee> you could probably prevent that message by adding this at the end of the command: >/dev/null 2>&1
[01:01] <Vivekananda> ayecee: do you mean it is executing the run as I want it too
[01:01] <ayecee> yes
[01:01] <sadasd> i just tried to install elementaryOS
[01:01] <sadasd> and all it did was install ubuntu
[01:01] <sadasd> any ideas
[01:01] <Vivekananda> also I dont understandd what to choose from 'default behaviour' 'suppress output' ' xapplication'  'x application supress output'
[01:02] <Vivekananda> if it is executing the .run then is it similar to doing ./run.py in the console
[01:02] <ayecee> Vivekananda: yes
[01:02] <Vivekananda> also which one of the pastebin is correct ? the first one ( xwrapper.py) or the second one ?
[01:03] <renegade_> Does any one here have any experience with vnc4server?
[01:03] <ayecee> Vivekananda: i don't know. i would think the second one.
[01:03] <IdleOne> !mint | renegade_
[01:03] <Vivekananda> ayecee: but in the auxiliary process I dont see the 'run.py' it is not running !!
[01:03] <Vivekananda> my server has not started
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> sadasd, elementaryOS has a channel #elementary
[01:04] <sadasd> k thanks
[01:08] <grahamsavage> hi
[01:08] <grahamsavage> I'm trying to change network settings (i.e. dns etc)
[01:08] <grahamsavage> and i can't seem to be able to do it
[01:09] <grahamsavage> I click on options under All Settings > Network and nothing happens
[01:12] <JavaCrash7_> plasa.id.allnetwork.org
[01:14] <abc_> Yo guys
[01:17] <newp> I cannot get Ubuntu on my new laptop w/ UEFI for the life of me.  I swear I want to murder microsoft.
[01:18] <newp> I've been at it for over 12 hours trying..
[01:18] <newp> I'm either a complete newbie moron or the world is plotting against me.
[01:20] <HackerII> its the world
[01:20] <daftykins> newp: it wasn't Microsoft.
[01:20] <daftykins> newp: what exactly are you trying and what is happening?
[01:21] <newp> UEFI is causing all the problems & last time I checked that was MS's doing.
[01:21] <newp> I can't get Ubuntu to install/boot on my new laptop.  no matter what I try
[01:22] <newp> disabling UEFI, adding nomodeset, acpi, u name it
[01:22] <newp> maybe I'm doing something wrong, I'm not very linux savy.. but I've installed Ubuntu on like a dozen machines & NEVER run into problems.
[01:23] <newp> anyway, I'm done messing with this for the night.  if you have any ideas feel free to PM me.
[01:23] <fermulator> Does anyone have experience installing grub2 on a standalone partition, solely for the purpose of chainloading to other OSs? - I want to do: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MasterBootLoader#A.284.29_Configuring_the_.22Master_Boot_Loader.22_for_the_First_Time
[01:24] <fermulator> (I used to be able to do this with legacy grub, but cannot figure out grub2...)
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> fermulator, If you have a OS with grub 2 already you can use it.
[01:25] <fermulator> wilee-nilee: I prefer to have a standalone "boot master" partition -- such that if the OS that is managing the 'master boot', messes up, I can easily still boot into other OS
[01:25] <fermulator> the wiki link I refered to outlines the concept
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> fermulator, YOu need it in the mbr as well
[01:26] <newp> wilee, you believe I've been going back & force on the forums since we last spoke & I've gotten absolutely nowhere.
[01:26] <daftykins> newp: is the flash drive you made known-good for UEFI boot in another system?
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> newp, You have a link to your thread?
[01:27] <newp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2169334
[01:28] <fermulator> wilee-nilee: for example, installing w/ grub2 was successful, but it doesn't create any menu entries: http://pastebin.com/b0kHd61M
[01:28] <newp> defty, what do you mean known-good for UEFI boot?
[01:29] <newp> it's just a 8 GB PNF Attache flashdrive
[01:29] <daftykins> can you test it on another UEFI system?
[01:29] <newp> PNY*
[01:29] <daftykins> as in you know it successfully boots
[01:29] <newp> I don't have another UEFI system.
[01:29] <daftykins> so you can't be sure the flash drive is bootable then?
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> newp, Have you tried getting rid of that wubi stuff?
[01:30] <newp> well I successfully installed off it but then Ubuntu stopped booting
[01:30] <daftykins> oh ok you have gotten further than just booting live mode
[01:30] <newp> I can also boot Ubuntu off it to try w/o installing
[01:30] <newp> wilee:  yes, I'm pretty sure I did
[01:31] <newp> I deleted the files in my C: drive & also the original wubi.exe
[01:31] <Zildjiandrummerx> I'm Running Ubuntu 13.04 on Virtualbox (I'm testing it for the 1st time), Can you help me out installing a USB driver so that the virtual machine can recognize my USB memories? I'm running Virtualbox 4.2.16
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> newp, Run the bootinfo summary again and make sure thte entries are gone from windows.
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> wubi entries
[01:32] <daftykins> Zildjiandrummerx: there are likely roughly 1 million guides online for that
[01:33] <newp> and yeah dafty, I installed Ubuntu successfully (after not knowing I had to disable SecureBoot & FastBoot) with wilee last night.  I used Ubuntu for the night then shut down before bed.  upton waking up I booted my PC & Ubuntu just kept hanging on that black screen I describe in the thread
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> newp, wubi is removed with the standard add remove.
[01:33] <newp> wilee: yeah I will.
[01:33] <ATaTTack> so whats a good channel to start out on?
[01:33] <usr13> ATaTTack: For _______________ ?
[01:33] <newp> I went to add/remove it throgh control panel after I deleted the files (stupid, I know) & it said the unintall files could not be found "would you like to remove it from the program list"
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> newp, The only thing I'm noticing here is that you seem to not be following some standardized approaches in general, this may be due to your frustration.
[01:34] <ATaTTack> getting to know IRC
[01:34] <usr13> ATaTTack: Genreal Linux information?
[01:34] <ATaTTack> and yes
[01:34] <newp> maybe so, but it also has to do with the fact that I don't know Ubuntu lingo that well
[01:34] <usr13> ATaTTack: #linux
[01:34] <usr13> !irc | ATaTTack
[01:35] <newp> it's difficult for me unless the directions are layed on
[01:35] <usr13> ATaTTack: correction:  ##linux
[01:35] <ATaTTack> thanks
[01:35] <newp> honestly wilee, I need a break.  I'm burning myself out on this.
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> newp, My advice is don't do it unless you have confirmation it is correct, ask for more definitions of what you may not understand, not trying to preach at you. ;)
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> yeah take a break.
[01:36] <newp> I know that, but others aren't as patient with newbs like me :P
[01:37] <newp> I don't like taking people's time & bugging them.  especially when you're taking time out of your day to help me for free
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> newp, That mod is, they are your best ally.
[01:37] <usr13> newp: Directness sometimes comes off as impatience.
[01:39] <newp> usr: I get what ya mean.  it's tough to read one's attitude through the internet though.  I certainly don't mean it that way & I try to tell folks that when I can.
[01:39] <newp> anyhow, thank you both.  I'm gonna take a break, have a whiskey or two & get some sleep.
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> newp, When I'm helping I'm serving myself first, basically, some realize this some don't, don't worry about taking up our time. ;)
[01:40] <newp> :)
[01:40] <newp> thank you bud.  it's appreciated more than you know :P
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> we all serve ourselves first always
[01:41] <newp> true I guess, when it comes down to it
[01:42] <newp> anyhow, I'm outta here.  I've been staring at these screens far too long lol
[01:42] <netlar> true joy is helping others
[01:42] <newp> talk to you folks tomorrow
[01:43] <seanzky> anyone here own an android tab?
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, There are android channels
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, If this is ubuntu related tell us waht's up
[01:46] <vanishing> im pulling my hairs out...
[01:46] <seanzky> well im new to ubuntu and im trying to format my sdcard
[01:47] <seanzky> i no longer want fat32 and i want to use ext4. it seems to work fine on my laptop but on my xoom it cant see the card
[01:47] <vanishing> wired ethernet connects, and obtains ip, but cannot connect to outside world..
[01:48] <seanzky> vanishing, firewall?
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, So your problem is the card being read as a ext4 by an android tablet?
[01:48] <seanzky> yeah
[01:48] <vanishing> seanzky: i dont think that would be the case...
[01:48] <seanzky> i thought android would have no problem reading ext4
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, #android
[01:48] <vanishing> but let me try anyways..
[01:49] <seanzky> thanks will try
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, I would ask them I have a android phine and a nexus 7, have used only a fat32 card.
[01:50] <vanishing> seanzky: oh wow..it indeed is the case..
[01:50] <seanzky> nice!
[01:50] <vanishing> seanzky: lol..thanks mate
[01:50] <seanzky> no problem!
[01:50] <luciano> what icon is this http://cdn.xfce.org/about/screenshots/4.10-1.png ?
[01:51] <seanzky> wilee-nilee, i didnt like the 2gb limit for file xfers hehe
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, fat32 is 4 gigs
[01:51] <seanzky> i meant 4
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> I get the meaning though
[01:52] <seanzky> i was trying to copy a 5gb and it failed :(
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, Have you tried airdroid for transferring?
[01:53] <seanzky> i have but it has a limit now
[01:53] <seanzky> its no longer free, as soon as it left beta
[01:53] <vanishing> next time when my cable network slows down to 2m I can call them and proudly tell them "I am connected directly to your modem using wired connect, and the connection is slow."
[01:53] <seanzky> vanishing, but you have to make sure it's nothing on your end slowing down your connection. hehe.
[01:54] <vanishing> seanzky: meh..they dont care about that, and im pretty sure its not my problem :D
[01:54] <seanzky> hehe
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, I'm not sure but take a look here. http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/beginner/best-android-apps-for-transferring-files-over-wifi-june-2013/
[01:58] <usr13> seanzky: You don't have a usb cable?
[01:59] <seanzky> i do
[01:59] <seanzky> what about it, usr13
[01:59] <usr13> seanzky: Plug it in.  (You don't need an app.)
[01:59] <seanzky> i know, but the file limit still kicks in
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, What ubuntu release are you running, there is a ppa for mtp for 12.04
[01:59] <seanzky> i have 13.04
[02:00] <seanzky> no ppa for raring?
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> should plug and work with no file limit to the android
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> depends on the android version what is it seanzky
[02:00] <usr13> seanzky: If you don't want to plug it in, you can use filexpert via WiFi
[02:01] <seanzky> im using custom roms
[02:02] <usr13> seanzky: What is a "custom rom"?
[02:02] <seanzky> cm 10.2 on my phone
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, They are based on a google release though.
[02:02] <seanzky> eos on my tab
[02:02] <seanzky> yeah
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> 10.2 should just mount, does here.
[02:02] <seanzky> android 4.2.2 and 4.3
[02:02] <usr13> Too many acronyms
[02:02] <seanzky> i just tried on my phone and it didnt :(
[02:03] <seanzky> and its 4.3
[02:03] <seanzky> usr13, hehe
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, YOu have the development usb ticked?
[02:03] <seanzky> yeah
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> strange
[02:03] <seanzky> i remember my phone being very picky when i first got this 64 card
[02:04] <seanzky> it was either exfat or fat32 if i recall correctly
[02:04] <seanzky> galaxy s3, that is
[02:04] <seanzky> i build my own nightlies, perhaps i broked something?
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, https://launchpad.net/~langdalepl/+archive/gvfs-mtp
[02:05] <bazhang> !ot | seanzky
[02:05] <seanzky> sorry!
[02:05] <seanzky> well thanks anyway guys
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> seanzky, check the ppa.
[02:05] <seanzky> will do thanks again!
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> has a raring release
[02:07] <L-sama> hello,
[02:07] <L-sama> how can i see lets say all my games applications on ubiquity?
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> L-sama, if installed I would think the dash
[02:08] <L-sama> the dash only shows like 3 of them if i search games
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> search by name
[02:10] <L-sama> i can use my command line to launch by name
[02:10] <L-sama> whats the point in ubiquity?
[02:11] <L-sama> back to Gnome/fluxbox/kde and xfce
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> L-sama, You asked where they are if you search with it you will know.
[02:11] <L-sama> i want to look at the list of my games
[02:11] <L-sama> typing game in search doesnt solve the issue
[02:11] <L-sama> noob testing made ubiquity
[02:11] <L-sama> by exact name its command line
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> L-sama, I don't use unity, so I'm not sure games you add are there always
[02:12] <L-sama> np
[02:12] <L-sama> ill just get back to viable desktops
[02:12] <L-sama> like gnome
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> I use the shell, but using synapse and the cairo dock never the search
[02:14] <ganjika> how do i disable an infuriating touchpad?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> ganjika, What desktop?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> and what release
[02:15] <ganjika> lubuntu extra life edition
[02:15] <ganjika> oh desktop
[02:15] <ganjika> i think openbox
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> ganjika, NOt really supported here technically, however some might help.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> lubuntu in general would need a file change most likely.
[02:16] <ganjika> y thank u
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> ganjika, I have an acer d250 that has a universal tap pad on/off, you might look there as well.
[02:19] <uronu> hey guys, is there any other deep freeze than ofris on ubuntu? I want to have a deep freeze on my ubuntu 12.04 client machines.
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> its a key set prompt
[02:19] <ganjika> i have one but it dont work :/
[02:21] <CorruptedHelix_> Hi! I'm trying to play music through Google Music on Ubuntu. However, the audio plays rather fast, faster than it actually should. I can tell this because of how fast the bar moves. Notably, you can't hear the audio, either.
[02:21] <CorruptedHelix_> This also occurs in Youtube (the video moves faster than it should), and occurs in both of my browsers, Firefox and Chromium.
[02:22] <goddard> i got the large 27 inch at 2560x1440 what kind of tweaks should I do
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> uronu, They might know more in ##linux if you are registered with freenode.
[02:23] <CorruptedHelix_> Actually, it's worth noting that Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my laptop's speakers.
[02:25] <uronu> wilee-nilee: how do i register with freenode?
[02:25] <CorruptedHelix_> Actually, now it is...
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> !register
[02:26] <uronu> wilee-nilee: ubottu: thanks
[02:26] <uronu> !register
[02:26] <CorruptedHelix_> I do have an issue worth nothing, though. The sound for Ubuntu/GNOME doesn't sync with the sound buttons on my computer, I think I can explain it.
