[08:01] <SDFH_Linux> good to see gaim 1.4 working in ubuntu but not yet in debian unstable
[08:01] <Darkest> Can someone help me? Os - Ubuntu 5.0.4. I need a package libatk. Synaptic says that ver. libatk1.0-0_1.9.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb is the lastest. But on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/atk1.0/ there is a newer version  libatk1.0-0_1.10.1-2_i386.deb. Why Synaptic don't want to see this version, and don't want to download it?
[08:02] <lucaz__> how can i get a specific version of a pkg?
[08:02] <The_Vox> Darkest: did you update the repo before checking?
[08:02] <dabaR> Darkest: why you want this version...
[08:02] <Darkest> The_Vox, yes
[08:03] <The_Vox> Darkest: then I have no clue
[08:03] <patrickj> where can I get some good backgrounds?
[08:03] <jasoncohen> Darkest, the latter package is from breez
[08:03] <jasoncohen> *breezy
[08:03] <dabaR> patrickj: google image search
[08:03] <citrus> whats the best way of going about printing to a printer on a different windows machine on my network in ubuntu
[08:03] <wizo> hey _maydayjay_: when after i rebooted after installing the driver, it then shows me the normal startup stuff like checking filesystem all that and then i get a black screen, as in, its not even turned on =/
[08:04] <jasoncohen> libatk1.0 is version 1.9.1-0ubuntu1 in hoary. there's no reason to have the newer version just to do so
[08:04] <S|AY3R> can someone help plz...a friend is havin trouble w/ xchat....cant connect to efnet...ident issues
[08:04] <jasoncohen> your system is fine
[08:04] <dabaR> S|AY3R: tell your friend not to get banned.
[08:04] <S|AY3R> hes not banned
[08:05] <dabaR> nice.]
[08:05] <S|AY3R> not getting ident response
[08:05] <patrickj> dabaR: lol
[08:05] <patrickj> brb
[08:05] <S|AY3R> hmm
[08:06] <dabaR> S|AY3R: not sure.
[08:06] <patrickj> when I startup my computer, firestarted auto goes, but it gives me an error: you do not have privelages to run firestarter, how can I fix this?
[08:06] <arbir> finally i got my name back
[08:06] <S|AY3R> k
[08:06] <arbir> it ws boring being arbi1, arbi2 and so on
[08:07] <dabaR> patrickj: how do you auto start it?
[08:07] <dabaR> arbir: :)
[08:07] <arbir> :-) @ dabaR
[08:07] <patrickj> it just goes auto once you install it :?
[08:08] <dabaR> patrickj: are you a sudoer? you must be...
[08:08] <Computer__Guru> Okay, I need help. I want *ANYBODY* on my local network to be able to browse my smb shared files WITHOUT a user/pass.. WTF is wrong with samba
[08:08] <dabaR> GO check out your session in System>Prefs|Admin
[08:08] <dabaR> for startup progs, and tell me.
[08:09] <Computer__Guru> anyone? before i pull my friggen hair out
[08:09] <dabaR> give it a sec
[08:09] <dabaR> hi, guru.
[08:10] <Computer__Guru> hi
[08:10] <Computer__Guru> lucaz__:  i'll dump it in a pastebin
[08:10] <lucaz__> ok
[08:11] <arbir> dabaR: if i have 3 or 4 repositories.. and if i want to update a package .. how do choose from which repository the upate should come from ?
[08:12] <b|ackwo|f> do you guys know if this linux distro works good on a dell dimension 3000 decently ?
[08:12] <Morti> Computer__Guru: security = share
[08:12] <Morti> I think.
[08:12] <cyphase> would there happen to be a good utility for extracting a sound byte from an avi file?
[08:12] <dabaR> arbir: why would you do taht? just keep backports out of there nless you need them.
[08:12] <Computer__Guru> lucaz__:  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/787
[08:13] <dabaR> b|ackwo|f: wiki.ubuntu.com-->hardware support
[08:13] <Computer__Guru> think that will do it?
[08:13] <arbir> i just put in backports as i had to update my firefox @ dabaR
[08:13] <dabaR> arbir: now remove them.
[08:13] <dabaR> and update
[08:13] <arbir> ok....
[08:14] <arbir> i have also the community repository....enabled...
[08:14] <arbir> so from where would the updates come @ dabaR
[08:14] <Computer__Guru> brb
[08:14] <Morti> Computer__Guru: public = yes under the [MEDIA]  bit.
[08:14] <IceDC571> do i really need no firewall for ubuntu?
[08:14] <miernik> I want to use hoary with some packaes from breezy and debian sid and experimental, so according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto I've put APT::Default-Release "hoary"; in my /etc/apt/apt.conf But this doesn't work, aptitude still want's to upgrade for example binutils to 2.16.1-2ubuntu2 which is from breezy, and a bunch of other packages
[08:14] <b|ackwo|f> k
[08:14] <dabaR> arbir: did you read the components page ?
[08:14] <Morti> Computer__Guru: And change ;security = user to security = share.
[08:14] <arbir> yeah... i did....
[08:14] <lucaz__> try security = shared
[08:14] <arbir> dabaR: i think then i am missing something
[08:14] <arbir> or i amj ust sleepy :-)
[08:15] <dabaR> arbir: well, each package comes from a specific repo.
[08:15] <lucaz__> Computer__Guru, try security = shared
[08:15] <dabaR> arbir: they dont appear in two repos, only in one. However backports has newer versions, so duplicates happen there.
[08:15] <arbir> dabaR: can say for example... vi come from both comminuty and main ?
[08:15] <reka> IceDC571: from what's been said in here, no ... the biggest risk is the person sitting in front of the computer. :)
[08:15] <_maydayjay_> mizo - all I can find is some articles mentioning to change the "nvidia" entry to "nv" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:15] <Morti> lucaz__: "share", not "shared".
[08:15] <dabaR> wtf community? first voice...
[08:15] <arbir> ok i am taking out backports now! @ dabaR
[08:16] <Computer__Guru> Morti, lucaz__ : it worked :) now, how do I belong to a workgroup that has spaces int he name?
[08:16] <wizo> _maydayjay_: hmm same
[08:16] <IceDC571> reka: well do you think hackers target unix users more often than windows?
[08:16] <Computer__Guru> the workgroup name is IN HELL WE BURN... i tried %20 as the space, but no go
[08:16] <dabaR> arbir: what is this community repo you are saying?
[08:17] <HrdwrBoB> Computer__Guru: try no spaces.
[08:17] <Computer__Guru> IN%20HELL%20WE%20BURN
[08:17] <reka> IceDC571: for the pure fact that there are more windows users, no.
[08:17] <Computer__Guru> hrmm
[08:17] <Morti> Computer__Guru: Take the spaces out. ;)
[08:17] <arbir> oh that is
[08:17] <Computer__Guru> hahah
[08:17] <arbir> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[08:17] <Morti> Also, y'know, change the name of the workgroup 'cause that isn't nice.
[08:17] <Madpilot> use IN_HELL_WE_BURN or something?
[08:17] <arbir> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[08:18] <Morti> Just don't use it, use something nice.
[08:18] <Madpilot> underscores > spaces, supposedly
[08:18] <dabaR> arbir: that is universe. anyhow, check out in synaptic in some menu, there is a specify version, that is what means to specify from some repository, likely.
[08:18] <Morti> "bunnies" or something.
[08:18] <arbir> thereis also this deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-update universe
[08:18] <wizo> cya guys
[08:18] <IceDC571> wizo: bye :)
[08:18] <dabaR> zya
[08:18] <Computer__Guru> thank you guys worked perfectly
[08:18] <dabaR> nice
[08:18] <arbir> and how do i add breezy to my repository ?
[08:18] <dabaR> hehe
[08:18] <Computer__Guru> now i can go downstairs and watch this movie on a real tv :D
[08:18] <dabaR> dont, and you dont.
[08:19] <arbir> i need to get the MySql 5.0 beta
[08:19] <IceDC571> oh god, please dont ask for help after you install breezy.. lol
[08:19] <lucaz__> Computer__Guru, take a look in your win, how it shows the name of th workgroup
[08:19] <dabaR> the deb-src bob talked about?
[08:19] <arbir> i want the source  and i will compile it myself
[08:19] <dabaR> arbir: how come you bneed that?
[08:19] <arbir> i have to eval mysql 5.0
[08:19] <IceDC571> wizo: what seems to be the problem?
[08:19] <arbir> need to check out some things in that....
[08:19] <dabaR> eval? like evaluate?
[08:19] <arbir> yeah evaluate
[08:19] <dabaR> kool, sounds kool.
[08:19] <wizo> IceDC571: after installing driver, cant find my laptop screen
[08:19] <IceDC571> wizo: what motherboard chipset do you have?
[08:20] <reka> wizo: what instructions are you following?
[08:20] <arbir> well.... i was just wondering
[08:20] <arbir> if i get the source
[08:20] <wizo> the previous 2 times i followed ubuntuguide.org
[08:20] <arbir> then compile it
[08:20] <wizo> IceDC571: i have no idea
[08:20] <lucaz__> Computer__Guru, it shows with the spaces?
[08:20] <dabaR> not sure. Something along the lines of deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe or whatever repo that program is ibn
[08:20] <arbir> and then ysing checkinstall.. make a debian package and install it.. will it get added to the apt database?
[08:20] <dtorg21> hey you guys wanna give ray_ his voice back, he helped me with Java and i wanna help him out
[08:21] <arbir> ok dabaR
[08:21] <reka> wizo: well, a possibly better guide is here: wizo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:21] <_maydayjay_> wizo - I would set /etc/inittab to runlevel 3 and experiment a bit ... using startx to launch x ...
[08:21] <arbir> is it good to install from the mysql website ?
[08:21] <arbir> compile from source ?
[08:21] <wizo> hmm
[08:21] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to enable the 'mailto' option in the right click menu in xchat?
[08:21] <dabaR> I am not sure, arbir if it will be in your apt, I dont think so, not sure what to be in apt means neither.
[08:21] <_maydayjay_> wizo - does it work without the nvidia drivers?
[08:22] <dtorg21> I cant get Wireless to work, anyone able to help me out i have a emachine 6809
[08:22] <wizo> im not without nvidia drivers
[08:22] <wizo> now*
[08:22] <wizo> thats wad my friend told me
[08:22] <arbir> i mean.. when i open my synaptic.. will mysql 5.0 beta show up ?
[08:22] <_maydayjay_> wizo - before?
[08:22] <wizo> before?
[08:22] <wizo> in windows i use nvidia
[08:22] <_maydayjay_> wizo - on a fresh install?
[08:22] <dabaR> arbir: I dont think so. maybe...you have to see.
[08:22] <arbir> http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ this is what i use to cleanly install and remove my packages
[08:23] <reka> skalpel: /j #xchat
[08:23] <_maydayjay_> nvidia drivers are a manual process after install has completed usually
[08:23] <wizo> in linux, intel i think, thats wad my friend told me after looking at some things i pasted to him
[08:23] <dtorg21> hey can some please help ray_ get his voice back please
[08:23] <arbir> i have loed this util always...... makes rpms, slack packages and debian packaages
[08:24] <arbir> k dabaR i need to sleep now.. got work tomorrow.. thanks for the help.. nice talking toyou.... see you here soon :-)
[08:24] <dabaR> arbir: I think that if you get the source from their website, yeah sure. But I think taht bob recommended getting the source thing in your apt because that way you can build all the dependencies through apt, and not manually.
[08:24] <dabaR> yes, see ya.
[08:24] <frank> anybody use gxmame here?
[08:24] <arbir> how do you leave a channel
[08:25] <arbir> i forgot the command :-)
[08:25] <dabaR>  /part
[08:25] <dabaR>  /part leave messagfe
[08:25] <eknowledg> ok...so back to my whole "x won't start" problem
[08:25] <arbir> thanks dabaR
[08:25] <dabaR> hehe
[08:25] <dabaR> welcome.
[08:26] <wizo> heh
[08:26] <eknowledg> woke up this morning...booted up....x won't start
[08:26] <eknowledg> anyone have any ideas?
[08:26] <reka> eknowledg: can you see anything fishy in '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[08:27] <eknowledg> sure can
[08:27] <eknowledg> says that the nvidia drivers can't be found
[08:27] <eknowledg> but when I lsmod | grep nvid*
[08:27] <wizo> oooo
[08:27] <eknowledg> it shows nvidia
[08:27] <wizo> does nvidia have issues with all linux?
[08:27] <eknowledg> no no
[08:27] <poningru> yeah kinda
[08:27] <poningru> err nm thats ati
[08:28] <eknowledg> it worked flawless up until this morning
[08:28] <poningru> I am thinking about
[08:28] <reka> hmm, i'm an ati user myself, but post your xorg.conf file to a pastebin
[08:28] <poningru> Nvidia plays nice
[08:28] <wizo> it does?
[08:28] <eknowledg> reka I can't...I'm in term right now using bitchx
[08:28] <wizo> i juz isntalled the drivers
[08:28] <wizo> gonan go restart my comp
[08:28] <wizo> and im pretty darn sure i wont beable to get back in
[08:28] <wizo> be able*
[08:28] <eknowledg> install bitchx first
[08:28] <patrickj> hey whats a good program to rip music?
[08:29] <reka> eknowledg: join #flood, and paste it there
[08:29] <psychonate> Is there a command I can use to see what kind of file a certain file is.
[08:29] <psychonate> patrickj, I prefer grip myself.
[08:29] <eknowledg> reka....how do you copy and paste in term?
[08:29] <patrickj> I have grip, but its reading my damm coldplay cd as a ronald reagan speech :/
[08:29] <psychonate> rofl
[08:29] <reka> eknowledg: do you have a middle mouse button?
[08:29] <IceDC571> grip with the right commands is beautiful
[08:29] <psychonate> patrickj, check the CDDB options
[08:29] <eknowledg> i have no mouse in term
[08:29] <patrickj> psychonate: where?
[08:29] <reka> :)
[08:29] <psychonate> patrickj, in the config/configure tab
[08:29] <eknowledg> lol
[08:30] <wizo> ok guys
[08:30] <wizo> gonna reboot now
[08:30] <psychonate> btw, anyone have an answer to my question?
[08:30] <wizo> pray for me =p
[08:30] <reka> psychonate: 'file <file>':)
[08:30] <eknowledg> does anyone know if there's a way to see the synaptics log?
[08:30] <Madpilot> psychonate: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0030.php#file
[08:30] <dabaR> good luck wizo.
[08:31] <psychonate> reka, that saved the day for me :)
[08:31] <psychonate> reka, ty
[08:31] <patrickj> psychonate: what format should I rip to?
[08:31] <keyes> hello
[08:31] <eknowledg> reka outta ideas?
[08:31] <psychonate> I was trying to extract a subtitle from an archive with no extension, but I didn't know what it was compressed with heh
[08:31] <reka> eknowledg: how'd you install the driver?
[08:31] <skalpel> can someone recommend a good soulseek client besides nicotine?
[08:31] <psychonate> patrickj, that's personal preference really. I prefer ogg vorbis myself.
[08:32] <reka> psychonate: yep, useful command.
[08:32] <eknowledg> ubuntuguide.org....but that's not the problem...because i did that after a fresh install...about 3 weeks ago, and it stopped working today
[08:32] <patrickj> how can I add that format to ripping?
[08:32] <cyphase> Anyone know of a utility for extracting a sound byte from an avi file?
[08:32] <keyes> Is multiverse in Synaptic (but non-selected) by default or multiverse must be added manually in source.list ?
[08:32] <psychonate> patrickj, are you just going to be listening to these songs on your computer, or are you planning on transferring them to a portable player or anything?
[08:32] <patrickj> just my computer
[08:32] <cyphase> ogg is better
[08:32] <reka> keyes: correct.  it must be enabled
[08:32] <psychonate> ogg vorbis is probably your best choice then
[08:32] <psychonate> cyphase, technically, ogg is just a container (vorbis the audio codec) AFAIK
[08:33] <cyphase> i know
[08:33] <patrickj> psychonate: how do I add the option to rip *.ogg files in grip?
[08:33] <lucaz__> why not mp3?
[08:33] <cyphase> theora being the video codec
[08:33] <psychonate> patrickj, I don't know off the top of my head, but it's all in the configure tabs
[08:33] <patrickj> mp3 is ....
[08:33] <reka> eknowledg: not sure sorry ... don't know about nvidia probs really...
[08:33] <keyes> reka:  must be added maually (not a checkbox) ? ok
[08:33] <patrickj> can u check yours and see?
[08:33] <Mestapheles> hi guys,  does d-i use parted as a backend?
[08:33] <patrickj> because im unsure of it
[08:33] <psychonate> cyphase, well, you can put more video than just theora video streams in an ogg container
[08:33] <patrickj> ~/mp3/%A/%d/%n.wav/ogg, im guessing thats correct?
[08:33] <eknowledg> reka no prob mann, thanks for tryin
[08:33] <reka> keyes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositories
[08:33] <eknowledg> anyone else have any ideas?
[08:33] <psychonate> cyphase, I have never tried theora. How is it?
