[21:52] <DasEi> Breathoffire: mount                       where is it mounted ?
[21:52] <Polah> templet, yes it does.
[21:52] <templet> thanks Polah
[21:52] <fellayaboy> eiriksvin...wow glad i didnt upgrade
[21:53] <eiriksvin> I used classic up until last night
[21:53] <qin> Is it day of Happy Misspel?
[21:53] <Breathoffire> DasEi : I don't know lol
[21:53] <javier_> Hi! in ubuntu 11.10 I've a problem with Acrobat reader. If I minimize the window, I can't find it any more in unity's launchers. Someone knows how to fix it? Maybe an open source alternative to acrobat reader?
[21:53] <DasEi> Breathoffire: enter mount in terminal and you'll see..
[21:53] <span89> Thanks to everyone who tried to help! I got my wireless working. The solution was to uninstall bcmwl-kernel-source - every guide I read said I needed it to be installed, but I found it odd that you'd have STA drivers and Legacy drivers installed on top of one another. Huzzah! Thanks #ubuntu support!
[21:54] <vacho> why didn't my ubuntu come with java preintalled?
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> javier_: try evince
[21:54] <DasEi> !yay | span89
[21:54] <eSoul> right on span89
[21:54] <span89> ActionParsnip, `Yahoo, eSoul, avn-matt: Thanks.
[21:54] <DasEi> vacho: legal reasons
[21:54] <vacho> DasEi: kk.
[21:55] <DasEi> Breathoffire: mount                       where is it mounted ?
[21:55] <fellayaboy> eikisvin classic mode is so much better in my opinion..u have to scroll through alot of garbage just to find what u want..in classic just put the icon up on the panel and viola. one click runs the program
[21:55] <Breathoffire> DasEi : It's pretty long and i don't wanna flood, can i paste it to you in a private message?
[21:55] <javier_> MonkeyDust: do you like Evince? isn't it too simple? I use to like okular, but in gnome, I don't like that much evince
[21:55] <DasEi> Breathoffire: nope, we can go another way
[21:55] <DasEi> Breathoffire: cd
[21:56] <jellow> can I drop a script in /etc/init.d that will execute startx so as to get rid of gdm ?
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> javier_: i've never used acrobat, jut know it's for pdf
[21:56] <DasEi> Breathoffire: close allpossible open windowsof the usb if any
[21:56] <HorizonXP> eSoul: yeah, i'm hoping to have it all seamlessly done
[21:56] <DasEi> Breathoffire: fdisk -l    , which dev is it ? sdb1 ?
[21:57] <brandonc503> how can i see the read write permissions on a file in ubuntu.. i only see owner and group
[21:57] <DasEi> Breathoffire: sudo fdisk -l ,oc
[21:57] <DasEi> brandonc503: ls -ls
[21:57] <DasEi> ls -la*
[21:58] <javier_> how to set an application as default one to open a file?
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> javier_: click on the file, properties, open with
[21:58] <DasEi> javier_: left click the file > properties > open with
[21:58] <Breathoffire> DasEi : Nothing comes up when i do a fdisk -l
[21:58] <DasEi> Breathoffire: sudo fdisk -l ,oc
[21:59] <javier_> ok, thanks
[21:59] <Breathoffire> DasEi : Nothing comes up for that either
[21:59] <DasEi> Breathoffire: sudo fdisk -l ,l=lower L
[21:59] <antnash> Alright guys. I hav a problem with the alternate live disk. It doesn't recognise my wireless keyboard. Is there any way I can get it to boot straight in to a live session?
[22:00] <heelguru> I have a supplementary question to javier's: I use a specialised  statistical software which saves data to a dta file. However, if I try and select the software for the main file it fails as it will try to open all files
[22:00] <javier_> another problem: in unity, some times I open an aplication that is fixed there (I always see the launcher). But it won't open on the same icon, it will appear a new icon (repeated) at the bottom of the list. It happens with my folder, with terminal....
[22:00] <DasEi> antnash: no, alternate has no live, need the desktop version for that
[22:00] <heelguru> With it.
[22:00] <Breathoffire> DasEi : it's sdb1
[22:00] <span89> How-to: Disable keyring in 11.10?
[22:00] <templet> what types of businesses deploy 10.04 LTS in their office environments ?
[22:00] <DasEi> Breathoffire: :),  sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[22:00] <DasEi> templet: various, and more a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:01] <antnash> DasEi, my problem is that I want to install on to existing LVM partitions. Any way?
[22:01] <templet> tried that, no problem.  sorry for the bother.
[22:01] <DasEi> antnash: use a recognized keyboard
[22:02] <antnash> balls.
[22:02] <arthur> Does anyone have an alternative to gpodder for podcasts that require password? I'm using ubuntu 11.04.
[22:02] <DasEi> Breathoffire: unmounted ?
[22:02] <Breathoffire> DasEi : I think so, yes..it didn't say anything
[22:02] <DasEi> Breathoffire: sudo mkdir /media/usbFlash
[22:03] <DasEi> Breathoffire: sudo chown -R $USER /media/usbFlash
[22:03] <DasEi> Breathoffire: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbFlash
[22:03] <rahduke> so after upgrading to 11.10 I had some music library issue in banshee, i fixed the issues i was having now my library works, however my Music Lens in Unity is now missing almost all my music. Is there a way for Unity to rescan or re-index my music folders???
[22:03] <DasEi> happy copying
[22:03] <Breathoffire> DasEi : Done.
[22:03] <DasEi> happy copying
[22:04]  * Breathoffire tries
[22:04] <Breathoffire> DasEi : I still get permission denied :/
[22:04] <javier_> Hi!  in unity, some times I open an aplication that is fixed there (I always see the launcher). But it won't open on the same icon, it will appear a new icon (repeated) at the bottom of the list. It happens with my folder, with terminal.... Any idea?
[22:04] <DasEi> Breathoffire: sudo chown -R $USER /media/usbFlash
[22:05] <StepNjump> Can anyone help me? I have two ubuntu installations on this computer on two separate partitions. I would like to delete the second installation and update the grub so that I can reboot properly afterwards. - I already tried to delete everything on second partition (install) and ran update-grub afterwards. It still detects the second installation. Why?
[22:06] <Breathoffire> DasEi : I did that..still permission denied :/
[22:06] <DasEi> StepNjump: seperate /boot partition with images still there ?
[22:06] <Breathoffire> DasEi : Let me stat over...i'll try again
[22:06] <phiscribe> is WINE and playonlinux redundant?
[22:07] <StepNjump> DasEi.. how do I check that?
[22:07] <DasEi> Breathoffire: then try with your username like :
[22:07] <StepNjump> with fdisk -l?
[22:07] <rahduke>  so after upgrading to 11.10 I had some music library issue in banshee, i fixed the issues i was having now my library works, however my Music Lens in Unity is now missing almost all my music. Is there a way for Unity to rescan or re-index my music folders???
[22:07] <Polah> Philosoraptor, PlayOnLinux is a frontend for wine
[22:07] <DasEi> Breathoffire: sudo chown -R Breathoffire /media/usbFlash
[22:07] <Breathoffire> DasEi : Ok
[22:07] <DasEi> StepNjump: that or df -h
[22:07] <StepNjump> let me check
[22:08] <Rods_Tiger> There's no longer any way to shut down the computer - the options to switch off or restart are no longer in the list. It's just 'lock screen'; 'suspend' and 'hibernate'.
[22:09] <antnash> DasEi, should the alternate install text parts work with a wireless keyboard?
[22:09] <DasEi> StepNjump: idk how you installed, it's also possible that two installations shared one /boot with the old images still in, if you run sudo update-grub you'll see which init-rd's are detectedd
[22:09] <Reaper> is ubuntu one not working?
[22:09] <Demonicpagan> i'm upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 and when it got to installing grub-pc i was presented with writing grub to boot device failed - continue? and the warning under the terminal details says Attempting to install grub to a partitionless disk or to a partition. this is a bad idea..
[22:10] <DasEi> antnash: depends on model, I'd say
[22:10] <HorizonXP> eSoul: Doesn't look like the remote machine supports SCP!
[22:11] <StepNjump> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/713688/
[22:11] <DasEi> Demonicpagan: is there a reason you don't want grub in mbr ? if so, ignore the warning, but you need an mbr chainloading to your /boot then
[22:11] <Demonicpagan> my partitions are /dev/sdb5 as an ext2 fs mounted to /boot, /dev/sdb6 as my linux-swap, /dev/sdb7 as an ext4 fs mounted to /, and /dev/sdb8 as an ext4 fs mounted to /home
[22:12] <blsh0p> you guys know how in ubuntu 11.04, whenever you plugged in a flashdrive or harddrive, an icon appeared in the desktop? How do you get that back in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:12] <Demonicpagan> it's a dual boot win7 ubuntu
[22:12] <Demonicpagan> would prefer win7 to have control of mbr
[22:12] <DasEi> StepNjump: one would have to estimate the size, why not find out which partitions are now in use and simply format the rest ?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> blsh0p: it will add an item in nautilus you can use in the meantime
[22:13] <MonkeyDust> blsh0p: install advanced settings, where you can find Desktop
[22:13] <StepNjump> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/713691/
[22:13] <Demonicpagan> though i am stumpped at the fact that i am installing ubuntu on a separate hdd
[22:13] <Demonicpagan> dunno why i'm even running into this
[22:13] <blsh0p> ok thanks guys
[22:13] <Demonicpagan> shouldn't i have 2 separate mbrs?
[22:14] <StepNjump> DasEi: I installed the second installation so it would repair my grub so i could boot up. Otherwise, I get Grub rescue>
[22:14] <DasEi> Demonicpagan: I'd go other way round, but you can ask in #windows on how to to chainload to a partition, as I don't know it
[22:14] <tajmapaw> anyone here using an hp pavilion dm4? I am having trouble with my trackpad and I can;t seem to find any help online
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> blsh0p: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/unity-2d-tweak-app-updated-for-11-10   may help
[22:14] <Demonicpagan> well, when i first installed 11.04, i thought it would have overwrote teh mbr and installed grub anyway
[22:15] <DasEi> StepNjump: which OS you want to use, 11.04 and win 7 ?
[22:15] <wunnle> hey there
[22:15] <Demonicpagan> it did the last time i installed, but i had to pull my linux install and reset the mbr to windows
[22:16] <DasEi> Demonicpagan: you decide at installation, and for usual grub2 detects a win install and integrates in it's menu
[22:16] <Demonicpagan> i was not given the option at install
[22:16] <DasEi> Demonicpagan: usual way install win, then grub to mbr (os-prober will integrate it)
[22:16] <LostyJai> hey guys, i have an ethernet alias (eth1:1)
[22:17] <LostyJai> how do i remove it? ifdown doesn't work
[22:17] <AceTheDragon> Hello, can i ask a question?
[22:17] <LostyJai> so I assume it's not the right command
[22:17] <DasEi> !ask | AceTheDragon
[22:17] <wunnle> it's my first time on ubuntu. i want to add a gmail notifier to messaging menu. do i need additional software or can ubuntu make that?
[22:17] <AceTheDragon> How do i reinstall my graphs drivers?
[22:17] <Demonicpagan> when i do the install of 11.04, i don't chose the install alongside of win7, i choose the last option
[22:18] <DasEi> AceTheDragon: which g-card
[22:18] <rahduke> why cant i use my scroll wheel to fast forward videos in mpayer and movie player in 11.10???
[22:18] <AceTheDragon> I dont know, i'm having an issue with a program and i was advised to come here and ask that question.
[22:18] <veovis_muaddib> wunnle: Yes.  Look at the mail icon in the top right corner, click it, and choose the option to let you set up an email account
[22:18] <StepNjump> Yes DasEi: That's exactly right!
