[03:39] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-appfinder 4.13.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-appfinder-4-13-1-released-tp51625.html (by André Miranda)


[02:53] <micahg> what's that initial boot thingy called that goes back and forth with the logo?
[02:56] <hggdh> usplash/xsplash
[03:00] <arand> Are the reomte bug watcher for bugzilla supposed to ste status automatically, and should I set a "fix released" on the upstream for Bug #246177 ?
[03:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 246177 in gnumeric "gnumeric help on plot log scale unclear" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246177
[03:00] <arand> *Is *remote *set
[03:01] <hggdh> arand, they should auto-update. Sometimes it fails, though.
[03:01] <hggdh> give it a day; if still not updated, do it yourself.
[03:01] <hggdh> arand, in this case you may also want to ask at #launchpad for what happened
[03:02] <micahg> it should say on the bug when the last update was
[03:02] <micahg> Launchpad couldn't import bug #563275 from GNOME Bug Tracker.
[03:03] <arand> upstream update was four weeks ago, as noted.
[03:03] <micahg> check in #launchpad about a b.g.o problem
[03:03] <arand> b.g.o ?
[03:04] <hggdh> hum. Yes, b.g.o updated bugzilla some time ago (recent), so there might still be some quirks
[03:04] <micahg> bugzilla.gnome.org
[03:04] <hggdh> bugzilla.gnome.org
[03:04] <hggdh> :-)
[03:04] <arand> ah :)
[03:11] <micahg> hggdh: 15 minutes with Karmic Alpha 5 and 3 new bugs :)
[03:13] <hggdh> yeeeeh
[03:18] <micahg> That's why I wait for beta to upgrade :)
[03:23] <hggdh> me, I like to suffer, and have been running karmic since the beginning
[03:23]  * micahg uses Ubuntu for work
[03:23]  * hggdh also
[03:23] <micahg> needs 99%+ working
[03:24] <hggdh> well, I also need it -- this is my official work instrument. But, being careful, I have never had an issue that put me down for more than one hour
[03:25] <hggdh> so, when I do an update, I am very, very carefull on what I am updating
[06:12] <dholbach> good morning
[06:13] <aboSamoor> good morning
[06:14] <dholbach> hi aboSamoor
[06:17] <aboSamoor> Hi, dholbach
[06:17] <metalf8801> has anyone else tried to install Ubuntu 9.10 alpha 5 in virtualbox and gotten an error saying that they need to run fsck manually?
[06:18] <aboSamoor> I want to ask how can I debug pulseaudio/alsa efficiently ?
[06:18] <metalf8801> I'm not asking for help I got it working
[06:18] <aboSamoor> maybe not debug as make good bug reports, I have three issues regarding pulseaudio/alsa
[06:18] <metalf8801> I'm just wondering if it happened to anyone else
[06:45] <Hobbsee> metalf8801: yeah, it's been recorded in the iso testing tracker
[06:45] <Hobbsee> (and there is a bug)
[06:48] <metalf8801> ok good can you give me link?
[07:16] <Hobbsee> metalf8801: not offhand.  if you google ubuntu isotracker and look at the ubuntu results, it should be there
[07:18] <metalf8801> yeah I did I didn't see any thing about fsck
[07:21] <Hobbsee> metalf8801: is that https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clock-setup/+bug/423247 ?
[07:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 423247 in clock-setup "Superblock last mount times cause fsck to fail" [High,Fix released]
[07:21] <metalf8801> thank you
[07:22] <Hobbsee> you're welcome
[13:10] <mac_v> seb128: any ideas/suggestions about this bug> Bug #417824 , seems like a devkit bug , does any more info need to be provided... its messing up other components which try to invoke the power state :(
[13:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 417824 in gnome-panel "Gnome-panel loads very late after session start" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417824
[13:11] <seb128> mac_v, not idea, seems a gnome-power-manager issue, try asking chrisccoulson or pitti on #ubuntu-desktop rather
[13:12] <mac_v> ok ... thanks :)
[14:51] <qense> edlik: this channel is for discussing bugs, if you need support I'd suggest you to go to the channel #ubuntu or to #ubuntu+1 for the (unstable) development version.
[16:09] <qense> What to do with bug #342224 ? Shall I point to reporter at the SRU guidelines, or should the bug be closed because it doesn't follow the guidelines for requesting an upgrade>
[16:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 342224 in libmtp "Please backport libmtp 0.3.6 in Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/342224
[16:09] <qense> s/>/?
[16:24] <hggdh> qense: please point the reporter to the SRU guidelines. It looks more like he does not know about them
[16:24] <qense> ok
[16:25] <qense> thanks
[16:25] <hggdh> qense: oh, and welcome back :-)
[16:25] <qense> thanks!
[16:44] <dholbach> Ubuntu Developer Week - last day, starting in 16 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[17:47] <qense> There was a post on Ubuntu Planet lately containing a nicely done infographic pointing us at a way of adding bug links to Bugzilla bug reports. I can't find that box on GNOME Bugzilla. Did they disable it, or can you only do it when reporting a bug?
[17:51] <pedro_> qense, you mean the box of the "add bug urls:"  ?
[17:52] <qense> probably
[17:52] <pedro_> qense, i can see it here without any issues
[17:52] <qense> it was the infographic with those screaming MS Paint like additions ;)
[17:52] <pedro_> just under the "CC list"
[17:52] <pedro_> heh
[17:52] <qense> ah, there
[17:52] <qense> thanks!
[17:53] <pedro_> you're welcome
[17:53] <pedro_> here is the post btw: http://castrojo.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/gnome-bugzilla-update/
[18:44] <qense> Is there someone who can help me with bug #410763 ? I don't know enough about stack traces to say what caused the freezes in Rhythmbox and Banshee during playback, although I suspect GStreamer.
[18:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 410763 in banshee "[karmic] Banshee freeze after some song playback" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/410763
[18:47] <hggdh>  qense, you mean the last backtrace (last comment)?
[18:48] <qense> yes, although that contains a lot of nothing
[18:48] <hggdh> yes, it is very incomplete
[18:48] <hggdh> it seems the reporter did not install the necessary dbgsyms
[18:49] <qense> although the second latest also is the right one, at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30425942/banshee-thread.log
[18:49] <qense> I forgot that
[18:49] <qense> the latest is about the X freeze iirc
[18:50] <qense> but you say this isn't enough information to properly determine the cause?
[18:52] <hggdh> no, there is not enough data... it seems the reporter had the glib dbgsym, and libc6, but no much more
[18:52] <hggdh> so we do not know who is doing what
[18:52] <hggdh> hum
[18:53] <hggdh> one easy way for the reporter: force another freeze, and then go to the console, and kill -11 banshee. This will create a SIGSEGV, and apport will kick in for it. Then open a new bug, and write the bug # in the current one
[18:54] <hggdh> reason is the apport backoffice retrace will take care of loading the correct dbgsyms, and we will have a kosher trace to work on
[18:55] <qense> ha, that's a nice way of getting the right information
[18:55] <qense> I'll ask him to do so
[18:55] <qense> thanks for your help!
[18:58] <hggdh> qense: welcome
[19:41] <matti> ;]
[20:09] <^arky^> Why is Traiged status entry is disabled for me?
[20:12] <chrisccoulson> ^arky^ - are you a member of ubuntu-bugcontrol?
[20:16] <qense> bdmurray: what do you think of https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2009-August/001533.html ? Do you agree with the changes?
[20:17] <qense> am going offline now, I will read the backlog though, and of course answers to the mailist
[20:19] <^arky^> well, I am trying to apply for it , so I need to mention few bugs for question 5
[20:52] <micahg> ogasawara: about bug 424086
[20:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 424086 in linux "if /boot is full, cannot remove older kernels while installing new ones" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/424086
[20:52] <micahg> the problem might be in grub
[20:52] <micahg> but I think it tries to rebuild an image even when removing
[20:53] <micahg> I wasn't sure it a script in thelinux package was controlling it though
[20:53] <ogasawara> micahg: how were you trying to install?  apt-get install
[20:53] <ogasawara> ?
[20:53] <micahg> I was using aptitude
[20:53] <micahg> I installed 2.6.28-15
[20:53] <micahg> it failed
[20:53] <micahg> due to space
[20:53] <micahg> I tried removing 2.6.28-11
[20:54] <micahg> it failed since it couldn't rebuild an image in /boot on uninstall
[20:54] <micahg> maybe I should attach the dpkg terminal log
[20:54] <micahg> but I fiigured it was either a pre or post install script in the linux package
[21:08] <BUGabundo> heya
[21:09] <dutchie> what is the best way to report bugs up to debian?
[21:09] <dutchie> reportbug --bts debian ?
[21:10] <BUGabundo> sufre
[21:10] <micahg> ogasawara: what do you think of what I wrote above?
[21:11] <BUGabundo> that helps dutchie
[21:11] <dutchie> was "sufre" supposed to be "sure"?
[21:13] <BUGabundo> sure
[21:13] <BUGabundo> sorry
[21:13] <dutchie> great thanks, just wasn't sure, and don't have a debian box...
[21:14] <BUGabundo> not do I have one here
[21:14] <BUGabundo> ehe
[21:43] <hggdh> pedro_: I added info about the mentorship to GettingInvolved
[21:43] <pedro_> hggdh, great, thanks
[21:44] <hggdh> will do more as I have time ;-)
[21:49]  * mac_v doesnt understand "Offer mentorship" :(
[22:00]  * ^arky^ don't understand 'offer mentorship' either
[22:00]  * micahg meant to help with that...
[23:00] <eltoozero> Can someone perhaps answer a bug etiquette question?
[23:04] <BUGabundo> eltoozero: bug id?
[23:06] <eltoozero> #418703
[23:07] <eltoozero> Would I be a bad person for uploading files to satisfy bug request if I've got the same hardware and I'm experiencing the same bug?
[23:07] <eltoozero> I don't have a Dell Mini 9, but I've got the GMA 950 and Intel 945gme chipset...
[23:10] <BUGabundo> bug 418703
[23:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 418703 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Busy mouse cursor flickers like mad" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/418703
[23:10] <BUGabundo> don't think you would
[23:10] <BUGabundo> feel free to help
[23:11] <BUGabundo> OTOH I refuse to accept packages that I don't have the source, or control the way they have been build
[23:13] <bdmurray> eltoozero: since this is hardware specific reporting a new bug is best.  It is much easier to consolidate bugs than separate them.
[23:17] <eltoozero> bdmurray, our hardware is the same, just in different boxes
[23:18] <eltoozero> Dell mini 9 also runs a GMA 950 and i945.
[23:19] <eltoozero> I ask because I've got the same hardware, just not specifically the Dell.
[23:19] <bdmurray> eltoozero: well, if you are positive it is the same video card then it'll likely be fine.  However, you might end up needing to rereport if they aren't the same.
[23:21] <eltoozero> bdmurray, it's always a judgment call, if the spec didn't match I would have indeed made a new bug.
[23:21] <eltoozero> Thanks people!


[04:56] <Kilos> morning all
[06:57] <CraigZim> Morning Kilos , how are you?
[07:07] <Kilos> hi CraigZim ok ty and you?
[07:10] <CraigZim> Good thanks Kilos
[07:26] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[07:32] <magespawn> good morning all
[07:46] <pavlushka> good morning magespawn
[08:24] <magespawn> brb
[10:18] <magespawn> back again


[01:39] <Unit193> zz_Htbrdd: Please don't use away nicks.
[01:59] <jaz> Hi. I'm kinda a linux newbie and I'm installing xubuntu atm, if i wanted to have separate partitions of /home/ and st uff, i'd partition my hdd and select the mount point for each one as a different so i'd have one partition as / for a mount point, another as /home/, etc right?
[02:16] <jaz> ah well, i assume that's what i'm suppose to do if i wanted a seperate partition for /home/ so i went ahead and did it
[02:16] <jaz> hope it works :P
[03:09] <reborn> hi
[03:13] <Yankees52> !ops
[03:13] <Yankees52> niggas
[03:42] <ball> Is there software for Xubuntu that can talk to a Palm PDA, perhaps send it files?