[08:33] <keyes> thanks
[08:34] <psychonate> patrickj, check the encoder option
[08:34] <reka> keyes: or if you prefer editing directly: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[08:34] <patrickj> ~/mp3/%A/%d/%n.%x :/
[08:34] <psychonate> patrickj, just take your time and browse through all the options
[08:34] <keyes> thanks
[08:35] <psychonate> Config > Encode > Encoder > Encoder
[08:35] <psychonate> you want that to be oggenc
[08:36] <patrickj> YAY i got it to work :p
[08:36] <cyphase> psychonate, it's good
[08:36] <cyphase> small size
[08:37] <cyphase> good quality
[08:37] <skalpel> can someone recommend a good soulseek client besides nicotine?
[08:37] <root> sup all
[08:37] <cyphase> su root
[08:37] <skalpel> hello root.
[08:37] <skalpel> root: you should not irc as root.
[08:37] <wizo> heh oops, in recovery mode now, lolx
[08:37] <patrickj> w00t
[08:37] <wizo> using irssi
[08:37] <patrickj> ripping so slow...
[08:37] <skalpel> wizo: you should restart
[08:38] <wizo> errrr skalpel: i cant
[08:38] <skalpel> wizo: quit irc
[08:38] <skalpel> i hear ircing as root can be very dangerous
[08:38] <eknowledg> why is that
[08:38] <eknowledg> ?
[08:38] <cyphase> very
[08:38] <wizo> heh, i installed the nvidia drivers and i cant get to ubuntu
[08:38] <skalpel> login as someone else
[08:38] <wizo> how?
[08:38] <skalpel> you should not even be able to use irc in recovery mode
[08:38] <wizo> well, i am
[08:38] <eknowledg> wait wait, why is it so bad?
[08:38] <wizo> the only choice i have
[08:38] <skalpel> wizo: restart in regular mode and login as your username, then use irssi
[08:38] <wizo> dude
[08:38] <skalpel> maybe i am wrong
[08:39] <skalpel> i have always heard it is very unsafe to irc as root
[08:39] <wizo> skalpel: the problem is i cant
[08:39] <skalpel> k
[08:39] <psychonate> cyphase, better than say XviD or DivX?
[08:39] <eknowledg> but what is the reasoning behind that?
[08:39] <wizo> skalpel: i am now unable to see the ubuntu login screen
[08:39] <skalpel> im not actually with ubuntu support, i am just passing advice along
[08:39] <wizo> yeh i know
[08:39] <wizo> =)
[08:39] <skalpel> wizo: use ctrl +alt +1
[08:39] <skalpel> to switch to a terminal screen
[08:39] <skalpel> then login and irc from there
[08:39] <wizo> i installed nvidia drivers, now im stuck
[08:39] <skalpel> as your username
[08:39] <wizo> ok
[08:39] <wizo> brb
[08:39] <wizo> exit
[08:39] <wizo> oops
[08:39] <skalpel> eknowledg: i am not sure.
[08:40] <skalpel> eknowledg: am i wrong?
[08:40] <patrickj> I think its doing mp3 encoding and ogg file extension :/
[08:40] <b|ackwo|f> the stuff in the wiki
[08:40] <b|ackwo|f> is that the only dell systems they work w/ thats confirmed?
[08:40] <patrickj> the encoder is oggenc
[08:40] <reka> skalpel: http://freshmeat.net
[08:40] <skalpel> k
[08:41] <dabaR> skalpel: noone is with ubuntu support, pretty much,...
[08:41] <wizo> ok back, the ctrl alt 1 doesnt work
[08:41] <skalpel> dabar: ok, i feel better than
[08:41] <skalpel> then
[08:41] <dabaR> skalpel: alt+ctrl+fN
[08:41] <dabaR> not just N
[08:42] <wizo> its not working =(
[08:42] <IceDC571> does anyone use sound juicer to rip to flac?
[08:42] <skalpel> you should be able to do it now actually
[08:42] <wizo> i cant =(
[08:42] <psychonate> hmm, I don't think this subtitle is a subtitle heh; 'file' reports: "MPEG ADTS, layer I, v1,  96 kBits, 44.1 kHz, Stereo"
[08:42] <psychonate> sounds like audio :(
[08:42] <wizo> used to work
[08:42] <dabaR> b|ackwo|f: I dont think so, google for more info on your lappy, find out exact hardware models inside it tho.
[08:42] <j2dope> hi. what's a reccomend voice chat app for ubuntu? i can't find skype in synaptic
[08:42] <dabaR> wizo: that would be very strrange, you sure?
[08:42] <wizo> yes =(
[08:42] <patrickj> j2dope: you have to add extra repos
[08:43] <patrickj> I got skype ionstalled
[08:43] <dabaR> IceDC571: mine ripped to ogg the other day.
[08:43] <patrickj> but I dont have a mic :/
[08:43] <wizo> ctrl alt F2  etc etc
[08:43] <cyphase> psychonate, i haven't really compared them to much
[08:43] <j2dope> i have. any idea which one its in?
[08:43] <cyphase> but it seems to be
[08:43] <j2dope> i did a search for 'skype
[08:43] <skalpel> wizo: sorry, my incorrect advice
[08:43] <skalpel> function keys, yes. =)
[08:43] <IcE-bOy> hi
[08:43] <dabaR> skype is on their site too, and on the ubuntuguide.
[08:43] <eknowledg> what does "fatal server error" "no screens found" mean?
[08:43] <wizo> now i cant even switch and use irssi to try and solve this darn error
[08:43] <cyphase> Anyone know of a utility for extracting a sound byte from an avi file?
[08:43] <patrickj> j2dope: www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:43] <IcE-bOy> i have a problem with ubuntu .. udev doesn't starts, i can read at boot "udev requires tmpfs support"
[08:43] <poningru> dont use skype its not free
[08:44] <patrickj> extra repos, and Skype installation is in there ;)
[08:44] <wizo> skype is free, only for comp to comp
[08:44] <IcE-bOy> but i have tmpfs support, i have it in fstab
[08:44] <poningru> um I meant faif
[08:44] <MrGardenHoseMan> is it possible to temporarily unload a driver
[08:44] <poningru> freedom
[08:44] <poningru> freedom damn it
[08:44] <Madpilot> j2dope: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto
[08:44] <dabaR> wizo: http://www.us.debian.org/intro/free
[08:44] <wizo> ok anyway, as i expected, i got a blank screen again after installing the drivers
[08:44] <wizo> ??
[08:44] <MrGardenHoseMan> untill another reboot or something like that
[08:44] <dabaR> Madpilot: (Y)
[08:44] <eknowledg> waiittt....could be trying to install wine have anything to do with X not starting?
[08:44] <j2dope> thanks guys
[08:45] <wizo> dabaR: giving me a link now would be futile
[08:45] <Madpilot> dabaR: huh?
[08:45] <psychonate> alright, well I think I will go indulge in some spaghetti western fun
[08:45] <skalpel> wizohi, i am having alot of problems with music skipping and slowdown on my desktop when playing music in rhythmbox
[08:45] <skalpel> does anyone know why?
[08:45] <dabaR> wizo: I guess.:)
[08:45] <dabaR> or, :(
[08:45] <stevenj> has anyone successfully installed adblock using the official ubuntu firefox 1.0.6?
[08:45] <reka> skalpel: local files, or off CD/DVD?
[08:45] <wizo> i`ll go try and access my xorg files
[08:45] <rob^> Why does synaptic list packages under different catagories then packages.ubuntu.com does?
[08:46] <dabaR> Many people new to free software find themselves confused because the word "free" in the term "free software" is not used the way they expect. To them free means "at no cost". An English dictionary lists almost twenty different meanings for "free". Only one of them is "at no cost". The rest refer to liberty and lack of constraint. When we speak of Free Software, we mean freedom, not price.
[08:46] <wizo> btw before i go, wads the thing to start the xorg server
[08:46] <skalpel> reka: local files.
[08:46] <IcE-bOy> nautilus always says me that i have to insert an empty media, i have tried with a lot of cds ... always the same message, and the record hardware works well, what could happend ?
[08:46] <reka> skalpel: system specs?
[08:46] <rob^> what?
[08:47] <eknowledg> someone PLEASE help me with getting X to start whenever they have free time...
[08:47] <rob^> stevenj, yes
[08:47] <skalpel> reka: emachine t3882 with intel extreme graphics2 3d integrated
[08:47] <wizo> wads the command to start the xorg server
[08:47] <skalpel> reka: i can play these files in xp and have no such trouble.
[08:47] <eknowledg> starx
[08:47] <reka> skalpel: RAM?
[08:47] <eknowledg> startx**
[08:47] <skalpel> reka: 256 mb
[08:47] <wizo> startx** ?
[08:47] <eknowledg> wizo startx
[08:47] <dabaR> just startx
[08:47] <eknowledg> no *
[08:47] <wizo> ok thx
[08:47] <eknowledg> sure
[08:47] <dabaR> look, wizo, it likely wont work tho.
[08:47] <wizo> y not?
[08:47] <dabaR> I mean, I dont know much...
[08:47] <reka> skalpel: it might be a sound config quirk ... are you against trying a different player?
[08:48] <dabaR> try, I guess, I cant give any advice, sorry.
[08:48] <wizo> skalpel: try alsa
[08:48] <wizo> cya guys =(
[08:48] <dabaR> cya, good luck.
[08:48] <skalpel> reka: no i am actually for it. i tried to use amarok but it is not compatible with the esd sound engine, supposedly.
[08:48] <eknowledg> sooner than you think
[08:48] <skalpel> wizo: ok
[08:48] <skalpel> reka: i dont like xmms either
[08:48] <reka> skalpel: oh, i was gonna recommend beep-media-player :)
[08:48] <dabaR> Madpilot: (Y) is a thumbs up in msn icons...good link above from the wiki, rather than the guide.
[08:48] <rob^> skalpel, have you tried bpm?
[08:48] <skalpel> i will try it
[08:48] <skalpel> is it in synaptic?
[08:48] <patrickj> bmp is the vest
[08:48] <reka> skalpel: it's an xmms clone
[08:48] <rob^> skalpel, gtk2 interface xmms
[08:49] <patrickj> skalpel: i think so
[08:49] <rob^> reka, its not a clone, its a fork
[08:49] <dabaR> rob^: beep-player-media?
[08:49] <evo> Anyone else have the problem where when you plug in a usb pen drive it mounts the whole device rather (/dev/sda) than the 1st partition (/dev/sda1)??
[08:49] <rob^> yes
[08:49] <skalpel> i prefer a WMP type ui
[08:49] <Madpilot> dabaR: ah, OK. thanks!
[08:49] <skalpel> i dont like winamp/xmms
[08:49] <MrGardenHoseMan> anyone know how to unload a driver?
[08:49] <reka> rob^: i stand corrected
[08:49] <skalpel> because i am at 1280x1024 and the window is too small
[08:49] <rob^> skalpel, tried rhythmbox?
[08:49] <skalpel> i am using rhythmbox, that is where the trouble lies
[08:50] <rob^> whats the problem?
[08:50] <skalpel> interference with the video
[08:50] <skalpel> choppyness
[08:50] <skalpel> music skipping
[08:50] <wizo> ok great, i tried to access /etc/x11/xorg.conf but the folder doesnt seem to exist
[08:50] <rob^> video an rhythmbox?
[08:50] <skalpel> i changed my video driver but it has not helped that
[08:50] <wizo> skalpel: try using VLC
[08:50] <rob^> use totem-xine for video
[08:50] <wizo> is it X11 or x11?
[08:50] <dabaR> rob^: beep-media-player.
[08:50] <rob^> does use gstreamer, nice and fast
[08:50] <eknowledg> X11
[08:50] <eknowledg> I believe
[08:51] <dabaR> X
[08:51] <rob^> oops
[08:51] <rob^> doesn't
[08:51] <patrickj> hey, if I so happen to have some old mp3 on cd, how can I convert them to ogg?
[08:51] <wizo> ok im an idiot
[08:51] <rob^> I ment
[08:51] <dabaR> no youre not.
[08:51] <poningru> patrickj: audacity
[08:51] <skalpel> yeah like when i load a web browser i get tiny excerpts of music i already stopped playing in rhythmbox, it is terrible
[08:51] <patrickj> poningru: what about mp32ogg?
[08:51] <poningru> havent used it
[08:51] <poningru> so no clue
[08:51] <stevenj> rob^, thanks
[08:51] <NicP> if i use ctrl-alt-f6 to get a new terminal window
[08:52] <rob^> skalpel, have you filed a bug?
[08:52] <NicP> how can i start an x session in that window?
[08:52] <rob^> skalpel, that doesn't sound rigt
[08:52] <dabaR> NicP: tried Apps>SystemTools>NewLogin, for f8?
[08:52] <rob^> right ^
[08:52] <NicP> startx gives me an error that i already have x running on that display
[08:52] <rob^> man I'm tired
[08:53] <skalpel> it is not right
[08:53] <skalpel> how do i order a bugreport for it?
[08:53] <NicP> dabaR, thanks
[08:53] <rob^> !bugs
[08:53] <skalpel> and how soon does that usually fix the problem?
[08:53] <dabaR> NicP: ya... skalpel get the waiter
[08:53] <rob^> umm.. hello ubotu!
[08:53] <skalpel> i thought so. it would be nice to listen to music now. =)
[08:53] <rob^> skalpel, might be fixed in breezy
[08:54] <dabaR> he is alive, rob^
[08:54] <rob^> skalpel, depends how bad they consider it
[08:54] <skalpel> i dont really want to re-install either
[08:54] <eknowledg> is there a web browser for term?
[08:54] <patrickj> poninguru: thanks, it works :d
[08:54] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[08:54] <ubotu> I heard ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu!
[08:54] <dabaR>  /msg ubotu bug
[08:54] <rob^> ah there he is
[08:54] <rob^> just ignoring me
[08:54] <Tommo> Hi, im trying to install a program written in pthyon and i get this error,    error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Mak efile (No such file or directory)
[08:54] <Madpilot> heh. earlier this week ubotu would only talk to me via /msg
[08:55] <Madpilot> which made using it on this channel a bit hard...
[08:55] <skalpel> * obotu :No such nick/channel
[08:55] <cyphase> How do I pipe sound output into a file?
[08:55] <rob^> !bugzilla
[08:55] <ubotu> methinks bugzilla is https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[08:55] <skalpel> k
[08:55] <dabaR> rob^: just bug works too.
[08:55] <patrickj> why is ripping music sooo sloooooooooooow
[08:55] <skalpel> yeah i get problems with the mouse too when i am loading web browsers
[08:55] <ondrej> mm all
[08:55] <j2dope> back again.. what's a reccomend pod cast program for ubuntu?
[08:55] <dabaR> NicP: another thing.
[08:55] <eknowledg> so anyone know a web browser for terminal?
[08:55] <rob^> dabaR, yeah, he doesn't like me though :)
[08:55] <skalpel> my video seems fucked up unilaterally
[08:55] <skalpel> whereas it was not under windows
[08:55] <patrickj> ! pastebin
[08:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[08:55] <ondrej> anybody from ShipIt team here?
[08:55] <rob^> j2dope, ipodder
[08:55] <skalpel> it is the one problem i am having with ubuntu right now
[08:56] <patrickj> sorry just needed to test my theory
[08:56] <Tommo> what do i do?
[08:56] <patrickj> :d
[08:56] <patrickj> the the stupid gentoo channel is ? pastebin
[08:56] <cyphase> j2dope, bashpodder is a simple command line podcatcher
[08:56] <cyphase> and i'm working on one
[08:56] <dabaR> patrickj: speed is realative to the person observing it.
[08:56] <dabaR> ow, were you not that fast...
[08:56] <Madpilot> there's an error in ubotu's !bugzilla entry... bad URL, should be "http", not "https"
[08:56] <dabaR> n
[08:56] <rob^> Madpilot, either works for some reason
[08:57] <dabaR> Madpilot: change it
[08:57] <patrickj> is there any way I can mass convert music, like 100 files at a time?
[08:57] <Madpilot> correcting now...
[08:57] <dabaR> NicP: check out xnest, you can install it with sudo aptitude install xnest, it allows for a window with a new login. works faster than newLogin
[08:57] <Madpilot> !bugzilla
[08:57] <ubotu> bugzilla is probably http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[08:57] <wizo> lolx guys, i got back into my account
[08:57] <wizo> =D
[08:57] <patrickj> or at least 20?
[08:57] <dabaR> Madpilot: msg the bot
[08:58] <dabaR> wizo: no way!
[08:58] <eknowledg> wizo got into X?
[08:58] <wizo> yeh
[08:58] <dabaR> hehe, nice.
[08:58] <j2dope> rob^, is ipodder in synaptic?
[08:58] <eknowledg> cool so you could look up something for me?
[08:58] <eknowledg> lol
[08:58] <skalpel> computer_guru: are you there?
[08:58] <wizo> i changed smth from NVIDIA11 or smth to a humble nv in the xorc.conf file
[08:58] <j2dope> i dont have an ipod, i have a Creative Zen Micro.
[08:58] <wizo> xorg.conf file
[08:58] <dabaR> skalpel: what was it again?
[08:59] <eknowledg> anyone know what the webbrowser is called for terminal?
[08:59] <wizo> but now i cant run glxgears
[08:59] <wizo> eknowledg: lynx?