[22:18] <nathanel> hello amigos! i am having an issue with ubuntu 11.10 on pandaboard
[22:18] <nathanel> which channel do i go to for omap stuff?
[22:18] <veovis_muaddib> wunnle: I'm not in Ubuntu right now to tell you exactly where that it
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> rahduke: ask 'how' rather than 'why'
[22:18] <veovis_muaddib> is
[22:19] <rahduke> MonkeyDust: either help me or keep your mouth shut
[22:19] <veovis_muaddib> rahduke: Behave when people are giving you free help
[22:19] <StepNjump> DasEi: I'm sorry.. I need to run. I will be late. I wish I could have spoken to you more. I will keep an eye out for you the next time. I really need to go. I appologize. I hadn't realized it was so late already. Thanks for your help.
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> !attitude rahduke
[22:19] <DasEi> Demonicpagan: as I got you, you first had win 7, then installed ubuntu, and that grub you should have let written to mbr, so there would be an option for win in it
[22:19] <wunnle> veovis_muaddib, i can see where is it (: but it is linked to thunderbird and i want to use just gmail.
[22:19] <DasEi> StepNjump: I'm not the only one ;)
[22:20] <nathanel> hello amigos! i am having an issue with ubuntu 11.10 on pandaboard..which channel do i refer to?
[22:20] <rahduke> veovis_muaddib: I've been sitting in this chan for 2 days waiting for "free help" none has come, thats the first response I've gotten in 2 days
[22:20] <rahduke> this channel used to be helpful and useful, now its garbage
[22:20] <veovis_muaddib> rahduke: Your question sounds more like a complaint about something that is impossible, I personally didn't know you wanted to know how to do that.
[22:20] <AceTheDragon> I dont know, i'm having an issue with a program and i was advised to come here and ask that question.
[22:21] <rahduke> veovis_muaddib: how bout my multiple other help questions that are ignored over and over
[22:21] <rahduke> all written politely
[22:21] <DasEi> !who | AceTheDragon
[22:21] <brandonc503> hy all.. i installed lamp and works fine, but i extracted a 3rd party cart files into my /var/www and owner is brandon, name of my login.. what should they idealy be?
[22:21] <rahduke> o after upgrading to 11.10 I had some music library issue in banshee, i fixed the issues i was having now my library works, however my Music Lens in Unity is now missing almost all my music. Is there a way for Unity to rescan or re-index my music folders???
[22:21] <veovis_muaddib> wunnle: If you set up thunderbird, you can have it notify you, and use the gmail page.  As far as JUST a gmail notification, I'm not sure what the options are for gnome, but I used a KDE tray applet for awhile.
[22:21] <RyuGuns> rahduke: Sometimes people just don't have the answers.
[22:21] <RyuGuns> :)
[22:22] <AceTheDragon> !DasEi I dont know, i'm having an issue with a program and i was advised to come here and ask that question.
[22:22] <Demonicpagan> DasEi, any idea where i may have gone wrong in updating the mbr on my initial intall?
[22:22] <veovis_muaddib> rahduke: I just got in here first time in months, so I don't know.  But I do know that if I don't know the answer, I don't respond with anything, in case I mislead others into thinking it's not possible to fix or something.  I assume others do that as well.
[22:23] <wunnle> veovis_muaddib, thank you!
[22:23] <veovis_muaddib> wunnle: No problem
[22:23] <DasEi> Demonicpagan: seem like you told the installer not to install to mbr , but to a partition, and it even warned you
[22:23] <DasEi> AceTheDragon:open a terminal
[22:23] <rahduke> veovis_muaddib: well  rather than helping monkeydust decided to chirp in with a snide comment, thats why i wrote something rude
[22:23] <nathanel> hello amigos! i am having an issue with ubuntu 11.10 on pandaboard..which channel do i refer to?
[22:23] <nathanel> hello amigos! i am having an issue with ubuntu 11.10 on pandaboard..which channel do i refer to?
[22:24] <DasEi> AceTheDragon:sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[22:24] <veovis_muaddib> rahduke: I didn't see it as snide.  I saw it as him not knowing the answer but knowing that if you reworded it, others might.  But I'm here to help others and ask about something myself, no interest in continuing this.
[22:24] <Demonicpagan> DasEi, when i did my initial install of ubuntu, i was never warned that grub was being installed to a partition
[22:24] <DasEi> AceTheDragon:sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:25] <DasEi> Demonicpagan: so when did this above reprted warning occured ?
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> rahduke: i don't know your level, so maybe you did not know how to put a question, newbies alsways start with 'why', that's why i thought you were a newbie
[22:25] <rahduke> veovis_muaddib: i saw it as snide, and im entitled to my interpretation. Whats your question I'll help you
[22:25] <Demonicpagan> during the upgrade of 11.04 -> 11.10
[22:25] <DasEi> AceTheDragon:sudo hwinfo | grep display | pastebinit
[22:25] <rahduke> MonkeyDust: n00b??  I've been on Ubuntu since 6.10
[22:25] <DasEi> AceTheDragon: last cmd will take a second, give resulting url here
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> rahduke: i don't know that, do i
[22:26] <PineappleClock> is there any help for proftpd? or is that in another channel
[22:26] <julie101010> Demonicpagan, consider using boot-repair
[22:26] <rahduke> MonkeyDust: dont care don't care don't chirp in with grammatical corrections this isnt english 101
[22:26] <imachine> hello
[22:26] <DasEi> PineappleClock: just ask the real q, and there is #ubuntu-server, too
[22:26] <stercor> Is there a program that allows me to change a web page that's on Firefox and see the results?
[22:26] <imachine> i have an issue updating from 11.04 to 11.10
[22:26] <imachine> anyone can help me?
[22:26] <rahduke> imachine: whats the issue?
[22:27] <imachine> i checked the apt logs but can't seem to find the reason for it failing.
[22:27] <veovis_muaddib> After upgrading to 11.10:  The login screen shows up, but upon attempted login, shows a probably 320x480 or so virtual terminal.  Session was set to gnome or unity or whatever it was called, and control-alt-F* blanked the screen.  So I reinstalled, and now there isn't even a login screen.
[22:27] <JustinStewart> this entire conversation is why i'm saving up for a mac
[22:27] <JustinStewart> goodbye
[22:27] <YawningAngel> Could someone with only ubuntu installed pastebin me their grub.cfg please?
[22:27] <imachine> rahduke, i suppose it's because I've used backports and proposed repos on 11.04
[22:27] <imachine> rahduke, and now some packages are causing conflicts.
[22:27] <DasEi> stercor: I'm notshure if I get you right, there is tamper-data, an addon or html suites like w3m or kompozer
[22:27] <Rods_Tiger> There's no longer any way to shut down the computer - the options to switch off or restart are no longer in the list. It's just 'lock screen'; 'suspend' and 'hibernate'.
[22:27] <rahduke> veovis_muaddib: have you tried wiping and fresh install
[22:27] <imachine> rahduke, ideally, I'd "wipe" my packages (downgrade them to the best currently available source via the internets)
[22:27] <Demonicpagan> well, right now, i'm at a loss on how to go about continuing past this grub-pc issue, do i continue or not is the question being asked by the updater
[22:27] <tajmapaw> hey, i need some help with my trackpad, its an AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint (on an hp pavilion dm4)
[22:28] <rahduke> ? or is that a non starter
[22:28] <imachine> rahduke, that way I'd get stable and security updates, because I've disabled backports and proposed repos.
[22:28] <veovis_muaddib> rahduke: Yeah, that's what causes no video at all.  I should note that it's through VGA
[22:28] <stercor> DasEi: I'll try tamper-data.
[22:28] <imachine> rahduke, any ideas how I could go on about doing that ?
[22:28] <DasEi> YawningAngel: second, launching a single vm
[22:29] <rahduke> imachine: during your upgrade didnt the installer give you the option to disable old repos?
[22:29] <imachine> rahduke, it did, but the installed packages seem to cause conflicts.
[22:29] <imachine> rahduke, at least, that's what the error message tells me.
[22:29] <rahduke> veovis_muaddib: are you using onboard graphics?
[22:29] <stercor> DasEi: I would use it to learn CSS and Javascript.
[22:29] <veovis_muaddib> rahduke: Yeah, some sort of nvidia onboard
[22:29] <imachine> rahduke, maybe I could also resolve those issues manually, but for sanity's sake, I'd like the first option that I've proposed to become reality ;)
[22:29] <PineappleClock> is there any way to add an arbitrary directory to proftpd.conf, so I can access a/b and c/d
[22:29] <rahduke> imachine: did you reconfigure dkpg?
[22:29] <julie101010> Demonicpagan, it doesn't matter... all that counts is that you boot in the computer (could be with a usb key, cd or hd) and run the boot-repair on ubuntu...  it does everything automatically
[22:29] <imachine> rahduke, well, no, but... should I really?
[22:30] <imachine> rahduke, like, dpkg --configure -all ?
[22:30] <DasEi> stercor: so what you need more is an editor then, tamper-data is still nice though
[22:30] <veovis_muaddib> rahduke: No access to a video card, it's being RMA'd and probably wouldn't fit this machine.
[22:30] <DasEi> !pm | YawningAngel
[22:30] <Layke> Since I upgraded to 11.10, I haven't been able to run flash.
[22:30] <imachine> or -a
[22:30] <rahduke> imachine: ive had repo issues before and dkpg reconfigure fixed it, i forget the command but Im sure google can help
[22:30] <YawningAngel> My apologies DasEi
[22:30] <Layke> How can I actually get flash back up. I've tried downloading the package from Adobe, with no luck.
[22:30] <imachine> rahduke, yeah, that's not it I'm afraid.
[22:30] <imachine> rahduke, no packages get installed.
[22:30] <YawningAngel> Channel is a bit cluttered and I'm on quite a small screen, it's hard for me to follow it
[22:30] <imachine> but I'll check it out..
[22:31] <imachine> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:31] <imachine> that's what I did ;)
[22:31] <veovis_muaddib> YawningAngel: Perhaps you can remove join/parts in your irc client, that might help a little bit
[22:31] <imachine> but it's not it' the system works, and I suppose it could be just the old repos.
[22:31] <DasEi> !flash | Layke
[22:31] <PineappleClock> is there an easier to configure FTP daemon than proftpd ?
[22:31] <imachine> rahduke, so, if I could downgrade my packages to currently available internet repo versions, even if they're lower versions than the ones installed.
[22:31] <imachine> rahduke, that'd be the best solution.
[22:31] <cajunmlle> vsftpd
[22:32] <xiphias> hm
[22:32] <Fudge> hi anyone know the ppa for lucid for mozilla-stable
[22:32] <DasEi> Layke: you can just install ubuntu-restricted-extras and get a bunch of other needed codecs, too, make sure you removed any old stuff first
[22:32] <xiphias> the ubuntu repos do not have some of the boost libraries
[22:32] <xiphias> e.g. timer
[22:32] <DasEi> Fudge: google repogen.ch ;)
[22:33] <Demonicpagan> this is what i'm presented with in the terminal when i got to the upgrade of GRUB when upgrading from ubuntu 11.04 to 11.07: http://paste2.org/p/1727937
[22:33] <rahduke> imachine: yea thats what i was thinking, im really not sure.... i'd suggest a format and re-install, im sure thats not the solution your looking for but when your repo's are screwed and your messing with backports even if you are able to restore the OS to the point where it functions it will most likely still be messed up in one way or another
[22:33] <killbam> Hey, the new Ubuntu eLearning course... anybody here taken it or knows about it more?
[22:34] <imachine> rahduke, because of installs?
[22:34] <imachine> rahduke, well, I've brought back to life a box which got shut off during an upgrade ;)
[22:34] <imachine> so hehe
[22:34] <imachine> I guess all is well and possible :-P
[22:34] <imachine> just needs time ;)
[22:34] <teadict> who wants to solve my bridged windows xp virtualbox machine not find the bridge problem?
