[06:01] <cupojava> I am getting an error
[06:01] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: (EE) NVIDIA(0): fail to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[06:01] <greencoo1ie> Dude lol! command line is fun but complicated. I had to tab a thousand times to search google. :)
[06:01] <cupojava> about some file "Packages.gz" not being found
[06:01] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: (EE) NVIDIA(0): ***aborting***
[06:01] <jimmacdonald> ok so I am not the only one have nvidia problems?
[06:01] <nalioth> cupojava: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[06:01] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, does: lsmod | grep nvidia    give you any output, i dont need the output just to know if it shows anything
[06:01] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: (EE) screenfound but not have usable configuration
[06:02] <sapphy76> /nalioth its an webcam driver
[06:02] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, feisty?
[06:02] <greencoo1ie> quit
[06:02] <MasterShrek> jimmacdonald, alot of people are today for some reason
[06:02] <sapphy76> I dont remember theese irc sommands
[06:02] <buzz-cp> jimmacdonald:  Google ENVY / ubuntu     this solved all nvidia driver / max resolution problem
[06:02] <nalioth> sapphy76: have you tried plugging your webcam in and seeing if it works?
[06:02] <MasterShrek> ick no
[06:02] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: lsmod | grep nvidia does not give me any output
[06:02] <MasterShrek> DO NOT INSTALL ENVY
[06:02] <MasterShrek> !envy
[06:02] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:02] <cupojava> I was wondering if anyone else saw that.. or if the ubuntu servers are temporarily down
[06:03] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, are u on feisty or gutsy?
[06:03] <greencookie_> I think ill stick with konversation for now
[06:03] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: Gutsy
[06:03] <sapphy76> well, I have to install the driver manually, but i need root permission in terminal
[06:03] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, what kernel?
[06:03] <MasterShrek> uname -r
[06:03] <greencookie_> Guys why can't I play simple games in ubuntu. They run too slow. Choppy.
[06:03] <buzz-cp> OK let's be dogmatic
[06:03] <MasterShrek> sapphy76, use sudo before you put the command
[06:03] <jimmacdonald> problem is the farthest I can get is to the KDM login... if I attempt to login it kicks me right back to kdm.
[06:03] <sapphy76> k
[06:03] <sapphy76> thanks
[06:04] <MasterShrek> jimmacdonald, have you ever got past that?
[06:04] <Scunizi> jimmacdonald, try #kubuntu
[06:04] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: something start with 2.6 ... end with 14
[06:04] <jimmacdonald> yes before the updates last night.
[06:04] <cupojava> what kind of games are you trying to play greencookie?
[06:04] <buzz-cp> What evidence is there that the script breaks a machine?
[06:04] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, try rebooting and when grub comes up, pick the 3rd option and try again
[06:04] <jimmacdonald> Scunizi... I get the same indications when trying to run gnome
[06:04] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: you meant the Recovery Mode?
[06:05] <greencookie_> Um i had one that had tux skiing down a hill or something..
[06:05] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, no, the second kernel option that is not recovery mode
[06:05] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, there should be one in there if ur using 14
[06:05] <Scunizi> jimmacdonald, get to a terminal wit ctrl+alt+f2, log in and sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  .. that might fix it by catching another update to fix the last one.
[06:05] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: ok, i'll give it a try
[06:05] <drewby> hrrm
[06:05] <ArtVandalae> greencookie_: you don't have the proper drivers installed
[06:05] <MasterShrek> greencookie, games are overrated =P
[06:05] <greencookie_> and how do i kick my evil twin greencookie out so I can be myself?
[06:05] <ArtVandalae> greencookie_: the choppiness in tux racer is because it needs 3d
[06:05] <greencookie_> MasterShrek: WoW player here ;)
[06:05] <MasterShrek> greencookie_, youll just have to wait
[06:06] <greencookie_> aw.
[06:06] <greencookie_> *tries to snipe greencookie
[06:06] <MasterShrek> greencookie_, WoW on wine
[06:06] <MasterShrek> i tried pinging him greencookie_
[06:06] <sapphy76> how do I vlear the terminal screen (like cls in DOS)
[06:06] <buzz-cp> !pastebin
[06:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <Scunizi> clear
[06:06] <MasterShrek> type clear
[06:06] <greencookie_> MasterShrek: before that I guess ill have to figure out how to enable 3d first:)
[06:06] <buzz-cp> !spew
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spew - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <greencookie_> clear
[06:06] <sapphy76> that easy? wow
[06:06] <MasterShrek> greencookie, what kind of gfx card?
[06:06] <cupojava> getting this error: "ailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[06:06] <sapphy76> feelig dumb I am
[06:07] <MasterShrek> cupojava, interesting, did u lose gzip?
[06:07] <greencookie_> I got some kind of ATI card. I dunno which..but I know its ATI shows it on lspci
[06:07] <rouben> cupojava: running out of space by any chance? check with df -h
[06:07] <Scunizi> sapphy76, the light will shine upon you in time!
[06:07] <g0dd3ss> hai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??
[06:07] <sapphy76> thanks
[06:07] <Scunizi> :)
[06:07] <rouben> cupojava: if so, try apt-get clean
[06:08] <MasterShrek> oh yea, i just tried helping you with that greencookie_ lol, youll need to figure out how to install drivers for it, maybe system>administration>restricted drivers
[06:08] <sapphy76> Im a beginner in linux, but have many years experience with dos and windows
[06:08] <sapphy76> I like linux so far
[06:08] <greencookie_> yeah MasterShrek when I enable that, I gotta do the whole dpkg reconfigure thing cuz x hangs up.
[06:08] <MasterShrek> oh yea...
[06:08] <MasterShrek> hmm
[06:08] <Scunizi> sapphy76, I was the same until last year.. now I run win2kpro in a VM just for work stuff that requires IE6
[06:08] <greencookie_> Is there a way I can access this chatroom from firefox?
[06:08] <MasterShrek> sorry greencookie_, i got short term memory loss, probably from green brownies lol
[06:09] <ArtVandalae> greencookie_: with chatzilla
[06:09] <MasterShrek> greencookie_, there is a java freenode client somewhere
[06:09] <cupojava> well.. there is about 900 megs still available.. so it shouldnt be the space problem..
[06:09] <greencookie_> chatzilla! voila!
[06:09] <greencookie_> thanks ArtVandalae.
[06:09] <cupojava> and I can still see gzip
[06:09] <cupojava> in my path
[06:09] <sapphy76> I have a xp partition for some gaming
[06:09] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[06:09] <Neatchee> sapphy76: as someone who came from Windows not 2 years ago, feel free to ask any questions you have.  Everyone here is plenty friendly and willing to help :)
[06:10] <Scunizi> sapphy76, ditto
[06:10] <Cpudan80> I've got a problem with flash in Ubuntu x86_64
[06:10] <sapphy76> all I need is to get my webcam running
[06:10] <ksivaji>  i know user name password of system with ip <IP_ADDRESS> ,still i cant login because telnet and ssh says connection timedout ,but i can ping <IP_ADDRESS> works
[06:10] <greencookie> sapphy76: which webcam?
[06:10] <MasterShrek> !nspluginwrapper | Cpudan80
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <sapphy76> qc pro 5000
[06:10] <MasterShrek> !flash64
[06:10] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:10] <Cpudan80> I followed the directions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[06:10] <Neatchee> sapphy76: Ooo, webcams are a pain :(
[06:10] <Scunizi> sapphy76, I found that mine works when I boot with it plugged in.. different model though.. creative.
[06:10] <sapphy76> I figured that out
[06:11] <nickrud> Scunizi: exactly which one, I'm in the market
[06:11] <sapphy76> the pro 400 cam worked a bit
[06:11] <sapphy76> gave it avay to my mom
[06:11] <Cpudan80> Well at any rate - I followed those steps
[06:11] <sapphy76> dooh
[06:11] <Cpudan80> But every time I restart the browser - I lose flash support
[06:11] <Scunizi> nickrud, Creative live! cam video IM  .. fry's # 5063185 $22.99
[06:12] <cupojava> I am experiencing some lag
[06:12] <greencookie> Yay! chat zilla!
[06:12] <greencookie> But I was hoping it would be integrated inside firefox. this is no different from Konversation:(
[06:12] <greencookie> Hello?!
[06:13] <dylix> what
[06:13] <Scunizi> greencookie, konversation has some nice features that I miss when using xchat..
[06:13] <cupojava> sorry.. the server lagged out.. didnt see any responses after my response
[06:13] <feld> gutsy discussion in here or is there a dedicated channel for that?
[06:13] <greencookie> And it does not highlight a sentence when it has my name on it:( scumbag chatzilla..
[06:13] <Scunizi> feld #ubuntu+1
[06:13] <sapphy76> any norwegians here? (novice users)
[06:13] <cube> #ubuntu+1 for gutsy
[06:13] <homerj_> more of an nvidia question: anyone have a laptop with an nvidia card in it? the slowdown threshold in nvidia-settings is set to 0c
[06:13] <feld> Scunizi: cool
[06:13] <Neatchee> sapphy76: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3743  << Try that for getting your quickcam to work
[06:14] <Neatchee> Please read the whole page first, as it details the whole process, and you may need to adapt some things if it's been updated since
[06:15] <greencookie> Just curious
[06:15] <greencookie> Is everyone using gnome?
[06:15] <g0dd3ss> no
[06:15] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: what are you using?
[06:16] <g0dd3ss> kde today
[06:16] <sapphy76> thanks Neatchee
[06:16] <nickrud> Scunizi: frys it is this weekend, thanks
[06:16] <Scunizi> np
[06:16] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: ok.
[06:16] <greencookie> How bout konversation? everyone use that?
[06:16] <hdevalence> If I wante dto display line 60 of file foobar, what program would I use?
[06:16] <nickrud> even the right price, wow
[06:17] <L0GAN> hello, where can I get blender 2.45 for ubuntu?
[06:17] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, i r using xchat:D
[06:17] <greencookie> !xchat
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <Scunizi> nickrud, I have an old ViCam that became the 3comm camera that is now used by a security company.. Great camera, interchangable lenses (glass) and less than 1 lux.. unfortunatly doesn't work on anything linux.. :(
[06:17] <L0GAN> i downloaded one but it said some dependancy error
[06:17] <hdevalence> greencookie: konversation is nice if you use KDE. otherwise I'd say try xchat
[06:17] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: Ok. Me Chatzilla. :)
[06:17] <Cpudan80> Ok so I followed the directions for flash
[06:17] <Cpudan80> But again, it only works once
[06:17] <Veinor> I have a microsoft wireless notebook optical mouse 3000, and whenever I click on the middle mouse button, it pastes the text from the cilpboard.
[06:17] <Cpudan80> If I close/reopen browser - it stops working
[06:17] <sapphy76> I have another annoying problem, cant get a higher resoulution than 1024x768... using an Geforce fx5600
[06:17] <greencookie> hdevalence: how do i install xchat? sudo apt-get install xchat?
[06:18] <SeveredCross> Veinor: That's how Linux works. ;)
[06:18] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, ooo ook, never used that, is it good
[06:18] <samma> hello, If I'm moving all of my music I bought on iTunes over to ubuntu, do I have to burn all of the songs to a CD to remove the DRM?
[06:18] <nickrud> Scunizi: I've avoided webcams for that very reason, I'm glad I peeked in just now
[06:18] <Scunizi> yep
[06:18] <hdevalence> greencookie: yeah
[06:18] <Veinor> SeveredCross: is there any way to change it so that when I do it in, say, firefox, I can move the mouse to scroll?
[06:18] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: try it. its nice. I like the dark color schemes. after all its all about personalization ;)
[06:18] <Scunizi> samma, that might work
[06:18] <SeveredCross> Veinor: You can still move the mouse to scroll...Just don't push the button down.
[06:18] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, lol i have to make everything purple :X
[06:18] <SeveredCross> samma: Probably not, look up FairUseQT or something like it, there's a Java app that will decrypt your songs.
[06:19] <sapphy76> I just used an NTFS config tool, I didnt have to move the music from anywhere
[06:19] <Veinor> SeveredCross: I know my old mouse actually registered the middle button as a third button, not as paste.
[06:19] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: Purple? lol. Better than pink;)
[06:19] <Veinor> samma: he means qtfairuse
[06:19] <samma> Mkay, thanks, you all.
[06:19] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, lol for sure 8-]
[06:19] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: you can make it purple in chatzill too i guess:)
[06:19] <Scunizi> nickrud, the creative is ok.. color is passable but not great, clarity.. well .. it's sorta what I ecpected after the Vicam which was tack sharp.
[06:19] <fryguy> I'm having some problems with torrent download speeds (not upload) in utorrent, using various clients.  I've compared the results in reasonable way (private trackers, downloading same torrent on different clients), and I can't get the download speed anywhere close to utorrent on windows (utorrent on windows maxes out my connection, 750+ kb/s, while ubuntu is doing 50kb/s).  Is there some sort of network tuning I need to know about?  I'm using the same port n
[06:19] <L0GAN> i get error: dependency is not satisfiable: lib52-0.7.4
[06:19] <greencookie> but just havent tried it yet.
[06:20] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: how long have you been using ubuntu?
[06:20] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, a couple of years, in between windows, but still a noob
[06:20] <zaatar_> !svn
[06:20] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[06:20] <zaatar_> you guys know of a "good" walkthrough of setting up svn the right way?
[06:20] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, but I'm ready to get rid of windoze now :D what bout u?
[06:20] <zaatar_> i don't wanna f around this time...
[06:20] <Veinor> SeveredCross: so is there any way to change linux to interpret the middle button as an actual button?
[06:21] <SeveredCross> It does?
[06:21] <nickrud> Scunizi: one that works is enough for now, especially at the price. I can use it in baseball later without any tears :)
[06:21] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: I installed ubuntu a couple of days ago. First timer in linux so pretty new.
[06:21] <SeveredCross> Scroll up and down are also separate buttons.
[06:21] <SeveredCross> Not really sure what exactly your problem is...
[06:21] <Cpudan80> Anyone have any ideas?
[06:21] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: I'd love to get rid of windoze but I got my game there:( WoW:)
[06:21] <Cpudan80> Flash works for one go - but not for multiple ones?
[06:21] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: I'm loving the whole linux experience.
[06:21] <Veinor> SeveredCross: With my old mouse, I could press in with the middle button once and then just move the physical mouse around without using the middle button at all.
[06:21] <SeveredCross> Scrolling the wheel up registers a button action, clicking it down registers a different button action, and scrolling the wheel down registers a third action.
[06:21] <SeveredCross> Oh. Don't know that there's a way to do that.
[06:21] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, lol 8-} kool. wont it run in wine or sdomethin
[06:21] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: what music player do u use?:)
[06:22] <MasterShrek> Cpudan80, 64 bit?
[06:22] <L0GAN> why is blender not available in add/remove?
[06:22] <SeveredCross> What's the problem with just scrolling the wheel down?
[06:22] <Veinor> It's slow.
[06:22] <Cpudan80> MasterShrek: Yeah -- I followed those steps you sent me before
[06:22] <MasterShrek> L0GAN, sudo apt-get install blender ?
[06:22] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: well for that I have to enable 3d acceleration and frankly speaking I dont like terminals right now:0
[06:22] <astro76> Veinor, it was on Linux you could do that?
[06:22] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, xmms or amarok, quod libet
[06:22] <Veinor> astro76: yeah.