[08:59] <anacron> eknowledg: lynx or links2
[08:59] <wizo> but i doubt ubuntu has it
[08:59] <eknowledg> wizo !...you're the shhh....
[08:59] <parabolize> eknowledg, or w3m...
[08:59] <eknowledg> what's best?
[09:00] <rob^> eknowledg, lynx
[09:00] <parabolize> I like links2
[09:00] <eknowledg> I need web...but have no X
[09:00] <dabaR> good luck with a cli browser:)
[09:00] <rob^> dabaR, they are not that bad
[09:00] <patrickj> eknowledg: try $ sudo apt-get install links
[09:00] <cyphase> How do I pipe sound output into a file?
[09:01] <skalpel> dabar: i am having serious video slow down when i play music in rhythmbox
[09:01] <dabaR> rob^: sure, I just wish I knew how to use it...
[09:01] <patrickj> its the best text baed browser
[09:01] <skalpel> when i play mp3's
[09:01] <wizo> how do i see wad video driver im using?
[09:01] <dabaR> well, I guess I would know if need come...
[09:01] <mebaran151> hey neato
[09:01] <Madpilot> I still use Lynx a few times a year... it's interesting!
[09:01] <skalpel> it interferes mostly with firefox
[09:01] <mebaran151> I can encode a Fellini film
[09:01] <patrickj> skalpel: dont play music in rythm box then
[09:01] <dabaR> video slow down what?
[09:01] <mebaran151> in only 600 kbps
[09:01] <parabolize> eknowledg, w3m is installed by default I think
[09:01] <mebaran151> original quality
[09:01] <dabaR> like, everything slows down?
[09:01] <skalpel> if i open a web browser my mouse gets choppy and computer slows down and acts sluggish
[09:01] <mebaran151> the power of black on white
[09:01] <rob^> skalpel, are you trying to play mp3s and videos at the same time?
[09:01] <dabaR> skalpel: why niot use something else?
[09:01] <skalpel> patrickj: i have not found another music player that will work for me
[09:02] <skalpel> rob^: no i am not
[09:02] <mebaran151> skalpel, try muine or xmms
[09:02] <dabaR> xmms will after you change something...
[09:02] <mebaran151> or beep-media-player
[09:02] <rob^> so how can you get slow down?
[09:02] <skalpel> dabar: i would like to find something else that works but have been unable yo
[09:02] <skalpel> xmms is too tiny for me to even see
[09:02] <dabaR> sudo aptitude install xmms
[09:02] <dabaR> ah
[09:02] <dabaR> :)
[09:02] <skalpel> i have xmms installed
[09:02] <rob^> skalpel dabar: i am having serious video slow down when i play music in rhythmbox
[09:02] <skalpel> i will try it
[09:02] <dabaR> there is double size mode.
[09:02] <dabaR> let me see
[09:03] <rob^> that doesn't make sense
[09:03] <skalpel> ok, so it is not video slowdown.
[09:03] <wizo> i have a video slowdown too
[09:03] <dabaR> skalpel: open xmms
[09:03] <skalpel> it is a memory problem. i am no computer expert so you will have to bear with me
[09:03] <skalpel> k
[09:03] <dabaR> ctrl+d doubles the size
[09:03] <dabaR> try
[09:03] <skalpel> which is hideous
[09:03] <skalpel> i may have to compromise it looks like
[09:03] <rob^> skalpel, what type of PC do you have (hardware)?
[09:04] <skalpel> rob^: an emachine intel deleron d 335 with 256 mb memory
[09:04] <dabaR> afk
[09:04] <patrickj> but, is there a way to mass convert my music?
[09:04] <IceDC571> holy crap.. ubuntu is way behind on the gtkpod version
[09:04] <skalpel> i do not have this problem with windows xp, just ubuntu
[09:04] <rob^> skalpel, thats half your problem
[09:04] <rob^> skalpel, try not to use anything with gstreamer
[09:04] <rob^> ie
[09:04] <rob^> use totem-xine for video
[09:04] <rob^> and xmms for music
[09:04] <skalpel> and for music?
[09:04] <skalpel> ugh. xmms is so ugly, i hate the ui
[09:05] <Morti> Change the skin hten. ;
[09:05] <Morti> *then
[09:05] <skalpel> besides i cannot make xmms load music.
[09:05] <Morti> *;)
[09:05] <rob^> skalpel, well upgrade your pc then
[09:05] <skalpel> it is not a problem with my pc because i do not have this problem in windows.
[09:05] <Morti> beep-media-player is cool. XMMS but nicer.
[09:05] <skalpel> xmms just hung on me.
[09:06] <patrickj> skalpel: so get beep-media-player
[09:06] <patrickj> skalpel: I use bmp, and LOVE it
[09:06] <skalpel> alright i will try it
[09:06] <skalpel> it is in synaptic?
[09:07] <patrickj> one sec
[09:07] <mebaran151> skalpel, bmp is nice
[09:07] <mebaran151> gtk2 and eerything
[09:07] <patrickj> also, have yiou downloaded all the media codecs?
[09:07] <dabaR> skalpel: change the dafauklt output plugin to esound
[09:07] <patrickj> skalpel: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[09:08] <dabaR> rigth click, Options, Preferences...
[09:08] <patrickj> skalpel: follow those steps
[09:08] <skalpel> yeah my computer is even slowing down now when i move the mouse around. i was thinking it has something to do with virtual windows or an app i have open, but it is definately on the desktop
[09:08] <dabaR> Output plugin>Esound
[09:08] <patrickj> then $ sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[09:08] <skalpel> dabar: how do i do that?
[09:08] <dabaR> patrickj: no, why add repos...
[09:08] <parabolize> I think the problem is your video driver. even if the comp works in windows.
[09:08] <skalpel> it must be the driver, i switched from the default driver to vesa on the advice of someone in here
[09:09] <skalpel> it also slows down extensively when i have terminal windows open, like i am loading down the video memory but i know i am not.
[09:09] <IceDC571> is it just me or is sourceforge not working?
[09:09] <patrickj> dabaR: is bmp in the repos without em?
[09:09] <patrickj> dabaR: and its also handy for extra software
[09:09] <parabolize> integrated video just doesn't do well in linux.
[09:09] <salil> help me
[09:09] <skalpel> i hate to hear that
[09:09] <skalpel> i do not want to switch back to windows
[09:09] <skalpel> everything is better here
[09:10] <salil> someone .. help me
[09:10] <parabolize> skalpel, got a agp slot?
[09:10] <dabaR> skalpel: there is an explanation on how to set up xmms to play above, with the right click.......
[09:10] <skalpel> parabolize: i do not know but i am not looking to change my hardware currently, i would switch back to xp first
[09:10] <dabaR> salil: I help you at this  moment.
[09:10] <skalpel> dabar: thank you sir
[09:11] <dabaR> salil: stating what the problem is would help me helping you.
[09:11] <dabaR> sir is lame. But, ok, welcome.
[09:11] <salil> my ubuntu computer doesnot connect to internet properly..
[09:11] <salil> i have an external modem.. 56K..
[09:11] <salil> the modem doesnot respond properly.. and  does not connect..
[09:11] <jeremias> salil: get a better connection
[09:11] <dabaR> salil: call a museum...;)
[09:12] <salil> when it does connect.. its very very slow.. or . no data is transferred at all
[09:12] <skalpel> i want to do it and put butter all over you lovebug
[09:12] <dabaR> they may want that...haha, I am evil.
[09:12] <patrickj> goodnight errybody
[09:12] <dabaR> skalpel: wrong channel.
[09:12] <dabaR> patrickj: cya
[09:12] <dabaR> lol@skalpel^^
[09:12] <Madpilot> um... skalpel, wrong channel or something? :)
[09:12] <skalpel> dabar: actually that is an aim window, i am chatting with my gf =)
[09:12] <salil> i can't get a better connection..
[09:12] <mebaran151> skalpel, sure .....
[09:12] <skalpel> i am so embarassed now
[09:12] <mebaran151> sure .....
[09:13] <skalpel> hahaha
[09:13] <salil> there's no better connection here..
[09:13] <skalpel> i told her what happened, and what you all think
[09:13] <mebaran151> sure ....
[09:13] <skalpel> and how nothing will ever change it, which is true
[09:13] <skalpel> so i should just accept the fact that you all think i am cybering now
[09:13] <skalpel> haha
[09:13] <dabaR> skalpel: cool, man, no worries.
[09:13] <skalpel> i hope i can still get ubuntu suppoirt
[09:13] <skalpel> haha
[09:13] <salil> my windows pc works just fine.. but .ubuntu pc is giving me problems..
[09:13] <mebaran151> will shall remember you FOREVER for your ... insidious ways
[09:13] <Madpilot> have fun... just don't share any more with us, please...
[09:13] <skalpel> k
[09:13] <salil> can you please help me
[09:14] <kokoko1> hi
[09:14] <kokoko1> anyone using kubuntu?
[09:14] <dabaR> #kubuntu
[09:14] <knowledge_> Yeap...I DID manage to get X working all by myself...and I'm very proud of myself
[09:15] <salil> hey.. guys.. please help me
[09:15] <dabaR> salil: I wish I knew how.
[09:15] <parabolize> kokoko1, they have there own channel. ;-)
[09:15] <skalpel> so no more ideas on my video driver and massive memory slowdown huh?
[09:15] <salil> okay..
[09:15] <knowledge_> dabaR, haha
[09:15] <knowledge_> salil, ask mann
[09:15] <dabaR> skalpel: got xmms working at al?
[09:16] <kokoko1> okay
[09:16] <dabaR> skalpel: not about the driver, but I can give you some ideas about the butter stuff...
[09:16] <salil> hey.. and what do you have to do to listen to mp3..??
[09:16] <Madpilot> !mp3
[09:16] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:16] <Madpilot> salil: see the URL that ubotu just posted
[09:16] <mebaran151> ubotu, we are so proud
[09:16] <ubotu> mebaran151: okay
[09:16] <salil> does the music player that comes with the os..??
[09:16] <dabaR> knowledge_: he ashed...
[09:16] <lhb> ubotu is a genius
[09:16] <ubotu> lhb: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:16] <light_punch2> how can i set 3 logon attempts for each users?  if they try more that 3, system will lock them out.
[09:17] <knowledge_> dabaR, very true
[09:17] <dabaR> see, lhb that is what makes a great mind, modesty...
[09:17] <dabaR> knowledge_: he asked...
[09:17] <skalpel> dabar: i am actually ok on the gf thing
[09:17] <skalpel> i wish computers were as easy as girls
[09:17] <Madpilot> salil: the music players that come with Ubuntu will play mp3, but see that web page for instructions on how
[09:17] <dabaR> its about dialup. not sure abnout stufff
[09:17] <dabaR> skalpel: blasphemy!!!
[09:17] <dabaR> girls are much harder than cvomputers...
[09:17] <lhb> skalpel: mmmm....
[09:18] <salil> okay.. thanks..
[09:18] <skalpel> i will try out xmms now
[09:18] <skalpel> if i can stop laughing
[09:18] <skalpel> haha
[09:18] <dabaR> skalpel: xmms?
[09:18] <dabaR> ok go.
[09:18] <salil> btw.. guys.. girls are damn easy..
[09:18] <salil> nothing like computers
[09:18] <dabaR> ye, me too...
[09:18] <Madpilot> there's no "man girlfriend" or "girlfriend --help"...
[09:18] <Madpilot> :)
[09:18] <dabaR> salil: ya, ok, we know...its us that are not easy, I guess.
[09:18] <salil> ;)
[09:19] <salil> try harder guys.. practise makes one perfect.
[09:19] <dabaR> nono, with me, I am shy, I get lots of girls around me, but I am shy to make the move, anyhow, not realted whatsoever.
[09:19] <b|ackwo|f> lol
[09:19] <skalpel> you have to find a girl who needs sex all the time
[09:20] <skalpel> that is what i did
[09:20] <skalpel> it took me awhile though
[09:20] <skalpel> slightly off topic though
[09:20] <skalpel> hehe
[09:20] <Madpilot> then you start posting about butter...
[09:20] <parabolize> lol
[09:20] <skalpel> anythingto keep it interesting
[09:20] <skalpel> dabar: xmms wont load for some reason, i will probably need to restart
[09:21] <dabaR> hha, he is totally keeping it interesting...
[09:21] <dabaR> restart what?
[09:22] <dabaR> terminal>killall xmms
[09:22] <skalpel> k
[09:23] <aleksi> does anyone have clue why my webserver and ssh server stopped from working if I try connecting with their LAN ip(192.168.1..., but work with my domainname which is routed to server by firewall
[09:23] <skalpel> dabar: grand, it worked. now what was i supposed to do in the rigth click menu?
[09:24] <dabaR> options>props>output plugin(default) esound!
[09:24] <aleksi> this happened after upgrade to hoary
[09:26] <skalpel> i think i am just running too many apps in ubuntu and gnome is hating me for it
[09:26] <skalpel> i believe it is the virtual desktop, as windows has nothing similiar to coplain about, which it would i am sure
[09:27] <dabaR> aleksi: which did?
[09:27] <r2d4> anyone install webmin on ubuntu? I installed the package. started it with /etc/init.d/webmin start. But nothings on https://localhost:10000
[09:28] <gm78> r2d4, instead of doing localhost, try your ip address (the one your router assigns you)
[09:28] <Madpilot> r2d4: what about just "http://localhost" instead of "https"?
[09:28] <gm78> Madpilot, it needs to be https://
[09:29] <frank> r2d4: webmin also has the problem of only giving access to root, who has no password.
[09:29] <r2d4> same. not on http either.
[09:29] <gm78> r2d4, for instance https://<IP_ADDRESS>/10000
[09:29] <dabaR> skalpel: I dont think you are making much sense, the virtual desktops is nothing. YOu can choose to run something like me, openbox, which is a minimal WM, no desktop, very low mem usage.
[09:29] <gm78> r2d4, did u try the ip address thing?
[09:30] <Madpilot> gm78: ah, ok. not familiar w/ webmin, but I do run apache...
[09:30] <r2d4> gm78: trying
[09:30] <skalpel> well if you say virtual desktops is nothing then i believe you, because i think i have used them in litestep with windows and never had such a problem, it must be something else
[09:30] <parabolize> openbox is great, I use it, but it is kinda had to make menus in xml...
[09:30] <dabaR> skalpel: xmms playing now?
[09:30] <skalpel> which suggests to me it is a driver thing, or soe software something, or config setting, i just canot fid it
[09:30] <gm78> frank, you can easily set a root passwd in ubuntu
[09:30] <parabolize> skalpel, there is xfce
[09:30] <dabaR> parabolize: actually, it is easy...depending on how much you know about it...
[09:31] <skalpel> parabolize: and how is that?
[09:31] <skalpel> it seems like gnome should work ok
[09:31] <parabolize> dabaR, well if you allready write xml its easy
[09:31] <r2d4> gm78: nope. not working. is this a daemon? should I check somehow if it is running?
[09:31] <dabaR> parabolize: and, how much you are trying to change...I modified it a bit...
[09:31] <dabaR> parabolize: or if you use html, even...
[09:31] <dabaR> I dont write xml, almost at all.
[09:31] <dabaR> I am intelligent, tho...
[09:31] <skalpel> dabar: yes it works now.
[09:31] <gm78> r2d4 by chance do u have port 10000 blocked off with a firewall. that shouldnt affect anything but it might
[09:32] <dabaR> and I had a template
[09:32] <skalpel> i still hate it though
[09:32] <skalpel> =)
[09:32] <dabaR> skalpel: haha
[09:32] <parabolize> dabaR, everything I can! http://users.adelphia.net/~phann8/images/Screenshot2005-06-27.png
[09:32] <dabaR> haha
[09:32] <dabaR> nice
[09:32] <r2d4> gm78: I don't think I have a firewall on this one. But atleast localhost should be clear. no?
[09:32] <parabolize> lots of new hotkeys
[09:33] <dabaR> how do you take that screenshot again?
[09:33] <dabaR> nice
[09:33] <gm78> r2d4, i would assume so. i cant understand why webmin wouldnt be working. did u install it thru apt?
[09:33] <marlijs> Hi, how can I add user foto to user profile?
[09:33] <parabolize> print key will take a screen shot
[09:33] <dabaR> parabolize: I am a new openbox user, you should see mine:)
[09:33] <r2d4> gm78: yes. apt-get
[09:33] <gm78> r2d4, hmmm....it worked fine for me
[09:33] <r2d4> gm78: I did not configure anything.
[09:34] <light_punch2> is there a command like lpstat?
[09:34] <r2d4> gm78: am I supposed to?
[09:34] <light_punch2> for printer status
[09:34] <gm78> r2d4, i dont believe so....i didnt have to if i remember correctly
[09:34] <dabaR> just the print key by itself?
[09:34] <Tribune> hi all
[09:34] <gm78> dabaR, yes, and alt+print will take a screenshot of a single app
[09:35] <dabaR> not working here...in openbox?
[09:35] <Kmorph> Hi guys
[09:35] <Tribune> i'm facing problem of installing several program using apt-get.. can anybody assis me
[09:36] <dabaR> where does it save thhe file? or is it supposed to open a dalog?
[09:36] <AlexMBas> Tribune: what's up?
[09:36] <dabaR> Tribune: give us the errrors, or something...