[03:43] <Unit193> Last I looked, not well.  You can get a package list that might with the  "palm pilot" search key.
[03:45] <ball> Hmm... let's try pilot-link
[03:47] <ball> Hmm... looks as though that may be for the older serial-port ones.
[03:47]  * ball experiments
[05:48] <NJD89> Is Xubuntu less taxing on the computer than regular Ubuntu?
[05:51] <baizon> NJD89: yes
[05:51] <baizon> it is more primitive :)
[06:13] <baizon> NJD89: what hardware do you got?
[06:26] <NJD89> baizon, My apologies. I didn't realize that somebody had responded. It's a 1.7Ghz Centrino with 2GB of RAM and a low-end Intel intregregrated graphics. I forgot which model.
[06:26] <baizon> ok :)
[06:27] <NJD89> How does Lubuntu compare? I just heard of that one.
[06:28] <baizon> lubuntu is a lightweight DE
[06:28] <baizon> but imo it doesnt have much features too
[06:29] <NJD89> I use to run Gentoo "back in the day", but I'd much rather have something that's simplistic and ready to go. Just tired of having this older laptop chug along with Vista and I don't feel like going back to XP.
[06:29] <baizon> with xfce you get  a full desktop
[06:29] <baizon> yes, i know what you mean :)
[06:29] <baizon> i like just to install it and go
[06:29] <baizon> not first configure and compile for hours
[06:29] <NJD89> So Xubuntu would probably be the better choice then. I want something lightweight, but not where it takes away from a decent desktop.
[06:31] <Unit193> You could try a live usb/cd of both and see what one you like best, and what works best for you.
[06:31] <NJD89> Exactly. It was fun to tinker with, but I find it to be a waste of time unless you're idea of living life is spending it in a void of trivial commands with compilations and configurations. Haha
[06:31] <baizon> thats a good idea
[06:32] <baizon> test both and then choose :)
[06:32] <NJD89> I've used XFCE fairly often some years back, but I've never heard of LXDE until now. Perhaps I will try the live cd as suggested.
[06:33] <baizon> for me LXDE is too simple
[06:33] <baizon> some desktop features are missing that i use
[06:33] <baizon> like the panel goodies
[06:33] <NJD89> Yeah, the screenshots are looking pretty basic.
[06:34] <NJD89> This laptop may be old, but it's not THAT old. Haha
[06:41] <baizon> :)
[08:38] <xubuntu335> Hi my friend
[08:39] <xubuntu335> Do you speak french, please ?
[09:52] <olbi> where are files .mo?
[09:52] <olbi> i forgot it :P
[09:55] <hobgoblin> all over the place - locate *.mo
[10:42] <SandJ> What is the default email program for Xubuntu 12.04?     I meant GUI email programs.  I assume T-bird is Thunderbird, yes?
[10:47] <SandJ> There is no mailx in the Ubuntu Software Centre.
[12:38] <gabx666> Hello. I dual boot my box Arch/Xubuntu. I am doing a fresh install of Xubuntu 12.04. GRUB2 is already configured on the Arch side, and I do not want install again any bootloader with Xubuntu 12.04. It seems the installer won't let me not installing a bootloader
[12:53] <cousteau> double-clicking a desktop folder uses Thunar even though I've set Nautilus as the default file viewer
[12:53] <ochosi> cousteau: you probably would have to let nautilus manage the desktop
[12:54] <cousteau> ochosi, but Thunar doesn't do anything with the desktop, right?  the desktop is a separate thing that just calls Thunar when opening a directory
[12:55] <cousteau> or at least I thought that in XFCE desktop and file manager were separated
[12:55] <ochosi> yes they are
[12:55] <ochosi> xfdesktop is usually managing the desktop
[12:55] <ochosi> but it's a rather old piece of xfce
[12:55] <ochosi> that's why they wanted to rewrite it
[12:55] <cousteau> so it's xfdesktop the one that opens Thunar
[12:55] <ochosi> possibly it's hardwired to thunar
[12:55] <ochosi> but i dunno, i'm just speculating
[12:55] <ochosi> check git.xfce.org to be sure ;)
[12:56] <cousteau> (don't tell me about hardwiring; I've actually been doing that all this morning)
[12:56] <ochosi> hehe
[13:05] <cousteau> well, this would require to be considered.  I thought thunar was totally optional (which is nice, so that I can use whichever file browser I like)
[13:12]  * cousteau is trying to read the xfdesktop sources to find the thunar dependency
[13:32] <recon69_lap> tring to get a microSD card to work but I cant find how to access it after putting it in the card reader?
[13:37] <cousteau> doesn't it get automatically mounted?
[13:37] <cousteau> or appear in the desktop?
[13:37] <cousteau> or in "Computer", or in /media?
[13:38] <cousteau> if so, maybe you need to modify the grub  (I had this problem in LXDE back in the day; maybe it's the same one)
[13:39] <recon69_lap> cousteau: no, no  indication of anything happening, there is no "Computer" in xubuntu as far as i can find. I'v tried both in the card reader and through a usb device. no sign of it mounting
[13:40] <xubuntu979> how can I make if i've a keyboard usb & mouse...... theirs functions are interrupt
[13:40] <cousteau> recon69_lap, well, in Thunar, Ctrl-L and type /media
[13:41] <xubuntu979> excuse me, i had xubuntu 12.04 on hol perntium 4 ram 536
[13:41] <cousteau> xubuntu979, that doesn't make sense, USB keyboard + mouse should work fine as 2 separate devices
[13:41] <cousteau> (_should_)
[13:44] <xubuntu979> not for me cousteau my xubuntu lost this devices during i work.....i don't know why?
[13:45] <recon69_lap> brb, reboot :)
[13:47] <cousteau> xubuntu979, no idea
[13:47] <cousteau> what does lsusb say?
[13:47] <xubuntu979> hao could i install in xubuntu keyboard + mouse usb stably
[13:48] <xubuntu979> how could i install in xubuntu keyboard + mouse usb stably?
[13:51] <recon69_lap> hmm, guess I'll have to try in a windows machine and see if the SD card is working, getting no indication that it recognizes it ;(
[13:53] <cousteau> recon69_lap, wait, I'll look for the grub thing
[13:55] <cousteau> ok, in /etc/default/grub I had to add "pciehp.pciehp_force=1" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[13:55] <cousteau> so it was changed from   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"   to   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pciehp.pciehp_force=1"
[13:56] <cousteau> then I did   sudo update-grub   and after rebooting, SD cards were plug and play
[13:58] <recon69_lap> cousteau: I'll reboot and see if it works
[14:01] <recon69_lap> cousteau: what was the update command again?
[14:01] <cousteau> sudo update-grub
[14:02] <cousteau> after editing /etc/default/grub
[14:02] <cousteau> (you need permissions to do that)   gksudo leafpad /etc/default/grub
[14:02] <recon69_lap> right, reboot again and see
[14:03] <cousteau> so many reboots can't be good...
[14:07] <recon69_lap> cousteau: no joy, sd card not showing as far as i can see. works in phone. I'll have to try again later, thx for the help
[14:07] <cousteau> ouch...  that was my last (and only) bullet
[14:08] <cousteau> maybe...  what filesystem is it?
[14:08] <cousteau> sudo fdisk -l    # may help
[14:08] <recon69_lap> cousteau: I would assume some sort of FAT, cant remember that far back
[14:09] <recon69_lap> but it's not mounting at all, so probably not the format
[14:10] <recon69_lap> anyway, I'll have to try again later.
[14:10] <recon69_lap> bye
[15:42] <xubuntu884> Hello
[15:43] <xubuntu884> I'm trying Xubuntu through a live usb, and I'm asked to enter the login and the assword. What should I enter ?
[16:06] <reborn> you still there?
[16:09] <xubuntu884> @reborn : who ?
[16:09] <reborn> @xubuntu884, you need help?
[16:13] <xubuntu884> @reborn : yes, I need help.
[16:13] <xubuntu884> @reborn : I'm trying a Xubuntu through la live usb
[16:14] <xubuntu884> @reborn : I get a screen prompting for a login/pwd
[16:14] <xubuntu884> I've tried ubuntu/xubuntu/"nothing"/root/admin bit nothing's working
[16:14] <xubuntu884> any ideas ?
[16:17] <hobgoblin> if you are being asked for the password in the livecd there is something wrong with it
[16:18] <xubuntu884> okay
[16:18] <reborn> he use live usb.
[16:19] <xubuntu884> I'm using a live usb, but I installed Xubuntu on a 1GB memory stick
[16:19] <xubuntu884> maybe it's too small ?
[16:20] <reborn> no, it seem perfect to me, and which you created a usb booting?
[16:22] <xubuntu884> @reborn : what's the question ? I created the live usb with "unetbootin"
[16:22] <hobgoblin> you need to check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded
[16:23] <hobgoblin> you shouldn't be asked a password
[16:23] <reborn> is this your first time to use linux? Just curious.
[16:23] <SandJ> Odd.  Two days ago someone else asked about the live USB sking for a username and password.  That wasn't you too, was it, xubuntu884?
[16:23] <hobgoblin> xubuntu884: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[16:24] <xubuntu884> @hobgoblin : okay I'm going to check the md5sum
[16:24] <recon69_lap> what with dialogs in xubuntu, I try do a save as in gimp and the dialog is unusable because it does not fit on screen!!!!
[16:25] <xubuntu884> @reborn : I'm running Ubuntu since a while now, why ? :)
[16:25] <hobgoblin> I would - if that's ok then reboot and check the integrity from the menu - but I can't see that being a problem
[16:25] <hobgoblin> recon69_lap: click +alt
[16:25] <xubuntu884> @SandJ : That wasn't me
[16:26] <reborn> well, unetbooting is not my favorite, so i prefer startup disk creator
[16:26] <hobgoblin> recon69_lap: left click +alt then you can grab and move it so you can maximise or whatever you need
[16:27] <recon69_lap> hobgoblin: thx, that will work :)
[16:28] <hobgoblin> :)
[16:35] <xubuntu884> I checked the integrity of my Xubuntu iso, it is OK
[16:37] <xubuntu884> I'm now checking the integrity from the menu
[16:37] <xubuntu884> "error found in 1 file !"
[16:38] <xubuntu884> I'm going to re do the live usb with startup disk creator
[16:54] <xubuntu884> I've created another Xubuntu live usb with another usb stick, another iso, and another software...
[16:55] <xubuntu884> ... now it works : no login/pwd ! :)
[16:55] <xubuntu884> thx
[16:56] <reborn> good
[16:59] <xubuntu884> :)
[16:59] <xubuntu884> bye
[16:59] <hobgoblin> cool
[17:39] <jonne> i installed the ubuntu indicator plugin and put it in my panel, but it shows (part of) the global menu too
[17:39] <jonne> is there a way i can turn it off?
[17:40] <GridCube> ?
[17:40] <GridCube> explain
[17:40] <baizon> jonne: remove the appmenu pkg
[17:40] <hobgoblin> jonne: do you still have a whole bunch of different environments installed
[17:41] <malv> how many developers work on Xubuntu
[17:41] <jonne> tnx baizon
[17:41] <jonne> i overlooked that, apparently
[17:41] <malv> It doesn't seem like there is that many because this major usability bug is still not resolved.
[17:41] <Unit193> Purge the package you installed, then sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends $ubuntuindicatorplugin-packagename-here
[17:41] <baizon> malv: which one?
[17:42] <malv> the gtk3 move bug
[17:42] <baizon> malv: did you wrote a bug report?
[17:42] <malv> all gtk3 apps jump around the screen when you click on them
[17:42] <malv> yea
[17:42] <jonne> i had uninstalled everything related to appmenu, but then installed indicater-plugin using this guide
[17:42] <jonne> http://xflinux.blogspot.be/2011/01/get-ubuntu-like-indicator-applets-and.html
[17:42] <malv> it has activity on it but its been sitting there for weeks
[17:43] <baizon> malv: i dont have that bug? can you record a video please and post it?