[06:22] <Cpudan80> MasterShrek: If I run the npwrapper -i thing before every startup it would work
[06:22] <MasterShrek> Cpudan80, i dont know, it used to do that for me before too, but ever since i upgraded to gutsy it doesnt anymore
[06:22] <Veinor> if I could change the amount each click of the wheel scrolls, I'd be happy.
[06:22] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: so i'm procrastinating installing the video driver for now.
[06:23] <astro76> Veinor, you can, install imwheel and adjust it's config
[06:23] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: Amarok! to be frank this is one of the features that made me wanna bury windoze.
[06:23] <MasterShrek> Cpudan80, i jsut made a bash script and put it in /usr/bin called flash-plug or something so i could load it right away if i needed flash
[06:23] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: I'm in love with Amarok:)
[06:23] <cube> there is an offtopic chat
[06:23] <Cpudan80> MasterShrek: Yeah - I guess I could just bump up to the next version....
[06:23] <L0GAN> MasterShrek: ill try that but will it get the latest version available?
[06:23] <jimmacdonald> alright I am screwed... I cannot get this working after an update.
[06:23] <Cpudan80> How do you upgrade btw?
[06:23] <Cpudan80> I'm new to Ubuntu
[06:24] <g0dd3ss> o.O orly
[06:24] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: xmms doesn't quite cut it for me:)
[06:24] <Cpudan80> !upgrade | Cpudan80
[06:24] <MasterShrek> Cpudan80, u might as well wait until thursday when gutsy is officially released
[06:24] <sn4keeyez> can i get help for xubuntu in this room?
[06:24] <SeveredCross> Veinor: You can change that I believe.
[06:24] <SeveredCross> Mouse properties can change that.
[06:24] <CITguy> /exti
[06:24] <cube> system-admin-update manager
[06:24] <CITguy> /exit
[06:24] <greencookie> sn4keeyez: #xubuntu
[06:24] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, what do u need help with?
[06:24] <friedtofu> hm. gutsy is officially released on thursday? the final version?
[06:24] <mnml> hi, i want to make ubuntu sign on to a remote ssh server everytime i start up the machine.Anyone know if I can do this?
[06:24] <L0GAN> cand find package blender it says
[06:24] <visof_> how can i add repositories for synaptic?
[06:24] <Veinor> friedtofu: yes.
[06:24] <MasterShrek> yes friedtofu
[06:24] <g0dd3ss> greencookie, yeah, but i kinda miss winamp, which is why i use xmms sometimes, but no media library, taht sucks, which is why i use amarok
[06:24] <Kudak> guys, what email server hotmail is using ?? pop or imap ???
[06:24] <sn4keeyez> i need help with connecting to my wireless router.
[06:24] <MasterShrek> visof_, system>administration>software sources
[06:24] <SeveredCross> Hum, maybe you can't, I thought you could.
[06:24] <friedtofu> Veinor MasterShrek : thanks, making sure after reading off distrowatch
[06:24] <greencookie> I was in #kubuntu for the past couple of days until someone pointed out that there did in fact exist a separate room for ubuntu:) yay!
[06:24] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, what kind of wireless card do you have?
[06:25] <SeveredCross> Kudak: Hotmail is IMAP I would think, but they may be using their own protocol.
[06:25] <L0GAN> blender is one of the biggest open source apps :)
[06:25] <mikubuntu> any idea what might have caused an old dell laptop with xubuntu on it to crash, after it was operating properly, and then fails to take a reinstall, among other things giving a grub 18 error?
[06:25] <sn4keeyez> it's a smc
[06:25] <sn4keeyez> my card sees my router but won't connect to it.
[06:25] <Kudak> SeveredCross: im configuring Evolution and i need to know what server type to choose from
[06:25] <Kudak> SeveredCross: how can i find out what server they use ?
[06:25] <SeveredCross> Probably IMAP.
[06:25] <astro76> Kudak, hotmail does not support either
[06:25] <sn4keeyez> I changed the channel on my card to the channel of my router.
[06:25] <cube> sn4ke have you had another device hooked up to your router before
[06:25] <sn4keeyez> but still no dice.
[06:25] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, interesting, using network manager? (i hate network manager, straight command line is better lol)
[06:25] <SeveredCross> You'll have to look it up on Hotmail pages.
[06:25] <Kudak> astro76: what should i choose then ?
[06:25] <greencookie> g0dd3ss: yeah no library.  Is the name of the default sound device in Ubuntu /dev/dsp?
[06:26] <Kudak> astro76: alright thx
[06:26] <sn4keeyez> but i'm a total noob to linux...so i think it is something minor
[06:26] <sn4keeyez> i opened up my router
[06:26] <greencookie> intarwebz:  you can install kde later on.
[06:26] <Pumpitup> intarwebz> kubuntu
[06:26] <sn4keeyez> no wep or wap
[06:26] <greencookie> sn4keeyez: join the group:)
[06:26] <cube> so you activated wifi on your internet connection
[06:26] <nickrud> the lastest incarnation of networkmanager, anyway. I have a static definition in interfaces, and it uses it if I'm plugged in at work. Wireless automatically at home
[06:26] <friedtofu> question: is there any way to change that keyring thing? so i dont have to manually enter the password everytime i log into Ubuntu to go online via USB wifi adapter?
[06:26] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, i always do this: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <essid>    then sudo dhclient3 eth1
[06:26] <intarwebz> right i know you *can* install kde later or kubuntu but is it an option in an ordinary ubuntu install?
[06:26] <sn4keeyez> yeah i am surfing on a windows computer right now with it...
[06:26] <riotkittie> its easy to hate nework manager if you have a chipset it does not play nice with. or if you have witnessed it's wonkiness in gutsy tribes first hand :P
[06:26] <cube> did it have a wap key?
[06:27] <greencookie> MasterShrek: what does that do?
[06:27] <Veinor> so how do I use imwheel?
[06:27] <astro76> intarwebz, there is a kubuntu install cd
[06:27] <fryguy> intarwebz: ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde
[06:27] <MasterShrek> greencookie, its for wifi
[06:27] <L0GAN> hmm blender available only in the "Software restricted by copyright or legal issues". thats weird for a GNU app
[06:27] <greencookie> intarwebz: not sure about that buddy
[06:27] <visof_> what is the meaning od APT line?
[06:27] <Kudak> astro76: i goggled it and a few POP3 findings showed up, is it possible they use POP3 ?
[06:27] <sn4keeyez> let me try that master
[06:27] <intarwebz> sn4keeyez:  you just installed, were you offered kde?
[06:27] <visof_> i couldn t add any repositories
[06:27] <sn4keeyez> ummm
[06:27] <MasterShrek> intarwebz, no, u just have to install kubuntu-desktop afterwards
[06:27] <greencookie> MasterShrek: Do you know how to fix my wifi prob?:) i cant use WPA on my wireless
[06:27] <intarwebz> or just GNOME
[06:27] <astro76> Kudak, I think people have written software to interface with the website and fake a pop3 server, is that what you've found?
[06:28] <MasterShrek> !wpa
[06:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:28] <sn4keeyez> i think xubuntu uses xfce
[06:28] <intarwebz> ok thx ppls
[06:28] <MasterShrek> yes sn4keeyez it does
[06:28] <intarwebz> xubuntu is da bomb
[06:28] <Kudak> astro76: no, i found a guide on how to configure outlook, and i guessed it didnt matter what kind of clients i use
[06:28] <greencookie> Havent tried xubuntu intarwebz .
[06:28] <MasterShrek> kubuntu is better :) kde apps are unmatchable
[06:28] <Kudak> astro76: on the outlook guide it says to choose pop3 for hotmail, so i guess same for evolution, ami right ?
[06:28] <greencookie> I love Gnome!
[06:28] <greencookie> :)
[06:28] <kris> Hi. Is the name of the default sound device in Ubuntu /dev/dsp?
[06:28] <MasterShrek> Kudak, yes
[06:28] <MasterShrek> i think so kris
[06:29] <Kudak> MasterShrek: alright thx. :P
[06:29] <L0GAN> hmm maybe I ask a linux user to do the export for me
[06:29] <sn4keeyez> i wanted to try out linux so i researched distro for an old pentium 2 thinkpad that i had laying around
[06:29] <greencookie> Plus it doesnt matter does it cuz all apps run on all different window managers if i'm not mistaken.
[06:29] <Pumpitup> having both desktop installed gnome and kde wont slow anything now would it
[06:29] <gcarrillo> hey all has anybody found the automounter to be unstable??
[06:29] <sn4keeyez> i found xubuntu and installed it...
[06:29] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, did u try that?
[06:29] <astro76> Kudak, with hotmail and yahoo you only get pop3 with paid account, gmail you get it for free :D
[06:29] <intarwebz> haha what a buzzkill when someone blurts out "i love gnome"
[06:29] <astro76> Kudak, and yeah that was an Outlook only thing
[06:29] <MasterShrek> intarwebz, tru.dat
[06:29] <intarwebz> ;) j/k i love bash so who am i
[06:30] <sn4keeyez> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid get off my network
[06:30] <MasterShrek> tru.dat.2
[06:30] <MasterShrek> =P
[06:30] <greencookie> whats wrong with gnome:)?
[06:30] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, you need to put quotes around the essid
[06:30] <greencookie> its simple :)
[06:30] <intarwebz> greencookie: its reputation
[06:30] <PurpZeY> Hey all, I am looking to set a global keyboard short-cut and the guide I read suggested that I use gconf under metacity options...But I am running compiz-fusion, which is technically my windows manager, am I still using the metacity area of gconf for this?
[06:30] <sn4keeyez> oops, typed on the wrong computer.
[06:30] <cube> green have you heard of offtopic
[06:30] <greencookie> eh.. intarwebz why would that be? is gnome for beginners?
[06:30] <kris> I am trying to get gtk-recordMyDesktop to capture sound, but to no avail. Similar problems with xvidcap, too. Anyone able to offer any help?
[06:30] <greencookie> !offtopic |cube
[06:30] <ubotu> cube: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:30] <greencookie> lol
[06:30] <intarwebz> greencookie: ya
[06:31] <intarwebz> ubotu - that's cute
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about that's cute - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <greencookie> ah.. suitable for me. I just installed linux a week ago:)
[06:31] <MasterShrek> gnome is for nazis ---Linus
[06:31] <intarwebz> stfu
[06:31] <cube> i like gnome
[06:31] <intarwebz> greencookie: gotcha
[06:31] <intarwebz> yeah, linus disrespects gnome openly
[06:31] <astro76> !stfu | intarwebz
[06:31] <ubotu> intarwebz: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:31] <greencookie> lol@Mastershrek is that true?
[06:31] <intarwebz> oh my bad
[06:31] <riotkittie> desktop environment wars are for dummies --me
[06:31] <MasterShrek> my prof told me that
[06:32] <intarwebz> you can't even say rt*m?  how will our childrens learn?
[06:32] <cube> whats wrong with gnome?
[06:32] <jdong> greencookie: it's slgihtly paraphrased
[06:32] <greencookie> wts rt*fm?
[06:32] <EruditeHermit> hey, can anyone help me with renaming my ipod?
[06:32] <jdong> greencookie: but mostly true
[06:32] <sn4keeyez> ok thanks master
[06:32] <cupojava> Does anyone know if the D-Link USB wireless adapter works with Gutsy?
[06:32] <intarwebz> haha i'm in like bizarro irc world
[06:32] <kris> Hmm. Never heard the acronym jfgi before. Pardon my asking, but what's it mean?
[06:32] <greencookie> Now I feel bad for using Gnome:)
[06:32] <astro76> greencookie, read the fine manual ;)
[06:32] <jdong> kris: Just <explicative> Google It
[06:32] <cube> erudite does it not authenticate it when u try?
[06:32] <riotkittie> cupojava: there are a number of d-link usb wireless adapters, with a variety of details. give a girl some details.
[06:32] <kris> jdong: Thanks. :-)
[06:32] <greencookie> rofl astro76 neveer knew that one! lol.. thnx
[06:32] <riotkittie> errr with  a variety of chipsets
[06:32] <intarwebz> oh i thoguht it was just ForGet it
[06:32] <intarwebz> heh
[06:33] <riotkittie> cupojava: which model? which revision?
[06:33] <EruditeHermit> cube: I gave it to a friend and it got his name on it and I want it back to just ipod
[06:33] <greencookie> j*gi Lol.
[06:33] <cube> what happens when u try
[06:33] <sn4keeyez> hey master do i put " " around it or <>?
[06:33] <sn4keeyez> sorry i'm a total noob
[06:33] <greencookie> im on my way to earning a doctrate in internet slangs
[06:33] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, use 'get off my network'
[06:34] <MasterShrek> or whatever it was
[06:34] <bwidja28> help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:34] <astro76> sn4keeyez, <> pretty much always means substitute something for it without the <>
[06:34] <cube> if all else fails go into recovery mode and use vm to rename it
[06:34] <sn4keeyez> hahaha
[06:34] <cube> just go to the directory
[06:34] <intarwebz> greencookie: internets
[06:34] <sn4keeyez> i didn't know that..
[06:34] <greencookie> :)
[06:34] <EruditeHermit> cube: which directory?
[06:34] <cube> your desktop
[06:35] <cube> or where its mounted
[06:35] <greencookie> Anyone know of any graphical enhancements for Gnome?
[06:35] <intarwebz> compiz fusion
[06:35] <EruditeHermit> cube: which file on the ipod controls the name?
[06:36] <intarwebz> greencookie: did you install gutsy?
[06:36] <astro76> greencookie, yeah... gutsy with compiz-fusion
[06:36] <intarwebz> it should offer compiz .5 with it
[06:36] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[06:36] <greencookie> so i just do sudo apt-get install gutsy rite?
[06:36] <cube> what happens when u right click and try to rename?
[06:36] <intarwebz> um
[06:36] <MasterShrek> greencookie, no
[06:36] <intarwebz> no
[06:36] <EruditeHermit> cube: it doesn't have the rename option
[06:36] <MasterShrek> !update | greencookie
[06:37] <cube> hold on i will hook 1 up
[06:37] <EruditeHermit> cube: it is greyed out
[06:37] <MasterShrek> ubotu!!!
[06:37] <sn4keeyez> ok after i typed sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid 'get off my network' what's supposed to happen?
[06:37] <cube> k hold on
[06:37] <greencookie> lol
[06:37] <MasterShrek> !update | greencookie
[06:37] <ubotu> greencookie: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:37] <MasterShrek> ubotu was afk =P
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about was afk =p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <intarwebz> heh
[06:37] <greencookie> rofl. I think ubotu was busy with this AI girlfriend.
[06:37] <greencookie> his*
[06:37] <MasterShrek> shes hawt
[06:37] <intarwebz> Alice?
[06:38] <intarwebz> SmartBuddy
[06:38] <greencookie> !alice
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <MasterShrek> lies!
[06:38] <greencookie> !smartbuddy
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartbuddy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <greencookie> he's a smart one;)
[06:38] <MasterShrek> heh, dont mess with teh bot too much tho greencookie some ppl might get mad at u
[06:38] <rathel> How do I stop Totem for loading every time I put in a DVD?
[06:38] <err-or> !mkv
[06:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:38] <err-or> what the hell is mkv
[06:38] <greencookie> Oh! Sorry. Didn't know.
[06:39] <Paradoxx> Is there a command to see the users currently registered on the system?