[22:34] <imachine> (did it just today ;P)
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> teadict: did you install the guest additions?
[22:35] <YawningAngel> DasEi would you be so kind as to ping me when your VM starts up? Can't pay my full attention to the channel and I don't want to miss it
[22:35] <WalkFar> If someone would be willing to help me out, I'm having problems installing Sun java, which I need for a game. If you can help me, please private chat :D
[22:35] <Demonicpagan> i'm more than happy to kill this upgrade by shuttin down the system, formatting my paritions through windows and starting over with installing 11.04
[22:35] <brandonc503> can i have multiple domains going to seperate folders on my lamp ?
[22:35] <teadict> ActionParsnip: yes
[22:35] <tajmapaw> hey, i need some help with my trackpad, its an AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint (on an hp pavilion dm4)
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> WalkFar: download the .run file and mark it as executable, copy it to /opt and run it with sudo
[22:35] <DasEi> YawningAngel: yes, got the look fsk just spun up, sry
[22:35] <killbam> brandonc503: yes you can
[22:35] <DasEi> luck*
[22:35] <cajunmlle> Demonicpagan windows format doesn;t erase anything
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> WalkFar: then copy the plugin .so file to your browsers plugins folder
[22:36] <Demonicpagan> sould when i delete the parition
[22:36] <brandonc503> cool.. what am i googleing to find out how to set up multiple domains on one lamp?
[22:36] <YawningAngel> NP man, not your fault and you're helping me :P
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> teadict: have you tried the different network interfaces in the virtualbox setup?
[22:36] <YawningAngel> Just need to focus on this
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> WalkFar: simple stuff
[22:36] <PineappleClock> wow this UbuntuBootupHowTo is greek.. how do I uninstall a proftpd daemon, do I delete it's entry in /etc/init.d ?
[22:36] <Balgan> teadict which software are u using for virtualization
[22:36] <amine> helllo
[22:36] <Balgan> vmware?
[22:37] <amine> hello my backtrack could'nt take updates
[22:37] <amine> !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:37] <killbam> Take a look at setting up virtual servers
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> amine: backtrack isnt supported here
[22:37] <veovis_muaddib> ActionParsnip: After upgrading to 11.10:  The login screen shows up, but upon attempted login, shows a probably 320x480 or so virtual terminal.  Session was set to gnome or unity or whatever it was called, and control-alt-F* blanked the screen.  So I reinstalled, and now there isn't even a login screen.
[22:37] <Demonicpagan> what i'm going for and how i set it up originally i don't remember, i have 2 hdd in my laptop, 1 hdd is windows only, other hdd is part storage and rest ubuntu
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> !backtrack | amine
[22:37] <DasEi> amine: wrong chan #backtrack
[22:37] <amine> ok im very sorry
[22:37] <killbam> brandonc503, actually "virtual hosts"
[22:37] <varikonniemi> so, 11.10 made the sound slider not working, it will mute/unmute, make it so faint u can almost not hear it, or then full volume. Is there some workaround for this?
[22:38] <poolie> is it a known bug that oneiric doesn't shut down when requested - it just goes back to the lightdm screen
[22:38] <amine> please can you give me a server that takes backtrack !!!
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> veovis_muaddib: are you using a virtual system?
[22:38] <Demonicpagan> i have no problems completely reformatting the entire 2nd hdd has i have nothign on it of importance (yet)
[22:38] <veovis_muaddib> ActionParsnip: Nope, real hardware
[22:38] <DasEi> amine: see above #backtrack-linux
[22:38] <Balgan> amine if u r not being able to update ur backtrack perhaps u shouldnt be using it just yet ? :)
[22:38] <Demonicpagan> just need somethign to assistt me in properly setting up the dual boot over 2 hdd
[22:38] <amine> ok thank you or this information ;)
[22:39] <Deithrian> How can i turn NumLock to be on on boot in Xubuntu 11.10, there seems to be no /etc/gdm/ folder and the "Enabling NumLock from startx" doesn't work?
[22:39] <PineappleClock> how do I remove a service in ubuntu? (proftpd)
[22:39] <dr_willis> Deithrian: it may be ysing lightdm instead of gdm
[22:39] <killbam> Deithrian, maybe try your BIOS?
[22:40] <cajunmlle> Demonicpagan, chances are you could just use your bios to select dual booting from, most of them allow you to select boot drive
[22:40] <killbam> PineappleClock: can you uninstall it using the software center?
[22:40] <killbam> If not, might want to try sudo apt-get uninstall
[22:40] <Deithrian> dr_willis, is there a way to do it in lightdm?
[22:40] <Layke> DasEi, Couldn't get flash installed at all, but then I removed it using Synaptic, and then installed again and it works now. Cheers.
[22:40] <Demonicpagan> nah, not possible
[22:40] <killbam> good to know
[22:40] <dr_willis> PineappleClock: edit or rename the file in /etc/init
[22:40] <Deithrian> killbam, my numlock key is on in the bios but it turns off as soon as Xubuntu starts
[22:41] <cajunmlle> which bios do you have?
[22:41] <dr_willis> Deithrian: no idea
[22:41] <Demonicpagan> and i really don't remember how i initially did this when i did my first install of ubuntu
[22:41] <Zungete> hi, idea why ubuntu freezes? it happens in single mode and in normal mode, WHY?
[22:41] <Deithrian> dr_willis, ok thanks
[22:41] <PineappleClock> dr_willis: etc/init, not etc/init.d ?
[22:42] <Programmer_> whats a good cd burner
[22:42] <YawningAngel> dd
[22:42] <Emceee> I use imgburn thru wine
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> veovis_muaddib: what GPU do you use
[22:42] <cajunmlle> Programmer, I like my plextor
[22:42] <Zungete> Programmer_: brasero?
[22:42] <dr_willis> PineappleClock: one us for the newer upstart. other is for older sysv
[22:42] <Programmer_> brasero?
[22:42] <PineappleClock> dr_willis i dont know what that means
[22:42] <YawningAngel> I've always appreciated dd's silent obedience
[22:42] <Zungete> yea, GNOME's burner
[22:42] <veovis_muaddib> ActionParsnip: nvidia onboard something, I'll see if it says on the motherboard
[22:42] <YawningAngel> Except when it silently and obediently converted one of my hard drives to a music cd
[22:43] <YawningAngel> that kinda sucked
[22:43] <Emceee> Anyone know how to get 'the dash' to stay on top in 11.10?
[22:43] <poolie> Programmer_: yeah, i think that's the default in nautilus
[22:43] <dr_willis> !upstart | PineappleClock
[22:43] <PineappleClock> i'll assume init.d because proftpd isn't in the other
[22:43] <poolie> YawningAngel: don't give out silly advice please
[22:43] <Zungete> hey, idea why ubuntu freezes? it happens in single mode and in normal mode, WHY?
[22:43] <s1> what is it with the hybird graphics!
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> veovis_muaddib: use the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[22:43] <PineappleClock> !thanks | dr_willis
[22:43] <killbam> Emceee, I doubt that it's a built in feature
[22:43] <Zungete> .....
[22:43] <valentin2> hi guys, can anybody tell me how to enable the 2-finger scrolling in ubuntu 11.10?it works fine on opensuse & fedora
[22:43] <YawningAngel> poolie I'm not being silly, I quite genuinely use dd to burn CDs for myself
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Zungete: can you expand on 'freezes' please?
[22:43] <veovis_muaddib> ActionParsnip: Can I set that from a live USB?
[22:44] <tajmapaw> after some searching i think i have come closer to fixing my problem, but i am having trouble understanding it....
[22:44] <DasEi> YawningAngel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/713712/
[22:44] <Emceee> killbam, in the previous version I thought it did.  I remember it acting differently since I upgraded
[22:44] <YawningAngel> You sir are a scholar and a gentleman
[22:44] <DasEi> grub.cfgg of oneiric
[22:44] <cajunmlle> YawningAngel, what syntax do you use for doing that?
[22:44] <dr_willis> !burn
[22:44] <poolie> ah, apparently i'm being silly then :)
[22:44] <tajmapaw> there is a bug report in launchpad, that is describing my problem perfectly, but i am not sure how to tell if this should have been fixed already or not, the bug is at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/550625
[22:44] <poolie> i did not think that would be reliable
[22:44] <YawningAngel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[22:45] <YawningAngel> dd if=/dev/blah of=/dev/blah2
[22:45] <Duelisti> Can I move items in my launcher without removing/adding? (11.10)
[22:45] <Zungete> ActionParsnip: well, it happens in single after executing any command in menu, and after i type any command in shell, and in normal if i don't touch anything and when i login
[22:45] <valentin2> thx ubottu!
[22:45] <Emceee> Anyone know how to get the launcher to show when a window in maximized
[22:45] <YawningAngel> Just be careful because it will MERCILESSLY overwrite the target
[22:45] <Zungete> also if i do try to switch to console in normal it freezes too
[22:46] <dr_willis> id say it not be reliable
[22:46] <Zungete> ActionParsnip
[22:46] <cajunmlle> YawningAngel, you must have a very unusual optical drive for that to actually burn discs
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Zungete: does the desktop completely lock up?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> veovis_muaddib: yes
[22:47] <YawningAngel> cajunmlle are you trying to tell me you DON'T refer to all your sata drives as blah?
[22:47] <poolie> YawningAngel: that's great
[22:47] <YawningAngel> It's wonderfully simple
[22:48] <YawningAngel> Just please pay attention to what you are doing with it
[22:48] <poolie> i had an idea that the userspace program had to do some extra work (maybe timing?) to make the cd burn reliably
[22:48] <dr_willis> id suggest not trying dd or cat or cp. to burn an iso to a disk.
[22:48] <Zungete> ActionParsnip yeah, it looks like that, no input response, also i got locked up one time and i found input has stopped working, and some times display freezes but system still works and sometimes it happened right when i tryed to switch screens
[22:48] <DasEi> blockwise copies, it even works for some installer cd to usb, though got to resync afterward for it to work (dd)
[22:48] <lnbwhit> hello people
[22:48] <YawningAngel> Depends on the application
[22:49] <lnbwhit> looking for some help
[22:49] <YawningAngel> Just straight dd has always worked fine for install discs
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Zungete: when it locks, can you press CTRL+ALT+F1 and get a login prompt?
[22:49] <YawningAngel> Which is all I do it for these days
[22:49] <lnbwhit> anyone interested
[22:49] <lnbwhit> lol
[22:49] <dr_willis> poolie: reliabley is the core issue. :-)
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Zungete: which video chip do you use?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Zungete: is the system fully updated?
[22:49] <DasEi> dr_willis: to opticalno, but for usb is great , works for both, debian and ubuntu
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Zungete: is the RAM healthy?
[22:49] <bindi> hey, I installed blueman and from the notification tray or w/e it is, clicking preferences brings me to "System settings" and  there's no bluetooth there.
[22:50] <cajunmlle> considering that at the time of burning a disc, if needs to include a lead-in and lead-out and toc, all extra info beyond the iso being xfer'd, I'd have to say that a simple "dd" command would get you something completely unusable
[22:50] <DasEi> !ask | inbwhit
[22:50] <YawningAngel> cajunmlle I would agree completely
[22:50] <dr_willis> DasEi: 11.10 was the first ubuntu release you can dd the iso to flash  i belive
[22:50] <YawningAngel> But if all you want is to  put the iso on a disc, dd is quick and easy
[22:50] <lnbwhit> how can I get the normal gui for ubuntu the one that comes standered  for ubuntu 10.10 pls help
[22:50] <YawningAngel> choose it as an option in LDM
[22:51] <Zungete> ActionParsnip 1) no, it locks right after ctrl+alt+f1  2) ati raedon 66250 with prop drivers loaded 3) no, i have 11.04, going to update to 11.10 but not yet, 4) sure
[22:51] <DasEi> dr_willis: I just tried recently, let me boot my lappy again, so I can tell
[22:51] <herbmonk> has anyone else had a problem with the proses firefox-bin not letting firefox close properly IE: I cant bring up my web browser without manually killing the proses each time
[22:52] <cajunmlle> YawningAngel, lacking lead0in lead-out and toc, any drive you insert the burned disc into will reject it in firmware before the host machine ever gets to see the disc
[22:52] <herbmonk> Im using ubuntu 10.04
[22:53] <Zungete> ActionParsnip?
