[09:31] <intelikey> you're using ff?    try konqueror
[09:31] <s007> home with a small network
[09:32] <s007> no only me
[09:32] <intelikey> first step is to try to determine if the problem is site specific.  app specific  or network in general
[09:32] <s007> and also the connection is very slow
[09:32] <hastesaver> s007, yeah, try other browsers (konqueror, etc.) as intelikey said.
[09:33] <s007> ok how or where do i get konqueror new to ubuntu
[09:33] <hastesaver> maybe something's wrong with the DNS, but that doesn't explain why obscure sites like "ninemsn" (whatever it is) should work and not Google
[09:33] <hastesaver> s007, hit Alt-F2 and type konqueror
[09:34] <intelikey> s007 we are assuming you have kde because you are in the "K"ubuntu channel.
[09:34] <s007> ok i did
[09:34] <s007> and tthen??
[09:35] <s007> and then??
[09:35] <kev1n> which music player is most suitable to play live streaming from live.com please
[09:35] <intelikey> and then ??
[09:36] <s007> conqueror??
[09:36] <superjoe> intelikey, just finished reconfigure.  lets see if it fixed the problem
[09:36] <s007> konqueror
[09:37] <intelikey> s007 so does it work or not ?
[09:38] <s007> no i do i find konqueror
[09:38] <kev1n> which music player is most suitable to play live streaming from live365.com please
[09:39] <flaccid> !postfix
[09:39] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[09:39] <hastesaver> s007, if you've found konqueror, it's a browser -- like Firefox. You type addresses of web pages and see if they work :-)
[09:39] <s007> no not coming up
[09:39] <kev1n> !streaming audio
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streaming audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <intelikey> hastesaver i'm thinking he probably doesn't have kubuntu or kde
[09:40] <s007> how do i install konqueror
[09:40] <Lathiat> kev1n: what formatis live365?
[09:40] <intelikey> don't
[09:40] <s007> i have ubuntu
[09:40] <kev1n> i am not sure lathiat...
[09:40] <kev1n> i know realplayer and WMP can play it
[09:41] <kev1n> but I want a linux version now
[09:41] <intelikey> s007 don't go installing things, just ask in channel  #ubuntu      it's for your system.
[09:41] <superjoe> intelikey.  package managers still wont open "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[09:41] <superjoe> any ideas b4 I reininstall kubuntu.
[09:41] <fowlduck-> superjoe: ps -A | grep apt
[09:42] <intelikey> superjoe yes.    sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:42] <fowlduck-> superjoe: ps -A | grep dpkg
[09:42] <s007> where is channel ubuntu
[09:42] <N3rg4r> !wine
[09:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:43] <intelikey> this is channel #kubuntu
[09:43] <intelikey> do the math.
[09:43] <N3rg4r> s007, type "/j #ubuntu"
[09:44] <intelikey> s007 type in this window.                                     /join #ubuntu
[09:45] <intelikey> and welcome to irc.  the internet of entercourse via text
[09:45] <superjoe> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[09:46] <intelikey> did you rm the lock file ?
[09:46] <intelikey> superjoe ^
[09:46] <superjoe> fowlduck intelikey tried both of those, still not working
[09:47] <intelikey> superjoe ok one more in    sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[09:47] <shad0wjack> ive had adept not shut down properly then i tried to relaunch it and got that messaged. what is did was open ksysgaurd and kill it
[09:48] <fowlduck-> superjoe: what i told you is just for finding processes using the packaging system
[09:48] <intelikey> shad0wjack yeah if it is running in the background
[09:49] <superjoe> ok so how do I kill the process
[09:50] <intelikey> for Q in dpkg apt-get aptitude dselect ;do sudo killall $Q ;done
[09:51] <intelikey> oh... add adept and synaptic to the list
[09:51] <intelikey> for Q in synaptic adept dpkg apt-get aptitude dselect ;do sudo killall $Q ;done
[09:51] <intelikey> if that don't get it i don't know what will    :)
[09:52] <intelikey> but ksysguard should work also.
[09:54] <superjoe> like this "sudo killall $apt-get aptitude adept synaptic s ;done"
[09:56] <superjoe> intelikey, is this right?  sudo killall $apt-get aptitude adept synaptic s ;done"
[09:57] <shad0wjack> ive never used konversation before. ive always used xchat. i like it, it got a cleaner ui than xchat
[09:57] <intelikey> no
[09:58] <intelikey> superjoe killall only takes one arg at a time  that's why i used a 'for loop' in the command i gave
[09:59] <kraut> moin
[10:00] <N3rg4r> alright how do i reinstall KDE???
[10:01] <superjoe> so just like you typed it "for Q in synaptic adept dpkg apt-get aptitude adept synaptic dselect ;do sudo killall $Q ;done
[10:01] <intelikey> yep
[10:02] <superjoe> thanks, sometimes I don't know is explanation and what is the commands
[10:04] <N3rg4r> how do i reinstall KDE???
[10:04] <intelikey> logout
[10:04] <N3rg4r> me?
[10:04] <intelikey> yes   or hit   ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:05] <N3rg4r> i installed gnome
[10:05] <N3rg4r> i'm in gnome right now
[10:05] <intelikey> oh you said reinstall    i read restart
[10:05] <intelikey> ooops my bad.
[10:05] <superjoe> intelikey "no process killed" for all.  guess its time for clean install  i think I changed my video settings accidentally during the reconfigure.
[10:05] <N3rg4r> np
[10:06] <intelikey> superjoe you did the       sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock      command ?
[10:06] <intelikey> and adept still wont start ?
[10:06] <intelikey> N3rg4r did you uninstall it ?
[10:06] <N3rg4r> no,
[10:07] <intelikey> N3rg4r then why are you wanting to "reinstall" it ?
[10:07] <N3rg4r> but i want to get rid of an error message
[10:07] <intelikey> N3rg4r what error message ?
[10:07] <superjoe> intelikey, yep, no fix
[10:07] <N3rg4r> the file protocol died unexpectedly or soemthing like that
[10:08] <flaccid> N3rg4r: did you google the error
[10:08] <superjoe> nope none of them
[10:08] <N3rg4r> the weird thing is that it showed also when running the live cd
[10:09] <hastesaver> Can I ask KDE to use a particular theme for just one application?
[10:09] <flaccid> hastesaver: no
[10:10] <superjoe> intelikey, what's the superuser command again.  I'll write it down this time
[10:10] <unix_infidel> sudo?
[10:10] <intelikey> superjoe    what does      sudo apt-get update      tell you ?
[10:10] <hastesaver> flaccid, ok, thanks. Coming (back) from GNOME, it feels like there is nothing that KDE cannot do, so I tend to get carried away sometimes :-)
[10:10] <intelikey> superjoe sudo -i
[10:11] <superjoe> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:11] <intelikey> superjoe kdesu <app-name>     for running kde apps as root
[10:11] <flaccid> hastesaver you can configure gtk fonts in system settings however
[10:11] <intelikey> and you did that right ?
[10:12] <intelikey> superjoe   you did what the error message said ?
[10:12] <hastesaver> flaccid, ok... the default GTK colours make "greyed-out" menu entries almost impossible to see.
[10:13] <ZuluNut> hi guys, How would I change the default operating system to load in GRUB to be windowsXP ?
[10:13] <zzco> blah
[10:13] <smoothies> where is the slowness fix option in beryl settings manager, no one in xgl channgel so i'm asking here
[10:13] <smoothies> o and is there vista-like flip3d for kubuntu?
[10:13] <zzco> kompmgr has run away with processes on my other computer
[10:13] <intelikey> ZuluNut edit /boot/grub/menu.lst   and set the one you want as default
[10:13] <flaccid> hastesaver there is gtk styles as well there
[10:14] <N3rg4r> intelikey, any ideas?
[10:14] <ZuluNut> intelikey: Thanks !
[10:14] <ZuluNut> intelikey: I need to login as root ?
[10:15] <hastesaver> flaccid, it's currently set to "Use my KDE style in GTK apps"... I must try figuring out which GTK style is closest to this (or at any rate, which one is least ugly)
[10:15] <flaccid> i have a very bad bug. my samba workgroup changes back to "WORKGROUP" all the time either on reboot or randomly. anybody heard of this its another very bad bug
[10:15] <intelikey> N3rg4r ?   <=>  <flaccid> N3rg4r: did you google the error   <<< that ?
[10:15] <flaccid> hastesaver have fun
[10:15] <intelikey> ZuluNut you have to edit as root.  you don't have to login as root.
[10:15] <superjoe> intelikey that was easy.  fixed it.  tried that at first but didn't know sudo -i, then got sidetracked w reconfigur -a.
[10:15] <intelikey> !sudo | ZuluNut
[10:15] <ubotu> ZuluNut: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:16] <intelikey> !kdesu | ZuluNut
[10:16] <ubotu> ZuluNut: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:16] <ZuluNut> cool, but for some reason when I installed kubuntu it did not ask me for a root password
[10:16] <ZuluNut> only for a user + pass..
[10:16] <intelikey> ZuluNut yep
[10:17] <ZuluNut> so when i try to login as root it says login fails
[10:17] <intelikey> ZuluNut https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo    read the link
[10:17] <ZuluNut> ok
[10:17] <intelikey> ZuluNut then if you want to change things just ask.  i'll be glad to tell you how.
[10:18] <ZuluNut> aha super secure i see
[10:18] <intelikey> not really.
[10:18] <zzco> I'm waiting for kompmgr to free my computer up enough to do something about it
[10:18] <intelikey> root jr.  is only as secure as your user password really.
[10:18] <ZuluNut> ok im gonna reboot in kubuntu now
[10:18] <superjoe> thats all right I deserve that.  but now I know sudo i, so won't happen again and the tab key in the terminal to click ok.
[10:19] <hastesaver> flaccid, those styles ought to take effect immediately :(
[10:19] <flaccid> hastesaver agreed
[10:19] <flaccid> heh windows can at least do that
[10:19] <superjoe> if I'd known those 2 things I would have saved myself 2 hours of frustration.
[10:20] <superjoe> thanks for saving me from having to reinstall though.
[10:20] <intelikey> zzco hehhe  you might now consider setting limits on things so that can't happen again.     ulimit  and  /etc/security/*   are good.
[10:20] <hastesaver> flaccid, and it's strange that KDE isn't configured to remember window geometries by default. Isn't that what everyone would want? :-)
[10:20] <flaccid> hastesaver that is the repsonsibility of the program usually
[10:21] <intelikey> superjoe if we learn from our mistakes, the trip is worth it.
[10:21] <flaccid> hastesaver otherwise its a bit of an overhead to keep a database of geometries for all X binaries run ..
[10:21] <hastesaver> flaccid, Really? But I can go to "Special Window Settings" and ask KDE to remember it for this program...
[10:21] <hastesaver> flaccid, right, makes sense
[10:22] <flaccid> hastesaver in your case that could be conflicting with the programs geometrie saved config trying to load as well. also if you are running a gtk app in kde or vice versa..
[10:22] <N3rg4r> flaccid, a very quick and simple question. every time I click on a link in Xchat or open my mail inbox in Gaim, konqueror opens and not firefox
[10:22] <hastesaver> N3rg4r, and you're on Kubuntu, I assume?
[10:22] <intelikey> i'm disappointed.   my hacker has totally given up.  and i'm still not rooted.  :(
[10:23] <unix_infidel> intelikey: your hacker?
[10:23] <intelikey> yeah and i even started sshd for him.
[10:23] <flaccid> N3rg4r that could be Xchat.. i don't use it. check its configuration other wise check system settings > default applications
[10:23] <superjoe> intelikey yes he he, i think screen res got changed. only options now in monitor settings is 1024x786 and 800x600.
[10:23] <superjoe> is this right. any ideas
[10:23] <unix_infidel> intelikey: i dont know anyone with any degree of with that would attempt something like that without the proper legal documents.
[10:24] <unix_infidel> wit*
[10:24] <unix_infidel> Not that any ISP's night noc is any good anymore :P
[10:25] <N3rg4r> flaccid, i changed to FF in default apps
[10:25] <intelikey> well i guess the "tor" was all the "legal documents" he thought he needed   lol
[10:26] <flaccid> cool
[10:26] <flaccid> something is removing my workgroup and server string directives from smb.conf on reboot
[10:26] <flaccid> wtf
[10:27] <intelikey> superjoe one can always     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg         at any time to change the X setup.
[10:27] <flaccid> intelikey: which is great if they had to fix something in there :)
[10:27] <flaccid> you probably get free wacoms as well
[10:28] <ilan__> hi intelikey, menu.lst is open here, what lines are the lines I should edit for changing the default list ?
[10:28] <intelikey> flaccid yes    but as the ubuntu team says   "that doesn't hurt anything"
[10:28] <flaccid> hahahahahah
[10:28] <flaccid> but if you had to do something else to xorg.conf.. goodbye to those directives :)
[10:29] <flaccid> chances are with ubuntu you had to do something manual, especially if you want to use the prop. drivers
[10:29] <intelikey> ZuluNut set the one you want as    save-default    or some such.     flaccid may use gnome, and can tell you the exacts.
[10:30] <ZuluNut> I use kde
[10:30] <flaccid> huh?
[10:30] <intelikey> errr not gnome   grub
[10:30] <intelikey> grub
[10:30] <intelikey> default change.
[10:31] <ZuluNut> so many variables with the word default in them
[10:32] <ZuluNut> I see savedefault var, isn't there a GUI for the bootloader ?
[10:32] <intelikey> save_default  or save-default   or something like that.   i don't use grub.
[10:33] <intelikey> but all you have to do is add that to the entry you want to be default.
[10:33] <ZuluNut> I only see savedfault
[10:33] <intelikey> that's it
[10:33] <ZuluNut> what entry ?
[10:33] <ScarFreewill> is it possable to upgrade from suse 9.1 to ubuntu without formating?
[10:33] <intelikey> the windows
[10:34] <intelikey> ScarFreewill possable  yes.  can you do it.  no.    how do i know,  cause you asked.
[10:34] <N3rg4r> ZuluNut, what os you want to make default??
[10:34] <ZuluNut> intelikey: so i have to locate the windows boot entry and paste the line in their?
[10:34] <ZuluNut> N3rg4r: winxp
[10:35] <N3rg4r> ZuluNut, you need to know what entry XP is
[10:36] <N3rg4r> then find this text
[10:36] <N3rg4r> WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your
[10:36] <N3rg4r> # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
[10:36] <N3rg4r> default		0
[10:36] <ZuluNut> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[10:37] <N3rg4r> but you need to know what entry XP is, in the GRUB menu, when u boot up
[10:37] <ZuluNut> as in a number value?
[10:37] <ZuluNut> like 1/2/3/4 ?
[10:37] <N3rg4r> yes
[10:37] <ZuluNut> hmm
[10:37] <N3rg4r> but 0 being the first one
[10:37] <ZuluNut> i see
[10:37] <ZuluNut> id need to reboot and count again
[10:37] <N3rg4r> then change that default 0 for the entry XP is
[10:38] <ZuluNut> so i replace the 0 with the number
[10:38] <ZuluNut> ok cool
[10:38] <N3rg4r> indeed
[10:38] <ZuluNut> lemme try that
[10:38] <DaveQB> I cant chroot in my Edgy amd64 Desktop, just says cant run command /bin/bash
[10:38] <N3rg4r> it is usually 4 i think
[10:38] <DaveQB> I tried mkdir bin and copying bash into the chroot dir, but no luck
[10:38] <N3rg4r> remember that the first one is 0
[10:38] <N3rg4r> damn
[10:38] <N3rg4r> hes gone
[10:39] <ScarFreewill> does feisty crash on the livecd for any one?