[06:39] <intarwebz> w
[06:39] <Dialntone> why couldn't it be avi or mpg ... but why mkV
[06:39] <intarwebz> oh nm, that shows logged in
[06:39] <intarwebz> Paradoxx: check your passwd file
[06:39] <MasterShrek> Paradoxx, users
[06:39] <MasterShrek> oh registered...yea /etc/passwd
[06:39] <sn4keeyez> Master, my computer is stating no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[06:40] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, is your router set to only release a certain number of dhcp addresses?
[06:40] <Paradoxx> MasterShrek: I'm looking at it now....what in there?
[06:40] <sn4keeyez> umm i don't think so... let me look
[06:40] <intarwebz> Paradoxx: that's where your users are
[06:40] <intarwebz> ta-da
[06:40] <SuperQ> ding!
[06:40] <Paradoxx> oh, nevermind
[06:40] <Paradoxx> Thank you much
[06:40] <cube> erudite hold on
[06:40] <nickrud> Paradoxx: users with numbers above 999 are real people, mostly
[06:40] <sn4keeyez> actually it is...but it's set to 50
[06:40] <EruditeHermit> cube: ok
[06:40] <chetnick> do i have to remove beryl before i install compiz-fusion?
[06:41] <intarwebz> chetnick: maybe, compiz-fusion replaces beryl so it'd serve to reason
[06:41] <friedtofu> err-or what are you asking about mkv? :/
[06:42] <greencookie> erm, is there an offtopic discussion room?
[06:42] <astro76> !ot
[06:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:42] <greencookie> thanks astro76
[06:42] <Pie-rate> just tried KDE... it seems better than gnome, not better enough to relearn a bunch of stuff though. Why was gnome chosen as the default for Ubuntu?
[06:42] <friedtofu> err-or if you're still there, mkv is a container file like avi... ah well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska
[06:42] <cube> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259688&page=2
[06:43] <greencookie> bye im going to #offtopic
[06:43] <astro76> Pie-rate, there's not a million options
[06:43] <intarwebz> Pie-rate: simplicity
[06:43] <friedtofu> lol. i like gnome better >.>
[06:43] <gunashekar> Pie-rate , i thought so too initially
[06:43] <Veinor> I figured out how to get firefox to do what I want it to do.
[06:43] <cube> i couldn't rename my ipod either so i looked it up and someone on the forum posted a way
[06:43] <Veinor> edit->preferences->advanced and enable autoscroll
[06:43] <intarwebz> Pie-rate: gnome has corporate acceptance, too
[06:43] <Dialntone> huh
[06:43] <Dialntone> container file
[06:43] <Pumpitup> why does openoffice release upgrades every day...is it that buggy
[06:43] <Dialntone> can it be downsized :(
[06:44] <Veinor> Pumpitup: it's usually really minor bugs.
[06:44] <cube> what else is there besides gnome and kde?
[06:44] <chetnick> i have never used compiz fusion, is it better than beryl?
[06:44] <MasterShrek> !wm
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <Veinor> cube: xfce
[06:44] <Pie-rate> intarwebz: i see. corporate acceptance i can see, but the simplicity thing... not so sure, KDE seems to organize its menus pretty intuitively.
[06:44] <friedtofu> xfce ...
[06:44] <friedtofu> hm.. there are others
[06:44] <intarwebz> chetnick: yes, it replaces it
[06:44] <friedtofu> fluxbox
[06:44] <Veinor> chetnick: beryl is technically discontinued now
[06:44] <cube> and what xubuntu for?
[06:44] <Veinor> so... I guess.
[06:44] <EruditeHermit> cube: ok thanks I'll try that now
[06:44] <Dialntone> friedtofu,  .. mkv file..
[06:44] <intarwebz> Pie-rate: but it offers "too many" options
[06:44] <Veinor> cube: xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce
[06:44] <MasterShrek> cube, fluxbox, enlightenment, blackbox, theres tons of them
[06:44] <Pie-rate> cube: speed
[06:44] <chetnick> ok
[06:44] <Veinor> yeah.
[06:44] <intarwebz> friedtofu: is fluxbox better?
[06:44] <Veinor> xfce is minimal
[06:45] <cube> what does it not feature compared to gnome or feature
[06:45] <cube> so if its minimal what can't u run
[06:45] <friedtofu> intarwebz - i havent tried it, but it uses less memory than xfce... :/
[06:45] <Pie-rate> cube: it has xfce, which is a minimal window manager, its more meant for older systems
[06:45] <MasterShrek> Veinor, compared to gnome or kde yes, but fluxbox is much smaller
[06:45] <intarwebz> cube: the main differences are usually the native apps (k-whatever, g-whatever) and how it handles administrative settings
[06:45] <intarwebz> friedtofu: impressive and noted
[06:45] <cube> thanks
[06:45] <sn4keeyez> Mastershrek, can i pm you?
[06:45] <intarwebz> gnome has admin settings in diff places, kde has k control panel
[06:46] <cube> xubuntu... not for me
[06:46] <Dialntone> bah brb
[06:46] <cube> yeah i like both kde and gnome but gnome is just what i am used to so i use it
[06:46] <sn4keeyez> I used xubuntu b/c my laptop is an ancient relic of the 90's
[06:46] <MasterShrek> sn4keeyez, if your nick is regged, else just join #MasterShrek
[06:46] <astro76> intarwebz, there's actually a gnome control center you can enable in System > Preferences by editing the menu
[06:47] <cube> i will check that out astro
[06:47] <intarwebz> astro76: thx, i didn't know that
[06:47] <astro76> intarwebz, there's a bunch of goodies not enabled by default in the menus
[06:47] <EruditeHermit> cube: I get "cannot initialise drive"
[06:47] <rathel> hmm.. mplayer isn't playing the right chapter when I just do mplayer dvd:// How do I find the correct chapter? It works on most other dvd's.
[06:47] <jrsims> what's a good GUI text editor?
[06:47] <intarwebz> astro76: no doubt, but it's all about the defaults because when you're converting pagans from microshaft, you can only cover so much ground per session
[06:48] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[06:48] <greencookie> SciTe
[06:48] <greencookie> :)
[06:48] <astro76> intarwebz, indeed, the defaults were chosen for a reason
[06:48] <bwidja28> help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:48] <cube> hold on
[06:48] <astro76> jrsims, assuming you've tried gedit?
[06:48] <intarwebz> hey are any of you guys by chance hot chicks?
[06:49] <jrsims> astro76: I have not
[06:49] <astro76> jrsims, that's the standard gnome one
[06:49] <jrsims> k
[06:49] <astro76> jrsims, still does syntax highlighting and all that
[06:49] <jrsims> astro76: that's what I'm after
[06:49] <intarwebz> wrong room
[06:49] <bwidja28> help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:49] <astro76> jrsims, if that doesn't suit try kate
[06:49] <cube> well i can't rename my ipod because its read only if you go to computer-ipod and right click what does your says read only>
[06:49] <Pie-rate> astro76: why the hell is this thing not enabled by default?!?!? wow, it shouldn't even be in System -> Preferences, it should be in System
[06:49] <astro76> heh
[06:50] <cube> in properties -permission
[06:50] <EruditeHermit> cube: yes it says read only
[06:50] <astro76> Pie-rate, you could right click it and add to panel
[06:50] <Newbuntu2> is there a way to install ubuntu off a USB drive? my cd drive doesn't work well
[06:51] <cube> ok hold on
[06:51] <astro76> !install | Newbuntu2
[06:51] <ubotu> Newbuntu2: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[06:51] <gcarrillo> hey all
[06:51] <Pie-rate> astro76: i mean for new users.
[06:51] <gcarrillo> what do people mean when they talk about "upstream"?
[06:51] <mikebot> What does this error in LaTeX mean: ! Missing number, treated as zero.
[06:51] <Pie-rate> astro76: it should be at least shown in preferences, if not moved up a level to System
[06:51] <astro76> Pie-rate, yeah they've decided on the preferences menu rather than a control center
[06:51] <astro76> it's kind of redundant
[06:51] <bwidja28> anybody can help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:51] <astro76> they being Ubuntu
[06:52] <Extravert> whats the built in calculator in command line?
[06:52] <Extravert> its two letters
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> !info bc
[06:52] <ubotu> bc: The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-20ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 65 kB, installed size 188 kB
[06:52] <Extravert> thanks
[06:52] <bwidja28> anybody can help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:52] <jrsims> Ok, I'm looking for a GUI text editor with a sidebar that shows me my directory tree. Ideas?
[06:52] <Felosis> i am debating getting a dell anyone here personally use one? any problems? comments?
[06:53] <Irreducibilis> Felosis: Dells are okay.
[06:53] <Irreducibilis> We use them at school and they are fairly fast.
[06:53] <Irreducibilis> Even with the Pentium Ds in them
[06:53] <bwidja28> anybody can help me...to solve monitor refresh rate
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Felosis now a days - you can just about price new pc's by the pound. :)  Depends on what you are going ot do with it and your budget a great deal.
[06:53] <Felosis> Irreducibilis well i mean like the ones that are supposidly fully hardware supported from dell.com/ubuntu
[06:54] <JCarlos> alguma brasileira ai ?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Dell annoys me when they try to force contract/warrenty/extras down your throat.
[06:54] <Irreducibilis> Felosis: Ah... no clue there. I use an XPS laptop though, thats all I know about dells.
[06:54] <astro76> !br | JCarlos
[06:54] <ubotu> JCarlos: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:54] <gcarrillo> i usually buy dell for the things i dont build myself
[06:54] <gcarrillo> the service sucks
[06:54] <gcarrillo> but the prices are good
[06:54] <gcarrillo> and i like the hardware
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> I just happened to find a Gateway on Sale last month. :) cheaper then what i could of built my own.. but i still would of been better off building my own. even if  there was a bit more cost to it.
[06:55] <nickrud> jrsims: gedit with the plugins, enable the file browser side bar
[06:55] <Felosis> hmmm well its a laptop and i dont want to be bothered trying to part it
[06:55] <bwidja28> :(
[06:55] <gcarrillo> yeah
[06:55] <gcarrillo> i got a d830
[06:55] <Felosis> Dr_Willis yea i saw that too
[06:55] <gcarrillo> latitude
[06:56] <Irreducibilis> Hm, I wonder if I could build my own laptip
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> The Linux laptops i hear are nice. BUT dell often has identical windows laptops with extra 'deals' that make them more of a value.
[06:56] <gcarrillo> not really
[06:56] <Irreducibilis> laptop...
[06:56] <Felosis> Irreducibilis you can its just not cost effective
[06:56] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[06:57] <Irreducibilis> Felosis: Wouldn't it be cheaper to stick a Core 2 Extreme and 4GB ram and SLI and all that good stuff in a laptop chassis myself rather than pay alienware to do it for me?
[06:57] <EruditeHermit> cube: I figured it out
[06:57] <gcarrillo> i got a latitude with windows, and installed ubuntu and used the windows disc to install a VM
[06:57] <Felosis> Dr_Willis true im trying different configs with and without windows, i also get a discount through work for dell so it pretty much evens out
[06:57] <chetnick> ok compiz fusion install
[06:57] <chetnick> installed
[06:57] <EruditeHermit> cube: mkfs.vfat -n ipod /dev/sda1
[06:57] <chetnick> :)
[06:57] <chetnick> but is there any control panel?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Felosis i do also.. but the discount we get is JUST on the 'extended service plans' - so its a rip off.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:57] <chetnick> found
[06:57] <chetnick> it
[06:57] <Felosis> Irreducibilis possibly in that case hard to say though honestly i havent priced parts on a laptop for about 3 years
[06:57] <nickrud> gcarrillo: what, no game partition :)
[06:57] <underwatercow> If I switch to Ubuntu 64-bit, will I miss anything important? Flash works on it now, right? or do you still have to use a third party like Gnash?
[06:57] <nomaS> chetnick: #compiz-fusion
[06:57] <EruditeHermit> cube: thank you so much for your help
[06:58] <Felosis> Dr_Willis you dont have to get the extended service plan, just tell it the 1 year and youll get a small but some discount =)
[06:58] <gcarrillo> nickrud: nope, i use the 360 for that :)
[06:58] <nickrud> smart
[06:58] <chetnick> ooo ok , didnt know
[06:58] <Pie-rate> Irreducibilis: have fun finding a lappy mobo/case that you can do SLI in. I'm sure anyone making an SLI laptop has made a deal with the mobo manufacturer
[06:58] <gcarrillo> SLI??
[06:58] <Felosis> Pie-rate exactly
[06:59] <nickrud> yeah, sounds a bit shakey to me
[06:59] <Pie-rate> gcarrillo: Scalable Link Interface
[06:59] <cube> gksudo and open the ipod
[06:59] <cdm10> macd: you here?
[06:59] <gcarrillo> Pie-rate: thx
[06:59] <Pie-rate> gcarrillo: a method developed by nvidia for running multiple graphics cards in parallel.
[06:59] <gregi_> we can have a audio conversation with amsn 0.97b me it's not work sorry my english i'm french
[06:59] <cube> it should be open as root then...i don't know why what that guy said to do in the post didn't work for u
[07:00] <macd> cdm10, yes?
[07:01] <Ishakabibble> !fstab
[07:01] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:01] <cdm10> macd: hey, could you send me a link to your page that details activity in #ubuntu?
[07:01] <cdm10> macd: I promise I'll bookmark it this time :)
[07:01] <macd> cdm10, I havent run the report in a few weeks
[07:01] <Zicks> Please help someone with Java for Firefox
[07:01] <macd> I'll give you the link but it wont be updated for about an hour
[07:01] <cdm10> macd: That's ok, can I have the URL anyway?
[07:01] <cdm10> macd: great, thanks
[07:01] <rathel> hmm.. mplayer isn't playing the right chapter when I just do mplayer dvd:// How do I find the correct chapter? It works on most other dvd's.
[07:02] <underwatercow> Does Flash work in 64bit now?
[07:03] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:03] <JohnDoe> Hi all!
[07:03] <JohnDoe> Do you all speak french or english?
[07:04] <MasterShrek> english
[07:04] <MasterShrek> !es
[07:04] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:04] <astro76> JohnDoe, this channel is English only, French in #ubuntu-fr
[07:04] <MasterShrek> oh french lol
[07:04] <MasterShrek> !fr
[07:04] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:06] <AnssiP> Why can't I "loadkeys fi-latin1" in console? And I can't list the available keymaps? How?
[07:06] <mistone> lol
[07:06] <JohnDoe> Any of you know how to exchange voice message with Ubuntu with friend who are with Windows Live Messenger?
[07:06] <coucou747> MasterShrek> I know
[07:07] <coucou747> JohnDoe> good luck...
[07:07] <AnssiP> I have default 7.04, should I installe something to get Finnish keyboard for console?
[07:08] <russe11> I have a subversion server running on Ubuntu 7.04. I'd like to turn that into a mirror of an existing subversion server, and have it automatically check for updates. Any ideas how I might accomplish this?
[07:09] <glassd> is anyone else having trouble running an update right now?
[07:09] <mistone> I don't have any ?
[07:09] <glassd> i just installed, tons of updates for me
[07:10] <mm_202> Anyone help me out with ripping a DVD with K3b?  Ive googled around but didnt find anything useful.
[07:10] <AnssiP> Should I use install-keymap instead of loadkeys?
[07:11] <mistone> mm_202: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVD::Rip
[07:11] <mm_202> mistone: thank you
[07:11] <mistone> I googled ubuntu rip dvd
[07:11] <mistone> lol
[07:11] <jdong> mm_202: you need to use Medibuntu repository's K3b to do encrypted DVD rips with it
[07:11] <jdong> mm_202: that's probably the component you were missing
[07:11] <snowglobe> how do i restart the sound in ubuntu?