[02:26] <CorruptedHelix_> In GNOME 3, there's a Speaker icon in the top right, where I can change the volume.
[02:27] <CorruptedHelix_> Those are my speaker's volume controls.
[02:27] <CorruptedHelix_> However, F9 , F10 and F11 on my laptop also serve as volume buttons to change it.
[02:27] <CorruptedHelix_> These buttons bring up a GUI of the volume supposedly trying, but doesn't actually control the sound.
[02:27] <HackerII> CorruptedHelix_  you could install gnome-alsa-mixer
[02:28] <CorruptedHelix_> I was recommended to do that before and don't remember what came out of it
[02:28] <CorruptedHelix_> so I'll try it again
[02:28] <HackerII> do it from synaptic
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Some cool 3d shades. ;)
[02:30] <CorruptedHelix_> HackerII: user reviews indicate 13.04 broke it
[02:30] <CorruptedHelix_> And since I'm on 13.04, that won't work
[02:30] <HackerII> huh
[02:31] <HackerII> then go in terminal and type alsamixer
[02:31] <CorruptedHelix_> Yeah, I see it.
[02:31] <CorruptedHelix_> I can change the volume, that isn't my problem. My problem is that it doesn't work with my hardware keys properly
[02:32] <HackerII> o
[02:32] <HackerII> no help there since your on 13
[02:32] <CorruptedHelix_> Fair enough. :p
[02:33] <enen92> does anyone know how I can import the configuration file of an openvpn in ubuntu without manually filling all the entries?
[02:34] <adamsilver> If I install skype from skype.com does it mean I will have to keep it up-to-date manually?
[02:34] <Extreminador> guys how can i know what error is giving in kmail when traying to access my hotmail account ?
[02:35] <HackerII> uronu  still there ?
[02:35] <uronu> HackerII: yes?
[02:35] <Extreminador> i press the button "check email" but email list is empety
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, Has it ever worked?
[02:36] <HackerII> i found this if itl help  http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2012/07/how-to-deep-freeze-xubuntu-with-ofris.html
[02:36] <Extreminador> nop i installed it at 10 min ago
[02:36] <HackerII> 12.04
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, probably has to be setup correctly.
[02:36] <Extreminador> after i install it i did use the assistance to set the account (it seems fine)
[02:37] <Extreminador> it's using the correct pop3 server settings to receive and the correct smtp server setting to send
[02:37] <uronu> HackerII: thanks but I already tried that.
[02:37] <HackerII> what happened
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, You have it as ssl or what is appropriate
[02:38] <ghostnik11> question as I want to know if this command is correct: deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org raring main
[02:38] <uronu> This works for me http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/07/install-gofris-on-ubuntu-1104-to.html also in 12.04
[02:38] <Extreminador> how can i see the reason fot no connection ?
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> the correct ports?
[02:38] <ghostnik11> i want to add that to my ubuntu 13.04
[02:38] <Extreminador> humm let me check
[02:38] <HackerII> ok, nice
[02:38] <uronu> HackerII: thanks again, till then.
[02:38] <HackerII> ok
[02:38] <Extreminador> yup SSL/TLS on port 995 to receive
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, Might be just ssl, and what about the smtp?
[02:40] <Extreminador> under the port is something asking for the autentication type ... the option atm is on "plain" not sure what is this and what it the correct one
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, You might ask in ##winodws to confirm all that.
[02:40] <Extreminador> wilee-nileemthe smpt wait a second
[02:40] <Extreminador> ahh ok wilee-nilee i will
[02:41] <Extreminador> wilee-nilee but to finish smtp is at TLS, port 587 with "plain" option autentication
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-hotmail
[02:42] <Extreminador> nice wilee-nilee i was seeing the options here http://www.emailaddressmanager.com/tips/mail-settings.html
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, It can be a push at times to get this all correct I'm actually able to get the free yahoo, by using my android server stuff, heh, heh. ;)
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> on thinderbird
[02:44] <Extreminador> wilee-nilee yess i can receive the email's now.. it was that aitentication thing
[02:44] <Extreminador> i set it to "clear text"
[02:46] <Extreminador> wilee-nilee i had the thunderbird but i don´t like it
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> I use the gnome shell, so it woeks here. ;)
[02:46] <Extreminador> thunderbird is very incomplete... i have several directorys and he just don´t copy them and organize them
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> works*
[02:47] <pvl1> dammit ubuntu still hits up my laptop too much
[02:47] <Extreminador> and thunderbird i did not manage to download the emails address as well
[02:47] <holstein> thunderbird is one of the more well developed applications for email on any platform
[02:47] <holstein> !language
[02:47] <holstein> pvl1: still "hits" up?
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, Cool, sounds like you gt it working.
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> got*
[02:48] <Extreminador> yup wilee-nilee thanks for that link... it had more complete information
[02:48] <Extreminador> still receiving emails
[02:48] <pvl1> holstein: woops, i meant it gets too hot
[02:49] <pvl1> im using 13.04 64bit, gnome-fallback (failback? idr) with no effects. trying to install propriety driver atm through synaptic, seeing no progress
[02:49] <Extreminador> holstein mybe it's my bad english but is "hits" a bad word ?
[02:50] <wiak> samba 4 is a mess on ubuntu 12.04 LTS :O
[02:50] <wiak> <- got errors of premissions when installing samba4 from ppa
[02:50] <wiak> apt*
[02:51] <pvl1> Extreminador: no i just wasnt paying attention
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, I think that was fir the d word by another
[02:53] <Extreminador> ahh ok lool
[02:53] <holstein> pvl1: i would try that driver that you are, and try something like xfce. xubuntu..
[02:54] <pvl1> holstein: i3 should be good. should probably start using it
[02:55] <Extreminador> hihihihi let me get back to the original enviroment of unbutu this one is giving some bugs
[02:56] <Extreminador> and i am not sure how to fix them... yet
[02:57] <Extreminador> where can i see some kind of tuturial to teach me how to find out or how to fix some random error
[02:57] <Extreminador> humm guess this is a very stupid question lool
[02:57] <Extreminador> forget the question
[02:57] <holstein> Extreminador: here.. if you elaborate about the *exact* error
[02:58] <Extreminador> but my question is exacle that... i would like to be able to figured out y self where i could fiz it...
[02:58] <Guest37381> #nick kling
[02:58] <Extreminador> mybe the not how to fix it but at least to check the correct file to fix it
[02:58] <Extreminador> but yehh wait a sec again
[03:00] <Extreminador> ok here it is...
[03:01] <Extreminador> when accessing the left menu and only when i chosse the aplication sub-menu it gives this error
[03:02] <Extreminador> i will parte a image it's beatter
[03:02] <Extreminador> humm print screen button does not work
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, does kubuntu have the screenshot app?
[03:03] <holstein> Extreminador: works for me.. usually just dumps an image in /home or */pictures
[03:03] <Extreminador> wilee-nilee well in the original unbuntu desktop enviroment i click on that button and it even make a sound
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[03:03] <leeSL510> I'm on ubuntu 13.04 the you tube icon in the application launcher has an arrow as if it's open. What is the process to kill it.  If I right click the icon it doesn't quit.
[03:04] <Extreminador> what is called the paint program ?
[03:04] <holstein> Extreminador: are you using KDE? kubuntu?
[03:04] <Extreminador> no it's the one called enlightment
[03:04] <Extreminador> enlightement desktop enviroment
[03:05] <Gnu-centric_on_M> E-17?
[03:05] <Extreminador> Gnu-centric_on_M yup
[03:05] <holstein> Extreminador: then, the defaults are different.. if you are using the "original ubuntu desktop", then, you get the "original" apps and config.. when you customize, you are expected to customize
[03:05] <Extreminador> yup i know holstein that why i said that i should learn a little more about this
[03:06] <holstein> Extreminador: if you literally just started using E17, then, i agree.. you should just use it for a week or more first..
[03:06] <RichardLynch> I am running a recent ubuntu on old Toshiba Qosmio laptop
[03:06] <holstein> RichardLynch: "recent", or supported?
[03:07] <Gnu-centric_on_M> Pardon me for jumping in, but is there an *buntu that ships w/ E17?
[03:07] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckingYourUbuntuVersion RichardLynch
[03:07] <Extreminador> what it the program name for the paint linux ?
[03:07] <RichardLynch> It was working this morning. Now I try and boot and HDD1 error shows up then Ubuntu splash screen
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> Gnu-centric_on_M, Its in the ubuntu repos.
[03:07] <holstein> Gnu-centric_on_M: not by default, but E17 is in the repos.. and *all* official ubuntu versions have it in the repos..
[03:08] <RichardLynch> Supported. I don't go for bleeding edge
[03:08] <Gnu-centric_on_M> ok, thanks, makes sense,
[03:08] <RichardLynch> I would like to make the splash go away.
[03:08] <holstein> Extreminador: i use the gimp.. there are *many* apps that are (AFAIK) like "paint"
[03:08] <Gnu-centric_on_M> was just curious
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> Gnu-centric_on_M, There is a ppa as wel;
[03:08] <holstein> Extreminador: please do not repeat questions
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> well*
[03:08] <RichardLynch> Or get into BIOS, but that's not for here.
[03:09] <RichardLynch> Or get into grub. Or get CDROM to boot w/ System Rescue CD.
[03:09] <Extreminador> holstein lol sorry thought you did not see it
[03:09] <RichardLynch> I have tried ESC, F2, and F12 for the BIOS. Actually all the Fx
[03:10] <Extreminador> i am asking this because yestarday i did use one that i know how to access using the unbunto desktop enviroment but using the e-17 not sure how to open it
[03:10] <holstein> RichardLynch: ubuntu, or any operating system will not be preventing or enabling you to access the bios or preventing you from booting a CD
[03:10] <RichardLynch> Yes. I am asking about skipping the splash screen.
[03:10] <holstein> !gpaint
[03:10] <holstein> !info gpaint
[03:11] <RichardLynch> I am avoiding the inevitable questions about BIOS boot and/or CDROM boot :-)
[03:11] <holstein> Extreminador: ^^ gpaint seems like an option... you should find it my opening the package amanger of your choice and searching "paint"
[03:11] <Extreminador> thanks holstein
[03:12] <holstein> RichardLynch: i think they are relevant, since they could indicate a hardware failure or problem for breakage that could be creating the issue you are seeing
[03:12] <Gnu-centric_on_M> GIMP seems so labyrinthine
[03:12] <holstein> Gnu-centric_on_M: then, dont use it
[03:13] <RichardLynch> Okay. Let's just say I tried all the usual things to get to BIOS. Getting to BIOS is a hardware issue. It's OT here, as you said.
[03:13] <RichardLynch> I am happy to try again.
[03:13] <Gnu-centric_on_M> wasn't meaning to complain, just commenting, sorry if I was out of line
[03:13] <holstein> RichardLynch: the bios is not related to the operating system.. you can remove the hard drive ubuntu is on, try getting into *anything* from there, and if you still have the same issues, you may find your questions more fit for a hardware channel
[03:14] <RichardLynch> That said, my original On-topic Qs were about GRUB, Splash screen.
[03:14] <holstein> RichardLynch: i would try til i get what i want to happen to happen.. i would want to try an older kernel.. i would try a live CD
[03:14] <RichardLynch> I am trying a System rescue CD. But I don't think it has priority in the BIOS.
[03:14] <holstein> Gnu-centric_on_M: you can both complain and comment in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel :)
[03:15] <holstein> RichardLynch: confirm that it does, or not.. if *nothing* will boot, you could have bad memory, or a bad motherboard.. or cables..
[03:15] <RichardLynch> The laptop goes into HDD1 really fast, and then Ubuntu splash covers that. I want to disable the splash.
[03:15] <Gnu-centric_on_M> ok, thanks,
[03:15] <RichardLynch> Error HDD1, I mean.
[03:16] <RichardLynch> Somehow Ubuntu is displaying that splash screen. Is the in GRUB boot loader?
[03:16] <holstein> RichardLynch: i would search for what the particular hardware needs for accessing the bios.. typically, if its easy, i'll pull a hard drive out so i dont "break" it by force restarting
[03:16] <smartboyhw> RichardLynch, you mean, the Ubuntu screen with 5 dots?
[03:17] <hellknight> I've been using Ubuntu 13.04 since its launch. It is great, but I can't find a calendar application for it. Could you guys recommend one?
[03:17] <smartboyhw> !calendar
[03:17] <smartboyhw> Ouch
[03:17] <smartboyhw> What the
[03:17] <RichardLynch> Yes. Two hard drives, a CD ROM, something and then what looks like a window maybe
[03:17] <jose> smartboyhw: wrong channel, I'd say
[03:17] <smartboyhw> !find orage
[03:17] <smartboyhw> uh hum:(
[03:17] <holstein> hellknight: google calendar.. or just try the ones in the repo.. there are many that are all different
[03:18] <smartboyhw> hellknight, try Orage
[03:18] <Gnu-centric_on_M> It just seemed to me, perhaps, that someone may have been looking for a simpler, lighter alternative to GIMP,  feeling, as I, that for the task at hand, GIMP is like taking slegehammer to a fly
[03:18] <hellknight> holstein: I've been using google calendar. It's good, but I'd like something native. I mean native app.
[03:18] <hellknight> smartboyhw: let me see
[03:18] <holstein> hellknight: there are many..
[03:19] <RichardLynch> Hypothesis: Boot loader fires up, HDD1 fails, and splash screen manages to display after that somehow.
[03:19] <holstein> RichardLynch: i could propose that "splash screen" is in a frame buffer or something, and not coming from the hard drive, but, more indicitive of a hard drive failure
[03:19] <hellknight> checking out orage.
[03:19] <RichardLynch> If that splash screen is in grub, I can quit bugging you guys, because Ubuntu isn't even running, really.
[03:20] <holstein> RichardLynch: when booting, you should be able to press "shift" and see more options for grub.. you shoudl also be able to boot a CD..
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> RichardLynch, YOu can text boot, no splash
[03:20] <RichardLynch> The first hard drive in the image is underlined in orange, if that helps...
[03:20] <holstein> RichardLynch: its not.. what are you talking about?
[03:20] <RichardLynch> Will turn around and try shift key.
[03:21] <RichardLynch> wilee-nilee, That was my first question. How though?