[10:40] <N3rg4r> brb as Nergar
[10:40] <intelikey> N3rg4r can't you just use savedefault  and type default by the one you want      i know there is something like that in grub
[10:40] <N3rg4r> i really don't know
[10:40] <N3rg4r> thats the way i helped out myself ;)
[10:40] <ScarFreewill> if i go to the page after you select your timezore x throws this weard small boxes all over the screen
[10:41] <flaccid> read the grub manual :)
[10:42] <N3rg4r> intelikey, i think your right
[10:42] <N3rg4r> brb as nergar
[10:42] <ZuluNut> N3rg4r: ok, so i counted it as 4 with the line saying 'other operating systems"
[10:43] <N3rg4r> yes, conut also the line
[10:43] <ZuluNut> 1) ubuntu 2) Ubuntu Generic 3) Ubuntu Memtest 4) other operating system 5) WinXp
[10:43] <intelikey> flaccid hehhe the man page is like almost like, you know, like nearly blank you know.    lol
[10:43] <N3rg4r> then it is 4
[10:43] <ZuluNut> ok cool
[10:43] <flaccid> intelikey manual not man page :)
[10:44] <N3rg4r> ZuluNut, brb don't go away
[10:44] <ZuluNut> you count the line saying 'other operating systems:' ?
[10:44] <N3rg4r> yes
[10:44] <vado> Hi`
[10:44] <ZuluNut> k
[10:44] <N3rg4r> ZuluNut, brb don't go away
[10:45] <intelikey> flaccid care to point at it ?
[10:46] <montoya> Hi, kdevelop is translated to italian in kubuntu?
[10:46] <ZuluNut> then i have 2 more issues with kubuntu -- my bluetooth mouse and video drivers :p
[10:46] <intelikey> ah nm.  grub-doc - Documentation for GRand Unified Bootloader    found it.
[10:46] <flaccid> intelikey: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[10:47] <Jazon> hi guys
[10:47] <ZuluNut> N3rg4r: i'm going to reboot to check if it's effective
[10:47] <Jazon> problems with swap after moving to edgy.  it is saying invalid swap signature
[10:48] <Jazon> any ideas how to fix?
[10:48] <superjoe_> intelikey, how long you been using linux?
[10:48] <intelikey> oh a day or two.
[10:49] <Nergar> ok i'm back
[10:50] <superjoe_> ha
[10:50] <superjoe_> probably since you were ten huh?
[10:52] <superjoe_> anyone know how long its supposed to take for sun-java-bin to install. its been stuck at 8
[10:53] <superjoe_> 8% for five minutes
[10:54] <Pensa`MIA> what's the command for tweaking nvidia settings?
[10:55] <Nergar>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY nergar
[10:55] <BrianSteffens> lol
[10:55] <Nergar> sorry
[10:55] <intelikey> superjoe_ when i was 10  a computer was a huge machine that read a punch card or the realy nice ones had real to real tape   and a machine the size of your house/apartment could do almost as much as your watch now.    (assuming your watch is not to fancy)
[10:55] <flaccid> tahts how big my watch is intelikey
[10:56] <intelikey> :)
[10:56] <flaccid> also why i never leave my house. the watch is too big and heavy
[10:57] <ScarFreewill> Nergar: super lol that happend to me too once :PP
[10:57] <superjoe_> intelikey, guess your not still 20 then, hey im installing java in adept updater and in details theres the
[10:57] <Nergar> ScarFreewill, it wont recognice me
[10:57] <Nergar> :(
[10:58] <superjoe_> license agreement but only about 1 inch of it showing and cant arow down or tab to click ok?
[10:58] <ScarFreewill> i need help feisty doesn't run on my or my bro's pc :(
[10:59] <superjoe_> when click show details its says size 143x33.  any ideas?
[11:00] <flaccid> superjoe_: i don't know if adept/gui updaters support post config scripts/ncurses or whatever. maybe you'll have to update via cli
[11:00] <BrianSteffens> ScarFreewill does Edgy?
[11:00] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: yes
[11:00] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: (for both)
[11:01] <BrianSteffens> ScarFreewill what do you mean by doesn't run?
[11:01] <superjoe_> how do i cancel out of the update in adept?
[11:01] <BrianSteffens> superjoe_ UNPLUG YOUR COMPUTER FAST GO lol j/k
[11:01] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: well it doesn't install ...
[11:02] <superjoe_> brian, What?
[11:02] <superjoe_> joke right?
[11:02] <intelikey> superjoe_ right
[11:02] <BrianSteffens> ScarFreewill: is there an error? or a spot where it hangs up? the info you've given could mean anything from the disc image not being burned right to a problem partitioning
[11:02] <BrianSteffens> superjoe_ yea lol sorry ><
[11:02] <simeon> hallo, hab da eine frage zur einrichtung meiner bluetooth maus
[11:02] <simeon> kennt sich da jemand aus??
[11:03] <fdoving> !de | simeon
[11:03] <ubotu> simeon: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:03] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: I go into the livecd and then run install and after I choose the timezone then my x throws me with lots of colored small boxes
[11:03] <simeon> join #kubuntu-de
[11:03] <intelikey> Zrich ?
[11:03] <superjoe_> no really though, should I just exit adept or will this mess up my packages again?
[11:04] <intelikey> if it does,  now you know how to fix it.
[11:04] <intelikey> and start with the error message this time...
[11:04] <intelikey> :)
[11:05] <superjoe_> true, true :) where do I find cli?
[11:05] <intelikey> !cli
[11:05] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:06] <BrianSteffens> ScarFreewill: sounds like a video driver thing. you can't install it at all through the colored boxes?
[11:08] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: i can't see anything but i supose there is still mouse and keyboard input
[11:08] <fdoving> !away > nergar
[11:08] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: but i don't know what they will ask me further...
[11:09] <vega-> Nergar: nobody's interested
[11:09] <BrianSteffens> ScarFreewill: if i were you i'd post the issue on the forums so that the devs and other users can be aware of it. but remember feisty is in extreme testing right now and there are bound to be plenty of problems. dapper/edgy are for actual use, feisty is for testing only
[11:09] <vega-> (don't use public away/back messages)
[11:09] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: i have :(
[11:10] <ScarFreewill> BrianSteffens: and i was thinking of posting at launchpad too...
[11:10] <vega-> ScarFreewill: /j #ubuntu+1
[11:10] <ScarFreewill> i have tried asking there too serveral times :P
[11:10] <BrianSteffens> vega- that's a cool name for a channel, guessing that's for feisty?
[11:10] <vega-> ok
[11:11] <vega-> BrianSteffens: yes, or any version currently in development..
[11:11] <BrianSteffens> nice.
[11:11] <ScarFreewill> vega-: i'd go try again though.,..
[11:12] <BrianSteffens> can you install drivers and restart X while on the livecd anyone?
[11:12] <mikmet_> I would be very happy if someone can help me with this
[11:12] <mikmet_> I get following error: "module monitor&display couldn't be loaded"
[11:14] <BrianSteffens> mikmet: were you recently messing with /etc/X11/xorg.conf or isntalling anything video-related?
[11:14] <superjoe_>  intelikey what was that command again "sudo configure -a"?  the system is not telling me what do this time
[11:15] <flaccid> i just realised i'm sitting in front a windows box, a linux box and a mac box using all 3
[11:15] <mikmet_> no i just did regular system update yesterday
[11:15] <flaccid> heh
[11:16] <BrianSteffens> flaccid: the linux and the mac boxes are kosher but ditch that windows crap man =)
[11:16] <hyper_ch> BrianSteffens: why? Even windows has its right to exist.. and if it is only for gaming
[11:16] <sf_> scarfreewill is gone :P
[11:17] <sf_> anyways i was saying: my friend has a nv 6600 and only dapper works for him he has used it for about a month any only done his updates now but the updates broke his drivers
[11:17] <flaccid> BrianSteffens can't its my gf's puter
[11:17] <BrianSteffens> hyper_ch: lol just messing around =p
[11:18] <BrianSteffens> hyper_ch: i actually have a windows machine too, for compatibility reasons lol
[11:18] <hyper_ch> BrianSteffens: I have vmware for my palm and lotus notes and photoshop and alltunes :(
[11:19] <flaccid> ouch
[11:19] <hyper_ch> ouch?
[11:19] <flaccid> on the lotus notes thing
[11:20] <hyper_ch> flaccid: all of university runs on notes.. I have to inscribe myself for the term through notes.. I have to inscribe myself for exams through notes... it's like the holy grail at university
[11:20] <mikmet_> BrianSteffens: do you have any suggestions as to what I should do?
[11:21] <flaccid> yeah i know its sad hyper
[11:23] <hyper_ch> flaccid: at least they don't use Outlook as groupware
[11:23] <BrianSteffens> mikmet_ try (in Konsole) kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and post the contents in pastebin
[11:24] <xst_> After upgrading to edgy the fonts in emacs became very ugly and were no longer antialized. How can I fix that?
[11:25] <hyper_ch> uhhh... upgrading... don't people normally advice against upgrading from dapper to edgy?
[11:26] <mroczek> hi!
[11:26] <hyper_ch> hi mroczek
[11:27] <intelikey> grail=cup ?
[11:27] <mikmet_> BrianSteffens: http://pastebin.com/847041
[11:27] <hyper_ch> intelikey: ???
[11:28] <flaccid> hyper_ch: groupware is bogus
[11:28] <hyper_ch> flaccid: well, Notes isn't that bad.. it's just a ressource hog and you have to get used to it
[11:29] <BrianSteffens> mikmet_ try this. go down to Section "Device" and change driver "nv" to say driver "vesa".. save it, then ctrl+alt+backspace and see if it still happens
[11:33] <rahab> hi there
[11:34] <intelikey> hyper_ch "The Holy Grail, was the cup used by our Savior in dispensing the wine at the last supper "  webster.   so i failed to make the connection in "all of university runs on notes....it's like the holy grail at university"     didn't mean anything by it.  just asked if that was the intended meaning ?
[11:34] <rahab> does anyone know how use an iso as a block device?
[11:34] <rahab> loopback doesnt work...
[11:35] <BrianSteffens> intelikey: you're kidding right?
[11:35] <intelikey> rahab   sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mount/point
[11:35] <eilker> hi to all, could anyone suggest me a download manager? like getright in windows...
[11:35] <intelikey> BrianSteffens not this time.
[11:35] <rahab> i need to pretend to have /dev/cdrom oder /dev/hda or something like that
[11:36] <rahab> intelikey: im afraid that doesnt work :(
[11:36] <intelikey> rahab why not ?
[11:37] <rahab> intelikey: vmware server doenst accept the device to be a common mountpoint lilke /mnt/xyz
[11:37] <hyper_ch> intelikey: I see... I thought the term "holy grail" is also used as a metaphor/allusion like Gordian Knot, Sword of Damokles, ... to say it's like the fundamental thing at university :) nothing can be done without it :)
[11:37] <BrianSteffens> intelikey: kinda hard to explain, but 'holy grail' can also mean like.. the end-all, be-all.. something every seeks or holds in reverance
[11:37] <BrianSteffens> yea that lol
[11:37] <crube> Where can I change the style of my login screen?
[11:38] <rahab> intelikey: i even tried to point him to /mnt/loop0 where the image is mounted via loopback. no luck
[11:38] <intelikey> rahab idk about vmware.  maybe vmware docs can answer that.
[11:39] <rahab> intelikey: mhh not really. thanx anyway
[11:39] <Guardian> please, since the last upgrade of my kubuntu 6.10 , usb flashdrives are no more mounted automatically, is there something to fix manually or is there a pending update to do ?
[11:40] <intelikey> BrianSteffens i guess if people worship things, that would apply.
[11:40] <eilker> !kget
[11:40] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[11:40] <mikmet_> BrianSteffens: Ok, well that didn't really work: now the resolution is 2048x1536@60Hz and the monitor module still isn't working
[11:41] <intelikey> rahab did you try just making a symlink in the /dev/ dir   ln -s /path/to/file.iso /dev/something   and point at /dev/something        have no idea if it'd work or not.
[11:42] <BrianSteffens> mikmet_ =/ ok, change the driver back to 'nv'.. i'm afraid i'm all out of ideas (i use ati card heh)
[11:42] <rahab> intelikey: just trying...
[11:42] <intelikey> !ati
[11:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:43] <flaccid> i think that kubuntu needs a quality assurance team
[11:43] <intelikey> flaccid if it had one it's release cycle would be like debian's.
[11:44] <mikmet_> ok, well thanks anyway
[11:44] <intelikey> which would suit me just fine   but three forths of the users would leave for a "newer version"  :)
[11:45] <flaccid> what would you suggest to improve the quality of production releases? at the moment i'm thinking of moving to gentoo or freebsd for desktop because of the amount of bugs and crap implementations
[11:46] <intelikey> flaccid ever use debian stable ?
[11:46] <Jucato> flaccid: how about trying to help out squash those bugs or test development versions?
[11:46] <MHK> can somebody tell me, why i can't log in a WEP-encrypted network with kubuntu but with windowsXP?
[11:46] <flaccid> intelikey: only for server
[11:46] <Jucato> #ubuntu-bugs, #ubuntu+1, #kubuntu-devel... channels you might want to go to
[11:46] <BrianSteffens> flaccid: dapper is quite stable. if you're looking for something that moves very very slow but is very very stable, there is always debian
[11:46] <flaccid> Jucato: i have an occupation and i'm a web developer only. can't help with these bugs
[11:47] <Jucato> there's also #ubuntu-motu for package/packaging issues
[11:47] <intelikey> very very slow ?    compared to what ?
[11:47] <BrianSteffens> flaccid: half of fixing bugs if finding and reporting them
[11:47] <Jucato> flaccid: how about some other ways you could help
[11:47] <flaccid> BrianSteffens: yeah i'd prefer freebsd w/ xorg
[11:47] <BrianSteffens> intelikey: slow as far as updates and release cycle
[11:47] <flaccid> BrianSteffens: they are reported by me. not much being done
[11:48] <intelikey> again compared to what ?
[11:48] <ubuntu> haii
[11:48] <flaccid> Jucato: i don't have anymore time than helping out in this channel
[11:48] <BrianSteffens> intelikey uh, this
[11:48] <ubuntu_> any body here
[11:48] <Jucato> flaccid: your life...
[11:48] <intelikey> yes indeed compared to this *buntu   it's very very slow.   but compared to M$  or even mac
[11:49] <flaccid> Jucato: yeah. see i been coming here for a while now. and i still don't know anyone who is an actually kubuntu developer, funny isn't it
[11:50] <smoothies> i downloaded splashy deb pack, right clicked and installed it, now i can't find it, lol where did it go? thx
[11:53] <ohmbr> hi... I magrate from Mandrita to Kubuntu.. I'm having problens on accents... all words thar has accent now is with other character whird...
[11:54] <ohmbr> does some body know how to fix that?
[12:04] <smoothies> hey how do i become channel moderators
[12:12] <MilhousePunkRock> ABATTOIR!!!!!!!!!!1
[12:12] <flaccid> gotta love windows . 5 hour virus scan
[12:13] <neo_> hi all
[12:14] <neo_> is anybody here that installed Zend Studio 5.5 on Kubuntu?
[12:15] <vito_web> ?
[12:16] <thibault> Bonjour
[12:16] <flaccid> cia0-
[12:17] <thibault> ya des francais ?