[17:43] <recon69_lap> can't find my wallet :(
[17:43] <baizon> jonne: dont install it, its broken
[17:43] <baizon> jonne: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-appmenu-plugin/+bug/922615
[17:44] <malv> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1001936
[17:44] <baizon> that needs to be fixed
[17:44] <jonne> second line ccontained an appmenu package, and i overlooked that
[17:44] <malv> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir2IDxFKBFA youtube video of the bug
[17:44] <malv> window jumps to the bottom right of the screen
[17:44] <jonne> baizon, it seems to work for me :/
[17:44] <malv> makes using gtk3 apps very aggrivating
[17:44] <baizon> no it wont work right
[17:45] <hobgoblin> malv: oh - I got that - wondered what it was - though I did not have it prior to installing xfce 4.10
[17:45] <jonne> the order of the icons is wrong, but it works
[17:45] <malv> be sure to say the bug affects you
[17:45] <malv> it occurs on every system ive seen
[17:45] <baizon> hmm, i never had such a bug
[17:45] <jonne> sound menu and everything
[17:45] <hobgoblin> well I didn't have it with vanilla xubuntu - only once I installed the 4.10
[17:45] <baizon> jonne: yes, but it wont work right
[17:45] <malv> try reading more pdfs with evince
[17:46] <malv> you'll notice it when the document you are reading flies across the screen
[17:46] <baizon> hmm i will try that out
[17:47] <malv> basically it seems non-deterministic as far as I can tell
[17:47] <baizon> but imo its a xfce bug, not xubuntu
[17:47] <malv> cant really figure out exactly what triggers it
[17:47] <baizon> malv: have you tried xfce 4.10?
[17:47] <malv> you just have to click around a while
[17:47] <malv> no
[17:47] <baizon> because im using xfce 4.10
[17:47] <malv> are you using 4.10
[17:47] <malv> ok, so it might have been fixed there
[17:47] <malv> post that on launchpad
[17:47] <hobgoblin> baizon: I get it with 4.10 - I didn't before
[17:48] <hobgoblin> or didn't notice it
[17:48] <baizon> hmm
[17:48] <malv> i get it on all machines with a stock xubuntu 12.04 install
[17:48] <malv> tried with amd, nvidia, dual screen, single screen
[17:48] <baizon> sec, testing
[17:49] <malv> havent tried intel
[17:49] <jonne> i think that bug's invalid, as it clearly works on 2 systems I use
[17:49] <malv> you need to click around and do focus switching between windows
[17:50] <malv> eventually it gets triggered after a while with gtk3 apps
[17:50] <hobgoblin> malv: +1 to that last comment
[17:50] <SandJ> malv - I just watched that video - I thought it was me clicking poorly.  I've been getting that on 12.04; don't remember it occurring before I upgraded.
[17:50] <hobgoblin> I've not noticed anything every time the same
[17:51] <SandJ> I use my PC all day and probably get that app-grabbing about once a day.
[17:51] <malv> i get it a lot because I do a lot of PDF switching
[17:51] <hobgoblin> malv thinking about it - I get it most with tbird
[17:52] <malv> tbird isnt gtk3
[17:52] <malv> never seen it with thunderbird
[17:53] <malv> only gtk3 for me. gedit, software center, evince, ect...
[17:56] <baizon> ok back
[17:56] <baizon> tested it for 2 min
[17:56] <baizon> didnt had that bug even once
[17:59] <reborn> hey you guys, where i can find the global menu in command?
[18:00] <baizon> reborn: i dont undestrand your question, sorry :(
[18:00] <reborn> you know global menu like mac?
[18:00] <baizon> yes sir
[18:01] <baizon> reborn: http://gtk-apps.org/content/show.php/OMG+!+XFCE+Global+Menu+%5BPPA+Ready%5D?content=146102
[18:01] <baizon> something like this?
[18:02] <reborn> weird, yesterday, i did went there, and installed, but like a caution to not install.
[18:03] <baizon> reborn: yes, dont install it
[18:03] <reborn> why is that?
[18:03] <baizon> reborn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-appmenu-plugin/+bug/922615
[18:03] <reborn> oh
[18:03] <baizon> yes
[19:06] <Ritchie> hello
[19:06] <knome> hullo
[19:06] <SDX> Hello.
[19:07] <SDX> If I enter "TEMP=$(acpi -t|cut -b 16-17)"°C" && echo $TEMP" into a terminal, I get the temperature of my CPU, but if I try to use it with Genmon I get "TEMP=$(acpi: No such file or directory".
[19:08] <SDX> Does Genmon have a different way of handling &&?
[19:08] <knome> TEMP=`(acpi ..)` ?
[19:09] <xubuntu475pain> hi people. i am facing an unusual issue here, even since 6 years of linux usage, running xubuntu on Acer one 722 netbook, suddenly, freezes, resart, grub says, nothing to loade, placed the xubuntu usb, stuck in the middle, turned off, in few hours got the xubuntu running but no mouse, no usb mouse, and no sound in the pannel, any ideas?
[19:11] <SDX> "TEMP= ..." assigns the output of the next command to the TEMP variable.
[19:11] <SDX> "$(acpi -t|cut -b 16-17)" is the command set to TEMP.
[19:12] <SDX> "'°C'" is the bit I want to append to the output of "acpi -t ..."
[19:12] <SDX> "&& echo $TEMP" prints whatever is stored in TEMP.
[19:12] <SDX> It works perfectly on the terminal, just not in Genmon.
[19:13] <SDX> xubuntu475pain: Is your keyboard a USB keyboard?
[19:14] <astraljava> SDX: How do you enter that to genmon? What's the config file?
[19:14] <Unit193> SDX: Workaround, add it to a file and set the env as bash, then run that file.
[19:15] <SDX> astraljava: I opened Genmon's properties window and entered it there.
[19:15] <astraljava> SDX: I was going to suggest what Unit193 just did.
[19:15] <Unit193> Also, is it using SH?
[19:15] <SDX> Unit193: That's currently what I'm doing.  It works, but I'd rather have it all in Genmon's configuration.
[19:16] <Unit193> bash -c 'TEMP=$(acpi -t|cut -b 16-17)"°C" && echo $TEMP'  ? :P
[19:16] <SDX> No, I didn't preface it with sh.  That's probably the problem.
[19:16] <SDX> Thank you.
[19:17] <Unit193> sh won't handle it, bash will
[19:18] <Unit193> ...I think: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/234/137/5c4.jpg
[19:18] <SDX> "bash: TEMP=$(acpi: No such file or directory"
[19:18] <SDX> Huh.
[19:19] <SDX> Well, it works with a script, even if Genmon is no longer neatly contained in its own configuration files.
[19:20] <Unit193> You forgot -c
[19:21] <SDX> "bash -c TEMP=$(acpi -t|cut -b 16-17)"°C" && echo $TEMP"?
[19:22] <SDX> It's given me a lengthy error that doesn't fit in my panel.
[19:24] <Unit193> Alright, well bash file works. :P
[19:35] <astraljava> Well, it WorksForMe™
[20:17] <churl> Help:  After recent updates, I am unable to login to any window manager or the recovery console.  Screen flashes to bootup text, then black, then back to the login screen.  Guest session works fine
[22:22] <Leafy> Hi, I'm having some problems installing a Xubuntu 12.04 64 bit on an EeePc, am I in the right place ?
[22:25] <Leafy> In fact the main problem is a crash at the end of the install, while doing the "grub install dummy"
[22:27] <Unit193> Ubiquity crashing isn't ever really a good thing, did the desktop work? You could just use the !alternate installer.
[22:27] <Leafy> Anyone here ?
[22:30] <Leafy> Can't take a screenshot as it crash but took a picture : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/20120620001201.jpg/
[22:47] <GridCube> Leafy, as Unit193 said, you could try the alternate installer
[22:48] <GridCube> or get into the live cd and use boot-repair, get it from here https://launchpad.net/boot-repair
[22:48] <GridCube> and try to see if it can install grub
[22:48] <Leafy> Thx, I'll try that
[22:49] <Leafy> Remind me : using the alternate I have to chose the package I want ?
[22:50] <Unit193> Not really.
[22:50] <GridCube> not really
[22:50] <Leafy> Ok, so, what does alternate stand for ?
[22:51] <GridCube> it doesnt load graphical desktop
[22:51] <GridCube> its just text
[22:51] <GridCube> but its the same installation
[22:52] <Leafy> ok, so I can try to install it, and if it works i'll just have to load it after
[22:52] <GridCube> Leafy, try the boot-repair option first
[22:53] <GridCube> its faster, and if it works you dont have to download a new iso :P
[22:55] <Leafy> Gonna try that
[22:57] <Leafy> I was told the problem can be resolved by using acpi=off option
[23:07] <martinphone> are dns something I can change?
[23:07] <martinphone> or just content providers such as web pages?
[23:07] <knome> you're able to change the dns servers you're using.
[23:10] <martinphone> is opendns a joke or does it work?
[23:10] <knome> no idea
[23:16] <Leafy> Thanks for the help, gonna make some cofee and try that :)
[23:19] <xubuntu877> Hello
[23:19] <Unit193> martinphone: Can you explain a bit more?
[23:20] <Unit193> !resolvconf
[23:21] <xubuntu877> yes, I tried to install xubuntu but at the end the installation it just freezes and doesnt do anything
[23:21] <xubuntu877> so im forced to push the power button
[23:22] <xubuntu877> and when I turn it on again it the computer wont move past the the load up screen
[23:45] <martinphone> Unit193, i wont be using opendns, just asked for it due to BT's ban of tpb


[00:26] <Steampunk_Sam> Hey, does anyone know how i may be able to increase the resolution of my kubuntu when viewed over Remote connection? seems to continuously default to 800x600 when i set any resolution, using 20.04.0
[00:26] <Steampunk_Sam> no monitors are connected to the machine, only using remote desktop software
[02:46] <arbir> hello
[02:47] <arbir> is there anyway to automatically switch my graphics to optimize power consumption?
 Assuming a laptop, most power use is manually setup by the user as everyone typically wants different "automatic" settings.
[03:11] <user|3103> Kubuntu can support arm devices like raspberry pi
 yes, check out wimpy install script: https://github.com/wimpysworld/desktopify
 He also covers the script development in rasp. pi sereis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0LWRPqw75g
[08:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:09] <YuxKukMo> good morning to all
[08:13] <YuxKukMo> still can't upgrade to the latest version. i guess that i will have to do a fresh install even if i don't want.
[08:38] <YuxKukMo> anyone here had some problems when upgrading from 18 lts to 20 lts?
[10:59] <nms> hi
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
 how to report a bug to the distro? I am using the firefox version downloaded from their website and the system is not freezing anymore. The problem was with firefox downloaded and installed from the distro
[11:25] <BluesKaj> odd, default FF runs perfectly fine here
 That's a bug that happened on this computer. The other two computers I have are running fine on firefox so 1/3
 all of them with Kubuntu 20.04
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[12:07] <BluesKaj> !spam | @salvaconnome
[12:08] <BluesKaj> :-)
[12:22] <eeos> hi everybody. Anyone who has been able to update from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS automatically?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> automatically ?
[12:24] <eeos> BluesKaj: using do-release-upgrade
[12:24] <eeos> BluesKaj: or do-release-upgrade -c
[12:27] <BluesKaj> check your package manager settings>sources> LTS only releases, and cmd is do-release-upgrade -d for pre-point release versions, or it was the last time I checked
[12:29] <BluesKaj> eeos,^
[12:31] <eeos> BluesKaj: yes, that is already all done .... the point is that we were told that after the 06/08 we would have been able to update to 20.04 directly, and not through -d.