[09:36] <gm78> dabaR, should open a dialog
[09:36] <dabaR> gm78: ya, that gnoem dialog...
[09:36] <dabaR> hm...
[09:36] <dabaR> Ill open nautilus
[09:36] <dabaR> or somtehing, altho, its open...
[09:36] <dabaR> hm..
[09:36] <Tribune> E: Couldn't find package. what dooes it mean?
[09:36] <dabaR> gnomepanel, maybe.
[09:37] <dabaR> Tribune: means you dont have teh package, which one are you installing?
[09:37] <AlexMBas> maybe wrong package name Tribune
[09:37] <Tribune> i try to sudo apt-get install realplayer. and flashplayer
[09:38] <dabaR> hahaha, I am not using ubuntu, again I am so stupid...
[09:38] <Tribune> i tried to follow ubuntuguide.org
[09:38] <Madpilot> !flash
[09:38] <ubotu> I guess flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:38] <Nermal> Tribune, added all the repositories ?
[09:38] <Madpilot> Tribune: follow the URL that ubotu just posted, instead
[09:38] <Madpilot> !repos
[09:38] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:38] <Tribune> i'm new in linux actually
[09:38] <Nermal> we guessed
[09:38] <dabaR> Madpilot: yeah, both realplayer and flash should be there.
[09:39] <Tribune> previous i just try using knoppix
[09:39] <dabaR> we guessed:)
[09:39] <dabaR> I mean, I am laughing at that statement, not that I guessed.
[09:39] <Tribune> and i find kubuntu very interesting
[09:39] <Nermal> !info flashplugin-nonfre
[09:39] <Nermal> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[09:39] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (hoary), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[09:39] <pax> ubotu forget backports
[09:39] <ubotu> pax: i forgot backports
[09:39] <pax> ubotu Backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:39] <ubotu> pax: okay
[09:39] <asdx> Hoary uses initng or sysvinit?
[09:40] <r2d4> gm78: I ran /usr/share/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf. It returns after a couple of secs. Since this is a non daemonized process, I was expecting it should not. But it does not give me any traceback.
[09:40] <parabolize> Tribune, kubuntu has a channel. #kubuntu
[09:40] <benplaut> the new Inkscape .42 looks pretty sweet
[09:40] <Nermal> Tribune, I would do sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[09:40] <benplaut> too bad it still lacks a decent layers panel...
[09:40] <Nermal> Tribune, you can use apt-cache search <packagename> to find packages
[09:40] <asdx> Hoary uses initng or sysvinit?
[09:40] <Madpilot> anyone here know anything about Apache2? it seems that Ubuntu's apache has a slightly non-standard setup
[09:40] <Nermal> asdx, stop repeating
[09:41] <dabaR> wtf pax, he knew taht already, for one, for two, msg the bot.
[09:42] <benplaut> that's a way to stop repeating :P
[09:42] <holycow> wow
[09:42] <holycow> inkscape 4.2 looks really cool
[09:42] <holycow> it even has some bits adobe doesn't have
[09:42] <dabaR> Holy Cow, It's cool!
[09:42] <Nermal> !info inkscape
[09:42] <ubotu> inkscape: (Vector based drawing program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.40-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 3807 kB, Installed size: 14628 kB
[09:42] <Madpilot> like, it's free?
[09:42] <pax> dabaR: chill out and get some fresh air.
[09:42] <holycow> like a peculiar gradient feature that lets you warp the gradient
[09:42] <Nermal> hmm.. is 0.42 in breezy ?
[09:42] <holycow> dabaR, indeedy!
[09:42] <Tribune> i'm blurr
[09:43] <benplaut> or even .43, maybe
[09:43] <dabaR> pax: he knew it already, but, ya, good advice.
[09:43] <holycow> Nermal, no
[09:43] <benplaut> what is this !info thing?
[09:43] <holycow> oh breezy, *smack*
[09:43] <holycow> never mind
[09:43] <holycow> its too early
[09:43] <Nermal> benplaut, package info ?
[09:43] <pax> dabaR: you said that twice, you want a medal?
[09:43] <benplaut> ohy
[09:43] <benplaut> a bot?
[09:43] <holycow> http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.42-CVS-effects.png  <-- this looks wicked
[09:43] <Nermal> aye
[09:43] <dabaR> pax: ya, got one?
[09:43] <skalpel> what directory do i find xmms in?
[09:44] <dabaR> skalpel: why is that?
[09:44] <Tribune> /home/inul # sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[09:44] <Tribune> Reading package lists... Done
[09:44] <Tribune> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:44] <Tribune> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[09:44] <Nermal> "In this version the development community closed 404 bugs, some quite serious, and 165 feature requests."
[09:44] <benplaut> !info xterminal
[09:44] <ubotu> xterminal: (The Terminal emulator application), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.2.4-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 714 kB, Installed size: 1636 kB
[09:44] <Nermal> Tribune, add the extra repositories
[09:44] <Nermal> as stated before
[09:44] <parabolize> skalpel, type locate xmms in a term
[09:44] <dabaR> !msg the bot
[09:44] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, msg the bot is please use /msg ubotu to play with the bot, the channel does not benefit much from your fun. Sorry.
[09:44] <benplaut> so... why does it put it as under someone's name?
[09:44] <skalpel> dabar: i want to change the skin i am using to something less hideous
[09:44] <Madpilot> benplaut: the !info thing is one of ubotu's features
[09:44] <Tribune> how to add?
[09:44] <benplaut> oh
[09:44] <Nermal> !repos
[09:44] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:45] <dabaR> skalpel: well, you dont need the folder.
[09:45] <benplaut> ubotu is a bot...
[09:45] <ubotu> Wish i knew, benplaut
[09:45] <Nermal> Tribune, see that url
[09:45] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[09:45] <ubotu> ubotu is, like, uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu!
[09:45] <holycow> *ooo* align tool is neat, take THAT adobe!
[09:45] <holycow> :)
[09:45] <skalpel> dabar: how do i change the skin? i downloaded one to my home dir and want to try it out
[09:45] <dabaR> just a sec
[09:45] <benplaut> rgr... i've heard that answer before
[09:45] <skalpel> is there nobody in here who has had success making amarok work under gnome?
[09:45] <Tribune> brb
[09:45] <Burgundavia> skalpel, there is a page about it
[09:45] <skalpel> oh? awesome.
[09:45] <skalpel> do you know where?
[09:45] <dabaR> skalpel: um, right click, options>Skin browser, same as winamp more/less
[09:45] <Burgundavia> skalpel, wiki.ubuntu.com/Amarok
[09:45] <Madpilot> the "Lindenmayer" think in inkscape is some sort of fractal generator, right?
[09:46] <skalpel> dabar: it did not come up in the skin browser though
[09:46] <dabaR> Burgundavia: you maintain the wiki?
[09:46] <skalpel> burgundavia: thank you
[09:46] <Burgundavia> dabaR, along with the rest of the DocTeam
[09:46] <dabaR> skalpel: put the skin file/folder in ~/.skins, I think that should works.
[09:46] <dabaR> no
[09:46] <holycow> http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.42-CVS-trace-color.png   <-- whoa, that has to be the neatest trace tool i have ever seen
[09:47] <holycow> vector trace tool even
[09:47] <skalpel> dabar: i cannot make those hidden dirs  show up in file browser
[09:47] <Burgundavia> skalpel, ctrl-h
[09:47] <skalpel> dabar: what is the command for copying files
[09:47] <skalpel> k thank you
[09:47] <benplaut> holycow: agreed
[09:47] <dabaR> holycow: also the first one I ever saw...
[09:48] <holycow> dabaR, ehe :) i've used variations in flash for ages, but with varying results
[09:48] <skalpel> ubuntu support is awesome
[09:48] <skalpel> i could cry inside
[09:48] <holycow> :)
[09:48] <skalpel> hehe
[09:48] <feugan3333> Hi all. Is there any reason why /var/www is owned by root and not the www-data user?
[09:48] <skalpel> thank you sir
[09:48] <skalpel> very kind
[09:49] <dabaR> feugan3333: dont let www-data own anything.
[09:49] <holycow> http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/  <-- anyway peek here obviously, man, there are a ton of features i have never ever seen in there
[09:49] <holycow> or properties of certain features
[09:49] <holycow> woooooooow
[09:49] <wolverian> feugan3333, if an attacker gets access to the www-data user, he could overwrite those files
[09:49] <holycow> someone has had their thinking cap on, who knew vector illustration could actually be cool?
[09:50] <casco> can anyone help? need a p2p program for linux, amule aint working.
[09:50] <Madpilot> feugan3333: you can always chown your www file - but this is probably NOT recommended for an actual server
[09:50] <dabaR> feugan3333: he is not to own anything, cause he can be compromised, whatever wahtever, bla bla,. just make the files under /var/www readable to all, folders read+exec to all
[09:50] <wolverian> casco, nicotine is a pretty nice soulseek client
[09:50] <Madpilot> my Apache install is strictly localhost only...
[09:50] <holycow> they should like patent all these new features, i'd like to see adobe come crying to the table
[09:50] <feugan3333> dataR: I want to create a log from a cgi executable and need a place to where apache can create files
[09:51] <dabaR> feugan3333: ask on #debian, I dont think you can get an answer for that here, but, please try...
[09:51] <casco> is that in the synaptic package manager?
[09:51] <bob2> don't point people at #debian
[09:51] <benplaut> Tomcat_: are you installing the DEB on that website to .42?
[09:51] <bob2> feugan3333: why doesn't the executable just produce the log itself?
[09:51] <Madpilot> casco: you mean inkscape? yes it is
[09:51] <snowmann> hi
[09:52] <casco> brb
[09:52] <Madpilot> feugan3333: there is an apache channel as well
[09:52] <orange_> hey folks
[09:52] <benplaut> hello
[09:52] <Madpilot> hi
[09:52] <orange_> i'm locked out of my display
[09:52] <dabaR> its an issue that isnt distro specific, but, ya, I guess that was stupid.
[09:52] <orange_> it's rejecting my password, and i know it's correct
[09:52] <orange_> any help?
[09:52] <benplaut> yeah
[09:52] <vinboy> hi guys
[09:52] <benplaut> happens occasionally
[09:52] <feugan3333> bob2: the execubable is creating the file itself, but the cgi script does not run. Permission problems I presume.
[09:52] <vinboy> how do I change my default background color
[09:52] <benplaut> press ctrl+alt+backspace to kill X
[09:53] <orange_> i know how to kill X, i just don't want to :/
[09:53] <feugan3333> Madpilot: I don't think its a apache problem.
[09:53] <benplaut> no way around it that i've found
[09:53] <orange_> damn
[09:53] <orange_> alright, thanks
[09:53] <benplaut> happens somewhere around once a month, and no clue why
[09:53] <orange_> i've never had it happen before
[09:54] <skalpel> burgundavia: after i install the amarok package where do i find it in my gnome menu?
[09:54] <Imsdle> im having trouble setting quasar
[09:54] <orange_> good thing for irssi, heh
[09:54] <bob2> it won't appear in the gnome menu
[09:54] <Imsdle> ^Xroot@melissa:/opt/firebird # sudo /opt/quasar/bin/quasar_setup
[09:54] <Imsdle> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[09:54] <Imsdle> Segmentation fault
[09:54] <Burgundavia> skallen, should be under sound&video
[09:54] <orange_> i'm off to restart X then.  thanks
[09:54] <bob2> Imsdle: don't login as root, of course
[09:54] <Tomcat_> benplaut: Nah, I just installed the Ubuntu package via synaptic.
[09:54] <dabaR> night. vinboy SYstem>Prefs>Desktop bg/.
[09:54] <bob2> Imsdle: sudo /opt/quasar/bin/quasar_setup, as your regular user
[09:54] <benplaut> Tomcat_: old, but it works :(
[09:54] <Imsdle> oh thanks bob2
[09:55] <Madpilot> seriously cool: http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.41-CVS-linux-tiles1.png
[09:55] <bob2> if you're logging in as root, you've done something wrong
[09:55] <benplaut> hmm
[09:56] <benplaut> i notice the "PLEASE PLEASE" has been taken out from "DO NOT USE BREEZY YET"  ;)
[09:56] <Burgundavia> benplaut, space requirements
[09:56] <benplaut> oh
[09:56] <Burgundavia> needed to fit the backports stuff in
[09:56] <Madpilot> they had to squeeze the 'firefox is busted' notice iin there somewhere
[09:57] <benplaut> and how to fix it...
[09:57] <Madpilot> how to fix Firefox: www.opera.com/download
[09:57] <Madpilot> ;)
[09:58] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, please don't recommend non-free software here
[09:58] <Tomcat_> benplaut: I have never seen Inkscape, but it looks awesome... much better than GIMP for drawing. Even that old version. ;)
[09:58] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: <insert rude noise here> ;)
[09:59] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, your my brother, I can beat you up all I want
[09:59] <Madpilot> Tomcat_: inkscape & gimp are for different things.
[09:59] <Tomcat_> Yeah, I see that. :)
[09:59] <Tomcat_> One can do Vector Graphics in GIMP too though.
[09:59] <ubuntu_dell> hi there
[09:59] <Tomcat_> But it's much worse to use.
[09:59] <melodie> hello all :)
[09:59] <benplaut> Burgundavia, Madpilot: for real? :S
[10:00] <holycow> tomcat, also gimp is very very powerfull, photoshop is peculiar in the sense that because ever yone uses it, to learn gimp you need to 'deprogram' your self
[10:00] <holycow> it took me two days to actually wrap my mind around having basically the exact same ui, with different shortcuts
[10:00] <Madpilot> benplaut: yeah, we're brothers. Burgundavia converted me to Ubuntu
[10:00] <Tomcat_> holycow: Yeah I've noticed that. :( Used Photoshop for ages.
[10:00] <benplaut> aaahhh
[10:00] <benplaut> interesting
[10:00] <casco> ok, ive installed nicotine, but cant connect, invalid password
[10:00] <casco> (i obviously invented one not knowing what the heck)
[10:01] <holycow> Tomcat_, i think what i found is that gimp is probably TOO CLOSE to pshop for ui, so people are tricked subconciously to expect everything in the same spot
[10:01] <Madpilot> I've had the same problem, GIMP != Photoshop - and I've spent five years learning Photoshop, that's the problem
[10:01] <melodie> do someone know a command in order to know how much RAM and CPU one application uses ?
[10:01] <holycow> except its not, and i think the gimp ui is now better than ps ... for me anyway
[10:01] <blenergetic> hello
[10:01] <Madpilot> holycow: exactly my problem - I keep hitting the PS keys in GIMP...
[10:01] <holycow> Madpilot, right i have greater than 10 years of ps
[10:01] <Burgundavia> benplaut, I do development work in Ubuntu. Madpilot just produces hot air and enjoys not being on XP anymore
[10:01] <benplaut> doesn't gimpshop fix that?
[10:01] <blenergetic> I'm interested in dual booting Ubuntu linux with Winblowz
[10:01] <casco> wolverian, you suggested nicotine, right?
[10:01] <Tomcat_> holycow: I don't have the problem of finding stuff, rather that it's just different in its actions... like that selected areas can be moved without selecting a special tool and stuff.
[10:01] <benplaut> hehe... yup, that works :P
[10:02] <wolverian> casco, yeah
[10:02] <nJess> how do i screenshot in KDE?
[10:02] <nJess> i can't remember for the life of me
[10:02] <Tomcat_> nJess: PrintScreen key?
[10:02] <benplaut> nJess: press printscreen?
[10:02] <casco> wolverian, so what about the password thingy?
[10:02] <nJess> that works?
[10:02] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: no beer for you next time you're over, boy...
[10:02] <holycow> benplaut, partly, but gimpshop is worse for me, it maps like 65% to ps, so your still screwed for mising features, or features not in pshop (yes gimp does things ps doesnt)
[10:02] <benplaut> ahh
[10:02] <melodie> my gui is blocked and I'd like to avoid killing this soft before I know what it uses...
[10:02] <benplaut> i wouldn't know... never used it :P
[10:02] <holycow> Tomcat_, yeah, took a while to learn some of the nuance sthere too
[10:03] <wolverian> casco, just put something there you will remember. it'll register the account on the first use
[10:03] <Madpilot> I've done a little bit of tweaking of gimp's shortcuts, toward PS, but mostly I"m trying to learn the gimp...
[10:03] <casco> wolverian, wierd, i tried it, and it was an "invalid password"
[10:03] <melodie> nobody knows a way ?
[10:03] <wolverian> casco, then your username is taken
[10:03] <holycow> Madpilot, i haveto admit, that i absolutely HAVETO have the zoom and wand shortcuts like ps
[10:03] <Tomcat_> But I've tried some vector graphics stuff in GIMP, and it worked... but it was still awkward to use... whereas inkscape feels quite easy.
[10:03] <nJess> yeah
[10:03] <holycow> everything else i've gotten used to :)
[10:03] <nJess> printscreen doesn't work
[10:03] <salil> hey people... can anyone tell me.. the content of /etc/hosts file..