[12:17] <flaccid> negative
[12:17] <thibault> ok ok
[12:17] <flaccid> see ya later mate :)
[12:17] <flaccid> oops
[12:17] <flaccid> i mean g'day mate
[12:17] <flaccid> one too many drinks tonight
[12:18] <thibault> lol
[12:19] <flaccid> tis a bit quiet here
[12:19] <flaccid> are peoples systems actually working
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> flaccid: Maybe the regulars just got sick of a thousand newbies asking how to install beryl? ;-)
[12:25] <flaccid> hehe
[12:27] <flaccid> bbs
[12:27] <SkippyX> What's considered a newbie? I've been using linux since '00, ubuntu since last year, and I still drop simple questions into channels....
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> SkippyX: Well, that depends... People who want to install bery first and have no basic idea about how Linux works are newbies from my point of view
[12:30] <fdoving> SkippyX: we try not to use the newbie definition. We try use 'new users'. And who that is, depends on the topic.
[12:30] <SkippyX> Hmm. How it works? Well. installing? update your sources, and either apt-get install whatever or synaptic double click (!)
[12:30] <SkippyX> fdoving: That's a nice way of looking at it, imo.
[12:31] <SkippyX> Much nicer than - "rtfm, n00b." I've run across that once or twice. Certainly not since using ubuntu.
[12:31] <SkippyX> nice community, from what I've seen.
[12:32] <SkippyX> MilhousePunkRock: how so?
[12:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Less regulars in here, more "stupid" questions...
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Might be a misperception though since I am not in here much anymore...
[12:34] <SkippyX> I understand your frustration on that account. But, I well remember being brand new to linux, and not very adept at any OS, and trying to deal w/ mdk 7.2 - w/out the knowledge of how to find things out.
[12:34] <SkippyX> Imagine the frustration of the new user.
[12:34] <MilhousePunkRock> SkippyX: I have been through that, until I found the joys or IRC
[12:34] <SkippyX> IRC has been handy for me as well.
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Installed Kubuntu, was sooo happy to get my wireless working, adept does some updates, bang, wireless broken again...
[12:36] <SkippyX> I don't have any wireless devices, so that's not an issue for me. Right now I'm trying to figure out why I can't get the system to "see" my digical camera.
[12:36] <SkippyX> digital.
[12:36] <SkippyX> mea culpa.
[12:36] <MilhousePunkRock> SkippyX: Tried setting it to UMS instead of MTP?
[12:36] <MilhousePunkRock> If that is possible and MTP is the evil-doer...
[12:37] <SkippyX> I don't even know the difference between UMS & MTP.
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> UMS: Universal Mass Storage --> Camera will get handled like any replacable drive
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> MTP: Media Transfer Protocol --> You will need libmtp, strong nerves and a lot of patience
[12:38] <Stalk3r> ok, I have a question
[12:39] <SkippyX> Ahh. Ok - then UMS would be the choice.
[12:39] <Stalk3r> Why doesn't my system see my DVD media? the same device sees CD ROM media
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> SkippyX: Check if the camera has a setting for that...
[12:44] <Stalk3r> nobody knows, huh?
[12:44] <SkippyX> I think I'll need to do quite a bit of research. But - what about just getting a card reader? Stick the card in and if it's connected to the USB port it should be automatically seen, right?
[12:44] <SkippyX> Hmm. Did you d/l the kubuntu packages?
[12:44] <SkippyX> Or are you using ubuntu?
[12:45] <Stalk3r> SkippyX:  you talking to me?
[12:45] <SkippyX> Stalk3r: yes.
[12:45] <Stalk3r> Kubuntu dapper drake
[12:45] <SkippyX> OK - you've got a DVD drive on your computer and no CD drive?
[12:46] <Stalk3r> I have a dvd-rw and a cd rom, hdc and hdd respectively, hdc reads cd media just fine but not dvd media
[12:47] <superjoe> stalk 3 did you get the dvd codecs yet
[12:47] <SkippyX> OK - what do you mean by "media"? it won't read any DVD inserted? DVD movies? DVD data disks?
[12:47] <Stalk3r> I"ve only tried the dvds i burned
[12:47] <Stalk3r> with windows
[12:48] <Stalk3r> data dump, you see.
[12:48] <SkippyX> Ok - file backup.
[12:49] <Stalk3r> well crap
[12:49] <SkippyX> correct?
[12:49] <Stalk3r> right
[12:49] <Stalk3r> apparently if it's an mp3 only dvd it reads fine, but a mixed mp3/video dvd won't read
[12:50] <SkippyX> That's likely a codec issue. do you have broadband?
[12:50] <Stalk3r> yes.
[12:51] <MilhousePunkRock> wb flaccid
[12:51] <flaccid> yay my modem finally bridged
[12:51] <SkippyX> have you used automatix or easyubuntu to d/l the proprietary codecs that ubuntu/kubuntu can't legally ship w/ their install disks?
[12:51] <flaccid> thanks mate
[12:51] <Stalk3r> nope
[12:51] <Stalk3r> just installed a few hours ago
[12:52] <SkippyX> Ya might wanna try that. If the system can "see" the drive at all (music files - presumably copied onto a DVD-/+R), but not recognize video files, I would think it's a codec issue.
[12:52] <Stalk3r> thanks
[12:53] <Stalk3r> any clue where I'd find the apps in question?
[12:53] <SkippyX> Stalk3r: hang on a second....
[12:53] <ler_hydra> is there any (binary) nvidia driver guide other than the one on ubuntuguide?
[12:54] <ler_hydra> I seem to have a semi-borken system wrt the nvidia driver
[12:54] <Stalk3r> i saw like 6 nvidia driver packages when I used adept for updates earlier
[12:54] <ler_hydra> yeah, I've installed them via apt
[12:54] <fdoving> !nvidia | ler_hydra
[12:54] <ubotu> ler_hydra: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:54] <superjoe> stalk3r,  i'm using automatix2 to install the video codecs
[12:54] <Stalk3r> good luck
[12:55] <SkippyX> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - homepage for easyubuntu
[12:55] <ler_hydra> they still throw a hissy fit when trying to start x with the proprietary driver
[12:55] <SkippyX> http://www.getautomatix.com/ - page for automatix
[12:55] <Stalk3r> thanks SkippyX.
[12:55] <SkippyX> I used automatix on my system last year - worked like a charm.
[12:55] <fdoving> !automatix
[12:55] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:56] <SkippyX> fdoving: I had heard that, but have found no problems on my system having used it.
[12:56] <SkippyX> Used it on my father's as well.
[12:56] <SkippyX> Of course - there's always easyubuntu
[12:56] <fdoving> SkippyX: it works for some, once it makes problems they are often hard to fix.
[12:57] <SkippyX> Yes. Something else I had heard of being done is d/ling automatix, unpacking the script and reading it to d/l the appropriate drivers/codecs/whatever through apt.
[12:57] <SkippyX> That seems like the long way 'round, but I know one guy that did it that way
[12:58] <superjoe> just don't close it while its running, i had to reinstall kubuntu
[12:58] <superjoe> but am using right now and no problems
[12:59] <superjoe> if you use it to install java you have hit tab to the <ok> to accept license agreement
[12:59] <ler_hydra> ah, it seems that the ubuntuguide installation instruction isn't completely correct
[01:00] <ler_hydra> it works now, thankfully
[01:00] <ler_hydra> do you happen to have a dual-head guide too?
[01:00] <fdoving> nvidia dualhead?
[01:00] <fdoving> hmm.. that's twinview.
[01:00] <SkippyX> Geeze - how could i have forgotten about that?
[01:00] <ler_hydra> fdoving, uh, yeah
[01:01] <ler_hydra> that's right
[01:01] <SkippyX> Stalk3r: look up the unofficial ubuntu starter's guide as well...
[01:01] <SkippyX> hang on
[01:02] <SkippyX> Stalk3r: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:02] <Gmalex> hi
[01:02] <Stalk3r> kubuntu 6.06.1
[01:03] <SkippyX> OK - hang on.
[01:04] <SkippyX> OK - I'm using an ubuntu system - and I'm not sure if all the info in this guide is good for kubuntu - one of the others here likely has more info on that.
[01:04] <SkippyX> But - this was very, very handy for me. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:04] <SkippyX> I would think much of it would be the same.
[01:04] <SkippyX> is there an unofficial kubuntu guide?
[01:04] <Gmalex> i've a trouble with Kubuntu....while i'm working the screen of my notebook switchs off....in windows there's not this problem then i think is a problem related to Kubuntu
[01:05] <ler_hydra> !compiz
[01:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:05] <Gmalex> what can i do? Is the battery? The computer is linked to the electric line...
[01:06] <Stalk3r> SkippyX: bookmarked, thanks
[01:06] <SkippyX> No problem, mano.
[01:06] <SkippyX> I knew a new system can be a frustrating thing.
[01:06] <Stalk3r> kubuntu is ubuntu with the KDE interface, so I'm sure it applies
[01:06] <Gmalex> help me please :(
[01:07] <Stalk3r> easy ubuntu is performing installation tasks as we speak
[01:07] <SkippyX> Gmalex: I've no idea. I don't have a laptop. wish I could be of help.
[01:07] <Stalk3r> Gmalex: is it after 1 minute of inactivity?
[01:08] <Gmalex> Stalk3r: no instead it's after some minutes of activity
[01:08] <Gmalex> while i'm writing..
[01:09] <Stalk3r> and how do you get it back on?
[01:09] <Gmalex> i don't understand
[01:09] <Stalk3r> how do you restore your display?
[01:09] <Gmalex> i turn off computer manually
[01:10] <fdoving> Gmalex: what laptop is this?
[01:10] <Gmalex> Fujitsu Siemens Amilo A7620
[01:11] <Gmalex> i've had problems with the battery in the past..
[01:11] <SkippyX> Wow. ksirc is ugly.
[01:11] <Gmalex> but the notebook now is linked to the electric line
[01:11] <Stalk3r> Konversation is nice.
[01:11] <wimpies> HI all, I got this strange keyboard-shift problem.  when I press and hold the shift only the first character is presented shifted, then it reverts to non shifted
[01:12] <SkippyX> Stalk3r: Is it? I've been a loyal XChat user for a long time. Tried ksirc outta curisity.
[01:13] <MilhousePunkRock> SkippyX: Konversation is really nice... Better than Xchat imho
[01:13] <hyper_ch> anyone knows a site with pro/cons with regard to audio formats: mp3/wma/ogg/mpeg4/mpc?
[01:13] <SkippyX> Hmm.
[01:13] <Stalk3r> well, I'm still in defaul colors, so the white background is annoying, but other than that it seems functional, easily configurable and even set up my auto-identify with ease
[01:13] <ler_hydra> !compiz
[01:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> hyper_ch: I could tell you some...
[01:14] <superjoe> whats the best way to kill automatix 2.  it froze up on the dvd codecs
[01:14] <Xbehave> im looking through the forums, to find out how to install a webcam but i seam to get the impression im missing something basic, where should i start?
[01:14] <flaccid9951> with a gun
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Xbehave: Google!
[01:14] <Xbehave> how long has it been frozen for
[01:14] <SkippyX> Holy mackeral.......
[01:15] <SkippyX> 3.9 megs? That'll take forever over my dial-up line. Good thing I've gotta go shopping in a bit.
[01:15] <hyper_ch> MilhousePunkRock: well, ogg is free and better quality over mp3 right? but some mp3 players have difficulty playing ogg files right?
[01:15] <superjoe> there are 2 processes in system guard.  automatix.py and automatix2
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> hyper_ch: Indeed, portable players with ogg are still rare
[01:15] <superjoe> 10 minutes not doing anything
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> mp3 probably has the widest suppor
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> t
[01:15] <hyper_ch> MilhousePunkRock: but you can convert ogg to mp3 right?
[01:16] <MilhousePunkRock> hyper_ch: You can, but converting from one lossy format to another will result in even more loss
[01:16] <superjoe> xbehave should I kill both processes
[01:16] <Xbehave> i cant say i recently did but it could have messed up my system
[01:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Since they work somewhat differently, mp3s from oggs will sound worse than the same songs converted to mp3 straight from the cd
[01:17] <hyper_ch> MilhousePunkRock: if I download at 192kbps and convert it to 128 mp3... will it be bad?
[01:17] <superjoe> great, i just reinstalled,  this is getting annoying
[01:17] <MilhousePunkRock> hyper_ch: I don't know for sure, but I assume, any conversions will make the quality worse
[01:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Why not stick with 192? I think it's the best quality vs filesize ratio
[01:18] <hyper_ch> the 320 download is $ 3.90 and then 192 is $2.52.... hmmmmm.....
[01:18] <SkippyX> Um. http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers
[01:18] <SkippyX> .ogg compatable players.
[01:20] <superjoe> how do I kill a proccess that is root
[01:22] <hyper_ch> I guess I'm going to download them as .ogg ... someone said with rockbox you can listen to .ogg on ipods
[01:22] <wedgeV> superjoe: sudo kill ... ?
[01:28] <Alcapond> Hi I am looking for a wlan pcmcia-card which is natively supported by kubuntu - where can I find those information? Thx!
[01:30] <SkippyX> OK - I'm off. Have fun y'all
[01:39] <gupta> everytime I run kdialog I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39300/
[01:39] <ler_hydra> !twinview
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <gupta> kdialog runs all-right but I just don't want X to type these error messages
[01:40] <ler_hydra> hmm, anyone else know anything about getting twinview up and running?
[01:40] <ler_hydra> I have the nvidia driver installed now
[01:40] <_tor> Hey, Konversation is nice.
[01:42] <stdin> gupta: I know what those errors are
[01:42] <gupta> :)
[01:42] <SkippyX> Yeah- I can live w/ this. OK. Take it easy y'all. I'm off
[01:42] <stdin> it's to do with the wacom drivers in xorg.conf
[01:42] <stdin> easy to fix
[01:43] <gupta> how?
[01:43] <stdin> gupta: you just remove any instance of wacom in xorg.conf
[01:43] <stdin> gupta: if you post your xorg.conf on pastebin, I'll show you
[01:44] <gupta> cool, I'll restart X now
[01:44] <stdin> you done it already?
[01:48] <ler_hydra> !aiglx
[01:48] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[01:50] <larson9999> heard a new phrase today: vista FUD. i don't think that's possible
[01:51] <ler_hydra> isn't that mutually inclusive?
[01:51] <stdin> vista isn't FUD, MS just use FUD to promote it
[01:51] <larson9999> that's what i thought
[01:52] <larson9999> reminds me of the country song, "too much fun. what's that mean?"
[01:55] <JohnFlux> my normal user doesn't have permissions to mount my usb disk
[01:56] <JohnFlux> how do I allow the user to do that?
[01:56] <JohnFlux> $ mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/usbdisk/
[01:56] <JohnFlux> mount: only root can do that
[01:56] <stdin> use pmount
[01:57] <stdin> !pmount
[01:57] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[01:57] <JohnFlux> stdin: thanks ;-)
[01:57] <stdin> np
[01:57] <Jucato> hi JohnFlux :)
[01:57] <JohnFlux> yo :-)
[01:59] <gupta> thanks to whoever it was it helped me with that Xorg error messages problem.
[01:59] <stdin> you're welcome gupta :p
[02:02] <JohnFlux> mu usb hard disk keeps getting somehow disconnected and unmounted
[02:03] <JohnFlux> i'm trying to copy a few GB's to it, but half way through the computer umounts it, then auto detects it again
[02:03] <Roadrunner1985> !ntfs
[02:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:06] <Roadrunner1985> the script diskmount-script is not at the url.
[02:06] <Roadrunner1985> *diskmount
[02:09] <stdin> what are you trying to do Roadrunner1985
[02:09] <stdin> ?