[22:53] <bindi> How can I change bluetooth settings in 11.10 ?? Selecting preferences from the blueman applet icon brings me to "System Settings"!
[22:53] <Dmole> is /etc/samba/smb.conf not used any more? (I don't see shares made with the GUI in there)
[22:53] <bindi> .. had to run blueman-manager
[22:54] <Zungete> umm ActionParsnip??
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> Zungete: not sure, is it better without the proprietary driver
[22:56] <Zungete> idk, but i had seen improved perfomance in unity and compiz
[22:56] <Zungete> it's enabled still, if i can i'ill try to disable it ActionParsnip, i am on windows nnow
[22:57] <Zungete> given up and ran windows....
[22:58] <jfeole> hihi
[22:58] <Zungete> ActionParsnip are you reading? ....
[22:58] <jfeole> I have jus UPG'ed from 11.04
[22:58] <cajunmlle> Zungete, before you give up and go to windows forever, maybe think about a different linux distro?
[22:59] <Zungete> weh, i still have ubuntu
[22:59] <Zungete> so
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> Zungete: worth a try
[22:59] <bkerensa_webchat> Hello so.... I have used Ubuntu for years but I just upgraded to 64bit iso and for some reason xchat is not working at all.... It says connecting to chat.freenode,net but never gets past that step and it does the same no matter what server I try and connect to...
[22:59] <Zungete> i NEVER given up forever
[22:59] <Guest78234> Does anybody here know how to use xsltproc?
[22:59] <Zungete> ActionParsnip, yea, not now -.-
[22:59] <jfeole> what i noticed is the gtk3 theme look bad..washed out..anyone know how to edit?
[22:59] <Zungete> what i can do?
[23:00] <deithrian> Can anyone help please? I tried the suggestion on https://answers.launchpad.net/lightdm/+question/173666 but after reboot NumLock is still Off, i also tried to run the command manually in Terminal and it does work? Any idea why the "greeter-setup-script=/usr/bin/numlockx on" is not working when added to "/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"?
[23:00] <Zungete> and how can i setup locker in root?
[23:00] <cajunmlle> bkerensa_webchat, can you chat with other irc clients?
[23:00] <qin> bkerensa_webchat: irssi?
[23:00] <Zungete> xlock?
[23:00] <Guest78234> deithrian: What's your problem?
[23:00] <bkerensa_webchat> qin: Xchat.... Let me try irrsi
[23:00] <Zungete> should i use xlock for locking in root?
[23:00] <ocelot00> hello
[23:00] <ocelot00> anyone
[23:01] <deithrian> Guest78234 i want NumLock to be on after reboot in Xubuntu 11.10
[23:01] <ocelot00> can someone help me with a problem?
[23:01] <cajunmlle> there are 1600 people who can try
[23:01] <Zungete> ocelot00 what's the problem?
[23:01] <maximus_> deithrian: What's your problem?
[23:01] <maximus_> Does anybody here know how to use xsltproc?
[23:01] <ocelot00> i downloaded minecraft well it seemed it didnt work after a bit of googling i wrote a shell script
[23:01] <Zungete> :O
[23:01] <ocelot00> that makes it work
[23:02] <ocelot00> but i have to run that in terminal
[23:02] <deithrian> maximus_ i want NumLock to be on after reboot in Xubuntu 11.10
[23:02] <bkerensa_webchat> cajunmlle: Nope irssi does not work either... or xchat it gets to connecting and doesnt go any further
[23:02] <bkerensa_webchat> but this is literally a clean instal
[23:02] <maximus_> deithrian: Can you not turn it on?
[23:02] <bkerensa_webchat> OH DARN
[23:02] <ocelot00> well its kinda stupid to open terminal for everything basically im trying to run the script by double clicking
[23:02] <bkerensa_webchat> :(
[23:02] <Zungete> wah doesn't care ocelot00, tired minecraft channels
[23:02] <Zungete> ?
[23:02] <bkerensa_webchat> Forgive me everyone... I forgot
[23:02] <bkerensa_webchat> :(
[23:02] <ocelot00> no its not about minecraft
[23:02] <Zungete> so?
[23:02] <ben_q> evening guys! is it possible to tell vlc to also pass through AAC or mpeg audio streams directly via s/pdif? it works for DTS, but on stereo my soundcard is making noises so I'd prefer my amp to handle that stereo stream, too.
[23:02] <cajunmlle> bkerensa_webchat, aybe it's your fiewall settings blocking port 6667?
[23:02] <ocelot00> i want to start a shellscript by doubleclicking
[23:03] <bkerensa_webchat> my router blocks all ports except 80 for certain ip ranges and I forgot to set a static
[23:03] <bkerensa_webchat> cajunmlle: yep
[23:03] <qin> deithrian: xdotools ?
[23:03] <bkerensa_webchat> ^
[23:03] <Zungete> ocelot00: do a launcher pointing to it
[23:03] <deithrian> maximus_, yes but i don't want to turn it on every time i reboot, and most of the time i forget and that leads to messing up text in documents :/
[23:03] <bkerensa_webchat> LOL
[23:03] <jfeole> i have tried gnome tweak tool, but that isnt helping
[23:03] <maximus_> ocelot00: What are you running?
[23:03] <cajunmlle> bkerensa_webchat, you need port 6667, or else web chat is all you'll ever get
[23:03] <deithrian> qin no idea what that is but i will look in to it i guess.
[23:03] <ocelot00> ubuntu 11.10
[23:03] <ocelot00> i want to make a launcher but it seems i cant?
[23:04] <maximus_> ocelot00: Create a launcher with the custom command.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> ocelot00: is the script marked executable?
[23:04] <ocelot00> i read i just need to right click on desktop to make a launcher
[23:04] <Zungete> Hey, i want to lock the screen in root user, how can i do? should i use xlock for it?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> deithrian: http://pad.lv/835649
[23:04] <qin> deithrian: It will propably work from user crontab at boot.
[23:04] <ocelot00> but i dont see any point to chose launcher
[23:04] <Zungete> how to customize xlock?
[23:04] <ocelot00> yes it is
[23:04] <mocke> Does anyone know if 11.10 will run comfortably on a Toshiba NB100 or not?
[23:04] <ocelot00> the script works
[23:04] <Narc> Hey everyone. Am I the only one to have the message indicator icon to stay gray even when I have unread messages in empathy in Ubuntu 11.10 ? Is it not supposed to turn blue and show the messages in the applet ? I read various bug reports but none of them very clear or helping...
[23:04] <mocke> I can't seem to find any reviews for 11.10 performance on netbooks
[23:05] <Zungete> ....
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> ocelot00: I'd copy the script to somewhere in $PATH and then make a launcher for it
[23:05] <maximus_> ocelot00: 'sudo apt-get install alacarte'
[23:05] <maximus_> ocelot00: Try google before you come.
[23:06] <maximus_> ocelot00: http://blog.mattwoodward.com/how-to-create-a-custom-launcher-in-unity-on-u
[23:06] <Zungete> ActionParsnip, not running ubuntu again now, what i can i do instead?
[23:06] <ocelot00> thanks i will try that
[23:07] <firefish> theres a lot of questions out here right now, so I will add mine in as well., What PPAs are in ubuntu 11.10 by default?
[23:07] <ocelot00> i did a lot of googling but i didnt really find anything
[23:07] <ocelot00> its hard to find something when u dont know what to look for
[23:07] <ocelot00> its my first time on linux i only used mac and windows before and there u dont even have to touch the console lol
[23:07] <mocke> Is anyone running 11.10 on a netbook?
[23:08] <Zungete> firefish: idk, ppas in ubuntu are the archive
[23:08] <maximus_> ocelot00: Did it solve your problem?
[23:09] <ocelot00> i am installing it right now
[23:09] <MonkeyDust> in dash, how can i set More Apps as default?
[23:09] <Zungete> ummm, how to customize xlock? and should i use xlock to lock the screen in root?
[23:09] <bkerensa> :) cajunmlle: Oh I know... I just forgot that I had restricted ports to certain subnets
[23:09] <bkerensa> :D
[23:09] <DasEi> dr_willis: hmm 11.04 with dd/sync os not found :-!
[23:09] <firefish> the archive?
[23:09] <Lobosque> Hello. After upgrading ubuntu, my computer freeze after boot. How do I enter in console mode and downgrade?
[23:09] <Satanaa> i asked before today, but didnt get what i was looking for, so http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1671/menu005.png
[23:09] <Aison> evening
[23:09] <Satanaa> picture is the question too btw
[23:10] <DasEi> Lobosque: you can't downgrade, either go rewscue-mode or press ctr+alt+F1
[23:10] <Zungete> Lobosque: get cd and fix it with live, NO WAY to go down
[23:10] <Lobosque> it freezes in the login screen
[23:10] <Zungete> DasEi: Lobosque cannot boot eh
[23:10] <Lobosque> is there a way to load just a console?
[23:11] <DasEi> Zungete: righty
[23:11] <Zungete> Lobosque: whoa. i have a similar trouble
[23:11] <Lobosque> because then I may manage to fix
[23:11] <Aison> I try to update to oneiric, but after a few steps the update process hangs at: Calculating the changes
[23:11] <Aison> No candidate ver:  libdbusmenu-glib3 No candidate ver:  libdbusmenu-gtk3
[23:11] <Zungete> but i didn't upgraded
[23:11] <Zungete> Lobosque: tired recuse mode?
[23:11] <DasEi> Lobosque: can you boot rescue-mode least ?
[23:11] <Lobosque> how do I do that?
[23:11] <DasEi> typokings day
[23:11] <DasEi> !safemode
[23:12] <Zungete> Lobosque: do you see a choice that says (recovery)?
[23:12] <Zungete> in boot
[23:12] <Zungete> gruv
[23:12] <DasEi> Lobosque: press left shift once grub starts, choose rescuemode
[23:12] <Zungete> grub
[23:12] <Zungete> !recovery
[23:12] <Zungete> !recovery | Lobosque
[23:13] <Lobosque> it just says "grub loading"
[23:13] <Zungete> uhhhhh
[23:13] <Lobosque> don't give me any options
[23:13] <Zungete> Lobosque
[23:13] <Zungete> PRESS L SHIFT WHEN IT SAYS THAT
[23:13] <Zack> my desktop has cut off a large portion of my computer and it is black, i cant get it back
[23:14] <Zack> l
[23:14] <Zungete> Zack: idk tired switching to text and back?
[23:14] <ocelot00> okay i opened alacarte and created a launcher
[23:14] <Zack> Zungete: i installed a program called wallpapoz, i think its a gnome problem
[23:15] <Zungete> maybe is that
[23:15] <ocelot00> but i have no idea where it is -_-"
[23:15] <Zungete> remeber that nautilus app manages wallpaper
[23:15] <ocelot00> if i go to apps from unity its not there
[23:15] <ocelot00> strangely
[23:15] <Zack> i tryd killing the prosses so it would restart but it does nothing
[23:15] <Lobosque> ok
[23:16] <Lobosque> I'm loaded into recorvery mode
[23:16] <Zungete> ocelot00 tired if it was created at $HOME?
[23:16] <DasEi> Lobosque: do you get a prompt ?