[07:12] <speedy_> how can i switch wireless modes
[07:12] <mm_202> jdong: okay, thank you, I'll check that out.
[07:12] <glassd> i keep getting this error about not being able to authenticate packages while running an update
[07:14] <JohnDoe> Any of you know how to exchange voice message with Ubuntu with friend who are with Windows Live Messenger?
[07:14] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:16] <mistone> JohnDoe: two seconds of googling
[07:16] <mistone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3490831
[07:17] <DShepherd> JohnDoe, skype works...
[07:17] <adminn> guys were is the mirror blob screensaver pictures folder at?
[07:17] <yigal> does ekiga suck compared to skype?
[07:17] <adminn> anyone konw
[07:18] <JohnDoe> I can exchange voice message with Skype to WLM
[07:18] <ianm_> has anyone used the truecrypt-installer scripts in gutsy?
[07:18] <Avt3k> were does mirror blob screensaver get the pictures from?
[07:18] <DShepherd> JohnDoe, no. but if your friend downloads skype too
[07:19] <DShepherd> JohnDoe, you both can chat. but I am not sure if that's an option
[07:19] <speedy_> can i any1 tell me how can can i switch wireless modes?
[07:19] <Irreducibilis> !better
[07:19] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:20] <Avt3k> what about the mirror blob screensaver pictures folder??
[07:20] <yigal> Irreducibilis: was that "!better" pointed at me?
[07:21] <unagi> my god i will never buy a game through steam ever again
[07:21] <unagi> !offtopic
[07:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:21] <Irreducibilis> yigal: indeed
[07:22] <Irreducibilis> unagi: Concidering the server load.... better to buy the DVD
[07:22] <nomaS> !vnc
[07:22] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:22] <ramza3> anybody work with the pcsx playstation1 emulator and how to get a more recent version
[07:22] <sd32> how do I change desktop managers?
[07:23] <yigal> sd32: what dm do you want to change to?
[07:23] <sd32> kdm
[07:23] <JohnDoe> No option work with WLM!
[07:23] <Scunizi> sd32 when you boot look for the Options button on the login screen, click and then sessions.
[07:23] <yigal> sd32: do you have kdm installed already?
[07:23] <Avt3k>  were does mirror blob screensaver get the pictures from? <<<
[07:24] <speedy_> im havin trouble switchin wireless mode...can any1 wat can i do?
[07:24] <sd32> not shure, put kubuntudesktop on top of ubuntu
[07:24] <yigal> sd32: if not it should ask you when you install it, if you want to use it
[07:24] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:24] <Scunizi> sd32, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, then switch sessions the way I described.. you can make either one default.
[07:24] <ianm_> Colro: can't wait?
[07:25] <sd32> scunizi, thanks
[07:25] <Scunizi> np
[07:25] <Colro> ianm_: I'd prefer not to, this version runs like crap so anything that's a potential upgrade looks good.
[07:25] <yigal> sd32: I believe, if you have it, something like, "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" should do it
[07:25] <yigal> sd32: that is if you don't want the entire kubuntu desktop
[07:26] <[R] > does the livecd support S3 suspend to ram?
[07:26] <Colro> ianm_: Plus the current version has been out for two months and still isn't on the restricted manager, and doesn't look like it's going to be added to gutsy either.
[07:26] <oriana> hello
[07:27] <sd32> yigal, i am running kubuntu desktop right now
[07:27] <yigal> sd32: ok then dpkg-reconfigure kdm is probably what you will want to do
[07:27] <sd32> yigal, ok thanks
[07:28] <[R] > no one knows about suspend to ram?
[07:28] <rhetoric> is there any better looking irc client for gnome than xchat?
[07:28] <rhetoric> im not a fan of bitchx
[07:28] <sadita> hola
[07:28] <cafuego> rhetoric: irssi
[07:28] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, you can customize the look of xchat
[07:28] <MasterShrek> transparent background even
[07:28] <rhetoric> master, sort of
[07:29] <yigal> rhetoric: you can also customize pidgin
[07:29] <Scunizi> rhetoric, konversation is nice, irssi is nice but two different animals..
[07:29] <underwatercow> does flash work on 64 bit Ubuntu?
[07:29] <rhetoric> it looks ok with my gtk2 theme but meh, i'd rahter have something more customizable
[07:29] <oriana> trying to my nvidia working - have all files downloaded but stuck - display is 1024x768 - nvidia nx8600gt pci express
[07:29] <rhetoric> and not a terminal irc app im tired of it
[07:29] <Scunizi> !flash64 | underwatercow
[07:29] <ubotu> underwatercow: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:29] <underwatercow> what about Intel Core 2 Duo?
[07:29] <underwatercow> ;-D
[07:30] <MasterShrek> oriana, ive talked to about 4 people today who cant get that 8600gt to work
[07:30] <underwatercow> Scunizi: what about Intel Core 2 Duo?
[07:30] <SeveredCross> underwatercow: Same thing...
[07:30] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, mirc on wine
[07:30] <yigal> rhetoric: I just changed from irssi to pidgin, and am pretty happy with the results
[07:30] <SeveredCross> The x86_64 distro is the same for AMD64/C2D
[07:30] <rhetoric> well in that case, anyone have a good set of xchat settings (lol) for a dark blue background?
[07:30] <Scunizi> underwatercow, probably I just don't know what to referance for ubotu.. I run 32bit
[07:30] <rhetoric> im running ubuntu on an older ibook, no wine for me
[07:31] <underwatercow> SeveredCross: That's good to know... thanks
[07:31] <rhetoric> ppc chip no likey
[07:31] <oriana> mastershrek - so does this mean i'm without options?
[07:31] <underwatercow> SeveredCross, Scunizi: The main reason I'm now interested in 64 bit is the X-Fi drivers are 64 bit only :(
[07:31] <SeveredCross> Wine on PPC would be truly impressive.
[07:31] <rhetoric> indeed sev
[07:31] <MasterShrek> oriana, u can use vesa for now
[07:31] <MasterShrek> or nv
[07:31] <MasterShrek> underwatercow, whats X-Fi?
[07:32] <SeveredCross> Flash on 64 bit is possible via nspluginwrapper, though I have 0 experience with it (I have a Core Duo, Yonah core, 32-bit only).
[07:32] <rhetoric> i have alot of eyecandy working it looks alot better than whatever osx nonsense was on here when i got it
[07:32] <MasterShrek> i use nspluginwrapper for flash, works great
[07:32] <underwatercow> MasterShrek: Creative X-Fi... it's a sound card
[07:32] <yigal> SeveredCross: wine on ppc would be off the hook
[07:32] <oriana> mastershrek - will world of warcraft be out of the question then?
[07:32] <underwatercow> MasterShrek: is it hard to set up? or as easy as installing from a repo?
[07:32] <neocorleone> where can i download the skydemo
[07:32] <MasterShrek> oriana, most likely
[07:32] <rhetoric> flash sucks on ppc :/
[07:33] <MasterShrek> !flash64 | underwatercow
[07:33] <ubotu> underwatercow: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:33] <Scunizi> neocorleone, skydemo?
[07:33] <oriana> ummm - not to good...
[07:33] <mistone> flash sucks
[07:33] <rhetoric> gnash works, but you have to leech the flv file
[07:33] <rhetoric> wont work in browser
[07:33] <MasterShrek> underwatercow, theres a tut on there, pretty easy to do
[07:33] <yigal> mistone: but I want my youtube
[07:33] <rhetoric> at least on my box
[07:33] <BobBarker> I have a somewhat theoretical question, why does ubuntu have a server variant? Is that not contrary to the point of ubuntu as a desktop distro specializing in usability?
[07:33] <underwatercow> rhetoric: leech the flv file?
[07:33] <mistone> did you try gnash
[07:33] <BobBarker> wouldn't you just simply use debian if you wanted the package manager in a server enviroment?
[07:33] <rhetoric> there is a plugin for firefox that lets you download the flash video file from say youtube
[07:33] <MasterShrek> BobBarker, server is just the same as desktop, minus some programs and a gui, you can install things though and make it just like desktop
[07:34] <rhetoric> then you open that with gnash
[07:34] <yigal> mistone: gnash fails for some important stuff :(
[07:34] <underwatercow> rhetoric: why not use gnash directly?
[07:34] <BobBarker> MasterShrek, you just discribed essentially what debian is
[07:34] <BobBarker> described*
[07:34] <cafuego> MasterShrek: Not quite, server boots a different kernel by default.
[07:34] <rhetoric> that's what im saying underwatercow
[07:34] <MasterShrek> cafuego, yea i guess, but its pretty much the same
[07:34] <rhetoric> it works if you save the flash file and open it in gnash, but the browser plugin doesnt seem to work
[07:34] <BobBarker> im not sayinh ubuntu server is bad, just...redundant
[07:34] <mistone> it works with youtube :P
[07:34] <rhetoric> for my ppc box i mean, should be fine in windows
[07:34] <rhetoric> errr intel bleh
[07:34] <mistone> but your right
[07:34] <mistone> the web without flash sucks
[07:34] <underwatercow> rhetoric: I installed Gnash not long ago, and it works fine for me... well... it's a little tweaky
[07:35] <cafuego> BobBarker: Not at all, has different packages.
[07:35] <mistone> which in it of it self sucks
[07:35] <MasterShrek> nsplugwrapper works fine
[07:35] <rhetoric> on a powerpc box?
[07:35] <BobBarker> cafuego, but they both use apt-get and therefore can share repositories
[07:35] <underwatercow> rhetoric: then again, I am using Gutsy, and it lets you install Gnash as a plugin, so maybe that's why
[07:35] <cafuego> BobBarker: So?
[07:35] <yigal> mistone: yes, I use clive to download youtube clips anyway and then gnash to watch them
[07:35] <rhetoric> it's because of my ppc chip and otherwise antiquated hardware
[07:35] <rhetoric> im almost sure
[07:35] <cafuego> BobBarker: You saying I should do a desktop install on a server and then remove gnome again?
[07:35] <MasterShrek> BobBarker, its just ubuntu with a few different and alot less packages
[07:35] <rhetoric> i have the gnash plugin installed and it... kinda works
[07:35] <BobBarker> so why fork a distro specializing in desktop users into a distro specializing servers which is made redundant because ubuntu being a fork of debian
[07:36] <BobBarker> a very popular server distro
[07:36] <BobBarker> cafuego, im telling you to use debian
[07:36] <speedy87> im having problems my interface isnt accepting private ioctl....what does that mean?
[07:36] <MasterShrek> use slackware for a server
[07:36] <rhetoric> in the browser though, youtube videos are garbled and the controls dont work
[07:36] <BobBarker> I know what ubuntu server is, I'm a professional linux sysadmin
[07:36] <mistone> BobBarker: I would rather use ubuntu because of the ideas behind ubuntu
[07:36] <BobBarker> I'm just wondering why there is a fork of a fork to specialize in a field the origin distro (being debian) is in
[07:36] <cafuego> BobBarker: Because debian - bless them - have seen fir to throw certain useful packages out of the distro altogether. That and ubuntu is a bit more up to date these days.
[07:36] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:37] <BobBarker> cafuego, but you could simply just add ubuntu repos to apt-get
[07:37] <mistone> ubuntu isn't more up to date
[07:37] <rhetoric> ubuntu
[07:37] <rhetoric> ubuntu's dad could beat up debian's dad
[07:37] <BobBarker> mistone, that's not really an answer... "ideals"...
[07:37] <BobBarker> sounds like koolaid drinking to me
[07:37] <MasterShrek> slackware could beat up debians dad and ubuntus grandpa
[07:37] <rhetoric> :)
[07:37] <mistone> meaning debians requirements are to high for what makes a OS
[07:37] <BobBarker> im mulling this over, I'm trying to figure out why ubuntu server exists
[07:38] <cafuego> BobBarker: Install ubuntu packages on debian? And end up with an unmaintainable mess? You've never actually DONE this, have you?
[07:38] <BobBarker> mistone, you're not making sense
[07:38] <mistone> they want every little detial to be opensource, I am willing to give that up for moe functionality
[07:38] <BobBarker> mistone, then don't use debian, use something else
[07:38] <BobBarker> but all ubuntu is a redressed debian
[07:38] <yigal> I am on a debian unstable system right now :)
[07:38] <mistone> yea I use ubuntu thats what I am saying
[07:38] <cafuego> BobBarker: Ok, that's probably enough trolling for today.
[07:39] <yigal> compiz-fusion, and all the bells and whistles not too much difference
[07:39] <BobBarker> ubuntu is wonderful for desktop purposes, that's it's original design. But why make a fork of a fork?
[07:39] <mistone> ol
[07:39] <mistone> go to the wikipedia page on ubuntu
[07:39] <BobBarker> to fullfil a purpose already completed by the original distro that is
[07:39] <underwatercow> Does compiz-fusion work on KDE?
[07:39] <mistone> it explains it perfect lol
[07:39] <nickrud> single source support, maybe, BobBarker
[07:39] <mistone> underwatercow: yea
[07:39] <rhetoric> btw compiz-fusion and awn works on this 1.3ghz powerpc like a charm :)
[07:39] <BobBarker> nickrud, that's actually a good point
[07:39] <yigal> underwatercow: yes
[07:39] <rhetoric> awn-curves is awesome
[07:39] <BobBarker> considering ubuntu provides paid support, correct?
[07:39] <nickrud> yes
[07:39] <BobBarker> okay I'm satisified, carry on.
[07:40] <underwatercow> mistone, yigal: I had it working on Ubuntu (Gnome) then I installed kde-desktop, and it didn't seem to want to run in KDE.
[07:40] <mistone> rhetoric:  alot of is run the graphics card, makes sense
[07:40] <rhetoric> im not saying it doesnt make sense :) just is awesome
[07:40] <yigal> underwatercow: what instructions did you follow?
[07:40] <mistone> yep :D
[07:40] <underwatercow> yigal: none... I just installed kde-desktop, lol
[07:40] <rhetoric> im a first time linux fulltime linux desktop user so
[07:41] <yigal> underwatercow: to get cf to work you will need to follow some instructions
[07:41] <nanonyme> rhetoric, heh, then you don't really know how fast xubuntu would run on the system ;)
[07:41] <rhetoric> my previous experience in linux amounts (essentially) to trying to install slackware on a compaq in the 90's (yea that didnt go well)
[07:41] <underwatercow> yigal: I was hoping it would work on it's own... ;-D
[07:41] <rhetoric> and scripting in my scene kiddie days
[07:41] <yigal> underwatercow: you have a lot of faith, I like that :)
[07:42] <rhetoric> so to see this box running smoother and looking much better in linux than its "native" OS is awesome
[07:42] <underwatercow> yigal: seemed like a good enough approach at the time... I had no reason to believe it wouldn't work...
[07:42] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:42] <underwatercow> yigal: After I installed KDE... I re-decided that I didn't really have any use for KDE, and would rather stick with Gnome anyway... I was just curious why it didn't work
[07:42] <MasterShrek> underwatercow, install kubuntu-desktop and choose kde from the sessions option on your login screen
[07:43] <suupaabaka> why does compiz-fusion hate the xv video driver? :(
[07:43] <mistone> yea I like gnome alot better , I have used kde in a wihle tho
[07:43] <mistone> I remeber whole admin screens just not working lol
[07:43] <underwatercow> MasterShrek: Is that why the compiz didn't work? I was still using gdm...