[10:04] <casco> wolverian, ok, thanx, i'll see what i can do
[10:04] <salil> i accidently delete them
[10:04] <holycow> but zoom? wand? no way, i cant get on without the ps shortcuts
[10:04] <holycow> its very weird
[10:04] <nJess> benplaut, didn't work
[10:04] <Madpilot> holycow: I thought it was odd that gimp doesn't even have the zoom mapped to a key by default...
[10:04] <blenergetic> oui I'll stick with #ubuntu-nun then 0_0
[10:04] <holycow> Madpilot, *nod*
[10:05] <Madpilot> !dualboot
[10:05] <ubotu> hmm... dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[10:05] <Madpilot> blenergetic: see the URL that ubotu just posted, for dual booting info
[10:05] <vinboy> what does Ubuntu uses? ALSA, OSS or eSOUND?
[10:05] <blenergetic> Madpilot, ok
[10:05] <blenergetic> ncie bot :)
[10:05] <blenergetic> !hello
[10:05] <melodie> salil: I can tell you, but I'll have to kill one appli and go back to graphic interface first
[10:05] <ubotu> blenergetic: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:05] <Burgundavia> vinboy, Hoary uses esd
[10:05] <blenergetic> lol
[10:05] <blenergetic> !help
[10:05] <Burgundavia> vinboy, the new development version uses esd with alsa dmix, which solves the esd issue with non-esd applications
[10:05] <blenergetic> how sophisticated
[10:06] <melodie> if you are ok to wait a few minutes...
[10:06] <vinboy> Burgundavia, oh ic. kool
[10:06] <melodie> see you :)
[10:06] <melodie> quit
[10:06] <salil> can't you just see it..??
[10:06] <Rydekull> salil: if you're only using ipv4 this should do: <IP_ADDRESS> <name of machine> localhost
[10:06] <m0ns00n> Hey
[10:06] <orangerange> what's a good console/commandline IRC/chat client for newbies?
[10:07] <m0ns00n> Any repositories for ubunut I don't have, I have: universe, multiverse, backports, extras, main, restricted
[10:07] <salil> what is that <name of machine>..?
[10:07] <parabolize> orangerange, irssi
[10:07] <Tomcat_> I find irssi to be not too bad.
[10:07] <salil> what do i put there..?
[10:07] <Rydekull> salil: your name of your machine?
[10:07] <m0ns00n> need avidemux or transcode
[10:07] <salil> computer's name..??
[10:07] <Tomcat_> But newbies doesn't match with commandline :)
[10:07] <blenergetic> hmm... lets test this
[10:07] <Rydekull> salil: yes
[10:07] <m0ns00n> but I can't find any packages
[10:07] <Rydekull> salil: its hostname
[10:07] <blenergetic> blender can be found at www.blender3d.org
[10:07] <blenergetic> where can i find blender?
[10:07] <salil> ah ha..
[10:07] <salil> thanks..
[10:07] <Rydekull> salil: type hostname in the console and you'll see
[10:07] <blenergetic> aww didn't work ;)
[10:07] <orangerange> oh, i think i already have irssi installed.
[10:07] <salil> and.. what are those.. repositories
[10:07] <parabolize> blenergetic, sudo apt-get install blender
[10:08] <blenergetic> parabolize, no I was testing the bot :P
[10:08] <Madpilot> blenergetic: to talk to ubotu you can use /msg
[10:08] <parabolize> O
[10:08] <blenergetic> says it learns by people saying "x can be found at xxx.org"
[10:08] <blenergetic> aah
[10:08] <orangerange> i don't know how to connect to ubuntu via irssi. what should i write? I wrote "/connect irc.freenode.net" then "/join ubuntu" but i'm getting error messages.
[10:08] <Nermal>  /server irc.freenode.net
[10:08] <Nermal>  /join #ubuntu
[10:08] <Madpilot> ubotu blender is a 3d program that can be found at http://www.blender3d.org
[10:08] <ubotu> okay, Madpilot
[10:09] <Nermal> orangerange, you need the #
[10:09] <orangerange> yes
[10:09] <hyphenated> orangerange: you understand that there aren't any console IRC clients that are appropriate for newbies, don't you?
[10:09] <Rydekull> Nermal: both /connect and /server works mind you :)
[10:09] <Nermal> hyphenated, irssi is a piece of piss
[10:09] <Rydekull> Nermal: preferably he uses /connect
[10:09] <Madpilot> blenergetic: that's how you get ubotu to remember stuff - "ubotu <foo> is <bar>"
[10:09] <Nermal> automatically creates new windows /etc
[10:09] <blenergetic> Madpilot, ok
[10:09] <Rydekull> Nermal: all is after how you've got it tweaked
[10:09] <orangerange> hyphenated, in that case, i'll stick with xchat.
[10:10] <hyphenated> orangerange: don't be afraid to try other ones, but just keep in mind they aren't really suited for people that want a simpler interface
[10:10] <orangerange> using xchat, is there a simple "switch/button" where i can pause/resume the logging/recording of the chatroom conversation?
[10:10] <Rydekull> hmm, not that I think irssi is hard to learn, you just need to know how to look for help :)
[10:10] <nJess> orangerange, no
[10:11] <hyphenated> Rydekull: /help ;-)
[10:11] <Rydekull> hyphenated: and irssi.org :)
[10:11] <Rydekull> hyphenated: and you're good to go :)
[10:11] <orangerange> why is irssi asking me for a password? I don't need a password to enter ubuntu chatroom, do I?
[10:12] <orangerange> in synaptic, i'm getting this message: It is not possible to upgrade all packages.
[10:12] <orangerange> This means that besides the actual upgrade of the packages some further action (such as installing or removing packages) is required. Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation.
[10:12] <Nermal> orangerange, so use dist-upgrade
[10:12] <salil> hey... i want to try the blender 3d program.. but i don't know which one to download..
[10:12] <Nermal> it tells you what to do ffs
[10:12] <Rydekull> orangerange: type /quit, type irssi, type /connect irc.freenode.net, type /join #Ubuntu and you're in :)
[10:12] <orangerange> "The following packages are not upgraded, acroread    wesnoth     wesnoth-data
[10:12] <yong> Ubuntu need to consolidate the information. Wiki, Webforum, IRC, mailing list, blog, ... it looks like a data ocean.
[10:13] <Nermal> yah :)
[10:13] <skalpel> the funny thing is i went to all that trouble to install amarok, and when i got it to work under gnome it turned hideous to me and i do not want it anymore
[10:13] <hyphenated> yong: ok, put it all in the Wiki for us ;-)
[10:13] <parabolize> salil, :) I just said that... sudo apt-get install blender
[10:13] <Nermal> info blender
[10:13] <Nermal> !info blender
[10:13] <skalpel> can someone recommend a good window manager to go with ubuntu?
[10:13] <ubotu> blender: (Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 2.36-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 3716 kB, Installed size: 9568 kB
[10:13] <Tomcat_> yong: I find it very much consolidated... much better than for Debian.
[10:13] <Nermal> salil, sudo apt-get install blender :)
[10:13] <orangerange> 17:14 !irc.freenode.net *** Checking ident
[10:13] <orangerange> 17:14 -!- Irssi: Not connected to server
[10:13] <salil> can you please tell me.. what is that sudo thing..?
[10:13] <salil> and also apt-get.. and all that..?
[10:13] <Tomcat_> yong: In other distros, you have to check hundreds of mailing lists, usenet groups, forums, personal homepages, whatever, through Google... no central place.
[10:13] <Nermal> salil, executes the command as super user (root)
[10:13] <salil> where can i get those documentations..?
[10:14] <salil> ooh
[10:14] <orangerange> irssi said "closing link. not the right password." what's up?
[10:14] <Nermal> salil, apt-get in the tool used to install software in ubuntu
[10:14] <Tomcat_> While Ubuntu is about wiki.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org
[10:14] <Tomcat_> (+ some googling ;))
[10:14] <Nermal> salil, man apt-get and man sudo for information
[10:14] <yong> Tomcat, I feel it's difficult to find a specific issue on this site.
[10:14] <salil> okay
[10:14] <Nermal> you can use apt-cache search <package> to find a package too
[10:14] <salil> my internet in ubuntu is not working.. so i'm using another PC..
[10:15] <salil> can anyone tell me.. how to configure my internet in UBUNTU
[10:15] <gandlaf> Hi
[10:15] <Tomcat_> yong: I usually search the wiki, then the forums, then Google, and if I couldn't find an issue there, there's usually nobody who ever had it. :o
[10:15] <Nermal> salil, depends on what your connection is
[10:15] <yong> Tomcat, really?
[10:15] <blenergetic> !help
[10:15] <konki> AUDIO HELP!! ubuntu mp3 ripper/player?? whats the best?? any comments??
[10:15] <blenergetic> hrmm I think ubotu is borked :(
[10:15] <Nermal> konki, grip ?
[10:15] <orangerange> I got a pdf from http://www.hotspot.ne.jp/en/servicearea/pdf/en_allmap.pdf. I'm having problems accessing it. It's taking up all CPU. Whats' wrong?
[10:15] <Nermal> soundjuicer?
[10:15] <salil> my connection is.. 56K.. i have an external modem..
[10:16] <Nermal> !info soundjuicer
[10:16] <Tomcat_> yong: Are the mailing lists and blogs really that helpful? :o
[10:16] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to switch from gnome to xfce?
[10:16] <orangerange> irssi is asking for my password. help
[10:16] <blenergetic> yeah ubotu is borked ;(
[10:16] <Nermal> salil, hmm.. then you should just be able to plug it in and then go to the network setup in gnome
[10:16] <salil> yes.. i did all that.. but.. the modem does not respond properly..
[10:17] <bob2> orangerange: when asking questions like that, you need to be a lot more specific
[10:17] <konki> Nermal, what about LAME/MPlayer??
[10:17] <salil> and when the modem does respond.. there's no data exchange
[10:17] <Madpilot> !help
[10:17] <Nermal> konki, well. you can use that
[10:17] <bob2> orangerange: how is irssi asking for a password?  what did you do to get it to do that?
[10:17] <Nermal> not as easy though
[10:17] <Nermal> and grip has cddb support
[10:17] <gandlaf> Can anyone help me ? I do first time ubundu installation. and now i have a serious problem. i dont know the root password
[10:17] <Nermal> gandlaf, sigh.. read.. same as user password
[10:17] <Nermal> no root account on ubuntu
[10:17] <Nermal> use sudo
[10:18] <skalpel> hi nermel
[10:18] <gandlaf> realay
[10:18] <konki> Nermal, whats so good about grip?? never heard of it.. does it support mp3pro??
[10:18] <Nermal> konki, dunno.. install and find out
[10:18] <melodie> hello, is there still someone who wants a /etc/hosts file content ?
[10:18] <salil> me me..
[10:18] <skalpel> what is grip?
[10:18] <salil> yea.. i wanted that..
[10:18] <melodie> ok
[10:18] <Nermal> !info grip
[10:18] <ubotu> grip: (GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 3.2.0-3ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 429 kB, Installed size: 1204 kB
[10:18] <melodie> salil:
[10:18] <salil> yes.. mdlodie
[10:18] <melodie> my name machine is papillon
[10:18] <orangerange> can anybody help me use irssi to access ubuntu chatroom. The errors i got are found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/788
[10:18] <salil> sorry
[10:18] <salil> melodie
[10:18] <melodie> so it appears in the content
[10:18] <skalpel> how do i change my hostname?
[10:18] <yong> Tomcat, I have a problem about TOSHIBA TE2000 laptop which cannot restart from Linux - when it restarts, it fall asleep ;) so I have to press the power button. It is too boring when switch to Windows. can you search this ?
[10:19] <melodie> so you will have to replace it
[10:19] <Nermal> skallen, hostname <hostname>
[10:19] <orangerange> bob2, please refer to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/788
[10:19] <skalpel> nermal: that has not worked for me, for some reason.
[10:19] <melodie> with the name of your own machine
[10:19] <melodie> ok ?
[10:19] <skalpel> it stayed 'ubuntu'
[10:19] <salil> no.. but i want the format in which to put.. the ip add. hostname and all that..
[10:19] <yonil> could some1 explain why everytime i open the syntaptic upgrade tool (the red icon at top), it starts by telling me "the following packages will not be upgraded: mozilla-firefox ... mozilla-firefox-gnome support" ?
[10:20] <melodie> I suppose I cannot flood here
[10:20] <konki> Nermal, i just need the smallest mp3 files i can rip.. that all! ok anyways thanks.. gotta do some research about grip..
[10:20] <bob2> orangerange: that looks like you're trying to do something oper-related
[10:20] <orangerange> Anybody with a spare 20 seconds. Please try opening the PDF at http://www.hotspot.ne.jp/en/servicearea/pdf/en_allmap.pdf. I'm having problems accessing it. It's taking up all CPU. Whats' wrong?
[10:20] <Nermal> yonil, because you need to do a dist-upgrade
[10:20] <Nermal> which will install additional packages
[10:20] <orangerange> bob2, oper? operator?
[10:20] <melodie> salil: do you want to connect #meets on the same irc chan to make it fast ?
[10:20] <Nermal> or a "smart upgrade" in synaptic apparently
[10:20] <salil> sure.
[10:20] <salil> how to do that..??
[10:20] <Nermal> morning beezly
[10:20] <yonil> Nermal, hmmm how do i do that ?
[10:21] <konki> Nermal, does grip support SPM or apt-get??
[10:21] <Nermal> yonil, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:21] <Nermal> or there must be a smart upgrade option in synaptic.. I dunno. I've never used it
[10:21] <Nermal> konki, I dunno
[10:21] <yonil> Nermal, that sounds like something that can brake a computer ;P (i dont use synaptic btw)
[10:21] <Nermal> konki, how would grip support apt-get ?
[10:21] <Nermal> yonil, it won't if your on hoary
[10:21] <Nermal> it will tell you what new packages need to be installed
[10:22] <Nermal> probably not many
[10:22] <yonil> ok thanks
[10:22] <Nermal> you're*
[10:22] <konki> Nermal, go to the commandline/terminal and type the command 'apt-get' install grip if it would work...
[10:23] <melodie> salil: as soon as you're connected on #meets I'll past the file
[10:23] <Nermal> konki, sure.. that's why the bot found it
[10:23] <Nermal> you'll need universe enabled
[10:23] <melodie> plse don't make it too long cause I've plenty to do :)
[10:23] <salil> how do i connect to #meets..??
[10:23] <Nermal> salil, /join #meets ?
[10:23] <sulkd> offtopic, but.. does anyone know of a really good hosting company that offers dedicated servers?
[10:23] <Nermal> sulkd, rackspace
[10:23] <melodie> same as #ubuntu
[10:24] <melodie> on the same chan
[10:24] <konki> Nermal, ok thanks.. am on the grip website, very nice.. later
[10:24] <Nermal> sulkd, not the cheapest mind
[10:24] <Nermal> konki, :)
[10:24] <melodie> irc.freenode.net 6667
[10:24] <sulkd> Nermal, thanks I'll check them out
[10:24] <ubuntu_dell> "/j #meets" without quote
[10:24] <melodie> with Xchat or with irssi or whatsoever
[10:24] <skalpel> jon@ubuntu:~$ sudo hostname klaus
[10:24] <skalpel> Password:
[10:24] <skalpel> jon@ubuntu:~$
[10:24] <skalpel> how come it does not change instantly?
[10:24] <Nermal> skallen, maybe you need to log out and back in
[10:25] <Nermal> skalpel, just edit /etc/hostname
[10:25] <skalpel> ok
[10:27] <sulkd> Nermal, you are hosted by rackspace?
[10:28] <Burgundavia> sulkd, they may not do it for legal reasons
[10:28] <yonil> yay firefox upgraded from 1.0.2 to 1.0.6 :P
[10:29] <anacron> hurray
[10:29] <Burgundavia> yonil, in terms of security, it went from .4 to .6
[10:29] <anacron> did it make world better place to live?
[10:30] <root__> Can anyone tell me why ubuntu hangs right after the graphical server starts. I just installed.
[10:31] <nJess> question, building from source improves system performance, yes?
[10:31] <nJess> or rather
[10:32] <nJess> software performance
[10:32] <Burgundavia> nJess, it might
[10:32] <liraz> nJess, yes
[10:32] <Burgundavia> seriously, the effort is not worth it
[10:32] <liraz> amen
[10:32] <nJess> Burgundavia, its for fun
[10:32] <nJess> linux is for fun, for me
[10:32] <nJess> :D
[10:32] <root__> Can anyone tell me why ubuntu hangs right after the graphical server starts. I just installed.
[10:32] <Burgundavia> root__, which version did you install?
[10:32] <abhayks> root_: which version ?
[10:33] <znh> Hm.. anyone knows why echo -e \a does not do his job?
[10:33] <root__> Hmm, hold on, it might say it on the disk.
[10:33] <root__> 4.10
[10:33] <sulkd> znh, echo -e \\a
[10:34] <znh> sulkd: ah D'oh, thanks :)
[10:34] <root__> abhayks: 4.10
[10:34] <znh> sulkd: do you know also how to make multipile beeps?
[10:34] <synd> root__, why not 5.04?
[10:35] <sulkd> znh, while :; do echo -e \\a; done ? :P
[10:35] <root__> synd: I have no idea, this if my first time on this distro.