[23:16] <Lobosque> yep
[23:16] <Zungete> Lobosque: and? try go rootshell and fix it
[23:16] <Willis420> ocelot00; do i know you from #R2gb?
[23:16] <Lobosque> the problem, I think
[23:16] <DasEi> Lobosque: so first do a full update/grade
[23:16] <brandonc503> can someone help me understand the gaps in permision and ownership i have with linux and how apache uses stuf.. i get the owner user and other, and the read write execute... i just dont know what i should change the owners too
[23:16] <brandonc503> i know that apache user is www-data...
[23:16] <Lobosque> was that my battery depleted in the middle of the upgrade
[23:16] <ocelot00> im here for the first time Y;Y
[23:16] <brandonc503> but i extracted files in www/var and they took my brandon:brandon.. and dont know what to chang it to
[23:17] <Lobosque> but I'm not sure because I was not nearby :P
[23:17] <brandonc503> the cart files im installing needs certain permissions and can make owner and prmission to where it works, but dont know whta to change back
[23:17] <Lobosque> how do I upgrade trough the console?
[23:17] <DasEi> Lobosque: aharr..
[23:17] <DasEi> Lobosque: rootprompt now ?
[23:17] <Zungete> ummm, do you guys know about xlock and rooted screenlock?
[23:17] <jrib> brandonc503: what do you get exactly?  Because what you listed is all there is to "get"
[23:17] <DasEi> inet on, Lobosque(ifconfig tells you)
[23:17] <Zungete> Lobosque: try to finish update to fix it
[23:18] <DasEi> Lobosque: rootprompt now ? conncted ?
[23:18] <Zungete> Lobosque: type do-release-upgrade
[23:18] <Zungete> and with netrootshell
[23:18] <sphere> Hello to everyone, I'm new with Ubuntu. I've got a problem with Unity and I cannot restore it
[23:18] <deithrian> What key combination is this for the nano text editor "^X"?!
[23:18] <Lobosque> no new release found
[23:18] <brandonc503> jrib: my files in /var/www are brandon:brandon.. should i make root:root, or root:www-data?
[23:19] <maximus_> sphere: Whats the proble,?
[23:19] <wiredfool> deithrian: exit
[23:19] <Lobosque> omg... any chances my wireless drivers are not loadedw
[23:19] <Lobosque> ?
[23:19] <Zungete> :O
[23:19] <wiredfool> deithrian: ctrl x
[23:19] <jrib> deithrian: if you run nano, you'll see it's for "exit"
[23:19] <DasEi> deithrian: ctrel+x. quit nano
[23:19] <deithrian> wiredfool, i mean what keys do i need to press to emm make it exit
[23:19] <jrib> brandonc503: I don't know what you are using the files for.
[23:19] <deithrian> thanks DasEi :)
[23:19] <brandonc503> jrib: this http://www.prestashop.com
[23:19] <DasEi> deithrian: -e ;)
[23:19] <Zungete> anyone knows how to customize xlock? and should i use xlock to lock the screen in root?
[23:20] <jrib> brandonc503: does apache need to write to/modify the files?
[23:20] <DasEi> Lobosque: rootprompt now ? conncted ? you might first get dpkg back on..
[23:20] <ocelot00> wow that has to be a joke
[23:20] <cajunmlle> Zungete, are you really at danger of someone else using your computer?
[23:20] <Zungete> does gnome-screensaver lock works in root?
[23:20] <sphere> I was configuring compiz and then suddenly it got stuck and I just run on the terminal "unity" and only got the top bar for the menu back
[23:20] <Lobosque> I connected to internet via cable
[23:20] <brandonc503> jrib: during install it wants some folders given write permissions, and others write permissions recursivly..
[23:20] <Lobosque> now it is upgrading =]
[23:20] <ocelot00> why is this so complex it cant be that hard making an app launch by double clicking can it o.O
[23:20] <DasEi> Zungete: yes
[23:20] <brandonc503> jrib: does it mean give write permissions to apache?
[23:20] <ocelot00> its nowhere to be found
[23:21] <Zungete> cajunmlle: no  lol, i just want to make sure screensaver + lock work properly in root
[23:21] <DasEi> Zungete: I like xscreensaver
[23:21] <jrib> brandonc503: what is "it" in your sentence?
[23:21] <ocelot00> i basically just want to make a launcher on the desktop but alacarte doesnt even ask me after the path
[23:21] <wad> How can I determine the properties of the optical drive in a machine, from the OS? I mean, without having to try different kinds of disks and stuff.
[23:21] <Zungete> DasEi: me too but is not posible to use it in root
[23:21] <DasEi> Lobosque: no complains about brokenapt ? cross your fingers then
[23:21] <jrib> wad: try « sudo lshw »
[23:21] <wad> thanks
[23:21] <brandonc503> jrib: doc.prestashop.com/display/PS14/Getting+Started
[23:22] <DasEi> Zungete: it is
[23:22] <Lobosque> DasEi no complains about nothing
[23:22] <Zungete> it launches the main deamon as nobody -.-
[23:22] <Lobosque> just upgrading
[23:22] <Lobosque> looks like it is going to take a while
[23:22] <DasEi> Lobosque: so let's hope..
[23:22] <brandonc503> jrib: Step 2 & 3: System compatibility & system configuration.
[23:22] <Zungete> DasEi: then, how?
[23:22] <wad> jrib: AWESOME! Thanks! Perfect!
[23:22] <Condoulo> Ok, I have dual-monitors, and I'm using the FGLRX-update drivers on Xubuntu 11.10, with an ATI Radeon HD5750. Whenever I try to configure the monitors in Catalyst, it crashes as soon as I apply the settings. This is a known bug. However, is there a way I can configure xorg.conf with a Virtual resolution of 2960x1050, with one monitor to the right of the other.
[23:22] <brandonc503> jrib: ive given /config 755, but i think since owner is brandon:brandon its not giving me green check
[23:23] <DasEi> Zungete: look at man xscreensaver, it's described there
[23:23] <Zungete> DasEi: even worse, it says root is not good,
[23:23] <Zungete> well,
[23:23] <Zungete> DasEi: tell me, i'm not running it right now....
[23:23] <brandonc503> jrib: if im thinking this right, with a group of www-data and 755, that should give apache read and execute permissions
[23:23] <jrib> brandonc503: you probably need www-data to be able to write
[23:24] <Zungete> DasEi: pm it...
[23:24] <DasEi> Zungete: what is it you want to achieve ?
[23:24] <DasEi> http://pastebin.com/6ZSEiM7C ,zungete
[23:24] <deithrian> qin, i don't understand :( i made a crontab file and added the command with @reboot options and the NumLock is on at the Xubuntu login screen but after i log-in it turns off again, and when i use the "/usr/bin/numlockx on" it turns back on?! What am i doing wrong?
[23:25] <jrib> deithrian: you silly users thinking you are smarter than a computer... (probably some setting in xfce)
[23:27] <Zungete> DasEi: specifically what part should i read?
[23:27] <deithrian> >_<
[23:27] <Zungete> and thanks for pbining it
[23:28] <ocelot00> wow okay now i somehow managed to make it work
[23:28] <DasEi> Zungete: what is it you want to achieve ?
[23:28] <Zungete> DasEi? hey
[23:28] <ocelot00> suddenly when i double click my text file its like an application now i dont get why but okay
[23:28] <Zungete> rooted locking with xscreensaver
[23:28] <ocelot00> but the problem is now it asks me if i want to show it
[23:29] <ocelot00> or to start it
[23:29] <jrib> deithrian: also check whether numlock is activated but led is off on your keyboard
[23:29] <Zungete> dase.
[23:29] <ocelot00> linux is starting to seem like a joke...
[23:29] <Zungete> lol
[23:29] <ocelot00> im tampering over 1 hour to get an app to launch by double clicking
[23:29] <Zungete> lol
[23:29] <jrib> ocelot00: is it executable?
[23:29] <Zungete> can't create using nautilus?
[23:29] <ocelot00> yes it is
[23:29] <Zungete> wtf
[23:29] <jrib> ocelot00: why is your text file executable?
[23:30] <DasEi> Zungete: look for exact syntax, it's something like xscreensaver --comand --lock or such, works, and you can set also if you need a pass or not to unlock it again
[23:30] <ubuntu_> hi
[23:30] <ocelot00> it launches the app i want
[23:30] <ocelot00> its a shell script
[23:30] <jrib> ocelot00: create a launcher for it
[23:30] <Zahrada> is it arthritis?
[23:30] <qin> ocelot00: And you lainching it in?
[23:30] <cajunmlle> http://rubylution.ping.de/articles/2007/08/31/automatically-changing-background-wallpaper-in-xfce4
[23:31] <Zungete> dase: idk, where's synthax?
[23:31] <ocelot00> well if i double click it it asks me if i want to show it or to run it
[23:31] <ocelot00> and thats pretty annoying
[23:31] <jrib> deithrian: try this: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=k3t2t05ec860i4daold8dc61s3&topic=92765.msg778129#msg778129 (setting in xfce4 settings editor, keyboard section)
[23:31] <ocelot00> thats almost the same as having to put it in terminal so it beats the purpose
[23:31] <jrib> ocelot00: if you create a launcher, that won't happen
[23:31] <ocelot00> i downloaded alacarte to make a launcher
[23:31] <ocelot00> but i dont really get it
[23:31] <ocelot00> i created a launcher
[23:32] <ocelot00> but is nowhere to be found
[23:32] <ocelot00> on my drive
[23:32] <jrib> ocelot00: a launcher is just a .desktop file.  Look at the ones in /usr/share/applications/ for an example
[23:32] <Zungete> DasEi: no way! read line 287
[23:32] <jrib> ocelot00: the alacarte one you made *may* be in ~/.local/share/applications/
[23:32] <Islam> is there a way to restore the ubuntu 11.10 to the way it was firstly upgraded including packages and programs ?
[23:32] <Zungete> DasEi: it's a bug
[23:33] <Zungete> DasEi: read yourself
[23:33] <Islam> is there a way to restore the ubuntu 11.10 to the way it was firstly upgraded including packages and programs ?
[23:33] <Zungete> DasEi: title's "Locking and root logins"
[23:34] <Puplitized> Is there a different Live CD other than the ISOLINUX type?  Like an INITRD one that dsl offers?  I cannot boot past the ISOLINUX 4.03 on my older hardware.  Nothing wrong with the CD I tested it on a newer laptop and it gets past that stage
[23:34] <Puplitized> the ISOLINUX dudes have screwed something up
[23:34] <Zungete> Islam: yes, use live cd or install freshly
[23:34] <Islam> its working but with alot of problems, I dont want to reinstall it
[23:35] <admin2> server lublin.irc.pl
[23:35] <Zungete> you have to, is the only way, it will solve every problem
[23:35] <Islam> I used a command on the root to uninstall a program and it removed some packeges that I didnt want to remove
[23:35] <Zungete> Hey DasEi!!!!
[23:36] <Zungete> Islam: reinstall them!
[23:36] <Puplitized> Has anyone else here noted a issue with ISOLINUX 4.03 the ones on Ubuntu 11.10? Tested on older hardware like PIV laptop or even a PIII laptop?  I was able to get past the ISOLINUX phase in Ubuntu 10.04 no problem in my older hardware
[23:36] <Islam> I dont even know tham Zungete
[23:36] <Islam> is there a command to solve the system packages ?
[23:36] <Zungete> Islam: wtf,
[23:36] <Zungete> yes
[23:36] <Zungete> apt-get -f
[23:37] <Satanaa> what is this?
[23:37] <DoverOs> wine is lagging in 11.10
[23:37] <Satanaa> http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1671/menu005.png
[23:37] <arand> Islam: Which package was it you removed?