[12:32] <eeos> BluesKaj: unless I misunderstood of course
[12:34] <BluesKaj> eeos, you're correct, my mistake, then just do-release-upgrade should work, but update and upgrade your packages first
[12:35] <eeos> BluesKaj: have already tried, but I keep getting
[12:35] <eeos> BluesKaj: There is no development version of an LTS available
[12:36] <eeos> BluesKaj: which is a very strange message indeed
[12:36] <BluesKaj> eeos, make sure discover sources settings is set to "LTS only"
[12:37] <eeos> BluesKaj: yes, it is
[12:40] <BluesKaj> eeos, trey sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade, then try sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:40] <BluesKaj> try
[12:42] <eeos> BluesKaj: thank you
[12:42] <eeos> BluesKaj: just tried no success
[12:42] <eeos> BluesKaj: 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> ok , run sudo apt dist-upgrade
[12:48] <eeos> BluesKaj: same result
[12:49] <BluesKaj> maybe you already have the point release
[12:49] <BluesKaj> lsb_release -a
[12:52] <BluesKaj> hmm, sudo do-release upgrade should work for LTS only 18.04 to 20.04... this has me stumped
[12:56] <eeos> BluesKaj: no,
[12:56] <eeos> BluesKaj: Description:    Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS
[12:56] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:00] <BluesKaj> seems there's also a problem with ubuntu upgrade path as well
[13:01] <BluesKaj> no LTS upgrade available to some sources, perhaps change your source location?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> eeos,^
[13:05] <eeos> BluesKaj: not sure I understand this last point ....
[13:05] <BluesKaj> eeos, change your software sources in discover to the UK , see if that makes a difference
[13:07] <eeos> BluesKaj: OK
[13:14] <BluesKaj> seems eeos, you may still have to wait a few days, there's nothing wrong with your system
[13:18] <BluesKaj> eeos, "the direct upgrade path" is unavailable at this time according to the gurus over at #ubuntu
[13:19] <eeos> BluesKaj: tried different servers including UK, Italy and Switzerland
[13:20] <eeos> BluesKaj: Oh! I guess that is the cause .... do they know the reason?
[13:20] <BluesKaj> eeos, probly stll being worked on
[13:20] <BluesKaj> not the path, the OS
[13:21] <eeos> BluesKaj: thank you for your help, I will try again tomorrow
[13:21] <BluesKaj> right
[13:26] <eeos> BluesKaj: I am cleaning up the /etc/apt/ as well meanwhile
[13:49] <ent_> ..
[15:40] <elaxer> hi
[16:46] <paolo_> helloo
[16:46] <paolo_> can someone help with dropbox not synch in Kubuntu 18.04
[16:50] <oerheks> paolo_, login the web interface, dropbox allows 3 devices only, maybe this is nr 4.
[16:51] <paolo_> oerheks: nope I have only 3
[16:51] <oerheks> oh, then i have no clue
[16:54] <paolo_> dropbox works well until fews days ago ... now on one fo my 3 device stop to aych and if I launch the app from the menu nothing happed
[16:54] <paolo_> so seems the sych app on one of my device doesn't works
[16:54] <paolo_> and  f course the icon doesn't appers on the bar
[16:56] <paolo_> no way to hace some help?
[17:05] <paolo_> I've tried to remove and re install the app but the first time I start the app I receive a Crash message
[17:05] <paolo_> then I'm no more able to start the app plzz someone can help  me ?
[17:11] <paolo_> ???
[17:22] <paolo_> so ? ?
[17:25] <paolo_> NO One can help me ?
 (Photo, 1280x731) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/fU8TGu0I/file_34534.jpg
 paolo what's up?
[20:40] <jtatria> hello all! I just reinstalled kubuntu 20.04, but selected a minimal install this time and i'm missing the gnome-gtk style module in system-settings. How can i get it back? I tried instlaling kde-config-gtk-style, but apt said it was already installed. What am i missing?
[20:42] <valorie> jtatria: have you upgraded?
[20:42] <valorie> the .1 was released yesterday
 @jtatria, These are the gtk packages I have installed: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Nrvz9SqVpg/
[20:50] <Roey> hi
[20:51] <Roey> why is it that when I run pavucontrol, I just get a dialog saying "establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait..."  ??
 Do you have bt headphone or speakers connected?
[21:00] <jtatria> valorie i did a dist-upgrade after install
[21:01] <valorie> jtatria: suggest `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[21:01] <valorie> that never hurts
[21:02] <valorie> I do it often with up-arrow in the commandline
[21:02] <jtatria> valorie, ok i'll give it a try. brb.
[21:03] <jtatria> DArin
[21:03] <jtatria> DarinMiller, i have the same
[21:03] <jtatria> still no gtk config module in system settings.
[21:04] <jtatria> oh wait
[21:05] <jtatria> they move it to a different place in the new plasma, nevermind, i found it.
[21:05] <valorie> I usually just alt+space and type what I want, such as '`gtk` and choose the appropriate place to jump to
[21:05] <valorie> krunner is the best
[21:06] <jtatria> valorie yes, that use to work before, because the gtk config module was a system settings module unde application style. but now it appears as a menu entry in that module, so its not indexed by either krunner or the system setting search
[21:06] <valorie> hmmm
[21:07] <valorie> that doesn't sound right
[21:07] <jtatria> well, before it was like this: https://userbase.kde.org/File:SystemSettingsGTK.png
[21:07] <valorie> in fact that sounds like a bug
[21:08] <valorie> you can easily file a bug in the cli by `ubuntu-bug systemsettings` and following the prompts
[21:08] <jtatria> now it looks lke this: https://pasteboard.co/JljDi6u.png
[21:08] <jtatria> valorie: notice how the option was demoted from full module to entry under the "application style" module.
[21:09] <jtatria> valorie but it's missing abunch of options
[21:12] <valorie> then it might be worthwhile filing a bug on bugs.kde.org as well
[21:12] <valorie> and linking them
[21:12] <valorie> err
[21:12] <valorie> don't link
[21:13] <valorie> because one is a bug of krunner and search not finding the option
[21:13] <valorie> the other is options going missing
[21:16] <jtatria> valorie, i don't think its a bug in krunner. it sounds more like a feature change in system settings
[21:16] <valorie> it's a bug that it doesn't find it
[21:16] <valorie> perhaps caching, perhaps something else
[21:17] <valorie> if it isn't filed, it won't be fixed
[21:17] <valorie> or most probably will not
[21:17] <jtatria> valorie but hte bug woudn't be against krunner. krunner is indexing system-settings modules ok, the problem is that the dialog is no longer a module, it;s embedded in the "application style" module.
[21:18] <valorie> that's fair
[21:18] <valorie> but krunner is about discoverability
[21:18] <jtatria> valorie so it's by design in plasma
[21:23] <valorie> well, plasma and krunner should play well together
[21:59] <viewer|0> I have  question
[22:00] <viewer|0> Is kubuntu plasma version updated to the newest version?
[22:03] <mparillo> If you run the development version (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/), yes.
[22:08] <viewer|0> Thanks mparillo xD


[08:10] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Cheesecake Day!  – What about the other 6 items on this page?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[23:54] <JamesJRH> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ just redirects to https://one.ubuntu.com/shutdown/ .
[23:55] <beuno> JamesJRH, everything except accounts is shutting down
[23:58] <JamesJRH> beuno: Thanks for clarifying. The wiki could do with this clarification. What's the point in having an Ubuntu One account if you can't do anything with it?
[23:58] <beuno> JamesJRH, everything in Ubuntu uses it to authenticate
[23:59] <beuno> the forums, the wiki itself, etc
[23:59] <beuno> and yes, I'll point support to the wiki page to update it
[23:59] <JamesJRH> beuno: That's LaunchPad OpenID isn't it?


[10:14] <mup> PR operator#887 closed: Scenario testing API <Created by PietroPasotti> <Closed by PietroPasotti> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/887>
[15:40] <mup> PR operator#776 closed: Add data platform charms to our CI testing <Created by rwcarlsen> <Merged by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/776>


[08:07] <tjaalton> Jeremy31: when 20.04.5 is out
[08:07] <tjaalton> meaning that the hwe kernel from jammy will replace it
[09:58] <Jeremy31> Thanks tjaalton
[19:31] <Eickmeyer> tjaalton, LocutusOfBorg: Any idea what's going on with the oem kernel 1022 regression with virtualbox in excuses? I was hoping 1022 would solve it from 1021 but apparently no dice, and 1020 still has the USB/Bluetooth ADL regression.
[19:31] <Eickmeyer> The lxd regression looks like a temporary failure.


[18:02] <OerHeks> X1, put your firewall up before join #metasploit :-D
[18:02] <daftykins> lol
[18:02] <X1> lol ;)
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:02] <X1> haha
[18:04] <asher1> how i can fix this error?
[18:04] <asher1> http://pastebin.com/EhDKGyX5
[18:05] <OerHeks> asher1, are you running Saucy 13.10 ?
[18:05] <Cloroxygen> From my foggy recollection of tcp/ip illustrated I should be able to use the routing table to forward packets across two subnets connected to my gateway machine, is this correct?
[18:05] <OerHeks> you never answered hours ago
[18:06] <asher1> i dont know
[18:06] <daftykins> asher1: "cat /etc/issue"
[18:07] <daftykins> Cloroxygen: yes if you enable IP forwarding in the kernel
[18:07] <Cloroxygen> daftykins: i have
[18:07] <CodeGosu> any tcp connection monitor with gui?
[18:10] <scaredoflife> GUys
[18:10] <scaredoflife> Is it possible to set new permissions for a file while removing the old permissions?
[18:10] <scaredoflife> Instead of just appending new permissions?
[18:11] <EriC^^> scaredoflife: chmod a=rwx
[18:12] <scaredoflife> EriC^^, will that overwrite the old permissions?
[18:12] <pbxman>  /msg NickServ identify allura
[18:12] <vitimiti> Hi
[18:12] <AR45> can someone direct me to the irc channel for mac ubuntu users
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> pbxman: you might wanna change password now :p
[18:13] <pbxman> yep
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> !alis | AR45
[18:13] <EriC^^> scaredoflife: if you only want to modify the users's permissions, without appending to it, you can use chmod u=rw , for instance
[18:13] <genii> AR45: If it's an Intel based Mac, then this is the channel. If it's a PowerPC based one, then #ubuntu-ppc
[18:14] <AR45> genii: intel macbook
[18:14] <andlabs> Hi. Is it just me or is there no libwebkit2gtk-3-doc? Thanks.
[18:14] <genii> AR45: Then this is the channel.
[18:14] <AR45> genii: the instillation keeps failing
[18:15] <AR45> genii: is there anyway to disable the graphical installation
[18:15] <cyeun> after a recent apt-get upgrade...i'm now getting this: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic. anyone getting this? could be my recent upgrade of my jenkins ppa
[18:15] <AR45> genii: and just use the terminal?
[18:15] <AR45> genii: freezing not failing sorry
[18:15] <trism> andlabs: the doc is in the -dev package: /usr/share/doc/libwebkit2gtk-3.0-dev/html/index.html
[18:17] <andlabs> trism: that might be an issue
[18:17] <andlabs> /usr/share/doc/libwebkit2gtk-3.0-dev/html/webkit2gtk.devhelp2.gz
[18:17] <andlabs> devhelp will never find that =p
[18:17]  * andlabs leaves a note to self to file a bug
[18:17] <atlasherk> http://fleg.trosnab.ru/131877/5101362/ 70 cent for click for me
[18:17] <genii> AR45: Hopefully someone in the channel will know about installation on the Mac and assist. I haven't used one since PPC times
[18:18] <BluesKaj> cyeun, after upgrades packages no longer required should be removed by using sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:18] <chew> Hey guys I have a pretty basic question about permissions etc.
[18:18] <AR45> Has anyone here installed ububtu on a Macbook Pro (Late 2010)
[18:18] <chew> I'm trying to setup BitTorrent Sync.
[18:18] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I often work with disposable linux machines on AWS while developing. I will download a private key from a web interface and connect to the instance, then by the end of the day the machine will be terminated.