[02:10] <zero-9376> can someone tell me how to set a default view profile in konqueror
[02:11] <Roadrunner1985> stdin: i try to mount my 2 ntfs harddisks (read & writeable)
[02:11] <zero-9376> my guess is its in a config file somewhere but i cant find anything on the net
[02:12] <stdin> !ntfs-3g | Roadrunner1985
[02:12] <ubotu> Roadrunner1985: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:12] <zero-9376> im using ntfs-3g and it is going well, a little cpu intensive but worth it
[02:13] <Roadrunner1985> uhm. what is 6.10? dapper or edgy?
[02:13] <stdin> Roadrunner1985: dapper
[02:13] <stdin> opps
[02:13] <stdin> edgy
[02:13] <stdin> 6.10 is edgy
[02:14] <Roadrunner1985> okay. thanks. im very new to linux and all this distris Oo
[02:14] <stdin> that's why we're here to help :D
[02:15] <fdoving> zero-9376: you can't change the default profile as you want. You can however start konq with the view profile of you choice.
[02:16] <ThomasZ> Anyone willing to tell me why I keep loosing /dev/hdc ? My cdrom never shows up there.  And doing a mknod doesn't survive a reboot :(
[02:16] <Jucato> fdoving: what do you mean you can't?
[02:17] <zero-9376> Jucato do u know where i can do it?
[02:17] <fdoving> Jucato: can you? - select the view profile you start when konqueor is started with 'konqueror' ?
[02:18] <Jucato> fdoving: I think it depends on what profile Konqueror loads by default when called with a plain "konqueror"
[02:18] <fdoving> zero-9376: you can start konqueror with a view profile of you choice with 'kfmclient openProfile profilename'
[02:18] <Jucato> fdoving: over here, "konqueror" loads the "webbrowsing" profile.
[02:18] <fdoving> Jucato: I don't know if that can be changed.
[02:19] <Jucato> um.. probably not, but you can certainly modify the webbrowsing profile.
[02:19] <fdoving> sure.
[02:19] <fdoving> and you can also open konqueror with other profiles.
[02:19] <ThomasZ> Jucato: your konqueror icon on kicker actually has a profile hardcode in there.
[02:19] <Roadrunner1985> okay thanks. now it runs =)
[02:19] <Jucato> definitely :)
[02:19] <fdoving> with the 'kfmclient openProfile'
[02:20] <Jucato> ThomasZ: heh I didn't notice. I changed it immediately after I made my own profile :)
[02:20] <Roadrunner1985> one more question. command to unzip .tar.gz is "tar xvfz archiv.tar.gz" ?
[02:21] <zero-9376> yes my kicker icon has webbrowser but i want to change the view for all windows that i open, possible???
[02:21] <Jucato> Roadrunner1985: tar xvzf archive.tar.gz afaik
[02:21] <Roadrunner1985> thanks =)
[02:21] <zero-9376> you can look up things like that in man pages too
[02:21] <zero-9376> they give examples
[02:22] <fdoving> zero-9376: depends on how you open konqueror, you can modify all the profiles :)
[02:22] <stdin> Roadrunner1985: you can take out the v in xvzf if you don't want to see all the files being untarred
[02:22] <zero-9376> well alot of the time i do it  from the run command dialog
[02:22] <ohmbr> hi, where do i set the charset of kubuntu?
[02:23] <ohmbr> is that possible?
[02:23] <maryen> hiho
[02:26] <fdoving> ohmbr: the default for the whole system is set by the locales. usually in /etc/environment, you can install the package 'localeconf', from konsole with the command: 'sudo apt-get install localeconf' - to configure those easily. (the package is in the universe repository, you need that enabled to get it)
[02:26] <maryen> hey fdoving
[02:27] <maryen> I'm finally returning to kubuntu ^ ^
[02:27] <fdoving> good thing :)
[02:27] <maryen> i tried to love ubuntu... but it was just too annoying
[02:28] <maryen> I especially hated how kde apps worked properly only half of the time while gnome apps always run fine in kde -.-
[02:29] <malc_> Hey I am on ubuntu atm and I am trying to apt-get kde.  However its coming up with ...
[02:29] <malc_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:29] <malc_>   kde: Depends: kdemultimedia (>= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed
[02:29] <malc_> E: Broken packages
[02:29] <malc_> Can anyone help?
[02:32] <stdin> malc_: that package in in the universe repository, so you need to enable that, but if you want to install kubuntu, you just need to install kubuntu-desktop
[02:32] <fdoving> malc_: you want to install what stdin says :)
[02:35] <ThomasZ> Hm cdwriter (hdc) is not found on edgy; any ideas on how to get it recognized?
[02:36] <malc_> Currently I have this configuration http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories shouldn't universe already b enabled
[02:38] <stdin> malc_: did you update the package list after?
[02:41] <stdin> malc_: if you're just trying to turn ubuntu in to kubuntu, or add kubuntu to ubuntu, then you just need to install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package
[02:41] <ThomasZ> nobody with knowledge about udev? and why my cdrom doesn't get an entry in /dev ?
[02:48] <hyper_ch> !fr
[02:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:54] <kzs> hello
[02:54] <kzs> i have a little problem with kubuntu.
[02:55] <kzs> a install a system but i dont know a root password.
[02:55] <stdin> use sudo
[02:55] <stdin> !sudo
[02:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:55] <kraut> how do i get the partition name of an UUID?
[02:56] <kzs> ooooooooooooooooooo
[02:56] <kzs><PHONE_NUMBER>000000000 million thanks
[02:56] <stdin> kzs: no problem
[02:56] <kzs> you are a god.
[02:57] <stdin> kraut: example:  sudo vol_id -u /dev/hda1
[02:57] <stdin> kzs: no, I just know a couple things :p
[02:57] <kzs> thx
[02:57] <kzs> by
[02:57] <kzs> by
[02:57] <stdin> cya
[02:59] <KDELearner> Hi. How do I install a  .tar.gz   file I downloaded?
[03:00] <KDELearner> I need help quickly since I need to leave soon
[03:00] <KDELearner> never mind. bye
[03:01] <kraut> stdin: thanks
[03:01] <stdin> no problem kraut
[03:02] <_arafat> !mono
[03:02] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[03:03] <kraut> !uuid
[03:03] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:06] <poppemie> hello everyone
[03:06] <poppemie> who of these users in this room are not positif about ubuntu?
[03:07] <stdin> since this is a kubuntu suppoet channel, not many
[03:07] <stdin> *support
[03:08] <poppemie> Does ubuntu 7.04 is really beter than 6.10?
[03:08] <poppemie> *is sorry for my bad english
[03:08] <stdin> not yet, as 7.04 hasn't been released yet
[03:08] <poppemie> but you can download the alpha version already no?
[03:09] <stdin> yes, Feisty Herd 1
[03:09] <poppemie> #warzone
[03:09] <poppemie> how can i go to other channels on IRC?
[03:09] <bsm>  /join
[03:09] <hyper_ch> hmm, herd 1... had problems gettting that installed :( somehow it kept messing up with the harddisk locations
[03:09] <bsm> without the space
[03:10] <bsm> poppemie: you better won't install any alpha versions
[03:10] <poppemie> ok
[03:10] <stdin> hyper_ch: my hda turned to sda :p
[03:10] <hyper_ch> stdin: yes, that mixed it up when I upgraded from edgy to feisty... and I wasn't able to make a clean install
[03:11] <hyper_ch> btw then I have my small little install.sh file and my backup repo file so I can quickly get my system up and running again as before
[03:11] <stdin> hyper_ch: it was a kernel bug in 2.6.19
[03:11] <hyper_ch> stdin: yeah, that was the kernel :)
[03:11] <hyper_ch> stdin: so that's fixed meanwhile?
[03:12] <poppemie> i don't think so
[03:12] <stdin> yeah, it's fixed now, in 2.6.20 :D
[03:12] <hyper_ch> stdin: because there's an annoying bug in xubuntu edgy
[03:12] <poppemie> is kernel 2.5.20 already out?
[03:12] <poppemie> 6*
[03:12] <stdin> yeah, i'm running 2.6.20-2-generic
[03:13] <vega-> 2.6.20 is not out
[03:13] <poppemie> wich rooms can i visit is there a list with all the rooms?
[03:13] <hyper_ch> stdin: since I got myself a 500GB disk today and am waiting for a few .oggs to be download I think I could give feisty another try....
[03:13] <stdin> vega-: then how come I'm running it?
[03:13] <vega-> http://www.kernel.org/
[03:13] <hyper_ch> !irc
[03:13] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[03:13] <vega-> stdin: you are running some ubuntu version
[03:13] <hyper_ch> !irc | poppemie
[03:13] <ubotu> poppemie: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[03:14] <poppemie> ok
[03:14] <stdin> vega-: i'm running feisty
[03:14] <vega-> yes
[03:14] <poppemie> where do you come from ? from europe? do you often use windows?
[03:14] <vega-> it's still not out :)
[03:15] <stdin> it still rocks tho :P
[03:15] <poppemie> can ubuntu beat windows vista i mean can ubuntu attire more users?
[03:15] <vega-> don't know about that
[03:15] <poppemie> what do you think guys
[03:16] <vega-> probably not
[03:16] <stdin> vista need a supercomputer to run, I'll stick with linux
[03:16] <vega-> well, maybe 10-20 years
[03:16] <poppemie> probably not why?
[03:17] <hyper_ch> poppemie: linux is about choices and some people choose windows... for a variety of reaons... compatibility, "ease" of use, because they don't know better, ....
[03:17] <vega-> too much people used to windows, gaming, ... etc.
[03:17] <stdin> people will buy a new PC and it will come with vista, that's one reason
[03:17] <poppemie> well if ubuntucompany makes self hardware
[03:17] <poppemie> than the users will come
[03:18] <DaveQB> poppemie:  Cononical
[03:18] <poppemie> yes i mean that
[03:18] <hyper_ch> poppemie: a lot more people are using linux now than 2-3 years ago... having a look at it getting it to run, compared to 2-3 years ago, it has become very simple to do... it still needs a lot of work but it's getting there
[03:19] <poppemie> it's getting there i don't understand sorry but my mother language is not english
[03:19] <Dr_willis> and compared to some of the disasters ive had witn windows.... Linux is easier in some cases.
[03:19] <poppemie> ok
[03:20] <poppemie> does someone now why warzone 2.0.4 never work :(:(:(:(:( and it's created for linux:(:(
[03:20] <stdin> one problem for people switching from windows is, linux isn't windows, a lot of people expect/want it to be the same
[03:20] <hyper_ch> Dr_willis: well, my PDA won't work with linux... that's the negativ side of linu... you don't have all that hardware and interoperability that you have on windows
[03:20] <poppemie> the solution is easy that de linuxdistro's makes self hardware
[03:21] <poppemie> and windows will fail at that moment
[03:21] <hyper_ch> stdin: there's this winxp theme for kde 3.5 and I bet if you put that on a kubuntu quite a large number of people wouldn't notice much of a difference
[03:21] <poppemie> what if the windows company burns of explode or burns by an earthquake
[03:21] <poppemie> do you also haver more problems with kde than gnome?
[03:21] <stdin> poppemie: windows don't make hardware, hardware is made for windows, that's the problem
[03:22] <hyper_ch> poppemie: that has no impact.... Microsoft has billions in stock... so loosing their HQ at Redmond wouldn't bother them that much
[03:22] <poppemie> you understand me well
[03:22] <stdin> hyper_ch: yeah, I've seen it, it's ugly :p
[03:22] <poppemie> gnome works better for me i don't know why
[03:22] <poppemie> things in kde works very bad sometimes
[03:22] <poppemie> :(
[03:22] <poppemie> but gnome is beautiful
[03:22] <stdin> you have the choice, choose what works for you
[03:22] <poppemie> and kde ugly
[03:23] <poppemie> if you change the skins of course
[03:23] <hyper_ch> and actually, it's good for Microsoft that Vista has such insane hardware requirements
[03:23] <stdin> kde isn't ugly, you can make it look like what you want
[03:23] <hyper_ch> OEM is the key
[03:23] <poppemie> yah i know but if i wanna change a skin in kde than it doesn't work
[03:23] <poppemie> that's the reason
[03:23] <stdin> hyper_ch: in a way, it's good for us all, it pushes hardware to be better
[03:24] <hyper_ch> you tell existing customers that the new version is much more secure, much better, much much much...
[03:24] <vega-> better=faster?
[03:24] <poppemie> do you know if there is somewhere with a number of the linuxusers?
[03:24] <hyper_ch> so they want ti, buy new hardware.... and get it already installed
[03:24] <Dr_willis> I change my kde themes all the time.. it just has a very flexiable system of theming different parts.. you have more options with kde.  gnome keeps things simple and locked down in many ways.
[03:24] <poppemie> iedereen zijn goesting e dr_willis
[03:24] <hyper_ch> so hardware sellers have actually an interest in OEM and selling windows
[03:24] <stdin> and gnome has that regedit clone thing, eww
[03:25] <poppemie> regedit in gnome?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> a regedit clone to edit a xml file. i think even..
[03:25] <vega-> gnome has less stuff but it works, kde has lots of stuff but everything isn't so well polished always, that's my experience
[03:25] <poppemie> ok vega
[03:25] <Dr_willis> gnome keeps a lot  of its settings in a huge config file with all the 'power options' that the gnome devs think would confuse 'people'
[03:25] <hyper_ch> xfce has all I need and runs nicely
[03:25] <poppemie> do you bought an ubuntu computer in a store?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> there are web sites that sell preinstalled linux machines.
[03:26] <stdin> system76 sells ubuntu PCs/laptops
[03:26] <poppemie> yes i know but i am a bit jaloes because in europe the linux pre installed computers
[03:26] <vega-> Dr_willis: that's called the "human interface guidelines / usability" or smthing like that :)
[03:26] <poppemie> are not so nice and quick
[03:26] <hyper_ch> stdin: hmmm... a lappie... I have to get one, one day :)
[03:26] <stdin> me too hyper_ch :p
[03:27] <hyper_ch> probably I get one by my new employer
[03:27] <poppemie> and in america the wireless card is supported
[03:27] <Dr_willis> vega-,  'programming interfaces for idiot users' :)
[03:27] <hyper_ch> but that would then be MacOS
[03:27] <poppemie> in europe they sometimes say the wireless thing isn't working always
[03:27] <poppemie> :(
[03:27] <hyper_ch> wireless and bluetooth are still immature technologies
[03:27] <poppemie> if you buy an pre installed computer
[03:27] <Dr_willis> as for the warzone questions earlier - be suer to get the lastest version at ----->   https://gna.org/projects/warzone/
[03:27] <stdin> i'm in the dark ages here, no wireless
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Wireless is SUch a disaster its scary.
[03:28] <hyper_ch> and most people here think WEP is safe....
[03:28] <Dr_willis> I just run wires.. faster and easier.. and much more reliable by like 1000% for me.
[03:28] <poppemie> wired is for me not possbile in this house
[03:28] <vega-> wireless has worked nicely a few years on my dell d610
[03:28] <Dr_willis> even under windows - i have  a hard time with wireless cards
[03:28] <poppemie> me too you know
[03:28] <vega-> also bluetooth
[03:29] <hyper_ch> actually, my wifi card needn't any special treating at all in dapper and edgy :)
[03:29] <poppemie> do you play sometimes 3D games in linux?
[03:29] <hyper_ch> I don't play any games
[03:29] <poppemie> never hyper_ch?
[03:29] <Dr_willis> Theres several 3d games out and more comming out every month.
[03:30] <stdin> frozen-bubble is kinda 3d :p
[03:30] <Dr_willis> hyper_ch,  lives in IRC. :)
[03:30] <poppemie> frozen bubble 3d hahaha
[03:30] <Dr_willis> like I should talk.. hehheh...