[03:22] <holstein> RichardLynch: press shift.. try getting into *anything*.. recovery console.. memtest
[03:22] <holstein> an older kernel
[03:22] <RichardLynch> No luck with shift key
[03:22] <pepee> so, what's the default package manager in ubuntu?
[03:22] <Gnu-centric_on_M> May I ask a q related to text vs. splash boot ?
[03:23] <pepee> Gnu-centric_on_M, yeah, just ask
[03:23] <holstein> RichardLynch: then, if it were my machine, i would be testing hardware with a live CD
[03:23] <RichardLynch> holstein, A boot kernel can include an image. I theorized that Ubuntu used that.
[03:23] <holstein> !ask | Gnu-centric_on_M
[03:23] <RichardLynch> holstein, If I could get the CDROM to boot, I would
[03:24] <holstein> RichardLynch: and, im proposing the potetial and alledged hardware failure is why you cant get the hard drive, or live media to boot
[03:24] <holstein> potential*
[03:24] <hellknight> orage is pathetic... I should probablu install the lightening extension to Thunderbird and deal with it for a while
[03:24] <Gnu-centric_on_M> ok thanks, I was just afraid about interrupting when it seems busy
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> RichardBronosky, At grub hit e and remove quiet splash
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> same on the cd
[03:24] <holstein> hellknight: there are plenty, friend.. you need to ask for what features you seek.. or, just open a package manager and search "calendar" and see whay they are
[03:24] <RichardLynch> holstein, Probably. Just trying to get the splash screen to go away
[03:25] <RichardLynch> wilee-nilee, I cannot boot CD. I cannot get to grub with shift key.
[03:25] <holstein> RichardLynch: remvoe the hard drive, and you'll know thre is *no* way ubuntu, broken or otherwise, is sending anything to the sscreen
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> RichardLynch, For the cd boot there is a outside the bios boot from menu, mine is the f12 key at powering on yours may be the same or different, the bios usually tells you this info.
[03:26] <RichardLynch> It's a laptop... I can remove the HD, but can't find another as a swap in...
[03:26] <hellknight> holstein: don't get me wrong mate. Actually, I have been using Arch Linux since last 4 years. It had evolution which had integrated calendar. Which I liked. I'm thinking of installing it now. I'm asking for features like the one in OS X calendar.
[03:26] <pepee> what's the default graphic package manager in ubuntu?
[03:27] <holstein> RichardLynch: you dont have to put *any* hard drive back in.. if you cant get to the bios without a hard drive in the machine and boot *anything*.. then, that is an indicator of the state of the hardware
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> pepee, whuch desktop?
[03:27] <pepee> wilee-nilee, unity
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> pepee, compiz
[03:27] <holstein> hellknight: ubuntu has *all* of those options as well.. if you "like" them, use them
[03:27] <pepee> wilee-nilee, package manager..
[03:28] <holstein> hellknight: i dont use OSX.. but, if you would like to elaborate about the features you see, a volunteer here might be able to point you in a direction
[03:28] <RichardLynch> Guess it's time to disassemble a laptop. That seldom is productive, but what the hey.
[03:28] <hellknight> holstein: Yup.. doing that now. The ones with KDE are also good, but they install a lot of dependencies which somehow I don't like.
[03:28] <RichardLynch> THANKS
[03:28] <hellknight> holstein: I
[03:28] <hellknight> holstein: I
[03:28] <hellknight> holstein: I'll stick with Evolution for a while and see how it turns out on the Ubuntu desktop.
[03:28] <holstein> hellknight: enjoy!
[03:29] <hellknight> BTW, anyone using Ubuntu on AMD graphics card? Friend wants to install Maya on his Linux installation but I don't know how well AMD cards are supported on Ubuntu. He might need propreitary drivers. I'm a NVIDIA users since last 5 years
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> pepee, Ah package manager, what is your definition of that, apt-get?
[03:30] <pepee> wilee-nilee, yeah, but the default one with a GUI
[03:30] <holstein> !mint | hellknight
[03:30] <holstein> !ati | hellknight
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> pepee, Hmm, not sure there is one specific, what is the goal here?
[03:30] <pepee> wilee-nilee, to install or remove packages from a GUI...
[03:31] <holstein> hellknight: it will be on a hardware by hardware basis really.. should be able to fire up a live CD, and refer to the wiki above and get a good idea
[03:31] <pepee> wilee-nilee, in KDE, for example, you have muon
[03:31] <MKCoin> How can I make my headphones the preferred audio output device in 12.04? So they always work when I plug them in; right now I need to manually switch to them.
[03:31] <holstein> MKCoin: you can try pavucontrol.. but i dont know if that will work either
[03:31] <hellknight> I'm sorry to bother you all, but the thing is that. I'm new to Ubuntu. I have been using Arch Linux & Fedora for a while. I switched to Ubuntu due to upcoming 14.04 LTS release & I like Ubunut's smooth transition between releases.
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> pepee, Not sure, in ubuntu you can load graphic stuff from the terminal the additional stuff in software sources, the ubuntu softwrae center or synaptic.
[03:32] <pepee> synaptic..
[03:32] <holstein> MKCoin: some hardware doesnt support linux/ubuntu that well, and just doesnt work all that great out of the box. my headphones automatically switch on most hardware of mine, and when they dont, i tolerate it
[03:32] <pepee> k, thanks
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> not sure there is a gui that covers all specifically
[03:33] <MKCoin> holstein: They are USB headphones, and they work flawlessly, even the custom volume control buttons on the wire, it just doesn't automatically switch to use them as output is all.
[03:33] <holstein> hellknight: you arent 'bothering' anyone.. its just not a maya support channel.. though, the driver suppport will be the same (likely) for any linux with the proprietary graphics cards
[03:34] <holstein> MKCoin: how did pavucontrol work for you?
[03:34] <MKCoin> I don't have it installed, just a moment
[03:35] <hellknight> holstein: thanks mate. We'll try to do a test install along with the official ATI driver from AMD & see how well it goes.
[03:36] <Extreminador> found someone having the same issue with Enlightenment http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1979434
[03:37] <holstein> hellknight: really depends on the card, but i suggest, try the open one first, then the one in the repos.. then move one to trying ones from the site
[03:37] <holstein> Extreminador: what issue?
[03:38] <MKCoin> eh didn't work holstein, nevermind I guess. It didn't work in 11.04 and it didn't work in 11.10, i was just holding out hope lol
[03:38] <hellknight> holstein: It is the latest 7850 along with AMD 8350 8-core processor. We're trying to build a workstation. Will do a lot of virtualization as Virtualbox & KVM are well supported. Will keep you updated.
[03:38] <Extreminador> holstein check the link it's the same issue
[03:39] <holstein> MKCoin: i dont think that'll work that way, since the device is gone at some point. you can try setting it in alsamixer.. or specifying with something in a asound.conf file. but i know what i would do
[03:39] <holstein> Extreminador: you would like the volunteers here to open that link, and read about the issue you are having?
[03:39] <ubuntu> salut
[03:39] <ubuntu> hi
[03:40] <holstein> hellknight: good luck.. with steam, i think driver support is getting "better" all the time for all linux
[03:40] <Extreminador> I simply click on the desktop and navigate to "Applications > Accessories" with my mouse, I get the title error... It goes as follows:
[03:40] <Extreminador> Enlightenment error: This is very bad. Enlightenment SEGV'd.
[03:40] <Extreminador> This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of a bug in Enlightenment or the libraries it relies on. You can gdb attach this process now to try to debug it, or you could exit, or you could just restart to try and get your desktop back the way it was. Please compile everything with -g in your CFLAGS.
[03:40] <Guest22677> is there a beginner linux chanel?
[03:41] <holstein> Extreminador: are you using 12.04?
[03:42] <Extreminador> humm let me check... not sure th version but i think sow
[03:42] <holstein> Guest22677: there used to be an ubuntu beginners team.. the channel is still there.. #ubuntu-beginners
[03:42] <holstein> Guest22677: you can try a generall linux channel, though you shoudl be registered
[03:42] <Extreminador> holstein nop 0.16 the lateds one
[03:42] <Guest22677> so, how do i get there? bare in mind i just downloaded xchat, and its my first time using it..please?
[03:43] <holstein> Extreminador: are you running ubuntu 12.04?
[03:44] <Extreminador> 12.04.3 LTS holstein
[03:44] <Extreminador> yehh release 12.04
[03:44] <holstein> Extreminador: ppa's are not officially supported, but e17 just actually released recently (since 12.04 was released).. so you might benefit from a PPA such as https://launchpad.net/~efl/+archive/trunk which would give you the latest "stable" version of e17
[03:46] <Gnu-centric_on_M> if a PPA is signed by a known, trusted party, can't it be just as safe  as official repos?
[03:46] <Extreminador> ahh holstein i see thanks
[03:46] <Extreminador> will check that and will try to install it
[03:46] <holstein> !ppa
[03:46] <grahamsavage> Google Chrome under ubuntu is driving me nuts
[03:46] <grahamsavage> it keeps pausing
[03:46] <holstein> Guest22677: safety is not really the only issue.. its more about not being able to support all the 3rd party packages
[03:47] <grahamsavage> it's stalls as i'm trying to scroll up or down and i can't work out why.. i have 0 plugins installed and my computer is a total beast
[03:47] <grahamsavage> any ideas?
[03:47] <holstein> grahamsavage: works fine for me.. see that it is updated.. try removing the config. try starting from the command line and see it thre are errors
[03:48] <grahamsavage> all 4 cpu's are at < 4%,  31.1 Gb of free memory
[03:48] <grahamsavage> holstein: ok
[03:48] <holstein> grahamsavage: i agree that the system should "handle" chrome
[03:48] <grahamsavage> how do you remove the config?
[03:49] <holstein> grahamsavage: i usually just rename it temporarily
[03:49] <grahamsavage> ah is it in my home dir somewhere?
[03:49] <holstein> grahamsavage: i find mine in ~/.config/google-chrome
[03:52] <grahamsavage> holstein: hmm at first glance it seems to be performing well
[03:52] <grahamsavage> lol.. any idea why this sort of thing works?
[03:52] <grahamsavage> or is it the reinstall windows kinda approach?
[03:52] <holstein> grahamsavage: what worked?
[03:52] <Guest22677> who can tell me which commands i need to look at to get my internet dongle going on Mint14?
[03:52] <grahamsavage> ah moving the config file
[03:53] <holstein> !mint | Guest22677
[03:53] <grahamsavage> holstein: no errors
[03:53] <holstein> !wifi > Guest22677
[03:53] <Guest22677> i did read it
[03:53] <holstein> grahamsavage: something in that file was messing up chrome.. in the config for it and your user.. removing it makes a default fresh one start
[03:54] <holstein> Guest22677: then, you understand where to go for help with your mint operating system.. thanks!
[03:54] <Guest22677> i do, but i just have to figure out how to get there :)
[03:56] <holstein> Guest22677: this is #ubuntu on the freenode network.. #linuxmint-help is on irc.spotchat.org.. you'll /connect to spotchat like you do freenode and /join channels there
[03:58] <Guest22677> thanks , isee were i am now
[03:58] <Guest22677> ,bye
[04:00] <Kartagis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions <--- following this, how can I find out what my options for output are?
[04:00] <scarrs> hello I need to install ia32-libs whick no longer resides in the repo. Installing quake 3... what package do I need to install
[04:01] <holstein> !info ia32-libs
[04:02] <holstein> !info ia32-libs-multiarch
[04:02] <holstein> scarrs: is that what you need ^
[04:02] <Kartagis> !find ia32-libs
[04:03] <holstein> Kartagis: find is much more handy :)
[04:04] <scarrs> ty
[04:05] <Extreminador> when i use the command "sudo apt-add-repository http://ppa.launchpad.net/efl/trunk/ubuntu" it gives the error "ValueError: too many values to unpack"
[04:06] <holstein> Extreminador: you use the ppa, not the link to it
[04:06] <Extreminador> with out the http ?
[04:06] <holstein> also, its add-apt-repository"
[04:08] <holstein> for example.. for that PPA. "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:efl/trunk" should do it
[04:08] <holstein> Extreminador: ^
[04:08] <Extreminador> humm it says invalid
[04:08] <holstein> Extreminador: whats says what, exactly?
[04:09] <Extreminador> Error: 'ppa.launchpad.net/efl/truck/ubuntu/' invalid
[04:09] <holstein> Extreminador: thats *still* not the command i clearly pasted above that will add that ppa
[04:09] <holstein> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:efl/trunk
[04:10] <Extreminador> ahh you said the exact example to use
[04:10] <Extreminador> thouht it was a random example
[04:11] <Extreminador> yehh it have work
[04:11] <krz> gah thunderbird search is fucking annoying
[04:11] <krz> couldnt they have simplified this??
[04:11] <Extreminador> why the launchpad (for example) is not needed ?
[04:12] <Extreminador> the launchpad part (i mean)
[04:12] <holstein> !language | krz
[04:12] <holstein> Extreminador: its just the syntax for adding ppas
[04:15] <Extreminador> he is getting the right location (the link) to a repository of link's (ppa's links or whatever is called) ?
[04:17] <holstein> Extreminador: if you added the ppa, its added.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will bring your E17 to the current version
[04:18] <Extreminador> ups it's the dist-upgrade to use
[04:18] <holstein> Extreminador: is that a question?
[04:18] <Extreminador> naaaa... just an aclamation
[04:19] <holstein> "dist-upgrade" does *not* upgrade the distrobution
[04:19] <Extreminador> because i did use the update... and them the apt.get install e17
[04:19] <holstein> Extreminador: you dont need to install E17, since you have already installed it
[04:20] <Extreminador> well not sure if it was because of the install use or not but after the dist-upgrade it have said to use apt-get -f install to correct some dependencys found
[04:22] <Extreminador> humm lool not working now the en17... can´t log on...
[04:22] <aztecwarrior> Hey guys, I have a weird situation that I don't know how to explain. I installed AMD drivers and now one of my folders looks weird. No idea what caused it or how to fix it. Any help would be appreciated. http://i.imgur.com/H9p9Kti.png
[04:23] <Extreminador> no error given
[04:24] <Extreminador> well but tomorrow i will continue with this
[04:24] <Extreminador> it's late... 5 am here
[04:24] <Extreminador> thansk guys for you patiente with me and explanations
[04:25] <Extreminador> see you all
[04:30] <aztecwarrior> Hey guys, I have a weird situation that I don't know how to explain. I installed AMD drivers and now one of my folders looks weird. No idea what caused it or how to fix it. Any help would be appreciated. http://i.imgur.com/H9p9Kti.png
[04:33] <HackerII> i didnt see a dif in any of them
[04:33] <reisio> aztecwarrior: looks weird how?