[18:18] <vanishing> AR45: how is it freezing? and whats the graphic card?
[18:18] <chew> I have a parent sync folder set up with me:btsync
[18:19] <Pinkamena_D> So far I always have to do the extra step of chmoding the file to 600 or 400, does the ssh daemon in ubuntu come with any way to ignore the unprotected private key error?
[18:19] <chew> I am a part of the btsync group
[18:19] <cyeun> @BluesKaj: thanks but isn't linux-image-generic required?
[18:19] <chew> but when I try to edit the file it says it's open in read-only mode..
[18:19] <AR45>  https://i.imgur.com/1RzCWYr.jpg
[18:19] <chew> What am I doing wrong?
[18:19] <yocapybara> guys - any ideas what it means if I upgrade a 10.04 machine to 12.04 and then 14.04 without rebooting, reboot it, and it doesn't come back up - i can't ssh back in, and I just get a cursor.  I can ctrl-alt-del, but ctrl-alt-f2 doesn't do anything
[18:19] <AR45> vanishing: when i hit install ubuntu on hd icon
[18:20] <AR45> vanishing: https://i.imgur.com/1RzCWYr.jpg
[18:20] <BluesKaj> cyeun, you don't have to specify the the package the autoremove command removes packages that are no longer used
[18:21] <vanishing> AR45: total freeze?
[18:22] <AR45> vanishing: https://i.imgur.com/OyBywxq.jpg
[18:22] <AR45> vanishing: see what's happening already.
[18:23] <loa> hello. can somebody explain me how i need to use uuid for disk. for example i see uuid for my disk in blkid, but how i can use it for my commands?
[18:24] <cyeun> blueskaj: yes, i understand that. let me clarify. is it okay for apt-get autoremove to remove linux-image-generic?
[18:24] <vanishing> AR45: try nomodeset and acpi=off
[18:24] <AR45> vanishing: is there a command i can use to load the simple installer
[18:25] <vanishing> AR45: try putting nomodeset and acpi=off at the end of the kernel boot option
[18:25] <AR45> vanishing: I have no idea what you mean by 'try' are those terminal commands or what?
[18:26] <scaredoflife> Can I set a particular directory as an argument using umask?
[18:26] <scaredoflife> e.g. umask 077 testdirectory
[18:26] <AR45> vanishing: okay I did it let's see what happens
[18:26] <vanishing> AR45: no no, when you are starting the install(after bios), edit the boot param
[18:26] <AR45> vanishing: yes i understand
[18:26] <vanishing> AR45: gl
[18:27] <pavlos> loa, http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/System_Administrators_Guide/s2-sysinfo-filesystems-blkid.html
[18:27] <AR45> vanishing: what exactly do they do (just curious)
[18:28] <loa> pavlos, i found uuid that i need but i don't see it under /dev/disks/by-uuid
[18:28] <pavlos> loa, you should see it when you cat /etc/fstab
[18:29] <loa> pavlos, no it is not system or automounted drive.
[18:29] <vanishing> AR45: im not sure if this will workaround your problem in this case, basically it disables the kernel from loading the video driver and use bios mode until X
[18:30] <pavlos> loa, so you have a disk which is not mounted, still you want to see the uuid?
[18:31] <vanishing> AR45: if this doesnt work, try to use some other driver/disable nvidia card in bios
[18:31] <loa> pavelz, i want that drive using uuid for zfs filesystem.
[18:31] <pavlos> loa, when you mount it, it will generate a uuid
[18:32] <loa> pavelz, it is mounted.
[18:32] <loa> but can't get how uuid and mount are linked.
[18:32] <loa> maybe i want format partition using uuid
[18:33] <loa> why i need mount it first to recieve uuid link to device?
[18:33] <AR45> vanishing: okay awesome the instillation has begun and no freeze!
[18:34] <vanishing> AR45: good luck :)
[18:34] <pavlos> loa, sudo blkid will show you the partitions with their uuid
[18:34] <OerHeks> !uuid
[18:34] <AR45> vanishing: i accidentally wiped my mac partition with ubuntu lol, i hope there wont be complications with reinstalling it after
[18:34] <loa> pavlos, looks like we go in cycle.
[18:34] <loa> like i am talking with game npc lol.
[18:35] <vanishing> AR45: hard to say.. depends on which partition you wiped...lol
[18:35] <pavlos> loa, sorry
[18:35] <loa> maybe i can't explain what i am talking about.
[18:35] <vanishing> don't have much experience with Macs
[18:35] <AR45> vanishing: it said remove osx and install ubuntu
[18:35] <AR45> vanishing: i hit that lol
[18:35] <loa> OerHeks, i know uuid for my partition, i can't mount it using my partition.
[18:35] <loa> there no symlink in /dev/disks/by-uuid
[18:35] <loa> maybe i need create it by myself?
[18:36] <OerHeks> I think the symlink appears when you have mounted.
[18:36] <loa> i can't get it
[18:37] <loa> for example i need add partition to zfs pool, and i need uuid link for it.
[18:37] <pavlos> loa, sudo mount -l should list all mounted partitions
[18:38] <AR45> vanishing: instillation complete, haha!
[18:39] <loa> i thought uuids are something persistent in /dev, which is created automaticly by kernel on booting.
[18:39] <loa> but looks like it is not like that.
[18:39] <loa> why then it is good move to set partition by uuid as root?
[18:40] <OerHeks> loa, i think you need id, not uuid
[18:47] <kuchuk> Hello
[18:49] <bprompt> allo
[18:53] <Sc0tty-> hi all, I have ubuntu running in a VM, but I cannot ping any websites from the terminal. does anyone know why this is? I can open websites in the browser so the internet is working fine
[18:54] <asd> Sc0tty-, are you running ping google.com?
[18:54] <Sc0tty-> asd: yes and it doesn't get a reply
[18:55] <clutch> yo
[18:58] <therefore> ,,,,,,,
[19:03] <maujhsn> ubottu what is linuxmint channel?
[19:04] <pavlos> maujhsn, #linuxmint
[19:07] <rww> !mintsupport
[19:08] <luciano__> list
[19:09] <gtrmtx> hey guys, running ubuntu in virtualbox and cant get my screen res above 640x480...any tips?
[19:10] <bubbasaures> gtrmtx, You add the guest additions?
[19:10] <tireli> gtrmtx, install virtualbox-guest-x11 package
[19:10] <bekks> Do NOT install virtualbox-guest-x11
[19:11] <bubbasaures> gtrmtx, There is also a #vbox channel if needed.
[19:11] <bekks> Install the guest additions as described in the vbox manual :)
[19:11] <gtrmtx> ahhh gotcha
[19:14] <moein> Can any body provide me with riseup invitation code? Sorry, if it is not right place to request.
[19:14] <gorelative|work> anyone else here use apt-mirror
[19:15] <daftykins> moein: totally off topic here, don't even know what that is.
[19:15] <maujhsn> ubottu Thanks!
[19:15] <maujhsn> A bot that answers!
[19:15] <gorelative|work> what did the bot tell you
[19:15] <gorelative|work> hey ubottu
[19:17] <maujhsn> gorelative|work U can read?
[19:18] <gorelative|work> actually, i joined the channel after it
[19:18] <gorelative|work> so no, i cant
[19:19] <maujhsn> Too bad
[19:20] <larsantos> hello, does lightsOn.sh work with ubuntu 14.04? the info I get is from 2012
[19:20] <maujhsn> gorelative|work U gotta be very selective with your questions to get a response.
[19:20] <mike_> allo
[19:23] <cool_boy> how do I know if ssh access is on or off in ubuntu? I cant access ssh my_ip I get connection timeout
[19:23] <cool_boy> on ps ax|grep ssh , I am finding something that say it is running
[19:23] <gtrmtx> so total n00b here...trying to install kolab on ubuntu and not really following the instructions...someone walk me through it?
[19:24] <Cloroxygen> Hello all, Im using an ubuntu server as a gateway, i have a fair amount of the setup now complete but I have a bit of an issue that is perplexing, <IP_ADDRESS> can ping <IP_ADDRESS> through the gateway, but <IP_ADDRESS> cant ping <IP_ADDRESS>.......each subnet is on its own interface, my routing table is set up (seemingly correct) to send packets to the correct interface/subnet.
[19:25] <decadence18> Hello... I'm having an odd problem. When I boot, I get an error "usb 1-1.4 string descriptor 0 read error: -22" before the system loads.
[19:26] <genii> Cloroxygen: Are both interfaces on the same machine?
[19:26] <Cloroxygen> genii: yes
[19:26] <genii> Cloroxygen: Whichever one is brought up last becoes the default gateway
[19:29] <decadence18> I would just like to know if it's benign or not...
[19:31] <asher1> i have GNU/Linux
[19:31] <asher1> Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[19:31] <AR45> hi
[19:31] <asher1> and i dont know how i fix error
[19:31] <asher1> i try very much time
[19:32] <asher1> http://pastebin.com/EhDKGyX5
[19:32] <AR45> asher1: you have to
[19:32] <AR45> asher1: niji liko minaj heklah
[19:33] <maujhsn> asher1 upgrade Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[19:33] <maujhsn> 11.04
[19:34] <maujhsn> 12.04
[19:35] <decadence18> ...anyone?
[19:37] <asher1> i cant
[19:37] <asher1> i see error
[19:37] <asher1> when i try something to do
[19:52] <kul> hi im running my server through file server, when i search it up on internet it doesnt show the images on my site
[19:52] <kul> any clue what the problem is?
[19:53] <pavlos> Cloroxygen, you can use traceroute to see the routes
[19:56] <Susning> I'm trying to get this application to work which seems like it's not being much up to date info about. I get this error after installing it: http://textdump.net/read/6082/
[19:56] <Susning> Any idea what to do?
[20:00] <Susning> Anyone?
[20:00] <daftykins> show some patience to start with, Susning
[20:01] <Nesbitt> anyone what?
[20:01] <Susning> Sorry :)
[20:01] <daftykins> Nesbitt: the question was prior to you entering
[20:01] <Nesbitt> o
[20:01] <daftykins> Susning: maybe research what you're trying to work with and work out why it wants glade
[20:01] <daftykins> don't just throw your hands up and say "i don't know" :)
[20:03] <Susning> I've tried finding information about this application, seems like it's not updated any more therefor I have had problems finding info. Not that I need this application in particular either. Actually I'm looking for any sfv-checker with guy. Seems like a very difficult thing to find.
[20:04] <bynarie> stingray
[20:04] <pavlos> Susning, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/natty/cksfv/
[20:04] <Susning> pavlos, yes but from what i can see that doesnt have any gui
[20:04] <Nesbitt> you could write a gui
[20:04] <OerHeks> Susning, the error "ImportError: No module named glade"   points to the package python-glade2
[20:05] <genii> Susning: Looks like it's dependencies are the packages: desktop-file-utils python-gnome2 shared-mime-info and intltool   ...are all those packages installed?
[20:06] <Susning> OerHeks, I had python-glade2 installed
[20:06] <Nesbitt> kivy makes nice python guis http://kivy.org/#home
[20:06] <Susning> genii, no but now when i installed those it works!
[20:07] <genii> Susning: Good.
[20:07] <Susning> genii, so for the future for me to learn - how you found out those dependencies?
[20:07] <OerHeks> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/parano/ i read this too
[20:07] <Susning> OerHeks, Thanks!
[20:08] <genii> Susning: Since there was no Ubuntu package, I looked up the Arch package on the page OerHeks mentioned, and then found the same dependencies under Ubuntu
[20:08] <genii> ( they were named the same except for the python-gnome2 )
[20:09] <simonor> Hi chaps. Anyone know anything about new Broadcom drivers?
[20:09] <Susning> Thanks guys!
[20:11] <simonor> Don't tell me-off topic?
[20:11] <OerHeks> simonor, i have no news about BCM drivers, do you?
[20:12] <loa> hello. how i can test filesystem for perfomance?