[03:30] <Dr_willis> IRC = the ultimate game.
[03:30] <stdin> I still play quake3 when I need that 3D fix
[03:31] <stdin> or just rotate my desktop cube :D
[03:31] <poppemie> is that stable already desktop cube?
[03:31] <poppemie> i mean the 3D program for linux
[03:31] <stdin> I use Beryl/AIGLX, that's stable for me
[03:32] <poppemie> can i run it on a Vmware ubuntu?
[03:32] <stdin> yeah
[03:32] <poppemie> but i thought 3d doesn't work on it
[03:32] <poppemie> where can i download it?
[03:32] <hyper_ch> nice, almost all .oggs downloaded... then I can plugin my new hdd
[03:33] <stdin> actually, I don't know if it works, I haven't tried
[03:33] <hyper_ch> I have doubts that it works in ubuntu if ubuntu is run as VM
[03:34] <poppemie> damn:'
[03:34] <stdin> there is  a LiveCD of SabayonLinux that has XGL/AIGLX so you can test it there
[03:34] <poppemie> ok thanks
[03:34] <stdin> but slow on a LiveCD tho
[03:35] <poppemie> slow on? what do you mean?
[03:36] <stdin> the effects are slow when you run beryl on the LiveCD
[03:36] <stdin> depends on you hardware tho
[03:36] <poppemie> ok if i chat a lot here my english will be better and better:)
[03:36] <hyper_ch> with 2 gigs ram and a decent processor and quick drive... it's shouldn't be too slow
[03:37] <stdin> it's always faster when you install
[03:37] <poppemie> that i understan
[03:37] <poppemie> d
[03:37] <stdin> Feisty will have hardware acceleration on by default too
[03:38] <hyper_ch> what does that do?
[03:38] <Dr_willis> "Eye candy now included" :)
[03:39] <stdin> that's AIGLX, it enables all the effects, but you still need beryl/compiz to get the effects
[03:39] <hyper_ch> ah
[03:39] <Jucato> "Eye candy now included" "Dr_willis now sold separately"
[03:39] <Dr_willis> "Not aviliable in stores!"
[03:39] <Jucato> hehe
[03:39] <Jucato> "Sold out"
[03:39] <Dr_willis> "Order now and get free - Leet Haxor Status"
[03:40] <Jucato> heh
[03:40] <poppemie> how many hours are you online in this rooms average?
[03:40] <poppemie> the whole day? just curious
[03:40] <poppemie> how fan you are
[03:40] <poppemie> wow amazing
[03:40] <stdin> me too
[03:40] <hyper_ch> the same as Jucato
[03:41] <poppemie> isn't that boring after a while?
[03:41] <Jucato> although I leave the room once in a while in order to enjoy some peace of mind :P
[03:41] <Jucato> one has to preserve his/her sanity
[03:41] <poppemie> sanity?
[03:41] <stdin> that's what /away is for :p
[03:42] <hyper_ch> stdin: /away? *g* I never us it
[03:42] <Jucato> stdin: nah, /away doesn't remove notifications and other visual reminders (like scrolling lines...lots of scrolling lines)
[03:42] <poppemie> ok
[03:42] <poppemie> guys i must be off
[03:42] <poppemie> see you later
[03:42] <stdin> Jucato: I set konversation to disable notifications while away
[03:43] <Jucato> stdin: yeah, but as long as the channel is open, I can't resist the urge...
[03:43] <stdin> :p
[03:43] <shadowhywind> morning/evening all
[03:44] <shadowhywind> Does anyone know if there is a way to "upgrade" tpa  64-bit kernel while leaivng the 32 bit untouched? or would i have to install 2 completely different kubuntus?
[03:44] <hyper_ch> only 4 more songs to download and then I'm away for some time :)
[03:46] <Blissex> shadowhywind: youn have to.
[03:47] <shadowhywind> dang, i was hoping i could do it like if i did a kernel upgrade, i get the old kernel on grub sort of thing
[03:48] <braddoro> I'm wondering if someone can helpme, I upgraded from dapper to edgy, and then I ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, now when I boot I get an error: fontconfig error: cannot load default config file  What do I have to do to fix this?
[03:50] <Blissex> shadowhywind: 64 bit mode is a different, even if tantalizing similar, architecture...
[03:50] <Blissex> braddoro: that is strange, check what you have in '/etc/fonts/'
[03:51] <braddoro> Blissex: i did but I don't know what I'm looking for, there are a bunch of xml files
[03:51] <braddoro> i googled and it said that something probably didn't get compiled correctly
[03:51] <Blissex> braddoro: there should be one called 'fonts.conf' and should be readable by everybody.
[03:51] <Blissex> braddoro: if you compiled some programs yourself, good luck :-).
[03:52] <braddoro> ok that could be the probelm
[03:52] <tmdx120> hi everyone. I want to test the security of my machine. Im are there any apps out there that will help?
[03:52] <joth> I'm running Kubuntu on my laptop, but I want to set up a partition and install windows on it. Can someone please point me to a good guide on the net?
[03:52] <zero-9376> can some1 tell me where to tell kde to turn on the numlock key at startup ive done it before but cant find it
[03:52] <braddoro> i have a fonts.conf.dpkg-new
[03:52] <braddoro> all of them are new
[03:52] <braddoro> like that
[03:53] <adz21c> zero-9376: Settings -> Periphals -> Keyboard
[03:53] <braddoro> Blissex: so it looks like the font package didn't do something right, can I rerun it?
[03:53] <Blissex> braddoro: you can just do 'mv /etc/fonts/fonts.conf.dpkg-new /etc/fonts/fonts.conf' and so the the others.
[03:54] <Blissex> braddoro: that's probably most reliable.
[03:54] <shadowhywind> what is the difference between the 386 kernel and the 686?
[03:54] <Jucato> !generic | shadowhywind
[03:54] <ubotu> shadowhywind: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[03:54] <braddoro> Blissex: so just rename the files?
[03:56] <zero-9376> tmdx120 try nessus i read something about it the other day
[03:56] <Blissex> braddoro: yes.
[03:56] <braddoro> Blissex: ok, i'll try that, thanks for the help
[03:59] <zero-9376> anyone know of an app to build a xbox iso for linux?
[04:00] <dec_> hello i am trying to upgrade to 6.10 and I am getting a failed to fetch error code 2 everytime I try anyone have a workaround?
[04:01] <dec_> hello i am trying to upgrade to 6.10 and I am getting a failed to fetch error code 2 everytime I try anyone have a workaround?
[04:01] <n8k99> dec_ did you apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:02] <dec_> no
[04:02] <bsm> dec_ how are you trying to upgrade?
[04:03] <dec_> apt-get-update is what I am using
[04:03] <n8k99> you need to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:03] <fdoving> !upgrade
[04:03] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:03] <dec_> will that eliminate error code 2
[04:04] <n8k99> check out that link there ^^^^^^^^
[04:06] <akhtet> hi
[04:07] <akhtet>  /quit
[04:07] <keesj__> hi
[04:12] <stefan> hi
[04:12] <stdin> hi
[04:12] <stefan> where are you come from ??
[04:13] <stdin> i'm from the UK
[04:15] <stefan> exactly??
[04:15] <stdin> birmingham, england
[04:17] <stefan> ok
[04:18] <stefan> so you favourite team is Villa or Birmingham ?? :P
[04:18] <stdin> :p villa
[04:19] <stefan> how old are you ?
[04:19] <stdin> 20, what's with all the biographical questions? :p
[04:20] <stefan> ok i finished :)
[04:20] <stdin> so, you in Poland?
[04:22] <stefan> yes
[04:23] <stefan> but why you know that??
[04:23] <stdin> :)
[04:23] <stdin> from your IP address
[04:23] <stefan> ok
[04:23] <stefan> you are linux user too ??
[04:23] <stdin> yeah, used it for 10 years
[04:25] <stefan> you i install my linux ten minutes ago :::)
[04:26] <stefan> and i am new here :)
[04:26] <stdin> ever used linux before?
[04:26] <stefan> only XP :)
[04:26] <stdin> yeah, that's not linux :p
[04:26] <stefan> i know :)
[04:26] <stefan> maj i have some question to you about linux ??
[04:27] <stdin> yes, this is a support channel after all :)
[04:27] <stefan> thx
[04:27] <stefan> I want you install some program
[04:28] <stefan> and i really don't how to start :/
[04:28] <tony_> what program do you want to install ?
[04:29] <stefan> Kadu
[04:30] <tony_> not in repository
[04:30] <montoya> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/kde/kdevelop
[04:30] <izprince> hey, silly question here, what CD burning software does Kubuntu come with?
[04:30] <stdin> izprince: k3b
[04:30] <stefan> ok
[04:30] <izprince> thank you :)
[04:30] <stdin> :D
[04:30] <montoya> Why kdevelop run in english!!! My locale is set to italian
[04:30] <stefan> another question
[04:31] <stefan> my linux boot normaly from hdd can i make something to boot it from floppy dusk ??
[04:31] <TheGateKeeper> stefan, installed dapper or edgy?
[04:31] <stefan> Kubuntu
[04:32] <TheGateKeeper> yes but which version?
[04:32] <stdin> aww, he's new you know
[04:32] <stefan> yeap i am new
[04:32] <stdin> stefan: did you download the CD, or get it from shipit?
[04:32] <stefan> but i recently download it from web page
[04:33] <tony_> probably is edgy
[04:34] <TheGateKeeper> stefan, probable edgy, open konsol & paste this command & tell me what is returns please: grep RELEASE /etc/lsb-release |cut -b 17-
[04:34] <Jucato> shipit only ships dapper for now.
[04:34] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: lsb_release -a will also do :)
[04:34] <stdin> or lsb_release -c
[04:34] <stdin> or -r
[04:35] <stdin> :P
[04:35] <Jucato> heh
[04:35] <stefan> 6.06
[04:35] <Jucato> -c is for the Codename, -r is for the Release (number)
[04:35] <stdin> yep
[04:35] <stdin> so dapper it is
[04:35] <ironfroggy_LT> i have a device i would like to monitor the network data of. is it difficult to toss in to ethernet cards to a box, and have them piped together, logging the data?
[04:35] <ironfroggy_LT> or is there a better way?
[04:36] <stdin> ironfroggy_LT: you can try wireshark
[04:36] <stdin> !wireshark
[04:36] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB
[04:36] <TheGateKeeper> stefan, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[04:37] <stefan> what is this??
[04:37] <ironfroggy_LT> i want to see if wiishop can be hijacked to installed my own packages :-D
[04:37] <TheGateKeeper> some usefull info for you to read
[04:37] <Jucato> stefan: one of the easiest guides for you to read would probably be the Kubuntu Desktop Guide that comes with the installation
[04:38] <stefan> ok thx
[04:38] <Jucato> it's quite simple and concise (although, too simple for my taste...)
[04:38] <stefan> but what about this booting ??
[04:38] <stefan> do you know how to make it ??
[04:38] <Jucato> what booting?
[04:38] <TheGateKeeper> do that from your bios
[04:39] <morphado> hello i have a problem with shutdown in kubuntu 6.10
[04:39] <daniel777> hihoo
[04:40] <stefan> from bios??
[04:40] <adridox> buenas
[04:40] <stefan> how??
[04:40] <morphado> although i have add the line acp= force to the line menu.ls
[04:40] <daniel777> i'm using KSubtitle, and the letter with  () i can't see, only i can see this symbol .
[04:40] <adridox> people here only speak english ?
[04:40] <daniel777> adridox
[04:40] <adridox> hi daniel777
[04:40] <The_Machine> What's the best way to get xvid avi file to DVD (playable in dvd player?)
[04:41] <daniel777> #ubuntu-es #kubuntu-es #edubuntu-es
[04:41] <daniel777> jejeje
[04:41] <The_Machine> maybe on the fly burn even?
[04:41] <morphado> any one can help please
[04:41] <morphado> any one can help please
[04:41] <adridox> daniel777: thnx
[04:42] <daniel777> adriox, the best is ubuntu... there are no many persons in kubuntu-es
[04:43] <adridox> daniel777: yes...
[04:43] <daniel777> jejeje
[04:43] <daniel777> hablas espaol?
[04:43] <adridox> siiii
[04:43] <adridox> XDD
[04:43] <daniel777> jajaja
[04:43] <daniel777> dalee
[04:44] <daniel777> tu demas me pueees ayudar :D
[04:44] <TheGateKeeper> stefan, when your machine boots up hold down the del (delete key) & that will take you into your BIOS settings. BE CAREFULL what you do, you can modify the boot order & set the first thing to boot from to be your floppy disk. But BE CAREFULL make sure you know what you are altering
[04:44] <adridox> a ver
[04:44] <daniel777> en el ksubtitle, enves se salir los tildes o, sale un . :S:S:S:S
[04:44] <adridox> mira te comento, mi problema es que no me va bien el teclado
[04:44] <stdin> TheGateKeeper: it's not always del
[04:44] <adridox> no van las teclas con altGr
[04:44] <Pirate-king> goodmorning
[04:44] <adridox> como por ejemplo, arroba y demas
[04:45] <mindspin> !es
[04:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:45] <adridox> jajaja
[04:45] <adridox> vale
[04:45] <adridox> voi para dentro :P
[04:45] <TheGateKeeper> stefan, stdin what ever the apprpriate key is, del, F1, whatever
[04:45] <adridox> kubuntu-es
[04:45] <Pirate-king> what is a good web cam program to use in kubuntu?
[04:45] <Pirate-king> easy to set up
[04:47] <tony_> i think the best thing is to find a webcam that would work with linux
[04:47] <adz21c> Pirate-king: Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 works a treat for me ... only cam I ever used. I used if in Kopete and gnomemeeting before
[04:47] <adz21c> it*
[04:48] <LjL> !es | daniel777, adridox
[04:48] <ubotu> daniel777, adridox: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:52] <thekid> hello
[04:52] <stdin> hi
[04:52] <thekid> what is a good web cam program to use in kubuntu?
[04:52] <thekid> easy to set up
[04:53] <stdin> you just asked that
[04:53] <thekid> yeah and no one answered
[04:53] <daniel777> !de | LjL
[04:53] <ubotu> LjL: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:54] <stdin> thekid, search for webcam in adept
[04:54] <thekid> ok
[04:55] <stdin> I don't use a webcam, so I don't know
[04:55] <thekid> ok want to change from windows
[04:55] <daniel777> stdin
[04:55] <adz21c> thekid: "Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 works a treat for me ... only cam I ever used. I used if in Kopete and gnomemeeting before"
[04:55] <stdin> daniel777
[04:55] <daniel777> can you help me:D
[04:55] <daniel777> a can wirte  with no problem
[04:56] <tdd1984> hey guys when using mget * how do i get it to say yes too all files, instead of it asking is it okay for every file to be copied?
[04:56] <daniel777> but i downloaded some subtitles from argenteam
[04:56] <daniel777> and in the ksubtitle i see  .
[04:56] <digitalfreedom> is there a program or util that i can get thats like check disk/scan disk and defrag for kubuntu?
[04:56] <stdin> maybe the subtitles are not in UTF8
[04:56] <daniel777> for example, i don't see antiptica, i see antip ica
[04:57] <digitalfreedom> daniel777:  have you got your language packs installed?
[04:57] <digitalfreedom> and charsets?
[04:57] <daniel777> i think so,
[04:57] <daniel777> i have gnome in spanish
[04:57] <stdin> digitalfreedom: fsck will check you disk automatically, and you don't need to defrag
[04:58] <digitalfreedom> no defrag on linux? please tell how this is possible /me is very intrigued
[04:59] <digitalfreedom> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[04:59] <digitalfreedom> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[04:59] <digitalfreedom> ehhhhhhhhhh ok
[04:59] <tdd1984> hey guys when using ftp mget, how do i get all files to download automatically instead of it asking yes or no for every file?