[04:34] <exidos> aztecwarrior, you can change the icon-theme in the systemcontrol
[04:34] <the_dark_knight> Hi I am trying to install libpcap-dev using apt-get and I get this error - http://bpaste.net/show/KAPQAfR8b3rs5cCf4eiL/ . I don't understand what the problem is? please help
[04:34] <dormito> Im trying to debug a program (ubuntu 12.10). however its chocking on a library call. Since its a dynamic link, is there a way that I can temporaroly have the program load different libs (specifically versions I built that were for debuging) rather than the standard ones ldconfig knows about
[04:34] <aztecwarrior> reisio, none of those files/folders are useable. if i double click the file/folder, the xubuntu has no idea what to do with the file/folder
[04:35] <reisio> aztecwarrior: the .txt files?
[04:35] <reisio> the_dark_knight: did you try what it said to?
[04:35] <aztecwarrior> reisio, yes, also the folders. i'm uploading another image
[04:36] <the_dark_knight> reisio: yes. same error
[04:36] <aztecwarrior> reisio, http://i.imgur.com/MCEwBFa.png
[04:38] <reisio> aztecwarrior: I'm not sure there's anything out of the ordinary with random files that haven't extensions confusing the file manager; you saying just recently this was not the case?
[04:38] <diegothinkpad> hello
[04:38] <exidos> the_dark_knight, try this "sudo apt-get install libpcap0.8-dev"
[04:39] <diegothinkpad> anybody here
[04:39] <aztecwarrior> reisio, correct. the folders were working fine and so were the files. after installing the amd drivers only this folder looks like this.
[04:39] <exidos> and then do execute your command again @ the_dark_knight
[04:39] <exidos> yes, we are here, diegothinkpad
[04:39] <gardon> the_dark_knight, try "sudo apt-get -f install" first
[04:40] <diegothinkpad> thanks so i see my ubuntu is working correctly
[04:40] <exidos> gardon, he did it, but "-f" doesn't do it
[04:41] <the_dark_knight> exidos: gardon yes. i get the same error
[04:41] <reisio> aztecwarrior: can you remount that filesystem?
[04:41] <exidos> the_dark_knight, with "-f" or with the command i gave you?
[04:42] <aztecwarrior> reisio, that "shit" folder is on zfs. i wasn't sure if exporting and them importing might solve the problem. i've been using zfs for a long time now and haven't had any problems.
[04:43] <the_dark_knight> exidos: with both
[04:43] <exidos> the_dark_knight, okay, one moment pls
[04:44] <Anom01y> why does my computer get extremely slow and screwy whenever I need to do a kernel update or other major updates ?
[04:44] <Anom01y> nvidia update also
[04:44] <reisio> aztecwarrior: I'll call this more of a hiccup, even if remounting "solves" it
[04:44] <reisio> Anom01y: because it's old
[04:45] <Anom01y> reisio, so hackers are attacking my system ?
[04:45] <Anom01y> because I just saw the update today,  and my computer was very slow, until I did the update and reset the computer
[04:46] <reisio> not sure I see the connection :)
[04:47] <aztecwarrior> reisio, so i exported the zfs mount and reimported and didn't solve the issue. i'll have to learn to backup more often.
[04:47] <aztecwarrior> reisio, thanks for your input
[04:48] <exidos> the_dark_knight, http://packages.debian.org/de/sid/libcap2 install this
[04:48] <exidos> the_dark_knight, then you have all dependencies
[04:48] <reisio> aztecwarrior: mmm, well, that's worth learning, but it could still be a simple issue
[04:48] <reisio> aztecwarrior: you might see what all got installed with your amd update
[04:48] <Dreki> Can someone explain the difference between nvidia-319 and nvidia-319-updates? Is nvidia-319-updates some way of upgrading from a lower package version? and will it only upgrade the former stable or will it also upgrade thee experimental-310 i had installed?
[04:49] <ChogyDan> Dreki: did you install from a ppa?
[04:49] <Dreki> ChogyDan: I installed nvidia-experimental-310 from a ppa yes
[04:50] <the_dark_knight> exidos: thanks.
[04:50] <ChogyDan> Dreki: then I think you need to use the ppa-purge utility
[04:50] <exidos> the_dark_knight, np
[04:50] <ChogyDan> Dreki: and no, -updates is just later released versions of the driver I assume, those after the formal ubuntu testing cycle
[04:52] <Dreki> ChogyDan: thanks
[04:54] <the_dark_knight> exidos: sorry to bother again. do you have a link to libcap 2.20 not 2.22. installing from your link gives error when i did - make
[04:55] <marz> I was wondering about the command "tar -zxvf (file name)" that is used to extract .tar.gz files. Regarding the option "-z" which uses gzip to uncompress the file and "-x" to extract it from archive. Aren't uncompressing and extracting the same thing?
[04:56] <Biafra> marz: in the case of tar, not really...
[04:56] <Biafra> the -z flag basically tells tar to send the tar.gz file through g(un)zip first before tar\
[04:57] <Biafra> it's basically a timesaver to use instead of pipes, > signs, stdout, and cat
[04:57] <exidos> the_dark_knight, http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux/libs/security/linux-privs/libcap2/
[04:58] <ChogyDan> marz: tar strings the files together, gzip compresses just a single file, ie, the single file that tar creates
[04:58] <exidos> the_dark_knight, remove the other package first!
[05:00] <marz> ChogyDan: Oh, so the tar command/application basically groups the files together in an archive, then the gzip compresses it to make it smaller
[05:02] <goddard> whats a good memory testing program?
[05:02] <the_dark_knight> exidos: gives error while make - /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lattr
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> goddard, There is one in the grub men eu and live cd's
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> good is an opinion
[05:04] <exidos> the_dark_knight, i had the same problem a long time ago. I did'nt know how I fixed it.
[05:04] <goddard> wilee-nilee: maybe thats what i want
[05:04] <DooshDroid>  hello
[05:04] <DooshDroid> I installed Linux mint over win 7 and now I'm just getting grub rescue
[05:04] <exidos> the_dark_knight, google a deb package for the libcap
[05:05] <xangua> !mint | DooshDroid
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> goddard, Then what is good for you is good for you, you are not new to this channel it does not work that way. ;)
[05:05] <goddard> wilee-nilee: ya ya i am so tired of hearing people say this
[05:05] <exidos> the_dark_knight, look into the debian doku or wiki of the package and his dependencies
[05:08] <the_dark_knight> exidos: okay. thanks
[05:09] <helmut_> hi
[05:09] <ChogyDan> goddard: I think all the programs run the same tests.  You may want to look into which test is the good one
[05:10] <adamsilver> which version of oracle java i should install at this time?
[05:11] <ChogyDan> adamsilver: yes?
[05:11] <adamsilver> ChogyDan: what do you mean
[05:12] <exidos> adamsilver, the newest dude
[05:12] <xangua> adamsilver: java.com offers the latest if that is what you ask
[05:13] <ChogyDan> adamsilver: just install the latest.
[05:13] <ChogyDan> adamsilver: or maybe just use the open source one till you really need the oracle version
[05:14] <exidos> ChogyDan & adamsilver for chats the oracle is in the most cases needed ;)
[05:14] <adamsilver> ChogyDan: I really need the oracle version actually
[05:15] <adamsilver> I am confused by java.com options, what is the difference between RPM and the other
[05:15] <exidos> adamsilver, you need deb ;)
[05:15] <exidos> adamsilver, these are the different package container
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> !java
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> adamsilver, ^^^^^ the open source and oracles are not any diffrfenet in some versions
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> different
[05:17] <ChogyDan> im pretty sure there are oracle 7 debs
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> and 8
[05:17] <exidos> true true
[05:17] <ChogyDan> adamsilver: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[05:18] <ChogyDan> wilee-nilee: that java page just isn't up to date
[05:18] <adamsilver> ok, so oracle-java7-installer is the latest version, correct?
[05:18] <ChogyDan> no, I guess 8 is.  I'm out of date in that regard  :)
[05:19] <lataku> weird, somehow can't get utf8 working in xterm screen, with screen -U
[05:19] <lataku> my terminal is set to utf8
[05:19] <adamsilver> ChogyDan: this where I am confused. I saw 8 somewhere but the docs you guys referred me to contains the instructions for 6 and 7 only
[05:20] <adamsilver> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Command_line_methods
[05:20] <exidos> adamsilver, 8 is just in developement, 7 is the latest version
[05:21] <exidos> adamsilver, Java 8 is like a "Beta", install the 7, this is the latest version of oracle java at the moment
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, the external links go straight to oracle and sdk, not exactly out of date that is a generalized comment, and it is info in some extent.
[05:21] <exidos> adamsilver, 32-Bit: jre-7uVERSION-linux-i586.tar.gz | 64-Bit: jre-7uVERSION-linux-x64.tar.gz
[05:22] <ChogyDan> wilee-nilee: yeah, it is late for me.  I stopped at the line that says, "there are no debs"
[05:22] <adamsilver> ok, thanks guys
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> adamsilver, You have to research, this channel is part of that if your lucky. ;)
[05:24] <Biafra> adamsilver: 7u25 is the latest stable Oracle Java that is on webupd8team's PPA
[05:24] <exidos>  jre-7u25-linux-i586 is the latest java of oracle
[05:24] <exidos> ^^
[05:25] <adamsilver> wilee-nilee: I know, I just don't want to screw up the new installation I have been customizing since a few hours :)
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> adamsilver, Cool,
[05:25] <Biafra> also, unless you're using something that requires Oracle Java (e.g., developing for Android), it's a tossup
[05:25] <Biafra> as to which is best between OpenJDK and Oracle Java
[05:27] <adamsilver> Biafra: I am using PyCharm for Python development and when I use OpenJDK I get a warning message saying I should use Oracle's Java
[05:30] <Biafra> adamsilver ... yeah, basically add the webupd8team/java ppa then update then install oracle-java7-installer
[05:32] <adamsilver> Biafra: it worked, thanks
[05:33] <Biafra> adamsilver ... excellent
[05:37] <Kartagis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions <--- following this, how can I find out what my options for output are?
[05:38] <ChogyDan> Kartagis: i think you need to look up the specs for your monitor
[05:38] <Kartagis> ChogyDan: I mean, there is S-output, VGA and so on. I'm talking about those
[05:39] <saki`> has anyone here ever worked with postgressql?
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> saki`, The channel works with you stating your issues for help.
[05:43] <saki`> oh okay
[05:44] <saki`> i'm trying to change the encoding for postgres sql databases from SQL_ASCII to UTF-8
[05:44] <saki`> this is the only thing i've found that directly addresses it : http://jacobian.org/writing/pg-encoding-ubuntu/
[05:47] <saki`> but to do that the default locale on my server needs to be en_US.UTF-8
[05:48] <Squarism> what is that "top" replacement called? ie better top
[05:48] <reisio> Squarism: htop?
[05:49] <Squarism> that might be it
[05:49] <saki`> and sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't work
[05:49] <Squarism> talking about better. There is a better version of traceroute to?
[05:49] <Squarism> or. i know there is but cant remember the name
[05:50] <Squarism> mtr it was
[05:59] <saki`> ah
[06:00] <reisio> ah
[06:04] <Dreki> So i have been using nvidia-experimental-310 and have had great success. Is nvidia-319 a newer driver than nvidia-experimental-310 and if so should i consider switching? Am i likely to get better FPS?
[06:06] <Kartagis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions <--- following this, how can I find out what my options for output are?
[06:07] <Kartagis> I mean, there is S-output, VGA and so on. I'm talking about those
[06:07] <Biafra> Dreki - Yeah, it's newer. I'm not sure about FPS though since I'm using Radeon
[06:12] <uronu> hello guys, I want to install an ubuntu desktop client with already a netbeans application or other apps in it. No need to download from the internet.  I mean when installation the application is installed also. Any idea or how can we done it?
[06:13] <uronu> mirror?
[06:42] <A1Recon> As per the man page of ping command -a gives an Audible Ping. So I guess the PC should make a sound when a ping is successful, right? But when I type this "ping -a www.google.com" in the terminal, the pings are successful but I don't hear any sound.
[06:45] <A1Recon> 1660 participants and the #ubuntu is a ghost town.... ODD
[06:46] <reisio> almost 3am
[06:46] <reisio> for some reason people leave IRC on all the time
[06:47] <nevyn> it is not 3am
[06:47] <reisio> it's not 4am, either
[06:48] <reisio> A1Recon: what term are you using?
[06:48] <smeraldo94> Ciaooo
[06:48] <smeraldo94> !list
[06:49] <reisio> A1Recon: also what I'm reading here suggests it makes a sound when it starts pinging after previously failing
[06:49] <A1Recon> reisio: The terminal that comes in with Ubuntu 13.04..... There are types of terminals? I knew about Cygwin for Windows but I didn't know there are different kinds of Terminals for Ubuntu...
[06:50] <reisio> A1Recon: sure, there are hundreds probably
[06:50] <Xentinel> anyone here using VMware workstation?
[06:50] <reisio> A1Recon: see what happens if you disconnect physically from your network, run ping -a www.yahoo.com, then reconnect
[06:51] <reisio> Xentinel: probably someone does
[06:52] <Xentinel> reisio, probably yes, I'm having some annoying stability problems with running a Windows VM in it
[06:52] <A1Recon> reisio: Maybe the command works only if there's a piezo speaker on the Motherboard. But then piezo speakers are an old thing, I guess. And I don't think laptops have them.
[06:53] <tasslehoff> Can the super+<number> shortcuts that open applications be disabled?
[06:55] <reisio> A1Recon: if echo -e '\a' doesn't work, ping -a probably won't
[06:55] <reisio> in truth, most people hate beeping computers
[06:55] <reisio> the fake beeper is probably disabled by default these days
[06:56] <reisio> A1Recon: modprobe pcspkr ?
[06:56] <A1Recon> reisio: i ran the ping -a command first and then disconnected the LAN and reconnected.... no sounds
[06:56] <reisio> A1Recon: I'd just use && mplayer path/to/sound/file
[06:56] <reisio> or, more likely, && killall mplayer
[06:57] <reisio> since I'm usually already listening to music
[06:57] <reisio> or less dramatically: amixer sset Master toggle
[06:57] <reisio> but there are other approaches (that I wouldn't bother with :p) http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Virtual_PC_Speaker
[06:58] <A1Recon> reisio: Thanks for the info and the help... I will  try this thing later....