[07:43] <yigal> underwatercow: I really like GNOME, I hated for a long time and only used the CLI but GNOME has come just such a long way
[07:43] <mistone> underwatercow: do you have ati or nvidia?
[07:43] <underwatercow> mistone: nvidia 8800 gts
[07:43] <MasterShrek> underwatercow, no, it shouldnt matter that you are using gdm
[07:44] <mistone> underwatercow: yea if you hook us up with error messages then we can help
[07:44] <MasterShrek> kde4 is going to rock the linux world
[07:44] <yigal> underwatercow: did you replace kwin, with "compiz --replace" etc.?
[07:44] <underwatercow> yigal: that would be a no
[07:44] <rhetoric> dont forget emerald --replace :)
[07:44] <rhetoric> im assuming you'd use that with compiz
[07:44] <yigal> underwatercow: it will take a little more work in KDE but it is not too difficult :)
[07:44] <miyaka> how can i integrate my http server to xmpp client?
[07:45] <rhetoric> ooh nvm in kde sorry i read wrong
[07:45] <underwatercow> yigal: I like the effects of KDE... but I don't really like the complexity... and I don't like how everything has a K in it...
[07:45] <therealnanotube> MasterShrek: when's kde4 coming out? is that gonna be in gutsy?
[07:45] <pentest> does dapper drake dont have the build-essential package?
[07:45] <funkyb> is it possible to run compiz on a tri-mon setup?  recently switched to ubuntu on my lappy and am having a great experience.  I'd love to load it on on the desktop, but that box is tri-mon...
[07:45] <suupaabaka> underwatercow: I second that.
[07:45] <therealnanotube> pentest: it has it
[07:45] <RamiKassab> hey guys, can anyone recommend some good regex helpers/builders/testers for ubuntu? I'm a newbie when it comes to regex and would like an app to help guide me
[07:45] <suupaabaka> KDE's naming system really bugs me.
[07:45] <pentest> therealnanotube
[07:45] <underwatercow> suupaabaka: both of them? or just one of them?
[07:45] <pentest> but it can't be downloaded
[07:45] <mistone> funkyb: just wait 3 days, the new release has it built in...
[07:46] <funkyb> thx mistone
[07:46] <pentest> root@staff:~# apt-get install build-essential
[07:46] <pentest> Reading package lists... Done
[07:46] <pentest> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:46] <pentest> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[07:46] <rhetoric> i hate things being spelled with k when it should be c, in general
[07:46] <therealnanotube> pentest: what exactly are you doing, and what's the error?
[07:46] <pentest> that's what it says
[07:46] <underwatercow> suupaabaka: never mind... you answered already ;-D
[07:46] <pentest> what should i do?
[07:46] <jmdc> I seem to remember that the dictionary applet used to build in spell checking, and now it doesn't. Am I mis-remembering? Was the feature cut? Is it something that can be turned on and off?
[07:46] <MasterShrek> therealnanotube, i dont think so, its avaiable in beta right now in gutsy, but im not sure when its going to be released
[07:46] <therealnanotube> RamiKassab: grep? :)
[07:46] <mehevi> pentest check your repositories
[07:46] <funkyb> i asked because youtube has several clips of compiz on duals, but non w/ tri-mon.
[07:46] <pentest> mehevi where is it located?
[07:46] <staykovmarin> hi is there a command to open the file browser from command line
[07:46] <RamiKassab> therealnanotube: lol, umm that would require actually knowing regular expressions :)
[07:46] <rhetoric> Mortal KDEombat
[07:46] <pentest> pm pls
[07:46] <underwatercow> I have enough issues trying to get a dual monitor to work with compiz
[07:47] <yigal> funkyb: you want it on 3 monitors :)
[07:47] <therealnanotube> MasterShrek: ah ic... im curious to see it ;) right now i'm using gnome, just because i like gnome's panel better... :)
[07:47] <yigal> funkyb: awesome
[07:47] <suupaabaka> underwatercow: i might give kde a proper go if they got rid of the naming convention, but seeing as that's unlikely, i'm left with gnome or e17 (if it ever gets released)
[07:47] <funkyb> :-)
[07:47] <rhetoric> does anyone know how i can find and replace a certain element of a gtk theme
[07:47] <MasterShrek> therealnanotube, what about gnome's panel is so pleasing?
[07:47] <underwatercow> suupaabaka: lol... that's ok... I love Gnome anyway...
[07:47] <pentest> mehevi
[07:47] <mistone> yea  I really like gnome to
[07:47] <mehevi> what.
[07:47] <rhetoric> namely the resize grabber on the notification area, etc.
[07:47] <pentest> where i can find the reposiroty?
[07:47] <underwatercow> Gnome has just seemed more reliable to me
[07:47] <yigal> gnome is just getting better and better quickly.  it was unusable 3 years ago
[07:47] <therealnanotube> RamiKassab: hehe hmm, true. how about searching for a regexp tutorial on the web? you know regexps also differ depending on the implementation... so you want to make sure you 'learn' the right one for your purposes :)
[07:48] <MasterShrek> suupaabaka, i thought e17 was released now
[07:48] <jmdc> staykovmarin: nautilus [options]  URIs
[07:48] <suupaabaka> yeah, it is reliable. a bit of a resource hog, but nothing compared to winblows
[07:48] <RamiKassab> therealnanotube: for example, Komodo ide has a great built in regex wizard and tester... I'm not using Komodo though, I use VI/Eclipse and need something to help. There's a bunch of regex tester plugins for Eclipse but not really any wizards that will help guide building the expressions
[07:48] <mehevi> oh sorry I was talking to someone in real life.  Try in etc/apt/sources.lst
[07:48] <underwatercow> Gnome also has much better support... it's default in many distros and gets features sooner than Kubuntu
[07:48] <suupaabaka> MasterShrek: It hasn't been released, though you can still use it.
[07:48] <MasterShrek> i know that suupaabaka, but i thought it got released like a week or two ago, but maybe i misread the rss
[07:48] <mistone> yea compiz kinda of fucked over e17 lol
[07:48] <pentest> mehevi yeah. what should be written in my sources.list?
[07:48] <suupaabaka> MasterShrek: Serious?
[07:48] <RamiKassab> therealnanotube: true, I'm looking to learn more the basics which are used in all languages then I can dwell more into detail
[07:49] <MasterShrek> suupaabaka, i could be wrong...
[07:49] <rhetoric> my major problem with compiz on this old machine: video sucks especially fullscreen
[07:49] <mr_butter> hey peeps.  I isntalled something using apt-get install cvs I want to remove it can someone help please?!
[07:49] <rhetoric> i got it working but it's slow and buggy
[07:49] <mehevi> pentest edit that file as root and deselect the CD repo.  make sure all the repositories are uncommented
[07:49] <Colro> I want to install the latest stable ATI drivers (8.40.4) but the newest in the restricted driver manager are 8.37.6 -- I know they work fine from word of mouth, but I have no clue what I'm doing and want to know just how to remove them and go back to the restricted manager version if they do mess up for me. Anyone able to help? ;x
[07:49] <MasterShrek> mr_butter, apt-get remove
[07:49] <suupaabaka> MasterShrek: Nah, still under development. If it got released, it'd be all over the place ;)
[07:49] <pentest> i did mehevi but nothing happens
[07:49] <mr_butter> thank you master
[07:49] <mr_butter> thank the heavens
[07:50] <therealnanotube> RamiKassab: ah hmm.. i've never run into any kind of regex wizard/tester things myself. :) i just kinda write a regexp, test it with grep, and if it works, wee. :) with some help from a regexp reference page or something.
[07:50] <rhetoric> screw the heavens! :P
[07:50] <MasterShrek> suupaabaka, i like e17, but its a pain to work with at first
[07:50] <mr_butter> hahahah
[07:50] <suupaabaka> MasterShrek: Tell me about it. And the lack of a systray drives me batty.
[07:50] <mehevi> pentest now do sudo apt-get update then try to get build-essential again
[07:50] <rhetoric> what's e17? excuse my total ignorance
[07:50] <mehevi> e17 is a window manager
[07:50] <suupaabaka> rhetoric: Enlightenment 17
[07:51] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, an alternative to gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox, etc
[07:51] <suupaabaka> rhetoric: Very fancy window manager.
[07:51] <rhetoric> gotcha
[07:51] <underwatercow> Colro: Most likely it would be as simple as making a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and replacing it if there's a problem, but I'm not expert
[07:51] <MasterShrek> its fancy and takes low resources
[07:51] <suupaabaka> rhetoric: Animated desktop wallpaper etc.
[07:51] <rhetoric> AH
[07:51] <underwatercow> Colro: I have an NVIDIA too, so that's my basis
[07:51] <rhetoric> caps lock boo
[07:51] <mehevi> how low of resources? Less than Xfce?
[07:51] <rhetoric> getting used to this laptop
[07:51] <mistone> caps lock is cruise control for awesome
[07:51] <alpha> Hi All - Will a Nvidia GeForce 7300 GS work in ubuntu?
[07:51] <jmdc> my experience is that the beauty is skin deep
[07:51] <pentest> i see now mehevi
[07:51] <pentest> thanks
[07:51] <MasterShrek> mehevi, i think so, but i may be wrong
[07:51] <mistone> alpha for sure
[07:51] <MasterShrek> alpha, it should
[07:51] <mehevi> pentest no prob glad I could help
[07:51] <suupaabaka> mehevi: I think it's about the same as xfce, unless I'm mistaken.
[07:52] <pentest> thanks a lot dude
[07:52] <yigal> what do you mean by resources?  GNOME works faster than wmii which is extremely light on resources
[07:52] <mehevi> Xfce is wierd.  I spent all day getting it to work right for me
[07:52] <alpha> great  thx a bunch MasterShrek  & mistone - mucho apreciate it  :o0
[07:52] <MasterShrek> thats cuz gnome has tons of crap preloaded into your ram
[07:53] <mistone> alpha, it work no matter what, its just a matter if you want to use the nvidia drivers , I highly recommond you do
[07:53] <yigal> MasterShrek: exactly but all DM do this even wmii does this its really the kernel doing it
[07:53] <MasterShrek> yigal, does wmii not load faster than gnome?
[07:53] <mistone> when you install it, it will ask if you want to use thier drivers
[07:53] <mehevi> well its not because its preloaded, it will let that stuff go if it needs more memory to allocate.  Plus what good is memory that isnt allocated to a task?
[07:53] <yigal> MasterShrek: loads yes, but it works in general slower
[07:53] <russe11> I have a subversion server running on Ubuntu 7.04. I'd like to turn that into a mirror of an existing subversion server, and have it automatically check for updates. Any ideas how I might accomplish this?
[07:53] <underwatercow> XFCE is pretty sweet, but it lacks some features I like
[07:53] <jml> hello
[07:54] <yigal> MasterShrek: and I have to reload X server as there are memory leaks in wmii that are totally not present in GNOME
[07:54] <underwatercow> What made Ubuntu so bad three years ago?
[07:54] <underwatercow> er
[07:54] <underwatercow> Gnome
[07:54] <mehevi> I got mine looking like an amiga desktop.  topaz-8.ttf for the win
[07:54] <yigal> underwatercow: I was using Debian 3 years ago
[07:54] <MasterShrek> yigal, i dont use wmii, so i wouldnt know, but i hate gnome
[07:54] <jml> I've got a macbook and an external keyboard running gutsy. Is there a way to get the alt/win key reversal to change when I plug my external keyboard in?
[07:54] <alpha> MasterShrek - yup I do - Want to run World of Warcraft - Should be ok huh?
[07:54] <mistone> underwatercow: KDE was a just better in alot of ways
[07:55] <rhetoric> is the official version of gutsy coming soon?
[07:55] <underwatercow> ah, ok...
[07:55] <mehevi> jml there is a kernel module specifically for that, cant remember what it is called
[07:55] <MasterShrek> alpha, yes, u shold be able to run it under wine, it may take a little bit of setting up though
[07:55] <underwatercow> 3 days
[07:55] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, thursdaty
[07:55] <funkyb> 18th :-)
[07:55] <mistone> honestly I don't remeber but it I just rember it being no compltion
[07:55] <underwatercow> well, 3 days for me
[07:55] <MasterShrek> thursday*
[07:55] <rhetoric> as a first timer really, how hard should the update be for me?
[07:55] <rhetoric> will i have to recompile alot?
[07:55] <alpha> MasterShrek - yea I'm up to it - how about using CrossOver?
[07:55] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, it shouldnt be bad, no recompiling
[07:55] <funkyb> are there significant changes between the beta gusty i used a week ago and the official release?
[07:55] <mehevi> afk
[07:56] <MasterShrek> alpha, no idea
[07:56] <zaatar_> Hey, is ssh not enabled/installed by default in the LAMP server of ubuntu 6.06?
[07:56] <MasterShrek> funkyb, mostly bug fixes i guess
[07:56] <funkyb> ty
[07:56] <alpha> mastershrek - thx
[07:56] <yigal> MasterShrek: you hate GNOME for what reason?
[07:56] <glassd> am i the only person having update problems?
[07:56] <jmdc> I am looking for a dictionary panel applet spell checker? (Which I'm 95% certain used to be turned on by default?)
[07:56] <rhetoric> what's the best M for me TFR as far as updating?
[07:56] <sauvin> I hate gnome for it's "look and feel".
[07:56] <mistone> ok e17 looks pretty now
[07:56] <mistone> I haven't seen the recent updates lol
[07:56] <MasterShrek> yigal, its crap, i got nothing, but i prefer kde
[07:56] <mistone> but can't you do alot of it in gnome?
[07:56] <MasterShrek> lol
[07:56] <underwatercow> funkyb: there are some changes, but I don't then anything major
[07:56] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[07:57] <rhetoric> atul: install the dependency?
[07:57] <jmdc> glassd: what problems are you refering to?
[07:57] <glassd> some error message saying packages couldn't be authenticated
[07:57] <atul> which dependacy i required. I had install all but still it gives me error
[07:58] <rhetoric> you installed the one it named?
[07:58] <yigal> MasterShrek: I used to like KDE the best I even flamed GNOME in Ubuntuforums but GNOME just grew on me, it works very well with very little work and for me as a scientist and not primarily a computer scientist that makes GNOME better.
[07:58] <glassd> the only other information i can get from the error is a huge list of packages (which seem to be the 300 or so that need to be updated)
[07:58] <jmdc> glassd: did you just do a new install or something?
[07:58] <atul> rhetoric, I install all dependancy but still which one is missing i dont understand.
[07:58] <glassd> yes i did
[07:58] <stunatra> I used to prefer KDE, but I grew to like Gnome, now I prefer it.
[07:58] <ToddEDM> so ok guys, when i get the transformers DVD, which is the best way to copy it? what program would you use?
[07:58] <MasterShrek> yigal, to each his own, im a gnome-basher tho lol
[07:58] <rhetoric> atul: did you install the one in the error message?
[07:58] <yigal> glassd: I want you to run: sudo apt-get update, for us
[07:59] <atul> rhetoric, Yes I install that one also
[07:59] <underwatercow> I'm going to goto sleep now, but before I do... a haiku...Haikus are easy / but they don't always make sense / Refrigerator.