[20:12] <loa> i installed and did setup of zfs and want check how it is compared with ext4
[20:13] <UserError> Is there a ppa for xserver 1.16 in trusty or a beta of the stack from utopic to lts?
[20:13] <simonor> Well, I got a special offer on a sweet Pavilion last week; obviously I got rid of windows Hate and put 14.04 on
[20:13] <UserError> simonor, the BB student deal?
[20:13] <UserError> 8GB/2TB
[20:14] <simonor> Uses an 'alternative driver' for the BCM wifi/Bluetooth.
[20:14] <OerHeks> UserError, sure, but * xserver 1.16 is now in for utopic, beware that fglrx does not support it yet! https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[20:15] <UserError> lol fglrx I wouldn't dream of using that blob
[20:15] <UserError> Not with 3.16+ and 10.4 onboard.
[20:15] <simonor> UserError:No, Curry/PCWorld, £399, 1TB/8G, i3 Quad core, Beats Audio, Haswell
[20:15] <nullbyte_> which gnome will be included in 14.10?
[20:15] <Svetlana_> Can anyone help me with a problem about packages not being authenticated? Running 13.04 on a VPS.
[20:15] <UserError> 13.04 is EOL
[20:15] <moein> Can any body provide me with riseup invitation code? Sorry, if it is not right place to request.
[20:16] <daftykins> Svetlana_: that's an unsupported release, you're welcome to update to a supported release and ask again.
[20:16] <Nesbitt> @moein you can request it from them on there site
[20:16] <daftykins> moein: i told you earlier not to ask in here.
[20:16] <Svetlana_> I'm trying to update but I can't without downloading a package, and it won't authenticate it.
[20:16] <spinza> Anybody use Garmin Ant+ on linux/ubuntu?
[20:16] <daftykins> Nesbitt: i think it might be a bot :S no responses
[20:16] <moein> Nesbitt, Thanks, but how?
[20:16] <daftykins> Svetlana_: you should contact your provider for support
[20:17] <OnceMe> he
[20:17] <simonor> Svetlana, do it from the command line, it'll give you the option to override.
[20:17] <OnceMe> hello
[20:17] <OnceMe> I bought a new laptop
[20:17] <daftykins> moein: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic - your conversation is irrelevant here
[20:17] <OerHeks> !eolupdate
[20:17] <bynarie> wtf
[20:17] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[20:17] <tertu> so
[20:17] <Svetlana_> simonor: I only have CLI. I was worried about getting the upgrade package without it being authenticated.
[20:17] <OnceMe> and I have a problem, when I plugin headphone, sound does not automaticalluy recgnoze sound, so I had to turn on alsamixer, navigate to headphones and enable MM, and I had to do this everytime I plugin headphone, is there any way around?
[20:17] <Svetlana_> It's safe to override, then?
[20:18] <Nesbitt> https://user.riseup.net/forms/new_user/first
[20:18] <Austin___> hi, i've installed ubuntu desktop on my 14.04 server fresh install but cant get x11vnc to open the display after rebooting, am i missing something?
[20:19] <simonor> *At your own risk*, but I have done it on occasion. Recommend getting 13.10 on a disk and choosing upgrade, then the same same for 14.04
[20:20] <Sc0tty-> what would cause ubuntu to not be able to ping websites from the terminal?
[20:20] <Svetlana_> I don't have physical access to the VPS, only SSH.
[20:20] <bynarie> Austin___, I prefer vnc4server
[20:20] <simonor> Scotty-networking down
[20:20] <Austin___> http://pastebin.com/Nww21NiS - is hat x11vnc shows when i attempt to start it
[20:21] <OnceMe> and I have a problem, when I plugin headphone, sound does not automaticalluy recgnoze sound, so I had to turn on alsamixer, navigate to headphones and enable MM, and I had to do this everytime I plugin headphone, is there any way around?
[20:21] <Austin___> what*
[20:21] <bynarie> very easy to configure.. its what i use on my vps(ubuntu)
[20:21] <simonor> Run ifconfig -a
[20:21] <Austin___> this is a fresh install and i dont remember having to do anything other than apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Am i missing something?
[20:21] <Austin___> I currently only have ssh access
[20:22] <jtri> hello, i'm logging into a ubunto machine with ssh, and trying to set the .bash_profile file with export PS1="[mmoocs \u: \W]\$ " however when i type source .bash_profile, this is not picked up
[20:22] <jtri> it is picked up on login...
[20:22] <lordy_> Sc0tty-: not being connect to the internet?
[20:22] <jtri> it seems that source bash_profile is not the same as whatever happens when i login, and wondering what I can change to make them the same
[20:23] <pbx> jtri, to give people more data you could pastebin a shell session where you set it, cat it, and source it
[20:23] <OnceMe> pls help me
[20:23] <OnceMe> its trivial problem for experienced linux user
[20:23] <pbx> OnceMe, just ask your question
[20:23] <OnceMe> I have a problem, when I plugin headphone, sound does not automaticalluy recgnoze sound, so I had to turn on alsamixer, navigate to headphones and enable MM, and I had to do this everytime I plugin headphone, is there any way around?
[20:23] <bynarie> lol^
[20:23] <OnceMe> also sound is still hearing on speakers
[20:24] <Austin___> bynarie: VNC4Server gives the error cannot open display
[20:24] <lordy_> OnceMe: save the config?
[20:24] <jtri> pbx: asking to share the output of a specific cmd is easier to understand, not sure what you mean by cat it and source it... or "shell session" when you talk of them this way
[20:25] <bynarie> Austin___, did you also install the package gnome-core
[20:25] <bynarie> ?
[20:25] <Austin___> i didnt no. Isn't that included in ubuntu-desktop?
[20:25] <tertu> so i'm trying to connect to an SMB print station frontend
[20:25] <tertu> which isn't working
[20:25] <OnceMe> lordy_:how?
[20:25] <OnceMe> and also speakers are still sending music
[20:25] <tertu> and i'd like to know how to do it manually
[20:25] <Austin___> bynarie: i didnt no. Isn't that included in ubuntu-desktop?
[20:26] <Svetlana_> OK I figured my problem out, I had to change the sources list. Thanks.
[20:26] <bynarie> honestly im not sure
[20:26] <bynarie> could be worth a try
[20:26] <Austin___> it's not installed.. I'm doing it now
[20:26] <DeathTech> .http://linux-poetry.com/9/
[20:27] <bynarie> Austin___, I have same setup as you. VPS w/ SSH with ubuntu 14. http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-14.04 - there is how i did it
[20:27] <lordy_> OnceMe: alsactl store.....as root
[20:28] <Austin___> bynarie: thanks, i'll try that
[20:28] <OnceMe> lordy_ what?
[20:28] <OnceMe> I need pernament solution
[20:28] <OnceMe> when I plugin headphones, to speakers stop and sound goes to headphones only
[20:28] <pbx> jtri, i just mean to capture more info to help people help you. `cat .bash_profile` will print it to the terminal so we can see what's in it. by 'source it' i mean type the command you already gave us.  and i mean to copy/paste all that to a pastebin link (e.g. e.g. http://dpaste.com/1MQPJNJ), so we can see if your prompt does/doesn't change.
[20:28] <OnceMe> and vice versa
[20:29] <bynarie> no problem!
[20:29] <lordy_> OnceMe: unmute the headphone, then save it, it should work
[20:30] <OnceMe> no its not!
[20:31] <bynarie> Austin___, let me know how it comes out for you
[20:32] <OnceMe> i need soem driver
[20:32] <OnceMe> something to install
[20:32] <OnceMe> i cant remember what
[20:32] <OnceMe> help me please
[20:32] <Austin___> bynarie: going to try a reboot
[20:32] <bynarie> ok
[20:32] <simonor> So long chaps.Until 14.10 eh?
[20:34] <Austin___> bynarie: still says cannot open display
[20:34] <bynarie> damn!
[20:34] <UserError> The utopic lts xserver stack isn't in edgers :\
[20:35] <UserError> 1.16 is only released on edgers for utopic
[20:35] <bynarie> is X installed?
[20:35] <UserError> yes
[20:35] <bynarie> im assuming it probably is
[20:35] <Austin___> how do i check?
[20:35] <jtri> pbx: here's my .bash_profile: http://dpaste.com/1Y679GS
[20:35] <jtri> for some reason, when i source it, my prompt turns back to [ezacademic jtritz: ~]$ from [moocs jtritz: ~]$
[20:36] <de-vri-es> hey, I have an ubuntu armhf server using ports.ubuntu.com as mirror, but I can't update. Even after apt-get update, apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade claim there are no packages to update
[20:36] <bynarie> apt-get install xorg
[20:36] <bynarie> see if it says its installed or not
[20:36] <de-vri-es> but since bash is still vulnurable for bashdoor, I find that hard to believe
[20:36] <jtri> is there a cache version it picks up?  i edited it from ezacademic ...
[20:36] <pbx> jtri, i bet virtualenv is changing it
[20:36] <Austin___> yer its installed
[20:36] <bynarie> Austin___, ok. i am sorry then i dont know what else to do
[20:37] <Austin___> thanks for your time mate
[20:37] <bynarie> no prob
[20:37] <de-vri-es> also, apt-get update reports no errors
[20:37] <pbx> jtri, since in some configurations it does indeed change PS1, and you're sourcing activate after you export PS1
[20:37] <pbx> jtri, though wait, i misread, you're not activating the venv you're just setting an alias...
[20:38] <Austin___> I'm trying to VNC into my remote server running 14.04server. I've installed ubuntu-desktop, but x11vnc says 'can't open display' when i try to start a server. Am i missing anything other than just ubuntu-desktop?
[20:39] <pbx> jtri, when you say "turns back to..." the other prompt, if it's already set to moocs why are you trying to set it here?  also, are any other dotfiles setting prompts, e.g. .bashrc or .profile?
[20:42] <bynarie> Austin___, i have one more suggestion... do you know if you might be missing any dependencies in any of the packages you installed?
[20:43] <bynarie> also, you might run into errors if yuou have more than one VNC server installed
[20:43] <Austin___> none of them returned any errors
[20:43] <Austin___> ugh, im so stuck
[20:43] <bynarie> you could try the apt-get -f install
[20:44] <bynarie> see if it needs anything
[20:44] <compdoc> Austin___, when trying to open a vnc session?
[20:45] <compdoc> Austin___, I dont think the current Unity is compatible with VNC
[20:46] <Austin___> it should be, i was using it a day or two ago
[20:46] <bynarie> Austin___, ive always used xfce
[20:46] <compdoc> vino?
[20:46] <bynarie> unity is pretty resource intense
[20:47] <compdoc> at least with vnc4server
[20:48] <netlar> I have had apps dissappear, and had to reinstall.  Ever hear of that?
[20:49] <bynarie> ive had app "icons" disappear but not that bin app itself
[20:50] <netlar> Well for instance, I had to just reinstall Deluge.  I just used it few days ago.  When I went to the Software Center, it said it was not installed
[20:51] <OnceMe> I need an expert in linux ubuntu
[20:51] <xangua> !ask | OnceMe
[20:51] <bynarie> deluge as in torrent client?
[20:52] <netlar> bynarie: yes
[20:52] <bynarie> ah yes. i used to use it.. but i dont know anything about apps disappearing
[20:52] <netlar> Just a little disturbing
[20:52] <bynarie> very
[20:52] <OnceMe> I need an expert in linux ubuntu. I bought brand new laptop and in sound settings output shows only one output,  Ihav plugged in headphones, and sounds goes to them fine, however speakers still play music?!I try using only gnome alsamixer, didnt worked, I tried to remove pulseaudio and use alsamixer only, didnt worked, now I dont even see sound vol
[20:52] <OnceMe> ume i task bar, what to do?
[20:54] <bynarie> OnceMe, you have sound going out to both speaker and headphones?