[07:00] <reisio> :)
[07:09] <grahamsavage_> ok.. i'm having huge lagging problems in chrome every day
[07:09] <grahamsavage_> i'm running latest version, 0 plugins
[07:09] <grahamsavage_> it's like the whole tab freezes
[07:09] <grahamsavage_> for a few seconds and i can't do anything.. i've also reset my profile
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: did you try an uninstall
[07:10] <grahamsavage_> nah, i suppose i could try that next
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: firefox running fine?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: or start chrome from terminal to see whats happening maybe
[07:11] <grahamsavage_> yeah it's still slow (as in the internet)
[07:11] <grahamsavage_> but the window doesn't lock up like it does in chrome
[07:12] <grahamsavage_> i've started from terminal.. no errors
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: you have slow connection?
[07:12] <grahamsavage_> yeah, slow connection and very slow dns
[07:12] <grahamsavage_> 1.5mb bandwidth but high latency
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: did you try on a fast wifi in your neighbourhood if chrome still lags?
[07:13] <grahamsavage_> there's no such thing :D
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: you live in the desert? :p
[07:14] <grahamsavage_> China :D
[07:14] <grahamsavage_> the only place where having a business class fibre-optic connection means nothing :)
[07:14] <Biafra> ouch... probably the golden shower... err... shield project
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> grahamsavage_, Purge it and remove it from .config, save the bookmarks first then reinstall.
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> grahamsavage_: well i presume your chrome lags comes from lowband internet
[07:15] <grahamsavage_> lotuspsychje: yeah but this is the software lagging
[07:15] <grahamsavage_> even if the pictures take a while to download
[07:15] <Biafra> grahamsavage_, have you tried using the beta or dev version of chrome?
[07:15] <grahamsavage_> doesn't mean it should lock up the whole window
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:15] <grahamsavage_> Biafra: no.. but my theory is if they haven't got it working in the last 4 months.. then they won't any time soon
[07:16] <Ov3rload> hi, i'm getting lag spikes with my wifi, any idea on how to solve? https://gist.github.com/Ov3rlo4d/c779007e2bf93d137961#file-lag_spikes
[07:16] <grahamsavage_> Biafra: i hate these kinds of errors.. i much prefer big ugly error message with a code
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> grahamsavage_, Have you checked the net speed?
[07:17] <grahamsavage_> wilee-nilee: like i said.. netspeed (throughput) is actually quite fast
[07:17] <grahamsavage_> comparativly... but DNS is pretty shocking
[07:17] <grahamsavage_> but the issue is not the dns lookup speed on the download speed.. it's the fact that the entire chrome tabs will lock up
[07:17] <grahamsavage_> all the time every day.. and it's enormously frustrating
[07:17] <grahamsavage_> ohh yeah key point.. doesn't happen in  OSX or Windows
[07:18] <Biafra> grahamsavage_, check your plugins
[07:18] <grahamsavage_> Biafra; 0 plugins, latest version, blank profile
[07:18] <Biafra> Then try beta or dev channel
[07:19] <grahamsavage_> ok
[07:19] <Biafra> start with dev
[07:19] <grahamsavage_> is it call chroem canary?
[07:19] <grahamsavage_> chrome*
[07:19] <Biafra> it will give you an inside peek into the next version, which you would not get for six week on stable...
[07:20] <Biafra> checking...
[07:20] <grahamsavage_>  sudo apt-get install google-chrome-unstable
[07:21] <Biafra> grahamsavage_, exactly
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Ov3rload: seems like bad url, whats your chipset?
[07:24] <pakko> hi
[07:25] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: the url is good, github just went down. My card is this: Atheros Communications, Inc. TP-Link TL-WN821N v3 802.11n [Atheros AR7010+AR9287]
[07:25] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: using ath9k_htc
[07:25] <reisio> hi pakko
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Ov3rload: default driver from install? what happens exactly with wifi, disconnects?
[07:27] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: yes default drivers. If i ping my router i normally ping about 1-2 ms, but occasionally about 5 pings in a row go up to ~400 ms
[07:27] <_45h_> hey, guys, i made btsync repository http://btsync.blindage.org/ for automatic updates
[07:28] <kofild> haha, great, i joined irc to ask a question, while i set up my irc client, i forgot what the Q was
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> Ov3rload: on what version of ubuntu?
[07:28] <_45h_> btsync is a bittorrent sync http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync/other-download.html
[07:28] <_45h_> something like dropbox, but useful
[07:28] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: 13.04, kernel 3.8.0-27-generic
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> _45h_: better share in offtopic mate
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> Ov3rload: did your issue happen on previous versions of ubuntu?
[07:31] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: yeah, i thinks so, but not really sure
[07:31] <Ov3rload> lotuspsychje: i'm noticing the problem now because i'm dealing with real time data stream, and a 400ms lag spikes are a bit disruptive
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Ov3rload: maybe this can help: http://itsfoss.com/speed-up-slow-wifi-connection-ubuntu/
[07:34] <mweidele> exit
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> hmm seems like the atheros link on !wifi trigger is a bit outdated
[07:41] <goddard> how can i tweak my refresh rate?
[07:47] <kofild> Oh, yes, i remembered! OK guys, just one question. When i install ubuntu, and leave it to partition the disk however it wants itself, how much of diskspace goes for the system? and how much for swap?
[07:49] <ejv> it will probably ask you
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> kofild: as much as your needs
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> !swap | kofild
[07:50] <kofild> I understand i can set it, but when i choose the default option for installer to do it itself, how much does it leave by default? Or it varies depending on your hardware?
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> kofild: for the hd there a minimum for ubuntu, not sure how many again think 6gig
[07:51] <kofild> OK, let me put it this way, i see i bring confusion unintendedly. i have a 500GB disk, how much will it take for a / partition?
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> kofild: you wanna use ubuntu on full hd?
[07:52] <kofild> lotuspsychje yes. i don't dual boot.
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> kofild: as much as possible then, and leave 2gig for swap
[07:53] <atLANtis> hello guys
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> kofild: more easy is the option let ubuntu fill the hd in install
[07:54] <kofild> the reason i'm asking is because o don't want to partition myself just in case i don't mess up anything
[07:54] <kofild> so i'd like ubiquity to do it itself
[07:54] <kofild> but want to know if it takes atleast 20 gigs
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> kofild: sure
[07:54] <kofild> so i definitely have enough
[07:54] <kofild> space
[07:54] <kofild> for functioning
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> kofild: i would use whole hd by install itself
[07:55] <kofild> oh, is that the default option?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: welcome mate, what can we do for you
[07:55] <atLANtis> hi lotuspsychje
[07:55] <atLANtis> thanks
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> kofild: no thats not the default, you can dualboot,upgrade, use full hd, manually partition..
[07:56] <kofild> OK, i'll try to check it in ubiquity
[07:57] <kofild> thanks lotuspsychje:
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> kofild: np mate
[07:58] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, I'm having a lot of "system error" problems, was hoping someone could help me figure out what in my system is the problem
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: if you share us your details we can surely help you
[07:59] <kofild> Yeah, i wouldn't be me if i wouldn't forget something. Does Chromium update automatically in Precise, like Firefox?
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> kofild: if you have installed chromium, it will update with auto updates yes
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium | kofild
[08:00] <kofild> lotuspsychje: again, thank you very much for your time and answer!
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> !find chromium
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> ah
[08:00] <kofild> ubottu: i won't use raring.
[08:00] <nachoLog> I have installed 13.04 desktop over 10 times on different laptops. every time after the initial "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" or software update from Ubuntu software center. The PC will not shutdown. when i try to restart EVERYTIME it just goes into like a suspend mode. and every time i have to manually power off. then on restart Ubuntu checks disk for errors and then boots up fine. what is going on here?
[08:01] <kofild> WAT
[08:01] <kofild> :D
[08:01] <kofild> i have no idea what just happened :D
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> kofild: just install chromium on your system after install, doesnt come by default
[08:04] <nachoLog> after the initial softare update after a clean install from live usb am i supposed to get that suspend mode? is that the os reconfiguring or something after update? I have waited over 45 minutes before and nothing. and this happens every time i update after a clean install. what is this ? everyone must have this too right ?
[08:04] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, thanks a lot. here: I'm running ubuntu 13.04 x64 on a Fujitsu UH572.  Currently only have 32GB of drive because had HDD corruption, using only the onboard SSD 4now. Everytime I boot, I get a system error. During 6 hours of work it's probable that I'll get 6 system errors. And often, the whole thing just freezes up and I have to force restart... Hope u could point me in the right direction.
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: what kind of system errors are we talking about?
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: can you check your logs at /var/log/syslog.1 ?
[08:05] <wilee-nilee> nachoLog, how many different laptops?
[08:06] <nachoLog> three
[08:06] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, the errors have no clarification whatsoever, they only offer the option to submit report to ubuntu
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: normally you can detail those errors, pastebin them into channel here might be usefull
[08:07] <wilee-nilee> nachoLog, Are they perchance the same manufacturer, any similarities, what you describe never happens here is all, and some just do not suspend correctly or hibernate.
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: did to set IDE to AHCI in bios for your ssd?
[08:07] <gradiant> hmm
[08:07] <Gorgoroth> hi
[08:07] <Gorgoroth> i have a question
[08:07] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, thanks will do. I meant to say the Error Popups didin't have any info whatsoever
[08:08] <ironhalik> Did I just saw ubuntu telling me my wireless mouse is low on power?!
[08:08] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: its after the intial updates that when i restart it it goes into a gray screen suspend type mode and just sits there and wont power down. and when i restart the pc it checks disk for errors, but after that it never happens again. everytime its just after that initial update. so i am wondering if i am su[ossed to wait longer for it to shut down? is it thinking ? lol.
[08:08] <ironhalik> what the
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 can show you interesting stuff in realtime aswell (from terminal)
[08:08] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: i have waited almost an hour before
[08:08] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, I'm not sure - any way I can check without rebooting?
[08:09] <Moony22> whoops sorry
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: did your fujitsu have another Os using uefi before?
[08:09] <wilee-nilee> nachoLog, Problem here in actually getting to the bottom is specificities, there are a lot of possible variables, so all one can do is knock them out/
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: no, if its bios, you need reboot and enter
[08:10] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: what i mean is like with windows after a big update you know how it takes a while for it to shut down. am i interupting a process by manually powering down there?
[08:11] <gradiant> nachoLog: I definitely wouldn't hit the power button while its installing updates?
[08:11] <nachoLog> gradiant: no no its after the upodates on reboot i get stuck in gray screen
[08:12] <nachoLog> gradiant: and only the first big round of updates after clean install
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> nachoLog, and the graphic cards are? Do you install any drivers outside the repos?
[08:12] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje: yeah, came with Win8. I should have mentioned this before, but I had to reinstall Win8 about 7 times before I decided to go with Ubuntu. Turned out, the HD was corrupted, which seemed to be the root of all those problems. I
[08:12] <emurillo510_2> hey i have a question, if i switch to ubuntu will my battery life be as bad as windows 7? i have a thinkpad x220
[08:13] <gradiant> nachoLog: oh, weird, sorry
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | atLANtis
[08:13] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: no just the sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[08:13] <deepfunk> hey all
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> emurillo510_2, slightly worse probably, battery binaries are not provided for linux in general.
[08:14] <emurillo510_2> slightly worse as in a coupe hours? or mins
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> nachoLog, Hard to say, all I can do is repeat that exacting details are the key here.
[08:14] <deepfunk> i have a question that concerns the software center on ubuntu 13.4
[08:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Heyo, bit of an issue. running ubuntu 13.04, occasionally I get kicked back to the login screen, any info on debugging? what logs should I look at?
[08:15] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: i know but this has been one thorn in my side from the begining and it is EVERYTIME i mean every install on three laptops over maybe 20 installs
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> emurillo510_2, Hard to say, you have not even shred the actual time they last now and we can't accuratelty estimate that
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> shared*
[08:16] <emurillo510_2> ic
[08:16] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: unetbootin live usb from hash sum checked iso everytime after the initial updtes like i said when i reboot the pc wont shut down just gray screen
[08:16] <deepfunk> hey?
[08:16] <emurillo510_2> thanks
[08:16] <k1l_> !details | deepfunk
[08:17] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje: wow. thanks a lot! I didnt know there were so many extra checkpoints to setting it up. I literally haven't touched anything in the BIOS. Will do now.
[08:17] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: and every single time i have to manually power off , and then on restart ubuntu checks disk for errors then boots up fine and never another issue. its just a glitch that is driving me crazy
[08:18] <deepfunk> I have a problem with ubuntu software center, i'm running ubuntu 13.04. When i try tio download tor through it, the dowload stops and it won't let me download anything else or stop the download
[08:20] <nachoLog> wilee-nilee: anyway i was hoping to hear that this was at least a common issue. if not then something bad is goin on here in my little world
[08:21] <k1l_> deepfunk: try using apt-get and look out for error messages
[08:22] <deepfunk> can't i stop the download?
[08:23] <nachoLog> i have a core i7 intel processor. how come every time i install 13.04 desktop 64 x86 distro. when i look at "about his computer" under "os type" is always says 32 bit? what is that?
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> deepfunk, stopping downloads in general cause problems, and may be the root of this one.
[08:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> deepfunk: this is why I use apt-get
[08:24] <deepfunk> i tried using apt get but it wont do
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> deepfunk, And wont do means?
[08:25] <k1l_> deepfunk: so you did install a .deb package?
[08:25] <jamescarr> how can I kill an upstart service that claims to be running when the process under it has exited?
[08:25] <reisio> jamescarr: how've you tried?
[08:26] <mcnesium> i am trying to start screens via crontab using @reboot /home/mcnesium/bin/startscreen.sh - this works, but the screens obviously do not use my environment variables. what can i do about it? when i start the script manually, eveything is ok since i am using the variables as well. can i say to use them in the shellscript, so that they get used when started automatically by cron?