[04:59] <stdin> digitalfreedom: because linux (actually the filesystem ext3) stores files in spaces that fit, not like windows
[04:59] <digitalfreedom> oic thanx
[04:59] <digitalfreedom> so about that warning im getting
[04:59] <stdin> digitalfreedom: i said it will run automatically, on 30 mounts/reboots
[05:00] <digitalfreedom> can i run it manually? im at the konsole right now and its telling some bad stuff will happen
[05:00] <stdin> you need to run it on a unmounted fileststem
[05:01] <digitalfreedom> linux is all i have installed no dual boot for me
[05:01] <HymnToLife> why to you want fo fsck anyway ?
[05:01] <stdin> 'sudo shutdown -F -r' should reboot and run it for you, or you can do it from Live CD
[05:02] <digitalfreedom> well im just want to ensure my hdd is in good shap
[05:02] <digitalfreedom> shape
[05:03] <Roadrunner1985> hello. i did a little mistake. how can install grub to another harddisk?
[05:03] <Vegeta^> Is there softwares that can block certain websites (with password). If so what are they?
[05:03] <Roadrunner1985> ubuntu is installed on sda1 and grub is installed on hda1
[05:05] <stdin> Roadrunner1985: there is help on reinstalling GRUB here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:05] <Roadrunner1985> stdin. thanks a lot
[05:07] <m_> hi
[05:10] <Roadrunner1985> stin. sorry. my english is to bad to understand this. ill better reinstall my kubuntu
[05:10] <Roadrunner1985> *stdin sorry
[05:14] <lsmith> ahoi .. anyone running kubuntu in vmware?
[05:14] <lsmith> i am trying to install it on my windows laptop
[05:15] <tdd1984> hey guys how do i get all the files with mget? its not getting the folders only the files in the root?
[05:15] <lsmith> and after selecting install or safe boot from the menu vmware just hangs ..
[05:19] <Jucato> !beryl > Jucato
[05:20] <Dr_willis> lsmith,  i recall seeing some Ubuntu Vmware images allready made on some of the vmware sites. save you some time.
[05:20] <lsmith> ah right .. will check
[05:20] <Dr_willis> lsmith,  i dont recall any issues when i tried ubuntu +vmware  a few mo ago.
[05:20] <x-demon> anyone try kde4?
[05:22] <lsmith> found 6.0.6 in their appliance listing
[05:24] <lsmith> hmm
[05:25] <Dr_willis> there may be some other sites with newer versions.
[05:25] <tdd1984> hey guys how do i downlaod all folders/files from cli ftp? I tried mget   -R * and did not work
[05:25] <Dr_willis> check the forums/wiki perhaps?
[05:25] <tdd1984> I think it downlaoded the files out of the folders, but it did not create the folders?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> tdd1984,  may want to try 'wget' instead. I think a lot of the recursive features of ftp depend on the ftp server
[05:26] <Dr_willis> been years since i last used ftp
[05:26] <scheuri> anyone ever tried to import KMail (Mails and structure (with maildir)) into Evolution?
[05:28] <marcelo> hola soy nuevo en esto y no se como instalar amule en ubuntu!!!!!
[05:29] <arafat> !es
[05:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:30] <cacifali> marcelo, debes conectarte al canal kubuntu-es, aqui solamanete ingles
[05:31] <marcelo> thenky
[05:32] <hyper_ch> hiho
[05:33] <x-demon> who can give me a shell? :)
[05:33] <morphado> hello again
[05:33] <soulrider> !lock
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <stdin> x-demon: konsole
[05:33] <soulrider> !database locked
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about database locked - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <morphado> probleme with shutdown in kubuntu 6.1 any ideas
[05:33] <LjL> !botabuse
[05:33] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:33] <LjL> !adept crash fix
[05:33] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:33] <Jucato> :)
[05:34] <soulrider> thanks LjL
[05:34] <x-demon> i go to kde 4
[05:34] <x-demon> i must try it
[05:34] <scheuri> he is...
[05:34] <LjL> Jucato: well, i use a keyboard most of the time
[05:34] <x-demon> i download, now test...
[05:34] <Jucato> LjL: so do I :)
[05:34] <morphado> anyone can help please
[05:35] <LjL> Jucato: i also started to learn typing at about 3 ;-)
[05:35] <Jucato> lol now that's just... whacked :D
[05:35] <LjL> though the *way* i type would shock anybody who's been actually *trained* for touchtyping, i guess
[05:35] <LjL> Jucato: well... my C64 has the same age as myself
[05:35] <n8k99> ask your question morphado if someone can answer it they will
[05:35] <n8k99> ususally there is someone
[05:36] <n8k99> :)
[05:36] <LjL> Jucato: what i find bad with that is that the fingering is fixed. think of the word "jump" for example: you need to use the index finger three times in a row for J, U and M
[05:36] <morphado> my kubuntu 6.10 don't shutdown
[05:36] <morphado> when i do the computer hangs
[05:36] <Jucato> LjL: true... :)
[05:36] <n8k99> how have you tried to shutdown?
[05:37] <morphado> eh
[05:37] <LjL> Jucato: "my" way is more piano-like, i.e. fingering changes depending on the specific word. this probably makes typing uncommon words harder (i have to make up a fingering in my head first), but makes typing common words faster
[05:37] <morphado> by the normal
[05:37] <LjL> Jucato: for "jump" i use index, middle, index, ring for instance
[05:37] <n8k99> morphado: by normal do you mean the shutdown option on the kmenu?
[05:37] <morphado> yep
[05:37] <Jucato> LjL: heheh very flexible fingers... :)
[05:37] <Jucato> LjL: I can't imagine typing in any other way now... :(
[05:37] <morphado> i tried this in menu.ls   add acp= force
[05:38] <stdin> LjL: I type the same way as you then :p
[05:38] <n8k99> morphado: try opening a terminal (konsole) and typing sudo shutdown now
[05:38] <Dr_willis> acpi=force ya mean?
[05:38] <morphado> yes
[05:38] <morphado> sometimes it works
[05:38] <Dr_willis> is this a laptop? new machine? old machine?
[05:38] <morphado> pentium 4
[05:38] <morphado> gigabit card pc x
[05:38] <LjL> Jucato: hands move much more than with standard touchtyping. it also probably means i make many more typos... but hey, this was a problem with typewriters. we have backspace now :)
[05:39] <morphado> so i guess it is a pretty new one
[05:39] <LjL> stdin: i guess most people who can type fast but weren't actually trained with touchtyping do... although i suspect that learning to play piano at about the same time and pace i learned to type also gave it some distinctive characteristics :)
[05:40] <stdin> LjL: naver played the piano, not well anyway, but i've been typing for a long time, and prefre it to the mouse
[05:40] <mitch__> hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?
[05:41] <stdin> first thing i do after install is setup my shoutcut keys :p
[05:41] <Jucato> I played the piano years ago... but somehow it never carried over to the keyboard :)
[05:41] <LjL> stdin: well, that's interesting too, Apple apparently did a study where they compared how fast people could do things using the keyboard vs the mouse. the result was that on average they were faster with the *mouse*, but they *perceived* they were faster with the keyboard
[05:42] <LjL> which IMHO opens some interesting questions on how a GUI should be designed =)
[05:42] <Pirate-king> wher is a good place to compare ubuntu and kubuntu
[05:42] <LjL> on a computer
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Pirate-king,  one usesd gnome, other uses kde by default.. other then that they as basicially identical.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> install  both desktops..  use one for a while. then try the other.
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> just look at the differences between gnome and kde, and make your choice based on personal preference
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Theres many KDE apps that i use all the time. so even if i used gnome, id still be using those kde apps.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> theres also a few gnome apps i like.. so the reverse is true. :)
[05:43] <morphado> don't u thing it is a no sense to release a new distrubition with a serieus bug like this, i am going back to my 6.04
[05:43] <Dr_willis> If i install ubuntu, first thing i do is install the kubuntu-desktop as well.
[05:44] <LjL> morphado: nice, where did you get 6.04? :)
[05:44] <Dr_willis> sounds like it may be more of a kernel bug to me.
[05:44] <morphado> what from the net ljl
[05:44] <LjL> !dapper
[05:44] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[05:44] <LjL> there is no 6.04 ;)
[05:45] <stdin> there was 6.06
[05:45] <mitch__> hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?
[05:45] <stdin> because it was late :p
[05:45] <morphado> yes ok call it what u want
[05:45] <LjL> true
[05:45] <Pirate-king> ok....there are a couple things I want skype web cam dvd and cd burning transfer files off a camera and ipod
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> call it what it is.
[05:45] <LjL> i call it what it's called..
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> and how it's named on every site i've seen.
[05:46] <LjL> anyway morphado, sure, if there's nothing that you need from 6.10, there's no reason why you shouldn't stay with 6.06, which has LTS as an advantage
[05:46] <morphado> i want a solution to my problem not trying to prove i am a linux guru
[05:46] <Jucato> Dapper Duck...
[06:00] <evan_> hey guys, new to linux, love kubuntu have a few questions if that's ok
[06:00] <stdin> don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> ask away.
[06:01] <evan_> i'm looking for drivers for my printer: canon pixima ip6210d
[06:01] <evan_> have any ideas where i can find?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> good LUCK.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:01] <evan_> lol
[06:01] <Dr_willis> canon can be very unfriendly towards linux
[06:02] <Dr_willis> check the cups homepage -- www.cups.org perhaps. There may be some  drivers for it.. but dont expect much. I got a Pixima ip1600  that i guess is not supported much if at all at this time.
[06:03] <evan_> i installed turboprint and it worked but it slaps a huge logo on your page
[06:03] <Dr_willis> In the Future - i will NOT be buying any printers from canon.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> evan_,   bummer.. but look at is this way.. the $$ from that i think filters down and pays for all the other drivers getting developed.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> so eventually that driver may be free.
[06:03] <dec_> I hope someone can help, I cannot access the internet although my wireless connection is strong all devices are working but when I use firefox it times out
[06:04] <Dr_willis> dec_,  try pinging the gateway from the terminal?
[06:04] <dec_> where would i find the gateway address
[06:04] <Dr_willis> Its your system. :) mine is the ip of my router.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> or try pinging any other machines on the network.
[06:05] <dec_> I did and it came back 100% loss
[06:05] <Dr_willis> I think thats telling us that the network card/network settings are not correct.
[06:06] <dec_> how can i check the network card/settings
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I dont use wireless any more. i ran wires... wireless is such a disaster under windows and linux.
[06:06] <dec_> my wireless card was working for the last 6 months and then all of a sudden it stopped
[06:06] <Dr_willis> you said earlier that  the connection is strong and all other devices are working... how are you even checking that?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> ahhhhh.. thats interesting.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> it just stopped like yesterday?
[06:07] <dec_> through my wireless assistant
[06:07] <dec_> when it stopped i put the card in a windows machine and it works fine
[06:08] <hyper_ch> !mount
[06:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:08] <hyper_ch> !diskmounter
[06:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:08] <hyper_ch> !fstab
[06:08] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:09] <hyper_ch> !Partitions
[06:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:11] <jerp> I need to load the installation programs I got with my motherboard but of course they are designed for Windows.  Is there a workaround I can do to tweak my memory slots?
[06:11] <evan_> ok then next question why is my internet slower in konquerer in kubuntu than firefox or ie in windows (i haven't tried other browsers in kubuntu)
[06:12] <soulrider> evan_: it porbably isnt
[06:12] <soulrider> just looks like it is
[06:13] <hatta> konqueror is a hog
[06:14] <bowens> As I may not be here when it happens, happy upcoming new year folks!
[06:14] <calvarez> question! after installing the Adobe Flash plugin for firefox, firefox now crashes whenever I go to a flash site (I tried youtube and homestarrunner). Any ideas?
[06:14] <hatta> I use firefox for browsing and krusader for files, never need to touch konqueror
[06:14] <StingRay> Hi can somebody tell my where this line in Kubuntu is: SessionTypes=kde;gnome;default;failsafe;
[06:14] <StingRay> It was supposed to be in kderc
[06:14] <StingRay> but it is not :(
[06:14] <hatta> and if you install a png theme everything will go faster in kde
[06:14] <evan_> the theme is not the problem
[06:15] <evan_> i guess i'll try firefox
[06:15] <rag> hi *, please help me
[06:15] <rag> problem is 'at key' and other keys typical for my keyboard not works
[06:15] <Dr_willis> StingRay,  i thought kdm read the sessions from the various .desktop files  in.. some dir.. heh
[06:15] <rag> xorg not works for me, i have es layout but nothing
[06:16] <rag> i try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <rag> but nothing
[06:16] <StingRay> can you share this little secret please, Dr_willis
[06:16] <Dr_willis> -- my kdm sessions seem to come from -->  /usr/share/xsessions
[06:16] <Dr_willis> its no secret. :)
[06:16] <Dr_willis> gdm reads the same files.
[06:17] <StingRay> there is no such sessiontype var
[06:17] <StingRay> :(
[06:17] <Dr_willis> you sure you are not  looking for kdmrc
[06:17] <StingRay> I checked them already
[06:17] <StingRay> i doublechecked it
[06:17] <Dr_willis> i cant recall ever using a seeiontype var. Ive just altered the files in that dir
[06:17] <osoh> hi all
[06:18] <rag> my settings layout=es and pc105
[06:18] <StingRay> checked them with grep -iH session *
[06:18] <StingRay> nothing there
[06:18] <StingRay> lost almost the whole day :(
[06:18] <Pirate-king> why does my firefox crash on some sites?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> flash issues most likely
[06:19] <Dr_willis> StingRay,  its possible you are going about your problem from the wrong direction.
[06:19] <Pirate-king> ook
[06:19] <StingRay> I know what I want, but don;t know where to search for it
[06:19] <Dr_willis> we dont know what you want.. :)
[06:20] <StingRay> I want to find where my login options are
[06:20] <StingRay> like SessionTypes=kde;gnome;windowmaker;blackbox;anotherlevel;default;failsafe;
[06:20] <StingRay> according to KDE they should be in kdmrc
[06:21] <Dr_willis> if its not shown in the kdmrc file - then it uses the system wide defaults.. which i guess would be to use that sessions dir
[06:21] <Dr_willis> add the line under the   [General]  settings in kdmrc perhaps
[06:21] <Dr_willis> or under the [Xdmcp]  settings
[06:22] <StingRay> I searched the whole kdmrc and  /usr/share/xsessions/*
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Theres also a kdm manager program tahts not included by default I think
[06:22] <StingRay> I am all ears :)
[06:22] <Dr_willis> ---> add <--- add the line under the   [General]  settings in kdmrc perhaps
[06:22] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[06:22] <ubotu> Found: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm
[06:22] <Dr_willis> !info kdmtheme
[06:22] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[06:22] <StingRay> I will check if it will override the other one
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. that may be it.. it does more then themes
[06:23] <StingRay> thank you, doctor ;)
[06:25] <evan_> can i get kubuntu to read my ntfs drive?