[20:54] <OnceMe> yes
[20:55] <de-vri-es> OnceMe: you shouldn't uninstall pulseaudio. If you reinstall it you can try to play around with pavucontrol to see if you can get sound to go only to your headphones
[20:55] <de-vri-es> you may have to install pavucontrol seperately
[20:56] <bynarie> OnceMe, in gnome-alsamixer you should have a property in settings of something like headphone jack sensor
[20:56] <bynarie> is that turned on?
[20:56] <OnceMe> de-vri-es:I put pulseaudio back
[20:57] <Nvveen> Hi all, I'm trying to dualboot my new Asus Transformer T200TA (Win8 installed). I can boot from a live usb, but the internal SD storage card keeps complaining about timing out, leading me to believe the kernel in the ISO doesn't support it yet. It causes any Parted tool to take tens of minutes to do something. Does someone know how to use a newer kernel in a live usb environment or how to get the live usb to work properly on a T200TA
[20:57] <OnceMe> ok there is no such option bynarie
[20:57] <CodeGosu> cant get grub to see my windows 7, im doing root-repair. my windows 7 is on sdb5, could this message in boot info summary be an issue? "Boot sector info:  According to the info in the boot sector, sdb5 starts at sector 394. But according to the info from fdisk, sdb5 starts at sector 40966144."
[20:57] <OnceMe> I have HDMI and Realtek tabs
[20:57] <bynarie> CodeGosu, sudo update-grub
[20:57] <bynarie> that will fix it
[20:57] <OnceMe> I guess HDMI is for HDMI output which I have empty, and on realtek I have my microphone which is disabled in bios
[20:57] <OnceMe> and I have speakers and headphones
[20:58] <Nvveen> I tried compiling 3.17.x and replacing vmlinuz and initrd in the live usb, but then it complains about AUFS issues when trying to boot
[20:58] <bynarie> OnceMe, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/477226
[20:58] <bynarie> i googled it
[20:58] <OnceMe> my laptop is hp 450 G2
[21:00] <bynarie> dunno then
[21:00] <OnceMe> hmmm can you help me to retrieve
[21:00] <OnceMe> volume bar icon in gnome 1st
[21:00] <OnceMe> it disappered when I removed pulseaudio :(
[21:00] <OnceMe> now is gone
[21:01] <OnceMe> head -n 1 /proc/asound/card0/codec*
[21:01] <OnceMe> Codec: Intel Haswell HDMI
[21:02] <bynarie> hold on i brb
[21:02] <OnceMe> eh I need this solved :(
[21:03] <de-vri-es> when you removed pulseaudio it may have removed more things that depend on pulseaudio
[21:03] <de-vri-es> like the volume indicator
[21:04] <de-vri-es> so try installing it again as well
[21:06] <OnceMe> yes
[21:06] <OnceMe> what
[21:06] <OnceMe> ok solved that
[21:06] <OnceMe> now how to solve major issue
[21:06] <de-vri-es> well, I'd try to look around pavucontrol for anything interesting
[21:07] <OnceMe> hmm
[21:07] <OnceMe> do I need to remove pulseaudio now again? xd
[21:07] <de-vri-es> eh, no
[21:08] <de-vri-es> pavucontrol is a volume control (and a bit more) program for pulseaudio
[21:08] <Nvveen> Does anyone know how to solve [   11.370246] mmcblk0rpmb: timed out sending r/w cmd command, card status 0x400900 errors when booting a live usb?
[21:09] <OnceMe> de-vri-es:ok i see only HDMI output
[21:09] <OnceMe> not sure why
[21:09] <OnceMe> let me restart
[21:09] <ashley01> Hello, are there any programs that come with Ubuntu 14.04 by default that show CPU & GPU usage?
[21:09] <administrador> hola, alguien que hable español
[21:09] <ObrienDave> !es | administrador
[21:09] <k1l_> ashley01: "top"
[21:09] <administrador> gracias
[21:10] <k1l_> ashley01: gpu usage sensors depend on the driver support
[21:10] <at_work> I am appending url=http://<IP_ADDRESS>/preseed/node.preseed to my pxe boot option.  I don't see my the installer download the preseed file from my web server.
[21:10] <ashley01> k1l: I am using the open-source ATI drivers
[21:10] <Asus1> elky, i love you
[21:10] <bekks> at_work: use preseed/url=....
[21:10] <at_work> Moving through the installer manual, does work and install.
[21:11] <at_work> arggh, Thanks bekks
[21:11] <bekks> at_work: I stumpled upon the same issue some time ago ;)
[21:11] <ashley01> k1l_: what do you mean by 'top'? I've searched my applications it has not brought up anything I am unaware of
[21:12] <k1l_> ashley01: "top" is a terminal program. just write top into a terminal, exit with "q"
[21:13] <ashley01> that is very cluttered
[21:13] <ashley01> I'm not sure how to make sense of it
[21:13] <ashley01> any programs with a GUI you could recommend?
[21:14] <yvan> ashley01: gtop?
[21:14] <ashley01> i'll check it out
[21:14] <k1l_> ashley01: i use "System Load Indicator" in the systray
[21:14] <OnceMe> ok guys
[21:14] <ashley01> gtop
[21:14] <OnceMe> i solvedit temporary with pulseaudiovolumecontrol
[21:14] <OnceMe> however, its not perm. soution
[21:14] <Austin___> when i connect to my VNC session and log in as my username at the login window, x11vnc quits. Would this have something to do with me having to execute x11vnc with sudo?
[21:14] <Austin___> if i dont use sudo, x11vnc cant open the display
[21:14] <OnceMe> and also I lost sound settings, when I click on Sound settings.. I get systen settings
[21:14] <OnceMe> not sure why
[21:15] <OnceMe> everything syarted when I removed pulseaudio
[21:15] <OnceMe> how can I install all those again
[21:15] <OnceMe> started*
[21:15] <ashley01> ah yes I forgot about System Monitor, no GPU usage though
[21:15] <at_work_still> GRRRRRRRRR@comcast
[21:15] <Guest21614> Hi, I'm using ubuntu 14.04 I installed lamp with apt_get and phpmyadmin.
[21:16] <Guest21614> can't find mysql password
[21:16] <at_work_still> Does order matter in append entries?
[21:17] <OnceMe> what o dnnow
[21:18] <OerHeks> Guest21614, read the serverguide, or this light manual https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#After_installing_MySQL
[21:19] <OnceMe> now what
[21:19] <Guest21614> I tried to stop msql and sert it wo password but get error
[21:19] <Guest21614> I thought it would be my root pw but it's not.
[21:21] <OnceMe> HELP ME
[21:21] <OnceMe> FUCKING HELP ME
[21:21] <OnceMe> AM I THE HARDEST CASE EVR
[21:21] <OerHeks> Guest21614, i think you missed this step "During the installation process you will be prompted to enter a password for the MySQL root user."
[21:21] <k1l_> OnceMe: no need for that language in here.
[21:21] <Genome36_> OnceMe: i doesn't help to react like so
[21:22] <Genome36_> hello, does anyone know how the ubuntu-server install screen is called ? (e.g. the loading screen at startup is called plymouth)
[21:23] <Sc0tty-> hi, I am trying to install a cross compiler and it is saying the file does not exist even though I know it does. Any ideas on what may be the problem?
[21:26] <Genome36_> Sc0tty-: what is the command and what is the absolute path to file
[21:31] <Cloroxygen> huzzah, my gateway is up and functioning, thanks guys
[21:45] <asher1> hello i need install perl
[21:45] <asher1> is have guide in here?
[21:45] <asher1> !guide install perl
[21:46] <asher1> :\
[21:46] <asher1> !perl
[21:47] <pavlos> asher1, sudo apt-get install perl
[21:48] <genii> Might want to do just before that also, : sudo apt-get update
[21:49] <asher1> ok
[21:49] <asher1> i have
[21:49] <asher1> i need install from perl this  LWP::Simple Perl module
[21:50] <asher1> how? sudo cpan?
[21:51] <pavlos> asher1, http://www.cpan.org/modules/INSTALL.html
[21:55] <n1cky> don't use cpan as root ideally
[21:55] <n1cky> http://openwall.info/wiki/internal/perl/cpan
[21:56] <yorwos> how can i install different desktop for new user ? if i do it on new user it wont mix/mess with my own yes ?
[21:57] <n1cky> a new window manager will be installed globally via apt.
[21:58] <n1cky> If you wish to have a different user use a different window manager, you can do so by editing their ~/.xinitrc file
[21:58] <n1cky> although this is assuming that you're using a setup that I would expect you to be using, but maybe isn't true necessarily.
[21:58] <yorwos> yea i want a new user to use kwin manager , while my normal stay on ubuntustudio
[21:58] <n1cky> For example, I don't use a login manager.
[21:58] <n1cky> Do you use a login manager?
[21:58] <n1cky> a graphical one?
[21:59] <n1cky> obviously you use a login manager. xD
[21:59] <yorwos> i was using kwin over ubuntustudio but i ended up .... reinstalling system
[21:59] <n1cky> yorwos: silly! don't do that!
[21:59] <yorwos> yea the default, its xfce i think
[21:59] <n1cky> xfce is a window manager, i do not think that is true.
[21:59] <n1cky> in any case
[21:59] <n1cky> sudo apt-get install <window mangaer you want>
[22:00] <n1cky> and nothing should change on your system. It is merely installed.
[22:00] <n1cky> I'm kind of confused as to why you want another user, that shouldn't have much to do with anything.
[22:00] <yorwos> it was working properly for months until i logged in in kde session , then after i logged in to ubuntustuido session everything was messed up
[22:01] <n1cky> If you use a graphical login manager (eg, youre not looking at a terminal when you first boot) then you should be able to select the wm from there.
[22:01] <yorwos> i think i saved session logging out though or something
[22:01] <pavlos> yorwos, I assume you're running 14.04
[22:01] <yorwos> yes i am pavlos
[22:01] <n1cky> If you use getty as your login manager, edit your .xinitrc and startx will exec whatever wm you like.
[22:02] <n1cky> yorwos: saved session logging out? No idea what you're saying.
[22:02] <bynarie> yorwos, whats the problem?
[22:03] <swift_fan> How do you use tcpdump to see what other servers your server is communicating with ?
[22:03] <yorwos> theres no problem just wondering about installing kwin manager over ubuntustudio , if i should do it for a new user or on normal account
[22:03] <yorwos> i ended messing things a lot last time i done it on normal account
[22:04] <bynarie> yorwos, it doesnt matter... the window manager isnt specific to a certain user
[22:05] <bynarie> when login manager loads, most of them have some type of "session" button or icon you have to click to chose your window manager for that session
[22:07] <pavlos> swift_fan, you can use tcpdump to sniff the interface (eth0) or an IP of the target server
[22:09] <swift_fan> pavlos : How do you sniff the IP of the target server using tcpdump ?
[22:23] <selk3t> .
[22:23] <Kion> when is 14.10 comming?
[22:23] <Kion> any news?
[22:25] <shibboleth> Kion: i'm guessing they will stick to the usual cycle
[22:26] <Kion> shibboleth: right, I was kind of asking if there was an expected day of the month.
[22:28] <CaffeineAddict> using Quagga (a fork of Zebra) on Ubuntu, is there a method of listing all IP addresses assigned via DHCP via the command line
[22:29] <AR45__> I installed ubuntu 14.04 on my Macbook Pro 7,1. When I started the instilation process originally. It appeared that the wireless drivers were not loaded so I went to `additional drivers` and selected the `Broadcom 802.11 STA wireless driver source from  bcmwl-kernel-source` applied the changes and wala I could see my wireless network and connect!
[22:29] <AR45__> When the OS finish installing to my HD it had an option to restart so I said yes and as it rebooted I saw a message with this url: `http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43`. When ubuntu was fully loaded and I logged in. I coud no longer find wireless netowork.