[23:37] <Zungete> just do this: apt-get, and read it's help Islam
[23:37] <davf> can anyone help me troubleshooting slow boot on 11.10. there seems to be like 15-20 seconds of nothing then I see my webcam init and the rest of the boot is ok.
[23:37] <DoverOs> Satanaa: it's blows up the world
[23:37] <Satanaa> :o
[23:37] <Puplitized> seesm like 11.10 is plague'd with issues
[23:37] <DoverOs> Satanaa: it's part of empathy or something
[23:37] <Puplitized> I can't get past the ISOLINUX 4.03
[23:38] <Satanaa> i dont have that
[23:38] <Islam> arand: I dont know but I knew some of them and reinstalled them, but I dont know what else
[23:38] <ocelot00> okay alacarte doesnt work
[23:38] <ocelot00> is there another way for creating a launcher?
[23:38] <Zungete> DasEi!!!!!!!! are you there? can you read the bug titled "Locking and root logins"
[23:38] <ocelot00> in ubuntu 11.10?
[23:39] <Zungete> ocelot00: tired with nautilus?
[23:39] <brandonc503> jrib: so i made the /var/www/config brandon:brandon with 005 and didnt work, trying 007, cuase then i know that some user needs write permissions .. right?
[23:39] <Zungete> .desktop?
[23:39] <DoverOs> Satanaa: well, if you don't have empathy and it's still there, go check for it in your packages
[23:39] <ocelot00> what is nautilus?
[23:39] <ocelot00> another application?
[23:39] <meLon> Having problems with nautilus on my nvidia dual screen (separate x sessions) after upgrading to 11.10.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1865113 .  Most recent post has new information.
[23:39] <arand> Islam: but which was the package which caused the other ones to uninstall?
[23:39] <Zungete> the damn desktop!
[23:39] <Zungete> nautilus = windows explorer in gnome
[23:39] <jrib> brandonc503: just do 775 with www-data as group
[23:39] <Islam> the ehcp its a cpanel with mysql and php
[23:40] <brandonc503> which will give apache all permissions right?
[23:40] <DasEi> Zungete: I am, I just try to figure out how that worked for me some time ago, on my current-system I also get the error, though can run the demo-gui
[23:40] <Islam> arand:  the ehcp its a cpanel with mysql and php
[23:40] <ocelot00> cant i just rename my file from xxx.sh to xxx.desktop?
[23:40] <arand> Islam: /var/log/dpkg.log is a log of all package changes, it may be useful.
[23:40] <ocelot00> and its a launcher then?
[23:41] <Zungete> DasEi: well, i saw that it claims that the daemon is not running and it still sucks
[23:41] <arand> Islam: But would it not be easier to just reinstall ehcp?
[23:41] <stuw--away> SAMBA - need help with samba, how do i view which users are currently connected with samba? thanks
[23:41] <Islam> arand thanx alot I'll have a look
[23:41] <Zungete> ocelot00: no you can't, you need special lines to make it .desktop
[23:41] <DasEi> Zungete: doesn't help,I already removed gnomes pid and started daemon xscreen again, be a lil patient
[23:42] <datakid> hola, for some reason I can't join a computer to a smb server using either my sudo, or the root user - any tips?
[23:42] <Islam> no its now about ehcp, its about the command I used to uninstall it, the command removed other packages
[23:42] <Zungete> ocelot00: open a .desktop file with text editor and learn
[23:42] <datakid> it's set up with smb-ldap, but that shouldn't affect adding a computer to the domian?
[23:42] <computer_> Wow I am getting seemingly endless update for the UNIX Printing System, meanwhile my CPU fan is running way to fast all the time wiping out my battery life and the noise filtering on my internal microphone isn't up to par
[23:42] <Zungete> DasEi: buah, it sucks, what to do to get around this?
[23:42] <DoverOs> ocelot00: i'll upload a template
[23:43] <ocelot00> yes please
[23:43] <ocelot00> was searching my pc for *.desktop but it doesnt seem to work in ubuntu xD
[23:43] <datakid> I am using 10.04 LTS fully uptodate
[23:43] <sphere> Hello, someone could help me to restore Unity?
[23:44] <Zungete> DasEi: wtf, looks like rooot is too dangerous even for xscreensaver, it sux
[23:44] <EagleScreen> sphere: what did you do with Unity?
[23:44] <Tehrandumb> anyone got a minute to diagnose a lockup issue w/ me?
[23:44] <Zungete> DasEi: got gnome?
[23:44] <DoverOs> ocelot00: http://pastebin.com/JhYkJixt
[23:44] <cajunmlle> Tehrandumb when does it lock up?
[23:44] <Tehrandumb> running Ubuntu 11.10, and 10.04 before that, both of them lock up when i write to my software raid5 array over samba within minutes....
[23:45] <Tehrandumb> if i read from the same array, can read all day long
[23:45] <DoverOs> sphere: what's the problem?
[23:45] <ocelot00> thank you dover
[23:45] <Tehrandumb> overnight i did a repair on the array, and it passed fine
[23:45] <sphere> I was configuring compiz and then it got stuck all the desktop and the unity shell stopped , I typed in the terminal "unity" and only got back the top bar
[23:45] <Tehrandumb> it's 4x2tb hitachi sata drives in a raid5
[23:46] <Tehrandumb> i did a clean install of 11.10 last night on a new boot drive, and it still locks up on writes to the array :/
[23:46] <wiredfool> sphere: configuring compiz has knocked out unity for a few others as well
[23:46] <DoverOs> sphere: go into ccsm and check the unity "ubuntu unity plugin"
[23:47] <Zungete> uhhhhh
[23:47] <Islam> is there a command work like a system restore for a previous date or somthing ?
[23:47] <ar44t> Greetings from my android device. Ubuntu wont load. Black screen of death after purple screen for 2 seconds
[23:47] <cajunmlle> Tehrandumb, apparently it doesn't like software raid
[23:48] <sphere> the problem is that I don't know how to run a program from terminal , I'm new using Ubuntu but I want to learn solve the problem, I've got a picture of my desktop right know
[23:48] <ar44t> Can get a terminal up in recovery mode
[23:48] <stuw--away> ok, i got it, it's smbstatus -b  didn't fiund it on google the first time, sometimes not sure of which keywords to use
[23:48] <ar44t> I need help.
[23:48] <armour> Does anyone tried to use a swapfile on an external drive and unplug it hot? How catastrophic do you think it will be?
[23:48] <Zungete> Islam: no unlesss u got backup
[23:48] <cajunmlle> armour, bery bad
[23:49] <DoverOs> sphere: do you have the compiz config setting manager?
[23:49] <Zungete> ar44t: yes, it's the shell
[23:49] <arand> Islam: unfortunately not, I think dpkg/apt lacks the transaction history/undo of rpm/yum
[23:49] <cajunmlle> armour, if you did that expect an instant crash
[23:49] <ectabyte> Is there an offical repo I can add to install Sun's java? I can't really find anything that works in 11.10
[23:49] <sphere> I wouldn't say yes, but this is only what I have http://postimage.org/image/2acct152c/
[23:49] <Islam> arand: I didnt understan what you are saying
[23:50] <ocelot00> damn
[23:50] <DasEi> Zungete: looking into it, you could modify config of x, but I'd rather use an alias and log off root to keep the x off root
[23:50] <ectabyte> How can I install sun's java in ubuntu 11.10?
[23:50] <wiredfool> sphere: type ccsm & in the terminal window
[23:50] <DoverOs> sphere: hit ctrl c, then type ccsm and enter
[23:51] <wiredfool> sphere: that will run the compiz settings manager for you
[23:51] <armour> cajunmlle: well just experimenting with creating a swapfile on an SD card on my mini, I know when I suspend it it will try to unmount all external devices..
[23:51] <psingh> ectabyte: Are you in 11.04?  I know in 11.04, you need to enable the partner repository to get Sun's java.  The package is sun-java6-jdk and sun-java6-plugin
[23:51] <armour> and crash it....
[23:51] <zoon> Anyone's using awesomewm?
[23:51] <Zungete> Islam: arand is saying that apt do not have log to rollback and restore old
[23:51] <Zungete> DasEi: it gets too complex :(
[23:51] <Islam> ah thanx
[23:51] <sphere> ok , I got it guys, now what should I do?
[23:51] <DoverOs> sphere: then when ccsm loads scroll down till you find the purple circle labeled 'ubuntu unity plugin' and check that
[23:51] <armour> So when I suspend it I will try to have all closed and see how it goes
[23:52] <cajunmlle> armour, putting a swapfile on a SD card will give that SD card a very short life
[23:52] <ectabyte> psingh: Yeah I did it in 11.04, but i'm in 11.10
[23:52] <DasEi> Zungete: I'll try an alias n report back in few minutes
[23:52] <wiredfool> cajunmlle: I've run 10.04 on a sd card since it came out on my netbook
[23:52] <armour> yeah so I heard
[23:52] <Zungete> DasEi: there's no config for x i think, if there's where is located?
[23:52] <sphere> it says this -"Some key and edge bindings of Plugin Ubuntu Unity Plugin conflict with other plugins. Do you want to resolve these conflicts?
[23:52] <DoverOs> sphere: resolve all
[23:52] <armour> Just playing around with some old SDs.. Just read that something kind of REadyBoot could be done in ubuntu
[23:53] <psingh> ectabyte: In Software Sources, on the "Other Software" tab, make sure "Canonical Partners" is checked.
[23:53] <Zungete> DasEi: why alias, xscreensaver-demo needs xscreensaver daemon
[23:53] <armour> and I am trying it.. I have not seen any huge speed improvement
[23:53] <GeorgeH> hey all
[23:54] <ectabyte> psingh: it was checked
[23:54] <GeorgeH> I'm having a bit of a 'general ubuntu issue,' was hoping someone here may have seen it before
[23:54] <ectabyte> I've been having issues with openjre/jdk so I wanted to install sun java
[23:54] <sphere> oh!!! that was nice ! thank very much guys, it solved everything. I want to learn to solve this kind of stuff, where shuold I look?
[23:54] <GeorgeH> essentially, the gnome shutdown message box keeps popping up with a 60 second count
[23:55] <GeorgeH> it usually closes within a second or two, only to reappear again!
[23:55] <psingh> ectabyte, if you are willing to try it, you can use the Natty partner repository to see if Sun's JDK will install.... gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:55] <DoverOs> sphere: google is yo friend :P
[23:55] <ectabyte> psingh: is it backwards compatible?
[23:55] <psingh> replace "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu oneric partner" with "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu natty partner"
[23:55] <zeta-> I've got a X background with no desktop icons, win decorations, menus or panels -- what is gnome's window manager called?
[23:56] <Zungete> DasEi: also have you 'disabled' xauth?
[23:56] <GeorgeH> here's an image: http://i54.tinypic.com/w8vnr6.png
[23:56] <ocelot00> okay i cant do it
[23:56] <psingh> ectabyte, I have no idea!  But you can come back and tell us (if your installation still works! ;) )
[23:56] <Zungete> zeta-: metacity
[23:56] <ocelot00> whats wrong with this??
[23:56] <ocelot00> http://pastebin.com/A9aGNGnU
[23:56] <ocelot00> how to do it correctly?
[23:56] <ocelot00> the .desktop file
[23:57] <GeorgeH> if I use the System Monitor command 'Stop Process' that box quits spazzing
[23:57] <Zungete> zeta-: have you did a pstree to check if it is running?
[23:57] <DoverOs> ocelot00: you are trying to run terminal commands in the .desktop
[23:57] <zeta-> Zungete: I thought that was just compiz?
[23:57] <Zungete> zeta-: also have you ran twm or gnome-session?
[23:58] <ocelot00> hmm so i need to make a seperate sh file and then make the .desktop launch the .sh?