[06:27] <fdoving> !ntfs | evan_
[06:27] <ubotu> evan_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:29] <ScarFreewill> !feisty
[06:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:32] <ciemme> ciao a tutti
[06:33] <wilman> I have installed edgy but not everything is working yet
[06:33] <wilman> what are the main packages for sound functions
[06:35] <evan_> last question... i want to start programming for linux... what's the best language to learn
[06:37] <Bubba_Gump> brother evan_ , perl
[06:37] <oht> hello brethren :)
[06:37] <Bubba_Gump> hello :)
[06:39] <Bubba_Gump> how graceful my desktop looks, brother
[06:39] <oht> mine is currently the windows affliction, brother :(
[06:39] <Bubba_Gump> your heathen ways disappoint me, brother
[06:40] <oht> ;)
[06:40] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[06:45] <wilman> install beryl and you will be satisfied
[06:46] <wilman> The source seems encrypted, and can't be read.
[06:46] <wilman> Your DVD is probably crypted. According to your country laws, you can or can't use libdvdcss to be able to read this disc. (Media stream scrambled/encrypted)
[06:46] <wilman> what to do about this?
[06:51] <oht> brother wilman: install libdvdcss
[06:55] <tony_> using libdvdcss.. can k3b copy protected movies to HD ?
[06:56] <wilman> hmmm
[06:56] <wilman> iam finding a repository
[06:57] <tony_> Has anyone installed cinelerra ???
[07:08] <JOSF> Hi! While trying to install Kivio something happened to my apt-database. adept_manager does not start anymore, adept_updater tells me there are no packages upgradable (should be 72) and the Adept program from the start-menu shows only uninstalled programs.
[07:09] <JOSF> How can I recreate the database of installed packages ?
[07:13] <JOSF> Does this mean I need to recreate the apt-cache ?
[07:13] <JOSF> How do I do this ? I am new to apt
[07:16] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:16] <ryanakca> how do I re-enable the OSD for putting the volume up or down with my keyboard's multimedia keys?
[07:16] <ryanakca> hey slow-motion
[07:16] <slow-motion> hi ryanakca
[07:17] <kraut> is there any ipv6 mirror?
[07:18] <ryanakca> JOSF: try running the command:               sudo apt-get update
[07:18] <ryanakca> kraut: for... the repos?
[07:18] <kraut> ryanakca: yes
[07:18] <mado> hallo ihr da
[07:18] <ryanakca> dunno... *checks*
[07:18] <JOSF> ryanakca: that updates the list of remote packages from the repositories, no ? I am need a list of my locally installed packages.
[07:19] <ryanakca> JOSF: hmm... pastebin the output of "dpkg -l"
[07:19] <JOSF> ok, hold on
[07:20] <Engdoug_> dae
[07:21] <JOSF> ryanakca: dpkg: command not found
[07:21] <JOSF> (I had it....)
[07:21] <Engdoug_> haha
[07:21] <Engdoug_> #linux
[07:21] <sa6oook> i need global help
[07:22] <sa6oook> about my Nvidia drivers
[07:22] <sa6oook> can somebody help?
[07:22] <JOSF> what is *global* help ? ;-)
[07:22] <Lynoure> sa6oook: global?
[07:22] <sa6oook> Big
[07:22] <sa6oook> not global
[07:22] <sa6oook> :)
[07:22] <JOSF> can't help with nvidia
[07:22] <JOSF> does not work for me either
[07:23] <ryanakca> JOSF: you don't have dpkg installed?
[07:23] <ryanakca> erm... *scratches his head*
[07:23] <Engdoug_> i used to have an GF II
[07:23] <JOSF> ryanakca: Well, I used it two days before.  Or did it set up the actual kernel for you?
[07:27] <Engdoug_> its a litle strange,..
[07:27] <JOSF> ryanakca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39353/
[07:29] <ryanakca> JOSF: ok, so your database is still there, it's probably just because dpkg wasn't executable
[07:29] <ryanakca> try running adept again
[07:29] <JOSF> I did not change anything to dpkg. It is listed as executable on on the second run it was there. Okay, I will try.
[07:30] <ryanakca> chmod 755    made it executable
[07:30] <JOSF> ryanakca: I did not chmod 755, since there was no need to do so ;-)
[07:31] <ryanakca> eh hunh
[07:31] <JOSF> It was not in my path at first try, it is not even in my slocate db anymore
[07:31] <JOSF> But on second try it was there.
[07:31] <JOSF> Very strange
[07:31] <JOSF> adept does not start
[07:32] <JOSF> it takes the console and nothin happens. I need to ctrl_c to get out of it
[07:34] <wilman> what is a good program to watch dvd?
[07:34] <Ace2016> wilman: kplayer :)
[07:34] <wilman> ok ;)
[07:34] <wilman> thx
[07:35] <ryanakca> JOSF: hmm...
[07:35] <wilman> is it really good?
[07:35] <Ace2016> front end to mplayer so it plays everything, written in qt so it fits in well with your qt theme, you need the w32 codecs and dvdcss stuff installed
[07:36] <wilman> ok
[07:40] <Ace2016> wilman: make sure to get it from cvs from sourceforge because the version on their website is only 0.5.3, the cvs version is 0.5.9, they said they're going to release at 0.6
[07:41] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[07:41] <DarkWizzard> when I put in a cd
[07:42] <DarkWizzard> it tryes to mount it
[07:42] <DarkWizzard> but it gives me an error
[07:42] <DarkWizzard> "Malformed url"
[07:42] <DarkWizzard> same thing with my mp3 player
[07:42] <DarkWizzard> what is causing this ?
[07:43] <MrBallZ> question,  How good is the Intel GMZ 950 graphics chipset ... compared to Nvidia - ATI , under linux .... without going to the propietary driver thing ...
[07:44] <mitch__> Can anyone help me figure out why my WPA wireless won;t work anymore after installing KDE?
[07:44] <morphado> has anyone a solution to the problem of kubuntu 6.10 shutdown
[07:44] <wilman> ok
[07:45] <jn> hello
[07:45] <jn> hello again - I've just joined soemething but I don't yet koinw what it is
[07:46] <Ace2016> jn: what do you mean joined?
[07:47] <DarkWizzard> can anyone help me
[07:47] <DarkWizzard> ?
[07:47] <wilman> http://websvn.kde.org/ ?
[07:48] <Plaguez> Lol.
[07:48] <Plaguez> When netbeans runs on my ubunto machine, it results in a denial of service. Lol.
[07:48] <Plaguez> Guess 256mb ram, cant handle it. Lol.
[07:49] <morphado> but i am the only one
[07:49] <DarkWizzard> is there any chance I can make my mp3 player writable by my user
[07:49] <DarkWizzard> not only by root ?
[07:49] <oht> there is a chance!
[07:49] <oht> ;)
[07:50] <DarkWizzard> how ?
[07:50] <jn> I have recently installed Kubuntu linux and am learning how to use it
[07:50] <DarkWizzard> oht: can you please tell me ?
[07:50] <jn> This is the first time I have tried to use the Konversation software
[07:50] <oht> well i'm not exactly sure
[07:50] <jn> I assume everyone here is using Kubuntu?
[07:51] <oht> DarkWizzard: does it mount automatically or do you mount it?
[07:51] <oht> (with the mount command
[07:51] <DarkWizzard> i mount it
[07:51] <DarkWizzard> with mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/sda
[07:51] <oht> cool
[07:51] <oht> type 'man mount'
[07:51] <oht> and it should say in there how to assign diff permissions for diff users
[07:52] <jn> Is there anyone here from the UK?
[07:53] <Ace2016> jn: does it matter?
[07:54] <jn> Does it matter - only that it would be very helpful for me to know if there are any people who can help with technical problems
[07:54] <jn> ... as I have not used this sort of system before
[07:54] <DarkWizzard> just ask the question
[07:54] <DarkWizzard> and we wil help
[07:55] <DarkWizzard> if we can of course
[07:55] <jn> OK thanks!
[07:55] <jn> I have installed linux becasue I have had such a lot of problems with windows and viruses etc.  At least it seems to cure that difficulty, but....
[07:56] <jn> for now I can only get a 640 by 480 screen resolution, and....#
[07:56] <DarkWizzard> oh
[07:56] <archangel_> how do I get my multi card reader working using dapper?
[07:56] <jn> I can't get the machine to s'see' any other external IDE drives.
[07:56] <DarkWizzard> jn: if you type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:56] <DarkWizzard> into terminal
[07:56] <DarkWizzard> you can configure your display
[07:57] <jn> But I have managed to use the Open Office and the Konqueror OK
[07:57] <DarkWizzard> external as USB connected ?
[07:57] <DarkWizzard> you need to mount them
[07:57] <wilman> arr i deleted a media program but now i can't watch dvd's anymore with kaffeine
[07:57] <archangel_> yes
[07:57] <wilman> stupid linux dependencies
[07:57] <archangel_> DarkWizzard: I guess you were talking to me
[07:57] <Ace2016> wilman: what media app? xine? thats kaffeine's backend
[07:58] <DarkWizzard> archangel_: I have no ideea I was talking to jn :)
[07:58] <wilman> yea i think thats the one
[07:58] <morphado> has anyone a solution to the problem of kubuntu 6.10 shutdown
[07:58] <archangel_> DarkWizzard:  lol sorry
[07:58] <DarkWizzard> morphado: I think I saw it on ubuntuforums.com
[07:58] <Ace2016> wilman: well reinstall xine, or install mplayer and watch it in that
[07:58] <morphado> i even tried the acpi=force but it does not work
[07:58] <DarkWizzard> search for edgy shutdown
[07:58] <jn> Hello Dark Wizzard...  Thakns for your help, I don't understand how to 'mount' other IDE drives
[07:59] <wilman> ok
[07:59] <DarkWizzard> well I
[07:59] <DarkWizzard> I'm trying to figure it out myself
[07:59] <DarkWizzard> :)
[07:59] <DarkWizzard> man mount is helpfull
[07:59] <oht> DarkWizzard: yeah, nearly all commands have 'man' pages, which are just big long mouthful documents of every option and stuff
[08:00] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[08:00] <DarkWizzard> thats why they are helpfull
[08:00] <archangel_> can anyone help me access my SD card?
[08:00] <morphado> dark it tried without help
[08:00] <oht> brother archangel: is it being read through a USB interface?
[08:01] <wilman> i wish these dependencies where better orderd
[08:01] <archangel_> yes,
[08:01] <oht> archangel: does it usually show up in windows as a removable drive?
[08:01] <oht> (or have you ever used it in windows)
[08:01] <archangel_> it tells me      "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[08:02] <oht> are you root?
[08:02] <stdin> !pmount
[08:02] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[08:02] <archangel_> yes
[08:02] <oht> stdin seems to have an excellent solution ;)
[08:02] <oht> try using sdb, or sdb1
[08:02] <oht> etc...
[08:02] <stdin> I always do :P
[08:02] <wilman> arr it still does'nt work
[08:03] <archangel_> sdb?
[08:03] <DarkWizzard> stdin: your my man :)
[08:03] <DarkWizzard> thanks bro
[08:04] <stdin> np DarkWizzard :)
[08:04] <wilman> in kaffeine it says this
[08:04] <wilman> The source can't be read.
[08:04] <wilman> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (/dev/dvd)
[08:05] <archangel_> oht: what is sdb?
[08:07] <oht> archangel: just another disk device
[08:07] <oht> my removable drives mount as sdb
[08:07] <archangel_> how do I do that?
[08:08] <oht> archangel: go to root, and type 'lsusb'
[08:08] <jlowell> has anyone gotten good 3d games that have native linux versions to play on ubuntu?
[08:08] <archangel_> ok
[08:08] <oht> and see if there is an entry for the card reader
[08:08] <oht> jlowell: ut2004! :D
[08:08] <jlowell> I cant get enemy territory, enemylines, googleearth to run at all
[08:08] <oht> neverwinter nights too
[08:08] <oht> jlowell: are your graphics drivers installed?
[08:08] <oht> (ati or nvidia drivers)
[08:09] <jlowell> oht yes, nvidia, allways get seg faults or
[08:09] <jlowell> um something ll
[08:09] <jlowell> 11
[08:09] <archangel_> what next
[08:10] <oht> weird
[08:10] <oht> i know they released a new driver recently
[08:11] <hume> is there a way to have knetworkmanager connect to a WEP encrypted WLAN without having to type in wallet password each time?
[08:13] <Bubba_Gump> brother oht
[08:15] <oht> Brother bubba
[08:15] <Captain_Haddock> !dhcp
[08:15] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[08:15] <archangel_> anyone know how to access media card readers?
[08:15] <Captain_Haddock> !dhcpd
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <archangel_> I cant mount my card for some reason
[08:16] <tony_> how do you install rpm's on kubuntu ?
[08:16] <Captain_Haddock> !adept
[08:16] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[08:16] <Captain_Haddock> tony_ ^
[08:16] <tony_> so adapt can install rpm's ?
[08:17] <stdin> tony_: no, adept can't
[08:17] <stdin> tony_: use alien to convert them
[08:17] <stdin> !alien
[08:17] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:17] <tony_> i downed programs called lightscribe .. it should integrate into K3B to burn lables directly from your cd /dvd onto your disk but is in RPM
[08:18] <Captain_Haddock> oh
[08:18] <Captain_Haddock> sorry
[08:18] <jlowell> oht: how do I check what version of nvidia im using?
[08:19] <rEvolution27> i know this is a stupid question but how do you instal firefox?
[08:19] <tony_> alien seems to be cool program to package for kubuntu :)
[08:19] <Captain_Haddock> !firefox
[08:19] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:19] <rEvolution27> tnx
[08:20] <mm112> hey, does anyone have a link where i can look up stuff about local security...someone had the bright idea that we should use ubuntu where i work...its a school
[08:20] <tony_> using linux is always a bright idea :)
[08:21] <mm112> normally i would agree, but i have no idea how to do local security :-/
[08:21] <VR_> does the alternative cd have the gnome/kde desktop or do you have to apt-get it
[08:21] <jlowell> anyone tell me how to find out what version of nvidia I'm running currently?
[08:22] <oht> jlowell: is there an entry in the menu for 'NVidia X Server Settings'
[08:22] <archangel_> hmmm, according to the forums I have checked out, Ubuntu has not been very compatible to card readers
[08:22] <tony_> i leave that to gurus in this chat :) .. my security ain that good ..
[08:22] <oht> should have a green nv icon
[08:22] <stdin> VR_: alternate CD is the same as the desktop one, except it's a text installer, it's not the server CD, it installes either Gnome KDE or XFCE, depending on the CD
[08:22] <jlowell> oht the kmenu?
[08:23] <VR_> stdin: so, it doesn't have a live cd session, correct?
[08:23] <stdin> VR_: correct, if you've installed debian before, it's the same
[08:23] <VR_> stdin: Awesome. thanks
[08:23] <stdin> np
[08:24] <VR_> it's the old way of installing ubuntu, kind of
[08:24] <jlowell> oht no there isnt
[08:24] <stdin> yeah, before the liveCD was also the install cd
[08:24] <oht> try typing nv into a console and then tab to autocomplete
[08:24] <oht> see if there's anything that comes up for nvidia
[08:25] <jlowell> nvidia-bug-report.sh  nvidia-settings
[08:25] <jlowell> nvidia-glx-config     nvidia-xconfig
[08:26] <hume> anyone got advice on how to avoid having to type in wallet password on every boot on an encrypted wlan, with knetworkmanager?
[08:26] <nixternal> hume: nope, i have to do it as well :)
[08:26] <oht> nvidia-settings
[08:26] <oht> then
[08:27] <hume> nixternal, there used to be the network-admin, but that seems to be obsolete, right?
[08:27] <nixternal> from what i have seen, yes
[08:27] <nixternal> i have kwallet asking for all kinds of passwords, well one password for quite a few things
[08:27] <hume> nixternal, you know how to set the /network/interfaces manually, then?