[10:35] <znh> sulkd: lol :D
[10:35] <abhayks> root_: please tell more about the machine configuration and the xorg.conf file
[10:35] <synd> root__, 5.04 is the latest stable release. 4.10 is stable as well. neither have to do with why your xorg isnt working
[10:35] <znh> sulkd: then it would beep continuesly, I would like to have it beep about 5 times
[10:35] <synd> root__, just wondering why
[10:36] <root__> synd: ah, okay.
[10:36] <root__> I'll be back..
[10:39] <znh> anyone noticed 'Read errors' in gaim?
[10:40] <synd> znh, which vers?
[10:40] <znh> synd: momemt will check, but it's diffenetly the newest
[10:40] <synd> 2.10?
[10:40] <holycow> as a tangent of linkage off of the inkscape release, looks like firefox will be getting full svg supprt
[10:40] <holycow> not that would be really neat
[10:40] <znh> synd: Gaim 1.3.1
[10:41] <simon_> morning folks
[10:41] <holycow> could enable some really neat apps to be deployed on the browser
[10:41] <holycow> say something like planner, but web based
[10:41] <holycow> sweet
[10:41] <znh> simon_: morning
[10:41] <simon_> Anyone help me with a sound problem plz ?
[10:41] <Madpilot> cool, the more browsers that support svg, the better. Opera 8 already does
[10:41] <holycow> Madpilot, it does?
[10:41] <synd> znh, did you get if off the repos?
[10:42] <holycow> oh neat, i should looksee :)
[10:42] <znh> synd: Yes i did
[10:42] <ph3r> I'm back. root__ .. I managed to get a graphical server up, but it gave me some trouble with "loading the theme 'human'".. Any it said my greeter crashed... Sorry for the lame newbie questions. I am just looking for some quick help.
[10:42] <vinboy> when will the next new kernel be out?
[10:42] <vinboy> i can't wait to upgrade my kernel
[10:42] <Madpilot> holycow: yup. openclipart.org is suddenly a lot easier to browse!
[10:42] <holycow> ph3r, give us more info on how you installed ubuntu and how far you got
[10:42] <Tomcat_> vinboy: In October
[10:43] <Tomcat_> vinboy: Or you mean a kernel.org Kernel?
[10:43] <pippijn> hi all
[10:43] <simon_> My souncard is correctly recognized in device manager , and i have tried the sound fix on the ubuntu guide pages , but still silent . ANyone any ideas ?
[10:43] <ph3r> holycow: it crashed during an update after install.
[10:43] <holycow> ph3r, so it was working after install?
[10:43] <pippijn> can someone look at http://xinutec.mine.nu?
[10:43] <pippijn> if it works
[10:44] <Tomcat_> No connection, pippijn.
[10:44] <pippijn> hm
[10:44] <pippijn> weird
[10:44] <pippijn> I don't see anything in my firewall log either
[10:44] <holycow> oh lookee, opera has an ubuntu deb
[10:44] <Madpilot> pippijn: not connecting that I can see...
[10:44] <holycow> how sweet!
[10:44] <holycow> :)
[10:44] <GGfofo> where the apt-get sources.list located i need to add some other source so i can get wine ??
[10:44] <pippijn> darn
[10:44] <ph3r> holycow: Somewhat, I managed to get x server running, but it doesn't seem to want to run right? How can I be shure I installed correctly?
[10:45] <konki> ?? do i need to resart my system after installing with SPM???
[10:45] <holycow> ph3r, well, by going into terminal and doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist upgrade first
[10:45] <Madpilot> holycow: ubuntu packages for so many *nix branches - but the Ubuntu one came in quickly!
[10:45] <konki> how come nothing shows on my appz??
[10:45] <holycow> and making sure the update is successfull
[10:45] <holycow> if update is successfull fully we can debug from there
[10:45] <holycow> do alt / f1, login as your self an dist upgrade first pleaze
[10:46] <Tomcat_> pippijn: Check if the IP of xinutec.mine.nu matches yours.
[10:46] <holycow> Madpilot, i noticed that, very cool indeed
[10:46] <GGfofo> where is the sources.list located?
[10:46] <pippijn> Tomcat_: okay
[10:46] <Tomcat_> xinutec.mine.nu has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:46] <ph3r> holycow: Thank you
[10:46] <ph3r> apt-get update
[10:46] <ph3r>                  && sudo apt-get dist upgrade first
[10:46] <ph3r> opps.
[10:46] <pippijn> correct
[10:46] <pippijn> that's mine
[10:46] <Tomcat_> Yeah, I see it.
[10:46] <Tomcat_> Weird.
[10:47] <Tomcat_> Maybe mine.nu is blocking it?
[10:47] <freewoody> How do I bypass a local transparent proxy server ?
[10:47] <Tomcat_> I doubt it, but maybe you did some setting wrong.
[10:47] <pippijn> Tomcat_: don't think so ;)
[10:47] <holycow> *wooo*
[10:47] <holycow> opera loads really fast on linux too
[10:47] <holycow> wow
[10:47] <holycow> heh :)
[10:47] <Nameeater> opera is the best browser :)
[10:48] <IceDC571> opera loads fast on everything
[10:48] <IceDC571> dillo is still the fastest i think
[10:48] <IceDC571> but it doesnt render most webpages correctly
[10:48] <freewoody> How do I install opera ?
[10:48] <Madpilot> best thing about opera for this XP refugee is that I could just plug my bookmarks file in seemlessly
[10:49] <holycow> it's really impressive how fast it is indeed
[10:49] <holycow> freewoody, download opear deb from opera.com
[10:49] <Madpilot> freewoody: www.opera.com/download - get the Ubuntu .deb
[10:49] <pippijn> maybe I did something wrong with my firewall
[10:49] <holycow> then do dpkg -i operapackage.deb from the dir you downloaded it to
[10:49] <Madpilot> holycow: beat me to the next part! ;)
[10:49] <pippijn> Tomcat_: I am forwarding that port from this computer to the webserver
[10:49] <holycow> Madpilot, indeedy, i can view svg!
[10:49] <holycow> woot!
[10:49] <holycow> neato!
[10:49] <holycow> haha
[10:49] <freewoody> Does somebody here know how I bypass a proxy server ?
[10:50] <Madpilot> very cool (long) tour of Opera 8's features: http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/
[10:50] <pippijn> and that webserver wants to use port 33184 on my NAT
[10:50] <pippijn> every time someone wants to connect
[10:50] <Tomcat_> pippijn: Well... no idea to help you there right now, check your settings then.
[10:51] <simon_> is there a ubuntu support forum ?
[10:51] <pippijn> I don't understand why that server wants to connect to my NAT
[10:51] <Tomcat_> simon_: wiki.ubuntu.com has support, and there's ubuntuforums.org
[10:51] <pippijn> on some high port
[10:51] <simon_> ty TC
[10:51] <freewoody> does someone has a iptables script for pc with a single nic card which is connected directly to a LAN
[10:52] <Tomcat_> simon_: And we're doing support here... I'm pretty sure you'll get help in any of those places.
[10:52] <pippijn> freewoody: of course... but it won't help you because it is made for my needs
[10:52] <pippijn> you have to do your own firewall script
[10:53] <pippijn> freewoody: maybe look at some autogenerated script
[10:53] <lindsay> Hello, I recently just installed kubuntu but I dont have all the packages that I thought came with KDE such as kdevelop, kwrite.. I tried apt-get and aptitude search but those packages dont exist, can someone tell me how I can get all those KDE goodies?
[10:53] <freewoody> Like ?
[10:53] <rob^> freewoody, 1. why do you need a firewall 2. use firestarter
[10:53] <pippijn> freewoody: firestarter and fwbuilder generate scripts
[10:53] <pippijn> and kmyfirewall too but 1) it is KDE and 2) it's not in ubuntu repos
[10:53] <pippijn> so you would need to build that yourself
[10:54] <pippijn> anyways, as rob^ said, use firestarter
[10:54] <pippijn> it makes life easier
[10:54] <freewoody> Which is the best site to learn about Iptables ?
[10:54] <rob^> freewoody, dont
[10:54] <rob^> you dont need to
[10:54] <freewoody> why ?
[10:54] <freewoody> Regarding firestarter, I just apt-get install firestarter to install it ?
[10:54] <rob^> because you can use Firestarter for one thing
[10:55] <rob^> and its too hard to learn for something you will hardly use
[10:55] <lindsay> can anyone help me? or not?
[10:55] <znh> lindsay: are you that guy from mean girls ?
[10:55] <znh> *girl
[10:55] <pippijn> freewoody: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO.html
[10:56] <simon_> Anyone have an idea why my seemingly recognised and installed onboard SIS sound isnt working plz ?
[10:56] <lindsay> negative :P
[10:56] <znh> lindsay: glad
[10:56] <lindsay> heh
[10:57] <pippijn> lindsay: you need to add some things to /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:57] <pippijn> lindsay: I can send you mine in which every ubuntu repo is included
[10:57] <nJess> router locked up :/
[10:57] <freewoody> My harddisk is getting full
[10:57] <freewoody> How do I free up some space ?
[10:58] <nJess> delete old files
[10:58] <Madpilot> delete your pron collection? ;)
[10:58] <freewoody> Well besides that ?
[10:58] <nJess> well
[10:58] <Madpilot> ... sorry ...
[10:58] <freewoody> besides that
[10:58] <Nermal> freewoody, delete stuff in /var/cache/apt/archive/
[10:58] <nJess> rm -rf *
[10:58] <lindsay> I just got some thanks :)
[10:58] <nJess> :P
[10:58] <Nermal> that's all the .debs you've downloaded
[10:58] <pippijn> ok
[10:58] <Madpilot> nJess: even less funny than my suggestion...
[10:59] <nJess> its funny if he does it
[10:59] <Madpilot> well, for us, maybe... :p  "sudo rm -rf *" would be funnier
[11:00] <Nameeater> sudo apt-get clean
[11:00] <Nameeater> ?
[11:00] <Madpilot> I know "-r" is recursive - is "f" for 'just do it, don't ask questions'?
[11:00] <Nameeater> force
[11:00] <pippijn> Madpilot: it means "go on even if errors occur"
[11:00] <Nameeater> ignore nonexistent files, never prompt
[11:01] <Madpilot> right, so it'll delete *everything*... evil...
[11:01] <pippijn> yes
[11:01] <pippijn> sudo rm -rf /
[11:01] <pippijn> that will delete everything
[11:01] <bca_> Hi, i am having some trouble getting Java installed, where can I get some help?
[11:01] <znh> pippijn: that's rude :P
[11:01] <nJess> hey
[11:01] <nJess> after i have resolved the build deps
[11:01] <pippijn> ;)
[11:01] <pippijn> I did that twice
[11:02] <pippijn> for fun
[11:02] <nJess> would apt-get -b source xchat instill the program after it is compiled?
[11:02] <pippijn> because I wanted to reinstall anyways
[11:02] <pippijn> my system stayed up for quite long
[11:02] <pippijn> after some time then it started complaining about sound files not being found so Gaim could not tell me that someone has logged on
[11:02] <daves> hi all :)
[11:02] <pippijn> hi daves
[11:03] <znh> hi daves
[11:04] <lapalomino> join #ubuntu-de
[11:05] <pippijn> lapalomino: because?
[11:05] <znh> pippijn: omg he's advertising
[11:05] <Madpilot> lapalomino: append a / to that and it'll work...
[11:05] <pippijn> hehe
[11:06] <pippijn>  /join #ubuntu-de
[11:06] <pippijn> Madpilot: it's prepend if that word exists ;)
[11:07] <Madpilot> pippijn: you're right - and it is a word. 'append' would be 'add after'...
[11:07] <St0n3-C0l> do anybody know where do I put new layout for keyboard?
[11:07] <St0n3-C0l> I mean I want to add another layout
[11:07] <pippijn> yeah
[11:07] <St0n3-C0l> please tel
[11:07] <St0n3-C0l> tell*
[11:08] <pippijn> St0n3-C0l: in X?
[11:08] <St0n3-C0l> yep
[11:08] <pippijn> what Desktop Environment?
[11:08] <znh> ~[-_-] ~
[11:08] <pippijn> gnome?
[11:08] <znh> pippijn: sorry that I interupt you, but it has to be configured in the X config, that has nothing todo with the WM
[11:08] <pippijn> znh: he wants to _add_ one
[11:09] <pippijn> not replace it
[11:09] <znh> hm
[11:09] <pippijn> in the X config you put the default one
[11:09] <Zukero> hi
[11:09] <pippijn> but if you want to add one you have to use some DE tool
[11:10] <St0n3-C0l> gnome piipijn
[11:10] <Madpilot> hmmm... Ubuntu's default dictionary seems to have stopped working...
[11:10] <pippijn> St0n3-C0l: then:
[11:10] <Madpilot> does it connect to something on the web for a database?
[11:10] <pippijn> System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts
[11:10] <St0n3-C0l> I don't want to change
[11:10] <St0n3-C0l> I want to add
[11:10] <pippijn> well there you go
[11:10] <St0n3-C0l> when I click on Add it gives me many layouts
[11:11] <St0n3-C0l> i want to add there my own :s
[11:11] <St0n3-C0l> Thats Urdu layout
[11:11] <pippijn> you want to create one?
[11:11] <Zukero> anyone here uses ubuntu with enlightenment (E16) ?
[11:12] <St0n3-C0l> yeah
[11:12] <St0n3-C0l> I've a file of layout
[11:12] <pippijn> hm
[11:12] <pippijn> wait...
[11:12] <synd> Zukero, yes, some do
[11:12] <St0n3-C0l> oka
[11:12] <Zukero> because
[11:12] <synd> Zukero, is there a specific problem?
[11:12] <Zukero> yeah
[11:12] <daves> how do you set things up so as to see all apps on the panel (but having them on differnet vertual desktops ?
[11:12] <pippijn> St0n3-C0l: /usr/share/keymaps/i386
[11:12] <Zukero> it doesn't generate the gnome and epplets menu
[11:13] <pippijn> St0n3-C0l: that is where all keymaps are
[11:13] <Zukero> it does nicely under debian
[11:13] <Zukero> but
[11:13] <St0n3-C0l> Thanks :)
[11:13] <Zukero> the gnome menus under debian and ubuntu are a little different
[11:13] <Zukero> so maybe
[11:13] <Zukero> E cannot find it
[11:14] <norhted> #hacks
[11:14] <Zukero> i was wondering if someone managed to have these menus (especially the gnome one)
[11:14] <synd> norhted, #hacks?
[11:14] <norhted> :) typo
[11:14] <daves> Can anyone point m to the direction of find out how to have the pc powerdown after the OS has powered down ?
[11:15] <poningru> Zukero: what are you trying to do?
[11:16] <poningru> is it in the application menu or the places/system menu?
[11:16] <Stinkywrix> Sheesh, Ubuntu is so much better then Knoppix.
[11:17] <Zukero> poningru : I just want to have the Gnome menu in E16
[11:17] <Zukero> both
[11:17] <Zukero> but rather the application
[11:17] <pippijn> where is iproute?
[11:17] <Zukero> the one that is normally automaticalyy generated by E
[11:17] <poningru> !smeg
[11:17] <ubotu> somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[11:17] <pippijn> I mean the binary... I installed the package
[11:18] <poningru> Zukero: have you looked into that?
[11:18] <Zukero> that's for gnome
[11:18] <Zukero> i need smthg for E
[11:18] <poningru> ok now clue sorry
[11:18] <poningru> err no*
[11:18] <pippijn> Zukero: apt-get install menu
[11:19] <pippijn> Zukero: when that is installed do update-menus as root
[11:19] <pippijn> and then update-menus.real
[11:19] <znh> heh funny, large files with the extentsion .jpg but they are at hisself mp3 are being automaticly downloaded by firefox
[11:19] <Zukero> pippijn : that's for E ?
[11:19] <pippijn> Zukero: it's for everything that is supported by ubuntu
[11:19] <pippijn> also windowmaker
[11:19] <pippijn> I use it for that
[11:19] <Zukero> hmm
[11:20] <poningru> znh: did you look under download?
[11:20] <Zukero> ok i'll try it
[11:20] <poningru> there should be a list of filetypes that firefox does automatic action for
[11:20] <znh> poningru: does not show up, only a jpg box in the firefox window (like it can't be found, but it's being downloaded)
[11:20] <pippijn> Zukero: actually only use the first one
[11:20] <pippijn> update-menus
[11:20] <pippijn> the .real one does not exist in ubuntu
[11:21] <poningru> znh: I'm sorry I dont understand your question
[11:21] <poningru> what exactly do you want firefox to do?
[11:21] <znh> poningru: it's not a question, it's a sort of funny thing :)
[11:21] <Burgundavia> poningru, ff should integrate into gnome and use the gnome stuff for opening files
[11:22] <poningru> ah ok
[11:22] <znh> poningru: I open a file on a webserver that has a extension .jpg (Picture), but the content of that file is something else.. but firefox handles it as a image and downloads it automaticly wich is kinda unsecure
[11:22] <pippijn> does anyone know about NAT?