[22:29] <AR45__> I went back into `Additional Driver` and tried to enable `Broadcom 802.11 STA wireless driver source from  bcmwl-kernel-source` but to my suprise it wouldn't enable. So now I'm the LiveUSB where. I have connection to the internet and also the HD that Ubuntu is installed on
[22:32] <jeremy31> AR45__ Run lspci -nn -d 14e4: in terminal and tell us what is behind 14e4:
[22:36] <AR45__> jeremy31: 432b
[22:37] <jeremy31> AR45__: Ok, do you have a wired connection?
[22:37] <AR45__> jeremy31: No.
[22:37] <rww> !schedule-#ubuntu+1 | Kion
[22:37] <AR45__> jeremy31: That's the problem..
[22:38] <AR45__> jeremy31: I have access to my HD that ubuntu is installed on so, if I can download the files here and just transfer them
[22:38] <AR45__> jeremy31: then boot into my hd and run it
[22:38] <jeremy31> AR45__: can you search the files on the Live USB for bcmwl-kernel-source
[22:40] <AR45__> jeremy31: The LiveUSB isn't mounted for some reason
[22:41] <jeremy31> AR45__: no problem if you have a way to save the file as you can download 32 or 64 bit versions from http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/bcmwl-kernel-source
[22:42] <AR45__> jeremy31: Okay.
[22:42] <Kion> ubottu: thanks!
[22:42] <AR45__> jeremy31: I was looking at this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl
[22:43] <AR45__> jeremy31: I downloaded it!
[22:43] <jeremy31> AR45__: probably not what you want but it could work
[22:43] <AR45__> jeremy31: It's in .deb do I just double click it to run it
[22:44] <jeremy31> AR45__: if you have gdebi installed you can double click, otherwise you need terminal and dpkg -i bcmwl if the file is in your home folder
[22:45] <Guest62396> !list
[22:48] <AR45__> jeremy31: will give it a go brb
[22:48] <jeremy31> AR45__: I forgot that the Live USB file system will be labelled computer in the file system
[22:51] <jeremy31> AR45__: bcmwl is the source file for bcmwl-kernel-source so it would need to be compiled
[22:51] <Elimin8er> This might sound like a dumb question, but I got error with BOOT partition, 0% space left.. How do I delete all them older kernels that I no longer need there.. ???
[22:54] <squinty> Elimin8er:  if you have Synaptic package manager installed, search for  linux-image and uninstall the older ones from there
[22:55] <Elimin8er> squinty, can do. thanks. ill go try that out.. I thought it auto delete the old ones when updated.. guess I was wrong,
[22:56] <squinty> Elimin8er:  might want to consider keeping the current one and one backup though
[22:56] <yorwos> eliminer autoremove ?
[22:57] <Elimin8er> I used auto remnove.. thats what Im talking about
[22:58] <Elimin8er> but it didnt delete from the boot partition I guess
[22:58] <Elimin8er> is uninstalling now all the kernel-images..
[22:58] <Elimin8er> the older ones even
[22:58] <Elimin8er> im only keeping the last 2
[22:58] <squinty> Elimin8er:  afaik, autoremove only removes un-needed packages.  older kernels are not necessarily un-needed
[22:59] <Elimin8er> squinty, thanks. thats good to know.. ill keep that in mind from now on,, :)
[22:59] <Elimin8er> that was the stranges error I ever got.. :)
[23:00] <acecipher> Hi, I'm having trouble connecting to my wifi network with a wifi usb adapter. I can get the device to work and see networks, but it won't connect, and appearantly has some trouble getting the passwords through. I tried to mess around with wpa_supplicant.conf, but appearantly that can't find my wlan0 device.
[23:01] <squinty> Elimin8er:  seems to be a common problem with the /boot filling up...so you are not alone. :)
[23:01] <netlar> Is there a way to check the health of the OS?
[23:01] <Elimin8er> squinty, yea but I should of paid more attention to that.. I just didnt think.. im still getting used to linux again. :)
[23:01] <wallyp> clear
[23:03] <netlar> I get some random events that seem a bit disturbing to me
[23:03] <jeremy31> acecipher: have any info on it from lsusb
[23:03] <acecipher> It does see it: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 050d:615a Belkin Components F7D4101 / F9L1101 802.11abgn Wireless Adapter [Broadcom BCM4323]
[23:06] <xubuntu> hello
[23:06] <FAQer> Hello people! There's a vote for the next mascot and official wallpaper of the TinHat linux distro happening right now in #tinhat . Pick your favorite from http://imgur.com/a/8LmAN/all and let us know in the channel. For more information about what TinHat Linux is, follow this link: http://opensource.dyc.edu/tinhat
[23:06] <Austin___> I'm trying to VNC to a freshly installed ubuntu-server with ubuntu-desktop installed but display :0 cannot be opened. Am i missing any other dependencies in 14.04 to get VNC to work?
[23:06] <jeremy31> acecipher: have you done any searches on the internet as a lot of broadcom USB devices aren't supported under linux by open source or proprietary drivers
[23:06] <UserError> Is there a ppa i can test the 14.04.2 at?
[23:06] <UserError> need xorg 1.16
[23:08] <OerHeks> UserError, only for Utopic 14.10
[23:09] <jeremy31> acecipher: did a quick search and it seams ndiswrapper is the way to get it to work and ndiswrapper isn't very reliable
[23:09] <trevnorris> have usb external formatted w/ btrfs, using ubuntu 14.04, attempting to set "chattr +c <file>" results in "chattr: Invalid argument while setting flags on <file>"
[23:09] <trevnorris> tried w/ and w/o mounted compress=lzo. anything basic I'm missing?
[23:09] <UserError> OerHeks but edgers has xorg 1.16 for utopic
[23:09] <UserError> So wtf
[23:09] <OerHeks> ....
[23:10] <acecipher> jeremy31: ndiswrapper appears to be working, just can't communicate with the router.
[23:10] <UserError> as does the canonical x team ppa
[23:11] <AR45> jeremy31: hey
[23:11] <UserError> Are there any incompatibilities if i just build it on a ppa for trusty
[23:11] <OerHeks> UserError, so there must be a reason, ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:11] <UserError> They told me to come here >.<
[23:11] <AR45> test
[23:12] <zerick> Hi folks, I'm trying to install dh-make but it seems to be obsolete (on Ubuntu 14.04), is it? which is the correct name or where I can found it ?
[23:12] <ForSpareParts> Is anybody else having trouble with HDMI audio recently? I’m getting no audio out from my Radeon card over HDMI, but it used to work fine. No idea what changed.
[23:12] <OerHeks> !info dh-make
[23:14] <acecipher> xP
[23:15] <rww> OerHeks: erm, what does Xorg Edgers have to do with #ubuntu+1?
[23:17] <rww> or "how do I get Xorg 1.16 on Trusty" in general
[23:19] <k1l_> UserError: 14.04(.2) will receive the kernel and xorg stack from 14.10 as a backport in the hardware enablement stack. if you want a PPA to support a specific version for a specific ubunut release, talk to that PPA maintainer.
[23:20] <UserError> Ok so is there a canonical irc channel
[23:20] <OerHeks> rww, xorg 1.16 is only available from thap ppa, and works for utopic, that is how thic circle is made, he wishes 1.16 for trusty but thy this is hard to compile, therefore i sended him back to #ubuntu+1
[23:20] <jakesyl> can anyone tell me the problem with this cronscript https://gist.github.com/jakesyl/197ee1b47f3dc89c63b5 ?
[23:20] <OerHeks> thy=why
[23:20] <rww> OerHeks: So you sent him to #ubuntu+1 so that he can get help setting up Utopic?
[23:21] <OerHeks> rww, to get info about the changes why 1.16 will not be available for 14.04
[23:21] <rww> OerHeks: that's not relevant to #ubuntu+1 at all...
[23:21] <UserError> It will be at some point, given the HWE stack usual
[23:21] <jakesyl> cron job*
[23:21] <rww> but yeah, what k1l_ said.
[23:22] <UserError> If Ubuntu isn't going to do that please let me know now ;)
[23:22] <UserError> Kind of an important thing
[23:22] <UserError> Considering the support with 12.04.x
[23:23] <UserError> If it is a kernel issue I am already on the utopic kernel from the canonical ppa
[23:23] <UserError> 3.16.x
[23:25] <jakesyl> anyone have any idea what's wrong with it, is the cd misplaced there?
[23:26] <potato_farmer> jakesyl: Does this work? */1 * * * * /usr/bin/python3 /home/jakesyl/Quotes/pyQOTD/src/main.py
[23:27] <potato_farmer> That should all be on one line
[23:27] <potato_farmer> You actually don't need the /1.
[23:27] <potato_farmer> * * * * * /usr/bin/python3 /home/jakesyl/Quotes/pyQOTD/src/main.py
[23:28] <potato_farmer> wait a minute, is this for a script cron is calling, or the cron job itself?
[23:29] <genii> Also, is main.py +x ?
[23:30] <jakesyl> It's a cron job i'm trying to crontab and no do i have to chmod it?
[23:32] <jakesyl> That wasn't the problem, so why can't i just run main .py i did cd?
[23:34] <potato_farmer> You can't do a "cd" in a crontab file. If this is a script called by cron, then what error are you seeing when it runs? (also, if this is a script you are calling, remove the */1 * * * * )
[23:34] <jakesyl> well i need to run the script in that directory because of relative directorys in python
[23:35] <genii> jakesyl: Better to put a shebang in the main.py of:  #!/usr/bin/python3       and then just call it in the crontab with full path
[23:36] <jakesyl> I just did genii
[23:37] <jakesyl> should I just make it run another file and then have that one cd into my directory and exec main.py from there witha  subprocess?
[23:37] <genii> jakesyl: You can also set the current working directory inside the script so it executes where it should
[23:38] <jakesyl> really how do I do that?
[23:39] <genii> jakesyl: Like: import os    then: os.chdir ("/home/wherever")
[23:42] <Austin___> g to access my remote server via VNC running a fresh install of ubuntu desktop, but i keep getting 'XOpenDisplay failed' errors
[23:42] <Austin___>                          (see: http://tinyurl.com/q6f62s7) can anyone offer any advice?
[23:42] <Austin___> Hi all, i'm trying to access my remote server via VNC running a fresh install of ubuntu desktop, but i keep getting 'XOpenDisplay failed' errors (see: http://tinyurl.com/q6f62s7) can anyone offer any advice?
[23:43] <zerick> OerHeks apt tells me that there's not package candidate
[23:45] <OerHeks> zerick, strange, it is available.
[23:45] <sythe> Hey
[23:45] <sythe> My Skype stopped working when I updated it
[23:45] <sythe> What gives?
[23:45] <sythe> I've made triple-sure that Pulseaudio isn't installed, so that can't be breaking it
[23:45] <genii> zerick: Was your box connected to the internet during install? May have only the install DVD in sources.list. Because dh-make is clearly in the main repo which should be in there by default
[23:46] <acecipher> sythe: Have you tried to reinstall it?
[23:46] <sythe> No, no
[23:46] <sythe> I did, however, purge Pulseaudio
[23:46] <sythe> sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
[23:46] <acecipher> Good man :P
[23:46] <sythe> https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA10964/how-do-i-adjust-the-sound-settings-on-my-computer-and-in-skype-for-linux
[23:46] <genii> zerick: If no internet connection during install, the DVD is the only thing in the sources.list
[23:46] <sythe> It says something about requiring Pulse there, though, acecipher
[23:47] <acecipher> Mhmmm.
[23:47] <sythe> ". As of version 4.3, the ALSA sound system is no longer supported without PulseAudio."


[04:26] <blane> anyone around ?
[04:38] <blane> anyone around?
[05:23] <coz_> blane,  I am here
[05:23] <coz_> not sure what good I can do though :)
[05:25] <coz_> and I will be leaving soon
[05:29] <blane> hey coz
[05:29] <blane> sorry for the late reply
[13:14] <thorwil> kmrs75: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/20fdb98461a1f98edf17f9e4f55e70be
[17:11] <thorwil> kmrs75: ping
[18:19] <thorwil> http://www.davidairey.com/qualities-in-identity-standards/