[23:58] <Zungete> zeta-: compiz is an enhanced WM that uses different wm's it's automatic
[23:58] <ectabyte> psingh: The sun-java6* packages are shown, i'm trying to install them now
[23:58] <Islam> whats the package to play the review once I stop the mouse on a music file ?
[23:58] <sphere> yep, but where should I start, I'm starting to read the Official Ubuntu Book , anyway , thank you for all
[23:59] <Zungete> ocelot00: no, you need a proper .desktop pointing to your .sh
[23:59] <DoverOs> ocelot00: use the desktop launcher to run a .sh. because you just disabled the enviromnment, and your exec points to "p" which is not a valid directory
[23:59] <zeta-> Zungete: trying gnome-session now...
[23:59] <Zungete> ocelot00: or just link it!
[23:59] <DasEi> Zungete: no, I just created an alias in /etc/bash.bash.rc with a "new" command that first logs in a non-root user and then launches xscreensaver-command --lock, works fine with no breach
[23:59] <Zungete> zeta-: how did you logged on


[06:30] <rodetod9> amazing that irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu completely locks up chatzilla?
[19:15] <Bels1> wow.. so many people here :)
[19:16] <Bels1> could anyone help me getting suspend working on my Asus A7Jc?
[19:17] <simira> topic...
[19:17] <Bels1> oh sorry
[19:19] <Bels1> So.. you might answer this instead. The LaptopTestingTeam wiki page.. is that one still of interest? I was thinking about updating the A7Jc page
[19:19] <simira> please do
[19:20] <Bels1> It's a slightly different submodel though.. that might not matter?
[19:20] <simira> no, just make a comment on it
[19:21] <Bels1> ok.. i'll do it.. have fun ^^


[00:42] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1197317] After KDE update in Saucy, PowerDevil does not suspend the system @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1197317 (by Wladimir Mutel)
[03:08] <smartboyhw> Good morning people
[05:57] <markey> what's the deal with this: "The following packages have been kept back:kscreen"
[06:05] <manchicken> apachelogger: Did you see my latest submission?
[06:06] <valorie> markey, same thing happened to me
[06:06] <valorie> if you apt-get install kscreen you get the new one
[06:07] <valorie> errr, libkscreen I think
[06:07] <markey> valorie: thanks that worked
[06:08] <valorie> last I heard, the packagers were still thinking about how to do that better
[06:54] <ggvaberi> hello. is possible to debug rmmod process?
[07:15] <jussi> anyone know why kscreen is being kept bck?
[07:16] <yofel> jussi: packaging issue, please update with 'sudo apt-get install kscreen'
[07:16] <jussi> yofel: ok, thanks
[07:17] <yofel> xnox: what breaks is kalzium, which needs avogadro, which has a hard cmake dependency on '/usr/lib/libboost-python.so'. With the new boost-python changes avogadro can't find boost-python anymore
[07:17] <yofel> (it can't find it when trying to rebuild it either)
[07:22] <tsdgeos> yofel: ah so that's it, i kept wondering wth that /usr/lib/libboost-python.so came from but decided that since no code had changed for a long time it wasn't kalziums fault
[07:25] <yofel> tsdgeos: nah, it's avogadro's fault. more precise avogadro_LIB_DEPENDS in /usr/lib/avogadro/1_0/AvogadroLibraryDeps.cmake
[07:26]  * yofel needs to run
[07:26] <tester56> yofel: remember the nepomuk bug we talked about?
[08:18] <yofel> tester56: which one? I remember more than one ^^
[08:18] <tester56> the nepomuk backup thing
[08:19] <tester56> where it did not restore comments etc.
[08:20] <tester56> vHanda fixed it yesterday for the final ... hopefully nepomuk-core can be respun ...
[08:36] <yofel> ah yeah, saw the review on the release-team ML
[09:18] <tester56> yofel: do have time for a moment?
[09:18] <tester56> *you
[09:19] <vHanda> I still haven't committed it
[09:20] <vHanda> will do probably do that today or so
[09:20] <tester56> thanks!
[09:28] <yofel> tester56: hm?
[09:28] <tester56> yofel: could you try switching activity and see if it works for you?
[09:29] <tester56> it seems activities are broken in 4.10.97 for me
[09:29] <tester56> when i switch activities pager still shows me the windows of the preceeding activity
[09:30] <yofel> there's an activity pager?
[09:30] <tester56> no the virtual workspace pager
[09:32] <yofel> hm.. works for me
[09:32] <yofel> (saucy)
[09:32] <tester56> furthermore both taskmanager and icon tasks show me all the windows of the first activity although configured to only show windows of current activity
[09:32] <tester56> i am also on saucy
[09:33] <tester56> yofel: thanks for trying out ... strange ... maybe sth. screwed up my config
[09:33] <yofel> well, here it seesm to work. I switch to another activity, all my windows are gone, task manager doesn't show them (like it's set to), and they don't show up on the desktop pager either
[09:36] <tester56> kain says "trying to alter state of unknown activity!!"
[09:36] <tester56> *kwin
[09:37] <xnox> yofel: right. I'd rather fix kalzium/avogadro in that case. I'll take a look.
[09:38] <yofel> xnox: ok thanks, kalzium will be fine once avogradro is fixed
[09:39] <tester56> yofel: i will investigate that later ... it seems kwin related ... maybe because of xorg edgers ppa
[09:39] <smartboyhw> Hello yofel
[09:39] <yofel> hi smartboyhw
[10:01] <smartboyhw> Registering for SAT 2/11/2013...
[10:18] <smartboyhw> yofel, how's avogardo doing?
[10:20] <yofel> smartboyhw: waiting to be fixed
[10:20] <yofel> see ^
[10:21] <smartboyhw> yofel, oh great
[10:21] <smartboyhw> lalalalala not much work to do:P
[10:21] <smartboyhw> It would be good if you guys do the translations, it seemed like non-developers have to use ec2s:P
[10:21] <yofel> you can do backporting to raring if everything except kalzium is done
[10:22] <smartboyhw> yofel, I think all of them is done, this is a rather smooth release I'd say
[10:22] <smartboyhw> But, I need to practice my piano now:P
[10:22] <yofel> smartboyhw: well, not really, but as we need to sign some 50 packages you should generate it somewhere where we can access it
[10:22] <yofel> you could use my container
[10:22] <yofel> then I can sign it
[10:22] <smartboyhw> yofel, I knoq
[10:22] <smartboyhw> *know
[10:23] <smartboyhw> Anyway, piano practice is my 1st priority
[10:23] <smartboyhw> :P
[10:23] <yofel> but it's easier if someone with upload permissions just does l10n
[10:23] <smartboyhw> I nominate yofel or shadeslayer
[10:23] <yofel> no hurry with it anyway
[10:24] <yofel> oh hm, backporting to raring would have to be done in ninjas until the tars are public
[10:24] <yofel> also nepomuk might get a respin
[10:24] <yofel> so lets wait
[10:24] <yofel> -core
[10:27] <smartboyhw> yofel, nepomuk-core why?
[10:31] <yofel> see release-team ML
[10:42] <smartboyhw> yofel, hmm I'm subscribed with no mail about it
[10:46] <yofel> smartboyhw: http://lists.kde.org/?t=137598458700001&r=1&w=2 and http://lists.kde.org/?t=137598458900004&r=1&w=2
[10:49] <smartboyhw> yofel, ookkkkk
[10:49] <smartboyhw> Has anyone here taken the SAT before?
[11:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:18] <xnox> yofel: ScottK: the fix is two fold. (a) make cmake's FindBoost look into multiarch locations (b) make avogadro look for python-py27 boost module.
[12:19] <xnox> i think I should continue shipping boost-python.so -> boost-python-py27.so symlink. But I am not sure. Upstream abi tags don't seem to support 27/3x tags on the boost python library yet.
[12:36] <smartboyhw> Boom
[12:46] <BluesKaj> are you guys seeing mysql dependency problems on upgrades today? , we're getting reports of mysql depend troubles blocking upgrades on 13.04
[13:11] <smartboyhw> BluesKaj, hmm for which package mysql was blocking
[13:28] <ScottK> BluesKaj: With -proposed enabled?
[13:28] <ScottK> There was a bad SRU in -proposed that got pulled.
[13:29] <ScottK> xnox: Would you please coordinate the CMake stuff with MoDaX in Debian.
[13:29] <xnox> ScottK: ok. it needs to go upstream anyway, both multiarch findboost and multiple-pythons in findboost.
[13:31] <ScottK> I got him to use the multiple Python include dirs patch in Debian's CMake, but it's not upstream yet.  You might offer to help him get that sorted too.
[13:31] <ScottK> Our version apparently isn't fully backward compatible.
[14:06] <xnox> ScottK: so i heard.
[14:10] <xnox> yofel: kalzium rebuilds now in saucy.
[14:11] <smartboyhw> xnox, \o/
[14:45] <yofel> xnox: thanks a lot!
[15:22] <ScottK> How close are to to 4.11.0 in saucy?
[15:44] <smartboyhw> ScottK, only kalzium
[15:44] <smartboyhw> And a possible nepomuk-core fix from upstream
[16:46]  * ScottK works on kopete ftbfs on ppc.
[16:59] <ScottK> KDE Bug 323312
[19:23] <xnox> ScottK: is Kubuntu/KDE using qt5 yet?
[19:25] <yofel> xnox: no
[19:25] <yofel> kde frameworks 5 (kdelibs replacement) will be based on qt5
[19:25] <yofel> coming sometime next year
[19:26] <xnox> yofel: before or after 14.04 =)
[19:26] <yofel> after
[19:26] <xnox> yofel: ok.
[19:27] <xnox> in that case, some time lines imposed by ScottK do not sound reasonable from Kubuntu's point of view.
[19:28] <ScottK> xnox: I'm not a "Kubuntu" release manager.  I'm part of the release team for the entire  project.
[19:31] <xnox> ScottK: sure, I don't deny that. And historically our entire project wouldn't exist, unless we apply patches, strive to not regress, or differentiate. Otherwise we'd be arch linux.
[19:31]  * ScottK looks at /usr/bin/python --> python3 in arch and totally doesn't understand.
[19:33] <ScottK> Core toolkit packages like Qt shouldn't diverge from upstream.  That doesn't mean that stuff can't land in the distro first, but that can't be it.
[19:33] <ScottK> If you look at the history, you'll see I've been quite open to stuff coming into qt4-x11 before it could actually land upstream while it was being worked on.
[19:33] <xnox> ScottK: have we ever had a gtk or qt package without patches? has debian _ever_ had that?
[19:35] <ScottK> No, but, to pick a related example, we've had long term Debian/Ubuntu python-qt4 patches because no one ever upstream them.  pyqt5, we're starting fresh and working with upstream from the start.
[19:35] <ScottK> Currently we've got no patches that aren't upstream for the next release and the same for the arm build patch I'm about to add.
[19:37] <d_ed_> xnox: what time lines?
[19:38] <xnox> ScottK: who "we"?
[19:39] <ScottK> The people working on that package.  ATM, myself and mitya57.
[19:39] <ScottK> Or Debian and Ubuntu if you prefer.
[19:39] <ScottK> Works out the same.
[19:39] <xnox> d_ed_: based around ubuntu releases, rather than qt releases.
[19:39] <ScottK> I know sometimes stuff needs to be patched.  I don't object to that.  I object to not caring about upstreaming.
[19:40] <xnox> ScottK: but i can't upstream changes into release qt 5.0 toolkit anymore. and they stopped taking patches for qt4.
[19:40] <xnox> s/release/released/
[19:40] <kubotu> xnox meant: "ScottK: but i can't upstream changes into released qt 5.0 toolkit anymore. and they stopped taking patches for qt4."
[19:41] <ScottK> Right, but you can get them in 5.2.
[19:41] <ScottK> And there's stuff that never got into 4.8, but it got into 5.0.