[11:22] <znh> pippijn: yes, it should be disabled :+P
[11:22] <Zukero> thx pippijn : now, I have a Debian menu under E16 in ubuntu :)
[11:23] <Zukero> i can now access everything I needed
[11:23] <pippijn> znh: I need it
[11:23] <poningru> oh well obviously its gonna download as a pic
[11:23] <Burgundavia> znh, if ff passed the file onto gnome, gnome would say it was a not a jpg and barf an error up
[11:23] <pippijn> Zukero: nice :)
[11:23] <poningru> but its not gonna execute it as anything else
[11:24] <znh> Burgundavia: that's right, but if there is some other application that can rename and execute it, would be easy
[11:24] <poningru> gotta go
[11:24] <Burgundavia> znh, renaming the file is not going to do much in linux
[11:24] <Yagisan> G'day. Has anyone successfully installed Ubuntu PPC in either PearPC or QEMU ?
[11:24] <Burgundavia> it needs to set the execute bit and then force the system to execute it
[11:25] <znh> Burgundavia: oh yes your right in that :)
[11:25] <nJess> how do i install .debs?
[11:25] <znh> nJess: dpkg -i packagename.dab
[11:25] <nJess> thnks
[11:26] <znh> nJess: for more information about dpkg, you might want to see the manpage by typing 'man dpkg'
[11:27] <nJess> crap
[11:27] <nJess> i have two packages that depend on each other to install
[11:28] <nJess> how do i do multiple at once?
[11:28] <Yagisan> nJess: put them all on the same line
[11:29] <Yagisan> Anyone installed any linux PPC distros at all in either QEMU or PearPC  ??
[11:29] <m0ns00n> not me
[11:29] <m0ns00n> :-D
[11:30] <Yagisan> Damm. I can't get them installed. I want to build powerpc versions of doomsday, but I don't have a mac.
[11:30] <synd> Yagisan, its been done
[11:30] <lhb> !qemu
[11:30] <ubotu> Wish i knew, lhb
[11:31] <pippijn> can someone try http://xinutec.mine.nu?
[11:31] <nJess> im replacing my precompiled software with versions i just compiled
[11:31] <nJess> :D
[11:31] <berkes> g'day
[11:31] <Yagisan> synd: What do you mean ?
[11:31] <berkes> pippijn: 404
[11:32] <pippijn> hm :(
[11:32] <pippijn> ok
[11:32] <berkes> how long does if usually take before new version of apps become available for ubuntu?
[11:32] <Gourami> Hi all, if I restart cupsys and it exits with a status of 13, I presume there is something wrong right ?
[11:32] <znh> berkes: depends on the popularity I think ;)
[11:33] <berkes> yesterday a new version of inkscape was released (wohoo!)
[11:33] <anacron> yahoo
[11:33] <berkes> and I'd liek to know if its worth compliing or if I just have to wait a bit more
[11:33] <anacron> too bad i don't know how to use inkscape well :(
[11:33] <anacron> too much windows, too much freehand
[11:33] <berkes> anacron: neither did I. but its by far the best program to lean vectors
[11:34] <berkes> inkscpae is only one window. as opposed to gimp
[11:34] <asfra> If I want to install 'mplayer-686_1.0-pre6-03ubuntu6_i386.deb' should I just type 'dpkg -i mplayer-686_1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6_i386.deb.dab' and then it's installed?
[11:34] <znh> what's inkscape, what can it do?
[11:34] <Nermal> asfra, aye.. with sudo
[11:34] <sulkd> gimp needs a HIG diet... badly
[11:34] <berkes> znh: http://www.inkscape.org/
[11:34] <znh> asfra: doing it via apt-get should be easier for the deps
[11:34] <Imsdle> when im trying to setup quasar, it is asking for a libpq.so in the /usr/lib/ director but there isn't any file. If i try to use the libpq.so.3 or the libpq.so.3.1 file they don't work
[11:34] <Zukero> and without the .dab
[11:34] <Zukero> asfra : and without the .dab
[11:34] <Imsdle> im using a postgresql db
[11:35] <synd> asfra, did you try apt-get install mplayer ?
[11:35] <znh> berkes: woot woot
[11:35] <Yagisan> Any doomsday players here ?
[11:35] <asfra> hmm, I've downloaded the package with firefox to my desktop
[11:35] <znh> Yagisan: I know the game, didn't play it last times
[11:35] <asfra> does apt get it from the internet or my download?
[11:35] <anacron> berkes: yeah, inkscape looked wonderfull when i tested it, but i need more time
[11:35] <znh> asfra: then it's located by default in your ~/Desktop/ directory
[11:35] <synd> asfra, from the network
[11:35] <sulkd> Yagisan, well, I'm one of the chosen ones that at a given moment will be given a crucial moral decision upon which the fate of the world is dependant.. so, my character may or may not trigger the end of days
[11:36] <Gourami> Hi all, if I restart cupsys and it exits with a status of 13, I presume there is something wrong right ?
[11:36] <synd> asfra, from the repositories, rather
[11:36] <berkes> anacron: yup, its mostly the concept of  vector drawing taht is hard to grok
[11:36] <synd> asfra, you can do sudo dpkg -i then drag the icon of the .deb over to your console
[11:37] <synd> and it will automatically put the location of the .deb
[11:37] <asfra> ok! I'll try that. Thanks :-)
[11:37] <Yagisan> znh: I was hoping I could test out online play, as it was supposed to be fixed for linux.
[11:38] <synd> asfra, no prob.
[11:38] <znh> Yagisan: you could try to put-up a local server, and connect to it via your outside ip address
[11:38] <raptoid> selamlar.
[11:38] <Gourami> Hello, where can I get a default version of cupsd.conf from ?
[11:39] <Yagisan> znh: if only I could.
[11:39] <znh> Yagisan: why can't you?
[11:40] <Yagisan> znh: It doesn't like to run on my gateway system.
[11:40] <znh> does anyone know how that song is called "Lonely..  I think it gets confused as gateway also runs as a nat box.
[11:42] <znh> Yagisan: for the best latency it should be directly connected to the internet
[11:43] <Yagisan> znh: It should, but it can't.
[11:43] <highvoltage> does ubuntu support promise raid controllers with it's standard kernel?
[11:43] <Imsdle> when im trying to setup quasar, it is asking for a libpq.so in the /usr/lib/ director but there isn't any file. If i try to use the libpq.so.3 or the libpq.so.3.1 file they don't work
[11:43] <znh> Yagisan: can you connect to it it locally?
[11:43] <Yagisan> znh: do you use ubuntu packages or complie your own ?
[11:43] <znh> Yagisan: the time I played doomsday i compiled manualy on gentoo
[11:44] <Yagisan> znh: I'll try again in a moment. I'm syncing my repo with an update
[11:44] <znh> Yagisan: aight
[11:46] <Gourami> PLEASE can someone help me, I think I have made a typo in cupsd.conf and would like to get a unmodified version
[11:46] <rob^> tisk tisk
[11:46] <nJess> Gourami, where is the file located? i'll give you my local copy
[11:46] <rob^> always make backups first
[11:46] <pippijn> Gourami: copy the config, deinstall cups and purge its config then reinstall cups
[11:47] <asfra> It says that I need to install mplayer-586 first. I can do that. But is there a way to get apt to get these packages for me? or isn't they a part of ubuntu? when I write apt-get install mplayer I get the message that the package could no be found.
[11:47] <pippijn> Gourami: that is if you can't get a copy from someone else
[11:47] <synd> asfra, you need the right repos
[11:47] <synd> asfra, you need to edit your sources.list
[11:48] <pippijn> asfra: look for debian marillat
[11:48] <nJess> asfra, try sudo apt-get install mplayer-586
[11:48] <nJess> :/
[11:48] <asfra> ok, I see. So I need to type an internet-adress where it can get the package
[11:48] <pippijn> I don't know the address but google for debian marillat
[11:48] <nJess> just remove all the command tags
[11:48] <pippijn> nerim.net or so
[11:48] <Speedy2> asfra: You might want to use synaptic, it's a little more userfriendly
[11:48] <nJess> comment*
[11:48] <asfra> ok
[11:49] <pippijn> nJess: nerim marillat is not in sources.list by default
[11:49] <pippijn> not even commented
[11:49] <synd> synaptic still needs the right sources.list
[11:49] <znh> synd: I fully agree
[11:49] <Gourami> njess /etc/cups
[11:50] <IcE-bOy> hi
[11:50] <lucian> hello
[11:50] <synd> asfra:
[11:50] <synd> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[11:50] <synd> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:50] <pippijn> hi IcE-bOy
[11:50] <znh> sudo cat /dev/input/mice
[11:50] <IcE-bOy> i have touch /etc/init.d with update-rc.d and .. i have change the order of boot and other things, how can i recover it ?
[11:50] <synd> asfra: that should bring up your current sources.list
[11:51] <IcE-bOy> hi picole
[11:51] <IcE-bOy> hi pippijn
[11:51] <IcE-bOy> :)
[11:51] <synd> and will have backed up your old one, asfra
[11:51] <Gourami> nJess: u get that ?
[11:51] <nJess> yup
[11:51] <nJess> uploading now
[11:51] <Gourami> gr8 thanks
[11:51] <lucian> i can see everybody has something to ask about
[11:52] <IcE-bOy> nobody knows how to recover /etc/init.d ?
[11:52] <Gourami> not too sure what is wrong but cypsys restart gives me an error
[11:52] <znh> lucian: that's also a reason why IRC exists
[11:52] <synd> Gourami, always backup your .conf files before altering them
[11:53] <lucian> yes, but there are to many questions to answer
[11:53] <Gourami> synd: yeah will do
[11:53] <IcE-bOy> anybody can send me a .tar.gz from his /etc/rc* ? (from hoary)
[11:53] <znh> lucian: hmm, I find that all questions that have been already answered should be saved on some html page
[11:53] <skalpel> what should i do if no browser gets loaded when i click on the firefox icon in my gnomebar?
[11:54] <znh> lucian: then we could handle the many load, because everyone is reading that page instead of asking on IRC (again)
[11:54] <hyphenated> skalpel: open a shell and type in 'killall firefox-bin'
[11:54] <Gourami> nJess: tell me when ure done ok
[11:54] <hyphenated> skalpel: then try clicking the icon again
[11:55] <nadroj> does gaim offer a plugin that displays the album of the current track you're listening to as your buddy icon?
[11:55] <skalpel> k, thank you
[11:55] <synd> nadroj, not that i know of
[11:55] <synd> nadroj, try asking in #gaim
[11:55] <nadroj> ok, thanks
[11:55] <skalpel> hyphenated: jon@ubuntu:~$ killall firefox-bin
[11:55] <skalpel> firefox-bin: no process killed
[11:56] <Yagisan> znh: Back again. Just tried running two copies, using different ports on my main box.
[11:56] <hyphenated> skalpel: hmm, ok while you're in that shell, type in 'firefox' and see if any interesting messages appear while it tries to load
[11:56] <lucian> how can i install mp3-plugins for xmms?
[11:56] <znh> Yagisan: and how did it result?
[11:56] <asfra> ok, I got the sources .list
[11:56] <synd> !restricted
[11:56] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:56] <synd> lucian, go there
[11:56] <skalpel> hyphenated: (firefox-bin:20364): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:56] <skalpel> i think that is interesting
[11:56] <asfra> So here I'm supposed to add web-sites where apt can get packages?
[11:56] <Yagisan> znh: bit of stuffing around with the client ids
[11:56] <znh> skalpel: try running it as non-root
[11:57] <nJess> http://midnight-jester.csmn-ctd.net/cupsd.conf
[11:57] <skalpel> i did
[11:57] <nJess> Gourami,
[11:57] <znh> Yagisan: hm?
[11:57] <Yagisan> znh: They both just came up
[11:57] <asfra> damn, I think I need to buy a book on this install stuff
[11:57] <znh> Yagisan: they came up in the masterlist?
[11:57] <Gourami> thanks nJess
[11:57] <nJess> np
[11:57] <synd> asfra, uncomment the urls
[11:57] <Yagisan> znh: local connect
[11:57] <synd> asfra, as in take away the #
[11:57] <synd> 's
[11:57] <lucian> synd: where???
[11:58] <znh> Yagisan: ah, then it should also work on the internet, _if_ it could be accessed
[11:58] <Gourami> nJess: I get page cannot be found
[11:58] <synd> lucian, watch
[11:58] <pippijn> ip -4 neigh flush dev eth0
[11:58] <synd> !restricted
[11:58] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:58] <pippijn> what's wrong with that?
[11:58] <lucian> i'm watching
[11:58] <synd> lucian, go where ubotu said
[11:58] <asfra> Yes, I'm at it :-)
[11:58] <Yagisan> znh: well, port forwarding is correctly set up so that shouldn't be a problem.
[11:58] <Yagisan> znh: finally working doomsday on linux :)
[11:58] <znh> Yagisan: hm, you might want to try connecting to your ip address from outside
[11:59] <nJess> why is that called restricted anyhow?
[11:59] <synd> !synd
[11:59] <ubotu> it has been said that synd is a badass
[11:59] <znh> ROFL
[11:59] <znh> !znh
[11:59] <skalpel> should i just logout and login? it seems to be the xserver
[11:59] <pippijn> !pippijn
[11:59] <ubotu> znh: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:59] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, pippijn
[11:59] <pippijn> hm
[11:59] <Yagisan> znh: will try that in just a second. Need to punch another hole through my nat.
[11:59] <pippijn> ubotu doesn't know me
[11:59] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, pippijn
[12:00] <synd> pippijn, znh: play with the bot in PM
[12:00] <Protoss> hello
[12:00] <Imsdle> igive up.. damn quasar! does anyone here use gnucash for a small business.  if so what is it like
[12:00] <pippijn> okay
[12:00] <znh> hi Protoss
[12:00] <lucian> wth is a repository???
[12:00] <Protoss> how are you today?
[12:00] <trevi> I have and old magazine's cd with the sources of Corel WP do you think it might compile in ubuntu?
[12:00] <znh> lucian: It's a location that apt-get can use to get his packages
[12:00] <synd> trevi, what on earth would you want with wordperfect?
[12:01] <crus> can anyone recommend a good pop server for linux? is there any groupmail servers for linux that would allow an Outlook client to connect to it in a similar fashion to exchange?
[12:01] <znh> *silence*
[12:01] <pippijn> anyone knows about my iproute issue?
[12:01] <pippijn> it hangs at ip -4 neigh flush dev eth0
[12:01] <trevi> the important thing is if it can be done...
[12:01] <trevi> I guess
[12:02] <synd> trevi, yes it can be done with the right dependencies, i would imagine
[12:02] <trevi> he... thanks synd
[12:02] <lucian> isn't there a command like apt-get install xmms-mp3-plugin, to do it easyer???
[12:02] <synd> lucian, no
[12:03] <lucian> ok yhanks
[12:03] <lucian> ok thanks
[12:03] <asfra> by the way I got this when opening sources.list: '(gedit:9747): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:03] <asfra> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.' nothing to worry about I guess?
[12:04] <concept10> crus: check out bynari.net
[12:04] <synd> lucian, and make sure that xmms is pointing to the right mixer output
[12:04] <lucian> synd, what does that mean???
[12:04] <Protoss> asfra, why not?
[12:04] <crus> concept10: thanks, ill check it out :) looking to run my own mailserver at home :)
[12:05] <peter__> join #ubuntu-dk
[12:05] <synd> lucian, in xmms' preferences
[12:05] <synd> lucian, there is an I/O Plugin tab, iirc
[12:05] <nJess> how long should mplayer take to compule on a 1ghz proc?
[12:05] <nJess> compile*
[12:06] <synd> lucian, and under output, there is a dropdown menu
[12:06] <asfra> just hoping :)
[12:06] <lucian> how can i close a window? Load files has frozen?
[12:06] <lucian> and i can't find preferences
[12:07] <Protoss> lucian, xorg?
[12:07] <nJess> right click the program gui
[12:07] <lucian> yes
[12:07] <bobbyd_> hi
[12:07] <Protoss> lucian, hehehehhhehhehehehhehhehehhehe
[12:07] <lucian> don't laugh
[12:08] <znh> Protoss: don't do that
[12:08] <Protoss> lucian, gtk+ ?
[12:08] <avatar_> quick question, what is the default root password for the liveCD?
[12:08] <bobbyd_> we want to use debian for a server application we're developing because of it's stability. We also want to use graphical development tools under linux. Would ubuntu give us the nice graphical development tools with the stability of debian?
[12:08] <lucian> what's that?
[12:08] <znh> avatar_: I think you have to define on by typing passwd
[12:08] <lucian> Protoss: what's that?
[12:08] <Protoss> lucian, gedit(gtk+) ?
[12:08] <lucian> Protoss: what's that?
[12:08] <Gourami> what is the terminal command to delete ?
[12:08] <synd> bobbyd_, in a nutshell, yes
[12:08] <Protoss> ah
[12:08] <bobbyd_> synd, cool
[12:09] <Protoss> gtk+ ot gtk+2 ?
[12:09] <Protoss> or
[12:09] <avatar_> znh, kind of hard when i cant login as root :(
[12:09] <lucian> Protoss: take it easy with me
[12:09] <avatar_> znh, default user is ubuntu..
[12:09] <znh> avatar_: Aw, that's rude..
[12:09] <avatar_> znh, yes indeed.
[12:09] <avatar_> so someone should know..?
[12:09] <znh> avatar_: maybe http://ubuntuguide.org has listed it
[12:10] <avatar_> znh, will give it a shot.