[08:26] <jamescarr> reisio: I have tried sudo service xxxx stop
[08:26] <jamescarr> it hangs
[08:26] <jamescarr> I need to force stop it so I can restart it
[08:26] <jamescarr> I tried sudo service docker-registry restart, it also hangs
[08:30] <nachoLog> is Unetbootin can not install a 64 bit OS or something? both my laptops say that under "os type' is 32 bit but the ISo's i downloaded are hsh sum checked as 64 bit distro.. am i going crazy ?
[08:30] <Biafra> nachoLog, run uname -a
[08:30] <Biafra> check the output for amd64 and/or x86_64
[08:31] <nachoLog> 3.8.0-29-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 23:12:18 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:31] <nachoLog> but the distros were i386 right /
[08:32] <nachoLog> how can this be?
[08:32] <Biafra> nachoLog, are you certain the isos were for the 64-bit versions?
[08:32] <nachoLog> yes
[08:32] <nachoLog> very much yes
[08:32] <Biafra> how did you download them
[08:32] <nachoLog> hash sum checked from Untu releaes raring
[08:33] <nachoLog> Biafra: i download fro mthe Ubuntu releases everytime
[08:33] <Biafra> I mean, did you download directly from ubuntu.com?
[08:33] <Biafra> or via some other means?
[08:35] <nachoLog> Biafra: from ubuntu
[08:35] <Biafra> hmmm... have you tried using Pendrive Linux?
[08:36] <nachoLog> releases.ubuntu.com/raring
[08:36] <nachoLog> Biafra: no i have not
[08:36] <kenshiro> Hi, what's the scheduled hour for 12.04.3 point release? The web page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack is still not upgraded
[08:37] <nachoLog> i always choosed the PC(INtelx86) desktop image
[08:38] <nachoLog> Biafra: so i should try Pendrive Linux then yes
[08:38] <nachoLog> Biafra: maybe its Unetbootin the culprit
[08:38] <Biafra> In all likelihood nachoLog
[08:39] <Biafra> If that doesn't work, then try borrowing a friend's external DVD drive
[08:39] <Biafra> assumuming yours has problems, nachoLog
[08:39] <nachoLog> Biafra: i need an ultrabse for the thinkpad yes
[08:40] <nachoLog> Biafra: maybe its Unetbootin the culpritwhole house is the blu ray on my ps3
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> kenshiro, aug 22nd time who knows.
[08:40] <xintron> Where are ufw storing the forward rules that users added?
[08:40] <Increase> Hello everyone.
[08:41] <nachoLog> Biafra: oops .. i mean the only opticla drive i have is on my ps3 .. anywya i will try Pendrive Linux and see if that workd
[08:41] <Increase> I'm curious if anyone has used win32 to install live USBs
[08:41] <Biafra> kenshiro, 22 August, give or take a week
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> Increase, Why would you?
[08:42] <Increase> It keeps blocking my USB and making me reformat using bootice
[08:42] <nachoLog> Biafra: could the issue be that i am running a 64 bit os but it just says that under os type i am on 32?
[08:42] <nachoLog> oh wai tno because the output of uname -a
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> Increase, There are handfuls of usb loaders.
[08:42] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje, All of the options you and the Ubuntu help page mentioned are disabled in my BIOS... :(
[08:42] <Biafra> nacholog, the output of uname -a shows you are using a 32-bit OS
[08:43] <Increase> wilee-nilee that's what the kali-linux tutorial says to install with
[08:43] <nachoLog> Biafra: how could that be is so crazy
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> Increase, kali is not supported here.
[08:43] <Biafra> the only thing I can think of is that you may have accidentally downloaded the 32-bit ISO
[08:43] <nachoLog> how could i get a 32 bit os from a verified 64 bit iso
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> atLANtis: ok mate i would focus on future errors, pastebin them in channel for more specific help
[08:43] <nachoLog> Biafra: let me try getting the iso from ubuntu.com and not the releases.ubuntu.com instead...
[08:44] <Biafra> nachoLog, Who knows? To be on the safe side, delete your current ISO and download from ubuntu.com/download
[08:44] <Biafra> Make sure you select 64-bit, nachoLog
[08:44] <Biafra> from the dropdown
[08:46] <nachoLog> Biafra: yep here we go again.. this will be my umpteenth install. bbl
[08:47] <Increase_> Blah
[08:47] <josephtacos> is the a new way to enable mod_rewrite in apache2.4.6? on ubuntu 13.10
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | josephtacos
[08:47] <kenshiro> wilee-nilee Biafra ok, thank you! :-)
[08:48] <wilee-nilee> sure
[08:48] <atLANtis> lotuspsychje: thanks...  there it is -> http://pastebin.com/cMUraRrx
[08:49] <david_j_r> Anyone able to tell me how to get Windows share drives (which I can browse fine in Nautilus) into the system's "Places" menu on 13.04?
[08:50] <Increase> http://docs.kali.org/installation/kali-linux-live-usb-install states to use win-32 disc imager
[08:51] <Increase> I've tried pendrive linux and linuxlive USB and they didn;t work.
[08:51] <DJones> Increase: Thats for Kali, this channel only supports Ubuntu, you're probably better going to the Kali channel and asking them
[08:52] <Increase> I've never joined their channel
[08:52] <DJones> !kali
[08:52] <Increase> And it says I'm banned
[08:53] <DJones> Increase: If you join #freenode, the people there should be able to advise you who to contact in the kali channel to sort that out
[08:53] <AcidRain2012> Increase, thats because at one point a non registered user got glined
[08:54] <Increase> glined?
[08:54] <AcidRain2012> Increase, i have that issue in every channel except #ubuntu
[08:54] <Increase> And thanks DJ ones
[08:54] <AcidRain2012> Increase, ban
[08:54] <Increase> Ahh, gotcha
[08:54] <AcidRain2012> Increase, /ns register help
[08:54] <Increase> Thanks for the help guys
[08:54] <Increase> I registered this nick
[08:55] <Increase> But I can still talk with it even if I don't identify
[08:55] <Increase> I don't really get how it helps.
[08:55] <k1l_> Increase: for problems with other channels ask their op team or #freenode
[08:55] <k1l_> we cant help on that
[08:57] <Increase> k
[08:58] <NK`> is it normal that private bug on launchpad appears as if the page doesn't exist ?
[08:58] <NK`> or does that mean the bug have been removed ?
[08:58] <reisio> what's a private bug?
[08:58] <NK`> a bug flaged as "private"
[08:58] <NK`> flagged*
[08:59] <Increase> Hey guys, why can't you install stuff untill you do sudo apt-get update
[08:59] <Increase> It's annoying having to update everytime on live
[08:59] <auronandace> Increase: the repos have to be in sync
[09:00] <Increase> repos?
[09:00] <NK`> repository
[09:00] <auronandace> Increase: why are you using a live system then? why not do an install?
[09:00] <Increase> Gotcha
[09:00] <Increase> Still getting the hang of it
[09:00] <Increase> And I heard you can fuck you system up if you don't install correctly with windows
[09:00] <reisio> NK`: and that doesn't have anything to do with whether one can view it or not?
[09:00] <auronandace> !language | Increase
[09:00] <Increase> Sorrrrrry
[09:01] <auronandace> Increase: partitioning is really easy when you know how
[09:01] <NK`> reisio: that's exactly what i'm wondering
[09:02] <reisio> NK`: :)
[09:02] <Increase> auronandace ... I basically just said I don't know how. Lol
[09:02] <NK`> actually it's been the second time i report a bug which is automatically marked as a duplicate
[09:02] <reisio> NK`: what's the URI?
[09:02] <reisio> ah, well that happens
[09:02] <Huriachi> Hey #ubuntu, is anyone aware of a way to enable the cursor on a device with only a touch-screen input?
[09:02] <NK`> but the duplicate is marked as private
[09:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: yep, but best way to do it is windows first, yeah?
[09:02] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: indeed
[09:03] <NK`> but when i click on the private bug the answer is the same as if the bug doesn't exist, which is confusing
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Huriachi: should have one... I got a touch device and it has a cursor when I use that.
[09:03] <auronandace> !partitioning | Increase
[09:03] <reisio> Huriachi: check the theme
[09:03] <NK`> why would a bug be private anyway except for security reason ?
[09:04] <Huriachi> ntzrmtthihu777: I'll quickly give that a try.
[09:04] <auronandace> Increase: as always, when it comes to partitioning there is a risk so you should have backups (which is best practise anyway)
[09:05] <drasko> hi all my SD Card reader does not detect SD card inserted. Dmesg shows nothing
[09:05] <drasko> where to investigate?
[09:06] <Increase> !tails
[09:06] <drasko> any ideas?
[09:06] <Increase> Anyone know if tails is still in development?
[09:07] <Huriachi> reisio: Okay, the theme does not make a difference. When I connect my mouse from my PC the cursor appears, but promptly vanishes when it is removed.
[09:07] <raf> salve
[09:07] <reisio> Increase: plenty of other such live OSes if it isn't
[09:07] <auronandace> Increase: what is it? what does it do?
[09:07] <reisio> raf: salvete
[09:08] <raf> !addon
[09:08] <reisio> Huriachi: when the mouse is removed?
[09:08] <Increase> Tails is like ubuntu
[09:08] <Increase> It's a linux distro
[09:08] <auronandace> Increase: we only deal with ubuntu here
[09:08] <Increase> I just asked a question man...
[09:08] <auronandace> Increase: if you want info on other distros try ##linux
[09:09] <david_j_r> Anyone willing/able to tell me how to get Windows share drives (which I can browse fine in Nautilus) into the system's "Places" menu on 13.04?
[09:09] <yeehi>  I am trying to update the kernel. I fail with the following error message: unmet dependencies depends virtual package :  http://pastebin.com/66LduBtN
[09:09] <k1l_> Increase: this is a ubuntu support channel. i think we told you quite often now. we dont know what other distros or spinoffs changed so please ask them directly
[09:09] <Huriachi> reisio: Yes. When a mouse is hot-plugged, the cursor is visible only while the mouse is still present in the USB slot.
[09:10] <NK`> reisio: one of the uri btw : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1215003
[09:10] <reisio> Huriachi: interesting
[09:10] <reisio> Huriachi: can you run 'pgrep -l unclutter' ?
[09:12] <sec_> what status of "retrieving file..."?
[09:12] <sec_> it's stoping long time..
[09:14] <burg> hello. is ubuntu server 12.04.3 released and stable? is it safe to install it instead of 12.04.2 ?
[09:16] <k1l_> burg: it was released just today
[09:16] <burg> k1l_, i am trying to install it from usb stick just now, and at 'detect hardware' step it tells me that my installation cd-rom couldn't be mounted
[09:16] <Huriachi> reisio: 'pgrep -l unclutter' does not return any running processes. I've also just noticed that the mouse is briefly present when Ubuntu starts up, or shuts down.
[09:17] <reisio> hrmmm, I wonder how they're disabling it
[09:18] <reisio> Huriachi: you might compare the output of 'ps aux' with and without the mouse inserted
[09:21] <burg> k1l_, and i got the image from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/precise/daily/current/ (which was updated 2 days ago, not today). and on the official download page there is still 12.04.2 version
[09:21] <k1l_> burg: that are not the stable releases
[09:22] <gordonjcp> burg: how are you creating the USB stick?
[09:22] <burg> k1l_, so where do i find the stable server 12.04.3 ?
[09:22] <k1l_> daily means its the daily development release
[09:22] <burg> using unetbootin
[09:22] <k1l_> burg: the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule says it will come today. then its not released yet
[09:23] <k1l_> burg: but you can install a 12.04.2 this will become a .3 with updates
[09:24] <burg> k1l_, the problem is that 12.04.2 doesn't have a driver for my network adapter, so i can't have an internet connection.
[09:25] <iclebyte> morning.
[09:25] <reisio> mornin'
[09:26] <david_j_r> Hi! 	Anyone willing/able to tell me how to get Windows share drives (which I can browse fine in Nautilus) into the system's "Places" menu on 13.04?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> david_j_r: add it to bookmarks
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> david_j_r: cog menu on the top right of nautilus, if memory serves
[09:29] <david_j_r> ActionParsnip: locations *are* bookmarked, but don't show up in *places* which is all you get in some dialogs.
[09:29] <david_j_r> Here's a screenshot to show difference: http://i.imgur.com/ow4hEoa.jpg
[09:30] <david_j_r> Nautilus on left has bookmarks; "Save file" dialog from browser only has "Places".
[09:30] <david_j_r> So you can't save download directly to shared drive. :S
[09:31] <david_j_r> (The "shared" bookmarks locations are the M: and U: locations on the left.)
[09:32] <msq> I join
[09:33] <sec_> wtf
[09:33] <sec_> it takes hour for installing language packs
[09:34] <Zooty> Hey, am I able to install Windows 7 on one hard drive and Ubuntu on the other hard drive, then somehow choose between them at startup ?
[09:34] <gordonjcp> Zooty: grub
[09:35] <Zooty> Do I install Windows 7, then Ubuntu over it? Or does it not matter?
[09:35] <DJones> Zooty: Yes, thats straight forward, install windows first, then Ubuntu
[09:35] <Zooty> So I could leave my current installation as it is now then just install Ubuntu on the other hard drive?
[09:35] <DJones> Zooty: Ubuntu will then install the grub bootloader which will let you select which operating system you want to start up
[09:35] <Zooty> Oh thankyou!
[09:36] <Huriachi> reisio: Nothing changes between the two 'ps aux' outputs.
[09:39] <reisio> Huriachi: the humanity
[09:39] <reisio> Huriachi: look around for a udev rule maybe
[09:41] <sec_> hi
[09:41] <sec_> oh reisio
[09:41] <Huriachi> reisio: I'll give that a go
[09:42] <reisio> sec_: ?
[09:44] <sec_> reisio: why install take much time?
[09:45] <reisio> sec_: how long is it taking?
[09:46] <sec_> reisio: more than 1hour till now
[09:47] <reisio> sec_: that sounds atypical
[09:47] <sec_> i don't choose download from internet but it's downloading packages....
[09:48] <reisio> ah
[09:48] <reisio> yeah that's annoying
[09:48] <reisio> probably the simplest way to avoid that is to install without a network connection :)
[09:49] <blazemore> Although you'll still have to get the updates after installation
[09:49] <sec_> yes but feeling is importal
[09:50] <blazemore> It'll take longer because you will be installing the old versions and then downloading new versions as well
[09:50] <blazemore> If you just install them during the installation process, you won't have to redownload anything
[09:50] <reisio> but he'll be able to use the OS while it's happening :)
[09:50] <blazemore> longer in total, I mean
[09:50] <blazemore> I suppose. Although in the time we've been discussing it they'd have finished anyway lol
[09:51] <reisio> maybe for people othe than sec, anyways, heh
[09:53] <sec_> so this is not newest? ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[09:53] <DJones> sec_: It will be the newest iso, but there will still be updates since the iso was created
[09:54] <Araneidae> How can I serve my own DNS names for my local network with an Ubuntu server?