[08:27] <nixternal> kontact/kmail, knetman, and something else
[08:27] <bele__> yes, kubuntu dapper runs fine in vmware
[08:27] <nixternal> hume: yes
[08:28] <nixternal> on this lappy though i can't use knetworkmanager, using ndiswrapper :(
[08:28] <hume> nixternal, is there a wiki page or something? it is how to set the encryption password that I am unsure about
[08:28] <Captain_Haddock> I just installed the dhcpd3 packages, but it's not starting up. syslog says:
[08:29] <Captain_Haddock> dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (<IP_ADDRESS>).
[08:29] <Captain_Haddock> Where do I fix this?
[08:29] <nixternal> hume, you can search knetworkmanager either on ubuntuforums.org, kubuntuforums.net or the wikis
[08:29] <nixternal> don't know though off-hand
[08:29] <hume> nixternal, ok, thx...i
[08:29] <hume> i
[08:29] <nixternal> i
[08:29] <hume> i'll give it another try
[08:29] <nixternal> hehe
[08:29] <hume> :)
[08:30] <nixternal> the damn ' is to close to return/enter
[08:30] <hume> the ' is too close to the enter key
[08:30] <nixternal> ;_
[08:30] <nixternal> errr, :)
[08:30] <hume> :)
[08:31] <durontux> hola
[08:37] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: looked at /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf ?
[08:37] <wilman> my 5.1 sound works, but when I set xine to play 5.1 it does'nt work
[08:41] <LBB> Hi all! Simple question: how do i re-enable the master-volume slider (kmix) in the taskbar, next to klipper?
[08:41] <weatherhead> is kmix running?
[08:42] <tony_> OK, i converted RPM to Deb format , and installed the program .. nothing works . lol.
[08:42] <LBB> when i run kmix i get the window, not the aplet
[08:43] <weatherhead> how are you starting kmix?
[08:43] <stdin> LBB: make sure you have the settings right in kmix
[08:43] <HymnToLife> LBB, Settings > Configure KMix > Dock into panel
[08:43] <FlasherMaC> hello
[08:43] <LBB> HymnToLife: found that, but doesn't do anything
[08:43] <weatherhead> you'll also want enable system tray volume control
[08:44] <FlasherMaC> i have installed ubunto but found i like the KDE better
[08:44] <LBB> weatherhead done that aswell, started kmix via konsole
[08:44] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: trying to fix it there thanks. What's the point of gdhcpd then? :P
[08:44] <FlasherMaC> my system seems to hang for a sec every 30 secs or so
[08:44] <Captain_Haddock> !nat
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <Ace2016> FlasherMaC: tried looking at the process table in ksysguard?
[08:45] <FlasherMaC> is there an equivelent to ctl + atl + del so i can see what i have running
[08:45] <LBB> FlasherMaC the audio/movies hang, or does everything hang?
[08:45] <FlasherMaC> as you can see that was my question
[08:45] <FlasherMaC> thankyou
[08:45] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: no clue, been a few months since I set up a dhcp server, that was for a simple network tho, and I just edited the config file by hand
[08:46] <Ace2016> FlasherMaC: Ctrl + Esc, or press Alt+F2 and type ksysguard and press enter to get ksysguard and watch the process table
[08:46] <FlasherMaC> audio and video goes glitchy and mouse freezes
[08:46] <LBB> weatherhead how should i start kmix? is it relevant to the taskbar thing?
[08:47] <weatherhead> no not really
[08:47] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: ah. I used to have a SUSE box previously, and the network setup on it was amazingly simple even for a n00b like me.
[08:47] <weatherhead> that settings thing should work
[08:47] <weatherhead> talking of suse, I am mainly a suse user
 thankyou i'm going to have a look now.
[08:47] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: I'm no guru myself, I just google *everything* :P
[08:47] <weatherhead> just installed 6.10 and see that init no longer works properly
[08:48] <weatherhead> what's the simple way to "init 3" ?
[08:48] <oht> telinit 3
[08:48] <oht> in a console
[08:48] <weatherhead> heh
[08:48] <weatherhead> ta
[08:48] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: :D
[08:49] <weatherhead> doesn't appear to do anything
[08:50] <stdin> weatherhead: used sudo?
[08:50] <Ace2016> if you go into init3 wouldn't that kill konversation? and stop this konversation?
[08:50] <marcelo> kubuntu-es please
[08:50] <weatherhead> uh yes it would
[08:50] <weatherhead> and hence, since it hasn't, I haven't gone into init 3
[08:50] <bones78> Is it easy to upgrade kubuntu to 6.10 from 6.06?
[08:51] <weatherhead> but looking at the services, X only seems to get shut down in init 1
[08:51] <weatherhead> how rare
[08:51] <Ace2016> well then, ctrl + f1, and then login as yourself, then do sudo su, and then type init 3, i guess thats what i'd do
[08:52] <Ace2016> oht: it should be the same in ubuntu and kubuntu? what do you use?
[08:52] <HymnToLife> !edgy | bones78
[08:52] <ubotu> bones78: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[08:52] <HymnToLife> yes, it is easy :)
[08:52] <stdin> depends if you used easyubuntu/automatix :p
[08:53] <HymnToLife> which you shouldn't have in the first place :p
[08:53] <stdin> I never touch it, it's evil :)
[08:54] <bones78> That looks great, I'l give it a shot. Thankyou all
[08:55] <weatherhead> well
[08:55] <weatherhead> it seems a lot of trouble to go to just to install new NVIDIA drivers
[08:56] <stdin> weatherhead: how come you want runlevel 3 ?
[08:56] <HymnToLife> weatherhead, you must be kidding, it's ridiculously easy
[08:56] <weatherhead> I'm just used to other distros that's all
[08:56] <weatherhead> it probably is hilariously easy, but I'm an ubuntu noob
[09:07] <marcelo_> como instalo amule en linux
[09:07] <marcelo_> ?
[09:07] <HymnToLife> !es | marcelo
[09:07] <ubotu> marcelo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:08] <daniel777> marcelo
[09:08] <daniel777> metete a kubuntu-es y te explico
[09:08] <daniel777> !de | marcelo
[09:08] <ubotu> marcelo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:08] <daniel777> !br | marcelo
[09:08] <ubotu> marcelo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:08] <daniel777> hahahah that's fun
[09:09] <daniel777> !pl | marcelo
[09:09] <ubotu> marcelo: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:09] <HymnToLife> !botabuse | daniel777
[09:09] <ubotu> daniel777: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:09] <daniel777> !Bot
[09:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:09] <daniel777> nice
[09:09] <Ace2016> Is there a way to renice all processes run in a particular console? like an export command which means that say when i run make, all the things it launches will have a niceness of 5 instead of 0? but i just want this for a single konsole tab
[09:12] <MrBallZ> i'm using kernel 2.6.15-23-686 , and the one I see i can upgrade to in Adept is to   2.6.17-10-386  ... is it recomended .... is there a 2.6.17-10-686  ???
[09:13] <daniel777> how can i activate utf-8 codification :S
[09:14] <HymnToLife> MrBallZ, You'll need to upgrade to Edgy if you want to upgrade your kernel
[09:14] <HymnToLife> or compile it yourself
[09:14] <HymnToLife> and no, there is no more 686 kernel in Edgy, use the "generic" one
[09:16] <MrBallZ> HymnToLife: i just upgraded to Edgy ... so why no more 686 if I can ask ... and I use generic or 386?
[09:16] <HymnToLife> ask the Ubuntu developpers
[09:16] <HymnToLife> and you should use generic, not 386
[09:17] <MrBallZ> ok
[09:35] <Pirate-king> anybody running a web cam??????????
[09:36] <fdoving> Pirate-king: no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:36] <fdoving> :)
[09:36] <lunchtime> hi, im having some trouble getting my internet to work on Kubuntu any one available to help troubleshoot ?
[09:37] <Captain_Haddock> ach! Configuring the network in kubuntu is teh suck :(
[09:37] <pantheon> anyone knows a graphical program for configuring iptables?
[09:37] <lunchtime> would ubuntu be better ? i have both available
[09:37] <Captain_Haddock> Not to mention the service manager :/
[09:37] <fdoving> pantheon: guarddog (the simple one), fwbuilder (advanced).
[09:37] <Captain_Haddock> pantheon: firestarter perhaps?
[09:38] <Captain_Haddock> lunchtime: No idea if I can help, but you might want to provide more information.
[09:38] <pantheon> fdoving: does that advanced mean complicated?
[09:38] <lunchtime> for some reason it wont detect my on onboard nic or expansion nic
[09:38] <lunchtime> should the internet work on the Live!cd before installing ?
[09:38] <Captain_Haddock> lunchtime: usually it does. What chipset?
[09:38] <lunchtime> abit motherboard
[09:38] <lunchtime> nforce
[09:39] <lunchtime> i can get the model if needed
[09:39] <fdoving> pantheon: complicated is relative, http://www.fwbuilder.org/archives/cat_screenshots.html
[09:39] <Captain_Haddock> pantheon: even though it's not GUI based, I found ipkungfu very simple and straightforward to set up.
[09:40] <pantheon> I'll take a look , thanks
[09:40] <Captain_Haddock> pantheon: firestarter is simple and comes with GUI as well.
[09:41] <fdoving> lunchtime: what kind of connection do you have to the internet? cable, adsl, isdn?
[09:41] <lunchtime> verizon fios
[09:41] <fdoving> lunchtime: what is that?
[09:41] <lunchtime> FIBER
[09:42] <fdoving> ok.
[09:42] <fdoving> sounds cool.
[09:42] <fdoving> lunchtime: then i guess it's regular ethernet connecting the computer?
[09:42] <lunchtime> correct , coming from my router , which dchp normally works on
[09:43] <fdoving> lunchtime: ok. go to KMenu -> System -> KInfoCenter
[09:44] <fdoving> lunchtime: kmenu is the K in the lower left corner.
[09:44] <lunchtime> yes i know
[09:44] <lunchtime> im on the live disk now , is that ok ?
[09:44] <fdoving> that's ok.
[09:45] <fdoving> find 'Network Interfaces' in the list at the left side, in KInfoCenter.
[09:45] <lunchtime> ok im in
[09:45] <lunchtime> k
[09:47] <lunchtime> its only showing " lo "
[09:49] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[09:49] <DaSkreech> sudo depmod -a
[09:50] <lunchtime> daskreech: is that for me to type
[09:50] <DaSkreech> Yes if you'd like
[09:50] <DaSkreech> When My eth cards disappeared that worked
[09:50] <Captain_Haddock> lunchtime: are the cards working fine on your current OS?
[09:51] <lunchtime> yep they both work
[09:51] <lunchtime> im on my laptop right now which is next to the other computer with kubuntu on it
[09:52] <lunchtime> so i can be on here and work on the problem at the same time
[09:52] <HymnToLife> lunchtime, if it's only showing 'lo', I guess you need to install drivers for your NIC(s)
[09:52] <lunchtime> i thought it should have done that durning the install process
[09:53] <DaSkreech> lunchtime: try my way from the command line
[09:53] <lunchtime> i did , it ran the command , and came back to the command line
[09:53] <HymnToLife> lunchtime, does    sudo ifconfig -a       ouput anything else than lo ?
[09:54] <lunchtime> sit0
[09:54] <HymnToLife> you definitely need drivers
[09:54] <HymnToLife> what kind of NIC do you have ?
[09:54] <lunchtime> i have the one which is onboard , and a dlink card
[09:55] <HymnToLife> please pastebin the output of   lspci
[09:55] <fdoving> lunchtime: sorry, had a huge memleak, that needed attention.
[09:56] <fdoving> lunchtime: inside kinfocenter, select 'PCI'
[09:56] <lunchtime> k im there
[09:56] <fdoving> lunchtime: scroll down till you find something named 'Network controller' something.
[09:56] <fdoving> what's it's name and number?
[09:57] <fdoving> HymnToLife: without internet?
[09:57] <HymnToLife> yu don't even have an USB stick ?
[09:58] <lunchtime> i have one
[09:58] <fdoving> lunchtime: can't you find any network controller in that list?
[09:58] <lunchtime> i dont see one
[09:58] <fdoving> lunchtime: what about 'network controller' ?
[09:59] <lunchtime> nope
[09:59] <lunchtime> nothing mentioning network
[09:59] <HymnToLife> "Ethernet controller", rather, methinks
[09:59] <fdoving> correct. that's what i meant to write the second time.
[10:00] <lunchtime> now that i think about it , i might have a spare 3com network card in another machine . would that be more likely to be auto recognized
[10:00] <fdoving> lunchtime: ethernet controller?
[10:00] <HymnToLife> lunchtime, wouldn't hurt to try
[10:00] <fdoving> lunchtime: most 3coms will be autodetected, but anything PCI should appear in that list.
[10:01] <lunchtime> i see my video card , and sound card
[10:01] <HymnToLife> lunchtime, lspci | grep Ethernet
[10:01] <HymnToLife> anything ?
[10:01] <lunchtime> one sec
[10:01] <lunchtime> nothing
[10:01] <HymnToLife> hmm
[10:01] <lunchtime> it just came back to command line
[10:01] <fdoving> weird.
[10:02] <HymnToLife> now THAT's weird
[10:02] <fdoving> go for the 3com.
[10:02] <lunchtime> im gona run down stairs and snag that card from the other machine ! brb 2 minutes
[10:02] <Daisuke_Ido> boy do i feel fortunate...  ralink 2500 :)
[10:02] <HymnToLife> same here, Intel ipw3945 :)
[10:02] <fdoving> bcm43xx here.
[10:03] <fdoving> Captain_Haddock: why?
[10:03] <HymnToLife> SuSE ?  :P
[10:06] <fdoving> Captain_Haddock: have you tried 'guidedog' and 'gdhcpd' ? (those are package names).
[10:06] <fdoving> I need to go watch a tv-show with my gf. bbl.
[10:06] <Captain_Haddock> fdoving: yep.
[10:06] <Captain_Haddock> ok
[10:06] <Captain_Haddock> cheers
[10:07] <fdoving> see you.
[10:07] <Captain_Haddock> adios
[10:08] <DaSkreech> Which show?
[10:09] <notech> HymnToLife: if a linux router and firewall combination are done right, it can be more secure than those bargain routers
[10:11] <lunchtime> ok im back i have 2 cards to choose from , netgear or 3com
[10:11] <eilker> !xen
[10:11] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[10:11] <DaSkreech> 3com :)
[10:11] <DaSkreech> !ps3
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <eilker> is xen similar to vmware ?
[10:12] <DaSkreech> eilker: no It's a hypervisor
[10:12] <lunchtime> ok be just a moment to install it ,
[10:12] <DaSkreech> Though I think the vmware server is a hypervisor as well
[10:12] <eilker> DaSkreech: i have vmware server, sorry but what is hypervisor ?
[10:13] <eilker> let me google :)
[10:13] <DaSkreech> eilker: A Virtual machine runs on top of the operating system a hypervisor runs in between the OS and the metal
[10:13] <DaSkreech> or wiki :)
[10:13] <Ace2016> !wii
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <eilker> i see thank you
[10:15] <DaSkreech> !wee
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <DaSkreech> :-(
[10:19] <n8k99> is someone tryin to connect to a ps3 or a wii?
[10:20] <notech> think they were just playing with the bot
[10:20] <lunchtime> the moment of truth !
[10:21] <berryyyl> is anyone have trouble with kxdocker
[10:21] <berryyyl> when i start it it says composite not working
[10:21] <berryyyl> or something like that
[10:21] <berryyyl> or is there equivalents of kxdocker that i can try? i didn't like kooldock, so it there anything else?
[10:22] <DaSkreech> n8k99: I was trying to install on a PS3
[10:23] <n8k99> oh yeah - is it going good?