[07:59] <MasterShrek> =P
[07:59] <jmdc> glassd yes, do that. Also, did you change your apt sources file? (If you don't know, you probably didn't)
[07:59] <yigal> underwatercow: ty, best have good shut eye
[07:59] <rhetoric> atul: ok then it's above my head :) i was going to suggest ways to find this package :/
[08:00] <underwatercow> yigal: thanks for your insight on whatever it was we talked about
[08:00] <rhetoric> maybe it's a matter of path definition?
[08:00] <atul> rhetoric, ok thanks anyway
[08:00] <glassd> i changed an option in the install manager to all programs to download vlc and gstreamer, but that's it
[08:00] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[08:00] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[08:00] <ToddEDM> can anyone tell me the best way to copy Transformers when i get it???
[08:00] <stunatra> atul, stop flooding.
[08:00] <MasterShrek> ToddEDM, the dvd?
[08:01] <ToddEDM> yes
[08:01] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: Are we allowed to tell that in here? lol
[08:01] <ToddEDM> lol
[08:01] <atul> stundatra, ya sorry by mistake
[08:01] <MasterShrek> ToddEDM, for backing up purposes right?
[08:01] <cafuego> ToddEDM: Is is legal for you to do that where you live?
[08:01] <ToddEDM> its for my own personal use... is that better?
[08:01] <rhetoric> atul maybe another package is preventing the dependency from functioning
[08:01] <MasterShrek> !info dvdrip
[08:01] <jmdc> glassd: what happened when you ran the command?
[08:01] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2572 kB
[08:01] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: It still has to be legal, but I have no room to talk ;)
[08:01] <glassd> it's still updating, lol
[08:01] <cafuego> ToddEDM: For personal sue still doesn't make it legal here in Australia.
[08:01] <glassd> my speed for downloading packages seems to be really slow
[08:01] <sd32> ok, one more problem, when I logout, the screen flashes to a blank screen and sits there,  never goes back to the login screen.
[08:02] <atul> rhetoric, actually i am very new to this platform thats why getting in trouble
[08:02] <ToddEDM> ok anyways, if it were legal, what would you use to burn it?
[08:02] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: pm
[08:02] <MasterShrek> !info dvdrip | ToddEDM
[08:02] <ubotu> toddedm: dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2572 kB
[08:02] <rhetoric> atul me too unfortunately :( what i mean is maybe another installed program is preventing this dependency from functioning
[08:02] <underwatercow> ooh... I wanna try that
[08:02] <underwatercow> lol
[08:02] <underwatercow> !info k9copy | ToddEDM
[08:02] <ubotu> toddedm: k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0~beta2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 649 kB, installed size 1764 kB
[08:02] <underwatercow> ahahaha
[08:03] <agtugo> #ubuntu-es
[08:03] <agtugo> upps
[08:03] <[chr0n0s] > how are my felow humans today :D
[08:03] <atul> rhetoric, ok anyway i ask to someone else
[08:03] <vodge> algum Brasileiro?
[08:03] <rhetoric> np
[08:03] <atul> rhetoric, thanks and keep in touch here
[08:03] <rhetoric> good luck
[08:03] <ToddEDM> so those programs will just copy it all... i dont need anything else?
[08:03] <atul> rhetoric, thanks
[08:03] <MasterShrek> [chr0n0s] , no humans here
[08:03] <[chr0n0s] > !!br
[08:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:04] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: I don't recall if I've tried dvdrip, but k9copy is very simple to use... it's my preferred
[08:04] <[chr0n0s] > MasterShrek : then fellow geeks :P
[08:04] <rhetoric> this channel moves too gd fast lol
[08:04] <MasterShrek> thats better
[08:04] <ToddEDM> underwatercow: thanks man, i will give it a try, i have both on my system
[08:04] <MasterShrek> rhetoric, #windows probably moves faster =P
[08:04] <rhetoric> hahah
[08:04] <rhetoric> good call
[08:04] <[chr0n0s] > rhetoric : that's why you type in this format --> <nick> : msg
[08:05] <glassd> ok, the update was successfull
[08:05] <rhetoric> chr0n0s, indeed
[08:05] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: k9copy will let you select what chapters and such you want, titles, subtitles, etc, then you can burn it directly, or to an iso... you can also change size in the settings... if you want to get it on a 4.7GiB DVD, then make sure the iso size is 4300
[08:05] <jmdc> glassd: you in general have a good connection though right?
[08:05] <[chr0n0s] > 2 more days, damn :(
[08:05] <glassd> yes
[08:05] <[chr0n0s] > my fiesty installation is broken :S
[08:05] <cafuego> MasterShrek: #windows is just a litany of "You need to reinstall." very boring.
[08:05] <ToddEDM> underwatercow:  thanks, thats good info
[08:05] <rhetoric> LOL cafuego
[08:05] <underwatercow> ToddEDM: I learned that the hard way ;-D
[08:05] <rhetoric> how did i guess
[08:05] <ToddEDM> lol
[08:06] <[chr0n0s] > cafuego : you can upgrade also, but i always like to reinstall
[08:06] <glassd> the apt-get update seemed to do the trick
[08:06] <ToddEDM> it comes out tomorrow doesnt it ?
[08:06] <rhetoric> #windows subject: "Boot from CD"
[08:06] <[chr0n0s] > ToddEDM : 2 more days
[08:06] <ToddEDM> ahh
[08:06] <MasterShrek> cafuego, thats all their bot says: reinstall
[08:06] <jmdc> glassd: you're getting the updates now? and its not slow?
[08:06] <cafuego> [chr0n0s] : You can't upgrade windows to ubuntu without an install ;-)
[08:06] <glassd> 3 hours to download the partial update though...
[08:06] <glassd> no, it's still slow
[08:07] <[chr0n0s] > cafuego : very true.. ;)
[08:07] <ToddEDM> well im of to bed guys, thanks for the help
[08:07] <rhetoric> btw im curious, if i somehow make my ubuntu partition unbootable on a mac ibook, how would i recover?
[08:07] <rhetoric> since i gues macs have no bios so to speak
[08:07] <[chr0n0s] > rhetoric : try alternate CD
[08:07] <jmdc> glassd: you can find a mirror that is better.
[08:07] <rhetoric> how would i boot from cd
[08:07] <[chr0n0s] > rhetoric : bios is on motherboard
[08:07] <jmdc> glassd: do this - go to system, software sources
[08:08] <[chr0n0s] > rhetoric : install OSx before you install linux ?
[08:08] <jmdc> glassd: click on download from, choose other, and then click on select best server
[08:08] <rhetoric> chr0n0s: ive only installed linux on this machine, and im just curious no biggie if you have no idea :)
[08:08] <[chr0n0s] > oww.. sry then.. never had a first had exp on mac books
[08:08] <jmdc> glassd: then magic happens ;-) and things get faster (we hope)
[08:08] <glassd> i guess the canadian server is poopy then, lol
[08:08] <rhetoric> just wondering hehe
[08:08] <rhetoric> not used to mac hardware
[08:09] <rhetoric> or linux :)
[08:09] <[chr0n0s] > rhetoric : mac might have nothing like grub, but bios is on hardware
[08:09] <rhetoric> 2 jumps at once
[08:09] <jmdc> it might just be getting pounded at the moment
[08:09] <rhetoric> im just curious what would you do
[08:09] <[chr0n0s] > i have no idea!
[08:09] <rhetoric> yay i win 1 million dollars :P
[08:09] <glassd> cripes, that's alot faster
[08:09] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[08:10] <[chr0n0s] > i;ll play mario on my ubuntu installtion :)
[08:10] <rhetoric> anyone know if there is a playstation emulator that works decently on powerpc ubuntu?
[08:10] <jmdc> glassd: you found a different mirror I take it?
[08:10] <glassd> oh yes
[08:11] <glassd> ~300kps now
[08:11] <glassd> instead of 12
[08:11] <rhetoric> im cool with compiling said emulator, but im too noobish for any custom compiling or troubleshooting
[08:11] <Lunz> how to edit splash between logon and desktop?
[08:11] <jmdc> great! Have a lot of fun
[08:12] <rhetoric> lunz: apt-get install gnome-splashscreen-manager
[08:12] <yigal> la fem nikita is here
[08:12] <Lunz> i want custome splash screen..
[08:12] <glassd> i know i will
[08:12] <yigal> maybe not
[08:13] <glassd> i'm not new to linux, i'm just new to ubuntu, lol
[08:13] <chetnick> hi, i was trying to setup the splashimage in grub. but when i reboot computer i get failed to read splash image splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/images/frag.xpm.gz
[08:13] <yigal> Lunz: you can make your own or get some at gnome-look.org
[08:13] <rhetoric> Lunz: that package will allow you to choose an image for your splash screen
[08:13] <yigal> Lunz: or other places
[08:13] <rhetoric> lunz: and also what yigal said
[08:13] <rhetoric> gnome-splashscreen-manager is a gui to configure it
[08:14] <rhetoric> does anyone have a good set of xchat color settings etc for a blue/white desktop theme?
[08:14] <[chr0n0s] > how do i kill a window... the skull+bones symbol
[08:15] <Lunz> rhetoric:thanks
[08:15] <PurpZeY> can kill accept a variable (e.g. from cat) as a pid?
[08:15] <rhetoric> lunz: np
[08:15] <Lunz> yigal:thanks
[08:15] <emman> what is the best irc?
[08:15] <yigal> Lunz: awesome
[08:15] <rhetoric> good question purp
[08:15] <[R] > PurpZeY: kill $(cat blah)
[08:15] <[chr0n0s] > emman : what you mean by best ?
[08:15] <rhetoric> emman do you prefer terminal or gui?
[08:15] <PurpZeY> [R] : Excellent. Thanks.
[08:16] <Cryx> Heya, anyone know how to change nanos charset? I have reconfigured locales and all but nano still wont show scandinavian marks as they supposed to be :(
[08:16] <emman> gui
[08:16] <yigal> rhetoric: do want to customize or have it work right away?
[08:16] <rhetoric> emman: xchat is probably the easiest
[08:16] <PurpZeY> [R] : If my plan were to try to kill two apps (scripts at once) could I set that up kill (cat line 1), kill (cat line 2) >
[08:16] <PurpZeY> ?
[08:16] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[08:16] <yigal> emman: pidgin is nice though
[08:16] <yigal> rhetoric: sorry meant emman
[08:16] <chetnick> rhetoric: i dont have gnome-splashscreen-manager
[08:16] <mistone> yea I use pidgin its good
[08:17] <rhetoric> yigal: you mean xchat colors? i was just wondering if someone had a good color theme going and wanted to dcc me their conf files
[08:17] <Coremonk22> nickruddddddd u here?
[08:17] <glassd> PurpZeY: if it's in a shell script idon't see why it wouldn't
[08:17] <chetnick> rhetoric: i have a lot of others gnome-*-manager-s but not that one
[08:17] <rhetoric> my desktop is dark blue and everything else is glass/clear
[08:17] <Coremonk22> sadness
[08:17] <yigal> rhetoric: no, not so much of a mod man
[08:17] <yigal> rhetoric: are you using glass icon set for gnome?
[08:17] <Coremonk22> Question for ya guys, well kind of extensive one haha
[08:17] <salzh> During compiling freeswitch, i got the error: make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[08:17] <salzh> make: *** [all]  Error 2.
[08:17] <rhetoric> i forgot the name of my icon set
[08:18] <rhetoric> i think i opted against glass
[08:18] <PurpZeY> glassd: Well, I am trying to kill two shell scripts with a keyboard shortcut
[08:18] <rhetoric> my gtk2 theme looks nice in xchat
[08:18] <rhetoric> just need to match the colors in xchat conf and im lazy :)
[08:18] <joe74> Hi I am having a big issue with IRC, it disconnect me all the time, any IRC I use it will do it, right now I am running Xcgat from live cd, can anyone see me>
[08:18] <[R] > salzh: that means nothing
[08:18] <mistone> rhetoric: what theme? I have tried all sorts of themes and the defualt is still the best I found
[08:18] <rhetoric> mistone: theme for what now?
 my gtk2 theme looks nice in xchat
[08:19] <Coremonk22> So I have a laptop with 160 gigs, it had vista installed. I installed ubuntu 7.04 and repartitioned the drive for like 20 gigs ubuntu, the rest vista. well, everything seemed to go ok, the ubuntu one had 20 gigs but when i logged into vista it had like 9 gigs total and some random unpartitioned space of 120 gigs or so...how do i repartition the 120 back into my vista partition?
[08:19] <rhetoric> oh gtk?
[08:19] <mistone> yea
[08:19] <rhetoric> i got it from gnome-art
[08:19] <glassd> PurpZeY: but your writing a shell script for the shortcut key right?
[08:19] <rhetoric> H20 something saphire
[08:19] <Coremonk22> and i cant login to my windows partition anymore because i deleted the linux distro
[08:19] <drewbenn> Hey folks, still learning about linux/ubuntu: where, in the filesystem, is the 'Applications' (ubuntu feisty / gnome) menu located?  i.e. in MS Windows the Start Menu is a bunch of shortcuts located somewhere like \all users\<me>\start menu\ ... is the Ubuntu 'Applications' menu a similar beast, and if so, where is it?
[08:19] <Agent_bob> i have an issue with the keyboard not working correctly
[08:20] <Coremonk22> so it trys to load "grub" but cant load it
[08:20] <Coremonk22> so it just says error
[08:20] <mistone> drewbenn: top right corner of the screen it says aplications :P
[08:20] <yigal> Coremonk22: just use a live cd and install grub
[08:20] <joe74> can anyone see what im typing
[08:20] <Coremonk22> hmph
[08:20] <Coremonk22> good idea
[08:20] <Agent_bob> drewbenn in a terminal    echo $PATH
[08:20] <Coremonk22> im an idiot
[08:20] <yigal> joe74: yep
[08:20] <Coremonk22> thanks for the reality check yigal
[08:20] <Coremonk22> =]
[08:20] <yigal> Coremonk22: cool man
[08:20] <yigal> Coremonk22: :)
[08:21] <Agent_bob> drewbenn why do you want to know ?
[08:21] <PurpZeY> glassd: I was hoping it could just be kill && kill...I am new to scripting...but I am already calling two scripts...I just thought it would be less bloated that way
[08:21] <jmdc> drewbenn: its somewhat different than windows. The easiest thing is to right click on applications and choose edit menues
[08:21] <jmdc> menus*
[08:21] <drewbenn> just curious, I want to understand where & how things are.... 'path' is a handful of 'bin' and 'sbin' directories.
[08:21] <yigal> glassd: you want to kill scripts so what is the problem?
[08:21] <zaatar_> how can i remove all the folders called .svn and their contents in the current directory?
[08:21] <Agent_bob> drewbenn generally speeking, there is nothing outside of the users $HOME that concerns them.
[08:22] <jmdc> drewbenn: I think some people misunderstood you
[08:22] <yigal> zaatar_: rm -r *.svn
[08:22] <drewbenn> jmdc I think so, too :)  I'm not specifically tring to edit the menu, just learn _where_ it is... there are a _lot_ of . directories in my home dir, so still trying to figure out what they all are & why.
[08:22] <yigal> zaatar_: or filter for .svn with nautilus and delete them graphically?
[08:23] <mistone> drewbenn: um the top right corner of your screen
[08:23] <mistone> it says applications
[08:23] <yigal> zaatar_: there are a million ways
[08:23] <glassd> PurpZeY: what i'm trying to say is that i think the code linked to the shortcut is scripting, so it should work
[08:23] <mistone> it says applicatinos
[08:23] <mistone> right there
[08:23] <mistone> you don't have to go scrunging around your drive :P
[08:23] <Doomguy0505> Anyone know why apt-get update hangs here?