[09:54] <DJones> sec_: 12.04.2 was released on 14th February, so there will be a lot of updates since then
[09:54] <Araneidae> I can install bind or I can use dnsmasq, I think, but configuring things right is eluding me...
[09:54] <sec_> DJones: so should update iso then, i lost more than 1hour dl iso, now need morethan 1hour wait download update :(
[09:55] <babinlonston> Network error please verify my pstein
[09:55] <babinlonston> pastein
[09:55] <babinlonston> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6013465/
[09:55] <babinlonston> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6013465/
[09:55] <DJones> sec_: I'd just be patient, 12.04.3 hasn't been released yet, so even if you redownloaded the iso, you'd then have to go through the updates
[09:56] <Araneidae> For instance, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq makes no mention of resolveconf, which is unfortunate as it thoroughly gets in the way
[09:56] <babinlonston> configured br0 now br0 removed and i cant up the network
[09:56] <DJones> sec_: The iso's don't get updated everytime and updated piece of software gets added/released, they're only released about every 6 months
[09:57] <sec_> DJones: great. instalation complete now
[09:58] <Guest60599> how can I connect a jack audio client...Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server
[10:00] <sec_> DJones: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ny88sjsmjwrfj6/ufsk.png feeling confused
[10:01] <DJones> sec_: That looks like your graphics drivers still need to be installed/updated & configured, its not something I've had issues with
[10:01] <Quest> how much memory and processor does a fresh ubuntu/ kubuntu install _actually_ takes while idle?
[10:01] <DJones> sec_: Can you give details to the channel on what graphics card you have so that somebody can advise you better
[10:02] <sec_> DJones: i am using virtualbox
[10:03] <sec_> DJones: it's default by virtualbox config 4.2.16 imo
[10:03] <DJones> sec_: Thats definatly something I don't a lot about, I very rarely use it, hopefully somebody else here will be able to advise you
[10:03] <NK`> reisio: the origin bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1215310
[10:04] <NK`> hm
[10:04] <NK`> what's wrong with this bot
[10:05] <DJones> sec_: You could also join #vbox and ask there, thats a virtualbox support channel
[10:06] <Guest60599> I just want to use audio rec.
[10:07] <Guest60599> to make music
[10:08] <Araneidae> How do I tell my system which DNS nameservers to use?
[10:09] <Araneidae> More specifically (as /etc/resolv.conf has been taken over by resolvconf), how do I tell resolvconf?
[10:12] <Guest60599> using Qjack... how do I connect my self as a client?
[10:14] <sec_> DJones: should i try 13.4?
[10:15] <Araneidae> Where do upstart scripts live now?
[10:15] <TylerWhitney> anybody here help me out with stunnel or point me to a good room to ask about it?
[10:16] <Araneidae> (Trying for really easy questions now)
[10:16] <Guest60599> is ubuntuStudio ok to make music?...
[10:16] <DJones> sec_: Was anybody able to help you in vbox? I'd try and get the problem sorted out rather than just changing versions
[10:17] <sec_> DJones: noone help...
[10:17] <Araneidae> Channel seems witless at the moment :(
[10:18] <DJones> sec_: Give it a bit of time, maybe ask the question again in about 10-15 minutes
[10:18] <blazemore> Araneidae: For the DNS thing, are you on a desktop or a server?
[10:18] <DJones> Guest60599: Ubuntustudio is media based, the best people to speak to will be in their dedicated channel, #ubuntustudio
[10:19] <Araneidae> blazemore, well, it's a lubuntu box set up as an HTPC, but it's going to have to stand in as a server for the time being
[10:19] <cfhowlett> Guest60599, come over to #ubuntustudio and restate the issue
[10:19] <Araneidae> I'm currently trying to get dnsmasq set up, but I don't think I know what I'm doing yet...
[10:20] <jpds> Araneidae: None of us do, actually.
[10:20] <Araneidae> I'm sure that's true ;)
[10:20] <Araneidae> However, we all know little fragments
[10:20] <blazemore> Araneidae: look in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[10:20] <Araneidae> It looks like I need to configure all of network-manager, resolvconf, and dnsmasq
[10:21] <Araneidae> blazemore, even though I'm setting up a static IP?
[10:21] <blazemore> Araneidae: Yes
[10:21] <Araneidae> Ah, ok
[10:21] <Araneidae> Not much there actually
[10:21] <blazemore> Araneidae: I think the line is called "prepend domain server" or something
[10:22] <Araneidae> Oh, I see.  And there I can give it my domain name!
[10:22] <blazemore> No, that's for static DNS servers
[10:22] <blazemore> what ends up in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:22] <TylerWhitney> I have installed stunnel4 with apt and then edited /etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf to my liking, but if I try to run stunnel /etc/stunnel/stunne.conf or simply stunnel stunnel.conf from that directory it still seems to be ignoring the conf file
[10:22] <Araneidae> Thanks.  Which bit do I restart after hacking this file?
[10:22] <blazemore> Araneidae: networking
[10:22] <blazemore> !dns
[10:23] <blazemore> oh not that
[10:23] <Araneidae> Ah.  Yes, I need to configure that somewhere: I've put some entries in /etc/hosts, but I'd like them to resolve with my full local domain name
[10:23] <blazemore> then you need to put "search example.com" in resolv.conf
[10:24] <trindaz> having trouble with ssh tunnelling, is this the place for help with that?
[10:24] <blazemore> !ask
[10:24] <Araneidae> blazemore, yes ... but alas resolvconf is in the way!
[10:24]  * Araneidae curses the growing complexity of systems
[10:25] <blazemore> Araneidae: there's /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[10:25] <Araneidae> aha.  Ta.  Dammit, everything is scattered
[10:25] <blazemore> man resolvconf
[10:25] <trindaz> I have 3 computers - (1) is not allowed to talk to (3) but can talk to (2) and (2) can talk to (3) so I want to set up an SSH tunnel on (2) so that all requests to :3306 get forwarded straight to (3) which will let (1) talk to (3).
[10:25] <trindaz> How do I do that?
[10:26] <trindaz> do I need to log on to (2) and run a command?
[10:26] <Zorky> Im asking here, because it seems to be the easiest. Has anyone experienced a bug in unity where, when pressing the gear button top right corner. That you need to hold the mousebutton down in order to navigate the dropdown menu?
[10:27] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:27] <jrib> trindaz: well how do you intend to setup a tunnel on (2) without logging in at *some* point
[10:27] <TylerWhitney> FYI I solved my own problem, "stunnel" is just a perl wrapper script to "stunnel4" and was therefore ignoring me specifying the conf file, when i simply used the stunnel4 command it resulted in what I expected -_- noob
[10:28] <trindaz> i assumed I would need to - I've tried various combinations of ssh -L and ssh -R and I just don't understand what's what - I've read the man page a couple of times and I still don't ge tit
[10:28] <Araneidae> trindaz: use `ssh -L 2222:host3:22 host2` and leave it running, then use `ssh -p 2222` locally to connect to host3 from host 1.
[10:28] <Araneidae> Think there's a command line option to detach the first command
[10:28] <jrib> trindaz: you have two options, you can set up a tunnel (as Araneidae as given you a concrete example for) or you can just use ProxyCommand option with ssh
[10:29] <Zorky> i would apriciate if people could answer me question. even tho you havent experienced the bug.
[10:29] <eltigre> hey, I have a problem with my signatures
[10:30] <eltigre> apt-get update says it can't download several signatures
[10:30] <voltagex> hi, I'm getting a black screen after GRUB when trying to boot a liveUSB via UEFI
[10:30] <denker> Hello when I am trying to make a new resolution in xrandr it just tells me this: X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)   Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)   Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (RRCreateMode)   Serial number of failed request:  33   Current serial number in output stream:  33       what am I doind wrong?
[10:31] <denker> I need to lower my monitors refresh rate btw
[10:31] <denker> that's what I am trying to do
[10:31] <trindaz> aaah so it can't be 2222:host3:2222
[10:31] <DJones> Zorky: People generally don't reply if they don't know, could get a bit much if 1700 users replied just saying no, sorry, no idea :)
[10:31] <trindaz> has to be different ports
[10:32] <Zorky> DJones:  i know. i was counting on people that was active in the channel at the time. could just give me a private answer or anything. since im lost regarding this issue
[10:32] <blazemore> trindaz: this is what I use in my .ssh/config file http://paste.ubuntu.com/6013554/
[10:32] <blazemore> trindaz: Replace "target.com" and "intermediate.com" obviously
[10:32] <trindaz> that's interesting, so i can skip port numbers all together if i want?
[10:33] <Zorky> voltagex:  are you trying to install ubuntu on a mac computer?
[10:33] <trindaz> oh hang o nnow
[10:33] <reisio> 22 is the default
[10:33] <trindaz> that was -q
[10:33] <blazemore> Yeah that has the benefit that you can set up as many hosts to tunnel through intermediate as you want
[10:33] <blazemore> trindaz: It's kind of the same as doing "ssh intermediate ssh target" which would work just fine
[10:33] <blazemore> It just makes it more automatic
[10:34] <Araneidae> blazemore, something wierd: after restarting networking the network manager icon has vanished from the taskbar!
[10:34] <blazemore> Araneidae: You just said you were using static IPs...
[10:34] <Araneidae> Absolutely, so presumably I want to tell network-manager to go get lost?
[10:34] <Araneidae> How do I do that?
[10:35] <blazemore> http://askubuntu.com/questions/249944/how-can-i-completely-remove-networkmanager
[10:35] <blazemore> !lubuntu
[10:36] <Araneidae> Ah, think adding the append line to dhclient.conf or something has given network-manger kittens anyway.  Thanks for the link, will set up stating networking
[10:40] <[OS]Cazazo> help me please... when opening the terminal.. I got the error message: bash: /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs: line 278: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[10:42] <[OS]Cazazo> I have tried to gedit the file, but doesn't open it...  I got another error message
[10:42] <[OS]Cazazo> ** (gedit:2691): WARNING **: Hit unhandled case 0 (Error reading from file: Input/output error) in parse_error.
[10:44] <Araneidae> [OS]Cazazo, ouch.  Did you change anything just now?  Any idea who owns /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs ? Can't see it on my system
[10:45] <[OS]Cazazo> I'm having problems with my video card...
[10:45] <[OS]Cazazo> I have removed the driver and rebooted
[10:45] <[OS]Cazazo> so is running on the default of the 12.04
[10:45] <Araneidae> Can you cat the file, or less it?
[10:46] <[OS]Cazazo> Araneidae: dunno... how to I do it?
[10:46] <[OS]Cazazo> how do I do it
[10:46] <Araneidae> You have a command line prompt?  What does `cat /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs` show?  (Return at the end)
[10:47] <[OS]Cazazo> Araneidae: cat: /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs: Input/output error
[10:47] <Araneidae> Ouch ouch ouch
[10:48] <[OS]Cazazo> Araneidae: indeed
[10:48] <Araneidae> Does `dmesg | tail` have anything exciting to say?
[10:49] <Araneidae> Also, what about `ls -l /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs` ?
[10:50] <[OS]Cazazo> Araneidae: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11734 Mar 31  2012 /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs
[10:50] <Araneidae> Fine.  So your shell is working and the file should be readable ... but it isn't
[10:52] <blazemore> [OS]Cazazo: sudo touch /forcefsck
[10:52] <blazemore> then reboot
[10:52] <Araneidae> This looks like broken system territory to me, though it's just possible there are some weird security flags on that file (clutching at straws).  I'd force an fsck on that volume and study dmesg and the logs with trepidation
[10:53] <blazemore> oh apparently you can just do sudo shutdown -rF now
[10:53] <Araneidae> Oh, cool, that's good to know
[10:53] <blazemore> and it'll force a fsck on the next reboot, that's pretty useful
[10:53] <[OS]Cazazo> kk will try no
[10:54] <[OS]Cazazo> now*
[10:54] <Araneidae> best of luck
[10:54] <[OS]Cazazo> ty lol
[10:54] <Araneidae> Get rid of the video driver for the time being...
[10:54] <[OS]Cazazo> blazemore: shutdown: time expected Try `shutdown --help' for more information.
[10:55] <Araneidae> [OS]Cazazo, you need the now on the end, it's part of the command
[10:55] <[OS]Cazazo> kk
[10:57] <LTB30> Hi. I have a big problem with ubuntu :( I installed it under Windows 7 yesterday and it worked very fine (Dual-Boot). Now I wanted to update to Ubuntu 12.10, that took over an hour. I closed the laptop and opened it after an hour, and it was just flickering black. i waited some time, but there was no HDD activity, so i killed it with the power switch. when i now boot ubuntu, everything works til i log in, then i just have a blue screen
[10:57] <denkan> hello, how do I add a custom resulotion in xrandr? need to lower my refresh rate
[10:57] <LTB30> logout only works via ctrl+alt+del
[10:58] <[OS]Cazazo> same thing guys
[10:58] <reisio> denkan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[10:58] <cfhowlett> LTB30, ubuntu gives a blue screen?
[10:58] <denkan> reisio thx
[10:58] <[OS]Cazazo> bash: /etc/bash_completion.d/cvs: line 278: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[10:58] <LTB30> well, not a BSOD, but its just a pure blue screen
[10:59] <blazemore> LTB30: a blue screen? ctrl alt del? doesn't sound much like Ubuntu
[10:59] <LTB30> with nothing on it
[10:59] <cfhowlett> LTB30, pretty sure that's windows going blue ...
[10:59] <LTB30> well, i cant do anything once i logged in
[10:59] <cfhowlett> LTB30, logged in to ubuntu?
[10:59] <LTB30> nope, i choosed ubuntu and it loaded, i logged in under ubuntu and after that i just get a blue screen
[10:59] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|LTB30, sounds like a nomodeset issue.  Best fix?  download the ISO and clean install
[10:59] <LTB30> currently im under windows because nothing is working under ubuntu
[11:00] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/cvs   here is my default file
[11:00] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: or run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install bash-completion       to get the new file from packages
[11:01] <LTB30> can i use the windows installer for ubuntu to do that, ubottu?