[12:10] <Yagisan> znh: Nup. Couldn't see it on the master server. Yet I can clearly see it here http://www.doomsdayhq.com/master.php
[12:10] <synd> znh, please dont recommend ubuntuguid.org
[12:10] <synd> ubuntuguide.org*
[12:10] <Gourami> what is the terminal command to delete a file ?
[12:10] <znh> synd: how come? - It has good information
[12:10] <lucian> where is xkill so i can kill them???
[12:10] <Raptoid> help me pls..
[12:10] <znh> Yagisan: hm, then the masterserver is not fixed yet
[12:10] <factor> Hello everyone.
[12:10] <Protoss> hello,factorial
[12:10] <Raptoid> help meee
[12:10] <znh> Gourami: rm is the command, before using it I highly recommend you to read the man page, by typing 'man rm'
[12:10] <Raptoid> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[12:10] <Raptoid> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support
[12:10] <Nikopol>  quick question: Is there a simple way to trim both ends of an xvid file under linux?
[12:11] <Raptoid> help me ?
[12:11] <trevi> rm
[12:11] <factor> Hehe protoss :-D
[12:11] <Protoss> ?
[12:11] <Protoss> hello,faboccini
[12:11] <factor> The factorial thing...
[12:11] <factor> Fibonacci?
[12:11] <avatar_> znh, thnx m8 :)
[12:11] <Protoss> Oo
[12:11] <znh> avatar_: did you find it on that page?
[12:12] <Protoss> hello,world.
[12:12] <pippijn> hi Protoss
[12:12] <Protoss> :)
[12:12] <lucian> hellor ZERG
[12:13] <lucian> My life for Aiur!!!
[12:13] <synd> znh, the wiki is much better, and accurate.
[12:13] <synd> znh, please follow these guidlines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[12:14] <Protoss> oh
[12:14] <znh> synd: sorry didn't knew, thanks for informing me!
[12:14] <synd> znh, no problem
[12:14] <factor> I wish I had a Linux friendly modem
[12:14] <dmoyne> hello ! ; I am trying to get some printers connected to a Linux server (CUPS) seen by a LAN Windows machine ; yerterday I sweeted a lot on the Window machine but in vain ; any body to help ?
[12:15] <Protoss> what is windows?
[12:15] <dmoyne> Windows 2000
[12:15] <Protoss> a linux clone?
[12:15] <baggins> hello.
[12:16] <Yagisan> znh: so odd. Can't connect to it, using the external address, but when I use the internal address I connect fine.
[12:16] <Madpilot> !uguide
[12:16] <ubotu> Madpilot: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:16] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[12:16] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[12:16] <synd> Protoss, i believe it would be an os x ripoff
[12:16] <Yagisan> Protoss: windows is a reactos clone
[12:16] <Madpilot> there we go...
[12:16] <Protoss> I doubt it.
[12:16] <znh> Yagisan: also on your local network?
[12:17] <synd> Madpilot, ah.. forgot about that
[12:17] <Yagisan> znh: yeah
[12:17] <znh> Yagisan: they they blocked it for some reason, or you have to configure it properly
[12:17] <dmoyne>  znh : is this question for me ?
[12:17] <znh> dmoyne: what question?
[12:18] <dmoyne> soryy I think you talkes to some one else !
[12:18] <znh> dmoyne: what client are you using?
[12:19] <dmoyne> I have 2 machines connected to a DLINK-604 routeur ; one (server) is Linux with CUPS the other Windows 2000 !
[12:19] <Raptoid> help me pls
[12:19] <Raptoid> see #flood channel
[12:19] <tikka> Help required over here guys::: "Testing Network Repository".... 50% hanging there.
[12:20] <synd> lucian, sorry.. no PMs please
[12:20] <Yagisan> znh: Thanks for your help. I'll investigate this further. At least internal netgames work.
[12:20] <Protoss> aye... so easy
[12:20] <eth42> hi! anyone using firefox & thunderbird?
[12:20] <znh> Yagisan: yea, np.. good luck with it
[12:21] <Raptoid> znh, help me
[12:21] <znh> Raptoid: give me one reason, and I will
[12:21] <znh> *giggles*
[12:21] <Raptoid> join #flood channel
[12:21] <Raptoid> znh,
[12:21] <Raptoid> paste
[12:21] <Protoss> eth42, mozilla is better
[12:22] <znh> Raptoid: I'm there, past @ will
[12:22] <eth42> Protoss: I agree, I prefer the user interfaces of Mozilla & Mozilla Mail
[12:22] <znh> Raptoid: you might have to apt-get update
[12:22] <eth42> Protoss: yet I think it's better to separate the components as Firefox and THunderbird do
[12:23] <eth42> Protoss: and in the long term, Mozilla is dead
[12:23] <Protoss> ph no
[12:23] <Protoss> oh no
[12:23] <Protoss> long life mozilla
[12:23] <znh> Raptoid: I don't have much expierence with dpkg, try with the --force flag
[12:23] <eth42> don't think so
[12:24] <eth42> there will be no release after 1.7.x, right?
[12:24] <synd> firefox is the future of mozilla
[12:24] <Protoss> I will wait for new version
[12:25] <znh> synd: furture aint the good word to be honest.. (whines)
[12:25] <eth42> furture ain't a word, anyway, to be honest
[12:25] <znh> factor: lol I have that song
[12:25] <znh> factor: you don't even have CD Quality :P
[12:25] <Protoss> what song?
[12:26] <Protoss> I perfer tape Quality
[12:26] <factor> Lol.
[12:26] <factor> It's ok znh.
[12:26] <trevi> and tomorrow lp quality
[12:27] <factor> 128 KBps sounds fine :-D
[12:27] <Protoss> tape quality is enough
[12:27] <znh> heh
[12:27] <Protoss> drm free
[12:27] <factor> And dial up is not conducive to downloading :-P
[12:28] <factor> But hey, I personally think it's just entertaining watching my playlist cycle around
[12:28] <factor> From CCR > INXS > Elivs > Willy Nelso
[12:28] <factor> Little non-sequitir there :-D
[12:28] <selinium> How do i mount a slave drive? I have created a folder /media/slave the drive is hdb1.  I do: http://isl33t.net/pics/IMG_1129.JPG
[12:31] <jules> hey guys
[12:31] <factor> Eh, I've been listening to NIN all day
[12:32] <Protoss> I can play piano
[12:32] <tikka> cool pic znh
[12:32] <znh> tikka: made myself in france this vacation :)
[12:32] <eebl> heyko: does anyone know how to change the screen res & vsync when chosing what image to boot on PPC ubuntu?
[12:32] <eebl> **Hey
[12:32] <eebl> stupid auto-complete
[12:32] <Burgundavia> ubuntu making inroads --> http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=712
[12:32] <stimpie> znh, I cant see how big that is
[12:32] <Burgundavia> see the changelog
[12:33] <tikka> sweet
[12:33] <Admin_> guys i have a little problem , the PC on ubuntu don't want to connect a Network Printer on Windows 98
[12:33] <znh> stimpie: how come :-D?
[12:33] <stimpie> there is no reference point
[12:34] <Madpilot> good night/morning/day/whatever, everyone.
[12:34] <Protoss> Admin_, so you can remove win98 right now
[12:34] <znh> morning Madpilot
[12:34] <factor> Hm.
[12:34] <factor> It's 5:40 AM here.
[12:34] <factor> I should've gone to sleep a few hours ago probably
[12:34] <znh> factor: 12:34 here
[12:34] <Protoss> Oo
[12:34] <Admin_> Protoss no i can't
[12:34] <eebl> So, nobody knows how to change the resolution and refresh rate when booting?
[12:34] <Protoss> you can
[12:34] <factor> PM or AM znh?
[12:34] <Admin_> there are programs Bookmaking
[12:34] <eebl> er
[12:34] <eebl> before
[12:34] <eebl> bootin
[12:35] <Protoss> do it
[12:35] <Admin_> that runs only on Windows
[12:35] <znh> factor: euh..
[12:35] <znh> factor: how do I see xD
[12:35] <skalpel> can someone help me with changing my identd name?
[12:36] <Protoss> /msg operator
[12:36] <factor> Hm
[12:37] <znh> eebl: awww you poor thing
[12:37] <eebl> lol
[12:37] <factor> In a happy way eebl?
[12:37] <eebl> its just annoying the hell out of me, every time I try to boot my screen gives me the ol' "Frequency out of Range" thing
[12:37] <Protoss> I must to have something
[12:38] <Protoss> now
[12:38] <eebl> factor: yes.
[12:38] <skalpel> obviously
[12:38] <Protoss> bye all
[12:38] <eebl> ciao praetorian
[12:38] <eebl> er
[12:38] <eebl> Protoss
[12:38] <factor> Ah.
[12:39] <znh> crying in a happy way is conflicting to other people errrrr
[12:39] <znh> w/e
[12:39] <factor> Lol
[12:39] <CoffeeBreak1> hi. Trying to install ubuntu on an amd64 with a SATA drive and it seems like the sata drive is not recognized. I modprobed all kernel/drivers/sata* modules without luck. Suse live does recognize the disk. Any hint?
[12:39] <tikka> use suse
[12:40] <Crafty-Catcher> Hi I wanted to setup a raid1 but i am having problems with booting and mounting /dev/md0 as / Errors are here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/789 - Does anyone have a clue on this?
[12:40] <CoffeeBreak1> tikka: :) sure this is an official ubuntu channel ?
[12:41] <eebl> CoffeeBreak1: The sheer number of users should be enough of a hint ;)
[12:41] <eebl> And sorry, cant help you :(
[12:41] <znh> tikka: yea lol.. advertising for some other distrb is not very kind
[12:41] <tikka> lol
[12:41] <tikka> sorry guys :D
[12:41] <tikka> i dont use suse myself mind you.
[12:41] <CapSoft> lo folks
[12:41] <tikka> *tries to redeem himself*
[12:41] <eebl> Damnit.
[12:41] <CapSoft> how do i make my eth0 switch to 10baseT-FD on boot?
[12:41] <eebl> This is really irking me
[12:42] <CapSoft> mii-tool --force=10baseT-FD on boot?
[12:45] <CapSoft> does someone know how to put up eth0 at 10mbit while booting?
[12:47] <stimpie> someone got with vi?
[12:48] <CapSoft> stimpie, why vi?
[12:48] <CapSoft> why not nano?
[12:48] <stimpie> vi is the only editor available on my current system
[12:48] <podge> CapSoft: I think you pass arguments to the networking kernel module,,
[12:48] <stimpie> but iam having issues moving part of a line to the next line
[12:48] <CapSoft> how do i do that podge???
[12:49] <stimpie> like an <cr> in nano would do
[12:49] <podge> stimpie: I use vi...
[12:49] <CapSoft> stimpie, what is ur current system? just sudo apt-get install nano
[12:49] <CapSoft> ow ok
[12:49] <stimpie> CapSoft, current system is minix (yes i know not the correct channel)
[12:50] <toowoomba> why minix?
[12:50] <podge> stimpie: move to where you want to put the <cr>... type i, press return, then press escape.. then ZZ to save and exit
[12:50] <stimpie> podge, I wish to move part of a line to the next line, like an enter in nano would do
[12:50] <Crafty-Catcher> (2.6.10-5-386) Hi I wanted to setup a raid1 but i am having problems with booting and mounting /dev/md0 as / Errors are here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/789 - Does anyone have a clue on this?
[12:50] <podge> CapSoft: I am looking for the instructions..
[12:50] <CapSoft> thanks podge
[12:51] <stimpie> podge, ok that does it thanx
[12:51] <CapSoft> why minix stimpie ?
[12:51] <puupi> hello! can someone help me with one question: im going to install ubuntu now, but i have windows already installed, i want to have them both, what to do?
[12:51] <Adross> whats this 'terminal' thing everyone keeps talking about?
[12:51] <stimpie> CapSoft, school assignment
[12:51] <puupi> i want to have windows on the other hdd and ubuntu on the other
[12:51] <CapSoft> puupi, have you got unpartitioned room?
[12:51] <CapSoft> dunno Adross
[12:51] <puupi> ive got an empty hdd
[12:51] <greg123> puupi...im just comming in to ask about exactly th same thing
[12:51] <puupi> for linux
[12:51] <matthew> Hey, i have installed visualboyadvance from the package manager, but how do i start it?
[12:51] <CapSoft> can be done puupi
[12:52] <factor> If you have two separate hard drives then just install it on that one
[12:52] <Adross> CapSoft: dammit, linux sucks, should be more like windows. Myah myah myah
[12:52] <CapSoft> matthew, go in command line and typ visu and then hit tab
[12:52] <factor> It will automatically detect your IDE devices and you can just install on the empty one.
[12:52] <puupi> ok, but can i remove the windows hdd for the time im installing linux, just because i dont want to fuck anything up
[12:52] <matthew> thanks
[12:52] <CapSoft> lol @ Adross
[12:52] <factor> Open your case and take it out?
[12:52] <CapSoft> lol
[12:52] <Yagisa1> CrafttyCatcher: Yes
[12:52] <CapSoft> lol @ puupi ever thought about ur MBR
[12:53] <CapSoft> and/ or bootloader?
[12:53] <puupi> if i dont have windows hdd attached while im installing....and i attach it later on, will my booting be fucked?
[12:53] <trevi> puupi: grub won't run windoze
[12:53] <podge> CapSoft: What network card do you have?
[12:53] <stimpie> puupi, most likely but that can be fixed
[12:53] <factor> GRUB won't have detected win 2000 the first time through
[12:53] <CapSoft> realtek podge
[12:53] <stimpie> you can easily add windows later
[12:53] <factor> I'm running this system on dual boot with win2000 trevi...
[12:54] <puupi> hmm ok, but the installer detects both my hdds?
[12:54] <CapSoft> you will have to configure grub manual to activate the windows boot...
[12:54] <puupi> and i can choose either one to install linux on
[12:54] <trevi> me too factor
[12:54] <matthew> CapSoft when i do that it just changes it to visudo
[12:54] <CapSoft> puupi, you can manage partitions while installing ubuntu
[12:54] <factor> Ah ok, the way you said that made it sound as if you couldn't boot into windows from GRUB
[12:54] <trevi> but puupi wants to take off hda
[12:54] <factor> Lol
[12:54] <CapSoft> matthew, you installed from package manager??
[12:54] <CapSoft> one moment
[12:55] <matthew> yes
[12:55] <puupi> does ubuntu have a bootloader which detects windows too?
[12:55] <matthew> grub
[12:55] <puupi> so i can pick which one to run
[12:55] <CapSoft> grub puupi
[12:55] <toowoomba> worked for me
[12:55] <puupi> okay
[12:55] <puupi> thx
[12:55] <puupi> ill go installing  now then
[12:55] <toowoomba> never boot windows anymore though :)
[12:55] <stimpie> grub doesnt detects windows, or does it?
[12:55] <puupi> hopefully i can someday come back :P
[12:55] <Adross> stimpie:
[12:55] <factor> It does stimpie
[12:55] <trevi> see you when it done puupi
[12:55] <Adross> yes, it does
[12:55] <toowoomba> it detected it for me I think
[12:55] <puupi> bbl :D
[12:56] <stimpie> factor, I should try that sometime, now just let me find a windows machine
[12:56] <factor> Haha.
[12:56] <factor> I have it dual booting from one hard drive at the moment.
[12:56] <factor> 26 GB for Ubuntu and 90 for Windows 2000
[12:56] <deadzed> how do I install nvidia?
[12:57] <deadzed> I did everything like ubuntuguide said... but it dont work :( ... screen just stays blank
[12:57] <toowoomba> dead: ubuntuguide.org
[12:57] <deadzed> had to resotre xorg.conf and Im stuck now
[12:57] <toowoomba> works for me
[12:58] <deadzed> doesnt work for me
[12:58] <deadzed> I need to buy ati as weel I think
[12:58] <CapSoft> matthew, http://www.mameworld.net/easyemu/vboyadvtut.htm
[12:58] <deadzed> but still
[12:59] <matthew> CapSoft thanks
[12:59] <deadzed> would any pro's help me with hacking my box please.. cant start nvidia :(
[12:59] <deadzed> root@ubuntu:~ #
[12:59] <ghita> someone using xawtv cvs snapshot?
[01:00] <stephank> Hah, I can consistently crash breezy's metacity by unhiding the gaim window o_O
[01:00] <matthew> CapSoft that is for windows
[01:00] <CapSoft> matthew, vba
[01:00] <factor> Hm
[01:00] <factor> It's 6 AM
[01:01] <factor> I think I'm gonna go to sleep...
[01:01] <CapSoft> matthew, the command is vba
[01:01] <tanki> woo-oo! i have a unique hostname that inspires indinviduality and creativity
[01:02] <CapSoft> tanki, let me guess: HOSTNAME
[01:02] <trevi> tanki: SOUP CAN
[01:02] <CapSoft> podge, have you found it?
[01:02] <tanki> no i meant on irc
[01:03] <concept10> Sorry guys, I have to share this.. it is too funny to me: http://divinebluelotus.blogspot.com/
[01:03] <CapSoft> lmao
[01:03] <concept10> so simple but funny
[01:03] <CapSoft> you can