[08:23] <drewbenn> Yes, I know :) I can run everything through that 'Applications' menu... I just want to know _where_ those shortcuts (assuming they are links of some sort) are stored.
[08:23] <Doomguy0505> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Packages
[08:23] <Doomguy0505> 99% [Waiting for headers]
[08:24] <Agent_bob> drewbenn oh the crap in ~/.????   yeah.  most of what's hidden is hidden for a reason too.
[08:24] <mistone> drewbenn: I have been using ubuntu for a year and I never needed to know
[08:24] <yigal> mistone: that's amazing
[08:24] <mistone> I mean its somewhere for sure but who cares
[08:25] <drewbenn> agent_bob yeah, I know that, too :)  I've learned the hard way not to delete or move files... I just am happier when I know what & why & how.  And links inside the Applications menu seems like a straightforward way to start.
[08:25] <yigal> mistone: what kind of computer do you have to have that kind of luxury?
[08:25] <PurpZeY> glassd: Got it. . .Thanks.
[08:25] <mistone> yigal: why would you want to know that ?
[08:25] <mistone> lol  I mean
[08:25] <mistone> why would you want to know where those shortcuts are?
[08:25] <yigal> mistone: I have been using ~/.config_files since the very first day of linux?
[08:25] <mistone> haha
[08:25] <mistone> I see what you mean now
[08:25] <mistone> yea it is amazing
[08:26] <Cryx> Heya, anyone know how to change nanos charset? I have reconfigured locales and all but nano still wont show scandinavian marks as they supposed to be :(
[08:26] <mistone> I still compile stuff by hand sometimes :P
[08:26] <drewbenn> heh, I had a computer at work where I had that kind of luxury: the productivity team took care of everything and I just focused on my job; now I have a linux machien at home and want to know a _little_ about the things they used to take care of for me.
[08:26] <yigal> Cryx: ya, use Vim :)
[08:26] <Agent_bob> drewbenn if there is something specific you want to know, seeing that your questions has been answered several ways, and by several people; just ask.
[08:26] <mistone> drewbenn: your thinking about it backwords, figure out what you want to do, then find ways to do it
[08:26] <mjbrooks> drew, it's probably under ~/.gnome or ~/.local
[08:27] <drewbenn> okay, question still is: 'applications' seems to be a folder somewhere, with a bunch of subfolders, each with several links.  Where would that folder be located?  In my home dir? elsewhere? what would it be called?
[08:27] <vishalrao> hello. any chance of work/support for tablet pc's and their touchscreens and fingerprint readers? i have a new hp pavilion tx1302au and i got wireless and touchscreen working with commandline tinkering. still researching possibilities for the authentec aes1610 fingerprint reader :)
[08:27] <chuy_max> is there some way to load a 2.6.15 kernel module in 2.6.20 kernel?
[08:27] <mistone> drewbenn, all that stuff is gnome
[08:27] <Agent_bob> drewbenn /usr/share   maybe.
[08:27] <drewbenn> ...doesnt appear to be under ~/.gnome.
[08:27] <yigal> vishalrao: I would like to know if you get fingerprint detection working
[08:28] <jmdc> drewbenn: its not actually a folder of links, its created by reading in a few files.
[08:28] <mistone> drewbenn: seriously who cares, if you were using windows you wouldn't care
[08:28] <vishalrao> yigal: i've got some links off google to start reading on. will work on it this week. doesnt look too good tho :)
[08:28] <drewbenn> (I'm still new enough to linux on the desktop that I don't know _where_ to look for these files, yet: .gnome doesn't spring to mind immediately, yet)
[08:28] <Agent_bob> drewbenn also.   /usr/lib/gnome*  maybe.
[08:28] <mistone> learning how the kernel works is a decent use of your time maybe
[08:28] <drewbenn> jmdc, thanks, useful information: a different way of thinking.
[08:29] <mistone> where the menu icons are, not at all....
[08:29] <mistone> brb going to try e17
[08:29] <yigal> vishalrao: there are several areas where linux is just not there yet, for instance voice recognition but with enough time and a little effort - good luck :)
[08:29] <jmdc> drewbenn: It took me a long time to figure that out too.
[08:29] <atul> How to install anjuta 1.2.4a I install this first then install 2.1 and then again remove all and now I want to install 1.2.4a How to do it.    While Manually installinig this version of anjuat it gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable : libvte4
[08:29] <yigal> atul: do you also want 2.1 installed?
[08:30] <jmdc> drewbenn: I still don't really understand where it all comes from, and have accepted it as magic. If I really want to edit the menu, I can always right click on it and say "edit menus" but now I am curious, and I'm digging around looking for the relevant file.
[08:30] <drewbenn> soooo, ummm... where would this magic file be located?   Is it a collection of files, or one master file?
[08:31] <mjbrooks> drewb: it's one file
[08:31] <jmdc> drewbenn: I think the design is to have several files, one for the whole system, and then user customization files on top, but let me look around a bit
[08:31] <glassd> yay, time to install the update
[08:31] <glassd> bbl
[08:31] <Agent_bob> there is an infonode for the file system higherarchy    if someone knows the bot call....
[08:31] <oriana> MasterShrek - What's a good gui file manager for Ubuntu?
[08:32] <Agent_bob> oriana gentoo
[08:32] <Agent_bob> oriana well maybe not for you.   :)
[08:32] <oriana> gentoo - funny
[08:32] <drewbenn> jmdc - magic's certainly okay :) ... until I try to figure out that piece of magic! Then I want to know the trick!   In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.55-1.1 (feisty), package size 764 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[08:33] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:33] <jmdc> drewbenn: exactly. And I'm glad you're interested, because its providing a push to learn something thats been in the back of my mind a long time
[08:34] <oriana> sorry thought u were talking about Gentoo Linux os
[08:34] <MasterShrek> oriana, depends on if you are using gnome, kde, etc
[08:34] <oriana> gnome
[08:34] <drewbenn> cheers, jmdc :)
[08:34] <MasterShrek> oriana, nautilus i spose
[08:34] <Agent_bob> oriana yeah,  i like to squeeze that one in on people that don't know about gentoo file manager  :)
[08:35] <neo_satellite> hi, everybody
[08:35] <ianm_> anyone have a public DNS server ip they can give me?
[08:35] <oriana> kool - thats all i needed - used to to konquer in kde - easy to get around - one these days will become better at terminal use
[08:35] <mjbrooks> drew  I'm running KDE, but I believe your looking for the /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu file which.. if I recall is an XML document that lists the menu structure in GNOME since 2.8 methinks
[08:36] <oriana> thx - mastershrek
[08:36] <Agent_bob> so i have a keyboard that the ctrl keys don't work(inside of X) unless i reset the keyboard with the magic sysRQ key combo,   can anyone help me with this ?
[08:36] <mjbrooks> drew, and I recall there's a corresponiding spot for .dierctory files at /usr/share/gnome/vfolders/
[08:36] <drewbenn> mjbrooks, yes, that looks like it has the menus, great starting point, thanks!
[08:37] <mjbrooks> =D
[08:37] <Felosis> ianm_ <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:37] <drewbenn> hmm, no 'vfolders' subdir there, but still plenty to search for, thanks mjbrooks!
[08:38] <ianm_> Felosis: thanks!
[08:38] <Felosis> ianm_ np =)
[08:38] <Agent_bob> drewbenn notice that most of the .desktop files are just launchers for the executables in the  /usr/*bin/ dirs...
[08:39] <Agent_bob> keyboard ...  anyone ?
[08:39] <mjbrooks> ?
[08:39] <Agent_bob> so i have a keyboard that the ctrl keys don't work(inside of X) unless i reset the keyboard with the magic sysRQ key combo,   can anyone help me with this ?
[08:39] <drewbenn> Agent_bob -- '.desktop' files in where?
[08:40] <Felosis> Agent_bob what kind of keyboard is it, is it a laptop keyboard, desktop, usb, ps/2
[08:40] <mjbrooks> drew, $ locate *.desktop
[08:40] <Agent_bob> drewbenn i'm not so familear with gnome.   in kde i'd say  /usr/lib/kde/  but i think  /usr/share/gnome/ something....
[08:40] <Agent_bob> Felosis 102k ps2
[08:41] <crolle17> i installed openvpn-package. and now i want to configure the my_open_vpn.conf which information of the server do i need?
[08:41] <drewbenn> ah... is 'locate' the bash-equivalent of ksh's whence?  Or some super-'find'?  It found a _lot_ of *.desktop files.
[08:41] <JohnRobert> how can I find my cpu temperature?
[08:41] <abhibera> how do i get all gstreamer packages?
[08:41] <Agent_bob> drewbenn no i think that would be   where blah
[08:41] <abhibera> !gstreamer
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <JohnRobert> !cputemp
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cputemp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <yigal> drewbenn: I believe locate is uses find and a database to catalog all the files on the hd
[08:42] <Felosis> Agent_bob ok so just a generic ps2 keyboard, you might want to take a look at xorg.conf or the xorg reconfig tool and see if your keyboard is set correctly since you shouldnt have to do anything special to get it to work
[08:42] <rhetoric> john robert you might look into installing lmsensors
[08:42] <Agent_bob> JohnRobert cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[08:42] <crolle17> !openvpn
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openvpn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <drewbenn> yigal cool, thanks!
[08:42] <rhetoric> or what bob said :)
[08:43] <Agent_bob> Felosis correct.  go on.
[08:43] <JohnRobert> ta Agent_bob
[08:43] <JohnRobert> at what temp should I start worrying
[08:43] <Agent_bob> np JohnRobert
[08:43] <JohnRobert> temperature:             63 C
[08:43] <Agent_bob> 70c
[08:43] <JohnRobert> it's an ibm thinkpad
[08:43] <mjbrooks> John  see any flames?  no  dont' worry   yes  worry   ;)
[08:44] <crolle17> lol
[08:44] <Irreducibilis> 70c ?!
[08:44] <Agent_bob> yes about 70c start worring
[08:44] <Felosis> Agent_bob other then doing that there is nothing else i could think of, you dont have another kb or another pc you can test it on, maybe one with windows so we can see if its a linux problem or just a hardware issue
[08:44] <trogdor> what up my homies
[08:44] <Irreducibilis> Do you really want to run it to the point of plastic melting?
[08:44] <JohnRobert> what's hot to a human isn't necessarily hot to a pc
[08:44] <Felosis> hehe 70c, WOW!
[08:44] <mjbrooks> boiling an egg on your CPU brings the temp down and provides the user with a tasty and healthy snack
[08:44] <Felosis> thats 158 F
[08:44] <trogdor> Agent_bob: what's the prob?
[08:45] <JohnRobert> unless you're touching said cpu
[08:45] <JohnRobert> lol, Fahrenheit
[08:45] <Agent_bob> trogdor the keyboard [ctrl]  only works in console  not in X
[08:45] <Irreducibilis> Trogdor was a man. I mean, he was a dragon man. Or maybe he was just a dragon. But he was still TROGDOR!! *plays frets*
[08:45] <Irreducibilis> :)
[08:46] <trogdor> Agent_bob: there are some keyboard hooks such as "ctrl alt backspace" to restart X and many others, perhaps that file for you is corrupted or has wrong settings
[08:46] <Agent_bob> trogdor it's the ctrl+alt+<anything>  that i need to work.   specificlly f#
[08:46] <Tr0gd0r> wow another trogdor
[08:46] <Tr0gd0r> how dare he
[08:47] <Irreducibilis> Another dragon! eek!
[08:47] <mistone> e17 is not worth using
[08:47] <mistone> compiz+gnome is better
[08:47] <Agent_bob> trogdor i can reset to Xlate and it works but that makes a screen shot each time...
[08:47] <Felosis> brb
[08:47] <davemlinux1> How do i fix the logout sound on ubuntu 7.10 since doesnt play when i logout or shutdown?
[08:47] <mistone> but those picture menubars are awesome :P
[08:47] <trogdor> Agent_bob: screen shot?
[08:47] <Agent_bob> yeah.
[08:47] <davemlinux1> I when to sounds but doesnt work
[08:48] <LordLimecat> hey, i was running nvidia-glx-new, and attempted an update to nvidias recent binary 100.14.19 driver, and things havent gone perfectly :\ trying to figure out how to get it to work, can anyone help me out?
[08:48] <trogdor> davemlinux1: perhaps wrong sound file, try wav file or something
[08:48] <Lunz> what is the default resolution for splash?
[08:48] <drizzyt> can anyone tell me where to find a pdf manual for ubuntu?
[08:48] <mistone> drizzyt: that would be a bigass manual :P
[08:49] <mjbrooks> !gutsy > davelinux1
[08:49] <mistone> just google specific things you want
[08:49] <Agent_bob> trogdor you do know about alt+sysRQ+R   or am i talking to the wrong fellow still ?
[08:49] <moose> HELLO CAN SOMEONE HELP ME!
[08:49] <mjbrooks> !ask
[08:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:49] <Irreducibilis> moose: HI MR. CAPSY LOCKE!
[08:49] <mistone> caps lock is cruise control for awesome
[08:49] <yigal> davemlinux1: that is one problem I have found, GNOME doesn't really do sounds right that is one place where KDE is far superior IMO
[08:49] <Flannel> drizzyt: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/  7.04 doesn't have a PDF version I don't believe.  But it would be at help.ubuntu.com if it were.
[08:50] <davemlinux1> I did sound-sounds-enable (esd),play system sounds-logout it is check on logout
[08:50] <LordLimecat> noone can help with my driver issue? :(
[08:50] <[chr0n0s] > LordLimecat : driver of ?
[08:50] <yigal> davemlinux1: I have the same problem right now
[08:50] <LordLimecat> nvidia
[08:50] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Perhaps reverting to a previous driver?
[08:50] <mjbrooks> !nvidia
[08:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <Irreducibilis> I use 93.6x
[08:50] <LordLimecat> well, im not sure quite how to remove the new driver
[08:50] <trogdor> Agent_bob: that isn't one of those keys handled by the X server though
[08:50] <LordLimecat> or if its installed :\
[08:51] <moose> MY ATI CARD WON'T WORK IN UBUNTUS, BUT WORKS IN ARCH LINUX
[08:51] <moose> WHY IS THIS
[08:51] <Irreducibilis> Well I know windows lets you roll back drivers....
[08:51] <moose> ARCH LINUX IS FASTER
[08:51] <mistone> lol
[08:51] <mistone> hahaha
[08:51] <mistone> UBUNTUS
[08:51] <trogdor> Agent_bob: on some distros ctrl alt delete restarts system but its usually blocked because of windows noobs. Try googling that fact and finding the config file for ubuntu
[08:51] <mistone> awesome
[08:51] <LordLimecat> Irreducibilis: not if a driver install gets stuck halfway
[08:51] <riotkittie> for tha same reason your caps lock key doesnt work in ubuntus, one assumes, moose
[08:51] <Tr0gd0r> //echo $asc(C)
[08:51] <mistone> I am totalling using that
[08:51] <[chr0n0s] > i have a USB hard drive.. and it has 2 partitions... when i plug it in.. it mounts both partitions.. how do i stop that from happening ?
[08:51] <mjbrooks> mistone  ;)
[08:51] <yigal> moose: UBUNTU ROCKS
[08:51] <Irreducibilis> MR. CAPSY LOCKE: I HAVE NO CLUE, MAYBE YOU SHOULD FIX THE DRIVERS.