[11:01] <cfhowlett> LTB30, oh wait.  this is a windows ubuntu install?  not recommended ....
[11:01] <LTB30> mh :/
[11:02] <LTB30> yeah, i thought so. but i had no USB stick and my DVD burner doesnt work anymore :/
[11:02] <cfhowlett> LTB30, could be that ubuntu fragged could be that windows fragged ubuntu.  That's why a windows/wubi install is not recommended.  wubi is for TESTING not for long term installation.
[11:02] <LTB30> oh, ok.
[11:03] <LTB30> well, i havent booted to windows in the meantime
[11:03] <cfhowlett> LTB30, dual boot is what you're after.  quite easy to set up win7/ubuntu dual.  get a USB.  They're cheap.  torrent the ISO ubuntu, make a stick and install.
[11:03] <LTB30> i think it wasnt a good idea to close the laptop while updating
[11:03] <cfhowlett> LTB30, I wasn't going to say anything, but ... yeah.
[11:03] <LTB30> will it just intall over the old ubuntu installation?
[11:04] <LTB30> yeah, i didnt think of that it may turn into sleep mod or something like that, turned it off on windows ;)
[11:04] <cfhowlett> LTB30, again, the windows/wubi method is NOT the way to go.   a proper dual boot creates an ubuntu partition wholly separate from windows.
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|LTB30,
[11:04] <Gorgoroth> hi
[11:04] <Gorgoroth> i have a linux question
[11:04] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, greetings
[11:04] <Gorgoroth> 14. whichman uses ______ matching algorithm
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> a. Reinforcement Learning
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> b. Probabilistic
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> c. Fuzzy
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> d. Genetic
[11:05] <FloodBot1> Gorgoroth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <blazemore> Is this an assignment, Gorgoroth ?
[11:05] <DJones> Gorgoroth: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> no
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, this is not an ubuntu question ...
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> its a revision question for my test tomorrow
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> well it is
[11:05] <blazemore> It is an assignment obviously, why are you presenting us with multiple choices
[11:05] <gry> 'whichman'?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !topic|Gorgoroth,
[11:05] <Gorgoroth> it is not an assignment
[11:05] <blazemore> !info whichman
[11:06] <Gorgoroth> it is part of a revision quiz for a test tomorrow
[11:06] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: I assume you already read the manpage?
[11:06] <Gorgoroth> what
[11:06] <gry> Gorgoroth: Read the book your tutor gave you, it will have the information on what to use to approach the test (such as, manpages).
[11:06] <blazemore> man whichman
[11:06] <Gorgoroth> just tell me the answer
[11:06] <DJones> Gorgoroth: We can't help you with revision/tests, this channel is for support issues
[11:06] <Gorgoroth> where should i go then
[11:06] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: You have a test on Linux tomorrow, and you don't know what a man page is?
[11:07] <Gorgoroth> i know the man command
[11:07] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: Start by reading "man whichman"
[11:07] <Gorgoroth> not the whichman command
[11:07] <LTB30> @ ubottu: will i have anything to keep in mind when i have already an ubuntu installation on my HDD?
[11:07] <gry> Gorgoroth: As I said, please, read the book your tutor gave you, it will have the information on what to use to approach the test (such as, manpages). I don't think asking for help in this way is wise in long-term.
[11:07] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, man whichman
[11:07] <Gorgoroth> just tell me ffs
[11:07] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, #linux
[11:07] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: We don't know
[11:07] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: We'd only look it up
[11:07] <Gorgoroth> its moderated
[11:07] <blazemore> Gorgoroth: Which you could do, so we resent you asking it here
[11:08] <gry> Gorgoroth: We don't all use the tool. We can read its manpage, but I suspect it's not quite a support issue, and we don't want to hurt your career. Learning is for making yourself familiar with the subject, not for getting good marks.
[11:08] <Gorgoroth> lol
[11:08] <Gorgoroth> telling me what a command is is hurting my career?
[11:08] <gry> Gorgoroth: Yes.
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> im not asking you to do the whole test for me
[11:09] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, dude.  System Admin's in training do their own research.
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> ooops
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> yeah
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> thats what i am doing here
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> researching
[11:09] <Gorgoroth> by asking uz
[11:09] <FloodBot1> Gorgoroth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <denkan> hm... when I add a new mode in xrandr using "xrandr --addmode 2560x1440" nothing happens. Am I doing wrong?
[11:10] <jrib> Gorgoroth: this isn't an ubuntu support question.  This channel is for ubuntu support questions, not homework help.  Let's move on.
[11:10] <gry> Gorgoroth: Us doing homework for you will inevitably make you less familiar with subject, and hurt your learning, hence hurt your career. You got kicked once, wih a 'This is not a channel for doing your homework/revision' message — this was a warning. To continue using the channel, please switch topic.
[11:10] <cfhowlett> Gorgoroth, no you're just being lazy.  Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic to continue the discussion.
[11:10] <Gorgoroth> sorrmy guess is the anwer is fuzzy
[11:10] <gry> Ok. Apologies accepted.
[11:10] <Gorgoroth> i already attempted to research
[11:11] <Gorgoroth> and came up with 'fuzzy'
[11:11] <Gorgoroth> am i correct?
[11:11] <gry> Ok. I can't say.
[11:11] <Shashankg> I installed ubuntu 13.04,  can't change screen birghtness( using brightness keys or brghtness and lock. It is set to maximum. Laptop-dell xps.
[11:11] <denkan> install synaptics?
[11:12] <blazemore> Hey Shashankg take a look at the top answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/142017/brightness-keys-f4-and-f5-not-working-on-dell-xps-15-6-laptop
[11:14] <LTB30> can anyone tell me if i have to keep anything in mind when i want to install ubuntu over an already existing (but corrputed) ubuntu? any everything as dual-boot with windows 7?
[11:14] <LTB30> *and
[11:15] <cfhowlett> LTB30, install dual boot means you are NOT install to the corrupted wubi.  once you have your dual set up, delete the windows ubuntu and for forth and conquer
[11:15] <LTB30> how do i uninstall it?
[11:16] <LTB30> when i cannot enter ubuntu?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> LTB30, delete the partition via windows
[11:16] <LTB30> i cannot delete it because theres a lot of data on this partition
[11:16] <cfhowlett> LTB30, it'll show up as "wubi" or some such name.
[11:17] <cfhowlett> LTB30, ah well that's different.  and you want to save this stuff?
[11:17] <LTB30> can't i use uninstall wubi.exe under D:\ubuntu ?
[11:17] <dat789> hello! I'm running 12.04 and did an update yesterday. Today I noticed that I cannot scroll up/down using the middle scroll wheel on my mouse anymore. Rather, it will show me the history of last entered commands in the command line (like using the up/down arrows on keyboard). Why is this? How to correct it?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> LTB30, yep
[11:17] <LTB30> yeah, D is my pratition with all my data, C is all my programs
[11:17] <LTB30> ok, i think that would be the easiest way
[11:17] <LTB30> isnt it?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> LTB30, once you're dual booting ubuntu, you might be able to browse to your data and save it.
[11:18] <LTB30> i can access all files under windows
[11:18] <cfhowlett> LTB30, even you buntu data?
[11:19] <LTB30> im not sure, but a i only used it some minutes (i just pressed update and entered my WLAN key^^) so i can live with loosing that data
[11:19] <LTB30> btw, why does a ubuntu install last only 10 minutes, but couple of hours to update from 12.04 to 12.10?
[11:19] <dat789> hello! I'm running 12.04 and did an update yesterday. Today I noticed that I cannot scroll up/down using the middle scroll wheel on my mouse anymore. Rather, it will show me the history of last entered commands in the command line (like using the up/down arrows on keyboard). Why is this? How to correct it?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> LTB30, update is only working on the current version.  upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 installs a whole new version.
[11:20] <LTB30> ehm
[11:20] <blazemore> LTB30: It has to download all the packages
[11:20] <LTB30> downloading took 10 minutes
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm.
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> dat789:  it shows my commands  in my irc clients. but scrolls in my bash terminal.  Tried it with differnt terminal apps?
[11:21] <cfhowlett> LTB30, installing ubuntu generally takes around 20 - 45 minutes depending on your system specs.
[11:21] <LTB30> mh, i just ran uninstall-wubi.exe. took only 2 sec, but the folder is away
[11:21] <LTB30> i will reboot to see if its still aviabile to boot under. if its still aviable as boot-selection, ill rejoin this chanel.
[11:22] <LTB30> thank you very much for your kind help! :)
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> wubi should be uninstallable under the windows add/remove apps stuff.
[11:25] <shashankg_> blazemore: : I tried what the link said, but still nothing is happening, only one thing changed. when I booted, my brightness was set to low, once I pressed the birghtess key, I became max and I can't change it.
[11:26] <rebar> I dont get this I am trying to add my custom resulotion I have setup in xrandr using "--addmode <output> <name>" if my monitor is connected to "DVI-I-2" shouldn't it be like this then? "xrandr --addmode DVI-I-2 2560x1440_60.00" please help"
[11:27] <dat789> Dr_Willis: no, i haven't tried it with different terminal apps. I've only been using Ubuntu's terminal
[11:28] <shashankg_> blazemore: I tried what the link said, but still nothing is happening, only one thing changed. when I booted, my brightness was set to low, once I pressed the birghtess key, I became max and I can't change it.
[11:30] <dik> hi i am getting this error
[11:30] <dik> Use of uninitialized value $includedir in concatenation (.) or string at (eval 9) line 1.
[11:30] <dik> is there any expert who can solve this problem
[11:34] <somsip> dik: PHP?
[11:34] <Xentinel> I'm trying to use a bluetooth mouse with Ubuntu, but after like five minutes of inactivity, the mouse powers down and then it won't reconnect
[11:37] <dik> i am building mod_selinux
[11:37] <rebar> -
[11:37] <shashankg_> I installed ubuntu 13.04, I can't change my screen brightness, I tried the  top answe here http://askubuntu.com/questions/142017/brightness-keys-f4-and-f5-not-working-on-dell-xps-15-6-laptop. still nothing happened.
[11:37] <somsip> !details | dik
[11:38] <rebar> I dont get this I am trying to add my custom resulotion I have setup in xrandr using "--addmode <output> <name>" if my monitor is connected to "DVI-I-2" shouldn't it be like this then? "xrandr --addmode DVI-I-2 2560x1440_60.00"
[11:41] <dik>  here i am compiling mod_selinux for ubuntu from source code.
[11:41] <dik> when i am doing 'make' at the first line of output it is comming
[11:41] <somsip> dik: compiling from source isn't really supported here. Why are you not installing from the repo?
[11:42] <Kusuma_suresh> HI
[11:42] <Kusuma_suresh> How to renewal ssl certificate on apache server
[11:42] <Kusuma_suresh> downloaded all the three certificates from godaddy
[11:43] <Kusuma_suresh> and replaced it on server
[11:43] <Kusuma_suresh> and restarted the apache
[11:43] <Kusuma_suresh> but not working
[11:43] <Kusuma_suresh> it is showing old certificate only
[11:43] <Kusuma_suresh> please help to resolve the isse
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> Kusuma_suresh  spare the enter key, please
[11:43] <ActionPa1snip> Kusuma_suresh: you need to generate the first bit first, the code you have is the old one. Or did you generate the new code on the godaddy website?
[11:44] <larsjaa> rebar: have you tried to quote
[11:44] <dik> it is not available in repo
[11:44] <somsip> dik: then you need to contact whoever supplies the source for helpo
[11:45] <ActionPa1snip> Kusuma_suresh: if you just go to the site and grab the code it will be the old code, you need to generate the first part on your server then put it in the godaddy service
[11:45] <dik> i downloaded it from fedora site
[11:46] <somsip> dik: I doubt you will get much help here about it, wherever you got it from
[11:48] <Kusuma_suresh> ActionPa1snip: actually our team has send old key to godaddy
[11:48] <Kusuma_suresh> then they provided certificates
[11:48] <Kusuma_suresh> those certificates we copied into server and restarted the service
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> Kusuma_suresh: the key needs regenerating each time you renew
[11:52] <Kusuma_suresh> may i know what is the command to regenerate the key
[11:52] <ActionPa1snip> Kusuma_suresh: there are guides online. I would just be websearching as you can
[11:53] <Kusuma_suresh> ok thanks
[11:54] <aric_> hi
[11:54] <ltb30> hi there, once again ;) i have a question: i downloaded ubuntu 13.04 as ISO file, burned it with Nero as Image and inserted it into my computer, but it didnt booted (although the optical drive was selected as first boot). But the DVD boots under another PC. Any advice (except using USB for the lack of a USB stick)?
[11:54] <aric_> pp
[11:55] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: what happens when you try to boot the CD?
[11:55] <ltb30> it says "insert a proper boot media and press a key"
[11:56] <ActionPa1snip> ltb30: do other CDs boot ok?
[11:56] <aric_> using your burned CD ,try to boot another computer
[11:56] <ltb30> after the optical drive worked a bit
[11:56] <ltb30> the DVD is working under another PC
[11:56] <ltb30> im not sure if other boot cds worked. i know that there was a time when i could boot ubuntu from DVD
[11:56] <aric_> clean your optical header
[11:57] <ltb30> already done that
[11:57] <aric_> maybe ur computer is laptop
[11:57] <ltb30> yes it is :P
[11:57] <ltb30> oh, i see. i don't see anything under windows at all
[11:58] <ltb30> maybe my optical drive has probles with DVD+R
[11:58] <aric_> ur DVD driver maybe old and favor some disks
[11:59] <aric_> some of the disk can't work properly
[12:01] <aric_> copy ur ubuntu's iso file to hard disk, try to install it from hard disk. boot live cd by grub
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> you can set up a USB flash to boot the iso file using grub2 ;)
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> also what files are on the cd?
[12:03] <ltb30> ubuntu 13.04
[12:03] <ltb30> well, i asked my neighbour if he had a USB stick, happily he had 2 GB stick. i now will create a bootable USB stick, that works
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> windows should be showing quite a bit of differnt files on the cd.
[12:03] <ltb30> thank you anyway for your help, really appreciate it :)
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> pendrivelinux web site has tools for making usb flash drives to install from
[12:05] <ltb30> i already did that couple of times, works really nice
[12:06] <ltb30> bye :)