[19:41] <xnox> ScottK: in that sense I interpret your stance as a deadlock, rather than advocating for proactive upstreaming.
[19:42] <xnox> ScottK: ack.
[19:43] <ScottK> No.  My stance is go work with upstream and show you did it because it's been demonstrated over the last ~4 years that "trust me, I'll do it later" isn't reliable.
[19:49] <xnox> ScottK: ok. but with qt5, they no longer want platform ports upstream (e.g. windows/mac/symbian/linux-maemo/linux-meego/linux-android....) but rather platforms provide their own Qt Platform Abstraction plugins, such that the API is upstreamed, yet implementations can & should be vendor specific.
[19:49] <d_ed_> xnox: that's not quite true. QPA has no binary compatability. They want it out of the kernel
[19:50] <d_ed_> QPA plugins remain in the Qt tree
[19:50] <xnox> d_ed_: if it has no binary compatability, i'm not sure how is that any better over qt4 style ports then.
[19:50]  * xnox goes to read up more.
[19:51] <d_ed_> there are three things
[19:51] <d_ed_> Platform (i.e Wayland, Mir, X, Windows, Cocoa, etc.)  which do graphic stuff
[19:52] <d_ed_> PlatformThemes (KDE, Gnome, Windows, OS X) which do default shortcuts, which open dialog to use
[19:52] <d_ed_> Styles (Oxygen, Plastique, Aqua, etc.) which can change minor things in widgets
[19:56] <xnox> d_ed_: why would I want to maintain my platform plugin in qt upstream, rather than on my platform, since for example appmenu API is dependant on ubuntu release and qt version there. Inherently we do not support arbitrary future major qt releases backported back to previous releases.
[19:56] <xnox> (as a whole project)
[19:57] <ScottK> xnox: What platform is this?
[19:57] <xnox> d_ed_: reading up: http://qforever.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/qt-platform-abstraction-starter-guide/ we want to support as many platforms in parallel as possible. And that in itself should be co-installable and easily to switch between at runtime.
[19:58] <xnox> ScottK: "Qt Platform Abstraction", or please elaborate your question.
[19:58] <xnox> oh, i see i used same work twice with different meaning.
[19:58] <ScottK> What's the platform for the Ubuntu project?
[19:58] <d_ed_> xnox: instead, could you explain what you want to acheive.
[19:58] <d_ed_> xnox: I'll put my Qt hat on and answer
[20:00] <soee> whats wrong with kscreen on raring ? it was stopped during upgrade ?
[20:00] <xnox> d_ed_: in ubuntu project we ship binaries of Qt with universal support. Yet we ship multiple Qt based platforms with different abstractions: kde (more or less stock), kde active plasma (may have unique abstraction from previous), unity on compiz, unity on mir, unity on mir - tablet semantics, unity on mir - phone semantics, lubuntu new qt project (what's its name).
[20:01] <xnox> d_ed_: i really cannot explode the matrix and have multiple qt flavours packages. and my app should run under all UIs.
[20:01] <yofel> soee: apt-get install kscreen
[20:02] <yofel> soee: we'll try to work that out ASAP
[20:02] <xnox> d_ed_: thus i should compile my qt5 with as many platforms enabled as possible. and depending on the session the right ones should be used.
[20:02] <yofel> afiestas: ping again about libkscreen plugin namespacing. Possible or not?
[20:03] <d_ed_> xnox: so you're a Qt packager?
[20:03] <xnox> d_ed_: what's the best way to develop platform plugins that are specific to  ubuntu project (e.g. unity*), together with external platform plugins (e.g. kde, lubuntu) and upstream (e.g. stock qt)?
[20:03] <xnox> d_ed_: that's my question above ^
[20:04] <d_ed_> so you're a ubuntu developer wanting to ship a Ubuntu platform?
[20:04] <afiestas> yofel: about what?
[20:05] <xnox> d_ed_: if you look at my launchpad page, i'm ubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu developer =) so yeah, I am one of the people who makes ubuntu project. It currently support multitude of platforms, there isn't just one.
[20:05] <yofel> afiestas: our kscreen update in raring is currently stuck because apt refuses to automatically replace libkscreen0 with libkscreen1 (they're not co-installable because they both have the same plugins)
[20:05] <soee> yofel, worked, ok but i had to run also apt-get -f install as apt-get install kscreen ended with: Operation was stopped before could be finished
[20:05] <yofel> afiestas: could we instead add the soversion to the plugin path so that they're co-installable?
[20:06] <yofel> afiestas: or would having 2 sets of plugins break something?
[20:06] <yofel> (linked against different libs)
[20:06] <afiestas> why do you want to co install them_
[20:06] <afiestas> ?
[20:07] <xnox> afiestas: yes.
[20:07] <xnox> afiestas: it's currently supported.
[20:07] <yofel> afiestas: because usually, the same library with different SOVERSIONS should be co-installable
[20:07] <yofel> as there are no file conflicts
[20:07] <yofel> only the plugins break that
[20:07] <yofel> and apt doesn't really like that
[20:07] <yofel> (on upgrades)
[20:08] <yofel> we're not yet sure *why* it doesn't like it though
[20:11] <afiestas> well, we look in a folder for the plugins
[20:12] <afiestas> if we found 4, 2 of them with different abi we'll break
[20:12] <d_ed_> xnox: right, so everything will hopefully be a platform theme at some point
[20:12] <d_ed_> so you ship liqt.. .plus some platform themes
[20:12] <afiestas> siml;y replace them, nobody is using libkscreen and you don't want to ahve both versions
[20:12] <d_ed_> xnox: and there shouldn't be any additional patches/hacks anywhere
[20:12] <yofel> afiestas: you look in /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/, could libkscreen 1 not look in /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/kscreen1/  or so?
[20:13] <yofel> er, /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/kscreen
[20:13] <yofel> if we could make that /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/kscreen1, we would have no file conflicts, and you shouldn't find multiple sets of plugins
[20:14] <yofel> afiestas: we currently do replace them, but apt for *some stupid reason* refuses to do that
[20:14] <yofel> so the update is simply held back for most people
[20:15] <afiestas> but they are conflicting aren't they?
[20:15] <yofel> they do, because they both ship /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/kscreen
[20:16] <yofel> you can't have 2 packages install the same files
[20:16] <afiestas> I can do that I guess, having it namespaces is always good but I can't do this now
[20:17] <yofel> ok, thanks for the input.
[20:17] <yofel> we'll try to debug apt in the meanwhile
[20:18] <yofel> debfx: ^
[20:30] <yofel> JontheEchidna: do you know whether http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-commits&m=136332005527708 did get a quantal SRU? (see #kubuntu)
[20:46] <valorie> what y'all do is so important! http://blog.sucuri.net/2013/08/open-source-backdoor-copyrighted-under-gnu-gpl.html
[21:00] <yofel> that's evil :S
[21:05] <ScottK> It's PHP, so it was evil to start with.  This is just another evil.
[21:10] <valorie> right, just an example
[21:39] <allee> yofel: Why not just:  Conflicts: libkscreen0    Should work, at least for one of my local-only pkgs
[21:40] <yofel> it has
[21:40] <yofel> Breaks: libkscreen0
[21:40] <yofel> Replaces: libkscreen0
[21:40] <yofel> as it should by policy
[21:42] <allee> hmm breaks.  Time to reread policy ...
[21:50] <allee> yofel: hmmm, as you want to get libkscreen0 removed when libkscreen1 is installed, then it's conflict (at least that's my understanding of http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-breaks 73. and 7.4)
[21:54] <yofel> allee: well, this is really about moving files from one package to another, which is Breaks
[21:55] <yofel> though the 2nd paragraph of conflicts sounds interesting, maybe worth a try
[21:55] <allee> If the kscreen/KSC_*.so plugins are dynamicly load by libkscreenX  that IMHO they should be put into/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/libkscreenX
[21:56] <yofel> right
[21:56] <yofel> as we said above
[21:56] <allee> if not, they are better put into their own package e.g. kscreen-kcs  which would make libkscreen{0.1} koexists
[21:57] <allee> and libkscreen(x-1) has no rdepends as soon as libkscreen(x) is installed and can stay on disk or autoremoved
[22:15] <allee> KCS_* link against libkscreenX.  So it looks like the proper solution would be to move then to their own package (or better upstream can move then into  kscreen)
[22:17] <allee> afiestas: do the KCS_* plugins/backends use libkscreen or uses libkscreen the KCS* plugins/backends to abstract the impl. details away?
[22:19] <yofel> anyone an idea about this crash? http://paste.kde.org/p4945167a/
[22:19] <yofel> happens when trying to use the kipi-plugins from digikam 3.3 on quantal and precise
[22:24] <allee> Most kipi crashes AFAIR were due to pluging links libabcX and app links against libabcY
[22:26] <yofel> well, this was built against the matching kde libs
[22:28] <allee> but, e.g. libexiv, used by plugin and an app using the plugins can still be different soversion
[22:28] <allee> ^^ not sure if it's the case here
[22:28]  * allee tries to find a precise system with digikam 3.3. ....
[22:28] <yofel> well, this was ksnapshot, crashes when I click on 'send to' trying to load the kipi plugins
[22:29] <yofel> allee: you won't, it's for testing in yofel/staging1 ppa
[22:29] <yofel> build against kde in kubuntu-ppa/backports
[22:40] <afiestas> allee: the second thing
[22:41] <afiestas> though plugins link against kscreen and return classes defines adn exported there
[22:47] <allee> okay. usage from top to bottom is:  kscreen -> libkscreen <-> KCS_XXX,  so proper solution from pkging point of view would be to namespace the plugins below  plugins/libkscreenX
[22:49] <ScottK> That could work.


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[09:13] <will```> hi, I set my mythtv to automatically watch for inserted DVDs, but now mythfrontend segfaults
[09:14] <will```> firstly how do I reset the settings?
[09:16] <will```> (given that my frontend is the place where I would usually change these settings!)
[13:25] <josefg> hi
[15:07] <hipitihop> Anyone know where mythtvosd/cid.xml is kept ? I'm trying to follow this  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+tips+MythTV+integration
[15:07] <Zinn> [www.voip-info.org] Asterisk tips MythTV integration - voip-info.org
[23:56] <ttist25> hello - I'm trying to get mythnettv working on a new install of mythbuntu 10.4 and I'm getting an error when I run mythnettv that says 'You need to create the configured directory at "" '
[23:57] <ttist25> I tried mkdir data in /var/lib/mythtv and /var/lib/mythtv/mythnettv and in my users home directory but I keep getting the same error.  Any ideas where I might look?


[12:34] <disc0tech> Hello, I'm suffering from a crash in /usr/lib/ibus/ibus-ui-gtk3 - I can't find a package that contains that file, which package should I refer to when reporting a bug?
[12:46] <cprofitt> hello ara
[12:48] <cprofitt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1271410
[12:48] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1271410 in xorg (Ubuntu) "screen brightness does not work after removal of second monitor" [Undecided,New]
[14:21] <hggdh> disc0tech: package is ibus
[14:25] <disc0tech> thanks


[15:06] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Did you have any joy investigating oem-config?
[15:14] <cyphermox> I only started this morning after all
[15:20] <davmor2> cyphermox: slacker ;)
[15:21] <davmor2> cyphermox: next you'll be saying it's only like 10 in the morning here ;)
[15:53] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, What can I do to help?
[16:01] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, What is the correct incantation to restart ubiquity-dm?
[16:01] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I want to poke some code and see the effect.
[16:04] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Don't worry. Got it.
[16:29] <cyphermox> ok
[18:45] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: did you find out anything?
[18:45] <cyphermox> for me, it does appear to be properly removing the oem use
[18:45] <cyphermox> *user
[18:45] <cyphermox> just not rebooting or continuing on to a dm after that