[08:51] <mistone> its like internets
[08:51] <mjbrooks> TUBES!!
[08:52] <drewbenn> heh, another silly beginner question: I want to run a file IN MY UBUNTUS from a terminal as if I double-clicked it in a file browser window... is there a shell command (ubuntu/gnome) that will open it with the 'correct' associated application (as in windows' 'start' or mac os x's 'open')?
[08:52] <riotkittie> [chr0n0s] : are those partitions in fstab? if so, edit the one you dont want out
[08:52] <mjbrooks> lol  drwe
[08:52] <moose> MY NAME IS MOOSE, NOT CAPSY LOCKE
[08:52] <Lunz> yigal:ubuntu very cool..
[08:52] <Agent_bob> trogdor sounds like the bums rush.   here's your coat, and here's your hat; now what's your hurry....
[08:52] <moose> PLUS ITS LOCK RIGHT?
[08:52] <Irreducibilis> LOCKE IS MORE OF A "NAME" THAN THE OBJECT.
[08:52] <riotkittie> moose: it's obnoxious, so please stop
[08:52] <[chr0n0s] > riotkittie : nope they are not
[08:52] <moose> i laughter as well
[08:53] <[chr0n0s] > riotkittie : it's a USB hard drive..
[08:53] <mjbrooks> drew  depends on what file you are opening and with what
[08:53] <Irreducibilis> You.... *verb = infinitive* as well?
[08:53] <riotkittie> [chr0n0s] : i got that :P
[08:53] <moose> my usb doesnt work so graphics is messed up?
[08:53] <moose> fps is slow with ati
[08:53] <moose> maybe i need nvidias driver
[08:53] <moose> NO?
[08:53] <drewbenn> mjbrooks - any file, I want it to open as if I navigated to the directory (slowly) with the 'file browser' and then double-clicked on it.  Is there something that will do that?
[08:53] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, support for opening files from the CL is provided by the app itself
[08:53] <Irreducibilis> Its like in french when someone says "Je parler" .... "I to speak?"
[08:54] <yigal> moose: calm down everything will work
[08:54] <riotkittie> [chr0n0s] : you are using ubuntu, right? [as opposed to (x/k)ubuntu]
[08:54] <moose> JE PARLE
[08:54] <crdlb> moose, you can't use nvidia's driver with an ATI card...
[08:54] <moose> IS IT I THINK
[08:54] <moose> I USE THE ATI DRIVER
[08:54] <[chr0n0s] > riotkittie : yup ubuntu fiesty
[08:54] <moose> BUT DONT WORK WELL ON LINUX
[08:54] <crdlb> moose, stop that
[08:54] <Irreducibilis> moose: Ah, Tu parles francais bien?
[08:54] <yigal> moose: is this like Descarte, "IS IT I THINK" ?
[08:54] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, Assuming it's an executab;e file, just type the name of the app, but you may need the path as well
[08:54] <[chr0n0s] > !caps | moose
[08:54] <ubotu> moose: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:55] <moose> UBUNTUS IS funny and fiesty
[08:55] <moose> what is shout?
[08:55] <drewbenn> Moose just a hint... typing in all caps is a good way to annoy people, please don't.
[08:55] <moose> i use capslock not shout
[08:55] <Irreducibilis> moose: Est-ce que tu habite?
[08:55] <[chr0n0s] > caps == shout
[08:55] <app_> Greeting from our Linux basics course!
[08:55] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, if it's a document, you may have to call the file as an argument to the program you want to open it with
[08:55] <moose> caps is shout in america
[08:55] <Agent_bob> drewbenn executable files can be executed in a termenal with   ./filename
[08:55] <moose> why is this
[08:55] <[chr0n0s] > it's everywhere
[08:55] <moose> i use it so i can see me talk in room
[08:56] <moose> otherwise small letter all looks the same
[08:56] <yigal> moose: you should use a special color for your name
[08:56] <Flannel> moose: Please take the non-support chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[08:56] <mjbrooks> moose, do you forget what you say often?
[08:56] <drewbenn> Okay thanks, mjbrooks.  Coming from my Mac & Windows backgrounds, there is a command to open a file "as if you double-clicked it" in each OS's shell ('open' in mac; 'start' in MS).
[08:56] <Agent_bob> drewbenn shell scripts that are not set executable   can be executed with    bash ./filename
[08:56] <[chr0n0s] > drewbenn : you got that working ?
[08:56] <trogdor> drewbenn: use exec or the path to the file to do that
[08:56] <[chr0n0s] > open filename.pdf works ?
[08:56] <moose> it's ok, i sudo sued into my x86 business, updated the drivers and got the thing working
[08:57] <webwiz> msg nickserv ID zoa1r4
[08:57] <moose> no thanks to you guys
[08:57] <moose> geeze
[08:57] <yigal> drewbenn: or set the PATH variable to include the working directory "."
[08:57] <LordLimecat> well now restricted-driver-manager doesnt think i NEED drivers :\
[08:57] <riotkittie> [chr0n0s] : what i would do is go to Preferences > Removable Drives and Media [or wahtever it is under Feisty] , Storage > turn off mount removable hard drives when hot-plugged. then copy your fstab to fstab.old, and edit the original to mount the one partition you do want mounted
[08:57] <drewbenn> Yes, I know how to execute a file :) sorry I'm not being clear... I want to, say, open a .txt file in the default text editor; or open an .html file in the default web browser, or open the default ".NNN" file in the default "NNN" application.
[08:57] <magnetron> what CLI web browsers supports JavaScript?
[08:57] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Restricted driver manager is teh-suxzors.
[08:57] <Flannel> drewbenn: there is one for linux too (well, its window manager specific).  I don't remember what it is however.
[08:57] <LordLimecat> please dont link me to that article, btw, ive read it and wouldnt be here if i didnt need real help :\
[08:57] <trogdor> magnetron: perhaps links2?
[08:57] <LordLimecat> Irreducibilis: do you have a suggestion?
[08:57] <Agent_bob> drewbenn  other types of scripts with their respective shell     perl ./blah.pl       python ./blah.py     and so on...
[08:58] <LordLimecat> my goal is to remove all traces of the old driver and install the new one :\
[08:58] <magnetron> trogdor: trying... having trouble using it
[08:58] <Flannel> drewbenn: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/12/16/gnome-open-open-anything-from-the-command-line/
[08:58] <drewbenn> okay, I think the answer to my question is, "No, it can't be done." :)
[08:58] <LordLimecat> last time i did sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new and installed the new one, but that didnt really work
[08:58] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Using an easier distro of linux, or just WinXP if that suits your needs.
[08:58] <riotkittie> magnetron: i thiiiiiiiink elinks does but i am not 100%. i would go through all the ones i have installed and let you know, but i am feeling fairly lazy.
[08:58] <trogdor> magnetron: there is w3m and links original too
[08:58] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, it can, but it is more specific thatn just an open call
[08:58] <undoy> need help why my windows xp machine cant see the share folder?
[08:58] <moose> I SAW IN WEBSITE EMERGE WORLD. I USE EMERGE WORLD IN TERMINAL BUT DOENS'T WORK. why is this?
[08:58] <[chr0n0s] > riotkittie : thanks.. i think that will do, will check when i get my hard drive back
[08:58] <LordLimecat> Irreducibilis: thanks, except i wouldnt be in #ubuntu if i dint want to use ubuntu linux
[08:58] <trogdor> magnetron: think dillo might have a cli option
[08:59] <Flannel> !ops | moose
[08:59] <ubotu> moose: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[08:59] <[chr0n0s] > undoy : you got smaba installed ?
[08:59] <Flannel> LordLimecat: you might be interested in that link as well.
[08:59] <undoy> share folder can be seen by other linux pc
[08:59] <[chr0n0s] > undoy : i suggest use ssh, simpler
[08:59] <riotkittie> for the love of god, i wish people would stop trolling.
[08:59] <Irreducibilis> I wish trolls would stop ogreing too.
[08:59] <undoy> yes samba installed
[08:59] <tkooda> anyone got any guess why I still get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" after using `apt-ftparchive` (made Packages{,.bz2,.gz} and Release{,.gpg} files; and have signing key in `apt-key list`) to make a simple apt source?  -it's like it's seeing (and fetching) my gpg, but ignoring it??
[08:59] <Agent_bob> drewbenn what file are you trying to execute ?
[09:00] <LordLimecat> Flannel: im not clear on how this is relevant?
[09:00] <Agent_bob> riotkittie not gonna happen tho.
[09:00] <Flannel> LordLimecat: it opens the thing as if he were opening it via gnome, just like he's asking to accomplish.
[09:00] <Amaranth> tkooda: you have to use apt-key to add your key
[09:00] <tkooda> it sees the Package.gz and the Release, but dosn't seem to match the key
[09:00] <app_> Boy this Ubuntu is difficult for a Windows person!
[09:00] <LordLimecat> ah....but im trying to install a driver?
[09:00] <tkooda> Amaranth, the key IS in my `apt-key list`
[09:00] <drewbenn> Flannel thanks, that is what I was looking for!   mjbrooks yes, I know :) I'm looking for a generic, 'open anything as if I double-clicked it, without knowing the location of the program'   Agent_bob: "anything"
[09:00] <jroyer> just for the record, links2 seems to have a support for Javascript but not so great: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37036
[09:00] <Amaranth> tkooda: oh, you said that
[09:00] <riotkittie> Agent_bob: i know, i know
[09:00] <Amaranth> tkooda: dunno then
[09:00] <tkooda> yah
[09:00] <Agent_bob> tkooda you don't have the gpg key for that repo
[09:01] <Irreducibilis> app_: I agree....
[09:01] <undoy> ok ill try ssh, tyvm
[09:01] <riotkittie> app_: you will get the hang of it eventually, if you are patient  ;)
[09:01] <tkooda> Agent_bob, `gpg --gen-key && --export --armor`
[09:01] <Agent_bob> drewbenn i told you that,    ./filename
[09:01] <[chr0n0s] > new ubuntu will be available as torrent download .. i hope
[09:01] <Irreducibilis> Especially when one is like me, who uses windows more than linux, and having to remember the procedures for both
[09:01] <Flannel> LordLimecat: Sorry, maybe I misread something and you're not the one who was talking with him
[09:01] <trogdor> drewbenn: sometimes you need execution privileges so do chmod +x program
[09:01] <tkooda> Agent_bob, I don't think that's the case?  -how can I confirm?
[09:01] <riotkittie> partitioning makes me a sad panda. D:
[09:02] <LordLimecat> incidentally, Irreducibilis, its not that windows is easier, its that due to shady practices, drivers have become closed, and hard to maintain.  Their performance has suffered, and hence i have to live on the bleeding edge to get decent performance out of my graphics card.  Using windows would be a slap in the face, since 95% of my woes in ubuntu have been caused by windows practices
[09:02] <drewbenn> Aget_bob... yes, that works for executables... I want to open, for example, a .txt file in the default Gnome text editor.  gnome-open (as I just learned) did that.
[09:02] <Agent_bob> tkooda the error message in apt's output  should confirm it.
[09:02] <LordLimecat> but thank you for suggesting i use windows in a linux chat, go troll somewhere else please
[09:02] <Avariel> quick question...will i have to reinstall linux if i want to use 7.10 ? i currently have feisty 7.4
[09:02] <mjbrooks> fsck windows and their lousy drivers
[09:02] <Avariel> ubuntu i mean*
[09:02] <Flannel> Avariel: no.  you're able to upgrade
[09:02] <[chr0n0s] > Avariel : you can upgrade
[09:03] <[chr0n0s] > !upgrade | Avariel
[09:03] <ubotu> Avariel: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:03] <Agent_bob> drewbenn see that's the problem.   you say one thing but mean another.    gedit /path/to/blah
[09:03] <Avariel> so its just like a system update from the package manager ?
[09:03] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Not quite trolling, I am merely trying to find a balence.
[09:03] <drewbenn> Avariel, on Thursday, 7.10 should appear automagically in your update program
[09:03] <Flannel> Avariel: sorta yeah.
[09:03] <Avariel> awesome
[09:03] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Rather than taking one side, black or white, light or dark, I prefer to see things in shades of grey and arbitrate as a neutral user who uses both.
[09:03] <[chr0n0s] > Avariel : this is ubuntu. it is awesome ;)
[09:03] <LordLimecat> well, so far ive only seen you bash ubuntu, its components, and suggest windows, and thats not really helpful.  I would call that trolling
[09:04] <LordLimecat> regardless, its off topic, and if you dont have advice, telling me a component sucks is just chatter
[09:04] <Aviel> hey all
[09:04] <Irreducibilis> LordLimecat: Don't get me wrong, Ubuntu has a lot of advantages over windows, I will admit...
[09:04] <Aviel> i need help plz
[09:04] <Agent_bob> drewbenn if not in a gui  the text based editor is  nano
[09:04] <alpha>  Hello - Where is wallpaper folder ubuntu gnome?
[09:04] <drewbenn> Agent_bob yes, I know, I couldn't figure out how to say it properly: I wanted a generic program that opens _any_ file, "as if I double-clicked it" -- e.g. a .txt file opens with 'gedit', a .pdf opens with whatever/is/the/path/to/acrobat, an .htm opens with /whatever/is/the/path/to/firefox, etc.
[09:04] <tkooda> Agent_bob, the error message is just "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! ... Install these packages without verification [y/N] "..  there is only the single key in the keyring..  I exported via `gpg --export --armor` and imported via `apt-key add - < file.gpg`, and `apt-key list` shows* the key in there??
[09:04] <Aviel> can some 1 help me with my server?
[09:04] <Avariel> see i think if it was easy/automatic to install drivers then windows would be screwed with the opensource linux
[09:05] <Flannel> !ask | Aviel
[09:05] <ubotu> Aviel: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:05] <Aviel> ok
[09:05] <Aviel> hmm
[09:05] <[chr0n0s] > Avariel : i think driver install are much better than old days
[09:05] <drewbenn> Avariel I agree, I still haven't gotten my wireless working!! linux is more difficult, but has different payoffs than unix....
[09:05] <drewbenn> err, "than windows," even
[09:05] <Agent_bob> drewbenn run-mailcap blah  would be about as close as you get....   you are asking the terminal to do what several applications are doing within the gui    not likely to happen.
[09:05] <[chr0n0s] > drewbenn : which wireless cards ?
[09:06] <Aviel> i have here AMD64 Server and i install linux and it not reconize my network driver
[09:06] <Flannel> Agent_bob: It exists, thats what hes trying to tell you.  It's called gnome-open
[09:06] <Avariel> yeah i screwed it up when i tried installing my graphics card
[09:06] <tkooda> Agent_bob, do I need to do anything aside from `gpg --gen-key && gpg --export --armor |apt-key add -` to get the archive key in my keyring?
[09:06] <alpha> Where is desktop wallpaper folder in ubutu?
[09:06] <Avariel> had to reinstall linux
[09:06] <Agent_bob> drewbenn i "might" be able to write a script that would do that.  but i see no reason to.
[09:06] <Aviel> supermicro server
[09:06] <Avariel> my screen suddenly went black when i switched the resolution and it never came back !
[09:06] <drewbenn> ipw3945 on 7.04 feisty, everyone says "it should just work," and i've tried just about every thread under the sun on ubuntu-forums, still no joy :(
[09:06] <Aviel> ?